| 00:00.06 | inf | http://lastmeasureunified.zoy.org |
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| 00:00.33 | bucky | !ops inf spammer |
| 00:00.34 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: inf spammer |
| 00:00.35 | *** part/#debian mstruwe (n=mstruwe@p54BC72A3.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 00:00.35 | amphi | inf: wtf? |
| 00:00.41 | *** part/#debian paulswm (i=unknown@103.99.207.68.cfl.res.rr.com) |
| 00:00.42 | inf | lolwut |
| 00:00.43 | deadcat | told you guys he spamming |
| 00:00.46 | inf | jewslol |
| 00:01.04 | amphi | !pal inf |
| 00:01.06 | neil_dugan | Hi I am trying to get cdrecord working, I am using kernel 2.6.8, cdrecord 2.01.01a01 with a samsung DVD/CDRW combo drive. I have followed the instructions in the "README.ATAPI.setup" file but it still wont work. |
| 00:01.35 | inf | omgjews |
| 00:01.43 | jongkyu | I can not see avi file with mplayer by user account. But I can see |
| 00:01.44 | jongkyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.57 | jongkyu | "(!) |
| 00:01.57 | jongkyu | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.57 | jongkyu | <jongkyu> --> Permission denied |
| 00:01.57 | jongkyu | <jongkyu> " |
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| 00:02.12 | dvs | it must be Sunday somewhere. |
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| 00:02.19 | amphi | heh |
| 00:02.19 | inf | lolooool |
| 00:02.20 | deadcat | i was gonna tell him not to paste. but i just want to see his ass kicked |
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| 00:02.25 | jongkyu | lol |
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| 00:02.34 | PhoenixMan | In an sh script, how do I see the UID or username of the currently logged in user? |
| 00:02.36 | neil_dugan | dva: it is here in Australia. |
| 00:02.46 | dvs | !sing sunday |
| 00:02.46 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 00:02.53 | deadcat | PhoenixMan: w |
| 00:03.39 | eobanb | is there any way to install windows after a debian install without wiping grub from the mbr? |
| 00:03.50 | deadcat | no |
| 00:03.50 | cddesjar | eobanb: nope |
| 00:04.00 | dvs | nada |
| 00:04.02 | eobanb | gah |
| 00:04.50 | andyzweb | what is the #flood channel for |
| 00:04.56 | inf | http://snipurl.com/kfzi |
| 00:04.58 | dvs | !flood |
| 00:04.58 | dpkg | It's considered impolite to paste many lines of text on IRC. Please don't do it. Pasting one line is fine. Pasting two lines you can usually get away with. Pasting three lines will get you insulted. Pasting four or more lines will get you kicked. If you want to paste, use #flood or http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 00:05.04 | deadcat | adault chat |
| 00:05.10 | dvs | ha! |
| 00:05.28 | andyzweb | so you can spam it? |
| 00:05.31 | deadcat | !ops inf is spamming. |
| 00:05.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: inf is spamming. |
| 00:05.38 | SimonRaven | sorry deadcat you were right. |
| 00:05.43 | bucky | inf: i got your gay little nazi ass banned from #ubuntu |
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| 00:05.56 | neil_dugan | dvs: try using "http://rafb.net/paste/" and then posting the URL returned. |
| 00:05.58 | LjL | bucky: you're being worse than him |
| 00:05.59 | inf | http://snipurl.com/kfzi |
| 00:06.00 | deadcat | SimonRaven: usually if they have a random nick. they spam |
| 00:06.00 | inf | loljews |
| 00:06.06 | LjL | bucky: stop |
| 00:06.10 | dvs | neil_dugan: Hey, I'm not asking |
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| 00:06.22 | SimonRaven | oh a nazi too. goody, i get to see his ass whooped |
| 00:06.36 | neil_dugan | dvs: ok. |
| 00:06.42 | tritium | actually, I banned him in #ubuntu, bucky |
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| 00:06.46 | deadcat | and racist too |
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| 00:07.09 | inf | L1oL!o!L1o!L1oL!1oL! |
| 00:07.09 | bucky | LjL: what's wrong mussolini ... don't like me bringing up your family names? |
| 00:07.11 | inf | http://snipurl.com/kfzi |
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| 00:08.03 | deadcat | bucky: (= |
| 00:08.07 | bucky | !tell inf about d-i |
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| 00:08.26 | inf | lol what |
| 00:08.27 | inf | jew |
| 00:08.34 | bucky | !tell inf about enter |
| 00:08.39 | andyzweb | what commands do dpkg respond |
| 00:08.47 | grunx | !prot |
| 00:08.52 | wang | scenario: I have a 3 in 1 hp psc 1310 attached to a windows box, installed with drivers from hp, shared. I have samba installed on this debian box connected to a router, which is also connected to the windows box. I need to be able to print to this printer on the windows box. Cups is also installed |
| 00:08.55 | wang | I also have drivers from hp for the printer installed on the debain box, I can not get it installed from the web admin page from cups, and ideas? |
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| 00:09.37 | SimonRaven | inf: fascist. you got your ass whooped, and we'll do it again. |
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| 00:09.53 | inf | lolwut |
| 00:09.57 | bucky | !tell inf about ask |
| 00:09.59 | inf | jewslol |
| 00:10.03 | bucky | !tell inf about topic |
| 00:10.03 | inf | bucky wut |
| 00:10.06 | dvs | as usual, no ops around when you need them |
| 00:10.11 | amphi | !tell inf about lol |
| 00:10.13 | inf | not interesting |
| 00:10.56 | amphi | *shrug* /ignore -replies inf |
| 00:11.02 | rafx | please confirm/reject this assumption: if we download *.dsc, *.orig.tar.gz, *.diff.tar.gz for a package, then use dpkg-source, then use dpkg-buildpackage without changes--would we end up with a .deb package identical to the official one? |
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| 00:12.34 | wang | who left the idiot gate ajar?! |
| 00:12.49 | dvs | woof woof-woof-woof |
| 00:12.55 | SimonRaven | rafx: fakeroot apt-get -b source <source package name> would do the exact same. you'll need 'apt-get install fakeroot build-essential; apt-get build-dep <source package name>' first |
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| 00:13.02 | SimonRaven | wang: an idiot |
| 00:13.33 | satHan | hey everybody, whats the safest way to use a small number of packages from experimental while keeping the rest of the system at sid? |
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| 00:14.15 | neil_dugan | Hi I am trying to get cdrecord working, I am using kernel 2.6.8, cdrecord 2.01.01a01 with a samsung DVD/CDRW combo drive. I have followed the instructions in the "README.ATAPI.setup" file but it still wont work. |
| 00:14.20 | SimonRaven | it'll do that anyway. /msg dpkg experimental |
| 00:14.30 | cddesjar | neil_dugan: what's the problem? |
| 00:14.33 | rafx | SimonRaven: thanks |
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| 00:15.28 | SimonRaven | ravenbird: test2 |
| 00:15.29 | ravenbird | Yes I'm online |
| 00:15.42 | satHan | SimonRaven: ok, so upgrade won't default to taking packages out of the experimental repository? |
| 00:15.54 | cddesjar | SimonRaven: can ravenbird take dpkg? |
| 00:16.07 | dvs | botwars?!? |
| 00:16.16 | neil_dugan | cddesjar: see http://channels.debian.net/paste/1212 |
| 00:16.33 | wang | ravenbird: "nevermore" |
| 00:16.33 | ravenbird | wang: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 00:16.38 | wang | poser. |
| 00:16.43 | SimonRaven | satHan: yes. the priority is set below the "i won't even think of getting packages from here!" limit |
| 00:16.53 | wang | heh |
| 00:16.54 | wang | fucking inf |
| 00:16.55 | Seveas | lol |
| 00:17.01 | dvs | neil_dugan: The device makes no sense. |
| 00:17.05 | SimonRaven | hahaha |
| 00:17.06 | SimonRaven | without an op even |
| 00:17.14 | satHan | SimonRaven: ok thanks. in that case, how can I tell it to get specific packages from experimental when I have them both in sources.list/ |
| 00:17.18 | SimonRaven | w00t for stupidity |
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| 00:17.34 | wang | rob's afk too |
| 00:17.36 | wang | slacker |
| 00:17.42 | SimonRaven | too bad it didn't last ;) |
| 00:18.06 | SimonRaven | satHan: read what dpkg has to say about experimental |
| 00:18.09 | wang | inf: isn't there an Insane Clown Possee concert you should be attending tonight? |
| 00:18.29 | inf | http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/k |
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| 00:18.33 | bucky | inf: having siegfried and roy over for christmas? |
| 00:18.38 | dip | anyone have recommendations on invoice software? |
| 00:18.38 | inf | dip: http://snipurl.com/kfzi http://snipurl.com/kfzi |
| 00:18.43 | bucky | inf: having siegfried and roy over for christmas? |
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| 00:18.52 | satHan | SimonRaven: just that I shouldn't be asking for support. the whole, breaks you get both pieces spiel |
| 00:18.57 | Shadowcat | dip: what the hell |
| 00:19.00 | bucky | dip did you ask that a few days ago? |
| 00:19.08 | amphi | neil_dugan: try cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus to find the device |
| 00:19.12 | Shadowcat | bucky: he's asking the same question on two different networks |
| 00:19.15 | neil_dugan | cddesjar: in what way? I setup /etc/default/cdrecord with the line "samsung= 1,1,0 -1 -1 burnfree" |
| 00:19.17 | Shadowcat | god knows how many channels |
| 00:19.21 | neil_dugan | cddesjar: ok |
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| 00:19.24 | Shadowcat | dip: make up your mind |
| 00:19.37 | Shadowcat | and asking in one windows channel |
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| 00:19.40 | Shadowcat | and a linux channel |
| 00:19.45 | dvs | neil_dugan: then the device is 1,1,0 |
| 00:20.16 | bucky | dip apt-cache show sql-ledger |
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| 00:21.00 | neil_dugan | cddesjar: I did that got a big printout which doesn't seem to help do you want to see it all. |
| 00:21.11 | dvs | yay! |
| 00:21.11 | xah | is it possible to design a web app involving mysql completely thru plesk? |
| 00:21.16 | thingfish | boy really |
| 00:21.25 | Seveas | too bad he's on dialup |
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| 00:21.43 | kpfleming[mobile | /ns identify stupefy |
| 00:21.51 | Shadowcat | hahahaha |
| 00:21.54 | kpfleming[mobile | lol |
| 00:21.55 | Shadowcat | wrong terminal |
| 00:21.59 | kpfleming[mobile | uhh... yeah |
| 00:22.00 | dvs | oh! a password! :-> |
| 00:22.03 | kpfleming[mobile | wrong password, too |
| 00:22.04 | Shadowcat | definately WRONG terminal |
| 00:22.09 | Shadowcat | lies |
| 00:22.16 | deadcat | HAHAHA |
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| 00:22.28 | deadcat | he has ssh open? |
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| 00:23.24 | neil_dugan | dvs: if I use "cdrecord dev=1,1,0 -dummy -dao /mnt/storage/share/neil/Downloads/kubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso" it doesn't work. |
| 00:23.24 | bucky | xah: what is plesk? |
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| 00:23.51 | crash3m_ | plesk is a web server control panel |
| 00:23.54 | xah | it's a interface used by web hosting providers |
| 00:24.03 | xah | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plesk |
| 00:24.08 | valdyn | neil_dugan: don't you dare tell us the error |
| 00:24.09 | amphi | neil_dugan: is it a scsi device? |
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| 00:24.25 | dvs | neil_dugan: the -dummy option won't do a write. |
| 00:24.40 | bucky | xah: i like mysitemake.. check out the screenshots http://www.itlab.musc.edu/mySiteMaker/ |
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| 00:24.48 | amphi | neil_dugan: I suspect you may mean dev=ATA:1,1,0 |
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| 00:24.59 | neil_dugan | valdyn: see "http://channels.debian.net/paste/1212" |
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| 00:25.17 | neil_dugan | amphi: no atapi |
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| 00:25.26 | xah | bucky: i got a project of creating a web app, which will need a database. But i don't have exp with plesk. Is it possible to develop a web app thru plesk at all?? |
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| 00:25.28 | neil_dugan | dva: I know I want to test first. |
| 00:25.31 | bucky | xah: i may not have understood the question |
| 00:25.41 | bucky | i don't know |
| 00:25.58 | valdyn | neil_dugan: you dont have a scsi cdrom/dvd drive |
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| 00:26.35 | valdyn | neil_dugan: -dev=/dev/hdc |
| 00:26.37 | neil_dugan | valdyn: no, and no scsi interface |
| 00:26.44 | dvs | valdyn: no dash |
| 00:26.44 | nissemus | Hello, Anybody running debian 3.1 on vmware? |
| 00:26.57 | valdyn | dvs: not required , true |
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| 00:27.26 | dvs | neil_dugan: if the drive is the secondary master /dev/hdc is right |
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| 00:27.41 | wang | SO who wants to help tackle a network printer problem |
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| 00:28.23 | neil_dugan | amphi: using "dev=ATA:1,1,0" seems to be working it is doing a test at the moment |
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| 00:28.33 | neil_dugan | dvs: /dev/hdd |
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| 00:28.55 | dvs | neil_dugan: Yeah, that should work with a 2.6 kernel |
| 00:28.58 | dvs | too |
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| 00:29.57 | neil_dugan | amphi: dvs: could I use an alias to make it easier to enter the command? |
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| 00:30.19 | dvs | neil_dugan: Sure, why not? |
| 00:30.29 | valdyn | neil_dugan: you could just edit /etc/default/cdrecord too |
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| 00:31.53 | neil_dugan | valdyn: I have "samsung= 1,1,0 -1 -1 burnfree" in /etc/devault/cdrecord I tried putting in an "ata:" but cdrecord didn't seem to like it. |
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| 00:32.21 | amphi | neil_dugan: put the stuff in /etc/default/cdrecord |
| 00:33.27 | amphi | neil_dugan: I just have CDR_DEVICE=ATA:1,0,0 |
| 00:33.35 | amphi | neil_dugan: why do you need 'samsung'? |
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| 00:34.31 | bucky | LjL <-- ubuntu user |
| 00:34.32 | dvs | neil_dugan: yeah, that line should be "CDR_DEVICE=samsung" |
| 00:34.35 | SerajewelKS | is there any software available for linux that will control a hardware equalizer? |
| 00:34.45 | dvs | neil_dugan: and don't specify anything on the command line |
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| 00:35.08 | dvs | neil_dugan: Any "dev" option that is |
| 00:35.14 | neil_dugan | dvs: thanks I will try that |
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| 00:36.02 | cddesjar | bucky: why do you keep telling us that so and so is a ubuntu user |
| 00:36.19 | bucky | cddesjar: /whois LjL |
| 00:36.23 | neil_dugan | amphi: just I setup a definition for the samsung drive. thanks for you help I will experiment here and see what works best. |
| 00:36.25 | LjL | cddesjar: because i sent him a private notice that he didn't like |
| 00:36.30 | wang | because he's a fucking moron |
| 00:36.51 | bucky | wang <-- noobuntu |
| 00:36.57 | thingfish | who's fucking a moron? |
| 00:37.06 | wang | omg ohnos! go make some macaroni art kid, you bother me |
| 00:37.15 | wang | thingfish : bucky, he's just trolling |
| 00:37.17 | ke6isf | thingfish: Somebody who doesn't have any scruples? |
| 00:37.17 | bucky | wang: i can't get my network printer working... whaa! for two weeks |
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| 00:37.18 | thingfish | oh ick, wang is talking. |
| 00:37.31 | wang | lol |
| 00:38.25 | wang | eww |
| 00:38.29 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:38.42 | amphi | neil_dugan: ok - if you have /etc/default/cdrecord set up right, all you need to do is cdrecord [-dummy] [-v] foo.iso |
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| 00:39.18 | neil_dugan | amphi: I will try that in a few moments. |
| 00:39.24 | thingfish | oh, I love you guys too. |
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| 00:39.37 | dvs | I'm hungry. ;-) |
| 00:39.42 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:39.54 | thingfish | I will have to cook something soon here myself. |
| 00:39.57 | ke6isf | thingfish: There. Wait a few months, and you'll have a neverending supply of this stuff. |
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| 00:40.06 | thingfish | I wish. |
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| 00:40.30 | thingfish | I mean, I can see how it should be illegal to sell it. But grow it? |
| 00:40.39 | thingfish | me too! |
| 00:40.44 | bucky | wang is slang for penis |
| 00:40.48 | dvs | Ah! ban cddesjar! |
| 00:40.55 | Guerin | wang is korean for King |
| 00:41.00 | cddesjar | oh shit...this is #gentoo |
| 00:41.01 | thingfish | sarge, plus nvidia plus marillat's dvdcss. |
| 00:41.05 | dvs | bucky: or a computer manufacturer |
| 00:41.05 | cddesjar | i am going so FAST |
| 00:41.06 | bucky | same thing |
| 00:41.15 | cddesjar | vroom vroom vroom |
| 00:41.21 | thingfish | it is, bucky, and it's about time someone besides me noticed it. |
| 00:41.28 | ke6isf | !always sunday |
| 00:41.28 | dpkg | Just as it's always September, somewhere, out on the internet, it's always Sunday here in #debian. |
| 00:41.35 | valdyn | neil_dugan: that samsung= stuff isnt required on modern drives |
| 00:41.53 | SimonRaven | !nevermore |
| 00:41.54 | dpkg | well, nevermore is godly also, but too short |
| 00:41.56 | thingfish | well, it's not sunday, it's just saturday night and we're all either drinking or smoking or both. |
| 00:42.04 | dvs | valdyn: No, the "samsung=" stuff only makes sense in the /default/cdrecord file. |
| 00:42.08 | SimonRaven | or neither |
| 00:42.15 | ke6isf | thingfish: Dude, like the factoid sez, it's *always* Sunday. |
| 00:42.18 | thingfish | or neither, yes. |
| 00:42.38 | neil_dugan | amphi: I do need to put in a 'dev' option |
| 00:42.43 | valdyn | dvs: ops, yea, i mixed this up |
| 00:42.46 | dvs | neil_dugan: nope |
| 00:42.57 | SimonRaven | i like the stuff, but it fucks me up too much when i'm sober |
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| 00:43.03 | thingfish | ke6isf: in this channel, true enough. |
| 00:43.15 | wang | SimonRaven : yaaay |
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| 00:43.29 | jbroome | always Sunday, or always September/ |
| 00:43.29 | thingfish | sobriety is good, but then so is non-sobriety (in moderation). |
| 00:43.39 | neil_dugan | dvs: If I don't it doesn't work so maybe I need to configure differently. |
| 00:43.40 | dvs | thingfish: liar! ;-) |
| 00:43.48 | Guerin | bong hits in T minus three months! |
| 00:43.50 | thingfish | hehe |
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| 00:43.54 | ke6isf | !confuse wang |
| 00:43.55 | dpkg | Yes, those are my badger yesterday, wang? breeches of the people's republic of mongolia with extra herring |
| 00:44.07 | dvs | neil_dugan: Yeah, then something ain't right in the cdrecord file. |
| 00:44.11 | amphi | neil_dugan: get the device with cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 00:44.21 | wang | wow that is confusing |
| 00:44.21 | thingfish | impossible to confuse me. I am lucidity incarnate. |
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| 00:44.44 | ke6isf | !confuse thingfish |
| 00:44.44 | dpkg | No, those are our weasel tomorrow, thingfish? lederhosen of the dictatorship of belarus with extra cream |
| 00:44.45 | neil_dugan | amphi: I know the device is ATA:1,1,0 |
| 00:44.45 | wang | 18 hours of the day i'm confused like a baby in a topless bar |
| 00:44.47 | thingfish | the more I drink, the more lucid I become. |
| 00:45.01 | bucky | !smite wang with samba |
| 00:45.15 | neil_dugan | dvs: I will take another look at the config file. |
| 00:45.30 | ke6isf | !smitesmite bucky |
| 00:45.38 | SimonRaven | thingfish: what about those toasters that lay eggs in the bathroom, while they scrape pudding off the ceiling, because they like tomatoe paste? |
| 00:45.48 | Haukkari | !gentoosmite myself |
| 00:45.54 | Haukkari | ... |
| 00:45.55 | Haukkari | well |
| 00:46.02 | thingfish | oh now SimonRaven, that's almost conceptual art, better write that one down. |
| 00:46.13 | SimonRaven | haha |
| 00:46.16 | thingfish | love it love it love it |
| 00:46.34 | ke6isf | I'm having tons o' fun, and I'm completely sober. Except for the caffeine. |
| 00:46.37 | thingfish | you've read Yoko Ono, I can see. :) |
| 00:46.41 | zcot | what's the difference between v kernel-sources-* and kernel-tree-* ? |
| 00:46.53 | SimonRaven | wait til you get a newbie asking you a non-sensical question, then you'll get confused |
| 00:47.23 | SimonRaven | thingfish: i don't read much fiction |
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| 00:47.39 | neil_dugan | dvs: I have that worked out, I got a -dummy write going without using the 'dev' option |
| 00:47.39 | thingfish | SimonRaven: if you hang out on IRC, you do. |
| 00:47.49 | SimonRaven | last few years i haven't read much of anything except technical manuals :/ |
| 00:47.50 | dvs | !beer neil_dugan |
| 00:47.55 | SimonRaven | hehe |
| 00:48.00 | thingfish | I hear you. |
| 00:48.09 | thingfish | no time for frivolous reading. |
| 00:48.12 | dvs | SimonRaven: Any plot twists? |
| 00:48.14 | thingfish | common affliction. |
| 00:48.35 | SimonRaven | dvs: only when some rfc got superceded by 4 others |
| 00:48.46 | dvs | oh! conflict! |
| 00:48.59 | SimonRaven | drama! |
| 00:49.08 | dvs | Was Jack Ryan in it? |
| 00:49.41 | SimonRaven | nope |
| 00:49.49 | thingfish | Jack Ryan...wasn't he some discredited US politician, formerly married to Jerri Ryan? |
| 00:49.55 | neil_dugan | dvs: I was wondering should I use -dao or -tao for writing a iso file to the CD |
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| 00:50.11 | thingfish | you know, 7 of 9? |
| 00:50.15 | dvs | neil_dugan: I usually don't specify it |
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| 00:50.48 | dvs | thingfish: Jack Ryan is fictional. Patriot Games, the Hunt for Red October |
| 00:50.48 | neil_dugan | dvs: Ok i won't I think it defaults to tao though |
| 00:50.54 | thingfish | oh |
| 00:51.13 | dondelelcaro | well, one of them is; there was a politician by that name. |
| 00:51.18 | SimonRaven | see, you *did* get confused |
| 00:51.23 | thingfish | now see, I thought so. |
| 00:51.35 | thingfish | I exist in a confused state. |
| 00:52.00 | thingfish | brought on by my total acceptance of reality as it presents itself to me. |
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| 00:52.43 | thingfish | hey what happened to jethro? |
| 00:52.50 | SimonRaven | filtered through your senses |
| 00:52.50 | thingfish | !seen jethro |
| 00:52.51 | dpkg | jethro is currently on #debian-bots |
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| 00:54.14 | bucky | ke6isf: what kind of fancy pants are these? http://www.northarc.com/~ke6isf/personal/wedding/2/2_011_9a.jpg |
| 00:54.33 | bucky | are you a quaker? |
| 00:55.13 | thingfish | yeah, is that benjamin franklin? |
| 00:55.22 | thingfish | or jack black? |
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| 00:56.01 | thingfish | prime rib on that buffet table, for sure. |
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| 00:56.11 | bucky | a friend of Nixon |
| 00:56.32 | thingfish | it's mostaccioli |
| 00:56.50 | thingfish | ch would be a k sound |
| 00:56.53 | dondelelcaro | bucky: eh? that sure looks like a kilt with a sporran |
| 00:57.14 | bucky | no idea |
| 00:57.29 | fpitt_ | night! |
| 00:57.57 | SimonRaven | yeh, that's a kilt |
| 00:58.00 | bucky | don't the scots wear a badger pelt for a cup? |
| 00:58.04 | bouh | morning! |
| 00:58.06 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:58.14 | SimonRaven | you mean sporran |
| 00:58.14 | thingfish | excellent bucky |
| 00:58.15 | wang | thingfish : i'll go ahead and file that under "who cares" |
| 00:58.17 | wang | =P |
| 00:58.40 | SimonRaven | i'll file what you say under /ignore |
| 00:58.47 | wang | be my guest? |
| 00:58.48 | wang | heh |
| 00:58.57 | dondelelcaro | bucky: it's not a cup, it's a portable pocket. |
| 00:59.01 | wang | i wasn't even talking to you retard |
| 00:59.11 | thingfish | such a sweet child... |
| 00:59.12 | dondelelcaro | wang: lay off the insults, please. |
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| 00:59.19 | wang | k |
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| 00:59.40 | bucky | bad visual.. Madonna's husband |
| 00:59.52 | thingfish | no, madonna's husband is not all that bad. |
| 01:00.30 | thingfish | you know he's got to have some balls, to stand up to *that*. |
| 01:01.26 | thingfish | of course, he's probably a suse person... |
| 01:02.12 | fbi | Irssi: Unknown command: pizza |
| 01:03.14 | ke6isf | bucky: It's a kilt. |
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| 01:04.21 | thingfish | I just don't get kilts. I mean, it's cold in Scotland. |
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| 01:04.51 | dondelelcaro | thingfish: that's why they wear long socks |
| 01:05.10 | Guerin | kilts aren't cold |
| 01:05.15 | thingfish | dondelelcaro: yeah but the socks I've seen don't reach up far enough, it looks like to me. |
| 01:05.20 | Guerin | they're about five kilos of pure wool |
| 01:05.27 | ke6isf | thingfish: A grand kilt, typically, is pretty heavy weight, hangs over the shoulder as well as around the waist as the skirt, and goes about half way down the shins. |
| 01:05.28 | thingfish | ooh nice |
| 01:05.40 | ke6isf | thingfish: Basically, it's quite large when unravelled. |
| 01:05.42 | thingfish | well wool is warm, for sure. |
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| 01:06.02 | thingfish | I guess I was thinking acrylic. |
| 01:06.05 | Guerin | the my kilt cost more than my wwife'ss handmade wedding dress |
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| 01:06.13 | Guerin | that's how much wool goes into them |
| 01:06.14 | thingfish | no way! |
| 01:06.15 | bouh | lol |
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| 01:06.17 | thingfish | wow |
| 01:06.21 | levander | Anybody can tell me why when I chroot to where /dev/hda2 is mounted everything works fine, but the output of a basic 'mount' command now thinks /dev/hda2 is /dev/hda3? |
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| 01:06.36 | ke6isf | Guerin: I had to settle on a rental, and according to the woman I rented from, finding my tartan is like finding hens' teeth. |
| 01:06.51 | SimonRaven | ke6isf: what tartan? |
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| 01:06.55 | Guerin | ke6isf: heh. I get to choose macdonald or black watch, nice and easy. |
| 01:06.56 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: Bagwell. |
| 01:06.57 | thingfish | heritage stuff is cool. |
| 01:07.02 | SimonRaven | !tell mikecool -about root |
| 01:07.09 | levander | I think this is what's messing up when I run 'grub-install', that somehow the system thinks /dev/hda2 is /dev/hda3 |
| 01:07.09 | ke6isf | Guerin: Just went black watch on mine. |
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| 01:07.19 | thingfish | tartan is a particular pattern, denoting a given tribe (?) |
| 01:07.20 | Guerin | ke6isf: so I see. |
| 01:07.25 | dondelelcaro | thingfish: clan, yes. |
| 01:07.38 | thingfish | clan, yes, that's what I was looking for. |
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| 01:08.04 | SimonRaven | ke6isf: yikes. mine're pretty common, macdonald and maclaren |
| 01:08.11 | mikecool | hi i wonder has anyonce come accros not being able to hear cds in debian but normal sound is working |
| 01:08.16 | ke6isf | SimonRaven: Oh, you bastard! =) |
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| 01:08.36 | dondelelcaro | mikecool: cds work through an entirely different method on most machines; they run directly to the soundcard. |
| 01:08.38 | thingfish | the scots were hardy people. and they invented scotch, god bless them. |
| 01:08.44 | ke6isf | mikecool: Did you wire the audio cable from your CD drive to your sound card? |
| 01:08.49 | thingfish | me too, SimonRaven. |
| 01:08.57 | bouh | levander: you "chroot mount " ? |
| 01:08.58 | bucky | thingfish: and AC/DC |
| 01:08.59 | thingfish | italian, irish, german, native american... |
| 01:08.59 | ke6isf | One of these days I shall try scotch whiskey. |
| 01:09.06 | mikecool | i dont as i did not make the computer but it works in windows |
| 01:09.10 | bouh | i did not quite get your question |
| 01:09.26 | thingfish | bucky: well I am not AC/DC at al. |
| 01:09.29 | thingfish | *all |
| 01:09.32 | ke6isf | mikecool: Double check the mixer settings then? |
| 01:09.37 | mikecool | i have |
| 01:09.48 | bucky | the band! |
| 01:09.50 | dondelelcaro | mikecool: windows often reads the cd with cdda and then plays the sound out using the soudcard. |
| 01:09.57 | dondelelcaro | mikecool: so it's a totally different process. |
| 01:10.02 | SimonRaven | french, scot, cree, and maybe some micmac on my dad's side, not sure. my paternal granny says so |
| 01:10.03 | amd_goon | in sources.list, is it going to give future grief to have mirrors with stable testing and unstable listed? I see this as the default in some live cd distros like knoppix |
| 01:10.21 | thingfish | ke6isf: get a single malt Islay scotch. Pour it over ice; float a wee bit of Drambuie on top...heaven. |
| 01:10.30 | dondelelcaro | ice? ICE? |
| 01:10.30 | Guerin | thingfish: wtf |
| 01:10.34 | thingfish | ooh sweet, SimonRaven |
| 01:10.36 | SimonRaven | the french on my dad's is acadian |
| 01:10.39 | Guerin | and drambuie in scotch? |
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| 01:10.43 | Guerin | !pal thingfish |
| 01:10.48 | thingfish | Guerin: it's called a rusty nail. |
| 01:10.55 | thingfish | so there. |
| 01:11.05 | Guerin | thingfish: i know what a rusty nail is, and it's NOT made with malt sscotch ... or ice |
| 01:11.05 | mikecool | i have two drives would i need to add the audio cable to both of thoes drives if i wanted to hear auido form them |
| 01:11.09 | thingfish | !pal Guerin |
| 01:11.10 | ke6isf | thingfish: I shall have to try that one day when I get a few bucks at a random bar. |
| 01:11.13 | RootRocker | someon can help me with sound setup? debian.de wasnt a kind help |
| 01:11.21 | dondelelcaro | RootRocker: just ask your question |
| 01:11.35 | ke6isf | !tell RootRocker -about sound |
| 01:11.37 | war92 | apt-get install kde (In Etch) --> kde: Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed <- Anyone know how to fix? |
| 01:11.49 | thingfish | Guerin: well, true, I mean you wouldn't waste a malt scotch on it, would you. SHows you what I know; I'm a gin or bourbon drinker. |
| 01:11.57 | ke6isf | !info kde-amusements etch |
| 01:12.03 | dpkg | kde-amusements: (the K Desktop Environment games and toys modules), section kde, is optional. Version: 5:45 (etch), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 16 kB |
| 01:12.07 | SimonRaven | it's like whomever said "everything fucks everything else". they were quite right ;) |
| 01:12.08 | dondelelcaro | mikecool: either that, or use one of the cdda2wav->wav plugins; xmms has one, your favorite media app should have one too. |
| 01:12.18 | war92 | ke6isf: hmm well it is stopping me from installing kde? |
| 01:12.26 | thingfish | but then, ick on malt scotches, I prefer kentucky bourbon. |
| 01:12.48 | RootRocker | thanks you already helped me alot more than the other chans |
| 01:12.50 | Guerin | i have a bottle of Talisker 10yo which i brought back from NZ on the plane, and am going to drink on the boat as I start my overland trip from korea to the isle of skye, where the stuff is made |
| 01:12.54 | thingfish | oh now come on, southern comfort? |
| 01:12.55 | amd_goon | canadian rye for me thanks |
| 01:13.07 | ke6isf | thingfish: Hey, I like southern comfort! |
| 01:13.14 | thingfish | I hear there are some good canadian blends... |
| 01:13.32 | thingfish | but it's hard to beat maker's mark or knob creek. |
| 01:13.34 | amd_goon | yes wiser's oldest is excellent |
| 01:13.37 | SimonRaven | that's cuz they're a buncha drunkards ;) |
| 01:13.55 | thingfish | on saturday night, yes. |
| 01:13.56 | war92 | k? |
| 01:13.59 | amd_goon | but I'm just guessing that it is canadian |
| 01:14.21 | thingfish | you want the good stuff, you go to kentucky. |
| 01:14.23 | amd_goon | yes knob creeeek |
| 01:14.26 | thingfish | yes! |
| 01:14.28 | thingfish | my man! |
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| 01:14.43 | thingfish | yummy goodness |
| 01:14.52 | thingfish | I want to work for them. |
| 01:15.33 | thingfish | or start my own small batch distillery. |
| 01:15.39 | thingfish | but that's a dream... |
| 01:15.40 | war92 | erc: Package kdeaddons has no installation candidate |
| 01:15.43 | war92 | seems like a nasty loop |
| 01:15.44 | RootRocker | how can I setup alsa as sound demon? |
| 01:15.46 | war92 | cant install kde |
| 01:16.00 | thingfish | oh mead can be wonderful... |
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| 01:16.05 | ke6isf | !tell RootRocker -about alsa |
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| 01:16.14 | SimonRaven | RootRocker: alsa doesn't have a sound daemon. nor do you need one |
| 01:16.16 | ke6isf | thingfish: I made a downright stupid mistake on my first attempt at it years ago. |
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| 01:16.23 | RootRocker | yes I read that |
| 01:16.31 | thingfish | hehe like what, ke6isf? |
| 01:16.37 | RootRocker | alsaconf prints some strange errors |
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| 01:16.56 | ke6isf | thingfish: I decided to do a stupid shortcut and used bread yeast.... |
| 01:17.04 | thingfish | hahaha I knew it. |
| 01:17.06 | amd_goon | woops |
| 01:17.22 | RootRocker | and Im member of audio |
| 01:17.23 | mathias64 | anyone else here run into the problem where synaptic segfaults on startup? |
| 01:17.23 | amd_goon | join #kanotix |
| 01:17.27 | thingfish | good one, ke6isf. |
| 01:17.28 | Ronin | mead? now theres something i havent tried brewing yet |
| 01:17.39 | thingfish | oh good mead is incredible stuff. |
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| 01:17.48 | ke6isf | Ronin: Google turns up dozens of recipes on a simple search. |
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| 01:17.58 | thingfish | my old boss brought back some from scotland, years ago, it was heavenly stuff. |
| 01:18.05 | Ronin | ke6isf: its on my very long list of things to brew :) |
| 01:18.12 | thingfish | a tad sweet, but good nonetheless. |
| 01:18.13 | ke6isf | thingfish: Indeed, and we're not talking that Chaucer's stuff either. |
| 01:18.14 | RootRocker | Mead is this HoneyWine? |
| 01:18.19 | thingfish | yes |
| 01:18.22 | ke6isf | RootRocker: Precisely. |
| 01:18.25 | RootRocker | my dad makes every year |
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| 01:18.30 | thingfish | neat! |
| 01:18.33 | Ronin | oops hockeys back on |
| 01:18.33 | RootRocker | hes a imker |
| 01:18.38 | RootRocker | ore how you say |
| 01:18.41 | RootRocker | BeeMan :P |
| 01:18.42 | thingfish | my dad is currently in the process of making peach wine. |
| 01:18.49 | war92 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: -> kde: Depends: kde-amusements but it is not going to be installed |
| 01:18.52 | war92 | any idea how to fix? |
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| 01:18.54 | thingfish | I can't wait to see how it turns out. |
| 01:18.56 | SimonRaven | beekeeper |
| 01:18.58 | ke6isf | I just bought a brand new carboy, and now need to get an airlock and the wine yeast. |
| 01:19.28 | thingfish | he made some dandelion wine years ago that turned out to be a lot like sherry...plus it kicked your ass. |
| 01:19.31 | SimonRaven | war92: stop trying to install 'kde' and install the other stuff separately instead |
| 01:19.37 | ke6isf | I know one dude in Albuquerque who did a rather dry sparkling mead 1.5 years ago - it wasn't what he was expecting, but it was pretty good. |
| 01:19.41 | war92 | SimAtWrk: I do that and the other things have the problems too |
| 01:19.46 | RootRocker | somene can help me personal step by step to config 5.1 sound on this system? |
| 01:19.52 | war92 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:19.54 | war92 | etc etc |
| 01:20.01 | thingfish | neat-o, sparkling mead, sounds dee-lish. |
| 01:20.11 | SimonRaven | so you install it if you want it... |
| 01:20.24 | war92 | SimAtWrk: I cant, it doesnt let me |
| 01:20.29 | thingfish | blondie must be european. |
| 01:20.38 | blondie|bed | no, i'm british |
| 01:20.42 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:20.43 | mikecool | thanks guys for you help |
| 01:20.49 | mikecool | im off now |
| 01:20.49 | RootRocker | briten isnt eu? |
| 01:20.52 | RootRocker | :P |
| 01:21.05 | thingfish | blondie|bed: that's *infinitely* better! |
| 01:21.12 | SimonRaven | afk |
| 01:21.28 | thingfish | I gotta cook something. |
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| 01:21.34 | RootRocker | its hard to make things work on linux for me |
| 01:21.41 | thingfish | oh poo, RootRocker. |
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| 01:21.45 | ke6isf | Guess I better start drinking lotsa wine. |
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| 01:21.51 | thingfish | well of course, ke6isf. |
| 01:21.54 | thma | anybody know what module to use for Nvidia ck8s NIC |
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| 01:22.12 | thingfish | it's time for the beaujolais nouveau, isn't it? |
| 01:22.13 | jhong | hi everyone, i have a usb external hd that has been added to fstab, i can mount it manually without any problem, but it doesn't mount automatically at startup |
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| 01:22.39 | thma | jhong: add auto to fstab |
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| 01:22.54 | bouh | needed modules loaded at startup ? |
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| 01:23.10 | jhong | bouh: what module? |
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| 01:23.37 | mathias64 | does anyone here know what's going on with synaptic? |
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| 01:24.01 | ke6isf | mathias64: Care to elaborate? |
| 01:24.10 | thma | mathias64: idk |
| 01:24.20 | mathias64 | idk? |
| 01:24.24 | Bobson | I spend the day at a friends house helping her with her i386 box |
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| 01:24.47 | Guerin | !idk |
| 01:24.47 | dpkg | from memory, idk is I don't know... Do you? |
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| 01:25.08 | Bobson | after the 'apt-get dist-upgrade' from stable sarge to unstable failed |
| 01:25.11 | bouh | jhong usbcore, uhci_hcd, ehci_hcd |
| 01:25.23 | Bobson | I installed unstable from scratch |
| 01:25.35 | ke6isf | !tell Bobson -about enter |
| 01:25.49 | mathias64 | ke6isf: it started to segfault on startup. I looked at the bugs list, there seem to be a lot of reports of this. I run apt-get update, synaptic is removed for a library dependancy. a different library issue has just been resolved. I made the deb myself and installed it, and now it works. i want to know if anyone knows if synaptic is in some heavy development phase, or if libapt is, or generally what's up. |
| 01:25.49 | jhong | thma: will try, but one of my ide hd partitions does mount automatically without having "auto" in fstab |
| 01:25.50 | Bobson | how come I couldn't install k3b de to some dependency brokenness? |
| 01:26.06 | _rene_ | because it's called unstable for a reason ;) |
| 01:26.17 | ke6isf | mathias64: What version of Debian are you using? |
| 01:26.22 | Bobson | ke6isf, sorry |
| 01:26.33 | _rene_ | k3b needs to be rebuild against a renamed kdelibs package |
| 01:26.38 | ke6isf | Bobson: No worries, just using enter as punctuation makes the questions hard to read. |
| 01:26.53 | mathias64 | ke6isf: amd64 unstable. I _know_ it's unstable. I am asking _why_ is synaptic unstable right now. |
| 01:26.56 | _rene_ | and kdelibs needed to be renamed because the C++ allocator changed which changed ABI |
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| 01:27.31 | jhong | bouh: thanks, i'll try adding the modules to /etc/modules |
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| 01:28.18 | Bobson | _rene_, so it is somewhat messed up situation wise and I'm not just being an idiot then... :) |
| 01:28.28 | RootRocker | dpkg is cool |
| 01:28.34 | RootRocker | very helpfull thanks |
| 01:28.35 | bouh | jhong: if you use udev or hotplug they should be detected at startup. Check dmesg to see if they are present. |
| 01:28.47 | war92 | erc: Package kdeaddons has no installation candidate |
| 01:28.52 | war92 | I think KDE in etch is borked |
| 01:29.13 | bouh | war92: I don't think so :) |
| 01:29.13 | predius_ | KDE in unstable is VERY b0rked. |
| 01:29.32 | jhong | bouh: dmesg|grep sda |
| 01:29.32 | jhong | SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte hdwr sectors (120034 MB) |
| 01:29.32 | jhong | sda: assuming drive cache: write through |
| 01:29.32 | jhong | SCSI device sda: 234441648 512-byte hdwr sectors (120034 MB) |
| 01:29.32 | jhong | sda: assuming drive cache: write through |
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| 01:29.38 | RootRocker | do you use Xfce then? |
| 01:29.45 | war92 | apt using console |
| 01:29.48 | war92 | atm* |
| 01:30.03 | RootRocker | console only? |
| 01:30.09 | RootRocker | hardcoe |
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| 01:30.14 | bouh | jhong: what's your fstab is saying ? |
| 01:30.29 | predius_ | bouh: he's not here. |
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| 01:30.36 | thma | jhoug pastebin you fstab |
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| 01:30.53 | thma | jhoug: pastebin your fstab if still having issues |
| 01:30.54 | bouh | predius: ? |
| 01:31.02 | predius_ | jhong: paste.debian.net |
| 01:31.12 | predius_ | bouh: he was kicked when you said that. |
| 01:31.18 | bouh | oh alright :) |
| 01:31.24 | jhong | sorry... |
| 01:31.28 | jhong | i was kicked out |
| 01:31.52 | thma | thx predius_ I am new here |
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| 01:32.46 | bouh | jhong paste in your line in fstab |
| 01:32.52 | jhong | /dev/sda1 /extra ext3 defaults 0 0 |
| 01:33.36 | bouh | that works after bootup when you mount /extra right ? |
| 01:33.43 | jhong | yes |
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| 01:34.11 | jhong | everytime i have to mount it manually |
| 01:34.12 | bouh | well I think thma got it right, may be you try adding auto first |
| 01:34.29 | mathias64 | here's another question, this one for policy experts; why is synaptic in /usr/sbin but aptitude is in /usr/bin? Is that a bug? |
| 01:34.35 | jhong | isn't it by default auto? |
| 01:34.47 | bouh | let me check |
| 01:34.49 | predius_ | mathias64: sbin is for root binaries, adaik. |
| 01:34.50 | mathias64 | synaptic |
| 01:34.50 | predius_ | *afaik. |
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| 01:35.43 | mathias64 | right. the policy is very strange, so ifconfig goes in /usr/sbin but dpkg goes in /usr/bin. The questtion is why is synaptic in sbin when aptitude and dpkg are in bin? |
| 01:35.43 | predius_ | mathias64: while a normal user can use aptitude to do things like search for packages. |
| 01:36.32 | mathias64 | OK. I checked, and synaptic does bail when a non-root user runs it (which I didn't expect, since aptitude doesn't bail and synaptic is ``just gtk aptitude'') |
| 01:36.32 | JimBodkins | anyone familiar with boot.img.gz and bootable memory sticks? |
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| 01:37.26 | predius_ | mathias64: dpkg works with debs, it does not only install them,. |
| 01:37.30 | predius_ | it does other things. |
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| 01:37.50 | mathias64 | Why shouldn't a normal user be able to search for packages with synaptic? |
| 01:37.55 | bouh | jhong: yes it should mount, you are right |
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| 01:38.06 | Lars^^ | Does anybody know if its possibel to install Debian on a Sun RAQ 550. Ive only ben able to find it on Qube and so on. The RAQ 550 has Intel based cpu. |
| 01:38.06 | mathias64 | I am just trying to figure out what is going on. |
| 01:38.17 | opal_ | 1 |
| 01:38.17 | bolrod | mathias64: you can search as normal user |
| 01:38.24 | jhong | bouh: so what could be the problem? |
