| 00:00.11 | klync | oKtosiTe: then, re-mount your new / partition, and fix fstab |
| 00:00.19 | Deb0r | streuner i need to add 3rd party like raid controlers and such |
| 00:00.43 | stew | citral: do you know if it was fixed in .2.6.14? |
| 00:00.44 | *** join/#debian Isumi (n=Isumi@unaffiliated/isumi) |
| 00:00.55 | liable | Squarepants: i have an events file and powerbutton script for it. cant remember if i got it from the source package or what though. |
| 00:01.10 | oKtosiTe | klync: ok. I will give that a try tomorrow. |
| 00:01.16 | Cope | How can I go about (multiply) mounting a subdirectory? ie making /data available within a chrooted home directory? |
| 00:01.25 | stew | citral: actually it looks like it was, comparing a few machines here |
| 00:01.27 | streuner | Deb0r: get the vanila source, read /msg dpkg kp and use a .config out of debian kernels |
| 00:01.36 | *** part/#debian StevenR (n=foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 00:01.48 | stew | Cope: mount -bind /data /chroot/data |
| 00:02.00 | streuner | Deb0r: before you do that just /msg dpkg di too |
| 00:02.02 | citral | stew: iirc, it's just a matter of initrd upgrade |
| 00:02.09 | BucWheat | any other ideas on why my box can't get out on the web? |
| 00:02.28 | stew | citral: i just wanted to make sure someone knows and is fixing / has fixed it |
| 00:02.32 | streuner | Deb0r: you might be able to find an installer there |
| 00:02.44 | Deb0r | ok |
| 00:03.04 | Deb0r | whats the difference between apt-get kernel and custom? |
| 00:03.05 | *** join/#debian corp-mule (n=corp-mul@pool-71-96-95-85.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:03.11 | citral | stew: I reported the bug, they moved it away saying it will be fixed in the next release iirc |
| 00:03.11 | Squarepants | liable> you can give it to me via pastebin :) |
| 00:03.25 | *** join/#debian sparr (i=sparr@pdpc/supporter/active/sparr) |
| 00:03.28 | *** join/#debian rr72 (n=rr72@about/cooking/nakedchef/desserts/rr72) |
| 00:03.37 | BucWheat | i've checked out dhcpd.conf and dhclient.conf all look well |
| 00:03.40 | rr72 | could i get a .deb for a kernel image? |
| 00:03.43 | streuner | Deb0r: uhm, apt-get install kernel-image is a pre-compilied kernel as deb |
| 00:03.45 | *** part/#debian gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host86-137-238-58.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 00:03.47 | Cope | stew: ace thanks... and I guess if I want this to be always there... pop it in a .bash_profile? or in a start-up script? |
| 00:04.18 | Deb0r | ok and can i choose wether or not to add suport for a kind of thing |
| 00:04.20 | streuner | Deb0r: custom kernel is kernel which you make by your own |
| 00:04.22 | stew | Cope: man fstab |
| 00:04.23 | Deb0r | like raid controllers |
| 00:04.31 | *** join/#debian panthera (n=panthera@debian-unofficial.org) |
| 00:04.32 | Deb0r | ok |
| 00:04.37 | stew | rr72: what version of debian are you running? |
| 00:04.44 | streuner | Deb0r: did you use linux26 in d-i as well? |
| 00:04.47 | rr72 | sarge |
| 00:04.56 | rr72 | i can't get the latest kernel |
| 00:05.04 | stew | rr72: what does uname -r say? |
| 00:05.13 | rr72 | 2.6.8 |
| 00:05.17 | liable | Squarepants: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1057 |
| 00:05.21 | Cope | stew: there's an /etc/fstab entry that allows all /home directories to have mounted subdirectories? without listing all 175 users? |
| 00:05.22 | stew | rr72: you compiled your own? |
| 00:05.28 | Deb0r | streuner no originial is 2.4 and i downloaded 2.6.14 from kernel.org |
| 00:05.30 | dijital1 | yep |
| 00:05.32 | rr72 | i think i apt-get that one |
| 00:05.35 | rr72 | don't remember |
| 00:05.47 | Deb0r | streuner i am on shell btw so can't use X system |
| 00:05.56 | streuner | Deb0r: and you are sure that's the only kernel which support your hardware? |
| 00:05.59 | stew | rr72: nope, if you had gotten it via apt-get it would have a debian revision. it would be named something like 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 00:06.06 | *** part/#debian BucWheat (n=user@adsl-66-138-232-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 00:06.16 | Squarepants | liable> thanks, where do i save it? |
| 00:06.22 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (n=valdyn@ppp-62-245-210-129.mnet-online.de) |
| 00:06.22 | rr72 | i didnt say the whole thing |
| 00:06.28 | rr72 | just the first part i know |
| 00:06.31 | rr72 | ill check |
| 00:06.42 | stew | rr72: you have the latest then |
| 00:06.43 | Deb0r | well 2.6 does |
| 00:06.45 | *** join/#debian spdf (n=mark@CPE001217c330cb-CM0011ae92b2aa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 00:06.48 | rr72 | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 00:06.51 | Deb0r | streuner: well 2.6 does |
| 00:06.52 | stew | rr72: that is the latest |
| 00:06.55 | rr72 | i need .14 |
| 00:07.03 | rr72 | for a module to work |
| 00:07.10 | *** join/#debian astronut (n=astronut@sfnc-162-39-87-224.sandhills.us) |
| 00:07.13 | rr72 | im not talking about debian latest |
| 00:07.14 | Squarepants | liable> is it for laptops only? |
| 00:07.21 | *** join/#debian ptlis (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 00:07.21 | rr72 | im talking kernel latest |
| 00:07.22 | streuner | Deb0r: well, just try 'linux26' in d-i as well |
| 00:07.29 | liable | Squarepants: /etc/acpi/events /etc/acpi/powerbtn.sh (as they both say) |
| 00:07.32 | Deb0r | in d-i ? |
| 00:07.36 | streuner | !d-i |
| 00:07.36 | dpkg | i heard d-i is you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 00:07.39 | stew | rr72: get it from kernel.org and /msg dpkg kp |
| 00:07.43 | streuner | (debian-installer) |
| 00:07.49 | Deb0r | oh |
| 00:07.52 | liable | Squarepants: no, as long as you have acpi running, should work fine. |
| 00:07.54 | rr72 | im dl it right now |
| 00:08.15 | streuner | !tell Deb0r about ig |
| 00:08.47 | Deb0r | streuner everything is already installed mate |
| 00:08.53 | Deb0r | just need to upgrade kernel |
| 00:08.55 | Deb0r | :P |
| 00:09.17 | streuner | Deb0r: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 00:09.34 | thingfish | gosh I used to hang out in #fedora, and I still love some of those folks, but it just hurts my head anymore. |
| 00:09.46 | liable | Squarepants: you will need to make the script +x ans also restart acpid |
| 00:09.52 | Deb0r | yeah thks |
| 00:10.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 750] by debhelper |
| 00:10.58 | streuner | Deb0r: it would be pretty useless to help as long as we don't know what hardware you have... :-) |
| 00:11.20 | streuner | Deb0r: why can't you use X at all? |
| 00:11.29 | Deb0r | box is miles away |
| 00:11.30 | Deb0r | :) |
| 00:11.34 | streuner | Deb0r: oh |
| 00:11.39 | Deb0r | http://www.ebuyer.com/customer/products/index.html?action=c2hvd19wcm9kdWN0X292ZXJ2aWV3&product_uid=74699 |
| 00:11.42 | Deb0r | thats the mb |
| 00:12.33 | streuner | oh SATA, that wouldn't work in debian out of the box... |
| 00:12.58 | Deb0r | what do you mean |
| 00:13.23 | Deb0r | i am logged in now on 2.4 kernel all works great |
| 00:13.25 | streuner | you should read ig about |
| 00:13.36 | Squarepants | thats ok, i installed them from my cd |
| 00:13.36 | *** join/#debian gdub (n=gdub@S010600121716f3cb.no.shawcable.net) |
| 00:13.42 | Squarepants | just didnt know they existed :) |
| 00:13.44 | *** join/#debian houstont_tx (i=root@ppp-70-246-29-83.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 00:14.17 | *** part/#debian klync (n=klync@gentoo/user/klync) |
| 00:15.17 | *** part/#debian MrPrimate (n=MrPrimat@c-67-161-123-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:15.17 | Deb0r | can we talk in private streuner? |
| 00:15.38 | streuner | Deb0r: its late here... |
| 00:16.01 | Deb0r | oh ok |
| 00:16.06 | *** join/#debian jordo23 (n=jordo23@CPE-70-94-14-165.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 00:16.39 | streuner | just keep the convo here, there are a lot of people who can help you |
| 00:16.58 | Deb0r | ok |
| 00:17.00 | Deb0r | just did apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 build-essential |
| 00:17.18 | thingfish | plus some of us have intimacy issues. |
| 00:17.31 | *** join/#debian maebmij (n=jim@climie.ics.mq.edu.au) |
| 00:18.40 | *** part/#debian mrj_away (n=mjohnson@pool-71-111-207-9.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 00:18.49 | maebmij | Hi guys, is there a way to use recursive diff to tell me which files in two directories differ without detailing their contents - as in a summary of changed files? |
| 00:19.06 | ratonn | argh, at boot debian complains about /dev/md0 and says superblock is corrupt |
| 00:19.10 | ratonn | what do i do? |
| 00:19.51 | thingfish | anakhori? I wonder what that means. |
| 00:20.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 740] by debhelper |
| 00:20.20 | thingfish | "leaving" maybe. |
| 00:20.36 | *** join/#debian Kovecses (i=ray@c-24-61-224-70.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 00:20.50 | Kovecses | anyone know how i can install clearlooks |
| 00:20.52 | Kovecses | ? |
| 00:20.56 | *** join/#debian wd (n=namc@201.154.128.215) |
| 00:21.09 | thingfish | Kovecses: apt-get install gtk2-engines-clearlooks |
| 00:21.16 | Kovecses | thank you |
| 00:21.21 | thingfish | :) |
| 00:21.28 | thingfish | sarge? |
| 00:21.44 | Kovecses | yup |
| 00:21.49 | Kovecses | it worked |
| 00:21.51 | Kovecses | thanks |
| 00:22.02 | thingfish | the clearlooks theme in sarge seems incomplete, to me. |
| 00:22.07 | Kovecses | reallyu |
| 00:22.16 | Kovecses | what theme do you use? |
| 00:22.25 | *** join/#debian Adeene (n=Adeene@200.106.75.190) |
| 00:22.34 | *** part/#debian Adeene (n=Adeene@200.106.75.190) |
| 00:22.42 | *** join/#debian bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) |
| 00:22.45 | thingfish | I don't get proper window borders unless I also have the unpacked Clearlooks tar.gz theme also installed. |
| 00:22.53 | thingfish | I use Clearlooks. |
| 00:23.07 | *** join/#debian xarx (n=xarx@240.Red-83-41-126.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:24.23 | *** join/#debian Khiraly (n=lama@82-131-175-205.vnet.hu) |
| 00:24.27 | Khiraly | !dpkg info udev |
| 00:24.40 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ and hotplug management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.074-1 (sid), Packaged size: 293 kB, Installed size: 980 kB |
| 00:24.41 | *** join/#debian dewey (n=dewey@c-67-168-51-149.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 00:24.52 | Khiraly | !dpkg help udev |
| 00:25.01 | thingfish | you know, I've been using Debian for about 6 months now, and every day, I'm just impressed by its quality. |
| 00:25.14 | Khiraly | !talk khiraly ude |
| 00:25.14 | Khiraly | !talk khiraly udev |
| 00:25.25 | Khiraly | hmm |
| 00:25.26 | streuner | Khiraly: /msg dpkg foo |
| 00:25.45 | Khiraly | there is a good info about udev in dpkg ircbot |
| 00:25.53 | Khiraly | just dont know the exact command |
| 00:25.55 | azeem | Khiraly: /msg it anyway |
| 00:26.33 | Khiraly | what is the name of the new (gnome 2.12) menu editor? |
| 00:26.54 | azeem | smeg, I think |
| 00:27.03 | azeem | or maybe there was another one |
| 00:27.04 | Khiraly | yes, thats it |
| 00:27.04 | gravity | That is an awful name |
| 00:27.08 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@71.224.97.190) |
| 00:27.11 | thingfish | hehe yes it is |
| 00:27.17 | azeem | "simple menu editor for gnome" |
| 00:27.20 | thingfish | it's awful close to smegma |
| 00:27.26 | gravity | Still pretty awful |
| 00:27.27 | azeem | the guy obviously had no sense of style |
| 00:27.32 | Khiraly | is it in the debian sid already? |
| 00:27.36 | gravity | Not yet |
| 00:27.37 | Khiraly | I try experimental |
| 00:27.42 | gravity | Not there either, iirc |
| 00:27.46 | gravity | It's ITP'd. |
| 00:27.59 | *** join/#debian ciaron (n=soth@cpc2-broo4-4-0-cust90.renf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 00:28.00 | azeem | Khiraly: check packages.debian.org/smeg |
| 00:28.22 | thingfish | !dict smegma |
| 00:28.24 | dpkg | could not find definition for smegma |
| 00:28.26 | azeem | haha |
| 00:28.27 | azeem | Smeg is an editor for the freedesktop.org menu specification. |
| 00:28.29 | ecobit | anyone know what package mailcap belongs to? |
| 00:28.30 | azeem | How to report bugs |
| 00:28.42 | azeem | Bugs should be posted as a new thread in the UbuntuForums Menu Editor subforum. (http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=67) |
| 00:29.02 | abrotman | !tell ecobit about search |
| 00:29.03 | thingfish | ? |
| 00:29.19 | ecobit | abrotman: not there |
| 00:29.25 | azeem | ecobit: it's auto-generated |
| 00:29.29 | thingfish | I think they're putting psychoactive chemicals in my bourbon... |
| 00:29.32 | *** join/#debian cappicard (n=cappicar@CPE-72-129-239-219.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:29.37 | azeem | # Much of this file is generated automatically by the program "update-mime". |
| 00:29.37 | azeem | # Please see the "update-mime" man page for more information. |
| 00:29.40 | ecobit | azeem: from what? where? wherefore? whence? |
| 00:29.43 | azeem | whoa, didn't get kicked |
| 00:29.53 | ecobit | oh |
| 00:29.55 | ecobit | danke |
| 00:30.08 | Khiraly | hmm |
| 00:30.32 | *** join/#debian Fizzz (i=Fizzz@p548FE9A0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:30.34 | ecobit | next question is why my ~/.mailcap seems to be ignored in favor of /etc/mailcap |
| 00:30.40 | Khiraly | there is not s |
| 00:30.55 | Khiraly | there is not smeg for debian yet. |
| 00:31.03 | *** part/#debian Fizzz (i=Fizzz@p548FE9A0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:31.04 | *** join/#debian Mariele (n=Mariele@ool-45754ac5.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 00:31.06 | *** join/#debian Disputin (n=sean@dsl093-040-143.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 00:31.17 | *** join/#debian Netwolf (n=bdelbono@proxy.open-systems.org) |
| 00:32.26 | Khiraly | hmm smeg has a new name: alacarta |
| 00:34.30 | *** part/#debian WildPenguin (n=The@250.160.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 00:34.34 | rr72 | where can i dl kernel-image for sid? w/o apt-get? |
| 00:34.42 | remyforbes777 | how do you apt-get a kernel source |
| 00:35.04 | rr72 | tahts easy |
| 00:35.09 | rr72 | dinner |
| 00:35.18 | remyforbes777 | ikeep trying to apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12.tar..... |
| 00:35.33 | remyforbes777 | but it can't find the package |
| 00:36.09 | rr72 | use apt-cache search linux-source |
| 00:36.15 | rr72 | than find what you want |
| 00:36.19 | rr72 | and apt-get install |
| 00:36.28 | remyforbes777 | rr72; thanks |
| 00:36.29 | beardy | Don't guess package names, find out. |
| 00:37.21 | abrotman | rr72: packages.debian.org |
| 00:37.34 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 00:37.42 | rr72 | told him |
| 00:37.47 | rr72 | im searching google |
| 00:37.50 | abrotman | and packages for debian aren't tar |
| 00:37.53 | *** part/#debian apt-cache (n=apt@203-166-252-44.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 00:37.59 | abrotman | rr72: packages.debian.org |
| 00:38.11 | rr72 | debian.org doesnt have kernel-image-2.6.14 |
| 00:38.20 | rr72 | i want a .deb |
| 00:38.32 | abrotman | linux-image ? |
| 00:38.42 | rr72 | huh? |
| 00:38.56 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: thanks getting it now |
| 00:39.03 | abrotman | they aren't called kernel-image anymore |
| 00:39.07 | *** join/#debian Blissex (i=pcg@82-69-39-138.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) |
| 00:39.13 | abrotman | rr72: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 00:39.14 | rr72 | kk thx |
| 00:39.19 | abrotman | sleep ? |
| 00:39.24 | abrotman | it's like .. 730 |
| 00:39.32 | wireddd | 740 |
| 00:39.38 | rr72 | 6:40 |
| 00:39.43 | abrotman | you're slow |
| 00:39.48 | thingfish | 6:40 |
| 00:40.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 730] by debhelper |
| 00:40.09 | *** join/#debian dut (n=dut@213.80.144.57) |
| 00:40.44 | Tortel | !time |
| 00:40.45 | dpkg | i heard time is found on http://www.time.com/, or Tue Nov 8 00:40:45 2005 UTC, or an illusion, and lunchtime doubly so - Ford Prefect said that. |
| 00:41.24 | remyforbes777 | if I install the linux source using apt-get , do I still have to compile it |
| 00:41.37 | abrotman | remyforbes777: yes .. if you install linux-image .. you don't |
| 00:41.40 | thingfish | no |
| 00:41.47 | abrotman | remyforbes777: why are you trying to compile your kernel ? |
| 00:41.57 | thingfish | you have to unpack it, and then you can compile it. |
| 00:42.03 | *** join/#debian lexiyntax (n=dmarkle@66.59.122.254) |
| 00:42.10 | remyforbes777 | i have 2.4.x.x kernel image |
| 00:42.20 | abrotman | remyforbes777: i told you how to fix that .. hours ago |
| 00:42.29 | Tortel | if I use the makefile, will it install it? |
| 00:42.29 | abrotman | remyforbes777: what CPU do you have ? |
| 00:42.44 | remyforbes777 | amd 64 turion |
| 00:42.48 | thingfish | Tortel: use make-kpkg. It's easy. |
| 00:43.00 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-amd64-k8 |
| 00:43.28 | thingfish | although I refuse (anymore) to use non-Debian-provided kernels. |
| 00:43.30 | remyforbes777 | ok, i will try that again, it didnt work last time, couldnt find package, |
| 00:43.39 | abrotman | remyforbes777: did you show anyone your ssources ? |
| 00:43.44 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:43.44 | dpkg | from memory, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 00:43.46 | remyforbes777 | i did tweak my repositories |
| 00:43.46 | *** join/#debian tcsetattr (i=pacman@dialup-4.252.237.250.Dial1.Cincinnati1.Level3.net) |
| 00:43.50 | remyforbes777 | so I will try again |
| 00:43.58 | abrotman | remyforbes777: show us your sources |
| 00:44.20 | thingfish | !bourbon |
| 00:44.20 | dpkg | bourbon is probably THE SHIT.. Damn, it's THe drink ;-) |
| 00:44.27 | thingfish | ooh! |
| 00:44.34 | thingfish | I agree. |
| 00:44.44 | remyforbes777 | ok hold on for a sec |
| 00:45.22 | abrotman | !tequila |
| 00:45.22 | dpkg | tequila bring pain! |
| 00:45.26 | abrotman | dpkg: you lie! |
| 00:45.27 | dpkg | I most certainly do not! |
| 00:45.27 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:45.39 | abrotman | mmm .. mez-cal |
| 00:45.48 | remyforbes777 | they are on my other machine, i have to type all of them in |
| 00:45.51 | remyforbes777 | gonna take a while |
| 00:45.51 | afabian | !whiskey |
| 00:45.51 | dpkg | Whiskey is from ireland! Whisky is crap! |
| 00:46.01 | abrotman | heh |
| 00:46.31 | abrotman | remyforbes777: ssh into your debian box |
| 00:46.31 | thingfish | well, not totally, I mean irish whiskey is not all that bad. |
| 00:46.38 | abrotman | that's what they're saying .. whiskey is from ireland .. whisky is from kentucky |
| 00:46.50 | thingfish | but the real stuff is either scotch (aack, I hate it) or bourbon (me likey). |
| 00:47.01 | thingfish | yessir, abrotman. |
| 00:47.12 | relaxed | bourbon is from Kentucky |
| 00:47.18 | thingfish | yep |
| 00:47.29 | relaxed | I live there and love it :P |
| 00:47.33 | *** join/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 00:47.35 | stew | Whisky is from scotland and everything else is Whiskey |
| 00:47.40 | abrotman | though .. JD is named whiskey |
| 00:47.53 | stew | abrotman: JD isn't from kentucky |
| 00:47.54 | abrotman | stew: oh .. i had it backwards? |
| 00:47.56 | thingfish | tsk JD is tennessee 80 proof trash |
| 00:47.58 | *** part/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 00:48.04 | relaxed | indeed |
| 00:48.07 | abrotman | stew: whereever it's from .. i drink it .. i don't buy it :) |
| 00:48.18 | Guerin | you can't be a bourbon aficionado |
| 00:48.29 | Guerin | it's all lolly water |
| 00:48.33 | thingfish | aack |
| 00:48.57 | relaxed | the best imo is Woodford Reserve and Jefferson Reserve |
| 00:49.08 | thingfish | well I drink evan williams black label for everyday, but maker's mark or knob creek if I have extra cash. |
| 00:49.27 | Guerin | basil hayden++ |
| 00:49.35 | thingfish | those sound interesting, relaxed. |
| 00:49.43 | stew | relaxed: woodford reserve was excellent when it first came out, becuase it wasn't actually woodford reseve (theirs was still in barrels) it was in fact the best of the old forester kegs |
| 00:50.03 | stew | though woodford is improving now that they are getting the kinks worked out |
| 00:50.04 | *** join/#debian panthera (n=daniel@panthera-systems.net) |
| 00:50.11 | relaxed | stew: have you tried Jefferson ? |
| 00:50.15 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: i dont have ssh set up |
| 00:50.19 | stew | relaxed: not yet |
| 00:50.31 | thingfish | I want to move to kentucky and go to work for some small batch producer. |
| 00:50.31 | litage | quick question: http://rafb.net/paste/results/GsShYA55.html |
| 00:50.36 | relaxed | stew: it's great, I promise :) |
| 00:50.42 | tcsetattr | well this certainly sucks...Error reading block 10190849 (Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read) while reading inode and block bitmaps. Ignore error<y>? yes |
| 00:50.44 | *** join/#debian KurtKraut (n=ktk@space.sbyte.org) |
| 00:50.48 | stew | relaxed: i'll try it when i go visit the inlaws for christmas this year |
| 00:50.56 | stew | the inlaws are in louisville |
| 00:51.02 | *** join/#debian netcatc (n=netcatc@BHE015245.corp.wayinternet.com.br) |
| 00:51.12 | thingfish | louisville is a killer city, I could easily live there. |
| 00:51.16 | stew | ahh |
| 00:51.34 | stew | yeah me too, i was very happily suprised the first time i went |
| 00:51.37 | *** join/#debian samuel (n=samuel@201.138.58.105) |
| 00:51.37 | thingfish | I went to grad school about an hour west of louisville. |
| 00:51.48 | stew | though my wife grew up there and doesn't wish to ever return long term |
| 00:51.51 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:52.20 | abrotman | remyforbes777: oh ok |
| 00:52.26 | *** join/#debian guru_ (n=joe@pdpc/supporter/active/guru) |
| 00:52.41 | relaxed | all this talk about bourbon has made me thirsty |
| 00:52.53 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:52.57 | *** join/#debian zerotrace (n=zerotrac@athena.rh.rit.edu) |
| 00:53.08 | stew | i had a bunch of basil haden on friday, which is probably my favorite these days |
| 00:53.22 | relaxed | yeah, that's good stuff |
| 00:53.28 | Tortel | !food |
| 00:53.28 | dpkg | it has been said that food is "any substance that can be metabolized by an organism to give energy and build tissue," according to WordNet 2.0. Electricity for humans. |
| 00:53.32 | thingfish | wow, I need to educate myself. |
| 00:53.55 | relaxed | stew: ever had Rare Breed ? |
| 00:53.55 | KurtKraut | After I've installed NVIDIA driver I can't start X. What should I do ? |
| 00:54.09 | litage | KurtKraut: check the logs |
| 00:54.50 | remyforbes777 | deb: http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian testing main , deb-src http;//mirors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main, deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main, deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main, deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian unstable main contrib non-free, deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian testing main contrib non-free, deb http://security.debian.org/ sarge/updates main, deb ftp:/ftp.nerim.net/debian-maril |
| 00:54.50 | remyforbes777 | lat/ sid main, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 00:54.51 | *** join/#debian CrocoJet (n=Crocodil@cm-net-poa-C8B0168E.dynamic.brdterra.com.br) |
| 00:55.00 | *** join/#debian umeboshi (n=umeboshi@pcp01317214pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) |
| 00:55.01 | KurtKraut | litage, where are they ? |
| 00:55.16 | stew | relaxed: yes, a couple of months ago, but i don't remember who makes it |
| 00:55.22 | stew | relaxed: i remember it being good though |
| 00:56.03 | relaxed | There's a Makers Mark bar in downtown Louisville that has over 50 different bourbons. For $60 they have bourbons tasting (kinda like wine tasting) |
| 00:56.13 | thingfish | wow sweet |
| 00:56.32 | thingfish | it's just a cool thing that we americans do. |
| 00:56.40 | relaxed | just don't drive that night. |
| 00:56.45 | thingfish | hehehe |
| 00:57.00 | thingfish | no doubt |
| 00:57.02 | stew | relaxed: yeah, i went there, but the crowd there (and in 4th street live in general) was practically untollerable |
| 00:57.08 | thingfish | snobby? |
| 00:57.14 | thingfish | or just low class. |
| 00:57.22 | relaxed | college kids |
| 00:57.22 | Phated | Heh, both ends of the spectrum? :) |
| 00:57.22 | stew | snobby low class or something |
| 00:57.31 | zerotrace | hey... somebody's gotta fill in for new orleans |
| 00:57.34 | thingfish | college kids? aack. |
| 00:57.52 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-208-221.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 00:57.54 | litage | kurtkraut: most logs are found in /var/log/ |
| 00:58.06 | remyforbes777 | did you get that abrot |
| 00:58.17 | Phated | thingfish: Y'know, I'm technically college-aged. |
| 00:58.29 | CrocoJet | anyone knows if possible to remove KDE in debian 3.1a sarge ? Only use gnome here |
| 00:58.30 | zerotrace | as am i |
| 00:58.53 | *** join/#debian alexscott (n=alexscot@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 00:59.22 | remyforbes777 | you get that abrotman |
| 00:59.29 | wireddd | CrocoJet, yeah it is but do you use any kde applications? |
| 00:59.35 | abrotman | get what? |
| 00:59.39 | abrotman | where did you put it ? |
| 00:59.40 | remyforbes777 | my sources |
| 00:59.41 | *** join/#debian michal_ (n=michal@dsl-58-6-123-9.qld.westnet.com.au) |
| 00:59.43 | gothtec | Any simple tips that could make mozilla-thunderbird use less memory? |
| 00:59.46 | relaxed | stew: wild turkey makes it |
| 00:59.50 | remyforbes777 | scroll what |
| 01:00.09 | abrotman | remedy: ah ok |
| 01:00.12 | remyforbes777 | up |
| 01:00.14 | abrotman | remyforbes777: erm .. ok |
| 01:00.19 | CrocoJet | wireddd, no use KDE here |
| 01:00.29 | michal_ | anyone here have any experience with lprng? |
| 01:00.31 | remyforbes777 | sorry , i meant scroll up |
| 01:00.43 | abrotman | remyforbes777: anyways .. apt-get update;apt-cache search linux-image k8;apt-get install <theoneyouwant> |
| 01:00.45 | michal_ | lpq is taking eternity to display it's resultts |
| 01:00.52 | michal_ | i tried running it with time and got this |
| 01:00.58 | abrotman | err apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 01:01.07 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: gotcha |
| 01:01.10 | *** join/#debian horchata (n=carson@dhcp-1-86.media.mit.edu) |
| 01:01.16 | *** join/#debian green-mouse (n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-245.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 01:01.22 | michal_ | real 6m9.073s, user 0m0.001s, sys 0m0.002s |
| 01:01.22 | eeyore- | michal_: switched to cups a long time ago when lprng was being a pain in the ass |
| 01:01.24 | relaxed | stew: they also have tastings at Z's Oyster Bar. that might be a beeter fit for you. |
| 01:01.27 | michal_ | this is on sarge |
| 01:01.59 | *** part/#debian zerotrace (n=zerotrac@athena.rh.rit.edu) |
| 01:02.08 | eeyore- | michal_: from that output, lprng was waiting on some real physical event to occur, maybe some signals from the printer |
| 01:02.09 | thingfish | but oysters and bourbon? |
| 01:02.14 | thingfish | no way. |
| 01:02.22 | thingfish | oysters and gin, yes. |
| 01:02.22 | horchata | I wonder if someone could help be troubleshoot grub. when my system boots after a fresh install "GRUB GRUB ..." repeats endlessly |
| 01:02.35 | abrotman | badger badger? |
| 01:02.49 | Phated | Heh. |
| 01:02.51 | eeyore- | horchata: it can't find stage1 or stage2 loader .. something along that line. re-install it |
| 01:02.52 | Tortel | !badger |
| 01:02.52 | thingfish | oysters and badgers? when in season. |
| 01:02.58 | stew | i like oysters with anything, bourbon with anything, and gin with anything |
| 01:03.00 | michal_ | eeyore: and this would stop lpq from returning? i would havee though that it could return queue information regadless of the communication betweeen the printer and the lprng daemon :/ |
| 01:03.33 | horchata | eeyore-: re-install grub on to not-MBR? |
| 01:03.36 | thingfish | ooh stew is number one good amellican |
| 01:03.48 | eeyore- | michal_: i'm just saying that lpq was waiting for something else to happen :-) it spent very little CPU in user/kernel, so it's obviously waiting, and not executing |
| 01:04.03 | *** join/#debian xzgv (n=none@201.226.179.58) |
| 01:04.06 | eeyore- | horchata: re-install grub onto MBR, with proper "root" and "setup(...)" |
| 01:04.10 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: no k8 only k7 |
| 01:04.12 | michal_ | eeyore: yeah it's sittin on a read.. justt not sure whatt it's acctually waiting for |
| 01:04.20 | eeyore- | horchata: e.g., root (...), find /...., setup( ... ) |
| 01:04.24 | *** join/#debian stephelton (n=stephen@c-67-187-109-164.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 01:04.29 | stephelton | anyone used a tablet in linux? |
| 01:04.30 | eeyore- | michal_: strace it and find out? |
| 01:04.31 | thingfish | see, Debian people just know their shit about *everything*! |
| 01:04.40 | *** join/#debian caravena (n=caravena@200.72.196.39) |
| 01:04.51 | abrotman | remyforbes777: you ran apt-get update first ? |
| 01:04.56 | thingfish | not like in fedora, where they settle for domestic caviar. |
| 01:05.20 | michal_ | eeyore: i'm not too goood att interprrettingg the results.. last file it opens beefore the prroblem is /var/run/lprng/socket |
| 01:05.24 | stew | relaxed: there was some excellent place i went to taste wine, somehwere on 42. it had 50 or so varieties of win ON TAP! yes, they had wine taps, that were actually done well |
| 01:05.26 | remyforbes777 | ahhh nope, doing it now |
| 01:05.32 | thingfish | and so-called california "champagne". |
| 01:05.39 | eeyore- | michal_: would it be too much to suggest ditching lprng? |
| 01:05.42 | abrotman | sward: it comes out of everyone's butt ? |
| 01:06.11 | thingfish | sward: all I know is, the drunker I get, the more I know. |
| 01:06.13 | michal_ | eeyore: we've already ditched cups iin favvour of lprng once.. there is some distrust of cups here |
| 01:06.17 | sward | Some peoples' mouths too, but we'll ignore that |
| 01:06.23 | Tortel | !work |
| 01:06.23 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, work is a great place to play network games like Quake against your friends..... an improper way of saying funzionirt! Work at what? Do the dishes? Clean your room?, or see play =-) |
| 01:06.34 | *** join/#debian madradrone (n=madradro@adsl-71-140-56-241.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 01:06.34 | thingfish | !beer stew |
| 01:06.46 | Tortel | !smite Tortel |
| 01:06.47 | madradrone | what is ratpoison? it look like screen |
| 01:06.47 | stew | i wish |
| 01:06.49 | thingfish | give him a double, in fact. |
| 01:07.05 | Tortel | !smite dpkg |
| 01:07.10 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 01:07.10 | Tortel | HA! |
| 01:07.13 | Tortel | I WIN! |
| 01:07.16 | Skrotto | Hi. Do I need to (re)format my disks in order to use LVM? |
| 01:07.21 | thingfish | no no, dpkg is innocent and must not be abused. |
| 01:07.22 | azeem | ... |
| 01:07.22 | *** join/#debian werw (n=asdf@200.9.237.254) |
| 01:07.38 | eeyore- | michal_: going from cups to lprng would (imho) appear to be a downgrade. but, whatever :-) sorry. i haven't touched lprng in several years. |
| 01:07.38 | remyforbes777 | still no k8 |
| 01:07.38 | thingfish | it's just electrons, just magnetic charge... |
| 01:07.40 | stew | !abuse dpkg |
| 01:07.46 | sward | madradrone: ratpoison is a window manager that manages windows, as opposed to some other "window managers" |
| 01:07.46 | thingfish | tsk |
| 01:08.03 | sward | madradrone: I'd have to say I prefer wmii though |
| 01:08.07 | thingfish | if you'd abuse dpkg, you'd abuse a woman. or a cat. |
| 01:08.20 | abrotman | ratpoison is mostly useless for a newbie |
| 01:08.22 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@200.103.139.116) |
| 01:08.24 | stew | !abuse a cat |
| 01:08.29 | thingfish | for shame. |
| 01:08.38 | *** join/#debian N3RD (n=N3RD@user-0c9h5dl.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 01:08.46 | madradrone | sward: i saw the screenshots of it on their site. it has not even window frames or anything. so it is almost like screen i think |
| 01:08.57 | sward | yep |
| 01:09.31 | thingfish | and you know who you are! |
| 01:09.35 | sward | madradrone: It's easier to tile windows though, screen has only a horizontal split |
| 01:09.57 | liable | grrr, aircon waits till the hottest part of the day, and dies.. |
| 01:10.31 | sward | and works for (ICCCM-adhering) graphical apps |
| 01:10.32 | abrotman | liable: what .. it was 60F today :) |
| 01:10.49 | thingfish | it's 66F here now, and the sun's even gone down. |
| 01:10.56 | *** join/#debian Kovecses (i=ray@c-24-61-224-70.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 01:11.15 | Kovecses | how do i list how many processors i am using? from the term |
| 01:11.17 | liable | abrotman: about 100 here (37-9C) |
| 01:11.29 | abrotman | liable: in siberia ? |
| 01:11.39 | liable | hah, might as well be. |
| 01:11.51 | stew | Kovecses: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:11.52 | abrotman | liable: you're .au? |
| 01:11.54 | thingfish | ooh liable, put on your swimming trunks and hit the pool! |
| 01:11.57 | *** join/#debian TraceGreen (n=Trace@221.219.39.137) |
| 01:11.58 | Kovecses | stew, thanks |
| 01:12.00 | liable | abrotman: yeah |
| 01:12.20 | XOrg666 | How do I put my city in gnome weather report applet? |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#debian Jacky (n=boymice@218.82.81.102) |
| 01:12.21 | *** join/#debian catlee (i=[Y7pUe0U@metis.scs.ryerson.ca) |
| 01:12.23 | Kluster_v2 | fahrenheit isn't a good scale.. some idiot thought of putting the 0 as the stable temperature of equal amounts of salt, water and ice... then 96 for the 'normal' human temperature |
| 01:12.41 | thingfish | liable needs a cold beverage...I recommend a reynold's special. |
| 01:12.42 | azeem | XOrg666: I don't think you can |
| 01:13.10 | catlee | Ok, stupid question: has anybody come up with a good way to maintain a set of user configuration data across a set of machines? I hate having to set up my .zshrc / .vimrc / etc. everytime I'm on a new machine. |
| 01:13.11 | liable | hmm, yeah, beer sounds good, but i will have to wait. |
| 01:13.25 | *** join/#debian dojob (n=Airc_rea@152.Red-83-49-253.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:13.36 | azeem | catlee: well, there is cvs/svn/etc. |
| 01:13.38 | thingfish | yes, nothing before 17:00. |
| 01:14.10 | XOrg666 | So. It seems that i have to wait util they put it for me. Is it right? |
| 01:14.15 | liable | wow, thats actually when i do crack one :) |
| 01:14.17 | azeem | probably, yeah |
| 01:14.20 | catlee | azeem: yeah, svn would be nice...except I'd need somewhere to host the repo |
| 01:14.22 | *** join/#debian gravity (n=david@pool-151-199-55-225.bos.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:14.25 | Deb0r | anyone have Asus NCCH-DL ? |
| 01:14.32 | thingfish | well me too, and half the rest of the world, liable! |
| 01:14.45 | catlee | I could register a project on SF.net I guess ;) |
| 01:14.59 | thingfish | that's why 17:00-18:00 is called happy hour. |
| 01:15.04 | stew | catlee: does sf.net host svn? |
| 01:15.05 | sward | catlee: rsync |
| 01:15.22 | sward | catlee: or host the svn on one of your machines |
| 01:15.23 | thingfish | 'cause finally for that fucking day you're happy |
| 01:15.34 | michal_ | eeyore: doesn't cups support serial printers by default under sarge? ie serial is not available via the web interface |
| 01:15.35 | liable | haha |
| 01:15.46 | XOrg666 | Where can i sugest to put my city there? In the weather report applet? |
| 01:16.02 | Guerin | XOrg666: ENOCONTEXT |
| 01:16.15 | *** join/#debian agilman (n=agilman@c-67-170-178-242.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 01:16.37 | KurtKraut | I can't start my X server. Here is the following log: http://www.kurtkraut.net/XFree86.0.log - anyone could help me ? |
| 01:16.38 | XOrg666 | Is it a site? |
| 01:16.45 | *** join/#debian Hatter (n=rwh@dsl-210-15-251-109.NSW.netspace.net.au) |
| 01:17.05 | *** join/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:17.11 | SpaM | xD |
| 01:17.32 | *** join/#debian ideal (n=idealm_@222.66.46.90) |
| 01:17.50 | michal_ | eeyore: ahhh.. found itt. apparent cups serial support sucks |
| 01:18.03 | *** part/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.04 | gravity | KurtKraut: You could try not running the nvidia proprietary driver |
| 01:18.04 | XOrg666 | ENOCONTEXT is a site Guerin? |
| 01:18.07 | *** join/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.18 | gothtec | Any simple tips that could make mozilla-thunderbird use less memory? |
| 01:18.19 | SpaM | mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda |
| 01:18.24 | *** join/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.25 | abrotman | what a tard |
| 01:18.25 | gothtec | wtf |
| 01:18.26 | SpaM | mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda |
| 01:18.28 | abrotman | !ops spantiga |
| 01:18.29 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: spantiga |
| 01:18.30 | abrotman | bah |
| 01:18.31 | *** join/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.33 | abrotman | !ops spam |
| 01:18.33 | deadcat | yes i will buy mierda. |
| 01:18.34 | SpaM | mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda mierda mirda |
| 01:18.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: spam |
| 01:18.38 | *** join/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.42 | *** mode/#debian [+o dondelelcaro] by ChanServ |
| 01:18.42 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@201.135.0.228] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:18.42 | *** part/#debian SpaM (n=ircap751@201.135.0.228) |
| 01:18.42 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:18.45 | agilman | KurtKraut, you should do 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86' |
| 01:18.48 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 01:18.49 | gothtec | thanks for tossing my question out of everyone's screen, jackass. geez |
| 01:18.50 | KurtKraut | gravity, but how could I get 3D acceleration ? |
| 01:18.59 | gravity | KurtKraut: You don't, but at least your server will run |
| 01:19.00 | gothtec | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 01:19.02 | KurtKraut | agilman, I've already did it and X still crashing |
| 01:19.06 | Tortel | !ops woo, thank youuu! |
| 01:19.07 | Hatter | can someone tell me please how i change the boot priority of bootmisc.sh ? I want something inside it to run after vmware in the init.d ? |
| 01:19.07 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: woo, thank youuu! |
| 01:19.18 | KurtKraut | gravity, I need to have the accerelation ;/ |
| 01:19.29 | abrotman | gravity: i thought you went to sleep ? |
| 01:19.37 | gravity | abrotman: Did I type that? I just went home. |
| 01:19.53 | *** join/#debian m8rix|DND (i=Miranda@c80-216-178-18.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 01:19.54 | azeem | Tortel: thank you for not abusing the dpkg bot |
| 01:20.04 | liable | is that the translation? |
| 01:20.04 | abrotman | gravity: yeah |
| 01:20.07 | gothtec | Gravity should be the right person to talk to about acceleration. Har har! I'm so funny I'll... go to bed. |
| 01:20.23 | *** join/#debian jeff_ (n=jeff@ip68-100-164-115.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 01:20.23 | agilman | KurtKraut, you could try using knoppix, it generates XF86Config-4 for you |
| 01:20.29 | XOrg666 | What is ENOCONTEXT? |
| 01:20.52 | Guerin | XOrg666: it means you didn't tell us enough about your problem to recieve any help |
| 01:20.55 | azeem | XOrg666: Guerin just did not pay attention |
| 01:20.58 | *** part/#debian flammifer (n=Flammy_@166.111.249.244) |
| 01:20.59 | abrotman | agilman: that's just dumb |
| 01:21.00 | stew | Guerin: except that he did |
| 01:21.04 | KurtKraut | agilman, I've runned dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again. I will restart X again to see what happens. |
| 01:21.08 | KurtKraut | just a sec |
| 01:21.17 | Guerin | oh, that's possible too |
| 01:21.17 | *** join/#debian astrolux (n=ZEA@a83-132-111-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 01:21.18 | gravity | kurtkraut: That won't work |
| 01:21.20 | gravity | I promise you |
| 01:21.23 | Guerin | XOrg666: sorry. |
| 01:21.24 | gravity | That's not your problem |
| 01:21.26 | agilman | abrotman, why is it dumb ? |
| 01:21.26 | *** join/#debian Bosnia (n=opera@195.222.34.90) |
| 01:21.33 | gravity | Your problem is that nvidia's proprietary drivers are crashing on you |
| 01:21.35 | thingfish | why would someone come in here and say that. That's just crude. |
| 01:21.37 | abrotman | agilman: because debian generates an X config also |
| 01:21.46 | jeff_ | can someone help me out with the onboard sound on my motherboard? I have a soyo sy-p4Is2, and the system wont recognize it |
| 01:21.57 | Bosnia | hi all |
| 01:22.01 | agilman | abrotman, knoppix is a lot better at it. |
| 01:22.06 | abrotman | agilman: no it's not ... |
| 01:22.09 | michal_ | eeyore: do you have any idea if it's possible to fix the "enabled since date" message so that it dooesn't always say Jan 01 00:00 |
| 01:22.11 | agilman | abrotman, it is. |
| 01:22.12 | michal_ | ? |
| 01:22.17 | abrotman | agilman: if you're not capable of doing it .. that's your problem |
| 01:22.19 | jeff_ | i tried running /etc/alsa/modprobe-post-install.d/alsa base, and it still wouldnt recognize it |
| 01:22.39 | liable | jeff_: if theres no driver for it, then you're screwed. |
| 01:22.42 | gravity | agilman: Patches accepted |
| 01:22.46 | astrolux | has anyone attempted to install debian on a machine with RAID 0 configured with nvraid? (from the setup of the nforce chipset) my debian-installer can't detect the created partitions. instead it detects the discs seperatly |
| 01:23.07 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@ppp-62-245-211-130.mnet-online.de) |
| 01:23.10 | jeff_ | liable: guessing google would be the best way to locate said driver? |
| 01:23.18 | *** join/#debian jkomiu (n=user@219.131.242.21) |
| 01:23.39 | liable | jeff_: yes. |
| 01:23.46 | liable | jeff_: or alsa.org |
| 01:24.06 | *** part/#debian XOrg666 (n=vagner@200.97.30.85) |
| 01:24.37 | Wyzard | astrolux: Personally, I'd use ordinary Linux software RAID, not nvraid |
| 01:24.49 | jeff_ | liable: it worked on an older distro tho, which is what is pissing me off |
| 01:24.57 | stew | jeff_: what sound card is it? |
| 01:25.06 | stew | jeff_: do you know what driver the other distro used? |
| 01:25.17 | Bosnia | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:25.23 | *** join/#debian cddesjar (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 01:25.23 | liable | jeff_: with alsa or oss? if it worked then there must be a driver for it somewhere. |
| 01:25.35 | liable | Bosnia: time for a pass change eh? |
| 01:25.50 | Bosnia | hehe |
| 01:25.56 | Bosnia | it is not my pass |
| 01:25.57 | thingfish | wow, neat to name yourself after a whole country. |
| 01:26.04 | *** join/#debian Bombo_ (i=bombo@p50837B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 01:26.08 | Wyzard | astrolux: If you use nvraid, and your motherboard dies or something and you replace it, you have to worry about whether the replacement board supports nvraid, or you won't be able to access your data |
| 01:26.12 | Bosnia | i just want to see what gonna u write |
| 01:26.14 | Bosnia | ok |
| 01:26.18 | thingfish | well, I guess half of a whole country. |
| 01:26.28 | Daveman | hey thingfish |
| 01:26.37 | thingfish | hi there, mr Daveman. |
| 01:26.49 | *** part/#debian Bosnia (n=opera@195.222.34.90) |
| 01:26.52 | *** join/#debian Bosnia (n=opera@195.222.34.90) |
| 01:27.02 | Wyzard | astrolux: Use ordinary Linux RAID and your array will work on any Linux system regardless of what type of controller the drives are connected to |
| 01:27.04 | thingfish | oh man, that's the problem! I thought it was Friday. |
| 01:27.31 | *** join/#debian caravena (n=caravena@200.72.196.39) |
| 01:27.42 | jeff_ | stew: it is the onboard sound on a soyo sy-p4is2 |
| 01:27.42 | stew | Wyzard: is nvraid even hardware raid? |
| 01:27.46 | KurtKraut | agilman, I've done the reconfigure but the X server still unable to open ;/ |
| 01:27.48 | Bosnia | is this american chanel |
| 01:27.49 | Bosnia | room |
| 01:27.52 | Bosnia | ? |
| 01:27.52 | stew | jeff_: lspci will tell you what soundcard it is |
| 01:27.56 | *** join/#debian cddesjar (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 01:28.03 | dondelelcaro | Bosnia: no, it's just an english speaking one. |
| 01:28.05 | sward | jeff_: what does 'lspci |grep Multimedia' say? |
| 01:28.07 | stew | Bosnia: no, international, but english only |
| 01:28.08 | gravity | KurtKraut: Your. Proprietary. Driver. Is. Broken. |
| 01:28.12 | Bosnia | ok |
| 01:28.15 | Daveman | :p |
| 01:28.20 | stew | !gravity is also loves proprietary drivers |
| 01:28.20 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 01:28.22 | abrotman | gravity: could you clarify ? |
| 01:28.24 | Wyzard | stew: It might do the CRC calculations for RAID-5 in hardware, but everything else is done in software |
| 01:28.29 | Daveman | haha |
| 01:28.34 | thingfish | you know sblive cards are like $20 |
| 01:28.38 | *** part/#debian Bosnia (n=opera@195.222.34.90) |
| 01:28.38 | thingfish | if that even |
| 01:28.43 | jeff_ | stew: nothing |
| 01:28.45 | Daveman | yeah, less |
| 01:28.50 | Wyzard | stew: Real hardware RAID controllers cost much more than that |
| 01:28.53 | *** part/#debian astrolux (n=ZEA@a83-132-111-233.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 01:28.58 | Daveman | thingfish, try $5-10? (and that's just shipping?) ;p |
| 01:29.05 | thingfish | well for sure |
| 01:29.19 | KurtKraut | gravity, and what should I do ? Download it and install it again ? |
| 01:29.26 | stew | jeff_: lspci | egrep -i "(multimedia|audio)" |
| 01:29.31 | thingfish | it's not even worth it to put up with these so-called onboard sound solutions. |
| 01:29.41 | *** join/#debian fuso (n=bhjk@u216-2.udal.afb.lu.se) |
| 01:29.44 | jeff_ | thingfish: ? |
| 01:29.53 | abrotman | gravity: is nvidia + xorg/sid broken at the moment ? |
| 01:29.58 | gravity | !tell KurtKraut about nvidia oneliner |
| 01:30.04 | Wyzard | abrotman: I'm using it |
| 01:30.09 | gravity | !tell KurtKraut about nvidia one liner |
| 01:30.15 | *** join/#debian zuen (n=foobar@cm41.sigma201.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 01:30.17 | gravity | abrotman: Not that I know of |
| 01:30.18 | Wyzard | abrotman: and I restarted X yesterday; no problems |
| 01:30.24 | Tortel | !smite abrotman |
| 01:30.24 | jeff_ | stew: nothing..its not there, i can read lspci |
| 01:30.28 | thingfish | sorry, I'm just lazy, and would rather spend a few bucks than have to hunt down a solution for my onboard AC '97 whatever. |
| 01:30.34 | abrotman | Tortel: piss off |
| 01:30.34 | *** join/#debian id10t (n=id10t@h150.169.213.151.ip.alltel.net) |
| 01:30.47 | liable | jeff_: update-pciids |
| 01:30.48 | abrotman | Wyzard: you what ? |
| 01:30.55 | *** join/#debian trakina (i=1000@200.226.2.215) |
| 01:31.29 | Wyzard | abrotman: I restarted X, because nVidia's "RenderAccel" feature was being wonky and I wanted to turn it off, and X started just fine (with the latest nVidia driver on a sid system) |
| 01:31.38 | liable | kurtkraut: why do you keep doing that? |
| 01:31.39 | sidiot | everytime i load 2.6.14 it tells me /dev/hdc2 not found and then it puts me in to a shell...an ash shell in particular |
| 01:31.56 | *** join/#debian gothtec (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-15715.bb.online.no) |
| 01:32.10 | thingfish | liable: OSD. He needs Prozac. |
| 01:32.14 | sidiot | the kernel then stops loading |
| 01:32.15 | abrotman | Wyzard: i thought you restarted the machine |
| 01:32.22 | thingfish | sorry, OCD. |
| 01:32.25 | id10t | sidiot what is hdc2? |
| 01:32.26 | Wyzard | abrotman: Actually, scratch that -- I'm using nVidia 7676 from experimental, not 7174 from sid |
| 01:32.32 | Wyzard | abrotman: no, didn't reboot, just restarted X |
| 01:32.49 | id10t | sidiot as in, cd, hd, hd on sata, ?? |
| 01:32.49 | abrotman | heh |
| 01:33.18 | sidiot | id10t: hdc2 is my major partition |
| 01:33.34 | id10t | sidiot obviously... but what is is on? |
| 01:33.40 | sidiot | id10t: everything! |
| 01:33.48 | Daveman | heh, still here abrotman? |
| 01:33.52 | id10t | sidiot i've seen install kernels use hd? for sata drives but the running real kernel uses sd? instead |
| 01:33.59 | abrotman | Daveman: yes .. why? |
| 01:34.01 | thingfish | abrotman is always here. |
| 01:34.02 | Wyzard | sidiot: Not what data is on the partition... what controller is the drive connected to? |
| 01:34.05 | id10t | sidiot no... not data.. what kind of drive is it on? |
| 01:34.07 | abrotman | thingfish: i am not |
| 01:34.12 | thingfish | are too |
| 01:34.15 | abrotman | not |
| 01:34.18 | sidiot | id10t: urgh...how i do find out...i don't know |
| 01:34.21 | id10t | see, this is a prime example of the id10t helping the sidiot |
| 01:34.23 | thingfish | are too are too |
| 01:34.28 | sidiot | lol |
| 01:34.34 | Daveman | heh |
| 01:34.35 | id10t | sidiot is it a new computer, server, or desktop? |
| 01:34.45 | liable | kurtkraut: stop it! |
| 01:34.49 | sidiot | id10t: it's a dell inspiron 1100 laptop |
| 01:35.12 | abrotman | sidiot: it's your laptop .. |
| 01:35.14 | id10t | and how many hard drives do you have in it? |
| 01:35.17 | sidiot | yes! |
| 01:35.21 | abrotman | why would his hdd be hdc ? |
| 01:35.23 | jeff_ | liable: what does that mean |
| 01:35.29 | sidiot | id10t: one hard drive...with 3 paritions |
| 01:35.37 | abrotman | it's probably hda ? |
| 01:35.39 | liable | it updates your lspci stuff |
| 01:35.47 | id10t | sidiot then your big partition is most likely hda2, not hdc2 |
| 01:35.58 | KurtKraut | liable, sorry... my X is crashing... this causes this nick changes. |
| 01:36.00 | id10t | your cd is most likely hdc |
| 01:36.01 | sidiot | id10t: maybe |
| 01:36.09 | thingfish | oh please |
| 01:36.17 | id10t | sidiot well, unless you've gone off and really modded your laptop... |
| 01:36.22 | *** join/#debian pem3v78 (n=pem3v78@dki63.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 01:36.25 | sidiot | id10t: no according to my fstab file my cd is /dev/hda |
| 01:36.38 | sidiot | id10t: i haven't changed anything by default |
| 01:36.42 | id10t | then someone's got some cables flopped around somewhere |
| 01:36.45 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@static-67-62-27-40.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 01:36.46 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (n=K_Dallas@i216-58-48-148.cybersurf.com) |
| 01:36.52 | id10t | whats the bios on it say? |
| 01:36.55 | sidiot | id10t: 32 |
| 01:37.05 | abrotman | bios says 32 ? |
| 01:37.13 | *** join/#debian grandma (n=grandma@cpe-065-191-144-167.nc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:37.24 | pem3v78 | what is the command which starts another process and outputs on the console what the invoked process is doing ? (low level, os calls) |
| 01:37.25 | sidiot | it's the 32 bios...what ever that means |
| 01:37.26 | id10t | not speed, primary master/secondary master/slave |
| 01:37.27 | grandma | anyone here have mod_ssl apache experience? |
| 01:37.42 | sidiot | id10t: where should i look for this info. |
| 01:37.46 | abrotman | grandma: just ask |
| 01:37.48 | thingfish | oh citral, come on and join us idiots, there's bliss in ignorance. |
| 01:37.57 | sidiot | id10t: also 2.4.x works fine |
| 01:38.07 | citral | !moo |
| 01:38.07 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:38.21 | id10t | sidiot oh, in that case just change fstab and forget about it :) |
| 01:38.22 | *** join/#debian Ecnassianer (n=ecna@crown-6-251.resnet.ucsc.edu) |
| 01:38.25 | grandma | ssl.conf is configured with a virtual host, and is being loaded, apache2ctl startssl doesn't complain and loads, secure.rentfayetteville.com is setup on its OWN unique ip, connecting to (not secure) http://secure.rentfayetteville.com goes to the http:// default server...what am i missing? (debian sarge, apache 2, mod_ssl) |
| 01:38.28 | liable | sidiot: so roll back to a 2.6.13 and see what gives.. |
| 01:38.34 | thingfish | plus no one will rub up against you if you stay up there and act all superior. |
| 01:38.39 | grandma | #apache isn't helpful... |
| 01:38.48 | sidiot | id10t: should i change fstab? |
| 01:38.53 | sidiot | id10t: isn't that sketchy |
| 01:39.03 | id10t | sidiot well, if thats wehre the kernel thinks it is... |
| 01:39.05 | sidiot | liable: i don't have 2.6.13 on here |
| 01:39.17 | id10t | sidiot not at all.. just a text file. boot with install cd or knoppix or whatever |
| 01:39.18 | abrotman | grandma: name based or IP based virtual hosts ? |
| 01:39.39 | secher | Heyas all. My HD decided to go all screwy the other day, and it took about 5 minutes for fsck to make it's way through the drive correcting errors. While I've managed to reach runlevel 5 again, half of my apps won't work anymore. Is there a way for me to search through all installed packages, check for validity and reinstall if corrupted? |
| 01:39.45 | sidiot | id10t: so you think i should change all my "c" to "a" and vice versa |
| 01:40.05 | thingfish | secher: there's no way you're reinstalling onto that hard drive again. |
| 01:40.09 | id10t | sidiot yup. if dmesg says that hda is now hdc, who are you to argue? :) |
| 01:40.16 | grandma | abrotman, <VirtualHost 66.193.67.233:443> |
| 01:40.20 | Wyzard | secher: Before you do that, you should find out why the drive went "screwy"... it sounds like it's failing |
| 01:40.24 | abrotman | grandma: also .. how is the 80 defined .. as *:80 ? |
| 01:40.28 | liable | i would check bts for that kernel first... |
| 01:40.39 | sidiot | liable: me? |
| 01:40.41 | id10t | sidiot or, double check evertyhing, head over to linux-laptops.net (or whatever they are... can't remember), etc. |
| 01:40.42 | liable | yes |
| 01:40.47 | sidiot | ok |
| 01:40.51 | grandma | abrotman, i do believe i have a default on 80...which isn't really necessary |
| 01:40.52 | abrotman | or rather _default_:80 |
| 01:40.57 | thingfish | secher: your task: salvage what date you need ASAP and replace the drive. |
| 01:41.06 | thingfish | *data |
| 01:41.07 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: i have been gone for a minute, any suggestions for getting the k8 kernel |
| 01:41.18 | *** join/#debian rplong_ (n=rplong@ip68-11-39-246.no.no.cox.net) |
| 01:41.25 | abrotman | grandma: have you tried setting up a virtual host for that IP on 80 ? |
| 01:41.29 | abrotman | remyforbes777: did you apt-get update ? |
| 01:41.33 | remyforbes777 | yep |
| 01:41.36 | id10t | sidiot but just making that change worked great for me whe the fedora installer (1 thru 3 no less) had my sata disk as hda and the kernel i used (default from cd) was reporting it as sda |
| 01:41.43 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: yep |
| 01:41.48 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 k8 |
| 01:41.53 | abrotman | remyforbes777: see anything ? |
| 01:41.54 | id10t | sidiot had the same prob iwth debian too |
| 01:42.02 | grandma | abrotman, not for that ip... someone in apache told me to set up a unique ip for the ssl |
| 01:42.21 | grandma | so i did, and added a DNS entry |
| 01:42.23 | secher | thingfish: the drive itself seems fine, I guess my next question should be: what tool should I use to check the drive for bad sectors, and general integrity? |
| 01:42.26 | abrotman | grandma: which is correct .. but it seems the default http host is answering all IPs |
| 01:42.31 | remyforbes777 | no |
| 01:42.32 | secher | or rather my first. |
| 01:42.38 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: no |
| 01:42.48 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 k8 |
| 01:42.50 | thingfish | secher: fsck probably. |
| 01:43.04 | *** join/#debian black (n=black@200-127-238-143.net.prima.net.ar) |
| 01:43.05 | secher | thingfish: fsck shows everything just ducky now. |
| 01:43.10 | black | hello everybody!! |
| 01:43.14 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: nothing |
| 01:43.15 | black | I need help |
| 01:43.18 | grandma | abrotman, ah...so it checks the :80 config before it touches the ssl config? |
| 01:43.24 | citral | dpkg: be a german barby is <reply> germany is so coooold! |
| 01:43.24 | dpkg | okay, citral |
| 01:43.34 | abrotman | remyforbes777: you're either lying , typing it incorrectly, or your system is severely broken |
| 01:43.34 | black | In my machine I have a windows xp and a debian sarge |
| 01:43.35 | thingfish | secher: does the drive's manufacturer have any diagnostic utilities you can run? |
| 01:43.39 | remyforbes777 | lol |
| 01:43.55 | remyforbes777 | abrotman; i am not lying , have no reason to, I am trying to get this installed LOl |
| 01:43.56 | black | I installed the debian but know my windows doesn't start |
| 01:43.57 | abrotman | grandma: do you want the system to answer at all for 80 on that IP ? |
| 01:44.13 | black | the problem is if I reinstall windows I will erase the grub |
| 01:44.20 | grandma | abrotman, no...unless it's possible to use the 80 and 443 on the same ip |
| 01:44.23 | black | how can I solve this problem? |
| 01:44.24 | abrotman | remyforbes777: did you install pure64 ? |
| 01:44.25 | grandma | abrotman, for the same website |
| 01:44.30 | abrotman | grandma: it is |
| 01:44.30 | secher | thingfish: Hrm. Dunno, feh, I have to shutdown to check it.. be right back. |
| 01:44.31 | grandma | just ssl/non |
| 01:44.31 | remyforbes777 | no |
| 01:44.38 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: what is that |
| 01:44.42 | sidiot | maybe using the 386 version instead of 686 version would solve the problem? |
| 01:44.45 | abrotman | remyforbes777: ignore that then |
| 01:44.59 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-cache search image-2.6 .. see anything ? |
| 01:45.02 | sidiot | nothing like a sidiot running sid |
| 01:45.30 | abrotman | grandma: you could setup iptables to just not allow on that IP for http/80 traffic |
| 01:45.37 | citral | pffff java sucks my cpu |
| 01:45.42 | grandma | abrotman, hmm. so i'll have an :80 config and :443 config...i did this before and connection was being refused. i'll rework it and get back with you |
| 01:45.43 | abrotman | duh |
| 01:45.56 | grandma | it's still being refused |
| 01:46.08 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: everything is for the k7 |
| 01:46.09 | abrotman | all traffic gets refused ? |
| 01:46.17 | remyforbes777 | nothign for k8, and I am not lying |
| 01:46.21 | abrotman | remyforbes777: you have none for 686 ? |
| 01:46.36 | remyforbes777 | yeah i do |
| 01:46.52 | abrotman | remyforbes777: in your /etc/apt/sources.list .. do any of the lines start with a # ? |
| 01:46.54 | *** join/#debian kimo (i=ahmedy@213.31.243.189) |
| 01:47.04 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: yeah, i meant besides all the intel architecture |
| 01:47.10 | *** part/#debian munkee (i=dwhit@dazed.slacker.com) |
| 01:47.14 | remyforbes777 | i only have k7 |
| 01:47.27 | remyforbes777 | yeah but i was told to comment them out |
| 01:47.47 | abrotman | remyforbes777: your internet works on the debian box ? |
| 01:47.53 | remyforbes777 | yep |
| 01:48.00 | abrotman | remyforbes777: apt-get install irssi-text |
| 01:48.25 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: doing it now |
| 01:48.29 | abrotman | remyforbes777: irssi -c irc.freenode.net |
| 01:48.37 | abrotman | remyforbes777: use your debian box as your irc client |
| 01:49.19 | *** join/#debian mariano (n=mariano@200-122-1-78.dsl.prima.net.ar) |
| 01:49.23 | kimo | a manager & employess want to keep track of shared tasks, and get email notifications whenever anyone updates the task. Is there any FOSS to do this? |
| 01:49.32 | michal_ | is there something wrong with this apt source line? deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 01:49.43 | id10t | how can i compile something staticly ? IIRC from LFS (too long ago) that it is something like --flags=static??? |
| 01:49.52 | abrotman | kimo: checked freshmeat ? |
| 01:50.03 | citral | id10t: well... where are wou living? |
| 01:50.05 | kimo | abrotman, no |
| 01:50.07 | *** join/#debian remyforb1s777 (n=remyforb@cpe-24-209-235-191.cinci.res.rr.com) |
| 01:50.14 | abrotman | remyforb1s777: yay |
| 01:50.20 | remyforb1s777 | lol |
| 01:50.26 | abrotman | remyforb1s777: now .. /join #flood |
| 01:50.27 | michal_ | Err http://ftp.debian.org stable/main Packages |
| 01:50.27 | michal_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:50.32 | id10t | citral does it matter? |
| 01:50.43 | remyforbes777 | what does that do |
| 01:50.43 | sidiot | citral does it matter? |
| 01:50.55 | citral | idiots strike back |
| 01:50.56 | sidiot | i'll be id10t shadow |
| 01:51.00 | id10t | citral whoops wrong id10t |
| 01:51.01 | sidiot | ha ha |
| 01:51.09 | Tortel | !smite citral |
| 01:51.18 | other-id10t | here |
| 01:51.29 | other-id10t | heck, i'll even re-ask my question :) |
| 01:51.30 | michal_ | anyone know what's goingg on? is there something wrong with the main debbian site? |
| 01:51.33 | other-id10t | how can i compile something staticly ? IIRC from LFS (too long ago) that it is something like --flags=static??? |
| 01:51.36 | citral | id10t: well there is of course a mirror near of your location |
| 01:51.37 | *** join/#debian hunter86 (n=hunter86@219.138.143.8) |
| 01:51.43 | *** join/#debian zp (n=zp@219.140.90.194) |
| 01:51.50 | gravity | michal_: Works for me |
| 01:51.53 | sidiot | stick a us before .debian.org |
| 01:51.57 | thingfish | michal_: some debian.org sites were earlier seeming to have trouble. |
| 01:52.00 | zp | hello, every one |
| 01:52.00 | black | does somebody can help me? |
| 01:52.13 | citral | black: ask your question already |
| 01:52.21 | gravity | citral: /lastlog is your friend |
| 01:52.28 | gravity | He already did |
| 01:52.37 | citral | gravity: too lazy |
| 01:52.54 | gravity | Dude, then don't make him repeat yourself if you're too lazy to type a simple command |
| 01:52.55 | citral | and no real interrest I must admit |
| 01:52.55 | *** join/#debian carlois (n=carlois@201.240.49.19) |
| 01:53.26 | black | I installed debian sarge and the grup corrupt my windows, know I can't boot from windows.... I can solve it reinstalling windows, but it will erase the grub and I won't boot from debian any more |
| 01:53.44 | liable | black: paste your menu.lst on a paster |
| 01:54.01 | black | where is the menu.lst? |
| 01:54.09 | Kluster_v2 | /boot/grub |
| 01:54.11 | Gnea | black: just reboot from the debian cd, but use it as a rescue disk: boot: linux root=/dev/hdaX then just use grub-install |
| 01:54.14 | citral | black: you mean it modified the boot record, not corrupt windows... |
| 01:54.27 | liable | black: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 01:54.40 | sidiot | i hear that etch is going to be released in dec 2006 |
| 01:54.42 | black | let me see |
| 01:54.52 | Gnea | sidiot: heh and you believed it? |
| 01:54.56 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:55.07 | thingfish | well you never know! :) |
| 01:55.23 | sidiot | how is the 2.6.12 kernel? |
| 01:55.43 | sidiot | i.e. are there any more bugs |
| 01:55.52 | sidiot | more=major |
| 01:55.53 | *** join/#debian douglas (n=douglas@250-54.customer.cloud9.net) |
| 01:55.57 | *** part/#debian douglas (n=douglas@250-54.customer.cloud9.net) |
| 01:56.11 | black | http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/VuQjHY79.html |
| 01:56.20 | black | there is my menu.lst |
| 01:56.27 | *** join/#debian awb4422 (n=awb4422@12-208-67-229.client.insightBB.com) |
| 01:56.34 | Gnea | sidiot: search the bts |
| 01:56.35 | Gnea | !bts |
| 01:56.35 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 01:56.49 | awb4422 | is there a tool that can tell me what distro something is running just by ip? |
| 01:56.56 | *** join/#debian grendal (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 01:57.01 | gravity | awb4422: queso mabye |
| 01:57.02 | kimo | awb4422, nmap |
| 01:57.03 | gravity | maybe even |
| 01:57.08 | Gnea | awb4422: nmap might |
| 01:57.09 | thingfish | hehe cheese |
| 01:57.14 | gravity | Oh yeah, nmap got that feature |
| 01:57.25 | Gnea | but queso was the first :) |
| 01:57.28 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@static-67-62-27-40.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 01:57.29 | kimo | awb4422, nmap -A ;) |
| 01:57.46 | liable | black: looks ok, what happens when you try and run windows? |
| 01:58.02 | citral | black: looks fine for me too |
| 01:58.10 | black | liable: it says that a windows file doesn't exist |
| 01:58.17 | *** join/#debian jjazz (n=jjazz@pool-162-84-196-241.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 01:58.22 | liable | black: try the fix ntloader or whatever it is on the windows cd |
| 01:58.33 | black | windows xp? |
| 01:58.41 | citral | /fix mbr |
| 01:58.49 | black | thats func? |
| 01:58.52 | liable | no, that will rewrite the mbr.. |
| 01:58.59 | secher | Hrmm.. can't find it in /proc and I have to remove the keyboard to get to the actual drive ( it's a laptop ). How would I find out the manufacturer of a drive? in /proc/ide/hdc/model all I get is a serial number. |
| 01:59.13 | black | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:59.17 | citral | no |
| 01:59.24 | citral | that's wrong |
| 01:59.28 | Gnea | kimo: nmap -O |
| 01:59.31 | Phated | liable: You could always rewrite the mbr, and then boot from d-i and chroot in, then do a clean grub-install. |
| 01:59.41 | nite613 | nmap -A or -O doesn't identify my debian machines as such |
| 02:00.00 | Gnea | then you didn't do it right |
| 02:00.02 | liable | Phated: he can boot debian, but not windows (i think( |
| 02:00.06 | awb4422 | im firing up my machine to test nmap |
| 02:00.09 | secher | nite316: why would you want it to? |
| 02:00.18 | liable | black: can you boot debian? |
| 02:00.19 | *** join/#debian Neerlan_Amorim (n=neerlan@201.16.38.61) |
| 02:00.22 | citral | black: I'd boot in debian and try to figure the real windows partition with, for example, fstab. maybe grub didn't detect it correctly |
| 02:00.25 | black | yes of course |
| 02:00.35 | liable | k, try the fix ntloader |
| 02:00.46 | Phated | liable: Ah. |
| 02:00.46 | *** join/#debian Dnbytheschoolyrd (n=Julio@68.49.2.230) |
| 02:00.51 | nite613 | secher: awb4422 was looking for a tool that would fingerprint the distro given an IP. There were many responses for nmap -A or -O, but that doesn't actually work |
| 02:01.03 | nite613 | gives a lot of other good version info though |
| 02:01.26 | *** join/#debian jd|laptop (n=jdhutchi@user-0cdv0h3.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:01.40 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 02:01.46 | secher | awb4422: a properly hardened system will not ID the OS, sort of another layer of security. |
| 02:01.54 | sidiot | !gnome |
| 02:01.54 | dpkg | gnome is, like, a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome> |
| 02:02.13 | black | title Windows NT/2000/XP |
| 02:02.14 | black | root (hd0,2) |
| 02:02.14 | black | savedefault |
| 02:02.14 | black | makeactive |
| 02:02.14 | black | chainloader +1 |
| 02:02.14 | *** part/#debian black (n=black@200-127-238-143.net.prima.net.ar) |
| 02:02.22 | secher | whoops. <grin> |
| 02:02.23 | Neerlan_Amorim | where meeting how you the pppoe-server? |
| 02:02.57 | secher | Neerlan_Amorim: what? |
| 02:03.05 | Kluster_v2 | black: fdisk -lblack, what's your windows partition when you type fdisk -l |
| 02:03.23 | Neerlan_Amorim | secher, I am having problems to auth in pap-secrets or chap-secrets |
| 02:03.24 | *** join/#debian miriam (n=miriam@217.149.148.54) |
| 02:03.24 | secher | black's been booted, and hasn't rejoined yet. |
| 02:03.27 | *** join/#debian |splat| (n=sweetbre@pcp0011415952pcs.desoto01.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:03.28 | miriam | jelou |
| 02:03.37 | citral | oh boy my land is in flame. riots riots riots |
| 02:03.47 | *** join/#debian dusk (i=d@24.63.143.116) |
| 02:03.52 | abrotman | citral: you live in the states ? |
| 02:03.52 | *** part/#debian Dnbytheschoolyrd (n=Julio@68.49.2.230) |
| 02:04.01 | citral | abrotman: I come from france |
| 02:04.13 | miriam | i am searching for someone who can help me to install puredata |
| 02:04.17 | *** join/#debian black (n=black@200-127-238-143.net.prima.net.ar) |
| 02:04.18 | abrotman | citral: oh .. this is good news! :) |
| 02:04.25 | black | in my fdisk -l /dev/hda I have this->/dev/hda3 * 1 2242 18008833+ 7 HPFS/NTFS |
| 02:04.26 | liable | hah |
| 02:04.35 | Neerlan_Amorim | I am having problems to legalize in pap-secrets or chap-secrets in pppoe-server |
| 02:04.41 | *** join/#debian rollingbits (i=rbits@150158.cps.virtua.com.br) |
| 02:04.42 | secher | Neerlan_Amorim: have you tried pppoeconf ? |
| 02:05.00 | citral | there are actually 9500 cops in the streets to try keeping control |
| 02:05.41 | miriam | does someone know if there is a irc special channel for puredata? |
| 02:05.50 | thingfish | wow man, france is intense right now. |
| 02:05.52 | *** join/#debian itp560 (n=itp560@203-217-21-194.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 02:06.02 | thingfish | I really feel for them, it must be scary. |
| 02:06.17 | citral | paris burning, talalala |
| 02:06.25 | secher | The four horsemen ride, and the world trembles, the end draws nigh. |
| 02:06.26 | thingfish | major bummer |
| 02:06.27 | secher | brb. |
| 02:06.30 | Dewi | anyone know the difference between "vim-gtk", "vim-gnome", and "vim-full"? |
| 02:06.35 | thingfish | man for real |
| 02:06.36 | abrotman | thingfish: i blame the french |
| 02:06.39 | thingfish | tsk |
| 02:06.41 | Neerlan_Amorim | secher, no.... do you look my pppoe-server-option conf file? |
| 02:06.46 | Dewi | according to apt-get, they all "provide gvim" |
| 02:06.58 | citral | abrotman: the govr |
| 02:06.59 | itp560 | I want to create a custom initrd.img ? where is the config file for it ? |
| 02:07.09 | abrotman | citral: i blame the french! |
| 02:07.17 | stew | gravity: ping? |
| 02:07.20 | gravity | stew: pong |
| 02:07.23 | citral | abrotman: the governement is just getting back 1-2 years of intense repression |
| 02:07.25 | sidiot | !french |
| 02:07.25 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 02:07.28 | *** join/#debian dvs (n=dvs@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 02:07.29 | sidiot | !france |
| 02:07.29 | dpkg | Vous pouvez obtenir de l'aide sur Debian sur le canal #debian-fr - For help in french, please join #debian-fr |
| 02:07.34 | thingfish | abrotman: you've obviously never had a perfect canard a l'orange then. |
| 02:07.34 | gravity | sidiot: Stop it |
| 02:07.42 | dusk | sup gravity |
| 02:07.46 | dusk | i started learning ruby on rails |
| 02:07.55 | citral | abrotman: frogs! |
| 02:08.00 | dvs | doh |
| 02:08.00 | stew | gravity: in xorg-common and x11-common both contain /etc/X11/Xsession? |
| 02:08.03 | abrotman | citral: the french are frogs ? |
| 02:08.08 | thingfish | j/k seriously the french started the whole revolution thing |
| 02:08.10 | *** join/#debian MrPrimate (n=MrPrimat@c-67-161-123-160.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 02:08.12 | dusk | vijay was down to boston this weekend and i missed him |
| 02:08.12 | stew | gravity: in 6.8.2.dfsg.1-10 |
| 02:08.14 | gravity | dusk: Cool! |
| 02:08.17 | citral | abrotman: kind of |
| 02:08.26 | gravity | dusk: Yeah, he was here. He got in too late to go out |
| 02:08.27 | abrotman | how is it cool that he missed him ? |
| 02:08.39 | gravity | stew: In unstable or experimental? |
| 02:08.42 | citral | abrotman: they eat them. and the mimetic can begin |
| 02:08.43 | stew | unstable |
| 02:08.51 | MrPrimate | is anyone is anyone here familiar with lame encoder or sox ? |
| 02:08.58 | dusk | ive been using PostgreSQL |
| 02:09.03 | dusk | over MySQL |
| 02:09.06 | gravity | Ok, I'll have a look |
| 02:09.08 | citral | MrPrimate: a little.. your q? |
| 02:09.12 | stew | gravity: want me to file it? |
| 02:09.19 | gravity | stew: Sure |
| 02:09.30 | gravity | Although I'm trying very hard to ignore all the bug reports |
| 02:09.36 | abrotman | is it working ? |
| 02:09.39 | stew | bad maintainer :) |
| 02:09.43 | *** join/#debian Venson (n=Venson@user-0cdf65u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:09.45 | abrotman | stew: they all do it! |
| 02:09.50 | gravity | Nah, the priority is to get the modular packages ready |
| 02:09.52 | *** join/#debian jake1932 (n=jake1932@pool-68-163-57-114.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:09.57 | gravity | That'll make tackling the bugs 10x easier |
| 02:09.58 | abrotman | actually .. that's not true .. azeem was pretty nice to me |
| 02:10.06 | gravity | azeem is da man |
| 02:10.07 | abrotman | gravity: wont' i have to refile bugs ? |
| 02:10.10 | Tortel | !doom |
| 02:10.11 | dpkg | from memory, doom is an old first person shooting game that spawned the likes of Quake and so on. The classic Castle Wolfenstein series spawned Doom. or There are several cool ports of doom, including zDoom (but it has major licensing problems, includes non-free code from Hexen) and DoomForge(doomGL.sourceforge.net) Doom Legacy is also cool. (doomlegacy.sourceforge.net) Doom III is going to be coming out! yipee! Also PrBoom ... |
| 02:10.12 | gravity | abrotman: Nope |
| 02:10.17 | abrotman | Tortel: leave the god damn bot alone |
| 02:10.25 | Tortel | hmm, not what I wanted... |
| 02:10.29 | dondelelcaro | Tortel: please use /msg if you need to ask the bot a question. Otherwise the bot will ignore you. |
| 02:10.34 | abrotman | gravity: not refile .. re-attach .. to new packages ? |
| 02:10.42 | Neerlan_Amorim | I have problems for autentication in the pppoe-server |
| 02:10.44 | dondelelcaro | reassign... |
| 02:10.44 | *** join/#debian black (n=black@200-127-238-143.net.prima.net.ar) |
| 02:10.45 | gravity | abrotman: Nope |
| 02:10.47 | abrotman | yeah .. |
| 02:10.48 | citral | abrotman: but, just to come back on your attack, I personally blame Mr Bush fo all the evil in the world. Mr Chirac isn't that agressive case you noticed. |
| 02:10.54 | abrotman | because my feeble brain couldn't think of the term :) |
| 02:10.58 | MrPrimate | citral, n/m i've figured out how to do it with the combination of the two |
| 02:10.58 | gravity | abrotman: A lot of the packages will have the same names |
| 02:11.00 | MrPrimate | citral, thanks though |
| 02:11.04 | abrotman | citral: i'm all for that |
| 02:11.10 | gravity | The ones that are different will have to be refiled, but I was going to do that |
| 02:11.19 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. i thought part of the modular was to break the package apart |
| 02:11.20 | gravity | Or rather, reassigned |
| 02:11.27 | fbi | whooohooo i got woody to upgrade and sound works! |
| 02:11.27 | gravity | abrotman: It is. They'll be different source packages |
| 02:11.30 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: is ok; I've read through the bts code enough to have it idelibly marked on my brain |
| 02:11.37 | liable | black: its fixboot i think you want to try from the windows cd. |
| 02:11.38 | Dewi | dpkg: I can't wait for doom3 to come out |
| 02:11.40 | dondelelcaro | s/id/ind/ |
| 02:11.45 | secher | citral: opinion seconded. |
| 02:11.47 | gravity | I guess a lot of them will move from xserver-xorg to xserver-driver-foo |
| 02:11.48 | abrotman | gravity: oh .. but they won't need reassigned ? |
| 02:11.52 | gravity | Some will |
| 02:11.53 | black | liable: how can I do it? |
| 02:11.57 | gravity | Most won't hopefully |
| 02:11.57 | fbi | gravity: nv driver should work for an old vanta nv6 card, yes? on xfree86... |
| 02:12.00 | gravity | I don't know yet |
| 02:12.04 | gravity | fbi: Got me |
| 02:12.07 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: that's not right :) |
| 02:12.08 | fbi | i can't seem to get an X server up unless i use vesa |
| 02:12.09 | *** join/#debian mike_ (n=mike@c-24-218-117-75.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:12.15 | mike_ | can i mount an iso file r/w? |
| 02:12.15 | liable | black: ask in a windows channel. make sure you dont run fixmbr though. |
| 02:12.36 | fbi | oh well, i really don't care |
| 02:12.39 | dvs | mike_: nope |
| 02:12.41 | *** part/#debian jake1932 (n=jake1932@pool-68-163-57-114.phil.east.verizon.net) |
| 02:12.46 | *** part/#debian rollingbits (i=rbits@150158.cps.virtua.com.br) |
| 02:12.50 | fbi | i can play tunes in console and ssh which is all i wanted out of this piece of crap |
| 02:12.55 | secher | is there a utility that I can use to determine my drive make and model? /proc/ide/hdc/model just gives me a serial or somesuch. |
| 02:13.04 | stew | gravity: ignore me, xorg-common doesn't even exist anymore |
| 02:13.07 | citral | secher: hdparm |
| 02:13.14 | mike_ | damn... |
| 02:13.15 | liable | secher: or kernal logs |
| 02:13.24 | abrotman | secher: hdparm might |
| 02:13.26 | liable | !kernal |
| 02:13.26 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 02:13.28 | gravity | fbi: It doesn't look like it |
| 02:13.31 | *** join/#debian ramir3z (n=rami@p54A6608F.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 02:13.35 | EdibleText | Neerlan_Amorim, did you pppoe-config, and are you sure that your username/password is correct, and sometimes providers of pppoe services suck |
| 02:13.35 | gravity | stew: Ok, sounds good :-) |
| 02:13.41 | *** join/#debian zer0 (n=port113@host86-137-37-126.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 02:13.42 | Dewi | !spam |
| 02:13.42 | dpkg | well, spam is a preferred environment. SPAM; Shut up, You damn Vikings! SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM SPAM, or to destroy it, try spamassassin (spamd+spamc) , razor or crm114 (but be ready to train it for a week) |
| 02:13.46 | Dewi | whoa |
| 02:13.50 | Dewi | :P |
| 02:13.55 | fbi | eh. not a big deal, i won't even be running X unless i need a browser while in my garage |
| 02:14.13 | fbi | as long as i can play tunes everything is cool like fonzie |
| 02:14.23 | dvs | fbi: My roommate? |
| 02:14.30 | fbi | dvs: you live with fonzie? |
| 02:14.40 | citral | or try postfix header_checks for efficient spam reject :) |
| 02:14.55 | dvs | fbi: Apparently. He keeps his hair so in line that he got the nickname fonzie. |
| 02:14.59 | fbi | haha |
| 02:15.38 | *** join/#debian grendal (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 02:15.50 | EdibleText | fonzie was a jukebox hacker |
| 02:15.57 | dvs | EdibleText: True |
| 02:16.16 | fbi | fonzie was a dork, he didn't even ride a real harley |
| 02:16.19 | fbi | he rode a honda. |
| 02:16.22 | deadcat | HAHAHA |
| 02:16.24 | catlee | heh, what about using python's libgmail to store user configuration files? I like it :) |
| 02:16.27 | dvs | Blashemy |
| 02:16.29 | dondelelcaro | dear $DEITY, why are we discussing the intricacies of "Happy Days" on #debian? |
| 02:16.36 | EdibleText | heh |
| 02:16.45 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: you wanna be Potsy ? |
| 02:16.51 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: variable undeclared. |
| 02:16.54 | gravity | dondelelcaro: Clearly, we've jumped the shark |
| 02:17.03 | EdibleText | nice |
| 02:17.04 | dvs | exactly |
| 02:17.18 | fbi | s/jumped the shark/jumped the shark on a honda/ |
| 02:17.50 | *** join/#debian theblue (n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:17.53 | *** part/#debian theblue (n=theblue@pcp04402293pcs.nrockv01.md.comcast.net) |
| 02:18.09 | *** join/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:18.13 | virgomoon | deselect is wanting to 'temporarily remove' e2fsprogs .. is this a good idea to force? |
| 02:18.14 | ratonn | is there a way to keep cron from emailing the output from programs? |
| 02:18.26 | abrotman | yes |
| 02:18.29 | *** part/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 02:18.33 | dvs | ratonn: > /dev/null |
| 02:18.42 | abrotman | set the MAILTO to nobody |
| 02:19.08 | liable | !e2fsprogs |
| 02:19.08 | Deb0r | Not updating image symbolic links since we are being updated (786:MyKernel2.6.14) |
| 02:19.10 | dpkg | well, e2fsprogs is if you are getting a messages about Force LoopBreak a likely cause is that you are trying to upgrade pre-stable packages to testing which isnt' supported. you should fully upgrade to the current stable before upgrading to testing,ask me about <force loopbreak> |
| 02:19.12 | ratonn | dvs: so say * * * * * binary > /dev/null |
| 02:19.12 | ratonn | ? |
| 02:19.19 | abrotman | yay lga |
| 02:19.21 | abrotman | lag |
| 02:19.22 | Deb0r | why is it seeing a 786 rev image? |
| 02:19.27 | dvs | ratonn: That will take care of the standard output, yeah |
| 02:20.01 | ratonn | dvs: is it commonly used? |
| 02:20.15 | dvs | ratonn: Is what commonly used? |
| 02:20.26 | Neerlan_Amorim | EdibleText, username/password is correct in file /etc/ppp/chap-secrets or pap-secrets |
| 02:20.43 | virgomoon | hmm .. so how do I convince dselect to use only 'stable'? |
| 02:20.57 | ratonn | dvs: > /dev/null to trash cron output |
| 02:20.59 | *** join/#debian tengulre (n=tengulre@221.11.5.180) |
| 02:21.15 | mtnman | virgomoon: edit sources.list to only reference stable or sarge |
| 02:21.22 | dvs | ratonn: If you don't want output. Or if the program has a quiet option, use that. |
| 02:21.42 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@solosoft.org) |
| 02:21.47 | ratonn | dvs: thanks |
| 02:21.47 | *** join/#debian grumpydog (n=grumpydo@freematrix/staff/grumpydog) |
| 02:21.55 | dvs | ratonn: No problem. |
| 02:22.16 | MrPrimate | citral, a question about lame -- it wants to downsample everything to 8khz, but I want 44.1khz at 64kbps, |
| 02:22.19 | EdibleText | Neerlan_Amorim, has this account been activate or some such thing... |
| 02:22.23 | MrPrimate | citral, do you have any idea how I can achieve this ? |
| 02:22.30 | virgomoon | mtnman: so that line should read http://../debian sarge .. only, not the sarge main contrib non-free ? |
| 02:22.30 | Deb0r | guys is there a way to tell grub: if 2.6.14 have an error at booting... boot 2.4.8 insted? |
| 02:22.48 | dvs | Deb0r: automatically? |
| 02:22.58 | Deb0r | yeah |
| 02:23.05 | mtnman | virgomoon: man sources.list will explain the details. but you doo need at least main |
| 02:23.11 | dvs | Deb0r: I don't know how to do it automatically, no |
| 02:23.21 | virgomoon | mtnman: that would just make sense, lol .. thanks |
| 02:23.34 | *** join/#debian rohal (n=gaurav@203.200.95.130) |
| 02:23.34 | Deb0r | because i am miles away from the box, so if 2.6.14 fails i wanna be able to still log in :( |
| 02:23.45 | mtnman | virgomoon: you're welcome. |
| 02:24.14 | citral | MrPrimate: huh, why would it want that? tried lame --preset for a list ? |
| 02:24.45 | Neerlan_Amorim | EdibleText, do you have manual or howto for pppoe-server? rp-pppoe |
| 02:25.04 | MrPrimate | i'm not sure what the preset thing is about... it seems to have things like fast standard, cbr 192, 172, extreme??? |
| 02:25.21 | MrPrimate | all I know is that I want 64kbps and 44khz |
| 02:25.31 | virgomoon | perfect .. damn, now it wants to remove x-window-system .. lol .. I knew that was too easy |
| 02:25.32 | *** part/#debian Venson (n=Venson@user-0cdf65u.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:26.00 | MrPrimate | I certainly don't want 8khz |
| 02:26.02 | *** join/#debian urelement (n=chatzill@toronto-HSE-ppp4300726.sympatico.ca) |
| 02:26.03 | mtnman | virgomoon: x-window-system is a dummy package which you can safely remove |
| 02:27.22 | *** join/#debian Anthro (n=keljsrh@pdpc/supporter/active/Anthro) |
| 02:27.28 | *** join/#debian jlmb (n=jlmb@200.75.206.117) |
| 02:27.31 | virgomoon | oh, ok .. you realize I'm trusting you an awfully lot right now |
| 02:27.56 | mtnman | virgomoon; apt-cache show x-window-system to verify |
| 02:28.39 | *** join/#debian XxX (n=uknow@128-1-112.adsl.terra.cl) |
| 02:29.15 | *** join/#debian powerson (n=powerson@61-250-139-129.rev.krline.net) |
| 02:29.17 | tengulre | Hello, anybody know how to manager Debian server per day? |
| 02:29.25 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 02:29.45 | mtnman | tengulre: you're question is incoherent |
| 02:29.59 | abrotman | and makes no sense! |
| 02:30.00 | *** join/#debian Jacky (n=boymice@218.82.81.102) |
| 02:30.04 | mtnman | that too... |
| 02:30.08 | dvs | and no one understands |
| 02:30.08 | Anthro | I'm downloading a kubuntu liveCD for PPC to see if I can recover anything from my hosed HD. It's just for booting, but I have some configuration I want to save (/etc) and some local stuff (/usr/local). Is there anything else I should try to save? /var/lib/dpkg/status? |
| 02:30.23 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 02:30.43 | *** join/#debian jkern (n=jkern@d38-144-96.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 02:30.47 | tengulre | ?? |
| 02:30.55 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (n=phil@firthpark.tinsleyviaduct.com) |
| 02:31.03 | mtnman | anthro: um, /home? |
| 02:31.15 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@static-67-62-27-40.dsl.cavtel.net) |
| 02:31.34 | Anthro | mtnman: Like I said, it was just for booting. /home and a couple other data partitions are on a RAID that is doing just fine, thanks. |
| 02:31.39 | *** part/#debian jkomiu (n=user@219.131.242.21) |
| 02:32.03 | secher | Ok, once I get this drive checked and am certain all is fine, how do I check all installed packages for integrity and reinstall those that fail? |
| 02:32.14 | mtnman | anthro: well, "just for booting" doesn't say anything about /home. |
| 02:32.23 | Anthro | secher: Don't check for integrity. Reinstall everything. |
| 02:32.35 | Anthro | mtnman: Fair enough. |
| 02:32.42 | secher | Anthro: apt-get install --reinstall *? |
| 02:32.51 | mtnman | anthro: besides, "just for booting" was in reference to the boot cd |
| 02:33.13 | Anthro | mtnman: I meant it to be in reference to the disk. Ack, I guess I was unclear. |
| 02:33.24 | mtnman | anthro: clearly :) |
| 02:33.38 | *** join/#debian freedom101 (n=freedom1@modemcable149.222-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 02:33.48 | Anthro | secher: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall` |
| 02:34.01 | Anthro | secher: Whoops! Slightly wrong' |
| 02:34.06 | Anthro | secher: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1` |
| 02:34.10 | Anthro | better |
| 02:34.27 | secher | Anthro: Nice.. Thanks! |
| 02:35.25 | *** join/#debian douglas (n=douglas@250-54.customer.cloud9.net) |
| 02:35.35 | *** join/#debian lsald (n=james@ppp-69-223-137-109.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 02:35.59 | *** join/#debian XShocK (n=XShocK@centaur.acm.jhu.edu) |
| 02:36.04 | *** join/#debian typewriter (n=w8@unaffiliated/typewriter) |
| 02:36.17 | typewriter | Hey, I installed logwatch... and I'm wondering do i need to crontab it? |
| 02:36.29 | *** part/#debian rohal (n=gaurav@203.200.95.130) |
| 02:37.48 | mtnman | typewriter: don't know anything about logwatch, but if i had that question i would look at the package's docs. |
| 02:38.02 | typewriter | i did |
| 02:38.17 | typewriter | im asking because im wondering if debian did it automatically |
| 02:38.21 | typewriter | if it did, its not working |
| 02:38.28 | *** join/#debian trashbot (n=aimtrain@p54AFBD5B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:38.31 | typewriter | or if the pkg was meant for me to manually crontab |
| 02:38.36 | *** join/#debian buckethead (n=awk@203.215.100.96) |
| 02:39.00 | mtnman | typewriter: see /usr/share/doc/packagename/readme.Debian perhaps |
| 02:40.03 | secher | hrm.. it just occurred to me that my /var/cache/apt/archives prolly has corrupt packages. is there a way to check the validity of those? I guess a MD5sum diff? |
| 02:40.08 | *** mode/#debian [+l 738] by debhelper |
| 02:40.12 | abrotman | trashbot: do you like me? |
| 02:40.12 | citral | MrPrimate: then you just want lame -b 64 --resample 44.1 |
| 02:40.57 | secher | abrotman: no one like you, you're from Limerick. <grin> |
| 02:41.13 | *** join/#debian freckledpenguin (n=freckled@c-67-161-220-216.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 02:41.16 | secher | abrotman: you're irradiated. |
| 02:41.18 | *** join/#debian adrian64 (n=none@cpe-071-068-085-212.carolina.res.rr.com) |
| 02:41.57 | MrPrimate | citral, right, thanks seems to be working |
| 02:42.16 | freckledpenguin | I'm getting an AMD laptop tomorrow (with a Turion MT-40 in it, I think). I'm wondering how the amd64 packages compare in stability, etc. to the i386 that I'm used to using... |
| 02:42.29 | citral | MrPrimate: I guess the source sound was faulty, not lame |
| 02:42.31 | adrian64 | how would i setup esd to not use oss and instead use alsa for output? |
| 02:42.34 | freckledpenguin | anyone have anecdotal info on it? |
| 02:42.40 | fbi | i just messed up a single file's permissions, what chmod will give me -rw-r--r-- |
| 02:42.55 | dvs | fbi: 644 |
| 02:42.55 | freckledpenguin | 644 |
| 02:42.59 | fbi | cheers. |
| 02:43.17 | secher | abrotman: I didn't insult you, did I? I certainly did not mean to, was just kidding, lest you forget, I'm from Rofo. |
| 02:43.24 | jkern | typewriter, dpkg -L logwatch |
| 02:43.26 | mtnman | adrian64: there is a factoid... /msg dpkg alsa, perhaps that will answer your question |
| 02:43.32 | abrotman | secher!? |
| 02:43.33 | *** join/#debian winXperts (n=santos@ip70-171-35-89.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 02:43.34 | abrotman | secher: i am not |
| 02:43.44 | dusk | hi |
| 02:43.44 | *** join/#debian dabreegster (i=dabreegs@host-216-76-206-139.btr.bellsouth.net) |
| 02:43.58 | *** join/#debian gdub (n=gdub@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 02:43.58 | secher | abrotman: Kk.. you didn't respond to my ribbing, so I just wanted to make sure. |
| 02:44.13 | abrotman | secher: i was there last night |
| 02:44.19 | secher | the Fox? |
| 02:44.23 | abrotman | secher: yep |
| 02:44.38 | *** join/#debian Bigglesworth (n=Tizgone@ip68-105-0-112.br.no.cox.net) |
| 02:44.52 | secher | Had the fission chips? good stuff if you go for haddock and fries. |
| 02:45.07 | douglas | i got a nothing-fancy 2.6ghz amd chip, want to do a fresh install.. on debian.org/devel/debian-installer they offer an i386 and an amd64 ... i'm guessing i should go with the 386 and later download the amd kernel? |
| 02:45.07 | abrotman | hmm .. no .. roast beef sammich |
| 02:45.08 | adrian64 | mtnman, that just tells me how to setup alsa, alsa is setup and working fine, its esd thats being a pain by using oss |
| 02:45.18 | abrotman | secher: but they said the menu was changing today |
| 02:45.25 | Neerlan_Amorim | how to configure the rp-pppoe (pppoe-server)? |
| 02:45.42 | dvs | douglas: 686 should be fine. |
| 02:46.01 | mtnman | adrian64: i have not acutally read the howto, i just recently saw that it exists. |
| 02:46.04 | secher | as long as they have the fish and chips, I don't care. I used to have to go all the way to the city to get decent fish. |
| 02:46.23 | *** join/#debian wirwzd (n=wirwzd@c-24-63-233-117.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 02:46.24 | abrotman | douglas: is your Amd64 or Athlon/duron/sempron ? |
| 02:46.40 | abrotman | secher: last good fish i had .. i made :) |
| 02:46.40 | douglas | it's 32 bits |
| 02:46.56 | abrotman | douglas: then amd64 isn't for you .. you want the k7 kernels |
| 02:46.58 | dvs | douglas: exact model please |
| 02:47.01 | douglas | oh wainot seeing 686 on the installer page |
| 02:47.18 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 02:47.23 | dabreegster | douglas: try cpuid |
| 02:47.33 | dabreegster | douglas: To see the model of your processor |
| 02:47.33 | douglas | amd athlon xp 2600+ |
| 02:47.37 | secher | abrotman: lemme guess.. pan fried catfish with a lemon pepper butter sauce? |
| 02:47.49 | Bigglesworth | Wow, I really feel out of place here, I use windows. |
| 02:47.50 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 02:47.57 | dvs | !lart Bigglesworth |
| 02:48.13 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: Well, considering a switch? |
| 02:48.16 | *** join/#debian Gumby (n=gumby@unaffiliated/gumby) |
| 02:48.16 | secher | Bigglesworth: so what brings you to our little corner of the world? |
| 02:48.25 | citral | douglas: you install with i386, tht's right. after install is finished, you apt-get install linux-image-2.6-k7 |
| 02:48.28 | Bigglesworth | Yes, I am but father is being a jerk right now and wont let me. |
| 02:48.32 | dabreegster | secher: Actually, he's my friend. I'm teaching him some IRC |
| 02:48.35 | douglas | gotchya thanks |
| 02:48.44 | abrotman | secher: southern fried :) |
| 02:48.50 | dvs | Bigglesworth: Get your own then. Show him who's boss |
| 02:49.00 | *** join/#debian Disputin (n=sean@dsl093-040-143.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 02:49.04 | secher | Bigglesworth: Knoppix, learn it, love it, until you can switch fully. |
| 02:49.07 | douglas | Bigglesworth: you got a separate machine to IRC with while you install? |
| 02:49.07 | Bigglesworth | Secher:linux is VERY fascinating, i sometimes run Knoppiz. |
| 02:49.10 | abrotman | secher: rolled in cornmeal .. pan fried |
| 02:49.25 | Bigglesworth | secher: yea, breeg helped me get knoppix on a cd-r |
| 02:49.27 | dabreegster | secher: I've got him set up with that, but it won't see his network. But that's beyond the point, if there was any. |
| 02:49.43 | secher | abrotman: *tasty* Nice! never tried cornmeal breading.. hafta check it out. |
| 02:49.49 | Bigglesworth | secher: no, im using xircon right now |
| 02:50.04 | abrotman | secher: and i have a problem when i cook fish .. i always think i can eat two large pieces :) |
| 02:50.12 | abrotman | xircom ? |
| 02:50.12 | Bigglesworth | secher: i use fish fry, or crab if were out and double batter it using eggs tonys garlic powed and salt |
| 02:50.13 | *** join/#debian surfdue_ (i=surfdue@user-0c6s5d6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:50.36 | *** part/#debian surfdue_ (i=surfdue@user-0c6s5d6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 02:50.53 | Bigglesworth | abrot: Try getting some tilapia and using a skillet, it's really tasy and healthy ;) |
| 02:50.57 | *** join/#debian urelement_ (n=chatzill@toronto-HSE-ppp4300726.sympatico.ca) |
| 02:51.15 | Bigglesworth | Who here Bashes? |
| 02:52.04 | Bigglesworth | Bash.org that is. |
| 02:52.11 | Phated | I love tilapia. |
| 02:52.16 | dabreegster | hey Phated |
| 02:52.21 | Phated | dabreegster! |
| 02:52.27 | *** join/#debian uranos_ (n=uranos@164.77.198.174) |
| 02:52.28 | dabreegster | Phated: What's been up? |
| 02:52.37 | Bigglesworth | Phated: I do to my friend Trevors mom ALWAYS grills it for me |
| 02:52.38 | dvs | Pfffffft |
| 02:52.38 | Phated | dabreegster: Way, WAY too much. School kicks ass! :) |
| 02:52.43 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: tilapia for what ? |
| 02:52.45 | dabreegster | Phated: Ditto. |
| 02:52.56 | Bigglesworth | abrot: A meal ora ahavey snack |
| 02:53.02 | Bigglesworth | AH TYPO CITY |
| 02:53.12 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: fried in olive oil ? with some veggies ? .. |
| 02:53.12 | Bigglesworth | abrot: a meal or a heavy snack. |
| 02:53.27 | abrotman | fbi: see! |
| 02:53.41 | fbi | ? wasn't paying attn |
| 02:53.48 | Bigglesworth | abrot: nope no olive oil just some seasoning and plop it onto the skillet. |
| 02:54.01 | abrotman | oh .. i doubt i'd do that |
| 02:54.25 | thingfish | tilapia is good, definitely. |
| 02:54.27 | abrotman | it is |
| 02:54.34 | Bigglesworth | abrot: Sheesh, i thought i liked fried food! :D |
| 02:54.47 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: it's just oil .. like 1tbsp in the pan |
| 02:54.49 | Bigglesworth | Any one play Dungeon Crawl? |
| 02:54.51 | abrotman | maybe 2 |
| 02:54.52 | *** join/#debian alho (n=alho@201-25-203-214.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 02:54.59 | Bigglesworth | Abrot:oh for a coating yea, that or butter |
| 02:55.18 | *** join/#debian WiFiTux (i=abonilla@200.91.94.134) |
| 02:55.21 | thingfish | I like a mixture of canola oil and butter for frying fish, though. |
| 02:55.24 | fbi | abrotman: you better highlight that one too |
| 02:55.32 | WiFiTux | In what channel can I get some Debian Installing help? |
| 02:55.32 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 02:55.40 | abrotman | WiFiTux: here or #debian-boot |
| 02:55.40 | *** join/#debian ptlis (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 02:55.40 | Bigglesworth | I dont fry that much, mostly bake or grill |
| 02:55.41 | fbi | WiFiTux: right here |
| 02:55.44 | dabreegster | WiFiTux: Here. If it's Debian and not Ubuntu or Knoppix or something. |
| 02:55.51 | thingfish | yes, unfortunately I can't get away from using butter. |
| 02:55.59 | abrotman | thingfish: you fat ass! |
| 02:56.05 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (n=valdyn@ppp-62-245-211-127.mnet-online.de) |
| 02:56.08 | WiFiTux | Well, I have a intel d945GNT board, it won't find the e100 card. but the Gentoo universal Live CD will. |
| 02:56.15 | fbi | butter is ok as long as it's low sodium and you don't put half a stick on one slice of bread |
| 02:56.18 | abrotman | WiFiTux: which installer ? |
| 02:56.23 | WiFiTux | Minimal |
| 02:56.28 | abrotman | my butter is unsalted :) |
| 02:56.29 | thingfish | oh no, we don't abuse butter here. |
| 02:56.30 | Bigglesworth | fbi/abrot: I sometimes tripple batter my fishes |
| 02:56.33 | abrotman | WiFiTux: WHICH one ? |
| 02:56.39 | thingfish | absolutely unsalted. |
| 02:56.42 | sidiot | anyone running 2.12 yet? |
| 02:56.44 | dvs | WiFiTux: It's the kernel |
