| 00:00.01 | Guerin | Azar: we don't care. |
| 00:00.06 | rend__ | # apt-get install x-window-system-core |
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| 00:00.15 | Hhhhh | question: I'm installing Sarge in an old computer (network install, base package already installed and rebooted) and when it asks me for the root password, after I enter it the second time, the screen goes black and there some bash script code on the screen for a few seconds, and then it resumes the installation process (asking for apt configuration, etc). Anybody else had this problem? |
| 00:00.21 | Azar | Guerin, I feel hurt |
| 00:00.21 | pihhan | is there reported any problems with 2.6.8-11-amd64-k8-smp kernel? |
| 00:00.27 | Azar | ..not |
| 00:00.31 | rend__ | nkuttler startx |
| 00:00.34 | abrotman | Hhhhh: does that mean you can't see anything ? |
| 00:00.41 | nkuttler | rend__: do you have an ~/.xsession file? |
| 00:00.47 | rend__ | no |
| 00:00.50 | abrotman | Hhhhh: did you try hitting ctrl? .. or did the HDD stop ? |
| 00:00.54 | repp | pihhan: I installed it on my PowerPC machine and my computer stopped booting. Not sure why. |
| 00:00.57 | Guerin | Hhhhh: what's the problem with that? |
| 00:01.06 | nkuttler | rend__: try echo exec twm > ~/.xsession and startx again |
| 00:01.07 | pihhan | repp, lol |
| 00:01.18 | pihhan | repp, i was serious |
| 00:01.40 | Hhhhh | abrotman, no, after I press enter after entering root password for first time, the screen goes black with a piece of bash script on it. After a fwe secs, installation resumes, but it never asked me to create any users |
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| 00:01.56 | Hhhhh | hdd didn't stop, after a few secs installation process resumed |
| 00:02.15 | abrotman | Hhhhh: but now it's blind ? |
| 00:02.23 | abrotman | Hhhhh: has this happened more than once ? |
| 00:02.25 | Azar | Guerin, I finally am able to do my first backup that is, if you care |
| 00:02.31 | Hhhhh | no, now it's just doing the network install, just like if nothing had happened |
| 00:02.39 | Hhhhh | and no, it only happened once |
| 00:02.43 | dli | recommend a job batching tool for clusters? |
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| 00:03.00 | abrotman | Hhhhh: i'd ask #debian-boot .. but i suspect it might be easier to just hit the reset switch :) |
| 00:03.24 | Hhhhh | abrotman, should I just reinstall everything? |
| 00:03.47 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: welcome back |
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| 00:03.52 | abrotman | Hhhhh: no .. it might just be there :) |
| 00:04.06 | abrotman | remyforbes777: only for a bit .. i gotta get out the frying pan |
| 00:04.17 | abrotman | remyforbes777: paste your error somewhere(not here) |
| 00:04.46 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: where? |
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| 00:04.57 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:04.57 | dpkg | from memory, paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 00:05.08 | Guerin | Azar: you were able to without that program |
| 00:05.10 | fwtest | hello, do you have any problem with thunderbird selecting wav file to be played if new mail arrives? |
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| 00:05.13 | cj | how do I ask apt to install a particular version of a package? |
| 00:05.21 | Guerin | cj: man apt |
| 00:05.27 | Guerin | cj: man apt-get |
| 00:05.34 | cj | thanks, Guerin |
| 00:05.44 | Guerin | cj: you're most welcome |
| 00:05.44 | cj | Guerin: I'm doing that now, but I figure someone may have the info cached |
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| 00:05.59 | Guerin | cj: package=version |
| 00:06.10 | cj | Guerin: thanks |
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| 00:06.39 | Azar | Guerin, I never figured out how to do that, but hey I was also able to block direct root user logins over ssh, which again I did not know how to |
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| 00:06.57 | Guerin | Azar: depending on your configuration, that may or may not be wise |
| 00:07.00 | foampeace | hellooo |
| 00:07.04 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: sorry I am not getting what you are saying , don't paste the error here in this room |
| 00:07.10 | Azar | Guerin, simple workstation, not server |
| 00:07.11 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:07.12 | dpkg | somebody said paste was Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 00:07.38 | remyforbes777 | ok |
| 00:07.40 | lordnightwinter | Damn, I still cannot figure out why I am getting graphical errors in 1024x768... hrm any more suggestions guys? |
| 00:07.56 | Tortel | get a better graphics card? |
| 00:07.58 | Guerin | lordnightwinter: what errors do you get when you try to start it in that mode? |
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| 00:08.13 | foampeace | what if apt had a hidden skip package hotkey like "s" to bypass an unwanted package until the specific apt-get install command is typed again |
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| 00:08.27 | Hhhhh | question: if I reset the machine in the middle of the network install, will it still try to do the first boot stuff the next time I turn it on? |
| 00:08.28 | lordnightwinter | I get graphical glitches, no error messages. |
| 00:08.47 | lordnightwinter | it's a laptop I don't have that option... lol card is kinda built in |
| 00:08.48 | abrotman | Hhhhh: it remembers |
| 00:08.51 | user12 | is firestarter a good firewall program for sarge? |
| 00:08.51 | abrotman | or shoudl anyways |
| 00:08.53 | everton | Hi, does someone can help me in using mkinitramfs? I need resize my / (root), so I will need to boot from my RAM |
| 00:09.12 | Guerin | foampeace: packages are installed in debian under two circumstances: 1; you specifically request that the package be installed, and 2; the package is required as a dependency of another package in 1; above |
| 00:09.36 | abrotman | Guerin: how did you decipher that ? |
| 00:09.39 | everton | I will need to add resize2fs on this boot |
| 00:10.02 | thingfish | boy really |
| 00:10.07 | Hhhhh | abrotman, in the process of first boot, right after setting up the root password, the next thing is to create users, right? |
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| 00:10.14 | abrotman | Hhhhh: normally |
| 00:10.22 | Guerin | abrotman: i think i'm still drunk from last night |
| 00:10.28 | omry | Guerin, it was mousedev, for some reason it didn't load anymore. |
| 00:10.32 | foampeace | Guerin: no change it that way slightly?? |
| 00:10.32 | Hhhhh | abrotman, before setting up hostname and apt? |
| 00:10.40 | Guerin | omry: oh, i lost the thread, but that was my next idea |
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| 00:11.05 | everton | s |
| 00:11.08 | omry | Guerin, ahh. too bad. :) |
| 00:11.08 | abrotman | Hhhhh: i think i've done what you're asking before .. if you want to make sure .. ask #debian-boot |
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| 00:11.23 | Guerin | foampeace: my point is: packages only get installed if you ask them to be installed. Why would you want to not install a package you asked to be installed? |
| 00:11.26 | user12 | what firewall is recommended in the debian manual? I don't have that page on this computer? |
| 00:11.32 | Guerin | omry: good work |
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| 00:12.07 | Guerin | user12: whichever you choose. Most people on linux use iptables, with or without a frontend like shorewall or firehol |
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| 00:12.11 | omry | Guerin, thanks. |
| 00:12.12 | foampeace | Guerin: sometimes it does install things we dont want? |
| 00:12.15 | remyforb1s777 | #flood |
| 00:12.16 | dli | user12: I use bastille + psad , for n00bs :) |
| 00:12.21 | Shockcore | anyone ever had trouble with sshd on 2.6.14 kernel ? |
| 00:12.23 | Guerin | user12: or none might be appropriate, depending on your setup. |
| 00:12.32 | Guerin | foampeace: nope. only what you tell it to. |
| 00:12.46 | user12 | right just looking for a frontend that works well with the starndard iptables |
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| 00:12.57 | Guerin | user12: i named two good ones |
| 00:12.59 | foampeace | but sometimes packages depend on a dummy |
| 00:13.08 | user12 | Guerin - i'll check em out - thx |
| 00:13.12 | dli | Shockcore, why does the kernel do to ssh? |
| 00:13.14 | abrotman | foampeace: they're DEPENDENCIES |
| 00:13.15 | Guerin | foampeace: that still falls within my statement above. |
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| 00:13.39 | Guerin | woo! |
| 00:13.42 | Shockcore | dli: booting with 2.4.31 no problem but with 2.6.14 cant connect with SSH |
| 00:13.43 | Guerin | no salt in the mines |
| 00:14.09 | foampeace | abrotman: why capitals like i dont understand the word |
| 00:14.24 | abrotman | foampeace: because you don't understand basic concepts apparently |
| 00:14.29 | dli | Shockcore, the client side or daemon? |
| 00:14.31 | Guerin | foampeace: you're not demonstrating understanding |
| 00:14.33 | foampeace | abrotman: i do so...you assume |
| 00:14.34 | Shockcore | deamon |
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| 00:14.45 | abrotman | foampeace: no .. the question you're asking shows a lack of understanding |
| 00:15.01 | abrotman | !fundamentals |
| 00:15.01 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
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| 00:15.06 | dUICE | ok i wanna install debian and im install the 100net install iso what is that? |
| 00:15.08 | foampeace | abrotman: im not saying its broken... |
| 00:15.17 | abrotman | i'm not saying you are :) |
| 00:15.23 | dli | Shockcore, can you ping it? can you run sshd in debug mode, "ssh -d -p " |
| 00:15.43 | everton | Hi, how do I boot from the file created by mkinitramfs????? |
| 00:15.48 | abrotman | fbi: 100MB |
| 00:15.55 | Guerin | everton: read the documentation for same |
| 00:15.57 | dUICE | netinst CD image is the iso im dl |
| 00:15.59 | thingfish | I gave up on wondering stuff, regarding this channel, long ago. |
| 00:16.13 | thingfish | any more, I just take another drink. |
| 00:16.14 | everton | Guerin: ok :/ |
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| 00:16.22 | foampeace | abrotman: whats painful about when you do a gnome install to say you dont want the fisheyes |
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| 00:16.38 | abrotman | foampeace: that's called a dependency |
| 00:16.49 | abrotman | foampeace: if it depends on fisheyes .. it depends on fisheyes |
| 00:16.52 | dUICE | i dont want to dl 8cds worth on a 56k modem line |
| 00:16.58 | Kamikazee | apt get wants to remove kcmlinuz - is it safe to do so? does this package have much effect on system? it says its a kde frontend to kernel config? |
| 00:17.00 | apt | Kamikazee: okay |
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| 00:17.12 | abrotman | apt: forget get wants to remove kcmlinuz - |
| 00:17.12 | apt | i forgot get wants to remove kcmlinuz -, abrotman |
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| 00:17.32 | foampeace | some people dont have enough room for fisheyes and fortune tellers |
| 00:17.34 | Shockcore | dli: yeah i can ping |
| 00:17.35 | fbi | great nick for a bot, especially in here |
| 00:18.19 | Kamikazee | yer |
| 00:18.26 | everton | Guerin: I red man of mkinitramfs, it says that the image is created and it will be booted before /. But where should I put this image created? |
| 00:18.38 | abrotman | foampeace: then don't install gnome ? |
| 00:18.40 | foampeace | linux is nice..but it seems to be splooging everything under the sun these days |
| 00:18.42 | abrotman | !install gnome |
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| 00:18.43 | dli | Shockcore, run "sshd -d -p" would expose the problem |
| 00:18.43 | dpkg | install gnome is, like, to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
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| 00:18.52 | abrotman | foampeace: learn what you're installing .. |
| 00:18.59 | Azar | this is interesting, using X on a terminal, opening up a second terminal as root , exits X in the first terminal |
| 00:19.00 | Guerin | foampeace: gnome is not linux |
| 00:19.05 | foampeace | abrotman: i already know |
| 00:19.10 | abrotman | no you don't |
| 00:19.13 | abrotman | jesus .. |
| 00:19.17 | Shockcore | ok |
| 00:19.23 | user12 | Guerin - Is there a gui frontent for shorwall or firhol? |
| 00:19.39 | Guerin | user12: dunno |
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| 00:19.45 | Tortel | shorewall- dont think so |
| 00:19.48 | fbi | user12: firestarter (maybe) |
| 00:19.49 | Kamikazee | soo... can i remove kcmlinuz ? |
| 00:19.55 | foampeace | yes i do...how do you know what i know |
| 00:19.59 | Guerin | resiak: yeah, that's pretty fucked. |
| 00:20.01 | Azar | Debian: a linux distro - linux is the kernel - gnome a simple X interface to Debian |
| 00:20.03 | user12 | fbi does firestarter us iproute ip tables |
| 00:20.16 | fbi | user12: no idea, i use straight iptables. |
| 00:20.17 | Guerin | Azar: s/linux/gnu+linux/ |
| 00:20.20 | jjazz | abrotman: I tried to tell my gf that I depend on boubon, but she gave me a cup of tea instead. Told me I don't know what's good for me. |
| 00:20.20 | sanoj | resiak: Look at the config files of yaird and you'll see why |
| 00:20.44 | resiak | sanoj: When it's installed I will, believe me. It's the most retarded dep I've _ever_ seen |
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| 00:20.54 | Azar | Guerin :) I was trying a simpler description |
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| 00:21.22 | dli | a vim question, how do I add a space after each character? |
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| 00:21.30 | Azar | foampeace: Debian linux = the table, gnome = the cake on the table |
| 00:21.31 | thingfish | I'm indulging my need for bourbon at this very moment. |
| 00:21.38 | Guerin | config files in xml, or worse, anything that requires a html parser, need to be bannx0red |
| 00:21.46 | abrotman | foampeace: because if you type apt-get install gnome .. then complain about gnome installing too much stuff .. you don't know what you're doing |
| 00:22.08 | resiak | Guerin: But it's NOT EVEN XML! |
| 00:22.08 | Guerin | Azar: in gnome's case, a big gaudy wedding cake with tinsel and sparkles, but not much flavour inside |
| 00:22.16 | resiak | Guerin: It's just for interpolating stuff! |
| 00:22.21 | Guerin | resiak: what is it? |
| 00:22.23 | Guerin | huh? |
| 00:22.29 | Guerin | what's wrong with POT |
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| 00:22.30 | Guerin | ? |
| 00:22.36 | foampeace | abrotman: it DEPENDS on the DEPENDENCY, so how could i not know |
| 00:22.39 | resiak | Guerin: I DON'T KNOW! |
| 00:22.40 | sanoj | resiak: I understand you :-) It is qa weird one |
| 00:22.42 | Azar | Guerin, indeed, gnome too ornated, openbox is more of a diet cake |
| 00:22.56 | resiak | sanoj: Fixing it is now on my todo list |
| 00:23.02 | jjazz | Azar, how does openbox compare to xfce4? |
| 00:23.04 | Guerin | Azar: diet implies no goodness |
| 00:23.11 | fbi | openbox and gnome can't even be compared |
| 00:23.13 | Tortel | gnome is the r-xx0rs |
| 00:23.14 | thingfish | kind of I think |
| 00:23.18 | Azar | jjazz, compare? |
| 00:23.18 | fbi | openbox is not a desktop environment |
| 00:23.21 | Guerin | jjazz: doesn't, really. They're different. |
| 00:23.23 | resiak | !start a wm war |
| 00:23.23 | dpkg | metacity blows chunks! |
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| 00:23.34 | Azar | Guerin, I love simplicity in foods and desktops |
| 00:23.41 | Guerin | openbox is a windowmanager with a gui menu and no panel, and an optional gui theme selector |
| 00:23.45 | Guerin | that's it |
| 00:24.01 | jjazz | Guerin, no clipboard? |
| 00:24.12 | thingfish | simplicity in foods is a good approach, if you have access to quality food items. |
| 00:24.17 | foampeace | abrotman: the thing is just i was making a point and it was overlooked and let go as mindless |
| 00:24.19 | resiak | Since when is a clipboard a WM function?! |
| 00:24.25 | abrotman | oh ffs *plonk* |
| 00:24.32 | Azar | jjazz, with openbox you get just a minimum of minimum, you add on it whatever you want piece by piece |
| 00:24.38 | Tortel | !smite |
| 00:24.38 | dpkg | All good deities can Smite(tm) |
| 00:24.45 | abrotman | !sing the smurfs theme song |
| 00:24.55 | resiak | !sing abrotman |
| 00:24.55 | dpkg | Oh, do you know abrotman, abrotman, abrotman. Oh, do you know abrotman, he lives on Drury Lane... |
| 00:25.06 | abrotman | yeah yeah |
| 00:25.07 | abrotman | close enough |
| 00:25.11 | fbi | !sing michael jackson thriller |
| 00:25.14 | fbi | :( |
| 00:25.14 | Azar | jjazz, I never used kde or gnome, I assume they come with lots of stuff, you might need or want or not |
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| 00:25.56 | fbi | of course they are bloated. they're 'desktop environments'. |
| 00:25.57 | jjazz | Azar, gnome seems like it gives too much. xfce4 gives less, but still more than I need. Maybe I'll look at openbox if I can add the stuff I realy need to it. |
| 00:25.58 | Azar | with openbox you only get a blank screen with a mouse pointer and some few menus nothing fancy |
| 00:26.07 | phaedral | ol' knoppix install finally crapped out; doing it right this time with the sarge netinst |
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| 00:26.08 | florent | dli: :%s/./& /g |
| 00:26.10 | phaedral | ; |
| 00:26.12 | foampeace | abrotman: hit "s" bypass package till next time. hand goes into dependency tree and pulls out package installs all andif it doesnt work it doesnt work, atleast you have the option |
| 00:26.16 | fbi | !beer phaedral |
| 00:26.27 | phaedral | mmmm, that was yummy! |
| 00:26.38 | jjazz | ew. Spaten Optimator sounds like something advertised in my spam emails |
| 00:26.50 | fbi | phaedral: don't tell your parents, we don't want dpkg to get arrested for contributing to minors. |
| 00:27.04 | thingfish | no Spaten makes some decent stuff. |
| 00:27.10 | phaedral | heh, been a while since I fell for an "age/gender check" |
| 00:27.11 | phaedral | ;) |
| 00:27.13 | Azar | jjazz, with openbox I had all I needed: a browser, it comes with four editors, access to terminals, I added xmms, gaim, a graphic editor. You could try adding more, myself is all I needed. |
| 00:27.19 | phaedral | jjazz: spaten is goodstuff |
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| 00:27.46 | jjazz | I'm a bourbon guy. Beer sits in the fridge until my guests drink it. |
| 00:27.50 | sanoj | resiak: Fixing what? |
| 00:27.51 | thingfish | although of course it's never going to be as good as your local microbrewery. |
| 00:27.54 | foampeace | whats all this i keep hearing about them wanting to implement a hit "s" skip to bypass package in dependency tree for uneeded things under dummy packages |
| 00:28.06 | dli | florent, thanks :) |
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| 00:28.21 | firepoop | i'm gonna go do exercise stuff |
| 00:28.40 | fbi | firepoop: trying to get rid of those moobs? |
| 00:28.48 | firepoop | yeah, that would help |
| 00:28.50 | firepoop | :( |
| 00:28.52 | Limbeaux | does anyone run an asterisk pbx on debian ? |
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| 00:29.06 | jjazz | Limbeaux, my office runs one |
| 00:29.19 | thingfish | jjazz: I like bourbon and ale/beer type things alot...I tend to drink these more in fall/winter, whereas in spring/summer I kind of like gin. |
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| 00:29.25 | firepoop | so the other day at work i was talking to this guy i was like "i have this problem.. about staring... at girl" then he laughs and is like "how would you like if i stared at your boobs' then stares at my boobs |
| 00:29.26 | firepoop | it was amusing |
| 00:29.33 | fbi | haha |
| 00:29.38 | Limbeaux | who do you use for you voip provider? |
| 00:29.45 | jjazz | thingfish, yes, gin is nice in the summer. I'l do bourbon year-round, though. |
| 00:29.48 | jjazz | Limbeaux, speakeasy.net |
| 00:29.51 | fbi | wait. that's not really funny if you think about it. |
| 00:29.54 | siriusnova | hi |
| 00:29.57 | siriusnova | how u guys doin |
| 00:30.01 | firepoop | Limbeaux: use broadvoice |
| 00:30.01 | fbi | !u |
| 00:30.01 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 00:30.08 | phaedral | 30 gig; was thinking basically 10 each to /, /home, /usr |
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| 00:30.10 | Mjelva | guys. i think i fuxed my .xinitrc. i made a really simple one, but how do i replace it for a proper one? can't start firefox without it, apparantly. is there somewhere on the internets i can get a new one? |
| 00:30.11 | siriusnova | hey mjelva |
| 00:30.16 | phaedral | comments? |
| 00:30.20 | cj | firepoop: woah there. speakeasy is my homies. |
| 00:30.20 | siriusnova | mjelva just install windows its easier |
| 00:30.20 | Mjelva | hey siriusnova <3 |
| 00:30.34 | Mjelva | i think you're pushing windows in the wrong place :( |
| 00:30.34 | siriusnova | fuk debian |
| 00:30.44 | Mjelva | :( |
| 00:30.46 | thingfish | that was just not nice. |
| 00:30.49 | firepoop | cj: broadvoice gets like mad good reviews and stuff |
| 00:30.58 | Guerin | jjazz: clipboard? X has one of those. |
| 00:31.06 | phaedral | is that a real live troll? |
| 00:31.08 | thingfish | nor was it spelled correctly. |
| 00:31.11 | cj | firepoop: *shrug* so does Speakeasy |
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| 00:31.16 | phaedral | s/is/was/ |
| 00:31.22 | firepoop | i know a guy who installs networks for countries in africa.. or at least that was his last job.... he has some type of asterisk certification.. he uses broadvoice |
| 00:31.27 | jjazz | Guerin, I thought xfce4 was providing it. I guess I was wrong. |
| 00:31.32 | cj | firepoop: and speakeasy has been around longer than broadvoice |
| 00:31.37 | firepoop | oh? |
| 00:31.58 | Guerin | jjazz: xfce might have one, but that's the difference between a desktop environment and a window manager |
| 00:32.14 | jjazz | firepoop, speakeasy has been really good to us. The CTO often mentions how helpful they've been in helping us optimize our voip performance. |
| 00:32.22 | Guerin | ok, can we not get into a dickwaving competition about offtopic shit like voip providers? |
| 00:32.24 | jjazz | Guerin, gotcha |
| 00:32.38 | fbi | !swordfight |
| 00:32.39 | cj | Guerin: mine's biger! |
| 00:32.50 | thingfish | testosterone is such an obstacle sometimes. |
| 00:33.06 | cj | thingfish: huge, huge, huge! |
| 00:33.12 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:33.14 | Guerin | if you want to go offtopic in #debian, it has to be about beer, foot, bizarre customs, police, barnyard animals or software licensing |
| 00:33.15 | jkern | jjazz, xfce4 has a clipboard plug-in for the panel |
| 00:33.17 | Guerin | got it? |
| 00:33.29 | Guerin | s/foot/food/ |
| 00:33.35 | thingfish | I'll take Barnyard Animals for $400, Alex. |
| 00:33.43 | cj | Guerin: hey, what does it take to become a debian dev? |
| 00:33.55 | jjazz | jkern, thank you |
| 00:34.01 | Guerin | cj: this is documented on debian.org |
| 00:34.10 | Guerin | cj: consider finding the requirements your first test |
| 00:34.15 | fbi | cj: you have to donate lots of money, to me. i accept paypal |
| 00:34.18 | cj | Guerin: righty :) |
| 00:34.22 | thingfish | heh |
| 00:34.25 | Guerin | cj: i don't have it cached, because I don't know, because I'm not one |
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| 00:36.36 | Rocker | guys, I need help |
| 00:36.41 | Rocker | 500 OOPS: vsftpd: cannot open config file:stop |
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| 00:37.07 | black_ | hello everybody |
| 00:37.15 | black_ | I need some help |
| 00:37.26 | Rocker | I need help too :-) |
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| 00:37.30 | EdibleText | Rocker, perhaps perms/ownership on the config file? |
| 00:37.36 | black_ | I am looking for a c++ function like the TRIM in visual basic |
| 00:37.40 | Guerin | Rocker: make sure /etc/vsftpd.conf is present and readable |
| 00:37.41 | black_ | does it exist? |
| 00:37.49 | Rocker | yes |
| 00:37.53 | Guerin | !htfswk black_ |
| 00:37.54 | dpkg | black_: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 00:38.07 | black_ | jejeje |
| 00:38.09 | Rocker | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 5219 2005-04-01 21:51 vsftpd.conf |
| 00:38.12 | Guerin | Rocker: that was a trick question. if it did, you wouldn't get that error. |
| 00:38.18 | black_ | perhaps somebody work as a developer |
| 00:38.33 | firepoop | speakeasy eh? |
| 00:38.35 | firepoop | o_O |
| 00:38.35 | Guerin | Rocker: ok, then vsftpd is looking for another config file. Find out using strace or by reading the log. |
| 00:38.50 | Rocker | ok |
| 00:39.03 | Guerin | black_: this is a free software channel. visual basic is not free software. Ask a MSDEV channel, if you can find onw. |
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| 00:40.06 | jkern | black_, maybe look for a #c++ ? |
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| 00:40.20 | Limbeaux | i did an apt-get install jabber, now what ? :} |
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| 00:40.42 | Guerin | jkern: why would #c++ know or care any more about visual basic than we would? |
| 00:40.47 | Mjelva | hey EdibleText - i figured out the problem. .xinitrc went awol :( |
| 00:41.01 | jkern | Guerin, he asked a question about c++ |
| 00:41.10 | Guerin | Limbeaux: how should we know what you want to do? |
| 00:41.19 | Guerin | oh |
| 00:41.28 | Guerin | i read the question the wrogn way around |
| 00:41.53 | Guerin | i thought he was asking for a function which exists in c++, in visual basic |
| 00:41.54 | EdibleText | Mjelva, GRATZ |
| 00:42.03 | Guerin | black_: sorry. |
| 00:42.07 | Limbeaux | wrong channel, sorry |
| 00:42.12 | karsten | Guerin: Is "wrogn" sort of the generation-new bad? |
| 00:42.25 | Guerin | karsten: it's all knids of wrogn |
| 00:42.46 | karsten | Guerin: Ectaxly! |
| 00:43.16 | Mjelva | EdibleText- thanks. i need a complete .xinitrc, tho. the basic one i've got now just says "exec fluxbox". not much for functionality, really. |
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| 00:43.35 | Guerin | ENOVOWEL |
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| 00:44.18 | EdibleText | Mjelva, you have changed your nick? were you morten? |
| 00:44.23 | karsten | Guerin: aptitude install an |
| 00:44.23 | Azar | hi miss karsten :) |
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| 00:44.28 | Mjelva | EdibleText- yes. yes i was. |
| 00:44.31 | EdibleText | ah |
| 00:44.32 | karsten | Azar: Miss yourself. |
| 00:44.42 | Azar | miss you 2oo |
| 00:44.45 | Mjelva | sorry. i forgot. |
| 00:45.06 | EdibleText | Mjelva, egg sell ant! |
| 00:45.31 | Mjelva | EdibleText- anyway, ya. i can't launch firefox. probably because my .xinitrc lacks a lot of stuff. any idea where i can find a new one? |
| 00:45.37 | Mjelva | or make fluxbox generate a new one. whichever. |
| 00:46.33 | fbi | ehm. how does starting firefox have _anything_ to do with ~/.xinitrc, unless you're trying to open a browser as soon as X is started? |
| 00:46.48 | jkern | Mjelva, look for a fluxbox example .xsession ls /etc/X11/xdg perhaps. |
| 00:46.55 | sloncho | hi. I need to invoke a command after the system boots up. It should be invoked after all modules are loaded, but before any ifup/down or any other network activity is performed. The command I need is mii-tools. I need it to set explicitly the transfer rate of the network adapter, in order all the networking stuff to work properly. Where (in which script) I shoudl place it? In SuSE there is... |
| 00:46.56 | sloncho | ...boot.local, on RH there is rc.local. How about debian? |
| 00:47.05 | asg | sloncho: /msg dpkg rc.local |
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| 00:48.02 | Mjelva | jkern - i found Xsession in /etc/X11 |
| 00:48.06 | Mjelva | uh. :( |
| 00:48.07 | sloncho | asg: I did not get this. there is a package rc.local which I need to install? |
| 00:48.17 | Mjelva | i'll do this tomorrow. it's almost 2am. |
| 00:48.23 | Mjelva | thanks for your help, guys. |
| 00:48.37 | asg | sloncho: no, type '/msg dpkg rc.local' in your irc client and our bot will fill you in on all the details |
| 00:48.57 | sloncho | asg: ah, ok. thanks. |
| 00:49.02 | Limbeaux | Operating System [ Windows XP Build No. 2600 ] - Uptime [ 6 hours 55 minutes 57 seconds ] - IceChat Version 5.50 Build 010905 - Download at www.icechat.net |
| 00:49.02 | asg | sloncho: you're welcome |
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| 00:49.21 | asg | Limbeaux: that must be a record |
| 00:49.25 | Azar | Limbeaux that was lame |
| 00:49.37 | asg | $ ns1 uptime |
| 00:49.37 | asg | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:49.45 | fbi | i hate daylight savings, makes me feel like i'm working until 8:00 |
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| 00:49.49 | fbi | asg: gimme a shell! |
| 00:49.59 | karsten | sloncho: You can create your own sysvinit script. |
| 00:50.01 | charly | hola |
| 00:50.02 | asg | fbi: hah, you didn't get one last time you asked :P |
| 00:50.07 | Limbeaux | this really sucks, at work, have to use windows, never used this ice chat before, clicked on something and that what it put up |
| 00:50.09 | charly | alguien que hable español? |
| 00:50.09 | fbi | asg: thought you forgot |
| 00:50.11 | fbi | !es |
| 00:50.12 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 00:50.12 | phaedral | aptitude sure looks like dselect to this dilettante |
| 00:50.14 | asg | !tell charly about es |
| 00:50.20 | charly | ok |
| 00:50.24 | asg | fbi: :) |
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| 00:50.38 | Azar | asg make me admin |
| 00:50.41 | stew | asg: i had one up for right around the same amount until last week it got shut off becuase my client forgot to pay his bill :) |
| 00:50.43 | CosmoDad | I'm having trouble getting waproamd up and running, my WEP key won't be set. Can anyone tell me 1) if the file name in keys/ is to be seperated by colons and 2) whether the key is to be noted hexadecimal or ASCII? |
| 00:51.09 | stew | fbi: if you want a shell just grab one, if its been up that long there is probably a remote kernel hole :) |
| 00:51.11 | asg | stew: heh, ouch. That's the primary dns, the secondary is a few minutes behind. Both woody boxes. |
| 00:51.14 | fbi | haha |
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| 00:51.19 | Limbeaux | Operating System [ Windows XP Build No. 2600 ] - Uptime [ 13545435435456418115646 hours 55 minutes 57 seconds ] - IceChat Version 5.50 Build 010905 - Download at www.icechat.net |
| 00:51.23 | karsten | sloncho: ... and you'll want to have it start as S34 or lower. |
| 00:51.24 | sloncho | karsten: it is a simple mii-tool -F xxx command, no need of script with stop/start, etc. |
| 00:51.28 | Limbeaux | this is a piece of crap |
| 00:51.33 | Limbeaux | ice chat |
| 00:51.44 | karsten | sloncho: See /etc/init.d/skeleton. |
| 00:51.46 | stew | asg: this one hadn't been rebooted since i had done woody->sarge a few months ago, came back up fine except eth0 and eth1 had switched, this one was ns2 for us |
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| 00:52.02 | asg | stew: the kernels should be fine according to s.d.o. |
| 00:52.15 | stew | yeah, just teasing :) |
| 00:52.21 | blank | ubuntu or debian...ubuntu or debian...ubuntu or debian...*blows up* |
| 00:52.25 | karsten | sloncho: ... if sequence of startup is significant, put it where it matters. You can modify thet skeleton script trivially. 'update-init.d' to configure the Debian way. |
| 00:52.32 | asg | stew: I do have a few internal machines with longer uptimes but they are possibly vulnerable (at least to local exploits) |
| 00:52.47 | karsten | sloncho: rc.local runs _after_ everything else. |
| 00:53.02 | asg | blank: pick one; try the other if the first doesn't provide everything you ever wanted. rinse. repeat. |
| 00:53.04 | sloncho | karsten: thanks. sounds too complicated for one command. anywhay, if this is the debian way, one should follow it :) |
| 00:53.13 | Limbeaux | ;) |
| 00:53.34 | sloncho | karsten: thanks for the rc.local note. defenetly I need it before dhcp request is made, or the static IP is set |
| 00:53.38 | Azar | I am a prowd owner as of today of the maybe last CD set for Woody. Will keep it for the generations to come as a precious antique. |
| 00:53.48 | karsten | sloncho: It's a useful framework. Do: cd /etc/init.d; cp skeleton local_mii-tool; $EDIT local_mii-tool; |
| 00:53.52 | asg | Azar: I have slink cds :p |
| 00:53.53 | stew | asg: looks like the longest i have now is my firewall at 325 days |
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| 00:54.00 | Azar | asg: you rule |
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| 00:54.11 | ruiedd | how can I see if I have alsa or oss ? |
| 00:54.47 | karsten | sloncho: Alternatively, you can run actions prior to brining up an interface in /etc/network/interfaces or ... |
| 00:54.48 | asg | stew: yeah. The only reason these are up as long as they are is simply because the power hasn't gone off. |
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| 00:54.48 | Tortel | ruiedd: try alsamixer |
| 00:54.48 | pihhan | anyone here has dual opteron running? |
| 00:54.48 | Azar | ruiedd, alsa have "SND" |
| 00:54.55 | karsten | sloncho: ... /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/ |
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| 00:54.58 | Tortel | ruiedd: if nothing happens, you dont have alsa |
| 00:54.59 | asg | stew: the rest of the datacenter has diesel backups but these are in a back room without battery backup. Granted, someone will hit a pole tomorrow and that will be that :) |
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| 00:55.17 | jair | Ungy, hello? |
| 00:55.24 | stew | asg: yeah i'm franky suprised that my firewall has been up that long, its plug is in a somewhat kickable location |
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| 00:55.45 | ruiedd | ok, but alsa or oss is a part of the kernel isn't it? |
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| 00:56.07 | stew | ruiedd: oss is part of 2.4 both are part of 2.6 |
| 00:56.09 | asg | stew: such is luck :) |
| 00:56.30 | Azar | ruiedd, oss "comes" with Debian, but alsa not. If you want alsa you have to install it then REPLACE OSS modules with it. |
| 00:56.52 | Azar | stew, wow, sarge comes with alsa too? |
| 00:56.52 | Tolimar | ruiedd: run "lsmod". If you see many lines starting with "snd_", you have alsa. |
| 00:57.06 | sloncho | karsten: when if-pre-up.d/* are run? every time network restarts? i.e. everytime ifup is invoked? if this is the case, maybe the sceleton way is better, as need thsi to be set once per bootup. this is internal hw setting for the netcard. |
| 00:57.08 | fbi | Tolimar: oss modules can start with snd* also |
| 00:57.11 | rend_ | in x when i start xconsole a window opens but the contents are blank |
| 00:57.19 | karsten | sloncho: Sec, busy |
| 00:57.26 | rend_ | useing twm |
| 00:57.34 | Tolimar | fbi: Do they? Oh... didn't know that. Thanks for correcting me. |
| 00:57.38 | stew | Azar: sure for instance: /msg dpkg 2.4 alsa one-liner |
| 00:57.39 | ruiedd | hmm, ok, I'm asking this cause I would like to export my sound (my zaurus) to an alsa server |
| 00:57.50 | Azar | wow right, I have alsa :) yayy |
| 00:58.02 | Azar | no more hassle with installing it |
| 00:58.08 | fbi | i prefer oss |
| 00:58.10 | rend_ | xbase-clients is already the newest version. |
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| 00:58.22 | Azar | all I need is to disable oss modules |
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| 00:58.44 | Azar | fbi, oss is not helping me when I try playing xm, and it files |
| 01:00.34 | rend_ | how do i close apps in twm? |
| 01:00.49 | asg | rend_: open an xterm ; type xkill ; click on the app |
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| 01:01.22 | rend_ | asg: my xterm doesnt work |
| 01:01.34 | ruiedd | ok, now I think I'm a litle confused, what I need is artsd to export my sound wright? artsd can run on top of oss or alsa. am I correct? |
| 01:01.35 | Azar | the most infamous security software (McAfee and Norton) dare to issue security warnings for linux? I had no idea that they do linux as well |
| 01:01.59 | asg | rend_: if there is something clickable in the upper left hand corner of the window, click it and a menu should present you with a kill/close option |
| 01:02.00 | lucho | nueva sala solopeliculas |
| 01:02.04 | asg | !es |
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| 01:02.20 | user12 | can anyone help me in editing dhcpd.conf? I didn't really think there needed any configuration for dhcp server? |
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| 01:02.42 | asg | user12: there are optional configurations that allow you to override data coming from dhcp and set hostnames, etc. |
| 01:02.42 | Azar | "Linux users should update antivirus software and patches to protect against the worm, the companies said" << anyone aware of McAfee or Symantec antivirus for Debian? it makes me laugh |
| 01:02.52 | joe- | is debian good for novices |
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| 01:02.59 | rend_ | oh it wasnt installed |
| 01:03.01 | avar | hi, slightly offtopic but how would I find out where the computer using a certain ip address is located in the world? |
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| 01:03.14 | Azar | joe- is good but requires patience, time, and time and time |
| 01:03.18 | asg | user12: however, dhcpd.conf is for a server which will require you to configure the ip spaces you wish to present to dhcp clients. |
| 01:03.22 | fbi | heh. i wouldn't even care if i got a 'worm' on my desktop, debian takes about 40 minutes to to a Desktop install |
| 01:03.29 | fbi | s/to/do/ |
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| 01:03.41 | asg | avar: there are a number of free and mostly accurate websites. Google for 'ip location' |
| 01:03.58 | joe- | simply typing 'whois ip' in bash might tell you |
| 01:04.07 | asg | avar: not the 'mostly' the one that our LMS uses places my datacenter in the middle of .au, which is patently incorrect. |
| 01:04.13 | asg | s/^not/note/ |
| 01:04.19 | Azar | joe- the Sarge seems to be more kind with new users, just give it a try if you want |
| 01:04.29 | avar | asg: thanks |
| 01:04.43 | saik0 | joe-, though some people might flame me for this: i learned debian best in an ubuntu environment |
| 01:04.55 | joe- | i've been using Fedora for more than a year but.. still not an expert :P |
| 01:05.15 | fbi | saik0: why would you get flamed for saying that? lots of users learn about debian and it's package management from ubuntu |
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| 01:05.34 | Azar | saik0 I tend to differ on your position: learning Debian first, gets you to master other distros better |
| 01:05.37 | user12 | asg - I am trying to set up dhcpd.conf so that my firewall (firestarter) can share internet connections |
| 01:05.51 | ruiedd | now I'm really confused, what is the difference between arts and alsa ? |
| 01:06.25 | pihhan | no one has experimence with dual opteron? |
| 01:06.29 | asg | user12: oh, you need to read the IP-Masquerading or NAT howtos at tldp.org (/msg dpkg ipmasq (another bit of info)) |
| 01:06.52 | abrotman | remyforbes777: you can talk in here normally |
| 01:06.58 | asg | user12: dhcp will hand your clients an ip address, sharing the connection will require other things which dhcp doesn't provide. |
| 01:07.18 | saik0 | fbi, a great many debian junkies are'nt very happy with ubuntu "forking" debian |
| 01:07.45 | fbi | saik0: well those users are idiots |
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| 01:08.22 | asg | saik0: most debian junkies don't care about it; what we do care about is being unable to support a frozen unstable + patches from 6 months ago. |
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| 01:09.02 | Asmodee` | ERROR 1064 at line 19 in file: 'cstenzel_mugdb.sql': You have an error in your SQL syntax. Check the manual that corresponds to your MySQL server version for the right syntax to use near 'DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 AUTO_INCREMENT=2172' at line 10 |
| 01:09.21 | Asmodee` | any ideas what could be causing this? http://rafb.net/paste/results/1NcwAG65.html |
| 01:09.41 | asg | Asmodee`: #mysql should be your first stop |
| 01:09.55 | Asmodee` | asg: i tried, but my address is banned (ive never been there before) |
| 01:10.12 | saik0 | Azar: It depends on how familiar you are with Linux I'd think. For someone who used another distro for a year then debian is indeed a great way to master other distros, but for a total newbie ubuntu can soften the blow of relearning a new OS. It did for me anyhow. |
| 01:10.14 | Azar | btw, that security warning was released for Linux servers: Lupper worm on PHP and MySQL |
| 01:10.17 | abrotman | Asmodee`: try #sql |
| 01:10.17 | asg | Asmodee`: /join #mysql fails? |
| 01:10.21 | saik0 | relearning=learning* |
| 01:10.28 | abrotman | Azar: it's been patched on debian .. months ago .. afaict anyways |
| 01:10.30 | Asmodee` | [20:11] #mysql unable to join channel (address is banned) |
| 01:10.45 | Azar | abrotman :) super , thanks |
| 01:10.51 | Asmodee` | i just joined #sql |
| 01:10.52 | asg | Asmodee`: then ask #freenode to investigate (unless you were in there and did something horrible) |
| 01:11.08 | joe- | *.adelphia.net is banned |
| 01:11.10 | abrotman | Azar: you may want to double check with #php to make sure |
| 01:11.13 | abrotman | haha |
| 01:11.21 | Azar | :) |
| 01:11.21 | joe- | channels aren't allowed to ban people for no reason here? |
| 01:11.26 | Asmodee` | asg: well i was never on there, but there's someone with a similar hostmask to me on efnet that keeps getting banned and i have to get it sorted out so i suspect he's to blame on this network as well |
| 01:11.28 | asg | joe-: that's a bit broad |
| 01:11.31 | abrotman | joe-: take it up with #freenode |
| 01:11.33 | karsten | sloncho: See the docs on that (if-pre-up.d/*) as I'm not entirely sure. |
| 01:11.39 | abrotman | joe-: or enter #mysql yourself and complain |
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| 01:11.53 | Asmodee` | *.adelphia.net is a huge isp... |
| 01:11.54 | abrotman | or show Asmodee` how to use tor |
| 01:11.58 | abrotman | not really |
| 01:12.00 | joe- | i'm just asking.. since more irc networks let you ban people for any reason |
| 01:12.01 | asg | Asmodee`: yes, someone on #mysql got a little wild (or syntactically dropped the ball on the ban) |
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| 01:12.08 | abrotman | mm .. adelphia .. the curse of central PA :) |
| 01:12.15 | karsten | sloncho: My understanding is that the if-<pre|post> stuff runs on any up/down command. |
| 01:12.31 | Asmodee` | well on efnet there's someone who is from lkwnny.adelphia.net who gets *.lkwnny.adelphia.net banned ;\ |
| 01:12.46 | Asmodee` | abrotman: adelphia spans far more than just PA, its even in CA |
| 01:12.47 | asg | Asmodee`: well, that's efnet, that's to be expected. |
| 01:12.56 | abrotman | Asmodee`: i know |
| 01:13.00 | karsten | sloncho: while if you want it to take effect for only a specified interface, you can add a pre-up or post-up (or pre-down or post-down) command or commands. |
| 01:13.00 | Azar | Asmodee, that would be you? |
| 01:13.12 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:13.17 | sloncho | karsten: looks like this. also, I found out, that I can add such a command in etc/network/interfaces. just marking it with pre-up |
| 01:13.17 | karsten | sloncho: ... I use the latter to activate bridged networking on my system as I do a lot of virtualization. |
| 01:13.25 | karsten | sloncho: lExactly. |
| 01:13.30 | karsten | sloncho: ... that should solve your problem. |
| 01:13.51 | karsten | sloncho: man 5 interfaces |
| 01:14.15 | sloncho | karsten: yes, this is it. just this strange taste ... as I really do not need this command on every ifup, just once per boot. but that way is easier, so i'll go with it :) |
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| 01:14.31 | sloncho | karsten: thanks for the help |
| 01:14.47 | Asmodee` | Azar: nono the guy on efnet ive seen before, definately not me, but probably lives near me considering his hostname is very similar to mine |
| 01:14.51 | karsten | sloncho: NP. It's a minor style thing, but I'd just create the sysvinit script and be done with it myself in that case. |
| 01:15.03 | abrotman | Asmodee`: find and kill .. or get arrested |
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| 01:15.26 | sloncho | karsten, i'll try it as well, after all I need to learn this :) |
| 01:15.35 | Asmodee` | would someone please ask #mysql to make that *.adelphia.net ban less harsh? |
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| 01:15.54 | karsten | sloncho: sysvinit is just a way of managing what you're describing: starting programs (or running programs) at boot, in a specified order. |
| 01:16.11 | abrotman | Asmodee`: go to #freenode |
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| 01:16.44 | ruiedd | if I want to make a sound server, receiving imported sound, I need artsd or esound? or just the alsa stuff? |
| 01:16.44 | karsten | sloncho: ... as you may be gathering, there's more than one way to do it, and none may be particularly "right". |
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| 01:17.02 | Asmodee` | abrotman: why would #freenode intervene on a #mysql issue? |
| 01:17.04 | sloncho | karsten: is there a step-by-step guide what I need to do. starting with copy-ing the sceleton and modifying it |
| 01:17.12 | abrotman | Asmodee`: what network do you think you're on ? |
| 01:17.14 | asg | Asmodee`: #freenode runs the network |
| 01:17.32 | Asmodee` | i know #freenode runs the network, but don't channels have autonomy from the irc admins? |
| 01:17.40 | abrotman | no |
| 01:17.43 | abrotman | there is a freenode policy |
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| 01:17.49 | asg | Asmodee`: to a certain amount until they trump freenode policy |
| 01:18.05 | fevel | I just did a dist-upgrade and it messed up my gnome. how do I find out what whent wrong and potentially fix it?? |
| 01:18.18 | fevel | it also made kde as default |
| 01:18.20 | asg | fevel: what debian version are you running? |
| 01:18.42 | abrotman | sounds more like it unisntalled gnome :) |
| 01:18.44 | fevel | asg: well i installed the iso from debian.org 3.1 |
| 01:18.46 | karsten | sloncho: Take a look at the skeleton file itself, a lot of it's pretty explanatory. |
| 01:19.03 | karsten | sloncho: ... there's /etc/init.d/README which will point you in the right direction. |
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| 01:19.11 | fevel | abrotman: im in gnome right now...it gave me a bunch of errors at startup |
| 01:19.11 | asg | fevel: a dist-upgrade on sarge wouldn't replace gnome with kde. Did you add something to your sources.list? |
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| 01:19.19 | fevel | abrotman: also nautilus isnt working |
| 01:19.30 | sloncho | karsten: thanks again. /me gets into the deep :) |
| 01:19.32 | fevel | asg: yes I did |
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| 01:19.43 | asg | fevel: what did you add? |
| 01:19.52 | karsten | sloncho: NP. |
| 01:19.54 | fevel | im gonna paste my source.list on pastebin...one second |
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| 01:20.02 | asg | karsten: /msg dpkg rc.local (the full skinny, for future reference) |
| 01:20.09 | abrotman | bunch of errors ? |
| 01:20.10 | karsten | asg: Danke. |
| 01:20.14 | karsten | sloncho: ^^ |
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| 01:20.31 | abrotman | slacker! |
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| 01:21.13 | Asmodee` | ;\ #freenode is +m and i dont have voice... |
| 01:21.23 | Baeaeken | How do I make these keys function? é â á |
| 01:21.23 | asg | Asmodee`: just ask, you will be heard in time |
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| 01:21.29 | Baeaeken | Letters even |
| 01:21.35 | fevel | asg, abrotman: http://pastebin.com/422521 |
| 01:21.37 | Asmodee` | asg: i cant ask on #freenode if I dont have voice and the chan is +m |
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| 01:21.51 | WALoeIII | correct me if I'm wrong but installing the libapache-mod-php5 package is supposed to install mod_php5.so in /usr/lib/apache/1.3 ... |
| 01:22.02 | WALoeIII | but it doesn't it does install a 500mod_php file though |
| 01:22.11 | abrotman | there weren't even any gnome updates to testing today |
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| 01:22.31 | asg | Baeaeken: man xmodmap |
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| 01:22.55 | fevel | abrotman: did I set up the source.list right this tiem?? |
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| 01:23.24 | asg | lilo: if you aren't too busy, can you check the *.adelphia.net ban on #mysql and let Asmodee` know if/when it's cleared up. Thanks. |
| 01:23.26 | abrotman | fevel: i'm just telling you that there were no gnome updates today |
| 01:24.28 | Lanix | can the game quake be playde in debian ? |
| 01:24.35 | asg | Lanix: yes |
| 01:24.41 | asg | Lanix: all of them in fact |
| 01:24.45 | Lanix | how so ? |
| 01:24.59 | Lanix | is there a pkg for it ? |
| 01:25.14 | Lanix | or better yet a page where indicates info on it ? |
| 01:25.27 | fevel | abrotman: Do you know what might gone wrong?? I tried apt-get install gnome and it showed me a bunch of unmet dependencies. How can that be if I have stable and testing repositories in my list?? |
| 01:25.30 | asg | Lanix: /msg dpkg quake ; apt-cache show quake2 |
| 01:25.59 | abrotman | fevel: like what ? |
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| 01:26.38 | fevel | abrotman: like...gnome-desktop-environment: Depends: gnome-volume-manager (>= 1.2.1) but 1.2.0-2 is to be installed |
| 01:26.56 | thingfish | so testing is in a state of flux right now. |
| 01:27.04 | abrotman | !info gnome-volume-manager etch |
| 01:27.11 | dpkg | gnome-volume-manager: (GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.1-1 (etch), Packaged size: 154 kB, Installed size: 908 kB |
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| 01:27.56 | fevel | abrotman: doesnt that version seem a little old for a testing repositorie?? |
| 01:27.57 | abrotman | fevel: did you run apt-get update first ? |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | no |
| 01:28.04 | abrotman | why would it seem old ? |
| 01:28.07 | abrotman | !info gnome-volume-manager sarge |
| 01:28.08 | fevel | yes |
| 01:28.27 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 01:28.34 | fevel | since he is trying to downgrade instead of upgrading |
| 01:28.40 | thingfish | 1.2.0 |
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| 01:29.10 | abrotman | unless your mirror is a day behind or something |
| 01:29.20 | dpkg | gnome-volume-manager: (GNOME daemon to auto-mount and manage media devices), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 150 kB, Installed size: 888 kB |
| 01:29.26 | fevel | maybe! |
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| 01:29.43 | fevel | i set up the mirrors with apt-setup |
| 01:29.44 | abrotman | wtf is wrong with me! |
| 01:29.55 | phaedral | where did i get the idea that 2.6 kernel was standard for sarge? |
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| 01:30.10 | thingfish | only your psychiatrist knows for sure. |
| 01:30.10 | abrotman | phaedral: Augusta ? |
| 01:30.18 | abrotman | Georgia ? |
| 01:30.21 | phaedral | thingfish: heh heh |
| 01:30.26 | abrotman | oh wait .. i know .. Texas .. they have all kinds of weird ideas there |
| 01:30.46 | phaedral | abrotman: either that or the spaten i had earlier went to my head... |
| 01:30.50 | phaedral | oh well; can install later |
| 01:30.55 | abrotman | bonus points if you can guess what i had for dinner! |
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| 01:31.06 | phaedral | ramen? |
| 01:31.11 | abrotman | no .. |
| 01:31.16 | abrotman | it was meat |
| 01:31.24 | phaedral | that was the last food i discussed on this channel... |
| 01:31.25 | astronut | what's the Multi key sequence for the degree sign (like é is multi + ', e) |
| 01:31.36 | phaedral | meat is nice |
| 01:31.38 | saik0 | abrotman: beef brats |
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| 01:31.46 | abrotman | i wish i had brats ... |
| 01:32.00 | thingfish | lamb chops |
| 01:32.04 | abrotman | nope! |
| 01:32.15 | thingfish | pork kidneys? |
| 01:32.23 | abrotman | getting closer :) |
| 01:32.24 | saik0 | ox testicles? |
| 01:32.31 | thingfish | liver of some sort? |
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| 01:32.36 | abrotman | erm .. my store doesn't sell those .. sadly |
| 01:32.39 | abrotman | !thingfish++ |
| 01:32.40 | asg | abrotman: a duck! |
| 01:32.43 | thingfish | yay |
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| 01:32.50 | coywolf | !dd |
| 01:32.50 | dpkg | i guess dd is man dd or dd if=/foo/vmlinuz of=/dev/fd0 to produce a bootable floppy, or a Debian Developer, or dd if=/dev/hdc of=image.iso to make an image of a cd/dvd |
| 01:32.54 | abrotman | !ee |
| 01:32.54 | dpkg | ee is, like, for gEEks. Estonia |
| 01:33.32 | thingfish | I wish I could get away with cooking liver now. When I was in college, I ate it constantly. |
| 01:33.40 | asg | !ee is also ElectricElf |
| 01:33.41 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 01:33.41 | abrotman | thingfish: it was yummy .. i had potatoes too .. but after i ate them .. my mouth feels like i put vick's vaporub on the roof of my mouth |
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| 01:33.50 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 01:34.01 | abrotman | they had spices |
| 01:34.28 | thingfish | there's this place, some country buffet thing - they have the best chicken livers you ever ate in your life. |
| 01:34.29 | asg | abrotman: you smoke menthols and confused the oregano with the cigs perhaps? |
| 01:34.32 | thingfish | yum |
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| 01:34.37 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:34.40 | l1nux | hi |
| 01:34.42 | asg | thingfish: Cracker Barrel |
| 01:34.57 | thingfish | asg: similar |
| 01:35.06 | thingfish | but I think this place is local. |
| 01:35.06 | l1nux | any one use "kernel 2.6.14" ? |
| 01:35.17 | ralf | l1nux: me |
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| 01:35.26 | asg | l1nux: I'm sure someone does, what particular problem do you seem to be having with it? |
| 01:35.34 | ralf | on 2 pcs, i386 and amd64 |
| 01:35.50 | l1nux | ralf, whats about "devfs" ? |
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| 01:35.58 | ralf | it is obsolete |
| 01:36.07 | l1nux | ralf, http://lwn.net/Articles/157879/ ! |
| 01:36.09 | Asmodee` | i do apt-get update and apt-get upgrade, but my mysql doesnt upgrade from 4.0.x to 4.1.x any ideas how to force this to upgrade? |
| 01:36.09 | ralf | use udev instead |
| 01:36.14 | asg | l1nux: use udev or standard static /dev |
| 01:36.25 | virgomoon | can anyone recommend a decent webmail package? PHP or mod_perl either one |
| 01:36.36 | thingfish | Asmodee`: try apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:36.41 | ralf | l1nux: so? |
| 01:36.44 | asg | Asmodee`: apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 01:36.54 | thingfish | or just apt-get install mysql |
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| 01:37.00 | l1nux | asg, udev not need mount devfs ? |
| 01:37.07 | asg | Asmodee`: 4.0.x will not auto install 4.1.x |
| 01:37.11 | l1nux | at startup |
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| 01:37.28 | Asmodee` | asg: if I do apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 is it going to overwrite my databases i already have? |
| 01:37.49 | dli | l1nux, no, they are mutual exclusive |
| 01:37.53 | ralf | l1nux: udev needs only tmpfs |
| 01:37.59 | asg | Asmodee`: it should upgrade them but you should do backups first to be sure. |
| 01:38.01 | ralf | dli: no, they aren't |
| 01:38.02 | l1nux | because my kernel panic :/ |
| 01:38.09 | ralf | you can use udev with devfs too |
| 01:38.10 | Asmodee` | backup using mysqldump ? |
| 01:38.12 | saik0 | virgomoon, i usually check freshmeat when I'm trying to figure stuff like that out |
| 01:38.14 | dli | ralf, oh, I thought so |
| 01:38.15 | Asmodee` | or is there a better way for this |
| 01:38.21 | l1nux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:38.26 | ralf | dli: even if it is stupid |
| 01:38.29 | asg | Asmodee`: or just stop mysql, copy the /var/lib/mysql directory somewhere, restart mysql and upgrade |
| 01:38.33 | ralf | l1nux: a moment |
| 01:38.42 | l1nux | ralf, ok |
| 01:38.42 | virgomoon | saik0: oh, I am, just looking for any gross recommendations, thanks |
| 01:38.58 | asg | Asmodee`: after installing 4.1, check /usr/share/doc/mysql-server/README.Debian{.gz} to see if there are any gotchas |
| 01:39.03 | ralf | l1nux: mknod /dev/console c 5 1 |
| 01:39.31 | l1nux | ralf, i dont have any device at startup |
| 01:39.38 | asg | Asmodee`: if worst comes to worst, you can always re-install 4.0.x and copy your /var/lib/mysql back without harm |
| 01:39.41 | ralf | what? |
| 01:39.58 | ralf | l1nux: how can you IRC without booting then? |
| 01:40.05 | ralf | windows/knoppix? |
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| 01:40.12 | saik0 | virgomoon, I was looking up the same thing, and settled on squirrelmail, and later found out my webhost had neomail preconfigured so wound up with that. hows that for a gross recommendation? =P |
| 01:40.19 | Kbyte | l1nux: do you installed the udev package? |
| 01:40.22 | l1nux | ralf, kernel 2.6.12.5 |
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| 01:40.39 | l1nux | Kbyte, yes |
| 01:40.39 | Kbyte | ops did you install the udev package? :) |
| 01:40.43 | Asmodee` | asg: ill dump and copy the dir just to try to be extra safe. thanks |
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| 01:40.53 | asg | Asmodee`: you're welcome |
| 01:40.54 | l1nux | work fine with 2.6.12.5 ! |
| 01:41.04 | ralf | l1nux: have you something mounted on /dev now? |
| 01:41.08 | ralf | like devfs or tmpfs? |
| 01:41.09 | l1nux | but not with 2.6.14 :/ |
| 01:41.11 | virgomoon | saik0: works for me .. I looked at SM, but don't have IMAP that I'm aware of |
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| 01:41.21 | virgomoon | looking at OpenWebmail now |
| 01:41.25 | ralf | l1nux: fgrep dev /proc/mounts |
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| 01:41.40 | asg | virgomoon: squirrelmail only supports IMAP |
| 01:41.43 | Sipingal | join #gentoo |
| 01:41.49 | Kbyte | l1nux: did you compile your own kernel, or is it the debian package? |
| 01:41.57 | asg | !give Sipingal a '/' |
| 01:41.58 | dpkg | give Sipingal a '/' |
| 01:42.02 | l1nux | tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:42.03 | MickLinux | hi, I'm having a wierd problem with my apt-get dist-upgrade (Debian/knoppix HDD install, to SID) |
| 01:42.12 | Sipingal | :) |
| 01:42.16 | abrotman | asg: no .. that wasn't it |
| 01:42.18 | stew | asg: excellent bot utilization there |
| 01:42.20 | thingfish | hardy har har |
| 01:42.23 | ralf | l1nux: /dev, not /dev/shm |
| 01:42.32 | ralf | l1nux: df /dev |
| 01:42.34 | asg | stew: hey, it used to work ;) |
| 01:42.53 | asg | someone futzed with the factoids again |
| 01:43.00 | l1nux | fgrep dev /proc/mounts |
| 01:43.00 | MickLinux | Several errors, starting with E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room / E: Err occurred while processing nanoblogger (NewFileVer1). |
| 01:43.03 | l1nux | tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:43.03 | l1nux | /dev/hda2 /home reiserfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:43.03 | l1nux | devpts /dev/pts devpts rw 0 0 |
| 01:43.04 | l1nux | tmpfs /dev/shm tmpfs rw 0 0 |
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| 01:43.18 | stew | MickLinux: /msg dpkg mmap |
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| 01:43.33 | thingfish | MickLinux: download Debian netinstall CD iso image, burn it to disc. Boot to it. Type linux26 and keep going. |
| 01:43.40 | l1nux | sorry |
| 01:43.44 | ralf | l1nux: ok |
| 01:43.51 | ralf | l1nux: 3 cmds |
| 01:44.09 | Kbyte | l1nux: try to boot with devfs=nomount flag |
| 01:44.16 | l1nux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:44.26 | l1nux | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:44.42 | l1nux | tmpfs /dev tmpfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:44.47 | paradicelost | the router-modem asigns ip adresses to lan interfaces on bootup. these are not fixed so /etc/hosts is of no use. how do I resolve lan addresses now? |
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| 01:44.55 | ralf | 1) mount --bind / /opt |
| 01:44.59 | thingfish | um, it's paradise. |
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| 01:45.03 | ralf | 2) mknod /opt/dev/console c 5 1 |
| 01:45.07 | ralf | 3) umount /opt |
| 01:45.27 | ralf | reboot and enjoy |
| 01:45.40 | l1nux | ok :) |
| 01:45.48 | l1nux | thanks ralf |
| 01:46.08 | GloX | paradicelost, configure your router to give fixed ip's to certain macs |
| 01:46.11 | ralf | you may need also /dev/null (i guess) |
| 01:46.12 | MickLinux | Thank you, stew. |
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| 01:46.14 | paradicelost | thingfish: it was befor i reset the router but server now has that as taken so... |
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| 01:46.20 | GloX | or just ignore the ip's of the router/modem and configure manually |
| 01:46.28 | l1nux | mknod /opt/dev/console c 5 1, the file exist ! |
| 01:47.07 | ralf | l1nux: so you have it |
| 01:47.18 | l1nux | yeah |
| 01:47.21 | ralf | use udev and live happy |
| 01:47.28 | ralf | and umount /opt |
| 01:47.48 | l1nux | i try with devfs=nomount in menu.list |
| 01:48.15 | ralf | m |
| 01:48.21 | ralf | and the 2.6.14 kernel? |
| 01:48.39 | WALoeIII | anyone explain to me why libapache-mod-php4 or libapache-mod-php5 are not installing mod_php4/5.so in the /usr/lib/apache/1.3 folders? |
| 01:48.42 | WALoeIII | amd I don'g something wrong? |
| 01:49.27 | l1nux | ralf, yes, i go to reboot with 2.6.14 :) |
| 01:49.29 | l1nux | thanks |
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| 01:52.12 | sanxiyn | WALoeIII: Because, it is called libphp4.so. |
| 01:52.26 | sanxiyn | (Which you could find out by dpkg -L libapache-mod-php4) |
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| 01:53.06 | sloncho | I have a script qestion, pls help: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1061 |
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| 01:54.48 | RichiH | sloncho: is it executable? |
| 01:55.17 | RichiH | sloncho: because, quite frankly, it is either not there or not executable for you |
| 01:55.18 | sanxiyn | sloncho: mii-tool, not mii_tool. |
| 01:55.18 | sanxiyn | ... |
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| 01:55.24 | sloncho | RichiH: yes it is. I just saw I made a mistake in my last sentence. It should read: the texts is NOT displayed |
| 01:55.34 | Shockcore | anyone ever had trouble with sshd on 2.6.14 kernel ? |
| 01:55.42 | sanxiyn | Shockcore: I haven't. |
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| 01:55.55 | Shockcore | booting with 2.4.31 no problem but with 2.6.14 cant connect via SSH, even the deamon is running |
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| 01:56.07 | Shockcore | connects and one second later i get disconnected |
| 01:56.33 | RichiH | sloncho: in both zsh and bash it works as expected, for me |
| 01:56.56 | sloncho | sanxiyn: RichiH: hmm, looks like I need more coffee. Thanks |
| 01:57.24 | RichiH | sloncho: probably ;) |
| 01:57.27 | sloncho | RichiH: stupid mistake, as sanxiyn noted |
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| 01:57.36 | sloncho | thanks guys |
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| 01:59.53 | sloncho | one more sh question. How do I forcibidly leave a function? like empty return in other languages? |
| 02:01.23 | RichiH | sloncho: using return? |
| 02:01.26 | WALoeIII | sanxiyn: thanks, they changed the name on me and the update utility wasn't finding it |
| 02:02.06 | sloncho | yeah, works :). defenetely out for coffee :) |
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| 02:02.41 | RichiH | where zsh will take a sane form of function scripting, bash requiring you to be stupidly over-correct |
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| 02:03.39 | MicsterX | I have a usb mouse and i can start debian. The problem is the mouse stops working after a few minutes in the gnome GUI. Any ideas? |
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| 02:04.28 | blockd | MicsterX: maybe X isn't configured correctly for your mouse. |
| 02:05.07 | asg | RichiH: if you have to compensate in bash, it's time to move it to Perl :p |
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| 02:05.53 | MicsterX | could be. What is the best way to go about editing X to configure it correctly? |
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| 02:06.12 | blockd | MicsterX: sorry... you're saying it *stops* working after a few minutes... if X weren't configured right I'd think it wouldn't work at all |
| 02:06.31 | gravity | Yeah, that's freakin' weird |
| 02:06.45 | RichiH | asg: i use zsh and perl |
| 02:06.47 | blockd | MicsterX: but you're sure it's working in the GUI? Just want to to make sure here... |
| 02:06.59 | RichiH | asg: i just fell back to bash to verify what i was saying |
| 02:07.04 | asg | RichiH: I know, I was just joshing you :) |
| 02:07.20 | gravity | MicsterX: You should try another wm/desktop environment |
| 02:07.22 | remyforb1s777 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:07.26 | RichiH | asg: did i allow to talk to me? |
| 02:07.30 | gravity | MicsterX: See if it's related to gnome or something else |
| 02:07.40 | gravity | Although my wild guess is the kernel and/or udev or something |
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| 02:07.52 | MicsterX | ok |
| 02:07.55 | everton | Hi! I am trying to resize my / (root). I am runing mkinitramfs, so this partiotion is not mounted. but when I try to resize2fs, it is said it is mounted. Any tip? |
| 02:08.05 | RichiH | only problem with zsh is that the advanced stuff has a thouroughly fucked up syntax |
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| 02:08.14 | asg | RichiH: bah ;) |
| 02:08.22 | RichiH | like, they put real effort into making it ugly |
| 02:08.29 | remyforb1s777 | can someone help me get my sound working |
| 02:08.32 | RichiH | none of the beauty and ease that is perl |
| 02:08.35 | MicsterX | mouse works for a few minutes then stops |
| 02:08.41 | gravity | heh, beauty and ease |
| 02:08.45 | gravity | I'll give you the latter |
| 02:08.47 | blockd | everton: what does "mount" say? |
| 02:09.02 | gravity | perl is great, but it's not beautiful :-) |
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| 02:09.04 | asg | gravity: beauty, ease, and a dagger to stab yourself with if you are so inclined |
| 02:09.11 | miriam | jelou |
| 02:09.13 | RichiH | remyforb1s777: lspci - then, modconf and load the driver. then, apt-get install aumix && aumix as root |
| 02:09.13 | gravity | asg: No, that's C :-) |
| 02:09.18 | blockd | everton: there's the -f to force it, but if it's really mounted that's the last thing you want to do |
| 02:09.20 | miriam | can somenone help, please |
| 02:09.27 | RichiH | !tell remyforb1s777 about sound |
| 02:09.31 | sanxiyn | gravity: C and ease? |
| 02:09.39 | RichiH | !tell miriam about ask |
| 02:09.41 | gravity | miriam: Just ask your question. If someone can help you, they will. |
| 02:09.42 | asg | gravity: that is true |
| 02:09.42 | miriam | i've just bought a powerbook but i can't install debian sage |
| 02:09.43 | everton | blockd: should I mountthe root partiton? I already tested mounting it, it was ok |
| 02:09.50 | gravity | sanxiyn: Simplicity is easy :-) |
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| 02:10.00 | blockd | everton: mount without arguments will just show you whats mounted |
| 02:10.05 | everton | blockd: no, my root partition is NO mounted... |
| 02:10.06 | sanxiyn | Aha. For some definition of ease, surely. |
| 02:10.09 | gravity | hehe |
| 02:10.14 | quilon | is it possible to server rpm packages from an apt repository ? |
| 02:10.28 | MicsterX | this usb mouse issue is so frustrating. I had the same issue with mandriva. The usb mouse only works in gnome for a few minutes then doesnt respond |
| 02:10.29 | sanxiyn | quilon: It's possible to setup apt-rpm repository, yes. |
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| 02:10.31 | blockd | everton: just as a sanity check to see if the program's apparently complaining about nothing |
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| 02:10.35 | sanxiyn | quilon: Search Google for howto. |
| 02:10.39 | asg | sanxiyn: memory management in C is easy ; remembering what you've done is not as easy. |
| 02:10.42 | everton | I want run resize2fs /dev/hda9, my root partition, but it sayd it is mountes :-/ |
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| 02:10.52 | remyforb1s777 | yes please tell me about sound |
| 02:10.55 | everton | blockd: ok |
| 02:10.56 | quilon | sanxiyn: thanks will google |
| 02:11.03 | gravity | MicsterX: Trying some other wm is a good first step to narrowing down the location of the problem |
| 02:11.13 | RichiH | remyforb1s777: dpkg sent you a message |
| 02:11.16 | blockd | everton: are you using a boot disc or something? Otherwise your root partition is very likely mounted. |
| 02:11.19 | MrPrimate | can anyone show me the result of uname -a for an i386 machine |
| 02:11.38 | miriam | does someone knows about puredata installation? |
| 02:11.42 | gravity | MrPrimate: Linux squee 2.6.14-1-686 #1 Tue Nov 1 15:51:43 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:11.43 | MicsterX | so try xorg instead of xfree86? |
| 02:11.45 | asg | MrPrimate: Linux rob 2.6.14-1-686 #1 Tue Nov 1 15:51:43 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:11.49 | MrPrimate | qthanks guys |
| 02:11.50 | everton | blockd:I am using mkinitramfs, so that I am booting from RAM |
| 02:11.50 | sanxiyn | quilon: http://apt4rpm.sourceforge.net/web-apt-rep.html or similar. |
| 02:11.51 | gravity | MicsterX: No |
| 02:11.54 | gravity | MicsterX: Something not gnome |
| 02:11.55 | sanxiyn | quilon: Quite off topic here though. |
| 02:12.03 | everton | I will put my df on #flood |
| 02:12.08 | quilon | sanxiyn: thanks mate |
| 02:12.18 | remyforb1s777 | sent me a message where |
| 02:12.19 | Javasnob | everton: have you tried doing it from a liveCD? |
| 02:12.24 | everton | blockd: I will put my df on #flood |
| 02:12.28 | MicsterX | oh ok i like gnome so much though |
| 02:12.41 | gravity | MicsterX: If you like it, you'd like to fix it if it's broken right? |
| 02:12.43 | blockd | everton: dunno then. You might also want to fsck the filesystem before repartitioning it. |
| 02:12.51 | MicsterX | yea |
| 02:12.54 | everton | Javasnob: I am without live CD. It will tajke 5 hours to download here |
| 02:13.00 | gravity | MicsterX: It's not like I *know* the problem is in gnome. That's just the easiest first step to narrowing down the problem |
| 02:13.02 | blockd | I mean resizing.. |
| 02:13.11 | blockd | everton: ^ |
| 02:13.12 | everton | blockd: ok, I will fasck it |
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| 02:13.16 | gravity | MicsterX: Everything else, like going to Xorg or changing your kernel, will take a lot of time |
| 02:13.24 | Javasnob | ouch... |
| 02:13.32 | MicsterX | well i tried kde with mandriva and had the same problem |
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| 02:13.36 | asg | gravity: having him type 'X' and wiggle the mouse for more than 2 minutes should do a pretty good job of at least deciding if it's a WM problem or an X problem |
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| 02:13.53 | gravity | Well, if it hits kde then it's not with gnome |
| 02:14.15 | gravity | You can try to see if Xorg fixes it I guess |
| 02:14.30 | everton | blockd: I just pasted my df on #flood, if you can give a look |
| 02:14.34 | remyforb1s777 | i didnt get a message from dpkg |
| 02:14.55 | gravity | MicsterX: What I'd recommend is the next time you lose mouse responsiveness, check ~/.xsession-errors and your XFree86.0.log for anything suspicious about your mouse |
| 02:15.02 | blockd | everton: but again, fsck'ing an unmounted filesystem is good. |
| 02:15.05 | gravity | MicsterX: If it's a problem with X, it may let you know |
| 02:15.12 | gravity | X doesn't usually like just losing a mouse |
| 02:15.23 | MicsterX | ok well how do i get to a terminal once the mouse stops from gnome? |
| 02:15.24 | blockd | everton: as opposed to trashing a mounted one :-) |
| 02:15.36 | gravity | MicsterX: ctrl-alt-Fwhatever |
| 02:15.43 | MicsterX | oh ok cool |
| 02:15.43 | gravity | Not 7 though. That's how you get back to X |
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| 02:15.49 | gravity | Without the ctrl though |
| 02:15.53 | MicsterX | ok |
| 02:16.13 | everton | blockd: It sayd it is UNmounted, but gibe a look there what is is said when I try to e2fsck it :-O |
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| 02:16.21 | gravity | Anyway, looking at the logs may be more informative than blindly upgrading things |
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| 02:16.50 | MicsterX | i have a PS/2 mouse but i didnt configure it when i installed. Anyway to reconfigure it in X? |
| 02:16.50 | everton | blockd: strange, no? |
| 02:16.51 | blockd | everton: have you tried "umount /dev/hda9"? |
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| 02:17.01 | everton | blockd: let me try |
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| 02:17.25 | everton | blockd: I did. it sayd it is NOT mounted :-/ |
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| 02:18.09 | gravity | !tell MicsterX about drxx |
| 02:18.20 | blockd | everton: do you see it in /proc/mounts? If not, do you see it in /etc/mtab? |
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| 02:18.43 | everton | blockd: let me see it |
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| 02:20.06 | everton | blockd: on /proc/mount and /etc/mtab it sayd only tmpfs and the other are monuted. not hda9 :-O |
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| 02:20.48 | MicsterX | well gonna reload debian and try some things with the mouse |
| 02:21.02 | blockd | everton: that's weird. |
| 02:21.16 | everton | blockd: I need this cause my / is full :D, and I am without a system working properly (package conflict) |
| 02:21.30 | everton | blockd: really weird |
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| 02:21.33 | blockd | MicsterX: are you sure it's PS/2? You said it's a USB mouse right? |
| 02:21.46 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know... my room-mate is looking for a winamp launch kinda thing where he cant listen to live ESPN, CNN, and other sports/news broadcasts... anyonr know how to setup something like that or what program to use? xmms? icecast? |
| 02:22.11 | everton | how do I unjoin a specific channel using irssi? |
| 02:22.20 | gravity | everton: /part |
| 02:22.26 | everton | gravity: thanks |
| 02:22.31 | gravity | No problem |
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| 02:23.33 | everton | Does someone knows some other good linux channel on this IRC server? |
| 02:24.16 | blockd | everton: what about #linux? |
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| 02:24.28 | gravity | Is #linpeople any good any more? |
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| 02:24.33 | prium | can someone direct me to a good tutorial on making makefiles? |
| 02:24.36 | everton | blockd: I will try, thanks (I am new on IRC ;D) |
| 02:24.47 | gravity | prium: The make docs themselves aren't bad |
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| 02:25.08 | prium | ok cool |
| 02:25.11 | asg | prium: O'Reilly also publishes a decent 'make' book |
| 02:26.10 | Shockcore | anyone ever had trouble with sshd on 2.6.14 kernel ? booting with 2.4.31 no problem but with 2.6.14 cant connect via SSH, even the deamon is running(i can connect one second and then i automaticaly getting disconnected...) |
| 02:26.33 | asg | prium: http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/make3/book/index.csp (you can read it online also) |
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| 02:27.39 | everton | blockd: well, well, here on Debian answer came fast ;) |
| 02:27.41 | asg | Shockcore: not a problem here |
| 02:28.01 | Shockcore | well i just finished to compile + booting |
| 02:28.04 | sloncho | khmm, again me ... I'm trying to use update-rc.d to install my script in runlevel S. my commandline is " update-rc.d myscript start 37 S". According man, this should work, but is is not. It reports "error: expected runlevel [0-9S] (did you forget "." ?)" |
| 02:29.03 | blockd | everton: btw, as a last sanity check what was the exact error message you're getting from the program? |
| 02:29.36 | everton | blockd: wich program, resi2fs? |
| 02:29.39 | blockd | everton: could it possibly just be a warning that *if* it's mounted, then badness will ensue. |
| 02:29.41 | blockd | everton: yes |
| 02:29.52 | nba_ | anybody sos pls.: how to install OO v.2, cpu is i686. thanks |
| 02:30.02 | everton | blockd: let me see again |
| 02:30.05 | blockd | everton: I can't remember off-hand what it complains about and I'm not about to test it on my partitions |
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| 02:30.32 | Dj4 | hey i have a question how can i see my monitor hwinfo -monitor or something to see the Refresh |
| 02:30.36 | Dj4 | and stuff or something like that |
| 02:30.36 | everton | blockd: /dev/hda9 is mounted; can't resize a mounted filesystem! |
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| 02:30.54 | everton | blockd: ok, you dont need test it :) |
| 02:31.15 | blockd | everton: OK. I just wanted to make sure it wasn't a warning. But it does clearly assert it's mounted. |
| 02:31.53 | everton | blockd: But strangely enough it isnt, second df command... |
| 02:31.53 | Dj4 | any ideas? |
| 02:32.10 | everton | blockd: BTW, do you know some reacue where I can have resize? |
| 02:32.26 | sloncho | karsten: sorry to bother you, but last question about that update-rc.d stuff |
| 02:32.41 | everton | A friend gaveme one, but this rescue asks a floppy, but I put it on CD :-/ |
| 02:33.05 | everton | blockd: If is doesn work, I will download Live CD and sleep :-D |
| 02:33.06 | Dj4 | Guerin: u there? |
| 02:33.18 | blockd | everton: I'd just use knoppix or something |
| 02:33.31 | everton | blockd: I see |
| 02:33.40 | everton | blockd: thanks anyway |
| 02:34.02 | Dj4 | hey i have a question how can i see my monitor hwinfo -monitor or something to see the Refresh |
| 02:34.05 | sloncho | karsten: " update-rc.d myscript start 37 S" fails with: "error: expected runlevel [0-9S] (did you forget "." ?)". Any idea what I do wrong? There is no S37, so it is not it. I read man and some posts on usenet, and it should work, but ... |
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| 02:36.02 | asg | sloncho: update-rc.d foo start 37 x y z . stop 37 x y z (man update-rc.d (see the bottom for an example)) |
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| 02:36.19 | cat | hey |
| 02:36.46 | cat | is there any backport for xorg to sarge? |
| 02:36.53 | asg | cat: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 02:37.11 | sloncho | asg:oh man, this dot ... ok, works, thanks |
| 02:37.17 | asg | sloncho: you're welcome |
| 02:37.41 | Guerin | Dj4: no |
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| 02:37.47 | cat | thnx asg |
| 02:37.58 | predius_ | how can I add a user and password for curl to use? |
| 02:38.06 | sloncho | karsen: thanks, solved with the help of asg. ciao |
| 02:38.09 | predius_ | like --http-pass in wget |
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| 02:39.12 | cat | asg, does xorg autodetect everything |
| 02:39.17 | gravity | No |
| 02:39.21 | asg | cat: no |
| 02:39.24 | gravity | One day hopefully, but not today |
| 02:39.35 | cat | oh ic |
| 02:39.46 | abrotman | gravity: why are you a slacker?! |
| 02:39.55 | gravity | 'cause you're not paying me enough |
| 02:39.58 | asg | cat: we can help you with what it doesn't detect most likely though |
| 02:40.03 | gravity | That really is a huge priority for me |
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| 02:40.08 | asg | abrotman: he told you :p |
| 02:40.13 | gravity | Xorg does have some good autodetection stuff, but not good enough nor clean enough |
| 02:40.14 | Dj4 | how do i set up x? with xorg |
| 02:40.17 | Dj4 | X -configure? |
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| 02:40.34 | asg | !drxx Dj4 |
| 02:40.37 | dpkg | Dj4: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:40.52 | gravity | wtf |
| 02:40.54 | gravity | I changed that factoid |
