| 00:00.04 | quest_ | bucky, i did something and seems it has installed. now what should i do in order to see the wireless network? |
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| 00:00.25 | newbie_ | thc: please, will you show me how to do that .. i'm very newb |
| 00:00.54 | thc | newbie_: download the source; untar it; cd to new directory; read the README/INSTALL files. |
| 00:01.04 | bucky | quest_: that's the fun part.. i would google for a howto |
| 00:01.30 | newbie_ | thc: but I'm going to get stuck on that ./configure line again, aren't I? |
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| 00:01.51 | thc | newbie_: in the new directory, no. as long as the app comes with a configure script, which it will. |
| 00:01.59 | newbie_ | okay.. |
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| 00:02.13 | quest_ | bucky, i can do that, or i can use knoppix for giving me the configuration. i have kwifimanager. but it doesn't even see the network |
| 00:02.26 | thc | newbie_: read the README/INSTALL before you even run ./configure |
| 00:02.57 | newbie_ | thc: okay .. and put it in /home/me .. right? |
| 00:03.09 | bucky | quest_: did it install the *.fw modules in /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/ ? |
| 00:03.13 | thc | newbie_: just download the source to your ~/ and untar it. |
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| 00:04.15 | thc | newbie_: it's a good idea to completely remove the ffmpeg package before you compile it. run "apt-get remove --purge ffmpeg" |
| 00:04.15 | B5Duster | Good day all |
| 00:04.22 | quest_ | bucky, that directory is empty |
| 00:04.30 | acid-trip | does anyone know how to script tcl for an eggy? |
| 00:04.50 | thc | acid-trip: #tcl might now |
| 00:04.50 | abrotman | acid-trip: google 'tcl tutorial; ? |
| 00:04.52 | MikeWasHere05 | hmm |
| 00:04.54 | MikeWasHere05 | i just did |
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| 00:05.02 | MikeWasHere05 | apt-get install xserver-common |
| 00:05.02 | black_Nightmare | ugh stupid stuffs to do bah...heh |
| 00:05.04 | newbie_ | thc: cool .. purged |
| 00:05.11 | B5Duster | I'm having issues getting my wusb54g linksys 802.11g usb converter working with debian |
| 00:05.11 | MikeWasHere05 | and i'm trying to configure it |
| 00:05.19 | thc | newbie_: unpack the source and read the documentation |
| 00:05.21 | MikeWasHere05 | xf86config doesn't work |
| 00:05.29 | MikeWasHere05 | it says command not found |
| 00:05.30 | B5Duster | I have a v4 device and I'm clueless about ndiswrapper - their list is confusing |
| 00:05.32 | thc | !tell MikeWasHere05 about xmd5 |
| 00:05.36 | abrotman | !drxx MikeWasHere05 |
| 00:05.37 | dpkg | MikeWasHere05: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:05.43 | MikeWasHere05 | gracias |
| 00:05.58 | thc | doh. wrong factoid |
| 00:06.03 | B5Duster | they mention a couple good open souce drivers but i don't see how ndiswrapper works with them as it's supposed to wrap windows drivers |
| 00:06.04 | newbie_ | thc: there are instructions for building "as a shared extension" and building "as part of the php binary" ... which one is the most versatile? |
| 00:06.05 | thc | i blame the eagles, for losing |
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| 00:06.19 | thc | newbie_: i honestly have no idea, never used that app. |
| 00:06.41 | EvilDebian | how do i blacklist a module |
| 00:06.56 | thc | !tell EvilDebian about blacklist |
| 00:07.12 | thc | that wasn't what you wanted heh |
| 00:07.15 | thc | or is it |
| 00:07.40 | EvilDebian | thc: what i'm trying to do is to unload a module that says it's busy |
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| 00:08.20 | bucky | EvilDebian: is esd running? kill it |
| 00:08.41 | EvilDebian | bucky, no |
| 00:08.56 | bucky | what's using it artsd? |
| 00:09.01 | EvilDebian | dunno |
| 00:09.09 | EvilDebian | lsmod doesn't tell me |
| 00:09.14 | SimonRaven | newbie_: you'll want shared extension. otherwise you'd have to rebuild php |
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| 00:09.42 | SimonRaven | ffmpeg.so is a 'shared extension' |
| 00:09.44 | abrotman | PaulGenez1975: you cannot speak .. stop trying |
| 00:09.54 | MikeWasHere05 | alright guys |
| 00:09.55 | MikeWasHere05 | i did |
| 00:09.59 | MikeWasHere05 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
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| 00:10.21 | thc | no dude |
| 00:10.22 | MikeWasHere05 | and all it did was ask me who should run X, and the nice value |
| 00:10.24 | quest_ | bucky, any clue? |
| 00:10.24 | thc | xserver-xfree86 |
| 00:10.32 | MikeWasHere05 | ahh, my bad |
| 00:10.34 | MikeWasHere05 | sorry about that |
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| 00:10.51 | newbie_ | thc: this page gives the instructions for installing: http://ffmpeg-php.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:11.17 | newbie_ | thc: but I don't know what /path/to/php_sources/ext is |
| 00:11.18 | thc | newbie_: what is it you need, that the Debian package did not do? |
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| 00:11.24 | bucky | quest_ google is your friend |
| 00:11.54 | newbie_ | thc: at the bottom of that link, it says "test the installation" .. which I did and got that .so file not found error |
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| 00:12.25 | thc | newbie_: what was the name of that file again |
| 00:12.30 | newbie_ | thc: I just wanna get thru this installation doc without errors |
| 00:12.34 | newbie_ | http://ffmpeg-php.sourceforge.net/ |
| 00:12.38 | thc | no, the *.so |
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| 00:13.03 | newbie_ | thc: Warning: dl(): Unable to load dynamic library '/usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so' - /usr/lib/php4/20020429/ffmpeg.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory in /var/www/ffmpeg/tests/test_ffmpeg.php on line 17 |
| 00:13.53 | SimonRaven | newbie_: it needs to be installed to that dir |
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| 00:14.12 | josh__ | hello |
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| 00:14.42 | SimonRaven | newbie_: then you add it to /etc/php4/*relevant_php_binary*/php.ini if it isn't there already |
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| 00:15.06 | bluefox83 | you guys offer support for apt-spy? |
| 00:15.08 | Lur_ | what does this error: Unrecognized host system name --prefix=. mean? |
| 00:15.52 | Gnea | bluefox83: if you pay us |
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| 00:16.44 | newbie_ | thc: still not letting me run that ./configure line |
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| 00:16.48 | quest_ | i was trying to have a resolution of 1400x1050 on dell latitude d505. i was trying to reconfigure the XF86Config-4. i didn't succed. then i deleted that file, and now i have a higher res than i had before. which file is xserxer reading? |
| 00:16.53 | anabain | how I do start CUPS? I've entered # cupsd and get this error: cupsd: Child exited with status 98! KDE Printer configuration complains about CUPS server connection; moreover, http://localhost:631 also returns error |
| 00:17.13 | newbie_ | thc: there's no file in there called 'configure' .. just one called 'config.m4' |
| 00:17.13 | Gnea | bluefox83: seriously though, what's the problem? |
| 00:17.23 | bluefox83 | i want apt-spy to make a list of the top 5 servers it tests |
| 00:17.32 | Gnea | ok |
| 00:17.35 | Gnea | did you read the manpage? |
| 00:17.36 | bluefox83 | but i don't understand how to use the -w |
| 00:17.50 | bluefox83 | yeah, but it looks a lil wierd O.o |
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| 00:18.10 | Gnea | hrm |
| 00:18.24 | bluefox83 | says you use the -w in tandom with the -i |
| 00:18.36 | bluefox83 | but doesn't really tell you how to go about doing that |
| 00:18.46 | psychonate | Hi, I'm trying to mount an NFS filesystem on another box, and I get this error: "mount: RPC: Program not registered." I'm not really sure what the problem is; I've mounted the same NFS many times before. |
| 00:18.49 | bluefox83 | specially since -i says to use it with -w |
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| 00:19.02 | abrotman | PaulGenez1975: GO AWAY |
| 00:19.16 | PaulGenez1975 | :( |
| 00:19.19 | Gnea | bluefox83: well what does -i say it does? |
| 00:19.21 | psychonate | Does anyone happen to know what the problem is? |
| 00:19.26 | abrotman | PaulGenez1975: oh .. sorry .. i thought you were banned :) |
| 00:19.26 | newbie_ | thc: see the ./configure line in that install doc? .. that's where I'm stuck ..? |
| 00:19.27 | Guerin | psychonate: do the troubleshooting section of the tldp.org NFS howto |
| 00:19.31 | abrotman | PaulGenez1975: why do you keep joining/leaving ?> |
| 00:19.32 | bluefox83 | Gnea, says it works in tandom with -w |
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| 00:19.43 | Gnea | bluefox83: that's it? |
| 00:19.53 | thc | newbie_: i'm not even in X and i can't detach and read the docs for you, sorry |
| 00:19.55 | bluefox83 | Gnea, they just point back to each other and say "use it with that!" |
| 00:20.00 | bluefox83 | or there-bouts |
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| 00:20.22 | newbie_ | thc: can I paste it in here somehow? |
| 00:20.22 | anabain | nobody uses CUPS? |
| 00:20.23 | sfullenwider | Anyone have any howto's or such to get YV12 Overlays and XVideo working in Xfree86? |
| 00:20.38 | thc | newbie_: what are you pasting |
| 00:20.57 | newbie_ | I was going to paste the dir contents and ./config error I was getting |
| 00:21.01 | PaulGenez1975 | i just need a busy irc channel to test this irc client im making, sorry if its annoying :S |
| 00:21.08 | thc | newbie_: /j #flood |
| 00:21.11 | bluefox83 | so far i figure i should make the command look something like this -> apt-spy -d unstable -a North-America -w 5 -1 /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 00:21.14 | abrotman | PaulGenez1975: try #flood |
| 00:21.21 | Gnea | bluefox83: have you looked in /usr/share/doc/apt-spy/ yet? |
| 00:21.25 | bluefox83 | but..last time i did that i got a really wierd output :/ |
| 00:21.53 | bluefox83 | no..woulda been nice if that had been in the stinkin manpage :/ |
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| 00:22.02 | dusk | if someone can help me with xorg/dri/fglrx it would ROCK |
| 00:22.05 | PaulGenez1975 | ok i'll try it out, thanks |
| 00:22.16 | diana | I have a windows partition that grub loads(i use windows sometimes)...but /etc/fstab doesn't see it...how can I make it see it? |
| 00:22.23 | Gnea | bluefox83: it's actually a standard debian documentation thing |
| 00:22.24 | thc | dusk: wait around for gravity, he's your man. |
| 00:22.31 | diana | I just want to mount the windows partition to grab a file |
| 00:22.35 | dusk | thc: alright, thx |
| 00:22.37 | thc | diana: you add it manually and run "mount -a" |
| 00:22.45 | Gnea | bluefox83: but, try that and see what happens |
| 00:22.47 | diana | thc: What do I add? |
| 00:22.54 | diana | thc: I don't know how to edit /etc/fstab |
| 00:23.02 | thc | diana: the correct parameters for you windows partition |
| 00:23.02 | diana | I know it's /dev/hda1 |
| 00:23.15 | thc | diana: make a mount point in /mnt |
| 00:23.15 | diana | thc: But what do I put in /etc/fstab? |
| 00:23.20 | diana | k |
| 00:23.29 | abrotman | diana: man fstab .. man mount |
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| 00:23.48 | bluefox83 | Gnea, yeah, that's great. has a TODO file, copyright file, a README.debian (which just gives a brief description of what apt-spy does) and a changelog |
| 00:23.52 | nixuser1 | how would i stop x server in debian sarge? |
| 00:24.02 | bluefox83 | Gnea, not much help in that department |
| 00:24.10 | Guerin | nixuser1: how did you start it? |
| 00:24.12 | Gnea | bluefox83: so you haven't run apt-spy update? |
| 00:24.22 | diana | /dev/hda1 /media/windows ntfs users,auto,umask=000 0 0 |
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| 00:24.25 | nixuser1 | it starts by default |
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| 00:24.32 | SimonRaven | *cough* man page |
| 00:24.35 | bluefox83 | nixuser1, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 00:24.36 | diana | Can anyone pm me their /etc/fstab line for their windows partition? |
| 00:25.01 | abrotman | diana: no .. it is dependant on your system |
| 00:25.02 | thc | diana: that's the line you need, "mkdir /mnt/windows" |
| 00:25.08 | nixuser1 | bluefox thanks |
| 00:25.16 | Gnea | nixuser1: do you want to stop it from starting everytime? |
| 00:25.17 | bluefox83 | Gnea, all that does is update it's list of possible servers to check, i need it to test those servers and make a list of the 5 fastest results |
| 00:25.25 | thc | diana: mount it at /mnt/windows in fstab |
| 00:25.31 | nixuser1 | no i want to install nvidia drivers |
| 00:25.32 | newbie_ | thc: i got booted :( |
| 00:25.40 | Gnea | cool |
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| 00:25.47 | thc | newbie_: /j #flood |
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| 00:26.43 | Gnea | bluefox83: well, it's been awhile since i've used this, so we're kinda on the same page.. i'm trying to figure it out |
| 00:27.03 | bluefox83 | Gnea, this would be so much easier if they had written a decent manpage =( |
| 00:27.17 | Gnea | bluefox83: no one paid them to do it. |
| 00:27.20 | anabain | is there anyone here who prints anything in debian? |
| 00:27.26 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 00:27.46 | bluefox83 | Gnea, actually there are people who develop this stuff and get paid to do it, just cus it's for linux doesn't mean it was all done for free |
| 00:28.07 | Gnea | bluefox83: your argument is useless and meaningless. This is *DEBIAN* |
| 00:28.27 | bluefox83 | Gnea, so |
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| 00:29.12 | SimonRaven | it's not even relevant to the problem |
| 00:29.13 | lur_ | I recieved an error that I don't quite understand |
| 00:29.25 | lur_ | Unrecognized host system name --prefix=. |
| 00:29.36 | lur_ | what should I replace prefix with? |
| 00:29.39 | nixuser1 | any good links for installing nvidia drivers, im getting a message saying kernel source tree not found, i have installed the kernel source files |
| 00:29.42 | Gnea | bluefox83: oh, so you don't need this help after all then... |
| 00:30.08 | bluefox83 | Gnea, i do need the help, and it is very much apreciated |
| 00:30.09 | blockd | lur_: it looks as if you're trying to configure a package... maybe. There's too little info to know what the problem is. |
| 00:30.19 | Gnea | bluefox83: then quit your bitching, please. |
| 00:30.20 | lur_ | ok, I will give ya what I typed |
| 00:30.32 | lur_ | s# /home/josh/DreamcastLinux/binutils-2.11.2/configure --target=$TARGET \ --prefix=$PREFIX |
| 00:30.32 | lur_ | Unrecognized host system name --prefix=. |
| 00:30.48 | lur_ | (last line is the error) |
| 00:31.23 | bbrazil | lur_: get rid of that backslash |
| 00:31.32 | lur_ | ok |
| 00:31.39 | blockd | could be just the line continuation... or is it? |
| 00:32.04 | lur_ | yeah |
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| 00:32.20 | lur_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.23 | lur_ | expr: syntax error |
| 00:32.24 | lur_ | Configuring for a i686-pc-linux-gnu host. |
| 00:32.24 | lur_ | config.sub: missing argument |
| 00:32.24 | lur_ | Try `config.sub --help' for more information. |
| 00:32.24 | lur_ | Unrecognized target system name . |
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| 00:32.47 | lur_ | did ya get that? |
| 00:32.53 | lur_ | kicked me for floodin |
| 00:32.57 | Gnea | !flood |
| 00:32.57 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:32.58 | bucky | !flood |
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| 00:33.03 | Gnea | lur_: hell yeah, you violated channel policy |
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| 00:33.18 | lur_ | that was the error I got. |
| 00:33.32 | bucky | lur_: what are you building and $TARGET isn't a valid system name |
| 00:33.43 | lur_ | ah hell |
| 00:33.52 | blockd | lur_: using a pastebin or #flood is a better way for multiple lines |
| 00:33.56 | lur_ | I am using a guid on linuxdevices |
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| 00:34.14 | lur_ | to make linux for dreamcast |
| 00:34.23 | lur_ | well "make" |
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| 00:34.53 | sylvain | hi. i used apt-cdrom's "add" feature to have my linux dvd (mounted as a cdrom) added in sources.list |
| 00:34.55 | bluefox83 | Gnea, i *think* i got it, if i'm right then all i needed was apt-spy -d unstable -a North-America -w 5 |
| 00:35.02 | ivanneto | How can I delete the configuration files (purge) of a package I've already removed? |
| 00:35.06 | blockd | lur_: the config script might not be very robust for all I know... |
| 00:35.11 | sylvain | the thing is, when i apt-get install something, i'm still asked to insert a DVD in the drive! |
| 00:35.34 | lur_ | want a link to the step of the guide I am on? |
| 00:35.47 | sylvain | oh man. i meant: my ISO on the hard disk, mounted as a cdrom |
| 00:35.55 | lur_ | http://www.linuxdevices.com/articles/AT7875554667.html |
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| 00:36.31 | Gnea | bluefox83: hrm, that might be it... |
| 00:36.49 | blockd | lur_: are you sure $TARGET is actually set to anything? That might possibly explain why it's complaining about the prefix there... |
| 00:37.01 | blockd | what does "echo $TARGET" say? |
| 00:37.02 | lur_ | what exactly is $TARGET |
| 00:37.05 | lur_ | let me see |
| 00:37.11 | bluefox83 | Gnea, biggest problem though, is that it takes ages to benchmark each server...so it will probably take a while to create the final list |
| 00:37.18 | lur_ | uhm...nothing |
| 00:37.25 | Gnea | bluefox83: yeah, that's normal |
| 00:37.34 | blockd | lur_: then that's your problem :) |
| 00:37.40 | lur_ | ah |
| 00:37.43 | lur_ | what ought it say |
| 00:37.44 | dude | fh |
| 00:37.49 | dude | kk |
| 00:37.52 | dude | lld |
| 00:37.56 | Gnea | bluefox83: yeah, -i seems to be implied when update is run |
| 00:37.57 | blockd | lur_: I don't know... it depends why you're setting it |
| 00:38.02 | jelly | bluefox83: so rewrite the app to be multithreaded. |
| 00:38.11 | Gnea | bluefox83: /var/lib/apt-spy/mirrors.txt is what it's looking for |
| 00:38.15 | bluefox83 | jelly, that would require re-writing apt |
| 00:38.19 | dude | f |
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| 00:38.35 | bluefox83 | Gnea, yeah, i don't think you need to use -i at all.. |
| 00:38.47 | Gnea | bluefox83: agreed |
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| 00:38.56 | blockd | lur_: the article you linked to exports it at the top... if it doesn't explain why, then you'll probably need to look for more info as to why |
| 00:39.15 | lur_ | what does it export? |
| 00:39.22 | bluefox83 | is it just me or is it just assinine to put useless triggers into something like that? |
| 00:39.34 | blockd | lur_: TARGET |
| 00:39.40 | Gnea | nah, it's just flexible |
| 00:39.43 | lur_ | so...I am a bit lost |
| 00:39.56 | blockd | lur_: (not yelling or anything, that's just the environment variable) |
| 00:40.07 | lur_ | yeash I got ya |
| 00:40.24 | lur_ | so what am I supposed to do? |
| 00:40.34 | lur_ | lol |
| 00:40.39 | bucky | which is prolly detected automatically so why define it |
| 00:40.50 | bucky | is this a cross compile? |
| 00:41.17 | lur_ | bucky, was that directed at me? |
| 00:42.04 | blockd | it was |
| 00:42.09 | lur_ | I am compiling toolsfor making a linux distro for dreamcast |
| 00:42.32 | lur_ | no not the tools for making it |
| 00:42.37 | lur_ | let me start over |
| 00:42.53 | dude | test this |
| 00:42.57 | dude | whois dude |
| 00:43.09 | lur_ | I want to run linux on my dreamcast. I downloaded the files and am followwing a tutorial |
| 00:43.38 | Gnea | dude, you exist |
| 00:43.45 | Gnea | ;) |
| 00:44.36 | Gnea | bluefox83: wow, i'm really topping out here... |
| 00:44.39 | Gnea | SERVER: ftp.us.debian.org |
| 00:44.42 | jelly | hey dude, don't make it bad; take a sad script and make it better |
| 00:44.44 | Gnea | Benchmarking HTTP... |
| 00:44.48 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:45.06 | bluefox83 | whoa! :O |
| 00:45.38 | Gnea | but that's still kinda hokey, considering ftp.us.debian.org is 4 different hosts |
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| 00:45.51 | bluefox83 | heh |
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| 00:45.55 | bluefox83 | so it's combining them? |
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| 00:46.02 | Agrajag- | does anyone know what header sensible mail clients that have "reply to mailing list" look for? |
| 00:46.05 | Gnea | it's round-robin |
| 00:46.19 | yrashk | Hi, has somebody tried to use sarge on HP Compaq NX6110 ? |
| 00:46.41 | Gnea | what it means is that it takes the hostname that has the least dns requests at the time and pushes the ip with the least connections to the client, or something like that |
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| 00:46.52 | Zerial | hi |
| 00:46.55 | lur_ | so I need to set PATH to somethin? |
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| 00:46.58 | Gnea | i could be wrong |
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| 00:47.21 | Zerial | anybody can see http://zerial.org/syslog.txt ... this message is a error for bad ram or some problem with the ram 'memory' ?? |
| 00:47.23 | jelly | Agrajag-: maybe those from the RFC? List-Post? |
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| 00:48.17 | bluefox83 | Get:4 http://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu unstable/main Sources [1086kB] :O ! |
| 00:48.26 | Mask | When I try to "apt-get upgrade", I am told that e2fsprogs will be temporary removed because of a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. Then, when apt tries to do this, it tells me "Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs". What should I do? |
| 00:48.28 | Agrajag- | jelly: ah yep. ok the one i was looking at had that one mangled.. which i didn't notice. thanks |
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| 00:49.05 | Gnea | gatech's had one of the BEST pipelines in the country for nearly a decade now, perhaps even longer |
| 00:49.21 | bluefox83 | Get:1 http://ftp-linux.cc.gatech.edu unstable/main coreutils 5.93-5 [2865kB] 8O ! |
| 00:49.50 | Gnea | bluefox83: are the results worth it? ;) |
| 00:49.50 | bluefox83 | i didn't know my dl speed could go that fast! |
| 00:49.56 | Gnea | hahahaha |
| 00:50.02 | bluefox83 | Gnea, yeeeaaaaaaaahhhh! |
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| 00:50.48 | bluefox83 | Gnea, doesn't hurt that i'm in florida either...lol |
| 00:51.24 | jelly | bluefox83: unfortunately, what you paste is not speed(bandwidth), but file size. |
| 00:51.38 | seven_six_two | Hello. I am trying to get sarge installed on an asus a8v mobo with a sata drive. the only problem i'm getting is the nic. it's a yukon gigabit onboard, and requires the sk98lin module. I can't seem to get the module installed though. there is a new on on the web for this chipset, but the old sk98lin module is stuck and i can't remove it |
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| 00:51.57 | bluefox83 | jelly, sh!t you're right 8( |
| 00:52.09 | Gnea | seven_six_two: modprobe -r sk98lin ? |
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| 00:52.15 | bluefox83 | should prolly read that a lil closer next time huh >.> |
| 00:52.26 | jelly | bluefox83: the bottom line shows speed. |
| 00:52.27 | seven_six_two | the lights are not even on on my nic or router. Mandrake installed and works no problem, albeit it's the mdk x86_64 |
| 00:52.47 | seven_six_two | Gnea, FATAL: Module sk98lin is in use |
| 00:52.57 | Gnea | seven_six_two: then deactivate the interface |
| 00:53.05 | Gnea | seven_six_two: ifconfig eth0 down |
| 00:53.23 | jelly | seven_six_two: you sure you need SysKonnect's driver, and not tg3? |
| 00:53.25 | meff | seven_six_two: my p5ld2 has a sk98lin card also, the kernel sk98lin driver does not support all of the chipset revisions .. you need to download the module from syskonnect.com and build it. |
| 00:53.32 | bluefox83 | Fetched 113MB in 3m8s (600kB/s) <--you mean like that :D |
| 00:53.43 | bluefox83 | Baloo, O.o whah? |
| 00:53.47 | Gnea | bluefox83: much bettah |
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| 00:54.01 | bluefox83 | Gnea, that's still a kick-ass speed ^_^ |
| 00:54.09 | Baloo | bluefox83: are you bennet fox? |
| 00:54.12 | seven_six_two | meff, That's what I'm trying to do. Gnea thanks. I'll try again now. i got it out. |
| 00:54.18 | bluefox83 | Baloo, no i'm bluefox83 |
| 00:54.30 | Baloo | bluefox83: Well, Bennet Fox is a blue fox, which is why I asked. :o) |
| 00:54.44 | bluefox83 | oh, well i dunno bennet fox |
| 00:55.08 | bonz | Baloo: but is blue fox a bennet fox? |
| 00:55.41 | diana | Thanks a lot for the help thc. |
| 00:55.44 | diana | I appreciate it. |
| 00:55.50 | Baloo | bonz: Don't think so. |
| 00:55.52 | bonz | like a falconis a bird, but not all birds are falcons :) |
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| 00:56.12 | seven_six_two | ok. I got the new module in, and reactivated the card, but no networking still |
| 00:56.23 | Baloo | Grand Theft Auto: Fort Vancouver, WA would be an interesting game. |
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| 00:57.07 | bluefox83 | seven_six_two, try /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 00:57.12 | seven_six_two | I got the light to come on on the router though. that's a good start |
| 00:57.17 | Mask | So, can anyone help me with my apt problem? |
| 00:57.19 | bonz | Baloo: we dont have a fort vancouver in Western Australia :P |
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| 00:57.27 | bluefox83 | Mask, what apt problem? |
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| 00:57.38 | Mask | When I try to "apt-get upgrade", I am told that e2fsprogs will be temporary removed because of a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. Then, when apt tries to do this, it tells me "Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs". |
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| 00:57.48 | Mask | Because of this, I can not upgrade |
| 00:57.53 | Baloo | bonz: fort-vancouver.wa.us, not .wa.au |
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| 00:58.07 | bluefox83 | O.o |
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| 00:58.21 | seven_six_two | nope. nothing |
| 00:58.22 | bluefox83 | Mask, what the heck is e2fsprogs and what does it do? |
| 00:58.31 | bonz | Baloo: ahh something you didn't previously state :P |
| 00:59.01 | Mask | Well, "apt-cache show e2fsprogs" tells me that it's the "ext2 file system utilities and libraries" |
| 00:59.02 | bonz | bluefox83: frommemory things like mkfs.ext2 etc |
| 00:59.14 | SimonRaven | bluefox83: it's a package... |
| 00:59.21 | SimonRaven | !info e2fsprogs |
| 00:59.28 | dpkg | e2fsprogs: (ext2 file system utilities and libraries), section admin, is required. Version: 1.38-2 (sid), Packaged size: 514 kB, Installed size: 1416 kB |
| 00:59.30 | Baloo | bonz: I figured the netmask and the predominantly north american crowd in channel at the moment gave it away |
| 00:59.50 | stew | Mask: /msg dpkg e2fsprogs loop |
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| 01:00.01 | seven_six_two | ifconfig says Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 01:00.08 | Jmax | which is better and why: chown the directories on the server so that the scripts ran by apache (user www-data) can mkdir and mv, or make apache run as the user they are already owned by? |
| 01:00.31 | bonz | Baloo: americans are everywhere, don't mean the rest of us have been brainwashed yet |
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| 01:01.07 | Baloo | bah, whatever. |
| 01:01.10 | MikeWasHere05 | erm |
| 01:01.12 | Jmax | i would think that changing apache user would be better and easier |
| 01:01.13 | MikeWasHere05 | i installed blackbox |
| 01:01.17 | MikeWasHere05 | later decided i'd rather have KDE |
| 01:01.23 | Mask | Thank you stew |
| 01:01.26 | MikeWasHere05 | so i couldn't figure out how to uninstall blackbox |
| 01:01.30 | Jmax | but what are the conqeuences of running apache as another user? |
| 01:01.35 | MikeWasHere05 | I went to a terminal window (via blackbox) |
| 01:01.39 | MikeWasHere05 | apt-get remove blackbox |
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| 01:01.43 | resiak | MikeWasHere05: apt-get remove blackbox not easy enough? /msg dpkg enter |
| 01:01.53 | MikeWasHere05 | now it automatically boots to a glitchy blackbox |
| 01:02.15 | MikeWasHere05 | how can I get it to boot to no window manager whatsoever |
| 01:02.23 | bonz | Jmax: theoretically you should only need the files in group www-=data with read/write for group enabled |
| 01:02.53 | Jmax | bonz: hmm can you give me an example or faq? |
| 01:03.16 | Jmax | i have little experience with user admin |
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| 01:03.44 | bonz | Jmax: really depends on your use of /var/www & how the data is being updated |
| 01:04.10 | bonz | if you're doing it via smb, it can be quite a headache |
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| 01:04.42 | Jmax | bonz: i think that idea is best, but how do i get user "files" and user "www-data" to have "joint" permissions? ie. do i just chgroup? |
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| 01:05.19 | Jmax | bonz: and should i chgrp user "files" to group "www-data" or chgrp user "www-data" to group "files"? |
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| 01:06.44 | bonz | Jmax: if you place the bulk of the data to the www-data group then you need only addgroup each user too the www-data group for then too access the files theoretically |
| 01:06.58 | Jmax | ah |
| 01:06.58 | Jmax | okay |
| 01:07.18 | SimonRaven | yes, but you want to avoid www-data file ownership... make another group |
| 01:08.12 | bonz | yes don't limit yourself too one group |
| 01:08.21 | Jmax | hm okay |
| 01:08.37 | Jmax | addgroup wwwfiles |
| 01:08.42 | SimonRaven | i have 3 or 4 just for that kind of thing... |
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| 01:08.44 | Jmax | how do i then add the two users to wwwfiles? |
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| 01:09.03 | bonz | you could also have the file ownedby www-data & in different groups if you have gadzillion users |
| 01:09.23 | bonz | really depends on your situation & your intentionsfor the future |
| 01:09.42 | schippes | hotplug network device initialization is really messy in debian, traking down what happens inserting a cardbus wlan: kernel calls hotplug, which calls default.hotplug which calls net.agent which calls net.ifup which execs ifup which reads interfaces .... hundreds of lines to perform a 3 line script task .... |
| 01:09.50 | Jmax | i just want to make all files in a folder to two different users |
| 01:09.54 | MikeWasHere05 | so is there a way to skip debian from automatically booting into my window manager? |
| 01:09.55 | Jmax | rw |
| 01:10.10 | stew | MikeWasHere05: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 01:10.15 | Jmax | without making them world-read/writeable |
| 01:10.16 | jelly | schippes: eh... who cares if it "just works"? |
| 01:10.31 | MikeWasHere05 | yeah but i can't run any commands |
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| 01:10.38 | MikeWasHere05 | because my window manager is bugged out |
| 01:10.44 | Phated | Ctrl-Alt-F1? |
| 01:10.46 | bonz | MikeWasHere05: you could dpkg --purge <offending dm here> |
| 01:10.46 | stew | MikeWasHere05: hit ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 01:10.59 | MikeWasHere05 | during boot-up? |
| 01:11.06 | stew | MikeWasHere05: no, after |
| 01:11.14 | MikeWasHere05 | ok, i just did that |
| 01:11.15 | joesboxd3b | i am having a problem playing audio cd's. i have added myself to cdrom and audio but no luck... can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 01:11.19 | MikeWasHere05 | now it's like |
| 01:11.19 | Phated | ... to switch to a console from X. |
| 01:11.31 | schippes | no it does not work for a new atheros card since the driver creates a wifi0 device but a ath0 virtual device must be created using a wlanconfig command, only on this nework device can accept ifconfig configuration. |
| 01:11.39 | MikeWasHere05 | not rendering the text right |
| 01:11.44 | MikeWasHere05 | it's just scrolling it down the screen |
| 01:11.47 | bonz | joesboxd3b: try logging out & backin |
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| 01:11.49 | MikeWasHere05 | imagine matrix text-ish |
| 01:11.56 | joesboxd3b | will do |
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| 01:12.04 | joesboxd3b | brb with the resaults |
| 01:12.06 | schippes | so the whole hotplug bunch of script is perfectly useless |
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| 01:12.30 | stew | MikeWasHere05: log in and type reset |
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| 01:13.04 | bonz | typically disk devices also belong too the disk group |
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| 01:13.24 | bonz | but hes gone already |
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| 01:13.56 | _gass_ | hello |
| 01:14.08 | abrotman | thc: i told that guy to use #flood for his join/part retardism .. he was doing it here |
| 01:14.31 | _gass_ | anyone here with amuleweb and amuled with a slow transfer page in amuleweb, when the list is too big? |
| 01:14.58 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 01:14.58 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:15.32 | Dr_Fie | ICKY ICKY |
| 01:15.35 | Dr_Fie | :-/ |
| 01:15.38 | MikeWasHere05 | when i rebooted after the scrolling text it didn't boot the WM =) |
| 01:15.41 | Dr_Fie | i'm like... i'm trying to use kde and stuff |
| 01:15.49 | Dr_Fie | it calls daemons "services" |
| 01:15.53 | Dr_Fie | >:P icky icky |
| 01:16.08 | Dr_Fie | and it's so bloated |
| 01:16.10 | Dr_Fie | .sigh. |
| 01:16.14 | bluefox83 | Dr_Fie, icky is right, why on earth would you use kde!?!?! blegh! |
| 01:16.17 | ke6isf | Dr_Fie: So don't use KDE. |
| 01:16.28 | Dr_Fie | meh.. but i dont use it.. so i have to use it |
| 01:16.29 | Dr_Fie | heh |
| 01:16.40 | abrotman | oh that makes no sense |
| 01:16.49 | Dr_Fie | experience |
| 01:16.54 | Dr_Fie | experience is what it's about |
| 01:16.56 | ke6isf | !confuse Dr_Fie |
| 01:16.57 | dpkg | No, where are our gerbil tomorrow, Dr_Fie? lederhosen of the dictatorship of mongolia with extra cream |
| 01:17.01 | Dr_Fie | i'm setting up a 3 distro system |
| 01:17.03 | kjetilho | I'm trying to install Debian on a computer with neither CDROM nor network, so I wanted to use PPP to a computer next to it. but I can't quite get it to work. anyone here set up PPP before? |
| 01:17.11 | Dr_Fie | debian open bsd and something else |
| 01:17.16 | Dr_Fie | commas are for noobs :P |
| 01:17.29 | bonz | oh no a wm war |
| 01:17.33 | abrotman | !commasmite Dr_Fie |
| 01:17.49 | Dr_Fie | !confuse Dr_Fie |
| 01:17.50 | dpkg | No, what is your badger tomorrow, Dr_Fie? pants of the democracy of mongolia with extra cheese |
| 01:18.32 | ke6isf | !tell Dr_Fie -about msg the bot |
| 01:18.37 | ke6isf | Man, I see where this one's going. |
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| 01:22.15 | thc | abrotman: what guy? |
| 01:22.48 | abrotman | thc: paulgenerz1975 or whatever it is |
| 01:22.57 | thc | oh haha |
| 01:23.02 | kode4u | anyone know which php based web mail program? |
| 01:23.08 | thc | i ignored joins/parts when i got in there anyway |
| 01:23.14 | abrotman | kode4u: which what ? |
| 01:23.35 | kode4u | abrotman, sorry en is not my native language. |
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| 01:23.52 | abrotman | no kidding :) |
| 01:23.56 | abrotman | kode4u: there are a few |
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| 01:24.01 | kode4u | abrotman, could u introduce me to a web mail program. |
| 01:24.07 | abrotman | horde/imp is one |
| 01:24.09 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:24.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 01:24.40 | TwistedEmotions | deadcat: You there? |
| 01:24.54 | kode4u | abrotman, is it multi-language? |
| 01:25.15 | KerPlunk | kode4u: apt-get install mozilla-thunderbird |
| 01:25.25 | abrotman | kode4u: i believe it is |
| 01:25.32 | abrotman | KerPlunk: that's not what he asked for |
| 01:25.46 | bluefox83 | they still make thunderbird? |
| 01:25.47 | kode4u | yes |
| 01:25.49 | kode4u | :) |
| 01:25.51 | bluefox83 | wow |
| 01:26.01 | bluefox83 | i thought it was fazed into being firefox |
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| 01:26.25 | kode4u | abrotman, KerPlunk, thanks u guys! |
| 01:26.30 | kode4u | :) |
| 01:26.32 | jelly | Firefox was bloody made to be JUST a browser. |
| 01:26.34 | abrotman | bluefox83: firefox is a browser .. thunderbird is a mail client |
| 01:26.46 | bluefox83 | abrotman, ooooooooh... |
| 01:26.49 | jelly | unlike bloody mozilla "suite" |
| 01:27.28 | jelly | There should be definite articles sparsed lightly above, shouldn't there. |
| 01:28.44 | kjetilho | shame, there is no #unixgurus on freenode :/ |
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| 01:29.59 | black_Nightmare | any of you know about orangemicro pci cards for pc? |
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| 01:30.17 | abrotman | kjetilho: #unix ? |
| 01:30.41 | kjetilho | abrotman: viz. the UF strip referenced by pkg recently. |
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| 01:31.27 | Phated | \o/ UF |
| 01:31.48 | black_Nightmare | reason is I tried look up the packages search engine and it shows no result :-/ |
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| 01:32.23 | riba | hello.... |
| 01:34.11 | SimonRaven | Phated: tansi |
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| 01:34.49 | hyso | Hi |
| 01:34.54 | robin_sz | hi |
| 01:35.05 | bonz | medium |
| 01:35.20 | hyso | I've just installed a special edition of debian sarge that has all the packages updates |
| 01:35.20 | robin_sz | hmmm ... bold or italic? |
| 01:35.32 | bonz | when the fan is on hi. it gets too windy |
| 01:35.33 | riba | does anyone know if the autoreconf script is maintained at present? |
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| 01:35.47 | robin_sz | good point. |
| 01:35.50 | hyso | but apt have only the dvd as repository, where can I find the most common repositories? |
| 01:36.03 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 01:36.11 | hyso | abrotman, ok thanks |
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| 01:36.56 | robin_sz | and then just edit the sources list by hand, its the one true way. |
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| 01:37.18 | hyso | robin_sz, yeah, I have no problem with that, thanks :) |
| 01:37.43 | bonz | robin_sz: one true way or only true way? |
| 01:38.16 | robin_sz | bonz: well, it depends ... on what you edit it with ... vi or someting else. |
| 01:38.19 | hyso | I find debian really good in performance |
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| 01:38.37 | hyso | I've just tried suse 10 in this pentium 3 and performance was horrible |
| 01:38.40 | bonz | robin_sz: ahhof course |
| 01:38.49 | hyso | but debian runs really ok |
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| 01:39.26 | robin_sz | could I add ... its freezing cold outside, but I'm sat by a nice log fire, with a glass of sherry, a mince-pie and cream, a cat by my feet and a warm laptop :) |
| 01:39.40 | bonz | robin_sz: I guess you're probably not an echo "content for sources.list>/etc/apt/sources.list then |
| 01:39.40 | robin_sz | all is well with the world ... |
| 01:39.55 | bonz | fan that is |
| 01:40.06 | kjetilho | sounds more like echo "content with life" >> /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 01:40.29 | robin_sz | too damn right :) |
| 01:40.43 | bonz | kjetilho: if you want too screw up apt |
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| 01:41.24 | pigor | hi :-) where can i tell x.org which graphics driver it schould use ? |
| 01:41.30 | bonz | that'd probably give an error at line yaddayadda -1 from eof |
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| 01:42.12 | bonz | robin_sz: that a dead cat? |
| 01:42.27 | robin_sz | not yet |
| 01:42.37 | jelly | meow |
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| 01:43.32 | Elly | does apt have quake 1? |
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| 01:43.38 | robin_sz | mmmm ... no. makes a mess on the carpet. |
| 01:44.17 | bonz | Elly: does quake abide by all the necesary debian rules for inclusion? |
| 01:44.22 | Elly | it's GPLed? |
| 01:44.24 | Elly | does that count? |
| 01:44.41 | robin_sz | quake 2 is in ... |
| 01:44.52 | Elly | no, quake2-data is in |
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| 01:45.02 | Elly | quake 2 itself is not |
| 01:45.06 | robin_sz | Elly: and quake2 |
| 01:45.08 | Elly | which is irritating because gentoo has packages for all of these |
| 01:45.12 | Elly | no such package as 'quake2' here |
| 01:45.15 | bonz | Elly: not alwaysunfortunately, a search with your favourite search engine canprobably confirm your suspicions though |
| 01:45.17 | robin_sz | quake2 - improved version of id Software's Quake II engine |
| 01:45.36 | Elly | aptitude search quake |
| 01:45.40 | Elly | shows exactly 1 hit: quake2-data |
| 01:45.47 | bonz | Elly: other people make debs for non-free stuff though |
| 01:46.00 | blockd | you still need to buy quake for the WAD files |
| 01:46.17 | robin_sz | well, apt-cache search quake shows the engine 2, so I win. |
| 01:46.33 | kode4u | which mail server program u commonly choose? |
| 01:46.40 | robin_sz | qmail |
| 01:46.43 | benley | ewwww qmail |
| 01:46.59 | robin_sz | I know .. I know ... |
| 01:47.07 | Elly | does debian at least have a VisualBoyAdvance build? |
| 01:47.11 | Elly | argh, no it doesn't |
| 01:47.15 | bonz | I find eximis a bit nicer then sendmail |
| 01:47.31 | robin_sz | but i never figured out how to use exim with vpopmail |
| 01:47.36 | kode4u | is it efficiency? |
| 01:47.54 | hyso | and why is not quake 3 in apt? |
| 01:48.04 | TwistedEmotions | When making a symbolic link you use the link -s right ? |
| 01:48.06 | Elly | why isn't VisualBoyAdvance in apt? |
| 01:48.11 | bonz | robin_sz: why would you need too, it's an mta not a pop client |
| 01:48.25 | robin_sz | bonz: and vpopmail is what exactly? |
| 01:48.36 | abrotman | Elly: check debian.org/devel/wnpp/ |
| 01:48.46 | kjetilho | kode4u: there aren't much difference in efficiency. the load comes from SpamAssassin etc., not the e-mail server itself |
| 01:48.51 | bonz | I run qpopper for pop3 delivery & fetchmail for the oppossite end |
| 01:48.57 | robin_sz | bonz: and vpopmail is what exactly? |
| 01:49.03 | kjetilho | kode4u: I recommend Exim, it's very versatile |
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| 01:49.37 | bonz | robin_sz: imguessing its a lame script for stripping mail off sites like hotmail |
| 01:49.48 | kode4u | oh, kjetilho, "apt-get install exim-base" to install it? |
| 01:49.51 | robin_sz | bonz: very lame guess |
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| 01:49.59 | enerv | j #debian-br |
| 01:50.01 | enerv | sorry |
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| 01:50.05 | robin_sz | bonz: its a virtual domain email hosting solution |
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| 01:50.10 | TwistedEmotions | Can someone tell me how to make a symbolic link? link -s isnt the right command.. |
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| 01:50.12 | bonz | robin_sz: ahh well :) |
| 01:50.24 | robin_sz | bonz: it does for email what vhosts do for apache |
| 01:50.25 | SerajewelKS | TwistedEmotions: ln -s |
| 01:50.33 | bonz | again nothing to do with an mta :) |
| 01:50.43 | robin_sz | no, everytin to do with an MTA |
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| 01:51.50 | bonz | robin_sz: ahh well for muyltiple domains I used sendmail & after that eximwas nice :) |
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| 01:53.17 | TwistedEmotions | SerajewelKS: ty... dumb ass mistake ;) |
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| 01:57.15 | michael | I have just downloaded konquerer and it's running well. I would like to implement it as my default desktop manager (currently I'm running ROX filer with enlightenment). How can I make konquerer now the default one? |
| 01:57.36 | abrotman | michael: you mean you want KDE ? |
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| 01:59.07 | michael | abrotman: no I don't want to use KDE ... there is no workaround to that? Like using Enlightenment and Konquerer? |
| 01:59.19 | Seb | what's that kind of address in freenode joins/parts: @unaffiliated/thisorthat ? |
| 01:59.22 | abrotman | michael: which desktop are you using ? |
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| 01:59.31 | abrotman | Seb: it's a cloak |
| 01:59.48 | Seb | michael: open an xterm in enlightenment, type konqueror. Or make an enlightenement "shortcut", whatever that may be |
| 02:00.03 | michael | abrotman: uhm... ROX (if that's a "desktop") ? |
| 02:00.29 | abrotman | rox is a file manager afaik |
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| 02:00.41 | michael | abrotman: what is a desktop then? |
| 02:00.54 | abrotman | michael: what is your window manager ? |
| 02:01.06 | michael | abrotman: enlightenment |
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| 02:01.27 | abrotman | michael: ask #e ... i guess .. i'm really not sure .. i haven't used E .. since like .. 1998 :) |
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| 02:01.42 | michael | abrotman: hehe ... what do you use then? |
| 02:01.49 | abrotman | michael: gnome or blackbox |
| 02:02.16 | michael | abrotman: hmm gnome is quite nice, too.... never heard about blackbox though |
| 02:02.28 | abrotman | michael: you've heard of fluxbox or openbox ? |
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| 02:02.49 | michael | abrotman: fluxbox sounds like "heard once", yea... |
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| 02:03.03 | sfullenwider | is there a good mirror for apt-get? is ftp.us.debian.org saturated? |
| 02:03.09 | abrotman | michael: blackbox is what fluxbox and openbox are derived from |
| 02:03.13 | abrotman | sfullenwider: apt-setup |
| 02:03.48 | michael | abrotman: I see. What makes blackbox so special? |
| 02:04.02 | abrotman | michael: it was just the first window manager that i really used |
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| 02:04.48 | bob2 | sfullenwider: 'host ftp.us.debian.org' |
| 02:05.01 | Seb | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:05.07 | bob2 | sfullenwider: it's 4 machines with more bandwidth than god |
| 02:05.13 | bob2 | sfullenwider: also, ww.debian.org/mirrors/ |
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| 02:06.15 | Fluten | i have a nfs mount that went bad, so i remounted it, and root can list the directory, and when i try to do it with my user, it says "stale nfs handle" |
| 02:06.23 | michael | abrotman: I see... well I'm kind of stuck. I used enlightenment for so long (the stable version) but it's never been like I really wanted it ... |
| 02:06.34 | abrotman | michael: well .. try other stuff |
| 02:06.40 | Fluten | how do i get it to stop saying that it's stale? |
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| 02:07.12 | blal | I'm trying to get mutt working with the Maildir format (qmail). I put "set mbox_type=Maildir", etc. in ~/.muttrc, yet mutt always checks /var/mail/username for mail. What is going on? |
| 02:07.33 | sfullenwider | ftp.us.debian.org is sitting there...has been for more than five minutes...without reaction, where as a ping to nickserv gets .28 seconds |
| 02:07.39 | abrotman | blal: don't you have to tell it where Maildir is ? |
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| 02:07.43 | bob2 | blal: tell it to check somewhere else |
| 02:07.49 | michael | abrotman: sure, but can I just apt-get install new stuff and don't have to worry about anything? Like if I'd install kde/blackbox/unameit all I have to change is the .xsession file in my $HOME, right? |
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| 02:08.09 | bob2 | blal: e.g., set mbox="~/mail/incoming/" |
| 02:08.14 | abrotman | michael: depending how you launch X .. it's possible |
| 02:08.20 | bob2 | and, see, I didn't even rip on qmail |
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| 02:08.24 | bob2 | I hope everyone is proud |
| 02:08.45 | blal | abrotman : bob2 : I also have 'set folder="~/Maildir/"' . Is that what you're referring to? |
| 02:08.45 | michael | abrotman: hmm okay, that's done through xdm afaik, yes |
| 02:08.54 | bob2 | no |
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| 02:09.11 | bob2 | just setting MAIL=~/whateva/ should work, too |
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| 02:09.32 | BlackEntity | One quick question... Why is it cdrecord never seems to like recent kernels? |
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| 02:09.40 | abrotman | michael: i think so |
| 02:09.50 | abrotman | bob2: can you please :) |
| 02:09.56 | sylvain | good evening.. i'm using gnome and the resolutions available don't go above 800x600. i know for sure my adapter&screen can handle at least 1200*768 or so |
| 02:10.05 | blal | abrotman : bob2 : Hot damn. export MAIL=/home/user/Maildir did the trick. |
| 02:10.15 | thc | !drxx sylvain |
| 02:10.19 | dpkg | sylvain: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:10.19 | bob2 | BlackEntity: how so? |
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| 02:10.36 | ctp | hi folks. a little off topic. @english native speakers: what do you associate hearing the word 'lodgingplace' as first association? |
| 02:10.42 | blal | abrotman : bob2 : Many thanks. |
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| 02:10.50 | abrotman | ctp: hotel/motel |
| 02:10.50 | BlackEntity | Everytime, every distro... "cdrecord has unresolved issues with 2.4 kernels and later, please use Solaris" I installed solaris once, it still wasn't enough |
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| 02:11.14 | BlackEntity | I even installed 2.4 butmy debian on't boot with it |
| 02:11.21 | BlackEntity | doesn't* |
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| 02:11.38 | dusk | ctp: sorta like a hotel |
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| 02:11.57 | BlackEntity | Now this probelme works on both my laptop and desktop |
| 02:11.59 | bob2 | ctp: it's not a very common idiom |
| 02:12.05 | bob2 | BlackEntity: that's not an error |
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| 02:12.16 | Nurbs | BlackEntity: it works fine on recent kernels. ignore Schillings talk |
| 02:12.16 | bob2 | BlackEntity: it's a stupid warning put in there because the cdrecord author is a cock |
| 02:12.18 | BlackEntity | Well, it's not good |
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| 02:12.44 | BlackEntity | ok well --scanbus doesn't work and neither does, and program that requires it |
| 02:12.53 | ctp | abrotman: great! that's the association i need ;-) some people said, they associate a kind of hunter's cabin ;-) |
| 02:13.11 | abrotman | ctp: .. no .. that's a Lodge :) |
| 02:13.14 | sylvain | many thx |
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| 02:13.38 | BlackEntity | as root, as well, and everytime a funky error |
| 02:13.40 | bob2 | BlackEntity: nothing should be using scanbus with ide drives, anyway |
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| 02:13.47 | bob2 | BlackEntity: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso |
| 02:13.48 | BlackEntity | uh |
| 02:14.03 | ctp | bob2: i need a nice domainname for renting hotels and provate accomodations. so, lodging was the right word in my mind for the domainname. |
| 02:14.16 | ctp | abrotman: ah, ok. thx |
| 02:14.22 | Diggit1 | can anyone recommend an FTP client that has a drag-n-drop interface? Is there a linux port or filezilla ? |
| 02:14.29 | BlackEntity | Let's try that |
| 02:14.33 | bob2 | Diggit1: the gnome and kde file managers both do ftp |
| 02:14.36 | abrotman | ctp: babelfish might be able to help you translate . or #english |
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| 02:15.01 | Diggit1 | bob2: do they also do sftp ? |
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| 02:15.27 | bob2 | nautils does |
| 02:15.31 | bob2 | konq does fish, at least |
| 02:15.37 | ctp | abrotman: but the word lodgingplace, does it exist as a word the people use? google shows me only 100 hits. |
| 02:15.38 | Diggit1 | bob2: are you talking about konquerer or fish? |
| 02:15.44 | Ace | anyone know how i can do a netinst with a netgear wireless nic? |
| 02:15.57 | bob2 | Ace: not simply |
| 02:15.59 | Diggit1 | bob2: thans |
| 02:16.04 | abrotman | ctp: not really |
| 02:16.20 | ctp | abrotman: ok. there's no #english on irc ;-) |
| 02:16.24 | BlackEntity | on another note, I was wondering why Debian decided to use gnome by default...? (i'm not a gnome hata I can't stand KDE and all I use is gnome) |
| 02:16.25 | abrotman | oh .. i thought there was |
| 02:16.41 | abrotman | ctp: i guess there used to be .. sorry |
| 02:16.46 | kjetilho | ctp: use just "lodging" |
| 02:16.57 | dondelelcaro | BlackEntity: we don't even use it by default, it just happens to be what gets installed by the desktop task |
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| 02:17.09 | BlackEntity | well that's what I meatn |
| 02:17.25 | BlackEntity | and desktop is selected by default so |
| 02:17.27 | dondelelcaro | BlackEntity: you'll find that "default" in Debian doesn't mean anything. |
| 02:17.30 | ctp | kjetilho: no free domains lodging[a-zA-Z] |
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| 02:17.47 | BlackEntity | It used to be KDE and gnome were installed |
| 02:17.51 | kjetilho | ctp: huh? |
| 02:18.00 | liable | how can i get /dev/dsp2 to go to /dev/dsp? |
| 02:18.00 | mathieu | i'm using a conversion utility having problems with accentation ... é is being exported as é does anyone know what might be happening É |
| 02:18.01 | mathieu | ? |
| 02:18.24 | bob2 | liable: symlink? ;p |
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| 02:18.34 | Ace | anyone know how i can do a netinst with a netgear wireless nic? |
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| 02:18.47 | kjetilho | mathieu: looks like UTF-8 |
| 02:19.05 | benley | mathieu: welcome to character encoding hell! |
| 02:19.09 | dondelelcaro | BlackEntity: as far as I know, both are installed still; it just defaults to starting gnome. In any case, it does that because whoever set up the tasksel and specified the dependencies thought it was the right thing to do. |
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| 02:19.11 | bob2 | Ace: not simply |
| 02:19.23 | bob2 | Ace: if the kernel has built-in support for it, it may work |
| 02:19.27 | bob2 | if not, welcome to pain country |
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| 02:19.34 | BlackEntity | ok, well anyways, it's just gnome now |
| 02:19.37 | stew | Ace: what chipset does it use? |
| 02:19.47 | BlackEntity | unless i'm crazy! |
| 02:19.49 | xpato | exists a tool to check the speed of memory acces? |
| 02:19.59 | Ace | •stew• i think it is on etheros |
| 02:21.23 | bob2 | atheros will not work from the normal installer |
| 02:21.27 | bob2 | perhaps someone modified it to do so |
| 02:21.28 | liable | bob2: heh, i was thinking that, but doesnt work. |
| 02:21.28 | stew | Ace: it won't be easy then, your opitons are to make a custom netinst (/msg dpkg custom netinst) or to boot a livecd and install with debootstrap (/msg dpkg debootstrap) |
| 02:22.58 | mathieu | benley: kjetilho i'm trying to load this data into mysql, but when i do the accentation is lost and i have this potential utf8 endoding instead |
| 02:23.04 | Ace | thanks for the advice |
| 02:23.38 | benley | mathieu: the easiest thing to do may be to get everything working in utf-8 |
| 02:24.00 | kjetilho | if it's a single computer, I definitely recommend converting to UTF-8 sooner rather than later |
| 02:24.17 | benley | ubuntu is shipping with utf-8 as the default encoding nowadays. |
| 02:24.23 | benley | It seems to be a reasonable thing to do. |
| 02:24.28 | mathieu | so dpkg-reconfigure locales ? |
| 02:24.35 | BlackEntity | Not to be noobish but can someone give me an example of using mkisofs with multiple dirs? |
| 02:24.36 | mathieu | how do i convert my system ? |
| 02:24.37 | bob2 | it should be a release goal for etch |
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| 02:25.10 | benley | mathieu: I haven't tried doing it on debian yet, so I dunno :-P |
| 02:25.13 | kjetilho | mathieu: have you used French letters in filenames? |
| 02:25.32 | kjetilho | (hmm, that came out a bit bawdy) |
| 02:26.02 | mathieu | kjetilho: yes i just did touch é.txt |
| 02:26.09 | mathieu | kjetilho: and ls listed it |
| 02:26.17 | mathieu | kjetilho: properly |
| 02:26.34 | kjetilho | right, because that's the main problem. there is no charset tagging in the filesystem, so you need to be consistent about it |
| 02:26.53 | benley | mathieu: your terminal is probably in the C locale if you have not changed it |
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| 02:26.54 | kjetilho | the filenames must match whatever $LC_CTYPE is set to |
| 02:27.07 | kjetilho | (locale | grep LC_CTYPE) |
| 02:27.11 | benley | if LC_CTYPE is unset it defaults to C, right? |
| 02:27.16 | benley | er, wait. |
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| 02:27.25 | mathieu | kjetilho: LC_CTYPE="en_US" |
| 02:27.28 | benley | I guess debian sets it to whatever you chose in the install process. |
| 02:27.32 | kjetilho | benley: it defaults to $LANG |
| 02:27.39 | benley | ok. |
| 02:27.53 | koshnaranek | apt-get update seems to alter the default locale, run dpkg-reconfigure to fix it |
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| 02:28.32 | litage | should an iptables rule that allows established connections through be at the beginning or end of its respective rules list? (ie: start or end of, say, tcp_in) |
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| 02:29.08 | sfullenwider | is there another site like linuxvideo.org or is linuxvideo.org just down? |
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| 02:29.15 | liable | meh, i have to use sox, looks like. |
| 02:29.26 | abrotman | litage: ask #iptables |
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| 02:31.54 | daemonic | I can't get my second processor recognized. I installed an smp 2.6 kernel using apt and it doesn't show up under cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 02:31.57 | daemonic | anyone have any ideas? |
| 02:32.23 | abrotman | daemonic: uname -a |
| 02:32.45 | daemonic | abrotman: it says smp |
| 02:32.51 | abrotman | that's not what i asked |
| 02:33.15 | daemonic | abrotman: let me apt gpm real quick so I can paste the output |
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| 02:33.35 | abrotman | daemonic: /exec -o uname -a |
| 02:33.44 | daemonic | Linux SK8 2.6.8-2-686-smp #1 SMP Thu May 19 17:27:55 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 02:33.44 | SlayerXP | daemonic: do you have a dual processor system? or do you have Hyperthreading? |
| 02:33.49 | mattpj | anyone know why when i try and burn a cd it tells me cannot read medium but it can read burnt cd is the writer bad? |
| 02:33.56 | daemonic | SlayerXP: old dual processor system |
| 02:33.56 | abrotman | daemonic: see ... wasn't that easy :) |
| 02:34.03 | abrotman | daemonic: how old ? |
| 02:34.09 | daemonic | abrotman: dual p2's |
| 02:34.21 | jelly | wow |
| 02:34.21 | abrotman | daemonic: does the BIOS see both ? |
| 02:34.23 | daemonic | abrotman: when the bios comes up it sees both processors |
| 02:34.41 | abrotman | daemonic: and /proc/cpuinfo only sees one ? |
| 02:34.48 | daemonic | abrotman: yes. just one |
| 02:34.59 | abrotman | daemonic: it's numbered 0 right ? |
| 02:35.12 | daemonic | abrotman: yes. there's processor 0 but not 1 |
| 02:35.32 | abrotman | daemonic: check dmesg for a hint |
| 02:35.33 | SlayerXP | daemonic: do you have any boot parameters set? |
| 02:35.37 | daemonic | abrotman: last time I installed linux on this machine (quite a while ago) slackware saw both processors |
| 02:35.47 | jstevens | working on a "Testing" system... friend ran "synaptic" update and now X fails to load... need some help trying to figure out what happened |
| 02:36.00 | mattpj | daemonic u might need to setup manually |
| 02:36.06 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:36.06 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 02:36.20 | abrotman | jstevens: check the X log in /var/log/ |
| 02:36.25 | SlayerXP | jstevens: running "synaptic update" would have no effect on the installed packages |
| 02:36.53 | jstevens | SlayerXP; it would update / change configs :-) |
| 02:37.00 | daemonic | abrotman: are you in #flood ? |
| 02:37.06 | abrotman | yep |
| 02:37.07 | bonz | If I want too generate animage for woody what would be the point too rsync from within a mirror too get everything need for the i386 arch? |
| 02:37.21 | daemonic | abrotman: output pasted there.. any ideas on that? |
| 02:37.42 | abrotman | daemonic: i've never seen such a thing .. try a 2.4-smp |
| 02:37.45 | jstevens | abrotman: yeah, I'm looking in the error log, and am finding stuff like "No symbols found for libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o |
| 02:37.49 | daemonic | abrotman: ok |
| 02:38.12 | abrotman | bonz: image for woody ? |
| 02:38.46 | abrotman | jstevens: that doesn't sound good |
| 02:38.55 | jstevens | abrotman: (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory) is one of the ones that worris me, but I don't remember details on that. |
| 02:39.18 | abrotman | jstevens: maybe load a module for AGP ? |
| 02:39.25 | bonz | abrotman: yup half my network runs on woody boxes who currently get the security updates individually |
| 02:39.36 | SlayerXP | jstevens: "modprobe agpgart" |
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| 02:39.50 | abrotman | bonz: have you tried apt-proxy ? |
| 02:39.58 | bonz | I'd rather just update one mirror on a regular basis & let the updates filter through that way |
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| 02:40.22 | sfullenwider | Anybody know where to get help getting xfree86 to use xvideo? |
| 02:40.26 | bonz | abrotman: yup was using 1.3 till I mistakenly upgraded too version 2 & broke everything |
| 02:40.40 | abrotman | oh |
| 02:41.17 | abrotman | bonz: so now you want to setup your own woody repository ? |
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| 02:41.32 | bonz | abrotman: doesn't help that the author of the twisted code got killed in an mva |
| 02:41.55 | metaperl | ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable --- I dont want any colors for LS and I am tired of seeing this... how to get plain ls listings? |
| 02:42.01 | abrotman | bonz: wasn't that like .. two years ago ? |
| 02:42.10 | jstevens | still says (EE) GARTInit: Unable to open /dev/agpgart (No such file or directory) |
| 02:42.28 | bonz | abrotman: yup |
| 02:42.32 | abrotman | jstevens: when you modprobe agpgart .. what does it say ? |
| 02:42.48 | jstevens | abrotman: it just returned a blank line |
| 02:43.01 | abrotman | ok |
| 02:43.08 | bonz | abrotman: I spend most of my time bush away from net connections which is another reason for having a reasonable mirror |
| 02:44.18 | bonz | ie I dont want too go & grab something via apt-proxy too discover nothing has downloaded it in the past so I have too wait 9months till I next make a connection too the net |
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| 02:44.46 | abrotman | bonz: why not just grab 3.0r6 CDs ? |
| 02:44.56 | abrotman | bonz: and security updates since i suppose |
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| 02:46.06 | huile | stuck! is there a text-only web browser in debian? |
| 02:46.15 | abrotman | lynx and links |
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| 02:46.22 | bonz | abrotman: when you are the only user on your network for thousands of k's security aint much of an issue :) |
| 02:46.39 | abrotman | bonz: wtf .. computational cluster? |
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| 02:47.04 | bonz | abrotman: bofhgn :) |
| 02:47.09 | abrotman | ? |
| 02:47.13 | abrotman | gn ? |
| 02:47.15 | jstevens | abrotman: any Idea how an update could have caused this.. |
| 02:47.32 | bonz | eventually it will have a linkup too the net but no time soon |
| 02:47.33 | abrotman | jstevens: lots .. but none that i've experienced .. |
| 02:47.49 | jstevens | abrotman: LOL, cool, NP |
| 02:47.53 | bonz | abrotman: globabl network |
| 02:48.03 | abrotman | jstevens: dmesg have anything useful ? |
| 02:48.05 | abrotman | bonz: oh ok |
| 02:48.13 | kjetilho | victory! when using ttyS0 with pppd, remember to say "local" (you didn't need that with cua0) |
| 02:48.14 | bonz | arrgh, /me shoots his typist & drops ded |
| 02:48.17 | jstevens | abrotman: not that I could find |
| 02:48.43 | jstevens | abrotman: I think I'm gonna have to reboot it and look @ dmesg again. |
| 02:48.50 | abrotman | ok |
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| 02:51.44 | sfullenwider | Why does debian use xfree86 as opposed to xorg's xwindow server? |
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| 02:52.17 | abrotman | sfullenwider: that's only in sarge |
| 02:52.26 | Guerin | sfullenwider: at the time of sarge's release, xorg was not deemed stable |
| 02:52.37 | Guerin | sfullenwider: xorg is now default in both testing and unstable |
| 02:53.06 | atrophic | I'm looking for something that changes the desktop background in ubuntu to a random image at a specific interval. Does anything like that already exist? |
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| 02:53.16 | Guerin | atrophic: ask #ubuntu |
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| 02:53.40 | jstevens | abrotman: vesafb: probe of vesafb0 failed with error -6 |
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| 02:53.51 | jstevens | abrotman: does that mean anything related to X? |
| 02:53.58 | abrotman | well .. it could ... |
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| 02:56.25 | sfullenwider | I go off and leave linux for 4 years and you bastards go and change everything |
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| 02:56.44 | sfullenwider | :) |
| 02:56.51 | cast | sfullenwider: woody still get security updates doesnt it? :> |
| 02:57.20 | sfullenwider | hell I think woody was unstable when I left. |
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| 02:58.15 | abrotman | !woody |
| 02:58.15 | dpkg | from memory, woody is the previous stable release of Debian, version 3.0, released July 19, 2002. Ask me about "woody->sarge" or "sarge install guide" Security updates for woody will cease approximately one year after sarge's release(July/2006) |
| 02:58.27 | abrotman | sfullenwider: and no .. sid is always unstable |
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| 02:59.12 | sfullenwider | It's exceedingly difficult when I remember things were done one way and now there are all kinds of configuration packages that previously would require a recompile...It's difficult to restrain myself from going back to the old model..trying to update myself is quite frustrating. |
| 02:59.35 | sfullenwider | 2005-4=2001 which is before 2002 which would have made what is known as woody, sid, at the time. |
| 03:00.01 | kjetilho | what are the minimum requirements for Sarge? I have a Woody installation with just 16 MiB RAM and 170 MB harddisk, does it make sense to upgrade? |
| 03:00.32 | cast | kjetilho: i think sarge would fit :x |
| 03:00.47 | SlayerXP | kjetilho: there's an old saying: if it isn't broken, don't fix it. |
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| 03:01.27 | cast | SlayerXP: and another...if its not patched its not yours |
| 03:01.31 | abrotman | sfullenwider: i think you mean woody was testing |
| 03:01.54 | valdyn_ | kjetilho: i dont see which new feature in sarge you would certainly benefit from. |
| 03:02.02 | SlayerXP | cast: "not patched" would be classed as "broken" |
| 03:02.10 | sfullenwider | I don't remember there being three different versions...I may be wrong but I just don't remember a stable, testing, and unstable, just a stable and unstable. |
| 03:02.19 | kjetilho | valdyn_: well, it'd have to be security updates |
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| 03:02.35 | jelly | SlayerXP: is not broken if nobody broke in |
| 03:02.36 | valdyn_ | kjetilho: ...which woody is still getting |
| 03:02.36 | Guerin | sfullenwider: that's how it was, ages ago |
| 03:02.41 | cast | would 2.6 run harder then 2.4? |
| 03:02.43 | kjetilho | valdyn_: yes, for the time being |
| 03:03.21 | jelly | sfullenwider: welcome to 2003 then. ;-) |
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| 03:03.26 | sfullenwider | well It's been 4 years. 3 of that without internet access of any kind. |
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| 03:03.34 | kjetilho | valdyn_: the other advantage is more consistency in my network, it's better to use just one OS version. |
| 03:03.41 | Guerin | sfullenwider: jail? |
| 03:03.45 | abrotman | woody was the first 'testing' |
| 03:03.52 | jelly | sfullenwider: somehow I envy you, but I know I shouldn't... |
| 03:03.52 | valdyn_ | kjetilho: true |
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| 03:04.07 | dude | Does mwilson still show up here? |
| 03:04.13 | Guerin | dude: banned |
| 03:04.38 | sfullenwider | No. moved out to the country... so far out there wasn't even phone service...ironically you could have cellphones if you lived within a few miles of a highway |
| 03:04.41 | dude | Mwilson Banned, really!?!?! :) :) :) |
| 03:04.52 | Guerin | sfullenwider: nice. |
| 03:04.57 | dude | Guerin: when did that happened? |
| 03:05.03 | Guerin | dude: couple months ago |
| 03:05.03 | abrotman | a month or so ago |
| 03:05.11 | Guerin | my internal clock is fucked |
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| 03:05.18 | Guerin | it could be last week or last year |
| 03:05.21 | dude | does anyone have the transcipts, I remember he seemed to be pointlyess rude |
| 03:05.23 | jelly | Guerin: install ntp. |
| 03:05.35 | Guerin | dude: i don't know if people care enough |
| 03:05.40 | dude | abrotman: who banned him, and why? |
| 03:05.44 | Guerin | jelly: pass me the brain saw |
| 03:05.55 | dude | Guerin: i care because I remember constantly having to ignore him |
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| 03:06.02 | jelly | Guerin: running a diary might patch it perhaps? |
| 03:06.12 | dusk | !summon gravity |
| 03:06.13 | dpkg | apt takes out 20 clean, identical-looking phones, some extra hands, and pretends to be a telemarketer for a large corporation, so he gets delivered a phonelist containing gravity's coordinates |
| 03:06.26 | Guerin | dude: helix, for just being mwilson as you remember him |
| 03:06.46 | bonz | abrotman: I thought woody wC[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[C[Cas the first unstable |
| 03:06.47 | SlayerXP | helix banned him? muahahaha |
| 03:06.47 | dude | Guerin: heh, thanks. i wonder where he hangs out now |
| 03:06.54 | karsten | So, say I've got a couple of SCSI drives, and they've got several partitions, and LVM is in use, and I'm trying to figure out which partitions are part of which PVs and LGs. What do I do? |
| 03:07.00 | thc | what the fuck was that? |
| 03:07.03 | karsten | helix: Greets. |
| 03:07.11 | Guerin | bonz: replace your keyboard, or hack off your hands |
| 03:07.15 | thc | haha |
| 03:07.18 | thc | !beer Guerin |
| 03:07.19 | abrotman | bonz: sid has always been unstable |
| 03:07.29 | bonz | arrgh |
| 03:07.30 | abrotman | !sid |
| 03:07.30 | dpkg | the unstable version of Debian. Commonly [and wrongly] backronymed Still In Development. It's actually named for the destructive neighbour kid in Toy Story. Ask me about unstable. Do not use sid unless you have the skill to find your way out of the mess that broken packages may put you in. It will never be released. |
| 03:07.40 | Guerin | abrotman: and Eastasia has always been at war with Eurasia |
| 03:07.58 | karsten | abrotman: It's actually "Sid in development" |
| 03:08.03 | Guerin | bonz: i see you're going for the pirate thing. That typically only requires the hacking off of ONE hand |
| 03:08.05 | jelly | Guerin: words out of my mouth |
| 03:08.12 | abrotman | Guerin: yay |
| 03:08.17 | dude | abrotman: what a wonderfull things, I wonder if there is anyway to look him and find out if he is some where here |
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| 03:08.27 | abrotman | dude: /whois ? |
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| 03:08.31 | bonz | Guerin: I'll settle for the lead pill in the shape of a bullet delivered at high velocity |
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| 03:09.10 | cast | dude: you could message everyone on freenode, at once, and ask |
| 03:09.18 | jelly | dude: do you have masochistic tendencies? |
| 03:09.27 | karsten | Guerin: Interesting WRT mwilson. I guess he always was a right bastard..... |
| 03:09.32 | lfs__ | I am pasting to flood, can someone be so kind as to look there. |
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| 03:09.41 | karsten | !tell lfs__ about paster |
| 03:09.44 | dude | cast: how would I do that? |
| 03:09.52 | dude | jelly: yes, you could say masochistic |
| 03:09.55 | dude | spelling? |
| 03:09.59 | Catch`CoNdA | Why do I have to run alsaconf every single time I boot up the computer, it always chooses some sound chip, who does not work. |
| 03:10.00 | karsten | lfs__: Where are you flooding? |
| 03:10.02 | Guerin | dude: just /msg lilo k-line me now for my own good |
| 03:10.03 | thc | i miss mwilson, he was such a happy person. he brought joy to this channel. |
| 03:10.06 | Guerin | dude: that'd be quicker |
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| 03:10.23 | karsten | thc: Heh... |
| 03:10.24 | bonz | ueI'm already down too one handed typing which is the cause of my problem |
| 03:10.37 | abrotman | bonz: put the beer down |
| 03:10.41 | thc | bonz: you'll get hairy palms if you keep doing that |
| 03:10.47 | Guerin | Catch`CoNdA: add the correct sound module to /etc/modules |
| 03:11.06 | bonz | where is mwilson? |
| 03:11.12 | jelly | dude, sorry, my speling is deteriorating with age. |
| 03:11.32 | abrotman | bonz: /whois mwilson |
| 03:11.39 | bonz | abrotman: no beer just amedical mishap back in 89 |
| 03:11.58 | abrotman | bonz: i was joking |
| 03:12.26 | lfs__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:12.46 | cast | i think he likes us :D |
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| 03:13.29 | bonz | abrotman: I figured as much |
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| 03:14.52 | liable | yay, bots |
| 03:14.54 | thc | lfs__: uh, what are you trying to do |
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| 03:15.00 | thc | all i see is a list of packages |
| 03:15.04 | Catch`CoNdA | Guerin, thanks mate |
| 03:15.07 | tsuyoshi | anyone know how to install grub onto a drive that is currently slave but will be master? |
| 03:15.08 | lfs__ | Should I just force removal of all those woody packages? |
| 03:15.29 | lfs__ | My main problem is the desktop I have now sucks big time. |
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| 03:15.48 | thc | tsuyoshi: use a grub floppy, or chroot and run grub-install |
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| 03:16.01 | abrotman | Lennon^: don't do that |
| 03:16.04 | kjetilho | tsuyoshi: edit /boot/grub/device.map |
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| 03:16.08 | bonz | I used too know how too do that with lilo & redev, but not anymore |
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| 03:16.21 | bonz | arrgh rdev rather |
| 03:16.27 | bonz | try man rdev |
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| 03:16.30 | liable | lfs__: you have upgraded from woody>sarge? (or tried i spose is a better word) |
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| 03:16.37 | kjetilho | tsuyoshi: (then run grub-install) |
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| 03:17.00 | lfs__ | I am in the twilight zone between woody and sarge |
| 03:17.07 | lfs__ | Some potato maybe also. |
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| 03:17.08 | abrotman | so finsih the upgrade |
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| 03:17.30 | liable | lfs__: oh, you were here yesterday with a different nick? |
| 03:17.41 | bonz | lfs__: sounds like a nice mix, why not chuck in some bo & ham :) |
| 03:17.47 | jelly | lfs__: I say, if you have glibc 2.3.2 something, you've stepped over to the dark side. |
| 03:17.56 | dude | THANKS ALL AND GOOD NIGHT. BIT ABOUT MWILSON BEST NEWS ALL DAY |
| 03:17.57 | lfs__ | That is me TOM THUMB |
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| 03:18.05 | lfs__ | I got that kseg program to work. |
| 03:18.12 | liable | heh |
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| 03:18.15 | worthawholebean | How can I get dependencies of a .deb file? |
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| 03:18.27 | abrotman | worthawholebean: apt-cache depends ? |
| 03:18.29 | jelly | dpkg --info that.deb |
| 03:18.33 | abrotman | worthawholebean: oh .. you downloaded it ? |
| 03:18.45 | worthawholebean | yeah |
| 03:18.53 | abrotman | worthawholebean: you want to see them or install them ? |
| 03:18.56 | liable | lfs__: have you actually read the release notes? |
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| 03:19.09 | worthawholebean | ok ty |
| 03:19.14 | abrotman | worthawholebean: you want to see them or install them ? |
| 03:19.21 | worthawholebean | see them |
| 03:19.30 | worthawholebean | so ty |
| 03:19.30 | abrotman | then what jelly said |
| 03:19.57 | tsuyoshi | ok.. device.map... what do I put in there? |
