| 00:00.01 | Frankablu | *listen |
| 00:00.06 | gnomefreak | mhall, im not real sure what dc cleint is for |
| 00:00.14 | mhall | gnomefreak: what do you need to know? i've compiled all of them from source |
| 00:00.27 | mhall | gnomefreak: i'm not quite sure what it is that you want |
| 00:00.47 | gnomefreak | what they do i read that theres a chat in it and looks like a browser |
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| 00:01.15 | mhall | gnomefreak: well the main purpose is trading files with people |
| 00:01.22 | gnomefreak | dc to me is direct connect* but to what another pc? |
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| 00:01.24 | mhall | gnomefreak: it's like irc but geared toward good file trnasfer |
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| 00:01.35 | gnomefreak | ahhhhhhh ty mhall |
| 00:01.43 | mhall | gnomefreak: you connect to a hub which lets you search the other people connected |
| 00:01.52 | mhall | gnomefreak: and you can ul/dl from each other pretty efficiently |
| 00:02.04 | mhall | gnomefreak: but in order to get on you usu. have to have a LOT shared |
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| 00:02.33 | carlinhos | hi there |
| 00:02.35 | gnomefreak | ty mhall that answers the questions i had |
| 00:02.49 | mhall | gnomefreak: yeah you got it |
| 00:02.53 | cindy | i need help installing java run time |
| 00:03.03 | mhall | cindy: yeah ok |
| 00:03.07 | mhall | cindy: what's the issue |
| 00:03.13 | [FileFly] | mhall, thanks bud, don't suppose theres any chance ya could send me libcap.so.1? ():-) |
| 00:03.16 | cindy | im lost |
| 00:03.18 | [FileFly] | or upload it indeed ;) |
| 00:03.19 | mhall | java is a little fucker |
| 00:03.32 | gnomefreak | java is a lil fucker is right |
| 00:03.36 | mhall | [FileFly]: yeah i would send with irc but dcc is broken cause my edu has shit firewall |
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| 00:03.48 | gnomefreak | debian have the blackhawk java in repos? |
| 00:03.48 | mhall | or rather a big fucker since it's so bloated |
| 00:03.53 | petroleum | java is nice :D |
| 00:04.01 | mhall | blackdown java is out of date these days |
| 00:04.02 | carlinhos | i have set up tls on exim4 , how can i make exim4 only acceps tls?, if i telnet port25 and dont use starttls y can send mail. thanks |
| 00:04.06 | mhall | petroleum: multiplatform my ass |
| 00:04.13 | mhall | petroleum: linux sparc and linux ppc are desupported |
| 00:04.15 | cindy | i down loaded jvr1.5.0.05.bin |
| 00:04.21 | gnomefreak | oh great and im using it on my ubuntu :( |
| 00:04.24 | [FileFly] | mhall, well HTTP is better, im on IRC on a windows desktop but i only have standard rights and i've tried several burning apps and they all either need nero or wont see my drive =\ |
| 00:04.25 | petroleum | :) |
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| 00:04.44 | mhall | cindy: yeah here's what you do |
| 00:04.49 | mhall | [FileFly]: oof |
| 00:04.50 | Dewi | apt-get update is repoting "Ign" for several security.debian.org items... what does that mean? |
| 00:04.56 | [FileFly] | mhall? =S |
| 00:05.47 | mhall | [FileFly]: www.mhcomputing.net/~mhall/libcap.so.1 |
| 00:05.52 | dli | gnomefreak, did you have any problem at dist-upgrade? |
| 00:05.55 | mhall | cindy: install java-package |
| 00:06.06 | mhall | cindy: then run make-jpkg <path to java bin file> |
| 00:06.11 | mhall | cindy: and it'll generate a deb |
| 00:06.17 | mhall | cindy: take the deb and dpkg -i it |
| 00:06.19 | gnomefreak | dli, still going just a bunch of language errors |
| 00:06.19 | fken | mhall: did you find any help for me? I need to read my mailbox so its annoying to be aware about the irc and about the mailbox together |
| 00:06.22 | mhall | cindy: then bob's your uncle |
| 00:06.34 | fken | mhall: you could pm me... |
| 00:06.35 | cindy | let me try |
| 00:06.38 | cindy | brb |
| 00:06.46 | dli | gnomefreak, oh, slow network |
| 00:06.46 | mhall | fken: yeah i'm still working on it let me google a little more |
| 00:06.56 | mhall | fken: i'll pm a one liner once i find it |
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| 00:07.06 | gnomefreak | dsl light it downloads at something like 27kb/s dli |
| 00:07.23 | valdyn_ | fken: vice versa its 'hdc=scsi' i suspect it might be 'hdc=ide' passed to your kernel at boottime |
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| 00:08.02 | fken | mhall: then dont worry if i dont answer quickly (I am reading mails of my developping team) |
| 00:08.28 | gnomefreak | fiber optic connection? |
| 00:08.38 | fken | valdyn_ : what are you talking about? how do you know my cdrom is in hdc ? |
| 00:08.48 | valdyn_ | fken: i dont |
| 00:09.01 | fken | valdyn_ : but youre right |
| 00:09.02 | gnomefreak | valdyn_, now you do ;) |
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| 00:09.44 | carlinhos | yo have been hacked ;) |
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| 00:10.04 | fken | valdyn_: i have been forced to put /dev/scd0 in my fstab but its only because i have no /dev/hdc |
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| 00:10.28 | valdyn_ | fken: yea i know, thats why you pass some option to the kernel at boottime |
| 00:10.38 | fken | valdyn_: but you were speaking about kernel then i am confusing myself |
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| 00:10.47 | [FileFly] | mhall, looks like im gonna have to find another way but thanks bud! =) |
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| 00:10.56 | gnomefreak | etch has what kernel? |
| 00:10.57 | fken | valdyn how can i control these options ? |
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| 00:11.21 | thingfish | gnomefreak: see packages.debian.org |
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| 00:11.23 | FlimFlamMan | hi. i'm trying several different portable audio players. the samsungs are showing up as a scsi partition as soon as i plug them into a usb port, but the irivers aren't, though dmesg tells me *something* was detected getting connected. has anyone had experience with iriver devices on linux? |
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| 00:11.29 | gnomefreak | ty thingfish |
| 00:11.37 | thingfish | iirc 2.6.12, gnomefreak |
| 00:11.56 | dli | gnomefreak, I always use custom kernel |
| 00:12.07 | valdyn_ | fken: edit the line with 'kopt' in /boot/grub/menu.lst and run update-grub |
| 00:12.33 | mhall | [FileFly]: what happened when you try it |
| 00:12.39 | speedy | exit |
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| 00:12.47 | mhall | cindy: any luck yet? |
| 00:12.51 | gnomefreak | dli ive nevre compiles a kernel and im kinda scared too |
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| 00:13.11 | fken | valdyn_: here is my actual line : kernel/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 root=/dev/sda1 ro console=tty0 |
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| 00:13.17 | gnomefreak | now im getitng networking I/O errors :( |
| 00:13.33 | fken | valdyn_: can you say me where i should add kopt ? |
| 00:13.35 | gnomefreak | network entity error |
| 00:13.38 | dli | gnomefreak, for me, it's quite easy, I was scared by the initrd image |
| 00:14.05 | dli | gnomefreak, you can always restart apt-get in downloading |
| 00:14.15 | valdyn_ | fken: kopt already is in that file, find it.. add options there |
| 00:14.33 | fken | oh ok |
| 00:14.39 | valdyn_ | fken: hdx=scsi is documented, the other way around isnt, so no idea if that might work or not.. |
| 00:14.51 | bonz | uhuh |
| 00:14.57 | krassy1809 | How i can setup kpackage or apt-get to select for install not only depends , but recommends and suggested packages ? |
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| 00:15.43 | cindy | mhall, no luck |
| 00:15.48 | gnomefreak | im gonna let it run through se ewhat happens |
| 00:15.53 | mhall | cindy: what happened |
| 00:15.57 | cindy | i dont see a /bin. |
| 00:16.02 | mhall | cindy: no no no |
| 00:16.04 | cindy | /bin/java |
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| 00:16.07 | mhall | cindy: you want the .bin file itself |
| 00:16.14 | mhall | cindy: the one from Sun |
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| 00:16.22 | mhall | cindy: pass the path to the bin file to make-jpkg |
| 00:16.35 | mhall | cindy: and it uses the bin file to generate a debian package |
| 00:16.38 | fken | valdyn_: all i fund is written with a # at the beginning (commentary) |
| 00:16.50 | fken | valdyn_: and there is nothing about cdrom |
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| 00:17.17 | dli | fken, yes, single '#' means templates, don't uncomment it, just edit to your need |
| 00:17.22 | krassy1809 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:17.42 | cindy | so make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin |
| 00:17.42 | fken | valdyn_: should i write kopt=root=/dev/hdc ? |
| 00:17.47 | mhall | cindy: correct |
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| 00:18.19 | fken | i guess the ro means read only |
| 00:18.29 | mhall | krassy1809: usually you use aptitude when you want that |
| 00:18.41 | valdyn_ | fken: uh no |
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| 00:18.53 | valdyn_ | fken: leave the root setting alone |
| 00:19.00 | cindy | debian:/home/debian# make jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin |
| 00:19.01 | cindy | make: *** No rule to make target `jpkg'. Stop. |
| 00:19.05 | mhall | cindy: wrong |
| 00:19.09 | gnomefreak | i think its gonna reboot me |
| 00:19.13 | mhall | cindy: make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin |
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| 00:19.23 | fken | valdyn_: so what should i do then? |
| 00:19.38 | mhall | cindy: the command to make the java package is called make-jpkg |
| 00:19.41 | cindy | oh i missed the - |
| 00:19.45 | mhall | cindy: yeah |
| 00:19.49 | cindy | k |
| 00:20.08 | valdyn_ | fken: you would just add a new option at the end of that line |
| 00:20.20 | krassy1809 | mhall:do aptitude do what i want without any setting ? |
| 00:20.20 | silvano | does anybody here use xorg with shadows and transparency effects with a radeon board with sucess?? |
| 00:20.26 | valdyn_ | fken: but right now i dont see specifying ide supported. |
| 00:20.54 | mhall | krassy1809: yeah it should |
| 00:20.55 | cindy | debian:/home/debian# make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_05-linux-i586.bin |
| 00:20.55 | cindy | bash: make-jpkg: command not found |
| 00:21.08 | valdyn_ | fken: ok, that should be it, if im reading the source correctly, append to that line 'hdc=cdrom' |
| 00:21.11 | mhall | cindy: ok you have to run apt-get install java-package first |
| 00:21.18 | efaistos | Do you know a good alternative of Pan since this one uses to much memory when a group is too big ? I'm using Pan especially for binaries groups ... |
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| 00:21.25 | valdyn_ | fken: after that run update-grub, and reboot |
| 00:21.29 | cindy | ok |
| 00:21.29 | Andy837 | trying to install xfree86 and i get..... |
| 00:21.32 | mhall | cindy: java-package is the debian package that includes the make-jpkg tool |
| 00:21.33 | cindy | thank you |
| 00:21.36 | Andy837 | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 00:21.36 | Andy837 | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 00:21.36 | Andy837 | E: Couldn't find package XFree86 |
| 00:21.37 | blockd | efaistos: only klibido or bnr, but I don't either of them either... |
| 00:21.42 | mhall | cindy: yeah no problem |
| 00:22.01 | fken | valdyn_: there is no "cdrom" occurency in my menu.lst |
| 00:22.05 | valdyn_ | fken: i hope you checked if you have ide_cd support at all in that kernel.. |
| 00:22.14 | valdyn_ | fken: why the hell would there be? |
| 00:22.18 | blockd | efaistos: I mean, I'm not fond of either of those other two either |
| 00:22.21 | stew | Andy837: install x-window-system-core |
| 00:22.34 | valdyn_ | fken: your ADD 'hdc=cdrom' in the like that already had kopt at the start |
| 00:22.42 | Andy837 | x-window-system-core is already the newest version. |
| 00:22.42 | Andy837 | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 00:22.46 | efaistos | blockd, I'll check those two to see how they are ... |
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| 00:23.22 | Rez | anybody got a clue on this one from spamassassin? Cannot open bayes databases ~/.spamassassin/bayes_* R/O: tie failed: |
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| 00:23.43 | stew | Andy837: what are you trying to do? |
| 00:23.50 | Andy837 | install kde |
| 00:23.59 | blockd | efaistos: YMMV, but I found klibido unstable and BNR fugly and I've heard it likes to trash it's database occasionally, at least BNR2 |
| 00:24.14 | stew | Andy837: apt-get install kde |
| 00:24.33 | Andy837 | installs ok but wont run |
| 00:24.36 | beardy | unless in etch, if it hasn't been fixed yet |
| 00:24.43 | Andy837 | checks for local input devices i think, can i disable that? |
| 00:24.58 | stew | Andy837: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 00:25.16 | Andy837 | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 00:25.27 | blockd | efaistos: but I don't think there are any better options for native linux apps... |
| 00:25.35 | stew | Andy837: its complaining it cant find a pointer? |
| 00:25.48 | blockd | efaistos: i.e., not running on wine or something |
| 00:25.50 | efaistos | blockd, because pan is really heavy and crashes when the group has over 2 million of articles ... |
| 00:26.04 | Andy837 | stew: yeh |
| 00:26.16 | blockd | efaistos: yes, it's useless for that. CVS supposedly requires less memory, but is still useless unless you have a gig IMO. |
| 00:26.19 | efaistos | blockd, i dont use wine at all ... |
| 00:26.21 | blockd | Even then... |
| 00:26.33 | stew | Andy837: what kind of mouse do you have? usb? ps2? |
| 00:26.38 | Andy837 | nothing locally |
| 00:26.39 | efaistos | I confirm even then |
| 00:26.44 | blockd | efaistos: I think that's why so many people use nzb files instead of d/l'ing headers nowadays anyway |
| 00:26.44 | efaistos | I have over 1go |
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| 00:27.06 | efaistos | blockd, ? |
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| 00:27.21 | cindy | mhall, that was cool |
| 00:27.27 | cindy | now what do i do |
| 00:27.33 | efaistos | I never really knew what those files are about .... |
| 00:27.36 | fken | valdyn_: I pm you because i didnt understood your sentence and because i didnt want to flood |
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| 00:27.57 | blockd | efaistos: they contain message IDs, so a program can download the article directly without needing to retrieve headers |
| 00:28.11 | EvilDebian | Is there anyone here who's gotten ndiswrapper and wpa_supplicant to work reliably? I have to poke the interface with a stick a couple times to get it to pay attention |
| 00:28.25 | blockd | efaistos: the only one I like is nzbperl, you can google for that at noisybox.net. But... I'm getting OT since that isn't a Debian package ;) |
| 00:28.45 | zinx | EvilDebian: -D wext |
| 00:28.48 | Andy837 | stew: full error....http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/vtNkJ388.html |
| 00:28.50 | blockd | efaistos: but I don't think it'd be OT to mention which Debian packages for perl libraries you need to install |
| 00:28.55 | gnomefreak | is there a resume program or applet for debian? |
| 00:28.57 | ziupiu | cindy, dpkg -i jre...deb |
| 00:29.01 | EvilDebian | zinx: come again? |
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| 00:29.08 | zinx | EvilDebian: instead of -D ndiswrapper |
| 00:29.08 | cindy | ok |
| 00:29.11 | cindy | brb |
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| 00:29.19 | efaistos | blockd, works great ? |
| 00:29.22 | EvilDebian | hmm, will wext support my chipset? |
| 00:29.28 | blockd | efaistos: it works... it's spartan though. |
| 00:29.28 | zinx | EvilDebian: it will support ndiswrapper. |
| 00:29.32 | stew | Andy837: have you tried removing the Pointer entries in the serverlayout section? |
| 00:29.32 | EvilDebian | (broadcom on an Acer Aspire 3000) |
| 00:29.39 | EvilDebian | well huh. |
| 00:29.49 | Andy837 | where how? |
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| 00:30.03 | ultraviolet16 | hi everyone, I deleted my samba.conf in hopes that |
| 00:30.05 | ultraviolet16 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.08 | ultraviolet16 | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:30.09 | blockd | efaistos: I tried knzb, and I had to fix its code to even get it to compile and then it still didn't work. Apparently knzb had been integrated with klibido. |
| 00:30.11 | EvilDebian | Ok, let me ask you this. Should I have to do "ifconfig wlan0 up" before I launch wpa_supplicant? |
| 00:30.17 | zinx | EvilDebian: it shouldn't matter |
| 00:30.23 | EvilDebian | ok |
| 00:30.33 | efaistos | blockd, nothin fot gnome ? |
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| 00:30.40 | blockd | not that I know of |
| 00:30.44 | EvilDebian | should i put the ssid and key in /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf or in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 00:30.47 | efaistos | I dont use kde or qt libs ... |
| 00:30.52 | blockd | efaistos: usenet isn't that popular anymore... |
| 00:30.58 | Andy837 | stew: how can i disable the inputs? |
| 00:31.00 | zinx | EvilDebian: uhm, wpa_supplicant of course |
| 00:31.03 | EvilDebian | ok |
| 00:31.15 | EvilDebian | imma try that |
| 00:31.18 | efaistos | blockd, and it's better :) |
| 00:31.21 | EvilDebian | hopefully back in a bit |
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| 00:31.32 | efaistos | blockd, they're focusing on P2P :)= |
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| 00:31.46 | ultraviolet16 | when dpkg-reconfigure doesn't come up, what do you do? |
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| 00:32.28 | stew | Andy837: i don't know if "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" gives you an option for no mouse, if it did, that would be the preferred method, otherwise you are going to have to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, if you do, read the comments at the top |
| 00:32.35 | ziupiu | ultraviolet16, cp /usr/share/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba |
| 00:32.47 | blockd | efaistos: well... don't think you're anonymous on usenet :-) At least you can actually d/l legit things there... |
| 00:33.15 | ultraviolet16 | ziupiu: that's the one that was created upon instalation right? I need to run the script that created that file again, any ideas? |
| 00:33.28 | efaistos | blockd, I didnt say that but they're too worry about P2P and stuffs around it |
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| 00:34.27 | Hostile | Ok something is using my soundcard therefor I can't listen to music, how do I tell what is using it? |
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| 00:34.54 | ziupiu | ultraviolet16, try configure by swat |
| 00:34.56 | beardy | Hostile: fuser or lsof |
| 00:35.01 | ultraviolet16 | what's swat? |
| 00:35.14 | beardy | !swat |
| 00:35.14 | dpkg | from memory, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
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| 00:35.42 | Hostile | beardy, lsof worked nice |
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| 00:35.47 | Hostile | thanks alot |
| 00:36.02 | beardy | Hostile: Great :) You're welcome. |
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| 00:36.25 | Hostile | I have this problem alot...and I finally got fed up enough to ask because I knew there was some command that would do that |
| 00:36.31 | ultraviolet16 | ziupiu: hmm thanks.. i'll try it |
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| 00:38.08 | Vantage__ | anyone know why my cdrom devices don't appear in /sys/block or in the dev (w/ udev and hal) |
| 00:38.57 | stew | Vantage__: modprobe ide_cd? |
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| 00:39.16 | gnomefreak | its done!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 00:39.25 | gnomefreak | guess i should try to reboot now? |
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| 00:40.42 | ultraviolet16 | ziupiu: I installed swat and pointed my browser to localhost:901 yet it told me connection refused by host |
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| 00:41.27 | ziupiu | ultraviolet16, uncomment swat line in /etc/inetd.conf, then killall -HUP inetd |
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| 00:43.12 | indole | How many sound daemons are there and which ones should I be running? |
| 00:43.30 | mhall | cindy: dpkg -i the deb file |
| 00:43.32 | ziupiu | indole, many, none |
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| 00:44.28 | mhall | cindy: did it install right |
| 00:44.46 | indole | heh. :/ |
| 00:44.52 | ohad | why is on linux, that when i use firefox and use flash plugin i can not see certain fonts. on windows and the same firefox withe same plugin i can see the fonts? what fonts do i need to download? (i know this is not #ff) |
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| 00:45.08 | valdyn_ | ohad: msttcorefonts |
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| 00:45.13 | mhall | ohad: please try dl and install msttcorefonts |
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| 00:45.34 | mhall | ohad: BTW fonts and printing are the two worst things in UNIX |
| 00:45.44 | ohad | mhall, what is dl ? |
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| 00:45.59 | mhall | ohad: download |
| 00:46.05 | mhall | ohad: i.e. apt-get install it |
| 00:46.17 | ohad | mhall, doing it. thanks |
| 00:46.17 | beardy | !wiui |
| 00:46.18 | dpkg | What Is Using It? When trying umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a ceirtain thing, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' to see which process and user that is using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
| 00:47.17 | beardy | hmm, I spelled "ceirtain" wrong, fixed. |
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| 00:47.40 | ultraviolet16 | ziupiu: thanks, it worked. I see this is like a giu to control samba.. |
| 00:48.03 | mhall | beardy: a great factoid! |
| 00:48.23 | beardy | mhall: Thanks :) Yes, it can be handy. |
| 00:48.36 | Diggity | can anyone here recommend or reject the use of the firewall frontend package 'guarddog' ? |
| 00:49.16 | mhall | Diggity: for a multi-use system use shorewall |
| 00:49.17 | Supaplex | no opinon whatsoever |
| 00:49.23 | mhall | Diggity: for a one use system use ipcop |
| 00:49.27 | fken | do someone know when the 2.6.14 kernel is supposed to come to etch ? |
| 00:49.38 | Diggity | I have a multi-use system |
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| 00:50.44 | ziupiu | 'night |
| 00:51.04 | Diggity | yeah have been using IPTABLES but it can get a bit unruley. |
| 00:51.25 | Diggity | config file that is |
| 00:51.27 | fken | ziupiu:nght |
| 00:51.59 | Greatred | fken, if it helps, 2.6.14 is in unstable |
| 00:52.07 | beardy | Diggity: It seems to be a graphical KDE thing? If that is what you want, try it and see what you think? |
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| 00:52.41 | EvilDebian | hmm |
| 00:52.51 | Diggity | beardy - what do you use ? |
| 00:52.54 | EvilDebian | who was helping me with ndiswrapper? |
| 00:53.32 | beardy | Diggity: I use firehol. For me it works nice, but the important thing is what you need/like. |
| 00:53.40 | fken | Greatred: i know and i am installing it : but i dont like the idea of having to much unstable package on my machine (especially the kernel) |
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| 00:54.12 | Diggity | EvilDebian - download issue 3 (i think) of TUX MAGAZINE they had a complete HOW TO tutorial on ndiswrapper which was very easy to follow |
| 00:54.27 | EvilDebian | ndiswrapper isn't the issue, really |
| 00:54.40 | EvilDebian | got the driver installed, and it works (sometimes) |
| 00:54.49 | EvilDebian | it's just inconsistent as to when it works |
| 00:55.15 | EvilDebian | it's wpa_supplicant that's giving me fits |
| 00:55.19 | Diggity | EvilDebian - when does it work? |
| 00:55.29 | herbi | hi all |
| 00:55.30 | EvilDebian | That's just the thing, there's no discernable pattern |
| 00:55.46 | Diggity | EvilDebian - does it work with 128WEP? |
| 00:55.56 | herbi | does anyone know how to set mouse sensitivity in x? |
| 00:55.56 | EvilDebian | sometimes it works if i do "ifconfig wlan0 up" |
| 00:56.04 | EvilDebian | but here's the thing |
| 00:56.06 | herbi | oh hang on |
| 00:56.20 | EvilDebian | i'll do "iwlist wlan0 scan" and it'll say interface not found |
| 00:56.34 | EvilDebian | then i'll immediately do it again and it'll say "no scan" |
| 00:56.44 | herbi | nevermind |
| 00:56.51 | herbi | xset m <sensvalue> |
| 00:56.53 | EvilDebian | then i'll do it again and it'll return AP information |
| 00:56.57 | herbi | (if anyone was curious) |
| 00:56.59 | zinx | EvilDebian: sounds like driver problems to me |
| 00:57.06 | Diggity | EvilDebian - hmmmm is there only one avaible driver? |
| 00:57.07 | fken | so see ya i think i have nvidia driver t install |
| 00:57.18 | zinx | EvilDebian: if it's not, it's hardware problems |
| 00:57.19 | EvilDebian | this is the driver for the PCI ID that I found |
| 00:57.34 | EvilDebian | it works pretty consistently on the windows side |
| 00:57.38 | zinx | the interface should never disappear |
| 00:57.42 | EvilDebian | the ndiswrapper wiki |
| 00:57.45 | EvilDebian | had a list |
| 00:57.48 | zinx | unless you unplug the device |
| 00:57.49 | EvilDebian | and i worked from that |
| 00:57.52 | Diggity | EvilDebian - yeah sounds like a dirver issue - have you checked the model type on the ndswrapper site to see if others have got it to work ? |
| 00:57.54 | EvilDebian | it's an internal card |
| 00:58.01 | zinx | if it's disappearing at other points, then it's a driver/hardware issue |
| 00:58.05 | zinx | most likely driver |
| 00:58.12 | EvilDebian | well once it scans it stays visible |
| 00:58.20 | EvilDebian | it's just like i have to wake it up then it stays awake |
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| 00:58.33 | zinx | well, then the driver's not finding/initializing it fast enough. |
| 00:58.34 | EvilDebian | and ndiswrapper is in modules -l before i do anything |
| 00:58.36 | DA_ | best way to go about replacing the debian install kernel? |
| 00:58.43 | EvilDebian | what about wext |
| 00:58.44 | Diggity | EvilDebian - power management issue? |
| 00:58.58 | EvilDebian | i have acpi disabled |
| 00:59.05 | thingfish | DA_: apt-get install <kernel-of-choice> |
| 00:59.08 | EvilDebian | kernel arg in GRUB |
| 00:59.13 | exalted | Hi. I'm looking for a doc. where i can find all the boot parameters, and descriptions which can be passed to debian installer at boot. |
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| 00:59.50 | DA_ | thingfish: that will take care of modules, grub and the works? |
| 00:59.57 | Diggity | EvilDeb - have you seen anywhere that other people have managed to get the device to work? |
| 01:00.02 | thingfish | DA_: yes. |
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| 01:00.16 | EvilDebian | diggity: yes, on the ndiswrapper wiki |
| 01:00.21 | DA_ | thingfish: ok cool |
| 01:00.21 | beardy | !install guide |
| 01:00.21 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for stable can be found at: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and for woody: http://www.debian.org/releases/woody/installmanual For sid: ask me about "iyhtays". Also ask me about "reference". |
| 01:00.25 | beardy | exalted: ^^^ |
| 01:00.29 | EvilDebian | but there doesn't seem to be a lot of info there past "i got it to work" |
| 01:00.33 | Diggity | EvilDeb - working under deb? |
| 01:00.35 | beardy | exalted: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 01:00.39 | EvilDebian | diggity: yes |
| 01:00.46 | EvilDebian | well actually they didn't specify |
| 01:00.50 | EvilDebian | i take that back |
| 01:00.54 | bonz | Anyone else had an issue of blue on blue consoles after an upgrade & reboot of a sid box? or more importantly a fix for it? |
| 01:01.00 | EvilDebian | but i'm not working from the wpa_supplicant .deb |
| 01:01.02 | EvilDebian | rolled my own |
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| 01:01.19 | exalted | beardy: Thank you. |
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| 01:01.45 | beardy | exalted: You're welcome. |
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| 01:02.24 | mhall | Does anybody have a BIN / ISO to CUE converter for Linux? |
| 01:02.26 | devilx | when will we have Gnome 2.12 in debian? |
| 01:02.39 | Diggity | EvilDeb: how does it go without WPA? |
| 01:03.37 | DA_ | thingfish: so apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp? |
| 01:04.03 | EvilDebian | diggity: fine |
| 01:04.08 | EvilDebian | can connect using ifup |
| 01:04.12 | EvilDebian | no problem |
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| 01:04.28 | Diggity | so WPA is the issue |
| 01:04.31 | EvilDebian | yeah |
| 01:04.37 | EvilDebian | or wpa_supplicant |
| 01:04.43 | EvilDebian | i just got it to work again now |
| 01:05.02 | EvilDebian | i had to start wpa_supplicant then do iwlist wlan0 scan |
| 01:05.12 | Diggity | do you need WPA? what type of environment are you in ? are there other peole close to you that might use snort or similar? |
| 01:05.26 | EvilDebian | and apparently when the interface is down i have to press the hardware button to get it to scan again |
| 01:05.38 | EvilDebian | diggity: home network, and i'm paranoid. wpa is a must. |
| 01:05.42 | blockd | mhall: vcdimager might be able to deal with those... I thought BIN and CUE went hand-in-hand though... but I don't really use those. |
| 01:05.44 | Diggity | lol |
| 01:05.56 | EvilDebian | heh |
| 01:05.59 | ViaD | <mhall>: bchunk |
| 01:06.17 | indole | Is there a good guide out there for setting up sound? |
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| 01:06.44 | Diggity | if your not near anyone that could freely access your network then WPA (may be desired) but not essential |
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| 01:07.05 | bonz | indole: depends on what hardware, software & kernel you intend too use |
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| 01:07.09 | EvilDebian | i can see 4 different APs in a scan |
| 01:07.16 | EvilDebian | thicky settled area |
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| 01:07.23 | stew | indole: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 01:07.34 | Diggity | right - well thenyou're probally right |
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| 01:07.50 | ViaD | <indole>: maybe on www.alsa-project.org/ ? |
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| 01:08.38 | bonz | alsa dont always work |
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| 01:08.42 | EvilDebian | hmm |
| 01:08.57 | bonz | especially if the oss drivers haven't been ported yet |
| 01:09.01 | EvilDebian | well i can get it to work now, but i have to do iwlist wlan0 scan manually |
| 01:09.19 | EvilDebian | and then once it scans wpa_supplicant does its thing |
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| 01:09.42 | EvilDebian | so maybe i'll write a batch |
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| 01:09.56 | EvilDebian | excuse me, a script |
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| 01:10.05 | EvilDebian | (the windows weenie in me showing through) |
| 01:10.07 | Diggity | Evil-deb: http://www.vollink.com/gary/deb_wifi.html |
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| 01:10.17 | Andy837 | how do i start gnome? |
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| 01:11.00 | bonz | Andy837: pour some petrol over him & light a match |
| 01:11.19 | indole | Hm. Alsaconf displays a blank dialog. |
| 01:11.24 | Andy837 | my side are splitting |
| 01:11.30 | Diggity | andy - gdm |
| 01:12.03 | bonz | my brother reckons you end up with a lil black boy with my approach |
| 01:12.16 | Andy837 | ? |
| 01:12.30 | EvilDebian | diggity: nice |
| 01:12.33 | EvilDebian | thanks |
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| 01:12.44 | Diggity | yeah its a nice page |
| 01:12.46 | bucky | apt-get install gdm is the easiest way Andy837 |
| 01:12.46 | bonz | you dont need gdm too use gnome |
| 01:12.50 | Diggity | hope it helps |
| 01:12.57 | EvilDebian | (by the way i don't really think debian is evil, my usual nick is Evil_Otto |
| 01:12.59 | EvilDebian | ) |
| 01:13.02 | bonz | installing any gnome based app will include it |
| 01:13.04 | EvilDebian | so this is what I use here :) |
| 01:13.09 | bucky | startx gnome-session might work |
| 01:13.46 | Andy837 | lots of input errors again! |
| 01:13.48 | bonz | try apt-cache search gnome |
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| 01:14.06 | bucky | what happens when you just startx |
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| 01:14.19 | bucky | as user not root |
| 01:14.31 | TwistedEmotions | Where is DNS info held again? |
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| 01:14.41 | Andy837 | try another time :) |
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| 01:14.45 | TwistedEmotions | not the interfaces files but the... ? |
| 01:14.49 | thingfish | TwistedEmotions: /etc/resolve.conf |
| 01:14.51 | Greatred | resolv.conf? |
| 01:14.53 | indole | Following dpkg's instructions for setting up ALSA, I've run alsamixer and got the following result: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 01:14.55 | TwistedEmotions | resolv... ty |
| 01:14.56 | TwistedEmotions | ;) |
| 01:14.59 | fken | ok now cdrom works perfectly under 2.6.14-2 |
| 01:15.06 | fken | but i have a big trouble |
| 01:15.15 | fken | nvidia drivers refuse to work |
| 01:15.26 | Greatred | recompile them |
| 01:15.38 | fken | and i am really wondering if one day this computer will work |
| 01:15.49 | fken | greatred i dunno how to recompile them |
| 01:15.53 | Diggity | fken - you could even try an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 01:16.02 | Diggity | maybe you'll be lucky |
| 01:16.04 | Greatred | have you got the nvidia kernel sources? |
| 01:16.05 | fken | so i removed every nvidia package |
| 01:16.17 | fken | and then i reinstall them |
| 01:16.23 | fken | but it never recompile |
| 01:16.27 | fken | so i purged |
| 01:16.37 | fken | but no difference |
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| 01:16.51 | Greatred | tbh i get debian to install its own nvidia sources, but then i install the package from nvidia.com over the top |
| 01:16.59 | fken | whats the apt command to know whats installed ? |
| 01:17.00 | thingfish | what? |
| 01:17.06 | tarzeau | someone good with licensing? i need a standard text that upstream can add to his gnu gpl license to allow linking against openssl |
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| 01:17.31 | bucky | fken dpkg -la |
| 01:17.39 | Greatred | tarzeau, not sure quite what you mean, but maybe the lgpl? |
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| 01:17.59 | beardy | tarzeau: Asking on a mailing list is perhaps better? |
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| 01:18.25 | fken | tuxracer is still installed on my computer ... I am dreaming ! (there is no more tuxracer since a lot of monthes |
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| 01:18.44 | psychonate | Is there anyway to mount an mdf image file, or any way to convert it to an image type I can mount? |
| 01:18.47 | ultraviolet16 | how can I get dpkg to tell me something? |
| 01:18.47 | tarzeau | Greatred: a browser is gnu gpl, and the problem is described here http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=258301 |
| 01:18.59 | ultraviolet16 | like i want to know what it says about xorg |
| 01:19.02 | beardy | psychonate: What is it, which filesystem is on it? |
| 01:19.09 | tarzeau | Greatred: the author of dillo is okay with adding the needed sentence and even do a release of the change |
| 01:19.11 | fken | ive got something called nvidia-kernel ... |
| 01:19.14 | systems | ultraviolet16: /msg dpkg java |
| 01:19.23 | psychonate | beardy, it's an image for a game disc. |
| 01:19.25 | fken | but i cannot see whats at the very end |
| 01:19.27 | systems | for example |
| 01:19.38 | beardy | psychonate: Which system? |
| 01:19.58 | fken | ok |
| 01:20.00 | bucky | ultraviolet16: /msg dpkg xorg |
| 01:20.00 | psychonate | beardy, er, I don't know what you mean? |
| 01:20.12 | Greatred | beats me tbh, i never was much for legalise |
| 01:20.14 | psychonate | it's just a disc image |
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| 01:20.17 | beardy | psychonate: Oh, a warez image, figure it out. Google. |
| 01:20.19 | ultraviolet16 | thanks a lot guys, i got it.. ;) |
| 01:21.57 | fken | dpkg -la sent me some package names that i wanna remove but when i type apt-get remove apt returns there is no package like that installed ... |
| 01:21.57 | dpkg | fken: what are you talking about? |
| 01:22.10 | fken | lol |
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| 01:23.01 | bucky | fken: ii means it's installed |
| 01:23.15 | fken | ok it was rc |
| 01:23.19 | fken | not ii |
| 01:23.50 | fken | how can i recompile my nvidia ? |
| 01:23.53 | bucky | fken: where is gao land? |
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| 01:24.16 | fken | bucky its a cloack of my isp |
| 01:24.26 | fken | *cloak |
| 01:25.06 | muhoo | cdrecord refuses to work with kernel 2.6. i am not/cannot/will not downgrade my server back to 2.4 kernel. what alternatives are there to cdrecord which work with kernel 2.6? |
| 01:25.18 | muhoo | i'm using sarge cdrecord |
| 01:25.19 | mhall | muhoo: that's bullshit |
| 01:25.24 | mhall | muhoo: burn as root it will work |
| 01:25.25 | muhoo | no sir, it says right here. |
| 01:25.31 | muhoo | ok will try |
| 01:25.36 | mhall | muhoo: just trust me i do it and it works |
| 01:25.40 | muhoo | thanks! |
| 01:25.48 | muhoo | btw, this is the error: "There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer." |
| 01:25.54 | caphuso | muhoo: damn, does that mean that the 30 CDs i burnt in the last week are all bad? |
| 01:26.06 | muhoo | it means schily is a solaris bigot, i expect :-) |
| 01:26.40 | bucky | muhoo: the syntax changed about two years ago.. /msg dpkg cdrecord |
| 01:26.41 | muhoo | nope, doesn't work as root either. same error. |
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| 01:26.58 | mhall | muhoo: yes schily is a psycho bastard |
| 01:27.00 | caphuso | muhoo: that's not the error |
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| 01:27.14 | muhoo | dpkg says there is no such user as cdrecord. are you sure it's in the database? |
| 01:27.16 | dpkg | ...but says there is already something else... |
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| 01:27.28 | stew | muhoo: what is the exact command line you are using? |
| 01:27.34 | muhoo | cdrecord -v |
| 01:27.40 | muhoo | my /etc/default/cdrecord has all the settings |
| 01:27.49 | muhoo | dev=2,2,0 |
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| 01:27.57 | DA_ | ~tell da_ about but says there |
| 01:28.12 | bucky | dev=2,2,0 doesn't work anymore with the 2.6 kernel |
| 01:28.19 | muhoo | thanks. |
| 01:28.25 | bucky | muhoo: the syntax changed about two years ago.. /msg dpkg cdrecord |
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| 01:28.35 | muhoo | bucky: dpkg bot says there's no such user as cdrecord |
| 01:28.44 | muhoo | sorry no such nick/channel |
| 01:28.48 | HermanDE | muhoo: it is under cdtools |
| 01:29.02 | bucky | !dpkg tell muhoo about cdrecord |
| 01:29.04 | muhoo | HermanDE: no such nick/channel |
| 01:29.07 | fken | !nvidia |
| 01:29.07 | dpkg | i heard nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 01:29.23 | HermanDE | muhoo: uh.. That should be cdtool |
| 01:29.27 | muhoo | thanks |
| 01:29.27 | carlinhos | i have set up tls on exim4 , how can i make exim4 only acceps tls?, if i telnet port25 and dont use starttls y can send mail. thanks |
| 01:29.29 | fken | !nvidia installer |
| 01:29.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, nvidia installer is a script available from nvidia.com which installs nvidia drivers for you. However, it overwrites files that apt owns, which can get overwritten themselves when X is upgraded, leading to random breakage. Ask me about "nvidia-howto" or just "nvidia" |
| 01:29.41 | fken | argh! |
| 01:29.46 | caphuso | fken: /msg the bots, FFS |
| 01:29.57 | DA_ | lol |
| 01:30.05 | HermanDE | muhoo: dpkg is a bot for the room..... |
| 01:30.19 | fken | ok |
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| 01:30.30 | bucky | !channel |
| 01:30.30 | dpkg | from memory, channel is This refers to the group of resellers that supply most companies with software, hardware, and support. The channel is a force to be reckoned with, and it competes directly against companies like Gateway 2000 and Dell. A channel can also be a content container, like a television channel. You may be watching TV channels on the Internet someday. |
| 01:30.32 | yottzumm | what happened to k3b on testing? |
| 01:30.34 | beardy | channel, please |
| 01:30.39 | beardy | !room |
| 01:30.39 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 01:30.53 | caphuso | oh, damnit |
| 01:31.13 | cheal | yottzumm: it was...removed! |
| 01:31.14 | DA_ | i need dpkg or apt to show me the FIRST install screen (when first installing debian) for the sendmail package, it asked me specific questions i would now like to change my previous answers to, anyone know how i can do that? |
| 01:31.25 | caphuso | DA_: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:31.27 | bbrazil | DA_: dpkg-reconfigure sendmail |
| 01:31.36 | fken | yeeeha |
| 01:31.43 | fken | module assistant failed |
| 01:32.06 | indole | If alsaconf fails, how do I proceed? |
| 01:32.09 | fken | there is no more nvidia-kernel-source in my source |
| 01:32.14 | muhoo | btw that bot entry has an error, this is 404: http://www.fokus.gmd.de/nthp/employees/schilling/cdrecord.html |
| 01:32.43 | ^buf | know what happened to the themedepot.org site? |
| 01:32.49 | HermanDE | DA_: check out man dpkg ..... Look for reconfigure |
| 01:32.53 | DA_ | caphuso, bbrazil: heh i have been having this problem for a long time and trying to figure it out, ive tried dpkg-reconfigure and it doesnt show me the right questions, or at least it did and didn't actually change the configs to what i want |
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| 01:33.20 | muhoo | the actual error is "controller returns zero sized Speed/Dummy information page." |
| 01:33.34 | muhoo | and dev=/dev/sg3:@ doesn't help |
| 01:34.05 | HermanDE | muhoo: It is not called cdrecord any more... It is cdtools. Google or use freshmeat and look for cdtools |
| 01:34.10 | fken | thanks god unstable is more stable than etch ... |
| 01:34.12 | caphuso | muhoo: is that a genuine SCSI burner? |
| 01:34.20 | muhoo | caphuso: actual physical scsi device, yes. |
| 01:34.34 | muhoo | HermanDE: i have an obsolete package then, yes? |
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| 01:34.52 | HermanDE | muhoo: Which version of deb are you running? |
| 01:34.56 | fken | i think amd64 distrib wont become official before a very lot of time |
| 01:35.03 | DA_ | caphuso, bbrazil: my bad im now using exim4 (id like to use sendmail but there are broken dependancies) |
| 01:35.03 | Himmler | :)) |
| 01:35.04 | muhoo | HermanDE: sarge. there is no cdtools |
| 01:35.15 | HermanDE | muhoo: It is called cdtool |
| 01:35.28 | caphuso | HermanDE: what the fuck are you talking about? |
| 01:35.32 | _Guy | who own all this bots |
| 01:35.33 | fken | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.35 | muhoo | HermanDE: " text-based audio CD player and CD-ROM control commands" ? |
| 01:35.48 | anabain | what need I do in order to install ndiswrapper module if I have a compiled kernel (downloaded from kernel.org, installed *not* the debian way)? Can I use module assistant? |
| 01:35.59 | Himmler | fken stfu |
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| 01:36.51 | HermanDE | muhoo: Got my project names skrewed..... |
| 01:36.59 | muhoo | caphuso: i'm lost. why am i getting this error? |
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| 01:37.12 | muhoo | what's frustrating is that all the other cdrecord commands work -atip, -scanbus, etc |
| 01:37.26 | HermanDE | muhoo: CD-Tools is the project name.... CDRecord is a comonent of the CD-Tools set... It is under debian as cdrecord... |
| 01:37.28 | muhoo | it's just burning that fails. and "it always worked before". before i moved to 2.6 |
| 01:37.51 | bonz | ahh so etch is the replacement dist which incorporates the outdateness of stable with the instability of unstable? |
| 01:38.27 | bucky | muhoo: cdrecord -v dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 or whatever -scanbus says or just cdrecord -v dev=/dev/hdc or whatever your device is |
| 01:38.40 | caphuso | bucky: for a scsi device? |
| 01:38.40 | stew | bonz: http://debian.org/releases |
| 01:38.49 | muhoo | i don't think it's a scsi bus problem; i've got several other devices on this bus which work just fine (scanner, dlt drive) |
| 01:38.56 | fken | Himmler: sorry but nazis werent my cup of tea especially goebbels Himmler and Hitler (but dont worry i know there were a very lot of guilty people during this peanut war) |
| 01:39.09 | bucky | i don't have a scsi burner |
| 01:39.19 | muhoo | well i do, and that's apparently why i'm fucked :-/ |
| 01:39.24 | HermanDE | muhoo: What do you get when you do a scanbus? |
| 01:39.25 | caphuso | bucky: what you have is rather unimportant to muhoo, isn't it? |
| 01:39.43 | muhoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:39.47 | bucky | muhoo: what device is it.. /dev/sd? |
| 01:39.51 | bonz | muhoo: lucky you, why complain :) |
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| 01:40.01 | muhoo | /dev/sg3, according to dmesg |
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| 01:40.25 | caphuso | muhoo: what happens if you use dev=X,Y,Z (with those being whatever scanbus returns?" |
| 01:40.30 | bucky | ah.. cdrecord -v dev=/dev/sg3 |
| 01:40.31 | caphuso | s/"/)/ |
| 01:40.33 | muhoo | or /dev/sr0, but i don't expect it wants the cooked interface |
| 01:40.39 | muhoo | bucky: done that several times now :-) |
| 01:40.42 | muhoo | same error |
| 01:41.00 | bucky | muhoo: what is the error.. i must have missed it |
| 01:41.04 | muhoo | caphuso: that's my default. same error |
| 01:41.15 | moshii | what's the best way of creating debs for a new project? I've tried dh_make etc, but it doesn't seem to be what I want. |
| 01:41.18 | Hatter | Hello, I am trying to clone a hard drive using dd. i am cloning the boot partition and the / partition, then the MBR :- dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/hde bs=446 count=1 |
| 01:41.22 | muhoo | bucky: cdrecord: Cannot init drive. |
| 01:41.26 | bonz | best? |
| 01:41.28 | caphuso | muhoo: and "cat /dev/sg0"? |
| 01:41.29 | muhoo | cdrecord: Warning: controller returns zero sized Speed/Dummy information page. |
| 01:41.42 | muhoo | caphuso: it's sg3 |
| 01:41.43 | bonz | moshii: let sumone else do it :) |
| 01:41.52 | caphuso | muhoo: sorry, type. "cat /dev/sg3" |
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| 01:41.57 | Hatter | after the cloning is done, and i try to boot from the new drive it stops after boot saying GRUB_ |
| 01:42.01 | moshii | bonz: my project ... |
| 01:42.16 | Hatter | would someone be able to give me a clue as to what i am missing ? |
| 01:42.17 | bonz | moshii: you said best :) |
| 01:42.18 | caphuso | moshii: /msg dpkg mg |
| 01:42.34 | muhoo | caphuso: blocks |
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| 01:42.43 | caphuso | muhoo: "blocks"? |
| 01:43.14 | muhoo | caphuso: nothing comes out, the command blocks |
| 01:43.24 | HermanDE | muhoo: Is this a x2 cdr? |
| 01:43.30 | muhoo | HermanDE: yes |
| 01:43.42 | moshii | caphuso: been reading that, but it doesn't seem to have much for very debian specific, new projects ... like it wants to create orig/debian version diffs, I just want something that'll build a deb from the checked out cvs |
| 01:44.10 | bucky | cdrecord -v dev=SCSI:2,2,0 |
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| 01:44.58 | muhoo | bucky: "Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. |
| 01:44.59 | caphuso | bucky: that's not even close to valid |
| 01:45.06 | HermanDE | muhoo: And it worked prior to the kernel update? |
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| 01:45.18 | anton | what is a good program for viewing network load? |
| 01:45.21 | caphuso | muhoo: then something's wrong that's not cdrecord |
| 01:45.22 | muhoo | HermanDE: yes indeed. |
| 01:45.32 | bbrazil | anton: bmon, iptraf |
| 01:45.34 | muhoo | bucky: "cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open 'SCSI'. Cannot open SCSI driver." |
| 01:45.49 | indole | I have a via82xx onboard soundcard. How can I set up ALSA on it if alsaconf doesn't detect it? |
| 01:45.53 | caphuso | muhoo: well, that's expected to happen with an invalid device specification |
| 01:45.55 | muhoo | ok, let me stop here, i've got a couple people giving me random suggestions. |
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| 01:46.12 | muhoo | is SCSI:2,2,0 correct? or is that a snipe hunt? |
| 01:46.24 | HermanDE | muhoo: Sounds good.... |
| 01:46.30 | moshii | indole: tried manually modprobe'in the module for it? |
| 01:46.31 | EdLin | muhoo: it's not correct |
| 01:46.40 | muhoo | *sigh* |
| 01:46.51 | muhoo | caphuso: that's what i'd expect. |
| 01:46.51 | bucky | i was guessing.. if i had my other computer i'd look at /usr/share/doc/cdrecord |
| 01:46.53 | EdLin | muhoo: just use the numerical specification told to you by -scanbus |
| 01:47.27 | HermanDE | muhoo: Forget the scsi.... Just use the dev=2,2,0 |
| 01:47.29 | bucky | and maybe you need some other kernel module loaded |
| 01:47.31 | muhoo | EdLin: that's how i started. it sees the drive, gets the atip, refuses to burn. "cdrecord: Cannot init drive. |
| 01:47.47 | muhoo | using dev=2,2,0 |
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| 01:47.58 | muhoo | it also complains about "cdrecord: Warning: controller returns zero sized Speed/Dummy information page." |
| 01:48.00 | indole | moshii: modprobe: Can't locate module snd-via82xx |
| 01:48.09 | caphuso | moshii: ah, you want to build a native package? |
| 01:48.16 | muhoo | caphuso_: any idea what exactly is wrong that isn't cdrecord? |
| 01:48.17 | caphuso | muhoo: does mounting a CD in that drive work? how about playing audio CDs? |
| 01:48.23 | stew | indole: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 01:48.36 | muhoo | caphuso: good question. the cooked interface is /dev/sr0, i'll try and see. |
| 01:48.44 | indole | stew: 2.4.27-1-386 |
| 01:48.46 | moshii | indole: sure it's in your kernel? |
| 01:48.52 | caphuso | muhoo: some hardware or the kernel |
| 01:49.27 | indole | mosii: Of that I'm not sure at all :) It's a pretty stock system, installed about 6 months ago |
| 01:49.34 | moshii | caphuso: yeah, what I have are a set of scripts and a mkinitrd replacement to do some funky booting .. and if I can make a deb out of them it'll make life easier |
| 01:49.47 | caphuso | moshii: dh_make --native |
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| 01:49.51 | stew | indole: what cpu do you have? |
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| 01:50.25 | fken | ok now nvidia returns unknow symbol |
| 01:50.27 | indole | stew: AMD 2600 or so |
| 01:50.40 | calmar | hi all, any recommandations for a replacement build tool like 'make' |
| 01:50.48 | stew | indole: apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-k7 alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-k7 ; and reboot |
| 01:50.55 | fken | nvidia: Unknown symbol register_ioctl32_conversion |
| 01:50.55 | fken | nvidia: Unknown symbol unregister_ioctl32_conversion |
| 01:51.07 | stew | indole: or apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 01:51.09 | doleyb | calmar: if you are java, ant, else scons |
| 01:51.21 | calmar | doleyb: ok, i check scons, thanks |
| 01:52.23 | indole | stew: rebooting now |
| 01:52.42 | calmar | doleyb: written in python obviously. similar to aap then :) I will have a look :) |
| 01:53.24 | moshii | caphuso: cheers, small side question as you seem to know about this stuff; if I put initrd-tools in 'provides' will it work in the same way as an equivs package? |
| 01:54.19 | caphuso | moshii: you need a Conflicts: too, and making sure that nothing breaks if your new packages replace the initrd-tools one |
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| 01:55.13 | moshii | caphuso: ah, I get it. Cheers :) |
| 01:55.15 | fken | could someone help me because i honnestly be bored by beeing forced to spend my entire nights to install debian |
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| 01:55.40 | fken | *be -> am |
| 01:55.42 | amphi | !pal fken |
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| 01:56.08 | moshii | fken: are you trying to build the nvidia module or something? |
| 01:56.27 | fken | amphi: i bought an amd64 with nforce4 because a friend said me "dont wrry there is no problem to use an amd64 with linux... |
| 01:56.34 | fken | moshii yes |
| 01:57.06 | indole | stew: Success! Thanks! |
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| 01:57.21 | amphi | fken: the amd64 debian port is still incomplete I think |
| 01:57.51 | moshii | fken: it builds and then has symbol errors yeah? check your headers, compiler, things like that |
| 01:58.01 | fken | amphi: i got: soud card issue graphic issue compiler issue kernel issues and a lot of my favorite programs werent in amd64 distrib then... I really am bored |
| 01:58.05 | Urthm0ver | would some helpful soul please assist me in getting X11 forwarded properly so that I can run a local Xserver for my @work linux box? |
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| 01:58.12 | doleyb | fken: don't even bother with amd64 code, just run the normal x86 code on and amd64 chip. |
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| 01:58.34 | Urthm0ver | any takers? |
| 01:58.42 | fken | doleyb: i have no idea of what you just said me |
| 01:59.00 | amphi | fken: you could assist the DDs improve the amd64 port ;) |
| 01:59.03 | stew | Urthm0ver: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 01:59.12 | moshii | fken: he means run a 32bit install |
| 01:59.20 | fken | doleyb: installing i386 debian makes me drive into a wall : the setup crashed |
| 01:59.42 | fken | i think i have an compiler issue |
| 01:59.48 | fken | just imagine |
| 02:00.28 | doleyb | Urthm0ver: install debian at home, then type "ssh -X -lworkname workbox.work.com", followed by "xclock" |
| 02:00.28 | fken | i am developing a program but i cant play it because the compiler create symbols error too |
| 02:00.48 | fken | f... gcc 4.0 |
| 02:01.25 | fken | how can i change the comon compiler name ? |
| 02:01.27 | fken | i mean |
| 02:01.33 | muhoo | caphuso: mount fails too. SCSI error : <2 0 2 0> return code = 0x8000002 |
| 02:01.41 | muhoo | end_request: I/O error, dev sr0, sector 68 |
| 02:01.46 | doleyb | fken: export CC=gcc-2.95;make clean;make |
| 02:01.47 | fken | i want that gcc compile a file with gcc 3.4 |
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| 02:02.03 | caphuso | muhoo: i/o error? probably damaged hardware |
| 02:02.36 | fken | doleybmakeclean and make didnt works |
| 02:03.01 | fken | doleyb: it try to look for targets |
| 02:03.02 | liable | doesn't work |
| 02:03.10 | liable | doh.. |
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| 02:03.49 | doleyb | fken: that's just an example, replace with whatever you use to build |
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| 02:05.04 | fken | doleyb: ok but it changed nothing for my module assistant |
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| 02:06.39 | fken | noone know whats going wrong with my nvidia ? |
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| 02:08.53 | doleyb | fken: i know- you're using deb64, when you shouldn't be. Unless you are already good with debian, don't use it. |
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| 02:09.59 | doleyb | fken: and, why do you even want an nvidia module? |
| 02:10.11 | stew | fken: if you are compiling a module for your kernel you must use the same compiler that cat /proc/version reports |
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| 02:11.09 | fken | gcc4.0.3 20051023 |
| 02:11.20 | char|ie | Nokia, is making me angry |
| 02:11.23 | char|ie | soo angry |
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| 02:11.48 | fken | doleyb : i dont think i am bad with debian... But the true problem is the following : |
| 02:11.58 | pedro420 | how do I get dpkg to rebuild its database? It only lists dpkg as being installed though I have several hundred packages installed |
| 02:12.20 | fken | my computer crash at the installation of Suse Mdk ubuntu it crash with debian 32bits |
| 02:12.32 | char|ie | anyone else buy a nokia 770? |
| 02:12.33 | fken | and it only works with debian 64 |
| 02:12.39 | liable | pedro420: so, what did you do? |
| 02:13.16 | pedro420 | liable: I believe I went too far with D-I as a rescue disk. I had to stop after it probed IDE devices then drop into console and chroot. |
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| 02:14.16 | fken | i think that my computer would work with gentoo... but here i must admit i am really not good enough |
| 02:14.25 | liable | pedro420: but how did you delete the status file? what happened to need the rescue disk? |
| 02:14.31 | doleyb | fken: send your computer back before the 30 days are up. |
| 02:14.54 | fken | doleyb: finally until now, i had some very very very strange issues |
| 02:15.00 | fken | doleyb 30 days ? |
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| 02:15.11 | pedro420 | pedro420: changed computers and had a lilo 07 error, the installer wanted to run base install and obviously started to |
| 02:15.12 | fken | warranty matter ? |
| 02:15.16 | nimak | hello |
| 02:15.19 | pedro420 | liable: |
| 02:15.27 | fken | ive got my computer since august |
| 02:15.53 | liable | pedro420: look in /var/lib/dpkg for a status-old file |
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| 02:16.27 | muhoo | caphuso: i hope not. |
| 02:16.32 | pedro420 | liable: mv status-old status? |
| 02:16.41 | liable | yeah |
| 02:16.42 | fken | my true problem is that amd64 distrib doesnt realy respect debian ideology : one example: i really find that etch looks more unstable than unstable |
| 02:16.43 | liable | cp |
| 02:16.59 | fken | its amazing! |
| 02:17.21 | liable | looks more unstable? |
| 02:17.22 | caphuso | fken: it has a couple of missing packages and broken dependancies, nothing serious |
| 02:18.04 | fken | caphuso: you are right but i never heard before that its normal that unstable has less broken dependancies than testing release |
| 02:18.21 | caphuso | fken: broken dependancies are only a minor problem on unstable |
| 02:18.24 | fken | its a reversing world |
| 02:18.29 | caphuso | compared to the really broken stuff |
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| 02:19.59 | fken | and moreover some people camps on their position : "stay on stable release!" yes! why not! if only something works on stable release with my computer! |
| 02:21.07 | fken | but i recognize i have less issues than before : now only the graphic driver is broken... |
| 02:21.10 | caphuso | what's wrong with the amd64 port of sarge? |
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| 02:22.01 | fken | doesnt support my sound card for example |
| 02:22.16 | caphuso | easily fixed with a kernel upgrade |
| 02:22.20 | caphuso | any actual problems? |
| 02:22.36 | fken | however its really irritating to see that a big problem i had (the nvidia driver) just come back with another "symbol issue" |
| 02:23.09 | fken | caphuso : there is no 2.6.14 kernel on stable |
| 02:23.12 | fken | and i need it |
| 02:23.20 | caphuso | fken: there's one www.kernel.org |
| 02:23.24 | doleyb | fken: Why do you want the nvidia driver? |
| 02:23.31 | liable | fken: have you been to #debian-amd64? |
| 02:23.45 | shorty | bah! broken dependancies are half the fun of unstable! |
| 02:23.48 | fatal_ | there's also backports of newer versions (atleast 2.6.12) by the kernel team. |
| 02:23.57 | fken | doleyb: i would like to program and i need openGL |
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| 02:24.32 | fken | liable: yes but there is a few people there |
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| 02:25.02 | fken | caphuso: i failled trying to compile manually a kernel... |
| 02:25.17 | ultraviolet16 | is there an equivalent command for pcmcia slots like lspci? |
| 02:25.20 | muhoo | well that sucks. but i guess i have an excuse now to buy a DVD-ROM burner |
| 02:25.40 | liable | ultraviolet16: whats dmesg say? |
| 02:25.40 | moshii | ultraviolet16: um lspci |
| 02:26.07 | muhoo | that's two dead scsi devices. maybe i fried these devices when i switched from one machine to another |
| 02:26.08 | ultraviolet16 | liable: i remove it and then reinstall it but dmesg says nothing |
| 02:26.20 | muhoo | dds2 tape drive: dead. cdrom burner: dead. |
| 02:26.29 | muhoo | both with scsi i/o errors to, incidentally. |
| 02:26.29 | ultraviolet16 | it's a dell wifi card |
| 02:26.39 | liable | ultraviolet16: are there modules loaded for the controller thing.. |
| 02:26.40 | muhoo | caphuso: thanks. i sense a pattern. i think you're right on. |
| 02:26.41 | ultraviolet16 | it has two lights. power and link |
| 02:26.45 | caphuso | muhoo: then it might be the controller or the cable |
| 02:26.52 | ultraviolet16 | liable: i'm not sure I know what your talking about |
| 02:26.57 | ultraviolet16 | the power light isn't even on |
| 02:26.57 | moshii | muhoo: just don't buy cheap discs, cheap DVD-/+R are a pain in the arse |
| 02:27.14 | muhoo | caphuso: the controller is just fine, there are two other devices on this scsi controller which work just fine |
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| 02:27.32 | liable | ultraviolet16: yenta-socket and pcmcia-core.. |
| 02:27.56 | muhoo | are dvd - or + more reliable? |
| 02:28.10 | caphuso | muhoo: the same |
| 02:28.25 | liable | hmm, cplay plays quieter than mplayer.. |
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| 02:28.26 | ultraviolet16 | liable: I don't know, and I don't think so |
| 02:28.29 | moshii | muhoo: you can do multisession-like stuff with + |
| 02:28.30 | ultraviolet16 | how do I enable them? |
| 02:28.41 | muhoo | i doubt it's the cable too. same cables still in use. |
| 02:28.50 | liable | ultraviolet16: you have never heard of lsmod and modprobe? |
| 02:28.53 | fken | ok at least it burn my dvd |
| 02:28.53 | andy_ | just wondering if anyone has any sugestions for a good firewall configuration tool? I've used and like shorewall, but I believe it loads far more cruft than is needed, if allows tried guarddog and like it ok |
| 02:29.13 | andy_ | anyone have an sugestions for iptables config tools I should try? |
| 02:29.16 | muhoo | maybe i'll get a USB2.0 dvd burner. do such beasts exist? any work well with linux? |
| 02:29.30 | ultraviolet16 | liable: ok yeah I've heard of lsmod, just not sure what modules were. I just ran ram lsmod which says modules are on or off in the linux kernel.. so I have a better idea. |
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| 02:29.52 | moshii | muhoo: I think my mates uses an IDE drive in a USB caddy with redhat |
| 02:29.56 | imnes | Is there a project page with information about the APT library? |
| 02:30.12 | liable | andy_: i like shorewall personally, but its exactly that, a personal choice.. use guarddog if you like it. |
| 02:30.27 | andy_ | don't really like guarddog either |
| 02:30.58 | liable | firestarter, firehol or try writing your own iptables rules. |
| 02:31.13 | andy_ | actually my favorite is the one in suse's yast, anything like that available for debian? |
| 02:31.54 | moshii | andy_: just write a rule to deny everything, and then add rules for anything you want to let in |
| 02:32.17 | andy_ | moshii: i've written my own scripts before, i'd prefer not too do it anymore |
| 02:32.30 | Tortel | Is there a command to clear cache useage? |
| 02:32.32 | ultraviolet16 | liable: ok, I looked in modprobe and yenta socket and pcmcia-core is being used |
| 02:32.34 | andy_ | my latest kick in life is to let package maintainers make my life as easy as possible |
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| 02:33.04 | liable | ultraviolet16: dunno then. maybe faulty card or socket? checked bios? |
| 02:33.14 | ultraviolet16 | the card works in windows |
| 02:33.22 | Tortel | !windows |
| 02:33.23 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
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| 02:33.56 | liable | ultraviolet16: strange dmesg doesnt say anything at all about it. is there actually a driver for the card? |
| 02:34.14 | ultraviolet16 | i don't know if there is, i've never done this before. |
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| 02:34.18 | Siafu | to upgrade to unstable I just have to replace any instance of "stable" with "sid" in sources.list, right? |
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| 02:34.28 | muhoo | dpkg: heh |
| 02:34.28 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
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| 02:34.33 | ultraviolet16 | is there a way to check.. i mean.. i'm in the dark dealing with pcmcia |
| 02:34.35 | zdennis | hey all, i am trying to install debian 3.1r0a powerpc on my mac g3 |
| 02:34.41 | zdennis | it throws an error during disk partitioning |
| 02:34.45 | muhoo | !dpkg++ |
| 02:34.53 | muhoo | !botsnack |
| 02:35.06 | Siafu | how do I upgrade to unstable? |
| 02:35.16 | liable | ultraviolet16: google the card and linux, and find a driver for it. |
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| 02:35.24 | ultraviolet16 | hmm ok |
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| 02:35.39 | zdennis | I have never installed debian (linux in general either) on a mac |
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| 02:35.45 | muhoo | Siafu: change your /etc/apt/sources.list to read "unstable", then apt-get dist-upgrade, IIRC |
| 02:35.54 | zdennis | I didn't know if there was something special i needed to do, or if i should check my hard drive for errors |
| 02:36.02 | liable | !ifytays Siafu |
| 02:36.03 | Siafu | muhoo: so replace all instances of stable with unstable? |
| 02:36.06 | ultraviolet16 | ah ha! it dmesg said something |
| 02:36.17 | muhoo | Siafu: that's what i did. i'm sure it's documented somewhere. |
| 02:36.25 | ultraviolet16 | liable: PCMCIA: socket ce521c2c: *** DANGER *** unable to remove socket power |
| 02:36.34 | ultraviolet16 | said that once i removed it |
| 02:36.35 | amphi | zdennis: FWIW, I recently installed 3.1 on an ibook without any problems |
| 02:36.50 | amphi | zdennis: it wasn't dual boot, dunno if that has issues |
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| 02:37.19 | zdennis | amphi, mine is not dual boot either. I am getting rid of OSX. |
| 02:37.27 | zdennis | amphi, i will suspect that it's probably my hard drive |
| 02:37.51 | zdennis | amphi, if your's installed fine |
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| 02:39.19 | Vantage__ | any idea why after switching to udev a usb ptp camera no longer shows up in usbview? all other devices (scanner, printer) show up, but not the camera |
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| 02:40.01 | amphi | zdennis: you could use the ppc sysresccd.org iso to run smartctl diags on the disk |
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| 02:40.15 | liable | cause udev really like to break shit? |
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| 02:40.34 | tlhiv | hi folks |
| 02:40.36 | Vantage__ | so i'm noticing... |
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| 02:40.49 | Vantage__ | but i've almost got everything switched over... it's just this last thing... |
| 02:41.02 | zdennis | amphi, thx for the link, i will give that shot |
| 02:41.12 | tlhiv | can anyone tell me what all the hype is over Ubuntu ... i come here (instead of #ubuntu) to try to get a more unbiased opinion |
| 02:41.23 | liable | hah |
| 02:41.38 | liable | yes you will get an unbiased opinion here... |
| 02:41.46 | tlhiv | :-) |
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| 02:42.11 | tlhiv | actually i don't mind getting an opinion that leans toward ubuntu ... because i'm a Gentoo user |
| 02:42.19 | tlhiv | i want to hear about the good qualities |
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| 02:42.41 | ThomasThumb | Reading Package Lists... Error! |
| 02:42.41 | ThomasThumb | ekix: Dynamic MMap ran out of room |
| 02:42.41 | ThomasThumb | ekix: Error occured while processing e2fsprogs (NewVersion2) |
| 02:42.41 | ThomasThumb | ekix: Problem with MergeList /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 02:42.41 | ThomasThumb | ekix: The package lists or status file could not be parsed or opened. |
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| 02:42.45 | EdLin | tlhiv: if you love GNOME, ubuntu is useful. Otherwise not. |
| 02:42.51 | _Yeti | 'lo folks |
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| 02:43.04 | liable | tlhiv: most people think its ok. a fair bit of shit just works out of the box. |
| 02:43.05 | tlhiv | EdLin: i do love Gnome ... and i think Gentoo does a great job at it |
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| 02:43.13 | gutti- | Hi, I'm upgrading from Sarge to Sid and I get this error: |
| 02:43.27 | EdLin | tlhiv: at any rate, both Ubuntu and Gentoo are off-topic here. |
| 02:43.28 | liable | ThomasThumb: /topic. dont paste here |
| 02:43.39 | liable | !tell ThomasThumb about mmap |
| 02:43.42 | tlhiv | EdLin: true |
| 02:43.47 | gutti- | Preparing to replace udev 0.056-3 (using .../archives/udev_0.074-3_i386.deb) ... |
| 02:43.47 | gutti- | ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/udev/rules.d/z55_hotplug.rules' to `../hotplug.rules': File exists |
| 02:43.47 | gutti- | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.074-3_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 02:43.47 | gutti- | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:43.47 | gutti- | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 02:43.56 | liable | fucks sake. |
| 02:44.09 | liable | gutti-: DONT PASTE HERE |
| 02:44.15 | EdLin | liable: it's not even Sunday in the US yet. |
| 02:44.16 | gutti- | Excuse me for flood. :) |
| 02:44.31 | gutti- | I need help, 'cause I'm office and I have to upgrade the machine.. |
| 02:44.32 | liable | EdLin: god help us :) |
| 02:44.45 | ultraviolet16 | liable: ok yeah I found something on google, I do need a driver. |
| 02:44.50 | gutti- | ln: creating symbolic link `/etc/udev/rules.d/z55_hotplug.rules' to `../hotplug.rules': File exists |
| 02:44.51 | EdLin | liable: and I say that as a citizen of the USA. ;-) |
| 02:45.03 | ThomasThumb | Thank you. |
| 02:45.12 | liable | EdLin: sunday lunch here :) |
| 02:45.18 | gutti- | I searched the file but I cannot find it. :( I tryed to delete the directory but it doesn't want work. :( |
| 02:45.42 | EdLin | liable: lunch? Where are you, Asia? |
| 02:45.44 | liable | gutti-: have you checked the bts for udev? |
| 02:45.49 | liable | EdLin: .au |
| 02:45.53 | gutti- | liable, what's bts? |
| 02:46.01 | liable | !bts |
| 02:46.01 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 02:46.07 | EdLin | liable: ah. Forgot about that possiblity |
| 02:46.23 | koshnaranek | heh /msg dpkg install debian < That's all I had to do?!?!?!?! |
| 02:46.33 | liable | hah, everyone forgets about .au :) |
| 02:46.38 | gutti- | liable, well, it's ok but I have to solve the problem now. :) |
| 02:46.51 | gutti- | liable, I have half distribution upgraded and the other half no. :( |
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| 02:47.05 | liable | gutti-: yes, and you may well, if you check the bts and find an answer to your problem.. |
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| 02:47.21 | koshnaranek | gutti-: that's probably the case more often than not |
| 02:47.29 | gutti- | ok :) |
| 02:47.41 | koshnaranek | no mplayer in sarge pretty much tells the story |
| 02:47.50 | TNKS | Hi. Some localiation configuration is causing me a bunch of error messages. Maybe someone here has some advice? |
| 02:47.51 | koshnaranek | OR testing |
| 02:48.00 | liable | tells what story? |
| 02:48.03 | EdLin | !tell koshnaranek about marillat |
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| 02:48.29 | liable | !tell koshnaranek about mplayer |
| 02:48.36 | koshnaranek | for some reason im not getting queries |
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| 02:49.06 | koshnaranek | this install is testing/unstable |
| 02:49.06 | EdLin | koshnaranek: have you identified yourself with nickserv? |
| 02:49.14 | koshnaranek | i think so |
| 02:49.49 | TNKS | Here's an example of the localication errors I'm seeing: http://pastebin.ca/29455 |
| 02:49.56 | koshnaranek | did so for sure, now |
| 02:50.01 | liable | koshnaranek: consult the freenode faq. |
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| 02:50.12 | koshnaranek | im registered |
| 02:50.16 | ThomasThumb | ekix: Syntax error /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/70debconf:8: Extra junk at end of file |
| 02:50.48 | leoPetr | Hello. I have updated my kernel from 2.6.7 to 2.6.14. The laptop's nipple still works, but the external mouse does not. Any ideas?:) |
| 02:50.59 | ThomasThumb | /etc/apt/apt.conf I don't have this file |
| 02:51.00 | gutti- | liable, I installed hotplug, now the upgrade seems to go. :) |
| 02:51.04 | koshnaranek | oh, duh. |
| 02:51.12 | koshnaranek | it's going to the server buffer |
| 02:51.38 | liable | gutti-: err, udev is supposed to replace hotplug.. but whatever, as long as it works. :) |
| 02:51.49 | gutti- | ;) |
| 02:51.54 | Gnea | woohoo! |
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| 02:52.09 | Gnea | debian.org is back |
| 02:52.21 | Gnea | !apt |
| 02:52.21 | dpkg | somebody said apt was the Advanced Package Tool, an advanced frontend for dpkg and rpm (depending on your system). For Debian it's a frontend for dpkg. Apt kicks ass. Unless you referring to Sun's 'Annotation Processing Tool', which ... does not 'kick ass.' |
| 02:52.34 | Gnea | ok, it's beer o'clock. |
| 02:52.40 | Gnea | !beer #debian |
| 02:52.40 | liable | hah |
| 02:52.58 | koshnaranek | i tried that repo, but my libstdc++ was too old |
| 02:53.19 | krassy1809 | how i can make a debian package from source ? |
| 02:53.29 | muhoo | ipa> |
| 02:53.31 | muhoo | !ipa |
| 02:53.32 | dpkg | somebody said ipa was International Phoenetic Alphabet |
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| 02:53.42 | ThomasThumb | I think I am still using Woody here. |
| 02:53.45 | muhoo | 90 minute international phonetic alphabet? |
| 02:54.10 | EdLin | !tell ThomasThumb about woody->sarge |
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| 02:54.23 | koshnaranek | this close to the freeze, using some unstable packages is pretty safe, i'd imagine |
| 02:54.35 | ThomasThumb | I just want apt-get to work. |
| 02:54.42 | EdLin | koshnaranek: the freeze ended months aggo |
| 02:54.43 | Gnea | krassy1809: http://www.us.debian.org/devel/ |
| 02:54.49 | Gnea | krassy1809: a lot of good documentation there |
| 02:54.50 | liable | krassy1809: apt-build |
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| 02:55.18 | koshnaranek | im not too worried about it |
| 02:55.19 | liable | oh, /me misread that question.. |
| 02:55.27 | ThomasThumb | ekix: Error occured while processing e2fsprogs (NewVersion2) What does this mean? |
| 02:55.54 | ThomasThumb | SHould I post my error to flood? |
| 02:55.54 | EdLin | koshnaranek: if you know that little about the news regarding unstable, like that Sarge was released months ago, you shouldn't be running it. |
| 02:56.00 | liable | !e2fsprogs |
| 02:56.00 | dpkg | hmm... e2fsprogs is http://bugs.debian.org/325834 |
| 02:56.21 | Gnea | !dbug 325834 |
| 02:56.27 | koshnaranek | this machine in for my own use, if something breaks, i'm not gonna cry about it, the paritioning will allow me to be back where i was in a couple hours at most, if things go really, really bad |
| 02:56.31 | Gnea | !dbugs 325834 |
| 02:56.34 | dpkg | #325834:N[e2fsprogs] apt-get install e2fsprogs get a Conflicts Pre-Depends loop error; Wed, 31 Aug 2005 08:48:02 UTC |
| 02:56.58 | EdLin | koshnaranek: then why are you complaining about it here? |
| 02:57.06 | liable | that factoid used to be way more descriptive. |
| 02:57.28 | koshnaranek | whoa, miscue, i was state-ing that most folks probably use a mix |
| 02:57.30 | sylchar | hi, i'm looking for a P2P client that works with linux? |
| 02:57.39 | Gnea | !p2p |
| 02:57.39 | dpkg | [p2p] peer to peer. Power to the People |
| 02:58.03 | Brian_L | :) |
| 02:58.07 | EdLin | sylchar: gift is nice |
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| 02:58.26 | ThomasThumb | I think I have different error. |
| 02:58.52 | sylchar | !p2p |
| 02:58.52 | dpkg | methinks p2p is peer to peer. Power to the People |
| 02:58.52 | sylchar | ? |
| 02:58.54 | koshnaranek | you read me wrong, pal, and i dont depress about such things on irc |
| 02:59.12 | ThomasThumb | I posted to #flood. Someone please help. |
| 02:59.35 | liable | ThomasThumb: dpkg told you about mmap |
| 02:59.37 | EdLin | koshnaranek: still, the fact remains, if you don't even know that Sarge was released, you shouldn't be running unstable. |
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| 02:59.44 | ThomasThumb | That didnt work |
| 02:59.54 | liable | ThomasThumb: increase it more then. |
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| 03:00.43 | koshnaranek | suspect states he had no clue that it was months ago |
| 03:01.20 | ThomasThumb | I increased the hell out of it. |
| 03:01.24 | ThomasThumb | I still get an error. |
| 03:01.35 | ThomasThumb | I will post to flood. |
| 03:01.39 | EdLin | koshnaranek: which means you didn't install unstable to help with the release process, you installed it for something like percieved bit-rot. |
| 03:01.50 | gutti- | house:/etc/udev/rules.d# file z20_persistent.rules |
| 03:01.50 | gutti- | z20_persistent.rules: broken symbolic link to `../persistent.rules' |
| 03:01.51 | gutti- | grrr |
| 03:02.14 | koshnaranek | actually, it's a long story... |
| 03:02.18 | EdLin | koshnaranek: and continue to whine that it doesn't have patent-breaking packages in main |
| 03:02.53 | ThomasThumb | I just posted apt.conf and error to flood. |
| 03:02.53 | doleyb | EdLin: almost definately it does have patent-breaking packages |
| 03:03.19 | EdLin | doleyb: yes, but it's good to try to reduce that in some cases. |
| 03:03.29 | koshnaranek | edlin |
| 03:03.31 | ThomasThumb | Is my Debian broken? |
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| 03:03.42 | amphi | ThomasThumb: no |
| 03:03.44 | EdLin | doleyb: like packages that require Microsoft DLLs are just asking for trouble. |
| 03:03.48 | koshnaranek | are you, like, a debian 'heavy hitter'? |
| 03:03.50 | liable | ThomasThumb: try an update again, something aint right there. |
| 03:04.06 | ThomasThumb | DId you see the post in flood? |
| 03:04.17 | EdLin | koshnaranek: no, I'm just someone who gets annoyed by whining |
| 03:04.20 | liable | yes |
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| 03:04.42 | ThomasThumb | I get same thing |
| 03:04.43 | amphi | !tell ThomasThumb about dynamic-mmap |
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| 03:05.03 | liable | ThomasThumb: repost your apt.conf |
| 03:05.17 | liable | ThomasThumb: i think you made a typo |
| 03:05.27 | koshnaranek | well, that much is obvious, what im asking is, do you take on alot of responsibility for promoting the 'debian way' because of the gratitude you feel for what these coders have given us? for free? in a nice box? with a bow? |
| 03:06.05 | ThomasThumb | reposted |
| 03:06.18 | koshnaranek | because if that's the case, i'd say, your right, but if its not... |
| 03:06.22 | liable | ThomasThumb: APT not PT |
| 03:06.39 | koshnaranek | lighten up before you have a stroke, chief |
| 03:06.48 | ThomasThumb | OK thanks let me try that. |
| 03:07.02 | EdLin | koshnaranek: I'm not here to please people who yell at the channel because Debian doesn't have mplayer in main. |
| 03:07.04 | liable | koshnaranek: who the hell are you talking to? |