| 02:41.02 | gravity | The latter part only applies to XFree86 |
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| 02:41.18 | Guerin | gravity: oh, really ... the x md5 check is gone? |
| 02:41.18 | gravity | I could go for that |
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| 02:41.21 | gravity | Guerin: Yes |
| 02:41.24 | gravity | Well, sorta |
| 02:41.31 | gravity | But in that sense yeah |
| 02:41.35 | Guerin | nice |
| 02:41.36 | abrotman | but it still matters for sarge |
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| 02:41.54 | gravity | It does use md5, but only to let you know "hey you made local modifications that I don't know about! Backing yo shiznit up while I make a new config!" |
| 02:41.57 | nba_ | how to install OOov.2, anybody pls. thanks |
| 02:42.10 | sanxiyn | nba_: apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 02:42.10 | abrotman | what .. no kthx ? |
| 02:42.13 | asg | nba_: on what debian version? |
| 02:42.17 | Guerin | gravity: even better |
| 02:42.20 | quilon | does anyone know why I am getting this GPG error: "W: GPG error: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems" when I try to run "sudo apt-get update" |
| 02:42.28 | mfrisch | ok if I remove gcc and other compiling stuff how easy is it to put them back? |
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| 02:42.36 | Guerin | mfrisch: trivial |
| 02:42.41 | asg | mfrisch: apt-get install build-essential (that'll put them back) |
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| 02:42.55 | gravity | Guerin: Yeah. Daniel really got that one right, so I kept it. |
| 02:42.55 | mfrisch | AHH Cool. |
| 02:42.57 | abrotman | where'd jetscreamer get to ? |
| 02:42.57 | nba_ | asg: wat u mean |
| 02:42.59 | quilon | It also says: "The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" |
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| 02:43.09 | gravity | quilon: #ubuntu |
| 02:43.10 | nba_ | asg: sorry i'm new in linux |
| 02:43.14 | abrotman | quilon: you're in the wrong channel |
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| 02:43.31 | quilon | ok.. thought ubuntu was still debian... :) |
| 02:43.34 | gravity | No |
| 02:43.38 | resiak | /topic ? |
| 02:43.39 | gravity | If it was, it'd be called Debian |
| 02:43.45 | gravity | I don't know who is spreading that meme around |
| 02:43.53 | Guerin | it's not Mark Shuttleworth |
| 02:43.53 | gravity | It's kinda disturbing |
| 02:43.57 | sanxiyn | gravity: Meme spreads itself... |
| 02:43.59 | gravity | I know. It's not any of the Ubuntu team. |
| 02:44.00 | quilon | hehe ok |
| 02:44.02 | nba_ | asg: i'm using ubuntu |
| 02:44.24 | Dj4 | is there any way for debian to detect my Monitor, and everything automatic? |
| 02:44.26 | Dj4 | like ubuntu/ |
| 02:44.27 | asg | nba_: I don't know then. Try #debian-oo or #ubuntu. |
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| 02:44.28 | abrotman | gravity: i heard it was Overfiend |
| 02:44.30 | nba_ | sanxiyn: how to do that, wat u mean |
| 02:44.31 | gravity | nba_: You're welcome to hang out, but for tech support for your ubuntu system you need to ask in #ubuntu |
| 02:44.34 | gravity | abrotman: Aha! |
| 02:44.34 | Dj4 | because my Monitor fonts and stuff looks really big |
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| 02:44.45 | abrotman | gravity: either that or Garrett :) |
| 02:44.51 | gravity | hehe |
| 02:44.59 | sanxiyn | nba_: Ah, on Ubuntu, you want to get openoffice.org2 |
| 02:45.06 | Javasnob | Dj4: what driver are you using for X? |
| 02:45.09 | MacroMan | Anyone know where the keyconfig file for gnome is located? |
| 02:45.11 | Dj4 | nv Javasnob |
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| 02:45.21 | gravity | Yay nv! |
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| 02:45.23 | sanxiyn | nba_: For example, http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/editors/openoffice.org2 |
| 02:45.25 | blockd | Dj4: I'm sure Xorg uses DCC by default to detect that stuff if your monitor supports it. |
| 02:45.35 | nba_ | sanxiyn: i have downloaded the file but don't know how to install |
| 02:45.37 | Guerin | Dj4: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 02:45.44 | Dj4 | blockd: my monitor, is a Flat Screen |
| 02:45.45 | Guerin | all automatic, all the time |
| 02:45.51 | Dj4 | so i Don't really know the monitor information |
| 02:45.53 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 02:45.57 | gravity | If DDC worked all the time... |
| 02:45.59 | Dj4 | the Hydrate or w/e |
| 02:46.00 | gravity | Which it doesn't |
| 02:46.15 | Guerin | gravity: works or not ... still automatic :) |
| 02:46.16 | blockd | well works for me, but it doesn't hurt to double check |
| 02:46.18 | MacroMan | Anyone please? gnome config file? |
| 02:46.19 | Dj4 | how can i see it with hwinfo |
| 02:46.20 | gravity | heh |
| 02:46.28 | Javasnob | Dj4: What's your default bit depth, and your available resolutions for that depth? |
| 02:46.34 | Dj4 | Javasnob: don't know |
| 02:46.34 | sanxiyn | nba_: Go to #ubuntu, please. |
| 02:46.39 | Dj4 | is there any way i can see it? |
| 02:46.42 | Dj4 | with any command? |
| 02:46.47 | Guerin | !hwinfo |
| 02:46.48 | dpkg | somebody said hwinfo was your friend, apt-get install hwinfo then try "hwinfo --monitor" to detect your monitor refresh rates, or "hwinfo --framebuffer" to get VESA mode lines (in hexedecimal) for use with vga=XXX framebuffer consoles |
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| 02:47.23 | gravity | I didn't even know that existed |
| 02:47.23 | nba_ | sanxiyn: i've tried but seems nobody mind my questn, anyway, thanks |
| 02:47.28 | abrotman | ack .. i have no monitor~ |
| 02:47.30 | abrotman | ! |
| 02:47.30 | Dj4 | can someone join #flood? |
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| 02:47.42 | Dj4 | so i can pasted something |
| 02:47.44 | asg | abrotman: serial consoles are your friend |
| 02:47.46 | Javasnob | Dj4: open /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 or /etc/X11/xorg.conf (whichever exists) and take a look there |
| 02:47.53 | sanxiyn | nba_: Which release of Ubuntu are you using? |
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| 02:47.54 | abrotman | no .. really ... |
| 02:47.58 | CosmoDad | why the heck does a "post-down /sbin/ifup eth1 || true" make the ifdown'ing of my eth0 NIC hang? Can anyone tell me? |
| 02:48.04 | Dj4 | Javasnob: can u join #flood |
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| 02:48.16 | Dj4 | if it's possible |
| 02:48.17 | wang | hello, when I was running balsa every time I got mail in a pop3 account I had set up there, the phrase "You have new mail" echo'd in terminal (in bitchx mainly) I am now using thunderbird and it doesn't do that, can anyone tell me what balsa was running/manipulating that was maintaining my pop3 fetch like that? was it fetchmail or ? |
| 02:48.18 | jjazz | abrotman, mmm... teletypes |
| 02:48.18 | nba_ | sanxiyn: the hoary edition |
| 02:48.27 | abrotman | i have no monitor! |
| 02:48.32 | gravity | sanxiyn nba_ Could you two please take it to /msg? Thanks. |
| 02:48.39 | sanxiyn | nba_: Hoary doesn't include OpenOffice.org 2. Thanks. |
| 02:48.42 | asg | abrotman: well, you are typing and responding to the channel so you must be seeing something. Dunno if 'mindseye' is a viable chipset but gravity might know. |
| 02:48.43 | sanxiyn | gravity: Sorry. |
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| 02:48.58 | abrotman | asg: laptop |
| 02:49.00 | gravity | sanxiyn: np |
| 02:49.03 | gravity | mindseye? |
| 02:49.20 | asg | gravity: a joke, nevermind. |
| 02:49.35 | gravity | Ah, sorry. Wasn't following :-) |
| 02:49.40 | asg | abrotman: as in you have lcd or vga but not both. |
| 02:49.45 | gravity | trying to do a bazillion things at once |
| 02:49.51 | abrotman | asg: he's a DD .. you know they have no sense of humor ... jeez |
| 02:49.52 | asg | gravity: no worries |
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| 02:50.00 | nba_ | sanxiyn: ok thanks |
| 02:50.01 | abrotman | asg: both .. but only lcd connected |
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| 02:50.08 | gravity | zim is kinda nice. Tomboy without all the weight of mono. |
| 02:50.15 | asg | abrotman: bah, ljlane has a great sense of humor. |
| 02:50.19 | abrotman | asg: who? |
| 02:50.21 | abrotman | :) |
| 02:50.30 | asg | abrotman: iptables maintainer, among other things |
| 02:50.42 | abrotman | asg: i was joking .. when is the last time ljlane was in this channel ? |
| 02:50.51 | asg | !seen ljlane |
| 02:50.52 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'ljlane', asg |
| 02:50.54 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:50.58 | asg | abrotman: not in a long time ;) |
| 02:51.16 | asg | abrotman: probably the last time we debugged some sid issues (8 months ago or so) |
| 02:51.17 | wang | anyone mind answering my question please? =) |
| 02:51.24 | sanxiyn | I think Overfiend has sense of humor for some definition of humor. |
| 02:51.25 | abrotman | asg: not here |
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| 02:51.36 | abrotman | asg: dpkg keeps good records |
| 02:51.39 | abrotman | !seen g4lt |
| 02:51.39 | dpkg | g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 398d 2h 14m 56s ago, saying: 'toresbe actually no, policy states taht no package needs to depend on anything on base'. |
| 02:51.47 | gravity | I like Overfiend's sense of humor |
| 02:52.08 | asg | who had the Overfiend / Ron Jeremy page? |
| 02:52.19 | thingfish | hehe ron jeremy |
| 02:52.35 | gravity | I went to the premier of Ron Jermey's biography movie |
| 02:52.35 | abrotman | and what happened to bob2's movies ? |
| 02:52.43 | gravity | He was there and a bunch of porn stars |
| 02:52.45 | gravity | It was kinda weird |
| 02:52.47 | abrotman | you think? |
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| 02:52.51 | thingfish | wild |
| 02:52.51 | asg | gravity: yeah, he's an odd fellow |
| 02:53.05 | gravity | Yeah |
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| 02:53.24 | asg | gravity: Ron Jeremy that is, I've never me Overfiend so I can't say. |
| 02:53.34 | gravity | heh, me neither, although we've spoken a lot |
| 02:53.40 | gravity | One day |
| 02:53.56 | abrotman | wait .. i was in Indy .. |
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| 02:54.20 | abrotman | wait .. and next week .. i'll be within spitting distance of gravity |
| 02:54.25 | gravity | Uh oh |
| 02:54.29 | gravity | I don't wanna get spit on! |
| 02:54.32 | abrotman | gravity: not quite that close .. whitinsville |
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| 02:54.42 | abrotman | i think ... |
| 02:55.40 | abrotman | gravity: maps.google! |
| 02:55.50 | roral | spitting distance can be highly variable depending on circumstances. |
| 02:56.23 | abrotman | yes .. hurricane force winds can carry a lugie quite far :) |
| 02:56.28 | dabaR | abrotman: make sure you develop a good plan of attack on his premises. |
| 02:56.39 | Dj4 | damn |
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| 02:56.53 | abrotman | dabaR: attack with a case of beer ? :) |
| 02:57.02 | Dj4 | this sucks |
| 02:57.31 | dabaR | abrotman: you will know the delivery route then, if you look at the satellite picture. |
| 02:57.40 | abrotman | heh |
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| 03:00.49 | Tortel | Goodmight |
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| 03:00.58 | Tortel | lol |
| 03:01.07 | Tortel | **GoodNight |
| 03:01.23 | asg | goodnigt was character in which bond film ... tick .. tock. |
| 03:01.38 | asg | s/gt/ght/ |
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| 03:02.02 | CosmoDad | can anyone tell me why a "post-down /sbin/ifup eth1 || true" in /etc/networks/interfaces prevents the ifdown'ing of my eth0 NIC (hangs as if the result was erroneous)? |
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| 03:02.08 | wang | hello, when I was running balsa every time I got mail in a pop3 account I had set up there, the phrase "You have new mail" echo'd in terminal (in bitchx mainly) I am now using thunderbird and it doesn't do that, can anyone tell me what balsa was running/manipulating that was maintaining my pop3 fetch like that? was it fetchmail or ? |
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| 03:02.19 | maclover | i am having problems with sound on my Mac Mini |
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| 03:02.33 | thingfish | Goldeneye |
| 03:02.52 | thingfish | or the man with the golden gun |
| 03:03.03 | asg | thingfish: much earlier (hint: One of the films in which Maud Adams appeared) |
| 03:03.06 | maclover | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:03.08 | thingfish | ooh |
| 03:03.18 | thecoolestcow | whats the name of the peer2peer client for linux available in debian? i forget. |
| 03:03.26 | fbi | that would be octopussy |
| 03:03.28 | maclover | i need help |
| 03:03.29 | abrotman | there is more than one |
| 03:03.32 | fbi | 8 pussies |
| 03:03.33 | abrotman | gtk-gnutella is one |
| 03:03.33 | fbi | mmmmmmmmmmmmm |
| 03:03.34 | paradicelost | My d-link router-modem is not configureable to assign IP to mac addresses. is it possible configure dns on a lan machine to resolve lan machine names? |
| 03:03.38 | TwistedEmotions | thecoolestcow: google. |
| 03:03.39 | maclover | i need help i am a noob |
| 03:03.42 | asg | fbi: the other one, though you are correct that Maud Adams was in Octo |
| 03:03.49 | abrotman | thecoolestcow: apt-cache search p2p |
| 03:03.51 | thecoolestcow | TwistedEmotions:yahoo. |
| 03:03.56 | maclover | hello? |
| 03:04.01 | abrotman | !ppc |
| 03:04.01 | dpkg | methinks ppc is short for powerpc, and powerpc is the superior architecture. You worship it, and wish you were running on it. Check out http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc, or visit #debianppc, or not going to be used by Apple much longer |
| 03:04.06 | TwistedEmotions | thecoolestcow: either use torrents... aka azuerus or use limewire.. |
| 03:04.07 | maclover | soud issues Mac Mini |
| 03:04.09 | thecoolestcow | abrotman: thanks. |
| 03:04.18 | abrotman | maclover: #debianppc |
| 03:04.48 | thingfish | from russia with love! |
| 03:04.52 | asg | thingfish: nope |
| 03:04.56 | thingfish | aack |
| 03:05.02 | asg | thingfish: that's a good one though |
| 03:05.14 | wang | gtk-gnutella is nice, but a bit cluttered, if you can find a decent torrent site i'd do torrents |
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| 03:06.21 | asg | thingfish, fbi: hint #2 Herve Villechaize played the henchman |
| 03:06.36 | Frem | Hey, AbiWord mostly seems to work fine, but the spellchecker always says "The spelling check is complete" when I click on it, even when there are errors. Do I need another package installed or something? |
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| 03:11.14 | fbi | asg: don't make me bust out Google. |
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| 03:11.49 | Frem | Oh. I didn't have any dictonaries installed. Never mind... |
| 03:12.22 | thingfish | got me...I'm stumped |
| 03:12.23 | asg | fbi: final hint, the main villain in the film, Christopher Lee, played Saurman in 'The Lord of the Rings' |
| 03:12.44 | thingfish | oh damn, what was that one. |
| 03:12.44 | abrotman | yeah .. walken was the best bad guy in bond :) |
| 03:12.54 | abrotman | diamonds are forever! |
| 03:13.00 | fbi | asg: never saw that |
| 03:13.05 | asg | abrotman: no, not diamonds |
| 03:13.12 | asg | fbi: The Man with the Golden Gun |
| 03:13.16 | abrotman | if he says casino royale .. he dies! |
| 03:13.21 | asg | abrotman: A View to a Kill |
| 03:13.37 | fbi | ah. |
| 03:13.49 | jjazz | Is debian's version of wine compiled with opengl support? |
| 03:13.55 | jjazz | (I'm on testing) |
| 03:13.59 | asg | abrotman: a comedy and doesn't count as part of the pantheon |
| 03:14.10 | abrotman | asg: no . i meant for your movie |
| 03:14.51 | asg | abrotman: ah, no, not that. David Niven (close to gravity's real name which is rather scary) is good in CR though. |
| 03:15.06 | abrotman | asg: are you saying gravity is the next bond ? |
| 03:15.11 | fbi | haha |
| 03:15.13 | asg | abrotman: I'd vote for him |
| 03:15.31 | quilon | how do you install a deb package? issuing the command sudo apt-get install <package-path/name> doesn't do it |
| 03:15.38 | fbi | quilon: man dpkg |
| 03:15.39 | asg | quilon: dpkg -i <pkg> |
| 03:15.48 | fbi | asg: spoonfeeder! |
| 03:15.51 | sidiot | quilon: are you running debian? |
| 03:15.56 | sidiot | quilon: or ubuntu? |
| 03:15.56 | abrotman | "Watch as I cripple the <badguy>'s computer system .. that's right <hotgirl> .. i'm making Xorg Packages for debian!" |
| 03:15.57 | quilon | ah thanks |
| 03:15.58 | asg | fbi: s/spoon/breast/ |
| 03:16.02 | fbi | whoa. |
| 03:16.09 | thingfish | hehe |
| 03:16.10 | quilon | oops ubuntu |
| 03:16.19 | abrotman | gravity: sorry |
| 03:16.22 | gravity | hehe |
| 03:16.39 | asg | fbi: it probably won't work but it will lead to dpkg(1) eventually. |
| 03:16.43 | gravity | My girlfriend usually just taps her foot impatiently when I'm making Xorg packages |
| 03:16.50 | quilon | sidiot: isn't the package manager the same on both debian and ubuntu ? |
| 03:16.52 | fbi | word. |
| 03:16.56 | abrotman | gravity: tell her to get out and push! |
| 03:17.03 | asg | gravity: that's a patience to be treasured. |
| 03:17.08 | gravity | hahaha |
| 03:17.18 | gravity | asg: Don't I know it |
| 03:17.20 | sidiot | quilon: yeah but ubuntu uses sudo and i believe as debian you need to use su to switch to root first |
| 03:17.25 | asg | gravity: :) |
| 03:17.36 | sidiot | quilon: but if you're just trying to install a .deb file...you should do dpkg -i packagename.deb |
| 03:17.47 | dabaR | with sudo in the front in ubuntu |
| 03:17.49 | abrotman | gravity: you mean you don't hit "go" and go out for a few beers/dinner? |
| 03:17.58 | sidiot | yup and no su in ubuntu |
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| 03:18.03 | gravity | abrotman: I do, but it's amazing how long it takes until I can actually run the build |
| 03:18.09 | abrotman | oh |
| 03:18.11 | asg | abrotman, fbi, gravity: night |
| 03:18.18 | sidiot | also check out #ubuntu for the ubuntu experts! |
| 03:18.19 | abrotman | asg: what?!!? |
| 03:18.19 | gravity | asg: Later |
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| 03:18.21 | fbi | asg: peace. |
| 03:18.24 | abrotman | asg: night sir |
| 03:18.37 | gravity | quilon: Please take your ubuntu questions to #ubuntu. |
| 03:18.46 | sidiot | yeah so it's sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb |
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| 03:20.52 | abrotman | !Moo |
| 03:20.53 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 03:21.29 | d03boy | and i looook goood on the barbeque! |
| 03:21.40 | abrotman | are you venison ? |
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| 03:24.11 | shai | how do i do a diff only for when two files are the same? |
| 03:24.14 | liable | gravity: whats this mean? (EE) RADEON(0): mmap mmio: Invalid argument I get it when booting a debian 2.6.14, but my rolled one works fine. |
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| 03:24.37 | abrotman | shai: you're bordering on qotd material there |
| 03:24.38 | gravity | hrm... |
| 03:24.46 | shai | qotd? |
| 03:24.49 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:24.49 | dpkg | < hp_omnifook_2000> sry, i'm still windows-dumb |
| 03:24.55 | abrotman | that was a bad one |
| 03:24.56 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:25.00 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 03:25.01 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 03:25.02 | dpkg | [qotd91] <tarmath> I've got 2 incredibly easy questions! Anyone can answer, and thus feel better that they could be of help to someone! |
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| 03:25.05 | gravity | liable: I don't honestly know. Would you mind sending a bug report to xserver-xorg about it? Our resident DRI expert will see it. |
| 03:25.17 | abrotman | shai: reread your question |
| 03:25.19 | ryan` | anyone know why dnsmasq listens on a random udp port? |
| 03:25.20 | gravity | liable: I'd be curious to know the answer myself, but I don't have time to go delve in to the radeon driver right now |
| 03:25.25 | liable | gravity: sure. |
| 03:25.29 | liable | gravity: np. |
| 03:25.32 | gravity | Thanks |
| 03:25.52 | gravity | I'm going to get my hands dirty in the server once I get the modular stuff working. That'll make working on it a whole lot easier |
| 03:25.59 | shai | huh, diff usually tells you the differences... i want to know when they are the SAME |
| 03:26.07 | abrotman | gravity: why do i get this "(EE) You haven't passed the sid test, xorg will now bail" |
| 03:26.15 | gravity | heh |
| 03:26.30 | ryan` | dnsmasq is listening on port 1601, and I can't figure out why. |
| 03:26.35 | quilon | gravity: it wasn't an ubuntu question.. it was an apt-get question. |
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| 03:26.42 | ryan` | changes each time i restart it. |
| 03:26.43 | gravity | quilon: On ubuntu |
| 03:27.00 | abrotman | quilon: you were supplied your apt-get from ubuntu .. that makes it an ubuntu question .. we have no idea if they've patched it |
| 03:27.02 | shai | how do i do this? |
| 03:27.11 | gravity | quilon: If someone came in here and asked an apt-get question for using apt in an rpm-based distro, would you say this is the right place for it? |
| 03:27.30 | abrotman | shai: i think there's another utility for that |
| 03:27.49 | shai | abrotman, what's it called for chrissake |
| 03:27.53 | quilon | gravity: apt-get is not ubuntu specific it is used on all debain based distros... stop being so picky |
| 03:28.03 | gravity | quilon: It doesn't matter. It's not debian. |
| 03:28.13 | gravity | quilon: You do realize that Debian itself releases an OS? |
| 03:28.15 | abrotman | shai: if i knew off the top of my head .. i'd have included it on that line .. i'm looking |
| 03:28.19 | gravity | quilon: An OS that's not Ubuntu? |
| 03:28.25 | abrotman | quilon: Debian is not ubuntu .. stop being stubborn |
| 03:28.26 | abrotman | :) |
| 03:28.31 | paradicelost | This DNS thing again BIND looks way to comjplicated for me ever to figure out. yet it is installed as a default. I tried getting rid of it to make way for something simpler but the cascade of stuff which is removed because of dependancy issues does not leave much of a system left. |
| 03:28.32 | shai | tnx ;) |
| 03:28.37 | gravity | quilon: Debian does not mean "apt-get plus some other stuff". It's an actual distro. |
| 03:28.53 | quilon | gravity: gee you have a grunge over ubuntu or what.. what if I tell you I am working on debian and ubutnu and rhel ? |
| 03:29.05 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 03:29.17 | gravity | quilon: I don't care what you run and I don't have any grudge against ubuntu. I wan to keep this channel on topic. |
| 03:29.21 | Kevin`__ | lala |
| 03:29.28 | gravity | quilon: Ubuntu has its own support network. You should use it. |
| 03:29.32 | abrotman | quilon: how about you go to #fedora .. tell them you're running mandriva .. see if they help you |
| 03:29.42 | karsten | gravity: I've got some windmills for you to attack as well ;-) |
| 03:29.42 | quilon | gravity: I am using when I need to |
| 03:29.58 | gravity | karsten: I've got a whole xorg full of 'em already :-) |
| 03:30.09 | sidiot | hey guys you don't need to be a jerk to him |
| 03:30.25 | abrotman | sidiot: we explained it .. nicely .. more than once |
| 03:30.31 | quilon | sidiot: thanks man |
| 03:30.36 | fbi | gravity: have you ever seen shit like this: |
| 03:30.39 | fbi | Unknown key pressed (translated set 2, code 0xd9 on isa0060/serio0). |
| 03:30.41 | gravity | sidiot: I asked him very politely to take ubuntu questions to #ubuntu. Twice. |
| 03:30.46 | fbi | i get two of those, and they only happen in console |
| 03:30.47 | sidiot | they are right though, if you have a question about ubuntu it's better addressed at #ubuntu |
| 03:30.48 | gravity | fbi: Whoa. Nope. |
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| 03:30.55 | fbi | as soon as i hit a key, it returns to prompt |
| 03:31.09 | abrotman | wtf did shai go ? |
| 03:31.22 | gravity | I don't have the talent of breaking my system to see all the weird bugs people tend to uncover :-) |
| 03:31.23 | fbi | abrotman: to the pub? |
| 03:31.28 | abrotman | dunno |
| 03:31.35 | quilon | sidiot: but my problem applies to both as I am honestly working on debian and ubuntu |
| 03:31.43 | sidiot | ok |
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| 03:31.52 | fbi | well, i'm on a brand new wireless keyboard, and this never happened with the old one |
| 03:32.00 | fbi | i don't see why though, it's ps/2 input |
| 03:32.19 | Kevin` | perhaps the wireless is iffy |
| 03:32.19 | abrotman | i blame the windows key |
| 03:33.02 | fbi | Kevin`: how would that make a difference though, it's ps/2 at the motherboard...what happens before that connector should not effect anything |
| 03:33.10 | wang | hello, when I was running balsa every time I got mail in a pop3 account I had set up there, the phrase "You have new mail" echo'd in terminal (in bitchx mainly) I am now using thunderbird and it doesn't do that, can anyone tell me what balsa was running/manipulating that was maintaining my pop3 fetch like that? was it fetchmail or ? |
| 03:33.33 | sidiot | quilon: what's your question? |
| 03:33.39 | Kevin` | fbi if the signal is mangled or something.. seems unlikely, but |
| 03:33.43 | abrotman | wang: probably the .. uhm .. elm thing |
| 03:33.49 | abrotman | sidiot: take him to #ubuntu |
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| 03:33.52 | poopie | i just |
| 03:33.59 | fbi | pooped your pants? |
| 03:34.05 | poopie | yes |
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| 03:34.10 | abrotman | found a warm snickers in your pants ? |
| 03:34.12 | SimonRaven | gravity: i do ;). i mix & match ;). like i think i found a bug with libapache2-svn and mod_ssl where it'll give me "bad MAC" errors, when the certs are perfectly ok |
| 03:34.16 | karsten | gravity: Heh. With 3-D acceleration? |
| 03:34.18 | cusiyaco | hi |
| 03:34.29 | gravity | karsten: Barely :-) |
| 03:34.35 | cusiyaco | a have a problem wit x_includes |
| 03:34.38 | gravity | SimonRaven: I don't think I do enough mix and matching |
| 03:34.45 | gravity | cusiyaco: x_includes? |
| 03:34.49 | sidiot | abrotman: maybe there out to be a shortcut to boot someone into #ubuntu...like !dpkg boot <user> to #<channel> |
| 03:34.56 | sidiot | out/ought |
| 03:34.59 | SimonRaven | i keep my svn repo in https:// |
| 03:35.08 | abrotman | sidiot: i don't think they let hte bot kick people |
| 03:35.10 | poopie | mine has 3-d accel and gravity |
| 03:35.22 | abrotman | sidiot: and if someone is not smart enough to do it .. i don't think it will really help |
| 03:35.43 | quilon | sidiot: my question was answered by asg .. I just wanted to know how to install a deb package.. I thought it would be using the apt-get command but it infact was dpkg |
| 03:36.10 | abrotman | at the bottom of the man page for apt-get .. it tells you to read dpkg |
| 03:36.12 | abrotman | err man dpkg |
| 03:36.21 | cusiyaco | yes, when i try to execute the ./configure, it returns that can't find x_includes |
| 03:36.59 | cusiyaco | whit all the instalers |
| 03:37.12 | abrotman | installers ? |
| 03:37.19 | abrotman | installers for what ? |
| 03:37.24 | cusiyaco | yes installers |
| 03:37.33 | cusiyaco | baghira |
| 03:37.34 | gravity | cusiyaco: Do you know if x_includes is the X11 libs? |
| 03:37.43 | wang | is there any way to make xmms support wma files? |
| 03:38.03 | abrotman | quilon: you're the damn tard who won't go where you belong .. grr |
| 03:38.10 | corfe | ack, wma files |
| 03:38.11 | d03boy | I cant find any algorithm to do a simple right and left rotate for a red/black binary tree. Does anyone know of any resources? I've checked the first couple pages from google |
| 03:38.15 | wang | or better yet is it possible to convert wma files to mp3 |
| 03:38.16 | corfe | I hope you're not using them by choice :P |
| 03:38.20 | corfe | I'd suspect there's a way |
| 03:38.21 | tlivingston | how do i get apt to point to unstable? |
| 03:38.22 | abrotman | d03boy: #c ? |
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| 03:38.38 | wang | yah this album i leeched from seomeone is wma |
| 03:38.39 | d03boy | abrotman, oh crap, i thought i was in java :D |
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| 03:39.00 | corfe | wang: http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/ |
| 03:39.00 | abrotman | d03boy: i can tell you for certain you weren't .. but feel free to take quilon there to ask Ubuntu questions :) |
| 03:39.07 | wang | thanks corfe |
| 03:39.11 | fbi | tlivingston: for a dist-upgrade? or you want a package from unstable |
| 03:39.19 | tlivingston | fbi package at leasst |
| 03:39.20 | corfe | wang: no prob |
| 03:39.30 | abrotman | tlivingston: which package ? |
| 03:39.37 | fbi | !tell tlivingston about simple sid backport |
| 03:39.43 | fbi | tlivingston: man sources.list |
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| 03:40.00 | abrotman | tlivingston: which package .. and for what ..sarge or etch ? |
| 03:40.06 | tlivingston | abrotman, ohphone |
| 03:40.09 | cusiyaco | i don't know, it happens whit all the installers, but i think that mey be, couse baghira uses the x11 |
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| 03:40.13 | abrotman | ohphone ? |
| 03:40.14 | tlivingston | abrotman, currently running srage |
| 03:40.16 | tlivingston | sarge |
| 03:40.20 | SimonRaven | 'with' |
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| 03:40.36 | abrotman | !info ohphone sarge |
| 03:40.42 | tlivingston | abrotman, http://packages.debian.org/unstable/comm/ohphone |
| 03:40.48 | abrotman | tlivingston: i read |
| 03:40.51 | gravity | cusiyaco: Try installing libx11-dev |
| 03:40.58 | abrotman | tlivingston: what about gnomemeeting ? |
| 03:41.13 | tlivingston | abrotman, how about it? :-) |
| 03:41.20 | tlivingston | abrotman, any good? |
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| 03:41.43 | abrotman | tlivingston: never used it .. |
| 03:41.53 | cusiyaco | ok, but other x11 files requires don't display errors |
| 03:42.48 | gravity | Well, x_includes is something I've never seen before |
| 03:42.55 | gravity | So I don't have any idea what the actual problem is |
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| 03:45.30 | abrotman | tlivingston: i just know gnomemeeting is an H232 app .. |
| 03:45.44 | tlivingston | abrotman, ill start there.. thanks |
| 03:46.27 | abrotman | tlivingston: apt-cache search H.323 |
| 03:46.30 | SimonRaven | cusiyaco: you need -dev packages. the thing is looking for headers (and probably .la files) |
| 03:47.22 | cusiyaco | yes, thank you, i will try |
| 03:47.45 | SimonRaven | gravity: is there some meta-package that pulls in all the x -dev stuff? |
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| 03:47.57 | PumpkinP | hi |
| 03:48.05 | gravity | SimonRaven: Yes but it's going away so I don't want to encourage its use |
| 03:48.11 | SimonRaven | no i'm not ;p |
| 03:48.21 | SimonRaven | eh, ok |
| 03:48.23 | PumpkinP | Im trying to run "mount --bind" on system bootup as early as possible.. how should I do this? |
| 03:48.37 | kingsley | I updated my reports on profanity and bans on #debian, and am considering submitting them to debian's Weekly News. Would anyone like to review them first? |
| 03:48.37 | SimonRaven | /etc/fstab |
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| 03:48.57 | Jamsi | ello |
| 03:49.06 | abrotman | gravity: some day .. we're going to track down a bug . when i use fenzio(sp?)'s warzone2100 packages .. my X goes bye bye :) |
| 03:49.12 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: if I type "echo COW > newfile.txt" inside fstab.. that would work too? |
| 03:49.28 | PumpkinP | and it would make a new file on boot up? |
| 03:49.28 | gravity | abrotman: Yay DRI |
| 03:49.35 | fbi | kingsley: you have _way_ too much time on your hands. |
| 03:49.38 | abrotman | gravity: i blame X! :) |
| 03:49.47 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: a) i wouldn't do that, since > would wipe it out b) wth would you do that? |
| 03:49.56 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: man fstab |
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| 03:50.04 | gravity | Maybe once I'm done with the whole hotplugging/autodetection thing I can work on making the 3d drivers more resiliant |
| 03:50.05 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: thats not my point.. |
| 03:50.08 | abrotman | kingsley: i'm sure many people would .. |
| 03:50.13 | gravity | I don't even know *why* they crash so much |
| 03:50.15 | abrotman | kingsley: just give us all the URLs! |
| 03:50.25 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: then be clear on what you want to do |
| 03:50.40 | nekostar | ok |
| 03:50.45 | kingsley | fbi: It seems to me that #debian is an important public resource, and I volunteered some time to try to make it better. |
| 03:50.49 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: im asking if you type plain bash commands in fstab that it will execute those commands ? |
| 03:50.57 | fbi | kingsley: i was being sarcastic. |
| 03:51.00 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. don't give me the url |
| 03:51.07 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: go read man fstab first |
| 03:51.12 | kingsley | abrotman: http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/bans |
| 03:51.25 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: im in here for a reason.. Im reading what you're saying |
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| 03:51.35 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: its easy to say 'yes' or 'no' |
| 03:51.43 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: it's the file that allows you to set --bind on whatever mountpoint you want |
| 03:51.50 | abrotman | kingsley: and the profanity ? |
| 03:52.37 | thingfish | #debian attracts more crackpots than a cracked pot repair factory. |
| 03:52.40 | kingsley | abrotman: Here's the top URL: http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ |
| 03:53.07 | PumpkinP | Im running 'mount --bind' from bash... this is very specific.. would I be able to just put this in fstab? you said I could before but im trying to clarify because that sounds doubtful |
| 03:53.13 | abrotman | kingsley: wtf is s*ut ? |
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| 03:53.21 | skypa | greetings |
| 03:53.25 | abrotman | and ]*sus ? |
| 03:53.30 | kingsley | abrotman: s/\*/l/ |
| 03:53.31 | abrotman | oh .. jesus |
| 03:53.32 | abrotman | :) |
| 03:53.38 | skypa | anyone knows why the newest udev packages wants me to purge my hotplug package? :) |
| 03:53.42 | abrotman | kingsley: you might want to add a key :) |
| 03:53.49 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: you cant just put whatever you want in fstab |
| 03:54.04 | fbi | i still don't know why my nick is capitalized on that statistics page |
| 03:54.10 | abrotman | kingsley: just so you're aware .. not all of those are curse words |
| 03:54.15 | SimonRaven | PumpkinP: no, you wouldn't. again, what do you want to do? |
| 03:54.20 | PumpkinP | likely to make the machine boot in single user mode and screw me over |
| 03:54.28 | abrotman | kingsley: and also .. without context .. they don't mean much |
| 03:54.54 | SimonRaven | fuck this |
| 03:55.02 | SimonRaven | kingsley: and you quote me on that |
| 03:55.14 | abrotman | but apparently i say fucking a lot :) |
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| 03:55.30 | abrotman | and just plain old fuck |
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| 03:55.53 | abrotman | kingsley: dunno .. call butt a curse word .. that's a bit much |
| 03:56.10 | abrotman | and frigging and jesus christ(assuming you're not religious) |
| 03:56.13 | thingfish | abrotman: stop saying fuck just for the fuck of it. |
| 03:56.18 | SimonRaven | some people have strange ideas on what profanity is |
| 03:56.20 | PumpkinP | SimonRaven: just because I use the word 'mount' doesn't me I should start shoving things into fstab.. thats why I also used the 'echo & >' example |
| 03:56.25 | gravity | Ah, that |
| 03:56.38 | abrotman | hehe |
| 03:56.40 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 03:56.50 | PumpkinP | "oh look he said 'mount' tell him to edit fstab" ... UH. no |
| 03:57.07 | thingfish | I really wonder how good this channel is for one's sanity. |
| 03:57.19 | SimonRaven | how fucking hard is it to answer a simple question |
| 03:57.27 | thingfish | Lucky I'm all boozed up and immune right now. |
| 03:57.47 | fbi | how is 'dildo' a profane word? |
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| 03:58.10 | PumpkinP | I told you im trying to 'mount --bind early at boot up' or.. run anything.. early as possible at boot up |
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| 03:58.41 | PumpkinP | lets use "echo COW > dog.txt" for example.. and I want to do this early at bootup |
| 03:58.54 | Skrotto | Hi. I'm having some problems with samba. I've tried to configure the server with "security = user", but when I enter a username/password for a share, it just asks again.. I know the password is correct. Any clues? :> |
| 03:59.00 | abrotman | oh .. vagabund got banned ? |
| 03:59.16 | klys | * (this just in) I'm getting an echo from sox -v 100 -t ossdsp -r 44100 -w /dev/dsp -t wav - | sox -t wav - -t ossdsp /dev/dsp |
| 03:59.21 | kingsley | abrotman: Yes. |
| 03:59.42 | Wyzard | Skrotto: Samba passwords are stored separately and have to be set separately, with smbpasswd |
| 03:59.47 | nailbiter | PumpkinP: You can put that in a shell script named, say, /etc/rcS.d/S33mycow. The lower the number, the earlier it will be executed. |
| 03:59.48 | kingsley | abrotman: There have been about three bans per day. |
| 03:59.57 | cusiyaco | bye and thanks |
| 04:00.09 | Wyzard | Skrotto: "smbpasswd -a <username>" to add the user to the Samba user database |
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| 04:00.37 | Skrotto | Wyzard: Thanks :) |
| 04:00.43 | abrotman | kingsley: a lot of those bans you list were the spam bots that were attacking freenode |
| 04:00.57 | nailbiter | PumpkinP: Do note that very early on in the boot process, /dev may be underpopulated or empty on some systems. |
| 04:01.00 | kingsley | abrotman: Yes, I agree. |
| 04:01.09 | Wyzard | Skrotto: There's a PAM module which you can use to automatically set a user's Samba password whenever they change their regular password |
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| 04:01.09 | klys | * so, is there a way to record from only the microphone input (not the system mixer at /dev/dsp) ? |
| 04:01.18 | Wyzard | Skrotto: libpam-smbpasswd IIRC |
| 04:01.37 | nailbiter | klys: Use 'arecord'. It'll allow you to stream from a specific ALSA device |
| 04:01.39 | Skrotto | Wyzard: Okay. I have very little knowledge of how pam works, so I guess I shouldn't medle with that :) |
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| 04:01.48 | klys | nailbiter: thx much |
| 04:02.06 | abrotman | kingsley: you also have one ban showing twice |
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| 04:03.12 | paradicelost | my network cards are configure by dhcp on a d-link router-dsl-modem, IP is dynamic can not be configured statically. how do I establish DNS on the LAN |
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| 04:03.17 | kingsley | abrotman: Which one? |
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| 04:03.44 | nailbiter | paradicelost: The DHCP client will usually rewrite /etc/resolv.conf for you and hence set your DNS address. |
| 04:03.56 | Wyzard | Skrotto: Good opportunity to learn, if you're interested :-) |
| 04:04.00 | abrotman | kingsley: quittt |
| 04:04.08 | oli_ | heyy |
| 04:04.10 | nailbiter | paradicelost: But if the router doesn't include a DNS service, you're basically stuck |
| 04:04.31 | oli_ | ne1 here from nz |
| 04:04.45 | blockd | paradicelost: are you talking about running an internal DNS server on your LAN? |
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| 04:04.54 | fbi | oli_: probably, what's that have to do with Debian. |
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| 04:04.59 | encompass | hi all |
| 04:05.03 | abrotman | kingsley: find it ? |
| 04:05.07 | blockd | and then DHCP means you have to update the records each time it changes like at say dyndns |
| 04:05.22 | encompass | ho do I erase my entire gpg keys for my user? |
| 04:05.23 | Skrotto | Wyzard: Ill look into it, but I have a lot of other stuff to do/learn first :) |
| 04:05.29 | encompass | are they located somewhere? |
| 04:05.33 | paradicelost | blockd: yes |
| 04:05.43 | Wyzard | encompass: ~/.gnupg |
| 04:05.48 | nailbiter | encompass: They're in ~/.gnupg. But I suggest you use --armor and --export to dump keys. |
| 04:05.48 | encompass | thanks |
| 04:05.49 | oli_ | were can u get msn 4 ubuntu |
| 04:05.54 | foreyez | hey guys, how would i search for the sting "/*" in vi? |
| 04:05.57 | fbi | oli_: #ubuntu |
| 04:06.00 | gravity | oli_: I don't know. Ask in #ubuntu. |
| 04:06.01 | encompass | I don't use any of them |
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| 04:06.07 | encompass | can I jsut delete? |
| 04:06.10 | The_Vulture | foreyez: /\/\* |
| 04:06.10 | marculix | foreyez: \/* |
| 04:06.20 | marculix | The_Vulture is right |
| 04:06.29 | oli_ | ive looked everywere n it wont work |
| 04:06.39 | The_Vulture | the leading '/' is for activating search mode, in case you're using it somewhere else you won't need that |
| 04:06.46 | Wyzard | encompass: If you have a private key and understand the implications of deleting it, and you're sure you want to do it, then yes |
| 04:07.04 | fbi | oli_: /part; /j #ubuntu |
| 04:07.06 | Wyzard | encompass: If you're concerned about recoverability then you might want to use a secure-deletion tool |
| 04:07.07 | foreyez | tnx |
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| 04:07.31 | encompass | ok, if I don't have one that I use, but made one not knowing what I was doing, then I shall delete |
| 04:07.38 | nailbiter | paradicelost: If you want to run an internal DNS service on your LAN, I'd suggest using a Debian box with two network interfaces as a gateway. One interface can face the router, and the other your internal LAN. That way, you won't have the router interfere with address assignment |
| 04:07.45 | kingsley | abrotman: Are the actual ban lines different? |
| 04:07.46 | encompass | nah, not worried about it |
| 04:08.00 | Wyzard | encompass: In that case, if you don't have anything important encrypted to it, just rm it |
| 04:08.12 | encompass | thanks |
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| 04:08.20 | Wyzard | encompass: You should consider actually using it though :-) |
| 04:08.36 | paradicelost | nailbiter: local dns is not provided by the router. the routers manual explains all things windows |
| 04:08.37 | encompass | I do plan on using it... but want to get aclean start |
| 04:08.41 | Wyzard | encompass: (For example, I sign all email that I send, just because it's a good thing to do, even though nobody I know actually checks the signatures) |
| 04:08.50 | encompass | I have been playing with it for some time but haven't got it right |
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| 04:09.20 | abrotman | kingsley: i didn't think so .. the stanzas are next to each other |
| 04:09.29 | encompass | yeah, I have people that want me too, because they want to makesure it is all from me. |
| 04:09.42 | encompass | Wyzard: thank you for the help |
| 04:09.45 | Wyzard | np |
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| 04:10.07 | godless | question: I'm experiencing problems with my speakers, 5.1 sound seems broken except when I run ac3 sound in "pass through" mode (xine). I could live with that but the games (doom3 & quake4) also have the same problem, ie no center speaker, woofer to the right speaker etc. |
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| 04:10.35 | mhall | What is the canonical package for converting a PDF to an HTML / UTF-8 approximation of its textual contents. |
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| 04:10.52 | kingsley | abrotman: If the ban lines are different, it's probably a case of multiple bans matching the same chat. |
| 04:10.52 | godless | I read somewhere that windows uses a different 5,1 arrangement and my speaker set is a logitech 5.1 set |
| 04:10.54 | nailbiter | mhall: You can use 'xpdf-utils'. |
| 04:10.57 | paradicelost | nailbiter: The Idea is that even if no other machines are up any single machine can operate and access the internet |
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| 04:11.12 | abrotman | kingsley: same with redrumpwns |
| 04:11.13 | encompass | godless: check you also mixer settings... I think there is a place you can set the speakers to diff ports |
| 04:11.14 | fevel | My mouse wheel isnt working and my mouse has 5 buttons (not including the wheel button). How do I set it up?? |
| 04:11.25 | mhall | nailbiter: which command inside of it? i looked at all pdf2 commands but could not find any terribly useful ones |
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| 04:11.38 | doojin | hi guys |
| 04:11.42 | doojin | http://www.sinfulshirts.com/customize.php?shirt=104 this is a funny picture |
| 04:11.45 | encompass | hi gy |
| 04:11.46 | doojin | Come to jesus! |
| 04:11.47 | nailbiter | paradicelost: In that case, can you make do without a local DNS? ;-) |
| 04:11.49 | mhall | nailbiter: nm, pdftotext seems to be it |
| 04:11.58 | mhall | nailbiter: i'm used to UN*X spelling it seems :-) |
| 04:12.09 | nailbiter | mhall: ;-) That only sometimes works--some PDFs don |
| 04:12.10 | encompass | doojin: it is people like you that give true christianity a bad name |
| 04:12.18 | nailbiter | mhall: 't flow text linearly and you'll get chopped up extractions |
| 04:12.25 | mhall | nailbiter: yeah no big deal |
| 04:12.32 | mhall | nailbiter: if it fucks up i will copy paste |
| 04:12.33 | fbi | it's people like doojin that keep schools for gifted children in business. |
| 04:12.42 | doojin | fbi : what? |
| 04:12.44 | godless | encompass : in alsamixer ? I tried flipping states there but it's mostly for center or linefeed etc |
| 04:13.03 | doojin | fbi : I'm not good at english |
| 04:13.06 | fevel | how do I configure my wheel? |
| 04:13.08 | encompass | godless: that was my best shot... sorry. |
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| 04:13.33 | godless | encompass : np tnx, will try flipping aumix around soon probably |
| 04:13.35 | encompass | godless: I had 4 speaker and a SUB and it worked for me |
| 04:14.04 | godless | encompass: sound is also working great here, but only using coax |
| 04:14.11 | encompass | my problem was when I rebooted to windows my speakers where plugged into the wrong places |
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| 04:14.43 | abrotman | kingsley: and Guilherme |
| 04:14.56 | godless | encompass: I don't have an option to connect the speakers wrongly :( else I would have done the manual work-around :) |
| 04:15.23 | encompass | doojin: then why do you tell someone to come unto jesus when you can't take the heat in that language |
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| 04:15.43 | encompass | godless: what is your s card? |
| 04:15.45 | abrotman | kingsley: apparently .. either i'm doing all the trolling .. or it happens while i'm sleeping :) |
| 04:16.14 | theNeonGod | can i convince someone with good hardware experience to check out my forum post: http://forums.amd.com/index.php?showtopic=60371&st=0&p=541462&#entry541462 |
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| 04:16.32 | paradicelost | nailbiter: everybody has access the network easily (wife, kids and visitors ) a dynamic IP with no resolver is no good |
| 04:16.40 | mozez | hey guys, apart from /etc/passwd are there any other 'known' places the passwd resides? |
| 04:16.42 | encompass | mine was a simple soundblaster from walmart. |
| 04:16.45 | godless | encompass: onboard via |
| 04:16.54 | abrotman | theNeonGod: #hardware might be a better group of people |
| 04:16.54 | encompass | hmm, the good old ac3 |
| 04:17.03 | theNeonGod | abrotman didnt know about the chan. thanx. |
| 04:17.13 | abrotman | theNeonGod: enjoy! |
| 04:17.21 | godless | :) |
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| 04:17.55 | abrotman | mozez: depends on your authentication mechanism |
| 04:18.01 | encompass | gosh... um... and you have tried diff plugs |
| 04:18.03 | TCW | timecheck: What local time do you folks have right now? :) *serious question* |
| 04:18.04 | paradicelost | nailbiter: could I configure a local dhcp server to relay info from the router? |
| 04:18.17 | abrotman | !date |
| 04:18.18 | dpkg | The current date is Wed Nov 9 04:18:17 2005 (UTC of course, this is *NIX) |
| 04:18.20 | encompass | finding which one is the sub |
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| 04:18.41 | starscalling | yay installing sarge <3 |
| 04:18.44 | Wyzard | TCW: Maybe you'd be interested in an NTP client? |
| 04:18.47 | abrotman | heh |
| 04:18.52 | fbi | !beer starscalling |
| 04:18.55 | encompass | those ac3 can be reconfiged all over the place |
| 04:19.10 | fbi | yuengling ooooooooeeer *gasm* |
| 04:19.18 | starscalling | lol |
| 04:19.35 | starscalling | ive been using ubuntu for a while and frankly im tired of some of the little things... |
| 04:19.46 | starscalling | its a nice distro but i missed debain much more so yay :D |
| 04:19.53 | Wyzard | starscalling: Out of curiosity, what sort of little things? |
| 04:19.58 | starscalling | o: |
| 04:19.59 | abrotman | !88741/92 |
| 04:19.59 | dpkg | 964.576086956522 |
| 04:20.03 | abrotman | erm ... |
| 04:20.04 | TCW | Wyzard, no... I am just wondering if there are more nuts like me with a broken sleep-awake-rhythm... nothing more :) |
| 04:20.04 | starscalling | like azureus not working right |
| 04:20.04 | abrotman | wrong way |
| 04:20.09 | godless | encompass: hmm, the plugs are murder, the center and sub are the same plug, front left and right, rear left and right, and there is only 1 way to connect it to my 5.1 set (logitech z5500 digital) |
| 04:20.11 | starscalling | like mplayer not working right |
| 04:20.14 | Wyzard | TCW: ah, ok :-) |
| 04:20.25 | starscalling | like needing to compile all the programs i like to get a decently new version |
| 04:20.32 | starscalling | either that or steal it from debian sarge |
| 04:20.38 | abrotman | haha .. .001% of my words were curse words(as kingsley defines them) |
| 04:20.41 | starscalling | so whats the point might as well just use debian :D |
| 04:20.46 | starscalling | oh right |
| 04:20.57 | starscalling | and my system running about 20% faster with debian for some reason |
| 04:21.16 | abrotman | TCW: not at all . i know a guy who sleeps from 8am to 4pm every day (roughly) .. |
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| 04:21.30 | Wyzard | starscalling: Well, a few months from now, Ubuntu will have a new release with newer software than sarge |
| 04:21.37 | starscalling | yes |
| 04:21.41 | encompass | godless: dang, sounds like it is set up for a cheep sound system |
| 04:21.47 | starscalling | and i will probably move up to the new debian distro |
| 04:21.47 | encompass | not seporate sub plug |
| 04:21.49 | Wyzard | starscalling: but I'm just curious about people's opinions on Ubuntu vs. Debian |
| 04:21.50 | sanxiyn | And when will Debian release? :-) |
| 04:21.54 | starscalling | well |
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| 04:21.58 | encompass | I would see if you can google and find the plug settings |
| 04:22.08 | topher | i set up debian 3.x on a ppc and have eth0 as my airport wireless. it works great, but i recently added a wpa/tsik requirement on my router. how do i add this key to my config files? does it go in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 04:22.12 | starscalling | ubuntu is nice and all and very friendly ppl and lots of good guides that speell things out |
| 04:22.15 | Wyzard | sanxiyn: Every 18 months, ideally |
| 04:22.29 | abrotman | Wyzard: you cursed 500 times in the last month |
| 04:22.31 | starscalling | but i see debian as the key to it really |
| 04:22.33 | sanxiyn | Wyzard: That places Etch at 2006/12, roughly. |
| 04:22.38 | godless | encompass : :) |
| 04:22.43 | starscalling | and frankly |
| 04:22.45 | Wyzard | abrotman: I did? |
| 04:22.50 | fbi | topher: #debianppc might know |
| 04:22.51 | abrotman | Wyzard: no :) |
| 04:22.55 | starscalling | i use debian on my servers so i might as well have the same desktop |
| 04:23.08 | godless | encompass : been googling like crazy :) maybe I'm turning blind :) |
| 04:23.12 | Wyzard | starscalling: Makes sense |
| 04:23.15 | sanxiyn | starscalling: Hm, that's strange reason. |
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| 04:23.25 | abrotman | Wyzard: you rarely curse |
| 04:23.26 | starscalling | LOL |
| 04:23.26 | encompass | dang.. wish I could help. |
| 04:23.36 | starscalling | sanxiyn why do you say that |
| 04:23.36 | godless | encompass: I swear I saw it somewhere before I bought the set, but well |
| 04:23.37 | sanxiyn | I have no problem having server and desktop with different software. |
| 04:23.38 | godless | :) |
| 04:23.43 | fbi | abrotman: where are you pulling those numbers? |
| 04:23.47 | sanxiyn | They do different things. |
| 04:23.49 | Wyzard | starscalling: I run Debian sid on my desktop, but I'm planning on buying a new laptop soon, and wondering whether I should install Debian or Ubuntu on it |
| 04:23.55 | Wyzard | abrotman: Never, I think |
| 04:23.57 | abrotman | fbi: http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc .. the stuff from kingsley |
| 04:24.06 | abrotman | Wyzard: you're a slacker :) |
| 04:24.12 | starscalling | try ubuntu Wyzard its nice |
| 04:24.22 | starscalling | if you dont like it you know debian anyway ~_^ |
| 04:24.27 | fbi | yeah, but i only saw like 10 nicks on the profanity page |
| 04:24.36 | Wyzard | starscalling: Oh, I've used it a bit -- I have it on a secondary system here |
| 04:24.43 | abrotman | which is odd .. since the PGSI stats list other people as heavy cursers |
| 04:24.53 | sanxiyn | Yay! I am included in "These didn't make it to the top". |
| 04:24.56 | sanxiyn | I didn't expect that. |
| 04:25.05 | starscalling | but for me the key cause is im not good enough to compile my own kernel anyway and breezy has a problem or two with the stock which is not surprizing im sure |
| 04:25.05 | abrotman | fbi: just the top 10 .. of common people i guess |
| 04:25.15 | abrotman | damn shai .. left |
| 04:25.20 | sanxiyn | sanxiyn (1218) <- amazing |
| 04:25.27 | abrotman | sanxiyn: amazing what ? |
| 04:25.27 | starscalling | but the couple programs you need to be good to get to work right are the main ones i use |
| 04:25.33 | starscalling | like mplayer and azureus |
| 04:25.34 | fbi | abrotman can't control his/her aggressions, either. He/She picked on others 13 times. |
| 04:25.36 | fbi | bwahah |
| 04:25.43 | abrotman | hehe |
| 04:25.47 | kingsley | The profanity report lists the top 10 overall. |
| 04:25.47 | fbi | meanie! |
| 04:25.56 | abrotman | kingsley: you forgot d*mn ... |
| 04:26.01 | Wyzard | starscalling: That does surprise me a bit, actually... but I compile custom kernels anyway |
| 04:26.02 | starscalling | other than that it was a very nice experience |
| 04:26.07 | abrotman | (which i say a lot i think( |
| 04:26.19 | starscalling | Wyzard then definately try it for the laptop i would say |
| 04:26.22 | sanxiyn | dpkg is a very aggressive person. He/She attacked others 40 times. |
| 04:26.24 | sanxiyn | s/person/bot/ |
| 04:26.30 | abrotman | he's a right bastard! |
| 04:26.38 | starscalling | im going to try my hand at messing up a kernel or three in a couple weeks |
| 04:26.41 | fbi | !gender |
| 04:26.41 | dpkg | I'm male |
| 04:26.43 | abrotman | kingsley: i think you frogot b*tch too |
| 04:26.46 | Wyzard | starscalling: I like Ubuntu's newer software -- it gets stuff like xorg and GNOME before even sid does -- but I like the Debian community so it's a tough decision |
| 04:26.49 | starscalling | !gender |
| 04:26.58 | encompass | My wife is finnish and knows english... she swears in english alot, I don't like it so she has substituted Bill s#¤t with bunny's poo |
| 04:27.10 | starscalling | right Wyzard sure sure |
| 04:27.21 | starscalling | i would rather have a stable xorg though |
| 04:27.41 | gravity | Well, I wouldn't call Debian's xorg 100% stable yet, but I'm working on it |
| 04:27.41 | Wyzard | starscalling: hehe... I'm already running Debian's experimental 6.9 packages on my laptop :-) |
| 04:27.43 | abrotman | kingsley: and ass*ole :) |
| 04:27.45 | starscalling | and i want to try out some other dm's like enlightenment |
| 04:27.48 | starscalling | lol sweet |
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| 04:27.56 | daurnimator | um |
| 04:27.58 | starscalling | how do they work for ya Wyzard |
| 04:28.02 | daurnimator | is their a channel for C? |
| 04:28.04 | abrotman | kingsley: though .. TBH .. i would only consider fuck,shit,ass and thier derivatives as curse words |
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| 04:28.13 | cheal | gravity: what's wrong with it? |
| 04:28.13 | Wyzard | gravity: Well, I've had no problems on this system ever since I turned off RenderAccel the other day :-) |
| 04:28.16 | abrotman | daurnimator: #c .. oddly enough :) |
| 04:28.20 | daurnimator | cool |
| 04:28.22 | daurnimator | thx |
| 04:28.30 | gravity | cheal: debconf bug(s) mainly |
| 04:28.30 | starscalling | abrotman: god dam sonofabitch |
| 04:28.33 | starscalling | lol |
| 04:28.34 | abrotman | hehe |
| 04:28.37 | Wyzard | starscalling: No problems so far, but my laptop is old (that's why I'm buying a new one) and I don't push it very hard |
| 04:28.39 | starscalling | [just for the record] |
| 04:28.45 | cheal | gravity: ah, I thought that was over |
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| 04:28.51 | gravity | cheal: No, I've been putting it off :-) |
| 04:29.00 | gravity | cheal: I'm hoping someone else will do it while I work on the modular packages. |
| 04:29.01 | starscalling | ah sweet Wyzard i need to get one soon |
| 04:29.04 | fbi | to be honest, i haven't had any issues on stable using xorg backports but xorg on etch has given me issues (with opengl) |
| 04:29.09 | gravity | Once the modular packages are ready, I'll fix it up |
| 04:29.20 | starscalling | etch ? |
| 04:29.27 | fbi | etch == testing |
| 04:29.29 | gravity | starscalling: testing |
| 04:29.31 | starscalling | oooo |
| 04:29.35 | starscalling | shiney |
| 04:29.35 | abrotman | kingsley: did all that help at all ? |
| 04:29.38 | kingsley | abrotman: Thanks for your feedback. I'm wondering if d*mn, b*tch and as*hole aren't listed because the top 10 potty mouths didn't use them or there's a bug in the script. |
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| 04:29.51 | cheal | gravity: ah, I thought you said a while ago the next upload would fix it, after the last upload was supposed to have fixed it |
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| 04:30.05 | gravity | cheal: Yeah, it was supposed to. I didn't test it as thouroughly as I should have. |
| 04:30.05 | starscalling | im a little burned on testing in general |
| 04:30.06 | abrotman | kingsley: and does it include stuff like .. "fucktard" in "fuck" ? |
| 04:30.13 | starscalling | but packages im good with |
| 04:30.20 | gravity | cheal: There's some small logic bug, but I don't want to keep rebuilding all of X to find it |
| 04:30.21 | cheal | gravity: ok |
| 04:30.33 | starscalling | gaim azureus xine mplayer bittornado xmms are my mainstay |
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| 04:30.39 | gravity | cheal: And I won't be sure I've got it until I do that, so modular will make the whole thing a lot easier to diagnose and fix |
| 04:30.40 | abrotman | kingsley: yeah .. i gotta say .. if you don't count "damn" .. you can't count "piss,jesus,christ,penis" |
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| 04:30.58 | mozez | hey when i do a "find -name blabla" it keeps returning lots of "Permission denied" is there a way to get rid of those and only return the results i'm looking for? |
| 04:31.04 | gravity | And I can't build modular until I get this damn mesa built :-( |
| 04:31.10 | starscalling | everything else is icing to be honest.. oh and i run a dual monitor dualhead display |
| 04:31.19 | corfe | mozez: try find =name blablah 2> /dev/null |
| 04:31.19 | starscalling | sanxiyn plz dont version me |
| 04:31.27 | sanxiyn | starscalling: Why not? |
| 04:31.32 | corfe | mozez: oops that should be -name, not =name |
| 04:31.32 | starscalling | just ask this is my windows machine while im installing |
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| 04:31.49 | starscalling | im too lazy to change my version is all |
| 04:31.52 | mozez | corfe, what does 2> do? |
| 04:32.06 | cheal | gravity: oh I didn't realize etch's X.org was so many versions back sid. hit by the toolchain issues too? :( |
| 04:32.07 | blockd | mozez: try find -name bla 2>/dev/null |
| 04:32.10 | corfe | mozez: it pipes stderr to a file |
| 04:32.17 | mozez | corfe, ah okay thanks |
| 04:32.28 | corfe | mozez: normal output is stdout, errors are stderr, use 2 to pipe stderr instead of stdout |
| 04:32.29 | corfe | mozez: no prob |
| 04:32.39 | gravity | cheal: Nah, my own bug. It should be going in soon I think... |
| 04:32.44 | gravity | Although it could be porter issues |
| 04:32.44 | starscalling | and im in a few dozen chans so that can lag my irc sanxiyn |
| 04:32.46 | dondelelcaro | kingsley: if you feel like pointing out the bans that you feel were improper, you can do so in /msg; as far as profanity goes, that is primarily in the eye of the beholder. If it's a problem for you, regexes to filter out profanity are fairly trivial. |
| 04:32.48 | kingsley | abrotman: I'll look at the profanity script and try to figure out why it's not reporting d*mn. Thanks. |
| 04:33.01 | gravity | -10 is solid aside from the debconf issue, which is more annoying than crippling |
| 04:33.03 | Manoj_ | what's a profanity script? |
| 04:33.25 | mozez | blockd, it tells me "paths must precede expression" |
| 04:33.41 | cheal | gravity: yes...it seems it just built everywhere it matters though. so what bug were you talking about? |
| 04:33.51 | blockd | oops, I mean find <base directory> -name bla 2 >/dev/null |
| 04:34.01 | kingsley | dondelelcaro: I'm not an op, so I don't claim to know the best way to run #debian. I'm just reporting it as I see it. |
| 04:34.05 | gravity | cheal: A small goof that showed off how little I know about shell scripting that kept x11-common from being installable |
| 04:34.08 | blockd | IOW, maybe <base directory> = "." or "/home/user" or something |
| 04:34.14 | gravity | cheal: Which I didn't catch because of another bug in experimental |
| 04:34.19 | gravity | Fixed now though |
| 04:34.46 | Manoj_ | kingsley, the fact there is profanity on irc is interesting? to whom, may I ask? |
| 04:34.57 | fbi | dondelelcaro: do you know how to toggle off messages being reported to my console (setkeycodes errors specifically); they pop up on top of whatever i am working on and it's quite a nuisance |
| 04:34.58 | mozez | blockd, still no don't work :S |
| 04:34.59 | starscalling | lol |
| 04:34.59 | cheal | gravity: hum ok. thanks for not putting me on /ignore once again :) |
| 04:35.05 | blockd | although I just realized corfe already answered that some scrollage ago.. |
| 04:35.06 | gravity | cheal: No problem :-) |
| 04:35.11 | dondelelcaro | fbi: should be some printk setting. |
| 04:35.13 | abrotman | fbi: do you have elm installed ? |
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| 04:35.23 | kingsley | dondelelcaro: Nor am I a registered user, so evidently I can't use /msg. However, if you'd like, I could draw your attention to some bans that I don't understand in a new channel, like #report, for example. |
| 04:35.23 | fbi | abrotman: nope |
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| 04:35.38 | abrotman | fbi: there used to be a script int he elm(i think) package that would occasinally check your mail . and tell you on the terminals |
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| 04:36.09 | fbi | abrotman: but these errors are from my new keyboard..... |
| 04:36.11 | starscalling | btw |
| 04:36.27 | abrotman | fbi: you sohuld throw it in the trash! |
| 04:36.32 | fbi | there are only two errors, if i hit Enter it returns to prompt |
| 04:36.32 | starscalling | is default desktop enviornment gnome or kde in debain these days [using netinstall] |
| 04:36.47 | fbi | however if i am editing a file, i have to save + close + re-open it |
| 04:36.49 | dondelelcaro | kingsley: go right ahead; I'm in that channel now. |
| 04:36.58 | gravity | starscalling: It installs both if you choose the desktop task but I think it'll load you to gnome |
| 04:36.58 | fbi | this doesn't happen in a terminal in an X session |
| 04:37.11 | starscalling | awesome gravity thanx ^^;; |
| 04:37.14 | kingsley | Manoj_: Thanks for asking. I'm interested in the paradox of keeping hundreds of people joined, while keeping the so called channel "temperature" down. It seems to me that profanity raises the temp. |
| 04:37.22 | gravity | starscalling: No problem |
| 04:37.32 | Wyzard | starscalling: I suggest against choosing any "tasks" when installing, if you're not a beginner |
| 04:37.48 | Manoj_ | kingsley, hell no. some profanity can let off steam, and can be damn funny at other times. |
| 04:37.54 | Wyzard | starscalling: They just dump a bunch of packages on your system which you don't necessarily want all of |
| 04:38.02 | starscalling | yeah figured i would see what comes with basic install this time Wyzard for desktop // workstation |
| 04:38.07 | gravity | Manoj_: Fuck yeah |
| 04:38.11 | Wyzard | starscalling: Install the base system, and then apt-get other things (like gnome-desktop-environment) as-needed |
| 04:38.12 | Manoj_ | and, jesus! it can be an expression of surprise |
| 04:38.26 | starscalling | ill be choosing more carefully next install in a few days :P |
| 04:39.27 | Manoj_ | and judicious springling of profanity can lend itself to being far more expressive then placid, dull, turgid speach |
| 04:39.28 | abrotman | Manoj_: or technically a nick .. a person's name .. |
| 04:39.30 | tictac | Wyzard: i suggest never to use tasksel or dselect at all. ever. :) |
| 04:39.47 | Manoj_ | abrotman, ecastor! you don't say |
| 04:39.51 | abrotman | hehe |
| 04:39.58 | Wyzard | tictac: Sounds good to me :-) |
| 04:40.02 | blockd | mozez: make sure there's no space in "2>/dev/null" |
| 04:40.25 | blockd | or at least between 2 and > |
| 04:40.44 | blockd | (no space between them, that is) |
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| 04:40.56 | fbi | where do i find/edit printk settings? |
| 04:41.37 | pirving | MEPIS |
| 04:41.40 | pirving | ha |
| 04:41.41 | abrotman | fbi: does the syslog.conf have anything ? |
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| 04:41.46 | fbi | one sec |
| 04:41.54 | pirving | everyone should just install mepis and stop complaining |
| 04:42.02 | gravity | pirving: #mepis |
| 04:42.03 | abrotman | why would i want to use MEPIS ? |
| 04:42.14 | abrotman | or keep spelling it as MEPIS |
| 04:42.22 | pirving | I'm a mepis lover #mepislover |
| 04:42.31 | sidiot | what would you want tofurkey when you could have turkey? |
| 04:42.33 | abrotman | kingsley: see .. like that :) |
| 04:42.37 | fbi | abrotman: nothing that applies to this error, no |
| 04:42.46 | abrotman | fbi: i meant to the logging to the screen part |
| 04:43.22 | fbi | i don't see anything, no |
| 04:44.12 | fbi | the only thing that pertains to 'xconsole' is commented |
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| 04:45.18 | fbi | it appears that everything is getting logged to /var/log |
| 04:45.46 | Manoj_ | did you hear about the marine sergeant who discovered the 50 calibre machine gun in his platoon was malfunctioning? |
| 04:46.00 | abrotman | Manoj_: he said fuck ? :) |
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| 04:46.05 | Varanger | I have some Audio CD's which I want to make bakcups in FLAC files... how can I do that in Linux? which apps would I need? |
| 04:46.21 | abrotman | Varanger: apt-cache search flac |
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| 04:46.43 | sidiot | Varanger: maybe /msg dpkg flac |
| 04:46.45 | fbi | abrotman: later. |
| 04:46.45 | gravity | Varanger: I think grip could work as an easy frontend for it, but you'd need flacenc or whatever it's called. Follow abrotman's suggestion to find the package that's in |
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| 04:46.59 | Manoj_ | He reportedly said "Fuck! The fucking fuck's fucking fucked! Fuck!" Translation: Dar. This piece of equipment is malfunctioning. I am most displeased. |
| 04:47.09 | abrotman | hehe |
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| 04:47.57 | liable | Manoj_: you'll be in the top ten before you know it. :) |
| 04:48.14 | jollyr | any one knows how to register nick on the asterisk chanel |
| 04:48.30 | Manoj_ | liable, I fucking well hope so. I mean, jesus, what does it take to make it into the list, dammit? |
| 04:48.35 | starscalling | gravity if you dont mind me asking where does debian sarge keep xorg.conf? |
| 04:48.37 | gravity | jollyr: Same way as for the rest of freenode? /msg nickserv help |
| 04:48.45 | TwistedEmotions | What program does streaming audio again? And does it have a que system? |
| 04:48.57 | gravity | starscalling: Sarge doesn't have xorg. It's XF86Config-4 in sarge. |
| 04:49.13 | gravity | TwistedEmotions: icecast? |
| 04:49.14 | liable | haha |
| 04:49.19 | TwistedEmotions | I mean if *I* want to stream my own music... not if I want to connect to streams |
| 04:49.20 | jollyr | thanks gravity |
| 04:49.22 | sidiot | starscalling: if you want xorg, you need to use a backport or upgrade to testing |
| 04:49.26 | starscalling | o: thanx so mod that to get dual monitors up then gravity? |
| 04:49.26 | gravity | jollyr: No problem |
| 04:49.28 | TwistedEmotions | gravity: if I want to stream music? |
| 04:49.30 | Manoj_ | starscalling, I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 04:49.40 | Manoj_ | err, I have /etc/X11/xorg.conf, dammit. |
| 04:49.43 | starscalling | heh |
| 04:49.48 | fbi | haha |
| 04:49.50 | gravity | starscalling: Right. I don't know how to do that, since I've never run on two monitors, but there should be docs around if you google |
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| 04:50.07 | starscalling | ive had up and running with xorg ill test a little thanx lots |
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| 04:51.00 | gravity | starscalling: It's XFree86 in sarge |
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| 04:51.18 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 04:51.23 | SimonRaven | hi |
| 04:51.25 | starscalling | hum i have the XF86Config-4 so ill try it |
| 04:51.28 | liable | humbug :) |
| 04:51.52 | Manoj_ | now, if we ask (damn) nicely (epollux), gravity shall unleash the fucking awesome modular Xorg into Sid one of these blighted days |
| 04:52.00 | sanxiyn | Spelling I'll as ill is ill? |
| 04:52.12 | gravity | Manoj_: I'm trying to build it as we speak :-) |
| 04:52.19 | gravity | mesa is a massive freaking bear though |
| 04:52.28 | Manoj_ | gravity, you mean, as we fucking speak? |
| 04:53.03 | gravity | Manoj_: You bet your fucking ass |
| 04:53.17 | Manoj_ | where are the bloody profanity stats, anyway? |
| 04:53.30 | dondelelcaro | !fgi Manoj_ |
| 04:53.44 | microsys | err, hi |
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| 04:53.50 | tictac | hmm |
| 04:53.53 | sanxiyn | !fgi |
| 04:53.53 | dpkg | well, fgi is http://www.fuckinggoogleit.com/, and see http://www.moule.org/images/bart.jpg |
| 04:54.10 | microsys | i came to the point, i would like to start doing backups |
| 04:54.21 | gravity | The bart.jpg doesn't exist any more :-( |
| 04:54.36 | Manoj_ | dondelelcaro, oh. I have no wish to be inundated by batist churchnreferences -- but I'll try it |
| 04:54.37 | gravity | Whoa, topher! |
| 04:54.39 | dondelelcaro | yeah; it's a two argument factoid... had forgotten that. |
| 04:54.45 | gravity | Fuck |
| 04:55.15 | liable | err, eyes :) |
| 04:55.18 | maja | sorry to ask but can any one access gmail.com ? |
| 04:55.20 | microsys | having 1 machine at once to backup, what free (OSS) backupsystem would you reccomend? |
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| 04:55.32 | maja | apeares to be down in .za |
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| 04:55.42 | sanxiyn | maja: Up here. |
| 04:55.53 | jollyr | yes gmail.com is fine |
| 04:56.01 | microsys | should be able to differ beetween images/documents/movies etc. since only relevant files should be backuped ;P |
| 04:56.06 | maja | thanks |
| 04:56.11 | maja | must be telskum |
| 04:56.20 | sanxiyn | jollyr: Google can have country-specific downtime... |
| 04:56.50 | sanxiyn | I think Google uses GeoIP-like technic. |
| 04:57.11 | xuniluser | Help: Can windowsXP boot in a slave or secondary HD? |
| 04:57.24 | maja | google.co.za ? |
| 04:57.28 | liable | maja: rsync, however if you google, you will fing plenty of howtos for linux backup solutions. |
| 04:57.32 | Wyzard | xuniluser: I've tried that and it hung |
| 04:57.34 | liable | find.. |
| 04:57.39 | Manoj_ | fuck. As I suspected, searching through the bloody plethora of results is fucking madness. Not in the first bloody page. I did get a damned interesting page : http://www.redbrick.dcu.ie/~magluby/chatstats/chatstats0405.shtml |
| 04:57.46 | Wyzard | xuniluser: You can use GRUB's "map" command to make Windows think it's on the first drive though |
| 04:58.09 | microsys | it runs fine here |
| 04:58.13 | Wyzard | xuniluser: map (hd0) (hd1) |
| 04:58.15 | maja | liable: thanks i knew that, try http://wiki.clug.org.za/index.php/ too |
| 04:58.17 | Wyzard | xuniluser: map (hd1) (hd0) |
| 04:58.21 | dondelelcaro | !debstats |
| 04:58.21 | dpkg | rumour has it, debstats is managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 04:58.24 | dondelelcaro | Manoj_: ^^^ |
| 04:58.26 | microsys | but has not been running for a long time ;p |
| 04:59.51 | liable | maja: err, sorry |
| 04:59.58 | microsys | once more, what free (OSS) backup software would you recommend? Should be able to differ filetypes (images/documents/movies/configs(text)/etc), since only relevant files should be backuped, also sizerecognition would be fine |
| 05:00.10 | liable | microsys: my last comment was for you. |
| 05:00.14 | microsys | oh |
| 05:00.17 | microsys | err |
| 05:00.21 | microsys | *sigh* |
| 05:00.35 | maja | liable: i was just saying i can't google |
| 05:00.47 | skypa | down for you too? :) |
| 05:00.49 | liable | maja: oh. |
| 05:00.52 | Manoj_ | dondelelcaro, no profanity numbers there that I can see, offhand |
| 05:01.02 | sanxiyn | maja: Korea had Google downtime some days ago too. |
| 05:01.04 | Varanger | abrotman: grip+flac did what I wanted... |
| 05:01.09 | sanxiyn | maja: Continued for rougly 40 minutes. |
| 05:01.10 | gravity | grip++ |
| 05:01.31 | Varanger | abrotman: thanks! |
| 05:01.34 | TwistedEmotions | How do I see if icecast is working? What site do you manage it from? |
| 05:01.49 | microsys | the point using shellscript and find/tar/etc. i actually dismissed in first line. Would be fun, but isn't there a good "ready-to-go" one already? |
| 05:01.55 | maja | sanxiyn: thanks that should make my g/f happier |
| 05:02.20 | Wyzard | microsys: "apt-cache search backup" turns up a bunch of tools |
| 05:02.57 | microsys | yes i did this already, but i actually want some recommodations before installing a bunch of tools and A@#%"2! afterwards |
| 05:03.10 | xuniluser | HELP: Can WindowsXP boot in a slave or secondary HD? |
| 05:03.18 | sanxiyn | microsys: Haven't used any of them. I do rsync. |
| 05:03.24 | microsys | ok |
| 05:03.30 | TwistedEmotions | xuniluser: wrong room. |
| 05:03.37 | liable | a backup solution that suits you is a bit like picking a wm, it all depends what you want. |
| 05:03.40 | TwistedEmotions | xuniluser: and of course. |
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| 05:04.03 | Wyzard | xuniluser: In my experience, it gets confused if it's on a drive which isn't the one selected as the "boot drive" in the BIOS |
| 05:04.13 | yos87 | hi |
| 05:04.14 | Wyzard | xuniluser: (which isn't necessarily the IDE primary master) |
| 05:04.35 | liable | microsys: unless your content is really important and changing constantly, just running rsync whenevr you want is pretty effective. |
| 05:04.36 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone? Icecast? |
| 05:04.36 | Wyzard | xuniluser: but as I told you a few minutes ago, you can work around that using GRUB's "map" command |
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| 05:05.01 | gravity | topher! |
| 05:05.05 | deadcat | what the f. oo2 starts much faster now. must be that fucking kaffe pkg. |
| 05:05.08 | deadcat | what up TwistedEmotions (= |
| 05:05.10 | topher | uh oh! |
| 05:05.23 | gravity | topher: What's up? |
| 05:05.25 | topher | gravity: you'll be so happy to know im running debian |
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| 05:05.35 | gravity | topher: Awesome! You were running BSD before, right? |
| 05:05.39 | Skrotto | Hi. Is there a way to find out which porcess is using a given TCP-port? |
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| 05:05.53 | microsys | i will try with my shellscript and rsync for now (and may later), but i will bother you again if my content gets important ;) |
| 05:05.55 | liable | Skrotto: netstat -pantu |
| 05:05.58 | topher | gravity: yea, i still am, but i got a bunch of 400mhz ppcs so i put debian ppc on it and it runs flawlessly |
| 05:06.04 | topher | gravity: what's new with you? |
| 05:06.05 | gravity | topher: Very cool |
| 05:06.05 | JeffH | why is it I install the updated to clamAV and it already tells me it is out of date? |
| 05:06.16 | gravity | topher: Dude, just tons of Xorg stuff. I keep waiting for some new epiar stuff though :-) |
| 05:06.29 | deadcat | gravity: what up baby (= |
| 05:06.30 | topher | hey woah gravity |
| 05:06.32 | liable | !tell JeffH about volitile |
| 05:06.38 | liable | !tell JeffH about volatile |
| 05:06.38 | topher | gravity: i installed debian 3.x stable or whatev and it still had xfree86 |
| 05:06.38 | gravity | topher: I'm trying to get the modularized Xorg packaged and uploaded, and from there hopefully hacking on the X server itself |
| 05:06.45 | topher | gravity: xorg isnt considered stable? |
| 05:06.54 | topher | gravity: youll get your epiar when i get my auto-xorg |
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| 05:06.57 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 05:06.58 | tictac | deadcat: indeed it does. great. |
| 05:07.06 | xuniluser | Wyzard:what does map (hd0) (hd1) mean? |
| 05:07.09 | blockd | Skrotto: netstat -p |
| 05:07.14 | Skrotto | liable: Thanks. Seems "rcp.statd" is using 998. Is that something I need? |
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| 05:07.23 | gravity | topher: Yeah, the reason was that the guy who was maintaining XFree86 decided that he didn't want to disrupt the release process by moving to Xorg. Unfortunatley, the release took longer than expected, so we were stuck with out of date software |
| 05:07.25 | deadcat | tictac: oo2 right? last time it took me 5min to load the shit. i was so piss |
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| 05:07.44 | gravity | topher: I took on Xorg at the end of the release cycle so we could get it in to unstable and testing fast. |
| 05:07.58 | deadcat | tictac: has to be stupid kaffe that was fucking me up |
| 05:08.01 | gravity | topher: And actually, the auto-xorg was what I was going to work on after modularization. I want the thing to configure itself :-) |
| 05:08.04 | tictac | deadcat: yep. oo2 on sid. originally it takes a while to load, but once you close it and open it back its much faster. |
| 05:08.06 | sanxiyn | deadcat: ~20 seconds here. |
| 05:08.06 | gravity | topher: So you'll get it :-) |
| 05:08.19 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: Your cheating again dud ;P |
| 05:08.26 | tictac | less than 10 here. |
| 05:08.30 | blockd | Skrotto: are you running NFS to your knowledge? |
| 05:08.37 | topher | gravity: ah, so is xorg is pretty close to stable? |
| 05:08.39 | Skrotto | blockd: no. I use samba. |
| 05:08.43 | liable | Skrotto: no idea. |
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| 05:09.02 | gravity | topher: It's stable, but it won't go in to stable debian until the next release |
| 05:09.05 | deadcat | tictac: no. i closed and open again. took 5min AGAIN. now i removed kaffe and some other stuff on the ppc. its fast |
| 05:09.11 | gravity | topher: There's a backport to stable if you really want it though |
| 05:09.16 | deadcat | sanxiyn: now its ~ 20sec here too. |
| 05:09.21 | sanxiyn | deadcat: Oh, that's strange. |
| 05:09.35 | jollyr | i there a Network Storage apps on debian |