| 03:20.08 | tsuyoshi | and why does the grub manual not mention it? |
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| 03:20.47 | abrotman | Lennon^: so what does your bot do ? |
| 03:21.15 | lfs__ | aptitude -f --with-recommends dist-upgrade runs without error but I still have all kinds of woody. |
| 03:22.06 | ryanium | lolol |
| 03:22.11 | lfs__ | Im going to run this on all the woody stuff dpkg -r --force-depends |
| 03:22.18 | ryanium | "i still have all kinds of woody." lol owned |
| 03:22.33 | benley | huhuhuhuhu he said woody hhuhuhuhuu |
| 03:22.33 | abrotman | wtf ? |
| 03:22.43 | abrotman | thc: you're not alone |
| 03:22.46 | tsuyoshi | damnit.. I'm just gonna use lilo |
| 03:22.49 | thc | heh! |
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| 03:22.56 | thc | tsuyoshi: use a grub floppy. |
| 03:22.57 | benley | tsuyoshi: nothing wrong with using lilo |
| 03:23.07 | tsuyoshi | thc: I don't have any floppy drives |
| 03:23.07 | bonz | abrotman: no fire here unfotunately |
| 03:23.12 | tsuyoshi | I stopped using those years ago |
| 03:23.12 | netdaemon862 | quick quesiton, what group do i need to be a member of to print as a user in sarge? |
| 03:23.33 | abrotman | bonz: fire ? |
| 03:23.52 | lfs__ | YOu can print from any group. |
| 03:23.55 | tsuyoshi | netdaemon862: I don't think you need to be a member of any group, since it's usually done via socket anyway |
| 03:24.00 | bonz | netdaemon862: if you know the answer in order too judge whether a question is quick or slow, why bother asking it? |
| 03:24.03 | kjetilho | tsuyoshi: what's wrong with my suggestion? |
| 03:24.16 | kjetilho | t'was quite painless for me |
| 03:24.18 | tsuyoshi | kjetilho: I can't figure out what to put in device.map |
| 03:24.22 | sfullenwider | how do you handle getting newer versions of things you need when you're using stable? |
| 03:24.31 | netdaemon862 | well i can print a test page as root just fine, when i go to print something from firefox it won't go |
| 03:24.33 | thc | gotta love when users decide not to run floppy drives because they are unnecessary |
| 03:24.36 | kjetilho | tsuyoshi: oh, you just lie and say that hd0 is dev/sdb |
| 03:24.36 | thc | and then they need them. |
| 03:24.37 | Guerin | sfullenwider: you don't use stable if you want newer versions |
| 03:24.42 | abrotman | sfullenwider: the versions in stable don't really change |
| 03:24.47 | benley | thc: they're unnecessary and I don't need them :) |
| 03:24.47 | bonz | abrotman: yeah as in wtf/where's the fire |
| 03:24.52 | netdaemon862 | i'm part of the lp and lpadmin groups |
| 03:24.54 | kjetilho | tsuyoshi: because it _will_ be hd0 when you make it master |
| 03:25.00 | tsuyoshi | kjetilho: is the format described anywhere? it's empty right now |
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| 03:25.05 | abrotman | bonz: oh .. sorry .. getting late here :) |
| 03:25.16 | kjetilho | (hd0) /dev/sdb should suffice |
| 03:25.20 | tsuyoshi | thc: well, this sort of situation works fine with lilo |
| 03:25.37 | lfs__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:25.40 | liable | netdaemon862: can you print from the command line as a user? |
| 03:25.42 | sfullenwider | So there is little point in using stable if you tend to require newer versions of things...ie. don't use your computer strickly for office stuff? |
| 03:25.44 | lfs__ | Do I lose the internet? |
| 03:25.46 | thc | huh? i never said anything about lilo |
| 03:25.59 | netdaemon862 | send me the command and i'll tell you |
| 03:26.14 | netdaemon862 | using cups btw.... |
| 03:26.21 | lfs__ | I think testing is more stable than stable |
| 03:26.38 | liable | netdaemon862: you have cupssys-bsd installed? |
| 03:26.46 | lfs__ | My computer was in stable and now it is completely not stable. |
| 03:26.51 | netdaemon862 | no i don't =\ |
| 03:26.51 | bonz | abrotman: noissue, I'm still trying too suss out what bits I need too rsync given I already have the indexes for woody |
| 03:26.55 | sfullenwider | Yet testing does not include security fixes...therefore one would be insecure if one uses testing |
| 03:26.56 | netdaemon862 | that may be my problem yet... |
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| 03:27.06 | thc | lfs__: is there a reason why you have 3 nicks in here? |
| 03:27.06 | liable | netdaemon862: install it and try from firefox again. |
| 03:27.18 | evilkenshin | how do i fix my xserver to play back video |
| 03:27.22 | lfs__ | When I upgraded my nick changed. |
| 03:27.33 | bonz | looks like if I rsync pool I'll get woody,sarge,etch & sid |
| 03:27.35 | lfs__ | For some reason I couldnt get on with lfs for a while. |
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| 03:27.50 | thc | lfs__: that's because it's still logged on. |
| 03:27.58 | abrotman | bonz: what about using jigdo ? |
| 03:28.00 | daemonic | finally.. got the second processor up and recognized.. how the hell the apic code in the bios went corrupt is beyond me. |
| 03:28.15 | abrotman | heh |
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| 03:28.19 | lfs__ | What is my other nick? Thought only two. |
| 03:28.27 | thc | lfs__: lfs lfs_ |
| 03:28.31 | bonz | abrotman: never heard of that before I'll look it up |
| 03:28.33 | evilkenshin | my xserver is messed up and will not play back video i do not know how to fix it |
| 03:28.41 | thc | all three are in this channel, and they make nickcomplete fun! |
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| 03:29.06 | netdaemon862 | there we go |
| 03:29.07 | daemonic | abrotman: do you know if there's anything else I must do to take advantage of the second processor other than an smp kernel and it being recognized? |
| 03:29.11 | netdaemon862 | thanks! |
| 03:29.22 | abrotman | Lennon^: ? |
| 03:29.33 | lfs__ | libdns5 Will I lose the internet if I force removal of this one? |
| 03:29.34 | abrotman | Daedalus_: that's all i know |
| 03:29.36 | bonz | nah gtk is useless when your on sonsole only boxes via ssh |
| 03:29.38 | tsuyoshi | oh, I see.. device.map is under "invoking the grub shell" |
| 03:29.41 | netdaemon862 | didn't think cupsys-bsd would be the prob.... |
| 03:29.42 | tsuyoshi | how obvious |
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| 03:30.04 | thc | lfs__: lose internet? uh, logging off of irc doesn't affect your internet connection |
| 03:30.11 | liable | netdaemon862: its just because of the command firefox uses,which you could change if you wanted.. |
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| 03:30.34 | lfs__ | libdns5 If I force removal of this library??? |
| 03:30.36 | netdaemon862 | its not biggie |
| 03:30.38 | netdaemon862 | well i'm out |
| 03:30.40 | lfs__ | Will I lose the internet. |
| 03:30.52 | sfullenwider | Does Testing tend to be highly unsecure? |
| 03:31.01 | sfullenwider | or does it at least get the major stuff? |
| 03:31.02 | lfs__ | Testing is great |
| 03:31.07 | bonz | thc: it does if you run one of those user friendly systems from some proprietry commercial establishment near redmond |
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| 03:31.22 | sfullenwider | sorry... |
| 03:31.28 | abrotman | !testing security |
| 03:31.28 | dpkg | Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ ;) |
| 03:31.46 | evilkenshin | anyone know how to fix a xserver so it will paly back video right? |
| 03:31.56 | bonz | hmm is unsecure like insecure? |
| 03:31.57 | Baloo | I wonder when kernel-image-2.6.1[234].* will appear in unstable |
| 03:32.03 | thc | evilkenshin: what does the X server have to do with video playback? |
| 03:32.16 | abrotman | Baloo: 14 is already there ... apt-cache search linux-image |
| 03:32.17 | bonz | or is it more like inflammable is too flammable? |
| 03:32.20 | hacim | Baloo: it wont, the name changed |
| 03:32.21 | sfullenwider | I'm d/ling the testing iso, re-arranged tree structures have burned me in the past. |
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| 03:33.05 | lfs__ | If I force removal of libdns5 can I still get it back if I lose the internet? |
| 03:33.06 | sfullenwider | bonz: as in _never_ getting security fixes or just getting the ones to stop run of the mill hax0rs would |
| 03:33.13 | evilkenshin | uhh im not that sure but i know if it type -mplayer -vo x11 it will make mplayer work |
| 03:33.13 | sfullenwider | -would |
| 03:33.20 | evilkenshin | and i was told my xserver is messed up |
| 03:33.50 | bonz | sfullenwider: disconnecting from networks containing those hax0rs does the same job |
| 03:33.54 | lfs__ | Should I download the def for this one? |
| 03:34.06 | Baloo | Ooooohh, the name changed...ok |
| 03:34.07 | lfs__ | s/def/deb |
| 03:34.10 | sfullenwider | bonz: irc tends to propogate hax0rs...would I be able to use IRC? |
| 03:34.16 | bonz | & burying the machines in a concrete bunker with no power :) |
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| 03:34.25 | bonz | as in thewtc |
| 03:34.34 | abrotman | !testing security |
| 03:34.35 | dpkg | Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/ ;) |
| 03:34.39 | sfullenwider | I mean stuff like...ok I know I'm dated....nestea? |
| 03:35.02 | bonz | sfullenwider: irc is overrated |
| 03:35.36 | sfullenwider | bonz: yeah but you're here and without you I may require the use of a clocktower before I'll get a stupid dvd to play |
| 03:35.45 | lfs__ | What is the apt command to install from a deb file? |
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| 03:35.51 | thc | irc propogates hackers? hmm. i thought it propogated packet kiddies and botnets |
| 03:36.02 | mfrisch | bonz irc rules |
| 03:36.09 | sfullenwider | dunno what a packet kiddie is. |
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| 03:36.18 | caphuso | lfs__: dpkg -i |
| 03:36.37 | mfrisch | sfullenwider you want to play dvd's? |
| 03:36.47 | thc | sfullenwider: join efnet and join some channels, then talk shit. you'll see what a packet kiddie is. |
| 03:36.49 | lfs__ | So if I lose the internet I can use dpkg -i to reinstall using the deb file |
| 03:36.52 | sfullenwider | Among other things. |
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| 03:36.58 | bonz | dvd's are overrated too |
| 03:37.01 | sfullenwider | thc: then they are what I meant by hax0rs. |
| 03:37.29 | thc | sfullenwider: packet kiddies are not hackers. they are 14 year old kids who know how to spread trojans and infected mirc clients |
| 03:37.39 | bonz | lfs__: you can install packages without a netconnection |
| 03:37.40 | Condector | help-me!!! |
| 03:37.45 | mfrisch | sfullenwider did you install /usr/share/doc/libdvdread2/examples/something** |
| 03:37.47 | Condector | my xorg has a panic problem |
| 03:37.55 | sfullenwider | I didn't mean to open that hat conversation that was all the rage way baack there |
| 03:38.01 | bonz | when connected you can retrieve using -d |
| 03:38.07 | Guerin | Condector: tell it to have a cup of tea and a lie down |
| 03:38.51 | sfullenwider | mfrisch: I can play them, but what I'm trying to accomplish (amongst other things) is playing them without insane frame drops, I _could_ play them just fine in win98 on the very same computer. |
| 03:38.58 | Condector | try overwrite `/etc/X11/Xsession', but this file is in xorg-common |
| 03:39.05 | Condector | Guerin this is the problem.. |
| 03:39.09 | bonz | when offline you can use --no-download bothoptions viewable in man apt-get |
| 03:39.28 | Condector | the package x11-common overwrite xorg-common in unstable.. |
| 03:39.32 | thc | Condector: don't touch anything in /etc if you have no idea what you are doing. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 03:39.37 | lfs__ | What is sarge deb for llibdns5? |
| 03:39.42 | Guerin | Condector: you're using unstable, deal. |
| 03:39.56 | Guerin | Condector: this is not his problem. |
| 03:40.02 | Condector | hum |
| 03:40.05 | Guerin | Condector: man dpkg; look for overwrite |
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| 03:40.09 | liable | !find libdns sarge |
| 03:40.10 | Condector | hummmm |
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| 03:40.22 | bonz | means you can spend the whole time connected downloading instead of installing & then install the packages when you're offline |
| 03:40.26 | Guerin | Condector: for extra cool points, read man apt-get and figure out how to pass the dpkg option to apt |
| 03:40.36 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'libdns' (5 of 6): (/usr/share/doc/skalibs-doc/libdns.html) in doc/skalibs-doc ;; (/usr/i586-mingw32msvc/lib/libdnsapi.a) in devel/mingw32-runtime ;; (/usr/lib/{libdns.so.16|libdns.so.16.0.0}) in libs/libdns16 ;; (/usr/lib/{libdns.a|libdns.la|libdns.so}) in libdevel/libbind-dev ;; (/usr/lib/gnome-vfs-2.0/modules/libdns-sd.so) in devel/libgnomevfs2-common. |
| 03:40.47 | Guerin | Condector: if you are just using plain debian, also consider filing a bug |
| 03:41.10 | mfrisch | sfullenwider dump gnome/kde I went to xfce. 70% cpu. Softframe drop is ok. What are you useing to play. xine is good for us low cpu guys. I use mplayer no prob |
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| 03:41.32 | bonz | you could also do an "apt-get -dy upgrade;apt-get -dy upgrade" ad nauseum too make certain you get everything needed |
| 03:41.32 | Condector | Guerin man apt-get no has any information... about this.. hehehe |
| 03:41.38 | sfullenwider | mfrisch: wouldn't that mean I could no longer use gnome apps? |
| 03:41.50 | mfrisch | sfullenwider no |
| 03:42.04 | liable | lfs__: apt-cache search libdns |
| 03:42.06 | sfullenwider | I was using xine... mplayer drops frames too. |
| 03:42.12 | mfrisch | sfullenwider it is another option during gdm login |
| 03:42.13 | Guerin | Condector: yes, it does. -o allows you to pass a bunch of config options. |
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| 03:42.16 | paxmaster | I have a debian box and a apple mac osx server how can I use apple open Ldap to my debian box |
| 03:42.19 | paxmaster | help |
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| 03:42.32 | Condector | YES |
| 03:42.37 | Condector | Guerin thanks!! |
| 03:42.43 | Condector | dpkg is the best!! |
| 03:42.50 | sfullenwider | I'll try it when the iso finishes. I've had to install a bunch of stuff manually (ie no apt-get) off of freshmeat for other things which disturbs me. |
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| 03:44.23 | lfs__ | How to find the deb? I found the package page/ |
| 03:44.43 | KerPlunk | When I ./configure something...what is the option to specify where it will be installed? |
| 03:44.52 | KerPlunk | Like if I don't have root and I want to install something to ~ |
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| 03:45.29 | KerPlunk | --prefix=/home/diana |
| 03:45.30 | KerPlunk | nevermind |
| 03:45.33 | bob2 | KerPlunk: --prefix, usually |
| 03:45.37 | Condector | thanks!!! |
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| 03:46.53 | paxmaster | I have a debian box and a apple mac osx server how can I use apple open Ldap to my debian box |
| 03:47.27 | liable | !beer debhelper |
| 03:47.47 | abrotman | paxmaster: what ? |
| 03:48.08 | lfs__ | Is a package and a deb file the same thing? |
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| 03:48.42 | paxmaster | how could I hook my linux box to an open Ldap (mac osx server) |
| 03:48.54 | RandomTask | hi folks ... can someone tell me how i can fix my system clock ... its about 1 hour off ... stupid question i know :-) |
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| 03:50.02 | bob2 | paxmaster: to do what? auth? |
| 03:50.15 | bob2 | RandomTask: date -s, or 'ntpdate ntp.anu.edu.au' |
| 03:50.31 | RandomTask | bob2: thanks |
| 03:50.49 | paxmaster | yeah auth |
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| 03:53.19 | dusk | whats a good torrent program (im looking for one like utorrent for windows) |
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| 03:54.15 | paxmaster | it work with window and mac but now I want to do it with linux |
| 03:54.16 | Guerin | dusk: ABC |
| 03:54.16 | SlayerXP | http://www.ukdragon.com/b3ta/H5N1.JPG |
| 03:54.17 | SlayerXP | that's superb |
| 03:54.19 | Guerin | dusk: utorrent is the one based off botcomet, right? |
| 03:54.21 | Guerin | bitcomet |
| 03:54.25 | karrot-x | can you run ethernet over 1394? |
| 03:54.29 | karrot-x | and get an internet connection? |
| 03:54.35 | Guerin | karrot-x: yes. |
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| 03:54.49 | karrot-x | really |
| 03:54.59 | karrot-x | i thought 1394 was firewire only |
| 03:55.04 | karrot-x | or maybe thats 1394a? |
| 03:55.10 | abrotman | TCP over ieee1394 does exist |
| 03:55.31 | Urthmover | anyone like FreeNX? |
| 03:55.36 | dusk | guerin: http://www.utorrent.com/ |
| 03:55.38 | Guerin | karrot-x: this is but one reason 1394 > usb |
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| 03:55.59 | evilkenshin | for some reason i cannot get my video playback to work |
| 03:56.00 | abrotman | !freenx |
| 03:56.00 | dpkg | i heard freenx is debs at http://kanotix.com/files/debian |
| 03:56.07 | abrotman | nice... |
| 03:56.19 | evilkenshin | i get this blusish screen but i have audio |
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| 03:56.34 | evilkenshin | in every player i try |
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| 03:57.52 | lfs__ | Can someone please tell me where to get the deb files from. |
| 03:58.08 | abrotman | packages.debian.org |
| 03:58.09 | servus | packages.debian.org for oen? |
| 03:58.13 | omi | I'm having an issue writing DVD+ but DVD- writes fine and my burner supports both, I'm using k3b any advice? |
| 03:58.19 | servus | Or apt-get install yourpackagename |
| 03:58.29 | LowCPU | hello, i need experts opinion on the following matter. equipment= old p90. function= msn, email & internet. is it considerably more efficient to do everything without any GUI? |
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| 03:59.03 | omi | how much ram you have? |
| 03:59.06 | Tortel | Goodnight |
| 03:59.17 | paxmaster | bob2: it work with window and mac but now I want to do it with linux |
| 03:59.24 | LowCPU | 32 |
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| 03:59.47 | abrotman | probably |
| 03:59.55 | abrotman | LowCPU: what desktop are you running ? |
| 04:00.15 | bob2 | paxmaster: http://craige.mcwhirter.com.au/blog/archive/2005/01/17/making_a_debian_or_ubuntu_mach |
| 04:00.24 | LowCPU | you mean, actually? gdm, but the p90 is somewhere in the garage :P |
| 04:00.35 | abrotman | LowCPU: no .. like .. kde or gnome or what ? |
| 04:00.35 | paxmaster | thx for the link i will try it out |
| 04:00.40 | lfs__ | The deb file is not there???? |
| 04:00.43 | LowCPU | gnome. |
| 04:01.02 | roadfish | I tried to "apt-get source xwit" but apt-get fails. Why can't I get the source of this package? |
| 04:01.10 | abrotman | LowCPU: that's pretty heavy for that machine .. have you tried like blackbox or something smaller ? |
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| 04:01.28 | litage | is DIGEST- or CRAM-MD5 more secure? |
| 04:01.43 | PuGz | hey guys. how can i get debian to stop printing error messages to the console? i forget... |
| 04:01.54 | litage | PuGz: edit /etc/syslog.conf |
| 04:01.58 | PuGz | cheeer |
| 04:01.59 | PuGz | s |
| 04:02.04 | litage | np PuGz |
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| 04:02.27 | Tigerhawk | Hello |
| 04:02.42 | LowCPU | i'm incredibly new to linux, debian is my only "familiar" distr. |
| 04:02.45 | PuGz | litage: hmmm.... i have actually already read that file in the last 5 mins but didnt understand it. maybe its in a man? |
| 04:02.58 | PuGz | yep... syslog.conf(5) |
| 04:03.23 | cast | damn ants are attacking me :\ |
| 04:03.23 | abrotman | LowCPU: i'm just noting that gnome isn't very light .. and you might be better served with something smaller like blackbox or fvwm |
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| 04:03.39 | PuGz | LowCPU: well good on ya! |
| 04:03.43 | omi | lowcpu try e16 |
| 04:03.47 | PuGz | LowCPU: how do u like it so far? |
| 04:03.59 | abrotman | omi: how the hell is e16 light ? |
| 04:04.10 | cast | abrotman: its light compared to gnome/kde :> |
| 04:04.12 | bob2 | !+printk |
| 04:04.13 | dpkg | well, printk console is see docs for sysctl and set kernel.printk to 3 4 1 7 or so. If you want to know what those numbers mean, see the file Documentation/filesystems/proc.txt in your kernel sources. |
| 04:04.16 | abrotman | cast: not really |
| 04:04.19 | omi | disable all gui effects and it is very responsive even on p1 |
| 04:04.20 | Tigerhawk | probably shouldn't ask here |
| 04:04.21 | bob2 | PuGz: that, too |
| 04:04.23 | omi | I use it |
| 04:04.28 | abrotman | omi: so it blackbox .. |
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| 04:04.31 | abrotman | err so is |
| 04:04.47 | omi | enlightenment is FAR more responsive than *box |
| 04:04.50 | PuGz | bob2: was that for me? |
| 04:05.00 | PuGz | bob2: nice |
| 04:05.01 | LowCPU | PuGz: I feel deliciously lost since I used windows for years. i'm already feeling, somehow, addicted to tweaking and optimizing stuff |
| 04:05.11 | abrotman | omi: in your dreams .. i used to try to use E on a P1 90 .. and i had to switch to something lighter |
| 04:05.13 | PuGz | LowCPU: samo |
| 04:05.32 | omi | when |
| 04:05.55 | PuGz | bob2: i didnt fully understand dpkg's cryptic message |
| 04:05.57 | abrotman | omi: what do you mean when ? .. does it matter .. it was E on a P90 |
| 04:06.04 | omi | it matters |
| 04:06.13 | abrotman | how the fuck does it matter |
| 04:06.18 | abrotman | a P90 is still a P90 |
| 04:06.18 | kjetilho | the video card matters more |
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| 04:06.24 | Guerin | omi: you're suggesting he use DR17? |
| 04:06.33 | abrotman | no .. e16 |
| 04:06.33 | omi | core revisions I hear can do wonders |
| 04:06.42 | Guerin | oh ... he hears |
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| 04:06.57 | Tigerhawk | okay, since the knoppix channel is basically dead, I have no choice but to ask here, I have version 3.7 how would you use the 2.6.9 kernel with the framebuffer option fb1024x768 |
| 04:07.07 | parsonsd | guerin -- nothing like second-hand knowledge ;) |
| 04:07.19 | Guerin | parsonsd: nothing so plentiful in all the universe |
| 04:07.32 | abrotman | i heard second hand knowledge is good |
| 04:07.33 | Guerin | parsonsd: and easily refined into pure bullshit with minimal equipment |
| 04:07.42 | PuGz | bob2: i just want it to log that crap to a file instead of the screen |
| 04:07.46 | parsonsd | guerin -- actually, advice is more plentiful |
| 04:07.50 | cast | clearly you're both wrong, screen is the answer |
| 04:07.56 | abrotman | parsonsd: no .. opinions are :) |
| 04:08.06 | phyberoptix | cs set # I got all Krunked gaurd on |
| 04:08.10 | Guerin | cast: get back to me when there's a usable console www browser |
| 04:08.19 | Guerin | and no, links2 -g isn't |
| 04:08.22 | cast | Guerin: w3m? :> |
| 04:08.25 | Guerin | and doesn't work in screen |
| 04:08.28 | PuGz | bob2: a few years ago someone told me a simple way to stop the messages comming to the console... i think printk rings a bell... can you ellaborate? |
| 04:08.28 | Guerin | cast: HAHAH |
| 04:08.41 | liable | PuGz: you can edit the sysklogd init script too, which may work for you. |
| 04:08.48 | Guerin | PuGz: /msg dpkg klogd |
| 04:08.53 | PuGz | ok |
| 04:08.55 | PuGz | cheers |
| 04:08.56 | cast | hey..i like w3m. it has tabs, even IE doesn't have those :D |
| 04:09.03 | LowCPU | what about working text-only? does anyone actually do that? |
| 04:09.08 | parsonsd | abrotman: i conceed. first is opinion, second is advice, third is second-hand knowledge. :) |
| 04:09.09 | Guerin | it's still fugly as anything |
| 04:09.11 | cast | LowCPU: lots of people |
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| 04:09.36 | Guerin | i would, but I need more out of a web browser than I can get on console |
| 04:09.42 | lfs | How to reconfigure the desktop? |
| 04:09.56 | Guerin | lfs: ENOCONTEXT |
| 04:09.57 | abrotman | !drxx lfs |
| 04:10.01 | dpkg | lfs: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:10.07 | abrotman | !wave |
| 04:10.10 | abrotman | drr ... |
| 04:10.13 | roadfish | cast: w3m in emacs ... use it all the time |
| 04:10.17 | abrotman | that was supposed to be .. /me waves |
| 04:10.22 | LowCPU | i wonder if i could connect to an MSN session using terminal...? |
| 04:10.27 | lfs | I need the desktop reconfigured. I did that with X already. |
| 04:10.33 | LowCPU | because i actually broke gdm while playing around :( |
| 04:10.35 | PuGz | Guerin: thats what i was looking for! |
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| 04:10.38 | cast | LowCPU: of course, use irc2msn gateway |
| 04:10.44 | PuGz | Guerin: cheers |
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| 04:10.48 | cast | LowCPU: aka /server im.bitlbee.org |
| 04:11.01 | lfs | I have this horrible screwed up desktop. Too awful to describe. |
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| 04:11.11 | cast | LowCPU: its based off gaim, so has support for all the same networks |
| 04:11.20 | Guerin | lfs: /msg dpkg remove gnome |
| 04:11.32 | PuGz | i am creating a /etc/init.d/esd file... to do the obvious. how should i check if esd is already running in any way and if so, exit? |
| 04:11.40 | roadfish | I downloaded a Debian source package with an Imakefile file. What the h*ck do I do with this file? "make" has no effect. |
| 04:11.44 | omi | I'm having an issue writing to DVD+ in k3b DVD- works fine though |
| 04:11.49 | lunitik | LowCPU: what cast said, or tmsn |
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| 04:11.58 | omi | anyone had that problem? |
| 04:12.01 | Guerin | roadfish: fakeroot debian/rules binary |
| 04:12.02 | PuGz | if [ -f $PIDFILE ]; then exit 0 |
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| 04:12.08 | lunitik | LowCPU: there is another console messenger, but I can't remember its name :/ |
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| 04:12.26 | PuGz | centericq |
| 04:12.30 | stew | naim |
| 04:12.35 | PuGz | LowCPU: ^^ |
| 04:12.47 | lunitik | PuGz: ahh... yeah, that :P |
| 04:12.58 | caphuso | PuGz: esound isn't supposed to be started by an init script |
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| 04:13.14 | PuGz | caphuso: but i can make it so that it is yeaH? |
| 04:13.27 | lunitik | PuGz: tmsn > centericq if he just wants MSN though... centericq is also bad in general for chats :( |
| 04:13.30 | verden01 | i'm trying to install an nVidia driver but when i go Crtl+Alt+F1 and run the command it still says to exit the xserver any ideas? |
| 04:13.35 | caphuso | PuGz: well, theoretically yes, but why would you want to do such a stupid thing? |
| 04:13.37 | LowCPU | so much info :P |
| 04:13.38 | PuGz | caphuso: my problem is i want all users to be able to play messages through esd at once. so i want it started at boot, and made world usable |
| 04:13.48 | PuGz | lunitik: agreed |
| 04:13.52 | cast | verden01: try exiting the xserver? rather then switching out of it |
| 04:14.02 | verden01 | how would i do that? |
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| 04:14.30 | PuGz | verden01: go back into X and press ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 04:14.38 | verden01 | thanx |
| 04:14.39 | cast | verden01: well, for me its ctrl-alt-backspace but your dm thingy will probably restart it, someone will tell you what to kill/do to fix that |
| 04:14.43 | PuGz | verden01: that will kill it temp, but gdm or kdm or what not wil.... |
| 04:14.47 | imex | PuGz, an old trick |
| 04:14.49 | PuGz | cast: you beat me! |
| 04:15.01 | PuGz | imex: what, the esd or backspace thing/ |
| 04:15.01 | PuGz | ? |
| 04:15.18 | Rubia | wenas |
| 04:15.19 | imex | PuGz, backspace |
| 04:15.23 | PuGz | indeed |
| 04:15.48 | caphuso | ctrl-alt-backspace _kills_ the X server. don't do that unless you have an actual reason |
| 04:15.54 | roadfish | Guerin: Thanks for the help. Don't know what you mean ... I'll do some searching on "fakeroot" tomorrow. Must sleep now. |
| 04:16.05 | imex | anyways need to install a second nic (usb) any idea how to use it and activate at boot? |
| 04:16.10 | PuGz | caphuso: i want to use esd with many users at the same time. caphuso and i want mpd to use it even if X or gnome or whatever arent running. |
| 04:16.19 | caphuso | you know, there's a reason why any WM/DE has some sort of "logout" button |
| 04:16.21 | Guerin | imex: load the module and bring it up |
| 04:16.26 | PuGz | imex: /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 04:16.46 | caphuso | PuGz: so, why are you using esd at all? |
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| 04:16.57 | imex | i plung card in now |
| 04:17.04 | imex | *plug |
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| 04:17.38 | caphuso | PuGz: and mpd doesn't have esound support anyway |
| 04:17.56 | Urthmover | always so chatty in here |
| 04:18.02 | PuGz | caphuso: yes it does! |
| 04:18.02 | imex | PuGz, any idea what next? |
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| 04:18.10 | LowCPU | i'm using BitchX right now and i'd really like to save tonight's log, very instructive. how should i perform ? |
| 04:18.29 | caphuso | PuGz: since when? |
| 04:18.45 | lunitik | Urthmover: when you consider there are 731 different nicknames in this room... its really not that chatty... |
| 04:18.46 | PuGz | caphuso: i dunno hey... but it does |
| 04:19.11 | PuGz | caphuso: in my mpd.conf: ao_driver "esd" |
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| 04:19.54 | caphuso | PuGz: ah, indeed, it's just not documented |
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| 04:20.06 | caphuso | PuGz: well, doesn't really matter. why are you using esd? |
| 04:20.06 | lfs_ | I think apt-get install is hung up at rebuilding the database. |
| 04:20.07 | PuGz | caphuso: i am using esd because it makes it easier to have all sounds going through a daemon which mixes them for you. |
| 04:20.25 | caphuso | PuGz: no, it makes everything harder because it's a piece of shit |
| 04:20.27 | lfs_ | Oops guess not, boy that took a while |
| 04:20.30 | PuGz | caphuso: my sound card doesnt do hardware mixing |
| 04:20.38 | caphuso | PuGz: use alsa and set up dmix |
| 04:20.42 | PuGz | and mpd hogs the sound card |
| 04:20.46 | PuGz | caphuso: i have done that |
| 04:20.54 | caphuso | PuGz: then you don't need esd |
| 04:20.56 | PuGz | caphuso: but for some reason, mpd still hogs the sound card |
| 04:21.07 | lunitik | PuGz: hmm... so you want your computer beeping at you while listening to music? makes sense :/ |
| 04:21.07 | caphuso | PuGz: then you misconfigured something |
| 04:21.08 | lfs_ | I think I am going to have a fixed system pretty soon. |
| 04:21.10 | lfs_ | I cant wait. |
| 04:21.21 | litage | why might SSL+DIGEST-MD5 fail despite TLS+DIGEST-MD5 succeed? this is what happens when SSL+DIGEST-MD5 fails. any suggestions?: http://rafb.net/paste/results/LNXrJ588.html |
| 04:21.26 | imex | brb reading on the usb nic installing |
| 04:21.35 | PuGz | lunitik: but if you have it so it doesnt, the sounds all build up and play at you afterwards |
| 04:21.44 | PuGz | caphuso: ok... would love to fix it! |
| 04:21.48 | paxmaster | what is nsswitch.conf |
| 04:21.53 | paxmaster | ? |
| 04:22.00 | caphuso | paxmaster: man nsswitch.conf |
| 04:22.09 | lunitik | PuGz: umm... no they don't... |
| 04:22.16 | paxmaster | oh ic |
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| 04:22.55 | lfs | I have a fixed system |
| 04:23.02 | lfs | !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 04:23.07 | PuGz | lunitik: they did for me once |
| 04:23.18 | SlayerXP | lfs: you also have a faulty keyboard |
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| 04:24.29 | imex | hmmm wonder where my kernel is located .............muhahahaha |
| 04:24.42 | lfs | Sarge desktop is alot better than Woody |
| 04:25.07 | lunitik | imex: /boot/vmlinuz* are kernels... also /lib/modules/ are all part of the kernel |
| 04:25.14 | SlayerXP | lfs: for entirely self subjective values of "better" |
| 04:25.15 | PuGz | lfs: no shit! |
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| 04:25.30 | lunitik | lfs: its about 2 years newer.... |
| 04:25.46 | PuGz | more like 3? |
| 04:25.52 | SlayerXP | newer and better are not the same thing |
| 04:25.53 | imex | lunitik, trying to install usb nic driver and asked me where my source of kernel is |
| 04:25.54 | lfs | After upgrading I had a mess of a desktop. |
| 04:26.05 | lunitik | lfs: no one thats used Debian for any length of time uses Stable unless its a server :/ |
| 04:26.11 | lfs | It was like scrambled eggs on a screen. |
| 04:26.15 | lunitik | SlayerXP: lies :P |
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| 04:27.06 | Guerin | lunitik: example: music |
| 04:27.22 | Guerin | lunitik: oh wait. I bet you think britney speakrs > madonna |
| 04:27.29 | Guerin | s/k// |
| 04:27.35 | PuGz | $ aplay /usr/share/sounds/email.wav |
| 04:27.36 | PuGz | ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:802:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave |
| 04:27.36 | PuGz | aplay: main:533: audio open error: Device or resource busy |
| 04:27.38 | lunitik | imex: apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
| 04:27.49 | PuGz | caphuso: thats what i get when mpd uses alsa09 |
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| 04:28.03 | lunitik | Guerin: I'm 21... |
| 04:28.11 | lunitik | Guerin: however I'm into Rap... so yeah |
| 04:28.18 | caphuso | PuGz: again, then you misconfigured something |
| 04:28.20 | lunitik | Guerin: Madonna is pretty weak though :/ |
| 04:28.22 | Guerin | lunitik: wtf |
| 04:28.22 | PuGz | britney is > madonna! |
| 04:28.54 | Guerin | now hell, I don't even like madonna all that much ... but saying britney is better than her is ... just wrong |
| 04:28.57 | Guerin | in about 100 ways |
| 04:29.13 | caphuso | *sigh* |
| 04:29.24 | lunitik | Guerin: Listen to some of her unreleased stuff... better voice, thats for sure |
| 04:29.32 | caphuso | PuGz: fine, you ignore the channel guidelines, i ignore you. deal done |
| 04:29.33 | Guerin | lunitik: yeah. Right. |
| 04:29.35 | caphuso | what a moron |
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| 04:29.49 | lunitik | Guerin: not to mention she was about 4395736 times hotter before she got pregnant than Madonna ever was... |
| 04:29.59 | Guerin | ... |
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| 04:30.21 | Vicious | wtf? |
| 04:30.25 | SlayerXP | they can take George "Doors are hard" Bush with them, too |
| 04:30.27 | cast | i second that. and thats colonisation before terraforming, too |
| 04:30.39 | lunitik | SlayerXP: so long as mars has internet access, I volunteer too 8) |
| 04:30.42 | PuGz | caphuso: oh no! but i NEED you... bah... whatever big guy |
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| 04:31.30 | imex | lunitik, issued the command, E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:31.33 | lunitik | SlayerXP: Would you consider what Shakespear to not be art? |
| 04:31.35 | imex | is what i got |
| 04:31.48 | caphuso | imex: kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 04:31.49 | Guerin | lunitik: would you consider the english to be speaking? |
| 04:31.50 | SlayerXP | lunitik: que? |
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| 04:32.02 | imex | caphuso, i c |
| 04:32.05 | lunitik | SlayerXP: the great part about art, you can't define it... rap is poetry over a beat... |
| 04:32.12 | Guerin | lunitik: http://feayn.org/~lewis/middleschooltest.txt |
| 04:32.13 | lunitik | SlayerXP: Would you consider what Shakespear wrote to not be art? * |
| 04:32.21 | SlayerXP | lunitik: no, rap is what people who can't sing do |
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| 04:32.28 | Guerin | lunitik: you might consider taking this test ... i wrote it for korean middle school students |
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| 04:32.42 | SlayerXP | lunitik: what's with the Yoda impressions? |
| 04:32.45 | imex | caphuso, funny thing is that whe Makefile needs to know where my kernel is to compile the driver |
| 04:32.45 | lunitik | SlayerXP: not true... example... Nelly... he sure can sing :/ |
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| 04:33.21 | cast | bleh @ apt secure using md5 |
| 04:33.40 | SlayerXP | lunitik: prepositions are something that you should never start a sentence with. |
| 04:33.41 | lunitik | SlayerXP: Most rock isn't exactly singing either.... they yell into a mic over some dude banging on his drums real hard :/ |
| 04:33.45 | lunitik | Where is the art in that? |
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| 04:34.01 | Vicious | I ate my homework is a reasonable answer too, Guerin |
| 04:34.05 | SlayerXP | did I say it was art? or did I imply that rap is shite? |
| 04:34.09 | lunitik | SlayerXP: I'm a geek, not an English major... get off that... thanks |
| 04:34.12 | Guerin | lunitik: um ... that's most modern rock. Rock has been around since when people COULD sing. |
| 04:34.16 | SlayerXP | the latter was the thrust of my argument, I believe |
| 04:34.29 | Guerin | Vicious: but he later says it's at home. |
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| 04:34.45 | SuperSox | Are there any products (free or not) similar to cvs and subversion? |
| 04:34.46 | Vicious | lol |
| 04:34.54 | Guerin | SuperSox: lots. |
| 04:34.56 | parsonsd | slayerxp : nor are prepositions to end a sentence with. |
| 04:35.03 | SuperSox | Guerin: know of any examples? |
| 04:35.19 | parsonsd | slayerxp: funny, though |
| 04:35.29 | SlayerXP | parsonsd: well done, you have failed this morning's example by bad example spotting test. |
| 04:35.35 | Vicious | aaaanyway, last I checked this was a debian channel, not rap |
| 04:35.37 | Supaplex | lunitik =~ s/rap/techo/g |
| 04:35.45 | Supaplex | :P |
| 04:35.46 | lunitik | Guerin: SlayerXP: If the only rap you have been exposed to is the crap they play on MTV, you need to shut the fuck up... thank you in advance |
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| 04:36.10 | Supaplex | !start a genre war |
| 04:36.15 | parsonsd | slayerxp : oh! Woe is me! A failure of Example! |
| 04:36.16 | Guerin | lunitik: i expect I know more about rap than you do, and I listen to a lot of it. So don't take that tone with me, sonny jim. |
| 04:36.17 | lunitik | Supaplex: I enjoy techno also... anything without guitars pretty much |
| 04:36.25 | Supaplex | cool :) |
| 04:36.26 | SlayerXP | lunitik: I'm delighted to inform you that I have never ever watched MTV. |
| 04:36.32 | lunitik | Guerin: try me... |
| 04:36.37 | Guerin | lunitik: notwithstanding the fact that the only artists you've mentioned are the big-name MTV artists |
| 04:36.45 | Supaplex | lunitik: so like knobtweakers.net ? |
| 04:36.58 | lunitik | SlayerXP: then what exposure to rap have you gotten? |
| 04:37.15 | lunitik | Guerin: funny, I listed Nelly, and thats it... |
| 04:37.17 | SlayerXP | actually, one rap track I do like is "Bring The Noise" by Anthrax and those rapper chaps |
| 04:37.20 | SuperSox | Anyone got anything more useful than Guerin's 'lots' answer? |
| 04:37.23 | Guerin | lunitik: and britney spears |
| 04:37.24 | imex | where would my configured kernel source be at? I upgrade from apt to 2.6 |
| 04:37.29 | lunitik | Guerin: he's the first person that raps and sings that came to mind.. |
| 04:37.31 | SlayerXP | that's more due to Anthrax than the black rapper dudes. |
| 04:37.35 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: errr, Slayer and Atari Teenage Riot - No remorse ? |
| 04:37.45 | lunitik | Guerin: yeah, sorry to inform you of this... but Britney isn't a rapper... |
| 04:37.49 | Supaplex | imex: .config in the source directory, or /boot/config-`uname -r` |
| 04:37.52 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: oooh good call, not heard that in years. |
| 04:37.57 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: err wait, ignore it's late, read anthrax as slayer |
| 04:38.00 | Guerin | lunitik: nor did I ever say she was. |
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| 04:38.17 | Guerin | SuperSox: google 'source code management' |
| 04:38.20 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: hehe, I was thinking the same thing as I typed t |
| 04:38.42 | SuperSox | Results 1 - 10 of about 116,000,000 for source code management. |
| 04:38.49 | Guerin | SuperSox: public enemy |
| 04:38.50 | SuperSox | I'm going to be honest and say I was polling. |
| 04:38.55 | Guerin | SlayerXP: public enemy |
| 04:38.58 | lunitik | Guerin: What exposure/knowledge do you have of rap/hip-hop? Lets see how valid your opinion is... |
| 04:39.01 | cast | did someone say svn? |
| 04:39.05 | ke6isf | SuperSox: Have fun. |
| 04:39.08 | Guerin | lunitik: oh, god. |
| 04:39.12 | SuperSox | cast me |
| 04:39.24 | imex | Supaplex, kinda got it, i will give it a try |
| 04:40.02 | SuperSox | cast: I'm researching for my honours project, just thought I'd give a shot to see if anything other than svn and cvs sprung to anyones mind then I was going to read up on them... horrible of me I know, but it's 20 to five in the morning and they don't sell Mt Dew in the uk any more :) |
| 04:40.38 | dondelelcaro | SuperSox: there are a few dozen versioning systems around. See arch, baz, darchs, bazzar, tla, rcs... |
| 04:40.40 | lunitik | SuperSox: wth... why not? |
| 04:40.49 | cast | SuperSox: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Free_version_control_systems |
| 04:40.59 | SuperSox | cast, dondelelcaro thankyou :) |
| 04:41.02 | parsonsd | supersox : that stinks. no mt dew? |
| 04:41.02 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: baz is the command line interface of bazzar... |
| 04:41.02 | cast | SuperSox: and dont forget to use LaTeX :> |
| 04:41.42 | SuperSox | parsonsd: nope, they used to sell it, but it got canned - I think due to it's high caffeine content (which is retarded, you can still buy red bull) |
| 04:41.49 | dondelelcaro | lunitik: yes... |
| 04:42.01 | imex | Supaplex, dam thing i m hating to install drivers |
| 04:42.05 | parsonsd | supersox : for windows, there's sourcesafe |
| 04:42.11 | Guerin | SuperSox: red bull is classified as a dietary supplement in most places |
| 04:42.12 | ke6isf | SuperSox: It's not like you can't just brew uber-strong coffee and drink it. I mean, coffee does have more caffeine than Mt. Dew by default. |
| 04:42.15 | SuperSox | tbh, it doesn't matter, I just need a handful to discuss :) |
| 04:42.19 | lunitik | dondelelcaro: just letting you know your list included the same thing twice... |
| 04:42.23 | SuperSox | parsonsd: ahaha! that's the one I as trying to remember :) |
| 04:42.28 | SuperSox | ke6isf: exactly |
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| 04:42.47 | parsonsd | supersox : some 3rd party also sells linux clients for it called Source Off Site |
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| 04:42.58 | SuperSox | I should have just fired up .NET, but I don't have vmware/windows installed at the moment |
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| 04:43.20 | dondelelcaro | clearcase, bitkeeper... |
| 04:43.40 | parsonsd | supersox : np. used to work with it. wasnt all that awesome, but as my boss said, it worked and was pretty simple to setup when he started the project |
| 04:43.42 | Guerin | twiki |
| 04:43.45 | SlayerXP | use svn. |
| 04:43.46 | SlayerXP | EOT. |
| 04:43.47 | SlayerXP | :) |
| 04:43.50 | Guerin | trac, by the bloke who made rtorrent |
| 04:44.11 | dondelelcaro | SlayerXP: svn works, but there are some usage cases for which it is decidedly suboptimal. |
| 04:44.23 | dondelelcaro | SlayerXP: specifically massively distributed development. |
| 04:44.33 | SuperSox | well, for my honours project, I'm writing a program similar to SubEthaEdit and part of the specifications are that it handles versioning (to some degree) |
| 04:44.36 | SlayerXP | dondelelcaro: svk fixes that somewhat |
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| 04:44.43 | dondelelcaro | SlayerXP: but only somewhat. |
| 04:44.49 | SuperSox | so obviously discussing currently existing version management/code management systems is a wise step :) |
| 04:45.09 | parsonsd | slayerxp : svk? |
| 04:45.26 | SlayerXP | parsonsd: distributed svn |
| 04:45.29 | SlayerXP | somewhat |
| 04:45.31 | Daveman | hey dondelelcaro |
| 04:45.36 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: sup |
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| 04:45.45 | Daveman | how's everything going? |
| 04:45.52 | dondelelcaro | Daveman: good; just busy as usual. |
| 04:46.04 | SuperSox | The only retarded thing is I opted to code in C# with windows form controls which was silly, I don't even use windows |
| 04:46.06 | SlayerXP | parsonsd: http://svk.elixus.org/ |
| 04:46.57 | Daveman | dondelelcaro, yep yep :) |
| 04:46.59 | SuperSox | it does mean I should be able to port a good 80 to 90% of it to mono fairly easily however :) |
| 04:47.04 | dondelelcaro | SuperSox: what type of versioning do you need? If it's just simple single file versioning, use RCS or similar. |
| 04:47.06 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: do you irritate those around you by referring to C# as "C Octothorpe" ? |
| 04:47.10 | litage | how do you mount an LVM'd partition/HD? |
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| 04:47.28 | zinx | SlayerXP: i do! |
| 04:47.33 | cast | litage: theres a folder in /dev isnt there |
| 04:47.36 | SlayerXP | zinx: good man! |
| 04:47.55 | SuperSox | dondelelcaro: nah it'll be a very rudimentary custom implamentation - I'm not trying to design an entire source code management system - just a text editor :) |
| 04:48.13 | LowCPU | Good night |
| 04:48.15 | LowCPU | :) |
| 04:48.19 | cast | litage: /dev/mapper/*? |
| 04:48.33 | dondelelcaro | SuperSox: right, which is why you probably want to use RCS, since it is fairly simple and works with single files. |
| 04:48.39 | Bogaurd | hey, how can i create a file of commands that will automatically execure on system boot? |
| 04:48.46 | SuperSox | dondelelcaro: I'll certainly look into it :) |
| 04:48.48 | cast | Bogaurd: of course you can. |
| 04:49.05 | Bogaurd | cast: i'm sure i can, i'd just like to know how :) |
| 04:49.37 | SlayerXP | Bogaurd: add them to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh |
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| 04:50.12 | Bogaurd | excellent, thanks SlayerXP and cast. :) |
| 04:50.39 | dondelelcaro | or better, write your own init.d script so you don't pollute bootmisc. |
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| 04:51.14 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: is there a linux/unix google earth client? |
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| 04:51.18 | dondelelcaro | (or use @reboot in crontab...) |
| 04:51.21 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: no idea. |
| 04:51.26 | dusk | anyone good with fglrx (ati vid drivers) and getting direct rendering to work? I have a problem getting DRI to work in 1280 (it works in 1024.. but ONLY in 1024 and I cant change out of it) |
| 04:51.55 | Bogaurd | dondelelcaro: if i want to make my own script, how can i set it to run at system startup? |
| 04:52.00 | AlienX | why am i getting gtk warnings saying I cannot open remote display on every app I'm using from a remote machine? Is this just a simple gdm config or what do I need to do to resolve this? |
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| 04:52.23 | servus | AlienX: Is SSH X11 forwarding enabled in your /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? |
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| 04:53.27 | AlienX | servus, yeah, it is |
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| 04:54.23 | servus | AlienX: And your /etc/ssh/ssh_config also allows for ForwardX11 yes ? |
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| 04:54.58 | dusk | which ATI drivers should I use for debian? |
| 04:55.10 | AlienX | servus, X11Forwarding yes |
| 04:55.10 | AlienX | X11DisplayOffset 10 |
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| 04:56.46 | AlienX | servus, actually, i take that back |
| 04:57.22 | AlienX | servus, it's listed as no in my ssh_config. Fixed that problem :) |
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| 04:58.09 | Steakk | Anyone else have problems /msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 04:58.10 | servus | OK. well... |
| 04:58.11 | Steakk | ack |
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| 04:58.24 | Steakk | Anyone else have problems with apt, and kdeaddons ? (not included right now?) |
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| 04:59.36 | sparr_ | does anyone package mozilla extensions as debian packages? |
| 04:59.51 | AlienX | servus, nope, same problem |
| 05:00.40 | AlienX | steve@iapetus:~$ ethereal |
| 05:00.40 | AlienX | (ethereal:19003): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 05:01.15 | servus | Try looking in the man etheral for a way to specify host. |
| 05:01.26 | servus | Did you restart sshd and reconnect, after fixing the server's sshd_config? |
| 05:01.31 | AlienX | servus, it's for every gtk app though. |
| 05:01.38 | AlienX | servus, yeah i did |
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| 05:02.03 | servus | And it was on your client that you fixed /etc/ssh/ssh_config, and the server that you fixed /etc/ssh/sshd_config? Otherwise, I'm out of ideas. |
| 05:02.31 | AlienX | servus, yeah, sshd_config was just fine on the server |
| 05:02.38 | AlienX | thanks for the help though |
| 05:03.03 | poop | OS9 is just too hard to maintain on my parent's old mac from here, so I'm taking some debian cd's with me this week. |
| 05:03.28 | SuperSox | poop: are you 100% sure they will thank you? |
| 05:03.35 | poop | 14 is a bit much, I hope the first 2 have useful stuff on them |
| 05:03.56 | poop | SuperSox: Well, they haven't been able to send e-mail in a couple of months, so we'll see :) |
| 05:04.04 | SuperSox | poop: :) |
| 05:04.07 | poop | And AIM hangs the machine. |
| 05:04.34 | SuperSox | I turned a friend of mine over to the darkside, I was aprehensive at first, but she loves her debian laptop |
| 05:04.56 | SuperSox | basically because her flatmates can't break it |
| 05:05.17 | poop | They run unstable at work. I think they're nuts.` |
| 05:05.30 | SuperSox | I'm running unstable on my laptop and my desktop |
| 05:05.42 | SuperSox | ironically, stable was crashing all the time :) |
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| 05:07.34 | poop | well, you must have modern hardware or something |
| 05:07.50 | poop | Did you run it by the debian hardware approval strike force? |
| 05:07.54 | poop | (before buying it) |
| 05:07.58 | AlienX | heh |
| 05:08.03 | SuperSox | I do, amd64 and a sata hard disk :) |
| 05:08.20 | poop | You probably just needed a recent kernel. |
| 05:08.23 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: yuck, so old and slow. |
| 05:08.41 | poop | I had to go unstable to avoid having to build firewire and mythtv debs myself. |
| 05:08.51 | SuperSox | poop: yip, but I was getting horendous errors trying to get 2.6 to boot on stable or testing |
| 05:08.58 | SuperSox | I didn't have time to diagnose them |
| 05:09.11 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: it's all a impoverished student like myself can afford :) |
| 05:09.13 | poop | hmm, stable includes a 2.6 kernel |
| 05:09.18 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: that's a kernel issue, nothing to do with the distro, really. |
| 05:09.36 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: a little from column a and a little from column b |
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| 05:09.59 | SuperSox | it's a known problem, booting a 2.6 kernel results in a pivot_root error and a kernel panic |
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| 05:10.15 | SlayerXP | poop: you have my sympathies |
| 05:10.40 | poop | opteron is on top for now, but G5 will surge ahead (of course by then we'll have Intel macs) |
| 05:10.43 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: most hardware stores sell cheaper doorstops. |
| 05:10.50 | poop | ahead again that is |
| 05:11.05 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: my digital penis envy as at an all time high right now.... |
| 05:11.23 | kjetilho | I can play a mean game of zblast on it! |
| 05:11.42 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: best not mention the 4 channel 3ware sata raid card then |
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| 05:12.51 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p9434896.html |
| 05:13.04 | cast | so if i grab the bash3 source deb, how would i change the compile flags? i want tcp/ip support |
| 05:13.17 | Guerin | cast: edit debian/rules |
| 05:13.19 | cast | i have to set a ./configure switch |
| 05:13.21 | cast | ahhh |
| 05:13.23 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: Cooler Master AC101? |
| 05:13.30 | SlayerXP | bash has tcp/ip support? |
| 05:13.33 | SuperSox | err |
| 05:13.40 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: Cooler Master ATCS101? |
| 05:13.42 | SuperSox | the case |
| 05:13.48 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: "centurion" |
| 05:13.53 | SlayerXP | no idea as to the product code |
| 05:13.54 | cast | SlayerXP: yeah, you can pipe in/out of a tcp/udp con |
| 05:14.08 | SuperSox | looks identical to my ATCS101 (which is not a centurion) |
| 05:14.20 | SuperSox | well, mine predates the centurion, yours has a blow hole at the top yeah? |
| 05:14.25 | SlayerXP | yup |
| 05:14.33 | SlayerXP | with a squeaky fan right now |
| 05:14.36 | SuperSox | mine doesn't :) |
| 05:14.42 | SuperSox | I think that's the only difference |
| 05:14.45 | SlayerXP | the postman should be brining me a new one this morning |
| 05:14.48 | poop | cast: And that's better than using netcat in the unix tradition of tools for specific purposes all chained up? |
| 05:15.00 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: what graphics card is in there? |
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| 05:15.12 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: radeon 9800xt w/ 256mb |
| 05:15.17 | cast | poop: hush :\ |
| 05:15.30 | poop | cast: well, at least you can write non-portable scripts |
| 05:15.30 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: x850 PE w/256mb ;) |
| 05:15.38 | Guerin | poop: heh |
| 05:15.39 | cast | poop: imho its in the tradition of all things are a file :> |
| 05:16.06 | SuperSox | well, at the moment it's an nvidia Ti4200, the ati is in for repairs |
| 05:16.29 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: my next upgrade is a new gfx card, but that means a new mobo, and I can't find a dual opty board with pci express, split memory banks and dual-core capable |
| 05:16.49 | SuperSox | I don't have nearly enough ram, only 512mb :( |
| 05:16.57 | SlayerXP | me either, only 2Gb :) |
| 05:17.11 | poop | SuperSox: running out a lot? |
| 05:17.28 | SuperSox | poop: I do a lot of work at the moment with virtual machines, so the extra ram would be nice |
| 05:17.40 | poop | yes, that can eat it up |
| 05:17.52 | SuperSox | unfortunately, I don't have any money or an income :) |
| 05:18.12 | SlayerXP | aka student :) |
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| 05:18.28 | poop | memory is free |
| 05:18.39 | SuperSox | I've got a girlfriend who is six years my junior however, so it's not all doom and gloom :) |
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| 05:19.00 | SlayerXP | actually, my very next upgrade for this box will be a modular power supply to clean up the cable clutter |
| 05:19.12 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: you date a 10 year old? :) |
| 05:19.37 | poop | Can you train them properly if you get them young? |
| 05:19.44 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: there's a few. some taiwanese bloke got it ages 11 |
| 05:19.50 | SlayerXP | aged |
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| 05:20.00 | SuperSox | SlayerXP: it's an impressive box you got there... slightly overshadowed my friends cluster however ;) |
| 05:20.39 | SlayerXP | SuperSox: I wonder if it beats my old cluster, 200 dual pentium3-733s :) |
| 05:20.42 | SuperSox | even if the thing does take up an entire cupboard and heats the whole flat :) |
| 05:20.50 | SlayerXP | (I used to work for Yahoo as a DC manager) |
| 05:21.05 | SuperSox | they bought this one, it only cost a grand |
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| 05:21.33 | SlayerXP | cor |
| 05:21.38 | SlayerXP | I forgot I took this photo: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p10333836.html |
| 05:22.06 | SuperSox | they are upgrading it to a 200 node Pentium 4 (or opteron) cluster soonish however |
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| 05:27.25 | verden01 | hi i'm trying to install kde 3.4.1 and hava changed my sources.list to include deb http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1/ ./ but when i go to do an apt-get update i get this message Couldn't stat source package list http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org ./ Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org_kde-3.4.1_._Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 05:27.26 | verden01 | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 05:27.26 | verden01 | E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instead. any ideas? |
| 05:27.44 | erird | je veux configurer un mail serveur qui peu maider??\ |
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| 05:28.26 | SuperSox | verden01: it looks like your deb line is wrong, however I'm not entirely sure what it should be |
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| 05:28.47 | verden01 | k |
| 05:30.02 | SuperSox | !tell verden01 about kde |
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| 05:30.35 | SuperSox | *shrug* sorry it's not overly helpful, but might kick you in the right direction :) |
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| 05:31.30 | dusk | verden, put a src line in there |
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| 05:32.36 | dusk | erird: im assuming youre french, #debian-fr |
| 05:32.49 | stew | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.4.1 is 404 |
| 05:33.01 | stew | http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org |
| 05:33.07 | stew | ^^^ lists some other options |
| 05:33.13 | stew | verden01: ask #debian-kde |
| 05:33.32 | verden01 | k i'm doing that now :-) |
| 05:33.42 | stew | verden01: you are running sarge? |
| 05:34.20 | verden01 | yeah |
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| 05:36.00 | cast | hmm |
| 05:36.19 | cast | anyone know of a scheme to generate binary diffs of a file without having the said file? |
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| 05:36.40 | lfs | HUH???? |
| 05:36.52 | poop | What are you diffing against? |
| 05:36.59 | RandomGuy | how do I get to the terminal without loading DM on startup? |
| 05:37.18 | kjetilho | what's the name of the package with basic headers? <stdio.h> and stuff |
| 05:37.26 | Guerin | !b-e kjetilho |
| 05:37.27 | dpkg | kjetilho: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 05:37.27 | cast | nothing, yet, since i don't know if theres a program i can use for this |
| 05:37.36 | verden01 | try booting into recovery mode |
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| 05:37.46 | Guerin | cast: how would you go about diffing something against an unknown quantity? |
| 05:38.38 | kjetilho | Guerin: cool, thanks, although I think I'll make do with libc6-dev :) |
| 05:39.01 | cast | Guerin: well, imagine a special index file you generate of the unknown quantity, say the hash of every 250kb, its far far more space efficient then keeping the original around just for diffing against, thought your diffs would be much bigger [working in 250kb blocks] |
| 05:39.01 | smard | hi all, I just completed installing my 2.6.14 kernel but just before my login prompt shows, my console flashes on and off for about 3-4 times, is that normal? |
| 05:39.15 | cast | s/thought/though |
| 05:39.28 | kjetilho | smard: sounds like xdm or gdm trying to start X and failing? |
| 05:39.36 | Guerin | cast: ok. |
| 05:39.52 | Guerin | cast: trivially doable with unix tools |
| 05:40.07 | smard | kjetilho yeah, it shows xdm trying to load just before the prompt. how do I stop xdm from trying to load? |
| 05:40.13 | cast | Guerin: if you call trivial > 20 lines :\ |
| 05:40.26 | Guerin | cast: more trivial than that |
| 05:40.52 | SlayerXP | the CPU overhead would eb huge though |
| 05:41.08 | Guerin | cast: use split to hack it up into files of $size, sha-1 each, record hash numbers to a file, delete or recombine as necessary |
| 05:41.08 | cast | i can generate the hash of each block easily enough [lets call that the index], but generation of the diff from the index and the current is tricky |
| 05:41.18 | SlayerXP | and updated the remote file would be impractical |
| 05:41.40 | SlayerXP | cast: why not use something that handles binary diffs well instead? |
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| 05:43.08 | cast | Guerin: what if the new version of the file had the first byte deleted? then what if it was the first 100kb? its non-trivial to find out whre one chunk begins and ends when any number could have been modified without calling the hash function a unreasonable amount of times |
| 05:43.11 | SlayerXP | plus, if you shorten the file, you have to recalculate everything from the block with the change onwards |
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| 05:43.18 | cast | SlayerXP: well, im looking for such a program |
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| 05:43.32 | cast | SlayerXP: but with this particular feature :> |
| 05:43.46 | SlayerXP | cast: svn does. make a 1kb change to a 100Mb file and the diff you send will be about 1k |
| 05:43.59 | kaye | hi |
| 05:44.05 | kaye | anyone? |
| 05:44.10 | kaye | can we chat... |
| 05:44.11 | Guerin | !anyone |
| 05:44.11 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 05:44.13 | SlayerXP | kaye: no, there's no-one here. |
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| 05:44.34 | smard | if I want to stop xdm from trying to load at startup, is all I do is ju remove the script from /etc/init.d ? |
| 05:44.38 | cast | SlayerXP: i thought svn caches the original file so all it has to do is diff oldver newver? |
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| 05:44.42 | Guerin | smard: no. |
| 05:44.48 | Guerin | smard: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 05:44.52 | SlayerXP | cast: it does that as well. |
| 05:44.58 | kaye | its my first time to be here and i dont know what to do here.... |
| 05:45.06 | kaye | can you teach me how? |
| 05:45.11 | Guerin | kaye: just watch for an hour or so |
| 05:45.14 | SlayerXP | kaye: how to do _what_ ? |
| 05:45.14 | Guerin | kaye: no. |
| 05:45.15 | poop | smard: Remove the links /etc/rc?.d/S??xdm |
| 05:45.29 | Guerin | poop: still not the best idea |
| 05:46.03 | poop | Guerin: Is there a debianized procedure for sysvinit? |
| 05:46.03 | relaxed | smard: install rcconf, run it, uncheck xdm |
| 05:46.15 | Guerin | poop: of course there is. |
| 05:46.32 | poop | Debian, you so crazy |
| 05:46.44 | kaye | hey can we chat? |
| 05:46.51 | Guerin | kaye: no. |
| 05:46.52 | poop | Wanna cyber? |
| 05:46.52 | kaye | well im not crazy... |
| 05:47.03 | cast | SlayerXP: so how would i use svn to make a diff between a file i no longer have available [but had available at one time or another] and the modified version of that file? |
| 05:47.12 | poop | kaye: For the first few months, just idle and listen |
| 05:47.25 | Michieru | kaye: AOL has a place where you can chat and meet "friends" |
| 05:47.31 | Guerin | kaye: this is a channel for the Debian project, a free software operating system. |
| 05:47.36 | SlayerXP | cast: I wouldn't, you're solving the wrong problem, imo |
| 05:47.56 | Guerin | kaye: if you want to talk about that, please do. if you want to talk about anything else, you're offtopic |
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| 05:48.14 | SlayerXP | Guerin: are you sure? I thought this was where all the bored 21 year old blondes went when they were feeling lonely? |
| 05:48.21 | Guerin | unless it's how bad modern music is, beer, or any number of other thingds |
| 05:48.42 | Guerin | SlayerXP: just because you're here doesn't mean we're ALL 21 year-old blondes, SlayerXP |
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| 05:49.32 | cast | SlayerXP: the problem is how to generate a diff of a and b when all you have is: some set of information derived from that is a fraction of the size of a; and b |
| 05:49.39 | cast | ahh shit, hit enter again |
| 05:50.06 | cast | SlayerXP: the problem is how to generate a diff of $a and $b when all you have is: some set of information derived from $a that is a fraction of the size of $a; and $b |
| 05:51.10 | ericrar | how to clean the debian menu ............ |
| 05:51.40 | ericrar | there are a lot program.......i am uninstall it |
| 05:57.19 | ryanium | is there a packet i need to install to compile c programs? |
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| 05:57.20 | ryanium | is there a packet i need to install to compile c programs? |
| 05:57.20 | ryanium | packet = package sorry |
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| 05:58.35 | ryanium | is there a package i need to install to compile c programs? |
| 05:58.35 | SlayerXP | ryanium: yes. |
| 05:58.36 | Guerin | ryanium: can you compile c programs? |
| 05:58.36 | phyberoptix | wb x infinity |
| 05:58.36 | Guerin | ryanium: if not, you need to install a package. |
| 05:58.36 | ryanium | i can't :P, which? |
| 05:58.36 | Guerin | !b-e |
| 05:58.36 | dpkg | If you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to apt-get install build-essential. |
| 05:58.36 | SlayerXP | ryanium: what are you trying to compile? |
| 05:58.36 | Guerin | SlayerXP: a c program, duh. |
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| 05:58.37 | goodgirl | Hello, I would like to install debian, but the installer (tried linux26 as well as expert26) doesnt detect my Thinkpads SATA hdd, I read all the linux on laptops, thinkwiki, etc and the best tips I found were to use expert26, and I couldn't get that right |
| 05:58.37 | smard | If I manually installed a kernel and wanted to get rid of it later, do I just remove the source (/usr/src), the modules (/lib/modules), the boot files (/boot) and the entry in the grub list (/boot/grub/menu.lst) ?? |
| 05:58.37 | Guerin | BAHAHAHA -> http://www.theonion.com/content/node/29949 |
| 05:58.37 | SlayerXP | smard: that's certainly one option, yes. |
| 05:58.37 | smard | SlayerXP would that get rid of everything of that kernel?? |
| 05:58.37 | Guerin | goodgirl: is your sata controller supported by the linux mainline kernel? And if so, since when? |
| 05:58.37 | SlayerXP | smard: seems like it. |
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| 05:58.37 | SlayerXP | smard: you may wish to pass high voltage electric currents across your hard disk platters though, just to be sure. |
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| 05:58.41 | smard | right |
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| 05:58.41 | smard | i |
| 05:58.41 | smard | i'll ask a friend to help |
| 05:58.41 | goodgirl | with mainline kernel do you mean any 2.6 kernel? if so yes cause I ran other distributions with 2.6 kernel on it, like knoppix, auditor - and it works for other people with the same laptop - other people got it to install on the same hardware, but they don't explain in detail how |
| 05:58.42 | ryanium | when i try to use apt-get i get depends g++ and libc6, how can i force these packages to be installed also? |
| 05:58.42 | ryanium | apt-get install build-essentials that is |
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| 05:59.55 | SlayerXP | ryanium: what are you trying to compile? |
| 06:00.07 | SlayerXP | that chances of you actually needing to compile anything are pretty remote |
| 06:00.07 | ryanium | just a simple .c program from a friend lol |
| 06:00.11 | smard | I someimes install new programs but the man pages database isn't upgraded. do I have to create a startup script so that the databases are updated? |
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| 06:00.31 | SlayerXP | ryanium: interesting, can we see? |
| 06:00.54 | findme | how do I run ifup ath0 ; after pcmcia-cs has been loaded. Module |
| 06:00.59 | cast | smard: its in cron isnt it? daily? |
| 06:01.02 | ryanium | yeah sure ill also give you root password to my computer? |
| 06:01.03 | caphuso | smard: man-db gets executed together with all the other cron.daily stuff |
| 06:01.10 | findme | right now it runs before pcmcia is loaded hence it fails |
| 06:01.23 | Guerin | goodgirl: the important factor is WHICH version of the 2.6 kernel. The sarge installer uses 2.6.8. If it was added more recently than that, you'll need to use another installer. |
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| 06:01.53 | Siafu | Is it possible to specify which processor a task is run on? |
| 06:02.04 | SlayerXP | Siafu: yes, you can set process affinity |
| 06:02.23 | Siafu | SlayerXP: what do I need to do that? |
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| 06:02.36 | SlayerXP | Siafu: apt-get install schedutils |
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| 06:03.13 | goodgirl | Guerin: I see, then I would be f****d cause I can't download another iso (thats south african Telcom 3GB ADSL hardcap for you_ the iso I have is debian-31r0a-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 06:03.15 | Siafu | SlayerXP: ok, that's in. now what? |
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| 06:03.33 | SlayerXP | Siafu: dpkg -L schedutils | grep bin |
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| 06:03.48 | jair_11 | anybody here have used before the ddclient perl application? |
| 06:04.02 | cast | goodgirl: oh you don't have to download entire iso's, most of that iso is pkgs you may or may not need/use |
| 06:04.18 | Guerin | goodgirl: well, check to see if that's the case. If you have ANY spare cap left, you might get it working with an etch installer - the smallest are ~40MB. |
| 06:05.00 | goodgirl | ok thanks |
| 06:05.05 | Guerin | goodgirl: once done, you might even get away with using the sarge cd you have as a package repository, though I've never used the etch installers. |
| 06:05.25 | cast | goodgirl: a fair few isps run mirrors that don't count towards caps, too |
| 06:05.44 | Guerin | right, there's probably one run by your isp in .za |
| 06:06.45 | goodgirl | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:06.56 | Guerin | bah |
| 06:07.02 | Guerin | i love telecomms monopolies |
| 06:07.48 | smard | caphuso ah I knew it had to be somewhere. thing is though my machine isn't left on most of the time, so I just put a startup script with /usr/bin/mandb |
| 06:08.55 | SlayerXP | it would be illegal to cap an unmetered connection here |
| 06:08.55 | SlayerXP | a capped connection isn't unmetered by definition |
| 06:08.56 | jair_11 | I am looking for a good dynamic updater for unix/linux I am hosting my own site but I have a dsl connection and the ip address is dynamic. |
| 06:08.56 | SlayerXP | jair_11: there's several dydns clients out there |
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| 06:08.56 | Guerin | jair_11: ddclient is one |
| 06:09.02 | caphuso | smard: nonsense. use anacron |
| 06:09.55 | cast | SlayerXP: im sure here they market 'unlimited' but cap you at 64/64 when you hit some set limit |
| 06:10.09 | SlayerXP | cast: that would also be illegal here. |
| 06:10.14 | smard | caphuso ah, didn't know about anacron. cheers |
| 06:11.10 | Guerin | it's up there in the squibibytes |
| 06:11.25 | cast | hmmm, x just closed on me |
| 06:11.27 | Phated | Heh. |
| 06:11.31 | Phated | Squibibytes. |
| 06:11.48 | jair_11 | Guerin, I am checking something with ddclient that I have to be subscribed with dyndns.org? |
| 06:12.00 | jair_11 | Guerin, but I have already one account with no-ip.com |
| 06:12.15 | jair_11 | could I use that one maybe in the text configuration file |
| 06:12.21 | Guerin | jair_11: how was *I* supposed to guess that? |
| 06:12.33 | Guerin | jair_11: i don't use them, I have real dns |
| 06:12.34 | SlayerXP | Guerin: your're psychic, duh. |
| 06:12.38 | Guerin | !rtfm |
| 06:12.38 | dpkg | it has been said that rtfm is Read The Fucking Manual. If you want to ask a question about foo, please read man foo; before asking. If there isn't a manpage about foo, use apropos to find one. Reading manuals helps us help you. [You might try info foo as well.] or Read Their Fucking Minds. |
| 06:12.51 | Guerin | My bad. I didn't RTFM. |
| 06:13.19 | jair_11 | Guerin, it is ok bith smart asses do not talk to me then, I can ask the 736 other humble Linux users. now peace off |
| 06:13.22 | SlayerXP | Guerin: there's FTFM too, that can be hard. |
| 06:13.33 | SlayerXP | Guerin: think "Henry Gilbert" |
| 06:13.40 | Guerin | jair_11: easy, tiger. |
| 06:13.44 | SlayerXP | jair_11: 735 |
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| 06:15.37 | smard | what about wtfitfm |
| 06:15.57 | nile | haha |
| 06:17.12 | caphuso | jair_11: you could, if you manage to spare a few braincells from insulting people with a clue, try "apt-cache search home-ip.com" or a google search for "home-ip.com linux" |
| 06:18.01 | jair_11 | caphuso, ok, I have a service similar than dyndns.org but is call no-ip.com |
| 06:18.08 | cast | par2 rocks. |
| 06:18.27 | caphuso | jair_11: then fucking apt-cache search it. and it that fails, google |
| 06:18.33 | caphuso | jair_11: now stop being as stupid as a stool |
| 06:18.41 | jair_11 | caphuso, and since the ddclient configuration file use the client but from that site dyndns.org which is very similar than no-ip.com |
| 06:19.06 | SlayerXP | caphuso: for some people, IRC is a write-only medium |
| 06:19.07 | caphuso | jair_11: ddclient does _not_ support no-ip.com |
| 06:19.10 | jair_11 | caphuso, I did not insult you right? |
| 06:19.24 | jair_11 | caphuso, thank you that is the answer I was trying to find |
| 06:19.26 | caphuso | jair_11: no, you insulted Guerin. and then i insulted you |
| 06:19.33 | jair_11 | caphuso, haha ok |
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| 06:19.43 | caphuso | SlayerXP: obviously |
| 06:19.44 | jair_11 | caphuso, I am sorry but they were smart with me |
| 06:19.53 | jair_11 | but is ok |
| 06:20.03 | jair_11 | I apologize, havent have a good day ;) |
| 06:20.05 | caphuso | hell, that guy hasn't been able to remember who insulted who |
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| 06:20.11 | SlayerXP | we're smart with everyone, it's called "being smart" |
| 06:20.15 | smard | its amazing how hostile irc can be sometimes |
| 06:20.19 | jair_11 | good |
| 06:20.32 | cast | smard: indeed, were you the one commenting on #deb rep? |
| 06:20.35 | jair_11 | contonue smart, I will try to learn |
| 06:20.46 | jair_11 | haha |
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| 06:21.19 | jair_11 | peace ok let's focus on Linux :) |
| 06:21.35 | SlayerXP | what's a linux? |
| 06:21.49 | smard | cast nope |
| 06:21.51 | jair_11 | caphuso, so I will need to get a membership with dyndns.org |
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| 06:22.38 | jair_11 | caphuso, I was checking this one too. Java Dynamic DNS Client. |
| 06:22.40 | SlayerXP | jair_11: why not just use the no-ip update tool ? |
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| 06:22.55 | SlayerXP | the one that's in the debian package tree |
| 06:23.09 | SlayerXP | the one you were told to search for about 10 minutes ago |
| 06:23.14 | ocran | I just installed testing, via network, previous to this I was running testing, a fresh install was needed and now sound is not working, wondering if there is a know problem? Alas and intel i810. |
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| 06:23.36 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, I have that tool and work but then I think i will need to map the zoneedit zone -> jair.no-ip.com which is the updater page and client |
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| 06:23.45 | SlayerXP | Description: A second-generation Linux client for dynamic DNS service |
| 06:23.45 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:24.01 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, correct |
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| 06:25.00 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, they give me the name: jair.no-ip.com as the dns name updated each time my debian server boots. but zone edit ask me for the ip address so I will test to see if I can add the name instead |
| 06:25.32 | SlayerXP | they make take a CNAME |
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| 06:25.56 | SlayerXP | or do what I do, and have a little script which works out what IP I've been given and go from there |
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| 06:27.29 | SlayerXP | damn turkey |
| 06:27.40 | cast | 3.0G graphics |
| 06:27.42 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, really thanks |
| 06:27.46 | cast | wow, thats alot of pictures |
| 06:27.51 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, I will check the zoneedit page |
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| 06:28.02 | jair_11 | I should be able of wrok this out with no-ip |
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| 06:29.04 | myren | why would a system not be able to resolve a domain name? |
| 06:29.07 | myren | any domain name |
| 06:29.42 | pureone | myren dns is down or you screwed up /etc/resolv.conf :) |
| 06:29.45 | SlayerXP | myren: the network cable is unplugged |
| 06:29.46 | jair_11 | myren, the no-ip client I have updates the ip all the time but to the name jair.no-ip.com |
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| 06:29.59 | myren | /etc/resolv.conf is nameserver 4.2.2.2... thats not broken |
| 06:30.08 | SlayerXP | myren: the machine is not actually switched on |
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| 06:30.10 | myren | furthermore i'm ssh'd into the system |