| 02:56.47 | sidiot | how do i get it from experimental? |
| 02:56.50 | WiFiTux | Oh potatoe or course! net-install, the latest. |
| 02:56.57 | abrotman | WiFiTux: a daily? |
| 02:56.57 | dabreegster | sidiot: 2.12 of what? |
| 02:56.58 | *** join/#debian M0ffe_ (n=moffe@smaug.amagerkollegiet.dk) |
| 02:57.00 | WiFiTux | No |
| 02:57.11 | abrotman | WiFiTux: a sarge isntaller ? |
| 02:57.12 | sidiot | oops...gnome |
| 02:57.14 | WiFiTux | yep |
| 02:57.23 | sidiot | is it...apt-get -t experimental install gnome-desktop-environment |
| 02:57.28 | dabreegster | WiFiTux: potato? That's ancient |
| 02:57.29 | WiFiTux | well, the one from the site. The Main one. |
| 02:57.30 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you'll have to use a daily .. or wait |
| 02:57.33 | abrotman | !sarge 2.6.12 |
| 02:57.33 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge 2.6.12 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/09/02#d-i-2612 |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | yay |
| 02:57.35 | abrotman | ! |
| 02:57.37 | Bigglesworth | I feel stupid in asking this but.. can any one help me with getting windows to recognize my ATI Radeon 9250. |
| 02:57.39 | WiFiTux | dabreegster: I'm joking. |
| 02:57.45 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: No. |
| 02:57.49 | dabreegster | WiFiTux: OK |
| 02:58.01 | Bigglesworth | breeg: Didn't think so |
| 02:58.04 | WiFiTux | abrotman: Nor Linux, or linux26 would work. |
| 02:58.16 | abrotman | WiFiTux: not with the sarge installer |
| 02:58.22 | fbi | Bigglesworth: i shouldn't even answer this but you probably need the driver cd. i have the same card if it's the 256mb card |
| 02:58.28 | abrotman | !sarge hardware support |
| 02:58.28 | dpkg | somebody said sarge hardware support was reasonable, but not cutting edge. XFree86 does not support nVidia 6-series or 7-series graphics cards or ATI X-series cards, without binary drivers or VESA. There is also little to no support for modern Intel i9x5-ICH6 boards, nor CPU Frequency scaling on Dothan core Pentium-M chips, nor Venice and San Diego core Athlon 64 chips. |
| 02:58.30 | Bigglesworth | Now i feel lost why cant we talk about food again? |
| 02:58.30 | WiFiTux | Have you seen this before? |
| 02:58.43 | Tortel | Goodnight all |
| 02:59.05 | Bigglesworth | fbi: i have it but i cant/dont know how to uninstall the onboard |
| 02:59.15 | thingfish | I'll talk about food all night. |
| 02:59.22 | MrPrimate | anyone know how I can make a 4-bit wave file? (sox won't do it) |
| 02:59.27 | WiFiTux | abrotman: It all worked with my 915PCY |
| 02:59.29 | dabreegster | Only thing I can cook is pigs in a blanket. |
| 02:59.32 | WiFiTux | :( but OK |
| 02:59.32 | abrotman | WiFiTux: ok then |
| 02:59.33 | Bigglesworth | fish: What's you favorite food? |
| 02:59.36 | thingfish | except for the fact that I have to go start cooking some of it soon. |
| 02:59.38 | fbi | Bigglesworth: ehm. unplug the monitor from the on-board, plug it into the agp card, reboot. |
| 02:59.40 | Bigglesworth | breeg: haha |
| 02:59.52 | thingfish | Bigglesworth: probably pasta. |
| 02:59.56 | WiFiTux | abrotman: Will a daily, maybe help? |
| 02:59.59 | thingfish | fresh, homemade pasta. |
| 03:00.03 | abrotman | WiFiTux: ask #debian-boot |
| 03:00.16 | fbi | pasta has too high of a carb content |
| 03:00.18 | thingfish | like my mom's homemade ricotta ravioli. |
| 03:00.19 | abrotman | WiFiTux: you did try linux and linux26 .. right ? |
| 03:00.24 | WiFiTux | Y |
| 03:00.25 | fbi | bad to eat unless you go to the gym all the time |
| 03:00.33 | Bigglesworth | thingfish: I love steamed artichokes with melted butter sauce with garlic and thousand island in the sauce |
| 03:00.33 | dvs | abrotman: Won't work. The kernel is too old... even 2.6.8 |
| 03:00.34 | abrotman | no way |
| 03:00.34 | thingfish | bah |
| 03:00.41 | WiFiTux | abrotman: no one answering in debian-boot for some tiume |
| 03:00.42 | abrotman | fbi: you just can't eat a mound of it |
| 03:00.44 | thingfish | ooh yes, I love artichokes. |
| 03:00.49 | fbi | and yes, i sound like a homo but i know these things because my girlfriend is a nutritionist |
| 03:00.52 | abrotman | dvs: he said his NIC isn't found |
| 03:01.07 | abrotman | fbi: yeah .. but if you have a normal amount of pasta .. it's not that bad |
| 03:01.12 | thingfish | well I *am* a homo so I can talk about food all I want. |
| 03:01.19 | thingfish | :) |
| 03:01.26 | fbi | true, but you can avoid it all together and get good carbs from other sources |
| 03:01.31 | fbi | complex carbs == bad |
| 03:01.31 | Bigglesworth | fbi: Is it okay to eat a pound of Gatorade for a snack? |
| 03:01.35 | abrotman | fbi: remember .. there's a section of the planet that eats a decent amount of pasta |
| 03:01.41 | fbi | yes i know |
| 03:01.46 | Bigglesworth | abrotman: like maybe ITALY! |
| 03:01.47 | thingfish | no, complex carbs=good. simple carbs=bad |
| 03:01.47 | dvs | abrotman: Oops. I thought the CD won't boot. |
| 03:01.55 | abrotman | but they also eat other good stuff .. like legumes .. fish .. |
| 03:01.56 | *** join/#debian Zennewbie (n=zennewbi@201.145.236.212) |
| 03:02.01 | fbi | thingfish: yeah i noticed i just said it backwards |
| 03:02.22 | abrotman | too bad i think my grocer only has bleached pasta |
| 03:02.33 | fbi | bleached? wtf |
| 03:02.36 | fbi | buy egg pasta |
| 03:02.43 | abrotman | don't think they have any |
| 03:02.50 | abrotman | i'll have to double check |
| 03:02.53 | thingfish | almost everybody these days carries whole wheat pastas. |
| 03:02.56 | Bigglesworth | fbi/abrot: I make my own shells/layers |
| 03:03.04 | thingfish | even wal-mart |
| 03:03.11 | fbi | wal-mart is the devil! |
| 03:03.15 | thingfish | amen |
| 03:03.17 | abrotman | it's not the biggest grocer .. it's just hte closest |
| 03:03.23 | thingfish | I hear that. |
| 03:03.33 | dabreegster | fbi: Smash the mirror in the back! The one representing us, the consumer, as the evil. |
| 03:03.44 | Bigglesworth | abrot/fbi/fish: yes it puts small buisnesses out of order |
| 03:03.44 | fbi | word. |
| 03:03.57 | abrotman | i don't go to walmart much |
| 03:04.05 | abrotman | the only really mega-super-store i go to is bestbuy |
| 03:04.08 | fbi | i don't either, since target is closer |
| 03:04.11 | *** join/#debian aspuru (n=aspuru@adsl-71-131-14-227.dsl.sntc01.pacbell.net) |
| 03:04.17 | *** join/#debian moreon_ (n=moreon@ppp-71-139-51-174.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) |
| 03:04.18 | Bigglesworth | I sometimes go to the mall |
| 03:04.20 | thingfish | the only best buy close to me burned down. |
| 03:04.24 | abrotman | well .. yes i go to the mall .. |
| 03:04.26 | *** part/#debian jkern (n=jkern@d38-144-96.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 03:04.28 | dvs | thingfish: ??? |
| 03:04.30 | virgomoon | I've got a build looking for "GLIB - version >= 2.0.0" .. that's libglib-2.0.so.0, correct? |
| 03:04.30 | dabreegster | thingfish: deliberately? |
| 03:04.31 | abrotman | i buy clothes at the mall |
| 03:04.32 | thingfish | it did! |
| 03:04.35 | fbi | this is the most off topic fucking convo ever. |
| 03:04.37 | *** join/#debian alho (n=alho@201-25-203-214.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:04.44 | Kluster_v2 | mall? I just visit ebay :) |
| 03:04.47 | aspuru | is there a dpkg/aptitude/dselect/synaptic guru that can help with a simple question I can't figure out? How to duplicate one machine's installed packages on to other (ie exsport a list of packages installed and then tell the other machine to install the same!) |
| 03:04.48 | dvs | thingfish: Is this an admission of guilt? ;-) |
| 03:04.49 | abrotman | hah .. a friend of mine lived in key largo .. someone bombed the blockbuster :) |
| 03:04.52 | thingfish | well I don't know about deliberately, but it burned down, down to the ground. |
| 03:04.54 | thingfish | hehe |
| 03:04.58 | Bigglesworth | kluster: i go to the mall to socalize mostly |
| 03:04.59 | fbi | i buy my clothes at skateboard warehouses |
| 03:05.01 | fbi | they are blems |
| 03:05.02 | dabreegster | thingfish: Wow. |
| 03:05.10 | abrotman | fbi: ever? |
| 03:05.14 | Bigglesworth | Ah, brb i need to go register my nick. |
| 03:05.24 | fbi | yes....i think.... |
| 03:05.28 | *** join/#debian ArtistAgent (n=ArtistAg@modem81.supermusca.bigsky.net) |
| 03:05.43 | Kluster_v2 | Bigglesworth, I get on irc to socialize (j/k) |
| 03:05.58 | dabreegster | Kluster_v2: We all do... right? |
| 03:06.03 | *** join/#debian Dave123 (i=nobody@70-101-60-218.dsl2-plymouth.roc.ny.frontiernet.net) |
| 03:06.08 | TerminX | I get on IRC to watch people talk. :( |
| 03:06.17 | aspuru | in 1998 or so, i came to socialize :P |
| 03:06.22 | abrotman | !tell aspuru about debian clone |
| 03:06.30 | Kluster_v2 | actually I hang out on freenode because there are a lot of brains here to help me with my (frequent) problems |
| 03:06.31 | *** join/#debian putz (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 03:06.32 | w33d | hey whats this opensolaris/debian project? |
| 03:06.42 | abrotman | w33d: ask slashdot |
| 03:06.43 | gravity | ugh |
| 03:06.49 | w33d | hahah |
| 03:06.51 | gravity | w33d: Drama |
| 03:06.54 | gravity | That's what it is |
| 03:07.02 | aspuru | lovely abrotman, thank you |
| 03:07.07 | abrotman | aspuru: enjoy |
| 03:07.08 | dusk | dude, i knew it was borked when i went to the page and it asked me to email them for a un/pw |
| 03:07.14 | gravity | Yeah |
| 03:07.21 | gravity | I flamed them on debian-devel for that shit |
| 03:07.23 | thingfish | psychologically, I don't know how much good can come of us questioning why we spend so much time here. |
| 03:07.36 | gravity | Not to mention that they're violating the GPL |
| 03:07.38 | *** join/#debian billtheguy (n=dfdsf@12-210-129-151.client.insightBB.com) |
| 03:07.46 | abrotman | gravity: i can't even figure out if it's a debian project or ubuntu |
| 03:07.49 | Bigglesworth | Kluster: I do to help and talk mostly |
| 03:07.53 | *** join/#debian MX-5 (n=falkon@user-24-214-77-4.knology.net) |
| 03:07.56 | gravity | abrotman: It's ubuntu |
| 03:08.02 | abrotman | yay ... |
| 03:08.16 | gravity | \o/ |
| 03:08.17 | dabreegster | #debian is a lot more fun when you come to chat and help others, rather than for the sole purpose of seeking advice. |
| 03:08.20 | aspuru | abrotman rocks |
| 03:08.37 | dabreegster | aspuru: You could translate that statement into karma points. |
| 03:08.39 | MrPrimate | anyone know how to make a 4-bit wave file ? |
| 03:08.46 | abrotman | 4 bit ? |
| 03:09.14 | Kluster_v2 | Don't get me wrong Biggles, I also like to help others, but my skills are so limited |
| 03:09.46 | dusk | i use windows |
| 03:09.47 | dusk | ha! |
| 03:10.05 | *** join/#debian Pete-home (n=Pete@pcp07924293pcs.wchstr01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:10.12 | Bigglesworth | I also use windows in conjunction with Knoppix. |
| 03:10.15 | dabreegster | dusk: And I'm a command line junkie. We all have our oddities. |
| 03:10.15 | ArtistAgent | jokes on you dusk lol |
| 03:10.20 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@cable-63-135-23-39.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 03:10.25 | ArtistAgent | j/k |
| 03:10.31 | dusk | i also use debian |
| 03:10.33 | ArtistAgent | windows has its place |
| 03:10.37 | dusk | yea im a gamer |
| 03:10.40 | dusk | and i cant stop |
| 03:10.41 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: Pity it doesn't see your wireless network |
| 03:10.49 | XxX | alguien tiene conosimiento sobre donde encontrar driver para la targeta de videos S3 Graphics ProSavageDDR (32 MB) |
| 03:10.52 | dvs | dusk: gamers anonymous? |
| 03:10.54 | abrotman | !es |
| 03:10.54 | XxX | c |
| 03:10.54 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 03:10.56 | dusk | no |
| 03:10.57 | dabreegster | dusk: I am too, not really hardcore or anything though. |
| 03:11.04 | Bigglesworth | I'm thinking about ignoring my fathers pleas and dling it |
| 03:11.16 | dabreegster | dusk: And there are some nice GPL games and some nice commercial games for *nix. |
| 03:11.20 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:11.26 | abrotman | danger from the deep! |
| 03:11.30 | thingfish | I have to admit a weakness for ms flight simulator 2004. it's the only reason I keep xp around. |
| 03:11.31 | fbi | ooOOOoo is Bigglesworth about to convert to Debian and join the dark side? |
| 03:11.40 | Bigglesworth | Yes, the dark side has cookies! |
| 03:11.42 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: It's your PC, why can't you do as you please? Only thing is, it might not see your wireless network. Knoppix sure didn't. |
| 03:11.57 | Gnea | Bigglesworth: yes! rebel against the parental unit! |
| 03:11.57 | gravity | I wish I had time for games |
| 03:11.59 | Bigglesworth | Because my father thinks im goign to look at ascii porn or something like that. |
| 03:12.01 | *** join/#debian cat (n=cat@unaffiliated/cat) |
| 03:12.05 | gravity | I work on X so everyone else can play games :-) |
| 03:12.07 | douglas | hey biggles i hope you got a lot of amphetamines within arm's reach |
| 03:12.10 | abrotman | gravity: you would .. if you got Overfiend to take your packages :) |
| 03:12.12 | dabreegster | thingfish: There are at least 5 flight sims. Search on happypenguin.org. Sabre is decent. |
| 03:12.17 | gravity | hahahaha |
| 03:12.22 | Gnea | there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with ascii porn. |
| 03:12.30 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: You can do that with Windows too. |
| 03:12.31 | fbi | wtf haha |
| 03:12.33 | gravity | abrotman: Overfiend has earned a rest from X for a while :-) |
| 03:12.39 | Bigglesworth | gnea: yea but my dad cant monitor my websites on linux |
| 03:12.41 | dusk | yea dude, if you can get it so I can play any directx game on linux |
| 03:12.42 | douglas | and biggles set a realistic goal, just get the thing to boot.. don't try to be a hero and get sound working |
| 03:12.43 | gravity | He's put in a hell of a lot of man-hours in to it |
| 03:12.43 | thingfish | well I've tried flightgear. |
| 03:12.48 | thingfish | it comes up wanting. |
| 03:12.49 | dusk | id full convert in a second |
| 03:12.51 | abrotman | gravity: so what .. your turn is over when xorg dies ? :) |
| 03:12.56 | *** join/#debian dli (n=tst@adsl-68-252-245-173.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 03:12.56 | Kluster_v2 | Even the girlfriend unit converted to Debian's darkside.. Without knowing it.. guess she just thinks her Windows icons changed |
| 03:13.07 | Bigglesworth | kluster: LOL |
| 03:13.09 | gravity | abrotman: Heh, nah more like when I burn out and don't want to do it any more |
| 03:13.14 | *** part/#debian WiFiTux (i=abonilla@200.91.94.134) |
| 03:13.18 | gravity | Hopefully modular will mean a little less burnout |
| 03:13.21 | abrotman | gravity: i give you .. til etch's release :) |
| 03:13.23 | gravity | heh |
| 03:13.32 | Bigglesworth | Windoes is getting on my nerves it asked me if I wanted to switch to blind icons.. I was like WTF ARE BLIND ICONS?!?!?!?! |
| 03:13.32 | dabreegster | That is an issue. If the parental units feel insecure, is there any parental control software that'll run on Debian? |
| 03:13.43 | abrotman | dabreegster: sudo ? |
| 03:13.55 | dli | what value of $TERM for gnome-terminal? |
| 03:13.58 | Bigglesworth | I don't go anywhere I'm not supposded to. |
| 03:13.59 | thingfish | my dad had a good parental control method... |
| 03:14.11 | thingfish | BANG |
| 03:14.14 | dabreegster | abrotman: Er, how so? I mean the traditional junk that monitors conversations and websites visited. |
| 03:14.14 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@solosoft.org) |
| 03:14.24 | dabreegster | abrotman: The issue isn't root power. |
| 03:14.25 | Kluster_v2 | But she likes it now.. she got used to OO Writer instead of MS Word.. |
| 03:14.32 | abrotman | dabreegster: i know what you meant |
| 03:14.37 | Kluster_v2 | and there I thought they felt the same.. she sure didn't |
| 03:14.44 | *** join/#debian frevidar (n=Cryptor@59.167.24.167) |
| 03:15.01 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=deb@c-67-191-91-211.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 03:15.18 | Bigglesworth | Kluster: breeg as some awsome graphical games on knoppix, like linux racer (mario kart clone) witha sweet glitch |
| 03:15.21 | abrotman | gravity: but if you drop xorg .. you have to package synfig! |
| 03:15.35 | Kluster_v2 | At first she told me: "But I won't know where to find anything, like making a table" so I said "You never could!!!". Then she gave it a try |
| 03:15.35 | dusk | ill help work on xorg |
| 03:15.40 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: It was TuxRacer |
| 03:15.44 | dusk | if it means getting games to work in linux |
| 03:16.05 | fbi | Bigglesworth: why not pick up a cheap ide disk and dual boot? so you can at least check debian out without doing anything permanent |
| 03:16.33 | dusk | thats what I do |
| 03:16.44 | dusk | super super easy to setup |
| 03:16.55 | dusk | http://www.gotapex.com |
| 03:17.02 | dusk | look for a deal on a hdd there |
| 03:17.04 | Bigglesworth | OMG |
| 03:17.08 | Bigglesworth | i thought you just typed in |
| 03:17.12 | Bigglesworth | www.goatse.com |
| 03:17.18 | Bigglesworth | i was like O_o |
| 03:17.20 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: It's goatse.cx. I know, I saw it too. |
| 03:17.24 | gravity | abrotman: synfig? |
| 03:17.29 | *** part/#debian douglas (n=douglas@250-54.customer.cloud9.net) |
| 03:17.33 | abrotman | synfig.com |
| 03:17.35 | dabreegster | Unfortunately, I've introduced Bigglesworth to bash.org. |
| 03:17.52 | fbi | bash.org causes blindness and hairy palms |
| 03:17.58 | fbi | avoid it like the plague |
| 03:18.00 | Bigglesworth | LOL |
| 03:18.02 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 03:18.08 | thingfish | hehe |
| 03:18.10 | Bigglesworth | fbi:but plauge is fun! |
| 03:18.18 | Agrajag- | a while ago someone once pasted a url here which would show a package that's in unstable and show what's blocking it from going into testing and other such info. anyone happen to know the url? |
| 03:18.20 | dabreegster | fbi: Neither symptoms have started yet for me. |
| 03:18.21 | fbi | if you say so. |
| 03:18.31 | fbi | dabreegster: give it time, my friend. |
| 03:18.45 | thingfish | Agrajag-: you do /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing |
| 03:18.48 | liable | Agrajag-: /msg dpkg why isn't foo in etch |
| 03:18.49 | abrotman | gravity: do eet! |
| 03:18.55 | thingfish | oh yes, that |
| 03:19.01 | Agrajag- | ta guys |
| 03:19.18 | Bigglesworth | fbi: Wait when you get hairy palms isnt that from a superstition about masturbation and not bash? |
| 03:19.34 | fbi | Bigglesworth: *shrug* i don't do either. |
| 03:19.46 | dabreegster | fbi: Which is worse, in your opinion? |
| 03:19.55 | fbi | probably wanking, more messy |
| 03:20.04 | sidiot | what mailing list should i be subscribed to if i'm running sid? |
| 03:20.06 | fbi | unless your girl is directly underneath you |
| 03:20.10 | dabreegster | But bash messes with your head. |
| 03:20.15 | Bigglesworth | fbi: what if you dont havea girl? |
| 03:20.24 | fbi | Bigglesworth: prostitutes. |
| 03:20.25 | Bigglesworth | WTF DID I DO THIS ROOM?!?!?!?! |
| 03:20.27 | XxX | i need driver for ProSavageDDR p4m266(A) |
| 03:20.38 | abrotman | !savage |
| 03:20.39 | dpkg | http://www.probo.com/timr/savage40.html |
| 03:20.42 | Daveman | hahah |
| 03:20.43 | abrotman | !unichrome |
| 03:20.43 | dpkg | somebody said unichrome was the graphics core found on many recent VIA chipsets. Namely, VIA CLE266, KM400/KN400, K8M800/K8N800, PM800/PM880/CN400. See http://unichrome.sf.net/ or bother libv. see <xorg sarge> |
| 03:20.47 | Daveman | calm down? |
| 03:20.51 | Daveman | eww |
| 03:20.54 | abrotman | i have no idea! ..stupid retarded chips! |
| 03:20.56 | Daveman | abrotman :( |
| 03:20.58 | *** join/#debian JayRCz (n=Jay@cpe-24-160-91-211.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 03:21.01 | Daveman | exactly! |
| 03:21.06 | Bigglesworth | Its like were on undernet and not freenode right now |
| 03:21.07 | Daveman | >:( |
| 03:21.08 | *** join/#debian Nosklo_ (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) |
| 03:21.14 | Daveman | haha |
| 03:21.19 | fbi | undernet heh is that shit still around? |
| 03:21.30 | Bigglesworth | fbi: Yea i went there today. |
| 03:21.38 | dabreegster | Daveman: Better yet, efnet |
| 03:21.43 | fbi | i remember back in the day when every packet kidding on efnet was dropping all the undernet servers |
| 03:21.51 | fbi | s/kidding/kiddie/ |
| 03:21.52 | Bigglesworth | sbi:its more off topic than this room right now |
| 03:22.04 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: Channel. Not room. |
| 03:22.04 | Daveman | dabreegster... |
| 03:22.11 | dabreegster | Daveman: What? |
| 03:22.21 | JayRCz | how do you search for files using nautilus? I've looked around, but I can't seem to find a definitive answer. |
| 03:22.25 | Daveman | I don't know, you tell me? :p |
| 03:22.36 | XxX | but the chipset p4m266(A)? |
| 03:23.01 | Bigglesworth | I want to learn some basic Linux commands. |
| 03:23.11 | Daveman | -_- |
| 03:23.11 | abrotman | !fundamentals |
| 03:23.11 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 03:23.12 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: Plan on being a command line junkie like me? |
| 03:23.13 | Daveman | rtfm? :) |
| 03:23.13 | Tortel | Get a book |
| 03:23.21 | Daveman | step 1: install linux |
| 03:23.23 | Daveman | :P |
| 03:23.32 | Tortel | step 2: get a book |
| 03:23.39 | Tortel | step 3: read |
| 03:23.41 | abrotman | i think that's backwards |
| 03:23.43 | dabreegster | Daveman: I read every book on *nix I could find while I was saving up for my 133. |
| 03:23.49 | Bigglesworth | breeg:yes, yes I do, bring a book for me tommorow if you have one, you know the one with commands in it |
| 03:23.51 | Guerin | what is this 'book' of which you speak? |
| 03:23.58 | dvs | hard to read without a book. ;-) |
| 03:24.01 | XxX | vt8751 |
| 03:24.03 | Bigglesworth | abrot: wait how do you read a book you dont have? |
| 03:24.09 | dabreegster | Bigglesworth: I have no book on Linux, but I can teach you by example. It's easier. |
| 03:24.10 | Guerin | dvs: not at all. |
| 03:24.11 | abrotman | Guerin: see those trees in your yard .. run them through a printer |
| 03:24.31 | Bigglesworth | abrot:I dont have any trees in my yeard whado I do know? |
| 03:24.32 | *** join/#debian alho (n=alho@201-25-203-214.fnsce701.dsl.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 03:24.33 | Guerin | *crunch* *splinter* |
| 03:24.36 | *** join/#debian Cyis (n=none-ya@theone.undergrid.net) |
| 03:24.44 | Guerin | abrotman: you owe me a printer! |
| 03:24.59 | abrotman | i do? |
| 03:25.05 | Guerin | (or you would, if my backyard had trees in it ... or if I had a backyard ... or a printer |
| 03:25.06 | Bigglesworth | guerin: by printer i think he meant something to the effect of printing press |
| 03:25.06 | Tortel | apartently |
| 03:25.08 | Guerin | ) |
| 03:25.13 | abrotman | Guerin: oh |
| 03:25.20 | dabreegster | Gotta go. Night everybody. |
| 03:25.27 | fbi | later |
| 03:25.29 | Guerin | Bigglesworth: i've worked with printing presses, and I'm fairly sure those would break if fed trees, too |
| 03:25.36 | ArtistAgent | peace |
| 03:25.51 | Bigglesworth | From now on my life mission is to get put up on Bash |
| 03:25.53 | Daveman | heh |
| 03:26.09 | *** join/#debian bwlang (n=bwlang@bb-66-55-211-238.gwi.net) |
| 03:26.09 | Bigglesworth | After i learn commands/become a command junkie |
| 03:26.26 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: i'm not on it .. and i say stupid shit constantly :) |
| 03:26.43 | bucky | heya Bigglesworth.. where's Dr Evil? |
| 03:26.47 | Bigglesworth | abrot: I say stupid shit all the time no matter if im on the pc o not |
| 03:26.47 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:26.48 | Tortel | i hate having to search for the exe |
| 03:27.00 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 03:27.00 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 03:27.02 | Bigglesworth | bucky: hahah havent heard that one in a good three years |
| 03:27.03 | abrotman | ok .. fine |
| 03:27.10 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:27.10 | dpkg | <ananke> erps : here. let me rub my crystal ball. <erps> ananke, awesome, can I borrow that? :) <ananke> erps : nope. company policy, we can't give away our crystall balls. <erps> ahhh :( But I assume you let special people rub them for you? <ananke> erps : you're not that special |
| 03:27.31 | Tortel | http://www.mbhs.edu/~aajohnso/img/dr%20evil%20linux%201600x1200.jpg |
| 03:27.35 | Tortel | Dr Evil! |
| 03:27.38 | madradrone | man whoever invented snow peas should get a nobel prize |
| 03:27.45 | abrotman | god ? |
| 03:27.49 | Bigglesworth | Who can make ascii good? |
| 03:27.54 | madradrone | yeah him |
| 03:27.55 | Guerin | madradrone: that would be God. he already has a few. |
| 03:28.05 | thingfish | yes, but I think it was chinese God. |
| 03:28.08 | Bigglesworth | I should try to jump like fifty cars with a steamroller. |
| 03:28.18 | bucky | Tortel, priceless |
| 03:28.21 | Tortel | :) |
| 03:28.36 | Cyis | these "unaligned access" messages from postgresql are annoying |
| 03:28.56 | *** join/#debian tree (n=user@qqq.rh.rit.edu) |
| 03:29.11 | Bigglesworth | My Honors Algebra I class is boring, were doing weighted averages... how boring. |
| 03:29.35 | Tortel | my algerbra 1 class is booring |
| 03:29.46 | abrotman | duh |
| 03:29.49 | Tortel | functions... |
| 03:29.49 | Bigglesworth | I'm in 8th grade taking a 9th honors though. |
| 03:29.55 | Tortel | ... =| ... |
| 03:30.04 | Tortel | im in 9th taking a 9th |
| 03:30.20 | freckledpenguin | I'm 33, taking 7th grade pre-algebra |
| 03:30.20 | Guerin | oh man |
| 03:30.28 | Guerin | we're talking about high skool here aren't we |
| 03:30.33 | Guerin | shouldn't you kids be in bed? |
| 03:30.38 | Tortel | i think so |
| 03:30.41 | dj_ryan | ok people, live worm in prod, anyone interested in hearing about it? |
| 03:30.41 | Tortel | yep |
| 03:30.43 | abrotman | Guerin: yes .. they are |
| 03:30.57 | bucky | Tortel, RMS cloned himself https://www.ututo.org/xp/modules/myalbum/photo.php?lid=85&cid=4 |
| 03:31.00 | Guerin | dj_ryan: does it affect debian? |
| 03:31.04 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: maybe you should try basic composition :) |
| 03:31.05 | Tortel | someone make an app that does homework already... |
| 03:31.06 | dj_ryan | yes |
| 03:31.07 | Bigglesworth | I think I.. OH LOOK A BUTTERFLY!.. hm oh wha? have ADD |
| 03:31.08 | dj_ryan | of course. |
| 03:31.19 | Guerin | dj_ryan: link |
| 03:31.28 | dj_ryan | this is on a live debian machine. i have a binary called 'lupii' which seems to have been broken in via www-data |
| 03:31.38 | freckledpenguin | anyone using amd64 of SID? |
| 03:31.40 | Guerin | dj_ryan: what makes you think it's a worm? |
| 03:31.43 | dj_ryan | Guerin, link to what? I JUST got access to this machine. |
| 03:31.53 | freckledpenguin | is it stable compared to i386? |
| 03:31.55 | Guerin | !anyone use amd64 of SID |
| 03:31.56 | Cyis | freckledpenguin: nope... etch/testing though |
| 03:31.58 | dpkg | No, no one uses amd64 of SID, not even the people who use it. |
| 03:31.59 | dj_ryan | because i have tcpdump packets of this thing making port 80 connections to sequential IPs |
| 03:32.06 | freckledpenguin | haha |
| 03:32.12 | freckledpenguin | thanks for the help...go to bed |
| 03:32.14 | Guerin | dj_ryan: that doesn't make it a worm ... that makes it a script |
| 03:32.33 | dj_ryan | well it seems to have the ability to infect futher computers |
| 03:32.50 | Bigglesworth | I feel retarded, can we talk about culinary arts or something? |
| 03:32.54 | dj_ryan | it has a script internally which instructs remote machines to retrieve a copy of the machine from an UP |
| 03:32.55 | dj_ryan | IP |
| 03:32.55 | abrotman | dj_ryan: did you tell debian-security@lists.debian.org ? or #apache ? |
| 03:32.59 | Guerin | dj_ryan: yeah, that sounds unpretty |
| 03:33.08 | Guerin | dj_ryan: what abrotman said |
| 03:33.13 | dj_ryan | not yet. this might be due to a zope installation though :-( |
| 03:33.29 | bucky | freckledpenguin, try #debian-amd64 |
| 03:33.35 | Tortel | is it safe to have port 80 open to all? |
| 03:33.44 | Guerin | dj_ryan: are you using any non-debian software that might be responsible? What branch of debian? |
| 03:33.48 | dusk | ggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg |
| 03:33.56 | Guerin | Tortel: 99% of webmasters think it is |
| 03:34.03 | Tortel | woo, good |
| 03:34.07 | dusk | cool |
| 03:34.10 | dusk | time to haxx0r tortel |
| 03:34.16 | dj_ryan | Guerin, i dont think so, and i am using 'stable' i think |
| 03:34.23 | Guerin | dusk: ssh, don't let on |
| 03:34.26 | abrotman | dj_ryan: and how do you know if you're infected ? |
| 03:34.27 | Bigglesworth | aioea8wet0945092380erfjl;adsfkjw4t-9rg4 |
| 03:34.27 | *** join/#debian corp-mule (n=corp-mul@pool-71-96-95-85.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 03:34.28 | Guerin | !think |
| 03:34.28 | dpkg | Don't think. KNOW. |
| 03:34.35 | abrotman | dj_ryan: anything in /tmp/ or anything ? |
| 03:34.37 | Bigglesworth | Sorry spider on keyboard. |
| 03:34.53 | corp-mule | oui |
| 03:34.54 | Tortel | !try |
| 03:34.54 | dpkg | Try not. Do. Or do not. There is no try. |
| 03:34.58 | corp-mule | this is frustrating |
| 03:34.59 | Tortel | :) |
| 03:35.11 | *** join/#debian bumpsh3r (n=wcj@wsip-68-110-129-70.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 03:35.17 | abrotman | dj_ryan: is your machien running a PHP web application ? |
| 03:35.17 | corp-mule | I boot up and nothing works ... segmetation fault |
| 03:35.29 | corp-mule | then I reboot and somethings kind of work |
| 03:35.30 | Guerin | corp-mule: run memtest86 |
| 03:35.33 | Bigglesworth | i think im going to kill my self |
| 03:35.36 | Bigglesworth | i need sleeeep |
| 03:35.39 | Guerin | corp-mule: for 24 hours or so |
| 03:35.40 | corp-mule | then I reboot again and everything works fine |
| 03:35.43 | corp-mule | :( |
| 03:35.51 | Guerin | Bigglesworth: do one or the other, just don't bug us about it |
| 03:35.58 | Tortel | dont turn your computer off |
| 03:36.01 | corp-mule | you thinking I might have bad mem? |
| 03:36.02 | bumpsh3r | at least it'll be quick n painless |
| 03:36.04 | dj_ryan | abrotman, YES I think its DRUPAL causing this |
| 03:36.13 | dj_ryan | DRUPAL is installed via apt-get so its part of debian. |
| 03:36.14 | dj_ryan | @#$@#$# |
| 03:36.20 | bumpsh3r | /me |
| 03:36.22 | *** join/#debian cat (n=cat@unaffiliated/cat) |
| 03:36.24 | abrotman | dj_ryan: http://www.wormblog.com/2005/11/new_worm_lupper.html |
| 03:36.32 | corp-mule | I just built this box |
| 03:36.40 | Guerin | dj_ryan: what makes you think it's drupal? Are there any DSAs about drupal on security.d.o? |
| 03:36.44 | corp-mule | new parts ... mainboard, proc and mem |
| 03:36.45 | abrotman | dj_ryan: so it's not a problem with aapche .. it's a remote hole in PHP .. which i think debian has already patched |
| 03:36.50 | abrotman | Guerin: read that URL |
| 03:36.57 | bumpsh3r | any know security vulnerabilities with Drupal? |
| 03:37.11 | dj_ryan | i stringed the worm |
| 03:37.15 | dj_ryan | and it has URLs it tries |
| 03:37.18 | Bigglesworth | Any oen know any faults with Windows? |
| 03:37.20 | dusk | bumpsher: the N word |
| 03:37.27 | Bigglesworth | Please don't hit me. |
| 03:37.28 | abrotman | dj_ryan: did you read that url ? |
| 03:37.28 | Guerin | that's it, I'm uninstalling everything php on my machine |
| 03:37.31 | Guerin | it's just too shit |
| 03:37.32 | dj_ryan | abrotman, i have that exact worm. |
| 03:37.33 | *** join/#debian firepoop (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 03:37.33 | dj_ryan | thanks! |
| 03:37.38 | firepoop | hey |
| 03:37.38 | abrotman | dj_ryan: enjoy |
| 03:37.48 | abrotman | Guerin: i think it was patched weeks ago |
| 03:37.49 | dj_ryan | thanks. |
| 03:37.53 | firepoop | what is that command to run the setup wizard thing |
| 03:38.04 | dj_ryan | thank god its not a remote root. |
| 03:38.10 | Bigglesworth | Well I deserved it, |
| 03:38.12 | firepoop | where it's like "what will you be using this computer for" or wahtever.. and you can chose for a desktop, file server, web server etc |
| 03:38.13 | dj_ryan | so my box is still ok. |
| 03:38.35 | Bigglesworth | RAPE! HELP! |
| 03:38.37 | abrotman | Guerin: http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-789 .. over 2 months ago |
| 03:38.38 | Bigglesworth | HEEEEEEEEEEEEEEELP! |
| 03:38.39 | *** join/#debian surfdue_ (i=surfdue@user-0c6s5d6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:38.42 | bumpsh3r | :s |
| 03:38.44 | Guerin | Bigglesworth: fuck off |
| 03:38.51 | Bigglesworth | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 03:38.52 | Guerin | Bigglesworth: you can fuck off too |
| 03:38.54 | Guerin | children |
| 03:38.56 | abrotman | Guerin: so if dj_ryan got infected .. it's not debian's fault |
| 03:39.00 | gravity | Ok, chll out |
| 03:39.00 | Bigglesworth | WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 03:39.03 | abrotman | Bigglesworth: STOP |
| 03:39.04 | gravity | Bigglesworth: Stop it |
| 03:39.05 | dusk | hey, this isnt AOL teens |
| 03:39.07 | firepoop | anyone please |
| 03:39.09 | *** part/#debian surfdue_ (i=surfdue@user-0c6s5d6.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 03:39.12 | firepoop | ?? :-/ |
| 03:39.13 | Bigglesworth | I forgot to take my Adorol |
| 03:39.20 | thingfish | it's adderal |
| 03:39.20 | bumpsh3r | wow |
| 03:39.20 | dusk | go take it |
| 03:39.22 | abrotman | firepoop: change your nick |
| 03:39.23 | bumpsh3r | such hostility |
| 03:39.23 | Guerin | abrotman: no ... it's his fault first and php's fault second |
| 03:39.28 | *** join/#debian cappicard (n=cappicar@CPE-72-129-239-219.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 03:39.29 | dusk | while you're at it, shut your computer off |
| 03:39.30 | firepoop | abrotman: o_O |
| 03:39.30 | Bigglesworth | It's too late to take it |
| 03:39.32 | Guerin | bumpsh3r: such retardedness |
| 03:39.33 | abrotman | Guerin: yes .. but it was patched |
| 03:39.34 | bumpsh3r | firepoop???!!! |
| 03:39.38 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 03:39.45 | abrotman | !lol |
| 03:39.45 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 03:39.46 | nyingen | lame |
| 03:39.54 | Bigglesworth | Heh |
| 03:39.57 | nyingen | dpkg: omg wtf lol! |
| 03:40.03 | dj_ryan | keeping up the the installs have been challenging for me since i am half upgraded and half not. |
| 03:40.06 | abrotman | Fietronic: better .. i guess |
| 03:40.07 | bumpsh3r | hey dpkg |
| 03:40.08 | Bigglesworth | nyi:OMG WTF LOL WOOT |
| 03:40.09 | *** join/#debian Nurbs_ (i=tom@p50895ECB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 03:40.11 | bumpsh3r | _||_ |
| 03:40.14 | abrotman | Fietronic: which setup |
| 03:40.15 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 03:40.20 | Bigglesworth | Psh, |
| 03:40.20 | dj_ryan | what i am happy about is its only a www-data hole |
| 03:40.29 | Fietronic | what is the command that brings up the dialog that let's you choose what type of packages to isntall |
| 03:40.31 | abrotman | dj_ryan: no it's not .. it's a PHP hole |
| 03:40.32 | Bigglesworth | Whats wrong with AOL? I occasionally use it. |
| 03:40.36 | thingfish | Bigglesworth: you're conducting yourself shamfully. Shape up, please, and act a gentelman. |
| 03:40.38 | Fietronic | there are like 5 options... desktop, web server, file server.. etc |
| 03:40.40 | thingfish | *gentleman |
| 03:40.42 | colby | Fietronic: try tasksel |
| 03:40.47 | dj_ryan | abrotman, wha ti mean is the worm only gets access to user 'www-data' not root. |
| 03:40.51 | dusk | bigglesworth: get out |
| 03:40.53 | Fietronic | hmm |
| 03:40.57 | Fietronic | that's it! |
| 03:41.01 | fbi | !beer dusk |
| 03:41.01 | Fietronic | thanks colby :D |
| 03:41.02 | abrotman | dj_ryan: http://www.debian.org/security/2005/dsa-789 |
| 03:41.04 | mtnman | !aol |
| 03:41.05 | dpkg | i guess aol is for people who dont know the highway from the driveway, or army of losers. They are teaming up with Sony to fight |
| 03:41.07 | colby | np Fietronic :o) |
| 03:41.18 | fbi | i think it's time for a spliff |
| 03:41.25 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:41.34 | *** join/#debian burt (n=burt@68-118-102-19.dhcp.kgpt.tn.charter.com) |
| 03:41.37 | bumpsh3r | hey the fbi's smoking pot |
| 03:41.44 | bumpsh3r | someone arrest him!! |
| 03:41.47 | Fietronic | now does anyone know the lilo command to boot linux as root so you can change your password? lo |
| 03:41.47 | Fietronic | l |
| 03:41.57 | Guerin | gravity: can you ban these fuckwits? |
| 03:42.00 | abrotman | you dn't remember root's password ? |
| 03:42.05 | gravity | Guerin: /ignore |
| 03:42.06 | abrotman | !tell Fietronic about ifrp |
| 03:42.09 | Guerin | Fietronic: /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 03:42.20 | bumpsh3r | dpkg: Yuengling??...go for a real beer, drink some Guinness |
| 03:42.21 | Guerin | gravity: that doesn't solve the problem |
| 03:42.26 | Fietronic | abrotman: i wasn't really asking that.. i'm just going to google it |
| 03:42.28 | abrotman | yuengling is just fine |
| 03:42.32 | sidiot | could someone recommend a good rss client for gnome? |
| 03:42.37 | thc | bumpsh3r: don't be talking shit about y-l |
| 03:42.39 | fcc | MY friend accidentally set his recovery questing as "What is your password?" |
| 03:42.43 | thc | i'll bust a cap in yo' ass |
| 03:42.44 | Guerin | Fietronic: change the lilo commands, hold shift on boot |
| 03:42.44 | *** join/#debian analiser (i=local@201.211.160.229) |
| 03:42.48 | bumpsh3r | muahahahaha |
| 03:42.59 | abrotman | though somehow . i doubt bumpsh3r is old enough to drink legally |
| 03:43.17 | fcc | I can drink legally, in Russia. |
| 03:43.22 | bumpsh3r | abrotman: you would have no clue as to how old I am |
| 03:43.23 | gravity | sidiot: liferea is nice |
| 03:43.25 | Fietronic | i can drink legally.. in canada |
| 03:43.38 | abrotman | bumpsh3r: i know they don't sell much Yuengling in Georgia |
| 03:43.41 | fcc | Can we talk about food now? |
| 03:43.44 | sidiot | hmm... |
| 03:44.05 | bumpsh3r | just because you can whois me...doesn't mean I'm in GA abrotman |
| 03:44.21 | bumpsh3r | heh |
| 03:44.26 | abrotman | right .. and you obviously don't know anything about beer |
| 03:44.32 | Guerin | can you all please fuck off to #teenchat now? |
| 03:44.39 | bumpsh3r | I bet I could drink you under the table |
| 03:44.47 | abrotman | wow .. #debian-kernel is worthless |
| 03:44.52 | abrotman | haha .. drink me under the table |
| 03:44.58 | thingfish | hehe |
| 03:45.10 | fcc | Night channel! I'm sleepy and now i need to give my fingers a rest. |
| 03:45.10 | bumpsh3r | you're talking to an x-bartender abortman |
| 03:45.12 | thingfish | said like a man who's had a few. |
| 03:45.15 | abrotman | some call it a hobby .. it's actually a passion for me :) |
| 03:45.19 | bumpsh3r | I used to do a lot of drinking |
| 03:45.19 | thingfish | me too! |
| 03:45.21 | abrotman | bumpsh3r: i don't care what you were |
| 03:45.30 | thingfish | I used to manage a bar. |
| 03:45.32 | bumpsh3r | get off it lame a55 |
| 03:45.42 | abrotman | wait .. i'm arguing with a loser .. |
| 03:45.44 | thingfish | it was a blast. |
| 03:45.45 | abrotman | *plonk* |
| 03:45.47 | bumpsh3r | you've got no reason to sit here and attack me |
| 03:46.07 | abrotman | ah .. it was empty for so long |
| 03:46.08 | bumpsh3r | ohhh you're so coooooool |
| 03:46.14 | Guerin | bumpsh3r: except that you're a raving fucktard who's ofeensively, childishly offtopic |
| 03:46.16 | bumpsh3r | you can throw insults in a chatroom |
| 03:46.24 | liable | bumpsh3r: how about you calm down and shut the fuck up for a while? |
| 03:46.33 | Fietronic | hey... am i suposed to boot from cd to do the pass recover? |
| 03:46.36 | bumpsh3r | how about kiss my a55 |
| 03:46.43 | abrotman | why the hell did -kernel move to oftc ? |
| 03:46.44 | Guerin | Fietronic: not necessarily. |
| 03:46.45 | Biggelsworth | Wow he uses leet! |
| 03:46.57 | thingfish | how in the world do we get these types in here. |
| 03:46.58 | gravity | Guerin: Calm down please |
| 03:46.58 | Biggelsworth | He just lost all respect he had for me. |
| 03:47.04 | Fietronic | Guerin: i do init=/bin/sh and it says "No such image [Tab] shows a list |
| 03:47.06 | bumpsh3r | yall are lame a55es just looking to attack someone |
| 03:47.07 | Fietronic | " |
| 03:47.13 | gravity | bumpsh3r: Calm down please |
| 03:47.15 | Guerin | gravity: give over; i'm not the one being a fucking child. |
| 03:47.27 | gravity | Guerin: I don't care. Stop making the situation worse. |
| 03:47.36 | Guerin | gravity: you could make the situation better... |
| 03:47.38 | mtnman | don't feed the troll |
| 03:47.40 | bumpsh3r | w0w, someone with maturity... |
| 03:47.42 | abrotman | or just kick him |
| 03:47.53 | gravity | bumpsh3r: If you keep this up, you'll be +q'ed. Got it? |
| 03:47.57 | gravity | That goes for everyone else. |
| 03:48.11 | bumpsh3r | fine with me |
| 03:48.25 | Fietronic | i need to learn how to read |
| 03:48.26 | Fietronic | lol |
| 03:48.40 | abrotman | !be a reading barbie |
| 03:48.41 | dpkg | Aww, reading is hard! Let's go shopping, abrotman |
| 03:48.54 | bigglesworth | What are blind icons? I just had a pop up asking me if I wanted to switch to them |
| 03:49.09 | abrotman | bigglesworth: google .. it's not a debian issue |
| 03:49.26 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 03:49.32 | corp-mule | memtest installs in the /boot dir, is this something that's run at boot time. |
| 03:49.36 | bigglesworth | I should tell dad thats my reason to switch to Linux, for windows asking me retarded questions |
| 03:49.45 | corp-mule | my browser wont open or I'd look it up |
| 03:49.48 | thingfish | corp-mule: yes, you have to boot to it. |
| 03:49.51 | corp-mule | firefox wont' open |
| 03:49.52 | CompWizrd | corp-mule: you'll have a lilo(grub?) prompt that will let you select memtest on startup |
| 03:49.58 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 03:50.00 | corp-mule | grug |
| 03:50.04 | corp-mule | grub |
| 03:50.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 732] by debhelper |
| 03:50.08 | corp-mule | k |
| 03:50.09 | *** join/#debian CristianoSehn (n=t7DS@200.242.85.142) |
| 03:50.29 | dj_ryan | ok so my system is sarge. |
| 03:50.38 | abrotman | but was it patched ? |
| 03:50.52 | Cyis | dj_ryan: but do you update from security.d.o? |
| 03:51.06 | dj_ryan | of course not. |
| 03:51.11 | abrotman | Guerin: see! |
| 03:51.11 | Cyis | silly lemming |
| 03:51.20 | dj_ryan | its a mythbox and i've been having issues with it. |
| 03:51.23 | Cyis | no cookie for you |
| 03:51.23 | Fietronic | is there a configuration utility for startup processes in debian? |
| 03:51.27 | dj_ryan | its highly firewalled so hey. |
| 03:51.29 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 03:51.40 | abrotman | dj_ryan: that's nice .. for stuff that isn't open to the intarweb |
| 03:51.52 | abrotman | dj_ryan: and for that matter .. why is your mythtv box open to the internet ? |
| 03:52.11 | abrotman | and running drupal |
| 03:52.22 | dj_ryan | it runs web too. |
| 03:52.28 | abrotman | wait . it's running KDE too isn't it ? |
| 03:52.44 | dj_ryan | ok well i am not getting 4.3.10-16 |
| 03:52.47 | dj_ryan | of php4 |
| 03:52.49 | Cyis | abrotman: dealing with a CTK error here |
| 03:52.52 | dj_ryan | im getting 4.3.10-15 |
| 03:52.59 | Fietronic | well i would if i could log in |
| 03:52.59 | abrotman | CTK ? |
| 03:53.00 | Fietronic | fux |
| 03:53.05 | *** join/#debian lawn (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 03:53.12 | abrotman | chair to keyboard |
| 03:53.14 | abrotman | duh |
| 03:53.22 | Cyis | abrotman: you know... where the prolem lies between the chair to keyboard |
| 03:53.27 | abrotman | PEBCAK |
| 03:53.39 | Cyis | PEBCAK works too :) |
| 03:53.45 | mtnman | pebkac |
| 03:53.52 | abrotman | whichever |
| 03:54.01 | mtnman | (keyboard and chair) |
| 03:54.04 | abrotman | yeah yeah |
| 03:54.07 | dj_ryan | ok so the fix is not in main repo |
| 03:54.15 | abrotman | yes it is .. using security |
| 03:54.30 | abrotman | there has been no 3.1r1 released yet |
| 03:54.30 | Cyis | djace: not if you run stable... fixes for stable are in security |
| 03:54.39 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@ool-18bd5854.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:55.00 | Fietronic | well that would explain why i cant login with fietronic |
| 03:55.03 | diana | I have a kernel.deb file...I made it with make-kpkg kernel_image...what is the best way to install it? |
| 03:55.08 | Fietronic | user dosn't exist |
| 03:55.10 | abrotman | diana: man dpkg |
| 03:55.10 | Cyis | I love people that run stable for forget about security updates |
| 03:55.13 | diana | This kernel.deb is the same kernel version that I am running now. |
| 03:55.26 | roral | diana: dpkg -i kernel.deb |
| 03:55.26 | diana | Just --over-write? |
| 03:55.36 | diana | roral it's the same kernel I'm running now |
| 03:55.40 | Cyis | s/for/but/ |
| 03:55.45 | poh | diana, recreate it with a new --append-to-version |
| 03:55.55 | abrotman | Cyis: i can see how you might mistype that |
| 03:56.02 | poh | and then dpkg -i ... |
| 03:56.03 | diana | poh: "recreate" what does that mean? |
| 03:56.14 | poh | diana make-kpkg again |
| 03:56.23 | abrotman | rerun make-kpkg .. but use --append-to-version |
| 03:56.30 | diana | poh: That command took 3 hours |
| 03:56.35 | diana | I don'tt want too do it again. |
| 03:56.38 | *** join/#debian manu (n=manu@202.56.249.12) |
| 03:56.47 | *** part/#debian gdub (n=gdub@d207-81-76-176.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:56.56 | diana | How can I just overwrite and install the kernel? |
| 03:57.03 | abrotman | diana: it's highly recommended .. vs overwriting the current one |
| 03:57.14 | abrotman | or compile less stuff |
| 03:57.14 | diana | abrotman: i have a backup if this fucks up |
| 03:57.16 | thingfish | boy really |
| 03:57.28 | CristianoSehn | I'm crazyyyyy |
| 03:57.34 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: put it on your amazon wishlist! |
| 03:57.40 | *** join/#debian Dragon_Fire (n=U-235@171.41.atm.restel.net) |
| 03:57.41 | diana | --force-overwrite/? |
| 03:57.48 | abrotman | that's one way |
| 03:57.59 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: I already own it, actually... |
| 03:58.02 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:58.02 | Cyis | I love compiling kernels on my dual 2.4Ghz Xeon with 2GB RAM at work... takes no time at all |
| 03:58.08 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: a discussion in -devel leaked over here... |
| 03:58.18 | *** join/#debian jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 03:58.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ah .. ok |
| 03:58.23 | thingfish | Cyis: what, like about 20 minutes maybe? |
| 03:58.24 | diana | i did dpkg -i --force-overwrite kernel.deb |
| 03:58.28 | diana | I'm going to reboot wish mme luck. |
| 03:58.29 | Cyis | thingfish: 15-20 |
| 03:58.34 | poh | good luck |
| 03:58.37 | Fietronic | i'm sorry guys.. what was the command to edit startup stuff again? |
| 03:58.44 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
| 03:58.48 | poh | Fietronic: vi? |
| 03:58.50 | Fietronic | thanks, sorry about that |
| 03:58.53 | Cyis | I compile my kernels for home at work and transfer them to USB pendrive :) |
| 03:59.04 | Fietronic | poh: not inittab? |
| 03:59.10 | liable | Cyis: what? my laptop does it in 12 minutes... |
| 03:59.14 | *** part/#debian CristianoSehn (n=t7DS@200.242.85.142) |
| 03:59.18 | CompWizrd | 2.6, i take it, and not 2.4? |
| 03:59.24 | CompWizrd | because i vaguely remember 2.4 being about 4 minutes |
| 03:59.30 | liable | yes 2.6 |
| 03:59.42 | Cyis | liable: I' |
| 03:59.54 | Cyis | liable: I'd have to run it through time next time... that was my vague recall |
| 04:00.04 | *** part/#debian poh (n=patrick@cpe-72-224-57-206.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:00.04 | Cyis | I don't recompile kernels all that often |
| 04:00.12 | *** join/#debian Neerlan_Amorim (n=t7DS@200.242.85.142) |
| 04:01.12 | liable | Cyis: would be interested, you must compile a shitload of modules.. |
| 04:02.06 | Cyis | liable: I do tend to do the "kitchen sink" approach and compile a lot of modules... I basically compile for each arch we have so I include all the modules to make it easy |
| 04:02.12 | liable | yay, finally it might rain. |
| 04:02.31 | *** join/#debian ClamIAm (i=josh@bowmanj.campus.augsburg.edu) |
| 04:02.31 | Fietronic | is "atd" apple talk daemon? |
| 04:02.36 | abrotman | no |
| 04:02.37 | Fietronic | i dont need apple talk do i? |
| 04:02.39 | abrotman | at daemon |
| 04:02.48 | Cyis | atalkd is appletalk |
| 04:02.50 | abrotman | used with the at command |
| 04:02.53 | abrotman | !at |
| 04:02.54 | dpkg | methinks at is a Delayed job execution and batch processing program or an old IBM computer. |
| 04:02.56 | *** join/#debian Rounin (n=david@fjb-dhcp120.studby.uio.no) |
| 04:03.03 | Fietronic | there is no entry in init.d for atalkd |
| 04:03.09 | Fietronic | but appletalk is starting at boot |
| 04:03.14 | Rounin | Hello... I've installed Debian testing, but where is "startx"? |
| 04:03.16 | abrotman | it's a kernel module .. |
| 04:03.24 | Fietronic | o-O |
| 04:03.27 | *** join/#debian golly (n=chatzill@230.87.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 04:03.28 | Fietronic | hmm |
| 04:03.29 | abrotman | Rounin: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 04:03.37 | ClamIAm | there's a weird dependency problem with the version of lilypond in testing...what should I do? |
| 04:03.37 | Fietronic | i dont need atalk do i? |
| 04:03.42 | Rounin | But I already installed XFCE4, doesn't that depend on X? |
| 04:03.44 | Fietronic | that's like for printing or something isn't it? |
| 04:03.49 | abrotman | ClamIAm: wait a few days ? |
| 04:04.01 | Rounin | Perhaps it doesn't to satisfy people who use DirectFB, haha |
| 04:04.05 | Rounin | Well, thanks, abrotman |
| 04:04.05 | *** join/#debian klock (n=klock@ppp-70-225-74-230.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net) |
| 04:04.08 | ClamIAm | abrotman, that's what i was figuring :P |
| 04:04.09 | abrotman | Rounin: not for a desktop .. because it has everything it needs to run remotely |
| 04:04.09 | *** join/#debian TasteOfDeath (n=tod@i53874245.versanet.de) |
| 04:04.13 | *** join/#debian DangerouS (n=dangerou@200.37.73.20) |
| 04:04.26 | sidiot | how can i tell if a package is installed from command line? apt-cache show package? |
| 04:04.36 | abrotman | dpkg -l <package> |
| 04:04.38 | thc | sidiot: dpkg -l <packagename> |
| 04:04.39 | dpkg | ii <package> 3.5-1.1 abrotman's private gamp collection |
| 04:04.39 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 04:04.40 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 04:04.43 | gravity | apt-cache policy package |
| 04:04.44 | thc | haha |
| 04:04.51 | abrotman | i knew it was coming |
| 04:04.59 | Daveman | :P |
| 04:05.02 | ClamIAm | haha |
| 04:05.09 | Daveman | basically ;) |
| 04:05.28 | thc | abrotman: you buy your gimps on ebay? |
| 04:05.31 | thc | err |
| 04:05.32 | thc | gamps |
| 04:05.38 | thc | wtf is a gamp anyway |
| 04:05.46 | abrotman | no .. gnaa.net or whatever it is |
| 04:05.47 | abrotman | !gamp |
| 04:05.48 | dpkg | Gay Asian Midget Pr0n! |
| 04:05.50 | jbroome | i dunno, but i don't want a used gimp. |
| 04:05.57 | jbroome | dunno where its been |
| 04:06.04 | roral | a gnome2 audio player |
| 04:06.04 | liable | haha |
| 04:06.07 | *** join/#debian biohazrd (n=biohazrd@c-67-169-253-207.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:06.09 | thc | jbroome: as opposed to a used gimp? and what is the difference |
| 04:06.17 | thc | a gimp is a gimp is a gimp. |
| 04:06.18 | bumpsh3r | wow, getting off tpoic in here |
| 04:06.27 | thc | bumpsh3r: nothing gets by you, eh? |
| 04:06.29 | jbroome | i buy my gimps new. and make them do my debian installs. |
| 04:06.30 | abrotman | !gampsmack thc |
| 04:06.35 | Xenguy | dangerously OT ;-) |
| 04:06.43 | thc | i don't know why i never see what dpkg does on those triggers |
| 04:06.49 | thc | does it use notice or something? |
| 04:06.57 | abrotman | thc: no .. you have it ignored ? |
| 04:06.59 | Cyis | OMFG... too funny |
| 04:07.09 | thc | nah, but i do ignore a lot of channel stuff |
| 04:07.13 | Fietronic | going for foods brb |
| 04:07.19 | *** join/#debian Vilerage (i=rage@cpe-24-95-59-142.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 04:07.19 | roral | CTCP actions, ie. /me |
| 04:07.27 | thc | ah i have ctcp ignored |
| 04:07.54 | bumpsh3r | where'd gravity go...and y am I floating around? |
| 04:07.58 | Cyis | I guess being smacked upside the head with a gay midget beat a trout |
| 04:08.21 | bumpsh3r | a 50lb linux manual would be even better |
| 04:08.24 | liable | whatver floats your boat.. |
| 04:09.01 | abrotman | !punish thc |
| 04:09.04 | Cyis | bumpsh3r: for the die hards :) |
| 04:09.05 | abrotman | doh .. |
| 04:09.07 | abrotman | wrong punish |
| 04:09.16 | abrotman | oh wait .. maybe it's like ... |
| 04:09.21 | bumpsh3r | ;) |
| 04:09.22 | abrotman | !punish thc for being thc |
| 04:09.38 | thc | yarrrrrr! |
| 04:09.42 | thc | !pirate |
| 04:09.42 | dpkg | somebody said pirate was a robber and murderer in international waters. See <http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/words-to-avoid.html#Piracy> |
| 04:09.48 | abrotman | hah |
| 04:09.52 | bumpsh3r | someone restore gravity pls |
| 04:10.14 | thc | bumpsh3r: gravity is probably busy, i'd advise you stop saying his nick in here |
| 04:10.29 | *** join/#debian fabienZ_ (n=fabien@AMontpellier-251-1-25-84.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 04:10.39 | bumpsh3r | y stop saying his nick thc? |
| 04:10.41 | abrotman | thc: don't do that |
| 04:10.47 | thc | eh? |
| 04:10.55 | abrotman | let him piss off the ops |
| 04:11.02 | thc | oh. |
| 04:11.03 | dusk | i pirate |
| 04:11.11 | bumpsh3r | saying gravity is going to piss him off? |
| 04:11.26 | *** join/#debian LSorensen (n=lsorense@CPE00c049ec3e35-CM0012c99eb150.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:11.44 | abrotman | xorg is a broken pile of crap! |
| 04:11.51 | bumpsh3r | he does come across as the type of guy that expects people to walk on eggshells |
| 04:11.51 | thc | whoa. |
| 04:12.01 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:12.11 | bumpsh3r | even if he did...i wouldn't |
| 04:12.18 | bumpsh3r | so yeah abrotman... |
| 04:12.20 | bumpsh3r | heh |
| 04:12.32 | *** join/#debian bastian (n=blaster2@200-126-120-199.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl) |
| 04:12.35 | gravity | abrotman: Pretty much, yeah. |
| 04:12.49 | abrotman | gravity: hehe .. it's actually no better/worse than xfree was for me |
| 04:13.07 | gravity | Doesn't make it any less a pile |
| 04:13.07 | bastian | sex blaster27@hotmail.com web cams |
| 04:13.09 | dusk | cept no games |
| 04:13.11 | dusk | ! |
| 04:13.19 | abrotman | gravity: though .. i haven't tried GL screensavers yet |
| 04:13.28 | liable | gravity: ^^ bastian |
| 04:13.33 | *** join/#debian JochenA (n=jochen@pdpc/supporter/student/JochenA) |
| 04:13.36 | abrotman | bastian: what was that ? |
| 04:13.41 | *** part/#debian biohazrd (n=biohazrd@c-67-169-253-207.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 04:13.45 | *** join/#debian Rounin (n=david@fjb-dhcp120.studby.uio.no) |
| 04:13.48 | bumpsh3r | especially some of the defaults in kde |
| 04:13.50 | bastian | yeahh |
| 04:13.54 | thc | i guess he wants us to email him some porn |
| 04:14.02 | bumpsh3r | can anyone tell me a place to find kde savers that have been ported to gnome? |
| 04:14.02 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 04:14.12 | Rounin | Hello again! I'm using XFCE4 now, and the mouse pointer is moving terribly slow... However, there doesn't seem to be an applet to set the mouse speed |
| 04:14.14 | abrotman | they're just xscreensavers afaik ... |
| 04:14.15 | Rounin | Can anyone think of one? |
| 04:14.27 | bumpsh3r | not the ones in kde.... |
| 04:14.35 | abrotman | kde has special screensavers ? |
| 04:14.40 | bumpsh3r | I think |
| 04:14.42 | thc | Rounin: that only happens in xfce4? |
| 04:14.52 | abrotman | why does KDE get worse every day :) |
| 04:14.58 | *** join/#debian thingfis1 (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.227.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 04:14.58 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: entropy. |
| 04:15.07 | *** part/#debian bastian (n=blaster2@200-126-120-199.bk8-dsl.surnet.cl) |
| 04:15.16 | Rounin | In X in general I suppose, thc |
| 04:15.20 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: soon it will rival windows in the depths of craptitude that it decends to. |
| 04:15.31 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 04:15.42 | dondelelcaro | (and gnome isn't falling behind in that race either...) |
| 04:15.46 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: just wait .. it will be the great vi vs emacs of the 21st century .. which sucks more ... KDE4 or Windows Vista :) |
| 04:16.08 | bumpsh3r | this probably isn't the place to say it...but you have to admit..windows is just plain user friendly |
| 04:16.12 | Rounin | So anyone know how to increas the mouse speed? I thought XFCE had an applet that did htat |
| 04:16.26 | *** join/#debian jixor- (n=noemail@c220-237-53-233.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 04:16.29 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: almost the antithesis of that battle... |
| 04:16.39 | abrotman | i wish gnome would stop changing backend stuffs |
| 04:16.52 | bumpsh3r | don't know how in XFCE but I just edit my xorg file to speed up the mouse (beyond what the gui will allow) |
| 04:16.59 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: it could be worse, it could be gnustep. |
| 04:17.11 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: sssshh .. tarzeau will hear you :) |
| 04:17.12 | Rounin | How do you do that then, bumpsh3r? Or, rather, what setting do you change? |
| 04:17.28 | bumpsh3r | for mine, since I use a touchpad on a laptop |
| 04:17.36 | bumpsh3r | hold on, I'll paste you some settings |
| 04:17.39 | bumpsh3r | pastebin |
| 04:17.43 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:17.43 | *** join/#debian mgl_tonight (n=guntur@202.95.134.246) |
| 04:17.55 | *** part/#debian mgl_tonight (n=guntur@202.95.134.246) |
| 04:18.14 | *** join/#debian aniline (n=user@fyodor.hcoop.net) |
| 04:19.37 | *** join/#debian blockd (n=blockd@69.158.15.74) |
| 04:20.23 | *** join/#debian thc (i=is@5150.to) |
| 04:20.28 | thc | that was odd |
| 04:20.43 | jixor- | im having trouble getting a systems hostname to work, it is aquire ip and such from dns no worries but thinking maybe its not broardcast hostname |
| 04:23.03 | Daveman | :o |
| 04:23.41 | *** join/#debian sidd (n=sidd@dsl-92.170.240.220.dsl.comindico.com.au) |
| 04:24.06 | CompWizrd | i did a woody to sarge upgrade, and it only took a few hours, very impressive |
| 04:24.08 | jjazz | Is there anything special I need to know to move from oss to alsa? Is it as simple as apt-get install alsa-base? |
| 04:24.11 | CompWizrd | mostly getting xamime to work with postfix |
| 04:24.32 | CompWizrd | sendmail was broken, it was adding .'s to any line starting with a . |
| 04:24.34 | jjazz | (I'm on testing, if that matters) |
| 04:24.49 | *** join/#debian ryan` (n=foo@adsl-67-125-0-46.dsl.scrm01.pacbell.net) |
| 04:24.52 | *** join/#debian Fracture (n=Fracture@dsl-202-173-191-84.qld.westnet.com.au) |
| 04:25.05 | thingfish | jjazz: yes, that should be it. |
| 04:25.11 | jjazz | thingfish, thank you |
| 04:25.15 | Cyis | grr.. this hppa kernel bug is erking me |
| 04:25.24 | gravity | Wow. An hppa user. |
| 04:25.28 | ryan` | I'm getting a lot of Unresolved symbols errors trying to build 2.6.12 on woody with make-kpkg.... |
| 04:25.31 | Daveman | heh |
| 04:25.36 | sidd | anyone know the best filesystem to use if i want to be able to read/write from both linux and windows? |
| 04:25.42 | Cyis | gravity: actually I have two hppa machines operating here |
| 04:25.52 | thc | jjazz: you also need a 2.6 kernel, or alsa-modules for your 2.4 |
| 04:25.58 | ryan` | mostly iptables realted stuff |
| 04:26.00 | Cyis | I also have an SGI O2 MIPS box at work |
| 04:26.05 | ryan` | and zlib |
| 04:26.08 | gravity | Nifty |
| 04:26.10 | thingfish | ooh I knew I should've said something about 2.6 kernel. |
| 04:26.18 | jjazz | thc, Yes, I'm on 2.6.8. Thanks. |
| 04:26.33 | *** join/#debian stumbles (n=stumbles@220-253-37-39.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 04:26.35 | CompWizrd | i had to toss our extra rs/6000 out, was too old for linux :/ |
| 04:26.42 | litage | what's an MD device? (in reference to software raid arrays) |
| 04:26.47 | Cyis | retired my Motorola RISC-PC (604e PPC) and Dec Alpha machines |
| 04:26.52 | thc | !tell litage about md |
| 04:26.54 | Daveman | :P |
| 04:27.06 | jjazz | I did the apt-get install. Do I need to do anything special to make it use ALSA instead of OSS? Or is that handled automagically behind the scenes? I noticed apt-get didn't remove and oss packages. |
| 04:27.08 | Daveman | dec alphas! |
| 04:27.09 | Daveman | \o/ |
| 04:27.09 | thc | wow, that's a pretty informative factoid |
| 04:27.21 | Cyis | and my i486 was retired when the harddrive went out... figured it was too hard to find a small harddrive that would work in a 486 |
| 04:27.23 | Daveman | thc, wow that's pretty ironic, wouldn't you say? ;) |
| 04:27.28 | thc | indeed |
| 04:27.31 | sidd | im using windows xp sp2, so i cant use ext2 IFS. |
| 04:27.40 | Daveman | cyis, did you have those ISA hdds? :P |
| 04:27.42 | Daveman | hahaha |
| 04:27.43 | bumpsh3r | jjazz: I'm not sure but I think the kernel has to be compiled for alsa.... ? |
| 04:27.53 | *** join/#debian roler (n=a@ip68-225-229-99.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 04:27.53 | Daveman | CirrusLogic > * |
| 04:27.55 | CompWizrd | Cyis: i had a pair of 200 ide's on a p75 once... |
| 04:28.04 | bumpsh3r | can anyone confirm that? |
| 04:28.05 | roler | i installed the package php4-curl and php still does not have curl support. can someone help? |
| 04:28.07 | thc | bumpsh3r: 2.4 kernels can be patched, 2.6 have alsa drivers built in |
| 04:28.14 | litage | thanks thc |
| 04:28.18 | thc | no problem |
| 04:28.21 | CompWizrd | 200 gig, that is |
| 04:28.28 | bumpsh3r | ahh ok |
| 04:28.31 | Cyis | The Dec had a 2.5" 340MB harddrive :) |
| 04:28.47 | CompWizrd | my 286/12 had a 105 meg toshiba scsi.. it still works, and it's been 15 years now |
| 04:28.54 | ryan` | Cyis: As long as you have /boot at the beginning of the HDD... linux handles things just fine... It does not use the bios after the kernel loads. |
| 04:28.57 | CompWizrd | i used it as a swap drive in my 486 for awhile |
| 04:29.00 | litage | is there a recommended "software raid in debian" guide? |
| 04:29.01 | Cyis | ran like a champ... 'course it also ran like a space heater :) |
| 04:29.17 | thc | jjazz: you may want to confirm that there are no oss modules floating around, i ran into that once before when switching to alsa |
| 04:29.23 | CompWizrd | Cyis: 8.7 gig micropolis drives. those were space heaters! |
| 04:29.31 | CompWizrd | i melted a friends floor mat with one of them |
| 04:29.34 | jjazz | thc, how might I do that? |
| 04:29.38 | CompWizrd | he was impressed enough with that to not be upset. |
| 04:29.45 | thc | one sec i have a call |
| 04:29.46 | bumpsh3r | wow...105MB is bad enough.but 105 SCSI ? who ever needed scsi for 105 MBs ? |
| 04:29.53 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 04:30.15 | CompWizrd | bumpsh3r: it was back when most people had 20 meg .. hmm.... was there even IDE back then? :) |
| 04:30.21 | CompWizrd | 20 meg mfm/rll's |
| 04:30.38 | CompWizrd | think it was about 600 bucks |
| 04:30.40 | *** join/#debian jeg_ (n=user@i216-58-17-42.cybersurf.com) |
| 04:30.44 | CompWizrd | with the 8 bit isa scsi card |
| 04:31.01 | Cyis | CompWizrd: full-height 4.5GB Seagate Narrow SCSI drives :) |
| 04:31.08 | CompWizrd | hawk 4xl's? |
| 04:31.10 | Cyis | not only run hot... run loud :) |
| 04:31.11 | CompWizrd | oh, full height |
| 04:31.14 | CompWizrd | yeah, nice |
| 04:31.31 | CompWizrd | i ahd a 340 meg scsi drive that was full height |
| 04:31.33 | Cyis | I've still got 17 full-height 4.5GB Seagates :) |
| 04:31.40 | CompWizrd | raid0! |
| 04:31.47 | CompWizrd | i had a 10 drive raid0 setup on netware 3.12 at one point |
| 04:31.52 | CompWizrd | no idea how i never lost anything |
| 04:32.01 | rr72 | netware sux |
| 04:32.02 | bumpsh3r | maybe all this stuff will be considered antiques some day and be worth millions |
| 04:32.29 | CompWizrd | 6 scsi's in a case with a 386/16 motherboard to load the power supply properly.. connected with a 3(6?) foot scsi cable to the scsi card in the main p200mmx machine that had 4 ide drives |
| 04:32.31 | Cyis | the fastest machine in my home LAN isn't any of the servers... it's my workstation :) |
| 04:32.44 | rr72 | thats sad |
| 04:32.57 | rr72 | *huge HOME lan |
| 04:33.14 | Cyis | CompWizrd: where you using a 50 pin narrow internal ribbon cable between the two cases? |
| 04:33.44 | CompWizrd | Cyis: i had it all working in ultra scsi, oddly enough |
| 04:33.47 | CompWizrd | and no, external cable |
| 04:33.47 | Cyis | rr72: my rack is down to 5 servers and a Cisco switch now |
| 04:34.04 | CompWizrd | i bought an external to internal adapter for the 386 case |
| 04:34.07 | Cyis | CompWizrd: had a client do something similar but he used internal cables rather than external |
| 04:34.08 | rr72 | i just have a bunch of small switches that hold 8 computers |
| 04:34.10 | CompWizrd | i violated just about every scsi cabling rule there was |
| 04:34.34 | Cyis | had the two cases sitting side-by-side with the cable hanging out between them |
| 04:34.42 | CompWizrd | yeah, i think that's how i first tested it out |
| 04:35.01 | Cyis | then wondered why I laughed when I look'd at it |
| 04:35.05 | CompWizrd | 60 gig or so, back in about 1997 |
| 04:35.18 | bumpsh3r | lol |
| 04:35.23 | CompWizrd | actually, probably was 100, beacuse of the 8.7 micropolis's |
| 04:35.31 | bumpsh3r | impressive |
| 04:35.40 | CompWizrd | got some drives free from onsale.com |
| 04:35.45 | Cyis | or the ISP I worked for at one point that wanted to run a full USENET feed on 3 IDE harddrives in a MD software RAID... course the drives only had enough space to spool for 24 hours |
| 04:35.51 | CompWizrd | when they advertised 20packs of drives for the price of a single drive |
| 04:35.56 | CompWizrd | i ordered 140, they didn't ship :/ |
| 04:36.02 | CompWizrd | they gave me two free hard drives though |
| 04:36.25 | CompWizrd | i ordered a living room full of 19" monitors from buy.com once, they didn't ship those either, bastards. |
| 04:36.45 | *** join/#debian Firestarter2 (n=Firestar@66.209.15.234) |
| 04:37.36 | Cyis | I need to reduce the number of PostgreSQL instances running on this machine... guess it's time to move the lone 7.4 database over to the 8.0 server |
| 04:37.38 | bumpsh3r | w00t!! classic family guy rules |
| 04:38.09 | *** join/#debian Disp (n=sean@dsl093-040-143.pdx1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 04:39.22 | grendal_prime | heheeh backed up all my data in my zaurus and now im bombing its memory..just like c3po |
| 04:39.57 | *** join/#debian |splat| (n=sweetbre@pcp0011415952pcs.desoto01.md.comcast.net) |
| 04:40.04 | Rounin | Hmm...apt-get is trying to download a package I don't want and it produces a conflict. How may I get apt-get ot ignore that package? |
| 04:40.05 | *** join/#debian Co3us (n=eat@d154-20-88-122.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 04:40.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 726] by debhelper |
| 04:40.12 | Rounin | I really don't care about that package specifically |
| 04:40.34 | Co3us | Hey guys, I just had my motherboard die on my linux box... I'm trying to plug the HD into my WinXP box, but I can't read the file system. Any suggestions? |
| 04:40.51 | Rounin | Yes, Co3us... There's a driver called ext2fsd I believe |
| 04:40.58 | *** join/#debian yos87 (n=yos87@ldb307.emirates.net.ae) |
| 04:41.01 | Rounin | You install it and then mount the drive from a console |
| 04:41.01 | blockd | Co3us: what fs is it? |
| 04:41.03 | Rounin | A DOS console |
| 04:41.09 | Rounin | And that should do it basically |
| 04:41.10 | *** join/#debian grover (n=evermuse@adsl-68-72-162-9.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 04:41.17 | Co3us | I honestly can't remember what FS it was |
| 04:41.17 | CompWizrd | a knoppix cd would let you get at the data as well |
| 04:41.25 | yos87 | hi there |
| 04:41.30 | Co3us | CompWizrd: oh yea, good idea |
| 04:41.34 | yos87 | my name is yosef |
| 04:41.56 | yos87 | somebody has free time to talk me |
| 04:41.56 | bucky | Rounin, i like to usr wajig hold <package> apt-get wajig |
| 04:42.39 | Rounin | you mean apt-get hold package? |
| 04:42.41 | michal_ | host security.debian.org |
| 04:42.43 | michal_ | security.debian.org A 1.0.0.0 |
| 04:42.58 | michal_ | this seemsd ecidedly incorrect :/ |
| 04:43.00 | bucky | Rounin, apt-get install wajig |
| 04:43.02 | *** join/#debian atilas (n=ya@dsl-200-78-51-52.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 04:43.06 | Rounin | OK, bucky, thanks |
| 04:43.38 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-163-28-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 04:43.55 | CompWizrd | michal_: just tried it here, got the usual 3 ip's |
| 04:44.03 | yos87 | hi markybob |
| 04:44.26 | markybob | hi |
| 04:44.36 | itp560 | my initrd file is 17MB how can make it arount 6MB ? |
| 04:44.36 | yos87 | how are u |
| 04:45.04 | Rounin | wajig isn't putting it on hold though, bucky |
| 04:45.13 | markybob | i'd be better if you could tell me where postfix stores mail on hold. |
| 04:45.26 | CompWizrd | markybob: /var/spool/postfix? |
| 04:45.31 | bucky | Rounin, which version of debian are you using? |
| 04:45.36 | yos87 | <markybob> I never knew it , I'm sorry |
| 04:45.46 | CompWizrd | in hold, probably |
| 04:45.48 | Rounin | Wish I knew... Testing |
| 04:45.55 | *** join/#debian carlois (n=carlois@201.230.118.74) |
| 04:46.02 | yos87 | <markybob> do u use debian |
| 04:46.05 | markybob | CompBrain, thanks |
| 04:46.15 | bucky | Rounin, so wajig hold <package_name> |
| 04:46.24 | Rounin | Which doesn't hold the package though |
| 04:46.33 | markybob | yos87 this is #debian, isnt it? :) yes |
| 04:46.42 | bucky | Rounin, what is the package? |
| 04:46.44 | Rounin | It just says "The following packages are on hold:" |
| 04:46.49 | Rounin | libsdl-ttf2.0-dev |
| 04:47.01 | *** join/#debian mhall (n=mhall@uop-10-48.pacific.edu) |
| 04:47.05 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.74) |
| 04:47.06 | yos87 | <markybob> but not all people there is using it , right? |
| 04:47.11 | *** join/#debian EruditeH1rmit (n=Erudite@wireless-am3.ucsd.edu) |
| 04:47.21 | markybob | yos87 they should be. is this 20 questions? |
| 04:47.25 | mhall | What's the canonical X screenshot tool? Is there a KDE compatible one with good hotkeys etc.? |
| 04:47.38 | dondelelcaro | mhall: import |
| 04:47.45 | dondelelcaro | you cannot go wrong with import. |
| 04:47.52 | blockd | mhall: ksnapshot I think |
| 04:47.57 | yos87 | <markyobob> I cannot get this system |
| 04:47.59 | gravity | I like the gimp |
| 04:48.31 | gravity | And the gnome one that's in the desktop menu |
| 04:48.31 | *** join/#debian Asmodee` (i=asmodee@69-171-2-38.lkwnny.adelphia.net) |
| 04:48.31 | markybob | yos87. your problem is what? |
| 04:48.32 | Rounin | It's odd though, bucky... I'm installing all packages beginning with "ttf-", and libsdl-ttf definitely doesn't match that at all |
| 04:48.32 | Rounin | Yet apt-get is claiming it does |
| 04:48.32 | yos87 | <markybob> there is no any vendoer here |
| 04:48.44 | markybob | yos87 who needs a vendor? download it and install it yourself |
| 04:48.49 | gravity | yos87: You can download it for free |
| 04:48.50 | CompWizrd | mhall: i do like scrot |
| 04:48.52 | gravity | legally even |
| 04:49.01 | bucky | Rounin, you're probably upgrading other dev packages and they all think they depend on each other |
| 04:49.06 | *** join/#debian tonsofpcs (n=tonsofpc@ool-4353b019.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:49.15 | yos87 | <markybob> it's very big system , my Isdn line do nothing |
| 04:49.28 | yos87 | <markybob>right |
| 04:49.29 | *** join/#debian _bumpsh3r (n=wcj@wsip-68-110-129-70.ga.at.cox.net) |
| 04:49.34 | Rounin | Oh, I see... Thanks, bucky... Well, I'll temporarily solve it through some regexp magic... Thanks for the info! |
| 04:49.36 | dondelelcaro | yos87: then purchase a DVD or CD set from a vendor; visit debian.org/CD |
| 04:49.37 | *** join/#debian spdf (n=mark@CPE001217c330cb-CM0011ae92b2aa.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 04:49.45 | *** join/#debian myren (n=matt@ip24-250-120-197.dc.dc.cox.net) |
| 04:49.47 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.74) |
| 04:49.51 | markybob | yos87, ah, ae. been there once. interesting place. but yeah, just order the cd |
| 04:50.07 | myren | how do I remove every instance of a character from a document? |
| 04:50.13 | CompWizrd | i had 70 people on isdn till last year at work... |
| 04:50.25 | yos87 | <markybob> from ? |
| 04:50.28 | Rounin | Mmm ISDN. |
| 04:50.29 | CompWizrd | the 4mbit dsl is much nicer :D |
| 04:50.30 | gravity | myren: sed s/yourcharacter//g |
| 04:50.32 | Rounin | The tool of the gods. |
| 04:50.34 | Asmodee` | when i add allow-transfer to /etc/bind/named.conf.options named refuses to start. any ideas? http://rafb.net/paste/results/QXnQ1g52.html |
| 04:50.38 | *** join/#debian jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 04:50.40 | markybob | yos87 www.debian.org/cd |
| 04:50.49 | EruditeH1rmit | hi, I have been having trouble with mounting my USB flash drives. I get an error saying that it is the wrong fs type bad superblock etc. Can anyone help? |
| 04:50.59 | yos87 | <markybob> checking .. |
| 04:51.04 | blockd | myren: you could use tr with the -d flag |
| 04:51.22 | cat_ | hi ! user "cat" cannt use sound ,somebody told me the reason is "cat" not in the "audio" group ,so , how can i add "cat" to the "audio" group ? |
| 04:51.36 | spdf | Ugh.. Anyone worked with lsvirprt/qdaemon, and all of that fun stuff? I can't seem to change the format from PCL to ASCII... (totally non debian related.. old aix system) |
| 04:51.39 | myren | thanks much |
| 04:51.55 | markybob | yos87 sorry, it's CD, not cd |
| 04:52.31 | yos87 | <markybob> , <gravity>, |
| 04:52.40 | yos87 | it's only for download |
| 04:52.50 | markybob | yos87 there's a link on there that says buy from vendors |
| 04:53.00 | madradrone | cat_: man addgroup and passwd |
| 04:53.01 | markybob | http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 04:53.01 | blockd | cat_: I'd use usermod with the -G flag, but maybe there's a more userfriendly way... nothing springs to mind though |
| 04:53.07 | markybob | yos87 ---^ |
| 04:53.10 | gravity | yos87: Can you order internationally? |
| 04:53.38 | yos87 | <gravity> yea of course! |
| 04:53.46 | gravity | yos87: Why not order it that way? |
| 04:54.14 | yos87 | <gravity> this only for download, not to by |
| 04:54.24 | markybob | yos87 http://www.us.debian.org/CD/vendors/ |
| 04:54.48 | cat_ | madradrone: sorry i am not good at English could you just give me the whole command ? user is "cat" group is "audio" |
| 04:54.54 | yos87 | <gravity> this is the plce of vendor, not internet shopping |
| 04:55.05 | gravity | I don't understand |
| 04:56.12 | yos87 | <gravity> it's list of tel no and email for the vendor in the countries |
| 04:56.15 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@ool-18bd5854.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 04:56.20 | gravity | Ah |
| 04:56.21 | yos87 | my count is no including |
| 04:56.34 | yos87 | I want sth like amazon |
| 04:56.40 | yos87 | buy from the internet |
| 04:56.48 | markybob | yos87 try www.cheapbytes.com |
| 04:57.10 | markybob | http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/os2.html?var_distribution=Debian |
| 04:57.19 | yos87 | <markybob> thank u |
| 04:57.59 | yos87 | <markybob> witch one the best for me |
| 04:57.59 | diana | I downloaded kernel source, applied the patches for suspend2, then I took my config from /boot and copied it to the kernel source dir, then did "make oldconfig" then I answered the questions for suspend2, then I did "make-kpkg kernel_image" it made a deb file, I installed the deb file, rebooted selected that kernel...and when it booted I got a kernel panic messagee. |
| 04:58.25 | diana | There is noo initrd.img* file for the kernel I just installed. |
| 04:58.34 | markybob | yos87 http://shop.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070011191.html |
| 04:58.40 | diana | But the oother kernels I installed with apt-get have a /boot/initrd.img* file |
| 04:58.55 | liable | diana: well you need to compile in all your drivers that your / relies on.. |
| 04:59.04 | myren | why isnt this expresion working: sed -e 's/[\]\[]//g' ... i'm trying to remove [ and ] from the doc |
| 04:59.05 | liable | diana: or make an initrd |
| 04:59.10 | litage | how can you determine which signal(s) will stop/kill a process without manually trying each one by one? |
| 04:59.18 | yos87 | <markybob> perfect |
| 04:59.22 | diana | liable: How do I make an initrd? |
| 04:59.31 | liable | diana: man mkinitrd |
| 04:59.47 | myren | if I just do sed -e 's/[\[]//g' it works |
| 04:59.53 | liable | diana: but its easier to just compile in the needed drivers. |
| 04:59.58 | yos87 | <markybob> I sweat too much to get it (** |
| 05:00.05 | markybob | diana depends. on debian you'll want make-kpkg --initrd kernel_image to build a deb of the kernel with initrd |
| 05:00.10 | cat_ | aha , i am already in the group audio :uid=1000(cat) gid=1000(cat) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(cat) |
| 05:00.18 | yos87 | <gravity> thank u too |
| 05:00.22 | diana | thanks markybob |
| 05:00.26 | gravity | yos87: You're welcome. Good luck! |
| 05:00.27 | cat_ | but i cannot use the sound ? what is the reason ? |
| 05:00.34 | stania | :) |
| 05:01.07 | Cyis | hmm... anyone know if there's any issues with postfix connecting to a PostgreSQL 8.0 server? |
| 05:01.13 | yos87 | <gravity> thank u |
| 05:01.14 | *** join/#debian corp-mule (n=corp-mul@pool-71-96-95-85.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 05:01.20 | liable | cat_: check mixer levels |
| 05:01.30 | corp-mule | dang! |
| 05:01.40 | corp-mule | reboot 50 times and finally .... I'm here. |
| 05:01.56 | corp-mule | I don't understand what's happenign |
| 05:02.08 | corp-mule | sometimes the eth0 isn't there |
| 05:02.11 | corp-mule | sometimes it is. |
| 05:02.20 | Cyis | I keep getting " warning: connect to pgsql server <DB hostname>: SSL SYSCALL error: No such file or directory?" |
| 05:02.21 | cat_ | i installed gnome with command "sudo apt-get install gnome-core ". the at gnome start ,there comes with a messege: can not find volume control or device |
| 05:02.34 | corp-mule | the memtest86 thing never shows up in the boot menu |
| 05:03.06 | cat_ | then i installed alsa-base and xmix . |
| 05:03.26 | cat_ | the same messegr come out |
| 05:03.33 | *** join/#debian FaithX (n=FaithX@vg28.vodafone.com.au) |
| 05:04.28 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 05:04.51 | Cyis | although the dict_pgsql.so for postfix appears to be compiled against libpq4 and libssl |
| 05:04.55 | *** part/#debian FaithX (n=FaithX@vg28.vodafone.com.au) |
| 05:04.56 | liable | hmm, had to kill x, machine was getting all laggy and using swap.. |
| 05:05.01 | cat_ | BTW this is not my first time installing debian with gnome from network.but this is the first time i come with such problem. |
| 05:05.15 | blockd | cat_: do you have alsa modules installed? |
| 05:05.34 | cat_ | blockd : yes i have installed alsa-base |
| 05:06.07 | blockd | those are just config files |
| 05:06.22 | yos87 | <gravity> does ICQ available in debian |
| 05:06.42 | cat_ | blockd:so what else i have to install ? |
| 05:06.59 | gravity | yos87: Yes. You can use the gaim program or there are ICQ-specific programs avaiable. |
| 05:07.25 | yos87 | <gravity> yea |
| 05:07.45 | blockd | cat_: aptitude search alsa-modules |
| 05:08.19 | *** join/#debian SvperPhly (i=codyb81@ip24-250-178-20.bc.dl.cox.net) |
| 05:08.24 | *** join/#debian fie (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 05:08.45 | cat_ | blockd :there are only debs for kernel 2.4 |
| 05:08.52 | *** join/#debian juju (n=juju@ip70-171-225-53.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:08.55 | yos87 | <gravity> what is you e-mail , and tell me asl please |
| 05:09.02 | gravity | uh |
| 05:09.05 | gravity | wtf |
| 05:09.42 | yos87 | <juju> hi |
| 05:09.42 | markybob | yeah. |
| 05:10.08 | blockd | cat_: it should normally work out of the box with 2.6 unless there are issues with your specific sound card (e.g., too new) or other issues entirely |
| 05:10.24 | blockd | at least alsa-wise |
| 05:10.30 | markybob | cat_ you have a 2.6 kernel? |
| 05:10.39 | gravity | I feel violated |
| 05:10.54 | markybob | gravity, that's what you get for being helpful |
| 05:10.55 | markybob | ;) |
| 05:11.02 | cat_ | markybob: YES of course 2.6.14 :) |
| 05:11.05 | juju | Hi how can I uninstall kde and reinstall it , because is not working correctly |
| 05:11.06 | gravity | markybob: You were way more helpful than I was :-) |
| 05:11.11 | markybob | cat_ as root, can you cat /dev/dsp |
| 05:11.29 | *** join/#debian manu (n=manu@202.56.249.12) |
| 05:11.32 | yos87 | <gravity> sorry |
| 05:11.48 | yos87 | <markybob> what do u mean |
| 05:11.49 | *** join/#debian wall_john2 (n=wall_joh@220.170.18.7) |
| 05:11.56 | *** join/#debian JPQuiceno (n=JuanPabl@fl-sdade-bw-a-109.miamfl.adelphia.net) |
| 05:12.46 | cat_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:13.25 | markybob | cat so you have sound working. :-) cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/dsp if you want proof. but anyway, is your user in the audio group? |
| 05:13.35 | *** join/#debian klock (n=klock@ppp-70-225-74-230.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net) |
| 05:14.34 | cat_ | markybob; yes cat is in the audio group . id: uid=1000(cat) gid=1000(cat) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(cat) |
| 05:14.37 | *** part/#debian yos87 (n=yos87@ldb307.emirates.net.ae) |
| 05:14.44 | sidiot | install alsa-utils |
| 05:14.48 | sidiot | then run alsaconf |
| 05:14.52 | sidiot | cat: see above! |
| 05:15.14 | cat_ | sidiot: thanks , i see |
| 05:15.18 | liable | cat_: have you logged out and back since you were put in the group? |
| 05:15.34 | *** join/#debian WildPenguin (n=The@250.160.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 05:16.06 | sidiot | juju: apt-get remove kdelibs3 --purge |
| 05:17.46 | cat_ | liable:aha ,all is because alsa doesn't found the ac97 sound card,now it is going to be normal :p |
| 05:18.14 | sidiot | cat_: did my advice work? |
| 05:18.50 | litage | how do you prevent postfix from logging to both syslog AND /var/log/mail.* ? |
| 05:19.24 | cat_ | sidiot: i did it ,and alsa found my sound card ! but i still can not add sound mixer to the pannel :( |
| 05:19.36 | *** join/#debian drcode (n=user1@212.199.146.8) |
| 05:19.37 | jjazz | I am trying to remove ac97_codec because I'm switching from oss to alsa, but modprobe tells me FATAL: Module ac97_codec is in use. How do I figure out what is using it? |
| 05:19.38 | drcode | hi all |
| 05:19.40 | drcode | whats up |
| 05:19.50 | sidiot | cat_: run alsamixer |
| 05:20.01 | sidiot | cat_: make sure everything is UNMUTED! |
| 05:20.11 | sidiot | cat_: then run alsactl store to save it |
| 05:20.25 | drcode | any one mybe know , I Have old IBM workpad c3 palm , Is there linux ver for this palm? |
| 05:20.27 | cat_ | ok |
| 05:20.46 | *** join/#debian meffs (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 05:23.00 | *** join/#debian ivl__ (n=ivl@lenq.krasu.ru) |
| 05:23.10 | *** join/#debian marty (n=marty@HONG-231-212.plu.edu) |
| 05:23.47 | marty | who here knows stuff about lirc |
| 05:23.47 | marty | ? |
| 05:24.30 | cat_ | sidiot :right click on the gnome pannel choose "add to pannel" choose "sound control" ,then there comes a messege : cann't find device or mixer |
| 05:25.10 | *** join/#debian manu (n=manu@202.56.249.12) |
| 05:25.36 | cat_ | maybe i have to reboot :? |
| 05:25.37 | sidiot | hmm...even still? and you're running a 2.6.x? |
| 05:25.37 | drcode | is there palm channel in linux? |
| 05:25.41 | sidiot | maybe... |
| 05:25.54 | cat_ | 2.6.14 |
| 05:25.54 | sidiot | i am not sure |
| 05:26.04 | sidiot | hmm...i've had some problems with 2.6.14 so far |
| 05:26.23 | marty | i've been having one problem over and over with irrecord |
| 05:26.41 | *** join/#debian sanj (n=sanj@202.62.76.232) |
| 05:26.46 | sanj | Any idea what causes the TCP_ERROR while connecting to a web server? |
| 05:26.48 | cat_ | or maybe i'd better install gnome but not gnome-core |
| 05:27.00 | *** join/#debian eXa_bOy (n=a@c220-239-81-237.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:27.05 | eXa_bOy | Guerin you there? |
| 05:27.18 | eXa_bOy | im trying to find a channel that would be full of sport nuts. |
| 05:27.38 | sidiot | i don't know..maybe...i'm not expert on that |
| 05:28.10 | cat_ | sidiot: however, thanks ,now rebooting ,see you soon :) |
| 05:28.18 | corp-mule | okay that's it. Either this mem is crap, or the mainboard AND the mem are crap. I guess that's what I get for buying cheap ass shit on sale at Frys. |
| 05:28.27 | *** part/#debian sanj (n=sanj@202.62.76.232) |
| 05:28.41 | corp-mule | And it's too late to take it back. |
| 05:28.51 | *** part/#debian eXa_bOy (n=a@c220-239-81-237.rochd3.qld.optusnet.com.au) |
| 05:29.26 | sidiot | ok |
| 05:29.29 | sidiot | good luck |
| 05:30.06 | CompWizrd | cockroach: you might have to run whatever grub uses for a configuration thing |
| 05:30.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 719] by debhelper |
| 05:30.13 | CompWizrd | otherwise just download the memtest iso or floppy images |
| 05:30.23 | *** join/#debian dpower (n=none@c-24-14-51-224.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:31.46 | *** join/#debian cute_Bgt (n=3sty@202.95.135.202) |
| 05:31.50 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.83) |
| 05:32.41 | cat_ | hi ,sidiot: i am alive again, everything about the damn sound card is ok ! thank you and thanks all :) |
| 05:32.53 | *** join/#debian themolester (i=themoles@30-54.34-65.tampabay.res.rr.com) |
| 05:33.38 | *** join/#debian john (i=john@if-core.info) |
| 05:33.51 | *** join/#debian ivl (n=ivl@lenq.krasu.ru) |
| 05:33.55 | cute_Bgt | hayyy... |
| 05:34.17 | *** join/#debian DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@81.10.62.121) |
| 05:35.16 | *** join/#debian VivekVC (n=user@unaffiliated/VivekVC) |
| 05:35.50 | corp-mule | how come I don't have a grub.conf file? |
| 05:35.52 | *** join/#debian spantiga_ (i=spantiga@cm-83-97-228-24.telecable.es) |
| 05:36.00 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 05:37.07 | *** join/#debian markybob (n=markybob@c-67-163-28-235.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 05:37.48 | *** join/#debian grugnog (n=Grugnog@25-29-55-213.adsl.realpoptel.net) |
| 05:37.49 | markybob | anyone know how i can save an attachment from an email message using only the command line? no programs that cant work within a script |
| 05:39.01 | Phated | corp-mule: Because grub.conf isn't used? Try /boot/grub/menu.lst. |
| 05:39.10 | *** join/#debian dondek (n=dondek@203.238.116.20) |
| 05:39.18 | corp-mule | heheh, yeah there's a menu.lst |
| 05:39.35 | corp-mule | I'm wondering why there ins't a grub.conf. |
| 05:39.56 | sidiot | cause you're running debian and not redhat |
| 05:40.02 | Phated | Because it... isn't used on Debian? :) |
| 05:40.04 | corp-mule | why would there be menu.lst instead of .... |
| 05:40.08 | corp-mule | oh |
| 05:40.09 | corp-mule | :) |
| 05:40.14 | *** join/#debian knj (i=knj@D40A3E74.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 05:40.23 | corp-mule | I didn't realize. |
| 05:40.25 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-201-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 05:42.08 | blockd | markybob: "uudeview -i emailmessage" |
| 05:42.21 | markybob | blockd thanks |
| 05:42.34 | blockd | don't let the "uu" fool you, it can do more than uuencode ;-) |
| 05:42.37 | *** join/#debian pusakat (i=proxy@203.167.88.65) |
| 05:42.57 | dpower | I have a script that i want to run upon log in, i understand im am supposed to "use" .bashrc but it is unclear what i specifically need to do |
| 05:43.11 | *** join/#debian TR0N1C (n=TR0N1C@c-67-183-56-123.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:43.12 | sidiot | how do you scroll up with irssi? |
| 05:43.18 | dpower | sidiot: you dont |
| 05:43.21 | Phated | sidiot: PgUp PgDown. |
| 05:43.26 | sidiot | oh |
| 05:43.32 | *** join/#debian XeRNiLuM (n=zyx@245.Red-213-98-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 05:43.44 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@221.167.96.168) |
| 05:43.45 | Phated | dpower: You call the script from withing .bashrc. |
| 05:43.48 | Phated | within. |
| 05:44.00 | Phated | Which, if you're writing scripts, you ought to know how to do. :) |
| 05:44.06 | dpower | ok, but when i open .bashrc i see some lines of code but not sure what i have to add to that file |
| 05:44.23 | *** join/#debian mne (n=mne@chello080108001212.35.11.tuwien.teleweb.at) |
| 05:44.32 | Phated | dpower: Whatever you use to call the script that you use. Just insert the command at the end of the line. |
| 05:44.44 | dpower | how simple |
| 05:44.46 | dpower | thx |
| 05:45.19 | sidiot | i like the topic...this is not #ubuntu |
| 05:45.23 | mne | hi there ! If I sent a process to background (using ^Z and bg) and killed its terminal as well, is there a way to get the process back to foreground ? |
| 05:45.43 | grandma | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:45.48 | blockd | mne: *and* killed it's terminal? |
| 05:45.56 | grandma | oh heh |
| 05:45.58 | madradrone | anyone know how to extract from an ape/cue image? |
| 05:46.02 | mne | grandma, i killed its terminal, tzhat does not work ;) |
| 05:46.08 | mne | blockd, right. |
| 05:46.10 | blockd | I don't think it has a foreground to go back to ;-) |
| 05:46.23 | mne | blockd, thats the problem |
| 05:46.50 | mne | blockd, can i somehow re-attach a terminal to it ? |
| 05:46.52 | atrus | depending on how you killed the terminal, the process may have died |
| 05:47.04 | mne | atrus, the process is still qorking |
| 05:47.19 | mne | i can see it in 'ps auxc' |
| 05:47.34 | atrus | i haven't found a way to re-attach to it myself |
| 05:47.43 | *** join/#debian Aaron999 (i=Java-y@ukiah-cuda1-gen2-70-36-20-52.losaca.adelphia.net) |
| 05:47.50 | Aaron999 | does anyone know Hebrew? |
| 05:47.54 | mne | atrus, i wonder if it's possible at all |
| 05:48.00 | sidiot | !Hebrew |
| 05:48.01 | madradrone | Aaron999: someone does |
| 05:48.10 | sidiot | Aaron999: do you? |
| 05:48.20 | Aaron999 | I'm jewish. but don't know it. |
| 05:48.21 | sidiot | Aaron999: if you do then someone does :) |
| 05:48.37 | madradrone | but if you don't, then noone does |
| 05:48.46 | Aaron999 | thats no good. |
| 05:48.47 | sidiot | yeah i agree |
| 05:48.55 | XxX | is xara3d for linux? |
| 05:49.03 | *** join/#debian debian_ (i=deb@ppp83-237-210-120.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 05:49.04 | Aaron999 | :s |
| 05:49.14 | rr72 | how would i boot off of a sata with controller card? |
| 05:49.55 | madradrone | rr72: the bios would have to allow it |
| 05:50.17 | rr72 | scsi? |
| 05:50.23 | rr72 | as a boot device? |
| 05:50.43 | madradrone | wtf does scsi have to do with an sata card? |
| 05:50.44 | *** join/#debian Langly1 (i=Langly@c-67-189-105-48.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 05:50.49 | rr72 | so i could upgrade my bios then right? |
| 05:51.10 | rr72 | under the kernel its in the /drivers/scsi/ folder |
| 05:51.22 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.82) |
| 05:52.15 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 05:52.38 | madradrone | rr72: on the linux side it shows up as a scsi device |
| 05:53.27 | madradrone | rr72: on the bios, it would have to support booting from an off-board controller |
| 05:53.58 | rr72 | so i guess i need to flash em |
| 05:54.00 | rr72 | k |
| 05:54.03 | rr72 | bbiab |
| 05:54.03 | grandma | anyone use GNU/Hurd? |
| 05:54.25 | sidiot | dkpg |
| 05:54.33 | sidiot | !test |
| 05:54.49 | sidiot | grandma: do you? |
| 05:55.09 | sidiot | grandma: you must be one when hip grandma than |
| 05:55.21 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 05:55.49 | *** join/#debian foka (n=foka@221.216.191.194) |
| 05:56.07 | cat_ | hi , i got anther problem ,and i have googled it ,how to install nvidia drivers ?FX 5200. severa days before ,i used ubuntu ,and followed the advice on forum of ubuntu.org,i successed drive my display card .so i try the same method on debian ,but it failed . so long ...........ammm ,could anyone tell me how to configure fx5200 card under debian sid with kernel 2.6.14 ??? |
| 05:56.22 | *** join/#debian dvsdude (n=Michael@CPE-144-131-196-182.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 05:56.23 | madradrone | cat_: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 05:56.24 | *** join/#debian slackd00d (n=bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:56.53 | *** join/#debian omry (n=Omry@IGLD-84-228-184-104.inter.net.il) |
| 05:57.29 | sidiot | dpkg i think is down |
| 05:57.40 | sidiot | cat what are you running sid? or a mixed system? |
| 05:57.46 | madradrone | its up |
| 05:57.50 | deadcat | can i remove the pkg modutils? (= |
| 05:58.05 | madradrone | what happens if you try? |
| 05:58.15 | cat_ | sidiot: pardon ? |
| 05:58.35 | cat_ | hehe sid , just sid , |
| 05:58.37 | sidiot | cat: what debian flavor are you running? stable, testing, or unstable, or a comb |
| 05:58.39 | sidiot | o |
| 05:58.40 | sidiot | ok |
| 05:59.50 | madradrone | deadcat: i think its used for 2.4 kernels only. module-init-tools is for 2.6 |
| 05:59.55 | *** join/#debian salmenara (n=salmenar@200.121.186.229) |
| 05:59.56 | *** join/#debian chihchun (n=cctsai@tnlug.linux.org.tw) |
| 05:59.59 | deadcat | madradrone: ya |
| 06:00.10 | cat_ | sidiot : see this howto :http://www.ubuntu.org.cn/support/documentation/guide/installnvidiadriver |
| 06:00.19 | madradrone | deadcat: but its dependent on many things and probably should be kept |
| 06:00.20 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (n=Bac9@2001:5c0:8b02:2:2a0:c9ff:fe6f:72cc) |
| 06:00.42 | deadcat | madradrone: ok. i just figure that i aint gonna use a 2.4 so why keep it around (= |
| 06:00.55 | Bac9 | anyone know how to specify to a browser which source ip address to use (if multiple are available)? |
| 06:00.56 | cat_ | i drived my card under ubuntu following that how-to |
| 06:01.02 | madradrone | deadcat: its prolly worth the couple hundred KB to keep :-) |
| 06:01.07 | deadcat | hehe |
| 06:01.33 | cat_ | deadcat : hehe ??? |
| 06:01.51 | madradrone | !hehe |
| 06:01.53 | deadcat | cat_: ??? |
| 06:02.02 | deadcat | cat_: you trying to confuse me? |
| 06:02.16 | cat_ | deadcat: i v seen you before |
| 06:02.49 | deadcat | cat_: ya. |
| 06:03.11 | deadcat | cat_: although your nick is generic. but i assume you're the saem dude |
| 06:03.33 | Daveman | one cat, dead cat, two cat, ...something... at |
| 06:03.49 | Phated | One cat, two cat, dead cat, four. |
| 06:03.51 | cat_ | daveman : yeah ... |
| 06:03.55 | *** join/#debian freenik (i=nik@port-212-202-168-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 06:04.02 | *** join/#debian Bofia (n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:04.35 | sidiot | i don't have an nvidia driver |
| 06:04.43 | sidiot | you might ask #debian-devel for help too |
| 06:04.58 | cat_ | ok |
| 06:05.19 | Daveman | :p |
| 06:05.53 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 06:05.56 | sidiot | cat_: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 06:06.17 | Cyis | hey deadcat... how ya doing? |
| 06:06.23 | *** join/#debian raden (n=J@68-184-19-246.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com) |
| 06:06.34 | deadcat | Cyis: ok man. (= school is crazy but i am hangin in there (= |
| 06:07.11 | cat_ | sidiot: reading.... |
| 06:07.14 | sidiot | cat_: http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/debian/debian-nvidia-dri-howto.txt |
| 06:07.24 | cat_ | thanks |
| 06:07.28 | Cyis | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:07.51 | deadcat | Cyis: congrad. but why vegas? |
| 06:07.58 | deadcat | family there? |
| 06:08.14 | sidiot | cat_: also http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/NVIDIA_graphics_drivers |
| 06:08.18 | sidiot | one of those should work |
| 06:08.21 | *** join/#debian pabs3 (n=pabs@dsl-202-72-168-241.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 06:08.31 | Cyis | deadcat: actually it's because we have no family or friends there.. making everyone travel :) |
| 06:08.43 | Cyis | figured 2nd time why not gamble ;) |
| 06:08.47 | deadcat | Cyis: HAHAHAHA. good move.. |
| 06:09.54 | Cyis | deadcat: although you met my lady... I think I made a far better choice this time :) |
| 06:13.21 | deadcat | Cyis: (= |
| 06:13.21 | grandma | whoa |
| 06:13.21 | sidiot | spliting! |
| 06:13.24 | Cyis | ouch... now that's a split |