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| 01:38.47 | mathias64 | bolrod: but synaptic will not allow yo to run it except as root, and is installed in sbin. aptitude (and apt-get and dpkg) are installed in /usr/bin |
| 01:39.00 | bolrod | yes |
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| 01:39.04 | bolrod | apt-cache search |
| 01:39.08 | bolrod | lets you search |
| 01:39.09 | JimBodkins | What are the chances that RAQ 550 could be probed and identified (hardware) so appropriate drivers could be used? |
| 01:39.11 | bolrod | so you cacn use that... |
| 01:39.13 | thma | jhong: why not try auto |
| 01:39.14 | mathias64 | From the synaptic README: Synaptic is used very much like apt-get. |
| 01:39.35 | bolrod | didn't synaptic use apt-get ? |
| 01:39.37 | bolrod | or apt |
| 01:39.39 | Guerin | yes |
| 01:39.41 | JimBodkins | synaptic is third party |
| 01:39.44 | jhong | is fstab loaded before the usb device is detected? |
| 01:39.52 | azeem | synaptic uses libapt |
| 01:40.01 | azeem | AFAIK, at least |
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| 01:40.07 | bolrod | so.. you could make synaptic executable for users |
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| 01:40.08 | jhong | thma: ok, i'll try auto now, will be back soon |
| 01:40.21 | bolrod | dont think normal users can install things anyway then |
| 01:40.27 | mathias64 | bolrod: the program itself will exit if you aren't root. It tells you so. Try it. |
| 01:40.43 | bolrod | hmm.. |
| 01:40.46 | JimBodkins | device detection must happen prior to mounting devices |
| 01:40.51 | mathias64 | bolrod: but normal uses can run aptitude, even though they can't install. They can run apt-get, so that they can do apt-get source et. al. |
| 01:41.17 | azeem | mathias64: so the aptitude and synaptic authors choose different policies. That happens. |
| 01:41.22 | bolrod | yes... but I'm root on my own computer.. so I dont really bother about it |
| 01:41.23 | bolrod | :) |
| 01:41.25 | azeem | s/choose/chose/ |
| 01:41.41 | predius_ | yeah, but you'd lose all your work if you selected a bunch of packages and had accidentally started synaptic as normal user. |
| 01:41.53 | bolrod | ? |
| 01:41.59 | mathias64 | predius: the same is true of aptitude but I can run that as non-root |
| 01:42.15 | predius_ | mathias64: you can just cipy the list of packages and paste them in a root terminal. |
| 01:42.33 | JimBodkins | apptitude looks as if it is from the 'good ole days' when security meant nearly nothing. Not true anymore. |
| 01:42.53 | Guerin | wtf |
| 01:42.54 | mathias64 | Huh? aptitude is a new kid on the block by my standards. |
| 01:42.56 | predius_ | wtf |
| 01:42.59 | predius_ | yeah |
| 01:43.07 | Guerin | JimBodkins: justification? |
| 01:43.11 | predius_ | still, you can run aptitude but you can't install. |
| 01:43.12 | JimBodkins | aptitude? the curses based tool? |
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| 01:43.24 | mathias64 | JimBodkins: aptitude, the confusing replacement for dselect? |
| 01:43.25 | Guerin | JimBodkins: what's insecure about it? |
| 01:43.27 | predius_ | so, what security issue is that? |
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| 01:43.45 | bolrod | never liked aptitude |
| 01:43.47 | JimBodkins | synaptic wont run unless you authenticate |
| 01:43.54 | JimBodkins | more secure |
| 01:43.56 | bolrod | you can't use it without reading the manual |
| 01:43.58 | bolrod | :/ |
| 01:44.02 | Guerin | JimBodkins: aptitude won't change anything unless you're root |
| 01:44.02 | mathias64 | JimBodkins: how exactly does that help security? |
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| 01:44.05 | azeem | JimBodkins: it's not like aptitude will do anything without root privs |
| 01:44.08 | predius_ | JimBodkins: more secure in what way? |
| 01:44.09 | Guerin | JimBodkins: you're full of shit. |
| 01:44.10 | JimBodkins | nock that crap off please |
| 01:44.13 | azeem | Guerin: please |
| 01:44.13 | LjL | JimBodkins: "ls" runs even without authenticating, is that horribly insecure? :) |
| 01:44.20 | Guerin | JimBodkins: no, you knock it off. |
| 01:44.24 | predius_ | LjL: yeah, you should report that. |
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| 01:44.30 | Guerin | JimBodkins: you're just making shit up. |
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| 01:44.38 | JimBodkins | I dont think determining the precise configuration of a system is secure |
| 01:44.49 | mathias64 | More secure than wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz ? |
| 01:44.51 | Guerin | JimBodkins: why not, if you can't do anything about it? |
| 01:44.52 | azeem | JimBodkins: you can do that with dpkg -l anyway |
| 01:45.03 | azeem | JimBodkins: that isn't exactly secret information |
| 01:45.03 | bolrod | as root you can tap the text entered in a pts away to your own terminal... is that a security risk ^.0 |
| 01:45.06 | bolrod | :p |
| 01:45.13 | LjL | JimBodkins: security by obscurity isn't precisely the greatest thing in the world |
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| 01:45.28 | predius_ | LjL: and you can still run dpkg -l |
| 01:45.29 | mathias64 | try ls -ld /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 01:45.29 | lgd | hi all |
| 01:45.34 | JimBodkins | security by obscurity? |
| 01:45.39 | LjL | predius_: yeah, or you could just list the files in the system, or whatever |
| 01:45.42 | Guerin | JimBodkins: never heard of it? |
| 01:45.45 | lgd | my evolution client don't work sound on reception mail |
| 01:45.48 | lgd | why? |
| 01:45.49 | Docteh | JimBodkins, security because you cant see it |
| 01:45.53 | JimBodkins | I would suggest that it is one of the best forms |
| 01:45.57 | mathias64 | lgd: does sound work for other programs? |
| 01:46.02 | Guerin | JimBodkins: then you would suggest wrong. |
| 01:46.05 | bolrod | lgd: check if your speakers are turned on |
| 01:46.10 | lgd | other program work the sound |
| 01:46.11 | Guerin | JimBodkins: look how well it's worked for windows. |
| 01:46.13 | LjL | JimBodkins: "security by obscurity" is a term commonly used to refer to (pseudo) security that is obtained by trying to make users unaware of some of the system's specifics |
| 01:46.13 | lgd | only evolution |
| 01:46.18 | lgd | is a bug? |
| 01:46.29 | bolrod | is another program using the sound... |
| 01:46.31 | azeem | lgd: are you sure it should play a sound? |
| 01:46.32 | JimBodkins | Guerin, if you have no idea what to attack, please tell me how you would go about attacking it - that which you dont know? |
| 01:46.33 | bolrod | while you try evolution |
| 01:46.33 | lgd | my system sound is ok |
| 01:46.33 | amd_goon | what Guerin said |
| 01:46.49 | lgd | yes i'm sure |
| 01:47.01 | bouh | using a sound server ? |
| 01:47.03 | mathias64 | JimBodkins: try ``google security by obscurity is a load of shit'' |
| 01:47.07 | Guerin | JimBodkins: no, you see - I *KNOW* what I'm talking about here - it's you who seems to be wandering aimlessly in the intellectual desert. |
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| 01:47.09 | azeem | JimBodkins: as we pointed out, the information is nicely laid out in various files of your file system |
| 01:47.10 | antgel_ | JimBodkins: is there a point to your trolling? |
| 01:47.10 | Guerin | JimBodkins: without a camel. |
| 01:47.17 | bouh | can two programs play sound at the same time on your system ? |
| 01:47.19 | lgd | no i'm using normal sound driver |
| 01:47.24 | yzrider088 | im on debian right now...how do i copy a file from my winxp box to it? |
| 01:47.26 | lgd | i don't know |
| 01:47.27 | Docteh | JimBodkins, you attack things you figure you can attack, like all those connection attempts you get on port 22 from .tw |
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| 01:47.38 | lgd | i use driver of kernel |
| 01:47.41 | mathias64 | yzrider: does the xp box have any file sharing? |
| 01:47.46 | yzrider088 | yup |
| 01:47.46 | lgd | ess maestro3 |
| 01:47.47 | yzrider088 | its setup |
| 01:47.52 | jhong | i'm back... adding "auto" to fstab didn't work |
| 01:47.55 | yzrider088 | i have samba-client installed but smbmount isnt a command... |
| 01:47.57 | JimBodkins | I'm not trolling, you appear to be a little defensive however. I came to ask a question, not befriend and idiot like you. |
| 01:47.57 | lgd | but my sound card work |
| 01:47.58 | predius_ | yzrider088: is it the same machine? |
| 01:48.00 | predius_ | ah, ok. |
| 01:48.06 | yzrider088 | what do you mean same machine? |
| 01:48.11 | predius_ | no, nothing. |
| 01:48.12 | yzrider088 | no..seperate |
| 01:48.18 | lgd | is only evolution i don't know is bug or other |
| 01:48.18 | antgel_ | JimBodkins: is that me you are calling an idiot? |
| 01:48.22 | yzrider088 | seperate pc's.. |
| 01:48.22 | jhong | yzrider088: apt-get install smbfs |
| 01:48.27 | JimBodkins | no |
| 01:48.28 | Ronin | heh i see i returned at a good time, :) idiot like you :) |
| 01:48.28 | bouh | may be you can try with esd |
| 01:48.33 | azeem | why don't you all ignore JimBodkins |
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| 01:48.34 | bouh | a sound server |
| 01:48.34 | yzrider088 | k its done |
| 01:48.35 | yzrider088 | now what? |
| 01:48.41 | lgd | think you? |
| 01:48.41 | Guerin | JimBodkins: and then you started making up baseless bullshit about one of debian's tools. We're still waiting for you to justify it, or at least admit you picked up the bong a bit early this morning. |
| 01:48.46 | bouh | evolution might be configured to use it ... |
| 01:48.55 | Guerin | azeem: why doesn't JimBodkins stop trolling? |
| 01:49.02 | yzrider088 | Guerin: because hes a troll? |
| 01:49.05 | azeem | Guerin: because he is a troll, d'oh ;) |
| 01:49.06 | lgd | i have setup the wav sound on reception mail |
| 01:49.10 | Guerin | it's in his nature |
| 01:49.12 | bouh | however I don't have evolution my self, so I might not be the best person to help you ;) |
| 01:49.15 | yzrider088 | indeed |
| 01:49.23 | azeem | they want to be fed |
| 01:49.29 | scotth | can anyone give me some quick pointers on the security of courier imap/smtp servers. Specifically how its smtp server stacks up to postfix. People seem to like the imap server but use postfix instead of couriers internal one. I'm wondering why |
| 01:49.34 | yzrider088 | JimBodkins == "lik omfg LinUx 4 Lif!" |
| 01:49.45 | azeem | like from yzrider088 |
| 01:49.47 | JimBodkins | Guerin, argue with your mother. The fact is you cant attack what you cant identiry. If I were a troll, I would come back. I wont be doing that. I came for a question which appears to be unanswerable. |
| 01:49.55 | bouh | jhong: any more message about sda in your dmesg |
| 01:49.57 | Guerin | scotth: the imap server is good, but I wouldn't use the smmtp server for anything critical |
| 01:50.08 | mathias64 | yzrider088: you got the file to copy, then? |
| 01:50.11 | lgd | someone use the evolution with notify sound on mail reception? |
| 01:50.12 | Guerin | JimBodkins: hurrah for that! |
| 01:50.14 | jhong | bouh: same messages... |
| 01:50.24 | yzrider088 | oh heh what do you know, smbmount is in the smbfs package, not samba-client :D |
| 01:50.24 | JimBodkins | pleasant group. :( |
| 01:50.27 | azeem | JimBodkins: well, maybe restate your question later on |
| 01:50.30 | Guerin | scotth: i wouldn't use it over postfix, I mean |
| 01:50.35 | antgel_ | JimBodkins: you are liable to get banned for personal abuse |
| 01:50.49 | lgd | like outlook express the sound "glin glon" |
| 01:50.51 | JimBodkins | antgel? Who is being abusive? |
| 01:50.52 | azeem | antgel_: well, he wasn't the first to get personal |
| 01:50.52 | scotth | Guerin, why? I keep hearing that statement but nothing to back up(I love postfix but I'm really curious why not to use courier smtp) |
| 01:50.54 | Guerin | JimBodkins: yeah, we're always this pleasant to people who talk bullshit and then insult us for calling them on it. |
| 01:50.56 | Ronin | lgd: i did, but i had to start gnome control before it worked |
| 01:50.58 | jhong | bouh: but i saw something like "sda1 is not a valid block device..." |
| 01:51.10 | bouh | ok |
| 01:51.12 | Guerin | scotth: no tangible reason. |
| 01:51.12 | lgd | but gnome work |
| 01:51.18 | Ronin | lgd: i then got tired really fast of that damn sound going off all the time and killed it |
| 01:51.23 | predius_ | jhong: modprobe usb-storage |
| 01:51.38 | yzrider088 | shit how do i copy § into my linux box? |
| 01:51.42 | yzrider088 | im using putty and it wont work |
| 01:51.46 | antgel_ | azeem: noted but he's still crusing for a brusing. JimBodkins indeed... |
| 01:51.47 | yzrider088 | ALT+789 keycode on my pc |
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| 01:51.52 | mathias64 | yzrider088: you have a file with the symbol in the name? |
| 01:51.56 | scotth | Guerin, mk, I guess postfix survives, glad to get rid of uw-imap though |
| 01:51.58 | yzrider088 | na password |
| 01:52.01 | JimBodkins | I modded putty to do 132 column (smaller font) |
| 01:52.04 | Guerin | scotth: eew, yeah. |
| 01:52.11 | antgel_ | JimBodkins: you are being abusive |
| 01:52.18 | Ronin | yzrider088: pscp? |
| 01:52.21 | JimBodkins | antgel, how? |
| 01:52.23 | yzrider088 | Jim: ok that has nothing to do with what im talking about.... |
| 01:52.25 | yzrider088 | who cares? |
| 01:52.26 | jhong | predius_: i can actually mount it now without running modprobe usb-storage |
| 01:52.34 | JimBodkins | do a google yzrider |
| 01:52.34 | mathias64 | yzrider: no idea. I'm spoiled by my limited use of the charset |
| 01:52.37 | JimBodkins | you would be suprised |
| 01:52.38 | positron| | i have configured my kernel and i did make-kpkg clean. how do i now install it? make-kpkg mykernel kernel-image wont work |
| 01:52.42 | JimBodkins | I for one |
| 01:52.44 | yzrider088 | hehe |
| 01:52.55 | bouh | can you mount it |
| 01:53.00 | positron| | i mean i want to do the package |
| 01:53.03 | bouh | and paste your lsmod |
| 01:53.13 | yzrider088 | JimBodkins im trying to learn irc scripting and i was wondering if /part yzr88 works? |
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| 01:53.20 | yzrider088 | can you try it for me |
| 01:53.20 | SerajewelKS | what happens if i call getenv() and store the returned pointer, and that environment variable is set later? does it get overwritten? |
| 01:53.23 | levander | bouh: yeah, i 'chroot <mount point>', and now the system thinks /dev/hda2 is /dev/hda3 |
| 01:53.27 | azeem | yzrider088: please stop it |
| 01:53.33 | lgd | robin_sz: have you used the sound on evolution? |
| 01:53.35 | predius_ | !tell positron| kernel compile |
| 01:53.39 | JimBodkins | I dont hang, I have no idea what that is? I just came (gaim) to ask a question. |
| 01:53.45 | predius_ | boo |
| 01:53.45 | JimBodkins | sorry |
| 01:53.47 | mathias64 | Sera: probably your local variable is NOT overwritten |
| 01:53.55 | positron| | predius_: didnt work |
| 01:54.00 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: so getenv() is calling malloc()? |
| 01:54.02 | antgel_ | JimBodkins: sorry for my late response, i have just discovered gtypist |
| 01:54.09 | azeem | JimBodkins: that is fine, just do not get caught up in discussion by issueing inflammatory comments on unrelated stuff |
| 01:54.15 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: wait, huh? |
| 01:54.15 | liable | !tell positron| about kp mantra |
| 01:54.23 | bouh | jhong: can you mount it and give your lsmod output... |
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| 01:54.25 | thingfish | haha antgel, me too, and it's screwing me all up. |
| 01:54.29 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: getenv() returns (char*) |
| 01:54.31 | mathias64 | getenv |
| 01:54.37 | predius_ | positron|: :) |
| 01:54.41 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: what happens if the environment variable is changed with putenv()? |
| 01:54.42 | JimBodkins | no one familiar with boot.img.gz and its origins? Ok, sorry to bother you. I'm out |
| 01:54.43 | levander | Somebody can tell me why after I've mount /dev/hda2 on a directory, then chroot to this directory, the system now thinks that /dev/hda2 is /dev/hda3? |
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| 01:54.51 | vladuz976 | how can i figure out how my computer was shut down the last time? it keeps turning off when i am not home. |
| 01:54.56 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: to pointers previously returned by getenv() |
| 01:55.06 | SerajewelKS | or yeah... |
| 01:55.09 | positron| | thanks |
| 01:55.18 | Guerin | vladuz976: read syslog |
| 01:55.18 | bouh | levander: what's the problem behind ? |
| 01:55.19 | liable | vladuz976: logs |
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| 01:55.28 | predius_ | vladuz976: $ uptime |
| 01:55.39 | arron | is there a channel for debian-powerpc ? |
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| 01:55.53 | thingfish | arron: try #debianppc |
| 01:55.56 | vladuz976 | uptime doesn't tell me that |
| 01:55.58 | arron | thx |
| 01:56.10 | levander | bouh: the reason i care is because in this chroot environment, i'm 'install-grub /dev/hda' and when i boot, grub looks for /dev/hda3, not /dev/hda2 |
| 01:56.10 | antgel_ | thingfish: it's the nuts. i had mavis beacon as a kid but could never be fucked to use it. now i'm back on the Good Typing weather! |
| 01:56.13 | vladuz976 | i am trying to figure out if the power somehow turned off |
| 01:56.17 | thingfish | hehe |
| 01:56.17 | antgel_ | s/weather/ladder |
| 01:56.19 | jhong | bouh, lsmod shows that both usb_storage and usbcore are loaded |
| 01:56.30 | levander | i think it's because the chroot environment is confused that grub is looking for /dev/hda3 |
| 01:56.32 | lgd | i have a problem with evolution |
| 01:56.32 | vladuz976 | i am reading the logs right now but it doesn't say anything |
| 01:56.39 | antgel_ | hmm, i wonder if there is a gbrain application to make me type the correct words |
| 01:56.45 | lgd | I have a problem with evolution |
| 01:56.52 | Guerin | lgd: so we hear |
| 01:56.53 | yzrider088 | whats the vncserver package called:? |
| 01:56.56 | antgel_ | lgd: it's just a theory |
| 01:56.58 | lgd | dpkg: I have a problem with evolution |
| 01:57.02 | lgd | doh |
| 01:57.08 | bouh | jhong: does he also display sg? |
| 01:57.12 | lgd | but dpkg |
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| 01:57.17 | predius_ | !tell lgd about ask |
| 01:57.19 | antgel_ | yzrider088: it's called apt-cache search vnc |
| 01:57.23 | lgd | sorry |
| 01:57.26 | predius_ | boo |
| 01:57.27 | liable | vladuz976: if there is no log saying the system is shutting down, then it was prolly a power failure. does it mention checking the fs at boot? |
| 01:57.43 | lgd | !tell lgd about i have a proble with evolution |
| 01:57.44 | jhong | bouh, sg? |
| 01:57.47 | vladuz976 | liable: hold on |
| 01:57.48 | sshock__ | jhong, what exactly is the problem? |
| 01:57.50 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: try this: int main() { setenv("FOO", "BAR"); char * a; a = getenv("FOO"); |
| 01:57.50 | mathias64 | setenv("FOO", "BAZ"); printf("%s",a); } |
| 01:58.04 | vladuz976 | liable: not in syslog |
| 01:58.08 | jhong | sshock__, my usb hd doesn't mount automatically |
| 01:58.19 | jhong | sshock__, at startup |
| 01:58.19 | azeem | lgd: just state your problem here |
| 01:58.22 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: it prints BAR not BAZ on my machine |
| 01:58.24 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: yeah i asked ##c since you left and they said that "a" would point to some arbitrary location after that |
| 01:58.26 | sshock__ | jhong, why not just add the mount command to one of your startup scripts or something? |
| 01:58.39 | antgel_ | thingfish: what's your speed? i'm 40-45 raw, 30-40 adjusted. still on lesson 1 |
| 01:58.42 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: interesting |
| 01:58.43 | levander | Has anyone ever copied their linux partitions over to a new disk, then try to make that new disk bootable? |
| 01:58.48 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: you can often test these library questions with little programs like the one i posted |
| 01:58.51 | yzrider088 | whats a good site explaining pointers, i just cant grasp that concept anyone know? |
| 01:58.55 | antgel_ | !tell levander about anyone |
| 01:58.59 | bouh | jhong: I think sg must be loaded too, I am trying to figure out what can be the missing modules at startup |
| 01:58.59 | liable | levander: /msg dpkg hard drive upgrade |
| 01:59.02 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: just because it would work doesn't mean it would be right though |
| 01:59.03 | jhong | sshock__, hmm.. that should work, but still wanna know the proper way... |
| 01:59.13 | thingfish | antgel_: I'm in the 30's. |
| 01:59.13 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: makes me wonder if getenv("PATH") == getenv("PATH") ... |
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| 01:59.23 | antgel_ | thingfish: for both? what lesson? |
| 01:59.25 | sshock__ | jhong, yeah, I used to be that way too; now I just do whatever works fastest :) |
| 01:59.27 | yzrider088 | !tell antgel_ about having a life |
| 01:59.27 | jhong | bouh, thx |
| 01:59.30 | lgd | azeem: my problem is, evolution is valid client for manage email? and why the sound notify email don't work? |
| 01:59.50 | antgel_ | yzrider088: says the person who is triggering the bot |
| 01:59.58 | liable | lgd: does it beep if you set it to beep? |
| 01:59.59 | Ronin | lgd: dont question it just be thankful the damn sound doesnt go off all the time :) |
| 02:00.01 | yzrider088 | <dpkg> i dunno what is 'having a life'. haha |
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| 02:00.08 | bouh | jhong: may be you can try add them to /etc/module after and reboot |
| 02:00.10 | jhong | sshock__, you know what the /etc/init.d/hotplug script does? |
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| 02:00.26 | azeem | lgd: are you sure it is supposed to issue a sound? |
| 02:00.36 | Guerin | azeem: it does have that feature |
| 02:00.45 | Ronin | lgd: but to be honest it beeps fine for me but doesnt play a sound lately either |
| 02:00.49 | thingfish | antgel_: although sometimes it varies. I don't know which lesson! It's been a few days and I couldn't tell you. I do the quick lessons, series Q. |
| 02:00.54 | Guerin | liable: are you using gnome? |
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| 02:01.07 | jhong | bouh, add usbcore and usb_storage to /etc/module? |
| 02:01.08 | liable | Guerin: no |
| 02:01.20 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: they seem equal to me |
| 02:01.28 | lgd | azeem: yes is enable |
| 02:01.29 | vladuz976 | liable: is it possible that someone is messing with my system? |
| 02:01.36 | levander | antgel: why do you come in here to flame people? just wondering what you get out of it? |
| 02:01.36 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: then it probably did a free() on the old FOO and allocated a new one |
| 02:01.41 | thingfish | and right now, it all seems so painful to me so I want to forget it. |
| 02:01.41 | Guerin | lgd: if you're not using gnome, that's probably the reason why it's not working - gnomeware often needs to use its own stuff |
| 02:01.41 | liable | vladuz976: check auth.log |
| 02:01.44 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: so the old one was using a freed pointer |
| 02:01.47 | lgd | azeem: my system is enable but i don't know if evolution is enable |
| 02:01.52 | Guerin | lgd: you might need esd running |
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| 02:02.04 | liable | i am using evo in xfce and it beeps for me. |
| 02:02.05 | jhong | bouh, i'm rebooting, will be back soon |
| 02:02.13 | bouh | jhong: ok |
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| 02:02.21 | thingfish | I mean, I will put my fingers in the right spots and I will use my little fingers more, but that's it. |
| 02:02.27 | Guerin | liable: oh, ok. |
| 02:02.38 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: The pointers that the library returns are very strange. The best bet is to copy them and then forget about them as quickly as possible |
| 02:02.42 | vladuz976 | liable: what am i looking for in that log |
| 02:02.45 | lgd | Guerin: esd is alsa driver ? |
| 02:02.46 | liable | Guerin: dunno about playing a sound file though. |
| 02:02.52 | antgel_ | levander: i'm not flaming you. i'm pointing out that questions like that don't help you or me |
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| 02:02.56 | Guerin | !esd |
| 02:02.56 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, esd is the enhanced segfault daemon, or the Enlightened Sound Daemon. Some interesting things that can be done include using 'mpg123' on a remote computer, and having it connect to a local esound daemon. AKA: Evil Sound Daemon, or "my views on esd are mostly unprintable." -- Alan Cox |
| 02:03.03 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: yeah that's what i'm going to do. you know if malloc()d memory is duplicated on a fork()? |
| 02:03.09 | Guerin | lgd: that might be a red herring |
| 02:03.11 | Lars^^ | Does anybody know if its possibel to install Debian on a Sun RAQ 550. Ive only ben able to find it on Qube and so on. The RAQ 550 has Intel based cpu. |
| 02:03.19 | bouh | I am looking for a chan for linux-on-laptop |
| 02:03.21 | vladuz976 | liable: the sessions were opened for my user id only |
| 02:03.30 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: of course, unless you went out of your way to make it shared memory. |
| 02:03.34 | bouh | somebody knows ? |
| 02:03.42 | levander | antgel: well, it's good that you have such strong opinions you pm me about, but the question i asked you flamed me for asking, liable had a very informative answer for |
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| 02:03.50 | SerajewelKS | mathias64: ok thanks |
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| 02:03.53 | antgel_ | levander: so stop moaning |
| 02:04.12 | liable | vladuz976: when the kernel log ends when it was shutdown, does it actually say, klogd is stopping etc? or it just starts at the next start up log? |
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| 02:04.49 | liable | vladuz976:take a look in acpi log too if you have it, maybe shutting down due to heat? |
| 02:04.51 | lgd | but in this chanel there are a developer of evolution? |
| 02:04.56 | liable | no |
| 02:04.56 | azeem | lgd: no |
| 02:05.02 | lgd | doh |
| 02:05.10 | Lilldude10 | hey liable |
| 02:05.31 | vladuz976 | liable: i don't have that log, in kernel i don't see any klogd |
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| 02:05.52 | levander | k, thanks liable |
| 02:06.03 | lgd | is the best i use another client mail? |
| 02:06.10 | levander | liable: the other howto does have some good info in it, it is helping |
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| 02:06.24 | azeem | lgd: your choice, if you cannot live without that notification |
| 02:06.36 | predius_ | Lars^^: why would it not? |
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| 02:06.55 | lgd | azeem: but is not only notification |
| 02:07.02 | jhong | tried adding usbcore and usb_storage to /etc/modules, still doesnt' work |
| 02:07.05 | lgd | any time crash |
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| 02:07.32 | lgd | but i use gnome desktop and evolution is ufficial client mail |
| 02:07.43 | azeem | lgd: please rephrase that, what do you mean with "any time crash"? |
| 02:07.57 | liable | vladuz976: look at the difference in the logs between a normal shutdown, and the shutdown in question... |
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| 02:08.00 | lgd | some time |
| 02:08.04 | lgd | not any sorry |
| 02:08.16 | jhong | bouh, u there? |
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| 02:08.18 | azeem | lgd: well, file a bug for that |
| 02:08.22 | azeem | lgd: do you run unstable? |
| 02:08.27 | lgd | no |
| 02:08.29 | lgd | stable |
| 02:08.44 | mathias64 | SerajewelKS: read section 5.2.2 in http://www.linux.com/howtos/Secure-Programs-HOWTO/environment-variables.shtml |
| 02:08.44 | lgd | are you american? |
| 02:08.44 | bouh | jhong yet |
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| 02:08.51 | Guerin | bah, i'm stupid |
| 02:09.11 | lgd | in usa now what time is it? |
| 02:09.12 | jhong | bouh, tried adding usb_storage to modules, same thing |
| 02:09.45 | Guerin | how does one UN-fold a text file? this damn thing is folded to 80 columns, and I want the lines to be unfolded, but I want the paragraphs to remain in tact |
| 02:09.57 | A3K | my, but kontact is taking forever to load |
| 02:10.04 | Guerin | so tr "\r\n" " " ain't the ticket |
| 02:10.25 | vladuz976 | liable: the last shutdown doesn't say "going down" all others do |
| 02:10.35 | lgd | but is there a client mail so notify with a voice? |
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| 02:10.43 | liable | vladuz976: prolly a power failure then |
| 02:10.45 | A3K | this may be a reset for my uptime |
| 02:10.49 | amphi | Guerin: fmt won't do it? |
| 02:10.50 | lgd | esample "you are a new message" |
| 02:10.53 | lgd | ?? |
| 02:10.59 | bouh | jhong: I do no what to do |
| 02:11.06 | lgd | like telephon |
| 02:11.23 | vladuz976 | liable: but only when i am not here? when i sit on the computer for hours it never happens, not once. but everytime i leave my place i come back and it's off |
| 02:11.24 | jhong | bouh, you do? |
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| 02:11.40 | jhong | bouh, or do not know? |
| 02:11.41 | liable | vladuz976: everytime? |
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| 02:11.57 | bouh | jhong: I also have a flashdrive that mount automatically |
| 02:12.17 | vladuz976 | liable: everytime i leave it on, usually i turne it off. but when i leave it on, it's still off when i come back |
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| 02:12.29 | Guerin | amphi: doesn't look so |
| 02:12.30 | A3K | I switched to gnome so my jumpdrive would work |
| 02:12.31 | bouh | jhong: prior to udev/hotplug, I had to had "vfat" in /etc/module |
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| 02:12.50 | Guerin | amphi: gnome has no bearing on whether any piece of hardware will work or not |
| 02:12.59 | dclarke | hello all : can I ask a question about a fresh install? My kernel panics at first boot |
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| 02:13.04 | Guerin | A3K: |
| 02:13.05 | bouh | but now it is detected in the new script |
| 02:13.08 | Guerin | amphi: sorry |
| 02:13.09 | liable | vladuz976: unusual. nfc sorry, but it looks like its shutting down uncleanly if theres nothing in the log. |
| 02:13.15 | A3K | Gnome automounts |
| 02:13.21 | antgel_ | dclarke: wow. so it's a stock kernel? |
| 02:13.22 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: just ask; you'll need to give us the exactly panic message that you're getting. |
| 02:13.22 | Guerin | A3K: that's not working |
| 02:13.24 | vladuz976 | liable: ok thanks |
| 02:13.33 | jhong | bouh, mine is ext3, which is supported natively! |
| 02:13.33 | A3K | whats not working?> |
| 02:13.42 | dclarke | antgel_ : thank you .. yes .. frsh install |
| 02:13.53 | dclarke | I have a complete boot log |
| 02:13.57 | antgel_ | dclarke: 2.4 or 2.6? sata drives? |
| 02:14.00 | bouh | jhong: yes I remeber that, that's what troubles me ... |
| 02:14.02 | A3K | I plug my cruzer drive in and I get an icon on the desktop. |
| 02:14.10 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: if you've got the complete log, use the paster bot to show it to us. |
| 02:14.21 | dclarke | okay .. |
| 02:14.26 | A3K | Gnome is also nice enough to place a cd on the desktop when I put a cd in the drive. |
| 02:14.32 | dclarke | I'll go get www.pastebin.com |
| 02:15.02 | Guerin | A3K: my point being the drive would work without gnome |
| 02:15.05 | dclarke | re the kernel .. |
| 02:15.07 | dclarke | it says ... |
| 02:15.11 | bouh | jhong: try to unload your module related to your drive |
| 02:15.13 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 02:15.15 | dclarke | Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 |
| 02:15.20 | Guerin | dclarke: stop |
| 02:15.28 | A3K | Guerin: It would work if I jump through a bunch of hoops to make it work. |
| 02:15.35 | dclarke | I downloaded the ISO for a network install today .. the thing says .. |
| 02:15.36 | A3K | I tried the normal stuff. |
| 02:15.39 | bouh | jhong: by reloading them you should be able to identify the new one are needed for the drive to work |
| 02:15.41 | dclarke | okay |
| 02:15.47 | A3K | but for some reason it would not mount |
| 02:15.53 | Guerin | A3K: mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/storage; isn't hoops |
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| 02:15.57 | dclarke | Guerin : yes ? |
| 02:15.58 | A3K | I switched to gnome and presto |
| 02:16.34 | A3K | Guerin: Will not work with a windows-centric cruzer drive. Lots of discussion on the web about them. |
| 02:16.49 | jhong | bouh, i have no problem to mount it at all after the system is up, it just doesn't mount at startup |
| 02:17.01 | bouh | just I understand |
| 02:17.02 | A3K | but with gnome it -just- -works- |
| 02:17.06 | dondelelcaro | A3K: sure it will. Hardware support like that is done through the kernel; mount knows what to do with them. |
| 02:17.06 | antgel_ | A3K: is gnome not just wrapping pmount? |
| 02:17.25 | Guerin | A3K: gnome does NOT provide any kernelspace magic to make hardware work. It contains userspace stuff to make things *automatic* |
| 02:17.33 | bouh | I just expect that the module are not loaded prior to the reading of the fstab, if possible ... |
| 02:17.40 | Guerin | A3K: if it works in gnome it absolutely will work without it |
| 02:17.49 | Guerin | A3K: i *own* a sandisk cruzer, and it works |
| 02:17.50 | A3K | and the userspace stuff it contains works without tinkering |
| 02:18.01 | A3K | is yours a cruzer mini? |
| 02:18.03 | dclarke | hello ? |
| 02:18.04 | Guerin | yes |
| 02:18.08 | dclarke | here is the log : http://pastebin.com/447886 |
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| 02:18.11 | Guerin | and it works PERFECTLY |
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| 02:18.26 | jhong | bouh, i thought that too |
| 02:18.30 | lgd | what is arrical? |
| 02:18.31 | A3K | interesting. many others have had trouble with them. |
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| 02:18.42 | lgd | arrical is like reception? |
| 02:18.46 | Guerin | A3K: no reason they should have - it's just a usb mass storage device |
| 02:19.10 | dclarke | hello ? |
| 02:19.16 | dclarke | total noobie here to Linux |
| 02:19.17 | lgd | dclarke: hi |
| 02:19.19 | antgel_ | dclarke: ah. when it comes to non-i386, i have no clue. sorry |
| 02:19.36 | dclarke | hmm .. it seemed like a really cheap 4-processor box |
| 02:19.46 | dclarke | and the debian install worked flawlessly |
| 02:19.48 | A3K | I tried mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/storage or usb1 or whatever and it didn't work. |
| 02:19.57 | Guerin | !didn't work |
| 02:19.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 02:20.05 | antgel_ | !tell A3K about pmount |
| 02:20.22 | dclarke | dpkg : that is funny as hell ! |
| 02:20.23 | dpkg | I think you lost me on that one, dclarke |
| 02:20.35 | bouh | jhong: do you have sg loaded when you mount your external drive ? |
| 02:20.50 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: right, just looks like you've specified the wrong root option to SILO; whatever 08:22 is doesn't contain the root filesystem. |
| 02:20.58 | bouh | If that's the case may be you can add this one also in your /etc/module |
| 02:21.01 | jhong | bouh, no |
| 02:21.02 | yzrider088 | does UPS ship on sundays? |
| 02:21.06 | jhong | bouh, sorry, what is sg? |
| 02:21.07 | dclarke | yeah .. its what a pile of people told me .. if I try to use "open" software ( Linux ) then it will not be open or work at all once I stp away from an Intel box |
| 02:21.09 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: unfortunatly, I'm not familiar enough with sparc hardware to tell you exactly what the problem is. |
| 02:21.28 | dclarke | I'm lost here |
| 02:21.34 | dclarke | sorry .. frustrated |
| 02:21.43 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: nah, linux actually works just fine; the kernel is booting, and it's telling you a specific error message. |
| 02:21.45 | dclarke | is there a boot option that I can specify ? |
| 02:21.51 | dclarke | oh ? |
| 02:21.53 | dclarke | oh .. |
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| 02:21.55 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: you haven't specified root=/dev/sda1 or whatever, appropriately. |
| 02:21.57 | A3K | well... I was not really hung up on kde. When I switched to gnome, it worked, as did several other things that were problematic, so I stuck with gnome. |
| 02:22.08 | dclarke | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:22 |
| 02:22.12 | dclarke | ah haaa ... |
| 02:22.14 | dclarke | I see .. |
| 02:22.22 | dclarke | perhaps I need to boot differetnly |
| 02:22.26 | dclarke | hmmm .. |
| 02:22.44 | jhong | bouh, did you mean sd_mod? |
| 02:22.46 | mathias64 | dclarke: cramfs: wrong magic means that the kernel read the beginningof a filesystem and doesn't beleive that it is a filesystem. proabably the kernel isn't pointed at the rigth place. |
| 02:22.51 | bouh | yes |
| 02:22.56 | bouh | sd_mod |
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| 02:23.12 | dclarke | can I boot a CDROM again and then get a prompt and then fix this ? |
| 02:23.14 | jhong | bouh, i found that sd_mod is loaded by the /etc/init.d/hotplug script |
| 02:23.15 | yzrider088 | does UPS ship on sundays? |
| 02:23.19 | dclarke | I have the install CD |
| 02:23.19 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: yes. |
| 02:23.26 | dclarke | okay .. cool |
| 02:23.31 | dclarke | I'll grab the CDROM |
| 02:23.34 | mathias64 | dclarke: it looks like an initrd problem to me. cramfs is a minimal filesystem used for initrds |
| 02:23.37 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: just boot off the install cd, drop to a console, mount up the target device, and reinstall silo or whatever needs to be odne. |
| 02:23.45 | jhong | bouh, seems that i should add sd_mod to /etc/modules |
| 02:23.46 | A3K | It was more agreeable for me to switch than to fiddle with it. After wrestling with my video and building the kernel module for my wireless card, I was happy to have some thing -just work- |
| 02:23.48 | dclarke | so when .. the SILO prompt thing comes up .. I type "help" or something |
| 02:23.56 | azeem | yzrider088: this question is not Debian specific, so please do not repeat it. If nobody answers, though luck |
| 02:23.59 | bouh | jhong: you can try |
| 02:24.19 | mathias64 | :( Nobody ships on sunday. |
| 02:24.21 | dondelelcaro | yzrider088: call up their 1-800 number if you want to know. |
| 02:24.24 | dclarke | dondelelcaro, cool .. let me try to boot the CDROM |
| 02:24.28 | dondelelcaro | mathias64: USPS does, actually... |
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| 02:24.42 | dclarke | is there a boot option ? like ... boot -s or boot -sv ? |
| 02:24.51 | dclarke | single user mode .. or whatever |
| 02:24.57 | mathias64 | dondelelcaro: they don't deliver. Everybody _ships_ on Sunday, even FedEx. |
| 02:25.02 | dclarke | I only have a terminal console on this .. |
| 02:25.24 | dondelelcaro | mathias64: they deliver too, surprisingly. [although, obviously not all types of shipments] |
| 02:25.33 | Guerin | mathias64: which is incredibly stupid, since it's the day you can guarantee most people will be home |
| 02:25.37 | tictac | mathias64: depends. in certain instances, the US Postal Service does not ship on Sunday. |
| 02:25.55 | Guerin | s/ie/ei/ |
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| 02:26.08 | antgel_ | dpkg: pmount is an application to make it easier to (un)mount removable media such as usb flash memory sticks. e.g. as normal user, pmount /dev/sda1 mounts it at /media/sda1. no superuser. no need to create a mount point. nb you'll need to be in the plugdev group (but you'll know that from /usr/share/doc/pmount). |
| 02:26.08 | dpkg | okay, antgel_ |
| 02:26.18 | yzrider088 | so i cant go down to their central office and pick up my package tomorrow eh? |
| 02:26.23 | dclarke | <#0> ok boot cdrom |
| 02:26.26 | dclarke | Boot device: /iommu/sbus/espdma@f,400000/esp@f,800000/sd@6,0:d File and args: |
| 02:26.27 | dclarke | SILO Version 1.4.9 |
| 02:26.29 | dclarke | \ |
| 02:26.30 | dclarke | uh ohh... |
| 02:26.31 | Bogaurd | Can anyone tell me why this proftpd config doesnt work? http://pastebin.com/447890 |
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| 02:26.36 | tictac | yzrider088: no. most places aren't open on Sunday. |
| 02:26.37 | Guerin | dclarke: please DO NOT paste |
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| 02:26.41 | dclarke | how do I get a prompt ? |
| 02:26.43 | yzrider088 | that sucks |
| 02:26.43 | tictac | err correct. |
| 02:26.44 | dondelelcaro | mathias64: http://www.usps.com/shipping/expressmail.htm FE. |
| 02:26.45 | mathias64 | wow. from usps.gov: |
| 02:26.46 | dclarke | oh ? |
| 02:26.50 | dclarke | why not ? |
| 02:26.53 | Guerin | !paster dclarke |
| 02:26.54 | dpkg | dclarke: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 02:26.58 | antgel_ | dclarke: /topic |
| 02:27.02 | Guerin | dclarke: the channel is busy enough as it is |
| 02:27.02 | mathias64 | yeah, i got it: Delivery to most destinations is available 365 days a year, with no extra charge for Saturday, Sunday, and holiday delivery |
| 02:27.05 | dclarke | oh .. |
| 02:27.06 | dclarke | sorry |
| 02:27.33 | antgel_ | dclarke: did you read the install guide for sparc? and what did you pay for a quad-processor box? |
| 02:27.44 | yzrider088 | too bad that wasnt UPS mathias64 :D |
| 02:27.59 | dclarke | yes yes and $500 |
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| 02:28.30 | mathias64 | :( that is the second time xchat has crashe dthis evening |
| 02:28.38 | dondelelcaro | mathias64: irssi... |
| 02:28.55 | dondelelcaro | Irssi uptime: 50d 2h 10m 13s... |
| 02:29.25 | dclarke | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1213 |
| 02:29.51 | antgel_ | dclarke: that's value |
| 02:29.52 | dclarke | oh .. and I follow the directions at : http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/index.html.en |
| 02:30.13 | dclarke | well .. it has .. four SCSI controllers |
| 02:30.18 | mathias64 | dondelelcarlo: hmm, aptitude says ``No candidate version found for irssi'' |
| 02:30.29 | dclarke | and .. I think 7 ethernet |
| 02:30.50 | mathias64 | irssi-snapshot? |
| 02:30.55 | liable | mathias64: irssi-text |
| 02:30.59 | Yarou | IRSSI |
| 02:31.02 | mathias64 | thanks |
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| 02:31.16 | Bogaurd | Can anyone tell me why this proftpd config doesnt work? http://pastebin.com/447890 |
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| 02:31.38 | yzrider088 | because it doesnt |
| 02:31.59 | bouh | I am looking for a chan about linux on laptop, does anyone knows ? |
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| 02:32.19 | Firestarter | how can I find out what app is bound to port 25? |
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| 02:32.25 | Yarou | netsplit |
| 02:32.26 | yuen | hi |
| 02:32.36 | TriKster-Abacus | ouch |
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| 02:33.16 | js_ | what does it mean that something is slashdotted? |
| 02:33.18 | dclarke | the bloody thing is downloading a pile of files again |
| 02:33.22 | dclarke | geez .. |
| 02:33.48 | mathias64 | Firestarter: lsof ? |
| 02:33.49 | dclarke | all I wanted was to boot and then get started with Linux From Scratch |
| 02:34.12 | azeem | dclarke: can you change to a console with alt+f2 or so? |
| 02:34.20 | dclarke | er .. |
| 02:34.24 | dclarke | let me try |
| 02:34.27 | Coweater | js_: slashdot.com, sites it links to tend to go down, slashdotted |
| 02:34.29 | yuen | somebodody can help me with a ati radeon in a toshiba satelite a70,I've been searching for about a week with no sucess |
| 02:34.33 | Guerin | js_: it means it's been feastured on slashdot.org, and the resulting hundreds of thousands of hits have caused the site to slow down or go down |
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| 02:34.46 | dclarke | no .. |
| 02:34.52 | dclarke | I get noise on the console : ^[^[[12~ |
| 02:35.06 | js_ | oh |
| 02:35.07 | js_ | thanks |