| 05:09.45 | sanxiyn | deadcat: So you suspect OOo is wasting time somewhere as a side effect of kaffe being present? |
| 05:09.45 | tictac | deadcat: really? weird. im on a old-gen p4 w/ gb ram. |
| 05:09.46 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: cheating on what? (=. by the way. i got a B on my first major essay hehehe. |
| 05:09.46 | Daveman | :P |
| 05:09.49 | Skrotto | blockd: I did /etc/init.d/nfs-common stop, that made it go away. But I still have port 111 (rpcbind) and 113 (auth) which I don't know if I need :> |
| 05:09.50 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: testing icecast now... |
| 05:09.55 | topher | gravity: hrm, id like to but the reason im in #debian (besides the rad peeps of course) is that i just enabled wpa-tsik on my router and i dont know the proper debian way to specify that now for my airport card |
| 05:09.56 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: is that good or bad? |
| 05:09.59 | deadcat | sanxiyn: very. i was so pissed |
| 05:09.59 | blockd | Skrotto: you don't need auth |
| 05:10.00 | topher | gravity: :-( |
| 05:10.05 | sanxiyn | deadcat: That certainly sounds like a bug. |
| 05:10.08 | Skrotto | blockd: How do I stop it? |
| 05:10.10 | deadcat | tictac: 800mhz with 382ram here |
| 05:10.18 | sanxiyn | deadcat: (I have kaffe installed here, by the way.) |
| 05:10.20 | tictac | java full version "kaffe-1.4.2" |
| 05:10.25 | Wyzard | topher: apt-cache show wpasupplicant |
| 05:10.26 | jollyr | something like Network attached Storage |
| 05:10.27 | gravity | topher: Hrm... I've never had to do that |
| 05:10.30 | blockd | Skrotto: it usually runs from inetd |
| 05:10.32 | tictac | me too. kaffe is installed. |
| 05:10.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i got pissed at icecast. fucking mp3 shits.. although i was trying to stream |
| 05:10.37 | starscalling | er |
| 05:10.50 | topher | jollyr: i read a little about that. i gotta get it on my computer first! |
| 05:10.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: the B is great. i would take a C but hey. B is better hehe |
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| 05:11.00 | starscalling | what do i do for nvidia drivers? i dont see nvidia-glx in the apt-cache |
| 05:11.09 | topher | gravity: yea it's alright. so how is it anyway though? is xorg still taking over your life? |
| 05:11.10 | Skrotto | blockd: Thanks. |
| 05:11.14 | deadcat | sanxiyn: ya. my x86 has kaffe too i think. normal speed. but the ppc was weirded on me |
| 05:11.23 | Wyzard | starscalling: It's in non-free |
| 05:11.25 | blockd | Skrotto: /etc/inetd.conf. You may just want to not run inetd unless you have a reason to. |
| 05:11.30 | jollyr | topher: thanks jsut buzz on the channel |
| 05:11.39 | gravity | topher: Pretty much :-) Life is pretty good. I've been really busy with school, just trying to get a paper out. How about you? How's the new school year going? |
| 05:11.45 | starscalling | Wyzard mind pointing me in the right direction sorry :/ |
| 05:11.48 | sanxiyn | deadcat: I think Kaffe doesn't have JIT on ppc. |
| 05:11.50 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: i am downloading hella defjam standup comedy right now (=.. HAHAHAH. |
| 05:11.55 | sidiot | if i want to configure my eth0 to automatically obtain a DHCP at start up i should vi /etc/network/interfaces and add "auto eth1" and "iface eth1 inet dhcp" right? |
| 05:11.57 | Skrotto | blockd: As far as I know, I don't. So I shut it down. Any idea where rpcbind is started from? |
| 05:11.59 | starscalling | ive opened my sources file /etc/apt/sources.list... |
| 05:12.04 | sanxiyn | deadcat: Probably OOo tries to load Java stuffs if JRE is present. |
| 05:12.08 | sidiot | oops...subsitute the 1s for 0s |
| 05:12.09 | deadcat | sanxiyn: oh. well maybe java related. |
| 05:12.12 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahah that shit is piiimp |
| 05:12.13 | Wyzard | starscalling: It's sort of like Ubuntu's "multiverse", if I understand Ubuntu's repository correctly |
| 05:12.17 | blockd | Skrotto: portmap probably |
| 05:12.17 | deadcat | sanxiyn: ya. |
| 05:12.17 | tictac | starscalling: add non-free next to main |
| 05:12.24 | Wyzard | starscalling: Add "contrib" and "non-free" next to "main" in your sources |
| 05:12.24 | topher | gravity: it's mixed man! i got a rad job doing net admin/web programming stuff on campus but school, ... meeh, studying's for the weak |
| 05:12.26 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. but the fucking speed is SLOW )= |
| 05:12.26 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: did you ever get icecast to work? |
| 05:12.28 | starscalling | o: awesome thanx |
| 05:12.29 | Daveman | heh, hey deadcat |
| 05:12.42 | Skrotto | blockd: Thanks again :) |
| 05:12.42 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: no i gave up. |
| 05:12.49 | tictac | what was the issue with icecast? |
| 05:12.52 | topher | gravity: and they use oracle at work! gross, huh? :) |
| 05:12.53 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: basterds... working on it now.. |
| 05:12.55 | deadcat | Daveman: ? dhath? (= |
| 05:12.57 | gravity | topher: Hehe, nice. I worked as a net admin in college for a year and a half too, which was a sweet deal. Are you still DJ'ing? |
| 05:13.00 | gravity | topher: Ew :-) |
| 05:13.11 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: but you are using icecast client right? |
| 05:13.17 | Daveman | haha |
| 05:13.23 | topher | gravity: yup, thurs from 1-2:30p, mp3 stream at http://169.237.101.52:8000/kdvs128 :) |
| 05:13.23 | deadcat | no shit (= |
| 05:13.31 | tictac | ive never gotten the original debian icecast package to work. i always had 'password issues' |
| 05:13.33 | starscalling | i assume that pinning a similar package would auto choose the lowest one? whether it be main/stable or whatnot? i e can i safely add testing or um fark that? |
| 05:13.34 | TwistedEmotions | tictac: I got icecast "working" but how to hell do I get it to start streaming music? |
| 05:13.37 | fbi | sidiot: i think you need 'loopback' in there too; man interfaces |
| 05:13.54 | sidiot | this line |
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| 05:13.55 | sidiot | # The loopback network interface |
| 05:13.55 | sidiot | auto lo |
| 05:13.55 | sidiot | iface lo inet loopback |
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| 05:13.57 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: cant you just use xmms or mplayer to stream music? |
| 05:13.57 | topher | gravity: hey, i need to "apt-get install wpasupplicant" on my offline debian box. how can i get the package file itself to move over the old fashion way? |
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| 05:14.09 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: i use xmms-liveice |
| 05:14.09 | TwistedEmotions | tictac: trying to steam whatever xmms is playing so I got that plugin from xmms and it shoumd be working ;P but ;P |
| 05:14.10 | sidiot | sorry |
| 05:14.14 | deadcat | topher: /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 05:14.16 | Wyzard | starscalling: If you want to add testing/unstable sources while running stable, add this line to /etc/apt/apt.conf: |
| 05:14.24 | Wyzard | starscalling: APT::Default-Release "stable"; |
| 05:14.24 | TwistedEmotions | tictac: already did that |
| 05:14.26 | sidiot | i thought it would paste it as one line not 4 |
| 05:14.29 | gravity | topher: Sure. Go to packages.debian.org/wpasupplicant and just download the deb. |
| 05:14.31 | deadcat | Daveman: what you doing here? |
| 05:14.43 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: im telling you. from what ive ran into i always had to compile icecast from src to get it working correctly. |
| 05:14.45 | sanxiyn | topher: You can do aptitude download <packagename>. |
| 05:14.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I GUESS. If you want to be logical about it... I didn't know they could |
| 05:15.04 | Daveman | deadcat, eh? |
| 05:15.06 | sanxiyn | topher: Or copying from APT cache. See deadcat's comment above. |
| 05:15.08 | liable | topher: packages.debian.org then dpkg -i it once you transfer it over |
| 05:15.17 | Daveman | hanging out? |
| 05:15.18 | deadcat | Daveman: who are you anyway? hathaway? |
| 05:15.22 | TwistedEmotions | tictac: it seems to be working.. I just dont understand how do get it to actually work. ;P |
| 05:15.26 | Daveman | :P |
| 05:15.33 | Daveman | haha, what? |
| 05:15.34 | Skrotto | Is there a way to ensure that SSH-user can not leave their $HOME? |
| 05:15.36 | deadcat | Daveman: yes or no? not :P (= |
| 05:15.38 | jamuraa | okay, I installed debian, recompiled the kernel (with some of the moduled options turned off) and when I boot, everything seems fine except that the keyboard doesn't work at all :( |
| 05:15.52 | Daveman | deadcat, no... :P |
| 05:16.01 | Wyzard | jamuraa: probably a mistake when configuring your custom kernel |
| 05:16.05 | topher | ah, i get it, thanks liable, sander, deadcat, gravity, haha, debian-ians are so friendly |
| 05:16.15 | deadcat | Daveman: ah. i thought you know me in real life. |
| 05:16.16 | Wyzard | jamuraa: Do you actually have a need for a custom kernel? |
| 05:16.17 | gravity | Wow, that's the first time I've heard us called friendly :-) |
| 05:16.35 | deadcat | Skrotto: chroot |
| 05:16.37 | sanxiyn | gravity: rarity indeed |
| 05:16.38 | tictac | haha |
| 05:16.43 | dondelelcaro | Skrotto: not sanely, no; in general there's no point. |
| 05:16.51 | Skrotto | okay |
| 05:16.55 | blockd | Skrotto: I think there might actually be something like that |
| 05:17.02 | tictac | gravity: he just hasnt been here long enough to witness the rage. |
| 05:17.05 | blockd | google pizzashack (maybe it's pizzashack.org)... |
| 05:17.12 | gravity | hehe |
| 05:17.20 | gravity | topher's tough. He can take it. |
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| 05:17.35 | blockd | Skrotto: http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/ |
| 05:17.39 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: did you get everything back to working condition on the pbook? |
| 05:17.39 | jamuraa | Wyzard: everything in the keyboard section of the custom kernel is turned on. |
| 05:17.53 | jamuraa | Wyzard: I need to compile modules for nvidia and for madwifi (network) |
| 05:17.53 | deadcat | blockd: rssh only do scp/sftp/rsync/cvs right? |
| 05:18.00 | Skrotto | blockd: okay :) |
| 05:18.10 | Daveman | deadcat, oh, heehee :P |
| 05:18.16 | blockd | probably, I haven't used it before. But it's should restrict them more than chroot. |
| 05:18.21 | Wyzard | jamuraa: You don't have to compile a whole custom kernel for that |
| 05:18.23 | jamuraa | Wyzard: also, I prefer to compile my own kernels so I know what's in them. I've been doing it for a while now |
| 05:18.29 | blockd | than just chrooting them |
| 05:18.50 | deadcat | Skrotto: ya. rssh dont do shell. only file transfering |
| 05:19.05 | Skrotto | deadcat: I noticed. :> |
| 05:19.20 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I just gave up.. gave him a ubuntu cd ;P |
| 05:19.25 | deadcat | HAHAHAH |
| 05:19.30 | blockd | sorry... it'd been a while since I looked at it. |
| 05:19.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ubuntu get the mouse to work? |
| 05:19.43 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: whatever man.. not like he cares.. |
| 05:19.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: external not internal |
| 05:19.56 | deadcat | Skrotto: try rbash, but rbash is useless if they know what they're doing |
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| 05:20.22 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: if I want to stream music to my room mate I can do it with xmms? without icecast? |
| 05:20.25 | jamuraa | Wyzard: I would, at some point, actually like to compile a kernel, but you're suggesting I take the kernel-*-source package; make-kpkg modules_image route? |
| 05:20.28 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ah. maybe if they have the 2.6.14 kernel, there MIGHT be a apple usb mouse in there. |
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| 05:20.46 | Skrotto | deadcat: I probably don't. It's not that important anyway. I can control most of the stuff with sane chmoding :) |
| 05:20.48 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh no. so thats what you want. |
| 05:20.48 | Dr_Fie | what is the anme of the package for the asterisk server? |
| 05:20.48 | Wyzard | jamuraa: yes |
| 05:20.58 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: no, you cant. you have to have some sort of streaming server. |
| 05:20.59 | Wyzard | jamuraa: nvidia-kernel-source for the nvidia driver |
| 05:21.08 | jamuraa | Wyzard: networking first :) |
| 05:21.09 | Daveman | yep |
| 05:21.09 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: thats what i wanted before and couldnt do. try gnump3d its webbased |
| 05:21.17 | Wyzard | jamuraa: madwifi doesn't seem to be in the archive, but I've heard there's an unofficial package available |
| 05:21.34 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: just nfs/samba share your music directory. he can mount and play them over the network. |
| 05:21.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you remember you login to my box last time and i showed you the thing? |
| 05:21.35 | Wyzard | jamuraa: Check apt-get.org and debian-unofficial.org for that |
| 05:21.36 | jamuraa | Wyzard: I've got the unofficial package around, thanks |
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| 05:22.04 | Dr_Fie | windows shares are teh sux |
| 05:22.04 | Wyzard | jamuraa: If you're running a precompiled kernel, get its corresponding -headers package |
| 05:22.13 | TwistedEmotions | tictac: thats smart as hell... |
| 05:22.18 | deadcat | hahaha |
| 05:22.22 | Dr_Fie | it wasn't designed to be used on a large network.. or be used with large amounts of traffic |
| 05:22.25 | jamuraa | Wyzard: here's hoping it made the first CD |
| 05:22.26 | tictac | lol |
| 05:22.27 | Wyzard | jamuraa: That provides the "source tree" (containing only the headers) from which you run make-kpkg to build modules for that kernel |
| 05:22.35 | TwistedEmotions | it is... easier then running stream server.. |
| 05:22.41 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: this way he doesnt have to listen ot the same exact song your listening to. |
| 05:22.54 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: you still remember the passwd on my machine? |
| 05:22.56 | Wyzard | jamuraa: Or try module-assistant, which automates the process... though I don't know if it works for unofficial things like madwifi |
| 05:23.00 | tictac | TwistedEmotions: glad to help. :) |
| 05:23.26 | jamuraa | Wyzard: I seem to remember using it before, but I don't know if it's available on the first CD either, so.. |
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| 05:23.41 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: no... gimme a few |
| 05:23.48 | fleudeurFlam | hello everyone |
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| 05:24.15 | Wyzard | jamuraa: If not, no big deal; download it from packages.debian.org and use a flash drive or CD-RW or something to transfer it over |
| 05:24.29 | fleudeurFlam | guys here knows how to replace my gdm?? |
| 05:24.45 | tictac | apt-get install xdm ? |
| 05:25.04 | reduz | Errr I'm getting - Failed to fetch http://ftp.(anysource).debian.org/debian/dists/testing/contrib/binary-i386/Packages.bz2 MD5Sum mismatch |
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| 05:25.05 | tictac | dont really know what you mean by 'replace' |
| 05:25.06 | reduz | Any clues? |
| 05:25.07 | fleudeurFlam | hmm, actually thats what im doing tictac |
| 05:25.12 | xbmodder | reduz, ouchy! |
| 05:25.15 | tictac | reduz: apt-get update |
| 05:25.16 | fleudeurFlam | but still aint working |
| 05:25.28 | reduz | tictac, xbmodder: yeah, when doing apt-get update |
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| 05:25.44 | tictac | hmm |
| 05:25.45 | fleudeurFlam | yea il try that..thnx |
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| 05:26.40 | fleudeurFlam | oops nothing happens |
| 05:26.43 | reduz | hmm still md5sum erors |
| 05:26.49 | reduz | now my debian is unusable |
| 05:26.54 | tictac | fleudeurFlam: dpkg --purge gdm |
| 05:27.10 | fleudeurFlam | ok tictac i will try that again |
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| 05:27.37 | tictac | reduz: you have tried diff mirrors you say? |
| 05:27.39 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: fuck. like those fucking seeders dont want me to get the defjam from them. now 0 seeders. damn fuckers |
| 05:27.51 | fleudeurFlam | dependency problems<--what it means? |
| 05:27.55 | tictac | deadcat: thats what you get. |
| 05:28.11 | deadcat | tictac: i just want to lol man. )= |
| 05:28.22 | reduz | tictac: yeah, tried us, ca, de, fr and es |
| 05:28.27 | reduz | tictac: all the same |
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| 05:28.40 | tictac | reduz: try diff servers altogether. |
| 05:29.08 | topher234 | :( i installed wpasupplicant but it looks like wpa_supplicant doesnt support the airport/orinoco/hermes driver |
| 05:29.19 | stew | reduz: d7ca6df0c9b38a40e335e441ee4e3858 Packages.bz2 <-- thats what i get from ftp.us.d.o |
| 05:29.27 | De_Mon | set theme=default |
| 05:29.50 | topher | anybody know why wpa_supplicant only supports about 6 drivers? |
| 05:29.55 | tictac | try ftp://mirrors.geeks.org/debian/ <dist> <options> |
| 05:30.07 | deadcat | topher: what driver you using? |
| 05:30.32 | topher | deadcat: debian loads the airport driver, which looks like it in turn uses the orinoco and hermes modules |
| 05:30.49 | reduz | stew: Same md5sum as you, but says it's mismatch |
| 05:30.52 | deadcat | topher: orinoco dont support wpa. only wep |
| 05:30.54 | starscalling | o: sarge is 2.4 kernel eh |
| 05:31.05 | dondelelcaro | topher: the airport driver is totally separate; but it won't support wpa... or at least, I couldn't get it to do so. |
| 05:31.10 | deadcat | topher: what card you have? you sure it supports it? |
| 05:31.20 | starscalling | is there any reason i shuldnt upgrade to the 2.6x kernel? |
| 05:31.30 | starscalling | *shouldn't |
| 05:31.35 | tictac | starscalling: cause 2.4 works ? |
| 05:31.38 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: card limitation. tahts why i have given up on airport and using usb now (= |
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| 05:31.47 | topher | ah |
| 05:31.52 | topher | this is an old imac |
| 05:31.58 | tictac | starscalling: you should be asking yourself 'are there any reasons to upgrade?' |
| 05:32.00 | topher | so the card just doesnt support wpa? |
| 05:32.06 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah, I don't use many network with wpa suppository. |
| 05:32.16 | tictac | topher: the old airport doesnt support wpa anyway. |
| 05:32.31 | tictac | topher: just wep. |
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| 05:32.45 | topher | tictac: i thought wpa was designed to be used on any card though, er, according to the wikipedia article. is it a hardware limitation or a driver limitation? |
| 05:32.47 | deadcat | ya. orinoco cards are crap now |
| 05:33.00 | deadcat | topher: read again. |
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| 05:33.13 | tictac | yea, what deadcat said. |
| 05:33.22 | topher | aww |
| 05:33.26 | topher | shucks |
| 05:33.27 | deadcat | wikipedia means people can edit the page? there for morons do edit those pages |
| 05:33.31 | topher | gravity: sorry to run off |
| 05:33.40 | stew | there for? |
| 05:33.47 | deadcat | therefor? |
| 05:33.51 | deadcat | ergos |
| 05:34.08 | fleudeurFlam | i dowloaded gdm 2.13.0.0 and place it on my desktop but then i type this command ./configure |
| 05:34.09 | fleudeurFlam | this is all i get checking for XML::Parser... configure: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool |
| 05:34.11 | deadcat | ergo |
| 05:34.14 | fleudeurFlam | is there somebody can help me solve this problem?? |
| 05:34.26 | tictac | although, i still prefer to go sniffing with my ibook 900 though. the range on those are the best ive seen. too bad the logic board fucks up every 2 or 3 months. luckily, apple still replaces it for free. |
| 05:34.35 | deadcat | Gliptic: just apt-get gdm |
| 05:34.47 | liable | fleudeurFlam: why the hell are you compiling it? |
| 05:35.01 | topher | hrm |
| 05:35.11 | deadcat | tictac: have you tried any usb card with prism2_usb? |
| 05:35.14 | Gliptic | deadcat, nah, I rather not ;) |
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| 05:35.24 | topher | i also have a powerbook that's maybe 2 months old. that airport driver, which i read is apparently just broadcom's latest offering, also isnt supported yet as far as i can tell |
| 05:35.33 | deadcat | Gliptic: what the (=. i was sure i typed F hehe |
| 05:35.45 | fleudeurFlam | liable: cause i made some modification one of the source on it |
| 05:35.50 | deadcat | topher: thats extreme card |
| 05:35.51 | tictac | deadcat: nope. i generally stay away from usb wifi cards, although im going to have to use one for the xbox soon. :| |
| 05:36.02 | topher | deadcat: yeah, is it true it's as of yet unsupported? |
| 05:36.17 | tictac | topher: the extreme have no open source drivers and most likely will never have. |
| 05:36.22 | deadcat | tictac: i am using zd1211 chipset. they are pretty good. b/g master mode will be in the future. |
| 05:36.28 | Hhhhh | question: I'm installing sarge in a hard drive that later I intend to move to a different computer (a much older one). Are there any settings in the first boot that might get screwed up after moving the Hd to the older computer? |
| 05:36.31 | topher | tictac: hence the petition i saw |
| 05:36.34 | topher | tictac: i guess |
| 05:36.45 | deadcat | topher: they are not supported under ppc. probably will never. |
| 05:36.48 | tictac | topher: one of the reasons i still have the ibook 900 because the new ibooks/powerbooks come with airport extreme and apple locked it down so you couldnt just swap in an old airport card. |
| 05:37.11 | topher | tictac: i could just buy a supported pcmcia wifi card though, right? |
| 05:37.20 | gravity | topher: No worries. I had to too. And I'm leaving in a little bit anyway. |
| 05:37.38 | neko_` | fleudeurFlam: apt-get install libxml-parser-perl |
| 05:37.47 | tictac | topher: of course, just dont expect the range to be all that great. |
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| 05:37.55 | microsys | running an apt-get install for eclipse-platform ends in a versionconflict of libgcj6, does this really trouble or is it trivial? |
| 05:38.00 | topher | gravity: the paper? |
| 05:38.00 | fleudeurFlam | neko: il try |
| 05:38.09 | tictac | deadcat: got a specific card i should try? |
| 05:38.10 | gravity | topher: Heh, no sleep. I'm nowhere near writing a paper yet. |
| 05:38.14 | gravity | Well, not so near |
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| 05:38.28 | topher | gravity: ah |
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| 05:39.01 | deadcat | tictac: i have a hawking usb and a crappy (design/material quality) airlink+, both are zd1211 |
| 05:39.04 | fleudeurFlam | neko: i dont have a package any suggestion where to look for it? |
| 05:39.25 | tictac | deadcat: model numbers would be awesome :P |
| 05:39.36 | Hhhhh | question: I'm installing sarge in a hard drive that later I intend to move to a different computer (a much older one). Are there any settings in the first boot that might get screwed up after moving the Hd to the older computer? |
| 05:39.37 | deadcat | tictac: let me get it |
| 05:39.50 | deadcat | tictac: http://zd1211.ath.cx/ |
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| 05:40.14 | deadcat | wpa as well |
| 05:40.14 | neko_` | fleudeurFlam: it's part of Debian stable, what are you running? |
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| 05:40.24 | sanxiyn | !info libxml-parser-perl |
| 05:40.28 | tictac | wpa is overrated. :) |
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| 05:40.29 | dpkg | libxml-parser-perl: (Perl module for parsing XML files), section perl, is optional. Version: 2.34-4 (sid), Packaged size: 285 kB, Installed size: 708 kB |
| 05:40.29 | akusarujin | er |
| 05:40.29 | topher | ill be around. good talking to you gravity if i dont see you again soon |
| 05:40.51 | stew | fleudeurFlam: apt-get build-dep gdm |
| 05:40.57 | fleudeurFlam | neko: im trying to compile my source gdm |
| 05:41.18 | sanxiyn | fleudeurFlam: Still, doing build-dep gdm is a good idea. |
| 05:41.33 | tictac | deadcat: thanks. |
| 05:41.47 | neko_` | i didn't know you needed perl xml to build gdm, weird... |
| 05:41.48 | Hhhhh | question: I'm installing sarge in a hard drive that later I intend to move to a different computer (a much older one). Are there any settings in the first boot that might get screwed up after moving the Hd to the older computer? |
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| 05:41.53 | microsys | actually not only libgcj6 but also libstc++6 is a tick to old too (4.0.2-2, should be 4.0.2-3) |
| 05:41.55 | fleudeurFlam | stew: asking must source like URI, what should i do? |
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| 05:42.11 | stew | fleudeurFlam: say what? |
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| 05:42.35 | stew | fleudeurFlam: what version of debian are you running? |
| 05:42.37 | tictac | deadcat: aww. no monitor mode (as of yet) |
| 05:42.42 | fleudeurFlam | resulted me this error after build-dep--->E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 05:42.53 | sanxiyn | fleudeurFlam: Of course you must. |
| 05:42.56 | microsys | deb-src missing |
| 05:43.09 | sanxiyn | fleudeurFlam: Edit /etc/apt/sources.list to include deb-src line. |
| 05:43.14 | stew | fleudeurFlam: edit sources.list, duplicate a "deb" line and make it "deb-src" |
| 05:43.16 | deadcat | tictac: ya. should be in the next release. see patch |
| 05:43.18 | zog-vsl | Any good OOo2 backports for sarge? |
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| 05:43.25 | stew | fleudeurFlam: then apt-get update ; apt-get build-dep gdm |
| 05:43.36 | golly | hey all, what's the command to update my locate database? |
| 05:43.40 | fleudeurFlam | thanks il do it now |
| 05:43.43 | sanxiyn | golly: updatedb |
| 05:43.47 | Hhhhh | updatedb |
| 05:43.55 | golly | sanxiyn: cheers |
| 05:44.13 | deadcat | tictac: i have tried orinoco_usb, prism2_usb, zd1211, but couldnt get the prism54_usb. but zd1211 is the easiest one i think |
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| 05:44.52 | fleudeurFlam | guys things are commented im a little bit lose... |
| 05:46.11 | tictac | hmm. |
| 05:47.00 | microsys | dpkg tell fleudeurFlam about deb-src |
| 05:47.02 | microsys | ;P |
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| 05:47.39 | microsys | your build-dep just needs you to provide a ressource |
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| 05:48.44 | sanxiyn | "DIAGNOSTICS: Diagnostics should be self-explanatory." HAHAHAHA |
| 05:48.50 | sanxiyn | (from some man page) |
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| 05:50.09 | wireddd | i'd rather write 10 lines of code than 1 line of documentation |
| 05:50.19 | microsys | since its pretty late here, one more question on the spot (i start getting memory leaks) - for i in `xxx 1 10`; do ...; done - xxx creates array 1 2 3 4 5 ...10, what was the command name again? |
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| 05:50.31 | blockd | seq? |
| 05:50.35 | microsys | ouch |
| 05:50.41 | microsys | yes |
| 05:50.44 | mne | it debian using some stackguard mechanism by default ? gdb shows me content "0x00000000 for all addresses |
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| 05:50.55 | mne | s/it/is |
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| 05:51.03 | chealer | hah, I just received a reply from the BTS 2 minutes after my submission. am I dreaming? |
| 05:51.17 | jbroome | yes |
| 05:51.18 | sanxiyn | chealer: Wow. |
| 05:51.22 | jbroome | you have a girlfriend now |
| 05:51.24 | jbroome | also |
| 05:51.56 | chealer | sanxiyn: perhaps you get subscribed to the gold contributors list after some time :) |
| 05:52.09 | sanxiyn | chealer: Bug number? |
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| 05:52.29 | chealer | sanxiyn: hum, why do you care... |
| 05:52.37 | microsys | more to the: "They-still-want-a-reply-list" |
| 05:52.55 | sanxiyn | To join gold contributor list... no. |
| 05:53.10 | chealer | sanxiyn: hehe |
| 05:54.28 | chealer | hey I have an opportunity to test it's really the BTS that's on drugs, I have to send a + patch for the first time :) |
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| 05:56.33 | microsys | err, why does udev collide hotplug now |
| 05:56.46 | dondelelcaro | because it replaces hotplug. |
| 05:56.56 | liable | microsys: read the changelog. |
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| 05:58.10 | reduz | udev now replaces hotplug?! |
| 05:58.13 | microsys | so, udev collides hotplug, devfsd collides udev, but is needed here - i really start getting trouble |
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| 05:58.31 | gravity | reduz: Yep. hotplug is on the way out. So it has been decreed. |
| 05:58.37 | reduz | i thought udev and hotplug were suppsoed to work together? |
| 05:58.39 | reduz | ooh |
| 05:58.42 | reduz | well in any case good to know |
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| 06:00.42 | chealer | gravity: is it about his comment on debian or what? |
| 06:00.54 | gravity | No, I don't much care about that |
| 06:01.29 | gravity | I know what he thinks there, and he's wrong |
| 06:01.47 | dondelelcaro | gregkh? |
| 06:01.55 | gravity | Yeah |
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| 06:02.38 | dondelelcaro | hrm... which comments? |
| 06:02.47 | sussudio | gravity: http://www.weebls-shop.co.uk/toys.asp?siteid=100&prodcatid=136 |
| 06:03.12 | microsys | apt-get install arts --> 138 to remove, 4 to upgrade - this is fun, running forced upgrade and hitting the 138 packets afterwards? |
| 06:03.40 | microsys | is there any "nicer" way? like apt-get just-upgrade |
| 06:04.25 | dondelelcaro | microsys: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 06:04.38 | microsys | upgrading to the newest packages hihi |
| 06:04.43 | chealer | dondelelcaro: I was reffering to http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-October/011300.html |
| 06:04.47 | microsys | right now i want to upgrade arts |
| 06:04.53 | dondelelcaro | microsys: so aptitude update; then run aptitude; and resolve whatever you're trying to install. |
| 06:04.53 | chealer | just a small part is about debian |
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| 06:05.10 | microsys | yeah, removing 138 packages |
| 06:05.16 | dondelelcaro | microsys: if it wants to remove that many packages, odds are you've tried to upgrade to a version that conflicts with a large part of your system. |
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| 06:05.44 | dondelelcaro | microsys: uh, running aptitude won't remove 138 packages. It'll open up the curses interface. The key word there is "resolve" |
| 06:06.09 | microsys | dist-upgrade just has 15 to remove *hide* |
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| 06:06.40 | Ryugi | hello |
| 06:06.48 | microsys | i actually try to "automatically" upgrade soon ... non-interactive |
| 06:07.01 | microsys | this will make things bit more complicated |
| 06:07.15 | microsys | or easier, differs on the point of view hihi |
| 06:07.43 | gravity | sussudio: Holy crap! I need! |
| 06:08.41 | sussudio | gravity: indeed |
| 06:11.35 | dondelelcaro | microsys: if you're using testing or unstable, attempting to forcibly upgrade when packages would be removed is insane at some stages; it's trivial to deal with, but it generally has to be dealt with manually. |
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| 06:12.47 | microsys | since apt actually returns 138 packages to be removed, aptitude --> 138 packages to be removed (745 mb freed) lol |
| 06:13.02 | microsys | i already started doubting |
| 06:13.27 | dondelelcaro | microsys: are you going to fire up aptitude and resolve the problem manually or continue to complain? The latter is getting old. |
| 06:13.54 | dondelelcaro | if you actually think there's a problem, then /msg dpkg bat; and follow the instructions. |
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| 06:15.35 | microsys | dondelelcaro, i fired aptitude, but not up, out of my shell ... running this now manually via apt myself |
| 06:15.47 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
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| 06:16.32 | microsys | i do not like the view of aptitude - too many colors, too many single clicks |
| 06:16.36 | microsys | to |
| 06:16.57 | microsys | but having t3+ actually makes installing pretty fast hihi |
| 06:17.09 | dondelelcaro | clicks? it doesn't involve a mouse... |
| 06:17.35 | microsys | ok, button hits |
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| 06:17.43 | dondelelcaro | it doesn't involve that either. |
| 06:17.49 | microsys | but it would work with mousgestures too i think ;P |
| 06:17.53 | microsys | it does here |
| 06:18.02 | dondelelcaro | it's a console program. It takes keyboard input. |
| 06:18.18 | microsys | like, hitting "i" for installing, and hitting "i" for about 138 packets |
| 06:18.23 | Metrics | it doesn't really have that many colours either. |
| 06:18.32 | microsys | my keyboard actually has buttons |
| 06:18.35 | dondelelcaro | uh... it's + to install... |
| 06:18.36 | microsys | or keys |
| 06:18.54 | Metrics | I don't like typing, it requires too many button pushes. |
| 06:19.05 | microsys | i did 2 min. ago, and i used "i", i think ;P |
| 06:19.18 | microsys | but its late at night, so ill fire it up again and check for you |
| 06:19.30 | dondelelcaro | i cycles through the information screens; it doesn't install packages. |
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| 06:20.25 | microsys | takes time to upgrade for now, so take your time |
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| 06:24.20 | microsys | i also wasn't used to dselect, not that i do not like gui s, which i often really don't like, just some are pretty nice, but the apt-UIs made apt more complicated imho |
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| 06:25.10 | Metrics | They're also very powerful, which makes tracking down deps really easy. |
| 06:26.15 | microsys | and right now i again recall the fact, connection speed isn't everything, upgrading this load of packets takes pretty long on older machines |
| 06:27.05 | dondelelcaro | microsys: *shrug*; you can still resolve everything using apt, you just have to know what you're doing. |
| 06:27.37 | dondelelcaro | microsys: if you're complaining about 138 packages being removed in #debian, that tends to indicate that you need help. |
| 06:27.44 | microsys | i hope i do, i hope everytime |
| 06:28.04 | dondelelcaro | if it was just random complaining to a receptive audience, kindly stop. |
| 06:28.13 | microsys | but debian has it advantages, most of the really dangerous things implement: Yes I want to do so |
| 06:28.24 | microsys | or something like that, it just happened twice |
| 06:28.32 | xbmodder | Where do you guys think is a good place to land *nix consultancy jobs on the web? |
| 06:28.59 | microsys | Once while removing all parts of perl in 2.2 and other time, hm, been long ago |
| 06:29.00 | dondelelcaro | *shrug*; if you're using testing or unstable, these things happen. |
| 06:29.28 | dondelelcaro | not really a big deal. there are unsatisfiable dependencies and conflicts that can remove half of your system all the time. |
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| 06:30.12 | dondelelcaro | the current classical one is with slib. |
| 06:30.42 | microsys | it worked for me until now pretty good, it may had some trouble with selfbuild debs, like apache (hell out of 2 unsleepy days and nights) |
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| 06:31.20 | microsys | i for sake never had to remove this one |
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| 06:32.05 | microsys | or install |
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| 06:32.22 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 06:33.00 | TwistedEmotions | Anyone know if there is a EXCEPT option? I mean something like rm * expect blah.blah |
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| 06:33.37 | microsys | but, ill be right back, the baker's smell actually reaches my office .. 07:33 AM, 12 minutes to first lesson .. still not been at home, the hunger wins |
| 06:33.45 | microsys | locks |
| 06:34.09 | TwistedEmotions | I'm guessing there is nothing like that? |
| 06:34.29 | TwistedEmotions | I cant use the '!' option? |
| 06:35.01 | nkuttler | TwistedEmotions: you could pipe find through grep -v for example |
| 06:35.06 | stew | TwistedEmotions: look up bash extended globbing |
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| 06:35.53 | TwistedEmotions | nkuttler: yeah I was thinking that.. ;( wondered if there was a easier way though.. |
| 06:35.56 | stew | TwistedEmotions: or what nkutler said, or find -not -name "*.porn" | xargs rm , or maybe add -maxdepth 1 to find |
| 06:36.00 | jm_ | TwistedEmotions: zsh has that |
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| 06:36.49 | TwistedEmotions | jm_: zsh? |
| 06:36.52 | roler | i'm trying to install curl on my php4 in debian. I am not having any luck. phpinfo does show that curl is enabled. can anyone help? |
| 06:37.21 | deadcat | what i missed? damn connection |
| 06:37.28 | deadcat | the icons and stuff in oo2 is huge. can i make them smaller? |
| 06:37.34 | kingsley | abrotman: Thanks for your feedback on the results of my profanity report. I found a bug in its regex processing. |
| 06:37.41 | sargee | hi people .. i want to write a program to display picture files .. i thought of using xli .. but seems it wont support pngs .. is any other better alternative |
| 06:38.00 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahah nothing important.. we discovered how do take down microsoft and kill bill gates. |
| 06:38.15 | deadcat | ok. not important (= |
| 06:38.19 | kingsley | sargee: Have you tried gqview? |
| 06:38.45 | sargee | kingsley : is it like xli working on the command line.. |
| 06:38.49 | TwistedEmotions | going to watch a movie ;) thanks for help... later all. |
| 06:38.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: damn. you have to enable your firewall. let me get in |
| 06:39.00 | sargee | kingsley : no i havent tried it |
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| 06:39.31 | kingsley | sargee: You can use it as "gqview <file.jpg>". |
| 06:39.38 | deadcat | yes |
| 06:39.48 | deadcat | or feh blah.jpg |
| 06:40.02 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: havent had time to work on wirewall file yet.. ;P I mean the NAT thing.. and unless nat works azueres is jackass... and plus I want to be able to ssh from outside ;) |
| 06:40.32 | microsys | re |
| 06:40.34 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ya. but your ports are all open right now. i am gonna set it up for you |
| 06:40.51 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I couldnt find those two lines you referred to.. |
| 06:40.56 | sargee | kingsley , deadcat : ill try it .. i might prefer more simple one cos im using a machine with low resources |
| 06:40.57 | deadcat | oh |
| 06:41.02 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I lub you ;) |
| 06:41.06 | deadcat | sargee: xview then |
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| 06:41.29 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hehe. ya. because its too dangerous right now for you. so many ports open |
| 06:41.49 | sargee | deadcat : thanx. . ill try that too thankx guys |
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| 06:42.52 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: are you using bittorrent right now? |
| 06:43.04 | deadcat | yes. nevermind |
| 06:43.09 | microsys | there are a lot ob people running around already ... its like this gonna be a normal day @ university with one exception sleeping in the office ;p |
| 06:43.32 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: azureus |
| 06:43.35 | deadcat | ya |
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| 06:45.43 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: are you using ashwall or ashwall.baqup ? |
| 06:45.56 | TwistedEmotions | ashwall |
| 06:46.01 | tcsetattr | I wonder what made that guy think xli doesn't support PNG... |
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| 06:47.42 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: DEFAULT_CLASS should be C for you since your network in 192.168 |
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| 06:48.03 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: errrr... no I have a static ip.. |
| 06:48.28 | deadcat | tahts your ath0, i am talking about your LAN |
| 06:48.42 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: my LAN is 192.168.1.* |
| 06:48.53 | deadcat | ya. so thats class C |
| 06:49.14 | TwistedEmotions | ohh.. well I didnt understand quite what was going on I guess.. |
| 06:49.53 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: whats port 500000? |
| 06:49.58 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ]well class c is 192.168.0.X not 192.168.1.X |
| 06:50.04 | microsys | muahaha, the flowvelocity at the entrance of the univercity is indirectly proportional to the time left til lesson-start - this is quite interessting with a panoramafront above ;P |
| 06:50.05 | TwistedEmotions | 50,000 is azureus |
| 06:50.10 | microsys | i should get some webcam *G* |
| 06:50.32 | ke6isf | Which package is apt-key located in? |
| 06:50.40 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: ah |
| 06:51.30 | liable | apt-utils? |
| 06:51.39 | microsys | apt-file says none ;P but i have it too |
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| 06:52.18 | deadcat | bittorrent uses 6881-6889 right? |
| 06:52.20 | deadcat | or more? |
| 06:52.33 | microsys | depends on your client, default is this range |
| 06:52.45 | jm_ | deadcat: you can configure your own port range |
| 06:52.54 | deadcat | jm_: oh |
| 06:52.59 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: whats the range you config to? |
| 06:53.00 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: you set your own.. I cant use those |
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| 06:53.24 | TwistedEmotions | 6881-6889 + 50000 |
| 06:53.28 | deadcat | k |
| 06:53.51 | microsys | TwistedEmotions, what your doing with ports 15536+? ;P |
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| 06:54.05 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: is bittorrent still running? |
| 06:54.14 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: yeah |
| 06:54.21 | deadcat | cool |
| 06:54.23 | deadcat | working now |
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| 06:54.33 | deadcat | see if your roomate can still go outside |
| 06:54.42 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: ;)thank you.. |
| 06:54.48 | ashridah | okay. what gives. i just rebooted after installing udev, and i got a mountain of output about files not being found. i'm pretty sure i've never made a change to udev/hotplug, so anyone know what's whacked out? |
| 06:54.55 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: I will check later.. |
| 06:55.14 | microsys | hihi |
| 06:55.17 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: class c is wrong ;( |
| 06:55.26 | microsys | udev hit hotplug, hotplug died |
| 06:55.30 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: oh |
| 06:55.32 | TwistedEmotions | 192.168.1.X not 192.168.0.X |
| 06:55.34 | liable | ashridah: hotplug is replaced by udev |
| 06:55.36 | deadcat | k |
| 06:55.58 | ashridah | liable: i know that |
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| 06:56.05 | microsys | should run fine anyway |
| 06:56.10 | jm_ | hmm too bad p.d.o. doesn't show all the fields |
| 06:56.14 | microsys | your able to boot ashridah ? |
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| 06:56.33 | ashridah | i didn't mean to accidentally imply i had both :) |
| 06:57.02 | microsys | ke6isf, apt-key is provided via package apt itself |
| 06:57.04 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: if you installed a new version of udev, you may have not purged hotplug. |
| 06:57.09 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: you'll probably need to do that. |
| 06:57.14 | jm_ | Added conflicts with hotplug - from changelog, must remember to remove hotplug before ever upgrading to Etch |
| 06:57.36 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: dammit my email is on the firewall script. now you finally know my email (=. |
| 06:57.48 | ashridah | dondelelcaro: this is the udev upgrade from a few days ago, i'd gotten rid of hotplug weeks ago |
| 06:58.02 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahhaa... wait till I get my spam bot working ;) |
| 06:58.10 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: and you've rebooted since then? |
| 06:58.33 | microsys | dondelelcaro, your right, i actually selected via "+", but this does not make it less work, just another key to hit ;P |
| 06:58.43 | ashridah | i've rebooted many times since i removed hotplug. hell, this particular system hasn't been installed long enough for it to have used unstables' hotplug package :) |
| 06:59.02 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: ah, ok... what files was it complaining about? |
| 06:59.13 | deadcat | TwistedEmotions: hahah. remember that weird email? i was using a tool called rot13 which rotates the chars by 13 characters |
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| 07:00.11 | dondelelcaro | microsys: the key point with aptitude is that you can exert control over which solutions are picked by libapt far more easily; with apt-get you have to specify them manually on the command line, which can become quite arduous. |
| 07:00.16 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: hahahah |
| 07:00.17 | ashridah | i don';t know, the damned things scrolled off the buffer (and then X started anyway, making trying to check academic) |
| 07:00.23 | ashridah | like i say, the system appears to have booted fine |
| 07:00.35 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: did you see at which point those messages came up? |
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| 07:00.49 | ashridah | aha, /var/log/daemon has a copy |
| 07:00.50 | ke6isf | microsys: Oddly, it doesn't seem to be there, and apt-file search apt-key turns up nothing. Is this something that even exists in Sarge? |
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| 07:01.00 | litage | at the end of burning a dvd with growisofs, this error occurred: ":-[ CLOSE SESSION failed with SK=2h/ASC=04h/ACQ=07h]: Resource temporarily unavailable". when i try to mount the dvd, the following happens. how can i prevent this?: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, missing codepage or other error" |
| 07:01.12 | dondelelcaro | ke6isf: it's only in etch and sid. |
| 07:01.12 | microsys | ke6isf, run apt-file update |
| 07:01.15 | liable | keikoz: no |
| 07:01.16 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | goodmorning to those who are close to my timezone (GMT +2) |
| 07:01.21 | dondelelcaro | !+find apt-key sarge |
| 07:01.23 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 07:01.28 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: Ah, OK, that explains it. Thanks. |
| 07:01.31 | microsys | or better listen to dondelelcaro ;P |
| 07:01.47 | deadcat | this iptables rule look ok? iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -s 0/0 -d 0/0 --dport 6881:6889 -j ACCEPT |
| 07:02.00 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | Q. what's a 'Device URI' when someone tries to install a printer through cupsys? |
| 07:02.01 | microsys | good morning mUNoFiRaTT[GR] (GMT+1) |
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| 07:02.16 | ashridah | starts with udev_run_hotplugd[4077]: add_matching_files: unable to open '/etc/hotplug.d/printer': No such file or directory, has a bunch of other files in /etc/hotplug and /etc/dev.d and that's it |
| 07:02.24 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: yeah, dpkg --purge hotplug; |
| 07:02.42 | starscalling | er ok |
| 07:03.06 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: or at least, that's most likely the problem. |
| 07:03.09 | stew | deadcat: sure, but the -s and -d options are doing nothing for you and you could dropt them |
| 07:03.12 | ashridah | dondelelcaro: that's *not* installed,. it doesn't need purging |
| 07:03.15 | microsys | i really get afraid of the next boot, while listening to ashridah .. i just replaced hotplub/udev |
| 07:03.17 | ashridah | i purged it ages ago |
| 07:03.18 | starscalling | dondelelcaro i have no sound [just installed sarge] and i _am_ in the audio group.. what can i do to play things? |
| 07:03.22 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: dpkg -l hotplug; |
| 07:03.34 | ashridah | $ dpkg -l |grep hotplug |
| 07:03.37 | ashridah | hi udev 0.074-1 /dev/ and hotplug management daemon |
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| 07:03.46 | deadcat | stew: ah. but its opening up 6881-6889 right? |
| 07:03.47 | ashridah | hrm. what's "hi" as a status. weird |
| 07:03.53 | ashridah | aah, hold. |
| 07:03.54 | stew | deadcat: yes |
| 07:03.55 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: that means you've held it |
| 07:03.58 | ashridah | hrm, when did i put that on hold? |
| 07:04.01 | deadcat | stew: excellente |
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| 07:04.41 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: probably recently, because 0.074-1 isn't that old... |
| 07:04.58 | ashridah | i know, i installed it yesterday. |
| 07:05.00 | stew | deadcat: for the INPUT chain at least |
| 07:05.36 | ashridah | i still don't recall when i put udev on hold, i haven't put anything on hold in this system so far as i know. |
| 07:05.50 | dondelelcaro | are you using apt-listbugs or something? |
| 07:06.17 | deadcat | stew: good enough. everything is allowed going out |
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| 07:06.48 | microsys | didn't he mentioned ssh too? *hide* |
| 07:06.57 | ashridah | dondelelcaro: no, but i might have had that installed at one point, it's in /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 07:07.00 | ashridah | i think i removed it tho |
| 07:07.36 | ashridah | microsys: for what it's worth, btw, my system booted fine, so clearly these files aren't necessary in anyway. it's just noisy for no reason i can work out yet :) |
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| 07:08.35 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: it largely depends on how printer is connected ... |
| 07:08.54 | stew | !info udev sid |
| 07:09.00 | dpkg | udev: (/dev/ and hotplug management daemon), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.074-2 (sid), Packaged size: 293 kB, Installed size: 980 kB |
| 07:09.14 | ottoaim | would it be a bad idea to run unstable on ppc? |
| 07:09.20 | stew | oh, hmm pdo is out of date |
| 07:09.23 | deadcat | ottoaim: no |
| 07:09.28 | microsys | since you just mentioned there was an installation of hotplug, there may be modified initscripts left? |
| 07:09.32 | dondelelcaro | ottoaim: there's no difference between ppc and any other architectures... |
| 07:09.34 | deadcat | ottoaim: but if you ask. then you shouldnt |
| 07:09.39 | dondelelcaro | microsys: if it's been purged, they should have been deleted. |
| 07:09.44 | dondelelcaro | (unless custom ones were added) |
| 07:09.58 | microsys | thats why "modified" |
| 07:09.59 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: the printer is connected directly somewhere else in the network - not a box - but on the network (it has an ethernet). I run nmap on it's IP and saw it utilizes jetdirect... |
| 07:10.03 | ottoaim | my roommate was mentioning something about things being horribly broken currently |
| 07:10.17 | deadcat | ottoaim: your rommate's a bitch |
| 07:10.18 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: ahh use socket then |
| 07:10.18 | ashridah | there are a few packages that have left files in /etc/hotplug |
| 07:10.20 | dondelelcaro | ottoaim: it's unstable. If brokenness bothers you, you shouldn't run it... |
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| 07:10.27 | ashridah | but /etc/dev.d is a new one on me |
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| 07:10.30 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: hrm... well, they may be the cause of the problem. |
| 07:10.55 | ottoaim | deadcat: haha |
| 07:11.00 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: something like --> socket://myip:myport ? |
| 07:11.23 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: indeed |
| 07:11.32 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: myport is 9100 for jetdirect |
| 07:11.51 | ashridah | dondelelcaro: it doesn't seem like they should, none of the error messages seem to be about them |
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| 07:12.10 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: try greping through /etc for printer et al. |
| 07:12.16 | chealer | !testing security issues |
| 07:12.17 | dpkg | Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ ;) |
| 07:12.23 | tarzeau | someone built the unichrome via xfree video drivers? isn't there a debian package? |
| 07:12.30 | chealer | dpkg: no, testing security issues is at http://spohr.debian.org/~joeyh/testing-security.html |
| 07:12.30 | dpkg | okay, chealer |
| 07:12.32 | dondelelcaro | ashridah: find /etc -type f -print0 |xargs -0 grep printer; FE may be illuminating. |
| 07:13.08 | dondelelcaro | or a run-parts on the hotplug directory... |
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| 07:14.19 | ashridah | appart from udev, xprint, cups and openoffice, there's really not that much that fits. |
| 07:14.29 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:14.29 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 07:14.58 | ashridah | that said, there's yet another udev package now. looks like i'm a day out |
| 07:15.34 | deadcat | hmm. i have a bunch of files like this: VIDEO_TS.IFO VTS_02_0.IFO VTS_04_0.IFO VTS_06_0.IFO VTS_08_0.IFO in a dir. what do i do with them? they are allegedly to be DVD stuff |
| 07:16.16 | chealer | deadcat: no .VOB ? |
| 07:16.35 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: I did and even using the port you specified will still won't work - the printer is an EPSON EPL-N2700 but there is no driver in either the linuxprinting.org database nor in the cupsys database and so I selected the EPL-N2750 model from the cupsys list with is said to feature the driver eplaser. The protocol selected is AppSocket/JetDirect... still will not work though |
| 07:16.46 | deadcat | chealer: yes. all those. i just dont want to ls the output here |
| 07:16.59 | ashridah | heh. figures. "* Added patch err_reporting to make the udev_run_* helpers more quiet." |
| 07:16.59 | deadcat | chealer: how do i put them back to dvd format.? |
| 07:17.09 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: isn't that PCl compatible? |
| 07:17.23 | chealer | deadcat: I don't know what you mean by DVD format |
| 07:17.49 | deadcat | chealer: dvd cd. i want to put them into a dvd cd so i can play on a dvd player |
| 07:18.16 | chealer | hehe I never did a video CD neither |
| 07:18.25 | deadcat | doh. |
| 07:18.30 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: I never worked with this printer, only with HP and Samsung printers that both use JetDirect and it works flawlessly |
| 07:18.30 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: let's suppose it is - what should I try? |
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| 07:19.20 | deadcat | chealer: i have some stand up comedy but those morons have them in those format. i was hoping just .avi or .mpg |
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| 07:20.04 | kneet | deadcat, that format is straight from dvd - stick em in a VIDEO_TS directory and dvd player on a pc should be able to play it directly. However - dvd cd I've not heard of |
| 07:20.27 | deadcat | kneet: pc? |
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| 07:21.03 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: I would print to a file (make sure this creates valid PCL file), then dump it to the printer on port 9100 |
| 07:21.04 | kneet | Well - I guess you're running linux on at least one pc :) |
| 07:21.33 | kneet | ifo files are info, bup files are backup and vob files contain the actual movie data |
| 07:21.33 | deadcat | kneet: so you're saying i can play it with mplayer? |
| 07:21.34 | AwayNo | hi |
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| 07:21.58 | deadcat | or xine? |
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| 07:22.32 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: would you please be more specific... how can I print to a file? and how can I dump it in the printer port? |
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| 07:22.33 | kneet | Not got mplayer myself - but - it should work. A dvd has two directories - AUDIO_TS and VIDEO_TS. AUDIO_TS you can ignore for now. But - stick all the files in a directory VIDEO_TS and most media apps (that understand dvd) should be able to play it |
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| 07:23.04 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: 1) ehh? applicaitons have print to a file option usually 2) use nc |
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| 07:23.10 | deadcat | kneet: so how would i use mplayer or xine to play it? |
| 07:23.21 | SimonRaven | anyone got a an idea if a tool that splits diffs up at their respective header lines? (i.e., --- openldap2.3-2.3.7.orig/README \n --- openldap2.3-2.3.7/README lines) |
| 07:23.30 | SimonRaven | er, if it exists |
| 07:23.50 | SimonRaven | er, that second -- s/--/++/ |
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| 07:24.26 | kneet | deadcat - mplayer man page - search for -dvd-device option |
| 07:24.35 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: I will look to it =) |
| 07:24.38 | tcsetattr | SimonRaven: splitdiff from the patchutils package? |
| 07:24.42 | deadcat | kneet: ya. it will look for a device. not a directory |
| 07:24.52 | kneet | Quote "You can also specify a directory that contains files previously copied directly from a DVD" it says here |
| 07:24.58 | SimonRaven | tcsetattr: thank thank you thank thank you |
| 07:25.02 | deadcat | kneet: oh |
| 07:25.05 | jm_ | SimonRaven: patchutils has some handy tools |
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| 07:25.22 | SimonRaven | i knew there was a reason i installed that :) |
| 07:25.44 | jm_ | I installed it lately when one of the package depended on it and found some useful tools in it |
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| 07:25.59 | SimonRaven | i should check it out more deeply |
| 07:26.06 | deadcat | kneet: nope. i dont know how mplayer options work. |
| 07:26.58 | kneet | deadcat, I'm not actually an mplayer user (or xine for that matter - this is my work box) - so all I did was browse the man page. However - does gmplayer give you any way of browsing there? |
| 07:27.41 | deadcat | kneet: mplayer is commandline. and the options is fucked up |
| 07:27.48 | jm_ | dedac;it's pretty simple and mentioned in the man page: mplayer dvd://1 |
| 07:27.59 | jm_ | read EXAMPLES OF MPLAYER USAGE |
| 07:28.15 | kneet | jm_, he wants to play a set of dvd files already copied to local disk |
| 07:28.22 | deadcat | jm_: mplayer dvd://1 -dvd-device $PWD just Endo of file |
| 07:28.36 | jm_ | ohh so much for me reading his question :P |
| 07:28.42 | deadcat | hehe |
| 07:28.54 | kneet | deadcat, gmplayer is the gui frontend for mplayer - it may give some option somewhere? |
| 07:29.49 | deadcat | kneet: i doubt it |
| 07:29.51 | jm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:29.51 | jm_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:30.00 | kneet | Argh. How to google search for a term that starts "-" google thinks I mean remove the word |
| 07:30.11 | jm_ | "-foo" doesn't work? |
| 07:30.22 | kneet | Didn't seem to - will try again |
| 07:30.41 | SimonRaven | some nice-looking utils in there |
| 07:31.36 | deadcat | jm_: doesnt work |
| 07:31.59 | deadcat | libdvdread: Couldn't find device name. |
| 07:31.59 | jm_ | deadcat: even mplayer file.vob works |
| 07:32.07 | kneet | I have no idea if mplayer when you set path to disk expects to find the files directly - or expects to find a VIDEO_TS directory - so you might try the parent directory ? |
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| 07:32.47 | tetra | hi |
| 07:32.54 | kneet | I mean - if it expects to find a "dvd root" then the dir you point it to should have the VIDEO_TS dir in it (since that is the structure on a real DVD). |
| 07:33.13 | tetra | how to configure global address book in debian |
| 07:33.27 | tetra | Need help |
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| 07:34.42 | kneet | What do you mean by a global address book - ldap or? |
| 07:34.42 | tetra | Hello |
| 07:34.49 | tetra | yaa like ldap |
| 07:34.58 | tetra | i tried ldap in debian |
| 07:35.02 | tetra | but fail |
| 07:35.12 | jm_ | :) |
| 07:35.19 | jm_ | !tell tetra -about enter |
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| 07:35.20 | kneet | Sounds like most ldap installs to me ;) |
| 07:36.10 | tetra | any debian package |
| 07:36.25 | jm_ | openldap is packaged, but LDAP is not trivial to setup |
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| 07:36.45 | deadcat | ok works. |
| 07:36.48 | deadcat | *.VOB works |
| 07:36.52 | fireba11 | jm_ also as far as i can tell documentation is pretty weak for it |
| 07:36.59 | kneet | deadcat, at least you can play it now :) |
| 07:37.03 | deadcat | (= |
| 07:37.05 | deadcat | thanks |
| 07:37.10 | deadcat | defjam comedy HAHAHA allstar |
| 07:37.11 | starscalling | ok ive followed what dpkg said about sound and /dev/dsp but its not worked yet. i did the ./MAKEDEV audio .. rebooted but when i try to open even a mixer it says "Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found" but i have a soundblaster 2 which was detected in lspci i think it is.. how can i get sarge to recognize my sound card ? |
| 07:37.17 | kneet | openldap is OK - but I ended up having to go out for a printed book |
| 07:37.28 | jm_ | fireba11: I didn't have so much trouble getting it to run, but you need to understand the concept, otherwise you won't get far |
| 07:37.35 | jm_ | yeah, you'll need some good book |
| 07:38.01 | jm_ | starscalling: /dev/dsp is for OSS, maybe you have ALSA modules loaded |
| 07:38.11 | starscalling | and i noticed that in /dev/dsp soundcore and emu10k1-gp are both used == 0 |
| 07:38.16 | fireba11 | jm_ i meant like a step-by-step tutorial or something taht gets you started :-) |
| 07:38.32 | starscalling | jm_ i installed alsa but how can i tell if either are loaded? |
| 07:38.36 | jm_ | fireba11: hard to write that with so many different needs for LDAP |
| 07:38.41 | SimonRaven | why did you reboot? |
| 07:38.46 | fireba11 | true |
| 07:38.50 | starscalling | ive tried mp3's and avi's to test my sound |
| 07:38.51 | jm_ | starscalling: lsmod, cat/proc/modules -- emu10k1-gp is not an ALSA module |
| 07:39.01 | starscalling | ok let me do that |
| 07:39.40 | jm_ | looks like we have GrandPrix sound cards too nowadays |
| 07:39.50 | Rawplayer | re |
| 07:39.54 | starscalling | i get the same output for both jm_ |
| 07:40.04 | jm_ | starscalling: yes, that's normal ;) |
| 07:40.23 | starscalling | lol ok.. im lost then sorry :P |
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| 07:40.48 | jm_ | are you using 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 07:40.59 | starscalling | 2.4 |
| 07:41.14 | jm_ | ok that explains lack of ALSA modules - did you run mixer app as root or as user? |
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| 07:41.58 | starscalling | as user.. and alsa conf said it couldnt find anything |
| 07:42.05 | starscalling | *alsaconf |
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| 07:42.32 | jm_ | don't bother with anything alsa for now -- is your user member of audio group? |
| 07:42.39 | starscalling | yessir! |
| 07:42.39 | bbeta | how can i install new version of xchat on knoppix 3.7? |
| 07:43.09 | widrone | !tell bbeta about knoppix |
| 07:43.10 | jm_ | bbeta: try #knoppix |
| 07:43.11 | wam | Hi! I have 4 primary partitions on a server. The fourth is a PV from LVM. Now I need more space on the LG, which means I'd have to resize the PV _or_ move the fourth partition into a logical instead of a primary (sda4->sda5). Is this possible somehow? |
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| 07:43.45 | bbeta | thanks |
| 07:43.53 | nekostar | ah here i am |
| 07:43.55 | jm_ | starscalling: which mixer app have you used? |
| 07:43.56 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 07:43.56 | dpkg | well, qotd89 is <legba7> How do i find out what makes my woody beep and do not stop to beep till i create another beep. |
| 07:43.59 | nekostar | on the soundless system |
| 07:44.26 | nekostar | gnome-volume-control |
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| 07:45.12 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | jm_: there is a little progress =D however the printer is sent on paper size MON and not on A4 while it is set to be A4... |
| 07:45.25 | nekostar | i tried gnome-volume-control jm_ sorry this is starscalling too :P what else should i try? |
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| 07:46.05 | jm_ | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: you can configure this in CUPS preferences |
| 07:46.13 | jm_ | nekostar: tried something simpler, like cam or aumix? |
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| 07:46.56 | nekostar | seems neither are installed.. let me do so then |
| 07:47.01 | SimonRaven | wow, there's some neat shit in there |
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| 07:49.27 | nekostar | Error opening /dev/mixer. : you probably don't have an audiocard that supports a mixerdebian: <<--- my error from running cam.. |
| 07:50.02 | jm_ | hmm, do you have /dev/mixer* device files? |
| 07:50.32 | SimonRaven | check out the man page for espdiff |
| 07:50.33 | genocide | hi, where did the linux-iscsi package go ? |
| 07:50.34 | tcsetattr | check /proc/devices to see if sound is in there. |
| 07:50.34 | nekostar | mixer mixer0 mixer1 mixer2 mixer3 <<--- thats in /dev/ |
| 07:51.12 | jm_ | SimonRaven: --deep-brainwave-mode :) |
| 07:51.18 | SimonRaven | yeh :) |
| 07:51.22 | genocide | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/10/msg00539.html .. or is that just a request ? |
| 07:51.37 | tcsetattr | espdiff(1) pissed me off. I thought it was a clever way of documenting something whose heuristics were too complex to be worth documenting. |
| 07:51.48 | tarzeau | genocide: itp means, he intents to package it |
| 07:51.52 | nekostar | 0000:00:09.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Audigy (rev 04) <<--- thats my sound card lol its the audigy 2 |
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| 07:52.30 | jm_ | that's lspci output, check if sound is listed in /proc/devices - but I suppose it is with emu10k1-gp module loaded |
| 07:52.34 | genocide | mkay.. thanks tarzeau ... :\ |
| 07:52.36 | nekostar | yes tcsetattr sound was in there |
| 07:52.55 | tarzeau | genocide: you could write him an email and ask if you can help testing the package before it goes into debian |
| 07:53.10 | genocide | good idea :) |
| 07:53.15 | SimonRaven | goldamn, interdiff :) |
| 07:53.17 | genocide | will do so.. thank you swiss fellowmen ! :P |
| 07:53.19 | jm_ | hmm gp stands for gamepoer |
| 07:53.24 | jm_ | gameport even |
| 07:53.26 | tarzeau | genocide: i'm not swiss. yet |
| 07:53.30 | nekostar | its listed as character device14 if that matters |
| 07:54.14 | jm_ | too bad I removed 2.4.28 from my system yesterday, can't check which module supports Audigy 2 |
| 07:54.21 | nekostar | lol |
| 07:54.38 | nekostar | i dont mind just upgrading the kernel if that will help... to the 2.6.x |
| 07:54.49 | nekostar | thats what i was running in the last distro.. |
| 07:55.01 | jm_ | which Audigy 2 model is it? |
| 07:55.25 | nekostar | soundblaster 2 um... just the lowest one.. just the card and nothing else? |
| 07:55.52 | jm_ | give me PCI ID for it |
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| 07:57.47 | nekostar | i'm not sure what the id is but i can put lspci -v for that in #flood if you prefer? |
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| 07:57.57 | jm_ | no, lspci -n|grep '0000:00:09.0' |
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| 07:59.15 | nekostar | 0000:00:09.0 0401: 1102:0004 (rev 04) and looking it up its now know by audigy as Audigy 2 Value |
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| 08:00.05 | jm_ | yeah ALSA supports it |
| 08:00.11 | nekostar | o yeah sure does lol |
| 08:00.12 | midg3t | which package do i need to install to get the build directory in /lib/modules/$(uname -r) ? |
| 08:00.39 | nekostar | as does oss if i recall correctly... but um.. meh.. i should just upgrade to the 2.6 kernel and get it overwith huh :P |
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| 08:01.01 | achaoge | midg3t, kernel-headers |
| 08:01.09 | midg3t | cheers |
| 08:01.27 | dondelelcaro | midg3t:i it's just a symlink, you don't really need it. |
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| 08:02.10 | jm_ | yeah emu10k1 has 0004 listed too, but I am looking at 2.6 |
| 08:02.20 | jm_ | did you try loading emu10k1 module? |
| 08:02.26 | nekostar | er |
| 08:02.46 | nekostar | probably not >_< how do i do that ... sorry for the endless n00b questions.. and thanx for the help :) |
| 08:03.44 | midg3t | dondelelcaro: symlink to where? i cleaned out /lib/modules/$(uname -r) and no longer have the symlink |
| 08:03.54 | midg3t | though i need it to build an out-of-tree module |
| 08:04.10 | jm_ | nekostar: use modprobe |
| 08:04.49 | dondelelcaro | midg3t: you don't need it; just install the appropriate headers package, and set the appropriate INCLUDE directive in the makefile to the right path. |
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| 08:04.57 | achaoge | midg3t, /lib/modules/2.6.14-1-k7/build -> /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.14-1-k7 |
| 08:05.04 | midg3t | cheers |
| 08:05.21 | nekostar | interesting..... |
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| 08:05.29 | Kovecses | 2.6.14 doesnt like the ati driver |
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| 08:06.31 | nekostar | that gave me some new errors and a hint: insmod errors can be caused by incorrect module parameters, including invalid IO or IRQ parameters. as well as a couple lines about how it failed to load :P |
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| 08:06.55 | nekostar | its irq 18 i believe... i saw something earlier and a few other things were on the same one.... |
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| 08:07.01 | Thor- | how do I invoke su -s /bin/bash -c "/usr/sbin/logcheck [options]" logcheck from cron.d? can't use su in crontab |
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| 08:08.00 | dondelelcaro | Thor-: you don't; cron.d follows the /etc/crontab format. Specify the user you want to run as, and the shell will normally be bash |
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| 08:08.07 | Kovecses | !java-package |
| 08:08.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i ... |
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| 08:08.28 | Kovecses | java-package is not in sid? |
| 08:08.50 | dondelelcaro | Kovecses: it's in contrib. |
| 08:08.57 | ottoaim | anyone have debian on an apple powerbook? I'm having issues with it seeing my battery. It's also not scaling the cpu freq |
| 08:08.58 | Kovecses | nope |
| 08:09.06 | dondelelcaro | !+info java-package |
| 08:09.08 | dpkg | java-package: (utility for building Java(TM) 2 related Debian packages), section contrib/misc, is optional. Version: 0.26 (sid), Packaged size: 20 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 08:09.11 | jm_ | Kovecses: yes it is |
| 08:09.16 | dondelelcaro | Kovecses: care to try again? |
| 08:09.36 | dondelelcaro | Kovecses: you probably don't have contrib in your sources.list. Add it, and apt-get update; and be enlightened. |
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| 08:09.49 | Kovecses | hrm |
| 08:09.50 | nekostar | tell ya what jm_ what do i need to do to just upgrade the kernel? |
| 08:09.55 | lucasjb | Hi all. I'm trying to install an Adaptec 2410SA RAID controller into my Sarge box (kernel 2.6.8-1). The system automatically loads the aacraid driver and allocates /dev/sdb to the array, kernel logs show the type and size of the array correctly, but fdisk is "Unable to open /dev/sdb". I'm not sure how to proceed. Anyone? |
| 08:09.57 | Kovecses | i have it in there |
| 08:10.00 | dondelelcaro | nekostar: just apt-get install a new kernel. |
| 08:10.01 | Kovecses | and did apt-get update |
| 08:10.05 | jm_ | nekostar: install it, reboot |
| 08:10.18 | Kovecses | go into #flood if you want to see my sources.list |
| 08:10.28 | dondelelcaro | Kovecses: I'm already there, actually... |
| 08:10.38 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: hrm... can you paste the relevant dmesg output? |
| 08:10.47 | nekostar | just get image and headers then eh |
| 08:10.49 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, certainly, sec... |
| 08:10.51 | Thor- | dondelelcaro: if I just run logcheck with "test -x /usr/sbin/logcheck && nice -n10 /usr/sbin/logcheck" I get a mail with "logcheck should not be run as root. Use su to invoke logcheck: su -s /bin/bash -c "/usr/sbin/logcheck [options]" logcheck" |
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| 08:11.36 | dondelelcaro | Thor-: right, so have your crontab line be 1 30 * * * somenonrootuser nice -n 10 logcheck.... |
| 08:11.41 | dondelelcaro | Thor-: man 5 crontab for details. |
| 08:11.58 | dondelelcaro | note that this is cron.d, *NOT* cron.daily. |
| 08:12.09 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, #flood? |
| 08:12.14 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: I'm there. |
| 08:12.26 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, see my paste |
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| 08:13.10 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: hrm... it looks like fdisk should be able to read it; does /dev/sdb exist? does /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target0/lun0/disc ? |
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| 08:13.21 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: did you try sfidsk or similar? |
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| 08:13.42 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, /dev/sdb exists but the longer path does not, I haven't tried any other partition tool than fdisk |
| 08:13.47 | nekostar | ok im installing 2.6.8.2 kernel brb jm_ / dondelelcaro ^_^ |
| 08:14.06 | gmedina | After googling uselessly.... does anyone know of a good "Sound from scratch" guide to linux??? |
| 08:14.13 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: right; you're doing this as root, right? |
| 08:14.14 | wam | Is there a tool that can "repartition" from a physical partition (sda4) to a logical one? The reason: I have 4 physical partitions and now I need more. So I'd like to make sda4 to a extended partition and make logical partitions into it. |
| 08:14.20 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, correct |
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| 08:14.31 | nkuttler | gmedina: what do you mean? |
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| 08:14.37 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: and less /dev/sdb; fails as well? [may need to use -F] |
| 08:14.48 | dondelelcaro | s/-F/-f/ |
| 08:15.04 | jm_ | lucasjb: is it mentioned in /proc/partitions? |
| 08:15.21 | mahatma | hy |
| 08:15.35 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, less fails |
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| 08:15.41 | lucasjb | jm_, yes it is mentioned |
| 08:16.03 | jm_ | lucasjb: sounds good, no idea why reading from it would fail though |
| 08:16.13 | lucasjb | major minor #blocks name |
| 08:16.15 | gmedina | nkuttler: I have audio only in tvtime, but nowhere else... I'd like to know if there's any kind of in-depth guide to audio in linux? Im all dizzy about alsa/oss stuff on google, but everywhere everyone assumes ppl knows about it... |
| 08:16.17 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: any useful output in dmesg about the failure? |
| 08:16.18 | lucasjb | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:16.27 | jm_ | and its size |
| 08:16.29 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, not that I can see... |
| 08:16.35 | jm_ | lucasjb: is the size correct? |
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| 08:16.52 | lucasjb | jm_, yeah, it's a RAID-5 of four 250GB disks so 800GB is about right |
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| 08:17.06 | nekostar | er something interesting... lol im getting a message about how /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386 exists... |
| 08:17.19 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, actually there are dmesg errors... see #flood |
| 08:18.06 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: heh. well, there you go. |
| 08:18.18 | nkuttler | gmedina: hm... google alsa howto and /msg dpkg faq |
| 08:18.27 | nkuttler | gmedina: what other apps don't have sound? |
| 08:18.28 | lucasjb | argh!@ |
| 08:18.30 | lucasjb | what does it mean? |
| 08:18.33 | plbgnr | hello, I have just read about calc program.... which package shall I install to have it? ...I have this problem often (apt-cache search doesn't help) |
| 08:18.41 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: not quite sure what to do about that... maybe you need to reassemble the array? |
| 08:18.50 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, OK, perhaps I'll try that |
| 08:18.53 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: which kernel are you running? |
| 08:18.54 | gmedina | nkuttler: none, only tvtime, not kaffeine, xmms, kboodle, none |
| 08:18.55 | liable | someone had a problem with an adaptec a little while ago, and a newwer kernel fixed it.. |
| 08:19.06 | lucasjb | 2.6.8-1 the Sarge stock one |
| 08:19.07 | dondelelcaro | liable: yeah, my thoughts exactly... |
| 08:19.27 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: hrm... you may give a newer kernel a shot too if you think the array is set up properly. |
| 08:19.40 | paradicelost | how do I stop bind from starting at boot and run dnsmasq instead? |
| 08:19.42 | nkuttler | gmedina: xmms for example can be configured to use oss or alsa, in the preferences. if you're using gnome or kde there might be a sound daemon running (esd, artsd iirc) |
| 08:19.45 | lucasjb | dondelelcaro, OK I'll try reassembling the array then a newer kernel... |
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| 08:19.55 | bibe | paradicelost : use update-rc.d |
| 08:19.56 | dondelelcaro | lucasjb: cool; good luck. |
| 08:19.58 | lucasjb | Thanks for the help dondelelcaro, jm_, liable |
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| 08:20.16 | jm_ | paradicelost: or simply uninstall bind if you don't plan on running it |
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| 08:20.45 | plbgnr | ...or another question:is there way to get more robust info about packages than with 'apt-get update' ? |
| 08:21.02 | jm_ | apt-get update hardly gives you any info |
| 08:21.36 | jm_ | plbgnr: about your previous question -- /msg dpkg search |
| 08:21.38 | dondelelcaro | plbgnr: what are you looking for in particular? |
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| 08:21.41 | jm_ | calc is very hand, I like it a lot |
| 08:21.48 | jm_ | handy even |
| 08:21.51 | dondelelcaro | jm_: M-x clalc? |
| 08:21.54 | dondelelcaro | s/la/a/ |
| 08:21.56 | plbgnr | jm_ ...no, simple example apt-cache search stdio.h |
| 08:21.58 | paradicelost | jm_: unistalling bind takes out a whole swag of stuff along with it... |
| 08:22.00 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: naah, /usr/bin/calc |
| 08:22.08 | jm_ | paradicelost: right |
| 08:22.14 | jm_ | plbgnr: apt-cache doesn't search for filenames |
| 08:22.18 | gmedina | nkuttler: artsd is running |
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| 08:22.20 | dondelelcaro | plbgnr: you want apt-file, not apt-cache |
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| 08:22.30 | jm_ | plbgnr: that's why I said /msg dpkg search |
| 08:22.31 | Kovecses | sid seems pretty stablr |
| 08:22.33 | Kovecses | sid seems pretty stable |