| 06:13.25 | Daveman | yay |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian Kamesh (n=chatzill@cyd32.cyd.liu.se) |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian silensius (n=silensiu@61.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian Bofia (n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (n=Bac9@2001:5c0:8b02:2:2a0:c9ff:fe6f:72cc) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian omry (n=Omry@IGLD-84-228-184-104.inter.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.37 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@221.167.96.168) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-201-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian spantiga_ (i=spantiga@cm-83-97-228-24.telecable.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian VivekVC (n=user@unaffiliated/VivekVC) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@81.10.62.121) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian john (i=john@if-core.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian grover (n=evermuse@adsl-68-72-162-9.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian |splat| (n=sweetbre@pcp0011415952pcs.desoto01.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian jixor- (n=noemail@c220-237-53-233.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.38 | *** join/#debian Vilerage (i=rage@cpe-24-95-59-142.columbus.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian TasteOfDeath (n=tod@i53874245.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian Dragon_Fire (n=U-235@171.41.atm.restel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian lawn (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian Nurbs_ (i=tom@p50895ECB.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@solosoft.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian moreon_ (n=moreon@ppp-71-139-51-174.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (n=valdyn@ppp-62-245-211-127.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian freedom101_ (n=freedom1@modemcable149.222-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.39 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@static-67-62-27-40.dsl.cavtel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (n=phil@firthpark.tinsleyviaduct.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian mariano (n=mariano@200-122-1-78.dsl.prima.net.ar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian Bombo (i=bombo@p50837B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian green-mouse (n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-245.bb.netvision.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian michal_ (n=michal@dsl-58-6-123-9.qld.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-208-221.dsl.telepac.pt) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian umeboshi (n=umeboshi@pcp01317214pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian guru (n=joe@pdpc/supporter/active/guru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian kurtkraut (n=ktk@space.sbyte.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.40 | *** join/#debian oKtosiTe (n=oKtosiTe@ip5450f737.speed.planet.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian YGingras_ (n=YGingras@132.208.136.201) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian kvidell (i=id136@adsl-63-204-157-35.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian Exerd (n=jack@19554150111-SE-INMENTE-OSBY.host.songnetworks.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian caplink811_log (n=caplink8@dslb-084-059-093-142.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian opqdonut (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.adsl.academica.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian FlimFlamMan (n=FlimFlam@d65h243.public.uconn.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.41 | *** join/#debian Sweetsha2k (n=bjoern@d025150.adsl.hansenet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian Cope (n=sanelson@vm.wibbleworld.org.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian btsdev (n=brian@adsl-69-238-125-38.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian jax_ (n=jax@216.211.176.128) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian laurens__ (n=laurens@213-193-182-140.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-9-91.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian Fackamato (i=Fackamat@81-229-119-116-no24.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian JoshH (i=josh@josh.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian ackron (n=ackron@213.219.186.182.adslpower.by.edpnet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian pmdboi (i=cwillmor@mac1.genomics.purdue.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.42 | *** join/#debian jades (n=J@64-166-248-24.ded.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian Xybernaut (i=deb@ppp83-237-210-120.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian buz__ (n=dargwin@ppp-82-135-82-153.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian TheBigfoot (i=bigfoot@p85.212.194.39.tisdip.tiscali.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian Dalik (n=dalik@pc215-200.spk.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian pass (n=chatzill@owt-64-146-239-67.owt.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian jojux (n=joju@golomb.math.uni-paderborn.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian oldsparky (n=OldSpark@host128-86.pool80104.interbusiness.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian moshii (n=daniel@2001:4bd0:202c:0:a00:20ff:fec0:ffee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian Trixsey|Laptop (i=shus_@c-279072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.43 | *** join/#debian DreamEater (n=Dave@cpc1-lutn6-3-0-cust104.lutn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian ledet (n=thomas@p3m/member/ledet) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian dijital1 (n=dijital1@66-23-211-51.clients.speedfactory.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian ciphergoth (n=paul@host226.lshift.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian ecc (i=EgBlBkHK@c-24-3-154-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian sebi__ (n=sebi@Fd68d.f.strato-dslnet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphye@24-247-60-194.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian gst (i=gst@eris.sysfrog.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian Buz_ (n=fe@MN1-2A-u-0211.mc.onolab.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.44 | *** join/#debian jhaig (n=jhaig@mantis.office.netline.net.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian inc|fReAkY (i=alpha2@freakyy.de) |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian azreal (i=azreal@209-193-18-173-cdsl-rb1.jnu.acsalaska.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian forcemaster (n=jon@p54A7E79D.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian Hak`M|afk (n=hakm@82-197-199-242.dsl.cambrium.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian Noid (n=rsalazar@157.Red-217-126-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian maja (n=maja@wbs-146-186-99.telkomadsl.co.za) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian ipixnic (i=sublime@draft.out.lag.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.45 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B07C8.versanet.de) |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian Mage_ (i=mage@81-188-70-124.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian vladkao (n=vladkao@office.interbild.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian elements (i=elements@62.220.160.250) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian bwana147 (n=cbouvi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-134-84.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian xaiki (n=xaiki@cxhome.ath.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian sintex (n=snx@host-84-9-11-235.bulldogdsl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian chriswk (n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian xcyborg_ (n=service@ns.bitdefender.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.46 | *** join/#debian ekix (i=eki@YZMMDCCCLXXXV.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian terje` (n=terje@d5152224D.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian stew (n=stew@mudskipper.vireo.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian xbmodder (i=nobody@unaffiliated/xbmodder) |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian jing (n=ming@CPE0002a5b23cad-CM0011aea72b1a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian at0m|c (n=at0m@d51520397.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.47 | *** join/#debian Rocker_ (n=msn1@dima1.firstvds.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian tekniklr (n=tekniklr@cpe-24-59-76-187.twcny.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian KetuaLembuLaut (n=KLL@202.186.101.151) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian TwistedEmotions (n=Morpheus@63.81.21.32) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian roral (i=Muffin@h154.136.255.206.cable.pnbl.cablelynx.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian hackeron_ (n=hackeron@81-178-77-164.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian efaistos (n=efaistos@m163.net81-64-227.noos.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian pepperpot (n=nobody__@230-48-222-209.mycybernet.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian seeraa (n=ser@fox.stormbind.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.48 | *** join/#debian Snake-Eyes (n=blog@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian c0llyw0bbl3s (n=kvirc@reezeh.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian litage (n=nick@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian yam (i=jj@rev-193-97.virtu.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian Barnes (i=w00t@h133n2fls309o1036.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian Rawplayer (n=kevin@ipc31055d2.oom-killer.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian spark_ (i=spark@spark.student.utwente.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian zoid (n=zoid@MW-ESR1-66-117-233-28.fuse.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian yuki_ (n=yuki@p6208-ipad08matuyama.ehime.ocn.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.49 | *** join/#debian Ugly_Duck (n=ugly_duc@203.96.150.208) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian FlameMantisBadgr (n=Miranda@82-69-212-38.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian Deek (n=deek@c-67-167-165-112.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (n=suguru@p29ee77.kyotac00.ap.so-net.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian krusaf (i=krusaf@gar31-2-82-224-211-110.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian zophyx (n=Emile@pdpc/supporter/student/zophyx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (n=mike@71.225.65.55) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian Mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian Sadus_ (n=Sadus@82.116.147.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian lop (n=lop@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.50 | *** join/#debian grelli (n=grelli@apoc.dagr.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.51 | *** join/#debian justin420 (n=justin@24-117-106-15.cpe.cableone.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.51 | *** join/#debian pngwn (i=pngwn@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:cda7:6106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.51 | *** join/#debian taka_ (n=taka@ZK118165.ppp.dion.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.51 | *** join/#debian Astinus (i=iBook@freenode/staff/gentoo.astinus) |
| 06:13.51 | *** join/#debian xtr-II (n=01928375@S01060012174cc0e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian aardvarq (i=tgAardva@student478.student.nau.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian dserban_ (n=dserban@S010600112f0adac6.ok.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian Snow-Man (n=sfrost@snowman.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian DosBubba (i=dosbubba@dosbubba.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian bobesponja (i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.52 | *** join/#debian anibal (n=ams@debian/developer/anibal) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian ggeecko (n=ggeecko@adsl-065-012-183-078.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian k-dog (n=karsten@207.47.36.146) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian Cueball (n=lee@lb3.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian mp40 (i=mp40@project-starline.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian Shorty` (n=shorty@persephone.trancelab.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian nsc (i=nsc@silenceisdefeat.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (n=enkrypt@openwire.metawire.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.53 | *** join/#debian guitoune (n=guitoune@abu.iroqwa.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian Kerr (i=kerr@user-117-194-151-83.e7even.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (i=ravenbir@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian Skrotto (n=magnus@bl068a.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian sanoj (n=jonas@83.133.64.38) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=madclick@secondary.pssnet.com) |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian phreak (n=phreak@pippa.rsn.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.54 | *** join/#debian dj_ryan (i=ryan@dsl231-054-113.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian Gnea (i=gnea@uses.linux.so.he.does.not.get.bs.ods.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian registerednevyn (n=nevyn@c210-49-218-138.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian blahdebla1 (n=paulgear@203-206-29-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian sander (i=sander@062016187142.customer.alfanett.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian XTR (n=xtr@staff-nat.netnation.com) |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian nextime (n=nextime@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian dmc (i=dmc@angel.joroinen.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.55 | *** join/#debian zumbi___ (n=Hector@morgoth.tlc.upv.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian AtnNn (i=atnnn@epenis.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian TheCount (n=count@flatline.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian JViz` (i=Anomaly@adsl-065-013-131-023.sip.int.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian leumaS (i=samuel@c-beefe255.014-74-6b697210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian Kvant (i=hh@h26n9c1o848.bredband.skanova.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian LSorense (i=lsorense@els.tor.istop.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian bvs (i=dpkg@83.233.117.46) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian enveezee (n=nvz@c-24-3-200-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian acidrainy (i=mike@paranoidgeek.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.56 | *** join/#debian [machine] (n=timb@bulgaria.public-internet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian bbrazil (n=bbrazil@matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian vipe (n=vipe@lugwv/member/vipe) |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian Ronin (n=jason@CPE00609784918f-CM00080d77ee84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian xelam|bed (n=aejm@raptor.ukc.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian Caesar (n=apollock@debian/developer/apollock) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian Douwd (i=daniel@unaffiliated/douwd) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian sandman (n=s@CPE-67-48-250-132.new.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian HolyGoat (i=leendert@cc82732-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian ove (i=speed@flatface.debian.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.57 | *** join/#debian eye69 (i=magnus@upcore.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian shisa_Zzz (n=shisa@r118048.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian zinx (n=zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian aubergine\bnc (n=aubergin@dogz.kicks-ass.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian rj-away_ (n=booto@rawmode.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian Maliuta (n=nikolai@203.194.20.86) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian Oddi (n=j3sus@adsl-068-209-127-004.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian Guerin (n=magpie@60.197.208.47) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian timo (i=timo@c604.w2.ton.tut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.58 | *** join/#debian zOrK (i=eclipse@200.90.189.58) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian tix64 (n=bob@tix64.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian sassytomato (n=etch@modemcable217.206-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian erxz_paste (i=buu@ded430-deb-175-30.netsonic.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian kingsley (n=kingsley@dsl-47-142.nas.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian jazzmanss (n=jazzmans@ip24-253-96-67.lv.lv.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian TCW (n=TCW@unixkiste.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian raz0rsedge (n=raz0r@u16-119.dsl.vianetworks.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian ska (n=ska@ipdska.ipd.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian ramanujan (i=orca@bbhatt.student.Princeton.EDU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:13.59 | *** join/#debian davi (i=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian xsdg (i=xsdg@freenode/staff/xsdg) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian snail (i=syeates@oucs-yeates.oucs.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian dub (n=dub@damagedgoods.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian row (i=row@a.small.terrorist.force.br0ke.me.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian ryushe (n=ryushe@217.148.89.124) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian BasL (n=nnnnnnnn@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian Fleck (n=NoThing@2001:618:400:e44c:211:11ff:febc:4fc1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian dub6 (n=dub@2002:cb60:9f83:0:0:0:0:1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian Sunblade (n=Toshio@194.109.229.13) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.00 | *** join/#debian psycodad (n=obiwan@2001:4060:4419:b1:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian port7 (n=Bob@80.68.89.161) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian EdibleText (n=EdibleTe@h-66-166-193-50.nycmny83.covad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian happy_broccoli (n=albo@205.196.208.21) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian pusling (i=pusling@195.215.29.124) |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian Trewas (i=ilonen@rauta.lnet.lut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian xzu (n=otto@brucester.a20.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian Myon (i=cb@meitner.df7cb.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian MM2 (n=moversti@www.edu.haapavesi.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.01 | *** join/#debian Knorrie (n=knorrie@2001:888:10:a1d:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian SuperSox (n=paranoid@85.13.255.234) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian scoopex (n=scoopex@256bit.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian scotti (i=scotti@mgnet.biz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian JohnnyST (n=JohnnyST@av8.netikka.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian SaneEnglishMonk (n=michael@r163.worc.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian jamuraa (n=jamuraa@base0.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian vorsprung (n=vorsprun@host83-217-165-95.dsl.vispa.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian Ferret (i=worc1588@gentoo/user/ferret) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.02 | *** join/#debian jieter (n=jieter@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian Piggy (i=piggy@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian sussudio (i=suss@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian Wanderer (i=nomad@ipv6.rdlg.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian jan_ (n=jan@d51A4A401.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian jbroome (n=jbroome@63-168-10-93.celito.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian Yopyop (i=plop@83.173.67.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian mutante (i=mutante@s23.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.03 | *** join/#debian Maulkin (i=maulkin@debian/developer/neilm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian johns^ (n=john@decande.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian ozatomic (n=ozatomic@adsl-130-75.swiftdsl.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian Gathond (n=gathond@62.79.1.95.adsl.abc.tiscali.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian ApEtc (i=apetc@ip68-3-225-51.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian peterS (i=~m|ptrS|@ppp-67-64-27-197.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian remedy (n=remedy@81-178-240-182.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian baegle (n=beagle@pcp0010618641pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian resiak (n=will@unaffiliated/resiak) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian BLarg (n=ic382@c-67-165-66-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian bob2 (i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.04 | *** join/#debian rinmak (n=bah@dsl-202-72-186-218.wa.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian mad_ogre (n=mad_ogre@subdimension.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian Rydekull (i=rydekull@luda/rydekull) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian Bigfrans (n=vef@bofh.ti.thrijswijk.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian Shadur (i=shadur@marduk.systemec.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian malex (n=malex@mrb319.cvmbs.colostate.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian dio (i=anders@ua-83-227-134-75.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.05 | *** join/#debian carraca (n=carracaa@237.Red-81-33-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian hramrach (n=hramrach@uvt316-2.ruk.cuni.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian Tolimar (i=schmehl@2001:7b8:385:0:0:0:0:20) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian CompWizrd (i=compwiz@d57-66-114.home.cgocable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian siezer (i=siezer@rrcs-24-106-153-156.central.biz.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian cqst (n=unix@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-151-249.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian jannic (n=jan@mail2.gondor.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian xdr (n=xdr@c83-248-54-61.bredband.comhem.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian wazzles (i=wazzles@fdt57.eastnet.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian rox (n=rox@tm.213.143.79.69.dc.telemach.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.06 | *** join/#debian asuffield (n=asuffiel@213-162-123-241.neilsu458.adsl.metronet.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian sts (n=lost+fou@62.75.156.138) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian deepspace (n=darkmatt@pcp0011031277pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian Wille88 (i=wille@h.edu.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian [Cadet] (n=david@cpe-66-25-190-248.austin.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian tazle (n=tazle@ddr.tky.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian Freak (n=freak@83.151.30.172) |
| 06:14.07 | *** join/#debian davrieb (n=davrieb@c-219.dsl.tu-graz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian zarkdav (n=zarkdav@eddy.easynet.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian ssb (n=ssb@bastard.wormhole.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian RinzeWind (n=chema@213.37.210.43) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian loxley_ (n=johan@u.cant.hack.mysecurityserver.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian newcup (n=jnykopp@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:14.08 | *** join/#debian anhi (i=anhi@217.71.110.129) |
| 06:14.10 | rr72 | hm |
| 06:14.10 | rr72 | we can see that |
| 06:14.10 | Daveman | zoop |
| 06:14.10 | Bofia | lol |
| 06:14.11 | *** join/#debian marcels (i=marcel@og-9c66.adsl.wanadoo.nl) |
| 06:14.12 | sidiot | things are crazy |
| 06:14.12 | *** join/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) |
| 06:14.45 | *** join/#debian Caesar_ (n=apollock@dsl-202-45-99-53.ACT.netspace.net.au) |
| 06:15.04 | *** join/#debian lawn_ (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 06:15.16 | *** join/#debian firepoop (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 06:15.22 | *** join/#debian register1dnevyn (n=nevyn@c210-49-218-138.brodm1.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:15.54 | *** join/#debian scarynetworkguy (n=sng@c-24-22-88-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:16.05 | *** join/#debian andy (n=andy@221.216.191.194) |
| 06:17.29 | dvsdude | hey all looking at setting up a Quantum 200/400GB External LTO-2 LVD tape drive on debian are there any guides or howtos |
| 06:19.03 | CompWizrd | certance claims LTO2 will just work, should be a /dev/st0 device |
| 06:19.34 | *** join/#debian carlois (n=carlois@201.230.118.74) |
| 06:19.51 | *** join/#debian rend (n=cracker@unaffiliated/rend/x-000000001) |
| 06:19.56 | *** join/#debian pigri2 (n=pigri@3e44a13d.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 06:20.06 | *** join/#debian MyTH (n=Miranda@59.107.122.222) |
| 06:20.47 | dvsdude | CompWizrd, cool |
| 06:20.54 | *** join/#debian jeff_ (n=jeff@c-67-182-244-8.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 06:21.19 | rend | i have a laptop with pcmcia eth0... it keeps giving me weird errors like irq #3 disabled |
| 06:21.23 | *** part/#debian Kamesh (n=chatzill@cyd32.cyd.liu.se) |
| 06:21.27 | *** join/#debian btsdev_ (n=brian@adsl-69-238-125-38.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) |
| 06:21.42 | rend | an the network is super slow |
| 06:24.55 | cookiecaper | Hi guys! I'd like to set up an FTP server on my system so I can access my files from another location. How do you recommend I go about this? i.e., what is the best FTP server, etc. |
| 06:24.56 | streuner | rend: what laptop do you have? |
| 06:24.56 | SimonRaven | wee, netsplit |
| 06:25.01 | cat_ | once i can run cc ,the driver will be installed > so what package must i install to run cc? |
| 06:25.06 | *** join/#debian Aer (n=aer@m63.net81-66-46.noos.fr) |
| 06:25.07 | SimonRaven | cookiecaper: i'd suggest nfs or ssh |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian btsdev_ (n=brian@adsl-69-238-125-38.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian MyTH (n=Miranda@59.107.122.222) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian pigri2 (n=pigri@3e44a13d.adsl.enternet.hu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian firepoop (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian lawn_ (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian Caesar_ (n=apollock@dsl-202-45-99-53.ACT.netspace.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.35 | *** join/#debian saapas (n=saapas@a80-186-175-99.elisa-laajakaista.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian widrone_away (n=dronebot@bzzzt.fix.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian baffle (i=baffle@endor.stenstad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian kalve (i=thomas@gruvi.jodal.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian lahgoon (n=mikal@ti511210a080-4450.bb.online.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian rr72 (n=rr72@about/cooking/nakedchef/desserts/rr72) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian silensius (n=silensiu@61.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian Bofia (n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian Bac9 (n=Bac9@2001:5c0:8b02:2:2a0:c9ff:fe6f:72cc) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian omry (n=Omry@IGLD-84-228-184-104.inter.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.36 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@221.167.96.168) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-201-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian spantiga_ (i=spantiga@cm-83-97-228-24.telecable.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian VivekVC (n=user@unaffiliated/VivekVC) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian DarKnesS_WolF (n=wolf@81.10.62.121) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian john (i=john@if-core.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian grover (n=evermuse@adsl-68-72-162-9.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian |splat| (n=sweetbre@pcp0011415952pcs.desoto01.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian jixor- (n=noemail@c220-237-53-233.eburwd8.vic.optusnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian Vilerage (i=rage@cpe-24-95-59-142.columbus.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.37 | *** join/#debian TasteOfDeath (n=tod@i53874245.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian Dragon_Fire (n=U-235@171.41.atm.restel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian Nurbs_ (i=tom@p50895ECB.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian guk (i=chris@solosoft.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian valdyn_ (n=valdyn@ppp-62-245-211-127.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian freedom101_ (n=freedom1@modemcable149.222-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian secher (n=secher@static-67-62-27-40.dsl.cavtel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (n=phil@firthpark.tinsleyviaduct.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian mariano (n=mariano@200-122-1-78.dsl.prima.net.ar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.38 | *** join/#debian Bombo (i=bombo@p50837B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian green-mouse (n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-245.bb.netvision.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian michal_ (n=michal@dsl-58-6-123-9.qld.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-208-221.dsl.telepac.pt) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian umeboshi (n=umeboshi@pcp01317214pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian guru (n=joe@pdpc/supporter/active/guru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian kurtkraut (n=ktk@space.sbyte.org) |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian oKtosiTe (n=oKtosiTe@ip5450f737.speed.planet.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.39 | *** join/#debian YGingras_ (n=YGingras@132.208.136.201) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian kvidell (i=id136@adsl-63-204-157-35.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian Exerd (n=jack@19554150111-SE-INMENTE-OSBY.host.songnetworks.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian caplink811_log (n=caplink8@dslb-084-059-093-142.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian opqdonut (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.adsl.academica.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian FlimFlamMan (n=FlimFlam@d65h243.public.uconn.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian Sweetsha2k (n=bjoern@d025150.adsl.hansenet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian Cope (n=sanelson@vm.wibbleworld.org.uk) |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian btsdev (n=brian@adsl-69-238-125-38.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.40 | *** join/#debian jax_ (n=jax@216.211.176.128) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian laurens__ (n=laurens@213-193-182-140.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-9-91.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian Fackamato (i=Fackamat@81-229-119-116-no24.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian JoshH (i=josh@josh.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian ackron (n=ackron@213.219.186.182.adslpower.by.edpnet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian pmdboi (i=cwillmor@mac1.genomics.purdue.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian jades (n=J@64-166-248-24.ded.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian buz__ (n=dargwin@ppp-82-135-82-153.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.41 | *** join/#debian TheBigfoot (i=bigfoot@p85.212.194.39.tisdip.tiscali.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian Dalik (n=dalik@pc215-200.spk.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian pass (n=chatzill@owt-64-146-239-67.owt.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian jojux (n=joju@golomb.math.uni-paderborn.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian oldsparky (n=OldSpark@host128-86.pool80104.interbusiness.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian moshii (n=daniel@2001:4bd0:202c:0:a00:20ff:fec0:ffee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian Trixsey|Laptop (i=shus_@c-279072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian DreamEater (n=Dave@cpc1-lutn6-3-0-cust104.lutn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian ledet (n=thomas@p3m/member/ledet) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian dijital1 (n=dijital1@66-23-211-51.clients.speedfactory.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.42 | *** join/#debian ciphergoth (n=paul@host226.lshift.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian ecc (i=EgBlBkHK@c-24-3-154-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian sebi__ (n=sebi@Fd68d.f.strato-dslnet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphye@24-247-60-194.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian gst (i=gst@eris.sysfrog.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian Buz_ (n=fe@MN1-2A-u-0211.mc.onolab.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian jhaig (n=jhaig@mantis.office.netline.net.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian inc|fReAkY (i=alpha2@freakyy.de) |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian azreal (i=azreal@209-193-18-173-cdsl-rb1.jnu.acsalaska.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.43 | *** join/#debian forcemaster (n=jon@p54A7E79D.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian Hak`M|afk (n=hakm@82-197-199-242.dsl.cambrium.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian Noid (n=rsalazar@157.Red-217-126-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian maja (n=maja@wbs-146-186-99.telkomadsl.co.za) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian ipixnic (i=sublime@draft.out.lag.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B07C8.versanet.de) |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian Mage_ (i=mage@81-188-70-124.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian vladkao (n=vladkao@office.interbild.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian elements (i=elements@62.220.160.250) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.44 | *** join/#debian bwana147 (n=cbouvi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-134-84.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian xaiki (n=xaiki@cxhome.ath.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian sintex (n=snx@host-84-9-11-235.bulldogdsl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian chriswk (n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian ekix (i=eki@YZMMDCCCLXXXV.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian terje` (n=terje@d5152224D.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian stew (n=stew@mudskipper.vireo.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.45 | *** join/#debian xbmodder (i=nobody@unaffiliated/xbmodder) |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian jing (n=ming@CPE0002a5b23cad-CM0011aea72b1a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian at0m|c (n=at0m@d51520397.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian Rocker_ (n=msn1@dima1.firstvds.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian tekniklr (n=tekniklr@cpe-24-59-76-187.twcny.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian KetuaLembuLaut (n=KLL@202.186.101.151) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian TwistedEmotions (n=Morpheus@63.81.21.32) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian roral (i=Muffin@h154.136.255.206.cable.pnbl.cablelynx.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian hackeron_ (n=hackeron@81-178-77-164.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.46 | *** join/#debian efaistos (n=efaistos@m163.net81-64-227.noos.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian pepperpot (n=nobody__@230-48-222-209.mycybernet.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian seeraa (n=ser@fox.stormbind.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian Snake-Eyes (n=blog@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian c0llyw0bbl3s (n=kvirc@reezeh.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian litage (n=nick@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian yam (i=jj@rev-193-97.virtu.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian Barnes (i=w00t@h133n2fls309o1036.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.47 | *** join/#debian Rawplayer (n=kevin@ipc31055d2.oom-killer.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian spark_ (i=spark@spark.student.utwente.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian zoid (n=zoid@MW-ESR1-66-117-233-28.fuse.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian yuki_ (n=yuki@p6208-ipad08matuyama.ehime.ocn.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian Ugly_Duck (n=ugly_duc@203.96.150.208) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian FlameMantisBadgr (n=Miranda@82-69-212-38.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian Deek (n=deek@c-67-167-165-112.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (n=suguru@p29ee77.kyotac00.ap.so-net.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian krusaf (i=krusaf@gar31-2-82-224-211-110.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian zophyx (n=Emile@pdpc/supporter/student/zophyx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.48 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (n=mike@71.225.65.55) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.49 | *** join/#debian Mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.49 | *** join/#debian Sadus_ (n=Sadus@82.116.147.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian lop (n=lop@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian grelli (n=grelli@apoc.dagr.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian justin420 (n=justin@24-117-106-15.cpe.cableone.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian pngwn (i=pngwn@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:cda7:6106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian taka_ (n=taka@ZK118165.ppp.dion.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.50 | *** join/#debian Astinus (i=iBook@freenode/staff/gentoo.astinus) |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian xtr-II (n=01928375@S01060012174cc0e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian aardvarq (i=tgAardva@student478.student.nau.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian dserban_ (n=dserban@S010600112f0adac6.ok.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian Snow-Man (n=sfrost@snowman.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian DosBubba (i=dosbubba@dosbubba.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian bobesponja (i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian anibal (n=ams@debian/developer/anibal) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.51 | *** join/#debian ggeecko (n=ggeecko@adsl-065-012-183-078.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian k-dog (n=karsten@207.47.36.146) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian Cueball (n=lee@lb3.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian mp40 (i=mp40@project-starline.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian Shorty` (n=shorty@persephone.trancelab.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian nsc (i=nsc@silenceisdefeat.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (n=enkrypt@openwire.metawire.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian guitoune (n=guitoune@abu.iroqwa.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.52 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian Kerr (i=kerr@user-117-194-151-83.e7even.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (i=ravenbir@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian Skrotto (n=magnus@bl068a.studby.ntnu.no) |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian sanoj (n=jonas@83.133.64.38) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=madclick@secondary.pssnet.com) |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian phreak (n=phreak@pippa.rsn.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian dj_ryan (i=ryan@dsl231-054-113.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.53 | *** join/#debian blahdebla1 (n=paulgear@203-206-29-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian sander (i=sander@062016187142.customer.alfanett.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian XTR (n=xtr@staff-nat.netnation.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian nextime (n=nextime@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian dmc (i=dmc@angel.joroinen.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian zumbi___ (n=Hector@morgoth.tlc.upv.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian AtnNn (i=atnnn@epenis.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian TheCount (n=count@flatline.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian JViz` (i=Anomaly@adsl-065-013-131-023.sip.int.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.54 | *** join/#debian leumaS (i=samuel@c-beefe255.014-74-6b697210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian Kvant (i=hh@h26n9c1o848.bredband.skanova.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian LSorense (i=lsorense@els.tor.istop.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian bvs (i=dpkg@83.233.117.46) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian enveezee (n=nvz@c-24-3-200-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian acidrainy (i=mike@paranoidgeek.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian [machine] (n=timb@bulgaria.public-internet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian bbrazil (n=bbrazil@matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian vipe (n=vipe@lugwv/member/vipe) |
| 06:25.55 | *** join/#debian Ronin (n=jason@CPE00609784918f-CM00080d77ee84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian xelam|bed (n=aejm@raptor.ukc.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian Douwd (i=daniel@unaffiliated/douwd) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian sandman (n=s@CPE-67-48-250-132.new.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian HolyGoat (i=leendert@cc82732-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian ove (i=speed@flatface.debian.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian eye69 (i=magnus@upcore.net) |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian shisa_Zzz (n=shisa@r118048.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian zinx (n=zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian aubergine\bnc (n=aubergin@dogz.kicks-ass.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.56 | *** join/#debian rj-away_ (n=booto@rawmode.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian Maliuta (n=nikolai@203.194.20.86) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian Oddi (n=j3sus@adsl-068-209-127-004.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian Guerin (n=magpie@60.197.208.47) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian timo (i=timo@c604.w2.ton.tut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian zOrK (i=eclipse@200.90.189.58) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian tix64 (n=bob@tix64.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian sassytomato (n=etch@modemcable217.206-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian erxz_paste (i=buu@ded430-deb-175-30.netsonic.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian kingsley (n=kingsley@dsl-47-142.nas.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.57 | *** join/#debian jazzmanss (n=jazzmans@ip24-253-96-67.lv.lv.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian TCW (n=TCW@unixkiste.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian raz0rsedge (n=raz0r@u16-119.dsl.vianetworks.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian ska (n=ska@ipdska.ipd.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian ramanujan (i=orca@bbhatt.student.Princeton.EDU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian davi (i=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian xsdg (i=xsdg@freenode/staff/xsdg) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian snail (i=syeates@oucs-yeates.oucs.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian dub (n=dub@damagedgoods.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.58 | *** join/#debian row (i=row@a.small.terrorist.force.br0ke.me.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian ryushe (n=ryushe@217.148.89.124) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian anhi (i=anhi@217.71.110.129) |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian newcup (n=jnykopp@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian loxley_ (n=johan@u.cant.hack.mysecurityserver.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian RinzeWind (n=chema@213.37.210.43) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian ssb (n=ssb@bastard.wormhole.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian zarkdav (n=zarkdav@eddy.easynet.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian davrieb (n=davrieb@c-219.dsl.tu-graz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:25.59 | *** join/#debian Freak (n=freak@83.151.30.172) |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian tazle (n=tazle@ddr.tky.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian [Cadet] (n=david@cpe-66-25-190-248.austin.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian Wille88 (i=wille@h.edu.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian deepspace (n=darkmatt@pcp0011031277pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian sts (n=lost+fou@62.75.156.138) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian asuffield (n=asuffiel@213-162-123-241.neilsu458.adsl.metronet.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian rox (n=rox@tm.213.143.79.69.dc.telemach.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian wazzles (i=wazzles@fdt57.eastnet.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian xdr (n=xdr@c83-248-54-61.bredband.comhem.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.00 | *** join/#debian jannic (n=jan@mail2.gondor.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian cqst (n=unix@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-151-249.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian siezer (i=siezer@rrcs-24-106-153-156.central.biz.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian CompWizrd (i=compwiz@d57-66-114.home.cgocable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian Tolimar (i=schmehl@2001:7b8:385:0:0:0:0:20) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian hramrach (n=hramrach@uvt316-2.ruk.cuni.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian carraca (n=carracaa@237.Red-81-33-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian dio (i=anders@ua-83-227-134-75.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian malex (n=malex@mrb319.cvmbs.colostate.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.01 | *** join/#debian Shadur (i=shadur@marduk.systemec.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian Bigfrans (n=vef@bofh.ti.thrijswijk.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian Rydekull (i=rydekull@luda/rydekull) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian mad_ogre (n=mad_ogre@subdimension.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian rinmak (n=bah@dsl-202-72-186-218.wa.westnet.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian bob2 (i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian BLarg (n=ic382@c-67-165-66-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian resiak (n=will@unaffiliated/resiak) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian baegle (n=beagle@pcp0010618641pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian remedy (n=remedy@81-178-240-182.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.02 | *** join/#debian peterS (i=~m|ptrS|@ppp-67-64-27-197.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian ApEtc (i=apetc@ip68-3-225-51.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian Gathond (n=gathond@62.79.1.95.adsl.abc.tiscali.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian ozatomic (n=ozatomic@adsl-130-75.swiftdsl.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian johns^ (n=john@decande.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian Maulkin (i=maulkin@debian/developer/neilm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian mutante (i=mutante@s23.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian Yopyop (i=plop@83.173.67.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.03 | *** join/#debian jbroome (n=jbroome@63-168-10-93.celito.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian jan_ (n=jan@d51A4A401.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian Wanderer (i=nomad@ipv6.rdlg.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian sussudio (i=suss@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian Piggy (i=piggy@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian jieter (n=jieter@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian Ferret (i=worc1588@gentoo/user/ferret) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian vorsprung (n=vorsprun@host83-217-165-95.dsl.vispa.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian jamuraa (n=jamuraa@base0.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.04 | *** join/#debian SaneEnglishMonk (n=michael@r163.worc.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian JohnnyST (n=JohnnyST@av8.netikka.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian scotti (i=scotti@mgnet.biz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian scoopex (n=scoopex@256bit.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian SuperSox (n=paranoid@85.13.255.234) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian Knorrie (n=knorrie@2001:888:10:a1d:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian MM2 (n=moversti@www.edu.haapavesi.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian Myon (i=cb@meitner.df7cb.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian xzu (n=otto@brucester.a20.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian Trewas (i=ilonen@rauta.lnet.lut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.05 | *** join/#debian pusling (i=pusling@195.215.29.124) |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian happy_broccoli (n=albo@205.196.208.21) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian EdibleText (n=EdibleTe@h-66-166-193-50.nycmny83.covad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian port7 (n=Bob@80.68.89.161) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian psycodad (n=obiwan@2001:4060:4419:b1:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian Sunblade (n=Toshio@194.109.229.13) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.06 | *** join/#debian dub6 (n=dub@2002:cb60:9f83:0:0:0:0:1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.07 | *** join/#debian Fleck (n=NoThing@2001:618:400:e44c:211:11ff:febc:4fc1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.07 | *** join/#debian BasL (n=nnnnnnnn@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 06:26.07 | Daveman | rofl |
| 06:26.07 | *** join/#debian MrNaz (n=pirch@203-214-111-254.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 06:26.07 | *** part/#debian Bofia (n=xcvxd@dsl081-039-092.lax1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 06:26.07 | streuner | rend: what laptop do you have? |
| 06:26.07 | SimonRaven | !b-e cat_ |
| 06:26.07 | dpkg | cat_: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 06:26.07 | SimonRaven | @b-e cat_ |
| 06:26.07 | rend | toshiba satellite 2065cds |
| 06:26.07 | *** join/#debian jm_ (i=jm@febrile.org) |
| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | hm |
| 06:26.08 | ravenbird | cat_: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. apt-get install build-essential |
| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | ravenbird: test2 |
| 06:26.08 | ravenbird | No I'm not online anymore |
| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | @b-e |
| 06:26.08 | blockd | cookiecaper: it's probably simpler to just run sshd and use sftpd instead of ftp |
| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | !b-e |
| 06:26.08 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 06:26.08 | blockd | I mean sftp or scp (not sftpd...) |
| 06:26.08 | SimonRaven | there is not sftpd, it's sshd |
| 06:26.09 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 06:26.09 | *** join/#debian Caesar (n=apollock@debian/developer/apollock) |
| 06:26.09 | *** join/#debian Saphire (n=Ambassad@d58-104-96-10.dsl.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 06:26.09 | SimonRaven | s/not/no/ |
| 06:26.09 | rend | streuner: the laptop is a bit old |
| 06:26.09 | blockd | SimonRaven: yes, I said sshd about the server above, but then said sftpd for the client instad of sftp :-) |
| 06:26.09 | SimonRaven | yeh :). s'ok :) |
| 06:26.09 | *** join/#debian Angel-SL (n=angelsl@cm24.sigma13.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 06:26.10 | *** join/#debian xcyborg_ (n=service@ns.bitdefender.com) |
| 06:26.10 | blockd | I'll never live down the shame ;-) |
| 06:26.10 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 06:26.58 | streuner | rend: so you got PCMCIA to work at all? |
| 06:27.21 | streuner | rend: http://home.comcast.net/~fbui/Linux-on-Toshiba2065cds.html |
| 06:27.25 | rend | streuner: kinda with 2.6 |
| 06:27.26 | *** join/#debian scarynetworkguy (n=sng@c-24-22-88-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 06:27.27 | deadcat | rend: old laptop uses 16bit pcmcia cards |
| 06:28.02 | SimonRaven | talk about confused about protocol they're using.... : |
| 06:28.11 | rend | streuner: i could ping yahoo but the display shows tons of errors |
| 06:28.30 | Cyis | anyone setup a shared folder on Cyrus IMAP before? googling isn't finding much help in the how-to department |
| 06:28.38 | *** join/#debian Gnea (i=gnea@uses.linux.so.he.does.not.get.bs.ods.org) |
| 06:28.43 | rend | deadcat: all i can afford until the $400 walmart laptop |
| 06:28.46 | streuner | rend: how they look like? |
| 06:28.56 | SimonRaven | synchronization error (input sent without waiting for greeting): rejected connection from H=[202.88.167.210]:3705 I=[XXXXXXX]:25 input="POST / HTTP/1.0\r\nContent-Type: text/plain\r\nContent-Length: 973\r\n\r\nRSET\r\nHELO nuimage1.com\r\nMAIL FROM:<gllbab@hotmail.com>\r\nRCPT TO:<XXXXX@XXXXX>\r\nDA" |
| 06:29.04 | SimonRaven | like wtf... |
| 06:29.18 | rend | hard to say... they fill the entire screen |
| 06:29.21 | *** join/#debian Elly (i=elly@ool-457856bb.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:29.27 | *** join/#debian guk_ (i=chris@cable-63-135-23-39.sudbury.dyn.personainc.net) |
| 06:29.32 | *** join/#debian encompass (n=jason@dsl-hkigw7-fedadc00-73.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 06:29.38 | SimonRaven | Cyis: yeh, not hard. just a matter of acls on the mailbox, and setting where they live |
| 06:29.49 | encompass | does debian come in 64 bit sarge? |
| 06:29.59 | cookiecaper | blockd, how do I do that? apt-get install sftpd? |
| 06:30.02 | cookiecaper | encompass, yes |
| 06:30.06 | jm_ | yes it does, for 64-bit architectures, obviously |
| 06:30.12 | Cyis | SimonRaven: hmm.. would think someone would have wrote a how-to then :) |
| 06:30.15 | encompass | oh cool |
| 06:30.16 | rend | i have a usb to ethernet... airlink 101... can this work in linux? |
| 06:30.22 | SimonRaven | sharedprefix: somesharedthing |
| 06:30.32 | encompass | jsut looking at a lappy and the will install 32 bit debian but not 64bit |
| 06:30.34 | Gnea | rend: plug it in and see what happens |
| 06:30.36 | encompass | kinda sad |
| 06:30.40 | SimonRaven | maybe someone should |
| 06:30.40 | Cyis | encompass: there was an unofficial amd64 sarge release... officially it is looking more like etch |
| 06:30.52 | SimonRaven | Cyis: how you doing? |
| 06:31.01 | Cyis | SimonRaven: not bad.. getting married next week |
| 06:31.04 | cookiecaper | encompass, it's unofficial, but it works fine and gets updates and everything. What error does 64-bit fail on? |
| 06:31.07 | *** join/#debian silensius (n=silensiu@61.127-200-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 06:31.08 | encompass | this is an intel 64 |
| 06:31.10 | *** join/#debian paras (n=paras@202.79.37.177) |
| 06:31.11 | SimonRaven | Cyis: oh wow, congrats |
| 06:31.11 | rend | Gnea: i already did! |
| 06:31.15 | Cyis | have the future in-laws arriving Wed and will be with us through the end of the month almost |
| 06:31.17 | blockd | cookiecaper: should just be apt-get install ssh, and it's *not* sftpd! ;-) That extra "d" was a typo. |
| 06:31.31 | SimonRaven | oh yeh, neat |
| 06:31.32 | Gnea | rend: ok, and what does lsusb have to say about it? |
| 06:31.34 | jm_ | intel has several 64 bit chips |
| 06:31.46 | encompass | yeah |
| 06:31.48 | *** part/#debian dpower (n=none@c-24-14-51-224.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 06:31.55 | Cyis | SimonRaven: right now just trying to setup a system-wide shared IMAP folder for placing "spam" and "ham" files for teaching bayesian |
| 06:32.13 | cookiecaper | ok :) |
| 06:32.17 | Gnea | the intel 64 bit chips utilize em64t, which is backwards compatible with amd64 |
| 06:32.18 | cookiecaper | Thank you blockd |
| 06:32.22 | blockd | cookiecaper: you can use sftp or scp to get files from an ssh server |
| 06:32.22 | encompass | do any of you have a recommendation for debian lappies... like a website, europe if you can |
| 06:32.36 | SimonRaven | *nods* - just make sure they're under that prefix you set |
| 06:32.36 | encompass | or rsync |
| 06:32.37 | encompass | haha |
| 06:32.43 | cookiecaper | hmm SSH is already installed, how do I configure? |
| 06:32.44 | jm_ | Itaniums do not utilize em64t ;) |
| 06:33.06 | Gnea | correct ;) |
| 06:33.07 | rend | Gnea: bus 001 device 002: ID 0b95:7720 ASIX Electronics Corp |
| 06:33.15 | *** join/#debian kenboo (n=kenboo@user-0c9h15g.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 06:33.16 | Gnea | that's a totally different beast |
| 06:33.20 | Cyis | SimonRaven: is is not possible to do it outside of a user account? |
| 06:33.23 | blockd | cookiecaper: but do you have an ssh server running? What happens with "ssh 127.0.0.1"? |
| 06:33.23 | SimonRaven | Cyis: oh, in imapd.conf. should've mentioned that, sorry |
| 06:33.32 | *** join/#debian Lorvija (n=lorvija@dsl-lprgw1-fea8de00-152.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 06:33.49 | SimonRaven | Cyis: possibly, i haven't looked at that yet |
| 06:34.03 | blockd | cookiecaper: but it's probably a good idea to "man sshd_config" and read up a bit |
| 06:34.08 | rend | http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ hmm |
| 06:34.29 | *** join/#debian Edis0n (n=weber@u16-173.dsl.vianetworks.de) |
| 06:34.42 | SimonRaven | there's some info out there, just not in a document per se. |
| 06:34.56 | cookiecaper | sshing to loopback says authenticity can't be established and gives RSA fingerprint and am I sure I want to continue connecting? |
| 06:35.04 | blockd | cookiecaper: it's running then |
| 06:35.08 | SimonRaven | that's normal |
| 06:35.09 | deadcat | rend: time for a usb wireless card instead. |
| 06:35.34 | rend | i dont even have a wireless router |
| 06:35.39 | cookiecaper | so how can I access it from external systems and things, how do I configure that? I'll read man sshd_config |
| 06:35.40 | deadcat | oh (= |
| 06:35.52 | jbroome | rend: do your neighbors? :) |
| 06:35.53 | rend | deadcat: this is only usb 1 |
| 06:35.54 | madradrone | what command can convert .ogg to .mp3? |
| 06:36.00 | SimonRaven | cookiecaper: you'll want to be careful with that |
| 06:36.02 | Cyis | SimonRaven: hmm... looks like I have to enable altnamespace |
| 06:36.04 | blockd | cookiecaper: it probably already is configured to allow that |
| 06:36.06 | deadcat | rend: i am using usb1 as well. usb wireless |
| 06:36.08 | madradrone | sox is complaining "Sorry, no MP3 encoding support" |
| 06:36.11 | *** join/#debian beleys (n=beleys@167.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 06:36.18 | rend | jbroome: not open.. so i have been told |
| 06:36.19 | deadcat | madradrone: because sox dont do that |
| 06:36.22 | cookiecaper | OK, well don't I need to forward ports or something? |
| 06:36.22 | SimonRaven | Cyis: forgot about that bit |
| 06:36.24 | madradrone | oh |
| 06:36.31 | sparr | is there a good terminal for X that can use /usr/share/fonts/*.font console fonts? |
| 06:36.35 | SimonRaven | cookiecaper: depends |
| 06:36.35 | blockd | cookiecaper: you might want to change a few things though. E.g., only use protocol 2, disallow root logins, use RSA keys... that sort of stuff |
| 06:36.42 | madradrone | deadcat: oh right. proprietary BS stuff |
| 06:36.43 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 06:36.47 | SimonRaven | indeed |
| 06:36.52 | Cyis | SimonRaven: gotta see how that will change things up |
| 06:36.55 | deadcat | madradrone: you want lame right? |
| 06:37.07 | rend | deadcat: well how do I get this usb ethernet working first? |
| 06:37.11 | madradrone | deadcat: i have that installed. yeah will try it |
| 06:37.16 | cookiecaper | Ok. do I have to use command-line tools for SSH? I want to use this like a FTP. |
| 06:37.29 | SimonRaven | mostly config changes. imapd and friends still work |
| 06:37.42 | The_Vulture | cookiecaper: so use a graphical sftp/scp client |
| 06:37.47 | blockd | cookiecaper: I'm sure there are Linux GUIs available (I don't use 'em really). For Windows I know there's WinSCP (free as in beer and speech) |
| 06:37.52 | rend | is 2.6 a recent kernel? |
| 06:37.54 | deadcat | rend: what card? |
| 06:37.56 | SimonRaven | @wb The_Vulture |
| 06:37.58 | ravenbird | Welcome back The_Vulture, o lonely traveller amongst the TCP/IP packets of chaos. |
| 06:38.06 | rend | airlink 101 usb ethernet |
| 06:38.17 | The_Vulture | SimonRaven: G'day |
| 06:38.40 | blockd | cookiecaper: well.. I know konqueror can do sftp:// and scp:// URLs, but you'd be better off asking/looking elsewhere than me for Linux advice on GUIs for that |
| 06:38.41 | deadcat | rend: what chipset? try rtl8150? |
| 06:39.00 | rend | deadcat: how? |
| 06:39.09 | cat_ | why not be a little simple? |
| 06:39.25 | rend | lsusb says bus 001 device 002: ID 0b95:7720 ASIX Electronics Corp |
| 06:39.31 | Cyis | SimonRaven: okay... so altnamespace is not a bad thing... I like how it re-org'd the folder display |
| 06:39.37 | deadcat | rend: modprobe that driver |
| 06:39.46 | *** join/#debian Kz65021 (i=ircap8@201.255.105.153) |
| 06:39.59 | blockd | cookiecaper: the other advantage of ssh over vanilla ftp is that your username and password aren't going over the Internet in plaintext |
| 06:40.04 | blockd | *advantage |
| 06:40.09 | liable | meh first power outage for the summer.. ups is in the post :( |
| 06:40.20 | SimonRaven | i like the / layout. |
| 06:40.30 | *** part/#debian Kz65021 (i=ircap8@201.255.105.153) |
| 06:40.33 | Cyis | SimonRaven: now to just figure out what to tell cyradm to create the two new shared folders |
| 06:40.38 | *** join/#debian stumbles (n=stumbles@220-253-37-39.VIC.netspace.net.au) |
| 06:40.40 | *** join/#debian eTazZ (n=TazZ@64.0.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 06:40.42 | *** join/#debian GNU_ (n=debian@unaffiliated/fsf) |
| 06:40.52 | SimonRaven | cm foo/bar ;) |
| 06:41.25 | Gnea | rend: http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdr.php?id=164 |
| 06:41.25 | rend | deadcat: then what? |
| 06:41.29 | SimonRaven | i've patched my cyrus for auto-creation of boxes |
| 06:41.37 | deadcat | rend: see if you get ethX |
| 06:41.49 | *** join/#debian fireba11_grr (n=Miranda@p5495B990.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:41.51 | Cyis | SimonRaven: autocreate via sieve direction should be in 2.2 |
| 06:42.03 | SimonRaven | yeh, it is |
| 06:42.16 | rend | Gnea hmm then i need to modprob something else then? |
| 06:42.17 | Cyis | doesn't appear to be 2.2 in testing yet though |
| 06:42.26 | stumbles | if i had a list of file paths, what would be the best way to copy all the files somewhere while keeping their directory prefix? |
| 06:42.28 | blockd | cookiecaper: and the web site for ssh (OpenSSH) is openssh.org if you're interested |
| 06:42.28 | SimonRaven | using 2.2.12 |
| 06:42.37 | *** join/#debian minghua (n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 06:42.44 | corp-mule | what's a good movie player for linux? |
| 06:42.46 | cookiecaper | hmm i see. So this is just like logging into command line and I can use my command-line like I was there? |
| 06:42.46 | Cyis | SimonRaven: so create the mailbox as foo.bar rather than user.undrgrid.bar ? |
| 06:42.50 | SimonRaven | i had to patch it, haven't seen it in the cvs |
| 06:42.57 | stumbles | corp-mule: try vlc |
| 06:42.58 | deadcat | cookiecaper: mplayer, xine, vlc |
| 06:42.59 | streuner | corp-mule, xine, mplayer, vlc |
| 06:43.00 | blockd | cookiecaper: E.g., vs. the commercial one from ssh.com |
| 06:43.01 | cookiecaper | also, is this the same as SFTP? |
| 06:43.09 | corp-mule | thx |
| 06:43.19 | SimonRaven | Cyis: whatever sharedprefix: is, plus mailbox |
| 06:43.37 | blockd | cookiecaper: you can use an SFTP client with the ssh server to get your files. Anything that says it does sftp or scp. |
| 06:43.39 | SimonRaven | shared/ShareMeFoo |
| 06:43.53 | cookiecaper | ok cool, thanks. FYI, FileZilla supports SFTP |
| 06:43.54 | rend | deadcat: ifconfig says eth0 not found |
| 06:43.59 | Cyis | Well now with altnamespace enabled sharedprefix is "Shared Folders" |
| 06:44.13 | deadcat | rend: maybe the card is not supported. |
| 06:44.18 | cookiecaper | so that's a freeware frontend for Windows |
| 06:44.20 | rend | deadcat http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdr.php?id=164 |
| 06:44.36 | SimonRaven | whatever tickles your tummy =) |
| 06:44.54 | deadcat | rend: ah. third party driver. |
| 06:45.02 | rend | only my card is only 100mb |
| 06:45.02 | deadcat | rend: did you compile it then? |
| 06:45.28 | jm_ | stumbles: use tar for example |
| 06:45.31 | *** part/#debian minghua (n=minghua@adsl-69-153-128-173.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 06:45.31 | rend | dude I cant even transfer files yet |
| 06:45.47 | rend | im thinking of burning a cd |
| 06:45.49 | blockd | cookiecaper: you might also want to make sure you have strong passwords or use RSA keys to log in... and disable root logins etc... |
| 06:46.06 | Cyis | hmm... |
| 06:46.17 | deadcat | rend: no floppy or usb drive? |
| 06:46.18 | *** join/#debian Coke (n=peter@ferlin.it.su.se) |
| 06:46.19 | Cyis | cm "Shared Folders/Spam" failed saying invalid mailbox name |
| 06:46.19 | blockd | cookiecaper: you'll probably start seeing a lot of test/guest and other stuff in your logs trying to bruteforce weak passwords |
| 06:46.26 | stumbles | jm_: that was my initial thought, but seems a touch inefficient |
| 06:46.35 | cookiecaper | blockd, yes I haven't disabled root logins, but how do I use RSA keys? |
| 06:46.50 | cookiecaper | hmm hmm blockd, how do I monitor that? Do I have to run a packet sniffer all the time? |
| 06:46.58 | blockd | no |
| 06:47.01 | Coke | blockd: what are those logins about anyway? |
| 06:47.02 | blockd | you'll just see it in the logs |
| 06:47.06 | Coke | someone told me it was a Windows virus. |
| 06:47.11 | blockd | likely anyway.. sooner or later |
| 06:47.15 | rend | deadcat : no usb drive not sure if my floppy works on this desktop |
| 06:47.27 | SimonRaven | Coke: no, r00ted linux boxen |
| 06:47.40 | SimonRaven | some might be windoze too |
| 06:47.58 | cookiecaper | blockd, I don't usually look at any logs unless something is wrong ^_^ |
| 06:48.04 | SimonRaven | doesn't take much to run an ssh client |
| 06:48.06 | Cyis | jackpot... had to use "Shared Folders".Spam instead |
| 06:48.09 | deadcat | rend: file so small. it would be funny to burn to cd (=. and its a patch, you have to compile a kernel. they dont even have a way to compile the driver... |
| 06:48.21 | *** join/#debian Sax (n=Sax@ip68-7-87-121.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 06:48.23 | Cyis | . list "Shared Folders" "*" |
| 06:48.24 | rend | fuck |
| 06:48.29 | SimonRaven | Cyis: you restarted/reloaded cyrus? |
| 06:48.32 | Cyis | now returns both the Spam and Ham folders |
| 06:48.38 | SimonRaven | cool |
| 06:48.38 | Cyis | SimonRaven: yes |
| 06:48.39 | *** join/#debian pitillo (n=pitillo@81-202-123-39.user.ono.com) |
| 06:48.42 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 06:48.45 | deadcat | rend: not worth it. just get a cheap usb wireless and get neighbor's connection. your laptop is crap. |
| 06:49.08 | Cyis | ack... my Sieve script needs to be updated now with altnamespace |
| 06:49.09 | SimonRaven | or just old... |
| 06:49.10 | deadcat | rend: best way is to find a 16bit pcmcia |
| 06:49.11 | jm_ | stumbles: not sure if bash or say zsh have something similar to 4dos's "read arguments from a file" feature, zsh might do, but I can't find it after a quick glance at zshexpn man page |
| 06:49.11 | rend | i wonder if the net install even has kernel source |
| 06:49.12 | *** part/#debian Bac9 (n=Bac9@2001:5c0:8b02:2:2a0:c9ff:fe6f:72cc) |
| 06:49.27 | stumbles | jm_: ah, i just didn't think to check cp's man - turns out there is a --parents parameter |
| 06:49.32 | rend | deadcat: i have 2 pcmcia cards |
| 06:49.39 | deadcat | rend: none work? |
| 06:49.50 | SimonRaven | rend: why waste space on sources on a small cd? |
| 06:50.00 | corp-mule | why |
| 06:50.00 | rend | but thats working but tons of errors |
| 06:50.20 | corp-mule | why does it tell me It can't locate a module when I've provided the path? |
| 06:50.33 | corp-mule | doing modprobe |
| 06:50.47 | SimonRaven | you don't specify path with modprobe |
| 06:50.59 | corp-mule | oh |
| 06:51.04 | cookiecaper | also, I want this to work, because I can't test it until I'm at work. I've forwared and configured it on a port that isn't 22 and I've installed a GUI with SSH support (grcm) but it doesn't seem to do anything |
| 06:51.17 | cookiecaper | when I try to connect to loopback |
| 06:51.24 | peterS | if you *must* specify the path of a module, corp-mule, use 'insmod'. but don't do that, just install the module in a place modprobe will find it, and run 'depmod' afterward |
| 06:51.27 | cat_ | hi |
| 06:51.28 | stumbles | jm_: thanks, yes reading from a file is straightforward enough in bash -> cat filename |
| 06:51.35 | SimonRaven | it fetches the path automagically, based on the running kernel |
| 06:51.40 | cookiecaper | The authenticity of host '127.0.0.1 (127.0.0.1)' can't be established. |
| 06:51.40 | cookiecaper | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:51.49 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 06:51.53 | corp-mule | k, thx, peterS |
| 06:51.59 | cat_ | so much warning messege when i am installing nvidia drivers |
| 06:52.02 | cat_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:52.03 | cat_ | cat_ include/linux/prefetch.h:62: warning: pointer of type ‘void *’ used in arithmetic |
| 06:52.03 | cat_ | cat_ include/asm/io.h:253: warning: wrong type argument to increment |
| 06:52.03 | cat_ | cat_ /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:241:5: warning: "NV_ENABLE_MEM_TRACKING" is not defined |
| 06:52.03 | cat_ | cat_ /usr/src/modules/nvidia-kernel/nv/nv-linux.h:269:5: warning: "NV_ENABLE_MEM_TRACKING" is not defined |
| 06:52.03 | *** part/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.82) |
| 06:52.05 | Cyis | now to set the ACL |
| 06:52.08 | blockd | cookiecaper: it should only happen the first time if you accept |
| 06:52.34 | blockd | cookiecaper: if it happens afterwards then something is wrong unless you know you changed the server's private keys |
| 06:52.52 | cookiecaper | also, it seems to default to root login, I only want to use root login if I have to. OK. How do I set up private keys and use them to authenticate users? |
| 06:52.52 | *** join/#debian cat_ (n=cat@218.3.94.82) |
| 06:52.59 | cat_ | ??? |
| 06:53.03 | peterS | cat_: /topic |
| 06:53.05 | SimonRaven | cathper: that's a warning. it means the code needs auditing, and updating |
| 06:53.14 | jm_ | stumbles: sure, it's easily doable using `` or $(), it's just handier if there was simpler way to do it |
| 06:53.20 | SimonRaven | cathper: sorry |
| 06:53.22 | peterS | cat_: you flooded. don't do that, you'll get kicked off. /topic tells you what to do instead |
| 06:53.28 | SimonRaven | cat_: that's a warning. it means the code needs auditing, and updating |
| 06:53.34 | blockd | cookiecaper: look in the sshd config file and man page... it's in there :-) |
| 06:53.48 | Cyis | SimonRaven: so you use shared folders? |
| 06:53.56 | SimonRaven | cat_: and don't paste here please |
| 06:54.01 | cookiecaper | alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright alright |
| 06:54.04 | SimonRaven | Cyis: yeh, limited extent |
| 06:54.10 | rend | fuck |
| 06:54.17 | blockd | cookiecaper: fine.. PermitRootLogin no |
| 06:54.36 | rend | i should have left win 98 on this laptop |
| 06:54.52 | blockd | just saying it's a good idea to read up on it first... like many things :-) |
| 06:54.54 | streuner | rend: no, just get some cheap stuff which works |
| 06:54.58 | blockd | especially if it's a server |
| 06:55.03 | Cyis | SimonRaven: recommend a good ACL for these... I want authenticated users to be able to move messages not marked as spam into the Spam folder and mis-tagged messages into Ham |
| 06:55.18 | streuner | rend: second hand, i got my NIC for 1 buck... |
| 06:55.20 | cat_ | SimonRaven：then what can i do ? |
| 06:55.33 | *** join/#debian Rasta (n=RASTA@adsl-ull-57-130.46-151.net24.it) |
| 06:55.42 | peterS | cat_: I told you. read /topic and it will tell you what you can do |
| 06:55.44 | SimonRaven | sec |
| 06:55.48 | SimonRaven | cat_: ignore them |
| 06:55.53 | rend | streuner: apparently the pcmcia is screwed on this laptop |
| 06:55.56 | cookiecaper | blockd, I want to be able to login as root, but only if I have to -- I don't want it to default to that |
| 06:55.58 | *** part/#debian Rasta (n=RASTA@adsl-ull-57-130.46-151.net24.it) |
| 06:56.16 | rend | some said the couldnt get it working |
| 06:56.16 | blockd | how is it defaulting to it? I'm not sure what you mean. |
| 06:56.38 | SimonRaven | lrip should do |
| 06:56.47 | rend | i got it going in 1.6 excepy for the errors |
| 06:57.10 | blockd | cookiecaper: also, my way of using keys probably isn't the pure Debian way since I have more experience with Slackware |
| 06:57.11 | *** join/#debian seemawn (n=seemawn@p54A9AD50.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:57.39 | rend | eth0 interrupt dropped... disabling irq #3 |
| 06:57.43 | blockd | cookiecaper: I just made it not use PAM and then disabled password authentication |
| 06:57.50 | SimonRaven | according to my notes, p is only useful for anon anyway. you'll probably want 'anyone' set as user |
| 06:57.53 | cat_ | SimonRaven:Package nvidia-kernel-source was not built successfully, see/var/cache/modass/nvidia-kernel-source*buildlog* for details! |
| 06:57.58 | blockd | then you can use "ssh-keygen -t rsa" to make keys |
| 06:58.04 | SimonRaven | cat_: so go read it |
| 06:58.18 | cat_ | those warnings are in that file |
| 06:58.18 | cookiecaper | blockd, okay, thank you |
| 06:58.26 | cat_ | i had read ity |
| 06:58.27 | rend | eth0 interrupt dropped... disabling irq #3 - i get this on my pcmcia network card |
| 06:58.28 | cat_ | i had read it |
| 06:58.41 | cookiecaper | I gotta go now, thanks for all the help guys. Hopefully this'll work. |
| 06:58.45 | SimonRaven | look at the end... |
| 06:58.52 | *** join/#debian wtyler (n=wtyler@207.55.124.167) |
| 06:58.55 | rend | irq 3: nobody cared |
| 06:59.47 | Cyis | hmm... now I can subscribe it |
| 06:59.55 | streuner | rend: read what the slacker guy tell you... |
| 07:00.11 | streuner | rend: http://home.comcast.net/~fbui/Linux-on-Toshiba2065cds.html |
| 07:00.24 | *** join/#debian xcyborg_ (n=service@ns.bitdefender.com) |
| 07:00.27 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 07:00.35 | sidiot | i am trying to watch a dvd but it's kind of choppy |
| 07:00.42 | sidiot | i have libdvdcss2 installed |
| 07:01.00 | sidiot | choppy and jerky |
| 07:01.10 | *** join/#debian vmhobbes (n=id@203.76.230.158) |
| 07:01.20 | rend | streuner: right. thats one of the first things i found on google |
| 07:01.46 | *** part/#debian agilman (n=agilman@c-67-170-178-242.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 07:01.53 | SimonRaven | gotta tend to this set of patches. bbl |
| 07:02.10 | rend | so now i need to know of a cheap usb ethernet device that works |
| 07:02.15 | cat_ | SimonRaven： the end seems to be alright.i think the messege is not enough for me to locate whare is wrong on earth |
| 07:02.27 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@24.129.135.46) |
| 07:02.36 | streuner | rend: good and you thought its a good idea to use a NIC which uses third party modules then without knowing if your floppy even works? |
| 07:02.45 | rend | im kind looking at http://www.linux-usb.org/usbnet/ |
| 07:03.15 | rend | streuner: i have no idea |
| 07:03.15 | streuner | dude, you need a working module for your NIC |
| 07:03.40 | rend | for my current usb ethernet? |
| 07:03.51 | streuner | airxxxx |
| 07:04.22 | *** join/#debian wobbler (n=wayne@pdpc/supporter/active/wobbler) |
| 07:04.35 | rend | streuner: what? |
| 07:05.37 | *** part/#debian bucky (n=bucky@pdpc/supporter/active/bucky) |
| 07:05.49 | rend | i think this may be asix |
| 07:06.11 | rend | but i dont see it in lsmod |
| 07:06.12 | *** join/#debian manu (n=manu@202.56.249.12) |
| 07:07.53 | *** join/#debian xidaux (n=xidaux@cpe-204-210-129-254.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 07:07.54 | *** join/#debian keikoz (n=keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 07:07.56 | *** join/#debian GNU_ (n=debian@unaffiliated/fsf) |
| 07:07.57 | *** part/#debian xidaux (n=xidaux@cpe-204-210-129-254.hvc.res.rr.com) |
| 07:08.33 | rend | In particular, the ASIX 8817x chips are used in a wide variety of high speed (480 Mbit/s) capable 10/100 Ethernet adapters. |
| 07:08.48 | rend | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:09.29 | peterS | I'm afraid I don't understand how a 10/100 Ethernet chip can be capable of 480 Mbit/s |
| 07:09.44 | rend | i dont either |
| 07:09.46 | GNU_ | peterS, what? |
| 07:09.51 | jm_ | maybe that's referring to USB 2.0 speed? |
| 07:10.05 | peterS | jm_: ah, most likely. since that *is* 480 Mbit |
| 07:10.22 | jm_ | but the statement is quite confusing indeed |
| 07:10.29 | *** join/#debian Dr_Fie (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 07:10.32 | rend | so how do i get this module for debian? |
| 07:10.49 | streuner | rend: you compile it? |
| 07:11.23 | rend | streuner: my install doesnt have source |
| 07:11.32 | streuner | rend: yes... |
| 07:11.38 | rend | which cds do i need to burn? |
| 07:12.05 | streuner | rend: usually build-essential and kernel-headers |
| 07:12.17 | rend | because it looks like a net install will be unsucessful |
| 07:12.36 | streuner | if you i-net connections doesn't work...? |
| 07:12.42 | streuner | s/you/your/ |
| 07:12.44 | rend | dude i dont even have a complete install yet |
| 07:12.48 | *** join/#debian fie (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 07:13.15 | rend | streuner: correct |
| 07:13.21 | streuner | rend: you have a basic system |
| 07:13.56 | streuner | rend: get build-essential and kernel-headers for your kernel at pdo |
| 07:13.59 | streuner | !pdo |
| 07:13.59 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 07:14.05 | rend | add these problems onto just starting on the dvorak keyboard... hard to type |
| 07:14.07 | *** join/#debian Dave (n=Dave@cpc1-lutn6-3-0-cust104.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 07:14.48 | streuner | rend: apt will tell you which packages are missing... |
| 07:15.14 | peterS | rend: in answer to your actual question, build-essential and all the stuff it requires is probably all on CD 1 |
| 07:15.14 | rend | streuner: why not just download the full cds? |
| 07:15.45 | streuner | rend: you heard what peterS told you, just download sarge CD1 |
| 07:15.46 | rend | i can download quickly |
| 07:16.01 | *** join/#debian fusQuanto (n=fusquant@cpe-67-11-240-175.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 07:16.03 | rend | ok |
| 07:16.22 | fusQuanto | how do i check what modules are loaded? im runnign a debianized kernel |
| 07:16.22 | streuner | rend: kernel-headers are usually 10 MB or such |
| 07:16.32 | streuner | lsmod |
| 07:16.35 | *** join/#debian vojko (n=vojko@BSN-77-157-214.dsl.siol.net) |
| 07:16.37 | fusQuanto | thx |
| 07:16.40 | peterS | rend: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo to see what packages are on which CDs |
| 07:17.57 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 07:18.07 | *** join/#debian el_alexluna (n=alexluna@201.124.74.240) |
| 07:18.09 | el_alexluna | hi all |
| 07:18.22 | el_alexluna | how i can configure samba with swat¿? |
| 07:18.57 | *** join/#debian liable_ (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 07:19.09 | Gnea | el_alexluna: easily. |
| 07:19.10 | peterS | el_alexluna: install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 07:19.19 | rend | it would rock to get this bastard going... thanks for the encouragement |
| 07:20.05 | liable_ | jesus, four blacouts in an hour. |
| 07:20.12 | liable_ | blackouts.. |
| 07:20.12 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@221.167.26.29) |
| 07:20.16 | *** join/#debian paras (n=paras@202.79.37.177) |
| 07:20.21 | Gnea | ok, there. |
| 07:20.24 | Gnea | !swat |
| 07:20.24 | dpkg | it has been said that swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 07:20.27 | silensius | in cups how can i resolve this error message: client-error-not-possible |
| 07:20.51 | Gnea | silensius: sid? |
| 07:21.01 | el_alexluna | Gnea, i'll try |
| 07:21.14 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 07:21.34 | silensius | sarge |
| 07:21.44 | *** join/#debian ackron_ (n=ackron@213.219.161.253) |
| 07:22.01 | silensius | Gnea : sarge |
| 07:22.03 | Cyis | SimonRaven: you still there? |
| 07:22.16 | Gnea | silensius: what printer? |
| 07:22.43 | silensius | brother hl 1660e |
| 07:23.06 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.59.56) |
| 07:23.21 | streuner | rend: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 07:24.31 | el_alexluna | Gnea, thanks it works |
| 07:24.59 | Gnea | el_alexluna: thank go to peterS :) |
| 07:25.02 | Gnea | !beer peterS |
| 07:25.11 | peterS | (: |
| 07:25.21 | *** join/#debian alienbrain (n=amr@212.103.170.135) |
| 07:25.33 | Gnea | silensius: what driver are you using? |
| 07:25.48 | streuner | http://sourceforge.net/projects/ax88178 |
| 07:25.57 | harleyg | yo think debian is beter than gentoo |
| 07:25.58 | harleyg | you* |
| 07:26.03 | silensius | ouf isthere many driver and i can choice what is the correct driver |
| 07:26.10 | streuner | harleyg: /msg dpkg why debian |
| 07:26.17 | Gnea | harleyg: eh? |
| 07:26.22 | harleyg | gentoo |
| 07:26.30 | harleyg | you lot think debian is beter than gentoo |
| 07:26.34 | Gnea | harleyg: that's like asking "which is better? linux or windows?" |
| 07:26.42 | harleyg | not really |
| 07:26.45 | Gnea | is this #gentoo? |
| 07:26.48 | Gnea | yes, really. |
| 07:26.56 | streuner | harleyg: vice versa, why not asking the same question in #gentoo ;-) |
| 07:27.00 | harleyg | not the channel and distro |
| 07:27.04 | harleyg | i did |
| 07:27.11 | harleyg | most hadnt used debian :P |
| 07:27.28 | harleyg | no but really, the gentoo install suks but when you got it runnin fully it pwns debian |
| 07:27.29 | harleyg | :) |
| 07:27.37 | Gnea | harleyg: ok, if i asked you that question, as a total n00b: "which is better? linux or windows?" what would your answer be? |
| 07:27.47 | harleyg | linux |
| 07:27.51 | liable_ | harleyg: piss off if you are just here to troll. |
| 07:27.55 | Gnea | HA |
| 07:27.58 | harleyg | no im not |
| 07:28.02 | harleyg | im always called a troll |
| 07:28.03 | harleyg | :P |
| 07:28.13 | harleyg | its just a questio |
| 07:28.13 | peterS | harleyg: dude. your question is meaningless. |
| 07:28.19 | harleyg | i just wanna no |
| 07:28.20 | harleyg | :P |
| 07:28.26 | dvsdude | harleyg, whats better GNU Software or Open Source |
| 07:28.33 | harleyg | gnu |
| 07:28.38 | harleyg | :p |
| 07:28.39 | Gnea | harleyg: that's because you have no real-world experience with linux, just your own personal box, which doesn't count. take your opinion and go choke on it. |
| 07:28.42 | Gnea | ROFL |
| 07:28.46 | Gnea | !beer dvsdude |
| 07:28.50 | peterS | harleyg: the question is meaningless. you didn't say what you mean by "better" |
| 07:29.01 | harleyg | i mean in your opions |
| 07:29.04 | dvsdude | Gnea, Cheers |
| 07:29.05 | harleyg | opinions |
| 07:29.06 | peterS | harleyg: anything can be "better" than anything else if you use the right criteria |
| 07:29.12 | *** part/#debian TR0N1C (n=TR0N1C@c-67-183-56-123.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 07:29.20 | harleyg | IN YOUR OPINION |
| 07:29.20 | peterS | harleyg: also, in a channel named "#debian", do you *really* think you might not get the answer "we prefer debian"? |
| 07:29.21 | Gnea | harleyg: the *REAL answer is: "it depends upon your application" |
| 07:29.24 | peterS | harleyg: that is why your question is stupid |
| 07:29.27 | sep | harleyg, if you ask our opinion youll get ~700 different answers how does that help you at all |
| 07:29.29 | harleyg | dude everyone in here is so fuckin moody |
| 07:29.38 | Gnea | harleyg: your mom. |
| 07:29.41 | *** join/#debian lgd_ (n=lgd_@151.56.98.63) |
| 07:29.42 | harleyg | ... |
| 07:29.46 | Gnea | >:) |
| 07:29.52 | harleyg | you get so uptight about suck stupid things |
| 07:29.57 | peterS | harleyg: your question was designed to waste our time. you already knew what answer you would get. |
| 07:30.00 | Gnea | i just gave you my opinion. |
| 07:30.03 | sep | harleyg, we just dislike these statistical poll questions. it's a waste of time. |
| 07:30.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 712] by debhelper |
| 07:30.10 | peterS | harleyg: and yes, things designed to waste our time are worthy of being called stupid. |
| 07:30.16 | Gnea | harleyg: oh, you've got a problem with that? |
| 07:30.22 | harleyg | gnea stfu please |
| 07:30.28 | harleyg | your the only one still havign a go |
| 07:30.39 | Gnea | so you've got a problem. |
| 07:30.51 | harleyg | err no |
| 07:30.57 | Gnea | !troll harleyg |
| 07:30.59 | *** join/#debian shiyee (n=Shiyee@homer.cs.aau.dk) |
| 07:31.00 | peterS | harleyg: you win, you succeeded in wasting a few minutes of our time. now go away please before you waste any more of it |
| 07:31.00 | harleyg | yay |
| 07:31.01 | harleyg | .. |
| 07:31.11 | harleyg | dudes just stfu |
| 07:31.17 | harleyg | im not leavin ive been here ages |
| 07:31.18 | Gnea | oh hell no. |
| 07:31.21 | harleyg | im always here |
| 07:31.24 | streuner | harleyg: you didn't asked a specific debian question already... |
| 07:31.29 | harleyg | cat i ask a stupid question ever now and then |
| 07:31.35 | streuner | s/asked/ask/ |
| 07:31.42 | harleyg | :P |
| 07:31.43 | liable_ | harleyg: yes, you have, now stop it. |
| 07:31.44 | Gnea | i've been here for months and this is the first time i've ever seen you say a thing. |
| 07:31.47 | peterS | harleyg: if that is true, why did you ask such a stupid question? did you really not know any better even though you've been here "ages"? |
| 07:32.00 | *** join/#debian rend5 (n=cracker@cpe-67-10-81-6.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 07:32.06 | harleyg | i dotn read this channel |
| 07:32.10 | harleyg | only if im typin in it |
| 07:32.11 | fooz | #debian reminds me of customers at work :/ |
| 07:32.16 | sep | harleyg, if your allways here why did you ask such a stupid question. something like whats's better of x and y gets asked atlest 5 times a week in here and it's allways just as anoying/pointless |
| 07:32.20 | peterS | harleyg: then saying you've "been here ages" is also meaningless |
| 07:32.22 | Gnea | harleyg: which means you've not been here for ages. |
| 07:32.23 | streuner | fooz: hehe :-) |
| 07:32.23 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-201-231.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 07:32.24 | *** join/#debian Anhorn (n=Miranda@anhorn.sh.cvut.cz) |
| 07:32.25 | rend5 | streuner: 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 07:32.39 | harleyg | wtf? |
| 07:32.48 | streuner | rend5: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ax88178 |
| 07:32.50 | rend5 | debian 3.3.5-12 |
| 07:32.56 | harleyg | okok you lot jsut drop it |
| 07:33.04 | harleyg | god sake |
| 07:33.06 | harleyg | so defensive |
| 07:33.09 | Gnea | harleyg: seriously, if my computer could compile a whole 5 gigs of source code in under 2 hours, i'd use gentoo. |
| 07:33.13 | rend5 | streuner: i saw that earlier |
| 07:33.16 | fooz | my computer can |
| 07:33.22 | harleyg | me to :P |
| 07:33.26 | Gnea | harleyg: but the fact is, it can't, and so therefore, gentoo is crap. :) |
| 07:33.35 | harleyg | lol |
| 07:33.35 | *** join/#debian bibe (n=bibe@195.206.1.61) |
| 07:33.39 | peterS | Gnea: if your computer could do that, there is no way you'd ever notice a performance difference between gentoo and whatever the slowest OS on earth is |
| 07:33.39 | Gnea | lmao |
| 07:33.47 | *** join/#debian hron (n=hron@mm-142-246-209-82.adsl.mgts.by) |
| 07:33.48 | rend5 | streuner: but i think my kernel is diff |
| 07:33.49 | Gnea | peterS: exactly. :) |
| 07:33.57 | streuner | rend5: yes... |
| 07:34.00 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=shawng@dsl166-053.caltel.com) |
| 07:34.07 | streuner | rend5: argh |
| 07:34.10 | peterS | Gnea: so then why use gentoo? why not use something that wastes less of *your* time, since that is *not* aided by having a fast computer? |
| 07:34.15 | fooz | peterS, solaris and OS X would still be slow |
| 07:34.16 | fooz | on it |
| 07:34.23 | Gnea | peterS: such as redhat? |
| 07:34.44 | peterS | Gnea: whatever wastes the least of your time. I personally think debian wastes less admin time than redhat, but I don't have enough experience with redhat to say for certain |
| 07:34.49 | rend5 | i need magic pixie dust or something |
| 07:35.00 | Gnea | peterS: i am in full agreement. |
| 07:35.31 | *** join/#debian concept10 (n=concept1@c-67-166-167-125.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 07:36.00 | sep | peterS, i just jumped ship when itmorphed into fedora. and yes it wastes a lot less of your admintime. admitadly you can probably use apt-get on redhat also now but i havent tried that |
| 07:36.07 | dondelelcaro | it's almost always cheaper to throw more hardware at the problem then more administrators at the problem. |
| 07:36.23 | fooz | back when I used DOS, I never felt like it wasted my time.. but i liked editing config.sys until I had 612K free conventional memory (not counting QEMM) |
| 07:36.33 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: less headaches that way. |
| 07:36.35 | peterS | fooz: 612 is a lot |
| 07:36.46 | sep | peterS, on the other hand redhat wastes a frigging huge lot less tiome then trying to keep a few windows 2k boxes secure... :/ |
| 07:36.46 | rend5 | is knoppix made to be run from cd? i am thinking of trying it to see if my hw works |
| 07:36.51 | streuner | rend5: get another NIC |
| 07:36.51 | jm_ | fooz: how about MS's equivalent of qemm? |
| 07:36.58 | fooz | they had one? |
| 07:36.59 | Gnea | dude, qemm rocked |
| 07:37.05 | liable | rend5: yes |
| 07:37.12 | streuner | rend5: which is supported in linux |
| 07:37.14 | jm_ | yeah, they had something similar later on, the name escapes me right now |
| 07:37.24 | Gnea | although eventually i did find an application that qemm did not support very wel |
| 07:37.26 | peterS | sep: apt-get isn't the magic bullet. anyone can come up with a download manager that runs the package manager. the magic bullet is the attention to detail debian developers put into their packaging itself |
| 07:37.28 | Gnea | *well |
| 07:37.32 | *** join/#debian xinming (n=xinming@60.180.83.94) |
| 07:37.39 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@145.253.117.242) |
| 07:37.53 | dondelelcaro | although, it is fairly difficult to write something that is nearly as bulletproof as dpkg is... |
| 07:37.54 | fooz | they had HIMEM.SYS (the XMS driver) and EMM386.EXE (the EMS emulator and upper memory block driver) |
| 07:37.55 | streuner | rend5: just google for your 'NIC' and 'knoppix' |
| 07:37.56 | Gnea | rend5: knoppix or kanotix are great |
| 07:38.12 | jm_ | yeah those were present for a long time |
| 07:38.20 | peterS | dondelelcaro: true, true. but lots of people in the rpm world figured they had arrived when apt-get was ported |
| 07:38.22 | fooz | there was never anything else from MS that I know of |
| 07:38.36 | fooz | RPM is pretty robust |
| 07:38.37 | sep | peterS, this is true. apt-get isn't better then the repository you run it against. |
| 07:38.37 | *** join/#debian fusQuanto (n=fusquant@cpe-67-11-240-175.satx.res.rr.com) |
| 07:38.44 | streuner | rend5: i doubt that knoppix has this driver in his kernel... |
| 07:39.04 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: if dpkg had jugs she'd win first prize at the state fair, if dpkg was female |
| 07:39.06 | *** join/#debian uwe (n=uwe@83.244.76.184) |
| 07:39.09 | fusQuanto | i upgraded my kernel thru .debs and my oSS sound stopped working (ES1371) anyone know anythign about this? im running unstable. xmms thinks sound is playing but nothing coming out of headfones |
| 07:39.14 | fooz | what if dpkg had jugs but was male |
| 07:39.14 | *** join/#debian HAUMESSER (n=HAUMESSE@dhcp-41-211.u-strasbg.fr) |
| 07:39.15 | rend5 | streuner: i cant for another 8 hours |
| 07:39.16 | Phated | streuner: Not unless you build it, and with all the right flags. ;) |
| 07:39.20 | fooz | which is more likely (look in a mirror, guys) |
| 07:39.35 | peterS | !gender |
| 07:39.35 | dpkg | I'm pregnant |
| 07:39.36 | Gnea | fusQuanto: aumix? |
| 07:39.40 | Gnea | oh. |
| 07:39.44 | peterS | apparently she *is* female |
| 07:39.44 | rend5 | streuner: any recommendations on which i should buy? |
| 07:39.45 | streuner | Phated: it seems to me he need 2.6.12 kernel as well: http://sourceforge.net/projects/ax88178 |
| 07:39.45 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:39.55 | Phated | streuner: Eep. |
| 07:39.56 | *** join/#debian GUGLIELMI_ (n=GUGLIELM@dhcp-41-212.u-strasbg.fr) |
| 07:39.57 | fusQuanto | Gnea: ? |
| 07:40.04 | GUGLIELMI_ | hello |
| 07:40.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 721] by debhelper |
| 07:40.07 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: s/, if dpkg was female// |
| 07:40.13 | uwe | hi, my debian doesnt see cd cdrom/rw at all, no /dev/cdrom or /dev/hdc or something similar, and it wont eject when i press the eject button, any ideas? |
| 07:40.17 | Gnea | fusQuanto: mixers don't work? |
| 07:40.21 | peterS | I wish people still knew how to use the subjunctive in English |
| 07:40.33 | Gnea | uwe: check the cables |
| 07:40.33 | peterS | it's such a beautiful mood |
| 07:40.34 | fusQuanto | Gnea: i have it set to /dev/mixer anyways how do i check for that |
| 07:40.39 | HAUMESSER | hyyyyy |
| 07:40.41 | streuner | rend5: just use 'usenet' (groups.google.com) and search for in combination with debian sarge |
| 07:40.47 | Gnea | fusQuanto: apt-get install aumix |
| 07:40.49 | GUGLIELMI_ | bonjous |
| 07:40.50 | Phated | peterS: Oh, dear, I don't even know what that is. |
| 07:40.51 | GUGLIELMI_ | bonjours |
| 07:40.56 | uwe | Gnea, it work on boot just fine, i can boot from it |
| 07:40.56 | *** join/#debian EspeonEefi (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) |
| 07:41.18 | peterS | Phated: "if dpkg were female" instead of "if dpkg was female". 'were' is past tense subjunctive and is used for statements known to be false |
| 07:41.23 | GUGLIELMI_ | Vive les cours d'Info à la fac de chimie ! |
| 07:41.24 | fooz | uwe, if you booted from it, and you're running from it, linux probably won't let you eject it |
| 07:41.32 | Gnea | !fr |
| 07:41.33 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 07:41.33 | HAUMESSER | and fuck Linux! |