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| 02:35.20 | dclarke | nows it "Detecting network hardware ??" |
| 02:35.28 | dclarke | Detecting hardware, please wait... |
| 02:35.37 | azeem | dclarke: did you start the expert install? |
| 02:35.47 | dclarke | I don't know |
| 02:35.49 | lgd | by |
| 02:35.54 | lgd | good night |
| 02:35.57 | dclarke | all I did was insert the CDROM and |
| 02:36.00 | azeem | dclarke: well, if you just restarted the installation, it will do that |
| 02:36.02 | dclarke | then type boot CDROM |
| 02:36.06 | azeem | dclarke: so I don't see why you complain? |
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| 02:36.27 | dclarke | because .. I have already done the entire install |
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| 02:36.36 | azeem | dclarke: how should the system know? |
| 02:36.42 | dclarke | the system panics at first boot |
| 02:36.46 | azeem | dclarke: computers do not read minds yet |
| 02:36.47 | dclarke | what ? |
| 02:36.48 | Lilldude10 | does any one know hopw to wireless dsl |
| 02:36.57 | vinay | hmmmm... im tryign to do software raid on etch.. but raidtools2 is a no go? |
| 02:37.00 | dclarke | well they should at least boot after an install |
| 02:37.04 | Coweater | yuen: what about it? |
| 02:37.08 | bouh | wireless |
| 02:37.09 | bouh | ? |
| 02:37.13 | azeem | dclarke: you booted the installation CD. Why do you think it would not install the second time when it did for the first? |
| 02:37.16 | bouh | I have a problem with that too |
| 02:37.35 | amphi | bouh: what wifi card? |
| 02:37.36 | dclarke | because I asked earlier .. can I boot with the install CDROM and get a prompt |
| 02:37.40 | dclarke | someone said YES |
| 02:37.46 | dclarke | okay .. so .. here I am |
| 02:37.48 | azeem | dclarke: you can, but it needs special attention |
| 02:37.53 | vinay | aah, n/m.. use mdadm ! |
| 02:37.55 | mathias64 | dclarke: the dmesg I saw looked like the boot loader wasn't set up right. try reading up on that, or playing with the settings. it looks like an initrd problem to me. |
| 02:37.58 | dclarke | booting the bloody install CDROM again like a idiot |
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| 02:38.27 | bouh | ipw2200 |
| 02:38.28 | liable | !hi |
| 02:38.28 | amphi | bouh: works well here, I'm using it now - what's the problem? |
| 02:38.55 | dclarke | oh .. I agree its a boot problem of some sort |
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| 02:38.55 | dclarke | has to be |
| 02:38.55 | bouh | I think I am gonna explode, it's been three days I am wasting my time on it |
| 02:38.56 | bouh | well |
| 02:38.56 | bouh | I actually does work |
| 02:38.59 | bouh | for unencrypted network |
| 02:39.00 | dclarke | bouh : you fill me with fear for my future with this "debian" thing |
| 02:39.09 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 02:39.10 | azeem | dclarke: you are running on highly uncommon hardware |
| 02:39.21 | bouh | that's why I am able to talk to you .. |
| 02:39.21 | yuen | Coweater, i was able to put the fglrx module to work but when i run fgl_glxgears it tells me "X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
| 02:39.22 | yuen | " |
| 02:39.23 | dclarke | its dirt common |
| 02:39.33 | azeem | dclarke: what was it again? |
| 02:39.38 | cddesjar | dclarke: well debian works great for me ;) |
| 02:39.39 | amphi | bouh: what version of the driver are you using? |
| 02:39.41 | mathias64 | and installing for the first time? using the install cd is a once-per-machine event. |
| 02:39.42 | dclarke | a Sun Sparc server |
| 02:39.44 | bouh | but on encrypted networks |
| 02:39.56 | dclarke | okay .. |
| 02:40.05 | bouh | don't fear dclark: I might have missed something in the config |
| 02:40.07 | bouh | :) |
| 02:40.15 | dclarke | I can figure this out |
| 02:40.20 | bouh | yes for encrypted network, I can't connect |
| 02:40.22 | amphi | bouh: what errors do you get? firmware restarts? |
| 02:40.22 | dclarke | it looks to be a very nice installer |
| 02:40.29 | dclarke | I have the window that says "Debian installer main menu" |
| 02:40.31 | bouh | no I have no error |
| 02:40.37 | bouh | all my modules are loaded |
| 02:40.50 | azeem | dclarke: try to get a console |
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| 02:40.56 | bouh | ieee80211 41064 1 ipw2200 |
| 02:40.57 | bouh | ieee80211_crypt 2948 4 ieee80211_crypt_ccmp,ieee80211_crypt_tkip,ieee80211_crypt_wep,ieee80211 |
| 02:40.58 | mathias64 | dclarke: alt-f2 is probably a console. |
| 02:40.59 | dclarke | ah haaa! |
| 02:41.01 | dclarke | Execute a shell |
| 02:41.01 | azeem | dclarke: and read the silo documentation for what to do there |
| 02:41.11 | bouh | and I can connect unencrypted network |
| 02:41.14 | dclarke | no no .. ALT-F2 does not work |
| 02:41.18 | mathias64 | dclarke: did you look at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/sparc/? |
| 02:41.21 | dclarke | this is a terminal |
| 02:41.22 | amphi | bouh: did you search the mailing list? |
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| 02:41.47 | amphi | bouh: it's possible you need a newer version of wpa_supplicant (guess) |
| 02:41.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: they point out you may need to specify a root= parameter when you boot. |
| 02:41.58 | dclarke | BusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20040623-1) Built-in shell (ash) |
| 02:42.02 | dclarke | okay .. |
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| 02:42.25 | bouh | yes some people had the problem with kernel 2.4.16 |
| 02:42.30 | bouh | like I have |
| 02:42.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: if you want to do that you need to mount your installed root partiation and chroot there before you will be able to run anything useful |
| 02:42.41 | bouh | do you have this one too |
| 02:42.43 | bouh | ? |
| 02:42.43 | amphi | bouh: you're on 2.4? sorry, i assumed 2.6 |
| 02:42.55 | bouh | yes 2.4.16 |
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| 02:43.00 | dclarke | darn .. I am reading "7.2. Debian Post-Boot (Base) Configuration" on the manual |
| 02:43.11 | dclarke | but there is no mention of boot param |
| 02:43.14 | dclarke | yet |
| 02:43.27 | mathias64 | dclarke: read 7,1 |
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| 02:43.34 | bouh | I have ipw2200 1.08 |
| 02:43.37 | Guerin | why 2.4.16? |
| 02:43.43 | bouh | with ieee80211 |
| 02:43.47 | dclarke | 7.1. The Moment of Truth |
| 02:43.47 | bouh | 1.1.6 |
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| 02:43.49 | dclarke | oh .. |
| 02:43.51 | Guerin | that hasn't *ever* been a debian kernel |
| 02:43.55 | mathias64 | If you are booting directly into Debian, and the system doesn't start up .... |
| 02:44.02 | dclarke | weird |
| 02:44.09 | bouh | it's now linux-source |
| 02:44.21 | bouh | no more "kernel-source" < guerin |
| 02:44.29 | azeem | bouh: we know |
| 02:44.32 | dclarke | wow ! Kernel panic: Aiee, killing interrupt handler! |
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| 02:44.34 | Guerin | bouh: nor did I say there was |
| 02:44.46 | dclarke | I think I'll hit the power switch |
| 02:44.49 | bouh | sorry I misunderstood |
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| 02:45.22 | Guerin | dclarke: quick! save the interrupt handler from a fate worse than ... well, equal to death! |
| 02:45.36 | bouh | amphi: wpa_supplicant |
| 02:45.39 | dclarke | too late .. I powered off |
| 02:46.05 | bouh | amphi: I read some lines about it .. I thought it was only needed for some Wpa encryption |
| 02:46.08 | dclarke | powered up |
| 02:46.10 | dclarke | Power On Self Test (POST) is running .... |
| 02:46.12 | antistat | anyone: I recently installed Etch and I can't install KDE due to unmet dependencies. How can I work around this? |
| 02:46.25 | mathias64 | dclarke: from 6.3.4.3: If you plan to manually configure your bootloader, you should check the name of the installed kernel in /target/boot. You should also check that directory for the presence of an initrd; if one is present, you will probably have to instruct your bootloader to use it. The error you posted looked like a lost initrd |
| 02:46.29 | Guerin | antistat: don't install kde -> solved |
| 02:46.44 | antistat | Guerin : I expected you. |
| 02:46.52 | Guerin | antistat: you can install kde-core |
| 02:46.52 | bouh | the encrypted network I am trying to join is an open encrypt? |
| 02:46.52 | antistat | :-) |
| 02:46.59 | Guerin | or kdebase, i forget the name |
| 02:47.00 | dclarke | mathias64 : firsty .. I thank you for your help |
| 02:47.04 | jdrake | Does anyone know why xedit sometimes claims that when you press save that there is no changes to be saved? Changes were definitely made. |
| 02:47.11 | bouh | do you have a wpa_supplicant yourself ? |
| 02:47.26 | dclarke | mathias64 : but .. how can I do these things or even know these things if I can not boot for the first time ? |
| 02:47.28 | antistat | Guerin - I'll give that a shot. THanks |
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| 02:47.57 | dclarke | mathias64 : I will try to boot with root=/dev/sdc1 |
| 02:47.58 | azeem | dclarke: that text assumes you have "executed a shell" and mounted your partition at /target |
| 02:48.03 | dclarke | I think that is right |
| 02:48.05 | renga | yuen, tonx? |
| 02:48.17 | dclarke | azeem : impossible |
| 02:48.23 | dclarke | azeem : I installed an OS |
| 02:48.23 | bouh | AHah sorry Guerin: now I understand ... I type 2.4.16, instead of 2.6.14 |
| 02:48.23 | bouh | lol |
| 02:48.30 | dclarke | azeem : then rebooted |
| 02:48.36 | bouh | that is indeed confusing :) |
| 02:48.44 | cddesjar | antistat: did you read that dpkg message about kde3.4 |
| 02:48.49 | azeem | dclarke: and? |
| 02:48.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: That boot line seems good. I sympathize that it's a pain when an initrd doesn't work. One thing you can try to do is to go to the prompt from the install cd, manually mount the real root partition, chroot there, edit the silo file, and rerun silo. |
| 02:48.58 | yuen | renga, nada |
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| 02:49.27 | antistat | cddesjar - No. How do I see it? |
| 02:49.36 | cddesjar | !tell antistat about kde3.4 |
| 02:49.42 | dclarke | mathiiias64 : success I think |
| 02:49.43 | cddesjar | you would /msg dpkg kde.34 |
| 02:49.45 | cddesjar | oops |
| 02:49.47 | dclarke | <#0> ok boot /iommu@f,e0000000/sbus@f,e0001000/dma@1,81000/esp@1,80000/sd@5,0:a root=/dev/sdc1 |
| 02:49.51 | cddesjar | .../msg dpkg kde3.4 |
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| 02:49.59 | dclarke | that seems to bring up boot: |
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| 02:50.05 | amphi | bouh: ah ;) 2.6.14.2 broke acpi for me, FWIW |
| 02:50.06 | bouh | amphi: do you have a wpa_supplicant? what is this soft used for ? |
| 02:50.07 | cddesjar | antistat: that's why you can't just install kde3.4 normally |
| 02:50.33 | antistat | cddesjar : I figured it was something like that. |
| 02:50.34 | mathias64 | dclarke: let us know if it works. if it does work, you'll still have to reconfigure and rerun silo to make it work in the future |
| 02:50.57 | bouh | amphi: arf, my acpi dsdt is broken for me (acer travelmate 4000), so acpi never fully worked for me :) |
| 02:51.08 | dclarke | mathias64 : I think I am close to it working |
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| 02:51.19 | dclarke | mathias64 : SILO is at least talking to me |
| 02:51.23 | bouh | I miss the damn battery gauge |
| 02:51.26 | cddesjar | antistat: yeah...no biggie ;) |
| 02:52.18 | amphi | bouh: I got intel's compiler thing, decompiled mine, and compiled it again, and it compiled without error, so I don't think it's that - and it works fine with 2.6.11.12; with 14 I get 'reentrancy limit exceeded' on some bat0 function |
| 02:52.21 | dclarke | mathias64 : http://pastebin.com/447902 |
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| 02:53.17 | mathias64 | dclarke: you have to give it the name of the kernel, then the root= line. |
| 02:53.27 | dclarke | oh .. |
| 02:53.29 | mathias64 | example: : linux root=/dev/sdc1 |
| 02:53.31 | bouh | amphi: oh, may be I should try, but last time I tried to apply the acpi patch againt a debian patched kernel source, I got errors and it messed up the source |
| 02:53.34 | dclarke | I have no idea what the kernel is called |
| 02:53.38 | mathias64 | right. |
| 02:53.51 | mathias64 | try `vmlinuz' |
| 02:53.53 | bouh | so I never manage to go as far as you did :) |
| 02:53.56 | dclarke | looks like I need to boot the insatll CDROM .. get to a prompt .. mount the root |
| 02:53.56 | amphi | bouh: or try and fix your dsdt |
| 02:54.20 | bouh | apparently my problems comes from the fact that I have a smart battery |
| 02:54.20 | dclarke | Your imagename `vmlinuz' and arguments `' have either wrong syntax, ... |
| 02:54.45 | liable | bouh: check the bts wrt wpasupp |
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| 02:54.50 | mathias64 | what does silo say when you jsut type `help' |
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| 02:55.01 | bouh | I indeed have the Embedded controller in '/proc/acpi/embedded_controller/EC0' |
| 02:55.07 | dclarke | see http://pastebin.com/447902 |
| 02:55.13 | dclarke | see http://pastebin.com/447902 at line 10 |
| 02:55.13 | bouh | but I dunno how to use that information |
| 02:56.19 | bouh | liable: 'bts wrt wpasupp' I must admit, my english is not good enough yet to understand that ;) |
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| 02:56.41 | bouh | liable: can you give me more details ? |
| 02:56.47 | mathias64 | dclarke: try `ls /boot' first. |
| 02:56.51 | liable | bouh: check the bug tracking system with regard too... |
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| 02:57.13 | dclarke | oops |
| 02:57.22 | bouh | oh ok thank |
| 02:57.24 | dclarke | I typed a tilde and enter |
| 02:57.34 | dclarke | so .. kernel panic again |
| 02:57.51 | mathias64 | right. can you get an ls of the /boot directory? |
| 02:57.57 | dclarke | system is resetting |
| 02:58.07 | bouh | I ll try using wpa_supplicant |
| 02:58.09 | dclarke | Initializing Memory / |
| 02:58.15 | mathias64 | Try 'ls /boot' or 'ls (0,5,0)/boot' |
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| 02:58.17 | dclarke | system is rebooting |
| 02:58.34 | bouh | for the acpi... I ll need to investigate a bit more I guess :) |
| 02:58.35 | dclarke | okay .. let me try that .. :-) |
| 02:59.10 | dclarke | curious the system says I have 40GB of RAM |
| 02:59.13 | dclarke | not likely |
| 02:59.24 | mathias64 | I agree |
| 02:59.26 | dclarke | wow |
| 02:59.31 | dclarke | ls /boot works |
| 02:59.40 | dclarke | it does somethign and reports a pile of stuff |
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| 03:00.04 | mathias64 | Please paste the output if you can, or let me know if there is (1) a vmlinuz and (2) an initrd |
| 03:00.30 | dclarke | I see both : http://pastebin.com/447909 |
| 03:01.02 | dclarke | must be vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp ?? |
| 03:01.07 | azeem | try cat /silo.conf, perhaps |
| 03:01.15 | azeem | eh, /boot/silo.conf |
| 03:01.17 | mathias64 | dclarke. OK. I would try: boot: vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc1 initrd=initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
| 03:01.36 | mathias64 | If it really is /dev.sdc1 and not /dev/sda1 |
| 03:01.38 | dclarke | I will copy that verbatim |
| 03:01.56 | dclarke | definately on controller 3 |
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| 03:01.56 | mathias64 | dclarke: well, copy it without any typos I may have put in |
| 03:02.10 | mathias64 | dclarke: ok, I was confused by the dmesg output |
| 03:02.51 | dclarke | no joy |
| 03:02.57 | dclarke | let me post what I see here |
| 03:03.01 | mathias64 | sure. |
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| 03:03.28 | efaistos | re |
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| 03:03.38 | dclarke | this follows my last paste : http://pastebin.com/447913 |
| 03:03.40 | mathias64 | What I am looking for is: did it find a kernel, did the kernel find the root partition, did the kernel load the initrd |
| 03:04.20 | dclarke | looks like none of those |
| 03:04.30 | dclarke | I may need to get silo.cong out in the open |
| 03:04.30 | mathias64 | I can't see it on pastebin |
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| 03:04.38 | mathias64 | you should be able to cat /boot/silo.conf |
| 03:04.39 | dclarke | I may need to get silo.conf out in the open |
| 03:04.59 | dclarke | wow .. that works |
| 03:05.10 | dclarke | Linux is cool in comparison to Solaris so far |
| 03:05.15 | dclarke | let me paste that |
| 03:05.26 | azeem | silo isn't Linux ;) |
| 03:05.28 | mathias64 | I think you can cat files with the Sun OpenBoot BIOS as well |
| 03:05.33 | TriKster-Abacus | the best for gaming |
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| 03:05.38 | dclarke | with Forth |
| 03:06.02 | dclarke | new paste coming |
| 03:06.06 | mathias64 | dclarke: I never got the boot with the long command line |
| 03:06.12 | mathias64 | on pastebin.com |
| 03:06.22 | azeem | 03:58 < dclarke> this follows my last paste : http://pastebin.com/447913 |
| 03:06.32 | azeem | line 15 |
| 03:06.47 | dclarke | I will paste everything on my term from power up |
| 03:06.49 | sifi | How can I echo foo for each line in a file? |
| 03:06.51 | mathias64 | ah shit. |
| 03:06.53 | azeem | it seems silo only looks for labels |
| 03:06.57 | Guerin | ok |
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| 03:07.03 | dclarke | http://pastebin.com/447915 |
| 03:07.11 | dclarke | that is everything from power up : http://pastebin.com/447915 |
| 03:07.26 | dclarke | mathias64 : you okay ? |
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| 03:07.30 | Guerin | about a year ago I used phpwiki and pmwiki, and didn't like either of them. What's changed in WikiLand in the past 12 months? What's better? |
| 03:07.44 | Guerin | I need simplicity, of maintenance and setup. |
| 03:07.44 | mathias64 | I got it. What does ls / say? Is there a vmlinuz and a initrd.img? |
| 03:07.54 | mathias64 | I got the last one (sorry ) |
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| 03:08.42 | mathias64 | Note that silo.conf thinks that the root is /dev/sdc2. I don't get that. |
| 03:08.58 | azeem | sdc1 might be the boot partition |
| 03:09.13 | dclarke | does that mean SCSI Disk on Controller 2 ? |
| 03:09.22 | azeem | dclarke: can you check ls / first? |
| 03:09.26 | dclarke | here is up to date : http://pastebin.com/447916 |
| 03:09.40 | azeem | so |
| 03:10.16 | Lanix | is there a pkg for instaling lexmark printers ? |
| 03:10.16 | azeem | either /boot is a symlink to / |
| 03:10.16 | azeem | or ls foo doesn't work |
| 03:10.19 | dclarke | seems like the same stuff |
| 03:10.29 | mathias64 | No, note that there is no /usr under /boot. I bet there is a link /boot/boot -> b |
| 03:10.35 | dclarke | maybe I should hunt and peck at this with guesses ? |
| 03:10.36 | mathias64 | /boot/boot -> /boot |
| 03:11.01 | mathias64 | anyway, try: boot: /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/bot/initrd.img |
| 03:11.03 | dclarke | well .. during install there was a partition for / at 1.8 GB |
| 03:11.23 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 03:11.23 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am hoping that partition is /ev/sdc1 and that /boot is /dev/sdc2 |
| 03:11.46 | dclarke | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:01 |
| 03:11.54 | azeem | mathias64: I don't see a usr under / either |
| 03:12.08 | azeem | too bad BenC isn't around |
| 03:12.08 | dclarke | this is a minor mystery |
| 03:12.11 | mathias64 | dclarke: ok. That was with root=/dev/sdc1? |
| 03:12.33 | dclarke | precisely this : boot: /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sda1 initrd=/bot/initrd.img |
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| 03:12.47 | dclarke | it can not be sda |
| 03:12.55 | dclarke | that would be SCSI disk .. 0 ? |
| 03:13.00 | mathias64 | It's my damn typing. Try boot: /boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/sdc1 initrd=/boot/initrd.img |
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| 03:13.08 | dclarke | I have .. 2 internal |
| 03:13.13 | dclarke | six external |
| 03:13.16 | mathias64 | I keep thinking you are on sda. And bot was meant to be boot |
| 03:13.25 | dclarke | okay .. I need to get SILO back then |
| 03:13.29 | dclarke | one moment please |
| 03:13.54 | dclarke | the Sun boot PROM has a last command feature .. so I simply execure that |
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| 03:14.02 | dclarke | the Sun boot PROM has a last command feature .. so I simply execurt that |
| 03:14.04 | mathias64 | What we have to do it: point the first argument at the actual kernel file, the root at the real root, and the initrd at the real initrd. |
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| 03:14.18 | dclarke | ah .. three things |
| 03:14.25 | dclarke | boot: |
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| 03:14.32 | mathias64 | That's one of the reasons it's such a pain. |
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| 03:14.51 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:14.53 | mathias64 | The other reason is that your resources are limited if you can't even boot |
| 03:15.02 | dclarke | ha ha .. true |
| 03:15.07 | dclarke | at least I have coffee |
| 03:15.11 | dclarke | and patience |
| 03:15.15 | dclarke | :-) |
| 03:15.16 | mathias64 | That line looks good. We're trying sdc1 again. |
| 03:15.33 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 03:15.34 | mathias64 | patience is a virtue in this sort of thing. |
| 03:15.44 | dclarke | Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 |
| 03:15.46 | mathias64 | Uncompressing image is good, it means the kernel is around |
| 03:15.55 | dclarke | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:21 |
| 03:16.07 | mathias64 | Did you get the cramfs error again? |
| 03:16.09 | dclarke | spin_lock(f0204000) CPU#1 stuck at f0062c94, owner PC(f002b068):CPU(0) |
| 03:16.12 | dclarke | no joy |
| 03:16.18 | mathias64 | before the panic line |
| 03:16.23 | dclarke | cramfs: wrong magic |
| 03:16.25 | dclarke | yes |
| 03:16.36 | muhoo | my FF fonts are screwed up. i know my Xserver can show nice, crisp text in small font size. however, in firefox my fonts look like crap. http://www.restivo.org/misc/fontwhat.png . text renders great in gtk apps, in terminal shells, and in emacs. but in firefox they look like crapola. |
| 03:16.45 | mathias64 | Right. The ``cramfs'' is the file system of the initrd. So we don't have the right initrd. |
| 03:16.46 | dclarke | strange .. everything looks so good and then the root fs is not located |
| 03:16.56 | dclarke | hmmm |
| 03:17.00 | muhoo | i've obviously got something misconfigured. but what, i don't know. |
| 03:17.06 | mathias64 | The ``root fs'' at that point is the fs on the initrd. It will remount the real root fs later. |
| 03:17.14 | dclarke | perhaps it is on the /dev/sdc2 or /dev/sdc4 ? |
| 03:17.25 | dclarke | oh .. |
| 03:17.31 | dclarke | this is very unlike Solaris |
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| 03:18.02 | dclarke | hmmm .. one moment please .. I think that coffee will help immesnely |
| 03:18.09 | dclarke | I am driven to make the work |
| 03:18.20 | dclarke | and I feel that there is only a monor issue at play here |
| 03:18.26 | dclarke | because everything looks good |
| 03:19.05 | dclarke | system Resetting ... |
| 03:19.17 | mathias64 | I am looking at the pastes to try to work it out... |
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| 03:20.43 | dclarke | okay .. back at boot: |
| 03:20.53 | antgel_ | hmm. trying to get direct rendering on a radeon mobility. log shows (II) RADEON(0): Direct rendering enabled and (II) RADEON(0): [drm] Initialized kernel GART heap manager, 5111808. however glxinfo shows mesa is being used and direct rendering: no |
| 03:21.53 | mathias64 | I would boot into the install cd, go to the prompt, and figure out for sure where the root filesystem is by mounting it. |
| 03:22.11 | dclarke | we are at that point I guess :-\ |
| 03:22.23 | dclarke | okay .. I have the CD in the CDROM already |
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| 03:22.50 | antgel_ | am pondering xorg, however http://www.makarevitch.org/debian/kernel_2.6.html was doing it in xfree / woody *blush* |
| 03:22.53 | Punko | someone tell me what must i do to see the temps of the sensors of my pc ? |
| 03:23.41 | dclarke | sensor temps ? are their drivers for that ? |
| 03:24.02 | Punko | on the slack i`ve used lmsensors |
| 03:24.14 | mathias64 | Pumko: apt-get install lm-sensors |
| 03:24.14 | Punko | i`ve installed it now |
| 03:24.16 | Punko | but they wont work |
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| 03:25.06 | mathias64 | Punko: sensors-detect |
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| 03:25.44 | kuhwalllskee | what's the difference between nfs-user-server and nfs-kernel-server? |
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| 03:26.08 | dclarke | guess : one is in user land and the other qa kernel module ? |
| 03:26.13 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: whether they run in kernel mode or user mode? |
| 03:26.51 | dclarke | mathias64 : system is booting the install CDROM |
| 03:27.27 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, what's the real diff between them? performance permissions??? |
| 03:27.41 | CasaNova__ | I'm running debian testing and jsut tonigh I started getting random Xorg lockups.. Gnome desktop - lose keyboard and everything freezes - still have mouse but cant clikc - I can ssh into box (runnign BitchX from remote shell?? Top shows Xorg at 99.5% !!! |
| 03:27.56 | astro | CasaNova__: kill xorg |
| 03:28.06 | astro | CasaNova__: that happens with me using the nvidia drivers |
| 03:28.17 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: running in user mode is (at least hypothetically) safer. kernel mode is the older, and likely more reliable, option. I don't run nfs so I don't know about the performance |
| 03:28.31 | CasaNova__ | astro - Just 10 minutes ago I restarte gdm to get desktop bback - any troubleshooting ideas? |
| 03:28.32 | mathias64 | CasaNova__: also happens to me with nvidia drivers, so I swtiched to the free drivers. |
| 03:28.37 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, thanks. |
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| 03:28.41 | amphi | CasaNova__: or alt-sysrq-k at the xorg console perhaps |
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| 03:28.51 | CasaNova__ | maathias - never happened before tonight! |
| 03:29.00 | astro | mathias64: that's what i do most of the time (trying nvidia again atm)...they suck though |
| 03:29.44 | Punko | mathias64 it has some sensors detectet, pls tell me how to see the temps |
| 03:29.48 | kapps | Does anyone know if you can install debian with grub off an external usb hard drive? |
| 03:29.53 | CasaNova__ | Except when my previous video cards were dying - Oh sheesh I hope its not that though this was a big honking car! |
| 03:29.56 | CasaNova__ | card |
| 03:30.09 | Punko | is there e program ? (i`ve tried with gdesklets but it has a bug and uses 100% of my CPU) |
| 03:30.56 | CasaNova__ | I can't do any keyboard entries at all - it ignores my keyboard - I had to shell in and restart gdm.... |
| 03:31.04 | mathias64 | dclarke: when the install cd boots up, do you see some information about /dev/sda etc. being recognized? |
| 03:31.06 | cddesjar | hey i am trying to boot from my CDROM on a compaq presario 2550 yet i can't seem to figure out what button to push to make it boot off a cd. i've tried a bunch of the f keys already and i've googled the hell out of the subject |
| 03:31.08 | CasaNova__ | hmm woulod nvidia drivers lock up keybaord even from magic keys? |
| 03:31.16 | cddesjar | oops 5220 |
| 03:31.31 | kimchi | cddesjar, F1? |
| 03:31.33 | mathias64 | CasaNova__: it did for me. Only ssh would work. |
| 03:31.46 | dclarke | mathias64 : no .. I get a nice blue background screen terminal thing |
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| 03:31.58 | cddesjar | hmm...i've tried F1...the only F key that i think has any function is F10 which brings me into a setup prompt |
| 03:32.07 | dclarke | mathias64 : oh .. perhaps in the boot text .. |
| 03:32.15 | mathias64 | You can find out by running dmesg at the terminal |
| 03:32.17 | CasaNova__ | mathias64 o I honestly never got this before and I'm almost positive I use the debian drivers- how woudl I check? |
| 03:32.20 | kimchi | cddesjar, are you set to boot from cd? |
| 03:32.40 | kimchi | cddesjar, push TAB on boot maybe |
| 03:32.44 | cddesjar | kimchi: i believe so |
| 03:33.13 | mathias64 | CasaNova__: Look at the ``Driver'' line in /etc/X11/xorg.conf. If it says nv you have the free driver. |
| 03:33.17 | kimchi | cddesjar, also you may have burned a bad cd |
| 03:33.41 | kapps | it seems to start loading the kernel but it says that it can't recognize /dev/sda5 <thats the partition linux is on> |
| 03:33.42 | CasaNova__ | OK brb |
| 03:33.53 | cddesjar | kimchi: doubtful since i used that cd to install sarge on this laptop |
| 03:34.23 | dclarke | mathias64 : everything I see : http://pastebin.com/447932 |
| 03:34.39 | Garda | hey guys. where can i find a guide on iptables. a nice easy one. just need basic functionality |
| 03:35.07 | CasaNova__ | I'm actually happy the Xorg is at 99.9 % at least I have a not hardware reason for the lockup - hope it is just buggy software! |
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| 03:35.17 | positron| | whats the point in kernel compile mantra as i can use 'make bzImage' ? |
| 03:35.31 | positron| | dpkg: kp mantra |
| 03:35.31 | dpkg | The kernel compilation mantra is export MAKEFLAGS="CC=gcc-3.4 HOSTCC=gcc-3.4" && make-kpkg clean && make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot clean && make-kpkg --revision $(date +'%Y%m%d') --append-to-version=-$(hostname) --rootcmd fakeroot kernel_image modules_image |
| 03:35.44 | Docteh | wow |
| 03:35.45 | azeem | positron|: you will get a .deb you can install |
| 03:35.55 | EdLin | positron|: it does all of the configuring of the bootloader, and a deb. |
| 03:36.04 | mathias64 | dclarke: ok. I am interested in the line that says ``kernel command line''. |
| 03:36.05 | positron| | ok cool |
| 03:36.12 | mathias64 | Meanwhile, let's figure out where your real root partition is |
| 03:36.20 | dondelelcaro | not to mention the fact that it's trivial to remove the kernel once it's outdated. Not so if you just use make install. |
| 03:36.31 | quittt | dondelelcaro, hey |
| 03:36.33 | yuen | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 03:36.33 | yuen | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:36.35 | dclarke | mathias64 : I am game for that |
| 03:36.38 | quittt | dondelelcaro, do you know how I install skype? |
| 03:36.45 | quittt | !skype |
| 03:36.45 | dpkg | from memory, skype is a non-free (beer) voip application that is cross platform. See http://www.skype.com/, or based on proprietary, closed-source protocols |
| 03:36.45 | dclarke | mathias64 : I have the "ash" prompt here |
| 03:37.14 | quittt | it is pejorative |
| 03:37.20 | mathias64 | dclarke: type 'ls /' and see if there is a /target directory |
| 03:37.26 | CasaNova__ | quittt: I use skype - it has an installer I recall (could have been smoking crack at the moment thought) |
| 03:37.39 | quittt | CasaNova__, well |
| 03:37.40 | dclarke | mathias64 : did that .. there isn't |
| 03:37.43 | quittt | CasaNova__, are you on etch? |
| 03:37.52 | mathias64 | OK. Is there a /mnt directory? |
| 03:37.54 | mathias64 | If not make one |
| 03:38.15 | dclarke | ~ # mkdir mnt |
| 03:38.20 | dclarke | done |
| 03:38.21 | mathias64 | You are in ~ but you need to be in / |
| 03:38.33 | dclarke | oh ? |
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| 03:38.40 | CasaNova__ | quittt: Testing (is that etch?) |
| 03:38.42 | mathias64 | cd .. && ls |
| 03:38.44 | quittt | CasaNova__, yes |
| 03:38.45 | dclarke | I have not done anything at all oterh than ls and mkdir mnt |
| 03:38.51 | quittt | CasaNova__, didnt you have any problems? |
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| 03:38.54 | kapps | yuen: add this line to /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 03:38.55 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: Darn my Driver line is nvidia! |
| 03:39.13 | kapps | yuen |
| 03:39.13 | kapps | > > > Section "DRI" |
| 03:39.13 | kapps | > > > Mode 0666 |
| 03:39.13 | kapps | > > > EndSection |
| 03:39.13 | kapps | > > > |
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| 03:39.14 | dclarke | done |
| 03:39.14 | mathias64 | CasaNova__: that means the nonfree driver. Some people apparantly can use it, but I can't |
| 03:39.24 | dclarke | no target |
| 03:39.28 | dclarke | but there is a mnt |
| 03:39.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: cd /mnt |
| 03:39.41 | yuen | kapps, but i am using xorg, woulda that work? |
| 03:39.43 | mathias64 | see if there is a target there |
| 03:39.53 | dclarke | done |
| 03:39.54 | CasaNova__ | quittt: I don't recall any problems... I just grabbed the installer from skype and installed and setup my acct and added some dinero to my acct via paypal and my wife talks to mexico! |
| 03:39.57 | dclarke | nothing there |
| 03:40.00 | mathias64 | OK. cd / |
| 03:40.06 | dclarke | oh .. this is the same mnt that I created |
| 03:40.19 | dclarke | my propt says : /mnt # |
| 03:40.19 | mathias64 | I thought the one you made was /root/mnt |
| 03:40.21 | quittt | CasaNova__, hehehe that's great |
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| 03:40.27 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: I could have sworn I used the nvidia single line installer....I thought that used free debian driver... this locking up is new (tonight) |
| 03:40.38 | predius_ | dientes. |
| 03:40.39 | dclarke | pwd says that I am at /mnt |
| 03:40.42 | predius_ | eh, oop.s |
| 03:40.46 | predius_ | sorry guys :) |
| 03:40.47 | mathias64 | CasaNova__ : the point of the single line install is to get the nonfree driver. |
| 03:40.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: ok. cd / |
| 03:41.02 | dclarke | done |
| 03:41.02 | mathias64 | dclarke: try /mnt -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 03:41.04 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: ooops I assumed wrong' |
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| 03:41.43 | dclarke | or do you mean verbatim with the word "try" like in Java ? |
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| 03:41.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: sorry: mount -t ext2 /dev/sda1 /mnt |
| 03:42.02 | cddesjar | is there a way to boot from a cd once the grub menu loads |
| 03:42.04 | Thanatermesis | any person with a ATI card show me the info about lspci | grep VGA please ? |
| 03:42.04 | mathias64 | Prounouced the same but not spelled the same |
| 03:42.18 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: Any link or doc on switching to free driver (but if nonfree makes doom3 work better I'll ned to stay with it (unless I keep locking up of course)) |
| 03:42.19 | cddesjar | could i enter the command mode of grub and boot from my cd? |
| 03:42.29 | dclarke | mount: Mounting /dev/sda1 on /mnt failed: No such file or directory |
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| 03:42.37 | GregorR | do stupid emotes |
| 03:42.39 | predius_ | Thanatermesis: the card should identify itself. |
| 03:42.43 | GregorR | Hmm ... |
| 03:42.46 | mathias64 | CasaNova__ Just change nvidia back to nv, make sure that GLX is not commented out, then restart X |
| 03:42.47 | GregorR | or do stupid emotes |
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| 03:42.59 | GregorR | How did that trigger dpkg ... |
| 03:43.01 | Thanatermesis | predius_ i only need the info, im writing a script |
| 03:43.02 | mathias64 | dclarke: now try with /dev/sdc1 instead of /dev/sda1 |
| 03:43.03 | predius_ | back |
| 03:43.13 | dclarke | yup .. one moment please |
| 03:43.14 | predius_ | ah, dunno. |
| 03:43.28 | dclarke | mount: Mounting /dev/sdc1 on /mnt failed: No such file or directory |
| 03:43.30 | dclarke | yikes |
| 03:43.37 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: glx under modules? |
| 03:43.41 | mathias64 | dclarke: now try with /dev/sdc2 |
| 03:43.46 | predius_ | dclarke: udev? |
| 03:43.50 | EdLin | cddesjar: I don't think grub supports running an eltorito or isolinux cd. |
| 03:43.52 | dclarke | mount: Mounting /dev/sdc2 on /mnt failed: No such file or directory |
| 03:43.54 | mathias64 | CasaNova__: under ``Module'' |
| 03:44.05 | positron| | where is the GRUB's menu file? |
| 03:44.15 | predius_ | positron|: /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:44.15 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am starting to think tha the installer is loading some SCSI driver... |
| 03:44.16 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: Aye si I meant module :-) |
| 03:44.22 | positron| | predius_: thx |
| 03:44.32 | mathias64 | dclarke: Hmmm. |
| 03:44.39 | cddesjar | i wish that someone would have posted how they booted on a presario on the internet (though i realize how easy this should be) |
| 03:44.49 | dclarke | l ... ls /dev shows no sdfoo at all |
| 03:45.01 | mathias64 | dclarke: oh wow |
| 03:45.15 | dclarke | yeah .. very weird |
| 03:45.21 | CasaNova__ | mathias64: Thanks a lot I will keep an eye on the desktop now - something I just grabbed recently as an update must be contributing since this never happened til tonight.... |
| 03:45.24 | mathias64 | dclarke: is there a MAKEDEV in /dev? |
| 03:45.43 | liable | dclarke: with the installer i think you will find you need to do /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part0 (changing the 0's for different controllers, partitions, disks.) |
| 03:45.51 | dclarke | no .. but gee .. things are not all bad .. I have urandom for random numbers :-) |
| 03:46.01 | mathias64 | liable: thanks. |
| 03:46.08 | liable | NP |
| 03:46.22 | EdLin | dclarke: are you using a 2.6 or 2.4 kernel? |
| 03:46.27 | dclarke | yes .. ther eis a /dev/scsi |
| 03:46.37 | dclarke | host0 host1 |
| 03:46.41 | mathias64 | liable: can you translate those to (a,b,c) notation? I don't use SCSI very much myself... |
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| 03:46.44 | dclarke | under /dev/scsi |
| 03:46.48 | yuen | Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 03:46.48 | yuen | X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes) |
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| 03:47.00 | CasaNova__ | I almost hate t ask but I cant seem to get cdrecord to recognize any media under etch 2.6.12 kernel any troubleshooting tips? |
| 03:47.01 | SJr|Tecra | Question with the Nvidia drvers and X.ORG why do none of the openGL Screensavers work in fullscreen mode? |
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| 03:47.15 | dclarke | found it |
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| 03:47.20 | SJr|Tecra | Tux Racer does work |
| 03:47.20 | Yarou | hmmmhm |
| 03:47.37 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.48 | SJr|Tecra | I should say a LARGE percentage of screen savers don't work like 50% or more. |
| 03:47.52 | dclarke | disc part1 part2 part3 part4 |
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| 03:48.01 | dclarke | that looks correct .. four partitions |
| 03:48.19 | mathias64 | OK it's |
| 03:48.22 | dclarke | block devices .. yes .. very good |
| 03:48.29 | dclarke | major minor of 8 and 32 |
| 03:48.34 | liable | mathias64: i aint exactly which are which in regards to controllers, disks etc. the part is the partition no, i guess lun may be disk, target may be controller.. dunno |
| 03:48.48 | dclarke | I know SCSI |
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| 03:48.56 | mathias64 | dclarke: OK. try mounting the first one, then ls /mnt. We're looking for one that has /usr /etc and so on |
| 03:48.59 | dclarke | host is the host bus adapter |
| 03:49.07 | dclarke | yes yes .. |
| 03:49.14 | dclarke | I hope these are fstype ext2 |
| 03:49.24 | mathias64 | the silo docs say (controller, device, partition) |
| 03:49.46 | mathias64 | dclarke: they ought to mount with ext2, unless you went out of your way to make them xfs or something |
| 03:50.04 | dclarke | success |
| 03:50.10 | dclarke | mount -t ext2 /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target5/lun0/part1 /mnt |
| 03:50.14 | dclarke | that works fine |
| 03:50.22 | mathias64 | Good. WHat files are in /mnt now? |
| 03:50.32 | vinay | i use mdadm to create an array of "linear" discs.. the decisino of where a "write" should go should be trivial.. why is an mkfs.ext3 SO cpu intensive and SO slow?! |
| 03:50.34 | dclarke | one moment please .. pasteing |
| 03:50.38 | dclarke | :-) |
| 03:51.09 | mathias64 | Out of curiosity, how do you paste from that machine onto the internet? |
| 03:51.10 | positron| | predius_: can you tell me that what i put to the initrd in menu.lst when i want to add an option to boot from my own kernel? |
| 03:51.27 | EdLin | mathias64: /exec -o foo |
| 03:51.28 | lpb-oberon | lilo grub?! |
| 03:51.34 | positron| | grub |
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| 03:51.43 | mathias64 | EdLin: ?? |
| 03:51.47 | dclarke | its a Sun server .. so .. I have an XTerm running with a serial connection from my other server to the console of this server |
| 03:52.03 | mathias64 | dclarke: nice Sun hardware.... |
| 03:52.17 | dclarke | Solaris and SCSI and FC-AL etc etc .. I _know_ these things |
| 03:52.22 | gar- | nice |
| 03:52.22 | EdLin | mathias64: "/exec -o" in IRC will paste the output of whatever command you type after it into IRC. Use with caution, flooding is a way to get you booted |
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| 03:52.39 | mathias64 | EdLin: he's pasting from the console of a machine that won't boot. |
| 03:52.51 | dclarke | http://pastebin.com/447943 |
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| 03:53.15 | dclarke | mathias64 : Sun hardware gives a lot of functionality from the firmware |
| 03:53.30 | predius_ | positron|: use make-kpkg to compile and make a .deb |
| 03:53.33 | gar- | im installing debian now so i dont have notting to ask -) |
| 03:53.33 | dclarke | mathias64 : which you generally pay through the nose for :-) |
| 03:53.44 | mathias64 | dclarke: I know, it's just strange when you're used to cheap x86 hardware. |
| 03:53.47 | kuhwalllskee | I'm having a problem.. I ssh to my server from a terminal window.. it asks me for my password.. I put in my password and then it prints me the login banner for my server and returns me to a prompt from my local machine (I know this from uname). But when I type exit (on that local prompt it gave me) it logs me out of the server. I've tried different terminal programs, and when I telnet to it from a different machine (linux, and |
| 03:53.47 | kuhwalllskee | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.50 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: there's no /usr in /mnt right now, right? |
| 03:53.56 | kuhwalllskee | s/ telnet/ssh |
| 03:54.03 | positron| | how do i make an initrd.img ?? |
| 03:54.05 | dclarke | mathias64 : well .. I feel like an idiot .. |
| 03:54.24 | CasaNova__ | A more general question might be is anyone sucessfully burning CDs with cdrecord under etch with a 2.6 kernal to a usb burner? |
| 03:54.25 | mathias64 | dclarke: why? getting boot loaders set up is generally a painful process |
| 03:54.26 | predius_ | !tell positron| about kernel compile |
| 03:54.28 | dclarke | mathias64 : my x86 hardware is 7 years old but I have 4 way and 8 way Sun hardware all around me |
| 03:54.47 | CasaNova__ | I can't even get media recognized - always get bad disk/wrong disk errors... |
| 03:54.53 | dclarke | mathias64 : I know _nothing_ or less than nothing abut x86 |
| 03:54.54 | mathias64 | dclarke: it's a different world. Of course, 8way x86 hardware is a fantasy |
| 03:54.55 | gar- | sun freak |
| 03:55.06 | CasaNova__ | put same disk in win laptop anbd burns jsut fine....:-( |
| 03:55.10 | dclarke | sorry .. I'm an old Sun geek |
| 03:55.19 | positron| | i dont want to use make-kpkg |
| 03:55.25 | gar- | that explain everything |
| 03:55.27 | gar- | :P |
| 03:55.43 | mathias64 | I installed debian on an old sun5 a long time ago, and I had no idea what was happening. It was all luck. |
| 03:55.45 | dclarke | but I am working in the POWER and PowerPC worlds also .. and Debian rocks there everyone tells me |