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| 08:23.09 | dondelelcaro | the issue with sid isn't it's ability to run at any particular point in time, it's the fact that it's constantly changing and can break at a moments notice. |
| 08:23.12 | nkuttler | gmedina: i don't know how artsd works exactly. you may need to configure your apps to use it |
| 08:23.19 | dondelelcaro | we do currently have ~ 1k RC bugs open. |
| 08:23.26 | nkuttler | gmedina: kde apps should use it as default though |
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| 08:23.36 | gmedina | nkuttler: hey hey hey, I kill-ed artsd, and the xmms worked! |
| 08:23.51 | nkuttler | gmedina: i don't like sound daemons either |
| 08:23.59 | gmedina | what does it mean |
| 08:24.01 | gmedina | ? |
| 08:24.51 | nkuttler | gmedina: arts blocked the soundcard for other apps. the apps have to go through artsd. |
| 08:25.33 | gmedina | then the solution is to configure artsd? or keep artsd from starting? |
| 08:25.53 | gmedina | well nevermind, lemme google again |
| 08:26.01 | gmedina | nkuttler: thanks a lot |
| 08:26.04 | gmedina | :) |
| 08:26.06 | nkuttler | np |
| 08:26.06 | microsys | der hier angeschlossene scanner, als root erkennbar, als user nicht, denke ich muss im devfs gesagt werden dass user drauf zugreifen dürfen. Nur wie finde ich raus welches device er überhaupt bekommt? /dev/input/ts0 ?! andere glaub ich eher nicht |
| 08:26.12 | nkuttler | !de |
| 08:26.13 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 08:26.29 | microsys | bzw. sehe ich irgendwo die zuordnung von hardware-bus-id zu /dev-file? |
| 08:26.31 | plbgnr | dondelelcaro: thanks I didn't know apt-file |
| 08:26.59 | microsys | erks |
| 08:27.00 | microsys | sry, sleepy |
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| 08:28.21 | microsys | the here connected scanner, found as root, undetectable as user, i guess devfs has to be told what permissions/group/owner the dev-file has to be set to. But where can is see what Bus-ID is connected to which dev-file? |
| 08:28.38 | microsys | thinking in english but writing in german ;P |
| 08:28.48 | Kovecses | dondelelcaro, im a dumbass.... i had the contrib after the security line.... java-package is there |
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| 08:29.37 | Kovecses | what is the command to just get security updates? |
| 08:30.01 | jm_ | sid has no security sources |
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| 08:30.05 | liable | microsys: are you a member of scanner group? |
| 08:30.08 | microsys | the most probably dev is /dev/input/ts0 - since this is the only file i wouldn`t recognize as something different |
| 08:30.11 | Kovecses | jm_, yes i know |
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| 08:30.13 | microsys | yes i am |
| 08:30.27 | Kovecses | jm_, this is a different machine |
| 08:30.31 | liable | microsys: did you log out since you added yourself? |
| 08:30.42 | rend_ | is mysql 5 out for debian yet? |
| 08:30.51 | jm_ | Kovecses: you can't get just security updates, the only way would be to delete other sources.list entries |
| 08:30.51 | microsys | btw. is no dev in /dev within group user |
| 08:30.57 | cheal | !info mysql-server-5.0 |
| 08:31.01 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.15-2 (sid), Packaged size: 16680 kB, Installed size: 37412 kB |
| 08:31.04 | jm_ | maybe it's possible with pinning, not sure |
| 08:31.06 | microsys | yes i am since 2 weeks in this group |
| 08:31.07 | Kovecses | jm_, ok i got ya |
| 08:31.10 | rend_ | nice! |
| 08:31.30 | rend_ | im in love with debian |
| 08:31.39 | microsys | err, within group scanner |
| 08:31.56 | widrone | !love |
| 08:31.56 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
| 08:31.58 | Kovecses | rend_, im in love too |
| 08:31.59 | microsys | i think its just missing the right permissions in /dev |
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| 08:32.06 | Kovecses | rend_, u using sarge? |
| 08:32.17 | rend_ | Kovecses: yep |
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| 08:32.27 | Kovecses | rend_, cool |
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| 08:32.35 | microsys | is there a kind like scsi_info for all /dev devices? (returns id and info for the device) |
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| 08:33.07 | corfe | ouch, did those guys really need to be kicked? |
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| 08:33.41 | litage | i have a new Intel D945GNT motherboard with an onboard gigabit NIC (chipset: Intel 82573E/82573V/82574V). the debian installer doesn't detect it though. which driver should i use? |
| 08:33.42 | corfe | what if they all came from similar IP's but just wanted help with their debian systems? |
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| 08:33.52 | jm_ | microsys: try lsscsi or sg-utils |
| 08:34.01 | liable | wow, not one brute force ssh today :) |
| 08:34.03 | jm_ | litage: tried e1000? |
| 08:34.06 | Kovecses | brb |
| 08:34.09 | microsys | its no scsi ;P |
| 08:34.12 | widrone | corfe: Nope. Not really, not every day. Not the same way, nope. |
| 08:34.20 | corfe | oh. |
| 08:34.23 | corfe | fair enough :P just curious |
| 08:34.28 | litage | jm_: i haven't, but if that was the correct driver, why would debian not autodetect it? |
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| 08:34.48 | jm_ | litage: it's possible your kernel driver is too old to support the NIC, or the tools don't know it |
| 08:34.49 | nekostar | heh yay |
| 08:35.06 | widrone | corfe: Not just saying the excact same friggin frases my spamfilter chew thru 10 times a second either =) |
| 08:35.12 | nekostar | now i have sound and my nvidia drivers are broken! definately a step up! |
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| 08:35.39 | corfe | widrone: ah. Well, I feel better about it then, thanks. |
| 08:35.42 | jm_ | nekostar: need to reinstall them for new kernel |
| 08:35.46 | microsys | nekostar, smp+2.6.13+? |
| 08:35.49 | litage | jm_: i'll try e1000. thanks |
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| 08:36.11 | nekostar | microsys, still set up for old kernel :) |
| 08:36.22 | widrone | corfe: You care thu, its a nice trait to have going for yourself. Keep it up! |
| 08:36.32 | microsys | with m-a this is pretty fast ;P |
| 08:37.27 | nekostar | ok i dont see those lol i see no nvidia 2.6 options for some reason.. |
| 08:37.46 | microsys | ? |
| 08:37.55 | corfe | widrone: I will :P |
| 08:38.01 | litage | jm_: the e1000 module failed to load. what should i do/try now? |
| 08:38.17 | jm_ | litage: which kernel is it? |
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| 08:38.36 | Manoj_ | I think I have broken official kernel images with the new kernel-package |
| 08:38.39 | nekostar | in synaptic i dont see any 2.6 nvidia things.. and it makes me install the 2.4 if i try to just put in nvidia-glx for some reason.. should i add testing to my apt/sources.list? |
| 08:39.03 | microsys | did you try with module-assistant? |
| 08:39.11 | litage | jm_: whichever the Debian 3.1r0a ISO comes with...so 2.4.12 i think? |
| 08:39.24 | microsys | you won't get a nice nvidia.deb |
| 08:39.28 | cheal | nekostar: no |
| 08:39.36 | cheal | !tell nekostar about nvidia-howto |
| 08:39.39 | jm_ | litage: 2.4? I only have 2.6 sources to check |
| 08:39.47 | cheal | nekostar: follow the module-assistant method |
| 08:39.56 | nekostar | thanx cheal and no i didnt microsys >_< ok ^_^ |
| 08:39.57 | litage | jm_: how can i check the 2.4 sources? |
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| 08:40.26 | jm_ | litage: well lspci -n to find its PCI ID, then you need to check if e1000 driver knows it |
| 08:40.27 | microsys | ;P |
| 08:40.50 | litage | jm_: i'm at the very initial stages of installing debian on a new box =P |
| 08:40.54 | corfe | !love |
| 08:40.54 | dpkg | Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath. At night, the ice weasels come. |
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| 08:41.01 | corfe | I was curious if it had different quotes. |
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| 08:41.26 | litage | corfe: that quote should be "the ice weasels cometh". more impact :) |
| 08:41.32 | corfe | heheh |
| 08:41.51 | jm_ | litage: well lspci or cat /proc/pci to get ID-s |
| 08:42.11 | microsys | im dizzy, ill take a 20 min. nap again - until the next student rushes into the office .. brb |
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| 08:42.36 | litage | jm_: after installation has finished, how does one change which ethernet module is loaded? |
| 08:43.03 | jm_ | litage: simply stick it into /etc/modules, or rely on hotplug to find it and load it |
| 08:43.03 | nekostar | ooooooooo this is KEWL |
| 08:43.15 | litage | jm_: awesome possum. thanks |
| 08:43.25 | microsys | nekostar seems pretty happy with m-a |
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| 08:43.44 | jm_ | I see 82547 mentioned several times in e1000 in 2.6.13.4 |
| 08:43.48 | plbgnr | is there possibility to give arguments to aliases? for using as this:alias fff='find . -name $1 --exec cat {}\;' and then to use:fff file*.html ...but this doesn't work :)) |
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| 08:44.13 | jm_ | plbgnr: no, use shell functions instead |
| 08:44.34 | jm_ | and you'll want to quote that properly |
| 08:45.58 | tcsetattr | it would look like this: fff () { find . -name "$1" -exec cat '{}' \; } |
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| 08:46.17 | microsys | wouldn't this actually work if he just put the argument to the end? ;P |
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| 08:46.37 | jm_ | microsys: find commands wants ; at the end |
| 08:46.46 | microsys | ic, --exec |
| 08:47.01 | jm_ | actually yeah -exec wants it, might work |
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| 08:47.19 | tcsetattr | but to improve it: fff () { find . -name "$1" -print 0 | xargs -0 cat } |
| 08:47.30 | tcsetattr | oops, -print 0 should be -print0 |
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| 08:48.16 | tcsetattr | if the directory tree is small enough, I'd just use "cat **/file" (zsh recursive globbing) |
| 08:48.46 | jm_ | zsh++ :) |
| 08:48.46 | dabaR | where is a good explanation of the file system in unix, the /var /etc /sys, and so on? |
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| 08:48.56 | microsys | in the root directory |
| 08:48.58 | microsys | *hide* |
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| 08:49.13 | steal | hi all |
| 08:49.23 | microsys | no, the unix administration guide covers this |
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| 08:49.23 | steal | i need to recover an bmp image |
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| 08:50.03 | steal | there is some prog that rebuild the bmp header??? |
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| 08:50.26 | dabaR | microsys: which can be found where? thats a book, right? |
| 08:50.50 | tcsetattr | just how much of the bmp file have you lost? do you know what its dimensions should be? |
| 08:51.10 | steal | mmm i don't know nothing |
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| 08:51.39 | nekostar | o sweet that wasnt too hard at all |
| 08:51.39 | tcsetattr | so how do you know there is any valid data at all? |
| 08:51.47 | steal | i've recovered it from a damaged cd |
| 08:51.55 | steal | yes |
| 08:52.06 | mama_soap | Hello. Could anyone please tell me what a psmisc input/output error means? All my apt-get install <package> commands terminate excecution with a "unable to open files list file for package `psmisc': Input/output error" message. |
| 08:52.09 | steal | there is much valid data in that file |
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| 08:52.25 | jm_ | mama_soap: you are still working on that? |
| 08:52.31 | steal | but my problem is that i don't know the image with and height |
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| 08:52.39 | steal | width |
| 08:52.48 | tcsetattr | do you know how big the file is supposed to be? |
| 08:52.55 | steal | yes |
| 08:53.30 | mama_soap | Well, actually, yeah. I have asked for a hd replacement, but it won't be shipped till the weekend. Till then, I still want to know what the error means. More curiousity than anything else - although it would be great if I could fix things on my current hard disk |
| 08:53.35 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/psmisc.list ; what do you see? |
| 08:53.39 | liable | mama_soap: as an ugly hack, you might want to edit the dpkg status file. |
| 08:53.52 | jm_ | try to read the file, check dmesg for errors |
| 08:53.52 | steal | the data in that file is corrupt |
| 08:54.02 | steal | but the size is right |
| 08:54.06 | tcsetattr | steal, so you are missing the beginning of the file? has it been overwritten with a bunch of zeroes? you're not giving many clues. |
| 08:54.25 | liable | weeee, new laptop battery, gone from 1:20 to 4:30 :) |
| 08:54.29 | mama_soap | tcsetattr: cat: /var/lib/dpkg/info/psmisc.list: Input/output error :( <without the smiley, heh> |
| 08:54.43 | steal | i've lost only the header of that file |
| 08:54.53 | steal | first 54 bit i think |
| 08:55.01 | jm_ | liable: I hope you're not referring to its weight there *g* |
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| 08:55.16 | liable | heh :) |
| 08:55.24 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, sounds like trouble. try moving that file to /tmp and hope that it being missing will be better than having I/O errors on it. |
| 08:55.32 | bibe | hi all. I have a little script that sets the "wireless led" status depending on the wireless network interface status. It's in /etc/network/if-up.d and /etc/network/if-down.d, it checks if $IFACE is wireless and sets the led status accordingly |
| 08:56.14 | bibe | I used to check whether $IFACE is wireless or not looking testing [ -d /sys/class/net/$IFACE/wireless ] |
| 08:56.22 | mama_soap | liable: I am not sure I would know what to edit to my advantage, so I wouldn't dare yet. Like I said, I am more interested in knowing what the psmisc does. When I try upgrading the psmisc file from my DVD, it gets stuck because of a problem with nxml-mode, which really surprises me. |
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| 08:56.35 | steal | i think that i must to know only the image xy size |
| 08:56.36 | bibe | but since I installed kernel 2.6.14, that dir doesn't exist anymore. |
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| 08:57.05 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, psmisc contains the commands "killall", "pstree", and "fuser" (miscellaneous process related commands) |
| 08:57.19 | jm_ | bibe: how about the type file in there? |
| 08:57.22 | mama_soap | tcsetattr: will brb after trying your suggestion, thank you very much. Sounds like trouble, yeah, I think I gathered that much over the last week, lol |
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| 08:57.51 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, also you should check dmesg for disk errors, maybe you have bad blocks and should run e2fsck -c on it |
| 08:57.53 | bibe | jm_ : its content is '1' |
| 08:58.01 | jm_ | bibe: for wireless card? |
| 08:58.04 | bibe | yes |
| 08:58.15 | jm_ | same as for my ethernet then, no help |
| 08:58.26 | bibe | jm_ : same as my ethernet too |
| 08:58.27 | bibe | :-S |
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| 08:58.38 | mama_soap | Ah I see... let me try moving that file now *sigh* No, I'm afraid badblocks and fsck aren't returning any errors as far as I can see, I've tried that a few times now. |
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| 08:58.51 | bibe | jm_ : anyway, thank you |
| 08:59.00 | jm_ | bibe: maybe look at the device symlink in there |
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| 08:59.50 | nekostar | yay |
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| 09:00.02 | nekostar | thankyou for all your help today guys!~ |
| 09:00.05 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, debugfs might be useful... |
| 09:00.09 | bibe | jm_ : features contains 0x1183 for the wired and 0x0 for the wireless |
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| 09:00.27 | bibe | and 0x20 for the firewire |
| 09:01.01 | jm_ | bibe: would be good to know what that actually means |
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| 09:02.14 | litage | i booted a 3.1r0a ISO with "linux26", but Debian fails to detect my two 120gb SATA HDs: "No partitionable media found." what should i do? |
| 09:02.16 | bibe | jm_ : sure. Where can I find info on the /sys pseudo filesystem? |
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| 09:02.35 | jm_ | bibe: there's some info in kernel docs, but it doesn't go into details like that |
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| 09:02.46 | Fackamato | liable what s-ata controller? |
| 09:02.48 | Fackamato | lspci |
| 09:02.49 | jm_ | litage: are they mentioned in /proc/partitions? |
| 09:02.57 | bibe | jm_ : I'll google more, thank you |
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| 09:03.15 | litage | jm_: how can i get to a shell during installation? |
| 09:03.16 | nekostar | <3 |
| 09:03.24 | jm_ | litage: alt-f2 |
| 09:03.30 | litage | ah =P |
| 09:03.32 | liable | litage: can you set it to legacy ata in bios? |
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| 09:04.16 | mama_soap | Well, when I do "mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/psmisc.list /tmp", I get "mv /var/lib/dpkg/info/psmisc.list /tmp |
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| 09:04.40 | mama_soap | Oops... sorry about the typo - I meant I get a "mv: cannot stat `/var/lib/dpkg/info/psmisc.list': Input/output error" error |
| 09:05.04 | tcsetattr | and this thing passes an e2fsck? |
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| 09:05.17 | jm_ | I wouldn't dare to run e2fsck on such disk |
| 09:05.20 | chrysopa | Hi |
| 09:05.36 | jm_ | mama_soap: did you run badblocks? |
| 09:05.43 | mama_soap | However, when I try going to /var/lib/dpkg/info with konquerer, I can't even find the file! The closest is a file called psmisc.postinst |
| 09:05.45 | dondelelcaro | that disk has serious problems. |
| 09:05.46 | chrysopa | How to execute a fsck with a progress meter? |
| 09:05.56 | jm_ | chrysopa: man fsck |
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| 09:06.43 | mama_soap | jm_: Yeah, I did - that's what really surprises me; badblocks returned nothing. I remember running it in single user mode yesterday, and again this morning. Wierder and wierder, I guess. |
| 09:06.53 | litage | jm_: ``cat /proc/partitions'' lists nothing, though the sata drives are brand new and don't have any partitions yet |
| 09:06.57 | tcsetattr | well "cannot stat" means the error is probably in the inode block. (or maybe the directory itself) |
| 09:07.04 | jm_ | mama_soap: that is strange indeed |
| 09:07.06 | chrysopa | Yes, I see that is -C [ fd ] |
| 09:07.07 | litage | liable: i'm not sure. i'll check |
| 09:07.15 | jm_ | mama_soap: so maybe the fs is hosed |
| 09:07.16 | tcsetattr | dmesg really should show some fs complaints in this case |
| 09:07.19 | chrysopa | But, I dont understand |
| 09:07.39 | chrysopa | I need to put -C * to make * the progress unit? |
| 09:07.44 | jm_ | litage: then check if your SATA controller is supported |
| 09:07.53 | chrysopa | Or put only -C |
| 09:08.02 | jm_ | chrysopa: fd is optiona |
| 09:08.05 | jm_ | optional |
| 09:08.11 | chrysopa | OK |
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| 09:08.36 | mama_soap | A lot of strange things are happening on my system - I guess the best thing *would* be to get a new hd - for instance, when I look up the size of /usr, I get 17.1 GB, but the entire root partition is only 11! I don't know if to put this down to a bad hd or not... |
| 09:08.37 | eliteforce | higood morning |
| 09:08.43 | litage | liable: yes, i can set the ATA/IDE mode to legacy in the bios. i'll try that |
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| 09:09.30 | S4nD3r | Hi there. My Gnome Desktop doesnt loggin... Always stop in "Metacity Window".... What to do ?? |
| 09:09.31 | tcsetattr | important thing to know when reading many kinds of documentation: stuff in [ brackets ] is optional. |
| 09:09.35 | liable | litage: http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 09:09.39 | chrysopa | oKtosiTe, The mistake is that I see the option but try to use with fsck.ext3. This options only work with fsck. |
| 09:09.47 | litage | liable: yeah i'm reading that right now thanks to dpkg |
| 09:09.53 | mama_soap | Oh, by the way, I haven't run e2fsck. Just fsck and badblocks. And neither tell me anything about the harddisk. |
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| 09:10.19 | jm_ | fsck.ext3 man page says to use -C 0 |
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| 09:10.40 | jm_ | mama_soap: fsck is just a front-end which calls fsck.ext2 |
| 09:11.04 | mama_soap | Okay - one final question (I'll try to make this the last) - are aptitude, apt-get and dpkg the only package installers on Sarge? I mean, if my dpkg is (for some reason) corrupt, is there any other way I can try installing packages? |
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| 09:11.10 | litage | jm_: how can i determine which sata controller the mobo has? intel's info page doesn't seem to mention it ( http://www.intel.com/products/motherboard/d945gnt/index.htm / http://www.intel.com/products/chipsets/945g/index.htm ) |
| 09:11.16 | jm_ | litage: cat /proc/pci, lspci |
| 09:11.25 | mama_soap | jm_: I see - thanks for clarifying that for me. |
| 09:11.36 | jm_ | litage: it's probably IHC5 or 6 (or 7 if it's really new) |
| 09:11.37 | eliteforce | can i simply install the java5 binary from java.sun.com for sarge or are there java5 packagess? |
| 09:11.45 | jm_ | eliteforce: /msg dpkg java |
| 09:11.55 | jm_ | or is that ICH? |
| 09:12.13 | kneet | Running netsaint. Need to migrate to nagios on the same box - but the powers that be want a period of parallel running. Since the packages conflict then parallel running isn't so easy - can it be done neatly? |
| 09:12.13 | tcsetattr | mama_soap, you can do it the extremely hard way, extracting the .deb files with ar and tar (or dpkg-deb if you're lucky) and running the scripts by hand. But you don't want to do that. |
| 09:13.13 | jm_ | mama_soap: but in any case you'll want dpkg to just work, otherwise it will be a pain to install anything, like tcsetattr explained |
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| 09:14.14 | mama_soap | tcsetattr: wow, I guess not. The only things missing are Kile and Gimp - and I guess that would take a fair amount of time to install if I'd to run my scripts by hand. Yeah, a malfunctioning dpkg isn't a nice feeling. I hope a new harddisk will help - or I'll probably be back here to re-bug everyone with more questions. In the meantime, thank you very much for your time :) |
| 09:14.21 | tcsetattr | if fsck can't fix your filesystem, you're in for a long hard battle. |
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| 09:14.37 | evilkenshin | how do i set up a wireless notebook card? |
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| 09:15.01 | litage | liable: using legacy ata mode fails to detect the sata drives too. checking lspci now |
| 09:15.10 | mama_soap | lol... I'm in no mood to fight - I'm just a weak and hungry teenager, and I'd much rather wait for my new disk :D |
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| 09:15.20 | liable | litage: bugger |
| 09:15.21 | mama_soap | *gives up* |
| 09:15.27 | imex | hiya eveyone |
| 09:15.32 | imex | *everyone |
| 09:15.34 | evilkenshin | how do i set up a wireless notebook card? |
| 09:16.00 | liable | evilkenshin: congrats, you win the vagueness award for today! |
| 09:16.08 | widrone | evilkenshin: Chipset? You have pcmcia subsystem working ok? |
| 09:16.10 | evilkenshin | uhh |
| 09:16.19 | evilkenshin | it is internal wireless card |
| 09:16.30 | liable | !vague |
| 09:16.30 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
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| 09:16.35 | litage | jm_: /proc/pci and lspci don't currently exist... |
| 09:17.41 | liable | evilkenshin: try google first, when you narrow it down to specific problems, feel free to come back. |
| 09:17.42 | evilkenshin | it is set up as eth1 however the wireless card on boot up never connects to any networks and when i use kwifimanager it can not find networks even thgouh they are there |
| 09:17.53 | imex | i want to know if there is a way to do full system backup like in Windoze program called DriveImage? |
| 09:18.28 | evilkenshin | how does debian handle wireless cards? |
| 09:18.54 | widrone | evilkenshin: Chipset, some of them have bugs like you would not belive. Tell us please, what chipset? |
| 09:19.15 | widrone | evilkenshin: And try iwconfig for more if you have it working that far. |
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| 09:19.46 | liable | evilkenshin: try iwlist eth1 scanning |
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| 09:20.32 | bibe | imex : try partimage |
| 09:20.35 | evilkenshin | how do i find the chipset? |
| 09:20.43 | mama_soap | Well, thanks everyone, particularly jm_ and tcsetattr - I'll be out of here, and perhaps come back if I'm in need of troubleshooting :) |
| 09:20.46 | evilkenshin | this is a older laptop that was given to me |
| 09:21.29 | SerajewelKS | imex: how about 'cat /dev/hda | bzip2 | |
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| 09:21.32 | widrone | evilkenshin: lspci in a tremaina and a little google looving should get you some answers perhapps. |
| 09:21.36 | SerajewelKS | imex: how about 'cat /dev/hda | bzip2 > hda.bz2' |
| 09:21.58 | widrone | evilkenshin: Or try the linux laptops page for your model. |
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| 09:22.26 | imex | bibe: thanks i go search now |
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| 09:22.38 | jm_ | litage: tough luck then |
| 09:22.45 | evilkenshin | it is a prism card |
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| 09:23.12 | litage | jm_: is there no other way to determine which sata controller the Intel D945GNT motherboard uses? |
| 09:23.22 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 09:23.49 | jeanjacques | i'm trying to use tcpdump to see if i have an answer on the port 53 but my command is not working |
| 09:23.54 | evilkenshin | the network i am trying to connect to requires authentication that would not be significant in my card connecting would it? |
| 09:24.32 | jeanjacques | i'm trying tcpdump port 53 -v but it's not working do you know what's wrong with my command ? |
| 09:24.39 | widrone | evilkenshin: It would not? Please explain how. |
| 09:25.08 | evilkenshin | i have my card set to auto detect the network over dchp is that correct? |
| 09:25.18 | nekostar | now with sarge working im going fast to sleep! |
| 09:25.25 | evilkenshin | dhcp* |
| 09:25.25 | jm_ | litage: google probably |
| 09:26.11 | tcsetattr | tcpdump port 53 -v works for me (I'd prefer the -v at the beginning but it doesn't seem to matter) |
| 09:26.14 | jm_ | litage: one of the pages says Intel ICH7R |
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| 09:26.43 | litage | jm_: which page is that? |
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| 09:26.58 | jeanjacques | tcsetattr: ok thank you |
| 09:27.47 | jm_ | litage: I closed it, one of the first 3 hits for "D945GNT motherboard sata" IIRC |
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| 09:30.21 | kailer | allo i'm having a problem with my net install disc of debian, it boots the install but fails the mount the cd-rom any thoughts? |
| 09:30.23 | evilkenshin | this card uses frequency802.11-DS |
| 09:30.31 | evilkenshin | is that compatible with b? |
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| 09:31.28 | artyc | hello |
| 09:31.39 | litage | jm_: http://www.dealtime.com/xPF-Intel_MB_INTEL_945G_BLKD945GNTLR_OEM says the southbridge chip is ICH7R. does the southbridge act as the sata controller? |
| 09:31.52 | widrone | !fr |
| 09:31.52 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 09:32.09 | jm_ | litage: yes |
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| 09:32.16 | litage | ah |
| 09:32.50 | kailer | does anyone have any thoughts why the cd-rom wont boot? |
| 09:33.05 | litage | kailer: we'll need more information than that |
| 09:33.08 | tcsetattr | sunspots. |
| 09:33.14 | widrone | kailer: Sarge install? |
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| 09:33.52 | kailer | win: i belive so |
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| 09:36.13 | kailer | disc used it latest release I386 boots it up ust fine but when it getsto the detect cd-rom and mount it flops |
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| 09:36.42 | litage | jm_: does any kernel support ICH7R yet? |
| 09:37.08 | SimonRaven | tcsetattr: i usually blame neutrinos |
| 09:37.10 | widrone | kailer: alt + 2 / 3 give you anny errors, dmsg in a shell give you any reason? |
| 09:37.54 | blame | really? |
| 09:38.53 | artyc | I want to make my own debian, but I don't know how I can do that. I don't have find some doc for deboostrap so I think it's not the good way. Can you help me ? |
| 09:38.59 | kailer | winL forgive me i'm still learning linex so i'm unfamilar with alt _2/3,what is dmsg |
| 09:39.06 | dondelelcaro | artyc: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 09:39.07 | widrone | mount: /dev/sdb2 is not a valid block device - sure as hell it is! Dang! |
| 09:39.31 | dondelelcaro | widrone: what does /proc/partitions say? |
| 09:39.50 | artyc | dondelelcaro: make my own debian iso |
| 09:39.59 | widrone | kailer: press alt and key 2 at the same time, get a terminal, type 'dmsg' look for errors. Dont poste then here, stick it in #flood |
| 09:40.41 | tcsetattr | that's alt-F2; alt-2 will just get you a meta-2 or a \x02 or something. |
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| 09:41.00 | widrone | dondelelcaro: Its got all 4 partitions and the sda. Im in a chroot thu, that may be the case. |
| 09:41.05 | sanxiyn | Is http://www.freshports.org/ up? |
| 09:41.10 | kailer | win: i'll try it thanks |
| 09:41.22 | widrone | kailer: You talking to me? =) |
| 09:42.29 | jm_ | litage: at least 2.6.13 has it mentioned |
| 09:42.38 | jm_ | litage: via ahci module |
| 09:42.51 | litage | geebus that's new. this is for production boxes =/ |
| 09:43.03 | artyc | dondelelcaro: I want a very little and specific system |
| 09:43.16 | jm_ | I am runing it on my production machine ;) |
| 09:43.20 | widrone | dondelelcaro: Im trying to figure out why this disk wont boot, may have to do with modules or the mounting. |
| 09:43.36 | widrone | artyc: Look in install faq C.4 for debootstrap docs. |
| 09:43.42 | jm_ | litage: check if 2.6.8 has ahci |
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| 09:44.49 | jm_ | don't see it with apt-file and 686 kernel image |
| 09:44.50 | artyc | widrone: Can I make iso whith deboostrap ? I have search in debian wiki, google etc but whitout result... |
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| 09:45.03 | widrone | artyc: Dont really see why you want to make your own debian, or what to gain. Tried the net install cd, it just gets what you need to get a small system. |
| 09:45.10 | nykheyn | how to install nvidia drivers |
| 09:45.27 | widrone | artyc: No, dont think it got potions for making iso. |
| 09:45.29 | dondelelcaro | artyc: then use cdebootstrap -f minimal. |
| 09:45.52 | dondelelcaro | widrone: sda? or sdb? |
| 09:46.03 | litage | jm_: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/02/msg01221.html says that 2.6.10 added ahci |
| 09:46.22 | artyc | dondelelcaro: because I want to install my own package automaticly for my factory |
| 09:46.27 | jm_ | litage: indeed |
| 09:47.00 | liable | litage: try the etch installer. |
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| 09:47.03 | litage | jm_: so with what we now know, what's the best way for me to install sarge onto these sata drives |
| 09:47.04 | widrone | dondelelcaro: Dang, thanks for pointing that out. Debootstraped this disk in the other usb port when booted from a debian install I had on a memstick. |
| 09:47.23 | jm_ | litage: use compatibility mode in BIOS if you don't want to use newer kernel |
| 09:47.34 | widrone | Forgot to edit them all over when I rebooed. Now I feel stupid... |
| 09:47.42 | SimonRaven | |
| 09:47.47 | SimonRaven | woops |
| 09:47.51 | litage | liable: is it possible to install etch and then downgrade to sarge? |
| 09:47.53 | SimonRaven | sorry |
| 09:48.07 | artyc | widrone: It's for me a way to learn how debian is build, I want to make juste my own fork |
| 09:48.25 | liable | litage: not really. you want stable? |
| 09:48.31 | litage | liable: yes |
| 09:48.33 | SimonRaven | hope i didn't beep anyone's term |
| 09:48.52 | Reformed | which debian CD's do I need to download to have an install with KDE? |
| 09:49.14 | liable | litage: maybe install a minimal install with a newer distro, then debootstarp sarge and chroot and install a newer kernel? |
| 09:49.22 | widrone | artyc: Im not sure copying subset of .deb is considered a fork. But try starting with a netinst iso and unpack that, start adding you own pool of .debs |
| 09:50.03 | dondelelcaro | artyc: then boot off of some media and use cdebootstrap -f minimal; to install; or do something else funky. There are a few dozen ways of installing Debian. |
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| 09:50.12 | litage | liable: i was thinking that, or install onto a PATA drive, upgrade to 2.6.10 or whatever's needed, and then install from the PATA onto the SATA drives |
| 09:50.13 | artyc | widrone: because I have lot of computer and I want 3 kind of install |
| 09:50.31 | dondelelcaro | (when you become totally insane, you can invent your own methods, like I have) |
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| 09:50.41 | widrone | dondelelcaro: Thats it! No modules, no smart fault, just stupid typo/forgetfullness and human error. |
| 09:51.19 | sanxiyn | widrone: Well, wanting to know how to do "CD remastering" is perfectly fine? |
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| 09:51.40 | sanxiyn | artyc: Knoppix has some good documentation on how to make LiveCD based on Debian. |
| 09:51.43 | widrone | artyc: netinstall iso and preseed with info for d-i (maybe build a fresh one) then a locak package persporitory, add what you like. |
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| 09:52.14 | widrone | artyc: I think the workload exceeds the usefullness, imho. |
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| 09:52.51 | sanxiyn | widrone: For example, to make Debian LiveCD for Korean people, with all Korean-related settings preconfigured. |
| 09:53.11 | sanxiyn | (Some people did that this summer...) |
| 09:53.49 | dondelelcaro | widrone: it happens. |
| 09:54.23 | sanxiyn | artyc: If you want to build LiveCD, you may want to have a look at compressed loopback device to cram stuffs... |
| 09:54.28 | artyc | sanxiyn: yes, it's a good idea, but it for very small system and knoppix is quite heavy |
| 09:54.39 | dondelelcaro | artyc: how small? |
| 09:54.50 | widrone | sanxiyn: For preset stuff in a livefs I agree, but preseed is good for installs yes? Im just starting to look into the usefullness of the debian-installer with this config. |
| 09:55.09 | artyc | dondelelcaro: The install can't exceed 50mo |
| 09:55.24 | sanxiyn | widrone: It included Gaim patch for example, which Gaim upstream refused to include for ~2 years now. |
| 09:55.43 | sanxiyn | widrone: Because it's not the right thing, and GTK+ is to blame, which may be true, but is annoying to hell. |
| 09:55.45 | artyc | sanxiyn: but why it's impossible to do the same think, but not with a live cd |
| 09:55.50 | dondelelcaro | artyc: that's fairly tiny; what do you expect that to do? |
| 09:55.54 | artyc | thing |
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| 09:56.28 | artyc | dondelelcaro: radius server, vpn,firewall |
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| 09:56.44 | dondelelcaro | artyc: well, it'll fit; you're going to have to do some trimming. |
| 09:56.48 | artyc | and my package are rebuild to support RTAIL patch |
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| 09:57.32 | sanxiyn | artyc: Yes, learning how to create Debian install CD is not pointless. Good luck with that... |
| 09:57.52 | sanxiyn | I don't think there's walkthrough-like howto for that though. |
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| 09:58.10 | artyc | sanxiyn: that's why I'm ir ... |
| 09:58.11 | Douglas77 | I'm looking for some software to manage the packages on multiple Debian machines (so I know which machines I have to update on a DSA, e.g.). Hints? |
| 09:58.12 | artyc | lol |
| 09:58.13 | widrone | artyc: Its not debian but maybe its interesting none the less, http://tiny.seul.org/en/ its under 50mb install. Mix that with info from knoppix howto and whooma instant wiki howto from you to the world. |
| 09:58.17 | sanxiyn | artyc: It's not Debian, but you may want to have a look at Damn Small Linux. |
| 09:58.18 | widrone | !lol |
| 09:58.18 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 09:58.37 | sanxiyn | (Debian-based) |
| 09:58.56 | artyc | sanxiyn: thanks |
| 09:58.58 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: I personally use cron-apt to keep track of that stuff for me. |
| 09:59.01 | litage | jm_ , liable: there *is* a kernel that supports the ICH7R controller, right? |
| 09:59.14 | artyc | sanxiyn: it's a better way |
| 09:59.23 | widrone | artyc: Its the URL I pasted. Good luck. |
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| 09:59.26 | andrownz | when trying to multiplex ssh (one ssh -M -S /tmp/sc, plus one ssh -S /tmp/sc), does anybody know why it complains and close the master connection saying : "Connection to master closed." |
| 09:59.28 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: if I'm running in a production environment, I may even have by own Debian mirror where I vet security fixes, and have the machines automatically download them and install them. |
| 09:59.36 | dondelelcaro | s/production/large production/ |
| 10:00.01 | artyc | widrone: thanks too |
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| 10:00.46 | sanxiyn | debhelper, you suck. |
| 10:00.47 | Douglas77 | dondelelcaro: thanks, cron-apt sounds nice, but I _really_ want to have a central database with all the information. Of course, I could build sth like that myself, but I guess such thing already exists :) |
| 10:00.58 | widrone | artyc: Do have a look at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller aswell, maybe something usefull turns up. |
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| 10:01.07 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: the central database is just all of the status files. |
| 10:01.17 | artyc | widrone: yes I have look this URL |
| 10:01.50 | artyc | widrone: oh no |
| 10:01.58 | artyc | I haven't see this wiki |
| 10:02.00 | artyc | thx |
| 10:02.12 | Douglas77 | dondelelcaro: ok, but SELECT * FROM status does not work :) |
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| 10:02.32 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: uh, yes, but grep-status does. |
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| 10:02.42 | lxIT | Hello everyone |
| 10:03.00 | imex | brb testing partimage |
| 10:03.10 | imex | bibe: thanks again |
| 10:03.23 | imex | bibe: i let u know |
| 10:03.33 | lxIT | I just recompiled my kernel for the first time (yes, I'm a newbie), but I got a kernel panic when I booted with it. Is there a way to see the bootlog with the kernel-panic? |
| 10:03.39 | jm_ | litage: 2.6.10 and newer |
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| 10:04.23 | dondelelcaro | FE, for a in list of machine statuses; do echo -n $a; grep-status -P foopkg -s Version -n $a; done; |
| 10:04.41 | litage | jm_: great, thaks |
| 10:04.45 | litage | s/ks/nks/ |
| 10:04.46 | widrone | artyc: Its the preseeds that are gonna knock you out =0 |
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| 10:06.23 | litage | jm_ , liable: if i install Sarge and 2.6.10 onto a PATA HD and get the SATA HDs recognized, should i (a) install Sarge and 2.6.10 onto one of the SATAs, boot from the SATA, and then setup RAID, or (b) setup RAID while installing Sarge and 2.6.10 onto the two SATAs? |
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| 10:07.18 | jm_ | litage: it will be far easier if you can do it during installation |
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| 10:07.33 | litage | jm_: so i should aim for (b)? |
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| 10:07.41 | artyc | widrone: =p |
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| 10:09.16 | smartbhai | hi im having trouble compiling the source for feh .. can anyone help me out http://pastebin.ca/28104 |
| 10:09.21 | liable | litage: i dunno how you could do that without a custom installer.. |
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| 10:10.11 | jm_ | litage: that's the prefered choice yes |
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| 10:10.26 | litage | jm_: any comment on what liable just said? |
| 10:10.35 | rend | i cant find the mysql 5 package |
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| 10:11.00 | litage | rend: ``apt-cache search mysql | less'' |
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| 10:11.46 | rend | litage already did that |
| 10:12.06 | litage | rend: have you searched packages.debian.org yet? |
| 10:12.23 | jm_ | litage: you just need to replace the kernel on installation medium |
| 10:12.39 | si0ux | morning |
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| 10:12.44 | litage | jm_: "on installation medium"? |
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| 10:13.18 | rend | litage: must i use a browser? |
| 10:13.21 | jm_ | litage: yes, how else do you intend to use it for installation? |
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| 10:13.54 | rend | !apt mysql-server-5.0 |
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| 10:14.27 | rend | hmm wrong command? |
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| 10:15.03 | litage | jm_: i'm not completely sure what you're referring to/talking about. would you mind explaining a little more, please? |
| 10:15.05 | rend | !help |
| 10:15.14 | litage | rend: how about links |
| 10:15.19 | liable | litage: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt never done it, but looks doable. |
| 10:15.35 | litage | rend: i believe you can search for packages via the dpkg bot |
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| 10:16.23 | rend | !dpkg mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:16.37 | liable | rend: /msg dpkg search |
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| 10:17.06 | rend | !dfind mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:17.09 | litage | thanks liable |
| 10:17.11 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.15-2 (sid), Packaged size: 16680 kB, Installed size: 37412 kB |
| 10:17.56 | rend | hmm still not that helpful |
| 10:18.02 | liable | rend: you can do that in /msg with dpkg |
| 10:18.14 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | Q. anyone using Suse 9 Enterprise server? I want a find from that distribution - everyone else who wishes to help check if there is a manufacturer-PPDs-0.2-1.2.i586.rpm in their filesystem |
| 10:18.21 | liable | rend: once you have a query open, just ask away. |
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| 10:18.43 | SlayerXP | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: you joined #debian my mistake |
| 10:18.48 | litage | gotta go. thanks for your help jm_ and liable |
| 10:18.49 | SlayerXP | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: you joined #debian By mistake |
| 10:19.05 | abraxxa_ | hi |
| 10:19.34 | eliteforce | does somebody know where i can get a up2date tutorial for compiling the 2.6 kernel for sarge? |
| 10:19.49 | dondelelcaro | eliteforce: /msg dpkg kp; /msg dpkg kp mantra. |
| 10:19.55 | SlayerXP | eliteforce: google for "kernel HOWTO" |
| 10:20.03 | andrownz | UML : I know it's not really appropriated, but I'm looking for informations to learn UML (Unified Modeling Langage), there's not that much on google, someone can help? thanks |
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| 10:20.20 | jm_ | hmm that custom kernel thing used to be in installation manual for Woody, but don't see it in there now |
| 10:20.25 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | eliteforce: try using apt-get instead |
| 10:20.28 | rend | <liable> rend: once you have a query open, just ask away. |
| 10:20.41 | widrone | !tell andrownz about uml |
| 10:20.47 | abraxxa_ | i have a problem on one of my debian testing boxes where i see packets with tcpdump but neither apache2 nor the catalyst (perl web framework) integrated test webserver responds to them, except sometimes... |
| 10:20.58 | abraxxa_ | i tried the 686 instead of the k7 kernel which didn't help |
| 10:21.07 | rend | liable: it still doesnt tell me the location |
| 10:21.10 | abraxxa_ | no duplex mismatch, no crc errors |
| 10:21.17 | widrone | andrownz: I think atleast one of the urls are about the program language. |
| 10:21.41 | andrownz | widrone, yeah thanks, I'm already trying the last one =) |
| 10:21.42 | eliteforce | mUNoFiRaTT[GR]: i compiled the latest kernel already with kernel-package but something really went wrong :P kernel panic ! |
| 10:22.00 | liable | rend: the location of what? |
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| 10:22.25 | rend | mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:22.27 | eurisko | is someone having sucess upgrading to kde 3.4.1 on experimental? |
| 10:22.35 | bibe | eliteforce : did you enable your root filesystem support as a module? or directly into the kernel? |
| 10:22.37 | liable | rend: on your box? |
| 10:22.54 | Douglas77 | dondelelcaro: Thanks, I'll give it a try. But I'm still dreaming of a super-solution with mysql-backend and webfrontend and support for kitchen sinks :) |
| 10:23.00 | rend | checking the web now |
| 10:23.08 | andrownz | widrone, no wrong, it's not talking about Unified Modeling language, can't find any infos !! |
| 10:23.13 | rend | liable : right |
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| 10:23.32 | liable | rend: dpkg -L mysql-blah |
| 10:23.56 | widrone | andrownz: Dang, sorry. |
| 10:24.22 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | eliteforce: it worked fine for me |
| 10:24.24 | bibe | eurisko : isn't kde 3.4.2 already in etch? |
| 10:24.36 | eliteforce | bibe: im not sure, i think i messed the config :D |
| 10:24.52 | abraxxa_ | noone? |
| 10:25.06 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: you'll probably be waiting for a while; most of the people who do a lot of maintenance of Debian machines do it through the commandline, and tend to avoid actually needing to worry about what exactly is installed on which machines... |
| 10:25.16 | rend | liable: i mean the .deb |
| 10:25.16 | eurisko | i guess not .. but anyway trying to upgrade packages on experimental all the mirrors are giving me errors with packages file. |
| 10:25.39 | liable | rend: /var/cache/apt/ |
| 10:26.02 | SimonRaven | archives |
| 10:26.04 | liable | rend: or whatever didrectory you were in when you wgetted it.. |
| 10:26.20 | dondelelcaro | Douglas77: but then again, the information is all available, so there's nothing really stopping you from writing it... there may be some people who would find it useful. |
| 10:26.40 | liable | SimonRaven: thanks, had a brain fart for the last dir :) |
| 10:26.47 | SimonRaven | np |
| 10:27.31 | rend | liable : i never found a url |
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| 10:28.30 | liable | rend: wtf? just apt-get it!? |
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| 10:29.57 | rend | E: Couldn't find package mysql-server-5.0 |
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| 10:30.39 | eliteforce | dondelelcaro: what is the kp mantra for? when do i have to use it, what does it do? |
| 10:30.43 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | Q. anyone having the file --> /usr/share/cups/model/manufacturer-PPDs/epson/epln2700.ppd.gz <-- in their filesystem? |
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| 10:30.55 | Douglas77 | dondelelcaro: Right now, I'm becoming maintainer of the egroupware-TTS, I guess this should keep me busy enough already :) |
| 10:31.18 | Punko | hi everybody |
| 10:31.20 | Punko | how to see what encoder is using xmms ? |
| 10:31.22 | Punko | i play mp3 |
| 10:31.24 | Punko | is it lame ? |
| 10:31.49 | pngwn | rend, apt-cache search mysql-server |
| 10:31.50 | liable | rend: sheesh, http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=mysql-server-5.0&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 10:32.30 | Tidus | w00t... finally got samba configured. |
| 10:32.36 | Douglas77 | Punko: xmms is using a _decoder_, you can see which one in the xmms-prefs |
| 10:32.48 | lxIT | I recompiled my kernel and got a kernel panic: "VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown_block (0,0)", but my Grub-entry looks OK to me (same as stock kernel, except one line less) |
| 10:32.49 | rend | it only finds mysql-server-4.1 - mysql database server binaries |
| 10:32.57 | rend | !dfind mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:33.02 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.15-2 (sid), Packaged size: 16680 kB, Installed size: 37412 kB |
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| 10:33.09 | Dr_Fie | how do i run queries for packages |
| 10:33.16 | mUNoFiRaTT[GR] | ok... I've found it - thanks anyway |
| 10:33.16 | Tidus | Dr_Fie: man apt-cache |
| 10:33.24 | Dr_Fie | thx |
| 10:33.26 | rend | where did the bot see it? |
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| 10:34.00 | Punko | Douglas77 i have that problem |
| 10:34.07 | bibe | rend : it's in etch and sid |
| 10:34.12 | Punko | when i play a song my CPU is gettin on 100% using from the xmms |
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| 10:34.16 | Jtx | anyone knows how the slapd logfile can be written to separate file, not syslog |
| 10:34.51 | bibe | rend : do you have etch or sid repositories in your /etc/apt/sources.list? did you apt-get update? |
| 10:34.52 | Tidus | i believe debian's default samba config is a bit ... wonky from what i'm used to with gentoo |
| 10:34.54 | Punko | i have the same problem on other players too |
| 10:35.19 | dondelelcaro | Tidus: so change it; it's fairly straightforward. |
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| 10:35.26 | cusco | hi! |
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| 10:35.39 | cusco | i have a fat32 partition.. is it not possible to create links in it? |
| 10:35.45 | Tidus | dondelelcaro: already did. took me 4 hours |
| 10:35.45 | rend | bide: i already did the update |
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| 10:35.56 | dondelelcaro | cusco: fat32 doesn't have a concept of symlinks. |
| 10:36.07 | cusco | :( |
| 10:36.09 | Douglas77 | Punko: xmms uses libmpg123 afaik, you might want to update it |
| 10:36.17 | bibe | rend : and still 'apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0' returns package not found? |
| 10:36.40 | rend | bide: # apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:36.40 | rend | W: Unable to locate package mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:36.48 | Punko | Douglas77 it seems to use libmpeg |
| 10:36.57 | Punko | but i update my system every evening |
| 10:37.02 | Punko | if theres an upgrade |
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| 10:37.08 | dondelelcaro | rend: uh... you are running unstable, right? |
| 10:37.18 | dondelelcaro | !+info mysql-server-5.0 |
| 10:37.20 | dondelelcaro | !+info mysql-server-5.0 etch |
| 10:37.22 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 10:37.24 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.15-2 (sid), Packaged size: 16680 kB, Installed size: 37412 kB |
| 10:37.28 | dpkg | mysql-server-5.0: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 5.0.13rc-1 (etch), Packaged size: 16583 kB, Installed size: 37080 kB |
| 10:37.39 | dondelelcaro | ah... looks like it did make it in |
| 10:37.41 | bibe | please paste here the result of 'grep "^deb " /etc/apt/sources.list |grep etch |head -n1' |
| 10:37.41 | rend | dondelelcaro : sarge |
| 10:37.54 | Douglas77 | Punko: does this happen with every mp3 or just one? |
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| 10:37.58 | dondelelcaro | rend: then you're going to need a backport of mysql-server-5.0, or just run 4.X |
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| 10:38.09 | Punko | Douglas77 with every |
| 10:38.10 | rend | i need 5 |
| 10:38.31 | dondelelcaro | rend: then get a backport. |
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| 10:39.03 | bibe | rend : /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 10:39.41 | bibe | rend : and use etch instead of sid |
| 10:39.50 | rend | bide: blank |
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| 10:40.11 | Douglas77 | Punko: No idea then. Have you checked bugs.debian.org/xmms ? |
| 10:40.16 | rend | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:40.22 | dondelelcaro | !tell rend -about simple sid backport |
| 10:40.29 | Tidus | rend: i'm using etch and it's being really stable for me |
| 10:40.30 | bibe | rend : without the leading space |
| 10:40.40 | rend | i know |
| 10:40.44 | Punko | Douglas77 yep theres no something like my problem there |
| 10:40.45 | Punko | :/ |
| 10:40.47 | Punko | thanks |
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| 10:42.29 | rend | what is etch? |
| 10:42.44 | Tidus | rend: testing |
| 10:43.04 | snail | http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/ |
| 10:43.17 | snail | I'm surprised you couldn't find in from google |
| 10:43.46 | liable | snail: that would more than likely be due to the fact he/she didnt look.. |
| 10:44.13 | Tidus | i normally use testing instead of stable due to the fact that i like semi-up to date packages. |
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| 10:44.15 | j4v4m4n | is etch scheduled for 2009 for its stable release ? |
| 10:44.30 | liable | j4v4m4n: end of 2006 |
| 10:44.32 | stylish | does anyone know why my gpm does not work |
| 10:44.44 | rend | bide: is it required to use etch with the backport? |
| 10:44.51 | abraxxa_ | can anyone help me please?! |
| 10:45.08 | liable | !reference |
| 10:45.08 | dpkg | [reference] The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 10:45.16 | liable | rend: read that ^^^^ |
| 10:45.18 | widrone | stylish: usbmouse and 2.6? Ask dpkg about usbmice I think. |
| 10:45.35 | stylish | widrone : its a ps2 |
| 10:45.52 | stylish | im on 2.6 though |
| 10:46.14 | rend | liable : plan to after I part |
| 10:46.20 | jm_ | so ask it about PS/2 and 2.6 ;) |
| 10:46.32 | snail | abraxxa_: we're having a breakdown of telepathy, we can't help you unless you tell us what help you need |
| 10:46.33 | liable | rend: do so before you ask more silly questions. |
| 10:46.34 | widrone | !tell stylish about gpm |
| 10:47.48 | rend | liable : then that means they are both required? |
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| 10:48.25 | Jtx | anyone knows how the slapd logfile can be written to separate file, not syslog |
| 10:48.28 | liable | both what? |
| 10:48.50 | rend | use etch with the backport? |
| 10:48.51 | liable | Jtx: in its config file if its possible, i guess |
| 10:49.08 | liable | !tell loca|host about away |
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| 10:49.23 | snail | rend: generally backport is used with stable, I suggest that you ponder on the name backport |
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| 10:51.45 | bibe | rend : it's all about understanding debian policies with stable, testing and sid. And as you've been told, understanding backport |
| 10:52.05 | bibe | ah, he/she's gone |
| 10:52.30 | abraxxa_ | snail: did already |
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| 10:52.54 | abraxxa_ | i have a problem on one of my debian testing boxes where i see packets with tcpdump but neither apache2 nor the catalyst (perl web framework) integrated test webserver responds to them, except sometimes... |
| 10:52.55 | abraxxa_ | i tried the 686 instead of the k7 kernel which didn't help |
| 10:52.55 | abraxxa_ | no duplex mismatch, no crc errors |
| 10:53.07 | abraxxa_ | the tcp syn packets don't get answered |
| 10:53.48 | [TACO] | wow... I have usb support but its not detecting any USB devices... |
| 10:53.55 | Jtx | liable: not possible, but i found it, need to forward incoming logs in syslog.conf |
| 10:54.10 | snail | abraxxa_: are they going to the right port? are they being block by iptables, ipfilters? |
| 10:54.15 | liable | Jtx: :) |
| 10:55.15 | abraxxa_ | snail: everything alrigtht, works sometimes |
| 10:55.32 | bibe | I built a kernel-image from linux-source-2.6.14 (using the -1-686 .config, but compiling it on sarge to avoid libc6 upgrade), then I made Debian packages for more recent versions of ieee80211 and ipw2200 modules (already included into the kernel sources) |
| 10:55.37 | [TACO] | Anyone have any ideas what would make it so its not detecting my USB devices being plugged in or turned on? |
| 10:56.22 | snail | abraxxa_: is there anything in the log files? |
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| 10:57.01 | bibe | ipw2200 warns of "ieee80211_wx_get_encodeext" undefined, but goes on and produces the .deb for that module. Will that module load on the new built kernel? |
| 10:57.02 | liable | [TACO]: dmesg says nothing? |
| 10:57.11 | [TACO] | let me check again |
| 10:57.18 | liable | bibe: kust a warning |
| 10:57.22 | liable | just.. |
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| 10:57.43 | bibe | liable : so it will probably load |
| 10:57.50 | liable | bibe: yes |
| 10:57.53 | bibe | liable : thank you |
| 10:57.54 | [TACO] | liable: you in #flood ? |
| 10:57.58 | liable | yes |
| 10:58.01 | abraxxa_ | snail: which logs? |
| 10:58.02 | [TACO] | pasting 4 lines |
| 10:58.31 | liable | [TACO]: what device is that? |
| 10:59.02 | snail | abraxxa_: the apache logs and the file wall logs would be a good place to start, followed by dmesg |
| 10:59.12 | [TACO] | thats the thing pardevice I do not understand, I do not have no parallel device |
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| 10:59.37 | liable | what are you plugging in? |
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| 10:59.41 | [TACO] | USB |
| 10:59.53 | k-man1 | when i run ntpdate, i get the message no servers can be used... but i have checked the config file and the servers seem to be ok |
| 11:00.00 | widrone | [TACO]: USB what? |
| 11:00.03 | Dagobert | hi |
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| 11:00.13 | [TACO] | printer or Datavault |
| 11:00.16 | liable | usb what? didlo, coffe cup, lawn mower? |
| 11:00.21 | widrone | !de |
| 11:00.22 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 11:00.23 | [TACO] | /proc/bus/usb is blank |
| 11:00.24 | midg3t | k-man1: /etc/default/ntpdate ? |
| 11:00.34 | k-man1 | midg3t, yeah |
| 11:00.48 | abraxxa_ | snail: apache2 logs only show when it works, i don't have iptables running (all tables accept) |
| 11:00.53 | liable | [TACO]: debian kernel? |
| 11:01.08 | liable | [TACO]: can you paste the whole of dmesg to a paster? |
| 11:01.14 | [TACO] | nope, custom build. Made sure twice that USB support was there, especially for printer and mass storage |
| 11:01.17 | midg3t | k-man1: what's your NTPSERVERS line set to? |
| 11:01.20 | [TACO] | liable: that I can do |
| 11:01.39 | widrone | liable: USB 2.0 dildo or the regular 1.1 ? Maybe the hub is restricting dataflow? What is log output, now there is something I like to see in #flood. |
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| 11:01.54 | liable | hehe |
| 11:02.07 | k-man1 | NTPSERVERS="0.pool.ntp.org 1.pool.ntp.org 2.pool.ntp.org" |
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| 11:02.51 | aSaT | I'm confused: mount does not show the / fs |
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| 11:03.08 | aSaT | But /proc/mounts has these: |
| 11:03.23 | aSaT | rootfs / rootfs rw 0 0 |
| 11:03.28 | widrone | [TACO]: You have a fstab with 'usbfs /proc/bus/usb usbfs defaults 0 0' at all? |
| 11:03.37 | lobz | is there a debian sarge kernel with himem support enabled? 2.6 |
| 11:03.50 | k-man1 | midg3t, any idea? |
| 11:03.54 | [TACO] | widrone: thats the odd thing, I noticed it was not there |
| 11:03.55 | aSaT | and /dev/root / ext2 rw,noatime 0 0 |
| 11:03.55 | liable | [TACO]: what about scsi support? |
| 11:04.06 | [TACO] | liable: http://pastebin.com/422830 |
| 11:04.07 | midg3t | k-man1: nope, looks ok |
| 11:04.12 | midg3t | what's the exact error msg? |
| 11:04.35 | abraxxa_ | snail? |
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| 11:04.41 | [TACO] | any specific module liable under scsi? |
| 11:04.54 | k-man1 | root@mythbox:~# ntpdate |
| 11:04.54 | k-man1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:05.03 | midg3t | hmm |
| 11:05.10 | k-man1 | midg3t, its bizzare |
| 11:05.17 | midg3t | ah |
| 11:05.19 | midg3t | i get the same |
| 11:05.22 | k-man1 | i can't get it to give me anything more useful than that |
| 11:05.23 | k-man1 | oh? |
| 11:05.25 | k-man1 | interesting |
| 11:05.26 | midg3t | ntpdate is only meant to be used on startup |
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| 11:05.37 | dondelelcaro | k-man1: you want something like ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 11:05.39 | midg3t | invoke-rc.d ntpdate restart |
| 11:05.41 | k-man1 | oh |
| 11:05.42 | k-man1 | i see |
| 11:05.59 | midg3t | install ntp-simple if you want constant clock updates |
| 11:06.12 | snail | abraxxa_? |
| 11:06.13 | k-man1 | midg3t, oh, ok |
| 11:06.13 | k-man1 | thanks |
| 11:06.26 | midg3t | might be ntp-server. i know one depends on the other |
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| 11:06.29 | k-man1 | yeah, i want constant update |
| 11:06.30 | k-man1 | s |
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| 11:06.44 | [TACO] | liable: I have also noticed printer module is not there anymore |
| 11:06.59 | [TACO] | liable: and I specificly modulized USB Printer support |
| 11:07.24 | liable | [TACO]: you have a debian kernel on which this works? |
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| 11:07.53 | widrone | [TACO]: Is that 2.6.14 from source? What config you working from, is this stock debian kernel? |
| 11:08.27 | [TACO] | no, custom build, no configs |
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| 11:08.38 | [TACO] | it worked on 2.4.18 bf2 |
| 11:09.03 | [TACO] | even outputted a message when a USB device was plugged in |
| 11:09.37 | widrone | [TACO]: There is a bit off difference from 2.4 to 2.6. You got everything you needed in there? |
| 11:09.43 | streuner | dpkg, worked in 2.4 |
| 11:09.44 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
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| 11:10.43 | [TACO] | widrone: I checked everything in there, I will check again though. Most likely its something I missed, but I ran through all the USB support options, twice I may add |
| 11:11.02 | d3bian | does anyone knows how to config linksys wireless router in sarge 3.1 |
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| 11:11.16 | widrone | [TACO]: Maybe the module is not loading even you have compiled it. Yes go thru it again perhapps. |
| 11:11.28 | liable | wtf does a router config have to do with sarge? |
| 11:11.29 | Tidus | d3bian: ya... fire up a web browser and point it at the router's ip address |
| 11:11.41 | [TACO] | modprobe cannot find printer.o either, but thats probably something stupid, gonna try it again |
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| 11:11.56 | [TACO] | nope .ko doesn't work either |
| 11:11.59 | d3bian | tried that already , mothin comes out |
| 11:12.17 | liable | d3bian: then contact lynksys. |
| 11:12.20 | widrone | [TACO]: Im a tree hugger, no use poking me with printer questions. =) Good luck! |
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| 11:12.38 | abraxxa_ | d3bian: can you ping the linksys router? |
| 11:12.49 | d3bian | I had it running in freebsd, now I came back to debian, by the way linksys told me they dont support the linux os, THOSE f!@$#ots |
| 11:13.02 | d3bian | no @ abraxxa |
| 11:13.08 | liable | d3bian: um, are you even connected to it? (meaning you have an ip from it?) |
| 11:13.12 | k-man1 | thanks for your help guys |
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| 11:13.36 | liable | d3bian: linux has nothing to do with the router. |
| 11:13.39 | d3bian | no @ liable |
| 11:13.50 | widrone | d3bian: Its a router, it just needs to support TCP/IP really. |
| 11:13.57 | liable | d3bian: then you need to get your iface working. |
| 11:14.03 | The_Vulture | Well it just needs to support IP if it's a real router. |
| 11:14.11 | The_Vulture | If you're talking NATing router, then you'ret alking TCP. |
| 11:14.35 | d3bian | i see what u saying liable , buyt there has to be a way in which the system has to have the hardware\s drivers in order for it to work |
| 11:14.42 | d3bian | cuz thats how i did it in BSD |
| 11:14.53 | d3bian | I flashed it with a firmware |
| 11:15.03 | liable | d3bian: yes, you need to get your nic configured... |
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| 11:15.13 | widrone | The_Vulture: I hear the support for both is pretty awesome in debian! :) Thanks for making a presice point. |
| 11:15.30 | d3bian | the problem openwrt's buildroot's frinware is no longer supported |
| 11:15.56 | The_Vulture | widrone: Yeah, don't mind me - just came in randomly & I was bored :) |
| 11:16.19 | d3bian | i checked the cvs version , but its all out of wack it hasnt been maintained |
| 11:16.28 | liable | d3bian: listen to this.. IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE ROUTER, you need to get your nic configured. |
| 11:16.54 | liable | d3bian: does it do dhcp? |
| 11:16.56 | d3bian | alright sounds like a good idea |
| 11:16.59 | d3bian | let me give it a swing |
| 11:17.08 | d3bian | yep it does @ liable |
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| 11:17.25 | [TACO] | liable: this may take a while, some of the new options are built in only :P |
| 11:17.31 | liable | d3bian: and 'ifconfig -a' outputs what? |
| 11:17.51 | d3bian | I thought it shuld be as simple as having dhcp daemaon run and the kernel load up the drivers and BOOM thats it |
| 11:17.56 | d3bian | but thathas not been the case |
| 11:17.59 | liable | d3bian: btw you dont need the @ to address people here. |
| 11:18.04 | [TACO] | I forgot, it won't because half the things are already made |
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| 11:18.59 | d3bian | thank for the info |
| 11:19.10 | Mage\work | http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/818/cnn3as.jpg |
| 11:19.23 | abraxxa_ | snail: now i tried it from a box in the same lan i connected to with vnc and there it works all the time |
| 11:19.26 | [TACO] | liable: I think it was because I did not have hub.o or usb.o |
| 11:19.34 | Mage\work | CNN really needs a geographic atlas |
| 11:19.45 | abraxxa_ | now after doing that it works from over the firewall again without errors |
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| 11:20.00 | [TACO] | liable: that would explain it, since hub.c and usb.c were the output on the 2.4 kernel :P |
| 11:20.01 | liable | on a doughnut.. :) |
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| 11:20.12 | snail | abraxxa_: ok, so swap out the router/gateway and see if the problem goes away? |
| 11:20.21 | SimonRaven | hehehehehe |
| 11:20.27 | d3bian | exit |
| 11:20.36 | abraxxa_ | snail: problem is only on this box |
| 11:20.54 | abraxxa_ | all other (some debian too) boxes work |
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| 11:22.22 | SimonRaven | Mage\work: that's hilarious :D. |
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| 11:25.01 | [TACO] | liable: thanks, it seems to know what it is now |
| 11:25.15 | Mage\work | SimonRaven: indeed |
| 11:25.33 | [TACO] | it detected USB 1-1 |
| 11:25.57 | SimonRaven | talk about not knowing geography. sheesh. |
| 11:25.57 | jm_ | who cares about the frogs? /msg dpkg pebbas ;) |
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| 11:27.10 | [TACO] | jm_: all you need to do is kill the unresponsive processes, and the frog problem is over ;) |
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| 11:29.14 | bibe | liable : I tried rebooting with the new kernel (linux-source-2.6.14 package, built with 2.6.14-1-686 .config on a Debian sarge box), but the ipw2200 module fails to load (undefined symbol: ieee80211_wx_set_encodeext). I also compiled and installed ieee80211 and ipw2200 from vanilla sources, but no way... any suggestion? |
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| 11:29.56 | StuckMojo | anyone have experience configuring mono-apache-server? |
| 11:30.04 | StuckMojo | and libapache-mod-mono? |
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| 11:30.51 | SimonRaven | oh, let's make apache even more bloated =) |
| 11:30.55 | liable | bibe: unfortunately, no. |
| 11:30.57 | StuckMojo | i think the apache mod needs no additional configuration, but there's no example on how to configure the mono-apache-server...the README.Debian just tells you where to put th e config |
| 11:31.00 | djp | which is the better option under debian for mp3 to wav conversion, mp321 or madplay? |
| 11:31.01 | SimonRaven | s/oh/oh yeh/ |
| 11:31.17 | bibe | liable : no problem |
| 11:31.29 | StuckMojo | there's nothing about what it's contents are supposed to look like |
| 11:31.45 | [TACO] | liable: it now reads the printer as being there, now I just need to get the printer recognized |
| 11:31.49 | abraxxa_ | snail: since the connect from the box in the local lan all works perfect.... i don't get it |
| 11:31.52 | SimonRaven | StuckMojo: like any other DSO |
| 11:32.10 | liable | bibe: is 2.6.14 even compatible with sarge? in know it requires a new initrd proggy for sid. |
| 11:32.16 | liable | [TACO]: sweet |
| 11:32.20 | StuckMojo | the mono mod is being loaded: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) PHP/4.3.6 mod_mono/1.0 |
| 11:32.24 | SimonRaven | LoadModule /path/to/module/foo_bar.so then appropriate shit |
| 11:32.31 | SimonRaven | #apache |
| 11:32.41 | [TACO] | liable: same fight as before, but this time it detected the device. hp no_device_found |
| 11:32.52 | Guerin | djp: they should both produce more or less identical results |
| 11:32.53 | StuckMojo | the problem is with the "debianization" of mono-apache-server |
| 11:32.58 | [TACO] | and no idea what lpX it is :P |
| 11:33.22 | liable | [TACO]: oh well, getting closer.. :) |
| 11:33.24 | bibe | liable : yes, I am using a vanilla 2.6.14 w/ swsusp2 patch |
| 11:33.26 | [TACO] | liable: usually cups would come up with "hp:/usb/nameofprinter=serial |
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| 11:33.47 | djp | Guerin, is one ethically better to use or are both of them gnu/linux friendly? |
| 11:33.55 | SimonRaven | StuckMojo: if you have a problem with the packaging, then file a bug. we're not the BTS |
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| 11:34.12 | liable | bibe: with mkinitrd or compiled in modules? |
| 11:34.18 | StuckMojo | it's not that there's a bug, it's that the explaination of how to configure it is ultra thin |
| 11:34.55 | bobslaede | what config file holds the information on my current gnome/gtk theme? |
| 11:35.04 | SimonRaven | StuckMojo: that could be considered a bug. docs not sufficient |
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| 11:35.22 | SimonRaven | you could also google it ;) |
| 11:35.24 | StuckMojo | yeah. im just looking for someone who's got it working using the debian packages |
| 11:35.30 | bibe | liable : I just compiled it (the no-ipw2200 kernel) from linux-source-2.6.14 package to avoid installing yaird and thus upgrading libc6. And everything's compiled with modules, and uses initrd |
| 11:35.38 | honschu | Has anyone played "Myth II" on debian? |
| 11:35.39 | jm_ | bobslaede: it's versiond dependant ... |
| 11:35.40 | Guerin | djp: both are free software; one is a float implementation and one is an integer implementation |
| 11:36.13 | StuckMojo | i'll try in #apache |
| 11:36.16 | bibe | liable : my system works ok with that (2.6.14-1-686) kernel, it's only the ipw2200 support that's "broken" |
| 11:36.16 | StuckMojo | thanks anyway |
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| 11:36.19 | SimonRaven | StuckMojo: at this point i wouldn't be so specific; worry about that later when you get a clue about it |
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| 11:36.40 | SimonRaven | streuner: being debian-specific i mean |
| 11:36.41 | liable | bibe: errors with the source for ipw2200? |
| 11:36.45 | SimonRaven | bah |
| 11:36.49 | SimonRaven | streuner: sorry |
| 11:37.01 | bobslaede | jm_: hmm... in gnome 2.12? |
| 11:37.21 | bobslaede | my gnome is messed up, it all crashes, my theory goes that it is the theme |
| 11:37.32 | jm_ | bobslaede: that's really not GNOME related, but I suppose it uses GTK2 -- ls ~/.gtk* |
| 11:38.03 | [TACO] | liable: wicked: "Device URI: hp:/no_device_found" lol |
| 11:38.04 | bibe | liable : not with the source, and not even errors... it's a warning I get during make-kpkg compilation of those sources, the generated .deb installs ok, but the module won't load |
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| 11:39.24 | bobslaede | jm_: nope... this really sucks... |
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| 11:39.39 | liable | bibe: i dunno, read the readme's again and check for compile time options. |
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| 11:40.06 | darkl0rd | can i ask a question ? |
| 11:40.13 | liable | no |
| 11:40.17 | darkl0rd | lol |
| 11:40.19 | darkl0rd | y man? |
| 11:40.19 | liable | :) |
| 11:40.33 | Skrotto | Christ, why do people ask if they can ask? |
| 11:40.44 | darkl0rd | first time on this chan |
| 11:40.48 | Skrotto | hehe, just ask. |
| 11:41.03 | bibe | liable : ipw2200 support on a vanilla 2.6.14 kernel (which is what I'm using) works only after disabling ipw2200, ipw2100 and ieee80211 related configuration items during 'make menuconfig', and compiling ieee80211 and ipw2200 support with Debian *-source packages |
| 11:41.04 | darkl0rd | whick is the best linux? |
| 11:41.10 | liable | ... |
| 11:41.20 | darkl0rd | which is the best linux? |
| 11:41.34 | liable | freebsd? |
| 11:41.41 | Skrotto | darkl0rd: Well, you're in #debian. So most people would say that Debian is the best Linux distro. If thats what you mean. |
| 11:41.53 | darkl0rd | i dont know |
| 11:41.59 | darkl0rd | site to download? |
| 11:42.04 | Skrotto | www.debian.org |
| 11:42.22 | darkl0rd | suse is good? |
| 11:42.24 | bibe | darkl0rd : /topic |
| 11:43.08 | liable | darkl0rd: /j ##linux |
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| 11:44.25 | liable | bibe: i dont quite understand that last comment. (about using vanilla, then debian sources) |
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| 11:45.07 | widrone | !best |
| 11:45.07 | dpkg | best for what? please define what you mean by "best" Gloria Gaynor! Tina Turner! Aretha Franklin! Men without Hats! Women without Hats! Men at Work! Women at Play! Anyone for Tennis! |
| 11:45.18 | liable | bibe: oh, so you compile the kernel, the get module source for the modules from debian? |
| 11:46.42 | [TACO] | I have been fighting with this printer all night, I cannot get the damn cups to list it, and hplip or all the other hp stuff doesn't work either |
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| 11:47.23 | dob1 | recompiling the kernel, for an sempron 64bit processor, what i have to select ? |
| 11:48.20 | bibe | liable : yes, I get those sources to use make-kpkg and have a nice .deb. Are those modules' sources heavily patched? |
| 11:48.37 | liable | INSTALL_CLUE m/Y/N/? |
| 11:49.11 | liable | bibe: no idea, dont have any ardware that uses it. sorry. |
| 11:49.31 | bibe | liable : ok, I get it. Thank you |
| 11:49.46 | liable | bibe: that previous one wasnt for you... btw |
| 11:50.22 | bibe | liable : ok |
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| 11:51.08 | fireba11 | !wryc dob1 |
| 11:51.12 | fireba11 | hum ? |
| 11:51.16 | fireba11 | !wryc |
| 11:51.26 | liable | !wayc |
| 11:51.28 | liable | ;0 |
| 11:51.42 | fireba11 | err ^^ |
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| 11:51.55 | fireba11 | !wayc dob1 |
| 11:51.56 | dpkg | dob1: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 11:52.05 | liable | stupid shift key, new keyboard in mail,... |
| 11:52.06 | fireba11 | better ;-) |
| 11:52.15 | fireba11 | hehe |
| 11:52.30 | dob1 | fireba11, i wan to compile my kernel |
| 11:52.33 | dob1 | *want |
| 11:52.44 | fireba11 | and why would you think that is a good idea ? |
| 11:53.12 | dob1 | ok, it's different opinion, but my question was different :) |
| 11:53.16 | tarzeau | debian broke my mouse pointer. WHY IS IT WHITE WITH BLACK SILHOUETTE? |
| 11:54.13 | liable | after you compile one ten times, you make sure you actually read the docs to get it right :) |
| 11:54.34 | tarzeau | i don't want WINDOWS MOUSE POINTERS! |
| 11:54.40 | tarzeau | if i want them, i can take windows |
| 11:54.45 | tarzeau | DAMN |
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| 11:55.01 | tarzeau | this is a SUPER RC BUG |
| 11:55.36 | jm_ | tarzeau: you can change mouse cursor yourself |
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| 11:55.58 | tarzeau | jm_: for all users? |
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| 11:56.04 | tarzeau | jm_: i just want the default ones |
| 11:56.19 | jm_ | tarzeau: hmm I never looked how to do that for all users |
| 11:56.31 | tarzeau | but why was it changed? |
| 11:56.55 | jm_ | it hasn't changed for me on Sarge ;) |
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| 11:57.22 | tarzeau | jm_: it's black? what x version do you have and window manager? |
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| 11:59.04 | jm_ | tarzeau: no, it's white, you may have a point there, I never even noticed it was black before |
| 11:59.17 | Trewas | alternatives system has x-cursor-theme, core.theme is probably the old (black and ugly) one :) |
| 11:59.50 | tarzeau | jm_: only windows did it wrong. all the others (for example the most important, NeXT and OPENSTEP had it right); http://www.linuks.mine.nu/openstep/mousecursors.png |
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| 11:59.58 | tarzeau | s,right,black, |
| 12:00.01 | tarzeau | or beautiful |
| 12:00.23 | tarzeau | oh and amiga 1.3 also had beautiful mouse cursors |
| 12:00.31 | tarzeau | i've even redrawn them for x: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/amigashell/ |
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| 12:00.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, pcmcia is (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) Aside from winning the award for being the longest and most-annoying-to-pronounce technology acronym, PCMCIA is a credit card-sized interface card standard. PCMCIA cards are most commonly found in notebook computers. You'll usually find two slots on newer models. Two small slots can hold two Type I or II cards or one Type III card. Type III cards are usually ... |
| 12:00.59 | johaBBa | !dpkg wireless |
| 12:00.59 | dpkg | The Linux Wireless LAN resource page is at http://www.hpl.hp.com/personal/Jean_Tourrilhes/Linux |
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| 12:01.38 | [TACO] | liable: I somewhat narrowed it down |
| 12:01.56 | [TACO] | liable: I know whats returning no_device_found |
| 12:01.58 | jm_ | I think global change can be done with X resources |
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| 12:02.28 | [TACO] | liable: still willing to help? |
| 12:02.30 | tarzeau | that's a bad url since it has a space. right? "http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=24405 &item= 3595150264" |
| 12:02.42 | djp | Guerin, cheers for the answer. sorry, just had to disappear downstairs, so missed you initially. thanks again, as always |
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| 12:04.20 | [TACO] | Anyone here have an HP PSC series printer? |
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| 12:05.07 | jm_ | tarzeau: http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/X11_Cursors |
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| 12:06.02 | jm_ | tarzeau: or just do it with alternatives for system wide defaults |
| 12:06.16 | tarzeau | jm_: ok thank you |
| 12:06.20 | justin420 | taco: i have 2 of them, but i only use my hp psc 500 in linux... |
| 12:06.41 | jm_ | there are many more alternatives in Sarge, I last looked at that dir some 3 years ago, should do it more often |
| 12:06.50 | jm_ | thanks for pointing it out Trewas |
| 12:07.09 | tarzeau | Trewas: yes |
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| 12:08.01 | [TACO] | Justin: I keep getting an error when I try to check for the device |