| 07:41.39 | nyingen | peterS: yeah, but it's on the way out = ) |
| 07:41.40 | *** join/#debian monster (n=mm@195.69.81.212) |
| 07:41.48 | Phated | peterS: I... see. Thanks! :) |
| 07:41.49 | streuner | peterS: /j #english-grammar |
| 07:41.50 | liable | how did i know the would be trolls? |
| 07:41.51 | peterS | nyingen: that makes me sad. I love the subjunctive. |
| 07:41.59 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: please? |
| 07:42.02 | uwe | fooz, No, i boot from HD, but i know it works because i CAN boot from it |
| 07:42.11 | Gnea | !ops HAUMESSER is flame bait. |
| 07:42.11 | nyingen | peterS: well, Swedish already lost all the case endings for present tense verbs = ) |
| 07:42.12 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: HAUMESSER is flame bait. |
| 07:42.15 | uwe | ie, i tried and it worked |
| 07:42.21 | nyingen | peterS: I eat, you eat, he eat, they eat, etc |
| 07:42.30 | rend5 | Phated, streuner: i think my card may have the the ASIX 8817x chips |
| 07:42.35 | fusQuanto | Gnea: still nothing :( i just got aumix, restarted xmms, played with all the oss output configs. what else can you think of? |
| 07:42.35 | fooz | nah he's not trolling. he's suggesting to make sweet love to linux |
| 07:42.45 | rend5 | how do i check? |
| 07:42.53 | peterS | nyingen: oh, those aren't case endings but conjugations. close enough though (: |
| 07:42.54 | Phated | <shrug> Dunno. Ask streuner. |
| 07:43.00 | *** join/#debian lobz (n=lobz@fs1.wit-sys.hu) |
| 07:43.01 | nyingen | peterS: it's late |
| 07:43.22 | *** join/#debian Astinus (i=iBook@freenode/staff/gentoo.astinus) |
| 07:43.26 | peterS | nyingen: cases are things like nominative/accusative/dative/genitive, i.e., ways to use a noun in a sentence |
| 07:43.32 | fusQuanto | Gnea: ahh i just loaded up aumix. is there anyways i can send stuff to the speakres wihtout using xmms, just to test |
| 07:43.33 | streuner | rend5: you already told us - lsusb... |
| 07:43.36 | nyingen | peterS: I'm aware, but thanks |
| 07:43.54 | Gnea | fusQuanto: cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp |
| 07:43.59 | streuner | rend5: or grep the 'dmesg' |
| 07:44.01 | Gnea | fusQuanto: should get static |
| 07:44.04 | *** join/#debian MoDaX (n=nth@2002:d47a:474e:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 07:44.08 | *** join/#debian ircdevil (n=maasha@130.226.106.174) |
| 07:44.12 | rend5 | hmm |
| 07:44.23 | uwe | when i do lsmod, i get "cdrom 41088 1 ide_cd", how can i know which device is using it? |
| 07:44.24 | streuner | rend5: less /var/log/messages might help too |
| 07:44.29 | peterS | nyingen: does swedish have case endings for nouns, then? I have no idea |
| 07:44.33 | rend5 | ASIX AX88172 maybe instead of 88178 |
| 07:44.35 | *** join/#debian imex (n=imex@CPE000f3d5a9e97-CM0011aea115e6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 07:44.58 | nyingen | peterS: no, I just misused the word. It has case for pronouns, but not other words, generally |
| 07:44.58 | ircdevil | what is this flock thing - and why dont we have a factoid explaining it? |
| 07:45.04 | imex | hiya everyone |
| 07:45.06 | *** join/#debian johny (n=johny@nobugconsulting.ro) |
| 07:45.15 | peterS | nyingen: ah, like German, then |
| 07:45.32 | ircdevil | @flock |
| 07:45.33 | imex | need some help on running rpm packages |
| 07:45.33 | *** join/#debian bwana147_ (n=cbouvi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-160-224.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 07:45.41 | fusQuanto | Gnea: no static :( whats hte next step? |
| 07:45.42 | peterS | imex: install 'alien' and use that |
| 07:45.46 | ircdevil | imex apt-get install alien && man alien |
| 07:45.57 | ircdevil | peterS: grrr :o) |
| 07:46.09 | nyingen | peterS: sort of, but there aren't as many as in german. |
| 07:46.13 | imex | everytime i type apt get, it says cant find apt |
| 07:46.19 | *** join/#debian bend-a (n=juergens@isf218.isf.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 07:46.22 | ircdevil | imex: apt-get use the - |
| 07:46.25 | peterS | ircdevil: you should switch the letters of your nick and become evilircd |
| 07:46.34 | imex | it says command not found |
| 07:46.40 | peterS | ircdevil: ...or are you not some irc server implementation? |
| 07:46.58 | liable | imex: how the hell did you get a debian system without apt-get? |
| 07:47.08 | nyingen | heh |
| 07:47.12 | peterS | liable: I think he's typing "apt get" instead of "apt-get" |
| 07:47.14 | evilircd | aptitude - dselect |
| 07:47.44 | peterS | imex: use 'apt-get' with the hyphen in it. or just 'aptitude' instead, which is better for most things |
| 07:48.03 | imex | i m trying now |
| 07:48.13 | evilircd | anyone tested this flock beta browser thingy? |
| 07:48.52 | fusQuanto | Gnea: ok i got sound in /dev/dspW |
| 07:48.53 | fusQuanto | wtf |
| 07:48.58 | rend5 | hmm apparently usbnet should work for my card |
| 07:49.03 | imex | yeah that worked with the quote |
| 07:49.14 | imex | thanks peterS |
| 07:49.19 | peterS | imex: no need for quotes, just the - in the middle |
| 07:49.21 | *** join/#debian dimir (n=dimir@195.244.157.151) |
| 07:49.36 | rend5 | AX88178 chip = wrong... i think |
| 07:49.51 | streuner | rend5: why? |
| 07:50.00 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:50.13 | *** join/#debian firepoop (n=rockabil@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 07:50.47 | rend5 | why wouldnt the power light be on, on my usb device? |
| 07:51.05 | streuner | http://www.qbik.ch/usb/devices/showdr.php?id=164 |
| 07:51.22 | streuner | This driver was written as a first pass for a OSS software class. I could not find any released driver in any kernel releases on kernel.org or LKML.org linux-usb.org so I thought I would put a release here. Jamie Painter also appears to have released a version for the 2.4 kernel series. |
| 07:51.49 | rend5 | streuner : dude! |
| 07:52.03 | imex | how do u start alien |
| 07:52.06 | streuner | you gave us this link |
| 07:52.09 | ircdevil | rend5: you have been hacked |
| 07:52.13 | streuner | imex: why? |
| 07:52.17 | rend5 | ASIX AX88172 (10/100 Ethernet Adapter) http://www.linux-usb.org/usb2.html |
| 07:52.41 | *** join/#debian asultanpur (n=user@61.95.201.131) |
| 07:52.44 | rend5 | ircdevil: how so? |
| 07:52.56 | peterS | rend5: I hacked you and turned off your power light |
| 07:53.09 | ircdevil | rend5: pun |
| 07:53.35 | rend5 | petemc: and i hacked you dick off |
| 07:53.38 | imex | i be bak |
| 07:53.45 | peterS | haha. poor petemc. |
| 07:53.48 | rend5 | hehe |
| 07:53.53 | streuner | rend5: modprobe usbnet |
| 07:53.59 | peterS | rend5: he gets my messages all the time. this one was good though |
| 07:54.16 | ircdevil | peterS: does petemc check logs? |
| 07:54.25 | streuner | rend5: what error you got with that? |
| 07:54.36 | *** part/#debian Logi (i=logir@klaki.net) |
| 07:54.42 | peterS | ircdevil: yeah. I get his highlights occasionally too, but usually it's him getting mine |
| 07:54.56 | ircdevil | peterS: heh (; |
| 07:55.12 | rend5 | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:55.22 | *** join/#debian usn_work (n=usn@p54B5A242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:55.38 | peterS | oh, I didn't notice the semicolon there. sure enough, my emoticon is harder than it looks |
| 07:55.40 | streuner | rend5: what does 'ifconfig' say? |
| 07:55.56 | *** join/#debian knj (n=kaspernj@cpe.atm2-0-7389.0x535981ea.naenxx9.customer.tele.dk) |
| 07:56.20 | rend5 | streuner: only lo |
| 07:56.44 | *** join/#debian revilhp (n=phliver@host-255-242-9-69.midco.net) |
| 07:56.45 | streuner | rend5: and /var/log/messages? |
| 07:57.16 | revilhp | hey have something to put in my sources.list its just a website like http://honk.sigxcpu.org/linux-ppc/debian/mplayer/ but how is the "deb" line supposed to look? i can't seem to get this to update |
| 07:57.35 | rend5 | streuner: usbcore registered new driver usbnet |
| 07:57.42 | *** join/#debian jgonzalez (n=jgonzale@187.Red-80-26-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:57.48 | streuner | rend5: did the kernel regonises the NIC? |
| 07:58.01 | rend5 | i dont know |
| 07:58.19 | *** join/#debian verenal (n=verenal@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:58.20 | *** join/#debian jolly- (n=hrhr@bo11836.hit.no) |
| 07:58.21 | *** part/#debian verenal (n=verenal@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:58.22 | *** part/#debian jgonzalez (n=jgonzale@187.Red-80-26-93.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 07:58.29 | jolly- | have anyone here tried to install novel client on debian? |
| 07:58.30 | *** part/#debian pabs3 (n=pabs@dsl-202-72-168-241.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 07:58.33 | streuner | rend5: setup interfaces |
| 07:58.49 | jolly- | i know that the novell client comes for red hat and suse as a .rpm package |
| 07:59.01 | jolly- | any idea if that will work to install on debian? |
| 07:59.02 | streuner | rend5: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 07:59.12 | peterS | jolly-: novell client? what kind of novell client? |
| 07:59.18 | *** part/#debian revilhp (n=phliver@host-255-242-9-69.midco.net) |
| 07:59.18 | *** join/#debian pwinnertz (n=Patrick@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:59.24 | jolly- | peterS netware |
| 07:59.36 | peterS | jolly-: debian has a package called ncpfs, if you just need to mount netware volumes on your filesystem |
| 07:59.45 | *** part/#debian pwinnertz (n=Patrick@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 07:59.48 | jolly- | peterS some people said its not safe |
| 07:59.59 | jolly- | that it is a security risk to use |
| 08:00.04 | *** join/#debian liable_ (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 08:00.40 | rend5 | <streuner> rend5: setup interfaces |
| 08:00.47 | streuner | rend5: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 08:00.48 | *** join/#debian Ecnassianer (n=ecna@crown-6-251.resnet.ucsc.edu) |
| 08:00.59 | rend5 | umm |
| 08:01.06 | peterS | jolly-: "client for netware" is too vague though. there are several services offered by Novell Netware which you might wish to use on a linux box |
| 08:01.12 | *** join/#debian estupendocero (n=alexande@adsl-63-204-104-45.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net) |
| 08:01.14 | nyingen | people still use netware? |
| 08:01.22 | peterS | jolly-: for example there is libpam-ncp for using NDS as your login server |
| 08:01.40 | *** join/#debian _eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 08:01.42 | streuner | nyingen: there are people who swear on it, yes... |
| 08:01.58 | peterS | nyingen: anyone who wants real directory services is probably using NDS. the competition (Active Directory, openldap) is a joke if your database gets big enough |
| 08:02.29 | nyingen | that's cool, I just haven't run into it lately |
| 08:02.45 | nyingen | thankfully I don't have to do admin work anymore = ) |
| 08:03.10 | peterS | nyingen: using novell for *file service* has been on a steady decline since, say, 1995. but Novell still has its loyal customers |
| 08:03.23 | nyingen | yeah, that's what I was thinking of |
| 08:03.28 | nyingen | IPX and all that |
| 08:03.49 | peterS | right, Novell switched to TCP/IP quite awhile back. they realised IPX had no future |
| 08:03.57 | estupendocero | Totem consistently crashes, claiming that something else is using the video output. To the best of my knowledge nothing is. I've googled the error message with no helpful results. I'm running ubuntu (breezy), I asked in #ubuntu but apparently nobody could help. Any ideas? |
| 08:04.08 | rend5 | streuner: how do I setup interfaces where I dont even have a ifconfig usb0 |
| 08:04.18 | estupendocero | I can paste the error message in #flood, if anyone's interested. |
| 08:04.22 | peterS | rend5: does 'ifconfig -a' list it? |
| 08:04.28 | peterS | rend5: the -a is needed if the interface is not yet configured |
| 08:04.34 | rend5 | no |
| 08:04.43 | rend5 | i know |
| 08:06.06 | peterS | rend5: so you've loaded the usbnet module and it doesn't seem to find your hardware? |
| 08:06.09 | *** join/#debian Blackhold (n=laura@130.Red-80-38-54.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:06.11 | *** join/#debian empty_mind (i=shark@dialpool-210-214-24-156.maa.sify.net) |
| 08:06.37 | rend5 | peter: correct |
| 08:07.17 | peterS | rend5: anything in the output of 'dmesg | tail' to illuminate the situation with usbnet? like if it did in fact detect your chip but decided it couldn't use it, or something? |
| 08:07.19 | Blackhold | hello, I'm looking for the application that allows to put your firefox browser in various languages (now I'm using windows :( ) someone knows where I could allocate the application? thanks |
| 08:07.32 | streuner | rend5: what does 'lsusb' say again? |
| 08:07.41 | empty_mind | i have to install debian on 27 machine and only one machine has a cdrom drive. Is there a way to install debian on other machines without using cdrom or floppy? Can i install debian over the network? |
| 08:07.53 | peterS | Blackhold: like what language? firefox has debian packages representing dozens of languages |
| 08:07.55 | rend5 | peter: nothing extra said |
| 08:08.10 | xelam|bed | empty_mind: if they will boot from network yes |
| 08:08.13 | Blackhold | empty_mind: use a ghost throug net |
| 08:08.43 | empty_mind | is ghost available for linux? i thought its availble for windows only |
| 08:08.47 | rend5 | streuner: something about ASIX Electronics |
| 08:09.01 | *** join/#debian basanta (n=nepali@202.79.37.177) |
| 08:09.04 | xelam|bed | empty_mind: dd is. |
| 08:09.11 | streuner | rend5: we need all infos... |
| 08:09.16 | peterS | Blackhold: firefox supports 39 languages in Debian. which ones did you need? |
| 08:09.22 | Blackhold | peterS: One time I'd seen a menu selector in webbrowser that you could change the language of the browser, the languages shall be catalan, spanish, english, japanesse, chinesse and german |
| 08:09.26 | rend5 | streuner: it is the same as earlier |
| 08:09.49 | Blackhold | peterS: the user can change the language throug browser |
| 08:10.21 | peterS | Blackhold: those languages are all supported in debian. once you install those langauge packs, I don't know how firefox lets you pick the interface language, whether it has any simple menu for it or what |
| 08:10.24 | rend5 | bus 001 device 002: id 0b95:7720 ASIX Electronics Corp |
| 08:10.45 | Blackhold | peterS: I know what languages are supported in firefox |
| 08:10.50 | peterS | Blackhold: the usual thing to do is for each user to pick his/her own language for *everything*, and once that is set, firefox will probably honor it the same way other apps do |
| 08:11.16 | Blackhold | I'm looking for the tool that allows to get some language packages in the same firefox |
| 08:11.39 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@ppp-82-135-68-52.mnet-online.de) |
| 08:11.43 | peterS | Blackhold: install the debian packages mozilla-firefox-zh-cn, mozilla-firefox-ca, etc. |
| 08:11.58 | peterS | Blackhold: they can certainly all coexist |
| 08:12.23 | peterS | Blackhold: I mean mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn, mozilla-firefox-locale-ca, etc. |
| 08:12.25 | *** join/#debian Scorpion_Script (i=exodusob@200.77.90.103) |
| 08:12.27 | *** part/#debian Blackhold (n=laura@130.Red-80-38-54.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:12.37 | rend5 | peters; streuner: i guess you guys have no idea now? |
| 08:12.54 | peterS | rend5: I don't have any experience with USB ethernet hardware in debian |
| 08:13.10 | Scorpion_Script | h |
| 08:13.25 | rend5 | i feel like i am in te middle of a guessing game |
| 08:13.35 | peterS | rend5: I *do* notice that 0x0b95,0x7720 is supported by usbnet |
| 08:13.52 | peterS | rend5: (this from /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-k7/modules.usbmap) |
| 08:14.06 | *** part/#debian Scorpion_Script (i=exodusob@200.77.90.103) |
| 08:14.17 | rend5 | then why doesnt the power light come on too |
| 08:14.30 | peterS | rend5: have you got the 'ehci_hcd' module loaded? |
| 08:15.17 | rend5 | my usb port is 1 but the device is 2 |
| 08:15.17 | rend5 | it worke in windows |
| 08:15.29 | rend5 | peter: hmm dunno |
| 08:15.42 | peterS | rend5: oh if the USB port is only USB 1.1, ehci_hcd will not do anything |
| 08:16.06 | peterS | rend5: you can verify this, btw, with the following: lspci -v | awk '/USB/{print $NF}' |
| 08:16.18 | peterS | rend5: it'll print one or more lines indicating UHCI, OHCI and/or EHCI. EHCI is USB 2.0 |
| 08:18.03 | streuner | or he just install one and use it in sarge |
| 08:18.08 | *** join/#debian dns_server (n=dns@ppp229-99.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net) |
| 08:19.10 | peterS | rend5: aha. streuner gave the clue. your chip is supported in 'usbnet' from kernel 2.6.12, but not from kernel 2.6.11. so it's a recent addition. |
| 08:19.33 | streuner | heh |
| 08:19.42 | bibe | streuner : can an etch or sarge linux-image (compiled with gcc-4.0) be used straight on a sarge system? |
| 08:19.44 | *** part/#debian iLL_Afk (n=neener@user-0can1fc.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 08:20.05 | streuner | rend5: you heard it, get 2.6.12 as deb and install it by hand |
| 08:20.08 | *** mode/#debian [+l 712] by debhelper |
| 08:20.12 | rend5 | ohci |
| 08:20.29 | rend5 | hmm |
| 08:20.37 | peterS | rend5: right, ohci is USB 1.1 only. but we figured out your problem - you probably do not have a new enough kernel. only 2.6.12 and newer support your chip in usbnet |
| 08:20.51 | rend5 | streuner: compile needed? |
| 08:21.12 | rend5 | 2.6.8 |
| 08:21.13 | peterS | rend5: are you using stable (sarge) or unstable (sid)? |
| 08:21.14 | streuner | rend5: i want rather that you don't need to compile a kernel... |
| 08:21.22 | streuner | sarge |
| 08:21.24 | rend5 | stable |
| 08:22.08 | *** join/#debian Mage\work (n=jcigar@bebif01.ulb.ac.be) |
| 08:22.11 | Mage\work | hello |
| 08:22.14 | streuner | he just can try it, if it doesn't work he need to compile... |
| 08:22.29 | bibe | rend5 : I use to get a linux-source from etch or sid (currently, I am using 2.6.14 from sid) and compile it on my sarge system, since I don't know if I can use a gcc4-compiled kernel onto a gcc3.3 system |
| 08:22.42 | peterS | streuner: the question is the tools - sarge initrd-tools may or may not work with 2.6.12 |
| 08:23.01 | Mage\work | I'm upgrading an old box and I get this messages : "E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option." Is it safe to activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option ? |
| 08:23.06 | *** join/#debian rend (n=cracker@cpe-67-10-81-6.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 08:23.10 | rend | <rend5> so what should i do now? burn a cd? |
| 08:23.17 | peterS | bibe: the compiler isn't a problem, the problem is whether sarge 'initrd-tools' works for new kernels |
| 08:23.19 | rend | bloody hell |
| 08:23.30 | Mage\work | the box has not been updated for a year and my old colleague mixed stable/testing/unstable packages |
| 08:23.43 | bibe | peterS : thank you |
| 08:24.23 | peterS | bibe: and according to the declared dependency relationships, sarge *does* have a new enough initrd-tools for debian kernel 2.6.12 |
| 08:24.30 | rend | where is the kernel x86 that I need? |
| 08:24.33 | *** join/#debian jerry (n=ArtVanda@ppp94-178.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net) |
| 08:24.36 | valdyn | Mage\work: its not an immediate problem to remove e2fsprogs |
| 08:24.37 | *** join/#debian imex (n=imex@CPE000f3d5a9e97-CM0011aea115e6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 08:24.47 | peterS | rend: http://packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 should work |
| 08:25.01 | bibe | peterS: I just didn't know and used make-kpkg to get a gcc3.3 compiled kernel directly from source (and using essentially Debian's linux-image .config) |
| 08:25.17 | Mage\work | so you're 100% sure that activating "APT::Force-LoopBreak" will not break anything ? |
| 08:25.17 | rend | will that work on amd k6? |
| 08:25.31 | Mage\work | it's the production server, I can't missed it |
| 08:25.31 | *** join/#debian zerocoder (n=zerocode@port-ip-213-211-228-115.reverse.mdcc-fun.de) |
| 08:25.32 | valdyn | Mage\work: though.. are you using the recommended way to dist-upgrade woody->sarge ? |
| 08:25.39 | peterS | rend: no, won't work on k6. it'll work on k7 (athlon). |
| 08:25.42 | streuner | rend: just search on pdo for 'k7' kernels |
| 08:25.52 | Mage\work | valdyn: my old colleague installed it as a pig |
| 08:25.55 | streuner | !pdo |
| 08:25.55 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 08:26.08 | peterS | rend: if you have a K6, you need to use linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 instead |
| 08:26.13 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 08:26.24 | rend | hehe |
| 08:26.26 | streuner | !k7 |
| 08:26.26 | dpkg | i guess k7 is the generic model name for the series of AMD i386-compatible processors which begins with the "Athlon" and also includes the "Duron", "Thunderbird", "Sempron" and "Athlon XP" processors. It does not include the Opteron (k8) family or the older K5 or K6 chips. |
| 08:26.38 | *** join/#debian Mirrie (n=Mirrie@c-82-192-226-48.customer.ggaweb.ch) |
| 08:27.04 | peterS | rend: I just assumed you had a 686-class CPU, since almost everyone asking questions here does. I guessed wrong. |
| 08:27.07 | valdyn | Mage\work: i sure cannot guarantee you anything as minor upgrades change _alot_ on various individual software packages, and that is obviously not even touching the whole upgrade process |
| 08:27.11 | Mage\work | I'm pretty sure hes hasn't followed the woddy -> sarge guide |
| 08:27.31 | fireba11 | lol obviously k7 series won't include k5 and k6 ^^ |
| 08:27.33 | *** join/#debian maja (n=maja@wbs-146-186-99.telkomadsl.co.za) |
| 08:27.52 | dns_server | what opengl libraries do we need to have installed? there are a veriety of packages in sid, i'm not shure which one should be installed |
| 08:27.53 | *** join/#debian aris_ (n=aris@202.164.182.82) |
| 08:27.57 | valdyn | Mage\work: all im saying that if e2fsprogs gets removed temporarily, that cannot be an issue ) |
| 08:28.13 | streuner | rend: i386 will work in any case |
| 08:28.19 | *** join/#debian ski (n=slj@84-217-96-246.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 08:28.19 | peterS | fireba11: his real question was whether the 686 kernel supports the k6. that answer ("no, it won't work") is not nearly as obvious |
| 08:28.20 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 08:28.42 | Mage\work | what I fear is that e2fsprogs cannot be installed afted the upgrading processes due to broken dependencies |
| 08:28.50 | aris_ | anyone uses postfix here? |
| 08:28.54 | fireba11 | peterS i just thought dpkgs info is a bit stupid :-) |
| 08:28.56 | bibe | aris_ : me |
| 08:28.58 | ski | how to configure sshd to allow connections from outside ? |
| 08:28.59 | peterS | aris_: ask your real question |
| 08:29.11 | valdyn | Mage\work: you're trying to get this to plain sarge I suppose? |
| 08:29.12 | peterS | aris_: if you just wanted to know if anyone used postfix, you could have learned that at http://popcon.debian.org/ |
| 08:29.13 | streuner | ski: man sshd_config |
| 08:29.28 | ski | streuner : ty, i'll look |
| 08:30.03 | Mage\work | valdyn: since testing branch has now security support I want to switch the server to testing |
| 08:30.19 | rend | do i have the worse laptop in the channel? |
| 08:30.19 | rend | but i guess i am very close now? |
| 08:30.26 | Mage\work | now it's a dirty mix of stable/testing/unstable + packages from unofficial repositories |
| 08:30.36 | peterS | rend: heh. don't know who has the worst laptop in the channel. (: |
| 08:30.43 | *** join/#debian gorga (n=roddyck@203.130.206.48) |
| 08:30.45 | streuner | rend: you have piece of shit NIC, not very well supported |
| 08:30.54 | dns_server | what mesa package should i use in sid? |
| 08:30.58 | peterS | streuner: now that's not true, it's just a *new* NIC. |
| 08:31.01 | valdyn | Mage\work: i wouldnt do that, i honestly dont know how good testing security is, but testing does have plenty issues. Thats not "broken" packages mainly, but *missing* packages. |
| 08:31.14 | streuner | peterS: that's what i meant :-) |
| 08:31.43 | rend | this nic cost me $4 |
| 08:31.43 | valdyn | Mage\work: alright, you cannot safely upgrade that hybridic system to anything safely ( except probably sid, but sid isnt "safe" at all ) |
| 08:31.45 | Mage\work | valdyn: to be honest I run the testing branch since 2 years on another server and never gets in troubles |
| 08:31.57 | *** part/#debian gorga (n=roddyck@203.130.206.48) |
| 08:31.57 | peterS | rend: well, streuner might be right about its quality then (: |
| 08:32.27 | rend | router was $8-10 |
| 08:32.31 | valdyn | Mage\work: as long as you are sticking to packages that dont run into many problems, that's what you experience, yea. Most server-relevant packages are like that. |
| 08:32.43 | *** part/#debian dns_server (n=dns@ppp229-99.lns2.adl4.internode.on.net) |
| 08:33.20 | streuner | and its great hardware |
| 08:33.29 | peterS | 3com ISA? that could be anything - the 3c509 was cool, the 3c501 was ... not |
| 08:33.44 | aris_ | bibe, do you know how to implement user restriction in postfix? |
| 08:33.53 | rend | but the card is very new |
| 08:33.56 | aris_ | peterS, do you know how to implement user restriction in postfix? |
| 08:34.03 | streuner | eth0: 3c509 at 0x300 tag 1, 10baseT port, address 00 10 4b c3 e0 a9, IRQ 10. |
| 08:34.34 | rend | it seems like typically the cheapest hw has linux support |
| 08:34.46 | imex | this is weired, didnt change anything, now i cannot mount data cd but can run audio cd |
| 08:35.04 | imex | it says /media/cdrom0 does not exist |
| 08:35.08 | peterS | ha, the yaird Depends line is funny. perl (>= 5.6.0-16) along with libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1) |
| 08:35.36 | imex | and yet cdrom is pointed to cdrom0 |
| 08:35.42 | peterS | imex: don't know why this happened but you can probably fix it with 'mkdir' |
| 08:35.46 | eleftherios | How can I read a USB flash drive? I have the module usb-storage loaded but there are no /dev/sd* links created...Any pointers please? |
| 08:35.59 | peterS | eleftherios: you also need the 'sd_mod' module loaded |
| 08:36.01 | valdyn | eleftherios: is sd_mod loaded? |
| 08:36.02 | imex | i should mkdir cdrom0? |
| 08:36.11 | *** join/#debian Eli (n=invitado@dsl-201-133-93-58.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 08:36.12 | imex | in the media dir? |
| 08:36.13 | peterS | imex: /media/cdrom0, not to be confused with /dev/cdrom0 |
| 08:36.13 | eleftherios | peterS, valdyn I wasn't aware of that |
| 08:36.31 | eleftherios | it is not loaded, no |
| 08:36.32 | rend | why shouldnt i get http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/linux-image-2.6.14-1-386 |
| 08:36.47 | peterS | rend: let me check the dependencies, see if that one's likely to work on sarge |
| 08:36.49 | streuner | rend: i wouldn't define it so, but its usually correct :-) |
| 08:36.50 | valdyn | rend: b/c it depends on alot more non-sarge packages |
| 08:36.51 | rend | and do i just need that one package? |
| 08:36.56 | *** join/#debian Bayne (n=fred@62.68.66.42) |
| 08:37.02 | *** part/#debian Eli (n=invitado@dsl-201-133-93-58.prod-infinitum.com.mx) |
| 08:37.12 | rend | i see |
| 08:37.33 | ski | streuner : hm, i don't see which option i should use to say what hosts are allowed to connect from the outside .. |
| 08:37.34 | peterS | rend: right, that one will *not* work because the sarge initrd-tools is no longer good enough to generate a proper initrd |
| 08:37.44 | ski | or is that specified somewhere else ? |
| 08:37.48 | rend | so do i just need to burn just that kernel then? |
| 08:37.55 | peterS | rend: instead you should use 'yaird' to generate the initrd, but yaird is not available in sarge so it would have to be backported |
| 08:38.10 | rend | arg |
| 08:38.18 | peterS | rend: I believe nobse (norbert tretkowski) was talking about backporting yaird for new kernels in sarge but I don't see it on his site (http://backports.org) |
| 08:38.26 | imex | let me try boot with the cd and c what happens |
| 08:38.31 | imex | cyaz all in abit |
| 08:38.32 | rend | im on a windows box with the burner right now |
| 08:38.36 | peterS | rend: anyway, the 2.6.12 one ought to work |
| 08:38.38 | Bayne | i hosed up my nvidia driver by stupidly installing one from dpkg and now i have to reinstall it after every reboot anyone have any ideas how i can make my driver "stick"? |
| 08:39.11 | valdyn | Bayne: echo nvidia >> /etc/modules |
| 08:39.34 | rend | Peter: should i burn anything else right now? |
| 08:40.12 | peterS | rend: can't think of anything else offhand. with any luck, the 2.6.12 kernel will work and you'll have your network up and then you can download anything you want directly |
| 08:41.08 | rend | cool |
| 08:41.29 | bibe | aris_ : still there? Explain user restriction, please |
| 08:41.32 | rend | 'with any luck' i need some of that |
| 08:41.51 | *** join/#debian JW (n=jw@216.206.23.114) |
| 08:41.53 | ski | streuner : currently it only allows connections over localhost |
| 08:42.03 | Bayne | valdyn: nada |
| 08:42.10 | peterS | ok then |
| 08:42.13 | peterS | !bless rend |
| 08:42.16 | dpkg | O $DEITY, bless your child rend, who is about to do something stupid and needs all the help you can give. Amen. |
| 08:42.24 | *** join/#debian faljse (n=martin@chello212186072092.5.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 08:42.46 | rend | thanks :) |
| 08:42.53 | *** join/#debian svizzero (n=svizzero@host150-21.pool873.interbusiness.it) |
| 08:43.09 | valdyn | Bayne: you'd have to reboot first or manually run 'modprobe nvidia' |
| 08:43.30 | *** join/#debian imex (n=imex@CPE000f3d5a9e97-CM0011aea115e6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 08:43.39 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua@61.235.119.137) |
| 08:43.47 | aris_ | bibe, i want some email to send / recieve only from/to its own domain |
| 08:43.56 | aris_ | bibe, while others are unlimited |
| 08:44.36 | Bayne | ok ran modprobe nvidia. no response. ran echo nvidia... no respons |
| 08:45.02 | valdyn | Bayne: so? |
| 08:45.17 | valdyn | Bayne: no response expected, unless you run that command in a console |
| 08:45.25 | Bayne | i did |
| 08:45.33 | valdyn | Bayne: startx.. |
| 08:45.42 | Bayne | im in x |
| 08:45.54 | valdyn | Bayne: well, all is fine then isnt it? |
| 08:46.04 | *** join/#debian nukis (n=user@219.131.235.107) |
| 08:46.05 | valdyn | Bayne: X doesnt offer you a console anyhow, just terminals |
| 08:46.08 | Bayne | i have to reinstall nvidia every reboot |
| 08:46.11 | bibe | aris_ : I don't think you can restrict receving mail by username, postfix will recognize a whole domain as local or remote. But I think relaying can be tweaked, although I don't know how |
| 08:46.11 | rend | so do i just run dpkg on the file? |
| 08:46.29 | Mirrie | I have 2 Debian pcs: Orion with 2.4.18-bf2.4 and Leo with 2.6.8-2-k7. Web browsing on Leo is very slow even though both inetd.conf are identical. Output from dig on the two machines shows no difference. They both connect via a Debian firewall. What/where should I check next? |
| 08:46.33 | imex | thinking of reinstall again |
| 08:46.35 | rend | so do i just run dpkg on the file (trying to change kernel)? |
| 08:46.42 | eleftherios | valdyn, what's the name I should use for sd_mod in /etc/modules? 'sd-mod', 'sdmod', or 'sd_mod'? |
| 08:46.43 | valdyn | Bayne: so reboot and see if that works now |
| 08:46.55 | Bayne | ok |
| 08:47.00 | valdyn | eleftherios: sd_mod and sd-mod are the same for this. dont use sdmod |
| 08:47.04 | *** join/#debian dvsdude (n=Michael@CPE-144-131-196-182.qld.bigpond.net.au) |
| 08:47.06 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 08:47.07 | rend | peterS? |
| 08:47.10 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@254.68.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 08:47.12 | bibe | aris_ : are you using mysql authentication or only local users? |
| 08:47.12 | eleftherios | valdyn, ok, thank you |
| 08:47.16 | ma3x | !kdm |
| 08:47.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, kdm is the KDE Display Manager - an even swankier version of xdm, for the K Desktop user |
| 08:47.29 | rend | !kernel |
| 08:47.30 | peterS | rend? |
| 08:47.31 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.14, snapshot: 2.6.14-git11, 2.4: 2.4.31, prepatch: 2.4.32-rc2, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.14-mm1 |
| 08:47.33 | aris_ | bibe, ldap |
| 08:47.45 | rend | <rend> so do i just run dpkg on the file (trying to change kernel)? |
| 08:47.47 | dvsdude | !tell dvsdude sata |
| 08:47.51 | *** join/#debian Pecisk (n=peterisk@purvc44-54.maksinets.lv) |
| 08:47.57 | peterS | rend: right, 'dpkg -i linux-image-whatever.deb' |
| 08:48.03 | aris_ | bibe, some say its smptd_restriction_clasess |
| 08:48.10 | eleftherios | thank you peterS & valdyn =) |
| 08:48.27 | *** join/#debian kioto (n=kioto@81-208-83-237.fastres.net) |
| 08:48.29 | kioto | hi all |
| 08:48.58 | *** join/#debian panthera (n=daniel@panthera-systems.net) |
| 08:48.59 | kioto | where i can get other mirrors for apt source.list files |
| 08:49.10 | peterS | kioto: run 'apt-setup' |
| 08:49.47 | rend | peter: so I reboot now? |
| 08:49.51 | *** join/#debian RoboNuggie (n=RoboNugg@adsl-83-100-141-26.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 08:49.53 | kioto | ok peterS |
| 08:50.03 | dvsdude | hey all is there anything i should now about setting up sata drive on debian |
| 08:50.10 | peterS | kioto: alternatively: google.com "mirrors site:debian.org" first hit |
| 08:50.16 | bibe | aris_ : http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/postfix_restriction_classes2.shtml |
| 08:50.29 | *** join/#debian redguy (n=mati@acy201.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 08:50.29 | peterS | (google is very smart) |
| 08:50.31 | *** join/#debian kane_ (n=kane@perl.xs4all.nl) |
| 08:50.37 | bibe | aris_ : you can use /etc/postfix/policy_by_senders |
| 08:50.58 | bibe | peterS : "I feel lucky" |
| 08:50.59 | bibe | :D |
| 08:51.21 | *** join/#debian Bayne (n=fred@62.68.66.42) |
| 08:51.26 | *** join/#debian linex (n=linex@3.Red-80-32-185.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 08:51.55 | Bayne | didn't work |
| 08:52.43 | *** join/#debian andy (n=andy@221.216.191.194) |
| 08:52.44 | aris_ | bibe, ive done that but.. some restricted users can still recieve emails from outside |
| 08:52.58 | rend | peter: the lights came on |
| 08:53.06 | peterS | rend: cool! and ifconfig -a? |
| 08:53.19 | rend | still booting :) |
| 08:53.24 | peterS | ah, heh |
| 08:53.32 | Bayne | hrm i'm still getting signal error 11 |
| 08:54.08 | tarzeau | dvsdude: it just works? |
| 08:54.23 | peterS | Bayne: nothing in debian should ever give you signal 11. that is, of course, *in theory*. in practice the world isn't quite that way. what is crashing on you? |
| 08:54.30 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:54.30 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 08:54.56 | rend | peter: woo hoo!!!!! |
| 08:55.01 | *** join/#debian error403 (n=error500@host81-159-239-123.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:55.19 | *** join/#debian drbombay43 (n=drbombay@adsl-69-230-175-80.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 08:55.22 | peterS | rend: ok so now it's just a matter of setting up /etc/network/interfaces, I guess.. do you know how to do that? 'man 5 interfaces' for the details |
| 08:55.32 | *** join/#debian qiqica (n=fengxuhu@222.94.39.19) |
| 08:55.36 | *** join/#debian rd__ (n=rd@19.20.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 08:55.50 | peterS | !man interfaces |
| 08:55.50 | dpkg | Edit /etc/network/interfaces. For DHCP: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet dhcp For static: auto eth0 (newline) iface eth0 inet static (newline)(tab) address xx.xx.xx.xx (newline)(tab) netmask nn.nn.nn.nn (newline)(tab) gateway gg.gg.gg.gg |
| 08:55.52 | dvsdude | tarzeau, cool from googling i see looks ok i am going to install main debian on ide and add sata as secondary drive then use the 300Gb sata to rsync data from other system to this |
| 08:55.54 | rend | peters: dude I dont have to... dhcp |
| 08:56.04 | peterS | rend: oh so that's already set up? cool. |
| 08:56.11 | *** join/#debian mikal (n=mikal@213.184.199.226) |
| 08:56.11 | bibe | aris_ : did you use check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/allowed_recipients or something like that? |
| 08:56.18 | tarzeau | dvsdude: we made our own kernel with sata support (2.4.31) here. works like a champion |
| 08:56.20 | Bayne | well i can't make my nvidia driver stick. i have to run the shell file every time i reboot to get into x |
| 08:56.34 | *** join/#debian KetuaLembuLaut (n=KLL@202.186.101.151) |
| 08:56.38 | *** join/#debian wdp (n=wdp@lunar-linux/mirror/wdp) |
| 08:56.39 | tarzeau | dvsdude: of course, debian install kernel 2.4 didn't support it |
| 08:56.58 | tarzeau | dvsdude: but d-i is so cool, you can just replace their kernel with one that supports it |
| 08:57.02 | rend | thanks so much everyone |
| 08:57.09 | peterS | no problem |
| 08:57.13 | wdp | warning: SASL authentication failure: cannot connect to Courier authdaemond: No such file or directory |
| 08:57.15 | dvsdude | tarzeau, np i was planning on compiling kernel anyway after install to ide drive |
| 08:57.18 | wdp | warning: dslb-082-083-204-109.pools.arcor-ip.net[82.83.204.109]: SASL LOGIN authentication failed |
| 08:57.28 | wdp | any ideas? |
| 08:57.40 | tarzeau | dvsdude: you can do without a ide driver with the kernel in d-i. can you netboot? |
| 08:57.57 | peterS | ahh, my favorite time of day, 2:57. also the time I should think about going to bed. |
| 08:58.28 | aris_ | bibe, yes |
| 08:58.29 | dvsdude | tarzeau, was planning to boot of netinstall cd then just apt-get install everything via net |
| 08:58.31 | *** join/#debian xinming1983 (n=xinming@60.180.81.85) |
| 08:58.37 | Bayne | what exactly is a signal 11 anyhow? |
| 08:58.44 | peterS | ski: /etc/init.d/ssh force-reload |
| 08:58.45 | tarzeau | dvsdude: your network card is supported? |
| 08:58.49 | kioto | peterS, why if i use apt-cache search quanta i find quanta web development .... |
| 08:59.04 | aris_ | bibe, can you give me a complete configuration for that? |
| 08:59.05 | dvsdude | tarzeau, yes np |
| 08:59.06 | ski | peterS : danke |
| 08:59.08 | kioto | and when i try to install with apt-get install quanta or quanta-web i cannot to be able |
| 08:59.26 | peterS | ski: it does not hurt to restart ssh, though - it will not kill your running ssh session |
| 08:59.28 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 08:59.49 | rend | Peters: now i can go to the bookstores and coffee shops and code while all the lamers on windows play games on computers 10x faster than mine :) |
| 08:59.59 | peterS | rend: haha |
| 09:00.01 | *** join/#debian Ugly_Duck (n=ugly_duc@203-96-150-208.cable.paradise.net.nz) |
| 09:00.02 | dvsdude | tarzeau, was just going to do min install add rsync and leave at that dont need anything fancy gui wise |
| 09:00.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 722] by debhelper |
| 09:00.08 | *** join/#debian war92 (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 09:00.13 | *** part/#debian wdp (n=wdp@lunar-linux/mirror/wdp) |
| 09:00.21 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@254.68.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:00.23 | ski | peterS, hm, it seems 'ListenAddress 0.0.0.0' is wrong .. |
| 09:00.24 | dvsdude | tarzeau, wasnt even going to install gui just do all console |
| 09:00.25 | bibe | aris_ : http://www.stahl.bau.tu-bs.de/~hildeb/postfix/postfix_restriction_classes2.shtml |
| 09:00.34 | bibe | I have to go now |
| 09:00.36 | ma3x | hi ! is there video and voice support for GAIM ? |
| 09:00.40 | aris_ | bibe, ok |
| 09:01.01 | *** join/#debian flawd (n=flawd@c213-89-79-79.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 09:01.15 | peterS | ski: that should work, really. 'man sshd_config' certainly indicates that it is valid |
| 09:01.27 | dvsdude | tarzeau, what do they normally end up as sda or would it be hdb if secondary drive with hda primry |
| 09:01.43 | Bayne | ma3x look for something called gyach! for video and voice |
| 09:01.50 | ski | (i still get Connection refused, when i try to login from outside) |
| 09:01.55 | ma3x | Bayne is that integrated into game? |
| 09:02.01 | Bayne | no |
| 09:02.06 | peterS | ski: what if you omit ListenAddress entirely? |
| 09:02.07 | Bayne | it's a separate program |
| 09:02.14 | ma3x | Bayne: but is it compatible with MSN and Yahoo ? |
| 09:02.19 | Bayne | yahoo yes |
| 09:02.23 | tarzeau | dvsdude: no, like scsi devices |
| 09:02.25 | ma3x | Bayne and MSN? |
| 09:02.26 | ski | peterS : it was omitted previously .. |
| 09:02.27 | sanoj | peterS: I maintain yaird officially, and I have a private backport of it for sarge here: http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool/official/yaird/ (PowerPC) |
| 09:02.28 | Bayne | no |
| 09:02.30 | Bayne | just yahoo |
| 09:02.31 | peterS | ski: this is how you can tell whether the connection refused is a matter of ssh not listening, or some firewall blocking |
| 09:02.31 | flawd | I've googled for a backport of gnome 2.10 to sarge and could only find a developer starting on it. Anyone know the status of this, or if there is some backport available allready that is hidden away somewhere? :) |
| 09:02.39 | ma3x | Bayne ok, thanks |
| 09:02.47 | dvsdude | tarzeau, np |
| 09:03.01 | *** join/#debian SquareRt (n=genesis@kurta.narnia.gamesgalleon.com) |
| 09:03.01 | peterS | sanoj: good to know. so with your yaird, can one install linux-image-2.6.14-* on sarge? |
| 09:03.14 | ski | peterS : hm .. is that the case here ? i.e. firewall blocking ? |
| 09:03.41 | peterS | ski: I'm confused about what works and what doesn't. you say you did not use ListenAddress - did the incoming ssh connection work then? |
| 09:03.44 | *** join/#debian sime (n=sime@c211-30-187-243.rivrw1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 09:03.54 | sanoj | peterS: Correction - the powerpc backport is here: http://debian.jones.dk/auryn/pool-sarge/sid/yaird/ |
| 09:03.56 | flawd | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:04.01 | flawd | woops |
| 09:04.07 | ski | peterS : it did not work before, and doesn't work not |
| 09:04.13 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 09:04.19 | ski | peterS : only connections through localhost work |
| 09:04.23 | sanoj | peterS: ...and a i386 sarge backport is here: http://debian.jones.dk/hykrion/pool-sarge/sid/yaird/ |
| 09:04.25 | peterS | ski: I'm guessing it's a firewalling issue of some sort |
| 09:04.27 | *** join/#debian lawn (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 09:04.52 | dvsdude | ma3x, amsn has voice and video support http://amsn.sourceforge.net/ |
| 09:05.06 | Bayne | he already ditched out dvs |
| 09:05.20 | *** join/#debian whiteland (n=whitelan@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:05.21 | peterS | ski: debian doesn't ship a firewall enabled by default, no |
| 09:05.21 | dvsdude | yes |
| 09:05.27 | whiteland | ola |
| 09:05.29 | sanoj | peterS: Correct, you can install sid linux-image-2.6.14-* on sarge with a sarge backport of yaird |
| 09:05.50 | ski | peterS : ok .. so if it's a firewall it's prolly upstreams, then i guess |
| 09:05.52 | *** join/#debian Kovecses (i=ray@c-24-61-224-70.hsd1.nh.comcast.net) |
| 09:05.53 | *** join/#debian juanvi (n=juanvi@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:05.54 | flawd | Is gnome 2.12 somehow available for sarge? |
| 09:05.56 | *** join/#debian grimse (n=grimse@p5481E912.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:05.57 | juanvi | hoola |
| 09:06.02 | peterS | rend: did you catch that? sanoj claims linux-image-2.6.14-* will work with his sarge compile of yaird, which is at http://debian.jones.dk/hykrion/pool-sarge/sid/yaird/ |
| 09:06.08 | whiteland | ke ace britney |
| 09:06.15 | Kovecses | do you guys think later versions of gnome will be backported to sarge??? |
| 09:06.18 | juanvi | hola ilove britney |
| 09:06.28 | peterS | ski: if you have another machine on the same local network, you can try to ssh from there |
| 09:06.35 | ski | (i have not) |
| 09:06.46 | *** join/#debian h4mm3r` (n=h4mm3r@85-18-14-10.fastres.net) |
| 09:06.52 | ski | (at least not configured with network ..) |
| 09:06.57 | whiteland | hello peters |
| 09:07.12 | whiteland | ola |
| 09:07.18 | *** join/#debian rosca (n=rosca@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:07.19 | juanvi | hello peters |
| 09:07.23 | juanvi | hola lidia |
| 09:07.27 | peterS | ski: for ssh from windows boxes, google 'putty download' first hit always works |
| 09:07.32 | whiteland | ola lidia |
| 09:07.32 | sanoj | peterS: hmm, the powerpc backport is too old - I'll fix that right away... |
| 09:07.41 | juanvi | hello peters |
| 09:07.43 | peterS | my word, I'm popular this evening |
| 09:07.46 | rosca | hola xula |
| 09:07.49 | Kovecses | flawd, you can use the garnome installer to install gnome 2.12 |
| 09:07.57 | juanvi | hello |
| 09:08.07 | juanvi | elclantoxico@hotmail.com |
| 09:08.17 | ski | peterS, could i ssh with that from windows to debian, without some preconfiguring the network ? |
| 09:08.23 | rend | Peters: interesting but my net install is 5% now |
| 09:08.25 | juanvi | hola skiiiiiiii |
| 09:08.28 | juanvi | hello |
| 09:08.29 | *** join/#debian cristy (n=cristy@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:08.33 | juanvi | piña |
| 09:08.34 | cristy | HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 09:08.40 | rosca | juan vamos a salir ya de aki |
| 09:08.40 | cristy | CABRON |
| 09:08.43 | peterS | ski: well, both machines need to be connected to a TCP/IP network, certainly. but putty.exe doesn't require any other configuration |
| 09:08.50 | ski | juanvi : hi .. |
| 09:08.51 | *** join/#debian tonyi89 (n=tonyi89@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:08.51 | cristy | HELOOOOOOOOOO |
| 09:08.53 | peterS | !ops rima-tde spam |
| 09:08.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: rima-tde spam |
| 09:08.55 | whiteland | ola cristy |
| 09:08.56 | rosca | silllllllllllllllllllllllllviiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 09:09.00 | tonyi89 | hihhhhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 09:09.00 | cristy | HOLAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 09:09.04 | whiteland | ke ace lidiaaaaaaaaaa |
| 09:09.08 | cristy | SILVIIIIII |
| 09:09.08 | *** join/#debian chacha (n=chacha@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:09.16 | rosca | hola cristiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii |
| 09:09.19 | cristy | RESPIRAR PARQA NO AOGARSE |
| 09:09.23 | whiteland | hello tonyi |
| 09:09.23 | tonyi89 | hroscaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 09:09.24 | *** join/#debian BriajWrk (n=^Briaj$@88.Red-80-25-53.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:09.28 | liable | wtf is up with these rima tards? |
| 09:09.28 | Kovecses | do you guys think later versions of gnome will be backported to sarge??? |
| 09:09.32 | *** join/#debian gamerita (n=gamerita@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:09.32 | cristy | HOLAAAAAAAAA ROSSSSSSCAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 09:09.33 | BriajWrk | hi all |
| 09:09.34 | peterS | rosca,cristy,tonyi89,whiteland,juanvi: go somewhere else please |
| 09:09.36 | dvsdude | its kiddie hour |
| 09:09.40 | juanvi | hola piña |
| 09:09.44 | gamerita | holaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 09:09.44 | juanvi | piñaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 09:09.44 | chacha | hola a todos |
| 09:09.48 | juanvi | viva britney |
| 09:09.51 | chacha | anchoa |
| 09:09.52 | juanvi | acapella |
| 09:09.52 | *** join/#debian fabianmj (n=fabianmj@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:09.54 | whiteland | plis de que |
| 09:09.55 | chacha | anchoa |
| 09:09.57 | spdf | Holy hell. I have a definite hate on for aix right now... |
| 09:09.57 | tonyi89 | juannnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn |
| 09:09.58 | gamerita | k pasa neeeen |
| 09:09.58 | cristy | HOLLLAA CHACHAAAAAAAAAAAAA |
| 09:09.59 | chacha | anchoa |
| 09:09.59 | *** part/#debian chacha (n=chacha@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:10.02 | juanvi | anchoa |
| 09:10.03 | dimir | damn it. |
| 09:10.03 | tonyi89 | gilipolla |
| 09:10.06 | juanvi | anchoooooooooooa |
| 09:10.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 735] by debhelper |
| 09:10.09 | *** join/#debian rinmak (n=bah@dsl-202-72-186-218.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 09:10.09 | rosca | petersssssssssssssssssssssssss hellooooooooooo |
| 09:10.14 | juanvi | fabi |
| 09:10.18 | tonyi89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.18 | rend | Peters: hola |
| 09:10.18 | *** join/#debian valle15 (n=valle15@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:10.19 | cristy | SUBIDON SUBIDON SUBIDONNNNNNN |
| 09:10.21 | gamerita | ola lidddddddi |
| 09:10.22 | whiteland | chacha |
| 09:10.24 | fabianmj | hola |
| 09:10.25 | juanvi | tonyyi vete a la caca |
| 09:10.31 | gamerita | sorvo |
| 09:10.35 | rosca | kryu7yruolwtuyiwtpo94jb5io6u456kyeirt |
| 09:10.36 | widrone | !ops dynamicIP.rima-tde.net spammers keep comming in. |
| 09:10.36 | Kovecses | try debian-es people |
| 09:10.36 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: dynamicIP.rima-tde.net spammers keep comming in. |
| 09:10.37 | juanvi | piñon sorvo |
| 09:10.39 | tonyi89 | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:10.39 | valle15 | tonto el que lo lea |
| 09:10.44 | Bayne | hrm... is it odd that every time i start up debian deletes my nvidia TLS links? |
| 09:10.46 | juanvi | chachona |
| 09:10.48 | Kovecses | english here |
| 09:10.51 | cristy | KIEN ES GOMERITA |
| 09:10.51 | tonyi89 | mas tonmta eras tu |
| 09:10.52 | juanvi | vlleta |
| 09:10.54 | BriajWrk | cristy, juanvi, valle15 english please |
| 09:11.00 | valle15 | anda ya y te calle lidi |
| 09:11.03 | cristy | SERAS TU |
| 09:11.05 | whiteland | pregunto lo mismo cristy |
| 09:11.05 | juanvi | anchoa |
| 09:11.07 | dimir | Ban the goddamn spammers! |
| 09:11.07 | liable | FUCK OFF! |
| 09:11.12 | juanvi | chacha |
| 09:11.13 | whiteland | chaca |
| 09:11.14 | rosca | valle al zequi se lo dire mendinga |
| 09:11.14 | gamerita | fuera britney |
| 09:11.15 | *** part/#debian gamerita (n=gamerita@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:11.15 | peterS | !ops please? |
| 09:11.15 | cristy | ANXOAAAAA |
| 09:11.16 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: please |
| 09:11.18 | Bayne | don't make me start ranting in arabic fuggers. |
| 09:11.20 | cristy | JA JA JA |
| 09:11.21 | whiteland | gamerita |
| 09:11.23 | whiteland | ola |
| 09:11.23 | juanvi | fuera anastasia |
| 09:11.26 | valle15 | juan vilches dice:NO YAC NOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 09:11.28 | *** join/#debian fsancho (n=c3ebe002@84-123-234-219.onocable.ono.com) |
| 09:11.28 | juanvi | fea girda |
| 09:11.32 | xelam | sigh |
| 09:11.34 | fsancho | hi all |
| 09:11.37 | Kovecses | do you guys think later versions of gnome will be backported to sarge??? |
| 09:11.37 | juanvi | no jack nooooooooooo |
| 09:11.38 | whiteland | fuera brithey |
| 09:11.41 | *** join/#debian Isumi (n=Isumi@unaffiliated/isumi) |
| 09:11.44 | rend | Peters: glad i got my stuff going before these guys showed up |
| 09:11.44 | whiteland | fsancho |
| 09:11.44 | juanvi | adipos astapronto |
| 09:11.46 | whiteland | ola |
| 09:11.47 | valle15 | SILVI TONTA |
| 09:11.48 | rosca | adiosssss a todos |
| 09:11.49 | fsancho | i have a problem with printable characters in X |
| 09:11.51 | juanvi | sorvaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 09:11.56 | rosca | vallllllllllleeeeeeeeeeeeeeee |
| 09:11.56 | juanvi | gordino |
| 09:12.02 | cristy | XAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO |
| 09:12.02 | whiteland | oelelala |
| 09:12.03 | peterS | rend: I haven't seen rima-tde prepubescents for awhile. they used to come in all the time, a couple of years ago |
| 09:12.06 | whiteland | xaoooo |
| 09:12.06 | rosca | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.06 | juanvi | anchoa y xeco |
| 09:12.08 | whiteland | a todosssssssssssss |
| 09:12.15 | dimir | Kovecses: can't hear you because of goddamn spammers, speak louder, please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 09:12.17 | dvsdude | ah will some please kick these bastards out |
| 09:12.23 | *** join/#debian Exerd (n=jack@host-112.osby.se) |
| 09:12.29 | fsancho | i looking for a way to re-define a non printable multikey combination |
| 09:12.31 | Kovecses | dimir, yeah no shit |
| 09:12.43 | Bayne | anyhow |
| 09:12.45 | dimir | fufffff |
| 09:12.46 | Bayne | hrm... is it odd that every time i start up debian deletes my nvidia TLS links? |
| 09:12.51 | liable | thats just wrong. |
| 09:12.53 | *** join/#debian xenph (i=proxy@203.167.88.65) |
| 09:13.05 | dimir | yes. |
| 09:13.12 | Gnea | !ops *!*@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net attack of the spambots |
| 09:13.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: *!*@60.Red-83-55-163.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net attack of the spambots |
| 09:13.14 | rend | Peters: now i am seeing weird stalls on the downloads.. but the card stills shows activity |
| 09:13.21 | dimir | It's just the world we are living in. |
| 09:13.26 | *** join/#debian Exxerd (n=jack@host-112.osby.se) |
| 09:13.29 | dimir | It's sometimes unfair. |
| 09:13.52 | dvsdude | Bayne, It looks like the Debian nvidia-glx package wasn't uninstalled cleanly. Removing the Debian script /etc/init.d/nividia-glx, then reinstalling with the official NVIDIA installer corrected the problem. |
| 09:13.54 | Gnea | population overflow |
| 09:13.56 | fsancho | if i press that combination under X, ^ plus any character i get beep or âêîôû then the other character is a vocal |
| 09:14.03 | *** join/#debian mufa (n=sfsfsdf@mx2.finsiel.ro) |
| 09:14.16 | liable | yes, we need a good dose of the plague.. |
| 09:14.24 | Gnea | liable: france. |
| 09:14.24 | fsancho | what i want is redefine that combination of keys to produce ^character, ^P, ^S ^r ^a. Do you know what i mean? |
| 09:14.24 | Bayne | right on dvsdude that looks like it should work |
| 09:14.31 | peterS | rend: I'm guessing it's a matter of running a 10/100 network card on a USB 1.1 interface. the USB interface can't keep up with the traffic so you start dropping packets and it takes awhile for the TCP algorithms to catch on and adjust their speed or whatever |
| 09:14.33 | sanoj | peterS & rend: There you go - a more up-to-date x86 backport of yaird at http://debian.jones.dk/hykrion/pool-sarge/sid/yaird/ |
| 09:14.35 | dvsdude | Bayne, np |
| 09:14.38 | rend | they should catch the bird flu |
| 09:15.06 | Kovecses | !gnome |
| 09:15.07 | dpkg | methinks gnome is a desktop environment - see http://www.gnome.org. a little dwarf, or a race in d&d, see #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org, or - to get gnome, ask about <install gnome> |
| 09:15.10 | Gnea | i really don't wish death upon anyone (except for those that wish it upon me) |
| 09:15.22 | mufa | hi, I have a debian with kernel 2.6 and 3 network interfaces. How and where could I instruct him in what order to load network modules? |
| 09:15.32 | Bayne | well here goes lets see if that unscrood it |
| 09:15.36 | dvsdude | Gnea, here here |
| 09:15.40 | peterS | rend: you may be able to use 'ethtool' to force the NIC to 10 Mbit, which might work better than 100 Mbit |
| 09:16.10 | peterS | rend: (USB 1.1 is 11 Mbit, so it should *just* be able to keep up with the line speed of a 10 Mbit card) |
| 09:16.17 | *** join/#debian Router_hh (n=Miranda@cm-83-97-136-121.telecable.es) |
| 09:16.17 | rend | sanoj: ill check it out after the install |
| 09:16.42 | Gnea | dvsdude: the problem is simple: mass-media coupled with otc/prescription/illegal drugs produces delusions of granduier en masse |
| 09:16.48 | rend | peterS: cool |
| 09:16.53 | *** join/#debian xinming (n=xinming@60.180.81.85) |
| 09:17.08 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@254.68.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 09:17.15 | *** join/#debian yumeng (n=yumeng@221.200.49.78) |
| 09:17.17 | dvsdude | Gnea, hit the nail on the head there |
| 09:17.28 | peterS | rend: if not that, try with mii-tool. I am not clear on which of these works with which ethernet drivers |
| 09:17.39 | ma3x | is there anything for debian that is voice and video compatible with MSN? |
| 09:17.48 | dvsdude | ma3x, amsn |
| 09:17.58 | Gnea | dvsdude: many solutions present themselves, but action flows not in the proper direction currently. |
| 09:18.05 | *** join/#debian SiliconViper (n=siliconv@d205-250-111-241.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 09:18.26 | *** join/#debian Bayne (n=fred@62.68.66.42) |
| 09:18.30 | peterS | ma3x: gnomemeeting can do h.323, I don't know if that is what msn uses |
| 09:18.33 | Bayne | Rock on! it worked. |
| 09:18.34 | BriajWrk | i have a sis760 video card and it fails with xfree-4.3 and xorg-6.8.2.... |
| 09:18.41 | Bayne | thanks dude |
| 09:18.44 | *** join/#debian Astinus_ (i=iBook@freenode/staff/gentoo.astinus) |
| 09:18.51 | dvsdude | Bayne, glad to help |
| 09:19.00 | Gnea | BriajWrk: 'fails'? |
| 09:19.07 | BriajWrk | a friend tell me that he had the same problem and it solved it installing xfree-4.5, not supported by debian |
| 09:19.25 | BriajWrk | Gnea, it freeze the pc |
| 09:19.35 | dvsdude | Gnea, it never does governments only want to look after themselves yet the people give them power well at least in most places |
| 09:19.36 | ma3x | checking for GTK - version >= 1.2.0... no |
| 09:19.39 | ma3x | what should i install? |
| 09:19.46 | peterS | ma3x: libgtk1.2-dev |
| 09:19.51 | BriajWrk | there is another way to solve the problem withoput installing xfree-4.5? |
| 09:19.58 | Gnea | dvsdude: and then there's 'the bottom line' |
| 09:19.58 | BriajWrk | without* |
| 09:20.03 | ma3x | thanks peterS |
| 09:20.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 728] by debhelper |
| 09:20.10 | dvsdude | Gnea, yep! |
| 09:20.15 | peterS | ma3x: that's if your application does not support gtk 2.x. if it does, you can install libgtk2.0-dev instead |
| 09:20.20 | rend | peterS: it doesnt help when your uplink is maxed out from downloading |
| 09:20.37 | peterS | rend: yeah, stalls may not be directly the fault of your machine |
| 09:20.50 | rend | like i even ping timeout on irc sometimes from it |
| 09:21.07 | peterS | rend: if you can't get ACK packets through a link because the uplink too saturated already, that will stall downloads too |
| 09:21.31 | *** join/#debian fuso (n=bhjk@u216-2.udal.afb.lu.se) |
| 09:21.45 | peterS | since TCP refuses to send more than N amount of data before it gets confirmation that at least some of the data has arrived |
| 09:21.56 | peterS | (N being what is called the "TCP window size") |
| 09:21.56 | xerophyte | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.06 | xelam | ffs |
| 09:22.42 | *** join/#debian kronos (n=kronos@83.103.230.107) |
| 09:22.47 | kronos | hello |
| 09:22.49 | dvsdude | xerophyte, ? should be is there a GNU replacement not open source |
| 09:23.16 | dvsdude | xerophyte, just listening to a richard stallman interview sorry dude |
| 09:23.37 | kronos | can someone tell me how can i stop crond from sending mails from root@local to root@local |
| 09:23.38 | kronos | ? |
| 09:24.08 | peterS | kronos: add an entry "root: someoneelse" or "root: someone@somewhere" to /etc/aliases and run 'newaliases' to make it take effect |
| 09:24.16 | ma3x | dvsdude, I didn't find any voice or video in amsn |
| 09:24.53 | kronos | ok peterS |
| 09:25.18 | peterS | kronos: cron will still send mail to root, but that'll then be forwarded to whatever user or users you specify |
| 09:25.39 | *** join/#debian ledet (n=thomas@p3m/member/ledet) |
| 09:25.47 | Gnea | BriajWrk: you are on amd64? |
| 09:26.17 | *** join/#debian HmJ (i=hemry@hemry.dtiltas.lt) |
| 09:26.44 | rend | i expect to have a 64bit processor when 128 bit comes out |
| 09:26.47 | kronos | peterS, and if i enter an unexistent address? |
| 09:27.21 | dvsdude | ma3x, well i setup mates debian with amsn and he can webcam had to compile from source depends on amsn version |
| 09:27.36 | peterS | kronos: you don't want to just throw away root mail |
| 09:28.02 | peterS | kronos: you can shut up cron by editing the crontabs that cause mail, to not produce any output on stdout or stderr |
| 09:29.13 | *** join/#debian Novato (i=quique@168.Red-213-96-206.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:29.24 | peterS | kronos: root cron jobs live in /etc/crontab, /etc/cron.hourly/, /etc/cron.daily/, /etc/cron.weekly/, /etc/cron.monthly/, /etc/cron.d/ |
| 09:29.38 | *** join/#debian romany (n=romany@gw1.sseriga.edu.lv) |
| 09:29.38 | *** part/#debian romany (n=romany@gw1.sseriga.edu.lv) |
| 09:29.40 | *** join/#debian romany (n=romany@gw1.sseriga.edu.lv) |
| 09:29.50 | dvsdude | ma3x, http://www.softpedia.com/get/Internet/Chat/Instant-Messaging/amsn.shtml |
| 09:30.38 | Novato | j/ #debian-es |
| 09:30.53 | *** part/#debian Novato (i=quique@168.Red-213-96-206.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:31.00 | rend | hmm... i am having 13% (lucky number) packet loss |
| 09:31.24 | ma3x | dvsdude, it does not offer voice and video support |
| 09:31.25 | *** part/#debian sebi__ (n=sebi@Fd68d.f.strato-dslnet.de) |
| 09:31.27 | peterS | rend: maybe you should have paid more than $4 (: |
| 09:31.55 | romany | Does anyone have suggestions for mailing lists manager that would work nicely with postfix? I am after security, speed and ease of use/management? |
| 09:32.28 | *** part/#debian Bayne (n=fred@62.68.66.42) |
| 09:32.36 | dvsdude | ma3x, ok ok my mistake sorry |
| 09:32.43 | *** join/#debian wiesel (n=wiesel@port-212-202-86-41.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 09:32.53 | rend | Peters: it wil be ok since the avg speed is still > 200KB |
| 09:32.55 | peterS | romany: the cool kids use mailman and smartlist. the *really* cool kids use enemies-of-carlotta |
| 09:33.03 | kronos | peterS, aha. The thing that for some reason root cannot receive mails, i guess is because that i didn't created a maildir. but all the mails goes to support@local and if posible to shut up cron i wil. The bottom thing is that i don't want mails from the system to be sent to support@local |
| 09:33.09 | *** join/#debian si0ux (n=Andre@carol-200-225-216-097.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) |
| 09:33.29 | peterS | kronos: well, /etc/aliases lets you redirect mail from any user account to any other user account - do with it what you wish |
| 09:33.30 | *** join/#debian nissemus (n=morgo@217-140-246-41.adsl-net.finnetcom.net) |
| 09:33.33 | rend | Peters: could it be the $10 router? |
| 09:33.34 | *** join/#debian simpson (i=idgbps@p54858261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:33.36 | *** join/#debian stania (n=stania@221.145.251.135) |
| 09:33.42 | *** join/#debian rking (n=rking@ip68-1-234-152.dl.dl.cox.net) |
| 09:33.49 | romany | peterS: thanks for that |
| 09:33.56 | *** join/#debian dob1 (n=dob@62.211.182.174) |
| 09:33.59 | dvsdude | ma3x, check this please http://amsn.sourceforge.net/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Webcam+In+aMSN |
| 09:34.18 | rend | ill do some experiments with direct connections and diff hw |
| 09:34.20 | peterS | rend: I really have no idea. I might have some idea if I could actually look at how your network is set up. but (a) I can't, and (b) even if you tried to describe everything, I really should be sleeping instead right now |
| 09:34.48 | dob1 | hi, there is any way to have an history log file of all the packages installed/removed ? |
| 09:35.05 | peterS | dob1: if you use aptitude, it keeps a log. I think dpkg does too nowadays |
| 09:35.16 | wiesel | does anyone know if there is a script which is executed after logout? maybe thatone shows "Debian GNU/Linux ... tty1..."!? |
| 09:35.20 | peterS | dob1: both are in /var/log/ |
| 09:35.49 | peterS | wiesel: that's the 'getty' program (or its variants), executed by init and configured in /etc/inittab |
| 09:36.03 | *** join/#debian l3m (n=l3m@ifidyn167.ifi.unizh.ch) |
| 09:36.03 | peterS | wiesel: getty normally reads /etc/issue or /etc/issue.net depending on whether it's local or remote |
| 09:36.07 | *** join/#debian sod (n=sod@balls.uniques.ro) |
| 09:36.10 | kronos | peterS, in aliases i have: "root: support" can this be it ? |
| 09:36.17 | dob1 | peterS, what is the name of this log file ? |
| 09:36.24 | peterS | kronos: yes, it means root mail is sent to the 'support' user mailbox |
| 09:36.38 | wiesel | aha! i'll look, thanks! ;) |
| 09:36.42 | peterS | dob1: did you look in /var/log yet? if so, I'm surprised you couldn't already guess |
| 09:37.06 | *** join/#debian aum (n=aum@60-234-156-82.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 09:37.07 | *** join/#debian Mirrie (n=Mirrie@c-82-192-226-48.customer.ggaweb.ch) |
| 09:37.14 | kronos | peterS, aha thanks. |
| 09:37.28 | *** join/#debian viliar (n=mail@193.125.207.16) |
| 09:37.34 | dob1 | peterS, yes i an looking there but i don't find a log file for it |
| 09:37.53 | aum | what does it mean in a mail bounce when it says "Domain of sender address ... does not exist" - when the address and domain DO exist? |
| 09:37.56 | peterS | dob1: if you use aptitude to install packages, there will be a /var/log/aptitude there. if not, there won't. |
| 09:38.15 | dob1 | peterS, ah ok |
| 09:38.17 | peterS | dob1: if you use a fairly new version of dpkg, it will deposit its own log files /var/log/dpkg.log . if you aren't, they won't. |
| 09:38.30 | *** part/#debian romany (n=romany@gw1.sseriga.edu.lv) |
| 09:38.54 | peterS | aum: DNS problems at one end or the other? incorrect DNS MX record? |
| 09:40.16 | *** join/#debian beril (i=HalukWEB@212.156.179.248) |
| 09:40.27 | *** part/#debian viliar (n=mail@193.125.207.16) |
| 09:40.39 | beril | selam herkese |
| 09:40.51 | aum | peterS: thx |
| 09:40.55 | peterS | aum: what domain? |
| 09:41.10 | beril | hi |
| 09:41.22 | aum | peterS: rebirthing.co.nz |
| 09:42.00 | peterS | aum: no DNS problems for me, and the MX record looks fine |
| 09:42.00 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) |
| 09:42.07 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 09:42.13 | rend | this channel is nice at this hour... slow enough to keep up |
| 09:42.32 | aum | peterS: i thought it should be ok - is it possible the destination smtp server is using some kind of 'sender id' system? |
| 09:43.06 | *** join/#debian Beik (n=patrick@e181111085.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:43.13 | peterS | aum: oh, domain of *sender address* ... I misread that. I answered what could go wrong if the *destination* address were not known |
| 09:43.29 | *** part/#debian beril (i=HalukWEB@212.156.179.248) |
| 09:43.40 | rend | this place ever get flame wars? |
| 09:43.41 | *** join/#debian bibe (n=bibe@195.206.1.61) |
| 09:43.56 | Skrotto | no, never. |
| 09:44.01 | liable | heh |
| 09:44.02 | rend | darn |
| 09:44.03 | peterS | rend: occasionally. someone earlier tonight asked the very insightful question "which is better, debian or gentoo?" |
| 09:44.09 | rend | hehe |
| 09:44.18 | peterS | rend: it's obvious that the question is stupid - why would you ask it in here, what answer do you think you would get? |
| 09:44.35 | peterS | rend: but it's also hard to keep all of the 700+ people here from wasting everyone's time by answering |
| 09:44.44 | rend | i think the mac going bsd based has helped it a ton |
| 09:45.14 | peterS | yeah, for all the things people liked about mac os, it was obviously way behind the times. unix was just what it needed, apparently |
| 09:45.17 | rend | i read today tha 1 million went from win to mac this year |
| 09:45.23 | TwistedEmotions | Is etch testing or unstable? |
| 09:45.36 | peterS | testing |
| 09:45.46 | *** part/#debian Isumi (n=Isumi@unaffiliated/isumi) |
| 09:46.24 | *** join/#debian Tallia1-KubuntuB (n=andrea@cust-65-110-27-27.sfu-reznet.connectwest.net) |
| 09:47.40 | widrone | !etch |
| 09:47.40 | dpkg | rumour has it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ |
| 09:48.12 | *** join/#debian mizu (n=coke@morannon.demon.nl) |
| 09:48.30 | peterS | arrright, that does it. screw you guys, ahm goin t'bed |
| 09:48.34 | mizu | mmm is this the channel for questions about building packages? |
| 09:48.37 | rend | me too |
| 09:48.40 | rend | night |
| 09:48.46 | rend | 4am |
| 09:48.53 | mizu | 11am here |
| 09:48.53 | peterS | yes, almost 4am anyway |
| 09:48.59 | *** part/#debian rend (n=cracker@unaffiliated/rend/x-000000001) |
| 09:49.57 | Mirrie | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.32 | *** join/#debian djp (i=djp@dynamic-62-56-39-194.park-s46b.dslaccess.co.uk) |
| 09:50.34 | *** join/#debian douglas (n=douglas@250-54.customer.cloud9.net) |
| 09:50.55 | jm_ | lsof, fuser |
| 09:51.09 | *** join/#debian umbop (n=jon@noc.mistral.net) |
| 09:51.21 | mizu | im trying to compile a separate apache on debian |
| 09:51.29 | *** part/#debian scotti (i=scotti@mgnet.biz) |
| 09:51.41 | mizu | the README.build file mentions arch-buildpackage but there are no documentation about it |
| 09:51.47 | mizu | or how to use it with apache |
| 09:52.09 | *** join/#debian marirube2 (n=pc2@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:52.10 | *** part/#debian rd__ (n=rd@19.20.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 09:52.12 | *** join/#debian rubmaris11 (n=pc11@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:52.13 | mizu | it seems there is a configs/ directory hardcoded in arch-buildpackage, so it is expecting me to put stuff somewhere.. |
| 09:52.50 | *** join/#debian antorosendo10 (n=pc10@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:52.52 | *** join/#debian vanemiguel12 (n=pc12@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:53.13 | *** join/#debian alfosil13 (n=pc13@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:53.15 | *** join/#debian munujuan4 (n=pc4@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:53.19 | Mirrie | jm, you responding to my question? thanks |
| 09:53.39 | *** join/#debian pwinnertz (n=rap@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:53.54 | *** join/#debian estenrique3 (n=pc3@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:53.56 | jm_ | Mirrie: yes |
| 09:54.04 | *** part/#debian pwinnertz (n=rap@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:54.18 | mizu | if i shouldn't be here, tell me which channel to go for such development questions? |
| 09:54.20 | *** join/#debian crissebi7 (n=pc7@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:54.20 | Mirrie | ok, jm - I wasn't sure.. :) |
| 09:54.59 | jm_ | mizu: separate apache? |
| 09:55.15 | mizu | jm_: yes, need it to run php4 and php5 simultaneously |
| 09:55.26 | wiesel | peterS: can i put a "clear" into inittab so that the screen only shows /etc/issue and login: ? |
| 09:55.37 | mizu | so want to install a separate apache in /usr/local |
| 09:55.43 | mufa | hi, I have a debian with kernel 2.6 and 3 network interfaces. How and where could I instruct him in what order to load network modules? |
| 09:55.48 | jm_ | as a debian package? |
| 09:56.03 | *** join/#debian streuner_ (i=foobar@p54A5E36D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 09:56.05 | jm_ | mufa: man modules |
| 09:56.08 | mizu | jm_: not necessarily, but the debian sources come with patches |
| 09:56.11 | peterS | wiesel: I suggest: (clear; cat /etc/issue) > /etc/issue.new; mv /etc/issue.new /etc/issue |
| 09:56.40 | resiak | mizu: If you're looking for consistent naming of the interfaces, look at ifrename |
| 09:56.54 | mizu | resiak: that is for mufa, i think :) |
| 09:57.01 | resiak | mizu: My bad. |
| 09:57.08 | resiak | mufa: If you're looking for consistent naming of the interfaces, look at ifrename |
| 09:58.32 | *** join/#debian Assassin5 (n=Assassin@62.49.173.155) |
| 09:58.39 | mufa | jm_ well, I already tried adding them to /etc/modules, but it was saying something like "module 8139too already loaded, skiping" |
| 09:59.30 | *** join/#debian dub (n=dub@damagedgoods.co.nz) |
| 10:00.00 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B18CD.versanet.de) |
| 10:00.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 736] by debhelper |
| 10:00.23 | *** join/#debian EdLin (i=quark@as5300-6.216-194-21-165.nyc.ny.metconnect.net) |
| 10:00.54 | *** join/#debian slackd00d (n=bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 10:01.27 | mizu | jm_: what do you suggest? |
| 10:02.19 | *** join/#debian lixus (n=lixuss@lixus.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net) |
| 10:02.22 | *** join/#debian Zeit|idle (n=wurscht@p54A797E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:02.26 | *** join/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 10:02.32 | *** join/#debian staanii (n=stan@d80-170-67-206.cust.tele2.fr) |
| 10:02.34 | jm_ | mufa: then maybe hotplug loads them |
| 10:02.50 | jm_ | mizu: build it manually or use checkinstall |
| 10:03.12 | *** join/#debian rocesar6 (n=pc6@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:03.17 | mizu | let me see what checkinstall is.. |
| 10:03.26 | rocesar6 | hola |
| 10:03.30 | *** join/#debian SlammerXP (n=Mart@ti521110a080-1438.bb.online.no) |
| 10:04.56 | mizu | im trytrying dpkg-buildpackage now... |
| 10:05.31 | spdf | I don't suppose someone has any experience with pioformat strings? Something's fishy in my queue config (lsvirprt is throwing an error on something that -should- work..) |
| 10:06.27 | spdf | Its an old aix system, very nondebian... |
| 10:07.31 | spdf | Its so utterly useless, I don't know why its still in service.. and why I have to fix it.. ergh.. |
| 10:07.38 | *** join/#debian genocide (n=dont@212.103.64.237) |
| 10:07.39 | genocide | hello |
| 10:07.41 | *** join/#debian GutterPunk (n=Steven@d5152D086.access.telenet.be) |
| 10:07.48 | *** join/#debian Rattlehead (i=rattlehe@aigaio-ppp226.ccf.auth.gr) |
| 10:08.08 | genocide | anyone knows howto get iscsi with a kernel 2.6.12 running ? |
| 10:08.28 | bumpsh3r | can anyone tell me a good m4p player for linux? |
| 10:08.50 | nissemus | bumpsh3r maybe mplayer can play them |
| 10:08.51 | *** join/#debian xinming (n=xinming@220.190.171.126) |
| 10:08.52 | spdf | bumpsh3r, mplayer |
| 10:08.58 | nissemus | and you should not forget videolan |
| 10:09.06 | spdf | bumpsh3r, It'll play anything.. |
| 10:09.11 | bumpsh3r | ahh |
| 10:09.15 | bumpsh3r | ty =) |
| 10:09.20 | nissemus | spdf mplayer -> the king :D |
| 10:09.35 | Beik | !tell genocide about anyone |
| 10:09.45 | bumpsh3r | i just recently compiled and installed that from latest cvs too :D |
| 10:10.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 747] by debhelper |
| 10:10.49 | bumpsh3r | ummm |
| 10:11.01 | bumpsh3r | m4p is audio |
| 10:11.13 | wiesel | peterS: that solution is brilliant! :) |
| 10:11.37 | *** join/#debian tct3 (n=tct3@ca-studio-bsr1i1-152.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 10:12.23 | peterS | wiesel: it also only works if you know what type of terminal it will be used on. which is true for /etc/issue as that is for console logins and the linux console is well-defined. it's not true for /etc/issue.net because someone could telnet in, or whatever, from *any* type of terminal, whose 'clear' commands might be quite different |
| 10:12.57 | *** part/#debian tct3 (n=tct3@ca-studio-bsr1i1-152.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 10:13.02 | bumpsh3r | :( mplayer won't play it |
| 10:14.14 | *** join/#debian ChrisW (n=NotChris@host86-133-191-19.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:14.21 | *** join/#debian notPoncha (n=poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 10:14.28 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua@222.50.93.147) |
| 10:14.32 | RichiH | does anyone else have the problem that the new vim in unstable looks for it's syntax files in /usr/share/vim/syntax/ while they really recide in /usr/share/vim/vim64/syntax/ ? |
| 10:14.33 | wiesel | peterS: ah i see, it's ok for me because i want to use it for local login; also to have a clear screen after bootup |
| 10:14.56 | *** join/#debian prabhu (n=prabhu@box.iiitb.ac.in) |
| 10:15.05 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 10:15.22 | ChrisW | any cron experts here? we run cron jobs from files in /etc/cron.d, and /etc/cron.d is a svn checkout. Since we started doing this, some jobs seem to run twice, at the same time, for no apparent reason. Any ideas? |
| 10:15.35 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 10:15.36 | *** join/#debian asad2005 (n=breezy32@82.194.55.39) |
| 10:15.44 | peterS | wiesel: well, in practice, most of the world is using vt100-compatible terminals. this was not true 15 years ago, but it's true today. so 'clear' on a linux console will produce a command sequence that will, in fact, work for most people on modern OSes |
| 10:16.10 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 10:16.24 | *** join/#debian pinguinofelicez (n=pinguino@net141-029.mclink.it) |
| 10:17.34 | *** join/#debian bn` (n=bn@p54A8045D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:17.36 | *** join/#debian dmilush (n=dmilush@p549798E4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:18.37 | wiesel | peterS: i understand :) thanks for your info! |
| 10:18.54 | peterS | np |
| 10:21.42 | *** join/#debian chamo (n=calljair@adsl-67-36-190-236.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) |
| 10:23.12 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:24.27 | *** join/#debian johny (n=johny@nobugconsulting.ro) |
| 10:26.38 | ChrisW | seriously, anyone even know how t ogo about debugging this cron problem? |
| 10:26.56 | ChrisW | there are two entries showing up in cron's log |
| 10:27.11 | ChrisW | and sure enough, the job in question seems to run twice, but why? |
| 10:27.17 | *** part/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 10:27.23 | *** join/#debian StarKruzr (n=jtd@adsl-70-224-38-80.dsl.sbndin.ameritech.net) |
| 10:27.27 | ChrisW | how does stuff in /etc/cron.d end up in cron's queue, or whatever it uses? |
| 10:27.58 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 10:28.05 | *** join/#debian h4mm3r` (n=h4mm3r@85-18-14-10.fastres.net) |
| 10:29.42 | *** join/#debian phiPPs (n=iana@gw-trusted.physics.gla.ac.uk) |
| 10:29.58 | *** join/#debian LordLamer (n=frank@mx.signal-to-noise.org) |
| 10:30.32 | kneet | ChrisW, in my svn area - under .svn is a directory called text-base - where the files appear - I think this is used for offline checking of file changes. So - if the cron.d/cron.daily etc use a recursive lookup (no idea) then these files will be duplicates of the checkout |
| 10:30.33 | *** join/#debian LordLamer (n=frank@mx.signal-to-noise.org) |
| 10:31.04 | kneet | You could either get cron.d/cron.daily etc to ignore .svn or use a svn export maybe? |
| 10:31.35 | ChrisW | yeah, that might be it |
| 10:31.41 | *** join/#debian mariano (n=mariano@200-122-1-78.dsl.prima.net.ar) |
| 10:31.42 | ChrisW | but why would some jobs not run at all? |
| 10:31.49 | kneet | Are they set executable? |
| 10:32.34 | kneet | I think cron.d just does a recursive lookup for all executable apps - but I don't really know |
| 10:32.37 | ChrisW | they have to be set executable? |
| 10:32.40 | *** join/#debian ixxs (n=peto@adsl-15-36.m-dsl.nextra.sk) |
| 10:32.52 | ChrisW | hmm, I'll have to have a look at cron's man pages in depth I guess... |
| 10:33.17 | jm_ | no they don't have to be executable |
| 10:34.14 | *** join/#debian edzu (n=edzu@195.57.59.205) |
| 10:34.27 | kneet | It appears that cron runs /etc/crontab which runs anacron - so - I guess its anacron you need to read up on |
| 10:34.49 | ChrisW | okay, but will whatever it is recurse into a .svn directory in /etc/cron.d? |
| 10:34.54 | omis | how do i check if i got utf-8 installed on my machine? |
| 10:35.08 | *** part/#debian edzu (n=edzu@195.57.59.205) |
| 10:35.11 | ChrisW | and where can I find docs on how /etc/cron.d works? |
| 10:35.13 | kneet | ChrisW, I guess that will be documented in anacrons documentation |
| 10:35.18 | omis | lsfsfont -xserver? |
| 10:35.22 | ChrisW | omis: utf-8 is an encoding, not something you install ;-) |
| 10:35.22 | omis | ore..? :> |
| 10:35.38 | omis | ChrisW: heh ok, how do i check if iew got it? |
| 10:35.39 | omis | :P |
| 10:35.40 | *** part/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) |
| 10:35.41 | *** join/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) |
| 10:35.48 | *** part/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) |
| 10:35.53 | *** join/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) |
| 10:36.02 | *** join/#debian aeddan (n=aeddan@203.39.89.243) |
| 10:36.12 | ChrisW | omis: what's your actualy problem? |
| 10:36.17 | *** join/#debian gAri- (n=user@tryman.hu) |
| 10:36.23 | yang_ | when editing iptables i get error : No Chain target match by that name |
| 10:37.06 | jm_ | no it's run-parts |
| 10:37.06 | kneet | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:37.09 | omis | ChrisW: i think i have utf-8, but i cant read some chars that ppl whit utf-8 writes.. |
| 10:37.40 | jm_ | omis: convert it to whatever is suitable to your output device |
| 10:37.42 | ChrisW | omis: that could be any number of things |
| 10:37.43 | kneet | Oh - I see - anacron is used as a check - run-parts is actually run |
| 10:37.56 | kneet | My mistake :) |
| 10:37.59 | *** join/#debian Rock_Lee_ (n=rock@200.103.110.175) |
| 10:38.04 | *** join/#debian Tortel (n=scott@pcp0011331660pcs.elictc01.md.comcast.net) |
| 10:38.06 | ChrisW | so I want "man run-parts"? |
| 10:38.11 | omis | allright, but first thing.. how to check if i even got utf-8 on my machine |
| 10:38.12 | kneet | Worth a try ;) |
| 10:38.12 | *** join/#debian dennys_modolo (n=d-modolo@srv00.el.com.br) |
| 10:38.13 | omis | :p |
| 10:38.16 | Rock_Lee_ | como q eu faço p/ compartilhar a internet no debian? |
| 10:38.19 | *** join/#debian dorto (n=dorto@202.65.150.146) |
| 10:38.35 | jm_ | iconv -f utf-8 -t ascii bla |
| 10:38.48 | omis | thanks |
| 10:38.50 | *** join/#debian dai (n=dai@57.Red-80-39-11.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 10:39.34 | *** join/#debian Tony[] (n=boing@212.44.43.80) |
| 10:39.48 | ChrisW | jm_: what's iconv? |
| 10:39.59 | jm_ | ChrisW: man iconv, it wasn't for you |
| 10:40.20 | Tony[] | has anyone here used sshdfilter? |
| 10:40.41 | Rock_Lee_ | oo MOMFG |
| 10:40.55 | Rock_Lee_ | OMFG ¬¬ só tem nego gringo aki |
| 10:41.07 | *** join/#debian shad0wcat (i=Ecto@c-e05f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 10:41.46 | _SerhaT_ | Tony[]: I used sshfaker.. which works good to secure your SSH for a normal workstation |
| 10:42.00 | Skrotto | Hi. I'm thinking about seting up a LVM, but do I need to (re)format the existing partitions on the disks I want to use? |
| 10:42.01 | _SerhaT_ | SSHing returns Protocol Mismatch for SSH clients.. |
| 10:42.36 | _SerhaT_ | you need to telnet to it.. enter a pass.. after that it will add you to the allow list so you can SSH without problems.. |
| 10:42.55 | Noid | Rock_Lee_: #debian-br |
| 10:43.03 | Rock_Lee_ | Thanks |
| 10:43.07 | omis | jm_: iconv sets it to uitf-8? i think i dont got the locales. |
| 10:43.12 | omis | nothing happend :> |
| 10:43.14 | ChrisW | jm_: yeah, I know, just curious though ;-) |
| 10:43.25 | jm_ | omis: it doesn't set anything |
| 10:44.16 | omis | oki |
| 10:44.22 | Tony[] | _SerhaT_: sshdfilter stops the brute force attacks on ssh |
| 10:45.27 | *** part/#debian Rock_Lee_ (n=rock@200.103.110.175) |
| 10:45.35 | jm_ | is it using iptables' recent module? |
| 10:45.53 | *** join/#debian ericrar (n=ericradt@218.76.234.228) |
| 10:45.53 | _SerhaT_ | Tony[]: they can't even bruteforce it with sshfaker.. as they're not in the allow list.. but okay.. denyhosts is a possibility too.. I'd say check them all 3 out.. the homepages should have enough info on how they work so you can judge yourself... for example sshfaker is not really suitable for servers imo.. |
| 10:46.03 | _SerhaT_ | not for webservers etc anyway |
| 10:46.38 | Tony[] | _SerhaT_: I have ssdfliter installed and it thinks it's working, but something is missing |
| 10:46.58 | *** join/#debian ideal (n=idealm_@58.33.53.101) |
| 10:47.01 | *** join/#debian holycow (n=a@S0106000fb51e6051.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 10:47.01 | _SerhaT_ | Tony[]: sorry can't help you further then as I never used it |
| 10:47.15 | Tony[] | thanks anyway |
| 10:47.20 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 10:47.58 | *** join/#debian panthera (n=panthera@debian-unofficial.org) |
| 10:49.02 | *** join/#debian nksen (n=rigo@internetdiskette.com) |
| 10:49.11 | *** join/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 10:49.21 | *** join/#debian scarynet1orkguy (n=sng@c-24-22-88-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 10:50.04 | *** part/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 10:50.05 | *** join/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 10:50.29 | *** join/#debian maatttt (n=matttt@203-217-80-178.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 10:51.06 | maatttt | hi, hwo do permissions work for /etc/skel, do they get set to user/user ? |
| 10:51.41 | maatttt | I mean, does the user and user group get permissions when a user is added ? |
| 10:51.47 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 10:52.08 | *** join/#debian netcatc (n=netcatc@srv1.aethra.com.br) |
| 10:52.51 | *** join/#debian yoo (n=yoo@yoo.dyndns.org) |
| 10:53.04 | *** join/#debian asmodaiii (n=asmodaii@sat78-1-82-232-42-52.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:53.14 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) |
| 10:53.48 | SimonRaven | maatttt: adduser takes care of it |
| 10:55.27 | maatttt | great. thanks. |
| 10:55.41 | *** join/#debian paras (n=paras@202.79.37.177) |
| 10:56.33 | kronos | otpbank.ro |
| 10:56.40 | kronos | sorry |
| 10:56.47 | saloxin | Tony[]: i'm fond of fail2ban, backported to sarge |
| 10:56.58 | *** join/#debian amki (n=Urf@p50836566.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 10:57.34 | *** join/#debian ericrar (n=ericradt@218.76.234.228) |
| 10:58.20 | *** join/#debian beezly (n=beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528) |
| 10:59.28 | *** join/#debian glutinous (n=steven@ppp169-24.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) |
| 10:59.31 | *** join/#debian daxStryFe (n=none@62.38.116.213) |
| 10:59.45 | Tony[] | saloxin: I'm unfamiliar with this |
| 11:00.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 760] by debhelper |
| 11:00.58 | saloxin | it tails ssh and apache logs, and upon n failures bans users by ip address |
| 11:01.42 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) |
| 11:02.00 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 11:04.25 | ChrisW | is there any way I can poke cron to find out what jobs it currently knows about? |
| 11:04.32 | ChrisW | (ie: has loaded in memory, or whatever) |
| 11:05.18 | jm_ | not that I know |
| 11:05.45 | ChrisW | *sigh* |
| 11:05.52 | The_Vulture | ChrisW: You mean what jobs are scheduled? |
| 11:05.56 | ChrisW | yeah |
| 11:06.04 | The_Vulture | crontab -e |
| 11:06.08 | ChrisW | er, no |
| 11:06.28 | ChrisW | ' /var/spool/cron is empty |
| 11:06.28 | jm_ | naah he's talking aboyt system-wide cron jobs |
| 11:06.47 | ChrisW | '/etc/cron.d has some files in it |
| 11:07.05 | ChrisW | but some of those seem to get run twice |
| 11:07.08 | ChrisW | and some not at all |
| 11:07.13 | ChrisW | trying to get to the bottom of it :-( |
| 11:07.21 | jm_ | run run-parts manually |
| 11:07.54 | jm_ | ahh wait, run-parts doesn't bother with this - it's cron that reads it |
| 11:07.58 | jm_ | as the man page says |
| 11:08.35 | Tony[] | saloxin: have installed... will watch and wait |
| 11:08.44 | *** join/#debian NoobieDoobieDo0 (n=No@adsl-70-240-67-216.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 11:09.27 | *** join/#debian enihprom (n=OldSpark@host21-86.pool80104.interbusiness.it) |
| 11:09.27 | maatttt | fail2ban looks neat. |
| 11:09.27 | *** join/#debian bind (i=bind@85.206.84.235) |
| 11:09.36 | jm_ | strace might show what it reads |
| 11:09.46 | jm_ | well it will show, not sure if it will help or not |
| 11:09.53 | *** part/#debian bind (i=bind@85.206.84.235) |
| 11:10.45 | *** join/#debian wolffc (n=wolff@dslb-084-063-013-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:10.51 | *** join/#debian lunitik (n=trey@ip68-231-8-75.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 11:11.25 | kronos | can someone tell me what spam filter/antivirus to use for incoming and outcoing mails on a mail server ? |
| 11:11.55 | *** join/#debian N0S3 (n=Admin@host239.201-252-220.telecom.net.ar) |
| 11:11.57 | ChrisW | jm_: *sigh* *cry* |
| 11:11.58 | jm_ | I use bogofilter for spam, and ur company uses amavis for viruses |
| 11:12.04 | ChrisW | thanks for the help this is a bitch of a problem :-S |
| 11:12.08 | jm_ | our even |
| 11:12.12 | lunitik | spamassasin/clamav? |
| 11:12.26 | Tony[] | saloxin: if I /msg you the ip can you try a couple of attempted logins? |
| 11:12.35 | lunitik | apt-cache search avoids many stupid questions |
| 11:12.49 | *** join/#debian nomar (n=sisltr@zaphod.insrv.cf.ac.uk) |
| 11:13.25 | widrone | Do update those ClamAV installs now, please. Muahahah! |
| 11:13.35 | ChrisW | where can I find decent docs on how cron handles the cron.d directory? |
| 11:13.58 | jm_ | chriswk: probably by looking at source code |
| 11:14.07 | ChrisW | jm_: *sigh* |
| 11:14.08 | kronos | tx |
| 11:14.25 | ChrisW | heh, but where on earth do you go to find the source for something like cron? |
| 11:14.36 | ericrar | install gcc-3.4 uninstall gcc-4.0 uninstall gcc-3.4-base uninstall cpp-3.4 how to do that? |
| 11:14.40 | ChrisW | and how do I find hte source for the particular version running on my machines? |
| 11:14.54 | lunitik | ChrisW: apt-get -d source cron :/ |
| 11:15.03 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 11:15.17 | *** join/#debian knj (n=kaspernj@cpe.atm2-0-7389.0x535981ea.naenxx9.customer.tele.dk) |
| 11:15.19 | nomar | Hi, I've just upgraded one of my boxes from sarge to etch however only root can successfully run a gnome session. any ideas how I fix this? |
| 11:15.21 | *** part/#debian NoobieDoobieDo0 (n=No@adsl-70-240-67-216.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net) |
| 11:15.23 | ericrar | now my system is disordered |
| 11:15.26 | jm_ | chriswk: apt-get source cron ... |
| 11:15.30 | jm_ | bah silly me |
| 11:15.33 | jm_ | ChrisW ^^^^ |
| 11:15.44 | lunitik | nomar: remove .ICEauthority and friends probably |
| 11:15.56 | jm_ | I see it's also comparing directories mtime to the old value |
| 11:16.08 | ericrar | gcc-3.3-base gcc-3.4-base gcc-3.4 cpp-3.4 gcc-4.0-base cpp-4.0 |
| 11:16.28 | ChrisW | jm_: was that thing about directory mtime's for me? |
| 11:16.35 | *** join/#debian magnetic (n=magnetic@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:16.40 | jm_ | and then it expects each entry in /etc/cron.d to be a file and processes it |
| 11:16.41 | Guerin | !mhallsmite ChrisW |
| 11:16.44 | *** join/#debian steigweis (n=steigwei@p5087931C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:16.44 | dpkg | Fuck ChrisW. Fuck it in the asshole with a big rubber dick. |
| 11:16.50 | *** join/#debian G2 (n=ghenry@195.38.86.72) |
| 11:17.03 | ChrisW | thanks Guerin, like I really need THAT this morning :'( |
| 11:17.07 | *** join/#debian lundse (n=chatzill@port348.ds1-abc.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 11:17.12 | ericrar | if i uninstall gcc-3.3-base that will uninstall libstdc++5 |
| 11:17.29 | Guerin | ChrisW: no sex like morning sex |
| 11:17.35 | ChrisW | jm_: well, they're all files, except the .svn folder |
| 11:17.41 | jm_ | ChrisW: yup - strace will show what it's reading |
| 11:17.49 | jm_ | ChrisW: directory, not folder! |
| 11:17.55 | jm_ | ChrisW: it also check the uid |
| 11:17.57 | ChrisW | yeah yeah ;-) |
| 11:18.01 | ChrisW | uid or what? |
| 11:18.04 | ChrisW | or = of |
| 11:18.07 | lundse | Hi. How do I enable PHP for all users? (all public_html folders) |
| 11:18.13 | jm_ | of the file - it logs an error if it's wrong |
| 11:18.18 | ChrisW | and how do I get strace output when a job runs in the middle of the night? |
| 11:18.20 | lundse | i am running apache2 and php4 |
| 11:18.21 | lunitik | ericrar: you really need it? because libstdc++6 is more recent :/ |
| 11:18.27 | widrone | ericrar: apt-get -s may show you, im not sure. |
| 11:18.29 | ChrisW | jm_: what logs an error where? |
| 11:18.49 | ChrisW | and how does that relate to the specific problems of one job being run twice, and another job not being run at all? |
| 11:18.57 | *** join/#debian cla (n=cla@193.15.169.115) |
| 11:19.05 | lunitik | ChrisW: cron... in /var/log/cron almost certainly... |
| 11:19.09 | jm_ | ChrisW: cron logs it via syslog |
| 11:19.19 | *** join/#debian shad0wcat (i=Ecto@c-e05f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:19.34 | cla | Where can I find information on Plupii/Lubber's impact on Debian? |
| 11:19.46 | cla | I've checked the official web site. Nothing. Should I worry= |
| 11:19.57 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 11:20.11 | Guerin | cla: it's documented on wormblog (.org?) |
| 11:20.15 | ChrisW | okay, I don't see anything in /var/log/cron out of hte ordinary, apart from the two entries at the same time for the same job |
| 11:20.21 | lunitik | Virii are awesome |
| 11:20.36 | cla | .com |
| 11:20.40 | ericrar | when i uninstall libstdc++5 that will uninstall a lot package about 20 |
| 11:20.42 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 11:20.45 | Guerin | cla: the only impact on debian is insofar as versions of vulnerable software are not yet in the security repos |
| 11:20.47 | jm_ | ChrisW: as for strace - pretty simple, schedule it to be run at whatever time is appropriate, however the issue may start sooner than that, i.e. when something changes and cron detects this and re-reads the dir |
| 11:21.09 | *** join/#debian encompass (n=jason@dsl-hkigw7-fedadc00-73.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 11:21.12 | encompass | hi all! |
| 11:21.19 | ChrisW | so does cron keep an in-memory list of this to do? |
| 11:21.24 | jm_ | sure |
| 11:21.26 | ChrisW | and when to do them? |
| 11:21.46 | ChrisW | (and I've never used strace, so would be totally clueless as to where to start) |
| 11:22.18 | *** join/#debian Paivakil (n=Mahesh@unaffiliated/paivakil) |
| 11:22.34 | encompass | I have my wireless card working, but I have to set it up everytime I turn the computer on... besides making a script to run everytime I boot what is a better way to keep the driver up |
| 11:22.55 | *** join/#debian chill (n=chill@chill.adsl.utwente.nl) |
| 11:23.17 | ericrar | apt-utils , realplayer , libtunepimp2 , epiphany-browser, mp3blaster, abiword-gnome ..... |
| 11:23.32 | jm_ | strace -s 1024 -o /root/strace.out -p pid, but it won't be of any help if you don't know how to use strace yourself |
| 11:23.41 | spdf | encompass, Is it encrypted? |
| 11:23.43 | *** join/#debian xoz (n=xoz@unaffiliated/xoz) |
| 11:25.14 | spdf | encompass, If not, then its as easy as adding to your /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:25.33 | ChrisW | jm_: indeed :-( |
| 11:25.56 | spdf | encompass, if you're using wpa_supplicant, then I don't have an answer handy.. |
| 11:26.41 | spdf | encompass, other than maybe making a script for preifup, that runs the wpa_supplicant, and then ifup's.. |
| 11:27.12 | *** join/#debian dmilush (n=dmilush@p54978C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:27.14 | ericrar | so i don't know how can i do that,if i must uninstall all of them and install |
| 11:27.32 | omis | i get "no shell" when im trying to su. is there any way to set the shell whitout boot whit "linux init:/etc/passwd/shell bla. |
| 11:27.50 | omis | changed from bash to zsh when this error showed up. |
| 11:27.52 | jm_ | !wayttd omis |
| 11:27.53 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, omis? |
| 11:28.33 | omis | jm_: i cannot root my machine. :> |
| 11:28.39 | jm_ | omis: wtf |
| 11:28.44 | nukis | hello all, |
| 11:28.48 | omis | "no shell" :( |
| 11:28.50 | Metrics | ummm |
| 11:28.54 | *** join/#debian drharm (n=stan@219-88-179-172.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 11:28.55 | Tony[] | saloxin: fail2ban rocks |
| 11:28.57 | nukis | how to intergrate dhcp with bind? |
| 11:29.02 | Tony[] | saloxin: fail2ban rocks |
| 11:29.05 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 11:29.06 | Tony[] | saloxin: thanks |
| 11:29.09 | Metrics | nukis: Here's a useful link. |
| 11:29.29 | Metrics | http://www.realmtech.net/documents/DynamicDNS.pdf |
| 11:29.55 | nukis | thanks |
| 11:30.05 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) |
| 11:31.43 | *** join/#debian jdhutchin1 (n=jdhutchi@user-0cdv0h3.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 11:32.30 | *** join/#debian osjetljiv_momak (n=MileniuM@195.222.35.90) |
| 11:33.07 | *** join/#debian Firestarter2 (n=Firestar@66.209.15.234) |
| 11:33.07 | encompass | yes it is |
| 11:33.09 | encompass | it is encrypted |
| 11:33.13 | *** part/#debian drharm (n=stan@219-88-179-172.jetstream.xtra.co.nz) |
| 11:33.17 | *** part/#debian nomar (n=sisltr@zaphod.insrv.cf.ac.uk) |
| 11:33.35 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:33.53 | maria | join #esdebian |
| 11:33.59 | maria | uy |
| 11:34.01 | maria | sorry |
| 11:34.09 | maria | Hello everybody |
| 11:34.26 | encompass | hi maria |
| 11:34.27 | nukis | thanks! |
| 11:34.53 | encompass | spdf what is wpasuplicant? |
| 11:35.07 | encompass | !msg me whatis wpa |