| 06:30.17 | myren | and it is responding |
| 06:30.19 | jair_11 | myren, and I have my dns servers pointing to my real domain www.pcguruji.com |
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| 06:30.48 | SlayerXP | myren: now why didn't you give all the info whenb you asked your question, rather than making us guess? |
| 06:31.07 | myren | sry, just tired and confused |
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| 06:31.27 | SlayerXP | that dns server works for me |
| 06:31.31 | jair_11 | I will continue reading tomorrow about this dynamic stuff for now I have to change the ips manually hahaha everyday. |
| 06:31.40 | myren | i can ping 4.2.2.2, i can dig ip addresses, but i cannot just ping google.com |
| 06:31.44 | jair_11 | SlayerXP, which one you use? the script? |
| 06:31.52 | SlayerXP | myren: what does ping have to do with dns? |
| 06:31.59 | SlayerXP | jair_11: one I wrote |
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| 06:32.14 | jair_11 | wget -O - --http-user=username --http-passwd=password 'http://dynamic.zoneedit.com/auth/dynamic.html?host=www.mydomain.com' |
| 06:32.14 | myren | ping requires you to resolve a dns |
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| 06:32.25 | SlayerXP | myren: no it doesn;t |
| 06:32.29 | pureone | not if you give a ip |
| 06:32.33 | myren | it does if you enter a domain name |
| 06:32.39 | myren | thats why i fucking said ping google.com |
| 06:32.44 | SlayerXP | myren: then don't enter a hostname |
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| 06:32.48 | pureone | ooo touchy |
| 06:32.59 | myren | dig is the only app i have still resolving domain names |
| 06:33.01 | SlayerXP | myren: why would being able to resolve a hostname allow you to ping said host? |
| 06:33.02 | jair_11 | my question is that line or this one: lynx -source -auth=username:password 'http://dynamic.zoneedit.com/auth/dynamic.html?host=www.mydomain.com' update the ip address even if change?? and I am not in the router? |
| 06:33.02 | myren | of course i'm fucking touchy |
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| 06:33.44 | SlayerXP | maybe something between you and google isn't allowing ping packets to pass. |
| 06:34.18 | myren | standard ping utility has a header that shows the resolved ip ddress of what its pinging |
| 06:34.22 | myren | it doesnt get that far |
| 06:34.26 | myren | it hangs waiting to resolve |
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| 06:34.48 | SlayerXP | myren: ping -n <ip> |
| 06:34.50 | myren | none of my netapps work with domain names anymore. but i'm ssh'ing into the machine, and i can |
| 06:34.56 | pureone | what does nslookup google.com say ? |
| 06:34.58 | myren | -n not necessary |
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| 06:35.16 | myren | nslookup & dig both resolve google ip's |
| 06:35.33 | jair_11 | good night guys |
| 06:35.35 | pureone | then its possible ICMP is being blocked |
| 06:35.39 | jair_11 | I will be back tomorrow ;) |
| 06:35.43 | pureone | nc -v google.com 80 |
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| 06:37.16 | myren | must have been a hickup on my ISP. transfers are flowing again |
| 06:37.31 | myren | ping is working again |
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| 06:38.49 | SlayerXP | myren: that's okay, don't apologise for being rude to people not being paid to help you, I love being yelled at by people having a bad day. |
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| 06:40.21 | myren | if you were attempting to be helpful, thank you. you'll forgive me if i forgot to realize the obvious brilliance of your suggestions. |
| 06:40.47 | jm_ | let's not start about your questions then |
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| 06:41.11 | myren | resolv isnt fscking working is fairly clear |
| 06:41.41 | jm_ | "Doctor, why would my arm hurt?" - yes, pretty fucking obvious ... |
| 06:41.43 | SlayerXP | hey Goran |
| 06:41.46 | jm_ | SlayerXP: morning |
| 06:48.45 | karsten | jm_: $LOCALTIME |
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| 06:49.34 | jm_ | karsten: ditto :) |
| 06:49.39 | SlayerXP | ...and the first virus of the day bounces off the mail server |
| 06:49.47 | sparr_ | why is 'Reading Database...' so slow for dpkg? what exactly is it doing? |
| 06:50.38 | jm_ | sparr_: read a lot of the file under /var/lib/dpkg I suppose |
| 06:50.39 | jm_ | files |
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| 06:51.39 | SlayerXP | jm_: i was actually thinking of that old joke where a patient complains to a doctor that he can't feel his legs |
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| 06:52.10 | SlayerXP | jm_: after a long a hard diagnoses, the patient finally gets round to mentioning that his arms have been cut off |
| 06:52.23 | SlayerXP | long and |
| 06:53.03 | jm_ | SlayerXP: haha |
| 06:53.11 | sparr_ | jm_: read and do what? ive got 10k files there using up 100MB. whatever dpkg is doing with them is slower than copying them all multiple times |
| 06:54.22 | jm_ | sparr_: well you could always check its source code - and you're not the first one complaining about the speed of it |
| 06:55.03 | sparr_ | probably waste 10 minutes a day waiting for it |
| 06:55.15 | jm_ | you must have a really slow machine |
| 06:55.16 | kjetilho | if you're complaining about the speed of dpkg -- never try Fedora: yum will drive you nutty |
| 06:55.21 | SlayerXP | get a faster hard disk |
| 06:55.40 | sparr_ | what is it doing? |
| 06:55.50 | sparr_ | i can copy every file from /var/lib/dpkg faster than its doing whatever its doing |
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| 06:56.34 | jm_ | just applying some logice suggests it has to read through all *.files in there |
| 06:56.56 | jm_ | sorry *.list |
| 06:57.07 | SlayerXP | sparr_: blindly copying a file is different to interpreting it |
| 06:57.23 | sparr_ | SlayerXP: not in terms of drive speed |
| 06:57.36 | jm_ | maybe strace it and see where it spends the most time |
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| 06:57.42 | tcsetattr | is it mostly disk-bound or CPU-bound? maybe parsing is the problem. Or maybe it's swapping. |
| 06:57.50 | sparr_ | ive got a gig of ram |
| 06:57.54 | sparr_ | and nothing else 'big' running |
| 06:57.55 | SlayerXP | sparr_: oh really? what's quicker? copying the file containing a sql table? or walking a tree index in the sql datastructure? |
| 06:58.30 | sparr_ | SlayerXP: no file in that directory is large enough to NOT load it to memory before doing random-access-intense stuff |
| 06:58.37 | jm_ | kjetilho: it is? I noticed it works much faster ever since they have rewritten it (4.0 vs 3.0 I think, don't remember exact version) |
| 06:58.48 | sparr_ | if dpkg is doing nonsequential access to those files, THATS the problem |
| 06:58.55 | sparr_ | well, part of the problem |
| 06:59.01 | jm_ | sparr_: you're welcome to rewrite it like that, we'll love it ;) |
| 06:59.11 | sparr_ | i dont even know what its doing |
| 06:59.15 | sparr_ | i mean, the end goal |
| 06:59.28 | sparr_ | so it reads "the database" |
| 06:59.37 | sparr_ | whats it a database of? what does it use the information for? |
| 06:59.45 | tcsetattr | well, you could `apt-get source dpkg` and find out. |
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| 07:00.27 | caphuso | 07:59:27 write(1, "(Reading database ... ", 22) = 22 |
| 07:00.32 | caphuso | 07:59:28 write(1, "150508 files and directories cur"..., 51) = 51 |
| 07:00.43 | tcsetattr | when does it say that? when you install stuff? |
| 07:00.47 | caphuso | geez, a whole second, and i do not have a gig of ram |
| 07:00.53 | caphuso | tcsetattr: dpkg -i foo.deb |
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| 07:01.01 | caphuso | tcsetattr: same for dpkg -P foo |
| 07:01.11 | tcsetattr | interesting how dpkg -l does not involve "Reading database". |
| 07:01.37 | caphuso | tcsetattr: that doesn't involve tons of stuff like 07:59:27 open("/var/lib/dpkg/info/libgsl0-dev.list", O_RDONLY|O_LARGEFILE) = 7 |
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| 07:01.56 | tcsetattr | maybe it's building the dependency tree? |
| 07:02.01 | jm_ | tcsetattr: why would it? |
| 07:02.12 | SlayerXP | maybe it's crunching RSA keys for the NSA |
| 07:02.14 | jm_ | it only has to read status for for -l |
| 07:02.27 | tcsetattr | because dpkg -l is essentially a dump of quite a few different aspects of the database (package names, versions, installation states) |
| 07:02.43 | jm_ | all of that is stored in status file |
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| 07:03.10 | SlayerXP | jm_: did you know tat you have a virus variant named after you? |
| 07:03.13 | SlayerXP | that |
| 07:03.15 | tcsetattr | so the status file is not "the database" that is referred to by "Reading database"? that's what we're trying to determine here. If you know the answer, say so :) |
| 07:03.19 | caphuso | status and available |
| 07:03.39 | jm_ | SlayerXP: which one? |
| 07:03.42 | SlayerXP | jm_: 2005-11-21 07:03:11 1Ee5hk-0007MU-9e H=avelizy-103-1-3-230.w217-128.abo.wanadoo.fr (ballofdirt.com) [217.128.47.230] F=<admin@ballofdirt.com> rejected after DATA: Message contains a virus (Worm.Mytob.JM) |
| 07:03.57 | jm_ | SlayerXP: bwahaha |
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| 07:05.49 | SlayerXP | one of my cats is attempting to east peanut shells |
| 07:06.06 | SlayerXP | correction, one of my cats is eating peanut shells |
| 07:07.57 | karsten | SlayerXP: Probably after the salt on 'em. |
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| 07:08.27 | SlayerXP | karsten: knowing the cat, I'd be tempted to say it's because she's mental |
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| 07:09.12 | SlayerXP | karsten: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p752440.html |
| 07:09.17 | karsten | SlayerXP: You know what Yogi Berra said. |
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| 07:09.29 | karsten | SlayerXP: The first 90%'s all physical... |
| 07:09.32 | SlayerXP | karsten: "I'm smarter than the average bear" |
| 07:09.35 | karsten | SlayerXP: ... and the other 90%'s all mental. |
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| 07:10.08 | karsten | SlayerXP: _What_ are you feeding your cats? |
| 07:10.17 | nvz | I'm smarter than your average beer |
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| 07:10.39 | SlayerXP | karsten: cat food, and the odd bit of poached fish |
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| 07:11.00 | nvz | I need a new bed, I am more relaxed when I am tired and sitting in my chair then after getting out of bed |
| 07:11.10 | karsten | Mmmm. Poached fish. |
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| 07:11.26 | Siafu | what do I need for totem-xine to handle .wmv? |
| 07:11.50 | karsten | SlayerXP: And I miss my cat ... <snif> |
| 07:11.57 | SlayerXP | karsten: oh, and croissant: http://photos.hinterlands.org/p1256309.html |
| 07:11.58 | nvz | Siafu: /msg dpkg marillat |
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| 07:12.11 | nvz | Siafu: get the w32codecs package from there |
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| 07:12.27 | nvz | Siafu: covers QuickTime, Real, and Windows Media formats |
| 07:12.38 | nvz | Siafu: maybe some others too like divx not sure really |
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| 07:14.26 | Siafu | nvz: thank you much |
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| 07:15.18 | nvz | nice to see the spambots are back in full force. I think its quite obvious we can do without 85.100.184.105 or 195.160.186.86 |
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| 07:17.18 | nvz | its also nice of you all to give me the silent treatment |
| 07:17.36 | kjm | no problem |
| 07:17.37 | tcsetattr | blah blah blah |
| 07:17.44 | nvz | If I wasnt have asleep I would come up with an obvious question for everyone to answer at the same time |
| 07:17.49 | dtb | woa.. im getting this: "** (process:10925): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed" at the end of any apt-get install/upgrade is this a ubuntu thing or have i screwed up apt somehow ?? |
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| 07:18.02 | SlayerXP | heh |
| 07:18.07 | nvz | WENAS WHO USES SOUND LOL???1? |
| 07:18.32 | SlayerXP | curious choice of information: "Please note that on most SAS flights, You can check-in 22 hours prior to departure." |
| 07:18.44 | kjm | dtb : why dont you as in #ubuntu |
| 07:19.14 | nvz | check in means what exactly? just check baggage? |
| 07:19.24 | SlayerXP | nvz; pass. |
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| 07:20.08 | nvz | well I havent flown since 9/11 actually I probably havent flown since like 1985.. but I am sure you get a lot of grief and its aplified if done at the last minute anymore |
| 07:21.28 | nvz | its obvious we dont need more airport security |
| 07:21.55 | SlayerXP | we need cast iron planes. |
| 07:22.03 | nvz | people you piss off are always going to hit you where it hurts.. and we will always have a weakness... we need to just stop pissing people off for no good reason |
| 07:22.20 | tcsetattr | no, the planes should be made of Nerf(TM) so the crashes are soft and bouncy |
| 07:22.30 | SlayerXP | the only downside being that planes will occasioanlly be delayed due to bits going rusty and falling off. |
| 07:22.40 | nvz | tcsetattr: heh |
| 07:22.43 | myren | i set my hsot name with the hostname command, now dnsdomainname is saying dnsdomainname: unknown host |
| 07:23.01 | myren | i tried editing /etc/hosts to see if that would refresh the resolver, but it doesnt appera to have done anything |
| 07:23.09 | nvz | tcsetattr: yeah and they will run off 9v batties and spiral through the air glowing |
| 07:23.13 | SlayerXP | myren: your hostname and DNS hostname have very little to do with each other |
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| 07:23.48 | myren | thats great to hear. so how to i un-eviscerate the unrelatedness? |
| 07:24.00 | SlayerXP | fix your DNS |
| 07:24.27 | tcsetattr | or just fix your /etc/hosts; I don't think dnsdomainname actually cares whether you use DNS as long as gethostbyname(gethostname()) works |
| 07:25.11 | myren | yeah, i thought i could just update /etc/hosts and the resolver would see it'd been written to and uptake the changes |
| 07:25.15 | tcsetattr | hostname --fqdn would be a good thing to try. |
| 07:25.41 | myren | yeah, broken. hostname: unknown host |
| 07:25.52 | lunitik | Could someone please give me an example for date -s for todays date at 12:25 am, because I don't seem to be able to figure out the format :( |
| 07:26.37 | tcsetattr | hmmm... I would expect it to accept date -s "12:25 am today" |
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| 07:27.07 | myren | where does the hostname command get stored? |
| 07:27.07 | tcsetattr | the -s is a lot more flexible than the old-fashioned way |
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| 07:27.35 | tcsetattr | myren, fix try uname -n, make sure that shows it. Then check your /etc/hosts |
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| 07:27.51 | tcsetattr | it actually gets stored in the kernel because it's part of uname. |
| 07:28.34 | lunitik | tcsetattr: hmm... it apparently did, thank you :) |
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| 07:29.07 | myren | what is supposed to be in /etc/hostname? |
| 07:29.15 | myren | uname -n is just the short domain name |
| 07:29.29 | SlayerXP | hostname, not domain name |
| 07:29.31 | lunitik | tcsetattr: uname is apparently using UTC, not what I told it to use... and is a further 4 mins off... |
| 07:29.38 | tcsetattr | myren, show us the relevant line of your /etc/hosts |
| 07:29.40 | lunitik | tcsetattr: any way to fix that? |
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| 07:30.10 | tcsetattr | lunitik, the compile time from uname reflects the clock on the computer where the kernel was compiled, not your local clock. It's stored as a text string in the kernel. |
| 07:30.27 | myren | hostname had gotten te fqdn somehow. *shrug |
| 07:30.30 | myren | that fixed it |
| 07:31.05 | lunitik | tcsetattr: everything about it is correct other than the actual time... |
| 07:31.14 | nvz | ntpdate! |
| 07:31.15 | lunitik | tcsetattr: also, ntp appears to not want to run... |
| 07:31.32 | tcsetattr | lunitik, are you complaining about uname or your clock? I'm lost. |
| 07:31.37 | nvz | maybe because its already running |
| 07:31.49 | SlayerXP | lunitik: apt-get install ntpdate; ntpdate pool.ntp.org |
| 07:31.55 | lunitik | tcsetattr: both... although 'date' appears to be correct now... |
| 07:32.42 | lunitik | SlayerXP: keep ntp-simple around? |
| 07:32.52 | tcsetattr | if you want to change the way the compile timestamp is reported by uname -v, compile the kernel again after changing your timezone. Seems a little bit frivolous though. |
| 07:32.55 | SlayerXP | lunitik: up to you. |
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| 07:33.19 | lunitik | SlayerXP: any particular point... or will ntpdate handle everything? |
| 07:33.38 | buckethead- | hello just wanna ask, is dselect still used nowadays ? or apt will be fine ... |
| 07:33.52 | myren | thanks all, working alright now |
| 07:33.55 | SlayerXP | lunitik: if your timezeon is correct, and you have semi-permanent internet access, then ntpdate will just work |
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| 07:35.05 | lunitik | SlayerXP: alright cool, thanks :) |
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| 07:35.28 | lunitik | SlayerXP: any way to correct what uname -a kicks out? cuz its still showing UTC... |
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| 07:35.45 | tcsetattr | like I've been talking to a wall. |
| 07:36.04 | SlayerXP | lunitik: you've been told that already |
| 07:37.06 | nvz | tcsetattr: even a wall would reflect some of the vibrations showing that you made contact |
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| 07:37.57 | tcsetattr | the 2.6.11-powerpc Debian kernel has CEST as the compile time zone. I don't even know where that is. and I can't imagine why I would care. |
| 07:38.20 | lunitik | therefore what tcsetattr said makes no sense :/ |
| 07:38.33 | tcsetattr | lunitik, take off the tin foil ha and pay attention for 5 seconds: uname -a IS TELLING YOU WHEN THE KERNEL WAS COMPILED. |
| 07:38.43 | tcsetattr | uname -a DOES NOT REPORT THE CURRENT TIME! THAT IS NOT ITS JOB! |
| 07:38.54 | lunitik | Linux thasylum 2.6.14-2-k7 #1 Mon Nov 14 15:33:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 07:39.22 | tcsetattr | that's a week ago. |
| 07:39.25 | lunitik | blah.... ok, its saying 14... I didn't see that before :/ |
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| 07:40.25 | tcsetattr | if you look at /proc/version you can see even more information about where the kernel was compiled |
| 07:40.26 | lunitik | 4 years or so, and just figuring that out :/ |
| 07:40.27 | Beleys | Poy |
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| 07:41.41 | jm_ | heh he must have had a lot of time issues in the past |
| 07:42.09 | lunitik | jm_: no actually... because its usually configured fine during install :/ |
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| 07:42.27 | jm_ | lunitik: sure, but if you used uname to get current time ... |
| 07:42.52 | lunitik | jm_: I never did... I just saw the time listed, and figured it was current... |
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| 07:44.14 | coywolf | unsigned long long len = (1<<33); warning: left shift count >= width of type <~~ why? |
| 07:44.19 | lunitik | tcsetattr: sorry for kinda ignoring what you said in regards to uname -a ... thank you for your assistance :) |
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| 07:44.57 | sussudio | !foad |
| 07:44.58 | dpkg | from memory, foad is "fuck off and die". Considered by many to be impolite. |
| 07:45.11 | cast | heh, fuckoffanddie is my chan name :> |
| 07:45.32 | TheCount | !gfas |
| 07:45.36 | tcsetattr | coywolf, the "1" is not a long long. It's just an int. Use 1ULL<<33 |
| 07:45.41 | lunitik | sussudio: that directed at anyone in peticular? |
| 07:45.54 | coywolf | tcsetattr, yeah, i see |
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| 07:46.18 | TheCount | hm, GFAS is missing ;) how can I add it? |
| 07:46.29 | coywolf | should i use __USE_FILE_OFFSET64 or __USE_LARGEFILE64 for truncate64? tcsetattr |
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| 07:46.54 | tcsetattr | ouch, all those file*64 macros are confusing |
| 07:47.20 | tcsetattr | libc.info tells about them though |
| 07:47.42 | sussudio | lunitik: yes |
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| 07:48.56 | nvz | this is off-topic but does anyone know what makes the server show whowas? as opposed to nothing at all? |
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| 07:49.30 | jm_ | nvz: it only keeps the data for certain amount of time |
| 07:49.46 | nvz | jm_: but it does it for all users within a certain time? |
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| 08:13.42 | SerajewelKS | is there a kernel module for skas? |
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| 08:14.13 | SerajewelKS | or do i have to roll my own kernel with the patch? |
| 08:15.28 | loxley_ | SerajewelKS: there's a kernel patch for it ( apt-cache search skas ) |
| 08:15.46 | SerajewelKS | loxley_: that does not answer my question |
| 08:15.55 | SerajewelKS | loxley_: i am aware of the debian package |
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| 08:18.34 | sep | SerajewelKS, i guess you need to roll your own. if the patch was included in the kernel. it woud seam unlikley to have a separate kernel-patch package for it |
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| 08:18.57 | SerajewelKS | so basically i want to set up a minimal debian UML for running apache |
| 08:19.10 | SerajewelKS | is there a good way to do a sarge install with UML? |
| 08:19.28 | SerajewelKS | obviously i can't "boot from cd" since it doesn't emulate a real pc |
| 08:19.36 | sep | debootstrap ? |
| 08:19.53 | Malach | can anyone suggest where I might be able to get a pre-release of a package which is "due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive" (according to the bug report). |
| 08:20.07 | jm_ | there was either Potato or Woody base .tar.gz for UML, easy to upgrade |
| 08:21.18 | SerajewelKS | is there a good tutorial i could use for this? =/ |
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| 08:21.59 | aalex | hi |
| 08:22.02 | SerajewelKS | on a related note, is it possible to make a copy of a sparse file without "unsparsing" it? |
| 08:22.09 | aalex | I just LOVE my new Debian box |
| 08:22.20 | TheCount | SerajewelKS: man debootstrap |
| 08:22.52 | HmJ | labas rytas visiem :) |
| 08:22.54 | aalex | Anyone could point me to e resource to learn to use mozilla-thunderbird ? It jsu says me that my mailbox is empty |
| 08:23.05 | TheCount | SerajewelKS: cp always roughly copies sparse, rsync and tar can as well |
| 08:23.19 | TheCount | SerajewelKS: please consult the corresponding manual pages |
| 08:23.54 | lorien420 | When I installed Sarge there was an ncurses thing that let me chose from a list of mirrors. IS there a way to use that now that I've finished the install? |
| 08:24.16 | SerajewelKS | aalex: have you installed a user account? |
| 08:24.24 | jm_ | lorien420: apt-setup |
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| 08:25.01 | aalex | SerajewelKS: well, yes. I have set all the POP and smtp settings properly |
| 08:25.18 | aalex | SerajewelKS: but it always tells me that there is no mail on the server... |
| 08:25.40 | TheCount | SerajewelKS: btw, are you using UML for a specific reason, or have you consideres vserver/xen as well? |
| 08:25.53 | SerajewelKS | aalex: maybe there is no mail on the server? =) |
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| 08:25.59 | aalex | mmm |
| 08:26.08 | HPS`Fresh | mhm :) |
| 08:26.10 | SerajewelKS | TheCount: because i know more about UML? =) |
| 08:26.21 | SerajewelKS | TheCount: still nothing, but a "nothing" that is more than i know about the others |
| 08:26.28 | SerajewelKS | TheCount: if they'd be easier to use, by all means do tell |
| 08:26.48 | HPS`Fresh | aalex, why you don`t send some letter to your self and test |
| 08:27.15 | aalex | doe |
| 08:27.19 | aalex | he, done |
| 08:27.19 | liable | hmm, gonna have to do some partition resizing :( |
| 08:28.14 | sep | liable, _take_backups_first_ |
| 08:28.15 | aalex | :( |
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| 08:32.22 | Malach | can anyone suggest where I might be able to get a pre-release of a package which is "due to be installed in the Debian FTP archive" (according to the bug report). |
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| 08:33.27 | jm_ | try incoming |
| 08:34.30 | Malach | as a release name in the sources.list? |
| 08:34.42 | doleyb | Malach: no, incoming.debian.org, look for it there by name |
| 08:34.49 | Malach | ahh, cheers. |
| 08:34.50 | SerajewelKS | TheCount: meh i think i'm going to go with a simple chroot jail |
| 08:35.35 | SerajewelKS | TheCount: do you know of a tutorial for running apache out of a chroot jail? i've never messed with chrooting very much, so i don't know where to start. |
| 08:35.40 | aalex | hmmm, maybe i could enable SMTP authentification somewhere... |
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| 08:36.25 | aalex | anyone had success puttinf ion3 window manager in KDE ? I know the contrary is possible |
| 08:36.51 | liable | sep: yeah, i got /etc backed up. the biggest problem is that i dont have a working cd drive or floppy.. |
| 08:36.58 | Malach | doleyb/jm_: if I thought it would be welcomed, I'd give you both a big sloppy kiss - you're a server saver, thanks :) |
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| 08:40.28 | liable | grr, anyone gotten mplayer to play tv tuner? |
| 08:40.45 | Vyrus001 | anybody know how to list all the avalible codecs on transcode ? |
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| 08:42.28 | doleyb | Vyrus001: codecs questions can be good in #mplayer |
| 08:43.41 | Vyrus001 | doleyb: thanx |
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| 08:47.19 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:47.19 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
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| 08:52.33 | tarzeau | wow, more than 9000 submissions! |
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| 08:54.30 | xorn | so ive got vsftpd isntalled and running fine with anonymous user login except when I create a directory from the ftp client and then upload files into it, they end up on the server as -rw------- and I cant see them from the ftp client. |
| 08:54.58 | cast | can you set the umask in the vsftpd.conf? |
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| 08:55.25 | xorn | i even set the umask=777 in /etc/vsftpd.conf |
| 08:55.39 | xorn | ;^) |
| 08:55.51 | Phated | ehm? Isn't umask... OPPOSITE of normal perms? |
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| 08:55.57 | jm_ | it's anon_umask |
| 08:56.15 | xorn | is there a seperate anon_umask |
| 08:56.16 | Phated | So 777 wouldn't work anyway, no? |
| 08:56.20 | xorn | i didnt see that in the man |
| 08:56.25 | jcdubacq | hi |
| 08:56.29 | jm_ | it is mentioned by vsftpd.conf man page |
| 08:56.40 | xorn | well if it was oppposite they should be --------------- |
| 08:57.00 | Phated | anon_umask... didn't he say? :) |
| 08:57.08 | aalex | any hint on usin alsamixer ? I messed up my audio conf by doing anything |
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| 08:59.02 | doleyb | aalex: describe it more |
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| 09:02.24 | aalex | doleyb: well, its hard to explain without a screenshot... maybe the last 4 columns are set with bad properties. the thing is: i have no more sound |
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| 09:03.16 | aalex | i have a Realtek ALC880 |
| 09:03.20 | doleyb | aalex: in the daytime you can ask #alsa. you can also put a screenshot on !paste |
| 09:03.38 | aalex | !paste ? a website ? |
| 09:03.42 | dpkg | ? a website: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 09:04.05 | aalex | ok, ice |
| 09:04.07 | jm_ | heh |
| 09:04.07 | aalex | nice |
| 09:04.12 | tcsetattr | modprobe snd_pcm_oss and use aumix or setmixer; alsamixer is almost as bad a user interface as dselect |
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| 09:04.29 | doleyb | tcsetattr: alsamixer is not 1% as bad |
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| 09:04.36 | tcsetattr | uh, I mean snd_mixer_oss |
| 09:05.05 | aalex | tcsetattr: instead of.... ? |
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| 09:05.20 | tcsetattr | s/snd_pcm_oss/snd_mixer_oss/ was the correction |
| 09:05.57 | xorn | weird umask = 111 is giving me -rw---w---- |
| 09:05.57 | aalex | ok |
| 09:06.05 | tcsetattr | of course that was an exaggeration; dselect at least has the excuse that there is a fairly complex job being done on the backend. |
| 09:06.29 | xorn | anon_umask=111 is also giving me -rw--w---- |
| 09:06.36 | tcsetattr | xorn: sounds lie you need a leading 0 to force octal (decimal 111 = octal 157) |
| 09:06.59 | xorn | ah |
| 09:07.01 | tcsetattr | s/lie/like/ |
| 09:07.20 | rauli | do people use aptitude? it's hardly an improvement from dselect.. i rather go with apt-cache search heh |
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| 09:07.49 | xorn | well I was wanting directories to be drwxrwxrwx and files to be -rw-rw-rw- is that possible |
| 09:08.15 | cast | rauli: because it understand recommends/suggests, is a drop in replacement for apt-get and doesnt clutter the system with unused libraries |
| 09:08.16 | xorn | what kind of usmak do i need for that |
| 09:08.21 | doleyb | rauli: according to popcon, a lot of people have aptitude |
| 09:08.49 | tcsetattr | I've never seen a Recommend or Suggest that I thought was a good recommendation or suggestion |
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| 09:09.01 | liable | yay, i got mplayer to work with my tvcard :) |
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| 09:10.02 | jeanjacques | hello |
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| 09:10.08 | doleyb | bonjor |
| 09:10.20 | Gnea | hrmm, this usb apc is becoming an annoyance... |
| 09:10.22 | Gnea | apcupsd[8283]: apcupsd FATAL ERROR in smartsetup.c at line 67 Cannot open UPS port : No such file or directory |
| 09:10.36 | xorn | is there any umask masters that can set local_umask= (results in drwxrwxrwx for dirs and -rw-rw-rw- for files) |
| 09:11.01 | jeanjacques | i'm trying to install systemimager but apparently the server is not responding http://download.systemimager.org/debian stable main could you confirm it ? |
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| 09:11.55 | doleyb | jeanjacques: that server works |
| 09:12.27 | jeanjacques | doleyb: now it's responding to me too but it's really damn slow |
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| 09:13.18 | Gnea | xorn: umask 011 |
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| 09:13.37 | Gnea | xorn: er, wait... |
| 09:13.51 | aalex | tcsetattr: do you think I can fix ll of that in KDE ? :-) ... |
| 09:14.01 | aalex | (no sound) |
| 09:14.16 | Gnea | xorn: umask 000 |
| 09:14.53 | Gnea | xorn: had to re-test |
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| 09:16.27 | xorn | yeah i just discovered the anon_umask=0000 |
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| 09:16.55 | xorn | lets the client see the directories after upload and see the files and down load them again |
| 09:17.32 | xorn | kewl and all the files are -rw-rw-rw- |
| 09:18.09 | imex | can some1 help me locate this libxxf86dga1 needed for installing wine |
| 09:18.26 | cast | now that my dvdrw doesnt do the w part..whats your ftp ip xorn? ;) |
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| 09:20.29 | imex | i have searched within Debian packages and couldnt locate libxxf86dga1 |
| 09:20.45 | imex | any1 have any idea what that is? |
| 09:20.54 | imex | dpkg libxxf86dga1 |
| 09:21.02 | nkuttler | imex: /msg dpkg search |
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| 09:21.43 | imex | nkuttler, thanks, so far no response |
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| 09:21.54 | nkuttler | imex: what do you mean? |
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| 09:22.07 | imex | couldnt find libxxf86dga1 |
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| 09:22.42 | nkuttler | then it's not in debian |
| 09:22.46 | imex | dpkg has nothing returned with that |
| 09:22.51 | nkuttler | !search |
| 09:22.51 | dpkg | methinks search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
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| 09:23.36 | imex | when i try to install wine it got 2 packages needed, found the other one but libxxf86dga1 is not found anywhere |
| 09:23.49 | imex | kinda disappointed with the dev on this |
| 09:24.09 | nkuttler | imex: why do you keep repeating your problem? read what the bot said. |
| 09:24.25 | nkuttler | imex: if you use stable, file a bug report with the fix included |
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| 09:24.49 | koshnaranek | everybody knows you can't trust a bot, the U.N. said so |
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| 09:25.23 | imex | nkuttler, kk thanks i guess i try the rpm (me lazy) |
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| 09:26.01 | oskie | i did an upgrade of unstable on my server, now i can't log on to it via ssh... any known bugs in unstable regarding ssh or login? |
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| 09:27.35 | doleyb | oskie: no, be more specific. Also, unstable is not for servers. |
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| 09:37.51 | oskie | doleyb: it's just a home server... it accepts keyboard-interactive auth, and when i type the right password it just disconnects me |
| 09:38.37 | enkrypt | is it possible to have an IPTables graphical frontend which lets me configure the firewall based on program executables? like most simple windows firewalls? |
| 09:38.38 | tcsetattr | get on the console and run sshd in debugging mode |
| 09:40.03 | jm_ | enkrypt: of course it's possible, but my suggestion is for you to start working on it |
| 09:40.19 | enkrypt | jm_: I was more thinking about something that already exists ;) |
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| 09:40.48 | enkrypt | jm_: with "firestarter" for example I can block a range of ports, or a range of IP's and all that, but I am more looking for a way to block one specific binary from accessing the network, is that possible? |
| 09:41.02 | tcsetattr | you want to emulate a windoze "firewall", all you need is a #!/bin/sh\necho "Dude, you are SO totally protected."\nexit 0 |
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| 09:41.11 | bobo | Hey guys, anyone here good with shell scripts and specially pipes ? |
| 09:41.15 | zippy | my ipcheck-script runs manually but as cron-job without effect, what could be the reason for that ? |
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| 09:42.03 | bobo | I want to send a program's stdout to another program's stdin using pipes ... but I want the process to take 0.1 seconds delay |
| 09:42.08 | bobo | how can I do that? |
| 09:42.40 | tcsetattr | 0.1 seconds for every byte? just for the first byte? for every PIPE_BUF? |
| 09:42.41 | bobo | Any ideas? |
| 09:42.49 | jm_ | enkrypt: it is possible |
| 09:42.50 | bobo | Just for the begining |
| 09:43.02 | tcsetattr | foo | (sleep 0.1 ; cat) | bar |
| 09:43.20 | bobo | Hmm why didn't I think of that before |
| 09:43.32 | bobo | sh is really hackable I guess |
| 09:43.37 | bobo | thanks :) |
| 09:43.48 | enkrypt | jm_: ok I'll work my way through the iptables documentation then :p |
| 09:44.05 | jm_ | enkrypt: right, owner module, read iptables tutorial |
| 09:44.07 | bobo | oh oh wait |
| 09:44.16 | Skaag | how do I use sed to extract a single word from a line using regex? |
| 09:44.21 | Skaag | (assuming I know the regex) |
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| 09:44.34 | enkrypt | jm_: good thing that I enabled almost every possible iptables feature in my kernel ;) |
| 09:44.37 | bbrazil | Skaag: which word? |
| 09:44.38 | bobo | tcsetattr, I want bar to exectue and after like 0.1 seconds , have foo send it stdin |
| 09:45.05 | bobo | Is that possible? |
| 09:45.20 | bobo | like 0.1 second IN the execution of bar |
| 09:45.28 | tcsetattr | sounds like pretty much what I said |
| 09:45.32 | Skaag | bbrazil: '\<B\>([A-Z][a-z])\<\/B\>' |
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| 09:46.13 | bobo | but wouldn't foo execute ... and then have 0.1 seconds delay before sending it's out to cat and then sending cat's out to bar? |
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| 09:46.33 | bbrazil | Skaag: sed -e 's/\<B\>\([A-Z][a-z]\)\<\/B\>/\1/' |
| 09:46.41 | bbrazil | Skaag: that probably won't work for escaping reasons |
| 09:46.51 | tcsetattr | uh, what's your point? |
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| 09:47.07 | bobo | I want bar to be already executed when it recieves the input :) |
| 09:47.08 | tcsetattr | what's the functional difference between your first description and your second description? |
| 09:47.19 | Skaag | bbrazil: checking |
| 09:47.23 | tcsetattr | well obviously it can't read any input before being executed. |
| 09:47.38 | bbrazil | Skaag: can I interest you in 'cut -f2 -B' ? |
| 09:47.39 | tcsetattr | this is a weird job you're up to anyway. What's the deal? |
| 09:47.42 | bobo | hmm but pipes would send it right after it executes right? |
| 09:47.46 | Skaag | bbrazil: sure ;-) |
| 09:47.53 | bobo | some openssl thing |
| 09:47.55 | bbrazil | Skaag: bah s/-B/-dB/ |
| 09:48.00 | Skaag | bbrazil: anyway it gave me the entire line, not just the \1 extraction |
| 09:48.13 | bbrazil | Skaag: put a .* at either end |
| 09:48.17 | tcsetattr | I don't know what you mean by "send". |
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| 09:48.36 | Skaag | bbrazil: at either end? |
| 09:48.40 | bobo | I mean like 1. bar executes 2. foo's stdout immediately goes as stdin for bar |
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| 09:48.54 | bbrazil | Skaag: yes, get it to match the whole line |
| 09:48.58 | Skaag | bbrazil: I have a dictionary file, it contains a line like this: <p><b>word</b> explanation of word</p> and I want just the words... |
| 09:49.04 | bobo | I want a 1.5 foo waits 0.1 second |
| 09:49.04 | tcsetattr | foo | (sleep 0.1 ; cat) | bar # foo, the subshell, and bar all start at approximately the same time. Assuming bar tries to read from stdin immediately on startup, it will block in read() for about 0.1 second, while the sleep is running |
| 09:49.23 | bbrazil | Skaag: you know that \> has special meaning? |
| 09:49.30 | Skaag | no |
| 09:49.31 | bobo | hmm |
| 09:49.35 | Skaag | not in shell/sed |
| 09:49.39 | Skaag | I mean, I didn't know |
| 09:49.43 | bbrazil | Skaag: let me check |
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| 09:49.55 | tcsetattr | bar and foo aren't directly connected in my answer - there are 2 pipes, see? one pipe gets the data before the other pipe does. And there is a delay between them (in the beginning) |
| 09:50.05 | bobo | ahhh |
| 09:50.12 | bobo | So it goes right to left? |
| 09:50.33 | bobo | I always thought bar finally executes |
| 09:50.49 | bobo | and gets whatever's designated for it as stdin |
| 09:51.05 | tcsetattr | during the sleep, foo() has already stuffed its data into the first pipe. It's sitting there waiting for someone to read it. When the sleep finishes, the cat starts up and reads the data from the first pipe and puts it into the second pipe, where the bar gets it. Bar has been waiting patiently for something to show up in the second pipe. |
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| 09:51.27 | bbrazil | Skaag: it appears it isn't special, was probably thinking of vim |
| 09:51.31 | bobo | hmm |
| 09:51.35 | Skaag | ah ok |
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| 09:51.53 | Skaag | bbrazil: so i'm running sed -e 's/\<B\>\([A-Z][a-z]\)\<\/B\>/\1/' wb1913_a.html but it is giving me the entire line |
| 09:51.56 | bobo | tcsetattr, so you're saying that foo and bar BOTH start in the begining but just keep waiting until stuff goes through? |
| 09:52.06 | tcsetattr | you are not conveying to me any reason why you think that my answer didn't solve the problem. Either you didn't understand the answer or I didn't understand the problem. |
| 09:52.07 | Skaag | bbrazil: I would think \0 would give me the entire line, and \1 the matched value |
| 09:52.24 | bbrazil | Skaag: s/.*regex.*/\1/ |
| 09:52.35 | tcsetattr | yes, normally in a pipeline the shell starts all the members without waiting. There will be some processing delay, depending on how busy the machine is and how fast the CPU is... |
| 09:52.56 | Skaag | bbrazil: That causes sed to wait forever |
| 09:52.59 | bobo | tcsetattr, I think I had a bit of problem not understand the process of how unix deals with shell commands |
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| 09:53.07 | bobo | but I guess it's all clear now :) thanks to you |
| 09:53.11 | tcsetattr | for example if you run (sleep 5 ; echo foo) | (sleep 5 ; cat) you should only see a 5 second delay |
| 09:53.25 | bbrazil | Skaag: also, your regex is wrong - you want [a-zA-Z]* |
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| 09:53.30 | tcsetattr | not 10 seconds. Both sleeps started at the same time, and finished at the same time (within a few milliseconds processing delay) |
| 09:53.47 | Skaag | ah yes |
| 09:53.57 | bobo | tcsetattr, amazing |
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| 09:54.12 | silverton | what is the gui id3 tag editor? |
| 09:54.18 | Eclipser | xmms? |
| 09:54.21 | bosty | it's possible when i install a application i use a other gcc for the make make install ? |
| 09:54.26 | silverton | nah, it's a standalone program |
| 09:54.28 | tcsetattr | a pipe is not a temporary file. Execution is not sequential. Except in MS-DOS. |
| 09:54.35 | bobo | :D |
| 09:54.44 | Eclipser | silverton, search for it from apt then |
| 09:54.50 | silverton | I did, I don't see it |
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| 09:55.04 | Eclipser | ... mmm, MS-DOS... |
| 09:55.30 | bobo | tcsetattr ... I guess understanding the freedom of unix style OSes also takes alot of time |
| 09:55.56 | Eclipser | meh, my mp3 player is running out of battery again |
| 09:55.58 | silverton | :O found it, easytag |
| 09:56.30 | tcsetattr | pipelines are simple form of multithreaded programming |
| 09:56.34 | silverton | so, how many of you knew that rhythmbox supported ftp servers for the music library and never told me? |
| 09:56.35 | rauli | bobo: everything is a file, there's nothing else |
| 09:57.14 | Skaag | bbrazil: bugrit, i'll just use perl or php to do this |
| 09:57.16 | Skaag | :-) |
| 09:57.31 | bbrazil | Skaag: perl would be a good choice - sed can be odd at times |
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| 09:58.11 | bobo | rauli, we were discussing pipes |
| 09:58.18 | doleyb | rauli: are X11 windows files? are tcp sockets files? no, no. |
| 09:58.36 | silverton | oh, alsa isn't showing up in my gstreamer preferences, is there a package I need installed? |
| 09:58.47 | Skaag | bbrazil: yah... |
| 09:58.50 | bobo | I believe pipes and the kernel have a FAR more better design than just file management crap |
| 09:58.53 | Skaag | bbrazil: already almost finished writing the script |
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| 09:59.10 | rauli | doleyb: the windows are created through a socket connection, which works on top of a file abstraction |
| 09:59.20 | Bogaurd | does anyone know how to add a disk to a linux software linear raid array? |
| 09:59.35 | silverton | d'oh, I found it >.< gstreamer0.8-alsa |
| 09:59.39 | bobo | rauli, if you want to put it that way,,, the kernel is loaded to the memory from a file |
| 09:59.45 | doleyb | rauli: tcp sockets are not files in reality, or in any semantic abstraction |
| 10:00.03 | doleyb | rauli: unless you use a different OS like plan 9, where everything really IS a file |
| 10:00.07 | bobo | does that make pipes or threads files? |
| 10:00.38 | bbrazil | doleyb: eh, in linux sockets are files. they're just on an unmounted fs |
| 10:01.08 | doleyb | bbrazil: if you put it that way, then everything in Microsoft Windows XP is a file too. |
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| 10:01.19 | rauli | they are in a sense, but it's more meaningful to talk about them as pipes and threads :) |
| 10:01.32 | bbrazil | doleyb: yes actuallym their virtual file system thingy has gotten pretty unix like |
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| 10:01.52 | tcsetattr | "everything is a file" is a good slogan, and accurate if interpreted properly. What it means is "every major OS object is a subclass of an abstract data type supporting 3 fundamental methods: read(), write(), and seek()". We call them files... |
| 10:01.58 | doleyb | and thus "everything is a file" becomes a meaningless empty blurb, because it contains no information about how you interact with anything. |
| 10:02.10 | bobo | tcsetattr : I have a problem here ... I don't seem to get the normal stdout I get after using pipes this way |
| 10:02.23 | doleyb | tcsetattr: x11 windows and tcp sockets are major OS objects, they don't support seek() |
| 10:02.43 | doleyb | do kernel modules support seek()? no, but they are major. |
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| 10:03.25 | tcsetattr | returning ESPIPE qualifies as "supporting" it, in the sense that the method exists. it just doesn't do very much on some objects. |
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| 10:04.13 | bobo | tcsetattr, what do you mean? |
| 10:04.19 | bobo | Mind me I'm a bit n00b |
| 10:04.21 | tcsetattr | even so, "everything is a file" is an ideal, not actually reached in practice. the reality is more like "we use fds a LOT." but that's not a good slogan. |
| 10:04.33 | doleyb | fds are not files. |
| 10:05.18 | tcsetattr | well, that's the only good definition of a file - something that is represented by a file descriptor. If you want it to mean something else you're just importing foreign terms to be confusing. |
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| 10:05.55 | Bogaurd | does anyone know how to add a disk to a linux software linear raid array? |
| 10:06.32 | bobo | tcsetattr, some of my normal stdout from openssl seems to be missing after using pipes ... where is it going and how can I get it? |
| 10:06.53 | doleyb | tcsetattr: that's a back-definition to make the slogan true. "file" had a meaning in CS before fds were invented, and that's a separate meaning. |
| 10:06.56 | tcsetattr | did you consider that openssl might require a tty? I haven't used it much. |
| 10:07.18 | bobo | hmm a whole tty to itself? |
| 10:07.18 | bbrazil | bobo: stderr 2>&1 |
| 10:07.27 | bobo | I'll try that |
| 10:07.35 | tcsetattr | doleyb, that's how slogans usually work :) it's not supposed to be educational. It's more of a spiritual mantra... |
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| 10:09.01 | doleyb | omm |
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| 10:10.02 | loxley_ | Bogaurd: from what i know, you create the array with the disks inteded to be used and you can't just put in another disk without breaking the raid |
| 10:10.04 | tsn | UNIX question: what's the easiest way to start 2 programs so that they 'talk to each other' ? (stdout of the first is stdin of the second and vice versa) |
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| 10:10.12 | tcsetattr | you won't read "everything is a file" and suddenly understand all that it represents. But if you're a windoze programmer who comes to the light side, and finds out that read() and write() do not barf on sockets, because a socket IS a file [descriptor], and someone says "everything is a file", then you maybe get a bit closer to philosophical understanding |
| 10:10.37 | Bogaurd | loxley_: are you sure? a linear array is just a set of disks appended to one another. |
| 10:10.58 | loxley_ | Bogaurd: unless you make a raid 5 out of it, where you have spare disks |
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| 10:11.39 | loxley_ | Bogaurd: but that wont allow you to maximize it either |
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| 10:11.55 | Bogaurd | loxley_: there is a raidreconf tool that lets you add discs to a raid0 array, which is conceptually much more difficult than adding a disk to a linear array. |
| 10:12.13 | Bogaurd | loxley_: so i assume there must be a way to do it on a linear raid |
| 10:12.17 | doleyb | tcsetattr: to be accurate about it, you'd need a new word, and say "Everything is a $NEWWORD, including files and sockets and serial ports and some text output". Something like "iods" would be more precise, since something which isn't even conceptually positioned in a file system is no file. |
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| 10:12.37 | loxley_ | Bogaurd: maybe the thing you are looking for is LVM |
| 10:12.49 | tcsetattr | yes, you're obviously hung up on some non-unix definition of file. That's not good. |
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| 10:13.10 | rauli | doleyb: nah, they're just files you tweak with ioctl(2) and off you go |
| 10:13.12 | Bogaurd | loxley_: http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/raidreconf8.html |
| 10:13.58 | jm_ | tsn: depends what functionality you need, popen might be enough |
| 10:14.03 | tcsetattr | "everything is a file" simply means that read() and write() (and sometimes seek()) is a pretty good generic interface for lots of things, and that interface should not exist in several slightly incompatible incarnations, but they should all share the same core methods (and thus share a namespace: file descriptors) |
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| 10:14.51 | loxley_ | Bogaurd: hmm, never used that.. can't help you :/ |
| 10:15.00 | doleyb | rauli: ha, ioctl is not one of read,write,seek. ioctl is a way to graph non-file-like semantics ontop of things that are called "files" to obey the sloagan |
| 10:15.01 | tsn | jm_: no "functionality", same as with "|" but both ways |
| 10:15.02 | Bogaurd | loxley_: okay :) |
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| 10:15.21 | doleyb | s/graph/graft |
| 10:15.32 | tsn | jm_: I understand that I can write a little C program to do that, but I wonder if there is a bash way to do it |
| 10:16.21 | doleyb | tcsetattr: "thing supporting some of read,write,seek" is not the definition of file. |
| 10:16.39 | relic | tsn, sysV IPC(bad) |
| 10:16.43 | tcsetattr | yeah, ioctl is the escape hatch. Because one of the things we believe in, in unix land, is to not be too fanatical about the things we believe in. when everything doesn't want to be a file, we don't want to force it, so we compromise and make an ioctl |
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| 10:16.50 | rauli | doleyb: but you do open those devices from the filesystem, no matter how hard you try to believe otherwise |
| 10:17.39 | doleyb | rauli: tell me where TCP sockets are in the filesystem |
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| 10:17.57 | rauli | doleyb: they are under tons of glibc wrapper code |
| 10:18.01 | tcsetattr | that's a good point too. "everything is a file" might also be interpreted to mean "we try to make everything open()able from a single namespace, composed of a tree of filenames" |
| 10:18.14 | cast | i wish we had tcp sockets in /dev, so bash3 doesnt need to pretend :\ |
| 10:18.19 | tcsetattr | well, there is a /dev/tcp on some systems... |
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| 10:19.00 | rauli | yeah, you can use /dev/{tcp,udp} in bash, but that's of course cheating ;) |
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| 10:19.03 | tcsetattr | it's widely acknowledged that the socket interface is not well designed; it wasn't meant to last this long. |
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| 10:20.05 | doleyb | tcsetattr: that "single namespace" thing is how a lot of people explain EIAF. |
| 10:20.05 | doleyb | But the real thing that bothers me is that unix people say EIAF, when that's far closer to reality on plan9. |
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| 10:22.02 | rauli | well maybe you should straighten out everyone who has used the term file for decades |
| 10:22.38 | doleyb | rauli: my definition is the more popular one, by far. No normal person will agree that a device with no capacity to store data for later is a "file" |
| 10:22.51 | doleyb | rauli: that's a 400+ year old def, btw |
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| 10:23.20 | macsim | hi |
| 10:23.44 | tcsetattr | OK then, Mr. OED, give us the etymology of "directory" and "folder" and tell us which one is right. And then I'll tell you I don't care because unix definitions are the ones that matter and it's called a directory dammit. |
| 10:24.18 | macsim | I've made an install of apache, but when I try http://localhost/ it doen't parse my index.php, want me to download a phtml file, (it's a basic debian httpd.conf) |
| 10:25.03 | doleyb | macsim: look for php inside httpd.conf |
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| 10:25.30 | macsim | doleyb, I remove the # next AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 10:25.40 | macsim | and reload apache of course ;) |
| 10:26.08 | doleyb | macsim: what php version, 3 4 |
| 10:26.17 | macsim | doleyb, 4 |
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| 10:26.29 | pre-newbie | hello |
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| 10:26.41 | macsim | doleyb, 4:4.3.10-15 (stable one) |
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| 10:26.56 | pre-newbie | is apt-get and yast the same thing just diff distros tools |
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| 10:27.07 | doleyb | macsim: look for mod_php4 |
| 10:27.31 | doleyb | pre-newbie: you can say that yast and apt-get try to do the same jobs, yeah |
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| 10:27.40 | macsim | doleyb, in httpd.conf ? |
| 10:27.52 | doleyb | macsim: yes |
| 10:27.55 | pre-newbie | ty |
| 10:28.00 | macsim | doleyb, nothing |
| 10:28.07 | doleyb | macsim: AddModule mod_php4.c |
| 10:28.33 | tarzeau | maybe i should update my webpage at http://www.us.debian.org/consultants/#Switzerland .. what do you get when you click on the gürkan consulting url? |
| 10:28.43 | macsim | doleyb, Cannot add module via name 'mod_php4.c': not in list of loaded modules |
| 10:28.45 | pre-newbie | now in general terms if I cannot use apt I must download the deb or tar and decompress it and then compile it |
| 10:29.12 | doleyb | pre-newbie: well, a deb comes already compiled, a tar might be compiled yet or not. |
| 10:29.46 | pre-newbie | oh |
| 10:29.49 | doleyb | pre-newbie: and you don't specifically "decompress" the deb, you just dpkg -i |
| 10:30.09 | pre-newbie | okay |
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| 10:30.29 | doleyb | macsim: you have libapache-mod-php4 ? |
| 10:30.52 | pre-newbie | thanks...I am so sick of tutorialing unix command i want to do some hands on |
| 10:30.57 | doleyb | pre-newbie: but hopefully, there will only be a few programs you need to get outside of apt |
| 10:31.18 | pre-newbie | apt is that good huh :) ?? |
| 10:31.46 | doleyb | pre-newbie: apt has over 15 gigabytes of software, so there's a good chance what you want is in it. |
| 10:31.49 | macsim | doleyb, no :/ it wasn't install, why is not a php4 dependence ... |
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| 10:32.25 | kronos- | as |
| 10:32.49 | kronos- | does anyone knows with what can i open .ddt files ? |
| 10:33.13 | macsim | doleyb, I've install it but it doesn't change anything :/ |
| 10:33.17 | beardy | kronos-: What are they? 'file file.ddt' what does that say?? |
| 10:33.37 | tcsetattr | file.ddt: dangerous pesticide data |
| 10:33.38 | beardy | -1 ? |
| 10:33.48 | doleyb | macsim: because hypothetically, a person could use php4 without apache, some other http server or something |
| 10:33.48 | doleyb | pre-newbie: of course, a couple of the most popular programs aren't in debian's repository, for legalish reasons |
| 10:33.49 | doleyb | kronos-: what does "file *.ddt" say? |
| 10:34.01 | macsim | doleyb, ok ;) |
| 10:34.25 | pre-newbie | doleyb: could you name one that i can try to manually donload |
| 10:34.29 | kronos- | i guess... openoffice will do it |
| 10:34.32 | kronos- | ? |
| 10:34.34 | macsim | doleyb, it's work, It was my firefox cache !!! :) |
| 10:34.42 | sparr_ | do i need video for linux kernel stuff to use a usb webcam? |
| 10:34.45 | macsim | doleyb, thanks a lot |
| 10:35.20 | doleyb | pre-newbie: well, if you want to play around with that, you can ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ and grab a few debs and try |
| 10:35.41 | tcsetattr | v4l is where you will find most webcam drivers, if I recall correctly |
| 10:35.42 | doleyb | pre-newbie: but that's a bad thing to mess with, there are better things you could do to learn. |
| 10:35.53 | pre-newbie | okay |
| 10:36.07 | pre-newbie | i am sick of learning what cp and grep is |
| 10:36.34 | doleyb | pre-newbie: "copy" and "grok regular expression" |
| 10:36.44 | Zugschlus | doleyb: gnu regular expression |
| 10:36.47 | Zugschlus | argh |
| 10:36.48 | pre-newbie | yea i just tutorialed them :) |
| 10:36.48 | Zugschlus | no |
| 10:36.58 | Zugschlus | sorry |
| 10:36.59 | tcsetattr | uh, it comes from g/RE/p in the ed manual. |
| 10:37.37 | pre-newbie | i wanted to get ndiswrapper going for my amd64 and skype but as a newbie there is just no way that is happening |
| 10:38.20 | doleyb | pre-newbie: you might have more ndiswrapper luck if you run a non-64 OS. Because the binaries you're wrapping are probably 32. |
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| 10:38.44 | beardy | pre-newbie: For short descriptions of commands/programs, 'whatis cp', 'whatis grep' and so on. And then the manuals ans infopages, 'man cp', 'info cp'. |
| 10:38.45 | pre-newbie | can i run a 32 on a amd64? |
| 10:39.13 | doleyb | pre-newbie: yes, in fact I do that |
| 10:39.30 | pre-newbie | oh shit so I can download the 32 bit version of sarge and use that |
| 10:39.35 | doleyb | pre-newbie: because i am a programmer, and need binary compatibility with other many machines |
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| 10:40.33 | pre-newbie | last question.....as a newbie I take it you totally are suggesting using 32 bit |
| 10:40.50 | beardy | pre-newbie: Also /msg dpkg grounding |
| 10:41.02 | usn | hi folx |
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| 10:41.11 | buli-tr | can anyone reach this site http://www.monkey.org |
| 10:41.13 | doleyb | pre-newbie: well, debian-64 had not been working perfectly last I tried, maybe it's better now, but i wouldn't have suggested it to newbie before. |
| 10:41.18 | buli-tr | or something wrong with my network |
| 10:41.29 | doleyb | buli-tr: monkey dead |
| 10:41.41 | buli-tr | the site is not working |
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| 10:42.41 | doleyb | does anyone know if amd64-debian will someday get easy 32-bit binary compat? |
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| 10:42.58 | doleyb | so that something like flashplayer-nonfree would work? |
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| 10:43.11 | Skrotto | Hi. Does anyone know if there are tools to read health-status (temperature etc) from WD-discs? |
| 10:43.23 | pre-newbie | doleyb: should i use the stable i386 |
| 10:43.29 | cast | Skrotto: sure is, smartctl |
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| 10:43.42 | cast | Skrotto: oh, and hddtemp for temp |
| 10:43.54 | doleyb | pre-newbie: sure, i guess. ask someone else what release is good. |
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| 10:44.27 | doleyb | pre-newbie: if you already have 64 debian installed, though, don't rush to wipe it out if it's working already, unless you think you've found a problem. |
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| 10:44.46 | pre-newbie | i can't use my wireless card :( |
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| 10:44.52 | Skrotto | cast: Cool. My dics show between 39-44 Celsius. Is that healthy? |
| 10:44.53 | oskie | anyone know what causes this? sshd[31300]: fatal: PAM: pam_setcred(): Error in service module |
| 10:45.00 | pre-newbie | I can't get skype going to get help from a linux friend |
| 10:45.52 | doleyb | pre-newbie: well, i386 can't hurt. |
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| 10:47.08 | J_P | hi all |
| 10:47.17 | pre-newbie | ty very much |
| 10:47.31 | pafrusurewa | Skrotto: should be well under 40°C IMO |
| 10:47.42 | cast | Skrotto: sure, why not. |
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| 10:48.11 | Skrotto | pafrusurewa: okay. guess I should add some fans. but I'm late for school. bye :> |
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| 10:50.10 | RichiH | any suggestions on a good cli tool that will display disk io? |
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| 10:51.06 | cast | RichiH: in a benchmark manner? or in a monitoring manner? |
| 10:51.28 | RichiH | cast: monitoring |
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| 10:51.43 | shadukan | howdy ppl |
| 10:51.45 | cast | RichiH: no idea, but tell me when you find something :> |
| 10:51.49 | shadukan | bizare behaviour... |
| 10:51.59 | streuner | RichiH: smartctl? |
| 10:52.10 | shadukan | even if i have update the kernel image to 2.6.something |
| 10:52.16 | shadukan | when i try to get the kernel source |
| 10:52.18 | jm_ | RichiH: iostat doesn't help? |
| 10:52.36 | shadukan | i cannot get it correctly and it's not even in the list of availiable sources |
| 10:52.42 | shadukan | any ideas on what is happening? |
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| 10:53.13 | streuner | RichiH: if you wanna know the "health" of your HD - its definatly smartctl tehn |
| 10:53.20 | streuner | then* |
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| 10:54.17 | RichiH | jm_: i would prefer ncurses |
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| 10:54.26 | jm_ | kernel image and source packages have been renamed in > Sarge releases of Debian |
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| 10:54.32 | RichiH | streuner: no, just 'what the fuck is going on' |
| 10:54.47 | RichiH | in a 'how much are you transferring kind of way' |
| 10:55.55 | nax | i want to create a kernel-headers package with make-kpkg. problem is, it does not contain all the symlinks like the official kernel-headers packages. |
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| 10:56.55 | nax | i could alter the .deb package and add all the stuff by hand, but there should be a automated way already, right? |
| 10:57.46 | jm_ | gkrellm shows that ;) |
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| 10:58.40 | shadukan | so any directions on what should i do to get the kernel source? |
| 10:58.49 | streuner | hm, ncurses-based... |
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| 10:59.42 | ravo | anyone here using cricket ? |
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| 11:00.26 | eugenesan | hi all, how do i calulate hash of orig.tar.gz for .dsc? |
| 11:00.36 | streuner | fuck, this house-music server isn't bad :-) |
| 11:00.48 | Guerin | !nm guide |
| 11:00.49 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 11:00.51 | Guerin | eugenesan: ^ |
| 11:00.56 | azeem | eugenesan: dpkg-source does that |
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| 11:02.49 | nax | could somebody please give me a hint on my question above? |
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| 11:04.31 | eugenesan | azeem: 10x |
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| 11:05.14 | RichiH | ok, if i don't have any tools on this box (not my install) - where do i look in /proc fpr disk io? |
| 11:05.27 | azeem | nax: AFAIK, there is some discussion about this between the kernel maintainers and the kernel-package author |
| 11:05.41 | azeem | nax: not sure whether that is resolved yet, you could check the debian-kernel archives |
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| 11:07.14 | jm_ | RichiH: possibly stat file in /sys for each device |
| 11:07.20 | nax | azeem, ok, thanks. i'd like to know how the maintainer do their job at this time ;) |
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| 11:07.30 | Bogaurd | okay: i installed raidtools2, but i dont have any of the tools? mkraid etc doenst work? |
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| 11:07.43 | RichiH | jm_: will looky looky |
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| 11:07.54 | _nomad | Bogaurd apt-get |
| 11:08.10 | azeem | nax: you could perhaps just modify the official linux-2.6 package? |
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| 11:08.18 | Bogaurd | _nomad: ...? I used apt-get install raidtools2. |
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| 11:08.29 | _nomad | and what not working ? |
| 11:08.33 | evilkenshin | how do i find out what version of xfree86 i have? |
| 11:08.49 | _nomad | apt-cache search raidtab |
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| 11:08.52 | Bogaurd | mkraid /dev/md0: |
| 11:08.52 | Bogaurd | mkraid: command not found. |
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| 11:09.42 | jm_ | evilkenshin: xdpyinfo tells you, or the package management |
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| 11:09.57 | nax | azeem, this leaves me with a bunch of work on each kernel chance, but thats what i'm gonna do, thanks again |
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| 11:10.37 | Bogaurd | does kernel 2.6 still use raidtools2? or is it mdadm nowadays? |
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| 11:11.13 | evilkenshin | is it possible to install a rpm on debian? |
| 11:11.20 | azeem | nax: I override the flavors = variable in debian/rules so that it only buiilds for 686 (in my case), this saves a lot of time |
| 11:11.31 | azeem | evilkenshin: yes, through alien, but this is discouraged |
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| 11:11.56 | evilkenshin | i am trying to reinstall my ati dsrivers and all i can find on there site is rpm what would you suggest i do?> |
| 11:12.15 | eugenesan | where can i get fresh ant and tomcat? |
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| 11:12.16 | nax | azeem, the build time of the kernel-image is no problem, i just want to keep the manual stuff at a minimum |
| 11:12.18 | azeem | evilkenshin: check planet.debian.org, somebody talked about fglrx Debian packages there yesterday |
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| 11:12.25 | azeem | nax: heh, ok :) |
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| 11:14.14 | evilkenshin | i throughly los ton what i need to do to fix my display |
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| 11:14.52 | evilkenshin | when ever i start to use bandwidth my computer goes into "hyperdrive" and everthing like the clock and animations starting going alot faster |
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| 11:15.12 | evilkenshin | also none of my video players will play back any video i get this blue screen |
| 11:15.21 | evilkenshin | but i do have audio |
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| 11:17.20 | jm_ | blue screen suggests issues with driver, try using -vo x11 with mplayer |
| 11:17.48 | evilkenshin | yes that gives limited functionality with mplayer |
| 11:18.04 | evilkenshin | however i want to fix it permenatly for all players |
| 11:18.09 | jm_ | http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian/fglrx-installer.html that's for ATI driver |
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| 11:19.35 | schippes | how can i shutdown eth0 (on board nic) and set up the wlan driver with the same IP as the eth0 when i insert the cardbus adapter ? doing ifdown in /etc/network/interfaces (pre-up clauses) is not allowed, may be because interfaces is sourced by ifup itself |
| 11:19.53 | schippes | all low level stuff (modules, devices) is ok |
| 11:19.58 | _nomad | try whith ifconfig |
| 11:20.03 | Bogaurd | why am i not getting my raid commands (mkraid etc) when i install raidtools2? |
| 11:20.06 | Bogaurd | this is very weird. |
| 11:20.19 | manbox | i need apache/php/mySQL help, any 1 know a channel i could ask about it? |
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| 11:20.30 | schippes | yes but if i shut down with ifconfig i break down all the state info ifup/down relies on |
| 11:20.50 | J_P | people, I am try install debian sarge in machine with SATA HD with linux26, but debian stop load modules in 92%, in ctrl+alt+f3 last line where stop is loading .../driver/scsi_cd.. but with linux24(default) works fine, anyone idea ? |
| 11:21.03 | Backup | Which ports must be open to get fast DCC transfers?i onlixy download with 3kb at the moment |
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| 11:21.15 | liable | Backup: why not use mdadm? |
| 11:21.21 | liable | Bogaurd: ^^ |
| 11:21.23 | Backup | what is this? |
| 11:21.28 | liable | Backup: sorry |
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| 11:21.33 | Backup | ? |
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| 11:21.45 | remedy | schippes: remove the auth eth0 line from network/interfaces? |
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| 11:21.55 | remedy | schippes: auto eth0, i mean :) |
| 11:22.00 | Bogaurd | liable: i'm trying to give it a go, having some troubles with it. i seem to already have an array present even though i havent set any up. care to lend a hand? :) |
| 11:22.01 | evilkenshin | on the website for ati drivers it talks about configuring or compiling the kernal. do i need to do this? |
| 11:22.16 | dimir | J_P: install 2.4, boot, compile 2.6 with needed things, install reboot. Some work to do, but you will learn a lot. And you will know your machine better. :-) |
| 11:22.18 | Backup | can somebody help me? |
| 11:22.46 | Bogaurd | Backup: check the documentation for your DCC client. |
| 11:22.48 | liable | Bogaurd: i wish i could, but i aint to good with it. |
| 11:22.56 | Backup | i use xchat |
| 11:23.00 | Backup | i found nothing |
| 11:23.02 | bibe | evilkenshin : flavio's page documents all the required steps very well |
| 11:23.11 | Bogaurd | liable: ah bummer. |
| 11:23.20 | sepski | i am trying to search BTS for bugs that involve X crashing and dropping me out to gdm login. but im hopelessly incapable of producing any results. are there a doc/howto that explains searching for bugs in bugs.debian.org |
| 11:23.24 | Bogaurd | well, can anyone give me a hand with this raid array? |
| 11:23.24 | schippes | remedy: ok thanks for the hint, will try to let the hotpug script manage the interface |
| 11:23.30 | J_P | dimir: ok, thank you. |
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| 11:23.39 | schippes | the eth0 inteerface i mean |
| 11:23.41 | dimir | J_P: np. |
| 11:23.56 | evilkenshin | i need the version of the kernel-image package i have installed and the correct value for the kernel |
| 11:23.58 | _nomad | schippes, i dont understand what you want to remove. |
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| 11:24.09 | _nomad | You want to remove example eth0:1 from your configurations ? |
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| 11:24.12 | bibe | uname -r |
| 11:24.19 | bibe | evilkenshin : ^^^ |
| 11:24.50 | evilkenshin | thank you |
| 11:24.59 | Backup | chan someone help me |
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| 11:25.02 | bibe | evilkenshin : no problem |
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| 11:25.30 | doleyb | schippes: why don't you not down eth0, and just change your routes so it doesn't matter. |
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| 11:25.53 | J_P | dimir: more one question : I install one debian i386 in one EM64T, how I do for recongize if that processor is really one intel EM64T x86_64 ? via cat /proc/cpuinfo not show nothing about "64" : http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2180 |
| 11:26.01 | schippes | _nomad: my problem is this: i have a laptop, sometimes i can connect by cable so i use the regular eth0 i/f. but when i connect by wlan i need to switch off the eth0 and enable the wlan interface, cause they are on the same network address. i could move the wlan on a different network address, but i dont want to have 2 network addresses, and moreover the wlan access points are already configured on that net |
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| 11:26.40 | Bogaurd | how can i remove an array in mdadm? |
| 11:28.04 | sepski | schippes, bridge eth0 and wlan0 together in br0 and place your ip config on the br0 interface. just make sure you dont have both up at same time. |
| 11:28.19 | schippes | i dont know if i *can* have 2 NICs on the same network having the same network IP without doing a bridge |
| 11:28.23 | jm_ | schippes: there are packages for this - ifplugd, intuitively, laptop-net, whereami, ... |
| 11:28.29 | manbox | any1 know how i can find the dir mysql resides in? |
| 11:28.38 | jm_ | no do not assign the same IP to two interfaces |
| 11:28.47 | jm_ | manbox: yes, many people know |
| 11:29.03 | sepski | Bogaurd, if you mean stop if from autostarting on boot then remove the array line from /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 11:29.04 | liable | jesus, took my the last 4 hours, but finally my tvcard records with sound.. |
| 11:29.12 | manbox | yeah, but it isnt where it should here.. |
| 11:29.32 | manbox | jm_, can you help me? |
| 11:29.34 | sepski | manbox, are you talking about the mysql executable or the actual database files ? |
| 11:29.41 | jm_ | manbox: I don't know, I can't read people's mind |
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| 11:29.49 | Bogaurd | sepski: i seem to have an array (/dev/md0) configured, i wanna get rid of it, and create it again. the /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf file is empty =\ |
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| 11:30.19 | manbox | sepski, the headers for php compilation.. should be the base mysql files... what ever that means.. |
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| 11:30.44 | sepski | Bogaurd, mdadm --stop device i belive (make sure it's unmounted) |
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| 11:31.12 | sepski | manbox, never compiled php debian have perfectly workable packages |
| 11:31.13 | Bogaurd | sepski: excellent, thankyou :) |
| 11:31.30 | manbox | yeah but php is very old.. |
| 11:31.38 | manbox | it's not recommended.. |
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| 11:31.48 | Bogaurd | sepski: i dont suppose you happen to know if using mdadm, i can add a new disk to an existing linear array without having to reformat the whole lot? |
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| 11:31.57 | J_P | people, I install one debian i386 in one EM64T, how I do for recongize if that processor is really one intel EM64T x86_64 ? via cat /proc/cpuinfo not show nothing about "64" : http://deadbeefbabe.org/paste/2180 |
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| 11:32.29 | sepski | Bogaurd, i dont want to upgrade my php every other month. it want to to function and get security updates, without having to constantly upgrade |
| 11:32.29 | chema_ | There are some way to installl ubuntu in less than 200 mb? |
| 11:32.42 | jm_ | chema_: read the topic |
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| 11:32.51 | Bogaurd | sepski: i'm sure thats nice :P but not really related to me :P |
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| 11:33.26 | Backup | Which ports must be open to get fast DCC transfers?I use xchat ! onlixy download with 3kb at the moment |
| 11:33.28 | chema_ | Yes, but the ubuntu server dont work now |
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| 11:33.54 | sepski | Bogaurd, i guess what you should do is take a backup and try. :) |
| 11:34.01 | jm_ | funny, since the Ubuntu channel is on the same network as this Debian channel |
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| 11:34.14 | Bogaurd | sepski: yeah, the array is empty atm, i wanna test it before i do it with data ;) |
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| 11:34.24 | Bogaurd | sepski: any idea as to what commands i could use? |
| 11:34.25 | hebfftijd | i have a router a usb modem what are my options, can i use te router |
| 11:34.32 | sepski | Backup, ports are only relevant if you dont get transfers at all. you can't increase speed but opening ports. |
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| 11:34.46 | manbox | sepski, can you five me a file name for mysql dir? so that i can locate it here..? |
| 11:34.54 | ULuet | Is that known? Debian woody: fetchmail-ssl: Depends: fetchmail-common (= 5.9.11-6.2) but 5.9.11-6.4 is to be installed |
| 11:35.01 | sepski | Bogaurd, add the device. and resice2fs |
| 11:35.31 | Backup | sepski... 1 month ago i used win and i got downloads rates with 126kb now i kan only downoad DCC with 3 kb? |
| 11:35.36 | Bogaurd | sepski: excellent, i'll bung another empty drive in the machine, fill them with bogus data, and try it out :) |
| 11:35.48 | chema_ | jm my console say that ubuntu chanel now is only with invite |
| 11:35.59 | sepski | manbox, if it's about compiling then i guess you want the mysql source. |
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| 11:36.11 | jm_ | chema_: maybe they had some problems then |
| 11:36.18 | hebfftijd | i have a router a usb modem what are my options, can i use te router |
| 11:37.29 | Bogaurd | sepski: still got a problem, when i create my array, it doesnt get added to mdadm.conf =\ |