| 03:07.23 | ThomasThumb | SUCCESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:07.26 | koshnaranek | edlin, for reading me the riot act about using unstable |
| 03:07.32 | amphi | ThomasThumb: ;) |
| 03:07.33 | ThomasThumb | THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 03:07.40 | Guerin | koshnaranek: stop being a twat, svp |
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| 03:07.55 | CMT978 | Question CMT978 1132456070296: a |
| 03:07.55 | koshnaranek | what is an svp? |
| 03:08.01 | CMT978 | Answer CMT978 1132456070296: b |
| 03:08.45 | liable | CMT978: put the crack pipe down and step away from the keyboard. :P |
| 03:08.50 | debiannewbie | I'm reading the man page of mount. There is a option for ext2 "-nobh" that should means "Do not attach buffer_heads to file pagecache". Is there anybody who knows what that means? |
| 03:09.06 | koshnaranek | this hostility is weird |
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| 03:10.18 | EdLin | koshnaranek: trying to get mplayer in main by whining about it on #debian is weirder |
| 03:10.21 | roral | !win ThomasThumb |
| 03:10.22 | dpkg | Congratulations, ThomasThumb! You have won the US presidency! |
| 03:11.18 | koshnaranek | superman, where are you now? |
| 03:12.05 | ThomasThumb | ANyone know anything about ksegs? |
| 03:12.43 | ThomasThumb | Is that the right one for geometry? |
| 03:13.50 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: just go with the defaults, they should work. |
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| 03:14.13 | debiannewbie | sorry, is there anybody who knows what exactly "Do not attach buffer_heads to file pagecache" means (man mount ext2 -o nobh)? |
| 03:14.51 | gutti- | liable, can I hold the upgrade of udev? |
| 03:15.15 | liable | gutti-: sure |
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| 03:15.31 | liable | gutti-: i have for the last three months :) |
| 03:15.33 | gutti- | liable, can you help me? |
| 03:15.38 | ThomasThumb | Crap. I have another problem. I will post to flood. |
| 03:15.52 | liable | gutti-: do what? put it on hold? |
| 03:16.00 | gutti- | yes |
| 03:16.03 | liable | !hold |
| 03:16.03 | dpkg | from memory, hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
| 03:16.15 | ThomasThumb | I think I may need to do a dist-upgrade?????? |
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| 03:17.02 | liable | ThomasThumb: are you upgrading from woody to etch or something? |
| 03:17.18 | ThomasThumb | I am just trying to install kseg. |
| 03:17.38 | ThomasThumb | I think I still have woody here |
| 03:17.43 | ThomasThumb | Maybe even potato. |
| 03:17.48 | liable | ... |
| 03:18.40 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 03:19.05 | ThomasThumb | 3.1 |
| 03:19.14 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: then that should be Sarge |
| 03:19.22 | liable | uname -r |
| 03:19.41 | ThomasThumb | 2.4.22 |
| 03:19.58 | ThomasThumb | I rolled my own kernel |
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| 03:20.26 | ThomasThumb | WHich I wish I didnt do. |
| 03:20.42 | pe-de-moleque | Is it possible to generate /etc/fstab on every boot using only debian packages? |
| 03:20.47 | liable | ThomasThumb: paste your sources list to a paster. |
| 03:22.31 | ThomasThumb | Pasted to flood |
| 03:23.20 | ThomasThumb | Maybe I need to reboot. |
| 03:23.45 | ThomasThumb | This computer hasnt seen an upgrade in a while. |
| 03:24.34 | amphi | ThomasThumb: reboot? why? |
| 03:24.44 | liable | ThomasThumb: see what a dist-upgrade does. |
| 03:25.00 | ThomasThumb | Is that dangerous? |
| 03:25.39 | amphi | liable: do you want a 2.4 kernel? |
| 03:25.53 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: rebooting isn't necessary in Linux unless you're upgrading the kernel |
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| 03:26.18 | ThomasThumb | OK I am about to do dist-upgrade. |
| 03:26.43 | liable | amphi: no thanks. |
| 03:26.56 | zinx | don't dist-upgrade unless you're up-to-date on your current distro, and only dist-upgrade to the next higher release |
| 03:27.19 | ThomasThumb | I just did upgrade. |
| 03:27.25 | amphi | liable: heh, sorry, that was meant for ThomasThumb - brain fart |
| 03:27.31 | liable | :) |
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| 03:28.34 | ThomasThumb | I am about to run the command apt-get dist-upgrade. It wants to upgrade 288 packages???? |
| 03:28.57 | zinx | don't dist-upgrade unless you know what you're doing :/ |
| 03:28.58 | ultraviolet16 | liable: i got my wireless card working =) |
| 03:29.08 | ThomasThumb | I dont know what I am doing. |
| 03:29.09 | exalted | Hi. Is there any resource where to i can find in which cd is a particular package? |
| 03:29.12 | liable | ultraviolet16: coll :) |
| 03:29.14 | amphi | ultraviolet16: ipw2200.sf.net? |
| 03:29.20 | zinx | then use 'upgrade' instead of 'dist-upgrade' |
| 03:29.21 | liable | cool.. |
| 03:29.34 | ThomasThumb | But that doesnt give me kseg. |
| 03:29.36 | bonz | yup try with a -d then you can upgrade at your liesure after retrieving all 288 |
| 03:29.55 | zinx | ThomasThumb: i *really* hope you're not trying to mix distributions |
| 03:30.08 | zinx | and/or releases, depending on what you want to call them |
| 03:30.08 | ultraviolet16 | amphi: actually no, i'll give the link now |
| 03:30.22 | amphi | ultraviolet16: what version of the driver is it? |
| 03:30.25 | liable | zinx: his sources list looks ok (all sarge) |
| 03:30.39 | ultraviolet16 | http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=373096&highlight=dell+1350 |
| 03:30.42 | zinx | liable: strange that he wouldn't be able to get something without doing dist-upgrade, then |
| 03:30.43 | ThomasThumb | I Hope so too. |
| 03:30.56 | liable | ThomasThumb: oh, btw you can comment the non-us line too in your sources list. |
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| 03:31.46 | ThomasThumb | I hit the button. The missles have left the silo. |
| 03:31.53 | liable | zinx: i am pretty sure he *is* upgrading from woody. |
| 03:32.00 | ultraviolet16 | amphi: this one: http://support.dell.com/support/downloads/type.aspx?c=us&cs=&l=en&s=gen&SystemID=INS_PNT_P4_8500&os=WW1&osl=en&deviceid=6482 |
| 03:35.15 | amphi | ultraviolet16: you're usig ndiswrapper? why, when there's a working native driver? |
| 03:35.53 | ultraviolet16 | actually i haven't found the native working driver |
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| 03:35.59 | amphi | ultraviolet16: or is it not the intel wifi card? |
| 03:36.13 | ultraviolet16 | it's not the intel wifi card.. it's a dell card |
| 03:36.29 | ultraviolet16 | the dell wireless 1350 |
| 03:36.38 | amphi | ultraviolet16: ok - you said centrino before, which AFAIK is pentium m + intel wifi |
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| 03:37.47 | koshnaranek | http://membres.lycos.fr/sethnakht/ |
| 03:38.04 | diana | I have a geforce 6800 and I'm using debian unstable...anyone know a website with binary kernel modules for 2.6.14-2-386? |
| 03:38.12 | ultraviolet16 | ok sorry, i meant celeron M. remembered way after i said centrino |
| 03:38.38 | amphi | ultraviolet16: ah... that url is no use to you then |
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| 03:39.24 | amphi | ultraviolet16: what is it, a rebadged broadcom? |
| 03:39.40 | punsad | anyone run debian on a dell laptop? Wondering how good the support is |
| 03:39.51 | liable | !laptop |
| 03:39.51 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 03:41.49 | ultraviolet16 | amphi: i would be lying if I would say anything. All i know is that I got my wireless card and xorg working today, I'm happy |
| 03:42.28 | ultraviolet16 | liable: thanks for that dpkg message, I'm going to read in on that in the future when I try to get my power management going right |
| 03:42.35 | amphi | ultraviolet16: cool - what model is your laptop, if I may ask? |
| 03:42.56 | liable | ultraviolet16: np. |
| 03:42.59 | ultraviolet16 | amphi: it's a dell inspiron 1200 |
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| 03:47.50 | TiMiDo | i wonder, why my fonts, and windows are so damn big, |
| 03:48.10 | arafangion | How do I list the packages that I have installed from stable? |
| 03:48.14 | amphi | TiMiDo: X dpi? |
| 03:48.19 | ThomasThumb | I did a df and my disk is 98% used so I control-c the dist-upgrade |
| 03:48.23 | TiMiDo | arafangion dpkg -i or man dpkg |
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| 03:48.39 | arafangion | TiMiDo: That will list *all* packages. I only want those part of stable. |
| 03:48.45 | ThomasThumb | What happens if an upgrade goes over the disk space? |
| 03:49.08 | nvz | ThomasThumb: you cant go over |
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| 03:49.27 | arafangion | nvz: He means what happens if the upgrade process is aborted due to lack of disc space. |
| 03:49.59 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: Don't go over :) |
| 03:50.05 | somePriest | Hi. I'm hoping to take AVi files and JPG files and put them onto a DVD that will play in a normal home theatre system. The JPGs as slide shows perhaps, I haven't decided. Is this easily done with dvdauthor? My expeirence of reading a few tutorials is that it requires a great deal of knowledge about the input files, DVD structures, etc. |
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| 03:50.14 | ThomasThumb | I have some big files I need to move. |
| 03:50.35 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: So, move them. |
| 03:51.11 | ThomasThumb | I think it is time to buy a new computer |
| 03:51.23 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: Or just a new HDD. |
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| 03:51.44 | aubergine | Dual Athlon Systems rock |
| 03:53.04 | ThomasThumb | It is safer to do a cp then cmp than a mv? |
| 03:53.33 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: Obviously. |
| 03:53.56 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: Then again, one might just make a hardlink, then remove the original hardlink ;) |
| 03:54.25 | ThomasThumb | hardlink makes two copies of file? |
| 03:54.29 | aubergine | wahts a hardlink?! xD |
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| 03:54.54 | aubergine | thomas, yes |
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| 03:55.12 | arafangion | aubergine: man ln |
| 03:55.22 | TheCount | *yawn* |
| 03:55.34 | ThomasThumb | I backed up my old computer onto this one. Now I have to move the files. |
| 03:55.35 | aubergine | just joking... |
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| 03:58.03 | somePriest | Or not as the case may be. |
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| 03:58.35 | mousex | hi, guys |
| 03:58.52 | aubergine | hiho |
| 03:59.00 | mousex | aubergine, hi |
| 03:59.09 | ThomasThumb | What is the best way to back up an old computer? |
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| 03:59.24 | mousex | ThomasThumb, tar |
| 03:59.38 | mousex | tar -cvfz / |
| 03:59.56 | ThomasThumb | What about rsync? |
| 04:00.21 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: rsync can work well too. |
| 04:00.26 | ThomasThumb | rcp? |
| 04:00.35 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: No. |
| 04:00.40 | mousex | !whatis rcp |
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| 04:00.50 | arafangion | mousex: A depreciated tool. |
| 04:00.57 | mousex | :) |
| 04:01.03 | arafangion | mousex: Replaced by scp :) |
| 04:01.10 | Supaplex | alias rcp=scp |
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| 04:01.48 | Reprave | how do you kill a shell connection |
| 04:01.58 | Reprave | ssh * |
| 04:02.02 | Supaplex | with bad breath? |
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| 04:02.08 | Reprave | Lawl |
| 04:02.17 | aubergine | kill -7 |
| 04:02.30 | Supaplex | ~. will disconnect the current ssh session |
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| 04:02.47 | Supaplex | man ssh for more details on my nonsense :) |
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| 04:03.02 | mousex | don't you just loooove an RTFM response . .. not |
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| 04:03.07 | Reprave | No i mean like kill a shell from my other box from here |
| 04:03.16 | Reprave | d/c it |
| 04:03.39 | mousex | from your other box, or from your location? |
| 04:03.46 | somePriest | Reprave : Kill the process? |
| 04:03.59 | mousex | there's a process called "bash" |
| 04:04.01 | mousex | ps -e |
| 04:04.06 | Reprave | o |
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| 04:05.06 | somePriest | s/?/\./ |
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| 04:05.20 | phildo | heys, it looks like mplayer has crashed after playing a mpg movie (in x) the screen looks like it's gone to console, with flashing colorful characters on the screen |
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| 04:05.40 | phildo | is any way to resurect the x session without restarting it? |
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| 04:05.52 | dondelelcaro | phildo: flip to a console and back |
| 04:06.31 | phildo | dondelelcaro; score! |
| 04:06.33 | phildo | thanks ;) |
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| 04:06.36 | dondelelcaro | phildo: np |
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| 04:06.54 | dondelelcaro | that'll often clean up screen writing glitches |
| 04:06.59 | daemonic | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-2-686 |
| 04:07.00 | daemonic | on running kernel 2.4.27-2-386 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs |
| 04:07.03 | daemonic | how might I fix that? |
| 04:07.14 | arafangion | How do I figure out what port 4506 is used for? |
| 04:07.28 | TwistedEmotions | What is a good irc program that is easy to run in console? |
| 04:07.32 | TwistedEmotions | bitchx? |
| 04:07.32 | dabaR | arafangion: like just in general? |
| 04:07.33 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: install initrd-tools or yaird |
| 04:07.33 | daemonic | TwistedEmotions: irssi |
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| 04:07.45 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: irssi. There is no other. |
| 04:07.55 | mousex | irssi-text |
| 04:07.56 | TwistedEmotions | ty ;) Will try it. |
| 04:07.58 | arafangion | dabaR: Yeah, it's appearing in my firewall (rejected). I'm wondering if there is some trojan or spyware installed on my network. |
| 04:08.17 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: there is no other... as in it's the best..? or the rest wont work? |
| 04:08.19 | Tortel | Goodnight |
| 04:08.21 | dabaR | arafangion: did you google? do you use cisco hardware? |
| 04:08.35 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: as in the rest are no competition for it. |
| 04:08.38 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: I do have yaird installed |
| 04:08.46 | jah | hello :) |
| 04:08.58 | arafangion | dabaR: Don't use cisco at all. |
| 04:08.59 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: and initrd tools? |
| 04:09.09 | dabaR | arafangion: how about mysql? |
| 04:09.11 | arafangion | dabaR: My google karma isn't too good today, it seems. |
| 04:09.13 | arafangion | dabaR: Nope. |
| 04:09.17 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: yes. |
| 04:09.25 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: Ahhh.. ty. |
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| 04:09.57 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: yaird and initrd-tools are both installed but I cannot update my kernel. |
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| 04:10.44 | poop | ieee1394: Error parsing configrom for node 0-01:1023 <-- is that fatal? |
| 04:11.26 | dabaR | arafangion: have you tried using portmap? |
| 04:12.06 | dabaR | arafangion: nm |
| 04:12.19 | TwistedEmotions | If I wanted to hide files...? |
| 04:12.40 | arafangion | dabaR: portmap wouldn't work here. |
| 04:12.57 | dabaR | arafangion: its not related anyhow. |
| 04:13.29 | aubergine | twisted: hide from anyone? |
| 04:13.40 | TwistedEmotions | aubergine: yeah... |
| 04:13.41 | liable | s/files/pr0n |
| 04:13.46 | liable | :) |
| 04:14.07 | poop | Give to here. I'll keep it secret. |
| 04:14.13 | TwistedEmotions | aubergine: people have access to my computer 24/7.. ;) cant block... want to make sure only people who are suppose to can access the files ;) |
| 04:14.40 | aubergine | with root rights? |
| 04:14.44 | ThomasThumb | That is easy in unix |
| 04:14.52 | TwistedEmotions | poop: liable has a copy of all of them... it's in /etc/dont/look/here/l33t/.pron |
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| 04:15.14 | TwistedEmotions | aubergine: yeah normally.. |
| 04:15.15 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: ok, give the full and complete output of the dpkg --configure -a; run. |
| 04:15.20 | aubergine | twisted: if not use chmod and chown... |
| 04:15.24 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: use the paster bot to do so. |
| 04:15.34 | aubergine | twisted: then make them none root ;) |
| 04:15.39 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: how do I use said paste bot? |
| 04:16.11 | TwistedEmotions | There are no programs out there that will hide a while tree or whatever? |
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| 04:16.16 | TwistedEmotions | *whole |
| 04:16.23 | aubergine | twisted: sure |
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| 04:16.27 | liable | encryption? |
| 04:16.35 | TwistedEmotions | aubergine: apt-cache search hide didnt give me ishhht ;P |
| 04:16.36 | mousex | Deke, here now? |
| 04:16.37 | Deke | can you hear me know? |
| 04:16.40 | daemonic | how do I use the paster bot? |
| 04:16.42 | mousex | Deke . .. good |
| 04:16.45 | arafangion | dabaR: Would you agree that it is a very suspicious entry? |
| 04:16.45 | TheCount | Deke: no, sorry |
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| 04:16.55 | TwistedEmotions | liable: encryption is too much ;P |
| 04:16.55 | dondelelcaro | !tell daemonic -about paster |
| 04:16.56 | TheCount | Deke: but we can read what you write, does that help? |
| 04:16.57 | Deke | how about now? |
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| 04:17.04 | Subvertir | hi #debian |
| 04:17.05 | Deke | yeah, that's good |
| 04:17.05 | mousex | no |
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| 04:17.22 | TwistedEmotions | steghide - A steganography hiding tool |
| 04:17.22 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: I dont have x so no browser.. any other way to paste the output? |
| 04:17.26 | TwistedEmotions | Is that it? |
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| 04:17.32 | Deke | this concludes the test of the emgercy system |
| 04:17.33 | dabaR | arafangion: I dont have enough knowledge, ask the channel again in a few. |
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| 04:17.34 | TwistedEmotions | what is a steganography? |
| 04:17.41 | mousex | hiding text in multimedia |
| 04:17.44 | arafangion | dabaR: Sure. |
| 04:17.58 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: visit #flood; there are also some command line clients to paste output, but that may be easier. |
| 04:18.00 | Alias_ | Hi. I was wondering if anyone knew of a URL to information about the "task" set of packages that I seem to remember once existed, but don't any more |
| 04:18.01 | poop | Twisted: "dict steganography" |
| 04:18.02 | TwistedEmotions | Ah... mousex I have seen that... it's great.. but in this case useless. ; ) |
| 04:18.05 | ThomasThumb | That was on numbers yesterday |
| 04:18.06 | Xenguy | mousex: elegant definition |
| 04:18.18 | TwistedEmotions | !dict steganography |
| 04:18.19 | mousex | :) |
| 04:18.20 | Alias_ | apt-get install task-database-mysql etc |
| 04:18.21 | dpkg | Dictionary 'steganography' (1 of 4): [Chaffing and Winnowing: Confidentiality without Encryption, Ronald L. Rivest, MIT Lab for Computer Science, 1998-03-22 (http://theory.lcs.mit.edu/~rivest/chaffing.txt)].. |
| 04:18.22 | ThomasThumb | I like Numbers |
| 04:18.25 | Subvertir | does multimedia include text? I thought that steganography included text hidden within text, basically any covert channel |
| 04:18.31 | poop | Numb3rs |
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| 04:18.41 | poop | pwn3d |
| 04:18.44 | Deke | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:18.45 | TwistedEmotions | Wow.. that was a horrible definition ;) |
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| 04:18.55 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: there. pasted in #flood |
| 04:18.56 | beardy | Alias_: They are still there, some of them, use aptitude. |
| 04:19.01 | mousex | basically hidding messages or entire files in the bits or PCM conversions of picture/sound/video files |
| 04:19.04 | mousex | how's that? |
| 04:19.11 | Alias_ | beardy: I don't want to use them so much as find information about the concept |
| 04:19.22 | TwistedEmotions | mousex: your first one was sufficient... |
| 04:19.30 | Alias_ | beardy: I'm looking at implementing something similar in CPAN to provide a successor to the Bundle:: namespace |
| 04:19.40 | liable | isnt 2.6.14-2 out? |
| 04:19.40 | Deke | this is my name |
| 04:19.47 | ThomasThumb | Will 1 million blocks be enough for a dist-upgrade? |
| 04:20.03 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: How much space do you have left? |
| 04:20.05 | Xenguy | 1 billion! |
| 04:20.10 | Xenguy | dollars |
| 04:20.14 | aubergine | *g |
| 04:20.16 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: And compare it with how much space apt-get dist-upgrade reports. |
| 04:20.21 | somePriest | Has anyone here used DVD Styler? |
| 04:20.22 | ThomasThumb | 1 million blocks |
| 04:20.23 | poop | Linux mivo.localnet 2.6.14-2-k7 #1 Mon Nov 14 15:33:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 04:20.31 | poop | It sure would be neat to run an amd64 kernel. |
| 04:20.39 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: any ideas? |
| 04:20.54 | somePriest | ...is it just for making menus, and laying out chapters/titles for files previously converted to appropriate video format? |
| 04:21.15 | Deke | gab, can you still see me? |
| 04:21.22 | ThomasThumb | 1 million blocks is a gig???? |
| 04:21.41 | aubergine | thomas: use df |
| 04:22.05 | ThomasThumb | I did, I have a million blocks |
| 04:22.12 | ThomasThumb | I think that is a gig? |
| 04:22.14 | aubergine | and 1k? |
| 04:23.23 | ThomasThumb | One million 1k blocks, that must be a gig. |
| 04:23.34 | ThomasThumb | A gig is a billion right? |
| 04:23.40 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: no idea eh? =\ |
| 04:24.01 | aubergine | 1024 is 1mb |
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| 04:24.25 | ThomasThumb | I think dist-upgrade wanted 57 million bytes |
| 04:24.44 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: well, the problem is that none of the mkinitrd/mkinitramfs/mkinitrd.yaird can support going from the kernel you've got (2.4.27) to the one you're installing (2.6.14) |
| 04:24.52 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: the question is, what do do about that. |
| 04:25.05 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: well.. any ideas what I can do about that? |
| 04:25.19 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: STOP making things so hard. |
| 04:25.25 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: if you know what you're doing, you can manually build the initrd by specifying the modules that you need on it, and then rebooting, and then running dpkg --configure -a |
| 04:25.31 | arafangion | ThomasThumb: Just run the damn df -h and see how much space you have left. |
| 04:26.23 | dondelelcaro | daemonic: whether you use mkinitrd or mkinitrd.yaird is totally up to you. |
| 04:27.42 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* they're quite useful in some circumstances. |
| 04:27.57 | daemonic | dondelelcaro: this situation is teh suck! |
| 04:28.07 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: A 1GB / is much more useful than any initrd. |
| 04:28.14 | liable | daemonic: have you tried -2? |
| 04:28.22 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: root does not really need to live on lvm, etc. |
| 04:28.39 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: that doesn't really have anything to do with why initrds are useful |
| 04:28.52 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: Care to educate me? :) |
| 04:28.55 | daemonic | liable: -2 ? |
| 04:29.06 | liable | 2.6.14-2 |
| 04:29.06 | daemonic | liable: ohh, no. |
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| 04:29.39 | dondelelcaro | liable: that won't change anything; the issue is with what $_ --supported-host-version=$hostversion --supported-target-version=$version 1; returns in the postinst. |
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| 04:30.05 | liable | dondelelcaro: ok. thought it couldnt hurt. |
| 04:30.05 | daemonic | liable: same problem. |
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| 04:31.02 | dondelelcaro | the reason why the postinst is complaining is because there's no sane way for it to figure out which modules that it should include (currently, anyway) and so it bails out, rather than leaving you with a non-bootable system. |
| 04:32.12 | Firestarter2 | is there a way to edit bootable floppy images in linux. I have one that works with dosemu but need to add and change files |
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| 04:32.32 | arafangion | Firestarter2: You could try mounting them... |
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| 04:34.19 | arafangion | What are "saturated fats"? |
| 04:34.41 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: lipids that have the maximal number of hydrogens on them (ie, no unsaturations) |
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| 04:35.06 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: I see, therefore they are quite unreactive? |
| 04:35.16 | Firestarter2 | aragangion: thanks any idea how or what options |
| 04:35.22 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: no, doesn't have anything to do with their reactivity |
| 04:36.17 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: These chips are saying "25% lower in saaturated fat". |
| 04:37.02 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: right, that's because it's commonly thought that unsaturated fats give less energy than saturated ones. [Primarily because the unsaturations aren't readily hydrolyzed.] |
| 04:37.35 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: So, healthwise, what does it mean? |
| 04:37.38 | liable | heh, you learn something new on #debian every day :) |
| 04:37.56 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: I am an incredibly light person for my age (59.8 Kg male, 20 years old) |
| 04:38.14 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: that's a good question. Anyone who claims that they know precisely is a quack. |
| 04:38.59 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: So, subjectively speaking, what do you think saturated fats mean healthwise? |
| 04:39.04 | arafangion | liable: Heh. |
| 04:39.41 | dondelelcaro | arafangion: unless you've got high LDL or are overweight, there's no point in concerning yourself with it. Eat food that tastes good. |
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| 04:40.10 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: Curry :) |
| 04:40.21 | Phated | Curry++ |
| 04:40.49 | arafangion | Bannana, Chicken, Beef, Carrot, Eggplant... all kinds :) |
| 04:41.40 | arafangion | Except for the spices, curry is an amazingly cheap meal imho. |
| 04:41.58 | liable | banana curry? |
| 04:42.01 | arafangion | dondelelcaro: Some of my friends say I am so light because I never eat dairy. |
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| 04:43.00 | arafangion | liable: Yup, the nicest of them all :) Have it mild and not very spicy (I put things in such as a bit of ginger, star anise, cumin, corriander seed, water, boil the liquid for a while then add bananas, cook for 1 minute) |
| 04:43.01 | liable | heh, for some reason that comment just made me think of the movie snatch..i might watch it. (again) |
| 04:43.22 | liable | arafangion: funky, might have to try that. |
| 04:43.52 | arafangion | liable: I also put in a spoonful of honey. Mind you, this curry is *very* sweet and really gets into the rice :) |
| 04:44.36 | arafangion | liable: I think most people put in some cream as well, but I do not have dairy (Last time I used a bit of coconut cream) |
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| 04:45.38 | liable | arafangion: yeah, just googling a recipe now, says use coconut cream. |
| 04:46.01 | arafangion | liable: I think I based mine on a recipe from wikipedia. |
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| 04:47.14 | arafangion | liable: Did you know that cans of coconut "cream" or "milk" contain both the cream and the milk? |
| 04:47.21 | arafangion | liable: The two are distinct. |
| 04:47.44 | arafangion | liable: Some recipies, such as indian curries, make no distinction, while others, such as thai (I think) do make a distinction. |
| 04:48.03 | arafangion | liable: When you *don't* shake the can, the bit that floats is the cream, and the fairly clear stuff on teh bottom is the milk. |
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| 04:49.03 | Fluten | how do i keep something running in the background after i close a terminal? |
| 04:49.15 | Fluten | i try ./command &, and the command quits after i close the terminal |
| 04:49.30 | arafangion | Fluten: use nohup command |
| 04:49.36 | arafangion | Fluten: But I prefer to use screen. |
| 04:49.43 | [bman] | Hello, I've tried to subscribe to some mailing lists on the lists.debian.org page, and I haven't received a response yet. It has been a couple of hours, and I don't see anything bouncing on my mail server. How long should it take to subscribe? |
| 04:50.04 | arafangion | [bman]: I always wait about a day until I start worrying. |
| 04:50.09 | Xenguy | Fluten: screen works well too |
| 04:50.10 | toblerp | you can also try to use screen, probably you would prefer this tool |
| 04:50.14 | [bman] | arafangion: ok |
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| 04:51.07 | EvilDebian | is there a way to pass keycodes to the kernel during boot? |
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| 04:51.32 | EvilDebian | i need to pass codes from my wireless button on my laptop |
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| 04:53.07 | arafangion | EvilDebian: When you're booting, hit 'e' to edit the command. |
| 04:53.18 | arafangion | EvilDebian: Then, you can pass parameters in grub |
| 04:53.26 | EvilDebian | nono, not boot args |
| 04:53.42 | EvilDebian | i just need to pass keypresses |
| 04:53.43 | Fluten | i just did nohup ./script.sh &, it keeps running when i have the window open, but then quits after i close it |
| 04:53.45 | arafangion | EvilDebian: I don't think there are any other ways. |
| 04:53.47 | Fluten | am i using it right? |
| 04:53.54 | EvilDebian | ok |
| 04:53.56 | [bman] | EvilDebian: try looking around in /etc/console, but make your changes in /etc/console-tools/remap |
| 04:54.14 | arafangion | Fluten: How does it quit? |
| 04:54.31 | Fluten | ah, there it goes, it just didnt show up first in top |
| 04:54.35 | EvilDebian | i have to send two keypresses on my wireless button automatically before wpasupplicant tries to bring it up |
| 04:54.46 | arafangion | Fluten: output from the program goes to a file. |
| 04:54.53 | Fluten | i need to keep my distributed computing apps running to keep my basement warm :) |
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| 04:55.08 | arafangion | Fluten: Just get an athlon. |
| 04:55.26 | [bman] | arafangion: lol |
| 04:55.43 | arafangion | Fluten: Or a P4 with a dodgy fan, those beasts can handle up to 91 degrees C (I know this from personal experience, they do NOT like 92 degrees celcius) |
| 04:56.16 | EvilDebian | anyone? i have the keycodes |
| 04:56.30 | [bman] | EvilDebian: what are the keycodes |
| 04:56.31 | arafangion | EvilDebian: I don't think there are any other ways. |
| 04:56.44 | EvilDebian | arafangion: then how would i pass them in grub |
| 04:56.49 | krassy1809 | I download essentials codecs from mplayerhq.hu in witch directory need to extract them for work with kaffeine ? |
| 04:56.59 | arafangion | EvilDebian: As a parameter to the kernel. |
| 04:57.06 | EvilDebian | 214 and 213 |
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| 04:57.14 | Fluten | i have a 1.4gig athlon, 366mhz pentium 2, and a 233mhz pentium 2 warming my basement |
| 04:57.14 | arafangion | EvilDebian: Unless you're talking about *after* the kernel boots, in the initscripts. |
| 04:57.21 | Fluten | so it should get better once i add an athlon |
| 04:57.23 | EvilDebian | ara: yes, that's what i'm talking about |
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| 04:57.55 | arafangion | EvilDebian: update-rc.d, and I believe there's a skeleton script in /etc/init.d/skel or something. |
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| 04:58.19 | htet | Hi |
| 04:58.23 | EvilDebian | ok so what would i put in that script? |
| 04:58.44 | arafangion | EvilDebian: I don't know :) |
| 04:59.21 | htet | I tried to upgrade my debian box and after restart , I am not getting X anymore |
| 04:59.44 | EvilDebian | [bman], what can I do with those keycodes |
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| 05:00.31 | TiMiDo | !tell htet about set up x |
| 05:00.38 | Rodrigo[BR] | alguem do Brazil ? |
| 05:00.45 | TiMiDo | !br |
| 05:00.45 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 05:00.46 | xoz | upgrading especially in sid does not guarantee everything will be fine. |
| 05:01.00 | htet | When I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg (xfree86), it gives out Perl error with LC_ALL unset and locale not defined. I tried export LC_ALL=C |
| 05:01.01 | [bman] | EvilDebian: check out the docs in: /usr/share/doc/console-tools |
| 05:01.20 | [bman] | EvilDebian: and look at the examples directory. |
| 05:01.26 | EvilDebian | ok thanks |
| 05:01.37 | krassy1809 | I download essentials codecs from mplayerhq.hu in witch directory need to extract them for work with kaffeine ? |
| 05:01.49 | htet | I am not getting perl error anymore but it still cannot start dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg let alone X |
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| 05:03.43 | htet | my debian box use gdm when it starts, so when X fail, gdm give out error and ask me if I want see X error but I only see a blank error page in frontend dialog |
| 05:04.04 | psychonate | How can I see what windows shares are available on my network (for samba use)? |
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| 05:04.33 | squareguy | anyone got a url for a good headless debian how-to? |
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| 05:04.45 | [bman] | htet: try this and see if it works: dpkg-reconfigure -plow locales |
| 05:05.22 | EvilDebian | [bman], i don't think that's what i'm looking for, i basically just need to send those keycodes as if I pressed the keys myself in order for the wireless to be activated |
| 05:05.36 | [bman] | EvilDebian: ah |
| 05:05.38 | htet | ok, thx, I will try that now, bman, |
| 05:05.50 | liable | squareguy: install without monitor? |
| 05:06.11 | squareguy | liable, yes |
| 05:06.38 | htet | "locales is broken or not fully installed" |
| 05:06.56 | htet | timido, I have X before |
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| 05:07.01 | liable | squareguy: you have a system on there already? |
| 05:07.24 | squareguy | liable, no its blank |
| 05:08.10 | htet | I can't do apt-get upgrade also, It fails because of udev dependency and when I try to install udev, it exit with "script returned error 1 exit status 1" |
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| 05:12.14 | liable | squareguy: i dont know how you could, short of doing an automated install.. |
| 05:12.33 | htet | timido, I try the command from dpkg just now but it also fails with the udev and perl problem |
| 05:12.46 | raden1 | htet, sounds like a permission problem |
| 05:13.10 | htet | raden, I am running as root |
| 05:13.10 | [bman] | EvilDebian: idk how you would do that |
| 05:13.15 | squareguy | liable, alright i guess ill pop in a vid card |
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| 05:15.01 | htet | I wonder if udev_0.074-3_i386.deb is broken |
| 05:15.23 | Bogaurd | is the 2.4 kernal considered obsolete nowadays? when im setting up my home lan server, should i go for 2.4 or 2.6? |
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| 05:15.53 | wang | holy drunk |
| 05:16.14 | htet | I used kernel.org before and I changed to ftp.debian.org, I still got the same error for udev |
| 05:16.48 | Bogaurd | ...any suggestions? 2.4 vs 2.6? |
| 05:16.54 | Iam8up | i'm having problems with X windows; reading through the X-wiki it suggests using X -configure; to do this i need root permissions and i can't become su w/o the root password.... |
| 05:17.26 | htet | boaguard, I will got for 2.6 |
| 05:18.03 | Bogaurd | hmm, okay |
| 05:18.08 | Bogaurd | 2.6 reccomended then? |
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| 05:18.49 | htet | yeh, it is pretty much stable now and you will find more functionality and packages , I think |
| 05:18.59 | Iam8up | what happened to 2.5? |
| 05:19.15 | htet | 2.5 is a stepping stone |
| 05:19.48 | Iam8up | why is the gui so fucking hard to get into? =( |
| 05:19.51 | htet | even number Kernel are stable ones while odd number are testing unstable |
| 05:20.06 | Bogaurd | ah okay :) |
| 05:20.19 | htet | If you don't have root access, I am out of wit |
| 05:20.40 | bucky | Iam8up: why don't you have the root passwd ? |
| 05:21.13 | Iam8up | bucky - i just installed debian...through the installation it gave me the option to make a 'non-administrative use' account, which i made |
| 05:21.22 | Iam8up | but i never got the option to make a root account password |
| 05:21.33 | bucky | which version of debian are you using |
| 05:21.39 | DA_ | Iam8up: yes it also requires you enter a password (twice) to be used as the root user's password |
| 05:21.40 | Iam8up | 5.10 i believe |
| 05:21.46 | jbroome | hahaha |
| 05:22.01 | DA_ | Iam8up: having a root account is not optional. |
| 05:22.10 | htet | Seems, like , I need to walkt the old path again , reinstalling the box to get the working box, what a pain |
| 05:22.10 | bucky | Iam8up: i think you're using ubuntu and they use sudo... they know more about it in #ubuntu |
| 05:22.11 | jbroome | and 5.10 isn't a version of debian |
| 05:22.12 | Iam8up | DA_ - so when i typed in the password twice during installation, that was the root password? |
| 05:22.19 | Iam8up | oh god.. |
| 05:22.22 | Iam8up | i'm in the wrong channel... |
| 05:22.29 | Iam8up | i thought i was in ubuntu... |
| 05:22.30 | bucky | no problem |
| 05:22.31 | Bogaurd | lol :p |
| 05:22.39 | Iam8up | what a dumbfuck mistake... |
| 05:22.41 | DA_ | Iam8up: the first time? yes, after it asked for user accounts? no, that password was the password of your user account |
| 05:22.43 | Iam8up | i'm sorry guys... |
| 05:23.00 | Iam8up | DA_ - during installatation of ubuntu, you mean? |
| 05:23.04 | bucky | they use a completely different deal on that |
| 05:23.12 | Iam8up | but it didn't ask for multiple users, it was one initial user |
| 05:23.13 | DA_ | do they? |
| 05:23.15 | htet | Iam8up: you can use sudo command |
| 05:23.42 | htet | type sudo in command line give your password, that is kind of root privelege |
| 05:23.54 | Iam8up | i'm heading over to #ubuntu now =) |
| 05:23.59 | bucky | and then /join #ubuntu |
| 05:23.59 | htet | good luck |
| 05:24.00 | DA_ | still i dont know of linux distribution that DOESN'T ask for a root password, root's password cannot be blank either afaik |
| 05:24.02 | Iam8up | they told me to try 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg', which didn't help |
| 05:24.12 | bucky | good luck |
| 05:24.36 | htet | DA_ ubuntu installation does not ask for root password |
| 05:24.49 | DA_ | haha.... |
| 05:25.03 | Xenguy | htet: yeah, I hear it is an OSX thing also |
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| 05:25.21 | htet | Iam8up, that line is true but don't know why you can't make it work |
| 05:25.31 | DA_ | htet: so the root account is inaccessible, but the user account gets sudo access? |
| 05:25.36 | Iam8up | htet - neither do i =( |
| 05:25.37 | htet | yeh |
| 05:25.53 | bucky | ubuntu has been having some problems lately and only they know what they are |
| 05:25.55 | Xenguy | DA_: you do 'sudo -i', and you have a root environment |
| 05:25.59 | htet | Iam8up, try a new installation :D |
| 05:26.07 | Iam8up | i just did |
| 05:26.09 | Iam8up | like 15 minutes ago |
| 05:26.11 | DA_ | Xenguy: i know how sudo works |
| 05:26.32 | Xenguy | DA_: umm, you asked a question, and I offered an answer - that's it |
| 05:26.34 | htet | try again then, this time, make it administrative or something like that |
| 05:26.48 | bucky | Breezy has had some problems and only the ubuntu guys know how to solve them |
| 05:26.52 | sylvain | When I install debian i borrowed the DVD drive of a friend. Gave it back and copied the DVD as an ISO file. how can i "reindex" the packages locations for apt-get to find them in the iso file and not on the DVD? |
| 05:27.01 | htet | if you go to the FAQ sessions, you can find how to get root access from your sudo command |
| 05:28.02 | DA_ | Iam8up: other than that, any problems you have should probably be discussed in #ubuntu, sorry |
| 05:28.05 | bucky | sylvain: put deb file:///cdrom/ sarge main in your sources.list? |
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| 05:28.23 | Iam8up | yep..i'm there... |
| 05:29.18 | atrus | the first thing I did the last time i used ubuntu was use sudo to make the root account accessable again :) |
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| 05:29.49 | bucky | i decided to upgrade to linux so i install debian |
| 05:29.51 | sylvain | where is it located? |
| 05:29.58 | htet | Seems like, I need to reinstall my box |
| 05:29.59 | sylvain | (new to linux) |
| 05:29.59 | bucky | /etc/apt |
| 05:30.06 | sylvain | thx so much |
| 05:30.31 | htet | <----not new but still newbie |
| 05:31.37 | Brian_L | i wish |
| 05:31.48 | Brian_L | srry :) |
| 05:32.46 | Tchiak | 66555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555555 |
| 05:33.48 | EvilDebian | ... |
| 05:34.02 | Tchiak | cat |
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| 05:34.58 | EvilDebian | heh |
| 05:35.08 | EvilDebian | my windows irc name from this laptop is EvilLappy |
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| 05:39.49 | ThomasThumb | I got problem after dist-upgrade. I am pasting to flood |
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| 05:41.14 | ThomasThumb | Should I use apt-get -f install? |
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| 05:43.13 | ThomasThumb | Hello????? |
| 05:43.48 | bucky | apt-get -f install is good |
| 05:44.55 | phycho | how would i remove all the packages that i dont want |
| 05:45.01 | phycho | without doing each and every one |
| 05:45.09 | ThomasThumb | Do I have to tell it which package to install? |
| 05:45.10 | phycho | (my vps admin installs them all automatically :( boooo!) |
| 05:45.16 | phycho | i want a minimal install |
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| 05:46.28 | bucky | ThomasThumb: nope... just apt-get -f install |
| 05:46.40 | Phated | phycho: try debfoster, you can just hit y/n for your packages. |
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| 05:47.40 | phycho | k ty |
| 05:47.58 | ThomasThumb | OK it is asking if I want to interrupt programs. |
| 05:48.08 | ThomasThumb | Should I log out of X? |
| 05:48.17 | bucky | no |
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| 05:48.28 | ThomasThumb | no? |
| 05:48.48 | bucky | stay in X and enter for the default Y |
| 05:48.54 | stazich | hi, i want to create a normal linux partition on my /hda5 which is now "free spacE" anyone can tell me the command? |
| 05:49.02 | stazich | i know its something to do with m,kfsd |
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| 05:49.15 | konfuzed | hey there I wanted to quickly confirm about SLI MoBo support and SLI video support. is it bug free and worth it or more of something to be avoided? |
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| 05:49.55 | nano_sor | i just installed phpmyadmin on my debian server, but when i open the page on it through my windows firefox, it wants me to download "application/x-httpd-php", is it a configuration error? it seems like the browser can't display so it wants me to download it, can someone help me? |
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| 05:50.38 | ThomasThumb | success!!!! |
| 05:50.48 | stazich | nano_sor, ud be better off asking in #php |
| 05:50.57 | ThomasThumb | It suggests I reboot. So I will do so. |
| 05:50.57 | bucky | nano_sor: apache2 ? |
| 05:51.09 | nano_sor | bucky: yes |
| 05:51.33 | phycho | shut |
| 05:51.35 | phycho | *shit |
| 05:51.41 | phycho | what do i do if sysvinit got uninstalled? |
| 05:51.43 | phycho | how do i fix it |
| 05:51.44 | phycho | :| |
| 05:51.54 | phycho | i dont fancy adding in another support ticket for $10 a go |
| 05:51.54 | bucky | nano_sor: is the conf file for libapache2-mod-php4 linked in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled? |
| 05:51.54 | phycho | ! |
| 05:52.08 | phycho | ill just cancel my server if it cant be fixed |
| 05:52.08 | phycho | ;/ |
| 05:52.19 | phycho | phew.. it went down at last |
| 05:52.27 | nano_sor | bucky: i don't know, can you tell me how to check it? |
| 05:52.29 | phycho | nm |
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| 05:52.32 | phycho | *goes to reinstall* |
| 05:52.37 | bucky | nano_sor: there should be a php4.load and a php4.conf or something like that |
| 05:52.49 | bucky | nano_sor: use ls |
| 05:53.50 | bucky | phycho: apt-get install --reinstall sysvinit |
| 05:54.16 | lex_ | Ok... question: Ive a box that auths through ldap using nsswitch. It all works except two things: A) It appears when I ls -la logged in as a user, that the user cannot be resolved (uid shows instead of username) and B)Automounter mounts my home directories ro, even though it has an explicit rw option in /etc/export on the backend server... . |
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| 05:55.52 | ThomasThumb | I did dist-upgrade but now I have a strange desktop. |
| 05:56.13 | ThomasThumb | HOw do I get a more normal desktop? |
| 05:56.17 | bucky | ThomasThumb: what did you dist-upgrade to? |
| 05:56.24 | ThomasThumb | main |
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| 05:56.40 | ThomasThumb | Must be Sarge I guess. |
| 05:56.42 | bucky | most likely testing or unstable |
| 05:56.51 | Bogaurd | err, i'm trying to use my debian CD to install from an ftp site, but it keeps resolving the IP to 1.0.0.0 and never working =\ |
| 05:56.54 | Bogaurd | any ideas? |
| 05:56.55 | bucky | Sarge from woody? |
| 05:57.05 | Bogaurd | the box has network connectivity for sure. |
| 05:57.14 | ThomasThumb | sources.list say main |
| 05:57.25 | ThomasThumb | I am not sure if I had Woody or potato |
| 05:57.47 | Bogaurd | anyone? |
| 05:57.48 | bucky | main is not a version |
| 05:58.35 | Bogaurd | bah got it to work, just pullet the network cable out and plugged in about 20 times. |
| 05:58.36 | Bogaurd | weird. |
| 05:58.42 | Bogaurd | pulled* |
| 05:59.03 | bucky | Bogaurd: it resolve your ip to 1.0.0.0 ? |
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| 05:59.20 | Bogaurd | no, it reslved the IP of the external ftp sit to 1.0.0.0 |
| 05:59.31 | bucky | or tries to install from ftp://1.0.0.0 |
| 05:59.48 | ThomasThumb | I dont like this desktop. only way to get programs is right click with mouse |
| 05:59.55 | bucky | did the installer ask you to pick a repository? |
| 06:00.13 | bucky | ThomasThumb: which desktop do you want? |
| 06:00.23 | ThomasThumb | Something else |
| 06:00.28 | ThomasThumb | Gnome relate |
| 06:00.55 | ThomasThumb | I think this is enlightenment |
| 06:01.06 | bucky | i like gnome.. i use xfce4 it's lighter and uses gtk.. |
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| 06:02.24 | bucky | apt-get install something else and get gdm for a graphical login |
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| 06:02.40 | ThomasThumb | How do I get the defalut desktop. The one that says Debian and all that |
| 06:03.25 | bucky | there is no default desktop.. you just decide which one you want and apt-get install 'it' |
| 06:03.34 | fikri | 373 |
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| 06:03.48 | fikri | aaaaaoooo |
| 06:04.08 | ThomasThumb | Give me one and I will install it please? |
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| 06:04.41 | ThomasThumb | HOw to tell what I got? |
| 06:05.02 | ThomasThumb | Must be enlightenment |
| 06:06.08 | bucky | apt-cache show gnome apt-cache show xfce4 apt-get install gnome apt-get install xfce4 and i'd apt-get install gdm |
| 06:06.34 | bucky | you like gnome? |
| 06:06.45 | ThomasThumb | I never used kde |
| 06:06.57 | bucky | why start now :) |
| 06:07.21 | bucky | ThomasThumb: you know what cde was like? |
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| 06:07.44 | ThomasThumb | I Like the way my computer is set up at work |
| 06:07.54 | bucky | hows that? |
| 06:08.26 | ThomasThumb | It is just default testing, but I like the desktop. |
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| 06:08.37 | bucky | what kind of desktop? |
| 06:08.44 | ThomasThumb | gnome |
| 06:08.54 | ThomasThumb | I dont even know, I never messed with it. |
| 06:09.21 | bucky | i'd get in a console and apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 06:09.27 | ThomasThumb | I just installed and I liked what I got. |
| 06:09.50 | bucky | then it will bring you to a graphical login when it's done |
| 06:10.09 | bucky | ThomasThumb: debian doesn't make choices for you |
| 06:10.19 | nano_sor | I found that i need this line of code " |
| 06:10.32 | bucky | apt-cache search window-manager and you'll see almost all of the choices |
| 06:10.48 | nano_sor | AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php but do i put it in httpd.conf? |
| 06:11.00 | konfuzed | hey there I wanted to quickly confirm about SLI MoBo support and SLI video support. is it bug free and worth it or more of something to be avoided? |
| 06:11.00 | bucky | ThomasThumb: that's a bad thing about sarge.. there's about 5000 packages |
| 06:11.43 | bucky | nano_sor: that's a good way but |
| 06:11.48 | ThomasThumb | What do you call an exterm with a scroll bar? |
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| 06:11.56 | ThomasThumb | I need that too also. |
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| 06:12.10 | konfuzed | is nayone here using an SLI video card? |
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| 06:12.51 | bucky | nano_sor: actually you should be able to a2enmod mod_php4 or something like that |
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| 06:13.26 | bucky | and that will add php4.conf to /etc/apache2/mods-enabled with that line in it |
| 06:13.52 | nano_sor | bucky: i know little about setting up a server...but i don't know where to put that line of code someone told me |
| 06:14.11 | ThomasThumb | I have problem I will post to flood. |
| 06:14.45 | bucky | nano_sor: cat /etc/apache2/mods-available/php4.conf |
| 06:14.49 | bucky | see if it's there |
| 06:14.51 | liable | is tvtime the recommended program for a tv tuner card? |
| 06:15.26 | pbryan | tvtime is pretty slick, I hear. |
| 06:15.28 | ThomasThumb | Do I have to Google that one? |
| 06:15.39 | bucky | which one |
| 06:16.03 | nano_sor | bucky: i don't have a php4.conf in that directory |
| 06:16.05 | bucky | ThomasThumb: /msg dpkg paster |
| 06:16.05 | ThomasThumb | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:16.08 | Philomot | Hello! |
| 06:16.12 | liable | ThomasThumb: you still trying to install that package? have you successfully dist-upgraded yet? |
| 06:16.20 | Philomot | Does debian come with a firewall installed? |
| 06:16.27 | bucky | nano_sor: dpkg -l libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 06:16.29 | ThomasThumb | i just dist-upgraded |
| 06:16.37 | liable | Philomot: no. |
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| 06:16.47 | ThomasThumb | I dont like my new desktop either. |
| 06:17.00 | bucky | ThomasThumb: dpkg can tell you where to paste if you need to |
| 06:17.06 | liable | ok, i guess i'll just try tvtime then.. |
| 06:17.10 | pbryan | Philomot: nope. |
| 06:17.12 | ThomasThumb | flood? |
| 06:17.18 | bucky | ok |
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| 06:17.57 | Philomot | Okay, so do you know why my pure-ftpd will open a connection and then instantly drop it when I try to connect? |
| 06:18.04 | liable | holy shit, it pulls in 37 packages.. |
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| 06:18.21 | pbryan | Philomot: Are you running your Debian system behind a NAT router? |
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| 06:19.36 | atrus | liable: that's probabbly because it recommends xmltv stuff. you can override that if you want, but once you get it set up, it's really sweet. on-screen program descriptions & stuff. |
| 06:19.43 | Philomot | .. |
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| 06:20.43 | ThomasThumb | No Google hits on my error message |
| 06:20.50 | ThomasThumb | Damn |
| 06:21.06 | bucky | paste it in #flood |
| 06:23.01 | nano_sor | bucky: i installed libapache2-mod-php4, and there's a php4.conf, i add "AddHandler application/x-httpd-php .php", it still does not work |
| 06:23.27 | arnon | I am trying to give a user a permission to run /sbin/reboot, I |
| 06:23.27 | arnon | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.27 | arnon | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:23.48 | bucky | nano_sor: did you restart apache2 usually it does that |
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| 06:24.10 | liable | atrus: yah, it actually just surprised me, by working, now i am gonna have a play :) |
| 06:24.20 | nano_sor | bucky: i did restart the apache2 |
| 06:25.19 | bucky | hmm... |
| 06:25.33 | ice_1963 | well i installed sie i;m Back to sarge sid still need's some work :0) |
| 06:25.44 | phycho | guys i got a problem |
| 06:25.48 | phycho | "ps" has dissapeared |
| 06:25.50 | phycho | as well as uptime |
| 06:26.23 | phycho | any ideas how to get them back? ;/ |
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| 06:27.06 | corp-mule | what the hell is this telnet.netkit crap? |
| 06:27.19 | arnon | do I need to restart something after editing /etc/sudoers ? |
| 06:27.44 | cap | arnon, no. |
| 06:28.03 | jmd | arnon: Not if you've edited it using visudo |
| 06:28.08 | phycho | anyone know what debian package has "ps" and "uptime" |
| 06:28.19 | phycho | (i dont fancy having to reinstall the whole fkin thing again) |
| 06:28.45 | jmd | phycho: procps |
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| 06:29.06 | cat | hey |
| 06:29.09 | phycho | ty |
| 06:29.12 | cat | i wonder why all my icons are so damn big? |
| 06:29.33 | phycho | sorted :) cheers mate! |
| 06:30.27 | cap | cat, maybe your monitor is just damn small. :P |
| 06:30.32 | arnon | I've given a user permission to reboot by using visudo but he still can't reboot.. |
| 06:30.52 | cat | cap not really, |
| 06:31.11 | cat | on ubuntu everything was ok, but i got us to Debian so i wanted it to come back really badly |
| 06:31.18 | arnon | oh it's working actually, thanks |
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| 06:32.50 | phycho | not another reinstall =((( |
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| 06:38.30 | Toynbee | Grr.. |
| 06:38.37 | Toynbee | Why is my FTP server immediately dropping any FTP connection? |
| 06:39.10 | cat | anyone here knows the default, fluxbox fonts |
| 06:39.11 | bucky | did you edit the conf file to allow anonymous users? |
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| 06:39.17 | Philomot | I did indeed. |
| 06:39.44 | bucky | Philomot: did you restart it? |
| 06:39.52 | Philomot | I did indeed. |
| 06:40.13 | bucky | what does ftp://localhost do? |
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| 06:40.17 | Philomot | Sec.. |
| 06:41.02 | Philomot | Please forgive, I don't know how to do that from a command line. |
| 06:41.24 | bucky | Philomot: in your browser |
| 06:41.32 | bucky | mozilla or whatever |
| 06:41.35 | Philomot | On this computer, it says it could not find the file. |
| 06:41.51 | bucky | ps aux |grep ftp |
| 06:41.51 | Philomot | Well, when I type ftp://1.2.3.203 (which is the IP). |
| 06:41.56 | Beretta | you have to type ftp localhost from the command line |
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| 06:42.07 | Beretta | the space is all critical |
| 06:42.24 | Philomot | It says, service not available, remote server has closed the connection. |
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| 06:42.45 | jsldub | does anybody here know of an apt source to get very up to date versions of transcode and ffmpeg? |
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| 06:43.18 | Beretta | hrm |
| 06:43.22 | bucky | i'm not familiar with pure-ftpd |
| 06:43.29 | Philomot | It's not pure ftpd anymore. |
| 06:43.32 | Philomot | I'm using vsftpd now. |
| 06:43.35 | bucky | it runs as a daemon right? |
| 06:43.45 | bucky | and you set it as stand alone? |
| 06:43.50 | Philomot | I did. |
| 06:44.00 | Philomot | Wait. |
| 06:44.04 | Philomot | It is running as a daemon. |
| 06:44.08 | Philomot | I'm not sure about the standalone part. |
| 06:44.11 | Beretta | I'm using vsftpd |
| 06:44.23 | Beretta | lemme check my settings |
| 06:44.27 | Philomot | Thank you. |
| 06:44.37 | bucky | anonymous_enable=YES |
| 06:44.49 | bucky | listen=YES |
| 06:45.38 | bucky | i use xinetd to run my vsftpd |
| 06:45.52 | Beretta | that's not running as a daemon then |
| 06:45.59 | bucky | right |
| 06:46.03 | Beretta | hrm |
| 06:46.08 | bucky | i just put that up there for him |
| 06:46.19 | bucky | listen=YES is stand alone |
| 06:46.52 | Beretta | hrm, I don't see any specific settings that should cause it to reject connections |
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| 06:47.02 | Beretta | it doesn't even give you a login prompt? |
| 06:47.08 | Philomot | I run /etc/init.d/vsftpd start |
| 06:47.11 | Philomot | No, it doesn't. |
| 06:47.53 | Philomot | And it is running as a standalone. |
| 06:47.57 | bucky | /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart |
| 06:48.04 | Philomot | I tried that alread.y |
| 06:48.04 | Philomot | .y |
| 06:48.09 | Philomot | Meh, screw the y. |
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| 06:48.21 | bucky | /var/log/vsftpd.log ? |
| 06:48.22 | Philomot | .... Erm. |
| 06:48.35 | Philomot | When I run the restart, it says: |
| 06:48.53 | Philomot | Restarting FTP Server: vsftpdNo /usr/sbin/vsftpd found; none killed. |
| 06:49.01 | Philomot | So it lies to me when it says it's launching it.. |
| 06:49.11 | Philomot | Hold on a sec.. |
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| 06:50.33 | ThomasThumb | Depends: libxrandr2 but it is not going to be installed or xlibs (> 4.3.0) but 4.1.0-16woody6 is to be installed |
| 06:50.57 | ThomasThumb | I cant find that error on Google |
| 06:51.13 | |ZORG| | С добрым утром Ñтрана! :) |
| 06:51.21 | poop | bork bork bork |
| 06:51.29 | bucky | change your sources.list like in #flood |
| 06:51.44 | bucky | stable to sarge and apt-get update |
| 06:51.47 | |ZORG| | Чем занимаешьÑÑ? |
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| 06:52.11 | Philomot | AFK. |
| 06:53.24 | ThomasThumb | That didnt do it. |
| 06:53.40 | ThomasThumb | I think I have a broken system. |
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| 06:54.36 | liable | cool tvtime does screenshots :) |
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| 06:55.07 | bucky | ThomasThumb: did you update and then upgrade ? |
| 06:55.19 | ThomasThumb | Yes |
| 06:55.35 | bucky | and comment out deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 2.2 r3 _Potato_ |
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| 06:55.58 | ThomasThumb | I also have a really strange desktop. |
| 06:56.23 | bucky | so what errors do you get when you apt-get update ? |
| 06:56.31 | ThomasThumb | none |
| 06:56.32 | bucky | now |
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| 06:56.57 | ThomasThumb | no errors |
| 06:56.58 | EdLin | !d-i ThomasThumb |
| 06:56.59 | dpkg | ThomasThumb, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 06:57.04 | Beretta | apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 06:57.06 | bucky | ThomasThumb: did you apt-get install gnome gdm |
| 06:57.45 | EdLin | trying to upgrade from Potato to Sarge piecemeal will give you nothing but pain. |
| 06:57.47 | ThomasThumb | I didnt do that |
| 06:57.59 | mcm | after installing the linux-header for the current kernel I noticed that some header files are missing in this package (especially for compiling truecrypt). why is this so? and is there a full kernel-source package that i can install? or do I have to download the kernel-source from kernel.org? |
| 06:58.02 | bucky | ThomasThumb: how old is this computer? |
| 06:58.17 | ThomasThumb | I started with potato |
| 06:58.31 | bucky | do you have enough ram to run gnome? |
| 06:58.36 | ThomasThumb | I think i upgraded to Woody |
| 06:58.41 | ThomasThumb | BUt not completely sure |
| 06:58.57 | bucky | you just need a desktop you can live with |
| 06:58.59 | ThomasThumb | 16 mb |
| 06:59.06 | mcm | ThomasThumb: can you check your /etc/apt.source files. |
| 06:59.24 | cat | can someone tell me what kind of fonts are these http://linuxers.cl/lalo/capturas/failure_sshot_20051102201944.jpg it should be the one on the terminal any ideas? |
| 06:59.31 | bucky | well you might be able to run fluxbox |
| 06:59.42 | bucky | it will be slow... |
| 07:00.10 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: larswm uses little memory, if fluxbox is too bloated for your 16 megs |
| 07:00.43 | cat | any ideas? |
| 07:00.51 | ThomasThumb | Pentium III coppermine |
| 07:01.21 | cat | can someone tell me what kind of fonts are these http://linuxers.cl/lalo/capturas/failure_sshot_20051102201944.jpg it should be the one on the terminal any ideas? |
| 07:01.22 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: the CPU isn't the problem, the RAM is - though are you sure you have 16M *RAM*? that's kind of small for a P3 |
| 07:01.22 | Beretta | p3 with 16mb of ram? |
| 07:01.31 | bucky | that's a good processor but you're a little short on ram.. got any lying around? |
| 07:02.04 | ThomasThumb | Where is the Ram at. |
| 07:02.29 | Beretta | cat /proc/meminfo |
| 07:02.35 | Beretta | first line |
| 07:02.36 | bucky | sounds like someone stole it |
| 07:02.39 | cat | can someone tell me plz |
| 07:03.04 | ThomasThumb | Mem: 129323008 124579840 4743168 0 19845120 7308083 |
| 07:03.11 | liable | hmm, no sound for tvtime. |
| 07:03.17 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: you have 128MB, not 16 |
| 07:03.20 | phycho | lol |
| 07:03.23 | Philomot | Okay. |
| 07:03.25 | Philomot | I'm sorry, I'm back. |
| 07:03.37 | ThomasThumb | I guess I have enough to do gnome |
| 07:03.39 | Philomot | I tried rebooting.. because there were other ftp daemons running (but no longer). |
| 07:03.40 | bucky | cat are you running debian? |
| 07:03.45 | cat | yeah y? |
| 07:03.52 | cat | i'm just wondering what kind of fonts are those, |
| 07:03.55 | cat | on the shot |
| 07:03.58 | Philomot | But vsftpd still won't start. It says starting, then when I say restart, it says none found. |
| 07:04.04 | bucky | that link is an openBSD box |
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| 07:04.06 | Beretta | hrm |
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| 07:04.17 | liable | mcm: sure you can install the kernel source and generate headers.. |
| 07:04.22 | cat | yeah i know i'm just wondering about the fonts bucky |
| 07:04.23 | Beretta | have you tried apt-get install --reinstall vsftpd ? |
| 07:04.48 | Philomot | No, but considering I've had this trouble with four different servers, I don't think the install is the problem. |
| 07:05.27 | bucky | Philomot: which version of debian? |
| 07:05.31 | Beretta | i'm just wondering 'cause of your log entry where it said couldn't find the server executable |
| 07:05.51 | Philomot | Erm. |
| 07:05.54 | Philomot | Whichever the latest is. |
| 07:06.08 | Philomot | I've installed a different distro on each of my twenty-seven boxes.. Sorry. |
| 07:06.09 | bucky | maybe it's not executable 755 |
| 07:06.16 | Beretta | how about running "which vsftpd" ? |
| 07:06.23 | Beretta | curious to know if it's there |
| 07:06.31 | Philomot | It says, /usr/sbin/vsftpd |
| 07:06.41 | Philomot | Hmmm. |
| 07:06.41 | tcsetattr | doesn't it have a debug mode? |
| 07:06.43 | Philomot | Wait. |
| 07:06.43 | ThomasThumb | I dont see anything at that debian installer page that can help me. |
| 07:06.46 | Philomot | I tried to run that and got: |
| 07:06.51 | bucky | Philomot: dpkg -l vsftpd |
| 07:06.59 | Philomot | 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket |
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| 07:07.21 | tcsetattr | so run netstat -tnl | grep :21 |
| 07:07.27 | Philomot | One sec. |
| 07:07.28 | tcsetattr | so run netstat -tnlp | grep :21 |
| 07:08.05 | bucky | his daemon won't even run |
| 07:08.14 | Philomot | I reinstalled. |
| 07:08.15 | Philomot | Same result. |
| 07:08.31 | tcsetattr | time's up, it doesn't take THIS long to run netstat. /me loses interest |
| 07:08.35 | bucky | sounds like sid fun |
| 07:08.40 | bucky | or ubuntu |
| 07:08.47 | Beretta | hrm.. silly queston probably |
| 07:08.57 | Beretta | but is /etc/vsftpd.conf marked readable? |
| 07:09.11 | Philomot | netstat results in: |
| 07:09.11 | Philomot | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 07:09.27 | tcsetattr | do it with the -p option |
| 07:09.33 | Philomot | vsftpd.conf is -rw-r--r-- |
| 07:09.36 | ThomasThumb | dpkg -l gives installed packages? |
| 07:09.38 | dpkg | No packages found matching gives installed packages |
| 07:09.49 | Philomot | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:21 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 3195/inetd |
| 07:10.02 | bucky | ThomasThumb: dpkg -la shows all |
| 07:10.05 | tcsetattr | there you go, there's an inetd ftp server running. |
| 07:10.11 | bucky | lists all |
| 07:10.14 | tcsetattr | also dpkg -l lists those that have been removed but not purged |
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| 07:10.29 | Beretta | yeah, he's runnig vsftpd fron inetd |
| 07:10.46 | ThomasThumb | I still have all kinds of Woody |
| 07:10.57 | smhar | hi all |
| 07:11.01 | Philomot | Hey, Smhar. |
| 07:11.32 | Beretta | i wonder if it'd be worth it to try running it standalone |
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| 07:11.40 | bucky | Beretta: if he's running it as an inetd then he needs listen=NO |
| 07:11.44 | Philomot | Wait a minute. |
| 07:11.48 | Beretta | oh |
| 07:11.50 | Philomot | I already said it's running standalone. |
| 07:11.54 | Philomot | in vsftpd.conf, listen=yes |
| 07:11.58 | Beretta | oh. sorry confused |
| 07:12.01 | tcsetattr | check your inetd.conf already! |
| 07:12.06 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: considering what problems you're having moving potato to woody to sarge, maybe you should install Sarge from scratch. During the period of time you've been trying to solve your upgrade problems you could have been running Sarge already reinstalled. |
| 07:12.22 | Beretta | if it's running standalone, I don't think inetd should be listening on port 21 |
| 07:12.31 | Beretta | is there an ftp entry left in inetd? |
| 07:12.35 | Beretta | er. inetd.conf |
| 07:12.41 | Philomot | Where is inetd.conf located? |
| 07:12.47 | ThomasThumb | HOw do you install sarge from scratch? |
| 07:12.51 | bucky | in /etc |
| 07:12.52 | tcsetattr | obviously there is, netstat wouldn't invent a listening socket that doesn't exist. |
| 07:12.53 | Beretta | /etc/inetd.conf |
| 07:12.54 | EdLin | !d-i ThomasThumb |
| 07:12.55 | dpkg | ThomasThumb, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 07:13.12 | bucky | !tell ThomasThumb abuot d-i |
| 07:13.16 | bucky | !tell ThomasThumb abuot di |
| 07:13.18 | Tchiak | i got a question for apache.. you guys got a channel for that? |
| 07:13.25 | bucky | !tell ThomasThumb about d-i |
| 07:13.26 | Philomot | Go to #apache. |
| 07:13.27 | Philomot | :-P |
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| 07:13.36 | liable | third times a charm :) |
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| 07:13.49 | bucky | Tchiak: you running debian? |
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| 07:13.54 | Tchiak | yes |
| 07:13.58 | Tchiak | 3.0 |
| 07:14.05 | Tchiak | apache2 package |
| 07:14.20 | bucky | what about it? |
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| 07:14.32 | ThomasThumb | will it leave /home alone? |
| 07:14.34 | liable | is apache2 even in woody? |
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| 07:14.54 | EdLin | ThomasThumb: you could back up /home |
| 07:14.56 | bucky | that's what i was thinking.. is it a backport Tchiak |
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| 07:15.16 | ThomasThumb | So it is going to erase the partition? |
| 07:15.30 | bucky | debian's apache root is in /var/www |
| 07:15.39 | ThomasThumb | I dont know about that. Sounds like time for a new computer. |
| 07:16.04 | smhar | I got a second computer today a amd Duran 2000 or something with 256 DDR ram and I am not sure if the performance will be better than my current atlon 1GHz with 384mb ram |
| 07:16.04 | liable | ThomasThumb: the installer will leave /home if its on a seperate partition, yes, pick edit the table manually. |
| 07:16.22 | smhar | if it ri\uns better then I will make it my main desktop |
| 07:16.22 | liable | !comfort Philomot |
| 07:16.23 | dpkg | There, there, Philomot. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 07:16.30 | ThomasThumb | It is not on seperate partion. I dual boot this computer |
| 07:16.36 | Philomot | Yay! Uh, can the bot install vsftp properly for me? :-S |
| 07:16.47 | liable | ThomasThumb: then backup /home |
| 07:17.04 | Beretta | Philomot, there's no entry for ftp in your inetd.conf ? |
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| 07:17.22 | Beretta | if there is, comment it out |
| 07:17.26 | Philomot | Okay. |
| 07:17.34 | liable | why i have no sound lol? |
| 07:17.35 | Philomot | Commented out. |
| 07:17.37 | Beretta | then restart inetd |
| 07:17.42 | tcsetattr | and HUP inetd when you change it. |
| 07:17.59 | Philomot | How do I HUP? |
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| 07:18.10 | Beretta | easy (for me) is just /etc/init.d/inetd restart |
| 07:18.22 | Philomot | Restarted. |
| 07:18.26 | Philomot | Then restart vsftpd? |
| 07:18.31 | Beretta | yah |
| 07:18.36 | tcsetattr | "reload" is equivalent to a HUP. "restart" is a full killing off and start up again, which is more disruptive |
| 07:18.43 | Beretta | ah |
| 07:18.50 | liable | stupid tvtime doesnt find my free tv channels.. |
| 07:18.52 | mahangu_ | i just download the deb31r0a i386 iso - does this include support for the ipw2200 chipset wifi driver? |
| 07:19.03 | Philomot | Well.. |
| 07:19.06 | Philomot | I kind of got an improvement. |
| 07:19.13 | Philomot | Now it says connection refused, rather than connection closed. |
| 07:19.29 | Beretta | it's a start =) |
| 07:19.30 | liable | mahangu_: sorry to say, but that is now the old stable as of 6 months ago.. |
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| 07:19.48 | Philomot | All right, it refuses both anon users and local users |
| 07:19.48 | tcsetattr | if you don't know what a SIGHUP is, you probably don't know what Connection refused means either. That means nobody's listening! |
| 07:19.48 | Philomot | . |
| 07:19.49 | mahangu_ | liable, thta was the most current on the torrent site i used |
| 07:19.58 | Philomot | I know what connection refused means. :-P |
| 07:20.05 | liable | mahangu_: then you should have gone to debian.org... |
| 07:20.12 | Philomot | It means the computer got the request, understod it, and says go away, we don't want none here. |
| 07:20.24 | Philomot | s/understod/understood |
| 07:20.36 | liable | !connection refused |
| 07:20.36 | dpkg | When a TCP connection (e.g. telnet somehost 80) gives the error "connection refused", it means that either the service in question is not running at all (apache has died), or that a firewall has rejected your SYN packet and sent back a rejection packet to you. It's a VERY CLEAR, EXPLICIT error message and ALWAYS means one of those two things. |
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| 07:20.46 | bucky | mahangu_: nope.. and anyway you'd have to make the driver with module-assistant after the install |
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| 07:21.00 | liable | Philomot: ^^ |
| 07:21.03 | Philomot | :-p |
| 07:21.05 | liable | mahangu_: then you should have gone to debian.org... |
| 07:21.05 | Philomot | Thank you. |
| 07:21.14 | liable | !d-i mahangu |
| 07:21.15 | mahangu | liable, sorry about that, i got my stuff from - http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r0a/i386/bt-cd/ |
| 07:21.15 | dpkg | mahangu, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 07:21.25 | liable | mahangu: ahh, ok. :) |
| 07:22.06 | Philomot | How come I keep getting packages that are dated 1904-01-05 at 01:18:23? |
| 07:22.06 | mahangu | liable, so it's current? |
| 07:22.07 | bucky | mahangu: did you get the netinstall iso? |
| 07:22.12 | liable | mahangu: yes |
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| 07:22.18 | Philomot | Or else 31948s in the future? |
| 07:22.20 | mahangu | bucky, i got both the net install and the first binary iso |
| 07:22.27 | liable | Philomot: so, look to the firewall i guess. |
| 07:22.30 | mahangu | i think ill use the first binary |
| 07:22.30 | Philomot | Er, 319482631 |
| 07:22.31 | streuner | mahangu: if the kernel of sarge supports it yes |
| 07:22.32 | bucky | great |
| 07:22.34 | Philomot | There is no firewall. |
| 07:22.38 | tcsetattr | and then there's the case of dumb client programs that don't use strerror(errno), and just print "Conection refused" for every connect() error, and "File not found" for every open() error |
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| 07:22.49 | mahangu | what kernel is in sarge? |
| 07:22.51 | liable | Philomot: then nmap it, and see if ftp service is running.. |
| 07:22.53 | Philomot | I'm told that debian does not come with a firewall and I know I have not installed any. |
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| 07:22.59 | mahangu | ive been told 2.6.x has support for my driver |
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| 07:23.00 | liable | 2.4.27 2.6.8 |
| 07:23.03 | Philomot | nmap? |
| 07:23.11 | liable | !nmap |
| 07:23.11 | dpkg | somebody said nmap was at http://www.insecure.org/nmap or a handy and useful security tool that will scan for open ports or able to determine the targets operating system in most cases. |
| 07:23.12 | konfuzed | hey has anyone here got an SLI video card working? |
| 07:23.14 | bucky | 2.6.8 if you type linux26 at the boot prompt |
| 07:23.14 | tcsetattr | start the daemon you fool! Connection refused means there is NOTHING THERE. |
| 07:23.16 | mahangu | liable, which one? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 07:23.29 | bucky | well it should do that by default now |
| 07:23.34 | liable | mahangu: both, 2.4 default, 2.6 if you ask it nicely :) |
| 07:23.35 | bucky | 2.6.8 |
| 07:23.46 | mahangu | liable, ask it nicely? how :) |
| 07:23.52 | Beretta | Philomot, what does ps aux | grep vsftpd show? |
| 07:24.01 | liable | linux26 at boot prompt |
| 07:24.07 | EdLin | Philomot: Debian comes with iptables, it just doesn't have a pretty firewall configurator built-in |
| 07:24.11 | mahangu | liable, at install prompt? |
| 07:24.21 | Philomot | Ah, so there is a firewall, but it's not fun to configure? |
| 07:24.25 | streuner | mahangu: Why are you in #ubuntu? |
| 07:24.28 | konfuzed | can debian use the pf.conf firewall? |
| 07:24.39 | liable | mahangu: put the cd in, boot and there will be a prompt. read your options, and look around :) |
| 07:24.43 | mahangu | streuner, im an ubuntu user |
| 07:24.55 | streuner | mahangu: If you want install wifi on your ubuntu system, check out #ubuntu or/and #wifi |
| 07:24.59 | mahangu | liable, thanks - have you got the md5sum of the first binary cd on hand? |
| 07:25.12 | Philomot | Heh, should I remove iptables and install shorewall? |
| 07:25.14 | bucky | Philomot: zless /usr/share/doc/iptables/examples/oldinitdscript.gz |
| 07:25.18 | EdLin | Philomot: almost all Linux firewall configurators are frontends to iptables. |
| 07:25.19 | mahangu | streuner, i want to install debian on another partition |
| 07:25.26 | liable | mahangu: no, wherever you got it does.. |
| 07:25.30 | bucky | shorewall uses iptables |
| 07:26.15 | konfuzed | are there any that use pf.conf by chance? |
| 07:26.30 | EdLin | konfuzed: pf is so far *BSD only |
| 07:26.37 | konfuzed | hhhmmmm oh |
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| 07:26.41 | Philomot | bucky: I see instructions to edit port forwarding in here, which I understand, but I do not see the ports in this file.. |
| 07:26.59 | Philomot | Wait. |
| 07:27.02 | Philomot | This is example. |
| 07:27.02 | liable | how do i edit an xml config file? |
| 07:27.12 | Beretta | since you are connecting to localhost, I don't see how a firewall is going to come into play right now |
| 07:27.13 | EdLin | liable: rm foo.xml |
| 07:27.21 | bucky | that's the stupid way to do it |
| 07:27.23 | konfuzed | anyone here use an SLI video card with debian |
| 07:27.25 | bucky | i love it |
| 07:27.31 | liable | EdLin: haha, no, really.. |
| 07:27.41 | tcsetattr | you can firewall localhost, if you're sufficiently perverse |
| 07:27.52 | liable | EdLin: its the first time i have seen one in debian.. |
| 07:27.54 | Philomot | .... True. |
| 07:27.56 | Beretta | yeah, but debian doesn't do anything that silly by default |
| 07:28.01 | Philomot | ftp localhost also results in connection refused. |
| 07:28.07 | Beretta | yeah |
| 07:28.12 | Beretta | I'm thinking your server isn't starting up |
| 07:28.14 | konfuzed | how well supported is it I wonder cause I can buy a new box in a couple of weeks. |
| 07:28.15 | tcsetattr | did he ever answer the ps |grep question? |
| 07:28.18 | Beretta | ps aux | grep vsftpd |
| 07:28.21 | Beretta | is it running? |
| 07:28.22 | Philomot | I did. |
| 07:28.25 | liable | Philomot: then it prolly isnt running... netstat -pantu |
| 07:28.30 | Philomot | Only thing returned is the grep ftp itself. |
| 07:28.39 | EdLin | liable: whoever invented user-edited XML configuration files is first against the wall when the revolution comes. |
| 07:28.39 | tcsetattr | start the daemon! |
| 07:28.40 | Beretta | okay, definately not running then |
| 07:28.45 | Philomot | I did start the daemon. |
| 07:28.47 | Philomot | Or tried. |
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| 07:29.03 | liable | EdLin: so are you saying i cant hand edit it? |
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| 07:29.13 | EdLin | liable: you can, but it will be a pain. |
| 07:29.17 | streuner | mahangu: s/#wifi/#wireless/ |
| 07:29.20 | Philomot | .... It just didn't listen. |
| 07:29.20 | liable | fuck. |
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| 07:29.36 | konfuzed | I've installed a pure-ftpd aswell |
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| 07:29.45 | mahangu | streuner, thanks |
| 07:29.50 | konfuzed | the config is a bit of a pain |
| 07:29.50 | Philomot | Should I try a different ftp server? :-S |
| 07:29.57 | Philomot | Actually.. |
| 07:30.03 | Philomot | That's not a bad idea, now that I realize why they weren't listening. |
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| 07:30.25 | mahangu | will i be able to install fully from the first binary cd? |
| 07:30.28 | mahangu | that's all i have atm |
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| 07:30.41 | fooz | oil changes are fun! |
| 07:30.42 | EdLin | mahangu: yes. You can always apt-get the rest from the net |
| 07:30.52 | mahangu | EdLin, thanks |
| 07:30.53 | Arsion | anyone here ever get cpanel to work on debian? |