| 11:35.45 | *** join/#debian nkuttler_ (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-206-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:37.05 | *** join/#debian gerlari (n=gerlari@243.Red-80-35-102.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 11:37.21 | antgel | is alexis sukrieh here? anybody know his /nick if so? |
| 11:37.38 | *** join/#debian ast_ar (i=cld@nic-nac-project.de) |
| 11:38.04 | ast_ar | how to check how much REAL space on hdd take a file created and during downloading by azureus ? ls show me a max filesize but not real |
| 11:38.13 | antgel | omis: go back to bash |
| 11:38.14 | jm_ | tried du? |
| 11:38.30 | omis | antgel: im trying :> |
| 11:39.28 | ast_ar | oh!! yes, du.. i forget this ;) thanks |
| 11:39.29 | *** join/#debian netcatc (n=netcatc@srv1.aethra.com.br) |
| 11:39.32 | Guerin | ast_ar: you need to ask someone who knows azureus well. Some bt clients create and reserve the whole file immediately; other create a sparse file which appears to take up the full amount of space, but doesn't really. |
| 11:39.56 | Guerin | jm_ always has the simple option |
| 11:40.30 | Nurbs_ | Guerin: for each of these you can use du, though :) |
| 11:40.36 | jm_ | speaking of torrents, rtorrent from SVN has some nice fixes now |
| 11:40.44 | Guerin | Nurbs_: yeah. |
| 11:40.59 | Guerin | jm_: heh. i just use the releases |
| 11:41.26 | jm_ | Guerin: me too, but I needed one patch lately, otherwise it never connects to one tracker |
| 11:42.55 | jm_ | although it may have weird effect on rate reporting, it's reporting wrong totals now, not sure if it's related to that or not (I noticed it started reporting proper rates as of lates stable relase, and then wasn't paying much attention for a while, and now it's way off) |
| 11:43.05 | *** join/#debian kromagg (n=kromagg@ip-83-134-69-186.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 11:44.05 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) |
| 11:44.25 | Guerin | jm_: i want more features. Like remote control. |
| 11:45.19 | jm_ | Guerin: I feel that won't be done for quite a while, the only one I am really missing now is to stop sharing when certain ratio is reached - someone said (in October) he is working on that, so hopefully it will come out soon, otherwise I'll add it myself |
| 11:45.37 | *** join/#debian netcoffee (n=netcoffe@219.133.6.188) |
| 11:45.51 | *** part/#debian ChrisW (n=NotChris@host86-133-191-19.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:45.55 | *** join/#debian Valandil (n=chrys@dslb-084-056-072-141.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 11:46.01 | Guerin | jm_: in principle, remote control for add and drop should be easy to add. |
| 11:46.13 | Guerin | jm_: I just want to be able to script it. |
| 11:46.24 | jm_ | Guerin: sure, that's pretty easy, but having full control over it isn't |
| 11:46.47 | *** part/#debian netcoffee (n=netcoffe@219.133.6.188) |
| 11:46.52 | ast_ar | $du file show not real size :( |
| 11:46.56 | jm_ | naah, he said it's in his TODO anyway, and by the time you learn enough to be able to do it, it might be done anyway |
| 11:47.08 | ast_ar | du on directory show real disk usage of that directory |
| 11:47.12 | Guerin | jm_: heh, true. |
| 11:47.16 | ast_ar | so ?? what do i wrong ? |
| 11:47.32 | Guerin | ast_ar: du by itself may not. Read the manpage for explanation. |
| 11:47.34 | *** join/#debian ChrisW (n=NotChris@host86-133-191-19.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:47.45 | *** join/#debian wmli (n=wmli@hinoki.medic.chalmers.se) |
| 11:47.54 | jm_ | ast_ar: yes it does |
| 11:48.13 | jm_ | dd if=/dev/zero of=bla seek=200 bs=1M count=1 && du bla && du --apparent bla |
| 11:48.27 | *** join/#debian Lennart (n=len@a80-126-28-183.adsl.xs4all.nl) |
| 11:48.29 | *** join/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 11:48.50 | *** join/#debian jhonny (n=jhonny@202.58.255.78) |
| 11:50.48 | *** join/#debian OsRo (n=OsRo@62-15-230-131.inversas.jazztel.es) |
| 11:51.24 | *** join/#debian netcoffee (n=netcoffe@219.133.6.188) |
| 11:51.30 | *** join/#debian frcmstr (n=jon@p54A7EC7E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 11:51.55 | ChrisW | hrum |
| 11:51.55 | *** join/#debian Drinahn (n=edeards@CPE-61-9-184-17.vic.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:52.06 | ChrisW | I tried to apt-get source cron, and got: Unpack command 'dpkg-source -x cron_3.0pl1-86.dsc' failed. |
| 11:52.10 | ChrisW | wtf? |
| 11:52.37 | Drinahn | Hey has something arcane occurred with the non-us repository? I've not been able to get package lists from the AU mirrors for quite a while.. (read: perhaps a week or two) |
| 11:52.38 | jm_ | do you have it installed? |
| 11:52.43 | *** join/#debian kromagg_ (n=kromagg@ip-83-134-69-186.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 11:52.51 | *** part/#debian netcoffee (n=netcoffe@219.133.6.188) |
| 11:53.09 | ChrisW | cron? |
| 11:53.12 | ChrisW | I hope so ;-) |
| 11:53.14 | jm_ | no, dpkg-source |
| 11:53.14 | *** join/#debian FRIpolz (n=polz@ecg.fri.uni-lj.si) |
| 11:53.27 | ChrisW | I use aptitude nowadays |
| 11:53.31 | ChrisW | is there an equivalent for that? |
| 11:53.38 | jm_ | not that I know |
| 11:53.47 | jm_ | at least not in Sarge |
| 11:53.47 | ChrisW | or should I just "aptitude install dpkg-source"? |
| 11:54.10 | jm_ | dpkg-source is a command, not a package name |
| 11:54.51 | ChrisW | oh, sorry, thought you were implying that it was missing |
| 11:54.55 | ChrisW | so what do I type? |
| 11:55.00 | jm_ | I am :) |
| 11:55.13 | ChrisW | then how do I install it? :-P |
| 11:55.18 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) |
| 11:55.34 | jm_ | aptitude install foo? |
| 11:55.46 | FRIpolz | could anyone here point me to some sort of document perscribing how packages whose upstream names conflict with other packages already inside of debian should be build ? |
| 11:55.50 | ChrisW | yes, but what do I use for foo? |
| 11:55.53 | ChrisW | dpkg-source? |
| 11:55.56 | ChrisW | cron? |
| 11:56.01 | jm_ | ChrisW: no, /msg dpkg search |
| 11:56.06 | ChrisW | (I have cron already, I'm fairly sure ;-) ) |
| 11:56.36 | *** join/#debian lesviXlesvi (n=asanchez@83.230.233.116) |
| 11:56.40 | nksen | can I somehow run the installer from a running system? that is I wanna install grub like the installer does it |
| 11:56.47 | FRIpolz | I've been reading http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html#contents, but from that document I can't figure out what to do |
| 11:57.04 | jm_ | nksen: doesn't it just run grub-install devname? |
| 11:57.08 | *** join/#debian root___ (n=root@dsl-217-155-69-102.zen.co.uk) |
| 11:57.23 | nksen | jm_: what you say. I dunnow, but thx anyway. so there's nothing fancy about. |
| 11:57.28 | jm_ | FRIpolz: you mean how they should be named, not built? |
| 11:57.37 | jm_ | nksen: indeed |
| 11:58.11 | dmilush | could anyone share with me or give pointer online as how to configure kdev for debiAN, i searched with apt-cache and installed all packages but it's giving me errors |
| 11:58.29 | FRIpolz | jm_: both, actually |
| 11:58.49 | FRIpolz | jm_: the documents seem to assume a certain naming scheme |
| 11:59.01 | *** join/#debian sH4 (n=foo@221.167.26.29) |
| 11:59.20 | FRIpolz | jm_: you see, the original source is a .tar.gz containing a dir called "orange" |
| 11:59.49 | *** join/#debian shad0wcat (i=Ecto@c-e05f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:59.50 | FRIpolz | now dh_make assumes you're in the package directory, which should be named as "packagename-packageversion" |
| 12:00.01 | jm_ | FRIpolz: right |
| 12:00.21 | Drinahn | okay good, the urls given on the debian mirror page do indeed not work for non-US |
| 12:00.23 | FRIpolz | which is obviously impossible if the dir you originally untar to is called "orange" |
| 12:00.33 | jm_ | Drinahn: time to read about non-us |
| 12:00.43 | Drinahn | Ah so things have happened |
| 12:00.45 | Drinahn | cheers |
| 12:00.45 | FRIpolz | besides, I don't know how exactly I should name the package |
| 12:00.55 | FRIpolz | it's a cvs snapshot |
| 12:00.59 | jm_ | FRIpolz: that's why debian has its own source packages which follow this convention |
| 12:01.10 | jm_ | foo-cvs sounds good to me |
| 12:01.13 | *** join/#debian bob2_ (i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org) |
| 12:01.19 | jm_ | Drinahn: /msg dpkg non-us |
| 12:01.26 | Drinahn | ahh okay, so it's just been finally removed from mirrors and I've been so out of it I wasn't aware it was coming |
| 12:01.30 | Drinahn | Thanks jm_, thanks dpkg |
| 12:01.43 | Drinahn | yes, did that hehe |
| 12:01.43 | FRIpolz | dh_make assumes the version only contains numbers |
| 12:01.54 | jm_ | it was in topic for many months, but now it has been removed |
| 12:01.59 | *** join/#debian notPoncha (n=poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 12:02.18 | jm_ | FRIpolz: foo-YYYYMMDD |
| 12:02.41 | Drinahn | Ah I come in here about once every four hundred years when something breaks and I'm tired of googling or nutting it out myself |
| 12:02.51 | Drinahn | So I'd not see it in /topic |
| 12:02.54 | FRIpolz | jm_: aren't I supposed to append a build version number ? |
| 12:03.09 | jm_ | FRIpolz: what do you mean? |
| 12:03.10 | FRIpolz | jm_: rurning it into foo-yyymmdd-01 |
| 12:03.17 | FRIpolz | turning |
| 12:03.38 | jm_ | FRIpolz: well if you plan on doing this several times each day |
| 12:03.53 | FRIpolz | I'll have to, until I get it right |
| 12:04.07 | *** join/#debian amki (n=Urf@p50834FDD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 12:04.07 | FRIpolz | besides, later I might actually want to package a stable version |
| 12:04.34 | FRIpolz | someday in the future |
| 12:04.44 | *** join/#debian RaRe (i=Administ@58.69.90.188) |
| 12:05.04 | *** join/#debian BancOMat (n=Xj@host7-54.pool8253.interbusiness.it) |
| 12:05.25 | Drinahn | ah well with all sorted out I shall take my leave. See you all in four hundred years or so. |
| 12:05.27 | FRIpolz | jm_: so you're suggesting I should just rename the dir contained in the original snapshot ? |
| 12:05.54 | Metrics | Is anyone here successfully storing /etc in a CVS/SVN repo? |
| 12:06.48 | *** join/#debian h4mm3r` (n=h4mm3r@85-18-14-10.fastres.net) |
| 12:09.09 | *** join/#debian beyond (n=beyond@200-161-81-84.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 12:09.38 | *** join/#debian xaiki (n=xaiki@cxhome.ath.cx) |
| 12:10.41 | *** join/#debian Skrotto (n=magnus@129.241.158.68) |
| 12:10.52 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) |
| 12:11.18 | Skrotto | Hi. How do I change the timezone-settings on my system? |
| 12:11.22 | jm_ | FRIpolz: either that, or include orange.tar.gz in your source package which has a dir orange-blabla, whatever is best for you |
| 12:13.16 | *** join/#debian glutinous (n=steven@ppp169-24.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) |
| 12:14.09 | FRIpolz | jm_: how should the package versions be named ? |
| 12:14.18 | RaRe | Is there a shutdown button in debian? |
| 12:14.19 | *** join/#debian wolffc (n=wolff@dslb-084-063-013-060.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:14.24 | *** join/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 12:14.31 | FRIpolz | jm_: is it possible to have a package |
| 12:14.34 | *** join/#debian scarynetworkguy (n=sng@unaffiliated/scarynetworkguy) |
| 12:14.40 | RaRe | Or do i just pull the plug in my pc? |
| 12:14.48 | *** part/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 12:14.49 | FRIpolz | whose version is "svnYYYYMMDD-01" ? |
| 12:14.59 | FRIpolz | RaRe: ? |
| 12:15.02 | jm_ | FRIpolz: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-binary.html#s-versions |
| 12:15.08 | FRIpolz | RaRe: what do you mean ? |
| 12:15.17 | *** join/#debian mrj (n=mjohnson@pool-71-111-207-9.rlghnc.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 12:15.46 | RaRe | FRIpolz: well I just installed my first linux |
| 12:15.51 | jm_ | RaRe: display managers often have an option to display that, but it may not be enabled by default |
| 12:15.55 | RaRe | and wanted to trun my pc off |
| 12:16.05 | *** part/#debian Paivakil (n=Mahesh@unaffiliated/paivakil) |
| 12:16.29 | FRIpolz | jm_: the problem here is that dh_make will interpret the upstream version as a part of the package's name |
| 12:16.31 | RaRe | I searched to find a shutdown or l a log off option but to no avail =( |
| 12:16.47 | FRIpolz | RaRe: Hmm... |
| 12:16.54 | FRIpolz | RaRe: which desktop are you using ? |
| 12:16.59 | RaRe | Or I might just be blind.. :x |
| 12:17.04 | Kluster_v2 | RaRe, You can always type halt in a console |
| 12:17.08 | RaRe | I'm not really sure but I think it's gnome |
| 12:17.10 | jm_ | FRIpolz: I think not if it comes after -, i.e. mypkg-svnfoo |
| 12:17.19 | Metrics | RaRe: What distro are you using? |
| 12:17.23 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 12:17.28 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p578493B7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:17.30 | Metrics | RaRe: I would hope it would be debian. |
| 12:17.43 | RaRe | halt = shutdown? thanx ;) was typing 'quit' shutdown' and it wont work :x - I'm a real newbie at this linux |
| 12:17.50 | RaRe | yea, debian |
| 12:17.56 | RaRe | I used the net_inst |
| 12:17.59 | jm_ | shutdown is not in user's path by default |
| 12:17.59 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 12:18.14 | jm_ | and neither is halt |
| 12:18.17 | RaRe | :o |
| 12:18.19 | FRIpolz | jm_: it interprets the dir name as packagename-version, where version is [0-9] and packagename is[a-z,A-Z,0-9, |
| 12:18.23 | FRIpolz | \-] |
| 12:18.35 | antgel | !tell RaRe about grounding |
| 12:18.42 | *** join/#debian ivan (n=zzZZzz@203-214-150-106.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 12:18.55 | jm_ | FRIpolz: oh,, well I never dealt with dh_make, I built packages by hand |
| 12:19.00 | FRIpolz | RaRe: which login manager are you using ? |
| 12:19.02 | liable | well, tonight kernel compile has been a spectacular failure. 2.6.14 builds fine, but any madwifi compiles either fail to find wireless extensions, or fail to connect, the sid 2.6.14 wont even startx and i cant get madwifi to play with it either.. :( |
| 12:19.04 | Kluster_v2 | RaRe, you using gdm ? |
| 12:19.12 | jm_ | it's certainly a valid version as far as dpkg goes |
| 12:19.15 | FRIpolz | jm_: I guess I'm just too lazy |
| 12:19.30 | Metrics | RaRe: Until you get comfortable, just use `su -c halt` in an xterm, and use the root password. |
| 12:19.33 | FRIpolz | trying to avoid having to write the files by hand |
| 12:19.33 | RaRe | Sry.. I don't know =/ But I think it's gnome, cuz I can see the foot logo. |
| 12:19.44 | RaRe | ok thanx |
| 12:19.49 | FRIpolz | at least I'll only have to do this once |
| 12:19.52 | antgel | RaRe: please type in english |
| 12:19.52 | FRIpolz | jm_: 10x |
| 12:19.57 | jm_ | FRIpolz: naah, it's good to use standardized methods, I did this several years ago and wanted to do something quickly |
| 12:20.19 | *** join/#debian lovelinux (n=root@221.13.254.129) |
| 12:20.21 | *** join/#debian jc-denton (n=nils@zux173-061.adsl.green.ch) |
| 12:20.27 | Kluster_v2 | Rare, GDM is gnome's login manager, and you can click to shutdown or reboot. Might be good for you. Plus you can set a cool background :) |
| 12:20.38 | *** part/#debian jc-denton (n=nils@zux173-061.adsl.green.ch) |
| 12:20.52 | *** join/#debian __DL__ (i=vanicat@debian/developer/vanicat) |
| 12:20.55 | RaRe | ok, thanx for all the help |
| 12:20.59 | *** join/#debian vmhobbes (n=id@ipdial-182-63.tri-isys.com) |
| 12:21.01 | *** join/#debian dannyr (n=chatzill@realtek.net.au) |
| 12:21.04 | RaRe | i'll be back to explore some more |
| 12:21.18 | *** join/#debian Beleys (i=sauget@tolkien.iut-bm.univ-fcomte.fr) |
| 12:22.07 | Beleys | Poy |
| 12:22.55 | Ronin | poy? sure id love some,that and some kahaula pig to go with it Beleys |
| 12:23.12 | *** join/#debian silverwolf (n=silverwo@x1-6-00-d0-68-06-20-94.k592.webspeed.dk) |
| 12:24.05 | *** join/#debian mynx (n=dnbqueen@adsl-23-223.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 12:25.14 | *** join/#debian Jacobo221 (i=jacobo@109.Red-81-32-243.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:25.20 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 12:25.52 | *** join/#debian Holborn (n=holborn@237.Red-217-125-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:26.04 | *** join/#debian calmar_ (i=calmar@84-73-240-158.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:26.28 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) |
| 12:26.32 | Metrics | So am I correct in assuming that no-one stores /etc in version control? |
| 12:26.41 | mkl1525 | Hi, is it possible using rsync to set the owner of the transferred file and not preserver the current one? |
| 12:26.45 | jm_ | Metrics: no |
| 12:26.51 | Jacobo221 | hi, is k3b available on etch? i upgraded to kde3.4 and looks like it's dissapeared. can someone confirm this? |
| 12:27.01 | jm_ | Jacobo221: /msg dpkg why is k3b not in testing |
| 12:27.11 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (n=Korben@i216-58-59-56.cybersurf.com) |
| 12:27.21 | Metrics | jm_: Does that mean you are or are not? |
| 12:27.54 | jm_ | Metrics: not me, but there are howtos - maybe I remember it wrongly, but it's possible something about this was mentioned in DWN |
| 12:29.12 | Metrics | jm_: Ahh, see I'm looking for some real world experience, cause I haven't found any real solutions. |
| 12:29.16 | *** join/#debian Fritol (n=fritak@r5u151.chello.upc.cz) |
| 12:29.33 | Jacobo221 | jm_: ok thanks :) |
| 12:30.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 771] by debhelper |
| 12:31.19 | jm_ | maybe it was on debian-administration.org, I forgot |
| 12:32.05 | *** join/#debian BeFalou (i=mamutoi@unaffiliated/befalou) |
| 12:32.59 | BeFalou | hi |
| 12:33.48 | *** join/#debian net-no2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 12:34.04 | Fritol | hi |
| 12:35.22 | Fritol | plz,does anybody knows about fireglcontrolpanel? (Debian amd64) |
| 12:35.31 | BeFalou | I'm making a backport of 3.4.2-4 and now kdelibs4 is named kdelibs4c2, it is in replaces so, can packages depending on the old name "detect" the new one? |
| 12:35.32 | Fritol | couldn!t run that command :(( |
| 12:36.27 | *** join/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 12:36.31 | *** join/#debian oceano28 (n=xxxxxxxx@219.83.4.65) |
| 12:36.34 | *** part/#debian net-no2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 12:37.36 | *** join/#debian RaRe (n=RaRe@58.69.90.188) |
| 12:37.39 | BeFalou | btw, what I do now is an empty package called kdelibs4 which depends on kdelibs4c2, is that the only solution? |
| 12:37.47 | *** join/#debian Konqi_ (n=wolff@dslb-084-063-010-251.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 12:37.54 | *** join/#debian kneet (n=chris@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) |
| 12:38.33 | *** join/#debian pureone (n=pureone@host86-136-99-68.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:40.29 | *** join/#debian RaRe (n=RaRe@58.69.90.188) |
| 12:40.43 | Skrotto | Hi. If I did "pvcreate /dev/hdf1", does that mean I wiped that partition? |
| 12:41.16 | FRIpolz | Skrotto: I think so. |
| 12:41.37 | Skrotto | Damn. In that case it whiped 250GB of data in no-time :> |
| 12:41.50 | *** join/#debian VivekVC (n=user@unaffiliated/VivekVC) |
| 12:42.18 | FRIpolz | Skrotto: well, at least it was _you_ who wiped the data, not some stupid hardware manufacturer |
| 12:42.26 | Skrotto | Thats correct :) |
| 12:42.34 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-240-158.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 12:42.52 | *** join/#debian gerard_ (n=gerard@delgul.demon.nl) |
| 12:42.55 | FRIpolz | anyway, if that data were important, you wouldn't be smiling like you are now :) |
| 12:42.59 | *** part/#debian Jacobo221 (i=jacobo@109.Red-81-32-243.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:43.00 | mynx | hehe, whip |
| 12:43.08 | Skrotto | FRIpolz: I'm too tired to care. :p |
| 12:43.16 | *** part/#debian ChrisW (n=NotChris@host86-133-191-19.range86-133.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:43.22 | ircdevil | is there some metapackage to install all sorts of ttf fonts? |
| 12:44.14 | *** join/#debian chemaja (n=chemaja@DC-164-182.bpb.bigpond.com) |
| 12:44.53 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 12:44.57 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 12:47.08 | *** join/#debian auberg457 (n=aubergin@85-10-226-22.clients.your-server.de) |
| 12:47.19 | RaRe | How should debian look after a fresh install? Because I've got a gut feel that I messed up big time... <: |
| 12:47.39 | *** join/#debian kavorka (n=mike@69-161-69-17.bflony.adelphia.net) |
| 12:47.41 | jm_ | it depends on what you install ... |
| 12:47.44 | Ronin | RaRe: all depends on you |
| 12:47.58 | Ronin | sweet, buildings about to be evacuated again |
| 12:48.26 | RaRe | Well, during the net_inst i chose only 2 packages - desktop environment and Manual something (the last item). |
| 12:48.44 | *** join/#debian LiX|BG4CRF (n=Adman@222.67.45.164) |
| 12:48.50 | kneet | annoying. i dislike having to run vmware enough already - but that each time i run it it disables both shift and ctrl keys is worse |
| 12:49.08 | RaRe | Then on the next screen I got alot of listed files.. some highlighted some weren't I just pressed "g" to downloand and install it |
| 12:49.29 | Kluster_v2 | RaRe, hit CTRL-ALT-F1, that's what it looks for me after a fresh install |
| 12:49.44 | *** join/#debian jesperj (n=jesper@c213-89-79-79.cm-upc.chello.se) |
| 12:49.51 | RaRe | -.- |
| 12:50.17 | *** join/#debian Tidus (n=tidus@unaffiliated/tidus) |
| 12:51.00 | nkuttler | RaRe: and... what happened after it was installed? |
| 12:52.07 | RaRe | nothing, i'm on my linux now.. but it's using gnome (i think) and i'm still losing my shutdown button/gdm |
| 12:52.20 | jm_ | I told you you need to enable that in gdm |
| 12:52.22 | *** join/#debian kailer (n=kailer@ip68-99-180-128.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 12:52.23 | RaRe | and i think i read that debian uses kde as deafult right? |
| 12:52.29 | kailer | morning folks |
| 12:52.30 | nkuttler | no |
| 12:52.31 | RaRe | where's the gdm |
| 12:52.42 | Tidus | RaRe: if you select 'Desktop system' at the base config screen it'll install gnome instead of kde |
| 12:52.55 | RaRe | oh.. |
| 12:53.18 | *** join/#debian gerard_ (n=gerard@delgul.demon.nl) |
| 12:53.19 | Kluster_v2 | RaRe, gdm id the login manager.. so if you close your session you will see it. If you don't have it, you can type "apt-get install gdm" as superuser |
| 12:53.36 | *** join/#debian magyar (n=Ondrash@206-248-137-43.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 12:54.02 | Kluster_v2 | btw to be superuser you need to type "su" |
| 12:54.12 | RaRe | ok |
| 12:54.27 | Kluster_v2 | and don'T worry about being lost.. I am too :) |
| 12:54.30 | jm_ | RaRe: /etc/X11/gdm/gdm.conf --> SystemMenu=true |
| 12:54.35 | jm_ | AFAIK anyway |
| 12:54.42 | RaRe | ;) |
| 12:55.42 | *** join/#debian nomar (n=sisltr@zaphod.insrv.cf.ac.uk) |
| 12:55.50 | *** join/#debian kneet (n=chris@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) |
| 12:55.55 | RaRe | Also.. I didn't have xchat a while ago in gnome menu a while ago, but when I typed xchat on the terminal it opened |
| 12:56.02 | jesperj | http://pastebin.com/421641 < Please help. Running testing, when "apt-get upgrade", cups got messed up since configuration of cupsys-driver-gutenprint dies while configuring. |
| 12:56.27 | nomar | it seems that the permissions on /dev/null are causing me problems. normall users can't write to /dev/null, and the permissions change back at boot |
| 12:56.35 | RaRe | and now my menu shows xchat but whenever I open it, it doesn't remember my settings etc.. |
| 12:56.41 | *** join/#debian ovis (n=ovis@212pc215.sshunet.nl) |
| 12:57.01 | jm_ | jesperj: so fix it or check BTS |
| 12:57.26 | jesperj | jm_, "so fix it" < obviously I don't know how, or I would have done it |
| 12:57.27 | *** join/#debian Mo-Ize (n=momo@elvire.enst.fr) |
| 12:57.37 | kailer | how can i tell which architectureis right for my system? |
| 12:57.47 | jm_ | jesperj: then don't use testing? |
| 12:57.59 | jesperj | jm_, thank you for your very constructive help |
| 12:58.01 | jm_ | kailer: and the context? |
| 12:58.04 | Fritol | #ati.cz |
| 12:58.04 | RaRe | jm_: it's set on true already |
| 12:58.05 | jm_ | jesperj: anytime |
| 12:58.07 | Fritol | oops |
| 12:58.13 | jm_ | RaRe: does it have # at the front? |
| 12:58.20 | jesperj | jm_, big sarcastic ":)" |
| 12:59.06 | ovis | my debian machine said : |
| 12:59.08 | ovis | libc6-dev: Depends: libc6 (= 2.3.2.ds1-22) but 2.2.5-11.8 is installed |
| 12:59.35 | ovis | can i just safely upgrade the clib ? |
| 12:59.51 | jm_ | no! |
| 13:00.01 | *** join/#debian pureone (n=pureone@host86-136-99-68.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:00.20 | ovis | from 2.2.5 to 2.3.2 is a big jump right |
| 13:00.35 | jm_ | 2.2 was in Potato, 2.3 is in Sarge |
| 13:00.37 | nkuttler | ovis: hm, what did you do? you don't seem to be running sarge |
| 13:00.57 | ovis | nkuttler : nope woody i guess |
| 13:00.59 | kailer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.06 | RaRe | jm_: nope |
| 13:01.07 | kailer | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:01.15 | *** join/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@ppp16-adsl-98.ath.forthnet.gr) |
| 13:01.16 | nkuttler | ovis: any reasons not to upgrade to sarge? |
| 13:01.21 | *** join/#debian Fermi (n=West@spnp217115.spnp.nus.edu.sg) |
| 13:01.37 | jm_ | RaRe: hmm strange - I don't use gdm so I don't know details, but apparently this should cut it |
| 13:01.50 | xelam | kailer: this MIGHT work - replace /etc/apt/sources.list with debian variety, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 13:01.53 | ovis | nkuttler: big server with a lot of users |
| 13:01.55 | xelam | or might fail horribly :) |
| 13:02.23 | RaRe | jm: perhaps I'm just really blind.. but maybe if you could describe on what part of the menu the gdm should be at? or how it looks? |
| 13:02.25 | *** join/#debian mrec (n=revenger@p54B00A80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:02.30 | kailer | xelam: i'm lookign to wipe the drive and install fresh would that work? |
| 13:02.40 | xelam | what I suggested, no |
| 13:02.40 | ovis | nkuttler: if it failes its a a big prob ;) |
| 13:02.42 | *** part/#debian mynx (n=dnbqueen@adsl-23-223.swiftdsl.com.au) |
| 13:02.42 | *** join/#debian verenal (n=verenal@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:02.58 | kailer | xelam: didn't thinkt thanks for the idea so bu |
| 13:03.02 | *** join/#debian verenal (n=verenal@p508A6CE0.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:03.05 | nkuttler | ovis: when there are no security updates for woody you will get in trouble |
| 13:03.27 | ovis | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 13:03.27 | ovis | 3.0 |
| 13:03.31 | nkuttler | ovis: anyhow, if you get that error you probably messed your sources.list somehow |
| 13:03.33 | ovis | is 3 woody ? |
| 13:03.54 | ovis | nkuttler: i look in to that |
| 13:04.04 | nkuttler | 3.0 is woody |
| 13:04.15 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 13:04.33 | *** join/#debian GyrosGeier (n=richtesi@port-212-202-73-180.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:04.37 | *** join/#debian notPoncha (n=poncha@unaffiliated/poncha) |
| 13:04.38 | GyrosGeier | hi |
| 13:04.45 | *** join/#debian darkstego (n=bubshait@30-188-254-84.skylogicnet.it) |
| 13:04.50 | kailer | would there be a reason that it wouldn't boot the alpha architecture? i run a sony viao r505 if that matters |
| 13:05.17 | darkstego | hey all, I have been getting the oddest error with my nvidia drivers for debian |
| 13:05.35 | GyrosGeier | I have a problem with ISC dhcpd, namely that it doesn't hand out filenames to clients; all other BOOTP options are just fine |
| 13:06.04 | jm_ | RaRe: how about /etc/gdm/gdm.conf ? |
| 13:06.19 | kailer | anyone? |
| 13:06.22 | darkstego | whenever I reboot the Xserver refuses to start because nvidia could not initialize the device (without any other error or warning) |
| 13:06.24 | jm_ | RaRe: apparently there's also gdmsetup tool |
| 13:06.51 | nkuttler | ovis: please don't /msg me. do you have any unofficial sources in the list? |
| 13:07.12 | darkstego | and the only way to resolve it is by re-installing the SAME nvidia driver package?? does that make sense? |
| 13:07.17 | ovis | sorry automatic |
| 13:07.33 | ovis | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.48 | jm_ | darkstego: about the librariers or what? |
| 13:07.59 | nkuttler | ovis: they say stable. you don't run stable. |
| 13:08.00 | RaRe | jm_: @gdm.conf yea i see it |
| 13:08.10 | darkstego | no libraries involved jm_ |
| 13:08.12 | jm_ | RaRe: paste it on some pastebin site |
| 13:08.22 | jm_ | darkstego: what is it then? |
| 13:08.29 | jm_ | darkstego: just module not loaded? |
| 13:08.41 | darkstego | nvidia module |
| 13:08.47 | jm_ | darkstego: put it in /etc/modules |
| 13:08.48 | ovis | nkuttler: i am not an exprert with debian |
| 13:09.22 | RaRe | jm_: http://pastebin.com/421651 |
| 13:09.30 | nkuttler | ovis: stable is sarge now. change all stable to woody. of course that may fail with the unofficial repository. |
| 13:09.35 | darkstego | everytime I reboot I am forced to run dpkg -i nvidia-kernel |
| 13:09.55 | ovis | oke ill look in to that |
| 13:09.56 | nkuttler | ovis: and that potato line looks bad |
| 13:10.30 | *** join/#debian Kbyte (n=nontelad@host196-50.pool8257.interbusiness.it) |
| 13:10.53 | jm_ | RaRe: did you change this file recently? |
| 13:11.28 | RaRe | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:11.38 | darkstego | jm_: running "modprobe nvidia" doesn't resolve it |
| 13:11.43 | kailer | i gues i'll come back later |
| 13:11.43 | jm_ | RaRe: you have to be root to edit it |
| 13:11.50 | jm_ | darkstego: maybe it's tls thing then? |
| 13:11.59 | darkstego | what is tls? |
| 13:12.04 | RaRe | jm_: But I think i'm on root already.. |
| 13:12.31 | jm_ | RaRe: well it looks OK to me, did you try restarting gdm or running gdmsetup? |
| 13:13.23 | *** join/#debian fermigier (n=fermigie@gateway.nuxeo.com) |
| 13:13.25 | *** join/#debian neil (n=neil@202.125.25.87) |
| 13:13.31 | jm_ | darkstego: someone had similar problem in the morning and was told to use nvidia's installer directly, not creating debs - i.e. something related to /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx - however it works OK for me, so I don't know why you need to do this, did you try if modprobe nvidia helps? |
| 13:13.57 | RaRe | jm_: restarting, yes. gdm setup? Oh and I was able to see the GDM window whenever I login to my debian |
| 13:14.08 | darkstego | jm_: modprobe doesn't help |
| 13:14.25 | jm_ | RaRe: no, type gdmsetup as root (you probably need to be in X to do it) |
| 13:14.26 | darkstego | I don't know what the reinstall package does that makes it work |
| 13:14.36 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 13:14.58 | jm_ | darkstego: ok so you need to investigate some more then, maybe it's tls stuff (try sticking exit 0 at the top of /etc/init.d/nvidia-glx and see if it helps |
| 13:15.53 | jm_ | RaRe: or gdmconfig, try this too |
| 13:15.55 | RaRe | jm_: thx for all the help but I think I'm gonna just have to try a new install and not from a netinst |
| 13:16.07 | *** join/#debian KuSaNaGi[Aw] (i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.185) |
| 13:16.20 | jm_ | RaRe: no!!! |
| 13:16.23 | KuSaNaGi[Aw] | /server -m Irc.Clan-KillerZ.Net |
| 13:16.25 | *** part/#debian KuSaNaGi[Aw] (i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.185) |
| 13:16.29 | *** join/#debian green-mouse (n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-245.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 13:17.01 | *** part/#debian aniline (n=user@fyodor.hcoop.net) |
| 13:17.06 | RaRe | jm_: ? |
| 13:17.09 | *** join/#debian apostlecn (n=happyIRC@218.18.51.8) |
| 13:17.09 | apostlecn | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:17.32 | jm_ | RaRe: it will most likely be the same, so you'll just waste more time instead of fixing the real problem |
| 13:17.33 | darkstego | ok jm_ I will try it, thanks |
| 13:17.46 | *** join/#debian neild (n=neil@202.125.25.87) |
| 13:19.03 | Ronin | apostlecn: english would go a long way :) |
| 13:19.15 | *** join/#debian fusspils (n=fusspils@194-144-36-99.du.xdsl.is) |
| 13:19.24 | RaRe | jm_: my debian right now is just terrible =/ I can't get my resolution higher than 800x640 and though im logged in as root AFAIK I still can't edit xfree86 (or something like this) config to add in higher resolution |
| 13:19.45 | jm_ | RaRe: work on one thing at a time, don't mix things, otherwise you'll get nowhere |
| 13:28.45 | jm_ | RaRe: find it where? |
| 13:29.25 | *** join/#debian Aer (n=aer@m63.net81-66-46.noos.fr) |
| 13:29.25 | *** join/#debian newtoirc (n=chatzill@82.18.249.55) |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian fusspils (n=fusspils@194-144-36-99.du.xdsl.is) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian green-mouse (n=green-mo@CBL217-132-88-245.bb.netvision.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian Kbyte (n=nontelad@host196-50.pool8257.interbusiness.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian GyrosGeier (n=richtesi@port-212-202-73-180.dynamic.qsc.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian NLoRD (n=mikeg@ppp16-adsl-98.ath.forthnet.gr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian ovis (n=ovis@212pc215.sshunet.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian nomar (n=sisltr@zaphod.insrv.cf.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian gerard_ (n=gerard@delgul.demon.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian aubergine (n=aubergin@85-10-226-22.clients.your-server.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian Never^ (n=never@0x50a6a4c0.naenxx7.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian RaRe (n=RaRe@58.69.90.188) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.27 | *** join/#debian BeFalou (i=mamutoi@unaffiliated/befalou) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.28 | *** join/#debian Fritol (n=fritak@r5u151.chello.upc.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.28 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (n=Korben@i216-58-59-56.cybersurf.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.28 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian vmhobbes (n=id@ipdial-182-63.tri-isys.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian glutinous (n=steven@ppp169-24.lns1.per1.internode.on.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian Skrotto (n=magnus@129.241.158.68) |
| 13:29.29 | *** join/#debian xaiki (n=xaiki@cxhome.ath.cx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.30 | *** join/#debian bob2_ (i=rob@crumbs.ertius.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.30 | *** join/#debian Nosklo (n=nosklo@unaffiliated/nosklo) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.31 | *** join/#debian FRIpolz (n=polz@ecg.fri.uni-lj.si) |
| 13:29.31 | *** join/#debian frcmstr (n=jon@p54A7EC7E.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.31 | *** join/#debian jhonny (n=jhonny@202.58.255.78) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.31 | *** join/#debian wmli (n=wmli@hinoki.medic.chalmers.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian netcatc (n=netcatc@srv1.aethra.com.br) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian ast_ar (i=cld@nic-nac-project.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-206-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian Firestarter2 (n=Firestar@66.209.15.234) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.32 | *** join/#debian TimeRider (n=time@timerider.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian dmilush (n=dmilush@p54978C33.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian cla (n=cla@193.15.169.115) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian G2 (n=ghenry@195.38.86.72) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian N0S3 (n=Admin@host239.201-252-220.telecom.net.ar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.33 | *** join/#debian enihprom (n=OldSpark@host21-86.pool80104.interbusiness.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian beezly (n=beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian yoo (n=yoo@yoo.dyndns.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-76-15.cpe.unwired.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian nksen (n=rigo@internetdiskette.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian gAri- (n=user@tryman.hu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.34 | *** join/#debian yang_ (n=yang@shells.euroshells.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.35 | *** join/#debian mariano (n=mariano@200-122-1-78.dsl.prima.net.ar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.35 | *** join/#debian johny (n=johny@nobugconsulting.ro) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.35 | *** join/#debian bn` (n=bn@p54A8045D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.35 | *** join/#debian azeem (n=mbanck@host45.natpool.mwn.de) |
| 13:29.36 | *** join/#debian SlammerXP (n=Mart@ti521110a080-1438.bb.online.no) |
| 13:29.36 | *** join/#debian Zeit|idle (n=wurscht@p54A797E8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.36 | *** join/#debian lixus (n=lixuss@lixus.dtm.ops.eu.uu.net) |
| 13:29.36 | *** join/#debian floe (n=konversa@i577B18CD.versanet.de) |
| 13:29.37 | *** join/#debian dub (n=dub@damagedgoods.co.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.37 | *** join/#debian Assassin5 (n=Assassin@62.49.173.155) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.37 | *** join/#debian Tallia1-KubuntuB (n=andrea@cust-65-110-27-27.sfu-reznet.connectwest.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.37 | *** join/#debian bibe (n=bibe@195.206.1.61) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#debian Beik (n=patrick@e181111085.adsl.alicedsl.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#debian Mirrie (n=Mirrie@c-82-192-226-48.customer.ggaweb.ch) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#debian sod (n=sod@balls.uniques.ro) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#debian l3m (n=l3m@ifidyn167.ifi.unizh.ch) |
| 13:29.38 | *** join/#debian nissemus (n=morgo@217-140-246-41.adsl-net.finnetcom.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.39 | *** join/#debian HmJ (i=hemry@hemry.dtiltas.lt) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.39 | *** join/#debian ledet (n=thomas@p3m/member/ledet) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.39 | *** join/#debian Router_hh (n=Miranda@cm-83-97-136-121.telecable.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.39 | *** join/#debian lawn (n=lorne@60-234-131-235.bitstream.orcon.net.nz) |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian Ugly_Duck (n=ugly_duc@203-96-150-208.cable.paradise.net.nz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian KetuaLembuLaut (n=KLL@202.186.101.151) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian mikal (n=mikal@213.184.199.226) |
| 13:29.40 | *** join/#debian kane_ (n=kane@perl.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.41 | *** join/#debian Pecisk (n=peterisk@purvc44-54.maksinets.lv) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.41 | *** join/#debian zerocoder (n=zerocode@port-ip-213-211-228-115.reverse.mdcc-fun.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.41 | *** join/#debian valdyn (n=valdyn@ppp-82-135-68-52.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.41 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 13:29.41 | *** join/#debian Ecnassianer (n=ecna@crown-6-251.resnet.ucsc.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.42 | *** join/#debian jolly- (n=hrhr@bo11836.hit.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.42 | *** join/#debian usn_work (n=usn@p54B5A242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.42 | *** join/#debian dimir (n=dimir@195.244.157.151) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.42 | *** join/#debian bend-a (n=juergens@isf218.isf.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian bwana147_ (n=cbouvi@lns-bzn-30-82-253-160-224.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian MoDaX (n=nth@2002:d47a:474e:0:0:0:0:1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian lobz (n=lobz@fs1.wit-sys.hu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian EspeonEefi (i=espeonee@CERULEANCITY.MIT.EDU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian uwe (n=uwe@83.244.76.184) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.44 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@145.253.117.242) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.44 | *** join/#debian hron (n=hron@mm-142-246-209-82.adsl.mgts.by) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.44 | *** join/#debian ackron_ (n=ackron@213.219.161.253) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.44 | *** join/#debian vojko (n=vojko@BSN-77-157-214.dsl.siol.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.44 | *** join/#debian Dave (n=Dave@cpc1-lutn6-3-0-cust104.lutn.cable.ntl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.45 | *** join/#debian xcyborg_ (n=service@ns.bitdefender.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.45 | *** join/#debian Coke (n=peter@ferlin.it.su.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.45 | *** join/#debian Edis0n (n=weber@u16-173.dsl.vianetworks.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.45 | *** join/#debian Lorvija (n=lorvija@dsl-lprgw1-fea8de00-152.dhcp.inet.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.45 | *** join/#debian Gnea (i=gnea@uses.linux.so.he.does.not.get.bs.ods.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian Caesar (n=apollock@debian/developer/apollock) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian btsdev_ (n=brian@adsl-69-238-125-38.dsl.pltn13.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian saapas (n=saapas@a80-186-175-99.elisa-laajakaista.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian widrone (n=dronebot@bzzzt.fix.no) |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian baffle (i=baffle@endor.stenstad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian kalve (i=thomas@gruvi.jodal.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian lahgoon (n=mikal@ti511210a080-4450.bb.online.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian rr72 (n=rr72@about/cooking/nakedchef/desserts/rr72) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.47 | *** join/#debian omry (n=Omry@IGLD-84-228-184-104.inter.net.il) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian spantiga (i=spantiga@pdpc/supporter/active/voltar) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian SheriF_HomE (n=wolf@81.10.62.121) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian john (i=john@if-core.info) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.48 | *** join/#debian grover (n=evermuse@adsl-68-72-162-9.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.49 | *** join/#debian |splat| (n=sweetbre@pcp0011415952pcs.desoto01.md.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.49 | *** join/#debian TasteOfDeath (n=tod@i53874245.versanet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.49 | *** join/#debian Dragon_Fire (n=U-235@171.41.atm.restel.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.49 | *** join/#debian Nurbs_ (i=tom@p50895ECB.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.49 | *** join/#debian freedom101_ (n=freedom1@modemcable149.222-131-66.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian EmleyMoor (n=phil@firthpark.tinsleyviaduct.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian Bombo (i=bombo@p50837B0C.dip.t-dialin.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-208-221.dsl.telepac.pt) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian umeboshi (n=umeboshi@pcp01317214pcs.hatisb01.ms.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian guru (n=joe@pdpc/supporter/active/guru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.51 | *** join/#debian kurtkraut (n=ktk@space.sbyte.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.51 | *** join/#debian oKtosiTe (n=oKtosiTe@ip5450f737.speed.planet.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.51 | *** join/#debian cheal (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.51 | *** join/#debian YGingras_ (n=YGingras@132.208.136.201) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.51 | *** join/#debian kvidell (i=id136@adsl-63-204-157-35.dsl.snfc21.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian caplink811_log (n=caplink8@dslb-084-059-093-142.pools.arcor-ip.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian opqdonut (n=opqdonut@ip217-64-180-12.adsl.academica.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian FlimFlamMan (n=FlimFlam@d65h243.public.uconn.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian Sweetsha2k (n=bjoern@d025150.adsl.hansenet.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian Cope (n=sanelson@vm.wibbleworld.org.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.52 | *** join/#debian jax_ (n=jax@216.211.176.128) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian laurens__ (n=laurens@213-193-182-140.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-9-91.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian Fackamato (i=Fackamat@81-229-119-116-no24.tbcn.telia.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian JoshH (i=josh@josh.xmission.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian pmdboi (i=cwillmor@mac1.genomics.purdue.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.53 | *** join/#debian jades (n=J@64-166-248-24.ded.pacbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian buz__ (n=dargwin@ppp-82-135-82-153.mnet-online.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian Dalik (n=dalik@pc215-200.spk.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian pass (n=chatzill@owt-64-146-239-67.owt.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian jojux (n=joju@golomb.math.uni-paderborn.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian moshii (n=daniel@2001:4bd0:202c:0:a00:20ff:fec0:ffee) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian Trixsey|Laptop (i=shus_@c-279072d5.012-2011-73746f31.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.55 | *** join/#debian ciphergoth (n=paul@host226.lshift.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.55 | *** join/#debian ecc (i=EgBlBkHK@c-24-3-154-200.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 13:29.55 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphye@24-247-60-194.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.55 | *** join/#debian gst (i=gst@eris.sysfrog.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.55 | *** join/#debian Buz_ (n=fe@MN1-2A-u-0211.mc.onolab.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.56 | *** join/#debian jhaig (n=jhaig@mantis.office.netline.net.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.56 | *** join/#debian inc|fReAkY (i=alpha2@freakyy.de) |
| 13:29.56 | *** join/#debian azreal (i=azreal@209-193-18-173-cdsl-rb1.jnu.acsalaska.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.56 | *** join/#debian |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.56 | *** join/#debian Hak`M|afk (n=hakm@82-197-199-242.dsl.cambrium.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian Noid (n=rsalazar@157.Red-217-126-167.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian IPIXNIC (i=sublime@draft.out.lag.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian Mage_ (i=mage@81-188-70-124.adsl.easynet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian vladkao (n=vladkao@office.interbild.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian elements (i=elements@62.220.160.250) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.57 | *** join/#debian sintex (n=snx@host-84-9-11-235.bulldogdsl.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian chriswk (n=chriswk@cD9089959.inet.catch.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian ekix (i=eki@YZMMDCCCLXXXV.dsl.saunalahti.fi) |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian terje` (n=terje@d5152224D.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian stew (n=stew@mudskipper.vireo.org) |
| 13:29.58 | *** join/#debian xbmodder (i=nobody@unaffiliated/xbmodder) |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#debian jing (n=ming@CPE0002a5b23cad-CM0011aea72b1a.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#debian at0m|c (n=at0m@d51520397.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#debian Rocker_ (n=msn1@dima1.firstvds.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#debian tekniklr (n=tekniklr@cpe-24-59-76-187.twcny.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:29.59 | *** join/#debian roral (i=Muffin@h154.136.255.206.cable.pnbl.cablelynx.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian hackeron_ (n=hackeron@81-178-77-164.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian efaistos (n=efaistos@m163.net81-64-227.noos.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian pepperpot (n=nobody__@230-48-222-209.mycybernet.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.00 | *** join/#debian seeraa (n=ser@fox.stormbind.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.01 | *** join/#debian Snake-Eyes (n=blog@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.01 | *** join/#debian c0llyw0bbl3s (n=kvirc@reezeh.gotadsl.co.uk) |
| 13:30.01 | *** join/#debian litage (n=nick@203.220.55.70) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.01 | *** join/#debian yam (i=jj@rev-193-97.virtu.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.02 | *** join/#debian Rawplayer (n=kevin@ipc31055d2.oom-killer.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.02 | *** join/#debian spark_ (i=spark@spark.student.utwente.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.04 | *** join/#debian zoid (n=zoid@MW-ESR1-66-117-233-28.fuse.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.06 | *** join/#debian yuki_ (n=yuki@p6208-ipad08matuyama.ehime.ocn.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.06 | *** join/#debian FlameMantisBadgr (n=Miranda@82-69-212-38.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.06 | *** join/#debian Deek (n=deek@c-67-167-165-112.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.06 | *** join/#debian _sss_ (n=suguru@p29ee77.kyotac00.ap.so-net.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.07 | *** join/#debian krusaf (i=krusaf@gar31-2-82-224-211-110.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.07 | *** join/#debian zophyx (n=Emile@pdpc/supporter/student/zophyx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.08 | *** join/#debian Wyzard (n=mike@71.225.65.55) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.08 | *** join/#debian Mash (i=Mash@irc.kuja.in) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.10 | *** join/#debian Sadus_ (n=Sadus@82.116.147.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.10 | *** join/#debian lop (n=lop@S010600055d233ab7.gv.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.10 | *** join/#debian grelli (n=grelli@apoc.dagr.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.10 | *** join/#debian justin420 (n=justin@24-117-106-15.cpe.cableone.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.10 | *** join/#debian pngwn (i=pngwn@2001:5c0:8fff:ffff:8000:0:cda7:6106) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.11 | *** join/#debian taka_ (n=taka@ZK118165.ppp.dion.ne.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.11 | *** join/#debian xtr-II (n=01928375@S01060012174cc0e1.vf.shawcable.net) |
| 13:30.11 | *** join/#debian aardvarq (i=tgAardva@student478.student.nau.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.11 | *** join/#debian dserban_ (n=dserban@S010600112f0adac6.ok.shawcable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.11 | *** join/#debian Snow-Man (n=sfrost@snowman.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.12 | *** join/#debian DosBubba (i=dosbubba@dosbubba.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.12 | *** join/#debian bobesponja (i=pat@bas75-1-81-57-4-105.fbx.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.12 | *** join/#debian anibal (n=ams@debian/developer/anibal) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.13 | *** join/#debian ggeecko (n=ggeecko@adsl-065-012-183-078.sip.asm.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.13 | *** join/#debian k-dog (n=karsten@207.47.36.146) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.13 | *** join/#debian Cueball (n=lee@lb3.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.14 | *** join/#debian mp40 (i=mp40@project-starline.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.15 | *** join/#debian Shorty` (n=shorty@persephone.trancelab.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.15 | *** join/#debian nsc (i=nsc@silenceisdefeat.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.15 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (n=enkrypt@openwire.metawire.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.16 | *** join/#debian guitoune (n=guitoune@abu.iroqwa.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.16 | *** join/#debian Kerr (i=kerr@user-117-194-151-83.e7even.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.16 | *** join/#debian ravenbird (i=ravenbir@unaffiliated/simonrvn/bot/ravenbird) |
| 13:30.17 | *** join/#debian sanoj (n=jonas@83.133.64.38) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.17 | *** join/#debian madclicker (n=madclick@secondary.pssnet.com) |
| 13:30.17 | *** join/#debian phreak (n=phreak@pippa.rsn.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.18 | *** join/#debian dj_ryan (i=ryan@dsl231-054-113.sea1.dsl.speakeasy.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.18 | *** join/#debian blahdebla1 (n=paulgear@203-206-29-78.dyn.iinet.net.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.18 | *** join/#debian sander (i=sander@062016187142.customer.alfanett.no) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.18 | *** join/#debian XTR (n=xtr@staff-nat.netnation.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.19 | *** join/#debian nextime (n=nextime@213-140-6-96.ip.fastwebnet.it) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.19 | *** join/#debian dmc (i=dmc@angel.joroinen.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.19 | *** join/#debian zumbi___ (n=Hector@morgoth.tlc.upv.es) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.19 | *** join/#debian AtnNn (i=atnnn@epenis.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.19 | *** join/#debian TheCount (n=count@flatline.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.20 | *** join/#debian JViz` (i=Anomaly@adsl-065-013-131-023.sip.int.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.21 | *** join/#debian leumaS (i=samuel@c-beefe255.014-74-6b697210.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.21 | *** join/#debian Kvant (i=hh@h26n9c1o848.bredband.skanova.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.21 | *** join/#debian LSorense (i=lsorense@els.tor.istop.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian bvs (i=dpkg@83.233.117.46) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian enveezee (n=nvz@c-24-3-200-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian acidrainy (i=mike@paranoidgeek.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian [machine] (n=timb@bulgaria.public-internet.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.22 | *** join/#debian bbrazil (n=bbrazil@matrix.netsoc.tcd.ie) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian vipe (n=vipe@lugwv/member/vipe) |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian Ronin (n=jason@CPE00609784918f-CM00080d77ee84.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian xelam (n=aejm@raptor.ukc.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian Douwd (i=daniel@unaffiliated/douwd) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.23 | *** join/#debian sandman (n=s@CPE-67-48-250-132.new.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.24 | *** join/#debian HolyGoat (i=leendert@cc82732-a.zwoll1.ov.home.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.25 | *** join/#debian ove (i=speed@flatface.debian.nu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.26 | *** join/#debian eye69 (i=magnus@upcore.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.26 | *** join/#debian shisa_Zzz (n=shisa@r118048.ppp.asahi-net.or.jp) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#debian zinx (n=zinx@unaffiliated/zinx) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#debian rj-away_ (n=booto@rawmode.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#debian Maliuta (n=nikolai@203.194.20.86) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.27 | *** join/#debian Oddi (n=j3sus@adsl-068-209-127-004.sip.sav.bellsouth.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian Guerin (n=magpie@60.197.208.47) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian timo (i=timo@c604.w2.ton.tut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian zOrK (i=eclipse@200.90.189.58) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian tix64 (n=bob@tix64.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian sassytomato (n=etch@modemcable217.206-82-70.mc.videotron.ca) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.28 | *** join/#debian erxz_paste (i=buu@ded430-deb-175-30.netsonic.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian kingsley (n=kingsley@dsl-47-142.nas.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian jazzmanss (n=jazzmans@ip24-253-96-67.lv.lv.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian TCW (n=TCW@unixkiste.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian raz0rsedge (n=raz0r@u16-119.dsl.vianetworks.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.30 | *** join/#debian ska (n=ska@ipdska.ipd.bth.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.31 | *** join/#debian ramanujan (i=orca@bbhatt.student.Princeton.EDU) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.31 | *** join/#debian davi (i=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.31 | *** join/#debian xsdg (i=xsdg@freenode/staff/xsdg) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.31 | *** join/#debian snail (i=syeates@oucs-yeates.oucs.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian row (i=row@a.small.terrorist.force.br0ke.me.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian ryushe (n=ryushe@217.148.89.124) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian BasL (n=nnnnnnnn@tuxmachine.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian Fleck (n=NoThing@2001:618:400:e44c:211:11ff:febc:4fc1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.32 | *** join/#debian dub6 (n=dub@2002:cb60:9f83:0:0:0:0:1) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.33 | *** join/#debian Sunblade (n=Toshio@194.109.229.13) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.35 | *** join/#debian psycodad (n=obiwan@2001:4060:4419:b1:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.36 | *** join/#debian port7 (n=Bob@80.68.89.161) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.36 | *** join/#debian EdibleText (n=EdibleTe@h-66-166-193-50.nycmny83.covad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.36 | *** join/#debian happy_broccoli (n=albo@205.196.208.21) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.36 | *** join/#debian pusling (i=pusling@195.215.29.124) |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian Trewas (i=ilonen@rauta.lnet.lut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian xzu (n=otto@brucester.a20.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian Myon (i=cb@meitner.df7cb.de) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian MM2 (n=moversti@www.edu.haapavesi.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.37 | *** join/#debian Knorrie (n=knorrie@2001:888:10:a1d:0:0:0:2) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian SuperSox (n=paranoid@85.13.255.234) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian scoopex (n=scoopex@256bit.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian JohnnyST (n=JohnnyST@av8.netikka.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian SaneEnglishMonk (n=michael@r163.worc.ox.ac.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.38 | *** join/#debian jamuraa (n=jamuraa@base0.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian lee (i=lee@i.loathe.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian vorsprung (n=vorsprun@host83-217-165-95.dsl.vispa.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian Ferret (i=worc1588@gentoo/user/ferret) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian jieter (n=jieter@jieter.ocp-s.tudelft.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian Piggy (i=piggy@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.39 | *** join/#debian sussudio (i=suss@unaffiliated/sussudio) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian Wanderer (i=nomad@ipv6.rdlg.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian jan_ (n=jan@d51A4A401.access.telenet.be) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian jbroome (n=jbroome@63-168-10-93.celito.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian Yopyop (i=plop@83.173.67.7) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian b0xy (n=b0xy@65.255.135.160) |
| 13:30.40 | *** join/#debian mutante (i=mutante@s23.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.41 | *** join/#debian Maulkin (i=maulkin@debian/developer/neilm) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.41 | *** join/#debian johns^ (n=john@decande.xs4all.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.41 | *** join/#debian ozatomic (n=ozatomic@adsl-130-75.swiftdsl.com.au) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.41 | *** join/#debian Gathond (n=gathond@62.79.1.95.adsl.abc.tiscali.dk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.41 | *** join/#debian ApEtc (i=apetc@ip68-3-225-51.ph.ph.cox.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.42 | *** join/#debian peterS (i=~m|ptrS|@ppp-67-64-27-197.dsl.wchtks.swbell.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.42 | *** join/#debian remedy (n=remedy@81-178-240-182.dsl.pipex.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.42 | *** join/#debian baegle (n=beagle@pcp0010618641pcs.norstn01.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.42 | *** join/#debian resiak (n=will@unaffiliated/resiak) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.42 | *** join/#debian BLarg (n=ic382@c-67-165-66-251.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian mad_ogre (n=mad_ogre@subdimension.org) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian Rydekull (i=rydekull@luda/rydekull) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian Bigfrans (n=vef@bofh.ti.thrijswijk.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian Shadur (i=shadur@marduk.systemec.nl) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian malex (n=malex@mrb319.cvmbs.colostate.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.43 | *** join/#debian dio (i=anders@ua-83-227-134-75.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian carraca (n=carracaa@237.Red-81-33-200.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian hramrach (n=hramrach@uvt316-2.ruk.cuni.cz) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian Tolimar (i=schmehl@2001:7b8:385:0:0:0:0:20) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian CompWizrd (i=compwiz@d57-66-114.home.cgocable.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian siezer (i=siezer@rrcs-24-106-153-156.central.biz.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.44 | *** join/#debian cqst (n=unix@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-151-249.adsl.proxad.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian Dibbler (n=Dibbler@zidane.pi-net.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian jannic (n=jan@mail2.gondor.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian xdr (n=xdr@c83-248-54-61.bredband.comhem.se) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian wazzles (i=wazzles@fdt57.eastnet.gatech.edu) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian rox (n=rox@tm.213.143.79.69.dc.telemach.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.45 | *** join/#debian asuffield (n=asuffiel@213-162-123-241.neilsu458.adsl.metronet.co.uk) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian sts (n=lost+fou@62.75.156.138) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian deepspace (n=darkmatt@pcp0011031277pcs.pimaco01.az.comcast.net) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian Wille88 (i=wille@h.edu.ms) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian [Cadet] (n=david@cpe-66-25-190-248.austin.res.rr.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.46 | *** join/#debian tazle (n=tazle@ddr.tky.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.47 | *** join/#debian Freak (n=freak@83.151.30.172) |
| 13:30.47 | *** join/#debian davrieb (n=davrieb@c-219.dsl.tu-graz.ac.at) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.47 | *** join/#debian zarkdav (n=zarkdav@eddy.easynet.fr) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.47 | *** join/#debian ssb (n=ssb@bastard.wormhole.ru) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.47 | *** join/#debian RinzeWind (n=chema@213.37.210.43) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.48 | *** join/#debian loxley_ (n=johan@u.cant.hack.mysecurityserver.com) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.48 | *** join/#debian newcup (n=jnykopp@kekkonen.cs.hut.fi) [NETSPLIT VICTIM] |
| 13:30.48 | *** join/#debian anhi (i=anhi@217.71.110.129) |
| 13:30.54 | jm_ | get a decent IRC client |
| 13:30.54 | RaRe | lol |
| 13:30.55 | *** join/#debian wang (n=mike@209.112.88.102) |
| 13:30.55 | wang | where are file association rules kept/modified, like for example mp3's are opened with totem on this box, I want to switch the responsible program to beep media player |
| 13:30.57 | *** join/#debian murti (n=10338AF9@85.100.102.71) |
| 13:30.57 | jm_ | mailcap |
| 13:30.57 | *** join/#debian loca|host (n=loca|fre@200.162.51.16) |
| 13:30.58 | *** join/#debian neo` (n=user@219.131.246.201) |
| 13:30.59 | *** part/#debian newtoirc (n=chatzill@82.18.249.55) |
| 13:31.00 | *** join/#debian Deo[X]iDe (i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.185) |
| 13:31.01 | Deo[X]iDe | #KillerZ |
| 13:31.01 | *** part/#debian Deo[X]iDe (i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.185) |
| 13:31.01 | *** join/#debian ndondek (n=ndondek@61.102.77.180) |
| 13:31.01 | *** join/#debian Deo[X]iDe (i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.185) |
| 13:31.02 | Deo[X]iDe | lalala |
| 13:31.02 | Ronin | !ops Deo[X]iDe is spamming thier lame channel |
| 13:31.02 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Deo[X]iDe is spamming thier lame channel |
| 13:31.02 | *** join/#debian scarynetworkguy (n=sng@c-24-22-88-165.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 13:31.03 | Deo[X]iDe | Ronin please op me |
| 13:31.03 | Ronin | so who wants to build xp machines this week for me? |
| 13:31.03 | Deo[X]iDe | touch !op Deo[X]iDe |
| 13:31.03 | Deo[X]iDe | Ronin /Server -M Irc.Clan-KillerZ.Net |
| 13:31.03 | *** join/#debian asperon-work (n=Miranda@hushag-erikslund.borlange.se) |
| 13:31.04 | RichiH | Deo[X]iDe: please stop |
| 13:31.04 | *** join/#debian caravena (n=caravena@200.72.196.39) |
| 13:31.04 | Deo[X]iDe | RichiH op me |
| 13:31.04 | Deo[X]iDe | !op Deo[X]iDe |
| 13:31.05 | asperon-work | hi guys, i am trying to get mpg321 to run under the www-data user, but i keep getting "Can't find a suitable libao driver. (Is device in use?)", it runs fine under root, so i guess its a permssion issue, what do i need to do? |
| 13:31.05 | RichiH | Deo[X]iDe: last warning |
| 13:31.05 | Deo[X]iDe | LOL |
| 13:31.06 | Deo[X]iDe | t'es con ? |
| 13:31.06 | Deo[X]iDe | nique ta mere espece de pédé |
| 13:31.06 | Ronin | Deo[X]iDe: you think that command would actually work? |
| 13:31.06 | Deo[X]iDe | ta race |
| 13:31.07 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*i=RaTMX5@84.7.15.*] by RichiH |
| 13:31.07 | *** kick/#debian [Deo[X]iDe!i=richih@freenode/staff/richih] by RichiH (RichiH) |
| 13:31.07 | Sunblade | Ronin: "think" ? Come on ;) |
| 13:31.07 | Ronin | Sunblade: good point |
| 13:31.07 | jm_ | asperon-work: /msg dpkg audio |
| 13:31.09 | Sunblade | hmm if somebody spams here they first get a warning ? :) |
| 13:31.09 | *** join/#debian cmdKeen (n=yac@ova-84-242-95-93.nat.karneval.cz) |
| 13:31.09 | *** part/#debian asultanpur (n=user@61.95.201.131) |
| 13:31.15 | *** join/#debian coywolf (i=coywolf@everest.sosdg.org) |
| 13:31.15 | coywolf | i keep getting this? any way to help? |
| 13:31.15 | coywolf | alsa-play: xrun of at least 0.006 msecs. resetting stream |
| 13:31.59 | *** join/#debian liable (n=liable@pdpc/supporter/active/liable) |
| 13:32.20 | ircdevil | !belilo |
| 13:33.59 | asg | !be ed |
| 13:34.00 | *** join/#debian agney-home (n=agney@200.223.215.150) |
| 13:34.00 | dpkg | ? |
| 13:34.02 | cmdKeen | I set default monitor frequency 60 (or whatever) and in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and's always 59 at 1024x768. How can I change this ? |
| 13:34.14 | *** join/#debian Valandil (n=chrys@dslb-084-056-111-034.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 13:34.29 | cmdKeen | s/and in/in/ |
| 13:34.34 | *** join/#debian calmar_ (i=calmar@84-73-240-158.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 13:34.39 | jm_ | cmdKeen: how do you know it's 59? and what did you set to 60 - horizontal or vertical frequency? |
| 13:35.16 | *** join/#debian Fawzib (n=chatzill@local-196-42-6-13.coqui.net) |
| 13:36.03 | *** join/#debian zeeble (n=zeeble@unaffiliated/zeeble) |
| 13:36.49 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5E36D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 13:36.51 | cmdKeen | jm_, monitor's menu says so and It surely is because mny LCD is weird in other than 60 and 72 Hz so I can see it myself.. |
| 13:36.55 | Fawzib | anyone know where to get debian samba packages with the idmap_rid shared library compiled in? also java 1.5 packages? |
| 13:37.15 | jm_ | cmdKeen: did you check its logfile to see what it says about it? |
| 13:37.28 | jm_ | Debian doesn't package java - /msg dpkg java |
| 13:37.33 | cmdKeen | /var/log/whatfile ? |
| 13:37.40 | jm_ | /msg dpkg x logfile |
| 13:37.41 | *** part/#debian Momow (n=momo@elvire.enst.fr) |
| 13:37.42 | azeem | jm_: not Sun's implementation at least |
| 13:37.57 | jm_ | azeem: ohh forgot about free implementations |
| 13:38.00 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 13:38.12 | Fawzib | i know it doesn't :) i was asking if anyone knew of a repository that did |
| 13:38.21 | jm_ | ask dpkg how to package it |
| 13:38.30 | FRIpolz | Fawzib: just use java-package |
| 13:38.52 | *** join/#debian j0k3r (n=rddalcen@201-13-125-82.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 13:39.03 | FRIpolz | hmm.. I'm surprised java-package doesn't ask you whether it should download java for you .. you know, like flashplugin-nonfree |
| 13:40.01 | *** join/#debian Exerd (n=jack@host-112.osby.se) |
| 13:40.15 | JohnnyST | hi I have made an Custom 2.6.13.4 deb package how do I create what is needed to put it on an http server so that clients can apt-get it from there? |
| 13:40.17 | *** join/#debian bow (n=bow@58.212.22.177) |
| 13:40.28 | Fawzib | yeah, i know about java package, i just wanted a repository to add to keep things automated and simple, like everything else :( |
| 13:40.43 | jm_ | JohnnyST: there are many howtos for creating custom Debian repositories, find one and read it |
| 13:40.51 | JohnnyST | ok |
| 13:41.06 | Fawzib | there is one (is for ubuntu though) but it's not working |
| 13:42.16 | FRIpolz | JohnnyST: try http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/286 |
| 13:42.18 | *** join/#debian Elly (i=elly@ool-457856bb.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 13:42.36 | jm_ | yeah it's also on d-a site |
| 13:42.42 | cmdKeen | jm_, there doesn't seems to be error. by the way other graphic card worked properly so it's not monitor's error and it 800x600 72Hz works fine. Can I try changing resolution on the fly ? |
| 13:42.59 | coywolf | I get 'alsa-play: xrun of at least xxx.xx msecs. resetting stream' witch is no fun at all. |
| 13:43.07 | tarzeau | does someone server 4gb files (or debian dvd images) with apache 1.x? |
| 13:43.08 | cmdKeen | cmdKeen, I meant VertRefresh |
| 13:43.18 | *** join/#debian Marxist (n=richard@pool-68-161-221-244.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 13:43.18 | cmdKeen | jm_, I meant VertRefresh |
| 13:43.26 | jm_ | cmdKeen: sure, ctrl-alt-<numpad + or -> or xrandr, alternatively, you can create a custom modeline |
| 13:43.33 | *** join/#debian VivekVC (n=user@unaffiliated/VivekVC) |
| 13:43.47 | jm_ | cmdKeen: I wasn't looking for an error, more what it says about modes |
| 13:43.48 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@p54B99EF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:45.37 | tarzeau | i'm not really happy with this, but i wonder what others do: |
| 13:45.43 | tarzeau | http://debian.ethz.ch/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/iso-dvd/ |
| 13:46.01 | tarzeau | the thing is we have a good reason to stay with 1.x, since the mods we need are not available for 2.x |
| 13:46.19 | Laibsch | After updating my testing installation yesterday, my German keyboard is not working anymore. I think I get a US layout or something. Trying to set it back with "$ setxkbmap de" results in "Error loading new keyboard description". xorg.conf has an entry for a German keyboard. How do I get back my Umlauts? |
| 13:46.22 | jm_ | tarzeau: are you sure it's apache that's the problem? |
| 13:46.54 | *** join/#debian freenik (i=nik@port-212-202-168-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:47.10 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@coruja.paranacidade.org.br) |
| 13:47.36 | tarzeau | jm_: if you ask that way. you tell me. i use thttpd :) |
| 13:47.36 | cmdKeen | jm_, I'll take a look.. xrandr says current refresh is 60, although i set it to 70 and it really IS 59:) where can be default mode found ? afaik it's not in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 13:47.37 | *** join/#debian bibosz (n=bibosz@dyw76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:48.00 | jm_ | tarzeau: nerver used it for such big files |
| 13:48.11 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) |
| 13:48.30 | *** part/#debian bibosz (n=bibosz@dyw76.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:48.32 | jm_ | cmdKeen: X server has lots of predefined modes, you can find details about which ones it discards and which ones it considers in the logfile |
| 13:48.52 | *** join/#debian gothtec (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-12336.bb.online.no) |
| 13:49.17 | *** join/#debian grumpydog (n=grumpydo@freematrix/staff/grumpydog) |
| 13:50.08 | *** mode/#debian [+l 779] by debhelper |
| 13:50.19 | *** join/#debian mkl1525 (n=daniel@82.100.204.245) |
| 13:50.46 | *** part/#debian vipe (n=vipe@lugwv/member/vipe) |
| 13:51.03 | *** join/#debian jor (n=jor@2002:8259:e127:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 13:52.46 | l3m | i need to generate one giant jpg out of many small ones... any ideas what program does this best? |
| 13:53.43 | saloxin | l3m: imagemagick -> montage |
| 13:53.45 | cmdKeen | jm_ as I play with xrandr, only alowed value is 60 (wich ends in real 59). Well and log says only 1024x768 mode is at 60Hz. It would be fine if it'd really be those 60... well, i guess I can't do anything with that, that card is crap. Thanks anyway! |
| 13:53.55 | *** join/#debian CruX1 (n=CruX@soueza.utc.sk) |
| 13:53.56 | l3m | saloxin: thanks |
| 13:54.13 | CruX1 | hi, is any linux program for flashing biose ? |
| 13:54.28 | jm_ | montage, and then there's another app for creating this from that Netscape feller |
| 13:54.43 | jm_ | cmdKeen: what card is it? |
| 13:55.00 | *** join/#debian xz (n=holy@user68.hades.centurynet.ro) |
| 13:55.11 | *** join/#debian MadSpeedy (n=madspeed@212.58.160.39) |
| 13:55.12 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.59.56) |
| 13:55.15 | tarzeau | l3m: netpbm ? |
| 13:55.57 | *** join/#debian cbr (n=cbr@213-35-221-23-dsl.jhv.estpak.ee) |
| 13:56.06 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:56.07 | cmdKeen | jm_ some old MGA. It's emergency machine, an capacitator jumped out of my normal PC's MB so I am doomd now:) |
| 13:56.18 | jm_ | hmm his name eludes mi right now, Zaminsky or somesuch |
| 13:56.28 | jm_ | cmdKeen: ahh |
| 13:56.59 | *** part/#debian CruX1 (n=CruX@soueza.utc.sk) |
| 13:57.15 | *** join/#debian andy_br (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 13:57.33 | *** join/#debian faked (n=faked@83-65-239-153.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 13:58.34 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 13:59.27 | *** part/#debian GyrosGeier (n=richtesi@port-212-202-73-180.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 13:59.41 | Coke | *ehum* what is the name of the current testing dist? |
| 13:59.43 | l3m | tarzeau: thanks |
| 13:59.59 | jm_ | !release names |
| 13:59.59 | dpkg | Debian releases have always been named after characters from the movie "Toy Story". Buzz(1.1; 1996-03-14), Rex(1.2; 1996-10-28), Bo(1.3; 1997-05-01), Hamm(2.0; 1998-07-24), Slink(2.1; 1999-08-28), Potato(2.2; 2001-04-17[?]), Woody(3.0; 2002-07-19), Sarge(3.1; 2005-06-06). The next release will be Etch. See also <http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives.html>. |
| 14:00.08 | *** join/#debian notPonch[a] (n=poncha@appcel.bb.netvision.net.il) |
| 14:00.30 | *** join/#debian din (n=din@24.144.40.40) |
| 14:01.05 | *** join/#debian zerve_the_death (n=esu1@82-35-240-35.cable.ubr04.hari.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 14:01.06 | *** join/#debian andy_br (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 14:01.18 | *** join/#debian omry|work (n=omry@80.74.111.178) |
| 14:01.38 | *** join/#debian lunaphyte_ (n=lunaphye@24-247-60-194.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 14:02.10 | Phated | Coke: etch. |
| 14:04.18 | *** join/#debian Eghie_Work (n=Eghie@ip51cffcc4.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 14:04.36 | *** join/#debian jesus_ (n=jesus@thesdsl-03328.otenet.gr) |
| 14:04.41 | *** part/#debian coywolf (i=coywolf@everest.sosdg.org) |
| 14:04.51 | *** part/#debian Fawzib (n=chatzill@local-196-42-6-13.coqui.net) |
| 14:06.15 | Ae|-_GoD | Well, when am trying to configure my system for kernel compile, I got this error: http://pastebin.ca/27986 (vanilla sources) |
| 14:06.29 | Ae|-_GoD | any idas? thank you in advance |
| 14:06.36 | *** join/#debian nlight (i=nlight@80.72.91.68) |
| 14:06.49 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) |
| 14:07.10 | *** join/#debian andy_ (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 14:07.10 | jm_ | are you sure your kernel sources are in /usr/src/linux? |
| 14:07.18 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, yeap |
| 14:07.43 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: is this 2.6 or 2.4? |
| 14:08.03 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, malibu:/usr/src/linux-2.6.14 |
| 14:08.09 | Ae|-_GoD | the same message, here |
| 14:08.15 | *** part/#debian andy_ (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 14:08.18 | Ae|-_GoD | I have made the link, to /usr/src/linux |
| 14:09.10 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman) |
| 14:09.34 | *** join/#debian andy_ (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 14:09.41 | jm_ | that looks strange, I have 2.6.14.3 here and it works fine |
| 14:09.59 | ircdevil | wtf is this? "sunday, bloody sunday" on the radio, starring george bush? |
| 14:10.27 | *** join/#debian flymeteor (n=flymeteo@218.12.224.246) |
| 14:11.01 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, gimme the link u've downloaded it |
| 14:11.15 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: from kernel.org mirror |
| 14:11.39 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 14:11.44 | *** join/#debian osacix (n=osacix@200-158-24-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 14:11.59 | abrotman | omg .. wherez can i gets p0stgr3sq1 8.1 ? |
| 14:12.11 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: maybe use make -n to see what it would do |
| 14:12.21 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, ok |
| 14:12.22 | dusk | omg |
| 14:12.26 | *** part/#debian osacix (n=osacix@200-158-24-12.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 14:12.36 | *** join/#debian DesScorp (n=DesScorp@66-191-154-4.dhcp.mtgm.al.charter.com) |
| 14:12.55 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, the same error again, anyway |
| 14:13.05 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: with make -n? |
| 14:13.12 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, yeap |
| 14:13.24 | abrotman | eegads .. that's the most annoying nick i've seen in a while :) |
| 14:13.26 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: wtf |
| 14:13.32 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, :s |
| 14:13.49 | jm_ | Ae|-_GoD: remove it and unpack it again |
| 14:14.08 | jm_ | or maybe use mrproper target |
| 14:14.27 | Ae|-_GoD | we shall see :) |
| 14:14.53 | jm_ | wait I lied, I only have .13.4 ;) |
| 14:15.17 | Ae|-_GoD | :) |
| 14:15.26 | abrotman | i don't think 2.6 has mrproper anymore .. does it ? |
| 14:15.37 | jm_ | it does |
| 14:15.45 | abrotman | i thought it was deprecated |
| 14:15.49 | *** join/#debian smacnay (n=smacnay@Toronto-HSE-ppp3907234.sympatico.ca) |
| 14:15.56 | jm_ | well you shouldn't need it, that's true |
| 14:15.57 | *** join/#debian Nick_Hill (n=Nick@213.152.57.82) |
| 14:16.10 | nomar | removing hotplug has solved my problems |
| 14:16.31 | yang_ | when editing iptables i get error : No Chain target match by that name |
| 14:16.41 | jm_ | yang_: isn't it obvious? |
| 14:17.01 | *** join/#debian |dennis| (i=dennis@200.32.215.84) |
| 14:17.21 | *** join/#debian benny (n=benny@APoitiers-110-1-3-156.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:17.34 | abrotman | hides too |
| 14:17.46 | abrotman | |dennis|: get your evil/bad kernel figured out ? |
| 14:17.54 | yang_ | it happens when i type iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j SNAT --to 212.18.59.124 |
| 14:17.58 | *** join/#debian xoz (n=xoz@unaffiliated/xoz) |
| 14:18.00 | *** part/#debian nomar (n=sisltr@zaphod.insrv.cf.ac.uk) |
| 14:18.05 | abrotman | yang_: #iptables |
| 14:18.11 | jm_ | do you have support for that in your kernel? |
| 14:18.13 | *** join/#debian stonie (n=hans@d011010.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 14:18.36 | stonie | hi.. isist possible to create a .config file from a running kernel? .. if so, how? |
| 14:19.08 | jm_ | stonie: ls /boot; ls /proc/config* |
| 14:19.21 | TheCount | stonie: if it's compile in, /proc/config or /proc/config.gz - if not, nope. |
| 14:19.41 | TheCount | stonie: a copy of the .config used at build time might lie in /boot/config-(whatever) |
| 14:20.01 | TheCount | stonie: most likely /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 14:20.20 | Laibsch | After updating my testing installation yesterday, my German keyboard is not working anymore. I think I get a US layout or something. Trying to set it back with "$ setxkbmap de" results in "Error loading new keyboard description". xorg.conf has an entry for a German keyboard. How do I get back my Umlauts? |
| 14:22.27 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 14:23.23 | *** join/#debian stewpid (i=strange@father.mirkwar.nu) |
| 14:23.31 | xoz | Laibsch: can you try other layout like jp and check if you encounter the same error message? |
| 14:23.42 | stewpid | my debian box wont boot i think the bootrecord is fucked, how would i go about fixing it |
| 14:23.44 | stewpid | without losing data? |
| 14:23.46 | *** join/#debian omry|work (n=omry@80.74.111.178) |
| 14:23.48 | stewpid | it crashed :x |
| 14:24.08 | xoz | stewpid: explain more |
| 14:24.15 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) |
| 14:24.19 | Laibsch | xoz: I already tried us. Same problem. Will try jp and see what it gives. |
| 14:24.26 | stewpid | the box didnt manually reboot, so i hard shutdown |
| 14:24.30 | stewpid | when i turned it on again it wouldnt boot |
| 14:24.31 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 14:24.37 | stewpid | i think the mbr is gone |
| 14:24.40 | *** join/#debian benny (n=benny@APoitiers-110-1-3-156.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:24.45 | jm_ | reinstall the boot laoder |
| 14:24.51 | xoz | stewpid: what is really the message in the screen. |
| 14:25.00 | Laibsch | xoz: It's the same everywhere. |
| 14:25.04 | *** join/#debian theD3viL (n=geek@BSN-77-90-27.dsl.siol.net) |
| 14:25.05 | *** part/#debian benny (n=benny@APoitiers-110-1-3-156.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:25.09 | stewpid | it just hangs at the point where it used to start linux |
| 14:25.33 | stewpid | can i reinstall grub without it touching my partitions? |
| 14:26.02 | jm_ | sure |
| 14:26.13 | stewpid | any url on how-to ? |
| 14:26.35 | xoz | Laibsch: check /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xkb ... find . -name "de" |
| 14:26.37 | jm_ | !tell stewpid -about fixmbr |
| 14:27.24 | *** join/#debian pusakat (i=proxy@203.167.88.65) |
| 14:27.26 | *** join/#debian fken (n=fken@48.112.119-80.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 14:27.31 | fken | hello |
| 14:27.33 | stewpid | thanks |
| 14:27.49 | *** join/#debian thehit (n=thehit@77.Red-83-41-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:28.00 | stonie | its a pre compiled kernel image |
| 14:28.25 | jm_ | stonie: so enable CONFIG_IKCONFIG in it next time |
| 14:28.34 | jm_ | as in Debian image? that has it in /boot |
| 14:28.47 | stonie | thx ill look |
| 14:29.17 | stewpid | i cant start sshd from debian boot cd can i? |
| 14:29.30 | stonie | sweeto thx |
| 14:29.34 | jm_ | nope, I highly doubt sshd is included on it |
| 14:29.44 | *** join/#debian OleMoudi (n=TK422@215.Red-83-46-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:30.14 | *** join/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 14:30.14 | *** join/#debian Bulldog (n=Bulldog@011.254.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 14:30.51 | *** join/#debian jegc (i=jegc@201.244.249.73) |
| 14:31.36 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=jaan@82.183.196.76) |
| 14:31.37 | *** join/#debian Firestarter2 (n=Firestar@66.209.15.235) |
| 14:32.49 | Firestarter2 | is there anyone here that knows anything about ftape that can help me with a compile error if I paste in flood? |
| 14:32.51 | *** join/#debian AzMoo (n=matt@unaffiliated/azmoo) |
| 14:33.02 | *** join/#debian N0S3 (n=Admin@host239.201-252-220.telecom.net.ar) |
| 14:33.42 | *** join/#debian matsche (n=matzeh@CI3030-24-159.vpn.uni-hohenheim.de) |
| 14:33.49 | *** join/#debian jah (n=ah@AStDenis-105-1-18-207.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:33.53 | *** part/#debian matsche (n=matzeh@CI3030-24-159.vpn.uni-hohenheim.de) |
| 14:35.01 | Laibsch | xoz: http://rafb.net/paste/results/AoU0bd57.html |
| 14:35.08 | *** join/#debian superlinux (n=superlin@194.126.143.136) |
| 14:35.24 | superlinux | how can i let a user shutdown his linux mechine from its xterm? |
| 14:35.25 | |dennis| | abrotman: yes thanks...look like its not the cpu. was the evil 2.6 smp. 2.4 smp works fine. must have gotten corrupted or cracked. still going thru tons of log files to see if i can find out how it got corrupted. thanks a million for your help. :) |
| 14:35.47 | abrotman | |dennis|: ah ok .. also .. you could try the --reinstall option of apt-get |
| 14:36.06 | superlinux | how can i let a user shutdown his linux mechine from its xterm? |
| 14:36.22 | |dennis| | abrotmanL: was thinking of that next. was also wondering if there was a way to compare the actual installed kernel with a new install... |
| 14:37.31 | *** join/#debian smartbhai (n=smartbha@202.83.41.60) |
| 14:37.42 | abrotman | |dennis|: debsums .. |
| 14:37.53 | *** join/#debian imex (n=imex@CPE000f3d5a9e97-CM0011aea115e6.cpe.net.cable.rogers.com) |
| 14:37.53 | Ae|-_GoD | jm_, the same error again and again |
| 14:38.00 | *** part/#debian smartbhai (n=smartbha@202.83.41.60) |
| 14:38.06 | *** join/#debian tabris|away (n=northman@24-247-102-174.dhcp.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 14:38.12 | imex | hiya everyone |
| 14:38.18 | |dennis| | abrotman: tried debsums..no errors...so dunno...wasm wondering if there was another way :) |
| 14:38.26 | imex | i finally reinstall the box |
| 14:38.30 | abrotman | |dennis|: manually i suppose |
| 14:38.34 | xoz | Laibsch: seems to be ok. i have same output |
| 14:38.34 | enveezee | it sure is nice my buddy got a real cell phone plan now.. he used to be all shitty when you would call him because he was paying too much for prepay |
| 14:38.52 | *** join/#debian phaedrus_ (n=phaedrus@cpe-72-224-172-58.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 14:38.54 | |dennis| | abrotman: yeah i guess...but anyways...thanks abunch... ;) |
| 14:39.01 | abrotman | np |
| 14:39.02 | imex | how to view the network with kde? |
| 14:39.20 | enveezee | now I can actually talk to him like we've known each other all our lives, instead of like I am calling to get donations for the FOP |
| 14:39.21 | *** join/#debian grimse (n=grimse@p5481E912.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 14:39.37 | imex | anyone? |
| 14:40.25 | Laibsch | xoz: Thanks for checking. |
| 14:40.25 | imex | this is actually the first time in 6 years i finally installed a Linux box with X working |
| 14:40.34 | Laibsch | Why is my keyboard setting borked, then? |
| 14:40.43 | *** join/#debian zimnyx (n=xxx@pc199.ist.agh.edu.pl) |
| 14:40.47 | imex | this is so great but Windoze got me used to doing things |
| 14:40.48 | enveezee | wtf!! |
| 14:40.59 | xoz | Laibsch: what kernel? |
| 14:41.16 | imex | i m using 2.6 |
| 14:41.18 | xoz | Laibsch: compiled it yourself? |
| 14:41.22 | enveezee | this pc is pissing me off, first I lost connection to the bridge and figured out my net cable slipped.. now I am back on, and its giving me shit trying to goto google |
| 14:41.33 | zimnyx | Do you know how to replace libapache-mod-ssl SnakeOil's ssl certicifate? |
| 14:41.34 | enveezee | ah, wtf! |
| 14:41.40 | enveezee | no websites are working |
| 14:41.41 | superlinux | hello |
| 14:41.55 | ircdevil | enveezee: nslookup ? |
| 14:41.58 | enveezee | I am getting connection refused everywhere I go |
| 14:42.12 | ircdevil | enveezee: check name server! |
| 14:42.15 | Ronin | enveezee: can you ping them? and ping by ip as well |
| 14:42.15 | *** join/#debian nulltank (n=nullman@c-66-41-214-247.hsd1.mn.comcast.net) |
| 14:42.37 | enveezee | Ronin: nope says network is unreachable |
| 14:42.44 | Ronin | and by ip as well? |
| 14:42.45 | abrotman | enveezee: your dns are busted! |
| 14:42.46 | superlinux | i am reaaly in need of |
| 14:42.49 | superlinux | help!! |
| 14:42.52 | superlinux | how can i let a user shutdown his linux mechine from its xterm? |
| 14:43.02 | abrotman | shutdown.allow |
| 14:43.03 | enveezee | abrotman: the machine in question is attached to this machine which is the bridge |
| 14:43.03 | Laibsch | xoz: 2.4.27-2-686 straight from Debian. |
| 14:43.14 | abrotman | enveezee: which machine in question ? |
| 14:43.24 | superlinux | abrotman, it wont work |
| 14:43.24 | enveezee | abrotman: nothing changed that I know of other than the cable just came unplugged between them |
| 14:43.32 | enveezee | abrotman: the machine that is not working right now |
| 14:43.34 | xoz | Laibsch: any clue from dmesg or /var/log/syslog |
| 14:43.37 | superlinux | always it say u must be root |
| 14:43.52 | *** join/#debian Geekbr (n=danilo@200.228.4.130) |
| 14:43.54 | enveezee | abrotman: I am typing on it right now, because the machine running irc doesnt have a keyboard |
| 14:44.01 | Geekbr | www.geekbr.com.br |
| 14:44.05 | superlinux | even with allow file |
| 14:44.11 | Geekbr | brasilian linux fest |
| 14:44.12 | enveezee | abrotman: so I know the network is half working at least because its sending my input to the bridge |
| 14:44.20 | Geekbr | same pics |
| 14:44.30 | stonie | do i have to recompile fcpci by any means? to use fritzcard/capi/hylafax.. thought in the 2.6.8 image everything works |
| 14:45.18 | enveezee | there we go.. working now.. the default gateway was take out of the route for some reason |
| 14:45.23 | enveezee | *shrugs* |
| 14:45.32 | enveezee | renewing dhcp fixed it |
| 14:45.33 | imex | i had installed with 2.4 and upgrade to 2.6 with package and it all works |
| 14:45.39 | imex | cool |
| 14:45.56 | imex | now my question is how to browse my network with kde? |
| 14:46.12 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@bipt54.bi.ehu.es) |
| 14:46.35 | saloxin | what could cause snmpd to only answer sometimes on a virtual IP, while nothing else changes (no ip failover, no changes in switch' arp table etc) |
| 14:48.04 | imex | hmmm i guess my question was too dumb |
| 14:48.40 | enveezee | phew I almost hit the master power button by accident |
| 14:48.50 | enveezee | luckily if you hit it again real fast it doesnt shut off |
| 14:48.56 | *** join/#debian rinmak (n=bah@dsl-202-72-186-218.wa.westnet.com.au) |
| 14:49.00 | imex | lol |
| 14:49.01 | *** join/#debian Jacky^ (n=Jacky^@d83-176-29-193.cust.tele2.it) |
| 14:49.04 | Jacky^ | hi all |
| 14:49.12 | enveezee | I meant to hit the Monitors button to shut all my monitors off |
| 14:49.24 | Laibsch | xoz: not that I can see. the trouble I miss the pipe to grep. |
| 14:49.25 | Jacky^ | is there any bluetooth manager in Debian Unstable ? |
| 14:50.19 | Jacky^ | I tried to add deb for gnome-bluetooth manager in my sources list but cant find it using apt |
| 14:50.53 | Jacky^ | tring to compile K68 from source and I get checking for Qt... configure: error: Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found. |
| 14:50.55 | *** join/#debian TheBigfoot (i=bigfoot@p85.212.168.209.tisdip.tiscali.de) |
| 14:50.59 | Jacky^ | any idea ? |
| 14:51.07 | abrotman | Jacky^: libqt3-deb |
| 14:51.10 | abrotman | err -dev |
| 14:51.11 | *** join/#debian magnetic (n=magnetic@169.Red-217-127-113.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:51.17 | *** join/#debian Kev1 (i=kevin@AGrenoble-152-1-66-80.w83-201.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:51.18 | Jacky^ | abrotman: thanks |
| 14:51.37 | *** join/#debian yacc (n=andreas@85-124-83-115.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 14:51.56 | *** part/#debian stonie (n=hans@d011010.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 14:52.05 | imex | exit |
| 14:54.27 | flymeteor | ? |
| 14:55.15 | *** join/#debian mrj (n=mjohnson@nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com) |
| 14:55.20 | *** join/#debian Barnes (i=w00t@h133n2fls309o1036.telia.com) |
| 14:55.30 | *** part/#debian mrj (n=mjohnson@nat-pool-rdu.redhat.com) |
| 14:56.09 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 14:56.49 | *** join/#debian lovdahls (i=r3Fl3X@unaffiliated/lovdahls) |
| 14:57.55 | *** join/#debian gnetux (i=gnetux@host135-6.pool8257.interbusiness.it) |
| 14:58.06 | *** join/#debian hackeron (n=hackeron@81-178-89-147.dsl.pipex.com) |
| 14:58.10 | gnetux | hi everi body |
| 14:58.22 | *** join/#debian jsebara (n=adad@200.138.213.36) |
| 14:58.37 | *** join/#debian d7rt (n=d1rt@69.37.127.212) |
| 14:58.59 | gnetux | someone could tell me a tool to configure apt source list??? |
| 14:59.02 | *** join/#debian nashirak (n=nashirak@224.100.33.65.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 14:59.17 | stew | gnetux: apt-setup |
| 14:59.35 | *** join/#debian Acalanatha (n=Acalanat@218.18.51.8) |
| 14:59.36 | *** join/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.166.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 14:59.49 | Acalanatha | hi allllll |
| 15:00.07 | abrotman | dj_ryan: look .. it hit slashdot! |
| 15:00.12 | *** join/#debian sori (n=sori@ip93-163-173-82.adsl2.versatel.nl) |
| 15:01.02 | *** join/#debian Dalik (n=dalik@pc215-200.spk.cz) |
| 15:01.24 | stew | abrotman: did you see dsa 884? :) |
| 15:02.19 | abrotman | stew: yeah ... but it's stuipd .. did you actually read it ? |
| 15:02.26 | *** join/#debian Thanatermesis (n=Elive@unaffiliated/thanatermesis) |
| 15:02.35 | Thanatermesis | graveman can record a DVD ISO file ? |
| 15:02.44 | abrotman | stew: it's not a problem in debian .. that's the way horde works |
| 15:02.44 | Thanatermesis | i don't look for this option... |
| 15:02.53 | *** join/#debian mentorofAustria (n=d405d0@pow.dur.ac.uk) |
| 15:03.06 | abrotman | is this different than regular mentor ? |
| 15:03.21 | Acalanatha | ?? |
| 15:03.44 | stew | abrotman: yeah well now the debian package is getting better than the default horde |
| 15:03.51 | stew | abrotman: yeah i did read it, i've been mailing hte maintainer |
| 15:04.01 | Thanatermesis | ok... i have found |
| 15:04.16 | abrotman | stew: well .. i'm not sure it's truly a security flaw .. (not in the traditional sense) .. ti's just a bad default for the software |
| 15:05.06 | stew | abrotman: its definately a information leakage |
| 15:05.26 | stew | abrotman: it installed a unprotected cli web interface that had full www-data access |
| 15:05.47 | abrotman | stew: new horde requires too much work from that damn web interface |
| 15:05.56 | *** join/#debian xanatos_ (i=xanatos@148.202.28.50) |
| 15:06.04 | stew | it requires none |
| 15:06.37 | abrotman | stew: yes and no .. some of the conf files are well documented .. others use the interface to document them |