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| 03:55.56 | gar- | im just getting into the world of linux and leaving unix for good -_- |
| 03:56.08 | mathias64 | dclarke: so anyway, there's no directory usr inside /mnt, right? |
| 03:56.21 | CasaNova__ | I also used debian when I had some spare Sun equip lying around form another project.... Tried to Quake 2 server built on it :-) |
| 03:56.27 | dclarke | mathias64 : anytime you want a login session to a serious Sun server just let me know .. you are helping me a lot |
| 03:56.39 | mathias64 | dclarke: it looks to me like /mnt is pointing at the real /boot. What is in /mnt/etc? |
| 03:56.53 | dclarke | just a sec .. |
| 03:56.56 | dclarke | I have an idea |
| 03:57.08 | gar- | dclarke do you think i make a good desition changing from unix to linux -_-? |
| 03:57.14 | dclarke | how about I create /mnt/part1 /mnt/part2 /mnt/part3 etc and maount them all |
| 03:57.29 | CasaNova__ | Of course a QII server on a work server is for netowkr testing only - real world application speed testing :-) |
| 03:57.34 | dclarke | gar- : depends on what you run |
| 03:57.42 | simpletron | hi |
| 03:57.55 | gar- | dclarke most of the time multimedia apliccations and some net stuff |
| 03:58.06 | gar- | on my unix box |
| 03:58.10 | simpletron | there is some way to get a list of all the packets i have installed in my computer? |
| 03:58.11 | dclarke | mathias64 : lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 1 Dec 4 00:22 /mnt/etc -> . |
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| 03:58.24 | dclarke | gar- : financial companies don't do that stuff |
| 03:58.35 | gar- | agree |
| 03:58.50 | dclarke | weird .. its a link |
| 03:58.55 | Baeaeken | So Im booting up my new linux system when it refuses to start saying something about irq5, and some more about my sata disc...no real error message though |
| 03:58.56 | kuhwalllskee | I'm having a problem.. I ssh to my server from a terminal window.. it asks me for my password.. I put in my password and then it prints me the login banner for my server and returns me to a prompt from my local machine (I know this from uname). But when I type exit (on that local prompt it gave me) it logs me out of the server. I've tried different terminal programs, and when I ssh to it from a different machine (linux, and wi |
| 03:58.57 | kuhwalllskee | ndows (putty)) it works fine. any ideas at all? |
| 03:58.58 | gar- | also i run shoutcast |
| 03:59.00 | Baeaeken | Any clue? |
| 03:59.14 | mathias64 | dclarke: so I am even more convinced that the partition mounted on /mnt is really /boot. Try mounting a different partition on the same disk. (so cd / && umount /mnt and mout something else) |
| 03:59.38 | dclarke | no prob .. one momebnt please |
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| 04:00.10 | mathias64 | Do the scsi /part# partitions start counting at 1? |
| 04:00.24 | gar- | PITA |
| 04:00.27 | dclarke | yes |
| 04:00.31 | dclarke | well .. no |
| 04:00.39 | mathias64 | ? |
| 04:00.40 | Baeaeken | mathias64: Was that for me? |
| 04:00.45 | dclarke | there is a 4 bit number for the logical partitions |
| 04:00.57 | dclarke | they start at 0 really |
| 04:00.57 | mathias64 | Baeaeken: I have no clue. |
| 04:01.13 | mathias64 | dclarke: I was curious because you mounted part1 first |
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| 04:01.48 | dclarke | oh |
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| 04:02.02 | dclarke | mathias64 : I just mounted part1 and 2 and 3 |
| 04:02.13 | dclarke | mathias64 : part4 is swap .. I remember that |
| 04:02.13 | mathias64 | ANy of them have a usr/ inside? |
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| 04:03.02 | dclarke | pasting |
| 04:03.09 | dclarke | everythign is laid out bare now |
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| 04:03.27 | deadcat | when my machine crash, firefox didnt close "properly" i guess. now i cant start the fucker. illegal instruction. what do i do besides rm -rf ~/.firefox ? |
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| 04:03.59 | Baeaeken | Something special to think about using sata-discs when configuring the kernel? |
| 04:04.04 | gar- | anyone have run and working fine world of warcraft with wine???? |
| 04:04.36 | dclarke | mathias64 : here is everything with /usr in part2 : http://pastebin.com/447951 |
| 04:04.44 | azeem | deadcat: apt-get install --reinstall mozilla-firefox or so |
| 04:04.53 | deadcat | azeem: doesnt work |
| 04:05.09 | deadcat | azeem: i am thinking some lock file? because if i rm .firefox it will work |
| 04:05.17 | mathias64 | dclarke: Good. So part2 is the ``real'' root. |
| 04:05.34 | dclarke | mathias64 : looks to be /dev/sdc2 then |
| 04:05.43 | amphi | deadcat: yeah, try removing the stale lockfile, if it's there |
| 04:05.46 | mathias64 | dclarke: right. |
| 04:05.56 | deadcat | amphi: k |
| 04:05.58 | dclarke | mathias64 : or /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target5/lun0/part2 same thing |
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| 04:06.24 | mathias64 | dclarke: just to be safe, I would copy initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp and vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp to the root directory, in case we need them |
| 04:06.24 | dclarke | okay .. so root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 04:06.32 | deadcat | amphi: "*stale*" returns nothing |
| 04:06.36 | positron| | is it a big difference if configuring kernel as 386 even if i had P4? |
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| 04:06.56 | dclarke | mathias64 : I will do that now .. right to the root / or to /boot or /safecopy or ? |
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| 04:07.04 | deadcat | positron|: i doubt you can tell |
| 04:07.23 | positron| | what? |
| 04:07.32 | A3K | man...gonna have to reboot or something. Everything is slowing down. |
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| 04:07.38 | mathias64 | dclarke: I would put them directly in the root. Actually, wait. I would chroot /mnt/part2. |
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| 04:07.48 | mathias64 | dclarke: so we can see what silo is up to . |
| 04:08.08 | dclarke | mathias64 : ooooh .. ya lost me :-) |
| 04:08.48 | mathias64 | if you have a command ``chroot'' in your path, run ``chroot /mnt/part2'' |
| 04:09.19 | dclarke | ~ # chroot /mnt/part2 |
| 04:09.21 | Bogaurd | is there a directive to limit the outgoing rate for proftpd? |
| 04:09.22 | dclarke | done |
| 04:09.27 | dclarke | sh-2.05b# |
| 04:09.48 | dclarke | mathias64 : all of this is while booted from the CDROM thus far .. |
| 04:09.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: if that worked, your / is now what /mnt/part2 used to be. And all future commands will run relative to the new /. |
| 04:10.05 | dclarke | oh .. okay |
| 04:10.09 | amphi | deadcat: it'll be in .firefox/dhufyeiwyiry/default or whatever, just called lock |
| 04:10.11 | mathias64 | dclarke: so in particular, if you have installed things in / then we have access to them. |
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| 04:10.36 | mathias64 | I am looking at http://pastebin.com/447916 and I notice that it points at /initrd.img. Is there really a file /initrd.img? |
| 04:10.46 | dclarke | well .. I no longer can reach upwards ( if that is the right term ) to /mnt/part3 |
| 04:10.59 | dclarke | umm .. nope |
| 04:11.39 | dclarke | perhaps .. I should have mounted part1 into /boot ? |
| 04:11.49 | mathias64 | dclarke: right. Maybe we should have unmounted those filesystems (oops). You can type exit to end the current shell and return to the old setting. then unmount everything except /mnt/part2, then rerun chroot and mount everything in its right place. |
| 04:11.50 | dclarke | that would have given access to the silo stuff |
| 04:12.00 | dclarke | also .. initrd etc etc is no where to be seen |
| 04:12.14 | dclarke | yep .. I follow |
| 04:12.30 | dclarke | perhaps I need to remount those parts into /mnt/part2 |
| 04:12.46 | mathias64 | dclarke: that would work fine. Just put them in to their proper places. |
| 04:13.12 | cddesjar | piece of shit presario |
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| 04:13.22 | dclarke | mathias64 : this is fuzzy .. if part2 is root |
| 04:13.23 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am confused, because part1 and part3 have the same files in your paste |
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| 04:13.34 | dclarke | mathias64 : yeah .. me too |
| 04:13.42 | dclarke | mathias64 : I was just looking at that |
| 04:13.48 | MacVince | What program can I use to join together two DivX (AVI) files? Thanks! |
| 04:13.51 | dclarke | mathias64 : weird |
| 04:13.59 | mathias64 | try mount /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target5/lun0/part1 /mnt/boot |
| 04:14.07 | mathias64 | try mount /dev/scsi/host1/bus0/target5/lun0/part1 /mnt/part2/boot |
| 04:14.14 | mathias64 | The second one is the right one |
| 04:14.17 | dclarke | then chroot |
| 04:14.24 | mathias64 | exactly. |
| 04:14.44 | dclarke | lets ignore part3 as no one knows what it is :-) |
| 04:14.48 | mathias64 | so we set up the file system, then chroot into the new / and everything ought to be waiting for us. |
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| 04:15.06 | sleless | how do i extract a bin file ? |
| 04:15.09 | sleless | bin -f something like that ? |
| 04:15.10 | mathias64 | dclarke: It's very strange to me that the two partitions have identical files. ignoring sounds good |
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| 04:15.33 | mathias64 | But the mount commands look correct. |
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| 04:15.55 | liable | sleless: as in a nero .bin? |
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| 04:16.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : done .. with /boot in place as part 1 |
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| 04:17.03 | mathias64 | Make that the third time xchat has crashed this evening. |
| 04:17.18 | dclarke | yeah .. very stable |
| 04:17.19 | EdLin | mathias64: irssi-text > * |
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| 04:17.26 | liable | again.. |
| 04:17.33 | mathias64 | EdLin: i know, but I can't be bothered to do it right now |
| 04:17.48 | dclarke | mathias64 : done .. with /boot in place as part 1 |
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| 04:18.03 | mathias64 | dclarke. OK. so chroot and then ls /boot to check it. |
| 04:18.13 | dclarke | done |
| 04:18.16 | dclarke | pasting |
| 04:18.26 | mathias64 | dclarke: I keep looking at /boot/silo.conf, which claims there is a file /initrd.img |
| 04:18.36 | dclarke | one of the reasons why I love OpenBoot firmware |
| 04:18.51 | dclarke | is that we can work on a system in a near dead state or worse |
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| 04:19.12 | mathias64 | Straight from the mainframes to you... |
| 04:19.41 | wang | salut! |
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| 04:19.46 | EdLin | dclarke: I hear PPC Macs have openboot too |
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| 04:20.02 | dclarke | yes .. I have PowerPC gear here also |
| 04:20.03 | cddesjar | damn it i have one setup button for this machine and it doesn't give me an options to button from different media |
| 04:20.10 | dclarke | I work on the GRUB2 project a bit also |
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| 04:20.31 | dclarke | hard to believe given how messed up I am on this :-\ |
| 04:20.50 | dclarke | mathias64 : http://pastebin.com/447970 |
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| 04:21.17 | mathias64 | dclarke: great. It looks good. try running silo -version just to see if it works. |
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| 04:21.28 | Jacobo221 | hat commadn can I use to read the label of a partition? |
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| 04:21.43 | dclarke | well .. I can tell you that /boot/silo.conf is garbage |
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| 04:22.14 | dclarke | mathias64 : SILO 1.4.9 Sparc Improved boot LOader |
| 04:22.29 | EdLin | Jacobo221: fdisk -l |
| 04:22.51 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: thanks :) |
| 04:22.51 | dclarke | sh-2.05b# silo -V |
| 04:22.57 | dclarke | SILO version 1.4.9 |
| 04:22.59 | positron| | can i make initrd.img before i compiled and installed modules |
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| 04:23.01 | positron| | ? |
| 04:23.12 | mathias64 | dclarke. Good. I see two options. We could point silo.conf at the files in /boot or we could copy the files to / and point silo.conf at the copies. |
| 04:23.44 | dclarke | mathias64 : hmmm .. for the sake of a first boot |
| 04:24.03 | dclarke | mathias64 : we can copy the initrd and vmlinuz stuff to /boot |
| 04:24.08 | dclarke | mathias64 : we can copy the initrd and vmlinuz stuff to / |
| 04:24.19 | dclarke | mathias64 : AND also fix silo.conf |
| 04:24.27 | dclarke | mathias64 : which has .. issues |
| 04:24.31 | cddesjar | ha ha you can chat live time with compaq help |
| 04:24.41 | mathias64 | dclarke: Yes, you have to fix silo.conf either way. it is completely wrong right now. |
| 04:24.50 | dclarke | perhaps I will cp -p vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp to / |
| 04:24.57 | mathias64 | dclarke: that seems fine. |
| 04:24.59 | ddss | ttt |
| 04:25.13 | dclarke | mathias64 : this makes me question the installer a bit .. |
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| 04:25.14 | cddesjar | did hp buy compaq? |
| 04:25.42 | sleless | to extract a .bin file do i just run it ? |
| 04:25.46 | sleless | e.g. |
| 04:25.47 | jbroome | cddesjar: yeah, a while ago |
| 04:25.51 | sleless | ./example.bin |
| 04:25.52 | wang | yes |
| 04:25.54 | dclarke | mathias64 : sh-2.05b# cp -p /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp / |
| 04:25.59 | wang | like, 10 years ago |
| 04:26.03 | dclarke | mathias64 : sh-2.05b# cp -p /boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp / |
| 04:26.10 | cddesjar | where's my online tech to tell me what button i need to push |
| 04:26.10 | wang | god i'm getting old |
| 04:26.22 | mathias64 | dclarke: i have been reading a silo howto at http://www.nl.ultralinux.org/silo/config.html and it says the partition=1 option is supposed to make the file names relative to partition 1. |
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| 04:26.30 | mathias64 | dclarke: but something isn't working... |
| 04:26.40 | mathias64 | dclarke: the cp commands look fine. |
| 04:27.02 | dclarke | mathias64 : well .. now I have vi |
| 04:27.22 | dclarke | mathias64 : so I can set TERM=vt100 and vi /boot/silo.conf |
| 04:27.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: should work. |
| 04:27.44 | dclarke | mathias64 : perhaps set initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
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| 04:28.22 | dclarke | mathias64 : I can create a new lable .. linux |
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| 04:28.54 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am assuming silo works like lilo, which I am more used to. |
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| 04:29.06 | mathias64 | dclarke: you should be able to edit the first image= stanza |
| 04:29.10 | dclarke | same thing I am fairly sure |
| 04:29.24 | dclarke | GRUB and yaboot are more familiar to me in the PowerPC world |
| 04:29.27 | sleless | is their any other options i can include when running a .bin file ? |
| 04:29.41 | sleless | because i'm trying to run a .bin file and it says it can't find it |
| 04:29.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: I would change partition to 2. I would make the image point at /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp and the initrd point at initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
| 04:29.57 | sleless | even though i've tabbed the file so their was no typos and still says the same thing |
| 04:30.12 | rubixcube_ | ./binfile |
| 04:30.36 | mathias64 | dclarke: while you re there make the timeout larger (say 1000) so you have more time before the boot begins |
| 04:31.02 | cddesjar | damn susie isn't helping me |
| 04:31.29 | sleless | rubixcub_: i do that but it says cannot find file. |
| 04:31.31 | mathias64 | they switched fro lilo to grub on x86 debian, so I had to get used to grub. It really works better than lilo. silo is more like grub in that it knows something about filesystems. LILO essentially just hard-codes the kernel location on the disk into the boot sector. |
| 04:31.39 | sleless | even though it's right |
| 04:32.07 | sleless | ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin |
| 04:32.08 | sleless | -su: ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin: No such file or directory |
| 04:32.09 | cddesjar | all i want is susie to tell me which button to push...i don't think it's that hard |
| 04:32.57 | rubixcube_ | whats the permissions of it |
| 04:32.58 | dclarke | mathias64 : hows this? :: http://pastebin.com/447979 |
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| 04:33.36 | dclarke | mathias64 : the read-only bothers me .. but .. who knows .. |
| 04:33.47 | chengq1 | hi, i am installing turbogears in debian with python2.4.2,GCC 4.0.2(Debian 4.0.1-9), meet the following errors: Setup script exited with error: command 'gcc' failed with exit status 1. |
| 04:34.10 | chengq1 | i have gcc installed, why such errors met? thanks for your replies .. |
| 04:34.11 | wang | EdLin : why, if i may ask |
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| 04:34.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: seems correct. If we wanted to be more pedantic I think we can use (A,B,C)/vmlinuz... to completely specify where the kernel is. The read-only is normal, the krenel will remount the root partition rw later |
| 04:35.11 | dclarke | mathias64 : oh .. as for the |
| 04:35.11 | Xenguy | I'm trying to arrange a more secure alternative to FTP for non-anonymous *uploads* to my box. scponly and rssh both seem worth a look. Does anyone prefer one over the other? |
| 04:35.25 | EdLin | wang: why what? |
| 04:35.27 | dclarke | mathias64 : ( A,B,C) I don't know what that means ? |
| 04:35.53 | dclarke | mathias64 : ( controller,lun,part) ? |
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| 04:36.16 | Guerin | Xenguy: both those require your users to have a shell, right? |
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| 04:36.31 | mathias64 | dclarke: (a,b,c) means the scsi id, like (0,5,0) |
| 04:36.32 | Xenguy | Guerin: not sure yet, but I think so yes |
| 04:36.45 | Guerin | Xenguy: in which case they can use any scp client |
| 04:36.48 | Guerin | or sftp |
| 04:36.52 | dclarke | mathias64 : feel lubky? :-) |
| 04:36.56 | mathias64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:36.56 | mathias64 | other=sd(0,2,0)3 |
| 04:36.57 | Xenguy | Guerin: not sure what the exact mechanisms are tho |
| 04:36.58 | vinay | trying to burn a dvd with dvdrecord and a 2 GB iso created from some files on my harddrive .. dvdrecord started with: "dvdrecord -dummy -dao dev=/dev/hdc speed=8 -data cd.iso" .. it throws "Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0" and "Sense Code: 0x21 Qual 0x02 (logical block address out of range) [No matching qualifier] Fru 0x0" .. any thoughts? .. |
| 04:37.07 | dclarke | mathias64 : feel lucky? :-) I can put in (0,5,0) |
| 04:37.40 | mathias64 | dclarke: wait, you need to run silo before you reboot. I don't really understand SCSI. We neet to point at /dev/sdc2. Would that be (0,5,2) on your machine? |
| 04:38.12 | Xenguy | Guerin: I want to have some software that takes care of chrooting if possible; keeping things tidy essentially :-) |
| 04:38.13 | liable | dclarke: a would be bus0 target 0, b bus0 target1, c bus1 target0 (i think) |
| 04:38.16 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am looking at http://www.nl.ultralinux.org/silo/config.html#devicenames |
| 04:38.24 | dclarke | mathias64 : well .. we can leave it out and give this a try |
| 04:38.28 | Guerin | Xenguy: well, chrooting over ssh is a waste of time |
| 04:38.30 | Guerin | !chroot ssh |
| 04:38.31 | dpkg | it has been said that ssh chroot is Stop. Read http://www.ecediltd.com/la/secureshell@securityfocus.com/0771.html and think it through a little more. This is hard, massively wasteful of disk space, and almost certainly a waste of time. |
| 04:38.39 | mathias64 | dclarke: let's leave it out. you do need to run silo before you reboot. |
| 04:38.57 | mathias64 | that's another advantage of grub - it reads its file from disk each boot, unlike lilo |
| 04:39.05 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: fdisk -l doesn't show me the label of the partitions |
| 04:39.07 | dclarke | geez .. |
| 04:39.14 | dclarke | silo has a pile of options |
| 04:39.32 | EdLin | Jacobo221: is this an x86 box? |
| 04:39.37 | Xenguy | Guerin: I'm not sure that your train of thought is all that helpful :-) |
| 04:39.41 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: yes |
| 04:39.51 | Xenguy | Guerin: I'm not sure this *has* to be a problem |
| 04:39.54 | dclarke | deeply mysterios .. this silo stuff is ( insert Yoda voice ) |
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| 04:40.15 | loick_ | Hi |
| 04:40.31 | mathias64 | dclarke: try silo -c /boot/silo.conf (assuming silo.conf is in /boot) |
| 04:40.35 | dclarke | ah yes .. UltraLinux .. I was surfing that earlier : http://www.ultralinux.org/faq.html |
| 04:40.39 | Guerin | Xenguy: if you read that link, you'll see that chrooting an encrypted login comes with a whole swag of attendant problems. |
| 04:40.44 | dclarke | okay .. |
| 04:40.48 | dclarke | here goes |
| 04:40.52 | Xenguy | Guerin: I think I'll just try some tests; meanwhile, still interested in any feedback from those who have used either rssh or scponly |
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| 04:40.59 | loick_ | anyone can send me a private message please, need some irc client test |
| 04:41.11 | EdLin | Jacobo221: what do you have in mind? Linux uses partitions, not the disklabel/slice of *BSD |
| 04:41.11 | Xenguy | Guerin: I appreciate the caveat - thanks |
| 04:41.28 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: i have in mind vfat labels |
| 04:41.37 | dclarke | looks to be a capital C |
| 04:41.53 | dclarke | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:41.59 | mathias64 | dclarke: the online docs disagree. One of them does say -C. |
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| 04:42.19 | dclarke | mathias64 : oh .. I just ran -C /boot/silo.conf |
| 04:42.34 | mathias64 | dclarke: if silo runs with no erros that I guess we can reboot and cross our fingers. You ought ot be able to type `Linux' at the boot: prompt |
| 04:42.37 | dclarke | -C config specify alternate config file instead of /etc/silo.conf |
| 04:42.37 | EdLin | Jacobo221: maybe www.google.com/linux can help, as I don't know what you're talking about. |
| 04:42.57 | dclarke | okay .. |
| 04:43.15 | dclarke | I checked with silo -? and there is no -c ( lower case C ) |
| 04:43.19 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: fat partitions have labels, ok? i want to read the label a partition has in my disk |
| 04:43.29 | dclarke | hmm .. now .. really dumb question |
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| 04:43.45 | dclarke | to shutdown I better exit the chroot and umount safely |
| 04:44.23 | EdLin | Jacobo221: getting pissed at the fact that I don't know your question won't make you know the answer. |
| 04:44.27 | mathias64 | dclarke: sounds good. I have never tried running shutdown inside a chroot |
| 04:44.28 | dclarke | okay .. to shutdown .. I guess I have access to a shutdown command somewhere |
| 04:44.38 | Jacobo221 | EdLin: ok, nm |
| 04:44.52 | dclarke | mathias64 :20 years of UNIX .. me neither |
| 04:44.58 | mathias64 | dclarke: /sbin/shutdown -r now |
| 04:45.01 | dclarke | mathias64 : :-) |
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| 04:45.22 | liable | doesnt exist in busybox.. |
| 04:45.25 | dclarke | Please stand by while rebooting the system. |
| 04:45.30 | dclarke | Restarting system. |
| 04:45.36 | dclarke | Resetting ... |
| 04:45.39 | mathias64 | Jacobo221: few unix people use fat partitions so i'm not surprised fdisk won't read the labels. fdisk doesn't read filesystems, just partition tables. |
| 04:46.07 | Jacobo221 | mathias64: ok let's just say iso9660 disk then. a cd can have a label. how can i read that label? |
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| 04:46.44 | dclarke | mathias64 : er .. what are we booting by the way ? part1 or part2 ? |
| 04:46.47 | mathias64 | we wang busybox shutdown |
| 04:47.05 | liable | cfdisk shows labels |
| 04:47.09 | dclarke | mathias64 : /dev/sdc2 ? no no .. /dev/sdc1 I think it was .. yes |
| 04:47.15 | mathias64 | dclarke: hopefully everything is coming off of /dev/sdc2 |
| 04:47.43 | dclarke | well .. here I sit at the boot: prompt again |
| 04:47.47 | mathias64 | liable: are you saying debian busybox doesn't have shutdown? I don't know |
| 04:47.50 | dclarke | I hit enter |
| 04:48.09 | dclarke | cramfs: wrong magic |
| 04:48.15 | liable | mathias64: i thought not last time i played, could well be mistaken though. |
| 04:48.17 | dclarke | Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:22 |
| 04:48.21 | dclarke | hmmmm .. |
| 04:48.43 | Xenguy | Guerin: it only took me 5 minutes to read the link, but it's from 2003 and seems a little dated now. The whole point of these 2 pieces of software is to surmount the kinds of problems that that URL was concerned about. That factoid should probably be updated really. |
| 04:49.03 | mathias64 | dclarke: what is the 'kernel command line' in the boot output |
| 04:49.16 | dclarke | mathias64 : <#0> ok boot /iommu@f,e0000000/sbus@f,e0001000/dma@1,81000/esp@1,80000/sd@5,0:a root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 04:49.38 | Guerin | Xenguy: bollocks, nothing *at all* has changed in how ssh and PKI works since 2003. |
| 04:50.07 | dondelelcaro | dclarke: /dev/sdc2 really is the root device? |
| 04:50.08 | Guerin | Xenguy: every single fact in that mail is as true now as the day it was written |
| 04:50.10 | Xenguy | Guerin: I'm going to take an empirical approach and try some actual tests - thanks for the feedback :-) |
| 04:50.27 | dclarke | mathias64 : I'm looking for that now |
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| 04:50.39 | [timmeh] | can someoen tell me how to ban a ip from connecting to my server? |
| 04:50.45 | Xenguy | Guerin: I'm just saying that those constraints may no longer be a practical problem anymore |
| 04:50.52 | dondelelcaro | [timmeh]: using iptables is the trivial method |
| 04:50.56 | dclarke | dondelelcaro, : yeah .. we confirmed that |
| 04:50.58 | Guerin | Xenguy: if your scheme involves chrooting someone who actually has a user shell, it's bloody ridiculous. |
| 04:51.05 | Guerin | Xenguy: you're wrong. |
| 04:51.12 | [timmeh] | what would be the recommended method? |
| 04:51.23 | dondelelcaro | [timmeh]: depends on what type of server you're talking about. |
| 04:51.34 | dondelelcaro | (and what service you want to deny connections to) |
| 04:51.36 | Xenguy | Guerin: If I'm wrong, then the 2 authors of those pieces of software are wrong to - I'm going to see what I can see |
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| 04:52.46 | [timmeh] | to deny from the whole computer |
| 04:52.49 | [timmeh] | its a game server |
| 04:52.57 | [timmeh] | but id rather deny like mysql, ssh etc |
| 04:53.01 | dondelelcaro | [timmeh]: then use an iptables rule to drop it. |
| 04:53.02 | [timmeh] | all in one |
| 04:53.16 | [timmeh] | iptables? |
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| 04:53.26 | dclarke | mathias64 : this is getting .. repetitive : http://pastebin.com/447988 |
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| 04:53.35 | Guerin | Xenguy: no, because neither of those tools actually chroot the user. They just provide a mediated shell - more or less like a ftpd provides a limited number of interactions with the system. |
| 04:53.36 | dondelelcaro | [timmeh]: yes. |
| 04:53.58 | dclarke | mathias64 : sitting at boot: again .. not sure whats up .. |
| 04:54.25 | [timmeh] | so is that like iptables xxx.xxx.xxx.xx DROP ? |
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| 04:54.37 | mathias64 | dclarke: 4479088? The one that didn't get to uncompressing.... |
| 04:54.42 | mathias64 | 447988 |
| 04:54.57 | dondelelcaro | iptables -I INPUT 1 -s fooip -j DROP |
| 04:55.09 | dclarke | mathias64 : ser .. just showing you what I see from power up |
| 04:55.10 | dondelelcaro | [timmeh]: the manpage for iptables is rather complete. |
| 04:55.15 | mathias64 | dclarke. right. |
| 04:55.21 | [timmeh] | ok kool |
| 04:55.24 | dclarke | mathias64 : I can hit enter again ,, |
| 04:55.46 | dclarke | mathias64 : to get the default Label Linux to supposedly boot .. but it crashes .. same error |
| 04:55.51 | [timmeh] | sorry 1 question for a ip range |
| 04:55.54 | dclarke | mathias64 : want to see ? |
| 04:55.56 | Xenguy | Guerin: scponly explicitly states that the user is 'chrooted' in the sense that they are unable to move outside their home directory IIRC |
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| 04:56.05 | [timmeh] | is it just 000.000.00x.xxx style? |
| 04:56.07 | mathias64 | dclarke. try: boot: (0,5,2)vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
| 04:56.23 | mathias64 | dclarke: if the same error is that it doesn't even get to ``uncompressing'' then no |
| 04:56.24 | dclarke | mathias64 : okay .. |
| 04:56.41 | dclarke | mathias64 : yeah .. same old error |
| 04:56.50 | Xenguy | Guerin: I'm not concerned with 'perfect security' or anything, I just want something more bullet-proof than straight FTP. Surely this can be done |
| 04:57.01 | dclarke | mathias64 : okay .. no / in the string ? 0,5,2)vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp ? |
| 04:57.06 | Guerin | Xenguy: but they're clearly not chroot()ed - they can still access /bin/ls using their mediated shell. |
| 04:57.22 | Guerin | Xenguy: it looks like either rssh or scponly will do that |
| 04:57.35 | dclarke | mathias64 : Your imagename `(0,5,2)vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `' have either wrong syntax, |
| 04:57.37 | Xenguy | Guerin: Yes I think that is true |
| 04:57.58 | Guerin | Xenguy: i thought they needed a full user shell - when Iasked if they did, you seemed to indicate that was so. |
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| 04:58.11 | Xenguy | Guerin: perhaps it is the definition of 'chroot' that is disrupting communication here :-) |
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| 04:58.30 | Guerin | Xenguy: yes. There's an actual definition and a different usage. |
| 04:58.31 | mathias64 | dclarke: one moment... |
| 04:58.45 | Xenguy | Guerin: I mentioned that I was just starting to explore these tools, and that I'm not totally sure of many things |
| 04:59.17 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am looking at this example: boot: sd(0,2,0)2/boot/vmlinux.gz root=/dev/sdc2 init=/bin/sh ro |
| 04:59.38 | mathias64 | where there is no space between the sd and the (0,2,0) |
| 04:59.47 | mathias64 | I want to change the numbers and names to match your setup |
| 04:59.53 | dclarke | mathias64 : hmm sd would be SCSI Disk module to load |
| 05:00.07 | Xenguy | Guerin: Anywhere all I really want is to be able to offer a persistent service that allows upload of larger files to my box to a few trusted individuals... |
| 05:00.16 | Xenguy | s/anywhere/anyway |
| 05:00.27 | dondelelcaro | Xenguy: why not just use rsync then? |
| 05:00.31 | mathias64 | no, it's SILO syntax that its a scsi disk not a tape or cd |
| 05:00.41 | Xenguy | over an encrypted connection... |
| 05:00.45 | dclarke | mathias64 : boot: sd(0,5,2)/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 init=/bin/sh ro |
| 05:01.01 | mathias64 | try boot: (0,5,0)2/ vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp and see if that finds a kernel |
| 05:01.18 | Xenguy | dondelelcaro: rsync over ssh -- can a wind0ze user do that? |
| 05:01.18 | mathias64 | we don't want the init=/bin/sh part, that's for emergency situations when you have hosed your system |
| 05:01.29 | mathias64 | the root= argument is good. |
| 05:01.30 | bleaked | Xenguy.. sftp, or ftp over ssh? otherwise i find that pure-ftpd is very simple and very secure. a lot of other people like vsftpd, as ftp servers. |
| 05:01.52 | dclarke | mathias64 : no "sd" string in --> sd(0,5,2)/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 05:01.56 | mathias64 | we will probably also need an initrd argument . But right now it isn't even finding the kernel, so we have to back up a little |
| 05:02.19 | dclarke | mathias64 : (0,5,0)2/ vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 05:02.20 | Xenguy | bleaked: the vsftpd that I was running is fine for FTP, and I saw an article that claimed to setup usage over SSL, but I'm really just looking for something more secure |
| 05:02.24 | mathias64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:02.46 | Xenguy | bleaked: you run ftp over ssh? |
| 05:02.47 | mathias64 | i mean dev/sdc2 |
| 05:02.49 | dclarke | the root is /dev/sdc2 though .. I thought |
| 05:02.54 | dclarke | okay .. |
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| 05:02.59 | dclarke | yep yep |
| 05:03.13 | bleaked | Xenguy.. well, sftp is nice, and so is ftp over ssh. no i don't, but then again i don't currently have a need. (sorry) |
| 05:03.23 | dclarke | Your imagename `sd(0,5,2)2/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `root=/dev/sdc2' have either wrong syntax, |
| 05:03.29 | bleaked | Xenguy.. i just know it's a nice secure choice. |
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| 05:03.49 | mathias64 | Try '(0,5,2)/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' |
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| 05:03.53 | mathias64 | with the sd and without the 2 |
| 05:04.14 | dclarke | Your imagename `(0,5,2)/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `root=/dev/sdc2' have either wrong syntax, |
| 05:04.14 | mathias64 | Also try (0,5,0)2/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
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| 05:04.16 | Xenguy | bleaked: I use scp/sftp for my own file transfers; what I want to do is allow a few trusted others to do it without running around my filesystem :-) |
| 05:04.23 | dclarke | Your imagename `sd(0,5,2)/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `root=/dev/sdc2' have either wrong syntax, |
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| 05:04.38 | mathias64 | hmm. |
| 05:04.42 | dclarke | Your imagename `(0,5,2)2/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `root=/dev/sdc2' have either wrong syntax, |
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| 05:04.52 | kuhwalllskee | I'm having a problem with nfs. I have in my exports a export with the options (rw, sync), I run exportfs -a and it runs w/o a hitch but when I try to mount the directory on a different machine the server denies it and in the logs gives the error that the directory doesn't exist.. I'm using the same directory have I have in my exports... |
| 05:04.54 | mathias64 | (0,5,0)2 |
| 05:05.09 | madona | I have a strange problem doing #apt-get install apt-build |
| 05:05.22 | madona | hi |
| 05:05.25 | dclarke | Your imagename `(0,5,0)2/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp' and arguments `root=/dev/sdc2' have either wrong syntax, |
| 05:05.39 | mathias64 | Well, my documentation isn't making sense. |
| 05:05.52 | dclarke | good guesses though |
| 05:06.08 | dclarke | I _can_ simply go with /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 05:06.14 | mathias64 | Does that work? |
| 05:06.23 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 05:06.27 | bleaked | Xenguy.. make user accounts, and chroot your users. otherwise, i know pure-ftpd is about virtual users, and i find it very secure and very simple to setup. |
| 05:06.31 | mathias64 | That's progress, at least |
| 05:06.34 | dclarke | sure .. now I wait for the crash .. |
| 05:06.37 | mathias64 | right. |
| 05:06.41 | mathias64 | cramfs: wrong magic |
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| 05:06.54 | dclarke | nope .. new error message |
| 05:06.58 | dclarke | hmmm |
| 05:07.00 | mathias64 | wow. what's that |
| 05:07.10 | dclarke | pasting ! :-) |
| 05:07.37 | dclarke | Error: Too many kernel guesses |
| 05:07.42 | dclarke | ha ha .. |
| 05:08.07 | kuhwalllskee | I'm having a problem with nfs. I have in my exports a export with the options (rw, sync), I run exportfs -a and it runs w/o a hitch but when I try to mount the directory on a different machine the server denies it and in the logs gives the error that the directory doesn't exist.. I'm using the same directory have I have in my exports... |
| 05:08.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : http://pastebin.com/447993 |
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| 05:08.33 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: paste /etc/exports somewhere |
| 05:08.46 | fredbear21 | hello everyone |
| 05:09.26 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, it's in #paste |
| 05:09.37 | kuhwalllskee | or.. i'll post on pastebin |
| 05:10.03 | mathias64 | dclarke: try it with initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp appended |
| 05:10.13 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, http://pastebin.com/447994 |
| 05:10.15 | dclarke | cool .. |
| 05:10.32 | dclarke | mathias64 : yeah .. I don't see a bad magic or any of that there |
| 05:10.59 | bleaked | hello, i have two PCI IDE cards, each with one hard drive attached. they are both promise: Promise Technology, Inc. 20269 (rev 02), and Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20262 (FastTrak66/Ultra66) (rev 01), according to lspci. when my system is booted, it finds both cards, and even labels them as hde and hdi. /dev/hde1 mounts just fine. /dev/hdi* does not recognize as a valid block device. /dev/hdi is PDC20262. why might this be? i am runni |
| 05:10.59 | bleaked | ng debian sid, custom kernel 2.6.14 with no patches, and both of the PCI IDE drivers for the two cards compiled in. lspci sees the device, fdisk -l does not. |
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| 05:11.21 | dclarke | mathias64 : boot: /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 05:11.31 | dclarke | mathias64 : looks right ? |
| 05:11.42 | mathias64 | dclarke: let's try that |
| 05:11.49 | bleaked | dclarke.. doesn't the 2.6 kernel have much better smp support? |
| 05:12.11 | dclarke | bleaked : sure .. if I ever get the opportunity |
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| 05:12.31 | bleaked | dclarke.. you don't have the opportunity right now? |
| 05:12.32 | levander | I'm wanting to turn off the 'hotplug system' but am not sure if that's what controls the keyboard / mouse. Anybody can tell me? |
| 05:12.42 | dclarke | mathias64 : cramfs: wrong magic :-( |
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| 05:12.48 | Bogaurd | i'm trying to configure the logging for my iptables firewall script (arnos) but i'm not getting anything in my log (/var/log/firewall) - if i post my syslog config, can someone help me find out whats going wrong? |
| 05:13.04 | dclarke | bleaked : this machine has never booted successfully once |
| 05:13.44 | bleaked | dclarke.. you can't install a 2.6 kernel from a fresh install? |
| 05:14.05 | mathias64 | dclarke: if you don't mind, I would do this: boot the install cd, get a prompt, and get the magic number of the initrd file. I want to check that. |
| 05:14.10 | dclarke | bleaked : I don't know .. this is a fresh download and install |
| 05:14.32 | dclarke | mathias64: cool .. good thinking |
| 05:14.50 | bleaked | dclarke.. yes. when you throw the disc in, use the 'linux26' boot option. also.. |
| 05:15.11 | dclarke | bleaked : what ? |
| 05:15.25 | dclarke | bleaked : this is a install CDROM .. minimal net install image |
| 05:15.32 | bleaked | dclarke.. the install disc. |
| 05:15.33 | bleaked | i know. |
| 05:15.43 | dclarke | <#0> ok boot cdrom |
| 05:15.49 | madona | mik:/# apt-get install libapt-pkg-perl |
| 05:15.50 | madona | Reading package lists... Done |
| 05:15.50 | madona | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 05:15.50 | madona | Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have |
| 05:15.50 | madona | requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable |
| 05:15.50 | madona | distribution that some required packages have not yet been created |
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| 05:15.54 | mathias64 | kuhwallskee: I am confused about 192.168.0.4.* - what does the * mean? |
| 05:16.05 | kuhwalllskee | it's a wildcard.. |
| 05:16.08 | dclarke | bleaked : I see no such options |
| 05:16.12 | mathias64 | for what? 192.168.0.4.8? |
| 05:16.23 | kuhwalllskee | but I removed the wildcard and put a direct ip... |
| 05:16.34 | kuhwalllskee | and it authenticates the mount request no.. just the mount command hangs. |
| 05:16.42 | bleaked | dclarke.. when the cd boots up, and it says: boot: -- type in linux26 |
| 05:16.49 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: that's what I would try. did you restart the nfs daemon after the edit? |
| 05:16.51 | kuhwalllskee | i was thinking about letting fstab take a stab at mounting it. |
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| 05:17.01 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, I just ran exportfs -a |
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| 05:17.33 | bleaked | dclarke.. this will start you off with a 2.6 kernel. and during the install, you can choose a newer kernel. you might have to manually update your /etc/apt/sources file though. |
| 05:17.52 | dclarke | bleaked : no such option exists |
| 05:17.53 | bleaked | dclarke.. the 2.6 kernel has significantly better smp support. |
| 05:18.06 | MCheevy | anyone here with experience using dmraid... got a few questions about it... |
| 05:18.12 | bleaked | dclarke.. well, maybe it's the minimal disc then. |
| 05:18.12 | dclarke | bleaked : I will build it later if I ever get tehre |
| 05:18.13 | Bogaurd | i'm trying to configure the logging for my iptables firewall script (arnos) but i'm not getting anything in my log (/var/log/firewall) - if i post my syslog config, can someone help me find out whats going wrong? |
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| 05:18.25 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: I would remove the wildcard, then kill the nfs daemon and restart it, then check /etc/hosts.allow, then try mounting from the remote host. You also need to be sure rpc is listening on the external address of the nfs server |
| 05:18.46 | dclarke | mathias64 : this will take a little time .. |
| 05:18.53 | mathias64 | sure |
| 05:18.59 | dclarke | mathias64 : but at least the path is well known |
| 05:19.03 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, the external if that I'm connecting to right... which is actually internal... |
| 05:19.08 | madona | hello |
| 05:19.09 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, from my pov |
| 05:19.14 | dclarke | mathias64 : working on it now |
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| 05:19.42 | madona | I can not install libapt-pkg-perl en unstable i386 |
| 05:19.51 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: I remember debian gives a configure option to only bind rpc to 127.0.0.1 instead of all interfaces. I was saying -- you shouldn't have taken that option if you're using nfs. it's just one possible point of failure here. |
| 05:20.02 | madona | apt-get seems to works wrong |
| 05:20.15 | kevix | madona: what is the error |
| 05:20.22 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, ahh I see what your saying |
| 05:20.44 | kuhwalllskee | mathias64, what would I need to check to see if it's set up that way? |
| 05:21.12 | madona | kevix : Broken packages |
| 05:21.20 | madona | libapt-pkg-perl: Depends: libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6-3.10 |
| 05:21.34 | mathias64 | dpkg-reconfigure portmap I think you should say ``no'' |
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| 05:22.14 | madona | but when I do apt-get install libapt-pkg-libc6... Its just in the last version installed |