| 07:31.02 | konfuzed | I wanted to set it up as Anonymous only read write create dir and not even pass it through the gateway router |
| 07:31.20 | Philomot | Where is pure-ftpd configuration file? Anyone know? |
| 07:31.21 | Philomot | :-S |
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| 07:31.31 | bucky | proftpd is brain dead to use |
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| 07:31.44 | bob2 | surely the cpanel people support cpanel? |
| 07:31.46 | konfuzed | oh /etc/pro-ftpd |
| 07:31.52 | bob2 | you give them money, right? |
| 07:31.53 | konfuzed | and /etc/default |
| 07:32.07 | Arsion | bob2: cpanel is still beta on debian |
| 07:32.14 | konfuzed | and /etc/default/pure-ftpd |
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| 07:32.20 | TiJay | hey emechs |
| 07:32.20 | TiJay | :) |
| 07:32.22 | konfuzed | oh /etc/pure-ftpd |
| 07:32.30 | TiJay | 23:28:22 › [ @Oomph ] I know a server |
| 07:32.30 | TiJay | 23:28:25 › [ @TiJay ] ;p; |
| 07:32.30 | TiJay | 23:28:25 › [ @Oomph ] its full of emechs |
| 07:32.31 | Arsion | bob2: thats why i was asking y'all if any of ya got it to install and work on debian |
| 07:32.36 | TiJay | and he gave me ur server :) |
| 07:32.38 | TiJay | *hihi( |
| 07:32.50 | TiJay | nice mechs guys |
| 07:32.53 | TiJay | keep up |
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| 07:33.17 | EdLin | fooz: I don't have a car, I ride the NYC subway and bus system. |
| 07:33.24 | bob2 | if you're going to use cpanel, there's little reason to use Debian |
| 07:33.26 | fooz | EdLin, well, do you change the oil on the subway? |
| 07:33.32 | bob2 | you might as well as use some system they'll actually support |
| 07:33.34 | fooz | and/or buses |
| 07:33.35 | konfuzed | well I basically change the oil in my computer but thats about it |
| 07:33.37 | Arsion | fooz: i dont have a car. i go to my fathers house and force him to drive me |
| 07:33.42 | fooz | geez |
| 07:33.48 | Philomot | .... I don't change my own oil. |
| 07:33.48 | Philomot | :-p |
| 07:34.10 | Philomot | .... :-( |
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| 07:34.17 | Philomot | pure-ftpd has the same problem as vsftpd. |
| 07:34.35 | bob2 | and that problem is...? |
| 07:34.37 | fooz | i've got two vehicles |
| 07:34.40 | Philomot | Connection refused. |
| 07:34.41 | Philomot | No matter the user. |
| 07:34.44 | fooz | i'll sell you one, cheap |
| 07:34.45 | bob2 | uh |
| 07:34.48 | Arsion | bob2: why is that? |
| 07:34.49 | fooz | hehe |
| 07:34.51 | Philomot | ftp localhost results in same. |
| 07:35.04 | fooz | Philomot, tell the ftp daemon to start and listen on the ftp ports |
| 07:35.08 | tcsetattr | what you mean to say is that switching ftp servers more often than you change your underwear will not solve the underlying problem that you don't know what you're doing. |
| 07:35.10 | Philomot | I did tell it to start. |
| 07:35.11 | bob2 | Philomot: so you read your logs, then used 'iptables -L -v -n' to check for broken iptables rules, then 'netstat -plnt | grep 21'? |
| 07:35.14 | Philomot | I can't find the config file. |
| 07:35.23 | fooz | ftp daemons usually don't need a config file |
| 07:35.27 | fooz | they're pretty brain-dead |
| 07:35.28 | bob2 | Philomot: if it's not starting, something is deeply wrong |
| 07:35.30 | konfuzed | the man pure-ftpd said I could -e -S I think to set it as anonymous only and writeable but I really couldn't find the place to set it in the config file and it was described as a switch for the command line |
| 07:35.35 | Philomot | Yes, I realize. |
| 07:35.35 | bob2 | Philomot: randomly picking other ftpds will not fix that |
| 07:35.46 | Philomot | .... Bah. |
| 07:35.49 | Philomot | I suppose you're right. |
| 07:35.53 | Beretta | hrm.. |
| 07:35.54 | Philomot | But what will? :-P |
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| 07:35.59 | Beretta | you are connecting to localhost right? |
| 07:36.01 | bob2 | Philomot: doing what I suggested? |
| 07:36.05 | fooz | maybe he has an entry like 207.46.198.60 localhost |
| 07:36.08 | fooz | in his /etc/hosts file |
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| 07:36.38 | bob2 | haha |
| 07:36.47 | fooz | that would keep it from working |
| 07:37.24 | Philomot | It doesn't, though. |
| 07:37.30 | Philomot | 127.0.0.1 localhost. |
| 07:37.37 | Beretta | hrm, Philomot, what are the logs saying? anything relevant? |
| 07:37.54 | Beretta | oh, and (just to humor me) can you ping 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 07:37.59 | fooz | Philomot, anyway, like they said, check your iptables rules, interfaces (make sure lo is up) and make sure no daemons are binding to port 21 (but somehow not listening/accepting) |
| 07:38.06 | liable | how the hell do you configure audio in tvtime? |
| 07:38.08 | Philomot | Yes, I can ping localhost. |
| 07:38.09 | bob2 | Philomot: 18:35:11 bob2 | Philomot: so you read your logs, then used 'iptables -L -v -n' to check for broken iptables rules, then 'netstat -plnt | grep 21'? |
| 07:38.41 | Philomot | I ran iptables -L -v -n and it looks fine, but that's most likely because I have no idea what the output meant. |
| 07:38.42 | Beretta | okay, if you can ping localhost, we know lo is configured. that's good |
| 07:38.44 | fooz | Philomot, also check that you're running 'ftp localhost' on a machine that you're trying to install the ftp daemon on |
| 07:38.47 | fooz | hehe |
| 07:38.50 | Philomot | And netstat -plnt | grep 21 had no output. |
| 07:38.58 | Philomot | And I am running ftp localhost on the same box. |
| 07:39.08 | Philomot | And I don't know what logs to check, so I can't say if they said anything relevant. |
| 07:39.08 | bob2 | um |
| 07:39.10 | Gnea | what about netstat -nap | grep 21 |
| 07:39.10 | fooz | Philomot, if you don't understand the iptables output, maybe you should start |
| 07:39.14 | bob2 | if netstat said nothing, you have lost |
| 07:39.19 | liable | Philomot: then the fucker *isnt* running... |
| 07:39.25 | tcsetattr | ask him if the daemon he's trying to use is actually running. Last time we asked, it wasn't. And his solution was to switch to a different one. |
| 07:39.30 | Philomot | netstat -nap | grep 21 also returns no output. |
| 07:39.31 | konfuzed | perhaps it would be better (for me anyway) to start pure-ftp from the local startup config file |
| 07:39.41 | bob2 | Philomot: then something is very fucked |
| 07:39.47 | Philomot | Obviously. |
| 07:39.53 | Gnea | Philomot: why don't you just install proftpd and be done with it? |
| 07:40.04 | Philomot | Because I'm already being dissed for switching servers? |
| 07:40.09 | bob2 | no |
| 07:40.16 | Gnea | heh |
| 07:40.16 | liable | HLP me plz get tvtime sound lol?! |
| 07:40.16 | bob2 | you were dissed for switching for no reason |
| 07:40.22 | bob2 | switching to one that works is not a bad idea |
| 07:40.27 | Philomot | .... It made sense with windows reasoning. |
| 07:40.28 | bob2 | liable: omgroflwtfbbq. |
| 07:40.35 | bob2 | windows != rational |
| 07:40.36 | fooz | the servers all work (more or less) you're just using them wrong, and switching to another when you can't make it work |
| 07:40.48 | fooz | it's not helpful |
| 07:41.02 | liable | hah |
| 07:41.06 | Gnea | Philomot: quit kidding around and stand up for yourself |
| 07:41.20 | bob2 | Philomot: this is a default debian install, I assume? |
| 07:41.26 | bob2 | ie no firewalls, no odd network settings |
| 07:41.28 | Philomot | Nah. A lifetime of experience means letting them get it over with will exhaust their supply quicky. |
| 07:41.31 | Philomot | Correct, bob2. |
| 07:41.46 | konfuzed | i haven't used debian before , perhaps someone could tell me which path/conf-file is best to put a customized startup command |
| 07:41.55 | bob2 | konfuzed: to do what? |
| 07:42.09 | konfuzed | perhaps it would be better (for me anyway) to start pure-ftp from the local startup config file |
| 07:42.15 | bob2 | no |
| 07:42.15 | Gnea | Philomot: sorry, i've missed most of the conversation, and due to the enormous amount of bullshit that i see you typing all over the place, it's difficult to figure out what you have and haven't tried yet |
| 07:42.21 | Beretta | Philomot, sorry if you already mentioned it, but what ftpd are you using now? |
| 07:42.27 | konfuzed | the man pure-ftpd said I could -e -S I think to set it as anonymous only and writeable but I really couldn't find the place to set it in the config file and it was described as a switch for the command line |
| 07:42.27 | bob2 | konfuzed: it has it's own init screipt or inetd setting already |
| 07:42.46 | Philomot | I just switched to proftpd at Gnea's recommendation. |
| 07:42.53 | bob2 | konfuzed: then find out how it runs and edit /etc/default/purestupidity or whatever the file is |
| 07:42.57 | Gnea | alright. |
| 07:43.02 | bob2 | konfuzed: all else fails, edit /etc/init.d/pureftpd |
| 07:43.02 | Beretta | okay, is there a /var/log/proftpd? (or similar) |
| 07:43.08 | bob2 | no |
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| 07:43.10 | Gnea | Philomot: first thing you wanna do is: ps axf | grep proftp |
| 07:43.11 | fooz | i don't stop at oil changes, I do my own engine/tranmission swaps and wiring |
| 07:43.12 | bob2 | it'd be daemon.log |
| 07:43.23 | konfuzed | yeah I looked in /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd and could figure out the set -e -S option |
| 07:43.28 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.32 | fooz | cars are so much like computers. more computer geeks ought to be car geeks (and vice versa) |
| 07:43.39 | Philomot | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:43.44 | Gnea | fooz: haha yeah |
| 07:43.54 | Gnea | Philomot: ok now try to ftp to localhost |
| 07:44.04 | konfuzed | also /etc/default/pure-ftpd I couldn't work that out for the config change |
| 07:44.09 | bob2 | konfuzed: then show us the config file in #flood or pastebin.ca |
| 07:44.09 | Gnea | Philomot: btw, anonymous user is turned off by default |
| 07:44.18 | Gnea | Philomot: as a security feature |
| 07:44.25 | bob2 | konfuzed: then show us some of these files |
| 07:44.27 | Philomot | .... I just figured that out myself. |
| 07:44.28 | Philomot | Thank you. |
| 07:44.32 | Gnea | cool |
| 07:44.33 | konfuzed | I havent changed the default config files yet |
| 07:44.37 | Gnea | np |
| 07:44.40 | Philomot | I logged in as a local user and I don't want anonymous logins anyway, thank you, Gnea. |
| 07:44.49 | bob2 | Philomot: output of 'ip a' and 'iptables -L -v -n' in #flood |
| 07:44.50 | Philomot | Seey'all later.. Sorry for bothering you. |
| 07:44.51 | Beretta | sweet |
| 07:44.54 | liable | is there a default file for the ftp daemon he's using? |
| 07:44.54 | bob2 | konfuzed: ok, now show us it |
| 07:44.56 | konfuzed | Philomot: are you saying your ftp is wokring now |
| 07:44.58 | Philomot | Yes. |
| 07:45.02 | Gnea | Philomot: i read ya the first time - have fun |
| 07:45.02 | liable | hah |
| 07:45.02 | Philomot | As of two or three seconds ago. |
| 07:45.09 | streuner | bingo |
| 07:45.20 | Gnea | problem solved. |
| 07:45.20 | Gnea | next |
| 07:45.21 | Gnea | :) |
| 07:45.30 | konfuzed | the /etc/default/pure-ftpd and /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd |
| 07:45.34 | fooz | an IRC client with VS.NET's GUI? why? |
| 07:45.41 | liable | that was like a global thinktank :) |
| 07:45.51 | konfuzed | so he was trying to log in as anonymous? |
| 07:45.58 | Beretta | nay |
| 07:46.05 | Beretta | couldn't get any ftpd to startup |
| 07:46.10 | Beretta | first was a conflict with inetd |
| 07:46.11 | Gnea | no, he was trying to login and any ftpd that he installed wasn't configured properly from the get-go |
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| 07:46.22 | bucky | we never did find out what version he's running |
| 07:46.23 | Arsion | bob2: why should i not use debian if i am to use cpanel? |
| 07:46.25 | konfuzed | well then what fixed philomot |
| 07:46.43 | Gnea | bucky: it doesn't matter, proftpd is proftpd |
| 07:46.54 | bucky | i mean distro |
| 07:47.04 | Gnea | he's using debian |
| 07:47.08 | bucky | proftpd is brain dead to use |
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| 07:47.13 | fooz | some time soon I need to pull apart my bike engine and adjust the valves |
| 07:47.25 | Beretta | i remember I had a hell of a time with vsftpd too |
| 07:47.26 | Gnea | bucky: i have a better idea |
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| 07:47.29 | Gnea | !beer bucky |
| 07:47.38 | bucky | haha |
| 07:47.41 | Gnea | bucky: now quit mulling over the past and move on :) |
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| 07:47.50 | bucky | fooz: ducati? |
| 07:47.56 | fooz | suzuki katana 600 |
| 07:48.05 | fooz | my first bike. I <3 it |
| 07:48.09 | Gnea | oh fun |
| 07:48.15 | Gnea | i don't even ride bikes |
| 07:48.28 | Gnea | ridden on a few, but never got into 'em |
| 07:48.29 | fooz | i just started a month and a half ago, or so |
| 07:48.32 | new2linux | Hi every one. can any one tell me please how would I find out about the name of wireless card I have on my laptop. I am using debian version 3.1 on a IBM think pad x31 laptop |
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| 07:48.45 | Arsion | lspci |
| 07:48.49 | fooz | only paid $2000 for mine :D |
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| 07:49.02 | nano_sor | how do i change all the permision of files and directories under a directory to 777? I tried to use something like chmod -r |
| 07:49.06 | Arsion | new2linux: use the command lspci . it will be in the output |
| 07:49.12 | liable | !laptop |
| 07:49.13 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 07:49.17 | liable | new2linux: ^^ |
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| 07:49.24 | Gnea | fooz: i'm not sure i want one either, but it might be fun :) |
| 07:49.27 | Beretta | nano_sor, chmod -R ? |
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| 07:49.53 | Beretta | chmod -R 777 directory_name |
| 07:50.06 | new2linux | Liable: sorry, I do not understand ^^ sign |
| 07:50.45 | Gnea | new2linux: it means "look up at the previous line(s)" |
| 07:50.45 | nano_sor | Beretta: thanks, i used a lower case 'r', and it gave me an error :( |
| 07:50.45 | fooz | Gnea, well, they're very different from cars. most people I know are scared to death of them. A girl at work was begging me to give her a ride for days, but when I took her outside and threw armor and a helmet on her, she started freaking out :D |
| 07:50.45 | phycho | how do i setup php in mysql on debian? (on package php4-mysql?) |
| 07:50.45 | Beretta | indeed |
| 07:50.45 | phycho | im having issues with it |
| 07:50.45 | phycho | ;/ |
| 07:50.45 | Beretta | glad to help |
| 07:50.55 | fooz | she rode anyway (freaking out the whole time) but it was fun |
| 07:51.05 | liable | new2linux: it means look up to previous lines.. the laptop thing was for you. |
| 07:51.10 | Gnea | fooz: ahahhahaha |
| 07:51.19 | Gnea | i hate fake bitches |
| 07:51.35 | fooz | "don't go fast don't go fast dontgofastdontgofastdontgofast" "We're only going 15mph" "I don't give a flying #$%@!" |
| 07:51.50 | Arsion | fooz: lol |
| 07:51.51 | fooz | aw she's not fake, she just didn't expect how it would be |
| 07:51.54 | Gnea | "are you driving?" "no." "then stfu" |
| 07:52.28 | Arsion | Gnea: lol remember hearing my dad tell my mother that alot |
| 07:52.36 | Gnea | HAHAHAHHAHAa |
| 07:52.39 | fooz | hehe |
| 07:53.02 | new2linux | thank you , that works I found it.....an other question please, how would I know the driver I am using....when I first installed it I had to use ipw2100, would that be the name of it? |
| 07:53.04 | fooz | i don't think i'd want to ride on the back of a motorcycle, seems scary. i'm content to ride on the front of the seat |
| 07:53.07 | fooz | hehe |
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| 07:53.53 | Gnea | new2linux: it might be something else - is that a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
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| 07:54.11 | Arsion | fooz: hmm, ride in the front with full control, or to ride in the back under the control of some crazed persons whim....i agree.. i'd take the front lol |
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| 07:54.26 | Gnea | fooz: i've only ridden on the back of one - it was great, but i learned the hard way to NOT wear shorts while riding |
| 07:54.38 | fooz | yeah.. i'd rather have *my* hands on the handlebars when I'm going 120mph |
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| 07:54.51 | Gnea | fooz: i went to get off and inside of my leg touched one of the exhaust pipes for a split-second |
| 07:54.52 | Squig | hi people |
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| 07:55.01 | fooz | ouch. haha |
| 07:55.02 | Arsion | Gnea: gah! thats the biggest mistake you can make on a bike |
| 07:55.08 | Gnea | :) |
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| 07:55.20 | fooz | i've never worn anything but pants, an armored jacket, a helmet, gloves and boots |
| 07:55.21 | evilkenshin | how do i mount a ipod? |
| 07:55.29 | fooz | evilkenshin, mac or windows ipod? |
| 07:55.30 | Gnea | naw, there are worse mistakes one can make, the scar didn't last very long anyway ;) |
| 07:55.32 | evilkenshin | windows |
| 07:55.48 | fooz | evilkenshin, it's the second partition (so if the ipod is /dev/sda, then it's /dev/sda2 you want to mount) |
| 07:55.49 | evilkenshin | fat file system |
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| 07:56.00 | evilkenshin | how do i mount things |
| 07:56.07 | Gnea | with the mount commande |
| 07:56.17 | fooz | evilkenshin, usually mount <device> <mountpoint>, type 'man mount' and read that |
| 07:56.19 | toblerp | is there a way to mount MTP-devices under linux? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Transfer_Protocol |
| 07:56.28 | Arsion | Gnea: my dad owns one now. had to seperate from my mother just to get one lol. Anyways, he wears leather chaps and jacket and still had an accident thanks to some gravel. Took 4 weeks for him to heal. |
| 07:56.56 | fooz | sand/gravel and water scare me. i still have yet to ride in the rain |
| 07:57.13 | fooz | i don't think I shall until I smooth out the low end on my carburettor |
| 07:57.16 | Daedalus_ | Has anyone tried to play with the Luminocity window manager? |
| 07:57.17 | Arsion | fooz: rain doesnt bother him. but gravel does lol |
| 07:57.27 | Gnea | Arsion: ouch - if it's not one thing it's another |
| 07:57.35 | fooz | Arsion, well I'm guessing he's got a cruiser or chopper? |
| 07:57.50 | konfuzed | ok so http://pastebin.ca/29519 has my pure-ftp inquiry |
| 07:57.59 | konfuzed | with the two config files |
| 07:58.00 | fooz | rain bothers me but, i'm in vegas, the road's either oily or wet and oily |
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| 07:58.08 | fooz | never just wet, or just dry |
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| 07:58.14 | konfuzed | the /etc/default/pure-ftpd-common and /etc/init.d/pure-ftpd |
| 07:59.01 | fooz | i hope i never have to lay my bike down while riding it.. but in case I do, that's why I've spent over $500 in safety equipment (and planning on more) :) |
| 07:59.01 | Arsion | fooz: ah hell, i cant remember the name of it. mind just isnt working in that area right now. but i do remember its a 1250cc engine |
| 07:59.20 | fooz | there's no sportbikes with exactly that displacement, so it's probably a cruiser or a standard |
| 07:59.51 | Arsion | fooz: it is a standard motorcycle |
| 07:59.56 | bob2 | !+info vsftpd |
| 07:59.58 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 08:00.08 | bob2 | konfuzed: do you care what server you use? |
| 08:00.14 | dpkg | vsftpd: (The Very Secure FTP Daemon), section net, is extra. Version: 2.0.3-1.0.1 (sid), Packaged size: 108 kB, Installed size: 308 kB |
| 08:00.21 | Arsion | fooz: oh god, you just reminded me of something |
| 08:00.25 | fooz | ? |
| 08:00.28 | evilkenshin | soo i would type "mount -t /dev/sda2 /dev/ipod" ? |
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| 08:00.33 | evilkenshin | b/c that doesnt work |
| 08:00.43 | Arsion | fooz: during my dad's cycle driving test, on a turn, he almost laid it down |
| 08:00.45 | fooz | evilkenshin, -t needs an argument after it |
| 08:00.59 | evilkenshin | uhh |
| 08:01.18 | fooz | Arsion, hehe. i took cycle school, which had its own test built-in.. but they trained everything we needed to know before-hand. |
| 08:01.35 | fooz | and the school gives you a get-a-free-motorcycle-license card for the DMV, you skip their test |
| 08:01.36 | Arsion | evilkenshin: -t means the type iso9660 for cd's ext3 for linux file systems etc etc etc |
| 08:01.37 | konfuzed | well not entirely but I do want it to be secure and support full anonymous write and directories and chroot but sll not required as it will only be available LAN side and I want it to be easy access from the lan |
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| 08:01.55 | konfuzed | actually I hope to have it easy access via IE for those bone heads |
| 08:02.04 | fooz | one guy did lay one down during the school, and another guy died on his bike |
| 08:02.05 | evilkenshin | new to linux dont know much |
| 08:02.06 | Arsion | fooz: nice. my dad had to pay $32 for his license |
| 08:02.12 | konfuzed | i will show them how to use ftp clietn but I doubt they can handle it |
| 08:02.17 | bob2 | konfuzed: vsftpd seems to support all that immediately |
| 08:02.21 | Arsion | fooz: eeew |
| 08:02.22 | fooz | but it was from a heart attack or stroke |
| 08:02.37 | fooz | not from lack of skill (he was an old, experienced rider) |
| 08:02.40 | Squig | evilkenshin: same here. just installed linux today for the first time |
| 08:02.41 | Arsion | fooz: ah, had pictured him losing control and an explosion |
| 08:02.45 | fooz | haha |
| 08:03.00 | konfuzed | bob2: i dont recall it commenting on anonymous in the info I looooked at |
| 08:03.07 | Squig | learning it is cool though |
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| 08:03.11 | liable | do you actually have to do something before you pull a cardbus card out? |
| 08:03.24 | fooz | liable, it's friendly to 'cardctl eject' it |
| 08:03.40 | Arsion | fooz: one day i plan on getting a cycle...but first, i need ta get a normal license. have had a permit for 5 years now lol. my dad just doesnt have the time ta teach me the last part i need. |
| 08:03.45 | phycho | anyone know how i can just remove mysql client and nothing else? |
| 08:03.50 | phycho | it insists on removing a lot of stuff with it |
| 08:03.52 | phycho | if i use apt-get remove |
| 08:03.53 | fooz | liable, you probably don't HAVE to, but some linux drivers (at least in 2.4) freak out when the card goes away |
| 08:03.56 | konfuzed | but I could go with vsftpd if that was essentially whiz bang easier and actually better than pure-ftpd run as stand alone frooom start config script |
| 08:04.08 | fooz | Arsion, ah.. well getting a license is easy enough (in the US anyway) |
| 08:04.12 | liable | fooz: ah, lemme man that. i just hardlocked my lappy when i yanked it. |
| 08:04.20 | fooz | liable, haha |
| 08:04.24 | bob2 | konfuzed: does indeedy |
| 08:04.39 | phycho | need to remove mysql client without removing mysql server! |
| 08:04.42 | bob2 | konfuzed: vsftpd was written from scratch recently to be secure and simple |
| 08:04.42 | phycho | anyone know how? ;/; |
| 08:04.42 | Arsion | fooz: until you get to perillel(i cant spell ;( ) parking |
| 08:04.49 | bob2 | phycho: uh, remove the mysql-clients package? |
| 08:04.53 | bob2 | phycho: dpkg -S /usr/bin/mysql |
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| 08:05.03 | fooz | Arsion, nah dude that's easy. if you go to your DMV's parking lot, they've got a practice area in the back, probably. use it in the middle of the night |
| 08:05.35 | Arsion | fooz: not here. the area that they use for that, is in the middle of a VERY busy street lol |
| 08:05.47 | konfuzed | id actually at some point like to get a developer I know to create a little .deb package to provide an alternate config for ftp that was basically an open anon ftp with chroot to a home/anon-ftp-mnt |
| 08:05.51 | fooz | Arsion, all you do is, pull up so your back right tire is right by the front cone, or the front car's back tire (depending on whether they use cones or tires) |
| 08:05.58 | Arsion | fooz: its what i get for living in the country lol |
| 08:06.12 | fooz | Arsion, turn the wheel all the way to the right.. back up slowly, turn the wheel straight.. |
| 08:06.24 | Arsion | fooz: they use cones, but they keep them with them until the test. |
| 08:06.28 | fooz | ah |
| 08:06.30 | fooz | bastards. |
| 08:06.34 | konfuzed | that way the chroot dir behaves like a mount partition and has hard limits for uploads that cant get around the system in anyway |
| 08:06.35 | Arsion | fooz: yeah |
| 08:07.01 | konfuzed | so the idea goes |
| 08:07.08 | fooz | Arsion, borrow some large objects (cones, TV dinner tables, tires) and practice parking between em.. it's easy |
| 08:07.18 | phycho | bob2 |
| 08:07.19 | phycho | that wont work |
| 08:07.20 | phycho | dependency problems prevent removal of mysql-client-4.1: |
| 08:07.20 | phycho | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:07.36 | konfuzed | for now I just want to run anon only ftp with dir-write and accesible only to internal lan |
| 08:07.40 | Arsion | fooz: only problem with that, i would need someone to take me lol |
| 08:07.42 | phycho | it tries to remove mysql server as well |
| 08:07.43 | phycho | :@ |
| 08:07.49 | phycho | how do i stop it trying to delete dependencies? |
| 08:07.51 | phycho | i want to leave thos |
| 08:07.52 | jmd | Can anyone tell me how to create a multi-volume tar archive onto CDs. |
| 08:07.53 | phycho | *those |
| 08:08.09 | Arsion | phycho: AFAIK you cant |
| 08:08.10 | fooz | Arsion, if you're in the country, you can probably steal a family member's car and practice driving around your own neighborhood without anyone noticing |
| 08:08.21 | meff | jmd: might wanna look into 'dar' |
| 08:08.23 | phycho | thats lame |
| 08:08.23 | konfuzed | shit my mouse stopped responding |
| 08:08.28 | phycho | =( on fbsd ports you can |
| 08:08.29 | phycho | how gay. |
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| 08:08.40 | Arsion | fooz: i would, but i'm NOT about to face my dad's wrath lol |
| 08:08.49 | fooz | ah |
| 08:08.53 | konfuzed | oh good just a loose plug |
| 08:08.54 | Arsion | fooz: with my luck, i would get into a crash |
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| 08:09.05 | bob2 | phycho: then you can't |
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| 08:09.13 | bob2 | phycho: why are you trying to force this? |
| 08:09.28 | jmd | meff: and where do I find that? |
| 08:09.29 | fooz | ah. well, my mum would let me practice, but i was a good driver. i'm a psycho driver now (in a good way) |
| 08:09.44 | meff | jmd: where do you find anything in debian? apt-get |
| 08:09.46 | fooz | i think i'd be at home on a racetrack or movie stunt set |
| 08:09.49 | karsten | lastlog ziupiu |
| 08:09.51 | Squig | I mounted a USB flash drive, I can see the data and copy it locally, but I cannot write anything to the drive. What am I doing wrong? |
| 08:10.02 | karsten | !lose me |
| 08:10.02 | phycho | bob2 - because i dont want to remove all the rest |
| 08:10.03 | dpkg | karsten: You Lose. |
| 08:10.05 | phycho | and have to reinstall them all |
| 08:10.12 | konfuzed | so any feedback on ---> http://pastebin.ca/29519 has my pure-ftp inquiry |
| 08:10.16 | phycho | bah.. ended up doing it anyway |
| 08:10.17 | phycho | pile of crap |
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| 08:10.42 | bob2 | phycho: ... |
| 08:11.02 | phycho | i just want to remove one piece of software |
| 08:11.09 | phycho | i dont see why it has to remove the dependancies as well! |
| 08:11.11 | fooz | i've got a little roadster and a sportbike, and i had a scooter (not a toy one.. a Honda Dio w/ opened up airbox) |
| 08:11.20 | bob2 | phycho: wtf |
| 08:11.22 | Arsion | mwuahahahaha my bet 2006-04-15 |
| 08:11.29 | bob2 | phycho: because mysql-server needs mysql-client to work |
| 08:11.33 | bob2 | phycho: why would you try to force it out? |
| 08:11.42 | fooz | omg i should update my opensolaris and try out ZFS. it is released now |
| 08:11.44 | phycho | because i want mysql client (old version) off |
| 08:11.45 | phycho | and 4.1 on. |
| 08:11.51 | phycho | without disturbing the 4.1 server |
| 08:11.55 | Arsion | fooz: zfs? |
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| 08:12.37 | fooz | Sun's new self-healing, snapshotting, compressing, storage-pool-using file system |
| 08:12.44 | Arsion | o.O |
| 08:12.45 | fooz | it's also 128 bit i guess |
| 08:12.49 | fooz | http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/zfs/ |
| 08:13.18 | bob2 | yay for GPL-incomptaible filesystems |
| 08:13.19 | fooz | sounds wicked. it's now under the same source license as OpenSolaris is, i believe |
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| 08:13.57 | Squig | I mounted a USB flash drive, I can see the data and copy it locally, but I cannot write anything to the drive. What am I doing wrong? |
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| 08:14.33 | dli | Squig, write protected? |
| 08:14.39 | phycho | hmm.. why when i install mysql 4.1 does it install libmysqlclient12? |
| 08:14.44 | Squig | that's what it says |
| 08:14.47 | phycho | shouldnt it only install libmysqlclient1.4? |
| 08:14.56 | Squig | i did chmod 777 /mnt/usbflash |
| 08:15.02 | Squig | that didn't help |
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| 08:15.10 | dli | Squig, it's hardware protect |
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| 08:16.30 | heuw | what happened to my /boot/vmlinuz and initrd.img that symbolic links in root directory point to? they're gone!!!! |
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| 08:16.50 | Squig | yes there is a little tab on the flash drive itself, but it's set to the unlock position |
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| 08:17.25 | dli | heuw, use grub, you don't need symbolic links |
| 08:17.44 | youssef | Hello. I cannot start gschem. Did I broke something ? |
| 08:17.46 | dli | SquareRt, play with it |
| 08:18.31 | heuw | dli: but the images are gone. grub doesn't seem to generate them, but only point to ones on the hard drive, which have disappeared |
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| 08:18.46 | youssef | Could not find a gschemrc file |
| 08:19.00 | konfuzed | ah gee philotin couldnt even just make it run - I just want to know which line in which of 3 files I should edit to put the Anonmous and dir write switches |
| 08:19.09 | dli | heuw, maybe, you need to "mount /boot" |
| 08:19.23 | cahoot | Squig: vfat and no umask set? |
| 08:19.45 | konfuzed | ill send ya an 85% cacao bar mmmmmmmm ---> http://pastebin.ca/29519 has my pure-ftp inquiry |
| 08:19.48 | konfuzed | ;^) |
| 08:19.55 | Squig | i didn't use that option |
| 08:20.08 | Squig | should i remount it using vfat? |
| 08:20.15 | tcsetattr | see if /proc/mounts shows it as rw |
| 08:20.26 | heuw | dli: all that's in /boot is some bitmaps, and the grub directory doesn't have all the usual list.1st, map, etc. |
| 08:20.32 | tchino | hello, i have problems with aterm and ¤-Symobol, under xterm i can sign that, when i start aterm allone, nothing happens when i type in AltGr+¤, when i start aterm in xterm, it comes that symbol: ?, what is wrong |
| 08:20.58 | dli | heuw, then, reinstall grub and kernel-images |
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| 08:21.33 | karsten | dpkg: reread partition table is hdparm -z (for IDE/ATA devices) or maybe 'blockdev --rereadpt' if you're lucky, or possibly something with /sys/bus/scsi/devices/*/rescan. We're all a little unsure about this, feel free to add. |
| 08:21.34 | dpkg | okay, karsten |
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| 08:22.34 | Squig | /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbflash vfat rw 0 0 |
| 08:22.42 | heuw | dli: thanks, i'll give it a try |
| 08:22.44 | Squig | that's the line from /proc/mounts |
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| 08:22.57 | Karat3 | hi |
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| 08:23.28 | dli | Squig you are trying with root, right? |
| 08:23.32 | Squig | yea |
| 08:23.36 | Karat3 | using debootstrap from a ubuntu cd to install sarge, is it a problem? |
| 08:23.38 | cahoot | Squig: try the info you get from /sg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 08:23.49 | cahoot | Squig: err /msg dpkg vfatrw |
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| 08:25.04 | Squig | cahoot, honestly i don't know what you mean by "/sg dpkg vfatrw" |
| 08:25.29 | cahoot | Squig: typingerror for /msg dpkg vfatrw |
| 08:26.05 | Arsion | fooz: interesting....might be more interested in it, if i actually understood it lol. I just got into linux this year and havent used anything but debian. Will be a while before I understand what's so nice about ZFS |
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| 08:26.55 | konfuzed | hhhhhmmmmm, i suppose those 6 pastebin views were mine |
| 08:27.00 | clinton | ZFS? is it after ext3fs? |
| 08:27.06 | tchino | when i want to take hold on my debian system from windows with putty, i get no error-messages, the windows only close, what are the right settings, and where can i adjust that putty always closed? |
| 08:28.00 | konfuzed | im goin for a walk |
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| 08:29.34 | tchino | has someone an idea |
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| 08:30.50 | Arsion | fooz: i do know one thing thou. i wish i had their 900+g hd lol |
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| 08:31.33 | bob2 | tchino: "putty always closed"? |
| 08:31.51 | Squig | cahoot: i have no idea what i'm doing. what do you mean by "/msg dpkg vfatrw"? |
| 08:31.57 | Beretta | I think he means when the connection is lost, by default, putty closes itself |
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| 08:32.00 | Arsion | tchino: i could help ya, but i've already got my putty open and working so cant look at it to tell ya |
| 08:32.02 | Beretta | the setting is in window/behavior |
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| 08:33.09 | tchino | bob2: yes, when i want to login over putty on my debian-server, i typed in my login-naem and my passowrd, then it closed, exists there a possibility, that it not alwasy closed |
| 08:33.49 | bob2 | I bet a windows channel would know more about that |
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| 08:33.53 | bob2 | tho putty is in Debian these days |
| 08:34.01 | Philomot | Hi there. How do I see what groups a user is in? |
| 08:34.12 | Beretta | groups username |
| 08:34.12 | cahoot | Squig: the idea is: you type that in your irc client and read the output |
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| 08:34.18 | Squig | lol |
| 08:34.19 | Philomot | Thought so.. |
| 08:34.20 | Philomot | TY. |
| 08:34.28 | Beretta | np |
| 08:34.34 | lfs | I fixed Debian |
| 08:34.38 | Philomot | candyman : candyman dialout cdrom floppy audio video plugdev |
| 08:34.41 | Philomot | Did I miss something? |
| 08:34.43 | lfs | It changed my name here though |
| 08:34.54 | Beretta | urm.. |
| 08:35.01 | Beretta | I don't think there is a right/wrong answer |
| 08:35.10 | Beretta | you put yourself where ya need to be |
| 08:35.37 | Philomot | Hey, Beretta.. |
| 08:36.01 | Philomot | With proftpd, how do I add users? I thought that it used the same user list as debian itself, but I useradd'ed and it turns out I was wrong. |
| 08:36.13 | Daedalus_ | Holy compile time, Batman! 36 hours and no end in sight... |
| 08:36.16 | Beretta | hrm.. I use vsftpd, so I'm not postive |
| 08:36.22 | Philomot | Meh, no fun. |
| 08:36.51 | tchino | Arsion: what settings do you have there? |
| 08:37.25 | Arsion | tchino: unable to check. got some stuff installing through ssh so cant reopen it to check. |
| 08:37.27 | Beretta | I think most ftpd read /etc/ftpusers for a list of accounts to deny |
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| 08:37.33 | Beretta | which is kinda misleading |
| 08:37.43 | Philomot | And /etc/ftpallow for whom to accept. |
| 08:37.44 | Philomot | But ... |
| 08:37.52 | marculix | hi chaps, after converting an .eps file using pstoedit to a .fig file, I'm wondering about the fact that the .fig file only contains the eps file is only refered within the .fig file (imported as image). I expected that the .eps will be fully converted as .fig. What's wrong? |
| 08:37.54 | Philomot | I added this user to ftpallow, restarted the service, and.. Nothing. |
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| 08:38.11 | Beretta | hrm |
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| 08:38.27 | Philomot | .... I think it's confused, though, because I tried diferent servers. |
| 08:38.32 | Philomot | And I don't know how to fix it. |
| 08:38.34 | Beretta | the manpages say anything about adding users? I'd just be badly guessing. I've never used that particular daemon |
| 08:38.41 | Philomot | Fair enough. |
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| 08:39.54 | Arsion | has anyone ever tried Cube Panel? www.cubepanel.com |
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| 08:40.28 | union_21 | mataleon1@hotmail.com, male 21 with cam |
| 08:40.46 | marculix | union_21: wanker |
| 08:40.55 | Phated | marculix: I think that's the point. |
| 08:40.57 | prjktdtnt | union_21: wrong room freak |
| 08:41.01 | tcsetattr | how is it that people think #debian is #netsex? |
| 08:41.14 | Beretta | it's not!?!? |
| 08:41.25 | Arsion | union_21: go away and get alife |
| 08:41.26 | Phated | #netsex is ---> thataway. |
| 08:42.00 | union_21 | mataleon1@hotmail.com, male 21 with cam |
| 08:42.21 | Beretta | looks like a bot to me |
| 08:42.23 | union_21 | wrong word muthafucka |
| 08:42.34 | Phated | Oooo. |
| 08:42.37 | Arsion | bot |
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| 08:42.45 | union_21 | go fuck ur mother or somethin |
| 08:42.46 | prjktdtnt | union_21 get the hell out |
| 08:42.47 | union_21 | ok |
| 08:42.54 | union_21 | biatch |
| 08:43.04 | Arsion | cant debhelper kick him or something? |
| 08:43.12 | union_21 | kick me out biatch |
| 08:43.13 | Phated | Nope. |
| 08:43.14 | prjktdtnt | uhh debhelper...kick please? |
| 08:43.19 | prjktdtnt | someone kick please! |
| 08:43.20 | nimak | time to sign that address up for spam |
| 08:43.22 | Phated | !ops union_21 is a twat |
| 08:43.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: union_21 is a twat |
| 08:43.24 | union_21 | fuck u |
| 08:43.38 | Phated | debhelper doesn't do kicks except in cases of floods. |
| 08:43.41 | union_21 | f-u-c-k u muthafuckAAAAAA |
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| 08:43.50 | Arsion | yeah!!!! |
| 08:43.52 | Phated | \o/ helix |
| 08:43.53 | nimak | yay |
| 08:43.54 | prjktdtnt | hey look he got the clue! |
| 08:44.05 | tcsetattr | too late now to get him to upload a picture for posting on lusers-who-try-to-have-netsex-on-geek-irc-channels.debian.net |
| 08:44.21 | helix | tcsetattr: feel free to /msg him |
| 08:44.26 | Phated | Heh. |
| 08:45.44 | Angel | hi |
| 08:45.44 | Angel | how can i repair my grub after i installed windows xp? |
| 08:45.58 | ekix | anybody know why `ls --color=yes` show directories with drwxrwxrwx with green background and blue text? :) |
| 08:46.13 | ekix | using the defaults(?) `eval $(dircolors -b) |
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| 08:46.46 | dli | Angel: use a debian installation, rescue booting with root=, and grub-install |
| 08:46.59 | ekix | if the permissions for a dir are drwxrwxr-x, the dir is colored bright blue on black as it should |
| 08:47.18 | ekix | this has changed just recently with sid, can't seem to find the cause of this |
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| 08:48.15 | ekix | di=01;34, so they should be bold blue w/ black background |
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| 08:48.26 | dondelelcaro | ekix: I'm not seeing that; regardless, dircolors is what would set it. |
| 08:48.41 | ekix | dondelelcaro, using sid? |
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| 08:49.26 | dondelelcaro | ekix: it's probably this, though: OTHER_WRITABLE 34;42 # dir that is other-writable (o+w) and not sticky |
| 08:49.50 | ekix | dondelelcaro, yep. that should be it. thanks alot :) |
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| 08:50.17 | ekix | dondelelcaro, where did you find the documentation for that? |
| 08:50.25 | dondelelcaro | ekix: in any case, dircolors --print-database; is your friend. |
| 08:50.34 | ekix | dondelelcaro, oh thanks :) |
| 08:52.38 | dondelelcaro | ekix: np |
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| 09:07.37 | tchino | exit |
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| 09:17.44 | yure | hy, if i have Centrino 1.73GHz processor, which cpu optimization should i use in kernel? |
| 09:18.20 | dli | yure: pentium-m |
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| 09:20.10 | poop | Shouldn't /dev/scsi appear when I hook up a firewire drive? |
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| 09:21.01 | yure | thanks dli |
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| 09:23.45 | twinsen | does anyone here know how to enable dma on one of my disc burners? |
| 09:23.53 | twinsen | *both of them |
| 09:24.05 | twinsen | hdparm -d1 doesn't work |
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| 09:25.28 | dli | twinsen, check whether it's enabled in kernel |
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| 09:29.28 | terry | fls |
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| 09:30.29 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 09:30.52 | dli | netman1, why do you need initrd? |
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| 09:31.02 | phycho | anyone in here been using spamassassin recently (with debian?) |
| 09:31.05 | phycho | get loads of weird ass errors |
| 09:31.14 | amorphix | I used to be able to place videos on my system using Noatun, but I recently reinstalled my system and now Noatun and other media players no longer play video. do I need to install something else? |
| 09:31.16 | phycho | Can't locate Mail/SPF/Query.pm in @INC |
| 09:31.17 | phycho | ;/ |
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| 09:31.21 | netman1 | dli: I don't need them, just wondering why they are not created anymore. |
| 09:31.23 | dli | phycho, I only used it once, a rootkit installed it for me |
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| 09:31.33 | amorphix | *place~play |
| 09:31.47 | dli | netman1, then, just don't use --initrd, and disable initrd in make menuconfig |
| 09:32.00 | phycho | lol |
| 09:32.10 | amorphix | like a library or some shit? |
| 09:32.23 | cahoot | probably some shit |
| 09:32.36 | phycho | yea |
| 09:32.40 | phycho | im googling atm |
| 09:32.44 | amorphix | ok |
| 09:32.49 | phycho | what would you guys recommend for anti-spam solution? |
| 09:32.52 | phycho | i hate the bloatware perl crap |
| 09:32.55 | phycho | especially on a VPS ;/ |
| 09:33.38 | amorphix | phycho: I find a properly configured postfix's and header and body checks most affective, but I also do my own regex filtering in Kmail |
| 09:33.53 | phycho | ah k |
| 09:33.55 | phycho | using exim here. |
| 09:34.07 | amorphix | ok |
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| 09:34.42 | dli | phycho I just use thunderbird :( nothing fancy |
| 09:34.59 | amorphix | spam is a real pain in the ass |
| 09:35.01 | phycho | might just make up a procmailrc |
| 09:35.07 | phycho | to ditch everything that i dont allow. |
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| 09:35.25 | phycho | gotta be a lot less load than perl spamd |
| 09:35.32 | amorphix | I been getting this new spam now from trojans/spam bots, same email different format, maybe 10x a day |
| 09:35.39 | phycho | any of u guys tried spamd? |
| 09:35.54 | phycho | nah i mean erm |
| 09:35.55 | phycho | dspam |
| 09:35.56 | phycho | haha |
| 09:35.59 | phycho | too early in morning |
| 09:36.05 | dli | amorphix, for individuals, it's hard to determine whether it's spam, but a large server, it's easier, because the same messages sent to many accounts |
| 09:37.58 | liable | yeah, but you get all those cheap sex life enhancing drugs.. :) |
| 09:38.04 | phycho | :D |
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| 09:38.56 | amorphix | hehe |
| 09:39.06 | dli | liable, yes, you couldn't check for pattern strings, because they never use viagra in it nowadays, |
| 09:39.14 | amorphix | its so cold here I can leave my butter outside the fridge because its colder outside than inside |
| 09:39.36 | amorphix | they use V|aagrra |
| 09:39.48 | amorphix | but you can still pattern match on their shit |
| 09:40.00 | amorphix | infact they make it easier for us ;-) |
| 09:40.08 | liable | amorphix: so your fridge is a heater? :) |
| 09:40.26 | dli | amorphix, really? sounds great |
| 09:40.28 | amorphix | hehe yeah I think its on its way out, its giving off heat and on constantly |
| 09:40.33 | kadigibox | you put butter int the fridge? |
| 09:40.39 | amorphix | sure |
| 09:40.43 | amorphix | dont you? |
| 09:40.45 | liable | kadigibox: you dont? |
| 09:40.46 | kadigibox | no |
| 09:40.57 | James5 | hm... ok, it had booted with an old kernel, presumably only the new one supported pts properly. Now I just need to fix the little snag that it didn't come back up when rebooted... :-( |
| 09:41.03 | kadigibox | are you supose to? |
| 09:41.04 | liable | kadigibox: do you live in the artic or something? |
| 09:41.09 | kadigibox | no |
| 09:41.11 | amorphix | I cut off as much as I need and keep it on a butter dish in the cupboard |
| 09:41.15 | dli | amorphix, I don't know to to filter viagra derivatives :( |
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| 09:41.21 | kadigibox | but I don't like butter as hard as a brick |
| 09:41.31 | amorphix | dli: you can do regex |
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| 09:42.00 | fairway | hi |
| 09:42.03 | amorphix | I tried to bake a loaf of bread rather than going to the shops this morning but it hasnt worked out |
| 09:42.06 | kadigibox | hi fairway |
| 09:42.20 | fairway | is it possible to use the thinkpad's screen with another computer? |
| 09:42.27 | dli | amorphix, but the spammer must be doing the same thing, and make sure it won't catch their new invention |
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| 09:42.32 | liable | amorphix: keep trying, homemade bread rocks once you get it right.. |
| 09:42.35 | kadigibox | I know how to make black bread but thats as close as I get |
| 09:42.59 | amorphix | dli: sure they think they are smarter, but regex is always smarter |
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| 09:43.03 | kadigibox | fairway, sure but not in another laptop |
| 09:43.22 | dli | amorphix, I mean, they know regex :( |
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| 09:43.53 | amorphix | I have one spammer/possibly a spam trojan which keeps on getting more and more random to get thru filters, now the emails are just garbage basically, no url or anything..complete waste of time |
| 09:44.05 | amorphix | maybe they get a kick out of it, who knows |
| 09:44.23 | fairway | kadigibox: hmm |
| 09:44.42 | amorphix | unless they sent totally random sentences and dont advertise anything, you can nearly always regex pattern filter their asses |
| 09:44.53 | dli | amorphix, I got several viagra thing in mail.yahoo.com, I just reported spam, after several times, it stopped |
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| 09:45.06 | amorphix | advertising = their undoing |
| 09:45.15 | Tchiak | how can i check what glib version i have? |
| 09:45.18 | kadigibox | fairway, im useing a toshiba laptop LCD screen for my desktop and it works great |
| 09:45.30 | amorphix | reporting is good if you can get their ISP or hosts |
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| 09:45.38 | dli | Tchiak, dpkg -s libc6 |
| 09:45.42 | amorphix | but often they use Chinese servers these days or spoof IP's |
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| 09:45.45 | fairway | kadigibox: where do you connect it? can you use the keyboard as well? |
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| 09:45.46 | kadigibox | it took me a bit to find out how to make it so I can plug it into VGA |
| 09:46.01 | kadigibox | keyboard is ps/2 |
| 09:46.08 | tss_ | Are there any programs to test the hardware (RAM / disk) ? |
| 09:46.17 | amorphix | mtest? |
| 09:46.24 | dli | amorphix, for mail.yahoo.com, the large number of users makes reporting very efficient |
| 09:46.45 | dli | tss_: memtest86 for ram, fsck for disk |
| 09:47.06 | amorphix | true |
| 09:47.38 | dli | tss_, of course, memtest86 would catch cpu-bus-ram errors |
| 09:47.53 | amorphix | kadigibox: did you hack that up? |
| 09:48.28 | amorphix | I did a memtest a while ago, took 8hrs+ |
| 09:48.51 | kadigibox | amorphix, actualy my friend did most of it |
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| 09:49.12 | amorphix | I have an laptop LCD |
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| 09:49.17 | dli | amorphix, I never got a faulty memory module, always faulty mobo |
| 09:49.17 | tss_ | as I understand it, fsck tests the file system integrity (probably ext2+ only); is there any way to test the HD _hardware_ thoroughly? |
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| 09:49.26 | amorphix | it snapped right off my HP Omnibook few weeks ago |
| 09:49.27 | kadigibox | after shocking myself 5 times I stoped doing that myself and let my friend do it |
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| 09:49.45 | amorphix | hehe |
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| 09:49.48 | dli | amorphix, lcd hinge broken down? |
| 09:49.52 | amorphix | yes |
| 09:49.58 | James5 | tss_: dd will actually check a fair bit (the firmware checks checksums as it reads) |
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| 09:50.26 | James5 | "dd if=/dev/hda of=/dev/null bs=1M" or similar |
| 09:50.49 | dli | amorphix, my current dell inspiron 5150 also got cracked hinges, don't know how long it would last |
| 09:51.05 | kadigibox | anyway I have a cheep 15in LCD cause the laptop was only 1$ on ebay |
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| 09:51.43 | tss_ | James5: what's the significance of the block size argument? does it matter to me at all? |
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| 09:52.42 | kadigibox | I gotta see if I can find a broken laptop that has a 17in |
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| 09:53.56 | James5 | tss_, not really; using too small a block will slow it down a lot, that's all |
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| 09:54.12 | amorphix | laptop hinges are so fragile, this is my 2nd laptop to go |
| 09:54.26 | James5 | 1G will eat lots of RAM or swap, 1k will waste more time on syscall overhead; 1M is probably reasonable |
| 09:54.27 | amorphix | now I have a Toshiba Portege, these seem much sturdier |
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| 09:54.47 | amorphix | no, its a Toshiba Tecra |
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| 09:55.38 | tss_ | James5: I can just do this on a running system and look at any errors, right? |
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| 09:55.44 | dli | amorphix, really, I heard too many bad storied about toshiba |
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| 09:56.01 | dli | amorphix, overheating is quite common |
| 09:56.02 | appleman | http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl/4777 - Is anyone able to help? |
| 09:56.40 | dpm | hi. does anyone know a good GNOME cvs client with GUI? |
| 09:57.06 | tss_ | /boot/memtest86.bin should just be available in the grub menu when I reboot, right? |
| 09:57.29 | dli | tss_ just do an "update-grub" to make sure |
| 09:57.29 | James5 | tss_, probably not in the menu unless you put it there, but you could select it as "kernel /boot/memtest86.bin" |
| 09:58.07 | tss_ | Thanks |
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| 10:00.18 | fairway | hi |
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| 10:00.25 | fairway | could anyone help me uninstall grub under linux? |
| 10:00.38 | appleman | Are you using Debian? |
| 10:00.51 | fairway | yesw |
| 10:00.53 | fairway | yes |
| 10:01.18 | appleman | try running 'apt-get remove grub' |
| 10:01.28 | fairway | ah yes |
| 10:01.38 | fairway | thx |
| 10:02.00 | appleman | Or maybe, 'aptitude remove grub' |
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| 10:02.12 | appleman | That will promt to also remove unused packages. |
| 10:02.34 | fairway | ah |
| 10:02.35 | fairway | ok |
| 10:02.36 | fairway | alright |
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| 10:03.41 | Elrond` | Any way to get complete access to a ntfs-drive from linux? really need to be able to change/remove files on my other hard drives |
| 10:03.59 | dli | Elrond`, I heard about catalyst |
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| 10:04.20 | appleman | elrond: I think the 2.6 kernel allows that sort of access to NTFS... |
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| 10:04.31 | Elrond` | dli: whats catalyst? |
| 10:04.39 | dli | Elrond`, but never tried, apt-get install ntfstools |
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| 10:05.23 | dli | !ntfs |
| 10:05.23 | dpkg | [ntfs] Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
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| 10:06.04 | Elrond` | thanks |
| 10:06.07 | dli | Elrond`, sorry, ram error here, it's captiventfs |
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| 10:15.05 | dpm | hi. does anyone know a good GNOME cvs client with GUI? |
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| 10:16.45 | ubik` | dpkg, gcvs |
| 10:16.53 | ubik` | ehm |
| 10:16.57 | ubik` | dpm, gcvs :< |
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| 10:18.19 | dpm | thx, ubik. I'll try that now |
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| 10:24.47 | karsten | Is there any particularly sane way to do a run-once-only script, happening at or shortly after boot, w/ an existing infrastructure under SysV init, cron, at, etc.? |
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| 10:26.20 | dpm | ubik, I've just tried gcvs. Works like a charm, shame it is not still ported to GTK+2, but apart from looking ugly, it works perfectly. Do you know of anyother methods of accesing a local cvs server apart from the command line? Maybe with a web browser interface or so? |
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| 10:26.47 | mahangu | i ran the debian 3.1 install with the linux26 boot option |
| 10:26.52 | mahangu | it didn't find my wifi driver though |
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| 10:26.58 | mahangu | ipw2200 intel chipset |
| 10:27.02 | mahangu | hi liable |
| 10:27.23 | mahangu | any ideas? |
| 10:27.27 | Eulex | mahangu, that one requires an open source driver coupled with a proprietary firmware |
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| 10:27.35 | dli | mahangu, you need a kernel |
| 10:27.39 | Eulex | therefore it can't be included on the install cd |
| 10:27.42 | mahangu | Eulex, i was told as of 2.6 it;s in the kernel |
| 10:27.50 | dli | mahangu, 2.6.14 |
| 10:27.59 | drasko | Hi all. I just downloades and burned debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1, but it wont boot when I restart computer. What is wrong? |
| 10:28.00 | mahangu | dli, how can I go about getting that? |
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| 10:28.12 | mahangu | drasko, check the md5sum of the cd |
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| 10:28.17 | Eulex | mahangu, as of 2.6.14 it's in the kernel, but you need to get the firmware from ipw2200.sf.net after installing |
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| 10:28.40 | drasko | mahangu, how to do this? |
| 10:28.46 | mahangu | Eulex, oh right - it's my only access to the net though, how can I go about it |
| 10:28.51 | mahangu | drasko, md5sum <filename> |
| 10:28.52 | dli | mahangu, go to http://www.kernel.org , download linux-2.6.14.2.tar.bz2 |
| 10:29.04 | Eulex | mahangu, also, the debian installer doesn't have the 2.6.14 kernel |
| 10:29.20 | dli | mahangu, go to ipw2200.sf.net , you will find the firmware and where to put it |
| 10:29.52 | Eulex | mahangu, I'd download the first debian cd and install it, then get the ipw2200 driver and its firmware |
| 10:30.04 | mahangu | Eulex, i have it installed already |
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| 10:30.10 | mahangu | on my other partition |
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| 10:30.26 | Oky0nus | Hi |
| 10:30.43 | Eulex | mahangu, oh, I assumed the install didn't succeed... |
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| 10:30.54 | mahangu | Eulex, it did, but it didn't load x |
| 10:31.06 | mahangu | i apt-get(ted) gnome-core |
| 10:31.11 | mahangu | but startx wont work |
| 10:31.16 | Eulex | mahangu, that's a completely different issues |
| 10:31.27 | mahangu | Eulex, i understand |
| 10:31.31 | Guerin | !tell mahangu about set up x |
| 10:31.33 | mahangu | as long as I get net on that partition, im good |
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| 10:31.46 | mahangu | dli, http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/patch-2.6.14.2.bz2 <-- is that the file? |
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| 10:32.02 | Eulex | mahangu, no, you don't need to do that |
| 10:32.18 | Eulex | mahangu, go to ipw2200.sf.net and download the ipw2200 driver and its firmware |
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| 10:32.31 | dli | mahangu, since you are asking, no, download the file linux-2.6.14.2.tar.bz2 |
| 10:32.59 | Eulex | along with ieee80211 stuff, if the version of ipw2200 you choose needs it |
| 10:33.01 | dli | Eulex, I think it's better to use 2.6.14 :( |
| 10:33.21 | Eulex | dli, why are you telling a newbie to use a bleeding-edge kernel |
| 10:33.23 | Eulex | dli, no |
| 10:33.30 | dli | Eulex, instead of guiding through ieee and ipw2200 packages |
| 10:33.45 | dli | Eulex, it's stable according to kernel.org |
| 10:33.56 | dli | Eulex, unstable according to debian.org |
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| 10:34.23 | mahangu | dli, if i install that 2.6.14 kernel, do i still need the firmware? |
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| 10:34.25 | Eulex | dli, yep. there are issues with that new kernels. you can't escape that. |
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| 10:34.29 | tss_ | Is booting from a CD the only way to fsck the / file system? |
| 10:34.40 | Eulex | mahangu, you will need the firmware whatever you do |
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| 10:35.32 | mahangu | after that, i boot in to debian |
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| 10:35.42 | mahangu | do tar xfzv <filename> ? |
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| 10:35.44 | dli | mahangu, yes, get 2.6.14, and enable ipw2200 in it, AND download the firmware from ipw2200.sf.net |
| 10:35.45 | Eulex | mahangu, compiling a kernel is not a trivial thing. just so you'll know. |
| 10:35.56 | mahangu | Eulex, yeah I've been told |
| 10:36.01 | mahangu | but that's an experimental partition |
| 10:36.04 | mahangu | im willing to muck it up |
| 10:36.08 | dli | mahangu, tar jxvf linux-2.6.14.2.tar.bz2 |
| 10:36.18 | mahangu | dli, thanks |
| 10:36.23 | mahangu | then make install? |
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| 10:36.37 | Eulex | mahangu, better find a tutorial on how to compile a kernel the debian way |
| 10:36.44 | dli | mahangu, using drivers in kernel is the easiest way for me:) |
| 10:36.52 | dli | !kp |
| 10:36.52 | dpkg | well, kp is To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package build-essential" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz or when it bitches, rm -rf stamp-* debian before you run it again, or ask me about 'make-kpkg' and 'kp mantra', or http://newbiedoc.sf.net/, or (read Rationale.gz in the doc directory too) |
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| 10:37.34 | mahangu | ok |
| 10:38.30 | mahangu | doesnt that apt-get just get me stuff I _need_ to compile a kernel? |
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| 10:38.57 | Eulex | mahangu, it does, you'll then have to compile the kernel yourself |
| 10:39.04 | mahangu | Eulex, the syntax? |
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| 10:39.52 | tss_ | I'm not sure if there are any advantages to compiling the kernel "the debian way", unless you are going to be installing it on a bunch of machines, but even then, you could just copy files. |
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| 10:40.24 | dli | mahangu, you Start with "make menuconfig" in the kernel source directory linux-2.6.14.2 after tar jxvf |
| 10:40.26 | Eulex | mahangu, zcat /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz|less |
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| 10:40.50 | vulture | tss_: packages that depend on certain kernel versions will be properly satisfied by a real debian kernel.. for example. |
| 10:40.52 | Eulex | tss_, the big advantage is that dpkg will keep track of your kernels. |
| 10:41.07 | liable | bah, suspend2 doesnt play nice in 2.6.14. |
| 10:41.22 | mahangu | how can I check the kernel version on a system? |
| 10:41.23 | dli | mahangu, your trouble is "make menuconfig", make a cup of coffee, and take your time |
| 10:41.30 | liable | mahangu: uname -r |
| 10:41.35 | JmGV | is it possible to update the kernel form 2.4x to 2.6.x using apt-get? |
| 10:41.38 | dli | mahangu, or "uanme -a" |
| 10:41.41 | JmGV | or must i compile it |
| 10:41.43 | liable | JmGV: yes |
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| 10:41.58 | Eulex | JmGV, just apt-get the new kernel |
| 10:42.03 | JmGV | liable: I havent be able to do it |
| 10:42.04 | dli | JmGV: yes, apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 or kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 10:42.11 | JmGV | umm |
| 10:42.21 | liable | JmGV: apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6 |
| 10:42.22 | JmGV | okey.. but.. does it modife lilo.conf |
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| 10:42.27 | tss_ | It's probably better to start with some default debian kernel .config, and then change things from there |
| 10:42.32 | JmGV | or must i change it by hand? |
| 10:42.44 | dli | JmGV: since you are asking, apt-get install grub;apt-get -f remove lilo |
| 10:42.44 | liable | JmGV: no. use grub for automagic goodness :) |
| 10:42.55 | JmGV | i dont like grub |
| 10:43.00 | JmGV | i ratter lilo |
| 10:43.05 | liable | JmGV: then deal with it.. |
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| 10:43.10 | JmGV | oki |
| 10:43.13 | Eulex | JmGV, why? |
| 10:43.14 | JmGV | thanks |
| 10:43.26 | dli | JmGV: it's simple, if you don't ask questions, use whatever, if you asking lilo-howto, please use grub |
| 10:43.32 | JmGV | Eulex: i use it from the begining. I feel more confortable with lilo |
| 10:43.35 | JmGV | i understand lilo.conf |
| 10:43.42 | tss_ | JmGV: grub has a lilo-like GUI login now (I think it used to be command line only, that's why some people hate it) |
| 10:44.05 | liable | shit, it doesnt get much easier than grub. |
| 10:45.14 | tss_ | OK, asking for 2nd time: is it possible to fsck / without rebooting from CD (some Live Linux or something) |
| 10:45.20 | liable | suspend2 folks, and getting ifaces up afterwards. anyone have good stories? |
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| 10:45.35 | liable | using hibernate package.. |
| 10:46.52 | Eulex | tss_, iirc it is possible to remount read-only and then fsck |
| 10:47.01 | JmGV | i use lilo with vi |
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| 10:47.26 | rking | what would be an insanely expensive liquor? i've got someone that said they're going to buy me something, and i want to say something like, "you're getting me a bottle of 35 year old ___ Scotch? how did you know??" |
| 10:47.58 | brosioz | kde3.4 are in debian testing ? |
| 10:48.00 | liable | jygge: wtf are you asking about lilo if you use it and are comfortable with it? |
| 10:48.05 | JmGV | brosioz: yes |
| 10:48.11 | Phated | rking: Vodka, mebbe? |
| 10:48.23 | liable | JmGV: wtf are you asking about lilo if you use it and are comfortable with it? |
| 10:48.46 | rking | Phated: that would depend on brand. i once downed a half a bottle of $15 Vodka (probably still brain-damaged from it, methinks) |
| 10:48.50 | mahangu | dli, after i install the kernel, i have to compile ipw |
| 10:48.52 | mahangu | and do insmod? |
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| 10:49.03 | Phated | rking: HEH. |
| 10:49.09 | pihhan | hi |
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| 10:49.11 | liable | !insmod |
| 10:49.12 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 10:49.12 | brosioz | wowww |
| 10:49.13 | brosioz | :D |
| 10:49.22 | dli | mahangu, if you make it a module, yes, you need "modprobe ipw2200" |
| 10:49.23 | pihhan | i have a question about network setting |
| 10:49.42 | dli | mahangu, or you can make it built-in, then, you don't need modprobe |
| 10:49.43 | mahangu | dli, sorry, imean the firmware |
| 10:49.49 | mahangu | not the driver |
| 10:49.54 | pihhan | i have script in /etc/interface/if-up.d/script |
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| 10:50.06 | dli | mahangu, no, just copy it to the folder |
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| 10:50.15 | pihhan | but its not active when i do ifup eth0 |
| 10:50.16 | liable | vodka++ |
| 10:50.17 | tss_ | mahangu: if you are compiling the kernel for the first time, and configuring it extensively, chances are, it won't boot |
| 10:50.19 | dli | ensure that the firmware is in the correct place: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware for hotplug or /etc/firmware for legacy load. |
| 10:50.34 | valdyn | pihhan: the directory /etc/interface does not exist in debian |
| 10:50.41 | mahangu | tss_, yeah i figured - it's my other partition |
| 10:50.59 | pihhan | valdyn, ok, its /etc/interfaces |
| 10:51.08 | pihhan | but still its not executen on ifup |
| 10:51.08 | valdyn | pihhan: nope |
| 10:51.46 | pihhan | valdyn, install ntp-server or bridge utils, and it will be created |
| 10:51.48 | liable | i could do with a bloody mary.. |
| 10:51.54 | valdyn | pihhan: nope |
| 10:51.56 | mahangu | dli, ok, im about to reboot and try it - after the kernel compiles, how can I get it to boot from that? |
| 10:51.57 | dli | valdyn, it does |
| 10:52.06 | valdyn | dli: hell no |
| 10:52.12 | pihhan | see man 5 interfaces, its there |
| 10:52.21 | pihhan | valdyn, what do you mean by nope? |
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| 10:52.34 | dli | mahangu, have you don't with make menuconfig , and make-kpkg kernel-image ? |
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| 10:52.46 | valdyn | pihhan: i mean NO, /etc/interf* does not exist in debian. |
| 10:52.50 | mahangu | dli, ? |
| 10:52.54 | liable | mahangu: why, thankyou, pity its a virtual one.. :( |
| 10:52.56 | mahangu | i didnt get that, sorry |
| 10:53.01 | valdyn | pihhan: *maybe* you're doing something stupid, maybe you really mean /etc/network/ |
| 10:53.02 | dli | mahangu, sorry, "have you done with" |
| 10:53.12 | mahangu | dli, im gonna have to reboot and see |
| 10:53.14 | pihhan | valdyn i have sarge, and there is directory /etc/interfaces/if-*.d |
| 10:53.18 | hebfftijd | does something exist as frontpage but for linux |
| 10:53.28 | pihhan | valdyn, see your man page for interfaces please |
| 10:53.44 | valdyn | !test |
| 10:53.44 | pihhan | valdyn, i know what do you mean, i mean something diferent |
| 10:53.44 | dpkg | Yes, valdyn, you're still online. |
| 10:53.59 | valdyn | !find /etc/interfaces sarge |
| 10:54.05 | rAz_ | is that any kernel option to set Bfore using vwmare ? |
| 10:54.07 | dli | mahangu, if you have compiled and installed the new kernel, and have the firmware installed, yes, you may reboot now |
| 10:54.26 | rAz_ | vmware* sorry |
| 10:54.26 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/interfaces' returned no results. |
| 10:54.26 | mahangu | dli, im writing down your instructions _before_ i boot and try all this |
| 10:54.28 | dli | !find /etc/interfaces etch |
| 10:54.36 | mahangu | after i compile the kernel, how do I install? |
| 10:54.36 | valdyn | pihhan: see what dpkg knows.. |
| 10:54.37 | JmGV | what is the difference between linux-image-2.6.14-1-686 and kernel-image-2.6.14-1-686? |
| 10:54.44 | hebfftijd | does something exist as frontpage but for linux |
| 10:54.52 | rAz_ | mahangu, dpkg -i <kernelpackagedeb> |
| 10:54.55 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/interfaces' returned no results. |
| 10:54.56 | dli | mahangu, you need to compile it before rebooting |
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| 10:55.07 | tss_ | What kind of overhead does VMWare have on CPU (not disk) - intensive tasks? |
| 10:55.19 | JmGV | what is the difference between linux-image-2.6.14-1-686 and kernel-image-2.6.14-1-686? |
| 10:55.37 | hebfftijd | need a wysiwig for making internetsites (noob) |
| 10:55.51 | valdyn | JmGV: the 1st one exists |
| 10:56.01 | dli | valdyn, I fount it in ntp-server |
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| 10:56.14 | JmGV | the second one too |
| 10:56.30 | JmGV | let me see |
| 10:56.30 | dli | hebfftijd, anything in openoffice? what about mozilla? |
| 10:56.38 | valdyn | dli: ntp-server makes a file in /etc/network/if-up.d/ |
| 10:56.47 | JmGV | okey the other is kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 10:56.57 | hebfftijd | dli you mean |
| 10:56.59 | JmGV | what is the different between both |
| 10:57.43 | liable | JmGV: where did you find kernel-image-2.6.14? |
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| 10:58.02 | liable | hebfftijd: nvu |
| 10:58.19 | hebfftijd | nvu oke |
| 10:58.36 | hebfftijd | bluefish i still a littlebit to difficult |
| 10:59.04 | hebfftijd | liable thx |
| 10:59.06 | tss_ | hebfftijd: I didn't like nvu when I tried it, ended up using vim |
| 10:59.11 | liable | hebfftijd: np |
| 10:59.13 | JmGV | kernel-image-2.6-686 - Linux kernel 2.6 image on PPro/Celeron/PII/PIII/P4 machines - transition package |
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| 10:59.21 | JmGV | okey.. it is a trtansition package |
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| 10:59.28 | JmGV | I am already installing |
| 10:59.53 | hebfftijd | tss_ i know you can use vim but as i mentionned i have still to learn a lot |
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| 11:00.36 | hebfftijd | debian doesn't have nvu itself |
| 11:00.55 | liable | hebfftijd: not in sarge |
| 11:01.00 | liable | !info nvu |
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| 11:01.06 | dpkg | nvu: (Complete Web Authoring System), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0-1 (sid), Packaged size: 8301 kB, Installed size: 25097 kB |
| 11:01.11 | tss_ | hebfftijd: I know; I'm just saying I didn't like nvu, if you are interested in opinions. Mozilla has a composer |
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| 11:01.13 | liable | !info nvu etch |
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| 11:01.45 | liable | hebfftijd: or etch, but there are debs out there.. |
| 11:02.05 | JmGV | the most similiar IMHO is mozilla |
| 11:02.05 | hebfftijd | liable etch the first time i heard of it |
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| 11:02.18 | liable | hebfftijd: testing.. |
| 11:02.18 | tss_ | hebfftijd: I'd prefer to use WYSIWYG too, but couldn't find anything that worked for me |
| 11:02.28 | JmGV | tss_: mozilla composer |
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| 11:02.44 | wireddd | ewww wysiwyg |
| 11:02.52 | tss_ | JmGV: I mentioned it earlier to hebfftijd |
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| 11:02.56 | liable | noy l33t |
| 11:02.56 | hebfftijd | tss_ i'm looking at it know (mozilla |
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| 11:03.18 | JmGV | tss_: okey.. i only read some lines :-) sorry |
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| 11:04.51 | tss_ | over the years, HTML developed into a very stupid and complicated thing |
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| 11:05.23 | dli | tss_, what about xml? it sounds stupid also |
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| 11:06.44 | tss_ | dli: I have no real opinion as to whether xml is stupider than html |
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| 11:10.33 | nkuttler | how did html develop into something complicated? i can't see how it changed much since the release of 4.0 in the mid-nineties... |
| 11:11.27 | nkuttler | ah, gone. wysiwyg users... |
| 11:11.57 | pihhan | valdyn, have you tried dpkg -L ntp-server or dpkg -L bridge-utils? |
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| 11:12.42 | cast | out of curiosity..should i listen to the guy that wrote /etc/init.d/iptables? |
| 11:12.47 | pihhan | valdyn, please, read manpage on IFACE OPTIONS, below up script |
| 11:13.18 | pihhan | cast, its removed since sarge AFAIK |
| 11:13.25 | pihhan | cast, it was present in woody |
| 11:13.44 | valdyn | pihhan: one quote from there: /etc/network/if-<option>.d/ |
| 11:14.10 | cast | pihhan: the docs advising you to not use it? or /etc/init.d/iptables its self? |
| 11:14.17 | pihhan | so, is here anyone who is using interface up scripts from /etc/interfaces? |
| 11:14.24 | valdyn | pihhan: i dont think /etc/interfaces ever existed in debian |
| 11:14.56 | nkuttler | pihhan: do post-up scripts count? |
| 11:15.17 | pihhan | cast, the script itself is warning about is use and does not recommend it |
| 11:15.27 | pihhan | valdyn, ah, sorry then, you are right |
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| 11:16.04 | pihhan | someone should report bugreport to ntp-server packager |
| 11:16.17 | pihhan | because he has /etc/interfaces there |
| 11:16.20 | philo | spricht hier jemand deutsch und kann mir mit nem Problem madwifi-wpa weiterhelfen? |
| 11:16.47 | valdyn | !de |
| 11:16.47 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 11:16.49 | nkuttler | pihhan: no, he does not |
| 11:17.02 | nkuttler | pihhan: what release are you talking about? |
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| 11:17.54 | nkuttler | pihhan: oh, you mean /etc/interfaces/ |
| 11:18.01 | verden01 | Hi are there any howto's on installing nvidia drivers and flash and java in Sarge? |
| 11:18.27 | sussudio | !xandros |
| 11:18.27 | dpkg | i guess xandros is a crappy Operating System that _they_ should support... I even think it runs as root. at http://www.xandros.com/ |
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| 11:18.45 | sussudio | verden01: try #xandros |
| 11:19.02 | verden01 | why? |
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| 11:19.15 | sussudio | because that's what you're running, not sarge. |
| 11:19.27 | verden01 | my other computer is running sarge |
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| 11:19.35 | sussudio | right |
| 11:19.39 | Applejax33 | question if some one has any idea - do I have to recomplie php4 to use gd2? |
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| 11:20.09 | verden01 | yeah its my old computer |
| 11:20.13 | sussudio | k. |
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| 11:20.18 | JmGV | not |
| 11:20.25 | JmGV | just install php4-gd2 |
| 11:20.53 | liable | verden01: if its xandros, bad luck, /topic for java, /msg dpkg nvidia, flash you just install.. |
| 11:21.02 | Applejax33 | tried that through aptitude |
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| 11:21.32 | Applejax33 | get Fatal error: Call to undefined function: imagecreatefromjpeg() |
| 11:21.39 | verden01 | and if i can get it running ok i will install sarge on my amd64 |
| 11:21.50 | verden01 | and replace xandros |
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| 11:23.16 | tss_ | I'm having difficulty using fsck, it seems: when I run `fsck /dev/hda9` (unmounted /home), it returns immediately, saying it's "clean". Am I missing some options? I looked in the manual, but don't see any. |
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| 11:26.07 | bizkit | hi, how to get data in /dev/random quickly? i have no physical access, so all i can do is via ssh. i tried moving big files, disc activity.. does not work |
| 11:26.11 | bizkit | any ideas? |
| 11:26.41 | cast | hmmm, curious question |
| 11:26.54 | pihhan | bizkit, would be enough /dev/urandom? |
| 11:27.36 | bizkit | i use /dev/random as described in http://loop-aes.sourceforge.net/loop-AES.README to create the pgp symmetric key |
| 11:27.50 | pihhan | well, in fact human interaction is true random action |
| 11:27.57 | bizkit | i don't know if urandom would be enough. however, i don't even know the exact difference |
| 11:27.59 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: why are you creating a key on a machine which you don't control the physical access to? |
| 11:27.59 | cast | urandom is a PRNG, don't use it for keys |
| 11:28.00 | brosioz | anyone exist if anything to similar of dashboard of mac for kde on linux ? |
| 11:28.19 | pihhan | disc operations is no so random, it can be easily repeated |
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| 11:28.31 | dli | bizkit, you may try, "apt-get udpate;apt-file update" |
| 11:28.49 | bizkit | dondelelcaro: since i've patched pgp on this machine.. its all described in the readme |
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| 11:29.10 | Arsion | dli: ok, thats new. whats the apt-file for? |
| 11:29.18 | bizkit | cast: prng? |
| 11:29.22 | dli | Arsion, apt-get install apt-file |
| 11:29.29 | pihhan | bizkit, you should do your pgp keys on your workstation anyway |
| 11:29.34 | dli | !apt-file |
| 11:29.34 | dpkg | i heard apt-file is util used to find which package owns a given file, or list files in a package, see also auto-apt and pdo, or use apt-file: apt-get install apt-file && apt-file update ; then "apt-file search filename" will give you a list of packages containing filename |
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| 11:30.17 | Arsion | dli: ah, kewl. sorta like packages.debian.org's search system |
| 11:30.25 | concept10 | how do I speed up the process where APT looks through the database when installing/removing apps? |
| 11:30.33 | bizkit | ok, then i will do it on my workstation. however, how to get much data into /dev/random? using keyboard, mouse? |
| 11:30.36 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: that still doesn't provide an explanation; regardless, if you're using a kernel which doesn't use network interrupts to add randomness, you'll have to wait for enough random bits to build up for it to happen. |
| 11:30.54 | pihhan | bizkit, yes, with input devices |
| 11:30.55 | cast | bizkit: it means its a 'pseudorandom number generator', means its not random |
| 11:30.56 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: any non-network/non-timer interrupts will increase the entropy in the entropy pool. |
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| 11:31.26 | dli | dondelelcaro, how to make sure my kernel is using nic interrupts? |
| 11:31.27 | Arsion | can anyone tell me how to speed up my wireless connection? my server is only downloading at 20kbps and it should be ALOT faster then that |
| 11:31.44 | bizkit | dondelelcaro: so why doesn't disc activity create random bits in /dev/random? i copied and moved some 10G files around.. nothing |
| 11:31.48 | dondelelcaro | dli: if you're using 2.4 it does; 2.6, the default is to not. |
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| 11:31.57 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: disc activity isn't random either. |
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| 11:32.04 | dli | dondelelcaro, can I enable it in 2.6? |
| 11:32.05 | liable | Arsion: what ap? try rebooting it. |
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| 11:32.12 | cast | bizkit: btw, looked at LUKS? |
| 11:32.12 | dondelelcaro | dli: if you want to change it, alter random.c. |
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| 11:32.19 | Arsion | liable: using wireless-tools and ndiswrapper |