| 12:08.17 | [TACO] | Justin: hpssd returns 3 lines, are you in #flood ? |
| 12:08.43 | justin420 | taco:nope |
| 12:08.59 | tarzeau | Trewas: i can't find core.theme there |
| 12:09.02 | [TACO] | guess I am not gonna paste it then :/ |
| 12:09.31 | [TACO] | this is rather irritating, hpssd says its connection was refused... but what is it connecting to!? |
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| 12:09.38 | djp | i am running debian 3.1 sarge (stable), do i need to apply security updates and if so how do i go about keeping my system up to date? i use aptitude to install new packages by the way... |
| 12:10.01 | [TACO] | aptitude? |
| 12:10.03 | pihhan | djp, you dont have to |
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| 12:10.09 | pihhan | but you SHOULD |
| 12:10.27 | yage | Hello, i need to monitor my server (performance, memory use and so on, possibly java process details) in a centralized way. Is there any mantained, open and good tool to do this? |
| 12:10.30 | pihhan | aptitude, pres u, pres g, you have it |
| 12:10.49 | pihhan | dont forget check that /etc/apt/sources.list contains it |
| 12:10.51 | tarzeau | Trewas: i can not find the so called ugly default x mouse cursors |
| 12:10.56 | djp | pihhan, ok, great. i was just reading the following http://lwn.net/Articles/159044/, and got slightly concerned |
| 12:11.55 | justin420 | tacoL i just followed the directions on linuxprinting.org and after playing with things for little bit, i got the scanning and printing to work... im a newbie so i doubt i can be of much help, sorry dude |
| 12:11.57 | Guerin | yage: ps and grep |
| 12:11.59 | djp | pihhan, sorry, /etc/apt/sources.list contains what exactly? |
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| 12:12.29 | yage | Guerin, i have 150 server ps is not what i mean |
| 12:12.32 | Xenguy | djp: a list of mirrors that you use to download new packages from |
| 12:12.44 | yage | Guerin, and, after all PS doesn't show anything about java vm details |
| 12:12.44 | [TACO] | Justin: yeah well, I did that as well but the problem is, I keep getting hpssd error |
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| 12:13.00 | djp | Xenguy, ah, i only use the default packages, so i shouldn't need to alter my sources.list i gather? |
| 12:13.29 | Xenguy | djp: NOTE: you should subscribe to the 'security-announce' mailing list (preferably from a couple of different email addresses even) -- that way you get an email whenever there is a security update you need to apply |
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| 12:13.57 | djp | Xenguy, thanks for the tip. i shall do that. |
| 12:14.38 | Xenguy | djp: if you run 'apt-setup' (backup /etc/apt/sources.list first), that should give you a fresh sources.list that you can compare with what you have now |
| 12:14.51 | justin420 | taco: all i can say is that i am using the hpoj, hpijs, cupssy and foomatic to do things, and things work.... i have never seen hpssd?? |
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| 12:15.06 | [TACO] | Justin: its the daemons |
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| 12:15.14 | [TACO] | hpiod and hpssd |
| 12:15.31 | tarzeau | crap the rfc says space (0x20) is allowed unencoded in URLs |
| 12:15.35 | tarzeau | retarded |
| 12:15.50 | Xenguy | djp: for stable it is as simple as doing (as root): apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 12:16.04 | justin420 | taco: i figured they were deamons of some sorta, as the d at the end, just saying ive never seen those on my box. |
| 12:16.28 | jm_ | tarzeau: I have core.theme in there |
| 12:17.18 | tarzeau | jm_: can you check to which package it belongs and what the absolute path to it is? |
| 12:17.20 | djp | Xenguy, thanks for the advice. |
| 12:17.21 | yage | Guerin, found, zabbix.com do the job |
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| 12:18.19 | Xenguy | djp: yw |
| 12:18.34 | jm_ | tarzeau: xlibs-data |
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| 12:19.48 | RichiH | is there a command line tool for netblock owner lookup? |
| 12:19.55 | petemc | RichiH: whois |
| 12:20.00 | jm_ | whois shall work |
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| 12:20.31 | Matyas | hi there ! |
| 12:20.37 | brosioz | exista a reposiotry for realplayer 10 ? |
| 12:20.48 | jm_ | brosioz: check Marillat's one |
| 12:20.51 | Matyas | I got a nforce motherboard but i cant seem to come right with me graphics settings |
| 12:21.00 | brosioz | jm_, not :° |
| 12:21.00 | [TACO] | Justin: do you remember where you got your ppd file from? |
| 12:21.06 | RichiH | petemc: duh |
| 12:21.09 | petemc | :) |
| 12:21.18 | RichiH | petemc: i think i never, ever in my life whois'ed an ip |
| 12:21.19 | brosioz | found |
| 12:21.20 | brosioz | :D |
| 12:21.28 | jm_ | brosioz: wrong, he has it |
| 12:21.45 | brosioz | yes yes sorry |
| 12:21.47 | brosioz | thx |
| 12:21.47 | justin420 | taco: yeah dude, from linuxprinting.org :) |
| 12:21.53 | brosioz | wrong string using apt-cache |
| 12:22.12 | dimm0k | i have gaim and aol aim under wine and file transfers does not work.... however aol aim under regular windows does work when i dual boot... this machine is behind a linux firewall... anyone have any clues? |
| 12:22.19 | [TACO] | Justin: I cannot find the one there, I located one though for my exact model |
| 12:22.26 | SimonRaven | RichiH: i'd suggest -H, stops a lot of the whois spamming of your term |
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| 12:22.30 | mynullvoid | hi all |
| 12:22.42 | justin420 | taco: want me to copy/paste on pastebin or something for ya? |
| 12:22.57 | RichiH | richih@laptop ~ % alias whois |
| 12:22.57 | RichiH | whois='whois -H' |
| 12:23.03 | RichiH | ;) |
| 12:23.10 | SimonRaven | aah :) |
| 12:23.24 | RichiH | SimonRaven: i don't like to think about doing -H all the time :p |
| 12:23.32 | RichiH | whois is spammy enough as it is |
| 12:23.38 | SimonRaven | i know what you mean :) |
| 12:23.41 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 12:23.56 | RichiH | what /me would love is if whois would return with error codes when it does not find a domain name |
| 12:25.02 | brosioz | i can't hear sound playing .3gp files anyone could help ? i've alredy try with realplayer and vlc... |
| 12:25.17 | justin420 | taco: what hp model you looking for anyway? |
| 12:25.19 | petemc | brosioz: get more up to date codecs, works fine for me |
| 12:25.29 | SimonRaven | instead it just sits there. and you have to deduce what 'not found' means. can mean either really non-existent, or just wrong whois server... |
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| 12:25.46 | RichiH | SimonRaven: yah |
| 12:25.58 | brosioz | petemc, ehich codecs ? |
| 12:26.02 | RichiH | SimonRaven: in most cases, i just like to know if it exists or not |
| 12:26.11 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 12:26.15 | petemc | brosioz: its a quicktime thing, i think |
| 12:26.34 | mynullvoid | brosioz: check your codec or your speaker ;) |
| 12:26.37 | petemc | brosioz: the w32codecs package seems to give me all i need |
| 12:27.05 | brosioz | petemc, ialredy have w32codecs but don't works :| |
| 12:27.23 | SimonRaven | been working on getting the packaging on some stuff here just right, and the patches i need to apply, and be clean.... been at it for like 4-5 days, doing almost nothing but that, 10+ hours a day. starting to get fed up with it |
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| 12:27.58 | brosioz | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.07 | brosioz | version of w32codec |
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| 12:28.20 | SimonRaven | well, learned a few things, and how to get this done right, so it wasn't time wasted, and i get fresh new .debs in the process |
| 12:28.45 | imex | can someone point me to which lib is suppose to be (n)curses? |
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| 12:29.01 | SimonRaven | libncurses5 |
| 12:29.06 | liable | -dev |
| 12:29.11 | imex | it says to compile stuff, just the lib packages not enough |
| 12:29.20 | imex | what do i do? |
| 12:29.28 | mynullvoid | imex: can apt-cache show <package name> help you? |
| 12:29.30 | SimonRaven | add what liable said to what i said |
| 12:29.35 | jm_ | imex: /msg dpkg menuconfig |
| 12:29.40 | Never^ | A quickie... what's the status on x.org in debiano? |
| 12:29.49 | [TACO] | justin420: nah, the site failed to make it work |
| 12:29.59 | [TACO] | justin420: the linuxprinting.org that is |
| 12:30.05 | imex | k i am a newbie to lib stuff to linux |
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| 12:30.21 | imex | i have a tv card and try to insatll xawtv |
| 12:30.30 | mynullvoid | Never^: you are asking us a very complex question |
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| 12:30.40 | Never^ | no not really |
| 12:30.47 | mynullvoid | define status |
| 12:30.49 | [TACO] | justin420: My sole problem is figuring out why HPSSD is failing, and what is it trying to connect to |
| 12:30.50 | Never^ | is it in unstable yet? |
| 12:30.51 | imex | when make, the error - Oops: (n)curses library not found. You need this one, please install. |
| 12:30.51 | imex | Note: to compile stuff just the library packages are not enougth, |
| 12:30.52 | imex | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:30.52 | imex | make: *** [arch-i686-linux/Makefile] Error 1 |
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| 12:31.00 | Never^ | or testing |
| 12:31.06 | liable | holy shit, watching a program on surgery, there using drills, hammers, screwdrivers.. *shudder* |
| 12:31.18 | Never^ | no chissels? |
| 12:31.20 | justin420 | taco: i had to add my printer as a "other type of printer" in kde with debian, to get everything to work right; so if that matters at to ya cool... sorry then man goo luck. |
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| 12:31.25 | imex | *package manager |
| 12:31.30 | mynullvoid | Never: maybe google can answer |
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| 12:31.41 | davor | hey, how do i install firefox 1.5 from apt-get? |
| 12:31.42 | mynullvoid | imex: you need the dev |
| 12:31.46 | Matyas | didnt you know ----> <liable> |
| 12:31.54 | mynullvoid | davor: apt-get install firefox |
| 12:32.18 | davor | mynullvoid: that only installs the current 1.0.x version |
| 12:32.31 | liable | Matyas: yeah, ive seen hip replacements and stuff, but it always amazes me the shit they use. |
| 12:32.36 | mynullvoid | davor: is't in experiment tree? |
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| 12:32.42 | imex | mynullvoi:i will try look |
| 12:32.54 | davor | mynullvoid: nm, i found a source. :-) |
| 12:33.00 | Matyas | liable: they are butchers man |
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| 12:33.21 | mynullvoid | davor: you can package a deb from the source, or use alien to convert from other bin |
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| 12:33.45 | Never^ | well mynullvoid i don't have access to port 80 that's why im asking here |
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| 12:33.49 | [TACO] | wow |
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| 12:34.01 | [TACO] | unable to open /var/run/hplip/hpssd.port: No such file or directory: prnt/hpijs/hplip_api.c 94 |
| 12:34.11 | [TACO] | and this is after a locate |
| 12:34.14 | [TACO] | /var/run/hplip/hpssd.port |
| 12:34.36 | justin420 | taco: try using the hpoj then maybee??? |
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| 12:34.57 | [TACO] | justin420: it needs to find the device first |
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| 12:35.16 | [TACO] | and I already tried to run hpoj, even the setup, but it reports all devices are not existing |
| 12:35.39 | mynullvoid | Never^: ask dpkg about get xorg |
| 12:36.15 | Never^ | never mind |
| 12:36.18 | mynullvoid | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 12:36.26 | antgel | we have the opportunity to migrate a customer from windows to linux throughout. about 25 machines, one or two servers. i'm thinking, migrate the workstations first? the reason being that they have outlook etc running with exchange etc, and i think the linux groupware clients play better with the closed source server than outlook playing with an open source groupware server? |
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| 12:37.22 | EmleyMoor | Can I downgrade mysql on sarge without losing the data therein? |
| 12:37.23 | mynullvoid | antgel: is't a question? |
| 12:37.33 | antgel | mynullvoid: eh? |
| 12:37.39 | tarzeau | antgel: and what will you migrate them exactly? which software? |
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| 12:37.49 | tarzeau | antgel: won't they be missing calendar stuff? |
| 12:37.56 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 12:37.59 | mynullvoid | EmleyMoor: you mean downgrade mysql version ? |
| 12:38.07 | jeanjacques | how can i know what is my fully qualified name ? |
| 12:38.10 | antgel | tarzeau: i'm thinking kde / kontact or gnome / evolution |
| 12:38.17 | EmleyMoor | Yes - to the older one in sarge |
| 12:38.24 | mynullvoid | I heard about openxchange |
| 12:38.28 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: hostname -f |
| 12:38.36 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: ok |
| 12:38.37 | tarzeau | antgel: good luck :) |
| 12:38.44 | antgel | mynullvoid: we prefer opengroupware for a groupware server |
| 12:38.54 | antgel | tarzeau: you mean, in a sarcastic way? ;) |
| 12:38.55 | tarzeau | antgel: after the deployment, you'll go far away? holidays and never be back to that office? |
| 12:39.03 | tarzeau | antgel: heh, what else :) |
| 12:39.08 | antgel | tarzeau: hey, they will be paying us |
| 12:39.17 | tarzeau | antgel: before or after? |
| 12:39.18 | EmleyMoor | To 4.0 when 4.1 is currently installed |
| 12:39.22 | antgel | tarzeau: both :) |
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| 12:39.28 | tarzeau | antgel: you know, not even mac os x with microsoft products can replace windows here |
| 12:39.28 | MrParity | hi ho :-) |
| 12:39.29 | petemc | openxchange is an absolute bollocks to set up |
| 12:39.35 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: ok this command is readeing the file /etc/hosts but i would like to know how to define my fully qualified hostname properly |
| 12:39.47 | tarzeau | antgel: it just doesn't work with some documents, from outside |
| 12:40.00 | antgel | tarzeau: what do you mean "even" mac os? is that meant to be good or something? |
| 12:40.04 | tarzeau | petemc: and opengroupware.org has quirks here and there |
| 12:40.13 | petemc | kolab is easy to set up.. |
| 12:40.28 | antgel | tarzeau: true, but we know it well now and it has great expandability |
| 12:40.32 | tarzeau | antgel: mac os x is very nice. but running microsoft or adobe pdf products on it, just sucks, if you need either microsoft or adobe software, dont' get anything but windows |
| 12:40.32 | petemc | hula seemed pretty useless when i looked at it 6 months ago, too |
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| 12:40.53 | tarzeau | antgel: then go for it, just try it for 5 people first though, for a month (pick powerusers) |
| 12:40.56 | MrParity | ALL: i installed debian on an usb stick and now i want tu update the kernel (2.6.14 vanilla). i need to use initrd to start form the stick, right? |
| 12:41.00 | tarzeau | antgel: and one lame user |
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| 12:41.03 | antgel | tarzeau: think you're missing the point. we want to migrate them *away* from windows :) |
| 12:41.12 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: man hostname |
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| 12:41.23 | imex | any other way to install the (n)curses devel package? |
| 12:41.24 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: thank you |
| 12:41.24 | antgel | tarzeau: yes, i had the idea of giving one or two people a pilot box |
| 12:41.29 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: i'm not sure what your problem is |
| 12:41.46 | gasher | any suggestion on how to watch preview from amule? |
| 12:41.50 | EmleyMoor | Can I downgrade mysql from 4.1 to 4.0 without losing the data in it? |
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| 12:41.51 | tarzeau | antgel: subtract the linux fan users |
| 12:42.09 | tarzeau | antgel: and i'm eager to hear what your results are |
| 12:42.24 | tarzeau | imex: sure, apt-cache search curses dev |
| 12:42.32 | nathan__ | which pacakage does Gaim depend on to display images , i presume its gtk something ? |
| 12:42.56 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: i have a computer debian stable inside a lan, its ip is 192.168.5.10 the name of this computer is hulk (when i type hostname inside the shell it's returning hulk) on this server i have a bind running for a website called mywebsite.com |
| 12:42.56 | antgel | tarzeau: *grin* me too. they are a charity so very interested in reducing costs unlike your typical business which thinks nothing of spending money on a fish tank embedded in the floor |
| 12:43.16 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: what says hostname -f ? |
| 12:43.23 | antgel | tarzeau: we are likely to document our experiences in a white paper |
| 12:43.35 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: you want to call it hulk.mywebsite.com for fqdn. got dns or not for your own lan? |
| 12:43.48 | tarzeau | antgel: our stuff is public too: nic.phys.ethz.ch |
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| 12:43.55 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: hostname -f returning hulk.produnet |
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| 12:44.11 | tarzeau | antgel: and with pdf and office documents we always have problems. and hp printers have broken firmware |
| 12:44.20 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: then you did configure your comptuer wrong |
| 12:44.22 | imex | any other way to install the (n)curses devel package? |
| 12:44.27 | MrParity | ... so my problem is, that i got a kernel panic while booting 2.6.14, because /dev/console isn't there - the system told me |
| 12:44.35 | awormus | how do I list all packages on my server? |
| 12:44.37 | tarzeau | imex: can you not read? stop repeating |
| 12:44.43 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: but my dns server is running properly |
| 12:44.46 | tarzeau | awormus: installed or available? |
| 12:44.48 | imex | sorry i must missed |
| 12:45.00 | imex | gotcha |
| 12:45.11 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: well still it's a problem of configuration. not necessarily the dns server |
| 12:45.13 | antgel | tarzeau: is that a joombla site? |
| 12:45.25 | Anthro | I am trying to use a kubuntu liveCD to rebuild my boot drive. Is there a way to make apt-get use a different root much the way dpkg --root works? |
| 12:45.28 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: how can i configure my computer my properly, what should i read ? |
| 12:45.29 | tarzeau | antgel: what's joombla? |
| 12:45.29 | Trewas | tarzeau: sorry I was away for a while... but anyway core.theme seems to come in package xlibs-data and is present my two debian boxes, one is sarge and one has X from experimental |
| 12:45.39 | awormus | playing with dselect now |
| 12:45.41 | jm_ | Anthro: chroot |
| 12:45.44 | tarzeau | jeanjacques: in /etc/hosts you can have ip fqdn alias. man 5 hosts |
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| 12:46.02 | antgel | tarzeau: the fork of mambo |
| 12:46.15 | tarzeau | Trewas: thank, i just didn't find it at first. /etc/X11/cursors/core.theme |
| 12:46.22 | tarzeau | antgel: i don't think we have that. no |
| 12:46.29 | Anthro | jm_: No, chroot won't do it. The system on the drive is missing too many files, and won't run any programs. |
| 12:46.37 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: ok so i go to read the man hostname one more time |
| 12:46.45 | jeanjacques | tarzeau: thanks for your heko |
| 12:46.55 | jm_ | Anthro: that's what dpkg does |
| 12:47.29 | Anthro | jm_: dpkg --root=whatever does a chroot? |
| 12:47.36 | imex | tarzeau : typed the command apt thingie and when i 'make' it says i am missing the dev package |
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| 12:47.40 | jm_ | Anthro: yes, before it runs the scripts |
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| 12:47.48 | IO80 | hi all!!! |
| 12:47.58 | Anthro | jm_: Well, crap. |
| 12:48.06 | stylish | hi IO80 |
| 12:48.21 | imex | tarzeauv : any idea? |
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| 12:49.50 | IO80 | do someone use preseed file for debian installing? |
| 12:49.50 | Anthro | jm_: Okay, so I need a different tack. Right now I can't chroot into it at all. # chroot /dev/hda |
| 12:49.50 | Anthro | chroot: cannot change root directory to /dev/hda: Not a directory |
| 12:49.57 | Anthro | jm_: Gah, sorry, wrong lines. |
| 12:49.57 | IO80 | I would modify partitioning part... |
| 12:50.05 | jm_ | Anthro: specify a mount point, not device file |
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| 12:50.08 | antgel | Anthro: um, are you supposed to chroot to a device? |
| 12:50.09 | Anthro | jm_: # chroot /mnt/hda |
| 12:50.10 | Anthro | chroot: cannot run command `/bin/bash': No such file or directory |
| 12:50.24 | jm_ | Anthro: right, so populate it first and then reinstall packages? |
| 12:50.40 | imex | i m about to give up on this |
| 12:50.46 | Anthro | jm_: "populate"? |
| 12:50.52 | IO80 | anyone? |
| 12:50.58 | jm_ | Anthro: put the needed files in place |
| 12:51.00 | Anthro | jm_: /mnt/hda/bin/bash works. |
| 12:51.07 | Anthro | jm_: I don't know what's broken. |
| 12:51.11 | tarzeau | imex: apt-get install libncurses5-dev |
| 12:51.19 | jm_ | Anthro: yes, but's probably missing some libs or somesuch |
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| 12:51.31 | jm_ | Anthro: busybox-static is useful |
| 12:51.40 | tarzeau | imex: with free software, there is no reason to give up |
| 12:51.40 | Anthro | jm_: What is busybox-static? |
| 12:51.47 | jm_ | Anthro: apt-cache show busybox-static |
| 12:51.52 | awormus | tarzeau, I figured it out |
| 12:52.12 | omry|work | I am trying to write a small C program that uses inotify. according to inotify.txt, there is an init_inotify call, but I grepped the entire kernel source tree and didn't find it anywhere... where is it? |
| 12:52.17 | Anthro | jm_: Okay, that's great, but how do I get it installed? |
| 12:52.25 | omry|work | (kernel 2.6.13) |
| 12:52.39 | jm_ | Anthro: just copy it somewhere in /mnt/hda - say /mnt/hda/var/tmp will do for now |
| 12:52.51 | imex | tarzeau : apt-get install libncurses5-dev, it says couldn't find package libncurses5-dev |
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| 12:53.25 | markit | hi :) after the last apt-get dist upgrade, my sound card does not work anymore (at least in kde), I suspect is a udev issue.. any idea? debian sid here |
| 12:53.55 | IO80 | do someone know partman? |
| 12:54.03 | jm_ | omry: you won't call it directly |
| 12:54.40 | omry|work | jm_, why not? |
| 12:55.12 | jm_ | omry|work: because you call it via glibc |
| 12:55.28 | antgel | markit: if you're using sid, you should know where to start looking |
| 12:55.33 | systray` | i can't install any another modules for apache 2.0 under debian, because apxs fails |
| 12:55.36 | imex | tarzeau : I want to learn more but need to know if it actually works and I spent 5 days on the same box without any luck |
| 12:56.11 | omry|work | jm_, isn't it a system call? |
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| 12:56.30 | IO80 | can someone help me? |
| 12:56.33 | systray` | how i can install apxs with apache, fetched by aptitude? |
| 12:56.41 | jm_ | omry|work: it is, but you don't call it directly, you go via glibc wrapper, i.e. like shown here -- http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/rml/inotify/headers/inotify-syscalls.h |
| 12:56.50 | saloxin | any simple webbased "measure your network speed to this host" available in debian? |
| 12:56.50 | jeanjacques | inside my hosts file i have this 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost |
| 12:56.56 | jeanjacques | is it correct ? |
| 12:57.11 | saloxin | systray`: install apache-dev |
| 12:57.15 | jeanjacques | because it's not the same as it's described in the debian bible |
| 12:57.16 | systray` | thanks |
| 12:57.20 | omry|work | jm_, thanks for the link. |
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| 12:57.53 | IO80 | --->http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/example-preseed.txt<--- i would make a new scheme partitioning: 350MB for / and the rest for /var... how can I do? |
| 12:58.04 | Anthro | jm_: Okay, I got busybox installed and I can run it as sh in a chroot. What does this win me? |
| 12:58.11 | saloxin | systray`: you can always search for such on http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 12:58.17 | jeanjacques | IO80: you may try f2sck |
| 12:58.24 | markit | antgel: thank for the help |
| 12:58.26 | systray` | apxs:Error: file mod_evasive20.c is not a DSO <-- wtf |
| 12:58.33 | jm_ | Anthro: now try to start bash in it |
| 12:58.35 | nepali | hi all... my debian system doesnot autodetect flash drives.. how do i acheive that? |
| 12:59.09 | antgel | markit: i trust that isn't sarcasm |
| 12:59.17 | Anthro | jm_: / # /bin/bash |
| 12:59.17 | Anthro | sH4: /bin/bash: not found |
| 12:59.26 | takatumi | jeanjacques: long thread here, http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg01063.html |
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| 12:59.42 | jeanjacques | thanks takatumi |
| 12:59.48 | Anthro | jm_: grrrr. Stupid nick completion. That's sh, not sH4 |
| 12:59.55 | omry|work | jm_, what should I include? I can't find init_inotify in /usr/include. |
| 13:00.01 | antgel | Anthro: stupid nicks ;) |
| 13:00.05 | jm_ | Anthro: does file work? |
| 13:00.07 | markit | antgel: trust whatever you want |
| 13:00.11 | sH4 | -; sH4 ; me ? |
| 13:00.20 | Anthro | jm_: No. |
| 13:00.21 | jm_ | omry|work: yes, that's because you need glibc with those headers |
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| 13:00.55 | Anthro | jm_: No. |
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| 13:01.34 | sH4 | it`s me ? called stupid nick sH4 |
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| 13:01.47 | Anthro | jm_: file from outside the chroot says it is a proper executable. Of course, as I mentioned, I can run the bash executable from outside the chroot. |
| 13:02.02 | jm_ | Anthro: is ld.so there? |
| 13:02.11 | omry|work | jm_, "apt-cache search glibc dev" returned nothing relevant. care to hint me in the right direction? |
| 13:02.17 | Anthro | jm_: Where should it be? |
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| 13:02.23 | systray` | how is the src/modules dir for apache2, i want to recompile new modules |
| 13:02.27 | systray` | ? |
| 13:02.29 | jm_ | Anthro: /lib |
| 13:02.40 | AntiProxy | hi everyone |
| 13:03.07 | Anthro | jm_: Yes, but it is a broken symlink. ld-2.3.5.so is missing. |
| 13:03.48 | jm_ | omry|work: it has been added to glibc on Aug 16th |
| 13:03.53 | jm_ | Anthro: there you go |
| 13:04.01 | systray` | how is the src/modules dir for apache2, i want to recompile new modules |
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| 13:04.18 | jm_ | Anthro: it's not a symlink on my system |
| 13:04.19 | Anthro | jm_: Ahhhhhh. I copied the ld-2.3.5.so from kubuntu into /mnt/hda/lib and now I can run things. Yay! |
| 13:04.33 | Anthro | jm_: No? file /lib/ld.so.1 |
| 13:05.07 | jm_ | Anthro: no such file - but ld-linux is a symlink |
| 13:05.21 | Anthro | jm_: Odd. I wonder if it's a PPC thing. |
| 13:05.49 | AntiProxy | a quick one guys.. i have a debian sarge box with both sarge and sid sources defined, i also set ' APT::Default-Release "sarge"; ' in apt.conf, yet apt-get upgrade seems to fetch all the packages from the sid feed.. last time i mixed sources this arrangment worked just fine, and sid packages got installed only when i specifically used -t unstable switch. |
| 13:06.02 | jm_ | heh I have some very old ld.so file, it's obviously handled differently these days |
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| 13:06.15 | omry|work | jm_, what do you mean? |
| 13:06.23 | jm_ | or rather, it uses ld-linux so it's OK |
| 13:06.31 | jm_ | omry|work: with what? |
| 13:06.36 | Anthro | AntiProxy: does your sources.list reference sid and sarge or unstable and testing? |
| 13:06.44 | AntiProxy | Anthro: sarge and sid |
| 13:07.04 | jeanjacques | takatumi: ok so instead of 127.0.0.1localhost.localdomainlocalhost can i use 127.0.0.1 localhost ? |
| 13:07.11 | omry|work | jm_, about inotifty added to glibc in aug 16th. how is that helping me figure out where to get the correct headers? |
| 13:07.19 | AntiProxy | Anthro: deb http://172.16.4.100:9999/debian/ sarge main non-free contrib \ deb http://172.16.4.100:9999/security sarge/updates main contrib non-free \ deb http://172.16.4.100:9999/debian/ sid main |
| 13:07.24 | Anthro | AntiProxy: Try using stable and unstable instead of sarge and sid. |
| 13:07.31 | antgel | AntiProxy: um, you know that this kind of thing is unsupported at best and system-hosing at |
| 13:07.44 | Anthro | AntiProxy: Sorry, try using stable in the Default-Release. |
| 13:07.44 | jm_ | omry|work: I mean what I said - glibc developers have added the headers to glibc CVS repository on that day |
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| 13:07.58 | Anthro | antgel: Say what? It's always worked well for me. |
| 13:08.10 | antgel | Anthro: great |
| 13:08.21 | Anthro | antgel: At least, with testing and unstable. I guess stable and unstable is kind of riskier. |
| 13:08.27 | AntiProxy | antgel: i've had a mix of sarge and sid for over a year.. till recently when sarge became stable, i cleaned up everything |
| 13:08.48 | AntiProxy | i just wanna give Gaim 1.5 a shot so i thought of trying this out |
| 13:08.54 | AntiProxy | anyway.. thanks for the tip Anthro |
| 13:09.16 | takatumi | jeanjacques: I've seen so many versions, didn't get to the bottom of that thread either, why do you want to change it though? |
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| 13:09.45 | jeanjacques | takatumi: i've readen all the thread but i'm not sure to have understand everything |
| 13:09.46 | Anthro | AntiProxy: It might work, but if you are on unstable you are much better off only having deb-src unstable lines and building your own packages for stable. Still risky, of course, but less so. |
| 13:09.52 | omry|work | jm_, sorry to ask newbie questions, you mean I should build glibc from cvs to get the headers? |
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| 13:10.07 | jeanjacques | takatumi: in fact i'm just looking for a way to define a fully qualified domain |
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| 13:11.20 | imex | omg |
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| 13:12.30 | imex | how to install the package download with deb extension |
| 13:12.44 | omry|work | imex, dpkg -i |
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| 13:13.40 | imex | omry|work : thanks, also found it in k-package |
| 13:13.49 | antgel | !tell imex about reference |
| 13:14.04 | drmay | I need the installer to recognize my SATA hd, how can i build a installer with a customized kernel? |
| 13:14.25 | omry|work | !tell omry|work about reference |
| 13:14.53 | imex | omg now i need to get jpeg library |
| 13:14.56 | imex | lolx |
| 13:15.30 | antgel | !tell omry|work -about msg the bot |
| 13:15.41 | tarzeau | imex: you have sarge? |
| 13:15.46 | imex | yes |
| 13:15.47 | omry|work | antgel, I know. was just lazy. |
| 13:15.48 | omry|work | :) |
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| 13:16.14 | imex | 31r0a |
| 13:16.25 | antgel | omry|work: if you were lazy, you'd msg the bot - less keys :) |
| 13:16.41 | yxa | how do i tell which modules i can modprobe? |
| 13:17.03 | antgel | yxa: find /lib/modules/`uname -r` |
| 13:17.09 | omry|work | antgel, okay. you convinced me. next time. |
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| 13:17.37 | yxa | antgel nice. thanks |
| 13:18.41 | imex | its getting better but more libs needed lolx |
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| 13:19.24 | imex | i think i will start searching for my C book soon lolx |
| 13:19.33 | antgel | !tell imex -about lol |
| 13:19.41 | imex | hahaha |
| 13:19.49 | antgel | that's more like it |
| 13:19.57 | imex | now this thing keep asking for all the devel packages |
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| 13:20.13 | imex | i am actually laughing and having my coffee |
| 13:20.19 | antgel | drmay: have you tried booting the installer in 2.6? |
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| 13:21.58 | imex | i did reinstall 5 times on this box |
| 13:22.08 | imex | with almost every distro there is |
| 13:22.18 | imex | so far Debian is the best |
| 13:22.20 | Anthro | imex: Actually, I'm doing a rescue |
| 13:22.26 | imex | at least i can talk |
| 13:22.53 | imex | omg a rescue ... crossing my finger* hope i dont need one soon |
| 13:23.05 | [TACO] | When sharing a printer on a network using samba, where do I place the printer drivers? |
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| 13:23.22 | Anthro | imex: Yeah, well, shit happens. Note to self, don't ignore big, bold warnings. |
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| 13:24.03 | antgel | Anthro: you need to write that note as a big, bold warning :) |
| 13:24.27 | imex | i think he needs the screen back to 640x480 |
| 13:24.33 | antgel | [TACO]: have you read the samba docs? some of the best software docs i've read |
| 13:24.33 | imex | to READ muhahahahaha |
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| 13:25.13 | imex | i have to make myself laugh or i fell asleep, its 8am and i havent slept yet |
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| 13:25.28 | Roxport | is there a way i an lock the computer if I'm only logged in to debian in text mode? |
| 13:25.40 | imex | i think i finally got something going on ut lots of warning |
| 13:25.40 | Douglas77 | Roxport: apt-get install vclock iirc |
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| 13:25.47 | yxa | modprobe: Can't locate module zaptel |
| 13:25.54 | Roxport | Douglas77: thanks |
| 13:26.00 | Douglas77 | lockvc |
| 13:26.05 | [TACO] | antgel: haha |
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| 13:26.07 | Roxport | :) |
| 13:26.20 | Roxport | Douglas77: what's the iirc part? an argument? |
| 13:26.25 | antgel | [TACO]: er, i was being serious |
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| 13:27.12 | Vindevogel | Hi all, I just got a new server that has Apache2 installed. How can I enable https on it ? I think i need to generate my rsa key, but don't know how |
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| 13:28.11 | enveezee | !permasunday |
| 13:28.12 | dpkg | All days in #debian will remain Sunday until further notice. Unfortunately, outside #debian the world keeps turning, so you still have to get up and go to work. Welcome to PermaTardsday!, or http://www.lyricsfreak.com/m/morrissey/96007.html |
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| 13:29.01 | antgel | Vindevogel: it's not that obvious with apache2. first, read the docs in /usr/share/doc. second, read the docs on httpd.apache.org. third, google, i'm sure i've found a decent apache2 ssl sarge guide out there |
| 13:29.12 | toucan | why does my keyboard type \ instead of #? |
| 13:29.47 | Ryushin | Can 64 bit debian with the latest kernel, mount a 22.5 TB file system. Also, which file system would be best for something like this? XFS? I really thinkg Reiser4 would be the best for this kind of thing, but I won't impliment it yet until it's more proven. |
| 13:29.53 | antgel | toucan: because it's not configured properly. if you're in x, /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 13:30.24 | toucan | oh... i found it, keyboard was set to US instead of UK |
| 13:30.50 | antgel | enveezee: that explains it :) |
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| 13:31.19 | jeanjacques | what is host(5) ? |
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| 13:31.40 | toucan | ok.. my monitor should be able to go up to 1024x768 but debian only lets me go as high as 800x600, how can i change this? |
| 13:31.44 | Vindevogel | antgel: i looked on the internet, but there's no simple thing ... |
| 13:31.48 | enveezee | man 5 host |
| 13:32.17 | antgel | Vindevogel: there is. i've seen it myself. have you read both sets of docs as advised? |
| 13:32.36 | Vindevogel | No, I got several docs on my screen from internet .... |
| 13:32.37 | antgel | toucan: configure your x server properly. /msg dpkg drxx (again) |
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| 13:32.47 | toucan | ok, thanks :) |
| 13:32.47 | jeanjacques | enveezee: thank you |
| 13:32.57 | Vindevogel | antgel: but I think it's the rsa key |
| 13:33.01 | enveezee | jeanjacques: np it was obvious to me |
| 13:33.11 | antgel | Vindevogel: then i suggest you read them. how can you not read /usr/share/doc/<package-name> after installing a package? |
| 13:33.16 | Vindevogel | there's one doc describing it, but it uses the wrong dirs, as it is for apache 1.3 |
| 13:33.44 | ndee | hi there, when I do apt-get install php4, it installs everything but it won't execute PHP files, instead, it want to download the file. So I checked the modules.conf file, but there is the AddModule mod_php4.c missing, and when I add that line, it tells me: Cannot add module via name 'mod_php4.c': not in list of loaded modules. How can I solve this problem? |
| 13:33.50 | Vindevogel | antgel: because I'm a slackware user for most of the things ... things tend to work there without having to read half of the docs |
| 13:34.07 | jeanjacques | ndee: you need to install the apache lib for php |
| 13:34.33 | imex | toucan : I had the same problem, just because X starts with 24 (default), I had to edit the XF86Config-4 file to change default and add the |
| 13:34.38 | imex | resolution in manually |
| 13:34.40 | Ryushin | Is there a iSCSI server for linux yet? |
| 13:34.40 | ndee | jeanjacques: it's already installed. |
| 13:34.50 | imex | toucan : restart and it works |
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| 13:34.51 | enveezee | wtf is iSCSI? |
| 13:35.01 | antgel | Vindevogel: then perhaps you should go back to slackware. if you expect to get free support without making an effort yourself, i have nothing more to say |
| 13:35.29 | imex | slackware didnt work for me |
| 13:35.33 | Vindevogel | Hosting provider only allows debian, redhat and fedora |
| 13:36.10 | Ryushin | imex: SCSI blocks incased in TCP/IP packets. |
| 13:36.14 | jeanjacques | ndee: try to install apache-common |
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| 13:36.28 | enveezee | eww |
| 13:36.31 | ndee | jeanjacques: also already installed ;) |
| 13:36.38 | systray` | omega:~/mod_evasive# apxs -i -a -c mod_evasive20.c |
| 13:36.38 | systray` | gcc -DLINUX=22 -DEAPI -DTARGET="apache" -DHAVE_SET_DUMPABLE -DDB_DBM_HSEARCH=1 -DDEV_RANDOM=/dev/random -DUSE_HSREGEX -O1 -g -Wall -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -fPIC -DSHARED_MODULE -I/usr/include/apache-1.3 -c mod_evasive20.c |
| 13:36.38 | toucan | ok thanks |
| 13:36.44 | Ryushin | enveezee: I.e. a SAN. |
| 13:36.50 | systray` | its a module for apache 2.0 |
| 13:36.51 | systray` | but |
| 13:37.01 | systray` | he try to compile it for apache 1.x |
| 13:37.10 | systray` | where's the error? |
| 13:37.16 | imex | toucan |
| 13:37.17 | jeanjacques | ndee and this one libapache-mod-php4 ? |
| 13:37.29 | jeanjacques | ndee: don't forget to restart apache afterward |
| 13:37.31 | imex | toucan : did u get my input? |
| 13:38.03 | antgel | Vindevogel: my heart bleeds |
| 13:38.14 | ndee | jeanjacques: libapache-mod-php4 is also installed. I just made a updatedb and executed "locate mod_php4.c", somehow, I can't find it. |
| 13:38.44 | ndee | jeanjacques: I also restarted apache after each apt-get install |
| 13:38.54 | jeanjacques | ndee: i'm a newbie i'm afraid that i can't help you more than i did |
| 13:39.02 | imex | now i have another problem |
| 13:39.05 | ndee | jeanjacques: kk :) thanks anyway |
| 13:39.18 | systray` | good, i've found the problem |
| 13:39.23 | imex | since i m using Fox as web browser but cannot read Chinese |
| 13:39.34 | imex | any idea |
| 13:40.15 | enveezee | I use firefox too, and I cannot read chinese. but thats cause they taught english at my school |
| 13:40.26 | imex | :P |
| 13:40.43 | imex | i was gonna install Chinese version but i cant type chinese |
| 13:41.00 | [TACO] | antgel: I know you were being serious, hense why I didn't respond |
| 13:41.08 | enveezee | you just did type chinese |
| 13:41.09 | [TACO] | antgel: /var/lib/samba/printers |
| 13:41.19 | [TACO] | antgel: now all I need to find is what files go in there :D |
| 13:41.31 | enveezee | nothing like getting off work with a headache and having people confuse you :P |
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| 13:41.54 | enveezee | I am gonna get me some sleep today. I didnt sleep well yesturday |
| 13:41.57 | imex | omg i am killing this old pc |
| 13:42.19 | imex | only a 733 Celeron with 128 RAM and buit-in video/sound |
| 13:42.26 | imex | i m CRAZY |
| 13:42.27 | enveezee | only? |
| 13:42.43 | imex | yep and it runs good |
| 13:42.50 | imex | better than Windoze |
| 13:42.58 | enveezee | I got lots of pcs slower than that |
| 13:43.01 | imex | of course not as easy as XP |
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| 13:43.33 | enveezee | linux is real easy you're just brainwashed |
| 13:43.45 | imex | agree |
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| 13:43.57 | enveezee | its like me trying to use kde apps |
| 13:44.01 | enveezee | I just dont get it |
| 13:44.39 | imex | i had problem with mix of GNOME and KDS |
| 13:44.42 | imex | *KDE |
| 13:45.04 | imex | GNOME complains and I read something that they dont work well on the same X |
| 13:45.05 | enveezee | I currently use gnome-panel and nautilus on one system |
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| 13:45.54 | imex | i am using KDE only since it will be my first experience with X other than REDHAT 5/6 |
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| 13:46.05 | imex | over 5 years ago |
| 13:47.15 | imex | with the installation of rpm files by using alien, does it mean it will be available to all users? |
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| 13:47.57 | imex | or if I am totally off of understanding Alien/rpm |
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| 13:49.08 | ndee | how can it be that my modules.conf file is missing the AddModule mod_php4.c line? I de-and-reinstalled apache, but the browser still wants to download the php files. That Module line is the only line missing |
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| 13:49.55 | nathan__ | ndee, mod_php4.c ? |
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| 13:50.32 | wdamn | Hi, anybody know how can I see my cpu temperature |
| 13:50.39 | wdamn | ? |
| 13:50.43 | afd_ | hi! I wonder if anyone know a way to limit cpu usage (not cpu time) of processes on a per user level |
| 13:50.58 | nathan__ | wdamn, lmsensors |
| 13:51.03 | nathan__ | ors omthing close |
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| 13:51.53 | wdamn | nathan__: thanx |
| 13:51.58 | ndee | nathan_: yep, do I need that line, if I have LoadModule php4_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/libphp4.so? |
| 13:52.35 | nathan__ | ndee, nope u just need the .so and an 'AddType' line for .php |
| 13:52.48 | pureone | apt-cache search lmsensors only picks up 2 things :| no lmsensors |
| 13:53.04 | pureone | is it under a differnt name? |
| 13:53.25 | ndee | nathan_: I have that, I gonna check apachectl itself |
| 13:53.58 | takatumi | wdamn: if you're using acpi, check /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRM/temperature |
| 13:54.14 | pureone | ah lm-sensors |
| 13:54.36 | nathan__ | yeah you can acpi too :) |
| 13:55.03 | takatumi | imex: in most cases you are better off not mucking with alien/RPM. |
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| 13:56.23 | jeanjacques | which pop server would you recommend ? |
| 13:56.40 | zeeble | qpopper |
| 13:56.43 | jeanjacques | i'm looking for a simple one to install |
| 13:56.43 | nathan__ | jeanjacques, qpopper is ok for low volcume, courier-* is nice for larger volumes |
| 13:57.04 | jeanjacques | nathan_: ok thank you |
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| 13:57.24 | jeanjacques | nathan_: what do you consider as a low volume ? |
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| 13:57.59 | wdamn | takatumi: I've got acpi but not thermal_zone |
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| 13:58.17 | nathan__ | wdamn, 15,000 mailboxes is high volume :) |
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| 13:59.02 | nathan__ | cpu usage halfed with 15,000 mailboxes when i converted to using courier from qpopper |
| 13:59.03 | takatumi | wdamn: the module name is 'thermal' iirc, try loading it with modprobe if it ain't loaded. |
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| 13:59.39 | jeanjacques | nathan_: ok so for a few hundred i should go qpopper |
| 13:59.40 | druk | where can I get the information on creating a new distribution on debain for a particular language |
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| 14:00.14 | nathan__ | jeanjacques, should be fine yeah, depending on the spec of the machine and auth method |
| 14:00.31 | jeanjacques | ok thank you nathan_ |
| 14:00.51 | nathan__ | np |
| 14:01.00 | druk | I am coordinating Dzongkha Linux localization |
| 14:01.35 | jeanjacques | a last question, i have a domain foo.org what should i do to be able to receive mails at this adress foo.org ? do i need to install postfix or qpopper will be enough ? |
| 14:01.41 | ndee | nathan_: the php file still gets downloaded although I've set the AddType and the LoadModule line |
| 14:01.59 | petemc | jeanjacques: you need a mx record (preferable) or at least an A record |
| 14:02.13 | petemc | jeanjacques: and, of course, a mta |
| 14:02.19 | jeanjacques | petemc: this is already the dns server had been configured |
| 14:02.20 | wdamn | takatumi: thanx, now I've got it :) |
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| 14:02.30 | petemc | jeanjacques: so install exim or postfix |
| 14:02.32 | nathan__ | jeanjacques, mx + mta :) |
| 14:02.43 | jeanjacques | petemc: ok thank you |
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| 14:02.58 | ndee | how can I check which config file is used by apache? |
| 14:03.16 | nathan__ | ndee, did you install php4 and apache with apt? |
| 14:03.22 | petemc | nathan__: apache -V |
| 14:03.30 | ndee | nathan_: yep |
| 14:03.32 | petemc | gah |
| 14:03.37 | petemc | ndee: ^^^ |
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| 14:03.50 | nathan__ | what he said |
| 14:03.55 | ndee | :) |
| 14:04.13 | ndee | sooo weird, never had susch problems before. I had a custom installation before though but that was in another directory |
| 14:04.28 | nathan__ | chck you have /etc/apache(2)/conf.d/php4.conf also |
| 14:05.23 | ndee | nathan_: I also have that file, but it contains IfModule mod_php4.c, and I don't have that mod_php4.c entry in my modules.conf |
| 14:05.48 | ndee | buuuuuut I added the content from php4.conf anyway to the httpd.conf |
| 14:06.51 | ndee | how can I totally purge apache? Is apt-get remove enough? |
| 14:07.01 | nathan__ | dpkg --purge apache |
| 14:07.04 | Gathond | ndee: remove --purge |
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| 14:07.27 | ndee | kk, gonna do that |
| 14:07.30 | imex | holy, Bill Gates really copy a lot of stuff from Linux |
| 14:07.45 | cbr | why do debian people hate nvidia binary drivers? i mean they're the only thing that ACTUALLY WORKS with 3D applications.. so using Xorg's crappy drivers isn't actually a choice imho |
| 14:08.16 | nathan__ | cbr: i don't mind them personally |
| 14:08.16 | cbr | don't hate them because they are closed source, because that is just plain silly |
| 14:08.25 | nathan__ | they work, im happy |
| 14:08.27 | antgel | cbr: because they're non-free and a lot of people couldn't give a toss about 3d |
| 14:08.34 | cbr | nathan_: yeah but i read some blog on debian planet |
| 14:08.50 | nathan__ | some people have a problem with non-free software, it's kind of silly really |
| 14:09.06 | cbr | antgel: who cares if they're non-free? no user doesnt.. most of more experienced users use the Nvidia drivers anyway, because they're better |
| 14:09.06 | petemc | cbr: if people didnt have these ideals, there would be no debian, or free anything.. |
| 14:09.21 | cbr | petemc: i dont agree |
| 14:09.37 | petemc | cbr: so i notice, thankfully it doesnt really matter what you think |
| 14:09.38 | cbr | having ideals and saying other ideals are crap, are two different things |
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| 14:09.42 | antgel | cbr: some people. how do you know most experienced users use nvidia drivers? do you have statistics or citations or are you just trolling? |
| 14:10.05 | antgel | nathan__: that's like saying it's silly to have a view on anything |
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| 14:10.08 | cbr | antgel: okay, let me rephrase.. everybody who plays games on linux uses the binary ones |
| 14:10.15 | nathan__ | antgel, each to their own :) |
| 14:10.46 | antgel | cbr: that's more than a rephrase. in your mind you were equating experienced users with game-players. |
| 14:10.57 | antgel | nathan__: precisely |
| 14:11.27 | antgel | one could argue that the more experienced a user gets, the less games he plays |
| 14:11.28 | cbr | antgel: when you get more performance with a driver, in my opinion it's better, isn't it? |
| 14:11.35 | ndee | antgel: false |
| 14:11.47 | nathan__ | cbr, yes |
| 14:11.53 | antgel | cbr: why are you asking me what your opinion is? |
| 14:11.56 | nathan__ | no need to troll though |
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| 14:12.11 | antgel | ndee: not false. one *could* argue that |
| 14:12.19 | imex | yeah i havent start searching for good games on Linux (network wise) |
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| 14:12.35 | cbr | i'm not trolling, i'm just trying to find out what causes such strange statements a la "omg nvidia drivers sux cuz unstable".. which they arent |
| 14:12.35 | Gathond | cbr: but 3d performance on a machine that does not play 3d games are kinda irellevant right? |
| 14:12.41 | ndee | antgel: well, after all, playing games is just personal reference. One could argue, but it would be totally nonsense |
| 14:12.48 | imex | brb need reboot |
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| 14:13.25 | Gathond | cbr: they might be less stable, I indeed had problems keeping it running for long periods while I still had a nvidia card (although things might have changed) |
| 14:13.45 | ndee | aaaaaaaaaa, it's driving me crazy |
| 14:14.01 | antgel | cbr: why don't you ask the person who made that statement? |
| 14:14.04 | cbr | Gathond: well, i still feel more comfortable trusting nVidia to handle my graphics card than random people interested in coding.. because it is THEIR card, so they know it best |
| 14:14.20 | nathan__ | ndee, still broke huh |
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| 14:14.31 | ndee | nathan_: jup and I have absolutely no clue why |
| 14:14.32 | petemc | cbr: those random people created the kernel that allows the driver to run, your argument has no substance |
| 14:14.41 | ndee | and that's what's pi**ing me off ;) |
| 14:14.44 | Gathond | cbr: that is one way of thinking, then again nvidia might not care if its stable as long as you buy the card :) |
| 14:14.45 | nathan__ | ndee, without sounded patronising are you sure its not browsing caching :) |
| 14:14.49 | jeanjacques | takatumi: excuse me but could you send me again the link pointing to the thread about localhost ? |
| 14:14.49 | cbr | petemc: the xorg devs created the linux kernel? |
| 14:15.03 | petemc | cbr: you're being obtuse |
| 14:15.04 | ndee | nathan_: restarted firefox too :) |
| 14:15.06 | antgel | cbr: stop being obtuse |
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| 14:15.16 | petemc | *bam* |
| 14:15.17 | antgel | *grin* |
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| 14:15.34 | takatumi | jeanjacques: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/09/msg01063.html |
| 14:15.39 | zeeble | what are you two, soulmates or something? |
| 14:15.44 | jeanjacques | takatumi: thank you very much |
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| 14:16.07 | cbr | Gathond: but they actually do.. okay ati's drivers are really crap but nvidia's drivers are just as good as under windows |
| 14:16.12 | antgel | zeeble: i won't bother answering that. petemc knows how i will reply and will reply on my behalf |
| 14:16.12 | Gathond | cbr: but why do you care so much if some people happen to think it sucks because its unstable, it might have been for them |
| 14:16.13 | Mjelva | guys. i messed up my .xinitrc yesterday. i made a really simple one just saying "exec firefox". i can't switch userspaces (like tty1, tty2 etc), tho. and when i try to start most apps they say they're unable to create a temp dir. where can i find a complete .xinitrc? |
| 14:16.26 | ndee | nathan_: you were right. I'm sooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo retarded, damn |
| 14:16.30 | Gathond | cbr: ATI's binary driver has worked as well as the nvidia one on the one machine I use to game on |
| 14:16.31 | zeeble | antgel: heh. ok. just that it was unreal. |
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| 14:17.09 | antgel | zeeble: or maybe he was being *so obtuse that one couldn't miss it* :) |
| 14:17.14 | zeeble | :) |
| 14:17.20 | sepen | I'm doing a dist-upgrade, but I have this error from udev http://pastebin.com/422957 , anyone can help me? |
| 14:17.22 | ndee | nathan_: that got me the second time already *embarassed* |
| 14:17.32 | antgel | !wayttd Mjelva |
| 14:17.35 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, Mjelva? |
| 14:17.52 | Gathond | cbr: then again stability is not really an issue on that machine as its powered off every night, so I dont really care if it cant run for 20+ days ... although some might |
| 14:18.07 | nathan__ | ndee, lol nice one |
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| 14:18.22 | ndee | nathan__: soooooo stupid hehe |
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| 14:18.36 | nathan__ | ndee, done it myself before nothing to be ashamed of... honest |
| 14:19.22 | Mjelva | antgel - i'm trying to restore full functionality to startx. after my xinitrc (or xsessions) got borked, things haven't really been up to par. where can i find a complete file to replace the crude one i made? |
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| 14:19.40 | antgel | Mjelva: why don't you delete the file? |
| 14:19.55 | cbr | Gathond: the reason the nvidia driver might be unstable is that nvidia cant keep up with the release cycle of the kernel.. because interfaces keep changing and old binaries might lose functionality |
| 14:20.10 | cahoot | Mjelva: you know there isn't one by default |
| 14:20.28 | Mjelva | cahoot - so how does startx know what to start? |
| 14:20.32 | zeeble | I still don't get what he wants to do. |
| 14:20.37 | nkuttler | sepen: past the error in english: LANG=C command |
| 14:20.48 | zeeble | it can do from a lot of other places. .xinitrc is one of the first places it looks. |
| 14:20.54 | zeeble | .xinitrc, .xsession etc |
| 14:21.02 | Gathond | cbr: that might be one reason, but that would not make it unstable as such in my book. unstable is crashes even on a kernel they claim it works for, If they have problems keeping up they should be specific as to which kernel versions they DO support |
| 14:21.11 | Mjelva | cahoot - i got some help yesterday, and when we figured out there was no .xinitrc, we figured that was the problem, and created one. and then fluxbox started successfully. |
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| 14:21.30 | broadcaster_ | !tell me about apt |
| 14:21.39 | zeeble | Mjelva: what exactly do you want to do? you want to start fluxbox, and then start Firefox in a particular screen? |
| 14:21.42 | cahoot | Mjelva: so 'exec firefox' was a typo? |
| 14:21.43 | nkuttler | broadcaster_: you can /msg the bot |
| 14:21.59 | Mjelva | cahoot - did i write that? if i did, that was a typo. "exec fluxbox" |
| 14:22.09 | Gathond | cbr: but since I dont work for nvidia nor use it my oppinion on the matter is not really that strong nor is my knowlegde of why it might be unstable |
| 14:22.13 | zeeble | oh. |
| 14:22.19 | zeeble | heh |
| 14:22.36 | Mjelva | o ya. i did write exec firefox. that was silly of me. |
| 14:23.15 | cahoot | Mjelva: I doubt the simple line 'exec fluxbox' in .xinitrc can do any harm at all / or be the cause of the problem you describe |
| 14:23.58 | Mjelva | cahoot - heck if i know. before i created .xinitrc and made it exec fluxbox, startx crapped out whenever i tried to start it. |
| 14:24.32 | cahoot | Mjelva: do you know what perms you have set on /tmp? |
| 14:24.48 | Mjelva | and now, when i try to start an app through terminal, it says "** ERROR **: Resource problem creating '/tmp/orbit-morten'" |
| 14:24.56 | Mjelva | cahoot - permissions are default. |
| 14:25.17 | nkuttler | Mjelva: ls -ld /tmp/ |
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| 14:25.20 | ndee | thanks for the help - out |
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| 14:26.02 | Mjelva | nkuttler- "drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 3072 2005-11-09 02:00 /tmp/" |
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| 14:26.28 | nkuttler | Mjelva: is /tmp on the root partition? |
| 14:26.48 | Mjelva | nkuttler- everything is on the same partition. |
| 14:26.53 | DaBlade | Hello. Does anyone know where I can find a deb of ksplash-engines-moodin, or the source code? The official server seems to be down. |
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| 14:28.05 | imex | what is the easiest irc program to use on Linux |
| 14:28.15 | Gathond | imex: xchat i think |
| 14:28.17 | imex | i m using k one |
| 14:28.21 | imex | i c |
| 14:28.29 | imex | now i should go look for that |
| 14:28.29 | nkuttler | Mjelva: debian uses .xsession instead of .xinitrc. echo exec /usr/bin/fluxbox > ~/.xsession, remove the .xinitrc, startx, show us the exact error what happens when an application doesn't start |
| 14:28.30 | Mjelva | irssi if you wanna be leet and run from command line <3 |
| 14:28.44 | Gathond | if you are looking for a graphical one, then again I havent really tried anything other than xchat for several years :) |
| 14:28.48 | Mjelva | ok, nkuttler |
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| 14:29.12 | RichiH | easiest is probably xchat, yes |
| 14:29.12 | DaBlade | Sorry to nag, but, uh.. does anyone know? |
| 14:29.28 | imex | i m on the hunt of xchat |
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| 14:29.42 | Mjelva | that's odd, nkuttler |
| 14:29.47 | RichiH | imex: apt-get install xchat |
| 14:29.48 | Mjelva | .xsession already exists |
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| 14:29.59 | imex | couldnt find it |
| 14:30.07 | RichiH | !tell DaBlade about search |
| 14:30.16 | cahoot | xchat2 or such? |
| 14:30.16 | nkuttler | Mjelva: i'm not sure which is used when both exist, man startx or just remove the .xinitrc |
| 14:30.17 | RichiH | DaBlade: else, you could try google |
| 14:30.22 | DaBlade | I searched on Debian's own site |
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| 14:30.37 | DaBlade | There isn't one in any of the sections |
| 14:30.46 | cahoot | Mjelva: make one a symlink to the other |
| 14:30.48 | Mjelva | nkuttler- from what i know, i think .xinitrc takes presendence |
| 14:30.48 | imex | hmm maybe xchat2 lets try |
| 14:31.02 | imex | nope |
| 14:31.15 | nkuttler | Mjelva: /msg dpkg .xinitrc |
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| 14:31.49 | Lilldude10 | in kde |
| 14:31.52 | nathan__ | imex: huh? apt-get install xchat |
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| 14:32.19 | Lilldude10 | id there kifi wep keys spot or dio u onlyn do it in shell? |
| 14:32.27 | cahoot | imex: you do use debian? |
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| 14:32.33 | broadcaster_ | can somebody PLEASE tell me, hy apt still ignores my package lists, even after i imported the ke with gpg and apt-key ??? |
| 14:33.08 | broadcaster_ | two of my machines are f****ed up because of this apt-secure thing. |
| 14:33.08 | Mjelva | i guess i'll restart x and see what happens |
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| 14:33.37 | EmleyMoor | Surely the setup for kronolith should set up the database tables it needs |
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| 14:34.27 | broadcaster_ | i did: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4F368D5D ; gpg --export 4F368D5D | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 14:34.31 | broadcaster_ | oh damn... sudo |
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| 14:36.03 | Mjelva | hmm. well, i tried to remove .xinitrc, and things are back the way they were. startx fails. |
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| 14:36.15 | nkuttler | Mjelva: what error? |
| 14:36.23 | broadcaster_ | ok,even after gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 4F368D5D ; gpg --export 4F368D5D | apt-key add -; the package lists are ignored. *grind* |
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| 14:36.47 | Mjelva | nkuttler- not sure what you mean. i can show you Xorg.0.log if that helps. |
| 14:37.15 | nkuttler | Mjelva: grep it for EE |
| 14:37.49 | nkuttler | Mjelva: which debian release do you use? |
| 14:38.06 | Mjelva | nkuttler- 2.6.12-1-386 |
| 14:38.16 | zeeble | um. |
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| 14:38.23 | nkuttler | that's a kernel version, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 14:38.29 | Mjelva | nkuttler- how do i grep it? :( |
| 14:38.56 | nkuttler | Mjelva: xorg isn't in stable. you're sayint you don't run stable and don't know how to use grep? |
| 14:39.00 | Mjelva | nkuttler- oh, rite. it says testing/unstable |
| 14:39.06 | nkuttler | .oO |
| 14:39.10 | broadcaster_ | oh, i got it. the stable pakage lists were included in knoppix... damn.... |
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| 14:39.28 | Mjelva | nkuttler- i had to. stable was too outdated for my computar :( |
| 14:39.40 | bibe | hi all. I am looking for my good old /sys/class/net/<wireless_iface_here>/wireless directory, I don't have it anymore since I upgraded to kernel 2.6.14 (and 2.6.14.1, today). Where can I find documentation regarding wireless settings into /sys pseudo-filesystem? |
| 14:39.42 | nkuttler | Mjelva: man grep |
| 14:39.59 | Mjelva | nkuttler- i tried that, obviously. but it wouldn't work :( |
| 14:40.15 | nkuttler | Mjelva: you tried what? |
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| 14:40.46 | Mjelva | nkuttler- man grep. it says "gzip: stdout: No space left on device" |
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| 14:40.57 | nkuttler | Mjelva: think about that |
| 14:41.07 | Mjelva | nkuttler- no space on hdd? |
| 14:41.26 | nkuttler | Mjelva: correct. what do you do now? |
| 14:41.45 | Mjelva | nkuttler- make the partition bigger, and reinstall everything? |
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| 14:42.01 | saloxin | delete big movie files? |
| 14:42.10 | nkuttler | Mjelva: that's a good idea. you can probably free some space with apt-get clean |
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| 14:43.06 | sloncho | hi. how I make a script to wait for a key-press? |
| 14:43.25 | davor | sloncho: try a WHILE-loop |
| 14:43.29 | sPENKMAN | I cant get NAT working well on my machine (I can ping my external IP adres from an host in the internal network, but i cannot ping to the outside of the evil world), can anyone give me a hand with troubleshooting? |
| 14:43.30 | bessel | how to know the size of a directory (with all its sub-s')? |
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| 14:43.38 | asg | bessel: du |
| 14:43.45 | bessel | asg: thank you |
| 14:43.51 | zeeble | bessel: du -sh /path/to/dir |
| 14:43.54 | saloxin | sloncho: what kind of script? in bash you can use "read" |
| 14:44.18 | sward | resiak: moron :P |
| 14:44.19 | sloncho | saloxin: bash. so, I'll give a try to read. thanks |
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| 14:45.20 | sloncho | saloxin: man read shows something to read from a file descriptor. any hint where to read more? |
| 14:45.40 | jm_ | sloncho: man page for bash or read ABS |
| 14:45.55 | sloncho | jm_: thanks |
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| 14:46.15 | Lilldude10 | can some one help me set uop wireless? |
| 14:46.15 | saloxin | sloncho: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/internal.html + #bash |
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| 14:46.33 | omry|work | I am trying to enable inotify. my kernel is built with it turned on, but I still don't have /dev/inotify |
| 14:46.40 | omry|work | 2.6.13 |
| 14:46.43 | Nirgal_ | Lilldude10: what shipset? |
| 14:46.54 | czorg | my partition table seem to be lost what is the best tool to recover it |
| 14:46.57 | Lilldude10 | nirgal its wep keys |
| 14:47.01 | Mjelva | nkuttler- grep will start now. but startx is still a no go. |
| 14:47.16 | Lilldude10 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:47.35 | saloxin | sloncho: it's also in man bash - around line 4072 in my xterm :-/ |
| 14:47.58 | mik54 | Anyone know off hand a method of transfering files that will keep permissions? File are too large to tar/transfer/untar |
| 14:47.59 | Nirgal_ | Lilldude10: you can set the key with iwconfig. You can set it on boot in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 14:48.19 | Lilldude10 | ok il go tehre |
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| 14:48.26 | Lilldude10 | put that in shell? |
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| 14:49.28 | l3m | is there a tool to nondestructively resize partitions? |
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| 14:49.45 | wwallace_lap | hello to all |
| 14:49.45 | asg | l3m: parted |
| 14:49.48 | thei0s | partition magic :) |
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| 14:50.10 | Nirgal_ | Lilldude10: read iwconfig manual. You can set the key manually from the shell with that command, yes. |
| 14:50.13 | l3m | asg: doesn't parted delete stuff on the partitions? |
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| 14:50.27 | wwallace_lap | how do i locally mount the windows share: //mp3j/E/MY BACKED UP MP3's? |
| 14:50.44 | asg | mik54: tar -cf - /files /n /stuff | ssh me@foo "cd /dir ; cat -> my.tar" |
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| 14:50.53 | Lilldude10 | i see iw config under networking |
| 14:51.11 | asg | l3m: I've used it to resize ext3 partitions many times. |
| 14:51.37 | imex | xchat 2.6 kicks me out |
| 14:51.46 | l3m | asg: ok thanks |
| 14:51.50 | asg | mik54: to save the perms, add the -p option to tar |
| 14:51.56 | saloxin | mik54: rsync -aP ? |
| 14:52.13 | __biskata | hey i got a strange prob (I don't know if it is really debian related, but as far as i am on debian... :P). The whole system crashesh very often, but it seems it crashesh only when i use a webbrowser (both firefox and mozilla crash). The whole system gets unusable, but i can move the cursor and the music i listen to plays but it is so slow. Any ideas where to look about this problem ?Because i can't think of query for google :-) |
| 14:52.14 | asg | l3m: you are encouraged to backup your data as always but I've never had trouble with parted. |
| 14:52.39 | l3m | asg: of course ;) |
| 14:52.43 | asg | __biskata: can you ssh into the box? if so, start looking at top, vmstat, logs, etc. |
| 14:52.47 | agruman | howdy, i need qconfig.h for a projekt, however that file is in: libqt3-mt-dev, and if i install that one apt want me to remove: libqt3c102-mt and i dont want that since my kde3.4 depends on that one. anyone have any suggestions on what i should do? |
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| 14:53.07 | __biskata | asg, not possible. all the services just freeze |
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| 14:53.21 | __biskata | only the mouse cursor and the music still run |
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| 14:53.22 | asg | agruman: use debootstrap to build a chroot, install and compile code inside it using whatever library is needed. |
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| 14:53.34 | saloxin | __biskata: might be hw problems, do you get burnmarks from touching cpu heatsink? or bad memory - run memtest for 12 hours |
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| 14:53.39 | asg | __biskata: odd. After you reboot, do the logs show anything interesting? |
| 14:54.20 | sloncho | am I right to assume that scripts in rc.S are going to be executed before the ones in the other runlevels? even if their Sxx number is bigger that some Sxx numbers in the other runlevels? |
| 14:54.23 | __biskata | asg, i didn't notice anything out of ordinary in the logs(which logs do you mean btw ? as i look at /var/log/ messages and debug |
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| 14:54.49 | __biskata | saloxin, i thought of this but i will do it during the night. |
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| 14:55.04 | Nirgal_ | Lilldude10: "man wireless" explains about setting the wep key inside /etc/network/interfaces. (By the way, WEP is really poor encryption) |
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| 14:55.40 | saloxin | __biskata: apt-cache show memtest86+ :-) |
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| 14:56.21 | Lilldude10 | were is gui spot for seting the network? |
| 14:57.11 | imex | brb checking whats going on with xchat installation |
| 14:57.20 | asg | __biskata: try /var/log/syslog, /var/log/kern.log |
| 14:57.22 | czorg | how to recover table partition |
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| 14:57.38 | sandman | Failed to fetch http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/pool/main/a/apt-file/apt-file_2.0.6.dsc Bad header line |
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| 14:58.37 | Douglas77 | czorg: apt-get install gpart |
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| 14:58.45 | __biskata | by the way could it be video problems ? as i have the nvidia driver installed ? |
| 14:59.15 | __biskata | as syslog says something about the NVRM: Xid: 13, some hex here |
| 14:59.23 | __biskata | from the time about the crash |
| 14:59.29 | Lilldude10 | brb |
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| 15:00.02 | sloncho | chatzilla crash, so I repost: am I right to assume that scripts in rc.S are going to be executed before any other scripts in the other runlevels? even if their Sxx number is bigger that others in the rest of the run levels? if I'm wrong, and I need a script to be executed after kernel modules are loaded, but before any networking ifup is done, where should I place it? right now I put it in... |
| 15:00.04 | sloncho | ...rc.S with S37 |
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| 15:00.35 | czorg | aDouglas77 lready try gpart -g -f -C238216,16,63 -s512 /dev/hdc |
| 15:00.35 | czorg | *** Fatal error: failed trying to use sector size 512. |
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| 15:01.29 | fevel | I upgraded gnome and now AltGr isnt working, how do I set up AltGr?? |
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| 15:02.08 | fevel | I need to access special characters |
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| 15:03.02 | Nirgal_ | fevel: I fixed it by adding 'Option "XkbOptions" "alt_win:metawin"' in windows config file |
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| 15:03.18 | torc | does local resolver have any cache? |
| 15:03.34 | kingsley | Is there a way to clip the head off of a large and rapidly growing log file without losing any new lines from its tail? |
| 15:03.40 | arcfide | What is the command to show a packages description, recommend packages, etc.? |
| 15:03.42 | cybmas | hy |
| 15:03.52 | asg | arcfide: apt-cache show |
| 15:04.02 | arcfide | asg: Thanks. |
| 15:04.04 | kingsley | arcfide: dpkg -s <package> |
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| 15:04.31 | EmleyMoor | I can't get kronolith (installed from the Debian package in stable) to display the events I have proven that it has entered in the database |
| 15:04.32 | arcfide | kingsley: You can use a log rotator, can't you? |
| 15:04.41 | bibe | kingsley : can 'tail -f' suit your needs? |
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| 15:05.04 | fevel | Nirgal_: where did you add it?? |
| 15:05.15 | asg | kingsley: pipe your output to a fifo and tail that. That way, you never grow a logfile but always have a stream you can analyze |
| 15:05.17 | fevel | Nirgal_: windows config???? |
| 15:05.39 | __biskata | maybe he means X.org or XFree86 |
| 15:05.39 | __biskata | ;-) |
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| 15:05.55 | fevel | __biskata: screen section?? |
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| 15:06.35 | joe__ | how come the package manager downloads xchat 2.4.1 instead of the latest version? |
| 15:07.01 | Nirgal_ | fevel: in /etc/X11/xorg.conf here, but maybe you are using xfree86... In the InputSection, driver keyboard. |
| 15:07.06 | Ronin | joe__: cause the release your running doesnt have the latest |
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| 15:07.25 | joe__ | i thought i had the latest version of debian |
| 15:07.36 | kingsley | arcfide: Like you, I considered a log rotator, but at least in this case, I want to keep a big tail of the log file available at all times. |
| 15:07.42 | Ronin | joe__: sarge? etch? sid? |
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| 15:08.15 | joe__ | umm.. how do i find out? |
| 15:08.43 | kingsley | bibe: I've had problems with "tail -n <lines> -f" piped into less, but perhaps that was less's problem. Thanks. |
| 15:08.46 | bibe | joe__ : sarge is the latest _stable_ version of debian. That doesn't mean it has the latest version of all packages. To find out what release you have, do a 'cat /etc/debian_version' |
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| 15:09.09 | bibe | kingsley : no probelm |
| 15:09.24 | joe__ | bibe, says 3. |
| 15:09.27 | joe__ | 3.1 |
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| 15:10.05 | Ronin | sarge |
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| 15:10.20 | joe__ | ok |
| 15:10.26 | Ronin | which only gets security updates so naturally its not "up to date" |
| 15:10.35 | Ronin | with the latest and greatest software |
| 15:10.41 | bibe | joe__ : so it's "Sarge", the latest stable version. It won't upgrade any package version anymore, it will only backport security fixes that can come with upstream packages |
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| 15:10.55 | kingsley | asg: A fifo is clever, but, my concern is that its data would be destroyed after its first read. I need the data to persist until I'm certain it's OK to clip off the head. |
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| 15:11.08 | __biskata | asg, saloxin i got it ;-) it is from my freaking video card ( GF2). there are some probs with the agp slot on my motherboard |
| 15:11.18 | nite613 | running etch, aptitude is giving me headaches about a bunch of KDE problems, seems to be a library upgrade issue of somesort. Any insight? Should I just hold off on the KDE related updates for now? |
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| 15:11.42 | joe__ | what version should i have then? ;) |
| 15:11.50 | uYgAr_09 | slm |
| 15:11.55 | Ronin | joe__: nothing wrong with sarge |
| 15:12.04 | bibe | nite613 : read this week's DWN, it reports kde status in etch |
| 15:12.21 | nite613 | bibe: thanks |
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| 15:12.49 | joe__ | but.. I cant get latest packages unless I install them manually? |
| 15:13.00 | bibe | joe__ : "Etch" and "Sid" (testing and unstable, respectively) ship xchat version 2.4.5 |
| 15:13.01 | Ronin | joe__: you dont NEED the latest do you? |
| 15:13.20 | joe__ | no |
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| 15:13.23 | cybmas | hy guys, any idea why plone's navigation doesn't work correctly on sarge with linguaplone? |
| 15:13.23 | uYgAr_09 | toxý cýty |
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| 15:13.45 | joe__ | but when packages are considered "stable", then they can be upgraded? |
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| 15:14.53 | haugha | hi.. anyone know how to configure squid to use two internet connections?.. one for one iprange.. and another internet connection for another ip range |
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| 15:15.15 | cybmas | hy guys, any idea why plone's navigation doesn't work correctly on sarge with linguaplone? |
| 15:15.37 | bibe | joe__ : "stable" is referred to the whole distribution, not to single packages. Debian stable (Sarge, at the moment) will always ship the currently available version of all packages (with a few exceptions) until the next stable release (not due before Dec. 2007) |
| 15:15.40 | NOthsouth | hello, I just connect my mouse PS/2 .. but the mouse do not move |
| 15:15.41 | asg | kingsley: ah, okay. |
| 15:15.54 | NOthsouth | there is a way to make it work whitouth restart linux ? |
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| 15:16.18 | asg | NOthsouth: what kernel? |
| 15:16.22 | NOthsouth | 2.6 |
| 15:16.24 | NOthsouth | debian sarge |
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| 15:16.28 | joe__ | ahh, i see :) |
| 15:16.33 | asg | NOthsouth: modprobe psmouse mousedev (see if that kicks things into gear) |
| 15:17.09 | NOthsouth | asg, nop .. |
| 15:17.12 | loxley_ | knu11afi77a |
| 15:17.28 | asg | NOthsouth: you may need to reconfigure and restart X also. |
| 15:17.53 | NOthsouth | reconfigure what ? |
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| 15:18.12 | asg | NOthsouth: XWindow. Or are you in console |
| 15:18.41 | NOthsouth | nop i`m in gnome |
| 15:18.55 | asg | NOthsouth: that's X. /msg dpkg drxx |
| 15:19.33 | NOthsouth | ? |
| 15:19.48 | asg | !tell NOthsouth about drxx |
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| 15:20.11 | NOthsouth | ho |
| 15:20.12 | NOthsouth | i see |
| 15:20.14 | NOthsouth | thx |
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| 15:20.54 | joe__ | i can't hear any sound, why might this be? |
| 15:21.01 | Ronin | speakers arent turned on? |
| 15:21.05 | fevel | i chose to use xserver keyboard settings instead of gnome in an error that occured, how do I choose gnome keyboard settings?? |
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| 15:22.00 | joe__ | Ronin, they are.. I can hear sound in windows |
| 15:22.16 | Ronin | muted? try a different sound file, different type |
| 15:22.25 | Lilldude10 | back |
| 15:22.29 | Lilldude10 | #kde |
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| 15:22.59 | Lilldude10 | stil got wireless ? |
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| 15:24.33 | awormus | what MPM does the deb of apache2 use? |
| 15:24.52 | fevel | I get an "Error activating XKB configuration." when I try to configure third level choosers on gnome keyboard settings. Still cant get the AltGr key to work. |
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| 15:25.53 | stew | awormus: apt-cache search apache mpm |
| 15:25.57 | bibe | awormus : the default install (apt-get install apache2) uses prefork MPM |
| 15:27.23 | bibe | !depends apache2 |
| 15:27.25 | dpkg | apache2: depends on apache2-mpm-worker (= 2.0.55-3) | apache2-mpm-prefork (= 2.0.55-3) | apache2-mpm-perchild (= 2.0.55-3) |
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| 15:27.55 | awormus | bibe thanks |
| 15:28.31 | bibe | awormus : no problem |
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| 15:30.42 | Kerr | !h264 |
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| 15:32.34 | uYgAr_09 | slm millet |
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| 15:35.36 | phaedral | did something very wrong with aptitude last night; downloaded 1.3GB of apps |
| 15:36.14 | uYgAr_09 | wow! |
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| 15:36.38 | b00mer | anybody know how I can install libphp-adodb in etch and still use php5? |
| 15:36.39 | phaedral | shouldda stuck with apt-get |
| 15:36.41 | joe__ | i've just installed debian but i hear no sound.. what do i do? |
| 15:37.22 | b00mer | libphp-adodb depends on php4 and apache... but I am running php5 and apache2 |
| 15:37.44 | NOthsouth | What i need configure, to running 2 mouses (serial and usb) at same time ?? |
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| 15:42.56 | bibe | NOthsouth : kernel 2.6? |
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| 15:43.27 | WiFiTux | I think gallery in Stable is b0rke.d |