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| 11:37.31 | sepski | hebfftijd, that depends on what you want to use it for. if you want to rute something then yes you can use the router. |
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| 11:38.19 | sepski | echo "DEVICE partitions" > mdadm.conf |
| 11:38.19 | sepski | mdadm --detail --scan >> mdadm.conf |
| 11:38.29 | hebfftijd | ok sepski i was wondering if there is a way with speedtouch usb (green flat thing) and a router |
| 11:38.33 | Bogaurd | sepski: :) |
| 11:38.41 | elirips | hello people. i tried to do an online-quiz of my university, using mozilla-firefox. while loading the page i resized the window -> firefox crashed. now every time i open that page again, firefox just "freezes". the page is a html-page with several applets in it. any ideas how i can make it work again? i am using debian sarge. |
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| 11:39.21 | sepski | hebfftijd, are you talking about adsl now ? if your router dont have a built in modem then no you can't use the ruter. also check if your ,modem have a network interface |
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| 11:39.45 | sepski | elirips, try remove cache/history/cookies etc |
| 11:40.01 | hebfftijd | ok my answer is given (i think) at the moment win2000 works as gateway |
| 11:40.14 | elirips | sepski: thanks. i'm now trying to do it with mozilla, there it works. |
| 11:40.27 | Bogaurd | sepski: nope, still cant run the array after i stop it (mdaam -R /dev/md0) |
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| 11:41.07 | sepski | Bogaurd, can't run ? no error message ? |
| 11:41.21 | Bogaurd | phoebe:/# mdadm -R /dev/md0 |
| 11:41.22 | Bogaurd | mdadm: failed to run array /dev/md0: Invalid argument |
| 11:41.36 | ravo | sepski: hi :) |
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| 11:41.43 | sepski | Bogaurd, you should --zero-superblock after stopping the array before make a new (cant hurt) |
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| 11:42.11 | Bogaurd | sepski: err... huh? |
| 11:43.02 | elirips | someone knows a tool for kde/linux that can test if two logical formulas are equivalent? |
| 11:43.23 | ravo | sepski: when setting cricket, ive editted the defaults file and set snmp host correctly and port was 161? although snmpd seems to listen on 199? so i changed that to 199 but im still getting "Current values not available: " and a No ds tag found for target type . what that mean ? |
| 11:43.39 | jm_ | ravo: you need to enable trapd |
| 11:44.14 | jm_ | ravenbird: ahh ignore me, trapd is on port 162 |
| 11:44.16 | ravenbird | I think you lost me on that one, jm_ |
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| 11:44.19 | ravo | jm_: what is trapd? |
| 11:44.30 | jm_ | ravo: see above (the message for ravenbird) |
| 11:44.51 | jm_ | ravo: anyway, default snmpd access control configuration is very restrictive, so fix that |
| 11:45.05 | sepski | ravo, no snmp should be on 161 |
| 11:45.08 | ravo | jm_ ive sorted that already as ive got mrtg working |
| 11:45.27 | ravo | sepski: 0 0.0.0.0:199 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 7606/snmpd ? |
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| 11:45.40 | jm_ | ravo: then you need to find out what values it's trying to get |
| 11:45.44 | sepski | ravo, have you played with snmpd's config ? |
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| 11:45.56 | jm_ | ravo: it should really listen on default port in Debian |
| 11:45.59 | ravo | sepski: yeah to let it read on public |
| 11:46.08 | ravo | jm_ i didnt change the port number ? :) |
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| 11:47.08 | ravo | sepski: i changed com2sec readonly 127.0.0.1 public in snmpd.conf |
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| 11:47.26 | jm_ | ravo: I don't know, don't ask me - but it listens on UDP port 161 by default |
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| 11:48.17 | sepski | ravo, port 199 is the snmp in directory server subagent config (acording to google) you should use 161 for regular snmp queries |
| 11:48.58 | ravo | sepski: yeah i realise i was using pant - so i was just getting tcp, whereas im guessing it connects on udp so port 161 |
| 11:49.09 | sepski | ravo, yes |
| 11:49.20 | sepski | try panu then ? |
| 11:49.22 | ravo | sepski: either way it didnt work before on 161 is there something im missing ? |
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| 11:50.33 | sepski | what config example are you using ? try snmpwalking to verify that your snmpd runs and function. then it's down to using the right config example or tweaking it correctly |
| 11:51.10 | ravo | sepski: just Defaults in /etc/cricket/config/ |
| 11:52.00 | sepski | ravo, that's ciscoiefied use the snmpd config from the examples doc (iirc) |
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| 11:52.31 | ravo | sepski: they look exactly the saem, but ill try anyway : |
| 11:53.18 | evilkenshin | how do i restart my xserver without rebooting? |
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| 11:53.47 | jm_ | evilkenshin: quit it, start it again |
| 11:53.49 | sepski | ravo, http://cricket.sourceforge.net/contrib/ look at the linux-boxen file |
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| 11:53.59 | bosty | when i want to compil a programme ... if i don't want use gcc-2.95 i use export CC='gcc-3.3' no? |
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| 11:54.11 | bosty | before the make .. make install |
| 11:54.13 | jm_ | that depends on the build system the program uses |
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| 11:54.30 | evilkenshin | how do i quit it? |
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| 11:54.56 | liable | evilkenshin: log out of it, or stop the dm. |
| 11:55.22 | ciencias | olaaa |
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| 11:56.31 | bosty | jm_, the programme use gcc-2.95 but me i want to use gcc-3.3 ... |
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| 11:57.07 | jm_ | bosty: is someone holding a gun to your head, preventing you from doing it? |
| 11:57.08 | shocker | is there a way to make any file or folder (recursively) chmod 777 automatically (if i create a new file/folder etc) |
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| 11:57.13 | ravo | sepski: i think i'll try that, thanks :) |
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| 11:57.57 | jm_ | shocker: there are no folders in Unix world - adjust umask if you want that |
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| 11:58.36 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay. the array is running atm, cause i just created it. i tried filling mdadm.conf the way you suggested, but then when i stop the array with '-S' and try to start it again with '-R' it wont work. |
| 11:58.46 | plbgnr | hello, why is happen such thing, that if I copy text from for example firefox and then I try to paste it into vim -> indenting increases in very awful way :( so I must first do this : cat >newfile;vim newfile ...and I dont want to do it in this way |
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| 11:59.02 | jm_ | plbgnr: because you don't know how to use vim |
| 11:59.06 | Bogaurd | plbgnr: i think you want :set paste |
| 11:59.13 | Bogaurd | or soemthing like that. |
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| 11:59.29 | jm_ | indeed, so ":help paste" and ":help pastetoggle" |
| 11:59.32 | sepski | Bogaurd, mdrun /dev/mdx donsnt work ? |
| 11:59.54 | Bogaurd | lemme try that one. |
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| 12:00.05 | Bogaurd | sepski: is there a command like 'mdstop' too? |
| 12:00.24 | sepski | Bogaurd, nope |
| 12:00.38 | plbgnr | Boguard,jm_: thanks |
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| 12:00.59 | Bogaurd | sepski: mdrun works :D |
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| 12:02.25 | sepski | Bogaurd, then mdadm -R -a might work too |
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| 12:02.35 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay. |
| 12:02.47 | Bogaurd | sepski: im gonna try adding another device to the array now. |
| 12:03.05 | bosty | jm_, it's not possible to use export CC='gcc-3.3' for use an other gcc for the compilation? |
| 12:03.20 | shocker | jm_: whats umask |
| 12:03.24 | jm_ | bosty: I have already told you - it depends on build system in question |
| 12:03.52 | bosty | my system was build with gcc-3.3 |
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| 12:05.32 | jm_ | shocker: ask wikipedia |
| 12:05.33 | sepski | my etch crashed down to gdm about once a day. i can't seam to find bugs related to this. anyone know a bugid or workaround ? |
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| 12:08.29 | stewpid | !dpkg masq |
| 12:08.29 | dpkg | masq is probably See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
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| 12:09.06 | _nomad | lol |
| 12:09.28 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay, how do i use the add syntax in mdadm to add a new drive to the linear array? |
| 12:09.42 | _nomad | !dpkg prerouting |
| 12:09.46 | _nomad | !dpkg pre |
| 12:10.18 | sepski | _nomad, try /msg dpkg <question> |
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| 12:11.45 | shocker | how can i make it so all files created in a specified folder have readable/writable/executable by all? |
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| 12:13.35 | sepski | Bogaurd, i guess you need to recreate it since --grow is only supported for raid1 and not for linear |
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| 12:13.54 | Bogaurd | sepski: hmm, okay. i'll try it. |
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| 12:14.13 | sepski | Bogaurd, besides this is what lvm was made for |
| 12:14.28 | sepski | Bogaurd, it's a bit on the sidetrack of raid |
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| 12:14.41 | Bogaurd | sepski: yeah. should i use lvm for this? |
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| 12:15.30 | sepski | Bogaurd, depends on what you need. but it sounds to me like you want a growable filesystem and lvm does just that |
| 12:16.14 | Bogaurd | sepski: alright. i've never used lvm before. will it let me mount a bunch of partitions in the same way that a linear raid will? |
| 12:16.29 | sepski | Bogaurd, yes |
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| 12:16.43 | Bogaurd | sepski: ah cool. |
| 12:16.46 | ravo | sepski: with that defaults and target file, do i copy them both to /etc/cricket/config now ? overwriting the old defaults, will the target file be picked up without configuring anything else? |
| 12:16.55 | Bogaurd | sepski: where do i begin then? :P |
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| 12:17.48 | sepski | Bogaurd, i allways start with searching for a package and reading the docs in the packagfe |
| 12:18.03 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay ;) |
| 12:18.40 | manbox | whta happens if i run 'make install' without 'make' first? |
| 12:18.54 | _nomad | manbox, then your install will not be completed |
| 12:18.56 | shocker | how can i make it so all files created in a specified folder have readable/writable/executable by all? |
| 12:19.07 | manbox | _nomad, how do you mean= |
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| 12:19.09 | black_Nightmare | hey |
| 12:19.13 | ravo | shocket: man chmod |
| 12:19.17 | _nomad | how do i mean ? |
| 12:19.25 | ravo | shocker: man chmod |
| 12:19.44 | _nomad | shocker: chmod +rw |
| 12:19.47 | _nomad | I think :D |
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| 12:20.01 | manbox | hey my install seems to work..? i dont know why or how.. but it seems to compile and install at the same time? |
| 12:20.04 | manbox | i dont know |
| 12:20.25 | sepski | Bogaurd, try lvm2 and the docs in there then http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/LVM-HOWTO/ |
| 12:20.51 | Bogaurd | sepski: thanks. i was just reading it :) |
| 12:21.16 | dimm0k | anyone have any ideas how to get rid of the "Unknown" when i compile my own kernels? uname -a gives me Linux enterprise-e 2.6.15-rc1-enterprise #1 PREEMPT Tue Nov 15 07:40:22 EST 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
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| 12:22.23 | sepski | !why is x not in sarge |
| 12:22.24 | dpkg | sepski: what are you talking about? |
| 12:22.28 | sepski | !why is x not in testing |
| 12:22.29 | amorphix | hi |
| 12:22.31 | dpkg | x is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=x |
| 12:22.34 | RalfG | hi there, I have to find the IP of a switch |
| 12:22.40 | RalfG | via snmp |
| 12:22.48 | RalfG | which tool is easy to use? |
| 12:22.57 | RalfG | the switch shows errors |
| 12:23.07 | amorphix | help! my kde keeps giving windows saying "artsd crashed causing signal 11" |
| 12:23.08 | RalfG | I have no COM port on my laptop |
| 12:23.22 | amorphix | do I need artsd? |
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| 12:23.43 | amorphix | i now have 26 crash windows for artsd |
| 12:23.54 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay, crerated myself a volume. now just gotta work out how to mount it :) |
| 12:24.03 | amorphix | think my sys is gonna run out of memory its getting slower |
| 12:24.20 | amorphix | help! |
| 12:24.31 | sepski | RalfG, snmp can tell you about the switch if you know the address. it won't help you to locate the switch. i'd either portscan for port 161. or i'd ping broadcast and search the arp table for the switch vendor's arp key. but the very easies would be to get a laptop with serial. or a usb2serial adapter |
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| 12:25.29 | amorphix | my kde keeps giving windows saying "artsd crashed causing signal 11" |
| 12:26.09 | stewpid | hrmz dpkg isnt working :x |
| 12:26.21 | amorphix | more frequent window crashes now, every second |
| 12:26.38 | amorphix | system is very slow |
| 12:26.56 | amorphix | help! |
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| 12:27.57 | ravo | sepski: ive copied that Defaults and made Targets file but when it loads it errors in the log No match tag found in map entry interface-name etc ? |
| 12:27.59 | whitehorse1 | Hi :o) |
| 12:28.11 | amorphix | help |
| 12:28.18 | amorphix | my kde keeps giving windows saying "artsd crashed causing signal 11" |
| 12:28.19 | tijn | hi |
| 12:28.23 | amorphix | i have 67 windows now! |
| 12:28.27 | ravo | amorphix: reboot it |
| 12:28.31 | amorphix | okay |
| 12:28.34 | amorphix | will that fix it? |
| 12:28.42 | black_Nightmare | amorph..just do it already |
| 12:28.44 | ravo | amorphix: who knows |
| 12:28.49 | whitehorse1 | amorphix reboot . |
| 12:28.52 | ravo | nice and quiet :) |
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| 12:29.30 | whitehorse1 | amorphix you can disable artsd via the kde control centre IIRC but...AFTER you reboot. now reboot your machine |
| 12:29.44 | ravo | whitehorse1: he's gone |
| 12:29.46 | Bogaurd | argh! how can i mount my lvm volume? |
| 12:29.46 | whitehorse1 | heh |
| 12:29.54 | ravo | anyone here running cricket ? |
| 12:29.55 | RalfG | sepski: well, thanks - but i can arrange a single attachment of the switch to my laptop |
| 12:30.05 | RalfG | then I just have to scan ports and IPs |
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| 12:30.09 | whitehorse1 | neither cricket nor nagios nope sorry |
| 12:30.29 | sepski | Bogaurd, did you mkfs it first ? :) |
| 12:30.39 | RalfG | I remember such tool like nmmap-gui |
| 12:31.40 | tijn | nmapfe |
| 12:31.43 | sepski | ravo join #flood |
| 12:32.12 | tijn | works great |
| 12:32.13 | tijn | :D |
| 12:32.20 | whitehorse1 | my pc's (dell p4, main pc) running etch, having received my new (2nd) pc yesteday though (pentium m, shuttle-size pc) I have to say somewhat ashamedly that I'm thinking of distro treason and installing kubuntu 3.5rc1 onto it instead :-( |
| 12:32.24 | RalfG | tijn: thanks, I think that was the one |
| 12:32.27 | Bogaurd | sepski: hmm. i used pvcreate on the partitions, then i made my volume group. the documentation becomes a little unclear (to me anyway) as to what to do now. |
| 12:32.27 | RalfG | stupid name though |
| 12:32.31 | RalfG | nmapfe |
| 12:32.34 | whitehorse1 | well, on the new one i mean |
| 12:32.53 | sepski | ravo, ill paste my Target's |
| 12:33.10 | pok_ | anybody know why debian wants to uninstall gnome when i try to install mysql-query-browser? |
| 12:33.29 | whitehorse1 | pok_: it's smart ;p |
| 12:33.32 | RalfG | there were some strange settings with netmask like /24 ? |
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| 12:33.53 | whitehorse1 | pok: nope, not offhand |
| 12:33.56 | sepski | Bogaurd, you need a logical volume. this is the thing you mkfs and mount |
| 12:34.00 | pok | whitehorse1: k, ta |
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| 12:34.27 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay, i found the 'recipies' in the documentation :) lemme have a shot. |
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| 12:34.46 | tijn | RalfG, np |
| 12:34.57 | tijn | nmap Front End :D |
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| 12:35.37 | sepski | pok, some unmet dependancy. try installing gnome first and see it something is not beeing installed |
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| 12:36.22 | pok | sepski: gnome is installed |
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| 12:36.31 | pok | sepski: i am running gnome 2.10 |
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| 12:37.34 | pok | sepski: think i have found the cause, will get back to you. thanks for the dependancy pointer |
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| 12:38.58 | black_Nightmare | *sigh* not again! |
| 12:39.03 | Bogaurd | sepski: this LVM is the best. I love you :) |
| 12:39.12 | CzarnyZajaczek | Hello! |
| 12:39.19 | sepski | Bogaurd, dont let my wife hear you :P |
| 12:39.33 | Bogaurd | sepski: :P |
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| 12:40.28 | Bogaurd | sepski: i assume that when i wanna add a partition to my LV, i need to use lvcreate again? |
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| 12:40.51 | CzarnyZajaczek | I have problem with apache (probably not caused by apache, but something else): I cannot contact to http://localhost |
| 12:40.54 | Bogaurd | sepski: or add a partiton to my VG. im not quite sure on the terminoligy. |
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| 12:42.13 | sepski | Bogaurd, you add space to the volume group and extend the logical volume. and resize the filesystem to fit the new size |
| 12:42.20 | sepski | http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/extendlv.html |
| 12:42.43 | Bogaurd | sepski: cool :) |
| 12:42.47 | CzarnyZajaczek | Debian sarge, kernel 2.4.27 |
| 12:42.55 | sepski | Bogaurd, you could ofcouse also use the space in the volume group for other things like a new logica volume or whatever you wanted |
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| 12:43.27 | Bogaurd | sepski: okay, im gonna delet the lv i just made, and try one out (adding a disc) |
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| 12:43.56 | sepski | Bogaurd, no need to delete it, just add a physical volume to the group and extend the logical volume. |
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| 12:44.13 | anabain | anybody using ndiswrapper? |
| 12:44.43 | Bogaurd | sepski: this was a little bogus one i just tried with 2 empty partitions. im gonna make a new one with the first partition only, put a few files on, then add the second partition. |
| 12:44.45 | SlayerXP | anabain: idiots, mainly. |
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| 12:45.57 | dimir | :-) |
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| 12:46.53 | Bogaurd | :) |
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| 12:47.18 | Bogaurd | its nearly midnight here. |
| 12:47.25 | Bogaurd | i think coffee is more suitable :P |
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| 12:48.40 | jelly | Eh, you downunders with your wacky timezones. ;-) |
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| 12:50.10 | Bogaurd | are there any limits as to how large a volume i can create with lvm? |
| 12:50.11 | anabain | SlayerXP, I agree with you, but if there is no driver for linux, what have those idiots to do? |
| 12:50.38 | dimir | pray!!! |
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| 12:51.00 | SlayerXP | anabain: throw the hardware away and buy something properly supported instead. |
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| 12:51.31 | anabain | SlayerXP, Will you put the money? |
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| 12:51.48 | SlayerXP | anabain: nope, they should think of it as a tax. |
| 12:51.50 | amorphix | I did a minimal installation earlier (did not choose 'Desktop') and I think I may be missing alot of stuff? I'm having some problems with sound (artsd) |
| 12:51.52 | SlayerXP | a stupidity tax. |
| 12:52.06 | amorphix | is there a way to fix that with a common installation? |
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| 12:53.05 | darkness1 | Hi, i'm looking at setting up an onion router which needs sock5 support. Anyone know if openssh that comes with the sarge stable d/loads has sock2? |
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| 12:53.10 | darkness1 | sock5* |
| 12:53.27 | dimir | darky_: yes. |
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| 12:53.34 | dimir | darkness1 too. |
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| 12:54.03 | amorphix | whats the command to get the options up for installation type? Desktop|Mailserver|DNS Server etc |
| 12:54.08 | dimir | darkness1: man ssh | grep SOCKS5 |
| 12:54.49 | dimir | s/KS5/KSS5 -A1/ |
| 12:54.56 | plbgnr | amorphix: base-config |
| 12:54.59 | dimir | damn, you get the idea. |
| 12:55.12 | amorphix | thanks plbgnr |
| 12:55.15 | new2linux | Hi everyone. can any one tell me please how can I switch from gnome to kde. I am runnung debian 3.1 |
| 12:55.20 | new2linux | thanks |
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| 12:55.41 | Bogaurd | argh! problem! cant resive the volume using e2fsadm =\ |
| 12:56.03 | darkness1 | Cool, i should be able to edit ssh_config to run tor :-) |
| 12:56.46 | dimir | darky_: that's what I use sometimes. |
| 12:56.51 | dimir | darkness1 too. |
| 12:57.01 | bibe | new2linux : apt-get install kde, then use your preferred DM (gdm, if you are running a "default" sarge desktop installation) to set your preferred WM to KDE |
| 12:57.02 | plbgnr | new2linux: 1st you have to install kde :) |
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| 12:58.36 | new2linux | bibe: I already have kde installed, but don't know how to configure xserver to run on kde rather than gnome!!.. |
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| 12:58.53 | amorphix | is exim4 needed even if you only use POP3/smtp in a mail client |
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| 12:59.09 | sepone | Bogaurd, resize2fs |
| 12:59.15 | azeem | new2linux: I assume you use gdm to login? |
| 12:59.32 | Zugschlus | amorphix: on Debian, you need an mta for a real system since your cron jobs might send e-mail. But you can replace exim with something more simple if the environment is appropriate |
| 12:59.36 | new2linux | azeem: yes I do use gdm |
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| 12:59.45 | azeem | new2linux: then you can simple choose KDE as your sessino |
| 12:59.47 | amorphix | ok thanks |
| 12:59.49 | Bogaurd | sepone: yeah trying that now :) it says i need to fsck first though? =\ |
| 12:59.53 | azeem | and tell it to use that by default |
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| 13:00.09 | sepone | Bogaurd, then do that then |
| 13:00.19 | Bogaurd | sepone: i am :P |
| 13:00.32 | new2linux | azeem: but I do not have kde as an option in gdm |
| 13:01.08 | azeem | new2linux: then it is not properly installed, I guess |
| 13:01.15 | check_tha | i tried to install debian with the minimal cd, looks ok but cannot get apt to connect to anything. I get an ip from my dhcp server and i have internet access on all other boxes |
| 13:01.19 | azeem | new2linux: did you choose the desktop task? |
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| 13:02.27 | amorphix | its like a train station in here |
| 13:02.36 | new2linux | azeem: I do not understand what you mean by desktop task....all kde application exist on my system... and evem the kde commands |
| 13:03.04 | amorphix | someone sell me a wireless nic |
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| 13:03.24 | amorphix | nkuttler guten tag |
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| 13:03.43 | jelly | amorphix: d'ya want a wireless router instead? ;-) |
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| 13:03.58 | amorphix | i have one jelly, but no nic for my lappy |
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| 13:04.09 | amorphix | i got a windows one, no driver support |
| 13:04.24 | jelly | amorphix: ndiswrapper does not work? |
| 13:04.38 | amorphix | i couldnt even bring myself to try it |
| 13:04.43 | amorphix | so i sold it |
| 13:04.44 | Bogaurd | amorphix: i have a spare wireless nic. |
| 13:04.50 | Bogaurd | amorphix: but its PCi. |
| 13:04.54 | amorphix | oh |
| 13:04.57 | Bogaurd | :P |
| 13:05.05 | amorphix | nevermind, i would of bought it |
| 13:05.15 | nkuttler | amorphix: mahlzeit |
| 13:05.16 | darkness1 | Sorry for being a pain, I get most of setting up tor with openssh. However, what does it mean by install *connect* into usr/local/bin dir? |
| 13:05.30 | amorphix | nkuttler alles klar |
| 13:05.30 | Bogaurd | amorphix: just out of interest, where do you live? |
| 13:05.38 | amorphix | im in the UK |
| 13:05.54 | Bogaurd | amorphix: well the shipping woulda been expensive then :) |
| 13:05.59 | amorphix | ahhh |
| 13:06.01 | Bogaurd | i'm in Australia. |
| 13:06.05 | amorphix | phew |
| 13:06.31 | amorphix | i can use surfacemail to Au its really cheap when I send stuff and just as quick as Airmail |
| 13:06.54 | amorphix | i sent a big book recently and it cost only £2 and took 4 days |
| 13:07.12 | Bogaurd | amorphix: wow, thats not bad. |
| 13:07.23 | amorphix | mm the buyer was very pleased :) |
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| 13:08.41 | new2linux | azeem: ???!!! |
| 13:08.43 | Guerin | bah |
| 13:08.45 | amorphix | 22mins to go until install finishes |
| 13:08.52 | Guerin | i have to send 90% of my books home soon |
| 13:09.03 | Guerin | the onew without resale value, that is |
| 13:09.13 | Guerin | it's going to cost a fucking fortune |
| 13:09.15 | amorphix | use surfacemail |
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| 13:09.28 | amorphix | sell them on ebay |
| 13:09.44 | Guerin | no way |
| 13:09.49 | amorphix | hehe |
| 13:09.53 | Guerin | mail from korea is both expensive and unreliable |
| 13:10.03 | amorphix | damn |
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| 13:11.28 | amorphix | its about 1 degrees here today |
| 13:11.53 | amorphix | im glad i have my laptop back in service its keeping me warm |
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| 13:11.58 | Guerin | yeh, it's fucking polar here too |
| 13:12.02 | blondie | cuddling your laptop :o |
| 13:12.06 | amorphix | hehe yes |
| 13:12.17 | amorphix | i rested the bottom of it on my cheek |
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| 13:12.26 | blondie | o.O |
| 13:12.30 | amorphix | usually that would hurt like hell, but not today |
| 13:12.30 | Evilcoder | yo! anyone russian here? |
| 13:13.03 | Evilcoder | yo! anyone russian here? |
| 13:13.06 | cap | Evilcoder, not 100%, why? |
| 13:13.06 | Bogaurd | Evilcoder: hey! |
| 13:13.07 | blondie | haha BBC weather says it's 9C here |
| 13:13.10 | blondie | Evilcoder: shush |
| 13:13.12 | Bogaurd | Evilcoder: not me :P |
| 13:13.13 | amorphix | I think theres a couple of KGB members hiding somewhere |
| 13:13.13 | blondie | it lies |
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| 13:13.20 | wouterrr | hello |
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| 13:13.31 | wouterrr | does debian use the /srv mount point in testing already for mysql and such? |
| 13:13.38 | amorphix | BBC is way off eh |
| 13:13.39 | cap | amorphix, secret services and the military is all around freenode ya know |
| 13:13.44 | Guerin | wouterrr: why for mysql? |
| 13:13.48 | amorphix | I have a thermometer outside my window |
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| 13:13.58 | aubergine | Does anyone know what the maximal filesize for FTP binary is? |
| 13:14.00 | wouterrr | because it's a service |
| 13:14.04 | wouterrr | and i wondered if it's used yet on debian |
| 13:14.07 | wouterrr | FHS compliance crap |
| 13:14.07 | Bogaurd | how many people does a limmo hold? |
| 13:14.08 | Guerin | aubergine: depends on client and server |
| 13:14.10 | oskie_ | it seems pam_krb5.so auth for ssh is borked. gives me "fatal: PAM: pam_setcred(): Error in service module" |
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| 13:14.16 | Guerin | Bogaurd: as many as you can cram in |
| 13:14.20 | blondie | The weather in Canterbury at 13:05 was: Temperature: 4.5C :( |
| 13:14.27 | Bogaurd | Guerin: without lying on the floor :P |
| 13:14.33 | Guerin | wouterrr: debian is FHS compliant, and LSB |
| 13:14.34 | Bogaurd | how many? 6-7? |
| 13:14.39 | aubergine | Guerin: Client is sitecopy and Server is ProFTPd |
| 13:14.39 | Guerin | Bogaurd: depends on the limo |
| 13:14.45 | wouterrr | that's why, but is it using /srv for anything, yet ? |
| 13:14.57 | amorphix | well its colder outside than inside my fridge |
| 13:14.58 | Guerin | wouterrr: not on my boxen, no. |
| 13:14.59 | Evilcoder | i'm just testing russian encodings on *nix system |
| 13:15.13 | amorphix | so i may as well turn the fridge off and put my stuff outside on the balcony |
| 13:15.15 | pafrusurewa | Skrotto: should be well under 40°C IMO |
| 13:15.18 | wouterrr | alright |
| 13:15.19 | pafrusurewa | sorry |
| 13:15.22 | pafrusurewa | wrong window :-) |
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| 13:15.40 | Guerin | aubergine: i don't know sitecopy, but I'm quite sure proftpd does big files. Shitty clients on 32-bit machines choke somewhere above 2G |
| 13:16.30 | aubergine | Guerin: Ok it was a 3,5G backup File |
| 13:16.34 | Bogaurd | Guerin: vsftpd doesnt seem to 'see' files around 4gb =\ |
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| 13:19.13 | Guerin | Bogaurd: vsftpd absolutely does support files over 4G on 32-bit |
| 13:19.22 | Guerin | i know this because I have had them uploaded to me |
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| 13:19.36 | Guerin | and because debian's dvd iso images are hosted on vsftpd |
| 13:19.44 | Bogaurd | Guerin: hmm. i couldnt do it the other day =\ |
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| 13:22.32 | lwolf | hi, need a little help on exim4 configuration : i've setted up exim4 to do auth over tls, but i want it to reject normal connection (notls, noauth) that do not came from the "allowed relay hosts" list. For now, tls + auth work perfectly, but i can also connect to smtp with (no tls + no auth) and send mails. Can someone point me to a howto on configuring this ? thans |
| 13:22.33 | lwolf | x |
| 13:23.15 | asg | lwolf: have you asked #exim or installed and read exim4-docs? |
| 13:23.52 | lwolf | asg, i've read exim4 docs on their site, but i'm totally lost on acl... |
| 13:24.05 | lwolf | but i've not asked #exim, will try ;) thanx |
| 13:24.32 | darkness1 | I'm trying to install connect into /usr/local/bin. I've tried install -o connect /usr/local/bin but i guess something is missing? |
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| 13:25.40 | jm_ | darkness1: why not simply use cp? |
| 13:25.44 | Zugschlus | lwolf: if you have installed exim from the Debian packages, see /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf, dc_relay_nets and dc_relay_domains |
| 13:26.04 | darkness1 | jm_, don't you really need to set ownership? |
| 13:26.08 | lwolf | Zugschlus, ok, thanx, but afaik, i think it is ok ;) |
| 13:26.18 | Zugschlus | lwolf: why does your exim relay then? |
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| 13:26.58 | lwolf | Zugschlus, ok.. found.. stupid |
| 13:26.58 | lwolf | ... |
| 13:27.04 | Zugschlus | what was wrong |
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| 13:27.22 | lwolf | Zugschlus, 192.168.0.x/0 , it allow all the range, not 192.168.0.x .... |
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| 13:27.29 | Zugschlus | ouch |
| 13:27.34 | lwolf | it should be 192.168.0.x/32 |
| 13:27.36 | lwolf | .... |
| 13:27.49 | lwolf | Zugschlus, thanx for pointing me on this.... |
| 13:27.56 | Zugschlus | lwolf: you're welcome |
| 13:27.56 | lwolf | <---idiot |
| 13:28.11 | Zugschlus | lwolf: no. Making mistakes is human |
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| 13:29.53 | jm_ | darkness1: it will be set to root as you'll cp it as root |
| 13:30.01 | relic|AFK | Hi all Bush-Haters |
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| 13:30.23 | lwolf | it is working !!!!! |
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| 13:30.27 | lwolf | thanx Zugschlus ;) |
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| 13:35.24 | karazu | alguem da lista utiliza microsiga em ambiente linux? |
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| 13:35.45 | manbox | guys, how do i check current available fs, and how do i format/create new fs on myhd- disc them? |
| 13:35.59 | jm_ | manbox: maybe you should read some newbie docs |
| 13:36.15 | SlayerXP | jm_: I doubt he has time |
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| 13:38.22 | manbox | jm_, where? |
| 13:38.57 | jm_ | manbox: /msg dpkg grounding |
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| 13:40.59 | spender | to all: does anybody know about Serial-ATA/Parallel-ATA conflicts, I mean, probably between ata_piix and generic_ide modules ? that problem prevents my combo dvd writer to be detected on my new toshiba laptop. |
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| 13:41.48 | jm_ | spender: maybe you meant ata_piix and ahci? |
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| 13:42.43 | spender | jm_: well, er... maybe... |
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| 13:43.11 | jm_ | spender: because both of the above mentioned modules are PATA related |
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| 13:44.34 | spender | jm_: you may be right, then. but how to prevent ata_piix from taking whole (but faulty) control on ide devices ? |
| 13:44.35 | pok | is there a way to go through all the installed packages and ensuring that all dependancies are installed correctly? (correct versions, etc) |
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| 13:45.28 | jm_ | spender: try passing options, like hdc=none |
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| 13:45.34 | spender | pok: i think you should do "man dpkg" |
| 13:45.59 | spender | jm_: in my grub menu.lst ? |
| 13:46.09 | Rejub | Hi. |
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| 13:46.36 | jm_ | spender: well you can pass it via modules.conf/modprobe.d mechanism if it's a module |
| 13:46.46 | jm_ | or on modprobe command line |
| 13:46.47 | Rejub | o.O |
| 13:46.54 | Rejub | Can I take a piss |
| 13:46.56 | Rejub | On your lawn |
| 13:47.02 | Rejub | Because be toilet is broken. |
| 13:47.03 | check_tha | good morning everyone (EST), I have downloaded debian minimal install and am trying to put it on a hp vectra vl400. The install went fine but when i am configuring apt I cannot connect to any servers |
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| 13:47.06 | ubik` | O.o |
| 13:47.07 | Rejub | And I really have to go. |
| 13:47.23 | check_tha | I do have an ip addy handed to me by my dhcp server |
| 13:47.24 | jm_ | check_tha: did it load NIC driver? |
| 13:47.34 | spender | jm_: ok. i dunno how to do that, but i'll give it a try. thanx |
| 13:47.47 | check_tha | jm_: I'm not sure how to verify that, I am fairly new to linux |
| 13:48.00 | jm_ | check_tha: dmesg|grep eth |
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| 13:48.32 | lwolf | check_tha, check your /etc/resolv.conf, it should contain your dns servers. |
| 13:48.38 | pem3v78 | how can I force ext2fs check after restart ? |
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| 13:49.03 | michael | how do I restart applications automatically within gnome? |
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| 13:49.16 | lwolf | pem3v78, remount readonly, and run fsck manualy |
| 13:49.21 | jm_ | pem3v78: check /etc/init.d/checkroot.sh for hint |
| 13:49.22 | check_tha | yes I do see my two dns servers |
| 13:49.24 | pem3v78 | it's root |
| 13:49.42 | lwolf | check_tha, can you ping the apt repositories servers ? |
| 13:49.47 | check_tha | I can ping my gateway |
| 13:49.52 | lwolf | michael, what kind of app ? |
| 13:49.56 | check_tha | but I cannot ping anything external |
| 13:49.58 | check_tha | :-( |
| 13:50.06 | lwolf | check_tha, ok |
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| 13:50.36 | michael | lwolf: like mozilla-firefox, mozilla-thunderbird, gkrellm, irssi-text |
| 13:50.38 | check_tha | I have a windows box here that works fine (well, i can get online... working fine is a relative term) |
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| 13:50.57 | lwolf | michael, you want them to start automatically ? |
| 13:51.22 | michael | lwolf: exactly. like everytime I log on, I'd like to have certain programs loaded automatically |
| 13:51.28 | lwolf | check_tha, perhaps it is your dhcp that do not give a gateway ip |
| 13:51.51 | lwolf | michael, look for configuring sessions |
| 13:51.51 | check_tha | jm_: when I type dmsg|grep eth I recieve a command not found |
| 13:52.07 | lwolf | michael, in session configuration, you can give the app you want to load at startup |
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| 13:52.29 | jm_ | check_tha: dmesg |
| 13:52.42 | michael | lwolf: got it, thank you! |
| 13:53.19 | check_tha | jm_: no IPv6 routers present |
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| 13:54.19 | jm_ | check_tha: but it did say eth0: blabla? |
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| 13:55.11 | check_tha | jm_: yes it says eth0: no IPv6 routers present |
| 13:55.24 | jm_ | check_tha: ok, does it have an IP assigned? |
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| 13:55.56 | check_tha | jm_: yes it does |
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| 13:56.06 | jm_ | check_tha: is it the right one? how about default gateway? |
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| 13:56.18 | xfan | when will be IPv6 on the Internet ? |
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| 13:56.32 | Ronin | xfan: it is |
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| 13:57.12 | xfan | ? |
| 13:57.31 | Ronin | ipv6 is on the net |
| 13:57.36 | check_tha | jm_: I do an ifconfig and it shows me a bunch of info ip ethernet addy etc.... I checked on my router and the dhcp addy matches the nic's mac. how do I check to see if it has a default gateway? |
| 13:57.41 | check_tha | sorry |
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| 13:57.43 | check_tha | such a noob |
| 13:57.54 | jm_ | check_tha: netstat -nr |
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| 13:59.54 | jm_ | check_tha: btw, did ifconfig actually list an IP address or its Ethernet address? |
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| 14:02.04 | check_tha | jm_: ok, i'm not sure what I am supposed to see here when I do a netstat -nr, there are two lines of info the second one shows my gateway but the first shows the subnet mask and they both list eth0 as the interface, does that sound correct? |
| 14:02.23 | check_tha | yes ifconfig does show an ip and ma |
| 14:02.24 | check_tha | c |
| 14:02.26 | jm_ | check_tha: please paste netstat -nr and ifconfig -a output one some paste site (/msg spkg paste) |
| 14:02.29 | DeadS0ul | is there a way to back up my whole debian installation? incase I want to restore it? |
| 14:03.48 | publunch | I'm trying to compile a kernel on my other computer. It says I need ncurses-devel in order to use 'make menuconfig', but I can't find packace ncurses-devel. I guess I need ncurses-base, ncurses-bin and ncurses-term. I can probably fix this problem, but I thought I would mention it because some ppl might get stymied by it. |
| 14:03.51 | jm_ | check_tha: that should be /msg dpkg paste |
| 14:03.58 | jm_ | publunch: /msg dpkg menuconfig |
| 14:04.46 | check_tha | i can type it out |
| 14:04.54 | ravo | anyone here use cricket? |
| 14:04.59 | jm_ | no don't do that, oaste it on some paste site (not here!) |
| 14:05.04 | jm_ | ravo: yes, you :P |
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| 14:05.19 | ravo | jm_ no rephrase, im trying to use :) |
| 14:05.21 | cast | only when i need to occupy large groups of bored englishmen |
| 14:05.25 | cast | which is to say, never |
| 14:05.52 | ravo | DeadS0ul: Norton Ghost |
| 14:06.10 | yoo | Hi all ! |
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| 14:06.53 | DeadS0ul | ravo: ah, thanx |
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| 14:07.36 | jeanjacques | hello |
| 14:07.37 | ravo | DeadS0ul: np :) there are other imaging variants, i heard good things about a piece of software called trueimage |
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| 14:07.50 | check_tha | jm_: I don't know any paste site, also how would I paste it if I can't get online? again sorry for being a dumbass |
| 14:07.50 | jeanjacques | in which package can i find the mysql header on stable ? |
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| 14:08.03 | jm_ | check_tha: well you're online now? |
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| 14:08.06 | DeadS0ul | ravo: I might have to change my paritition table though, windows doens't wanna install with my current parittion table =( |
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| 14:08.10 | jm_ | !tell check_tha -about paste |
| 14:08.14 | jm_ | check_tha: got that? |
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| 14:10.18 | diks[rus] | hi all |
| 14:10.28 | DeadS0ul | heya |
| 14:10.41 | kneet | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:10.41 | kneet | # Scream blue murder |
| 14:10.41 | kneet | print qq|More than one parent row found for manual\n|; |
| 14:10.41 | kneet | exit(1); |
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| 14:10.59 | kneet | Sry - wrong channel |
| 14:11.25 | gentoo_loser | Hello |
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| 14:13.25 | manbox | jm_, i was looking for the fdisk, and mke2fs commands, i found them now |
| 14:13.51 | schippes | hotplug network adapters can be warm-plugged in but network must manually ifdown-ed by hand before unplugging, is that correct ? otherwise my impression is that the whole hotplug/ifupdown scripting system cripples down miserably ... |
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| 14:15.15 | azeem | schippes: well, NetworkManager is supposed to be the solution for that; there might be other, less elegant ones available already |
| 14:15.57 | jm_ | manbox: right |
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| 14:17.04 | schippes | azeem: i guess hotplug never calls ifdown to deconfigure a nic since its is already pulled out... is that true ? |
| 14:17.10 | manbox | jm_, thx |
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| 14:17.41 | azeem | schippes: hrm, dunno |
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| 14:18.02 | lestest | hi there is there a tool similar to zgrep fro bzip2 archives? |
| 14:18.03 | schippes | cause i dont see a clean way to ifdown something that is no more on the system |
| 14:18.09 | jah | hello! |
| 14:18.18 | azeem | lestest: bzgrep |
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| 14:18.56 | lestest | azeem: easy :) thankz |
| 14:19.38 | azeem | schippes: you could file a bug against udev trying to get this discussed (assuming this is a real issue, and not just something you'd have to do twice a year manually otherwise), but be aware that the udev/hotplug maintainer is quick to close bugs he deems invalid |
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| 14:20.20 | schippes | azeem: the whole thing would be ok if i could tell hotplug to *only* unload the relevant kernel modules and forget all the ifdown stuff... |
| 14:20.37 | azeem | schippes: is this on stable or something else? |
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| 14:20.57 | schippes | cause an abruptly pulled nic wont restart if modules are not unloaded b4 |
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| 14:21.11 | schippes | stable... |
| 14:21.13 | check_tha | jm_: http://mishu.eu.org/paste/view.php?id=2550 |
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| 14:21.46 | jm_ | check_tha: can you ping the gateway? |
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| 14:22.48 | check_tha | jm_: yes |
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| 14:22.58 | schippes | brb |
| 14:23.17 | jm_ | check_tha: ok, does gateway forward packets for your host? can you resolve hostnames? can you access hosts by using their IP addresses? |
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| 14:23.41 | pabs3 | !ops Linda[ICQ] is an onjoin porno spambot |
| 14:23.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Linda[ICQ] is an onjoin porno spambot |
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| 14:24.09 | jm_ | !unknown hero++ |
| 14:24.12 | Wanderer | Anyone have the "mencode" binary? It doesn't appear to be in the mplayer package anymore |
| 14:24.15 | streuner | pabs3: ignore it and /topic |
| 14:24.21 | jm_ | Wanderer: it has its own package |
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| 14:24.37 | Viniciusptu | how i can dowload the librery |
| 14:24.40 | UdontKnow | jm_: almost unknown |
| 14:24.45 | Viniciusptu | how i can dowload the termcap-compat |
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| 14:24.47 | Wanderer | jm: in debian? apt-cache search doesn't have any hits. I also didn't see it on the mplay er web page |
| 14:24.50 | check_tha | jm_ no, I can only ping the gateway... it seems like i am not getting past it... nothing external, I tried setting up apt by ip of the host and nothing |
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| 14:24.53 | jm_ | Wanderer: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 14:24.54 | microsys | hi, is there any command to find out what kind of ram is used and/or how many banks are in use by it? |
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| 14:25.00 | Wanderer | ok |
| 14:25.04 | jm_ | UdontKnow: right, thanks |
| 14:25.08 | streuner | !spambots |
| 14:25.08 | dpkg | spambots are annoying. If you want to prevent the messages from coming at you incessantly, go to http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#spambots and read up. |
| 14:25.21 | cast | Wanderer: i have it, but just go grab the mplayer source and compile it |
| 14:25.38 | Viniciusptu | how i can dowload the termcap-compat |
| 14:25.41 | cast | Wanderer: mplayer has wads of legal issues that stop it from getting into debian |
| 14:25.47 | jm_ | microsys: tried dmidecode? |
| 14:25.53 | jm_ | Viniciusptu: why would you? |
| 14:26.02 | Wanderer | cast: it's in the source package still? |
| 14:26.04 | pabs3 | streuner: well, be good if someone could just kickban the bot as well :) |
| 14:26.05 | jm_ | check_tha: then you probably need to fix the gateway |
| 14:27.05 | Viniciusptu | because i nedd the library libtermcap.so.2 |
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| 14:27.18 | jm_ | Viniciusptu: stop using outdated software |
| 14:27.30 | microsys | check_tha, i did not read all of your discussion, but have you set default route to use your GW? |
| 14:27.36 | check_tha | really? it works fine for 2 xp boxes I have here |
| 14:28.03 | Viniciusptu | how i update my software? |
| 14:28.13 | jm_ | check_tha: that doesn't mean it's configured correctly - or maybe your NIC is not configured correctly |
| 14:28.17 | jm_ | recompile it? |
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| 14:28.32 | cast | Wanderer: no, i meant grab the .tar.gz |
| 14:28.49 | check_tha | yes I have two xboxs that can get to the web too... I think it must be the nic |
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| 14:28.58 | Viniciusptu | i'm a newuser |
| 14:29.09 | jm_ | well check NIC's link status and configuration then |
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| 14:29.47 | Viniciusptu | you tell with me? |
| 14:29.54 | Viniciusptu | jm_? |
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| 14:30.31 | jm_ | Viniciusptu: no that part about NIC was not for you |
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| 14:31.20 | Viniciusptu | thanks |
| 14:31.28 | jm_ | the recompilation part was for you |
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| 14:31.44 | drzoot | anyone know if fsck.vfat will mark bad clusters in the fat so that whats left of the fs can be used? |
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| 14:32.42 | Guerin | drzoot: it won't |
| 14:32.48 | Guerin | drzoot: use badblocks for that |
| 14:33.02 | Guerin | drzoot: but you really should just replace the medium |
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| 14:33.21 | Guerin | blocks are like apples - it only takes a few bad ones to spoil the whole barrel |
| 14:33.24 | jm_ | badblocks won't help with that |
| 14:33.29 | drzoot | Guerin: its an ipod :( |
| 14:33.39 | check_tha | jm: thanks for your help, i appreciate it. how do i check the nics configuration? |
| 14:33.40 | Guerin | drzoot: replace the drive |
| 14:33.52 | jm_ | check_tha: ifconfig -a, and mii-diag/ethtool for link status |
| 14:33.56 | drzoot | replace the drive in an ipod?? you can do that? |
| 14:34.03 | jm_ | sure you can |
| 14:34.06 | Guerin | drzoot: it's a standard part which you can probably get from someplace ... the OS might be another matter |
| 14:34.07 | BroederA | hi, how to unpack a .tar.bz2 archive? |
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| 14:34.17 | asg | BroederA: /msg dpkg tar |
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| 14:34.33 | cheal | for example in http://people.debian.org/~jfs/debconf3/security/security-discussion.pdf what's the difference of meaning between "Mean time" and "Average time"? |
| 14:34.38 | drzoot | well, before i get that complicated, can i try to mark the blocks as bad in the fat? |
| 14:34.40 | Guerin | knowing apple, they probably build a self-destruct anti-tamper mechanism and use screws with an apple-shaped aperture |
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| 14:35.02 | Guerin | but i had to open my ikillah up the other day, and the drive would be trivially replaceable if I had another |
| 14:35.02 | SimonRaven | nah, just torx bits probably |
| 14:35.10 | jm_ | drzoot: man page lists -t option, but you're on your own |
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| 14:35.12 | asg | Guerin: nah, there's probably a little imp inside that slaps the cuffs on when you remove the housing. |
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| 14:35.21 | SimonRaven | hehe |
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| 14:35.35 | Lordthundering | guys, i need help using apache2 and mod_perl |
| 14:35.45 | SimonRaven | #apache |
| 14:35.48 | Guerin | asg: wearing a black turtleneck and rimless glasses |
| 14:35.51 | BroederA | asg: the problem is that it says Cannot exec: No such file or dir |
| 14:35.57 | asg | Guerin: and drinking a latte |
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| 14:36.04 | asg | BroederA: type '/msg dpkg tar' in your irc client |
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| 14:36.12 | BroederA | done.. |
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| 14:36.15 | asg | BroederA: our bot will give you the baseline cheatsheet for tarishness |
| 14:36.39 | drzoot | jm_: im using the -t option now, im fairly sure i got it to work but then i updated the ipod which nuked the fat so im fixing again and not updating |
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| 14:37.06 | BroederA | asg: I've done what the bot says ... but no results |
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| 14:37.28 | asg | BroederA: then it untar'd your file |
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| 14:37.47 | asg | BroederA: xjf <foo> does things silently. use xvjf if you want to see what's going on. |
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| 14:38.10 | BroederA | asg: tar: bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory |
| 14:38.19 | asg | BroederA: the install bzip2 |
| 14:38.20 | Luqq | apt-get install bzip2 |
| 14:38.24 | asg | s/the/then/ |
| 14:38.33 | SimonRaven | so install bzip2 |
| 14:38.34 | jm_ | such simple things are like rocket science for some ;) |
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| 14:38.40 | Luqq | heheheh |
| 14:38.45 | Luqq | just read the error mate :D |
| 14:38.50 | BroederA | tx |
| 14:39.03 | asg | !installit |
| 14:39.03 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 14:39.08 | BroederA | erm the error is not that clear for me |
| 14:39.17 | asg | BroederA: Cannot exec: No such file or directory |
| 14:39.17 | BroederA | but now it is :) |
| 14:39.19 | Luqq | no such file or directory |
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| 14:39.25 | Luqq | seems pretty clear now heh? |
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| 14:40.15 | BroederA | yeah, but first I think.. hmm maybe a rights issue or something. It was not in my head that is is possible tar uses bzip2 |
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| 14:41.21 | Luqq | with -j option, it does |
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| 14:41.49 | Luqq | anyway |
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| 14:42.05 | Luqq | i want to deinstall the qmail package, but stupid me has deleted the files that qmail uses =\ |
| 14:42.14 | Luqq | so it gives an error like this: |
| 14:42.19 | jm_ | touch them |
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| 14:42.24 | Luqq | i did |
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| 14:42.33 | Luqq | but it said invalid format |
| 14:42.40 | Luqq | qmail-newu: fatal: unable to open users/assign |
| 14:42.51 | Luqq | so i touched /var/qmail/users/assign |
| 14:42.56 | jm_ | yeah you'll have to modify scripts to get arround it |
| 14:42.56 | BroederA | another question, at "make" some stuff I get the message gcc: command not found. It is installed as far as I know, but I think it must be placed in the PATH environment var. What is the regular way to do this? |
| 14:42.58 | botsy | what's the better vmware or wine or qemu? |
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| 14:43.13 | jm_ | BroederA: it's in PATH by default |
| 14:43.20 | asg | botsy: if better == DFSG free, then qemu, otherwise, go with vmware. |
| 14:43.20 | Luqq | qmail-newu: fatal: bad format in users/assign |
| 14:43.33 | valdyn_ | botsy: you're comparing apples and oranges |
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| 14:44.22 | botsy | because i have a problem with vmware ... it create a conflic with ifconfig |
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| 14:44.44 | shad0wcat | I know this is offtopic, but does anyone use Cygwin/X in here? |
| 14:44.50 | EtnaRosso | mornig all, i need to install the dia utility |
| 14:44.56 | asg | EtnaRosso: apt-get install dia |
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| 14:45.02 | BroederA | jm_: do you have hints what then the problem is? package gcc-3.3-base is installed |
| 14:45.05 | jm_ | Shadur: lots of people use it at my workplace |
| 14:45.14 | EtnaRosso | but it doesn't work, i think i had to add some source |
| 14:45.16 | jm_ | BroederA: apt-get install build-essential |
| 14:45.23 | jm_ | shad0wcat see above |
| 14:45.30 | asg | EtnaRosso: what debian version are you using? |
| 14:45.34 | EtnaRosso | ubuntu |
| 14:45.40 | asg | EtnaRosso: then ask #ubuntu |
| 14:45.50 | EtnaRosso | great suggestion ;) |
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| 14:46.36 | BroederA | jm_: no package found; using apt-cache search I found no simular |
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| 14:48.12 | iwilcox | Are serial devices supposed to keep state across open()s? Bit hard to explain the problem, but...I'm opening a serial tty, performing some ioctls, and closing again. First time I do this one of the ioctls fails. Second time around, the same ioctl succeeds. |
| 14:48.20 | BroederA | gcc can't be found. Have installed packages I found with apt-cache search gcc.. what have I to do else? |
| 14:48.48 | EtnaRosso | bye all |
| 14:48.49 | quest_ | can anyone help me with 2200bg wireless card? |
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| 14:48.54 | BroederA | byw |
| 14:49.10 | iwilcox | quest_: Only if you tell me what the problem is :) |
| 14:49.44 | quest_ | iwilcox, i installed the ipw2200-source (with apt-get) i don't kow what to do |
| 14:50.07 | iwilcox | quest_: OK, let me pull out the incantation you need. |
| 14:50.11 | doleyb | how can i do a bash loop "for i in *;do" that'll work for all valid filenames? |
| 14:50.30 | valdyn_ | doleyb: just like that |
| 14:50.43 | Guerin | doleyb: for i in *; do foo "$i" ; done |
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| 14:51.04 | Guerin | doleyb: you might need ' ' to catch some pretty far-out filenames |
| 14:51.07 | doleyb | Guerin: fails on file named a\ b |
| 14:51.15 | quest_ | iwilcox, how can i see if everything is working? |
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| 14:51.36 | iwilcox | quest_: You've built your own kernel, right? Or have sources lying around? |
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| 14:51.53 | resiak | doleyb: No it doesn't, if you do foo "$i" rather than do foo $i |
| 14:51.54 | quest_ | iwilcox, i apt-get the kernel-image |
| 14:51.58 | Guerin | doleyb: bah, yeah, even ' ' leaves \ out |
| 14:52.03 | iwilcox | doleyb: find and xargs are often better for that |
| 14:52.25 | iwilcox | doleyb: With the "-print0" and "-0" options, respectively. |
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| 14:52.55 | doleyb | iwilcox: find -exec is terser & saner-looking than find -print0 |
| 14:53.06 | iwilcox | quest_: I think you need to have sources. |
| 14:53.12 | hello_everyone | jm: I threw in a new nic and i'm starting over, I was using the onboard one. since i dunno squat about linux yet I hope this one works better, again, thanks for the help |
| 14:53.34 | iwilcox | quest_: I built my own, then did the incantations...bit long, so don't wanna paste spam here... |
| 14:53.54 | quest_ | iwilcox, with knoppix it works fine. is there a way to use knoppix and see useful information i can use without using the sources? |
| 14:53.58 | staniel | how do I stop firestarter/iptables from printing output to the console screns? |
| 14:54.00 | hawking | where are the python modules located in linux? |
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| 14:54.30 | iwilcox | quest_: Well, that depends on your problem. What doesn't work? Do you have a broken ipw2200 driver, or none at all? |
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| 14:55.12 | quest_ | iwilcox, i'm newbie, so i don't know. i just apt-getted the ipw2200-source, that's all |
| 14:55.20 | resiak | !ipw2200 |
| 14:55.20 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-source-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200 |
| 14:55.34 | iwilcox | quest_: If you're a newbie, building your own ipw2200 driver is probably a little beyond you... |
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| 14:56.08 | iwilcox | quest_: Don't Debian kernels come with at least an old ipw2200? |
| 14:56.10 | quest_ | iwilcox, that's why i'm looking a siple way to have it |
| 14:56.25 | quest_ | iwilcox, i think no |
| 14:56.29 | bibe | quest_ : only 2.6.14 kernels, from Sid |
| 14:56.30 | resiak | iwilcox: Lies. the way dpkg describes is trivial, and only 2.6.14 (which is in Sid) comes with ipw2200 |
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| 14:56.42 | schippes | how can i tell the hotplug system to unload kernel modules after card pull-out ? of course i know the trivial command, the problem is finding the right place to insert the trivial line |
| 14:56.59 | quest_ | bibe, so i should dist-upgrade? |
| 14:57.01 | Wanderer | anyone got a handy comandline for mencoder handy? seems "-h" and "--help" aren't working. trying to test real quick before this meeting |
| 14:57.09 | bibe | quest_ : sorry, the message was for iwilcox |
| 14:57.13 | Guerin | Wanderer: doom9.org |
| 14:57.19 | iwilcox | resiak: Alright. Let's wish quest_ the best of luck :) |
| 14:57.22 | darkness1 | Anyone know how to apt the program connect? |
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| 14:57.31 | asg | darkness1: ? |
| 14:57.37 | Wanderer | Guerin: thanks |
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| 14:57.54 | iwilcox | bibe: Ah. I stopped using Debian kernels a while back, see... |
| 14:58.06 | bibe | quest_ : stick with sarge, it's way better for a "newbie" |
| 14:58.15 | stew | schippes: iirc your hotplug script will be called with the $ACTION env var set to remove |
| 14:58.57 | iwilcox | stew: I find that to be voodoo :) |
| 14:59.07 | quest_ | bibe, what can i do with sarge if i don't have wifi which is the most imporant thing? i think it is better to turn to sid., sicne i don't use much programs. if it wont' work... then i use windows |
| 14:59.08 | darkness1 | I'm after a program called connect for sarge. It allows socket connections via sock5. |
| 14:59.16 | asg | darkness1: /msg dpkg search |
| 14:59.20 | darkness1 | k |
| 14:59.44 | bibe | quest_ : what kind of support do you need to your ipw2200 card? Connectivity only, or monitor mode? |
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| 14:59.50 | Guerin | quest_: get a real nic for the install, then grab a sid kernel after. |
| 15:00.09 | quest_ | bibe, i don't know the difference, i just want to connect to internet, nothing else |
| 15:00.18 | Gnea | oskie: hrm |
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| 15:00.38 | Wanderer | wow, alot of errors on the encode |
| 15:00.40 | iwilcox | resiak: See, this is why I reckon those instructions ain't so simple for the fella. |
| 15:00.42 | quest_ | Guerin, i am in the laptop now where i want to install the wifi |
| 15:00.53 | quest_ | Guerin, and using the real nic |
| 15:01.08 | stew | quest_: ipw2200 is not hard to get working once debian is already installed, but it wouldn't be as easy if you want to install over that nic |
| 15:01.11 | bibe | quest_ : so use sarge and follow the instructions for module-assistant (don't use ieee80211, it's not needed/included in sarge) |
| 15:01.14 | Wanderer | Guerin: hey, I'm trying to convert some home movies from .avi to mpeg |
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| 15:01.26 | Guerin | Wanderer: transcode might be for you |
| 15:01.28 | Wanderer | Any idea what's a good way to go for type of mpeg? |
| 15:01.38 | Wanderer | need to save the space and wife won't let me just wipe em |
| 15:01.42 | quest_ | bibe, i also used module-assistant but i had errors |
| 15:01.49 | stew | Wanderer: it might be mpeg already |
| 15:01.51 | Guerin | quest_: oh. Don't go wholesale to sid, then, just install the kernel and some minimal utils, if you can get away with it. |
| 15:01.55 | stew | quest_: /msg dpkg ipw2200 |
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| 15:02.11 | Guerin | quest_: i can't help you on the details, but you're in good hands already. |
| 15:02.21 | alienbrain | Anybody know what's the use of the file: /usr/X11R6/bin/X which comes with xserver-common package ? |
| 15:02.42 | Wanderer | alienbrain: use "startx" or gdm, don't call X directly |
| 15:02.59 | stew | alienbrain: X is a graphical windowing environment |
| 15:03.05 | quest_ | stew, i already did it, but i couldn't let it work, since i think it uses a kernel source, while i have the kenrnel imagie |
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| 15:03.21 | i10neorg | How do you determine the partiuclars of a iso9660 fs, like weather it's using Joliet or Rockridge? |
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| 15:03.37 | i10neorg | Beyond mounting "-o norock", etc and seeing what you find? |
| 15:03.42 | alienbrain | Wanderer, ok, but I need to know the use of this file. |
| 15:03.55 | schippes | stew: i added the rmmod command in the /etc/hotplug/net.agent under the 'case $ACTION remove clause' after checking the $INTERFACE variable (do only if set to wifi0 ) so i guess even if i hacked by hand those system files it may be the right place to perform automatic module unloading .... |
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| 15:04.24 | stew | quest_: you just need to install the kernel-headers package that corresponds to your kernel |
| 15:04.31 | bibe | quest_ : 'apt-get install build-essential debhelper devscripts dh-make module-assistant kernel-package wireless-tools bzip2 fakeroot' and rerun module-assistant. You can do it even with less packages |
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| 15:04.53 | c_k | hi all |
| 15:04.54 | alienbrain | Wanderer, but since xinit is the one who executes the XFree86 binary (or equalivant Xorg), then what does the /usr/X11R6/bin/X do |
| 15:04.55 | bibe | quest_ : and sure, kernel-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 15:05.25 | stew | schippes: what version of debian? |
| 15:05.37 | schippes | stable |
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| 15:06.28 | schippes | stew errata the agent is in /etc/hotplug/default/net.agent .... :-) |
| 15:06.54 | quest_ | bibe, E: Couldn't find package kernel-headers-2.6.12-1-686 |
| 15:06.56 | schippes | oh no, the first one was correct |
| 15:07.02 | schippes | sorry |
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| 15:07.19 | bibe | quest_ : you are using a kernel from etch (testing) |
| 15:07.41 | Guerin | quest_: linux-headers |
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| 15:08.14 | quest_ | bibe, and what can i do then? |
| 15:08.26 | bibe | !ipw2200 |
| 15:08.26 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-source-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200 |
| 15:09.00 | bibe | quest_ : as stated above, m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200 |
| 15:09.14 | stew | quest_: if you are using a kernel from testing you would need to install gcc-4.0 from testing in order to compile any modules for that kernel |
| 15:09.39 | quest_ | bibe, did that. and i had this ---> FATAL: Could not rename /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/modules.dep.temp into /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
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| 15:10.14 | quest_ | stew, gcc-4.0 is already the newest version. |
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| 15:10.17 | bibe | quest_ : stew pointed out the question. You are using a gcc-4.0 built kernel image in a gcc-3.3 (sarge) system |
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| 15:10.51 | bibe | quest_ : so 'cat /etc/debian_version' shows 'testing/unstable'? |
| 15:11.13 | quest_ | bibe, yes |
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| 15:12.34 | stew | quest_: oh i thought you were on stable, in that case you should be gettin linux-image-? and linux-headers-? |
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| 15:12.55 | stew | quest_: what does "uname -r" say currently? |
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| 15:13.24 | quest_ | stew, 2.6.12-1-686 |
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| 15:14.17 | stew | quest_: in that case the instructions in "/msg dpkg ipw2200" really should work for you, if they don't tell us exactly what error you get |
| 15:14.36 | jason^2 | i'm trying to run ssh and i'm getting segfaults, even without any arguments... strace says "old_mmap(NULL, 4096, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb7fe8000" then segfaults... any ideas? |
| 15:14.46 | quest_ | stew, FATAL: Could not rename /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/modules.dep.temp into /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/modules.dep: No such file or directory |
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| 15:15.35 | stew | quest_: you get that at what step in the process? |
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| 15:16.07 | quest_ | stew, m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200 |
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| 15:17.25 | fireba11 | a good tool to test network throughput ? |
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| 15:17.54 | Nirga1 | fireball: amule? ;) |
| 15:18.00 | justStormY | ai guys ;) |
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| 15:18.34 | justStormY | can anybody tell me what system tool ist this (up) http://www.schoppi.de/galerie/galleries/screenshots/screenshot20030429.png |
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| 15:19.24 | eye69 | justStormY: gkrellm |
| 15:19.30 | justStormY | no this on top |
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| 15:19.33 | fireba11 | Nirga1: lol ... nned to find out where our network bottleneck is and need to test between a couple different pcs for that |
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| 15:21.30 | quest_ | stew, i did it again and says that everythng is installed |
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| 15:23.36 | justStormY | google is down *cry* |
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| 15:23.49 | valdyn_ | justStormY: probably gdesklets |
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| 15:24.16 | secher | can someone translate this: E: Couldn't configure pre-depend coreutils for debianutils, probably a dependency cycle. |
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| 15:24.33 | secher | i.e. how can i fix it... |
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| 15:25.29 | fireba11 | justStormY: no it's not .. DNS is just unstable |
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| 15:25.57 | fireba11 | secher: what did you try to install ? |
| 15:26.15 | doleyb | Am i right in guessing no debian package can read a *.lit file? ("microsoft reader") |
| 15:26.38 | fireba11 | doleyb: probably .. never heared of .lit anyway |
| 15:26.57 | ziupiu | fireba11, yes, it is, http://66.249.85.99 |
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| 15:27.31 | doleyb | fireba11: they can be gotten http://etext.lib.virginia.edu/ebooks/Wlist.html , for example |
| 15:27.40 | doleyb | even "file" doesn't know them |
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| 15:28.13 | pabs3 | doleyb: http://convertlit.com |
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| 15:28.30 | pabs3 | doleyb: theres no package of that yet though |
| 15:28.33 | fireba11 | ziupiu: oh .. worked a couple mins ago though |
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| 15:28.57 | fireba11 | ziupiu: and it's working again now |
| 15:28.58 | secher | fireba11: I had a system crash the other day, and I'm trying to reinstall all packages using the following cl: apt-get install --reinstall `dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | grpe -v ndiswrapper | cut -f1` and I get that error just as the install is to begin. |
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| 15:29.18 | stew | doleyb: those will almost definately be DRMed in a way in which debian wouldn't be able to provide software for them |
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| 15:29.38 | fireba11 | hm .. did you manually check your package list ? got a comple removed and reinstalled things in mine listed more than once |
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| 15:29.49 | pok_ | anybody know i can resolve a W: Warning: could not lock the cache file. Opening in read-only mode |
| 15:29.51 | doleyb | stew: not always, some people use them for PD material because they don't know better. |
| 15:30.07 | pok_ | error message, when trying to run aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 15:30.15 | fireba11 | pok_: cache file si probably already opened by somethign .. |
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| 15:31.00 | pok_ | fireba11: do you know how i can determine what has opened the cache file? |
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| 15:32.05 | secher | fireba11: I did not check the list manually, however, did an apt-get clean just before I ran the line which should have cleared out an wierdness in naming and there's nothing being removed, just reinstalls. |
| 15:32.06 | stew | pok_: ps aux | egrep "(apt|dselect|dpkg|synaptic)" |
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| 15:32.31 | secher | fireba11: I guess I don't understand what you mean. I'm looking at the list, and I see no dupes. |
| 15:32.33 | stew | i guess synaptic was redundant there |
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| 15:33.00 | pok_ | stew: thanks |
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| 15:33.44 | secher | fireba11: brb, changing clients. |
| 15:33.46 | fireba11 | secher: had some install and uninstall of the same apckage in mine once .. |
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| 15:34.30 | secher | fireba11: Oh, I see what you mean, I think. lemme try something. |
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| 15:34.49 | justStormY | can anybody tell me how to run a programm automatically wehen cfce starts? |
| 15:35.03 | fireba11 | what is cfce ? |
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| 15:35.12 | justStormY | xfce |
| 15:35.13 | justStormY | sry |
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| 15:35.35 | sussudio | justStormY: don't come here for kanotix support |
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| 15:36.16 | justStormY | wtf sussudio? |
| 15:36.22 | justStormY | im not using kanotix... |
| 15:36.30 | justStormY | fine debian sarge... |
| 15:36.44 | jelly | vintage '05 |
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| 15:36.54 | sussudio | justStormY on #debian #kanotix #remote-exploit |
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| 15:36.58 | sussudio | don't lie |
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| 15:37.02 | justStormY | and? |
| 15:37.08 | ArtVandalae | To append hosts from hosts.a to hosts, I would cat hosts.a >> hosts? |
| 15:37.17 | thingfish | I /join #fedora lots of times but I sure as hell don't run fedora. |
| 15:37.22 | redguy | ArtVandalae: right |
| 15:37.27 | ArtVandalae | Cheers |
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| 15:37.45 | justStormY | lol sussudio - in your opinoion i only should be in dabian, to use debian |
| 15:37.48 | sussudio | thingfish: right. like fedora is a debian derivative. |
| 15:37.48 | justStormY | your funny |
| 15:37.56 | sussudio | !kanotix |
| 15:37.56 | dpkg | kanotix is probably not Debian, and we can't help you. Go /join #kanotix, or such a big fan of debian, it has sources for woody, sarge AND sid in sources.list (sid default) |
| 15:38.05 | stew | justStormY: just /ignore him |
| 15:38.10 | thingfish | sussudio: who ever said it was a derivative of debian? I have friends there, is all. |
| 15:38.13 | stew | justStormY: edit ~/.xsession |
| 15:38.13 | thingfish | sheesh |
| 15:38.21 | justStormY | stew: thx |
| 15:38.43 | sussudio | stew: troll |
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| 15:38.52 | stew | justStormY: if for instance you want an xterm to start, but xterm& right *before xfce starts |
| 15:39.09 | stew | sussudio: ? |
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| 15:39.30 | jelly | sussudio: whatever. just because s/he's in a channel doesn't mean s/he's running that thing. For all we know he might have a few installations lying around. |
| 15:39.50 | sussudio | yes it does |
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| 15:40.05 | thingfish | let's not waste our time trying to convince someone to be reasonable, |
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| 15:40.09 | jelly | sussudio: chill, dude. Your logic is flawed. |
| 15:40.23 | dusk | naw jelly |
| 15:40.23 | sussudio | nope |
| 15:40.26 | dusk | cuz by that logic |
| 15:40.29 | dusk | you're actually jelly |
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| 15:40.36 | pngwn | heh |
| 15:40.36 | dusk | and thats pretty cool |
| 15:40.36 | jelly | thingfish: oh. sorry. I know I can't be done on me. ;-) |
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| 15:40.50 | thingfish | hehe jelly I was referring to someone else. |
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| 15:42.55 | david04 | Can anyone give opinions about SPF and/or DomainKeys |
| 15:42.57 | david04 | ? |
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| 15:44.01 | stew | david04: SPF is easier to implement, domainkeys is more flexible |
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| 15:44.15 | Condector | good morning |
| 15:44.19 | Ungy | Is there any reason that I would lose internet connection on my box when I set up a second network card with a different IP subnet and route is there somethign I am missing or a tutorial someone knows about maybe? |
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| 15:44.31 | Condector | hey.... hehhee, i have problem with, kdm, gdm, and xdm |
| 15:44.47 | Condector | first, my nvidia module no load GLX extensions |
| 15:45.03 | jelly | Ungy: somehow the default route goes to the second card when it's activated? |
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| 15:45.19 | stew | Ungy: you aren't trying to create a second default route are you? |
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| 15:45.20 | ziupiu | Ungy, i think you overwrite default route |