| 11:32.25 | tss_ | my debian sarge crashes like daily, I don't know why - its looks as if HD becomes inaccessile; anything that is accessing HD hangs. any way to figure out what the problem might be? maybe the file system is inconsistent, but it's ext3 |
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| 11:32.38 | liable | Arsion: yes, but what is the router? |
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| 11:32.42 | harleyg | what is the best laptop in linux, ibm thinkpad? |
| 11:32.43 | Hamled | what is the default mail server on debian? |
| 11:32.43 | dli | Arsion, wireless speed or overall speed? |
| 11:32.50 | Arsion | liable: 2wire home portal |
| 11:32.50 | bizkit | cast: no, what is it? |
| 11:32.53 | dondelelcaro | Hamled: exim, but you can install whatever you want. |
| 11:33.02 | dli | harleyg, I'm thinking about asus |
| 11:33.05 | Hamled | yah, thanks, was just forgetting :) |
| 11:33.08 | harleyg | ok |
| 11:33.15 | liable | harleyg: most shit works on thinkpads. /msg dpkg laptop |
| 11:33.21 | dli | harleyg, ibm is always good, of course |
| 11:33.23 | Zugschlus | dondelelcaro: as if you would want anything other than exim ;) |
| 11:33.28 | cast | bizkit: haven't done your research? ;p. LUKS and loop-aes are the 2 best Linux contenders for block device encryption |
| 11:33.41 | liable | ibm yes, lenovo *shrug* |
| 11:33.42 | Arsion | dli: overall is 3500kpbs wireless connection speed is 54M max but yet the iwlist wlan0 scan reports the AP at 11M |
| 11:33.52 | dondelelcaro | Zugschlus: actually, I don't have exim installed on any of my machines... |
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| 11:33.56 | Nirga1 | Arsion: check iwconfig rate maybe |
| 11:34.02 | dondelelcaro | but then again, I maintain spamass-milter |
| 11:34.03 | Zugschlus | dondelelcaro: bad ;) |
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| 11:34.19 | Arsion | Nirga1: it shows the rate on a iwconfig to be set at 11M |
| 11:34.24 | dli | Arsion, yeah, you need to get 54M |
| 11:34.24 | dondelelcaro | Zugschlus: good, actually... only things that receive mail need a real MTA... everything else gets nullmailer |
| 11:34.33 | bizkit | cast: i used to search differences between dm-crypt and loop-aes, and now i use loop-aes.. |
| 11:34.49 | cast | bizkit: LUKS relies on dm-crypt which is in 2.6, and in stock debian 2.6 kernels. it has some nice features - http://luks.endorphin.org/ |
| 11:34.50 | Arsion | dli: could me having WEP set be causing the slowness? |
| 11:35.04 | dli | dondelelcaro, any idea why they disabled it for 2.6? for performance? |
| 11:35.09 | Nirga1 | Arsion: I mean, try using iwconfig ' rate option to change it |
| 11:35.11 | dondelelcaro | dli: because it's not random enough |
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| 11:35.17 | dli | Arsion, I don't use WEP, no idea |
| 11:35.24 | Arsion | Nirga1: tried, it refuses to change higher then 11M |
| 11:35.38 | harleyg | asus seem cheap, just seen a £340 one on ebay, 2.4ghz p4, 512 ram, etcetc |
| 11:35.50 | pihhan | Arsion, 3,5mbites is not so slow in wireless |
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| 11:36.07 | tss_ | harleyg: p4 <> p4m <> pm |
| 11:36.13 | dli | harleyg, I don't like p4 laptops, since I'm using one |
| 11:36.26 | Nirga1 | arsion: maybe you're using it in "b" mode rather than "g" mode then ... |
| 11:36.27 | pihhan | Arsion, what is the distance between devices, is there any other activity on that channel... |
| 11:36.27 | dli | harleyg, oh, I'm using p4-m |
| 11:36.42 | dondelelcaro | dli: an attacker can trigger network interrupts at specific times, and therefore "know" the content of the pool (or at least cut down the possibilities) |
| 11:36.45 | pihhan | Arsion, there is not easy way to get higher speed |
| 11:36.51 | tss_ | I have a P-M thinkpad FWIW |
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| 11:36.55 | black_Nightmare | hey |
| 11:37.02 | Arsion | pihhan: thats the overall in the line. the max speed the router shows for wireless is 54mb but yet wireless-tools iwlist scan only gets amax of 11mb. However, when i try to download anything i only get 20kpbs speed |
| 11:37.28 | bizkit | another question regarding GPG passhprases, how long can they be? is it a good idea to use a long one, e.g. 128 chars created using makepasswd? or is it worth the effort? |
| 11:37.36 | Arsion | Nirga1: IEEE 802.11g |
| 11:37.48 | dli | dondelelcaro, so, the way it to go way a hardware rng? |
| 11:37.51 | cast | bizkit: no, its not worth the effort |
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| 11:38.08 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: there's a reason why it's a phrase. just write a sentence that you'll remember, or something similar. |
| 11:38.13 | tss_ | new thinkpads can be bought very cheaply if you know someone who works for UPS/IBM/Lenovo |
| 11:38.16 | black_Nightmare | just wondering but is it good idea to have all PnP disabled when installing linux (well yes it is debian-based heh) |
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| 11:38.27 | dondelelcaro | dli: if you need a large amount of high quality random data, yes... but for most people, it doesn't matter. |
| 11:38.28 | pihhan | Arsion, 54mb is theoretical speed you will never meet, and you will be never close enough |
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| 11:38.51 | bizkit | well, if its needed to unlock the key why should it be an easy sentence? |
| 11:38.53 | cast | bizkit: remember you're only using a 2^128 or 2^256 bit key, having a password thats a 100 chars is a waste of effort. 30 chars i think might be comparable to 256bit, ill look |
| 11:38.55 | dli | dondelelcaro, I run freenet on an old box, always wait long for /dev/random |
| 11:39.19 | Arsion | pihhan: ok, then how do I at least get the same speed my windows laptop gets? it gets 22M and downloads at 300kpbs |
| 11:39.30 | dli | pihhan, I get like 2.5 MB/s in copying |
| 11:39.32 | dondelelcaro | dli: that sounds like freenet is using too many bits of random data |
| 11:39.50 | Arsion | pihhan: and btw, right now, the box with the wireless is basically right on top of the router |
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| 11:39.55 | cast | bizkit: ahh, 90^40 ~= 2^256 |
| 11:40.02 | dli | dondelelcaro, yes, and they want to make it truly anonymous |
| 11:40.17 | Nirga1 | Don't use wep, it's soooo easy to crack :) |
| 11:40.18 | pihhan | Arsion, what devices do you have? what antenna do you have? |
| 11:40.18 | dondelelcaro | bizkit: the idea is that it would be one that you would remember; regardless, you can make it as difficult/easy as you feel like. |
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| 11:40.55 | dondelelcaro | dli: right, but you really shoudn't need tons of entropy for that |
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| 11:41.00 | Arsion | pihhan: Network controller: RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card (rev 01) as far as the antenna, i have on it what came with it |
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| 11:41.04 | bizkit | cast: so more than 90 chars would'nt be woth the effort?! |
| 11:41.10 | bizkit | +r |
| 11:41.37 | Arsion | pihhan: the router has an internal antenna |
| 11:41.50 | cast | bizkit: correct! just as 4 padlocks on a glass box isn't worth the effort |
| 11:41.56 | exalted | Hi. Is it possibile to use a local partition as package repository with adding it to the source.list. Any guide to do such thing? |
| 11:42.32 | pihhan | Arsion, if you are close enough, speed should be at least 4mbites |
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| 11:42.46 | pihhan | Arsion, but i dont have internal card or laptop |
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| 11:43.11 | Arsion | pihhan: its so slow, that even putty has trouble with it |
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| 11:43.15 | dli | exalted, you want a deb mirror or just for your own packages? |
| 11:43.25 | pihhan | Arsion, then check it with ping |
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| 11:43.37 | pihhan | you will probably have big packet loss |
| 11:43.39 | bizkit | cast: thanks :) |
| 11:43.54 | exalted | dli: Just for my own business. |
| 11:44.02 | Arsion | pihhan: Minimum = 2ms, Maximum = 4ms, Average = 3ms |
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| 11:44.29 | pihhan | Arsion, is there signal strenght reporting in your router? |
| 11:44.40 | Nirga1 | arsion: I have the very same adapter (using linux module-assistant driver). I saw the rate changing automatically depending of the neighbours settings. |
| 11:44.42 | Arsion | pihhan: Link Quality:84/100 |
| 11:44.55 | cast | bizkit: theres a few other things you might want to do...turn off swap, tell located to not index the mountpoint of the encrypted device |
| 11:44.55 | pihhan | Arsion, you want this line 3 packets transmitted, 3 received, 0% packet loss, time 2000ms |
| 11:45.14 | pihhan | Arsion, try ping -f router-ip as root |
| 11:45.24 | dli | exalted, if it's simple, put the package folder under /var/www |
| 11:45.45 | harleyg | p4m? pm? |
| 11:46.03 | harleyg | http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/High-Spec-Asus-A2540H-P4-2-8Ghz-512Mb-DVD-CD-Rw-40Gb-XP_W0QQitemZ6822772737QQcategoryZ101272QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem |
| 11:46.05 | bizkit | cast: well i've encrypted the swap, too. i don't use locate :) |
| 11:46.13 | Arsion | pihhan: weird...its printing dots and some of those dots disappear and then come back |
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| 11:46.41 | exalted | dli: Does that path being scanned by the "apt-get update"? |
| 11:46.58 | pihhan | Arsion, yes, dots you see is packets that were not answered |
| 11:46.58 | dli | exalted, man dpkg-scanpackages |
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| 11:47.10 | exalted | dli: Allrighty |
| 11:47.15 | Arsion | pihhan: ok, this is very weird...those dots all disappeared and it started to erase some of the stuff on the screen before the ping |
| 11:47.15 | exalted | Thnak you |
| 11:47.23 | dli | exalted, for example, you put your packages under /var/www/packages/ |
| 11:47.39 | pihhan | Arsion, eh, i never met such behaviour |
| 11:47.45 | dli | exalted, cd /var/www;dpkg-scanpackages packages /dev/null | gzip -9 > /var/www/Packages.gz |
| 11:47.53 | Arsion | pihhan: its done erased my lspci output |
| 11:48.06 | pihhan | Arsion, maybe you have bad terminal |
| 11:48.16 | bizkit | when i remotely mount a cdrom over sshfs+fuse, and open a file on that disc, the data is cached into ram/swap?! so, which ram/swap? the one on the machine that has the cdrom drive, the one on the remote side which mounted the cdrom, or both? |
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| 11:48.32 | Arsion | pihhan: 11012 packets transmitted, 9685 received, 12% packet loss, time 165658ms |
| 11:48.35 | pihhan | Arsion, or you have duplicates in reply, so it will move back more times it should |
| 11:48.40 | exalted | dli: I think i'll try to copy an official deb repo. behaviour, and try to construct a similar structure, and try out if that works... |
| 11:48.50 | gnomefreak | is there a list of debian based oses out there somewhere? |
| 11:48.58 | tarzeau | gnomefreak: yeah |
| 11:49.06 | tarzeau | gnomefreak: one of them is http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
| 11:49.11 | dli | exalted, then, you put a line into your /etc/apt/sources.list, "deb http://127.0.0.1/ ./" |
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| 11:49.26 | dli | exalted, use debmirror |
| 11:49.27 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:49.27 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
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| 11:49.54 | exalted | dli: What is it? A program? Or you suggest me to use a debian mirror? |
| 11:49.57 | dli | exalted, but if it's for your own packages, it's simpler |
| 11:50.02 | Eulex | exalted, I've got good experienves with apt-cacher. |
| 11:50.07 | tarzeau | i wonder when gtk1 will die |
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| 11:50.17 | exalted | dli: Nope, they're not my own packages. |
| 11:50.39 | dli | exalted, you don't need to debmirror then, just follow what I said |
| 11:50.48 | exalted | dli: Okay. |
| 11:50.50 | pihhan | is there a way to mirror security? |
| 11:50.54 | exalted | Eulex: What can you tell me then? |
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| 11:51.02 | Eulex | exalted, apt-cacher is simply a local cache repository. if it's not in the cache, it will be downloaded to it. |
| 11:51.27 | tarzeau | pihhan: yes |
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| 11:51.35 | Eulex | exalted, and it was in my experience easy to set up |
| 11:51.40 | gnomefreak | is xandros debian based? |
| 11:51.44 | tarzeau | gnomefreak: yes |
| 11:51.54 | Arsion | pihhan: did you see the ping output? |
| 11:51.56 | gnomefreak | :) yay |
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| 11:52.10 | exalted | Eulex: Are you talking about the "apt-cache" or something else? |
| 11:52.22 | Eulex | exalted, no, apt-cacher != apt-cache |
| 11:52.24 | pihhan | Arsion, yes, not too good, 12% is much |
| 11:52.35 | tarzeau | gnomefreak: you've got xandros? |
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| 11:52.37 | Eulex | exalted, apt-cacher is a separate package |
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| 11:52.48 | exalted | Eulex: So what it does for me? |
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| 11:53.01 | gnomefreak | no but it looked nice i was thinking about it |
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| 11:53.59 | pihhan | Arsion, your connection is not good, or router is not able to reply so fast |
| 11:54.00 | gnomefreak | right now i have a broken etch and a working ubuntu |
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| 11:54.00 | Eulex | exalted, it caches downloaded packages, so you don't have to download a package several times if you have debian running on several computers. |
| 11:54.00 | dli | gnomefreak, how broken is etch? |
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| 11:54.01 | gnomefreak | very broken :( |
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| 11:54.21 | exalted | Eulex: Machine that i'm talking about has no internet connection... |
| 11:54.21 | dli | gnomefreak, because of apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 11:54.34 | dli | gnomefreak, someone mentioned, you can not dist-upgrade to etch |
| 11:54.34 | gnomefreak | after loads it gives me login prompt but than it changes to X than back to login wont let me do anything |
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| 11:55.01 | SimonRaven | ubuntu: you can migrate to debian, but it's a long arduous process involving aptitude |
| 11:55.02 | exalted | Eulex: And i have to intention to install same package on more machines... |
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| 11:55.10 | SimonRaven | and lots of pateince |
| 11:55.14 | dli | gnomefreak, can you login? |
| 11:55.16 | SimonRaven | patience even |
| 11:55.22 | gnomefreak | dli no |
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| 11:55.46 | exalted | ERRATA: ... i hane *no* intention ... |
| 11:55.56 | dli | gnomefreak, I don't understand why did you reboot? |
| 11:56.09 | Eulex | exalted, one solution would be to download/order the cd set |
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| 11:56.31 | CzarnyZajaczek | gnomefreak, maybe you have broken X server |
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| 11:56.44 | gnomefreak | cause i thought it came with the 2.6 kernel but thatt never happened it kept the 2.4 |
| 11:56.52 | exalted | Eulex: Yeah but it's st*pid to download an entire CD, just for a single package, or a package group which are related to each other because of dependencies... |
| 11:57.20 | dli | gnomefreak, can you Ctl-Alt-F1 ? |
| 11:57.21 | Eulex | exalted, otherwise it's probably very possible to create a mirror of an official mirror on a local ftp server with some wget-fu |
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| 11:57.35 | Eulex | exalted, so you just want some packages you've selected yourself? |
| 11:57.36 | exalted | I think i'll imitate standart repo. behaviour, and use my local partition to use as a repository... |
| 11:57.38 | cast | lol..was trying to find xen in Linux, but its not in stock Linux is it |
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| 11:57.58 | never | m00 ppl |
| 11:57.59 | dli | gnomefreak, if it's an X problem, try to boot with "single" kernel param |
| 11:58.10 | gnomefreak | dli, i never tried cause it kept going backa nd forth like it wanted to bring X up i couldnt even crtl alt delete out of it |
| 11:58.12 | never | anyone have running cluster made with openSSI ? |
| 11:58.20 | exalted | Eulex: Yes, i just want some particular pack. and only their depend. |
| 11:58.30 | never | have some questions |
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| 11:58.56 | never | I have some questions about OpenSSI, especially about threads migration |
| 11:59.20 | Eulex | exalted, I'd burn the packages I'd want to a cd/dvd, then create a local apt-cacher repo on the computer and import the packages into it. |
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| 12:00.03 | dli | gnomefreak, then, boot with "single" |
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| 12:00.18 | psykokwak | Hello |
| 12:00.23 | dli | never, I use openmosix |
| 12:00.35 | exalted | Eulex: But does apt-cacher offer me something plus than normal apt-get process? |
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| 12:01.45 | CzarnyZajaczek | gnomefreak, I have sarge, but I tryied kernel 2.6 and X server sometimes have broken, so I use 2.4 kernel and it works |
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| 12:04.18 | Daniel2 | Hey, how is everyone doing tonight? :) |
| 12:04.30 | Eulex | exalted, you could just apt-get from a cd you created, however, you'd then have to recreate whatever format they have yourself |
| 12:04.31 | cast | trying to work out xen! |
| 12:04.49 | Daniel2 | xen? |
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| 12:05.11 | UdontKnow | Xen rocks |
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| 12:05.45 | UdontKnow | cast: might want to check ##xen |
| 12:06.09 | Daniel2 | Xen :) |
| 12:06.14 | Daniel2 | No clue what that is, me. |
| 12:06.17 | exalted | Eulex: I think i do understand apt-cacher. Thank you for your attention, but i'll try to solve my problem without additional software, but with manual job. |
| 12:06.28 | cast | Daniel2: xen is magical. |
| 12:06.45 | Eulex | exalted, copy package cache over manually, eh? |
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| 12:07.20 | Daniel2 | Aye, a right brew it is too. |
| 12:07.25 | Daniel2 | So, um... what does it do? ;) |
| 12:08.54 | cast | think vmware under the GPL with insignificant performance penalties[sp?] |
| 12:09.02 | schippes | can I increase the FD_SETSIZE macro to allow more open fd's ? or is it hardcoded to 1024 in glibc ? |
| 12:09.12 | exalted | Eulex: Downloading package(s) that i need, transfer'em (somehow) to the system, creating a repo. of my own, adding repo. to source.list, update apt-get, and install as usual... |
| 12:09.18 | Daniel2 | oooooer.. then that has my attention! :) |
| 12:10.13 | Daniel2 | You see the largest complaint that I can think of about debian is how every tool one is used to using is rebuilt, like a billion times better, but then you don't know how it works and feel quite embarrased. ;) |
| 12:10.37 | amphi | schippes: that's configurable under /proc I believe |
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| 12:10.53 | Eulex | exalted, ok |
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| 12:11.05 | SimonRaven | Daniel2: ehehe |
| 12:12.14 | schippes | amphi: yes, the /proc/sys/fs/file-max is set to a very large number (50k+) BUT a lower limit in /usr/include/linux/posix_types.h (#define __FD_SETSIZE 1024) prevents using more than 1024 with glibc .... |
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| 12:14.03 | anavim | aptitude is pretty? lol, even apt-cache search is prettier than that... |
| 12:14.06 | TheCount | Daniel2: try / |
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| 12:14.28 | anavim | Daniel2, grep makes a pretty good category breakdown |
| 12:14.37 | amphi | schippes: ah... |
| 12:14.40 | Arsion | pihhan: any idea how to fix the wireless issue? |
| 12:14.51 | black_Nightmare | just wondering, I looked at the packages list but can't figure what I woud have needed for to fully use an ati 7500AIW card? (like tv software, video-in support, etc) |
| 12:15.17 | pihhan | Arsion move to other place, try changing position of your router |
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| 12:15.25 | black_Nightmare | best I could figure out was atitvout |
| 12:15.28 | SimonRaven | enlightenment is a journey of patience and learning. humility and not forgetting it ... |
| 12:15.47 | pihhan | Arsion, i dont know, if signal strenght is good but results are not. |
| 12:15.47 | Arsion | pihhan: could a wireless speaker set cause the problem? |
| 12:16.01 | pihhan | wireless speaker? |
| 12:16.11 | pihhan | yes, that would cause a problem! |
| 12:16.12 | Daniel2 | If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, the meal was cooked long ago. |
| 12:16.16 | Arsion | pihhan: i have a complete wireless surround sound system |
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| 12:16.27 | pihhan | try changing channel on your wireless router |
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| 12:16.49 | cast | Daniel2: we have e. |
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| 12:17.57 | Arsion | hmmm |
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| 12:18.24 | Arsion | i think debhelper needs to realize the differance between talking flood and a flood of joins |
| 12:18.26 | Daniel2 | So what's the difference between aptitude and apt wonders I? |
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| 12:18.43 | Daniel2 | join floods are no good though |
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| 12:18.53 | cast | Daniel2: theres a mailing list post that highlights them..ill go find it |
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| 12:19.10 | anavim | Daniel2, one is a GUI, one has a CLI? |
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| 12:19.13 | amphi | Daniel2: apt is cmd line, aptitude is ncurses (text) gui |
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| 12:19.31 | cast | anavim: one has a GUI *or* |
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| 12:19.38 | SimonRaven | ffs |
| 12:19.38 | cast | CLI, one has just a CLI |
| 12:19.46 | Eulex | none of them has a gui |
| 12:19.52 | Arsion | pihhan: Ok, i dont know how to explain this |
| 12:19.56 | SimonRaven | someone give me an IRC shotgun |
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| 12:20.11 | cast | Daniel2: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:j1g0U5OzMBEJ:lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/04/msg11344.html+&hl=en |
| 12:20.11 | Arsion | pihhan: i changed channel and server lost connection. wouldnt reconnect til i put it BACK on channel 6 |
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| 12:20.20 | Daniel2 | huh. but "aptitude install foo" is CLI. ok, so does apt have advantages over aptitude then? or is aptitude a superset? |
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| 12:20.31 | Arsion | pihhan: then once I do, it reconnects and is now downloading at over 150kpbs |
| 12:20.38 | cast | aptitude is better then apt-get. |
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| 12:21.37 | pihhan | Arsion, maybe you should find some channel about wireless connections |
| 12:22.15 | pihhan | Arsion, i dont know what i should advice you next, your problem is probably not debian related but wireless or kernel/driver |
| 12:22.19 | cast | s/then/than, i always do that :\ |
| 12:23.20 | Daniel2 | or you could s/e/a/g |
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| 12:23.35 | Daniel2 | aptituda is battar than apt-gat. :) |
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| 12:24.49 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:25.02 | Daniel2 | so when I type aptitude on an out of the box (stable) install, it only lists packages from stable? |
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| 12:25.28 | Daniel2 | aptituda fails to be battar than apt-gat? |
| 12:25.42 | Eulex | Daniel2, apt-ghetto? |
| 12:26.26 | cast | Daniel2: depends how you set up the apt sources, they |
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| 12:26.35 | cast | re're probably all for stable |
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| 12:26.58 | cast | new kb and the enter key is doesnt have a depression on its left hand side :\ |
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| 12:27.35 | Daniel2 | What's the easiest way to see categories of stuff in esting or unstable? I'd like to fold in a copy of php5 |
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| 12:28.24 | Eulex | Daniel2, add apt sources for testing and unstable but make stable the default |
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| 12:29.34 | Eulex | keeping stable the default can be achieved by putting APT::Default-Release "stable"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf |
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| 12:30.06 | mschnaubelt | hi |
| 12:30.06 | Daniel2 | woo. I shall give that a try, thanks ya. :) |
| 12:30.17 | row_ | how can I get module-assistant to not halt on error and try and build .deb anyway, -i just removes fancy interface |
| 12:30.23 | cloudr | hello anybody can help me with a nexus-s card and vdr /tvtime. getting no signal |
| 12:30.23 | Eulex | otherwise if you added apt sources for testing and unstable, apt would automatically get stuff from unstable and try to upgrade stuff to the version in unstable |
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| 12:30.48 | Daniel2 | Have good eveningness. :) |
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| 12:31.15 | Eulex | row_, if the build fails, you'd rather not make a .deb out of it. |
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| 12:31.57 | row_ | Eulex: I rather wood, as it fails on a module I don't need, the others compile fine. |
| 12:32.24 | row_ | unicorn-source, don't need unicorn_usb_* just pci, usb fails on 2.6.14 kernel |
| 12:33.18 | row_ | would* |
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| 12:34.51 | Eulex | row_, you can probably go ahead and just install the modules that went ok, without making a package out of it |
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| 12:34.59 | wooden | hi |
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| 12:35.21 | wooden | is there a way to write on a ufs2 partition? |
| 12:35.40 | cast | wooden: boot a freebsd live cd in qemu? |
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| 12:36.03 | wooden | cast: no way must be under linux |
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| 12:38.59 | Eulex | wooden, make an image of the file system, install freebsd in qemu, start an ftp server, mount the ufs2 filesystem in freebsd, make the ufs2 files accessible from ftp, mount the ftp dir on the host linux system? |
| 12:39.12 | Arsion | how do you run a .shar file? |
| 12:39.21 | cast | Eulex: lol |
| 12:39.28 | dimitri | how do I do to execute a script such as script.pl as another user ? |
| 12:39.39 | cast | dimitri: using su |
| 12:39.53 | black_Nightmare | someone really needs to ban this stupid n=uqivei spammer :-/ |
| 12:40.03 | dimitri | cast: sudo or su ? |
| 12:40.12 | cast | Arsion: what happens when you execute it with sh? |
| 12:40.22 | Arsion | cast: havent tried yet |
| 12:40.30 | cast | Arsion: man shar explains it |
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| 12:41.20 | Eulex | wooden, or maybe freebsd supports ext3 or whatever file system you use on linux, so you could copy it over in freebsd? |
| 12:41.36 | cast | dimitri: id just su and run it. but if its a regular thing then sudo might be the way to go i suppose |
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| 12:45.49 | mymayer | which is the best/fastes way to install a "clock snycroniser" under debian,sarge,stable ? |
| 12:46.05 | Greatred | ntpclient perhaps |
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| 12:46.06 | amphi | mymayer: apt-get install ntpdate |
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| 12:46.26 | mymayer | thank you |
| 12:46.33 | Angel | Hi how can i repair my grub after instaling windows xp? |
| 12:46.52 | tarzeau | Angel: just reinstall it? |
| 12:47.02 | Greatred | heh |
| 12:47.08 | tarzeau | a live cd with grub or chroot/mount might be handy |
| 12:47.24 | Greatred | get a boot disk for linux, mount your root partition, chroot to it and run the grub install thingy |
| 12:47.26 | tarzeau | wooden: there's gnu/kfreebsd |
| 12:47.38 | tarzeau | wooden: which can read ext2/3 and write ufs2 |
| 12:47.46 | tarzeau | wooden: #gnu-kbsd |
| 12:48.00 | daxxar | Any way to redirect stdout in a bash-script? |
| 12:48.01 | tarzeau | !ufs2 |
| 12:48.05 | tarzeau | daxxar: sure |
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| 12:48.15 | daxxar | I.e. for *all* commands. |
| 12:48.16 | tarzeau | apt ufs2 |
| 12:48.20 | tarzeau | daxxar: sure |
| 12:48.21 | Angel | Greatred: can you tell me the steps exactly i am a beginner |
| 12:48.27 | Greatred | ahh :) |
| 12:48.35 | daxxar | Ok, thanks. :) |
| 12:48.37 | tarzeau | daxxar: (command; command; command) > wherever |
| 12:48.38 | Greatred | can you boot the rescue disk? |
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| 12:49.05 | Angel | Greatred: which is the rescue disk? |
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| 12:49.16 | TonyB[Laptop] | can someone help me, X keeps freezing when it starts up |
| 12:49.16 | Angel | Greatred: the debian first install disk? |
| 12:49.17 | gnetux | Hi everybody |
| 12:49.32 | tarzeau | @ufs2 |
| 12:49.58 | tarzeau | TonyB[Laptop]: which video driver? which x? |
| 12:50.02 | Greatred | Angel, yes that's the one, there should be a rescue boot option |
| 12:50.17 | tarzeau | TonyB[Laptop]: what kernel? what hardware? what did you change? |
| 12:50.21 | gnetux | anybody could tell me how to mount an creative mp3 player |
| 12:50.30 | Greatred | Angel, are you familiar with the mount commands and your hard disk partition layout etc? |
| 12:50.34 | Angel | Greatred: isearched for it but i couldnt find it |
| 12:50.34 | tarzeau | gnetux: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt ? |
| 12:50.43 | Angel | Greatred: yes |
| 12:50.44 | Greatred | Angel, okay, you'll need to find one |
| 12:50.47 | daxxar | tarzeau, no way to set it for e.g. the current environment? |
| 12:50.59 | wooden | tarzeau: its a root-server, so i think i cant install it |
| 12:51.03 | daxxar | So all following commands will be redirected to wherever? |
| 12:51.06 | Greatred | Angel, okay, knowing mount and the partion layout is a good thing :) |
| 12:51.08 | TonyB[Laptop] | its a new install |
| 12:51.14 | TonyB[Laptop] | brand new...and XOrg |
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| 12:51.21 | TonyB[Laptop] | the Testing distrubition |
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| 12:51.33 | tarzeau | wooden: i'm not sure, experimental might have some ufs2 tools, check #gnu-kbsd |
| 12:51.38 | Greatred | Angel, tbh any recent linux boot disk will probably work |
| 12:51.41 | cast | daxxar: you should probably take a look at the bash manual before trying to write scripts ;) |
| 12:51.48 | TonyB[Laptop] | RADEON driver |
| 12:51.53 | tarzeau | daxxar: why not run the script with a redirection? |
| 12:51.57 | Greatred | Angel, provided it supports your hard disk hardware and the filesystems you are using |
| 12:51.58 | tarzeau | daxxar: what do you really want to do? |
| 12:52.04 | Angel | Greatred: i have knoppix and debian and ubuntu |
| 12:52.09 | TonyB[Laptop] | last log stamp is "Could not init font path element unix/:7100, removing from list!" |
| 12:52.14 | tarzeau | TonyB[Laptop]: read the sid faq yet? |
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| 12:52.27 | Greatred | Angel, you can boot disks for any of those? |
| 12:52.30 | daxxar | cast, I have. |
| 12:52.34 | Greatred | s/can/have/ |
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| 12:52.44 | TonyB[Laptop] | what faq? (link?) |
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| 12:53.00 | daxxar | tarzeau, well, I can't run the script itself in a redirection. |
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| 12:53.21 | daxxar | tarzeau, because my script is being run by a daemon, and it doesn't show either stdout or stderr. |
| 12:53.32 | rziviani | help |
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| 12:53.41 | daxxar | And appending >>/some-debug-file 2>&1 to each command is a bit tiresome. |
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| 12:54.54 | tarzeau | daxxar: you can run the deamon from within screen |
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| 12:55.10 | tarzeau | daxxar: what daemon is that? doesn't it write logfiles? |
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| 12:56.00 | daxxar | tarzeau, it does, but not for these commands. |
| 12:56.36 | bizkit | howto burn some files onto a cdrom from console? any simple interface available? perhaps ncurses based? |
| 12:57.05 | cast | what if you have script2 calling script1 with > somedebugfile |
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| 12:57.19 | daxxar | cast, ah, a wrapper. Yeah, that's an idea. :) |
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| 12:57.49 | Arsion | is it just me, or has pastebin.com died? |
| 12:57.55 | TonyB[Laptop] | :| |
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| 12:58.49 | cast | Arsion: seems either dead or insanely laggy, rafb.net/paste/ is still good though! |
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| 12:59.44 | Arsion | cast: tried sh on a shar and got this error http://rafb.net/paste/results/UEZfZ238.html |
| 12:59.55 | tarzeau | daxxar: i'd run it in a screen and turn on logging |
| 13:00.24 | tarzeau | Arsion: well can you read what it says? |
| 13:00.27 | cast | Arsion: so what happens when you install sharutils? |
| 13:00.44 | tarzeau | Arsion: don't install rpm on debian, is there really no deb of that software? what is the homepage of that software? |
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| 13:00.45 | daxxar | tarzeau, run what in screen? The daemon? |
| 13:00.45 | Arsion | sharutils is already the newest version. |
| 13:00.49 | tarzeau | daxxar: yes |
| 13:01.02 | Arsion | cubepanel.com |
| 13:01.02 | daxxar | It doesn't log to stdout nor stderr. It has no 'foreground' option |
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| 13:02.44 | Arsion | tarzeau: and no. only thing they list is Fedora Core 3 but was kinda hoping it would still install. guess not |
| 13:03.08 | tarzeau | Arsion: try installing with alien? |
| 13:03.09 | cast | Arsion: i really can't say their packaging is to hot, i'd give up on that app personally ;\ |
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| 13:03.37 | tarzeau | Arsion: but looking at what the software is, i'd just not use it |
| 13:03.43 | Arsion | cast: can you suggest one thats good then? one thats free? I love cpanel, but not about to spend thousands of $$$ for it lol |
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| 13:04.58 | justStormY | heyes ;) |
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| 13:05.41 | cast | Arsion: sorry, not really. i shy away from things like that - 'server administration software' reminds me of phpadmin though |
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| 13:06.38 | Arsion | cast: i just did anew search and added debian to the keywords. some are suggesting webmin. Ever tried it and is it as good a some say? I love phpMyAdmin. I sware by it when working with mysql |
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| 13:07.40 | cast | hmm, i've heard webmin often enough. no, never tried it. security implications worry me |
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| 13:08.02 | blondie | attack of the fucktards :D |
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| 13:08.15 | dli | cast, never touch it |
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| 13:08.37 | cast | dli: and why is that? |
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| 13:09.01 | dli | cast: it's evil |
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| 13:10.36 | Arsion | dli: webmin is evil? |
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| 13:11.05 | dli | Arsion, right, make sure your box is not infected by webmin |
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| 13:11.18 | Arsion | dli: why? |
| 13:11.39 | nkuttler | i tried webmin once, it messed with my config files and wasn't flexible enough to do what i want. case closed. |
| 13:11.41 | dli | Arsion, its author was security idiot |
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| 13:12.34 | prock | a co-worker is telling me she wants to learn to use linux instead of windows. Any pointers for a good book? My copy of Debian Unleashed is probably out of date by this point. |
| 13:12.37 | Arsion | dli: grrrrr. everytime i find a server management, something kills it. From the looks of it, I might never find one thats good, secure, and free, plus installs on debian. |
| 13:13.17 | blondie | haha I like how the webmin screenshots show it running over plain HTTP |
| 13:13.20 | cahoot | prock: Running Linux by Matt Welsh is one option |
| 13:13.35 | dli | Arsion, whatever, webmin is not the answer, make sure your boxes are free from it |
| 13:13.44 | vrena | i want to install debian with dual boot |
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| 13:13.50 | Blisaed | I'm a noob with debian and linux in general, on installation I installed the debian desktop but I'd like to remove it and use Fluxbox instead, can anyone help me? I searched the fluxbox webpage and good with no luck :/ |
| 13:14.02 | dli | blondie, a blondie opinion |
| 13:14.15 | Blisaed | google* -good |
| 13:14.39 | blondie | dli: it wasn't an opinion |
| 13:14.46 | dli | Blisaed, apt-get install fluxbox gdm , gdm allows you to select sessions before login |
| 13:15.00 | cast | Arsion: ssh is the go ;) |
| 13:15.02 | shad0wcat | dli: so does kdm |
| 13:15.03 | Blisaed | and thats it? |
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| 13:15.15 | cocozz_out | Hi, does anyone uses enlightenment 17 on ppc ? |
| 13:15.18 | prock | cahoot: looks ok to me. any websites you recommend? |
| 13:15.19 | dli | shad0wcat, yes |
| 13:15.22 | Blisaed | thanks dli |
| 13:15.28 | Blisaed | and shadow |
| 13:15.37 | Guerin | cocozz_out: no. |
| 13:15.55 | cahoot | prock: looks like the latest version is from 2002 though |
| 13:16.36 | prock | oh |
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| 13:18.48 | Ries | hey guys, I see a lot of traffic from my server to a other computer. Port are: 46905 (server) 26649 (remote computer) How can I find out which applications use the port? 46905 |
| 13:19.10 | cast | Ries: netstat will do that |
| 13:19.29 | cast | Ries: lsof will too :) |
| 13:19.31 | Ries | cast: I must have given the wrong options to netstat then :) |
| 13:19.40 | bob2 | -plnt |
| 13:19.48 | bob2 | as root |
| 13:19.53 | bob2 | on the destination |
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| 13:21.14 | Rawplayer | is there any channel on freenode about "BSD secure levels" ? |
| 13:21.49 | azeem | what are "BSD secure levels"? |
| 13:21.53 | cast | niche channel, doubt one exists |
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| 13:22.38 | Talnakh | hey everyone, could someone tell me how i can possibly assign 2 different versions of Java to different users. eg. user 1 >>> JDK 1.4 and user 2 will use 1.5 |
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| 13:22.39 | Talnakh | ? |
| 13:22.41 | cast | azeem: security levels you can set, higher ones restrict what you can do, like openbsd at its highest wont let you change the secure level or change the firewall rules |
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| 13:22.51 | vrena | how can i make dual boot |
| 13:22.52 | Talnakh | Rawplayer, #freebsd |
| 13:23.08 | Rawplayer | Talnakh: but its for linux |
| 13:23.13 | Rawplayer | its in kernel ;) |
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| 13:23.17 | Rawplayer | hmm i could try #kernel |
| 13:23.18 | cast | Talnakh: could configure their paths differently |
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| 13:24.19 | Ries | cats bob2: works thanks! |
| 13:24.25 | bob2 | np |
| 13:24.33 | bob2 | Talnakh: trivial |
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| 13:24.43 | bob2 | Talnakh: install both, let them pick by setting their $PATH approriately |
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| 13:24.57 | bob2 | Talnakh: if they're incapable of doing it, you can edit their bash_profiles for them |
| 13:25.10 | Talnakh | cast, example ? I know that i can change their profiles files so they ll look in different directories. but the question is how to make it so that java -version command will actually report different versions. |
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| 13:26.02 | bob2 | think about it for a second |
| 13:26.06 | bob2 | what does that really mean? |
| 13:26.18 | bob2 | all you need to do is set which 'java' executable is first in ther PATH |
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| 13:27.02 | Talnakh | bob2, ok , that's what i want to and i get a feeling that /usr/bin/java takes precedence over all other locations |
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| 13:27.11 | bob2 | no |
| 13:27.15 | bob2 | that's untrue |
| 13:27.23 | bob2 | the default $PATH indeed says that |
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| 13:27.32 | bob2 | but you're obviously going to change that |
| 13:28.04 | cab | hi folks Snadder |
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| 13:28.11 | cab | erhm sorry for hl |
| 13:28.22 | dli | Talnakh, gentoo has a java-config, allows you to set system and user java instances, but not available in debian |
| 13:28.44 | Talnakh | thanks guys. i ll try to dig some stuff. |
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| 13:28.59 | bob2 | the Debian equivalent of that is update-alternatives --config java |
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| 13:29.19 | Talnakh | bob2, thanks |
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| 13:29.48 | cab | so.. I've a really big pbm with my postfix install : postfix just segfault continuously since this morning. nothing changed on the box (no update, no conf), no one was logged in when it started to happen, and i can't see anything relevant in logfiles |
| 13:30.02 | cab | anyone has an idea ? :/ |
| 13:30.13 | Talnakh | recompile? |
| 13:30.17 | bob2 | wtf |
| 13:30.20 | bob2 | that's a terrible idea |
| 13:30.28 | bbrazil | cab: bad memory/disk |
| 13:30.34 | bob2 | strace it and see what it's doing |
| 13:30.41 | bob2 | dmesg to see if you have an oops for disk problems |
| 13:30.45 | cab | bbrazil: checked, but only postfix is affected :p |
| 13:30.47 | cab | dmesg is clean |
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| 13:31.07 | bob2 | strace it |
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| 13:31.12 | bbrazil | chkrootkit? |
| 13:31.28 | cab | chkrootkit clean too (even reinstalled it just in case) |
| 13:31.36 | anb | Russkie est'? |
| 13:31.36 | cab | will strace it (good idea ;p) |
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| 13:31.43 | xerophyte | if i wanna modify the shadow file using python or perl .. can i just open and modify the file .. is there any program to work with shadow file |
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| 13:31.48 | Talnakh | anb, est'. |
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| 13:32.08 | bob2 | xerophyte: why on earth would you touch it? |
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| 13:32.33 | xerophyte | bob2, i am making the script which will get the username and password to authendicate the user |
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| 13:33.10 | bob2 | xerophyte: why would you do that? |
| 13:33.14 | bob2 | use PAM like god intended |
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| 13:33.39 | xerophyte | bob2, thats what i am wondering |
| 13:33.52 | cast | xerophyte: you can just open() it, but if you're asking then its probably best not to |
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| 13:34.50 | xerophyte | cast, i know you can open it .. i am thinking of modifying it too |
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| 13:35.11 | cast | mmm @ apt-cache show python2.3-pam |
| 13:35.14 | bob2 | xerophyte: you have no need to ever touch that file at all |
| 13:35.14 | xerophyte | cast, i know i can modify to .. but just wondering if there is any library function or program to do it .. you know aht i mean |
| 13:35.24 | bob2 | xerophyte: if you think you do, your plan is broken. use PAM |
| 13:35.26 | cab | bob2: strace indicates segfault juste after an mprotect() operation returning 0, want to see the full log (i'm not clever enough to understand it fully ;p) |
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| 13:35.47 | xerophyte | bob2, hmmm let me see the pam |
| 13:36.19 | bob2 | cab: did you upgrade your kernel recently? |
| 13:36.37 | Bogaurd | Okay - i've just setup a new sarge box, and it seems to have appletalk setup or something? I've no macs, how can i get rid of this? |
| 13:36.44 | cab | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:36.44 | cab | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:38.07 | bob2 | there have been no local root exploits in 317 days? |
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| 13:38.15 | cast | cab: so we can use uselib() then? :) |
| 13:38.22 | d0s | hi! |
| 13:38.26 | bob2 | Bogaurd: that's pretty unlikely, unless you installed netatalk yourself (or maybe one of the tasks did?) |
| 13:38.29 | cab | bah, never had enough time to do it ;p |
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| 13:38.45 | cab | ah it involves shutting down too many things ;) |
| 13:38.46 | Bogaurd | bob2: i used the little wizard installer :P |
| 13:38.54 | cast | cab: ohh dont worry. im sure someone else will have done it for you by now |
| 13:39.03 | bob2 | Bogaurd: hm, is the netatalk package installed? |
| 13:39.15 | Kluster_v2 | Bogaurd, apt-get remove netatalk |
| 13:39.20 | cab | cast: well, if yes, it would be my fault ;p |
| 13:39.43 | Bogaurd | woo, it's gone :P |
| 13:40.00 | cast | on my server, been busy and havent done it for a while :\ |
| 13:40.04 | Bogaurd | is there a way i can like check what i have coming on at startup? |
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| 13:40.32 | bob2 | Bogaurd: ls /etc/rc2.d/S* /etc/rcS.d/S* |
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| 13:40.52 | caphuso | or ls /etc/rc[S2].d/S* |
| 13:40.57 | plbgnr | hello, I set ip address and netmask in /etc/network/interfaces for ra0 - my wireless card; but to work internet connection through it I must set gateway - where shall I set it? (to work automatically after system start) |
| 13:41.08 | cab | bob2: no more ideas ? :/ |
| 13:41.15 | bbrazil | plbgnr: the same place |
| 13:41.15 | Kluster_v2 | what about /etc/init.d ? does it statr from there or is it just using the files in there from the RC.. ? |
| 13:41.32 | caphuso | Kluster_v2: look at "ls -l /etc/rc?.d/" |
| 13:41.32 | bob2 | cab: sudden segfaults only in postfix makes me worry someone is attacking it |
| 13:42.02 | cab | so the question is 'how' ;p |
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| 13:42.14 | Bogaurd | thanks guys. |
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| 13:42.45 | plbgnr | bbrazil: yes :) I found it in in manual too...thanks |
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| 13:42.58 | cab | last mail passed through without a glitch at 3:11, first segfault appeared at 3:20, nothing happened between |
| 13:43.05 | cast | cab: run ngrep and see what traffic it gets that causes the crash? :> |
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| 13:43.28 | bob2 | yeah, or ethereal |
| 13:43.38 | bob2 | for some reason I forgot about them and was about to suggest an iptables LOG rule |
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| 13:44.05 | bob2 | tcpdump I can never remember how to use |
| 13:44.09 | cab | however, even running postconf or any post* thing gives the same segfault |
| 13:44.10 | bob2 | thankfully it's in my shell history |
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| 13:44.18 | [FileFly] | hey folks =) |
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| 13:44.22 | [FileFly] | ok, im now a debian user ;) |
| 13:44.24 | cab | so i'm not sure it's network-related |
| 13:44.30 | [FileFly] | converted from gentoo and so far im VERY impressed! =D |
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| 13:44.36 | bob2 | what's changed since it worked? |
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| 13:44.39 | bob2 | [FileFly]: welcome |
| 13:44.44 | [FileFly] | Only one thing that i need a 'lil help with, ACPI ;) |
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| 13:44.54 | [FileFly] | It's a laptop so im wondering how i should "build in" ACPI support |
| 13:45.03 | [FileFly] | I'm used to custom kernel compiles =P hehe |
| 13:45.20 | bbrazil | cab: I recall a kernel exploit a while back that reiled on what sounds similar to what mprotect does |
| 13:45.29 | cab | bob2: that's my pbm.. 3:11 it work, 3:20 it no longer works. and nothing between, no user, no special activities, no log.. nothing :/ |
| 13:45.51 | bob2 | [FileFly]: don't bother |
| 13:45.58 | bob2 | cab: no package updates? |
| 13:46.02 | cab | no ;) |
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| 13:46.30 | cab | i make my updates manually everyday, don't rely on cron for those kind of things ;p |
| 13:46.32 | Eulex | [FileFly], acpi is compiled into debian kernels by default |
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| 13:47.10 | [FileFly] | Eulex, ok... how do i kinda "enable" it? |
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| 13:47.32 | bob2 | [FileFly]: there's nothing to enable |
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| 13:47.54 | Arsion | anyone ever tried KeyWorx? |
| 13:48.10 | [FileFly] | bob2, Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid deamon is running. |
| 13:48.11 | gr8ron | cab: could a memory error cause such behaviour? are you using ECC memory? |
| 13:48.25 | Eulex | [FileFly], install acpid |
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| 13:48.39 | bob2 | [FileFly]: do you have acpid installed? |
| 13:48.46 | bob2 | [FileFly]: what does 'dmesg' say about ACPI? |
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| 13:48.58 | [FileFly] | bob2, installing now =) |
| 13:49.04 | _Deimos_ | 'lo |
| 13:49.12 | cab | gr8ron: thinking of physically deficient memory ? I can't really test, it's a rented box and don't have any access to it |
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| 13:49.46 | cast | hmm, su's pause on wrong passwords *really* annoys me |
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| 13:50.00 | [FileFly] | ok i'll try rebooting =) |
| 13:50.06 | cab | cast: or enter good passwords ;) |
| 13:50.42 | cast | cab: well, the use of good passwords renders that pause reasonably pointless :) |
| 13:51.01 | cast | if i had a 5 char rootpass i'd probably be quite happy with su's behavior |
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| 13:51.07 | bob2 | no need to reboot... |
| 13:51.07 | _Deimos_ | i would like to install a kdm's theme, so i have dl a theme from kde-look, uncompressed in /usr/share/apps/kdm/themes and modified /etc/kd3/kdm/kdmrc (Theme=path & UseTheme=True) ... however it doesn't work :\ why ? |
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| 13:51.16 | cab | cast: erh no, since it annoys anyone trying to bruteforce passwords ;) |
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| 13:51.22 | bob2 | cast: it's a feature, not a bug, iirc |
| 13:51.26 | bob2 | cab: no idea then, sorry |
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| 13:51.41 | cab | bob2: incoming traffice seems clean too :/ |
| 13:51.45 | cab | -e |
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| 13:52.00 | cast | cab: what would be wrong with a 150ms delay instead? |
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| 13:53.28 | cab | cast: i read an article on the possibility to reduce bruteforce time by observing the time needed to accept or refuse a password |
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| 13:54.05 | cab | it's very theoric and requires very special conditions (like no notework lag and a tool to measure time precisely, but.. :p) |
| 13:54.11 | cast | cab: i remember something like that in ssh to find valid usernames |
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| 13:54.44 | cab | maybe su coders are paranoiac ;p |
| 13:54.53 | bbrazil | cast: they fixed that |
| 13:55.01 | cast | bbrazil: that the did :) |
| 13:55.07 | bob2 | hey, it's a feature, not a bug, that people writing things like su wear tinfoil hats ;) |
| 13:55.13 | cast | cab: do you have the article first? |
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| 13:55.25 | cast | s/first/still |
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| 13:55.42 | cab | cast: i can eventually scan it and send it to you, but it's in Linux mag french edition ;p |
| 13:55.43 | yoo | Hi all ! |
| 13:55.54 | cast | cab: ahh if only i could read french |
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| 13:56.15 | cab | (and i won't translate it ;p) |
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| 13:56.35 | cast | my understanding of things is that you enter your password into su, it gets hashed with the relevent salt and compared to the hash in /etc/shadow, how that would be open to a timing attack is beyond me |
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| 13:57.02 | bbrazil | if you have access to su you can also cat /etc/passwd |
| 13:57.11 | bob2 | I don't think that's a timing attack thing |
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| 13:57.22 | bob2 | I think it's just for slowing down bruteforce attacks, as cab mentioned |
| 13:57.40 | bbrazil | a parallel pipelined approach would nullify that |
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| 13:58.05 | harfooz | hi all - I sent a note to the debian-user list, but have a few minutes to spare, so I thought I'd ask my question here about gnome/sid/locales. I've selected en_US, but I still have some British words showing up. |
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| 13:58.14 | cast | as i said, a 100ms second pause would be sufficent to render bruteforce attacks irrelevent, unless you really do like your tiny root passes |
| 13:58.23 | harfooz | I've made some screenshots to show what I'm talking about: |
| 13:58.30 | harfooz | http://www.penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/colours.png |
| 13:58.38 | harfooz | http://www.penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/centred.png |
| 13:58.46 | harfooz | http://www.penguinsolutions.org/screenshots/gimpcolor.png |
| 13:58.57 | bob2 | harfooz: not everything has a en_UK translation or whatever it is |
| 13:58.59 | Ronin | so the words spelled properly harfooz :) |
| 13:59.24 | harfooz | I didn't notice this in Sarge. |
| 13:59.38 | cab | cast: because you're aware that having small or stupid pass is dangerous, but there's a lot of basic users out there who will just put "mypassword" and think it's safe ;p |
| 13:59.57 | cast | i really think the best defence is it gives me a ergonomic break :) |
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| 14:00.11 | cab | so using a basic dictionnary and a small pause on su, you can bruteforce a lot of things ;p |
| 14:00.13 | Arsion | cab: lol. thats why i use a combo of letters, numbers, and symbols in my passwords |
| 14:00.13 | blondie | you can place restrictions on passwords |
| 14:00.14 | bob2 | harfooz: perhaps the en_uk translations are less up to date than in sarge |
| 14:00.27 | bbrazil | and thus there is john and pam_pwcheck |
| 14:00.29 | blondie | so that users must use at least a non-trivially-stupid one |
| 14:00.35 | harfooz | bob2, ok -- that makes sense |
| 14:00.54 | harfooz | bob2, is this something I should file as a translation issue for en_US? |
| 14:01.12 | cab | Arsion: you also use debian, so you're not really the basic users I think of ;p |
| 14:01.19 | bob2 | harfooz: for en_UK? you can just send in translations yourself if you like |
| 14:01.33 | Eulex | harfooz, when user interfaces are modified, things has to be retranslated -- and that's probably what hasn't been done |
| 14:01.40 | Arsion | cab: heh |
| 14:01.49 | Bogaurd | my sarge install came with apache2, how much work will it be to switch that to 1.3? |
| 14:02.10 | caphuso | Bogaurd: very little |
| 14:02.11 | bob2 | Bogaurd: none |
| 14:02.14 | Eulex | Bogaurd, not much, but why downgrade? |
| 14:02.30 | caphuso | installing apache1.3, removing apache2, done |
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| 14:02.33 | harfooz | my wife said: "Just speak British when you're editing the profile :-)" |
| 14:02.35 | cast | Eulex: alot of people feel 1.3 is the tried and tested answer |
| 14:02.43 | Bogaurd | Eulex: had lots of CGI scripts refuse to run on 2 |
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| 14:02.54 | cast | or that :\ |
| 14:02.55 | Arsion | cab: i had to learn the hard way. I use to just use strife for all passwords and someone brute-forced my ebay passy and paypal passy. Since then, i never use words like that and never use the same password elsewhere |
| 14:02.56 | Eulex | Bogaurd & cast, ah, ok |
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| 14:03.22 | Bogaurd | hmm, i cant ssh to my box. wtf. |
| 14:03.25 | cab | Arsion: no luck :/ |
| 14:04.02 | harfooz | bob2, Eulex how can learn where in Gnome and Gimp those phrases are in the interface, so I could do a s/colour/color? |
| 14:04.16 | Eulex | Bogaurd, just apt-get remove apache2 && apt-get install apache |
| 14:04.20 | harfooz | bob2, Eulex how can *I* learn that is |
| 14:04.29 | Bogaurd | Eulex: thanks :) |
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| 14:04.39 | bob2 | harfooz: they're in "po files" in the source; one sec and I'll link you up |
| 14:04.40 | Arsion | Bogaurd: did you make sure your router is set up to allow connections to port 22? |
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| 14:05.15 | Bogaurd | Arsion: it was working 20 secs ago :P |
| 14:05.32 | Arsion | Bogaurd: ah. dont know then |
| 14:05.40 | cab | ah, lots of strange things breaking today ;p |
| 14:05.46 | Arsion | cab: yeah |
| 14:06.06 | cab | someone is rooting the internet ;) |
| 14:06.08 | bob2 | harfooz: hm, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/intro-i18n/ isn't as specific as I was hoping, but it should cover how to do it |
| 14:06.09 | Eulex | harfooz, however, iirc they are stored as binary files when you install the software. so you can't just modify the translation files. you gotta get the source .po files, modify them, and compile them |
| 14:06.22 | Arsion | anyone here ever use KeyWorx or at least hear anything about it? |
| 14:06.31 | bob2 | hm, actually, that's shit |
| 14:06.32 | blondie | who cares if something is in british instead of american english or vice versa |
| 14:06.37 | cab | Arsion: nop |
| 14:07.03 | harfooz | bob2, Eulex thanks very much for the information. (I was worried that I had misconfig'd something along the way) |
| 14:07.16 | mirak | I get this error when trying to build packages from debians src package checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 14:07.24 | Bogaurd | ....Stupid machine. |
| 14:07.26 | asg | mirak: install build-essential |
| 14:07.31 | Bogaurd | fine, i will put a video card in you |
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| 14:07.36 | Bogaurd | and carry a screen over |
| 14:07.36 | bob2 | mirak: what does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -n1' print out? |
| 14:07.42 | Bogaurd | and see why you are not booting. |
| 14:08.02 | cast | # netstat -napt|grep '220:4500'|wc -l |
| 14:08.02 | cast | 47 |
| 14:08.11 | Eulex | harfooz, those .po files are compiled into .mo files and stored in for example /usr/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES |
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| 14:08.38 | corpix64 | hi |
| 14:08.40 | bob2 | harfooz: oh, note, I don't know if the out-of-dateness was the original issue or not, I was just guessing :) |
| 14:08.46 | corpix64 | anyone up for a question ? |
| 14:08.52 | mirak | bob2: ii libc6 2.3.5-1 |
| 14:08.56 | asg | !tell corpix64 about ask |
| 14:08.57 | cast | corpix64: we have nothing better to do :> |
| 14:09.08 | bob2 | mirak: that's not the whole line |
| 14:09.20 | mirak | bob2: no kidding |
| 14:09.28 | mirak | asg: I already have this package |
| 14:09.37 | corpix64 | i have problems with nfs-kernel-server, after a dist-upgrade it wont work anymore, rpcinfo -p shows only portmapper and status |
| 14:09.40 | bob2 | mirak: this is not an ubuntu support channel, sorry. |
| 14:10.23 | corpix64 | i even --pruged and --reinstalled the package |
| 14:10.26 | corpix64 | but no success |
| 14:10.30 | corpix64 | firewall is ok, too |
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| 14:10.34 | bob2 | corpix64: what version of Debian? |
| 14:10.38 | corpix64 | sid |
| 14:11.12 | bob2 | corpix64: what does the bts say? |
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| 14:11.27 | corpix64 | bts ? |
| 14:11.33 | asg | !btssmite corpix64 |
| 14:11.41 | mirak | bob2: that bug is common to both distro |
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| 14:11.53 | Eulex | harfooz, so what you'd do is get the .po files from the gimp source, correct them, compile them into .mo files (sorry, I don't remember what command to run to compile them) and place them in /usr/share/locale/uk/LC_MESSAGES (and of course, also submit the corrected translation files to the gimp project) |
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| 14:11.54 | bob2 | mirak: that seems unlikely |
| 14:11.59 | corpix64 | ah, ok, bts --- nothing it says |
| 14:12.04 | bob2 | mirak: since they have fairly different toolchain versions |
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| 14:12.13 | corpix64 | i have another sid box, here, work flawlessly |
| 14:12.33 | caphuso | mirak: what does "mount" say about the filesystem you are compiling on? |
| 14:12.33 | asg | corpix64: when was the last time you upgraded that? |
| 14:12.39 | bob2 | hah |
| 14:12.45 | corpix64 | both 1 week ago |
| 14:12.48 | corpix64 | @ asg |
| 14:12.58 | corpix64 | just dist-upgraded today |
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| 14:13.30 | mirak | /dev/mapper/v1-linux1 on / type reiserfs (rw) |
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| 14:13.36 | corpix64 | asg, bob it looks like if the rpc.<services> wont start with nfs-kernel-server |
| 14:13.39 | mirak | caphuso: /dev/mapper/v1-linux1 on / type reiserfs (rw) |
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| 14:13.57 | J_t_M | Hi all, I'm trying to find which package prism2_usb is in... |
| 14:14.05 | bob2 | J_t_M: none |
| 14:14.08 | asg | corpix64: then downgrade the package to the previous version (snapshot.debian.net) and, if that fixes things, file a bug. |
| 14:14.09 | J_t_M | No? |
| 14:14.11 | corpix64 | J_t_M: linux-wlan-ng |
| 14:14.24 | corpix64 | asg: good idea, tx |
| 14:14.28 | bob2 | J_t_M: it's a linux-wlan-ng module, so you'll need to install the -source package and build it |
| 14:14.39 | Bogaurd | Arsion: i fixed it, if you're still interetsed. |
| 14:14.50 | Bogaurd | the cpu was err... loose. |
| 14:14.52 | J_t_M | Corpix: I've got that package installed, but modprobe won't load it. |
| 14:14.54 | Bogaurd | silly slot cpu's. |
| 14:14.58 | Arsion | Bogaurd: ? |
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| 14:15.08 | bob2 | hah |
| 14:15.11 | Bogaurd | Arsion: couldnt ssh. |
| 14:15.17 | corpix64 | J_t_M: note that some prism2_usb devices need a "modprobe doreset=1" to work |
| 14:15.18 | Arsion | Bogaurd: ah |
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| 14:15.28 | mirak | conftest.c:1: error: CPU you selected does not support x86-64 instruction set |
| 14:15.29 | amorphix | hi |
| 14:15.31 | mirak | huhu |
| 14:15.32 | Arsion | Bogaurd: yeah, loose cpu's cause ALOT of problems |
| 14:15.43 | amorphix | what do I need installed to play videos thru Noatun? |
| 14:15.47 | Rawplayer | anyone in here played with BSD Secure Levels Linux Security Module |
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| 14:16.03 | Bogaurd | Arsion: i hope it doesnt happen when the server is back out in the garage |
| 14:16.06 | Bogaurd | =\ |
| 14:16.14 | J_t_M | corpix/bob2: modprobe prism2_usb returns FATAL: Module prism2_usb not found. |
| 14:16.17 | bob2 | mirak: and the stupid CFLAGS/configure options you set? |
| 14:16.21 | Bogaurd | Arsion: seeing as it has no video card or monitor. |
| 14:16.25 | bob2 | J_t_M: yes, as above, you need yo build it? |
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| 14:16.39 | cast | bleh..you're kidding me irssi/screen froze |
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| 14:17.11 | mirak | bob2: I did not configured soemthing |
| 14:17.14 | J_t_M | bob2: OK as a deb newbie, is it like rpms where you just put in a switch, or is it more complicated than that? |
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| 14:17.23 | mirak | bob2: as I said I don't use apt-build to do what I am doing right now |
| 14:17.28 | bbrazil | !frozen screen |
| 14:17.28 | dpkg | methinks frozen screen is http://www.netsoc.tcd.ie/~bbrazil/matrix/random.html#fix-freezed-screen |
| 14:17.29 | corpix64 | J_t_M: install/compile the modul first |
| 14:17.30 | mirak | it's another problem |
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| 14:17.35 | bob2 | J_t_M: is it too late to return it? |
| 14:17.36 | plbgnr | hello, did anybody install openoffice 2.0? I found entry to sources.list on apt-get.org ,added,update,then try to install but I got 'unmet dependences' messages |
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| 14:17.42 | Larsioa | Hello does anybody know if its possibel to get oidentd to listen on a ip and not 0.0.0.0 |
| 14:17.53 | Firestarter2 | Is there a way to create a disk image file from a directory in linux |
| 14:18.05 | bob2 | plbgnr: talk to whoever made them |
| 14:18.06 | bob2 | Firestarter2: no |
| 14:18.17 | amorphix | hi |
| 14:18.39 | Bogaurd | is there a way to make the pc speaker beep from bash? |
| 14:18.40 | asg | Firestarter2: mkisofs |
| 14:18.42 | plbgnr | bob2: who made package or openoffice? |
| 14:18.43 | J_t_M | bob: Nah, it's quite an old device (about 2 years or so), but I've never really had it working on Linux, so I figured I'd at least give it a shot before ebaying a new one! |
| 14:18.46 | bob2 | plbgnr: the packages |
| 14:18.50 | Eulex | plbgnr, get them from experimental instead |
| 14:18.54 | plbgnr | bob2 ok |
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| 14:18.57 | cast | Bogaurd: why do you say no at making disk image file? |
| 14:18.57 | Firestarter2 | asg: thanks |
| 14:18.58 | bob2 | Bogaurd: it does by default |
| 14:19.04 | cast | Bogaurd: uh, sorry dude. meant bob2 |
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| 14:19.14 | bob2 | oh, asg wins |
| 14:19.15 | bob2 | adios |
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| 14:19.31 | Bogaurd | bob2: i mean, can i give a command and have it go 'beep!' |
| 14:19.41 | bob2 | printf '\a' |
| 14:19.48 | asg | Firestarter2: if you mean a loopback mounted filesystem, then just create a file with dd, mount it over loopback, create a filesystem on it, copy data to it. |
| 14:19.51 | cast | mkisofs is the easiest, if one wanted reiserfs or something..losetup would do too |
| 14:20.00 | Larsioa | Hello does anybody know if its possibel to get oidentd to listen on a ip and not 0.0.0.0 (Nov 20 22:11:32 esben oidentd[32399]: Fatal: Unable to setup listening socket |
| 14:20.18 | plbgnr | Eulex: Do you mean that I shall s/stable/unstable in sources.list? |
| 14:20.26 | caphuso | asg, Firestarter2: wrong order. first create filesystem, then loop mount |
| 14:20.27 | Eulex | plbgnr, no. |
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| 14:21.10 | asg | caphuso: thanks, I'm still a little groggy this morning :) |
| 14:21.16 | Eulex | plbgnr, add apt sources for unstable and experimental in your source.list, but keep stable as the default. it may work, it may also not work. it works on testing, at least. |
| 14:21.26 | caphuso | asg: did pub time end too late yesterday? :) |
| 14:21.28 | J_t_M | bob, is it apt-get build-dep linux-wlan-ng-source? |
| 14:21.36 | bob2 | J_t_M: no |
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| 14:21.43 | bob2 | J_t_M: apt-get install linux-wlan-ng-source |
| 14:21.48 | bob2 | or not, I forget |
| 14:21.51 | Firestarter2 | asg/caphuso: know any url's with examples |
| 14:21.53 | bob2 | linux-wlan-ng is ass |
| 14:22.02 | J_t_M | lol |
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| 14:22.08 | caphuso | Firestarter2: man mkfs.whatever; man mount |
| 14:22.12 | Eulex | plbgnr, to keep stable the default, create /etc/apt/apt.conf and put APT::Default-Release "stable"; in it |
| 14:22.14 | asg | caphuso: against my better judgement, I spent 9 hours playing WoW. |
| 14:22.17 | corpix64 | bob2, asg : do you guys know if nfs has a 4gb limit, when i use nfs-user-server (for some reasons this works for me), it shows a lstat error on client site on a >4gb file? |
| 14:22.22 | harfooz | I have another language question - this time it's about firefox. How do I get the characters for other languages to display in firefox rather than the hex code boxes? |
| 14:22.35 | bob2 | harfooz: choose a font that supports them |
| 14:22.43 | harfooz | ah -- thanks |
| 14:22.50 | Eulex | harfooz, install the right fonts |
| 14:22.53 | caphuso | asg: eek |
| 14:23.15 | asg | caphuso: add some beer to that mix and I'm really glad that it is cloudy this morning :) |
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| 14:23.55 | caphuso | asg: hehehe |
| 14:24.02 | plbgnr | Eulex: ok and where then shall I find experimental sources ? ...for oo2 |
| 14:24.03 | harfooz | I've installed mozilla-firefox-locale-ko mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-cn mozilla-firefox-locale-zh-tw, and restarted firefox, but still have the hex code boxes. |
| 14:24.16 | corpix64 | bob2, asg i still get this error: LANG=C_ALL sudo mount /media/cube/hde6 |
| 14:24.16 | corpix64 | mount: RPC: Program not registered |
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| 14:24.23 | corpix64 | on nfs-kernel-server |
| 14:24.31 | cast | anyone want to recommend some bandwidth 'accounting' software? basically i just want to know at the end of each month how many gigs got used by what |
| 14:24.37 | plbgnr | Eulex: (I thought that apt-get.org are experimental sources) |
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| 14:25.15 | gr8ron | harfooz: try LC_MESSAGES=zh-cn mozilla-firefox |
| 14:25.31 | Bogaurd | okay, i told apt-get to remove apache2. it said it sis, but apache 2 is still completly functionall, and it now wont get rid of it =( |
| 14:25.37 | Eulex | plbgnr, experimental is a part of debian. it's like unstable, but even worse :) |
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| 14:26.31 | Eulex | plbgnr, you'd duplicate your current stable apt sources and substitute stable with unstable on one of them and stable with experimental on the other :) |
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| 14:26.54 | Skaag | the apache-ssl package is not Ben-SSL, right? It's mod_ssl? |
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| 14:27.05 | harfooz | gr8ron, Locale not supported by C library. |
| 14:27.18 | harfooz | Using the fallback 'C' locale. |
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| 14:27.29 | dli | harfooz, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 14:27.35 | gr8ron | harfooz: well, do you have all the necessary locales in /etc/locale.gen ? |
| 14:27.41 | Eulex | gr8ron & dli, wrong |
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| 14:28.08 | gr8ron | harfooz: i might have given you a wrong locale, but LC_MESSAGES=something mozilla-firefox should do it |
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| 14:28.18 | Eulex | harfooz, you don't want to translate the interface of firefox, right? just make pages in foreign languages show up properly? |
| 14:28.21 | plbgnr | Eulex: ..that alll for installing time and then all back? btw which is 'on one of them'? |
| 14:28.22 | mirak | is using a ssh tunnel trough https proxy to acces a remote computer can be considered as piracy ? |
| 14:28.26 | harfooz | I guess not -- is this a systemwide configuration that I need to do compared to a firefox-specific configuration? |
| 14:28.28 | harfooz | Eulex, right |
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| 14:28.39 | Eulex | harfooz, then ignore the people talking about locales |
| 14:28.47 | Eulex | harfooz, you need fonts, not locales |
| 14:28.48 | harfooz | Eulex, I am just tired of looking at the hex code boxes. |
| 14:28.53 | cast | mirak: i dont see why not, if you make sure the key fingerprint is good |
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| 14:29.17 | J_t_M | Mirak: Probably not - but I'd discuss with a) the owner of the proxy, b) the owner of the network, c) the owner of the destination box |
| 14:29.26 | J_t_M | Make sure you're not breaking any rules...! |
| 14:29.37 | gr8ron | harfooz: you could have been more specific :) |
| 14:30.00 | nextime | anyone using openoffice.org 2.0 with sid? |
| 14:30.01 | harfooz | gr8ron, sorry about that. |
| 14:30.04 | harfooz | my bad |
| 14:30.06 | mirak | J_t_M cast : I guess doing a bidirectionnal VPN would be a bit more of a problem |
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| 14:30.25 | J_t_M | Mirak: What are you trying to do? Is it all your kit? |
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| 14:30.28 | mirak | but as long it's unidirectionnal, it's not different than just connecting to a secure server |
| 14:30.29 | harfooz | nextime, I am using oo 2 in Sid, but not regularly. |
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| 14:30.37 | Eulex | harfooz, apt-cache search chinese ttf |
| 14:30.41 | mirak | with https |
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| 14:30.46 | mirak | J_t_M: what ? |
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| 14:31.05 | nextime | harfooz : it's really so slow to get more than 2 minutes to open a swx file? |
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| 14:31.07 | dli | harfooz, apt-get install xfonts-intl-chinese |
| 14:31.08 | J_t_M | Mirak: My only concern is that where I work, it's considered to be a "Security Breach" to do that, and I'd get sacked (or at least disciplined) for doing it.... |
| 14:31.10 | harfooz | Eulex, thanks -- I was apt-cache searching for fonts | grep chinese and not getting anything. |
| 14:31.17 | J_t_M | Technically it *will* work. |
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| 14:31.31 | jaggy | how can I see the latest packages added.. so I can remove them? |
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| 14:31.39 | dli | harfooz, or, apt-get install scim-chinese |
| 14:31.47 | mirak | J_t_M: it ws a topic on a forum. Some guy wanted to to a vpn trough a univ proxy. I told him how to use tunneling trhough https (very easy), but some frsutrated admins jumped in and shouted PIRACY ! PIRACY ! |
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| 14:32.21 | bbrazil | mirak: its only 'piracy' if you're warezing |
| 14:32.25 | J_t_M | Mirak: No, it's not piracy. Piracy is the theft of software, music, video or some other form of data. |
| 14:32.27 | mirak | J_t_M: for doing a whole vpn or just connecting to your box ? |
| 14:32.30 | cast | mirak: you mean't piracy and not privacy? |
| 14:32.38 | cast | J_t_M: i thought it was attacking ships? |
| 14:32.44 | harfooz | nextime, I'll try that right now. |
| 14:32.52 | Eulex | plbgnr, I'll try to explain this. create two copies of your apt source lines in sources.list. on the first one, s/stable/unstable/. on the second one, s/stable/experimental/. but keep your old sources for stable. then, to make stable the default, create /etc/apt/apt.conf and put APT::Default-Release "stable"; in it |
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| 14:33.01 | mirak | cast: piracy, hacking, whatever |
| 14:33.02 | mirak | :) |
| 14:33.17 | J_t_M | mirak: Anything... I work for an IT co., so they tend to be a bit paraniod about pushing anything not expected via a link |
| 14:33.19 | harfooz | nextime, nope -- opening a .sxw file was pretty snappy here. |
| 14:33.25 | cast | mirak: all you're cared about is your privacy :) |
| 14:33.26 | J_t_M | cast: well... maybe ;) |
| 14:33.36 | nextime | harfooz : uhmm ok tnx |
| 14:33.36 | Bogaurd | dpkg -l will list all packages, but how can i list only what i have installed? |
| 14:33.40 | dpkg | No packages found matching will list all packages, but how can i list only what i have installed |
| 14:33.45 | nextime | maybe i need a dist-upgrade |
| 14:33.49 | mirak | J_t_M: but that ssh trough https is barely detectable |
| 14:33.49 | maxxle | I'm using xfce4. Is there a way to save the mixersettings? I'm using the alsa-environment and have to re-adjust my settings after each reboot. |
| 14:33.54 | Eulex | nextime, I'm using it on etch |
| 14:34.03 | jaggy | I want to remove some; they were added when I was trying to get some dev stuff installed for a program I was trying to compile |
| 14:34.10 | mirak | J_t_M: all they can monitor is where you are connecting |
| 14:34.13 | Eulex | nextime, dist-upgrade on sid is asking for problems |
| 14:34.19 | mirak | J_t_M: and how long |
| 14:34.21 | J_t_M | mirak: True. |
| 14:34.35 | Eulex | maxxle, install setmixer. this has nothing to do with xfce, btw |
| 14:34.36 | nextime | Eulex : grave bugs? |
| 14:34.44 | nextime | or nothing too bad? |
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| 14:35.02 | maxxle | Eulex: I know that it doesn't depends on xfce - But I thought maybe I can do it using the xfce-mixer. But I will install setmixer. |
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| 14:35.05 | Nenillo | hi |
| 14:35.07 | Eulex | nextime, you never know, that's the problem. that's because it's called unstable :P |
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| 14:35.17 | cahoot | maxxle: alsa-base installed? - should save and restore settings for you |
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| 14:35.28 | N0S3 | hello ! |
| 14:35.41 | J_t_M | mirak: However, if you think about what you're doing is effectively making extremely regular connections to an external machine. If they are concerned about the traffic you're pushing, and they see that much data going across the wire, they'll check your machine/account/filestore and see *something* you're not supposed to have. |
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| 14:35.53 | Bogaurd | okay: i wanna install apache 1.3 with ssl support, php and php/mysql integration, should i be issuing a command something like: apt-get install apache && apt-get install php4 && aptget install mysql |
| 14:35.54 | Bogaurd | ? |
| 14:35.59 | cast | ahh hmm. so where do i access the iptables counters? |
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| 14:36.03 | Nenillo | how canI do a grep but in negative? cat file | grep "don't want to see this" |
| 14:36.04 | Bogaurd | or do i somehow need to tie them all together? |
| 14:36.12 | J_t_M | bogaurd: Nha, apt-get install apache php4 mysql |
| 14:36.14 | azeem | Nenillo: grep -v |
| 14:36.16 | asg | Bogaurd: make sure you have libapache-mod-php4 and php4-mysql also |
| 14:36.18 | J_t_M | nah even :) |
| 14:36.26 | Bogaurd | ah okay :) |
| 14:36.30 | Bogaurd | how about for ssl? |
| 14:36.34 | Nenillo | thanks azeem |
| 14:36.36 | Bogaurd | is that covered by just apache? |
| 14:36.38 | Nenillo | didn't see that option |
| 14:36.40 | asg | Bogaurd: libapache-mod-ssl |
| 14:36.49 | nextime | Eulex : oh, ok, you are saying "in general", ok, so, no problem, i'm using sid on this machine from about 6 years, so, o know enought about dist-upgrade risks |