| 15:43.30 | NOthsouth | bibe, yes |
| 15:43.37 | eliteforce | i need oo2 packages for sarge, where can i get them |
| 15:43.55 | WiFiTux | eliteforce: packages.debian.org |
| 15:43.56 | bibe | NOthsouth : you can use Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice", it should detect and use both mice at the same time |
| 15:44.19 | eliteforce | WiFiTux: oo2 is unstable but ineed sarge packages |
| 15:44.30 | NOthsouth | bibe, i`m ! |
| 15:44.41 | WiFiTux | eliteforce: you can't have both of worlds. Choose. |
| 15:44.52 | phaedral | eliteforce: oo2 not in sarge; take the risk |
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| 15:45.17 | bibe | NOthsouth : ? |
| 15:45.45 | samuel | eliteforce, why not just download and compile? |
| 15:45.48 | eliteforce | phaedral: is it possible to compile it by hand? |
| 15:45.50 | NOthsouth | but the ps2 mouse do not work, even the serial l |
| 15:45.55 | joe__ | i've just installed debian but i hear no sound.. what do i do? |
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| 15:46.02 | eliteforce | samuel: if that works it would be very nice |
| 15:46.17 | WiFiTux | afaik oo2 only is full of rpms. |
| 15:47.17 | samuel | eliteforce, dunno, mabe - i do know that debian unstable is more stable than most other distros - so if you go unstable you may like it |
| 15:47.19 | bibe | NOthsouth : then try enabling the two mice separately, one as /dev/psaux and the other /dev/ttyS0 (or whatever is your mouse) |
| 15:47.55 | bibe | and enable both mice in the ServerLayout section, one as CorePointer and the other with SendCoreEvents option |
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| 15:48.13 | NOthsouth | bibe , so i need 2 input devies in my XF86config-4 ? |
| 15:48.47 | bibe | NOthsouth : yes, clone all the InputDevice section and tweak the settings (especially the Device) |
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| 15:49.28 | NOthsouth | bibe, ok :D |
| 15:49.43 | bibe | take a look at http://www.atworkonline.it/~bibe/debian/XF86Config-4.debian if you want |
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| 15:50.11 | bibe | beware, it's for a way different configuration than yours, but it uses two mice |
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| 15:51.48 | NOthsouth | bibe, wht protocol should I use to serial mouse / |
| 15:51.49 | NOthsouth | ? |
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| 15:52.56 | bibe | try using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 15:53.09 | bibe | or use auto-dev |
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| 15:55.00 | broadcaster_ | !tell me about apt-secure |
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| 15:55.44 | luite | when building a kernel package with make-kpkg, the first time I run it, it always runs fine. but if I patch something and want to make a new kernel package with another name (append-to-version) it complains about things in the changelog. Is there a way to clean those files without having to recompile the whole kernel? |
| 15:55.51 | broadcaster_ | !tell me about apt-key 4F368D5D |
| 15:56.01 | Coweater | broadcaster_: /msg dpkg |
| 15:56.04 | resiak | broadcaster_: You can /msg the bot. |
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| 15:56.31 | broadcaster_ | oh, sry |
| 15:56.58 | bibe | luite : change only the --revision parameter, not the --append-to-version |
| 15:57.47 | bibe | luite : or, if you want it as a completely different kernel, you'd have to recompile everything, AFAIK |
| 15:57.50 | luite | bibe: but it's not really a new revision, it's some experimental kernel patch that I'm testing. |
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| 15:58.20 | broadcaster_ | i cannot install stable packages, apt ignores them. i *do have* the keys from 2003, 2004, 2005 installed and i set APT::Get::AllowUnauthenticated; what next? i'm stuck. :-( |
| 15:58.35 | broadcaster_ | actually, it doesn't ignore the packages, but the package lists. |
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| 16:02.32 | clojster | how can I install *.cpkg file? |
| 16:02.56 | bibe | clojster : where does it come from? |
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| 16:03.09 | mynullvoid | hi all |
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| 16:03.47 | clojster | bibe: torrent |
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| 16:05.10 | michele | hallo all ... any italian here plz? |
| 16:05.19 | broadcaster_ | apt-get --allow-unauthenticated update does not work either |
| 16:05.32 | Ronin | why michele your english seems fine |
| 16:05.47 | michele | it just seems ... i'm not good ... |
| 16:06.04 | michele | i've got just a prob ... with the root password |
| 16:06.08 | Ronin | assuming it exists #debian-it |
| 16:06.17 | azeem | !it |
| 16:06.17 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 16:06.20 | michele | thanx a lot, i'll go there |
| 16:06.22 | mynullvoid | michele: go on then |
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| 16:07.05 | mynullvoid | I wish there is one for malay heh |
| 16:07.07 | mynullvoid | !my |
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| 16:08.01 | dos000 | I am about to reboot my 2.6.14 built kernel on a debian sarge 2.4 kernel system. am i supposed to install extra packages so that the transition is smooth ? |
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| 16:08.27 | mynullvoid | dos000: had you installed the new kernel? |
| 16:08.31 | Lopuz | why do i have to run the nvidia installer every time i reboot? |
| 16:08.53 | daxxar | What do I need to do to run a for-loop over a find-output, maintaining proper filenames (e.g. if they have spaces) |
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| 16:09.03 | dos000 | mynullvoid, i am about to reboot. i instaled the .deb that was built. |
| 16:09.22 | SerajewelKS | !nvidia-installersmite Lopuz |
| 16:09.28 | daxxar | for f in `find <some expression>`; do echo $f; done gives me "/foo/bar baz" as "/foo/bar" "baz", which breaks the script. :) |
| 16:09.35 | mynullvoid | dos000: then just reboot via your new kernel and see how it goes |
| 16:10.01 | dos000 | mynullvoid, this is for a remote machine :-( if it dies i am in dead water |
| 16:10.03 | asg | daxxar: use find -print0 |
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| 16:10.17 | SerajewelKS | Lopuz: why are you using the installer in the first place? |
| 16:10.27 | Lopuz | why not? |
| 16:10.27 | mynullvoid | dos000: then you need to make sure the modules to be working fine like the NIC |
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| 16:10.57 | SerajewelKS | Lopuz: because it breaks on most major linux distributions? |
| 16:11.03 | SerajewelKS | !tell Lopuz about nvidia one-liner |
| 16:11.09 | daxxar | How does that help, asg? I need to pipe it to xargs -0, then, but how can I iterate over it? |
| 16:11.12 | dos000 | mynullvoid, but i am wondering when you install a 2.6 kernel is there some compatibilty pkgs that need installing ? |
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| 16:11.42 | asg | daxxar: for f in $(find .... -print0) ; do /bin/something-with $f ; done |
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| 16:11.51 | daxxar | Oh, ok. Thanks. |
| 16:11.52 | daxxar | :) |
| 16:12.06 | mynullvoid | dos000: don't worry about the package now, just make sure you can get others hardware to be recogn by the kernel |
| 16:12.34 | SerajewelKS | Lopuz: using the nvidia installer is basically saying "i want to have a broken installation of linux" |
| 16:12.41 | mynullvoid | dos000: I don't encourage custom kernel upgrade done remotely |
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| 16:13.49 | mynullvoid | ok guys gtg |
| 16:13.54 | mynullvoid | bye |
| 16:14.05 | omry|work | I am trying to enable inotify. I just built kernel 2.6.14 with CONFIG_INOTIFY=y, and /dev/inotify is still missing. any idea whats up? |
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| 16:14.36 | daxxar | asg, err, that behaves identically.. (it seems) |
| 16:14.38 | SerajewelKS | omry|work: you didn't mknod? |
| 16:14.40 | jhaig | Where can I find a list of the packages required for a minimal Debian install? I want to try building a custom distribution from the bare bones. |
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| 16:15.19 | asg | daxxar: well, then /bin/something is interpreting the spaces. In this case, it might be more prudent to go with something like Perl or Python. |
| 16:15.30 | daxxar | asg, /bin/something is 'echo' |
| 16:15.40 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, I don't have anything about inotify in dmesg, so I don't know the device numbers. |
| 16:15.57 | SerajewelKS | omry|work: google? |
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| 16:16.06 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, been there, done that. |
| 16:17.13 | SerajewelKS | omry|work: a google on 'linux mknod "/dev/inotify"' shows quite a few results |
| 16:17.42 | daxxar | asg: example: mkdir "A & B" "C & D"; for d in $(find . -type d -print0); do echo $d; done |
| 16:17.55 | philtank | hi, I wonder if someone can help with vsftpd. I find that if I enable chroot_local_users=YES, vsftpd won't start and I get vsftpd dead but subsys locked |
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| 16:18.01 | daxxar | Echoes: ../A\n&\nB./C\n&\nD |
| 16:18.05 | asg | daxxar: find . -name 'foo\ bar\ baz.txt' -print0 | xargs -0 echo (that works) |
| 16:18.21 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, the first link, in 128.ibm, says it should appear in dmesg. |
| 16:18.28 | daxxar | asg, well, I'm only using "echo" to test. But put that in $()? |
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| 16:18.43 | SerajewelKS | omry|work: it also gives you the device numbers |
| 16:19.08 | grendal_prime | anyone ever set up one of these pci flash reader cards? |
| 16:19.11 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, if I just "mknod /dev/inotify c 10 63", and cat /dev/inotify I get : cat: /dev/inotify: No such device |
| 16:19.19 | asg | daxxar: it's worth a shot, try it and see. |
| 16:19.36 | SerajewelKS | omry|work: okay, well that solves the problem of "/dev/inotify is still missing" |
| 16:19.45 | grendal_prime | you plut it in and then plug a card into it..im not sure if i set up a mount to the pci or to the cf card itself? |
| 16:19.47 | daxxar | Same, just less broken. :P |
| 16:20.09 | daxxar | .\n./A\n&\nB\n./C\n&\nD |
| 16:20.33 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, yes. but I believe once it will be properly configured, the node will appear there. the problem is elsewhere. |
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| 16:22.51 | Auror | which version of CoLinux can I use with Debian? |
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| 16:23.19 | grendal_prime | only the special one |
| 16:23.31 | grendal_prime | becase linux is very locked in per distro hehehehehe |
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| 16:24.52 | omry|work | SerajewelKS, aha. according to this : "http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2005/10/msg02280.html", its no longer supposed to be there. (now interaction is via a system call). the great article at 128.ibm is outdated. |
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| 16:27.54 | ohad | hi, i am trying to install apg on my machine - i get the following error - This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. -- is it really harmful to remove the e2fsprogs pkg? how can i resolve this and just insall apg? should install it from source? |
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| 16:28.38 | omry|work | ohad, last time I got this message, I took the risk and forced it. it didn't break anything. |
| 16:28.53 | omry|work | (with the same package) |
| 16:28.59 | Kevin`_ | that's what I love about package management |
| 16:29.01 | omry|work | e2fsprogs |
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| 16:30.13 | QwErTzz | hi, I have a problem with php5.. i have installed php5-mysql modules, php5, and mysql. I am getting this error while trying to use mysql_connect(): Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in Any Idea ?? |
| 16:30.40 | omry|work | QwErTzz, better ask at #php |
| 16:30.45 | QwErTzz | I did |
| 16:30.47 | QwErTzz | ;oP |
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| 16:32.33 | saloxin | QwErTzz: check that mysql.so orso is in php.ini |
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| 16:33.38 | chris__ | #wayforth |
| 16:34.26 | Gnea | !foo |
| 16:34.26 | dpkg | i heard foo is the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/entry/foo.html> and <bar> |
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| 16:34.37 | tmccrary | hey, I have to send some commands to a serial device with minicom and I have the port settings right. However, when I type something into minicom, usb-to-serial device's tx/rx lights don't blink. Now, I have minicom set to use ttyUSB0, and if I echo data into that device, I get blinking lights. Anyone know how to make minicom not suck? |
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| 16:35.07 | QwErTzz | saloxin: no it isnt in |
| 16:35.25 | saloxin | tmccrary: set minicom settings to the same as port settings? |
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| 16:35.42 | lopuz | i followed your instructions to make the nvidia kernel module, but the GLX thing seems to still fail |
| 16:35.55 | saloxin | QwErTzz: you might need it, since php-mysql gives you a mysql.so somewhere... dpkg -L php5-mysql |
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| 16:36.40 | tmccrary | yeah the minicom settings are what the manual for the device calls for. To start the device's executive, I have to send it @@@@<CR>. after I start minicom, I type that in, but the lights on the USB-to-serial converter don't blink or anything. The device seems to be working properly though, as with echo they blink and dmesg notices the devices and assigns it to ttyUSB0 |
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| 16:36.55 | QwErTzz | saloxin: you right, I just fixed it |
| 16:37.02 | QwErTzz | saloxin: thanks a lot |
| 16:37.06 | saloxin | :-D |
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| 16:37.54 | cr3 | what program can I use to listen to audio CDs from the command line? I use moosic which calls other programs like mpg123, ogg123, speexdec, etc. but I don't know how to read audio CDs though. |
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| 16:38.16 | thingfish | man, good question. |
| 16:38.18 | azeem | cr3: cdcd I think |
| 16:38.24 | yos87 | hi |
| 16:38.24 | saloxin | cr3: cdtool -> provides cdplay |
| 16:38.29 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: how did things work out with kingsley? |
| 16:38.30 | asg | cr3: workbone |
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| 16:38.44 | yos87 | zppy jo |
| 16:38.48 | cr3 | I just need something simple from the command line, I wasn't expecting so many alternatives. |
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| 16:39.17 | tmccrary | man, its strange that windows is the only os with a decent terminal ap |
| 16:39.19 | tmccrary | app |
| 16:39.19 | Auror | what program can I use as audio/video streaming server with Debian? |
| 16:39.22 | yos87 | khi dallas |
| 16:39.39 | thingfish | oh yes, the last night dondelelcaro/kingsley thing... |
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| 16:39.48 | saloxin | tmccrary: I heard of a minicom replacement under debian, can't remember the name though |
| 16:39.48 | Coweater | tmccrary: decent terminal app? |
| 16:39.48 | thingfish | I wonder how that came out, too. |
| 16:40.01 | tmccrary | I dont mean virtual terminals either, I like xterm :) |
| 16:40.32 | yos87 | hello |
| 16:40.40 | yos87 | I don't use debian |
| 16:41.13 | thingfish | is that a complaint? |
| 16:41.16 | blaamann | Auror: A friend of mine uses vlc on our local lan for that |
| 16:41.25 | yos87 | no |
| 16:41.32 | yos87 | because I don't have it |
| 16:41.39 | yos87 | and I don't know about it |
| 16:41.46 | yos87 | that is why I'm here |
| 16:41.46 | thingfish | that can all be remedied. |
| 16:42.02 | yos87 | that is why I'm here |
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| 16:42.15 | Auror | blamann: is it included in the Debian CDs? |
| 16:42.17 | _joey | stay away from it |
| 16:42.17 | yos87 | but I notes no body talking about debain |
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| 16:42.34 | saloxin | Auror: icecast for ogg/mp3 |
| 16:42.39 | _joey | it's no good for anything |
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| 16:43.00 | thingfish | yos87: it's still a little earlier in most of the States...it'll pick up after a while. |
| 16:43.26 | asg | yos87: /msg dpkg d-i |
| 16:43.37 | yos87 | but it's not available whole my aria |
| 16:43.40 | thingfish | !tell yos87 about why debian |
| 16:43.53 | _joey | is anyone using wpa_supplicant ? |
| 16:43.56 | asg | yos87: aria? |
| 16:44.35 | yos87 | ash I meaned area , |
| 16:44.42 | blaamann | Auror: I would guess so. At least it is available through apt-get. Read more about vlc here http://www.videolan.org/vlc/ |
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| 16:44.44 | yos87 | I don't have strong language |
| 16:44.57 | yos87 | I'm not england |
| 16:45.12 | thingfish | no problem, yos87. What is your native language? |
| 16:45.24 | thingfish | maybe there is a #debian channel for you. |
| 16:45.25 | asg | thingfish: he's in UAE |
| 16:45.25 | saloxin | yos87: you can download it and put on cd or floppy |
| 16:45.37 | thingfish | I know, but I know swedes in the UAE. |
| 16:45.47 | asg | thingfish: though all the people from UAE I ever met spoke perfect English *shrug* |
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| 16:45.59 | Ungy | UAE?? |
| 16:46.00 | thingfish | oh, I see what you're getting at, asg. |
| 16:46.05 | asg | Ungy: United Arab Emirates |
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| 16:46.56 | Ungy | Ahh Dubai I have a bunch of friends there |
| 16:46.56 | yos87 | thingfish: I'm arabic |
| 16:46.57 | thingfish | ah |
| 16:46.57 | zergouille | Hi. I have a huge list of user to create, is there a tool to help me ? thanks. |
| 16:46.57 | yos87 | ungy : rally |
| 16:46.57 | Ungy | yos87, yes |
| 16:46.57 | thingfish | well yos87, do as best you can in english, although if you're good in french you might try #debian-fr |
| 16:46.57 | yos87 | thingfish: yea but knoppix arabic version it too bad |
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| 16:47.25 | yos87 | ungy: have you been uae |
| 16:47.25 | asg | zergouille: what info is in the list? |
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| 16:47.47 | Vindevogel | I installed postgresql through aptitude. It played a bit with it, then uninstalled it with aptitude. I saw there were directories left in /etc (/etc/postgresql). I removed them manually because I though apt-get forgot them because I played with the config files in it. Now, when I use aptitude to install postgresql again, it won't recreate the /etc/postgresql |
| 16:48.01 | Ungy | yos87, no not yet but when my wife goes and visits her cousin there I might go with |
| 16:48.03 | asg | Vindevogel: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 16:48.29 | yos87 | <asg> yea |
| 16:48.30 | asg | Vindevogel: or see if there is an equivalent aptitude option in the manpage |
| 16:48.37 | _joey | arabs speak english?? |
| 16:48.41 | yos87 | <asg> but it's too much trafic now |
| 16:48.42 | azeem | _joey: why not? |
| 16:48.44 | asg | _joey: of course |
| 16:48.49 | yos87 | <joey>yea |
| 16:49.00 | Ungy | _joey, asians speak english? |
| 16:49.04 | yos87 | <joey> every body speak english in uae |
| 16:49.08 | rey619 | ya they d |
| 16:49.15 | zooy0rk | after an upgrade I am experience errors with gcc such as "undefined reference to __ctype*", however, nm -A /lib/libc.a | grep ctype shows all the undefined references. does anyone have any idea what could be the problem |
| 16:49.20 | yos87 | <joey> you call me and try |
| 16:49.28 | _joey | are you an arab ? |
| 16:49.29 | blondie | yos87: don't put names in <>s |
| 16:49.32 | yos87 | <joey> yea |
| 16:49.33 | zergouille | asg, well I have the usernames |
| 16:49.37 | blondie | <>s are used for quoting |
| 16:49.42 | ohad | omry|work, when trying to remove the e2fsprogs pkg i get the mesg "you are about to do something potentially harmful To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'" |
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| 16:49.45 | _joey | if you are I won't be calling you I'd rather shove 200 gms of explosives up your buma nd blow you away |
| 16:49.55 | _joey | now, how's that for English ? |
| 16:49.55 | azeem | !op _joey is off-topic |
| 16:49.56 | dpkg | azeem: okay |
| 16:50.00 | yos87 | <blondie> my name is (yosef) |
| 16:50.04 | azeem | hrm |
| 16:50.05 | asg | zergouille: then a for i in $(cat /file/o/usernames) ; do useradd <options> ; done should be all you need. |
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| 16:50.11 | azeem | _joey: how about you stop that? |
| 16:50.13 | blondie | yos87: yes, stop using <>s please |
| 16:50.17 | Ungy | _joey, seriously that was uncalled for |
| 16:50.17 | _joey | !op azeem off-topic |
| 16:50.19 | yos87 | <blond> check yosefkuzany.com |
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| 16:50.47 | azeem | yos87: if you talk to somebody, write his name and a ':' or ',' behind it, like I do |
| 16:50.51 | azeem | yos87: that is more common |
| 16:51.01 | blondie | and doesn't look like quoting :) |
| 16:51.06 | Ungy | azeem, ahh I like the <> |
| 16:51.08 | _joey | Ungy whatever |
| 16:51.49 | omry|work | ohad, I can't guarenty you it will not break your system. as I said, I took the risk and it worked. (if I remember correctly, it needs to remove it temporarly in order to install something else first, and than it will install it back). |
| 16:51.49 | _joey | arabs are running my beloved distro :(( |
| 16:51.59 | Ungy | _joey, seriously blind hatred can go both ways and should not be expressed int eh #debian channel if you want to be racist please keep your comments out of channel |
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| 16:53.24 | _joey | test |
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| 16:53.31 | yos87 | blondie: ok |
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| 16:54.34 | lopuz | hi, i cant get GLX to work with my nvidia kernel module. how may i fix this? |
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| 16:54.59 | yos87 | blondie: ok |
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| 16:55.21 | blondie | yos87: :) |
| 16:55.23 | Ungy | !nvidia |
| 16:55.23 | dpkg | rumour has it, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 16:55.33 | Darien | hi all, just got a new install going and I'm trying to upgrade from stable to testing, and the libc6 installation keeps crashing at postinst - is this a known problem? |
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| 16:56.21 | Darien | :/ |
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| 16:56.58 | Ungy | !bts |
| 16:56.58 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 16:57.06 | yos87 | joy: I didn't understand you long sentence |
| 16:57.09 | ohad | omry|work, for some reason it stoped in the middle. and now apt-get asks me to run ' apt-get -f install" |
| 16:57.13 | yos87 | joy: what shave |
| 16:57.26 | yos87 | joy : i dont have strong language |
| 16:57.36 | yos87 | I have to go |
| 16:57.39 | yos87 | by there |
| 16:57.40 | yos87 | i go |
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| 16:57.43 | Ungy | ohad did you run apt-get -f install? |
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| 16:58.23 | Bclass | hi |
| 16:58.42 | Darien | Ungy: I don't see anything there that is relevant |
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| 16:58.57 | omry|work | ohad, and when you do? |
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| 16:59.12 | Bclass | i have some trouble with alsa installation on a sarge, i had do a apt-get install alsa-base alsa.. and it didn't work |
| 16:59.18 | resiak | !didn't work |
| 16:59.18 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 16:59.47 | fbi | Bclass: kernel version |
| 16:59.49 | Ungy | Dairen then it is not known ;-) |
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| 16:59.57 | Bclass | 2.4.27.. (sarge) |
| 16:59.59 | Ungy | Darien then it is not known |
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| 17:00.13 | fbi | Bclass: patch your kernel with alsa-modules or install a 2.6 kernel. |
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| 17:00.18 | Darien | Ungy: right, then 'what can I do about it so this server doesn't end up broken?' |
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| 17:00.33 | Bclass | i can found alsa-modules in apt-get or on alsa web site ? |
| 17:00.47 | fbi | Bclass: apt-cache search alsa-modules |
| 17:01.01 | Bclass | thanks |
| 17:01.09 | Beleys | je re ++ tard ++ |
| 17:01.30 | Ungy | Dairen go to sid ;-) |
| 17:01.52 | fbi | Ungy: recommending sid as a server is beyond retarded. |
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| 17:02.33 | Ungy | fbi running etch on a server is retarded as well it is the last to get security updates |
| 17:02.44 | azeem | Ungy: please do not promote the use of sid unless you know the person can handle it |
| 17:02.46 | fbi | uh. whatever that meant. |
| 17:02.58 | azeem | Ungy: there is testing-security |
| 17:03.12 | fbi | and i never said _anything_ about testing. |
| 17:03.24 | Ungy | azeem, I do know Darien thanks for the concern though |
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| 17:03.49 | Darien | yeah yeah, blah blah, can anyone suggest a solution to libc6 postinst crashing when I tell it to restart services? |
| 17:04.02 | azeem | Darien: do you have an error message? |
| 17:04.07 | Darien | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:04.39 | azeem | that is likely caused by inetd, not the postinst |
| 17:04.47 | ohad | omry|work, i get the following error " Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code " |
| 17:04.47 | azeem | bash scripts do not tend to cause illegal instructions |
| 17:04.49 | Darien | but the inetd script runs fine |
| 17:05.07 | Strider | Newbie question. I have a script to update dns. It saves the old address whenever it changes. Where should I write/save the file? I am currently removing the file and writing via "echo $IP > /usr/local/$file". Is this OK? |
| 17:06.01 | Gathond | Strider: is it someting that has to survive a reboot? |
| 17:06.44 | Strider | Gathond: yes - although it just bugs the DNS service if I don't save past reboot. |
| 17:06.51 | Ungy | Darien that is rather odd |
| 17:06.59 | zergouille | asg, well i need a different password for each iuser.. |
| 17:07.09 | Gathond | Strider: FHS wise I think either /tmp or /var somewhere would be appropiate, depending wether it should be there after a reboot |
| 17:07.24 | Darien | so here's a question... what will happen if I just exist the libc6 postinst script on the first line? will things break terribly? |
| 17:07.53 | ohad | omry, Ungy -- how do i resolve that error?" |
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| 17:08.37 | Darien | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:08.48 | asg | zergouille: chpasswd (8) - update password file in batch |
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| 17:09.31 | Strider | Gathond: So script in /usr/local/bin and file in /var/local/set_ip/$file |
| 17:09.34 | Ungy | Darien, maybe somethign got borked on your update was this a clean install? |
| 17:09.41 | Darien | Ungy: yep |
| 17:09.43 | Darien | dan@vcard:~$ sudo ldconfig |
| 17:09.43 | Darien | Illegal instruction |
| 17:09.45 | Ungy | ohad did you run apt-get install -f? |
| 17:09.54 | Gathond | Strider: im not quite sure where in /var would be the most appropiate |
| 17:10.12 | ohad | Ungy, yes. |
| 17:10.15 | TheCount | Darien: what exact CPU type? |
| 17:10.22 | Ungy | ohad and you still get the error? |
| 17:10.26 | ohad | Ungy, , i get the following error " Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code " |
| 17:10.38 | Darien | TheCount: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz |
| 17:11.07 | Ungy | Darien, what kernel you got running on that machien |
| 17:11.13 | Strider | Gathond: also although only 1 entry in crontab 0,15,30,45 yet sometimes it runs 2 times.. according to the mail messages from the script output. |
| 17:11.20 | Darien | Ungy: 2.2.20-idepci |
| 17:11.27 | TheCount | Darien: hm. what does 'ls -ald /lib/ld-linux.so.2' say? |
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| 17:11.42 | Darien | TheCount: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 Nov 9 19:49 /lib/ld-linux.so.2 -> ld-2.3.5.so |
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| 17:11.59 | Ungy | ohad never seen that error before |
| 17:12.01 | TheCount | Darien: what does 'dpkg -S /lib/ld-2.3.5.so' say? |
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| 17:12.20 | Darien | TheCount: libc6: /lib/ld-2.3.5.so |
| 17:12.32 | TheCount | Darien: testing or unstable? |
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| 17:12.41 | Darien | TheCount: was going towards testing |
| 17:12.48 | TheCount | Darien: don't. |
| 17:12.56 | Darien | should I try unstable? |
| 17:13.05 | ohad | when trying to install e2fsprogs - i get the following error : [Y/n] dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code " |
| 17:13.11 | ohad | any ideas why? |
| 17:13.14 | Ungy | Darien, is this a production server? |
| 17:13.19 | TheCount | Darien: maybe stick with sarge? :) |
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| 17:13.25 | fbi | jesus |
| 17:13.29 | humbolt | I have an ALPS touchpad and I know how to configure it except for the device option because it sometimes shows up as event4 and sometimes as event5. How can I map this reliably? |
| 17:13.29 | Darien | ohad: run 'echo $PATH' and see what happens |
| 17:13.33 | azeem | ohad: do 'su -' rather than 'su' to become root |
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| 17:13.34 | TheCount | Darien: you can always use selected packages from unstable. |
| 17:13.36 | fbi | you just suggested he runs sid and you don't even know wtf he is doing with it? |
| 17:13.40 | fbi | cluelss |
| 17:13.46 | fbi | Darien: are you running woody? |
| 17:13.53 | Gnea | Darien: if it's a home machine, i would say unstable. if it's a work machine, stick with stable. |
| 17:13.59 | omry|work | ohad, when you do apt-get -f install you get errors? |
| 17:14.08 | Ungy | fbi it is a clean sarge install |
| 17:14.09 | Darien | it's a server, but not one that I can't manage unstable with |
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| 17:14.24 | fbi | clean sarge install with a 2.2.20 kernel? |
| 17:14.29 | Darien | y |
| 17:14.36 | tzafrir_laptop | anybody know of a simple web interface for apt? |
| 17:14.45 | tzafrir_laptop | (besides webmin) |
| 17:14.56 | azeem | tzafrir_laptop: what kind of web interface? |
| 17:15.02 | fbi | heh. how's that work. |
| 17:15.10 | omry|work | tzafrir_laptop, what's wrong with ssh? |
| 17:15.19 | Ungy | fbi not very well apparently |
| 17:15.31 | tzafrir_laptop | something to basically expose the update/upgrade functionality, and not much more |
| 17:15.33 | TheCount | sarge & 2.2? no way. |
| 17:15.36 | ohad | Darien, azeem /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 17:15.42 | fbi | TheCount: both of these guys are on glue. |
| 17:15.50 | tzafrir_laptop | maybe simple packages installation (not removal) |
| 17:15.51 | omry|work | ohad, when you do apt-get -f install you get errors? |
| 17:15.55 | Vindevogel | asg: I did the --force-confmiss thing on all the packages. My /etc/postgresql directory is still not there |
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| 17:16.00 | Darien | hmm |
| 17:16.01 | azeem | tzafrir_laptop: I don't think there is |
| 17:16.07 | Darien | ah, no! this is 3.0! |
| 17:16.11 | Vindevogel | asg: Could it be that there are scripts too ? |
| 17:16.14 | TheCount | fbi: .. Glue is not unix .. |
| 17:16.15 | fbi | Darien: that's woody. |
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| 17:16.17 | Darien | the idiots used an old installation disk |
| 17:16.21 | Ungy | Darien, that is woody |
| 17:16.48 | Ungy | Dairen upgrade to Sarge |
| 17:16.48 | fbi | Darien: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 17:16.50 | azeem | Darien: upgrading directly from woody to testing is not supported |
| 17:17.03 | ohad | Darien, Ungy omry|work -- dpkg-reconfigure e2fsprogs /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: e2fsprogs is broken or not fully installed |
| 17:17.03 | Nirga1 | tzafrir_laptop: why not use a remote X display? :) |
| 17:17.12 | ohad | how do i resolve that? |
| 17:17.14 | azeem | ohad: dpkg --configure -a |
| 17:17.22 | omry|work | ohad, can you answer my question? |
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| 17:17.55 | ohad | omry|work, i already posted the erros i get when i run the apt-get -f install option |
| 17:17.58 | punsad | are there any packages in debian that would allow me to mount a remote directory through a firewall? (e.g. let me "map a drive" on my windows xp computer at work which is actually a directory on my linux server at home) ? I've just used Filezilla which has sftp to this point. |
| 17:17.59 | tzafrir_laptop | Nirga1, I might as well have used a console. But this is basically a head-less system |
| 17:17.59 | ohad | look back |
| 17:18.35 | Darien | hmm |
| 17:18.37 | omry|work | ohad, you said this problem happens when you try to install e2fsprogs |
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| 17:18.51 | omry|work | what happens when you just do "apt-get -f install" |
| 17:18.53 | omry|work | ? |
| 17:18.58 | TheCount | punsad: apt-get install smbfs ; man mount.cifs |
| 17:19.07 | Darien | so what happens if I let apt remove sysvinit temporarily to fix a pre-depends/conflicts loop? |
| 17:19.12 | Darien | is it going to stop init and hose my system? |
| 17:19.15 | ohad | omry|work, yes |
| 17:19.19 | punsad | TheCount: thanks... I'll check it out |
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| 17:19.39 | TheCount | punsad: or in that case, samba |
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| 17:20.00 | TheCount | punsad: webdav is an option as well |
| 17:20.06 | ohad | omry|work, initially i tried to remove that pkg. then it broke in the middle of the removal process. now i need to reinstall it in order to remove it completely so i can install apg |
| 17:20.20 | Ungy | Darien is this system remote? |
| 17:20.25 | Darien | Ungy: yes :/ |
| 17:20.37 | omry|work | ohad, at the moment, if you do "apt-get -f install", you get the error with the path? |
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| 17:21.05 | youssef | Hello. Why does not foomatic detect my net printer ? |
| 17:21.07 | youssef | I have sid |
| 17:21.10 | punsad | TheCount: yes... I use samba at home on my local network. Sounds like I can do this over a wan and through a firewall... I'll check it out |
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| 17:21.32 | zergouille | asg, thanks:) |
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| 17:21.46 | ohad | omry|work, yes |
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| 17:22.01 | bios_ | hi. i am new to linux and noticed that in addition to command line tools and full-blown GUIs, there are tools that draw themselves on the console using characters. which toolkit do these tools use? |
| 17:22.20 | youssef | my printer is a Lexmark E321 |
| 17:22.29 | amphi | bios_: ncurses |
| 17:22.32 | youssef | sorry E312 |
| 17:22.47 | asg | zergouille: you're welcome |
| 17:22.49 | Ungy | Darien I dunno if it will hose your system or not sorry |
| 17:22.53 | omry|work | ohad, did you explicitly remove e2fsprogs ? (apt-get remove e2fsprogs) ? |
| 17:22.55 | Darien | Ungy: ok |
| 17:22.57 | Darien | I think I have an idea |
| 17:23.09 | Ungy | Darien Good luck ;-) |
| 17:23.09 | amphi | bios_: ldd is a handy tool for seeing what libraries a program links to |
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| 17:23.39 | Darien | augh! apt won't even download-only if there's a dependency issue? |
| 17:23.50 | asg | bios_: curses programs are usually written in C but there are bindings for most languages including Perl and Python. Also, there is a 'dialog' command that will allow you to minimally script some curses functionality |
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| 17:24.06 | ohad | omry|work, yes |
| 17:24.14 | KerPlunk | I use sid and firefox...I downloaded the 1.5rc1 a week or so ago..and I use that(I untarred it, and just ran the binary)....How can I apt-get install firefox 1.5 for sid though? |
| 17:24.51 | omry|work | ohad, you should have used the APT::Force thingie. (at least this what worked for me). |
| 17:25.40 | omry|work | ohad, try to get a deb for e2fsprogs (for your distro), and install it with dpkg -i. |
| 17:25.42 | humbolt | As soon as I have my USB mouse attached at startx, it is mouse0/event1 and shifts my touchpad up one device in the stack from mouse2/event4 to mouse3/event5. But using the auto-dev thing always chooses the ps2 interface to the touchpad not the event interface and therefore it does not work either. |
| 17:25.50 | omry|work | maybe this will fix your problem. |
| 17:26.00 | omry|work | ohad, gtg, good luck. |
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| 17:26.19 | morky | hi |
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| 17:27.09 | morky | ive a problem with configing mail server on debian 3.01 |
| 17:27.38 | morky | is there anybody how can help me? |
| 17:28.12 | asg | morky: which mail server? |
| 17:28.15 | Gathond | morky: depends, try being more specific as to what fails and what mail server package |
| 17:28.17 | Ronin | no one can morky until we know more information |
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| 17:28.52 | youssef | see you later |
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| 17:28.57 | morky | i dont know which one |
| 17:28.57 | tzafrir_laptop | Is there a simple (automated) way to know if there are packages to upgrade on the system? |
| 17:29.10 | morky | i just gonna put one on |
| 17:29.35 | asg | morky: it should have come with 'exim' by default or 'exim4' if you are using sarge or higher. |
| 17:29.40 | asg | morky: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 17:30.11 | morky | ok 1 min |
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| 17:30.30 | Rawplayer | re |
| 17:30.36 | ohad | how do i resolve this issue ? : dpkg -i e2fsprogs_1.38-2_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 17:30.40 | ohad | ? |
| 17:30.45 | Nirga1 | tzafrir_laptop: I use apt-get upgrade with --simulate and grep in the result .. :/ |
| 17:30.54 | morky | 3.1 |
| 17:30.55 | eleftherios | a friend has a fileserver on a lan of about 250 machines. Someone has discovered the root password and logs in the fileserver deletes the logs and causes damage. What's the best strategy to catch the intruder full-handed (as soon as he logs in)? |
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| 17:31.06 | asg | morky: then it's sarge. Try 'dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config' |
| 17:31.07 | pedrito | olas |
| 17:31.22 | pedrito | hay alguien?? |
| 17:31.27 | fbi | !es |
| 17:31.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 17:31.53 | pedrito | ola |
| 17:31.59 | pedrito | q tal? |
| 17:32.00 | morky | exim4-config? |
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| 17:32.51 | pedrito | soy de la real_federaci0n_de_piratas_inf0rmaticos |
| 17:32.57 | Ronin | morky: did you do the command that asg said? |
| 17:32.59 | fbi | !tell pedrito about es |
| 17:33.26 | asg | morky: yes, exim4-config |
| 17:33.31 | morky | i have to type dpkg.... in the shell as root? |
| 17:33.32 | fbi | pedrito: we don't care. start talking Debian, in English, or get out. |
| 17:33.36 | asg | morky: yes |
| 17:33.43 | morky | ok |
| 17:33.49 | Ronin | i think your in for a long one asg :) |
| 17:34.17 | asg | Ronin: yeah :/ I'm in and out though so he will have to be patient or yousguys will have to step up :) |
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| 17:34.40 | pedrito | spain |
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| 17:34.53 | tzafrir_laptop | Nirga1, I though about it. One problem is that some packages may be held back |
| 17:35.00 | asg | pedrito: yes, we know that. '/join #debian-es' |
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| 17:35.37 | pedrito | porno?? |
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| 17:35.43 | tuxillo | hi |
| 17:35.46 | tuxillo | hello all |
| 17:35.47 | azeem | pedrito: this channel is about Debian |
| 17:35.50 | asg | pedrito: no |
| 17:35.57 | azeem | pedrito: either stay on topic, or leave |
| 17:35.59 | ml4u6 | kind of offtopic -> i've got an ext2 fs image taken from a disk, i'm attempting to, over nfs, dd it to a different hd. ... question: drive geometry is different, but should that matter? |
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| 17:36.17 | ml4u6 | source drive was partitioned differently than target drive. but afaik, it shouldn't matter one bit. |
| 17:36.24 | tuxillo | I got a problem. when I start my xorg, it appear a lot of flash lines when Im writing. i'm using sis driver. what could it be? |
| 17:36.46 | ml4u6 | target partition is large enough to hold the ext2 image, btw. |
| 17:36.48 | pedrito | someone know porno page? |
| 17:37.04 | morky | ok i see a debian config window |
| 17:37.04 | asg | someone point him to goatse.cx |
| 17:37.14 | azeem | !ops pedrito is annoyingly off-topic |
| 17:37.16 | ml4u6 | goatse's been gone. long time. |
| 17:37.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: pedrito is annoyingly off-topic |
| 17:37.28 | asg | ml4u6: it was re-mirrored though; can't remember where. |
| 17:37.31 | mentor | pedrito: Stop that. |
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| 17:38.05 | mentor | pedrito: This is a Debian related channel. If you have a Debian related question please ask it, anymore off this behaviours, however, will result in your devoicing. |
| 17:38.09 | pedrito | your mother is.... |
| 17:38.19 | tuxillo | wtf! a lot of flash lines that makes watching my CRT very uncomfortable!! does anyone know what's happening with sis driver? thanks |
| 17:38.20 | mentor | heh |
| 17:38.21 | asg | morky: then answer the questions asked. If you don't understand what is being asked, check the mail tutorial first (/msg dpkg mail tutorial) |
| 17:38.22 | Ronin | pedrito: oh thats so original, what are you 5? |
| 17:38.27 | asg | mentor: hah |
| 17:38.33 | mentor | feh |
| 17:38.36 | mentor | script failed |
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| 17:38.46 | pedrito | ronin what?? |
| 17:38.49 | morky | mail sending by smarthost? |
| 17:39.00 | pedrito | admin |
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| 17:39.08 | morky | asg? |
| 17:39.10 | Ronin | morky: may i suggest reading exims webpage? |
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| 17:39.20 | asg | morky: first, you have to make a decision about how your mail is going to be routed. If you normally send mail to your ISP's smtp server, then select smarthost. |
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| 17:39.54 | morky | i want a mail server, pop3 and smtp too |
| 17:39.56 | humbolt | How can I make sure, the touchpad kernel modules are loaded prior to the USB modules?? |
| 17:40.01 | humbolt | If I can do that, my touchpad device would not shift one event interface up (from event4 to event5) if I have an USB mouse installed on boot. |
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| 17:40.09 | jbroome | Ronin: you can suggest it all day long, but i doubt it will work |
| 17:40.22 | asg | morky: pop3 is a separate package. (like courier-pop3) |
| 17:40.35 | mentor | humbolt: If you put them in /etc/modules first, then they will get loaded first, I think |
| 17:40.45 | morky | so what i have to do? |
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| 17:41.29 | Ronin | jbroome: ya i know but i needed the typing practice |
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| 17:42.01 | Seb | are there any ftp command-line clients that support kerberos authentication ? |
| 17:42.42 | Daveman | sure |
| 17:42.48 | asg | Seb: krb5-ftpd - Secure FTP server supporting MIT Kerberos |
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| 17:42.59 | asg | Seb: apt-cache search <keywords> |
| 17:42.59 | bios_ | amphi & asg: thanks a lot |
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| 17:43.23 | Seb | asg: note how I asked for a *client* :) |
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| 17:43.54 | Seb | asg: but yeah, apt-cache search ftp kerberos did yield some |
| 17:43.56 | asg | Seb: then it's in krb5-clients |
| 17:44.02 | Seb | asg: I was just expecting somethign more advanced |
| 17:44.08 | Seb | like lftp or ncftp |
| 17:44.17 | asg | Seb: it's ftp, that's as advanced as it gets! :) |
| 17:44.25 | Seb | asg: you know what I mean ;) |
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| 17:45.22 | asg | Seb: they might be compilable with krb5 support but I don't know for sure. |
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| 17:45.50 | morky | exim4 config done |
| 17:45.58 | morky | what i have to do now? |
| 17:45.58 | Seb | asg: that's a valid point, I didn't think about that |
| 17:45.59 | Chewie[] | Hey, I'm on the latest Debian etch, and udev requires a newer kernel than I have. 2.6.12 IIRC. Does anyone know of a fix? |
| 17:46.09 | Seb | asg: but then, i'd be surprised if Debian didn't do this by default |
| 17:46.19 | Seb | asg: plus, I cannot find anything in the man pages for those 2 about Kerberos |
| 17:46.20 | asg | Seb: me too, that's true. |
| 17:46.32 | Vindevogel | asg: I tried a lot of stuff now, including adding stuff in the apt.conf file. I do not get /etc/postgresql back |
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| 17:46.57 | shadukan | hello ppl |
| 17:47.11 | shadukan | i have a simple question but cannot find out the answer |
| 17:47.14 | azeem | Vindevogel: did you try to purge prostgresql first (possibly backing up any other data which might be left)? |
| 17:47.20 | asg | Vindevogel: try using 'confmiss' on postresql-common also (and any related depends) |
| 17:47.24 | abrotman | Chewie[]: install it . they're called linux-image-2.6.12-etc |
| 17:47.32 | asg | azeem: he deleted the directory manually |
| 17:47.38 | Vindevogel | azeem: via aptitude i got rid of everything |
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| 17:47.51 | Vindevogel | asg: did a confmiss on postgresql, common and client |
| 17:48.12 | azeem | asg: so if he purges it, dpkg/the maintainer scripts should no longer think it is still there? |
| 17:48.18 | asg | morky: http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ (start there and see if that provides any likely avenues for exploration. Also, /msg dpkg mail tutorial) |
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| 17:48.21 | azeem | well, dunno |
| 17:48.30 | Chewie[] | abrotman: Hmm. There's a 2.6.12 already available? Interesting. Wouldn't it be in experimental, though? |
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| 17:48.45 | nprice | Where can I find out when Gnome 2.12 is expcted to be put into unstable? |
| 17:48.51 | asg | azeem: he told me earlier that he manually deleted it. In Debian, if you delete a file, the package assumes that you meant to and doesn't re-install, even after a purge (hence the --force-confmiss in dpkg) |
| 17:49.00 | azeem | nprice: Jordi Mallach's blog, usually |
| 17:49.08 | nprice | Chewie[], 2.6.12 was necessary because 2.6.11 crashed on dual-core amd64 |
| 17:49.10 | eurisko | hi everyone , i am using unstable and i would like to add experimental to the packages list i have changed the configuration file sources.list , but when updating it gives me some errors downloading from Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/../project/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection |
| 17:49.11 | eurisko | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:49.28 | ohad | how do i resolve this issue ? : dpkg -i e2fsprogs_1.38-2_i386.deb dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 17:49.41 | azeem | ohad: how do you become root? |
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| 17:49.51 | Chewie[] | nprice: Ah. |
| 17:49.53 | ohad | azeem, ssh'd into root:) |
| 17:50.00 | azeem | euh |
| 17:50.00 | phaedral | looking for clues on getting X working on a fresh sarge netinstall |
| 17:50.02 | Vindevogel | asg, azeem: rerunning dpkg neither recreates the main cluster |
| 17:50.10 | abrotman | Chewie[]: no .. apt-cache search linux-image-2.6 |
| 17:50.12 | phaedral | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 has not quite done the trick |
| 17:50.16 | fbi | !tell phaedral about setup x |
| 17:50.23 | phaedral | fbi: thankx |
| 17:50.30 | azeem | ohad: so do you have update-rc.d around? |
| 17:50.35 | fbi | oh wait. you already have X installed? |
| 17:50.44 | fbi | phaedral: why is reconfiguring not working |
| 17:51.12 | ohad | azeem, what do you mena "around?" |
| 17:51.17 | ohad | mean |
| 17:51.17 | phaedral | fbi: i'm not slick enough to have a proper answer |
| 17:51.28 | phaedral | gets as far as giving me a bunch of snow |
| 17:51.32 | sandman | What package contains the shadow files? |
| 17:51.39 | phaedral | only error in logs is about generic mouse on /dev/input/mice |
| 17:51.45 | azeem | ohad: like, does "update-rc.d --help" work? |
| 17:51.48 | phaedral | but i've selected psaux |
| 17:51.48 | fbi | phaedral: what kind of mouse device |
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| 17:51.53 | azeem | ohad: do you have /usr/sbin/update-rc.d? |
| 17:51.58 | asg | sandman: shadowconfig (8) - toggle shadow passwords on and off |
| 17:52.04 | phaedral | 3-button hp that came with the box way back when |
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| 17:52.19 | fbi | phaedral: PS/2 input? |
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| 17:52.49 | phaedral | dpkg-reconfigure was defaulting to ImPS/2; will try regular ps/2 |
| 17:53.03 | ohad | azeem, /usr/sbin/update-rc.d -bash: /usr/sbin/update-rc.d: No such file or directory |
| 17:53.24 | azeem | ohad: so your system seems borked |
| 17:53.27 | fbi | phaedral: do you have a scrool wheel? |
| 17:53.36 | fbi | s/scrool/scroll/ |
| 17:53.39 | phaedral | fbi: yes |
| 17:53.44 | ohad | azeem, "update-rc.d --help does not exsit |
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| 17:53.50 | fbi | phaedral: ImPS/2 should work then |
| 17:53.55 | ohad | azeem, how do i fix it? |
| 17:54.01 | azeem | ohad: what does 'dpkg -l sysv-rc | tail -1' say? |
| 17:54.25 | ohad | azeem, dpkg -l sysv-rc | tail -1 No packages found matching sysv-rc. |
| 17:54.27 | shadukan | ok i found it |
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| 17:54.36 | eurisko | hi everyone , i am using unstable and i would like to add experimental to the packages list i have changed the configuration file sources.list , but when updating it gives me some errors downloading from Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/../project/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection |
| 17:54.37 | azeem | ohad: how did you install Debian? |
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| 17:54.54 | ohad | azeem, from a cd |
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| 17:54.59 | azeem | ohad: which version? |
| 17:55.05 | asg | eurisko: /msg dpkg experimental |
| 17:55.11 | eurisko | tks asg |
| 17:55.17 | ohad | azeem, initially woody and then upgraded to testing |
| 17:55.25 | azeem | ohad: from woody to testing? |
| 17:55.33 | ohad | azeem, yes |
| 17:55.34 | azeem | ohad: you should upgrade to sarge first |
| 17:55.40 | ohad | azeem, i have |
| 17:55.46 | Vindevogel | pffffff, i give up, stupid package manageemnt |
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| 17:55.53 | azeem | ohad: did you try apt-get -f install? |
| 17:55.59 | phaedral | switching to ps/2 made no diff |
| 17:56.00 | ohad | azeem, yes. |
| 17:56.01 | azeem | ohad: also, try running aptitude |
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| 17:56.13 | azeem | ohad: what does apt-get -f install say? |
| 17:56.21 | fbi | phaedral: did you try and edit XF86Config-4 at all? |
| 17:56.22 | penguin__ | phppgadmin is not authorizing logins |
| 17:56.23 | phaedral | i've tried manually inputting hsync/vsync, i've tried accepting 17" from "simple" |
| 17:56.24 | Chewie[] | Here goes nothing. |
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| 17:56.31 | penguin__ | What is easiest way to correct this? |
| 17:56.35 | phaedral | fbi: not yet; it's a bit over my head... |
| 17:56.43 | ohad | azeem, , i get the following error " Do you want to continue? [Y/n] dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code " |
| 17:56.52 | phaedral | lemme fire up a new vt and take a looksee |
| 17:56.56 | fbi | phaedral: i'd try another mouse device |
| 17:56.57 | ohad | error code [2] |
| 17:57.02 | asg | penguin__: read /usr/share/doc/<pkg>/README.Debian{.gz} and see if there are extra config steps or gotchas |
| 17:57.21 | penguin__ | Sorry I thought I was in #postgres |
| 17:57.28 | eurisko | asg, besides you don't support experimental does anyone already had problems? i 've added 4 different mirrors, all they all reply with the same mistake |
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| 17:58.05 | asg | eurisko: I've been using Debian for 6 years now and have never had course to use experimental. Feel free to lurk, maybe someone knows. |
| 17:58.28 | phaedral | fbi: no others handy... |
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| 17:59.17 | Chewie[] | Thanks, works great. You rock, abrotman. |
| 17:59.28 | Surg | it says the following but webmin is in fact installed :/ |
| 17:59.29 | Surg | gandalf:/# apt-get -f install |
| 17:59.31 | Surg | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 17:59.33 | Surg | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 17:59.35 | Surg | Correcting dependencies... Done |
| 17:59.35 | Surg | The following extra packages will be installed: |
| 17:59.37 | Surg | webmin |
| 17:59.38 | fbi | phaedral: *shrug* pick one up? they are cheap. ImPS/2 _should_ work for that mouse, if it doesn't either the mouse isn't working or your PS/2 port is borked |
| 18:00.02 | beleys | re |
| 18:00.02 | asg | eurisko: I can tell you that that server is not giving me an error so there is either something wrong with experimental or your source.list entry has a problem. |
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| 18:00.06 | Surg | if i go ahead with the apt-get -f install will it overwrite webmin that is actually installed? |
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| 18:00.23 | azeem | ohad: well, try to download the appropriate sysv-rc .deb yourself and dpkg -i it |
| 18:00.32 | asg | Surg: yes, it will but the upgrade should not change anything unless you modified the code |
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| 18:01.03 | phaedral | fbi: this box was working fine with a debian-derived distro which will remain unnamed; |
| 18:01.05 | asg | Surg: if you installed webmin from source and not in /usr/local or /opt, you will have problems |
| 18:01.16 | phaedral | i made the mistake of thinking it was time to make this a good debian sarge machine |
| 18:01.21 | phaedral | and am paying for my folly |
| 18:01.35 | phaedral | which is to say, i'm disinclined to think it's the hardware |
| 18:01.35 | fbi | phaedral: kernel version |
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| 18:01.48 | Surg | well we use webmin with quite a lot of new modules and things set up so im very dubious whether to proceed as i REALLY dont want to lose my webmin settings ;/ |
| 18:01.55 | Vindevogel | what script is being executed to create the inital postgres cluster ? |
| 18:02.00 | phaedral | whatever the sarge netinst defaults to, 2.4xx? |
| 18:02.00 | asg | Surg: where did you install webmin? |
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| 18:02.24 | ohad | azeem, which sysv-rc should i download? |
| 18:02.24 | asg | Vindevogel: we don't know, look in /var/lib/dpkg/info/postgres* and see if one of the pre/post install scripts does it. |
| 18:02.25 | fbi | phaedral: try installing a 2.6 kernel; /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
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| 18:02.36 | ohad | azeem, how do i find out? |
| 18:02.46 | phaedral | can you tell dpkg to give me a clue on 2.6? |
| 18:02.49 | Surg | well my colleague installed it and he's not sure as it was so long ago but im guessing he installed it from a local file rather than doing an apt-get |
| 18:02.51 | phaedral | please? |
| 18:02.56 | azeem | ohad: packages.debian.org/sysv-rc |
| 18:02.58 | dos000 | anyone know why i get "linux-image-2.6.14-1-386 depends on yaird | initramfs-tools | linux-initramfs-tool; however" yaird does not seem to be found anywhere |
| 18:02.58 | asg | !tell phaedral about 2.6 mouse |
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| 18:03.07 | fbi | phaedral: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 18:03.09 | azeem | ohad: the one matching your currently running version of Debian |
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| 18:03.19 | Vindevogel | asg: no such file or directory |
| 18:03.27 | asg | Vindevogel: /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
| 18:03.33 | Vindevogel | no, postgres |
| 18:03.33 | dos000 | fbi, this is a 2.6.14 kernel build via make-kpkg |
| 18:03.34 | phaedral | asg: thanks, fbi: misread your instructions on talking to dpgk, more thanks; will give a try |
| 18:03.41 | asg | Vindevogel: it isn't a directory, it's a set of files |
| 18:03.49 | fbi | dos000: that's nice |
| 18:04.07 | asg | dos000: what debian version are you using? |
| 18:04.14 | dos000 | fbi, nice ... sarge |
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| 18:04.44 | asg | dos000: well there wouldn't be would there. Did you take a sid or testing kernel-source package? |
| 18:04.55 | dos000 | asg, i am using sarge default kernel install. i had another box and the install went whithout a hintch |
| 18:05.06 | asg | !info yaird sarge |
| 18:05.11 | dos000 | asg, i took stok kernel 2.6.14 |
| 18:05.17 | asg | dos000: sarge doesn't come with 2.6.14 |
| 18:05.20 | bclass | hi, i have installed alsa-base with alsa-modules for my kernel (Sarge : 2.4.27-2) and a alsaconf with the good card and it is didn't work |
| 18:05.26 | asg | dos000: it comes with 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 |
| 18:05.43 | dos000 | asg, 2.4.27 .. i never selected linux26 |
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| 18:05.51 | fbi | bclass: what do you mean 'didn't work'. did alsaconf see your soundcard? |
| 18:06.02 | bclass | no alsa see my card and install it |
| 18:06.09 | bclass | but i dont have any sound... ;) |
| 18:06.10 | Vindevogel | asg: there are a bunch of files ... when I run them, nothing changes |
| 18:06.13 | fbi | bclass: run alsamixer and check levels |
| 18:06.14 | asg | dos000: right but you have acquired a 2.6.14 source package from a non-sarge debian |
| 18:06.25 | bclass | alsalevel are good i have alredy checked ;) |
| 18:06.28 | asg | Vindevogel: don't run them, examine them to see if, in fact, they do anything to create /etc/postgresql |
| 18:06.33 | bclass | on alsamixer |
| 18:06.38 | phaedral | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686; and then? |
| 18:06.43 | fbi | bclass: your media player is configured to use alsa? |
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| 18:06.58 | phaedral | re-run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86? |
| 18:06.59 | bclass | i use xmms and i have installed alsa-xmms |
| 18:07.07 | fbi | phaedral: yes. and then reboot. and then /msg dpkg 2.6 mouse |
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| 18:07.12 | dos000 | asg, i understand that. so i am better off doing the source from unstable then ? |
| 18:07.16 | asg | Vindevogel: you might also just try 'mkdir /etc/postgresql' and running --confmiss on the packages. This may also be due to the fact that you used aptitude which might not handle such things (I don't know, others might) |
| 18:07.16 | phaedral | rockin'; thanks |
| 18:07.51 | fbi | bclass: make sure xmms is using the alsa output plugin in the Preferences, or else install alsa-oss |
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| 18:07.57 | asg | dos000: no, you are better off running 2.6.8 or 2.4.27 unless you have a compelling reason to do so. If you have a compelling reason, you are better off using vanilla sources if you must or finding backports for yaird for stable. |
| 18:08.10 | phaedral | kindof cool to know upgrading the kernel is apt-get easy |
| 18:08.15 | bclass | fbi : i check on xmms (a minute) and i have already install alsa-oss too ;) |
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| 18:09.01 | fbi | bclass: *shrug* this is one of the reasons why i still run oss if at all possible |
| 18:09.06 | mirak | I was wondering if I install grub for amd64 if it will be able to boot on x86 |
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| 18:09.14 | mirak | bootload at least |
| 18:09.21 | asg | mirak: I don't see why it wouldn't be able to |
| 18:09.28 | dos000 | asg, ouch .. i did not realize i needed a bakport ! but i am wondering how this the install worked flawlessly on the other box. I recored all my commands and made a shell script out of it. |
| 18:09.35 | asg | mirak: #debian-amd64 can probably confirm that though. |
| 18:09.40 | Darien | Ungy: fixed it :) |
| 18:09.44 | mirak | asg: ok |
| 18:09.46 | mirak | thanks |
| 18:10.02 | ohad | azeem, trying to install it - i got the following error - pkg -i sysv-rc_2.86.ds1-4_all.deb |
| 18:10.02 | ohad | dpkg: `update-rc.d' not found on PATH. |
| 18:10.02 | ohad | dpkg: 1 expected program(s) not found on PATH. NB: root's PATH should usually contain /usr/local/sbin, /usr/sbin and /sbin. |
| 18:10.04 | asg | dos000: the other box was likely not sarge or was a bobbitt mix. Or, you had a 2.6.14 kernel source before the yaird depend was added. |
| 18:10.05 | bclass | fbi : but if i want that sound works on kde (for example) i need to set it somewhere ? |
| 18:10.07 | asg | dos000: hard to say. |
| 18:10.09 | Darien | Ungy: --force-depends --force-conflicts --force-remove-essential == hooray ;) |
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| 18:10.27 | fbi | bclass: you mean KDE sound events? |
| 18:10.35 | bclass | fbi: yes |
| 18:10.44 | fbi | bclass: not sure. i never use KDE. |
| 18:10.53 | dos000 | asg, also i m trying to install linux-vserver stuff wich supports 2.6.14 |
| 18:10.55 | mirak | asg: I repartitionned with LVM, without touching the containig extended partiton, but now I have a grub error. I exepted seeing at leeast the grub menu |
| 18:11.02 | grandma | hey all...anyone know how i can set the X and Y coords for monitor output (similar to using monitor functions or Sax2 on suse, but i'm on a KVM with multiple machines) X.org, debian sarge |
| 18:11.05 | azeem | ohad: extract the executable from the .deb then and place it in /usr/sbin |
| 18:11.13 | azeem | ohad: then, reinstall sysv-rc via dpkg -i |
| 18:11.14 | pabs3 | dos000: newer kernels here: http://www.backports.org/pending/ |
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| 18:11.23 | Surg | ok so assuming i was to proceed with an apt-get -f install that installed webmin (which is already installed), is there any way to back up all modules and settings and move them back into the new installation easily? |
| 18:11.24 | asg | mirak: oh, did you setup '/' with LVM? I've heard that grub doesn't support '/' on LVM. |
| 18:11.28 | asg | mirak: I could be wrong though. |
| 18:11.37 | mirak | asg: no I have a separate /boot |
| 18:11.44 | asg | Surg: where did you install webmin? |
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| 18:11.50 | asg | mirak: oh, hmmm. |
| 18:11.51 | mirak | asg: but yes grub doesn't load kernel on lvm |
| 18:11.56 | stew | dos000: you are talking about linuxvirtualserver? |
| 18:12.08 | grandma | i've tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i've also tried editing the xorg config manually...my monitor output for this machine is still way off |
| 18:12.13 | mirak | asg: in fact even if it couldn't I could have at least seen the menu with default values isn't it ? or not ? |
| 18:12.21 | dos000 | stew, yes |
| 18:12.22 | pansnap | I downloaded only CD1 of debian and installed (haven't used Debian in a couple years). Now I'm trying to install a few packages using aptitude and see UNSATISFIED dependencies, that I know are in the deb package archuives as stable. How can I have it pull what it can't get locally off of FTP? |
| 18:12.37 | stew | dos000: you might wanna ask in #linux-ha, horms is usually active in there who works on both linuxvirtualserver (maintians ultramonkey.org) and the debian kernels |
| 18:12.37 | azeem | pansnap: apt-setup |
| 18:12.55 | asg | mirak: if it can find /boot, then it can find the kernel and initrd. LVM is outside of my sphere of knowledge though. |
| 18:12.55 | bclass | fbi: i dont understand.. i have two cards sound : sound on motherboard and creative audigy. i Configure on my soundblaster but the sound work on my motherboard |
| 18:13.11 | [TACO] | Anyone here experience enough to help me setup a Samba print server with Server side drivers? |
| 18:13.18 | bclass | fbi: it is card sound driver on soundblaster but it work on my sound coming from motherboard |
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| 18:13.26 | pansnap | azeem: thank you. I'll try that |
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| 18:13.35 | Surg | asg - /etc/webmin is the current installation |
| 18:13.54 | ohad | azeem, so i should download the source pgk .tar.gz? of sys-rc? and place that source under /usr/sbin? and then take the deb pkg and dpkg -i it? |
| 18:13.54 | mirak | asg: but can grub survive without any partition ? |
| 18:14.17 | grandma | pitillo, is krandr a kde app? |
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| 18:14.35 | pitillo | grandma, yes krandrtray |
| 18:14.39 | azeem | ohad: no, extract /usr/sbin/update-rc.d from the .deb |
| 18:14.55 | azeem | ohad: or use http://people.debian.org/~mbanck/update-rc.d |
| 18:15.00 | grandma | pitillo, ah, i don't have kde installed here...how can i do randr manually? i'll google randr and see what i come up with |
| 18:15.33 | Vindevogel | asg: what a PITA, those configs |
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| 18:15.56 | Vindevogel | asg: it executes pg_createcluster, with config file in .... /etc/postgresql |
| 18:16.08 | ohad | azeem, ok, should extract it dir to the /usr/sbin dir ? or a temp dir and then just cp over the update-rc.d file to my /usr/sbin dir? |
| 18:16.20 | azeem | temp dir |
| 18:16.24 | azeem | or the file from the URL above |
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| 18:16.43 | ohad | azeem, and then cp it over? |
| 18:16.46 | azeem | yes |
| 18:17.21 | ohad | azeem, ok, it worked. thanks |
| 18:17.54 | azeem | cool :) |
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| 18:18.12 | bclass | fbi: you there? |
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| 18:18.41 | chema | How can I put a DIVx like a wallpaper? |
| 18:18.43 | grandma | pitillo, thanks |
| 18:18.47 | Vindevogel | asg: I looked into the .conffiles files in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 18:18.58 | Vindevogel | asg: nothing uses a /etc/postgresql dir |
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| 18:19.02 | phaedral | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:19.46 | phaedral | funny thing is, I've got X running fine on my laptop; I'd have thought that would be the harder install |
| 18:19.49 | joe__ | I've just installed Debian, anyone got any idea why I can't hear sound? |
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| 18:20.28 | phaedral | joe__: obvious questions: checked all connections? positive debian has detected/configured your soundcard right? |
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| 18:21.17 | vrkhans | how i can install linux from cd after booting from the rescue floppy |
| 18:21.18 | haugha | damn.. I managed to do controll-c while I was about to upgrade a bunch of packages |
| 18:21.26 | dserodio | hi! how can I find out which packages provide mail-transport-agent ? |
| 18:21.31 | haugha | now I cant install any packages |
| 18:21.32 | joe__ | phaedral, connections are ok since sound work in windows.. as for soundcard configuration i've no idea how to do that |
| 18:21.42 | haugha | doing: apt-get -f install |
| 18:21.46 | phaedral | dangers in loading a live-linux distro, copying XFConfig therefrom, then trying it in place of what dpkg-reconfigure is writing? |
| 18:21.48 | haugha | but it just fails anyway |
| 18:22.00 | haugha | ecc: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
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| 18:22.07 | phaedral | joe__: good luck; debian is great, but it's not newbie friendly as others |
| 18:22.16 | phaedral | your problem is well beyond my abilities |
| 18:22.18 | haugha | libc6-dev <-- that package caused the error |
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| 18:22.33 | vrkhans | any one know how to install linux from cd by starting from the rescue disk |
| 18:22.55 | Fackamato | append root=/dev/hdc1 or whatever the cd partition is? maybe |
| 18:22.57 | Fackamato | I don't know |
| 18:23.06 | Jxpx | anyone know if the cedega 5.0 its available |
| 18:23.22 | licued | Does anyone have experince setting up a VPN Gateweay on Debian/UNIX? Also curious if anyone has experince of accessing a VPN as a client too. |
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| 18:23.43 | th0ger | is openoffice2 not in sarge? |
| 18:23.49 | azeem | th0ger: no |
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| 18:24.14 | stew | th0ger: sarge was released in june openoffice2 wasn't released until very recently |
| 18:24.30 | stew | th0ger: and stable doesn't get new versions of software only security updates |
| 18:24.43 | th0ger | stew: okay |
| 18:24.46 | haugha | I think this is haåppening while i'm upgrading from woody to sarge |
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| 18:25.44 | th0ger | stew: can i easily use only OO2 from unstable? |
| 18:25.58 | stew | th0ger: nope |
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| 18:26.05 | th0ger | stew: dam |
| 18:26.28 | morky | hi again |
| 18:26.45 | stew | th0ger: ask #debian-oo if there are backports available |
| 18:26.47 | morky | i have already read http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ |
| 18:27.06 | morky | but i steal have problem with config |
| 18:27.11 | th0ger | stew: okay, what is a backport? |
| 18:27.11 | morky | mail server |
| 18:27.16 | stew | !backport |
| 18:27.16 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 18:27.42 | haugha | can anyone help me figuring out whats wrong with apt-get? |
| 18:27.46 | haugha | and join #flood |
| 18:27.49 | haugha | so I can paste it |
| 18:28.03 | Jxpx | anyone know where can i download the cedega.50?¿ |
| 18:28.04 | licued | Does anyone have experince setting up a VPN Gateweay on Debian/UNIX? Also curious if anyone has experince of accessing a VPN as a client too. |
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| 18:30.36 | haugha | anyone alive?.. something wrong when I upgrade from woody to sarge!! :\ |
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| 18:31.40 | bibe | haugha : what's wrong? |
| 18:32.00 | lnx^ | hiya, got some problems with apt-get & tetex & unstable a couple of months ago and haven't found a solution yet: http://zux.sjr.fi/lnx/tetex.html |
| 18:32.01 | haugha | Sorry, but the following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 18:32.01 | haugha | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:32.23 | haugha | bibe: and when I try to do: apt-get -f install.. I get a bunch of other error msg's |
| 18:32.23 | morky | asg can u help me? |
| 18:32.40 | lnx^ | if someone would like to take a look at that nice and clean debug log I'd appreciate it ;) |
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| 18:33.13 | Vindevogel | asg |
| 18:33.18 | penguin__ | If nothing shows up in postgres.log, then can I assume that there was no login attempt to postgres |
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| 18:33.26 | penguin__ | ? |
| 18:33.29 | Vindevogel | asg: I just deleted everything that links to postgre |
| 18:33.37 | Vindevogel | all files, including dpkg stuff |
| 18:33.57 | Vindevogel | with slocate, there's not a single file with the name *postgr* |
| 18:34.09 | stew | haugha: what version does "dpkg -l libc6" report? |
| 18:34.19 | Vindevogel | when I run aptitude again, install pg, there's still no postgres database |
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| 18:34.49 | bibe | haugha : did you follow any guide/howto to upgrade? did you apt-get dist-upgrade (and not apt-get upgrade)? |
| 18:35.00 | stew | Vindevogel: try purging the postgres paackage and reinstalling |
| 18:35.19 | Vindevogel | stew: did that |
| 18:35.31 | stew | Vindevogel: what does "dpkg -l postgresql" return? |
| 18:35.38 | Vindevogel | stew: there wasn't a single file left with name *post* |
| 18:35.41 | FarrisG | Are there any comprehensive tools for monitoring system wide resources and health? FS health without bringing down for a full fsck, read/write/wait times on hard drives, RAM, network connections/throughput? |
| 18:36.06 | stew | Vindevogel: what does "dpkg -l postgresql" return? |
| 18:36.18 | stew | Vindevogel: (what is the last line) |
| 18:36.19 | Vindevogel | Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold |
| 18:36.19 | Vindevogel | | Status=Not/Installed/Config-files/Unpacked/Failed-config/Half-installed |
| 18:36.19 | Vindevogel | |/ Err?=(none)/Hold/Reinst-required/X=both-problems (Status,Err: uppercase=bad) |
| 18:36.20 | Vindevogel | ||/ Name Version Description |
| 18:36.20 | Vindevogel | +++-===================-===================-====================================================== |
| 18:36.20 | Vindevogel | ii postgresql-8.0 8.0.3-15 object-relational SQL database, version 8.0 server |
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| 18:36.38 | stew | Vindevogel: ii == installed |
| 18:36.43 | stew | Vindevogel: you need to purge the package |
| 18:36.49 | haugha | bibe: yes.. I did apt-get dist-upgrade.. but I did a controll-c.. and then hell beark loose |
| 18:36.56 | Vindevogel | stew: but I did that ... I think |
| 18:37.04 | Vindevogel | how should i purge ? |
| 18:37.14 | kill2000 | es conmigo |
| 18:37.24 | stew | Vindevogel: apt-get remove --purge postgresql-8.0 |
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| 18:37.35 | stew | Vindevogel: you shouldnt' be deleting files owned by a package by hand |
| 18:37.44 | stew | !wikifaq Vindevogel PackageManagement |
| 18:37.45 | dpkg | Vindevogel: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 18:38.48 | haugha | bibe: dpkg: error processing libc6-dev (--remove): Package is in a very bad inconsistent state - you should reinstall it before attempting a removal. |
| 18:38.57 | bibe | haugha : why did you stop the upgrade? It's not exactly the most straightforward process... |
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| 18:39.12 | Vindevogel | stew: too late, did that hours ago. I hate stuff being left behind. Ever since, reinstalling pg is a pita |
| 18:39.18 | bibe | haugha : then try 'apt-get install libc6-dev' |
| 18:39.46 | Firestarter2 | anyone here have experience with ftape |
| 18:39.47 | haugha | then I get a bunch of other dependencies |
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| 18:40.09 | haugha | bibe: only 5-10 packages is installed.. |
| 18:40.12 | haugha | from sarge |
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| 18:40.18 | bibe | haugha : but apt-get should take care of all dependencies |
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| 18:40.45 | phaedral | I think I have established a bona-fide desired to be true-blue debian |
| 18:40.51 | haugha | bibe: go into #flood.. and i'll show you all the error msg's |
| 18:41.08 | phaedral | so it was pretty fucking annoying to get bounced to #knoppix when pointing xchat to #debian |
| 18:41.13 | goccia | haugha: i've done it from sarge : try apt-get -s install and follow the stream |
| 18:41.14 | Vindevogel | stew: great .... !! The purge seems to do the trick |
| 18:41.16 | stew | haugha: apt-get install the dependencies, if they complain about dependencies, apt-get install those, eventually stuff will either start getting actually installed or you will find out what packages are really causing the problems |
| 18:41.42 | phaedral | meanwhile, having probably shot all chances at getting clues by bitching about getting bounced |
| 18:41.52 | haugha | stew: its maybe 20-30 packages |
| 18:41.55 | haugha | hmm |
| 18:41.58 | stew | Vindevogel: when you remove files, the package management system assumes you did it for a reason and won't replace them, /msg dpkg purge ; /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 18:42.04 | haugha | stew: with new dependencies |
| 18:42.22 | phaedral | knoppix 3.9 yielded the same behavior as dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; snow |
| 18:42.24 | dserodio | please, how can I find out which packages provide mail-transport-agent ? |
| 18:42.28 | Vindevogel | stew: asg told me about the confmiss, but that did not help |
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| 18:42.39 | phaedral | but knoppix 3.2 gives me a working X |
| 18:42.51 | phaedral | thought that was strange enough to share |
| 18:43.09 | stew | you actually should be using aptitude not apt-get for upgrades becuase apt-get from woody can't handle large circular dependencies (this is documented in the release nots for sarge) |
| 18:43.21 | phaedral | nextime: compare this working XFConfig with the useless one from dpkg-reconfigure... |
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| 18:43.58 | radone | Hi, exists any log file where could I found the logs displayed during booting machine? |
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| 18:44.49 | stew | dserodio: apt-cache search mail-transport-agent |
| 18:45.05 | sanoj | dos000: I maintain yaird officially and have a backport for sarge at http://debian.jones.dk/ - tell me if you need the exact URL |
| 18:45.26 | stew | dserodio: or better yet, apt-cache showpkg mail-transport-agent, and look at the reverse-provides section |
| 18:47.20 | stew | radone: /msg dpkg bootlog |
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| 18:52.58 | dswanson1 | does debian's directory structure policies deviate (or add to) the linux standard in any way? |
| 18:53.15 | radone | stew: thanks |
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| 18:54.06 | stew | dswanson1: debian tried to adhere fully to fhs; /msg dpkg fhs |
| 18:54.13 | stew | ^tried^tries |
| 18:54.24 | Vindevogel | stew: my db works, tnx |
| 18:54.29 | stew | Vindevogel: cool |
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| 18:55.09 | dswanson1 | stew: thanks |
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| 18:55.58 | streuner | stew: you are a fucking moron :-) |
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| 18:56.06 | asg | O_o |
| 18:56.12 | streuner | hehe :-) |
| 18:56.14 | bluesfx | using vmware... can I have a 64bit linux guest running on a 32bit windows host? ... (using an Athlon64 cpu of course) |
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| 18:56.37 | nlight | bluesfx, no |
| 18:57.20 | asg | streuner: that didn't come out right |
| 18:57.30 | asg | stew: mwilson detector |
| 18:57.32 | bluesfx | nlight: i'd have to use a 64bit windows? |
| 18:57.39 | haugha | damn.. my system seems totally broken |
| 18:57.42 | streuner | asg: haha |
| 18:57.46 | stew | !be mwilson barbie |
| 18:57.47 | dpkg | What in the world does that have to do with barbie? Other than nothing, of course. |
| 18:57.57 | nlight | bluesfx, if I'm right how vmware uses system resources.. then yes |
| 18:58.04 | asg | !factinfo be mwilson barbie |
| 18:58.04 | dpkg | be mwilson barbie -- created by g4lt <~galt@anonymous-134-50-5-126.tsps1.freenet6.net> at Fri Dec 6 10:25:57 2002 (1069 days); it has been requested 7 times, last by caphuso at Thu Dec 16 06:04:42 2004. |
| 18:58.11 | haugha | aint it possible to get apt-get to resolve all dependencies.. and install them.. even when an error occour |
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| 18:58.34 | haugha | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.34 | haugha | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:58.42 | haugha | thats the main problem |
| 18:58.51 | stew | haugha: not in woody->sarge ; and not if not all dependencies are satisfiable |
| 18:58.57 | stew | haugha: in woody->sarge use aptitude |
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| 18:59.03 | haugha | okay |
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| 18:59.13 | nlight | haugha, apt-get -f install ? |