| 15:06.44 | *** join/#debian salto (n=salto@c180236.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 15:06.56 | abrotman | stew: if you know what they do .. then no .. you don't need the web interface :) |
| 15:07.02 | *** join/#debian cappuchino (i=mum@82-43-59-156.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 15:07.07 | enveezee | oh well.. I can't get hold of anyone I guess its time for bed |
| 15:07.32 | jhonny | hello |
| 15:07.32 | stew | abrotman: right |
| 15:07.32 | abrotman | liquor store@! |
| 15:07.40 | stew | !nvzdrink enveezee |
| 15:07.42 | abrotman | stew: i actually find the lack of documentation kind of disturbing |
| 15:07.49 | jhonny | how do I run idesk at startup? |
| 15:07.57 | enveezee | I dont feel like drinking |
| 15:08.06 | abrotman | stew: that said .. i haven't submitted any patches :) |
| 15:08.17 | enveezee | I usually drink my troubles away, and I don't have any |
| 15:08.31 | stew | yeah, it really needs a real README.Debian more than anything, but i just don't have time for a while |
| 15:09.00 | *** join/#debian DreamEater (n=Dave@cpc1-lutn6-3-0-cust104.lutn.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:09.26 | abrotman | stew: nah .. they need some kind of single reference for option documentation |
| 15:09.28 | *** join/#debian nterprais (n=real@30.Red-80-33-230.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:09.43 | enveezee | I had another easy day at work, playing supaplex for money. :P then I went down to the high school to vote, and seen Sasha she's ignoring me now *shrug* must be cause she's at school, she sure doesnt ignore me any other time. |
| 15:09.44 | abrotman | stew: on the website or something .. there are just too many places to fuck up |
| 15:09.44 | *** join/#debian cappuchino (i=mum@82-43-59-156.cable.ubr04.croy.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 15:10.27 | enveezee | I'm just bored and thats no reason to get drunk |
| 15:10.36 | stew | damn, thats right, i need to figure out what i'm voting for |
| 15:10.50 | abrotman | enveezee: are you kidding? ... you live in PA .. you don't even need a reason! |
| 15:10.55 | enveezee | heh |
| 15:11.07 | *** join/#debian OsRo (n=OsRo@62-15-230-131.inversas.jazztel.es) |
| 15:11.07 | abrotman | hi .. i'm from PA .. let's get drunk! |
| 15:11.39 | *** join/#debian fuso (n=bhjk@u216-2.udal.afb.lu.se) |
| 15:11.47 | stew | hi! |
| 15:12.07 | Acalanatha | ??????????????????????????????? |
| 15:12.12 | abrotman | stew: some day .. the iron hill in montgomeryville! |
| 15:12.13 | enveezee | well there was T, he's getting off early on the count of the rain.. I guess I am not going to sleep |
| 15:12.17 | abrotman | Acalanatha: *************************** |
| 15:12.30 | Acalanatha | ? |
| 15:12.34 | abrotman | * |
| 15:12.41 | theD3viL | Why firefox close when i wanna download or play something? |
| 15:12.49 | *** part/#debian Jacky^ (n=Jacky^@d83-176-29-193.cust.tele2.it) |
| 15:12.56 | *** join/#debian _xavier (n=xavier@132.203.182.95) |
| 15:12.57 | enveezee | abrotman: not all yinzers are lush |
| 15:13.22 | Acalanatha | im a newbie |
| 15:13.25 | abrotman | no .. some of them are flat out drunks |
| 15:13.42 | enveezee | abrotman: no point in getting smashed just because my biggest fan didnt throw herself at me one time |
| 15:13.47 | _xavier | Hi, is is normal that my Xorg process takes 40% of my RAM+SWAP (I have 496MB RAM and 1000MB swap) |
| 15:13.52 | *** join/#debian tryIT` (n=meile@ip68-226-23-92.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:13.57 | jhonny | how do I run idesk at startup? pls help me... |
| 15:14.04 | *** join/#debian Tell (n=nwm211@p50805503.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:14.18 | abrotman | enveezee: your biggest fan? |
| 15:14.21 | *** part/#debian Tell (n=nwm211@p50805503.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:14.26 | Acalanatha | ? |
| 15:14.30 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah Sasha, your sister |
| 15:14.34 | enveezee | I need to go talk to them people more often they all make me uncomfortable. they seem like nice people. |
| 15:14.37 | *** join/#debian Huahua (n=hua@222.50.93.147) |
| 15:14.39 | *** join/#debian xst|sPENKMAN (n=spenkman@ip3e830990.speed.planet.nl) |
| 15:14.46 | enveezee | its just they all take a stong liking to me, and I barely know them |
| 15:14.53 | *** join/#debian net-no2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 15:14.59 | *** part/#debian tryIT` (n=meile@ip68-226-23-92.tc.ph.cox.net) |
| 15:15.02 | Acalanatha | ? |
| 15:15.16 | abrotman | Acalanatha: do you actually have a question ? |
| 15:15.35 | enveezee | her dad wants to be my best friend and I dont know what her deal is.. sometimes she goes out of her way to get my attention and others its like I am invisible. |
| 15:16.04 | *** join/#debian addNtoX (n=jklsdj@i3ED6C3B8.versanet.de) |
| 15:16.09 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 15:16.11 | Acalanatha | yes,but my english is not good |
| 15:16.17 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 15:16.18 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 15:16.19 | abrotman | what is your language? |
| 15:16.32 | abrotman | enveezee: girl .. hello .. duh .. |
| 15:16.33 | Acalanatha | chinese |
| 15:16.42 | enveezee | I dont mind, I can always use more friends.. but I gotta break the ice. they feel like strangers to me |
| 15:16.46 | *** part/#debian KurtKraut (n=ktk@space.sbyte.org) |
| 15:17.10 | enveezee | hell this family I have worked for for like 6 years or so I still havent really fully broke the ice with |
| 15:17.18 | yure | hyksos, I have a Sony Vaio laptop and touchpad worked out of the box when installing debian (testing, 2.6 kernel). However i can't seem to suceed in setting up my USB mouse, any hints please? |
| 15:17.19 | Acalanatha | oh |
| 15:17.30 | yure | hyksos should be hy :) |
| 15:17.33 | *** join/#debian davi___ (i=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:17.38 | enveezee | we had a few drinks once and I am comfortable around them, but not as much as I'd like to be |
| 15:17.49 | *** join/#debian vekpos (n=C-Kling@p54A9EA40.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 15:17.59 | abrotman | !usbmouse |
| 15:18.00 | dpkg | i guess usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 15:18.31 | davi___ | What package have I to install to be able to see rightly some characters of the pronuntiation of words at http://www.wordreference.com/ ? |
| 15:18.31 | Acalanatha | ? |
| 15:18.51 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah I guess |
| 15:18.52 | *** part/#debian net-no2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 15:19.01 | *** join/#debian micro` (i=mohamed@80.178.4.97.adsl.012.net.il) |
| 15:20.03 | *** join/#debian grendal_prime (n=grendal@son-216-86-177-153.static.mlode.com) |
| 15:20.35 | *** join/#debian jah (n=ah@AStDenis-105-1-18-207.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:20.50 | bibe | hi all. I am migrating several servers from Gentoo to Sarge (yay!) in my customer's LAN. Since I have to compile a couple of Debian packages and install them on all machines, I'd like to set up a Debian repository for those packages on a single machine, which will have build-essential and kernel-package installed (I'd like to install all other machines without any compiler). What's the most common way to set up and maintain a Debian repository? |
| 15:20.54 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-206-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 15:21.06 | stephelton | i keep telling firefox to open mpegs with /usr/bin/gmplayer but it always opens with mplayer, what gives? |
| 15:21.16 | *** join/#debian sha1sum (n=sha1sum@unaffiliated/md5sum) |
| 15:21.17 | *** join/#debian syntaxx (n=syntaxx@203.87.199.210) |
| 15:21.26 | *** join/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.166.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 15:21.29 | *** join/#debian HLmersin (n=HLmersin@81.215.223.216) |
| 15:21.34 | HLmersin | seLam |
| 15:21.44 | HLmersin | HeLLo :d |
| 15:21.47 | HLmersin | Nerdeyim Ben |
| 15:21.48 | enveezee | bibe: tools like apt-move, apt-cacher may be helpful |
| 15:22.26 | enveezee | bibe: apt-cacher lets you maintain a central apt-cache for all boxes, and apt-move IIRC builds a proper repository out of a collection of debs |
| 15:22.56 | bibe | enveezee : thank you very much, I'll go and check those packages |
| 15:22.58 | *** join/#debian bboett (n=bboett@neu67-1-82-227-69-82.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:23.18 | *** join/#debian bboett (n=bboett@neu67-1-82-227-69-82.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 15:23.27 | enveezee | bibe: might not be exactly what you need but its the closest thing I could think of. |
| 15:24.23 | enveezee | I need to take some time to find an easier job that pays more money :P |
| 15:24.51 | enveezee | someone who got as many friends as I do, shouldnt be sitting around bored.. the problem is my schedule conflicts with everyone else's right now |
| 15:25.34 | bboett | hello! stupid question/problem again: my mozilla-firefox (debian unstable) doesn't show isolatin chars... shell and the rest of the system do... what did i wrong? |
| 15:25.41 | *** join/#debian barryh (n=barryh@mf56a36d0.tmodns.net) |
| 15:25.42 | *** join/#debian metallic (n=metallic@pop-mu-9-1-dialup-235.freesurf.ch) |
| 15:25.56 | bboett | default encoding in prefs is isolatin-1 |
| 15:26.00 | enveezee | I need to figure out things we can do, so I can schedule them in. I said for new years that I was going to keep in better touch with my friends this year.. and I've been doing better, but there are still people I dont see enough. |
| 15:27.16 | *** join/#debian luulis (n=l@cs78239198.pp.htv.fi) |
| 15:27.17 | enveezee | bboett: did you even check the BTS or file a bug? |
| 15:27.23 | Acalanatha | ? |
| 15:27.33 | metallic | hello world, i have a problem with apt, i have sarge 3.1 amd64, but i have any repository i386, when i digit "apt-get update" it return an error: (repositoryi386)/debian/sarge/main/binary-amd64/Package.Gz 404 not found, it search only index file for amd64 architeture |
| 15:27.59 | *** join/#debian Award (n=jpdp@core-philly-4-31.dynamic-dialup.coretel.net) |
| 15:28.10 | abrotman | enveezee: you never see me! |
| 15:28.12 | *** join/#debian cat (n=cat@unaffiliated/cat) |
| 15:28.16 | bboett | enveezee, didn't find anything according, but maybe i put in the wrong terms? |
| 15:28.21 | metallic | i can use i386 repository |
| 15:28.29 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah well I dont really know you. and you are like 300 miles away |
| 15:29.03 | *** join/#debian jjazz (n=jjazz@pool-162-84-196-241.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 15:29.06 | abrotman | metallic: iirc .. the pure64 sarge isn't mirrored everywhere .. and you can't run 32bit binaries on your pure64 system unless oyu have it in a chroot |
| 15:29.09 | enveezee | last hot idea I had was a sunday breakfast party, I was surprised I even got anyone out of bed for that one. |
| 15:29.13 | abrotman | jjazz: yeah .. you can have TO |
| 15:29.16 | *** join/#debian trygvebw (n=trygvebw@216-85-79.5002.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 15:29.30 | jjazz | abrotman, ? |
| 15:29.36 | abrotman | enveezee: i enjoy walks on the beach and assless chaps .. there .. now you know me :) |
| 15:29.43 | trygvebw | Hi |
| 15:29.44 | trygvebw | Anyone know how i can list the x largest files and directories in a directory using the console? |
| 15:29.47 | enveezee | abrotman: heh |
| 15:29.58 | *** join/#debian BOFH80 (n=BOFH80@cpc1-lewi3-4-0-cust30.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:30.03 | abrotman | jjazz: carry on |
| 15:30.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 786] by debhelper |
| 15:30.13 | cat | trygvebw: man ls |
| 15:30.23 | abrotman | enveezee: was the party actually at breakfast time ? |
| 15:30.24 | trygvebw | cat: i've already looked at man ls, thank you |
| 15:30.26 | enveezee | abrotman: you'd have to settle for fully-clothed walk along the ohia |
| 15:30.29 | metallic | abortman: it's an apt problem, but i use kubuntu amd64 :) not debian,... it's too difficult... |
| 15:30.36 | enveezee | abrotman: was around 9-10am IIRC |
| 15:30.38 | trygvebw | but ls won't sort |
| 15:30.42 | trygvebw | and i can |
| 15:30.48 | abrotman | metallic: ffs .. go ask #kubuntu |
| 15:30.50 | trygvebw | not figure out "sort" |
| 15:31.02 | stephelton | i keep telling firefox to open mpegs with /usr/bin/gmplayer but it always opens with mplayer, what gives? |
| 15:31.09 | enveezee | abrotman: you were here when pedro came in that morning asking about his pc, then I went over his house and called Steve to come over, and I made them all breakfast burritos |
| 15:31.20 | enveezee | abrotman: we did breakfast Texas-Style |
| 15:31.21 | abrotman | oh |
| 15:31.36 | abrotman | trygvebrb: du -k | sort .. or some crap like that |
| 15:31.59 | enveezee | Steve criticized my cooking habbits.. of course he's worked as a chef many places.. I've never cooked for anyone other than myself really |
| 15:32.04 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 15:32.08 | metallic | abortman: apt-get is a debian software... it's a problem with sources.list... but i don't said what... |
| 15:32.31 | abrotman | metallic: really .. ask #kubuntu .. they provided you with your apt-get .. if they've patched it .. we don't know |
| 15:32.33 | enveezee | I think I might have made Cara something to eat a few time when we were living together. |
| 15:32.42 | abrotman | enveezee: you need a wife! |
| 15:32.56 | enveezee | yeah I would just bitch about her all the time probably |
| 15:32.59 | metallic | ok |
| 15:33.36 | enveezee | I am very picky about women. you could hold a million woman march and I would probably only find maybe 3 that I liked |
| 15:33.48 | abrotman | yay .. i diplomatically dispatched a (k)ubuntu person! |
| 15:34.06 | abrotman | enveezee: looks-wise .. or overall ? |
| 15:34.14 | *** join/#debian pem3v78 (n=klj@z-nask.pjwstk.edu.pl) |
| 15:34.25 | widrone | abrotman: Congratulations on a job well done! =) |
| 15:35.07 | *** join/#debian zOrK (i=eclipse@200.90.189.58) |
| 15:35.16 | enveezee | abrotman: looks really doesnt matter. though I do prefer healthy|athletic|petite... women. I am not really a chubby chaser |
| 15:35.44 | abrotman | enveezee: you mean some people are ? |
| 15:36.06 | pem3v78 | suddenly after 20 days of non stop uptime, I rebooted the server and now have "permission denied" (executables and libraries) on some daemons that were working earlier. What could bethe problem ? (I'm not using SELinux) |
| 15:36.55 | *** join/#debian la (n=la_chiky@247.Red-217-127-155.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:37.00 | enveezee | hell I liked Cara since she was like 17, and I never touched her once in the months we lived together. I like her, but its her attitude I find unnattractive. She cant just be herself and enjoy life. She rather start fights with every person she comes in contact with and then sit around doing drugs feeling sorry for herself or whatever you call that |
| 15:37.09 | pem3v78 | e.g. start-stop-daemon: Unable to start /bin/svnserve: Permission denied |
| 15:37.09 | la | hola |
| 15:37.26 | pem3v78 | it was working didn't touch it |
| 15:37.37 | pem3v78 | and some others too |
| 15:37.37 | *** join/#debian Vme (n=Vme@mspnet01.netcogov.com) |
| 15:37.46 | Vme | anyone know why when I edit files with "vi" as root it doesn't show the colors? |
| 15:37.47 | pem3v78 | java stopped working with the same message |
| 15:38.01 | enveezee | its embarassing we could go to sheets to get gas or something , and she could start a fight with a guy, girl, old man..etc just for no reason. She used to get in fights with our hillbilly neighbors, whom I found to be quite nice people |
| 15:38.25 | abrotman | sheetz |
| 15:38.28 | enveezee | yeah that too |
| 15:38.36 | *** join/#debian solemnwarning (n=solemnwa@cpc3-fare2-6-0-cust70.cos2.cable.ntl.com) |
| 15:38.38 | abrotman | ack .. i'm a yinzer! |
| 15:39.11 | solemnwarning | ive installed tk8.4 and tk8.4-dev, why isnt there anything to do with tk in /usr/include or /usr/local/include? |
| 15:39.58 | *** join/#debian cluster (i=apache@ua-83-227-153-76.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 15:40.01 | *** join/#debian raz0 (i=raz0@0x535de803.kd4nxx12.adsl-dhcp.tele.dk) |
| 15:40.01 | abrotman | solemnwarning: dpkg -L <pkg> .. see where it is |
| 15:40.17 | Firestarter2 | if I edit a file in /etc/modutils for ftape how to I have modutils reload it? |
| 15:40.23 | cluster | hey |
| 15:40.25 | cluster | how do i get rid of grub from the MBR? |
| 15:40.27 | thingfish | I've never heard of "yinzer" outside of #debian. Is that slang for someone from around Philly? |
| 15:40.31 | cluster | in want to replace it with lilo |
| 15:40.44 | enveezee | Pittsburgh |
| 15:40.46 | *** join/#debian JPQuiceno (n=JuanPabl@fl-sdade-bw-a-109.miamfl.adelphia.net) |
| 15:40.47 | thingfish | ah |
| 15:40.48 | enveezee | and you only hear it because of me |
| 15:40.52 | pem3v78 | cluster: just configure lilo and execute "lilo" |
| 15:40.53 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:40.56 | enveezee | I brought yinzer to #debian |
| 15:41.05 | thingfish | it's a good word. |
| 15:41.08 | widrone | cluster: Lilo should install itself over MBR if you tell it to when installing it. |
| 15:41.13 | cluster | <pem3v78> i did |
| 15:41.29 | *** join/#debian mixter (n=Miranda@jonas.jamtport.se) |
| 15:41.33 | cluster | i uninstalled grub installed and configured lilo |
| 15:41.39 | *** join/#debian legrand (n=pel@212-41-71-133.adsl.solnet.ch) |
| 15:41.41 | enveezee | because I feel that since I have been here for half a decade, you have the right to know a little about me. I like to know what I am working with.. so even though you may not care, I feel free to express myself and my random thoughts, ideas//etc from time to time |
| 15:41.46 | cluster | .....but grub is still there |
| 15:41.50 | *** join/#debian dserodio (n=dserodio@portal.pucsp.br) |
| 15:42.00 | pem3v78 | cluster: look at boot config option |
| 15:42.15 | cluster | i had some issue a while ago, but forgot how i fixed it |
| 15:42.18 | mixter | hi! i just installed mysql, but when i reboot i get this error in syslog "/usr/sbin/mysqld: Can't create/write to file '/tmp/ibVDKtXh' (Errcode: 13)" is this a known error? what could be the problem? |
| 15:42.22 | widrone | cluster: Did you accually run lilo too? |
| 15:42.25 | thingfish | oh I love to read people's thoughts and goings-on. All technical gets old after a while. |
| 15:42.29 | *** part/#debian stewpid (i=strange@father.mirkwar.nu) |
| 15:42.32 | enveezee | and as abrotman pointed out.. I need a wife. then I would just talk her head off and not yours |
| 15:42.33 | cluster | <pem3v78> where? |
| 15:42.38 | cluster | <widrone> yes |
| 15:42.39 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:42.52 | pem3v78 | in /etc/lilo.conf |
| 15:43.02 | enveezee | meeting a girl you can talk to isnt easy these days. |
| 15:43.15 | enveezee | if you arent singing about balls at a club |
| 15:43.24 | abrotman | !yinzersmite thingfish |
| 15:43.24 | thingfish | It's never been easy, really. |
| 15:43.28 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:43.42 | cluster | <pem3v78> /dev/hda1 |
| 15:43.49 | *** part/#debian Vme (n=Vme@mspnet01.netcogov.com) |
| 15:43.49 | enveezee | well I used to meet a higher percentage of interesting women before it seems |
| 15:43.52 | pem3v78 | wrong |
| 15:43.56 | dserodio | can somone please help with building a Python package with Debian? |
| 15:43.57 | cluster | <pem3v78> should I replace it with /dev/hda ? |
| 15:44.05 | enveezee | of course I probably met a higher percentage on uninteresting ones too |
| 15:44.23 | pem3v78 | if you're sure it's the right disk, sure give a try |
| 15:44.56 | cluster | <pem3v78> i have just 1 partition :-D |
| 15:45.23 | cluster | ...and i also get this warning: |
| 15:45.26 | cluster | Warning: Unable to determine video adapter in use in the present system.Warning: Video adapter does not support VESA BIOS extensions needed for display of 256 colors. Boot loader will fall back to TEXT only operation. |
| 15:45.28 | widrone | cluster: If its MBR then skipp the 1 aso. |
| 15:45.43 | mixter | hmm... shouldn't /tmp have chmod 777? |
| 15:45.44 | pem3v78 | hda means mbr hda1 mean beginning of partition 1 |
| 15:46.33 | *** join/#debian zer0 (n=port113@host86-137-37-126.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:46.33 | *** join/#debian Czar_Net (n=aaa@200.193.231.105) |
| 15:46.34 | cluster | <pem3v78> makes sense. how do I get rid of that msg and get a bmp :-D |
| 15:46.42 | abrotman | enveezee: maybe you should try an intellectually stimulating place .. i imagine it's hard to meet girls at the liquor store :) |
| 15:47.41 | ircdevil | abrotman: not if you drink enuf |
| 15:47.42 | ircdevil | ! |
| 15:47.43 | cluster | nvm. thanx |
| 15:47.49 | abrotman | ircdevil: right |
| 15:47.54 | *** part/#debian Czar_Net (n=aaa@200.193.231.105) |
| 15:47.55 | *** join/#debian oracle_ (n=superlin@194.126.28.1) |
| 15:48.04 | *** join/#debian paci (n=paci@62.123.168.93) |
| 15:48.10 | ircdevil | abrotman: and they get pretty too! |
| 15:48.12 | *** part/#debian paci (n=paci@62.123.168.93) |
| 15:48.14 | enveezee | abrotman: heh. that's been my philosophy anymore.. I need to spend more time doing social events that I like. I cant go clubbing with my friends and shit to meet people, because thats not me, and I am not likely to meet people I am interested in there.. some drunk girl "dancing" to a song some high rapper wrote about sweat on his balls doesnt really appeal to me |
| 15:48.25 | *** join/#debian One (n=Ederson@rpt137-130.netmogi.com.br) |
| 15:48.30 | *** join/#debian superlinux (n=superlin@194.126.28.1) |
| 15:48.36 | *** join/#debian toresbe (i=tsb@developer.skolelinux.no) |
| 15:48.37 | *** join/#debian thc (i=is@5150.to) |
| 15:48.41 | *** part/#debian oracle_ (n=superlin@194.126.28.1) |
| 15:48.50 | abrotman | enveezee: you could go LARP with my brother :) |
| 15:48.57 | enveezee | abrotman: wtf is that? |
| 15:49.01 | abrotman | enveezee: what about joining some sort of athletic club thingie? |
| 15:49.01 | thingfish | if you had time and money, taking a night class can be a good way to meet people. |
| 15:49.03 | abrotman | !larp |
| 15:49.03 | dpkg | Live Action Role Playing |
| 15:49.19 | ircdevil | bah - just hang out on irc. |
| 15:49.23 | abrotman | enveezee: like my brother is involved with Ultimate Frisbee in pittsburgh |
| 15:49.35 | enveezee | abrotman: I dont know that I could afford doing something like that in sewickley |
| 15:49.39 | ircdevil | occational visits to the liquour store are in order |
| 15:49.49 | enveezee | abrotman: I do like playing tennis and stuff though. thats a good yuppie game |
| 15:49.53 | abrotman | fbi: you missed some good ones earlier |
| 15:50.16 | fbi | oh? did some hot chicks come in here and flash their titties? |
| 15:50.17 | abrotman | enveezee: canoeing in the rivers?> |
| 15:50.27 | abrotman | fbi: no .. destruction of my nick :) |
| 15:50.32 | fbi | hah |
| 15:50.47 | *** join/#debian EleckttrusS (n=stefano@201.242.143.122) |
| 15:51.06 | fbi | i dunno wtf happened, i must have disconnected last night and auto-joined efnet, i was logged on there with the nick unknown_____ |
| 15:51.09 | enveezee | abrotman: bah I was asked to go do that once, and I turned it down.. they came back and told me stories about swimming in the cold river trying to save the canoe from drowning |
| 15:51.22 | *** part/#debian trygvebrb (n=trygvebw@216-85-79.5002.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 15:51.25 | abrotman | enveezee: don't go with stupid people |
| 15:51.38 | enveezee | abrotman: yeah, going anywhere with stupid people isnt a good idea |
| 15:51.59 | enveezee | they should have to wear medical bracelets |
| 15:52.18 | enveezee | or as Jeff Foxworthy said, signs |
| 15:52.22 | *** join/#debian towo_ (n=tony@gp1.dbcc.edu) |
| 15:52.27 | *** join/#debian Fox_1_ (i=plague@dialup230-190.netsys.am) |
| 15:53.55 | abrotman | !moo |
| 15:53.55 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 15:54.30 | *** join/#debian TheWok (n=Aaron@d-c231-142.ext.dialin.uqconnect.net) |
| 15:54.47 | *** join/#debian harleyg (n=harleyg@82-44-218-103.cable.ubr10.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 15:54.58 | *** join/#debian asljhdaslkdj (n=asljhdas@122.Red-83-50-192.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 15:54.59 | asljhdaslkdj | hi |
| 15:55.08 | enveezee | abrotman: oh and there are people who are chubby chasers, like my cousing Starfish if you remember him |
| 15:55.19 | abrotman | enveezee: he was in here the other day i htink |
| 15:55.23 | abrotman | !seen starfish |
| 15:55.24 | dpkg | starfish <starfish@68-68-120-168.pittpa.adelphia.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 225d 21h 30m 6s ago, saying: 'nvz are ya here?'. |
| 15:55.31 | abrotman | oh .. guess not |
| 15:55.43 | pem3v78 | it there a tool to check all files installed for correct file permissions ? |
| 15:55.50 | mixter | how could one list the usb-devices connected to my computer? |
| 15:56.06 | abrotman | lsusb |
| 15:56.12 | xst|sPENKMAN | or cat /proc/bus/usb/devices |
| 15:56.19 | mixter | ok! thanks! |
| 15:56.36 | enveezee | abrotman: I reluctantly stayed at his house one night before I moved in with Cara. his nasty looking girlfriend wears way too little clothes for me. |
| 15:56.40 | *** join/#debian __DL__ (i=vanicat@debian/developer/vanicat) |
| 15:57.09 | *** join/#debian haxoor (n=vice@81.25.101.129) |
| 15:57.53 | stephelton | can i pass parameters to a windows program when using cedega? |
| 15:58.06 | abrotman | ask #cedega ? |
| 15:58.09 | haxoor | hi all |
| 15:58.17 | abrotman | enveezee: did you give her yours ? |
| 15:58.40 | Xenguy | yah, that was funny :-) |
| 15:58.44 | enveezee | abrotman: eh? who, what? |
| 15:58.47 | Xenguy | gah |
| 15:58.49 | Xenguy | ww |
| 15:58.55 | abrotman | enveezee: to the girl ? |
| 15:58.58 | antgel | did somebody mention tit flashing? |
| 15:59.03 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 15:59.04 | enveezee | abrotman: I dont understand what you are asking me |
| 15:59.04 | haxoor | can someone direct me un a good list of apt servers for testing distribution |
| 15:59.12 | antgel | !tell haxoor about apt-setup |
| 15:59.13 | abrotman | enveezee: did you give her your clothes to wear ? |
| 15:59.14 | *** join/#debian pigri (i=pigri@3e44ac63.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 15:59.20 | abrotman | enveezee: instead of running around naked ? |
| 15:59.32 | enveezee | abrotman: oh, no I just went to sleep |
| 15:59.36 | abrotman | nightmares! |
| 15:59.43 | enveezee | abrotman: and never stayed at his house again |
| 15:59.51 | *** join/#debian titoune (i=tf75020@m9.net81-66-160.noos.fr) |
| 16:00.36 | *** join/#debian Morydd (n=morydd@c-67-175-4-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:00.42 | enveezee | Cara needed someone to help her with things, and she knew I didnt have anywhere to stay while I was in town, so soon afterwards she let me stay with her |
| 16:00.59 | Morydd | does anyone know what a "memory layout corrupt" error might mean. I can't seem to find anything by google |
| 16:01.05 | enveezee | I was saved. didnt have to live with any of the undesireables |
| 16:01.37 | *** join/#debian blaamann (n=rune@144.84-48-18.nextgentel.com) |
| 16:02.24 | abrotman | enveezee: then you got busy! |
| 16:02.25 | haxoor | enveezee, I don't find x-window-system package |
| 16:02.27 | nksen | do I just need dhcpd installed to be able to use "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces? i bootup my machine, everything seems to work great, but last line in /var/log/kern.log is "kernel: eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII #1 link partner capability of 41e" and system seems to hang - I cannot ping it |
| 16:02.35 | abrotman | nksen: no .. |
| 16:02.38 | nksen | and i do not have physical access to checkout |
| 16:02.56 | nksen | abrotman: any idea? |
| 16:03.07 | abrotman | nksen: try not full duplex ? |
| 16:03.07 | *** join/#debian J_P (n=jp@200.146.37.219) |
| 16:03.17 | J_P | hi all |
| 16:03.29 | *** join/#debian cahoot (n=radix@pdpc/supporter/active/cahoot) |
| 16:03.35 | fbi | !info x-window-system etch |
| 16:03.36 | valdyn | nksen: you dont need dhcpd to use iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 16:03.40 | nksen | abrotman: hm. it's a via rhine, should be capable of using full duplex. but... where do I configure that? |
| 16:03.47 | dpkg | x-window-system: (X Window System), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2.dfsg.1-7 (etch), Packaged size: 168 kB, Installed size: 260 kB |
| 16:03.52 | fbi | haxoor ^ |
| 16:03.57 | xst|sPENKMAN | Does anyone have a good howto about installing a speedtouch usb modem on debian sarge? |
| 16:04.01 | haxoor | yes |
| 16:04.07 | fbi | see above. |
| 16:04.07 | nksen | valdyn: but at least one util, at least man interfaces tells me so |
| 16:04.09 | abrotman | nksen: mii-tool or etherconf .. |
| 16:04.13 | abrotman | !speedtouch |
| 16:04.16 | abrotman | bah |
| 16:04.24 | *** join/#debian Esaj (n=jason@fw.sedgwick.netspade.com) |
| 16:04.26 | nksen | abrotman: but it's unlikely that this is the reason I'd say, eh!? |
| 16:04.28 | abrotman | ! speedtouch usb |
| 16:04.28 | dpkg | somebody said speedtouch usb was http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/ |
| 16:04.31 | haxoor | fbi, it doesn't recognize the command startx |
| 16:04.33 | *** join/#debian wrykyn_ramanan (n=rparamas@63.124.237.254) |
| 16:04.45 | valdyn | nksen: you need something that provides dhclient |
| 16:04.46 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@p54B99EF4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:04.48 | abrotman | nksen: you're showing the last line of your logs .. that's all i have |
| 16:04.50 | fbi | haxoor: then you don't have X installed. |
| 16:04.53 | *** join/#debian ireverentreveren (n=bah@24.149.18.22) |
| 16:04.57 | nksen | abrotman: have a sec |
| 16:05.00 | fbi | !tell haxoor about setup x |
| 16:05.43 | enveezee | abrotman: I pretty much stayed out of her room. we lived separate lives for the most part.. we'd goto work and when we'd get off we'd usually go hang out with out friends. I would often ride up here to da burg and leave her in motown to snort her coke or whatever she was doing that day. |
| 16:05.47 | J_P | hey all, I install imagemagick and another tools for manipulation image in debian for me transform one image.yuv to one image.ppm. Then I do this : "yuvtoppm 480 640 image.yuv". And this command show my windows with many caracteres and when finish not generated any file.. witout errors, anyone know why ? or know another method for transform one yuv to ppm/jpeg ? |
| 16:05.49 | *** part/#debian toresbe (i=tsb@developer.skolelinux.no) |
| 16:06.00 | abrotman | enveezee: you're a good friend! :) |
| 16:06.14 | *** join/#debian deeku (n=apple@S0106000c417af7ff.cg.shawcable.net) |
| 16:06.24 | pem3v78 | hm. the programs execute correcly when I run them manually, but when run from /etc/init.d there's "permission denied" |
| 16:06.37 | pem3v78 | I run them from root account |
| 16:06.39 | abrotman | duh .. always reset your vars! |
| 16:07.29 | *** join/#debian ufoalien (n=java@adsl-177-161-fixip.tiscali.ch) |
| 16:07.37 | nksen | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/421812 . would be nice if you find ANY hint. I'm really clueless |
| 16:07.47 | *** join/#debian andre_m (n=ilf@unaffiliated/amdrem001) |
| 16:07.54 | *** join/#debian jeanjacques (n=jeanjacq@129.194.47.52) |
| 16:08.01 | andre_m | still no OOo2 in sid :(( |
| 16:08.04 | *** part/#debian andy_ (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 16:08.09 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 16:08.11 | jeanjacques | before asking you stupid questions i'm looking for a great tutorial about configuring postfix on debian |
| 16:08.15 | valdyn | andre_m: why would you think that? |
| 16:08.33 | valdyn | !info openoffice.org sid |
| 16:08.36 | abrotman | jeanjacques: that's a stupid question! |
| 16:08.37 | andre_m | valdyn: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=openoffice.org2&searchon=name&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 16:08.41 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 16:08.46 | abrotman | jeanjacques: actually .. the standard postfix docs are pretty good .. |
| 16:08.52 | valdyn | andre_m: look what dpkg found in sid |
| 16:08.53 | abrotman | jeanjacques: www.postfix.org .. |
| 16:08.57 | *** join/#debian agney-home (n=agney@200.223.215.150) |
| 16:09.00 | *** join/#debian ZeroXp (n=0Xp@81stb45.codetel.net.do) |
| 16:09.16 | andre_m | "apt-cache show openoffice.org2" returns nothing |
| 16:09.25 | *** join/#debian juju (n=juju@64.0.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 16:09.27 | abrotman | apt-get update |
| 16:09.31 | andre_m | holdon |
| 16:09.32 | jeanjacques | abrotman: i'm looking for something debian orientied |
| 16:09.39 | valdyn | andre_m: b/c the package isnt called openoffice.org2 |
| 16:09.40 | enveezee | abrotman: I try. *shrug* Shes sexy, but her attitude is not. I was living with her and my cousin Amber at one point for a few weeks and they were both just disgraceful. To see two beautiful young women every day and be working construction all day long comming home with a big wad of money and nothing to spend it on, and have them just want to sit around feeling sorry for themselves when you ask them to do something is sad. |
| 16:09.43 | andre_m | aah, drop the 2 |
| 16:09.50 | ZeroXp | alguen habla espanol |
| 16:09.50 | andre_m | valdyn: yeah, thx :) |
| 16:09.55 | abrotman | jeanjacques: that's waht i'm saying though .. the debian install doesn't really deviate from the standard install .. is there anything specific you need help with ? |
| 16:10.22 | abrotman | enveezee: you could turn them into man-hating-dikes :) |
| 16:10.24 | enveezee | abrotman: they are both hung up on deadbeat men who are in jail. |
| 16:10.25 | nkuttler | !es |
| 16:10.25 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:10.27 | jeanjacques | abrotman: no but before asking silly questions i wanted to read smart documentation |
| 16:10.38 | ircdevil | my boss is an ignorant and an idiot |
| 16:10.41 | jeanjacques | abrotman: thank you |
| 16:10.41 | ircdevil | *sigh* |
| 16:11.00 | abrotman | jeanjacques: also .. the guys in #postfix (when awake) are pretty good |
| 16:11.11 | andre_m | valdyn: then why is ooo2 (beta2) in experimental? |
| 16:11.16 | *** part/#debian ZeroXp (n=0Xp@81stb45.codetel.net.do) |
| 16:11.28 | enveezee | abrotman: I am out here feeding them, fixing their cars, and begging them daily to do anything from getting drunk, going out.. eat, movie, shopping, pointlessly wandering.. and all they want to do is sit around and be miserable |
| 16:11.55 | *** join/#debian SvperPhly (n=codyb81@CLLABailey.tamu.edu) |
| 16:12.01 | *** join/#debian eruin (n=eruin@unaffiliated/eruin) |
| 16:12.06 | jeanjacques | abrotman: thank you |
| 16:12.12 | eruin | could anyone tell me what this actually means while running apt-get update?: Packages.gz Sub-process gzip returned an error code (1) |
| 16:12.17 | enveezee | abrotman: once my cousin I was working for pissed me off I just left town and told the whole town they can sit around that big rut in their lives and rot for all I care :P |
| 16:12.31 | valdyn | andre_m: so people can test it without removing the functional oo.org i guess |
| 16:12.39 | *** join/#debian Everton_Carpes (n=Everton_@201.10.58.28) |
| 16:12.44 | andre_m | i see. well thanks |
| 16:12.48 | *** join/#debian honschu (i=4713-ide@p549EEBAD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:13.01 | honschu | How to change the X.Org Mouse coursour? |
| 16:13.12 | fbi | !drxx honschu |
| 16:13.13 | dpkg | honschu: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:13.15 | SvperPhly | Hey guys, when I run lilo on my lvm2+raid1 system, I get this error: device-mapper ioctl cmd 12 failed: "no such device or address \n Fatal: device-mapper: dm_task_run(DM_DEVICE_TABLE) failed" which has something to do with udev vs devfs and the kernel that I'm using... does anyone know of a work around so I can get this system up and booting? |
| 16:13.16 | fbi | err |
| 16:13.17 | fbi | sorry |
| 16:13.30 | abrotman | enveezee: but you came back! |
| 16:13.31 | fbi | honschu: install a new cursor |
| 16:13.48 | enveezee | abrotman: no I came back to the Burg, they live down in Morgantown |
| 16:14.02 | abrotman | yeah .. south pittsburgh is .. dirty and depressing |
| 16:14.02 | fbi | my keyboard is still giving me setkeycode errors, it's starting to piss me off |
| 16:14.08 | fbi | only happens in console |
| 16:14.13 | *** part/#debian honschu (i=4713-ide@p549EEBAD.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:14.13 | TheCount | enveezee: get them to do some sports. at least two times a weak, at least fourty minutes each time. will improve their mood and attitude surprisingly. |
| 16:14.31 | *** part/#debian jeanjacques (n=jeanjacq@129.194.47.52) |
| 16:14.33 | enveezee | abrotman: I left them their to let thier jailbird run their lives and keep their happiness in a heartshaped box inside the county |
| 16:14.41 | Morydd | I'm starting to suspect that my video card may be dying. |
| 16:14.42 | abrotman | enveezee: and where are they now ? |
| 16:14.44 | fbi | abrotman: is south pittsburg where the 'strip district' is |
| 16:14.48 | TheCount | s/weak/week/ |
| 16:14.51 | abrotman | fbi: which strip? :) |
| 16:14.51 | *** join/#debian BjornW (n=root@stilgar.xs4all.nl) |
| 16:14.55 | enveezee | TheCount: you cant get those girls to do anything but maybe some weed or cocain. |
| 16:15.00 | enveezee | drives me nuts |
| 16:15.04 | enveezee | waste of good women |
| 16:15.06 | abrotman | fbi: the red light district ? |
| 16:15.10 | fbi | abrotman: the one with all the shitty bars/nightclubs on one street |
| 16:15.13 | fbi | hah |
| 16:15.18 | TheCount | enveezee: how old? |
| 16:15.30 | *** join/#debian ldx_ (i=ldx@log77-3-82-243-254-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:15.30 | abrotman | fbi: no .. i don't think so .. i really mean south pittsburgh .. on the other side of the river |
| 16:15.41 | fbi | there's this sandwich place called permanti brothers (sp) and they put fries on their sandwiches |
| 16:15.43 | ldx_ | Hello there |
| 16:15.46 | enveezee | My cousin Amber is right now 21, she'll be 22 in Dec, and Cara is 20 |
| 16:15.47 | abrotman | fbi: i've been there |
| 16:15.55 | fbi | that's the strip district |
| 16:16.01 | TheCount | enveezee: aah, not everything's lost, then. wait a few years. |
| 16:16.04 | abrotman | i think that's west pittsburgh |
| 16:16.21 | fbi | ah. |
| 16:16.37 | fbi | pittsburg is a weird place |
| 16:16.39 | abrotman | fbi: like the 279 area .. is dirty .. ask enveezee tohugh |
| 16:16.40 | fbi | i prefer philly |
| 16:16.42 | *** join/#debian Spike-Sp (i=spike@AClermont-Ferrand-251-1-9-47.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:16.55 | abrotman | fbi: and it's called Primanti Bros |
| 16:16.59 | *** join/#debian juju__ (n=juju@64.0.99-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 16:17.00 | fbi | yeah that's it |
| 16:17.01 | enveezee | pfft I dont care anymore. only thing I miss is hearing Cara singing during those short rare times where she was in a good mood |
| 16:17.28 | abrotman | fbi: http://www.primantibros.com/ |
| 16:17.35 | dusk | enveezee: is she single? |
| 16:17.52 | enveezee | dusk: when I was living with her, she had a b/f in jail |
| 16:17.53 | abrotman | fbi: it's so hard for me to remember .. my brother drives all over town to get next door :) |
| 16:18.02 | dusk | enveezee: perfect |
| 16:18.09 | enveezee | dusk: I dont know what she does now, I dont talk to her anymore |
| 16:18.12 | fbi | haha |
| 16:18.21 | ldx_ | Are there people around who succeed in setting up the macromedia flash player on to their unofficial amd64_sarge ? I mean, is it possible ? |
| 16:18.21 | *** join/#debian acalven (n=acalven@83.230.195.70) |
| 16:18.23 | *** join/#debian Lee__ (n=lee@66.11.200.130) |
| 16:18.39 | acalven | hola |
| 16:18.39 | abrotman | ldx_: no .. #debian-amd64 |
| 16:18.41 | enveezee | I am here in Pitt getting on with my life, she is probably still wasting away in Morgantown |
| 16:18.46 | ldx_ | Fine |
| 16:19.06 | *** join/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:19.16 | *** join/#debian kenduest (n=kenduest@kenduest.Math.NCTU.edu.tw) |
| 16:19.19 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:19.34 | *** join/#debian FrankyFourFinger (n=frvnieuw@lugwv/member/FrankyFourFinger) |
| 16:19.35 | *** part/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:19.37 | acalven | que tal |
| 16:19.39 | guitoune | hello |
| 16:19.40 | FrankyFourFinger | hi |
| 16:19.48 | fbi | !tell acalven about es |
| 16:19.51 | enveezee | She used to sing this Leanne Rimes song all the time, and she always said the lyrics wrong but it was still nice to hear her sing anyhow :P |
| 16:19.51 | abrotman | fbi: i'd have to see a picture of outside .. i don't remember what street ... |
| 16:19.58 | Lee__ | how would I display the current state table with iptables? |
| 16:20.00 | FrankyFourFinger | Can someone tell me how I can block a postfix smtp queue ? |
| 16:20.06 | abrotman | #postfix ? |
| 16:20.09 | *** join/#debian kletter-matze (n=kletter-@212.126.219.82) |
| 16:20.14 | *** join/#debian r0sk (n=r0sk@cm89149.red.mundo-r.com) |
| 16:20.14 | abrotman | Lee__: iptables -n -L |
| 16:20.19 | r0sk | Hi ppl |
| 16:20.28 | r0sk | anyone in testing and with non_us? |
| 16:20.28 | fbi | well, two of my buddies and me got in a pretty nasty brawl with about 8 jocks right out front of that place |
| 16:20.30 | guitoune | i don't manage to boot a debian-psarc install cdrom and a sparcstation 5 |
| 16:20.31 | fbi | we got our asses kicked |
| 16:20.33 | Lee__ | abrotman, but what about the current state of connections going through those chains? |
| 16:20.49 | abrotman | hey .. i told you what you asked for :) |
| 16:20.54 | enveezee | wtf happened to T. that fool hasnt called me back yet |
| 16:20.55 | Lee__ | blah |
| 16:20.59 | abrotman | Lee__: #iptables might know more :) |
| 16:21.05 | N0S3 | hello |
| 16:21.09 | enveezee | I was staying up cause he called and said he was getting off early.. |
| 16:21.13 | Lee__ | I think so too. I kind of miss pfctl -sa |
| 16:21.14 | abrotman | fbi: when you coming to philly again? |
| 16:21.23 | *** part/#debian r0sk (n=r0sk@cm89149.red.mundo-r.com) |
| 16:21.25 | fbi | probably not until winter is over, i hate cold |
| 16:21.32 | abrotman | Lee__: i think you can setup packet filtering on deiban |
| 16:21.32 | enveezee | he's the most reliably unreliable person I know |
| 16:21.39 | kletter-matze | hello. Has somebody knfsd in a sata raid5 system running? (more professionel usage then privat) |
| 16:21.54 | *** join/#debian Xybernaut (i=deb@ppp83-237-171-131.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 16:22.03 | fbi | !deiban |
| 16:22.05 | *** join/#debian Net-No2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 16:22.38 | fbi | dpkg deiban is the japanese version of debian, tastes good with sake |
| 16:22.38 | dpkg | fbi: okay |
| 16:22.38 | N0S3 | do I need that when poweron or restart my pc, the screen is loaded with the centericq, as I make it? |
| 16:22.44 | N0S3 | any sample? |
| 16:22.45 | *** part/#debian Net-No2 (n=wmartin@62.85.194.226) |
| 16:23.04 | abrotman | enveezee: which one ? |
| 16:23.32 | enveezee | abrotman: But I do love you, from Coyote Ugly. The one Cara would sing to me all the time |
| 16:23.52 | abrotman | enveezee: the Moonlight song ? |
| 16:24.16 | enveezee | I got her singing Sweet Dreams on night cause I came back from the burgh and was laying on the floor and started singing the manson version.. and then I hear her start singing from the other room |
| 16:24.26 | *** join/#debian aktinos (n=ws@221.Red-81-36-198.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:24.32 | *** join/#debian Jacky^ (n=Jacky^@d83-176-29-193.cust.tele2.it) |
| 16:24.34 | Jacky^ | hi |
| 16:24.37 | abrotman | enveezee: oh .. nm .. i see it |
| 16:24.38 | enveezee | abrotman: no there are 3 Leanne Rimes songs in that move |
| 16:25.01 | abrotman | enveezee: you should call her |
| 16:25.01 | Jacky^ | anyone know some bluetooth manager that can run in Debian Unstable ? |
| 16:25.11 | abrotman | enveezee: got money to take her out for a normal dinner ? |
| 16:25.13 | enveezee | it was cute when she would sing it.. not just because she messed up the words, but because it was rare to see her happy |
| 16:25.27 | enveezee | abrotman: sure, I had money then, she didnt ever want to go anywhere |
| 16:25.37 | *** part/#debian Edis0n (n=weber@u16-173.dsl.vianetworks.de) |
| 16:25.37 | abrotman | enveezee: now .. not then |
| 16:25.38 | *** join/#debian apogee (n=apogee_p@static221052.dsl.hol.gr) |
| 16:25.39 | fbi | !info kdebluetooth sid |
| 16:25.41 | dpkg | kdebluetooth: (KDE Bluetooth Framework), section kde, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.0beta1-5 (sid), Packaged size: 1320 kB, Installed size: 4512 kB |
| 16:25.51 | abrotman | !find bluetooth sid |
| 16:25.53 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'bluetooth' (5): kdebluetooth ;; kdebluetooth-irmcsync ;; libbluetooth1 ;; libbluetooth1-dev ;; libmultisync-plugin-irmc-bluetooth. |
| 16:26.06 | *** join/#debian angelgabriel (n=angelgab@host86-138-232-211.range86-138.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:26.17 | apogee | hello |
| 16:26.22 | Jacky^ | thanks |
| 16:26.32 | angelgabriel | Hello everybody - It's been weeks since I was here, *looks around for familiar faces* |
| 16:26.52 | apogee | I need some help with Debian 3.1 |
| 16:26.54 | enveezee | abrotman: I am not going to go 90mi to ask some girl who is probably still just wasting her life |
| 16:26.57 | angelgabriel | 771 people, and I can't recognise ONE face? (name) |
| 16:27.08 | enveezee | abrotman: to dinner. |
| 16:27.09 | abrotman | enveezee: i'm always curious |
| 16:27.13 | *** join/#debian syntaxis__ (n=syntaxis@user-5-240-151-83.e7even.com) |
| 16:27.17 | angelgabriel | Hi abrotman, how you doing? |
| 16:27.44 | fbi | jackass |
| 16:27.46 | apogee | how do I add software....tried already apt-get |
| 16:27.56 | abrotman | enveezee: i wish more of the people i used to talk to were closer |
| 16:27.57 | angelgabriel | *laughs* Oh, it's like THAT is it now! |
| 16:28.05 | fbi | apogee: try synaptic if you prefer something graphical |
| 16:28.07 | EmleyMoor | apogee: Is the software you want to add in Debian? |
| 16:28.27 | apogee | to fbi :synaptic in console as root ???? |
| 16:28.31 | *** part/#debian Morydd (n=morydd@c-67-175-4-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:28.44 | N0S3 | im try with "screen -dmS centericq centericq" , but when I recover the console screen, it asks me him to configure it to the centericq |
| 16:28.48 | fbi | apogee: sure, if you run it as user it will simply prompt you for root pass |
| 16:28.55 | abrotman | apogee: use apt-get |
| 16:29.12 | fbi | oh, i thought he was in X |
| 16:29.20 | xelam | use apt-get anyway |
| 16:29.25 | xelam | don't need anything else |
| 16:29.28 | enveezee | abrotman: A Murder Of One |
| 16:29.34 | stephelton | when i try to mount my cdrom (with a possibly dirty cd?) the xterm won't respond and ctrl c does nothing... |
| 16:29.34 | fbi | he just said he tried it already. |
| 16:29.38 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 16:29.52 | fbi | why would you recommend something that they just said they tried |
| 16:29.57 | *** join/#debian Morydd (n=morydd@c-67-175-4-14.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 16:30.09 | apogee | yes ,fbi ,already done it (I'm using XP for this IRC ,and Debian on a machine=P4 3GHz 512 /80GB next to it) |
| 16:30.11 | angelgabriel | Okay, fine, down to business - I'm having a slight problem - How to I get my DNS server to report the IP address of a sub domain? I'm hosting a site called mysite.hopto.org and I want people inside my lan to be able to access it. I'm thinking maybe to place it in my hosts file on my DNS server, but that seems like a bit of a dirty hack |
| 16:30.15 | stephelton | when i try to mount my cdrom (with a possibly dirty cd?) the xterm won't respond and ctrl c does nothing... |
| 16:30.33 | *** join/#debian gpm (n=gpm@c-67-161-2-8.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 16:30.34 | fbi | apogee: if you're in X, synaptic works just fine, if you don't like apt-get |
| 16:30.46 | Morydd | can anyone reccomend a source for choosing an cheap video card? |
| 16:30.55 | *** join/#debian Althaser (n=nufan@bl7-217-37.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 16:31.01 | xelam | Morydd: you mean a shop? |
| 16:31.05 | angelgabriel | I tried to add a new master zone, but then, anyone trying to log onto any other sub domain of hopto.org will be denied access |
| 16:31.06 | gpm | hi guys. what's the easiest/best way to copy a dvd that's in the tray of /dev/dvd to an iso...like ~/dvd.iso? |
| 16:31.30 | *** part/#debian ldx_ (i=ldx@log77-3-82-243-254-181.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:31.31 | Morydd | xelam: I was thinking more a comparision site, specific to linux compatibility. |
| 16:31.34 | apogee | to fbi:thank you ,I like synaptic very much.I need some help however. |
| 16:31.38 | angelgabriel | Morydd - your local cat burglar, crack head, or maybe, just maybe, a shop |
| 16:31.48 | angelgabriel | even ebay |
| 16:31.48 | apogee | to fbi ,not about synaptic of course |
| 16:31.56 | *** join/#debian jsebara (n=adad@200-138-218-78.bnut3702.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 16:32.02 | xelam | Morydd: well I'd say get a geforce-whatever and it should be OK :) |
| 16:32.04 | fbi | apogee: help with? |
| 16:32.17 | afabian | gpm, dd if=/dev/dvd of=~/dvd.iso |
| 16:32.18 | fbi | nvidia garbage |
| 16:32.28 | gpm | afabian: really? that simple? |
| 16:32.55 | gpm | afabian: i'll be able to write that iso to a dvd later on? |
| 16:32.58 | afabian | gpm, I've done it before and it worked. But I've used lots of systems, it might've been under some BSD. |
| 16:32.58 | apogee | to fbi: I want to set a LAMP system(Linux Apache Mysql PHP) BUT.....I cannot :-( |
| 16:32.59 | angelgabriel | gpm - Yes, it really is THAT simple - when i found that out, i was SO pissed off, because to achieve the same thing in windows, is HARD! |
| 16:33.14 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p57854B06.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:33.16 | *** join/#debian xinming (n=xinming@60.180.93.172) |
| 16:33.17 | xelam | gpm: assuming it's not CSS protected |
| 16:33.27 | angelgabriel | gpm - You'll be able to write that ISO, just as long as it ain't protected |
| 16:33.31 | fbi | apogee: why not? you need to explain errors or what is happening |
| 16:33.47 | gpm | xelam: and if it is CSS protected? |
| 16:34.12 | xelam | gpm: then it's illegal so you shouldn't do it ;) (I don't know how) |
| 16:34.24 | enveezee | abrotman: A Murder Of One is last track of one of my fav band's albums called "August and Everything After" its pretty much the song they got their name from.. and its the way I feel about talking to Cara again until she's cleaned up and holds her own. Nice try on the happily ever after suggestion though :P |
| 16:34.36 | *** join/#debian ptlis (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 16:34.36 | gpm | xelam: wow. CSS even blocks dd...crazy |
| 16:34.42 | xelam | yes |
| 16:34.44 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 16:34.46 | *** join/#debian spunz (n=spunz@h081217096096.dyn.cm.kabsi.at) |
| 16:34.57 | xelam | (I think) |
| 16:34.58 | abrotman | enveezee: Counting Crows ? |
| 16:35.13 | apogee | to fbi:history in brief ,wanted Debian so got it (3.1 Sarge),could fiox graphix ,joined IRC and fixed it...couldn't control it...switched to Suse 9.3 pro ,got Suse bible ,can't customise it...now trying Debian once again |
| 16:35.20 | *** join/#debian jeanjacques (n=jeanjacq@129.194.47.52) |
| 16:35.30 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 16:35.38 | *** join/#debian amki (n=Urf@p50837A35.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 16:35.44 | jeanjacques | i have this error message on debian stable " E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) |
| 16:35.44 | abrotman | oh no! |
| 16:35.44 | *** join/#debian Kevin`_ (i=1000@69.95.143.97) |
| 16:35.47 | *** join/#debian Celelibi (i=celelibi@APoitiers-155-1-11-234.w83-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 16:35.52 | abrotman | jeanjacques: are you root ? |
| 16:35.59 | jeanjacques | abrotman: yes |
| 16:36.04 | apogee | to fbi:now I can't get MySql to work.... |
| 16:36.11 | afabian | apogee, you can do just about anything with any version of Linux you can do with another. They vary sometimes in what they make easy, but no use changing horses too often. |
| 16:36.12 | abrotman | jeanjacques: is there another lock file there ? |
| 16:36.27 | xelam | jeanjacques: are you running apt-get more than once at the same time? |
| 16:36.35 | abrotman | enveezee: do i get a prize? |
| 16:36.38 | fbi | apogee: so why can't you install apache? |
| 16:36.41 | xelam | afabian: s/version/distro/ |
| 16:36.46 | fbi | i need to go eat, my breakfast is ready |
| 16:36.52 | jeanjacques | abrotman: yes, because i tried to do apt-get install clamav & clamav-daemon |
| 16:36.54 | abrotman | enveezee: it's in my car . haven't listend in a few months .. but i'll make a note to when i drive home |
| 16:36.54 | enveezee | abrotman: yep, to me its a song about a girl who is wasting her life waiting for someone who will never be there for her |
| 16:36.55 | *** join/#debian Azhrarn (n=azhrarn@yar.underhanded.org) |
| 16:37.01 | apogee | to afabian: this is what I thouight so.... |
| 16:37.11 | jeanjacques | abrotman: and it hang up |
| 16:37.15 | angelgabriel | okay.... |
| 16:37.25 | angelgabriel | .... guess there are no BIND experts in here today! |
| 16:37.36 | abrotman | jeanjacques: are you really sure you're root ? |
| 16:37.40 | *** join/#debian DHGE_ (n=eduard@i577A02C1.versanet.de) |
| 16:37.44 | *** join/#debian werw (n=asdf@200.9.237.254) |
| 16:37.49 | jeanjacques | abrotman: yes i'm really sure |
| 16:38.00 | enveezee | abrotman: the live version he did at the Hammerstien Ballroom in '97 was the best I've heard.. was really upbeat and he was very enthusiastic in his performance |
| 16:38.02 | abrotman | angelgabriel: #dns ? |
| 16:38.11 | apogee | to afabian : but....I needed PHP to support DSO...could'nt get that |
| 16:38.18 | *** join/#debian Laibsch (n=Laibsch@p54B9ADEC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:38.33 | *** join/#debian atp (n=anonymou@58.33.150.111) |
| 16:38.34 | *** join/#debian mrew (n=mrew@warner.force9.co.uk) |
| 16:38.34 | abrotman | enveezee: looking at the lyrics ...yes .. i do like that song .. a lot |
| 16:38.39 | *** part/#debian TheWok (n=Aaron@d-c231-142.ext.dialin.uqconnect.net) |
| 16:38.41 | abrotman | enveezee: i'm bad with song names :) |
| 16:39.01 | Azhrarn | hey all. I've been tooling around with a sparc system that doesn't seem to want to detect the cd drive post-boot. And while the install docs mention a floppy based install, I can't seem to find sparc floppy images anywhere :/ |
| 16:39.08 | atp | hey, does anyone here have any experience with ncursesw (note the ending w) development? |
| 16:39.08 | abrotman | jeanjacques: then there's a lock file in there somewhere |
| 16:39.13 | *** join/#debian joaoo (n=dsl@a81-84-126-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 16:39.20 | *** part/#debian joaoo (n=dsl@a81-84-126-70.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 16:39.36 | *** join/#debian beleys (n=beleys@167.94.102-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 16:39.40 | jeanjacques | abrotman: can i delete it without breaking my system ? |
| 16:39.52 | *** join/#debian sapphire (n=sapphire@195.130.47.15) |
| 16:39.54 | Laibsch | xoz and all: I was able to narrow down the problem. /var/log/Xorg.0.log contains the following line "(EE) Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap" |
| 16:39.54 | enveezee | I just picture her there staring into the sky counting crows of course that wouldnt really happen, her state of mind has her unable to soak up such details of the world. |
| 16:40.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 793] by debhelper |
| 16:40.13 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 16:40.18 | *** join/#debian empty_mind (i=shark@dialpool-210-214-24-156.maa.sify.net) |
| 16:40.27 | apogee | anyone could help with Debian's 3.1 default installation options ??? |
| 16:41.03 | empty_mind | is it possible to install debian on a harddisk partition from harddisk itself? |
| 16:41.04 | *** join/#debian fluxi (i=fluxi@195-227.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 16:41.06 | *** join/#debian Lady[14] (i=Bboys@213.186.175.212) |
| 16:41.20 | Rawplayer | re |
| 16:41.57 | enveezee | I need to go upstairs T. probably called I just didnt hear it cause my ringer is off :P |
| 16:41.58 | nksen | is a kernel panic also written into /var/log/kern.log? |
| 16:43.42 | apogee | if I want to un-install my sql what should i do ???I tried manual installation |
| 16:43.58 | *** join/#debian AndroFlux (n=jason@ppp81.polson.net) |
| 16:44.00 | enveezee | apogee: apt-get --purge remove mysql |
| 16:44.22 | jeanjacques | i have this error message on debian stable " E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/) do you know what can i do about it ? |
| 16:44.39 | apogee | for enveezee :I did not used apt to install it...???? |
| 16:44.47 | aktinos | jeanjacques: did you run the command as root? |
| 16:45.00 | jeanjacques | aktinos: yes |
| 16:45.05 | *** join/#debian harleyg (n=harleyg@82-44-218-103.cable.ubr10.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 16:45.07 | enveezee | apogee: then its kind of off-topic |
| 16:45.11 | enveezee | apogee: make uninstall |
| 16:45.26 | apogee | envee |
| 16:45.28 | *** join/#debian keikoz (n=keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:45.30 | enveezee | apogee: ask the mysql people for help. #mysql maybe |
| 16:45.43 | aktinos | jeanjacques: so maybe is there another instance of apt-get running? |
| 16:45.46 | apogee | enveezee :how ???? deleting the folder ??? |
| 16:45.55 | nksen | is a kernel panic also written into /var/log/kern.log? |
| 16:45.58 | empty_mind | is it possible to launch debian install from a usb pen drive? |
| 16:45.59 | EmleyMoor | When I install libapache2-mod-php4, does it install something I can use to test it? |
| 16:45.59 | jeanjacques | aktinos: yes i'm sure that it's the problem |
| 16:46.03 | sussudio | !irritate apogee |
| 16:46.03 | enveezee | apogee: no, make uninstall |
| 16:46.03 | dpkg | apogee: HELP ME!!! how can I make my kanotix werkz lol |
| 16:46.09 | enveezee | apogee: you know the oppisite of make install |
| 16:46.16 | *** join/#debian foka (n=foka@61.49.187.70) |
| 16:46.16 | jeanjacques | aktinos: but can i do ? should i kill it ? |
| 16:46.20 | apogee | enve |
| 16:46.44 | abrotman | jeanjacques: the lockfile ..yes |
| 16:46.52 | *** join/#debian Gliptic (i=glip@c-dd09e455.012-135-76786a11.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 16:46.57 | apogee | enveezee : there is no uninstall option or I don't know how to make uninstall ! |
| 16:46.58 | jeanjacques | abrotman: ok |
| 16:47.30 | enveezee | apogee: you are far too clueless to be downloading, installing, or uninstallign source distributed application |
| 16:48.34 | apogee | enveezee ,yes I am clueless but I followed a procedure described in a book.... |
| 16:49.04 | enveezee | can't believe everything you read |
| 16:49.08 | apogee | enveezee and did it very carefully |
| 16:49.23 | enveezee | especially when using debian and reading non-debianized material |
| 16:49.25 | xst|sPENKMAN | Looking tru this page: http://linux-usb.sourceforge.net/SpeedTouch/firmware/firmware.html i find myself in problems, ./configure goes well, but with make i getting errors "gcc: firmware.c: Onbekend bestand of map \n gcc: no input files \n make: *** [all] Fout 1" Anyone who can give me a hint? :) |
| 16:49.39 | EleckttrusS | Que son paquetes huerfanoS? |
| 16:49.44 | RichiH | !es |
| 16:49.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 16:49.53 | jeanjacques | i'm trying to kill apt-get but i don't know how |
| 16:49.53 | enveezee | I am leading the lunar module... |
| 16:50.08 | jeanjacques | my /var/run folder doesn't have anything dealing with apt-get |
| 16:50.13 | *** join/#debian verxion (n=verxion@ip70-190-201-159.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 16:50.14 | apogee | enveezee my point is..can i get the thing working or not ??? |
| 16:50.25 | afabian | apogee, the program probably just dumped a lot of files off in /usr/local. Find one file, say, the main executable binary, look at the creation time with "find", find all files made at almost exactly the same time and redirect the output to a list, scan the list to make sure all of the files look like they belong to the application, then feed the list to rm. |
| 16:50.26 | *** join/#debian hipodilski (n=hipo@efficiencylaboratory.com) |
| 16:50.29 | enveezee | apogee: my point is I have no fucking clue, this has nothing to do with debian |
| 16:50.35 | *** join/#debian MaMsL (i=MaMsL@incassable.org) |
| 16:50.49 | apogee | enveezee and how do i uninstall...deleting the folder ?? |
| 16:50.53 | hipodilski | hi there which debian package contains the php interpreter? |
| 16:50.53 | *** join/#debian daxStryFe (n=none@62.38.116.213) |
| 16:51.07 | verxion | If there is anyone here using firehol, could you please tell me the safest way to restart it to effect a new firehol.conf file? My plan was to do a: "/etc/init.d/firehol stop;/etc/init.d/firehol start". |
| 16:51.42 | *** join/#debian fireba11 (n=Miranda@p5495B990.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:51.48 | aktinos | jeanjacques: pgrep apt-get |
| 16:51.48 | *** join/#debian gilliat (n=alf@ppp-116-157.24-151.libero.it) |
| 16:51.58 | xst|sPENKMAN | verxion why do u think that is wrong? |
| 16:52.01 | *** join/#debian executive (n=kvirc@p21155-adsau07doujib2-acca.osaka.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 16:52.14 | afabian | apogee, or examine the makefile, see what files it put where, and remove them. |
| 16:52.14 | *** part/#debian MaMsL (i=MaMsL@incassable.org) |
| 16:52.25 | verxion | xst|sPENKMAN: I am remote to the machine and I don't want to lose my connection; additionally I don't want to make my machine vulnerable |
| 16:52.29 | enveezee | afabian: he's oblivious to the concept of make |
| 16:52.52 | enveezee | afabian: its one of the wonders of the world htf he got it isntalled in the first place |
| 16:52.52 | apogee | for afabian : This is what I did.1 uncompressed the zipped to a folder 2.created asymbolink link to it.and added a group named mysql and user mysql. |
| 16:52.58 | *** part/#debian executive (n=kvirc@p21155-adsau07doujib2-acca.osaka.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 16:53.04 | *** join/#debian Tio_Pastafrola (i=Tio_Past@201.250.141.92) |
| 16:53.05 | *** join/#debian chimaera (n=chimaera@p549D2937.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:53.11 | *** join/#debian Fluten (n=scott@206.123.74.30) |
| 16:53.13 | *** join/#debian guiss (n=guiss@host161.201-252-193.telecom.net.ar) |
| 16:53.13 | xst|sPENKMAN | verxion hehe, remote is always a gamble in my point of view ;) |
| 16:53.18 | *** join/#debian freenik (i=nik@port-212-202-168-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 16:53.18 | *** part/#debian Tio_Pastafrola (i=Tio_Past@201.250.141.92) |
| 16:53.41 | verxion | xst|sPENKMAN: I know. Trust me, I do. I haven't ever needed or wanted to restart firehol, so I thought I would ask someone that had done it before |
| 16:53.53 | apogee | I uncompressed a BINARY version so i did NOT make or configure anything |
| 16:54.13 | verxion | xst|sPENKMAN: do you run firehol? |
| 16:54.16 | xst|sPENKMAN | verxion /etc/init.d/firehol reload doesnt work? It only loads the new config (al least it does with apache) |
| 16:54.28 | enveezee | apogee: then you didnt install anything either |
| 16:54.39 | xst|sPENKMAN | I have no experience with it, sorry :P |
| 16:54.51 | enveezee | apogee: you just copied 3rd party binaries to your system , and you just fucking delete them from wherever you put them |
| 16:54.52 | guiss | hi, i am using sarge as a CVS server for a Java project. All clients are writing their text in ISO-8859-1. What i'd like to know is what localization does the server uses (may I use locale -a?) in order to set the right environment variables for eclipse server configuration |
| 16:54.58 | verxion | xst|sPENKMAN: According to http://firehol.sourceforge.net/invoking.html , there is no reload option |
| 16:55.01 | afabian | apogee, if it's all in a single hierarchy, sure, just remove the directory. Long as it didn't use /usr or /usr/local as a prefix, should be fairly well set up for removal. |
| 16:55.12 | apogee | for enveeze: so its okay to delete the folder an d try the installation using synaptic |
| 16:55.23 | enveezee | apogee: that would be a good idea |
| 16:55.24 | *** join/#debian setog3- (n=nseto@lns-bzn-37-82-253-51-113.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 16:55.24 | *** join/#debian Exerd (n=jack@19554150111-SE-INMENTE-OSBY.host.songnetworks.se) |
| 16:55.30 | enveezee | apogee: loose the symlink too |
| 16:55.31 | *** join/#debian peritus (i=peritus@cust.fiber-lan.vnet.lk.212.214.155.34.visit.se) |
| 16:55.31 | verxion | oh well, here goes nothing. . . . Wish me luck. :) |
| 16:55.34 | siezer | anybody in here use fai? |
| 16:55.58 | xst|sPENKMAN | goodluck verxion ;) |
| 16:56.08 | apogee | how to loose the symlink ??? |
| 16:56.20 | *** join/#debian Banana (n=banana@thesard.org) |
| 16:56.20 | peritus | how can i automaticly disable accounts that haven't been used for say, 6 months (no logins)? |
| 16:56.45 | *** join/#debian misantroph (n=misantro@81-231-77-243-no25.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 16:56.55 | valdyn | guiss: i'd doubt that the server uses any encoding, it just writes what it gets. IF you use a funny locale on that system though, doing 'ls' or 'cat somefile' might yield garbled ( non-asci characters displayed wrongly ) output |
| 16:57.14 | *** part/#debian N0S3 (n=Admin@host239.201-252-220.telecom.net.ar) |
| 16:57.38 | *** join/#debian roche (n=roche@nat1.inalambrica.net) |
| 16:57.46 | haxoor | can someone help me to make latest testing work? |
| 16:57.58 | haxoor | I don't find the way to install X system |
| 16:58.08 | guiss | valdyn, the thing is that windows clients running eclipse have no problems. The 2 linux clients see weird characters when trying to merge a file |
| 16:58.16 | *** part/#debian dusk (i=d@24.63.143.116) |
| 16:58.38 | TheCount | hm. was sollte man statt strtok() benutzen? |
| 16:58.41 | apogee | for afabian :used ln -s mysqlsommevesion mysql to make the link ,,,how do i remove it???? |
| 16:58.45 | TheCount | whoosp. |
| 16:58.46 | valdyn | guiss: the linux clients should use ISO-8859-1 too naturally |
| 16:58.59 | *** join/#debian Netwolf (n=bdelbono@2001:618:400:0:0:0:1856:11a) |
| 16:58.59 | TheCount | what should I use instead of strtok()? |
| 16:59.04 | valdyn | guiss: ( or convert to/from that to whatever they use ) |
| 16:59.25 | guiss | valdyn, thanks a lot, now i have some clues |
| 17:00.03 | AndroFlux | Does upgrading a package in Debian-testing (or -unstable, I gess) require that all its dependencies also be upgraded? Or is it possible to upgrade just one package? |
| 17:00.04 | afabian | apogee, a symbolic link is just a file. Remove it with rm. |
| 17:00.04 | valdyn | guiss: I have NO idea how cvs handles this, but its age suggests that it just doesnt 'encode' at all. ( as explained above ) |
| 17:00.31 | apogee | so its :rm mysql ??? |
| 17:01.18 | guiss | valdyn, so it must be some problem with the linux clients and their encodings (they are 2 ubuntu using utf8) |
| 17:01.27 | apogee | its not working ....can't remove mysql no such file or dir |
| 17:01.31 | valdyn | guiss: oh and finally, code shouldnt use non-asci characters at all ( imo ) |
| 17:01.42 | valdyn | guiss: yea |
| 17:01.50 | guiss | valdyn, honestly, i am quite dissoriented with this encoding things |
| 17:01.59 | xst|sPENKMAN | Who wants to mentor me during the install of a speedtouch USB modem? I have (small) problems |
| 17:01.59 | peritus | how can i automaticly disable accounts that haven't been used for say, 6 months (no logins)? |
| 17:02.07 | thingfish | AndroFlux: it depends on the package, really. |
| 17:02.24 | valdyn | guiss: asci ( all characters encoded by 0-127 ) are identical on everyone of those encodings. |
| 17:02.29 | thingfish | if it has deps, yes, they'll have to be installed. |
| 17:02.41 | *** join/#debian Rtz_ (n=lithit@84.15.37.214) |
| 17:02.42 | thingfish | if it doesn't have any deps, you can install just it alone. |
| 17:03.19 | guiss | valdyn, the software is in spanish, so there are some á, é, etc |
| 17:03.46 | valdyn | guiss: yea, thats not covered by 0-127, and thus its different depending on which encodeing you use |
| 17:04.09 | valdyn | guiss: source code shouldnt use that though =/ |
| 17:04.11 | *** join/#debian mrkofee (n=mrkofee@p54B219A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:04.28 | guiss | valdyn, it isn't source code, they are the key values for column headers and that |
| 17:04.31 | *** join/#debian SSL (i=Zeggeh@ppp-49-110-217-212.dialup.iam.net.ma) |
| 17:04.39 | valdyn | guiss: i see |
| 17:05.04 | guiss | valdyn, so, i try using iso8859 in ubuntu and see what happens |
| 17:05.15 | valdyn | guiss: -1 |
| 17:05.17 | *** join/#debian Acalanatha (n=Acalanat@218.18.51.8) |
| 17:05.32 | *** join/#debian Doduquelo (n=kurumin@201.11.98.198) |
| 17:06.09 | valdyn | guiss: maybe cvs has infrastucture to support that too |
| 17:06.13 | enveezee | I cant believe its been two hours since T. Called me and told me he was on his way home right now |
| 17:06.25 | enveezee | even more I cant believe the mofo didnt call me yet |
| 17:06.27 | *** part/#debian Acalanatha (n=Acalanat@218.18.51.8) |
| 17:07.19 | enveezee | I need to go for a walk or else I am going to end up going to sleep and being pissed off about him again. The most reliably unreliable SOB I know |
| 17:07.36 | *** join/#debian blame (n=eXqUiSiT@212-104-109-43.cable.evrocom.net) |
| 17:07.42 | jbroome | i may be new here, but why do we care? |
| 17:07.59 | enveezee | look at it from my point of view.. |
| 17:08.11 | valdyn | !whine |
| 17:08.12 | dpkg | it has been said that whine is saying "I want you to hold my hand while I install debian because I'm too lazy to read the docs!" |
| 17:08.20 | enveezee | I got off work 8am, its 12 noon.. I am bored out of my mind, with nobody to talk to but you :P |
| 17:08.25 | *** join/#debian k_deft (i=bind@85.206.87.226) |
| 17:08.36 | jbroome | great |
| 17:08.50 | enveezee | my one friend says hes comming home early on the count of the rain, and 2 hours later I am still talking bullshit here |
| 17:08.52 | *** join/#debian mrkofee (n=mrkofee@p54B219A4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:08.52 | *** join/#debian wersh (i=matt@24-176-72-051.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 17:09.02 | apogee | for afabian :symlink and zip removed ,how can I remove the grup and users ??? |
| 17:09.24 | wersh | hi guys i have two soundcards .. none seem to be working now , i did alsaconf it said no pnp or pci card found. |
| 17:09.27 | enveezee | I would be asleep already.. but the fucker told me he was comming home |
| 17:09.46 | peritus | how can i automaticly disable accounts that haven't been used for say, 6 months (no logins)? |
| 17:10.30 | valdyn | peritus: have you used google? |
| 17:10.46 | wersh | can anyone help me? |
| 17:10.52 | *** join/#debian alexscott (n=alexscot@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 17:10.52 | fbi | wersh: run lspci |
| 17:11.12 | peritus | valdyn: yeah |
| 17:11.29 | wersh | i see Multimedia controller, Creative Labs SB Audigy LS |
| 17:11.44 | fbi | wersh: kernel version |
| 17:11.46 | wersh | and my other one(which is my onboard) |
| 17:11.53 | peritus | valdyn: you know how? |
| 17:11.54 | wersh | default, 2.4.. new install. |
| 17:12.15 | fbi | wersh: install alsa-modules for your specific 2.4 kernel, or install a 2.6 kernel |
| 17:12.18 | *** join/#debian ViaD (n=Via--DDD@084202071237.customer.alfanett.no) |
| 17:12.28 | *** join/#debian NullAcht15 (n=NullAcht@dslb-082-083-214-035.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:12.34 | wersh | fbi, via apt-get? |
| 17:12.38 | fbi | wersh: yes |
| 17:12.49 | *** join/#debian harleyg (n=harleyg@82-44-218-103.cable.ubr10.haye.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:12.58 | valdyn | peritus: no, i just looked something up tho, man usermod, / expire |
| 17:13.40 | valdyn | peritus: not exactly what you want htough.. |
| 17:14.06 | wersh | fbi, it said that alsa-based replaced it.. and it's already installed. |
| 17:14.07 | guiss | valdyn, i exported an iso locale and ran eclipse from that console and everything worked, seems that eclipse override its own locale settings |
| 17:14.16 | peritus | valdyn: well i guess i could write a script that runs every night and look at peoples last login and disable the accounts |
| 17:14.49 | fbi | wersh: then you may need a kernel from etch that has newer alsa soundcard drivers, check the alsa homepage |
| 17:15.02 | *** join/#debian jokin (n=taziolo@ACaen-251-1-23-35.w83-115.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:15.15 | *** join/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:15.53 | *** part/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:15.53 | *** join/#debian nebular (n=Neb@Toronto-HSE-ppp3704422.sympatico.ca) |
| 17:16.05 | wersh | ill try 2.6 kernel |
| 17:16.35 | peritus | valdyn: well, i write a script, it does not seems to be too complicated. thanks anyway |
| 17:17.19 | nebular | I just installed testing and when I startup eith0 doesn't enable automatically and I have to run ifup eth0 manually, what needs to be changed to get it working? |
| 17:17.28 | valdyn | peritus: i'd rather modify the expire date on each login, but i still think there got to be a solution somewhere.. |
| 17:17.48 | peritus | valdyn: uhm, yeah that would work too |
| 17:18.07 | peritus | valdyn: yeah, thats a nicer solution |
| 17:20.30 | *** part/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 17:20.36 | *** join/#debian ldonesty (n=ldonesty@85-18-14-18.fastres.net) |
| 17:23.05 | *** join/#debian Nava (n=kvirc@201-27-41-161.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 17:23.19 | Nava | hi |
| 17:23.27 | *** join/#debian Kluster_v2 (n=Kluster_@modemcable193.60-202-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 17:23.35 | Nava | i need a good cources.list for debian sarge |
| 17:23.48 | Nava | who have? |
| 17:23.48 | *** join/#debian gino (n=gino@ANice-152-1-46-173.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:24.01 | gino | hello |
| 17:24.02 | Ronin | Nava: you already have it apt-setup |
| 17:24.11 | Nava | ok |
| 17:24.24 | Nava | i use a sources of ubuntu breeze |
| 17:24.24 | *** join/#debian LootBeer (i=1000@cm134.omega17.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 17:24.25 | Nava | omg |
| 17:24.35 | *** join/#debian TehFox (i=tehfox@AToulon-151-1-97-59.w86-200.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:24.39 | Ronin | now theres a bad idea, ubuntu sources on a debian install |
| 17:24.42 | gino | please do you know an equivallent to Ksysv in gnome ? |
| 17:24.53 | Nava | hmm |
| 17:24.54 | Nava | ok |
| 17:24.58 | Nava | let me try |
| 17:25.16 | *** join/#debian Everton_Carpes (n=Everton_@201.10.58.28) |
| 17:25.16 | gino | because i want to desactivate ypbind at boot |
| 17:25.47 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p5784813C.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:25.59 | *** part/#debian DHGE_ (n=eduard@i577A02C1.versanet.de) |
| 17:26.08 | Nava | nice ronin!!! |
| 17:26.12 | Nava | thanks a lot |
| 17:26.14 | *** join/#debian cmdKeen (n=yac@ova-84-242-95-93.nat.karneval.cz) |
| 17:26.29 | NullAcht15 | where can I get a good sources.list for Debian stable? |
| 17:26.32 | *** join/#debian menace (n=stop@unaffiliated/menace) |
| 17:26.42 | Nava | try apt-setup |
| 17:26.51 | Ronin | Nava: show off ;) |
| 17:26.52 | Lee__ | what program has replaced mkraid? it doesn't appear to exist in sarge. |
| 17:27.39 | fbi | !find raid sarge |
| 17:27.45 | EleckttrusS | help me |
| 17:27.56 | EleckttrusS | i have vmware |
| 17:28.02 | Lee__ | fbi, it's not in there. |
| 17:28.03 | Nava | the gpg block my sources!!!! |
| 17:28.06 | EleckttrusS | i need install vmware |
| 17:28.07 | *** join/#debian AlphaOmega (n=alphaome@adsl-2-113-154.mia.bellsouth.net) |
| 17:28.14 | EleckttrusS | i dont no |
| 17:28.18 | Nava | how i disable then |
| 17:28.27 | fbi | Lee__: raidtools or dmraid (i think) |
| 17:28.47 | *** join/#debian FarrisG (n=jrush@h-68-164-19-170.dllatx37.covad.net) |
| 17:28.50 | Ronin | EleckttrusS: i dont know what your trying to do |
| 17:29.21 | *** part/#debian Jacky^ (n=Jacky^@d83-176-29-193.cust.tele2.it) |
| 17:29.22 | cmdKeen | Is there some something-like-glx-setup utility ? glxinfo says no direct rendering, but it just seems there are old settings(i have replaced graphic card). what can i do ? |
| 17:29.33 | EleckttrusS | Ronin: a need install vmware becosu i dont no |
| 17:29.37 | apogee | is there a good Debian 3.1 PDF BOOK for download ?? |
| 17:29.41 | FarrisG | what's the command to find out which deb package a command came from? |
| 17:29.46 | Ronin | EleckttrusS: tried in vmwares channel? |
| 17:29.52 | *** join/#debian MoDaXaS (i=jgcljr@212.122.71.78) |
| 17:30.08 | EleckttrusS | Ronin: ok |
| 17:30.27 | *** join/#debian Loof (n=loof@pcp04983382pcs.cstltn01.in.comcast.net) |
| 17:30.28 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'raid' (4 of 15): (/etc/init.d/mdadm-raid) in admin/mdadm ;; (/etc/init.d/mdctl-raid) in admin/mdctl ;; (/etc/udev/scripts/raid-devfs.sh) in admin/udev ;; (/etc/logwatch/conf/services/raid.conf) in admin/logwatch. |
| 17:30.46 | valdyn | cmdKeen: what is your gfx card, which driver are you using? |
| 17:30.52 | *** join/#debian zly (n=zly@D40A7F40.rev.stofanet.dk) |
| 17:30.58 | Loof | Heya, how do I get lvm to see a (damaged) disk on /dev/uba(1). The disk seems fine, but LVM is skipping the /dev/ub* disks. |
| 17:31.16 | *** join/#debian AciD (n=gni@tehpwnz.org) |
| 17:31.20 | Loof | Either that, or how can I bypass LVM to get to the (simple) reiserfs volume inside it. |
| 17:31.37 | Lee__ | how the hell do I initialize a raid array that's already defined in /etc/raidtab? |
| 17:31.53 | krusaf | bsr |
| 17:32.23 | valdyn | !raidtab |
| 17:32.32 | cmdKeen | valdyn, some dman old MGA, but i installed debian on this damn old PC and it worked itself, but now I am using hdd with linux from other PC, so I suppose I just need to update some configuration... |
| 17:32.39 | *** join/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:32.49 | Lee__ | this is getting weird... |
| 17:33.22 | valdyn | !drxx cmdKeen |
| 17:33.23 | dpkg | cmdKeen: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:33.33 | ced_ | hello |
| 17:33.50 | cmdKeen | valdyn, I did hat many times, but it don't work. |
| 17:33.56 | *** join/#debian PattonPending (n=frankizo@MOBILEFRANK.RES.cmu.edu) |
| 17:33.59 | Nava | tha gpg key block my sources!!!! |
| 17:34.09 | Ronin | Nava: pardon? |
| 17:34.09 | valdyn | cmdKeen: how are you expecting me to help if you do not provide info? |
| 17:34.10 | *** part/#debian ced_ (n=ced@208-115.240.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:34.17 | valdyn | cmdKeen: so far all i know is that you use some matrox card. |
| 17:34.19 | Nava | a get messages |
| 17:34.28 | *** part/#debian NullAcht15 (n=NullAcht@dslb-082-083-214-035.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 17:34.29 | Nava | wait |
| 17:34.34 | Nava | let me see |
| 17:34.34 | *** part/#debian MadSpeedy (n=madspeed@212.58.160.39) |
| 17:34.37 | *** join/#debian Van-atwork (n=network@205.151.163.28) |
| 17:34.37 | *** join/#debian borowitsch (n=borowits@83.215.199.231) |
| 17:34.53 | valdyn | cmdKeen: grep -i driver /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 17:35.10 | mirak | hi |
| 17:35.16 | mirak | anyone familiar with LVM here ? |
| 17:35.39 | mirak | I was wondering if LVM was able to relocate data of a logical volume |
| 17:35.45 | mirak | on the drive |
| 17:35.49 | *** join/#debian streuner (i=foobar@p54A5E36D.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:36.26 | *** join/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.166.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 17:36.35 | AciD | mirak > you mean being able to find on which physical drive the data are ? |
| 17:36.49 | cmdKeen | valdyn, I don;t know what ifno do you need. well, I have fglrx installed, but xorf driver set to mga. It works fine, xv runs fine to, but DR not. Glxinfo says 'client glx vendor string: ATI'... |
| 17:37.00 | *** join/#debian phar0z (n=debian@ip-81-11-174-164.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 17:37.13 | *** join/#debian ubik` (n=ubik@p50923366.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:37.39 | valdyn | cmdKeen: so you are using an ATI glx with a matrox card? |
| 17:38.05 | valdyn | cmdKeen: how did you install fglrx ? |
| 17:38.09 | *** join/#debian zinosat (n=Davide@host236-93.pool8260.interbusiness.it) |
| 17:38.32 | mirak | AciD: no I mean for exemple, if you have a phisical volume on one drive with / of 10G and /home of 100G. If you decide to increase / size you must reduce /home, then increase /. But then / is spread at the begining and the end of the drive. So I was wondering if LVM was able to move partitions in fact |
| 17:38.32 | *** join/#debian hebfftijd (n=mcl@30.186-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 17:38.51 | valdyn | cmdKeen: if you are using xorg then, run grep -i driver /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:39.40 | Nava | tha gpg key block my sources!!!! |
| 17:39.42 | AciD | mirak > I dunno that |
| 17:39.44 | Nava | Ronin |
| 17:39.58 | Nava | i catch this msg |
| 17:39.59 | cmdKeen | valdyn, no, I just have that card for a short time, i don't want to install all those fglrx things again, so I just switched driver through drxx to mga. Hey, I know where my x configuration file is:) as I said, driver is mga |
| 17:40.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 786] by debhelper |
| 17:40.14 | *** join/#debian shiyee (n=Shiyee@0x555146e5.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 17:40.19 | valdyn | cmdKeen: how did you install fglrx ? |
| 17:40.24 | Nava | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: Couldn't access keyring |
| 17:40.45 | *** join/#debian eleftherios (n=elefther@unaffiliated/eleftherios) |
| 17:40.45 | Nava | how i disable the gpg check? |
| 17:40.57 | *** part/#debian pmdboi (i=cwillmor@mac1.genomics.purdue.edu) |
| 17:41.04 | *** join/#debian ciaron (n=soth@cpc2-broo4-4-0-cust90.renf.cable.ntl.com) |
| 17:41.49 | enveezee | Nava: why not just satisfy it |
| 17:41.53 | cmdKeen | valdyn, sorry. I converted ATI rpm package with alien and compiled kernel module. |
| 17:42.07 | enveezee | dpkg, tell Nava about marillat key |
| 17:42.21 | *** join/#debian Benton (n=Benton@p50891CC3.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:42.31 | valdyn | cmdKeen: that is what i feared.. |
| 17:42.43 | cmdKeen | valdyn, non-debian way i suppose ? |
| 17:43.03 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:43.31 | valdyn | cmdKeen: you should remove that package, and you might have to reinstall debian packages that installing that aliened deb overwrote. I cant help you with taht really |
| 17:43.45 | *** join/#debian GloX (i=glox@d51A4A68C.access.telenet.be) |
| 17:43.55 | GloX | I seem to have lost /etc/init.d/vsftpd |
| 17:44.00 | *** part/#debian bend-a (n=juergens@isf218.isf.RWTH-Aachen.DE) |
| 17:44.06 | GloX | tried reinstalling it (remove, install), but doesn't seem to come back |
| 17:44.13 | jan_ | GloX: dom van je :P |
| 17:44.15 | *** join/#debian StevenR (n=foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 17:44.20 | GloX | idd |
| 17:44.21 | valdyn | cmdKeen: if just removing that package fixes things.. lucky you ) |
| 17:44.30 | jan_ | GloX: try --purge while removing |
| 17:44.36 | cmdKeen | valdyn, I tryied flavio's packages, but there wasn't for kernel I have, and I updated udev so I can't use another... well, that's what I was afraid of:) |
| 17:44.45 | Nava | :) |
| 17:44.50 | *** join/#debian travisat (n=travisat@unaffiliated/travisat) |
| 17:44.53 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-11-32.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:45.03 | GloX | thanks |
| 17:45.11 | *** join/#debian charlotte (n=johnnyss@LIV.tun.saunalahti.fi) |
| 17:45.14 | charlotte | hi |
| 17:45.22 | PattonPending | hi |
| 17:45.35 | charlotte | how do I change the default root= option in grub? |
| 17:45.38 | cmdKeen | valdyn, in that case, I'll wait till my poor radeon is back;) thanks for your time |
| 17:45.41 | mirak | I got a problem with X crashed |
| 17:45.46 | mirak | I was talking about LVM to somebody, who is it I don't remember ? :D |
| 17:46.22 | valdyn | cmdKeen: after installing flavios driver source package ( whatever that one might be called ), creating a custom kernel modules is as much as "apt-get install install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i fglrx" |
| 17:46.29 | PattonPending | charlotte: so that a different kernel/os loads up by default (other than the top one) |
| 17:46.30 | jbroome | wow |
| 17:46.47 | PattonPending | charlotte: there's a couple things |
| 17:46.48 | charlotte | so that when I install a new kernel with apt so is it root=/dev/sda1 automatically instead of root=/dev/hdc1 |
| 17:47.09 | PattonPending | ah |
| 17:47.12 | *** join/#debian travisat_ (n=travisat@unaffiliated/travisat) |
| 17:47.31 | valdyn | charlotte: you edit the line that contains 'kopt' and run 'update-grub' |
| 17:47.46 | charlotte | ok thanks I will try that :) |
| 17:47.58 | *** join/#debian soulreaper_ (i=b@p54A661D8.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 17:48.10 | Nava | i need to disable the gpg check in apt-get update... |
| 17:48.20 | Nava | how? |
| 17:48.22 | valdyn | Nava: why do you? |
| 17:48.34 | valdyn | Nava: hitting 'y' is to hard? |
| 17:48.37 | Nava | disable the gpg check |
| 17:48.42 | Nava | no |
| 17:48.46 | Nava | wait |
| 17:48.49 | cmdKeen | valdyn, well, I avoided my own compilations, because everyone said "Do it Debian way if you can." so I can/t do that without help. Resp. I am too lazy to STFW again;) |
| 17:49.00 | Nava | W: GPG error: http://ftp.br.debian.org stable Release: Couldn't access keyring: |
| 17:49.09 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 17:49.19 | Nava | itz nothing to "y" |
| 17:49.24 | Nava | durrrrr |
| 17:49.26 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:49.31 | stew | Nava: /msg dpkg apt secure |
| 17:49.38 | *** join/#debian Andale (i=andale@host179-59.pool871.interbusiness.it) |
| 17:49.41 | Nava | ok |
| 17:49.44 | *** join/#debian efaistos (n=efaistos@m163.net81-64-227.noos.fr) |
| 17:49.45 | Nava | let me see |
| 17:49.59 | *** join/#debian sloncho (n=chatzill@216.17.90.91) |
| 17:50.05 | *** join/#debian toprak (n=sohbet@81.215.88.131) |
| 17:50.38 | zerve_the_death | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:50.38 | charlotte | valdyn thanks that worked fine :) |
| 17:50.45 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:50.50 | Nava | stew |
| 17:50.52 | *** join/#debian travisat_ (n=travisat@unaffiliated/travisat) |
| 17:50.54 | Nava | comando not found |
| 17:51.05 | stew | !tell Nava about apt secure |
| 17:51.19 | *** part/#debian Geekbr (n=danilo@200.228.4.130) |
| 17:51.30 | *** part/#debian Andale (i=andale@host179-59.pool871.interbusiness.it) |
| 17:51.54 | *** join/#debian penguin__ (n=penguin@adsl-68-77-28-102.dsl.emhril.ameritech.net) |
| 17:52.23 | grendal_prime | anyone any good with open embedded |
| 17:52.25 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 17:52.39 | *** join/#debian cluter (i=apache@ua-83-227-153-76.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 17:52.44 | grendal_prime | i got this issue with my zaurus and linking...its driving me crazy |
| 17:52.59 | grendal_prime | nobody in #openzaurus seems to know how to deal with it |
| 17:53.33 | cluter | which environment variable controlls which is the path for shared libz? |
| 17:53.36 | grendal_prime | ldconfig: /opt/QTPalmtop/lib/libinterfaces.so.1 is not a symbolic link |
| 17:54.12 | sloncho | hi. debian sarge x86. clean install. apt-get to week ago. for some reason, adter some time it looses it's network connection. network restart shows failure to initialize dhcp. the dhcp server is working, non of the other machines there has this problem. rebooting the system does not help, same problem, fails on dhcp, i.e. it broadcasts the request, i checked that the server received and... |
| 17:54.14 | sloncho | ...responded, but the debian box did not get it. if i powercycle the machine, on first boot everything is ok. even if i restart the network it succeeds to requery the dhcp. but after some time (maybe day-2), it just lost the connection. any clues whre/what to check? |
| 17:54.25 | sloncho | adter=after |
| 17:54.43 | *** join/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 17:55.06 | *** join/#debian yure (n=yure@dhcp-212-235-229-194.sd.uni-lj.si) |
| 17:55.09 | *** join/#debian SpeS (n=lagarto@183.Red-83-60-211.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:55.12 | *** join/#debian Bludwolf (n=john@c-67-161-145-127.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 17:55.19 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 17:55.26 | *** part/#debian Nava (n=kvirc@201-27-41-161.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 17:55.41 | *** join/#debian floris (n=florisjr@200-153-218-174.dsl.telesp.net.br) |
| 17:56.08 | *** join/#debian b00mer (n=b00mer@65.205.18.2) |
| 17:56.30 | floris | hello of all members... |
| 17:56.43 | *** join/#debian phaedrus_ (n=phaedrus@cpe-72-224-172-58.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 17:56.50 | yure | hi, although i have the snd-pcm-oss module loaded, i don't seem to have /dev/dsp, any clues? |
| 17:57.28 | stew | yure: you use udev? |
| 17:57.49 | *** join/#debian chrysopa (n=ronaldo@rotent.cpd.ufv.br) |
| 17:58.38 | yure | stew yes |
| 17:58.39 | AciD | anybody in unstable have to mount their /home directory by hand at the startup ? (since one day) |
| 17:58.44 | *** part/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 17:58.45 | chrysopa | how to access an appletalk net? |
| 17:58.55 | yure | i have 2.6. kernel |
| 18:00.04 | yure | i first had a problem when snd-pcm-oss wasn't loaded, but after i put it in /etc/modules, it worked for a few days, it now misteriousley dissapeared |
| 18:00.32 | yure | could it be due to conflict with some other module (i installed usb mouse, kbd,...) |
| 18:00.35 | chrysopa | exist any program like the samba programs for appletalk |
| 18:00.51 | *** join/#debian keikoz (n=keikoz@vol75-6-82-227-148-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:01.06 | *** join/#debian tico26 (n=tico26@mail.us.pharm-olam.com) |
| 18:01.09 | *** join/#debian TerminX (n=terminx@terminx.envision7.com) |
| 18:01.18 | *** join/#debian xst|sPENKMAN (n=spenkman@ip3e830990.speed.planet.nl) |
| 18:03.38 | *** join/#debian wersh (i=matt@24-176-72-051.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 18:03.57 | wersh | is there a way to view what files are in a .deb? |
| 18:04.21 | enveezee | wersh: with dpkg |
| 18:04.30 | abrotman | enveezee: i listened! |
| 18:04.39 | *** join/#debian usn (n=usn@p54B5A242.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:04.57 | *** join/#debian sha1sum (n=sha1sum@unaffiliated/md5sum) |
| 18:05.00 | enveezee | wersh: -c or --contents |
| 18:05.05 | enveezee | abrotman: listened? |
| 18:05.09 | abrotman | enveezee: i listened! |
| 18:05.13 | PattonPending | anyone else heard of problems with ndiswrapper and kernel 2.6.12? |
| 18:05.18 | enveezee | abrotman: to what? |
| 18:05.23 | abrotman | a song ... |
| 18:05.25 | *** join/#debian b0xii (i=b0xii@pool-68-238-111-96.dfw.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 18:05.28 | wersh | enveezee: thanks. |
| 18:05.29 | enveezee | good for you |
| 18:05.31 | abrotman | hehe |
| 18:05.37 | enveezee | I think I'll listen to one too |
| 18:05.59 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.59.56) |
| 18:07.10 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (n=bjoern@d025117.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 18:07.31 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 18:07.52 | *** part/#debian wersh (i=matt@24-176-72-051.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 18:08.39 | *** join/#debian Agrajag- (n=filip@c211-30-4-5.artrmn1.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 18:08.51 | fbi | alsa is the devil |
| 18:09.07 | yang_ | how do i forward port 80 from 192.168.1.1 to 192.168.1.3 port 80 ? |
| 18:09.13 | cmdKeen | fbi, write your own sound driver then |
| 18:09.25 | fbi | why, i'd rather buy an old soundcard and stick with oss |
| 18:09.31 | *** join/#debian acad (n=sd@156.12.13.5) |
| 18:09.33 | *** join/#debian Zitter (n=danilo@151.56.195.78) |
| 18:09.35 | enveezee | cmdKeen: which one? |
| 18:09.41 | enveezee | there were like 7 of them |
| 18:09.44 | acad | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:09.50 | cmdKeen | enveezee, 4 |
| 18:09.51 | abrotman | yang_: #iptables |
| 18:09.52 | *** join/#debian fluxi (i=fluxi@130-225.245.81.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 18:10.02 | *** join/#debian Knorrie (n=knorrie@confide.csrdelft.nl) |
| 18:10.03 | Zitter | hi, do you know which driver I have to load to use this ISA bridge: Intel Corp. 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) ? TIA |
| 18:10.12 | enveezee | I couldnt imagine playing Commander Keen these days |
| 18:10.16 | abrotman | it's for ISA .. do you have any ISA cards ?> |
| 18:10.17 | cmdKeen | fbi, why ?! |
| 18:10.23 | enveezee | and I love old games |
| 18:10.25 | acad | i want to upgrade php because of some security issues i'm concerned about. i did apt-get install apache, how would i do it for php? |
| 18:10.36 | *** join/#debian TheTerror (n=TheTerro@86.106.134.71) |
| 18:10.40 | abrotman | acad: which security issues ? |
| 18:10.43 | enveezee | Commander Keen just isnt what I call a classic |
| 18:10.53 | fbi | why what? oss just works, that's why. you install sarge, and blam. sound works. alsa makes everything more complicated than it needs to be. |
| 18:10.54 | *** join/#debian hyksos (n=bob@p54AED359.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:11.04 | *** join/#debian marcelogpl (n=marcelo@201008020178.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 18:11.25 | *** join/#debian trinity (i=vivian0@cm98.epsilon138.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 18:11.44 | *** part/#debian marcelogpl (n=marcelo@201008020178.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 18:11.47 | abrotman | acad: which security issues ? |
| 18:11.54 | fbi | you can't even buy brand new soundblaster live 5.1 cards anymore, and you need to run a testing kernel in order to run the new soundblaster 7.1 |
| 18:11.59 | acad | abrotman, i don't know. i read about a recent worm or somthing a few min ago. |
| 18:12.04 | *** join/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 18:12.07 | abrotman | acad: yes .. dpkg -l php4 |
| 18:12.58 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 18:13.07 | abrotman | rather ... |
| 18:13.13 | abrotman | acad: dpkg -l php4 | tail -1 |
| 18:13.34 | *** join/#debian typewriter (n=w8@unaffiliated/typewriter) |
| 18:13.40 | enveezee | I cant seem to chat and listen to music at the same time well |
| 18:13.47 | typewriter | what are other free antivirus app in debian pkgs ? |
| 18:13.54 | typewriter | besides clamav |
| 18:13.55 | enveezee | New Frontier ended and I dont remember even hearing it |
| 18:13.55 | *** join/#debian nakeee (n=nakee@tenar.cs.huji.ac.il) |
| 18:14.07 | acad | abrotman thats gona list package information |
| 18:14.09 | abrotman | apt-cache search |
| 18:14.16 | nakeee | udev conflicting hotplug is a bug in testing or a feature? |
| 18:14.17 | abrotman | acad: i'm well aware of what it does .. please show it to me |
| 18:14.29 | abrotman | nakeee: DD retardedness |
| 18:14.38 | acad | php4? what do you want to see |
| 18:14.45 | abrotman | the version .. the line .. just show me |
| 18:14.59 | enveezee | I thought udev was a bug |
| 18:15.06 | *** part/#debian PattonPending (n=frankizo@MOBILEFRANK.RES.cmu.edu) |
| 18:15.06 | TheTerror | hey i've got quite a problem can anybody help please? the box is refusing all possible connections, the only thing still working is ip forwarding.. any ideeas? |
| 18:15.07 | cmdKeen | fbi, oh... alsa-config always worked great for me. but if you say so.... |
| 18:15.19 | abrotman | alsa can be a royal pain |
| 18:15.21 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-11-32.w82-121.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:15.26 | fbi | uh, what is alsa-config, and what does that have to do with what i said? |
| 18:15.54 | fbi | you're missing the whole point. i don't want to run etch, or a kernel from etch, in order to get my sound working. |
| 18:16.02 | fbi | oss just works. |
| 18:16.12 | *** join/#debian jmhal (n=jmarcelo@200.19.190.180) |
| 18:16.14 | *** part/#debian TheTerror (n=TheTerro@86.106.134.71) |
| 18:16.20 | *** part/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 18:16.45 | enveezee | The purest aluminum people are walking the streets of london, so hysterical. Nobody here gets a word that I say, and the problems I'm told are more than medical. I got a friend from the new frontier, in galen she says "this is not america". You need a girl with electrical hair, and the word that you wanted was Al - U - Mini - Um. |