| 14:36.50 | J_t_M | Bob2: You still here? |
| 14:36.50 | nextime | :) |
| 14:36.51 | Bogaurd | super! :D |
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| 14:37.10 | Bogaurd | in any particular order? |
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| 14:37.32 | J_t_M | bogaurd: Nah, just lump it all in |
| 14:38.01 | mirak | J_t_M: yep, it uses a little binary that remove some http headers giving the hand to ssh. It could even be built as a ssh feature in fact |
| 14:38.06 | cast | ahh, its --verbose |
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| 14:38.09 | Eulex | nextime, yep, then you should be safe. there are a lot of n00bs out there running sid who shouldn't do that, though. |
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| 14:38.24 | Bogaurd | J_t_M: so something like "apt-get install apache php4 mysql libapache-mod-php4 php4-mysql libapache-mod-ssl" should do it all? |
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| 14:38.53 | cast | mirak: i don't understand how ssh to some remote server wouldnt be secure, you're protected against mitm attacks and its all encrypted. i think its very much secure |
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| 14:39.10 | cast | mirak: the medium that ssh runs over doesn't really matter |
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| 14:39.13 | abrotman | Bogaurd: mysql-server ? |
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| 14:39.24 | J_t_M | cast: It's not that the data can be intercepted, it's more whether the traffic is allowed or not |
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| 14:39.45 | Bogaurd | abrotman: err, should i add that in? (havent pushed enter yet :p) |
| 14:39.46 | J_t_M | sorry "permitted" by the admins, not allowed |
| 14:40.04 | Bogaurd | abrotman: isnt mysql-server the same as 'mysql' |
| 14:40.05 | abrotman | Bogaurd: i meant instead of just mysql ... |
| 14:40.05 | Bogaurd | ? |
| 14:40.06 | mirak | J_t_M: if they authorise ssl connections then it isn't it ? :) |
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| 14:40.08 | never | dli: hi |
| 14:40.10 | Bogaurd | ah okay. |
| 14:40.13 | mirak | it is |
| 14:40.17 | cast | J_t_M: ahh if it wasn't allowed then he wouldn't be able to do it ;) |
| 14:40.19 | dli | never |
| 14:40.28 | never | dli: could you please test for me if java threads are migrating properly? |
| 14:40.38 | Eulex | Bogaurd, the package mysql doesn't exist |
| 14:40.41 | never | dli: _threads_, not processes? |
| 14:40.41 | abrotman | Bogaurd: not sure .. i guess you can try it .. what's the worst that happens .. it screws up .. machine blows a disk .. throws a platter .. decapitating your cat ... |
| 14:40.45 | dli | never in openmosix? |
| 14:40.48 | never | dli: yeah |
| 14:40.58 | mirak | cast: well the only way they can prevent it is to stop https |
| 14:40.59 | Bogaurd | Eulex: thanks :P |
| 14:41.03 | Bogaurd | abrotman: lol |
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| 14:41.46 | J_t_M | mirak: Strictly speaking... no. SSL is a secure socket layer - you can send SSH over HTTP if you want to. SSH is an encryption mechanism with port forwarding. You are bending the rules, however you look at it. |
| 14:41.57 | asg | abrotman: hard to decap webster since his head is burried in the bowels of his squeaky toy basket looking for the catnip lobster. |
| 14:42.09 | jaggy | sigh.. |
| 14:42.10 | J_t_M | I understand the perspective of the admin (as an admin) |
| 14:42.27 | dli | never I don't know threads :( probably you need shm-migrate support in kernel |
| 14:42.28 | J_t_M | I've also used SSH over HTTP, so I understand where you and the other guy are coming from... |
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| 14:42.43 | Bogaurd | Suggested packages: |
| 14:42.43 | Bogaurd | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.43 | Bogaurd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:42.51 | cast | mirak: read the aup, chances are its not not allowed. theres probably a part that says 'all network access must be relevent to XXX' and you'll have to have a case there, which is simple enough |
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| 14:43.02 | Bogaurd | should i use apach-ssl instead of libapache-mod-ssl? |
| 14:43.06 | abrotman | asg: i'm not sure if i'm more upset about .. you attempting to decapitate your cat ... or the catnip lobster |
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| 14:43.18 | asg | Bogaurd: no, stick with libapache-mod-ssl |
| 14:43.28 | Bogaurd | asg: okay. whats the diff? |
| 14:43.31 | asg | abrotman: do not taunt the catnip lobster |
| 14:43.45 | cast | in our uni library we have a rather broad rule that says basically says 'librarians can decide what you're doing is not allowed, even if what you're doing is not listed as not allowed, and ban you from all the computers' |
| 14:43.47 | asg | Bogaurd: the SSL module is compiled in the apache-ssl package, libapache-mod-ssl is a dynamic module |
| 14:43.56 | Bogaurd | asg: okay :) |
| 14:44.02 | abrotman | asg: it attacks ? |
| 14:44.18 | asg | abrotman: no, it is rather the focus of attack. |
| 14:44.37 | asg | abrotman: when I get my camera, I'll take a picture. |
| 14:44.41 | abrotman | asg: it's just a cat .. and from what i've seen .. i can't imagine your cats move too fast :) |
| 14:44.42 | J_t_M | OK, I've got linux-wlan-ng apt-get_installed... now what do I need to do to get prism2_usb module built? |
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| 14:45.17 | asg | abrotman: you'd be surprised, both can move when they need to; especially after getting stoned after licking the catnip lobster. |
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| 14:45.30 | jaggy | thanks anyway.. b'bye |
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| 14:45.36 | N0S3 | buenas a todos |
| 14:45.51 | abrotman | asg: that's very nice of you to get your cats stoned ... |
| 14:45.57 | cast | mirak: i personally think the biggest danger is the old 'omg i don't know what hes doing it must be bad' issue we all run into often enough :\ |
| 14:46.24 | asg | abrotman: they thank me by not yacking on the carpet. |
| 14:46.49 | abrotman | asg: maybe if you shaved the cats . they wouldn't lick themselves and get a tummy full of hair |
| 14:47.09 | J_t_M | cast/mirak: Definately... it's one of the benefits of being poacher turned game-keeper... when I b**lock someone for being an idiot, I have a better-than-even odds of knowing what they're doing! |
| 14:47.10 | asg | abrotman: getting them to stop eating plants is my number one issue right now. |
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| 14:47.22 | abrotman | asg: buy crappy tasting plants |
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| 14:47.40 | asg | abrotman: it doesn't seem to matter which ones I buy |
| 14:47.54 | abrotman | asg: this however .. requires you to try before you buy at the plant store :) |
| 14:48.04 | asg | abrotman: :) |
| 14:48.08 | Eulex | asg, buy cacti :) |
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| 14:48.29 | abrotman | asg: i think there are a few variety they won't eat |
| 14:48.35 | asg | Eulex: an option :) |
| 14:48.37 | Eulex | or acid plants. has about the same effect. |
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| 14:48.55 | cast | hmm, iptables counters are not much use to me..'pkts bytes target prot opt in out source destination |
| 14:48.57 | abrotman | asg: like .. uhm .. our cats never ate my mom's xmas cactus(not a true prickly cactus) |
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| 14:49.15 | cast | ahh damn \n thwarted me |
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| 14:49.43 | cast | anyway, without rewriting my rules the state RELATED,ESTABLISHED ACCEPT rule catches all the traffic |
| 14:49.47 | corpix_ | bob2: asg : , heh, after a reboot of the server nfs-kernel-server works, but rebooting shouldnt be the way things are fixed, this is not win ;) |
| 14:49.49 | corpix_ | and the 4gb barrier is for nfs-user-server only i thinlk |
| 14:49.51 | corpix_ | *think |
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| 14:50.42 | amorphix | hi |
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| 14:50.46 | amorphix | how do I play videos |
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| 14:50.55 | Bogaurd | okay guys, i did the apache installation (phoebe:/var/www# apt-get install apache php4 mysql-server libapache-mod-php4 php4-mysql libapache-mod-ssl phpmyadmin php4-gd) but it doesnt seem to work. |
| 14:50.59 | abrotman | amorphix: with a video player |
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| 14:51.01 | Eulex | J_t_M, m-a linux-wlan-ng |
| 14:51.05 | asg | corpix_: probably would have helped if you'd removed the kernel modules related to nfs and re-modprobed them. |
| 14:51.10 | Bogaurd | php files just get sent to the client, no interpretation. |
| 14:51.19 | Eulex | umh, J_t_M m-a a-i linux-wlan-ng |
| 14:51.22 | amorphix | abrotman: can you recommend one? my noatun used to play video but it doesnt since I reinstalled deb |
| 14:51.27 | corpix_ | asg: nope, did that, dunno something went wrong with the init scripts i think |
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| 14:51.33 | J_t_M | Eulex: make all? Any chance of expanding slightly? |
| 14:51.34 | abrotman | Bogaurd: did you load libapache-mod-php4 ? |
| 14:51.39 | asg | corpix_: ah, okay. |
| 14:51.55 | Bogaurd | abrotman: did i load? as in edit the httpd.conf? |
| 14:52.03 | Genghis_ | i'm wondering why my "who" on debian is being such a bitch |
| 14:52.07 | Genghis_ | its shows me sessions that have been ended weeks ago |
| 14:52.14 | abrotman | Bogaurd: well .. in the httpd.conf .. you need the AddType line .. |
| 14:52.30 | Bogaurd | abrotman: ah, i figured apt-get would do it all :P |
| 14:52.31 | Bogaurd | lol |
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| 14:53.09 | Eulex | J_t_M, m-a a-i linux-wlan-ng is shorthand for module-assistant auto-install linux-wlan-ng |
| 14:53.10 | asg | Genghis_: it is possible that you have corruption in /var/log/utmp or /var/log/wtmp. If those sessions didn't do cleanup, the logout records may not have been written. |
| 14:53.20 | J_t_M | Oh.. Cool :) |
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| 14:53.38 | Genghis_ | aha, cool, any idea on how to fix or prevent that in the future asg? |
| 14:53.46 | [FileFly] | hey again folks =) |
| 14:53.52 | [FileFly] | Another problem =( |
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| 14:54.08 | [FileFly] | DRI with an ATI Radeon 9600 Mobility |
| 14:54.13 | abrotman | no problems |
| 14:54.14 | asg | Genghis_: not really. Does 'w' show the correct info? |
| 14:54.15 | [FileFly] | How would one acchive that in Debian? =) |
| 14:54.21 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 14:54.21 | dpkg | i heard ati debs is http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 14:54.33 | Genghis_ | yeah asg |
| 14:55.01 | asg | Genghis_: where the sessions remote ones like ssh? |
| 14:55.07 | Genghis_ | jup |
| 14:55.20 | asg | Genghis_: see if there are any still hanging around. |
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| 14:55.40 | Genghis_ | what do you mean? lol |
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| 14:55.59 | asg | Genghis_: ps aux | grep sshd |
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| 14:56.05 | Bogaurd | aw god, i dunno how im gonna about setting this up. i've no idea when it comes to config files and such. how am i going to get my apache working together with php & mysql & ssl? =( |
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| 14:56.32 | jez | Is there a simple tool I can use to output the contents of a text file, with lines hard-wrapped at a certain umber of columns (eg. 80)? |
| 14:56.33 | abrotman | Bogaurd: go to php.net .. there's a single AddType line you need .. just put it at the bottom |
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| 14:56.50 | Bogaurd | abrotman: yeah, but that wont do the ssl =( |
| 14:56.58 | abrotman | wtf does PHP have to do with SSL ? |
| 14:57.02 | Genghis_ | a who shows me atm the current user i logged in with, then the user i logged in with on 9/11/05 and a user i logged in with at 29/10/05 @ asg |
| 14:57.09 | asg | jez: par |
| 14:57.12 | Bogaurd | abrotman: nothing, obviously. |
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| 14:57.33 | Bogaurd | abrotman: i just dunno how to setup apache with ssl. :( |
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| 14:57.44 | abrotman | Bogaurd: is this an SSL only site ? |
| 14:58.02 | Bogaurd | no, ssl and regular http |
| 14:58.10 | J_t_M | n |
| 14:58.19 | J_t_M | ls |
| 14:58.21 | J_t_M | Oops |
| 14:58.29 | Eulex | J_t_M, hehe, wrong window? |
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| 14:58.56 | J_t_M | Actually, I'm using ircii and did /help, now it's got a help? and won't go away! |
| 14:59.00 | J_t_M | LOL |
| 14:59.16 | abrotman | Bogaurd: there is plenty of documentation |
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| 14:59.27 | J_t_M | OK, so I've run m-a a-i linux-wlan-ng and now it's erroring looking for linux-image-2.6.12 |
| 14:59.33 | J_t_M | Which isn't available! |
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| 15:00.30 | J_t_M | Any suggestions? |
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| 15:01.21 | spriggsj | Oops |
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| 15:02.02 | Eulex | spriggsj, are you J_t_M? |
| 15:02.19 | J_t_M | yet |
| 15:02.22 | J_t_M | yep even :) |
| 15:02.44 | Eulex | you could try to go into /usr/src, extract the source tarball and compile it manually |
| 15:03.22 | Eulex | or if that doesn't succeed, download the upstream source of it and compile that. |
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| 15:04.31 | ziom | hi, is there a way to have both: libqt3-mt and libqt3c102-mt ? |
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| 15:04.56 | amorphix | abrotman: can you recommend one? my noatun used to play video but it doesnt since I reinstalled deb |
| 15:05.07 | Eulex | ziom, no, they conflict with each other |
| 15:05.14 | ziom | hmmm |
| 15:05.22 | ziom | i need f4l and quanta |
| 15:05.39 | asg | ziom: #debian-kde might know also |
| 15:05.47 | ziom | i do not use kde |
| 15:06.07 | asg | ziom: but these are all related to kde (qt, quanta, etc.) |
| 15:06.16 | J_t_M | But, I've got linux-image-2.6.12-2-686-smp, why does it need linux-image-2.6.12? |
| 15:06.18 | ziom | ok, i take a look |
| 15:06.27 | ziom | or maybe u know a alternative for f4l |
| 15:06.34 | ziom | so i do not need the c102 lib... |
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| 15:07.06 | amorphix | can you anyone recommend video player? my noatun used to play video but it doesnt since I reinstalled deb |
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| 15:07.18 | asg | amorphix: mplayer, xine |
| 15:07.18 | J_t_M | amorphix: try mplayer? |
| 15:07.33 | amorphix | thanks |
| 15:07.34 | ziom | f4l - is flash for linux - similar stuff to that of marcomedias but its free.. |
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| 15:07.38 | drasko | hi all. I have problems with X server. What is a program to configure x automaticly and sed bigger resolution... |
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| 15:07.47 | asg | !drxx drasko |
| 15:07.48 | dpkg | drasko: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 15:08.18 | asg | drasko: also, /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:08.33 | amorphix | strange but neither mplayer or xine are known package names in deb testing |
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| 15:08.48 | asg | amorphix: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 15:08.59 | asg | !info xine-ui testing |
| 15:08.59 | amorphix | merci |
| 15:09.28 | asg | amorphix: /msg dpkg why is xine-ui not in testing |
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| 15:10.08 | amorphix | is there actually a video player packaged in testing then |
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| 15:11.10 | asg | amorphix: may gxine (gtk2 interface to xine) |
| 15:11.15 | amorphix | how come noatun used to play videos and now it doesnt anymore? |
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| 15:11.38 | plbgnr | amorphix: apt-get.org ...search mplayer ...add to sources.list ... |
| 15:11.44 | asg | amorphix: testing isn't guaranteed to work |
| 15:11.49 | amorphix | well... |
| 15:12.07 | amorphix | i had naotun playing videos on testin until i reinstalled |
| 15:12.11 | abrotman | amorphix: there are quite a few |
| 15:12.13 | amorphix | maybe I'm missing something? |
| 15:12.24 | abrotman | amorphix: totem/kaffiene/xine |
| 15:12.29 | amorphix | ok |
| 15:12.32 | abrotman | !tell amorphix about mplayer |
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| 15:12.51 | cahoot | last time I looked (yesterday) there was no mplayer in marillat for etch |
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| 15:13.03 | amorphix | this sux |
| 15:13.05 | abrotman | so install the one for stable ? |
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| 15:13.40 | amorphix | i cant have this |
| 15:13.49 | cahoot | amorphix: no big deal compiling it if it's crucial |
| 15:13.54 | amorphix | ok |
| 15:14.06 | abrotman | totem works fine for me |
| 15:14.15 | amorphix | I think totem will have to do |
| 15:14.52 | plbgnr | Eulex: ok I did it all but I still have unmet dependencies by trying to install oo2 :/ (after apt-get update) |
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| 15:15.30 | ziom | amorphix, sux is a superuser tool with x, unless u dont need to run x-apps as root u dodnt need it |
| 15:15.31 | abrotman | !tell amorphix about w32codecs |
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| 15:16.00 | amorphix | ooo |
| 15:16.55 | Tortel | moOo |
| 15:16.57 | Tortel | !moo |
| 15:16.58 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 15:17.47 | Eulex | apt-build moo is fun too |
| 15:18.08 | Eulex | and don't miss aptitude moo, aptitiude moo -v aptitude moo -vv, aptitude moo -vvv etc |
| 15:18.18 | asg | shun the moo, install cowsay |
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| 15:19.04 | abrotman | filters! |
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| 15:19.19 | leafers | hi |
| 15:19.40 | leafers | i edited my xfree86-4 file |
| 15:19.52 | leafers | and now i can't start my x server |
| 15:20.00 | leafers | how do i get x back |
| 15:20.02 | asg | !drxx leafers |
| 15:20.03 | dpkg | leafers: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:20.13 | leafers | did that |
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| 15:20.19 | abrotman | how many damn times a week will a new udev be imposed upon me! |
| 15:20.21 | leafers | there is no X file |
| 15:20.28 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 15:20.28 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 15:20.37 | asg | leafers: the last part of the factoid is for you then |
| 15:20.40 | Eulex | leafers, there is no spoon either |
| 15:20.50 | eegore_ | who do I talk to about becoming an authorized tor user in this channel |
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| 15:21.08 | abrotman | eegore_: afaik .. you can't .. ever |
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| 15:22.42 | leafers | !xmd5 |
| 15:22.42 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
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| 15:23.05 | drasko | can anyone tell me some program thet would automaticly configure my X. Now I have awful resolution 600X400, and it is all blurry. I just installed Debian Sarge, desktop environment, but the screen looks really ugly... |
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| 15:23.34 | leafers | what is !xmd5 |
| 15:23.35 | asg | !drxx drasko |
| 15:23.36 | dpkg | drasko: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 15:23.43 | asg | drasko: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 15:23.53 | asg | leafers: a bot factoid |
| 15:23.58 | J_t_M | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.59 | asg | leafers: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 15:24.02 | eegore_ | abrotman: I am not a spammer, the only spam I has si served fried up with my eggs bacon and sausage and spam spam spam |
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| 15:25.03 | leafers | ok |
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| 15:25.08 | drasko | asg, I started dpkg-reconfigure. But do you knov what the driver should I choose for Nvidia G-Force 2? |
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| 15:25.12 | leafers | but i am missing the file X |
| 15:25.14 | lux` | oh cazzo :D |
| 15:25.21 | asg | drasko: nv |
| 15:25.25 | leafers | it is not there in /etc/X11 |
| 15:25.26 | asg | leafers: touch <file> |
| 15:25.33 | asg | leafers: then follow the rest of the factoid |
| 15:25.40 | leafers | ok |
| 15:25.41 | drasko | asg, thanks! |
| 15:25.53 | leafers | do i need my sources to work |
| 15:26.08 | asg | leafers: sources? |
| 15:26.08 | [scaccomatto] | lux`: che carnaio XD |
| 15:26.15 | lux` | essi :D |
| 15:26.17 | leafers | i did all this trying to install an nvidia video card |
| 15:26.22 | lux` | troppi ma troppi |
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| 15:26.43 | lux` | a volte sembra che hai aperto un file binario, nel senzo che si scrivono 10 messaggi al sec. |
| 15:26.49 | leafers | the way i connect to the internet ftp.debian.org |
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| 15:27.06 | leafers | atp/sources.list |
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| 15:27.07 | asg | !tell lux` about it |
| 15:27.19 | leafers | anyway i am in windows now |
| 15:27.22 | asg | leafers: that has nothing to do with reconfiguring X |
| 15:27.25 | Tortel | !windows |
| 15:27.25 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
| 15:27.27 | eegore_ | anyway back to an original reason I am here, I am getting ready to build up a system using an Athy 64 and I know I will need to multiboot between 64 and thirty two bit operation. does anyone have any suggestions as to the order of install? |
| 15:27.27 | leafers | so i have to switch |
| 15:27.29 | lux` | lol asg |
| 15:27.32 | leafers | thx |
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| 15:28.16 | eegore_ | I will still need to load winblows for Autocad unfortunatly since I work at home |
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| 15:28.44 | abrotman | eegore_: you mean .. you need 32bit and 64bit linux ? |
| 15:28.53 | eegore_ | yep |
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| 15:29.14 | abrotman | eegore_: i know you're not a spammer .. but we've had a fair share of people using tor to spam us .. |
| 15:29.18 | eegore_ | I have it on authority that there is a deficiency of 64 bit packages |
| 15:29.29 | abrotman | eegore_: other than install windows first? .. i don't think it matters |
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| 15:29.55 | yxa | this is gpg related. is it possible to change the name and email of an already-created keypair? |
| 15:30.00 | eegore_ | I am stuck putting two versions of windows on as wel;l |
| 15:30.09 | cast | yxa: yes, mildly |
| 15:30.10 | eegore_ | so that sucks big time |
| 15:30.13 | J_t_M | Anyone know an easy way of obtaining the pkg linux-image-2.6.12? |
| 15:30.17 | cast | yxa: you can create a new uid and revoke the old one |
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| 15:30.24 | abrotman | eegore_: why? .. 64bit windows will run 32bit apps .. (and 64bit linux can have a 32bit chroot) |
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| 15:31.09 | eegore_ | I heard 64 bit windows was buggy |
| 15:31.10 | yxa | cast i need the keypair to be exactly the same after the name change for certain reasons |
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| 15:31.16 | abrotman | eegore_: windows is buggy |
| 15:31.34 | eegore_ | that is a given but buggy for windows |
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| 15:31.58 | abrotman | eegore_: you can run 32bit linux apps in a chroot on top of your 64bit linux |
| 15:32.01 | cast | yxa: well, the keys themselves will be the same keys as before, but the whole package would have changed [a extra [2?] sig packets, a extra uid packet] |
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| 15:32.22 | cast | yxa: what are the certain reasons? |
| 15:32.44 | BlueWings | how do I find out what device the usb flash device is? (if I want to mount it...) |
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| 15:32.50 | abrotman | dmesg |
| 15:32.56 | eegore_ | can this be done at the desktop level? |
| 15:32.58 | yxa | cast certain management people do not want to mess with the keyserver |
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| 15:33.19 | eegore_ | on 32 window and one 64? |
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| 15:33.29 | abrotman | eegore_: i think so .. ask #debian-amd64 for more specifics |
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| 15:33.53 | row_ | Does 2.6.12 kernel have the l7-classifier patch in it or must it be patched? |
| 15:33.57 | abrotman | eegore_: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianAMD64 |
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| 15:34.03 | BlueWings | abrotman, I tried dmesg, but I could not figure it out through that... |
| 15:34.08 | eegore_ | I figure with 4 gigs of ram, I should not run out of resources |
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| 15:34.20 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 15:34.25 | abrotman | bluestrain: are you sure it's being seen at all ? |
| 15:34.26 | gigabytes | I need some help |
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| 15:34.38 | abrotman | !give gigabytes some help |
| 15:34.39 | dpkg | give gigabytes some help |
| 15:34.49 | abrotman | dpkg: sad |
| 15:34.49 | dpkg | from memory, sad is this channel most of the time |
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| 15:34.54 | stew | excellent bot utilization |
| 15:35.04 | abrotman | !eat stew |
| 15:35.07 | gigabytes | is there a guide on how to make a custom netinstall cd with a custom kernel image?? |
| 15:35.18 | abrotman | !custom netinst |
| 15:35.18 | dpkg | i heard custom netinst is http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers or http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/ or http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD |
| 15:35.18 | stew | gigabytes: /msg dpkg custom d-i |
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| 15:35.32 | drasko | asg, can you tell me again abut configuring X automatically. dpkg-reconfigure did not do nothing... |
| 15:35.36 | cast | yxa: is this the keyservers key? |
| 15:35.43 | gigabytes | thatk you very much |
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| 15:36.10 | eegore_ | My poor eyes, I have been reading for the past few days on doing this |
| 15:36.17 | amorphix | I've got a thermometer outside my place here, and its 1 degree C outside |
| 15:36.25 | BlueWings | abrotman, it says usb device assigned address 3 but the next line says it is not claimed by any active driver |
| 15:36.36 | eegore_ | no wonder I have bad eyes |
| 15:36.43 | abrotman | !usb-storage |
| 15:36.43 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 15:36.44 | amorphix | poor eegore |
| 15:36.47 | crn | will aptitude install source and headers for kernel 2.6 when it installs the package kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686? |
| 15:37.00 | asg | drasko: you have to answer the questions correctly. |
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| 15:37.11 | amorphix | i'm gonna go for a curry that should warm things up a bit |
| 15:37.14 | BlueWings | thank you |
| 15:37.20 | BlueWings | let me try that out. |
| 15:37.31 | eegore_ | abrotman: which would you recomend sarge or etch |
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| 15:37.40 | cast | crn: if its configured to grab 'suggests' itll get the kernel source |
| 15:37.43 | yxa | cast yeah |
| 15:37.55 | abrotman | eegore_: depends on the use |
| 15:37.57 | crn | cast, thanks |
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| 15:38.11 | J_t_M | doing apt-get install linux-image-2.6.12 returns Package linux-image-2.6.12 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 15:38.17 | J_t_M | How do I work around it? |
| 15:38.32 | eegore_ | general purpose desktop with some gaming and support for the hdtv3000 capture card |
| 15:38.45 | abrotman | eegore_: and how familiar are you with debian ? |
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| 15:38.54 | stew | J_t_M: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 15:39.04 | stew | J_t_M: and what cpu do you have? |
| 15:39.05 | cast | yxa: if you revoke the uid you'll lose all the sigs on it [i believe sigs are on uids? im not sure, best to check with someone who can remember things], *that* might annoy management |
| 15:39.15 | tarzeau | @popcon |
| 15:39.26 | eegore_ | I was using sarge 32 when it was testing and mangled it a couple of times and was able to recover it |
| 15:39.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: guitar shop! |
| 15:39.35 | tarzeau | abrotman: on sunday, all shops are closed |
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| 15:39.50 | tarzeau | and guitars don't exist in nethack shops |
| 15:39.54 | abrotman | tarzeau: open them ? |
| 15:40.02 | yxa | cast but keypair generation does not involve the "username" and "email", does it? |
| 15:40.07 | tarzeau | abrotman: no personnel... |
| 15:40.10 | gigabytes | excuse me |
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| 15:40.21 | abrotman | tarzeau: open them! |
| 15:40.27 | gigabytes | is there a prebuilt 2.6.14 kernel image? |
| 15:40.31 | amorphix | the only thing keeping me warm is the heat from my monitor |
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| 15:40.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'd risk getting in prison, for nothing |
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| 15:40.46 | amorphix | i'm just glad i dont have any lcd |
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| 15:40.53 | J_t_M | Stew: I've got a 686-SMP kernel. I've got the linux-image-2.6.12-2-686-smp kernel installed, but linux-wlan-ng requires linux-image-2.6.12 |
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| 15:40.58 | asg | amorphix: another good reason to buy a laptop |
| 15:40.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: an illegal act must be profitable, so you don't ever have to do it again in your life |
| 15:41.02 | abrotman | tarzeau: before you go to prison .. can you send me the guitar ? |
| 15:41.06 | tarzeau | abrotman: like a bank or post office with lots of money |
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| 15:41.15 | amorphix | i have a laptop but cannot use it right now, needs reinstalling :-/ |
| 15:41.17 | tarzeau | abrotman: heh, which guitar would you like? |
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| 15:41.24 | cast | yxa: in the case of gpg --gen-key it does, in the case of gpg --edit-key;addkey it doesn't |
| 15:41.24 | amorphix | maybe i should do it |
| 15:41.31 | abrotman | tarzeau: the one you're supposed to be taking to the shop |
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| 15:41.35 | thingfish | he wants all your vintage martins. |
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| 15:41.45 | tarzeau | abrotman: ah that one... where to? |
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| 15:41.51 | abrotman | thingfish: he has no martins |
| 15:41.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: my house of course |
| 15:41.58 | thingfish | :( |
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| 15:42.03 | tarzeau | abrotman: postal address? |
| 15:42.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: are you going to send it ? |
| 15:42.32 | ersdfeef | Hi guys. I'd like to install a different motherboard in my computer. How do I prepare Linux for that? |
| 15:42.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: i can write my testament to have the guitar sent to you, once i don't exist anymore (or if i get to prison) |
| 15:42.33 | asg | amorphix: turn it on, stick a live-cd in, then run 'for i in $(seq 1 10000) ; do find / -name "*.$i" ; done' That should keep your legs toasty for a little bit |
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| 15:42.42 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh .. |
| 15:42.47 | tarzeau | abrotman: unless i can take the guitar with me into prison ;) |
| 15:42.49 | abrotman | tarzeau: i'm sure you'll outlive me |
| 15:42.53 | stew | J_t_M: 2.6.12-2-smp IS 2.6.12 |
| 15:42.55 | yxa | cast i remember the issue the management was thinking. they dont want to go through the trouble of sending keys to the opposite party again. |
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| 15:43.04 | eegore_ | abrotman: I should be ok with etch then? |
| 15:43.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: you can't ever know such things |
| 15:43.13 | tarzeau | abrotman: what's your age again? |
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| 15:43.24 | abrotman | eegore_: can you fix debian when it breaks ? |
| 15:43.28 | Aerk | Has anyone else noticed problems with kernel 2.6.14? |
| 15:43.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: 29 .. ack .. i'm so damn old |
| 15:43.48 | tarzeau | abrotman: 2 years difference. not that much |
| 15:43.53 | thingfish | 29 isn't old at all. |
| 15:43.56 | asg | Aerk: yes, shfs segfaults when you try to umount or mv files from mounted filesystems |
| 15:44.01 | Aerk | With kernel 2.6.14, my Thinkpad R30 suffers seemingly random crashes. |
| 15:44.29 | cast | yxa: you might want to make a post to the gnupg mailing list :) |
| 15:44.32 | tarzeau | Aerk: what video driver? |
| 15:44.34 | asg | Aerk: if you get an oops in your logs, file a bug and include it |
| 15:44.38 | Aerk | tarzeau: Trident. |
| 15:44.45 | tarzeau | Aerk: you're kidding, right? |
| 15:44.59 | Aerk | After using ACPI, the laptop becomes less stable. |
| 15:45.13 | yxa | cast there has got to be a way of generating the same exact keypair with a new username :) |
| 15:45.28 | Aerk | Maybe the fan doesn't come back on after I resume. |
| 15:45.36 | bbrazil | yxa: if you have the private key you can add a uid |
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| 15:45.51 | asg | Aerk: ACPI generally is faulty for suspend/resume. If the IBM supports APM, use that instead. |
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| 15:45.59 | asg | Aerk: APM was rock solid on my R40 |
| 15:46.01 | bbrazil | yxa: upload to a keyserver and you're done |
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| 15:46.11 | cast | yxa: not if the public keys been distributed already with the uid you want to get rid of, you can deluid it..but that doesnt work well since its still on keyservers the world over |
| 15:46.14 | Aerk | asg: I'll use APM then. |
| 15:46.17 | asg | Aerk: boot with acpi=off |
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| 15:46.28 | asg | Aerk: adding 'noapic' also might help with stability |
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| 15:46.33 | blondie | FFS |
| 15:46.33 | ersdfeef | Hi guys. I'd like to install a different motherboard in my computer. How do I prepare Linux for that? |
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| 15:46.47 | blondie | what's that ops command? |
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| 15:46.54 | abrotman | why? |
| 15:46.56 | bbrazil | ersdfeef: assuming you're using a stock debian kernel and not using odd hardware, it should just work |
| 15:46.56 | Aerk | APM wouldn't suspend my laptop correctly with the stock Debian kernel image, but IIRC special IBM stuff has to be compiled to get it to work. |
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| 15:47.06 | blondie | grrr |
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| 15:47.12 | cast | yxa: so the only option that i see is to revoke it and create a new one, but i don't know what thats going to do with your accumulated sigs |
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| 15:47.14 | asg | ersdfeef: as long as the mobo is supprted, you shouldn't have to do anything special |
| 15:47.15 | abrotman | blondie: are you getting spammed ? |
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| 15:47.30 | blondie | abrotman: I'm getting spammed by join/part |
| 15:47.38 | bbrazil | ersdfeef: one thing to watch for is network cards or disks being swapped |
| 15:47.38 | abrotman | blondie: what's your client ? |
| 15:47.40 | J_t_M | Stew: Thanks for the tip - sorry for the delay, trying to get it to work :) |
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| 15:47.42 | blondie | irssi |
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| 15:47.51 | asg | ersdfeef: unlike Windows, you can take a pre-existing linux install on a harddrive and connect it to new mobos without having to re-install. |
| 15:47.52 | blondie | (I don't like ignoring part/join) |
| 15:47.53 | abrotman | blondie: i think it's /ignore JOIN PART |
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| 15:48.01 | blondie | yeah but I don't like to ignore them :\ |
| 15:48.06 | Aerk | ersdfeef: If you replace the motherboard, you'll need to reactivate your license with the toll free number corresponding with your country, as that is a significant change that would cause anti piracy measures to be triggered. |
| 15:48.07 | abrotman | blondie: then find a staff member and have them start klining |
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| 15:48.09 | asg | blondie: then deal or write a script to filter them out |
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| 15:48.42 | blondie | hmm I guess ignoring just join/part where it's an IP and not a hostname would do |
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| 15:48.57 | Aerk | ersdfeef: |
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| 15:49.17 | asg | blondie: or write an irssi script to only show a single join/part no matter how many occur in a certain temporal threshold |
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| 15:49.25 | Aerk | ersdfeef: You may need to recompile the kernel at most. |
| 15:49.45 | abrotman | blondie: ask .. uhm .. peterS for his script to ignore them |
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| 15:50.28 | asg | blondie: hang on, I'll post a copy of his script |
| 15:50.31 | bizkit | i've created an iso image with mkisofs and burned it with cdrecord. now when i mount the cd, there's only crap on it. ls says Input/output error when on the mounted cd! what can i do? what's the reason for this? i ran mkisofs in verbose mode, no problems. |
| 15:51.09 | bbrazil | bizkit: could just be a bad cd |
| 15:51.16 | bizkit | bbrazil: its the second now |
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| 15:51.27 | bizkit | mkisofs -A "gpgkeys" -V "gpgkeys" -R -v -o gpgkeys.iso /home/bla/PGPKEYS this was the command |
| 15:51.40 | abrotman | bizkit: what speed did you burn it ? |
| 15:51.46 | bbrazil | bizkit: ah , could be a bad batch :), any warnings from cdrecord? |
| 15:51.55 | bizkit | abrotman: auto |
| 15:52.01 | bizkit | i think it was 52 |
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| 15:52.11 | abrotman | bizkit: some isos don't take well to being burnt at high speed |
| 15:52.28 | bbrazil | can you get cd-r that burn at 52? |
| 15:52.35 | thingfish | yes |
| 15:52.44 | bizkit | bbrazil: yes the cd-r is up to 52x |
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| 15:53.04 | abrotman | ok .. fine .. ignore me :) |
| 15:53.07 | bbrazil | bizkit: I'd try something like 8 |
| 15:54.24 | asg | blondie: http://gimp.shacknet.nu/code/debian/nospambot (rename it to nospambot.pl) |
| 15:54.24 | bizkit | well, cdrecord is the patched debian version 2.01.01a01 |
| 15:54.24 | abrotman | the techniques that burners use to go above .. like 16 .. not good for ISOs |
| 15:54.24 | bizkit | abrotman: ok, i'll try it with 8x |
| 15:54.26 | zOap | anyone remember the line for adding a second bin / sbin location? and where to put it to get it permanently? |
| 15:54.26 | ersdfeef | okay, thank you everyone. Windows is a real pain when switching mobos, so really I appreciate all of the help and am happy that Debian and the Linux community actually care about the users of their software. Thank you deeply. |
| 15:54.27 | abrotman | zOap: you mean your path ? |
| 15:54.27 | asg | zOap: adding to what? for what purpose? |
| 15:54.27 | bbrazil | zOap: /etc/profile if you use bash |
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| 15:54.57 | zOap | abrotman, asg bbrazil : yes, thank you:) |
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| 15:57.12 | bizkit | btw. bbrazil, abrotman i get an error from cdrecord but it still burns: Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? .. but i run cdrecord as root |
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| 15:58.02 | amorphix | how do you guys keep warm |
| 15:58.12 | asg | amorphix: blankets, laptops, paying the heating bill |
| 15:58.13 | thingfish | amorphix: space heaters. |
| 15:58.20 | yxa | turn on the heater? |
| 15:58.33 | jelly | being in love? ;-) |
| 15:58.37 | amorphix | hehe |
| 15:58.38 | thingfish | hehe |
| 15:58.38 | asg | !jelly++ |
| 15:58.38 | beardy | turn off the cpufan? |
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| 15:59.03 | thingfish | amorphix: eat some nice hot soup. |
| 15:59.04 | Eulex | turn off speedstep? |
| 15:59.13 | sfullenwider | Anybody know of a decent torrent client in linux? |
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| 15:59.18 | amorphix | all good suggestions |
| 15:59.23 | Eulex | sfullenwider, bittornado |
| 15:59.34 | jelly | azureus works for me |
| 15:59.39 | Pyrotas | hi |
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| 16:00.08 | diana | I have a script that runs to make my internet work....I added a /etc/rc2.dS?? file to make it run....I know the script runs because I made a confirmation |
| 16:00.11 | diana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:00.14 | diana | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:01.03 | TheCount | diana: different $PATH ? |
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| 16:01.09 | Eulex | diana, maybe it runs to early? |
| 16:01.13 | amorphix | I have timeshifting TV and i like it |
| 16:01.16 | diana | TheCount: THe script is in /etc/init.d |
| 16:01.30 | TheCount | diana: .. but the binaries it is calling may be not |
| 16:01.50 | diana | Eulex: I thought of that...Eulex I originally had it in /etc/rcS.dS10???? but then I moved it to my runlevel...and made it last....but it still doesn't work. |
| 16:02.26 | Eulex | diana, what do you need to run to make internet work? |
| 16:02.54 | aynjrz | Monitor loses signal when switch from X to a terminal on my Mac Mini with Etch- can anyone help? |
| 16:03.05 | bizkit | burning the image with 4x speed did not help. same problem |
| 16:03.12 | Eulex | diana, if it ain't too exotic it can be done through /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:04.11 | blondie | asg: I think that would require me to be an op? |
| 16:05.14 | bbrazil | blondie: a quick peek says its just a message filter |
| 16:05.17 | bizkit | abrotman, bbrazil? perhaps the image is broken? how can i mount it using a loop device? it has no joliet extensions only RR so do you have an idea? |
| 16:05.29 | Eulex | diana, ? |
| 16:05.32 | diana | Eulex: I know...but I couldn't figure out that syntax and all that crap. |
| 16:05.33 | bbrazil | bizkit: mount -o loop iso /mnt |
| 16:05.38 | drasko | Hi all. I just canged Driver in XF86Config file to nv. How can I now restart X to see if this works? |
| 16:05.39 | abrotman | bizkit: you mount it over the loop device |
| 16:05.41 | omry_ | how do I check the physical surface of an hd? |
| 16:05.43 | Eulex | diana, man interfaces |
| 16:05.47 | diana | interfaces didn't make sense to me...so I just wanted to make a script |
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| 16:05.53 | diana | Eulex: i did that |
| 16:06.08 | bbrazil | omry_: man fsck, make sure to read the warnings |
| 16:06.27 | diana | Eulex: What is the service(script) that runs interfaces? |
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| 16:06.49 | bbrazil | diana: just add a pre-up /path/to/script under the relavent interface |
| 16:06.53 | Eulex | diana, man interfaces, man wireless for syntax info |
| 16:07.10 | omry_ | bbrazil, thanks. |
| 16:07.14 | diana | bbrazil: I can only have pre-up lines? |
| 16:07.20 | Eulex | diana, it's read by /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 16:07.30 | leafers | did not work |
| 16:07.37 | diana | yea, I made it so that script didn't run...so my script would run. |
| 16:07.57 | bbrazil | diana: you can have all the usual lines too |
| 16:07.58 | XTF | Hi. How do I get things like $(DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) in my environment? |
| 16:08.00 | aynjrz | drasko: I think CTRL+ALT+backspace restarts X, though it also logs you out of your session |
| 16:08.01 | Eulex | diana, you still want to have it run for lo |
| 16:08.20 | leafers | i have a pastebin of the log |
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| 16:08.24 | leafers | is alex here |
| 16:08.30 | dli | diana : you may put your pre-up line in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:08.32 | Eulex | diana, again, what do you have to run to make internet work? |
| 16:08.36 | Eulex | leafers, me? |
| 16:08.36 | blondie | I'm called alex :P |
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| 16:08.45 | amphi | diana: man waproamd, waproamd.conf too perhaps |
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| 16:09.03 | leafers | the one that told me about md5sum |
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| 16:09.41 | leafers | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:09.58 | bizkit | well, thats a nice idea for the next time joining #debian. i'll use the name of a girl instead, perhaps this way i can get more answers ;P |
| 16:10.00 | leafers | i tried that |
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| 16:10.09 | diana | Eulex: yes |
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| 16:10.31 | leafers | i have a pastbin |
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| 16:10.36 | wang | how do you restart samba? |
| 16:10.36 | leafers | pastebin |
| 16:10.39 | bbrazil | wang: still liking irssi? |
| 16:10.47 | bbrazil | /etc/init.d/samba restart |
| 16:10.58 | leafers | cannot start x |
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| 16:11.04 | leafers | the file x is missing |
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| 16:11.16 | wang | bbrazil : i use it on another network, but by default i have a shell script that runs a bunch of screened bitchx sessions, when i get used to irssi i'll merge =) |
| 16:11.18 | dli | leafers, startx |
| 16:11.21 | wang | bbrazil: thanks |
| 16:11.24 | Dodger | hi all, I have a debian server that I've been happily using, and as I was always having trouble having enough space on it, I finally decided to remove the Win2K parititon on it. After removing it (with parted) I've managed to totally pooch my system. I can't boot it or figure out how to get the bootloader going, although if I boot with an old mandrake install cd I have, I'm able to mount the debian filesystem and it looks ok. How would I go about fixing m |
| 16:11.24 | Dodger | y bootload (I've been reading about lilo which I was usng and am unsure how to force it into the MBR) |
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| 16:11.28 | afabian | bizkit, yet another strategy is to be a flaming lamer. "Your software doesn't work, you are the suX0r!" Then the people bend over backwards to prove that you're an idiot, and in doing so, solve your problem. I saw this postulated once, didn't believe it, tried it.. worked liked a charm. |
| 16:11.39 | leafers | i tried to hand edit xf86config-4 |
| 16:11.53 | leafers | now cannot start x |
| 16:11.58 | leafers | x is missing |
| 16:12.08 | bbrazil | Dodger: just run 'lilo' from within a chroot of your debian system, should do it |
| 16:12.08 | diana | Eulex: I made a interfaces script to check eth0 and see if I have a cable plugged in first(I usually don't) ... but that took too long to realized that eth0 wasn't working...and then try ath0 .. but trying to get eth0 to work took like 40 seconds...and it was killing my boottime...and eth0 wasn't even plugged in. |
| 16:12.09 | dli | leafers, don't do that, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:12.16 | leafers | did that |
| 16:12.19 | leafers | did not work |
| 16:12.22 | leafers | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:12.27 | diana | So I tried to make my own networking script...but it won't work...It's the same shit I run as root once my fluxbox starts.. |
| 16:12.28 | bbrazil | diana: you may want to change the install line from say =/dev/hda1 to /dev/hda |
| 16:12.33 | bbrazil | Dodger: ^ |
| 16:12.36 | diana | But it won't work when I have it run as a service. |
| 16:12.50 | Dodger | bbrazil: I tried that, I have it set to load the the beginning of my debian partition (hda3), and when booting all I'd get is a stream of "0"'s |
| 16:12.54 | leafers | i looked there is no x file |
| 16:13.02 | leafers | the file X is missing |
| 16:13.12 | dli | leafers, apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 16:13.13 | bbrazil | Dodger: hmm, bootable flag set on hda3? |
| 16:13.15 | bizkit | afabian: heh :) |
| 16:13.23 | leafers | ok |
| 16:13.23 | omry_ | bbrazil, fsck has nothing about surface test. |
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| 16:13.36 | bbrazil | omry_: detructive write test - should be there |
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| 16:13.47 | Dodger | bbrazil: oops, I lie... I get a stream of " 40 "'s when I try to boot |
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| 16:13.59 | leafers | will try that |
| 16:14.05 | bbrazil | omry_: ah - try badblocks |
| 16:14.07 | xoz | diana: did you check the order of your network... it may need other things to startup. can you place its order at the last of the init startup process? |
| 16:14.17 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
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| 16:14.24 | leafers | pastebin # |
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| 16:14.26 | bbrazil | Dodger: I uesed to know exactly what that meant |
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| 16:14.47 | bbrazil | Dodger: how much of 'lilo' does it print before that? |
| 16:14.50 | Brox | how can i start dhclient at every boot? |
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| 16:14.57 | leafers | xfree86 log |
| 16:14.58 | omry_ | bbrazil, ah, thats sounds more like it. |
| 16:14.59 | bbrazil | Brox: man 5 interfaces |
| 16:15.05 | Dodger | bbrazil: I'm quite sure that I had the bootable flag set on hda3 (I definitely did at one point, tried moving it to /hda1 to see if that'd work, checking right now if its back) |
| 16:15.22 | leafers | does anyone want to look at it? |
| 16:15.27 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
| 16:15.32 | xoz | Brox: /etc/init.d/networking start |
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| 16:15.34 | bbrazil | Dodger: of course the boot flag depends on the usual MS bootloader being on hda |
| 16:15.59 | xoz | Brox: but you have to configure /etc/network/interfaces to use dhcp instead of static address |
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| 16:16.12 | dli | leafers: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:16.14 | Dodger | bbrazil: yeah, I'm worried I screwed that up... when I was playing with parted I *think* I might have taken out more then I should have) |
| 16:16.31 | bbrazil | Dodger: if you look in /boot there should be an old copy of the boot sector |
| 16:16.32 | dli | leafers, if you don't know how to, don't edit it manually |
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| 16:16.43 | bbrazil | Dodger: I'd suggest just installing lilo on hda |
| 16:16.46 | leafers | right or back it up |
| 16:16.51 | leafers | first |
| 16:16.58 | leafers | d'oh |
| 16:17.06 | dli | leafers, it doesn't matter |
| 16:17.25 | leafers | going to try apt-get |
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| 16:17.56 | Dodger | bbrazil: it gets tries to boot from my cd drive, fails, then prints "L 40 40 40 40...." |
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| 16:19.02 | blondie | ffs |
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| 16:19.05 | bbrazil | Dodger: http://www.preggers.easynet.be/lilo.html |
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| 16:19.33 | Dodger | bbrazil: reading it now, thanks for the pointer! |
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| 16:20.09 | bbrazil | Dodger: hmm - hda3 starts after 1024 cylindars? |
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| 16:20.25 | bbrazil | Dodger: also how old is this system? |
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| 16:21.03 | Dodger | bbrazil: yes, definitely... I had /hda1 was my Win2K (that i wiped out with parted), /hda2 is my swap, /hda3 is ext2 with debian and /hda4 used to be a shared vfat, that I also blew away with parted |
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| 16:21.44 | bbrazil | Dodger: I'd say create a 32MB /boot partition as hda |
| 16:21.57 | bbrazil | *hda1 |
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| 16:22.08 | Dodger | bbrazil: its old... it kept working so I didn't bother upgrading... |
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| 16:22.31 | Dodger | bbrazil: I *THINK* its a 2.2.20 kernel |
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| 16:22.43 | Dodger | bbrazil: (that's what's in the /boot anyway) |
| 16:22.50 | bbrazil | Dodger: you're probably hitting the 1024 limit then, I vaguely remember dealing with it. kernel is irrelavnet - its a bios problem |
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| 16:23.22 | Dodger | bbrazil: the bios is VERY old... I had this system before DVD drives were available |
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| 16:23.39 | bbrazil | Dodger: other option is to boot off floppy |
| 16:23.51 | Dodger | bbrazil: I moved a copy of /hda3 to /hda1 and tried booting from that but couldn't... |
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| 16:23.54 | aimtrainer | hi! I just discovert that my box cant read audio cds. Is there a way to make it read them? actually I wanna rip the cd. |
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| 16:24.06 | bbrazil | Dodger: you sure your lilo.conf was right? |
| 16:24.08 | Daemonic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:24.21 | gigabytes | excuse me |
| 16:24.23 | Dodger | bbrazil: I looked at floppies and was going to try that, but I couldn't find instructions to fairly easily create a boot floppy... |
| 16:24.33 | gigabytes | can I install a kernel deb of a different architecture? |
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| 16:24.35 | cahoot | aimtrainer: how did you discover that? |
| 16:24.42 | Dodger | bbrazil: fairly sure, it was working before I started playing with my partitions... |
| 16:25.00 | aimtrainer | cahoot I tried to read one ^^ |
| 16:25.08 | bbrazil | Dodger: then it would still have been pointing at hda3. that it worked before is odd |
| 16:25.11 | stew | gigabytes: why would you want to? |
| 16:25.26 | Dodger | bbrazil: just checked my lilo and it was pointing at /dev/hda3... |
| 16:25.28 | cahoot | aimtrainer: you don't mean you tried to mount it then? |
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| 16:25.47 | Dodger | bbrazil: now that I'm thinking about it, I SEEM to remember doing something wonky to get win2k and debian to both boot... |
| 16:25.54 | gigabytes | stew, I'm building an installer cd with a custom kernel |
| 16:26.07 | Dodger | bbrazil: so maybe I wasn't using this lilo.conf... |
| 16:26.18 | gigabytes | but it is a ppc image and I'm building it on a x86 PC |
| 16:26.27 | aimtrainer | cahoot yes I did |
| 16:26.38 | aimtrainer | whats wrong about that? |
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| 16:26.45 | stew | gigabytes: are you following the custom netinst instructions? |
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| 16:26.52 | cahoot | aimtrainer: you ccan't mount audio cd - install abcde and rip it |
| 16:26.55 | gigabytes | stew, yes |
| 16:27.08 | stew | gigabytes: and they tell you to install a kenrel .deb? |
| 16:27.09 | gigabytes | and it says to install the deb package |
| 16:27.10 | aimtrainer | ok thx |
| 16:27.13 | bbrazil | Dodger: if you google you'll probably find something on it - this sort of thing can be quite intricate to setup |
| 16:27.14 | drasko | hi all. I have problem with X driver. Putting vga gives me graned picture in 600x400 resolution. Putting vesa gives me graind picture with yellow collors, and nv driver just wont work. I have Ge Force 2 card. |
| 16:27.17 | cahoot | aimtrainer: or a player if that'ss what you want to do |
| 16:27.19 | gigabytes | stew, at least I understood this |
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| 16:27.27 | gigabytes | have I misunderstood? |
| 16:27.35 | bbrazil | Dodger: essentially, make sure that lilo picks up the right partition for your images (lilo -v should tell you) |
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| 16:28.17 | bluestrain | I've attempted to create virtual host in apache2, but when I activate my new host by linking it in /etc/apache2/enabled-sites, it breaks the original config |
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| 16:28.28 | Dodger | bbrazil: ok... will try to sort it out... I changed lilo to /hda1 and its now giving me a new error code (01) do you have a pointer for instructions on easily setting up a boot disk for my system by any chance? :-) |
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| 16:28.54 | bbrazil | Dodger: afraid not |
| 16:28.58 | stew | gigabytes: do you need to actually build a new kernel? or are you trying to make an installer with a different prepackaged kernel? |
| 16:29.12 | Dodger | bbrazil: ok, thanks for your help! |
| 16:29.14 | gigabytes | stew, a different prepackaged kernel |
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| 16:29.49 | drasko | I have problem with X driver. Putting vga gives me graned picture in 600x400 resolution. Putting vesa gives me graind picture with yellow collors, and nv driver just wont work. I have Ge Force 2 card. WHAT DRIVER SHOULD I CHOOSE? |
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| 16:30.03 | bbrazil | nv |
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| 16:30.23 | drasko | bbrazil, but X crashes then... |
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| 16:30.34 | stew | gigabytes: you should just be searching for pre-built .udebs on debian.org then |
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| 16:30.52 | stew | gigabytes: and no, you don't need to install anything on the local machine |
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| 16:30.56 | leafers | ok apt-get did not work |
| 16:31.01 | Eulex | drasko, repeating won't help you, yelling won't help you either |
| 16:31.13 | bbrazil | drasko: works fine on my Geforce2 Titanium here, maybe you need to do some debugging |
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| 16:31.19 | leafers | says i already have the latest upgrade |
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| 16:31.36 | Eulex | drasko, check the X log |
| 16:31.43 | leafers | of x-windows-system-core |
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| 16:31.57 | leafers | did anyone look at my pastebin |
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| 16:32.19 | drasko | Eulex, I did not want to yell... |
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| 16:32.25 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
| 16:32.50 | Eulex | drasko, caps is considered yelling |
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| 16:32.54 | leafers | that is the log |
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| 16:33.00 | leafers | no x server |
| 16:33.11 | exalted | Hi. I've skiped network conf. while installing system. How to run network conf. wizard now? |
| 16:33.13 | leafers | something about the default monitor |
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| 16:33.48 | TheCount | exalted: man interfaces |
| 16:33.48 | bluestrain | I've copied the default file in /etc/apache2/sites-available to my new vserver, changed the DocumentRoot, and created the appropriate files in /var/www. When I attempt to access the original server, the error log has a reference to incomplete referer module errors? |
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| 16:33.53 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
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| 16:34.10 | exalted | TheCount: Manual configuration? |
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| 16:34.36 | leafers | i edited my xf86config-4 file |
| 16:34.46 | leafers | now cannot get x back |
| 16:34.50 | leafers | x is missing |
| 16:35.08 | eegore_ | abrotman: etch64 of the netinstall should be ok right? |
| 16:35.21 | leafers | i ran dpkg-reconfig xserver-xfree86 |
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| 16:35.24 | loxley_ | leafers: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 might help you to build a new one |
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| 16:35.32 | leafers | i did that |
| 16:35.34 | leafers | no x |
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| 16:36.01 | leafers | so i tried apt-get x-windows-system-core |
| 16:36.09 | leafers | says i already have on |
| 16:36.09 | leafers | one |
| 16:36.18 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
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| 16:36.42 | leafers | that is the log |
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| 16:37.12 | leafers | i tried takeing out any changes i made too xf86config-4 |
| 16:37.19 | leafers | alos |
| 16:37.36 | leafers | also tried md5sum |
| 16:37.56 | leafers | it dropped at a > |
| 16:38.09 | bluestrain | leafers, it appears you've lost your monitor configuration. Did you back up the X configuration files before you started? |
| 16:38.18 | leafers | nope |
| 16:38.27 | bluestrain | unfortunate. |
| 16:38.30 | eegore_ | abrotman: I have recovered from configuration errors |
| 16:38.30 | dimitri | this will sound dumb but can anyone give me an example using the cmd mail to send an email ?? |
| 16:38.31 | leafers | i had several backups of it |
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| 16:38.49 | leafers | i tried restoring from those |
| 16:38.54 | leafers | did not work |
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| 16:39.04 | eegore_ | I guess it was not really broken but just a little confused |
| 16:39.13 | leafers | yea no x |
| 16:39.30 | leafers | i can look at it and there is an error msg says no x file |
| 16:39.38 | dli | leafers, apt-get --reinstall install x-window-system-core |
| 16:39.44 | bluestrain | Does anyone have a pointer to a good doc on setting up vhosts on apache2? Every time I attempt to add the vhost, I break the default config. |
| 16:39.46 | leafers | ok |
| 16:40.07 | dli | leafers, and, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" |
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| 16:40.22 | leafers | ok |
| 16:40.48 | eegore_ | does etch use xfree or xorg? |
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| 16:40.55 | dli | eegore_, xorg |
| 16:40.56 | TNKS | Hi all. I've summaried a very brief question I have regarding apt pinning at http://pastebin.ca/29638. I'm trying to pin unstable low, in general, but I'd like to allow some files in unstable to update as if they were in testing. |
| 16:41.02 | eegore_ | tnx |
| 16:41.33 | TNKS | But it's not working the way I have it set up, and I thought I was interpreting the manual correctly. |
| 16:41.37 | abrotman | eegore_: you all ok ? |
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| 16:42.05 | eegore_ | I thinks so, at leasst I have a rough idea of how to proceed |
| 16:42.09 | eegore_ | thankyou |
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| 16:42.33 | p3rti | hi.. |
| 16:42.56 | p3rti | i have a little problem with my system.. before i upgrade, hotplug was removed and now my sound card cant be detected |
| 16:43.24 | p3rti | when i try to install it it say that hotplug dont belong to the dist! |
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| 16:44.16 | Porks | hi! does somebody know if debian can be installed in a "PA 827"? |
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| 16:44.29 | abrotman | p3rti: do you know which modules are needed ? |
| 16:44.43 | Eulex | p3rti, hotplug is in stable, testing and unstable. is this debian you're running? |
| 16:45.12 | dimitri | this will sound dumb but can anyone give me an example using the cmd mail to send an email ?? |
| 16:45.15 | meff | udev takes over hotplug in sid |
| 16:45.20 | abrotman | and etch |
| 16:45.25 | dli | Eulex, I think he installed udev |
| 16:45.35 | bbrazil | dimitri: echo body | mail -s 'subject' e@mail.address |
| 16:45.35 | abrotman | Eulex: udev now conflicts with hotplug |
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| 16:45.40 | Eulex | ok |
| 16:45.48 | dimitri | thanks |
| 16:45.50 | Eulex | but hotplug is still there |
| 16:45.58 | p3rti | i'm running debian, and i use hotplug to block my tv card because right now the sound only show the tv card settings.. hotplug dont block it. |
| 16:46.00 | abrotman | !conflicts udev etch |
| 16:46.06 | dpkg | udev: lvm-common (<< 1.5.13), hotplug, module-init-tools (<< 3.2-pre9-1) |
| 16:46.09 | TNKS | hmm. . . I have got go for a bit. If I'm still confused later, maybe I'll post my question about pinning again then. |
| 16:46.13 | eegore_ | I just need to set up things so they link to what they need |
| 16:46.33 | p3rti | abrotman, so, how can i fix that? |
| 16:46.39 | gothtec | I know this is off-topic, but can anyone in here tell me what this means? It's in romanian, and I can't read romanian. Din cate cuvinte este formata urmatoarea propozitie: "Neincrederea din privire era accentuata de acolada ridicata a sprancenelor si de tonul ironic." |
| 16:46.40 | Eulex | p3rti, well then, are you running unstable? |
| 16:46.46 | abrotman | p3rti: can you load the modules manually ? |
| 16:46.53 | nextime | Eulex : just for fun, my dist-upgrade is done and working good :) |
| 16:47.04 | nextime | and now oo2 work well |
| 16:47.04 | bbrazil | !ro |
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| 16:47.13 | p3rti | abrotman, yes.. but how can i block the modules manuually? |
| 16:47.23 | Eulex | nextime, never told you to dist-upgrade |
| 16:47.26 | p3rti | Eulex, i'm running testing |
| 16:47.27 | abrotman | p3rti: block ? |
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| 16:48.00 | Eulex | nextime, I believe I told you how to install things from other parts from debian than the one you're currently running. |
| 16:48.01 | p3rti | abrotman, yes, because the tvcard module load automa... |
| 16:48.08 | nextime | Eulex : no, today about 4 hours ago i say "ok, i will do a dist-upgrade on my sid", and you say me "it's dangerous"... |
| 16:48.10 | abrotman | p3rti: and you don't want it to ? |
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| 16:48.14 | p3rti | abrotman, then the sound card have problems. |
| 16:48.23 | p3rti | abrotman, no, i want to load it manually |
| 16:48.35 | eegore_ | what kernel is running in etch? |
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| 16:48.39 | Eulex | nextime, ok. my memory ain't the best :) |
| 16:48.40 | p3rti | abrotman, i try everything on /etc/modules and /etc/modules.conf |
| 16:48.40 | abrotman | eegore_: there are two |
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| 16:48.46 | abrotman | !blacklist |
| 16:48.47 | dpkg | Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present) |
| 16:48.48 | p3rti | abrotman, but it loads! |
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| 16:48.53 | Eulex | eegore_, a lot. I'm running 2.6.14. |
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| 16:49.01 | stew | p3rti: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:49.06 | nextime | Eulex : don't worry, my memory ain't the best too :) |
| 16:49.19 | p3rti | stew, testing, with all the upgrades! |
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| 16:49.21 | dimitri | what do you usually put in /var/spool ? |
| 16:49.44 | eegore_ | kool that means native support for my capture card |
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| 16:50.29 | abrotman | p3rti: i'm really confused .. do you want the modules to load or not ? |
| 16:50.30 | eegore_ | I needed at leas the 2.6.12 |
| 16:50.42 | Eulex | eegore_, however, if your question is what kernels are in testing, it is 2.6.8 and 2.6.11 |
| 16:50.55 | Eulex | eegore_, that doesn't stop anyone from running any kernel on testing, though |
| 16:51.06 | thingfish | don't you mean 2.6.12? |
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| 16:51.14 | abrotman | eegore_: etch has a 2.6.12 |
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| 16:51.33 | stew | p3rti: do you run udev? |
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| 16:51.40 | eegore_ | that is the minimum I need for that card |
| 16:51.44 | Eulex | hmm, 2.6.12 is in testing? |
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| 16:51.53 | thingfish | yes |
| 16:52.00 | abrotman | Eulex: yes .. has been .. for over a month |
| 16:52.03 | thingfish | or it was yesterday at least. |
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| 16:52.07 | eegore_ | that pretty much settles my options |
| 16:52.10 | p3rti | abrotman, yes. But Manually, because actually it loads automati.. and when i try to acces the sound card it show all settings of the tv card and nothing about the sounnd card. |
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| 16:52.18 | p3rti | stew, what u mean? |
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| 16:52.28 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:52.28 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:52.30 | stew | p3rti: do you have the udev package installed? |
| 16:52.36 | Eulex | abrotman, heh, ok |
| 16:52.38 | abrotman | speaking of .. where's jim been ? |
| 16:52.38 | p3rti | stew, yes. |
| 16:53.12 | stew | p3rti: then you no longer have a hotplug package so blacklisting stuff via hotplug isn't going to work, now you should be blacklisting via /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 16:53.36 | p3rti | stew, OH Thanks!!! |
| 16:54.02 | p3rti | stew, thanks a lot. so hotplug dont be anymore on testing? |
| 16:54.06 | abrotman | or learn how to use the options file ... |
| 16:54.06 | p3rti | stew, sorry for my english. |
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| 16:54.10 | abrotman | !info hotplug etch |
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| 16:54.13 | dpkg | hotplug: (Linux Hotplug Scripts), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.0.20040329-25 (etch), Packaged size: 65 kB, Installed size: 380 kB |
| 16:54.20 | abrotman | p3rti: udev conflicts with hotplug |
| 16:54.34 | p3rti | thanks |
| 16:54.45 | stew | p3rti: hotplug and udev conflict |
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| 16:54.51 | eegore_ | abrotman: realy, I did not know that, is there a fix? |
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| 16:54.51 | Eulex | stew, ...that explains why eth1394 has started loading again here... |
| 16:54.58 | abrotman | eegore_: fix for ? |
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| 16:55.02 | dli | abrotman, can the blacklist thing be handled in modconf? |
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| 16:55.10 | eegore_ | udev vs hotplug |
| 16:55.10 | abrotman | dli: not that i'm aware |
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| 16:55.23 | abrotman | eegore_: yep .. use one or the other :) |
| 16:55.25 | p3rti | stew, and u know why udev was installed if and hotplug removed? |
| 16:55.29 | abrotman | !u |
| 16:55.30 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 16:55.33 | p3rti | i dont make nothing. |
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| 16:55.46 | p3rti | sorry abrotman |
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| 16:56.05 | eegore_ | for usb devices which is better udev or hotplug? |
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| 16:56.12 | stew | p3rti: they didn't conflict until recently, so you had both installed, but now udev replaces hotplug so udev got upgraded and hotplug removed |
| 16:56.14 | leafers | hi |
| 16:56.18 | leafers | did not work |
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| 16:56.29 | p3rti | stew, thanks a lot!!! |
| 16:56.36 | leafers | reinstall is not a recognized command |
| 16:56.39 | p3rti | stew, i love the comunity. |
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| 16:56.41 | abrotman | eegore_: they should both work fine |
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| 16:56.58 | leafers | apt-get reinstall install x-window-system-core |
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| 16:57.34 | abrotman | !tell Pyrotas about root |
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| 16:57.53 | leafers | lost xserver |
| 16:58.22 | leafers | ran dpkg-reconfig xserver-xfree86 |
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| 16:58.26 | leafers | no x |
| 16:58.28 | leafers | del x |
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| 16:59.21 | leafers | ran apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 16:59.25 | leafers | did not work |
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| 16:59.41 | abrotman | how about an error ? |
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| 17:00.29 | leafers | same one |
| 17:00.29 | mike36 | hi a quick question how can i list all the user accounts on my system |
| 17:00.36 | leafers | cannot start x |
| 17:00.38 | tarzeau | mike36: getnet passwd |
| 17:00.41 | abrotman | mike: cat /etc/passwd ? |
| 17:00.41 | tarzeau | getent even |
| 17:00.52 | mike36 | thangs guys |
| 17:00.59 | mike36 | thanks* |
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| 17:01.15 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29497 |
| 17:01.29 | RoundQube | I cannot boot windows of my slave drive and my grub config looks like the following for it: rootnoverify (hd1,0) makeactive chainloader +1 is there anyhing else im missing? the drive is hdb1 and im not sure why it will not boot with (hd1,0) |
| 17:01.37 | abrotman | leafers: something is wron gwith your X config file |
| 17:01.41 | abrotman | !tell leafers about drxx |
| 17:01.45 | cast | RoundQube: i don't understand the problem ;) |
| 17:01.55 | leafers | yea i hand edited it |
| 17:01.57 | RoundQube | cast: it wont boot |
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| 17:02.23 | abrotman | leafers: yes ... |
| 17:02.25 | takatumi | RoundQube: info grub, you may need 'map' |
| 17:02.25 | dli | abrotman, he manually editted XF86Config-4 |
| 17:02.27 | abrotman | !tell leafers about xmd5 |
| 17:02.27 | RoundQube | cast; it wont boot, it just sits there when i try to select it |
| 17:02.34 | abrotman | dli: poorly apparently |
| 17:02.41 | dimitri | anyone using the vacation addition of postfix admin, does it deal with mailing lists ? |
| 17:02.54 | leafers | i did both |
| 17:03.02 | RoundQube | takatumi: i'll look into it |
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| 17:03.09 | leafers | why did the second one drop me at > |
| 17:03.14 | dli | abrotman, I think dozens people have told him to dpkg-reconfigure, but he just couldn't get it |
| 17:03.19 | leafers | what was i suppose to do there |
| 17:03.24 | RoundQube | takatumi: but (hd1,0) is correct for hdb1? |
| 17:03.29 | leafers | i ran that |
| 17:03.32 | daemonic | I want to monitor what's coming in and out on eth0 from a /var/log file. how might I do that? |
| 17:03.33 | wang | is it normal for samba to just randomly stop allowing logins from a windows box? |
| 17:03.34 | leafers | bunches of times |
| 17:03.35 | takatumi | RoundQube: yes. |
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| 17:03.58 | Nara | hi all, |
| 17:04.00 | leafers | i can try the second one again |
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| 17:04.09 | RoundQube | daemonic: tcpdump |
| 17:04.11 | leafers | if i can know what to do at > |
| 17:04.15 | leafers | ctrl-c |
| 17:04.35 | leafers | the md5sum thing |
| 17:04.46 | leafers | it drops me at > |
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| 17:04.50 | daemonic | RoundQube: tcpdump will allow me to tail -f a /var/log/(file) for what's coming in/out? |
| 17:04.51 | Nara | some clients needs asp support on linux! any idea how, I am not an asp guy? |
| 17:05.30 | cat | hey i have a question how come my applications are so damn big, windows for example xchat looks pretty damn big i already did apt-get remove xfonts-100dpi i wonder why |
| 17:05.31 | leafers | i ran dpkg-reconfig |
| 17:05.31 | smoo2 | hello! I am an fc4 user at the mo, but find it hard to find some packages....are povray and truevision avaiblable easily for debian? |
| 17:05.41 | leafers | all my choices are still in there |
| 17:05.46 | leafers | but i remade em |
| 17:06.00 | leafers | still no x |
| 17:06.29 | abrotman | !find povray |
| 17:06.33 | leafers | i looked at it from puppy-linux (a handy item) |
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| 17:06.36 | dli | leafers, your pasted error doesn't say "no X", are you hiding something? |
| 17:06.41 | bbrazil | cat: as a guess did you restart xfs(font server) ? |
| 17:06.44 | leafers | error msg |
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| 17:06.45 | thingfish | povray is; truevision isn't |
| 17:06.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'povray' (6 of 14): (/usr/share/mc/syntax/povray.syntax) in utils/mc ;; (/usr/lib/wims/public_html/bin/povray) in web/wims ;; (/usr/share/kaptain/povray.kaptn) in utils/kaptain ;; (/usr/share/doc/bash/completion-contrib/povray) in shells/bash ;; (/usr/share/doc/terraform/html/C/povray.png) in gnome/terraform ;; (/usr/lib/cthugha-L/map/povray.map) in non-free/graphics/cthugha. |
| 17:06.51 | leafers | no x |
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| 17:07.10 | leafers | i can reget that log |
| 17:07.14 | smoo2 | ok |
| 17:07.15 | Karat3 | why does it mention invalid_dists_sarge_Release when i do a debootstrap to install debian? |
| 17:07.16 | smoo2 | thanks |
| 17:07.27 | leafers | but basically no x is the problem |
| 17:07.37 | cat | hey i have a question how come my applications are so damn big, windows for example xchat looks pretty damn big i already did apt-get remove xfonts-100dpi i wonder why |
| 17:07.40 | leafers | when i apt-get x it says i already have it |
| 17:08.08 | leafers | i can apt-get |
| 17:08.12 | dli | leafers, paste the error message, otherwise, how knows? |
| 17:08.16 | abrotman | cat: define "big" |
| 17:08.24 | leafers | how do i capture it |
| 17:08.29 | cat | abrotman yeah like all my stuff are huge, |
| 17:08.42 | abrotman | what stuff? |
| 17:08.43 | cat | xchat, gaim, mozilla, i'm wondering what's going on |
| 17:08.45 | abrotman | !vagueness |
| 17:08.45 | dpkg | VAGUENESS KILLS! |
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| 17:08.58 | abrotman | cat: your gtk1 fonts are big ? |
| 17:09.06 | cat | yeah |
| 17:09.11 | dli | cat: maybe, you got 640x480 screen |
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| 17:09.20 | cat | dli how do i check, |
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| 17:09.31 | cat | they give me this monitor so i'm Lost |
| 17:09.38 | stew | cat: run xrandr, what mode has the * next to it |
| 17:09.45 | g0dspeed | anyone familiar with this error msg when using e2undel "find_del(): Ext2 file too big in ext2_block_iterate() |
| 17:09.47 | dli | cat: in your X log, /var/log/Xorg.0.log or XFree86.0.log |
| 17:09.56 | cat | *0 800 x 600 ( 203mm x 152mm ) *75 72 60 56 |
| 17:09.57 | leafers | ok |
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| 17:10.32 | cat | any ideas steW? |
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| 17:10.36 | leafers | ok |
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| 17:11.13 | dli | cat: 800x600 :( |
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| 17:11.27 | cat | Yeah |