| 05:22.18 | kevix | madona: did you try to install apt from experimental? or do you have stable/testing/unstable in your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:22.49 | madona | I have experimental in my sources.list |
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| 05:22.59 | kevix | madona: ahh.... |
| 05:23.14 | madona | I will check the order of the mirrors in the file |
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| 05:23.26 | kuhwalllskee | how do I reconfigure debian packages? |
| 05:23.43 | mathias64 | kuhwalllskee: dpkg-reconfigure package_name |
| 05:23.46 | EdLin | madona: the order doesn't matter much I think, pinning matters |
| 05:24.13 | kevix | kuhwalllskee: use 'dpkg-reconfigure <PKGNAME>' but not all packages names work. |
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| 05:25.34 | kevix | madona: did you want to install the latest experimental apt and/or aptitude? |
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| 05:26.11 | MotoHoss | 'New Login' button is missing from the xscreensaver login prompt. pls steer me in the right direction, (google failed me). (pls). |
| 05:26.13 | madona | no.. |
| 05:26.54 | madona | kevix: I just wanted to install apt-build . But this problem with this other package apeared |
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| 05:27.46 | Varak | how do i search for what package contains ImageMagick.h ? |
| 05:28.37 | kuhwalllskee | Varak, wouldn't that be the imagemagick development package? |
| 05:28.41 | kevix | madona: what does 'apt-cache policy apt' wrt what is in /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 05:29.02 | Varak | yeah, thats waht i think too |
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| 05:29.22 | Varak | i installed imagemagick, now i need to figure out what the development thing is called |
| 05:29.38 | Varak | i figure there must be some command to search the packages, i just dont know what that is |
| 05:29.57 | kevix | Varak: if you have the file installed, use 'dpkg -S FILENAME', otherwise, just packages.debian.org or install 'apt-file' |
| 05:30.09 | Varak | thank you |
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| 05:31.06 | tvn | is there an equivalent of 1ClickDVDCopy (Windows) on Linux ? |
| 05:31.30 | madona | kevix : it doent write anithing about /var/lib/dpkg/status |
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| 05:31.43 | kevix | tvn, if you are feeling brave, you can run 1clickdvdcopy under WINE x-) |
| 05:32.01 | madona | ahaha |
| 05:32.10 | dclarke | mathias64 : still around ? : http://pastebin.com/448003 |
| 05:32.12 | madona | kevix: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 05:32.12 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:32.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : this quad processor machine is getting no where fast ... |
| 05:32.30 | mathias64 | i'm here. one minute while i look at the paste |
| 05:33.01 | mathias64 | dclarke: can you run ``file /initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp''' |
| 05:33.06 | dclarke | mathias64 : no problem .. I figure there is some really minor little thing holding up the show .. |
| 05:33.27 | dclarke | sh: file: command not found |
| 05:33.29 | dclarke | odd |
| 05:33.34 | tvn | kevix: I prefer a native Linux one :P |
| 05:33.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: did you chroot? |
| 05:33.39 | kevix | madona: I have 0.6.43, so you are not using the most recent. hmm. have you though of doing 'apt-get update' this may fix the issue. |
| 05:33.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: it may not be around, since you haven't gotten much installed yet. |
| 05:33.52 | dclarke | mathias64 : yes |
| 05:34.03 | mathias64 | dclarke: try od -N 4 -x /initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp |
| 05:34.08 | dclarke | mathias64 : oh .. yes |
| 05:34.13 | mathias64 | i hope busybox implements od... |
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| 05:34.29 | dclarke | the ultimate .. dump the HEX |
| 05:34.46 | Bogaurd | hmm - my sysloging is totally messed up - my firewall is not logging *anything* |
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| 05:34.57 | Bogaurd | if i post up my syslog config, can someone have a loo? |
| 05:34.58 | mathias64 | dclarke - that's what wrong magic means. whatever the kernel is trying to load, has the wrong first 4 bytes. |
| 05:35.09 | jbroome | Bogaurd: maybe all the script kiddies took the night off? :) |
| 05:35.13 | mathias64 | I want to check your initrd against mine |
| 05:35.49 | kevix | tvn: have you tried 'apt-cache search dvd'? |
| 05:35.51 | Bogaurd | jbroome: hehe, i'm initiating port scans and pings from another machine. |
| 05:35.58 | madona | kevix: I have 0.6.43exp2 0 |
| 05:35.59 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.08 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.08 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.35 | dclarke | mathias64 : this will have different endian I think : http://pastebin.com/448004 |
| 05:36.40 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.41 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.41 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:36.41 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:36.56 | tvn | kevix: there are too many ... I am looking for recommendations |
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| 05:37.15 | dclarke | mathias64 : I did that in single bytes : 000000 28 cd 3d 45 00 21 70 00 00 00 00 03 00 00 00 00 |
| 05:37.26 | varsendagger | hey i just installed debian and it toold me that i needed to install or reconfigure somehting for my network, what was it? |
| 05:37.40 | kevix | tvn, if you google in the mailing list 'debian-user' there will be may great ones. I read it but dont rip/copy dvd. |
| 05:37.42 | dclarke | mathias64 : did you wand words or DWORDS ( what ever Microsfot calls them ) |
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| 05:37.51 | mathias64 | dclarke: my first 4 bytes are 8b1f 0008. that's not an endian difference ... |
| 05:37.53 | ratero | The Spanish language lives! |
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| 05:38.12 | varsendagger | it was in the form of dpkg -reconfigure ___________ what ever that blank is |
| 05:38.17 | dclarke | mathias64 : totally different architecture |
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| 05:38.29 | varsendagger | tvn, what are you looking for? |
| 05:38.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : you're on x86 there I guess ? |
| 05:38.34 | mathias64 | dclarke: the magic numebrs should be the sme, right? up to endianness |
| 05:38.57 | z3d3 | I'm looking to port forward a high port to a my ssh port on my debian server for security . Is iptables the best choice for this? |
| 05:39.11 | tvn | varsendagger: something equivalent to Windows' 1 Click DVD Copy |
| 05:39.13 | kevix | varsendagger: the file to configure is /etc/network/interfaces. read 'man interfaces' for all the info. |
| 05:39.15 | ratero | The Spanish language lives! |
| 05:39.31 | dclarke | mathias64 : just a sec .. let me see if I can check another box |
| 05:39.35 | z3d3 | tvn...i use GnomeBaker to burn my dvds |
| 05:39.37 | varsendagger | kevix thanks |
| 05:39.48 | karsten | Supposing I've got remote access to a box which won't let me shell out ... |
| 05:39.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: I want you to gzip your initrd, and then try to boot using the gzipped one. my initrd is a gzip file, although the extension doesn't reflect that. |
| 05:39.59 | tvn | z3d3: does it copy dvd or just to make dvd ? |
| 05:40.01 | karsten | ... but I've got a vim session open and _can_ read in /proc and similar entries. |
| 05:40.04 | dclarke | mathias64 : my guess is as good as yours .. but in the AT&T SVR4 UNIX world its cross platform |
| 05:40.08 | karsten | How do I find out what's running on the box? |
| 05:40.16 | z3d3 | tvn, i had only burnt data backups on it. I have not tried to copy dvds as of yet |
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| 05:40.28 | mathias64 | file initrd.img-2.6.14-1-amd64-k8 |
| 05:40.28 | mathias64 | initrd.img-2.6.14-1-amd64-k8: gzip compressed data, from Unix, max compression |
| 05:40.28 | z3d3 | karsten, uname -a |
| 05:40.31 | Bogaurd | here is my syslog config: http://pastebin.com/448006 - my firewall is set to loglovel=debug, but i dont seem to be getting *any* output in /var/log/firewall - anyone have any idea why? |
| 05:40.39 | madona | KEVIX ? |
| 05:40.41 | karsten | z3d3: No shell. |
| 05:40.45 | madona | kevix |
| 05:41.04 | stdoubt | karsten: you mean you're in X? |
| 05:41.06 | kevix | madona: I guess you forgot about pasteing too may lines! |
| 05:41.06 | z3d3 | karsten, ah...that may be hard then, you aren't hax0ring a box are you? |
| 05:41.06 | karsten | So it has to be a file with something. |
| 05:41.12 | karsten | stdoubt: Scrollback. |
| 05:41.26 | karsten | stdoubt: I've got remote ssh, a screen session, and one vim session w/in that. |
| 05:41.30 | madona | yes |
| 05:41.39 | madona | sorry |
| 05:41.40 | karsten | z3d3: No, I'm trying to recover a friends. |
| 05:41.50 | karsten | z3d3: ... fallback is to drive to it and reboot it. |
| 05:41.50 | z3d3 | karsten, you can open a shell in vim i believe, (because you can in vi), try :sh |
| 05:42.06 | dclarke | mathias64 : UNIX : /kernel/genunix: ELF 32-bit MSB relocatable SPARC Version 1 |
| 05:42.11 | kevix | madona: my guess is that you should try to install an 'unstable' apt and then try to install apt-build. |
| 05:42.12 | karsten | z3d3: I'll spell this out for you: I CAN'T RUN A SHELL. I CAN'T RUN PROCESSES. |
| 05:42.20 | mathias64 | dclarke: which file is that? |
| 05:42.25 | varsendagger | if i have an ubuntu system up and running can i just copy over the /etc/network/interfaces over to my new debian? |
| 05:42.26 | karsten | z3d3: The trick here is to read crap out of /proc file entries. |
| 05:42.28 | dclarke | mathias64 : anyways .. I'll compress the file |
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| 05:42.40 | dclarke | mathias64 : that is genunix |
| 05:42.44 | karsten | z3d3: ... unfortunately, vim won't read directory entries or I could get a list of PIDs. |
| 05:42.48 | dclarke | mathias64 : the UNIX kernel |
| 05:43.05 | karsten | z3d3: Existing procs are happy. New ones aren't. |
| 05:43.09 | dclarke | mathias64 : apples and oranges .. its not Linux |
| 05:43.18 | karsten | z3d3: ... and apparently there's plenty of free RAM, so that's not it. |
| 05:43.38 | karsten | z3d3: .. /proc/meminfo |
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| 05:43.46 | z3d3 | karsten, can you open or save a file with vim? |
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| 05:44.00 | sshock__ | karsten: attack the machine with a buffer overflow exploit to gain shell access! |
| 05:44.01 | kevix | varsendagger: since Ubuntu is based upon debian, yes (if they are on the same box). |
| 05:44.04 | dclarke | mathias64 : also .. genunix is just another of those nifty domains that I own :-) |
| 05:44.07 | mathias64 | dclarke: actually, I think a sparc executable compiled for Linux has the same magic number, since Linux uses ELF on sparc. |
| 05:44.16 | TNKS_ | hi all. I'm just dinking around with gdesklets, and I got interested in the state of XComposite support in Etch's X.org. |
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| 05:44.24 | z3d3 | on the port forwarding question. Is iptables/ipchains my best bet, or is there something simpler for a box that just needs one highlevel port to forward to ssh? |
| 05:44.25 | astronut | is there any way to make gdm log in from the console? |
| 05:44.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : ah yes .. both ELF .. |
| 05:44.32 | TNKS_ | Does anybody know about packages for transset or xcompmgr? |
| 05:44.36 | mathias64 | At least, when I had a sparc5 running debian I got similar output from ``file'' |
| 05:45.21 | dclarke | mathias64 : so .. what was the next experiment? gzip -9 -v initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp ? |
| 05:45.25 | madona | kevix : apt-get install -t unstable apt ....apt is already the newest version. |
| 05:45.25 | madona | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 12 not upgraded. |
| 05:45.27 | karsten | z3d3: Yes. |
| 05:45.39 | karsten | sshock__: Likely impossible if the problem is process table overflow. |
| 05:45.54 | mathias64 | dclarke: I would just do gzip -v initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp, I don't think the -9 is needed |
| 05:45.59 | kevix | madona: what happends if you do 'apt-get install -t unstable apt-build' ? |
| 05:46.04 | karsten | z3d3: Can you think of anything that's got load average in it? /proc/uptime doesn't. |
| 05:46.16 | ratero | The Spanish language lives! |
| 05:46.19 | ratero | The Spanish language lives! |
| 05:46.29 | karsten | !ops ratero troll |
| 05:46.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: ratero troll |
| 05:46.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : compressing |
| 05:46.31 | mathias64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:46.32 | karsten | ratero: Stop |
| 05:46.32 | kevix | ratero: are you a bot! |
| 05:46.37 | dclarke | mathias64 : done |
| 05:46.55 | dclarke | mathias64 : whoa .. 0.3% |
| 05:47.05 | madona | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 05:47.05 | madona | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:47.05 | madona | E: Broken packages |
| 05:47.05 | dclarke | mathias64 : almost no compression effect |
| 05:47.07 | z3d3 | karsten, perhaps /proc/loadavg |
| 05:47.18 | karsten | z3d3: Point. |
| 05:47.31 | karsten | 12.02 11.69 10.49 2/93 726 |
| 05:47.41 | karsten | Hrm. High, but not insane. |
| 05:47.44 | mathias64 | dclarke: the problem isn't the size. try the od -N 4 -x again and let me know the bytes you see |
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| 05:47.52 | kevix | madona: how about doing 'apt-get update' first? |
| 05:47.59 | dclarke | 000000 1f 8b 08 08 6c 35 92 43 00 03 69 6e 69 74 72 64 |
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| 05:48.26 | karsten | !beer dondelelcaro |
| 05:48.47 | karsten | mathias64: What are you compressing? |
| 05:48.51 | z3d3 | karsten, what is wrong with your friends box? What are you trying to accomplish? |
| 05:48.56 | mathias64 | dclarke: my initrd is 8b1f 0008. that's good considereing the endian difference. the 0008 / 0808 is probably the gzip compression ratio. |
| 05:49.04 | mathias64 | karsten: an initrd |
| 05:49.10 | karsten | z3d3: It's largely unresponsive. I'm trying to make it responsive. |
| 05:49.17 | madona | When I update , It end with W: GPG error: http://pkg-grass.alioth.debian.org unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY C9954149FB2173F6 |
| 05:49.18 | madona | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 05:49.18 | karsten | mathias64: They're already compressed. |
| 05:49.20 | tonberry | I have a small problem here... I'm completely new to linux, and I installed Debian on my pc cause I had heard that it was the easiest version to start off with... apparently, I got it mixed up with ubuntu. So I just tried to use partitionmagic i win to remove it, which just caused the system to not boot properly, because of the bootloader Debian installed in some root file on my win partition. I got that fixed, though, but now I need help to remove the b |
| 05:49.33 | mathias64 | karsten: his wasn't |
| 05:49.35 | dclarke | mathias64 : the first two bytes are exactly the same |
| 05:50.00 | dclarke | mathias64 : just a sec .. |
| 05:50.02 | mathias64 | dclarke: right. check the file name and then let's reboot and try again. same boot command as last time but with the compressed initrd |
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| 05:50.27 | karsten | z3d3: Eg: I can't run a shell. If I try starting a new window w/in screen, it hangs. Running commands from an existing shell hangs. Mutt hangs.... |
| 05:50.29 | kevix | madona: that is a warning, you can live with that. try 'apt-get install apt-build libapt-pkg-perl' |
| 05:50.39 | mathias64 | karsten: his initrd had exactly the magic number of a cramfs filesystem rather than a gzip file |
| 05:50.41 | karsten | mathias64: Apparently it has a lot of nonredundant data in it. |
| 05:50.48 | dclarke | mathias64 : just to verify .. 0x08h / 0xFFh = 0.03125 |
| 05:50.59 | dclarke | mathias64 : just to verify .. 0x08h / 0xFFh = 0.03125 == 3% |
| 05:51.08 | mathias64 | dclarke: huh? |
| 05:51.09 | dclarke | mathias64 : perfect |
| 05:51.12 | karsten | mathias64: OK. What about the contents of the cramfs? |
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| 05:51.23 | z3d3 | karsten, i wonder if it's disk space issue. I wonder if there is a rogue log file... for something silly like an exim misconfiguration |
| 05:51.37 | mathias64 | dclarke: I want the first two bytes to be 8b1f or the reverse.. |
| 05:51.47 | mathias64 | and that's what you had. |
| 05:51.49 | dclarke | mathias64 : you mentioned 3% compression and then pointed to the byte 8 |
| 05:52.06 | tonberry | anyone? |
| 05:52.09 | madona | kevix: that produce the same as just apt-get install apt-build |
| 05:52.11 | stdoubt | tonberry: don't worry about the booting thing -just go ahead and install ubuntu on the non-win partition |
| 05:52.17 | kevix | karsten: I got in on the tail end: you are on a sparc, ssh'd in, with screen, fiddling with kernel thingy? |
| 05:52.22 | tonberry | I tried it, but the install failed |
| 05:52.23 | dclarke | mathias64 : what about vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp ?? |
| 05:52.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: the compression ratio isn't really important -- it's convincing the kernel that the initrd really is the initrd. so if the kernel wants it compressed, we have to make it compressed |
| 05:52.39 | stdoubt | tonberry failed how? whachamean? |
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| 05:53.06 | mathias64 | dclarke: since we got ``uncompressing'' it means that some linux kernel was read correctly. |
| 05:53.06 | dclarke | mathias64 : we are in good shape for that then .. the magic number looks good to go |
| 05:53.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : we know that /dev/sdc2 is correct for root |
| 05:53.31 | tonberry | it said that some of the packages didn't install properly, and I tried to boot into suse, but I just got some error |
| 05:53.37 | mathias64 | dclarke: so the vmlinuz is OK. The name vmlinuz means it is compressed- uncompressed kernels are labeled vmlinux |
| 05:53.40 | kevix | madona: can you join me in #flood |
| 05:53.51 | mathias64 | dclarke: I hope that that worked. I would leave it the same |
| 05:54.06 | stdoubt | tonberry: so you have win and suse and debian on one drive? |
| 05:54.11 | dclarke | mathias64 : perhaps another look at silo.conf |
| 05:54.18 | tonberry | no on two partitions on the same drive |
| 05:54.28 | kevix | madona: can you join me in #flood |
| 05:54.39 | mathias64 | dclarke: the silo.conf had some major error, since the kernel wan't even uncompressed. I don't know what the problem was, though. |
| 05:54.41 | madona | I did /join #flood |
| 05:54.58 | ohad | hi, does anyone know of a js funcation that will swap div's colors onselect of a checkbox? |
| 05:55.00 | stdoubt | tonberry: use my name in replies please - so one partition is suse and 1 is win? |
| 05:55.21 | dclarke | mathias64 : I guess everything can be specified on the command line then |
| 05:55.33 | mathias64 | dclarke: for nw, that seems to be working better. |
| 05:55.33 | dclarke | mathias64 : at the boot prompt |
| 05:55.34 | tonberry | stdoubt: yes, I fidured it should work that way... |
| 05:55.52 | dclarke | mathias64 : okay .. exit chroot and shutdown ? |
| 05:56.09 | stdoubt | tonberry: what you want is ubuntu and win dual-boot? |
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| 05:56.17 | tonberry | stdoubt:yes |
| 05:56.42 | stdoubt | tonberry: and win is booting fine at the moment? |
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| 05:56.57 | tonberry | stdoubt: so it seems, no abnormal problems |
| 05:57.14 | tonberry | stdoubt: debian command is booting ok btw |
| 05:57.39 | stdoubt | tonberry: wtf is "debian command" :P |
| 05:57.48 | karsten | kevix: x86 box. |
| 05:58.01 | tonberry | stdoubt: sorry, don't know what else to call it. The command line in Debian... |
| 05:58.16 | fer | how can I know my public IP in this chat o maybe some commands |
| 05:58.35 | mathias64 | fer: /sbin/ifconfig |
| 05:59.18 | stdoubt | tonberry: oh, i see - you can boot win and debian fine then? If you have no data you need to save from the would-be ubuntu partition, i recommend "formatting" that partition to FAT32 or so under windows then re-try ubuntu install |
| 05:59.19 | tonberry | stdoubt: I started messing around with linux like six hours ago, so please excuse my incomplete vocabulary :p |
| 05:59.35 | karsten | z3d3: I don't thing filesystem utilization would do it. Running out of file handles might. |
| 05:59.40 | stdoubt | tonberry: gotcha ;] |
| 06:00.17 | dclarke | mathias64 : boot: /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 06:00.26 | dclarke | mathias64 : boot: /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp.gz root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 06:00.37 | karsten | kevix: ... box is partially unresponsive, can't start new processes. I'm IRC'd from it ATM, ssh'd in remotely. Only real way to get info is reading /proc entries through a vim session. |
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| 06:00.45 | tonberry | stdoubt: yes, I tried that, but the system wouldn't boot because of the boot loader (or whatever it's called, the blue screen that pops up on startup where I choose boot OS) Debian installs on my win partition on install |
| 06:00.49 | kingsley | tonberry: Congratulations! |
| 06:00.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: let's try it. |
| 06:01.11 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 06:01.14 | cddesjar | are you guys still working on dclarke's computer? |
| 06:01.15 | tonberry | stdoubt: thanks..... |
| 06:01.19 | mathias64 | that's stage 1. |
| 06:01.23 | dclarke | Loaded kernel version 2.4.27 |
| 06:01.31 | kevix | karsten: did you have some app that hogged mem, and then the kernel kill an app? |
| 06:01.38 | tonberry | stdoubt: I've really screwed up, haven't I? |
| 06:01.42 | karsten | kevix: Don't know. |
| 06:01.44 | stdoubt | tonberry: you're telling me you formatted the debian partition under windows and it still boots debian? iiii dunno about that |
| 06:01.46 | z3d3 | karsten, check the maximum # of files that can be opened.... /proc/sys/fs/file-max |
| 06:01.57 | karsten | kevix: ... there's a fair amount of free RAM though. |
| 06:02.04 | z3d3 | karsten, it should be insanely high |
| 06:02.14 | karsten | kevix: Mem: 262807552 252899328 9908224 0 39452672 139436032 |
| 06:02.24 | tonberry | stdoubt: nono, I couldn't boot properly from HDD after I formatted, so I booted from install cd instead and reinstalled debian. |
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| 06:02.34 | karsten | z3d3: 60000 |
| 06:02.49 | tonberry | stdoubt: debian install cd, that is |
| 06:02.58 | karsten | z3d3: ... vs 101240 on my local workstation |
| 06:03.03 | stdoubt | tonberry: is debian up and running at the moment? |
| 06:03.09 | mathias64 | dclarke: any luck? |
| 06:03.15 | dclarke | mathias64 : well gee .. is this worse or better ? http://pastebin.com/448015 |
| 06:03.17 | tonberry | stdoubt: yes, if I boot, that is... |
| 06:03.32 | tonberry | stdoubt: I'm running win now |
| 06:03.32 | dclarke | mathias64 : system is hung right there .. |
| 06:03.35 | karsten | z3d3: What's /proc/sys/fs/file-nr show me? |
| 06:03.47 | z3d3 | karsten, that will show you the number of file descriptors being used. |
| 06:03.57 | z3d3 | karsten, first column, total # of allocated fd's |
| 06:04.04 | mathias64 | dclarke: boot: /vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp initrd=/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp root=/dev/sdc2 |
| 06:04.11 | mathias64 | Did you include the .gz? |
| 06:04.16 | z3d3 | karsten, second column is # of free (but allocated) fds |
| 06:04.18 | dclarke | no |
| 06:04.21 | kevix | karsten: when you say 'unresponsive', what does that mean. |
| 06:04.27 | kingsley | tonberry: If you're using an unimportant computer, it's good to experiment, even re-installing a few times. |
| 06:04.28 | z3d3 | karsten, third column is maximum number of fds available |
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| 06:04.36 | karsten | kevix: If I try to launch a new process, that shell hangs. |
| 06:04.46 | karsten | kevix: Eg: new screen windows, commands from shell. |
| 06:04.58 | mathias64 | try 'ls /' at th eboot: prompt to double-check that the file is named with a .gz extension (It should be) |
| 06:05.07 | karsten | kevix: ... so my only safe way of gathering information is to query /proc files from vim (read them into the buffer). |
| 06:05.14 | stdoubt | tonberry: i don't know if fdisk exists under windows, but if you can "delete non-dos partition" then format it FAT32, you should not have a problem getting ubuntu onto that partition |
| 06:05.23 | karsten | kevix: I *can* read and create files. So that suggests file handles isn't the problem. |
| 06:05.27 | z3d3 | karsten, how many fd's does the system have open? |
| 06:05.31 | dclarke | mathias64 : initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp.gz |
| 06:05.35 | karsten | z3d3: 2317 1128 60000 |
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| 06:05.44 | stdoubt | tonberry: do you know where you installed GRUB? |
| 06:05.45 | mathias64 | dclarke: try it with that filename for the initrd. |
| 06:05.58 | karsten | z3d3: So well into the green range. I want to know how many PIDs I've got... |
| 06:06.02 | tonberry | stdoubt: it's nothing really important on it, ony my personal stuff, music and such... Problem is, I don't want ubuntu, I want to remove it.... |
| 06:06.40 | tonberry | stdoubt: I'm sorry if I'm not explaining myself very well... |
| 06:06.46 | dclarke | Uncompressing image... |
| 06:06.51 | antistat | anyone: Anyone have suggestions for CD burning software in Etch (using KDE)? |
| 06:06.57 | mathias64 | let me know if it crashes right away again |
| 06:07.10 | stdoubt | tonberry: I thought you wanted to remove debian..uhh -try this: boot into ubuntu/debian whatever and "sudo apt-get remove grub" -reboot that might do it |
| 06:07.20 | dclarke | mathias64 : nope |
| 06:07.22 | tonberry | aah |
| 06:07.25 | mathias64 | good. |
| 06:07.27 | dclarke | mathias64 : crashes a little later |
| 06:07.27 | tonberry | stdoubt: I'll try that |
| 06:07.35 | dclarke | mathias64 : Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 08:22 |
| 06:07.55 | dclarke | mathias64 : no cramfs error though |
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| 06:08.02 | dclarke | mathias64 : Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 06:08.03 | karsten | dclarke: bad root fs specification or no driver. |
| 06:08.12 | Wettoad | dclarke: do you have a filesystem driver? |
| 06:08.17 | tonberry | stdoubt: I'll be back if that doesn't work, otherwise, thank you so much for helping a poor noob :) |
| 06:08.22 | mathias64 | dclarke: could you paste that output? |
| 06:08.23 | karsten | antistat: cdrecord, k3b. |
| 06:08.27 | stdoubt | tonberry YW |
| 06:08.34 | dclarke | mathias64 : working on it .. |
| 06:08.36 | kevix | karsten: what shell have you tried to launch? ksh, post, ash, dash, ... |
| 06:08.36 | mathias64 | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:08.38 | kingsley | karsten: /proc/version |
| 06:09.07 | tonberry | stdoubt: YW? |
| 06:09.20 | stdoubt | you're welcome -geeze you ARE a noob ;] |
| 06:09.27 | antistat | karsten - k3b is a virtual package only. I'll look into cdrecord, thanks. |
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| 06:09.47 | tonberry | stdoubt: also, I haven't used mirc in a fez years |
| 06:10.08 | stdoubt | tonberry: np gl+hf lol |
| 06:10.18 | stdoubt | really though good luck |
| 06:10.20 | karsten | antistat: k3b is a pretty damned good GUI cd burning front-end. |
| 06:10.33 | karsten | antistat: I use cdrecord myself. |
| 06:10.35 | tonberry | stdoubt: hehe thanks :) |
| 06:10.42 | stdoubt | ...you're gonna need it running winderz |
| 06:11.04 | dclarke | mathias64 : http://pastebin.com/448016 |
| 06:11.24 | antistat | karsten - I used k3b when I was running Sarge |
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| 06:12.14 | dclarke | mathias64 : "Please append a correct "root=" boot option" .. gee .. what does it want ... I wonder |
| 06:12.26 | kevix | !ircdump http://pastebin.com/448016 |
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| 06:12.29 | mathias64 | dclarke: let's try it with the /dev/disks/... address instead of /dev/sdc |
| 06:12.52 | dclarke | with /dev/scsi etc etc ? |
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| 06:13.05 | mathias64 | dclarke: note that the ``cramfs: wrong magic'' is gone |
| 06:13.10 | kevix | !exec ~/bin/pastebin http://448016 |
| 06:13.11 | dpkg | kevix: access denied! |
| 06:13.13 | DA_ | i have a packe installed from a .deb that fails to remove, how can i a) tell dpkg to ignore the package (it doesnt exist) or b) remove it completely no questions asked? |
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| 06:13.22 | dclarke | yes .. this is a good indicator I think |
| 06:13.28 | karsten | kevix: just bash via screen, my default. |
| 06:13.34 | mathias64 | dclarke: the crdom boot gives /dev/rd/0 as the initial root argument, so we can try that, too |
| 06:13.34 | karsten | kevix: new processes won't run. |
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| 06:14.17 | kingsley | DA_: Have you tired "dpkg --purge <package>"? |
| 06:14.20 | karsten | kevix: On the order of 90 processes, so it's not PID table overflow. |
| 06:14.20 | dclarke | mathias64 : /dev/rd/foo ? odd .. what is rd ? |
| 06:14.34 | karsten | kevix: ... tabbed through the file completion list for /proc. |
| 06:14.41 | mathias64 | dclarke: yeah, i'm thinking of the long form with lun and part |
| 06:14.50 | mathias64 | /dev/rd/N stands for RamDisk #N |
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| 06:14.55 | DA_ | kingsley, of course :) i get subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1 |
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| 06:15.01 | karsten | DA_: man dpkg, look for 'force-things' |
| 06:15.05 | mathias64 | the cdrom boot (that works) says Kernel command line: root=/dev/rd/0 cdrom ramdisk_size=16384 devfs=mount rw |
| 06:15.18 | DA_ | karsten, force-things? got it... |
| 06:15.21 | karsten | DA_: ... manually run and debug the post-removal script. Fix it and file a bug. |
| 06:15.32 | karsten | DA_: ... do that _before_ trying force-things, IMO. |
| 06:15.38 | DA_ | karsten, this isnt a standard debian package |
| 06:15.38 | kevix | karsten: I always like to look at the output of 'ps -A f' (note the space) for 'forest view'. |
| 06:15.51 | karsten | kevix: Can't run that. |
| 06:15.51 | dclarke | mathias64 : in the case of the CDROM we never got a ext2 filesystem and stayed in RAM I think |
| 06:16.04 | karsten | kevix: I can't run proceses. |
| 06:16.14 | mathias64 | dclarke: yeah. I would try the long form of the scsi address first |
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| 06:16.28 | mathias64 | dclarke: i think you're right that that is why the cdrom line was that way. |
| 06:16.29 | dclarke | mathias64 : from the boot: prompt I looked for /dev/scsi .. no such animal |
| 06:16.34 | karsten | kevix: I've got five active procs. One is my screen session, one is this IRC session, a browser, vim, and a hung shell. |
| 06:16.41 | kevix | karsten: has this thing been compromised? |
| 06:16.49 | dclarke | mathias64 : the /dev/ area is fully populated however |
| 06:16.50 | mathias64 | right. what we o |
| 06:16.57 | karsten | kevix: ... job control won't cancel the hung proc. |
| 06:17.01 | karsten | kevix: ... don't know that. |
| 06:17.33 | kevix | karsten: you can use the browser to view files with 'file:/// |
| 06:17.33 | bou1 | pfff! I manage to make my wireless card working ... took a while. |
| 06:17.51 | bou1 | dclarke: you still have your problem with the ipw2200? |
| 06:18.05 | bou1 | or it wasn't you ... |
| 06:18.21 | mathias64 | is there a sdc there? |
| 06:18.23 | dclarke | wasn't me |
| 06:18.27 | bou1 | ok |
| 06:18.29 | bou1 | :) |
| 06:18.45 | dclarke | mathias64 : oh yes .. all the sdcfoo you can think off .. piles of them |
| 06:19.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : see http://pastebin.com/448016 line 5 |
| 06:19.53 | mathias64 | dclarke: huh! |
| 06:20.05 | mathias64 | does it show up under ls / |
| 06:20.11 | dclarke | mathias64 : see http://pastebin.com/448016 <<-- yeah .. weird |
| 06:20.22 | dclarke | mathias64 : the file is there |
| 06:20.45 | DA_ | karsten, force-things didnt help :( can i just manuall remove the files and remove the entries from dpkg so that it doesnt know about the package at all? |
| 06:21.10 | mathias64 | dclarke: I am stumped. |
| 06:21.24 | dclarke | mathias64 : I have a theory |
| 06:21.32 | mathias64 | dclarke: go ahead |
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| 06:21.42 | dclarke | mathias64 : the file being loaded is from /dev/sdc1 not /dev/sdc2 |
| 06:21.59 | dclarke | mathias64 : these are copies that we have in /dev/sdc2 |
| 06:22.10 | kingsley | I improved my estimation of #debian's productivity at http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc by considering "yes"es, "ok"s and floods. |
| 06:22.14 | dclarke | mathias64 : that file was always found before .. now its not with a new name |
| 06:22.42 | mathias64 | but when you type 'ls /' at the boot prompt right now you see /usr? |
| 06:22.50 | dclarke | mathias64 : the bootloader process is looking in /dev/sdc1 ( the /boot ) area instead .. this is why my |
| 06:23.13 | dclarke | mathias64 : attempt to load the non-compressed file works .. generates a cramfs error |
| 06:23.32 | dclarke | mathias64 : its my guess .. |
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| 06:23.59 | tonberry | stdoubt: didn't work... that, I suspect, would have been way too simple. |
| 06:24.05 | dclarke | mathias64 : the partition offset number in silo.conf is a problem perhaps ? that a red herring |
| 06:24.17 | stdoubt | tonberry: so what happens now during boot? |
| 06:24.17 | cddesjar | kingsley: boy dpkg has been a bad and unproductive bot |
| 06:24.19 | dclarke | nice situation after a fresh install huh ? |
| 06:24.36 | DA_ | where does dpkg keep its list of packages that are installed, removed, held back, etc? |
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| 06:24.59 | bou1 | seems like when some cryptographic module are compiled in-kernel, they cannot be used by out-of-kernel-tree modules, is this normal ? |
| 06:24.59 | bou1 | or I am trying too hard to understand things and I should go to sleep ... |
| 06:25.04 | bou1 | ok anyway I wanted to thx liable and amphi for the help earlier. |
| 06:25.05 | mathias64 | dclarke: can I get you to log back into the cdrom, mount /boot, and chroot again? |
| 06:25.06 | bou1 | bye |
| 06:25.30 | dclarke | mathias64 : to compress the initrd file in /boot ? |
| 06:25.40 | mathias64 | that, and I want to try looking inside it |
| 06:25.41 | dclarke | mathias64 : this is my guess |
| 06:25.58 | dclarke | mathias64 : okay .. cool .. one more time then :-) |
| 06:26.04 | DA_ | ~tell me about dpkg |
| 06:26.33 | kevix | DA_: look in /var/lib/dpkg |
| 06:26.41 | tonberry | stdoubt: mainboard bootscreen, then the grub OS selecting thing, and then boot to debian or win as normal. when I tuped in the command you gave me, it just sait something like "invalid command: sudo" or something. Tried a few variations, didn't work... |
| 06:26.54 | DA_ | kevix, thanks, will do |
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| 06:27.39 | dclarke | mathias64 : this will take some time ... |
| 06:27.45 | mathias64 | dclarke: sure |
| 06:28.03 | stdoubt | tonberry: do you remember the root password? if so, you can omit "sudo" from that command and it should work. As long as you're root, just "apt-get remove grub" will do it |
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| 06:28.25 | |ryan| | dpkg, partimage |
| 06:28.52 | mathias64 | dclarke: let me know when you have the chroot installed |
| 06:29.20 | tonberry | stdoubt: hmm, I didn't try being root... but I tried excluding sudo from the command. Do you think it will work in root? |
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| 06:29.46 | stdoubt | tonberry: when you tried it without sudo what happened? |
| 06:29.57 | dclarke | mathias64 : I'm going to try boot: rescue |
| 06:30.10 | dclarke | mathias64 : perhaps that will be faster |
| 06:30.18 | mathias64 | dclarke: ok |
| 06:30.19 | tonberry | stdoubt: it sait that grub was invalid something. |
| 06:30.27 | |ryan| | Does anyone know why patimage is not in sarge or testing? |
| 06:30.44 | stdoubt | tonberry: to gain root access type su - <enter> then it will ask for root passwd |
| 06:30.52 | rvalles | hdparm, which package is it in? |
| 06:31.08 | tonberry | stdoubt: is that the same as typing root as login name? |
| 06:31.11 | streuner | |ryan|: did you look at the developer info (pdo) yet? |
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| 06:31.42 | stdoubt | tonberry: yes su with the "-" gives true root PATH |
| 06:31.56 | Varak | I'm trying to install Expat.xs:12:19: expat.h: No such file or directory |
| 06:32.02 | stdoubt | so same access to all functions |
| 06:32.05 | Varak | er xmlparser |
| 06:32.13 | kevix | |ryan|: its in 'hdparm' |
| 06:32.16 | dclarke | mathias64 : "boot: rescue" from the CDROM results in "Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on 00:00" .. bloody amazing |
| 06:32.20 | Varak | how do i find what package has expat.h |
| 06:32.24 | tonberry | stdoubt: er... didn't quite grasp that, but I'll try if you think it'll work. |
| 06:32.36 | mathias64 | dclarke: you almost certainly have to give a root= argument to the rescue option |
| 06:32.51 | Varak | or rather, which package to intall that will ge me expat.h |
| 06:32.52 | rvalles | hdparm, which package is it in? |
| 06:32.55 | stdoubt | tonberry: didn't grasp what exactly? better do it right |
| 06:33.02 | rvalles | hm, kevix |
| 06:33.03 | dclarke | mathias64 : oops |
| 06:33.06 | rvalles | no hdparm package here |
| 06:33.12 | rvalles | using unstable |
| 06:33.13 | streuner | |ryan|: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 06:33.14 | kevix | Varak: if its on your system, use dpkg -S expat.h, otherwise use packages.debian.org search function. |
| 06:33.24 | Varak | ok thanks |
| 06:33.33 | tonberry | stdoubt: don't know what true root path is |
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| 06:34.19 | stdoubt | tonberry: login as normal user -> type su - -> hit enter -> give password -> then run: apt-get remove grub |
| 06:34.29 | stdoubt | "su -" |
| 06:34.56 | tonberry | stdoubt: in other words: I dont need to understand it :p but ok, I'll give it a shot. Again, thanks a bundle! |
| 06:35.02 | k-dog | kevix: ... I'm karsten, from another box. |
| 06:35.07 | stdoubt | YW hehe |
| 06:35.11 | tonberry | stdoubt: heh |
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| 06:35.19 | k-dog | kevix: ... lost the screen session, managed to disconnect it. |
| 06:35.37 | k-dog | kevix: ... so I'll have to drive over and kick the thing. Thanks anyway. |
| 06:36.11 | k-dog | DA_: Yeah, you can manually tweak your configs then edit the dpkg status file. Be careful doing that. |
| 06:36.45 | kevix | k-dog: just read some sysadmin faq at digg.com-- one rule: reboot fixes most probs! x-) |
| 06:36.53 | |ryan| | streuner: where can i find that info? |
| 06:36.58 | DA_ | k-dog, oh i know lol, just need to tell dpkg that these packages dont exist (they contain many problems) and ill remove their files manually, not a prob |
| 06:37.22 | streuner | |ryan|: nevermind, just use /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 06:37.44 | puff | touch: cannot touch `foo.txt': Read-only file system |
| 06:37.57 | puff | This disk should not be read-only... just suddenly started getting this. |
| 06:38.18 | EdLin | puff: check your logs, errors can cause a disk to be remounted r/o |
| 06:38.28 | puff | Ah... |
| 06:38.32 | kevix | puff: check 'mount'. if /etc/fstab has rule to mount ro if errors. |
| 06:38.45 | k-dog | kevix: Strewth. |
| 06:38.53 | EdLin | !kevix |
| 06:38.56 | k-dog | DA_: Right. |
| 06:38.56 | EdLin | !kevix++ |
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| 06:39.02 | EdLin | oops |
| 06:39.15 | k-dog | EdLin: You can oops, but don't panic! |
| 06:39.24 | EdLin | k-dog: heh |
| 06:40.09 | kevix | where is your towel at! |
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| 06:40.38 | EdLin | I was using it to try to capture the babelfish |
| 06:40.59 | rvalles | kevix: it was an encoding problem after all |
| 06:41.22 | tonberry | stdoubt: nope... it seemed to uninstall it, but when I booted, grub popped up as usual |
| 06:41.23 | rvalles | kevix: invisible but meaningful character got inside the "hdparm" string somehow. |
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| 06:42.02 | kevix | rvalles: ohhhhh. |
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| 06:42.23 | dondelelcaro | does anyone know if it's possible for ssl certs to have multiple signatures? |
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| 06:42.36 | kevix | EdLin: the movie did come out recently. and now the infocom game in on-line. |
| 06:42.36 | pmd | hi everyone |
| 06:42.43 | dusk | hi |
| 06:42.50 | pmd | I'm trying to make a bootable cdrom image with mkisofs |
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| 06:43.18 | dclarke | mathias64 : sh-2.05b# |
| 06:43.18 | neil | I have two computers on a LAN only one has a screen, I use ssh to control the other. Is there anyway I can start a process, but have it continue after I close the ssh conection. |
| 06:43.29 | pmd | mkisofs -o cd.iso /media/freeduc-primaire-1_5-rc3/ |
| 06:43.34 | DA_ | neil, use screen |
| 06:43.42 | rvalles | kevix: idectl doesn't come in the hdparm package, it seems, tho |
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| 06:43.45 | pmd | it works, but it isn't bootable |
| 06:43.52 | rvalles | kevix: do you happen to know where is it? |
| 06:43.55 | pmd | it says to use -G in the manpage |
| 06:43.59 | EdLin | kevix: Douglas Adams' website (at least when he was alive) had a Java applet of it. |
| 06:44.06 | pmd | but it doesn't actually work |
| 06:44.14 | pmd | any ideas :-) |
| 06:44.15 | neil | DA_: what do you mean is screen a program? |
| 06:44.16 | kevix | neil: 'nohup' may work. |
| 06:44.31 | DA_ | neil, yep, man screen |
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| 06:45.08 | DA_ | neil, start it with... screen <program> then ctrl+a, d detaches (it keeps running) then when you want it back type screen -r to re-attach |
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| 06:45.28 | kevix | neil: to some folks, 'screen' is more that a program, its a way of life! |
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| 06:45.38 | CountZ | can I use hosts.deny in debian to block a certain ip range from reaching apache? |
| 06:45.51 | DA_ | neil, its really necessary to read the screen man page because screen has a lot of very advanced things you can do with it |
| 06:46.02 | dclarke | mathias64 : sh-2.05b# |
| 06:46.07 | k-dog | CountZ: man hosts.deny. Yes. |
| 06:46.09 | DA_ | kevix, i couldnt agree more with that statement |
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| 06:46.15 | tonberry | stdoubt: any good ideas? |
| 06:46.16 | mathias64 | dclarke: are you in the chroot? |
| 06:46.16 | CountZ | k-dog: thanks |
| 06:46.29 | dclarke | mathias64 : yep |
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| 06:46.47 | mathias64 | OK. cat /proc/filesystems and see if cramfs is in there |
| 06:46.49 | dclarke | mathias64 : for the sake of it I : cp -p initrd.img-2.4.27-2-sparc32-smp.gz /boot/ |
| 06:46.56 | k-dog | CountZ: ... though I'd use iptables myself. There's a number of points at which you can control that sort of thing these days, including apache. |
| 06:46.59 | mathias64 | dclarke: sounds good |
| 06:47.07 | rvalles | once you get used to gnu screen, there's no turning back |
| 06:47.08 | k-dog | CountZ: ... Hrm. Is apache compiled w/ tcpwrappers? |
| 06:47.12 | rvalles | life is impossible without it! |
| 06:47.19 | dclarke | mathias64 : there is nothing in /proc |
| 06:47.38 | CountZ | k-dog: it's the standard debian apache package |
| 06:47.49 | mathias64 | mount -t proc proc /proc |