| 18:59.25 | resiak | stew: Because I'm the channel moron in another channel ;) |
| 18:59.26 | haugha | nlight: yep.. thats when the problems comes |
| 18:59.39 | haugha | stew: I dont got aptitude installed.. |
| 19:00.08 | stew | haugha: install it if possible |
| 19:00.10 | nlight | haugha, can you remove libc6-dev? |
| 19:00.13 | haugha | its not possible |
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| 19:00.32 | stew | haugha: then go back to trying to follow the dependency tree to find a root cause |
| 19:00.52 | sinned | what debian package provides HTTP::Cookie ? |
| 19:00.56 | sinned | perl module |
| 19:00.56 | haugha | stew: its a matter of too many packages which depends on eachother |
| 19:00.59 | nlight | haugha, what does apt-get check return? |
| 19:01.00 | morky | i have problem with configing mail server |
| 19:01.11 | morky | http://www.dcs.gla.ac.uk/~lativyn/articles/debian-mutt/ |
| 19:01.24 | morky | i have already read it |
| 19:01.41 | stew | haugha: right, this is why the release notes for sarge say to use aptitude to upgrade from woody->sarge, no you have to try and deal with it |
| 19:01.45 | stew | or reinstall |
| 19:01.50 | haugha | libdb1-compat: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, libdb3: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, libnss-db: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, make: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed |
| 19:01.54 | eeyore- | omg. i just found my next dream machine :-) iwill zmaxd2. that's friggin' crazy. dual opteron + SLI. |
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| 19:02.03 | eeyore- | bank-account buster for sure |
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| 19:02.05 | morky | the problem is after i run exim4 it dont make any files |
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| 19:02.14 | morky | what i have to use to config the server |
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| 19:02.29 | stew | haugha: apt-get install libc6 |
| 19:02.39 | nlight | haugha, hmm.. interesting.. can you do `apt-get install libc6 libdb1-compat` ? |
| 19:02.40 | charlyessai | essai |
| 19:02.41 | haugha | locales: Depends: glibc-2.2.5-11.5 |
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| 19:03.01 | haugha | got the same error with locales.. on both those commands |
| 19:03.03 | stew | haugha: apt-get install libc6 glibc-2.2.5-11.5 |
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| 19:03.06 | stew | haugha: apt-get install libc6 glibc-2.2.5-11.5 locales |
| 19:03.22 | nlight | stew, yeah, that's gotta work |
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| 19:03.39 | haugha | when i'm trying to install locales.. I get a bunch of other dependencies |
| 19:03.42 | haugha | like.. 20 |
| 19:03.56 | haugha | that also happens if I do: apt-get -f install |
| 19:04.16 | stew | haugha: if you don't wanna figure it out, then make a backup and reinstall from the sarge installer |
| 19:04.21 | stew | dunno what else to tell you |
| 19:04.36 | nlight | haugha, apt-get dist-upgrade .. what about that? |
| 19:04.55 | nlight | I think it does solve 'some' dependency problems |
| 19:05.20 | nlight | Haven't looked what it really does, though |
| 19:05.29 | dos000 | sanoj, i had a typo in there ... sorry for the fuss |
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| 19:06.08 | haugha | nlight, gives me: libdb1-compat: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.2.5-13) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, libdb3: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, libnss-db: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-21) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed, make: Depends: libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4) but 2.2.5-11.5 is installed |
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| 19:06.27 | haugha | ok.. where do I download the sarge installer? |
| 19:06.35 | morky | is there anybody who can help me? to config procmail and fetchmail??? |
| 19:06.38 | haugha | apt-get broke my system:\ |
| 19:06.44 | haugha | so I guess its the only solution |
| 19:06.50 | nlight | haugha, no, you broke your system (: |
| 19:06.58 | lnx^ | I got some issues with a tetex update in unstable (been for a couple of months already). if someone would like to take a look at that nice and clean debug log I'd appreciate it :) http://zux.sjr.fi/lnx/tetex.html, click on the link on that page for the full debug log |
| 19:07.04 | haugha | hehe... depends upon which way you look at it;) |
| 19:07.34 | haugha | someone tell me where to download the sarge installer... I hope I can start it directly from my working pc..? |
| 19:07.37 | enveezee | haugha: why did you address me in #flood like 20 min ago while I was sound asleep ?! |
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| 19:09.28 | haugha | enveezee: did I? |
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| 19:09.38 | morky | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:09.44 | haugha | anyone got an url to the debian-installer? |
| 19:09.49 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 19:10.08 | elvirolo | is libtse3 known not to work porperly in sid ? |
| 19:10.20 | streuner | !d-i haugha |
| 19:10.21 | dpkg | haugha, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 19:10.36 | Fu86^mobil | hi there! |
| 19:10.40 | enveezee | haugha: twice, 13:44, 13:45 ad its 14:10 |
| 19:10.58 | enveezee | haugha: I woke up and had an activity indicator in flood saying I had a msg |
| 19:10.58 | Fu86^mobil | I want to compile my own 2.6-kernel on debian woody |
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| 19:11.14 | haugha | <haugha> enveezee: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 19:11.15 | elvirolo | i'm trying to compile this program : http://kguitartmp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 19:11.23 | Fu86^mobil | is there any special "things" to do? |
| 19:11.27 | haugha | enveezee: hehe.. its part of the error msg I pasted |
| 19:11.36 | elvirolo | and the ./configure says it can't find libtse3 although it is installed |
| 19:11.45 | elvirolo | can anyone help me ? |
| 19:11.49 | enveezee | haugha: ???? your error msg had my nick in it? |
| 19:11.51 | sandman | Is there a way to have gdm use vnc? |
| 19:12.04 | bibe | elvirolo : try installing libtse3-dev |
| 19:12.12 | haugha | enveezee: yep |
| 19:12.21 | nlight | enveezee, strange error message then (; |
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| 19:12.45 | haugha | do I have to burn the debian installer on an cd? |
| 19:12.48 | enveezee | I think I need to make a small disclaimer |
| 19:12.49 | Invader_zim | hi there |
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| 19:12.56 | enveezee | I had nothing to do with that error |
| 19:13.00 | elvirolo | bibe: in fact, i already have |
| 19:13.04 | morky | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:13.07 | dUICE | whas the commmand to get things? > apt-get? |
| 19:13.08 | sanoj | dos000: No problem :-) |
| 19:13.20 | elvirolo | bibe: the ./configure says it can find the includes but not the lib |
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| 19:13.26 | enveezee | software is warrented as-is |
| 19:13.33 | Invader_zim | I just installed debian and i could only choose 800x600 but i wanna be able to run me screen resoloution at 1024x768 how do i change it ? |
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| 19:13.44 | bibe | elvirolo : try ./configure --help, it should... help you to force the path to the libs |
| 19:14.00 | Burn` | hello, how do I let my system use gcc272 and not the standard gcc-3.3? |
| 19:14.01 | haugha | I dont have a burner atm.. |
| 19:14.09 | haugha | or a floppy |
| 19:14.09 | bibe | Invader_zim : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:14.14 | haugha | how can I install debian then? |
| 19:14.24 | Invader_zim | bibe you are a life saver thank you! |
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| 19:14.30 | haugha | but I got a running debian up now.. just need to reinstall |
| 19:14.31 | bibe | Invader_zim :D |
| 19:14.39 | blondie | haugha: why do you need to reinstall? |
| 19:14.42 | bibe | haugha : try debootstrap |
| 19:14.46 | stew | haugha: /msg dpkg debootstrap ; /msg dpkg chroot install |
| 19:15.04 | yos87 | hi there |
| 19:15.09 | stew | blondie: he killed dpkg while it was in the middle of replacing libc6 |
| 19:15.14 | bibe | hi yos87 |
| 19:15.16 | enveezee | I had this genius idea last night to take the cable to my mp3 player and plug it into one of the robots at work and share the two flash drives on it.. that way I can transport games to work and anyone can play them off my mp3 player then I can pull it out and both drives vanish! :P |
| 19:15.22 | yos87 | hi bibe |
| 19:15.26 | Invader_zim | its says its not installed |
| 19:15.29 | haugha | blondie: scroll up.. alot of weird error msg's after I controll-c'ed my apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:15.35 | Invader_zim | must i install that dpkg? |
| 19:15.36 | blondie | oh dear |
| 19:15.48 | yos87 | hi blondie |
| 19:15.49 | sandman | Does GDM listen for a network connection at all? |
| 19:16.02 | blondie | sandman: if you enable xdmcp |
| 19:16.07 | blondie | s/if/iff/ |
| 19:16.16 | elvirolo | bibe: yeah i tried forcing the path to /usr/lib but it still doesn't work |
| 19:16.17 | enveezee | I had supaplex on cd, but mounting and sharing it on cdrom, you had to make a pif using a local CWD that could be written to for data files. |
| 19:16.18 | sandman | blondie: What's that? |
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| 19:16.23 | bibe | sandman : yes, read what blondie wrote |
| 19:16.26 | asg | sandman: iff == if and only if |
| 19:16.30 | enveezee | the floppy drives are busted on most systems |
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| 19:16.50 | enveezee | I reached in the case on one and plugged the floppy back in and it started smoking :P |
| 19:17.03 | blondie | sandman: protocol to allow you to login to X remotely |
| 19:17.07 | enveezee | first time I ever thought a floppy drive could catch fire |
| 19:17.33 | Burn` | hello, how do I let my system use gcc272 and not the standard gcc-3.3? |
| 19:17.44 | goccia | yes : i remeber some floppy burming how to, glue and wierd stuff |
| 19:18.05 | yos87 | sb free to speak me |
| 19:18.23 | bibe | Burn` : try with update-alternatives. but beware of what you do, changing a compiler isn't the easiest thing |
| 19:19.05 | Burn` | bibe: in fact I am trying to compile psybnc good, but it won't :( |
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| 19:20.27 | bibe | Burn` : can't you compile just psybnc with gcc272? use CC=/path/to/gcc272 ./configure; CC=... make; ... |
| 19:20.40 | yos87 | bondie: I have question , does debian work on 750 PIII |
| 19:20.44 | Burn` | bibe: that would be possible, going to test it |
| 19:20.54 | resiak | yos87: Course it does. |
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| 19:21.10 | Gathond | yos87: yes, with no quarantee that every little piece of hardware in the world will |
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| 19:21.16 | skypa | any of you guys know what the timezone et/pt is supposed to mean? |
| 19:21.31 | blondie | eastern/pacific time |
| 19:21.37 | skypa | ty :) |
| 19:21.41 | cusco | skypa: right now is gmt +00 |
| 19:21.43 | blondie | (two time zones) |
| 19:21.45 | cusco | oh |
| 19:21.46 | cusco | :( |
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| 19:21.56 | karsten | blondie: 7 central and mountain. |
| 19:22.06 | blondie | ? |
| 19:22.13 | yos87 | resiak: you mean of course it does! right |
| 19:22.23 | karsten | blondie: It's an old broadcast TV thing. |
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| 19:22.41 | blondie | karsten: ah well i wouldn't know :) |
| 19:23.00 | karsten | blondie: Shows would be scheduled an hour earlier (locally) Central & Mountain times than Eastern & Pacific. Why? I have no idea. |
| 19:23.13 | blastmanu | hi |
| 19:23.17 | yos87 | hi |
| 19:23.18 | blastmanu | how are you ? |
| 19:23.19 | karsten | blondie: So: 8 Eastern & Pacific, 7 Central and Mountain. |
| 19:23.23 | skypa | so 8pm at utc+1 would be what in et/pt time? |
| 19:23.36 | enveezee | man, this pc is running slow as hell |
| 19:23.36 | skypa | trying to figure out when to catch a show on cbs :/ |
| 19:23.40 | blondie | et = gmt -5 |
| 19:23.44 | blondie | pt = gmt -8 |
| 19:23.51 | karsten | skypa: -8 for pacific, |
| 19:23.57 | skypa | I see |
| 19:24.01 | skypa | ty guys :) |
| 19:24.05 | yos87 | sb free to speak me |
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| 19:24.14 | asg | !tell yos87 about ask |
| 19:24.24 | karsten | skypa: If you've got the locales created, you can do: TZ=US/Pacific date |
| 19:24.27 | yos87 | hi kbyte |
| 19:24.38 | tarzeau | i believe the bad mouse cursors (white pointer, black silhouette, like in windows) come with gnome |
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| 19:24.52 | tarzeau | the ugly mouse theme is called Industrial, and it comes with gtk/gnome |
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| 19:25.34 | resiak | tarzeau: Gnome, not Gtk, I'm pretty sure. |
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| 19:26.39 | tarzeau | they really try to be Windows |
| 19:26.47 | blastmanu | good bye |
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| 19:27.05 | KD-Misafir766 | türk |
| 19:27.09 | KD-Misafir766 | varm0131 |
| 19:27.13 | enveezee | xpde tries to be windows |
| 19:27.15 | tarzeau | KD-Misafir766: var, #debian.tr |
| 19:27.16 | enveezee | !tr |
| 19:27.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
| 19:27.26 | tarzeau | enveezee: so do Gnome and KDE |
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| 19:27.55 | enveezee | tarzeau: kde clearly allows emulation of windows, mac, or just using its own fugly schemas |
| 19:28.01 | resiak | !start a wm war |
| 19:28.02 | dpkg | GNOME sucks! |
| 19:28.07 | resiak | !botsnack |
| 19:28.12 | abrotman | isn't windows a fugly schema ? |
| 19:28.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes it's very bad |
| 19:28.23 | asg | resiak: botsnack was removed for some reason |
| 19:28.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: and those others, try to be bad too. LOL |
| 19:28.45 | morky | re asg |
| 19:28.58 | abrotman | !snack |
| 19:28.58 | dpkg | Yess, pleaaaaaaaase |
| 19:29.05 | morky | i have ready what u gave me |
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| 19:29.16 | morky | but its isnt work |
| 19:29.40 | morky | i run exim4 config its ok |
| 19:29.45 | resiak | asg: Just like the replies when he doesn't know, which I had to kludge back into raseac :( |
| 19:29.57 | asg | morky: those were suggestions, not a complete guide just to give you an idea of what you could do. |
| 19:30.03 | morky | but didnt make any files |
| 19:30.05 | asg | resiak: yeah |
| 19:30.07 | enveezee | I need to buy some oatmeal and make those oatmeal peanut butter bars |
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| 19:30.29 | enveezee | need white icing and peanut butter and chocolate syrup too |
| 19:30.36 | morky | ok then what i have to do? |
| 19:30.53 | joe__ | When playing sound I get the error: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) ... any ideas how I sort this? |
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| 19:31.17 | morky | procmail, fechmail ... re alreay installed |
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| 19:31.53 | bibe | Since upgrading to kernel 2.6.14 (both vanilla and sid packages) I can't find /sys/class/net/eth1/wireless/ directory. Where can I look for infrastructure changes in the sysfs? |
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| 19:32.23 | Invader_zim | bibe your questions are 1000 years my inteligence |
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| 19:32.33 | Invader_zim | past* |
| 19:32.51 | Invader_zim | JK |
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| 19:33.00 | mebsd | in automobile, how much better is the factory parts than oem parts |
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| 19:34.12 | bibe | Invader_zim : I wrote a 10-line script to set the wireless led's status on or off depending on whether the inet interface is wireless or not... I relied on that dir to check if the interface was wireless or not |
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| 19:34.57 | enveezee | mebsd: 42 |
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| 19:35.19 | Invader_zim | bibe: can you get it going with your new script? |
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| 19:35.38 | bibe | so I can ask the question in a different way: during ifup and ifdown scripts, how can I check whether $IFACE interface is wireless? |
| 19:35.39 | Diegote | Hi all. I use gdm and Fluxbox, and I need to define an environment variable that should be visible for my X session. Where should I define it? |
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| 19:35.56 | elvirolo | hi again sry |
| 19:35.58 | bibe | Invader_zim : with the new kernel, my script doesn't work anymore |
| 19:36.13 | mebsd | enveezee: ? |
| 19:36.18 | elvirolo | any ideas about my problem guys ? |
| 19:36.20 | bibe | Diegote : /etc/profile? |
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| 19:36.40 | enveezee | mebsd: the answer is, 42. |
| 19:36.41 | morky | asg? |
| 19:36.45 | Invader_zim | bibe: are you sure the new kernel doesnt need different dependancies? |
| 19:37.07 | Diegote | bibe: uhm, that's system-wide... I would like it to be user-defined |
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| 19:37.30 | Diegote | ie, just for my user |
| 19:37.34 | bibe | Invader_zim : kernel-image requires new dependencies, but I compiled it |
| 19:37.36 | fbi | Diegote: ~/.bash_profile |
| 19:38.03 | bibe | Diegote : yes, ~/.bash_profile |
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| 19:38.37 | tosh | anyone know a proggie/tool to recursively get webpages, but similar to the way as if a user would browse the page, so a session variable is used |
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| 19:39.00 | tosh | wget doesn't honor the session variables on the pages |
| 19:39.10 | ecobit | anyone know of a good tutorial/explanation of ldap and its use(s) |
| 19:39.10 | pureone | curl? |
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| 19:39.35 | pureone | ecobit i think the ldp has some |
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| 19:39.39 | wireddd | is there a linux tool for applying ppf patches? |
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| 19:40.02 | ble | how can i view the version of my cedega? |
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| 19:40.08 | Diegote | bibe, fbi: I need to set up an environment variable for OpenOffice, and since I usually don't run it from the command line, I think ~/.bash_profile is not the best place to place it... |
| 19:40.17 | Invader_zim | bibe: i only started using Debian today so im not so familiar with the compiling yet but soon as i got a answer i will let you know |
| 19:40.34 | ble | how can i view the version of my cedega? |
| 19:40.36 | haugha | I stated earlier that I tried to upgrade from woody to sarge.. and got some kinda error msg.. |
| 19:40.36 | abrotman | !pae |
| 19:40.38 | karsten | Diegote: Sure it is. |
| 19:40.39 | tarzeau | can fc-cache mess up bitmap/truetype fonts for gtk1? |
| 19:40.42 | abrotman | hey .. it used to be there! |
| 19:40.46 | haugha | aint it possible to downgrade to woody again? |
| 19:40.54 | stew | !downgrade |
| 19:40.54 | dpkg | from memory, downgrade is not possible with apt-get currently. No future support is anticipated. Some programs change the binary format of their files in a way that cannot be rolled back later. If you find you want to try going from unstable/testing => stable, then read http://www.debianplanet.org/node.php?id=880 or The Debian Reference Section 6.2.7, or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/downgrade.html |
| 19:40.54 | haugha | since I only installed maybe 5-10 packages |
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| 19:40.59 | ble | how can i view the version of my cedega? |
| 19:41.03 | tarzeau | haugha: no |
| 19:41.06 | karsten | !lose abrotman |
| 19:41.07 | dpkg | abrotman: You Lose. |
| 19:41.13 | stew | haugha: libc6 is probably the most critical package on your system |
| 19:41.18 | fbi | Diegote: any environment variables you set in ~/.bash_profile will be set as soon as you log in, doesn't matter if you are in console, or in an X session |
| 19:41.25 | Invader_zim | !XFree86 |
| 19:41.25 | dpkg | well, xfree86 is proof that world has gone mad, or a free open-source implementation of X11. http://www.xfree86.org/ or ask me about "install xf4" or "x.org", or something that moves so slowly, it doesn't feel like it's moved in years |
| 19:41.30 | karsten | abrotman: 11:41 <dpkg> Factoid search of '*pae*' by key (1): paenguin. |
| 19:41.33 | haugha | stew: yep.. |
| 19:41.36 | abrotman | karsten: i see |
| 19:41.44 | stew | haugha: its definately one that can't be downgraded |
| 19:41.45 | Invader_zim | !install xf4 |
| 19:41.45 | pureone | ble dpkg -l | cedeage .... or cedeage -v or -V |
| 19:41.48 | dpkg | rumour has it, install xf4 is apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4" |
| 19:41.58 | Diegote | bibe, karsten: Oh, I didn't know that. Thanks! |
| 19:41.59 | haugha | stew: my problem is that I need to backup alot of things.. before I reinstall.. so I dont want to do that |
| 19:42.00 | pureone | er dpkg -l | grep cedeage |
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| 19:42.13 | Invader_zim | !set up x |
| 19:42.13 | dpkg | somebody said set up x was First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 19:42.19 | stew | haugha: actually if you look at that last link in the downgrade factoid, you will see him rolling just about every package but libc6 |
| 19:42.45 | Invader_zim | NO i said yes to frame buffer |
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| 19:42.50 | stew | haugha: then you have to get to the bottom of the dependencies |
| 19:42.55 | abrotman | stew: where "but libc6" is the issue :) |
| 19:43.08 | stew | yup |
| 19:43.08 | ble | pureone, jxpx@dhcppc0:~$ cedeage -v |
| 19:43.08 | ble | bash: cedeage: command not found |
| 19:43.12 | haugha | stew: I cant see how thats possible |
| 19:43.30 | haugha | like.. its just not depencencies.. its conflicts too |
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| 19:44.13 | stew | haugha: impossible or hard? |
| 19:45.24 | haugha | I dunno.. I just get confused.. since its too many packages |
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| 19:47.05 | stew | haugha: apt-get install libc6 glibc-2.2.5-11.5 ; if you get, but x depends on y, add y to the list, repeat until you get something like "is not installable" then we'll help you figure that out |
| 19:47.10 | Invader_zim | bibe: i dont seem to come right man the Xfree86-config doesnt wanna run its says please instal but i already installed it with the standard installation |
| 19:47.33 | licued | Anyone have experince connecting to a SonicWall VPN using Racoon/IPSec w/ Debian? |
| 19:47.47 | Invader_zim | but when i just run Xfree86-config its goes in but then when i restart it loaded a different login screen |
| 19:48.04 | fbi | wtf is Xfre86-config ? |
| 19:48.18 | fbi | s/Xfre68/Xfree86/ |
| 19:48.24 | fbi | god dammit |
| 19:48.25 | ble | anyone can help me? i try to install cedega 5.0 i descompress the file , it give me 3 folders etc , opt , usr., now what must i do? |
| 19:48.31 | Invader_zim | XFree86 |
| 19:48.32 | stew | Invader_zim: /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx |
| 19:48.33 | Invader_zim | sorry |
| 19:48.44 | Invader_zim | thank you |
| 19:48.48 | fbi | Invader_zim: don't use xf86config (if that's what you are talking about) |
| 19:49.00 | Invader_zim | unfortunatly its too late |
| 19:49.08 | fbi | do what stew said to fix it then |
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| 19:49.11 | Invader_zim | because my log in is all stuffed now |
| 19:49.14 | stew | ble: #cedega |
| 19:49.22 | Invader_zim | i will thank you guys i preciate the help |
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| 19:49.47 | Invader_zim | im still a newbie like a person who just start counter-strike and cant even buy a ak 47 yet |
| 19:49.59 | klync | which pkg contains a utility to format a fat32 partition? |
| 19:50.06 | fbi | yet? when _can_ you? they are illegal |
| 19:50.13 | fbi | unless you're in afghanistan |
| 19:50.21 | Invader_zim | oi shit im busted |
| 19:50.30 | Invader_zim | why you think my nick is invader |
| 19:50.31 | Invader_zim | LOL |
| 19:50.35 | fbi | pffffft |
| 19:50.36 | KerPlunk | Which index.html file is used when you install apache on sid? |
| 19:50.36 | stew | klync: dosfstools |
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| 19:50.52 | klync | stew: ty |
| 19:51.03 | cirdan | AKs are not illegal in the US |
| 19:51.17 | stew | klync: /var/www/index.html |
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| 19:51.21 | stew | KerPlunk: ^^^ |
| 19:51.26 | klync | stew: hee |
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| 19:51.39 | KerPlunk | thanks stew |
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| 19:52.09 | KerPlunk | thanks stew |
| 19:52.10 | KerPlunk | lol |
| 19:52.12 | wally | g'day |
| 19:52.14 | cirdan | ok...running debian sid with my own vanilla kernel... |
| 19:52.21 | KerPlunk | By default it puts it in /var/www/apache2-default/index.html.en |
| 19:52.24 | wally | is there a way to write xhost +ip to some conf file? |
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| 19:52.33 | KerPlunk | stew: I was checking the config file and all |
| 19:52.34 | KerPlunk | lol |
| 19:52.35 | cirdan | seem to be getting a panic w/large net activity, not nothing is dumped to the screen |
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| 19:52.48 | bibe | cirdan : you're brave... ;) |
| 19:52.57 | cirdan | machine just stops everything, no hd, no ping reply... |
| 19:53.06 | cirdan | 2.6.14 and 2.5.13 |
| 19:53.10 | cirdan | any idea how to debug it? |
| 19:53.27 | stew | cirdan: #kernelnewbies |
| 19:53.34 | morky | what progrem should i use for mailserver (pop3) |
| 19:53.46 | morky | ? |
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| 19:54.10 | bibe | morky : try courier-pop |
| 19:54.11 | djp | should i be concerned with system email messages and if so can i collect them using evolution? |
| 19:54.22 | cirdan | stew: i hope they are helpful, as ##linux and #kernel were useless |
| 19:54.34 | cirdan | stew: did they stop printing paniclogs to the screen recently? |
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| 19:54.50 | Azar | ok I have a ton of questions: Open Office in Debian Sarge. What is required for it, does it comes with Sarge? I upgraded to Sarge from Woody I don't have OO |
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| 19:55.32 | Azar | damn bad timing, everyone is at lunch |
| 19:55.34 | cirdan | Azar: apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 19:55.39 | bibe | djp : configure your MTA (exim4, or postfix, or whatever) to deliver root and postmaster mail to your local user, then configure an account in Evolution using "local delivery" |
| 19:55.47 | Azar | cirdan, I use Openbox, will OO run on it? |
| 19:55.49 | GNUdist | Azar: either go to oo.org and get it, or, apt-get install as cirdan says |
| 19:55.51 | bibe | Azar : I've just finished dinner |
| 19:55.54 | Invader_zim | Im running xserver-xfree86 now its asks me to specify my bus i got a geforce 440 what you thing i should type in? |
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| 19:56.00 | Azar | :) |
| 19:56.06 | cirdan | Invader_zim: nothing |
| 19:56.11 | fbi | Invader_zim: hit Enter |
| 19:56.20 | Invader_zim | indeed thank you |
| 19:56.25 | bibe | Azar : http://www.reallylinux.com/docs/oo2install.shtml |
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| 19:56.43 | djp | bibe, thanks. i gather it is necessary to be aware of any system mail. would that be adviseable? |
| 19:56.46 | Azar | Invader_zim, all you need to specify is the complete name of your video card, when it prompts you |
| 19:56.46 | GNUdist | Invader_zim: That question is in your xserver-xfree86? You just press the enter key to pass through it... |
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| 19:56.52 | Azar | thanks bibe |
| 19:57.16 | bibe | djp : surely, it's fundamental to your system |
| 19:57.18 | Azar | oh bibe I was just on reading that one before I came here |
| 19:57.34 | bibe | Azar : I tried and it worked ok |
| 19:57.36 | djp | bibe. cheers |
| 19:57.37 | GNUdist | Seen the toombstone? "Connection reset by peer"? |
| 19:57.44 | mikesol | hey folks, i notice that udev and hotplug seem to be going through relationship difficulties, any reccommendations on where i can read about what's going on |
| 19:57.55 | Invader_zim | the truth is i just typed in Nvidia 440MX |
| 19:57.57 | Invader_zim | is that right? |
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| 19:58.07 | chris99 | Anyone uses the MGA module for matrox cards? |
| 19:58.09 | thingfish | it doesn't at all care what you call your video card. |
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| 19:58.21 | GNUdist | Invader_zim, yes that is fine, as you are defining a name... |
| 19:58.23 | Azar | hmm I see it requires Gnome 2.0 or higher required for Assistive Technology Tools |
| 19:58.23 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:58.28 | bibe | mikesol : they essentially do the same thing, using both is _evil_ |
| 19:58.42 | bibe | Azar : don't use ATT |
| 19:58.47 | Invader_zim | sweet i said 64000 KB |
| 19:58.48 | EmleyMoor | I'm having a problem with kronolith |
| 19:58.50 | Invader_zim | for memory |
| 19:58.54 | mikesol | bibe: okay, because i haven't dist-upgraded my unstable in a couple weeks (it was Just Working (tm)) |
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| 19:58.57 | Azar | Invader_zim, mine for example is GeForce2 MX/MX 400 < |
| 19:59.06 | EmleyMoor | It is querying mysql for a date in a format that isn't in there |
| 19:59.13 | haugha | xlibs-data: Conflicts: xlibs <-- what does that mean?.. |
| 19:59.16 | thingfish | Invader_zim: you have 65536 |
| 19:59.17 | Azar | ok bibe, :) thanks again |
| 19:59.17 | fbi | Invader_zim: there is no such thing, you probably wanted 65536 (and you don't even need to put anything there, either) |
| 19:59.18 | haugha | that I can only have one of them? |
| 19:59.20 | mikesol | bibe: and now it seems i have to choose. i thought udev just did /dev stuff, and hotplug did the modules and whatnot |
| 19:59.24 | Invader_zim | i see but maybe i should of said Geforce 4 440MX |
| 19:59.36 | thingfish | name is arbitrary. |
| 19:59.37 | Invader_zim | oh 65536 |
| 19:59.37 | GNUdist | It is only a name tag! |
| 19:59.44 | thingfish | you could call it homer simpson. |
| 19:59.47 | Invader_zim | nono i wont get the sam performance then |
| 19:59.52 | fbi | Invader_zim: you can leave that blank, X will pick it up on it's own |
| 19:59.55 | Azar | Invader_zim, you can redo that and it will be : GeForce2 MX/MX 440 |
| 19:59.59 | De_Mon | thingfish can I call it bob? |
| 20:00.00 | Invader_zim | i need to squaze everything out so that i can play quake 2 |
| 20:00.10 | thingfish | De_Mon: yes, or even shirley. |
| 20:00.11 | GNUdist | Well, Homer might need a beer or 2 now and then... and glows in the dark|! |
| 20:00.15 | Invader_zim | I see thank you Azar |
| 20:00.20 | fbi | dude. X will know how much ram is onboard. |
| 20:00.30 | fbi | you don't need to put _anything_. |
| 20:00.37 | Invader_zim | oh i see linux is so cool |
| 20:00.40 | mikesol | X knows everything, except where your children are at 11 PM |
| 20:00.44 | thingfish | hehe |
| 20:00.45 | chris99 | "modprobe mga_vid.ko" tells me "FATAL: Module mga_vid.ko not found.". Anyone knows what's wrong here? |
| 20:00.59 | Invader_zim | hehe thank god it doesnt know where i am at 11pm |
| 20:01.07 | sandman | gdmXnest is supposed to run Xnest with gdm running in it, yes? |
| 20:01.08 | De_Mon | i asked it where my underwear yesterday night and it didn't know :( |
| 20:01.11 | mikesol | alright so would I be right to move over to UDEV alone with no Hotplug? |
| 20:01.13 | De_Mon | *was |
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| 20:01.25 | tuulroy | If I want to upgrade samba to latest version at http://us5.samba.org/samba/ftp/Binary_Packages/Debian/samba/3/ |
| 20:01.25 | tuulroy | using apt-get, what do I put in sources-list? |
| 20:01.53 | djp | bibe, is it ok to use foo@localhost.localdomain for my email address when setting up a local delivery account in evolution to collect system mail? |
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| 20:01.53 | GNUdist | Sources.list should alread go to the Deb sites! |
| 20:01.55 | Azar | wtf #openbox was terminated? |
| 20:02.09 | haugha | locales: Depends: glibc-2.2.5-11.5 <-- how can I fix this dependencie? |
| 20:02.10 | chris99 | "modprobe mga_vid.ko" tells me "FATAL: Module mga_vid.ko not found.". Anyone knows what's wrong here? |
| 20:02.16 | haugha | stew: ? |
| 20:02.20 | fbi | tuulroy: download the *.deb; use dpkg -i |
| 20:02.21 | beowu1f | would anyone happen to perhaps know much about sharing internet connections on linux(ubuntu) machine to allow others pc's (XP,gentoo) to connect through to net?? |
| 20:02.26 | Invader_zim | Yipee its perfect now it works |
| 20:02.29 | morky | can u tell me how to config courier-pop? |
| 20:02.29 | Invader_zim | thank you guys |
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| 20:03.05 | mikesol | beowu1f: try http://www.indyramp.com/masq/ipmasq-HOWTO.html |
| 20:03.11 | GNUdist | chriss99: you don't have a module mga.... |
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| 20:03.40 | chris99 | GNUdist: I do. It's in front of me. But modprobe keeps saying "FATAL: Module mga_vid.ko not found.". I'm in the same directory. |
| 20:03.41 | GNUdist | chriss00: you modporbed for something not compiled into your system! |
| 20:03.52 | beowu1f | mikesol thnx. will give it a read |
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| 20:04.08 | tuulroy | GNUdist:It does, but Deb sites don't have samba 3.0.20 |
| 20:04.12 | mikesol | chris99, you shouldn't have to type .ko |
| 20:04.13 | takatumi | chris99: try it without the .ko |
| 20:04.16 | azeem | chris99: modprobe doesn't check your current directory, it searches /lib/modules |
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| 20:04.23 | GNUdist | Did you apt-get update/upgrade/autoclean and then updatedb? |
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| 20:05.01 | chris99 | I actually compiled this module using "fakeroot make-kpkg modules_image", it should match my system. The module is under /lib/module, to be more precise: /lib/modules/2.6.8/misc. |
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| 20:05.18 | GNUdist | chris99, azeem is correct |
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| 20:06.01 | chris99 | There's another directory "/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686" though. So I got 2 directories for the 2.6 kernel. Is this correct? |
| 20:06.04 | StereoSkit | d00ds, how can i get debian woody release? seems theres no link from the d.o site |
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| 20:06.22 | patricius | how to unrar anything in linux? I've downloaded unrar, but i have never decompressed a single .rar file due to, always the same error, 'file header broken'!!! Help! How to unrar in Linux? |
| 20:06.30 | takatumi | StereoSkit: why not sarge? |
| 20:06.30 | GNUdist | did you cd /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686 and check the ls? |
| 20:06.33 | raven3x7 | im looking for a way to get a base system(x is not required ill apt-get that later) + kernelsources + compile tools with minimum cd downloads. should downloading the first install cd be enough or do i need another one for the sources? |
| 20:06.40 | pureone | patricius unrar e foo.rar |
| 20:06.49 | StereoSkit | takatumi: i just want to try woody |
| 20:06.56 | morky | can u tell me how to config courier-pop? |
| 20:06.57 | Serge_K | patricius: which version of unrar? |
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| 20:07.12 | patricius | 2.71 |
| 20:07.23 | patricius | unrar e - does not work either |
| 20:07.29 | patricius | o_O |
| 20:07.41 | StereoSkit | does anyone have woody links to download and install? |
| 20:07.42 | pureone | maybe the rar file is corrupt ? |
| 20:07.50 | patricius | all of them? :| |
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| 20:07.56 | Serge_K | patricius: its a way old. seems you're trying to decompress rar v 3 archive |
| 20:08.06 | patricius | o_O |
| 20:08.09 | patricius | ahhhhaaaa |
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| 20:08.13 | chris99 | GNUdist: /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686 contains something. But "fakeroot make-kpkg modules_image" made a package which installed itself into "/lib/modules/". Maybe I should try copying the file (it's just one .ko") to the :/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686 directory. |
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| 20:08.27 | Serge_K | patricius: install rar from debian etch |
| 20:08.27 | patricius | Serge_K : so I'll get the newest version |
| 20:08.36 | Serge_K | patricius: yep |
| 20:08.41 | patricius | thx |
| 20:08.58 | chris99 | patricius: it may be wrong but: unrar x <file>? |
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| 20:09.10 | Invader_zim | what i find really wiered is when my login screen loads i cant seem to be able to choose between sessions it loads into Gnome straight instead of letting me choose |
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| 20:09.13 | fbi | StereoSkit: http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/debian-minicd/woody/ |
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| 20:09.28 | patricius | chris99 : it seems that i have too old unrar |
| 20:09.32 | GNUdist | chriss99: but, leave off the .ko ?? |
| 20:09.41 | Serge_K | patricius: I have no idea.. I use rar , not unrar,.. it can compress too |
| 20:09.41 | Zap-W | what ver of debianized apache2 in sarge has Large File Support? |
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| 20:09.43 | karsten | patricius: There's a free and a non-free unrar IIRC. |
| 20:10.01 | karsten | patricius: Nonstandard MSFT archiving format. apt-cache search rar |
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| 20:10.19 | StereoSkit | fbi: tnx |
| 20:10.31 | morky | can u tell me how to config courier-pop? |
| 20:10.31 | bibe | djp : still there? |
| 20:10.36 | abrotman | !u |
| 20:10.37 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:10.39 | fbi | StereoSkit: don't thank me, thank Google (where you should have checked) |
| 20:10.50 | abrotman | fbi == google ? |
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| 20:10.55 | zorrgs | can any one here explain why /etc/init.d/networking stop start restart don't work for me |
| 20:10.55 | Serge_K | karsten: RAR is not MSFT.. it is a standard russian archiver |
| 20:10.59 | fbi | abrotman: shh! don't tell anyone! |
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| 20:11.03 | zorrgs | and ifup or ifdown does |
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| 20:11.13 | StereoSkit | fbi: actually did i didnt find any link inside debian.org |
| 20:11.22 | chris99 | GNUdist: It's all the same, with or without .ko. But I'll copy the kernel module to the existing directory. l8r |
| 20:11.25 | GNU_ | zorrgs, can you be more descriptive? |
| 20:11.33 | dondelelcaro | zorrgs: could be any number of things; most likely is that you don't have auto enabled for those interfaces. |
| 20:11.43 | fbi | StereoSkit: obviously, the link i gave you isn't debian.org so it's unofficial |
| 20:11.49 | haugha | locales: Depends: glibc-2.2.5-11.5 |
| 20:11.55 | fbi | StereoSkit: why don't you want to run Sarge anyway |
| 20:11.57 | haugha | now I only got that dependencie left!:) |
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| 20:12.11 | haugha | but its not working to add glibc-2.2.5-11.5 |
| 20:12.12 | GNUdist | Daily, every time I come here, I learn | less> not | MORE> (hehe) |
| 20:12.25 | zorrgs | dondelelcaro: no I put auto eth0 auto br0 and lo etc at the top |
| 20:12.25 | StereoSkit | fbi: theres a guy who wants his server with woody, not sarge~ |
| 20:12.39 | licued | damn |
| 20:12.44 | licued | where are the masta's when you really need them:P |
| 20:12.48 | patricius | Yeeeaaahhhh!!! THX ALL!!! :D |
| 20:12.54 | zorrgs | dondelelcaro: and ifdown -a worked a charm |
| 20:12.56 | fbi | StereoSkit: that link has what he wants then, get down with your badself |
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| 20:13.03 | TriKster-Abacus | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqqwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 20:13.10 | Tortel | !ops Ban please! |
| 20:13.12 | TriKster-Abacus | aaaaaaaaa6r47wu76666666666hellogugrygucbhfdcmjvh,jxcvsjxc bjcx mcvgtyretfr7e6yti76y67wwqswysszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzwt4z]]]]]adadfasdfasfd |
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| 20:13.14 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Ban please! |
| 20:13.15 | TriKster-Abacus | OMG |
| 20:13.17 | TriKster-Abacus | SHIT, sorry, my kid got a hold of my laptop |
| 20:13.17 | ribnitz | hello |
| 20:13.19 | TriKster-Abacus | OMG |
| 20:13.21 | TriKster-Abacus | sorry, sorry |
| 20:13.22 | Tortel | lol |
| 20:13.25 | Zap-W | haha |
| 20:13.25 | zorrgs | Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaan |
| 20:13.28 | Invader_zim | LOL |
| 20:13.37 | zorrgs | oh |
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| 20:13.37 | zorrgs | lol |
| 20:13.37 | zorrgs | noooooooo |
| 20:13.37 | Tortel | !ops nvmind |
| 20:13.37 | Tortel | :P |
| 20:13.39 | djp | bibe, still here |
| 20:13.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: nvmind |
| 20:13.42 | bibe | djp: foo@localhost.localdomain is ok, is it a local account? |
| 20:13.43 | zorrgs | nooooooooo BAN! |
| 20:13.44 | zorrgs | :P |
| 20:13.51 | Tortel | ok, works too |
| 20:13.54 | haugha | Note, selecting libc6 instead of glibc-2.2.5-11.5, locales: Depends: glibc-2.2.5-11.5 |
| 20:13.56 | Invader_zim | shame |
| 20:14.00 | harfooz | hi all. I'm having a problem with a TEAC cd burner and Sarge that I posted to the debian-user list, but haven't gotten any responses. Anyone available that can help with some troubleshooting? |
| 20:14.02 | haugha | how do correct this? |
| 20:14.17 | djp | bibe, yes |
| 20:14.22 | zorrgs | dondelelcaro: ifdown -a worked a charm so i don't think thats a problem |
| 20:14.23 | ribnitz | harfooz: (only general) |
| 20:14.30 | ribnitz | harfooz: and only in channel |
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| 20:14.37 | zorrgs | dondelelcaro: any ideas? |
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| 20:14.55 | harfooz | ribnitz, ok -- The problem is that I can't burn in either 2.4.x or 2.6.8 in Debian. |
| 20:15.12 | harfooz | I've run cdrecord -scanbus along with saved output from k3b to help with troubleshooting. |
| 20:15.14 | beardy | harfooz: Using what type of burner, and which software? |
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| 20:15.37 | ribnitz | harfooz: I assume that thing is an IDE/ATAPI thing? |
| 20:15.39 | StereoSkit | fbi: yup tnx0r :D |
| 20:15.39 | harfooz | teac DW-552G and I've always used K3B in other distributions. |
| 20:15.44 | harfooz | ribnitz, yes. |
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| 20:15.58 | fbi | StereoSkit: no problem |
| 20:16.04 | TriKster-Abacus | really, really sorry, please forgive me... |
| 20:16.05 | zorrgs | GNU_: basicaly ifdown -a will down all my interfaces fine (cause i have them as auto bla in /etc/network/interfaces) |
| 20:16.06 | patricius | I've installed unrar 3.5 as root and now root uses rar 3.5 but other users 2.7. LOL ;] Can anyone explainme why? |
| 20:16.08 | ribnitz | harfooz: cdrecord -scanbus DEV=ATAPI: ? |
| 20:16.08 | Invader_zim | how do i set my debian to log into KDE automatically? |
| 20:16.10 | bibe | djp : ok, so use it. send a mail with 'echo test |mail -s test foo@localhost.localdomain' and set your Evolution account to check into /var/mail/foo |
| 20:16.17 | haugha | anyone know why it says: "Note, selecting libc6 instead of glibc-2.2.5-11.5".. even if I spesify glibc-2.2.5-11.5 to install with apt? |
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| 20:16.24 | harfooz | ribnits, ok hang on let me see what that gives me. |
| 20:16.28 | TriKster-Abacus | anyhow, I have a dual opteron, and I want to use debian 32bit... but it hangs, is there a work around? |
| 20:16.46 | beardy | TriKster-Abacus: Don't worry, you wouldn't be here if you weren't forgiven ;) |
| 20:16.47 | zorrgs | gnu: but /etc/init.d/networking start stop restart does notthing |
| 20:16.47 | ribnitz | harfooz: should give a listing, icluding the cd burner. |
| 20:16.49 | djp | bibe, will do. checked and yes... working. thanks for your advice bibe. |
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| 20:16.53 | TriKster-Abacus | thanks beardy |
| 20:17.13 | TriKster-Abacus | my 4 year old got a hold of my laptop I guess... |
| 20:17.15 | harfooz | ribnitz, cdrecord: Bad Option: DEV=ATAPI. |
| 20:17.27 | ribnitz | harfooz: try with lowecase dev.. |
| 20:17.28 | TriKster-Abacus | I sure didn't type all that craziness! 8-( |
| 20:17.32 | Azar | the AliEn installation tutorial was written for RedHat, do we get it from apt ? |
| 20:17.43 | ribnitz | harfooz: read manpage for cdrecord, search for ATAPI |
| 20:17.46 | EmleyMoor | alien is in Debian, so yes |
| 20:17.53 | haugha | anyone? |
| 20:17.53 | Azar | thanks EmleyMoor |
| 20:18.00 | harfooz | ribnitz, ok |
| 20:18.04 | beardy | Azar: What do you want to install? Are you sure it's not packaged? |
| 20:18.07 | haugha | i'm into deep problems with apt-get.. trying to resolve some dependencies |
| 20:18.10 | Invader_zim | how do i set my debian to log into KDE automatically can anyone plz help me out |
| 20:18.24 | haugha | just go a few steps left to solve it |
| 20:18.25 | chris99 | GNUdist: Seems to work. I copied the module to the existing directory. Seems the "fakeroot make-kpkg modules_image" installed it in the wrong dir (missing the ".2-686" at the end). Or there's a link from /lib/modules/2.6.8 to /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686 missing. |
| 20:18.30 | Azar | beardy, I was just reading this and I guess Id like to have it |
| 20:18.41 | Azar | http://www.desktoplinux.com/news/NS4565820337.html |
| 20:19.05 | ribnitz | harfooz: also, do we talk kernels 2.6.x up to 2.6.7 or from 2.6.8? |
| 20:19.07 | Azar | OO2.0 comes in .rpm format |
| 20:19.16 | chealer | Invader_zim: did you install kdm? |
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| 20:19.28 | beardy | Azar: OpenOffice.org? That is packaged. |
| 20:19.31 | Invader_zim | yeah i got KDM installed |
| 20:19.43 | harfooz | ribnitz, I've tried both stock 2.6.8 and 2.4.27 kernels. |
| 20:19.43 | Azar | beardy, I do not have it, I upgraded to Sarge |
| 20:19.50 | Invader_zim | My login doesnt look like the standard one anymore |
| 20:19.52 | chealer | Invader_zim: does it start automatically at boot? |
| 20:19.55 | harfooz | ribnitz, I've also tried running k3b as root. |
| 20:20.02 | Invader_zim | no i would like to start it automatically |
| 20:20.04 | GNUdist | Watching three children, so I was gone... missed a bit!? |
| 20:20.10 | Azar | hmm I have it? never seen it |
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| 20:20.11 | Invader_zim | it goes into Gnome staright |
| 20:20.13 | mymayer | how to install that package into a debian sarge stable ? http://packages.debian.org/testing/web/libapache-mod-php5 |
| 20:20.14 | Zap-W | libapache2-mod-php4 depends on apache2-mpm-prefork ? is there a verson for apache2-mpm-worker? |
| 20:20.16 | chealer | Invader_zim: ask #kde or #debian-kde |
| 20:20.20 | ribnitz | harfooz: k3b does nothing else that run cdrecord wirth special opts. |
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| 20:20.45 | ribnitz | beardy: Ooo, also in the 2.0 flavor? |
| 20:20.47 | harfooz | ribnitz, I have some debugging output from K3B. Would you mind to take a peek at it? |
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| 20:20.54 | beardy | Azar: Just install the package openoffice.org, and /msg dpkg search |
| 20:20.56 | harfooz | http://penguinsolutions.org/teacproblem.txt |
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| 20:21.05 | chealer | Zap-W: no |
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| 20:21.09 | Azar | beardy will do , thanks |
| 20:21.22 | Invader_zim | !#kde autologin |
| 20:21.29 | ribnitz | harfooz: I dont need to; cdrecord -scanbus (with some opts) should show the device. |
| 20:21.36 | beardy | Azar: When you install debian you install a base system, after that it's your choice what to install. |
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| 20:21.44 | bahamat | does anybody know why yule (samhain logging server) is not in debian? |
| 20:22.09 | Zap-W | chealer: really? |
| 20:22.09 | Tagor | Hi |
| 20:22.17 | ribnitz | bahamat: could it be non-free? |
| 20:22.32 | Tagor | I accidantally remove /etc/apache. But now I can't apt-get install apache again |
| 20:22.36 | Azar | beardy the installation was Woody then I went up to Sarge thru aptitude |
| 20:22.39 | Tagor | Can someone tell me if it is possible to reinstall apache? |
| 20:22.41 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: are you available for a blootbot question? |
| 20:22.43 | Tagor | And overwrite all files |
| 20:22.45 | bahamat | ribnitz: could be, but I didn't think so |
| 20:22.54 | bahamat | ribnitz: samhain is free |
| 20:23.33 | ribnitz | bahamat: as in beer? |
| 20:23.33 | chealer | Zap-W: not a binary debian package. you can probably recompile a package that accepts another mpm. the README may document that |
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| 20:24.02 | beardy | Azar: Ok, aptitude is nice for browsing the list of packages, / to search. |
| 20:24.06 | Limbeaux | i would apt-get remove apache then apt-get install apache |
| 20:24.10 | ble | anyone can help me? i try to install a program i descompress the file , it give me 3 folders etc , opt , usr., now what must i do? |
| 20:24.11 | bahamat | ribnitz: gpl |
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| 20:24.28 | chealer | ble: which program? |
| 20:24.29 | ribnitz | Any known issues with X.orgf keyboard mapping on less common (sparc64) hw? |
| 20:24.30 | Zap-W | Limbeaux: what dood would that do |
| 20:24.32 | bahamat | ribnitz: it looks like samhain and yule use the same source |
| 20:24.48 | beardy | Limbeaux: I would purge, assuming that's the effect he is after. |
| 20:24.50 | ribnitz | bahamat: could one be part of the other? |
| 20:24.50 | Tagor | Nobody? |
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| 20:24.54 | ble | chealer , cedega |
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| 20:25.10 | bahamat | ribnitz: I've been looking for traces of yule in the samhain deb, but I can't find it |
| 20:25.10 | chealer | ble: cedega is not supported on this channel |
| 20:25.17 | Zap-W | how can there not be a libapache2-mod-php4 for mpm-worker ver |
| 20:25.19 | ziupiu | Tagor, remove, then install |
| 20:25.20 | ble | but can u help me |
| 20:25.20 | tree | cedega sucks |
| 20:25.28 | ble | its only the instalation |
| 20:25.34 | Tagor | doesn't work, ziupiu, I get a lot of errors |
| 20:25.35 | ribnitz | bahamat: what is samhain/yule? |
| 20:25.41 | beardy | tree: That is irrelevant. Offtopic here anyway. |
| 20:25.43 | bahamat | ribnitz: some of the documentation makes it appear as though you need to compile yourself if you want client/server mode, I was hoping someone could confirm or deny that |
| 20:25.49 | bahamat | ribnitz: integrity monitoring |
| 20:26.12 | ribnitz | bahamat: I am not that far yet. |
| 20:26.13 | EmleyMoor | I need some serious help with kronolith - tried setting up horde on mysql 4.0 and 4.1. With 4.0, kronolith queries for the date in the wrong format. With 4.1 recurring appointments don't recur without an end date. |
| 20:26.23 | EmleyMoor | (this is all on sarge) |
| 20:26.29 | Limbeaux | that would clear apache from apt and then you can reinstall. being that he rm'd /etc/apache, he del his config files anyway . also, that is easier than d/l and compiling apache |
| 20:26.31 | ble | fuk u |
| 20:26.45 | fbi | ble: go play in traffic. |
| 20:26.48 | beardy | !u |
| 20:26.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 20:26.53 | ribnitz | EmleyMoor: Horde packages I fiund need a lot of extra work. |
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| 20:27.12 | Gokee2 | Hey all I can`t seem to get java working in firefox.... What should I do? I have tried apt-getting things and tried installing the java thingy on the java site.... How can I make it work? |
| 20:27.15 | ribnitz | spleing is hart. :) |
| 20:27.24 | beardy | Gokee2: /topic |
| 20:27.27 | zorrgs | hey is there i way ican isue a restart that just does what the reset button on my pc does |
| 20:27.27 | beardy | !java |
| 20:27.27 | dpkg | hmm... java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 20:27.30 | EmleyMoor | ribnitz: I know - but it doesn't even seem possible |
| 20:27.35 | zorrgs | so not shutdown -r |
| 20:27.41 | bahamat | Gokee2: you need to make a symlink to the plugin in firefox's plugin dir |
| 20:27.45 | licued | Anyone have experiince setting up a VPN with Debian? |
| 20:27.46 | fbi | zorrgs: reboot ? |
| 20:27.47 | ziupiu | Tagor, apt-get --reinstall install apache2? |
| 20:27.59 | beardy | licued: Most likely. Please ask your question. |
| 20:28.01 | Gokee2 | bahamat, how do I do that? |
| 20:28.01 | ribnitz | EmleyMoor: I had a version working fine, that was cvs thogh, and i think mysql 3.x |
| 20:28.07 | licued | beardy, nice! :) |
| 20:28.12 | etyger | zorrgs : yes, type 'su', then your password, then 'reboot' |
| 20:28.17 | zorrgs | fbi: dosn't that go thru the proper shutdown |
| 20:28.28 | licued | beardy, been trying to find someone who could forever :)... well what I have is Racoon installed, and I'mt rying to connect to the VPN GW |
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| 20:28.34 | fbi | zorrgs: uh, yes it does. wtf are you attempting to do? |
| 20:28.38 | EmleyMoor | ribnitz: I had it working from etch until last week |
| 20:28.40 | licued | I've been reading this tutorial.. http://www.funknet.org/doc/tunnel/l2tp.xml |
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| 20:28.48 | licued | with little luck :/ |
| 20:28.52 | beardy | licued: /msg dpkg ask, do not adress it to me. |
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| 20:29.04 | ribnitz | EmleyMoor: I switched to simpler solutions. |
| 20:29.07 | Zap-W | and in apache2-common docs they strongly recommend moving to worker MPM |
| 20:29.17 | fbi | zorrgs: forcing a shutdown/reboot without unmounting filesystems etc. is a great way to bork your system |
| 20:29.19 | zorrgs | fbi: like if you are at the grub screan and you press alt - ctrl - delete |
| 20:29.22 | EmleyMoor | The only problem with simpler solutions is they don't do what I need |
| 20:29.25 | raven3x7 | bahamat you use "ln" in cli |
| 20:29.29 | Tagor | ziupiu >> Then I get a lot of errors: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/7swtfk89.html |
| 20:29.32 | harfooz | ribnitz, here's some information that might be helpful: 1,0,0 100) 'TEAC ", 'DW-552G ' 'N4K1' Removable CD-ROM' |
| 20:29.38 | bahamat | Gokee2: ln -s sourcefile destfile |
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| 20:29.41 | bahamat | raven3x7: ya think? |
| 20:29.49 | zorrgs | fbi: yeah so is a power cut but it happens :P |
| 20:29.58 | fbi | zorrgs: that's what ups are for |
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| 20:30.06 | ribnitz | harfooz: so 1,0,0 are your scsi/ATAPI Ids. |
| 20:30.20 | ribnitz | harfooz: how did ya find them? |
| 20:30.28 | zorrgs | fbi: true anyway is it imposible? |
| 20:30.31 | EmleyMoor | Nobody is responding on #horde or I'd ask there |
| 20:30.48 | ribnitz | EmleyMoor: horde works with mailing lists. |
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| 20:31.05 | fbi | zorrgs: no idea, and i have no idea why you want to do such a thing. reboot, or issue the shutdown command, or you are asking for damage to your hardware |
| 20:31.12 | EmleyMoor | For some value of "works" |
| 20:31.24 | vip-vs | hi folks! |
| 20:31.36 | ribnitz | EmleyMoor: I made good experience with the horde-dev list. |
| 20:31.37 | harfooz | with the cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus command |
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| 20:31.46 | raven3x7 | bahamat, or vice versa i alwas confuse the order :). if it reversed its gonna tell ya that the file already exists |
| 20:31.53 | harfooz | ribnitz, with the cdrecord dev=ATA: -scanbus command |
| 20:31.54 | beardy | zorrgs: What are you trying to do? |
| 20:31.54 | zorrgs | fbi: for the record does hiting your reset button damage hard ware???? |
| 20:31.55 | ribnitz | harfooz: there you have yourt options. |
| 20:32.06 | zorrgs | fbi: don't you mean software? |
| 20:32.12 | ribnitz | harfooz: cdrecord dev=ATA: ... |
| 20:32.15 | fbi | zorrgs: potentially, yes, if you aren't letting the system shut down |
| 20:32.19 | bahamat | zorrgs: it can damage your data |
| 20:32.23 | fbi | zorrgs: no, i mean hardware |
| 20:32.53 | harfooz | ribnitz, thank you! I'm going to try it out now. |
| 20:32.53 | Zap-W | anyone here having issues with serving large Files in apache2 sarge |
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| 20:33.04 | bahamat | zorrgs: if you really want an imediate shutdown look into the magic sysrq key, specifically the s, u and b (in that order) keys |
| 20:33.06 | zorrgs | fbi: only if your harddrvies are mount though? right? |
| 20:33.06 | fbi | zorrgs: partitions need to be unmounted properly before a shutdown, or you risk damaging your disk(s) |
| 20:33.10 | ribnitz | harfooz: dev=1,0,0 .. |
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| 20:33.32 | beardy | What's with the hurry to shutdown? |
| 20:33.39 | ribnitz | zorrgs: what are you trying to do? |
| 20:33.51 | ziupiu | Tagor, apt-get --purge remove apache2 complains too? |
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| 20:33.58 | beardy | ribnitz: already tried that.. |
| 20:34.00 | xnet | whats a respectable ping time to get from google? |
| 20:34.01 | bahamat | beardy: sometimes I do it through a console server if my colo'd server is dead |
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| 20:34.14 | bahamat | xnet: 70? |
| 20:34.15 | harfooz | ribnitz, would a symbolic link be appropriate to set this so k3b can burn? |
| 20:34.20 | M | ola |
| 20:34.26 | M | hi |
| 20:34.29 | bucky | ziupiu, i don't think he has apache2 installed... maybe apache1.3 |
| 20:34.48 | bucky | that's what the meta package apache installs |
| 20:34.48 | beardy | bahamat: After the first two times I'd find out why it happens.. |
| 20:34.54 | zorrgs | ribnitz: i just use live cds sometimes thats all |
| 20:35.00 | Tagor | That works, thanks ziupiu |
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| 20:35.30 | bahamat | beardy: I know why, disk controller firmware has bugs, so does kernel driver |
| 20:35.40 | ribnitz | zorrgs: there the filesystems are mounted read only. Please note however, that esp. XFS do not like power losses. |
| 20:36.00 | beardy | bahamat: sounds like craphardware for a server IMHO |
| 20:36.11 | bahamat | beardy: it doesn't happen anymore since I downgraded that host to 2.4.27, but I keep all my servers hooked up to a console server just in case |
| 20:36.29 | bahamat | beardy: admittedly so, but I didn't purchase it |
| 20:36.31 | beardy | bahamat: Yeah, that's good. |
| 20:36.38 | ribnitz | Any Oos 2.0 packages yet? |
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| 20:37.09 | zorrgs | fbi: so if im using a live cd like ubuntu's live cd it woruld be fine? |
| 20:37.10 | licued | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:37.11 | beardy | bahamat: What exactly do you mean by a "console server" a box with a few serial ports, or..? |
| 20:37.12 | bahamat | beardy: the magic sysrq key has saved me several trips to the colo, which is an hour drive away |
| 20:37.17 | licued | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.25 | licued | I get the error : |
| 20:37.25 | licued | Nov 9 16:23:44 localhost racoon: DEBUG: open /var/run/racoon/racoon.sock as racoon management. |
| 20:37.25 | licued | Nov 9 16:23:44 localhost racoon: ERROR: failed to bind to address x.x.x.x. [500] (Cannot assign requested address). |
| 20:37.27 | ribnitz | harfooz: all you need to burn as non-root is a suid cdrecord.. |
| 20:37.30 | beardy | bahamat: It's a good thing yes. |
| 20:37.30 | licued | that's the error I get when I look at /var/log/syslog right after doing '/etc/init.d/racoon restart' |
| 20:37.31 | vip-vs | I got some really strange problem over here: when compiling from debian kernel sources (linux-source-2.6.12_2.6.12-10_all.deb) for Intel P4 with Hyperthreading, I get only one CPU in /proc/cpuinfo, when doing the same with vanilla sources (2.6.12-6) I get two! .. |
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| 20:37.41 | bahamat | beardy: essentially, yes, console servers can go up to 48 ports I think |
| 20:37.42 | zinx | bahamat: watchdog blz |
| 20:37.44 | fbi | !info openoffice.org sid |
| 20:37.48 | zorrgs | bahamat: thanks very interesting |
| 20:37.48 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (OpenOffice.org Office suite version 2.0), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.0.0-2 (sid), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 200 kB |
| 20:37.53 | vip-vs | so... is there a bug in the debian kernel sources? |
| 20:38.05 | Strider | My script is being run twice by cron. I emptied crontab with "crontab -r". I then created a crontab.txt file. Contents 0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/myscript - ran "crontab crontab.txt" and the script runs twice on the quarter hour. How do I get it to run only once. |
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| 20:38.09 | bahamat | zinx: ? |
| 20:38.12 | phaedral | !beer phaedral |
| 20:38.12 | beardy | vip-vs: ? |
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| 20:38.29 | fbi | zorrgs: i guess, livecds run off of cd and ramdisk. i still don't know why you can't wait 30 seconds to shut down. |
| 20:38.37 | phaedral | the XF86Config-4 from Knoppix 3.2 fixed my X problems on this fresh sarge netinst |
| 20:38.44 | vip-vs | beardy: ... something wrong with my question? |
| 20:38.47 | ribnitz | fbi: no ,i more mean the 100 mb or so packages, not the metapackage |
| 20:38.57 | phaedral | fbi: thanks again for the encouragement |
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| 20:39.01 | ribnitz | fbi: but thanks. |
| 20:39.09 | ribnitz | fbi: will that work on a sarge? |
| 20:39.10 | fbi | no problem and no problem |
| 20:39.12 | bahamat | fbi: probably in case someone walks in on him when he's booting to something he's not allowed to boot from |
| 20:39.19 | beardy | vip-vs: Yes. Why do you think there is a bug in it, at least have some argument. |
| 20:39.23 | fbi | bahamat: that was my original thought |
| 20:39.35 | vekpos | hello! i installed the nvidia-driver and now my xserver crashes with the error "no screens found" |
| 20:39.39 | vip-vs | I guess my question can be seen as the argument.. |
| 20:39.44 | beardy | !drxx vekpos |
| 20:39.45 | dpkg | vekpos: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 20:40.09 | fbi | zorrgs: livecds will mount any mountable partitions on your system, again, if you force an improper shutdown you risk damage |
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| 20:40.13 | vekpos | i used this command to set it up! |
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| 20:40.15 | beardy | vekpos: And read the drivers documentation, the README or what they've called it. |
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| 20:40.24 | Danar | cedega setup wizard is saying i don't have opengl direct rendering, but glxinfo says i do |
| 20:40.27 | vekpos | uhm.... ok. |
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| 20:41.18 | Danar | can anyone help? |
| 20:41.34 | beardy | vekpos: I don't remember all the things, but essentially, choose "nvidia" not "nv" in dpkg-reconfigure xandsoon, and perhaps a few other things. |
| 20:41.36 | zinx | Danar: transgaming can |
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| 20:42.36 | vekpos | beardy: normally, i installed another computer successfully |
| 20:42.42 | mboso | is there a way to display '<prev' on a webpage without using the <pre> tag? the first angle bracket is the problem i guess. |
| 20:42.58 | zorrgs | thanks all |
| 20:43.00 | zorrgs | http://www.linuxhowtos.org/Tips%20and%20Tricks/sysrq.htm |
| 20:43.07 | vekpos | beardy: but this time i got an old onboard-riva128 |
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| 20:43.21 | Danar | zinx, so you think glxinfo is right, and cedega is wrong? |
| 20:43.29 | beardy | vekpos: If this one is not exactly identical (and not even then) the configuration will differ, the keyboard, mouse and so on. |
| 20:43.30 | sandman | Does Xnest read ~/.xinitrc? |
| 20:43.44 | zinx | Danar: i don't know/care, but transgaming provides support for its product, and #debian knows very little about it. |
| 20:43.45 | vip-vs | beardy: anyway ... I tried te get SMT to work with the debian kernel sources (2.6.12-10) on a P4 HT but only got one cpu in /proc/cpuinfo (where the should be 2)..doing almost the same config on vanilla sources dit work ..so did the debian standard patches break this kernel option? |
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| 20:44.03 | davrieb | zorrgs: use < |
| 20:44.08 | mboso | oops wrong channel |
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| 20:44.57 | beardy | vip-vs: Why not use the stock kernels? |
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| 20:44.58 | davrieb | zorrgs: sorry tis should go to mboso |
| 20:44.58 | Danar | zinx, well, you seem to be assuming that i need support for cedega :p afaik i don't actually have direct rendering. that's why i'm here |
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| 20:44.58 | davrieb | :) |
| 20:45.12 | mhall | How can I make GCC force an error when code in a function is using an unititialized value or there is a code path in a non-void function that does not generate a return value. |
| 20:45.12 | vip-vs | beardy: shouldn't SMP/SMT work with the debian kernel sources as well? |
| 20:45.35 | beardy | vip-vs: But no, if they did, there would be a lot of noise about it. |
| 20:45.46 | beardy | vip-vs: Of course. |
| 20:46.04 | zinx | Danar: there's an easy way to test. run a native GL game (i.e., something like tuxracer); if you get > 1fps, you have direct rendering. |
| 20:46.25 | zinx | battery.charge: 008 |
| 20:46.41 | vip-vs | beardy: yes of course ... and I didn't find such noise ... then it must be me doing something wrong |
| 20:46.45 | zinx | mmyeah, i'll be leaving anytime now |
| 20:46.52 | beardy | vip-vs: But please answer, why are you compiling a kernel? |
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| 20:47.12 | vip-vs | beardy: strange thing is ... I'm using almost exactly the same config |
| 20:47.22 | Danar | zinx, it appears to be giving more than 16 fps, though it doesn't say on screen |
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| 20:47.25 | beardy | vip-vs: Probably, that is usually the reason. |
| 20:47.26 | vip-vs | beardy: because of the vserver-patches I need |
| 20:47.27 | jonkri | am i the only one experiencing connection refused problems from cvs on sourceforge projects? |
| 20:47.34 | beardy | vip-vs: Ok |
| 20:47.35 | zinx | Danar: Then go bug transgaming :) |
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| 20:47.50 | r3tex | how do i switch between graphics implementations? |
| 20:47.55 | r3tex | like ati and xfree? |
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| 20:48.02 | beardy | vip-vs: Check your config again, make sure you haven't forgot something or made some wrong choices. |
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| 20:48.12 | Danar | zinx, glxgears gives: 2925 frames in 5.0 seconds = 585.000 FPS |
| 20:48.16 | marty | how do i build a .bin file into a .deb package? |
| 20:48.42 | beardy | that's the way.. |
| 20:48.48 | vip-vs | beardy: I checked it out today in the #vserver channel .... moest important options were set. |
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| 20:49.01 | kaouete | hi |
| 20:49.10 | licued | beardy, did you check it out? |
| 20:49.28 | beardy | vip-vs: I don't know about that, I meant the cpu choices and such. |
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| 20:49.33 | sandman | How to make my Xnest startup with a window manager? |
| 20:49.34 | pennybags | hey |
| 20:49.34 | beardy | licued: Check what out? |
| 20:49.41 | licued | you said 'msg dpkg' and I did |
| 20:49.48 | licued | the question I posted abotu VPN |
| 20:49.48 | sandman | Right now it just starts up with that black-and-white background thing (gray, whatever you want to call it) |
| 20:49.49 | pennybags | any ladies in here of just greasy nerds????? |
| 20:49.52 | vip-vs | beardy: thnx anyway .. I'll look further |
| 20:50.05 | beardy | licued: Yes, I saw it, and I answered. |
| 20:50.05 | pennybags | ??? |
| 20:50.06 | groogs | is it possible to only get prompted for the passphrase for ~/.ssh/id_rsa once, or is it simpler to just not use a passphrase and make sure that the file is properly secured ? |
| 20:50.17 | Strider | In debian where are the cron files kept? I used "crontab crontab.txt" and the script runs but the script is not in /etc/cron* |
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| 20:50.19 | sandman | pennybags: I'm a hot chick. Talk nerdy to me. And secondly, you're asking to get banned. |
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| 20:50.21 | pennybags | promt u pu the ass |
| 20:50.58 | beardy | licued: What I meant was, I in particular do not know the anser to your question, but if you just ask it, to the whole channel, perhaps someone knows, and if they feel like it, they will answer you. |
| 20:51.03 | groogs | Strider: /var/spool/cron |
| 20:51.25 | licued | hrmm i didn't even see your answer.. I just scroleld back up :/ |
| 20:51.58 | StereoSkit | doods, i cant read or visualize correctly characteres in japanese, wich fonts do i have to install in order to do do? |
| 20:52.16 | beardy | licued: "< beardy> licued: /msg dpkg ask, do not adress it to me." roughly 20 minutes ago |
| 20:52.36 | licued | right |
| 20:52.37 | licued | I did that |
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| 20:53.21 | eod | anyone can help me? i try to install a program i descompress the file , it give me 3 folders etc , opt , usr., now what must i do? |
| 20:53.33 | TiMiDo | eod read the README |
| 20:53.35 | TiMiDo | or the INSTALL |
| 20:53.35 | EmleyMoor | eod: What kind of file? |
| 20:53.36 | thecoolestcow | hey, i'm trying to install cedega from the CVS, but i got a bunch of problems from the "make" part of hte install. anyone able to help me out? |
| 20:53.40 | Strider | groogs: thanks but now I am more confused. There is only a directory for root, no other user. I cat'd the file & my cron line is only in there once yet the script runs twice each period. |
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| 20:53.48 | beardy | licued: Did you write exactly this '/msg dpkg ask' (without the '') in your irc-client, and read what it said? |
| 20:53.51 | Azar | what is an Xconsole? |
| 20:53.51 | eod | EmleyMoor, wine |
| 20:53.57 | groogs | StereoSkit: apt-cache search fonts japanese |
| 20:54.09 | EmleyMoor | wine is not a kind of file |
| 20:54.24 | Azar | why can't I open an Xconsole? |
| 20:54.35 | groogs | Strider: what does your cron line look like, and how are you adding it? |
| 20:54.39 | EmleyMoor | What format was this file in'?@ |
| 20:54.49 | thecoolestcow | anyone here successful in installing cedega? |
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| 20:54.59 | eod | dpkg |
| 20:55.06 | eod | EmleyMoor, |
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| 20:55.21 | golya | Hi! I have a kernel and I need to create a boot cd, in case LILO fails. How can I do it? |
| 20:55.23 | EmleyMoor | eod: You don't decompress those, you install them |
| 20:55.25 | Strider | groogs: I emptied crontab with "crontab -r". I then created a crontab.txt file. Contents 0,15,30,45 * * * * /usr/bin/myscript - ran "crontab crontab.txt" and the script runs twice on the quarter hour. |
| 20:55.36 | eod | how must i install it EmleyMoor |
| 20:55.39 | beardy | thecoolestcow: /msg dpkg cedega |
| 20:55.43 | EmleyMoor | dpkg -i filename |
| 20:56.09 | eod | and than? |
| 20:56.26 | Strider | groogs: I get 2 e-mail each quarter. The script updates dynamic DNS and the second run reports duplicate update. |
| 20:56.30 | EmleyMoor | eod: That's all. Once done, you can use the application |
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| 20:56.37 | eod | cool |
| 20:56.38 | eod | thanks |
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| 20:56.56 | beardy | Strider: And what's the problem? |
| 20:57.01 | eod | EmleyMoor, sorry its .TGZ |
| 20:57.02 | StereoSkit | groogs: tnx |
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| 20:57.04 | groogs | Strider: may be unrelated, but run: ps ax | grep -i cron .. how many processes are listed? |
| 20:57.05 | Strider | groogs: It only updates when the IP changes of course. |
| 20:57.17 | EmleyMoor | eod: Does it come with any README or INSTALL? |
| 20:57.22 | eod | NO |
| 20:57.22 | eod | :s |
| 20:57.28 | Azar | No candidate version found for oppenoffice ? |
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| 20:57.39 | resiak | !info openoffice.org sarge |
| 20:57.48 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.3-9 (sarge), Packaged size: 6712 kB, Installed size: 28944 kB |
| 20:57.53 | EmleyMoor | eod: Is this a file meant for some other distribution? |
| 20:58.18 | eod | no |
| 20:58.25 | beardy | eod: What is it? |
| 20:58.27 | resiak | Azar: ^^ |
| 20:58.34 | Azar | so why aptitude install openoffice gives me that line? |
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| 20:58.47 | EmleyMoor | eod: I have a source for .debs of wine, if you want it |
| 20:58.48 | azeem | Azar: it's openoffice.org, not 'oppenoffice' |
| 20:58.54 | Serge_K | Azar: you can download release 2 from their site |
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| 20:58.57 | Strider | groogs: /usr/sbin/cron and cron -l |
| 20:59.00 | Azar | oh oh sorry, thanks |
| 20:59.22 | beardy | Azar: Don't make up package names, and I told you that it was openoffice.org, and resiak told you again now. |
| 20:59.27 | Strider | beardy: cron runs the script twice a quarter. |
| 20:59.45 | eod | EmleyMoor, but whats the commando to descomprees .tgz files? |
| 20:59.48 | Azar | sorry, I thought I misunderstood you at first, beardy |
| 20:59.54 | EmleyMoor | eod: tar xvzf |
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| 21:00.20 | EmleyMoor | It doesn't actually sound, in this case, like the file you actually want |
| 21:00.35 | Zap-W | how to get squirrelmail work with php4-cgi insted of libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 21:00.54 | EmleyMoor | Anyway, time to go out |
| 21:01.21 | beardy | eod: What does this tgz file contain? |
| 21:01.31 | eod | a program |
| 21:01.39 | golya | how can I create a rescue cd image, which boots my own kernel? |
| 21:01.44 | beardy | eod: Yes, but which one? |
| 21:01.52 | bucky | it's secret |
| 21:01.58 | beardy | Must be.. |
| 21:02.26 | Serge_K | golya: apt-get install bootcd |
| 21:02.32 | EmleyMoor | It sounds like it's a binary of wine to me |
| 21:02.33 | penguin__ | Anyone know the command to restart apache? |
| 21:02.41 | EmleyMoor | I have a perfectly good source for it |
| 21:02.50 | beardy | penguin__: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 21:03.13 | streuner | penguin__: /etc/init.d/apache restart? |
| 21:03.23 | Serge_K | golya: apt-cache search bootcd |
| 21:03.24 | Serge_K | bootcd - run your system from cd without need for disks |
| 21:03.33 | streuner | penguin__: apachectl restart too ;-) |
| 21:03.50 | golya | Ehh, almost, but I want to restore my MBR from that booting... |
| 21:04.08 | golya | but if that accepts root parameter... |
| 21:04.12 | beardy | golya: Say so then. |
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| 21:04.21 | Serge_K | golya: why not? its possible with it |
| 21:04.21 | eod | beardy, it doesnt import |
| 21:04.44 | beardy | eod: Answer my damn question please. |
| 21:04.49 | eod | 4 what |
| 21:04.52 | penguin__ | Thank you kindly |
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| 21:05.12 | Strider | groogs: done? |
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| 21:05.32 | beardy | eod: Which program does your .tgz file contain? Or, what are youtrying to compile? |
| 21:06.02 | eod | its a program |
| 21:06.09 | eod | its doesnt import which one is |
| 21:06.17 | beardy | *plonk* |
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| 21:06.44 | soulslayer0 | guys, i have some problems here. with wifi conection, it detects the network ndiswarpper is up and ruunning but dosent work |
| 21:07.03 | beardy | soulslayer0: Be more specific. |
| 21:07.16 | groogs | Strider: i have no idea why. i have a system where whenever I have > /dev/null in cron, it creates a bunch of leftover /USR/BIN/CRON processes (uppercase, even though that doesn't exist) and it will start running tasks multiple times (and more, as all those keep spawning more) .. after a few days, the system is unusable |
| 21:08.08 | marstewel | groogs: what does your file in /etc/cron.d look like ? |
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| 21:08.23 | beardy | groogs: redirect to another file instead? |
| 21:08.23 | pjota | hi there folks! |
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| 21:08.33 | marstewel | beardy: that should not be the prob |
| 21:08.44 | beardy | marstewel: say what it is then |
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| 21:09.05 | marstewel | beardy: probably wrong usage (syntax) |
| 21:09.10 | pjota | how to reconfigure the X? A config error prompts on bootup after upgrade Xfree86 |
| 21:09.17 | groogs | beardy: yeah thats my current "fix" .. |
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| 21:09.28 | beardy | groogs: And it really fixes it? |
| 21:09.34 | groogs | beardy: yes |
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| 21:09.42 | marstewel | groogs: what command are you running ? |
| 21:09.46 | groogs | beardy: it took me a very long time to narrow that down. |
| 21:09.47 | marstewel | beardy: 1:0 for you ;) |
| 21:10.00 | Nerve | anyone know if you try and boot windows xp from an logical parttion, what their configuration would be? |
| 21:10.07 | beardy | groogs: Still, like marstewel says, it sounds strange that that is really the problem.. |
| 21:10.12 | groogs | marstewel: theres a couple in there, i was mostly experimenting with the root users cron |
| 21:10.13 | fbi | !tell pjota about drxx |
| 21:10.25 | groogs | there were many commands. one min |
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| 21:10.39 | groogs | 17 17 * * * /usr/local/sbin/syncldappasswords > /tmp/cronlog works fine |
| 21:10.42 | nksen | hi there. is there a reason why a default route cannot be set? or to go around this problem, is there a way to set a hard route like /etc/mygate in bsd? |
| 21:10.53 | groogs | 17 17 * * * /usr/local/sbin/syncldappasswords > /dev/null leaves leftover /USR/BIN/CRON |
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| 21:11.03 | sgeigerbot | What sets the environment variable MOZ_PRINTER (so that firefox can print? |
| 21:11.04 | beardy | groogs: Experiment and root is two words that does not fit well together, especially not with cron. Experiment with a user until you're sure what you want to do, and what actually will happen. |
| 21:11.06 | marstewel | nksen: you can use route |
| 21:11.21 | marstewel | nksen: route add default gw <ip> |
| 21:11.22 | nksen | marstewel: *shrug* well. 'route add default gw IP' does not seem to work unfortunately |
| 21:11.25 | groogs | 0 2 * * * rsync -a --delete rsync://backup@copper/backup/ /backup/copper --password-file=/etc/rsync/copper.secret > /tmp/cronlog 2>&1 |
| 21:11.28 | beardy | sgeigerbot: Sounds like firefox or mozilla? |
| 21:11.33 | marstewel | nksen: what does your routing table look like ? |
| 21:11.36 | Strider | groogs: I'm getting space cautious with bash... could it be the > / instead of >/ I see in the scripts. (I'm still debugging so I haven't gotten as far as you.) |
| 21:11.37 | groogs | fine .. substitute /dev/null for /tmp/cronlong .. and it doesnt |
| 21:11.44 | marstewel | nksen: is there already a default route (0.0.0.0) in it ? |
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| 21:12.16 | nksen | marstewel: it seems to be empty :/ i do not have physical access. I tried to log the ruoting table with "route > route.log" in a cronjob, but there just the first line printed |