| 17:11.29 | cat | is it bad? |
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| 17:11.38 | drasko | hi all. How to stop hangin on MTA on boot? |
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| 17:11.42 | eka | hi all |
| 17:11.50 | dli | cat: is it an old box? |
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| 17:12.00 | stew | drasko: make sure your networking is working at boot |
| 17:12.01 | cat | Nope |
| 17:12.03 | eka | how to see quicktime movies with firefox? |
| 17:12.07 | Urthmover2 | I'm having trouble getting X11 to forward....would someone take a moment to help me troubleshoot it? |
| 17:12.16 | stew | Urthmover2: /msg dpkg sshx |
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| 17:12.18 | dli | drasko, no idea, I usually remove it, sendmail or exim |
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| 17:12.40 | stew | cat: you should figure out what the maximum resolution of your monitor is |
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| 17:12.57 | cat | stew how can i look for that? |
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| 17:13.07 | Raimi | my 'locales' package did not install /etc/locales/alias and i think some programs are missing that ... |
| 17:13.08 | stew | cat: google |
| 17:13.13 | cat | aha |
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| 17:13.16 | cat | and what do i google? |
| 17:13.21 | drasko | One more queston: how to set up dhclient work automatically from boot. And also to work on boot - so MTA won't hang! |
| 17:13.30 | stew | cat: the model name/number of your monitor |
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| 17:13.44 | dli | cat: what's your video card? how much video ram it has? |
| 17:13.47 | dusk | how do I config alsa through cmdline? |
| 17:13.49 | stew | drasko: man interfaces /msg dpkg man interfaces |
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| 17:14.06 | dli | dusk, alsaconf |
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| 17:14.09 | cat | resolution is 800X600 75hz Optimum 1280X1024 60Hz |
| 17:14.13 | stew | dli: is there any chance that the limiting factor here is how much ram is on his card? |
| 17:14.27 | Raimi | drasko: /etc/network/interfaces : iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 17:14.48 | dli | stew: possible, with an old box :( or incorrect bios settings |
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| 17:15.43 | stew | dli: to run his moonitor are the optimal res he needs 4mb of video ram |
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| 17:15.53 | stew | cat: what graphics card chipset? |
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| 17:16.16 | leafers | ok i posted that log file too |
| 17:16.18 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29651 |
| 17:16.25 | cat | stew is a Nv |
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| 17:16.34 | dli | stew: I remember an intel 855 bug makes the videoRAM 1MB |
| 17:16.38 | cat | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) |
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| 17:16.58 | stew | cat: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ; and choose nv as the driver and 1280x1024, then restart x |
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| 17:17.07 | drasko | stew, Raimi, I want to set dhcp for eth1 which is my USB cable modem, and not for eth0, which is my local LAN (ethernet card). But when i write ifconfig I just see eth0. Also, in /etc/network/interfaces. So I boot and then write dhclient, an everything works... How to do this automatically and don't have to write evrytime I boot? |
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| 17:17.11 | leafers | i am having the same problem with nvidia |
| 17:17.13 | ttcsvin | hello , how can i change my ip? |
| 17:17.36 | Raimi | drasko: auto eth1 and the line above with eth1 ? |
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| 17:17.49 | leafers | cannot go above 800x600 |
| 17:17.54 | callsign | anyone need any ram or other hardware? |
| 17:18.01 | stew | drasko: take out auto eth0 from interfaces if its there, put in auto eth1 |
| 17:18.09 | zinx | ttcsvin: with ifconfig, but whether it gets routed or not is a different matter |
| 17:18.30 | leafers | that is why i was editing xf86config-4 |
| 17:18.43 | Rawplayer | anyone in here using bsd secure levels? on linux |
| 17:18.45 | stew | drasko: and make sure the driver for that card is in /etc/modules |
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| 17:19.10 | stew | leafers: /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx |
| 17:19.10 | drasko | stew, and eth0. To take it out from etc/network/iterfaces? But will the LAN work after that? |
| 17:19.10 | leafers | http://pastebin.ca/29651 |
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| 17:19.16 | cat | still the same =( |
| 17:19.22 | dimm0k | anyone on a wpa wireless network with the ipw2200 drivers? compiled 2.6.15-rc1 for ipw2200 and wpasupplicant 0.4.6, but it doesn't seem to be able to connect at all |
| 17:19.23 | leafers | basiclly the same msg |
| 17:19.29 | dli | leafers, can you go to /etc/X11, remove all XF86Config* , and try again |
| 17:19.33 | cat | that sucks |
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| 17:19.43 | stew | drasko: leave it in, but take out the "auto eth0" line |
| 17:19.50 | leafers | (EE) Problem parsing the config file |
| 17:19.51 | leafers | (EE) Error from xf86HandleConfigFile() |
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| 17:20.09 | dli | leafers, I checked, it's not about missing x, please stop misleading |
| 17:20.17 | leafers | reboot |
| 17:20.19 | stew | dli: if he removes it, he'd have to reinstall with confmiss |
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| 17:20.28 | leafers | or rerun dpkg |
| 17:21.00 | leafers | del xf86config-4 then |
| 17:21.05 | stew | leafers: no |
| 17:21.07 | stew | leafers: don't |
| 17:21.08 | leafers | and then what |
| 17:21.19 | dli | stew: yes, he made a broken XF86Config-4, and just keeps using it, and say, "x not found" |
| 17:21.20 | stew | leafers: don't delete it, /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx |
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| 17:21.35 | leafers | that is the error msg in /x11 |
| 17:21.40 | leafers | it says no x file |
| 17:21.40 | stew | dli: yeah but if he deletes it, he won't be albe to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 17:21.42 | vains | i'm new to linux, and would like to know why I get this warning on gnome startup: "could not lookup IP address for [name_of_computer]" |
| 17:21.50 | stew | dli: he'd have to reinstall with confmiss |
| 17:21.59 | bbrazil | vains: you on a network? |
| 17:22.06 | stew | dli: if he just fixes the md5, he can reconfigure the package and get a wokring config |
| 17:22.10 | leafers | i am thinking about reinstall the whole thing anyway |
| 17:22.17 | dli | stew: yes, much easier to "apt-get --purge remove;apt-get install" |
| 17:22.28 | vains | yes, but my computer is connected directly to the internet |
| 17:22.33 | leafers | what is that md5 thing suppose to do |
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| 17:22.41 | stew | dli: if you say so. btw when were you going to tell him that he needed to purge and reinstall? |
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| 17:22.59 | zinx | vains: do you have an entry in /etc/hosts for your [name_of_computer]? |
| 17:23.00 | abrotman | stew: if he touch /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 .. then does the xmd5 thing .. should all be goo |
| 17:23.01 | abrotman | good |
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| 17:23.06 | dli | stew: he couldn't :( he has been told hours about the md5 thing |
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| 17:23.07 | stew | true |
| 17:23.10 | leafers | i get > |
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| 17:23.20 | leafers | then it justs sits there |
| 17:23.25 | stew | leafers: if you don't do the md5 thing, reconfiguring the package won't create new config files becuase it wouldn't want to overwrite your custom changes |
| 17:23.26 | leafers | so i ctl c |
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| 17:23.45 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 17:23.45 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 17:23.50 | stew | leafers: what did you type before you got the >? you probably had an unmatched ' or " |
| 17:23.51 | leafers | yea but what is > |
| 17:23.51 | vains | zinx: i don't! there's only a definition for "localhost" |
| 17:23.52 | dli | stew: it makes me rather stupid here, it's two minute job, dpkg --purge ;apt-get install, that's it |
| 17:23.54 | abrotman | how can you screw that up ? :) |
| 17:24.09 | zinx | vains: there you go |
| 17:24.12 | leafers | that is what shows up after is run md5sum |
| 17:24.18 | zinx | vains: it's odd that you're having this problem in debian, though |
| 17:24.22 | stew | dli: if you were going to have him purge the package why bother telling hime to remove the config first? |
| 17:24.23 | zinx | vains: debian adds the entries automatically |
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| 17:24.26 | dli | stew: also, instead of reporting a broken XF86Config-4, he reported, "x not found" |
| 17:24.30 | abrotman | leafers: md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
| 17:24.31 | blondie | leafers: md5sum can take a while |
| 17:24.39 | leafers | dpkg purge what? |
| 17:24.41 | abrotman | blondie: on a 200KB text file ? |
| 17:24.50 | blondie | erm ok |
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| 17:24.53 | dli | stew: I didn't trust him much with the "purge" part |
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| 17:24.59 | leafers | dpkg --purge / |
| 17:24.59 | stew | leafers: don't purge anything, do what abrotman said, then dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 17:25.00 | abrotman | err .. sorry .. 2K |
| 17:25.13 | leafers | > |
| 17:25.20 | stew | dli: so what? you were just going to tell him to delete his config, then what? |
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| 17:25.23 | vains | zinx: then it's very likely that I gave false information to the installation program... |
| 17:25.24 | abrotman | leafers: md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
| 17:25.27 | leafers | > |
| 17:25.30 | abrotman | no |
| 17:25.31 | zinx | vains: :/ |
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| 17:25.32 | leafers | i see > |
| 17:25.35 | leafers | that > |
| 17:25.37 | abrotman | leafers: hit ctrl-c |
| 17:25.38 | vains | didn't know exactly what I was doing so |
| 17:25.39 | abrotman | leafers: md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum |
| 17:25.42 | leafers | it just sits |
| 17:25.43 | dli | stew: so, we won't see that broken file in any way |
| 17:25.44 | leafers | ya |
| 17:25.47 | zinx | vains: make the localhost line look like: 127.0.0.1 [name_of_computer] localhost |
| 17:25.56 | leafers | but it is imediate like it is not doing anything |
| 17:25.56 | stew | dli: and then? |
| 17:26.04 | abrotman | leafers: how slow is this computer ? |
| 17:26.09 | dli | stew: then, reinstall |
| 17:26.09 | stew | dli: or were you just trying to make it so he couldn't run x at all |
| 17:26.09 | robin | anyone specialized in ipac-ng for measure traffic per port? |
| 17:26.11 | vains | zinx: thank you so much ! |
| 17:26.12 | leafers | 1300 |
| 17:26.19 | leafers | 512mb |
| 17:26.27 | dli | stew: whatever, reinstall solve the problem |
| 17:26.27 | leafers | 1300mhz |
| 17:26.33 | abrotman | leafers: what happens if you just do `md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4` ? |
| 17:26.35 | stew | dli: no it wouldn't, /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 17:26.40 | leafers | > |
| 17:26.42 | leafers | that |
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| 17:26.58 | leafers | a cursor |
| 17:27.02 | stew | dli: if there is no XFree86Config-4 file, a new one wouldn't be recreated without confmiss or purging the package |
| 17:27.09 | abrotman | leafers: i don't know what YOU did .. but you fucked your system if md5sum doesn't even work |
| 17:27.21 | abrotman | leafers: either that .. or you can't type commands |
| 17:27.30 | leafers | well i am headed for reinstall |
| 17:27.33 | dli | stew: whatever, you can force dpkg |
| 17:27.36 | zinx | the ">" makes me think he's putting in a stray ", ', or ` |
| 17:27.37 | leafers | anyway so trying anything |
| 17:27.43 | stew | dli: right, with confmiss are you not reading? |
| 17:27.43 | abrotman | leafers: AND DO NOT edit that file by hand |
| 17:27.44 | gigabytes | excuse me |
| 17:27.53 | abrotman | did you fart ? |
| 17:27.56 | Hawkwind | If I did apt-get install enlightenment and which enlightenment shows it to be in /usr/bin why does it not show in my login screen when I boot to the graphical login on Sarge ? |
| 17:27.57 | leafers | i put -" - |
| 17:28.01 | leafers | on the end |
| 17:28.08 | gigabytes | I'm trying to build an udeb for a custom kernel for buil a custom d-i image |
| 17:28.10 | abrotman | leafers: so you're not even typing what i tell you to type ? |
| 17:28.11 | leafers | ok |
| 17:28.17 | abrotman | gigabytes: #debian-boot |
| 17:28.23 | leafers | send it again |
| 17:28.25 | gigabytes | ok |
| 17:28.26 | stew | gigabytes: why are you trying to build a udeb instead of just downloading one? |
| 17:28.30 | gigabytes | thanks |
| 17:28.31 | abrotman | leafers: use your backscroll |
| 17:28.33 | dli | stew: I think you know see the trouble, which I tried to avoid :) |
| 17:28.39 | leafers | -" - thatis on the end |
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| 17:28.47 | gigabytes | stew, there isn't an udeb for the kernel 2.6.14 for powerpc |
| 17:28.47 | sciboy | Hi guys, this is probably the last place i should ask this question, but i have been given access to a websites windows based server inorder to help the transfer to their new linux server, however to really get anywhere i'll need VNC access, now i only have telnet to work with so how am i suppose to do this? First things first, how do i download the VNC setup file onto the computer, and does RealVNC support installation via. command-line? |
| 17:29.08 | gigabytes | stew on packages.debian.org I couldn't find one |
| 17:29.16 | abrotman | sciboy: you can't |
| 17:29.33 | sciboy | abrotman: Be more specific, can't what? |
| 17:29.49 | abrotman | sciboy: how do you expect to use a GUI installer via telnet ? |
| 17:29.59 | slibs | sciboy: you can get executable viewer from www.realvnc.com |
| 17:30.04 | blondie | well |
| 17:30.06 | stew | dli: i don't at all, i just see you giving him unsound advice |
| 17:30.08 | sciboy | abrotman: I asked if it supported command-line installation. |
| 17:30.17 | blondie | sciboy: why don't you enable remote desktop? |
| 17:30.17 | gigabytes | stew, where can I find it? |
| 17:30.17 | sciboy | slibs: I'm concerned with setting the server up, not the client. =P |
| 17:30.17 | abrotman | sciboy: not that i'm aware |
| 17:30.34 | blondie | net start terminal services |
| 17:30.36 | blondie | might work |
| 17:30.38 | sciboy | blondie: It has remote desktop enabled, but i only have access to linux computers here. |
| 17:30.40 | dli | stew: but, why dpkg with forcing is a problem? |
| 17:30.47 | blondie | sciboy: apt-get install rdesktop |
| 17:30.56 | sciboy | blondie: Are you serious? |
| 17:30.59 | blondie | rdesktop = remote desktop client for unix |
| 17:31.00 | blondie | yes |
| 17:31.07 | sciboy | Woah, thanks. =D |
| 17:31.20 | blondie | much better performance than vnc |
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| 17:31.35 | sciboy | blondie: I didn't realise there was a client for linux... |
| 17:31.35 | abrotman | blondie: if it's installed .. and there's a hole in the firewall |
| 17:31.42 | zinx | vnc on windows sucks, 'cause it can't do the insane crap rdp does, due to interfaces not being public :) |
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| 17:31.55 | slibs | blondie: is it based on original vnc, like tightvnc etc? |
| 17:31.57 | abrotman | zinx: what does remote desktop do that nvc can't ? |
| 17:31.59 | sciboy | blondie: Thanks again. =D |
| 17:32.01 | blondie | abrotman: it's installed by default |
| 17:32.05 | stew | gigabytes: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/source/linux-kernel-di-powerpc-2.6 |
| 17:32.06 | blondie | slibs: rdesktop? no |
| 17:32.09 | abrotman | blondie: depends which version of windows |
| 17:32.13 | zinx | abrotman: it can tightly integrate itself with all the kernel crap for GUI drawing |
| 17:32.20 | blondie | abrotman: it is on server 2000 and above |
| 17:32.21 | abrotman | zinx: this is good ? |
| 17:32.27 | abrotman | blondie: erm .. no |
| 17:32.32 | blondie | yes |
| 17:32.32 | zinx | abrotman: it is if you want something somewhat efficient network-wise |
| 17:32.38 | abrotman | blondie: no .. |
| 17:32.48 | blondie | anyway, he said it is installed |
| 17:32.55 | Aerk | I enabled APM support in kernel 2.6.14 and compiled, but when I type apm under that kernel it says "No apm support in kernel." |
| 17:32.58 | zinx | abrotman: vnc for X is much better :/ |
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| 17:33.09 | Aerk | It works fine under the stock 2.4.27. |
| 17:33.10 | abrotman | zinx: i htink vnc is fine .. rdesktop has some issues |
| 17:33.13 | zinx | abrotman: due to the interfaces being public |
| 17:33.22 | stew | Aerk: have you tried "modprobe apm" ? |
| 17:33.23 | gigabytes | stew, yes!!! but there is'nt the 2.6.14!!!! |
| 17:33.25 | zinx | abrotman: windows vnc server? |
| 17:33.33 | gigabytes | stew, so I must build it! |
| 17:33.37 | blondie | abrotman: rdp is MUCH nicer than VNC |
| 17:33.39 | zinx | abrotman: (note, not client) |
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| 17:33.42 | abrotman | i disagree |
| 17:33.49 | stew | gigabytes: and you are going to build it on x86? |
| 17:33.51 | abrotman | rdp has retardedness built in :) |
| 17:33.58 | blondie | meaning? |
| 17:33.59 | gigabytes | stew, yes |
| 17:34.01 | abrotman | i do like that linux has a client .. but that's about it |
| 17:34.07 | stew | gigabytes: you need to create a cross-compiling gcc then, good luck you will need tons of it |
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| 17:34.21 | blondie | the performance is much better, it uses encryption, it supports features that VNC does not |
| 17:34.31 | abrotman | blondie: that's barely encryption |
| 17:34.41 | stew | gigabytes: do you reall need 2.6.14 and not 2.6.12? |
| 17:34.42 | abrotman | and vnc has features that RDP doesn't |
| 17:34.42 | gigabytes | stew, but I already have the prebuilt kernel |
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| 17:34.58 | blondie | abrotman: performance is sooooo much better than VNC |
| 17:35.01 | abrotman | blondie: iirc .. the encryption on RDP is roughly 'salt'ing |
| 17:35.18 | gigabytes | stew, yes because on 2.6.14 there is a new driver for the IDE controller of new powerbooks 5,8 |
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| 17:35.45 | Aerk | stew: APM is compiled in. |
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| 17:36.03 | blondie | abrotman: the performance enough is alone to make it win :P |
| 17:36.19 | abrotman | blondie: i disagree |
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| 17:36.31 | blondie | have you used it extensively? |
| 17:36.31 | stew | gigabytes: you have kernel-wedge installed? have you tried kernel-wedge yet? |
| 17:36.45 | stew | Aerk: does it work with a debian compiled 2.6? |
| 17:36.49 | blondie | you can barely tell the difference between using RDP on a remote PC and using the local console |
| 17:37.02 | abrotman | blondie: both yes |
| 17:37.02 | Aerk | stew: The Debian 2.6 kernel doesn't have APM. |
| 17:37.03 | gigabytes | stew, I'm following the instructions on http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt |
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| 17:37.09 | abrotman | blondie: and i still disagree |
| 17:37.11 | stew | Aerk: yes it does |
| 17:37.26 | blondie | abrotman: that the performance is good? |
| 17:37.41 | Aerk | stew: Not with CONFIG_APM_ALLOW_INTS. |
| 17:37.44 | stew | Aerk: http://vireo.org/~stew/config-2.6.8-2-386 -> CONFIG_APM=m |
| 17:37.49 | zinx | abrotman: about the performance issues, or about the performance issues outweighing the other issues? |
| 17:38.05 | abrotman | blondie: rdp over vpn blows |
| 17:38.07 | stew | Aerk: no it doens't have ALLOW_INTS |
| 17:38.14 | abrotman | zinx: huh ? |
| 17:38.26 | zinx | abrotman: what is it, exactly, that you disagree with? |
| 17:38.29 | blondie | I don't see why that should be the case... me tests |
| 17:38.40 | abrotman | blondie: RDP is fine if the system is local .. but over the internet .. it's just as good/bad as vpn |
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| 17:38.48 | gigabytes | stew, it says to build the linux-kernel-di package after have modified the kernel-versions file |
| 17:38.50 | blondie | abrotman: VPN? |
| 17:38.57 | gigabytes | stew, I do it with dpkg-buildpackage |
| 17:38.59 | gigabytes | is it right? |
| 17:39.03 | abrotman | blondie: it's three letters |
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| 17:39.38 | blondie | what do you mean by "good/bad as VPN"... obviously if you have a poor VPN connection that will affect traffic going over it |
| 17:39.57 | stew | gigabytes: those instructions are telling you to compile the kerenel from source which you cannot do |
| 17:39.58 | Aerk | stew: Thinkpads need ALLOW_INTS from what I have read. |
| 17:40.07 | abrotman | blondie: erm .. sorry .. good/bad as vnc :) |
| 17:40.10 | gigabytes | stew, ok |
| 17:40.12 | gigabytes | so what can I do? |
| 17:40.22 | blondie | abrotman: I really don't see that :| |
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| 17:40.34 | abrotman | blondie: seems the case to me .. |
| 17:40.57 | blondie | RDP over 256k internet was great; VNC isn't as good over 100Mbps LAN |
| 17:40.58 | abrotman | blondie: though .. neither are as bad as PCA using PCA encryption .. that's damn slow :) |
| 17:40.59 | stew | gigabytes: man kernel-wedge and read /usr/share/doc/kernel-wedge/* |
| 17:41.28 | blondie | VNC sends a bitmap of the screen... RDP is object based |
| 17:41.35 | gigabytes | stew, but have I to cross-build the kernel using kernel-wedge? |
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| 17:41.50 | ke6isf | blondie: Sounds horribly inefficient. |
| 17:42.01 | blondie | nah |
| 17:42.04 | blondie | it's great |
| 17:42.05 | stew | gigabytes: i don't know |
| 17:42.15 | stew | gigabytes: you should also maybe try asking #debianppc if there is an easier solution, or if you could get a livecd that boots, you could do a debootstrap |
| 17:42.17 | abrotman | it's really not .. but everyone has an opinion |
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| 17:42.22 | abrotman | though .. we've not heard stew's! |
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| 17:42.24 | eegore | that was fun |
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| 17:42.30 | eegore | netsplit |
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| 17:42.39 | blondie | RDP is MUCH nicer than VNC, and that's more a fact than opinion :P |
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| 17:42.52 | abrotman | blondie: says you .. |
| 17:42.53 | blondie | hmm, why isn't my ignore working |
| 17:42.55 | ke6isf | Was referring to vnc, actually. |
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| 17:43.06 | blondie | abrotman: sorry but I really don't see how you can think that. |
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| 17:43.19 | gigabytes | stew ok thank you for your help |
| 17:43.23 | abrotman | blondie: you're right .. we should all switch to RDP .. |
| 17:43.30 | stew | gigabytes: it looks like you do need to compile |
| 17:43.36 | eegore | RDP? |
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| 17:43.41 | blondie | abrotman: if there were servers for *nix then yes :P |
| 17:43.44 | abrotman | !rdp |
| 17:43.44 | dpkg | it has been said that rdp is an acronym. ask me about remote desktop protocol or reliable datagram protocol |
| 17:43.51 | abrotman | blondie: there's one good reason it sucks :) |
| 17:44.11 | dtech | installing sarge from scracth and I'm not finding the flash player.. i thought it was in stable? |
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| 17:44.18 | dusk | got a newb question: i want to dl xmule from the unstable branch, but I found a .deb on packages.debian, how can I install it command line? dpkg? |
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| 17:44.39 | abrotman | dtech: it's on contrib or nonfree .. do you have those sources ? |
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| 17:45.02 | Daedalus_ | dusk: uh, apt-get install xmule ? |
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| 17:45.35 | Daedalus_ | dusk: it is extremely rare that you would have to download a .deb to install something |
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| 17:45.54 | dusk | daedalus: im using etch |
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| 17:45.58 | dtech | just checked and no i didn't.. I thouhgt i was asked if i wanted to add them to the sources on install.. maybe a bug? |
| 17:46.03 | Daedalus_ | dusk: Though if you really need to do that, dpkg -i <filename> will take care of you |
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| 17:46.12 | ke6isf | !info xmule etch |
| 17:46.12 | dusk | daedalus: and xmule is only in unstable branch |
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| 17:46.27 | cqst | got a problem with mplayerplug-in and opera : plugin is deteced but doesnt work, when I launch "opera -debugplugin" it says "Warning: XtRemoveGrab asked to remove a widget not on the list" any idea ? |
| 17:46.27 | ke6isf | Daedalus_: Doesn't look like xmule is in etch. |
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| 17:46.36 | Daedalus_ | ke6isf: THanks |
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| 17:46.49 | ke6isf | !doesn't work |
| 17:46.50 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 17:47.17 | eegore | I think that is what I am going to look into making, a usb driven prot-it printer |
| 17:47.18 | thingfish | "Does it waste its time on IRC all day long?" = me. :( |
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| 17:47.24 | eegore | post-it |
| 17:47.28 | abrotman | thingfish: you ? |
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| 17:47.42 | cat | ok i'm back |
| 17:47.46 | thingfish | yes, abrotman, I waste my day here. |
| 17:47.51 | cat | still the same stuff, all my crap are big |
| 17:47.51 | thingfish | waste, waste, waste. |
| 17:48.12 | abrotman | thingfish: at least you're not selling crack to the newbies |
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| 17:48.23 | blondie | thingfish: that's very naughty |
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| 17:48.36 | thingfish | abrotman: well, let's not discount that offhand...what's the profit margin like? |
| 17:48.40 | Daedalus_ | thingfish: Where's my crack, B**tch! |
| 17:48.49 | thingfish | blondie: yes, I'm a naughty, naughty boy. |
| 17:48.52 | blondie | :| |
| 17:48.55 | thingfish | hehe |
| 17:49.03 | abrotman | thingfish: they suck up more of your time with questions :) |
| 17:49.10 | thingfish | hehe true |
| 17:49.17 | iUninstall | I have Debian Testing PPC and I can't find k3b |
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| 17:49.30 | abrotman | iUninstall: not in testing right now |
| 17:49.31 | stew | time to upgrade the firmware on this raid, hopefully i'll be back soon, someone cross fingers for me |
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| 17:49.45 | thingfish | ok, stew. |
| 17:49.54 | iUninstall | abrotman, Why? |
| 17:49.56 | shad0w1e | question: is there any way for me to boot to a software-raid0 ?? |
| 17:50.06 | robin | is there anyone here using ipac-ng becaus my rules.conf driving me crazy with measure traffic per port .... |
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| 17:50.37 | thingfish | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 17:50.37 | abrotman | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 17:50.38 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 17:50.46 | thingfish | :) |
| 17:51.02 | shad0w1e | /usr/bin/cdrecord |
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| 17:51.23 | amputierer | what is debian? |
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| 17:51.27 | abrotman | !debian |
| 17:51.27 | dpkg | somebody said debian was http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
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| 17:51.44 | shad0w1e | anyone know if I can set my computer to boot to a raid0 ?? |
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| 17:52.01 | thingfish | oh, that one's going to get a plonkin'...I can see it coming. |
| 17:52.04 | iUninstall | There are some problems with kde metapackage: |
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| 17:52.17 | abrotman | iUninstall: yes .. kde is broken in testing .. ask #debian-kde |
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| 17:52.43 | iUninstall | abrotman, ok. Thanks |
| 17:52.58 | Hawkwind | If I did apt-get install enlightenment and which enlightenment shows it to be in /usr/bin why does it not show in my login screen when I boot to the graphical login on Sarge ? |
| 17:53.15 | blondie | hmm, how do you purge the config files for a package that has been uninstalled? |
| 17:53.22 | abrotman | dpkg -P |
| 17:53.26 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 17:53.26 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
| 17:53.37 | bizkit | is there a way to calculate the time, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda3 bs=4k conv=notrunc 2>/dev/null, will take? you need to know hda3 is 100G of size, hda is in udma133 mode |
| 17:53.40 | thc | !kingleysmite abrotman |
| 17:53.42 | thc | doh |
| 17:53.46 | thc | !kingsleysmite abrotman |
| 17:53.47 | dpkg | abrotman: You're nothing but an a*s w*nking h*mo! |
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| 17:53.50 | abrotman | heh |
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| 17:54.07 | blondie | dpkg -P doesn't work because the package is already uninstalled |
| 17:54.07 | dpkg | blondie: what are you talking about? |
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| 17:54.34 | abrotman | blondie: yes it does |
| 17:54.34 | smard | has anyone here compiled their own kernel (2.4 or 2.6) and NOT had problems with mounting afterwards, not using initrd? |
| 17:54.44 | blondie | abrotman: nah doesn't |
| 17:54.48 | Aerk | dpkg: don't shuddup |
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| 17:54.48 | abrotman | blondie: dpkg -l <pkg> .. what is the state ? |
| 17:54.51 | cast | smard: uh, yeah, id say alot of people |
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| 17:54.54 | takatumi | smard: /msg dpkg norootfs |
| 17:54.54 | Daedalus_ | smard: uh, sure |
| 17:54.58 | Hawkwind | Anyone know what I can do to get enlightenment to show up in the GUI login screen ? |
| 17:55.00 | abrotman | blondie: it works for me every time i do it |
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| 17:55.22 | Aerk | smard: Did you configure support for file systems? |
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| 17:55.28 | blondie | root@zero:/etc# dpkg -P apache2 |
| 17:55.28 | blondie | dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove apache2 which isn't installed. |
| 17:55.28 | iUninstall | There are another problem: Debian don't support my iBook's QWERTY italian keyboard and my touchpad (apple touch) |
| 17:55.39 | abrotman | blondie: what is the state .. dpkg -l apache2 |
| 17:55.41 | Daedalus_ | smard: are you using SATA or some other interface? |
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| 17:55.44 | doleyb | smard: yes, i compiled my own kernel, because standard debian can't mount all my drives. |
| 17:55.51 | blondie | apache2 <none> (no description available) |
| 17:55.57 | abrotman | blondie: first two letters |
| 17:56.02 | blondie | pn |
| 17:56.14 | abrotman | it's already been purged |
| 17:56.19 | blondie | no it hasn't |
| 17:56.28 | bbrazil | it looks like the wrong package name |
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| 17:56.40 | smard | t /msg dpkg norootfs |
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| 17:56.51 | Aerk | modprobe apm won't work because the device doesn't exist. WTF? |
| 17:56.53 | blondie | well what package creates /etc/apache2 then? |
| 17:57.02 | bbrazil | dpkg -S |
| 17:57.10 | abrotman | blondie: man dpkg .. read about the states |
| 17:57.21 | Aerk | Error inserting apm (path to module here): No such device |
| 17:57.43 | abrotman | blondie: it's selected to be purged ... but not installed :) |
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| 17:58.07 | Aerk | Why no APM? |
| 17:58.08 | blondie | so how do I purge it? |
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| 17:58.18 | Aerk | Thinkpad R30's support APM. |
| 17:58.25 | nvz | Hawkwind: istall it |
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| 17:58.32 | abrotman | blondie: do any files belong to it ? |
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| 17:58.35 | Hawkwind | nvz: Scroll up. I did install it |
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| 17:58.47 | smard | well I've done it a few times, tried compiling a kernel with static support for my filesystems (ext2/ext3), but I always get a vfs error saying it can't mount root. That dpkg message said that I needed to enable initrd support, but I thought that was only if you're adding module support for filesystems? |
| 17:58.49 | nvz | Hawkwind: from the official package? |
| 17:59.00 | Hawkwind | nvz: I did apt-get install enlightenment, it installed without errors. I did Xfce4 as well, and xfce shows in the session menu, but enlightenment doesn't |
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| 17:59.15 | nvz | Hawkwind: run update-menus as root |
| 17:59.24 | blondie | hmm |
| 17:59.24 | Daedalus_ | smard: typically it says it can't mount root if it can't find your harddrive device. |
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| 17:59.30 | smard | I've been disabling ramdisk support and not enabling initrd in the config |
| 17:59.30 | abrotman | blondie: ? |
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| 17:59.36 | blondie | OK I fixed it :) |
| 17:59.40 | Hawkwind | nvz: update-menus will update the GUI login screen as well ? |
| 17:59.43 | blondie | it was apache2-common |
| 17:59.52 | nvz | Hawkwind: it updates all debian menus |
| 17:59.55 | abrotman | blondie: ah .. you wanted to remove the /etc/apache2/ folder ? |
| 17:59.59 | blondie | yes |
| 18:00.02 | Daedalus_ | smard: so if you're sure you've enabled support for your fs, then start looking lower in the chain of things that can break |
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| 18:00.11 | abrotman | blondie: if you would have said that to start . i could have told you the package :) |
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| 18:00.20 | Hawkwind | I've been using Mandriva/Mandriva for 4 years now. I'm making a change in life and Debian is the way I'm heading so I'm having to learn how ya'll do things |
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| 18:00.37 | smard | Daedalus_ the only thing I can think of is hard drive support, but I'm sure i've got that hooked in too |
| 18:00.44 | azeem | Hawkwind: we do things while rocking to 'em |
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| 18:00.51 | Daedalus_ | smard: are you using SATA, SCSI, ATA, or something else? |
| 18:00.56 | Hawkwind | azeem: Heh |
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| 18:01.12 | Hawkwind | So far I'm very happy and pleased. A bit lost/confused at times but I'm finding Debian quite comfortable |
| 18:02.22 | ove | Aer: giveup for tonight and try again tomorrow |
| 18:02.26 | Aerk | Kernel 2.6.8 and kernel 2.6.12 act like snobs and refuse to recognize my Thinkpad R30's APM. |
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| 18:02.35 | takatumi | Hawkwind: install debian-reference & refer in times of need. |
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| 18:02.56 | Hawkwind | takatumi: Awesome. Doing that right now |
| 18:03.07 | evilkenshin | my video playback randomly died for somereason |
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| 18:03.18 | evilkenshin | all i get is a dark blue ish screen instaed of video |
| 18:03.29 | nvz | evilkenshin: open you eyes ;) |
| 18:03.33 | evilkenshin | ... |
| 18:03.39 | Aerk | Kernel 2.4.27 will use my APM hardware, 2.6.8 won't. |
| 18:03.41 | doleyb | evilkenshin: -vo x11 |
| 18:03.42 | Hawkwind | I've always heard bad things about this channel, but so far in 5 - 6 days of being here I'm pleased and happy. Thanks for the continued help and support |
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| 18:03.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: http://gnu.ethz.ch/emacs.app.png |
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| 18:04.15 | evilkenshin | -vo i snot a command |
| 18:04.27 | iUninstall | Someone know where i can find a x86 cross-compiler for PPC |
| 18:04.35 | doleyb | evilkenshin: and "my video playback" is not a problem description. |
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| 18:05.05 | Daedalus_ | Hawkwind: Heh. We're not willing to be a frontend for google or man, and there are people out there who can't core with that. |
| 18:05.12 | evilkenshin | ok when i try to play video in a video player the player just desplays a dark bluish screen instead of the video |
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| 18:05.13 | Daedalus_ | err cope |
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| 18:05.20 | Aerk | Hawkwind: Don't troll. |
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| 18:05.47 | ke6isf | Aerk: Not sure that's trolling. |
| 18:05.55 | doleyb | evilkenshin: "a video player" is not the name of a program |
| 18:05.56 | Aerk | Hawkwind: This channel is very useful, don't makes lies up about people who think it isn't. |
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| 18:06.15 | evilkenshin | the thing is ANY video player does this |
| 18:06.20 | toresbe | Aerk: how is that trolling? |
| 18:06.27 | evilkenshin | kplayer mplayer vlc kaffeine etc |
| 18:06.29 | Daedalus_ | Aerk: whoa. He wasn't trolling... and if you sit on #freenode for a few weeks, you'll discover taht what he said has some merit |
| 18:06.37 | doleyb | evilkenshin: well, sounds like your X overlay is messed up. With mplayer, say -vo x11 instead of -vo xv |
| 18:07.13 | toresbe | Aerk: and it does have merit; #debian has a (no longer deservedly, imho) bad rep |
| 18:07.18 | Hawkwind | Daedalus_: Heh yeah. I've been an op in #mandriva for quite sometime and I know about those that wish to be spoonfed. It's quite annoying |
| 18:07.44 | Hawkwind | Aerk: Not trolling at all. I'm seriously liking Debian so far. It's not near as intimidating of a distro as I thought it was going to be |
| 18:07.44 | Aerk | The only people who dislike this channel are trolls or people with ground fish bones to fill their brains and ask "Is Debian a kernel or a distribution?" |
| 18:07.55 | Hawkwind | Aerk: LOL |
| 18:07.58 | Aerk | Hawkwind: Sorry. |
| 18:08.04 | abrotman | tarzeau: you're a sick sick man |
| 18:08.14 | nvz | Daedalus_, Hawkwind : its border line trolling.. it was redistributing hear-say which baited this response. |
| 18:08.26 | cast | Hawkwind: out of curiosity..what kinds of bad things did you hear? |
| 18:08.29 | nvz | this is a whole topic we should not have gotten on |
| 18:08.39 | nvz | and cast is troll bait :P |
| 18:08.46 | Hawkwind | nvz: True, and I do apologize for that |
| 18:08.56 | cast | nvz: thats if you believe him to be a troll ;p |
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| 18:09.39 | Hawkwind | Heh, seriously not trolling. In fact, it was foo who got me to try Debian and I'm quite thankful for it. It will soon become my desktop OS of choice |
| 18:10.17 | Aerk | Hawkwind: I am happy with Debian. |
| 18:10.31 | dtech | debian rocks hard |
| 18:10.33 | dtech | BUT |
| 18:10.36 | evilkenshin | ok the -vo thing worked |
| 18:10.42 | dtech | I do know why thsi channel gets a bad rep at times |
| 18:10.49 | evilkenshin | to get any player to work i do the same thign? |
| 18:11.09 | dtech | "We don't want joe sixpack running our operating system" pretty much sums it up |
| 18:11.13 | nvz | heh I got people leaving notes on my door to fix their computer |
| 18:11.14 | thingfish | dtech: more than a few of the people who were giving the channel a bad name no longer come here. |
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| 18:11.22 | doleyb | evilkenshin: preferably you fix your x11 config. Maybe you just need to restart x. |
| 18:11.36 | thingfish | snakeeyes! |
| 18:11.44 | cast | dtech: theres 800 people in here, chances are whatever is said about this chan has been true for at least one line |
| 18:11.47 | smard | Daedalus_ only using ata, and I'm fairly certain that that is static, I've disabled support for scsi/usb/sata |
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| 18:11.53 | cat | ok great got it working |
| 18:11.54 | bbrazil | nvz: post prices back on theirs |
| 18:11.55 | thingfish | well, of course, there's that nvz character... |
| 18:11.55 | cat | everything looks fine |
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| 18:12.27 | stew | ugh my array was degraded again |
| 18:12.33 | renato | how do I set up nvidia tvout on debian?? |
| 18:12.34 | stew | Nov 20 13:14:38 krib kernel: 3w-xxxx: scsi0: AEN: INFO: Rebuild started: Unit #0. |
| 18:12.41 | stew | i gotta figure out why that keeps happening |
| 18:12.48 | doleyb | renato: apt-get install nvidia-settings |
| 18:12.54 | stew | and i gotta get the firmware upgraded so that it would email me when that happens |
| 18:12.59 | nvz | renato: have you setup the nvidia drivers already? |
| 18:13.05 | stew | but i didn't wanna upgrade the firmware when it was degraded |
| 18:13.14 | renato | nvz: yes...the debian way |
| 18:13.15 | Daedalus_ | smard: are you using any sort of IDE extension card, or does your mobo support raid? |
| 18:13.18 | ke6isf | dtech: Well, when you count the people who expect help for other distros, or those who give no concise information, well, yeah. |
| 18:13.34 | renato | nvz: so i guess i have nvidia-settings |
| 18:13.35 | stew | i'm gonna leave the house and go shopping, i get too nervous when my array is degraded |
| 18:13.37 | nvz | renato: when I used the, they came with execlent documentation on how to configure them |
| 18:13.44 | nvz | renato: or use that :P |
| 18:13.47 | stew | !be raid barbie |
| 18:13.47 | dpkg | Configuring a RAID array is hard! |
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| 18:13.52 | doleyb | renato: i guess nvidia-settings is in marillat |
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| 18:14.03 | Hawkwind | nvz: Seems update-menus as root didn't help. Still no enlightenment listed in the Sessions menu |
| 18:14.04 | tincorrec | what clustered file systems are there? other than GFS ? |
| 18:14.07 | witless | i have a /dev/md0 raid device that's not getting mounted on boot. maybe /etc/mdadm-raid starts after the mount attempt? how do i get it to mount automatically? the entry is in fstab, and i'm able to mount it once the machine has booted |
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| 18:14.19 | dtech | I made my comment and am not going a step farther with it.. I think everyone understands what I meant |
| 18:14.21 | nvz | Hawkwind: sounds like its time to complain to whoever packaged it |
| 18:14.22 | smard | Daedalus_ extension card? my mobo supports raid, but I've got my harddrives hooked up to the ide slots |
| 18:14.27 | renato | doleyb: doesnt that get installed when i install the drivers the debian way |
| 18:14.30 | renato | ? |
| 18:14.37 | nvz | Hawkwind: they forgot to make a menu entry for it |
| 18:14.40 | thingfish | nvidia-settings is probably in non-free, doleyb. |
| 18:14.48 | Hawkwind | nvz: Can I remove the package I have and install it from a better qualified source ? |
| 18:14.51 | doleyb | renato: oops, i mean "nvtv", which is normal debian |
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| 18:15.05 | nvz | Hawkwind: if its from an official debian source, thats about the best you can do |
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| 18:15.33 | nvz | Hawkwind: you just need to first file a bug against the package for not putting itself in the session menu, then ask someone about your particular DM |
| 18:15.39 | Hawkwind | nvz: Would it be different if I got it from a testing source compared to getting it from a stable source ? |
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| 18:15.55 | nvz | Hawkwind: I think in KDE you can put the session types right into the /etc/kde3/kdm/kdm.conf or whatever it is |
| 18:16.01 | loxley_ | witless: if you format the drives with 'fd' you can have them detected and matched at boot, that would be the simplest i guess.. |
| 18:16.04 | Hawkwind | nvz: Where is the debian bug tracker ? I'd love to get this fixed if possible |
| 18:16.07 | nvz | Hawkwind: yes it would |
| 18:16.12 | dusk | whats a good way to install mplayer and the mplayer plugin? |
| 18:16.13 | nvz | Hawkwind: bugs.debian.org |
| 18:16.17 | ke6isf | !bts |
| 18:16.17 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 18:16.23 | Hawkwind | nvz: Ok, let me try getting it from a different source real quick and see |
| 18:16.25 | nvz | Hawkwind: you can use bug buddy or something to help you file the bug |
| 18:16.26 | dtech | btw was there a change made to security updates after the Sarge installer was released? Seems the haven't been working right on last 3 installs I've done |
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| 18:16.35 | doleyb | !tell dusk about marillat |
| 18:16.44 | nvz | Hawkwind: I would look up on the BTS if there is a bug filed first against enlightenment for this issue |
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| 18:16.49 | nvz | Hawkwind: and if so possibly append it |
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| 18:17.06 | Hawkwind | nvz: Yep going to do that in just a second. Thanks for the info |
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| 18:17.14 | bbrazil | dtech: there was a slight glitch - any cd downloaded on the first day didn't have security updates enabled by default |
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| 18:17.25 | renato | nvtv said segmentation fault |
| 18:17.38 | dtech | seems like maybe back when they had sarge in testing and opened up security updates for it you pointed to "sarge" and when it points to "stable" it doesnt connect anymore |
| 18:17.38 | renato | anyone know why?? |
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| 18:18.10 | doleyb | renato: did you rtfm, /usr/share/doc/nvtv/USAGE.gz ? |
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| 18:18.27 | renato | no |
| 18:18.29 | renato | sorry |
| 18:18.52 | nvz | I for one dont like bug buddy much.. it doesnt seem to have good severity levels, and doesnt return all relevant bugs on the package your are filing against.. |
| 18:18.58 | dusk | is there a way in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="???" to select which version of gcc to use? |
| 18:19.02 | Daedalus_ | smard: There are other slots that are just for raid? |
| 18:19.12 | nvz | you'd think the severity level choices would be the ones outlined on the debian website |
| 18:19.26 | nvz | and that when you choose a package it would return all bugs filed against it |
| 18:19.46 | Daedalus_ | dusk: update-aliases will change the system-wide version of gcc |
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| 18:19.59 | loke- | hello |
| 18:20.10 | loke- | whats up this sunday morning?! |
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| 18:20.23 | findme | music |
| 18:20.25 | findme | all the way |
| 18:20.28 | loke- | music? |
| 18:20.37 | loke- | good idea, sirius is nice |
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| 18:20.46 | Daedalus_ | loke-: Sex, drugs and rockandroll... |
| 18:20.48 | findme | live365 |
| 18:21.04 | dusk | daedalus: sorry.. but i cant find that package nor do I have it on my system, what do you mean by update-aliases? |
| 18:21.10 | roler | what was the name of the package that when a website wants to play an imbeded video, it launches your default player separately so you can watch it? |
| 18:21.33 | loke- | Daedalus_ throw some reggae in the mix too! |
| 18:21.44 | Daedalus_ | dusk: whoops... update-alternatives gotta be su |
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| 18:21.57 | loke- | roler apt-cache search |
| 18:21.59 | findme | roler, mplayer probably? |
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| 18:22.31 | dtech | just instaled mozilla firefox and the flashplayer.. did a build-dep on firefox and for some reason it complains about my desktop authority "Connection to :0.0 refused by server" |
| 18:22.39 | doleyb | Daedalus_: /etc/alternatives has no option for which gcc version. only if cc is gcc or not. |
| 18:22.49 | Daedalus_ | dtech: are you trying to launch it as root? |
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| 18:23.05 | dusk | doleyb: i noticed that too |
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| 18:23.12 | findme | dtech, as user export DISPLAY=":0.0"; xhost + |
| 18:23.22 | dusk | im trying to compile mplayer from http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer.php |
| 18:23.33 | dtech | not runnign as root no.. trying export |
| 18:23.37 | doleyb | dusk: there is a #mplayer for that |
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| 18:23.48 | findme | dtech, you have to use that before su..... |
| 18:23.51 | lopotok | hi |
| 18:23.58 | dusk | i am at the step for DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS but it yells at me for using 2.95gcc.. when I dont even have it installed |
| 18:23.59 | doleyb | dusk: although what you probably can do is export CC=gcc-3.04 |
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| 18:24.06 | lopotok | hello |
| 18:24.08 | roler | hmm |
| 18:24.14 | dtech | not su nor running it as root |
| 18:24.16 | kurumin | \quit |
| 18:24.24 | Daedalus_ | doleyb: is that something that changed from sarge to etch? |
| 18:24.34 | dtech | that was ru in konsole as a normal user |
| 18:24.39 | dtech | ru = run |
| 18:24.39 | roler | loke-, thats the thing, I don't know what to search for |
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| 18:24.58 | doleyb | dusk: wayc, did you try marillat? |
| 18:25.02 | lopotok | nobody says hello to me? |
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| 18:25.08 | amphi | lopotok: no |
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| 18:25.16 | lopotok | shit then |
| 18:25.17 | dusk | doleyb: not yet |
| 18:25.28 | dusk | doleyb: actually.. yea, I did last night, and i was getting the same error |
| 18:25.34 | loke- | lopotok sup dude |
| 18:25.35 | amphi | lopotok: would you like 800+ people to say hello to you? ;) |
| 18:25.46 | loke- | amphi i would |
| 18:25.52 | lopotok | no but at least one |
| 18:26.01 | lopotok | you for example |
| 18:26.02 | loke- | lopotok wassup dude |
| 18:26.03 | nvz | its kind of strange having 3 monitors here and only one on now |
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| 18:26.24 | amphi | !greet lopotok |
| 18:26.25 | dpkg | Gr33tz, lopotok |
| 18:26.34 | lopotok | thank you |
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| 18:26.45 | kurumin | do someone speak portuguese? |
| 18:26.48 | lopotok | i hereby declare dpkg a bot |
| 18:26.50 | tarzeau | !pt |
| 18:26.50 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:26.54 | dtech | also says XDM authorization key belongs to another client.. weird because I am the client |
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| 18:27.20 | kurumin | thanks |
| 18:27.40 | roler | hmm |
| 18:27.43 | mfrisch | I got a problem compiling a wx prog I have the headers and all wx related package, But I get this error;++: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.a: No such file or directory |
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| 18:27.53 | kickino | hello guys. :) |
| 18:27.56 | kurumin | thanks |
| 18:27.56 | roler | findme; i don't thnk it was mplayer; it was ssome funny name |
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| 18:28.28 | lopotok | can i install debian linux without partitionning my hd? |
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| 18:28.48 | Gathond | lopotok: depends on how its currently partitioned, but probably not |
| 18:28.48 | kickino | lopotok yes |
| 18:29.04 | nvz | that damn fan sounds like a band of crickets.. I need to blast it with some grease |
| 18:29.09 | lopotok | its only with windows partitions |
| 18:29.13 | dtech | could use vmware |
| 18:29.31 | lopotok | i have no linux partitions |
| 18:29.41 | kickino | does Debian GNU/Linux reboots (through the BIOS) after installing it? I guess it only chroots into the root system and make there a /sbin/init right? |
| 18:29.57 | tarzeau | kickino: yes. no |
| 18:30.09 | kickino | tarzeau sure? |
| 18:30.10 | tarzeau | kickino: it installs a new kernel, and wants to use that |
| 18:30.15 | tarzeau | kickino: yes. very. damn. sure. |
| 18:30.19 | kickino | I don't see GRUB/LiLo after the installtion |
| 18:30.24 | nvz | hmm it was the fan on the ceramin heater :P |
| 18:30.24 | tarzeau | kickino: since i had to patch d-i to use a real kernel |
| 18:30.34 | loke- | kickino did you install grub on the mbr? |
| 18:30.41 | kickino | yes loke- |
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| 18:30.56 | tarzeau | kickino: on the right harddisk? |
| 18:30.56 | loke- | kickino and when it boots you dont see grub? |
| 18:30.57 | findme | roler, http://www.linuxsoft.cz/en/sw_list.php?id_kategory=18 |
| 18:30.59 | findme | roler, xine? |
| 18:31.04 | dtech | okay this is silly with this firefox.. I've never had it error liek this before |
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| 18:31.34 | kickino | yes, after the installation - before tasksel/depbselect runs where I must login, when I reboot then manually I see grub/lilo - yes |
| 18:31.45 | roler | findme; its not an actual player. it's a wrapper that loads a player when a website is trying to show a microsoft media player imedded video |
| 18:31.47 | kickino | but before I don't |
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| 18:32.05 | valdyn_ | dtech: run xhost +, run firefox , run xhost - |
| 18:32.06 | findme | roler, hmm I need that one too my freind:-) |
| 18:32.26 | tarzeau | firefox over remote x? |
| 18:32.29 | dtech | am i going to have to do this every time i use firefox? |
| 18:32.39 | dtech | no here's what this is |
| 18:32.39 | nvz | roler, findme mplayer-mozilla |
| 18:32.41 | valdyn_ | dtech: only once |
| 18:32.42 | tarzeau | dtech: usually you don't ever have to use xhost |
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| 18:32.56 | dtech | wel lthen why would I need to use it now? |
| 18:32.57 | nvz | roler, findme : /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 18:33.22 | dtech | valdyn_ as in once for the life of the machine or once every time i log in |
| 18:33.39 | valdyn_ | dtech: once |
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| 18:33.53 | dtech | will every user on the machine have to do this? |
| 18:33.57 | mfrisch | I got a problem compiling a wx prog I have the headers and all wx related package, But I get this error;++: /usr/lib/libwx_gtk-2.4.a: No such file or directory Does anyone know where Debian puts that file?? |
| 18:33.58 | findme | nvz, thanks |
| 18:33.59 | valdyn_ | dtech: no idea |
| 18:34.04 | valdyn_ | dtech: probably yea |
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| 18:34.13 | tarzeau | !tell mfrisch about repeat |
| 18:34.15 | dtech | thats silly.. gotta be a fix |
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| 18:34.36 | valdyn_ | dtech: have you checked the bts? |
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| 18:34.54 | Schiz0 | I am having the weirdest problem ever, and can't seem to fix it |
| 18:35.04 | tarzeau | mfrisch: got this installed ? libwxgtk2.4-1 |
| 18:35.07 | findme | nvz, what I am looking at there in marillat site? |
| 18:35.13 | dtech | not yet.. my other 20 sarge installs never had this problem |
| 18:35.14 | tarzeau | Schiz0: we can't read your mind |
| 18:35.23 | Schiz0 | tarzeau- Gimmie a sec to type ;-P |
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| 18:35.34 | tarzeau | Schiz0: next time, type it right ahead |
| 18:35.45 | tarzeau | Schiz0: or are your doors labeled "door" and windows "window"? |
| 18:35.48 | mfrisch | tarzeau I went through all the wx packages and installed let me make sure. |
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| 18:35.58 | roler | hmm |
| 18:35.59 | HellDragon | http://el.c.la |
| 18:36.05 | dtech | is this possibly an XDM thing? maybe i should try installing KDM |
| 18:36.59 | mfrisch | tarzeau yup got it and the headers |
| 18:37.04 | tarzeau | HellDragon: HTML warning: line 4, HEAD section lacks the TITLE element |
| 18:37.05 | roler | nvz; how do I update the public key with that on the site? |
| 18:37.18 | tarzeau | HellDragon: that page doesn't have html |
| 18:37.22 | HellDragon | yes |
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| 18:37.34 | Schiz0 | I'm trying to transfer files across my LAN via downloading from a FTP server on a debian box, to a windows 98 box. I've done this before and it's fine. But I can't see a file in a certain dir which I need. All the permissions are the same as other files that I can see, I even renamed the file, and moved it into a folder where I can see other files. I ran 'file filename.iso' and it came up fine, I mounted |
| 18:37.34 | Schiz0 | the iso, and it listed the files fine...Anyone know why I can't see this file? |
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| 18:37.59 | Schiz0 | I've tried several FTP clients |
| 18:38.11 | valdyn_ | Schiz0: how big is it? |
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| 18:38.17 | Schiz0 | about 700 megs |
| 18:38.29 | tarzeau | Schiz0: what is the file called? |
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| 18:39.01 | Schiz0 | Does it matter? I've changed the name and extention several times...still doesn't detect it |
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| 18:39.04 | user_ | elo |
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| 18:39.08 | user_ | pollo |
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| 18:39.17 | Schiz0 | It's a image of a CD |
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| 18:39.22 | dtech | okay that seemed to be an XDM bug somehow.. just installed KDM and everything works fine |
| 18:39.22 | user_ | chao |
| 18:39.31 | tarzeau | Schiz0: yes tell use the filename |
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| 18:39.47 | dtech | I will never understand why XDM gets installed with KDE anyhow :| |
| 18:39.49 | Schiz0 | tarzeau- file.iso :-| |
| 18:39.54 | mfrisch | kick that script kiddy |
| 18:39.58 | Schiz0 | it doesn't start with a . |
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| 18:40.05 | Schiz0 | or have any odd chars in it |
| 18:40.08 | Schiz0 | just text |
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| 18:40.10 | tarzeau | Schiz0: what is the ftpd software you use? |
| 18:40.15 | Schiz0 | PureFTPd |
| 18:40.27 | valdyn_ | !scp |
| 18:40.27 | dpkg | scp is, like, Secure Copy, part of the ssh suite, and a very handy program. ssh + cpio. EXAMPLE: scp *.mp3 me@myotherbox:/var/tmp |
| 18:40.27 | tarzeau | Schiz0: have you used ftp client on windows, command line? is the ftp public? |
| 18:40.47 | Schiz0 | tarzeau- I used both command line and FlashFXP, no it isn't public, it's on my lan. |
| 18:41.01 | cast | what does dpkg mean by ssh + cpio? |
| 18:41.25 | tarzeau | Schiz0: i've never had problems |
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| 18:41.36 | doleyb | Schiz0: considering installing winscp*.exe on the microsoft machine, and try that. |
| 18:41.38 | tarzeau | Schiz0: but then i've not used pureftp ever |
| 18:41.41 | Schiz0 | Neither have i...I transfer files across it all the time |
| 18:41.46 | valdyn_ | cast: that scp uses ssh and cpio to do what it does |
| 18:41.54 | tarzeau | Schiz0: or a thttpd on linux and use the browser to get the iso |
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| 18:42.10 | Schiz0 | hm I guess I can use that, thanks |
| 18:42.27 | cast | valdyn_: oh, curious. did not know that |
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| 18:43.48 | obscuresoul | hi, i've installed grub and lilo but there are no configuration files? |
| 18:43.49 | obscuresoul | why? |
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| 18:44.10 | eegore | grub and lilo? |
| 18:44.25 | eegore | I did not know they could coexist |
| 18:44.30 | blondie | why have you installed both? |
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| 18:44.56 | obscuresoul | blondie because i installed lilo and didn't come with the configuration file |
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| 18:45.04 | obscuresoul | so then i installed grub |
| 18:45.14 | PhoenixMan | Hi. I'm a Debian newbie and I was wondering: how do I see how much HD space I have left? |
| 18:45.15 | mfrisch | obscuresoul you want to run liloconfig |
| 18:45.22 | valdyn_ | obscuresoul: so you are saying that /etc/lilo.conf doesnt exist despite you havin ginstalled the package lilo? |
| 18:45.23 | PhoenixMan | Also, I have a second harddrive installed but it isn't mounted. How do I mount it? |
| 18:45.27 | doleyb | mfrisch: df -h |
| 18:45.34 | obscuresoul | valdyn_ yes |
| 18:45.36 | PhoenixMan | Wait. |
| 18:45.41 | PhoenixMan | I only need to know how much space I got. |
| 18:45.48 | PhoenixMan | How do I see how much space is free & used on my harddrive? |
| 18:46.00 | azeem | PhoenixMan: type 'df' in a terminal |
| 18:46.06 | doleyb | PhoenixMan: df -h |
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| 18:46.30 | azeem | PhoenixMan: there are more accesible ways to do that with a mouse, but they depend on which desktop you are running |
| 18:46.36 | obscuresoul | mfrisch that's it that you :P |
| 18:46.45 | eegore | type df |
| 18:46.45 | obscuresoul | s/that/thank |
| 18:46.51 | PhoenixMan | I'm using a terminal. |
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| 18:47.11 | eegore | PhoenixMan: the only way to go |
| 18:47.19 | Dewi | I just upgraded udev in etch, and dpkg told me to "please purge the hotplug package". What do I need to do? |
| 18:47.21 | valdyn_ | obscuresoul: grub: /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst |
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| 18:47.44 | doleyb | Dewi: apt-get remove --purge hotplug |
| 18:47.51 | PhoenixMan | Ok. Thanks. |
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| 18:48.22 | valdyn_ | obscuresoul: how did you install debian without a boot manager at all though? |
| 18:48.24 | Dewi | doleyb: hotplug's status is 'rc'. I don't think it's installed. |
| 18:48.45 | valdyn_ | Dewi: but that isnt purged, config files are still around |
| 18:48.49 | obscuresoul | is not me, but my friend :P |
| 18:49.05 | Dewi | valdyn_: apt-get remove --purge doesn't change its status |
| 18:49.16 | Dewi | "Package hotplug is not installed, so not removed" |
| 18:49.22 | doleyb | Dewi: purge is not a status |
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| 18:49.42 | Dewi | right. so how do I purge something that isn't installed? |
| 18:49.48 | doleyb | !purge |
| 18:49.49 | dpkg | purge is, like, to complete wipe away a package, including its config files. Use apt-get remove --purge [package]..or if you allready removed package with apt-get remove, and forgot config files you can use 'dpkg -P <package>' to remove configs. To purge all config files of all removed packages: aptitude purge $(aptitude search '~c') |
| 18:50.00 | Dewi | "Package hotplug is not installed, so not removed" |
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| 18:50.27 | mfrisch | Dewi use dpkg |
| 18:50.31 | obscuresoul | valdyn_ what shall i do with /usr/share/doc/grub/examples/menu.lst? |
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| 18:50.50 | valdyn_ | obscuresoul: whatever you want, its a config file |
| 18:51.04 | obscuresoul | ok thank |
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| 18:51.26 | obscuresoul | you |
| 18:51.27 | obscuresoul | :P |
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| 18:54.16 | bayab00m | hi |
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| 18:58.07 | TonyB2005 | im using kernel 2.6.12-1 and my system clock is going way too fast |
| 18:58.16 | doublehp | I have two SCSI cards, let say SYM and QLA. How to force sda to be the first device of QLA, instead of first of SYM. Swaping cards on the mother board does not solve. |
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| 18:58.33 | Dewi | I'm running an X-windows program via ssh, and it just "minimised to tray". How do I get it back? :P |
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| 18:59.22 | abrotman | doublehp: i think you want /etc/modules.d/options .. or something like that |
| 18:59.29 | Dewi | that is to say, my xserver isn't really running a gnome environment; so there is no tray |
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| 18:59.59 | doleyb | Dewi: maybe alt-tab. But, gnome isn't the only thing with tray |
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| 19:00.16 | Dewi | alt-tab doesn't restore things in tray, even in gnome |
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| 19:00.41 | doleyb | Because you dont' ahve a tray, it's not in a tray, so alt-tab could work, or you could tell a little about what your situation. |
| 19:00.42 | Dewi | anyway, it hasn't gone to tray; it's just gone |
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| 19:00.51 | abrotman | Dewi: try middle click .. or right click or whatever |
| 19:00.53 | Om | Anyone have any experience of installing debian over freebsd, without CDs/Floppies. hdd space is an issue so installing debian chrooted isn't really an option. |
| 19:00.57 | Dewi | my xserver is cygwin X-server |
| 19:00.57 | abrotman | Dewi: right onthe desktop |
| 19:01.12 | doublehp | abrotman: /etc/modules can be accessed because it is on a disk that is sometimes sda sometimes sde, depending on which drives on other cards .... I REALLY need a kernel argument. |
| 19:01.14 | Dewi | I don't have a desktop, I'm running a single X app over ssh |
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| 19:01.26 | valdyn_ | Dewi: and no window manager? |
| 19:01.34 | WoodyWoodpecker | Tony: Use adjtimex |
| 19:01.34 | Dewi | the window manager is windows |
| 19:01.59 | TonyB2005 | but its going fast |
| 19:02.07 | abrotman | doublehp: hrm .. i'm not aware of anything .. maybe ask #kernel ? |
| 19:02.08 | valdyn_ | Dewi: inside the cygwin X server must be another WM |
| 19:02.17 | TonyB2005 | really fast |
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| 19:02.20 | Dewi | valdyn_: yeah, one without a tray |
| 19:02.31 | beef_sprocket | can anyone who has a moment to help with an exim4/dovecot setup pm me? |
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| 19:02.57 | jelly | TonyB2005: do you have new hardware? maybe a laptop? |
| 19:03.01 | doublehp | abrotman: only way to fix problem is to compleetely remove the SYM card, what is not an acceptable solution ( I have 90 disks, and can not accept removing cards ) |
| 19:03.07 | TonyB2005 | its a laptop |
| 19:03.12 | valdyn_ | Dewi: the WM is the thing that enables you to shrink to tray, so for gods sake you could tell us which WM you use |
| 19:03.17 | TonyB2005 | jelly: its a laptop |
| 19:03.18 | jelly | TonyB2005: AMD cpu? |
| 19:03.22 | TonyB2005 | yep |
| 19:03.24 | Dewi | valdyn_: Cygwin/X |
| 19:03.29 | TonyB2005 | not a 64 bit (i looked this up) |
| 19:03.36 | valdyn_ | Dewi: thats an X servre, not a WM |
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| 19:04.08 | jelly | TonyB2005: I remember seeing something like that on lkml some time ago. You could try a newer kernel. |
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| 19:04.47 | Dewi | valdyn_: it includes a window manager called "MultiWindow Mode" |
| 19:04.52 | valdyn_ | Dewi: were the window borders greenish? |
| 19:05.14 | Dewi | valdyn_: which is the default... no, the windows looked like windows ones |
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| 19:06.00 | Dewi | maybe it thinks it has a tray, but it seems to not work. Is there some... signal I can send to make the app show itself? |
| 19:06.01 | cap | cat, -artwiz-mintsstrong-medium-r-normal-*-*-80-*-*-p-*-iso8859-1 looks good in XMMS. |
| 19:06.20 | valdyn_ | Dewi: maybe its supposed to be shrunk to the windows taskbar |
| 19:06.28 | Dewi | valdyn_: but it's not. |
| 19:06.28 | doleyb | Dewi: if there was no tray, you could see the app. Probably you do have a tray, and just don't know it. |
| 19:06.43 | Dewi | right. |
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| 19:07.04 | Dewi | so if I concentrate really hard, I'll gain the ability to see this tray. |
| 19:07.11 | doublehp | abrotman: #kernel is quiet a silent room :( (quiet silent ...) |
| 19:07.14 | Dewi | in some kind of metaphysical sense? |
| 19:07.16 | doleyb | Dewi: run twm in the terminal |
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| 19:07.30 | valdyn_ | Dewi: its a) a bug or b) undocumented or c) in cygwins docs |
| 19:07.49 | vails | can't figure the proper way to use "mount" to mount an ISO image from my disk... |
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| 19:08.12 | valdyn_ | vails: mount -o loop file.iso |
| 19:08.17 | doleyb | doublehp: that's what i've been trying to tell her, but shes not in #cygwin |
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| 19:08.19 | doublehp | vails: mount -o loop file.iso /home/me/myfolder |
| 19:08.21 | Dewi | doublehp: it's not a debian topic, because it's a debian application that thinks it is in my tray |
| 19:08.24 | valdyn_ | vails: mount -o loop file.iso /som/where |
| 19:08.25 | Dewi | er it is rather :) |
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| 19:08.29 | abrotman | doublehp: maybe try #kernelnewbies on irc.oftc.net ? |
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| 19:08.47 | abrotman | i think #cygwin exists |
| 19:08.59 | doleyb | Dewi: so now you have learned not to push "Minimize to tray" when you're not aware of any tray, yay for learning. |
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| 19:09.10 | Dewi | doleyb: it's set to "minimize to tray on startup" |
| 19:09.23 | Dewi | doleyb: and if I can never get it out of the tray, I don't know how I will change that setting |
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| 19:09.29 | vails | many thanx! |
| 19:09.30 | doublehp | Dewi: doleyb there are no bugs ever: only features :D |
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| 19:09.51 | duncf | how does one ignore joins/parts? |
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| 19:09.54 | dli | Dewi, try whether you can find the window by Atl-Tab |
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| 19:10.09 | dli | Dewi, sorry, Alt-Tab |
| 19:10.10 | doleyb | Dewi: don't tell us anything about what's going on, don't even name the app |
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| 19:10.15 | Dewi | duncf: in irssi, I think /ignore #debian JOINS PARTS |
| 19:10.28 | Dewi | doleyb: the app is azureus |
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| 19:11.05 | duncf | Dewi: hmm... im using xchat |
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| 19:11.35 | Dewi | doleyb: if I name the cygwin window manager around here, all I hear is "oh, so it's windows-related." if I name a java application, I'll get the whole java stigma too. |
| 19:11.42 | doleyb | azureus is buggy anyway. But consider mv ~/.Azureus/azureus.config backup |
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| 19:12.01 | Dewi | it's less buggy than vncserver at the moment |
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| 19:12.11 | jelly | duncf: right click on channel tab -> channel name -> show join/part |
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| 19:12.18 | Dewi | I'm having no problems with azureus; just every X-windows environment |
| 19:12.24 | duncf | jelly: aha! thanks |
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| 19:12.53 | abrotman | Dewi: #cygwin does exist |
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| 19:13.09 | mike36 | hi a quick question packet sniffers can they only be used on a lan or can they be used over a wan |
| 19:13.14 | doleyb | Dewi: and you get those complaints because windows, cygwin, java, and azureus aren't debian. |
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| 19:13.27 | doublehp | Dewi: did you try E.17 ? |
| 19:13.29 | jelly | doleyb: azureus might be debian. |
| 19:13.30 | Dewi | doleyb: in case you haven't noticed, debian is a *distribution* |
| 19:13.36 | doleyb | mike36: wans are made of multiple lans, so they can be used in both |
| 19:13.37 | Dewi | doleyb: therefore 99% of it is other projects |
| 19:13.56 | doleyb | Dewi: and cygwin and java are not amoung those other projects. |
| 19:14.04 | mike36 | so someone on the internet could be packet sniffering me then |
| 19:14.11 | jelly | doleyb: And it bloody well should interoperate with a decent X11 server. |
| 19:14.17 | Dewi | doleyb: what do you mean? |
| 19:14.19 | doleyb | mike36: yes, concievably |
| 19:14.21 | Dewi | doleyb: my azureis is a debian package |
| 19:14.25 | Dewi | azureus even |
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| 19:14.37 | mike36 | thanks doleyb |
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| 19:14.38 | Dewi | doleyb: debian does has java packages |
| 19:14.55 | doleyb | Dewi: no, it doesn't |
| 19:14.55 | doublehp | Dewi: the fact it is a debian package does not mean that bugs are due to debian maintainer |
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| 19:15.12 | Dewi | correct, but it does make my question as on-topic as any other |
| 19:15.20 | doleyb | Dewi: the fact that your problems come from a non-debian and even non-linux project mean that #debian is unlikely to know about it. |
| 19:15.22 | doublehp | Dewi: doleyb maybe you could /j #troll ? |
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| 19:15.34 | smard | when I compile my kernel, should I pay any attentio to warnings? sometimes its in reference to SCSI ( as an eg ) but I don't have scsi enabled |
| 19:15.40 | jelly | Dewi: if it's some consolation, Azureus has problems with iconizing even on my Linux wm. ;-) |
| 19:15.44 | Dewi | doleyb: okay, you keep living in your fantasy land where debian includes no java |
| 19:15.47 | doleyb | Dewi: besides, did you mv ~/.Azureus like I said before. |
| 19:16.09 | Dewi | doleyb: no, because that'll lose my entire config |
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| 19:16.44 | jelly | Dewi: well, you can try and put it back afterwards? |
| 19:16.50 | Dewi | what's the command to start KDE (ie the equivalent of gnome-session)? |
| 19:16.59 | zinx | startkde |
| 19:17.01 | lobomufas | startkde |
| 19:17.03 | Dewi | thanks |
| 19:17.03 | deadcat | hows a 512mb mp3 player for $50? |
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| 19:17.16 | doleyb | Dewi: feel free to list those debian packages you think contain java, btw. |
| 19:17.18 | worldcorp | deadcat, awesome |
| 19:17.22 | deadcat | cool |
| 19:17.29 | worldcorp | deadcat, which one though |
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| 19:17.36 | Dewi | doleyb: "azureus" |
| 19:17.37 | robin_sz | meep |
| 19:17.51 | deadcat | findme: http://www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/oid/108446/originURLEncoded/http%253A%252F%252Fwww.circuitcity.com%252Frpsm%252FcatOid%252F-12952%252FN%252F20012898%2B20012952%252Frpem%252Fccd%252Fcategory.do/rpem/ccd/productDetail.do#tabs |
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| 19:18.15 | robin_sz | OK .. so I type echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward and it all works .. now where is the *correct* debian place to put this so it re-happens at next reboot??? |
| 19:18.23 | findme | deadcat, ooh good one. |
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| 19:18.40 | Gathond | robin_sz: /etc/sysctl.conf |
| 19:18.50 | findme | deadcat, my freind has that one i have the creative one. its good . did you read the review. You also need rechargable battery chargers. |
| 19:18.52 | robin_sz | Gathond: thanks. |
| 19:18.54 | Gathond | robin_sz: although its not that exact line :) |
| 19:18.55 | Dewi | doleyb: there is a java metapackage and plenty of packages which rely on it. |
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| 19:19.15 | deadcat | findme: cool. can i just mount it as /dev/sda1 ? |
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| 19:20.07 | doleyb | Dewi: and Java is not contained in any of those packages. Besides, we say "run a wm", we say "mv .Azureus", you refuse to try advice. |
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| 19:20.24 | findme | deadcat, you can but no guarantees. The reason i am saying is I bought a Rio and it got fried. |
| 19:20.24 | Dewi | doleyb: I am running a WM - I'm trying kde |
| 19:20.28 | beleys | Poy (re) |
| 19:20.30 | doleyb | Dewi: kde is not a wm |
| 19:20.35 | deadcat | findme: damn |
| 19:20.49 | deadcat | findme: then how you transfer file then? |
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| 19:20.54 | findme | deadcat, then i got sony, it needs a software shit, won't be able to mount it. |
| 19:20.58 | Dewi | doleyb: its doing much the same job for me. |
| 19:21.15 | findme | deadcat, i will connect the creative one, haven't done it so far though. |
| 19:21.21 | robin_sz | Gathond: net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 ?? |
| 19:21.23 | deadcat | k |
| 19:21.31 | findme | deadcat, i have a laptop i will probably use it to transfer m$ |
| 19:21.36 | Gathond | robin_sz: yes |
| 19:21.38 | Dewi | doleyb: the only reason I was using cygwin X was that gnome-session was crashing out every few minutes. |
| 19:21.39 | robin_sz | ta |
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| 19:21.51 | Dewi | doleyb: but I wasn't sure if it was gnome-session or vncserver |
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| 19:22.01 | robin_sz | :q |
| 19:22.04 | findme | deadcat, it is good no doubt. but if you want to spend more there is creative 60GB |
| 19:22.05 | Dewi | doleyb: now that I've exchanged gnome for kde we'll soon find out |
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| 19:22.28 | doleyb | Dewi: btw, why are you running azureus? To download to a remote over ssh, use screen+bittornado |
| 19:22.52 | brc_ | anybody know why sign.sh is in only in libapache-mod-ssl (http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=sign.sh&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=testing&arch=i386) and not apache2's ssl package? |
| 19:22.54 | jelly | deadcat: I have a Creative Nomad and the mp3s can't be seen over usb-storage. However there's relatively decent library and some apps built upon it that can access it. |
| 19:22.57 | Dewi | doleyb: bittornado is console-based? |
| 19:22.58 | TheCount | ... or torrentflux |
| 19:23.01 | deadcat | findme: i have no $. this is $$ to me. )= i had one $240 (128mb back in the day) but was stolen from my car few months ago with 9 songs in it.. |
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| 19:23.25 | deadcat | jelly: cool. |
| 19:23.29 | doleyb | Dewi: both bittornado and bittorrent are console (they have X11 guis also) |
| 19:23.37 | robin_sz | mmm .. I lurv debian :) |
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| 19:23.57 | abrotman | brc_: what are you trying to do ? |
| 19:23.57 | doleyb | Dewi: apt-get install bittornado;btdownloadcurse file.torrent |
| 19:23.59 | findme | deadcat, sorrry man, i know how it hurts to spend $200+ on a palm sized player. |
| 19:24.09 | brc_ | sign some csr's... is sign.sh depricated? |
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| 19:24.24 | abrotman | brc_: it might be .. i used docs at mod_ssl or openssl |
| 19:24.25 | sorcre | I have an X2 4600+ CPU with 2 gigs of ram, should I bother with 64 bit? or should I stick to the 32 bit version of debian? |