| 18:16.45 | *** join/#debian OzMoSiS (n=PoWa@host245-172.pool8255.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:16.46 | abrotman | fbi: FSVO works |
| 18:16.54 | fbi | !fsvo |
| 18:16.55 | dpkg | it has been said that fsvo is For Some Values Of. For Small Values Of |
| 18:16.59 | fbi | ? |
| 18:17.13 | abrotman | fbi: try recording while listening with OSS |
| 18:17.19 | acad | i'll have to fix it later- php4 isn't showing a version number for me |
| 18:17.26 | abrotman | that's what finally pushed me to alsa |
| 18:17.31 | abrotman | acad: do you even have PHP installed ? |
| 18:17.35 | abrotman | acad: dpkg -l | grep php |
| 18:17.44 | fbi | abrotman: i don't do any recording, oss works fine for mixing audio files |
| 18:17.51 | abrotman | yes it does |
| 18:17.51 | enveezee | ALSA being included in 2.6 and not being a PIMA to setup is what switched me |
| 18:17.52 | *** join/#debian stephen_ (n=stephen@208.50.96.2) |
| 18:18.00 | acad | i do, i imagine, i am using php on my site |
| 18:18.04 | abrotman | acad: dpkg -l | grep php |
| 18:18.09 | sloncho | hi. debian stable x86. clean install. apt-get to week ago. for some reason, after some time it looses it's network connection. network restart shows failure to initialize dhcp. the dhcp server is working, non of the other machines there has this problem. rebooting the system does not help, same problem, fails on dhcp, i.e. it broadcasts the request, i checked that the server received and... |
| 18:18.11 | sloncho | ...responded, but the debian box did not get it. if i powercycle the machine, on first boot everything is ok. even if i restart the network it succeeds to requery the dhcp. but after some time (maybe day-2), it just lost the connection. any clues where/what to check? |
| 18:18.12 | abrotman | acad: which php packages are installed ? |
| 18:18.14 | enveezee | its used to be obvious to use OSS when you had to do all that extra work to use also |
| 18:18.26 | stouset | Argh. Is anyone else having severe problems with udev? |
| 18:18.31 | enveezee | ALSA is still slightly more work, but its a lot easier |
| 18:18.38 | abrotman | stouset: argh! .. Md is a PITA :) |
| 18:18.48 | travisat_ | enveezee: aliminum people, and girls with electric hair? what world do you live in? the neoworld of fiction, or the drug-induced world of hallucination? |
| 18:18.54 | acad | abrotman it didn't find php |
| 18:18.58 | *** join/#debian sbk (n=user@mta.snapfish.com) |
| 18:18.59 | abrotman | acad: at all ? |
| 18:18.59 | stouset | abrotman: Md? |
| 18:19.02 | enveezee | travisat_: the New Frontier |
| 18:19.08 | acad | nope, it did give errors for php4 |
| 18:19.21 | abrotman | acad: then either you've compiled PHP from source .. or odn't have PHP installed .. if the former .. ask #php if you need to upgrade |
| 18:19.21 | fbi | enveezee: alsa is _very_ easy to set up, but it sucks that i have to upgrade my kernel, or my entire system just to get a kernel that has the alsa driver for my soundcard built in |
| 18:19.29 | enveezee | travisat_: ever heard of figures of speech? metaphoes? similies? ... etc |
| 18:19.33 | abrotman | !maint udev |
| 18:19.33 | travisat_ | enveezee: the New Fronteir ended 150 years ago |
| 18:19.39 | dpkg | udev: Marco d'Itri <md@linux.it> |
| 18:19.46 | acad | abrotman interesting- it's definatly installed from package |
| 18:19.47 | fbi | i wish you could patch a 2.6 sarge kernel with the newest alsa drivers |
| 18:19.49 | enveezee | travisat_: when you stopped taking spelling lessons right? |
| 18:19.52 | acad | i'll figure it out later |
| 18:19.54 | enveezee | !yinzersmite travisat_ |
| 18:20.02 | abrotman | acad: but `dpkg -l | grep php` finds nothing ? |
| 18:20.11 | acad | yea, it finds nothing |
| 18:20.12 | acad | ohh wait |
| 18:20.13 | *** join/#debian wolf__ (n=wolf@81.10.79.162) |
| 18:20.13 | *** join/#debian wersh (i=matt@24-176-72-051.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 18:20.15 | acad | i did that wrong |
| 18:20.17 | travisat_ | enveezee: you are one to talk about spelling lessons |
| 18:20.22 | wersh | in which package is xlib/xfree86 devel? |
| 18:20.25 | *** join/#debian fuso (n=bhjk@u216-2.udal.afb.lu.se) |
| 18:20.25 | acad | php4-common |
| 18:20.29 | enveezee | travisat_: heh, consider that a major diss from a yinzer |
| 18:20.29 | acad | php4-pgsql |
| 18:20.42 | stouset | abrotman: Specifically, I'm getting lots of errors of the form: "udev_run_hotplugd[xxxx]: add_matching_files: unable to open '/etc/hotplug.d/default': No such file or directory |
| 18:20.47 | acad | silly me, i did dpkg -l php | grep |
| 18:20.49 | stouset | abrotman: Thousands of them. |
| 18:20.50 | enveezee | travisat_: I spelled Aluminium and Frontier right |
| 18:20.51 | jmhal | I'm having a problem with squirrelmail on Debian Sarger 3.1 . Compose screen doesn't respond (but mail is sent) , Anyone can help me ? |
| 18:20.54 | *** part/#debian OzMoSiS (n=PoWa@host245-172.pool8255.interbusiness.it) |
| 18:20.55 | abrotman | acad: but no php4 package ? |
| 18:21.15 | abrotman | acad: dpkg -l php4-common ... what's the version number? |
| 18:21.33 | abrotman | stouset: nope .. i didn't get that |
| 18:21.36 | stouset | abrotman: :\ |
| 18:21.45 | abrotman | i do have an alsa freaking out on my laptop .. but udev is ok |
| 18:21.59 | stouset | abrotman: Well, would you mind breaking udev so I can find out what's wrong? :) |
| 18:22.12 | *** join/#debian addNtoX (n=jklsdj@i3ED6C3B8.versanet.de) |
| 18:22.24 | abrotman | stouset: you could email Md .. but i'm sure he'll file you in /dev/null :) |
| 18:22.24 | addNtoX | hi folks |
| 18:22.26 | wersh | i need devel xlib and xfree86 |
| 18:22.28 | travisat_ | enveezee: sorry I digress, lets get back on topic, I dislike the use of excessive metaphors: the make metaphors less useful much in the same way that the boy who cried wolf made the wolf less malicious |
| 18:22.44 | abrotman | wersh: apt-get install xlibs-dev |
| 18:23.12 | Zitter | sorry, if I attacch an old ISA scsi bridge, it has to work by default or I have to load an appropriate module? |
| 18:23.22 | *** join/#debian BlueWings (i=sauron@203.109.95.48) |
| 18:23.36 | enveezee | travisat_: I think use of figurative speech gives way to creativity and releases us from mindless cliches |
| 18:23.38 | stouset | abrotman: Ha! Lucky for me, udev is broken so I don't HAVE a /dev/null! |
| 18:23.54 | abrotman | stouset: he does |
| 18:24.15 | travisat_ | enveezee: not usually, most metaphors are cliches |
| 18:24.44 | enveezee | just like most generalizations are inheritantly innacurate? |
| 18:24.48 | *** join/#debian trcp (n=user@62.117.85.58) |
| 18:24.51 | travisat_ | yes |
| 18:25.05 | omis | where can i find some source.list for sarge? |
| 18:25.06 | *** join/#debian swooloo (n=swooloo@nor75-9-82-224-202-20.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:25.21 | *** join/#debian CrazyEddy (n=CrazyEdd@203-214-34-185.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 18:25.23 | travisat_ | I dislike the english language, too many writers have abused |
| 18:25.24 | *** part/#debian trcp (n=user@62.117.85.58) |
| 18:25.27 | travisat_ | it |
| 18:25.38 | *** join/#debian darky (n=darky@ip-164-235.evhr.net) |
| 18:25.50 | *** part/#debian wersh (i=matt@24-176-72-051.dhcp.hckr.nc.charter.com) |
| 18:25.59 | stouset | abrotman: :( |
| 18:26.03 | *** join/#debian Yawgmoth (i=Yawgmoth@217-162-109-51.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 18:26.14 | fbi | omis: you already have one, if you are running sarge. run 'apt-setup' if you want select a different mirror. |
| 18:26.25 | travisat_ | omis: um, just change woody to sarge? |
| 18:26.38 | misantroph | [19:25:15] <travisat_> I dislike the english language, too many writers have abused |
| 18:26.44 | misantroph | #lojban |
| 18:26.44 | omis | txn, its fixed |
| 18:26.45 | misantroph | :P |
| 18:27.11 | *** join/#debian dfinn (n=dfinn@wiggum.tahoetrails.net) |
| 18:27.29 | travisat_ | misantroph: what are you trying to say? |
| 18:27.36 | *** join/#debian bioanarchism (i=vivian0@unaffiliated/bioanarchism) |
| 18:27.47 | *** join/#debian pigri (i=pigri@3e70c890.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 18:27.53 | dfinn | logcheck is a real pain in the ass. anyone on here know it well? i can't seem to get it to stop emailing me about things I don't want to know about. |
| 18:27.56 | *** join/#debian sm (n=simon@69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 18:28.19 | travisat_ | dfinn: deal with it, it is usefull |
| 18:29.06 | sm | hi all |
| 18:29.24 | misantroph | travisat nothing ,8, just try a new lauguage |
| 18:29.26 | misantroph | :) |
| 18:29.28 | sm | I'd like to get a newer version of PIL than the one in stable.. how come apt-get install -t unstable python2.3-imaging doesn't see it ? |
| 18:29.47 | asg | sm: /msg dpkg simple sid backport (good luck) |
| 18:30.16 | dfinn | travisat_: i think it probably would be usefull if I could get it configured correctly. I just don't get it. I'm telling it to ignore stuff but it's still emailing me about it. |
| 18:30.23 | travisat_ | misantroph: I have come to the conclusion that it is easier to deal with english rather than learn another language. |
| 18:30.58 | *** part/#debian Zitter (n=danilo@151.56.195.78) |
| 18:31.24 | sm | asg, thanks, that seems a little scary - I thought I could pin just one package this way.. |
| 18:31.39 | *** join/#debian netcatc (n=netcatc@srv1.aethra.com.br) |
| 18:31.52 | asg | sm: pinning one package leads to lost of other packages and then more, and more and eventually a horrid broken mess. |
| 18:31.59 | asg | sm: /msg dpkg pinning (if you want to try) |
| 18:32.13 | *** join/#debian lixar (n=foolio@dhcp18-178.bio.purdue.edu) |
| 18:32.13 | *** join/#debian misantrop (n=misantro@81-231-77-243-no25.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 18:32.14 | sm | yes, but since it's just this one I thought I'd try.. thx |
| 18:32.18 | misantrop | hmm |
| 18:32.19 | *** join/#debian EdgEy (n=edgey@adsl-83-100-227-132.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 18:32.41 | *** join/#debian daedric (n=noneof@bl5-211-122.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 18:33.09 | sm | so I did man apt_preferences, and it suggested the command I showed; what I don't understand is why it doesn't install the newer python2.3-imaging v 1.1.5 that's in unstable |
| 18:33.47 | asg | sm: did you also add unstable sources to /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 18:33.54 | *** join/#debian Verxion (n=verxion@ip70-190-201-159.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:33.58 | sm | no I did not |
| 18:33.58 | Verxion | Hello everyone |
| 18:33.59 | asg | sm: and afterwards do an apt-get update? |
| 18:34.16 | Verxion | is there a proper channel on this network to get iptables help? |
| 18:34.21 | *** join/#debian menace (n=stop@unaffiliated/menace) |
| 18:34.26 | asg | Verxion: #iptables funnily enough |
| 18:34.34 | Verxion | asg: Thanks very much |
| 18:34.42 | sm | I thought -t could do it without that.. so if I do that any further updates will bring in unstable stuff, am I right |
| 18:34.48 | *** part/#debian Verxion (n=verxion@ip70-190-201-159.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:35.09 | *** join/#debian phiPPs (n=iana@gw-trusted.physics.gla.ac.uk) |
| 18:35.29 | *** join/#debian logan77666 (n=logan@boa.futuremedia.pl) |
| 18:35.46 | abrotman | !captain obvious asg |
| 18:35.48 | fbi | hah i just figured out you can reconnect to a screen by using the first digit of the pid |
| 18:36.02 | fbi | as long as the screens don't start with the same digit |
| 18:36.17 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (i=Korben@i216-58-59-56.cybersurf.com) |
| 18:36.22 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:36.22 | *** join/#debian rleigh (n=rleigh@debian/developer/rleigh) |
| 18:36.33 | *** join/#debian pigri (i=pigri@3e70c890.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 18:36.35 | menace | Wenn ich den Kernel-header installieren will, und als uname 2.6.8-2-386 habe, welche version sollte ich denn am besten bei den headern nehmen? 2.6.8-386 oder 2.6.8-11? ich habe keine ahnung, was das 11 bedeutet, in der kurzinfo steht da nicht mehr dazu |
| 18:36.39 | fbi | !de |
| 18:36.39 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 18:36.39 | *** join/#debian jazka (n=JAZKA@c68.ip4.netikka.fi) |
| 18:36.40 | asg | !de |
| 18:36.45 | fbi | asg: i beat you! |
| 18:37.02 | asg | fbi: :) I can't win 'em all |
| 18:37.18 | *** join/#debian nefertum (n=jon@106.Red-213-96-137.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:37.21 | fbi | !qotd0 |
| 18:37.21 | dpkg | <florian> how can i make sound faster and more stable? <greycat> sound? *faster*? <greycat> you want to hear chipmunks? |
| 18:37.23 | *** join/#debian Siba (i=Siba@1-1-7-48a.gka.gbg.bostream.se) |
| 18:37.35 | fbi | where is greycat these days anyway |
| 18:37.43 | abrotman | fbi: hiding |
| 18:37.44 | asg | fbi: in -ot with the rest of us |
| 18:37.46 | *** join/#debian Jooon_ (n=jooon@himemiya.aslund.org) |
| 18:37.47 | abrotman | fbi: /whois ? |
| 18:37.55 | *** join/#debian vekpos (n=C-Kling@p54A9EA40.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:38.03 | fbi | ?: No such nick/channel |
| 18:38.04 | fbi | o.O |
| 18:38.10 | abrotman | fbi: /whois greycat ? |
| 18:38.23 | menace | I'm sorry, wrong tab |
| 18:38.28 | fbi | ok let me rephrase that question for the anal retentive |
| 18:38.32 | sloncho | pls help. debian stable x86. clean install. apt-get to week ago. for some reason, after some time it looses it's network connection. network restart shows failure to initialize dhcp. the dhcp server is working, non of the other machines there has this problem. rebooting the system does not help, same problem, fails on dhcp, i.e. it broadcasts the request, i checked that the server received... |
| 18:38.33 | sloncho | ...and responded, but the debian box did not get it. if i powercycle the machine, on first boot everything is ok. even if i restart the network it succeeds to requery the dhcp. but after some time (maybe day-2), it just lost the connection. any clues where/what to check? |
| 18:38.34 | fbi | why doesn't greycat join here anymore |
| 18:38.37 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 18:38.40 | abrotman | fbi: /msg dpkg fable |
| 18:38.41 | *** join/#debian kiwnix (n=egarcia@enano.etsit.upm.es) |
| 18:38.43 | xelam | fbi: why don't you ask him :P |
| 18:38.51 | fbi | sloncho: stop repeating that ridiculously huge msg |
| 18:38.54 | asg | xelam: no need, the fable factoid says it all |
| 18:39.03 | Siba | hello, I tried to apt-get, but it gives an error that 4 expected programs (ldconfig, start-stop-daemon, intall-info and update-rc.d) not found on PATH. How to solve it permanently (newbie) |
| 18:39.06 | *** join/#debian Kane32 (n=jojo@p57854237.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:39.20 | asg | Siba: are you doing it as root? |
| 18:39.24 | Siba | yes |
| 18:39.55 | asg | Siba: make sure /usr/sbin and /sbin are in root's path then |
| 18:39.58 | Siba | asg, trying to configure a server as instructed in the howtoforge.com for 3.1 in a remote server |
| 18:40.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 792] by debhelper |
| 18:40.26 | sloncho | fbi: its obvious that at the time I posted first, there was noone able/willing to answer. meanwhile new users join. so i just try to ask again after some time. or there is another approach, so the newly joined users can see it and answer if they can/will? |
| 18:40.32 | asg | Siba: well, a standard debian install will have those package and a root account that has a correct PATH |
| 18:40.36 | Siba | asg, that I don't know how to check, could you guide me |
| 18:40.45 | asg | Siba: echo $PATH (as root) |
| 18:40.50 | fbi | sloncho: whatever. *plonk* |
| 18:41.01 | xelam | sloncho: maybe the NIC is broken. |
| 18:41.04 | Siba | asg, I upgrated from 3.0 to 3.1 using aptitude dist-upgrade option |
| 18:41.25 | asg | Siba: oh, did you full follow the upgrade docs at www.debian.org? |
| 18:41.29 | *** join/#debian ralf (n=matteo@notebook.openjlab.org) |
| 18:41.41 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 18:41.41 | sloncho | xelam: it works after a powercycle ... hmmm, it just don't work on soft reboot |
| 18:41.52 | xelam | sloncho: sounds like a hardware problem then |
| 18:42.43 | *** join/#debian Aer (n=aer@m63.net81-66-46.noos.fr) |
| 18:42.44 | Siba | asg, I got /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
| 18:43.15 | TiMiDo | cool Siba |
| 18:43.31 | TiMiDo | dpkg or apt-get? |
| 18:43.31 | dpkg | i guess apt-get is the best thing the world ever had it's highly addictive and much different than dselect, it's a womans desire, ribbed for her pleasure, a superb text-adventure for tarzeau, now with Super Cow Powers, the kdeinit of package managers, overrated and overused, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200201/msg01699.html, or apt-get install synaptic for a gui client, or the shiznit, or see apt-cache, or ask me ... |
| 18:43.33 | *** join/#debian Proba (n=flavia@201008037034.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 18:43.41 | sloncho | xelam: i'll try replacing it. but I do not think that I have the same card. So even if it solve the problem, still it can be module/driver issue and we'll never know ... I remember having such a problem on RH box in the past, and I solved it with mii-tool -R, but it not works here, so who knows ... |
| 18:43.41 | *** join/#debian duncf (n=duncf@apache/committer/duncf) |
| 18:44.08 | eeyore- | i'm tempted by the nvidia geforce 6150 chipset as implemented on, say, gigabyte motherboard http://www.giga-byte.com/Motherboard/Products/Products_GA-K8N51PVMT-9.htm ... looks like it's time to get rid of the big box and go with something a little smaller |
| 18:44.11 | vca | Siba: did you 'su' to root or log in as root? |
| 18:44.13 | *** join/#debian acad (n=sd@64.9.41.157) |
| 18:44.23 | Siba | login as root |
| 18:44.23 | *** join/#debian naphex (n=naphex@ANice-152-1-45-119.w86-193.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 18:44.30 | TiMiDo | eeyore-: yeah why not |
| 18:44.34 | acad | abrotman you still there, i don't have any php4 package installed it looks |
| 18:44.48 | TiMiDo | acad: do apt-cache search php4 and installed them (: |
| 18:45.00 | vca | Siba: :bog: the sbin dirs *should* be in your path on a default debian build afaik. |
| 18:45.02 | abrotman | acad: but you're running PHP ? |
| 18:45.07 | abrotman | acad: did you compile php ? |
| 18:45.32 | Siba | vca, it is not there. how could I put one? |
| 18:45.34 | eeyore- | TiMiDo: compatibility :-) not sure if/when the geforce 6150 chipset is supported yet. will have to do some research. does look good though. PATA/SATA support, firewire support ... built-in network + graphic + audio ... the usual |
| 18:45.37 | DarKnesS_WolF | guys really i'm lost .. debian testing + xcdroast and installed cdrecord.prodvd but the dvd thats comes out don't work ! any idea how can i burn safe dvds ? |
| 18:45.50 | TiMiDo | eeyore-: try apt-cache search nvidia |
| 18:45.52 | acad | TiMiDo yea i've got php working. i have <?php ?> within index.php file.. works fine. it's definatly not installed from source. |
| 18:45.55 | acad | err |
| 18:45.58 | acad | abrotman i ment |
| 18:46.08 | TiMiDo | nvtv tool to control TV chips on NVidia cards under Linux |
| 18:46.13 | xelam | asg: that appears to refer to another #debian |
| 18:46.32 | asg | xelam: nope, this one as it was |
| 18:46.36 | eeyore- | TiMiDo: this one supposedly has hdtv encoder. i can't make use of that yet since i don't have any hdtv set :-p |
| 18:47.08 | *** join/#debian pigri (i=pigri@3e44bce5.adsl.enternet.hu) |
| 18:47.41 | abrotman | acad: then you compiled PHP from source .. ask #php |
| 18:47.41 | xelam | asg: OPN? |
| 18:47.56 | acad | abotman, no i'm telling you it's not installed from source |
| 18:47.59 | asg | xelam: no, #debian here. The one you are in right now. |
| 18:48.15 | xelam | asg: it specifies OPN IRC network, not freenode |
| 18:48.15 | abrotman | acad: dpkg -l php4-common | tail -1 |
| 18:48.37 | vca | Siba: "export PATH=${PATH}:/sbin:/usr/sbin" but that won't persist across reboots. you should add it to root's .bashrc file (though i have no idea why it's not already set. it should be.) |
| 18:48.42 | valdyn | DarKnesS_WolF: uname -r, type of dvd burner ( scsi / ide ), device node of that device, please |
| 18:48.44 | acad | abrotman php-common is 4.3.10-15 |
| 18:49.09 | acad | abotman is that what i'd have to apt-get install php-common to upgrade php? |
| 18:49.19 | DarKnesS_WolF | 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 18:49.20 | asg | xelam: the #debian here migrated when freenode was created. |
| 18:49.24 | abrotman | acad: run apt-setup .. allow security sources .. `apt-get update;apt-get upgrade` |
| 18:49.47 | DarKnesS_WolF | valdyn: 2.6.12-1-686 / IDE / what is the device node ? |
| 18:49.48 | xelam | asg: I see |
| 18:49.50 | blaamann | Where do I find those *.desktop files that decide what gdm shows ? |
| 18:49.56 | valdyn | DarKnesS_WolF: /dev/whatever |
| 18:50.02 | DarKnesS_WolF | /dev/hdc |
| 18:50.04 | xelam | but I'd say that made it a different channel :) |
| 18:50.08 | *** mode/#debian [+l 785] by debhelper |
| 18:50.10 | resiak | dpkg: fs comparison? |
| 18:50.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, filesystem comparison is http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ |
| 18:50.11 | acad | abrotman wooo i'm pretty darn sure i don't want to do that. won't apt-get upgrade upgrade everything. i'm not sure i have enough disk space to do that. |
| 18:50.23 | valdyn | DarKnesS_WolF: you have an iso file ready to be burnt? |
| 18:50.43 | acad | abrotman can i uncomment everything but the security sources? |
| 18:50.46 | asg | xelam: the regulars from the opn channel founded the freenode channel (i.e., greycat, EE, etc.) |
| 18:50.49 | acad | that would do the trick wouldn't it |
| 18:50.49 | DarKnesS_WolF | valdyn: have cdrecord.prodvd and dvdrtools installed... no not yet .. |
| 18:50.53 | TiMiDo | acad: yeah |
| 18:51.01 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 18:51.02 | TiMiDo | remove the # |
| 18:51.18 | valdyn | DarKnesS_WolF: you dont really need cdrecord.prodvd |
| 18:51.19 | abrotman | acad: i'm pretty sure i do this more than you :) |
| 18:51.27 | abrotman | acad: if you're really scared .. show me your sources |
| 18:51.27 | abrotman | !paste |
| 18:51.27 | dpkg | paste is probably Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 18:51.31 | acad | abotman yea, i'm sure you do |
| 18:51.48 | Bombo | hi, how do i get partitions out of a complete disk image? e.g. hda1 out of an image made with dd if=/dev/hda and how do i mount one partition out of hda.img? |
| 18:51.55 | *** join/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:51.57 | *** join/#debian grumpydog (n=grumpydo@freematrix/staff/grumpydog) |
| 18:51.58 | *** join/#debian xnixiel (n=xni@148.197.131.100) |
| 18:52.02 | *** part/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:52.10 | valdyn | DarKnesS_WolF: use a working frontend, like 'k3b' for example. is or use plain 'growisofs -Z /dev/hdc=file.iso' |
| 18:52.28 | *** join/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:52.34 | enveezee | Bombo: dd if=hda.img of=/dev/hda ? |
| 18:52.39 | abrotman | acad: so tell me where you're going to paste them .. then do it |
| 18:52.42 | vekpos | how can i set the soundcard in oss? |
| 18:52.43 | enveezee | Bombo: thata a whole disk image not a partition |
| 18:52.58 | enveezee | Bombo: I've never used dd before, but thats a wild guess |
| 18:53.00 | *** join/#debian phiPPs (n=iana@gw-trusted.physics.gla.ac.uk) |
| 18:53.04 | *** part/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:53.05 | TiMiDo | vekpos: nano /etc/modules |
| 18:53.15 | vekpos | and how can i get the "dev/name" of the soundcard, if it is an isa card? |
| 18:53.19 | enveezee | linux is so fucking easy you dont have to know, you can act like it |
| 18:53.23 | OleMoudi | You have searched for packages that names contain amarok in distribution testing, all sections, and all architectures.Can't find that package, at least not in that distribution and on that architecture. |
| 18:53.32 | OleMoudi | whoa |
| 18:53.39 | Bombo | enveezee: i don't want to restore the whole image, i just want to mount it |
| 18:53.51 | *** part/#debian xnixiel (n=xni@148.197.131.100) |
| 18:53.58 | Bombo | enveezee: mount one (and the only) partition in thie hda.img file |
| 18:54.06 | vca | Bombo: see -o loop in the mount manpage |
| 18:54.09 | enveezee | Bombo: I have no idea about that, probably involvs loop mounting then image |
| 18:54.25 | Bombo | vca: that just works with images of partitions |
| 18:54.40 | Bombo | vca: this is an image of the whole hard disk (/dev/hda) |
| 18:54.45 | *** join/#debian AciD (n=gni@tehpwnz.org) |
| 18:54.47 | *** join/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:54.51 | enveezee | s/vs loop mounting then/ves loopback mounting the/ |
| 18:54.57 | Siba | vca, I did apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client libmysqlclient12-dev after the export $PATH command, and I land at other errors that says errors encountered to start mysql and while processsing ipopd ipopd-ssl postfix and posfix-tls |
| 18:54.57 | *** join/#debian angelgabriel (n=angelgab@host86-138-232-211.range86-138.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:54.57 | vca | oh, i see. i don't believe you can do that on the fly |
| 18:55.07 | *** part/#debian sm (n=simon@69-160-148-143.vnnyca.adelphia.net) |
| 18:55.15 | Bombo | enveezee: yes, but you can't mount hard disks |
| 18:55.20 | Bombo | enveezee: just partitions |
| 18:55.22 | *** part/#debian Reggy (n=Reggy@86.104.139.28) |
| 18:55.25 | Bombo | enveezee: thats the problem |
| 18:55.48 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 18:56.26 | enveezee | damn those bright/contrast are further over than I thought |
| 18:56.29 | *** join/#debian verxion (n=verxion@ip70-190-201-159.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 18:56.38 | enveezee | O_O |
| 18:57.08 | verxion | I have a debian specific iptables question: Does debian somehow save your iptable configuration during shutdown and then re-load it at next boot? If so, where does it save that configuration information? |
| 18:57.26 | enveezee | sounded like something exploaded out there |
| 18:57.27 | stew | verxion: it doesn't |
| 18:57.36 | verxion | stew: Odd. ok. . . |
| 18:57.49 | verxion | I typed in some iptables commands, rebooted, and they are back |
| 18:57.50 | *** join/#debian addddre (n=jeff@cust-66-182-88-22.bbsc.net) |
| 18:58.02 | enveezee | my radar image sucks I need to change it |
| 18:58.02 | *** join/#debian cmihai (n=cmihai@unaffiliated/cmihai) |
| 18:58.08 | *** join/#debian chessdeviant (n=chessdev@cpe-71-67-106-255.woh.res.rr.com) |
| 18:58.10 | stew | verxion: if you are on an old version of debian/iptables it might |
| 18:58.15 | *** join/#debian Isil`Zha (n=mail@p549CE008.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 18:58.18 | valdyn | verxion: debian has a package containing stuff doing that iirc |
| 18:58.26 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 18:58.26 | dpkg | IP masquerading allows several machines to share one Internet connection. Learn about it at http://jgo.local.net/LinuxGuide/linux-ip-masq.html or don't mix the slink ipmasq deb and a 2.2.x kernel, or available at ipmasq.cjb.net, or ipmasq package is evil, before coming here to ask help with unexpected network problems, first remove it! See also: masq |
| 18:58.30 | stew | verxion: what version of debian are you running? what version does "dpkg -l iptables" report? |
| 18:58.31 | addddre | If I download and install the 2.6.12-1-686-smp kernel, will hyperthreading work? |
| 18:58.51 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 18:58.51 | verxion | ii iptables 1.2.11-10 Linux kernel 2.4+ iptables administration tools |
| 18:58.53 | enveezee | the 600 mile radar is centered on like center of PA by rt 80.. I need it like centered on wheeling |
| 18:58.56 | valdyn | addddre: yea, unless you disabled it in your bios |
| 18:59.28 | addddre | ok, thank you ^_^ . somewhere said I might need to set Pentium 4 in the configuration menu. Agree or disagree? |
| 18:59.34 | verxion | valdyn: so if I have the package ipmasq installed, it may be trying to save the iptables rules? |
| 18:59.34 | *** join/#debian chrysopa (n=ronaldo@rotent.cpd.ufv.br) |
| 18:59.39 | Bombo | ok there is losetup with the -o offset option |
| 18:59.44 | stew | verxion: i could be wrong, look at the /etc/init.d/iptables script |
| 18:59.44 | *** join/#debian Netwolf (n=bdelbono@2001:618:400:0:0:0:1856:11a) |
| 18:59.46 | valdyn | verxion: no idea |
| 18:59.49 | addddre | if agree, how do I get to the configuration menu |
| 18:59.52 | Bombo | so if i would know what offset the partition is i could use it |
| 19:00.01 | valdyn | verxion: you could try something like ls /etc/init.d/ip* |
| 19:00.01 | Bombo | but how am i going to find out the offset of a partition? |
| 19:00.07 | vca | Bombo: fdisk. |
| 19:00.08 | enveezee | addddre: that kernel comes configured for Pentium 4 SMP |
| 19:00.21 | vca | Bombo: it works on both files and block devices |
| 19:00.29 | Bombo | vca: hmmm |
| 19:00.31 | *** join/#debian jjazz (n=jjazz@pool-162-84-196-241.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 19:00.42 | *** join/#debian lsald_ (n=james@ppp-69-223-142-165.dsl.wotnoh.ameritech.net) |
| 19:00.43 | stew | verxion: looks like i am wrong, and they are in /var/lib/iptables. sorry, i could swear that functionality was removed |
| 19:00.44 | *** join/#debian aktinos (n=dvs@221.Red-81-36-198.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:00.44 | vca | Bombo: here, this explains it :: http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/linux_loopback.shtml |
| 19:00.54 | addddre | okay, thank you. I'll try it out now. ^_^ |
| 19:00.54 | *** part/#debian blaamann (n=rune@144.84-48-18.nextgentel.com) |
| 19:01.14 | verxion | stew: It is very counterintuitive that it does that imho. Thanks for the path, looking now |
| 19:01.29 | Bombo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.29 | Bombo | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:01.31 | vca | stew: i thought it was and it moved to interfaces? |
| 19:02.05 | enveezee | verxion: did you see the light? |
| 19:02.07 | angelgabriel | I have a subdomain, lets call it mydomain.hopto.org - I want my internal clients to reslove to the correct internal address. I created a new zone on my DNS, called hopto.org - and I added my subdomain, mydomain, to it. Now, I can't surf to any hopto.org domains - how can i resolve this? |
| 19:02.31 | verxion | enveezee: My system doesn't have a file there by that name, so no, not yet |
| 19:02.34 | vca | Bombo: ok, so assuming a 512b MBR, offset should be 512 |
| 19:03.08 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 19:03.10 | verxion | stew: I don't have a /var/lib/iptables |
| 19:03.12 | Bombo | vca: hmmm |
| 19:03.15 | enveezee | weather.com is being a PITA |
| 19:03.29 | stew | verxion: look at your /etc/init.d/iptables script. if its saving them anywhere its from that script |
| 19:03.34 | enveezee | my current sat is from The Weather channel |
| 19:04.03 | *** join/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.166.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 19:04.10 | enveezee | hmm I think a hack is in order.. I want Pittsburgh weather with Wheeling satellite |
| 19:04.12 | *** join/#debian gungnir (n=gungnir@ppp70-238.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net) |
| 19:04.14 | enveezee | :P |
| 19:04.33 | *** join/#debian KSM (i=KSM@201.11.176.12) |
| 19:04.47 | *** join/#debian cievo (n=cievo@host-216-153-169-7.akr.choiceone.net) |
| 19:05.14 | cievo | all..hello, how do I force xorg to use default VSync??? |
| 19:05.18 | *** join/#debian Rikku_ (n=tidus@12-219-216-223.client.mchsi.com) |
| 19:05.32 | *** join/#debian andy_br (n=andy_b@81.168.72.158) |
| 19:05.48 | *** join/#debian sgeigerbot (n=user@h98.144.55.139.ip.alltel.net) |
| 19:06.11 | widrone | Thats it, im giving up on this xbox and debootstrapping another NSLU2 instead. |
| 19:06.13 | abrotman | enveezee: build your own satellite |
| 19:06.52 | cievo | all..anyone |
| 19:07.12 | *** join/#debian Fleck (n=NoThing@2001:618:400:e44c:211:11ff:febc:4fc1) |
| 19:07.42 | sgeigerbot | enveezee: moo |
| 19:07.44 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 19:07.45 | *** join/#debian GodFather (n=rcc@adsl-68-250-145-129.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 19:08.04 | *** join/#debian jzono1 (n=jo@84.52.208.98) |
| 19:08.18 | *** join/#debian mentor (n=matthew@trmd21.plus.com) |
| 19:08.24 | *** join/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-162-167.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 19:08.40 | enveezee | abrotman: the view of the wheeling satelite I can see from like Dayton to Philly almost |
| 19:08.42 | *** join/#debian maxweber (n=max@A7ba6.a.pppool.de) |
| 19:08.58 | abrotman | enveezee: thems guys in WV gots bit dishes! |
| 19:09.09 | enveezee | abrotman: with PHG I can only see from like wheeling to the ocean |
| 19:09.13 | *** join/#debian IsaacHaze (n=a@212-127-154-155.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 19:09.22 | enveezee | I cant see the storm until I am riding it |
| 19:09.34 | enveezee | or later because I dont like the http logs all the time |
| 19:09.44 | *** join/#debian Ae|-_GoD (n=jesus@thes730a-4310.otenet.gr) |
| 19:09.47 | Bombo | vca: offset=32256 worked, the 1 was the starting cylinder |
| 19:10.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 798] by debhelper |
| 19:10.09 | Bombo | vca: -u When listing partition tables, give sizes in sectors instead of cylinders. |
| 19:10.12 | Bombo | vca: ;) |
| 19:10.15 | *** join/#debian Kevin`__ (i=1000@host-69-95-140-213.pit.choiceone.net) |
| 19:10.16 | Ae|-_GoD | I'm trying to configure the kernel, in order to compile it, but I got this error: http://pastebin.ca/28022 any ideas? :) |
| 19:10.40 | eeyore- | sigh ... would be nice if i could get a 1U case, non-rackmount ... i just want a *thin* and quiet pizzabox like the old suns |
| 19:10.43 | enveezee | abrotman: what did you say? |
| 19:10.48 | Bombo | vca: thx for the hints, dude |
| 19:10.56 | asg | eeyore-: I have a sparcstation 20 for sale :p |
| 19:11.01 | enveezee | abrotman: I got family and friends down there that might know what that means |
| 19:11.14 | firepoop | is there a program to detect the mouse? |
| 19:11.20 | eeyore- | asg: yeah but i can't fit a micro-atx inside it without ... hey wait a minute. i have a sparc-5 case :-) |
| 19:11.25 | asg | heh |
| 19:11.27 | eeyore- | asg: dremel time? :-) |
| 19:11.42 | *** join/#debian MrCoYoTe (n=MrCoYoTe@AAnnecy-251-1-9-249.w83-113.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:11.47 | asg | eeyore-: sounds good. If you take a 1U mini case and take all the brackets off, it works okay too. |
| 19:11.52 | firepoop | cuz like... i dunno.. i did /dev/psaux when setting up X shit... and i checked it with cat /dev/psaux... and now it's not doing anything when i cat it and move the mouse |
| 19:11.52 | enveezee | I remember seeing my cousins from florida when I was little.. we couldnt understand a word they said |
| 19:12.01 | vca | Bombo: aaaah, makes sense.. it wanted the sectors. i saw your output from fdisk and thought "yeah, so multi by 512" good deal ;) |
| 19:12.01 | enveezee | and all they could do is make fun of the way we talk |
| 19:12.18 | eeyore- | asg: when "pc people" talk about low profile case they talk about *utter garbage* like this one http://stores.tomshardware.com/search_getprod.php/masterid=989916// |
| 19:12.21 | *** part/#debian Yawgmoth (i=Yawgmoth@217-162-109-51.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:12.30 | stew | firepoop: there is the "mdetect" package. are you running a 2.6 kernel? /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
| 19:12.43 | *** join/#debian rend (n=cracker@cpe-67-10-81-6.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 19:12.44 | firepoop | i have 2.6 yes |
| 19:12.55 | eeyore- | asg: yeah but those dang fans are loud! plus you gotta use a blower for the cpu and that sounds like a jet plane taking off :-) |
| 19:12.57 | stew | !2.6 mouse |
| 19:12.57 | dpkg | somebody said 2.6 mouse was modprobe psmouse; modprobe mousedev; echo -e "psmouse\nmousedev" >> /etc/modules and choose mouse device /dev/input/mice and mouse type ExplorerPS/2. See http://kerneltrap.org/node/view/2199 or the #Debian FAQ (http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/OtherHardware (#1.3)) |
| 19:13.07 | enveezee | I can understand more italian than I can most forms of english sometimes |
| 19:13.29 | asg | eeyore-: a low power via + compact flash might do the trick |
| 19:13.43 | *** join/#debian hebfftijd (n=mcl@30.186-136-217.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 19:14.04 | enveezee | embedded systems kick ass |
| 19:14.08 | *** join/#debian Glenn^BF (n=Glenn@85.201.5.11) |
| 19:14.09 | *** join/#debian jah_ (n=ah@AStDenis-105-1-26-194.w81-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:14.43 | eeyore- | asg: already have that. i'm looking to replace my currently dead desktop with maybe an athlon-64 :-) so i looked into gigabyte micro-atx with everything built-in. looking into getting an external multilane enclosure for sata, too |
| 19:15.01 | asg | eeyore-: ah, okay. Missed that bit above. |
| 19:15.05 | Ae|-_GoD | anyone? |
| 19:15.18 | *** join/#debian zeedo (n=zeedo@80.68.92.188) |
| 19:15.19 | abrotman | eeyore-: they make SMP miniITX machines :) |
| 19:15.22 | eeyore- | asg: not sure what happened to the desktop. might be cpu. it works ok for a while, but put it under load for long time and it just dies ... no keyboard response, nothing |
| 19:15.36 | enveezee | Ae|-_GoD: No such Nick/Channel. |
| 19:15.54 | eeyore- | abrotman: $500, too much for me :-) |
| 19:15.56 | Ae|-_GoD | enveezee, huh? |
| 19:16.00 | asg | eeyore-: cpu or memory |
| 19:16.02 | *** join/#debian caplink811-log (n=caplink8@dslb-084-059-092-236.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:16.05 | abrotman | eeyore-: http://www.logicsupply.com/product_info.php/cPath/78_76/products_id/463 |
| 19:16.14 | *** join/#debian loupgaroublond (i=yankee@67.19.3.82) |
| 19:16.18 | firepoop | mdetect dosn't output anything o_O |
| 19:16.32 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick (n=Ryan@teal-blue-20.dynamic2.rpi.edu) |
| 19:16.48 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: first, make sure you have build-essential and libncurses5-dev installed. Then do make clean in your src tree and try again. |
| 19:16.53 | eeyore- | abrotman: yeah, i look at logicsupply regularly ;-) |
| 19:16.55 | loupgaroublond | is this the right channel to ask questions about firefox + kde on debian? |
| 19:16.57 | *** join/#debian jesor (i=proxy@166.114.6.38) |
| 19:17.01 | abrotman | eeyore-: buy me one! |
| 19:17.05 | asg | loupgaroublond: #debian-kde might be better |
| 19:17.08 | eeyore- | abrotman: been thinking about the "voompc" blue box |
| 19:17.12 | *** join/#debian stewpid (i=strange@father.mirkwar.nu) |
| 19:17.20 | loupgaroublond | ok, i'll try there first, thanks |
| 19:17.21 | *** part/#debian loupgaroublond (i=yankee@67.19.3.82) |
| 19:17.23 | stewpid | my box crashed and now it wont boot anymore |
| 19:17.32 | stewpid | when i boot a knoppix cd i can mount hdg1 |
| 19:17.38 | stewpid | when i boot debian cd i cant mount hdg1 |
| 19:17.41 | stewpid | any suggestions? |
| 19:18.01 | abrotman | eeyore-: i'm probably going to get a miniITX pc for a home stereo kind of thing .. and use lirc to control it |
| 19:18.04 | eeyore- | nah, think i'm gonna scratch the case idea. i mean i can gut the current machine and save what i can ... conserve money :-) |
| 19:18.05 | stew | stewpid: is hdg1 the root partition? |
| 19:18.09 | stewpid | yes |
| 19:18.11 | madclicker | is there a way to tell who was modifying a file last? |
| 19:18.12 | eeyore- | abrotman: you'll have fun! |
| 19:18.15 | stewpid | i need to reinstall grub |
| 19:18.20 | stewpid | so it will boot again |
| 19:18.22 | stew | stewpid: /msg dpkg fixmb |
| 19:18.24 | asg | madclicker: not easily, no. |
| 19:18.24 | stew | no |
| 19:18.26 | stew | stewpid: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 19:18.35 | asg | madclicker: grep for the file in /home/*/.bash_history (maybe) |
| 19:18.46 | stew | stewpid: and stop making my nick hilight go off :) |
| 19:18.49 | sgeigerbot | stewpid: Sounds to me as if you need to answer this question: what is the error message you are getting? |
| 19:18.50 | madclicker | asg, thanks |
| 19:18.51 | stewpid | yes stew thats what i want to do |
| 19:19.01 | stewpid | but... i cant mount hdg1 |
| 19:19.08 | stew | !tell stewpid about fixmbr |
| 19:19.10 | stewpid | so i cant take the steps that dkpg says |
| 19:19.14 | stewpid | i've read it |
| 19:19.17 | stewpid | step 1 doesnt work |
| 19:19.22 | Ae|-_GoD | asg, make clean got the same error, both libncurses5-dev and build-essential are installed, anyhow the same error.. |
| 19:19.26 | jesor | alguien sabe como reinstalr el GRUB??? |
| 19:19.28 | *** join/#debian cevizoglu (n=cevizogl@nat1.supportsoft.com) |
| 19:19.34 | *** join/#debian simpson (i=mrpixhjv@p54858261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:19.45 | *** join/#debian Esaj (n=jason@fw.sedgwick.netspade.com) |
| 19:19.45 | firepoop | yay my mouse works |
| 19:19.55 | stewpid | then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target) |
| 19:19.55 | stewpid | it wont allow me to do that |
| 19:19.55 | enveezee | stewpid: what is step 1? |
| 19:19.55 | *** join/#debian buz_ (n=dargwin@ppp-82-135-90-156.mnet-online.de) |
| 19:19.57 | firepoop | i restarted though :-/ |
| 19:20.06 | stew | stewpid: i thought you said you could from knoppix? |
| 19:20.08 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: then try grabbing a fresh source package or tarball. Something is corrupted. |
| 19:20.15 | stewpid | yes |
| 19:20.17 | stewpid | from knoppix |
| 19:20.20 | stewpid | but not from debian livecd |
| 19:20.24 | stewpid | can i fix it from knoppix? |
| 19:20.27 | widrone | enveezee: He probably mean grub step 1, but who knows. |
| 19:20.28 | enveezee | heh |
| 19:20.29 | sgeigerbot | stewpid: read my comment to you above. Explain exactly what the problem is, including the error messages you get. |
| 19:20.30 | stew | stewpid: yes, same process |
| 19:20.34 | *** join/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 19:20.36 | stewpid | ok thanks |
| 19:20.40 | Ae|-_GoD | asg, well, I have downloaded the same source for two different mirrors, in tar.gz and tar.bz2, the same error |
| 19:20.42 | sgeigerbot | I don't think he's explaining this well. |
| 19:20.45 | enveezee | widrone: he just said debian livecd |
| 19:20.56 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: what kernel version? |
| 19:21.04 | *** join/#debian fietronic2 (n=fietroni@69-172-48-67.chvlva.adelphia.net) |
| 19:21.10 | Ae|-_GoD | vanilla sources, 2.6.14 |
| 19:21.17 | *** part/#debian lindenle (n=lindenle@ppp-70-225-162-167.dsl.chmpil.ameritech.net) |
| 19:21.28 | fietronic2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.30 | Subvertir | http://rly.ytmnd.com/ |
| 19:21.32 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: what gcc version are you using? |
| 19:21.33 | widrone | !tell widrone about fixmbr |
| 19:21.35 | Subvertir | best ytmnd ever |
| 19:21.48 | FrankyFourFinger | this is not correct anymore: deb ftp://non-us.debian.org/debian-non-US/ testing/non-US ? |
| 19:21.49 | Ae|-_GoD | asg, gcc version 4.0.2 (Debian 4.0.2-2) |
| 19:21.52 | fietronic2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.55 | *** join/#debian oKtosiTe (n=oKtosiTe@ip5450f737.speed.planet.nl) |
| 19:22.03 | dondelelcaro | fietronic2: don't bother. Use irssi-text instead. |
| 19:22.11 | dondelelcaro | answering PINGS gets old fast. |
| 19:22.13 | stewpid | sgeigerbot: my box crashed, then when i booted it, it didnt boot it just hung before where debian used to start, now im trying to fix grub to see if thats the error |
| 19:22.14 | *** join/#debian anabain (i=joan@84.Red-83-42-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:22.18 | rend | i have a usb 2.0 ethernet 10/100 device hooked up to an older laptop with usb 1.1. when downloading from the net at high speed the usb seems to be overwhelemed and i have to un/replug the ethernet to get it going. |
| 19:22.20 | stew | FrankyFourFinger: non-us is gone, /msg dpkg crypto in main |
| 19:22.28 | fietronic2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:22.31 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: well, I know 2.6.14 was used to build the debian kernel image. They may have had to patch it though. Try maybe using gcc-3.3 and see if you have better luck. Otherwise, #kernelnewbies might have some insight |
| 19:22.37 | enveezee | starting to feel like artificial schitzo in here |
| 19:22.42 | stew | stewpid: had you just recently installed a new kernel? |
| 19:22.46 | sgeigerbot | stewpid: You should probably do a filesystem check. Did you do that? |
| 19:22.58 | stewpid | fsck? |
| 19:22.59 | Ae|-_GoD | asg, thanks |
| 19:23.01 | asg | Ae|-_GoD: or ##kernelnewbies |
| 19:23.07 | rend | is there a way to slow down the data being sent to my usb device? |
| 19:23.14 | anabain | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:23.17 | xelam | rend: solder some resistors in series. |
| 19:23.26 | *** part/#debian verxion (n=verxion@ip70-190-201-159.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 19:23.31 | rend | haha |
| 19:23.48 | *** join/#debian empty_mind_ (i=shark@221.135.192.115) |
| 19:23.51 | *** join/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 19:23.53 | *** part/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 19:23.54 | rend | there should be software solution |
| 19:23.56 | asg | rend: you could perhaps use QoS (lartc.org) to limit the bandwidth. Seems overkill though. |
| 19:24.03 | enveezee | xelam: heh |
| 19:24.03 | *** join/#debian xfan (n=ramiro@200.108.136.35) |
| 19:24.10 | *** join/#debian graungaard (n=graungaa@0x55528961.adsl.cybercity.dk) |
| 19:24.13 | *** join/#debian BlueWings (n=BT@203.109.95.48) |
| 19:24.28 | xelam | rend: why you wanna slow it down? |
| 19:24.38 | stew | asg: for a usb device? |
| 19:24.40 | ircdevil | doh - my server froze when i pointed links to some url - bad - real bad |
| 19:24.42 | enveezee | he has a LOT of time on his hands |
| 19:24.49 | xelam | hmm |
| 19:24.52 | enveezee | mine goes slow enough already |
| 19:24.54 | *** join/#debian arnon (i=arnon@condornt.vdl.iastate.edu) |
| 19:24.56 | rend | i did the un/replug thing 25 times to download all of debian |
| 19:25.05 | xelam | ? |
| 19:25.09 | enveezee | and I only have a 128mb and a 256mb drive in mine |
| 19:25.12 | asg | stew: he said downloading 10/100 was overwhelming it. I may have assumed another inline connection that could be used to provide the limiting. |
| 19:25.13 | rend | xelam: i have a usb 2.0 ethernet 10/100 device hooked up to an older laptop with usb 1.1. when downloading from the net at high speed the usb seems to be overwhelemed and i have to un/replug the ethernet to get it going. |
| 19:25.42 | xelam | define high speed |
| 19:25.55 | *** join/#debian loupgaroublond (i=yankee@67.19.3.82) |
| 19:25.57 | rend | 606 KB |
| 19:26.12 | sgeigerbot | stewpid: Yes, fsck |
| 19:26.16 | rend | 5mbps |
| 19:26.20 | stew | asg: oh i missed that part |
| 19:26.29 | xelam | are you sure that's the problem? |
| 19:26.31 | sgeigerbot | madclicker: nice nick |
| 19:26.42 | rend | xelam: no |
| 19:26.43 | enveezee | its great hearing people being addressed as stewpid |
| 19:26.58 | asg | pidof stewpid |
| 19:27.11 | enveezee | you lost me on that one |
| 19:27.11 | stew | yeah |
| 19:27.11 | stewpid | 'pidof'? |
| 19:27.17 | xelam | pissoff |
| 19:27.17 | stew | i keep doing doubletakes |
| 19:27.23 | *** part/#debian typewriter (n=w8@unaffiliated/typewriter) |
| 19:27.26 | asg | stew: I know, so do I |
| 19:27.26 | eeyore- | abrotman: looks kinda like a playstation, http://www.giga-byte.com/DeskTop/Products/Products_TA3.htm# |
| 19:27.36 | stew | like, did sgeigerbot just call me a stewpid fsck? :) |
| 19:27.39 | asg | stewpid: pidof (8) - find the process ID of a running program. |
| 19:27.39 | enveezee | I wish these lady bugs would piss off |
| 19:27.41 | rend | i see usb 1.1 is 12mbps... my card is a 10/100 |
| 19:27.49 | enveezee | omfg I cant squish enough of em |
| 19:27.55 | rend | and its to the router at 100mbps |
| 19:28.00 | abrotman | eeyore-: i need a slot for a slotloading optical drive |
| 19:28.11 | enveezee | I could have ladybug wallpaper by now if I had been saving them |
| 19:28.32 | *** join/#debian freenik (i=nik@port-212-202-168-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 19:28.41 | loupgaroublond | no luck in #debian-kde, so i will ask my question here: running kde, i have the fonts set to verdana 10pt, including in the gtk-qt panel, which gaim is obeying. firefox is not obeying this, and using sans 12pt, and no amount of tweaking either that panel or the gtk-theme-switch2 app is changing that? |
| 19:28.52 | rend | xelam: i see usb 1.1 is 12mbps... my card is a 10/100. and its to the router at 100mbps |
| 19:28.58 | eeyore- | abrotman: i got e-otonashi case. love it. expensive though and not a lot of places carry it in the US any more |
| 19:29.10 | eeyore- | abrotman: did you look at logicsupply's line of fanless cases? |
| 19:29.12 | asg | loupgaroublond: try manually fooling the the dpi setting in the preferences for firefox |
| 19:29.19 | abrotman | eeyore-: i want miniITX .. now if only i knew somewhere to get ARM stuff ... |
| 19:29.25 | abrotman | eeyore-: i did .. |
| 19:29.26 | madclicker | sgeigerbot, thx |
| 19:29.30 | xelam | rend: yes, but you're not transferring data that fast |
| 19:29.37 | *** part/#debian ffd_it (n=whatThe@61.69.140.128) |
| 19:30.07 | rend | xelam: it is almost like my router just keeps sending packets at my device but the download doesnt move |
| 19:30.10 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@mplwireless.adsl.montana.com) |
| 19:30.12 | enveezee | abrotman: ARM stuff? you want an Intel Strong ARM system? |
| 19:30.13 | loupgaroublond | asg, my display is already set to 75dpi, i don't want firefox printing unreadable pages, and i think other gnome apps won't behave too b/c i have the gaim extended pref's installed that forces it to use a specific font |
| 19:30.31 | xelam | hmm |
| 19:30.34 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 19:30.39 | stewpid | hrmz fsck can cause severe filesystem prolbems |
| 19:30.39 | *** join/#debian mansu (n=Suman@221.135.200.134) |
| 19:30.39 | stewpid | it says |
| 19:30.39 | rend | so maybe if packets are lost... somehow it does? |
| 19:30.43 | xelam | my 10/100Mbps USB network thingy was fine in a 1.1 socket |
| 19:30.50 | asg | abrotman: http://www.embeddedx86.com/ (have some arm stuff) |
| 19:30.58 | *** join/#debian igge (n=igge@regulus3.student.uu.se) |
| 19:31.07 | abrotman | enveezee: i think the idea eventually is to have a bunch of small quiet systems .. like G4 cube, VIA Eden stuff .. small and quiet |
| 19:31.22 | enveezee | abrotman: yep. |
| 19:31.23 | mansu | hi all , is there a way i can limit the total amount of memory and cpu a process uses , i am compiling some source and i need to set the resource usage toa minimum |
| 19:31.26 | rend | xelam: did it connect to a 100mbps router? |
| 19:31.32 | enveezee | abrotman: I want to work with embedded systems |
| 19:31.35 | asg | loupgaroublond: hmm, I don't know then. I usually find firefox behaves if I set the dpi for it to 72 while my gtk apps have a dpi of 75. |
| 19:31.38 | abrotman | enveezee: i went from an HP Netcenter that sounded like a windfarm .. to a laptop :) |
| 19:31.42 | xelam | rend: no, a gigabit switch :P |
| 19:31.47 | rend | there should be a way to force 10mbps? |
| 19:31.48 | sidiot | when i watch a dvd with kaffeine, totem, or xine-ui, the player doesn't display the video smoothly but sort of choppy |
| 19:31.49 | enveezee | abrotman: I've been researching many platforms and where to buy, whats available.. cost ..etc |
| 19:31.55 | widrone | abrotman: Looked at debonaras.org ? |
| 19:31.59 | abrotman | for ? |
| 19:32.11 | rend | xelam: keep in mind that this router was $10 |
| 19:32.22 | abrotman | widrone: oh .. the only ARM machine i had bit it |
| 19:32.30 | widrone | abrotman: Im running armv5teb debian sarge here now. |
| 19:32.32 | *** join/#debian [sr] (i=Unknowne@es-217-129-30-92.netvisao.pt) |
| 19:32.33 | rend | airlink 101 - p504 |
| 19:32.35 | [sr] | hi there |
| 19:32.40 | enveezee | abrotman: this thing that just recently appeared on linuxdevices is interesting.. its a whole complete pc in a CF card, and you have a board with cf slots and you can add extra storage, network..etc in cf cards to the system |
| 19:32.40 | [sr] | people, i need something like this |
| 19:32.45 | [sr] | a socket server or something |
| 19:32.49 | rend | airlink 101 - ar504 |
| 19:32.49 | enveezee | abrotman: neat concept |
| 19:33.03 | [sr] | to send commands via a a remote client |
| 19:33.03 | asg | [sr]: a socket server? |
| 19:33.07 | *** join/#debian dennys_modolo (n=d-modolo@srv00.el.com.br) |
| 19:33.09 | [sr] | yap that |
| 19:33.12 | widrone | abrotman: On a NSLU2 from linksys. Processor : XScale-IXP42x Family rev 1 (v5b) |
| 19:33.18 | enveezee | abrotman: imagine how much easier to swap hardware than desktops |
| 19:33.27 | [sr] | but something that i can execute commands on the server machine via the client one |
| 19:33.28 | *** part/#debian anabain (i=joan@84.Red-83-42-197.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:33.31 | [sr] | any advice? |
| 19:33.41 | asg | [sr]: terminal server? |
| 19:33.46 | *** join/#debian joa (i=loler@bzq-218-215-198.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 19:33.50 | eeyore- | abrotman: real expensive board, i'm sure -> http://www.drobe.co.uk/alternative/artifact862.html |
| 19:33.50 | [sr] | nop |
| 19:33.55 | rend | xelam: so.. what should i do? |
| 19:33.56 | *** join/#debian ryanium (n=ryan@12-210-157-58.client.insightBB.com) |
| 19:33.58 | [sr] | unix shell |
| 19:33.59 | [sr] | :p |
| 19:34.05 | joa | how can i avoid my kernel from adding arp entries when the arp requests are arriving from a specific interface? |
| 19:34.13 | loupgaroublond | asg, that worked perfectly, thanks |
| 19:34.15 | asg | [sr]: oh, any unix system can be a shell server. |
| 19:34.16 | asg | loupgaroublond: cool |
| 19:34.17 | xelam | rend: I dunno :\ |
| 19:34.22 | abrotman | enveezee: i just think it'd be nice .. and logic supply has a few systems .. but really .. think about it .. your system sits idle for so much of the time .. why do i need a 4000Mhz machine .. that sits idle 99.99% of the itme .. and makes a crap load of noise |
| 19:34.22 | xelam | look in dmesg/syslog/messages |
| 19:34.32 | [sr] | you're not understanding |
| 19:34.34 | sgeigerbot | stew: No...I was recommending to stewpid to use the fsck command. |
| 19:34.41 | abrotman | eeyore-: how much is real expensive ? |
| 19:34.47 | *** join/#debian TwistedEmotions (n=Morpheus@63.81.21.32) |
| 19:34.49 | *** part/#debian loupgaroublond (i=yankee@67.19.3.82) |
| 19:34.51 | sgeigerbot | stew: Tha'ts pretty funny, though. |
| 19:34.52 | asg | [sr]: no, you're going to have to explain a bit better. |
| 19:35.05 | *** join/#debian antjos (n=josant@85.136.105.208) |
| 19:35.12 | [sr] | asg i think that i'm not undertanging my self now :D |
| 19:35.13 | eeyore- | abrotman: actually it's not too bad for an evaluation board. 175ukp = 315USD |
| 19:35.17 | *** join/#debian dacer (n=dacer@84.76.179.191) |
| 19:35.21 | abrotman | eeyore-: hrm .. |
| 19:35.29 | [sr] | let me think better |
| 19:35.33 | abrotman | eeyore-: first i need to make the jukebox .. then i'll progress |
| 19:35.35 | eeyore- | abrotman: ARM9 |
| 19:35.51 | abrotman | eeyore-: the interesting part will be the soldering to make the IR reciever for LIRC :) |
| 19:35.54 | sgeigerbot | Is there a fast way to delete a directory without using fdisk? |
| 19:36.09 | *** join/#debian syntaxis__ (n=syntaxis@user-5-240-151-83.e7even.com) |
| 19:36.14 | asg | sgeigerbot: fdisk isn't used to delete directories, rm is |
| 19:36.15 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: rm -rf dir/ ? |
| 19:36.17 | xelam | sgeigerbot: eh? |
| 19:36.17 | stew | sgeigerbot: fdisk? to delete a directory? |
| 19:36.17 | sgeigerbot | I have some huge directories and the deletion process is going very slowly for some reason. unlink seems to work only on files. |
| 19:36.20 | eeyore- | abrotman: buy a ready-made one ... want me to look up URL? |
| 19:36.24 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: yes, that's what I'm using |
| 19:36.30 | *** join/#debian EdgEy (i=wank@adsl-83-100-236-112.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 19:36.33 | abrotman | eeyore-: for the IR .. or the box ? |
| 19:36.47 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: stop using reiserfs ? |
| 19:36.47 | EdgEy | what should i use for ethernet on nForce4? |
| 19:36.48 | *** join/#debian barryh (n=barryh@72.250.118.96) |
| 19:36.53 | eeyore- | abrotman: they make two models, one receiver only and one transceiver. i think the transceiver is cool |
| 19:36.53 | EdgEy | forcedeth? |
| 19:36.56 | stewpid | i did the grub steps |
| 19:37.00 | stewpid | tried reboot |
| 19:37.04 | asg | !forecdeth |
| 19:37.04 | stewpid | no success, nothing at all :( |
| 19:37.13 | asg | bah |
| 19:37.16 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: it's a lot of hard links, so that might be the problem. It's ext3 on an a hard drive in a external USB HD enclosure. |
| 19:37.19 | abrotman | eeyore-: i have a VCR remote i don't use :) |
| 19:37.27 | rend | xelam: hmm could my usb really be 1.0 but detected wrong? |
| 19:37.28 | asg | EdgEy: that seems to be the one, yes |
| 19:37.32 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: oh .. sit down .. get coffee .. gonna be a while :) |
| 19:37.40 | enveezee | abrotman: I think just like modules of code, or anything else each one should be designed to do basically one thing well and make them small cheap and specifically tuned to their task |
| 19:37.45 | EdgEy | asg ok, just noticed it says nforce/nforce2 no mention of newer chipsets :) thanks |
| 19:37.47 | xelam | rend: is it really old? |
| 19:37.48 | *** join/#debian v|p3r (n=pdiablo@r200-40-139-42.adinet.com.uy) |
| 19:37.53 | EdgEy | worked good on my old nf2 so thats good |
| 19:37.55 | eeyore- | abrotman: well, the transceiver is meant to be used to automate the control of other devices like the tivo with its infrared transmitters |
| 19:37.56 | rend | 1999 |
| 19:38.07 | abrotman | i don't have tivo! |
| 19:38.14 | *** join/#debian linuxfreck (n=freck@fry.fmi.uni-passau.de) |
| 19:38.18 | abrotman | that's not usb2 from 1999 |
| 19:38.31 | abrotman | eeyore-: yeah .. i wouldn't use that |
| 19:38.34 | EdgEy | is '99 even 1.1? |
| 19:38.46 | asuffield | if you have a forcedeth you should buy a PCI ethernet card |
| 19:38.48 | asuffield | they're shit |
| 19:38.49 | rend | abrotman: usb 1.1 is my q. |
| 19:38.55 | stewpid | my box crashed, couldnt shutdown -r now (it refused), so i was forced to hard shutdown the box, it hasnt booted since i just ran fixmbr steps no success anyone have any suggestions please? |
| 19:39.03 | asuffield | the good nforce boards have a second ethernet chip onboard for precisely this reason |
| 19:39.04 | rend | it seems to only have found 128mb but not my extra 256mb chip wasnt found |
| 19:39.09 | asuffield | (mostly some kind of 3com chip) |
| 19:39.23 | xelam | why doesn't nickserv bloody work properly |
| 19:39.48 | rend | xelam: lilo? |
| 19:40.04 | xelam | ? |
| 19:40.19 | rend | bad joke |
| 19:40.29 | enveezee | hmm I think I seen that forcedeth before |
| 19:40.34 | rend | so is 1.1 usb 1999? |
| 19:40.35 | *** join/#debian licued (n=kkikk@ip67-94-137-123.z137-94-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 19:40.43 | *** join/#debian TalkSoup (n=arcfide@pcp09123234pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) |
| 19:40.53 | TalkSoup | Hey all, got a few issues I thought would be appropriate here. |
| 19:41.04 | rend | forcedeth? is that related to my crap? |
| 19:41.17 | TalkSoup | Bah! |
| 19:41.31 | asg | arcfide: #Dr.Phil perhaps? |
| 19:41.34 | arcfide | Haha. |
| 19:41.36 | arcfide | :-) |
| 19:41.46 | arcfide | No, I'm trying to "apt-get install projectcenter" |
| 19:41.49 | arcfide | I'm running stable |
| 19:42.04 | arcfide | But I get a message which implies that the package might be proken? |
| 19:42.08 | arcfide | s/pro/bro |
| 19:42.11 | asg | !info projectcenter sarge |
| 19:42.16 | enveezee | doesnt seem to be on this system I seen it |
| 19:42.30 | dpkg | projectcenter: (IDE for GNUstep Development), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.4.0-1.2 (sarge), Packaged size: 441 kB, Installed size: 2104 kB |
| 19:42.30 | arcfide | projectcenter: Depends: libgnustep-gui0.9-dev but it is not going to be installed |
| 19:42.30 | arcfide | E: Broken packages |
| 19:42.36 | stewpid | anyone have suggestions on my issue, im very very stuck :( |
| 19:42.49 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (i=Korben@i216-58-18-29.cybersurf.com) |
| 19:43.02 | *** join/#debian xst|sPENKMAN (n=spenkman@ip3e830990.speed.planet.nl) |
| 19:43.04 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: Does it always take a lot longer to delete hard links? |
| 19:43.19 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: /msg dpkg fs comparison |
| 19:43.25 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: lots of little files .. sucks! |
| 19:43.37 | arcfide | asg: What does that mean for me? |
| 19:43.39 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: ok. It's going down about 100 bytes per second. |
| 19:43.46 | sgeigerbot | disk usage... |
| 19:43.46 | *** join/#debian Fox_1_ (i=Fox_1_@dialup230-190.netsys.am) |
| 19:44.00 | abrotman | sgeigerbot: i think your machine is dying :) |
| 19:44.02 | arcfide | Is there anyway that I can use project center? am I missing something? |
| 19:44.06 | rend | hub 1-0:1.0: USB HUB found. Does this mean usb 1.0??? |
| 19:44.11 | *** join/#debian meff (n=meff@ppp-70-129-201-138.dsl.austtx.swbell.net) |
| 19:44.13 | sgeigerbot | abrotman: damn, there should be a better way |
| 19:44.14 | asg | arcfide: well it looks like it would install fine on my sarge box. |
| 19:44.23 | enveezee | abrotman: http://linuxdevices.com/news/NS7822194610.html |
| 19:44.34 | arcfide | asg, well, when I try it, I get the above error, so what am I doing wrong? |
| 19:44.46 | arcfide | All the other GNUstep programs install and run fine. |
| 19:44.52 | asg | arcfide: is this a pure sarge install? did you upgrade from woody? Do you have any odd sources besides the offical ones in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 19:45.02 | apogee | hello again |
| 19:45.05 | arcfide | It's a fresh install. |
| 19:45.05 | enveezee | abrotman: ARM Mini ITX w/ Debian |
| 19:45.22 | arcfide | asg: I do have non-US sources, but nothing non-official. |
| 19:45.28 | arcfide | ftp://ftp.us.debian.org |
| 19:45.32 | *** join/#debian nachoguy (n=boster@ip67-95-66-69.z66-95-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 19:45.40 | vekpos | how can i configure oss? i want to change the used soundcard (i got 2 in my pc) |
| 19:45.56 | *** join/#debian ptlis (n=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 19:46.02 | jmhal | how can i install a fortran 90 compiler ? I've tried apt-get install gfortran , but i says that the package has no candidates |
| 19:46.02 | asg | arcfide: well, remove those and do apt-get update. Then see if you still get the error. |
| 19:46.02 | theD3viL | vekpos, alsaconf? |
| 19:46.12 | enveezee | abrotman: its titties, for like 175-249 GBP |
| 19:46.26 | arcfide | asg: yeah, still there. |
| 19:46.33 | abrotman | enveezee: which is like 450-500 here |
| 19:46.42 | *** join/#debian ixxs (n=peto@adsl-15-36.m-dsl.nextra.sk) |
| 19:46.44 | vekpos | uhm, and is there a chance to do it without alsa? i have a 2.4 kernel... |
| 19:46.57 | enveezee | abrotman: well the company is selling support packages with it |
| 19:47.08 | *** join/#debian _jose (n=jose@pcp08628257pcs.lndsd101.pa.comcast.net) |
| 19:47.09 | *** join/#debian Oryn (i=oryn@falcore.fsck.tv) |
| 19:47.11 | dacer | hi, I use Debian testing with kernel 2.6.12-1 (debian pacakage), and I don't know why, it load ide-scsi module (not in /etc/modules) |
| 19:47.18 | dacer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.27 | dacer | rmmod ise-scsi don't work, it don't remove it |
| 19:47.28 | rend | hub 1-0:1.0: USB HUB found. Does this mean usb 1.0??? |
| 19:47.31 | dacer | How can I remove? |
| 19:47.35 | *** join/#debian CosmoDad (n=johndoe@dslb-084-056-230-221.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 19:47.35 | *** part/#debian Ae|-_GoD (n=jesus@thes730a-4310.otenet.gr) |
| 19:47.38 | nachoguy | I've got a dual Opteron box that has a 3ware 9500s-12 card in it. Even with the 64 bit kernel, I can't seem to see more than 2 Tb (I should be seing about 4.4 Tb). is this just a limit of df, or am I missing something? This is the stock 2.6.8-11 kernel that comes with the stable release. |
| 19:47.42 | vekpos | or how can i install alsa? i searched synaptic and installed all alsa-files, but it still isnt installed completely... |
| 19:48.09 | abrotman | nachoguy: #debian-amd64 |
| 19:48.10 | *** join/#debian CAPSLOCK2000 (i=casper@cm62474-a.maast1.lb.home.nl) |
| 19:48.15 | nachoguy | abrotman, thank you |
| 19:48.18 | arcfide | Anyone know why firefox gives me a bad X error? says that it can't access the display. The kind of error you usually get when trying to run something X-ish on a su'd root when you're on another user. |
| 19:48.18 | *** part/#debian logan77666 (n=logan@boa.futuremedia.pl) |
| 19:48.35 | *** join/#debian faljse (n=martin@83-65-246-209.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at) |
| 19:48.44 | arcfide | asg: any other ideas? Do I need to uninstall something and re-install? |
| 19:48.50 | stewpid | my box crashed, couldnt shutdown -r now (it refused), so i was forced to hard shutdown the box, it hasnt booted since i just ran fixmbr steps no success anyone have any suggestions please? |
| 19:48.57 | asg | arcfide: what does apt-cache policy libgnustep-gui0.9-dev print for Candidate |
| 19:49.22 | enveezee | abrotman: its decent though Arm9 system w/ 256MB dual nic/usb and printer,com,vga,sound |
| 19:49.29 | enveezee | abrotman: ready for debian |
| 19:49.30 | arcfide | asg: 0.9.5-1 |
| 19:49.49 | abrotman | enveezee: but first ineed to make the jukebox! |
| 19:50.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 805] by debhelper |
| 19:50.24 | asg | arcfide: well, that's as it should be. Nothing wrong there. What happens if you just 'apt-get install libgnustep-gui0.9-dev'? |
| 19:50.26 | *** join/#debian phaedrus_ (n=phaedrus@cpe-72-224-172-58.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 19:50.28 | enveezee | abrotman: pfft unless my jukebox was going to be like a little bose radio I wouldnt bother buying a mini itx ARM system |
| 19:50.29 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas_ (i=Korben@i216-58-48-3.cybersurf.com) |
| 19:50.31 | rend | xelam: hmm usb 1.0 is 1.5mbps... hub 1-0:1.0: USB HUB found. Does this mean usb 1.0??? |
| 19:50.44 | enveezee | but I guess saving power is good |
| 19:50.54 | arcfide | asg: libgnustep-gui0.9-dev: Depends: libgnustep-base1.10-dev (>= 1.10.3) but it is |
| 19:50.54 | arcfide | not going to be installed |
| 19:50.58 | rend | xelam: but then the ethernet is seen as usb 1.1 |
| 19:51.07 | xelam | I don't knwo |
| 19:51.08 | *** join/#debian wireddd (n=wired@68-117-215-114.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) |
| 19:51.25 | rend | shit :( |
| 19:51.25 | *** part/#debian mansu (n=Suman@221.135.200.134) |
| 19:51.35 | enveezee | I guess its worth the money it would save you in cost of use. the power consumption is probably like 1/100 |
| 19:52.00 | arcfide | asg: doing an "apt-cache policy libgnustep1.10-dev" gives a right version. |
| 19:52.11 | dacer | How can I remove a module that I can not remove with rmmod? |
| 19:52.19 | asg | arcfide: I am out of ideas. I'd file a bug (/msg dpkg bts.) However, my sarge system here indicates that it wouldn't have a problem so there is likely a local configuration problem. |
| 19:52.30 | asg | dacer: /msg dpkg blacklist ; reboot |
| 19:52.34 | arcfide | asg: Aaha! |
| 19:52.58 | arcfide | asg: I kept following the errors, I got this: |
| 19:53.00 | asg | enveezee: if you need a spreadsheet, you have too much kit |
| 19:53.03 | dj_ryan | where is the debian security rss feed for sarge? |
| 19:53.06 | rend | anyone know why the extra 256mb ram (toshiba laptop) isnt detected in linux but was fine in win 98? |
| 19:53.09 | arcfide | asg: libssl-dev: Depends: libssl0.9.7 (= 0.9.7e-3) but 0.9.7e-3sarge1 is to be installed |
| 19:53.14 | enveezee | asg: heh |
| 19:53.30 | *** join/#debian don_ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 19:53.30 | arcfide | Could that be a problem? |
| 19:53.35 | asg | arcfide: do you have security sources? |
| 19:53.39 | arcfide | Yeah |
| 19:53.45 | dacer | asg, module are loaded after reboot, and it isn't in /etc/modules (module is ide-scsi) |
| 19:54.00 | arcfide | Wait, bah...no, where'd they go?? |
| 19:54.17 | *** join/#debian Lanix (n=me@65-23-197-182.prtc.net) |
| 19:54.18 | asg | arcfide: there was an upgrade today to libssl in sarge. |
| 19:54.28 | asg | dacer: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 19:54.30 | arcfide | Haha |
| 19:54.32 | arcfide | Figures. |
| 19:54.40 | dacer | ok, asg |
| 19:55.13 | asg | dj_ryan: just join the debian-security mailing list |
| 19:55.27 | enveezee | asg: the spreadsheet shows the device type, technology, manufacturer, model number, energystar compliance, if it actively powersaves, its location in the house if static, Current, Power, Daily usage (0 not used, 1 used all day) Monthly Power COnsumption and the monthly cost |
| 19:55.41 | dj_ryan | asg: i dont want to. |
| 19:55.43 | dj_ryan | i am sick of email |
| 19:55.54 | rend | anyone know why the extra 256mb ram (toshiba laptop) isnt detected in linux but was fine in win 98? |
| 19:56.09 | dj_ryan | rend: sheesh i think the answer was originally 'no' |
| 19:56.10 | asg | dj_ryan: then write a procmail rule to convert d-s into an RSS feed. Or see security.debian.org (if there is an RSS feed) |
| 19:56.26 | abrotman | enveezee: i'm not .. i'm buying a VIA system :) |
| 19:56.30 | asg | enveezee: you are a very sick person but probably have your reasons :) |
| 19:56.32 | *** join/#debian franklin (n=franklin@klabs.be) |
| 19:56.46 | dj_ryan | oh there is it. |
| 19:56.47 | dj_ryan | doh. |
| 19:56.53 | dj_ryan | they call it 'dsa' for some weird reason |
| 19:56.53 | rend | dj_ryan: then where should i look? |
| 19:56.57 | dj_ryan | and thus confusing me. |
| 19:56.59 | *** part/#debian nachoguy (n=boster@ip67-95-66-69.z66-95-67.customer.algx.net) |
| 19:57.11 | dj_ryan | rend: how old is this notebook |
| 19:57.16 | rend | ~1999 |
| 19:57.21 | asg | dj_ryan: DSA == Debian Security Announcement |
| 19:57.23 | *** join/#debian Sweetshark (n=bjoern@d025117.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 19:57.25 | dj_ryan | its possible the extra memory is 'special' somehow. |
| 19:57.28 | enveezee | asg: e.g. "Chest Freezer, Electrical, Haier HCM050EB NO N/A Kitchen 1.69 202.8 1 146.02 9.53" |
| 19:57.34 | dj_ryan | asg: DSA = Public key algorithm |
| 19:57.35 | asg | enveezee: hah |
| 19:57.53 | dj_ryan | rend: you should run 'memtest86' and see what it tells you. |
| 19:57.59 | asg | dj_ryan: thought you were still talking about DSA in the context of security.debian.org |
| 19:58.04 | rend | dj_ryan: well its laptop ekpansion mem |
| 19:58.17 | enveezee | asg: at the time I did this a while back I had not yet worked out the energy star, powersaves (y/n) and the significance of the technology into the equation |
| 19:58.32 | asg | enveezee: yeah, it's amazing how much you can save. |
| 19:58.41 | enveezee | asg: f.e. electronic devices vary on their consuption where as electrical do not generally |
| 19:58.51 | asg | ah, it seems that pubtime has arrived. |
| 19:58.53 | asg | enveezee: *nod* |
| 19:59.08 | dj_ryan | rend: so it may not be 'regular' memory, it might require special (ie: windows only) drivers to access it. not really certain though, notebooks from the era can be... interesting. |
| 19:59.13 | rend | dj_ryan: can that be run inside linux? |
| 19:59.51 | bop1 | how do i install perl modules in debina |
| 19:59.59 | enveezee | I wish I could do the same for heat, I cant for the life of me understand fucking BTUs I read wikipedia but I dont know how to grok it and make a usable equation to show effectiveness of one form of heat over the next |
| 19:59.59 | dj_ryan | rend: i really dont know much about it, this is just guesses. google is your friend (Assuming you havent) |
| 20:00.02 | rend | dj_ryan: am i making a mistake to purchase that $400 laptop in a few weeks? |
| 20:00.02 | fbi | !debina |
| 20:00.02 | dpkg | hmm... debina is debian when you're typing too fast, or see "debain" |
| 20:00.05 | dj_ryan | rend: you just might be SOL |
| 20:00.31 | *** join/#debian alienbrain (i=alienbra@196.204.158.160) |
| 20:00.31 | dj_ryan | rend: Google for this problem, if there is no solution, yes you might be making a mistake. |
| 20:00.31 | arcfide | asg: that was it, I must have had a security mix up there. Thanks a bunch. |
| 20:00.41 | arcfide | asg: I'm a happy camper now! |
| 20:00.53 | rend | dj_ryan: thats what people said last night but eventually i got the ethernet working |
| 20:01.21 | enveezee | well the estimated cost of running my desktop 24/7 monthly seems to be about $9.83 |
| 20:01.21 | rend | dj_ryan: 'yes you might be making a mistake' how so? |
| 20:01.24 | dj_ryan | rend: i'd skip it, notebooks from 1999 are a bitch - I had one under linux and it was not fun, mostly the power mgmt was difficult to make work correctly. |
| 20:02.02 | dj_ryan | as a small example, if the fan came on via the bios, (noisy fan) it would never go off until I rebooted the box |
| 20:02.03 | rend | well i can just about use this one as a semi smart terminal |
| 20:02.08 | enveezee | so I figure running that ARM9 Mini ITX would be like what $0.01 |
| 20:02.23 | *** join/#debian shad0wcat (i=Ecto@c-e05f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:02.23 | *** join/#debian Sweetsha1k (n=bjoern@d025117.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 20:02.29 | rend | but with 128mb ram i think x isnt an option? |
| 20:02.33 | *** join/#debian adioe3 (n=armin@cm167-elob.europronet.ba) |
| 20:02.39 | enveezee | your 7W nightlight that runs for 6-10 hours a night or whatever would probably cost more to run |
| 20:02.42 | dj_ryan | rend: only if you don't run any X clients on the machine it might work out. |
| 20:02.55 | fbi | rend: i'm running X on 128, just fine. |
| 20:02.57 | dj_ryan | rend: if all the programs run on a bigger box it might work, you'll have to try it out and see what happens. |
| 20:03.08 | rend | hmm |
| 20:03.22 | rend | i have some bigger boxes here |
| 20:03.42 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:03.42 | enveezee | I like figuring shit out. math and stuff is my thing. I cant for the life of me make up my mind on things I have a choice over, but if there is a definate answer I can usually find it |
| 20:04.05 | *** join/#debian luddite (n=luddite@user-142g70e.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 20:04.27 | enveezee | I could write a huge program in 1 day then spend the next 6 months deciding on where to put the buttons on the interface |
| 20:04.53 | *** part/#debian sbk (n=user@mta.snapfish.com) |
| 20:05.11 | rend | can Memtest86 be run inside linux? |
| 20:05.13 | dj_ryan | well |
| 20:05.23 | thingfish | memtest86 must be booted to. |
| 20:05.23 | dj_ryan | enveezee, user interface design is a hard thing. |
| 20:05.24 | OleMoudi | what manual should I check to add a command to be executed everytime the system starts? |
| 20:05.30 | dj_ryan | and frankly most linux people get it dead wrong. |
| 20:05.34 | fbi | memtest is usually run from a bootable cd, and takes like 24 hours |
| 20:05.36 | dj_ryan | too programmy |
| 20:05.51 | enveezee | dj_ryan: I cant even do webdesign with a WYSIWYG editor |
| 20:05.54 | EdgEy | OleMoudi look up on init.d... i think |
| 20:05.54 | dj_ryan | rend: you can install the debian memtest86 package, it makes a new lilo option as you boot. |
| 20:06.06 | dj_ryan | enveezee, a WYSIWYG editor doesnt make one a designer :-) |
| 20:06.10 | fbi | OleMoudi: /etc/init.d/README |
| 20:06.14 | thingfish | if your ram is really bad though, a single pass is enough to detect it. |
| 20:06.15 | rend | dj_ryan: cool thats what im doing now |
| 20:06.20 | enveezee | dj_ryan: yeah but I am saying even visuallizing it |
| 20:06.25 | *** join/#debian htedrom (n=htedrom@d154-20-13-12.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 20:06.26 | enveezee | dj_ryan: I cant draw one either |
| 20:06.30 | *** join/#debian Rocker_ (n=msn1@dima1.firstvds.ru) |
| 20:06.31 | arnon | is it possible to transfer file using telnet? |
| 20:06.33 | thingfish | but yes, it's customary to let it run for a few hours at least. |
| 20:06.43 | dj_ryan | enveezee, yeah :-) |
| 20:06.44 | dj_ryan | ok |
| 20:07.05 | EdgEy | if you leave memtest overnight for about 8 hrs... it's pretty much perfect. obviously longer is better but after a while it's kinda redundant |
| 20:07.13 | rend | bad ram? it isnt even being detected |
| 20:07.22 | EdgEy | afaik ram generally errors once a month or something whether there's a problem or not |
| 20:07.36 | enveezee | I dont know what it is, if I cant understand things that have no factual basis, or if I just selectivly ignore.. *shrug* |
| 20:07.37 | EdgEy | 1 bit per month... :P |
| 20:07.42 | rend | EdgEy: unless its ecc? |
| 20:08.02 | EdgEy | rend, possibly, might be total BS anyway, i just saw that somewhere on google, seems feasible |
| 20:08.10 | thingfish | rend: so you have a stick or sticks that simply aren't being detected? |
| 20:08.15 | enveezee | fucking ladybugs |
| 20:08.22 | EdgEy | if they aren't being detected memtest won't help you, haha |
| 20:08.30 | thingfish | for sure |
| 20:08.34 | enveezee | there are some fucking manbugs around somewhere |
| 20:08.37 | EdgEy | you can't run a stress test on something that isn't there! :D |
| 20:08.44 | enveezee | cause the lady bugs are comming from somewhere |
| 20:08.44 | rend | i did apt-get install memtest86... nothing was added to grub? |
| 20:09.03 | enveezee | you ever see lady bugs goin at it |
| 20:09.04 | enveezee | ? |
| 20:09.20 | enveezee | they do it doggy-style as they say |
| 20:09.27 | thingfish | I've seen them gather in huge numbers at about this time of year before. |
| 20:09.52 | enveezee | they gather all over my house.. anywhere they can make it to before I squash them |
| 20:09.52 | rend | thingfish: one stick not detected on laptop |
| 20:10.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 799] by debhelper |
| 20:10.12 | fbi | rend: is all your memory being seen in the BIOS? |
| 20:10.40 | *** join/#debian xai (n=pasta@cpe-24-27-58-18.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 20:10.42 | jades | is there anything that measures the expertise on these channels? |
| 20:10.43 | *** join/#debian helmut_ (n=helmut@p548146BE.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 20:11.01 | enveezee | jades: define expertise |
| 20:11.06 | *** join/#debian __DL__ (i=vanicat@116.54.97-84.rev.gaoland.net) |
| 20:11.19 | enveezee | jades: piggy will note that abrotman talks more shit than anyone we know |
| 20:11.21 | rend | trying to figure out how to get in the bios |
| 20:11.23 | fbi | resiaol: You've got mail! |
| 20:11.27 | abrotman | !seen enveezee |
| 20:11.27 | dpkg | enveezee is currently on #debian (6h 50m 28s). Has said a total of 1067 messages. Is idling for 8s |
| 20:11.33 | abrotman | bastard! |
| 20:11.35 | abrotman | !seen nvz |
| 20:11.35 | dpkg | nvz <n=nvz@c-24-3-200-17.hsd1.pa.comcast.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 8d 6h 32m 39s ago, saying: 'linux_manju: then /msg one'. |
| 20:11.38 | *** join/#debian Schuyler (n=sderle@tridity.org) |
| 20:11.39 | abrotman | see! |
| 20:11.41 | Schuyler | hi folks |
| 20:11.48 | xai | Anyone know how to get cups working in sarge? I have gs-esp installed but it can't seem to find the right filter in the setup for LJ-III.. |
| 20:11.50 | thingfish | rend: is this a recent addition? BIOS entry usually Del key or F1, F2 at boot. |
| 20:11.55 | *** join/#debian Isumi (n=Isumi@unaffiliated/isumi) |
| 20:12.11 | Schuyler | Can anyone give some indication under which dh_python will actually include the postinst-python script in the package?\ |
| 20:12.15 | jades | number of subject matter experts answering questions on the channel. for example, channel #perl has more subject matter experts than channel #debian |
| 20:12.20 | enveezee | I need a nice hostmask |
| 20:12.23 | jades | (hypothetically) |
| 20:12.30 | enveezee | hostnames are fugly |
| 20:12.34 | theD3viL | xai, apt-get install printconf |
| 20:12.36 | fbi | jades: who cares? |
| 20:12.45 | Schuyler | dh_python itself is, ironically, perl |
| 20:12.52 | *** part/#debian Isumi (n=Isumi@unaffiliated/isumi) |
| 20:12.57 | *** join/#debian Alex_BO (n=alex@adsl-129-16.37-151.net24.it) |
| 20:13.02 | enveezee | jades: http://www.ecotopia.com/webpress/stupidity |
| 20:13.15 | jades | !seen bob2_ |
| 20:13.15 | dpkg | bob2_ is currently on #debian (6h 52m 31s) #debian-ops (6h 52m 31s). Has said a total of 429 messages. Is idling for 172d 15h 42m 26s |
| 20:13.30 | rend | thingfish: none of those work |
| 20:13.33 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 20:13.46 | fbi | rend: what brand + model laptop |
| 20:13.55 | thingfish | rend: then check the manufacturer's support website for your model. |
| 20:14.15 | enveezee | I need to restart my IRC logging |
| 20:14.15 | *** join/#debian Kevin`__ (i=1000@host-69-95-141-151.pit.choiceone.net) |
| 20:14.20 | rend | thingfish: there now |
| 20:14.27 | jades | it would be a good rating to have for people not familiar with a channel. |
| 20:14.35 | resiaol | fbi: OMG! |
| 20:14.48 | *** join/#debian shark_ (n=shark@warlurdz.net) |
| 20:14.50 | shark_ | hi |
| 20:14.51 | thingfish | rend: I mean, to find out how to get into its BIOS. |
| 20:15.02 | xai | theD3viL: thanks.. illl try it. |
| 20:15.03 | fbi | resiaol: msg me on aol! my screenname is hot_gurl_4_u_2_69 !!! |
| 20:15.11 | rend | got it |
| 20:15.14 | enveezee | jades: it would be good for people to familiarize themselves before making judgements, and even then keeping them to themself |
| 20:15.18 | xai | I am setting it up as an LPD printer.. Maybe I should not do that. |
| 20:15.24 | rend | so inside the bios only 128 is seen |
| 20:15.24 | shark_ | my perl 5 doesnt support mysql 4.1 authentification. I enabled "old-password" in my.cnf but the problem is still the same. can you guys help please ? |
| 20:15.30 | *** join/#debian character (n=lsmith@192.135.141.99) |
| 20:15.32 | enveezee | !karma nvz |
| 20:15.32 | dpkg | nvz has karma of 9 |
| 20:15.37 | fbi | rend: if the bios isn't seeing it, neither will Debian. |
| 20:15.37 | rend | so where is the other 256? |
| 20:15.41 | theD3viL | xai, thats the "easy" way... |
| 20:15.45 | resiaol | fbi: U JOKE BT I HAV fluffybunnygirl92@hotmail.com ON MSN ^__^ |
| 20:15.48 | rend | fbi: weird ram? |
| 20:15.50 | fbi | haha |
| 20:15.51 | *** join/#debian lo_tek (n=lo_tek@user-1121u67.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 20:15.56 | thingfish | rend: is this a recent addition (new stick of ram)? |
| 20:15.57 | enveezee | jades: karma is our rating system :P |
| 20:15.59 | rend | worked in 98 |
| 20:16.02 | fbi | rend: who upgraded this laptop, you? or someone else |
| 20:16.10 | rend | thingfish: 1999 |
| 20:16.14 | enveezee | better yet |
| 20:16.25 | enveezee | !nickmeter jades |
| 20:16.28 | dpkg | jades is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 20:16.35 | rend | wiped out win 98 and trying to get debian going |
| 20:16.37 | *** join/#debian Barnes (i=w00t@h133n2fls309o1036.telia.com) |
| 20:16.39 | enveezee | =) |
| 20:16.39 | jades | heh |
| 20:16.40 | Daveman | sup fbi |
| 20:16.42 | widrone | jades: Worked thru many reincarnations so far. |
| 20:16.44 | rend | fbi: me |
| 20:16.48 | fbi | Daveman: hey |
| 20:16.49 | jades | !nickmeeter enveezee |
| 20:16.54 | jades | !nickmeter enveezee |
| 20:16.55 | dpkg | enveezee is 100% lame with a cherry on top! |
| 20:16.56 | enveezee | !nickometer enveezee |
| 20:16.56 | dpkg | 'enveezee' is 0.000% lame, enveezee |
| 20:16.59 | thingfish | rend: I mean is the ram that's not being seen new, or is your laptop all of a sudden not seeing ram that's been installed for a while. |
| 20:17.40 | *** join/#debian Feri[D]e (n=sanjen@213.186.176.33) |
| 20:17.44 | *** part/#debian jmhal (n=jmarcelo@200.19.190.180) |
| 20:17.47 | *** join/#debian gary_ (n=gary@dsl-88-96-30-66.zen.co.uk) |
| 20:17.48 | jades | enveezee, your nick meater is biased 100% |
| 20:17.49 | fbi | rend: could be a number of things. try swapping slots, or booting with just the unseen stick, and see what happens. memory does go bad. |
| 20:17.56 | rend | thingfish: it always worked in win 98 |
| 20:18.01 | enveezee | jades: heh |
| 20:18.11 | gary_ | Can anyone tell me where to find new/working sources for apt-get. All the ones I am trying fail |
| 20:18.14 | rend | fbi there is onle one slot? |
| 20:18.15 | enveezee | jades: it knows only the honest truth |
| 20:18.24 | fbi | gary_: apt-setup |
| 20:18.26 | *** join/#debian veleno (n=veleno@81-208-83-215.fastres.net) |
| 20:18.36 | xelam | gary_: ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 20:18.41 | *** join/#debian stephenM (n=stephen@83.245.83.42) |
| 20:18.47 | rend | fbi: it has never worked in debian... the ram is good |
| 20:18.53 | stephenM | hi all. is there a command to view a GUI of apt packages? |
| 20:18.59 | stephenM | like a category selecter |
| 20:19.03 | xai | theD3viL: i see a lot more drivers there now, but I don't see LJ-III anywhere.. i'm missing something.. |
| 20:19.10 | thingfish | rend: how much total ram in the laptop? |
| 20:19.13 | fbi | rend: *shrug* stick the good ram in then, 128 will work fine. |
| 20:19.21 | rend | 384 |
| 20:19.40 | fbi | stephenM: synaptic |
| 20:19.43 | rend | if it saw the extra 256 |
| 20:19.44 | *** part/#debian J_P (n=jp@200.146.37.219) |
| 20:19.56 | gary_ | fbi: I done apt-setup but nothing has changed |
| 20:20.16 | fbi | gary_: what exactly is the problem |
| 20:20.36 | gary_ | the sources list is still the same as before, and I still can't update by doing apt-get update |
| 20:20.39 | *** join/#debian GodFather (n=rcc@adsl-68-250-145-129.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 20:21.03 | stephenM | fbi: I meant via SSH |
| 20:21.03 | fbi | gary_: errors? what exactly is happening |
| 20:21.07 | *** part/#debian ixxs (n=peto@adsl-15-36.m-dsl.nextra.sk) |
| 20:21.08 | stephenM | like ncurses |
| 20:21.23 | fbi | stephenM: an ncurses GUI? hm. |
| 20:21.38 | stephenM | well, something of the sort |
| 20:21.40 | gary_ | ok, mirror.ox.ac.uk says that the server "Failed to open file". Also the.earth.li said the same |
| 20:21.52 | *** join/#debian sickboy_08 (n=sickboy@chello080109045205.5.14.vie.surfer.at) |
| 20:22.00 | FrankyFourFinger | This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option |
| 20:22.08 | fbi | gary_: the network is probably down on this machine |
| 20:22.17 | FrankyFourFinger | please some advice? |
| 20:22.25 | fbi | !e2fsprogs |
| 20:22.26 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, e2fsprogs is http://bugs.debian.org/325834 |
| 20:22.37 | gary_ | fbi: you mean on the sources? |
| 20:22.52 | *** join/#debian dondek (n=dondek@203.238.116.20) |
| 20:22.52 | fbi | gary_: is this the box you are on now? |
| 20:22.55 | *** join/#debian steigweis (n=steigwei@p5087BE44.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:23.08 | xelam | gary_: press alt-f2, login, and do an ifconfig |
| 20:23.21 | stephenM | fbi? |
| 20:23.33 | fbi | stephenM? |
| 20:23.38 | nissemus | gary_ if that fails check /etc/network/interfaces or somthina |
| 20:23.39 | gary_ | fbi: no this is one of my servers |
| 20:23.44 | rend | i may see if i have more luck with another distro |
| 20:23.54 | fbi | gary_: there is a problem with the network on that machine. |
| 20:23.54 | gary_ | the network on the other machine is fine |
| 20:23.59 | nissemus | remnd whats the problem? |
| 20:24.00 | gary_ | in fact I am downloading something on it now |
| 20:24.07 | *** join/#debian phretor (n=phretor@host167-168.pool872.interbusiness.it) |
| 20:24.08 | stephenM | fbi: do you know of an apt package/category selector which works under SSH? |
| 20:24.09 | phretor | hello there |
| 20:24.26 | *** join/#debian agney (n=bofh@unaffiliated/agney) |
| 20:24.26 | nissemus | stephenM what's your problem? |
| 20:24.35 | TiMiDo | hello phretor |
| 20:24.39 | *** join/#debian don__ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 20:24.43 | fbi | stephenM: dselect, i guess |
| 20:24.44 | phretor | I found that there's no `gcc` softlink to, say, gcc-3.3: is that correct? |
| 20:25.04 | enveezee | should there be?! |
| 20:25.04 | gary_ | fbi nissemus I think I may have to restart, as I'm only updating as I found some problems. Such as loads of defunct processes, such as mv, chmod, chgrp, ls, very strange. Also I tried to do "ls" and I got a segmentation fault, so there is something wrong. Bye bye to my 179 day uptime |
| 20:25.30 | xelam | gary_: you got rooted? |
| 20:25.31 | nissemus | gary_ oh. |
| 20:25.39 | *** join/#debian evo_ (n=me@82.171.110.160) |
| 20:25.47 | *** join/#debian Baeaeken (n=Baeaeken@forsmarksskola.se) |
| 20:25.53 | xelam | the server at my parents' house got root-kitted :( |
| 20:26.04 | stephenM | nissemus: is there a one-line command which installs development tools? |
| 20:26.14 | *** join/#debian phaedrus_ (n=phaedrus@cpe-72-224-172-58.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 20:26.20 | stephenM | an equivelant to 'yum groupinstall "Development Tools"' |
| 20:26.22 | gary_ | xelam: lol, I checked my processes, nothing suspicious |
| 20:26.28 | deadcat | root-kitted is a word? |
| 20:26.31 | gary_ | just lots of defunct/sleeping tasks |
| 20:26.31 | deadcat | what the f |
| 20:26.40 | thingfish | stephenM: you'd probably want apt-get install kernel-package build-essential |
| 20:26.41 | xelam | rootkits hide themselves |
| 20:26.48 | xelam | they change ps |
| 20:26.48 | enveezee | !yinzersmite xelam |
| 20:26.58 | gary_ | rm, ls, ln, chmod all defunct |
| 20:26.59 | gary_ | hmm |
| 20:27.06 | Baeaeken | Which kernel-release am I to use having an amd64, but want to run in 32-bit? |
| 20:27.07 | dondelelcaro | gary_: use chkrootkit; although, if a module has loaded, then there's not much to do. |
| 20:27.08 | nissemus | stephenM that would be stupid!!!!! |
| 20:27.09 | gary_ | Any ideas how to get rid of the rootkit? |
| 20:27.10 | enveezee | stew: impressive addition to the yinzersmite |
| 20:27.15 | gary_ | i'll try |
| 20:27.17 | TiMiDo | Baeaeken: apt-cache search kernel-image and check |
| 20:27.23 | deadcat | grelli: reinstall |
| 20:27.23 | stephenM | nissemus: why? |
| 20:27.28 | deadcat | gary_: reinstall |
| 20:27.29 | dondelelcaro | gary_: if rm ls and/or ln are in D, then your drive probably has issues. Use dmesg to see what is going on. |
| 20:27.44 | sickboy_08 | rkhunter |
| 20:27.45 | enveezee | stew: your pittsburghese needs work |
| 20:27.53 | nissemus | stephenM it's as stupid as saying to your wife: "go buy me a car"; |
| 20:27.53 | grelli | I was wondering why somone would say my name |
| 20:28.05 | gary_ | dondelelcaro: lots of changes on both network cards, lots of "Promiscious mode enabled" messages |
| 20:28.09 | stephenM | nissemus: it's always done the job perfectly for me |
| 20:28.22 | nissemus | Well... Install them one by one. |
| 20:28.31 | Baeaeken | TiMiDo: Well, only get 64-bits kernels :S |
| 20:28.32 | xelam | promiscious mode lets you listen to messages not meant for your MAC |
| 20:28.38 | deadcat | grelli: wrong dude. nobody wants to talk to you (= |
| 20:28.40 | gary_ | ohh |
| 20:28.41 | TiMiDo | Baeaeken: check google and see |
| 20:28.45 | gary_ | this looks bad then does it xelam |
| 20:28.49 | xelam | probably |
| 20:28.56 | Baeaeken | TiMiDo: Well, have done it a couple of times. |
| 20:28.57 | xelam | do you have physical access to this box? |
| 20:28.58 | fbi | gary_: that's definitely bad, unless you were playing with a packet sniffer or something |
| 20:29.07 | grelli | deadcat: that's always the case |
| 20:29.07 | gary_ | xelam: I do, it's sitting next to me. |
| 20:29.12 | deadcat | grelli: hehe |
| 20:29.37 | xelam | gary_: in that case I'd shut it down, dd the harddisk for examination, and reinstall :\ |
| 20:29.39 | gary_ | fbi: It's my fault. I was hiding behind a router before, but due to an ISP change, it meant I had 8 ip addresses and assigned one to my server, meaning it was fully exposed. |
| 20:29.39 | *** join/#debian nlight (i=nlight@80.72.91.68) |
| 20:30.02 | xelam | gary_: have you done things like restrict SSH (to at least non-root users)? |
| 20:30.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 805] by debhelper |
| 20:30.27 | xelam | I think that's how they got in to my parents' one |
| 20:30.32 | xelam | a user with a stupid password |
| 20:30.40 | xelam | :) |
| 20:31.04 | Baeaeken | Running x86_64 atm, but want to run 32-bit. |
| 20:31.12 | *** join/#debian fevel (i=renato@200141252170.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:31.27 | *** join/#debian slackd00d (n=bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 20:31.42 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:31.49 | *** join/#debian war92 (n=war@iniquity.net) |
| 20:31.55 | rend | when i type uppermem in the grub command line it says: Error 23: Error while parseing number |
| 20:31.59 | *** join/#debian sonsuz_tutku (n=sonsuz_t@85.100.193.69) |
| 20:32.05 | fevel | how do I formulate a source.list to access the testing repositories |
| 20:32.14 | xai | Anyone know where the Laserjet III support for CUPS is in sarge? |
| 20:32.17 | fevel | in debian.org |
| 20:32.20 | Baeaeken | Someone running amd64 in 32-bit here? |
| 20:32.20 | gary_ | xelam: Nov 8 16:08:01 linuxbox PAM_unix[21295]: (cron) session opened for user mail by (uid=0) |
| 20:32.32 | abrotman | !tell fevel about sarge->etch |
| 20:32.36 | gary_ | xelam: just checked the auth.log file and found loads of opened and closed sessiopns for user mail |
| 20:32.43 | xelam | hmm |
| 20:32.45 | gary_ | I don't ever use it, seems wierd |
| 20:32.52 | gary_ | There is about 5 pages of them |
| 20:32.56 | deadcat | gary_: time to reinstall |
| 20:33.06 | deadcat | thats all you need to know |
| 20:33.12 | gary_ | darn it |
| 20:33.20 | xelam | gary_: if you have SSH access, disallow root and also make users be in a certain group |
| 20:33.28 | gary_ | I've got no disk space to back up atm |
| 20:33.37 | xelam | and block anything you dont' need |
| 20:33.43 | xelam | like, telnet :) |
| 20:33.46 | xelam | ftp, etc. |
| 20:33.56 | fevel | abrotman: its a fresh install and only has the cdrom in the repositorie |
| 20:34.04 | xelam | abrotman: apt-setup. |
| 20:34.07 | fbi | fevel: apt-setup |
| 20:34.09 | xelam | erm |
| 20:34.14 | xelam | sorry, fevel: apt-setup |
| 20:34.41 | apogee | hey , |
| 20:34.52 | fbi | hi , |
| 20:34.55 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@mplwireless.adsl.montana.com) |
| 20:34.57 | gary_ | thanks xelam |
| 20:35.04 | gary_ | I'll disconnect the network cable for the time being |
| 20:35.09 | xelam | good idea |
| 20:35.13 | *** join/#debian paulswm (i=unknown@103.99.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 20:35.17 | gary_ | The internet is strangely lagged :-z |
| 20:35.28 | xelam | that'll be the porn server |
| 20:35.28 | fevel | fbi: thanks! |
| 20:35.39 | fbi | fevel: no problemo |
| 20:35.56 | gary_ | lol probably |
| 20:36.34 | *** join/#debian mortum (n=fjbf@84.232.59.56) |
| 20:37.31 | gary_ | Are you in the UK xelam |
| 20:37.38 | xelam | yes |
| 20:37.42 | xelam | Zen |
| 20:37.43 | gary_ | where abouts? |
| 20:37.44 | apogee | I got a question for you all.I need to make a LAMP system (Linux ,Apache,PHP,MySQL) but I need these programs to interact .If I just install them using synaptic will they intract.Example Apache needs to be compiled with -so option to access DSO objects..... |
| 20:37.44 | mirak | I have a question about LVM. I want to do a dual boot with ubuntu i386 and ubuntu amd64. I want to know if I can share the same /boot for both installs |
| 20:37.47 | xelam | kent |
| 20:37.53 | gary_ | cool, my dad lives there |
| 20:37.55 | *** join/#debian lagarta (n=cibertid@179.Red-213-96-238.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:38.00 | gary_ | He lives in Strood, Rochester |
| 20:38.01 | mirak | well actually it doesn't matter if ubuntu or debian |
| 20:38.01 | *** join/#debian pcxtrem (n=pcxtrem@ip-250.net-82-216-249.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 20:38.05 | lagarta | ola |
| 20:38.06 | xelam | ah |
| 20:38.16 | mirak | I just want to know if I can share /boot with two systems |
| 20:38.17 | xelam | the Other city ;) |
| 20:38.30 | fbi | !tell lagarta about es |
| 20:38.34 | gary_ | :P |
| 20:39.16 | *** join/#debian wally (n=uogiene@80-195-234-248.cable.ubr01.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:39.43 | wally | hi, quick question, is there a way to detach/reatach xsession? |
| 20:40.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 798] by debhelper |
| 20:40.12 | wang | anyone here ever use pronto? |
| 20:40.44 | *** join/#debian arnon (i=arnon@condornt.vdl.iastate.edu) |