| 15:45.21 | dhp_saturn_v4 | I have various SCSI cards (Qlogick, Symlbios ... ), what are the main 'linux land' utilities to configure those ? (please do not tellme about BIOS config) |
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| 15:45.27 | Condector | second, kdm, xdm and gdm not load a session for any kde or gnome or xfce4... |
| 15:45.29 | Dodger | Hi all, I've managed to really mess up the hard drive on my debian system. After spending all day yesterday trying to get it to boot again, I gave up and just repartitioned and reinstalled, and it STILL won't boot! I think I've done something to mess up my mbr, but although I've tried fixing it with grub, lilo and fdisk /mbr with win98 it still doesn't seem to be working |
| 15:45.35 | Ungy | ziupiu, ahh ok that could be it |
| 15:45.40 | jelly | Ungy: if you set it up via /etc/network/interfaces, DON'T put a gateway line there. |
| 15:45.45 | Condector | the screen blink once and kdm, gdm, xdm is reload.. |
| 15:45.49 | Ungy | jelly ahh thanks |
| 15:45.51 | bernouli | is it possible to burn 5 cds iso on 1 dvd? |
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| 15:45.58 | david04 | anyone has implemented SPF, DK, DKIM, or any other other? why (why not)? |
| 15:46.00 | thingfish | Dodger: you don't think the drive itself has maybe gone down? |
| 15:46.01 | bibe | hey, how come can Nexenta (Debian on top of a Solaris kernel) be released (I am just browsing the site)? Solaris kernel is released under CDDL, which is non-free and obviously uncompatible with GPL |
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| 15:46.35 | Dodger | thingfish: I don't think so, if I boot with a floppy or cd I can navigate it... it stopped working after I was playing around with gnu parted |
| 15:46.41 | thingfish | ah |
| 15:46.45 | valdyn_ | Dodger: no, there must be a differnt reason, installing debian will completely overwrite your mbr |
| 15:46.45 | Ungy | jelly what about broadcast? |
| 15:46.47 | stew | david04: i have implemented SPF on several domains becuase it is trivial, you just add a TXT record to the dns zone |
| 15:46.55 | Condector | please... |
| 15:46.56 | Condector | :) |
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| 15:47.22 | Dodger | hmmm... weird then... what else could it be? |
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| 15:47.32 | jelly | Ungy: keep everything else intact. The gateway line makes it create a default route, which you don't want to do. |
| 15:47.39 | abrotman | bibe: ask them ? |
| 15:47.45 | lepton | Condector: what if you log in on the console and type "startx" ? |
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| 15:47.54 | Dodger | might I have damaged the "start" of the drive somehow such that I'm able to read info off of it, but can no longer use it to boot? |
| 15:47.55 | Ungy | jelly ahh hopefully that is my problem thanks |
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| 15:48.10 | valdyn_ | Dodger: no, you cant damage your drive like that |
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| 15:48.33 | TripTrop | hello |
| 15:48.47 | Condector | lepton, in console, if i type 'startx' the X start normally... |
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| 15:48.49 | Ungy | When I do the auto line in my interfaces document can I seperate cards by a comma or just do another auto line? |
| 15:48.55 | Dodger | valdyn_: what should I try then? I just wiped the drive and reinstalled and am seeing the same problem (freezing after saying "GRUB loading, please wait...") |
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| 15:49.17 | Condector | the problem is when i use a gdm, xdm kdm... |
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| 15:49.33 | quest_ | i have installed eclipse. if i start ./eclipse from the console it start. but if i link it to kde desktop it doesn't work. (seem it can't find the path of the jre) what can i do? |
| 15:49.38 | bibe | abrotman : ok, I was just trying to understand if this incompatibility is obvious, as I think, or not |
| 15:49.44 | valdyn_ | Dodger: that message already means that your MBR is ok |
| 15:49.51 | lepton | Condector: what if you log in on the console as root, and then /etc/init.d/kdm start ? |
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| 15:50.19 | stew | quest_: create a script in /usr/local/bin that does cd /path/to/eclipse/install ; ./eclipse |
| 15:50.28 | Condector | lepton, wait... |
| 15:50.34 | stew | quest_: wait, did you install java via make-jpkg? |
| 15:50.37 | Dodger | valdyn_: ok... what could be the problem then? this is a freshly partitioned/formatted drive that I just installed debian on... it was rebooting after the install and stopped at that point... |
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| 15:50.45 | pabs3 | bibe: there have been threads on debian-devel about this. |
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| 15:50.54 | corfe | I've been told that you can install a particular version of a package by (for example) apt-get install animals=version, but I don't understand how to format my version. I'm particularly trying "apt-get install libc6=2.3.5-7" |
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| 15:51.17 | valdyn_ | Dodger: i dont know, i would try changing your drive to lba in your bios, if that is possible at all |
| 15:51.18 | corfe | it says version not found. |
| 15:51.18 | condector | lepton, testing... |
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| 15:51.22 | bibe | pabs3 : thank you for pointing me to the right direction, I'll go and read them |
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| 15:51.31 | ndee | can it be that google is down? |
| 15:51.33 | Dodger | valdyn_: hmm, ok will try that! |
| 15:51.35 | valdyn_ | Dodger: i dont know grub well enough to give you a straight answer though |
| 15:51.36 | stew | corfe: that is the correct format. what version of debian are you running? |
| 15:51.38 | fireba11 | corfe: you checked that that particular versions exists in debian with apt-cache ? |
| 15:51.45 | corfe | google's not down |
| 15:51.48 | corfe | I'm in sid |
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| 15:51.52 | Dodger | valdyn_: I could switch to lilo if you know that better |
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| 15:52.02 | valdyn_ | Dodger: i dont |
| 15:52.14 | fireba11 | Dodger: better stick tu grub .-) |
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| 15:52.17 | corfe | it's in /var/cache/apt/archives , if that's what you mean |
| 15:52.24 | valdyn_ | Dodger: i havent had such a problem for years... |
| 15:52.26 | condector | lepton nothing... |
| 15:53.05 | Dodger | fireball: ok |
| 15:53.05 | corfe | but I wouldn't think it should have to be there |
| 15:53.05 | ndee | I can't connect to google/gmail, although all other pages work. Weird. |
| 15:53.05 | Ungy | corfe if you have the package why not dpkg -i it? |
| 15:53.05 | fireba11 | ndee: google got soem problems today |
| 15:53.05 | jelly | bibe: hey, is this Nexenta in any way related to Alvaro Lopez's inquiries about Debian / opensolaris http://tinyurl.com/dffj7 , or is this a spearate effort? |
| 15:53.05 | lepton | condector: is there an error message? paste it into #flood |
| 15:53.06 | stew | corfe: if its already on your local machine why are you using apt-get instead of just dpkg? |
| 15:53.06 | condector | lepton kdm.log in /var/log show a list of prior of font render.. |
| 15:53.06 | licued2 | VNC Server -> VNC Broascast Server -> 4 VNC Clients watching the VNC Server via the VNC Broadcast server ... how could you create a scenario like this? |
| 15:53.08 | corfe | Ungy: I can do that and it works. I was just curious why it doesn't work with apt-get |
| 15:53.09 | quest_ | stew, no installed the java from sun website |
| 15:53.11 | condector | lepton no error message |
| 15:53.16 | Dodger | valdyn_: I was able to switch to LBA in my bios and it works! thanks so much... <sigh> wish I'd tried that before deleting my system :-( |
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| 15:53.25 | BroederA | what should I place in place of: <your-kernel-tree-path> |
| 15:53.29 | Ungy | corfe, maybe they removed it |
| 15:53.35 | valdyn_ | Dodger: nice , so i learned something about grub ) |
| 15:53.37 | stew | quest_: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 15:53.42 | jelly | bibe: I liked the guy's ideas, but he was flamed from both Debian and opensolaris sides. |
| 15:53.45 | corfe | fair enough |
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| 15:53.57 | Ungy | corfe, apt-get uses what ist finds from your sources not from your local machine |
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| 15:54.04 | corfe | Ungy: oh, ok |
| 15:54.06 | dhp_saturn_v4 | what tool to use to configure RAID arrays on SCSI cards ? |
| 15:54.12 | stew | quest_: if you installed it by hand, you might need to set the JAVA_HOME variable to the path you installed the jre to |
| 15:54.12 | corfe | Ungy: do they take out the old versions of the package relatively quickly? |
| 15:54.17 | Dodger | valdyn_: its really weird, because I haven't touched my bios in a LONG time... weird that it stopped working (I must have had lilo somehow telling it my drive was LBA before) |
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| 15:54.32 | condector | lepton the strange is... with my nvidia card, the GLX not loand.. but with vesa work... |
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| 15:54.40 | condector | if i use console to start my X |
| 15:54.56 | Ungy | corfe they can I am not sure of the exact process by which they remove things but i have seen things removed the day of replacement |
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| 15:55.01 | valdyn_ | Dodger: no, you used partman, partman used lba values for your partition table while your bios used a different "reference" |
| 15:55.04 | corfe | Ungy: ah, thanks |
| 15:55.07 | botsy | it's possible to install linux on wine ? |
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| 15:55.28 | valdyn_ | Dodger: in the end, your partitionining tool and your bios didnt agree on how the drive is structured |
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| 15:55.38 | pabs3 | botsy: wine is not an emulator, its jus tan implementation of the win32 api |
| 15:55.38 | stew | botsy: no, linux doens't run on win32 |
| 15:55.43 | abrotman | bibe: they're the ones who would know ... I'm sure there's some legal way to do what they've done |
| 15:55.46 | Dodger | valdyn_: ahh... |
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| 15:55.53 | valdyn_ | Dodger: leading to a partition table that grub interprets wrongly ( and grub at that point just uses the bios for that ) |
| 15:55.55 | botsy | ok ... |
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| 15:56.05 | Dodger | valdyn_: ahh... |
| 15:56.11 | botsy | and if i use qemu it's good or not? |
| 15:56.27 | jelly | bibe: there's #gnusol, maybe someone there knows. |
| 15:56.30 | condector | humm |
| 15:56.42 | byteshack | I have a list of files that I'm getting out of a grep -r, and I'd like to "rm -fr" all the folders where these files live, can someone help me with some bash magic? |
| 15:56.43 | condector | lepton the gdm is more specific |
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| 15:56.52 | resiak | stew: You can run Linux on Win32. cf. colinux |
| 15:56.57 | corfe | another question - a problem has started since 4 days ago in which some applications (all seem to be X apps, possibly only gtk apps) have crashed intermittently. Firefox does it particularly often, and if I run it in from an xterm I see a glibc error each time it happens, something about freeing an invalid pointer, although I believe sometimes it's different. Some of the packages upgraded that day included "libgtk2.0-0", "libc6", "libglib2.0-0". I'm running |
| 15:56.57 | corfe | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:57.06 | byteshack | issue is, the folder names have all kinds of funky characters that need to be escaped |
| 15:57.10 | resiak | corfe: Have you checked the BTS? |
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| 15:57.26 | corfe | resiak: what's the BTS? |
| 15:57.27 | corfe | resiak: backtrace? |
| 15:57.32 | resiak | !btssmite corfe |
| 15:57.33 | abrotman | !btssmite corfe |
| 15:57.35 | condector | he said: "Impossible start a session for you... i'm open a xterm session for you..." |
| 15:57.36 | byteshack | but tracking system |
| 15:57.42 | eruin_ | does anyone in here know how I could copy a directory recursively but leave out all dotfiles/dotdirs? |
| 15:57.42 | abrotman | !englishsmite resiak |
| 15:57.48 | quest_ | stew, seems it is not working. is there a way to se global variables (the java bin directory) for KDE ? |
| 15:57.49 | corfe | heheh thanks |
| 15:57.53 | abrotman | !britsmite resiak |
| 15:57.53 | Ungy | !lart abrotman |
| 15:57.57 | publunch | Hey, if I've got debian on several machines, what is the best way of keeping them all up-to-date? Running apt-get update works, but it requires downloading the same file several times (once for each computer). |
| 15:58.04 | resiak | publunch: apt-proxy ? |
| 15:58.07 | abrotman | Ungy: don't make me create a mysqlsmite :) |
| 15:58.18 | publunch | resiak: thanks. |
| 15:58.31 | fireba11 | haha |
| 15:58.32 | resiak | publunch: Can I have one please? |
| 15:58.37 | Ungy | abrotman, don;t make me use that silly postgres vacuum on you |
| 15:58.51 | abrotman | Ungy: ok .. we'll just wait for mysql to lose all your data :) |
| 15:58.56 | corfe | resiak: yeah I checked the bug pages for certain packages. I'll try searching through the whole database |
| 15:58.57 | fireba11 | publunch: also cron-apt might be useful for you |
| 15:59.07 | corfe | resiak: I really don't know which package might have caused the problem |
| 15:59.18 | publunch | resiak: one of my spare computers? I've got a 33 MHz 486 here. |
| 15:59.38 | publunch | resiak: You can have it if you come and collect it. |
| 15:59.44 | Ungy | abrotman, well I have 3 synced servers so I guess if I lose one I lose them all right ;-) |
| 16:00.06 | abrotman | Ungy: TBH .. wouldn't be surprised if they all died together :) |
| 16:00.12 | Ungy | abrotman, how is replication on postgres now anyways? |
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| 16:00.34 | abrotman | Ungy: mysql doesn't have replication .. it has master/slave .. postgres does have replication |
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| 16:01.17 | resiak | publunch: A pub lunch. |
| 16:01.25 | asg | resiak: plowman's |
| 16:01.25 | fireba11 | would recommend postgresql for bigger setups anyway ... |
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| 16:02.22 | Ungy | abrotman, what is multi-master replication? |
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| 16:02.30 | condector | lepton any ideia? |
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| 16:02.31 | abrotman | are you asking me ? |
| 16:02.32 | bizkit | hi i'm trying to create a jail for ssh using makejail and the example sshd file.. when it reaches the point of local tests, the test is to connect to the started server. it connects to the right one, and it asks for the password. i type the passwork and it hangs! any ideas? |
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| 16:02.50 | abrotman | Ungy: ? |
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| 16:03.11 | corfe | resiak: I don't see a good way to search bug reports for ALL packages for the error messages I'm getting, but I have checked the packages I suspect are the problem, without results |
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| 16:03.27 | Ungy | abrotman, of course I am asking you if it is not replication what is it exactly? |
| 16:03.40 | resiak | corfe: Oh. Oh well. |
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| 16:04.21 | stew | quest_: "set" will show you all the env vars |
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| 16:05.15 | corfe | resiak: anything else I can do? I was really hoping this would be something like "oh, yeah, everyone in sid's been seeing that. They're fixing it tomorrow" sort of thing. I've tried reverting to old versions of some of the packages, but some other ones (like gcc-3.4-base) aren't easy to revert, because so many packages depend on them, and I don't know how to get apt/dpkg to go through and find dependencies required to downgrade a package |
| 16:05.45 | corfe | resiak: and reverting to the older versions of the packages hasn't fixed the problem so far |
| 16:06.07 | resiak | corfe: This is the joy of Sid, I'm afraid. See if it happens with a fresh user... Run the apps from an xterm and see what they spew onto STDERR as they die. |
| 16:06.20 | stew | corfe: if everyone was seeing it and/or there was a fix available, it would be in the bts /msg dpkg bts |
| 16:06.33 | abrotman | Ungy: how does mysql "replication" work ? |
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| 16:06.55 | Ungy | abrotman now they have multiple masters |
| 16:07.03 | Ungy | they can have multiple masters |
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| 16:07.34 | abrotman | Ungy: that's not what i asked |
| 16:07.40 | Ungy | abrotman, much better then the single master slave which still left you with one failure point |
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| 16:08.09 | corfe | resiak, stew: Alright, I'll try it out. By the way, any way to get dpkg/apt to handle dependencies for a downgrade? Also, any way to tell apt to go through and reinstall all the packages that are currently installed, just to make sure it wasn't a fluke during that last upgrade? |
| 16:08.16 | abrotman | Ungy: how does mysql "replication" work ? |
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| 16:08.26 | Einstein` | hi |
| 16:08.39 | resiak | !tell corfe -about downgrade |
| 16:08.41 | Einstein` | there is a italian channel? |
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| 16:08.43 | resiak | !it |
| 16:08.43 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 16:08.52 | Einstein` | tnx bot :)) |
| 16:09.00 | Ungy | abrotman, like you said a master slave relationship much like most postgres replication schemas |
| 16:09.10 | abrotman | Ungy: uhm .. no |
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| 16:09.36 | secher | is rot13 no longer in existance? |
| 16:09.50 | stew | !rot13 rot13 still exists |
| 16:09.51 | dpkg | ebg13 fgvyy rkvfgf |
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| 16:10.08 | Einstein` | thanks resiak :)))) |
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| 16:10.27 | asg | !stew++ |
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| 16:10.42 | corfe | resiak: thanks so much for your help. And the "--reinstall all packages"? Does that exist without messing with package list commands and sed? |
| 16:10.51 | secher | stew: I can't find it on packages.debian.org, and I can't find it using apt-cache. what package is it in? |
| 16:11.12 | asg | secher: bsdgames |
| 16:11.20 | Einstein` | see you later, bye bye :)) |
| 16:11.27 | secher | asg: Thanks much. |
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| 16:12.02 | Dodger | I tried to make a backup of a partition by using "cat /dev/hda3 > backup.img"... I've blown away my data, and just tried to restore it ("cat backup.img > /dev/hda1") and it didn't work :-) is there any way I can get that data back, or am I out of luck? |
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| 16:12.42 | quest_ | stew, the problem is not the shell (from the shell it works fine since the path is set up correctly).. i am trying to make a link on the kde desktop, to the file i run(eclipse) , but then it doesn't work |
| 16:12.43 | darkskiez | how can I provoke the kernel to scan for a new sata drive if i've just plugged one a drive in (hotswap bay - promise sata controller) |
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| 16:12.59 | stew | Dodger: "mount -o loop /backup.img /mnt" will let you get at the files in the backup.img |
| 16:13.14 | Dodger | stew: cool! thanks so much stew!!! |
| 16:13.16 | stew | quest_: did you try making a script like i suggested previously? |
| 16:13.30 | quest_ | stew, no, because i can't do scripts |
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| 16:14.27 | stew | quest_: echo "#!/bin/sh\ncd path/to/eclipse && ./eclipse" >> /usr/local/bin/eclipse ; chmod +x /usr/local/bin/eclipse |
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| 16:14.51 | stew | uhh >> should be > |
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| 16:14.58 | Ungy | abrotman I still can't seem to find this repication your talking about |
| 16:15.00 | botsy | it's possible to remove unless packet ? |
| 16:15.11 | Jaek_ | how does one install bundles |
| 16:15.12 | Jaek_ | ? |
| 16:15.18 | asg | wtf are bundles? |
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| 16:15.30 | stew | !wikifaq Jaek_ PackageManagement |
| 16:15.40 | dpkg | Jaek_: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/PackageManagement or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 16:15.41 | stew | botsy: what do you mean? |
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| 16:16.05 | skiflyer | I'm having an awful time trying to get my exim4 installation to use a smarthost for delivery... is there anyone here that might be able to help? |
| 16:16.32 | PerfDave | skiflyer: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config ? |
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| 16:16.44 | tarzeau | skiflyer: use nullmailer? |
| 16:16.46 | botsy | stew, i have install many package ... but i not sur when i remove a package it remove all ... |
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| 16:16.55 | skiflyer | PerfDave: Did it, and that's where I am now with it not working |
| 16:17.04 | botsy | it's possible to remove package whose aren't use ....? |
| 16:17.07 | skiflyer | tarzeau: Don't know anything about it, what's the story? |
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| 16:17.09 | Zugschlus | skiflyer: what is the problem |
| 16:17.15 | rightc0ast | k guys i have a question...for shits and giggles i scanned my moms machine with nmap. well she has windows xp, but is running an amanda server??? along with a bunch of other open ports |
| 16:17.17 | PerfDave | skiflyer: In what way is it "not working"? Can you provide more information? |
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| 16:17.20 | tarzeau | skiflyer: it will only deliver mail, not recieve any. no configuration needed |
| 16:17.21 | justStormY | anybody knows a good network configuration script? |
| 16:17.26 | rightc0ast | well im not an admin, but isnt amanda for tape backups??? |
| 16:17.34 | PerfDave | I've never gotten nullmailer to work |
| 16:17.34 | Jaek_ | how can i tell if im running gnome or kde? |
| 16:17.44 | Ungy | rightc0ast, amanda is an archive utility yes |
| 16:17.44 | tarzeau | Jaek_: make a screenshot and post the url to it here |
| 16:17.48 | stew | botsy: /msg dpkg deborphan ; /msg dpkg debfoster ; or if you use aptitude instead of apt-get it will do this for you automatically |
| 16:17.50 | botsy | stew, i know with apt it's possible to remove it but i don't find the url of the site |
| 16:17.51 | corfe | well I've got to run. Thanks again resiak |
| 16:17.52 | Ronin | Jaek_: a k is kde, a foot would be gnome |
| 16:17.55 | PerfDave | rightc0ast: nmap is telling you that something is listening on the port associated with AMANDA, not that AMANDA itself is running. |
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| 16:18.01 | stew | botsy: url of what site? |
| 16:18.02 | skiflyer | PerfDave: Zugschlus : I can post logs... but I don't know where to put them? |
| 16:18.08 | Zugschlus | Jaek_: does your screen show a K and a cogwheel on the lower left corner? |
| 16:18.09 | PerfDave | skiflyer: /msg dpkg paster |
| 16:18.22 | Jaek_ | neither |
| 16:18.29 | rightc0ast | Ungy, would someone be backing up a mass network of bots possibly?? and would she have cygwin installed to run that wouldnt she?? |
| 16:18.29 | Jaek_ | i have a footprint on the upper top |
| 16:18.34 | Ronin | gnome |
| 16:18.42 | PerfDave | Jaek_: Then you're running Gnome. Bad luck! |
| 16:18.54 | rightc0ast | PerfDave, ahh, gracias |
| 16:19.00 | CAiRO | is there a live rescue cd with ataraid support and cryptoloop? |
| 16:19.02 | botsy | thank stew |
| 16:19.05 | Jaek_ | thanks |
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| 16:20.02 | Ungy | rightc0ast, you want to know about Amanda you can check amanda.org |
| 16:20.43 | abrotman | Ungy: no! |
| 16:20.53 | rightc0ast | Ungy, nah, i was just wondering if her PC is comprimised, im not really the most knowledgable on that stuff |
| 16:21.00 | rightc0ast | i assume it is |
| 16:21.02 | skiflyer | PerfDave, Zugschlus : Ok I posted the mail I sent tothe list ... is this the link I need to pass on? http://channels.debian.net/paste/1146 |
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| 16:21.04 | darkskiez | is there like a scsiadd for sata? |
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| 16:21.19 | stew | rightc0ast: we aren't the most knowlegable about windows xp security |
| 16:21.20 | justStormY | anbodys knows a good network configuratiol tool/script? |
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| 16:21.42 | rightc0ast | ive been in here with debian questions of my own, and knew there are a few knowledgale tyes here that would know |
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| 16:21.45 | asg | justStormY: etherconf |
| 16:21.46 | stew | justStormY: /msg dpkg man interfaces ; /msg dpkg etherconf |
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| 16:22.05 | justStormY | thx guys |
| 16:22.06 | justStormY | :) |
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| 16:23.30 | quest_ | stew, i didi like you say, but i think that this let me run eclipse from wherever i want, but just FROM CONSOLE. while i want to lunch it from KDE icon on desktop which is a link to the eclipse executable |
| 16:23.52 | stew | quest_: link the icon with the script, not the executable |
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| 16:24.23 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Have you tried googling for that error message? |
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| 16:24.47 | quest_ | stew, i did it, but still doesn't work |
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| 16:25.03 | stew | quest_: but the script works from the command line? |
| 16:25.41 | skiflyer | PerfDave: A little, but not having much luck, it seems to be a pretty common error message for exim4 after something can't be delivered... so it doesn't say much about the why |
| 16:25.50 | quest_ | stew, yes, from the command line it works, but it also worked without the script, since the CONSOLE path is set up correctly |
| 16:26.27 | stew | quest_: you then need to figure out what is in your env on the command line that is making it work and put that into the script |
| 16:26.42 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Check the Exim documentation? Check the logs on the smarthost? |
| 16:26.50 | stew | quest_: for instance, do you need to put, "export JAVA_HOME=/usr/local/jdk" or whatever to get it working? |
| 16:27.14 | skiflyer | PerfDave: Yeah I've been digging through documents for weeks now, haven't had much luck with the logs on the smarthost yet, I'll give that a deeper look |
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| 16:27.45 | PerfDave | skiflyer: You said something about needing to "authenticate" with the smarthost, is that SMTP AUTH? If so, did you read /usr/share/doc/exim/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 16:27.48 | PerfDave | Oops |
| 16:27.54 | PerfDave | skiflyer: You said something about needing to "authenticate" with the smarthost, is that SMTP AUTH? If so, did you read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.SMTP-AUTH |
| 16:28.04 | skiflyer | PerfDave: yep |
| 16:28.25 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Can you relay mail through that smarthost directly using an application like Thunderbird? |
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| 16:28.36 | skiflyer | I read it, it was unclear, I'm not sure if that's what I need or not, but I set it up |
| 16:28.38 | skiflyer | and yes |
| 16:28.44 | skiflyer | Thunderbird works great |
| 16:28.44 | justStormY | grml damn - etherconf is installed but how can i use it....? |
| 16:29.11 | loca|host | i've installed on my debian sarge sendmail with apt-get |
| 16:29.13 | PerfDave | skiflyer: What do you mean, "it was unclear"? Either your smarthost requires authentication or it doesn't. Does it require authentication when you use it from Thunderbird? |
| 16:29.24 | loca|host | i dont have the virtusertable file in /etc/mail |
| 16:29.29 | skiflyer | Perfdave: It requires authentication, but I have no idea what type |
| 16:29.45 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Well, what did you set up in Thunderbird? |
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| 16:30.22 | skiflyer | PerfDave: SSL |
| 16:30.24 | quest_ | stew, can i link a directory to another? |
| 16:30.42 | stew | quest_: yes, ln -s /fromdirectory /todirectory |
| 16:30.46 | secher | Dammit! I just ran the following commands: dpkg --get-selections | grep install | grep -v deinstall | cut -f1 > reinstall.txt >>>> apt-get install --reinstall `cat reinstall.txt there were some predepend conflicts which I edited out, e.g. gcc, perl, ndiswrapper, debconf and confbase. I'm still getting "Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file" anyone know why? |
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| 16:30.57 | PerfDave | skiflyer: SSL isn't authentication, but have you told exim to use SSL? |
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| 16:31.21 | stew | secher: predepend conflict with e2fsprogs? |
| 16:31.22 | skiflyer | PerfDave: no, haven't seen anyway to |
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| 16:31.34 | justStormY | etherconf is installed but how can i use it. |
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| 16:32.15 | secher | stew: Hrm.. I don't think so.. I"m not sure, I should have saved the ones I removed, but I'm pretty sure not. Does that have something to do with the Fontconfig? |
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| 16:32.48 | secher | stew: I don't see how it could, but I may be wrong,. |
| 16:33.03 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Well, I'd go and find that out in the Exim documentation :) |
| 16:33.44 | skiflyer | PerfDave: I'm trying, constantly trying... about once a week I come here though and hope to find someone who knows how to do it so I might actually get it done |
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| 16:33.47 | stew | secher: it has nothing to do with fonts, its just that pretty much everyone who gets a predepends loop is trying to upgrade e2fsprogs from older than stable to testing which doesn't work |
| 16:34.16 | PerfDave | skiflyer: Well, now you know that setting up TLS/SSL on the connection from exim to your smarthost is necessary, so you're getting somewhere. |
| 16:34.31 | stew | secher: have you tried dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig? |
| 16:34.37 | skiflyer | PerfDave: yep, thanks for that... maybe next week I'll have enough to ask the question well ;) |
| 16:34.50 | simonvallore | How do i chmod Every thing in a directory |
| 16:34.55 | secher | stew: Oh. I''m not trying to upgrade, I"m strictly unstable. I had a disk error a few days ago I'm trying to recover from. |
| 16:35.04 | asg | simonvallore: man chmod |
| 16:35.05 | simonvallore | How do i chmod Every thing in a directory and its sub directories |
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| 16:35.12 | simonvallore | ive read it |
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| 16:35.47 | asg | simonvallore: you didn't read the bit about '-recursive' |
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| 16:36.18 | stew | simonvallore: chmod mode * |
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| 16:36.26 | simonvallore | yeah i dont wanna chmod backwords |
| 16:36.36 | stew | what are backwords? |
| 16:36.42 | justStormY | can anybody tell me how to use etherconf? |
| 16:36.58 | asg | stew: some boardgame |
| 16:37.05 | mike_sol | stew: backwords are things like "sdrowkcab" and the like |
| 16:37.07 | simonvallore | isnt there a wild car *.* |
| 16:37.22 | stew | simonvallore: just * |
| 16:37.31 | petemc | justStormY: run it, answer the questions it asks you, look in /usr/share/doc/etherconf |
| 16:38.04 | stew | simonvallore: except * doesn't include files that start with a ., so ".* *" would include those as well |
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| 16:38.06 | justStormY | petmc - how i run it -" etherconf" - won't work |
| 16:38.27 | black_Nightmare | is it simple as just downloading the usual latest iso or do you have to use specialized version for a dual-cpu system? |
| 16:38.49 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: Use the standard ISO, install a -smp kernel-image package. |
| 16:38.53 | thc | justStormY: how about do something totally insane, like read the man page? |
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| 16:39.06 | stew | thc: there isnt' a manpage |
| 16:39.10 | thc | no? |
| 16:39.10 | justStormY | right :) |
| 16:39.14 | thc | what about /usr/share/doc |
| 16:39.19 | stew | thc: no, and no |
| 16:39.27 | stew | thc: apt-file list etherconf |
| 16:39.42 | black_Nightmare | perfdave...ah ok, ty anyhow. was wondering about linux on this abit dualie board when I receive it. I really never liked 2K for the reason of their absurb high prices |
| 16:39.51 | black_Nightmare | and I do not want to touch xp...period :)) |
| 16:39.56 | thc | apt-file: command not found |
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| 16:39.57 | thc | haha |
| 16:39.59 | secher | stew: ran it, and while it walked me through the configuration process, it still gives me the Fontconfig error: Cannot load default config file |
| 16:40.04 | thc | i don't even have apt-file installed |
| 16:40.08 | asg | !installit |
| 16:40.08 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 16:40.37 | justStormY | anybody can now tell me how to run etherconf?^^ |
| 16:40.37 | thingfish | mmm baguettes... |
| 16:40.40 | asg | at least it's better than a Chik-Fil-A biscuitt |
| 16:41.00 | thingfish | is it a real baguette? as in french bread, all crusty? |
| 16:41.03 | thc | dude, don't be talkin shit about chik-fil-a |
| 16:41.04 | asg | justStormY: it's a curses app. You just run it |
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| 16:41.17 | asg | thc: crap, they can't make a biscuit to save their lives. |
| 16:41.21 | thc | thingfish: tesco baguettes are the bomb, they bake them every morning |
| 16:41.27 | black_Nightmare | perfdave..so a dualie board.. the linux cd would treat it as a single processor (ignoring the second one) for during installion .. then I manually do that kernel image thing to enable the second processor? |
| 16:41.27 | thc | asg: but their chicken is good! |
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| 16:41.33 | black_Nightmare | or am I reading something wrong here |
| 16:41.39 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: The installer may do it for you, but basically yes. |
| 16:41.41 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: yes .. that's correct |
| 16:41.45 | black_Nightmare | ty |
| 16:41.46 | justStormY | asg: how? - only typing "etherconf" won't work... |
| 16:41.48 | thingfish | good biscuits are hard to make. most people want to overwork the dough. |
| 16:41.55 | asg | thc: maybe where you are, not here. They did once give me an $800 dollar scholarship in Philosophy though. |
| 16:42.04 | asg | justStormY: in what way does it 'not work'? |
| 16:42.11 | black_Nightmare | any of you know about the abit BH6/BP6 boards? :-) |
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| 16:42.25 | justStormY | asg: command not found.. |
| 16:42.28 | thc | justStormY: are you root? look in /usr/bin and /usr/sbin for commands to start it |
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| 16:42.37 | asg | justStormY: as root? |
| 16:42.39 | rbochan | is there a FAQ for debian+gimp+fonts that anyone knows of? |
| 16:42.40 | black_Nightmare | thats what I'll be eventually receiving in a few days from someone heh (there don't want system anymore but don't feel like trashing it so going send board/cpu/ram to me) |
| 16:42.48 | justStormY | asg: jepp |
| 16:42.50 | black_Nightmare | going be fun with a dualie linux system :)) |
| 16:42.51 | stew | asg: it installs no binary, just a usr/share/configlets/etherconf/main.{py,glade} |
| 16:42.59 | justStormY | asg: but apt says that it is installed |
| 16:43.02 | asg | stew: on sarge? or is this etch? |
| 16:43.12 | stew | asg: that's what i see on etch |
| 16:43.22 | asg | stew: try dpkg-reconfigure -plow etherconf |
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| 16:43.56 | stew | asg: no thanks, mine's fine :) |
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| 16:44.11 | asg | stew: mine too :) |
| 16:44.15 | asg | justStormY: dpkg-reconfigure -plow etherconf |
| 16:44.17 | J_P | hey all, here debian install stop in "Loading Module Sd_scsi mode for SCSI Support", my ha is sata, what is problem ? have anyone paramater for me passa in boot login ? |
| 16:44.22 | bonez39 | is OO 2 out yet with a .deb? |
| 16:44.24 | justStormY | asg: jepp got it |
| 16:44.25 | justStormY | thx |
| 16:44.27 | black_Nightmare | anyway perfdave/abrotman one debian video question... would it be ok to use 'ati 3D rage pro agp' and 'ati 3D rage pro pci' cards on the same motherboard or that'll present the same problem that appears on windows os too? |
| 16:44.34 | black_Nightmare | I mean..its like identical chipsets |
| 16:44.55 | stew | bonez39: yes, its in unstable |
| 16:44.56 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: afaik .. should be ok .. you would have to specify BusIDs i tihnk .. |
| 16:45.00 | rbochan | I'm unable to get anti-aliased fonts in the gimp |
| 16:45.04 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: I have no idea what problem you had on Windows. I don't see why it'd cause a problem, unless you want 3D accelleration and ATI's drivers are shit. |
| 16:45.25 | abrotman | PerfDave: those cards are too old for any real 3d action .. |
| 16:45.30 | bonez39 | stew, how unstable? I can't have it hose my gnucash installation, but I assume that risk installing anything unstable, correct? |
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| 16:45.45 | PerfDave | abrotman: They've got "3D" in the name! :) |
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| 16:45.59 | asg | PerfDave: they also came with glasses |
| 16:46.09 | secher | can someone do a locate fonts.conf for me and let me know if it's anywhere other than /var/lib/defoma or /var/lib/dpkg? |
| 16:46.10 | abrotman | PerfDave: think .. 4MB AGP server cards :) |
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| 16:46.18 | black_Nightmare | abrot...hm ok, was wondering because I recall the one time a few days I tried both cards together and windows was throwing bsod in strange places for no reasons (the bsod always said it was VXD) |
| 16:46.30 | stew | bonez39: what version of debian are you running? |
| 16:46.40 | thc | secher: /etc/fonts/fonts.conf |
| 16:46.44 | asg | secher: better yet, install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search fonts.conf |
| 16:47.22 | PerfDave | secher: Or check for fonts.conf on http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 16:48.01 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: it's supposed to work .. |
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| 16:48.38 | Mitja | I installed debian, but X Server won't run. I have a log file. Can anyone help me please? |
| 16:48.49 | PerfDave | Mitja: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
| 16:48.50 | black_Nightmare | yeah ty anyhow |
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| 16:49.08 | black_Nightmare | inserted both cards into motherboard now..going have try livecd again later (its another pc not this one lol) |
| 16:49.26 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: LiveCD? Which version of Debian are you using? |
| 16:49.38 | abrotman | debian doesn't have a live CD |
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| 16:50.30 | guitoune | is it possible to manage a debian instalaltion with RAID5 on qemu (with kqemu support) ? |
| 16:50.33 | black_Nightmare | I should have just said 'debian-based' next time at first lol |
| 16:50.39 | black_Nightmare | its based on debian anyhow ;-) |
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| 16:50.47 | PerfDave | !debian-based |
| 16:50.47 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 16:51.05 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: Debian-based distros aren't supported here. Please ask your questions on the relevant channel. |
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| 16:51.24 | black_Nightmare | well perf..I already got my answer re dual-cpu and video cards didn't I? ;-) |
| 16:51.40 | black_Nightmare | the actual distro I'm using only has a quiet forum and no irc channel...figures |
| 16:51.46 | xfan | there are much debian-based live CD's |
| 16:51.54 | stew | black_Nightmare: try a mailinglist |
| 16:51.56 | black_Nightmare | they released early november thou so they're not that old |
| 16:52.05 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: No, you got a Debian answer. It may well not work for the distro you're using, most of which (a) use different graphics setups and (b) use different kernel packages. |
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| 16:52.15 | black_Nightmare | yeah I know what you mean |
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| 16:52.31 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: Failure of your distro to support itself does not make it #debian's job. Now kindly bugger off. |
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| 16:54.26 | r3tex | what script is saying on startup: skipping unavailable/loaded module $Module ? |
| 16:54.46 | nvz | xfan: thats because debian is easy to setup quickly with over 14,000 packages in sarge. Including the 'boot-cd' package which takes your running debian installation and puts it onto a live-cd |
| 16:55.23 | tarzeau | there's also a live cd based on debian gnu/kfreebsd |
| 16:55.29 | tarzeau | more than one, even |
| 16:55.36 | nvz | heh |
| 16:56.09 | nvz | same concept applies |
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| 16:56.23 | nvz | you can install debian and configure it any way you like and run boot-cd on it |
| 16:57.10 | black_Nightmare | makes me starting to think there are two different meanings of 'debian-based' .. first being borrowing from it and second being actually based on it. ughh dunno if I'm thinkign clearly or I'm just wrong heh |
| 16:57.30 | nvz | I think its time to wake up.. I dont know what the fuck to do, but I need to wake up :P |
| 16:57.35 | black_Nightmare | nvz hehe |
| 16:57.56 | EdibleText | nvz, eat lunch ;) |
| 16:57.58 | tarzeau | it's funny to grep for image- in http://popcon.debian.org/unknown/by_inst |
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| 16:58.07 | nvz | not a half bad idea there |
| 16:58.12 | cadetmar | google down? |
| 16:58.17 | abrotman | no |
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| 16:58.21 | nvz | I havent eaten since lunchtime yesturday |
| 16:58.26 | abrotman | eat! |
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| 16:58.39 | nvz | but I ordered a large pizza for $9 and ate it all :P |
| 16:58.41 | skiflyer | PerfDave: Looks like the SSL was a red herring, Exim4 is supposed to do it automagically |
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| 16:59.03 | thingfish | nvz, you're going to turn into a pizza. |
| 16:59.27 | nvz | heh |
| 16:59.34 | nvz | I |
| 16:59.45 | nvz | ve never seen a 200lb pizza before |
| 16:59.56 | abrotman | you're still trying though eh ? :) |
| 17:00.01 | thingfish | hehe |
| 17:00.04 | nvz | I was 183 before I ate that pizza last night |
| 17:00.13 | thingfish | damn |
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| 17:00.25 | thingfish | must have had a *lot* of cheese on it. |
| 17:00.26 | abrotman | nvz: maybe you should go potty ? |
| 17:00.31 | nvz | heh |
| 17:00.32 | thingfish | hehe abrotman |
| 17:00.42 | afabian | Does sarge's freetype have the apple bytecode interpreter enabled by default? |
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| 17:00.48 | abrotman | there's a place near my apt. .. they serve giant pizzas .. |
| 17:01.09 | nvz | I need to wash clothes.. esp socks |
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| 17:01.29 | abrotman | the single slices .. are probably roughly .. 2x a normal slice |
| 17:01.38 | abrotman | !sock nvz |
| 17:01.46 | nvz | I got like maybe what 7 pairs or so of jeans, 4 or so sweatshirts I wear a lot. and probably 500 socks, and somehow its still not enough |
| 17:01.57 | cahoot | blogging in real time? |
| 17:02.07 | thc | haha |
| 17:02.23 | thc | real-time blogging |
| 17:02.33 | ke6isf | nvz: I'd hate to be the one sorting your socks. =O.o= |
| 17:02.38 | abrotman | nvz: what exactly do you do with your socks ? |
| 17:02.48 | thc | abrotman: as if you have to ask |
| 17:02.52 | nvz | abrotman: leave em all over the floor |
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| 17:02.56 | thc | everyone uses socks as wanks rags |
| 17:03.01 | thc | that's what they are made for |
| 17:03.02 | nvz | heh |
| 17:03.08 | jbroome | that and my cat |
| 17:03.08 | thingfish | hehe I only did that once, in the navy. |
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| 17:03.21 | thingfish | it was a desperate situation. |
| 17:03.21 | abrotman | jbroome: you use your cat as a wank rag ? |
| 17:03.23 | ke6isf | thingfish: Thank you for sharing. |
| 17:03.27 | thingfish | :) |
| 17:03.38 | stew | wow |
| 17:03.43 | EdibleText | kitten bukakke |
| 17:03.50 | abrotman | stew: see what happens .. you step away .. and the channel goes to pot |
| 17:03.55 | nvz | if there were a store to buy socks closer I would just throw em all away and buy new ones |
| 17:03.56 | thingfish | hehe |
| 17:04.04 | nvz | I need some shoes too, so maybe I need to get to the mall |
| 17:04.09 | stew | apt-get install tissues |
| 17:04.17 | ke6isf | Heh, reminds me, I need to get new shoes. |
| 17:04.20 | thc | i usually buy my socks on ebay, you can find some really good deals on used socks, if you are patient |
| 17:04.27 | nvz | I got a new pair of steel toed boots, and non-slip workshoes, but my two pairs of sneakers are busted. |
| 17:04.30 | thingfish | ! |
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| 17:04.43 | ke6isf | stew: And thanks to your little blurb and the update/upgrade this morning, I almost said "install" new shoes. =^^= |
| 17:04.47 | stew | thc: you get your wank rags on ebay? you use used wank rags? |
| 17:04.51 | EdibleText | thc, i think thats a specialty market.. like used undies |
| 17:05.01 | thc | stew: yeah man, that way i don't have to break them in |
| 17:05.42 | mike_sol | EdibleText, and those are from vending machines, not ebay |
| 17:05.54 | nvz | maybe I should pick that guitar up over there I havent touched in like a month |
| 17:05.55 | black_Nightmare | ugh tried agp+pci video cards altogether and was wondering why monitor wasn't displaying anything at all then just realized recent experience and plugged monitor into pci card instead. can debian like tell itself which card to use by default right? (bios doesn't have any option btw) |
| 17:05.56 | abrotman | stew: apparently lots of people sell used children's clothes on ebay |
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| 17:05.57 | mike_sol | (and you know it's monday in #debian when) |
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| 17:06.04 | EdibleText | mike_sol, ah.. /me lives in a shack in the woods |
| 17:06.10 | mike_sol | black_Nightmare, you set that in the bios |
| 17:06.11 | lordnazgu | i have a laptop and it gets really annoying to have to su every time i want to turn it off. is there any way, other than sudo that i can do it? |
| 17:06.14 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: you're NOT using debian |
| 17:06.19 | thc | people use children's clothes as wank rags?? wtf. |
| 17:06.21 | Gandalf | someone here who has some knowledge of ipac-ng for measure traffic per port and per ipaddress? |
| 17:06.23 | nvz | I need to have mine shipped up here if my uncle or someone didnt sell it already :P |
| 17:06.24 | mike_sol | look for a display order option (PCI then AGP or vice versa), black_Nightmare |
| 17:06.26 | black_Nightmare | mike..there's no option in bios so :-/ |
| 17:06.34 | abrotman | lordnazgu: shutdown.allow .. or if you use GDM .. set those options for GDM |
| 17:06.38 | black_Nightmare | I've already checked the manual |
| 17:06.40 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: YOU'RE NOT USING DEBIAN! |
| 17:06.44 | mike_sol | black_Nightmare, what kind of ginked bios |
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| 17:06.47 | lordnazgu | thx abrpoman |
| 17:06.51 | abrotman | thc: ^^ |
| 17:06.59 | PerfDave | :ops black_Nightmare is not a Debian user, but thinks he should be here because his distro's IRC channel is quiet |
| 17:07.01 | black_Nightmare | mike..old Award (its 440EX chipset too heh) |
| 17:07.03 | ke6isf | !tell Gandalf -about ask |
| 17:07.09 | mike_sol | nast |
| 17:07.14 | PerfDave | !ops black_Nightmare is not a Debian user, but thinks he should be here because his distro's IRC channel is quiet |
| 17:07.20 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: black_Nightmare is not a Debian user, but thinks he should be here because his distro's IRC channel is quiet |
| 17:07.24 | nvz | damn. picked up the phone and my aunt is on there o_O |
| 17:07.24 | sylvain_ | broke gnome. :( "no screens available". all I did was try to reconfigure it to activate the 768x1200 resolution or so. |
| 17:07.25 | PerfDave | abrotman: I get this feeling we're not in -ot any more ;) |
| 17:07.30 | nvz | you're not the pizza place :P |
| 17:07.30 | abrotman | hehe |
| 17:07.33 | mike_sol | what distro is he using? i wish to insult it and its users |
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| 17:07.45 | black_Nightmare | perf...you saying that a distro that copies debian and changes the default packages isn't even debian anymore? |
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| 17:07.48 | PerfDave | mike_sol: He wouldn't say, but apparently it's less than a month old. |
| 17:07.50 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: Yes |
| 17:07.53 | ke6isf | !debian based |
| 17:07.54 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Xebian, Ubuntu, Mepis, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. We're supporting Debian, let your distro's support network support it. Ask me about "d-i". |
| 17:07.55 | thingfish | was sussudio ever an op? I could've sworn s/he was. |
| 17:07.59 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: we told you that .. a long time ago |
| 17:08.01 | abrotman | thingfish: yes |
| 17:08.02 | Mitja | X Server log reports "no devices detected", Fatal Server Error: No screens found. How can I fix this? |
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| 17:08.13 | black_Nightmare | perfdave..so when will debian themself have a single-cd version? :-) |
| 17:08.16 | mike_sol | black_Nightmare, what distro is this? we can't ruddy insult it without knowing what it is |
| 17:08.17 | stew | !noscreensfound |
| 17:08.17 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 17:08.18 | thingfish | abrotman: ok good to know I'm not totally losing it. |
| 17:08.23 | PerfDave | black_Nightmare: Debian have a single CD version already. |
| 17:08.23 | abrotman | !d-i black_Nightmare |
| 17:08.24 | dpkg | black_Nightmare, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 17:08.27 | ke6isf | black_Nightmare: Yes. It's called "netinstall". |
| 17:08.40 | black_Nightmare | ke6isf..does that include a office suite etc? |
| 17:08.40 | abrotman | thingfish: but afaik .. a long time ago |
| 17:08.42 | black_Nightmare | :p |
| 17:08.50 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: do you have broadband ? |
| 17:09.00 | ke6isf | black_Nightmare: The image is 100MB, and - as the name implies - you install EVERYTHING off of the 'net. |
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| 17:09.12 | mike_sol | abrotman, if he says no to that, at least we can laugh at slow net speeds |
| 17:09.20 | thc | the business card sized iso is even smaller. |
| 17:09.21 | abrotman | well .. you don't have to do everything .. you can get a baseinstall with netinst |
| 17:09.36 | abrotman | mike_sol: no .. you point him to a CD vendor |
| 17:09.38 | ke6isf | thc: Never could quite get the BC ISO to work for some reason.... |
| 17:09.52 | thc | ke6isf: some cdroms/dvdroms won't read a cd that size |
| 17:10.01 | ke6isf | thc: Indeed. |
| 17:10.03 | mike_sol | i still remember the only copy of debian i ever bought... a "freshly roasted hamm" they called it |
| 17:10.06 | *** mode/#debian [+l 820] by debhelper |
| 17:10.17 | PerfDave | It makes life easier. |
| 17:10.29 | black_Nightmare | abrot..where the pc is going to be located after finishing testing, it wouldn't have any connectives so it'll need a cd that has home applications preinstalled |
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| 17:10.38 | prock | can anyone suggest a nice xmms alternative? |
| 17:10.41 | Gandalf | anyone here who uses ipac-ng? |
| 17:10.49 | jbroome | prock: i like beep-media-player |
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| 17:10.52 | mike_sol | prock, amarok is beautiful if you're a kde user |
| 17:10.53 | nite613 | !anyone |
| 17:10.53 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 17:10.57 | ke6isf | !tell Gandalf -about ask |
| 17:11.01 | PerfDave | prock: xmms! |
| 17:11.01 | stew | prock: cplay is a nice console based player, lots of people seem to like quod libet |
| 17:11.11 | resiak | This reminds me ... should try ql |
| 17:11.14 | prock | !dontbeajerk |
| 17:11.27 | prock | oh I guess nobody's put that one in yet |
| 17:11.28 | ke6isf | prock: Then don't poll. |
| 17:11.33 | doleyb | prock: mplayer |
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| 17:11.49 | prock | ke6isf, nite613 : I got 3 happy responses so far :) |
| 17:12.07 | mike_sol | prock, out of curiosity, why not xmms? if you have a specific problem with it, we will be better able to suggest alternatives |
| 17:12.07 | prock | mike_sol stew doleyb thanks :) |
| 17:12.21 | resiak | prock: cat > /dev/dsp |
| 17:12.24 | abrotman | black_Nightmare: then EITHER go to the channel for your distro .. or buy debian CDs .. or download them all before you go |
| 17:12.36 | PerfDave | Or download Debian DVDs! Much smaller! :) |
| 17:12.40 | doleyb | mike_sol: i have a problem with xmms, it crashes & hangs very predictably on certain input sounds |
| 17:12.41 | ke6isf | prock: Just making a point. Ask dpkg about polls. People tend to get a little upset at those. That said, rhythmbox. |
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| 17:13.04 | absenth | In a moment of non-briliance (I have a lot of these) I installed the nvidia-glx package before upgrading my kernel to the k7 arch. now X won't start, as it's complaining about a missing kernel module. how would I go about re-creating that module? |
| 17:13.11 | abrotman | prock: zinf also |
| 17:13.13 | PerfDave | absenth: /msg dpgk nvidia |
| 17:13.14 | ke6isf | mike_sol: I've seen XMMS just segfault when trying to load one particular Enya album. |
| 17:13.26 | abrotman | absenth: reinstall the nvidia crap |
| 17:13.30 | PerfDave | absenth: You'll need to use the module-assistant method each time you install a new kernel-image package. |
| 17:13.32 | mike_sol | ke6isf, maybe it has better taste in music than you do :D |
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| 17:13.46 | ke6isf | mike: Hey! I like Enya, you insensitive clod! |
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| 17:13.53 | PerfDave | Hell, I'd segfault if someone tried to make me load an Enya album. |
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| 17:14.03 | mike_sol | me too, im just messing with you. it's great programming music. maybe try the xmms-mad plugin |
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| 17:14.07 | mike_sol | different mp3 codec |
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| 17:14.31 | prock | mike_sol: I've been using it for a long long time, but am getting more and more frustrated with it drawing its own windows. |
| 17:14.40 | amorphix | can you run stable and testing packages on the same box? |
| 17:14.58 | amorphix | (on a testing box) |
| 17:15.04 | wally | Hi, I really need help.. (as everyone does I guess) |
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| 17:15.09 | bibe | amorphix : yes, google for apt-pinning |
| 17:15.13 | amorphix | ok |
| 17:15.14 | wally | has anybody managed to netboot routerboard? |
| 17:15.18 | mike_sol | prock, i hear that. by all means try amarok if you can, you'll like the way it picks music for you (guarantee it) |
| 17:15.20 | absenth | PerfDave: |
| 17:15.23 | resiak | amorphix: What's the point in running stable packages on a testing box? |
| 17:15.23 | prock | ke6isf: yeah, I know all about that and popcon and all... I just get frustrated at those who sit in this 'support' forum and just wait for people to walk in and ask a question so that they can tell them how wrong they were to ask it in the first place |
| 17:15.30 | somePriest | bibe : I think I'm told apt-pinning is not wise? |
| 17:15.40 | prock | mike_sol: will do, thanks again :) |
| 17:15.43 | black_Nightmare | abrot..download/make all 14 cds just to have a simple offline graphic/office pc? ummm ^-^ |
| 17:16.14 | amorphix | resiak: need a package only available in stable |
| 17:16.17 | stew | black_Nightmare: you don't need them all /msg dpkg which cd |
| 17:16.24 | nite613 | prock: FWIW at this point, my !anyone was directed at Gandalf (who said "Anyone here run ipac-ng"), not at you. I think your question has merit |
| 17:16.39 | black_Nightmare | hm...one second |
| 17:16.43 | ke6isf | prock: Perhaps it's a point of pedantry that needs to be address. It's widely grokked that "Does anybody use..." is improper form (just ask, already!), but looking for suggestions for alternative apps is controversial. There is likely a better way, though I'll admit to not knowing. |
| 17:17.06 | bibe | somePriest : I use it for a few packages (ieee80211-source, ipw2200-source, rkhunter), involving neither dependency problems nor libc issues, and I never had a single problem |
| 17:17.21 | varsendagger | .::: offtopic sorry ::::.... i just reinstalled my os and i keep my home directory on another drive now that i've got my os installed how do i make a user that uses my old home directory |
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| 17:17.39 | nite613 | varsendagger: Make the user and then set his homedir in /etc/passwd |
| 17:17.52 | nite613 | varsendagger: probably a chown -R over the homedir would be helpful as well |
| 17:17.54 | PerfDave | bibe, somePriest: apt-pinning *can* cause dependency problems, it doesn't *have* to. For -source packages it's *unlikely* to, but you're better off just installing the relevant .debs by hand anyway. |
| 17:17.59 | doleyb | varsendagger: adduser --home /mnt/olddrive/oldhome newuser |
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| 17:18.27 | varsendagger | nice |
| 17:18.29 | ke6isf | Hmm... should stretch. |
| 17:18.56 | prock | ke6isf: yes, I can understand how "what's better, vim or emacs" can be frustrating.... it's just that sometimes I scared to say anything in #debian for fear of getting !yousuck'd :) |
| 17:19.12 | prock | nite613: I don't know what FWIW is, but thanks for the clarification :) |
| 17:19.19 | mike_sol | 'for what it's worth' |
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| 17:19.26 | penguin__ | I am posting to flood. Someone be so kind as to look there. |
| 17:19.28 | sylvain_ | huh... where's gdm's startup directory? i remember calling this script... "gdm stop", but can't remember where |
| 17:19.36 | asg | sylvain_: /etc/init.d |
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| 17:19.49 | sylvain_ | :-) |
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| 17:20.08 | asg | prock: also, apt-get install bsdgames ; /usr/games/wtf is <FOO> can help in the future. YMMV |
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| 17:20.28 | varsendagger | doleyb |
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| 17:20.47 | varsendagger | should i need to chown -R with your command? |
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| 17:21.08 | doleyb | varsendagger: you may, it would prob be best to have that user own the things, even if he can rw them anyway |
| 17:21.11 | stew | varsendagger: it depends on whether or not you happen to get the same uid you had before |
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| 17:21.33 | prock | asg: neato! thanks :) |
| 17:21.35 | penguin__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:21.35 | varsendagger | ahh that makes sence |
| 17:21.51 | penguin__ | What does that mean? |
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| 17:23.23 | varsendagger | how do i chown -R? |
| 17:23.23 | amorphix | hi |
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| 17:23.43 | doleyb | varsendagger: chown -R username /mnt/olddrive/oldhome |
| 17:23.44 | amorphix | chown -R permission folder |
| 17:23.49 | penguin__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.02 | amorphix | oops |
| 17:24.08 | amorphix | chmod |
| 17:24.16 | xfan | varsendagger : chown -R user /folder |
| 17:24.18 | penguin__ | Y would you want to prevent users from logging in using passwords? |
| 17:24.34 | asg | penguin__: if they have pub/priv keys, who needs passwords |
| 17:24.40 | black_Nightmare | stew mind pm for a second? |
| 17:24.41 | doleyb | penguin__: because you've decided for whatever reason, that you don't trust people to keep passowrds secret. |
| 17:24.44 | varsendagger | do i ahve to be root to do that? |
| 17:24.45 | asg | penguin__: besides, that stops the automated ssh scanners from being effective |
| 17:24.48 | varsendagger | --- obviously |
| 17:24.52 | varsendagger | sorry |
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| 17:25.07 | jengelh | Hey I just found http://www.lesbian.mine.nu/ |
| 17:25.16 | wally | can anyone here help me with bloody debian netboot? |
| 17:25.18 | asg | jengelh: thank tarzeau then |
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| 17:25.24 | penguin__ | So how do they login? |
| 17:25.36 | asg | penguin__: by using ssh public keys. |
| 17:25.38 | jbroome | penguin__: ssh keys |
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| 17:25.43 | stew | wally: is "bloody" a new debian based distro? :P |
| 17:25.48 | stew | black_Nightmare: uhh i guess? |
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| 17:25.58 | asg | stew: it's the en_UK flavour |
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| 17:26.05 | wally | it is to me (: can you please tell me what I do wrong |
| 17:26.14 | wally | in nfs server I've got: |
| 17:26.22 | penguin__ | So the computer remembers the key, and anyone can login usingthe computer? |
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| 17:26.30 | wally | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:26.41 | wally | 192.168.100.250:/var/export/routerboard/root / nfs 0 1 |
| 17:26.42 | doleyb | penguin__: well, sometimes it's that way, or otherwise the key requires a passcode to make it go. |
| 17:26.43 | asg | penguin__: it depends, most keys have passphrases |
| 17:26.43 | wally | 192.168.100.250:/var/export/routerboard/root/proc /proc proc 0 0 |
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| 17:27.06 | wally | and /etc/exports |
| 17:27.08 | stew | wally: you are mounting /proc via nfs? wtf |
| 17:27.09 | asg | penguin__: another option is to use OPIE via pam (which we do on some servers) |
| 17:27.18 | wally | /var/export/routerboard/root -maproot=root:wheel routerboard |
| 17:27.26 | penguin__ | If you disable challenge-response authentication, then users will not be ? ? able to log in using passwords. |
| 17:27.36 | penguin__ | So I dont want to do that? |
| 17:27.50 | asmodaiii | hi, what's the version of kernel at the installation of ETCH? |
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| 17:28.02 | wally | and when I'm booting that board I'm getting: |
| 17:28.03 | wally | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 0d:02 |
| 17:28.09 | asg | asmodaiii: whatever was in etch at the time the disc iso was created |
| 17:28.12 | stew | penguin__: no you can have challenge-response disabled and password enabled |
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| 17:28.36 | penguin__ | SSH is not secure using passwords? |
| 17:28.40 | penguin__ | I dont understand this. |
| 17:28.55 | asg | penguin__: yes, it is as secure as your password |
| 17:28.55 | jbroome | penguin__: ssh is secure, users are not |
| 17:29.20 | nerdy2 | well it's less secure than your pw (using pw authentication) |
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| 17:30.00 | Karat3 | how to make debian sarge to make security updates automatically each night? |
| 17:30.08 | asg | Karat3: cron-apt |
| 17:30.10 | kie27 | greetings all, little pdf problem, am generating a postscript file with latex which looks great, but when i generate pdf file with dvipdf or ps2pdf fonts look terrible, any suggestions on how i can improve this? |
| 17:30.14 | jengelh | porn-get :p |
| 17:30.18 | Karat3 | asg |
| 17:30.24 | Karat3 | asg: tutorial? |
| 17:30.36 | asg | Karat3: apt-get install cron-apt ; /usr/share/doc/cron-apt/* |
| 17:30.38 | penguin__ | HOw can it be less secure than your password? |
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| 17:31.12 | nerdy2 | penguin__, because ssh sends the keystrokes in real-time, this leaks information about your password |
| 17:31.14 | doleyb | penguin__: telnetd, for example, is less secure than your password, because anyone can sniff you |
| 17:31.49 | stew | penguin__: with challenge reposnse its possible for the ssh server admin to capture your plaintext password |
| 17:32.02 | nerdy2 | penguin__, potential attackers can use the timing of your keystrokes to estimate your password (e.g. it takes longer to type a j and m in sequence because you have to move your finger, rather than it does to type j then f or whatever) |
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| 17:32.37 | nerdy2 | penguin__, together with some linguistic knowledge about which letters are likely to come in sequence, this gives away a bit |
| 17:32.39 | mike_sol | nerdy2, if somebody cared that much, wouldn't they just break into your house and steal your computer |
| 17:32.48 | asg | nerdy2: you could use dvorak mappings ;) |
| 17:32.50 | prock | btw, zinf is the winner, thanks abrotman :) |
| 17:32.55 | penguin__ | I have a headache |
| 17:33.06 | nerdy2 | mike_sol, this they could do easily, and without having to change locations |
| 17:33.23 | LoRez | nerdy2: what makes you think that all passwords are linguistically based? |
| 17:33.24 | mike_sol | which does indeed matter for the corpulent hackers who would attempt it |
| 17:33.40 | nerdy2 | mike_sol, so i don't exactly see it as the same thing, "should i upgrade a vulnerable apache server?" "well if they cared that much, they could always break into my house" |
| 17:34.18 | prock | I type dvorak... my friend one time spent 1/2 hour figuring out how to type my username but then got thrown on the password because you can't see what you type :) |
| 17:34.22 | nerdy2 | LoRez, i don't, but a great many passwords are based on names and or words or other things stemming from language |
| 17:34.27 | mne | hi there ! If I use the "w" command it shows me which users are currently logged in and what they are doing. Unfortunately the USER column shows the first 8 characters of the username only. is there a way so that I can see the complete usernames ? |
| 17:34.35 | somePriest | nerdy2 : I think he refers to the effort for so little gain...? |
| 17:34.42 | mike_sol | alright, but that's a bit different. you need to not only intercept the communication, but also compensate for variable network latency and have a huge database full of timing statistics for people's keyboards. in all likelyhood you'd have to profile the individual person by observing their network sessions several times. |
| 17:34.42 | jengelh | mike_sol: no, they could be caught. When they're via internet from russia or so, it's questionable whether they really will be c |
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| 17:34.58 | mike_sol | seems pretty far fetched, even though i saw the slashdot story on it a while back |
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| 17:35.18 | nerdy2 | mike_sol, no, you'd have timing statistics for qwerty keyboards and the english language, and you'd do this at random, just like with dictionary attacks |
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| 17:35.42 | nerdy2 | mike_sol, the difference being you can be more effective this way (esp. in combination with dictionary attacks) |
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| 17:35.44 | dusty- | Hey guys you know cgi irc clients, e.g.: --> cgi-irc-user (410d1681@bawt) has joined #social -- Well the number --> 410d1681 can be converted into the ip address, but I can't remember howto do it, any ideas? |
| 17:35.46 | Jacky^ | hello guys |
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| 17:35.57 | doleyb | if that were a serious threat, ssh clients could be modified to randomize the delay between someone's first 20 keystrokes |
| 17:36.11 | nerdy2 | mike_sol, why do people compile large dictionaries of passwords and try to use dictionary attacks on ssh servers |
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| 17:36.20 | LoRez | dusty-: cut it up into two nibble chunks and convert from hex to decimal. |
| 17:36.41 | Jacky^ | right now i made a money donation to Software in the Public Interest, Inc. :P |
| 17:36.56 | mike_sol | nerdy2, true enough. but either way, it's the sort of thing that is a little too paranoid for me to ever worry about. at the very least, nobody would go to that extent for just a random machine. it would be a targetted attack |
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| 17:37.16 | nerdy2 | i could see this getting into one of those kits that people use :) |
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| 17:37.28 | nerdy2 | it would at least make dictionary attacks more effective |
| 17:38.10 | doleyb | nerdy2,mike_sol: ironically, those attacks will be stronger if the host has rules ("must have a number and an uppercase") |
| 17:38.11 | nerdy2 | if you care http://packetstormsecurity.nl/papers/cryptography/ssh-timing.pdf is a paper detailing that it does in fact leak information |
| 17:38.13 | amorphix | I'm getting some weird stuff happening like apps not starting due configurations/directories not being writeable on my home (NFS) fs.. I have just reinstalled my sys and think I may have overlooked something. the group id matches the server I can write files to my home folder from shell tho. any ideas? |
| 17:38.13 | xfan | there is options to prevent this kinds of atacks |
| 17:38.46 | prock | amorphix: be sure your UID hasn't change |
| 17:38.47 | manuro | hello - could someone tell where to find a driver for ethernet card Broadcom BCM 5752 for installing with debian testing (not in the list of installer) ?? |
| 17:38.49 | prock | s/change/changed |
| 17:39.04 | asg | manuro: is that wireless? |
| 17:39.04 | nerdy2 | xfan, ? |
| 17:39.05 | mike_sol | doleyb, i always figured that rules like that would make some passwords weaked. not in the dictionary is one thing, but demanding numbers is dumb as then you've got a couple character positions with only 10 possible chars, as apposed to 26 (x2 with capitals) when they're using letters |
| 17:39.12 | amorphix | prock: thanks where do I check? |
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| 17:39.27 | nvz | amorphix: id |
| 17:39.46 | prock | amorphix: like nvz says and ls -n |
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| 17:39.58 | amorphix | thanks guys |
| 17:40.04 | doleyb | mike_sol: they don't usually demand numbers in a certain place, so it's more like forcing people to be 36 someplace instead of 26 everywhere |
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| 17:40.24 | nerdy2 | anyways, using public key authentication is superior |
| 17:40.48 | doleyb | mike_sol: but numbers and uppercase are likely to have more predicatble timings around them... alg could say "that took longer, he was pushing shift, that's a basis for all other key positions" |
| 17:40.51 | mike_sol | true, doleyb. but i would wager 90% of the time, people put 2 or 4 numbers, and at the end of the password. and if there's 4 of them, it's usually a year |
| 17:41.17 | mike_sol | yeah pki is better. it's a bit harder to set up, though. i really need to get myself an SSL certificate for here |
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| 17:41.24 | mike_sol | but they cost money |
| 17:41.25 | Jacky^ | just a thing is not clean to me: in the debian website I read in it, remember to specify that donation is for Debian, while the next page (spi) says please do not specify any project so the money will automatically go to the group who need .. what its right for you ? |
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| 17:41.34 | asg | mike_sol: use a self-signed cert |
| 17:41.57 | mike_sol | asg, i do that now, but for our site it would be nice if people didn't have to click okay to something they don't understand |
| 17:42.03 | sylvain_ | such an hard time with my desktop! how is KDE's "display" to be configured? |
| 17:42.18 | nerdy2 | it's not that hard to set up, run ssh-keygen, and then put the public key over in the authorized_keys file |
| 17:42.20 | PerfDave | sylvain_: What do you mean? |
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| 17:42.24 | asg | mike_sol: you could setup your own CA and distribute the key (provided you have a small number of users.) |
| 17:42.32 | nvz | mike_sol: people do it all the time |
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| 17:42.59 | mike_sol | asg, i could do that. but we have an online ordering system... i really need something anyone can accept without blinking |
| 17:43.01 | nkuttler | is it me or is google really really slow today? |
| 17:43.07 | nvz | mike_sol: as if windows users read the EULA every time they install something :P |
| 17:43.12 | sylvain_ | well i must admit that i kinda "broke" gnome while trying to get a higher resolution for my screen. so, i'm trying KDE but it won't start because $DISPLAY is not set. |
| 17:43.19 | quest_ | did anyone install the 2200bg? i tried everything and couldn't. i also upgraded to sid, hoping something better, but nothing again |
| 17:43.29 | PerfDave | sylvain_: Uhm, how are you trying to start KDE? |
| 17:43.36 | mike_sol | nvz, true. but i've noticed the default clicking for things by average users is slowly shifting to CANCEL always rather than okay always as it used to be |
| 17:43.42 | kashim | hi all |
| 17:43.45 | sylvain_ | kdeinit |
| 17:43.47 | asg | mike_sol: of course. |
| 17:44.04 | nvz | mike_sol: the industry increased their paranoia |
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| 17:44.24 | nvz | mike_sol: with terms like spyware, PUP, virus.. |
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| 17:44.42 | mike_sol | sucks for my under-the-table side business though. i used to get $100 every couple days to watch progress bars |
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| 17:45.17 | jengelh | sounds cool |
| 17:46.04 | black_Nightmare | well stew I guess I'm going off for now so bye ;-) |
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| 17:46.22 | PerfDave | sylvain_: *shrug* I always use kdm. You might want to ask #debian-kde but $DISPLAY not being set sounds to me like you're SSHing in? |
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| 17:46.58 | PerfDave | Gosh, we need ops to kick people like black_Nightmare |
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| 17:47.14 | nvz | why |
| 17:47.45 | stew | he was off topic, then start msging me on topic questions about how to install, which is just backwards |
| 17:48.10 | PerfDave | nvz: People who aren't using Debian, who insist on hassling #debian with their non-Debian questions after repeatedly being politely informed that #debian isn't for non-Debian questions, and taking the piss out of people who provide that information? |
| 17:48.10 | nvz | shit happens |
| 17:48.25 | soymilk | anyone know expression to return value of current cell in sc? |
| 17:48.32 | nvz | PerfDave: I missed all that. |
| 17:48.34 | sylvain_ | PerfDave: i installed debian 4 days ago... SSH is still a mystery to me, sorry |
| 17:48.45 | kashim | hi, I'm having a few probs with apt under Debian |
| 17:48.51 | PerfDave | sylvain_: Uh, what are you talking about? |
| 17:48.56 | nvz | kashim: ask a question |
| 17:49.01 | kashim | seems he can't find some packages |
| 17:49.10 | nvz | Hawkwind: the FBI gave your pc back? |
| 17:49.10 | kashim | here's my error message : |
| 17:49.15 | Jacky^ | :) |
| 17:49.18 | dhp_saturn_v4 | what tool to use to configure RAID arrays on SCSI cards ? |
| 17:49.19 | nvz | dont pase big errors in here |
| 17:49.27 | Hawkwind | nvz: I killed the agent so they had no choice :P |
| 17:49.32 | asg | nvz: looks like his error was ':' (not very useful) |
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| 17:49.40 | kashim | (I might flood a bit the chan) |
| 17:49.42 | kashim | Package wine is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 17:49.44 | kashim | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 17:49.44 | kashim | is only available from another source |
| 17:49.44 | kashim | E: Package wine has no installation candidate |
| 17:49.44 | asg | kashim: don't |