| 19:24.32 | findme | deadcat, whats your budget? |
| 19:24.33 | Dewi | doleyb: does bittornado allow one to queue and simultaneously download torrents? |
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| 19:24.36 | deadcat | findme: ya... we sure wasted $$ when these shits were new eh? (= |
| 19:24.46 | findme | deadcat, you bet |
| 19:24.48 | abrotman | sorcre: what do you want to do with it? |
| 19:24.53 | Dewi | TheCount: does torrentflux allow one to queue and simultaneously download torrents? |
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| 19:25.24 | findme | deadcat, http://www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?CategoryID=pcmcat10200050002&id=1118844599983&skuId=7330435&type=product |
| 19:25.33 | TonyB2005 | woah, everything is reallly fast, not just the clock, a dvd i was watching looks like fucking fast foreward |
| 19:25.38 | brc_ | abrotman, the mod_ssl docs indicate using sign.sh .... http://www.modssl.org/docs/2.8/ssl_faq.html#ToC29 |
| 19:25.41 | SlayerXP | good evening ladies, gentleman, boys, girls and abrotman |
| 19:25.42 | doleyb | Dewi: well, screen allows you to simulataneously do any console task. there's also btlaunchmanycurses. Plus, azureus doesn't even work half the time. |
| 19:25.44 | sorcre | abrotman: Right now I'm using the 32 bit version of debian, I mainly use it to program (java and c++). I also play warcraft on Cedega from time to time |
| 19:25.44 | abrotman | TonyB2005: probably becuase of the clock |
| 19:25.48 | deadcat | findme: i think this $50 is ok. that means i have to buy that audio tape jack thing (audio out to type player) since that was stolen as well hahah |
| 19:25.49 | TonyB2005 | :| |
| 19:25.50 | doublehp | my box can boot OK with a given default setting about kernel+initrd - how to tweak the initrd ? (remove a file, edit a script), and rebuild a Debian compliant pair of kernel/initrd WITHOUT re-apting or compiling any bit of source ? |
| 19:25.57 | jelly | TonyB2005: did you try a newer kernel from kernel.org? |
| 19:26.01 | abrotman | sorcre: does cedega work on pure64 ? |
| 19:26.05 | Dewi | doleyb: it's been totally solid for me |
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| 19:26.07 | robin_sz | TonyB2005: either, the computer is fucked, or you are on speed. pick one. |
| 19:26.07 | findme | deadcat, k, enjoy ! |
| 19:26.10 | sorcre | abrotman: not sure |
| 19:26.11 | TonyB2005 | :| |
| 19:26.15 | abrotman | brc_: i used openssl then ... |
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| 19:26.23 | abrotman | sorcre: that might be a deciding factor for you |
| 19:26.23 | brc_ | ah... |
| 19:26.27 | Dewi | doleyb: and no, running several copies of a torrent program is nothing like having a properly configurable queue |
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| 19:26.44 | Dewi | doleyb: for a start, I need to limit my total upstream to 50k/s. Hard to do that across N screens |
| 19:27.02 | brc_ | I'll just pull it out of the libapache-mod-ssl package, however it'd probably be good to put it in the apache2 package for the future |
| 19:27.03 | abrotman | TonyB2005: have you tried any other kernels ? |
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| 19:27.13 | abrotman | brc_: file a bug against apache2-common or something |
| 19:27.19 | brc_ | k |
| 19:27.41 | deadcat | findme: how did you actually fried yours when you mount? |
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| 19:27.51 | abrotman | brc_: or they'll tell you're stupid and you didn't read the docs :) |
| 19:28.03 | TonyB2005 | adjtimex says the frequency is 0.... |
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| 19:28.04 | brc_ | heh |
| 19:28.04 | abrotman | brc_: i'm not saying you are .. but you/i may have missed something obvious |
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| 19:28.12 | brc_ | of course |
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| 19:28.18 | sorcre | abrotman: thanks, I think I'll stick to 32 bit |
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| 19:28.24 | doleyb | Dewi: there is #azureus-users |
| 19:28.24 | sorcre | seems like a waste though |
| 19:28.26 | brc_ | you don't NEED sign.sh, but it makes it much simplier |
| 19:28.43 | Dewi | doleyb: anyway, I need to get some sleep. have to be at work in 3.5 hours. |
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| 19:28.45 | samuel | if someone gets into your computer with a normal user account what sort of damage could they do to a debian sid system? |
| 19:28.49 | telaz | hi all, how to I crypt a password to put it manually in /etc/passwd ? |
| 19:28.55 | abrotman | sorcre: it really depends on your usage .. |
| 19:29.04 | abrotman | sorcre: if you want to know more . maybe ask #debian-amd64 |
| 19:29.25 | deadcat | telaz: passwd + expect |
| 19:29.30 | sorcre | abrotman: I don't actually "need" it, just seems like a nice thing to have |
| 19:29.32 | Dewi | doleyb: yeah, but azureus doesn't have a concept of a system tray - the debian X client libs do. Anyway, it seems to be stable under KDE. |
| 19:29.51 | abrotman | sorcre: another option is to have a 32bit chroot in your pure64 install |
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| 19:30.01 | doleyb | Dewi: no, since you're not using a Debian xserver, they don't have your tray |
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| 19:30.10 | sorcre | abrotman: yea, I heard it's a pain in the arse to set up though |
| 19:30.14 | telaz | deadcat: actually, I want to put passowrd in the conf file of proftpd ... so I'd like to know how to crypt the passowrds |
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| 19:30.19 | abrotman | sorcre: odd .. i heard the opposite :) |
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| 19:30.27 | abrotman | RichiH: KILL! |
| 19:30.31 | sorcre | abrotman: really? |
| 19:30.32 | findme | what is the problem with eagles? |
| 19:30.39 | doleyb | Dewi: I was just trying to push you to actually _describe_ problems, instead of being completely misleading and implying you're using debian stuff, when you weren't |
| 19:30.39 | abrotman | sorcre: so i've heard |
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| 19:30.42 | abrotman | findme: they suck ? |
| 19:30.54 | findme | abrotman, boy worst game ever |
| 19:30.59 | robin_sz | eagles? they crap on yor head from a great height? |
| 19:31.05 | abrotman | findme: worst season ever? :) |
| 19:31.06 | sorcre | abrotman: Hmmm, I think I might try it. Heh, I can't even isntall the 64 bit version though (I get a dependency error when installing) |
| 19:31.09 | samuel | i found a user account with a dacy.tgz and another dir doing alot of ssh activity (scans mabe?) and killed it, but im wondering if it might have been something more? |
| 19:31.10 | robin_sz | or a shite mid 70s pop band? |
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| 19:31.25 | abrotman | robin_sz: US Football team based in philadelphia |
| 19:31.37 | deadcat | abrotman: they suck (= |
| 19:31.43 | abrotman | yes they do |
| 19:31.46 | Dewi | doleyb: the only debian stuff I wasn't using, was the X-server. The debian-based X-server had just crashed on me 3 times in 10 minutes, so I swapped it out for a bit. |
| 19:31.50 | samuel | checking the logs it looks like only one account was used, a normal user account |
| 19:31.50 | abrotman | i may live here . .but i'm not an eagles fan |
| 19:31.59 | robin_sz | abrotman: oh, right. thats sort of like our rugby game, but with added padding, right? |
| 19:32.06 | findme | abrotman, i don't live there never have, but I am a eagles fan |
| 19:32.12 | abrotman | findme: i'm sorry :) |
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| 19:32.18 | findme | abrotman, not to worry |
| 19:32.24 | abrotman | robin_sz: yeah .. rugby for wussies :) |
| 19:32.24 | deadcat | abrotman: atleast you're not in the bay area, raiders, 49ers, giants, A's they all suck. except this season the warriors are ok... |
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| 19:32.37 | robin_sz | abrotman: right, thats the one. ;) |
| 19:32.38 | doublehp | how to rebuild my initrd and alter some script inside it ? |
| 19:32.40 | findme | broncos |
| 19:32.41 | abrotman | deadcat: A's are fine .. |
| 19:32.51 | deadcat | abrotman: they choke more than paris hilton |
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| 19:32.54 | abrotman | chanserv? |
| 19:33.09 | dimm0k | anyone having cd-rw problems using kernel 2.6.15-rc1? everything was fine for me with kernel 2.6.13.4... |
| 19:33.09 | abrotman | deadcat: they may .. but they at least had a winning record :) |
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| 19:33.11 | jelly | Dewi: hum... did you do anything special when your Linux X server crashed? Like trying to minimize/restore Azureus? Cause that what happens here... ;-) |
| 19:33.16 | robin_sz | doublehp: you have to write a script to edit the thing on the fly ... |
| 19:33.19 | abrotman | dimm0k: that kernel isn't in debian .. ask #kernel |
| 19:33.25 | Dewi | jelly: nah, it was really random. |
| 19:33.34 | jelly | darn |
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| 19:33.41 | deadcat | abrotman: well. i grew up on the other side of the bridge so fuck A's and raiders heheh |
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| 19:33.44 | duncf | telaz: you could write a quick and dirty perl script for that |
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| 19:33.47 | abrotman | deadcat: heh |
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| 19:33.58 | duncf | telaz: using the crypt() function |
| 19:33.58 | Dewi | jelly: and the first I would see would be gnome-session saying "can't find the X server". However, the only thing I had updated recently was gnome, and now that I'm using KDE, it seems fine again. |
| 19:34.20 | deadcat | or the md5 function |
| 19:34.25 | Dewi | jelly: so it seems like gnome has yet again made their shizz xorg-specific so that headless users of vncserver, like myself, are left high and dry |
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| 19:34.37 | Dewi | jelly: it's not the first time - but it's never been this serious before |
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| 19:35.19 | Dewi | jelly: but I'll have to complain about it another day... work is only about 3 hours away, and I could use some more sleep :P |
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| 19:35.21 | sorcre | I know this is probably the wrong place to ask (but the amd64 channel seems to be dead) but did anyone else have trouble setting up debian with the netinst ISO? |
| 19:35.26 | doublehp | robin_sz: I dont get you ... on which fly ? boot time ? build time ? |
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| 19:35.54 | abrotman | sorcre: which did you use .. the sarge or the etchBeta1 ? |
| 19:35.55 | tarzeau | takatumi: moo |
| 19:36.02 | jelly | Dewi: go to bed then, I suspect torrents are not _that_ important. <g> |
| 19:36.06 | robin_sz | doublehp: basically, you cant just edit a file that mkinitrd will include .. you have ot create a file that will be run as part of the initrd tools, that will edit the file you want to modify while its in a temp dire, at build time, just before it goes into the cramfs for the initrd image |
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| 19:36.21 | Rammst3in | how run this perl code:? http://ikecrack.sourceforge.net/IKEProber.pl |
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| 19:36.22 | Rammst3in | :( |
| 19:36.23 | sorcre | I get a dependency error (while trying to download/install packages after the core is setup) |
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| 19:36.34 | sorcre | abrotman: sarge |
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| 19:36.52 | deadcat | what do you call that thing that interface with the audio out and an audio tape player? you know.. that thing |
| 19:36.53 | robin_sz | doublehp: because .. if you just edited the file directly, it would affect the initrd build for all kernel variants on that machine |
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| 19:37.17 | abrotman | sorcre: not that i'veheard .. but i've only done a few amd64 sarge netinsts |
| 19:37.18 | TheCount | deadcat: daemon - muahaha |
| 19:37.21 | jelly | Rammst3in: works fine here. |
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| 19:37.30 | doublehp | robin_sz: my NEED is to prevent the kernel to load a given driver: I just need to remove a known driver from initrd ... |
| 19:37.32 | deadcat | TheCount: no.. |
| 19:37.35 | dusk | does anyone have a good tutorial for mplayer/mplayer plugin, ive been trying for the past 2 hours and im about to punch my monitor |
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| 19:37.40 | robin_sz | doublehp: exactly |
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| 19:37.48 | Dewi | jelly: :P goodnight |
| 19:37.58 | abrotman | dusk: do you have mplayer and the mozilla plugin installed ? |
| 19:38.02 | doublehp | robin_sz: what about if I extract, delete, rebuild manually ? |
| 19:38.08 | robin_sz | doublehp: thats what I had to do, to stop it loading megaraid as part of a kernel upgrade |
| 19:38.09 | sorcre | abrotman: I selectd the desktop / standard setup options but got an error. I tried the manual package selection option, but I don't quite get it. |
| 19:38.15 | dusk | abrotman: i *think* i have mplayer installed |
| 19:38.17 | robin_sz | doublehp: no chance, cramfs is read only |
| 19:38.23 | abrotman | dusk: dpkg -l mplayer |
| 19:38.26 | Rammst3in | can anybody help me? i need run this perl code: http://ikecrack.sourceforge.net/IKEProber.pl |
| 19:38.27 | abrotman | errm .. |
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| 19:38.33 | stew | dpkg -l | grep mplayer |
| 19:38.34 | dpkg | grep mplayer |
| 19:38.40 | abrotman | wait . it might not be called mplayer |
| 19:38.40 | jelly | Rammst3in: please dont msg. It's a pretty standard perl script, does it not run on your Debian? |
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| 19:38.47 | deadcat | Rammst3in: damn trojan bastard |
| 19:38.49 | abrotman | Rammst3in: noone here is going to help you run an IKE cracker |
| 19:38.50 | dusk | stew: nothing shows up |
| 19:38.55 | doublehp | robin_sz: cramfs can be mounted as loop; then extract files; then rebuild stuff :) |
| 19:39.03 | robin_sz | yes, I know |
| 19:39.06 | dusk | stew: but mplayer delivers options on the command line |
| 19:39.11 | jelly | abrotman: ahh... why don't you let me play for a second. ;-) |
| 19:39.19 | stew | dusk: oh you installed it from source then, and you are on your own |
| 19:39.32 | abrotman | !tell dusk about mplayer |
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| 19:40.10 | dusk | stew: i tried mallrats version, but it kept giving me errors |
| 19:40.19 | dusk | stew: how do I clean up what I just installed? (remove mplayer) |
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| 19:40.26 | abrotman | make uninstall ? |
| 19:40.41 | abrotman | Rammst3in: DO NOT msg me |
| 19:40.41 | sorcre | abrotman: should I try etchBeta1 instead? |
| 19:41.00 | dusk | abrotman: I deleted that source |
| 19:41.00 | abrotman | sorcre: i haven't tried it .. you can |
| 19:41.07 | dusk | abrotman: i want this OFF my machine |
| 19:41.16 | robin_sz | doublehp: I suggest you read man mkinitrd |
| 19:41.34 | abrotman | dusk: you're going to have to try to remove it manually .. hopefully it installed to /usr/local/ to make your life easier |
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| 19:41.47 | sledge_ | hi |
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| 19:42.16 | doublehp | robin_sz: thats it :) was lame to try to remember |
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| 19:42.34 | doublehp | robin_sz: mount -o loop, cp, rm, mkinitrd, reboot |
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| 19:43.00 | dusk | abrotman: thanks!!! |
| 19:43.03 | abrotman | dusk: ? |
| 19:43.05 | sledge_ | i've a pdf-file with a missing the font "starmath". how do i get this font? |
| 19:43.07 | robin_sz | doublehp: well, that will work ... the cp stage is vital I guess |
| 19:43.18 | sorcre | this is a stupid question, but what's easier to set up? the netinst or Business card image? |
| 19:43.19 | sledge_ | i mean, how do i "install" this font? |
| 19:43.30 | dusk | abrotman: I tried mallrats mplayer deb thing.. which do you reccomend? (i just want to watch vids [xvid, wmv, etc] and watch them from firefox as well)> |
| 19:43.35 | dvs | sorcre: they are the same |
| 19:43.36 | stew | dusk: the recommended way to install mplayer is via marillat: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 19:43.48 | dusk | stew: i did but was getting all kinds of wacky errors |
| 19:43.56 | slibs | wacky errors :D |
| 19:44.02 | slibs | sounds wacky |
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| 19:44.08 | dusk | stew: like when I tried to install mplayer-386 it said that it couldnt and WOULDNT install some met packages |
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| 19:44.10 | abrotman | dusk: duno .. i don't have mplayer |
| 19:44.18 | |splat| | my xserverrc has "exec /usr/bin/X11/X -dpi 100 -nolisten tcp" in it, but when i run startx, i get a "no file or folder /usr/bin/X11/X" is it ok to just uncomment this line or how do i change it so it points to the right thing? |
| 19:44.19 | sorcre | dvs: k, thanks |
| 19:44.20 | dusk | unmet* |
| 19:44.30 | tarzeau | someoen remembers maze of galious? |
| 19:44.32 | jelly | dusk: please paste the errors somewhere. |
| 19:44.33 | abrotman | dusk: why don't you show us those errors |
| 19:44.34 | dvs | sorcre: no problem |
| 19:44.39 | abrotman | tarzeau: your bedroom ? |
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| 19:44.48 | dusk | jelly: okay, let me try installing again, brb |
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| 19:44.55 | tarzeau | abrotman: my bedroom? it's got a bed there |
| 19:44.55 | robin_sz | after LOTS of pissing about .. I have now linked the office and factory LANs over openVPN tunnel .. this is awesome .. print stuff inthe factory from the office 10 miles away :)) |
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| 19:45.00 | abrotman | sorcre: dvs they are NOT the same .. not even close |
| 19:45.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: and a guitar, heh ;) |
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| 19:45.30 | hojax | i am having trouble setting up acpi on my friends laptop here |
| 19:45.31 | doublehp | robin_sz: that an idea : alter the trans of Hurd that allow to change on the fly zipped files, and write support for ISO966? (CDs) and ROM images :) |
| 19:45.34 | dvs | abrotman: the same setup process? |
| 19:45.44 | sorcre | abrotman: what is the difference? |
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| 19:45.52 | abrotman | dvs: one small difference .. if your NIC doesn't work with the BC installer .. you're screwed |
| 19:45.54 | abrotman | sorcre: ^^ |
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| 19:46.09 | abrotman | and i'd say that's significant |
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| 19:46.22 | jelly | robin_sz: oh, the power of vpn! Nothing like mounting mp3s and porn shares from work... um, forget what I just said. |
| 19:46.22 | avu | hi |
| 19:46.26 | sorcre | abrotman: thanks |
| 19:46.28 | dusk | jelly: The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:46.28 | dusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:46.28 | dusk | E: Broken packages |
| 19:46.31 | abrotman | hojax: have any errors or any such thing that might help us ? |
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| 19:46.41 | abrotman | !info libstdc++6 sid |
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| 19:46.43 | dusk | jelly: i HAVE that program too |
| 19:46.49 | dpkg | libstdc++6: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section libs, is required. Version: 4.0.2-4 (sid), Packaged size: 343 kB, Installed size: 960 kB |
| 19:46.54 | abrotman | !info libstdc++6 etch |
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| 19:47.01 | dusk | ill also using etch |
| 19:47.02 | robin_sz | jelly: for me, its the joy of sharing Sage accountign data ... similar, but less flesh |
| 19:47.04 | hojax | abrotman, jambeau:/home/emily# acpid |
| 19:47.04 | hojax | acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: No such file or directory |
| 19:47.04 | hojax | jambeau:/home/emily# |
| 19:47.08 | dpkg | libstdc++6: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section libs, is required. Version: 4.0.2-2 (etch), Packaged size: 340 kB, Installed size: 952 kB |
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| 19:47.13 | abrotman | hojax: have any modules loaded |
| 19:47.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: no it's really a nice game, i've packaged for debian: http://www.braingames.getput.com/mog/ |
| 19:47.20 | abrotman | dusk: don't use the unstable version of mplayetr |
| 19:47.28 | robin_sz | oh, if anyone cares, Sage's idea of a database sucks. badly. |
| 19:47.33 | dusk | abrotman: okay, one sec |
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| 19:47.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: are things progressing better with Myon ? |
| 19:47.58 | Urthmover | has anyone run freeNX? |
| 19:47.59 | jelly | dusk: Here's what I'd do: try "apt-get -f install" first. then try installing again. then try etch or sarge marillat repos. |
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| 19:48.06 | Urthmover | its a remote server/client |
| 19:48.08 | avu | I was just trying to build apache. I downloaded the sources with 'apt-get source apache', did 'apt-get build-dep apache' and 'apt-get build-dep apache-ssl', then did a 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' and got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/upKUUX36.html any hnts on how to fix this? |
| 19:48.19 | dusk | jelly: how can I add her key? |
| 19:48.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: it's up to me to answer the questions (but when i have sponsors, i rather work on packages and other uhm things) |
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| 19:48.40 | jelly | dusk: hmm... what's mentioned on hisweb page somewhere. |
| 19:48.41 | abrotman | hojax: you have to have the modules loaded for acpi to work |
| 19:48.49 | jelly | s/what/that/ |
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| 19:49.23 | abrotman | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
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| 19:49.43 | jelly | dusk: also /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 19:49.57 | abrotman | did Rammst3in go away ? |
| 19:50.00 | hojax | abrotman, what modules can i load ? |
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| 19:50.43 | abrotman | hojax: i have quite a few .. button,fan, thermal, battery ... |
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| 19:51.01 | dusk | jelly: kinda dumkb question but.. i am using etch, should I put the etch thing from marillat in my sources? |
| 19:51.10 | Gepeto | Hi guys, quick Q: When I apt-get install packages (libapache-mod-php4 and php4-mysql in this case) it seems the configuration isn't being run so I have to manually edit modules.conf and php4.ini.. any idea why? I tried purging these packages and manually rejmoving everything but it never seems to ask me to configure them.. |
| 19:51.11 | abrotman | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
| 19:51.27 | jelly | yeah, what he said. ;-) |
| 19:51.28 | hojax | abrotman, modprobe -i battery |
| 19:51.29 | hojax | FATAL: Error inserting battery (/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-386/kernel/drivers/acpi/battery.ko): No such device |
| 19:51.30 | dusk | abrotman: yep :) okay cool |
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| 19:51.42 | abrotman | Gepeto: do you have another version of php installed .. like php4-cli ? |
| 19:51.52 | abrotman | hojax: how old is the laptop ? |
| 19:52.09 | hojax | it has a 600mhz intel 3 cpu |
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| 19:52.16 | Gepeto | abrotman: it seems php4-cli is installed yes |
| 19:52.16 | abrotman | hojax: it might not have acpi |
| 19:52.16 | dusk | okay, im going to paste some stuff |
| 19:53.21 | dusk | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:53.21 | dusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.21 | dusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.21 | dusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:53.21 | dusk | E: Broken packages |
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| 19:53.21 | dvs | hojax: model number please (and make) |
| 19:53.21 | Gepeto | abrotman: I'll remove it and try again? |
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| 19:53.22 | abrotman | Gepeto: yeah .. it picks one .. and does that one .. i found the same issue |
| 19:53.22 | dusk | oops |
| 19:53.22 | hojax | dvs, hp pavilion n5150 |
| 19:53.22 | Gepeto | abrotman: ohh |
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| 19:53.22 | stew | dusk: what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:53.22 | abrotman | !acpi |
| 19:53.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, acpi is Advanced Configuration and Power Interface -- a power management interface that gives more control to the BIOS, or horribly horribly broken. for suspend software check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , or "run this arbitrary code in ring 0", or http://acpi.sf.net/ |
| 19:53.22 | Gepeto | abrotman: will try right away |
| 19:53.23 | dusk | 3.1 etch |
| 19:53.24 | Jmax | does anyone know if http://www.php-accelerator.co.uk/ is in aptitude? |
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| 19:53.24 | dusk | stew: 3.1 etch |
| 19:53.24 | stew | dusk: 3.1 is sarge not etch |
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| 19:53.25 | dusk | stew: etch for sure |
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| 19:53.26 | dusk | stew: testing in sources.list (so I can get xorg ;p) |
| 19:53.30 | blanky | to install G++, I do build-essential right? apt-get install build-essential, sorry, I come from ubuntu I'm kinda noobish |
| 19:53.30 | jelly | hojax: you _might_ have better luck with apm on that machine. My P3/500 Armada had things working better with apm, and on 2.4 kernel. |
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| 19:53.52 | hojax | jelly, do i have to install modules to use apm? |
| 19:53.53 | stew | dusk: and which marillat repository? |
| 19:54.10 | hojax | when i run "apmd" i get "No APM support in kernel" |
| 19:54.11 | dusk | stew: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ etch main |
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| 19:54.29 | avu | is it possible to only build apache (but not apache-ssl) from the apache source package? |
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| 19:54.36 | jelly | hojax: modprobe apm. But you'll have to reboot, it can't be loaded after acpi has been loaded. |
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| 19:54.46 | blockd | blanky: the package exists in Debian too |
| 19:54.49 | hojax | jelly, cool, ill try that, thanks! |
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| 19:55.08 | tarzeau | does someone have got a .wav with no noise at all? very small/empty one? |
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| 19:55.09 | blanky | blockd: oh okay, thanks, so build-essential will work |
| 19:55.12 | stew | dusk: looks like his etch packages need to be rebuilt for the new jack then |
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| 19:55.20 | stew | dusk: you could try his sid packages |
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| 19:55.26 | blanky | apt-get install emacs installs emacs right? |
| 19:55.26 | dusk | stew: okay |
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| 19:55.36 | tarzeau | blanky: no |
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| 19:55.52 | blondie | blanky: no it installs vim |
| 19:56.00 | jelly | hojax: if you just want a readout of sensors data, you could try "mbmon". |
| 19:56.09 | blondie | (apt-get has taste ;)) |
| 19:56.12 | stew | dusk: are you sure you shouldn't be using mplayer-586? |
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| 19:56.23 | dusk | stew: i have no idea at this point |
| 19:56.26 | hojax | k, ill try rebooting now.... |
| 19:56.27 | dusk | stew: my head hurts |
| 19:56.29 | stew | dusk: what cpu do you have? |
| 19:56.32 | magyar | is there a way to burn cda format from MP3's on K3B? |
| 19:56.41 | dusk | stew: athlon barton 2500+ (k7) |
| 19:56.41 | blanky | which one do i need for it to install emacs guys, what's the aptitude/deb package for emacs |
| 19:56.47 | stew | dusk: i checked, his sid packages are in fact compiled against the libjack in etch |
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| 19:56.51 | blockd | blondie: you just think it does. It really installer viper ;) |
| 19:57.09 | blanky | emacs21 installs it right? |
| 19:57.17 | blockd | blanky: "aptitude search emacs" shoule show you what's available |
| 19:57.21 | jelly | dusk: just install "mplayer-586"... it should work even on amd cpus. |
| 19:57.23 | blockd | or apt-get, to each his own... |
| 19:57.34 | blockd | apt-cache search rather |
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| 19:57.35 | abrotman | blockd: apt-cache search |
| 19:57.39 | blockd | ^ |
| 19:57.41 | stew | dusk: you want mplayer-k6 then |
| 19:57.45 | blanky | thanks |
| 19:57.55 | dusk | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 19:57.55 | dusk | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:57.55 | dusk | E: Broken packages |
| 19:58.06 | abrotman | dusk: /join #flood |
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| 19:58.40 | jelly | stew: I have not seen noticeable difference between mplay-586 and mplayer-k6 on an Athlon 2500+ |
| 19:58.54 | stew | dusk: you'll have to backport it then, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 19:59.07 | stew | jelly: that might be, but he shouldn't be using -386 |
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| 19:59.18 | jelly | stew: I concur. |
| 19:59.19 | robin_sz | sooooo ... |
| 19:59.28 | dusk | [#debian] |
| 19:59.31 | Jmax | how do i force install a package that's "unstable" on "stable"? |
| 19:59.32 | dusk | oops |
| 19:59.48 | robin_sz | I have a laptop with doze, redhat and a spare partition .. currently with a Lilo boot manager ... |
| 19:59.50 | abrotman | !tell Jmax about simple sid backport |
| 19:59.57 | Jmax | thx |
| 20:00.02 | robin_sz | should I panic about installing debain to the spare partition? |
| 20:00.11 | johey | My debian based router just accidently powered down, and after having it booted up, it does not work as a firewall anymore. I have configured it using webmin-shorewall and it worked perfectly fine before the shutdown. I thought I did reset it after the configuration to ensure it still works, but I'm not shore. I have tried to startup all services again, but still no luck. What can be wrong? |
| 20:00.18 | Jmax | abrotman: are you sure that's right? |
| 20:00.39 | abrotman | Jmax: ask for a second opinion . i won't be offended |
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| 20:00.58 | robin_sz | johey: well, your first mistake was using webmin ... |
| 20:00.59 | streuner | Jmax: _OR_ /msg dpkg backport |
| 20:01.12 | Jmax | abrotman: i want to install http://packages.debian.org/unstable/web/turck-mmcache on stable... that doesn't look right to me |
| 20:01.16 | abrotman | stew: marillat's etch is broken > |
| 20:01.16 | abrotman | ? |
| 20:01.21 | streuner | Jmax: s/_OR_/_AND_/ |
| 20:01.21 | johey | robin_sz: It sure worked very well. |
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| 20:01.30 | Jmax | k thx |
| 20:01.36 | abrotman | dusk: you still here ? |
| 20:01.38 | phaedrus44 | hi hii' |
| 20:01.46 | robin_sz | johey: well, does it work when you reboot? |
| 20:01.49 | abrotman | phaedrus44: can you send me robster ? |
| 20:01.55 | phaedrus44 | how can i uninstall a program in debian? |
| 20:01.57 | dusk | abrotman: yes I am |
| 20:01.59 | phaedrus44 | what is ropbster? |
| 20:02.06 | abrotman | dusk: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 20:02.08 | johey | robin_sz: It should, but I must probably tell it to. |
| 20:02.11 | abrotman | phaedrus44: lobster :) |
| 20:02.15 | phaedrus44 | ahh |
| 20:02.18 | phaedrus44 | hehe |
| 20:02.21 | stew | abrotman: yeah, its built against an older libjack which has just been replaced in etch |
| 20:02.24 | dusk | abrotman: err, what will that do? |
| 20:02.31 | dusk | abrotman: sounds dangerous |
| 20:02.34 | abrotman | stew: ah ok |
| 20:02.42 | jelly | Jmax: You don't want turck-mmcache anyway, it had not been updated in a long while. There's an effort called eAccelerator that's being maintained. |
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| 20:03.00 | abrotman | dusk: you can certainly abort .. but i'd be interseted to know how many it wants to upgrade |
| 20:03.20 | dusk | abrotman: that wont install anything.. or upgrade me to sid, will it? |
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| 20:03.23 | Jmax | jelly: thanks, is it in aptitude? |
| 20:03.31 | johey | robin_sz: If I have understood correctly, all it does is editing the configuration files and starts the services. Things that need to be done manually otherwise. |
| 20:03.33 | abrotman | dusk: it will ask you to confirm first .. so try it |
| 20:03.45 | dusk | abrotman: also, I just added a sid src line to sources.list, so one sec while I comment it out |
| 20:04.00 | jelly | Jmax: Unfortunately not, I'm talking about upstream. |
| 20:04.18 | dusk | 1 upgraded, 6 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 20:04.29 | Jmax | jelly: thank you very much |
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| 20:04.46 | abrotman | dusk: that's it ? |
| 20:04.54 | dusk | abrotman: yes |
| 20:05.01 | Jmax | jelly: what do you think of http://www.php-accelerator.co.uk/download.php ? |
| 20:05.04 | stew | dusk: add a deb-src line for marillat's sid repository, apt-get upgrade; apt-get build-dep mplayer-k6 ; apt-get -b source mplayer-k6 |
| 20:05.22 | abrotman | dusk: dpkg -l libstdc++6 |
| 20:05.31 | jelly | Jmax: As for turck-mmcache package, it's old enough that you could try downloading the deb and installing with dpkg. |
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| 20:05.47 | phaedrus44 | how do i uninstall a program in debian? |
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| 20:05.54 | Jmax | jelly: i'd rather something more efficent and still maintained |
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| 20:06.04 | Jmax | phaedrus44: apt-get remove package |
| 20:06.07 | nvz | phaedrus44: how did you install it? |
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| 20:06.30 | dusk | abrotman: flood |
| 20:06.35 | phaedrus44 | it id driverloader |
| 20:06.44 | phaedrus44 | and it was installed using an installer |
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| 20:06.50 | abrotman | dusk: apt-get install libstdc++6 |
| 20:06.52 | jelly | Jmax: this php-accelerator looks like it's not been updated in a while either. |
| 20:06.52 | phaedrus44 | and it does not show up in synaptic |
| 20:07.00 | Jmax | jelly: true, thanks |
| 20:07.04 | Dodger | bbrazil: hi again! :-) I'm still not having any luck getting my system to boot :-( Currently I'm able to mount the filesystem using an old version of debian (2.2. kernel), but I can't with a newer verion that I downloaded... Is there a chance that I've messed up the partitions in a way that would work with an older version of the kernel (this seems very odd to me) |
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| 20:07.23 | abrotman | oh .. god damn it .. he's trying to install the sid version of mplayer .. but doesn't have the right libstdc++6 |
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| 20:07.31 | dvs | 2.2? |
| 20:07.35 | abrotman | dusk: do what stew said |
| 20:07.41 | abrotman | stew: you're the man .. you get three beers! |
| 20:07.44 | Gepeto | abrotman: thank you very much I purged php-* including cli and it works now |
| 20:07.46 | Gepeto | thanks al ot |
| 20:07.49 | Dodger | 2.2.12 |
| 20:07.52 | stew | awesome |
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| 20:07.54 | valdyn_ | Dodger: did you cat /proc/partitions on that not-working debian install disk? |
| 20:07.55 | dusk | stew: I did what you said, but it hangs here |
| 20:07.57 | abrotman | Gepeto: yay |
| 20:08.00 | dvs | Dodger: I'd get sarge first |
| 20:08.04 | dusk | stew: iablo:/usr# apt-get build-dep mplayer-k6 |
| 20:08.05 | avu | I was just trying to build apache. I downloaded the sources with 'apt-get source apache', did 'apt-get build-dep apache' and 'apt-get build-dep apache-ssl', then did a 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' and got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/upKUUX36.html any hints on how to fix this? |
| 20:08.14 | dusk | stew: E: Unable to find a source package for mplayer |
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| 20:08.20 | nvz | phaedrus44: non-debian binary packages wont show up in synaptic. and removal of them is off-topic. if its binary, just rm it. or run the setup program again with the uninstall commanf |
| 20:08.31 | phaedrus44 | i did a search for everything that said driverloader and deleted all of it |
| 20:08.33 | stew | dusk: did you add a deb-src line for marillat? |
| 20:08.35 | phaedrus44 | will that work? |
| 20:08.39 | stew | dusk: and run apt-get update? |
| 20:08.40 | dusk | stew: yes I did :) |
| 20:08.49 | nezzari | What ISO is needed to install 32 bit debian on an athlon 64? i386? |
| 20:08.52 | phaedrus44 | ok cool |
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| 20:08.53 | phaedrus44 | thanks brbr |
| 20:08.57 | johey | Which /proc file is it that shoule be 1 to enable the gateway? |
| 20:08.59 | valdyn_ | nezzari: yes |
| 20:09.06 | nezzari | valdyn_: thanks |
| 20:09.22 | Dodger | valdyn_: 3 0 8257032 hda / 3 1 1405656 hda1 / 3 2 499968 hda2 / 3 3 1964088 hda3 / 22 0 1073741823 hdc / 22 64 1073741823 hdd |
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| 20:09.50 | jelly | johey: /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward ? |
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| 20:10.06 | Dodger | dvs: I have sarge, but can't boot with it (I have an previous version of debian that I can't boot since I played with my partitions) |
| 20:10.06 | valdyn_ | Dodger: therefore the partitions are obviously there.. |
| 20:10.07 | stew | dusk: try just "mplayer" then |
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| 20:10.19 | johey | jelly: thanks! |
| 20:10.44 | Dodger | valdyn_: yes, definitely there... I can mount them and browse them, I just can't get the system to boot with anything other then a 2.2 rescue cd |
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| 20:10.58 | dusk | stew: same error :( |
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| 20:11.32 | abrotman | maybe stew stopped consuming beer ... |
| 20:11.32 | valdyn_ | Dodger: ...because newer debians do not offer an explicit rescue mode |
| 20:11.32 | abrotman | oh .. i missed it |
| 20:11.32 | stew | dusk: do you get errors when you do the apt-get update? becuase i'm looking at the Sources file on his repository now its mplayer is in there |
| 20:11.32 | jelly | johey: you can put that in /etc/sysctl.conf so it will be automatically enabled at boot. |
| 20:11.33 | johey | Ahhh, that's it! What is the recommended way of setting /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 on bootup? |
| 20:11.35 | dvs | abrotman: you lay off the beer. ;-) |
| 20:11.36 | Dodger | valdyn_: ahh... that makes sense... |
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| 20:11.46 | Dodger | valdyn_: how should I try to boot with a newer kernel? |
| 20:11.49 | johey | I guess I just got the answer of jelly =) |
| 20:11.51 | dusk | stew: no errors at all, when I apt-cache search I see mplayer-k6 as well |
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| 20:12.07 | mrwoody | does anyone know how to make an udf cd be readable with iso9660 hardware? |
| 20:12.10 | valdyn_ | Dodger: mount your installation , chroot to it, install grub from the chroot |
| 20:12.32 | stew | dusk: paste your sources.list to #flood or a pastebin (don't paste here!) |
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| 20:12.38 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: what is iso9660 hardware? |
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| 20:12.51 | TNKS | Hi everyone. I have a post at http://pastebin.ca/29638 that describes a problem I'm having with pinning. It's a really simple setup, and I imagine someone should quickly be able to explain what I'm assuming that's incorrect. |
| 20:12.51 | dusk | stew: #flood |
| 20:12.53 | blondie | a CD-ROM drive? |
| 20:13.06 | jelly | a cdrom medium? ;-) |
| 20:13.07 | mrwoody | valdyn_: :-) hardware that read only common cdrw (e.g. iso9660 format) |
| 20:13.10 | MADE | ALGUEM AI DO BRASIL? |
| 20:13.19 | bbrazil | !br |
| 20:13.20 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:13.25 | mrwoody | valdyn_: like an mp3 cd reader |
| 20:13.28 | Dodger | valdyn_: its mounted right now, so that's no problem... I'm not sure how to chroot, although I've tried (and failed) to install grub from it... the machine is quite old (which is a problem if I'm trying to boot of a partition other then the first I think) |
| 20:13.30 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: your hardware has nothing to do with the file system |
| 20:13.37 | blondie | !pt |
| 20:13.37 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:13.40 | blondie | hmm |
| 20:13.44 | valdyn_ | Dodger: 'chroot /mount/point |
| 20:13.46 | valdyn_ | Dodger: 'chroot /mount/point' |
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| 20:13.49 | tss_ | WTF?! I'm reading /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz, it says I normally need to patch the kernel for use with Debian? initrd?! I asked `dpkg' here about initrd, but it says something incomprehensible. |
| 20:13.50 | MADE | #DEBIAN-BR |
| 20:13.54 | mrwoody | valdyn_: well ok... then why it cannot read any udf cd but it can read iso9660 cd |
| 20:13.56 | MADE | O KI É ISSO? |
| 20:14.10 | MADE | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:14.12 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: mount -t udf /dev/whatever /some/mountpoint |
| 20:14.18 | blondie | mrwoody: maybe you're mounting it wrongly :P |
| 20:14.27 | arturaz | Reikia 266 mhz DDR atminties, variantai 1x512Mb arba 2x256Mb. Veiksmas Kaune. |
| 20:14.27 | dusk | stew: thanks :) now lemme figure out what this NEW error means |
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| 20:14.58 | mrwoody | valdyn_: blondie sorry I was not clear. I can mount them on my linux box. But now I want to use them in my auto cd reader |
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| 20:15.01 | Dodger | valdyn_: just realized I don't have grub on it... I don't have network access from it either right now... the system used to be a win2k / debian dual boot and I screwed it up when I was trying to remove win2k |
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| 20:15.10 | blondie | auto cd reader? |
| 20:15.12 | blondie | what's that? |
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| 20:15.15 | Jmax | jelly: do you use eAccelerator? this warning is rather harsh http://opensource.creativ-it.net/ |
| 20:15.16 | stew | tss_: that is old, since 2.6.8 or so the initrd patch is now in the mainline kernel |
| 20:15.17 | mrwoody | blondie: car cd reader |
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| 20:15.25 | blondie | a CD player? |
| 20:15.25 | valdyn_ | Dodger: which bootmanager did you use that? |
| 20:15.32 | Dodger | valdyn_: lilo... |
| 20:15.33 | mrwoody | blondie: yes... |
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| 20:15.43 | mrwoody | blondie: any advice? |
| 20:15.44 | valdyn_ | Dodger: so replace grub with lilo in my above instructions |
| 20:15.45 | blondie | well evidently its software does not support UDF |
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| 20:15.52 | Dodger | valdyn_: I just tried running it, and it gave me normal output, but its done that before and not worked... |
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| 20:15.55 | blondie | yes, burn it to ISO or a plain audio CD |
| 20:16.00 | Dodger | valdyn_: ok, will try rebooting... |
| 20:16.00 | blondie | s/to/as/ |
| 20:16.17 | mrwoody | blondie: that is something I understood. My question is ... can I convert it? or do I need to reformat everything |
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| 20:16.35 | blondie | no you can't convert it |
| 20:16.41 | blondie | you'll need to start again |
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| 20:16.45 | Blackhold | hello I'm using a mac with debian and mac os x, I don't know why but my debian don't apear in booting the computer, I've started my computer with a ubuntu cd live, I've mounted the debian partition and I've founded the yaboot.conf, and it don't appear |
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| 20:16.58 | mrwoody | blondie: "burn it to ISO or a plain audio CD" doesn't help too much. My cd player can read mp3. And I would like to add some once in a while |
| 20:17.05 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: i dont know your auto cd reader, what does that device support? |
| 20:17.09 | stew | Blackhold: ask #debianppc |
| 20:17.14 | blondie | then put the MP3s on an ISO disc |
| 20:17.16 | Blackhold | ok tnks |
| 20:17.18 | jelly | Jmax: well I installed it on a students' machine and it works. However the users don't complain much over anything, so I can't really tell if there were any smaller problems. |
| 20:17.25 | avu | I have a problem building apache on sarge. I downloaded the sources with 'apt-get source apache', did 'apt-get build-dep apache' and 'apt-get build-dep apache-ssl', then did a 'dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc' and got this error: http://rafb.net/paste/results/upKUUX36.html any hints on how to fix this? Should I report this as a bug? |
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| 20:17.38 | Thanatermesis | any channel of GTK programation ? |
| 20:17.39 | Jmax | jelly: hm okay |
| 20:17.42 | mrwoody | blondie: ? how to add new files on an ISO disc. Can I do that? |
| 20:17.48 | tss_ | DO I have to 'make-kpkg clean' every time I change .config ? |
| 20:17.51 | mrwoody | blondie: I would like to have something equivalent to udf |
| 20:18.03 | dusk | stew: got more flood for you ;p |
| 20:18.04 | blondie | no you can't |
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| 20:18.12 | mrwoody | valdyn_: normal cdrw |
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| 20:18.18 | jelly | Jmax: and it's a php4 sparc/solaris machine. No warrary, YMMV, dispose after use, batteries not included, etc. |
| 20:18.29 | Jmax | haha okay |
| 20:18.32 | Jmax | thx |
| 20:18.35 | blondie | mrwoody: depends on what the cd player's software supports. |
| 20:18.36 | mrwoody | blondie: so everytime that I need to change something, I need to refomat everything? |
| 20:18.43 | dvs | Closed course. Professional driver/ |
| 20:18.47 | mrwoody | blondie: well it supports cdrw |
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| 20:18.54 | mrwoody | blondie: but not udf |
| 20:18.56 | blondie | I don't mean the media |
| 20:18.58 | Pebcak | heh how did i end up with pebcak on freenode? |
| 20:18.58 | blondie | the FS |
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| 20:19.06 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: cdrw is a HARDWARE , a filesystem is SOFTWARE, if your car thing supports cdrw that said abolutely nothing about the filesystes it supports |
| 20:19.17 | blondie | mrwoody: probably doesn't like multisessions |
| 20:19.35 | mrwoody | valdyn_: I would like to find that out. So far it only works with iso stuff... |
| 20:19.37 | Dodger | valdyn_: I got error "L 01" with lilo, which I had before and wasn't able to make heads or tails of (http://learnlinux.tsf.org.za/courses/build/sys-admin/apas02.html claims its an "internal error") |
| 20:19.38 | jelly | valdyn_: if it supports mp3s, it probably does iso9960 though. |
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| 20:20.06 | mrwoody | blondie: valdyn_: does that mean that I cannot use udf for that purpose? |
| 20:20.10 | valdyn_ | jelly: yea. |
| 20:20.14 | yayo | searching for lalito |
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| 20:20.16 | blondie | mrwoody: uhuh |
| 20:20.17 | yayo | anyone? |
| 20:20.25 | yayo | lalito? |
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| 20:20.31 | yayo | from linux-saltillo |
| 20:20.32 | mrwoody | blondie: how about using iso? how can I add new stuff to an ISO cdrw? |
| 20:20.37 | jelly | dpkg, tell me about lalito |
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| 20:20.45 | blondie | mrwoody: you can't |
| 20:20.53 | jelly | dpkg doesn't know anything either |
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| 20:20.56 | mrwoody | blondie: strange... I thought it was possible |
| 20:20.58 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: i suspect that your card drive neither supports udf nor unfinalised disks, so there's no way you can add data to a disk that is readable by your car drive |
| 20:20.58 | yayo | hahaha, are you lalito |
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| 20:21.02 | yayo | jelly? |
| 20:21.04 | valdyn_ | s/card/car/ |
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| 20:21.11 | blondie | mrwoody: only using propietary software |
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| 20:21.18 | yayo | do you meet him? |
| 20:21.18 | jelly | yayo: I'm not. At least I think so... |
| 20:21.23 | mrwoody | valdyn_: then a multisession cd is never iso? |
| 20:21.26 | mrwoody | blondie: what is that? |
| 20:21.27 | yayo | hahah ok |
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| 20:21.36 | blondie | packet writing stuff |
| 20:21.36 | yayo | but is your friend? |
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| 20:21.41 | blondie | and it probably won't work on the cd player |
| 20:21.47 | yayo | or something like that |
| 20:21.49 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: i didnt say that.. |
| 20:21.51 | jelly | yayo: sorry, never heard of the guy/girl/dog |
| 20:21.55 | blondie | why don't you get more than one disc... |
| 20:21.56 | yayo | :-) |
| 20:21.58 | yayo | ok |
| 20:22.03 | yayo | thank's anyway |
| 20:22.09 | mrwoody | valdyn_: then? |
| 20:22.16 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: ..and i dont know that, however before a disk is finalised your card thing probably cant deal with it, and after its finalised you cannot add data |
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| 20:22.37 | mrwoody | valdyn_: I see. ok. never mind. Thanks for your help |
| 20:22.50 | yayo | ok, i'm gonna eat now |
| 20:22.53 | yayo | see ya later |
| 20:22.55 | ziupiu | avu, try installing libssl-dev |
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| 20:23.07 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: since it supports cdrw appearantly, i dont see the problem really |
| 20:23.17 | daemonic | hmm.. can't apt-get install mplayer? wtf? |
| 20:23.23 | avu | ziupiu: libssl-dev is already the newest version. |
| 20:23.37 | streuner | daemonic: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 20:23.39 | mrwoody | valdyn_: well the problem is that I have tried to record something with udf, but it couldn't read it |
| 20:23.41 | mrwoody | valdyn_: |
| 20:23.50 | mrwoody | valdyn_: is there something else that you would suggest to try |
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| 20:24.09 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: use iso9660 and just overwrite the whole disk when you want to add something |
| 20:24.12 | avu | ziupiu: (that's what "apt-get install libssl-dev" says) |
| 20:24.24 | mrwoody | valdyn_: that would work, but it is much slower |
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| 20:24.40 | MADE | hi |
| 20:24.40 | valdyn_ | mrwoody: yep |
| 20:24.53 | MADE | I live in Brazil |
| 20:24.55 | Dodger | valdyn_: when I do an "fdisk /dev/hda" I get warnings that the 2nd and 3rd partitions don't end on cylinder boundary... not sure if that's relevant to my problems... |
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| 20:25.18 | kyle__ | Greetings. I'm having trouble installing debian: partman doesn't see my already created partitions on my disk, so it will only let me reformat the drive. However, going to the console and running fdisk (and even just looking in the dev directory) sees all the partitions. How do I get around this? I'm using the latest 3.0.whatever ISO to install (also happens with boot floppies) |
| 20:25.19 | ziupiu | avu, ok, i can't help you, but what is the problem with binary distribution (and mod_ssl)? |
| 20:25.29 | MADE | alguem do brazil awe? |
| 20:25.39 | stew | !br |
| 20:25.39 | avu | ziupiu: I need a different suexec docroot |
| 20:25.40 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:25.41 | ziupiu | !br |
| 20:25.48 | MADE | yes |
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| 20:26.05 | dvs | kyle__: 3.1 is the latest |
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| 20:26.17 | MADE | ziupiu...live you in brazil? |
| 20:26.18 | avu | ziupiu: funny thing is, I do not need apache-ssl, I just can't figure out how to just build the apache package. |
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| 20:26.34 | kyle__ | dvhm...well, that's what I've got then, sorry |
| 20:26.41 | ziupiu | MADE, no, italy |
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| 20:27.05 | avu | ziupiu: the apache source package builds apache, apache-ssl and apache-perl :/ |
| 20:27.52 | drgreen_ | Im trying to compile and load a kernel module, it compiles fine, but when I try to load it i get a mild magic error, when modprobe'd with -f I get unknown symbols for "__per_cpu_offset" and "del_timer_sync" I think the kernel headers I have are compiled for SMP |
| 20:28.07 | jelly | avu: edit debian/rules and/or debian/control and remove references to apache-ssl and apache-perl? |
| 20:28.07 | drgreen_ | and my kernel isnt SMP |
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| 20:29.05 | avu | jelly: I tried understanding debian/rules but it seems to compilicated for me I'm afraid. there's no seperated target for apache-ssl. |
| 20:29.26 | dvs | kyle__: If you created the partitions yourself, what type did you give them? |
| 20:29.41 | jelly | avu: hm, are you running stable or something else? |
| 20:29.48 | drgreen_ | version magic "2.6.8-2 SMP preempt PENTIUM4 gcc-3.3" should be "2.6.8-2-686 preempt 686 gcc-3.3" |
| 20:29.49 | nvz | whoo. I bet you could get a lot more drunk if you drank through your nose :P |
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| 20:30.01 | avu | jelly: sarge (so, yes, stable) |
| 20:30.02 | kyle__ | dvs: a few linux, a linux swap, adn tnd then one is NTFS and the other is dell utility |
| 20:30.08 | nvz | heh j/k |
| 20:30.21 | kyle__ | er, "adn tnd" should be "and" |
| 20:30.30 | dusk | stew: i got it!!!! |
| 20:30.34 | dusk | abrotman: I got it!!! |
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| 20:30.46 | dvs | dusk: Don't give it to me. ;-) |
| 20:30.46 | drgreen_ | nvz: you can get drunk via an alcohol enema too, but thats nasty |
| 20:30.50 | abrotman | dusk: yay |
| 20:31.06 | stew | dusk: cool, you may wanna email marillat and make sure he knows his etch packages are out of date |
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| 20:31.13 | nvz | drgreen_: I took a drink and it splashed up and got a drop in my nose and it felt all fizzy |
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| 20:31.33 | dusk | stew: i had to change all my stuff to sid and it downloaded flawless, then just changed it back |
| 20:31.50 | jelly | avu: eh, i see, it pretty ugly. |
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| 20:32.23 | dusk | jesus what a waste of 3 hours |
| 20:32.39 | jelly | avu: i would try removing from $(STAMP_DIR)/build-stamp: line first. |
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| 20:32.50 | avu | jelly: fixing this compile error would be ok, too. I mean, it *must* be possible to build this source package, right? |
| 20:32.51 | jelly | avu: see how far it gets then. |
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| 20:33.27 | jelly | avu: yes. it's a grave error if it can't build from source, and you have only sarge installed. |
| 20:33.29 | Dodger | I think I've managed to mess up my MBR using GNU parted. I've tried getting it working again with lilo and grub, and neither has worked. Is it possible I've done something that will require more then one of these to fix? |
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| 20:34.35 | avu | jelly: googling suggests this constant which can't be found should be part of openssl, which I have installed... |
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| 20:34.44 | jelly | avu: I suppose it could be that secuity updates for ssl have somehow broken building of ssl apps. |
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| 20:34.51 | tss_ | Is 'throttling' decreasing or increasing CPU power? |
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| 20:35.04 | shad0w1e | Is there any advantage with using a 686 kernel over a 386 one? what is it? |
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| 20:35.19 | Elly | tss_: decreasing MHz |
| 20:35.20 | ziupiu | shad0w1e, performance |
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| 20:35.31 | robin_sz | tss_: think about that one for a moment ... |
| 20:35.36 | jelly | avu: please do dpkg -l \*ssl\* |
| 20:35.38 | shad0w1e | ziupiu, I'm using a PIII. Does 686 kernel suit me best? |
| 20:35.39 | dvs | shad0w1e: Good performance gain for 686 |
| 20:35.40 | tss_ | Elly: how is it different from cpu-freq ? |
| 20:35.51 | Elly | tss_: in what context? |
| 20:36.11 | ziupiu | shad0w1e, better, not best |
| 20:36.35 | kyle__ | Anybody have any ideas why partman doesn't see partitions that fdisk can see? Or any way to manually set up partitioning in the installer? |
| 20:36.36 | shad0wcat | bah |
| 20:36.41 | shad0w1e | I'm thinking of removing the 386 kernel. Will the system boot if I move the hard drive over into, say a 486 system? |
| 20:36.42 | shad0wcat | shad0w1e you nick copier |
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| 20:36.46 | jelly | avu: you should have libssl-dev, libssl0.9.7, maybe openssl, all version 0.9.7e-3sarge1 |
| 20:36.56 | shad0w1e | Shadowcat, haha, but I've had this for a coupla years |
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| 20:37.10 | tss_ | Elly: I don't have cpu-freq enabled in the kernel (or module loaded), but /proc/acpi/processor/CPU/throttling exists |
| 20:37.13 | shad0wcat | shad0w1e: lies :P |
| 20:37.15 | shad0wcat | all lies |
| 20:37.18 | shad0w1e | lol |
| 20:37.23 | Elly | man it? |
| 20:37.30 | shad0w1e | not a bad idea.. |
| 20:37.39 | tss_ | How can I query the CPU and ask its current frequency? I think /proc/cpuinfo only shows nominal frequency |
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| 20:37.48 | shad0w1e | well what's the *best* kernel to use for a P3 - 500 ? |
| 20:37.49 | witless | what scripts control the detection and mounting of usb storage on the gnome desktop? |
| 20:38.04 | shad0wcat | uhh |
| 20:38.09 | dvs | shad0w1e: Roll your own. |
| 20:38.15 | shad0w1e | dvs, besides that |
| 20:38.16 | nvz | !wayttd witless |
| 20:38.16 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, witless? |
| 20:38.18 | shad0wcat | automounting operates below the *dm layer |
| 20:38.19 | Elly | tss_: /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 20:38.21 | dvs | shad0w1e: 686 then |
| 20:38.27 | shad0w1e | well thank you! |
| 20:38.30 | Ace | can someone help with setting up X.... it is saying i do not have a display setup and there are displays configed in the CF86Config-4 file |
| 20:38.31 | stew | witless: thats the gnome-volume-manager package |
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| 20:38.33 | Aerk | shad0wcat: The one you compile. |
| 20:38.39 | dvs | shad0w1e: no prob |
| 20:38.40 | shad0w1e | Aerk, heh |
| 20:38.45 | shad0wcat | Aerk: I ain't the one asking |
| 20:38.49 | shad0wcat | damnit |
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| 20:38.50 | shad0wcat | this is gonna confuse a lot of people |
| 20:38.58 | avu | jelly: yes, I have them all three, all three se same version (0.9.7e-3sarge1) |
| 20:39.02 | shad0w1e | don't worry I got to know what I needed, I'm out |
| 20:39.04 | tss_ | Elly: but is it supposed to change dynamically when GHz change? |
| 20:39.05 | shad0w1e | thanks people! |
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| 20:39.14 | Blackhold | please |
| 20:39.16 | witless | stew: thanks |
| 20:39.18 | Elly | tss_: I think it does, yes |
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| 20:39.19 | dvs | shad0w1e: impostor |
| 20:39.20 | Elly | cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 'MHz' | awk '{ print $4 }' |
| 20:39.21 | dvs | ;-) |
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| 20:39.24 | Blackhold | could someone help me about yaboot? |
| 20:39.32 | jelly | avu: I've just started dpkg-buildpackage and see if it breaks here too. ;-) |
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| 20:40.04 | avu | jelly: ok, thanks |
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| 20:40.15 | witless | nvz: usb storage gets mounted on the first available X (gnome) session - this is a problem because my wife and i are usually logged in simultaneously on the same workstation in different X sessions |
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| 20:40.47 | nvz | witless: where is it mounting to? is it in fstab? |
| 20:40.48 | gr8ron | udev |
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| 20:41.00 | lfs | Should I force removal of all the woody packages? |
| 20:41.06 | Blinder | hi |
| 20:41.27 | dvs | Ifs: If you still use them, no. |
| 20:41.37 | witless | nvz: no. it gets mounted and appears on the gnome desktop automagically - it's just always showing up on the first desktop session regardless of which session is actively in use |
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| 20:41.42 | jelly | avu: can you give me the paster url again? |
| 20:41.51 | Blinder | did someone install the latest eclipse (3.1.1-5) package in unstable and got it running? It gives an error for me Could not load from shared install ... anyone? |
| 20:41.57 | nvz | witless: no idea. |
| 20:41.58 | avu | jelly: http://rafb.net/paste/results/upKUUX36.html |
| 20:42.02 | witless | nvz: thanks |
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| 20:42.14 | shad0wcat | Blinder: there's a reason I don't use the eclipse package |
| 20:42.18 | abrotman | Blinder: what's the real error ? |
| 20:42.33 | Blinder | ah, the real error is more that it doesn't find an application id now :( |
| 20:42.42 | Blinder | sorry, copied the wrong error msg |
| 20:42.44 | lfs | So leaving stable in sources.list and not doing dist-upgrade is really bad idea? |
| 20:42.55 | tss_ | Elly: I know about cpuinfo (I mentioned it when I asked the question in fact), I'm just not sure if it's changed dynamically |
| 20:42.58 | shad0wcat | lfs: if you're asking that |
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| 20:43.06 | Elly | tss_: I think it is |
| 20:43.06 | shad0wcat | you shouldn't be leaving stable |
| 20:43.09 | Elly | all of /proc is dynamic |
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| 20:43.20 | lfs | I have sarge in sources.list now. |
| 20:43.30 | lfs | But I still have some woody packages |
| 20:43.32 | dvs | Ifs: If you have stable in sources.list, you have the latest release. |
| 20:43.49 | lfs | How did my Debian get all screwed up? |
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| 20:43.55 | dvs | Ifs: it won't make a difference now. |
| 20:44.05 | lfs | What about next update? |
| 20:44.27 | lfs | SHould I force removal of all the woody packages? |
| 20:44.37 | dvs | Ifs: If you change to "stable" , you're still using sarge. |
| 20:44.51 | lfs | But I still have Woody packages. |
| 20:44.51 | shad0wcat | Sarge has been stable for ages |
| 20:44.57 | jelly | avu: ho-hum, it worked here. |
| 20:44.59 | shad0wcat | lfs: we fucking heard you the first 10 times |
| 20:45.03 | shad0wcat | stop repeating |
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| 20:45.07 | azeem | Blinder: hi |
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| 20:45.10 | dvs | Ifs: Like I said before, if you still use the obsolete packages, leave them in. |
| 20:45.20 | lfs | And my desktop is realy screwed up. |
| 20:45.22 | avu | jelly: hum. |
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| 20:45.30 | shad0wcat | lfs: then reinstall with a Sarge cd |
| 20:45.32 | shad0wcat | next! |
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| 20:45.43 | Gyuszk | ree |
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| 20:46.17 | lfs | How to force reconfiguration of the desktop? |
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| 20:46.29 | dvs | !drxx Ifs |
| 20:46.30 | dpkg | Ifs: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:46.34 | sfullenwider | Is there an alternative to cdrecord to burn dvds? |
| 20:46.39 | jzono1 | sfullenwider, yeah |
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| 20:47.00 | jzono1 | sfullenwider, nerolinux, and the various dvd cdrdao forks for dvd support |
| 20:47.05 | lfs | How do you ask about xmd5? |
| 20:47.13 | zoombie | quien habla español aqui |
| 20:47.16 | dvs | Ifs: /msg dpkg xmd5 |
| 20:47.18 | SlayerXP | !es |
| 20:47.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:47.22 | avu | jelly: does "find /usr/lib -name \*h | xargs grep X509_V_FLAG_CRL_CHECK" yield any results on your system? |
| 20:47.25 | nvz | dpkg, tell lfs about xmd5 |
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| 20:47.57 | zoombie | hola soy nuevo en linux necesito saber como bajr un msn para linuxç |
| 20:48.03 | Elly | !sp |
| 20:48.04 | dpkg | hmm... sp is troubled: you stats pimp! |
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| 20:48.07 | Elly | drat |
| 20:48.09 | Elly | !spanish |
| 20:48.09 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:48.09 | lfs | Is there a danger to losing my manual changes. |
| 20:48.14 | jelly | avu: if you mean /usr/include, yes it does. |
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| 20:48.26 | jelly | avu: /usr/include/openssl/x509_vfy.h |
| 20:48.27 | lfs | WHen I first installed the video wasnt supported so well. |
| 20:48.28 | javier | zoombie, que distribucion linux usas? |
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| 20:49.06 | avu | jelly: oh, yes |
| 20:49.09 | avu | jelly: hm |
| 20:49.14 | avu | jelly: same here.. |
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| 20:50.02 | jelly | avu: do you have LD_LIBRARY in environment or somthing like that? |
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| 20:50.22 | dvs | LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
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| 20:50.27 | dvs | Opps sorry |
| 20:50.29 | lfs | I have problem with that. I will paste to flood |
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| 20:51.02 | avu | jelly: set | grep LD only yields OLDPWD |
| 20:51.24 | jelly | dvs: we're trying to find out why apache FTBFS on his sarge installation. |
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| 20:52.45 | jelly | avu: strange. I'd try to run make -f debian/rules clean in the source dir, maybe ot goes away. ;-) |
| 20:52.45 | Aerk | Damned it. |
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| 20:53.15 | tss_ | How can I query HD temperature ? |
| 20:53.16 | Aerk | The laptop support Linux badly, with random hangs. :( |
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| 20:53.19 | jair | hello guys. |
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| 20:53.41 | jelly | tss_: using hddtemp or smartctl (smartmontools package) |
| 20:53.43 | avu | jelly: ok, did that, running dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc again now |
| 20:53.44 | lfs | diff: /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum: No such file or directory |
| 20:53.50 | Aerk | I'll just install Windows 2000 and run Debian in vmware on my laptop. :( |
| 20:53.50 | lfs | What does that mean? |
| 20:54.00 | jair | guys, anyone here have experience with dirvish??? |
| 20:54.06 | Jacobo221 | is there any good ftp gui client appart from gftp? (gftp seems too buggy to me) |
| 20:54.11 | jelly | jair: some. |
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| 20:54.31 | twb` | I want to throw out my NIS daemon and switch to LDAP. I've never used LDAP before. Anyone know a good HOWTO-type document for that? |
| 20:54.34 | doleyb | Jacobo221: there is konqueror |
| 20:54.41 | jair | jelly, I have the package installed in my debian machine |
| 20:54.42 | Aerk | Jacobo221: The ftp command is great. |
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| 20:54.55 | Jacobo221 | doleyb: heh, ftp only please ;) |
| 20:55.07 | jair | jelly, but I can figure out how to start it make the automated backups and also check if the test is good?? |
| 20:55.12 | Jacobo221 | Aerk: lacks a gui |
| 20:55.15 | psyk0 | Hello |
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| 20:55.30 | lfs | Can I paste two lines here? |
| 20:55.32 | thc | lfs: how did you install X |
| 20:55.33 | Aerk | Jacobo221: You say that like it's a bad thing. |
| 20:55.43 | lfs | I dont remember anymore. |
| 20:55.45 | bucky | lfs which version of debian are you using? |
| 20:55.57 | lfs | I have no idea anymore. |
| 20:56.01 | jelly | jair: did you setup the "bank" and "vaults"? |
| 20:56.05 | twb` | lfs: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:56.06 | lfs | Started with potato. |
| 20:56.06 | bucky | it's not sarge |
| 20:56.08 | thc | lfs: well, that means there is no file to compare your running XF86Config-4 file to (which is bad) |
| 20:56.13 | Jacobo221 | Aerk: not at all. i use ftp command line most of the time, but don't ask my sister to use it ;P |
| 20:56.25 | Aerk | Jacobo221: Ah, I see. |
| 20:56.28 | psyk0 | I have a debian server in full english, but I want to have some files with special french/german accents like ? or ?, where I can modify my filesystem parameters? |
| 20:56.31 | jair | jelly, I am checking again what i did |
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| 20:56.59 | twb` | psyk0: it should Just Work. |
| 20:57.18 | jair | jelly, dirvish-cronjob master.conf |
| 20:57.18 | jair | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.30 | psyk0 | twb`, no, i have many problems |
| 20:57.32 | lfs | 3.1 |
| 20:57.56 | twb | psyk0: what is the value of the environment variable "LOCALE"? |
| 20:58.12 | Ace | is there a util to setup the XFree86 config file? |
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| 20:58.16 | thc | lfs: if you're on sarge, you should purge and reinstall X. something is borked. |
| 20:58.22 | thc | !tell Ace about drxx |
| 20:58.40 | BitterGeek | I'm confuzzled. I'm trying to get postfix to work but I see: |
| 20:58.53 | BitterGeek | tcp 0 0 *:ssmtp *:* LISTEN |
| 20:59.20 | BitterGeek | when I do netstat -t -a|grep LISTEN |
| 20:59.21 | psyk0 | twb, set | grep -i locale doesn't show anything |
| 20:59.22 | lfs | PLenty is broken. |
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| 20:59.25 | BitterGeek | Any ideas? |
| 20:59.28 | jelly | jair: bank is a directory where all the backup vaults will be stored. Each "vault" is a subdir of "bank", where (typically per-partition) backups and additional config files are stored. |
| 20:59.35 | bayab00m | how can i find out which keymap i have under x? |
| 20:59.42 | lfs | I'm very slowly getting it unbroken. |
| 20:59.42 | bayab00m | in X |
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| 20:59.57 | Ace | thc, dpkg did not say anything about drxx |
| 21:00.04 | thc | !drxx |
| 21:00.05 | dpkg | drxx is probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 21:00.20 | thc | Ace: /msg dpkg <factoid> |
| 21:00.23 | jair | jelly, if i have the partitions configured like this: / ----> 40GB and /swap ----512MB |
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| 21:00.41 | tss_ | jelly: thanks |
| 21:00.57 | tricaric | how can I run acrobat reader on my dual opteron x86-64 debian system? |
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| 21:01.07 | blondie | you can't |
| 21:01.14 | jair | jelly, and I want to make a backup of all my /root because I think that swap can not be backed up? |
| 21:01.20 | TNKS | all right. so I did a little playing around. It doesn't seems like using wildcards in a /etc/apt/preferences file is possible in the "package" entry as in "Package: linux-source-*" Does anyone know for sure if I'm mistaken? |
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| 21:01.28 | thingfish | so you'd just better send those useless dual opterons to my house. |
| 21:01.37 | blondie | jair: why would you want to backup your swap? |
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| 21:01.45 | jelly | jair: ok. do you have another disk, or are you trying to backup to another computer? |
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| 21:01.49 | twb | tricaric: with great difficulty. |
| 21:01.57 | lfs | I have been using Linux for quite a while and always the hardest thing to do was to get X to work. |
| 21:02.00 | bayab00m | why do i have a different keymap in X then in no-X mode? |
| 21:02.03 | twb | tricaric: use evince 0.4 instead. |
| 21:02.05 | tricaric | I've a few unresolved libs... |
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| 21:02.13 | avu | jelly: same error. But I saw an odd "-I/usr/local/include/ssl" in the gcc options. maybe it was looking for the ssl headers in the wrong place. I've added "-I/usr/include/openssl" to the CFLAGS, maybe this helps. |
| 21:02.18 | lfs | How dangerous is this command? dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:02.26 | thingfish | not at all dangerous. |
| 21:02.26 | lfs | I would hate to lose X. |
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| 21:02.36 | jair | jelly, to another computer |
| 21:02.47 | thingfish | it allows you to re-setup X, lfs. |
| 21:02.49 | tricaric | twb: thanks, this evince looks nice, I didn't know it... |
| 21:02.52 | Coweater | lfs: back up your config beforehand then |
| 21:02.52 | thc | lfs: that's the proper way to create XF86Config-4 |
| 21:03.06 | twb | tricaric: also xpdf and gv, which are faster but uglier. |
| 21:03.10 | tricaric | what about have the firefox plugins work? |
| 21:03.28 | lfs | Is it backed up when that md5sum command shows no difference? |
| 21:03.36 | thingfish | thc, please change your nick back to fbi as I am jonesing and your current nick is too painful for me. |
| 21:03.39 | nezzari | I can't seem to setup debian on my pc again... installer freezes on "Detecting hardware to find CD-ROM drive - Loading modile 'ide-disk' for 'linux ATA Disk'" |
| 21:03.42 | thingfish | :) |
| 21:03.43 | jelly | jair: dirvish is not a very good choice for that, because you'll need root access from bakup client to backup server. Is that ok with you? |
| 21:03.45 | nezzari | Little help? |
| 21:03.52 | TNKS | I seems like the package has to either be specified as "Package: *" or "Package: <package-name>". |
| 21:04.13 | lfs | bash: dpkg-reconfigure: command not found |
| 21:04.21 | thc | thingfish: sorry, i have to use this nick whenever i am about to take bong rips |
| 21:04.25 | thingfish | hehe |
| 21:04.27 | thingfish | ok |
| 21:04.28 | thc | lfs: as root |
| 21:04.28 | lfs | nevermind |
| 21:04.45 | jair | jelly, I will be doing a back up of the server and nobody else will have acess to that. |
| 21:05.04 | jair | jelly, but I guest you ask me that because it is a security compromise? |
| 21:05.08 | sfullenwider | Does anyone know of a page of dvd cdrdao forks...I must be stupid because I don't see anything dvd related at http://cdrdao.sourceforge.net/ |
| 21:05.50 | jair | sfullenwider, if you want to record dvds and cds check k3b ;) |
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| 21:06.57 | jelly | jair: Yes. If anyone gets to your backup client, they automatically have unlimited access to your backup server, because dirvish uses rsync to "push". I use rsnapshot for simple remote-backup purposes. |
| 21:07.07 | tricaric | k3b for x86-64? |
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| 21:08.17 | jair | jelly, but I have my office with lock and also I can not anybody aceess the computer is running the back up. |
| 21:08.34 | bayab00m | when i run x i cant use special characters in the xterm. but in other applications like e.g. xchat i can. how can i make xterm also special characterized? |
| 21:08.49 | jair | jelly, but what other solution I have? -----> connect a external HD, or add another internal HD? |
| 21:08.49 | blondie | use proper english characters instead |
| 21:09.02 | jelly | jair: I suppose it's no problem then. How far have you come with the HOWTO.Debian? |
| 21:09.13 | poop | bayab: Set your locale? |
| 21:09.17 | bayab00m | blondie, its not only the proper characters also e.g. the ? |
| 21:09.23 | bayab00m | i cant use that in xterm |
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| 21:09.34 | blondie | question mark? |
| 21:09.40 | poop | hah |
| 21:09.40 | bayab00m | poop, i did that via dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 21:09.53 | bayab00m | the question mark goes |
| 21:09.57 | blockd | could be the font it's using |
| 21:09.59 | bayab00m | i mean is workung |
| 21:10.07 | bayab00m | the xterm font? |
| 21:10.08 | jelly | jair: I dunno, I'm just uneasy with giving unattended automatic root access. ;-) |
| 21:10.14 | blockd | bayab00m: just a guess |
| 21:10.30 | shad0wcat | jelly: we have root access on your boy anyway |
| 21:10.32 | shad0wcat | :P |
| 21:10.36 | bayab00m | blockd, how can i change the font in xterm for testing purposes? |
| 21:10.37 | shad0wcat | box* |
| 21:10.44 | poop | bayab: What does locale tell you when you run it in the xterm? |
| 21:10.45 | jair | jelly, it is tru |
| 21:10.52 | jair | true |
| 21:10.53 | shad0wcat | bah |
| 21:10.54 | jelly | shad0wcat: No you don't. It's a girl! |
| 21:11.02 | shad0wcat | jelly: ok girl then :P |
| 21:11.04 | blockd | bayab00m: IIRC, it's -fn, but that might not be from truetype fonts, I'd have to RTFM |
| 21:11.05 | jair | jelly, what way do you use then? |
| 21:11.12 | blockd | s/from/for/ |
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| 21:11.22 | jelly | jair: I use rsnapshot, it does rsync the other way round. |
| 21:11.31 | jelly | jair: from server to client. |
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| 21:12.12 | jelly | jair: I also heard good words about "duplicity", but I haven't tried it. |
| 21:12.17 | bayab00m | poop, this is what locale tells me run from the xterm : http://rafb.net/paste/results/uAsB4S80.html |
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| 21:13.04 | jair | jelly, that sounds cool so in dirvish doest not matter what you add to the machine you always need a root access to run the backups? |
| 21:13.39 | servus | You can use rsync to push with a username that is chrooted on the backup server, yes? |
| 21:13.58 | servus | Affording a minor additional security layer. |
| 21:14.35 | mike36 | does anyone know of any good ids for debian |
| 21:14.41 | jelly | jair: well it always runs as root, but if you have another local disk (whether it's on USB or internal, it does not matter), al least you don't give root access to another machine. |
| 21:14.41 | blondie | ids? |
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| 21:14.58 | mike36 | itrusion detecion systems |
| 21:15.16 | blondie | oh |
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| 21:15.29 | servus | I hear good things about "Tripwire", mike36 |
| 21:15.42 | jelly | jair: Most backup software runs as root anyway... how else could it get access to all files? |
| 21:15.56 | servus | "apt-cache search intrusion" produces a succint list. |
| 21:16.12 | jair | jelly, ohhh so If I back up one machine to another HD in the same machine then I will not need the root access. |
| 21:16.24 | jair | jelly, it can be run from a regular user? |
| 21:16.26 | mike36 | ill have to try that out thanks servus |
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| 21:16.38 | jelly | servus: yeah, but you lose uid/gid information if you backup the whole system. |