| 06:47.51 | dclarke | mathias64 : total 0 |
| 06:47.53 | kevix | dclarke: is /proc mounted? |
| 06:47.56 | k-dog | CountZ: apache or apache2? |
| 06:48.00 | stdoubt | tonberry: i'm about out of ideas -if you can't recover that partition under windows and format it, well, dang |
| 06:48.01 | pmd | this is from the docs: |
| 06:48.06 | pmd | mkisofs -r -b boot/boot.img -c boot/boot.catalog -o bootcd.iso . |
| 06:48.07 | CountZ | k-dog: apache |
| 06:48.08 | dclarke | mathias64 : just a sec |
| 06:48.19 | pmd | where do i find a boot image on a cd? |
| 06:48.23 | jbmigel_ | anyone know if the current stable gatos package supports 9600 cards? |
| 06:48.24 | CountZ | k-dog: later today i'll activate my firewall, still working on the policy... |
| 06:48.26 | pmd | and what is a catalog? |
| 06:49.01 | dclarke | -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 Dec 4 06:42 /proc/filesystems |
| 06:49.16 | dclarke | nothing in /proc/filesystems |
| 06:49.16 | mathias64 | dclarke: cat /proc/filesystems and see if cramfs is in there |
| 06:49.18 | pmd | basically, I thought it would be easy to create a bootable image (iso) from a bootable cd |
| 06:49.20 | mathias64 | nothing! |
| 06:49.24 | mathias64 | wow |
| 06:49.34 | streuner | jbmigel: changelog should mention it... |
| 06:49.35 | stdoubt | tonberry: you might check the state of grub's installation with "dpkg --status grub" and see if it's really been uninstalled -you might also try "dpkg --purge grub" |
| 06:49.39 | k-dog | dclarke: /proc files appear as zero bytes to 'ls', even when they contain something. |
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| 06:49.52 | k-dog | dclarke: cat /proc/filesystems to see what's there. |
| 06:50.01 | dclarke | mathias64 : sorry .. like I said .. I'm not much of a Linux guy |
| 06:50.01 | kevix | dclarke: its gmt -5 here, go you must be in the UK ! x-) |
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| 06:50.10 | dclarke | mathias64 : yep .. its there |
| 06:50.14 | tonberry | stdoubt: hmm, well, I thought that maybe if I could edit the boot file on my win, and remove the piece of script that tells the pc to load grub on boot.... |
| 06:50.19 | mathias64 | proc is definitely not a solaris thing |
| 06:50.32 | dclarke | mathias64 : no .. never saw it before |
| 06:50.34 | k-dog | dclarke: Standard shell tools (cat, grep, wc, etc.) work w/ /proc files. |
| 06:50.46 | k-dog | mathias64: I think they're similarly inspired, actually. |
| 06:51.09 | neil | DA_: Installing 'screen' now |
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| 06:51.15 | puff | kevix: check mount means? |
| 06:51.17 | stdoubt | tonberry: i have no experience with that -suprized to learn windows has an entry for grub in ANY file - |
| 06:51.23 | mathias64 | dclarke: try this. cd /boot && mkdir t && mount -o loop -t cramfs initrd.img t |
| 06:51.26 | dclarke | mathias64 : in any case .. its there |
| 06:51.28 | puff | kevix: i.e. run "mount" with no arguments from the shell? |
| 06:51.30 | kevix | mathias64: is dclarke in 'single' runlevel? |
| 06:51.41 | kevix | puff: yes. |
| 06:52.13 | mathias64 | kevix: no, he shouldn't be. he's using an install cd to get a shell |
| 06:52.14 | dclarke | mount: Could not find any loop device. Maybe this kernel does not know |
| 06:52.19 | dclarke | about the loop device? (If so, recompile or `modprobe loop'.) |
| 06:52.34 | DA_ | neil, good boy :) if you just want to touch on screen's man page for now thats cool, but you may find it more useful than you could imagine basically all you need to know is how to detach it and how to reattach it unless you want to use it for more than just 'backgrounding a program' |
| 06:52.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: it's ok. can you run losetup -v ? |
| 06:52.36 | tonberry | stdoubt: debian installer put it there... or, it prompted me to install grub and put a parameter somewhere in a boot file on my win drive so that grub loads on boot... or at least that what I think it does.. |
| 06:52.39 | dclarke | modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-sparc32/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 06:53.00 | *** mode/#Debian [+l 726] by debhelper |
| 06:53.07 | dclarke | that gave ,e a usage warning |
| 06:53.09 | puff | kevix: http://pastebin.com/448038 |
| 06:53.28 | puff | mount seems to think everything is rw. |
| 06:53.52 | dclarke | that gave me a "usage" warning |
| 06:54.12 | tonberry | stdoubt: also, I don't like messing around too much with system files when I haven't got a clue about what I'm doing... |
| 06:54.14 | mathias64 | dclarke: try losetup -f |
| 06:54.29 | puff | kevix: /var/log/syslog | fgrep -v named | fgrep -v postfix --> http://pastebin.com/448039 |
| 06:54.35 | kevix | puff: what directory where you in when this happened |
| 06:54.36 | dclarke | losetup: Could not find any loop device. Maybe this kernel does not know |
| 06:54.42 | stdoubt | tonberry: do you remember where you installed grub? (i.e., MBR or root partition) |
| 06:54.44 | dclarke | about the loop device? (If so, recompile or `modprobe loop'.) |
| 06:54.54 | mathias64 | dclarke: very likely it doesn't know. try 'modprobe loop' |
| 06:54.54 | streuner | jbmigel: did you look in /usr/share/doc/gatos/README.debian too? |
| 06:54.59 | puff | Hm... Dec 4 01:00:42 localhost kernel: hda: status timeout: status=0x80 { Busy } |
| 06:55.16 | puff | kevix: I first noticed it from my mutt session, when I went to send a message. |
| 06:55.16 | tonberry | stdoubt: root on the partition I made for debian, I think. |
| 06:55.21 | dclarke | modprobe: Can't open dependencies file /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-sparc32/modules.dep (No such file or directory) |
| 06:55.30 | mathias64 | run depmod |
| 06:55.32 | dclarke | sheesh .. nothing works |
| 06:55.33 | puff | kevix: then I spawned another screen and tried to create a file in my home directory. |
| 06:55.34 | tonberry | stdoubt: no wait |
| 06:55.44 | dclarke | depmod: Can't open /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-sparc32/modules.dep for writing |
| 06:56.17 | puff | hm. |
| 06:56.17 | tonberry | stdoubt: sorry, thought you meant debian. I don't know where grub was installed. the installer thing never told me.... |
| 06:56.35 | mathias64 | dclarke: well, i am running out of ideas. since you put the gzipped initrd into /boot, let's try rebotting and see if that works. |
| 06:56.40 | Bogaurd | can anyone give me a hand with my syslog? its completley fooked, iptables isnt logging anything anymore =\ |
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| 06:56.48 | jbmigel_ | streuner no i havent installed the package yet, im not sure what it will do to my proprietary ATI drivers and xfree yet... just starting some research to see if i should bother |
| 06:56.55 | dclarke | 2AM .. falling over asleept now .. |
| 06:57.02 | mathias64 | dclarke: me too |
| 06:57.10 | kevix | puff: still reading. something about mailman commands not found... |
| 06:57.16 | tonberry | it's 8am here |
| 06:57.33 | dclarke | mathias64 : you better drop me an email |
| 06:57.50 | puff | Ah-hah... Dec 3 23:30:17 localhost kernel: ide0: reset: success |
| 06:57.52 | stdoubt | tonberry: hmmm - i still think your best bet is to get windows to recover that space by fdisking and formatting it. If "dpkg --purge grub" (as root) doesn't work -then I'm stumped |
| 06:58.09 | kevix | puff: still reading. on 2005-12-04 hard drive errors. |
| 06:58.12 | dclarke | mathias64 : put you on my mailing list for DVD's and software freebies |
| 06:58.16 | puff | kevix: i think that's normal, when I upgraded mailman last year I started getting those. |
| 06:58.19 | dusk | hey, how do I get stuff out of my gnome "start menu" :D |
| 06:58.24 | Bogaurd | well, if nobody can help me, can someone using sarge at least send me a copy of their /etc/syslog file? |
| 06:58.27 | Bogaurd | erm |
| 06:58.29 | puff | kevix: or at least not-related... |
| 06:58.32 | dusk | quake3 installed a shortcut into "other" and i want it GONE |
| 06:58.34 | Bogaurd | '/etc/syslog.conf |
| 06:58.39 | vulture | "DVDs" man. |
| 06:58.40 | vulture | :) |
| 06:58.57 | puff | kevix: lines 217-220 seem to be it... |
| 06:58.59 | kevix | puff: still reading. sounds like hda/hda3 is not well x-) |
| 06:59.10 | streuner | jbmigel_: well, you could just download the package itself and use 'mc' to look at the docs |
| 06:59.41 | puff | kevix: goddamn... |
| 06:59.42 | neil | DA_: screen doesn't seem to do what I want. I used 'screen <program>', <ctrl>a, then exited the ssh session, but the program didn't keep running. |
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| 06:59.55 | dclarke | one last boot |
| 07:00.04 | puff | kevix: I really need to buy a new colobox, the hardware this is running on is so old and decrepet. |
| 07:00.08 | tonberry | stdoubt: _I'll try the purge grub thing. but do you mean formatting the drive debian is on? that doesn't work, I've allready done it twice. the problem lies somewhere in the boot sequence on the win drive, I'm absolutely sure about that. |
| 07:00.18 | kevix | puff, it'd look to make a backup quick if not sooner. time for a new hd, unless its just the one partitions. |
| 07:00.23 | puff | I wish it had USB, I'd go down and back it up right now. |
| 07:00.30 | puff | hm. |
| 07:00.36 | dclarke | this has been the most amazingly stubborn Linux install ever .. and I have only done a few |
| 07:00.37 | puff | Crap... |
| 07:00.43 | puff | Crap crap crap. |
| 07:00.48 | puff | How soon is soon? |
| 07:00.52 | kevix | puff: rule #1 data is worth more than hardware! |
| 07:00.57 | puff | i.e. can i wait until tomorrow afternoon? |
| 07:00.59 | TwistedEmotions | Question guys... my ISP has put in a bandwidth shaper box... and it's limiting my downloads of p2p and preety much anything except web to 8k/sec... is there anyways to get around this? |
| 07:01.08 | puff | or rather, how stupid is it to wait until tomorrow afternoon? |
| 07:01.16 | EdLin | neil: "control-a d" to detach, "screen -x" to re-attach |
| 07:01.37 | stdoubt | tonberry: no expert here, but if your boot.ini uses "#" for comment lines it should be safe to comment out the grub references... |
| 07:01.41 | CountZ | I see stuff like this in my global apache error.log: sh: ./index: No such file or directory |
| 07:01.48 | CountZ | somebody is somehow managing to run /bin/sh |
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| 07:01.59 | TwistedEmotions | IT's a funking T-1 line too.. and they limit it to 8k/sec.. rediculous.. |
| 07:02.15 | jbmigel_ | get a real isp |
| 07:02.30 | TwistedEmotions | jbmigel_ Im giving them till tuesday then switching.. |
| 07:02.33 | kevix | puff, it depends on the cost to you- if the machine is down 1 min or 1 hour or 1 day, what will be the cost: personal issue , business related or job related. |
| 07:02.39 | EdLin | TwistedEmotions: I think there's something called tunneling that ssh can do, I don't know how to - but it can be done. |
| 07:03.00 | TwistedEmotions | ssh tunneling for p2p networks? |
| 07:03.03 | neil | DA_: sorry my mistake it is doing what I want, thanks a lot. |
| 07:03.07 | varsendagger | hey i can't get my network working my system. my system said somehting aobut reconfiguring a package, any ideas? |
| 07:03.16 | puff | kevix: I'm more worried abouut data... this is a personal colo, buncha friends data on it, that's the primary worry. |
| 07:03.16 | varsendagger | i have no idea what package |
| 07:03.17 | puff | Hm. |
| 07:03.23 | DA_ | neil, you use ctrl+a then type the letter d to detach, screen will notify you when its been detached |
| 07:03.25 | TwistedEmotions | I was thinking perhaps if I used TOR..? They wouldnt traffic go through port 80? |
| 07:03.27 | puff | I wonder if there's a spare network connection down there. |
| 07:03.30 | DA_ | neil, k good to hear |
| 07:03.42 | TwistedEmotions | *Then |
| 07:04.06 | dusk | how can I customize the gnome panel? (start menu) |
| 07:04.12 | puff | kevix: so, somebody elsewhere sugested "mount -o remount, rw" |
| 07:05.23 | kevix | puff: its best to stop all thing first. then try it. but you said 'mount' showed every rw? |
| 07:05.25 | puff | kevix: a) is this sane, b) do you think I'm gambling my data if I wait until tomororw 9i.e. is it the sort of thing that will likely degenerate to collapse within hours, or is it more of a days thing? |
| 07:05.36 | puff | kevix: http://pastebin.com/448038 |
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| 07:05.45 | puff | output from mount, also /etc/fstb |
| 07:05.49 | puff | /etc/fstab. |
| 07:06.01 | i3dmaster | what's the module name for usb cdrom? |
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| 07:06.59 | CWX_19^_^ | hiiiiiiii |
| 07:07.14 | kevix | puff, at least get '/etc' and the output from 'dpkg --get-selections' and where ever your data it. |
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| 07:07.37 | xevious | hiya |
| 07:07.40 | kevix | puff: is it in /home or /mcgee or in /var/www ? |
| 07:07.44 | puff | kevix: sounds like a plan... except i can't create a tar file on this disk wihtout write. |
| 07:08.13 | xevious | when first installing testing, what's the command that's run which asks all the questions about setting up xorg? (meaning what's the PCI address for your graphics card, etc) |
| 07:08.35 | xevious | it says use lspci to get it at the time but at that point lspci isn't installed |
| 07:09.09 | xevious | i just need to rerun it and enter it |
| 07:09.09 | kevix | puff, you have hda3 and hda5, one may have probs, not both from the output. does hda5 have room for a tar? |
| 07:09.23 | xevious | and is there a less equivalent installed by default or should i install less? |
| 07:09.27 | EdLin | !drxx xevious |
| 07:09.28 | dpkg | xevious: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:09.35 | xevious | thanks |
| 07:09.44 | EdLin | xevious: x-window-system-core installs less |
| 07:09.46 | tonberry | stdoubt: you there? |
| 07:09.53 | stdoubt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:10.01 | CountZ | I guess there's a new rootkit out there that nobody knows about |
| 07:10.01 | kevix | xevious: less, more and most |
| 07:10.04 | CountZ | something called Tr0x |
| 07:10.40 | kevix | CountZ: maybe a new sony cd x-) |
| 07:10.50 | CountZ | ;-) |
| 07:10.57 | tonberry | stdoubt: my boot.ini doesn't say anything about grub as far as I can see... |
| 07:10.59 | CountZ | on a linux box?! |
| 07:11.02 | CountZ | ;-) |
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| 07:11.35 | dclarke | yep .. I give up |
| 07:11.38 | stdoubt | tonberry: not surprized by that ... hmm |
| 07:11.50 | dclarke | I am going to reinstall on this Sun box .. from scratch |
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| 07:12.42 | kevix | dclarke: sounds like you need to find a local lug or join a debian-sparc mailing list. |
| 07:12.44 | puff | kevix: /dev/hda5 is mounted on /home; cd /home, touch foo, get the same error. |
| 07:13.04 | dclarke | or give up |
| 07:13.07 | stdoubt | tonberry: you might ask on a windows channel: i think "fdisk /MBR" at a windows command line might solve this but don't know how safe that is... |
| 07:13.09 | CountZ | how do I output all arguments passed into a shell script in one go? |
| 07:13.25 | CountZ | ${}? |
| 07:13.33 | puff | kevix: /dev/hda3 is mounted on /; cd /, touch foo, smae error. |
| 07:13.39 | dclarke | the very idea, that a user can install an OS and then not be able to boot .. is amazing |
| 07:13.40 | CountZ | or is it $$ |
| 07:14.03 | CountZ | ah... $* |
| 07:14.06 | kevix | puff: ugh! how may MB is your personal data file minus any debian files. |
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| 07:15.05 | tonberry | stdoubt: yeah, maybe I should find a windows channel. what does fdisk /mbr do? |
| 07:15.17 | lemur | what package is it that contains perl's geoipfree module? |
| 07:15.31 | stdoubt | tonberry: as i recall it replaces your master boot record with a fresh one... |
| 07:15.43 | kevix | tonberry: it redoes the master boot record, erasing say grub or lilo. |
| 07:15.52 | CountZ | lemur: geoip-bin |
| 07:16.05 | CountZ | lemur: or maybe you mean libgeoip1 |
| 07:16.36 | tonberry | stdoubt: well, I'm on a lanparty now, so there's plenty of win people and ditto install discs to help me of that doesn't work... |
| 07:17.05 | puff | kevix: too many for easy backup. I've got a 250GB usb drive (LaCie), mostly empty., but that box doesn't have USB. |
| 07:17.13 | stdoubt | tonberry: k -good luck on it |
| 07:17.35 | tonberry | stdoubt: hehe... I think I'll ask someone here about it first.... |
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| 07:17.53 | puff | kevix: What I'm thinking at this point is, assuming this is not stupidly dangeorus, leave it alone until tomorrow afternon, take the LaCie and my laptop in, find a network cable, and figure out some way to pull the data across the local network link to the lacie drive. |
| 07:17.54 | stdoubt | tonberry: by all meanse |
| 07:17.57 | stdoubt | means |
| 07:18.54 | xevious | ok |
| 07:19.01 | xevious | something seriously wrong with my X config :D |
| 07:19.04 | xevious | stupid old laptop |
| 07:19.15 | kevix | puff, I'd stop every process on the box(apache,etc) and then go to the computer site, bring a knoppix live cd, boot it, then use dd to copy the hd to a new one, so as to have a backup and then try to recover/backup the files. |
| 07:19.27 | puff | kevix: Stop it now? |
| 07:19.35 | puff | kevix: Or wait until tomorrow afternoon? |
| 07:19.38 | tonberry | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:19.38 | tonberry | * rafx has joined #debian |
| 07:19.52 | darkness_ | Anyone here use webmin? |
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| 07:19.58 | tonberry | stdoubt: okay, here goes.... |
| 07:20.00 | dclarke | why does the installer not see all my ethernet interfaces ? |
| 07:20.08 | mhall | !smite ooo command-line PDF export |
| 07:20.31 | Guerin | mhall: s/Microsoft/Adobe/ |
| 07:20.39 | kevix | puff: I'm not a computer expert, but the more you use a box, the more change to increse the hd damage. if you can stop all process and no one will miss the box for a day, I'd do it. |
| 07:20.42 | mhall | Guerin: ;-) |
| 07:20.47 | puff | kevix: stop all superfluous processes, bring knoppix live CD and new harddrive, boot under knoppix, use dd? |
| 07:21.04 | DA_ | ~anyone use |
| 07:21.15 | mhall | How the fuck can I export OOO PDFs from CLI in OOo 2? The usual shit macros all cock it up in 2. |
| 07:21.27 | DA_ | bleh |
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| 07:22.08 | DA_ | ~tell darkness_ about ask |
| 07:22.27 | Bogaurd | anyone have any idea why my iptables logs are seemingly vanishing into thin air? |
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| 07:22.45 | darkness_ | DA_ :-) |
| 07:22.55 | kevix | puff: well, the hd is,iiuc, not good. so booting with a live cd, will not damage the hd will you try to get data off it as much as trying to use the hd while you get the data off it. |
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| 07:23.13 | xevious | default runlevel is 2? |
| 07:23.41 | DA_ | darkness_, heh, if you have a question about webmin go ahead and ask it otherwise dont waste your time asking if anyone uses it :p |
| 07:24.07 | kevix | mhall: you cant edit pdf(at least not by mere mortals) |
| 07:24.16 | puff | kevix: Yeahh, thanks for the advice... since this irc session is running in this same machine, i'll be disco'ing now :-). |
| 07:24.17 | mhall | kevix: *export* PDF |
| 07:24.20 | DA_ | xevious, should be 3 afaik |
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| 07:24.54 | xevious | if i run the `runlevel` command it says "N 2" |
| 07:25.02 | mhall | kevix: reason being i don't have a printer and all of the systems around that can print are .edu systems onto which koffice / ooo 2.x cannot be installed to read OASIS documents |
| 07:25.06 | darkness_ | I've installed shorewall and webmin hopefully to use a gui for iptables. Now i get the error, "permission denied", when trying to login to https://myhost.10000/ |
| 07:25.08 | kevix | mhall: you mean using a ooo doc, on the cli, create a pdf? |
| 07:25.23 | mhall | kevix: yes! ooo 2 doc to pdf on cli |
| 07:25.40 | mhall | kevix: reason is i often leave my room without remembering to pdfificate my document |
| 07:25.41 | xevious | i have no time to fiddle with this tonight. |
| 07:25.52 | DA_ | xevious, this is how i remember it from way back when: 1 single user, 2 multi user, 3 multi user with network, 4 dunno 5 going down, 6 uhhh dunno again lol thats to the best of my knowledge keep in mind |
| 07:25.54 | mhall | kevix: then i end up 20 minutes away with 10 minutes to spare and can't print |
| 07:25.55 | kevix | mhall: well, not an answer, but ooo docs are gzip'd xml. |
| 07:26.03 | puff | kevix: Again, thanks, and wish me luck. |
| 07:26.35 | kevix | puff: my finger are crossed, saying a prayer to st. ignutius. |
| 07:26.49 | DA_ | xevious, youre logging in to yourhost:10000 from yourhost correct? |
| 07:27.08 | DA_ | oops |
| 07:27.13 | xevious | i had issues with pcmcia on 2.6 (the same ones i had on mandrake), so i had to install testing with 2.4. is it going to be drop-in-the-new-kernel simple, or more involved, to update to 2.6? |
| 07:27.15 | DA_ | sorry not xevious that was too darkness_ |
| 07:27.22 | DA_ | to* |
| 07:27.24 | darkness_ | Yes DA_ |
| 07:27.32 | DA_ | !lart me |
| 07:28.04 | xevious | that last question was just in regards to the software upgrade, not fixing my pcmcia troubles |
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| 07:28.25 | kevix | mhall: just a stab in the dark: use ooo2dbk (ooo to docbook) then go from there? |
| 07:28.52 | DA_ | darkness_, try localhost:10000? |
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| 07:29.52 | darkness_ | DA_ Weeeeeeeeeee |
| 07:30.19 | DA_ | darkness_, cool beans |
| 07:30.20 | darkness_ | btw DA_, is the passwd copied from my deb root /etc/shadow ? |
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| 07:30.53 | kevix | darkness_: why would it COPY /etc/shadow, rather than USE it? |
| 07:30.59 | DA_ | darkness_, root's password on webmin is the same as root's password but as far as your question i couldnt say, id assume so however yes |
| 07:31.20 | DA_ | darkness_, kevix^^ |
| 07:32.05 | neil | kevix: webmin can have different users/passwords than the linux its running on. |
| 07:32.23 | DA_ | yea it does keep its own user list |
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| 07:33.01 | kevix | neil: I haven't used webmin in a while. does it default to /etc/shadow or do you set it at install time? |
| 07:33.44 | xevious | thanks folks |
| 07:33.57 | xevious | hopefully i'll be able to figure out my X woes tomorrow after work |
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| 07:34.09 | xevious | and my 2.6 woes. |
| 07:34.12 | neil | kevix: at install time it copies the root password, then install you can choose to keep webmins and linux user list in sync if you use webmins user admin page. |
| 07:34.27 | xevious | old dell laptop that has some funkiness with pcmcia for some reason. |
| 07:34.41 | kevix | neil: thanks for the info x-) |
| 07:34.53 | neil | kevix: this also goes with other user lists like those used for postgresql. |
| 07:35.21 | darkness_ | ooops, i've had too many autentication failures trying to access webmin and i'm block out :-( |
| 07:35.32 | kevix | puff: is it in /home or /mcgee or in /var/www ? |
| 07:35.53 | darkness_ | I would imagine webmin would use your username and root passwd to login? |
| 07:36.03 | tst_ | I have a question about advanced package management. I hope there are still people in Debian able to answer this. |
| 07:36.15 | tst_ | How can I pin a package to a specific version? Let's say I change something in package 'tree', rebuild it. How can I stop apt-get upgrade from ever replacing it with the stock version? |
| 07:36.31 | neil | darkness: the main login is 'root' with roots passwd. |
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| 07:36.49 | darkness_ | Oh. |
| 07:37.00 | kevix | tst_: the easiest way is to use '=' in aptitude. |
| 07:37.55 | tst_ | kevix: will I have to learn to use aptitude? How is that easy? I never used it. |
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| 07:39.15 | kevix | tst_: its takes a little getting use to but always remember 'q' for quit and 'esc' and most thing are ok. |
| 07:39.40 | darkness_ | neil, becasue of three autentication failures i'm being denied access to 192.168.0.2. Any idea how to reset this? |
| 07:39.41 | kevix | tst_: reading a man page can help, or just ask folks here. |
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| 07:40.10 | neil | darkness: no idea. |
| 07:40.36 | kevix | tst_: you basically fire up aptitude, use '/' like in vi to search for the package, when found hit '=' to hold the package, then quit. |
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| 07:41.17 | tst_ | kevix: thanks, I'll try |
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| 07:42.40 | neil | darkness_: can you use localhost:10000 |
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| 07:44.26 | kevix | does a hold done in aptitude = a hold done in apt |
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| 07:45.21 | Guerin | kevix: no |
| 07:45.33 | neil | darkness_: there is a #webmin maybe you could get an answer there (if anyone is listening) |
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| 07:47.36 | kevix | Guerin: would it not be a wishlist bug for apt hold=aptitude hold? |
| 07:48.17 | Guerin | kevix: it's a design decision, i think |
| 07:49.14 | kevix | Guerin: so if you hold it aptitdue, you must use aptitidue for the hold to work? that seems counterintuative. |
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| 07:52.34 | darkness_ | Neil: Since i've just installed webmin, mabe uninstalling and reinstall is mabe the easiest solution? |
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| 07:53.36 | neil | darkness_: I did a google someone else had this problem, he said after a while it unblocked automatically. |
| 07:53.48 | Guerin | kevix: if you use aptitude, you shouldn't use apt-get |
| 07:53.53 | Guerin | kevix: pick one and stick with it |
| 07:54.02 | darkness_ | Neil: cool. |
| 07:54.05 | Guerin | kevix: they have other complicated interactions as well - check the BTS |
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| 07:55.18 | paivakil | should the initrd.img be rebuilt if the device on which the / partition is changed? |
| 07:55.37 | kevix | Guerin: IMO apt,dpkg,aptiude,synatpic, should share state files but allow for extented attributes. |
| 07:55.59 | kevix | Guerin: or ... a hold is a hold is a hold... |
| 07:56.14 | aeronadix | how do I view my classpath? |
| 07:56.30 | Guerin | kevix: they should, but due to the fact that apt-get is a legacy, proof-of-concept app, and was never intended to be a production package management solution, it's not so |
| 07:57.18 | kevix | Guerin: funny how PoC things last beyond their intened life.. x-) |
| 07:57.43 | Guerin | kevix: if it had been crap, someone would have made aptitude straight away ... but it wasn't, so nobody could be arsed :) |
| 07:58.03 | omry|work | anyone knows why lyx is not in testing? |
| 07:58.11 | kevix | paivakil: the initrd should have kernel modules for the root fs and need hw. if that did not change, then no change needed. |
| 07:58.22 | neil | darkness_: The #webmin group a quite aren't they |
| 07:59.15 | paivakil | kevix: root is now /dev/sda4; it will now be /dev/sda5; so I want to know if I need to rebuild initrd.img |
| 07:59.43 | paivakil | ugh ``it used to be /dev/sda5'' |
| 07:59.43 | darkness_ | Neil: too quite. Anyhow i've sorted it :-) |
| 08:00.06 | madradrone | paivakil: no but edit your bootloader config and fstab |
| 08:00.13 | neil | darkness_: webmin allowed you to log again then. |
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| 08:00.33 | kevix | paivakil: if sda4 fstype = sda5 fstype then no. |
| 08:00.48 | liable | omry|work: lyx?? |
| 08:00.51 | darkness_ | Neil, Yep. Actually i've been looking at the script so you can change how many auth attempt you need. |
| 08:01.17 | nima | how do i figure out what version of orinoco_cs i am using? |
| 08:01.30 | omry|work | liable, lyx. http://packages.debian.org/unstable/editors/lyx |
| 08:01.34 | neil | darkness_: looks like a good place to put a very large number. |
| 08:01.34 | madradrone | nima: modinfo <module> |
| 08:01.38 | paivakil | kevix: thanks |
| 08:01.55 | darkness_ | btw bit off topic here. Anyone here studying with the Open Uni in computing? |
| 08:02.04 | kevix | paivakil: if your boot fs was ext3, then the initrd needs ext3 support. and if your new rootfs is reiserfs, then you need a new initrd. |
| 08:02.18 | liable | !why is lyx not in instable? |
| 08:02.19 | dpkg | liable: I think you lost me on that one |
| 08:02.24 | liable | !why is lyx not in unstable? |
| 08:02.25 | dpkg | liable: what are you talking about? |
| 08:02.31 | liable | meh |
| 08:02.44 | darkness_ | neil: Now i know the user = root and != my username i shall leave it at three :-) |
| 08:03.04 | Guerin | liable: something is only ever not in unstable because there's nobody who's made a package for it |
| 08:03.15 | kevix | !dpkg lyx |
| 08:03.16 | dpkg | [lyx] a high-level word processer that uses LaTeX as its backend, or at http://www.lyx.org, or ask me about lyx trick |
| 08:03.27 | kevix | !dpkg lyx version |
| 08:03.36 | Guerin | liable: in the case of lyx, i think there have been some packaging problems recently ... i know it was out of testing for the longest time |
| 08:03.38 | neil | darkness_: ok, by the way where are you, I in Australia/NSW/Portland. |
| 08:03.50 | darkness_ | neil: Uk. |
| 08:03.54 | Guerin | !maint lyx |
| 08:03.59 | dpkg | lyx: Debian LyX Maintainers <pkg-lyx-devel@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
| 08:04.00 | liable | omry|work: see what Guerin just said |
| 08:04.11 | Guerin | liable: oh, sorry :) |
| 08:04.24 | omry|work | liable, Guerin, thanks :) |
| 08:04.28 | liable | god, i can *never* find what i want on the ibm site.. |
| 08:04.32 | neil | darkness_: must be quite late there then, its about 7pm here. |
| 08:04.43 | liable | Guerin: no worries. you gave a pretty good answer :) |
| 08:04.55 | darkness_ | neil: No it's 8am over here. |
| 08:05.08 | neil | darkness_: ok |
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| 08:05.59 | kevix | Guerin: tetex is maintained by frank kúster |
| 08:06.19 | tst2 | I have a question about updating a custom kernel (same version, new .config) : |
| 08:06.24 | tst2 | WTF is this braindamage?! I'm running kernel-image-2.6.14.2_custom.5.0 and I want to upgrade to kernel-image-2.6.14.2_custom.6.0_i386.deb. However, when I dpkg -i the latter, it complains that there is already a module directory (and this "could be bad"). When I try to first uninstall custom-5.0 it also complains ("not recommended") WTF does it want me to do for christ's sake!? |
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| 08:06.42 | Arthemis | hi! |
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| 08:07.00 | Arthemis | anybody helps me? |
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| 08:07.12 | Guerin | kevix: this means nothing to me |
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| 08:07.22 | Arthemis | excuse me |
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| 08:07.27 | kevix | Guerin: k,never mind. |
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| 08:07.55 | kevix | Arthemis: we in #debian can only help with debian problem x-) |
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| 08:08.07 | neil | Arthemis: you need to ask a question to get answer. |
| 08:08.11 | Arthemis | i have a problem...i'd like to burn a dvd but i don't know what program could take a dvd and make a backup, like dvdshrink |
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| 08:08.15 | SimonRaven | tst2: read the text it shows you and grow a brain |
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| 08:08.57 | tst2 | SimonRaven: I have read the text, as the specifics of my question implies. |
| 08:09.07 | neil | Arthemis: I use dvdbackup to get the data off the DVD, It doesn't shrink it though. |
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| 08:09.31 | Arthemis | but the dvd is 5 GB and i've to burn on a 4.7 GB |
| 08:09.36 | SimonRaven | not all of it, otherwise you wouldn't be here bitching about it |
| 08:09.39 | tst2 | Can the op ban "SimonRaven" for incivility please? Is there a law and order on here, or can anyone just insult anybody? |
| 08:09.41 | kevix | I think every day at least 5 folks ask about backup/copy dvd, I'm supprised our bot does have a canned answer for it x-) |
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| 08:09.57 | SimonRaven | tst2: go fuck yourself :) |
| 08:10.07 | SimonRaven | /ig -replies tst2 |
| 08:10.18 | kevix | tst2: I dont think op's ban themselves x-) |
| 08:10.37 | blunted | can someone help me fix my sound please? |
| 08:10.53 | kevix | blunted: could you speak a little louder x-) |
| 08:11.03 | SimonRaven | ask your question first |
| 08:11.05 | Guerin | tst2: the two kernel packages you're installing provide the same directory. This is bad, as you can probably understand. Add something to the version string. |
| 08:11.14 | Guerin | !tell tst2 about kp mantra |
| 08:11.16 | tst2 | It figures that most knowledgeable people left the channel (I used to be here all the time about a year ago). if assholes are ops now. |
| 08:11.16 | blunted | aight hold up lemme figure out how to ask it |
| 08:11.26 | Arthemis | can you tell me an example of dvdbackup uses? |
| 08:11.29 | Guerin | tst2: oh, piss off |
| 08:11.39 | Arthemis | what should i write in the command line? |
| 08:11.44 | blunted | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:11.45 | Guerin | tst2: the knowledgeable people are leaving this channel BECAUSE of attitudes like yours |
| 08:11.48 | SimonRaven | blunted: stating what the problem is is a good start |
| 08:11.48 | Arthemis | to backup the cdrom1? |
| 08:11.49 | Guerin | !fable |
| 08:11.49 | dpkg | it has been said that fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
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| 08:11.57 | Guerin | tst2: read that ^ |
| 08:12.00 | SimonRaven | blunted: yes |
| 08:12.05 | blunted | sh: line 1: alsamix: command not found |
| 08:12.07 | blunted | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
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| 08:12.11 | blunted | ^ that |
| 08:12.14 | Guerin | tst2: and SimonRaven isn't an op, so your point is dead in the water. |
| 08:12.14 | SimonRaven | blunted: alsamixer |
| 08:12.19 | blunted | yeah i know |
| 08:12.24 | blunted | i hit enter too early |
| 08:12.26 | blunted | :) |
| 08:12.29 | tst2 | Guerin: kevix just said he was an op |
| 08:12.29 | SimonRaven | blunted: /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/snddevices |
| 08:12.43 | SimonRaven | it's a script to create the /dev files |
| 08:13.01 | kevix | blunted: have you run alsaconfig and made sure your sound was not muted. this is the most common issue. |
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| 08:13.05 | SimonRaven | see, now when people ask politely, they get a polite answer |
| 08:13.08 | SimonRaven | alsaconf |
| 08:13.29 | Guerin | tst2: kevix is wrong |
| 08:13.34 | neil | Arthemis: look at the man page, I use "dvdbackup -i /dev/hdd -F -o ." here |
| 08:13.37 | tst2 | It seems the situation reversed itself socially from a year ago. It used to be Debian was a decent place, and Gentoo was kiddie-infested. Now it's the other way around. Brain-drain to Ubuntu? |
| 08:13.44 | kevix | SimonRaven: I my fingers get ahead of me. |
| 08:13.58 | Guerin | tst2: did you read the fable yet? |
| 08:14.01 | blunted | crackrock:/home/blunted# /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/snddevices |
| 08:14.01 | blunted | bash: /usr/share/doc/alsa-base/snddevices: No such file or directory |
| 08:14.08 | SimonRaven | kevix: oh, that wasn't for you :) |
| 08:14.23 | SimonRaven | blunted: it's in one of the alsa* dirs |
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| 08:14.34 | tst2 | Guerin: huh? I don't have time for "fables" whatever the hell that is. |
| 08:14.52 | Guerin | !fable |
| 08:14.52 | dpkg | [fable] http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 08:14.53 | Phated | Wow, and he says we're incivil. |
| 08:14.57 | kevix | Guerin: blunted has his sound devices setup and unmuted? |
| 08:15.29 | Guerin | kevix: haven't been paying attention |
| 08:15.31 | blunted | blunted alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory |
| 08:15.33 | SimonRaven | er, wtf. it *used* to be in there... |
| 08:15.40 | SimonRaven | blunted: sec |
| 08:16.54 | SimonRaven | duh, /usr/share/alsa-base/ |
| 08:17.02 | SimonRaven | my bad :) |
| 08:17.12 | kevix | blunted: does 'cat /proc/asound/cards' show anything? |
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| 08:17.41 | SimonRaven | blunted: the script is there ^^^. run that as root / sudo, and it should get that started |
| 08:17.52 | blunted | yeah i just ran it |
| 08:18.03 | blunted | it did some stuff |
| 08:18.12 | SimonRaven | then you can run alsamixer, after you've loaded your sound modules |
| 08:18.15 | blunted | but alsamixer dont work |
| 08:18.53 | SimonRaven | ^^^ |
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| 08:19.28 | karsten | kevix: Well, ye olde traditional cure worked. |
| 08:19.33 | karsten | kevix: Rebooted the puppy. |
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| 08:20.50 | kevix | karsten: that is good. oscams razor or some such. |
| 08:21.08 | nerdy2 | occam's |
| 08:21.11 | Arthemis | excuse for dvdbackup: this is the shell's reply after my command...what it means?: alessio@debian:~$ dvdbackup -i /dev/cdrom1 -F -o /home/alessio |
| 08:21.11 | Arthemis | libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. |
| 08:21.11 | Arthemis | ************************************************ |
| 08:21.11 | Arthemis | ** ** |
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| 08:22.08 | Arthemis | exuse me |
| 08:22.22 | Arthemis | alessio@debian:~$ dvdbackup -i /dev/cdrom1 -F -o /home/alessio |
| 08:22.23 | Arthemis | libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable. |
| 08:22.24 | servus | I think it's "Occam's Razor" |
| 08:22.29 | kevix | who is in change of adding to 'dpkg' for irc. can someone add a dvd rip/copy faq. |
| 08:22.41 | Arthemis | this is what the shell says when i try to backup my dvd |
| 08:22.43 | Guerin | kevix: anyone can do it. /msg dpkg help |
| 08:23.02 | SimonRaven | no one is 'in charge' if there isn't one, add it yourself |
| 08:23.06 | kevix | Guerin: cool. thanksx |
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| 08:23.40 | stdoubt | Arthemis: have you installed libdvdcss ? |
| 08:23.51 | Arthemis | no |
| 08:23.58 | Arthemis | are there on apt? |
| 08:24.09 | aeronadix | I am trying to set my class path, I did a export JAVA_HOME=/opt/jdk... and thats fine, but when I do env to see it, its not there. Whats the command to see non global environment variable, also ech $JAVA_HOME return an empty line |
| 08:24.22 | stdoubt | Arthemis: yes but not from regular debian archives |
| 08:24.28 | Arthemis | :( |
| 08:24.34 | Arthemis | how can i download it? |
| 08:24.37 | stdoubt | try Marillat's repositories |
| 08:24.54 | stdoubt | or google libdvdcss |
| 08:25.03 | stdoubt | there are .debs |
| 08:25.31 | SimonRaven | /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh |
| 08:25.36 | kevix | !marillat |
| 08:25.36 | dpkg | i guess marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 08:25.41 | SimonRaven | less /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian |
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| 08:26.21 | SimonRaven | libdvdread for Debian; Many DVDs use css. To play these discs, a special library is needed to decode them, libdvdcss. Due to legal problems, Debian cannot distribute libdvdcss, but it is available on other places on the internet. If it is legal for you to use css, you can run '/usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh' at any time to download and install it. |
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| 08:27.20 | Arthemis | ok but the error now is: Error reading IFO for title set 1 |
| 08:27.20 | Arthemis | Mirror of main feature file which is title set 1 failed |
| 08:27.20 | Arthemis | Mirror of main feature film of DVD failed |
| 08:28.31 | kevix | any updates on the state of floss in france? |
| 08:28.50 | SimonRaven | you know, you could read the README bit i just posted and follow it |
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| 08:40.00 | diepes | it is quite |
| 08:40.43 | kevix | diepes: how goes it in the land of ubuntu! |
| 08:41.54 | diepes | i do think ubuntu is helping the debian project, in providing easy access for non technical users |
| 08:42.46 | diepes | I personally love he fact that the default install CD can shrink a windows partition. |
| 08:44.23 | kevix | diepes: have you seen any of the freedom toasters? |
| 08:44.57 | diepes | not personally, but someone at work has cut a couple of Suse CD's on one |
| 08:45.20 | kevix | diepes: cool! |
| 08:45.34 | diepes | I have had Ubuntu mail me a 5pack installaion live cd's for free. Dont know who foots the bill. |
| 08:45.56 | diepes | Quite nifty to handout to friends or interested people |
| 08:46.28 | diepes | where are you from kevix ? |
| 08:46.45 | kevix | diepes: I just got a 50 pack (from netherlands). its ubuntu's founder and billionaire mark shuttleworth. |
| 08:47.00 | kevix | diepes: US/NY |
| 08:47.08 | diepes | kevix: Ok, you are converting the world ! |
| 08:47.36 | diepes | kevix: South Africa/Johannesburg |
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| 08:48.24 | kevix | diepes: debian & ubuntu have that mission. (I like the j'berg reisling) |
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| 08:50.45 | diepes | kevix: Ubuntu is a realy slick intro to the Debian world for first time users, and gets them hooked on the easy internet updates and software installs. The growth in Debian based distos will hopefully result in more non-free software also being released in .deb format. |
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| 08:52.01 | GregorR | A preferable goal would be that more non-free software would become free software. |
| 08:52.01 | pngwn | ubuntu is off topic in here |
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| 08:52.27 | kevix | diepes: true. as long as france doesnt do something stupid and outlaw free software |
| 08:52.55 | diepes | kevix: i think france has also still very restrictive laws on encryption |
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| 08:53.03 | kevix | pngwn: no one was asking any questions, no harm done by chatting x-) |
| 08:53.18 | diepes | pngwn: dont get upset, just filling the lull in conversation |
| 08:53.28 | pngwn | kevix, off topic is off topic...check the last four words of the topic |
| 08:53.40 | SimonRaven | whomever thought up that one must've been smoking not only crack, but bad crack on top of it |
| 08:53.42 | diepes | is talking shit of topic |
| 08:53.54 | SimonRaven | (outlawing FS) |
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| 08:54.25 | Guerin | it'll never fly, anyway |
| 08:54.30 | Guerin | the EU won't allow it |
| 08:54.53 | Guerin | the EU made germany change its beer purity law, they can knock this one on the head |
| 08:55.09 | diepes | EU does seem to get the free software idea better than the US |
| 08:55.20 | SimonRaven | or .ca ... |
| 08:55.27 | kevix | Guerin: but how on earth did this horrible beast just show up like the DMCA and get on the adgenda |
| 08:55.44 | Guerin | kevix: god knows |
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| 08:58.00 | kevix | does anyone in the cabal know why someone wants to declassify -private? |
| 08:58.12 | Guerin | kevix: tinc |
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| 08:58.46 | kevix | Guerin: x-) well who ever may know... |
| 08:59.12 | caphuso | kevix: read the GR |
| 08:59.50 | kevix | caphuso: will do... |
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| 09:02.30 | kevix | caphuso: but was there any events that lead to someone saying "...you know we should do this..." |
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| 09:02.59 | caphuso | kevix: don't know |
| 09:03.05 | Guerin | kevix: read debian-private |
| 09:03.09 | caphuso | Guerin: hah |
| 09:03.19 | doubleukay | hey Ethics, are you there? |