| 17:49.44 | nvz | kashim: use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 17:49.49 | PerfDave | sylvain_: I don't think you should be able to startkde when SSH'd in. |
| 17:50.07 | amorphix | why doesnt set uid username # change a uid? |
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| 17:50.17 | stew | kashim: what version of debian are you running? |
| 17:50.20 | Spec[x] | PerfDave: why not? |
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| 17:50.33 | nvz | amorphix: I've never heard of a "set" command |
| 17:50.35 | PerfDave | Spec[x]: Why should you? |
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| 17:50.42 | Spec[x] | X11 forwarding |
| 17:50.45 | nvz | amorphix: would be usermod I would think |
| 17:50.53 | Spec[x] | err, maybe if you have obscene bandwidth lying around |
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| 17:50.59 | kashim | that was it... wasn't that long in fact |
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| 17:51.08 | PerfDave | Spec[x]: But startkde starts the X server, doesn't it? Doing that over ssh makes no sense. |
| 17:51.09 | asg | kashim: what debian? |
| 17:51.09 | sylvain_ | PerfDave: thanx for answering. but I don't know anything about SSH, so I guess it'd be better if i went through more reading before i ask anything that may seem obvious |
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| 17:51.27 | Spec[x] | PerfDave: oh, i don't know, i thought startkde just did kde |
| 17:51.30 | kashim | what I can't understand is that the wine package for example seems to be in my repositories |
| 17:51.33 | amorphix | nvz: ok thanks |
| 17:51.47 | xfan | and how about "telnet" |
| 17:51.47 | xfan | ? |
| 17:51.47 | PerfDave | sylvain_: I think you need to go to #debian-kde and tell them very carefully what you're trying to do. |
| 17:51.50 | nvz | kashim: stfu, and answer people trying to help |
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| 17:51.53 | ove | sylvain_: export DISPLAY=":0"; kde |
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| 17:52.03 | nvz | :P |
| 17:52.05 | asg | kashim: what does 'apt-cache policy wine' show for the repo |
| 17:52.09 | ove | sylvain_: or ssh -X host kde |
| 17:52.13 | sebastia1 | How can I find out what my screen resolution is? I dont know much about linux I just use gnome. |
| 17:52.13 | stew | kashim: paste your sources.list into http://channels.debian.net/paste (dpm |
| 17:52.25 | stew | don't paste here |
| 17:52.31 | sylvain_ | PerfDave: but I don't exactly know myself :P it's almost like I'm typing commands at random, which is no good |
| 17:52.32 | asg | sebastia1: xdpyinfo |
| 17:52.39 | mike_sol | if you want to forward X over SSH, go get freeNX and use a nomachine client instead. it's fantastically fast. |
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| 17:52.58 | Spec[x] | !xandr |
| 17:53.02 | Spec[x] | !xrandr |
| 17:53.02 | dpkg | well, xrandr is used to set the screen size, orientation and/or reflection. |
| 17:53.04 | kashim | asg, sorry, missed your question, Sarge PPC |
| 17:53.09 | amorphix | I have no name!@tecra:~$ ha |
| 17:53.18 | amorphix | su |
| 17:53.21 | amorphix | Sorry. |
| 17:53.26 | amorphix | heh |
| 17:53.33 | Spec[x] | mike_sol: i've heard |
| 17:53.36 | stew | has anyone actually encountered a card that was willing to do different orientation or reflection in xrandr? |
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| 17:53.48 | asg | kashim: wine probably won't install since windows doesn't work on PPC? |
| 17:53.51 | amorphix | im screwed? |
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| 17:53.55 | mike_sol | stew, i don't think rotation is actually implemented yet? |
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| 17:54.09 | asg | kashim: I could be wrong though. Try #debianppc for clarification |
| 17:54.13 | kashim | asg, yep, that was just an example |
| 17:54.15 | mike_sol | but nvidia-settings can do that sort of thing i think |
| 17:54.17 | nvz | would have to be for ceiling mounted projectors |
| 17:54.20 | stew | mike_sol: nice of them to tease me with the option years in advance then |
| 17:54.28 | mike_sol | stew, it's X. |
| 17:54.31 | Spec[x] | mike_sol: i've never tried freenx yet though, but i've heard it's faster to use freeNX with a modem to browse the internet (on a different lan), than directly through the modem itself |
| 17:54.34 | kashim | asg, but it's just about finding the package, does the same thing for mldonkey-server for example |
| 17:54.37 | mike_sol | i love it to death but it's insane sometimes |
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| 17:54.51 | amorphix | I think I hosed my sys? |
| 17:54.53 | stew | i can't imagine that wine would work on ppc |
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| 17:55.02 | Spec[x] | stew: umm, I think my nvidia card can rotate |
| 17:55.05 | amorphix | I have no name!@tecra:~$ su root |
| 17:55.05 | amorphix | Sorry. |
| 17:55.05 | nvz | stew: why not |
| 17:55.10 | mike_sol | Spec[x], i find that a little bit hard to believe, but it's entirely possible if you were running graphically simple stuff on the remote machine (i.e. no gradients/antialiasing) |
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| 17:55.25 | Spec[x] | stew: but i think I use NVRotate or something like that...not sure if it rotates via xrandr though |
| 17:55.27 | mike_sol | also no, wine does not work on PPC |
| 17:55.29 | kashim | asg, ok, gonna ask over there then |
| 17:55.31 | nvz | stew: its a completly rewritten win32 api. if its portable it will run on anything you port it to |
| 17:55.37 | amorphix | how hosed is that? a little or very? |
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| 17:55.47 | Spec[x] | mike_sol: well, it's better than vnc, regardless :p |
| 17:55.47 | asg | kashim: see what stew said above about your sources.list |
| 17:56.01 | mike_sol | Spec[x], i could walk to the other computer and use it faster than VNC |
| 17:56.01 | stew | pdo says wine is win32 only |
| 17:56.06 | Spec[x] | hehehe |
| 17:56.11 | stew | errr, i386 only |
| 17:56.19 | amorphix | I think I need to logout |
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| 17:56.30 | mike_sol | hahah the windows not-an-emulator only running on windows |
| 17:56.33 | mike_sol | that'd be funny |
| 17:56.37 | sonic2k | do you know address which can help me compiling my own kernel or is it enough to search at google? |
| 17:56.39 | sylvain_ | gdm |
| 17:56.50 | Spec[x] | sonic2k: kernel.org maybe |
| 17:56.55 | sonic2k | thx |
| 17:56.59 | sonic2k | danke |
| 17:57.00 | kashim | asg, about the policy it says (none) for Installed and Candidate |
| 17:57.15 | stew | kashim: there is no wine available for ppc |
| 17:57.26 | sonic2k | danke |
| 17:57.27 | quest_ | i think my debian is not using XF86Config-4. how can i know what it is using? |
| 17:57.37 | mike_sol | Quest, xorg.conf? |
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| 17:57.51 | quest_ | mike_sol, how can i know? |
| 17:57.51 | kashim | stew, wait a minute please |
| 17:57.59 | mike_sol | quest_, also, check /var/log/xorg.0.log || /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
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| 17:58.01 | PerfDave | sonic2k: Why do you think you want to compile your own kernel? |
| 17:58.01 | asg | quest_: look in /var/log for an X*.0.log |
| 17:58.03 | stew | kashim: at least not in debian |
| 17:58.04 | mike_sol | it'll be at the top of the file |
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| 17:58.23 | sonic2k | i'm just intrested in how it works |
| 17:58.36 | mike_sol | sonic2k, that's a good thing. compiling the kernel will teach you a lot |
| 17:58.44 | Spec[x] | like...failure |
| 17:58.47 | Spec[x] | and how to cope with it |
| 17:58.48 | mike_sol | expect to do it wrong the first n times |
| 17:59.01 | timmo | can anyone tell me if aptitude logs all commands? |
| 17:59.04 | quest_ | mike_sol, asg, i have both. so what should i look? |
| 17:59.05 | sonic2k | ok, i will try it |
| 17:59.07 | PerfDave | sonic2k: Fair enough. Also look at "make-kpkg" in Debian for ways to make life easier for you, and ccache to speed up multiple compiles. |
| 17:59.07 | mike_sol | but when you do! and then you go all apeshit and try new schedulers and -ac and -mm patches and it's so much fun |
| 17:59.09 | stew | kashim: you could maybe do something wacky like run wine inside qemu, but that would probably be horribly slow |
| 17:59.13 | timmo | sorry, and if so, where? |
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| 17:59.22 | mike_sol | Quest, delete both of them and restart X. whichever one recreates is the culprit |
| 17:59.28 | sonic2k | ok |
| 17:59.30 | mike_sol | chances are it's xorg |
| 17:59.34 | mike_sol | i bet you my socks |
| 17:59.43 | stew | timmo: dpkg in testing and sid logs to /var/log/dpkg.log don't know about aptitude specifically though |
| 18:00.39 | stew | quest_: what is the first line printed by "X -version" ? |
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| 18:01.12 | Spec[x] | it's time to do backups...wheeeee. |
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| 18:01.41 | Daedalus_ | !logfile |
| 18:01.41 | dpkg | Back in the good old days, we would just look in the system log file to see what was really going on. The new crowd of Linux users would rather not have to do that, however; they expect the system to tell them, politely, that their hardware is on fire and that they are about to deeply regret not having run any backups since sometime last winter. Logs are typically found in /var/log/ |
| 18:01.50 | stew | timmo: actually i have a /var/log/aptitude as well |
| 18:01.55 | quest_ | yes, it was xorg |
| 18:02.05 | asg | !factinfo logfile |
| 18:02.05 | dpkg | logfile -- created by daedalus_ <~ngallahe@carbon.citi.umich.edu> at Thu Jul 7 03:02:24 2005 (137 days); it has been requested 9 times, last by Daedalus_, 24s ago. |
| 18:02.12 | stew | quest_: config for xorg is /var/log/xorg.conf |
| 18:02.19 | Daedalus_ | asg: *grins* |
| 18:02.23 | Daedalus_ | asg: I like it. |
| 18:02.24 | asg | Daedalus_: that had a greycatish tone to it |
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| 18:03.47 | quest_ | stew, is there some utility to configure the xorg? and what is the configuration file (just in case, so i can make a backup of it) |
| 18:03.48 | timmo | stew. thanks, yes, there is a log at /var/log for aptitude. it tells which packages and dependencies have been installed/updated. great! thanks very much. it does not show what commands have been given but hey, that is not so important... |
| 18:04.02 | asg | !drxx quest_ |
| 18:04.06 | dpkg | quest_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 18:04.41 | stew | quest_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg ; /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 18:04.41 | kashim | asg, wine was only an example, got the same prob with mldonkey-server for example, and it seems to have a powerpc package |
| 18:04.59 | asg | kashim: use our paster bot to paste your sources so we can see |
| 18:05.01 | quest_ | stew, asg thanks |
| 18:05.05 | kashim | asg, http://ftp.debian.org/pool/main/m/mldonkey/mldonkey-server_2.5.28.1-1_powerpc.deb |
| 18:05.23 | stew | kashim: there is no mldonkey-server in sarge |
| 18:05.49 | stew | kashim: that is the unstable package |
| 18:06.00 | kashim | asg, ok |
| 18:06.23 | nvz | I wonder wtf "walks like rain" would mean |
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| 18:06.35 | nvz | if I am hearing it right |
| 18:06.49 | kashim | stew, ok... I must run out for a while, bbl 20 mins, thanks for your help |
| 18:07.03 | EdibleText | nvz, steady, unrelenting |
| 18:07.21 | EdibleText | nvz, or perhaps sporatic and gusty |
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| 18:08.17 | nvz | EdibleText: I guess when making a similie you focus on the essence of the subject, not so much a direct comparison |
| 18:08.20 | Daedalus_ | asg: Is that good, bad, or indifferent? |
| 18:08.33 | nvz | EdibleText: I am thinking to myself, when does rain walk.. |
| 18:08.57 | EdibleText | nvz, i thought when it rains, it pours |
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| 18:09.13 | EdibleText | nvz, bad poetry? |
| 18:09.14 | nvz | EdibleText: yeah, exact;y |
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| 18:09.21 | nvz | EdibleText: lyrics |
| 18:09.31 | EdibleText | heh |
| 18:09.44 | nvz | Train "Drops Of Jupiter" |
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| 18:10.00 | nvz | I never did find out for sure if that singer is blind.. but the way he moves you'd think so |
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| 18:10.23 | triumph | for some reason when i run aptitude dist-upgrade, it can't seem to get the headers from the sites defined, anybody know how i can choose alternative mirrors? |
| 18:10.33 | PerfDave | triumph: apt-setup |
| 18:10.39 | triumph | PerfDave: thanks |
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| 18:11.44 | nvz | I like them. they are my kind of band. large group of mature and talented individuals who really flow. they did damn good covers of "Dream On" by Aerosmith and "Ramble On" by Led Zepplin in concert |
| 18:12.16 | PerfDave | Are we still talking about Enya? :) |
| 18:12.22 | nvz | heh |
| 18:12.34 | nvz | I was talking about Train |
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| 18:13.02 | triumph | PerfDave: ok, i changed to a different mirror and tested that it works with apt-setup, when i run aptitude dist-upgrade i am again stuck at the 'waiting for headers'. could it be that the added ftp doesn't have all the packages that i need? |
| 18:13.21 | EdibleText | nvz, train-choo-choo or train-practice? |
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| 18:13.34 | EdibleText | nvz, its a suggestive word |
| 18:13.38 | nvz | I should have went to their concert or the Petty/Crowes concert this year since my band wasnt touring :P |
| 18:13.45 | nvz | just plain old Train |
| 18:13.52 | EdibleText | heh |
| 18:14.43 | asg | Daedalus_: I'd consider it good; greycat was one of our most revered oldsters |
| 18:14.43 | nvz | I like the Black Crowes that probably kicked ass. my friend went, but he doesnt know them like I do. He probably only knows maybe one or two of their songs |
| 18:14.45 | wally | can anybody help me with this: http://forum.routerboard.com/viewtopic.php?t=2986 |
| 18:14.51 | nite613 | What's the most compatible N64 emulator? Is Project 64 X still the best? |
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| 18:15.00 | nite613 | wrong channel, I'm sorry |
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| 18:15.15 | dusk | whats a good linux email client dies thunderbird |
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| 18:15.40 | triumph | dusk: huh? |
| 18:15.47 | loxley_ | anybody knows of a program for linux that does what dvdshrink does on windows? |
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| 18:15.53 | nvz | dusk: now are not our herring today, dusk. By the order of dominos with extra cheese? |
| 18:15.53 | asg | dusk: it depends on what you need in a mail client |
| 18:15.54 | dusk | dies |
| 18:15.55 | triumph | dusk: mutt is good |
| 18:15.57 | dusk | heh |
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| 18:16.05 | prock | dusk: mutt |
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| 18:16.18 | dusk | asg: something that I can put a lot of folders and set actions |
| 18:16.18 | Ronin | dusk: define good |
| 18:16.28 | nvz | I have no idea what you were asking |
| 18:16.36 | Ronin | ive ran sylpheed, sylpheed-claws and currently evolution |
| 18:16.39 | asg | dusk: mutt is a good choice, sylpheed perhaps |
| 18:16.39 | prock | dusk: actions? you mean filters? mutt+procmail |
| 18:16.54 | dusk | prock: yea.. procmail eh |
| 18:17.04 | triumph | dusk: you want gui / console interface? |
| 18:17.18 | asg | triumph: don't forget, xterm -e mutt is a perfect gui |
| 18:17.19 | quest_ | i have a dell latitude d505. was anybody able to have the 1400x1050 resolution on it (intel 855 chipset) |
| 18:17.20 | nvz | hmm I wonder if that geeter is tuned.. I got 45 minutes or so until people start getting off work :P |
| 18:17.27 | dusk | triumph: hmm, doesnt matter |
| 18:17.38 | triumph | asg: true :) |
| 18:17.42 | prock | mutt all the way... I've tried forcing myself to use something others... but I always go back |
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| 18:17.44 | PerfDave | triumph: It could be taht your firewall or similar is blocking FTP? |
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| 18:17.58 | asg | prock: mutt + procmail is hard to beat |
| 18:18.07 | stew | mutt + maildrop ? |
| 18:18.15 | prock | asg: + MailDir + IMAP woot |
| 18:18.15 | dusk | maildrop? |
| 18:18.33 | stew | dusk: its an alternative to procmail with (imho) a more sane syntax |
| 18:18.40 | dusk | im in real estate, so I need to filter all my office mail to one folder, and all my client mail to another |
| 18:18.41 | asg | prock: Maildir + screen + mutt (no need for imap then :) |
| 18:18.53 | dusk | then Id like to put all my etc mail (on a different acct) into a third |
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| 18:19.07 | asg | dusk: easily done with both maildrop and procmail |
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| 18:19.15 | prock | asg: I can't get screen to handle SIGWINCH's very well, otherwise I'd agree |
| 18:19.17 | nvz | I still got two pieces of pizza but if I eat those I am not moving for the rest of the afternoon :P |
| 18:19.28 | asg | prock: ah, okay. |
| 18:19.35 | stew | nvz: ctcp a piece to me |
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| 18:20.01 | asg | prock: usually a quick Ctrl+L fixes any corruption after window changes |
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| 18:20.13 | prock | asg: I'll try it tnx |
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| 18:20.16 | nvz | :) |
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| 18:20.32 | asg | prock: you're welcome |
| 18:20.33 | triumph | PerfDave: don't see how, since i downloaded the packages earlier today, thanks anyway, will try a different mirror |
| 18:20.35 | nvz | stew: what did that one look like? |
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| 18:20.47 | Spec[x] | my kernel is too big :-/ |
| 18:21.02 | stew | nvz: requested unknown CTCP PIZZA from stew |
| 18:21.08 | nvz | heh |
| 18:21.17 | asg | Spec[x]: CONFIG_BEER_STEAK=n |
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| 18:21.43 | Spec[x] | asg: no thanks, i like my BEER_STEAK as it is, full of flavour |
| 18:21.45 | nvz | well this guitar is relative, but to what I have no idea.. needs tuned |
| 18:21.54 | HyperZid | Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) <-- whats the most normal reason to this? |
| 18:22.02 | asg | Spec[x]: maybe CONFIG_STAIRMASTER=y |
| 18:22.04 | stew | !cantmountroot |
| 18:22.11 | stew | !can't mount root |
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| 18:22.11 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
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| 18:22.14 | asg | Spec[x]: or use make bzImage and if that is still too big, use an initrd. |
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| 18:22.32 | stew | HyperZid: you use lilo? did you compile the kernel yourself? |
| 18:22.45 | HyperZid | I compiled the kernel myself |
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| 18:22.50 | HyperZid | latest 2.6.x |
| 18:22.50 | stew | HyperZid: what dpkg said then |
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| 18:23.13 | Spec[x] | I need to get my kernel to use the stairmaster. |
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| 18:23.22 | Spec[x] | i like that idea the best |
| 18:23.29 | Spec[x] | that way the kernel has to do the work to lose weight |
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| 18:23.37 | HyperZid | steve, Setting up kernel-image-2.6.14.2-1 (10.00.Custom) ... |
| 18:23.49 | HyperZid | steve, and a bunch of other things. all seems normal... |
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| 18:24.03 | HyperZid | I used make-kpkg to compile it |
| 18:24.17 | stew | HyperZid: did you start with a debian config? or did you configure it yourself? |
| 18:24.29 | HyperZid | I configured it myself |
| 18:24.36 | triumph | anybody have a 'working' testing mirror they can send me? have tried 4 different ones, all timed out |
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| 18:24.49 | HyperZid | I remember I compiled reiserfs into the kernel |
| 18:24.51 | stew | HyperZid: re-read what dpkg said, you forgot drivers for the rootfs or your HD controller |
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| 18:25.30 | HyperZid | steve, can you join #flood ? |
| 18:25.36 | stew | i'm already there |
| 18:25.37 | somePriest | triumph : I think there is a program, called something like apt-spy, that allows you to benchmark apt servers. Maybe this would be of use? |
| 18:25.38 | HyperZid | and i'll paste what dpkg said |
| 18:25.44 | stew | and my name isn't steve |
| 18:25.45 | thc | who the hell is steve |
| 18:25.46 | xorphus | anyone know how to get the Home/End keys to work in vi? I'm using Debian stable (sarge) 3.1 |
| 18:25.51 | triumph | somePriest: thanks, will check it out |
| 18:25.52 | dusk | hey, i hav ea rar thats pw protected but the nfo is in french, know of any good rar crackers? |
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| 18:26.10 | HyperZid | steve, ok.. good |
| 18:26.14 | stew | HyperZid: no, not that dpkg, this dpkg: |
| 18:26.17 | stew | !can't mount root |
| 18:26.17 | dpkg | If you can't mount the root file system when you boot your custom kernel, it means you have failed to include support for either: (a) your root file system (e.g. ext3), or (b) your disk controller (IDE, SCSI, etc.). These cannot be modules, unless you use an initrd. Go check your config again. or make sure your bootloader knows about your initrd |
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| 18:26.23 | stew | HyperZid: ^^^ |
| 18:26.24 | bbrazil | xorphus: putty? |
| 18:26.31 | xorphus | bbrazil: yeah |
| 18:26.43 | bbrazil | xorphus: one sec, I might have the fix lying around |
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| 18:26.48 | HyperZid | steve, ah. okok |
| 18:27.04 | yyassine | hi |
| 18:27.11 | stew | my name is still not steve |
| 18:27.17 | steve | yes |
| 18:27.22 | quest_ | help, i was not able in any way to configure the 2200bg wireless card. with knoppix works. is there a way to take knoppix configuration to set up debian? |
| 18:27.22 | steve | and i get highlighted all the time |
| 18:27.27 | HyperZid | stew, I remember I first did an make-kpkg.. and THEN added reiserfs support into the kernel.. and then made make-kpkg again.. to compile |
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| 18:27.42 | stew | HyperZid: you forgot your IDE/SCSI controller then |
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| 18:27.44 | HyperZid | stew, do I need to issue some kinda clean command.. so the changes will be applyed |
| 18:27.48 | stew | no |
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| 18:27.50 | somePriest | stew steve : Can we call you S1 and S2, perhaps that is less ambiguous. |
| 18:27.54 | xorphus | bbrazil: we also had the same problem on the console, but I found a message on google that said it was in /etc/inputrc.. I found and uncommented it for Home/End and it worked there but not in vi. so 1 problem down, 1 to go ;) |
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| 18:28.02 | bbrazil | xorphus: you'll have to google for it. I'd suggest ^ and $ :) |
| 18:28.06 | Blisaed | HI, can somone tell me what the contrib and no-free archives are |
| 18:28.10 | steve | but anyway |
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| 18:28.21 | steve | is there anyway to get a 2.6.8-11 kernel on woody? |
| 18:28.23 | bbrazil | xorphus: there's options in putty that you can tweak too |
| 18:28.33 | HyperZid | stew, I remember it was impossible to select the ide controller as anything else than a module |
| 18:28.36 | secher | Could someone dcc me their fonts.conf file? |
| 18:28.40 | xorphus | bbrazil: yeah. that's what I thought too, but I'm not sure those work actually. let me check |
| 18:28.41 | bbrazil | steve: yes, you'll ned the modutils stuff from backports though |
| 18:28.51 | xorphus | bbrazil: oh, ok |
| 18:28.51 | HyperZid | stew, I got: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) |
| 18:28.52 | steve | backports? |
| 18:28.55 | bbrazil | xorphus: I'd have to agree with you |
| 18:29.07 | ziupiu | xophEr, use 0 and $ |
| 18:29.15 | stew | HyperZid: you need to include generic IDE support directly in if you want the individual drivers to not be modules |
| 18:29.25 | stew | HyperZid: your pci bridge has nothing to do with this |
| 18:29.29 | ziupiu | oops, it was for xorphus |
| 18:29.40 | xorphus | ok, yeah 0 and $ work in vi |
| 18:29.42 | Blisaed | can somone tell me what the contrib and no-free archives are? |
| 18:29.51 | thc | secher: msg me your email address and i can mail you mine, i can't dcc from this server |
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| 18:30.10 | stew | Blisaed: they are in the same place as main /msg dpkg contrib ; /msg dpkg non-free |
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| 18:30.21 | xorphus | my boss loves his vi and redhat.. while I'm "ok" with vi and hate redhat ;) |
| 18:30.30 | steve | bbrazil what you mean with backports? |
| 18:30.41 | xorphus | though, I must admit, redhat has the keymaps and all that setup perfectly |
| 18:30.47 | bbrazil | !backports |
| 18:30.47 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
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| 18:30.53 | thc | secher: sent |
| 18:31.22 | True_Emin | any philosphers here? |
| 18:31.42 | afabian | Is anybody really 'here'? |
| 18:31.50 | True_Emin | yeah |
| 18:31.54 | ziupiu | yt |
| 18:32.00 | True_Emin | but there all probably quite! |
| 18:32.19 | Blisaed | stew: i am somewhat confused, i'm really new to debian and linux period |
| 18:32.21 | True_Emin | but he is not |
| 18:32.31 | Blisaed | i'm learning |
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| 18:32.57 | stew | Blisaed: editor /etc/apt/sources.list, where you see "main" make it say "main contrib non-free" then run apt-get update |
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| 18:33.38 | dusk | stew: what exactly is that non-free stuff? |
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| 18:33.58 | Blisaed | Stew: is it possible to have unstable as well as non-free, so basically keep my old ones |
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| 18:34.07 | stew | dusk: software that is not part of debian becuase it doesn't meet the requirements of the dfsg, /msg dpkg dfsg |
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| 18:34.29 | stew | Blisaed: you don't want unstable, its a bad idea to mix distributions |
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| 18:34.54 | rhalff_ | hi, how can I fix something like this ? |
| 18:34.55 | rhalff_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:35.08 | rhalff_ | mysql-common-4.1: Conflicts: mysql-common |
| 18:35.10 | stew | rhalff_: thats not broken, it is correct |
| 18:35.28 | Blisaed | Stew: the reason i need the non-free is because I need to use M-A to get Nvidia drivers |
| 18:35.32 | rhalff_ | stew, but how to fix it :) |
| 18:35.39 | stew | rhalff_: do you actually wish to run both mysql 4.0 and 4.1 on the same server? |
| 18:35.59 | stew | rhalff_: or what are you trying to do? |
| 18:36.36 | rhalff_ | Im just trying to do a normal upgrade, but I think I've got a mysql server from an external repository installed |
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| 18:36.49 | rhalff_ | back when 4.0 wasn't stable yet probably |
| 18:36.53 | stew | rhalff_: which version do you wish to run? |
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| 18:37.11 | rhalff_ | 4.1 |
| 18:37.23 | stew | rhalff_: apt-get install mysql-common-4.1 mysql-server-4.1 |
| 18:37.56 | Skrotto | Hi. I'm trying to set up apache2 with SSL and regular http, but when I try to start apache2 I get the error: "Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address [::]:443 no listening sockets available, shutting down". What could cause that? There are no programs listening on 443 |
| 18:38.22 | stew | Skrotto: how did you check if anything was listening on 443? |
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| 18:38.43 | Blisaed | Stew: it is unwise to use unstable non-free you were saying? |
| 18:38.55 | stew | Blisaed: are you already using unstable? |
| 18:38.59 | stew | Blisaed: for main? |
| 18:38.59 | Blisaed | yes |
| 18:39.03 | Skrotto | lsof -i :443, netstat -pnt, ps aux | grep apache and | grep http just to check if anything was running, stew |
| 18:39.20 | Blisaed | Stew: i like having the latest of everything |
| 18:39.30 | stew | Blisaed: i meant that using unstable at all would be unwise for you, if you are already using it for main using it for non-free is not necessarily any more unwise |
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| 18:40.01 | zenwryly | How do I relaunch the part of the installer that configures the network? |
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| 18:40.16 | Blisaed | Stew: i see..stable is a wiser choice from the get-go though? |
| 18:40.20 | asg | zenwryly: man 5 interfaces |
| 18:40.26 | stew | Blisaed: yes |
| 18:40.32 | zenwryly | asg: thanks |
| 18:40.36 | polluo | ola peaso p'uta .cuentate algo..ers chica no? |
| 18:40.47 | stew | Blisaed: unstable is really only meant for developers and maybe people that know how to get out of a jam when it breaks |
| 18:40.52 | asg | polluo: no chicas aqui |
| 18:40.57 | dusk | oh, whats a good commany line? |
| 18:41.00 | dusk | jdf |
| 18:41.03 | dusk | command line FTP |
| 18:41.10 | elpin | ........... |
| 18:41.11 | PerfDave | wget? |
| 18:41.15 | elpin | hhhhhh |
| 18:41.19 | elpin | okkjkbg |
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| 18:41.24 | elpin | ola |
| 18:41.26 | dusk | wget does ftp? |
| 18:41.31 | elpin | cnt |
| 18:41.36 | Blisaed | Stew: So if I uninstalled everything, and ran stable would that work? |
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| 18:41.50 | dusk | try testing |
| 18:41.53 | dusk | :D |
| 18:41.53 | elpin | uuhuugtuuy |
| 18:41.58 | asg | !tell elpin about es |
| 18:41.58 | stew | Skrotto: both lsof -i :443 and netstat -pnt ; would only show established connections, not listening ones, iirc, what about netstat -pant | grep 443 |
| 18:41.59 | Blisaed | Stew: or should i just format lol |
| 18:42.16 | stew | Blisaed: if you wanted to go to stable at this point you would have to resinstall from scratch |
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| 18:42.30 | Skrotto | stew: nothing |
| 18:42.37 | zenwryly | asg: isn't there a way to rerun the installer for certain tasks, so I don't have to write my interfaces conf by hand? |
| 18:42.48 | asg | zenwryly: you can try etherconf |
| 18:42.49 | stew | Skrotto: odd. how are you trying to start it? |
| 18:42.59 | Blisaed | Stew: ya, well I wonder why my roomates use unstable... |
| 18:42.59 | stew | Skrotto: tried stracing it? |
| 18:43.04 | Skrotto | stew: /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 18:43.05 | Skrotto | no |
| 18:43.12 | zenwryly | asg: k thanks |
| 18:43.14 | stew | Skrotto: as root, right? |
| 18:43.20 | Skrotto | yes |
| 18:43.24 | PerfDave | zenwryly: You can try running base-config as root, or installing etherconf |
| 18:43.33 | zenwryly | PerfDave: there it is! Thanks |
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| 18:44.39 | emmanuelp | hi |
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| 18:44.49 | emmanuelp | does annyone have the same problem than the following |
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| 18:45.00 | emmanuelp | I cannot see any text in Flash using firefox |
| 18:45.08 | emmanuelp | I see the graphics but no text at all |
| 18:45.13 | emmanuelp | any idea? |
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| 18:45.54 | emmanuelp | anyone here? |
| 18:46.09 | dusk | emmanuelp: you see the graphics in flash? or images? |
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| 18:46.19 | emmanuelp | yes I see the graphics |
| 18:46.21 | HyperZid | I got this pci chipset.. which driver should I choose in the 2.6.x kernel config?: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82) |
| 18:46.26 | emmanuelp | or images from google analytics |
| 18:46.29 | emmanuelp | but no text at all |
| 18:46.33 | abrotman | you shoulnd't really have to choose any driver for that |
| 18:46.41 | dusk | emmanuelp: the newest version of firefox automatically installs/configures flash for you |
| 18:46.45 | abrotman | HyperZid: discover should find it and load the driver .. why do you ask ? |
| 18:47.00 | emmanuelp | I haev 1.06 on testing |
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| 18:47.05 | dusk | emmanuelp: (not deer park, 1.07, although DP probably does it to, I dunno, I dont use it) |
| 18:47.30 | dusk | emmanuelp: try upgrading to 1.07 |
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| 18:47.58 | emmanuelp | ok |
| 18:48.00 | doido123 | ola |
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| 18:48.57 | HyperZid | stew: I said I need "generic IDE support"... I do got it.. but its impossible to choose "generic/default IDE chipset support" as "*" (compiled in) |
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| 18:49.04 | HyperZid | steve, you said* |
| 18:49.22 | secher | Is there a "general" frontend for debconf? |
| 18:49.33 | triumph | where does debian cache the files that one downloads through apt / synaptic? |
| 18:49.33 | HyperZid | stew, same goes with: Generic PCI IDE Chipset Support |
| 18:49.35 | stew | HyperZid: that means something that IDE depends on is configured as a module |
| 18:49.37 | caphuso | secher: dpkg-reconfigure |
| 18:49.39 | doido123 | e ai brown |
| 18:49.40 | abrotman | secher: front end to what ? |
| 18:49.40 | shenny | thdgthdg |
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| 18:50.09 | emmanuelp | same things with 1.07.1 |
| 18:50.10 | abrotman | shenny: english please |
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| 18:50.27 | HyperZid | stew, what should I do then?. use initrd? |
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| 18:50.56 | HyperZid | stew: PCI IDE chipset support <-- is compiled into the kernel |
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| 18:51.08 | stew | HyperZid: initrd or figure out which option is stopping you from compiling your IDE driver into the kernel |
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| 18:52.17 | secher | caphuso, abrotman I think I've narrowed my fontconfig problems down to something to do with debconf. I've never run it before, and the manpage for debconf says use -frontend=type, so I'm wondering what that means. |
| 18:52.27 | secher | it being debconf |
| 18:52.37 | HyperZid | stew, ok.. thanks. think I found it out.. |
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| 18:53.01 | caphuso | secher: it means: choose which frontend to use for user interaction |
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| 18:53.24 | HyperZid | stew: is this right choice?: Intel PIIXn chipsets support .. from lspci: PCI bridge: Intel Corp. 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE Host-to-AGP Bridge (rev 02) |
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| 18:53.33 | abrotman | secher: Dialog is probably the safest .. |
| 18:53.48 | caphuso | secher: there are a few... dialog, readline, editor, kde, web, ... |
| 18:53.48 | HyperZid | This driver adds explicit support for Intel PIIX and ICH chips |
| 18:53.53 | dusk | i know I should wait for gravity, but anyone here know enough about xorg and fglrx to know why whenever i use the fglrx driver, I can only achieve 1024x rez (even when I turn off DDC) |
| 18:54.05 | HyperZid | it says PIIX.. not PIIXn.. |
| 18:54.06 | stew | HyperZid: it depends on what chipset your IDE controller has |
| 18:54.11 | abrotman | dusk: that's all your monitor supports ? |
| 18:54.18 | abrotman | dusk: maybe ask #ati |
| 18:54.24 | dusk | abrotman: naw, I do 1280 |
| 18:54.29 | stew | HyperZid: your PCI / AGP bridge has nothing to do with ide |
| 18:54.34 | dusk | abrotman: heh, been in there for 2 days waiting patiently now :) |
| 18:54.50 | abrotman | dusk: just because windows does .. doesn't mean the linux driver can |
| 18:54.51 | HyperZid | stew: IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) UltraATA-100 IDE Controller |
| 18:55.00 | HyperZid | stew, sorry.. is that right? |
| 18:55.06 | stew | HyperZid: yes that is PIIX |
| 18:55.11 | HyperZid | ok.. good |
| 18:55.13 | dusk | abrotman: i had it working on this monitor with a previous installation of debian and fglrx |
| 18:55.24 | secher | caphuso, abrotman I see... I was misreading it. debconf is called to configure individual packages, not as a general system configuration. So I still need to know what package is broken. |
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| 18:55.35 | abrotman | secher: yes |
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| 18:56.21 | secher | Does anyone know what package is configured to create the file: 20-debconf-sub-pixel.conf? |
| 18:56.32 | secher | Oh, apt-file. lemme try that |
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| 18:57.57 | caphuso | secher: it's generated by the debconf scripts in the fontconfig package |
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| 18:58.17 | eliteforce | i got a mail by logcheck and i dont know what that means: sshd[26670]: Address 63.211.110.162 maps to unknown.level3.n |
| 18:58.20 | eliteforce | et, but this does not map back to the address - POSSIBLE BREAKIN ATTEMPT! |
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| 18:58.52 | ciaron | does debian support upnp? |
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| 18:59.02 | Spec | does linux? |
| 18:59.03 | dondelelcaro | eliteforce: it just means that someone's address reverses to a different address than it forwards to. |
| 18:59.03 | secher | caphuso: so if I use debconf to reconfigure fontconfig, it should create that file? |
| 18:59.13 | caphuso | secher: depends on your answers |
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| 18:59.22 | dusk | caphuso: the answer the 'cheese' |
| 18:59.26 | dondelelcaro | 1.2.3.4->foo.com->1.2.3.5 |
| 18:59.28 | stew | eliteforce: "host 63.211.110.162" returns unknown.level3.net, but "host unknown.level3.net" doesn't return 63.211.110.162 |
| 18:59.28 | asg | eliteforce: unknown.level3.net is a CNAME for www.leve3.com |
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| 19:00.02 | Spec | so who here is compiling a kernel right now? |
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| 19:00.33 | Spec | i need to know why CONFIG_STAIRMASTER=y isn't working |
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| 19:00.43 | eliteforce | dondelelcaro, stew, asg: what has that to do with sshd? |
| 19:00.45 | Acehigh | sup everyone |
| 19:00.49 | asg | Spec: that was a joke. I hope you realize that |
| 19:01.05 | Spec | asg: yes, i'm actually just waiting for my kernel to compile...i'm pretty bored -.- |
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| 19:01.26 | asg | eliteforce: sshd will try to reverse lookup hosts. The reverse lookup failed to return correct information. |
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| 19:01.46 | stew | eliteforce: as far as sshd is concerned this looks suspiciously like the user from 63.211.110.162 that is sshing to your box might be trying to conceal his identity |
| 19:02.06 | Acehigh | got a question on the ia64 boot cd set, I am currently trying to install debian on my desktop and using the ia64 set and when it goes to the boot cd option of my motherboard it wont load the cd any ideas? |
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| 19:02.38 | eliteforce | hmm do you also get lots of login tries from unknown ips with users like admin, oracle, test, guest, ...? |
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| 19:02.54 | amorphix | hi |
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| 19:03.01 | caphuso | eliteforce: script kiddies trying to break in |
| 19:03.03 | asg | eliteforce: yes, those are bots looking for vulnerable accounts |
| 19:03.08 | stew | eliteforce: yeah, everyone does |
| 19:03.13 | eliteforce | cool :) |
| 19:03.19 | hever | Hello there. Whats about running 32Bit and 64Bit programs parallel? |
| 19:03.32 | asg | stew: well, if you use port knocking you don't |
| 19:03.32 | PerfDave | hever: What about it? |
| 19:03.36 | blondie | eliteforce: I suggest you restrict your SSH access, certainly to non-root |
| 19:03.41 | PerfDave | hever: You probably want to talk to #debian-amd64 |
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| 19:03.56 | stew | asg: port knocking won't stop the login tries :) |
| 19:03.57 | hever | Are there Problems and what is the easiest way to do it ? |
| 19:04.02 | eliteforce | blondie: ok, thx |
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| 19:04.05 | asg | stew: no but they won't show up in your log |
| 19:04.10 | secher | hever I like parallel, symmetry appeals to my sensibilities. |
| 19:04.15 | stew | yeah, i know |
| 19:04.15 | caphuso | stew: yes, but it'll stop them from ever accessing sshd |
| 19:04.21 | evilkenshin | what is the command to access my xfree86 config options? |
| 19:04.24 | amorphix | is there a battery status taskbar icon thingy for kde? |
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| 19:04.28 | PerfDave | !drxx evilkenshin |
| 19:04.31 | dpkg | evilkenshin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 19:04.32 | blondie | kde is illegal |
| 19:04.51 | PerfDave | amorphix: Yes ;) |
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| 19:04.55 | amorphix | hehe |
| 19:04.56 | caphuso | 2005-11-21 07:01:16,279 INFO: SSH: 62.100.56.8 has 5 login failure(s). Banned. |
| 19:04.57 | caphuso | 2005-11-21 07:01:16,279 WARNING: SSH: Ban 62.100.56.8 |
| 19:04.57 | asg | blondie: that's LSD |
| 19:05.02 | asg | caphuso: :) |
| 19:05.06 | blondie | oh right |
| 19:05.07 | blondie | :P |
| 19:05.10 | PerfDave | amorphix: apt-cache search kde battery |
| 19:05.18 | amorphix | thanks PerfDave |
| 19:05.51 | nvz | you leet mofo |
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| 19:06.20 | nvz | caphuso: where do you set that up in PAM? |
| 19:06.31 | caphuso | nvz: i don't. it's fail2ban |
| 19:06.46 | nvz | caphuso: hmm? what the fuck is fail2ban? |
| 19:06.52 | rw-rw-r-- | Anyone know of any information or that can point me to a URL to get information on my input line getting all screwy if I have an X terminal window open more than 80 characters? (lines start moving up the screen as I type, etc.) |
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| 19:07.04 | caphuso | nvz: a piece of software. a package name. something you can apt-cache s{earch,how} |
| 19:07.28 | nvz | caphuso: ah |
| 19:07.41 | rw-rw-r-- | nvz: I'll add you to my group. ;) |
| 19:07.43 | nvz | !info fail2ban |
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| 19:07.49 | nvz | doesnt seem to be in sarge |
| 19:07.59 | caphuso | nvz: possible |
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| 19:08.31 | nvz | caphuso: is it just for ssh or anything authenticating against PAM? or does it even have anything to do with PAM? |
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| 19:08.51 | caphuso | nvz: it reads the /var/log/*, that's all |
| 19:09.05 | stew | nvz: "Currently, by default supports ssh/apache but configuration can be easily extended for scanning the other ASCII log files" |
| 19:09.07 | caphuso | so it doesn't matter if PAM is involved or not |
| 19:09.09 | jamuraa | is there any webserver in debian which has large file support? |
| 19:09.14 | nvz | caphuso: what does it work with when reading the logs? ban via iptables? |
| 19:09.29 | xfan | whats "large file support" ? |
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| 19:09.42 | jamuraa | xfan: support for files larger than @GB |
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| 19:09.44 | jamuraa | err 2GB |
| 19:09.52 | caphuso | nvz: or any other command line firewall tool |
| 19:09.56 | jbroome | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.08 | rw-rw-r-- | You really shouldn't execute unknown binaries. ;) |
| 19:10.15 | xfan | apache ? |
| 19:10.30 | jamuraa | xfan: nope |
| 19:10.36 | nvz | caphuso: ah, cool. so its just a real simple tool to analyize logs and setup firewall rules.. like a light-weight single-purpose IDS I guess |
| 19:10.43 | jamuraa | doesn't even list files larger than 2GB In it's directory listings |
| 19:10.54 | xfan | xitami ? |
| 19:11.27 | caphuso | nvz: it's conceptually simple. but it's written in python... |
| 19:11.39 | rw-rw-r-- | So does anyone have any ideas? I can't even seem to figure out what to type into google to get what I'm looking for. :S |
| 19:12.00 | asg | nvz: you can also look at 'sec' for roll-yer-own event correlation / action |
| 19:12.07 | wouterrr | whats the default place |
| 19:12.11 | jamuraa | xfan: unless the package is named something else.. I can't find xitami |
| 19:12.11 | blondie | rw-rw-r--: try ctrl-L |
| 19:12.14 | wouterrr | where all the modules are defined who should get loaded |
| 19:12.19 | bbrazil | rw-rw-r--: two things - reset and TERM=$TERM |
| 19:12.23 | wouterrr | ./etc/modules |
| 19:12.24 | wouterrr | isn't |
| 19:12.25 | asg | wouterrr: /etc/modules |
| 19:12.28 | nvz | caphuso: I dont see it in my cache.. so I doubt I will play with it anytime soon.. if its python though I can probably grab it from another tree without any worries. |
| 19:12.40 | xfan | there isnt a debian package |
| 19:12.43 | blondie | wouterrr: /etc/modules not ./etc/modules |
| 19:12.43 | blondie | :P |
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| 19:12.53 | wouterrr | debian loads like, 30 modules, i don't need one of them. is it in the initrd image ? |
| 19:12.58 | wouterrr | guess blondie is real blond |
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| 19:13.06 | blondie | guess again |
| 19:13.06 | F-Lelo | Wich smtp/pop would you guys recomend for small trafic email system? |
| 19:13.08 | stew | wouterrr: /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 19:13.10 | caphuso | nvz: yeah. Depends: python, iptables |
| 19:13.15 | blondie | F-Lelo: use imap not pop3 |
| 19:13.21 | nvz | asg: yeah I figure it can be adapted to do a lot more.. then you would probably have to change the name of the project.. heh I dont think it was intended to be a full traffic analyizing ids |
| 19:13.33 | asg | nvz: yeah |
| 19:13.34 | xfan | jamuraa: http://www.xitami.com |
| 19:13.39 | caphuso | hrm, it should probably recommend iptables |
| 19:13.41 | F-Lelo | blondie: ok, I re-state my question with imap then :) |
| 19:13.53 | wouterrr | thanks you. |
| 19:13.57 | wouterrr | s/thanks/thank |
| 19:14.01 | asg | F-Lelo: exim and courier-pop3 or courier-imap |
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| 19:14.06 | stew | !blacklist is also on etch or sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
| 19:14.06 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:14.10 | F-Lelo | Thanks blondie and asg |
| 19:14.21 | asg | F-Lelo: those are pretty standard and easy to set up. postfix + courier-* are also known useful combinations |
| 19:14.32 | rw-rw-r-- | reset and CTRL-L don't help -- it seems to be some other issue. |
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| 19:14.33 | blondie | yeah courier |
| 19:14.43 | nvz | oh well I am going to take a ride on the bike.. go see some friends and exercize a few large pizza's off my ass :P |
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| 19:14.52 | blondie | you ass? |
| 19:14.57 | F-Lelo | I have one mail server running. The machine is not keeping up so we bought another one. Now I need to recover those emails on that machine. Is that a ahrd thing to do? |
| 19:15.01 | nvz | blondie: thats where they go isnt it? |
| 19:15.01 | blondie | you shouldn't feed pizza to such animals |
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| 19:15.21 | blondie | that was a joke about american spell of arse :| |
| 19:15.34 | asg | F-Lelo: it depends on how they are stored. If you use mbox or maildir, easily. If it's some proprietary or opaque mailspool, then YMMV |
| 19:15.34 | nvz | heh |
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| 19:15.54 | F-Lelo | asg: it's on /var/spool/mail ... in simple text |
| 19:16.08 | asg | F-Lelo: then it should be easily moved like any file(s) |
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| 19:16.33 | F-Lelo | asg: If I install a webmail system, will it use those emails too, or he'll just start with new ones? |
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| 19:17.01 | bizkit | :o |
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| 19:17.22 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: Webmail systems usually talk to IMAP servers. Some IMAP servers use the system mail spools, some don't. |
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| 19:17.31 | stew | F-Lelo: if you imap server can see the old messages your webmail will be able to |
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| 19:17.59 | F-Lelo | cool... thanks PerfDave and stew ... so if I use exim it will see the system mail spools? |
| 19:18.02 | PerfDave | Then again, for IMAP I use cyrus which keeps its own mailstore, so you'd have to redeliver the mail in the system spools to cyrus, which shouldn't be hard. |
| 19:18.06 | F-Lelo | *will it |
| 19:18.13 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: exim is not an IMAP server, nor a webmail application. |
| 19:18.17 | blondie | exim delivers mail |
| 19:18.25 | blondie | it'll PUT stuff in /va/mail |
| 19:18.25 | F-Lelo | hmm... so what should I use? |
| 19:18.26 | blondie | +r |
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| 19:18.41 | blondie | you need an MTA (SMTP program) plus pop3/imap/webmail |
| 19:18.47 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: exim is an MTA. By default, it will put mail it recieves in /var/spool/mail in mailbox format. |
| 19:18.53 | PerfDave | blondie: exim is an MTA |
| 19:19.04 | blondie | PerfDave: yes? |
| 19:19.24 | PerfDave | For webmail, I use exim (to deliver mail to cyrus), cyrus (to store mail and make it accessible over IMAP) and Squirrelmail (to provide a web interface to IMAP) |
| 19:19.30 | PerfDave | But cyrus is not exactly easy. |
| 19:19.33 | blondie | not sure why you told me that. |
| 19:19.45 | F-Lelo | PerfDave: Nice, that's what I'm looking for :) |
| 19:19.48 | PerfDave | blondie: Sorry, you seemed to be suggesting that it wasn't. |
| 19:19.55 | F-Lelo | easy or not, here I go hehehehehe |
| 19:19.56 | blondie | erm nope |
| 19:20.22 | stew | blondie: that's how i took it too |
| 19:20.37 | blondie | what? |
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| 19:21.18 | F-Lelo | If I scp user@otherserver:/var/mail/* :/var/mail/ -- will cyrus make it available to my imap server? |
| 19:21.23 | pack | anyone know what would cause a local mirror to all of a sudden start spitting out bad header messages when i tryed to apt-get update against it? |
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| 19:21.38 | stew | F-Lelo: cyrus is an imap server |
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| 19:22.24 | F-Lelo | ok ok ok ok ... hehehe let's make it easier... |
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| 19:22.37 | pack | stew cyrus makes imap pop and smtp daemons |
| 19:22.39 | bizkit | F-Lelo: for an easy system. just use the courier suite it has everything you need. perhaps you can use squirrelmail instead of the included webmail (if i remeber right, the courier suite has a webmail, too) |
| 19:22.50 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: You don't want to scp mail. You'll overwrite things on the desination system, and there may be locking issues. |
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| 19:23.01 | F-Lelo | if I have a /var/spool/mail full with my clients emails, what can I do to not lose those mails and set up a new webmail system in another machine? |
| 19:23.05 | F-Lelo | that's it! hehehe |
| 19:23.07 | bizkit | F-Lelo: mta is included, imap, pop3, everything via ssl too etc. |
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| 19:23.26 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: Write a script to deliver mail to the new system, would be my suggestion |
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| 19:23.41 | stew | does cyrus support mbox? |
| 19:23.53 | bizkit | F-Lelo: you should search for a goot convert tool and use Maildir/ now |
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| 19:24.04 | bizkit | F-Lelo: however, it's up to you ;) |
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| 19:24.12 | bizkit | s/goot/good/ |
| 19:24.15 | F-Lelo | PerfDave: they won't be functioning a the same time. I'll get the other HD that has /var/spool/mail and put it on the new server... |
| 19:24.18 | F-Lelo | hehe got it? |
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| 19:24.59 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: You don't necessarily want your mail in mailbox format. Most IMAP servers use Maildir. |
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| 19:25.30 | kindn3ss | good day |
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| 19:25.35 | kindn3ss | how're you people? |
| 19:25.38 | F-Lelo | PerfDave: sure, no problem there.. I can use Maildir... but whe I mean is, will I be able to recover those emails on /var/spool/mail of the other HD and use it on IMAP later on? |
| 19:25.46 | F-Lelo | that's my only problem hehehe |
| 19:25.54 | kindn3ss | how can I play my video file? |
| 19:26.00 | blondie | F-Lelo: yes |
| 19:26.05 | Ronin | kindn3ss: with a video player of course |
| 19:26.07 | LoRez | F-Lelo: there's an mbox->maildir utility out there somewhere. |
| 19:26.16 | F-Lelo | oh, ok then |
| 19:26.18 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: You should be able to do so, but probably not just by copying them. |
| 19:26.18 | F-Lelo | thanks all :) |
| 19:26.25 | F-Lelo | I'll search for it |
| 19:26.29 | F-Lelo | thanks :) |
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| 19:26.32 | jamuraa | xfan: that's not exactly in debian. If I was going to compile something, I would recompile apache with large file support. :P |
| 19:26.50 | kindn3ss | i have a wmv file and I can't watch on i.t |
| 19:26.51 | kindn3ss | :-( |
| 19:26.54 | kindn3ss | Ronin, |
| 19:27.09 | kindn3ss | do you think that your answer is a purpoly one? |
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| 19:27.37 | Ronin | purpoly? |
| 19:27.37 | PerfDave | I don't think that Ronin's answer was purply, but I strip colour codes. |
| 19:27.54 | kindn3ss | properly |
| 19:27.59 | kindn3ss | sorry for my fast typing |
| 19:28.00 | kindn3ss | :-) |
| 19:28.02 | jelly | On an existing reiserfs, can I unmount and remount with notail option? |
| 19:28.07 | Ronin | kindn3ss: sure it was a proper response |
| 19:28.16 | kindn3ss | for you maybe, not for me. |
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| 19:28.46 | tonix | hi guys, i know that this is not the right chat to ask for my problem, but no solutions seems to be out there on google on my doubt... is there a atoi() function in gcc to convert int to string? thanks in advance |
| 19:28.50 | Ronin | well all you asked was how do i play a video file so with that little information theres not much more we could have said :) |
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| 19:28.54 | emmanuelp | hi |
| 19:28.56 | kindn3ss | ok ... anyone else who's willing of giving me any good advice. How can I play my video file ... I have some video players but ... it seems that I need something more. What could that something more be? |
| 19:29.09 | blondie | codecs |
| 19:29.19 | emmanuelp | does anyone has the same problem thatn me where Firefox and Flash display graphics only but no text |
| 19:29.21 | fevel | I just installed etch, how do I burn mpg and avi so they play on dvd?? |
| 19:29.24 | kindn3ss | where can I take those codecs from ... for linux? |
| 19:29.25 | Ronin | what blondie said kindn3ss |
| 19:29.31 | fevel | is that possible in debian?? |
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| 19:29.38 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: Playing WMV is a black art even in Windows, let alone Linux. Installing win32codecs from Marillat may help, but may be illegal where you live. |
| 19:29.46 | emmanuelp | every flash movie give me the same problem |
| 19:29.51 | jelly | tonix: not in gcc but there is one on your debian system in the c library. |
| 19:29.54 | emmanuelp | I cannot only see the graphics |
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| 19:29.59 | emmanuelp | but never any text |
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| 19:30.14 | F-Lelo | what packages do I need to run perl files? |
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| 19:30.18 | blondie | "perl" |
| 19:30.22 | maxweber_ | kindn3ss: check the faq section on the homepage of the player you want to use (learn to help yourself ;-) |
| 19:30.23 | kindn3ss | I do live in Europe, Romania. Soon I'll leave in the States. Do you PerfDave think that in states it is forbidden as well? |
| 19:30.25 | jelly | tonix: atoi would be string -> integer, not integer -> string though. |
| 19:30.29 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: Yes |
| 19:30.36 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: You will already have Perl installed on your Debian system |
| 19:30.38 | kindn3ss | than ... I won't install it ... |
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| 19:30.46 | blondie | kindn3ss: depends if you care |
| 19:30.57 | tonix | jelly: sorry, you're right, i mean itoa() |
| 19:30.57 | F-Lelo | yes but it gives me an error... Can't locate Date/Parse.pm |
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| 19:31.05 | stew | emmanuelp: my wife was having that problem even though i wasn't practically identical laptops/software, it just eventually went away and i never figured out why |
| 19:31.08 | tonix | jelly: but what is the function in gcc? |
| 19:31.08 | kindn3ss | that's why I try to quit with WinXp ... having kubuntu ... which is totally free (unless ... you know people ...) |
| 19:31.08 | blondie | F-Lelo: you need different modules for some perl scripts |
| 19:31.20 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: If you're using kubuntu, talk to #ubuntu |
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| 19:31.29 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: That doesn't mean that you don't have perl installed, it means that you don't have the Date::Parse module installed. |
| 19:31.29 | emmanuelp | I have taht with debian testing and ubuntu as well at home |
| 19:31.41 | emmanuelp | I installed a lot of fonts but still have the problem |
| 19:31.41 | stew | emmanuelp: someone here said that installing gsfonts-x11 fixed it for him, but i don't believe it |
| 19:31.43 | F-Lelo | PerfDave: ok thanks =) |
| 19:31.49 | jelly | tonix: sprintf maybe? |
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| 19:32.46 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: Try searching for Date::Parse as a Debian package, or installing it with dh-make-perl |
| 19:32.47 | kindn3ss | PerfDave, ... why those cotexs you said about are illegal? |
| 19:32.59 | secher | I've made progress, I think. running debconf fontconfig, I get returned >> Can't exec "fontconfig": No such file or directory at /usr/share/perl/5.8/IPC/Open3.pm line 168. << and >> open2: exec of fontconfig failed at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Confmodule.pm line 44. <continued> |
| 19:33.07 | emmanuelp | thanks! it actually worked :) |
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| 19:33.20 | emmanuelp | I am seeing the fonts now and text |
| 19:33.21 | emmanuelp | :) |
| 19:33.22 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: Software patents |
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| 19:33.47 | secher | From looking at the script, it's trying to run "fontconfig" and can't find it, but there is no "fontconfig" executable, afaik. ideas? |
| 19:34.18 | kindn3ss | thanks PerfDave . god bless you. |
| 19:34.24 | PerfDave | secher: Find a fontconfig executable |
| 19:34.41 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: But if you're using Ubuntu, things may be different, so ask #ubuntu. #debian isn't about Ubuntu, it's about Debian. |
| 19:35.04 | kindn3ss | k, but ... kubuntu doesn't use the debian kernel? |
| 19:35.14 | F-Lelo | PerfDave: libtimedate-perl was the right package. Thanks man! :) |
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| 19:35.21 | PerfDave | kindn3ss: Ubuntu is something different from Debian. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. |
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| 19:35.24 | emmanuelp | thanks Stew |
| 19:35.36 | blondie | the debian kernel? |
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| 19:35.37 | stew | emmanuelp: did that actually work!? |
| 19:35.40 | blondie | it's the linux kernel |
| 19:35.41 | kindn3ss | understand ... PerfDave . |
| 19:35.42 | emmanuelp | yes it did |
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| 19:35.54 | emmanuelp | now I can see everything |
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| 19:35.59 | kindn3ss | blondie, it is not about the debian kernel, it os only about being base don it ... on Debian. ;) |
| 19:36.00 | PerfDave | blondie: I think he means "kernel" as in "the heart of the system" rather than "the OS kernel" |
| 19:36.01 | jelly | steve: that gsfonts-x11 package sure does mighty font magic! |
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| 19:36.08 | kindn3ss | wrong expression |
| 19:36.10 | stew | i'm baffled. becuase when it was working on mine and not on hers i didn't have such a pacakge, and what would flash have to do with ghostscript |
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| 19:36.27 | resiak | Oh, this is the magical "make Flash work" thing! |
| 19:36.33 | emmanuelp | strange that it is not installed by default as it seems to be necessary for most flash movies |
| 19:36.35 | blondie | PerfDave: I'd say the OS kernel WAS the heart of the system ;) |
| 19:36.42 | blondie | (or perhaps the brain...) |
| 19:36.46 | stew | !no text in flash is if you can see images but not text in flash, try installing gsfonts-x11 |
| 19:36.46 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:36.50 | jelly | emmanuelp: now try removing it and see if it still works! |
| 19:36.51 | PerfDave | blondie: What about the GNU libraries? ;p |
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| 19:37.02 | resiak | emmanuelp: It's Recommended: by flashplugin-nonfree, because you can _use_ fp-nf without it :) |
| 19:37.09 | varsendagger | how do i add services to a new usere? |
| 19:37.13 | varsendagger | user? |
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| 19:37.26 | emmanuelp | resiak: I did install the flashplugin-nonfree and did not come with it |
| 19:37.31 | PerfDave | varsendagger: What do you mean? What are you trying to do? |
| 19:37.40 | emmanuelp | it should be not only suggested |
| 19:37.42 | varsendagger | u wbat to add audio |
| 19:37.42 | resiak | emmanuelp: Like I just said, fp-nf recommends it, but does not depend on it. |
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| 19:37.54 | resiak | emmanuelp: Oh, suggested is weaker than recommends |
| 19:37.57 | secher | Hrmm. trying to figure out a way to locate fontconfig and do a file on it to determine executableness....... open to suggestions. |
| 19:38.14 | stew | and like i said, i never have needed that font package for flash to work on my machine |
| 19:38.19 | resiak | emmanuelp: Feel free to file a bug, but the dep is valid: it works without gsfonts-x11, so should not depend on it. |
| 19:38.23 | jelly | !tell secher about apt-file |
| 19:38.24 | emmanuelp | jelly: let me try to remove it amd see |
| 19:38.27 | valdyn_ | !find bin/fontconfig |
| 19:38.30 | HyperZid | stew, not i've added my IDE device and filesystem drivers to be compiled into the kernel |
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| 19:38.42 | HyperZid | stew, still something is wrong:\ |
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| 19:39.01 | F-Lelo | I installed bitchx on a pc now that I try to uninstall it I receive an error. so everything I try to install it gives me the bitchx uninstall error and won't install... what can I do to fix that? |
| 19:39.05 | emmanuelp | Yea, I see why.. it work without it but it is kinda of necessary in most cases when you have text. It does not break but does not diplay everything |
| 19:39.12 | abrotman | F-Lelo: tell us the error |
| 19:39.13 | tonix | thanks jelly! |
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| 19:40.16 | secher | jelly: in what way does that help me? apt-file does not determine executableness. |
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| 19:40.27 | emmanuelp | where can I file the bug? |
| 19:40.28 | secher | executability? |
| 19:40.28 | eliteforce | what is the 'KeepAlive' option in sshd_config for? |
| 19:40.40 | F-Lelo | abrotman: only says error processing bitchx (--remove) and that it coudn't remove a file cause it gave the error permission denied |
| 19:40.47 | valdyn_ | secher: an executable 'fontconfig' does not exist in debian |
| 19:40.55 | abrotman | F-Lelo: no .. the actual error .. not "something like " |
| 19:40.58 | jelly | secher: sorry, I thought you were also looking for the file itself. |
| 19:41.00 | HyperZid | can anyone tell me what I need to install initrd.. so I dont need all modules compiled into the kernel anymore? |
| 19:41.18 | abrotman | !tell HyperZid about kp |
| 19:41.20 | resiak | HyperZid: Add --initrd to your invocation of make-kpkg |
| 19:41.34 | secher | valdyn_, I thought so. then why is this damn perl script trying to exec fontconfig??? |
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| 19:41.48 | resiak | secher: Why not ask the kids who wrote it? |
| 19:42.15 | secher | jelly: Kk.. sorry if I was short, just frustrated. |
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| 19:42.37 | F-Lelo | well, how do I delete something if it says permission denied when I'm root? o_o |
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| 19:42.44 | jelly | secher: I _think_ this was changed sometime after sarge, and the "fontconfig" binary existed at some moment? |
| 19:42.44 | stew | HyperZid: if you want initrd just pass --initrd into make-kpkg |
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| 19:42.46 | secher | kaiser: cause I don't think it's the script itself, I think it's getting passed fontconfig as an executable. |
| 19:42.54 | PerfDave | F-Lelo: What are you trying to delete? |
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| 19:42.59 | soymilk | you should accept your height as natural |
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| 19:43.05 | F-Lelo | bitchx's scripts |
| 19:43.16 | F-Lelo | if I do ls -l on them, it says Permission denied |
| 19:43.18 | PerfDave | varsendagger: "adduser audio username" as root |
| 19:43.20 | jelly | secher: or maybe the script is just buggy and is missing an argument somewhere. |
| 19:43.21 | F-Lelo | if I try to delete them, the same... |
| 19:43.26 | secher | jelly: really! well, at least that's a place to start. |
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| 19:43.47 | HyperZid | stew, ok. thanks! |
| 19:43.54 | abrotman | F-Lelo: how are you trying to remove bitchx ? |
| 19:44.07 | secher | jelly: That's what I think is happening, the script is getting passed info. |
| 19:44.19 | F-Lelo | abrotman: apt-get remove bitchx - since it gave me errors, rm -rf /usr/lib/bitchx |
| 19:44.19 | secher | jelly: bad info rather. |
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| 19:44.38 | F-Lelo | the error on apt was that it coudn't remove /usr/lib/bitchx/scripts/ - permission denied |
| 19:44.44 | stew | HyperZid: why are you compiling your own kernel in the first place? |
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| 19:45.08 | HyperZid | steve, because I need support for a sata 4x card |
| 19:45.12 | HyperZid | stew* |
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| 19:45.36 | Gandalfar | Can I set www-data user to be noexec? |
| 19:45.48 | Zub | helloss, how can i run the exim4 configuration program that shows up on system installation? it's not dpkg-reconfigure exim, isnt? |
| 19:45.57 | PerfDave | Zub: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 19:46.03 | skiflyer | Zub: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 19:46.06 | jelly | secher: try putting in set -x at the beginning of the script (if it's a shell script) and see what's being executed. |
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| 19:46.10 | Zub | oKtosiTe, thanks |
| 19:46.13 | Zub | argh |
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| 19:46.18 | Zub | ok thanks |
| 19:46.20 | abrotman | F-Lelo: well .. that was a piss poor idea |
| 19:46.20 | RichiH | how can i rebuild my complete /dev ? |
| 19:46.28 | abrotman | makedev ? |
| 19:46.34 | abrotman | erm .. that's not right |
| 19:46.38 | stew | MAKEDEV |
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| 19:46.47 | abrotman | MAKEDEV |
| 19:46.47 | RichiH | stew: argh, upper case |
| 19:46.47 | PerfDave | Gandalfar: What do you mean? noexec applies to partitions, not to users. |
| 19:46.47 | jelly | no need to shout ;-) |
| 19:46.47 | abrotman | duh |
| 19:46.48 | xfan | RichiH : rm -Rf /dev ? |
| 19:46.53 | RichiH | xfan: .. |
| 19:46.54 | abrotman | i knew lower case wasn't right :) |
| 19:47.00 | ixnay | hi all |
| 19:47.02 | Gandalfar | PerfDave: right, but can I limit certain user from executing files? |
| 19:47.06 | xfan | RichiH : and reboot |
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| 19:47.15 | dondelelcaro | Gandalfar: just don't give them +rx to those files. |
| 19:47.18 | abrotman | RichiH: i'm not sure if you're aware of this .. Unix is case-sensitive :) |
| 19:47.25 | secher | jelly: it's not the script. I just tried "debconf blah" and got the same error, so I'm pissing up the wrong tree. |
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| 19:47.36 | stew | RichiH: if a command doesn't work, try shouting it |
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| 19:47.42 | RichiH | abrotman: hrhr |
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| 19:47.46 | ixnay | i ve got one questtion :) if i type apt-get distr upgrade , the kernel will be upgraded too? |
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| 19:47.55 | RichiH | stew: heh |
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| 19:48.00 | PerfDave | ixnay: Maybe |
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| 19:48.02 | eliteforce | whenever i send my db backups with that command: `metasend -b -t "$TO" -s "$SUBJ" -m application/x-bzip -f "$DIR$DATE.sql.bz2"` i have to rename the attachement after i recieved the mail, why? |
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| 19:48.03 | dondelelcaro | xfan: please stop giving incorrect advice, even if it is only in jest... |
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| 19:48.18 | ixnay | perfdave: maybe? |
| 19:48.22 | RichiH | i am klining them |
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| 19:49.09 | PerfDave | ixnay: Depending on what packages you have installed, and what apt sources you have, maybe. |
| 19:49.09 | abrotman | wtf |
| 19:49.09 | karsten | !beer RichiH |
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| 19:49.10 | RichiH | :) |
| 19:49.11 | abrotman | !beer RichiH |
| 19:49.11 | stew | ixnay: only if a newer version of the same kernel package you have installed is available in your sources, like it would upgrade from 2.6.8-2 to a newer 2.6.8-2 but not to a 2.6.8-3 or 2.6.12 |
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| 19:49.19 | abrotman | kill! |
| 19:49.22 | xfan | dondelelcaro : im not sure, but i think this is posible mode to re-built the /dev/ folder |
| 19:49.26 | secher | excquisite?????? |
| 19:49.32 | ixnay | dave: 4 example 'unstable' in sources list... and if now i type distr upgrade ? will the kernel be upgraded? |
| 19:49.35 | HyperZid | stew, what ide modules do I Need to have compiled into the kernel? |
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| 19:49.46 | dondelelcaro | xfan: it is possible, but deleting it serves not, as you well know. |
| 19:49.49 | abrotman | secher: dondelelcaro has a spelling bug .. I filed it RC .. but no fix yet |
| 19:49.52 | jelly | secher: eh. I'm not a DD, but have made small local .debs and have found debugging debconf can be a PITA. |
| 19:49.56 | stew | PIIX |
| 19:50.02 | stew | HyperZid:^^^ |
| 19:50.08 | PerfDave | ixnay: Depending on what packages you have installed, whether new packages are available with the same name and higher versions. |
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| 19:50.38 | PerfDave | ixnay: If you want to have the latest kernel package installed, try installing kernel-image-2.6-$ARCH |
| 19:50.39 | ixnay | dave: i'm asking about the kernel |
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| 19:50.43 | sewi | how to install nvidia drivers on my own compiled kernel 2.6.14.2? |
| 19:50.44 | eliteforce | whenever i send my db backups with that command: `metasend -b -t "$TO" -s "$SUBJ" -m application/x-bzip -f "$DIR$DATE.sql.bz2"` i have to rename the attachement after i recieved the mail, why? is the mime type wrong? |
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| 19:51.14 | ixnay | dave: 4 exapmple "apt-get install kernel-image-2.6" |
| 19:51.16 | PerfDave | ixnay: The kernel is a package like any other |
| 19:51.17 | ixnay | ??? |
| 19:51.26 | Ungy | OK anyone know any tutorials for policy routing? |
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| 19:51.39 | PerfDave | ixnay: No, because there's no such package. /msg dpkg search |
| 19:51.39 | stew | sewi: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 19:51.56 | jelly | abrotman: how did you file a bug for donedelcaro?! :-) |
| 19:52.03 | Spec | yay, i got my kernel down to 2.3 megs, instead of 3.5 megs :o) |
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| 19:52.14 | warreng | anybody run webmin on sarge? |
| 19:52.16 | abrotman | jelly: /msg dondelelcaro |
| 19:52.23 | eliteforce | or is there another command to send sql.bz2 files easily per mail? |
| 19:52.24 | ixnay | dave: so how can i get the 2.6 kernel? because i'm affraid i just can't recompile it by myself :( |
| 19:52.26 | PerfDave | !webmin |
| 19:52.26 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
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| 19:52.40 | stew | ixnay: what cpu do you have? what version of debian are you running? |
| 19:52.41 | PerfDave | ixnay: /msg dpkg search |
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| 19:53.14 | PerfDave | ixnay: If you don't know how to search for packages or how package updates work, what the hell are you doing running unstable? |
| 19:53.26 | eliteforce | hehe |
| 19:53.26 | ixnay | stew: i have 2300 sempron.. i have debian 3.1 with the kernel 2.4.27 |
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| 19:53.35 | stew | ixnay: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 19:53.37 | eliteforce | can anybody help me with my little mail problem? :X |
| 19:53.43 | secher | caphuso, jelly, abrotman, all of this was because libfontconfig1 was corrupt. Just on a lark, I did a reinstall of libfontconfig1, and lo and behold, end of errors. *wtf*. Thanks all for your help. |
| 19:53.55 | Spec | I learned how to compile kernels when I was 16, no one should have an excuse not to learn how to do it... |
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| 19:54.03 | ixnay | but i'm using the "unstable" repsoitory... and lots of packages are newer then they were in 3.1 debian |
| 19:54.10 | PerfDave | ixnay: Don't use unstable. |
| 19:54.12 | Nirga1 | Ungry: http://lartc.org/ maybe |
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| 19:54.23 | Spec | PerfDave: why not? is it unstable or something? |
| 19:54.24 | stew | Spec: most people should never need to |
| 19:54.26 | PerfDave | ixnay: Really, you'll just break things if you don't know what you're doing when you run unstable. |
| 19:54.28 | abrotman | secher: do you know why .. you might wish to file a bug |
| 19:54.35 | Spec | stew: it's a good learning experience :) |
| 19:54.36 | PerfDave | Compiling kernels is *so* last decade ;) |
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| 19:54.54 | Ungy | thanks Nirgal |
| 19:54.55 | eliteforce | PerfDave: let him play with unstable if he wants to :P |
| 19:54.55 | PerfDave | Cutting your legs off is a good learning experience, I wouldn't recommend doing that if you don't have to either ;) |
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| 19:54.58 | abrotman | Spec: for what? ... how to waste your time ? |
| 19:55.00 | Spec | well, if you use mondo/mindi for back ups, the debian kernel doesn't work with it |
| 19:55.06 | jelly | PerfDave: yeah, tell that to people who use sarge kernels on new hardware. |
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| 19:55.15 | Spec | due to debian including cramfs support in the kernel |
| 19:55.17 | ixnay | dave: i just wanted to install the kde 3.4 |
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| 19:55.26 | Nirga1 | Ungry: btw, i got the link from "/msg dpkg tell me about routing" :) |
| 19:55.34 | ixnay | so i have changed to unstable and installed it |
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| 19:55.45 | PerfDave | ixnay: You didn't need to run unstable to do that. The fact that you thought that you did shows that you don't understand Debian very well :) |
| 19:55.48 | eliteforce | ixnay: kde3.4 can be installed on stable too i think |