| 21:16.41 | maxxle | I plan to configure a crypto-partition. what is better to use: dm-crypt or crypto-loop-device - I'm on testing. |
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| 21:17.09 | servus | Jelly, mm, good point. I only backup what needs to be backed up (data directory and DB dumps) |
| 21:17.38 | jelly | jair: I think so, but as I said, you lose uid/gid information if you backup the whole system. |
| 21:17.55 | justStormY | hey guys ;) |
| 21:18.16 | blockd | bayab00m: if you start the xterm from a shell, do you see any warnings about the locale? |
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| 21:18.47 | justStormY | can anybody tell me a very good system diagramm tool? anything like this http://www.damnsmalllinux.org/dsl-1.5.jpg (right down) |
| 21:18.56 | bayab00m | blockd, yes, i get this : Warning: locale not supported by C library, locale unchanged |
| 21:19.03 | Gyuszk | re |
| 21:19.18 | jair | jelly, so it is better for me to back up for example: /home/jair |
| 21:19.46 | jelly | jair: I use dirvish to backup locally, but to a separate disk. (This is a problem if the machine gets thunderstruck. ;-) |
| 21:20.05 | jair | jelly, ohhh |
| 21:20.19 | jair | it have to be a same size hard drive? |
| 21:20.22 | nvz | justStormY: there is no diagram tool there.. unless you mean the status dock |
| 21:20.25 | jair | jelly, it have to be a same size hard drive? |
| 21:20.42 | bayab00m | blockd, do you know what i can do to solve my problem? |
| 21:20.44 | justStormY | nvz: yes i mean that |
| 21:20.50 | nvz | justStormY: looks like gkrellm to me |
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| 21:21.03 | nvz | !info gkrellm |
| 21:21.05 | justStormY | i search for a good one - no idea what is good :) |
| 21:21.06 | dpkg | gkrellm: (multiple stacked system monitors: 1 process [client]), section x11, is optional. Version: 2.2.7-5 (sid), Packaged size: 393 kB, Installed size: 908 kB |
| 21:21.28 | blockd | bayab00m: I'm not sure other than using a different locale... I just use en_CA and it works for me, but obviously you'd like to use your own locale... |
| 21:21.48 | bayab00m | hm ok |
| 21:21.59 | blockd | bayab00m: or get de_DE.UTF-8 to work, but I'm not sure how you'd do that |
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| 21:22.16 | jelly | jair: no. dirvish is really an overgrown rsync wrapper, with the nice feature that the backups only take additional space when the files change. You should have maybe 2-3 times the space you currently use. |
| 21:22.25 | bayab00m | hm ok thanks anyway |
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| 21:22.46 | jair | jelly, cool |
| 21:22.56 | jair | jelly, can we work in one example? |
| 21:23.05 | jair | just make sure I understand it |
| 21:23.20 | jair | jelly, I just install dirvish |
| 21:23.27 | jelly | jair: I have some 15GB of data on / and /home, and a 60GB disk which holds about 2-3 months of backups. |
| 21:23.39 | jair | and I will put an external hd right now |
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| 21:23.47 | {OncrAckz} | linux-br |
| 21:23.51 | {OncrAckz} | sorry |
| 21:23.57 | jair | jelly, ohh ok |
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| 21:24.11 | jair | and what happen when the back up ziz reach the llimit of the hd>??? |
| 21:24.19 | Dodger | is "cat /dev/hda3 > /dev/hda1" a reasonable way to backup a partition? |
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| 21:24.38 | Andy837 | how do i remove everything ever installed on my debian box? i want it back to the day i installed it. i dont want to reinstall (no cd drive etc) |
| 21:24.41 | Gathond | Dodger: dd is probably better |
| 21:25.01 | Dodger | Gathond: hmm... ok... why? |
| 21:25.04 | jelly | Dodger: use dd, cat is slow. |
| 21:25.13 | Dodger | ahh, ok... |
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| 21:25.22 | deadcat | Dodger: dd |
| 21:25.23 | Gathond | Dodger: note that is will backup the filesystem complete with size information and so on, so depending on the situation you might want to dd it into a file instead |
| 21:26.17 | Dodger | so "dd if=/dev/hda3 of=/dev/hda1" should do what I want faster and better? |
| 21:26.18 | liable | Andy837: you can re-install without a cd drive. This way is pretty easy http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html |
| 21:26.25 | valdyn_ | Andy837: why would you do that? sensitive data? |
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| 21:27.04 | Gathond | Dodger: you might want to use a larger blocksize than the 512 byte default |
| 21:27.12 | Andy837 | brb |
| 21:27.27 | valdyn_ | !brb |
| 21:27.27 | dpkg | valdyn_: brb, too. Be Right Back |
| 21:27.29 | Dodger | Gathond: its just 1.8gigs, so it shouldn't be too bad, should it? |
| 21:27.53 | jelly | Dodger: if you don't want to think about block sizes and stuff, use dd_rescue which will figure it out itself. ;-) |
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| 21:28.50 | Dodger | coolio, thanks :-) will dd or dd_rescue wipe out the existing data at the target? |
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| 21:29.23 | valdyn_ | Dodger: if you ask this, do you AT ALL understand what these commands do? |
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| 21:29.23 | jelly | Dodger: It will overwrite. yes. |
| 21:29.27 | pre-newbie | i am tutorialing and i am wonderin what the author is talking about when he says home directory.... |
| 21:29.41 | Dodger | vsldyn_: lol, vaguely... |
| 21:29.44 | jelly | valdyn_: heh. Good call. |
| 21:29.44 | pre-newbie | for me is that either /home or is it /home/mycomputer/ |
| 21:29.51 | blockd | Dodger: but not /necessarily/ overwrite the entire partition |
| 21:29.53 | blockd | pre-newbie: $HOME |
| 21:29.54 | nvz | pre-newbie: echo $HOME |
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| 21:30.13 | caphuso | pre-newbie: there's a difference between a "home directory" and a "/home directory" |
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| 21:30.15 | pre-newbie | what is the offical name for my /home/mycomputer/ |
| 21:30.25 | blondie | what? |
| 21:30.32 | blondie | are you trolling? |
| 21:30.33 | valdyn_ | Dodger: read the manpage or google or somesuch, dd isnt foolproof in any sense |
| 21:30.41 | nvz | pre-newbie: /home/mycomputer/ is just that |
| 21:30.41 | blondie | pre-newbie: is your username "mycomputer"? |
| 21:30.44 | nvz | nothing more |
| 21:30.52 | pre-newbie | yea blondie |
| 21:30.57 | blondie | erm right.... |
| 21:31.01 | blondie | funny username :P |
| 21:31.03 | pre-newbie | thanks |
| 21:31.10 | pre-newbie | linux is tough ;) |
| 21:31.15 | azeem | pre-newbie: then yes, /home/mycomputer is your $HOME |
| 21:31.26 | pre-newbie | for a newb glad to have you all here |
| 21:32.09 | pre-newbie | cp -r /home/bob/tonyd/ ./ |
| 21:32.20 | pre-newbie | is that going to my /home/mycomputer/ |
| 21:32.27 | caphuso | pre-newbie: it's going to . |
| 21:33.17 | caphuso | if /home/mycomputer happens to be your current working directory, then yes, it'll go there |
| 21:33.21 | valdyn_ | pre-newbie: home directory is contained in $HOME, so you could run echo $HOME to see it. |
| 21:33.22 | azeem | pre-newbie: where '.' is your current location in the file sytem |
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| 21:33.40 | pre-newbie | thanks |
| 21:34.17 | pre-newbie | i am only about 30 years from being able to write a unix book....i will give you all a good price |
| 21:34.19 | pre-newbie | LOL |
| 21:34.30 | ramsey | I'm trying to find a package for the "dig" utility, but apt-cache search dig turns up a lot of results, but nothing that looks promising... anyone know the real name of this package on debian? |
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| 21:34.49 | caphuso | ramsey: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:34.49 | Dodger | jelly: dd_rescue is working well, thanks for the suggestion |
| 21:34.56 | jelly | ramsey: ummm... bind9-utils? |
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| 21:36.46 | jelly | ramsey: sorry, it's dnsutils |
| 21:36.57 | liquidice | could someone tell me how to reconfig my x server plz from shell |
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| 21:37.19 | jelly | Wasn't there an apt-file command for the bots? |
| 21:37.29 | caphuso | jelly: /msg dpkg search |
| 21:37.41 | Marticus | hrm |
| 21:37.43 | jelly | dpkg search /bin/dig |
| 21:37.52 | ramsey | jelly: I'm reading /msg dpkg search right now and installing apt-file |
| 21:37.56 | caphuso | liquidice: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-(xfree86|xorg) |
| 21:37.57 | jelly | dpkg, search /usr/bin/dig |
| 21:38.04 | liquidice | thjnx |
| 21:38.05 | sfullenwider | Does anyone know how to change the screen resolution settings in the gnome desktop? The two settings I have available are small and this monitor has run in higher settings in windows |
| 21:38.19 | Marticus | can someone recommend a domain management tool like cpanel, only free and opensource? |
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| 21:38.28 | jelly | dpkg is quiet. |
| 21:38.41 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 21:38.42 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 21:38.44 | thc | probably because you just triggered it six times. |
| 21:38.53 | ramsey | there we go... apt-file search /usr/bin/dig |
| 21:38.58 | thc | !cheesesteak abrotman |
| 21:39.04 | abrotman | sfullenwider: under preferences .. should be a Screen Resolution thingie |
| 21:39.05 | ramsey | dnsutils |
| 21:39.07 | jelly | dpkg, kick me |
| 21:39.09 | caphuso | jelly: did i tell you to use "/msg dpkg search something"? |
| 21:39.10 | ramsey | thanks! |
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| 21:39.19 | caphuso | jelly: or did i tell you to "/msg dpkg search"? |
| 21:39.28 | sfullenwider | Yeah, but the two settings in there are smaller than what this monitor can handle, what to I have to reconfigure to get it to list other settings? |
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| 21:39.33 | jelly | caphuso: you did. It returned nothing. Not even a negative response. |
| 21:39.39 | abrotman | ~drxx sfullenwider |
| 21:39.41 | caphuso | !search |
| 21:39.41 | dpkg | i guess search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 21:39.50 | caphuso | jelly: funny. works just fine |
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| 21:40.07 | l_lama | hi all |
| 21:40.11 | justStormY | where can i add autostarts in debian sarge? |
| 21:40.15 | drasko | hi all. I am trying to set up nat. I have problem: what does line: $IPTABLES -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $EXTIF -j MASQUERADE exactly means? |
| 21:40.20 | sfullenwider | ~drxx? |
| 21:40.22 | apt | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 # Run it as root! |
| 21:40.22 | abrotman | justStormY: read /etc/init.d/README |
| 21:40.25 | abrotman | drasko: #iptables |
| 21:40.27 | caphuso | jelly: of course, if you try to make up factoids like "search /usr/bin/dig" instead of using existing commands, then all the more power to you. but don't complain |
| 21:40.31 | Marticus | no recommendations for web administration like cpanel? |
| 21:40.35 | jelly | caphuso: strange. maybe my irc client is ignoring it. |
| 21:40.37 | abrotman | !drxx sfullenwider |
| 21:40.38 | dpkg | sfullenwider: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 21:40.46 | justStormY | thx.. |
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| 21:40.51 | sfullenwider | oh, ok |
| 21:41.02 | caphuso | jelly: no, it isn't. non-existing factoids don't make the bot tell you anything |
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| 21:41.17 | jelly | caphuso: I even tried "/msg dpkg search .*/bin/dig" but no response via /msg. |
| 21:41.23 | caphuso | jelly: dumbass! |
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| 21:41.27 | caphuso | jelly: "/msg dpkg search" |
| 21:41.37 | caphuso | jelly: just that. nothing else. only those three words |
| 21:41.37 | l_lama | I install kernel-image-2.6.14-686-smp with udev 074 on sarge and have strange bug - lspci show no devices, and pci/devices files in /sys and /proc are empty too |
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| 21:42.11 | jelly | caphuso: eh. My brain's on reserve. |
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| 21:42.23 | caphuso | jelly: oh, i wouldn't have noticed that... |
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| 21:42.36 | liquidice | im getting a error saying dpkg-rconfigure not found |
| 21:42.42 | caphuso | liquidice: try dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 21:43.18 | liquidice | thats what i put but says not found |
| 21:43.28 | caphuso | liquidice: be root |
| 21:43.31 | Tortel | omg |
| 21:43.32 | Tortel | http://www.100mb.nl/ |
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| 21:43.43 | liquidice | ok ill give that a try thnx |
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| 21:45.00 | zoghome | any body know of a OpenOffice.org 2 backport to sarge? |
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| 21:45.21 | abrotman | !backports |
| 21:45.21 | dpkg | i guess backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 21:45.41 | l_lama | zoghome, at backports. require j2re1.4 package |
| 21:46.24 | zoghome | l_lama: aha, so there is a backports.org now, cool, thanks |
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| 21:47.26 | pre-newbie | i just added a user "bob" but do not see it in /home/ I am root right now |
| 21:47.26 | dude | f |
| 21:47.32 | Lilldude10 | dsl ? is there a room? |
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| 21:48.09 | abrotman | pre-newbie: did you use useradd or adduser ? |
| 21:48.18 | pre-newbie | yep |
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| 21:48.23 | pre-newbie | useradd bob |
| 21:48.24 | azeem | pre-newbie: which one? |
| 21:48.27 | Lilldude10 | dam smal linux question |
| 21:48.27 | pre-newbie | gave him a password |
| 21:48.32 | azeem | pre-newbie: user adduser |
| 21:48.36 | azeem | eh, s/user/use/ |
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| 21:48.57 | Lilldude10 | in c/disk how i make swamp file? |
| 21:49.05 | justStormY | is cpanel smth. like webmin? |
| 21:49.06 | pre-newbie | i used useradd |
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| 21:49.22 | abrotman | pre-newbie: and we're telling you to use adduser |
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| 21:49.37 | dude | is this channel the place to ask ubuntu questions or is ubuntu too far removed from debian at this point? |
| 21:49.38 | pre-newbie | k sorry |
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| 21:49.54 | benley | dude: see topic, try #ubuntu |
| 21:49.55 | bbrazil | dude: #ubuntu |
| 21:50.06 | pre-newbie | how do i delete bob now lol |
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| 21:50.26 | blockd | dude: pre-newbie userdel |
| 21:50.27 | Dr_Fie | this is not #ubuntu |
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| 21:50.27 | Dr_Fie | lol |
| 21:50.28 | justStormY | lol |
| 21:50.31 | jelly | justStormY: yes and no. cPanel is commercial, and has tons of useful stuff. |
| 21:50.40 | blockd | oops, not dude |
| 21:50.41 | zoghome | l_lama: i cant see openoffice there |
| 21:50.51 | justStormY | kk |
| 21:50.59 | benley | is it just me, or are there lots of packages missing from etch right now? |
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| 21:51.20 | dude | is mwilson still haning out here? |
| 21:51.27 | justStormY | blockd: use deluser - should be the easiest for you |
| 21:51.38 | jelly | zoghome: try /pending |
| 21:51.44 | lucek | hi |
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| 21:52.32 | sneaky_ | is there a program that i can see what others are doing on a network |
| 21:52.39 | blockd | sneaky_: yes |
| 21:52.43 | sneaky_ | what? |
| 21:52.57 | blockd | sneaky_: depends what for... ethereal is a pretty basic one |
| 21:52.59 | benley | tcpdump, ethereal |
| 21:53.00 | justStormY | etheral :P |
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| 21:53.19 | sneaky_ | i wanna see exactly what the are doing like i can see there screen |
| 21:53.24 | l_lama | zoghome, /pending/openoffice.org |
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| 21:53.54 | sneaky_ | is there one for that? |
| 21:54.02 | Dodger | sneaky_: that's a lot harder |
| 21:54.08 | sneaky_ | u dont know how to? |
| 21:54.08 | blockd | sneaky_: if they're using ssh, then good luck ;) If they're using telnet, then this is why they should use ssh ;) |
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| 21:54.24 | justStormY | löl ;) |
| 21:54.34 | abrotman | !u |
| 21:54.35 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:54.35 | sneaky_ | its like what sites there doing, and what the are typing |
| 21:54.54 | Dodger | and even if they're using telnet, you're not going to see there screen... you'd have to have something installed on their computer to get that level of info... and it would take MASSIVE amounts of bandwidth... |
| 21:55.11 | abrotman | you can see thier tty i think though |
| 21:55.14 | Dodger | and it's mean ;-) |
| 21:55.18 | sneaky_ | mm and if i wanna see what the are typing? |
| 21:55.19 | benley | you can spy on ttys easily. |
| 21:55.24 | blockd | no, but you could probably make a program that simulates their terminal to some degree |
| 21:55.27 | sneaky_ | how? |
| 21:55.28 | benley | if you have root on the machine, cat /dev/vcs[0-9] |
| 21:55.35 | Dodger | keyloggers are easy... software or hardware? |
| 21:55.48 | benley | If they're using X, and you have root on the machine, steal their magic cookie and watch their X display. |
| 21:55.48 | sneaky_ | i wanna see the windows machine |
| 21:55.56 | abrotman | vnc ? |
| 21:55.58 | benley | If they're using windows, then you're in the wrong place. |
| 21:56.16 | sneaky_ | im using linux and them windows |
| 21:56.27 | benley | so you're asking for some windows rootkit, basically. |
| 21:56.28 | Dr_Fie | i'm using linux and windows |
| 21:56.33 | benley | Which isn't exactly the topic of this channel. |
| 21:56.34 | Dr_Fie | i'm re-installing debian right now |
| 21:56.39 | Dr_Fie | i used XFS which.. ehh yeah |
| 21:56.41 | Dr_Fie | you cant resize it |
| 21:56.42 | Dr_Fie | it sucks |
| 21:56.42 | sneaky_ | but i cant see them what they are typing? |
| 21:56.44 | jelly | sneaky_: first step, you finish high school and enroll in a college, with a CE major... |
| 21:56.50 | thc | !tell Dr_Fie about enter |
| 21:57.01 | Xenguy | greetings debianistas, some of my outgoing mail is being lost, and I'm trying to track down the error (MTA is Postfix). Anyway, what is the default domain name for a Debian system? localhost.localdomain.local ? |
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| 21:57.27 | abrotman | probably just locahost.localdomain |
| 21:57.28 | Dr_Fie | thc: do what mow? |
| 21:57.31 | Dr_Fie | meow* |
| 21:57.35 | l_lama | zoghome, http://ftp.linux.cz/pub/localization/OpenOffice.org/2.0/OOo_2.0_LinuxIntel_install_cy_deb.tar.gz |
| 21:57.40 | sneaky_ | but can i see from my linux machine, them on windows machinge typing |
| 21:57.40 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: use lvm |
| 21:57.54 | Dr_Fie | lvm? |
| 21:58.01 | benley | XFS cannot be shrunk, but it can grow. |
| 21:58.03 | Xenguy | abrotman: what output do you get for 'hostname' ? |
| 21:58.03 | abrotman | !tell Dr_Fie about lvm |
| 21:58.06 | benley | It can even grow while mounted. |
| 21:58.12 | abrotman | mycomp |
| 21:58.44 | Dodger | sneaky_: can you get a record of their text, yes. can you monitor their screen and see what they're doing? much harder. Will people here help you do something like this to attack someone else's computer? no |
| 21:58.51 | Dr_Fie | abrotman: ... that dosn't tell me anything |
| 21:59.10 | abrotman | sneaky_: you should be googling for this .. you shouldn't be asking us how to snoop on other people's stuff |
| 21:59.17 | sneaky_ | ok sorry |
| 21:59.18 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: freak out |
| 21:59.35 | Dr_Fie | wooo wooo! |
| 21:59.40 | sneaky_ | i just wanted to know is there a possibility and wich program or something |
| 21:59.47 | abrotman | sneaky_: use google |
| 21:59.58 | Xenguy | abrotman: 16:57 < abrotman> mycom <-- was that for me? |
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| 22:00.01 | Dr_Fie | abrotman: that information was compleatly unuseful |
| 22:00.08 | abrotman | Xenguy: yes :) |
| 22:00.10 | Dr_Fie | you are useless as well if you cant just tell me what you want me to know |
| 22:00.17 | abrotman | Xenguy: i'm not very inventive with my hostnames :) |
| 22:00.18 | benley | Dr_Fie: sorry, what was your question again? |
| 22:00.23 | Dr_Fie | the internet has made all of you lazy |
| 22:00.28 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: what do you want to know ? |
| 22:00.31 | Dr_Fie | benley: i didn't have one... |
| 22:00.39 | benley | then why are you yelling at people for not answering it? |
| 22:00.41 | Dr_Fie | benley: abrotman said to use lvm |
| 22:00.44 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: you haven't even asked a question .. and you call me lazy ? |
| 22:00.45 | benley | oh, right |
| 22:00.46 | thc | what's the proper file/directory to backup to keep all my evolution contacts/appointments, saving ~/.evolution/ isn't saving jack shit |
| 22:00.53 | thc | does evolution keep userdata somewhere else? |
| 22:00.54 | benley | Dr_Fie: there's a pretty useful LVM FAQ out there |
| 22:01.02 | Xenguy | abrotman: hrm, my output is like this -> host.localdomain.local <-- does that look wrong to you? |
| 22:01.03 | benley | er, LVM HOWTO |
| 22:01.04 | Dr_Fie | abrotman: .. i didn't ask a question damn it! |
| 22:01.08 | abrotman | Xenguy: yes |
| 22:01.09 | benley | Dr_Fie: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 22:01.12 | Dr_Fie | I DONT WANT TO USE LVM |
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| 22:01.20 | benley | ok, so don't |
| 22:01.22 | bucky | Dr_Fie: that's a statement |
| 22:01.23 | Dr_Fie | i fucking said i'm reinstalling debian because you cant resize xfs partitions |
| 22:01.23 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: LVM allows you to grow/shrink certain FSs ... |
| 22:01.24 | jelly | Dr_Fie: Hey, stop freaking out. |
| 22:01.27 | Dr_Fie | or at least shrink them |
| 22:01.35 | Dr_Fie | jelly: thx.. srry |
| 22:01.36 | abrotman | Dr_Fie: you can grow them .. not shrink them |
| 22:01.43 | benley | shrinking filesystems frightens me. On any platform. |
| 22:01.58 | Xenguy | abrotman: are you certain it should only be one word/name then? |
| 22:01.59 | Dr_Fie | benley: oh? |
| 22:02.06 | Dr_Fie | ext* shouldn't be a problem |
| 22:02.08 | Andy837 | how can i change the GUI the login manager loads? |
| 22:02.15 | Dr_Fie | parted apparently can do it very easily |
| 22:02.29 | Dodger | I tried using gnu parted to resize some partitions on my machine yesterday and I'm still trying to repair the damage I did to myself... proceed with caution Dr. Fie |
| 22:02.31 | benley | Dr_Fie: supposedly, yeah ... I would still have a full backup handy before trying it :) |
| 22:02.39 | misieq | how can i download .deb from repository without using apt? |
| 22:02.39 | abrotman | Xenguy: no .. i'm just saying that yours looks wrong :) .. check /etc/hosts |
| 22:02.43 | Dr_Fie | lol @ Dodger kay thx |
| 22:02.48 | Dr_Fie | Dodger: what fs were you using? |
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| 22:02.52 | benley | misieq: it's just http or ftp - use wget |
| 22:02.57 | Xenguy | abrotman: OK, thx |
| 22:02.58 | Dodger | Dr_Fie: ext2 |
| 22:02.59 | jelly | Andy837: usually you install another one, then the login manager lets you choose it. |
| 22:03.07 | abrotman | eww .. ext2 :) |
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| 22:03.19 | Dr_Fie | benley: my linux has no importants to me |
| 22:03.19 | Andy837 | i got xfce installed and it keeps loading |
| 22:03.24 | Dr_Fie | at this point at least.... |
| 22:03.35 | Andy837 | i tried apt-get remove xfce4 but it still loads? |
| 22:03.40 | jelly | abrotman: what's wrong with ext2? At least you can undelete from it. ;-) |
| 22:03.44 | misieq | benley and servers are in list.apt or something like this? |
| 22:03.55 | benley | undelete? That's what backups are for :) |
| 22:04.03 | Dr_Fie | i partitioned my drive into 3 ext3 partitions and a swap space.. going to try to install 3 distros on here |
| 22:04.05 | blockd | Andy837: if you're using something like kdm or gdm, doesn't it let you select your WM/DE from "sessions" IIRC |
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| 22:04.23 | Andy837 | not a clue |
| 22:04.27 | abrotman | jelly: or you could alias rm to rm -i :) |
| 22:04.31 | benley | alright, I gotta get out of here before I get sucked in. |
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| 22:04.43 | Andy837 | im running the computer headless, connect to it via VNC |
| 22:04.55 | jelly | abrotman: been there, done that, leaned to automatically press y<ENTER>... |
| 22:05.06 | abrotman | jelly: well .. who's fault is that ? :) |
| 22:05.16 | jelly | abrotman: The Man! |
| 22:05.18 | nezzari | hello, I'm not sure what to select on "X server driver" I have an Nvidia 6600GT |
| 22:05.26 | jelly | abrotman: or maybe Canada. |
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| 22:05.48 | dusk | !dpkg ati radeon driver |
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| 22:05.51 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 22:05.51 | dpkg | it has been said that ati debs is http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 22:06.09 | dusk | abrotman: you're awesome |
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| 22:06.29 | pre-newbie | what does the -r switch mean her cp -r |
| 22:06.36 | jelly | nezzari: nv? |
| 22:06.40 | dusk | got gmplayer working.. but only way I did is with direct rendering which slows everything down.. I KNOW i dont have fglrx setup |
| 22:06.42 | doleyb | pre-newbie: -r = recursive = go down into directories |
| 22:06.43 | blockd | pre-newbie: I think -R is better, IIRC -r is broken |
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| 22:06.46 | Andy837 | debconf: (Can't locate Qt.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde/Wizard.pm line 7, <> line 1.) |
| 22:06.46 | Andy837 | debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog |
| 22:06.54 | nezzari | jelly: nv? |
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| 22:07.03 | misieq | pre-newbie: man cp |
| 22:07.08 | Andy837 | i get that error when i want to install kde |
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| 22:07.19 | jelly | nezzari: is there no such option? |
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| 22:07.26 | misieq | is there a mplayer .deb ? |
| 22:07.33 | abrotman | !tell misieq about marillat |
| 22:07.39 | pre-newbie | ty |
| 22:07.40 | nezzari | jelly: ah, there is.Is that Nvidia? |
| 22:07.41 | dusk | haha |
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| 22:07.44 | pre-newbie | oh there is help |
| 22:07.46 | roler | are there any links on laptop kernel options that should or should not be enabled? Just for over all battery life, performance, etc |
| 22:07.47 | Andy837 | debconf: (Can't locate Qt.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /etc/perl /usr/local/lib/perl/5.8.4 /usr/local/share/perl/5.8.4 /usr/lib/perl5 /usr/share/perl5 /usr/lib/perl/5.8 /usr/share/perl/5.8 /usr/local/lib/site_perl .) at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Kde/Wizard.pm line 7, <> line 1.) |
| 22:07.52 | dusk | misieq: good luck! i just wreslted with that for the past 3 hours |
| 22:07.59 | abrotman | !find Qt.pm sarge |
| 22:08.00 | jelly | nezzari: I think so. |
| 22:08.02 | blockd | Andy837: looks like you need perlqt |
| 22:08.06 | nezzari | jelly: thanks |
| 22:08.06 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'Qt.pm' (1): (/usr/lib/perl5/Qt.pm) in perl/libqt-perl. |
| 22:08.06 | blockd | maybe |
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| 22:08.39 | abrotman | yay .. barking dogs |
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| 22:09.06 | Andy837 | perlqt? |
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| 22:09.12 | Andy837 | using apt-get? |
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| 22:09.38 | blockd | Andy837: or as dpkg above said it |
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| 22:10.03 | roler | if I have a hyper threading laptop should I enable SMP? Or just leave it off? |
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| 22:10.25 | Andy837 | how you mean Debian Search? |
| 22:10.30 | blockd | Andy837: libqt-perl |
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| 22:10.45 | nico881 | hi |
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| 22:10.55 | thc | heh. some dude on irc.gnome.org just told me how to backup evolution |
| 22:10.57 | thc | what a hassle |
| 22:11.06 | thc | why doesn't it have a simple "export" function |
| 22:11.10 | abrotman | you wish |
| 22:11.11 | CSMan | does anybody know how to use wpa_supplicant ? |
| 22:11.15 | justStormY | gn8 guys |
| 22:11.24 | dusk | how do I install a key? |
| 22:11.30 | dusk | http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/gpgkey.asc |
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| 22:11.49 | witless | anyone know how to scp a remote file with spaces and colons in its name? |
| 22:11.51 | CSMan | dusk: keygen then mv to /etc/sshd |
| 22:12.02 | blockd | gpg --import |
| 22:12.08 | Andy837 | ok |
| 22:12.12 | blockd | dusk: ^ |
| 22:12.13 | jelly | CSMan: ?? |
| 22:12.21 | Andy837 | so how do i remove xfce4? |
| 22:12.51 | blockd | dusk: or use something like kgpg if you want a gui |
| 22:13.10 | jelly | witless: escape spaces with \\, or use \* and \? |
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| 22:13.31 | blockd | witless: putting single or double quotes (depending) should also work |
| 22:13.46 | blockd | scp foo@bar:'some file with spaces' . |
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| 22:14.08 | thc | Andy837: the same way you remove other packages. |
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| 22:14.35 | Andy837 | i did but it still loads on start up |
| 22:14.38 | witless | \\ and single or double quotes still no workee |
| 22:14.49 | roler | should SMP be enabled on a desktop system that is running a HyperThreading intel cpu? |
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| 22:14.58 | abrotman | !ht |
| 22:14.59 | dpkg | hmm... ht is Haiti. HyperThreading, a technology from intel included in processors from the P4 3.05 GHz, that emulates two processors in a single cpu machine You must enable CONFIG_ACPI_HT, CONFIG_SMP and CONFIG_CPU_LOBOTOMY in your kernel to use it. |
| 22:15.01 | thc | Andy837: man apt-get; read the --purge option |
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| 22:15.31 | poop | roler: Sure, it'll net you another 5% in performance, why not |
| 22:15.33 | nico881 | anyone know how to modify the order of the items (search engines) in the search app in the upper-right corner of firefox? i found how to add/delete but not how to change order... :( |
| 22:15.42 | FirstLite | witless: I use scp user@host:'file\ with\ spaces', i.e. I escape twice |
| 22:15.42 | roler | poop; that was my question. been reading how it can also slow you down. |
| 22:15.43 | roler | thanks |
| 22:15.50 | jeph | Help PLEASE. I cannot get regcomp(3) and regexec(3) to match a string of three digits :-( |
| 22:15.57 | jelly | poop: that's including the SMP kernel related drop in performance? |
| 22:15.57 | nezzari | what is the command to reconfig Xfree86? |
| 22:16.04 | thc | !drxx nezzari |
| 22:16.06 | dpkg | nezzari: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 22:16.17 | nezzari | thc: thanks' |
| 22:16.25 | thc | welcome |
| 22:16.25 | dusk | i used the key, gpg --import key.gpg and it still gives me errors |
| 22:16.27 | dusk | W: GPG error: http://xoomer.virgilio.it Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3DCCCCACE46F104F |
| 22:16.35 | roler | thanks |
| 22:16.42 | jeph | I used "([0-9]{1,3})" but it fails to match |
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| 22:17.49 | jelly | dusk: so try getting it from the keyserver: gpg --recv-key 3DCCCCACE46F104F |
| 22:17.52 | abrotman | jeph: that's only 2 .. |
| 22:18.23 | jair | jelly, I am here yes |
| 22:18.27 | dusk | jely: didnt work, no :( |
| 22:18.44 | jeph | abrotman: my understanding is that it means at least one, but no more than three... |
| 22:18.56 | jair | jelly, but I am having a problem with my irc connection so i will try to reinstall it and configure my network again |
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| 22:19.12 | jelly | jair: np. |
| 22:19.25 | jair | the pm messages instead comes in a new window they are appearing like this: *jelly* message |
| 22:19.38 | jair | in this same channel which bothers me |
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| 22:19.53 | jair | jelly, but I will be back right now |
| 22:20.04 | jeph | OK, now I tried "(.*)" and that doesn't match! I'm checking the return value of regexec. |
| 22:20.09 | jelly | jair: eh, this sometimes happens with xchat, this is not a problem with the connection but the client. |
| 22:20.12 | jair | jelly, have you ever have that problem in irc channel xchat> |
| 22:20.13 | jeph | if 0 it matched as per regex(3) |
| 22:20.22 | jair | ohh ok |
| 22:20.41 | jair | then i will restart my router and the xchat to see what is happening |
| 22:20.43 | abrotman | jeph: maybe ask #bash ? |
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| 22:20.50 | jelly | try right click on the nick then "open dialog window" |
| 22:20.52 | jair | jelly, I will be back |
| 22:21.07 | jair | it works |
| 22:21.10 | jair | :) |
| 22:21.14 | jair | jelly, ok |
| 22:21.22 | lucek | I am have one problem I am wont cI am have one problem I am wont com back may GBUB-a on MBR I am do mkdir /mnt/g |
| 22:21.22 | lucek | mount/dev/hda5 /mnt/g |
| 22:21.22 | lucek | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/g/boot |
| 22:21.22 | lucek | chroot /mnt/g |
| 22:21.22 | lucek | grub --install /dev/hda |
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| 22:21.53 | dusk | sorry to keep buggin, but I cant get this key to import, nor can I download it from the keyserver :( |
| 22:22.15 | Tortel | hmm, if Knoppix has NTFS write ability, why doesnt debian? |
| 22:22.58 | jelly | dusk: did gpg tell you to add a --keyserver option? |
| 22:22.59 | thc | Tortel: if it does, it's using captive-ntfs, which you can also use on Debian |
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| 22:23.08 | Dodger | wahoo! my system is in tatters, but I finally have it limping along, and double the space where it needs it... thanks everyone who responded to me at some point! |
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| 22:23.21 | dusk | gpg: requesting key E46F104F from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net |
| 22:23.21 | dusk | gpg: key E46F104F: "Flavio Stanchina <flavio@stanchina.net>" not changed |
| 22:23.21 | dusk | gpg: Total number processed: 1 |
| 22:23.21 | dusk | gpg: unchanged: 1 |
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| 22:23.30 | dusk | i gotta stop doin that |
| 22:23.40 | dusk | jelly: anyway, it looks like it DID work |
| 22:23.42 | scarynetworkguy | # |
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| 22:23.53 | dusk | but when I apt-get update it says its still not working |
| 22:24.21 | Tchiak | ls |
| 22:24.26 | nezzari | I can't seem to get xserver working. I tried nv and vga, but neither seem to work |
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| 22:24.38 | thc | nezzari: what graphics card |
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| 22:24.48 | thc | nezzari: also try the vesa driver |
| 22:25.11 | X-Shadow | algum brasileiro ai?? |
| 22:25.14 | nezzari | thc: I have an Nvidia 6600GT |
| 22:25.21 | thc | !tell X-Shadow about br |
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| 22:25.35 | jelly | dusk: i _think_ you'll have to export the key from your gpg and import it with apt-key |
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| 22:25.41 | nezzari | thc: eVGA 6600GT |
| 22:25.49 | dusk | jelly: err, how do I do that |
| 22:25.57 | Tchiak | nezzari download their driver from nivida.com for linux |
| 22:26.04 | doleyb | !apt-key 1F41B907 |
| 22:26.05 | dpkg | gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ; gpg --export 1F41B907 | sudo apt-key add -; |
| 22:26.06 | jelly | dusk: gpg --export --armor stanchina > tempfile; apt-key add tempfile |
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| 22:26.20 | jelly | yeah |
| 22:26.25 | Tchiak | then follow the instructions on the site for what to do to xfconfig |
| 22:26.33 | thc | nezzari: do not do what Tchiak just said, /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 22:26.34 | Daedalus_ | !tell nezzari about nvidia-installer |
| 22:26.39 | dusk | jelly: you're awesome |
| 22:26.40 | Tchiak | o_O |
| 22:26.42 | Tchiak | worked for me thc |
| 22:26.44 | dusk | doleyb: you too, thx |
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| 22:27.00 | thc | Tchiak: then you can hold nezzari's hand while he installs it, your way. |
| 22:27.04 | Tchiak | @_@ |
| 22:27.07 | Tchiak | i'm not here |
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| 22:27.33 | Daedalus_ | thc: the nvidia-howto in dpkg is quite good |
| 22:27.42 | black_Nightmare | for a debian-based distro that comes with gnome and openoffice -- how difficult would it be to replace gnome with kde and removing openoffice as well..without leaving too much mess behind? |
| 22:27.44 | doleyb | nezzari: you _should_ be able to make your card work with nv, you should only need nvidia if nv is too slow |
| 22:27.50 | thc | Daedalus_: did i say it wasnt? |
| 22:27.59 | black_Nightmare | reason is I think I'll really rather like to go with kde+koffice |
| 22:28.02 | thc | i said to use dpkg's nvidia one liner. |
| 22:28.07 | doleyb | black_Nightmare: what you do, is download kubuntu instead, and you're done |
| 22:28.14 | dusk | _hi_ |
| 22:28.19 | black_Nightmare | doleyb..I said debian-based..not debian :p |
| 22:28.24 | Daedalus_ | thc: D'oh... got people confused |
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| 22:28.55 | doleyb | black_Nightmare: why don't you say the name of the distro you mean? |
| 22:29.01 | nezzari | I got the card working with vesa |
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| 22:29.19 | doleyb | nezzari: it should be possible to just change "vesa" to "nv" and still work. |
| 22:29.29 | Daedalus_ | !tell black_Nightmare about debian-based |
| 22:29.41 | nezzari | doleyb: alright, going to try it |
| 22:30.00 | lucek | I am have one problem I am wont com back may GBUB-a on MBR I am do mkdir /mnt/g |
| 22:30.00 | lucek | mount/dev/hda5 /mnt/g |
| 22:30.01 | lucek | mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/g/boot |
| 22:30.01 | lucek | chroot /mnt/g |
| 22:30.01 | lucek | grub --install /dev/hda |
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| 22:31.01 | cat_ | hey i have a quick question i download the nvidia drivers, and everything works fine, graphics look smooth, so when i do ctrl alt f1 to go to a terminal and then when i want to go back to waimea or fluxbox it says This video mode cannot be display any ideas?? |
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| 22:31.19 | cat_ | what can i do |
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| 22:31.36 | doleyb | cat_: what do you do when you "want to go back" ? |
| 22:31.41 | bucky | ctrl alt f7 doesn't take you back? |
| 22:31.41 | Daedalus_ | You Ctrl_alt_F& to try to get back to X, right? |
| 22:31.42 | dusk | whats the cmd to see if direct rendering is on? |
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| 22:32.19 | cat_ | doleyb: i just want to go back to waimea, or fluxbox and it doesnt go back it tells me that this video mode cannot be display |
| 22:32.23 | cat_ | so i'm wondering what's going on |
| 22:32.41 | doleyb | doleyb: so what do you DO to "go back". You can't just "want" and get an error message. |
| 22:32.42 | Daedalus_ | cat_: How is it that you "try to go back". What commands do you use? |
| 22:32.56 | TheCount | damn. I can't get over the effect on http://www.zippyvideos.com/1815282882323496/dolmio14/. |
| 22:33.01 | Daedalus_ | doleyb: Although that would be really cool |
| 22:33.02 | nezzari | doleyb: nv broke it again, had to switch back |
| 22:33.12 | TheCount | bullshit, I mean http://www.ikea.com/ms/sv_SE/kampanj/fy06_dromkok/dromkok.html |
| 22:33.14 | cat_ | Daedalus_: ctrl alt f7 |
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| 22:33.19 | TheCount | that effect. forget the other one |
| 22:33.24 | doleyb | nezzari: o well, that's weird though, normally people only have trouble trying to get "nvidia", not just "nv" |
| 22:33.40 | thc | nezzari: that's why i said use "vesa" and /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 22:33.52 | nezzari | thc: I will, thanks |
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| 22:34.02 | thc | xfree86's "nv" driver will not work on your graphics card, which is why you use vesa just to get X started |
| 22:34.09 | Daedalus_ | cat_: hrmm... are you using the nv driver or the nvidia one? |
| 22:34.11 | cat_ | hmmm ok |
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| 22:34.16 | cat_ | nvdriver |
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| 22:35.13 | Daedalus_ | cat_: Hrmm. I don't know much about what the nv driver can and cannot do. You might try switching to the nvidia driver. I know that driver supports it. |
| 22:35.37 | doleyb | cat_: linux does not necessarily support that, changing gfx drivers without terminating them is a hack |
| 22:35.44 | cat_ | oh |
| 22:36.06 | Daedalus_ | cat_: alternatively, you can just try to avoid switching to the console and use xterms instead |
| 22:36.19 | cat_ | damn |
| 22:36.26 | cat_ | but how can it be? |
| 22:36.28 | cat_ | just don't get it |
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| 22:37.15 | doleyb | cat_: if you are a master programmer, you can start from this patch, and make it work http://lists.freedesktop.org/pipermail/xorg/2005-March/006745.html |
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| 22:38.10 | Daedalus_ | doleyb: Ok, now I'm confused. I can switch from console to X and back to my hearts content, and have been able to do so since I can remember. What changed? |
| 22:38.19 | cat_ | i suck at programming |
| 22:38.36 | cat_ | it says it cannot display this video mode |
| 22:38.50 | doleyb | Daedalus_: that's never been well-designed to work consistently. Some video drivers support that, but there's no requirement that they do so. http://www.freedesktop.org/~jonsmirl/graphics.html |
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| 22:39.11 | Daedalus_ | doleyb: so why doesn't he just switch to a driver that does? |
| 22:39.11 | Dr_Fie | hey |
| 22:39.15 | Thanatosx | kkkk |
| 22:39.17 | Dr_Fie | how can i get rid of the whole gnome package |
| 22:39.30 | Guerin | !remove gnome |
| 22:39.30 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 22:39.53 | doleyb | Daedalus_: because simply "switching to a driver" would mean unloading other drivers, which would terminate all X11 apps, which you don't want. |
| 22:40.04 | Dr_Fie | Guerin: thx |
| 22:40.21 | emergo | My keyboard just stopped working, work in bios and lilo menu. Then stop working (usb and ps/2 mouse, neither work, gdm). What do I look for ? |
| 22:40.50 | Daedalus_ | doleyb: dude. I'm talking about changing his setup for good. Removing the nv driver and using the nvidia one. This will necessitate restarting X a few times, to be sure.... but that's never killed anyuone |
| 22:40.53 | Dr_Fie | --purge? |
| 22:41.17 | Dr_Fie | didn't work |
| 22:41.26 | Dr_Fie | apt-get remove did though |
| 22:41.36 | robin_sz | he's not the mesiah ... he's a very naughty boy. |
| 22:42.01 | doleyb | Daedalus_: the nvidia driver has been observed to not support it on many systems. |
| 22:42.01 | doleyb | if it works for you, that's your good luck |
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| 22:43.28 | robin_sz | and ... I'm still waiting for debian for Windows XP to arrive ... this DOS version sucks. |
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| 22:44.13 | Daedalus_ | robin_sz: that sounds just all sorts of wrong. |
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| 22:44.43 | k-man | im having trouble installing grub under vmware |
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| 22:45.16 | k-man | when i try and install it it says /dev/sda2 does not have any corresponding drive |
| 22:45.36 | k-man | can i install grub only on a secondary partition? so vmware can boot off that partition? |
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| 22:45.53 | robin_sz | dare I try and install debian on this spare partition of my dedrat+xp laptop .. dare I? |
| 22:46.01 | robin_sz | will lilo shit itself? |
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| 22:46.54 | blondie | o.O |
| 22:46.57 | blondie | O.o |
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| 22:47.53 | Dr_Fie | oi vey |
| 22:47.55 | Dr_Fie | .sigh. |
| 22:48.01 | Dr_Fie | kde has soooo much on their damn menu |
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| 22:48.25 | nezzari | I have an athlon x2 CPU, but the SMP kernel doesn't seem to boot, should Ijust use the original AMD64 one? |
| 22:48.37 | abrotman | or ask #debian-amd64 |
| 22:48.49 | nezzari | That place is dead |
| 22:48.57 | poop | nezzari: Maybe you need a newer kernel. |
| 22:49.08 | nezzari | poop: latest kernel I see there |
| 22:49.42 | abrotman | nezzari: you could just wait ... |
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| 22:51.52 | hodgman_ | Hello, I've had a few compliants from people I host websites for that use dreamweaver MX and that they aren't able to login via sftp. Anyone here know of a fix for this. I've been googling the problem for some time and this only seems to be a debian related issue. |
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| 22:53.05 | schippes | what do i need to configure a wlan card onm card plug and deconfigure it on pull ? can i do this with hotplug scripts or do i need some other package like ifplugd ? |
| 22:53.33 | abrotman | hodgman_: did they give you error messages ? .. or do you see errors in your logs ? |
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| 22:53.44 | misieq | how do i turn off this 'beep' in console when trying to tab-complete the command when the input is ambiguous? |
| 22:53.51 | abrotman | !beep |
| 22:53.52 | dpkg | from memory, beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
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| 22:54.07 | hodgman_ | abrotman: I don't see any errors in my logs...but let me see if I can dig up the msg from my emails |
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| 22:54.54 | jelly | eek |
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| 22:54.58 | Diggit1 | can anyone recommend a mature ftp client? |
| 22:55.03 | sacha | help me... naum consigo instalar minha web cam genius |
| 22:55.12 | jelly | Diggit1: I dig lftp. |
| 22:55.19 | sacha | alguem pode me da uma ajuda |
| 22:55.21 | misieq | abrotman, is there any question for which dpkg wouldn't know the answer? ('the ultimate question of all universe' :) ? ) |
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| 22:55.31 | abrotman | !meaning of life |
| 22:55.32 | dpkg | THE ANSWER LIES IN THE PUDDING, abrotman, or 42 |
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| 22:55.47 | misieq | ahhh... i knew it :) |
| 22:55.59 | misieq | !deep thought |
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| 22:56.15 | usuario_ | hola soy muy nuevo en esto alguien me podría decir como hago para chatear con el messenger? gracias. |
| 22:56.19 | blockd | Diggit1: ncftp is OK, but not a GUI program |
| 22:56.20 | sfullenwider | ALright, now that I got the dvd drive working, anyone know what I should use to play normal dvd's with it? |
| 22:56.21 | misieq | !vogons |
| 22:56.23 | bbrazil | !es |
| 22:56.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 22:56.48 | Baloo | Is there a Debian jabber chatgroup? |
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| 22:57.09 | misieq | abrotman, if beep comes as a package then i can simply uninstall it, right? |
| 22:57.18 | abrotman | misieq: you didn't read the whole thing |
| 22:57.25 | lethias | what programs can you use to defragment you hard drive in linux. |
| 22:57.30 | abrotman | you don't have to |
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| 22:57.55 | jelly | abrotman: unless you use buggy filesystems... |
| 22:57.57 | hodgman_ | abrotman: its just a real generic error "An FTP error occurred - cannot make connection to host. Your login or password is incorrect. Please check your connection information." |
| 22:58.24 | abrotman | hodgman_: that's kind of hard to diagnose .. |
| 22:58.29 | abrotman | hodgman_: does it work for you ? |
| 22:58.39 | abrotman | hodgman_: i mean from Dreamweaver |
| 22:58.51 | hodgman_ | I was only able to try it at the clients location once |
| 22:58.57 | abrotman | did it work ? |
| 22:59.02 | hodgman_ | and no it didn't work |
| 22:59.16 | abrotman | but the account works via a normal client ? |
| 22:59.17 | hodgman_ | I was able to log into my freebsd server just fine |
| 22:59.19 | abrotman | err linux clinet ? |
| 22:59.23 | hodgman_ | yes |
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| 22:59.33 | abrotman | hodgman_: anything in the error logs ? |
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| 22:59.38 | misieq | abrotman, do how can i turn the beep off? |
| 22:59.42 | abrotman | !beer |
| 22:59.42 | dpkg | i guess beer is liquid gold mate |
| 22:59.43 | hodgman_ | even the winscp program they're having to use as passaround |
| 22:59.44 | abrotman | !beep |
| 22:59.44 | dpkg | i guess beep is /exec -o echo -ne "\007". A generic application level transport, with multiple channels over TCP and a nice standard auth section + many other goodies, see www.beepcore.org for more info, or apt-get install beep, or ^G, or a buggy xmms gtk2 port |
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| 23:00.00 | hodgman_ | it all works except dreamweaver |
| 23:00.00 | abrotman | misieq: oh .. sorry |
| 23:00.20 | abrotman | hodgman_: i'd say it's a dreamweaver issue .. did you try google and groups.google ? |
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| 23:00.29 | hodgman_ | abrotman: yeah |
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| 23:00.48 | hodgman_ | I generally hit all those before coming here asking ;) |
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| 23:01.27 | emergo | I dont have a keyboard or mouse in gdm ( usb mouse, and ps/2 moue |
| 23:01.34 | abrotman | misieq: |
| 23:01.36 | abrotman | !bell |
| 23:01.36 | dpkg | well, bell is "xset b off" in X, or "setterm -blength 0" in console . For some reason, bash beeps excessively when in emacs (default) mode. "set -o vi" puts it in vi editing mode, which doesn't beep on partial completions. See also <shell beep>. or "set bell-style none" in ~/.inputrc |
| 23:02.13 | emergo | I dont have a keyboard or mouse in gdm ( usb keyboard, and ps/2 mouse) what modules can I use ? insmode usb ? |
| 23:02.25 | abrotman | !usbmouse |
| 23:02.25 | dpkg | methinks usbmouse is [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
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| 23:02.35 | dusk | how can I *properly* stop/restart x? |
| 23:02.43 | abrotman | dusk: which display manager ? |
| 23:02.48 | dusk | abrotman: gdm |
| 23:02.54 | abrotman | dusk: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 23:03.06 | Tchiak | o_o |
| 23:03.13 | dusk | abrotman: from ctrl-alt-f4? or some other window? |
| 23:03.24 | abrotman | dusk: sure |
| 23:03.31 | dusk | abrotman: or can I do it from my current window? |
| 23:03.39 | abrotman | dusk: you can .. but it will log you out :) |
| 23:04.03 | abrotman | !fuck KFC for leaving my town |
| 23:04.10 | Phated | :O No more KFC? |
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| 23:04.16 | abrotman | not in my town |
| 23:04.21 | Phated | Heh. Sucks. |
| 23:04.27 | thc | abrotman: open up a popeye's. |
| 23:04.31 | misieq | abrotman, hasn't there been something like ctrl-lalt-bksp? |
| 23:04.39 | drasko | hi all. How to insert my firewall script in rc.init? |
| 23:04.49 | abrotman | thc: ick |
| 23:04.58 | abrotman | misieq: afaik .. that's a crash .. not a restart |
| 23:05.02 | thc | abrotman: fried chicken is ick period. |
| 23:05.05 | WoodyWoodpecker | What is the permission for /etc/exim4/passwd-client ? |
| 23:05.07 | abrotman | misieq: and he did say properly |
| 23:05.13 | WoodyWoodpecker | ^^And the ownership ? |
| 23:05.14 | abrotman | thc: i like chicken |
| 23:05.22 | Phated | Chickeeeeen, |
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| 23:05.32 | misieq | abrotman, i was just wondering whats the difference |
| 23:05.34 | thc | -rw-r----- 1 root Debian-exim 112 2005-05-27 01:10 passwd.client |
| 23:05.43 | blockd | misieq: it doesn't shut it down nicely AFAIK. The term is "zapping" it. |
| 23:05.55 | abrotman | misieq: you mean what's the difference between a crash and a graceful restart ? |
| 23:05.58 | thc | chicken is good, fried chicken isn't. |
| 23:06.00 | WoodyWoodpecker | thx thc |
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| 23:06.12 | thc | WoodyWoodpecker: no problem |
| 23:06.23 | abrotman | thc: i like chicken :) |
| 23:06.24 | dusk | abrotman: heh, it worked, thx.. but my screen rez is all messed up |
| 23:06.33 | abrotman | !drxx dusk |
| 23:06.34 | dpkg | dusk: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:06.38 | dusk | xorg |
| 23:06.48 | abrotman | that's fine . it covers xorg |
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| 23:07.13 | misieq | abrotman, what's the difference between x.org and xfree86? |
| 23:07.39 | WoodyWoodpecker | thc: How can I manage to send the emails in the mailq again ? |
| 23:07.39 | blockd | licensing for one thing. XOrg is a fork of XFre86. |
| 23:07.44 | blockd | *XFree86 |
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| 23:07.58 | abrotman | misieq: licensing .. and xfree is dying |
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| 23:08.07 | Gyuszk|nem | bye |
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| 23:08.15 | thc | WoodyWoodpecker: no idea, how did the permissions/ownership change? |
| 23:08.36 | WoodyWoodpecker | I chaned it to 640 ; root: Debian-exim4 |
| 23:08.40 | Baloo | xfree86 is dying because of it's licensing |
| 23:08.47 | WoodyWoodpecker | But I have in the mailq 3 mails I have to resend |
| 23:08.59 | WoodyWoodpecker | I know there is exim --whatever |
| 23:09.04 | misieq | how can i install kde 3.4 in sarge stable? |
| 23:09.06 | WoodyWoodpecker | But I don`t remember any more :-/ |
| 23:09.15 | abrotman | misieq: ask #debian-kde |
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| 23:12.50 | blaze | Hey all. |
| 23:12.55 | phasegen | two quick questions... how do I upgrade from sarge to sid, and what's the best way to install the 2.6.12 or 14 kernel? |
| 23:13.15 | abrotman | !iyhtays |
| 23:13.15 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
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| 23:13.50 | `ns` | all bow to the wisdom of dpkg |
| 23:14.15 | abrotman | !moo |
| 23:14.15 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 23:15.13 | phasegen | I'm very new to debian, I understand apt, but I can't find the kernel without downloading the source... |
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| 23:15.41 | abrotman | phasegen: why do you want a newer kenrel ? |
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| 23:16.00 | phasegen | I like having hal work. |
| 23:16.25 | abrotman | hal works on 2.6.8 |
| 23:16.25 | phasegen | I'm lazy |
| 23:16.45 | abrotman | phasegen: you'r erunning 2.6.8 now ? |
| 23:16.47 | phasegen | I got 2.4.27 running right now... |
| 23:16.49 | poop | 2.6.8 is in sarge ... |
| 23:16.59 | abrotman | phasegen: what's your CPU ? |
| 23:17.15 | phasegen | besides, why go for the minimum? |
| 23:17.20 | abrotman | phasegen: what's your CPU ? |
| 23:17.26 | phasegen | celeron 2.4gHz |
| 23:17.35 | abrotman | phasegen: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
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| 23:18.47 | `ns` | and you might think about going to testing/etch rather than unstable/sid |
| 23:18.48 | cton | my x wont run, the log file says it has something to do with the mouse, but the mouse drivers I have worked previously |
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| 23:19.19 | phasegen | it says the package is broken... |
| 23:19.19 | abrotman | `ns`: they're all broken atm |
| 23:19.24 | blockd | cton: maybe paste the errors to a pastebin or #flood |
| 23:19.39 | cton | ok |
| 23:19.41 | liable | yay, new keyboard for my laptop. :) |
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| 23:20.28 | phasegen | i wonder if I have a good repository in sources.list |
| 23:20.37 | quest_ | has anyone istalled the 2200bg wireless card on debian? |
| 23:20.57 | abrotman | phasegen: why ? |
| 23:21.01 | abrotman | !ipw2100 |
| 23:21.01 | dpkg | hmm... ipw2100 is a wireless driver for certain intel wireless cards: 'apt-get install ipw2100-source', build with module-assistant. Download and install the firmware as you get told during install. For help try #ipw2100 or http://ipw2100.sourceforge.net. |
| 23:21.02 | `ns` | abrotman, broken ? testing seems to be working fine here |
| 23:21.09 | abrotman | `ns`: do you run kde ? |
| 23:21.18 | phasegen | it says the package is broken |
| 23:21.23 | abrotman | phasegen: huh ? |
| 23:21.31 | phasegen | yes, I run kde |
| 23:21.37 | abrotman | phasegen: not you .. |
| 23:21.40 | quest_ | abrotman, thank you |
| 23:21.43 | abrotman | phasegen: what package is broken ? |
| 23:21.46 | `ns` | abrotman, no .... I want my k7 to run like a k7 , not a 286 :) |
| 23:21.48 | Marticus | any thoughts on what kind of machine I might build to make a web host for host service providing? |
| 23:22.05 | abrotman | `ns`: kde is all kinds of messed up in etch right now |
| 23:22.09 | phasegen | 2.6-686 |
| 23:22.22 | abrotman | phasegen: the package is kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:22.28 | `ns` | abrotman, fluxbox is working just great |
| 23:22.29 | abrotman | phasegen: if you need to setup your sources .. apt-setup |
| 23:22.30 | phasegen | yes |
| 23:22.32 | cton | alright, i pasted the error lines in flood |
| 23:22.32 | abrotman | `ns`: heh |
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| 23:22.43 | bucky | `ns`: which kernel do you have? |
| 23:22.55 | phasegen | I just typed it in here that way because I'm no typist |
| 23:22.57 | newbie_ | how do install ffmpeg onto debian? |
| 23:23.04 | blockd | cton: one more time... |
| 23:23.30 | `ns` | bucky, /procs/version says ... Linux version 2.6.12-1-k7 (horms@tabatha.lab.ultramonkey.org) (gcc version 4.0.2 2 |
| 23:23.30 | `ns` | 0050917 (prerelease) (Debian 4.0.1-8)) #1 Tue Sep 27 13:22:07 JST 2005 |
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| 23:23.37 | phasegen | I pasted to the terminal what you typed earlier |
| 23:23.56 | blockd | newbie_: if on sarge: aptitude install ffmpeg, if not on sarge, couldn't say if it's broken |
| 23:24.00 | abrotman | phasegen: can you show me the error message ? |
| 23:24.07 | bucky | `ns`: a simple 2.6.12-1-k7 would have worked |
| 23:24.20 | phasegen | where would you like it? |
| 23:24.20 | newbie_ | blockd: I'm on sarge .. that's all? |
| 23:24.28 | abrotman | phasegen: #flood |
| 23:24.44 | blockd | newbie_: that's all I recall doing |
| 23:24.58 | `ns` | bucky, true, but it was harder to cut and paste ... I'm a little sloppy with the mouse |
| 23:25.07 | phasegen | it's there... |
| 23:25.10 | newbie_ | blockd: do you use ffmpeg? |
| 23:25.28 | cton | blockd, hey u there? |
| 23:25.36 | newbie_ | blockd: how do I test that it's installed/configured properly? |
| 23:25.46 | abrotman | phasegen: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list also |
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| 23:25.59 | cton | blockd, i can only see one channel at time since i'm using bitchx and i dont have a gui up |
| 23:26.00 | blockd | cton: yes |
| 23:26.01 | bucky | `ns`: well since your running sarge or unstable you should know how to look and see how many un-necessary kernel modules are being loaded by hotplug |
| 23:26.11 | bucky | or etch |
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| 23:26.30 | phasegen | it's there... |
| 23:26.40 | blockd | newbie_: I just use it as a dep for something else that I compiled from source |
| 23:26.51 | abrotman | phasegen: anyways . you're already on unstable |
| 23:26.56 | thc | haha |
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| 23:26.59 | `ns` | bucky, probably quite a few ... I just ignore that kinda stuff unless it causes problems |
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| 23:27.05 | abrotman | phasegen: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 .. see if that works better |
| 23:27.09 | thc | "how do i upgrade my sid to sid?" |
| 23:27.22 | newbie_ | blockd: okay.. after I install (success), do I need to configure php to recognize it? |
| 23:27.30 | abrotman | thc: hehe |
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| 23:27.38 | bucky | `ns`: running 60 MB of extra kernel modules slows it down a lot |
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| 23:27.58 | blockd | newbie_: ffmpeg? No idea... is this some sort of php library that needs it? |
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| 23:28.03 | thc | what i want to know is, how can you _not_ know you already upgraded |
| 23:28.18 | quest_ | abrotman, i can't find the package it requires (ipw2100-source) |
| 23:28.19 | phasegen | abrotman: well, what do I do? |
| 23:28.24 | newbie_ | blockd: I'd like to make it so my php scripts can use it.. but I haven't a clue where to begin. |
| 23:28.40 | abrotman | quest_: i think it's in contrib |
| 23:28.44 | abrotman | phasegen: apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 .. see if that works better |
| 23:28.51 | thc | phasegen: first of all, you install a kernel from sid, you're running a sarge kernel with sid packages |
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| 23:29.21 | phasegen | nope... |
| 23:29.26 | abrotman | same error ? |
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| 23:29.39 | EvilDebian | How can i check to see what processes are using which kernel modules? I'm trying to troubleshoot a no sound issue and modules won't unload |
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| 23:30.15 | phasegen | I tride apt-get upgrade |
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| 23:30.24 | phasegen | tried |
| 23:30.33 | abrotman | phasegen: apt-get update ; apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 23:30.43 | jelly | EvilDebian: if you find out, tell me I'd like to know too. However you CAN find out which process holds a device (like /dev/dsp*) with fuser. |
| 23:30.53 | newbie_ | blockd: where do php modules live on sarge? |
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| 23:31.01 | abrotman | EvilDebian: fuser might be able to tell you |
| 23:31.22 | abrotman | EvilDebian: though if you run lsmod .. it will tell you what is using that module .. jelly too |
| 23:31.31 | phasegen | now it's coming... |
| 23:31.41 | ne_ | How can i add http://www.backports.org/pending/Packages.gz to my apt sources? apt-get says E: Malformed line 6 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist). I don't want to give the name of a dist just add those file to the apt database. Is that possible ? |
| 23:31.45 | phasegen | that worked. |
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| 23:32.01 | Guerin | ne_: man sounrces.list |
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| 23:32.35 | abrotman | typo! |
| 23:32.37 | blockd | newbie_: maybe /usr/lib/php4 |
| 23:32.40 | jelly | abrotman: lsmod won't tell which pid or tid is using a particular module. |
| 23:32.44 | quest_ | abrotman, it says that in order to install ipw2200 i need kernel-source, but i have a precompiled kernel. i'm new so no expert. what can i do? |
| 23:32.51 | abrotman | jelly: no .. but it will tell you which modules are using which modules |
| 23:32.54 | newbie_ | blockd: cool, thanks |
| 23:32.59 | phasegen | abrotman: thank you. |
| 23:33.01 | abrotman | quest_: which kernel . uname -r |
| 23:33.01 | blockd | newbie_: if that's what you're looking for... |
| 23:33.09 | ne_ | Guerin SO it's not possible ? |
| 23:33.16 | ne_ | Guerin from what i read no |
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| 23:33.40 | quest_ | abrotman, 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 23:33.43 | phasegen | i'm on slow dialup got to go while I'm downloading... |
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| 23:34.11 | ne_ | Guerin Then why do they publish a Packages.gz ? How can modify the path so that it works ? |
| 23:34.11 | pok | hello all, anybody know if the mysql-4.1 server that apt installs has innodb support enabled by default? |
| 23:34.22 | bucky | quest_: use module-assistant |
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| 23:34.32 | quest_ | bucky, which is? |
| 23:34.40 | abrotman | quest_: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 |
| 23:35.05 | bucky | module-assistant auto-install ipw2200 |
| 23:35.05 | Guerin | ne_: if there's a packages.gz, it should be possible to add |
| 23:35.13 | newbie_ | blockd: getting this error: Warning: dl(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /var/www/ffmpeg/tests/test_ffmpeg.php on line 17 |
| 23:35.15 | abrotman | or listen to bucky :) |
| 23:35.29 | Guerin | ne_: but it's INCREDIBLY stupid to add pending - it's stuff that is NOT READY FOR USE |
| 23:35.48 | ne_ | Guerin I don't care i know what i'm doing |
| 23:35.49 | abrotman | Guerin: yes it is |
| 23:36.01 | abrotman | Guerin: it's the directory for current sarge backports .. they haven't moved them over yetr |
| 23:36.02 | Guerin | ne_: ok. Good luck. |
| 23:36.04 | ne_ | Guerin I don't want |
| 23:36.05 | quest_ | abrotman, downloading. but after will i lose my precompiled kernel, and i have to use the source? |
| 23:36.06 | thc | holy crap thanksgiving is this thursday? wtf!!!!!! |
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| 23:36.12 | ne_ | Guerin my computer tell me what to do :) |
| 23:36.20 | abrotman | quest_: listen to bucky .. not me |
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| 23:36.26 | EvilDebian | lsmod told me that snd-page-alloc was using snd so i unloaded those, but now the i810audio module won't unload |
| 23:36.29 | quest_ | bucky, downloaded. now what i should run to install that? |
| 23:36.37 | pok | ne_> Guerin Then why do they publish a Packages.gz ? How can modify the path so that it works ? |
| 23:36.38 | blondie | thanksgiving? haha |
| 23:36.44 | pok | doesn't look like you know what you're doing |
| 23:36.51 | bucky | module-assistant auto-install ipw2200 |
| 23:36.54 | Guerin | ne_: by reading man sources.list and looking at the directory sturucture, you should be able to infer the line |
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| 23:37.00 | ne_ | ok i found the syntax by myself deb http://www.backports.org/ /pending/, |
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| 23:37.15 | Guerin | ne_: right, that's what I wanted you to do for yourself |
| 23:37.22 | thc | blondie: yes, you know, the day that we celebrate the invasion of the white man. |
| 23:37.32 | blondie | thc: I know nothing about it (not american) |
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| 23:37.41 | ne_ | Guerin: that's sucks, the documentation doesn't provide example for this simple usage |
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| 23:38.02 | thc | blondie: it's a celebration of when the pilgrims first landed and had a feast with the unsuspecting indians. |
| 23:38.10 | blondie | I see |
| 23:38.20 | blondie | and then killed them? |
| 23:38.21 | dusk | okay, i setup fglrx, direct rendering is ON, so it works.. but.. it stays in 1024 rez.. I set the NoDCC option and I have only one screen rez set in xorg.conf... anyone have any ideas why I cant get my screen rez? |
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| 23:38.30 | EvilDebian | then we screwed them out of their land, killed them off with smallpox and alcohol and forced them onto reservations |
| 23:38.32 | EvilDebian | yay us |
| 23:38.33 | EvilDebian | :) |
| 23:38.39 | thc | blondie: no, they put the indians on reservations and let them run casinos. |
| 23:38.46 | blondie | i see |
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| 23:39.27 | thc | so i guess in reality, thanksgiving is really about celebrating gambling. |
| 23:39.33 | quest_ | bucky, installation failed. it says i have to had contrib in sources.list, but i did it. what can i do? |
| 23:39.57 | abrotman | quest_: did you run apt-get update .. after you added it ? |
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| 23:40.08 | blockd | newbie_: shared libs wouldn't be in there generally... |
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| 23:40.17 | bucky | quest_: since you're running sid you should know how to edit your sources.list |
| 23:40.29 | SimonRaven | EvilDebian: don't forget the bible. they showed up with whiskey in one hand, a (smallpox) blanket across their shoulders, and a bible in the other hand |
| 23:40.34 | quest_ | abrotman, yes. now it says i need the kernel headers |
| 23:40.35 | litage | what needs to be done to a HD that was previously in a RAID array and is going to be put into a different RAID array? |
| 23:40.47 | abrotman | quest_: so apt-cache search kernel-headers-2.6 |
| 23:40.48 | blockd | newbie_: there's php-ffmpeg which is a wrapper around ffmpeg. You might like that, but who knows. |
| 23:40.50 | abrotman | err |
| 23:40.53 | quest_ | bucky, i edited it, but i have the error after it |
| 23:40.53 | abrotman | linux-headers-2.6 |
| 23:40.56 | saloxin | litage: backup, reformat |
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| 23:41.42 | bucky | abrotman: he needs contrib in sources.list^^ .. he doesn't know how to do that |
| 23:42.06 | blockd | newbie_: I just mean if ffmpeg.so isn't php specific then it probably wouldn't be in there. But then I don't know if php has a special ffmpeg.so lib... |
| 23:42.13 | abrotman | bucky: he said he did it |
| 23:42.16 | quest_ | abrotman, is it the same linux-headers? because kernel-headers is just 2.4 |
| 23:42.16 | abrotman | !contrib |
| 23:42.16 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, contrib is debian packages that are free, but depend on non-free packages To get packages in contrib, lines like deb http://yourmirror/debian/ [testing|stable] main in your /etc/apt/sources.list need contrib on the end. |
| 23:42.36 | dusk | !vesa ddc |
| 23:42.38 | abrotman | quest_: what kernel again ? |
| 23:42.43 | quest_ | abrotman, i put contrib in sources.list |
| 23:42.58 | abrotman | quest_: did you run apt-get update after that ? |
| 23:43.00 | abrotman | linux-headers-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 23:43.02 | blockd | newbie_: rather ffmpeg-php |
| 23:43.20 | SimonRaven | fyi, native up here means several aboriginal groups, metis inuit, and first nations (first nations being 'amerindian', 'native american'). |
| 23:43.21 | litage | saloxin: i zero'd the HD, ext3-formatted it, added it to an existing RAID array, and mounted /var/log on it. however, when rebooting, an error came up saying it didn't have a valid ext2 superblock.. |
| 23:43.39 | abrotman | SimonRaven: but you're from greenland! |
| 23:43.54 | quest_ | abrotman, 2.6.12-1-686. and i run update. before the update i couldn't see the ipw2200 |
| 23:44.06 | SimonRaven | no, that's to the north east from here |
| 23:44.08 | saloxin | litage: md software raid? |
| 23:44.16 | litage | saloxin: yes |
| 23:44.36 | abrotman | quest_: so where are you stuck now ? |
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| 23:45.26 | saloxin | i think you'd mark it as raid with fdisk, and the format on the md device when it came up. but i'm too tired to check it out now |
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| 23:45.34 | jelly | litage: wait... why did you format the partition if it was to be used in an existing array? |
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| 23:45.56 | newbie_ | blockd: I tried apt-get install ffmpeg-php --> Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 23:45.56 | newbie_ | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 23:45.56 | newbie_ | E: Couldn't find package ffmpeg-php |
| 23:46.00 | litage | jelly: to get rid of any data that was on it |
| 23:46.33 | abrotman | !find ffmpeg sarge |
| 23:46.36 | melq | hello! i've been trying to mount -o loop /some/CD.iso /mount/point .... this is a command that has been given to me, doesn't work on sarge, and i'd like some explanations about the meaning and correct usage of this. |
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| 23:46.41 | blockd | newbie_: probably isn't in Debian then... I'm not sure why you need to load ffmpeg.so, so I can't really be of any help there |
| 23:46.50 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ffmpeg' (5 of 9): (/usr/bin/ffmpeg2raw) in graphics/smilutils ;; (/usr/bin/ffmpeg-config) in libdevel/libavcodec-dev ;; (/usr/lib/vlc/codec/libffmpeg_plugin.so) in graphics/vlc ;; (/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpegcolorspace.so) in libs/gstreamer0.8-misc ;; (/usr/share/doc/pike7.6-doc/html/reference/ex/predef_3A_3A/_Ffmpeg/ffmpeg.html) in doc/pike7.6-reference. |
| 23:46.51 | jelly | litage: a security measure? |
| 23:46.51 | MikeWasHere05 | hey guys |
| 23:46.55 | newbie_ | !find ffmpeg sarge |
| 23:47.02 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ffmpeg' (5 of 9): (/usr/bin/ffmpeg2raw) in graphics/smilutils ;; (/usr/bin/ffmpeg-config) in libdevel/libavcodec-dev ;; (/usr/lib/vlc/codec/libffmpeg_plugin.so) in graphics/vlc ;; (/usr/lib/gstreamer-0.8/libgstffmpegcolorspace.so) in libs/gstreamer0.8-misc ;; (/usr/share/doc/pike7.6-doc/html/reference/ex/predef_3A_3A/_Ffmpeg/ffmpeg.html) in doc/pike7.6-reference. |
| 23:47.05 | MikeWasHere05 | i'm trying to install debian on my laptop (HP Pavilion zv5000) |
| 23:47.10 | MikeWasHere05 | it's a dual boot with XP Home SP2 |
| 23:47.22 | MikeWasHere05 | i don't think it's detecting my wireless card tho |
| 23:47.26 | litage | jelly: not really. i just thought it'd be a good idea. either way, i zero'd (dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb11) the partition |
| 23:47.32 | MikeWasHere05 | it's a net install, and it can't resolve any of the servers |
| 23:47.43 | MikeWasHere05 | it's the amd64 port |
| 23:47.47 | abrotman | does it have a wired NIC ? |
| 23:48.05 | MikeWasHere05 | it has an ethernet port, yes. |
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| 23:48.33 | ddas | ragazzi qual è il comando per configurare x-windows? |
| 23:48.37 | jelly | litage: seems quite unnecessary, as the raid would take care of that if needed. |
| 23:49.03 | MikeWasHere05 | i _could_ do it that way, but then I would have to plug it in everytime i wanted to go on the net (which is all the time =p) |
| 23:49.06 | bloom | why does aptitude ask me how to solve various kinds of dependancy conflicts, (like asking me whether I want to remove gnucash so it can upgrade slib) when apt-get didn't and had perfectly sane behavior? |
| 23:49.12 | thc | !tell ddas about it |
| 23:49.15 | thc | !tell ddas about drxx |
| 23:49.16 | newbie_ | why can't I use "./configre" command on sarge/ |
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| 23:49.19 | ddas | what is the command for reconfigure xwindows? |
| 23:49.20 | ddas | what is the command for reconfigure xwindows? |
| 23:49.30 | thc | quit flooding dipshit, i just told you. |
| 23:49.32 | litage | jelly: i'll keep that in mind for the future. do you have any suggestions on what i can do about the boot error saying the partition doesn't have a valid ext2 superblock? |
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| 23:49.42 | EvilDebian | ugh ok alsaconf seems to think there's an intel810 sound chipset but it won't load the module |
| 23:49.46 | dusk | i just installed fglrx, set NoDCC to OFF, and I STILL am stuck in 1024 rez, can anyone help? |
| 23:49.56 | jelly | litage: format the raid device now. ;-) |
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| 23:50.24 | jelly | litage: the /dev/mdsomething |
| 23:50.31 | EvilDebian | should i be using alsa here or something else? |
| 23:50.53 | abrotman | !tell Elrond` about away |
| 23:51.01 | ddas | what is the command for reconfigure xwindows? |
| 23:51.06 | abrotman | !drxx ddas |
| 23:51.07 | dpkg | ddas: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 23:51.18 | Elrond` | sorry, that wasnt supposed to happen on this net |
| 23:52.10 | litage | jelly: so add the two [bad-superblock-]partitions to the raid array and format them with ``mkfs.ext3 /dev/mdX''? |
| 23:52.35 | MikeWasHere05 | alright, im doing the net-install wired |
| 23:52.36 | thc | where can i find out what xfonts-* package i am currently running, mine seems to have changed on it's own and i want to know which package it is |
| 23:52.37 | blondie|bed | Elrond`: shouldn't happen on ANY net :P |
| 23:52.42 | jelly | litage: yes. it does not matter what's on the partitions before you add them to the raid. |
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| 23:53.05 | bucky | EvilDebian: snd_intel8x0 is alsa the other is OSS you can't use both |
| 23:54.27 | newbie_ | why can't I run " ./configure " in sarge? |
| 23:54.28 | thc | newbie_: you can, in the directory of an app that has a configure script. |
| 23:54.29 | litage | jelly: thanks |
| 23:54.29 | bucky | you might have to blacklist intel8x0 and rmmod it and run alsaconf |
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| 23:54.31 | jelly | litage: and fix fstab maybe. |
| 23:54.32 | newbie_ | thc: I put ffmpeg in my web root, nav'd to that diretory, and tried it but it didn't work ... does a configure script ahve a particular name? |
| 23:54.50 | thc | newbie_: i have no idea, i only compile apps in my ~/ |
| 23:55.05 | EvilDebian | bucky, ok, i'm trying to use alsa. How do I get these out so I can use alsa? |
| 23:55.06 | litage | jelly: yep! that's a given :) |
| 23:55.15 | newbie_ | thc: maybe i should do that too> |
| 23:55.25 | newbie_ | thc: what dir is ~/ ? |
| 23:55.26 | thc | newbie_: what are you compiling and why? |
| 23:55.37 | thc | newbie_: home |
| 23:56.15 | newbie_ | thc: i don't know how to get ffmpeg (and ffmpeg-php) installed on my sarge box -- I'm a php dev but don't know mmuch of anything about linux -- incl "build"-ing, "configure"-ing, "make"-ing ...? |
| 23:56.17 | ben{} | newbie_: if your login is "foo", then ~ is /home/foo |
| 23:56.22 | newbie_ | thc: so I'm really struggling here. |
| 23:56.29 | thc | newbie_: apt-get install ffmpeg |
| 23:56.29 | newbie_ | ben{}: cool .. thx |
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| 23:56.34 | newbie_ | thc: did that |
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| 23:56.56 | newbie_ | thc: then I ran the test script provided and got this error: Warning: dl(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /var/www/ffmpeg/tests/test_ffmpeg.php on line 17 |
| 23:57.04 | bucky | EvilDebian: you might have to blacklist intel8x0 and rmmod it and run alsaconf |
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| 23:57.32 | Folis | anyone have a working mplayer link |
| 23:57.52 | thc | newbie_: did you verify that /usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so exists? |
| 23:57.55 | bucky | !tell Folis about marillat |
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| 23:58.49 | newbie_ | thc: it doesn't .. which is why I think apt-get install ffmpeg didn't configure properly -- all the docs I'm reading says there's a buncha command lines I should run -- the first being a "./configure" one. |
| 23:59.28 | blockd | newbie_: the ffmpeg doesn't come with ffmpeg.so AFAIK. Where are you reading about ffmpeg.so? |
| 23:59.44 | blockd | *the ffmpeg package |
| 23:59.47 | thc | newbie_: the configure options that the maintainer used should be exactly what you need. if if they aren't, purge the package and compile it from source using whatever options necessary |
| 23:59.56 | newbie_ | blockd/thc: their instal docs |