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| 09:04.04 | kevix | Guerin: I mean, debian has always had the idea of openness and they still made a -private. |
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| 09:05.06 | SimonRaven | it's a Penix |
| 09:05.10 | Guerin | kevix: an official forum for issues of relevance to the developer community, but not to non-developers, sounds reasonable to me |
| 09:05.14 | kevix | I wonder if their is a penatly for disclosing -private info (like plamegate) |
| 09:05.15 | Penix | ooo |
| 09:05.25 | SimonRaven | Penix: how are you? |
| 09:05.32 | Penix | can't complain |
| 09:05.37 | Guerin | kevix: we're not getting to read all the email that DDs send to each other, either... |
| 09:05.39 | SimonRaven | cool |
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| 09:05.57 | Guerin | Penix: i bet you COULD complain |
| 09:06.04 | Penix | Guerin: well, yeah :) |
| 09:06.25 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 09:06.27 | kevix | Guerin: exactly, so why did aj feel it needs to be public is beyond me. |
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| 09:06.48 | GlenneMannen | I had a file called webchat.pl in my /tmp dir and it was some udp flood code. in ps aux I had it run multiple times by www-data user.. what is this? |
| 09:07.16 | SimonRaven | kevix: um, you know, it's been around for a long time, and you bitch about it *now*? |
| 09:07.22 | kevix | GlenneMannen: is it an exploit for phpbb IIRC. |
| 09:07.24 | caphuso | GlenneMannen: the result of your latest php based web thingie exploit? |
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| 09:07.47 | SimonRaven | that's what we call 0wn3d |
| 09:07.51 | Penix | was going to hassle bob2 about his alacarte itp, but his away status isn't encouraging |
| 09:07.58 | Guerin | kevix: my previous suggestion is serious - you might get a chance to READ the mailing list soon, and then you'll either a) see that there's nothing of any relevance in there anyhow; or b) find out some interesting sauciness |
| 09:08.22 | GlenneMannen | what should I do? |
| 09:08.26 | smagy2 | hello folks can anyone recommend where i can get a which is 3.3 < any version < 4 ? i can't seem to find it in trollech |
| 09:08.28 | SimonRaven | i bet on a) |
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| 09:08.52 | kevix | SimonRaven: since I'm not a DD, I dont know. Only what I read on -devel. |
| 09:09.37 | SimonRaven | GlenneMannen: audit your backups, wipe the drive(s) that system is on, and reinstall, and make sure it isn't connected to the 'net while you're doing so. and well, be more careful |
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| 09:09.59 | kevix | Guerin: yea. beside vacation announcement and someone's personal business -- but not relevent to software or infrastructure. |
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| 09:10.19 | kuhwalllskee | what all do I need to do for my nvidia card after the one-liner that dpkg has? |
| 09:10.28 | GlenneMannen | SimonRaven: do I need to wipe? |
| 09:10.45 | SimonRaven | yes |
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| 09:10.49 | bonez39 | need help creating/printing an envelope...in any linux application, to include the address bar code and other markings..on the envelope |
| 09:11.01 | GlenneMannen | damn :/ |
| 09:11.03 | pppoe_dude | anyone seen my error msg before? re:mplayer check http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/448090 plz |
| 09:11.05 | Penix | anyone know what the deal is with ultra160 scsi termination? dunno if I need two or one for a tape drive, or where to put it on the cable... |
| 09:11.06 | servus | bonez39: I used a PHP-created PDF file for such a purpose |
| 09:11.19 | servus | I used this library: http://fpdf.org/ |
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| 09:11.28 | pppoe_dude | sound and video get really choppy once the error messages start |
| 09:11.35 | SimonRaven | Penix: as with any scsi, you need termination on both ends of the physical chain |
| 09:12.08 | Penix | SimonRaven: so, one terminator down the card end before its plugged in, and the same on the drive end? |
| 09:12.16 | bonez39 | servus, ok, checking that link..I'd like something that keeps addresses..so that the next time I need to print an envelope... for the same recipient..I don't have to reenter it...just click on a list and have it print out |
| 09:12.33 | servus | Oh, I thought you wanted to program such an application :) Otherwise. I do not know. |
| 09:12.52 | Penix | pita trying to jam an lvd terminator into a port so close to the end of the cable |
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| 09:13.02 | GlenneMannen | SimonRaven: why not just read the code and remove the things it added? |
| 09:13.14 | SimonRaven | could be 1) on the drive itself, or 2) an external adapter 2a) on the cable 2b) attached to the drive |
| 09:13.21 | Guerin | GlenneMannen: because you can't |
| 09:13.40 | servus | GlenneMannen: If the system is compromised, most people will assume worst-case scenario (massive system-wide infection) |
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| 09:13.56 | GlenneMannen | theres no way I can fix this so I guess all my data on that server is gone |
| 09:14.02 | SimonRaven | GlenneMannen: no. audit your backups, restore non-binary data only, and reinstall. |
| 09:14.19 | bonez39 | servus, for now, I can print a nicelooking envelope in Word, with the envelope wizard.....has the barcode and longer bold lines up near the stamp...let's me include a return address or not....etc..... |
| 09:14.23 | SimonRaven | i'm going to keep saying this over and over until you do |
| 09:14.24 | Penix | I'm greatful I managed to score a free scsi card and tape drive, but ffs scsi is confusing |
| 09:14.29 | GlenneMannen | heh... what backups =) |
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| 09:14.31 | servus | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:14.33 | kevix | GlenneMannen: what what I read, it just install a file that just runs a perl script that finds other hosts to exploit. and it doenst seem to delete anything. but of course it can be edited to do more. |
| 09:14.45 | SimonRaven | mmm scsi tape drive... i wish i had one |
| 09:14.45 | bonez39 | servus, ok.... |
| 09:14.46 | Penix | gimme SCA 80 and a backplane any day |
| 09:14.55 | Penix | SimonRaven: came with a 20gb tape too |
| 09:15.03 | servus | OpenOffice.org being a Microsoft Word clone for Linux and other systems. |
| 09:15.05 | SimonRaven | ooo, nummies |
| 09:15.24 | Penix | got a free adaptec scsi card and a promise hardware raid controller |
| 09:15.26 | SimonRaven | i can get some tapes, but nothing to put them in :| |
| 09:15.28 | Penix | not to keen on the promise one |
| 09:15.37 | SimonRaven | i'd stay away from it |
| 09:15.39 | Penix | s/to/too/ |
| 09:15.44 | edrin | how can i install openoffice 2.0 on debian testing? |
| 09:15.47 | servus | I got a promise hardware raid card. It turned out to not be hardware. |
| 09:15.56 | Penix | might be useful if I can get it running as a normal ide controller or something |
| 09:16.04 | GlenneMannen | how to prevent this from happening again? |
| 09:16.09 | Penix | has a useful 128mb sdram stick on it |
| 09:16.11 | servus | I see that an awful lot. There is a hardware BIOS interface to create an array, but Linux still just sees two separate drives, so it is apparently some Windows mumbo jumbo : o/ |
| 09:16.15 | nevyn | servus: yeah that's so. |
| 09:16.30 | SimonRaven | like any other promise, it turned out to be empty |
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| 09:16.42 | nevyn | servus: promis have "drivers" that implement raid |
| 09:16.43 | servus | Same with I think the Via "hardware" RAID cards... |
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| 09:16.47 | goodgirl | Hello, I need to use ntfsclone, its supposed to be part of ntfsprogs, apt-get tells me that ntfsprogs is already the newest version but I dont have ntfsclone. How do I get it? |
| 09:17.01 | servus | nevyn: Leaving one to wonder precisely how the RAID card is different from an IDE card. |
| 09:17.07 | nevyn | servus: but it's a world of hurt to use a bianry only storage driver it's bitten me a number of times |
| 09:17.10 | nevyn | servus: it's not |
| 09:17.16 | nevyn | linux can talk to it as an ide card |
| 09:17.19 | servus | Sure it is -- it's more expensive ;-) |
| 09:17.21 | SimonRaven | GlenneMannen: vigilance, good security policy, good admins that know what they're doing, and luck |
| 09:17.28 | doubleukay | hey guys, any experience with ECC RAM? |
| 09:17.32 | dondelelcaro | !+find ntfsclone |
| 09:17.34 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 09:17.41 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: just ask your question... |
| 09:17.42 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'ntfsclone' (1): (/usr/sbin/ntfsclone) in otherosfs/ntfsprogs. |
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| 09:17.47 | dondelelcaro | goodgirl: see above. |
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| 09:17.58 | dondelelcaro | goodgirl: if /usr/sbin/ntfsclone doesn't exist, reinstall ntfsprogs. |
| 09:18.02 | doubleukay | ahh yes, "don't ask to ask". i'm not sure if i'm getting too many corrected ecc errors |
| 09:18.16 | doubleukay | there were 185 overnight. |
| 09:18.22 | edrin | how can i install openoffice 2.0 on debian testing? |
| 09:18.30 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: that seems like a lot to me... |
| 09:18.34 | Guerin | edrin: you can't |
| 09:18.37 | GlenneMannen | SimonRaven: the mainthing for the exploit is the phpbb thing right? |
| 09:18.56 | doubleukay | i wonder if IPMI isn't reporting correct figures. |
| 09:19.10 | SimonRaven | GlenneMannen: not only. |
| 09:19.19 | dondelelcaro | !why is openoffice.org not in testing |
| 09:19.19 | dpkg | openoffice.org is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=openoffice.org |
| 09:19.22 | dondelelcaro | edrin: ^^^ |
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| 09:20.54 | Baeaeken | call trace:<irq> <ffff8015660>{_report_bad_irq+48} disabling irq 5 |
| 09:20.58 | Baeaeken | When booting. |
| 09:21.00 | Baeaeken | Whats my problem? |
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| 09:21.16 | goodgirl | dondelelcaro: I would do a remove and then install again? |
| 09:21.39 | SimonRaven | first thoughts are either kernel bug or bad hardware |
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| 09:22.23 | messia | I must go, see you later |
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| 09:22.45 | Baeaeken | SimonRaven: I have some problems with grub too...can it be that? |
| 09:22.47 | goodgirl | done |
| 09:22.59 | Baeaeken | ...and im using sata discs. |
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| 09:25.01 | rvalles | can someone give me an URL for the experimental daily installation floppies? |
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| 09:25.27 | Tango | http://emiliano.servehttp.com |
| 09:25.41 | GlenneMannen | is there anyway I can read about this new exploit? |
| 09:25.46 | GlenneMannen | anywhere |
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| 09:26.07 | edrin | dondelelcaro: so when do you think will it be available? |
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| 09:26.47 | kevix | GlenneMannen: if you google for 'phpbb linux exploit' you may find something. |
| 09:26.55 | GlenneMannen | ok |
| 09:26.59 | SimonRaven | a lot of somethings |
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| 09:28.13 | kevix | GlenneMannen: lots of hits. cross-site scripting issue. |
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| 09:29.30 | GlenneMannen | is the /hoemdirs untouched? |
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| 09:30.34 | rvalles | can someone give me an URL for the experimental daily installation floppies? |
| 09:30.40 | kevix | GlenneMannen: it say it is fixed in version 2.0.13-6sarge1 |
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| 09:30.47 | [Bart]_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:31.37 | kevix | rvalles: www.debian.org |
| 09:31.39 | [Bart]_ | anybody who knows a good -graphical- performance `manager` (with history) for Debian (like i3 veritas or openview) |
| 09:32.00 | rvalles | kevix: great. |
| 09:32.22 | kevix | [Bart]: isag ? |
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| 09:32.58 | [Bart] | kevix : I never heared of isag... I will check this, tnx |
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| 09:33.23 | rvalles | kevix: I'd expect them to be in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/installer-i386 |
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| 09:33.28 | rvalles | kevix: but they're not there |
| 09:33.31 | liable | rvalles: http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 09:33.34 | rvalles | liable: thanks! |
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| 09:34.01 | liable | rvalles: dont see floppies though. |
| 09:34.15 | rvalles | liable: same problem :/ |
| 09:34.25 | rvalles | liable: I see floppies, but they're not daily |
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| 09:35.15 | liable | rvalles: http://people.debian.org/~joeyh/d-i/images/daily/ |
| 09:36.06 | positron| | how do i force quit a program in X? |
| 09:36.16 | positron| | there was some ctrl-alt-esc ? |
| 09:36.22 | positron| | doesent work in gnome 2.8 |
| 09:36.31 | rvalles | liable: ok |
| 09:36.33 | liable | xkill or kill 'pid' |
| 09:36.35 | rvalles | liable: now... how did you find that? |
| 09:36.42 | positron| | in X mode |
| 09:36.52 | kevix | positron|: to restart X - ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 09:36.52 | pihhan | positron|: there is some nice applet |
| 09:37.00 | positron| | kevix: i dont want to restart x |
| 09:37.18 | liable | rvalles: i had the first link from 'somewhere' <shrug, cant remeber> |
| 09:37.26 | rvalles | liable: the last one |
| 09:37.28 | azeem | positron|: metacity detects if a program won't quit (maybe that just works for GNOME programs) and asks you whether you want to force quite after a while |
| 09:37.28 | rvalles | liable: :O |
| 09:37.31 | kevix | positron|: other then that 'x' on the tool bar, there is a cool tool: xkill. |
| 09:37.38 | liable | rvalles: its from the first link. |
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| 09:37.47 | rvalles | ok |
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| 09:38.23 | positron| | opera launched java applet in separate window and it doesent quit from the X-mark in upperright corner |
| 09:38.29 | positron| | how do i kill it? |
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| 09:39.04 | kevix | positron|: run on an xterm 'xkill' then click the window. |
| 09:39.28 | liable | positron|: just run ps aux and then kill it in a xterm |
| 09:39.38 | positron| | lol it killed whole opera |
| 09:39.46 | doubleukay | dondelelcaro, hmm i think the data returned by IPMI is incorrect. dang. |
| 09:40.18 | positron| | thx ppl |
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| 09:41.52 | Guerin | positron|: sounds ideal to me |
| 09:42.17 | positron| | Guerin: what? |
| 09:42.37 | Guerin | positron|: opera being sound sounds ideal |
| 09:42.57 | positron| | opera being sound? |
| 09:43.16 | Guerin | no |
| 09:43.30 | positron| | wtf i dont understand please explain |
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| 09:43.42 | Guerin | opera being a crap proprietary browser which people think it's good just because it isn't adware any more |
| 09:43.51 | positron| | blah |
| 09:43.59 | positron| | opera has its advantages |
| 09:44.11 | Guerin | i disagree |
| 09:44.16 | positron| | and its out of the packet |
| 09:44.19 | azeem | so, did dclarke manage to boot his Sun? |
| 09:44.19 | Guerin | but more to the point |
| 09:44.22 | positron| | dont have to install any shit |
| 09:44.28 | Guerin | it has its disadvantages |
| 09:44.39 | positron| | Guerin: yea those too |
| 09:44.41 | Guerin | azeem: i *think* so |
| 09:44.45 | positron| | but i prefer opera |
| 09:44.45 | kevix | Guerin: if opera went GPL, would it go in debian? |
| 09:44.49 | azeem | nice |
| 09:44.50 | Guerin | azeem: i saw him get a shell somehow |
| 09:44.53 | rvalles | sun and booting? |
| 09:44.58 | azeem | kevix: that's pretty sure |
| 09:45.05 | Guerin | kevix: if the code's provenance was sound, sure thing |
| 09:45.09 | rvalles | I had fun a few weeks ago dealing with an ultra5 and that |
| 09:45.12 | positron| | i have used ff 2x2 weeks and i had to change back to opera |
| 09:45.14 | azeem | kevix: it would only take one DD to think it would be worthwhile |
| 09:45.17 | rvalles | stupid openboot |
| 09:45.31 | positron| | opera makes navigation so easy. and theres no plugins for every feature and i dont have time to write them |
| 09:45.57 | kevix | azeem: well one DD thought ' |
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| 09:46.32 | kevix | azeem: well one DD thought 'hotbabe' was ok, but its not here x-) |
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| 09:47.00 | Guerin | kevix: haha |
| 09:47.30 | Guerin | kevix: didn't it get additional skins and separated out into a couple packages, and the name changed? |
| 09:47.32 | kevix | Guerin: I think its ok for every new app that duplicates a current app to get the once over. |
| 09:47.54 | azeem | kevix: people tend to be more touchy about web browsers |
| 09:48.20 | azeem | for most users, it's one of their primary apps, as opposed to an editor, e.g. |
| 09:48.21 | kevix | Guerin: and still, it got booted. (BTW I went to an unoffical deb site and downloaded it -- no big woop ) |
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| 09:49.23 | positron| | theres no such browser i wanted. i have considered to make my own browser which fits perfectly for me |
| 09:49.25 | spielmann | hi. I have a toshiba laptop with debian unstable running. Everything runs smoothly, except for the touchpad. It is too slow. Loading some LiveCD (Whax, etc) it goes much faster. Anyone knows where can one configure the touchpad? |
| 09:49.26 | Guerin | kevix: hrm, on what grounds was it eventually excluded? |
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| 09:49.42 | Guerin | positron|: yeah, because writing a web browser is just that trivial |
| 09:49.53 | positron| | Guerin: it would be a big project |
| 09:50.11 | positron| | Guerin: so thats why i should start a company for it and make it the best available |
| 09:50.15 | Guerin | spielmann: xset allows you to set the speed |
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| 09:50.29 | Guerin | positron|: you could call it waterkitten! |
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| 09:50.55 | kevix | Guerin: I dont recall but I guess even having the offensive image not be the default was still too much. |
| 09:50.59 | positron| | Guerin: whats that? but i think that your not believing me |
| 09:51.00 | b00 | hey, i've hardlinked afile by mistake (wanted to do ln -s , but left out s). can I unlink without removing the original ? |
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| 09:51.28 | Guerin | positron|: no, reallly. |
| 09:51.35 | Guerin | b00: yes |
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| 09:51.39 | positron| | Guerin: what does a waterkitten mean? |
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| 09:51.51 | [sr] | hi |
| 09:51.52 | Guerin | b00: the file will remain as long as at least one hard link, or the original, exists |
| 09:52.01 | Guerin | positron|: it's a really, really good name for a browser |
| 09:52.04 | [sr] | is intendes apache 2.2.x going to the sid version? |
| 09:52.04 | spielmann | Guerin, true, but not for the touchpad. Only for external mice, so to speak :( |
| 09:52.07 | Guerin | positron|: it has ... resonance |
| 09:52.15 | Guerin | spielmann: are you sure? |
| 09:52.31 | spielmann | Guerin, I just tried now. Unplugging the external mouse "xset m 4" has no effect |
| 09:52.31 | cahoot | Guerin: like splashbeep |
| 09:52.32 | positron| | Guerin: ok i dont care |
| 09:52.37 | Guerin | [sr]: any given piece of free software will eventuall make it into debian unstable |
| 09:52.52 | b00 | Guerin, ok, thanks |
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| 09:53.24 | dondelelcaro | Guerin: well, any piece that's marginally usefull. |
| 09:53.34 | [sr] | hehe |
| 09:53.35 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: yeah |
| 09:53.35 | [sr] | oki Guerin |
| 09:53.37 | [sr] | merci |
| 09:53.44 | dondelelcaro | (and who's upstream isn't a complete screwball, ala micq) |
| 09:53.47 | spielmann | Guerin, ah wait. I'll just play with the "Synaptics Touchpad" entry in xorg.conf (d'oh). Thank you very much, though, for your help |
| 09:54.03 | Guerin | spielmann: ah, i don't have one o' them |
| 09:54.12 | Guerin | i just have a nipple mouse |
| 09:54.21 | Guerin | (technical term) |
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| 09:54.53 | kevix | Guerin: I wonder it they can be pierced? |
| 09:55.05 | dondelelcaro | it actually has a better technical name, but that's the "polite" name... |
| 09:55.05 | Guerin | kevix: might affect their functionality |
| 09:55.15 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 09:55.47 | spielmann | Guerin, LOL very direct name =) |
| 09:56.12 | Guerin | speaking of which, my university, which used a 4-letter code for each subject, had to change the name of Comparative LITerature, because lots of boneheads were signing up on a lark |
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| 09:56.55 | Guerin | change the 4-letter code, not the name |
| 09:57.55 | gentoothreefour | is there kde xchat interface |
| 09:57.57 | gentoothreefour | hi Guerin |
| 09:57.59 | gentoothreefour | hi all |
| 09:58.01 | gentoothreefour | how is everyone doing |
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| 09:58.35 | fpitt_ | Ciao |
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| 09:58.57 | kevix | gentoothreefour: 'apt-cache search kde irc' |
| 09:59.03 | war92 | Anyone ever get this error? http://www.forumsforyou.com/p/linux.debian.user/kdeaddons_install_dependency_problem_(etch)_2470.html |
| 09:59.07 | Guerin | gentoothreefour: once again, proof positive that gentoo users can almost count |
| 09:59.08 | war92 | Cannot install kde because kdeaddons is not found. |
| 09:59.21 | war92 | I wonder of KDE is screwed in the incoming tree or something |
| 09:59.22 | Guerin | war92: install kdebase |
| 09:59.32 | Guerin | war92: it's screwed in testing; this is a known issue |
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| 10:00.21 | war92 | Guerin: oh-- crap! -- kdebase, , then kde will work? k will give it a try |
| 10:01.03 | Guerin | war92: the kde metapackage inclludes a bunch of stuff which was broken |
| 10:01.12 | Guerin | at least within the last few days, kdebase was installable |
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| 10:05.54 | war92 | Guerin: will try that next, because when I try to lgin/start kde, it crashes when it gets to "loading peripherals" |
| 10:06.06 | war92 | hmm |
| 10:06.09 | war92 | kdebase broken too :( |
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| 10:07.23 | GlenneMannen | phpbb is not going to be allowed on my new system |
| 10:07.42 | Zvpun | What does that mean? Starting bluez-utils: hcid sdpdCan't open RFCOMM control socket: Address familynot supported by protocol rfcomm. |
| 10:07.54 | n0cturnal | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 --dport 8081 -j DNAT --to 192.168.15.128:22 <-- should this work? doesn't seem to.. help anyone? |
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| 10:09.16 | Greatred | n0cturnal, if the packet originates on your own machine append the rule to OUTPUT instead of PREROUTING |
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| 10:10.45 | war92 | Guerin: I found it |
| 10:10.52 | war92 | guru: fixed the errors in .xsession-errors |
| 10:10.53 | war92 | working now |
| 10:10.54 | war92 | thanks |
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| 10:12.03 | n0cturnal | Greatred: it will be coming from the internet |
| 10:12.09 | kevix | GlenneMannen: if the exploit was fixed, why not use it. ever package has an exploit at one time or another. |
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| 10:12.59 | kevix | Zvpun: 'bluez' is for using bluetooth. I guess your computer does not have this, thus the error? |
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| 10:13.48 | Zvpun | kevix: I want to enable a bluetooth stick. I connected it with usb there is a blue light lightening on the stick. That is as much as I know about bluetooth... :-( |
| 10:14.47 | kevix | Zvpun: (not that I know but) there is doc in /usr/share/doc/bluez*/ |
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| 10:16.13 | youssef | hello. I have a bug with gschem |
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| 10:16.54 | youssef | I have apt-get install remove --purged. And then apt-get installed. When I try to launch, it tells me "Could not find a gschemrc file" |
| 10:16.56 | kevix | youssef: we need more details about your bug to help. |
| 10:16.58 | youssef | is it a bug ? |
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| 10:17.23 | marc_in_lux | good morning |
| 10:17.36 | marc_in_lux | I installed sarge with 2.6 kernel. |
| 10:17.46 | GlenneMannen | kevix: well I didn't even use the debian package I used it directly from their page |
| 10:17.49 | youssef | I have once tried to change the config file, since then gschem does not work anymore |
| 10:17.59 | kevix | youssef: commonly there is an example *rc included. look for it in /usr/share/doc/gschem/ |
| 10:18.11 | youssef | thanks |
| 10:18.23 | marc_in_lux | Can I move my / to an LVM/RAID and expect initrd to have all the needed modules to actually access it after boot? |
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| 10:18.35 | kevix | GlenneMannen: always check debian, we have 16000 packages! |
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| 10:19.55 | GlenneMannen | kevix: ok |
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| 10:21.08 | kevix | Zvpun: would this help: http 0 0 |
| 10:21.14 | kevix | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:21.53 | youssef | kevix, no .rc found in /usr/share/doc/geda-gschem/ |
| 10:21.56 | kevix | Zvpun: http://www.stolk.org/debian/bluetooth.html |
| 10:22.35 | kevix | youssef: it maybe in a directory called 'examples' |
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| 10:23.00 | youssef | kevix, no :( |
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| 10:23.58 | ick | Do I have to mount the LVM volume myself? |
| 10:24.03 | youssef | does "apt-get remove foo --purge" remove totaly the program ? |
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| 10:25.36 | kevix | youssef: 'remove' removes the binary, purge also removed the /etc/ or configuration files |
| 10:26.04 | youssef | so if I apt-get remove --purge I should delete all geda files ? |
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| 10:27.34 | kevix | youssef: are you using 'testing' for gschem? |
| 10:27.41 | ick | How can I tell that I want the first part of lvm volume mounted on /usr, the second on /opt etc? |
| 10:27.46 | n0cturnal | iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING --dst 172.22.233.10 -p tcp --dport 22 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.15.128 <-- should this work? |
| 10:27.49 | youssef | I am using testing and unstable |
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| 10:28.33 | kevix | youssef: try 'apt-get -t unstable install gschem' someone said this may fix it. |
| 10:28.43 | youssef | thanks |
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| 10:30.15 | Ramraid | Hey anyone getting system lockups cant cntrl alt backspace have to reboot |
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| 10:32.05 | kevix | Ramraid: more info: what are you running, what kernel, what X? |
| 10:32.10 | hackeron | hey, is there anyway to run an application so the application has no access to the net? -- say "nointernet application"? |
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| 10:33.01 | ick | !LVM |
| 10:33.01 | dpkg | lvm is, like, at http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about lvm_tutorial, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
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| 10:33.20 | kevix | hackeron: it depends on the app. |
| 10:33.34 | Ramraid | Kevix this is a huge prob 25 pages at gentoo forums about it been going on for six months |
| 10:34.26 | kevix | Ramraid: |
| 10:34.48 | kevix | Ramraid: 'it' is not very specific. |
| 10:35.23 | youssef | kevix, you mean "apt-get -t unstable install geda" ? |
| 10:35.38 | kevix | Ramraid: lockup causes: bad memory, bad cpu, bad videocard, overheating.... |
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| 10:35.51 | ick | Anyone using LVM, and that can tell me how tell Debian to actually use it? Now, Debian installed things on my small root partition, because I think the LVM volume isn't mounted. I am stuck here. |
| 10:35.51 | kevix | youssef: I guess... |
| 10:36.08 | [Bart] | again ick? :) |
| 10:36.58 | ick | [Bart]: Yes, I don't understand why it has to work so hard. I assumed the installer would create a configuration such that the volume is mounted automatically, but it doesn't. |
| 10:37.00 | [Bart] | vgchange -a e [vg] , mount /dev/[VG]/[LV] /[mountpoint] and set it in your /etc/fstab offcourse |
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| 10:37.32 | Arthemis | hi... |
| 10:37.38 | [Bart] | ick : the installere can sometimes be confusing. I had the same problem a few months ago, where I actually forgot to write the config. |
| 10:37.54 | Arthemis | i cant download and install Java Runtime Environment for my debian... |
| 10:38.01 | ick | [Bart]: I looked up the manpage of mount, but it didn't say anything about LVM. |
| 10:38.04 | Ramraid | this is a new install of of etch yesterday 2.12 kernel just getting locked up when surfing with fire fox |
| 10:38.27 | azeem | 2.12 kernel? |
| 10:38.30 | kevix | !dpkg get jre |
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| 10:39.04 | SerajewelKS | !dpkg get java |
| 10:39.12 | kevix | azeem: I think he means 2.6.12 ? |
| 10:39.17 | SerajewelKS | oh.. stupid me... |
| 10:39.20 | [Bart] | ick: thats exactly the same as the rest. Only for example /dev/sda is for example /dev/vg00/lv_usr |
| 10:39.20 | SerajewelKS | !get java |
| 10:39.27 | Ramraid | 2.6.12 |
| 10:39.40 | SerajewelKS | dpkg: wake up |
| 10:39.40 | dpkg | serajewelks: I'm already awake! :) |
| 10:39.41 | youssef | kevix, I have "apt-get clean". And "apt-get install -t unstable". Now the problems are more serious |
| 10:39.43 | azeem | Ramraid: is there anything in the logs? |
| 10:39.43 | youssef | ** Message: Could not find any gschemrc file! |
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| 10:40.02 | Ramraid | nope |
| 10:40.13 | Arthemis | it doesn't work |
| 10:40.14 | Arthemis | :( |
| 10:40.20 | ick | [Bart]: Since somethings were already installed on the root partition, I would just have to delete everything which is in a location that should be on the volume group, right? |
| 10:40.25 | kevix | youssef: isn't that the error you got before? |
| 10:40.41 | youssef | before, the error was shorter |
| 10:40.52 | youssef | now they seem that more files are missing |
| 10:40.53 | ick | [Bart]: E.g. somethings are now on /usr (on the 2GB partition) |
| 10:41.51 | [Bart] | ick: thats a tricky one. Mount the lv to another temp mount point (fe /mnt/tmp) then move the data from for example /opt to that /mnt/tmp after this is done, mount that LV to /opt . So quite a lot of moving work |
| 10:42.35 | [Bart] | ick: but wait with /usr . Do the rest first |
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| 10:43.19 | n1gke_ | Hello. |
| 10:44.36 | ick | [Bart]: Userfriendly wise, I could think that it would be really bad for business if Redhat's installer would work like this. Ok, this vgchange probably creates the device nodes. :) |
| 10:44.39 | Spee_Der | Hello. |
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| 10:44.59 | youssef | Do I have to report a bug ? |
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| 10:46.08 | [Bart] | ick: no, vgchange activates the volume group thats al. vgcreate creates the node group. The reason why the installer didnt mount them is because -I think- you created the LV/VGs ok, but you didnt assign the mountpoints to it |
| 10:46.18 | vladuz976 | can someone here tell me how to use mkinitrd to create a initrd image for my new compiled kernel? |
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| 10:46.54 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img [kernel_version] |
| 10:47.01 | ick | [Bart]: Was there an option to assign mount points in the installer then? I missed that. |
| 10:47.23 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: i don't understand how to specify the kernel version |
| 10:47.27 | ick | [Bart]: I must specify the FS type. Is that EXT3? |
| 10:47.44 | [Bart] | ick: yes there is. you need to select the FS or LV and there you can set the mount point. As said, can be confusing sometimes |
| 10:48.00 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : this is the version which is in you /lib/modules directory |
| 10:48.12 | ick | [Bart]: Or is it a generic message of mount, and that it really needs LVM as type? |
| 10:48.19 | [Bart] | ick: yes, this is ext3 or reiser. But I should suggest ext3 |
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| 10:48.38 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: yes, but since i have to kerenel sources how do i specifiy which lib directory? |
| 10:48.41 | [Bart] | ick: what do you mean? |
| 10:48.53 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:48.53 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 10:48.55 | youssef | is there a better channel where I can ask for help ? |
| 10:49.00 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: i have 2.6.13 and 2.6.14 in /usr/src |
| 10:50.21 | ick | [Bart]: never mind, but if I do mount -t ext3 /dev/volumegroep/opt /mnt/temp, it gives an error. |
| 10:50.27 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : that is the kernel version. so if you prepared the kernel. it will write the modules to the /lib/modules . So if you to mkinitrd -o[file] [kernel_version] this will point to the version in /lib/modules |
| 10:50.30 | kevix | youssef: I am using unstable, if I can duplicate your error, I will try to install it. did you install geda? |
| 10:50.39 | [Bart] | ick: which error message? |
| 10:50.44 | youssef | kevix, yes |
| 10:51.05 | kevix | youssef: ok. I will install geda and see it I get errors. |
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| 10:51.43 | youssef | kevix, some weeks ago it worked. Then I tried to change the config file. Then I have errors, I reverted,...I delted the file, etc. But nothing works |
| 10:51.46 | ick | [Bart]: mount: wrong FS type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/volumegroep/opt. |
| 10:52.14 | ick | [Bart]: I had to type it over, since I don't have a console select, and paste option. |
| 10:52.34 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: i found that version number, but running that command the output is just some optional commands to use with mkinitrd, the actual command doesn't get executed |
| 10:52.35 | [Bart] | ick: did you create the filesystem? mkfs.ext3 /dev/volumegroep/opt |
| 10:52.50 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: what am i doing wrong? |
| 10:52.56 | kevix | youssef: ok. it needs to install geda,geda-doc,geda-gnetlist,geda-gschem,geda-symbols,libgeda... |
| 10:52.59 | Zuthos | #forces-vives |
| 10:53.01 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : can you tell me the exact command you executed? |
| 10:53.05 | Arthemis | i'm trying but i can't install this damn jre |
| 10:53.11 | Zuthos | exit |
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| 10:53.21 | ick | [Bart]: The FS of the LVM volume group is just LVm, right? In that case, I indeed didn't. |
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| 10:54.26 | [Bart] | ick: Each volumegroup has a group (or one) logical volume. And each logical volume needs an FS |
| 10:54.38 | vladuz976 | [Bart] mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd-2.6.14-cks6.img 2.6.14-cks6 |
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| 10:55.07 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : that should work,, |
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| 10:55.20 | gnd | when I |
| 10:55.26 | ick | [Bart]: yes, but during installation there was an option "use for LVM", so you could see that as some superfs. |
| 10:55.28 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : are you sure that /lib/modules/2.6.14-cks6 exists? |
| 10:55.30 | youssef | kevix, I think I have all these programs installed |
| 10:55.47 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: i just: options available required and then a listing |
| 10:55.56 | tarzeau | sidplay plays the sids too fast |
| 10:55.59 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: yes exists |
| 10:56.00 | [Bart] | ick : agree, can be confusing |
| 10:56.09 | gnd | when I'm configuring the kernel with make config, if I just hold [enter] all the way through all the questions, my configuration stays the same as it was before, or can it change? |
| 10:56.59 | Guerin | gnd: mmake oldconfig |
| 10:57.00 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : are you running debian?? if so, which version??? |
| 10:57.53 | [Bart] | vladuz976 : maybe also specify the -f option , so that it will overwrite an existing file |
| 10:57.53 | tarzeau | ah it's a known bug in BTS |
| 10:58.04 | vladuz976 | [Bart]: no this hard drive is arch |
| 10:58.08 | [Bart] | tarzeau : it`s a feature... :p |
| 10:58.15 | RichiH | completely offtopic: is there anyone who can tell me what cell phone prices in thailand are like? |
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| 10:58.35 | gnd | Guerin: I already did the make config and held [enter] through all the questions, is there a chance my config got changed? |
| 10:58.46 | tarzeau | [Bart]: sucks horribly if you hear the music twice as fast as normal |
| 10:59.10 | Guerin | gnd: your config will have been set to defaults |
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| 10:59.23 | pnm | hi all.. I just apt-get upgraded my deb unstable system, and now my X server won't start, because it can't initialise the corepointer... |
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| 10:59.40 | Guerin | gnd: you don't want that |
| 10:59.43 | pnm | I looked in xorg.conf to see what device it's trying to use (/dev/input/mice) |
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| 10:59.56 | youssef | keikoz, have you installed ? |
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| 11:00.02 | pnm | now when I try to cat /dev/input/mice it tells me that the device doesn't exist... any ideas |
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| 11:00.15 | Guerin | !any ideas |
| 11:00.15 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of rutabagas, a little thermal paste, and 5 or 6 sex-crazed oxen. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few hours! |
| 11:00.18 | youssef | sorry kevix, I meant |
| 11:00.26 | [Bart] | pnm: add psmouse to your /etc/modules |
| 11:00.33 | keikoz | youssef ? |
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| 11:00.47 | youssef | keikoz, sorry I asked to the wrong user |
| 11:00.54 | n0cturnal_ | anyone? |
| 11:00.54 | [Bart] | pnm : and do modprobe psmouse (or reboot the box) and then it should work |
| 11:01.00 | pnm | [Bart]: sorry, I should've said.. it's a usb mouse - but I'll give that a try |
| 11:01.05 | pnm | [Bart]: thanks |
| 11:01.44 | [Bart] | pnm: i dont know the driver of the usb mouse, but if you know just add that and it will work |
| 11:02.14 | [Bart] | pnm: should be usbmouse I guess |
| 11:02.44 | [Bart] | ick: is it working now? |
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| 11:03.46 | messiah | can anyone tell me how i can get pictures from my phone using bluetooth? |
| 11:04.00 | messiah | i already got a connection using hciconfig |
| 11:04.12 | messiah | but i don't know how i can browse the cellphone |
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| 11:04.56 | youssef | see you later |
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| 11:10.18 | ick | [Bart]: I can mount stuff, and I am now copying everything. |
| 11:10.48 | ick | [Bart]: I am not sure about the other options in /etc/fstab, though. |
| 11:11.14 | enkrypt | is it possible that synaptic segfaults since the latest upgrade? |
| 11:11.22 | ick | [Bart]: i.e. the last two columns which are zero most of the time. |
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| 11:12.31 | [Bart] | ick: the other options are all the same as the rest |
| 11:12.41 | Guerin | '!possible |
| 11:12.47 | Guerin | !possible |
| 11:12.47 | dpkg | Anything's possible. Some things are more possible than others. You'll need to ask a more meaningful question if you want to find out how possible your planned course of action is. |
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| 11:13.05 | enkrypt | okay a different question then |
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| 11:13.49 | enkrypt | does anyone know the reason why my gtk2 sourcecode compiles fine with gcc, but fails to compile with mingw32 because it complains about missing gtk libs? (which is strange, because regular gcc finds them just fine) |
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| 11:15.32 | pnm | [Bart]: hmm - modprobe usbmouse gave promising output about my mouse, but there's still nothing at /dev/input/mice :S |
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| 11:15.51 | ghostys | why is it when i try ./file.bin it states that i do not have permission |
| 11:16.05 | ghostys | so when i chmod 700 it , it then states the file doesn't exist. |
| 11:16.08 | ghostys | what's the go ? |
| 11:16.28 | nerdy2 | chmod 700 ./file.bin says it doesn't exist? |
| 11:17.12 | jeph | howdy? how does one untar a single file from a tar archive by name? |
| 11:17.25 | tarzeau | jeph: tell tar , last parameter |
| 11:17.58 | jeph | tarzeau: like: tar -xvf archive.tar path/to/file ? |
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| 11:18.13 | [Bart] | pnm: hmm |
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| 11:22.11 | ghostys | nerdy2: up says it doesn't exist |
| 11:22.16 | ghostys | yup* |
| 11:22.37 | nerdy2 | are you sure it exists then? |
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| 11:23.58 | pnm | [Bart]: I think I may have tracked down the problem.. when I apt-get upgraded it installed udev and removed hotplug, and when I try /etc/init.d/udev start it says it requires a more recent kernel than I have... I think I'll download a new kernel and take it from there. Thanks for your help |
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| 11:24.33 | [Bart] | pnm: which kernel do you have now? |
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| 11:25.38 | ghostys | nerdy2: yes, i'm just wondering because i chmoded it 700 before without the ./ |
| 11:25.41 | ghostys | would that make a dif ? |
| 11:26.05 | nerdy2 | i don't see why |
| 11:26.20 | pnm | [Bart] the stock debian 2.6.8 kernel.. |
| 11:26.31 | valdyn | ghostys: what would happen if you made an executable script in ~/, named it df and had to rm -rf /, and root went there and tried to run 'df' ? |
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| 11:27.02 | pnm | [Bart]: apparently udev requires 2.6.12... would've been useful if apt-get could've realised that! |
| 11:27.02 | KiwiWiki | what's the most common free anti-virus installed on linux servers nowdays, please? |
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| 11:27.15 | ick | [Bart]: I think it works, I now mounted everything with options rw everywhere. Or should I better just use "defaults" everywhere? |
| 11:28.00 | marculix | KiwiWiki: There is no need for anti-virus on Linux |
| 11:28.03 | uince | hi |
| 11:28.15 | ick | !anti-virus |
| 11:28.19 | ick | !antivirus |
| 11:28.19 | dpkg | antivirus is, like, a class of programs for detecting viruses. There is a free for private/non-commercial use antivirus under http://www.antivir.de/order/privreg/order_e.htm |
| 11:28.21 | KiwiWiki | marculix, it's a mail server serving windows machines. |
| 11:28.43 | KiwiWiki | thanks ick |
| 11:28.53 | [Bart] | ick: use defaults |
| 11:29.11 | [Bart] | pnm: I also didnt know that.. |