| 20:40.55 | nissemus | !tell nissemus about pronto |
| 20:41.00 | abrotman | xelam: i know about apt-setup |
| 20:41.15 | xelam | good :) that was a typo, sorry |
| 20:41.24 | xelam | or rather, a read-o |
| 20:41.49 | abrotman | xelam: /msg dpkg be a reading barbie |
| 20:41.53 | rend | i did apt-get install memtest86... nothing was added to grub? |
| 20:43.32 | *** join/#debian Varpu (n=varpu@a84-231-72-114.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 20:44.24 | paulswm | !beer abrotman |
| 20:44.30 | abrotman | woohoo |
| 20:44.43 | sidiot | !beer |
| 20:45.17 | e | ~lart sidiot |
| 20:48.14 | *** join/#debian Morphje (n=Morphje@53546AB6.cable.casema.nl) |
| 20:49.35 | *** join/#debian nathan__ (n=nathan@87.81.46.28) |
| 20:50.57 | *** join/#debian bibe (n=bibe@195.206.31.226) |
| 20:51.04 | *** join/#debian arcfide (n=af@pcp09123234pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:51.16 | arcfide | Is there a reason firefox is bugging out on me? It says it can't get the X display. |
| 20:51.27 | TiMiDo | arcfide: are you running you're x? |
| 20:51.32 | arcfide | Yes. |
| 20:51.36 | TiMiDo | are you sure? |
| 20:51.38 | arcfide | The connection is being refused. |
| 20:51.50 | arcfide | XDM authorization key matches an existing client. |
| 20:52.01 | TiMiDo | try using startx or gdm |
| 20:52.10 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:52.12 | Kluster_v2 | does it matter if you're in a x session with user Y and you try to open firefox with user X ? does it work ? |
| 20:52.15 | TiMiDo | and see if it doesn't work report a bug |
| 20:52.40 | arcfide | Kluster_v2: I think only one user can have access to a single X resource at a time. |
| 20:53.15 | *** join/#debian darknlow (n=darknlow@82-39-53-32.cable.ubr03.benw.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 20:53.29 | *** join/#debian BNE (n=Miranda@253-193-103-86.dynamic.dsl.tng.de) |
| 20:53.35 | arcfide | brb |
| 20:53.36 | TiMiDo | arcfide: check any bug on firefox |
| 20:53.43 | Kluster_v2 | and if you su to another user ? |
| 20:54.49 | TiMiDo | !tell Kluster_v2 about asking |
| 20:54.49 | BNE | hi! is there something wrong with apt 0.6.42.1? it downloads and ignores Release.gpg on my machine, so i can't update anything. |
| 20:54.49 | Kluster_v2 | there goes my answer: Of course not stupid! |
| 20:54.57 | TiMiDo | !tell BNE about apt secure |
| 20:55.04 | TiMiDo | read that |
| 20:55.19 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 20:55.44 | usn | good night |
| 20:55.44 | *** join/#debian bobgray_ (n=ikelly@213-94-145-144.b-ras1.lmk.limerick.eircom.net) |
| 20:55.52 | *** join/#debian x64 (n=x64@cpc1-wear3-3-0-cust117.midd.cable.ntl.com) |
| 20:55.54 | *** join/#debian arcfide (n=af@pcp09123234pcs.arlngt01.va.comcast.net) |
| 20:56.01 | *** join/#debian Rasta (n=RASTA@adsl-ull-2-152.46-151.net24.it) |
| 20:56.05 | *** part/#debian Rasta (n=RASTA@adsl-ull-2-152.46-151.net24.it) |
| 20:56.05 | x64 | Hey is there a package for the X interface? |
| 20:56.13 | x64 | and is it easy to install? :s |
| 20:56.13 | arcfide | TiMiDo: firefox works fine if I start up with "startx", but if I use xdm, nope. |
| 20:56.13 | TiMiDo | x64: ?? |
| 20:56.17 | bobgray_ | anyone know why any connections i make in debian etch are slow to open, but quite fast afterwards? |
| 20:56.22 | TiMiDo | !tell x64 about x |
| 20:56.35 | x64 | !tell me about x |
| 20:56.42 | TiMiDo | arcfide: then fixed kdm |
| 20:56.43 | x64 | [8:56pm]« dpkg » i dunno what is 'x'. |
| 20:56.53 | arcfide | TiMiDo then fixed kdm? |
| 20:56.55 | TiMiDo | !tell x64 about set up x |
| 20:57.09 | *** join/#debian xinming (n=xinming@60.180.86.111) |
| 20:58.03 | x64 | thanks TiMiDo |
| 20:58.17 | arcfide | TiMiDo: What do you mean by fixed kdm? I'm not running kdm? |
| 20:58.37 | *** part/#debian Thanaway (n=Elive@156.159-201-80.adsl.skynet.be) |
| 20:59.28 | *** join/#debian Snorre (n=billybob@84-217-112-88.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 21:00.13 | *** part/#debian StevenR (n=foo@82-41-30-69.cable.ubr04.edin.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:00.25 | *** join/#debian chealer (n=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 21:00.40 | *** join/#debian dae (n=daniel@c83-248-159-73.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 21:02.45 | dae | I'm building a RAID-5 array of out a few IDE drives and I started wondering what the significance is of having a partition on the drives I'm using for the array? Why add partions at all? Why not simply build out of the whole device (/dev/i2o/hda in my case) as oppose to using /dev/i2o/hda1)? |
| 21:02.59 | *** join/#debian pureone (n=pureone@host86-136-99-68.range86-136.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:03.10 | blondie | dae: why not do that with any harddisk, RAID or not? |
| 21:03.27 | nixie | do it dae. i hated myself for not doing it, 3 weeks ago when trying to migrate from 2.4 to 2.6 |
| 21:03.37 | *** join/#debian ski (n=slj@84-217-43-63.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 21:03.37 | nixie | make the partitions. :) |
| 21:03.46 | *** join/#debian bucky (n=bucky@pdpc/supporter/active/bucky) |
| 21:03.58 | gary_ | Has anyone ever done any movie encoding in Linux? |
| 21:04.08 | Ungy | dae what happens when one drive crashes |
| 21:04.10 | *** join/#debian secureboot (n=securebo@coriakin.cse.psu.edu) |
| 21:04.26 | Snorre | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
| 21:04.29 | cmihai | gary_, try menconder (from mplayer) or avidemux for editing also. |
| 21:04.33 | Snorre | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
| 21:04.36 | gary_ | I tried using transcode |
| 21:04.38 | gary_ | ok Snorre |
| 21:04.48 | *** join/#debian Rikku (n=tidus@12-219-216-223.client.mchsi.com) |
| 21:04.51 | *** join/#debian soulreaper (i=b@p54A6757E.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:05.02 | Snorre | well i just tryed too read the guidlines |
| 21:05.09 | dae | blondie, I don't know, you tell me... |
| 21:05.11 | gary_ | hmm, I read them |
| 21:05.18 | Morphje | well this has never happend to me .... crash with installing with netinstall image |
| 21:05.22 | *** part/#debian liran (n=liran@80.178.120.123.adsl.012.net.il) |
| 21:05.24 | paulswm | gary_: Yes, I have, what are you trying to do |
| 21:05.43 | dae | Ungy, what would the difference be ? |
| 21:06.08 | dae | nixie, How did the partitions help? |
| 21:06.10 | nixie | dae: nothing for disk crashes. but managing without partitions is very unpractical. |
| 21:06.16 | mirak | can I use EVMS, is it good ? |
| 21:06.19 | *** join/#debian lir-away (n=liran@versus.co.il) |
| 21:06.23 | Snorre | i got a probl with my install ! xio error 104 any one got a clue what to do ?? amd/650 gforce 256 pro (8Mb)? |
| 21:06.26 | sgeigerbot | asg: :-) I know fdisk isn't used to delete directories...but they do go away when you use it. ;-) |
| 21:06.32 | *** join/#debian marculix (n=mgzh@gw.ptr-80-238-132-15.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 21:06.38 | nixie | dae: for one, partitions can get flaged for Linux RAID. Disks cannot. |
| 21:06.39 | paulswm | sgeigerbot: Heh |
| 21:06.55 | gothtec | this is ouch, right? "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `sasl' in statusoverride file" |
| 21:06.56 | Snorre | i'm realy new so.. |
| 21:07.04 | sgeigerbot | asg: unfortunately I have other data on that filesystem... |
| 21:07.19 | dae | nixie, Yep, that is a valid point... |
| 21:07.23 | nixie | dae: furthermore, not partitioning got in the way of me migrating to 2.6. in 2.6, my raid disks were not recognised, so i had to stay with 2.4. all because of not partitioning |
| 21:07.44 | nixie | and devfs too. |
| 21:07.45 | nixie | :) |
| 21:07.50 | *** join/#debian lir-away (n=liran@versus.co.il) |
| 21:07.59 | dae | nixie, Ok, thanks for not having my figure that one out! |
| 21:08.19 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@137.125.96.30) |
| 21:08.50 | diana | How can I play microsft asf audio with xmms? |
| 21:08.52 | *** join/#debian Metrics (n=bhillis@r220-101-78-96.cpe.unwired.net.au) |
| 21:09.10 | dae | nixie, Ok,I'll stay with the partitions then. I just seems like rebuilding the raid array is going at half the speed with partitions compared to using the raw device... I don't understand how that could be? |
| 21:09.42 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:09.57 | *** join/#debian ra1 (n=chango@62.63.190.100) |
| 21:09.59 | *** join/#debian linux_manju (n=dude@220.227.176.6) |
| 21:10.15 | *** join/#debian WildPenguin (n=The@250.160.233.220.exetel.com.au) |
| 21:10.25 | *** join/#debian Skorgu (n=skorgu@207-38-179-168.c3-0.wsd-ubr3.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:10.26 | *** join/#debian lir-away (n=liran@versus.co.il) |
| 21:10.49 | fbi | diana: you need an avi plugin |
| 21:11.16 | diana | fbi: Is there a package name for thatt...that I can apt-get install? |
| 21:11.25 | fbi | diana: not that i know of |
| 21:11.31 | fbi | http://freshmeat.net/projects/avi-xmms/ |
| 21:11.32 | diana | Or just go on the xmms website and get the plugin? |
| 21:11.40 | diana | thanks |
| 21:11.47 | fbi | no problem |
| 21:11.55 | sgeigerbot | diana: avifile-player - Video player for AVI/ASF/WMF files |
| 21:12.03 | *** join/#debian ptlis (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 21:12.08 | sgeigerbot | diana: I use that instead. |
| 21:12.10 | *** part/#debian Skorgu (n=skorgu@207-38-179-168.c3-0.wsd-ubr3.qens-wsd.ny.cable.rcn.com) |
| 21:12.38 | sidiot | when i watch a dvd with kaffeine, totem, or xine-ui, the player doesn't display the video smoothly but sort of choppy |
| 21:13.29 | dae | nixie, This was a good article on filesystem performance and RAID by the way http://terapix.iap.fr/cplt/oldSite/hard/cluster/raid_config.html |
| 21:13.48 | RichiH | does iwconfig support wpa? |
| 21:14.08 | *** join/#debian ENd (n=ENd@cpe-24-59-102-56.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:14.09 | diana | sgeigerbot: It's an audioo file...I want xmms to play it. |
| 21:14.12 | sidiot | RichiH: i think so |
| 21:14.17 | *** part/#debian ENd (n=ENd@cpe-24-59-102-56.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:14.34 | *** join/#debian Morrowyn (n=Morrowyn@iskandar.demon.nl) |
| 21:14.40 | *** join/#debian mutante (i=mutante@s23.org) |
| 21:14.50 | *** join/#debian ski__ (n=slj@84-217-43-63.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 21:14.51 | RichiH | sidiot: i think not. man iwconfig says passphrase not supported. and afaik, wpa does not have keys, it has passphrases |
| 21:14.52 | *** join/#debian FiLe (n=DijiMon@213.186.176.222) |
| 21:14.56 | *** join/#debian ENd (n=ENd@cpe-24-59-102-56.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:16.05 | *** join/#debian CAVEMAN (n=kvirc@osiris.afpc.tamu.edu) |
| 21:16.18 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick (n=Ryan@cpe-72-224-119-16.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 21:16.57 | *** join/#debian neutrinus (n=marek@axd177.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:17.58 | *** join/#debian lir-away (n=liran@versus.co.il) |
| 21:18.13 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 21:18.27 | *** join/#debian MelkorD (n=MorgothD@cgd82.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 21:18.32 | *** join/#debian drbombay_43 (n=drbombay@ppp-71-130-158-33.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 21:18.54 | *** join/#debian scx (n=scx@dsl-200-67-190-204.prod-empresarial.com.mx) |
| 21:19.15 | *** join/#debian wuming (n=ming@host661461496c.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 21:19.31 | *** join/#debian wuming (n=ming@host661461496c.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 21:19.54 | *** part/#debian wuming (n=ming@host661461496c.dsl.res.tor.fcibroadband.com) |
| 21:20.09 | BNE | i don't understand this. on one machine, my apt is supposed to be up-to-date, on the other it has been upgradet to >0.6 driving me into this gpg-problem. both have the same sources list and apt is not set to hold. |
| 21:20.13 | *** join/#debian freenik (i=nik@port-212-202-168-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 21:20.15 | diana | http://pastebin.com/422258 |
| 21:20.22 | diana | What package name am I missing? |
| 21:20.27 | BNE | the gpg-instructions don't work at all. packages are still ignored. |
| 21:20.28 | *** join/#debian shad0wcat (i=Ecto@c-e05f70d5.033-47-73746f7.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 21:20.32 | BNE | *grind* |
| 21:20.48 | BNE | !tell me about apt-key 4F368D5D |
| 21:20.58 | *** join/#debian gelignite (n=gelignit@p5090F9C2.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:21.23 | *** join/#debian d3umk4 (n=jacek@kmicic.nysa.punkt.pl) |
| 21:21.42 | *** part/#debian d3umk4 (n=jacek@kmicic.nysa.punkt.pl) |
| 21:22.44 | *** join/#debian xst|sPENKMAN (n=spenkman@ip3e830990.speed.planet.nl) |
| 21:23.37 | BNE | coool... it crashed my apt-proxy... :-(> |
| 21:24.02 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:25.51 | arcfide | Alright, so I'm sorry, did I miss anything? Does anyone know why firefox would be bugging out on me like that? |
| 21:26.41 | *** join/#debian K_Dallas (i=Korben@i216-58-48-3.cybersurf.com) |
| 21:27.05 | *** join/#debian kromagg (n=kromagg@ip-83-134-69-12.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 21:27.49 | sidiot | BNE: did you try asking dpkg about apt-secure |
| 21:28.06 | *** join/#debian don_ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 21:28.24 | *** join/#debian sha1sum (n=sha1sum@unaffiliated/md5sum) |
| 21:28.27 | fbi | diana: what are you compiling that is outputting that error |
| 21:28.52 | *** join/#debian delox99 (n=delox99@206-248-149-59.dsl.teksavvy.com) |
| 21:28.53 | *** join/#debian Hhhhh (n=cristoba@c-67-169-244-47.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:28.59 | diana | My /etc/network/interfaces file is fucked up...and I have to manually type "dhclient eth0" to get my internet to work...does anyone have a /etc/network/interfaces file they can put on pastebin.com so I can use it? |
| 21:29.04 | delox99 | hi all |
| 21:29.17 | delox99 | im having problems loading kernel module at startup |
| 21:29.27 | diana | fbi: avi-xmms but I found what I needed. |
| 21:29.32 | *** join/#debian microSH (n=macroSH@e178096066.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:29.38 | meff | diana: man interfaces |
| 21:29.49 | *** join/#debian mymayer (n=NNSCRIPT@dslb-084-056-224-170.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 21:29.54 | Hhhhh | hello, would sarge work ok in a P1 200Mhz 128Mb RAM 2.1Gb HDD? I need X, a light WM (IceWM maybe), Firefox and OOo |
| 21:29.58 | nixie | diana: auto eth0, next line: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 21:30.13 | diana | thanks nixie |
| 21:30.23 | meff | cause y'know reading manuals is so hard |
| 21:30.26 | diana | nixie: The whole file are just those two lines? |
| 21:30.29 | *** join/#debian Charalambos (n=alexis@80-218-8-87.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:30.29 | *** join/#debian jean_n (n=jean_n@chello084113132078.2.13.vie.surfer.at) |
| 21:30.35 | nixie | sure |
| 21:30.48 | delox99 | should i just add the name of the module to /etc/modules ? |
| 21:30.50 | *** part/#debian stewpid (i=strange@father.mirkwar.nu) |
| 21:31.07 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:31.14 | nixie | also add: auto lo, iface lo inet loopback |
| 21:31.17 | thingfish | diana: I think there's normally a loopback stanza in there, too. |
| 21:31.20 | thingfish | ok |
| 21:31.42 | *** join/#debian JViz (i=Anomaly@adsl-065-013-131-023.sip.int.bellsouth.net) |
| 21:31.51 | *** join/#debian meriad (i=mreith@snoid.gfed.net) |
| 21:32.04 | meriad | what do i need install to have a working X server complete with startx.. |
| 21:32.04 | delox99 | ah ok /etc/modules did the trick |
| 21:32.08 | meriad | (-- new to debian. |
| 21:32.09 | arcfide | hey everyone, I just copied a whole bunch of data from a vfat drive, but the executable bits are set on everyone of the files. How can I unset the executable bits on just the regular files and not the directories? |
| 21:32.14 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:32.23 | meff | meriad: x-window-system |
| 21:32.38 | fbi | !tell meriad about setup x |
| 21:32.42 | apogee | hhh: try to add more RAM ,and will run much better |
| 21:32.53 | meriad | tahnx |
| 21:33.01 | Hhhhh | apogee, but could I get it to work? |
| 21:33.03 | *** join/#debian vini (n=vini@200.203.66.178) |
| 21:33.12 | *** part/#debian vini (n=vini@200.203.66.178) |
| 21:33.13 | Hhhhh | apogee, my main concern is HDD |
| 21:33.47 | *** join/#debian Norbert (n=Norbert@h187064.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 21:33.50 | apogee | hhh:YES ,as long as you don't expect it to be a server or like an Athlon64 4800 dual core....:-) |
| 21:33.51 | *** part/#debian Norbert (n=Norbert@h187064.upc-h.chello.nl) |
| 21:34.13 | Hhhhh | apogee, no, I just want a desktop without too much stuff |
| 21:34.25 | diana | meriad: apt-get install xserver-xorg xfonts-base x-window-system |
| 21:34.39 | *** join/#debian theintern (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 21:34.57 | apogee | hhhhh:desktop without much stuff ,with openoffice ,web browsers and all its about 1.5GB |
| 21:35.00 | fbi | if he's on sarge, there is no xserver-xorg unless he installs from backports |
| 21:35.01 | *** join/#debian gondim (n=kvirc@200216048083.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 21:35.09 | fbi | dpkg told him exactly what to do |
| 21:35.18 | AciD | anybody in unstable have to mount their /home directory by hand at the startup ? (since one day) |
| 21:35.24 | apogee | Hhhhh:thats Sarge's Desktop selection [only] |
| 21:35.28 | Hhhhh | apogee, great, do you recommend I do a network install? |
| 21:35.43 | sidiot | Hhhhh: i think it would work but OOo and Firefox will bog down your computer |
| 21:35.43 | sidiot | Hhhh: you could install fluxbox |
| 21:35.55 | *** part/#debian adioe3 (n=armin@cm167-elob.europronet.ba) |
| 21:35.59 | Hhhhh | sidiot, I was thinking of IceWM |
| 21:36.08 | AciD | also, is there any users managing to make amarok work for more than 3 hours without having it die unexpectedly from time to time under unstable ? |
| 21:36.19 | Charalambos | @arcfide: i would use find to achieve that: |
| 21:36.26 | apogee | hhhhh:I'm not sure....if you have a VERY fast connection ....1024 or more...but still its gonna take more than 24 hours. |
| 21:36.39 | Charalambos | something like that: $ find . -type f -exec chmod u-x '{}' \; |
| 21:37.22 | Charalambos | this will find all regular files and remove the users x bit |
| 21:37.26 | AciD | add a "-type f" if you don't want to block access to subdiretory |
| 21:37.36 | AciD | ah, didn't saw the option |
| 21:37.37 | AciD | nm |
| 21:37.38 | *** join/#debian lir (n=liran@80.178.120.123.adsl.012.net.il) |
| 21:38.17 | meriad | !tell meriad about flash |
| 21:38.22 | sidiot | Hhhhh: you shouldn't have a problem as long as ou don't install GNOME or KDE |
| 21:38.54 | *** join/#debian ere (n=ere@217-231-130.511210.adsl.tele2.no) |
| 21:38.56 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, The sownload is a small proportion tot he installed size. |
| 21:39.00 | fbi | meriad: you can also /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 21:39.04 | diana | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 21:39.06 | scx | Hoya ! |
| 21:39.07 | diana | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 21:39.12 | *** part/#debian wally (n=uogiene@80-195-234-248.cable.ubr01.dals.blueyonder.co.uk) |
| 21:39.15 | fbi | diana: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 21:39.21 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, If doing a net-install, even with KDE, the download is probably around 350Mb |
| 21:39.22 | apogee | hhhh:if you really want it to work ADD MORE MEMORY., |
| 21:39.31 | diana | thanks fbi |
| 21:39.43 | *** join/#debian morten (n=morten@217-13-16-218.dd.nextgentel.com) |
| 21:40.10 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, A v. basic install of sarge takes around 50Mb packages and 150Mb disk space |
| 21:40.11 | *** join/#debian amki (n=Urf@p50834DB6.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:40.59 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, Or you could try damn small linux, based on Debian, basic desktop, 50Mb ISO |
| 21:40.59 | *** join/#debian EdgEy (n=edgey@adsl-83-100-173-135.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 21:41.15 | *** part/#debian paulswm (i=unknown@103.99.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 21:41.32 | *** join/#debian phaedrus_ (n=phaedrus@cpe-72-224-172-58.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 21:41.37 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, I have had damn small linux working on 16Mb ram, 486SX25 200Mb hdd |
| 21:41.51 | Nick_Hill | (with an instlal- not live) |
| 21:41.55 | Hhhhh | Nick_Hill, I have 4Mb/s connection, I am wondering if it would ve better to do network install or download Ds |
| 21:42.06 | Hhhhh | Nick_Hill, I installed DSL |
| 21:42.13 | morten | weird question of the day. after rebooting, i'm unable to start xorg when logging in as user. however, it will start when i log in as root. i have no idea if it's relevant, but dmesg shows an error regarding mtrr: base(0xc0020000) is not aligned on a size (0x300000) boundary |
| 21:42.20 | Hhhhh | well, Luit (DSL-based), and I liked it |
| 21:42.23 | *** join/#debian ecliptik (n=mwaltz@ec130.ucsd.edu) |
| 21:42.28 | *** join/#debian testt (n=testtt@140.77.128.36) |
| 21:42.35 | Hhhhh | I just wanted something else if possible, something a little more major |
| 21:42.36 | apogee | Hhhhh :the CPU is okay for desktop work....and if you do Desktop install then remove openoffice it should be 1.3GB ... |
| 21:43.00 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, Pretty much, yes. As you will be downloading the security updates with the install, rather than downloading everything then takign what you need and updating many of those packages. |
| 21:43.09 | *** join/#debian wetlettuce (n=mark@tigger.wetlettuce.com) |
| 21:43.13 | ecliptik | is there a way to find modified files between to tar archives? |
| 21:43.35 | eeyore- | Eclipser: not automatically |
| 21:43.36 | Hhhhh | ROFL, guys, in that computer I sticked Knoppix 4.0.2 with KDE and it runs so sluggish |
| 21:43.40 | eeyore- | ecliptik: ^^^ |
| 21:43.42 | Nick_Hill | Hhhhh, If I havd a 4M DSL, I would do a net-install |
| 21:43.50 | Hhhhh | ok Nick_Hill, thanks, I'll do that |
| 21:44.06 | *** join/#debian pepsi (n=pepc@c83-250-200-14.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 21:44.08 | *** join/#debian ezerhoden (n=rfauth@c-67-171-107-24.hsd1.pa.comcast.net) |
| 21:44.11 | fbi | Hhhhh: that's because it's running from cd and ramdisk |
| 21:44.12 | *** join/#debian rumpl (n=rumpl@m134.net81-65-32.noos.fr) |
| 21:44.25 | *** join/#debian UnNo (n=UnNo@modemcable070.77-80-70.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 21:44.28 | Hhhhh | fbi, I know, the processor is P1 |
| 21:44.30 | *** part/#debian grendal_prime (n=grendal@son-216-86-177-153.static.mlode.com) |
| 21:44.35 | morten | any ideas what could cause xorg to boot as root, but not as user? |
| 21:44.42 | pepsi | hi! I have a tcl/tk script.. I seem to need 'wish'. What to do? (aptitude says that 'wish' is already installed but I have no such program!) |
| 21:44.52 | abrotman | !find bin/wish |
| 21:45.12 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/wish' (8): (/usr/bin/wish8.4) in libs/tk8.4 ;; (/usr/bin/wish8.0) in libs/tk8.0 ;; (/usr/bin/wish8.3) in libs/tk8.3 ;; (/usr/bin/wishwn) in text/wordnet ;; (/usr/bin/wishx8.3) in libs/tkx8.3 ;; (/usr/bin/wish8.0jp) in oldlibs/tk8.0-ja ;; (/usr/bin/wish-adapter) in devel/xt-toolbus ;; (/usr/lib/sourcenav/bin/wish8.3) in devel/sourcenav. |
| 21:45.15 | apogee | Hhhhh:fbi is right: its VERY different running from CD....too slow |
| 21:45.18 | ecliptik | eeyore, so probably just untar the contents and run a diff on them? |
| 21:45.19 | morten | abrotman - do you have time to help? |
| 21:45.38 | abrotman | morten: don't you start X with gdm/xdm/kdm ? |
| 21:45.45 | morten | abrotman - fluxbox |
| 21:45.55 | abrotman | morten: don't you start X with gdm/xdm/kdm ? |
| 21:45.56 | EmleyMoor | Why would kronolith, installed from the Debian package, not have generated its tables properly? Also, why, once manually generated, would recurring appointments not work? |
| 21:46.05 | abrotman | morten: you always use startx ? |
| 21:46.06 | *** join/#debian raden (n=J@68-184-19-246.dhcp.stpt.wi.charter.com) |
| 21:46.11 | maria | Hello everybody |
| 21:46.25 | fbi | hi doctor nick! |
| 21:46.28 | maria | what is the command to uninstall a kernel that has been installed? |
| 21:46.29 | *** join/#debian dob1 (n=dob@62.211.182.252) |
| 21:46.33 | morten | abrotman - the xserver boots to a login prompt on startup |
| 21:46.40 | *** join/#debian ecliptik_ (n=micheal@cpe-66-91-251-113.san.res.rr.com) |
| 21:46.46 | *** part/#debian testt (n=testtt@140.77.128.36) |
| 21:46.47 | EmleyMoor | maria: Was it installed the Debian way? |
| 21:46.52 | *** join/#debian HPS`Fresh (n=fresh@etc-mon.ertelecom.ru) |
| 21:47.09 | maria | no |
| 21:47.13 | maria | the classic way |
| 21:47.59 | morten | abrotman - ? |
| 21:48.39 | Tortel | :O |
| 21:48.46 | Tortel | ^^WINDOWS USER!^^ |
| 21:48.54 | abrotman | morten: but you can only login as root ? |
| 21:49.08 | abrotman | morten: check error logs in $HOME and /var/log/ |
| 21:49.21 | morten | abrotman - yes. if i try to log in with my regular account the sscreen goes dark for a bit and i'm back at the prompt |
| 21:49.34 | phretor | I'm building a deb package and I get the follwing error "cp: cannot stat `./#DOCS#': No such file or directory" could someone explain me the problem? |
| 21:49.37 | abrotman | morten: yes .. look for an error in /var/log/ or $HOME |
| 21:49.45 | morten | abrotman - $HOME = /home/"user"/? |
| 21:49.57 | maria | what is the command to uninstall a kernel that I have installed with >make && make modules_install<? |
| 21:50.24 | Tortel | morten: yes |
| 21:50.37 | *** join/#debian cqst (n=unix@lns-vlq-39f-81-56-151-249.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 21:50.39 | *** join/#debian bind (i=bind@85.206.129.241) |
| 21:50.39 | Tortel | morten: im 99% sure it is |
| 21:50.50 | sidiot | maybe he needs to reconfigure x? |
| 21:50.53 | morten | ok. what log am i looking for? xorg.log? |
| 21:51.02 | *** part/#debian bind (i=bind@85.206.129.241) |
| 21:51.23 | sidiot | why not run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 21:51.32 | sidiot | or is this not the proble,? |
| 21:51.39 | sidiot | problem |
| 21:51.42 | morten | dunno. i can start xorg as root. |
| 21:51.45 | morten | but not as user. |
| 21:52.09 | sidiot | hmm...that is wierd |
| 21:52.14 | sidiot | how do you start it? |
| 21:52.15 | maria | isn't there help for me? |
| 21:52.20 | maria | It is only a command |
| 21:52.23 | sidiot | i am sure ;) |
| 21:52.25 | sidiot | startx? |
| 21:52.53 | sidiot | do you run startx or xdm/gdm/kdm? |
| 21:53.04 | morten | sidiot - neither. it starts on its own when i boot. |
| 21:53.11 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@254.68.203.62.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 21:53.12 | thingfish | maria: no, I don't believe there is a single command you can use to uninstall it. |
| 21:53.17 | morten | it boots to a login screen |
| 21:53.21 | *** join/#debian ju_ (n=ju@88.134.0.148) |
| 21:53.22 | sidiot | morten: and loads into xdm/gdm/or kdm? |
| 21:53.25 | sidiot | ok |
| 21:53.37 | morten | sidiot - i'm not sure, but judging from what's in /var/log i'd say xdm |
| 21:53.45 | Baeaeken | How du I make an alias permanent, and not just fixed to the terminal? |
| 21:53.46 | ju_ | hallo |
| 21:53.59 | morten | 'cause there are logs named xdm, but none of the others |
| 21:54.00 | *** join/#debian orangecounty (n=farm@spc1-walt4-4-0-cust177.asfd.broadband.ntl.com) |
| 21:54.04 | orangecounty | Hey! |
| 21:54.08 | *** part/#debian ju_ (n=ju@88.134.0.148) |
| 21:54.19 | EdibleText | Baeaeken, add alias to ~/.bashrc |
| 21:54.21 | sidiot | i am not sure |
| 21:54.32 | Baeaeken | EdibleText: thx m8 |
| 21:54.33 | sidiot | maybe try install gdm or kdm...but that probably won't fix it |
| 21:54.40 | morten | is xdm good shit, or are either of those other better? |
| 21:54.42 | sidiot | maybe you don't have permission? |
| 21:54.47 | sidiot | i think xdm sucks |
| 21:54.54 | sidiot | gdm or kdm is better |
| 21:54.59 | sidiot | imo |
| 21:55.01 | morten | why? and why are the other's better? |
| 21:55.02 | Tortel | GDM! |
| 21:55.05 | orangecounty | how can i delete everything from a specific users crontab without having to manually su and delete it |
| 21:55.12 | phretor | Login.app is also good if you like |
| 21:55.14 | sidiot | nicer interface and allow you to use themes |
| 21:55.18 | phretor | *step like interfacement |
| 21:55.22 | morten | themes for what? |
| 21:55.26 | morten | fluxbox already lets me use themes |
| 21:55.41 | sidiot | themes for your sessions manager |
| 21:55.48 | morten | for the login screen? |
| 21:55.53 | Tortel | and more apps |
| 21:55.53 | sidiot | yes |
| 21:55.57 | EdibleText | morten, xdm is fine. youre probably already running it |
| 21:55.58 | fbi | a theme for your display manager? that you only look at for 5 seconds? that's almost as useless as the actual display manager itself. |
| 21:56.24 | *** join/#debian Aridese (n=Tim@69.182.164.236) |
| 21:56.28 | morten | ya. i don't sit around looking at the login screen, anyways |
| 21:56.34 | sidiot | hey i didn't say i do it but i just said you could |
| 21:56.36 | orangecounty | I wanna do this in a script : remove a users crontab - shutdown their processes and then delete their account |
| 21:56.42 | morten | unless xdm is the problem, i'm fine with using it. and i don't think it's the problem. |
| 21:56.50 | *** join/#debian G2 (n=ghenry@mail.suretecsystems.com) |
| 21:56.51 | sidiot | nor do i |
| 21:56.53 | fbi | morten: then don't use a display manager, do like i do and startx using ~/.xsession |
| 21:57.02 | *** join/#debian comfrey (n=comfrey@h-64-105-87-234.sttnwaho.covad.net) |
| 21:57.07 | morten | fbi - that went over my head :( |
| 21:57.09 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 21:57.13 | morten | startx i know what is. |
| 21:57.22 | fbi | morten: boot straight into console, instead of a graphical login |
| 21:57.31 | morten | okays. how? |
| 21:57.33 | Aridese | if i rooted a box and i want to find what samba shares it's running, how would I do that? |
| 21:57.44 | fbi | morten: apt-get remove --purge xdm |
| 21:57.48 | abrotman | morten: mroe than likely . it's a permissions problem somewhere |
| 21:57.55 | morten | as it is now, it boots straight to a login at userspace 7. |
| 21:58.04 | morten | so if i wanna use console i just use 1-6 |
| 21:58.06 | bucky | Aridese, why would we help you root a box? |
| 21:58.09 | Tortel | morten: use a recovery mode |
| 21:58.13 | *** join/#debian cafe (n=cafe@caffe2.ljudmila.org) |
| 21:58.21 | Tortel | morten: at grub startup (If you use it) |
| 21:58.24 | EdibleText | Aridese, if you have rooted it, just cat /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 21:58.28 | morten | i use grub, yea |
| 21:58.40 | Tortel | use a kernel recovery mode to boot to command line |
| 21:58.44 | Aridese | thanks |
| 21:58.44 | fbi | Tortel: what the hell is that going to accomplish? |
| 21:58.50 | morten | i do have command line |
| 21:58.55 | morten | i'm in command line now, using irssi |
| 21:58.59 | morten | you didn |
| 21:59.02 | Tortel | :o |
| 21:59.07 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 21:59.15 | morten | you didn't think i'd irc logging into the GUI as root, did you? |
| 21:59.20 | morten | i'm not that big a noob. keke. |
| 21:59.39 | *** join/#debian jkern (n=jkern@d38-144-96.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 21:59.47 | Tortel | well, i am 2/3 asleep |
| 21:59.57 | morten | anyway, fbi - how is booting to command line gonna change anything? |
| 22:00.00 | *** join/#debian messia (n=juve@host218-190.pool8261.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:00.12 | *** join/#debian cafe (n=cafe@caffe2.ljudmila.org) |
| 22:00.44 | fbi | morten: you sounded like you didn't want a graphical login, if you do, then don't remove xdm. that still doesn't solve your problem with xorg |
| 22:00.48 | *** part/#debian gondim (n=kvirc@200216048083.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 22:01.01 | morten | fbi - i'm fine with the graphical login. i just need to fix xorg :( |
| 22:01.08 | morten | should i try removing and reinstalling it? |
| 22:01.12 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@137.125.96.30) |
| 22:01.13 | orangecounty | crontab -u username -r |
| 22:01.16 | orangecounty | is that right? |
| 22:01.29 | *** join/#debian csrmit (n=boolean@ppp70-238.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net) |
| 22:01.43 | fbi | morten: i guess you could try reconfiguring the package, but you seem to be having an issue with permissions so who knows |
| 22:01.56 | morten | fbi - i already tried that. how do i check if permissions are as they should be? |
| 22:02.05 | EdibleText | morten, creat a test user if you need to .. then figure out whats different.. |
| 22:02.13 | morten | EdibleText - how? |
| 22:02.16 | EdibleText | morten, it will be like 'Blues Clues' |
| 22:02.19 | *** join/#debian fabienZ (n=fabien@AMontpellier-251-1-25-84.w81-251.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:02.29 | EdibleText | morten, you dont know how to create a user> |
| 22:02.33 | fbi | morten: i have no idea, but do what EdibleText just said and try starting X with a new user |
| 22:02.33 | EdibleText | > |
| 22:02.33 | EdibleText | ? |
| 22:02.35 | morten | no :( |
| 22:02.41 | fbi | morten: man adduser |
| 22:02.44 | morten | never had a need to |
| 22:02.46 | morten | okays. |
| 22:02.52 | *** join/#debian Vilerage (i=rage@cpe-24-95-59-142.columbus.res.rr.com) |
| 22:02.53 | EdibleText | morten, you have much to learn ;) |
| 22:02.57 | *** join/#debian Whitman (i=null@nullified.com) |
| 22:03.40 | morten | EdibleText - no shens |
| 22:03.48 | EdibleText | shens? |
| 22:03.54 | EdibleText | !shens |
| 22:03.58 | morten | shenannigans! |
| 22:04.02 | EdibleText | heh |
| 22:04.03 | orangecounty | hey how can you stop a users processes? |
| 22:04.05 | morten | no shit |
| 22:04.17 | morten | orangecountry - kill it |
| 22:04.18 | phretor | I'm sorry for repeating: nothing about this error? "cp: cannot stat `./#DOCS#': No such file or directory" |
| 22:04.39 | *** join/#debian foxi_76 (n=foxi@p54BA3387.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:04.51 | orangecounty | morten i just wanna kill a users processes before i delete it |
| 22:04.59 | orangecounty | or will userdel -r do that for me |
| 22:05.00 | jkern | orangecounty, do you mean to kill ALL of on user's processes? |
| 22:05.00 | morten | so use "kill" |
| 22:05.10 | morten | kill "process id" |
| 22:05.19 | orangecounty | nah i dont wanna find the process id |
| 22:05.36 | orangecounty | Is there no way to just stop all their processes |
| 22:05.47 | morten | dunno. |
| 22:05.48 | chealer | phretor: what about when the problem occurs? |
| 22:05.49 | *** join/#debian brdweb (n=mitch@69.253.199.225) |
| 22:05.51 | EdibleText | !slay |
| 22:06.19 | EdibleText | slay - Kills all of the user's processes |
| 22:06.29 | EdibleText | apt-get install slay |
| 22:06.50 | EdibleText | !slay orangecounty |
| 22:07.41 | *** join/#debian Akkersson (n=Akkersso@194.116.140.183) |
| 22:07.51 | orangecounty | yay slay works thankyou :) |
| 22:07.57 | orangecounty | Can i have my headback now? |
| 22:08.04 | EdibleText | !head orangecounty |
| 22:08.11 | *** join/#debian psyklops (i=john@252.192.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 22:08.14 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: I am back |
| 22:08.15 | EdibleText | SOL |
| 22:08.20 | remyforbes777 | lol |
| 22:08.20 | morten | EdibleText - i made a test user. even named it test. same thing happens. same error in dmesg, too. |
| 22:08.34 | EdibleText | morten, oh errors... this is new... what is it |
| 22:08.43 | *** join/#debian lhz (n=shrek@c-c870e255.010-110-73746f32.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 22:09.06 | phretor | chealer: I don't know if this is the right chan but I the error occurs when building (dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot) amaroK |
| 22:09.15 | morten | EdibleText - "mtrr: base(0xc0020000) is not aligned on a size (0x300000) boundary" |
| 22:09.22 | *** join/#debian jsebara (n=adad@200.138.213.36) |
| 22:09.28 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (n=deb@unaffiliated/timido) |
| 22:09.58 | EdibleText | morten, this error is associated with your login drama? |
| 22:10.15 | morten | EdibleText - well, it shows up once for every login attempt. |
| 22:10.29 | fbi | morten: what exactly happens when you try and start an X session |
| 22:10.34 | *** join/#debian Ireul (n=Ireul@net203-173-175.mclink.it) |
| 22:10.54 | morten | fbi - screen goes black for like 3-4 seconds. then goes back to login screen. |
| 22:10.55 | *** part/#debian Schuyler (n=sderle@tridity.org) |
| 22:11.04 | *** join/#debian BeBrA (n=abc@host181-226.pool8258.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:11.08 | fbi | morten: and you're running a desktop environment? or a window manager |
| 22:11.17 | morten | fbi - yes. xorg. |
| 22:11.21 | fbi | no. |
| 22:11.31 | fbi | what are you running, kde? gnome? fluxbox? openbox? |
| 22:11.32 | morten | fluxbox? |
| 22:11.34 | fbi | ok. |
| 22:11.41 | apogee | fbi: |
| 22:11.43 | fbi | get rid of xdm for now so you can diagnose wtf is happening |
| 22:11.48 | fbi | you can reinstall it later |
| 22:11.56 | *** join/#debian foxi_76 (n=foxi@p54BA3387.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:12.05 | apogee | fbi:do you use Debian for Development ???web i mean |
| 22:12.07 | *** join/#debian masteraccurate (n=masterac@p5091DDFB.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 22:12.11 | fbi | apogee: no. |
| 22:12.13 | morten | fbi - done. xdm removed. |
| 22:12.25 | *** join/#debian adjacent (n=scott@cpe-024-088-072-106.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:12.41 | fbi | morten: put "exec fluxbox" in ~/.xsession without the quotes |
| 22:13.02 | morten | fbi - where do i find ~/.xsession? |
| 22:13.03 | apogee | anyone using debiasn for devlopment ?? |
| 22:13.18 | fbi | morten: in your home directory: nano -w .xsession |
| 22:13.20 | chealer | phretor: so, you're building debian's amarok package source? |
| 22:13.20 | streuner | most developers use debian... |
| 22:13.30 | BeBrA | hello! I'm playing with etherwake. I noticed if I send a wol packet to one nic and shutdown the system before booting I can't wake again that nic. do you know if it need some kind of reset? |
| 22:13.34 | EdibleText | morten, ~/.xsession ~/ = your home |
| 22:13.41 | morten | ok |
| 22:13.48 | abrotman | remyforbes777: but i told you what to do yesterday :) |
| 22:14.01 | phretor | chealer: yes |
| 22:14.12 | *** join/#debian Lilldude10 (n=jdouglas@daphmb01dc1-215-112.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 22:14.13 | remyforbes777 | thats what I am about to do |
| 22:14.15 | *** join/#debian Mage_ (i=mage@81-188-70-18.adsl.easynet.be) |
| 22:14.15 | morten | fbi - no such file. create it? |
| 22:14.20 | fbi | morten: yes |
| 22:14.25 | abrotman | remyforbes777: ah ok |
| 22:14.49 | EdibleText | morten, it begins with a "." in case you missed that part... |
| 22:15.09 | *** join/#debian barryh (n=barryh@mb27036d0.tmodns.net) |
| 22:15.29 | morten | fbi , EdibleText - created |
| 22:15.38 | fbi | morten: startx |
| 22:15.51 | *** join/#debian frankie (n=frankie@klecker.ba.issia.cnr.it) |
| 22:16.16 | morten | fbi - it says the server is already active for display 0. |
| 22:16.21 | fbi | wtf |
| 22:16.25 | *** join/#debian dabreegster (i=dabreegs@host-216-77-203-137.btr.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:16.38 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: what was the name of the image file |
| 22:16.39 | morten | fbi - i've still got a login prompt at space 7. it's just uglier now. |
| 22:16.42 | *** part/#debian Charalambos (n=alexis@80-218-8-87.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 22:16.55 | *** part/#debian ecliptik (n=mwaltz@ec130.ucsd.edu) |
| 22:17.04 | fbi | morten: i suggest you idle and wait for gravity, i have no idea what is going on with your box |
| 22:17.05 | EdibleText | morten, ctrl-alt-backspace while on console7 |
| 22:17.39 | fbi | morten: is this testing/unstable or xorg backported on sarge? |
| 22:17.46 | morten | EdibleText - that killed the login screen |
| 22:17.50 | morten | fbi - testing |
| 22:18.01 | fbi | login screen?? you shouldn't have a login screen anymore |
| 22:18.07 | *** join/#debian jlj46 (n=jeremy@dialup-4.131.72.17.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net) |
| 22:18.17 | morten | fbi - i had a really ugly one. |
| 22:18.19 | EdibleText | morten, now continue with fbi's suggestion |
| 22:18.24 | morten | fbi - even after deleting xdm |
| 22:18.44 | fbi | morten: then yhou're running something else, apt-get remove --purge gdm (and kdm) |
| 22:18.53 | fbi | s/yhou're/you're/ |
| 22:19.20 | *** part/#debian dabreegster (i=dabreegs@host-216-77-203-137.btr.bellsouth.net) |
| 22:19.32 | *** join/#debian ildegar_ (n=ildegar@baana-62-44-227-43.dsl.phnet.fi) |
| 22:19.39 | morten | fbi - neither gdm, kdm or xdm did anything |
| 22:19.42 | EdibleText | morten, you could try startx again |
| 22:20.03 | fbi | you lost me dude, i don't see how you have a graphical login screen with no display manager installed |
| 22:20.20 | fbi | wait for gravity, he's the maintainer of X |
| 22:20.21 | *** part/#debian phretor (n=phretor@host167-168.pool872.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:20.22 | blondie | ps -ef | grep dm |
| 22:20.38 | morten | EdibleText - did. screen goes black for five seconds, then it shuts down and i get a lot of messages. |
| 22:21.24 | *** join/#debian mirak (n=mirak@AAubervilliers-152-1-47-86.w83-114.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 22:21.27 | morten | fbi - i don't remember fucking around with anything important before this happened. |
| 22:21.35 | EdibleText | morten, dunno.. I havent played with xorg yet. |
| 22:21.40 | morten | :( |
| 22:22.21 | jlj46 | I just dist-upgraded from sarge to etch and the modem lights gnome applet continuously crashes. Anyone know how I can get more info out of the crash? |
| 22:22.40 | fbi | jlj46: strace |
| 22:22.44 | abrotman | remyforbes777: linux-image-2.6-386 ? |
| 22:23.04 | *** join/#debian joe- (i=unknown@82.19.30.246) |
| 22:23.05 | *** join/#debian repp (n=repp@heap.f00f.net) |
| 22:23.06 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: yeah i found it |
| 22:23.06 | remyforbes777 | thanks |
| 22:23.10 | morten | so guys, when is this gravity gonna be around? |
| 22:23.18 | joe- | how do i know what my system's architecture is? |
| 22:23.20 | fbi | morten: probably later on today |
| 22:23.26 | TiMiDo | joe- uname -r |
| 22:23.26 | *** join/#debian silverton (n=Fry@c-24-16-217-206.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:23.26 | TiMiDo | =) |
| 22:23.31 | jlj46 | fbi: know how to invoke a gnome applet from the command line? It seems to need --oafid and such |
| 22:23.35 | silverton | how does one create a samba share from the command line? |
| 22:23.41 | fbi | jlj46: sorry, no, i don't use gnome |
| 22:23.46 | *** join/#debian Rikku (n=tidus@12-219-216-223.client.mchsi.com) |
| 22:23.56 | repp | silverton: vi? |
| 22:23.58 | *** join/#debian teclo (i=42@ip-83-134-2-216.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 22:24.03 | silverton | repp, no? |
| 22:24.06 | *** part/#debian adjacent (n=scott@cpe-024-088-072-106.sc.res.rr.com) |
| 22:24.16 | silverton | I meant terminal, I don't have a gui |
| 22:24.20 | EdibleText | silverton, vim /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 22:24.31 | morten | fbi - when does later today mean? it's already close to midnight here :( |
| 22:24.34 | silverton | duh... |
| 22:24.34 | repp | silverton: yeah, vi is a text editor, use your favourite editor to change /etc/samba/smb.conf |
| 22:24.34 | *** join/#debian gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host86-137-238-12.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:24.35 | jlj46 | fbi: alright thanks i'll keep digging... |
| 22:24.36 | *** join/#debian scx (n=scx@dsl-200-67-190-204.prod-empresarial.com.mx) |
| 22:24.40 | joe- | ftp://debian.blueyonder.co.uk/pub/debian-iso/3.1_r0a/ - I'm not sure which one of these I'm supposed to be downloading.. I have an AMD 2600 |
| 22:24.45 | *** join/#debian javamaniac (n=javamani@200.44.182.102) |
| 22:24.49 | *** join/#debian shai (n=shai@shaggy.cs.ucsb.edu) |
| 22:24.53 | fbi | morten: i don't know his schedule, but he usually appears in here a few hours from now. |
| 22:24.58 | shai | hi, where do i find the passwd file if not in /etc ? |
| 22:25.03 | *** part/#debian javamaniac (n=javamani@200.44.182.102) |
| 22:25.11 | silverton | joe-, i386 |
| 22:25.16 | valdyn | shai: only in /etc/ |
| 22:25.18 | TiMiDo | shai nano /etc/passwd |
| 22:25.36 | joe- | thanks silverton, but why? :) |
| 22:25.46 | silverton | joe-, that's the one for your process |
| 22:26.00 | silverton | processor |
| 22:26.09 | shai | TiMiDo, that encrypted passwords don't appaer there |
| 22:26.15 | shai | appear even... |
| 22:26.23 | morten | fbi - ok. well, thanks for all your help |
| 22:26.25 | joe- | yeah, i mean but how do you know? |
| 22:26.27 | morten | you too, EdibleText |
| 22:26.30 | repp | shai: /etc/shadow |
| 22:26.37 | EdibleText | morten, goodluck |
| 22:26.44 | morten | thanks |
| 22:26.46 | silverton | joe-, all pentium class processors are i386 |
| 22:26.56 | morten | if nothing else, i've been wanting to do a fresh install anyway |
| 22:26.57 | joe- | ahh, ok |
| 22:27.05 | *** join/#debian don_ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 22:27.09 | *** part/#debian jkern (n=jkern@d38-144-96.home1.cgocable.net) |
| 22:27.18 | scx | hello: :E I forgot how to mount a .iso file: :_ |
| 22:27.29 | gsnedders | what's a good, realiable, ntp server? |
| 22:27.30 | scx | mount -t iso9660 file folder ??? |
| 22:27.32 | joe- | how many cds is debian? I see 14 ISOs.. is it really that many? |
| 22:27.39 | EdibleText | scx, mount the.iso /mountpoint -o loop |
| 22:27.41 | *** join/#debian TiMiDo (n=deb@unaffiliated/timido) |
| 22:28.13 | Metrics | joe: You only really need the first one for the base install. But yes, the 15000 packages do span a few CDs. |
| 22:28.14 | gsnedders | joe-, you can download the netboot CD which installs things over the internet |
| 22:28.15 | *** join/#debian yogurt2ungue (n=yogurt2u@44-170-114-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 22:28.20 | silverton | I do leave "security = user" commented so that it will accept anonymous connections? |
| 22:28.24 | scx | EdibleText: yes, THANKS ! |
| 22:28.32 | gsnedders | joe-, if the computer your installing it on it connected to the internet |
| 22:28.43 | EdibleText | scx, -o loop is the important part.. mount will default to -t auto and figure outthat the isop is iso9660 |
| 22:29.46 | *** join/#debian Snorre (n=billybob@84-217-112-88.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 22:29.52 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: getting failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel .... |
| 22:30.00 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:30.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 791] by debhelper |
| 22:30.54 | phogg | joe-: Debian Sarge is the biggest distro that exists and yes it is 14 CDs. But you don't need that many if you have broadband. Just get the netinst CD. |
| 22:31.13 | repp | Ok, I just did an upgrade and now my WIFI has stopped working. I'm getting a lot of these in my syslog: Nov 8 14:15:12 localhost udev_run_hotplugd[6026]: add_matching_files: unable to open '/etc/hotplug.d/default': No such file or directory --- Anyone have insight on this? |
| 22:31.15 | *** join/#debian davi_ (n=davi@215.Red-80-25-136.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:31.50 | Snorre | anyone up for some newbe quiz about mouse install ?? |
| 22:31.55 | *** join/#debian enerv (n=enerv@201009047191.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 22:32.04 | joe- | ok thanks.. i'll do that |
| 22:32.06 | teclo | Is the Adaptec ATA/RAID 1200A supported in Debian GNU/Linux ? |
| 22:32.19 | *** join/#debian Squarepants (n=paladin@dyn47.kif7.nas.panafonet.gr) |
| 22:32.26 | jlj46 | Snorre: lets hear it |
| 22:32.37 | repp | teclo: google has your answer |
| 22:32.41 | Squarepants | what is the difference between the LANG and the LANGUAGE environment variables in the /etc/environment? |
| 22:32.44 | *** part/#debian silverton (n=Fry@c-24-16-217-206.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 22:32.54 | rr72 | echo them and see |
| 22:33.01 | gsnedders | how long should rdate take to run? |
| 22:33.01 | beoba | keikoz: quitter |
| 22:33.11 | keikoz | ? |
| 22:33.13 | rr72 | depends on many things |
| 22:33.18 | *** part/#debian meriad (i=mreith@snoid.gfed.net) |
| 22:33.27 | *** join/#debian _magnetic (n=magnetic@82.198.38.157) |
| 22:33.38 | Squarepants | rr72, i see they have different values, but what are they for? |
| 22:33.53 | rr72 | i don't know |
| 22:33.57 | *** join/#debian lxIT (n=lx@d515368D7.access.telenet.be) |
| 22:33.58 | *** join/#debian JmGV (n=jgomez@222.Red-83-36-153.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:33.58 | rr72 | just a suggestion |
| 22:34.09 | abrotman | remyforbes777: are you running debian ? |
| 22:34.21 | *** join/#debian IPIXNIC (i=sublime@subshop.nu) |
| 22:34.22 | Snorre | ok . i cant get this XFree86 to work error 104. i think that my mouse is not working . how do i know with device i should use ?? |
| 22:34.23 | JmGV | i would like to know if there any way to install kernel 2.6.x without compile it in debian |
| 22:34.23 | x64 | When i add a new user... and try login to it via ssh (on putty) i get "Connection Terminated Unexpecadly" .... yet older accounts work fine 0.o |
| 22:34.26 | JmGV | using apt-get |
| 22:34.27 | *** join/#debian ziupiu (n=ziupiu@62.13.172.78) |
| 22:34.29 | remyforbes777 | yeah |
| 22:34.34 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: yeah |
| 22:34.34 | abrotman | remyforbes777: before you isntall it .. dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 22:34.34 | lxIT | halo |
| 22:34.39 | lxIT | hello, I mean |
| 22:34.47 | Snorre | its a ps/2 |
| 22:34.55 | JmGV | x64 go to /etc/passwd and ensure it has a valid shell |
| 22:35.02 | marculix | gsnedders: on my box rdate runs 0.67s real |
| 22:35.17 | remyforbes777 | ok |
| 22:35.18 | x64 | ok JmGV |
| 22:35.19 | fbi | Snorre: with s scroll wheel? |
| 22:35.21 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: ok |
| 22:35.26 | JmGV | i would like to know if there any way to install kernel 2.6.x without compile it in debian |
| 22:35.27 | fbi | s/s/a/ |
| 22:35.27 | Snorre | no |
| 22:35.28 | scx | EdibleText: yes, but it's read only |
| 22:35.33 | gsnedders | marculix, whatever server I use it just hangs... nothing happen |
| 22:35.35 | lxIT | I'm trying to setup powernowd, but my /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0 is empty, so it can't read my cpu-freq. |
| 22:35.47 | Snorre | just a 2 button ms mouse |
| 22:35.50 | lxIT | I loaded all necessary modules, I think.. |
| 22:35.56 | *** join/#debian ldonesty (n=ldonesty@host162-109.pool80183.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:35.57 | teclo | well from what I found on the web, it appears the Adaptec ATA/RAID 1200 is not supported. However, ATA/RAID card from other manufacturers are supported... this is weird... |
| 22:36.07 | marculix | gsnedders: use e.g. 'rdate -p ethz.ch' for instance: |
| 22:36.08 | marculix | time rdate -p ethz.ch |
| 22:36.08 | marculix | Tue Nov 8 23:35:07 2005 |
| 22:36.08 | marculix | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.08 | *** part/#debian marculix (n=mgzh@gw.ptr-80-238-132-15.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 22:36.21 | phogg | whee... can't reinstall aptitude because of conflicts. |
| 22:36.23 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: done that, now should I try to install it? |
| 22:36.36 | scx | EdibleText: I have an .iso with 705MB so, doesn't fit for 2MB, I want to delete a single .ogg to free space, but,... |
| 22:36.54 | gsnedders | marculix: thanks, that server worked :) |
| 22:37.00 | fbi | Snorre: reconfigure X and use /dev/imput/mice, if that doesn't work use /dev/psaux |
| 22:37.04 | scx | EdibleText: by the way,.. It's a live cd |
| 22:37.05 | fbi | err |
| 22:37.11 | fbi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:37.13 | *** join/#debian snowgeese (n=josh@daphmb01dc1-217-88.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 22:37.20 | *** join/#debian jcurry (n=jcurry@mcha-aj145.taconic.net) |
| 22:37.41 | Snorre | ok i'll try with /dev/psaux |
| 22:38.02 | *** join/#debian marculix2 (n=mgzh@gw.ptr-80-238-132-15.customer.ch.netstream.com) |
| 22:38.05 | abrotman | remyforbes777: sure |
| 22:38.10 | lxIT | anyone an idea why my /sys/.../cpu0/ is empty? |
| 22:38.26 | x64 | what would be a sensible permission for /home/ ? |
| 22:38.31 | repp | teclo: yes, the information on your hardware is pretty sketchy. |
| 22:38.35 | abrotman | remyforbes777: i'm headed home .. i'll be back later |
| 22:38.47 | *** part/#debian brdweb (n=mitch@69.253.199.225) |
| 22:38.52 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: ok, same error though |
| 22:38.53 | *** join/#debian rutski89 (n=rutski89@ool-44c6435b.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 22:39.04 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: talk to you later |
| 22:39.07 | abrotman | remyforbes777: ok .. you can either have someone else here help you .. or wait til i return .. |
| 22:39.13 | remyforbes777 | ok |
| 22:39.53 | gsnedders | argh! i always type pcio! :) |
| 22:39.59 | scx | How do I mount an .iso rw to edit it ???? |
| 22:40.01 | jcurry | I get "[sshd] fatal: PAM: pam_setcred(): Permission denied" when trying to ssh in to my server...what is wrong? |
| 22:40.35 | ziupiu | scx, you can't |
| 22:40.56 | scx | I see,... |
| 22:41.08 | Snorre | something is wrong ! x86OpenSerial: cant open device : /dev/input/mouse . this is NOt what i wrote. can i lode the wrong config file ?? |
| 22:41.20 | dondelelcaro | scx: you mount it through a loopback, copy it out, make changes, and mkisofs it. |
| 22:41.28 | *** join/#debian MelkorD (n=MorgothD@cgd82.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:41.35 | fbi | Snorre: did you edit XF86Config-4 ? |
| 22:41.38 | dondelelcaro | (you could also unionfs it, and then mkisofs it...) |
| 22:41.43 | x64 | Whats the command for checking permissions again? .. ls -? |
| 22:41.53 | dondelelcaro | x64: ls -l; stat; ... the list continues. |
| 22:42.04 | x64 | thanks |
| 22:42.27 | Snorre | no . i just typed xf86config .... |
| 22:42.28 | scx | dondelelcaro: if that's bootable it will boot normally right ? |
| 22:42.38 | fbi | Snorre: don't use that, you need to fix that now |
| 22:42.39 | resiak | Is anyone else experiencing not being able to switch VTs from Xorg? Any known resolution? |
| 22:42.41 | *** part/#debian gsnedders (n=gsnedder@host86-137-238-12.range86-137.btcentralplus.com) |
| 22:42.45 | fbi | !tell Snorre about xmd5 |
| 22:42.48 | dondelelcaro | scx: no. You'll need to pass the proper eltorito options to mkisofs. |
| 22:42.56 | EdibleText | scx, you have to man mkisofs.. |
| 22:43.01 | fbi | err. what happened to that factoid? |
| 22:43.17 | *** join/#debian phretor (n=phretor@host93-67.pool8256.interbusiness.it) |
| 22:43.20 | phretor | hi there |
| 22:43.29 | *** join/#debian blastnost (n=boolean@ppp70-238.lns1.mel2.internode.on.net) |
| 22:43.34 | dondelelcaro | resiak: if they are, there would be a bug against it... |
| 22:43.41 | scx | I see,. |
| 22:43.44 | *** join/#debian smagy2 (i=dummy@65.214.56.61) |
| 22:43.53 | Snorre | so now i busted then or ?? |
| 22:43.54 | scx | * /me has gone read,... |
| 22:44.03 | *** join/#debian wireddd (n=wired@68-117-215-114.dhcp.athn.ga.charter.com) |
| 22:44.05 | *** part/#debian microSH (n=macroSH@e178096066.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 22:44.07 | fbi | Snorre: no, but the factoid i was trying to show you is gone |
| 22:44.39 | fbi | Snorre: at the top of XF86Config-4 it tells you what to do, don't use xf86config, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:44.49 | *** join/#debian Cokidi (n=Cokidi@201.14.229.180) |
| 22:44.56 | Snorre | ok i'll try |
| 22:45.06 | *** join/#debian EdgEy (n=edgey@adsl-83-100-173-135.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 22:45.10 | resiak | dondelelcaro: I have checked the BTS, and there is no bug. I'm currently diffing my old xorg.conf against the new one to see where the change comes from, but thought i'd idly ask here in the meantime while I dig out my backup. |
| 22:45.14 | *** part/#debian Cokidi (n=Cokidi@201.14.229.180) |
| 22:45.19 | *** join/#debian Firestarter2 (n=Firestar@AC9BCC15.ipt.aol.com) |
| 22:45.58 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: no, xmd5 is <reply> see x md5sum |
| 22:45.58 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: okay |
| 22:46.01 | *** join/#debian Yodabunny (n=shane@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871819.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:46.07 | Yodabunny | #ubuntu |
| 22:46.16 | fbi | dondelelcaro: cheers |
| 22:46.17 | dondelelcaro | stew: please check the factoids if you change them... |
| 22:46.17 | *** part/#debian Yodabunny (n=shane@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871819.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:46.24 | fbi | Snorre: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 22:46.43 | dondelelcaro | (assuming you were the one who broke it, anyway) |
| 22:46.44 | *** join/#debian ilvecchioalex (n=alessand@81-208-83-237.fastres.net) |
| 22:47.02 | *** join/#debian funka543on (n=none@62.38.116.213) |
| 22:47.08 | *** join/#debian ephesus (n=kvirc@vodsl-2201.vo.lu) |
| 22:47.29 | *** join/#debian shulik (n=alex@c-24-2-168-50.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 22:47.34 | x64 | Can anyone help please? .. when i create a new user and try login to ssh(with putty) i get "Server unexpectadly closed network connection" after entering the user+password |
| 22:47.42 | *** join/#debian HeavenWarrior (n=heaven@85.187.162.54) |
| 22:47.44 | *** join/#debian cmm (n=cmm@85-65-72-60.barak-online.net) |
| 22:47.59 | *** join/#debian lir-away (i=liran@versus.co.il) |
| 22:48.03 | dondelelcaro | x64: check the ssh logs; make sure that putty is trying to use ssh2 not ssh1. |
| 22:48.20 | mirak | is reiser4 ok to use or not ? |
| 22:48.42 | dondelelcaro | mirak: is your data ok to lose or not? |
| 22:48.45 | x64 | Can you tell me where the ssh logs are dondelelcaro? please |
| 22:48.49 | cmm | ooh, look people are talking about ssh! is there some sort of debian-specific ssh-agent FAQ or anything of the sort? |
| 22:48.51 | streuner | dpkg filesystems |
| 22:48.52 | dpkg | Journaling filesystems in a nutshell: <peterS> fast but dangerous: reiserfs. slow but reliable: ext3. fast, mostly reliable, and *huge*: xfs. medium speed, probably reliable: jfs. unknown, probably buggy: reiser4. If you have to ask, use ext3, or see http://fsbench.netnation.com/ |
| 22:49.01 | cmm | because it looks like I'm missing something bloody obvious |
| 22:49.07 | mirak | dondelelcaro: no |
| 22:49.19 | mirak | dondelelcaro: I might try on my /root |
| 22:49.46 | *** part/#debian HeavenWarrior (n=heaven@85.187.162.54) |
| 22:50.04 | x64 | Can anyone please tell me where i can find my ssh logs? |
| 22:50.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 784] by debhelper |
| 22:50.21 | *** join/#debian Cokidi (n=Cokidi@201.14.229.180) |
| 22:50.35 | *** join/#debian morgan (n=morgan@83.141.85.191) |
| 22:50.37 | Squarepants | ???? |
| 22:50.38 | mirak | dondelelcaro: is it real suicide ? |
| 22:50.50 | Ronin | x64: /var/log/ |
| 22:51.02 | *** join/#debian laurens_ (n=laurens@213-193-182-140.adsl.easynet.be) |
| 22:51.08 | cmm | so, I have ssh-agent running, I've done 'ssh-add', and ssh still asks for password. why would it do this to me? |
| 22:51.11 | *** join/#debian Kevin`__ (i=1000@host-69-95-140-154.pit.choiceone.net) |
| 22:51.17 | x64 | i looked there Ronin, i don't see them |
| 22:51.37 | Ronin | then look in your conf file,see if you changed thier location |
| 22:51.42 | Ronin | hell is it even set to log? |
| 22:51.47 | SimonRaven | cmm: apt-get install keychain |
| 22:51.57 | x64 | *checks* 8-) |
| 22:52.01 | SimonRaven | cmm: keychain --help; read |
| 22:52.09 | Snorre | well the mouse started to work allright |
| 22:52.32 | SimonRaven | !dict allright |
| 22:52.34 | dpkg | could not find definition for allright |
| 22:52.45 | jcurry | I get "[sshd] fatal: PAM: pam_setcred(): Permission denied" when trying to ssh in to my server...what is wrong? |
| 22:52.55 | *** join/#debian Yodabunny (n=shane@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871819.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:52.58 | Yodabunny | HI |
| 22:52.59 | Fackamato | hi |
| 22:53.08 | Fackamato | what's the syntax for the d (delete) command in fdisk? |
| 22:53.13 | Fackamato | I can't seem to be able to delete a partition |
| 22:53.14 | *** join/#debian Walling (n=Walling@horse05.daimi.au.dk) |
| 22:53.16 | Yodabunny | any idea why I get X connection to :0.0 broken (explicit kill or server shutdown). |
| 22:53.16 | Yodabunny | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.23 | Fackamato | it only says 'cant delet epartition 0' or shows me the partition table. |
| 22:53.47 | SimonRaven | user error... |
| 22:54.03 | *** join/#debian reticent (n=reticent@207-232-98-114.ip.van.radiant.net) |
| 22:54.14 | Barnes | Fackamato d then number |
| 22:54.40 | Fackamato | I've tried d1, d0, d2, d3 etc and d 0, d 1, d 2 etc |
| 22:54.42 | Fackamato | same stuff |
| 22:54.46 | *** part/#debian Snorre (n=billybob@84-217-112-88.tn.glocalnet.net) |
| 22:54.47 | cmm | SimonRaven: I don't see how keychain is supposed to help. do you have reason to believe it'll help or are you just throwing out suggestions from some mental list? |
| 22:54.48 | Barnes | just d |
| 22:54.54 | Barnes | then return |
| 22:54.56 | Barnes | then number |
| 22:55.38 | SimonRaven | cmm: 1) i'm trying to help 2) don't fucking snarky 3) and yes, it does help. avoids having to do that manually. *plonk* |
| 22:55.41 | Fackamato | if I type d, press return it immediatly says "could not delete partition 0" |
| 22:55.57 | SimonRaven | asshole |
| 22:56.02 | cmm | SimonRaven: avoid doing *what* manually, exactly? |
| 22:56.16 | cmm | I have ssh-agent running |
| 22:56.18 | stew | dondelelcaro: which factoid? |
| 22:56.21 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 22:56.45 | Barnes | Fackamato p enter |
| 22:56.49 | Barnes | what does it say |
| 22:56.55 | Baeaeken | Gah, how do I make alias permanent for _all_ users since only root can read ~./bashrc? |
| 22:56.57 | dondelelcaro | xmd5; I think you mised that it was one of the <reply> see foo; factoids |
| 22:57.04 | dondelelcaro | Baeaeken: /etc/profile |
| 22:57.14 | stew | dondelelcaro: oh xmd5? i didn't break that: Oct 06, 2005: 14:07 < stew> !no xmd5 is <reply> see x md5sum |
| 22:57.25 | dondelelcaro | stew: ah; must have been someone else. |
| 22:57.25 | stew | dondelelcaro: on Oct. 6 i fixed a bunch of them |
| 22:57.32 | dondelelcaro | stew: nevermind then. ;-) |
| 22:57.40 | *** part/#debian jcurry (n=jcurry@mcha-aj145.taconic.net) |
| 22:57.43 | dondelelcaro | stew: you were just listed as the last modifier, so I guessed it was you. |
| 22:57.45 | Baeaeken | dondelelcaro: And there make the alias ls='ls --color' ? |
| 22:57.46 | Fackamato | Barnes hold on a sec |
| 22:57.57 | dondelelcaro | Baeaeken: if that's what you want to alias, yes. |
| 22:58.00 | *** join/#debian tullaris_ (i=tullaris@247.Red-83-52-192.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:58.11 | *** join/#debian pipeline (i=fc9a98c1@pcp01052132pcs.muncie01.in.comcast.net) |
| 22:58.13 | stew | dondelelcaro: np :) |
| 22:58.27 | Baeaeken | dondelelcaro: Feelin bright tonight. |
| 22:58.51 | *** part/#debian Yodabunny (n=shane@Toronto-HSE-ppp3871819.sympatico.ca) |
| 22:59.07 | tullaris_ | hello |
| 22:59.19 | *** part/#debian pipeline (i=fc9a98c1@pcp01052132pcs.muncie01.in.comcast.net) |
| 22:59.27 | *** join/#debian websdale (n=andy@cpc1-lewi1-3-0-cust196.bmly.cable.ntl.com) |
| 22:59.44 | *** join/#debian fevel (i=renato@200141252170.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 23:00.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 772] by debhelper |
| 23:00.32 | Baeaeken | Wtf...doesn't work. |
| 23:01.30 | *** join/#debian klock (n=klock@adsl-66-72-46-149.dsl.covlil.ameritech.net) |
| 23:01.41 | *** join/#debian cyteen (n=soatola@82.152.197.206) |
| 23:01.58 | kenboo | Baeaeken, did you logout & login? |
| 23:02.35 | Baeaeken | kenboo: Hm...thought I'd just had to write. |
| 23:02.35 | stew | dondelelcaro: actually does the last modified by field ever get updated in dpkg's database? |
| 23:03.18 | *** join/#debian EdgEy (i=edgey@adsl-83-100-173-135.karoo.KCOM.COM) |
| 23:03.37 | *** join/#debian herbi (n=herbinet@c211-30-119-100.carlnfd2.nsw.optusnet.com.au) |
| 23:03.40 | Fackamato | bah |
| 23:03.53 | Fackamato | I can't seem to delete the partitions, no matter the syntax of the d command |
| 23:04.05 | *** join/#debian metronoventa (n=pem@90.Red-83-35-145.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:04.08 | fevel | is there a diference beetween installing a kernel with synaptic and compiling it from kernel.org |
| 23:04.10 | fevel | ?? |
| 23:04.21 | Fackamato | Barnes p > enter shows the partition tables, hold on a sec I'll give you a screen |
| 23:04.51 | *** join/#debian Kvant (i=hh@h26n9c1o848.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 23:04.56 | Fackamato | Barnes www.tehjunkyard.net/fdisk.png |
| 23:05.10 | penguin__ | What is command to get package to reconfigure itself? |
| 23:05.11 | *** join/#debian luulis (n=l@cs78239198.pp.htv.fi) |
| 23:05.21 | Fackamato | dpkg-reconfigure package |
| 23:05.22 | Fackamato | ? |
| 23:05.35 | penguin__ | thanks |
| 23:05.57 | *** join/#debian don__ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 23:06.00 | Fackamato | np |
| 23:06.22 | Kerr | !cedega |
| 23:06.23 | dpkg | hmm... cedega is the new name for Transgaming's WineX - a proprietary fork of WINE designed to play Windows games. Limited CVS available at http://transgaming.org/cvs/ but missing key components such as copy protection or installshield functionality, or http://timedoctor.org/boycott_winex.php, or and the packaging saga summarised at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg02823.html |
| 23:06.36 | *** join/#debian magnetic_ (n=magnetic@82.198.38.157) |
| 23:06.51 | penguin__ | Got it work on reconfiguration |
| 23:07.21 | *** join/#debian Azar (n=hammer@h-66-166-120-13.lsanca54.covad.net) |
| 23:07.30 | *** join/#debian sidiot (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 23:07.31 | penguin__ | login disallowed for security reasons |
| 23:07.41 | *** join/#debian matsur (n=matsur@pool-68-161-85-40.ny325.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:07.50 | Barnes | Fackamato tryied google around abit? i havent got any problem with deleting in fdisk |
| 23:07.54 | penguin__ | I'll work on this tomorrow, Got it started though |
| 23:07.58 | Azar | anyone here using ProShield? is that as good as it looks? |
| 23:08.11 | Fackamato | Barnes yeah, just wondered if you could see any error in that pic |
| 23:08.16 | *** join/#debian thegraham (n=thegraha@88-105-9-17.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 23:08.21 | Fackamato | and how do you know what partition is what number |
| 23:08.22 | Barnes | no |
| 23:08.26 | Fackamato | I'm guessing 0 or 1 is first |
| 23:08.27 | matsur | How can I write an iptables rule to block all traffic on port 3724? iptables -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 3724 -j DROP doesnt seem to work |
| 23:08.33 | Fackamato | but doesn't work, damnit. |
| 23:08.36 | Barnes | 1-4 |
| 23:09.04 | Kerr | anyone know if someone is debifying cedega cvs ? i googled a 4.something, but it's old.. |
| 23:09.15 | Azar | matsur, you could dissalow all ipchains then write only the ones you want to use |
| 23:09.25 | *** join/#debian dahlman (i=dahlman@ua-83-227-170-200.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 23:09.35 | fevel | how do I add non-free to the source.list |
| 23:09.37 | *** join/#debian jjazz (n=jjazz@pool-162-84-196-241.ny5030.east.verizon.net) |
| 23:09.43 | fevel | I already have testing main |
| 23:09.47 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 23:09.57 | thegraham | how do I get a new security certificate for uw-imap-ssl |
| 23:09.58 | Azar | fevel, append non-free at the end of the links |
| 23:10.08 | cmm | SimonRaven: for your benefit (so you'll be more helpful in the future): mention ~/.ssh/authorized_keys before you mention keychain. |
| 23:10.18 | cmm | dumbass |
| 23:10.24 | dahlman | buhuu....i belive my server got hacked today. seems like my server is sending a bunch of stuff to google.com.ar :( |
| 23:10.25 | *** join/#debian Condector (n=Condecto@200-163-45-247.cpece705.e.brasiltelecom.net.br) |
| 23:10.29 | *** part/#debian cmm (n=cmm@85-65-72-60.barak-online.net) |
| 23:10.37 | fevel | Azar: dont you mean change the "main" to "non-free" |
| 23:10.58 | Azar | fevel, no, add it after main: ...... main non-free |
| 23:11.09 | *** part/#debian Jooon_ (n=jooon@himemiya.aslund.org) |
| 23:11.10 | *** join/#debian roral (i=Muffin@h154.136.255.206.cable.pnbl.cablelynx.com) |
| 23:11.14 | *** join/#debian vini (n=vini@201.11.236.165) |
| 23:11.16 | *** join/#debian calmar (i=calmar@84-73-254-88.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:11.30 | *** part/#debian vini (n=vini@201.11.236.165) |
| 23:11.37 | remyforbes777 | what is the name for the ncurses package |
| 23:11.39 | Azar | ProShield anyone? |
| 23:11.41 | *** part/#debian Aridese (n=Tim@69.182.164.236) |
| 23:11.44 | Phated | remyforbes777: libncurses5-dev |
| 23:11.55 | remyforbes777 | phated: thanks |
| 23:12.00 | fevel | Azar: should I recopy the link and append non-free or should I just append it? |
| 23:12.17 | dahlman | dahlman: Seems like the traffik is generated from perl and i kill it over and over again but the pid just keep on coming back :( |
| 23:12.23 | Phated | fevel: Just append. |
| 23:12.29 | fevel | ok |
| 23:12.41 | *** join/#debian Javasnob (i=rob@kron2-44-67.resnet.wisc.edu) |
| 23:12.53 | Azar | ProShield is a security program for Debian Linux. It helps ensure your system is secure and up-to-date by checking many different aspects of your system. Regular use is recommended. |
| 23:12.53 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:13.21 | *** join/#debian morten (n=morten@217-13-16-218.dd.nextgentel.com) |
| 23:13.23 | *** join/#debian slackd00d (n=bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:13.24 | Azar | woo!! it means is new :) |
| 23:13.42 | dahlman | Could someone give me a couple of good hints of how to get my server back on feets again? I really want to avoid reinstall all stuff :) |
| 23:13.51 | *** join/#debian tuxlon (n=holger@201.151.105.199) |
| 23:14.09 | Javasnob | what's wrong with it? |
| 23:14.46 | fevel | Phated: can I append "contrib" too?? |
| 23:14.47 | Phated | fevel: Go right ahead. |
| 23:14.47 | Azar | fevel, sure |
| 23:14.49 | matsur | Azar, anyway to just disallow tcp on 3724? |
| 23:14.56 | *** join/#debian Xenguy (n=gnu@206-248-151-3.dsl.ncf.ca) |
| 23:15.14 | *** part/#debian scx (n=scx@dsl-200-67-190-204.prod-empresarial.com.mx) |
| 23:15.15 | Azar | matsur, sigh, I am just studying the iptables howto myself |
| 23:15.20 | fevel | when I append these commands, what am I actually doing?? |
| 23:15.23 | dahlman | Javasnob: I think its hacker, it connects to google, a lot when i check top. perl takes 97% of system usage. i can't kill that process. keeps coming back. When i do a netstat a lot of connections booming up |
| 23:15.39 | *** part/#debian wetlettuce (n=mark@tigger.wetlettuce.com) |
| 23:15.50 | Azar | fevel, you are redirecting the links to repositories |
| 23:16.23 | Xenguy | dahlman: tried 'chkrootkit' or 'rkhunter' ? |
| 23:16.30 | *** join/#debian theintern (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 23:16.35 | Azar | fevel, instructs the apt where to go look for packages |
| 23:16.53 | dahlman | xenguy: Nope what's that? Never heard of. I will google :) |
| 23:16.58 | Baeaeken | Gah, why won't my alias ls='ls --color' work in /etc/profile ? |
| 23:17.10 | *** join/#debian omry (n=Omry@IGLD-84-228-184-104.inter.net.il) |
| 23:17.17 | roral | dahlman: looking at 'ps aux | grep perl' may tell you what script is running, at least |
| 23:17.18 | *** join/#debian underdog (i=amedeiro@81.84.154.71) |
| 23:17.24 | RichiH | Baeaeken: prehaps it's not sourced? |
| 23:17.28 | Xenguy | Stormx2: lsof |grep LISTEN <-- works too (IIRC) |
| 23:17.33 | Xenguy | ww |
| 23:17.36 | fevel | Azar: I get it...So he will look in a directory called contrib AND in main AND in non-free right? |
| 23:17.42 | Azar | this looks really good I will install it |
| 23:17.44 | underdog | Hi everyone. I'm getting this error when trying to open gnome-terminal: "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" |
| 23:17.48 | Azar | fevel yes |
| 23:17.51 | Baeaeken | RichiH: Sourced? |
| 23:18.02 | underdog | i believe it might have something to do with the kernel, since I'm not using a stock one |
| 23:18.05 | Baeaeken | RichiH: Where can one change that? |
| 23:18.34 | roral | dahlman: both of those programs are packages in debian. |
| 23:18.52 | Xenguy | dahlman: two different programs that check for rootkits |
| 23:19.11 | *** join/#debian tonsofpcs (n=tonsofpc@ool-43540f3a.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 23:19.13 | dahlman | roral: Very good, iam reading about the in google now. Backdoor finders. What i nice thing :) |
| 23:19.25 | Azar | Baeaeken: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-tutorial/ch-shell.html |
| 23:19.38 | *** part/#debian mrec (n=revenger@p54B00A80.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:19.45 | Baeaeken | Azar: thx |
| 23:19.52 | matsur | Azar, yeah it was making my head hurt so I stopped trying to parse it |
| 23:20.01 | *** join/#debian dave_thomas (n=joe@s142-179-114-83.bc.hsia.telus.net) |
| 23:20.06 | ENd | i wish to take a vote: GNOME or KDE? |
| 23:20.07 | *** mode/#debian [+l 764] by debhelper |
| 23:20.11 | dave_thomas | i'm troubleshooting slow mail sending from outlook using exim with smtp auth...it looks like exim sends out a SYN to the client pc on port 113 that is never answered and times out. i send mail quite quickly from thunderbird and my pc responds with RST, ACK...anyone know of how to resolve this? |
| 23:20.13 | roral | dahlman: indeed. :) |
| 23:20.27 | joe- | will it cause problems installing debian on a slave drive? |
| 23:20.30 | Azar | matsur, iptables are not hard but it requires some tcp/ip knowledge which I am just learning now |
| 23:20.31 | rend | how can i query which package versions are available? |
| 23:20.41 | joe- | i have grub on the first HD |
| 23:20.50 | *** join/#debian gmanic (n=jens@dslb-082-083-196-104.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:20.58 | rend | like i wan a specific ruby version |
| 23:21.01 | Azar | ENd: Openbox for me |
| 23:21.07 | RichiH | ENd: kde |
| 23:21.13 | RichiH | ENd: but hey, it's your box |
| 23:21.19 | Javasnob | rend: apt-cache show <whatever package you want> will show the latest package available |
| 23:21.23 | *** join/#debian thehit (n=thehit@77.Red-83-41-175.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:21.26 | fbi | joe-: you can install linux on any disk, anywhere on the IDE |
| 23:21.26 | underdog | Hi everyone. I'm getting this error when trying to open gnome-terminal: "There was an error creating the child process for this terminal" |
| 23:21.26 | underdog | i believe it might have something to do with the kernel, since I'm not using a stock one |
| 23:22.51 | rend | i dont see startx on my system but i thought i installed it. i just need something small to run firefox. what should i do? |
| 23:23.17 | Azar | what is a Xconsole? |
| 23:23.28 | fbi | rend: install X and a window manager. |
| 23:23.38 | Javasnob | rend: try dpkg -l xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:23.42 | rend | gnome? |
| 23:23.52 | Javasnob | that'll tell you whether or not it's there |
| 23:23.53 | fbi | gnome is not a window manager, it's a desktop environment. |
| 23:24.20 | Javasnob | if not, try apt-get <window manager of your choice> |
| 23:24.30 | Javasnob | er, apt-get install <window manager of your choice> |
| 23:24.34 | *** join/#debian Maliuta (n=nikolai@203.194.20.86) |
| 23:24.38 | Maliuta | #linpeople |
| 23:24.58 | *** join/#debian don_ (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 23:25.59 | *** join/#debian LiquidAngle (i=liquidan@pool-71-110-91-217.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:26.01 | rend | whats a lightweight window manager? |
| 23:26.09 | repp | rend: twm |
| 23:26.14 | repp | rend: or ratpoison |
| 23:26.15 | Javasnob | it's just a window manager that's simple |
| 23:26.20 | *** join/#debian shai (n=shai@shaggy.cs.ucsb.edu) |
| 23:26.22 | fbi | rend: there's probably 40 or 50. |
| 23:26.24 | *** join/#debian black_Nightmare (n=Husky_dr@modemcable102.147-200-24.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 23:26.25 | black_Nightmare | hey there |
| 23:26.37 | Javasnob | I use Fluxbox, but twm's nice too |
| 23:26.37 | Azar | I wish to have my vim listed on a X console, instead I only see emacs (I have vim on a regular command line console) |
| 23:26.56 | Javasnob | Azar: So, a graphical version of VIM? |
| 23:26.58 | *** join/#debian luulis (n=l@cs78239198.pp.htv.fi) |
| 23:27.02 | Guerin | Azar: gvim |
| 23:27.11 | Azar | Javasnob, I guess so I am not sure VIM has one |
| 23:27.19 | Azar | thanks Guerin |
| 23:27.21 | black_Nightmare | just wondering but any of you know if there was like a list of supported modems for linux? (not cable modem, THAT other one) |
| 23:27.23 | black_Nightmare | :-p |
| 23:27.36 | Guerin | black_Nightmare: all real modems are supported |
| 23:27.51 | *** join/#debian ptlis (i=null@host-84-9-223-171.bulldogdsl.com) |
| 23:27.54 | Guerin | black_Nightmare: most winmodems aren't, unless you build the flakey drivers yourself |
| 23:28.01 | *** join/#debian shai (n=shai@shaggy.cs.ucsb.edu) |
| 23:28.05 | black_Nightmare | hmm |
| 23:28.12 | black_Nightmare | usb modems? |
| 23:28.23 | shai | hey why can't find -name "passwd*" -prune "/bla" work? |
| 23:28.26 | Guerin | black_Nightmare: generally not real. |
| 23:28.31 | black_Nightmare | hm |
| 23:28.51 | black_Nightmare | guess I'll see what I can find used from someone then... the retail serial modems seem expensive to me lol |
| 23:28.54 | Fackamato | oh my god |
| 23:29.08 | *** join/#debian drbombay_43 (n=drbombay@ppp-71-130-158-33.dsl.irvnca.pacbell.net) |
| 23:29.14 | nextime | shai : you need something like fine /start/path -name "passwd*" -prune |
| 23:29.20 | nextime | s/fine/find |
| 23:29.34 | Azar | hmm gvim does not work with openbox :( |
| 23:29.41 | nextime | ( man find is your friend ) |
| 23:29.42 | Guerin | Azar: yes, it does. |
| 23:29.53 | *** join/#debian swatikiss (n=swatikis@adsl-68-79-120-63.dsl.sfldmi.ameritech.net) |
| 23:29.56 | Azar | Guerin, I am looking at menu it did not shows up |
| 23:30.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 758] by debhelper |
| 23:30.14 | *** join/#debian rr72 (n=rr72@about/cooking/nakedchef/desserts/rr72) |
| 23:30.17 | Guerin | Azar: oh, so the menu doesn't work. |
| 23:30.24 | Guerin | Azar: that's not what you said. |
| 23:30.50 | Azar | sorry, I was just looking at Openbox Menu> Apps> Editors |
| 23:31.15 | Azar | got Nano, Emacs21 text and Emacs21 X11, and Xedit |
| 23:31.21 | Azar | no VIM or GVIM |
| 23:31.38 | Javasnob | Azar: open a console and run gvim |
| 23:31.48 | *** join/#debian ruipb (n=ruipb@85.138.28.143) |
| 23:31.57 | Javasnob | I don't know enough about openbox unfortunately |
| 23:31.58 | joe- | debian won't try and install on the primary partition will it? |
| 23:32.03 | *** join/#debian hoarycripple (n=hoarycri@208.27.3.38) |
| 23:32.14 | joe- | ie. it will give me a choice of installing on the slave drive |
| 23:32.31 | Azar | strange, xconsole : Coudn't open console |
| 23:32.34 | Azar | non responsive |
| 23:32.34 | roral | joe-: the installer will let you choose that sort of thing, yes |
| 23:32.50 | *** join/#debian faw (n=felipe@200.103.139.116) |
| 23:33.10 | roral | joe-: You can choose what filesystems to mount on what drives |
| 23:33.34 | repp | Azar: perhaps you should try KDE or Gnome? |
| 23:33.43 | *** join/#debian mdewand (n=mdewand@24-181-239-217.dhcp.oxfr.ma.charter.com) |
| 23:33.54 | *** join/#debian lordnightwinter (n=lordnigh@cpe-065-184-247-195.ec.res.rr.com) |
| 23:33.59 | Azar | well, I can run vim on terminal mode, it is ok |
| 23:34.12 | Azar | wanting more gadgets is of no use |
| 23:34.17 | Guerin | there's almost never a good reason to run an x-mode editor |
| 23:34.28 | Azar | Guerin, right |
| 23:34.32 | *** join/#debian messia (n=juve@host218-190.pool8261.interbusiness.it) |
| 23:34.33 | *** join/#debian diana (n=diana@137.125.105.12) |
| 23:34.36 | diana | http://pastebin.com/422427 |
| 23:34.41 | *** join/#debian rend__ (n=rend@cpe-67-10-81-6.houston.res.rr.com) |
| 23:34.42 | diana | What is wrong with my apt-get? |
| 23:34.44 | *** join/#debian dub6 (n=dub@2002:cb60:9f83:0:0:0:0:1) |
| 23:34.49 | Guerin | if you invest time in learning it, you'll just be fucked when you have to go to console for remote admin or something |
| 23:34.50 | lordnightwinter | <--- Linux Noob. Good afternoon all, I was wondering if I could get a hand? |
| 23:35.03 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: don't you already have two? |
| 23:35.03 | Fackamato | ask addam's family |
| 23:35.04 | Fackamato | .P |
| 23:35.26 | lordnightwinter | doh.. lol |
| 23:35.27 | underdog | Guerin, Fackamato you guys are mean ;) |
| 23:35.32 | rend__ | what do i run to get a mouse in console? |
| 23:35.45 | Guerin | dub6: apt-get update |
| 23:35.48 | Guerin | rend__: gpm |
| 23:35.51 | Guerin | bah |
| 23:35.54 | Azar | rend__ why would you need a mouse in console? |
| 23:35.54 | *** join/#debian florent (n=florent@pluton.sarcelle.net) |
| 23:35.59 | Guerin | diana: apt-get update |
| 23:36.07 | diana | Guerin: I did that. |
| 23:36.10 | Guerin | Azar: same reason you want a mouse in X? |
| 23:36.13 | diana | i get the same messagee |
| 23:36.17 | Guerin | diana: same error? |
| 23:36.20 | Javasnob | diana: try a different mirror |
| 23:36.26 | Guerin | diana: change mirrors. |
| 23:36.27 | Azar | diana your sources list might not be correct |
| 23:36.29 | Guerin | yeh |
| 23:36.33 | lordnightwinter | I am having problems with my 16MB ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY on Linux, I selected 'ati' when installing and now I can't get a resolution above 800x600. I also can't figure out how to login to root to manage the packages. |
| 23:36.42 | *** join/#debian caps (n=tux@81.213.249.84) |
| 23:36.44 | caps | hi |
| 23:36.51 | diana | Guerin: yes |
| 23:36.58 | caps | how to clean Linux dns client cache |
| 23:36.59 | diana | Javasnob: I did...same error |
| 23:37.12 | *** join/#debian Probant (n=Probant3@Dbe6f.d.pppool.de) |
| 23:37.12 | caps | Msoft ipconfig /flushdns ok Linux ?? |
| 23:37.14 | diana | Guerin: I changed mirrors..same error. |
| 23:37.14 | *** join/#debian gothtec (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-6902.bb.online.no) |
| 23:37.15 | *** join/#debian kgbudz (n=rez@c-24-30-92-78.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:37.15 | Guerin | diana: choose ftp.kr.debian.org |
| 23:37.18 | diana | k |
| 23:37.28 | Azar | diana show Guerin how your sources are typed |
| 23:37.37 | repp | caps: there isn't such a thing... |
| 23:37.45 | *** join/#debian sandmanV1 (n=sandman@66-23-228-249.clients.speedfactory.net) |
| 23:37.50 | *** part/#debian ruipb (n=ruipb@85.138.28.143) |
| 23:37.54 | *** part/#debian sandmanV1 (n=sandman@66-23-228-249.clients.speedfactory.net) |
| 23:37.55 | kgbudz | im trying to cleanup some packages and kdebluetooth wont delete via apt-get |
| 23:37.58 | repp | caps: "linux" does not cache host names |
| 23:38.00 | *** part/#debian sidiot (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 23:38.00 | Guerin | !drxx lordnightwinter |
| 23:38.00 | kgbudz | and now i cant do anything |
| 23:38.02 | dpkg | lordnightwinter: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:38.13 | kgbudz | cause it always trys to remove kdebluetooth and fails |
| 23:38.15 | diana | lol Guerin |
| 23:38.21 | kgbudz | how do i forcefully remove it |
| 23:38.22 | diana | That mirror gives me 30B a second |
| 23:38.45 | Guerin | diana: funny, it gives me ~5 megabytes/sec |
| 23:38.47 | lordnightwinter | thanks dpkg, I'll try that now |
| 23:38.57 | *** join/#debian cddesjar (n=chris@71-32-213-194.hlna.qwest.net) |
| 23:39.06 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: you don't need to log into your windowing system as root to manage packages; you can start a package manager in a root terminal. |
| 23:39.18 | Guerin | kgbudz: fix whatever's causing it to fail. |
| 23:39.45 | *** join/#debian darky_ (n=darky@eur68-1-82-231-228-59.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:39.54 | *** join/#debian OleMoudi (n=TK422@215.Red-83-46-191.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:39.59 | Azar | I wish to install ProShield but when I ask aptitude install ProShield I get nothing, it is a Debian package |
| 23:40.14 | Azar | http://linux.softpedia.com/get/System/System-Administration/ProShield-6990.shtml# |
| 23:40.42 | Guerin | Azar: is it in the release of debian you're running? is it perhaps called something else? be advised that all debian packagenames are lowercase |
| 23:40.55 | kgbudz | i get a "mismatch on divert-to" error |
| 23:41.03 | kgbudz | what does that mean |
| 23:41.08 | Guerin | kgbudz: put the whole error on paster |
| 23:41.13 | Azar | I tried case, and lowercase: E: Couldn't find package proshield |
| 23:41.30 | Azar | strange is this is not announced at an official Debian website |
| 23:41.33 | Guerin | Azar: so it's not in the branch of debian you have. |
| 23:41.37 | *** part/#debian underdog (i=amedeiro@81.84.154.71) |
| 23:41.45 | Azar | so sad |
| 23:41.48 | Guerin | !find proshield |
| 23:42.08 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'proshield' returned no results. |
| 23:42.13 | *** part/#debian IsaacHaze (n=a@212-127-154-155.cable.quicknet.nl) |
| 23:42.24 | Guerin | Azar: package it up. |
| 23:42.31 | kgbudz | http://pastebin.com/422430 |
| 23:42.35 | kgbudz | scope it |
| 23:43.04 | omry | all the sudden, my xorg wont start bacuse it can't open the mouse (ps/2). |
| 23:43.09 | Azar | Guerin, I guess I will try to download/install using links |
| 23:43.12 | Azar | :( |
| 23:43.24 | Azar | I do not know how to package it |
| 23:43.25 | *** join/#debian slackd00d (n=bacardi@c-24-19-219-0.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 23:43.31 | Guerin | kgbudz: you're using knoppix. Ask #knoppix |
| 23:43.39 | *** join/#debian deconvolution (n=deconvol@cpc1-with3-4-0-cust140.bagu.cable.ntl.com) |
| 23:43.41 | *** join/#debian ananda (n=ananda@200.164.92.242) |
| 23:43.43 | Guerin | kgbudz: no arguments, we've heard them all before. |
| 23:44.03 | Guerin | omry: modprobe psmouse |
| 23:44.05 | kgbudz | what arguments should i pass? |
| 23:44.15 | Guerin | kgbudz: pass --knoppix-is-retarded |
| 23:44.18 | Guerin | that might work |
| 23:44.26 | fbi | !beer Guerin |
| 23:44.31 | Guerin | then again, since it's KNOPPIX and not DEBIAN, we wouldn't know |
| 23:44.38 | fbi | piraat? wtf |
| 23:44.42 | Guerin | arr! |
| 23:44.43 | fbi | that's a new one |
| 23:45.03 | black_Nightmare | hrm can't figure any good real modem :-S .. guess I'll have to go with windows |
| 23:45.07 | omry | Guerin, modprobe psmouse;cat /dev/psaux -> cat: /dev/psaux: No such device |
| 23:45.08 | lordnightwinter | okay, I am not exactly sure how to enter a root terminal, I opened a terminal but it will not let me change to login to root |
| 23:45.09 | *** part/#debian kgbudz (n=rez@c-24-30-92-78.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.31 | *** join/#debian EchsO (n=XOXOXO@pcp05048398pcs.ivylnd01.pa.comcast.net) |
| 23:45.32 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: type su <enter> |
| 23:45.34 | *** join/#debian maria (n=maria@144.Red-81-44-18.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 23:45.36 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: enter your root password |
| 23:45.39 | Azar | hmm why would say Debian DEB mirror when in fact the real url is prdownloads.sourceforge.net ? |
| 23:45.42 | *** join/#debian blank (n=nothing@pool-71-104-141-132.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:45.50 | blank | what |
| 23:45.55 | Guerin | !htfswk Azar |
| 23:45.56 | dpkg | Azar: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 23:45.58 | *** join/#debian BucWheat (n=user@adsl-66-138-232-17.dsl.okcyok.swbell.net) |
| 23:46.03 | blank | *what big differences are there between debian and ubuntu |
| 23:46.12 | deadcat | blank: name |
| 23:46.14 | deconvolution | hi, when I switch my user authentication to localhost ldap server in /etc/nsswitch.conf, then performing every command becomes very slow, is this common ? |
| 23:46.18 | Guerin | blank: one's run by a nonprofit, one's run by a company |
| 23:46.28 | blank | respectively? |
| 23:46.36 | deadcat | name |
| 23:46.39 | *** join/#debian luulis (n=l@cs78239198.pp.htv.fi) |
| 23:46.40 | Guerin | blank: for the technical differences, read the various package lists, changelogs and policy documents |
| 23:46.57 | blank | hmm...what differences can you name, what makes you use debian over ubuntu |
| 23:47.03 | Guerin | !why debian |
| 23:47.04 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
| 23:47.13 | astronut | blank: debian has a wider variety of packages, and is the source for ubuntu stuff |
| 23:47.18 | deadcat | simple. i like the name. |
| 23:47.20 | *** join/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@user-0c6t1rl.cable.mindspring.com) |
| 23:47.23 | *** join/#debian pihhan (n=pihhan@pihhan.cipis.net) |
| 23:47.25 | *** join/#debian Lilldude10 (n=jdouglas@daphmb01dc1-217-188.dynamic.mts.net) |
| 23:47.31 | astronut | they take debian, customize it, stabalize it, and release it, in a somewhat more friendly way |
| 23:47.41 | BucWheat | what file do you edit to remove Sessions in gdm ? |
| 23:47.47 | *** join/#debian [t0rc] (i=[t0rc]@ACA8653C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:47.53 | [t0rc] | could someone help me identify what's happening here? http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4229 |
| 23:48.02 | lordnightwinter | ah hah, thanks guerin |
| 23:48.17 | blank | ah, thanks |
| 23:48.26 | Guerin | [t0rc]: are you actually running debian, not ubuntu? |
| 23:48.34 | fbi | it's ubuntu. |
| 23:48.50 | rend__ | ii xserver-xfree8 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 the XFree86 X server |
| 23:48.54 | [t0rc] | Guerin: nope, ubuntu. but no one is of any assistance in those chans so i came here in hopes of some kind of solution... |
| 23:49.00 | Guerin | !they don't know |
| 23:49.01 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 23:49.05 | pihhan | hi |
| 23:49.11 | *** join/#debian ivan (n=zzZZzz@203-214-153-247.perm.iinet.net.au) |
| 23:49.23 | *** part/#debian surfdue (n=surfdue@unaffiliated/surfdue) |
| 23:49.53 | rend__ | ii xserver-xfree8 4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 the XFree86 X server - but why do i not have startx? |
| 23:50.04 | pihhan | have you any suggestions with kernel oops debugging? |
| 23:50.07 | Guerin | rend__: because startx is not in the x server |
| 23:50.12 | pihhan | some links or good advices? |
| 23:50.17 | Guerin | rend__: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 23:50.21 | [t0rc] | okay...i guess thanks... |
| 23:50.30 | lordnightwinter | okay, I am now in the right place to reconfigure but I don't see any options other than ATI, VGA, and VESA that might work. |
| 23:50.41 | lordnightwinter | Any suggestions or should I just search for a proper driver on google? |
| 23:50.52 | fbi | lordnightwinter: what graphics card. |
| 23:50.54 | *** join/#debian nkuttler (n=nkuttler@dslb-084-058-206-080.pools.arcor-ip.net) |
| 23:50.59 | lordnightwinter | 16MB ATI Radeon Mobility M6 LY |
| 23:51.03 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: if you can get 800x600, you don't nee to change the driver; you need to change the resolutions and possibly specify refresh rates |
| 23:51.05 | fbi | lordnightwinter: use ati. |
| 23:51.32 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: if you don't know which refresh rates and resolutions your kit can handle, find out with hwinfo --monitor |
| 23:51.42 | blank | i love this place, the bots, everything |
| 23:51.56 | *** join/#debian babar (n=babar@lns-bzn-18-82-248-210-37.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 23:52.01 | deadcat | use radeon |
| 23:52.12 | deadcat | use radeon; |
| 23:52.29 | *** part/#debian babar (n=babar@lns-bzn-18-82-248-210-37.adsl.proxad.net) |
| 23:52.31 | fbi | radeon in xfree86? hmm. |
| 23:52.33 | lordnightwinter | there is no radeon listed... the only refresh rate listed is 60hz which I know it supports |
| 23:52.33 | blank | <blank> haha, ther'es a windows channel |
| 23:52.33 | blank | <blank> how do I install libsdl and libgl |
| 23:52.33 | blank | <ControllerUK> unzip? |
| 23:52.34 | blank | <blank> ROFL |
| 23:52.34 | *** part/#debian blank (n=nothing@pool-71-104-141-132.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:52.49 | fbi | lordnightwinter: use ati. |
| 23:53.00 | fbi | there is no radeon in xfree86. |
| 23:53.02 | *** join/#debian blank (n=nothing@pool-71-104-141-132.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 23:53.11 | deadcat | idiot |
| 23:53.11 | *** join/#debian Skyscraper (n=PoHj@toronto-HSE-ppp4098093.sympatico.ca) |
| 23:53.13 | blank | i feel like trying debian (im running ubuntu), but what difference will it make |
| 23:53.20 | blank | lol, sorry |
| 23:53.22 | blank | didn' |
| 23:53.28 | blank | *didn't know flood protection was on |
| 23:53.32 | jbroome | to us? none. |
| 23:53.40 | repp | haha |
| 23:53.45 | *** join/#debian thingfish (n=mark@dialup-4.245.44.166.Dial1.StLouis1.Level3.net) |
| 23:53.45 | Guerin | blank: /msg dpkg flood |
| 23:54.09 | Guerin | blank: the only way to answer the question is to try |
| 23:54.40 | lordnightwinter | it says HWINFO does not exist |
| 23:54.47 | pihhan | blank, you will get nice configuration dialogs for system things |
| 23:54.48 | blank | yeah I guess you're right |
| 23:54.54 | blank | oh really, cool |
| 23:55.25 | *** join/#debian abrotman (n=abrotman@71.224.97.190) |
| 23:55.27 | pihhan | hm, my apache is so special |
| 23:55.39 | pihhan | it brought smp kernel to knees |
| 23:55.58 | Azar | I need help, I downloaded proshield .deb but I have no idea how to install it, looked online for help no HOWTO found |
| 23:56.11 | Guerin | !installit |
| 23:56.11 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 23:56.19 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: and it's not HWINFO, it's hwinfo |
| 23:56.31 | *** join/#debian l3m (n=l3m@84-73-58-72.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 23:56.36 | Azar | thanks Guerin |
| 23:56.45 | repp | Azar: man dpkg |
| 23:56.46 | Guerin | Azar: no, that was for lordnightwinter |
| 23:56.46 | *** join/#debian akusarujin (n=jeff@neverendnight.com) |
| 23:57.07 | rend__ | do i need to just install twm? when i start x it says: no session managers, no window managers, no terminal emulators found... aborting |
| 23:57.09 | lordnightwinter | Sorry about that, I did keep it case sensitive |
| 23:57.10 | Guerin | Azar: if this proshield doesn't have usable install documentation, it's not worth using. |
| 23:57.11 | pihhan | Azar, dpkg -i <package file> |
| 23:57.26 | Guerin | rend__: you didn't do what I told you. |
| 23:57.28 | BucWheat | !search dig |
| 23:57.31 | *** join/#debian BlueWings (n=BT@203.109.95.48) |
| 23:57.34 | Azar | :) thanks guys |
| 23:57.37 | Guerin | rend__: why not? Are you just trying to be annoying and stupid? |
| 23:57.43 | repp | rend__: export DISPLAY=:0.0; X & sleep 5; xterm |
| 23:58.23 | *** join/#debian Servo888 (n=Servo888@pcp0011429096pcs.sothfd01.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:58.28 | *** join/#debian Hhhhh (n=cristoba@c-67-169-244-47.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:58.32 | rend__ | Guerin: i did apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 23:58.33 | Hhhhh | hello |
| 23:58.38 | *** part/#debian [t0rc] (i=[t0rc]@ACA8653C.ipt.aol.com) |
| 23:58.39 | BucWheat | !search |
| 23:58.40 | dpkg | it has been said that search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache ... |
| 23:58.55 | *** join/#debian xiel (n=xiel@pcp08477368pcs.summit01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.03 | Guerin | rend__: if you had installed x-w-s-c then you'd have some x clients, whcih you don't. |
| 23:59.19 | Guerin | rend__: regardless, try installing another windowmanager |
| 23:59.30 | nkuttler | rend__: how do you start x? |
| 23:59.32 | *** join/#debian theintern (n=don@resnet-237-133.resnet.umbc.edu) |
| 23:59.34 | *** part/#debian xiel (n=xiel@pcp08477368pcs.summit01.tn.comcast.net) |
| 23:59.47 | rend__ | Guerin : i did exactly e_thomas: #debian () |
| 23:59.47 | rend__ | [gelignite ] [gerard_ ] [geordie |
| 23:59.52 | Azar | hey this program is really cool |
| 23:59.59 | Azar | thanks for the help guys |