| 21:12.23 | groogs | beardy: well, i do want to run that script. and all my root scripts need to run as root |
| 21:12.23 | nksen | marstewel: hmmm... prolly |
| 21:12.24 | beardy | sgeigerbot: Set it to something else, and start firefox and see? |
| 21:12.43 | sgeigerbot | beardy: Okay. I guess I was assuming that other applications might use that same variable because several Web browsers on this computer aren't able to print. |
| 21:12.43 | nksen | marstewel: so flushing first may lead me to success!? |
| 21:12.59 | liable | sgeigerbot: you have cupsys-bsd? then whatever the standard print command firefox spews, should work. |
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| 21:13.03 | marstewel | nksen: it sounds like an issue with it, or a connectivity problem |
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| 21:13.09 | sgeigerbot | liable: ok |
| 21:13.12 | marstewel | can you reach the default gw? |
| 21:13.15 | marstewel | ping? |
| 21:13.24 | mymayer | how to search in a man-file ? |
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| 21:13.33 | liable | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:13.34 | beardy | mymayer: / (forward slash) |
| 21:13.35 | marstewel | mymayer: / |
| 21:13.45 | mymayer | danke |
| 21:13.54 | mymayer | so like in aptitude. Is this the common ? |
| 21:14.02 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: yes |
| 21:14.04 | beardy | mymayer: Yes |
| 21:14.08 | mymayer | ok fine, thank you |
| 21:14.08 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: it's the same in firefox, too |
| 21:14.12 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: ...and in vi. |
| 21:14.14 | mymayer | nope |
| 21:14.21 | nksen | marstewel: connectivity problem is impossible |
| 21:14.23 | mymayer | firefox - vtrl+f |
| 21:14.27 | marstewel | nksen: why? |
| 21:14.27 | beardy | mymayer: And in less, and more, and info, and so on. |
| 21:14.30 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: not in my version. |
| 21:14.32 | mymayer | or / |
| 21:14.33 | mymayer | ,:) |
| 21:14.38 | mymayer | both is valid |
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| 21:15.15 | linux-noob | I have a 3Com 3c905c NIC and I am unsure what drivers to use on the installation disk, anyone know? |
| 21:15.20 | dontpanic | when you patch a kernel source then run make-kpkg clean does that screw up the patch? |
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| 21:15.34 | ahoora | hi |
| 21:15.39 | nksen | marstewel: well. because I can setup the box with a ready-made operating system and with it, it's working great |
| 21:15.41 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: The driver name is something like 3c905c |
| 21:15.41 | liable | dontpanic: no |
| 21:15.53 | dontpanic | ok thanks |
| 21:15.53 | marstewel | nksen: what NIC ? |
| 21:15.56 | Serge_K | dontpanic: nope |
| 21:16.05 | beardy | linux-noob: or perhaps 3c905x |
| 21:16.07 | mymayer | sgeigerbot : what is wrong here : find v3_latest/ -type d +exec "echo chmod 770 {}\;" |
| 21:16.08 | ahoora | does any one know where can i find ** wavrec ** for debian? |
| 21:16.16 | nksen | marstewel: via-rhine |
| 21:16.24 | marstewel | doh |
| 21:16.26 | Azar | Open Office for Debian is 1.1. The OO 2.0 is not working with Sarge? |
| 21:16.28 | linux-noob | sgeigerbot: That's what I thought but I don't see it |
| 21:16.32 | dontpanic | dam must be the wrong patch |
| 21:16.33 | nksen | marstewel: running kernel-image 2.4.27-2-386. huh? |
| 21:16.39 | nksen | marstewel: doh? |
| 21:16.47 | marstewel | dont like those ones |
| 21:16.55 | nksen | me neither, but what can I do |
| 21:17.03 | nksen | i jsut rented this box, it's not mine :) |
| 21:17.08 | marstewel | hehe |
| 21:17.12 | mymayer | beardy : what is wrong here : find v3_latest/ -type d +exec "echo chmod 770 {}\;" |
| 21:17.22 | beardy | Azar: It was released after sarge was released. |
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| 21:17.38 | Azar | the via-rhine has a bug in 2.6 linux. there is a workaround for it |
| 21:17.42 | marstewel | nksen: can you ping other boxes ? |
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| 21:17.47 | Azar | beardy, ah ok |
| 21:17.54 | marstewel | local ones... |
| 21:18.03 | marstewel | in the same subnet |
| 21:18.14 | linux-noob | all I see is: 3c501, 3c503, 3c505, 3c507, 3c509, 3c515, 3c59x |
| 21:18.21 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: find /your_dir/ -type d -exec chmod 770 {} \; |
| 21:18.23 | marstewel | 3c59x probably @ noob |
| 21:18.25 | Azar | nksen, you should use 2.4 first then upgrade to 2.6, if you go Sarge with the 2.6 kernel option, your via-rhine will not work |
| 21:18.34 | mymayer | the space, yes |
| 21:18.35 | mymayer | sorry |
| 21:18.49 | linux-noob | Thanks :) |
| 21:18.56 | nksen | Azar: as I said, I'm using kernel version 2.4.27 and I'm not going to upgrade |
| 21:19.02 | nksen | marstewel: weirdly I can't |
| 21:19.10 | beardy | Azar: 1.1 will probably work as good for you. |
| 21:19.12 | sgeigerbot | enveezee: firecracker firecracker shish boom bah, tomato, tomato, rah rah rah |
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| 21:19.25 | nksen | marstewel: the problem is, I know, that the box comes up and I know taht eth0 is deteced, I can see this information if I boot with kinda serial console and look at the logfiles |
| 21:19.33 | Azar | nksen, my friend who just installed Debian had same problem: the only way he could fix this was to install WOODY then upgrade to Sarge |
| 21:19.42 | Azar | woody uses 2.4.18 kernel |
| 21:19.49 | marstewel | nksen: can other boxes ping the box ? |
| 21:19.52 | nksen | Azar: you mean the problem with the default route? |
| 21:20.03 | nksen | marstewel: don't own another box in this subnet, I don't know |
| 21:20.11 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: Maybe you didn't compile that kernel module. |
| 21:20.19 | enveezee | sgeigerbot: you say tomato, I say tomato... wait that doesnt work well on irc |
| 21:20.20 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: or maybe it is compiled into the kernel itself. |
| 21:20.21 | Azar | nksen: I mean his ethernet was "recognized" by Sarge and the kernel, it only simply NOT work |
| 21:20.26 | beardy | sgeigerbot: He is installing. |
| 21:20.35 | sgeigerbot | enveezee: You say Debian, I say Knoppix. |
| 21:20.36 | TiMiDo | Azar do modprobe tulip |
| 21:20.49 | beardy | sgeigerbot: (if I understand it correctly) |
| 21:20.50 | Azar | TiMiDo, not me that was my friend 3 months ago |
| 21:20.59 | nksen | Azar: as I see. but well... why does the distribution depend on this issue? shouldn't be the kernel the only thing that matters? |
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| 21:21.02 | TiMiDo | oh |
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| 21:21.12 | Azar | I told him to install Woody and it fixed the problem then he upgraded to Sarge |
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| 21:21.25 | grandma | anyone know how to use the auto.smb file that comes with autofs? |
| 21:21.30 | sgeigerbot | beardy: oh, you are right. I had to cache that information to disk because I needed my RAM to think about something else. Sorry for the sluggishness. |
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| 21:21.36 | Azar | there is a bug in via-rhine driver |
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| 21:22.02 | nksen | Azar: is it documented somewhere? |
| 21:22.03 | Si1L3ncE | Hey ppl! I've also got a question *g*... I want to switch over to linux. I use debian on my server (second small pc *g) sucessful, but i'm not able do install my ethernet card on this pc under debian shell (in general I tried the network install but without a working card it won't work)... i got a card called: VIA Networking Velocity Family Giga-bit Ethernet Adapter (it's onboard). if i use a knoppix live disc the network works. May anybo |
| 21:22.05 | linux-noob | sgeigerbot: I think the 3c59x is the driver I used on Gentoo but I'm not 100% on that |
| 21:22.24 | marstewel | linux-noob: what NIC do you have ? |
| 21:22.25 | Azar | nksen yes it was documented, I forgot where but I swear I saw that bug notification |
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| 21:22.52 | marstewel | 3c9xx |
| 21:23.02 | marstewel | ? |
| 21:23.03 | nksen | Azar: hm. and the bug did occur in 2.4.27 but not in 2.4.18? |
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| 21:23.18 | nksen | Si1L3ncE: use 'lsmod' to see which modules knoppix loads and load the same ones on your debian box |
| 21:23.50 | linux-noob | 3Com 3c905c |
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| 21:24.03 | marstewel | linux-noob: 3c59x |
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| 21:24.26 | Si1L3ncE | what if this modules aren't on the netinst img of debian? |
| 21:24.36 | beardy | linux-noob: I have a 3c905c and a 3c905 in a box, they both use 3c59x |
| 21:24.38 | Si1L3ncE | (what i expect) |
| 21:24.47 | Andale | Hello, I am trying to configure my Sound card. I have a old sound card (a SoundBlaster 16) What is the command to use? |
| 21:24.49 | marstewel | 3c9xx is 3c59x |
| 21:24.58 | grandma | anyone know how to use the auto.smb file that comes with autofs? (debian testing) |
| 21:25.22 | nksen | Si1L3ncE: bad luck |
| 21:25.24 | beardy | Andale: Do you run a 2.6 kernel? |
| 21:25.25 | Azar | nksen: http://www.mailarchives.org/list/debian-kernel/msg/2005/03655 |
| 21:25.27 | Silent_al | Hi , whats the latest version of Gnome in Sarge, & whats the latest version of Gnome in Etch ? |
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| 21:25.38 | samuel | anyone know where gnome keeps the folder where user wallpapers are stored? |
| 21:25.40 | linux-noob | lol Ok, thanks, I don't suppose you could tell me why I got an error: "debootstrap exited with an error (return value 1)" |
| 21:25.43 | pjota | what's the default device controler for a touchpad laptop mouse? |
| 21:25.47 | Andale | beardy yes :) |
| 21:25.51 | beardy | Andale: alsa 2.6 |
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| 21:26.07 | samuel | Silent_al, 2.8 |
| 21:26.07 | beardy | Andale: /msg dpkg alsa 2.6 |
| 21:26.28 | Silent_al | samuel 2.8 in Sarge? |
| 21:26.34 | samuel | Silent_al, yes |
| 21:26.40 | nksen | Azar: thx but hmm... they just talk about kernel 2.6.x... |
| 21:26.48 | fbi | pjota: /dev/psaux should work for a touchpad |
| 21:26.52 | Silent_al | samuel, and in Etch? |
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| 21:27.07 | pjota | thanks, fbi, i'll try it |
| 21:27.09 | samuel | Silent_al, etch dunno, sid has 2.10 |
| 21:27.18 | Andale | beardy msn isn't a command :-( |
| 21:27.20 | samuel | i think etch is 2.10 |
| 21:27.28 | Silent_al | thanx |
| 21:27.31 | beardy | Andale: ? |
| 21:27.36 | zuralin | 3.1 you mean? |
| 21:27.57 | Andale | beardy msg isn't a command :-( :P |
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| 21:28.04 | linux-noob | What's the space requirement for Debian? |
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| 21:28.21 | beardy | Andale: type it in your irc-client, this window |
| 21:28.25 | Azar | nksen, just for the curiosity sake, try installing woody and see if it works, if not it is then your ethernet driver bad |
| 21:28.26 | Andale | ah |
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| 21:28.46 | nksen | Azar: hm. I wonder if I still can install woody with debootstrap |
| 21:28.55 | beardy | linux-noob: Depends on what you install. |
| 21:28.59 | nksen | Azar: maybe I should just try another older kernel |
| 21:29.07 | Azar | nksen, you cannot install it from the site? |
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| 21:29.24 | Azar | Sarge does not go backwards with kernels... |
| 21:29.25 | linux-noob | I think my partition is too small is why I ask |
| 21:29.27 | Azar | ..I guess? |
| 21:29.34 | samuel | linux-noob, youll be happy with about 3bg for a full gnome desktop |
| 21:29.42 | nksen | Azar: oh you mean just change sources.list to oldstable and do a downgrade? |
| 21:29.45 | Azar | nksen how did you installed Sarge? |
| 21:29.59 | Strider | groogs: I did the ps | grep on the quarter hour (when the script should me running) and I see cron -l and CRON -l. any comments? |
| 21:30.11 | samuel | linux-noob, but if you want to save space i suggest something like DSL |
| 21:30.32 | nksen | Azar: debootstrap --arch i386 woody /mnt/debian http://somedebianserver. but actually it installs sarge, cause it searches for /debian/stable on the server, not /debian/woody |
| 21:30.44 | linux-noob | samuel: No, it's cool |
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| 21:31.04 | Azar | nksen there is a Debian download page from where you can download/install Woody as well |
| 21:31.16 | pjota | exists any specific touchpad drivers? i lost the touchpad functionalities on Kernel 2.6.8. It worked perfect on 2.4.27 ver. |
| 21:31.26 | ecobit | i had a system freeze earlier and now when doing apt-get upgrade i get "Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg received a segmentation fault." |
| 21:31.38 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: The way you find out what *your* space needs are is to experiment. 3gigs doesn't seem like a lot to me for a desktop environment. Some people can get away with it, but perhaps you will need more. The only way to stop being a linux-noob is to actually use Linux. You will make mistakes, as we all have. |
| 21:31.38 | nksen | Azar: and also a appropriate version of debootstrap? |
| 21:32.05 | Silent_al | linux-noob, base installation requires about 200MB |
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| 21:32.36 | ecobit | also dselect install gives same error |
| 21:32.37 | linux-noob | My hdd is partitioned the way gentoo suggested for their install (the machines previous os) do I need to change it to something else? |
| 21:32.47 | valdyn | linux-noob: no |
| 21:32.50 | ecobit | "/usr/lib/dpkg/methods/apt/install: line 107: 4053 Segmentation fault" |
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| 21:33.30 | dondelelcaro | ecobit: uh... something is seriously wrong if that is segfaulting. |
| 21:33.42 | dondelelcaro | ecobit: is anything else segfaulting on your system? |
| 21:33.47 | marstewel | ecobit: looks like hardware malfunction |
| 21:34.50 | pjota | anyway to configure a touchpad or rollback to last Kernel driver version? |
| 21:34.55 | Azar | nksen yes I am looking for it |
| 21:35.26 | nksen | Azar: ah nice, thx |
| 21:35.44 | linux-noob | So why doesn't it install, I keep getting "debootstrap exited with an error (return value 1)"??? |
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| 21:35.46 | Azar | nksen: http://www.aboutdebian.com/install3.htm |
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| 21:36.38 | valdyn | linux-noob: why dont you tell us what you actually did? |
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| 21:36.58 | dondelelcaro | or better, what the entire output was. |
| 21:37.12 | linux-noob | lol Honestly, I hit "Next" which was supposed to install the base system |
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| 21:37.31 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: which installer are you using? |
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| 21:37.42 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: I recommend the Debian Installer. |
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| 21:38.12 | linux-noob | I just put in Disk 1 which I burned from the ISO I downloaded |
| 21:38.27 | ralfdf | hi, wher do I change the prmissions so that users can use a scanner? |
| 21:38.28 | valdyn | linux-noob: which disk 1? |
| 21:38.35 | raven3x7 | linux-noob, you should also check the md5sum of the cd you are using to install |
| 21:38.37 | ralfdf | in Sarge. |
| 21:38.46 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: The Debian Installer has only one disk. I recommend using it instead. |
| 21:39.25 | raven3x7 | sgeigerbot, can you give a url for that? |
| 21:39.34 | Azar | nksen, woody is not using the official Debian installer |
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| 21:39.46 | ralfdf | root can use the scanner I have added the user to the scanner group but that dose not work. |
| 21:39.47 | linux-noob | Are you serious!!!??? I downloaded and burned 7 CD's!!! lol I downloaded them from a mirror provided be the website some months ago |
| 21:40.00 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerToday |
| 21:40.04 | nksen | Azar: omg. the box is up :/ |
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| 21:40.11 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: actually, try this: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 21:40.19 | nksen | Azar: but thx anyway (: |
| 21:40.32 | sgeigerbot | ~+d-i |
| 21:40.33 | apt | methinks d-i is Debian-Installer The Debian-Installer is the replacement for the aging "boot-floppies" installation system used in all previous versions of debian. The Debian Installer will be the installer for future versions of Debian, beginning with sarge. It has been designed to be more modular, easier to use, and more extensible than the old installation ... |
| 21:41.13 | sgeigerbot | apt: d-i is also http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer & http://wiki.debian.net/index.cgi?DebianInstallerToday |
| 21:41.15 | apt | that's too long, sgeigerbot |
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| 21:41.24 | Azar | nksen nice to hear that your box is fixed |
| 21:41.25 | sgeigerbot | apt: d-i is also http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer |
| 21:41.26 | apt | sgeigerbot: okay |
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| 21:41.37 | sgeigerbot | !+fix Azar |
| 21:41.41 | morky | hi |
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| 21:41.47 | Azar | :) |
| 21:42.12 | morky | can u help me in configing courier-pop (mail szerver pop) |
| 21:42.14 | abompard | Hi *. I have a question about debian packaging, is it the right place ? |
| 21:42.26 | dondelelcaro | abompard: you can ask here, yes. |
| 21:42.34 | raven3x7 | sgeigerbot, isn the debian installer included in sarge? |
| 21:42.44 | sgeigerbot | raven3x7: Probably. |
| 21:43.06 | stew | raven3x7: yes |
| 21:43.07 | abompard | dondelelcaro: thanks. In a postinst script, how do you know if you are upgrading or installing ? |
| 21:43.23 | morky | can u help me in configing courier-pop (mail szerver pop) |
| 21:43.36 | morky | ? |
| 21:43.41 | dondelelcaro | abompard: you'll get called with the version if you're upgrading; see /usr/share/doc/debian-policy/policy.txt.gz for the list of ways that it can be called. |
| 21:43.46 | nksen | well azar. the now set' defaultroute seems to be the same as the box's ip. VERY very strange |
| 21:44.02 | dondelelcaro | (there's also a template somewhere around that has all of the options) |
| 21:44.07 | sgeigerbot | morky: qpopper is really easy. No configuration is necessary. |
| 21:44.14 | raven3x7 | linux-noob, check the md5 of your installation media |
| 21:44.24 | morky | qpopper? |
| 21:44.24 | abompard | dondelelcaro: ok, I just spent 10 min looking at the debian policy manual, but understood little |
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| 21:44.31 | Azar | nksen there can be only 2 alternative reasons: your ethernet driver is not working ok, or your installation was not correctly instructed |
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| 21:44.38 | sgeigerbot | morky: apt-get install qpopper |
| 21:44.43 | linux-noob | raven3x7: How do I do that? |
| 21:44.52 | dondelelcaro | abompard: just search for postinst; you'll find it. |
| 21:44.56 | morky | its a pop3 mail server too? |
| 21:45.01 | nksen | Azar: hm. |
| 21:45.01 | raven3x7 | you still have the isos? |
| 21:45.09 | sgeigerbot | morky: apt-cache show qpopper |
| 21:45.14 | linux-noob | Probably |
| 21:45.16 | Azar | nksen in fact there is a 3rd one: the kernel failes to help your card make the connection |
| 21:45.20 | dondelelcaro | <postinst> `configure' <most-recently-configured-version> <-- here, in this case. |
| 21:45.21 | stew | morky: what are you having problems with specifically? |
| 21:45.21 | abompard | dondelelcaro: thanks, I'll do some experiment |
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| 21:45.51 | abompard | dondelelcaro: yes, but then you have to test if most-recently-configured-version == current-version ? |
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| 21:46.13 | nksen | Azar: well. as I see there is a typo in my shell-script. in my route add command, the IP at the last octett is .21 instead of .1. I'll try with .1 as well |
| 21:46.14 | morky | i cant config courier-pop |
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| 21:46.22 | stew | morky: why not? |
| 21:46.30 | abompard | or will most-recently-configured-version be empty on install, and not empty on upgrade ? |
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| 21:46.36 | morky | but now i will try thet qpopper |
| 21:46.37 | raven3x7 | md5sum foo.iso to see your isos checksum and the checksum to verify should be on the servers. you need to know which version you have though |
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| 21:47.48 | linux-noob | There on this machine which is windows... do you know how I would do that on windows?' |
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| 21:48.48 | raven3x7 | hmm theres a dos program for windows. dont have a link for it though. try google |
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| 21:49.14 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: how would you do what? Btw, this channel doesn't support Windows. If you want Windows support you need to pay $$$. |
| 21:49.15 | morky | ok i have already got and installed qpopper, now what i have to do? |
| 21:49.41 | sgeigerbot | morky: probably nothing is necessary to configure it. Just try popping your mail. |
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| 21:50.10 | raven3x7 | sgeigerbot, he is looking for md5 on windows |
| 21:50.12 | morky | where can is set username usere domain and pass? |
| 21:50.12 | sgeigerbot | morky: sudo lsof -i :110 <-- that will tell you if qpopper is listening on port 110/tcp |
| 21:50.33 | hkais | hi @all |
| 21:50.52 | linux-noob | That's why I'm installing linux |
| 21:50.53 | sgeigerbot | linux-noob: Look for something called md5summer.exe or go here: http://www.blisstonia.com/software/WinMD5 ...or here: http://unxutils.sf.net |
| 21:51.07 | linux-noob | ok thanks |
| 21:51.20 | remyforbes777 | abrotman: man i rebooted this morning and things went haywire |
| 21:51.23 | remyforbes777 | lol |
| 21:51.26 | sgeigerbot | morky: are you asking how to configure your mail client? |
| 21:51.45 | sgeigerbot | morky: the user accounts are, by default, the linux system accounts.. |
| 21:52.04 | sgeigerbot | remyforbes777: Then don't do that. |
| 21:52.06 | ecobit | dondelelcaro: sorry i was away. i had an issue starting Xorg complaining about a missing .so and ran ldconfig. that was only other problem i noticed |
| 21:52.24 | nksen | Azar: hm. as I see it's just a strange network configuration |
| 21:52.40 | morky | hmmm... so i have a 2 domains cakoklinika.hu and jantra.hu |
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| 21:52.50 | morky | i want 2 mail adressess |
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| 21:53.00 | morky | info@cakoklinka.hu |
| 21:53.05 | morky | and ingo@... |
| 21:53.19 | morky | how can i set it? |
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| 21:53.31 | sgeigerbot | morky: that has nothing to do with the popper. |
| 21:53.44 | morky | then where? |
| 21:53.46 | sgeigerbot | morky: that's a configuration that you do in the MTA's config. |
| 21:54.00 | sgeigerbot | morky: mail transfer agent. Are you using postfix or Exim? or sendmail? |
| 21:54.00 | morky | mta? |
| 21:54.01 | nimak | how can i find out where a serial port is in /dev/? |
| 21:54.10 | morky | exim |
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| 21:54.16 | morky | exim4 |
| 21:54.32 | sgeigerbot | nimak: /dev/ttyS0 is likely what you need. do "sudo cat /dev/ttyS0" to see if it is there. |
| 21:54.32 | stew | sgeigerbot: if he wants them popped separately he's going to have to do something beyond the default qpopper install, i'd think |
| 21:54.41 | sgeigerbot | stew: true. |
| 21:54.44 | nimak | thanks |
| 21:55.02 | sgeigerbot | stew: I doubt he's set up his MTA properly, though. He was asking the wrong question initially. |
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| 21:55.33 | sgeigerbot | stew: When people don't ask the right question, I don't try to answer the right question. |
| 21:55.44 | hkais | anyone here who knows how to figure out which is the authorative dns server |
| 21:55.55 | sixtysix | anybody knowing, how to fix that ? : /usr/local/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8: no version information available |
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| 21:56.09 | morky | ok so what i have to do know? |
| 21:56.26 | sgeigerbot | hkais: I don't think it matters in terms of the DNS clients. Why do you want to know? |
| 21:56.26 | morky | set mta or qpopper? |
| 21:56.39 | sgeigerbot | morky: probably you will need to configure both. |
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| 21:57.02 | omirix | whats an opensource program so i can run a SOCKS5 proxy on my dedicated server? |
| 21:57.11 | morky | ok, but how? |
| 21:57.39 | raven3x7 | omirix, privoxy? |
| 21:57.41 | sgeigerbot | omirix: ssh -D <portnum> <remote host> is like setting up a port forward from localhost:<portnum> to the remote host, only instead of being a port-to-port forward, the local portnum is a socks 4 proxy |
| 21:57.55 | omirix | no |
| 21:58.01 | omirix | i want a proxy i can use in my browser |
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| 21:58.09 | omirix | i type in IP and i get transferred through the proxy |
| 21:58.18 | sixtysix | omirix ss5 |
| 21:58.19 | ecobit | i'm running dselect install and seeing a ton of ldconfig messages complaining about wrong magic number for .so files |
| 21:58.58 | raven3x7 | omirix im using privoxy to forward my browser to the tor network. |
| 21:59.10 | sgeigerbot | omirix: apt-cache search socks |
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| 21:59.22 | morky | :( i must fix it untill the morrning... |
| 21:59.45 | pjota | !tell drrx |
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| 22:00.01 | omirix | http://prometeo-proxy.sourceforge.net/ |
| 22:00.04 | omirix | what about that? |
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| 22:00.27 | sgeigerbot | omirix: that's open source, alright. |
| 22:00.32 | fbi | pjota: /msg dpkg help |
| 22:00.35 | morky | how can i set exim and qpopper?? |
| 22:01.07 | sgeigerbot | morky: Read the fine manuals. Look, in particular for "virtual domain" support. |
| 22:01.24 | ecobit | "ldconfig: /usr/lib/liblber-2.2.so.7.0.19 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start." |
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| 22:01.35 | Ronin | heh |
| 22:01.38 | ecobit | seeing that for a ton of files |
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| 22:01.52 | pjota | i used the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but it dont´t generate a new XF86Config-4 file |
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| 22:02.23 | stew | sgeigerbot: i don't think qpopper has virtual domain support |
| 22:02.25 | remyforbes777 | has anyone had a problem where linux does nothing until you hit the enter key |
| 22:02.31 | gin_ | v|p3r, que haces aca ? |
| 22:02.32 | morky | abaout 3 hours before asg gave me a link i read it it was abaout install exim4 and config porcmail,fechmail... but it wasnt realy nice |
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| 22:02.46 | Quibus | Hello all. Did anyone try to let the swallower meta applet swallow gnubiff? |
| 22:02.52 | Quibus | As the mailcheck applet is gone in GNOME 2.10, I'm looking for a replacement |
| 22:03.01 | v|p3r | gin_: ahora nada por que me voy pero suelo leer este canal |
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| 22:03.20 | Ronin | morky: they arent meant to be windows easy |
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| 22:03.27 | TiMiDo | v|p3r #debian-es |
| 22:03.29 | gin_ | v|p3r, ok. |
| 22:03.47 | v|p3r | TiMiDo: sorrry i will sepak english |
| 22:04.10 | TiMiDo | alright thank you |
| 22:04.29 | sgeigerbot | morky: If this were easy, then everyone would do it. It takes a little time to read the manuals and understand what's going on. |
| 22:04.54 | sgeigerbot | morky: Do your homework before asking questions. If it were an easy answer, as you seem to think, you would likely have your answer by now. This is a complicated thing, so you aren't going to get a magical answer that cures your ills. Do a little research so you can formulate educated questions (which will show that you have done your homework), and only then ask other people for help. |
| 22:05.04 | ecobit | ok it looks like slapd and associated packages are totally f__ed up |
| 22:05.17 | sgeigerbot | ecobit: That sounds like slapd to me. |
| 22:05.18 | stew | morky: do you know where you are going to store your user config? userdb? mysql? ldap? |
| 22:05.22 | pjota | anybody knows how to reconfigure the X? |
| 22:05.30 | Ronin | stew: your going to give them a migrane |
| 22:05.34 | stew | !drxx pjota |
| 22:05.34 | beardy | !drxx pjota |
| 22:05.35 | Quibus | pjota: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:05.37 | stew | Ronin: who? |
| 22:05.38 | dpkg | pjota: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:05.40 | sgeigerbot | stew: he has no idea. |
| 22:05.42 | Ronin | stew: morky |
| 22:05.47 | TiMiDo | !tell pjota about set up x |
| 22:05.49 | ecobit | "ldconfig: /usr/lib/libldap_r-2.2.so.7 is not an ELF file - it has the wrong magic bytes at the start." for 11 .so files associated with slapd when i run "ldconfig" |
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| 22:06.02 | pjota | no, i said upper this way dont't create a XF86Config-4 file |
| 22:06.14 | stew | Ronin: i'm going to give him a migraine by trying to help him or what? |
| 22:06.15 | Azar | what is defoma? I am installing obconf and Debian configuration menu asks me if I want it for font management? |
| 22:06.28 | beardy | !defoma |
| 22:06.28 | TiMiDo | Azar say yes if you do |
| 22:06.28 | dpkg | from memory, defoma is Debian Font Manager, and automatic configuration framework for fonts. |
| 22:06.41 | Azar | ah thanks guys |
| 22:06.56 | Ronin | stew: no by asking him all those questions :) i was in today when it started, i think morky didnt do enough reading/research at the start |
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| 22:07.49 | amahbod | Hello, does anyone know of a way to view the names of all files stored in CVS (without actually checking out all the files?)? |
| 22:07.52 | morky | i find the config |
| 22:07.53 | morky | http://koivi.com/exim4-config/ |
| 22:08.10 | ecobit | "dpkg (subprocess): unable to execute post-removal script: Exec format error" what the heck is wrong with these slapd packages? |
| 22:08.10 | pjota | Timido, i run dpkg-reconfigure, it "works" but didn't create a XF86Config-4 file, what can I create it? |
| 22:08.14 | remyforbes777 | im gettnig module udev not found at startup |
| 22:08.25 | ecobit | libiodbc2 to be exact |
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| 22:08.41 | Quibus | no GNOME experts here? (NO reactions on #gnome either...) |
| 22:09.09 | pjota | Quibus, nobody knows about Gnome :S |
| 22:09.34 | amahbod | Hello, does anyone know of a way to view the names of all files stored in CVS (without actually checking out all the files?)? |
| 22:09.51 | mike_sol | i'm a big fan of using my eyes to view the names of files |
| 22:10.05 | abrotman | amahbod: ask #csv |
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| 22:10.07 | abrotman | err #cvs |
| 22:10.10 | Quibus | gnite then |
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| 22:10.19 | abrotman | Quibus: did you try irc.gnome.org ? |
| 22:10.21 | amahbod | abrotman, ty |
| 22:10.38 | mike_sol | abrotman: you mean "ask, #, c, s, v" right\ |
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| 22:10.44 | amahbod | lol |
| 22:10.45 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:10.46 | Quibus | abauer: not yet, but I will tomorrow. Thanks an d CU :) |
| 22:10.56 | xwolf | what was that nvidia one liner thingie? |
| 22:10.57 | Quibus | s/abauer/abrotman |
| 22:10.57 | amahbod | abrotman, i actually asked before i came here but noone was responding :/ |
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| 22:11.14 | amahbod | Quibus, /g |
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| 22:11.29 | Quibus | amahbod: there was only one match that needed replacement |
| 22:11.51 | amahbod | Quibus, i have my doubts. he is omnipresent |
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| 22:12.04 | mike_sol | wouldn't it be nice if you actually could edit your previous statements using vi commands in irc |
| 22:12.11 | Quibus | amahbod: I do not intend to replace the guy everywhere :) |
| 22:12.15 | stew | xwolf: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 22:12.17 | amahbod | Quibus, :P |
| 22:12.24 | Quibus | anyway, see you later |
| 22:12.26 | mike_sol | s/vi/sed |
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| 22:12.42 | amahbod | ^ yes. |
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| 22:13.21 | stew | mike_sol: unterminated s expression |
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| 22:13.34 | mike_sol | holy shit, that nvidia one liner looks amazing, to think i could have been copying and pasting such madness |
| 22:13.41 | mike_sol | then again i always built it myself so what do i kow |
| 22:13.45 | ray_ | what is the package i need to easily edit the gnome menu? |
| 22:13.49 | ecobit | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:14.41 | pjota | anybody knows how to reconfigure the X and generate a new XF86Config-4 file? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 don't work |
| 22:14.52 | ray_ | it didnt? |
| 22:14.55 | stew | pjota: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 22:14.59 | ray_ | are you using xorg |
| 22:15.07 | pjota | no, xfree |
| 22:15.16 | pjota | it doesn't generate the file |
| 22:15.17 | amahbod | ... |
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| 22:15.36 | pjota | i don`t have any XF86Config-4 file |
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| 22:15.46 | stew | pjota: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 22:16.11 | stew | pjota: or just create an empty one and then follow the steps in /msg dpkg xmd5 |
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| 22:16.44 | ray_ | what is the package i need to easily edit the gnome menu? |
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| 22:17.22 | abrotman | amahbod: people sleep sometimes |
| 22:17.49 | Azar | beardy I will bother you with yet another question: I want firefox, what is the download name? mozilla-firefox? |
| 22:17.50 | Jooon_ | in this channel? :) |
| 22:18.02 | stew | Azar: yes. /msg dpkg search |
| 22:18.04 | Azar | Jooon_, no it is a ocean |
| 22:18.06 | ray_ | Azar, yes |
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| 22:18.17 | Azar | thanks stew, ray_ ? |
| 22:18.26 | pjota | stew, thanks! i think it was the problem |
| 22:18.35 | ray_ | how can i edit the gnome menu? |
| 22:18.44 | stew | !tell ray_ about repeat |
| 22:18.52 | bucky | Azar, apt-cache search mozilla |
| 22:18.56 | Azar | dumb me to type that at command line |
| 22:18.58 | ray_ | stew, i did not repeat bud |
| 22:18.58 | Azar | :) |
| 22:19.10 | Azar | hi bucky, thanks :) |
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| 22:19.23 | stew | ray_: "/lastlog ray_" disagrees |
| 22:19.27 | ruied | I can mount a DVD-RAM and write to it as root, I can mount a DRV-RAM as a normal user, but can't write to it... what could be wrong? |
| 22:19.49 | sgeigerbot | ruied: are you in the proper group? |
| 22:19.58 | ray_ | stew, look closer |
| 22:19.58 | ruied | it's something with the permissions or fstab... |
| 22:20.09 | abrotman | !#gnome |
| 22:20.09 | dpkg | The gnome IRC channel is #gnome at irc.gnome.org, or for debian gnome related use #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org |
| 22:20.29 | stew | k |
| 22:20.29 | sgeigerbot | ruied: err...you are right |
| 22:20.29 | ray_ | abrotman, thanks |
| 22:20.29 | amahbod | abrotman, sleep is for lazy people. |
| 22:20.35 | bucky | ray_, i think there is an app but it's not a debian package |
| 22:20.39 | ruied | sgeigerbot: I've added the user to the 'cdrom' group which is suposed to have write permissions... |
| 22:20.40 | sgeigerbot | amahbod: I was just about to say I'm tired. |
| 22:20.46 | sgeigerbot | ruied: ok. |
| 22:21.09 | sgeigerbot | ruied: well, mount it without the use of fstab and find out whether that makes any difference. |
| 22:21.10 | ruied | could it be an fstab problem? |
| 22:21.22 | ruied | ok, going to try |
| 22:21.24 | ray_ | bucky, there is a debian app becuse i used it before.... i just cant remember... it actually allowed me to right click on a gnome menu entry and remove it |
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| 22:22.06 | sniperjo | hi all |
| 22:22.16 | bucky | ray_, not in etch but maybe you have it apt-cache search gnome |grep menu |
| 22:22.38 | ray_ | ty will try] |
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| 22:22.52 | sniperjo | how do enable swat once I have installed it ? |
| 22:22.54 | ruied | sgeigerbot: it says that only root has permission to mount it... |
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| 22:23.27 | ruied | I've tried: mount /dev/sda0 /mnt/dvd |
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| 22:24.12 | bucky | sniperjo, i cant remember but it might be with inetd... look at your /usr/share/doc/swat or were ever the doc is for it |
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| 22:25.25 | delox99 | anyone knows what parameters to add to dns zone file so i can ping or access the website using only the domain name line example.com and not www.example.com |
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| 22:25.36 | sniperjo | bucky: was it uncommenting a line ? |
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| 22:25.59 | fbi | ruied: why aren't you mounting that in /media? and why don't you put 'user' option in fstab so you can mount it without being root |
| 22:26.38 | bucky | sniperjo, and restarting it |
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| 22:26.57 | delox99 | i need help with dns zone files |
| 22:27.00 | bucky | ,/usr/share/samba/swat/using_samba |
| 22:27.04 | abrotman | #dns ? |
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| 22:27.17 | bucky | ,/usr/share/samba/swat/help/index.html |
| 22:27.18 | karsten | delox99: A PTR or CNAME entry for the name in question. |
| 22:27.34 | fbi | bucky: you can't make a space before a / ? |
| 22:27.45 | abrotman | heh |
| 22:27.48 | abrotman | /usr |
| 22:27.52 | fbi | what client is that |
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| 22:27.53 | sniperjo | bucky: says it doesn't exist |
| 22:27.53 | abrotman | or a double // ? |
| 22:27.58 | bucky | no i can't |
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| 22:28.04 | knoppix_ | hey |
| 22:28.06 | bucky | i have no thumbs |
| 22:28.06 | fbi | xchat or something? |
| 22:28.10 | fbi | haha |
| 22:28.11 | stew | delox99: you want domain.com and www.domain.com to go to different ips? or you want domain.cm to not resolve at all or what? |
| 22:28.18 | karsten | abrotman: Doubling '//' in a path doesn't matter. |
| 22:28.21 | fbi | bucky: use your forehead |
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| 22:28.28 | knoppix_ | so whats this chat room about |
| 22:28.32 | bucky | ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, |
| 22:28.38 | karsten | !knoppix |
| 22:28.38 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 22:28.40 | fbi | knoppix_: what do you think? it's for Debian support |
| 22:28.46 | bucky | knoppix_, its not about knoppix |
| 22:28.47 | delox99 | i want domain.com to resolv to same ip as www.domain.com |
| 22:28.55 | jarango | How can I add a kernel module to an existing initrd file ? |
| 22:28.56 | karsten | knoppix_: /topic |
| 22:29.03 | sniperjo | how do enable swat once I have installed it ? |
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| 22:29.07 | jilocasin | 'ello all |
| 22:29.11 | karsten | jarango: Rebuild the initrd. Run 'depmod' for your kernel first. |
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| 22:29.26 | bucky | sniperjo, you might want to bak up smb.cnf because swat will overwite it |
| 22:29.31 | abrotman | delox99: #dns |
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| 22:29.43 | abrotman | yay! |
| 22:29.45 | stew | delox99: make sure domain.com has an A record, then add an entry "www.domain.com. CNAME domain.com." note that all those periods are required |
| 22:29.57 | sniperjo | bucky: its got nothing in it all iwant is swat |
| 22:30.13 | jarango | karsten: Isn't there a way to add it without rebuiding ? I need to add a LAN driver to the initrd of the debian installer |
| 22:30.28 | bucky | sniperjo, did you look at /usr/share/samba/swat/help/index.html |
| 22:30.33 | fbi | that's the best ban evarrr! |
| 22:30.41 | sniperjo | bucky: doesn't exist on my mechine |
| 22:30.46 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: i've seen *!*@225.Red-213-98-1.staticIP.rima-tde.net getting daily tempbans by debhelper for joinflooding (spambot), maybe someone should set a permban? |
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| 22:30.59 | bucky | sniperjo, if you don't have samba installed then you don't have swat |
| 22:31.09 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: I'm not sure if those IPs are really static. |
| 22:31.23 | sniperjo | bucky: samba is installed |
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| 22:31.52 | bucky | sniperjo, apt-get install swat |
| 22:31.57 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: that same IP has been getting tempbans for weeks now |
| 22:32.12 | sniperjo | bucky: swait is already installed |
| 22:33.49 | ruied | I've tried: mount /dev/sda0 /mnt/dvd , it say's that only root can mount that, what can I do to change this ? |
| 22:33.50 | delox99 | ok i added domain.com. IN A 55.55.55.55 |
| 22:33.57 | delox99 | and i also added |
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| 22:34.19 | mymayer | how to disable JS onthefly in firefox ? |
| 22:34.25 | fbi | ruied: i told you. use the 'user' option in fstab, or '-o user' with the mount command |
| 22:34.29 | sussudio | ktnx |
| 22:34.38 | delox99 | www.domain.com. IN CNAME domain.com. |
| 22:34.56 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: Not sure, but I'd look in prefs.js |
| 22:35.02 | delox99 | is that correct |
| 22:35.06 | fbi | ruied: man mount; man fstab |
| 22:35.11 | ruied | fbi: sorry, didn't see... |
| 22:35.14 | delox99 | because it s not working |
| 22:35.15 | stew | delox99: that is correct. as always you must bump your serial number |
| 22:35.16 | sniperjo | bucky: swat is already installed |
| 22:35.23 | sgeigerbot | sussudio: hi |
| 22:35.29 | mymayer | sgeigerbot i mean just for one specific site iam gonna to open or smth |
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| 22:35.51 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: Then use dillo. |
| 22:35.59 | mymayer | ? |
| 22:36.03 | mymayer | is it a extensio n? |
| 22:36.07 | sgeigerbot | mymayer: apt-cache search dillo |
| 22:36.11 | delox99 | i ping domain.com and it says unknown host domain.com |
| 22:36.27 | sgeigerbot | delox99: "host domain.com" |
| 22:37.02 | sgeigerbot | delox99: And, "host domain.com <ipaddr-of-your-dns-server>" |
| 22:37.05 | stew | delox99: did you bump the serial number and either relaod the zone or restart the dns server? |
| 22:37.12 | sniperjo | how do enable swat once I have installed it ? |
| 22:37.21 | sgeigerbot | delox99: ...and watch the log files when you reload the config. |
| 22:37.33 | cusco | hi! is there a gui client to connect trough scp? |
| 22:37.47 | sgeigerbot | delox99: yes...what stew said is likely the problem. I have a script that I use to automatically increment the serial numb.er |
| 22:37.54 | delox99 | i just bumped the serial and did a /etc/init.d/bind9 reload |
| 22:38.00 | sgeigerbot | cusco: konqueror does |
| 22:38.02 | delox99 | still no go |
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| 22:38.20 | delox99 | ill check the logs |
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| 22:38.42 | airox | Is there a way in `screen` to scroll up ? |
| 22:38.45 | phaedral | curious about substantive reasons netinst/desktop install for sarge defaults to gnome |
| 22:38.46 | stew | delox99: try "nslookup domain.com dnsserver.ip.address" |
| 22:38.48 | sniperjo | how do enable swat once I have installed it ? |
| 22:38.50 | bucky | sniperjo, uncomment swat stream tcp nowait.400 root /usr/sbin/swat swat in /etc/inetd.conf and restart inetd |
| 22:38.53 | stew | delox99: which will query the dns server directly |
| 22:38.57 | sgeigerbot | cusco: actually, it's sftp...but it works the same. |
| 22:38.59 | phaedral | got used to kdm/kde rather than gdm/gnome |
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| 22:39.04 | bucky | sniperjo, if that doesn't work... install debia |
| 22:39.07 | stew | delox99: whatever dns server your machins is using can be doing a negative cache |
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| 22:39.29 | r3tex | what do i have to do to get my .asoundrc to be used? |
| 22:39.48 | sgeigerbot | r3tex: verify that you are using asound. |
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| 22:40.03 | fbi | airox: try Shift+PgUp/Dn |
| 22:40.12 | phaedral | warnings about apt-get installing kdm, then using sysv-init to switch 'em? |
| 22:40.22 | bucky | sniperjo, make sure you have swat 901/tcp in /etc/services |
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| 22:40.46 | bucky | sniperjo, point your browser to http://localhost:901 |
| 22:41.04 | p30n | could someone answer me how i apply a .diff file to an eggdrop i need to compile ? |
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| 22:41.16 | dondelelcaro | p30n: with patch; how you apply it depends on the diff. |
| 22:41.17 | delox99 | nslookup says cant find domain.com: No answer |
| 22:41.25 | delox99 | where are the log files for bind? |
| 22:41.34 | asuffield | bind uses syslog |
| 22:41.36 | stew | delox99: daemon.log |
| 22:41.52 | p30n | dondelelcaro: well its just a ssl .diff for my eggdrop, dunno what to do with it tho, no README or anythin =/ |
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| 22:42.21 | dondelelcaro | p30n: look at the diff; and then patch -pFOONUMBER -i foodiff; as appropriate. |
| 22:42.47 | roral | p30n: 'patch -p1 < patch.diff'. I know what patch you're referring to |
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| 22:44.00 | p30n | roral: like this then? patch -p1 < eggdrop1.6.17-ssl.diff |
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| 22:44.21 | HeavenWarrior | how to set write permission to ntfs |
| 22:44.42 | raven3x7 | dont |
| 22:44.55 | dondelelcaro | HeavenWarrior: it's only supported for a few minor actions. |
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| 22:45.00 | sniperjo | bucky: I don't get the survices bit |
| 22:45.01 | HeavenWarrior | raven3x7, i know it's dangerous |
| 22:45.21 | dondelelcaro | HeavenWarrior: then you need to remount the drive rw; and set the umask, fmask and dmask appropriately. |
| 22:45.30 | bucky | sniperjo, cat /etc/services |grep swat |
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| 22:45.50 | HeavenWarrior | but i have to, in other way is there a way to use ext3 via Windoze XP |
| 22:45.57 | sniperjo | bucky: is that the command ? |
| 22:46.20 | dondelelcaro | HeavenWarrior: why? just run Debian; if you need to share things, use fat32. |
| 22:46.22 | bucky | sniperjo, do you have swat uncommented in /etc/services or not? |
| 22:46.34 | sniperjo | bucky: nevermind all I did was uncommeneted the inetd and remooted |
| 22:46.37 | bucky | or is it even in there? |
| 22:46.39 | sloncho | hi. my nic uses 3c59x driver. It loads automatically. I need to set some options to be passed to the module on loading. I did no see the module in /etc/modprobe.. Where and how I should place this options, so they will be passed to the driver on load? |
| 22:46.43 | sniperjo | bucky: and it works now |
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| 22:47.22 | HeavenWarrior | dondelelcaro, it's about an Torrent file downloaded in Linux Partition, i wanna copy it to ntfs partition |
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| 22:47.49 | diana_ | How can I convert .wma(asf/audio) to ogg? |
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| 22:48.33 | lightbright | diana_: why would you want to? |
| 22:48.54 | raven3x7 | HeavenWarrior, its better to just waiste a cd instead of trashing a partition imo |
| 22:49.01 | diana_ | lightbright: Because the avi-xmms plugin won't compile at all....and I play all my music with xmms |
| 22:49.13 | HeavenWarrior | in fedora core, as far as i can remember there was something like kernel-module-ntfs |
| 22:49.16 | r3tex | sgeigerbot: how do i do that? |
| 22:49.22 | lightbright | diana_: im not sure about any conversion for those, sorry |
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| 22:49.54 | raven3x7 | HeavenWarrior, warrior there is a programm to copy files from ext3 to windows yes |
| 22:49.58 | ruied | I can mount the dvd trogh fstab, but I can't write to it, that is my problem. I gave chmod 660 to /dev/scd0 which has the group 'cdrom'. I've added the group 'cdrom' to the user 'bot-backup'. The user 'bot-backup' can mount it but can't write to it, and root can. This is the problem that I have... |
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| 22:50.12 | lightbright | first time ever since I installeds Debian, it crashed on me this morning, froze up. the whole screen froze. If this ever happens, what can you do besides pressing the reset button? |
| 22:50.22 | r3tex | sgeigerbot: check that i am using asound i mean |
| 22:50.25 | raven3x7 | HeavenWarrior, yes but that module is only read safe |
| 22:50.25 | mike_sol | lightbright, were you in X or at console |
| 22:50.33 | lightbright | mike_sol: running KDE |
| 22:50.46 | r3tex | sgeigerbot: i have the card in /proc/asound/ |
| 22:50.47 | mike_sol | lightbright, you could try SSHing into the system (or even just pinging it) to see if it's still alive |
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| 22:50.51 | HeavenWarrior | ok |
| 22:50.51 | milestone | hi all. stupid question. is it possible to do something like ls -la /var/log/samba/* but not /var/log/samba/log.* ??? using regular ls? |
| 22:51.02 | ruied | does anyone knows what could be my problem? |
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| 22:51.04 | mike_sol | lightbright, if it doesnt respond, reboot it. then figure out what the crash is all about |
| 22:51.16 | milestone | i want to modify my logrotate script to rotate the logs there without the ones starting with log. |
| 22:51.22 | lightbright | mike_sol: running kmail in kde and it froze. but after using Debian for 2 months, first time it ever happend! I had to press reset and boot again. any other solution? |
| 22:51.29 | milestone | because they have to restart the smbd service |
| 22:51.51 | sniperjo | Has anyone ecer set up a working samba server using unix passwords and not smbpasswd ? |
| 22:51.54 | lightbright | mike_sol: ok, I have no idea what caused it. Perhaps kmail croacked because I was pasting text in it |
| 22:52.16 | sniperjo | Has anyone ever set up a working samba server using unix passwords and not smbpasswd ?** |
| 22:52.17 | lightbright | mike_sol: has this happened to you ever? |
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| 22:52.40 | websdale | lightbright: If its just X thats frozen you could do <ctrl><alt><backspace> to restart X |
| 22:52.44 | Maliuta | sniperjo: many ppl including me have |
| 22:52.46 | delox99 | my bind logs says on some line "zone domain.com/IN: loading master file /etc/bind/domain.com.hosts: CNAME and other data |
| 22:52.51 | Maliuta | sniperjo: it's in the docs |
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| 22:53.18 | sniperjo | Maliuta: in the docs found where ? online docs? |
| 22:53.44 | Maliuta | sniperjo: or the debian packaged ones |
| 22:54.09 | phaedral | hi all; question: why are gdm and kdm both populated into runlevels 2,3 and 4? I would have expected only to see them in rl5; I'm looking via sysv-init |
| 22:54.36 | phogg | phaedral: runlevels 2, 3, 4, and 5 are all the same on Debian AFAIK |
| 22:54.47 | Maliuta | phogg: by default |
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| 22:54.58 | phaedral | oh |
| 22:55.03 | lightbright | websdale: ok thanks |
| 22:55.05 | Maliuta | phogg: and 2 is the default runlevel |
| 22:55.12 | phaedral | suddenly I think I'm over my head |
| 22:55.18 | phogg | phaedral: if you want to have a single "X" runlevel you should set it up yourself |
| 22:55.34 | phaedral | so whatever I learned elsewhere about runlevels I'll have to unlearn or implement myself... |
| 22:55.37 | phaedral | thanks |
| 22:55.38 | GregAsche | what repo is it that I need to get the dependencies to install mplayer? |
| 22:56.02 | phogg | Maliuta: is it? I seem to be booting into runlevel 3 these days and don't remember switching it |
| 22:56.18 | phogg | GregAsche: see apt-get.org |
| 22:56.44 | bucky | phaedral, type /sbin/runlevel |
| 22:56.45 | mike_sol | lightbright, when it crashed was it a blakc screen, or just freezing with no moving mouse pointer |
| 22:56.54 | azeem_ | phaedral: Debian does not set policy on runlevels, the admin does |
| 22:57.05 | mike_sol | lightbright, check /var/log/syslog and /var/log/messages and see if there's anything suspicious right before the crash |
| 22:57.12 | phaedral | azeem_: i get it; it was just news to this dilettante |
| 22:57.13 | azeem_ | (as an option) |
| 22:57.16 | phaedral | :) |
| 22:57.25 | bucky | we're unique |
| 22:57.35 | websdale | GregAsche: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main may be what you want |
| 22:57.40 | azeem_ | phaedral: well, wasn't sure you got the rationale for 'they are all equal' as well :) |
| 22:57.42 | phogg | bucky: "special" |
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| 22:57.51 | GregAsche | websdale: thanks |
| 22:57.52 | GregAsche | that's it |
| 22:58.05 | phaedral | sheehs; i'm in rl2 even as I speak |
| 22:58.16 | bucky | we all are |
| 22:58.34 | phaedral | so, any real reason to tinker with this? |
| 22:58.39 | Maliuta | phogg: I did a fresh install on my desktop here at work, it's still 2 |
| 22:58.44 | bucky | nope |
| 22:58.48 | phaedral | :) |
| 22:59.17 | phogg | phaedral: not really. You might want to for some special purpose, but if you want to you'll know it. |
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| 22:59.31 | phaedral | I've added kdm, so I should now pull gdm out of each rl that has it? |
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| 23:00.03 | r3tex | my .asoundrc is not working with dmix =( |
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| 23:00.20 | fbi | phaedral: apt-get remove --purge gdm |
| 23:00.20 | azeem | phaedral: update-rc.d helps you with that |
| 23:00.40 | bucky | phaedral, man update-rc.d |
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| 23:00.52 | phaedral | fbi: never used the purge flag before ;) |
| 23:01.00 | fbi | purge should remove any links in /etc/init.d |
| 23:01.12 | phaedral | will look at update-rc.d first too, just so i learn a little something |
| 23:01.13 | fbi | phaedral: man apt-get, it does a lot more than just install apps |
| 23:01.29 | `Rage | hey, anyone know if it's OK to rm dirs in /usr/share/locale for langs that you'll never use? (e.g. /usr/share/locale/fr) |
| 23:01.32 | phaedral | fbi: Yup, just haven't had call to use that one yet |
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| 23:01.45 | pjota | i lost the tap mode of my synaptics touchpad after i update to 2.6.8 kernel, how can i recover this function? |
| 23:02.07 | azeem | `Rage: better use localepurge for that |
| 23:02.15 | `Rage | ahh |
| 23:02.25 | `Rage | azeem, thanks 1000 ;] |
| 23:03.29 | `Rage | heh, seems to be taking up 500m o uselessness ;] |
| 23:03.55 | azeem | `Rage: you never know, maybe you'll learn Catalan next year? :) |
| 23:04.17 | sniperjo | Maliuta: once it is sicned do I still have to add ther person as a samba user ? |
| 23:04.25 | bucky | phaedral, update-alternatives --display x-session-manager |
| 23:04.53 | sniperjo | Maliuta: once it is sicning do I still have to add ther person as a samba user ? |
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| 23:05.10 | phaedral | bucky: was just deciding on update-rc.d -n gdm remove |
| 23:05.34 | phaedral | whups; kill that -n in my plan |
| 23:05.40 | fbi | phaedral: that won't remove the package though, just remove it from your startup scripts |
| 23:05.44 | bucky | phaedral, you can apt-get remove gdm if you just want to use kdm |
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| 23:06.20 | phaedral | I don't really care if gdm lives on the box or not, although it's unlikely I'd switch back |
| 23:06.27 | `Rage | azeem, lol ;] |
| 23:06.35 | phaedral | but I wanted to understand the difference between unplugging it and removing it altogether. |
| 23:06.44 | phaedral | then maybe I can help the next guy... |
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| 23:07.08 | Yodabunny | #ubuntu-offtopic |
| 23:07.31 | fbi | Yodabunny: did you just spam us? |
| 23:07.32 | bucky | phaedral, update-rc.d controls runlevels you can do the same with ncurses based rcconf |
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| 23:07.59 | bucky | phaedral, update-alternatives controls the default app |
| 23:08.03 | phaedral | or the kde sysv-init editor---which is up right now |
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| 23:08.16 | bucky | i don't use kde but yes |
| 23:08.33 | phaedral | think i'm gonna go with purging the dratted thing; i've already spent too long playing today |
| 23:09.09 | bucky | you only need one dm and since you like kde... |
| 23:09.16 | phaedral | yup |
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| 23:10.54 | rookmoot | hello |
| 23:10.58 | rookmoot | i have a problem... |
| 23:11.10 | rookmoot | when i boot with my 2.6.14 kernel |
| 23:11.10 | bucky | phaedral, i keep vacilating between one and the other |
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| 23:11.19 | fevel | I have a 5 buton mouse, how do I set up the buttons?? |
| 23:11.32 | rookmoot | my boot fail when it try to enter in runlevel |
| 23:11.39 | rookmoot | someone know this problem ? |
| 23:11.59 | `Rage | fevel, me too ;] i'd love to know how as well ;] |
| 23:12.13 | Gathond | rookmoot: to enter what runlevel exactly? |
| 23:12.23 | dotCOMmie | fevel: what model? |
| 23:12.31 | sixtysix | anybody knowing this problem : /usr/local/lib/libcrypto.so.0.9.8: no version information available |
| 23:12.38 | fevel | dotCOMmie: its a generic one |
| 23:12.39 | rookmoot | the boot one |
| 23:12.52 | `Rage | mine's a MS Trackball explorer optical USB ;] |
| 23:13.06 | rookmoot | Gathond: runlevel said : N 2 |
| 23:13.11 | dotCOMmie | I have the logitech, it works quite well |
| 23:13.32 | dotCOMmie | can throw you the xorg config if you want |
| 23:13.36 | remyforbes777 | what iso image should i download to install debian |
| 23:13.41 | bucky | Option "Buttons" "5" |
| 23:14.11 | Gathond | rookmoot: did you not say it failed to boot? |
| 23:14.14 | bucky | the netinstall iso for i386 if you have i386 compatible |
| 23:14.15 | rookmoot | it boot |
| 23:14.19 | `Rage | bucky, in which file? |
| 23:14.28 | rookmoot | but when it try to enter in the runlevel |
| 23:14.34 | stew | sixtysix: /usr/local? thats not a debian issue then |
| 23:14.35 | bucky | `Rage, xorg or xfree? |
| 23:14.40 | `Rage | xfree |
| 23:14.46 | rookmoot | i have a msg asking me to enter my password to maintenance |
| 23:14.50 | Gathond | rookmoot: they what? you are booted and looged in? |
| 23:14.52 | `Rage | heh, the scrollwheel no worky either ;] |
| 23:15.07 | bucky | ` |
| 23:15.11 | Gathond | rookmoot: if you enter runlevel 1 then yes, the system will ask for the root password for maintenance |
| 23:15.16 | `Rage | bucky, come to think of it, i dunno, it's whatever the default for deb is |
| 23:15.32 | bucky | `Rage, check out google and /msg dpkg x md5sums |
| 23:15.35 | rookmoot | Gathond: i dont know why it wants to enter in runlevel 1 |
| 23:15.39 | sniperjo | Can somone help me with seeting up samba to use UNIX passwords |
| 23:15.41 | litage | is it possible to customize the debian installer to use a newer kernel rather than the 2.4 and 2.6 versions it's originally built with? |
| 23:15.47 | rookmoot | Gathond: and the runlevel cmd said me : N 2 |
| 23:15.56 | stew | litage: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 23:16.05 | litage | thanks stew |
| 23:16.07 | Gathond | rookmoot: because debian does this, no one without the root password is intented to be there anyway |
| 23:16.35 | bucky | `Rage, i mean /msg dpkg xmd5sum |
| 23:16.35 | rookmoot | Gathond: what ? dont anderstand sry |
| 23:16.51 | Gathond | rookmoot: yes? that would indicate the system is currently in runlevel 2 and that this is the only one it has been in since boot |
| 23:17.07 | Gathond | rookmoot: debian is supposed to ask for the root password in runlevel 1 |
| 23:17.16 | `Rage | bucky, thanks ;] |
| 23:17.22 | bucky | `Rage, it's the same in every linux distro... /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
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| 23:17.27 | rookmoot | Gathond: i know |
| 23:17.30 | stew | Gathond: you think the runlevel command is incorrect in his case? |
| 23:17.36 | rookmoot | Gathond: but how can i fix it ? |
| 23:17.55 | Gathond | stew: no, actually Im not quite sure where he is :) |
| 23:17.55 | sniperjo | Can somone help me with seeting up samba to use UNIX passwords |
| 23:17.57 | rookmoot | if i boot with the debian kernel i have no prob |
| 23:17.57 | rookmoot | ... |
| 23:18.00 | Gathond | rookmoot: fix what? |
| 23:18.07 | rookmoot | my problem... :) |
| 23:18.13 | Gathond | I havent understood what it is the problem is :) |
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| 23:18.50 | phaedral | Looking for a clue: forgot what I tweaked that let me ssh from my laptop and run xmms on mini-tower with X forwarded to the laptop... |
| 23:19.07 | Gathond | rookmoot: you attempt to boot a kernel image you made? and this fails somewhere or what? |
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| 23:19.26 | lightbright | mike_sol: yes, it froze with no moving mouse pointer. Will <ctrl><alt><backspace> to restart X still work if that happens? |
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| 23:19.52 | rookmoot | Gathond: i attempt to boot under a kernel i made |
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| 23:20.07 | Gathond | lightbright: provided its only the mouse which is frozen and not the keyboard input as well |
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| 23:20.14 | rookmoot | Gathond: i dont find source for 2.6.8-2-386 on apt |
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| 23:20.42 | Gathond | rookmoot: might be true, I dont track the specific versions there |
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| 23:21.31 | mike_sol | lightbright, always worth a try; ctrl alt f1to get to console is good too |
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| 23:21.36 | lightbright | mike_sol: /var/log/syslog didnt contain anything about it and neother /var/log/messages |
| 23:21.37 | rookmoot | Gathond: where can i have the repo url to install recent deb kernel with apt ? |
| 23:21.43 | mike_sol | lightbright, that will only work if keyboard input is working in X |
| 23:21.43 | Gathond | rookmoot: where does it fail? |
| 23:21.55 | karsten | jarango: Not particularly (sorry for delay), and rebuilding the initrd should be faster than any other alternative. |
| 23:21.55 | mike_sol | lightbright, run memtest and check your bios reported temperatures and voltages |
| 23:22.00 | lightbright | Gathond: ok, ty |
| 23:22.06 | Gathond | rookmoot: it is probably not there if you are running stable, as new version would not enter stable after release |
| 23:22.20 | rookmoot | iam on sid |
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| 23:22.25 | karsten | jarango: ... IIRC the cramfs is read-only anyway, like iso9660. You can't modify it once it's been created. |
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| 23:22.45 | pem3v78 | anyone tried to install weblogic server 9.0 on sarge ? |
| 23:22.52 | lightbright | mike_sol: its only ever happened once in 2 months! when I was using Ms Wincrap, it happened daily, yet with Debian once in 2 monthst is good |
| 23:22.57 | Gathond | rookmoot: then I'm almost possitive there is a 2.6.12 realease and probably also newer |
| 23:23.13 | rookmoot | Gathond: dont see them... |
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| 23:23.28 | rookmoot | there is on contrib ? main ? |
| 23:23.31 | Gathond | rookmoot: linux-image-2.6- something? |
| 23:23.35 | mike_sol | lightbright, id still run the tests; a hard crash is a hard crash. that infrequent leads me to suspect power issues, surge/spike/sag or something along those lines. |
| 23:23.44 | mike_sol | lightbright, do you have a nice power supply or just a regular one |
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| 23:24.10 | lightbright | mike_sol: regular |
| 23:24.18 | rookmoot | Gathond: i have the img but not the source... |
| 23:24.21 | Gathond | rookmoot: should probably be main, but I think the packages changed naming scheme at some point |
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| 23:24.59 | mike_sol | lightbright, yeah check them voltages. maybe install some sort of hardware monitoring package and configure it to log regularly to syslog - once that's going, try stress testing the system by running as much of everything as you can |
| 23:25.07 | sniperjo | miluta: somone else says that the password hases of samba and unix are inconpatable |
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| 23:25.57 | lightbright | mike_sol: ok thanks |
| 23:26.35 | Gathond | rookmoot: unless you want to compile you own you should not need anything but the image |
| 23:26.44 | litage | stew: have you ever made a custom debian installer? |
| 23:26.59 | rookmoot | Gathond: i cant install nvidia driver without source |
| 23:27.04 | sniperjo | Can somone help me with seeting up samba to use UNIX passwords |
| 23:27.24 | Gathond | rookmoot: you probably need the headers, but you should not need the source as such |
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| 23:30.23 | fbi | litage: there are etch net-install cds that come with a newer kernel than sarge's (if that's what you are trying to accomplish) |
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| 23:30.46 | phaedral | ForwardX11 yes in my ./ssh/config doesn't seem to be doing the trick of letting my laptop run xmms remotely; clues? |
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| 23:30.58 | Vilerage | heh nifty the scroll wheel works now at least ;] |
| 23:31.03 | rookmoot | Gathond: i try them.. |
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| 23:31.20 | litage | fbi: i apparently need 2.6.10 for my sata controller. unfortunately though, i need sarge rather than etch |
| 23:31.33 | litage | fbi: do you know which kernels the etch installer has? |
| 23:31.40 | waox | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:31.46 | fbi | litage: whatever kernel is in etch, probably 2.6.12 |
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| 23:32.06 | stew | litage: i have not |
| 23:32.10 | fbi | litage: the etch cds are daily builds so they will be current with what's in the testing branch |
| 23:32.37 | litage | it goes stable, unstable, testing, right? |
| 23:32.40 | Gokee2 | How do you tell what cpu a computer running debian has? |
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| 23:32.53 | fbi | no. packages enter unstable first, then testing |
| 23:32.53 | waox | and then i installed grub on /dev/hda, having the debian ext3 partition on /dev/hda2 |
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| 23:32.59 | litage | ah |
| 23:33.11 | mike_sol | Gokee2, cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 23:33.11 | dotCOMmie | phaedral: are you using the -X flag when establishing connection? |
| 23:33.15 | waox | it turned out to an error |
| 23:33.22 | Gokee2 | mike_sol, thank you |
| 23:33.30 | enveezee | its sad I got more bottles of Jagermiester on my desk than the liquor store has on the shelf |
| 23:33.32 | phaedral | dotCOMmie: dunno how to tell; sshd comes up at boot |
| 23:33.39 | mike_sol | enveezee, are they full |
| 23:33.41 | mike_sol | or empty |
| 23:33.48 | fbi | enveezee: that's the sign of a true boozer |
| 23:33.53 | fbi | that shit makes me black out |
| 23:33.54 | enveezee | mike_sol: nope just this little 50ml one is full |
| 23:33.55 | phaedral | was trying to do it in my user-level .ssh/config rather than something global |
| 23:34.05 | BlueWings | how do I ensure a script that I have runs at system startup |
| 23:34.07 | dotCOMmie | phaedral: when you connect to your media box you need to ssh -X username@myBox |
| 23:34.12 | mike_sol | enveezee, would you like my office shipping address to send that to? |
| 23:34.16 | enveezee | fbi: I drink it with RedBull its never done me wrong |
| 23:34.16 | mike_sol | i'm dying over here |
| 23:34.27 | phaedral | dotCOMmie: doh; thanks |
| 23:34.32 | jjazz | Jager is really good on slices of apple |
| 23:34.34 | OENEUS | hi... how can I fix "Can't locate Debconf/Db.pm in @INC (@INC contains:"?? |
| 23:34.44 | fbi | enveezee: yummm, try that with a splash of vodka |
| 23:34.57 | OENEUS | I did this command "dpkg --force-all --configure fontconfig" |
| 23:35.15 | enveezee | right now I just bought two 50ml bottles of Jagermiester and two 8oz Redbulls, you take a sip of the bull and then pour in the alcohol :P |
| 23:35.25 | zu22 | one of my friends claims he received a confidential memo from bill gates by mistake lol |
| 23:35.39 | zu22 | he says the mail header proves it is from gates |
| 23:35.40 | zu22 | weird |
| 23:35.47 | enveezee | $10 for two 8oz alcoholic beverages isnt really cheap, but its good stuff |
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| 23:35.54 | jjazz | zu22: Does it say Gates is testing his email system and will pay your firned $100 to forward it on? |
| 23:36.03 | zu22 | jjazz: let me ask him |
| 23:36.06 | Ronin | zu22: bill say anyting interesting? damn jjazz you beat me to it |
| 23:36.07 | sloncho | hi. I need to pass some options to my nic module when it loads. it is 3c59x. Where I should place options=xxxx line? |
| 23:36.15 | dotCOMmie | zu22: give me your email and I send yo a message from ghandi |
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| 23:36.25 | Gathond | zu22: well mail headers are usually just whatever the senders mail client felt like putting there:) so dont put too much weight on that |
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| 23:36.35 | zu22 | dotCOMMie: haha |
| 23:36.41 | l3m | how do i set the terminal keyboard layout? |
| 23:36.44 | zu22 | gathond: ah |
| 23:37.31 | fbi | l3m: console-data ? |
| 23:37.40 | l3m | fbi: thanks |
| 23:37.44 | enveezee | oh boy tornado watch |
| 23:37.47 | fbi | no problem |
| 23:37.52 | fbi | enveezee: where |
| 23:37.53 | enveezee | may have a power outage tonight |
| 23:38.08 | enveezee | fbi: well right now I got my weather applet set on Wheeling |
| 23:38.18 | BlueWings | err... could someone tell me how to have a script run at system startup? |
| 23:38.33 | fbi | man this is a horrible season as far as extreme weather |
| 23:38.35 | zu22 | enveezee: we have one here in PA |
| 23:38.44 | zu22 | enveezee; you near Pgh? |
| 23:38.49 | dotCOMmie | BlueWings: man cron |
| 23:38.49 | enveezee | zu22: when I set it to Pittsburgh I can only see from like wheeling out to the atlantic ocean, but with it set on wheeling I can see all the way from Dayton to Philly almost |
| 23:38.55 | enveezee | zu22: I am from PHG |
| 23:39.04 | zu22 | enveezee: i am in Pgh. |
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| 23:39.20 | jjazz | zu22: I think that should be spelled Ugh. |
| 23:39.23 | enveezee | zu22: I need to get a url for Wheeling sat and program it in so I can get the phg weather with the wheeling satellite |
| 23:39.35 | Gnea | fbi: or a terrific season, depending how ya look at it |
| 23:39.36 | zu22 | jjazz: nah it is pretty cool here in many ways heh it isn't 1950s anymore ;) |
| 23:39.38 | waox | how do i erase grub from /dev/hda? |
| 23:39.41 | enveezee | zu22: with it on pgh I cant see a storm comming until I am riding it |
| 23:39.57 | enveezee | zu22: with it on wheeling I can see like a 300mile parimiter around PGH |
| 23:39.58 | zu22 | enveezee: what prog u use for sat info? |
| 23:40.00 | fbi | Gnea: i guess. meteorologists might find it terrific heh |
| 23:40.03 | jjazz | Haven't been to pgh in 10 years, but I didn't like it when I visited. |
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| 23:40.20 | enveezee | zu22: I am using the weather.com through gnome-weather-applet |
| 23:40.20 | zu22 | jjazz: ah |
| 23:40.27 | zu22 | enveezee: run for the hills! :) |
| 23:40.34 | zu22 | jjazz: where u live? |
| 23:40.46 | jjazz | zu22: Hell's Kitchen |
| 23:40.58 | jjazz | zu22: er... that's in nyc |
| 23:41.10 | enveezee | zu22: the winds just started kicking up when you said that and now its raining |
| 23:41.17 | zu22 | jjazz: oh ya i knew that |
| 23:41.19 | pem3v78 | my server box runs out of entropy for /dev/random and ssh server hangs. What can I do ? |
| 23:41.41 | zu22 | jjazz: crazy weather, was 73 today and will hit 29 by tomorrow night! warmest november i've seen in years here |
| 23:41.43 | enveezee | zu22: and fyi its safer where I am in the valley when tornados are likely |
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| 23:42.01 | zu22 | enveezee; weird |
| 23:42.16 | jjazz | Just stay out of trailer parks. |
| 23:42.25 | zu22 | haha that's always good advice :D |
| 23:42.31 | enveezee | tonados cant really rip up a small valley like this |
| 23:42.46 | enveezee | they would loose strength from the hills on either side of the river |
| 23:44.04 | jjazz | NY isn't tornado country, and it's not warm enough for much hurricane action. Whenever we have hurricanes, though, I'm panfully reminded I live on an island. |
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| 23:44.40 | dotCOMmie | jjazz: where on island? |
| 23:44.55 | fbi | i've only seen a funnel cloud once in california, and it was a water spout over the ocean during that really bad el nino of 1999 |
| 23:45.01 | jjazz | Manhattan is an island. |
| 23:45.27 | fbi | that shit freaked me out |
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| 23:46.56 | ows | what's the best images conversor (that works either on win and *nix) |
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| 23:47.10 | dotCOMmie | ows: imagemagic |
| 23:47.15 | gravity | ows: imagemagick, although I don't know if it works on windows |
| 23:47.22 | gravity | But it's a long-time standby |
| 23:47.23 | dotCOMmie | gravity: sure does |
| 23:47.24 | Azar | fbi I forgot what ~/.xxx means? the ~/ ? |
| 23:47.31 | gravity | dotCOMmie: Rock. That's good to know. |
| 23:47.36 | gravity | ows: The gimp also will work |
| 23:47.38 | fbi | Azar: ~/ == home directory |
| 23:47.49 | Azar | fbi, thank you |
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| 23:48.18 | Ronin | enveezee: on purpose? |
| 23:48.26 | enveezee | Ronin: yep. |
| 23:48.29 | Ronin | ewww |
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| 23:48.36 | enveezee | Randy Travis.. its not really even good country |
| 23:48.38 | Azar | fbi I asked because I do not see any ~/.xsession in my home directory |
| 23:48.40 | ows | gravity: it works on win, but it only saves to jpeg |
| 23:48.46 | mike_sol | holy crap, i just read about people using USB memory keys to exploit systems using the DMA access the host controller provides the devices with |
| 23:48.50 | fbi | Azar: it won't be there until you create it |
| 23:48.53 | mike_sol | i want to make one of these keys |
| 23:48.58 | enveezee | I used to be a country fan as a small child went to see Randy Travis once when I was a young boy |
| 23:49.01 | gravity | ows: Gimp? No way... |
| 23:49.24 | enveezee | I really like that song he wrote that played at the end of the movie "Black Dog" he starred in. |
| 23:49.26 | Azar | fbi, so I just make an empty file named xsession in my home directory? |
| 23:49.40 | fbi | Azar: .xsession |
| 23:49.47 | fbi | Azar: what do you plan to do with it? |
| 23:49.48 | enveezee | I liked the movie too.. especially that Randy Travis played an aspiring musician who couldnt really hold a tune |
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| 23:49.50 | dotCOMmie | ows: both gimp and imagemagick can save to a variety of formats. |
| 23:50.08 | ows | dotCOMmie: imagemagick display? |
| 23:50.29 | Azar | fbi I try to set a feh background to load everytime at startx |
| 23:50.38 | gravity | feh? |
| 23:50.43 | d03boy | does anyone know of a good mp3 player that is supported by linux? |
| 23:50.43 | fbi | Azar: what is feh |
| 23:50.43 | dotCOMmie | ows: ? |
| 23:50.48 | d03boy | err, that supports linux |
| 23:50.58 | Azar | fbi: http://packages.debian.org/stable/graphics/feh |
| 23:51.07 | gravity | d03boy: You mean hardware ones or software ones? |
| 23:51.36 | d03boy | hardware |
| 23:51.50 | fbi | Azar: you could probably just use xsetroot for that |
| 23:51.52 | gravity | Pretty much any of them work I guess. ipods are popular. |
| 23:51.58 | Guerin | d03boy: anything which can do USB Mass Storage |
| 23:51.59 | fbi | or if you're running blackbox, bsetbg |
| 23:52.06 | gravity | I have a neuros, which is good if you want to play oggs, but other than that it's not that great |
| 23:52.07 | d03boy | Guerin, ok, thanks |
| 23:52.13 | Guerin | d03boy: i recommend iAudio |
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| 23:52.26 | Azar | fbi: Feh stores the commandline necessary to restore the background you chose in ~/.fehbg. So to have feh-set backgrounds restored when you restart add the line "eval `cat $HOME/.fehbg`" to your X startup script (e.g. ~/.xsession). |
| 23:52.26 | d03boy | gravity, ogg's dont seem like the abundant file type quite yet :\ |
| 23:52.27 | fbi | actually bsetbg works in fluxbox too |
| 23:52.28 | enveezee | I bought the black dog soundtrack which sucked just for that one song I think its cute |
| 23:52.33 | d03boy | Guerin, ill look into it |
| 23:52.39 | gravity | d03boy: I rip my own cd's to it, so I need that |
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| 23:53.11 | Azar | fbi, I guess I have to go root and edit the /etc/X11/Xsession file this way |
| 23:53.18 | fbi | Azar: should work, try it out |
| 23:53.26 | Azar | the ~/ is I guess just an example |
| 23:53.48 | Guerin | Azar: no |
| 23:54.08 | fbi | i don't think those two files do the same thing (i could be wrong) |
| 23:54.24 | fbi | man xsession |
| 23:54.36 | Guerin | Azar: you should never need to edit /etc/X11/* for a normal user; you should only ever need to if you need to set something globally for users without a dotfile of their own |
| 23:54.44 | Azar | aha is the USRRESROUCES and the USERXSESSION |
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| 23:55.03 | fbi | !beer abrotman |
| 23:55.22 | abrotman | yay |
| 23:55.22 | gravity | Mmm... spaten optimator |
| 23:55.32 | abrotman | mmm .. gravity |
| 23:55.40 | fbi | whoa. |
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| 23:56.07 | SuperSox | hey, I've got a networked printer, what should I be reading up on in order to print from it? Cups doesn't seem to be the right thing as I don't really need a full print server/spooler system like that surely? |
| 23:56.25 | abrotman | cups |
| 23:56.30 | abrotman | lpr ? |
| 23:56.41 | stew | cups of optimator? |
| 23:56.59 | abrotman | pitchers |
| 23:57.00 | SuperSox | hummm |
| 23:57.03 | stew | i had a couple of seasonals from magic hat that were good last night |
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| 23:57.09 | SuperSox | okay, I'll continue reading through the cups documentation |
| 23:57.28 | jjazz | SuperSox: The printer does its own spooling, but I think you still need cups on the client. At least, that's how I have it. |
| 23:57.29 | abrotman | erm .. magic hat #9 is not on my list |
| 23:57.39 | stew | which list is that? |
| 23:57.44 | abrotman | of stuff to drnik |
| 23:58.05 | stew | i'm not generally a big magic hat fan, but these were good |
| 23:58.14 | SuperSox | jjazz: ahh right - that's why I'm getting confused, all the documentation I'm reading is about setting cups up as a server/spooler which strikes me as a bit of a wast eof time for my needs :) |
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