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| 19:56.06 | PerfDave | ixnay: And please, use my full nick so it highlights, it makes it much easier to follow you. |
| 19:56.10 | PerfDave | jelly: What, like me? :) |
| 19:56.11 | ixnay | dave: that's true |
| 19:56.16 | Spec | yeah, you can compile kde3.4 on stable debian... O:) |
| 19:56.25 | eliteforce | :) |
| 19:56.26 | secher | abrotman: about a week ago, I had a drive error, and this was the last step in the recovery. I don't think it was the lib's fault. |
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| 19:56.31 | Gandalfar | How do I tell netstat to show me full hostname and not cut it after ~20chars? |
| 19:56.33 | PerfDave | There are 3.4 backports for Sarge |
| 19:56.37 | ixnay | dave: that's because there isn't anybody around me who can help me |
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| 19:57.15 | eliteforce | ixnay: look e.g. at this site: http://debian-desktop.org |
| 19:57.19 | warreng | okay, so webmin sucks... are there any better web-based-managers out there that don't cost money? |
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| 19:57.51 | Spec | Gandalfar: i don't know what you're talking about, but maybe ~# COLUMN=300 netstat |
| 19:57.51 | stew | ixnay: help you with what? |
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| 19:57.53 | ixnay | dave: but even if i have choosed the unstable repository - everything is working just fine |
| 19:57.54 | secher | abrotman: i had at least 3 minutes steady of fsck errors to correct as fast as I could hit y and <enter>. everything was hosed. I had to start recovery from maintenance mode, I couldn't even boot to 3 much less level 5. |
| 19:57.55 | eliteforce | warreng: web based ssh ^^ |
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| 19:58.05 | ixnay | thank you elite ;) |
| 19:58.06 | PerfDave | ixnay: And when it breaks, you won't know how to fix it. |
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| 19:58.22 | eliteforce | ixnay: hihi you're welcome |
| 19:58.22 | PerfDave | ixnay: And please, use my full nick so it highlights, it makes it much easier to follow you. |
| 19:58.30 | Gandalfar | Spec: doesn't help, when I do netstat, under Foreign address, I don't get full hostname |
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| 19:58.39 | Spec | hmm, sorry, don't know what to suggest then |
| 19:58.53 | ixnay | stew: "with understending the debian" - that's dave's words :)) |
| 19:58.58 | wouterrr | someone ever had the following when compiled a kernel: |
| 19:59.01 | wouterrr | DMI present. |
| 19:59.04 | wouterrr | and then it stops, bummer |
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| 19:59.22 | jelly | secher: you know, your runlevels 3 and 5 don't sound much like Debian <wink> |
| 19:59.23 | eliteforce | lol |
| 19:59.26 | stew | ixnay: you should start with /msg dpkg reference |
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| 19:59.36 | ixnay | perfdave: ok |
| 19:59.36 | stew | ixnay: or maybe /msg dpkg nicktab |
| 19:59.37 | secher | jelly: they don't? |
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| 19:59.55 | ixnay | stew: for what? |
| 20:00.14 | stew | ixnay: the first one for help "with understending the debian" |
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| 20:00.22 | jelly | secher: no sirree |
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| 20:00.35 | ixnay | stew: ok |
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| 20:01.00 | warreng | eliteforce: that's not really helpful... ssh is fine for me... but i'm not the only person using it |
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| 20:01.07 | warreng | is webmin insecure? or just crappy? |
| 20:01.13 | PerfDave | warreng: What are you trying to achieve with webmin? |
| 20:01.14 | Spec | both |
| 20:01.15 | PerfDave | warreng: Both! |
| 20:01.18 | Spec | i win :) |
| 20:01.18 | jelly | warreng: it's badly designed. |
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| 20:01.40 | eliteforce | ok if somebody knows how to send a bla.sql.bz2 file as email attachement over the console, let me know ;) bbl |
| 20:01.51 | warreng | i have like 20 or 30 sites that i'm basically hosting for free for family/friends... and they want to manage e-mail addresses... and ftp accounts... and what not |
| 20:01.53 | stew | warreng: iirc the current webmain maintainer doesn't want it and is having trouble giving it away which is a bad sign |
| 20:02.01 | maw | I cant get alsa to work :( |
| 20:02.01 | ixnay | stew: and the "dpkg" tab has apeared |
| 20:02.12 | maw | the modules isn't there |
| 20:02.19 | maw | *are not |
| 20:02.19 | jelly | eliteforce: using mutt: echo | mutt -a file -s "subject" recipient@ema.il |
| 20:02.34 | licued2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.37 | licued2 | and moved the data to my computer, and then burned it as a data cd |
| 20:02.43 | licued2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:02.52 | secher | jelly: oh, I use sysv init scripts. |
| 20:02.53 | licued2 | any clue? |
| 20:02.54 | PerfDave | licued2: That's because you extracted the contents and burned it as a data CD. |
| 20:03.01 | fericitu_ | how can open a few ports in debina pls |
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| 20:03.08 | PerfDave | licued2: You need to burn the image, so you get the *boot* sector as well |
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| 20:03.10 | warreng | stew: heh... well are there any control panels that would give some basic web-based functionality to debian? |
| 20:03.12 | fericitu_ | how can open a few ports in debian pls ...hlp me pls |
| 20:03.21 | PerfDave | fericitu_: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 20:03.40 | stew | warreng: i don't know |
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| 20:03.52 | warreng | i just want something where i can setup new sites and it adds virtualhosts to apache... dns records to bind.... mail records... ftp accounts.... |
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| 20:03.58 | fericitu_ | i try to open some ports ...for ex: 8549 for psy bnc |
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| 20:04.06 | fericitu_ | and 6667 for irc |
| 20:04.11 | jelly | secher: I do too, but I don't remember Debian having different configs for runlevels 3 and 5. I think all 2-5 are the same by default. |
| 20:04.13 | Spec | !iptables |
| 20:04.14 | dpkg | i guess iptables is the user-space process used to administer iptables kernel parts on top of netfilter, somewhat like ipchains was in 2.2.. NOT a virgin, see ipchains, or ask me about <netfilter docs>, or at http://netfilter.org/ or http://lartc.org/.(check it out because iptables (2.4.x) has some security holes) See also: masq, or try #iptables for help |
| 20:04.16 | maw | omfg, why is it so hard to setup alsa in debina? |
| 20:04.21 | maw | *debian |
| 20:04.21 | PerfDave | maw: It isn't. |
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| 20:04.25 | stew | fericitu_: they are firewalled? |
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| 20:04.34 | maw | PerfDave: can you help me then? |
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| 20:04.39 | PerfDave | fericitu_: You need to tell whatever firewall you have installed to let them through. |
| 20:04.40 | maw | i have apt-get it |
| 20:04.44 | Blisaed | How do I install NVIDIA drivers???? |
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| 20:04.47 | secher | jelly: I can boot to 3, for sure. I've done it several times. |
| 20:04.49 | PerfDave | Blisaed: /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 20:04.50 | stew | maw: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 20:05.02 | fericitu_ | i don't know sure ....i scanedthe host ...and i have only a few opened |
| 20:05.05 | jelly | secher: and 3 and 5 reminded me of default redhat's runlevels for multiuser and X. |
| 20:05.05 | maw | 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic |
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| 20:05.07 | stew | maw: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 20:05.09 | PerfDave | maw: Are you using a Debian 2.6 kernel-image package? |
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| 20:05.13 | Blisaed | Perf: whats /msg? |
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| 20:05.39 | stew | Blisaed: type "/msg dpkg nvidia" into your irc client, the bot will give you info |
| 20:05.42 | PerfDave | Blisaed: Try typing it into your IRC client |
| 20:05.45 | maw | PerfDave: just installed this, but I think so |
| 20:05.48 | Blisaed | oh! |
| 20:05.49 | abrotman | secher: wtf is 5 ? |
| 20:05.53 | PerfDave | maw: How did you install the kernel? |
| 20:05.56 | Blisaed | Thanks guys |
| 20:06.00 | jelly | abrotman: wtf is 3? |
| 20:06.06 | abrotman | jelly: that too :)( |
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| 20:06.20 | cat | hey can someone give me a little hand here, my X stuff are too big, fonts, applications and mozilla i'm wondering what's going on i already did apt-get remove xfonts-100dpi, and i still see applications big anyone has any idea i know it's my monitor resolution, and the monitor stuff |
| 20:06.24 | maw | PerfDave: The installation wizard installed it |
| 20:06.26 | secher | jelly: Oh, I dunno redhat, I cut my teeth on Sun OS. |
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| 20:06.35 | PerfDave | maw: "installation wizard"? |
| 20:06.43 | maw | yeah, the netinstall |
| 20:06.48 | abrotman | secher: we're not in #redhat .. and runlevel3 on Solaris is NFS run level iirc |
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| 20:06.50 | maw | No supported PnP or PCI card found. |
| 20:06.53 | PerfDave | cat: To change your resolution, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:06.56 | abrotman | or maybe that was 4 ... |
| 20:07.04 | secher | abrotman: runlevels 3 and 5 are multiuser and X respectively. |
| 20:07.08 | ixnay | dpkg is quite smart but he doesn't answered on my questions;) |
| 20:07.10 | PerfDave | maw: Do you know what soundcard you have, and whether it's supported by ALSA? |
| 20:07.10 | stew | maw: what card do you have? |
| 20:07.16 | abrotman | secher: then 4 must be NFS crap .. |
| 20:07.17 | cat | PerfDave: i did, but i'm not sure about the monitor since it was a gift |
| 20:07.21 | secher | abrotman: jelly asked, I didn't bring it up. |
| 20:07.25 | maw | I belive it's one of those intel-8x0 |
| 20:07.27 | sbk | emacs on debian question -- if I make a change to an elisp package installed via dpkg, what's the 'debian' way to regenerate the associated .elc files? |
| 20:07.28 | jelly | secher: yeah, but 5 is power-off there, isn't it? At least on Solaris 2.6+ |
| 20:07.30 | maw | or via82xx |
| 20:07.36 | stew | maw: lspci would tell you |
| 20:07.56 | maw | 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2) |
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| 20:08.17 | abrotman | jelly: afaik .. no unix uses 5 for poweroff .. |
| 20:08.26 | abrotman | by default anyways |
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| 20:08.29 | stew | maw: i don't think that is supported by alsa /msg dpkg nvsound |
| 20:08.32 | stew | abrotman: no, thats 0 |
| 20:08.33 | PerfDave | maw: That's not a promising start. Try looking on http://www.alsa-project.org/ to see if your card is supported? |
| 20:08.36 | maw | ok |
| 20:08.37 | maw | thx |
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| 20:08.50 | jelly | abrotman: I'd swear the default install of Sol8 and 9 use 5 for poweroff. Lemme check. |
| 20:08.56 | ramtha | hi |
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| 20:09.25 | maw | i810_audio or snd-intel8x0 work fine |
| 20:09.26 | secher | jelly: I forget. all I remember is that 6 is reboot, 0 is off, 3 is multiuser and 5 is X. It's been that way in my head for... close on a decade now, if not far longer... 12 years? 14 years? a while. |
| 20:09.34 | maw | but how do I install them? |
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| 20:09.57 | abrotman | jelly: nope .. that's 6 or 0 |
| 20:10.05 | ramtha | netmask 255.255.255.0 ist /24 behind subnet what ist 255.255.255.224 ? |
| 20:10.08 | ramtha | any help? |
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| 20:10.15 | ixnay | one more final question |
| 20:10.19 | maw | damn :/ |
| 20:10.24 | ixnay | how can i switch to debian.pl channel ? |
| 20:10.27 | maw | they doesn't work :( |
| 20:10.27 | abrotman | jelly: http://www.unixadm.net/solaris/run_levels_sol9.html .. maybe the changed it |
| 20:10.45 | abrotman | they |
| 20:11.08 | ctp | hi folks. how to avoid creating users with a standard shell? in gentoo i used "adduser ... -s /usr/bin/false", but /usr/bin/false doesnt exist on my sarge box. |
| 20:11.20 | abrotman | ctp: /bin/false |
| 20:11.31 | ctp | abrotman: thx ;-) |
| 20:11.31 | stew | maw: "modprobe snd-intel8x0" and sound works for you? |
| 20:11.37 | maw | nope :( |
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| 20:11.47 | jelly | secher: I dunno, I remember 3 and 5 from ye olde Redhat 5.2 or whatever it was before us students installed bo. ;-) |
| 20:11.57 | stew | maw: then what did you mean by " < maw> i810_audio or snd-intel8x0 work fine" |
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| 20:12.06 | maw | hmm, I tested it |
| 20:12.11 | maw | but it didn't work |
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| 20:12.31 | stew | maw: so by "work fine" you meant "didn't work"? |
| 20:12.34 | maw | yeah |
| 20:12.49 | stew | i don't think i'm going to bother then |
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| 20:13.15 | maw | damn :( |
| 20:13.15 | marc | ramtha: /27 |
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| 20:13.25 | maw | I hate nF cards >_> |
| 20:13.45 | wouterrr | hum |
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| 20:14.44 | licued2 | PerfDave, not sure if I understand.... what would my first step be? the first thing I did was rip an image to my HD of the orignal disk, then from the image I extraced the contents to a folder |
| 20:14.58 | maw | what should I do then? |
| 20:15.04 | resiak | licued2: In case you didn't notice, PerfDave left the channel. |
| 20:15.05 | maw | buy a new card? ;P |
| 20:15.09 | licued2 | oh :/ |
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| 20:15.20 | stew | maw: did you "/msg dpkg nvsound" yet? |
| 20:15.23 | maw | yeah |
| 20:15.37 | stew | maw: and what errors did you have with that driver? |
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| 20:15.59 | foo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:16.00 | maw | it's the intel8x0 it want me use |
| 20:16.02 | foo | Can someone help me troubleshoot this? |
| 20:16.04 | stew | oh nm |
| 20:16.22 | foo | https://notix.ath.cx/psaux.txt is what I have running. |
| 20:16.22 | dusk | hey, this is a small thing thats been buggin me, how do I update gnome so it shows my newly installed programs in the "start";p menu |
| 20:16.29 | valdyn_ | foo: troubleshoot what? |
| 20:16.40 | mike_sol | what do you folks think about the php5 stuff on dotdeb? i _don't_ want/need help with it, just want to know if they're of sufficient quality that i should bother |
| 20:17.02 | stew | maw: sorry i thought you were the one claiming snd-intel8x0 works fine |
| 20:17.06 | Bob332 | can someone tell me the diff between the regular 2.4.27 kernel and this other kernel my system got installed with,....2.4.31-bf.24 |
| 20:17.10 | foo | valdyn_: Why my load average is > 1 |
| 20:17.14 | maw | but it did not |
| 20:17.32 | stew | maw: you get errors when you try to modprobe it? |
| 20:17.47 | maw | no, but alsaconf dont want it |
| 20:17.47 | valdyn_ | foo: thats not "trouble", nothing to shoot |
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| 20:18.15 | stew | maw: if you loaded it without error, forget modconf, try to up the volume with alsamixer and play something |
| 20:18.22 | stew | s/modconf/alsaconf/ |
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| 20:18.29 | jelly | foo: could be any number of reasons. a few processes battling for I/O (disk) for example. |
| 20:18.39 | valdyn_ | foo: the output of top will display the load-causing processes on top, by default, for some cases |
| 20:18.42 | maw | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 20:18.45 | foo | valdyn_: Heh, ok ... in other words: Can you tell me what is taking up so much cpu usage or what is causing my system to go slow |
| 20:18.50 | secher | jelly, abrotman dunno.. just poking around to try and remember where those numbers came from, and I can't find it. Oh well. |
| 20:19.01 | foo | jelly: Gocha, hmm. |
| 20:19.07 | valdyn_ | foo: load by itself doesnt make your system slow |
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| 20:19.43 | mike_sol | load is good, it means you're not wasting cycles on heat :D |
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| 20:19.59 | stew | maw: and the non "snd-" version isn't loaded, right? |
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| 20:20.33 | maw | tux:~# lsmod |grep -i snd |
| 20:20.33 | maw | snd_intel8x0 34772 0 |
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| 20:20.41 | dusk | tux |
| 20:20.41 | valdyn_ | foo: you havent even told us yet, what exactly is slow, what your cpu usage % is, if your disk is scratching around all day.. etc |
| 20:20.49 | farhome | Hi, anyone using openvpn? my klient gets a weird subnetmask of 10.8.0.5. That can't be right? |
| 20:21.04 | stew | maw: time to go buy a cheap soundblaster live |
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| 20:21.11 | mike_sol | not only is it not right, it seems impossible farhome |
| 20:21.11 | maw | yeah |
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| 20:21.19 | stew | farhome: that is not a subnet mask |
| 20:21.22 | karrot-x | damn, anyone have a spare 20+ ide drive they want to send me? |
| 20:21.23 | karrot-x | :( |
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| 20:21.31 | karrot-x | sarge doesnt like my quantum fireball |
| 20:21.32 | extr3m | which of the DVD iso files should i download if i want to install debian on a laptop? |
| 20:21.35 | foo | valdyn_: Hmm, wait.. I think I may be getting confused. What is a high load average? 2 and above? |
| 20:21.46 | mike_sol | karrot-x, 20 megabytes? i think i have one of those. RLL or ST-506 or ESDI, what do you prefer |
| 20:21.47 | pizzahead | if I have multiple interfaces on a machine how can i get common utilities to source from a specific interface |
| 20:21.51 | jelly | foo: btw you seem to be having old mplayer processes around. ;-) |
| 20:21.54 | Hawkwind | foo: 5 - 6+ |
| 20:21.59 | farhome | stew: so far so good. Do you use openvpn? |
| 20:22.01 | karrot-x | mike_sol: how about 20gb+? :) |
| 20:22.06 | valdyn_ | foo: whats "high" load is relative, load is neither a benchmark nor comparable between different systems. |
| 20:22.12 | stew | farhome: no |
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| 20:22.17 | mike_sol | karrot-x, you ask too much! |
| 20:22.22 | jelly | mike_sol: ooh, do they work? |
| 20:22.24 | karrot-x | sorry |
| 20:22.25 | secher | anyone in the Philly area with a sizable file and a fat pipe I can choke to test my bandwidth? |
| 20:22.33 | foo | jelly: woahhh.. weird. hmm, I see that. Thanks |
| 20:22.41 | mike_sol | jelly, i have at least one working ST-506 at home (inside a working XT clone) |
| 20:22.45 | soymilk | anyone know of any phone-type devices that can run an ssh client? |
| 20:22.46 | valdyn_ | foo: however if your system is slow, you want to figure out what its doing and which program is doing that... |
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| 20:23.19 | mike_sol | soymilk, most windows mobile smartphones would have no problem... ;) |
| 20:23.24 | HyperZid | when installing initrd.. is the only thing I need is --initrd to make-pkpg? |
| 20:23.25 | mike_sol | or a sharp zaurus |
| 20:23.27 | pizzahead | soymilk: moterolla sidekicks have a terminal app that supports ssh |
| 20:23.28 | jelly | soymilk: nokia communicator? |
| 20:23.38 | pizzahead | motorolla even |
| 20:23.41 | mike_sol | tero 650 |
| 20:23.43 | stew | motorolla makes the sidekick? |
| 20:23.44 | mike_sol | er, treo |
| 20:23.46 | pizzahead | dont they? |
| 20:24.00 | extr3m | which of the DVD iso files should i download if i want to install debian on a laptop? or anywhere at all for that matter, with KISS in mind |
| 20:24.04 | foo | foo 9128 0.0 0.0 0 0 pts/5 Z Nov16 0:00 [mplayer] <defunct> |
| 20:24.07 | foo | Bah. |
| 20:24.10 | soymilk | i used to have a kyocera smartphone which ran palmOS, but that was a few years ago. wondering if there's anything newer/better. thanks |
| 20:24.15 | jelly | pizzahead: drop the extra l and you'll even spell it write. ;-) |
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| 20:24.28 | pizzahead | jelly: doh :P |
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| 20:24.39 | pizzahead | I guess t-mobile does |
| 20:24.42 | pizzahead | so I'm still wrong |
| 20:24.42 | pizzahead | heh |
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| 20:24.56 | stew | pizzahead: "danger" does |
| 20:25.15 | stew | pizzahead: they are partnered with t-mobile to provide services |
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| 20:26.13 | jelly | t-mobile probably rebrands the thingies, who knows who makes them. |
| 20:26.13 | Jeffreyf | please link me to the latest stable .ISO |
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| 20:26.27 | stew | Jeffreyf: http://debian.org/CD |
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| 20:26.42 | Jeffreyf | Thanks!!! |
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| 20:26.53 | secher | is there a way in xchat to remove all of these damn join and quit messages? |
| 20:26.58 | abrotman | secher: i gave you a link |
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| 20:27.12 | secher | abrotman: you did? |
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| 20:27.19 | secher | abrotman: when? |
| 20:27.24 | abrotman | secher: /lastlog abrotman |
| 20:27.39 | secher | abortman: I'm not saying you didn't, I just don['t remember. |
| 20:27.48 | abrotman | secher: it was like 10 minutes ago :) |
| 20:27.55 | stew | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:27.59 | Ungy | damn IP policy routing blows monkey spunk I can't believe I get a windows machien doing what I want in less then two minutes and I can;t get a linux machine to do what I want |
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| 20:28.17 | abrotman | stew: i've been fairly quiet today |
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| 20:28.33 | Bob332 | can someone tell me the diff between the regular 2.4.27 kernel and this other kernel my system got installed with,....2.4.31-bf.24 |
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| 20:28.54 | secher | abrotman: whew, I really need to start taking my pills.. can you repost that link, please? it's not in lastlog. |
| 20:29.08 | jelly | secher: right click on channel tab, #debian -> show join/part messages |
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| 20:29.16 | stew | Bob332: 2.4.31-bf.24 is a kernel that was provided by your hardware manufacturer as a insatll kernel |
| 20:29.18 | HyperZid | can anyone tell me what do do.. to fix initrd on a kernel I compile with make-kpkg? |
| 20:29.33 | secher | jelly: Thanks man. |
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| 20:29.46 | secher | abrotman: Thanks to you as well. |
| 20:29.47 | stew | Bob332: it wasn't intended to be used after the install was complete. 2.4.27-2 is the current stable 2.4 kenrel in debian |
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| 20:30.08 | wouterrr | what kernel options do i need for simple monitor support |
| 20:30.16 | wouterrr | i can't login with monitor, only remote via ssh |
| 20:30.20 | secher | as my fiancee would say, sometimes I get a little sketchy. |
| 20:30.48 | stew | wouterrr: try passing "vga=normal" as a kerenl parameter at boot time |
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| 20:31.05 | wouterrr | it just stops after: 896MB LOWMEM AVAILABLE |
| 20:31.15 | stew | wouterrr: then it goes blank? |
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| 20:31.19 | wouterrr | it stays on |
| 20:31.20 | stew | wouterrr: do you use grub or lilo? |
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| 20:31.24 | wouterrr | but that's the last line i see |
| 20:31.25 | wouterrr | grub. |
| 20:31.31 | wouterrr | with defualt image i don't have it |
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| 20:31.58 | wouterrr | vga=normal doesn't change a thing |
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| 20:32.02 | Bob332 | stew, so whats it intended for? |
| 20:32.09 | stew | Bob332: installing |
| 20:32.30 | Bob332 | stew, i am running a dell server with built in scsi raid...i think thats why |
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| 20:32.43 | stew | Bob332: bf==boot floppy, a stripped down kernel that has the raid drivers but is still small enought to fit on a floppy |
| 20:32.55 | stew | Bob332: it won't have support for stuff like firewalling |
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| 20:33.12 | stew | Bob332: and you won't get security patches for that kernel |
| 20:33.13 | jelly | hmm |
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| 20:33.32 | Bob332 | stew, so basically i need to get my system up for the sole purpose of getting ssh installed and rebuilding the kernel |
| 20:33.41 | jelly | wouterrr: does video=vga16:off do anything? I'm just googling for linux disable framebuffer ... |
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| 20:33.49 | pack | wouterrr: so it boots normally except you can't log in via the terminal ? |
| 20:33.53 | wouterrr | yes. |
| 20:33.55 | wouterrr | everything works. |
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| 20:34.05 | ytt | hello what's the name of the console-oriented package management tool for debian? |
| 20:34.10 | ytt | can't remember |
| 20:34.15 | pack | jelly isn't it just nofb? |
| 20:34.18 | stew | ytt: aptitude? |
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| 20:34.34 | jelly | pack: I don't really know. |
| 20:34.36 | grendal_prime | im trying to get a grasp on this and im getting errors that are not explained in the howto im working through |
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| 20:34.39 | wouterrr | video=nofb, pack ? |
| 20:34.41 | stew | ytt: or were you thinkin of dselect |
| 20:34.45 | grendal_prime | QTDESIGNER |
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| 20:34.53 | grendal_prime | anyone use it? |
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| 20:34.57 | HyperZid | damn.. I cant get my kernel to work.. still get that nasty error: Kernal panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 20:35.04 | resiak | !anyone use |
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| 20:35.04 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 20:35.08 | wouterrr | arhw |
| 20:35.11 | wouterrr | it doesn't change a thing |
| 20:35.16 | pack | wouterrr: i think its like root=/dev/hda nofb |
| 20:35.18 | stew | HyperZid: are you sure you are passing the correct root= option to that kernel? |
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| 20:35.33 | wouterrr | hum, why would it try framebuffer |
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| 20:35.34 | wouterrr | i don't get this |
| 20:35.37 | HyperZid | stew, thats done trough grubb |
| 20:35.41 | Bob332 | how do i rebuild my kernel with my megaraid driver installed? is there any debian way? |
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| 20:35.45 | ytt | stew: no, that was aptitude indeed :P thx |
| 20:36.02 | jelly | wouterrr: if it's a default debian kernel, it'll try framebuffer. |
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| 20:36.15 | wouterrr | it's my own kernel, with an initrd image |
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| 20:36.18 | HyperZid | stew, look in #flood.. |
| 20:36.20 | wouterrr | but the original debian kernel works |
| 20:36.36 | arturaz | how do i disable scope routes? 84.32.168.0/24 dev eth1 proto kernel scope link src 84.32.168.52 . i don't need that.. |
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| 20:36.44 | dedalus | hi |
| 20:36.49 | resiak | wouterrr: Is it a 2.6.14 by any chance? |
| 20:36.49 | stew | wouterrr: maybe its /etc/init.d/console-screen.sh |
| 20:36.51 | pack | wouterrr: you didn't do any to really strip it out that involved getting rid of a lot of char devices did you? |
| 20:36.57 | wouterrr | resiak: YES, IT IS. |
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| 20:37.02 | dedalus | is there anyone using peap with xsupplicant here ?? |
| 20:37.05 | resiak | wouterrr: Did you use yaird to make the initrd? |
| 20:37.05 | wouterrr | sorry, for the caps |
| 20:37.11 | wouterrr | nou, just mkinitrd |
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| 20:37.31 | myren | is there any way to get a notification for a package you want to see? an alert when openldap 2.3 is in debian, even experimental, would be awsome |
| 20:37.33 | resiak | wouterrr: Did you know that you cannot use mkinitrd with 2.6.14, and you must now use yaird or initramfs-tools? |
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| 20:37.45 | wouterrr | no, i did not know that. but it works, though |
| 20:37.48 | dedalus | i cant' generate pks certificats |
| 20:38.10 | resiak | wouterrr: It quite clearly _isn't_. |
| 20:38.17 | resiak | wouterrr: Why not start with a Debian 2.6.14? |
| 20:38.23 | wouterrr | erw, but i can login via ssh |
| 20:38.30 | wouterrr | but i'll try initramfs-tools |
| 20:38.32 | stew | myren: if there was a bug you knew it was going to close, like a wishlist bug for new upstream available you could subscribe to that bug, but you wouldn't know when it hit experimental, only unstable |
| 20:38.39 | resiak | wouterrr: Try a stock 2.6.14 |
| 20:38.40 | HyperZid | stew, got abit tired over it now.. tried to recompile about 10 times:\ |
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| 20:38.47 | wouterrr | i'm using a stock 2.6.14 |
| 20:38.52 | resiak | wouterrr: Debian stock? |
| 20:38.54 | secher | Ok, I'm curious. I thought there was no non-us section in Debian, but there're still mirror listings for non-us. |
| 20:38.55 | resiak | Didn't think so. |
| 20:38.56 | wouterrr | just created a debian package with make-kpkg |
| 20:38.57 | HyperZid | stew, usually I manage it within 1/2 tries on other boxes |
| 20:39.04 | wouterrr | not debian stock, just vanilla from kernel dot org |
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| 20:39.06 | resiak | wouterrr: I mean apt-get install linux-image-2.6.14 |
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| 20:39.15 | Andy837 | how do i reconfigure x-window-system? |
| 20:39.16 | stew | HyperZid: verify that the initrd exists and is referenced by menu.lst |
| 20:39.22 | resiak | !drxx Andy837 |
| 20:39.23 | dpkg | Andy837: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root) || if you have edited the X config file by hand,used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:39.24 | Andy837 | i tried dpkg-reconfigure x-window-system |
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| 20:39.40 | wouterrr | resiak: i'll try yaird |
| 20:39.45 | stew | HyperZid: wait you said that this is becuase you are trying to get sata support, are you trying to boot from the sata disks or the pata? |
| 20:39.45 | thc | Andy837: you mean xserver-xfree86 ? |
| 20:39.48 | wouterrr | because i've a custom kernel |
| 20:39.49 | myren | whats dpkg's (the bot's) seen command? |
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| 20:39.55 | resiak | wouterrr: Try the Debian kernel image? then use its .config? |
| 20:39.57 | thc | myren: seen |
| 20:39.59 | resiak | !last myren |
| 20:40.03 | resiak | Hmm, I'm wrong. |
| 20:40.04 | thc | !seen myren |
| 20:40.04 | dpkg | myren is currently on #debian (14h 47m 13s). Has said a total of 4339 messages. Is idling for 15s |
| 20:40.10 | myren | !seen torsten |
| 20:40.11 | dpkg | torsten <~torsten@dsl-213-023-068-161.arcor-ip.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 172d 9h 49m 16s ago, saying: 'jethro: thank you, i will check that'. |
| 20:40.18 | myren | so much for that |
| 20:40.19 | HyperZid | stew, no.. my main disc is normal ide |
| 20:40.20 | SvperPhly | I'm looking for mod_alias in apache2 on debian sid, but it's not there and i don't know what pkg it's in, does anyone know where i should start looking? |
| 20:40.22 | jelly | !seen mwilson |
| 20:40.22 | dpkg | mwilson <i=8SaUcgh2@ip70-179-43-17.sd.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 34d 23h 33m 59s ago, saying: 'liam: Why use nvagp over the kernel AGP driver?'. |
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| 20:40.31 | thc | aww, mwilson |
| 20:40.33 | myren | 34days ago? really? tahts crazy |
| 20:40.33 | thc | so sad :( |
| 20:40.39 | stew | myren: permabanned |
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| 20:40.49 | myren | ! |
| 20:40.49 | resiak | thc: Sad that he was banned for being a TOTAL COCK? |
| 20:40.50 | liable | !aww |
| 20:40.51 | myren | what for |
| 20:40.51 | dpkg | *snuggles* |
| 20:40.53 | HyperZid | stew, the initrd exist.. and is pointed to.. in menu.lst |
| 20:40.57 | thc | resiak: yep. |
| 20:40.57 | michael | when I try to kill a process, it doesn't quit?! help?! |
| 20:40.59 | myren | yeah, the man hada tallent |
| 20:41.00 | stew | myren: for obvious reasons |
| 20:41.03 | resiak | thc: ... |
| 20:41.06 | wouterrr | resiak: probably could do that, but yaird should could do it |
| 20:41.11 | thc | resiak: </sarcasm> |
| 20:41.13 | valdyn_ | michael: how are you trying to kill it? |
| 20:41.13 | wouterrr | easier, seems to me |
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| 20:41.16 | resiak | wouterrr: FFS man ... why do you need to build your own?! |
| 20:41.23 | myren | i think he actually helped me once. i nearly shat myself. |
| 20:41.28 | michael | valdyn_: I do 'kill PID' |
| 20:41.30 | liable | haha |
| 20:41.36 | wouterrr | because i want to! : ) |
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| 20:41.49 | HyperZid | stew, must be something else i've forgot |
| 20:41.55 | stew | HyperZid: and your root fs is definately compiled into the kernel? |
| 20:42.02 | thc | myren: i don't think he was banned for not helping, he probably got banned for being himself. |
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| 20:42.09 | abrotman | jelly: http://www.unixadm.net/solaris/run_levels_sol9.html .. maybe the changed it |
| 20:42.18 | stew | HyperZid: seems like it should work, but maybe you need to add some modules to /etc/mkinitrd/ or something |
| 20:42.26 | HyperZid | stew: /dev/hda1 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) |
| 20:42.27 | valdyn_ | michael: alright, maybe you should read the manpage, however 'kill PID' doesnt 'delete' a process, it tells a process to do whatever it wants to shut down. It doesnt have to react at all though. |
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| 20:42.32 | callsign | hey does anyone need any ram? |
| 20:42.44 | thc | sure, if it's ddr400 dual channel |
| 20:42.48 | HyperZid | stew: <*> Reiserfs support |
| 20:42.48 | jelly | callsign: where are you? ;-) |
| 20:42.59 | michael | valdyn_: hm okay, but how do I 'delete' a process then? |
| 20:43.05 | thc | !ricerfs |
| 20:43.05 | dpkg | hmm... ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
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| 20:43.08 | xbmodder-treo | hi |
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| 20:43.21 | xbmodder-treo | anyone here got bluetooth running |
| 20:43.30 | valdyn_ | michael: 'kill pid' should be the first try to 'delete' a process still. Which process are you trying to delete? |
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| 20:43.36 | myren | !reiserfs |
| 20:43.36 | dpkg | from memory, reiserfs is a journaling filesystem with pretty good performance and some interesting features. See http://www.namesys.com. It is wonderful and everyone loves it, until the axe falls and they lose data due to a crash. As such, it has a lot of ex-fans who are now sadder but wiser. See ext3, xfs, or jfs for safer filesystems. |
| 20:43.44 | myren | supposedly reiser4 is much better built |
| 20:43.44 | stew | xbmodder-treo: i did very recently, it wasn't as easy as i would have wished |
| 20:43.53 | abrotman | yeah .. but it still goes boom |
| 20:43.56 | otroean | Hi. Can't find out what i should write in my sources.list to use the norwegian update servers... can anyone help me? |
| 20:43.59 | xbmodder-treo | stew: with a treo? |
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| 20:44.09 | stew | xbmodder-treo: no, apple keyboard |
| 20:44.11 | HyperZid | stew: i'm actually compiling inn all modules I know I need to get the kernel booted.. |
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| 20:44.24 | michael | valdyn_: it's kdeinit I'm trying to kill. no, I'm not running KDE and it's not necessary for my desktop to run etc.. |
| 20:44.31 | stew | HyperZid: and this is all becuase you need to patch the kernel to get a driver for your sata? |
| 20:44.33 | HyperZid | stew: but there is some module I havent fixed yet it seems.. |
| 20:44.45 | valdyn_ | michael: probably got started by a kde app that you started.. |
| 20:44.46 | stew | HyperZid: like it needs a patch, not just that it needs 2.6.14? |
| 20:44.51 | myren | i've only had 3-4 systems going at a time, but in my 5 years of reiser, i've neve rhad a problem. some of them used to fail in rather catastrophic ways rather frequently... ie hd just unplugged, hard 120 resets, &all |
| 20:44.52 | HyperZid | stew, not patch.. just get the driver |
| 20:45.03 | stew | HyperZid: then why not use a debian compiled kernel? |
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| 20:45.24 | Bob332 | HyperZid, possibly you can help me to get a raid driver in my kernel?? |
| 20:45.39 | valdyn_ | michael: feel free to try 'kill -9 pid'. That wont shut down that process nicely, but if that kde app of yours isnt running anymore its probably safe enough. |
| 20:45.40 | Bob332 | stew, is there a debian compiled kernel that will support megaraid? |
| 20:45.51 | dusk | megakernel |
| 20:46.14 | Bob332 | dusk, is that directed towards me? |
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| 20:46.28 | michael | valdyn_: that worked fine. thank you |
| 20:46.34 | stew | Bob332: i believe any of them, /msg dpkg config-2.4.27-2-386 and /msg dpkg config-2.6.8-2-386 for MEGARAID |
| 20:46.44 | wouterrr | resiak: yaird or mkinitrd, no difference: ) |
| 20:46.53 | resiak | wouterrr: Try linux-image-2.6.14 ? |
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| 20:46.59 | valdyn_ | michael: jus dont use kill -9 habitually, its dangerous |
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| 20:47.08 | wouterrr | i want to use .2 |
| 20:47.09 | michael | valdyn_: why? |
| 20:47.11 | wouterrr | 2.6.14.2 |
| 20:47.15 | resiak | Hmm, where do logs get dumped after a kernel panic, or do they not get dumped? If the latter, how can I make them be dumped? |
| 20:47.21 | wouterrr | i've some custom kernel crap |
| 20:47.23 | Bob332 | stew, the default 3.6 kernel on sarge does not support it, right |
| 20:47.26 | Andy837 | ok thanks, i sorted x-window-system out |
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| 20:47.38 | stew | Bob332: it does: http://vireo.org/~stew/config-2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 20:47.40 | Andy837 | before when i installed it i got an option of how i want to run KDE.... |
| 20:47.48 | Andy837 | as WINDOWS and UNIX or as MAC |
| 20:47.49 | valdyn_ | michael: it doesnt give that process a chance to shut down properly, so whatever its doing just just aborted, if its currently writing something to disk that write will be incomplete |
| 20:47.55 | resiak | wouterrr: Try linux-image-2.6.14, then if it works, use its /boot/config-blahblah |
| 20:48.01 | valdyn_ | michael: -> youll end up with fucked config file or whatever |
| 20:48.05 | resiak | Andy837: STOP shouting, and kpersonalizer I think. |
| 20:48.10 | HyperZid | stew, Bob332 because I need support for "SATAII150 TX4" |
| 20:48.11 | wouterrr | resiak: i think it's a kernel setting though |
| 20:48.27 | myren | abrotman: haha! i finally got a VPS account in a datacenter! finally no roomates tripping circuit breakers |
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| 20:48.42 | michael | valdyn_: okay, I understand ... thank you! |
| 20:48.46 | resiak | wouterrr: Try linux-image-2.6.14, then if it works, use its /boot/config-blahblah which will have the right kernel setting if it works? |
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| 20:49.05 | HyperZid | stew, I heard I HAD to recompile the kernel.. to get that card working |
| 20:49.07 | wouterrr | that's not a solution, i call that a work-a-round, but thanks for your time |
| 20:49.11 | resiak | wouterrr: How many times do I have to say this? TRY the Debian image, and IF IT WORKS you can use its config to figure out where you went wrong |
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| 20:49.14 | resiak | *plonk* |
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| 20:49.31 | myren | oh man, forwarding my school mail to gmail has so many small extra cool bonuses |
| 20:49.35 | stew | HyperZid: what is the exact kernel config option? |
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| 20:49.40 | myren | spam filtering, gmailfs, oh, so sweet |
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| 20:49.45 | stew | HyperZid: i don't see anything like SATAII150 |
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| 20:50.13 | warren | Somebody please redirect Debian's flash plugin downloader to Macromedia's official site. Do not download from the macromedia.mplug.org mirrors anymore. |
| 20:50.22 | HyperZid | stew, well.. to get up the kernel now.. I dont need SATAII150.. since thats just another discs.. |
| 20:50.28 | valdyn_ | warren: why? |
| 20:50.32 | dusk | warren: why |
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| 20:50.34 | Andy837 | where / how do i run kpersonalize? |
| 20:50.49 | abrotman | myren: i meant pull it from the machine :) |
| 20:50.50 | warren | Valandil, dusk: I can barely afford the bandwidth, and it is the same file. |
| 20:50.51 | HyperZid | stew, where can I see the exact kernel config option? |
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| 20:50.59 | Bob332 | stew, i see the link http://vireo.org/~stew/config-2.6.8-2-386, but i dont even understand what im looking at.. So it's a make file? When do i implement this? |
| 20:51.10 | warren | anyway there is a security update 7.0.61 so Debian needs to update their pseudo-package anyway. |
| 20:51.11 | valdyn_ | warren: file a bugreport |
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| 20:51.15 | warren | how? |
| 20:51.17 | valdyn_ | warren: we cant really help you |
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| 20:51.24 | valdyn_ | warren: bts.debian.org |
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| 20:51.41 | Andy837 | so................ where / how do i run kpersonalize? |
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| 20:51.55 | evilmegaman | is intel Pentium D a 64 bit processor and should I use a 64 bit linux with it? |
| 20:52.02 | resiak | evilmegaman: No, and no. |
| 20:52.06 | stew | Bob332: those are the options the debian kernel was compiled with, in there, if you had searched for MEGARAID you woudl see a =m next to it, meaning the debian 2.6 kernel supports megaraid |
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| 20:52.30 | myren | oh man, thnak god there's finally a boo 0.7 in debian |
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| 20:52.31 | evilmegaman | resiak, think you can explain what EM64T is then? |
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| 20:52.39 | stew | HyperZid: in make menuconfig under help for whatever you are enabling to support your card. but if you aren't patching the kernel, a debian kernel would just work for you and you would have been done hours ago |
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| 20:52.46 | resiak | evilmegaman: Sure, it's for Intel Itanic^WItanium processors, which are 64 bit. |
| 20:52.51 | valdyn_ | warren: or just mail the maintainer, or just move that file away |
| 20:52.55 | Bob332 | stew, then how come when i boot my install cd (sarge) to linux26 it dosent work, but when booting default (2.4) it works and sees my disk |
| 20:52.55 | stew | !em64t |
| 20:52.55 | dpkg | em64t is probably Intel's clone of AMD Athlon64/Opteron architecture - provides 64-bit extensions to i386 architecture. Use AMD64 Debian (/msg dpkg amd64), or Sarge with a -em64t-p4 kernel. Found only on Nocona and Irwindale Xeons, or the latest Extreme Edition Pentiums |
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| 20:53.11 | warren | valdyn_, that domain doesn't resolve for me. I don't use Debian, I am just here to warn Debian that they should update it because of the security reason. |
| 20:53.13 | stew | Bob332: i don't know |
| 20:53.18 | resiak | Oh, I'm totally wrong, sorry, I'll shut up. |
| 20:53.25 | valdyn_ | warren: oh, sorry, its http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 20:53.29 | michael | how come I get a "The account 6626183 will be disconnected for exceeding the rate limit. Please wait approximately |
| 20:53.30 | evilmegaman | lol |
| 20:53.33 | Thanatermesis | if i press the eject button in the CDROM and its mounted, can't eject, what is the posible better program to read this call's and umount directly the device for can posible to eject ? |
| 20:53.36 | michael | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:53.53 | HyperZid | stew, what module can I load.. to get .SATAII150 to work... in a normal debian kernel.? |
| 20:53.54 | Bob332 | stew, would the sarge install cd change since last month.. i thought it stayed the same in regard to kernel releases |
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| 20:54.01 | evilmegaman | Resiak, so what it says is use the AMD 64 processor? okay :) |
| 20:54.13 | resiak | evilmegaman: I don't know enough of the terminology. Ignore me. |
| 20:54.17 | jade | how can i check the users logged in to my system from outside networks? |
| 20:54.20 | evilmegaman | Okay sorry :) |
| 20:54.24 | Bob332 | jade, finger |
| 20:54.26 | stew | HyperZid: i don't know that's why i'm asking what you are enabling in the config. who makes it? promise? |
| 20:54.27 | resiak | michael: Shouldn't you ask your ICQ client's channel about that? |
| 20:54.36 | dhp_saturn_v4 | how to mount a "Unix Fast File system (big-endian)" partition on Linux x86 (at least RO) ? |
| 20:54.44 | HyperZid | stew, two sec.. let me c |
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| 20:54.50 | stew | Bob332: the sarge install cd's have not changed in months |
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| 20:55.05 | michael | resiak: true, but they sleep :) |
| 20:55.29 | jade | Bob332, thanks, but how can i see how long they've been idle? what their activity is as far as running processes? |
| 20:55.37 | dusk | !c |
| 20:55.37 | dpkg | See, or S-E-E. If you're too lazy to spell it out, we're too lazy to help you. |
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| 20:55.45 | drac | could someone direct me to a page of debian etch release plan |
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| 20:55.50 | resiak | !they don't know |
| 20:55.50 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
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| 20:56.01 | resiak | Not really appropriate, I know. |
| 20:56.04 | Bob332 | jade, cant you login via terminal |
| 20:56.04 | dusk | !pig |
| 20:56.04 | dpkg | *oink* *oink* *oink* |
| 20:56.08 | resiak | drac: "When it's ready." |
| 20:56.15 | jade | Bob332, yes |
| 20:56.16 | streuner | dpkg, factinfo pig |
| 20:56.16 | dpkg | pig -- created by xk <apt@syrinx.nyip.net> at Wed Sep 19 05:14:46 2001 (1524 days); it has been requested 17 times, last by dusk, 12s ago. |
| 20:56.17 | dusk | ".com" |
| 20:56.26 | jade | Bob332, im logged in now |
| 20:56.27 | Bob332 | so run who |
| 20:56.28 | tchino | Has somebody experience with a microsoft intellimouse explorer under debian |
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| 20:56.36 | stew | drac: check for recent postings on d-d-a by Steve Langasek |
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| 20:56.49 | drac | stew: will do. |
| 20:56.49 | resiak | tchino: Yes, I'm using one now. |
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| 20:56.57 | dusk | is there a debian deb blog of website that shows the current state of debian related stuff? |
| 20:57.02 | resiak | tchino: Do the side buttons work for me? No. :-) |
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| 20:57.07 | stew | drac: /msg dpkg dwn |
| 20:57.12 | stew | err dusk ^^^ |
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| 20:57.23 | tchino | resiak: what i do wrong, when i move the mouse, it moves only vertical |
| 20:57.39 | stew | dusk: there is also planet.debian.org but its not necessarly all debian related, its a DD and NM blog aggregate |
| 20:58.05 | dusk | stew: i want to redesign the debian site :) whre can I send submissions? |
| 20:58.20 | stew | dusk: which? |
| 20:58.34 | stew | dusk: debian.org? |
| 20:58.36 | HyperZid | stew, CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SX4:This option enables support for Promise Serial ATA SX4. |
| 20:58.41 | dusk | stew: si |
| 20:58.41 | tchino | resiak: what do you have for settings in xorg or xf86config? |
| 20:58.52 | dusk | stew: sorta like how freebsd.org had a contest for an overhaul |
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| 20:58.58 | resiak | !devinputmice |
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| 20:59.04 | stew | HyperZid: grep SATA_SX4 /boot/config-2.6.14-1-686 -> CONFIG_SCSI_SATA_SX4=m |
| 20:59.07 | resiak | erm... where did that factoid go? |
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| 20:59.21 | stew | HyperZid: so you probably could have just installed debian's 2.6.14 and have been done with it |
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| 20:59.26 | resiak | tchino: /j |
| 20:59.28 | resiak | tchino: /j #flood |
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| 21:00.17 | tchino | resiak: that is not all |
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| 21:00.21 | streuner | dusk: http://lists.debian.org/debian-www/ |
| 21:00.29 | resiak | tchino: It's all that matters... |
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| 21:00.54 | stew | resiak: i removed devinputmice becuase peterS said there were multiple errors in it |
| 21:01.02 | resiak | stew: peterS is wrong ;) |
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| 21:01.19 | HyperZid | stew, but I'm not compleately sure its that module |
| 21:01.35 | HyperZid | stew, I havent got the card to work yet.. with any modprobes |
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| 21:01.38 | tchino | resiak: i have the same, but when i move the mouse, i can only move in vertical direction |
| 21:01.39 | stew | HyperZid: if its in the 2.6.14 kernel its enabled by debian |
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| 21:01.55 | HyperZid | I have 2.6.8-2 default |
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| 21:02.01 | jsan | my friends when i try to run ethe command kinit Administrador@DOMAIN>COM>BR retorn the error kinit: NOTICE: ticket renewable lifetime is 1 week |
| 21:02.01 | jsan | kinit: converting creds: Cannot contact any KDC for requested realm |
| 21:02.10 | jsan | wahtis the problems ? |
| 21:02.13 | jsan | help me please |
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| 21:02.35 | stew | HyperZid: that module is also enabled in 2.6.8-2 |
| 21:02.42 | horst_fuchs | hi folks |
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| 21:02.56 | interbird | Hi, I have problems with hotplug and udev, I had to uninstall hotplug to upgrade udev... Anyone ? |
| 21:02.56 | HyperZid | stew, what do I need to modprobe then? |
| 21:02.56 | Grout | what are some big repositories? |
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| 21:03.07 | jcole | i want to change one simple parameter in a kernel .config asnd recompile... can i just "apt-src build linux-source-2.6.12" with a parameter to a config file?? |
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| 21:04.08 | thc | big repositories? for what packages? |
| 21:04.33 | resiak | stew: May I rephrase that: he's not wrong --- the stuff about 2.4 was lies. |
| 21:04.40 | Andy837 | how do i change IP? |
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| 21:04.51 | stew | HyperZid: i have no idea. all i'm saying is this: you are having trouble booting a self-compiled kernel, why not use a debian compiled kernel which has a much greater chance of working, esp since you are not adding any capabilities to your kernel which aren't already present in the debian kernel |
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| 21:05.05 | thc | Andy837: man interfaces |
| 21:05.13 | Bob332 | jcole, if you do this, will you be able to upgrade to the new kernel or will you have to always recompile things when security updates and new kernel updates get released??? |
| 21:05.16 | stew | resiak: re-add a fixed version |
| 21:05.25 | HyperZid | stew, because I cant get this module working with the default kernel.. dunno why.. |
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| 21:05.48 | HyperZid | stew: modprobe sata_sx4 <-- dosnt make my drives visible |
| 21:06.14 | HyperZid | libata 42116 3 sata_sx4,sata_promise,ata_piix <-- from lsmod |
| 21:06.27 | stew | HyperZid: how are you testing for visibility? |
| 21:06.28 | jcole | Bob332: i want to automate this, i can write something to check for new source |
| 21:07.04 | stew | HyperZid: do the show up when you run "fdisk -l"? |
| 21:07.05 | Bob332 | jcole, so when you update your kernel you cant use apt ? |
| 21:07.13 | HyperZid | stew, lsmod after modprobe. but i'm not 100% sure which module to use.. |
| 21:07.22 | HyperZid | stew, no.. also testing that |
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| 21:07.41 | HyperZid | fdisk -l only shows ide drives |
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| 21:08.09 | jcole | Bob332: just did a man on make-kpkg... that's perfect |
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| 21:08.27 | Bob332 | jcole, i will have to read it |
| 21:08.44 | skiflyer | I'm trying to completely remove exim4 from my system cause my config files may have been goofy |
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| 21:08.53 | skiflyer | so I did an apt-get remove --purge exim4 |
| 21:09.00 | skiflyer | and it said it worked, but /etc/exim4 was still there |
| 21:09.02 | skiflyer | so I removed it |
| 21:09.10 | stew | HyperZid: and "fdisk -l /dev/sda" does it say nothing? or something like "no valid partition table"? |
| 21:09.13 | skiflyer | now when I re-install, it refuses to do the configuration claiming the folder is bad |
| 21:09.19 | stew | HyperZid: are these disks partitioned? |
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| 21:09.25 | skiflyer | can't I just zap it and re-install? |
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| 21:10.06 | HyperZid | stew, that command dosnt return anything |
| 21:10.12 | HyperZid | stew: no errors |
| 21:10.27 | liable | !zap /etc/exim4 |
| 21:10.40 | HyperZid | stew, no discs displayed |
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| 21:10.43 | stew | HyperZid: you also should try removing the sata modules, then insert them one by one, and see if anything useful shows up in dmesg |
| 21:10.51 | resiak | stew: CBA |
| 21:10.54 | HyperZid | hm. yeah.. two sec |
| 21:11.26 | stew | resiak: ? |
| 21:11.29 | skiflyer | and if I try to remove exim4-config instead, it wants to remove a bunch of other programs like bugzilla & mysql... what the heck is that all about? |
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| 21:12.22 | liable | !tell skiflyer about confmiss |
| 21:12.42 | Zub | skiflyer, i did just that 1 hour ago :) |
| 21:12.53 | Zub | skiflyer, i don't have mta now :) |
| 21:13.01 | Bob332 | whats the difference between kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 and 386? something with mmx? |
| 21:13.05 | stew | skiflyer: debian requires an MTA if you are going to remove exim you must replace it with some other MTA |
| 21:13.09 | HyperZid | stew: libata version 1.02 loaded. <-- only module which shows up in dmesg |
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| 21:13.19 | loxley_ | guys, how can i let normal users burn cd's with graveman? i can only find the dvdburner as root |
| 21:13.28 | HyperZid | stew: tried all theese: sata_svw,sata_sx4,sata_promise,ata_piix |
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| 21:13.32 | cat | loxley_, man chmod |
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| 21:13.41 | skiflyer | liable: Thanks, got back my files |
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| 21:13.52 | stew | HyperZid: you have discover installed? |
| 21:13.53 | liable | loxley_: are they in cdrom group |
| 21:13.53 | skiflyer | Now back to banging my head over why exim4 wn't work |
| 21:13.59 | liable | skiflyer: cool. |
| 21:14.04 | loxley_ | liable: nope |
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| 21:14.10 | verden01 | Hi i would like ot know what java package i should install with Sarge ? |
| 21:14.10 | loxley_ | liable: shall i add them? |
| 21:14.11 | cat | then add them |
| 21:14.13 | stew | HyperZid: you need to google and figure out what module is actually the one for your chipset and what kernel version actually supports it |
| 21:14.16 | Zub | skiflyer, how you did it? |
| 21:14.27 | liable | loxley_: yeah, then log them out and in. |
| 21:14.32 | cat | !tell verden01 about java |
| 21:14.34 | stew | verden01: any java package listed in /usr/share/doc/java-pacakge/SUPPORTED |
| 21:14.36 | Bob332 | whats the difference between kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 and 386? |
| 21:14.36 | HyperZid | stew: I got "discover1" |
| 21:14.39 | sbk | How can I find out what a particular install does (in terms of the scripts it runs, arguments etc) without actually doing it? [the context is -- I made some changes to an elisp package installed by dpkg. I'd like to know how it compiled the elisp code.] |
| 21:15.01 | skiflyer | !tell Zub about confmiss |
| 21:15.01 | HyperZid | stew, okok |
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| 21:15.12 | beardy | Bob332: 386 runs on Intel 386 and up. 686 runs only on 686. |
| 21:15.14 | dregan | leave |
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| 21:15.37 | stew | sbk: download the deb with apt-get -d install packagename ; then unpack the control files with dpkg -e ; then loo at /var/lib/dpkg/info/pkgname.postinst |
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| 21:15.46 | Bob332 | beardy, 686 is any pentium right |
| 21:15.48 | sbk | stew: ah, great -- many thanks. |
| 21:15.51 | Zub | skiflyer, thanks |
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| 21:16.08 | beardy | Bob332: No, above Pentium 1, I'd guess. |
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| 21:16.39 | beardy | Bob332: Since Pentium is called 586 sometimes. |
| 21:16.42 | dusk | hey, how can I update my gnome menu to reflect my recently installed programs? |
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| 21:16.48 | Bob332 | so if i install 386 on a pentium 4, will i loose performance opposed to installed the 686 |
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| 21:16.50 | dusk | restart x? |
| 21:16.54 | HyperZid | stew: I got this one: http://www.ciao.co.uk/Promise_SATAII150_TX4__5774633 |
| 21:17.00 | HyperZid | stew: trying to search for it now |
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| 21:17.33 | beardy | Bob332: Probably not noticeable. But if you have a Pentium 4, you can install the 686 one if you want. |
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| 21:17.47 | Bob332 | beardy, thanks man |
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| 21:18.11 | beardy | Bob332: No problem. |
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| 21:18.16 | grap | hello |
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| 21:18.35 | grap | sorry this is an offtopic question about tranlating, is there somone that knows english better than me, quite easy XDD, and can tell me if this is correct, and how would he change it? Chinese people say that they do not want to be told things that they already know. They know that this things happen because there is a rule in the world that says that there are sometimes bad things and sometimes good things |
| 21:18.36 | Bob332 | beardy, what about the kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686-smp one? whats the smp? |
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| 21:18.56 | ShaoKahn | hello! |
| 21:18.59 | thc | !confuse grap |
| 21:19.00 | dpkg | Yes, where are their mushroom tomorrow, grap? breeches of the democracy of liechtenstein with extra cream |
| 21:19.02 | beardy | !smp |
| 21:19.02 | dpkg | i heard smp is (Symmetric Multi Processing) This refers to a technology where a computer uses multiple processors to process different instructions at the same time, in separate processing units. It is a form of parallel computing. or Single Member Plurality, which is the Canadian electoral system., or rtfm! http://www.phy.duke.edu/brahma/smp-faq/, or the right option for Hyperthreaded Pentium 4's, or ... |
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| 21:19.16 | grap | Bob332, for computers with more than one CPU |
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| 21:19.35 | dusk | grap: what |
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| 21:20.01 | beardy | ah |
| 21:20.03 | beardy | !686 |
| 21:20.04 | dpkg | In a kernel version string, -686 refers to the Intel Pentium Pro, Pentium II, Celeron, Pentium III, Pentium IV, Pentium M (as in the chip used in the "Centrino" brand). not correct for EM64T Xeon/Pentium4's, which should use a -em64t-p4 kernel |
| 21:20.06 | grap | dusk, im a translator and i want to know if that is undertandable |
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| 21:20.24 | grap | dusk, i think im repeating quite a lot the word thing! |
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| 21:21.11 | soymilk | i have an smp question: is it the kernel that assigns things to run on one cpu or the other? |
| 21:21.27 | azeem | soymilk: yes, TTBOMK |
| 21:21.33 | stew | grap: "this" is singlular and "things" is plural, you need to say "this thing" or these things" |
| 21:21.35 | dusk | grap: Chinese people say that they do not want to be told things that they already know. They are aware that this happens occationally because of an unwritten rule stating that sometimes good things happen, and sometimes bad things happen. |
| 21:21.37 | HyperZid | stew: think I got it: http://www.opendrivers.com/freedownload/219331/promise-vtrak-15200-firmware-2.00-linux-download.html |
| 21:21.44 | soymilk | azeem: TTBOMK?? |
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| 21:21.53 | grap | sorry stew , my fault XD |
| 21:22.00 | dusk | grap: ive never heard of that rule tho |
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| 21:22.14 | grap | uau dusk |
| 21:22.24 | grap | so do I |
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| 21:22.31 | soymilk | azeem: and how does it do the assignment? round-robin? according to some weight? or load average? |
| 21:22.38 | grap | dusk, = hero! |
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| 21:23.04 | Bob332 | when i do lsmod i dont see the megaraid module, but i am up and running on my scsi raid which is the OS disk |
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| 21:23.14 | azeem | TTBOMK == to the best of my knowledge |
| 21:23.20 | skiflyer | Anyone know how I tell exim4 to hit the smarthost on port 465 instead of 25? |
| 21:23.24 | azeem | soymilk: the scheduler does it, I guess |
| 21:23.30 | ShaoKahn | I have a Question: I have a Board with a SIS190 Fast Ethernet OnBoard. I was able to compile a Module for the Board. It loads perfect with modprobe sis190 , ifconfig eth0 <ip>. but even if i put it in /etc/modules it will not start at System Start. I found some how-to's for debian manual installing Network, but nothing helps out. I modified: /etc/network/interfaces with ip netmask gateway broadcast.... but it does not start at boot. any id |
| 21:23.45 | azeem | soymilk: I bet you find better answers by googling, or reading Documentation/ in the Linux source |
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| 21:24.01 | Bob332 | skiflyer, just edit the file in /etc/exim4/ called update-exim4-conf.conf |
| 21:24.07 | grap | thanks |
| 21:24.08 | grap | bye |
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| 21:24.31 | skiflyer | Bob332: and do what, put :25 on the end of dc_smarthost? |
| 21:24.35 | skiflyer | er :465 |
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| 21:25.46 | stew | not knowing anything about exim i'd guess that you need somehow to tell it that its should be using ssl |
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| 21:26.05 | skiflyer | stew: Yeah, that's what I'm going for, but I don't seem to be getting anywhere |
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| 21:26.46 | pack | ShaoKahn: do you have an auto eth0 line in your /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:27.36 | ShaoKahn | pack: i have read it in the how-to.... but i have forgotten to write in there :-( i add and try again. Thanky you! |
| 21:28.11 | ShaoKahn | excuse me, that was my fault |
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| 21:30.34 | tomasquintero | hola |
| 21:30.36 | tomasquintero | buenas tardes |
| 21:30.46 | tomasquintero | algun latino gay conquien hablar? |
| 21:30.47 | stew | !es |
| 21:30.47 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 21:30.59 | koshnaranek | what?!? I'm tardy!?! |
| 21:31.05 | resiak | stew: /msg dpkg cba |
| 21:31.11 | stew | i think the clock is slow |
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| 21:31.20 | stew | fair enough |
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| 21:31.24 | mboso | i'm installing debian right now, and the installer is not recgonizing my raid0 even though my motherboard is. what's the deal? |
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| 21:32.01 | stew | mboso: what card? |
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| 21:32.07 | Zub | is there any lightweight mta that does local delivery and can send mail to a smarthost? |
| 21:32.09 | ChanGux | mboso, the mainboard is intel with sata controller? |
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| 21:32.35 | mboso | stew: its an onboard controller for my ga-k8n ultra-9 mobo |
| 21:32.40 | seven_six_two | I downloaded a new sk98lin module from the vendor website, but for some reason i have to re-insert it and restart networking everytime I reboot. am I doing something wrong? I shut down networking, rmmod the old module, built the new module and used modprobe to load it, then restarted networking. the net works, but only until i reboot |
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| 21:32.59 | mboso | its an Nvidia onboard controller |
| 21:33.04 | mboso | nforce-4 i believe |
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| 21:33.38 | chad__ | I would like to have "apt-get dist-upgrade" run on my machine every night, storing its output in /var/log/syslog and mailing the administrator if it fails. Is there a simple way to do this, or do I need to write my own script for cron to run? |
| 21:33.45 | resiak | cron-apt |
| 21:33.45 | mboso | seven_six_two : you should add teh module to your /etc/modules file. |
| 21:33.54 | myren | how do i find & app a repositories public key? |
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| 21:33.57 | mboso | seven_six_two : then it will load every time you reboot. |
| 21:34.09 | doublehp | I discovered seceral critical bugs in Debian kernels which are due to bugs in device drivers; I am about to report them to lkml, but shall I also open Debian bugs to inform other DEBIAN users about the problem ? |
| 21:34.11 | seven_six_two | mboso, aah. figures it'd be that easy. thanks |
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| 21:34.32 | mboso | seven_six_two : np |
| 21:34.34 | resiak | doublehp: Sure, why not. |
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| 21:35.10 | mboso | ChanGux : its an onboard nvidia nforce-4 sataII controller |
| 21:35.13 | Bob332 | does anyone know how i can ssh into my machine and view the output on the tty of my other login |
| 21:35.22 | chad__ | resiak: thanks |
| 21:35.36 | doublehp | resiak: not, because the bug is NOT a debian bug, but generic also with Gentoo and LFS. |
| 21:35.38 | xam | doublehp: unless these bugs are also in stock kernel.org kernels, don't report them to the lkml |
| 21:35.39 | ShaoKahn | pack: after entering that into interfaces and removing a typo, the interface startet. Thank you wery much! have a nice time. |
| 21:35.43 | ShaoKahn | goodbye |
| 21:36.27 | michael | I'm desperatly looking for a 'good' instant messanger for Linux. I'm running latest Sarge Gnome and have tried Gaim (too big und too less features), kopete (rate limit exceed error - doesnt work), through wine trillian (crashes on startup), miranda (100% cpu usuage) |
| 21:36.32 | doublehp | xam: I dont think many people try using Qlogick cards both on dual Pentium3 and dual Alpha ... nor try to mount solaris RAID disks under Debian x86. |
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| 21:36.39 | michael | anyone can recommend me anything else????? |
| 21:36.51 | resiak | !tell michael -about ep |
| 21:36.57 | resiak | michael: What features does Gaim lack? |
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| 21:37.36 | michael | resiak: It's just too big (all the icons etc is way too big and playful). no file transfers etc |
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| 21:37.54 | xam | doublehp: heh, like exotic hardware? |
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| 21:38.08 | psychonate | Does anyone know why K3B is no longer in Etch? |
| 21:38.10 | seven_six_two | is the .ko file the module? |
| 21:38.12 | resiak | michael: Erm, Gaim does file transfers. And you can reduce the size of the buddy list in the options (I think it's [ ] Show buddy details) |
| 21:38.16 | cmatheson | hi guys, how do i tell vim that a file is a certain type (e.g., if a file doesn't have an extension, how do i say 'this is a ruby file?') |
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| 21:38.18 | resiak | !why is k3b not in testing? |
| 21:38.19 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
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| 21:38.27 | xam | seven_six_two: yes |
| 21:38.32 | resiak | cmatheson: :set filetype=ruby ? |
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| 21:38.37 | stew | !kde3.4 |
| 21:38.37 | dpkg | KDE 3.4 is finally in etch. parts of kde were removed for the 3.4 transition so the metapacakge that installs everything can't be installed, but many of its individual components can be installed |
| 21:38.44 | seven_six_two | psychonate, because other packages that it depends on aren't ready for testing yet |
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| 21:38.52 | cmatheson | resiak: gee thanks |
| 21:38.53 | psychonate | ah I see |
| 21:38.59 | Bob332 | anyone know how i can take control of the tty/1 console , im logged in via ssh |
| 21:39.07 | psychonate | seven_six_two, is there any prediction on how long that will take? |
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| 21:39.11 | doublehp | xam: hmmm, StorEdge arrays on Ultra5 are not that much exotic (although quiet expensive), whats exotic is the fact the array works better with x86 than with Alpha |
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| 21:39.13 | resiak | Bob332: You can't. |
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| 21:39.29 | psychonate | burning DVDs without K3B has proven to be an... interesting experience |
| 21:39.34 | michael | resiak: well, I've used it for some weeks now and it just sucks - I really gotta say it that hard. |
| 21:39.38 | seven_six_two | psychonate, you'd have to chech that site. each pkg has to be ready for 10 days befor it gets in |
| 21:39.42 | psychonate | dvdrecord simply doesn't work for me |
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| 21:40.03 | resiak | michael: You haven't really given any real reasons why, but fair enough. |
| 21:40.07 | jade | Bob332, run screen in tty/1 ? |
| 21:40.09 | gnetux | hi everyone |
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| 21:40.32 | gnetux | anybody knows a prog to rip dvd-films??? |
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| 21:40.42 | michael | resiak: just compare it to kopete for instance. I'd really like to use kopete, but it's buggy, too! |
| 21:40.42 | doublehp | xam: I am really tired of APG port compatible with ISA 8b, P4 booting in 16b mode non protected, integers of unpredictable size, comparisons that do not affect the Z flag of the CPU, stupid BIOS, no explicite message when RAM stick is faulty. |
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| 21:40.54 | citral | gnetux: dvd::rip |
| 21:40.55 | Bob332 | jade, well i want to get to stuff i left on at work, so i can see if the package i installed finished and was installed ok |
| 21:40.59 | psychonate | gnetux, to what format? dvd::rip (dvdrip) does a good job encoding to MPEG4 |
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| 21:41.05 | resiak | michael: I did compare it to Kopete, and hated Kopete. Your choice. That's still not a good reason :) |
| 21:41.07 | doublehp | xam buy a refurb Alpha server (AS1200 or AS4100), they are way more enjoyable. |
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| 21:41.45 | xam | doublehp: I already have an AS500/500 here ;) |
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| 21:42.01 | mboso | anyone get the debian installer to recgonize raid0 when they were installing? |
| 21:42.02 | gnetux | psychonate:to get out regional codes from a dvd |
| 21:42.07 | michael | resiak: okay, we dont share the same oppinion, but is there another client? I'd love to use Trillian or Miranda from XP |
| 21:42.13 | doublehp | xam: I think I will install soon some graphical Gentoo on one of them. First I need to grab Solaris CD to reinstall my Ultra 5. I could buy some SGI, but they are too weak (200MHz for 100euros is expensive) |
| 21:42.17 | mboso | i'm using an onboard nforce-4 controller |
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| 21:42.35 | mith | michael: centericq |
| 21:42.36 | Syruss | is there a simple way of creating or 'doing' a stop watch in the shell? |
| 21:42.37 | resiak | michael: bitlbee, but you won't like that either. Why not get involved with Kopete (or Gaim, but you hate it) development and make it better? |
| 21:42.48 | Syruss | just so I can count minutes and seconds easily |
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| 21:42.50 | doublehp | xam so ... whats your SRM version ? I cant upgrade at all :( I need to re-read dual stage upgrades. |
| 21:42.59 | michael | resiak: I'm unable to code :) |
| 21:43.03 | resiak | michael: Why not learn? |
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| 21:43.14 | tchino | hello |
| 21:43.14 | condector | anyone has a NVIDIA... card? |
| 21:43.22 | doublehp | xam: got IDE-PCI cards ? found some PCI64 sounds, video, or USB cards ? |
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| 21:43.33 | azeem | condector: my parents have a Nvidia Riva 128 |
| 21:43.38 | michael | resiak: I'm studying machine engineering and economics engineering and there is no time for some 'extra learning' for some IM stuff |
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| 21:43.50 | tchino | i have a problem with a microsoft intellimouse, it moves only vertical, not hoizontal, what is worng??? |
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| 21:43.54 | doublehp | xam restricting AS1200 to PCI32 cards is quiet a shame on me :( |
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| 21:44.54 | doublehp | tchino: USB (= no broken pin), optical (no dirty LED), ... maybe driver ? really seem software bug. tried it on an other box to check the device itself ? |
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| 21:45.19 | seven_six_two | michael, look for "IM" in synaptic, or go to www.google.com/linux and do the same search |
| 21:45.21 | xam | doublehp: It's quite some time since I've upgraded the SRM, but it should be the latest version (don't ask me the version number) I'm running debian testing with it, an put in a Voodoo3 3000, which works fine. There is also a wifi card (prism2.5), but no IDE. SCSI only |
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| 21:45.26 | resiak | michael: Okay. I'm studying maths, and write the occasional patch for Gaim (picking up C along the way), but maybe my time constrainsts are different :) |
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| 21:46.10 | tchino | doubleehp: is the same, i have sitched it on the other usb-pin |
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| 21:46.19 | tchino | doublehp: is the same, i have sitched it on the other usb-pin |
| 21:46.27 | abrotman | resiak: there's always time .. or maybe he needs 'extra time' |
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| 21:46.51 | resiak | abrotman: I may have glossed over the "and computer science" bit of my course title, also ;) |
| 21:47.09 | michael | resiak: sounds nice. but tell me why does my gaim look so damn "boring" all the way? I can't even select the size of the contacts window. a minimum size is set by gaim automatically |
| 21:47.18 | doublehp | xam my QLA1040 seems limitted to 12MB per chain :S instead of 38 |
| 21:47.25 | resiak | michael: Fixed in 2.0, which should be out in a month or so. |
| 21:48.04 | Bob332 | 2.4 comes with megaraid2 built it...2.6 does not...is this correct? |
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| 21:50.02 | RichiH | is there any way to rebuild t/dev completely from scratch? |
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| 21:50.32 | notqpt | fags |
| 21:50.51 | abrotman | RichiH: MAKEDEV ? |
| 21:50.57 | abrotman | !tell notqpt about gay |
| 21:51.04 | seven_six_two | i put the sk98lin name in /etc/modules, but it still isn't working. i have 2 versions of it though. can i use the full path in the /etc/modules file? |
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| 21:51.13 | notqpt | abrotman omg thanks! |
| 21:51.14 | RichiH | abrotman: MAKEDEV does not know about null, for example |
| 21:51.15 | notqpt | i meant to say |
| 21:51.23 | thc | heh |
| 21:51.25 | notqpt | I THOROUGHLY ENJOY HAS A LARGE ERECT RIGID PENIS IN MY ANAL CAVITY |
| 21:51.25 | abrotman | RichiH: prepare the cannon! |
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| 21:51.34 | thc | typical from a user in phoenix |
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| 21:51.43 | thc | arizona is nothing but freaks and tweakers |
| 21:51.45 | abrotman | !tell notqpt about gay |
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| 21:51.52 | notqpt | you told me already |
| 21:51.54 | notqpt | please stop flooding |
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| 21:52.00 | abrotman | apparently you can't read |
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| 21:52.10 | abrotman | RichiH: isn't that something the kernel creates at boot ? |
| 21:52.10 | RichiH | notqpt: please stop |
| 21:52.13 | phogg | notqpt: it's not flooding if no one else sees it |
| 21:52.21 | RichiH | abrotman: the kernel is busy dying |
| 21:52.24 | thc | notqpt: go cook a batch of meth, and pass out, then die from the fumes, please. |
| 21:52.33 | abrotman | RichiH: oh .. ok .. perhaps fix that? :) |
| 21:52.44 | abrotman | haha |
| 21:52.49 | RichiH | abrotman: ha. ha. |
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| 21:52.59 | abrotman | RichiH: is the machine really dying ? |
| 21:53.15 | michael | resiak: where did u say the size can be changed? |
| 21:53.18 | michael | cuz icons so big |
| 21:53.20 | abrotman | !u |
| 21:53.20 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 21:53.25 | RichiH | abrotman: it's the image of a dead machine on a new machine |
| 21:53.26 | thc | !abrotman |
| 21:53.26 | dpkg | i heard abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 21:53.28 | RichiH | brb |
| 21:53.32 | resiak | michael: in the preferences? |
| 21:53.41 | abrotman | RichiH: and /dev/ fails to get populated ? |
| 21:54.01 | Ungy | !c |
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| 21:54.01 | dpkg | See, or S-E-E. If you're too lazy to spell it out, we're too lazy to help you. |
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| 21:54.10 | phogg | screw .info, .help would make a cool tld |
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| 21:54.23 | Ungy | !cuz |
| 21:54.23 | dpkg | cuz is probably you mean because?, or an affectionate name for your cousin (or cousin, according to dvs). |
| 21:54.27 | abrotman | phogg: youre.just.not.worth.the.help ? |
| 21:54.38 | notqpt | hi |
| 21:54.39 | notqpt | i'm back |
| 21:54.42 | notqpt | i love buttsex |
| 21:54.44 | abrotman | phogg: youre.beyond.help ? |
| 21:54.44 | RichiH | abrotman: it's full of old crap |
| 21:54.47 | phogg | abrotman: the possabilities are staggering |
| 21:54.54 | thc | notqpt: enjoy your short stay. |
| 21:54.58 | resiak | michael: I don't use 1.x, so can't remember where it was set |
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| 21:55.03 | RichiH | abrotman: do you think deleting everything could help? |
| 21:55.08 | notqpt | I'M FARTING |
| 21:55.09 | Ungy | notqpt, you like giving or recieving? |
| 21:55.11 | notqpt | AND I CAN'T STOP FARTING |
| 21:55.12 | notqpt | Ungy: yes |
| 21:55.13 | abrotman | RichiH: it could .. but i'd do it from a live CD |
| 21:55.18 | abrotman | !ops notqpt .. should be obvious |
| 21:55.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: notqpt .. should be obvious |
| 21:55.24 | relic | ... |
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| 21:55.32 | jelly | notqpt: are you a bot or just naturally stupid? |
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| 21:55.44 | abrotman | !beer caphuso and RichiH |
| 21:55.47 | resiak | Hahah |
| 21:55.47 | thingfish | thank you, caphuso. |
| 21:55.52 | resiak | RichiH won? |
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| 21:55.58 | RichiH | of course ;p |
| 21:56.00 | relic | never say fart |
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| 21:56.07 | resiak | !kingsleysmite abrotman |
| 21:56.08 | dpkg | abrotman: You're nothing but an a*s r*ping j*rk! |
| 21:56.08 | caphuso | RichiH: cheater! |
| 21:56.14 | RichiH | caphuso: mwahaah |
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| 21:56.40 | abrotman | RichiH: i doubt you could remove /dev/ while it's running .. but i think(and would hope) that it would get repopulated on a reboot |
| 21:56.51 | abrotman | (though maybe this depends on udev vs devfs |
| 21:56.51 | abrotman | ) |
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| 21:56.57 | RichiH | hmmk |
| 21:57.00 | RichiH | i will try that next |
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| 21:57.10 | relic | nice try |
| 21:57.13 | abrotman | RichiH: i might pop into #kernel and ask |
| 21:57.41 | resiak | abrotman: You can probably tell udev to recreate it, but I doubt it does it automagically. |
| 21:57.44 | doublehp | RichiH: man mknod |
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| 21:58.06 | abrotman | relic: try at what ? |
| 21:58.19 | guyzmo | abrotman - err... udev *gets* repopulated |
| 21:58.26 | RichiH | doublehp: MAKEDEV'ing the stuff did not work |
| 21:58.29 | relic | abrotman, remove /dev |
| 21:58.29 | abrotman | guyzmo: yes .. but does devfs ? |
| 21:58.34 | RichiH | brb |
| 21:58.35 | guyzmo | abrotman - of course too |
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| 21:58.43 | guyzmo | udev is repopulated using scripts |
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| 21:58.51 | abrotman | guyzmo: to what extent .. i know udev does *everything* .. but does devfs ? |
| 21:59.02 | resiak | abrotman: Well, I just successfully rm'd hdc and udev didn't recreate it. devfs would have not let it be deleted |
| 21:59.05 | guyzmo | while devfs creates a virtual fs |
| 21:59.11 | guyzmo | that is populated in kernel mode |
| 21:59.14 | resiak | abrotman: because devfs was implemented as a fs, whereas udev is userspace, hence the u |
| 21:59.16 | guyzmo | that's why devfs has been deprecated |
| 21:59.31 | doublehp | RichiH: how could fail ? mknod created device files directly interfaced with the kernel. If it fails, then you have problkems with your kernel, or your major/minors |
| 21:59.32 | guyzmo | resiak - well, we're talking in echo :) |
| 21:59.33 | abrotman | thank goodness .. udev is such a great replacement :) |
| 21:59.35 | seven_six_two | i just updated my friend's pc from sarge to etch...and now i have nothing except a quick browser in the kicker menu...and i can't seem to run synaptic from console... |
| 21:59.47 | resiak | guyzmo: Yes :) |
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| 21:59.54 | guyzmo | and devfs had such odd names... |
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| 22:00.09 | resiak | Oh arse, how do I make udev recreate hdc without rebooting? |
| 22:00.11 | guyzmo | btw, hi all ;) |
| 22:00.17 | stew | seven_six_two: why cant run synaptic? how about aptitude or apt-get? |
| 22:00.25 | stew | resiak: /etc/init.d/udev restart |
| 22:00.25 | seven_six_two | Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
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| 22:00.36 | stew | seven_six_two: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 22:00.37 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - echo $DISPLAY |
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| 22:00.46 | doublehp | resiak: hdc is just an interface. Why do you need to recreate a file ? rm; mknod/touch |
| 22:00.47 | karsten | seven_six_two: You need an X dispaly and/or your $DISPLAY env variable set. |
| 22:00.48 | resiak | stew: Nope. |
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| 22:00.59 | seven_six_two | even though I'm running kde right now? |
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| 22:01.04 | resiak | doublehp: That assumes I know hdc's major/minor numbers :) |
| 22:01.11 | karsten | seven_six_two: What guyzmo said. |
| 22:01.14 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - in a word, DISPLAY is not set, and you need to do 'DISPLAY=:0.0 synaptic' |
| 22:01.21 | doublehp | resiak: they are documented in linux/Documentations |
| 22:01.25 | karsten | resiak: 3 / <partition number> |
| 22:01.27 | resiak | doublehp: Don't worry, I do know :) |
| 22:01.27 | seven_six_two | k |
| 22:01.30 | karsten | resiak: Um. Hold that. |
| 22:01.36 | resiak | karsten: 22, 0 |
| 22:01.40 | karsten | resiak: Right. |
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| 22:01.50 | doublehp | resiak: there in every box two lists of devices: one in /usr, one in source linux tree |
| 22:01.50 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - RTFM about that, giving you the answer is not helping you... |
| 22:01.50 | karsten | resiak: 3 == /dev/hda |
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| 22:01.59 | resiak | doublehp: I know, I know... :) |
| 22:02.11 | resiak | doublehp: except you assume that everyone has a linux source tree |
| 22:02.22 | guyzmo | resiak - everyone should have :) |
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| 22:02.28 | myren | thats annoying how linux source tree requires a deb-src package |
| 22:02.31 | myren | erm, repository |
| 22:02.31 | doublehp | resiak: then, ask me for it, and I publish on HTTP |
| 22:02.40 | myren | it seems generaly useful enough so that it should be in the standard sitro |
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| 22:02.50 | seven_six_two | guyzmo, yeah. I guess I should. your answer didn't work anyhow |
| 22:02.56 | doublehp | resiak: internet acces... then you can grab a tree ! |
| 22:02.56 | thc | we should all plant linux source trees to celebrate the next arbor day |
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| 22:03.11 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - you didn't tell how you do launch synaptic |
| 22:03.13 | resiak | doublehp: What's this internet you speak ofl |
| 22:03.14 | doublehp | thc: :D |
| 22:03.16 | resiak | s/l/? |
| 22:03.26 | doublehp | resiak: then one you use to connect IRC. |
| 22:03.28 | seven_six_two | i was typing synaptic from root console |
| 22:03.30 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - I assumed you were doing it after a 'su -' in a shell in a terminal |
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| 22:03.39 | seven_six_two | yes |
| 22:03.50 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - then open another terminal |
| 22:03.50 | resiak | Why does everyone use su - rather than just su ? |
| 22:03.56 | guyzmo | type echo $DISPLAY |
| 22:03.57 | myren | thats what sux is for |
| 22:03.57 | karsten | !ops watch 85.100.66.194. |
| 22:03.58 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, greycat, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: watch 85.100.66.194. |
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| 22:04.01 | abrotman | resiak: shell |
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| 22:04.08 | karsten | resiak: we don't, we use sudo -i |
| 22:04.12 | abrotman | karsten: or ask richi ? |
| 22:04.15 | LoRez | karsten: /topic |
| 22:04.17 | stew | myren: it doesn't require deb-src repository |
| 22:04.18 | guyzmo | and in the root terminal do export DISPLAY="what the echo returned" |
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| 22:04.30 | LoRez | or not. |
| 22:04.33 | guyzmo | resiak - because a login shell is so much comfortable... |
| 22:04.35 | myren | stew: hrm. i'm not seeing any kernel sources or kernel tree's in my list |
| 22:04.35 | LoRez | guess it's gone. |
| 22:04.36 | karsten | LoRez: ?? |
| 22:04.38 | guyzmo | anyway |
| 22:04.39 | guyzmo | su sucks |
| 22:04.41 | seven_six_two | guyzmo, I did the echo, and nothing was returned |
| 22:04.42 | resiak | guyzmo: It is? I never noticed the difference. |
| 22:04.43 | stew | myren: what version of debian? |
| 22:04.50 | myren | stew: testing & unstable |
| 22:04.55 | guyzmo | why do everyone still use su ? |
| 22:04.56 | stew | myren: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 22:04.56 | karsten | guyzmo: su - sets root's environment rather than the user who su'd root. |
| 22:04.59 | guyzmo | sudo is so much better |
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| 22:05.03 | karsten | guyzmo: Everybody's an idiot. |
| 22:05.05 | hans_kraus | hola |
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| 22:05.07 | guyzmo | karsten - I know, tell that to resiak |
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| 22:05.18 | guyzmo | ke6isf - don't insult idiots |
| 22:05.25 | resiak | karsten: I've never noticed any problems from having my user's ENV rather than root's. |
| 22:05.25 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - are you in X11 ? |
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| 22:05.33 | seven_six_two | yes |
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| 22:05.42 | seven_six_two | just updated to etch last night... |
| 22:05.44 | karsten | resiak: Does your user's path include */sbin? |
| 22:05.44 | jelly | su works. It's shorter to write su - than sudo zsh. |
| 22:05.46 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - can you launch xlogo in a user terminal ? |
| 22:05.53 | seven_six_two | no |
| 22:05.56 | myren | stew: there is a 2.4 there. and the 2.6 from the kernel i myself built. |
| 22:06.08 | poppor | I've read alot about apt-get sources but still don't understand it. What source is default for stable sarge updates ? |
| 22:06.09 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - then, restart your X session |
| 22:06.24 | Syl_vain | hello, can't get gnome up & working. I tried to reconfigure it, reinstall it, reconfigure xfree86... but the problem remains the same: no screen available. |
| 22:06.26 | resiak | karsten: talkie ~ % echo $PATH; su |
| 22:06.27 | stew | myren: if you are on debian it would also list linux-source-2.6.12 and/or linux-source-2.6.14 |
| 22:06.28 | Syl_vain | what's wrong? |
| 22:06.33 | resiak | karsten: /home/will/bin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games |
| 22:06.49 | resiak | karsten: talkie /home/will # echo $PATH |
| 22:06.54 | resiak | karsten: /home/will/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
| 22:06.55 | guyzmo | the only caveat of sudo, is that I never remember how can I do file redirections with it |
| 22:06.58 | resiak | guyzmo: tee |
| 22:07.07 | guyzmo | like sudo echo "foo" > bar |
| 22:07.13 | guyzmo | resiak - same thing |
| 22:07.14 | resiak | !tell Syl_vain -about noscreensfound |
| 22:07.25 | resiak | guyzmo: sudo echo "foo" | sudo tee bar |
| 22:07.35 | guyzmo | useless use of the first sudo |
| 22:07.37 | guyzmo | but I got it |
| 22:07.38 | guyzmo | :) |
| 22:07.45 | guyzmo | hehe |
| 22:07.46 | myren | stew: oh, i was searching for kernel keyword, not linux this whole time |
| 22:07.54 | psychonate | Hmm, let's see if this growisofs works well for DVD burning. |
| 22:07.56 | guyzmo | but that sucks |
| 22:08.01 | hans_kraus | my xterm interprets the alt-key wrong. how can i correct this? |
| 22:08.10 | RichiH | karsten: ta |
| 22:08.13 | myren | why did 2.6.13 take so long to get a package for, but 2.6.14 was so quick? |
| 22:08.15 | guyzmo | I remember there was a different way someone showed me a while ago, but I don't remember |
| 22:08.16 | karsten | RichiH: Oi. |
| 22:08.17 | seven_six_two | guyzmo, nope. still no xlogo. or any other progs for that matter...dammit |
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| 22:08.27 | seven_six_two | well none in kicker |
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| 22:08.35 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - hm... |
| 22:08.39 | myren | seven_six_two: sux forwards your x credentials unlike su |
| 22:08.45 | stew | hans_kraus: put XTerm*eightBitControl: False into .Xdefaults and run xrdb -merge .Xdefaults |
| 22:08.46 | karsten | RichiH: Thanks. |
| 22:08.47 | SlayerXP | evening |
| 22:08.47 | myren | Bring back xroger! |
| 22:08.53 | myren | xroger >>>>>> xlogo |
| 22:08.53 | RichiH | karsten: heh, np :) |
| 22:08.57 | RichiH | off, again |
| 22:09.00 | seven_six_two | and i can't get the stupic sk98lin to stay loaded on reboot either |
| 22:09.08 | poppor | Can someone help? What apt-get sources do I need to use to get upgrades and patches for sarge ? |
| 22:09.09 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - you have a xterm ? |
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| 22:09.27 | seven_six_two | konsole |
| 22:09.28 | stew | hans_kraus: hmm and possibly XTerm*eightBitInput: false |
| 22:09.36 | seven_six_two | #locate sux |
| 22:09.39 | seven_six_two | not found |
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| 22:09.50 | myren | apt-get install sux |
| 22:09.59 | jelly | dpkg, tell poppor about sarge sources.list |
| 22:10.03 | stew | poppor: deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free |
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| 22:10.10 | seven_six_two | myren, easier said than done with no networking |
| 22:10.13 | guyzmo | poppor - I think there is old-stable or something like that... |
| 22:10.21 | myren | seven_six_two: alright, fine |
| 22:10.28 | poppor | thanks |
| 22:10.34 | stew | guyzmo: that has nothing to do with what he asked |
| 22:10.35 | guyzmo | poppor - use ftp on a debian site |
| 22:10.44 | guyzmo | errr |
| 22:10.45 | Andy837 | i've changed /etc/interfaces to static but now it wont connect to the net |
| 22:10.47 | Andy837 | i've got.... |
| 22:10.47 | guyzmo | stew - sorry |
| 22:10.49 | guyzmo | I'm getting tired |
| 22:10.58 | Andy837 | address 192.168.1.2 |
| 22:10.59 | guyzmo | poppor - ignore :) |
| 22:11.06 | Andy837 | netmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:11.09 | guyzmo | (misreading) |
| 22:11.14 | myren | seven_six_two: xauth nextract local.xauth :0 from the user account, su to what you wnat to be, xauth nmerge local.xauth |
| 22:11.16 | guyzmo | gotta go to bed |
| 22:11.17 | Andy837 | gateway 192.168.1.1 |
| 22:11.17 | guyzmo | :) |
| 22:11.20 | poppor | hehe |
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| 22:11.39 | hans_kraus | stew, hey thank you man with the second one it worked :) |
| 22:11.41 | hans_kraus | very nice |
| 22:11.49 | guyzmo | seven_six_two - gn, sorry for not helping you further |
| 22:11.49 | stew | seven_six_two: or instead of messing with xuth, just export XAUTHORITY=/home/otheruser/.Xauthority |
| 22:11.56 | guyzmo | ++ |
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| 22:12.20 | myren | learning to use xauth good |
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| 22:12.48 | myren | its dead fucking simple. extract the auth for :0 into local.xauth. change to what you want to be. import the auth. |
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| 22:13.11 | Andy837 | any idea why my debian box has gone offline? |
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| 22:13.19 | stew | not as simple as XAUTHORITY=~stew/.Xauthority though |
| 22:13.26 | myren | Andy837: i sent a swarm of locusts after it |
| 22:13.30 | abrotman | magnetic: does this channel have the same charge? ... you keep running away |
| 22:13.31 | myren | true enough stew |
| 22:13.36 | stew | Andy837: you kicked the ethernet cable and ruined it forever |
| 22:13.43 | Andy837 | lol |
| 22:13.49 | Gnea | !tell Andy837 about interfaces |
| 22:13.56 | myren | someone write a msg with my name at the end. i'm not sure if my regex is working. |
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| 22:14.03 | Gnea | it's /etc/network/interfaces not /etc/interfaces |
| 22:14.08 | abrotman | what's wrong myren |
| 22:14.11 | jelly | stew: or symlink ~root/.Xauthority -> ~user/ |
| 22:14.19 | myren | its only highlighting if myren is at the beginning |
| 22:14.24 | myren | as i suspected |
| 22:14.24 | Gnea | Andy837: you also need to define the network |
| 22:14.37 | myren | thanks abrotman |
| 22:14.39 | stew | myren: /hilight -full myren |
| 22:14.44 | seven_six_two | myren, I did what you said and it worked. I've never seen any of that before... |
| 22:14.50 | Andy837 | !tell Andy837 about interfaces |
| 22:15.19 | remyforbes777 | whats the debian 64 channel called |
| 22:15.22 | myren | seven_six_two: i explained it a coupl lines up. stew's suggestions works equally as well. its all Xauthority stuffings |
| 22:15.31 | seven_six_two | so now, and i use a full module path in the /etc/modules file? |
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| 22:15.45 | myren | stew: nice, thanks |
| 22:15.46 | stew | remyforbes777: #debian-amd64 is probably the one you are looking for |
| 22:15.49 | azeem | seven_six_two: no, just the name of the module |
| 22:15.51 | remyforbes777 | ahh thanks |
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| 22:16.18 | tarzeau | can someone make an .ogg and .wav of silence? |
| 22:16.19 | stew | myren: you could drop the -full even, i need it becuase i'm tired of hearing about martha STEWart and the john STEWart show :) |
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| 22:16.42 | dusk | meatballs |
| 22:16.49 | meatballs | mm |
| 22:16.55 | myren | what channels do /you/ hang out in? |
| 22:16.58 | myren | ;) |
| 22:17.51 | seven_six_two | ok because i have 2 with the same name, but in different kernel/drivers directories |
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| 22:17.56 | seven_six_two | i'll try rebooooing tthe other kernel |
| 22:18.05 | bbrazil | tarzeau: rox? |
| 22:18.12 | tarzeau | bbrazil: sox you mean? |
| 22:18.24 | myren | anyone know a program which will let me get the color value of a pixel in x? i really like openbox's cthulian background color. |
| 22:18.26 | abrotman | tarzeau: cat /dev/zero ? |
| 22:18.26 | bbrazil | tarzeau: thats the one. note there may be copyright issues |
| 22:18.47 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: are you in zurich at friday? (AGV) |
| 22:18.51 | jelly | myren: xcolorsel |
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| 22:19.02 | tarzeau | tiCo89: AGV? |
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| 22:19.06 | jcole | oops |
| 22:19.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: but i need it to be .wav |
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| 22:19.18 | myren | jelly: thanks |
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| 22:19.47 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: extraordinary general assembly (or how to translate "ausserordentliche generalversammlung") =) |
| 22:20.04 | tarzeau | tiCo89: nope |
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| 22:20.19 | stew | tarzeau: record with sound-recorder with the mic muted? |
| 22:20.31 | dusk | tarzeau: ill compose one for you, but it will cost you 50 bucks |
| 22:20.35 | stew | tarzeau: and optionally pass it through sox's silence filter? |
| 22:20.53 | tarzeau | stew: guess i'll have to do it myself |
| 22:20.58 | stew | tarzeau: actually sox's silence is no good |
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| 22:21.03 | tiCo89 | tarzeau: oh, why =( |
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| 22:21.47 | bobo | guys |
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| 22:22.08 | bobo | My bash supports HTTP commands ... is this something normal and I just found it or is it new? |
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| 22:22.24 | randomity | bobo: what? |
| 22:22.33 | bobo | I do GET , POST , HEAD etc. on my bash |
| 22:22.40 | stew | bobo: you have libwww-perl installed |
| 22:22.40 | bobo | and it responds just like a HTTP server |
| 22:22.47 | bobo | oh |
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| 22:23.08 | bobo | Hehe doing a GET /etc HTTP/1.0 shows me my etc in HTML format and has an HTTP header =D |
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| 22:24.02 | stew | bobo: right, or "HEAD debian.org" would show you stuff like what apache version they are running |
| 22:24.27 | bobo | stew I know the HTTP protocol |
| 22:24.31 | bobo | well partially |
| 22:24.39 | bobo | but seeing my bash respond to me with it |
| 22:24.44 | bobo | that was wicked sick |
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| 22:25.04 | bobo | ohhhh |
| 22:25.19 | bobo | you mean using HEAD can be used for that matter |
| 22:25.27 | bobo | instead of manually netcating and sending it eh? |
| 22:25.35 | kneecaps | is there a fix for hotplug not installing on sid at the moment? |
| 22:25.37 | bobo | and it'll construct a full HTTP header to go with it? |
| 22:25.38 | stew | bobo: i mean type "HEAD debian.org" on the command line |
| 22:25.43 | bobo | ahh |
| 22:25.51 | bobo | stew, yeah I got your point |
| 22:26.07 | bobo | Does it construct a full HTTP header along with the HEAD command? |
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| 22:26.59 | bobo | I mean like Host: Connection: tags etc. |
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| 22:27.18 | stew | bobo: yes, if you want to see, run "nc -l -p 8888" then in another terminal, run HEAD http://localhost:8888 |
| 22:27.25 | bobo | oh yeah good idea |
| 22:27.41 | bobo | but anyways that was pretty rockin' |
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| 22:28.29 | grendal_prime | hey whenever i try and install gambas..synaptic tells me it is going to uninstall a shitload of other things...wich all seem to be part of kde |
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| 22:29.49 | mike_sol | grendal_prime, what version of debian |
| 22:29.56 | mboso_ | If you have an onboard raincontroller, do you need ot have raid support in the kernel? I thought it was a hardware thing. |
| 22:29.57 | grendal_prime | i cant seem to find the connection but...i mean tis werid it really wants to just tear out the desktop |
| 22:30.00 | grendal_prime | hmm |
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| 22:30.06 | grendal_prime | well testing for the most part |
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| 22:30.08 | shyko | wenas |
| 22:30.12 | mboso_ | \quit |
| 22:30.17 | mike_sol | grendal_prime, it probably conflicts with something like QT or requires a previous version |
| 22:30.19 | grendal_prime | i mean i do have unstable office 2.0 on here.. |
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| 22:30.23 | shyko | alguien me dice ke programa me puedo bajar de synaptic para reproducir archivos mp3 |
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| 22:30.51 | mike_sol | !spanish |
| 22:30.51 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 22:31.23 | grendal_prime | kinda frustrating |
| 22:31.28 | abrotman | he wants to duplicate mp3s ? |
| 22:31.53 | stew | grendal_prime: gambas appears to have qt dependencies, which is probably causing you to upgrade kde, which is in transition to 3.4 right now |
| 22:31.55 | jelly | reproduce == play? |
| 22:31.59 | grendal_prime | now..that is simple not legal |
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| 22:32.08 | abrotman | jelly: not sure |
| 22:32.08 | thingfish | jelly: no |
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| 22:32.17 | mboso | does raid support need to be enabled in the kernel if you have an oboard raid controller? I'm trying to install linux but its not recgonizing my raid0 configuration. |
| 22:32.20 | mike_sol | grendal_prime, if you go to the console and apt-get install gamas, see what it says near the top. read carefully |
| 22:32.24 | thingfish | pretty sure it means just what it looks like it means. |
| 22:32.26 | mike_sol | it should show you the conflicj |
| 22:32.31 | jelly | thingfish: it is in italian. |
| 22:32.33 | grendal_prime | hmmm stew ya i think your right...but im wondering why it doesnt want to upgrade those instead..of tear them out |
| 22:32.47 | thingfish | jelly: no it isn't. |
| 22:32.47 | gkout | hello guys |
| 22:32.50 | abrotman | yay babelfish somebody says ke program to me I can be lowered of synaptic to reproduce archives mp3 |
| 22:32.58 | gkout | the question is debian or centos? |
| 22:32.58 | jelly | thingfish: riprodurre? |
| 22:33.06 | thingfish | "reproducir" |
| 22:33.06 | stew | grendal_prime: parts of kde were removed from testing so that the transition could happen and haven't re-entered testing from sid yet |
| 22:33.26 | thingfish | I didn't see any riprodurre...let me look back farther. |
| 22:33.28 | gkout | some argumens say: Weak point for debian: Too much politics between developers. |
| 22:33.39 | grendal_prime | hmmm any major...nightmare with that upgrade? |
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| 22:33.57 | jelly | thingfish: I'm guessing an unknown latin language, and from context, I'd say the guy's looking for a mp3 player. |
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| 22:34.17 | stew | i'm guessing he's wondering why he can't find lame |
| 22:34.19 | thingfish | jelly: what shyko wrote was for the most part perfect spanish. |
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| 22:34.52 | mike_sol | gkout: centos is just rhel, right? |
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| 22:34.55 | thingfish | except for the "ke". |
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| 22:35.37 | jelly | thingfish: so what does it mean then? |
| 22:36.00 | peterS | <resiak> stew: peterS is wrong ;) |
| 22:36.08 | stew | peterS: he recanted |
| 22:36.10 | myren | wow, my ghetto-tastic mp3 player identifies itself under USB as AMP3PLAYER |
| 22:36.15 | myren | a mp3 player |
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| 22:36.39 | thingfish | jelly: "Can someone tell me what program that I can download with synaptic in order to reproduce/copy mp3 files?" |
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| 22:37.00 | Andy837 | can some1 talk me through setting my interfaces up please then i can try to learn a little better |
| 22:37.18 | peterS | stew: ah yeah, I see now |
| 22:37.30 | gkout | mike_sol: yep its rhel |
| 22:37.39 | Hannibal | hello. I'm having a problem with my debian firewall. It has dnsmasq installed, and while I can resolve addresses from my firewall (when connected using ssh), I cannot resolve them from my home pc (the one I'm currently connecting from) |
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| 22:37.46 | Hannibal | in other words, dns forwarding is apparently not working. |
| 22:37.54 | thingfish | centos is rhel re-constructed from the red hat source packages. |
| 22:38.06 | gkout | yep |
| 22:38.07 | Hannibal | ipconfig /all (this is a windows box) reports the correct ip address for the dns server (ie, my firewall) |
| 22:38.26 | myren | anyone know how i can see what usb-storage kernel module is doing |
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| 22:38.32 | myren | i cant find the #$#@ drive |
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| 22:38.44 | azeem | myren: the kernel logs should tell |
| 22:38.46 | stew | gkout: who's to say which has more politics between the developers, one's developers carry everything out in public and the other behind closed doors |
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| 22:39.02 | jelly | thingfish: are you sure that reproducir means "copy", and not "play". Cause in a similar language this internationalism means "play". |
| 22:39.07 | Hannibal | would anyone know what might cause this problem? :) |
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| 22:39.16 | abrotman | stew: -private ? |
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| 22:39.31 | stew | abrotman: yeah i realized that after i hit enter... thought it might slide :) |
| 22:39.37 | abrotman | hehe |
| 22:39.37 | jelly | thingfish: it makes more sense. |
| 22:39.38 | myren | MOTHER OF GOD, no usb-storage drivers for this... no, no... my usb hd works. this flash player has to work too |
| 22:39.41 | Hannibal | (I connected here by looking up the ip on the firewall box using ssh, and using that to connect to the server) |
| 22:39.42 | thingfish | jelly: my spanish is certainly imperfect...sure, it's possible I suppose. Let me research. |
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| 22:40.05 | thingfish | jelly: well since when do people's postings in here have to make sense? :) |
| 22:41.06 | jelly | that too |
| 22:41.25 | thingfish | jelly: it would almost have to be "tocar" if it meant "play" (as in play a piece of music). |
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| 22:41.58 | nico8481 | hi |
| 22:42.00 | jelly | not a piece, but a copy of it on a medium. |
| 22:42.18 | thingfish | jelly: my info states "reproducir" means "to reproduce". |
| 22:42.30 | thingfish | so it looks to be a happy cognate. |
| 22:42.43 | jelly | babelfish says that too, but I trust my guts more. ;-) |
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| 22:43.07 | thingfish | no, don't trust your guts, trust the dictionary(-ies). |
| 22:43.21 | nico8481 | any idea what's the difference between "quality" and "preset" in the following gstreamer pipeline? : |
| 22:43.22 | nico8481 | audio/x-raw-int,rate=44100,channels=2 ! lame name=enc quality=0 preset=1002 |
| 22:43.32 | nico8481 | and why are both needed? |
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| 22:43.51 | gkout | stew: one gets decisions done in a reasonable time frame (Red Hat) the other spends eons trying to reach a consensus (debian) |
| 22:43.59 | Hannibal | okay... I'm guessing listing everything that's listening on my ports may help - how do I do that? |
| 22:44.04 | Hannibal | (sorry for such a newbie question) |
| 22:44.24 | asg | Hannibal: /msg dpkg open ports |
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| 22:44.55 | _gass_ | hello ppl ... how can i check if a raid1 is running? |
| 22:45.09 | _gass_ | i have maybe one disk failure, but i want to check |
| 22:45.14 | Hannibal | asg: thanks :) |
| 22:45.15 | stew | gkout: for the most part, debian doesn't end up making many decisions, it entrusts its developers. look at debian-vote to see how often a real decision is made |
| 22:45.19 | asg | Hannibal: you're welcome |
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| 22:46.35 | madclicker | how do i disable DPMS in X? |
| 22:46.39 | noir | acpi |
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| 22:46.54 | Hannibal | okay... so I get several entries like this one: |
| 22:46.56 | Hannibal | dnsmasq 4899 nobody 4u IPv4 8072 TCP *:domain (LISTEN) |
| 22:47.00 | Hannibal | however, still no joy. |
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| 22:47.14 | Hannibal | (I have tried restarting and manual stopping/starting of dnsmasq) |
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| 22:47.59 | _gass_ | does anyone here runs raid 1? |
| 22:48.00 | jelly | gkout: go with what you're more familiar with. |
| 22:48.04 | _gass_ | for helping me? |
| 22:48.11 | Hannibal | of course, I'm still very open to suggestions :( |
| 22:48.13 | peterS | _gass_: I'm sure several people do. what's your question? |
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| 22:48.38 | jelly | madclicker: xset dpms ... something. rtfm for xset |
| 22:48.43 | _gass_ | peterS: i have this error in dmesg: raid1: md0, not all disks are operational -- trying to recover array |
| 22:49.00 | peterS | _gass_: you can see which disks are online with 'cat /proc/mdstat' |
| 22:49.06 | _gass_ | peterS: and want to see if anyone indicates as tool to check if the array is running, or not |
| 22:49.19 | _gass_ | peterS: thanks |
| 22:49.35 | stew | madclicker: /msg dpkg screen blanking |
| 22:49.46 | peterS | _gass_: the general tool to use for raid stuff is 'mdadm', but you can get basic status information with just 'cat /proc/mdstat'. |
| 22:50.03 | _gass_ | peterS: so .. only one one disk appears ... so ... for a raid1 array of 2 discs ... one is missing, right? |
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| 22:50.12 | jsan | my frineds y try to command webinfo -a suario%password and was returned this error error code was NT_STATUS_NO_SUCHUSER , plaintext password authenticatios failed. Whats i resolve tihs problem ?? |
| 22:50.12 | dusk | hey, im trying to get pokerstars to work in linux, can I do this from wine? and if so, what is that program I need to open up EXEs? |
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| 22:50.25 | peterS | _gass_: raid1 can be any number of disks, but if you have just 2 disks, then apparently one is offline for whatever reason, yes. |
| 22:50.26 | jsan | help me please |
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| 22:50.28 | jsan | my frineds y try to command webinfo -a suario%password and was returned this error error code was NT_STATUS_NO_SUCHUSER , plaintext password authenticatios failed. Whats i resolve tihs problem ?? |
| 22:50.46 | dusk | !pokerstars |
| 22:50.46 | jelly | dusk: just run wine file.exe |
| 22:50.54 | dusk | jely: its an installer |
| 22:51.09 | jelly | well, run the installer! |
| 22:51.19 | jelly | dusk: it might even work. |
| 22:51.19 | _gass_ | peterS: thanks |
| 22:51.21 | madclicker | thanks stew |
| 22:51.22 | Gnea | !apc |
| 22:51.22 | noir | ummm |
| 22:51.27 | jsan | my frineds y try to command webinfo -a suario%password and was returned this error error code was NT_STATUS_NO_SUCHUSER , plaintext password authenticatios failed. Whats i resolve tihs problem ?? |
| 22:51.27 | Gnea | !ups |
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| 22:51.54 | thingfish | jelly: I asked in #debian-es, and they all said it means what it looks like it means: to reproduce. |
| 22:51.56 | Gnea | blah |
| 22:52.01 | Gnea | looks like dpkg crashed again :/ |
| 22:52.04 | nvz | jsan: don't repeat. |
| 22:52.22 | stew | !test |
| 22:52.25 | nvz | jsan: what language do you speak? |
| 22:52.36 | jelly | thingfish: The thing is, do they know what that word means in English. ;-) |
| 22:52.38 | dpkg | rumour has it, ups is (Uninterruptible Power Supply) This is a device that contains a battery and some circuitry to supply your computer with power for a limited time (depending on the battery) if there is any sort of interruption in the outlet power. or at http://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/ups/. THE WORLDS MOST HORRIBLE SHIPPING COMPANY, or apparently teh nu kewl speling of oops. mgeups software for debian is at ... |
| 22:52.38 | stew | !br |
| 22:52.39 | jsan | nvz portuguese |
| 22:52.44 | dpkg | Yes, stew, you're still online. |
| 22:52.46 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:52.57 | noir | my system hangs, then i stop the acpi in kernel line for boot, but, is there a way to enable acpi to autoshutdown and fix the hang problem? |
| 22:53.05 | thingfish | ah, portugues! A mais bela lingua no mundo. |
| 22:53.05 | jsan | nvz is pssible help me please ? |
| 22:53.09 | mboso | If you're going to create a software raid0 setup in linux, do you need to configure your onboard raid controller as well? |
| 22:53.18 | jsan | hehehehe |
| 22:53.21 | mike_sol | mboso, no |
| 22:53.23 | koshnaranek | mboso somewhat |
| 22:53.28 | dusk | jelly: it "installed" but gave me an error.. where exactly did it install to? |
| 22:53.28 | nvz | jsan: you may get more help in #debian-br |
| 22:53.30 | mike_sol | the hardware raid simply needs to be disabled |
| 22:53.39 | mike_sol | and have the drives show up like normal |
| 22:53.45 | jelly | dusk: ~/.wine/fake_windows I think. |
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| 22:54.07 | Hannibal | I'm going to try again I suppose... |
| 22:54.19 | mike_sol | mboso, why are you doing raid 0 though? it's a good way to lose tons of data |
| 22:54.25 | Hannibal | would anyone know what would prevent dnsmasq from working properly with a windows xp machine? |
| 22:54.30 | Hannibal | as in, all of a sudden |
| 22:54.42 | Hannibal | while dns resolving on the box on which dnsmasq runs works fine, still. |
| 22:55.00 | nvz | RTFL? |
| 22:55.05 | Hannibal | restarting dnsmasq didn't help. |
| 22:55.14 | mike_sol | Hannibal, what does nslookup say on the windows machine |
| 22:55.18 | mike_sol | when you try to look things up |
| 22:55.30 | jelly | dusk: I might not work at all, or might not work correctly. That's beta software for you. |
| 22:55.42 | noir | how do i know if X server is failing? |
| 22:55.44 | dusk | jelly: it worked :) |
| 22:56.03 | mike_sol | Noir, what sort of symptoms do you have |
| 22:56.08 | thingfish | jelly: well, I take that back...someone said, given the context, it means "play". |
| 22:56.37 | Hannibal | mike_sol: it's too much to paste here and I can't reach pastebin using my browser on that machine >_> |
| 22:56.43 | jelly | thingfish: yay me and my Italian from the primary school! |
| 22:56.47 | mike_sol | Hannibal, #flood |
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| 22:57.31 | noir | ok |
| 22:57.38 | noir | mike_sol first, when booting up everything is ok |
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| 22:57.46 | thingfish | jelly: hehe |
| 22:57.54 | Hannibal | mike_sol: done. It looks like it looks up okay, but the windows machine doesn't accept its answer or something? |
| 22:58.10 | mboso | mike_sol: going with raid0 for the performance boost |
| 22:58.17 | jsan | my friends in debian-br im not have answer !! |
| 22:58.44 | mboso | mike_sol: Its not on my main machine so its no biggie if it dies. |
| 22:58.45 | noir | mike_sol but if the system stand alone, i mean, just powered, in about 1 to 2 hours it hangs |
| 22:58.59 | mike_sol | noir: heat issues? |
| 22:59.10 | noir | mike_sol and no response from anything |
| 22:59.28 | mike_sol | sounds like hardware |
| 22:59.30 | noir | mike_sol heat?, sorry i dont get it |
| 22:59.41 | mike_sol | overheating i mean |
| 22:59.54 | noir | mike_sol i have to shut off, then power on again |
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| 23:02.50 | noir | mike_sol umm, and how to check that? |
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| 23:03.17 | mike_sol | noir, check your bios |
| 23:03.22 | mike_sol | might have a pc health section |
| 23:03.40 | mike_sol | do it right after it crashes and see if the temps are hot (as in 50-55 and up) on the cpu |
| 23:03.46 | mike_sol | also check to make sure the voltages are close |
| 23:03.54 | mike_sol | thirdly, run memtest86 |
| 23:04.12 | Robbie1490 | hey |
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| 23:04.17 | yonkeltron | what flavour of compression is used in debs? |
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| 23:04.29 | noir | mike_sol ummm, so up to 55 is bad? 55°C or 55°F |
| 23:04.31 | peterS | yonkeltron: deflate |
| 23:04.34 | mike_sol | 'C |
| 23:04.37 | peterS | yonkeltron: or optionally bzip2 |
| 23:04.41 | stew | yonkeltron: they are ar archives |
| 23:04.49 | yonkeltron | ah |
| 23:04.51 | Robbie1490 | does debian only work on pretty good spec computers? |
| 23:04.53 | peterS | yonkeltron: but almost always deflate (aka 'gzip') |
| 23:05.00 | mike_sol | Robbie1490, it'll work on anything you throw it at |
| 23:05.07 | yonkeltron | peterS: had a feeling..... |
| 23:05.08 | mike_sol | as long as the machine boots |
| 23:05.13 | peterS | Robbie1490: it doesn't do well with less than 16 MB of main memory |
| 23:05.14 | stew | Robbie1490: it requires a 486 |
| 23:05.18 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: i'm running debian on my p133 |
| 23:05.35 | Robbie1490 | will a computer with like 64 megs of ram work |
| 23:05.37 | mike_sol | peterS, just get the old lowmem disks and you can do it in 4mb |
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| 23:05.39 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: it take awhile to upgrade stuff but it's a rock solid system for what i use it for |
| 23:05.41 | Robbie1490 | and a ati something |
| 23:05.48 | thingfish | thank goodness, it's finally happy hour. |
| 23:05.50 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: it'll run like a dream |
| 23:05.53 | mike_sol | it oughta work Robbie1490 |
| 23:05.54 | peterS | mike_sol: that's cheating to say "use an older release". *any* OS runs in 4 MB if you use an old enough release |
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| 23:06.08 | mike_sol | peterS, go run minix on a 286 somewhere :P |
| 23:06.14 | Robbie1490 | how many cds does it take? |
| 23:06.21 | _gass_ | peterS: sorry ... but ... need confirmation: only one disk working? http://joaquina.tecklog.com/~gass/proc_mdstat_so_1_disco.log |
| 23:06.28 | peterS | Robbie1490: most people just download the netinst (about 100 MB) CD and install everything else off the internet |
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| 23:06.48 | Robbie1490 | alright cool |
| 23:06.55 | Robbie1490 | now all i have to do is find a cd lol |
| 23:07.14 | peterS | _gass_: yes. the "[U_] |
| 23:07.24 | mike_sol | you can use disks if it comes down to it, Robbie1490. but a cd's better |
| 23:07.31 | noir | mike_sol ouch, but is the normal temp, i least a think it is, since new |
| 23:07.35 | peterS | _gass_: the "[U_]" part means one drive is up-to-date ("U") and the second is missing ("_") |
| 23:07.42 | Robbie1490 | peter can u give me a good link? |
| 23:08.08 | mike_sol | Noir, memtest86 would be my next step then |
| 23:08.12 | peterS | Robbie1490: www.debian.org, the download links for the stable release should be pretty easy to find |
| 23:08.12 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: i once installed debian on a dell latitude ls using 2 floppies and network connection. that being said, save yourself the trouble and use the netinst cd. it's a really great tool |
| 23:08.22 | noir | mike_sol done, but no errors found |
| 23:08.24 | Gnea | Okay, I've got this USB-based APC 725 UPS and plugs in and works. But the data cable going to a usb port doesn't seem to work - it shows up in lsusb just fine, but when I go to run apcupsd it self-terminates right away without a proper answer. config is here: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1151 |
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| 23:09.00 | peterS | Robbie1490: the link labeled "Network install" on the main page is what you probably want |
| 23:09.00 | noir | mike_sol i let memtest for 3 hours and no errors |
| 23:09.03 | _gass_ | peterS: thank you |
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| 23:09.25 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: make sure you go stable..... |
| 23:09.46 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: sarge is your friend right now! shake hands and have a ball |
| 23:09.46 | Robbie1490 | peter would i have to do it on the computer i want to install it on |
| 23:09.51 | Robbie1490 | like go to the page |
| 23:09.51 | thingfish | my debian is the only stable thing in my life. |
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| 23:10.10 | peterS | Robbie1490: you can download a CD image and create a CD on any computer that has the capability of writing CDs |
| 23:10.11 | yonkeltron | Robbie1490: you can download and burn the install cd on any computer...... |
| 23:10.12 | madclicker | where can i get k3b for etch? |
| 23:10.16 | stew | Robbie1490: the install guide is here: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/index.html |
| 23:10.17 | peterS | Robbie1490: same with the floppy disk images |
| 23:10.27 | stew | madclicker: there is no k3b for etch currently |
| 23:10.36 | madclicker | bahh |
| 23:10.43 | Robbie1490 | see the computer im on now doesnt have a floppy since most new ones dont lol |
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| 23:10.46 | stew | madclicker: you can download and install sid's package or wait for it to re-enter etch |
| 23:10.51 | Robbie1490 | but i guess i can find a cd somewhere |
| 23:10.52 | thingfish | madclicker: maybe try graveman or gnomebaker. |
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| 23:11.11 | looksaus | I want to scale a pdf or ps with two a4 pages to one a3 ps with the same two a4 pages on it |
| 23:11.18 | madclicker | stew,thingfish, thanks |
| 23:11.21 | looksaus | any suggetions on how to do this exactly? |
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| 23:11.42 | looksaus | I've been fiddling with pdfnup, psresize, psnup,... but the result just isn't right |
| 23:11.43 | thingfish | sure thing, madclicker my man. |
| 23:12.11 | peterS | Robbie1490: yeah, your options are a bit limited. you can boot from CD or if you have set up a network boot server on some other computer, you can probably boot directly off the network. that's a lot of trouble though. |
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| 23:12.21 | thingfish | I wonder if there are any hip-hop groups that sing about debian. |
| 23:12.46 | _gass_ | peterS: in my raid's case, can it be the other disk the original? and is only one copying? |
| 23:13.08 | Robbie1490 | you can only boot or does it format hdd and make it work all the time without cd |
| 23:13.14 | jsan | my friends i try to command webinfo -a user%password and was returned this error error code was NT_STATUS_NO_SUCHUSER , plaintext password authenticatios failed. Whats i resolve tihs problem ? |
| 23:13.27 | thc | thingfish: i doubt it, but mr. rogers used to sing about Gentoo |
| 23:13.34 | peterS | Robbie1490: I'm only talking about booting the installer. once the installer has finished, you will be able to boot the hard drive directly. |
| 23:13.41 | thingfish | thc: he was a squirrel. Figures. |
| 23:13.45 | thc | hah |
| 23:13.45 | stew | i have heard rap in esperanto before, that was scary enough |
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| 23:13.57 | Gnea | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1152 <--- here's some dmesg info as well. i can cat /dev/usb/hiddev0 and it hangs, but the daemon isn't communicating with it right |
| 23:14.04 | peterS | _gass_: I have no idea why you have only one disk online instead of two. could be a disk failure or your disk is unplugged or who knows what |
| 23:14.05 | thingfish | yikes, that does sound scary, stew. |
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| 23:14.22 | noir | ok, i got another problem, or a least i think is a problem, my X server some times add a few noise to the screen, but as far as it goes is only on web browser, so, any suggestions |
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| 23:14.44 | stew | although its got to be an easy language to write lyrics for since all nounds end in o | on | oj | ojn, makes for easy ryming |
| 23:14.45 | Gnea | noir: what web browser? |
| 23:15.11 | peterS | noir: chances are, it is not the fault of the browser. any application that draws a lot of stuff quickly will probably do the same thing |
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| 23:16.24 | noir | ok, is firerfox, and it appears more frecuently while scrolling |
| 23:16.42 | Gnea | noir: does it happen with mozilla-browser or konqueror? |
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| 23:17.28 | Gnea | so no one here is familiar with setting up a USB APC UPS - great. |
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| 23:18.01 | Robbie1490 | Download a minimal bootable CD image (or a couple of floppy disk images). Are you sure you really need the full CDs? You can just get the basic installation system - it will download the rest of the distribution if and when needed during the installation. |
| 23:18.05 | Robbie1490 | download that one? |
| 23:18.15 | peterS | Robbie1490: should be fine |
| 23:18.22 | thingfish | Gnea: no one in #debian has any free cash, that's why. As soon as a Debian user gets cash, s/he goes and buys beer and pot with it. |
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| 23:18.38 | peterS | Robbie1490: assuming the computer you are installing Debian onto has an Internet connection available |
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| 23:19.17 | Robbie1490 | yes but do i need to be on that computer now to download this one? |
| 23:19.21 | noir | never tried |
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| 23:19.41 | Robbie1490 | but the old one has no cd writer, so im guessing make the cd image |
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| 23:19.50 | amorphix | hi guys |
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| 23:20.04 | amorphix | anyone know what might cause an error like this: rpc.statd[2812]: Received erroneous SM_UNMON request from tecra for 192.168.1.1 |
| 23:20.11 | peterS | Robbie1490: you'll need a CD. how you write a CD from the downloaded CD image is really up to you |
| 23:20.19 | Gnea | thingfish: i am aware of how it sometimes works here |
| 23:20.50 | Gnea | thingfish: i am also aware that i help anyone out at random intervals with just about anything "just because i feel like it" |
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| 23:21.04 | amorphix | hi |
| 23:21.04 | noir | and for now, my worst fail is the system hangs, but as mike_sol says, when it happens again i check the temp on CPU |
| 23:21.08 | Gnea | apparantly, that sort of behavior is frowned upon. |
| 23:21.16 | thingfish | Gnea: you do an awful lot of helping out, very true. IT's sad you can't find assistance when *you* need it. |
| 23:21.32 | Gnea | thingfish: exactly. thus, fuck you all. |
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| 23:21.34 | Gnea | :) |
| 23:21.37 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:21.40 | Blisaed | i'm having trouble getting alsa to work with my m-audio fasttrack sound card which is an external USB sound card, can anyone help? |
| 23:21.42 | Hannibal | okay. I'm still having dnsmasq problems. |
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| 23:21.51 | Gnea | Hannibal: sucks to be you. |
| 23:21.55 | thingfish | Gnea: I'd need a permission slip from your mother first. |
| 23:21.56 | thc | !kingsleysmite Gnea |
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| 23:21.59 | dpkg | Gnea: You're nothing but a p*nis f*cking l*sbian! |
| 23:22.01 | Gnea | Hannibal: what's the problem, seriously? |
| 23:22.12 | thc | uh, what is a penis fucking lesbian? |
| 23:22.16 | Hannibal | Gnea: lookups from my client windows machine fail :) |
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| 23:22.23 | thingfish | thc: not a lesbian, I'd say offhand. |
| 23:22.24 | Gnea | thc: a transvestite? |
| 23:22.27 | thc | i thought lesbians didn't like penises |
| 23:22.28 | Blisaed | i'm having trouble getting alsa to work with my m-audio fasttrack sound card which is an external USB sound card, can anyone help? |
| 23:22.30 | thc | haha |
| 23:22.32 | peterS | Gnea: |
| 23:22.34 | peterS | !qotd52 |
| 23:22.34 | dpkg | <orangey_> has *nobody* here tried to dock a KDE icon into gnome? <orangey_> man. This is totally a karma thing. I didn't help somebody the other day when I knew the answer just because I wanted to watch a simpsons episode instead. <orangey_> I thought buddha would understand. |
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| 23:22.50 | Hannibal | Gnea: everything seems to be okay when looking at nslookup output, except for 'Server: UnKnown |
| 23:22.51 | Gnea | Hannibal: what did you set the dns server to? |
| 23:22.57 | Hannibal | Gnea: on what machine. |
| 23:23.01 | Hannibal | both machines use dhcp |
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| 23:23.21 | Gnea | Hannibal: well each machine has its own /etc/resolv.conf or windows config |
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| 23:23.32 | Blisaed | hmm |
| 23:23.35 | Hannibal | right. Windows gets it via dhcp. |
| 23:23.36 | Robbie1490 | Sweden: cdimage.debian.org: [alpha] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc] |
| 23:23.42 | Robbie1490 | what do those mean |
| 23:23.53 | peterS | Robbie1490: those are types of computers |
| 23:23.57 | Blisaed | means what kind of pc |
| 23:24.03 | Gnea | Hannibal: iirc, dnsmasq runs a lightweight dns server |
| 23:24.09 | Hannibal | Gnea: yes, it does |
| 23:24.11 | noir | ok, c u next time, im going to make a mem test once again |
| 23:24.12 | Blisaed | amd intel etc |
| 23:24.13 | Hannibal | it's not authorative. |
| 23:24.18 | gothtec | where does mysql store data? can I possibly extract a mysql database from a crashed server? |
| 23:24.25 | peterS | Robbie1490: if you have a Mac, you want [powerpc]. if not, you probably want [i386]. |
| 23:24.28 | Hannibal | the linux resolv.conf file is okay |
| 23:24.30 | Gnea | Hannibal: of course not, it's just a dns server, not a dhcp server :) |
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| 23:24.37 | Robbie1490 | ok thanks peter |
| 23:24.38 | Gnea | Hannibal: or it tries to do both heh |
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| 23:24.46 | Hannibal | Gnea: the odd thing, I can lookup fine from the linux box |
| 23:24.47 | stew | gothtec: /var/lib/mysql ; you can copy those files to another mysql server of the same version |
| 23:24.53 | Blisaed | i'm having trouble getting alsa to work with my m-audio fasttrack sound card which is an external USB sound card, can anyone help??????? |
| 23:25.04 | Hannibal | it's dnsmasq and/or windows that's giving up. |
| 23:25.05 | Gnea | Hannibal: but that's beside the point - if it's listening on the lan-side on port 53, then that should be the dns server used on the dhcp end of the client box |
| 23:25.15 | Guerin | gothtec: /var/lib/mysql/ |
| 23:25.20 | Guerin | eh |
| 23:25.21 | Hannibal | right. it is, looking at ipconfig /all |
| 23:25.21 | Guerin | yeah |
| 23:25.37 | Hannibal | it just doesn't bob-damn work :( |
| 23:25.42 | Robbie1490 | ok say if i cant find a cd-r can u use dvd-r's to put a image on? |
| 23:25.44 | Gnea | so then perhaps dnsmasq just has a problem |
| 23:25.54 | Hannibal | Gnea: and I 'just' have to live with that? |
| 23:25.55 | Gnea | i have never used it so i don't know how to diagnose it :/ |
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| 23:26.03 | Gnea | Hannibal: nah, maybe someone else knows |
| 23:26.18 | Hannibal | I'm wondering why it just failed, really. It's worked alright for a week or so. |
| 23:26.31 | Hannibal | I rebooted the machine this evening, and it worked fine for about 3 hours after that. |
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| 23:26.57 | Hannibal | Gnea: okay, well, thanks for trying I suppose. |
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| 23:27.15 | incorrect | stupid question, but what sort of issues might i run into runing 30 apache instances on 1 machine? |
| 23:27.23 | Gnea | hrm |
| 23:27.26 | Gnea | !dnsmasq |
| 23:27.31 | Iconsumed | where is the file for my keymap? I use dvorak(se) but it's not in the /usr/share/keymaps/i386/dvorak |
| 23:27.38 | Blisaed | i'm having trouble getting alsa to work with my m-audio fasttrack sound card which is an external USB sound card, can anyone help??????? |
| 23:27.44 | peterS | incorrect: keeping track of their port numbers and configurations? the other question is why you *want* to do this, though. one apache instance with 30 virtual hosts is a lot easier |
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| 23:27.52 | Gnea | !tell Blisaed about ask |
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| 23:28.00 | Blisaed | i know |
| 23:28.03 | Blisaed | didnt help |
| 23:28.06 | Gnea | no you don't. |
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| 23:28.28 | Hannibal | Gnea: I can give one last clue, I suppose. I run the generic dhcpd daemon. |
| 23:28.35 | Gnea | first of all, don't use a lot of question marks. makes you look dumb and helpless. second, be more thorough - provide more info |
| 23:28.42 | Hannibal | (ie, I don't use dnsmasq's builtin dhcp support) |
| 23:28.52 | Blisaed | hmmm |
| 23:29.06 | Gnea | Hannibal: that might be an issue - try disabling that then restarting dnsmasq |
| 23:29.08 | Blisaed | I just have a problem, i dont need a lecture |
| 23:29.21 | Hannibal | disabling the genereic dhcp server? |
| 23:29.34 | Hannibal | and dnsmasq has dhcp disabled by default - it needs to be enabled. |
| 23:29.36 | Gnea | get on with the problem or get lost, don't have time to deal with children |
| 23:29.41 | Hannibal | (which I didn't do, of course) |
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| 23:30.05 | Hannibal | Gnea: why would disabling the generic dhcp server help dnsmasq, if it's not trying to be a dhcp server? :) |
| 23:30.05 | amorphix | rpc.statd[2812]: Received erroneous SM_UNMON request from tecra for 192.168.1.1 |
| 23:30.16 | Gnea | Hannibal: so yeah, just turn off dhcpd, enable the dhcp within dnsmasq and restart it and see what happens |
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| 23:30.23 | Blisaed | gnea who the hell are you? hahaha |
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| 23:30.24 | Gnea | !rules |
| 23:30.25 | dpkg | rumour has it, rules is 1) Don't ask to ask. Just state your problem, 2) Don't repeat until 15 mins after, 3) Read and re-read the docs first, then admit it if you REALLY don't understand. You're wasting your time and ours if you haven't at least tried. 4) If your problem ain't solved, come back in 12 hrs or 24 hrs later. We're very international. 5) Be polite and patient. |
| 23:30.30 | amorphix | think we have a possible bug re-appearance in stable |
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| 23:30.44 | Hannibal | hrm. Well, can't hurt to try I suppose. |
| 23:30.52 | Gnea | Blisaed: a debian user who takes his job seriously. problem with that? |
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| 23:31.17 | silsor | How can I keep dpkg-buildpackage from stripping the binaries it builds? |
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| 23:31.35 | peterS | silverwolf: set the environment variable DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip |
| 23:31.42 | silsor | thanks |
| 23:31.58 | peterS | silverwolf: note, this only works with some debian packages. some don't recognise that flag |
| 23:32.02 | peterS | silsor: ^^^ |
| 23:32.08 | michal_ | hi. i have multiple systems installed with shorewall/dnsmasq/resolvconf that arre exhititingg the same problem.. they are using the same configs from systems configured earlier which are NOT having said problems. the problem iis that all debian sites (and possibly others) resolve to 1.0.0.0 and I can't track down what exactly is causingg it :/ |
| 23:32.25 | silsor | what about the rest? |
| 23:32.35 | Blisaed | Gnea: I never had a problem with you until you started giving me internet attitude which i think is quite stupid in the first place, hasnt your mother ever told "if you can say something nice, dont say anything at all" argueing is pointless, i'll ask someone else |
| 23:32.47 | Blisaed | cant* |
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| 23:33.05 | Gnea | Blisaed: it's called "follow channel rules or get owned by it" |
| 23:33.09 | thingfish | it's always a show in here. |
| 23:33.16 | Ronin | thingfish: very true |
| 23:33.18 | Gnea | Blisaed: also "leave baggage at the door" |
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| 23:33.26 | thingfish | it's better than TV, most of the time. |
| 23:33.42 | Blisaed | Gnea: Just get of your power trip and go help someone else, simple as that |
| 23:33.45 | Blisaed | off* |
| 23:33.50 | Gnea | Blisaed: and i'm quite aware of the "if you *CAN'T* say something nice, don't say anything at all" bit. |
| 23:33.56 | stew | Blisaed: Gnea please just put eachother on /ignore and move on |
| 23:34.08 | Blisaed | haha |
| 23:34.10 | Gnea | Blisaed: what power trip? i'm done with your childish non-move on attitude. |
| 23:34.14 | thingfish | it's just pent-up sexuality... |
| 23:34.20 | thingfish | they really want each other... |
| 23:34.40 | Blisaed | thingfish: you're so right, i would love to take Gnea home and sodimize him |
| 23:34.43 | Blisaed | or her |
| 23:34.43 | Gnea | why would i want something that's disease-ridden? bleh |
| 23:34.47 | Gnea | now... |
| 23:34.59 | Blisaed | lol |
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| 23:35.02 | Blisaed | okay buddy |
| 23:35.07 | peterS | I think Blisaed confused Gnea with gnaa |
| 23:35.14 | silsor | Okay, I ran DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nostrip fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us -nc but it went ahead and stripped them anyway |
| 23:35.18 | Guerin | peterS: easily done |
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| 23:35.52 | peterS | silsor: as I said, with some packages nostrip isn't recognised. that's one small measure of package quality and up-to-date-ness |
| 23:36.02 | Blisaed | anyways, i will ask my question again.. |
| 23:36.08 | peterS | silsor: it'll work with my packages (: |
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| 23:36.14 | silsor | is there anything I can do to intervene with the build process in this case? |
| 23:36.29 | peterS | silsor: edit the file debian/rules, is the easiest thing |
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| 23:37.08 | Blisaed | i'm having trouble getting alsa to work with my m-audio fasttrack sound card which is an external USB sound card, ALSA doesnt seem to recognize it what soever, i cant seem to find any M-Audio drivers, is there another way to get sound working with a fake driver or something else??????? |
| 23:37.30 | MrBallZ | get a pci card :D |
| 23:37.35 | Blisaed | haha |
| 23:37.44 | silsor | that's what I did to add --enable-debug to DEB_CONFIGURE_USER_FLAGS in the first place, but I can't find anything related to stripping them post-build |
| 23:37.45 | amorphix | simplifcation |
| 23:37.48 | peterS | Blisaed: tried the generic 'snd-usb-audio' module? |
| 23:38.02 | amorphix | im gonna reinstall. |
| 23:38.05 | Blisaed | peterS: no, how would i go about doing so? |
| 23:38.18 | peterS | Blisaed: I don't know what percentage of USB sound chips support by the generic usb audio spec, but I think they're all theoretically supposed to |
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| 23:38.20 | silsor | the whole debian/rules is only 60-odd lines |
| 23:38.24 | peterS | Blisaed: just try: 'modprobe snd-usb-audio' |
| 23:38.29 | Guerin | !hcl |
| 23:38.30 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel |
| 23:38.34 | Guerin | Blisaed: ^ |
| 23:38.39 | arthurb | Hi, are xorg 6.9/7 RC2 packages avaible somehwere ? |
| 23:38.39 | amorphix | too much error |
| 23:38.57 | peterS | arthurb: I think gravity uploaded some to experimental awhile back |
| 23:39.00 | Gnea | !xorg |
| 23:39.00 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xorg is X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.8.2. ask me about <get xorg> |
| 23:39.05 | gravity | peterS: Hrm? |
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| 23:39.14 | gravity | amorphix: For i386 they're in experimental |
| 23:39.16 | Gnea | !get xorg |
| 23:39.16 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 23:39.20 | gravity | arthurb: ^ |
| 23:39.42 | Blisaed | peterS: i had Xandros installed which is a simplied Debian and sound worked right away, seems much more complicated in Debian, anyways thanks for your help |
| 23:39.45 | silsor | peterS: also, one of the lines in debian/rules is "# Hmm - fumbling around to attempt making this damned package compile properly..." |
| 23:39.49 | silsor | surely this is a mark of quality |
| 23:39.53 | arthurb | gravity: yah but 6.9 RC2 ? |
| 23:39.55 | gravity | arthurb: I'm going to try and build ppc packages for it tonight, but I may not have the disk space |
| 23:39.58 | gravity | arthurb: Yes |
| 23:40.03 | gravity | arthurb: 6.9 RC2 |
| 23:40.04 | arthurb | cool |
| 23:40.04 | peterS | Blisaed: well, try it. if 'modprobe snd-usb-audio' works, you'll want to add it to a startup file |
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| 23:40.12 | peterS | silsor: yes! |
| 23:40.14 | gravity | 6.8.99.901 |
| 23:40.20 | arthurb | debian unstable that is ? |
| 23:40.24 | gravity | No. experimental. |
| 23:40.28 | silsor | also "# Don't know why, but upstream added this and it seems to be needed" |
| 23:40.34 | gravity | It's not released by upstream so it's not going in to unstable yet |
| 23:40.39 | arthurb | ok |
| 23:40.40 | peterS | silsor: really gives you confidence in the packaging job, yeah |
| 23:40.52 | silsor | the package is basilisk2 btw |
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| 23:41.13 | gravity | At the beginning of next month, if the release team gives the Ok, it'll hit unstable |
| 23:41.20 | dfgd | hello all, I'm new to debian and have hit a bit of a wall trying to get X window going |
| 23:41.23 | Blisaed | peterS: I got an error saying Error running install command for snd_usb_audio |
| 23:41.35 | dfgd | can anyone help me |
| 23:41.41 | peterS | silsor: '/whois sonaj' -> tell him what you think of his package (: |
| 23:41.42 | Pit3r | some here test nexenta ? ( debian + kernel sunOS ) |
| 23:41.51 | peterS | silsor: actually don't (: |
| 23:41.52 | gravity | dfgd: Could you put your X config and log file up in a pastebin? |
| 23:42.00 | thingfish | dfgd: what vidcard do you have, and what have you done to try and get it working? |
| 23:42.03 | arthurb | what is the repositery for that ? |
| 23:42.13 | arthurb | should I just replace the word unstable with experimental ? |
| 23:42.14 | gravity | !tell arthurb about experimental |
| 23:42.27 | gravity | wtf |
| 23:42.33 | gravity | That factoid used to tell you how to use experimental |
| 23:42.42 | arthurb | I know that |
| 23:42.47 | Gnea | gravity: dpkg has been on and off |
| 23:42.49 | thingfish | I think someone has recently redone a lot of the factoids. |
| 23:42.50 | dfgd | I'm not sure at all |
| 23:42.52 | arthurb | I don't know the repositery to add to source.list |
| 23:42.53 | Gnea | gravity: just lagged |
| 23:42.59 | peterS | Blisaed: that's a strange error. I don't know what would cause it |
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| 23:43.08 | gravity | arthurb: I think it's in wiki.debian.org somewhere... |
| 23:43.08 | thingfish | either that, or I've had massive brain cell shift. |
| 23:43.15 | gravity | arthurb: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ ../project/experimental main |
| 23:43.17 | gravity | That should do it |
| 23:43.20 | peterS | Blisaed: also, I don't have a USB sound chip, so I've never done this. I just had the distinct impression that this module is supposed to work for most USB sound chips |
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| 23:43.29 | gravity | arthurb: Be careful. There's some issues with RC2. THere's a reason it's not 6.9 final. |
| 23:43.30 | dfgd | I have read a tutorial and they say to type startx |
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| 23:43.44 | arthurb | I'm scared |
| 23:43.56 | dfgd | I'm not even sure I have package installed correctly |
| 23:43.58 | Blisaed | peterS: ya, its cool. I think i have a PCI card laying around here somewhere...i'll put that in :) thanks! |
| 23:44.04 | peterS | Blisaed: good luck |
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| 23:44.11 | Blisaed | peterS: thanks man |
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| 23:45.05 | Robbie1490 | ok peter now that i finshed downloading that one and burnt it as a image to a cd restart the computer with cd in? |
| 23:45.06 | silsor | ah HAH! from debian/changelog: "* Add debug support as suggested in Debian-policy 11.1, and hack Makefile.in to take control of when to strip symbols." |
| 23:45.09 | RandomTask | hi can some one tell me if i buy a random wireless ethernet card for my debian box ... will i have any troubles installing? |
| 23:45.19 | RandomTask | (ps sorry if off topic) |
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| 23:45.30 | Lloyd | hi |
| 23:45.49 | bbrazil | RandomTask: yes - finding the right card is very difficult, aiui |
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| 23:46.10 | RandomTask | any recommendations? |
| 23:46.25 | Guerin | RandomTask: research which cards work before buying |
| 23:46.27 | Guerin | !hcl |
| 23:46.28 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hcl is at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Hardware-HOWTO/, or see http://www.linuxcompatible.org/compatlist3.html to see what's supported by the linux kernel |
| 23:46.33 | beardy | RandomTask: A better way is to check which one you want/have the money for, and then check if it's supported, easy to get running and so on, if not, find a better one. Ask #hardware? |
| 23:46.34 | Guerin | start there ^ |
| 23:46.50 | RandomTask | thanks everyone |
| 23:46.59 | RandomTask | where can i look for support info ? |
| 23:47.06 | Guerin | RandomTask: see above |
| 23:47.21 | RandomTask | i see |
| 23:47.23 | RandomTask | cool |
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| 23:48.07 | RandomTask | thanks again this is great help |
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| 23:48.26 | Lloyd | could someone help me. im new to linux, cant connect to internet. |
| 23:49.19 | Lloyd | someone still awake? |
| 23:49.27 | Guerin | Lloyd: how do you normally connect? |
| 23:49.29 | shad0wcat | nope |
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| 23:49.44 | Lloyd | now im in knoppix |
| 23:49.50 | Lloyd | but ive a debian |
| 23:49.53 | Guerin | Lloyd: so it works in knoppix |
| 23:50.05 | Lloyd | in debian i cant get a connection |
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| 23:50.34 | Lloyd | my win has crashed so i must rely to debian |
| 23:50.35 | Lloyd | ;9 |
| 23:50.48 | hyperactivecrond | do any of you have any idea how to make a debian-based distro? |
| 23:50.54 | Guerin | Lloyd: connect using ethernet, dsl, cable, or what? |
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| 23:51.09 | Lloyd | im connectet in a lan to a router |
| 23:51.10 | arthurb | hum it's weird |
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| 23:51.19 | Lloyd | the router connects to dsl |
| 23:51.21 | simonvallore | ip like that doesnt |
| 23:51.24 | arthurb | I unchecked all the other sources and only left the debian experimental |
| 23:51.28 | Lloyd | i have a realtek ethernet card |
| 23:51.30 | arthurb | updated the cache |
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| 23:51.43 | arthurb | but I still only see the old packages... also it complains about gpg key |
| 23:52.47 | simonvallore | Hello i need help when i 127.0.0.1 i can see the webpage but when i go via my ip i cant |
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| 23:53.11 | silsor | 127.0.0.1 is not a verb |
| 23:53.22 | silsor | unless I am badly out of date on my English |
| 23:53.44 | hyperactivecrond | simonvallore: what port? what are you trying to look at? |
| 23:53.55 | simonvallore | 80 my http server |
| 23:53.59 | MrBallZ | i 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:54.04 | MrBallZ | you 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:54.07 | simonvallore | it was working then i restarted |
| 23:54.12 | Robbie1490 | wth that mean |
| 23:54.13 | MrBallZ | he / she 127.0.0.1 |
| 23:54.16 | Robbie1490 | please mount the cd in the drive |
| 23:54.19 | Robbie1490 | and it is in the drive |
| 23:54.32 | Lloyd | much traffic here |
| 23:54.35 | arthurb | it's a binding problem of your server |
| 23:54.42 | hyperactivecrond | simonvallore: firewall probs? |
| 23:54.43 | Lloyd | guerin still here? |
| 23:54.46 | simonvallore | nope |
| 23:54.55 | simonvallore | firestarter is set to allow port 80 |
| 23:55.02 | Guerin | Lloyd: paste the contents of /etc/network/interfaces and the output of ifconfig; to a paster |
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| 23:55.02 | arthurb | binding |
| 23:55.05 | Guerin | !paster Lloyd |
| 23:55.06 | dpkg | Lloyd: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 23:55.18 | karrot-x | is there a way to tell the OS a web server is on? |
| 23:55.27 | gravity | karrot-x: queso or nmap |
| 23:55.28 | simonvallore | arthurb, what do you mean |
| 23:55.29 | welson | is there a usb wireless nic that works with the latest kernel? im looking at buying a wireless nic, any suggestiongs (for pc, possibly pci model)? |
| 23:55.34 | Lloyd | ok |
| 23:55.36 | Lloyd | mom |
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| 23:55.51 | Guerin | Lloyd: i don't think your mother is in the channel |
| 23:55.56 | hyperactivecrond | :P |
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| 23:56.47 | skrewler | does it normally take 15 minutes doing a debian install at "Starting PC Card Services"? |
| 23:56.53 | gravity | No |
| 23:57.05 | Lloyd | ill be back soon, i have to switch to debian |
| 23:57.11 | Robbie1490 | Anyone that can help me please pm me! |
| 23:57.19 | Guerin | lloyd |
| 23:57.22 | Guerin | damnit |
| 23:57.27 | peterS | arthurb: experimental is a bit of a special case - you don't get packages from there automatically by just using 'apt-get upgrade' or whatever. you have to specify experimental explicitly |
| 23:57.31 | hyperactivecrond | do any of you have any idea how to make a debian-based distro? or a source that says howto? |
| 23:57.33 | skrewler | I'm trying to install on this laptop, is there antyhing I should do special before installing |
| 23:57.36 | peterS | arthurb: so like, apt-get install xserver-xorg/experimental |
| 23:57.38 | Kluster_v2 | skrewler, on my toshiba laptop it used to do that |
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| 23:57.49 | skrewler | Kluster_v2: should I just wait it out? |
| 23:57.59 | Kluster_v2 | skrewler, nope, is it a toshiba ? with pcmcia lan ? |
| 23:58.12 | skrewler | Kluster_v2: it's a dell with pcmcia lan |
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| 23:59.34 | amorphix | toshiba laptops are the best |
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| 23:59.39 | Kluster_v2 | skrewler, the problem with my laptop was the IRQ used.. there was a file in /etc/pcmcia/config.opts and I had to add ports 3,4,5,6,7,9,11,12,14 and 15 in the exclude list.. it was under FC4 |
| 23:59.43 | Guerin | amorphix: they were |
| 23:59.53 | Guerin | amorphix: apparently the ew ones are shit |
| 23:59.55 | Kluster_v2 | as far as I know there is no such file in debian.. |
| 23:59.58 | amorphix | i have a tecra and its really solid |