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| 11:29.41 | tarzeau | jeph: something like that |
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| 11:30.46 | uince | does anybody know how can i underline a part of a pdf file? does any program exsist?or any idea about how i can do? |
| 11:31.08 | ghostys | nerdy2: any suggestions ?? the file is their, i just downloaded it. |
| 11:31.10 | Guerin | uince: you typically can't edit pdf files |
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| 11:31.20 | ghostys | it's not currupt |
| 11:31.24 | Guerin | uince: unless you convert it to something, then back to pdf |
| 11:31.38 | uince | yes.. but i mean something like acrobat reader professional |
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| 11:31.52 | valdyn | ghostys: what is that file supposed to be? |
| 11:31.58 | nerdy2 | ghostys, what does ls -l ./file.bin say? |
| 11:32.12 | maxb | Is there a package which will query dpkg every night, and send an email reporting package installs/upgrades/removals ? |
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| 11:32.13 | ick | uince: you are doing something wrong when you have a need for that. |
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| 11:32.47 | ick | uince: you should consider pdf as something that's a final document. |
| 11:32.52 | ghostys | -rwx------ 1 user user 445055300 2004-01-28 21:17 ./file.bin |
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| 11:33.04 | ma3x | is there a dc++ for debian? |
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| 11:33.10 | valdyn | maxb: cron-apt i guess |
| 11:33.12 | Duelist | holy cow |
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| 11:33.14 | Guerin | uince: no such thing in free sfotware, as far as I know |
| 11:33.14 | ghostys | valdyn: it's a game server |
| 11:33.15 | valdyn | maxb: valknut |
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| 11:33.25 | Guerin | ma3x: /msg dpkg search |
| 11:33.26 | [Bart] | ma3x : dcgui ? |
| 11:33.29 | uince | but i just need too study from a pdf and i want to underline important parts |
| 11:33.33 | cy_ | hello |
| 11:33.40 | nerdy2 | ghostys, ok, so then you have permission to execute it if you are user "user" |
| 11:33.42 | valdyn | ma3x: valknut |
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| 11:33.49 | Guerin | uince: convert it to text and massage it that way |
| 11:33.50 | ick | uince: Then you could load it in a drawing program. |
| 11:34.01 | ma3x | dcgui or valknut? |
| 11:34.05 | JRWR | oh boy |
| 11:34.07 | ma3x | which one is morealike? |
| 11:34.11 | ick | uince: But you loose the ability to read it with a pdfreader. |
| 11:34.26 | [Bart] | never used valknut, so I don1t know that, sorry |
| 11:34.32 | JRWR | ive got to explane howto install debian as a webserver over the phone |
| 11:34.34 | ick | ma3x: imho DC++ is way superior to both. |
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| 11:34.48 | cy_ | is there anything to make apt colorful like emerge ? with intuitive colors ? |
| 11:35.01 | ghostys | nerdy2: that's correct so then why won't it work |
| 11:35.12 | ma3x | ick, there is no dc++ for linux |
| 11:35.17 | ick | ma3x: I know. |
| 11:35.18 | ghostys | ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin |
| 11:35.18 | ghostys | -bash: ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin: No such file or directory |
| 11:35.19 | Genghis | anyone an idea on why my outgoing traffic is being blocked when i use these iptable rules? --> http://paste.debian.net/3055 |
| 11:35.30 | ghostys | that's the bin file. |
| 11:35.35 | ick | ma3x: I just want to point out that you shouldn't expect to much of both. |
| 11:35.44 | valdyn | ghostys: try sh ./hlds_1120_full.bin |
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| 11:36.24 | ick | ma3x: It's like all features done for 90%(made up number), so the 10% missing makes the user experience horrible. |
| 11:36.25 | nerdy2 | (this huge game server is really a shell archive?) |
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| 11:37.10 | valdyn | Genghis: why dont you use the LOG target and attach an info on each LOG line as is supported by iptables? |
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| 11:38.20 | Genghis | well, i'm using apf to maintain the iptable rules |
| 11:38.28 | Genghis | and it logs trough ulogd |
| 11:38.34 | Genghis | but nothing happens tbh lol |
| 11:40.05 | nerdy2 | hmm the shar(1) page says "use of uuencode is not appreciated by many on the net" |
| 11:40.43 | [Bart] | a lot of email clients have problems with uuencode... |
| 11:40.45 | ghostys | valdyn: ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin: ./hlds_l_1120_full.bin: cannot execute binary file |
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| 11:41.13 | Genghis | ghostys |
| 11:41.27 | Genghis | chmod +x hlds_l_1120_full.bin ? |
| 11:42.05 | [Bart] | Genghis : that cant be the problem , becaue then you will receive the message execute permissions denied |
| 11:42.13 | ghostys | genghis: nup, still doesn't work |
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| 11:42.30 | ghostys | still getting: cannot execute binary file |
| 11:42.33 | [Bart] | ghostys : do: sh ./hlds_l ..... |
| 11:42.50 | cy_ | is there anything to make apt colorful like emerge ? with intuitive colors ? |
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| 11:43.11 | valdyn | cy_: probably not |
| 11:43.12 | [Bart] | cy_: by a new screen :) use synatpis or so.. |
| 11:43.15 | nerdy2 | ghostys, does ldd ./hlds... say useful things? |
| 11:43.18 | [Bart] | synatpic I mean |
| 11:43.26 | tchino | hello, i have problems to configurate putty under windows xp to login on my debian sarge server, exist a howto on this? |
| 11:43.30 | [Bart] | SYNAPTIC |
| 11:43.37 | [Bart] | difficult word :p |
| 11:43.59 | cy_ | hehe |
| 11:44.02 | ghostys | nerdy2: /usr/bin/ldd: line 1: /lib/ld-linux.so.2: No such file or directory |
| 11:44.02 | ghostys | ldd: /lib/ld-linux.so.2 exited with unknown exit code (127) |
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| 11:44.09 | cy_ | no, i mean colors but still term based.. |
| 11:44.26 | [Bart] | cy_: I dont think that exists. sorry |
| 11:44.41 | Genghis | valdyn: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=771967 |
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| 11:44.47 | amphi | cy_: 'intuitive colours'? |
| 11:44.50 | cy_ | np |
| 11:45.19 | cy_ | yeah, like green for things that will install.. red for things that need to be removed, and so on...... |
| 11:45.19 | nerdy2 | ghostys, does head ./hlds... say useful things? |
| 11:45.46 | ick | I get this error: usb1-2: Control timeout on ep0in. What's wrong? |
| 11:46.04 | valdyn | Genghis: cillie's message? what exactly.. |
| 11:46.06 | ghostys | ÿÐÃü;ÿuô[ì]ÃöUåì]ÃUåSè[Ãgè |
| 11:46.07 | ghostys | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:46.07 | ghostys | %s: %s, %s |
| 11:46.07 | ghostys | %s: %s |
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| 11:46.21 | Genghis | valdyn: read the entire posting |
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| 11:46.24 | ghostys | woops |
| 11:46.25 | Genghis | it will solve your prob |
| 11:46.27 | ghostys | soz |
| 11:46.31 | nerdy2 | heh my fault |
| 11:46.34 | ghostys | genghis: can you repeat |
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| 11:46.38 | valdyn | Genghis: oh i have no problem ), that was someone else |
| 11:46.39 | [Bart] | ghostys: does the file /lbi/ld-linux.so.2 exixst??? |
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| 11:46.46 | Genghis | ow sorry lol |
| 11:46.48 | ghostys | bart: no |
| 11:46.48 | sdakota | heya |
| 11:46.55 | Genghis | then it was ghostys |
| 11:47.04 | Genghis | ghostys : http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=771967 |
| 11:47.15 | [Bart] | ghostys : then you need to install it :) |
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| 11:47.43 | valdyn | ghostys: you arent trying to run that 32 bit executable on an amd64 system, are you? |
| 11:47.44 | eim | Some ideas on where to find pre-build nvidia-kernel-2.6.12 packages? (I don't want to rebuild the kernel) Thanks. |
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| 11:47.52 | valdyn | eim: you dont need to rebuild the kernel |
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| 11:47.56 | valdyn | !nvidia one-liner |
| 11:47.56 | dpkg | nvidia one-liner is probably update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 11:48.01 | [den] | this is english channel ??? |
| 11:48.02 | eim | valdyn: OK, thanks. |
| 11:48.09 | ick | valdyn: does that also work for Stable? |
| 11:48.10 | ghostys | valdyn: YES |
| 11:48.10 | valdyn | [den]: yes |
| 11:48.22 | valdyn | ick: yes |
| 11:48.22 | ghostys | valdyn: that would probably be why, well i was told it was 64bit |
| 11:48.29 | cy_ | http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/10/msg00002.html |
| 11:48.38 | sdakota | My nameserver isn't working - I'm running bind9 - when someone does a dig, the nameserver doesn't return anything - but it is running. |
| 11:48.41 | cy_ | noone did reply... |
| 11:48.47 | ghostys | bart: what pkg does it come with ? |
| 11:49.14 | valdyn | ghostys: 'file file.bin' should tell you |
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| 11:49.55 | [Bart] | ghostys : libc6 |
| 11:49.57 | sdakota | My nameserver isn't working - I'm running bind9 - when someone does a dig, the nameserver doesn't return anything - but it is running. want me to pastebin named.conf, domains.conf and the db file? |
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| 11:50.23 | valdyn | ghostys: now depending on which libraries that installer depends on you can _still_ use it, try installing ia32-libs |
| 11:51.00 | ghostys | valdyn: my system is running 2.6.8-11-amd64-generic |
| 11:51.31 | ghostys | i don't want 32bi library files. |
| 11:51.46 | valdyn | ghostys: well, then you cant run 32 bit installers for sure |
| 11:51.49 | sdakota | valdyn: could you help me with the DNS problem? bind9 isn't returning anything for the domain installed. |
| 11:52.11 | ghostys | hmm |
| 11:52.13 | [Bart] | sdakota : increase loglevel, and check bind logfile |
| 11:52.13 | valdyn | sdakota: no idea about bind9 really |
| 11:52.24 | ghostys | is their a way to tell wether the installer is 32bit or 64bit ? |
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| 11:52.36 | valdyn | ghostys: run 'file file.bin' |
| 11:52.50 | sdakota | [Bart], how to increase loglevel... and untill now bind logged to syslog, couldn't find any bind-only logfile |
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| 11:53.22 | sdakota | valdyn: it's probably the same as bind 8.2 |
| 11:53.54 | ghostys | valdyn: grrrr, hlds_l_1120_full.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), stripped |
| 11:53.58 | [Bart] | sdakota : you need to specify the logging entry and specify severity debug in it |
| 11:54.00 | ghostys | bumma |
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| 11:54.16 | [Bart] | ghostys : did you already install libc6? |
| 11:54.32 | valdyn | hell if he didnt have libc6 he could just reinstall |
| 11:54.48 | valdyn | but im sure he has that.. |
| 11:55.01 | [Bart] | correct, but the file doesnt exist... |
| 11:55.12 | [Bart] | at leatm thats what ghostys is saying :) |
| 11:55.15 | d4s | how can I know if I login as foo user and want to know whether I (foo) registered in sudoers |
| 11:55.18 | valdyn | [Bart]: that's just a misleading error message |
| 11:55.34 | ghostys | yes libc6 is installed. |
| 11:55.36 | sdakota | [Bart], "Specify the logging entry"? I searched named.conf, the only time the word "log" exists in named.conf, is in "logic". |
| 11:55.36 | valdyn | [Bart]: the 32-bit library doesnt exist |
| 11:55.40 | [Bart] | valdyn : he also said the fiel didnt exist.. |
| 11:55.40 | d4s | without using root acc |
| 11:55.53 | ghostys | bart: i think valdyn is correct. |
| 11:55.54 | ick | I get this error multiple times: usb1-2: Control timeout on ep0in. What's wrong? |
| 11:55.57 | ghostys | so what are my options ?? |
| 11:56.07 | ghostys | since there's no halflife dedicated 64bit d/l |
| 11:56.23 | valdyn | ghostys: install ia32-libs |
| 11:56.24 | ghostys | i might be able to find some 64bit .dll's somewhere |
| 11:56.39 | ghostys | ok |
| 11:56.42 | [Bart] | ghostys and valdyn: the run file needs that /lib/ld.. file,...without that it will not run... not? |
| 11:56.46 | sdakota | ghostys, dll's ? on linux? =S |
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| 11:56.54 | [Bart] | lol..dlls |
| 11:57.10 | sdakota | [Bart], "Specify the logging entry"? I searched named.conf, the only time the word "log" exists in named.conf, is in "logic". |
| 11:57.14 | ghostys | dedicated server |
| 11:57.38 | [Bart] | sdakota : thats to difficult to explain over irc. Check the manual pls |
| 11:57.46 | sdakota | ghostys, why doesn't the linux version of hlds work? |
| 11:57.57 | sdakota | [Bart]: where can I find the manual..... :/ |
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| 11:58.15 | valdyn | sdakota: hes trying to run a 32 bit executable in the absence of a 32-bit linker |
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| 11:59.03 | ghostys | sdakota: cause it's a 32bit file |
| 11:59.12 | ghostys | just installing 32bit support now |
| 11:59.19 | ghostys | i was told it was 64bit |
| 11:59.27 | sdakota | ghostys: ok... |
| 11:59.27 | ghostys | never had this problem as it's a new machine |
| 11:59.31 | ghostys | my other's are 32 |
| 11:59.33 | ghostys | :() |
| 11:59.47 | sdakota | ghostys, but there is a linux version of hlds, why doesn't that work? |
| 11:59.54 | sdakota | oo wait |
| 11:59.58 | sdakota | I understand |
| 12:00.00 | valdyn | sdakota: read what i wrote |
| 12:00.03 | valdyn | sdakota: nm |
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| 12:00.31 | ghostys | :P |
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| 12:00.41 | sdakota | ghostys: maybe it works if you run the windows version of hlds in wine or cedega or mono or anything? |
| 12:00.47 | ghostys | i had dramas wrapping my head around the whole 32bit/64bit shit |
| 12:00.59 | sdakota | ghostys, I think there is a 64bits version of wine, cedega, i thought |
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| 12:01.11 | ghostys | i thought about using wine |
| 12:01.16 | valdyn | cedega wont run in a 64-bit environment w/o linker either |
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| 12:01.31 | ut2004_seville | hello |
| 12:02.13 | ut2004_seville | i am spanish, excuse me if I have fatal errors in my lenguage |
| 12:02.19 | valdyn | ghostys: my hl server runs on debian/amd64, so yours shoudl too i guess since it doesnt seem to need any fancy libraries |
| 12:02.27 | blondie | ut2004_seville: yeah, spanish is a pretty poor language |
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| 12:02.39 | ghostys | valdyn: ok, just installed the 32bit libs |
| 12:02.42 | ghostys | what do you suggest now ? |
| 12:02.46 | valdyn | ghostys: ( beyond ia32-libs naturally ) |
| 12:02.47 | ghostys | sh ./file.bin it ? |
| 12:02.50 | valdyn | ghostys: run the install now |
| 12:02.54 | valdyn | ghostys: without the sh |
| 12:02.57 | ghostys | k |
| 12:03.19 | ghostys | :p |
| 12:03.34 | ut2004_seville | I have UT2004 but not can installer |
| 12:03.36 | ghostys | still it's only 32bit |
| 12:03.49 | valdyn | ghostys: that isnt a problem |
| 12:04.06 | ghostys | valdyn: won't the 64bit version run a lot better ? |
| 12:04.11 | ghostys | one would assume. |
| 12:04.12 | valdyn | ghostys: no |
| 12:04.17 | ghostys | valdyn: how so ? |
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| 12:04.44 | ghostys | valdyn: omg. |
| 12:04.46 | ghostys | Enter 'yes' to accept this agreement, 'no' to decline: yes |
| 12:04.46 | ghostys | extracting /usr/steam/hlds_l_1120_full.tgz... |
| 12:04.46 | ghostys | hlds_l_1120_full.bin: error extracting payload, No such file or directory |
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| 12:04.55 | ghostys | errr |
| 12:04.59 | ghostys | i keep forgetting |
| 12:05.14 | ghostys | did you get that valdyn ? |
| 12:05.26 | valdyn | ghostys: not the complete error i think |
| 12:05.35 | ick | I get this error multiple times: usb1-2: Control timeout on ep0in. What's wrong? |
| 12:05.58 | ghostys | valdyn: hlds_l_1120_full.bin: error extracting payload, No such file or directory |
| 12:06.15 | ut2004_seville | ut2004 in dvd, error in installation, help me? |
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| 12:07.00 | valdyn | ghostys: run that installer as root |
| 12:07.07 | valdyn | ghostys: oh OR |
| 12:07.31 | valdyn | ghostys: mkdir /etc/steam && chmod 777 /etc/steam ( both is fucking silly, but should work ) |
| 12:08.00 | ghostys | this isn't steam though |
| 12:08.01 | ghostys | it's hlds |
| 12:08.06 | ghostys | steam will come after. |
| 12:08.26 | valdyn | ghostys: im reading this on this message board as fix for your literal error: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?postid=771967 |
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| 12:09.04 | ghostys | ahh |
| 12:09.42 | valdyn | ghostys: looks to me like you should just run that installer as root since its going to dump stuff in /usr/ anyway |
| 12:09.47 | ghostys | nup still that same error with that dir made |
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| 12:10.02 | ghostys | valdyn: it still doesn't work under root anyway. |
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| 12:10.44 | valdyn | ghostys: keep reading the message board, its all there |
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| 12:11.05 | superserw | hi |
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| 12:12.41 | ghostys | valdyn: just read it |
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| 12:14.19 | ghostys | valdyn: ok, done. |
| 12:14.22 | ghostys | ta |
| 12:14.24 | ghostys | for your help. |
| 12:14.30 | ghostys | muchly appreciated. |
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| 12:18.41 | ma3x | why is valknut using %80 of cpu? |
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| 12:19.09 | tof | hi, I took lots (hmm 25) pictures with my son from his little cars in order to make a little film. Do you know how I can join the jpeg photos to an avi video? Any idea of soft to play with that (add sound, music, delay between images...)? |
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| 12:19.21 | valdyn | !tell Maledict -about away |
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| 12:19.51 | Eulex | tof, mplayer can do that |
| 12:20.01 | Eulex | tof, umh, mencoder, I mean |
| 12:20.05 | cy_ | where could i get the latest cvs snapshot of apt 0.6.43 ? |
| 12:20.30 | valdyn | cy_: why the hell would you risk that? |
| 12:20.44 | tof | Eulex, thanks I'll read the mencoder doc! |
| 12:20.45 | cy_ | valdyn; want to add colors :/ |
| 12:20.50 | azeem | colors? |
| 12:20.56 | cy_ | yeah, colors |
| 12:21.08 | azeem | cy_: apt is currently maintained in arch/bzr, I think |
| 12:21.08 | cy_ | http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/10/msg00002.html |
| 12:21.08 | valdyn | cy_: but you dont really value having a functional system, do you? |
| 12:21.22 | cy_ | why not ? |
| 12:21.37 | Eulex | tof, search the mencoder man page for mf://*.jpg |
| 12:21.43 | cy_ | i just to recompile the apt.mo |
| 12:21.51 | cy_ | with some colors init |
| 12:21.55 | cy_ | isnt that possible ? |
| 12:22.00 | azeem | valdyn: I assume cy_ just wants to check out the source, not install it |
| 12:22.05 | valdyn | cy_: apt-get source apt |
| 12:22.09 | cy_ | did so |
| 12:22.12 | cy_ | cant compile it |
| 12:22.16 | azeem | eh |
| 12:22.20 | valdyn | cy_: you can |
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| 12:22.39 | azeem | cy_: then you should get it to compile, the devel branch will not be easier |
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| 12:23.09 | cy_ | http://sial.org/pbot/14771 |
| 12:23.17 | valdyn | cy_: apt-get build-dep apt; apt-get source apt; modify whatever, cd apt*, fakeroot dpkg-buildpackage |
| 12:23.25 | cy_ | what is it lacking then ? |
| 12:23.29 | tof | Eulex, thanx! |
| 12:23.55 | amphi | tof: you can add audio to it with mencoder |
| 12:24.11 | Eulex | tof, I asked the same thing on #mplayer yesterday. there's a small catch: |
| 12:24.41 | Eulex | tof, <reimar> Eulex: well, if you want the technical description: pre7 will not work with jpgs that have a restart interval (to allow for error recovery) |
| 12:24.45 | niklas`` | hi, i'm running unstable with Xorg and gnome and a few days ago the fan on the gpu decided it was tiem to start spinning up and down alot wich is something it never did in the past |
| 12:24.51 | Eulex | tof, pre7 is the one available from marillat |
| 12:24.56 | niklas`` | this is after a dist-upgrade |
| 12:24.58 | cy_ | thought so too azeem .. but i doesnt seem to be able to compile the released one either.. mhh.. |
| 12:25.06 | cy_ | valdyn; thanks, im going to try that.. |
| 12:25.16 | Eulex | tof, <reimar> most tools will not create such, but a lot of webcams do. |
| 12:25.28 | niklas`` | using a X800pro with fglrx and dual flatscreens connected on DVI |
| 12:25.35 | amphi | tof: convert them to tga images and encode them; tga always works well for me, whereas mencoder dislikes png fpr some reason |
| 12:26.45 | rvalles | I moved my root partition from an scsi disk to an ide one |
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| 12:26.58 | cy_ | nice valdyn . :) |
| 12:27.02 | rvalles | now initrd cannot load the modules for ide when trying to boot it |
| 12:27.18 | tof | amphi, Eulex thanks for your help! I have another pb : I can do man mencoder, but the command mencoder doesn't work!! And apt-cache search mencoder says nothing :-( |
| 12:27.22 | rvalles | how do I make a new initrd in a debian fashion? |
| 12:27.57 | Eulex | tof, install mencoder-586 |
| 12:28.22 | Eulex | tof, have you got marillat added as an apt source |
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| 12:29.13 | gnd | is there any other commander style program like Krusader? |
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| 12:29.58 | pureone | what does krusader do? |
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| 12:30.15 | amphi | gnd: mc, emelfm, gentoo, ... |
| 12:30.29 | gnd | it's like windows commander |
| 12:30.29 | tof | Eulex, no I suppressed it for a forgotten reason. I install everything and come back to tell you if the movie convinced my son to become a realisator :-) |
| 12:30.34 | amphi | gnd: assuming you mean a two-pane file manager ;) |
| 12:30.34 | gnd | or total comander |
| 12:30.42 | gnd | amphi: exactly |
| 12:30.43 | gnd | thanks! |
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| 12:30.52 | qazwiz-connx-err | thanks! :) |
| 12:31.05 | Eulex | tof, eh? |
| 12:31.25 | amphi | gnd: softpanorama.org has a list of them I think - look for 'orthodox file manager' |
| 12:31.55 | rvalles | I moved my root partition from an scsi disk to an ide one; now initrd cannot load the modules for ide when trying to boot it because they're not in the initrd. How do I make a new initrd in a debian fashion? |
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| 12:32.18 | niklas`` | rvalles: mkinitrd i think |
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| 12:33.10 | amphi | tof: FWIW, the mencoder docs have an example for exactly what you're trying to do IIRC - easier than wading through mencoder's manual |
| 12:33.17 | Baeaeken | When im running grub-install /dev/sda i get this error message end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0 |
| 12:33.25 | valdyn | rvalles: you are using a .deb to install your kernel? |
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| 12:33.35 | rvalles | valdyn: I'm using the kernel that came by default |
| 12:33.49 | rvalles | valdyn: thing is... it detected hardware and stuff, and created the initrd according to that, I guess |
| 12:33.52 | valdyn | rvalles: ok, add the missing driver to /etc/mkinitrd/modules and just reinstall that kernel |
| 12:34.13 | rvalles | valdyn: reinstall that kernel -> its package? |
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| 12:34.24 | valdyn | rvalles: yea, it wont automatically add secondary controllers to your initrd ( which your IDE thing is if you boot from scsi ) |
| 12:34.43 | valdyn | rvalles: correct, initrd gets generated on install |
| 12:34.57 | niklas`` | anyone happend to know of any recent changes in Xorg or gnome that puts a lot more load on the graphicscard? |
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| 12:35.50 | tchino | Can somebody helps me? With which program can i access on my debian server from windows |
| 12:36.04 | niklas`` | tchino: install samba on your debian box |
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| 12:36.13 | cahoot | tchino: ssh via putty |
| 12:36.15 | Akbar | tchino, putty |
| 12:36.16 | valdyn | tchino: with putty on windnows |
| 12:36.17 | ghostys | how can i preform a chown and chgrp cmd when wanting to do it to /home/dir/dir/contents ? |
| 12:36.25 | ghostys | all at the same time. |
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| 12:36.31 | bbrazil | ghostys: xargs |
| 12:36.34 | valdyn | ghostys: -R |
| 12:36.52 | ghostys | valdyn: can i chown and chgrp at the same time ? |
| 12:37.04 | blondie | chgrp && chown |
| 12:37.06 | bbrazil | ghostys: yes, chown user.group |
| 12:37.15 | ghostys | excellent |
| 12:37.20 | blondie | user:group is prefereable |
| 12:37.21 | blondie | -e |
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| 12:37.59 | ghostys | so; chown -e -r user.group /home/dir/dir/contents |
| 12:38.00 | ghostys | ? |
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| 12:38.29 | valdyn | ghostys: its a big R |
| 12:38.35 | ghostys | ahh ok |
| 12:38.35 | ghostys | np |
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| 12:38.57 | valdyn | ghostys: and -e doesnt seem to exist |
| 12:39.04 | ghostys | valdyn: yup :p |
| 12:39.09 | ghostys | <blondie> user:group is prefereable |
| 12:39.09 | ghostys | <blondie> -e |
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| 12:39.21 | Akbar | lol |
| 12:39.21 | blondie | I misspelt preferable |
| 12:39.30 | ghostys | oh |
| 12:39.33 | ghostys | lmao |
| 12:39.33 | ghostys | :P |
| 12:39.34 | ghostys | hehe |
| 12:39.35 | iUninstall | I can't install kde on my debian testing powerpc |
| 12:39.36 | ghostys | soz blondie. |
| 12:39.41 | blondie | :P |
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| 12:39.59 | Akbar | kde is broken at the moment right |
| 12:40.11 | azeem | yes |
| 12:40.11 | Akbar | iUninstall, try kde-core.. |
| 12:40.12 | blondie | kde is always broken ;) |
| 12:40.15 | tchino | cahoot: i have putty, but with al settings the windows shut down without messages, what is wrong, which settings i have to do on my debian server, under a linux-debian client, i can access on my debian server |
| 12:40.19 | azeem | blondie: no |
| 12:40.37 | blondie | azeem: oh, it's intentionally shit? :P |
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| 12:40.38 | iUninstall | because libboost-python1.33.0 is missing |
| 12:40.41 | brosio | blondie: only in debian :D |
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| 12:40.50 | blondie | pffft |
| 12:41.02 | iUninstall | And I can't find PearPC |
| 12:41.10 | Akbar | pearpc? |
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| 12:41.19 | Akbar | pearpc deb? :P |
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| 12:41.36 | iUninstall | Akbar, I want emulate a PowerPC on my PowerPC |
| 12:41.42 | azeem | oh right, this is #debian, so let's just bash everything we don't like |
| 12:41.50 | valdyn | !info pearpc |
| 12:42.00 | dpkg | pearpc: (PowerPC architecture emulator), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.3.1+1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 301 kB, Installed size: 812 kB |
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| 12:42.39 | tchino | valdyn: which settings do you have in putty under windows xp |
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| 12:42.53 | valdyn | tchino: the defaults |
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| 12:43.01 | blondie | tchino: just type the hostname in and click COnnect :P |
| 12:43.13 | blondie | sorry, Open not Connect |
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| 12:43.39 | ghostys | if for example i wanted to create 20 users can i do this at the same time using the same password ? |
| 12:43.48 | liran | to have php installed on my system like required by some package will the following do the job: apt-get install php4 php4-cli php4-common php4-dev php4-cgi php4-mysql libapache-mod-php4 |
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| 12:44.30 | tchino | blondie: valdyn: but the windows shut always down, when i opened the session |
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| 12:45.02 | Akbar | tchino, do you have a connection to the box? |
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| 12:45.12 | blondie | is ssh running, and can you ping the box? |
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| 12:45.48 | tchino | Akbar: from linux-client -> yes, but not under windows, a ping is going right under command-line |
| 12:45.54 | ghostys | is this possible ? |
| 12:46.05 | ghostys | do add more then one user to a machine using the same password ? |
| 12:46.14 | blondie | ghostys: look in auth.log |
| 12:46.16 | bbrazil | ghostys: what exactly are you trying to do? |
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| 12:46.39 | Akbar | tchino, no I meant a tcp/ip connection |
| 12:46.44 | ghostys | i want to use the adduser command to add more then one user |
| 12:46.52 | sussudio | ... |
| 12:46.53 | ghostys | so i don't have to add 20 accounts seperatly. |
| 12:46.59 | bbrazil | ghostys: it can only go one at a time, but there is another command for that |
| 12:47.00 | ghostys | they all have the same password. |
| 12:47.02 | Akbar | like blondie said.. can you ping the box .. ping blah-ip |
| 12:47.08 | sussudio | test |
| 12:47.13 | sussudio | !test |
| 12:47.13 | dpkg | No, sussudio, you're not online any more. |
| 12:47.15 | blondie | sussudio: fail |
| 12:47.32 | tchino | Akbar: samba-connection is going right |
| 12:47.52 | goron | A lot of people seem to have this problem: usb 1-2: control timeout on ep0in |
| 12:47.57 | blondie | tchino: have you looked in /var/log/auth.log ? |
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| 12:48.12 | goron | But I can't find a solution in all the "me too" posts. |
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| 12:48.25 | smesjz | does any know if the GCC 4.0 package is broken? When I compile (php 5.1.1) on debian sid I get a lot of 'differ in signedness' warnings while previous php releases compiled clean. Is php5 to blame or the gcc-4.0.2 package from Debian? |
| 12:48.29 | valdyn | goron: what's your real problem? |
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| 12:48.40 | ghostys | bbrazil: do you know what it is ? |
| 12:48.55 | bbrazil | ghostys: newusers |
| 12:48.56 | valdyn | smesjz: older gcc probably didnt warn about that. |
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| 12:49.03 | tchino | blondie: wait i look |
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| 12:49.18 | goron | valdyn: I want to reduce the number of error messages to zero, and then add stuff. Otherwise it just gets a mess. |
| 12:49.33 | valdyn | goron: thats the wrong approach |
| 12:49.36 | georges_ | hi. is there something like "cdparanoia" but for data CDs. I have a CD with some scratches and one file has errors. |
| 12:49.51 | smesjz | valdyn: I compiled 5.0.5 with gcc-4.0 as well, which compiled clean. So I don't know if I can trust the compiled php package .... |
| 12:50.08 | valdyn | !warning |
| 12:50.08 | dpkg | Yerp, lots of software outputs warnings. Kernel module warnings on boot, mplayer warnings, GTK warnings, X11 warnings, build warnings, gpg warnings. Don't be scared - informative output is a GOOD THING. Consider yourself warned, and if the program works as expected, be happy. |
| 12:50.44 | valdyn | smesjz: you can ask the php devs about this.. |
| 12:51.01 | smesjz | will do. thanx |
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| 12:52.10 | goron | valdyn: Is there a convention for things that are "errors". E.g. the use of "error" in a message? |
| 12:52.14 | ghostys | hmm cool |
| 12:53.22 | tchino | blondie: i have only one screen, i must switch between the two pc's |
| 12:53.46 | tchino | there stands nothing, that i have not access to debian |
| 12:54.20 | goron | How can I see current throughput on the cli in a continous updated manner? |
| 12:54.27 | blondie | well you're probably using putty incorrectly |
| 12:54.28 | valdyn | goron: that is an 'error' but if such an error does not break functionality, who cares..Feel free to debug your kernel and your hardware to search for who is to blame though |
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| 12:55.26 | valdyn | goron: network? |
| 12:55.41 | goron | valdyn: yes |
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| 12:55.53 | lobomufas | jo |
| 12:55.54 | valdyn | goron: iptraf, iftop |
| 12:55.58 | lobomufas | s/jo/hi |
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| 12:56.31 | bruc1 | hi |
| 12:56.40 | tchino | blondie: yes, i understand, but where can i search to find my mistake |
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| 12:56.50 | Sevein | jo, :) |
| 12:57.08 | blondie | tchino: how are you using it? |
| 12:57.24 | blondie | tchino: just run putty.exe, type the linux box's hostname or IP and click OPn |
| 12:57.29 | blondie | *Open |
| 12:58.03 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 12:58.03 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 12:58.04 | Akbar | tchino, use the internal LAN ip |
| 12:58.06 | tarzeau | !debstats |
| 12:58.07 | dpkg | somebody said debstats was managed by sussudio, or http://debstats.dontexist.org/ |
| 12:58.13 | bruc1 | Does anyone can helpo to configure my dual-screen with xorg? (I've got matrox card) |
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| 12:59.12 | linoleum | hello, I try to install KDE paquage, but it gives me error , because of some dependencies... so I installed the kdebase paquage ... but how can I install the KDE paquage then? |
| 12:59.18 | tchino | my ip-adress of my server is 192.168.1.33, but when i logg in, it ask my username and my password, i type in, but windows closed without messages |
| 12:59.35 | Akbar | tchino, ohh so you have a connection? |
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| 12:59.50 | blondie | tchino: maybe the password is wrong |
| 12:59.58 | blondie | I should think auth.log would record that |
| 13:00.37 | georges_ | hi. is there something like "cdparanoia" but for data CDs. I have a CD with some scratches and one of the files has errors. |
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| 13:00.41 | tchino | blondie: but under linux, i can login |
| 13:00.47 | tarzeau | georges_: readcd |
| 13:00.51 | blondie | georges_: deja vu |
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| 13:00.58 | georges_ | thnks |
| 13:00.59 | Akbar | tchino, are you sure you used the right password, is your capslock on? :P using root account to login? |
| 13:01.04 | tarzeau | georges_: tried to clean the cd surface with a metallic fork? |
| 13:01.19 | azeem | a metallic fork? |
| 13:01.33 | georges_ | not really but... well... it was laying on the floor for some time without me noticing |
| 13:01.40 | tarzeau | i'm not a native english, soft tissue might be better |
| 13:01.54 | tchino | Akbar: when i log as root, the same happens, my capslock is not on |
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| 13:02.00 | Akbar | tchino, yes you can login on the box itself because you're logging in from the 'localhost' |
| 13:02.13 | georges_ | first try is to read without scratching more on the surface. later I'll try to polish |
| 13:02.22 | Akbar | yeah root logins are probably disabled by default |
| 13:02.22 | blondie | tchino: you sure there's nothing in /var/log/auth.log ? |
| 13:02.32 | blondie | Akbar: nah they aren't on debian |
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| 13:02.39 | blondie | not on SSH anyway |
| 13:02.41 | Akbar | oh |
| 13:02.45 | blondie | (stupidly) |
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| 13:03.21 | Akbar | yeah tchino, 'cat /var/log/auth.log' |
| 13:03.25 | tchino | blondie: wait i take my small screen from the cellar and connect it on my server |
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| 13:03.36 | Shorty` | hahahahah |
| 13:03.36 | Shorty` | http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5393904704265757054 |
| 13:03.44 | blondie | good idea |
| 13:04.07 | edrin | what mediaplayer can you recommend? (on KDE) this noatun always crashs |
| 13:04.15 | tarzeau | edrin: mplayer |
| 13:04.18 | blondie | mplayer or vlc |
| 13:04.27 | Akbar | xine :P |
| 13:04.44 | amphi | mplayer |
| 13:04.45 | Akbar | kde and totem :P |
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| 13:05.44 | Akbar | edrin kaffeine is pretty nice.. |
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| 13:07.05 | bruc1 | which backdor must we use for mplayer? |
| 13:07.35 | Akbar | backdoor? |
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| 13:08.39 | bbrazil | bruc1: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 13:08.54 | bruc1 | I mean apt-get can't install mplayer right, o I should ad another source to /etc/apt/sourcelist.. |
| 13:09.08 | Akbar | bruc1, use the marrilat repository.. |
| 13:09.31 | azeem | !marillat |
| 13:09.31 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 13:09.46 | georges_ | tarzeau: blondie: is readcd or deja vu windows software? I can't find it in debian package list |
| 13:09.51 | bruc1 | yes i DO |
| 13:09.58 | tarzeau | georges_: no it's for debian, in cdrecord |
| 13:10.06 | tarzeau | georges_: no idea about deja vu |
| 13:10.06 | georges_ | aaah |
| 13:10.17 | blondie | hahaha |
| 13:10.25 | blondie | I said deja vu because you asked the same question twice :P |
| 13:10.51 | georges_ | well, on my first time noone answered. |
| 13:11.06 | blondie | irrelevent ;P |
| 13:11.07 | georges_ | ok, found the thing. |
| 13:11.38 | azeem | blondie: it is fine to restate questions after a considerable amount of time, IMHO, where "considerable" depends on the amount /joins and /parts |
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| 13:12.05 | blondie | azeem: it was 10 minutes |
| 13:12.09 | tchino | Akbar: i see (pam_unix) session opened/closed for user root/tchino |
| 13:12.18 | azeem | yeah... |
| 13:12.21 | bruc1 | I instaled mplayer and when I lauch gmplayer it answer me "Failed to open /dev/rtc: Permission denied (it should be readable by the user.) |
| 13:12.21 | bruc1 | Opening joystick device /dev/input/js0 |
| 13:12.21 | bruc1 | Can't open joystick device /dev/input/js0 : Permission denied |
| 13:12.21 | bruc1 | Can't init input joystick |
| 13:12.21 | bruc1 | Setting up LIRC support... |
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| 13:12.24 | blondie | spam |
| 13:12.55 | azeem | blondie: well, then "deja vu" doesn't help much, you should rather spell it out a bit more explicitely |
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| 13:13.30 | blondie | azeem: seemed obvious to me :P |
| 13:13.43 | azeem | irrelevant :P |
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| 13:14.28 | tchino | Akbar: when login over localhost, i get a network connection refused |
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| 13:14.47 | Akbar | tchino, ps -e|grep ftp |
| 13:14.53 | Akbar | I mean |
| 13:14.56 | Akbar | tchino, ps -e|grep ssh |
| 13:14.56 | blondie | I thought this was ssh not ftp |
| 13:14.57 | bruc1 | so what was the problem with mplayer why didn't I got the interface? |
| 13:14.58 | blondie | hmm |
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| 13:15.08 | blondie | tchino: ssh 192.168.1.33 from there? |
| 13:15.12 | tchino | i have a windows client |
| 13:15.22 | Akbar | dude on your debian box |
| 13:15.25 | azeem | bruc1: paste the error at pastebin |
| 13:15.26 | Akbar | do a ps -e|grep ssh |
| 13:15.29 | azeem | !paster |
| 13:15.29 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 13:16.46 | bruc1 | what's the adress of pastbin? |
| 13:16.51 | tchino | blondie: from my server, i can login on localhost |
| 13:17.09 | blondie | tchino: I thought you couldn't? |
| 13:17.15 | Akbar | huh? |
| 13:17.32 | tchino | blondie: from my windows-client, i cannot |
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| 13:17.38 | MaikeLoOO | hi |
| 13:17.52 | blondie | 13:14:28 < tchino> Akbar: when login over localhost, i get a network connection refused |
| 13:17.56 | blondie | ? |
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| 13:18.05 | MaikeLoOO | i've trident , i add support for fb on kernel, i need to add any line to grub for load it |
| 13:18.05 | MaikeLoOO | ? |
| 13:18.25 | tchino | Akbar: ps -e|grep ssh -> 1004 ? 00:00:00 sshd |
| 13:18.27 | blondie | tchino: can you do "ssh 192.168.1.33"? |
| 13:18.33 | Akbar | okay |
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| 13:18.55 | tchino | blondie: under debian-server it goes right, but not with putty |
| 13:19.15 | blondie | well erm |
| 13:19.20 | Akbar | this is just weird.. |
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| 13:19.36 | tchino | exist a command-line tool, where can login over sshe from windows to my debian client |
| 13:19.44 | goron | I have a configuration for cups from FreeBSD, will this one work unchanged for Debian? |
| 13:19.46 | tchino | over ssh! |
| 13:20.02 | Akbar | a commandline tool for setting up the ssh tunnel on windows? |
| 13:20.02 | blondie | putty works |
| 13:20.26 | blondie | have you been playined with sshd_config? |
| 13:20.33 | blondie | *playing |
| 13:20.33 | blondie | grr |
| 13:20.34 | tchino | blondie: yes but my puuty!? |
| 13:20.48 | blondie | tchino: it should work, so make it work :P |
| 13:20.55 | blondie | I doubt anythign else will work if it won't |
| 13:21.11 | bbrazil | goron: possibly |
| 13:21.37 | goron | bbrazil: I will first try to do it the Debian way. |
| 13:21.38 | tchino | can we compare /etcssh/sshd_config |
| 13:21.49 | tchino | /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 13:21.50 | Akbar | :D |
| 13:21.57 | sdakota | back |
| 13:22.11 | sdakota | =) |
| 13:22.12 | bbrazil | goron: I'd just try the freebsd config first |
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| 13:22.15 | bruc1 | here is the erros that send me mplayer |
| 13:22.16 | bruc1 | http://pastebin.com/448231 |
| 13:22.23 | sdakota | anyone who can help me with my dns problem? |
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| 13:22.36 | sdakota | my nameserver isn't giving back anything for the domain |
| 13:22.57 | Akbar | tchino, do you have a sshd_config or did you modify it? |
| 13:23.09 | Akbar | a default sshd_config |
| 13:23.12 | bbrazil | sdakota: rndc reload, and check the logs |
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| 13:23.14 | blondie | tchino: ok, http://pastebin.com/448233 |
| 13:23.23 | sdakota | bbrazil: sec... |
| 13:23.26 | Akbar | okay |
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| 13:23.39 | sdakota | bbrazil, rndc: connection refused |
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| 13:24.08 | bbrazil | sdakota: bind isn't running. check the logs, probably a config error |
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| 13:24.15 | blondie | tchino: note I have changed PermitRootLogin and added AllowGroups |
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| 13:24.45 | sdakota | bbrazil: it is |
| 13:24.59 | goron | Under FreeBSD I could replace the system lpr with the Cups lpr, and this thus gave every application instant printing ability. Is there something in Debian for this? |
| 13:25.07 | Pimpinella | sdakota: do you run bind in a chroot? |
| 13:25.10 | sdakota | bbrazil: named is running I mean |
| 13:25.11 | blondie | tchino: have you got the latest putty and told it to use SSH rather than telnet? |
| 13:25.26 | bbrazil | goron: cupsys-bsd or something like that |
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| 13:25.36 | sdakota | Pimpinella, not that I know - I'm just using the debian package (though I moved the configuration files and created symlinks) |
| 13:25.39 | bbrazil | sdakota: bind8 or 9? |
| 13:25.43 | sdakota | bbrazil, bind9 |
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| 13:26.12 | tchino | blondie: my PermitRootLogin is no and i don't have AlloGroups |
| 13:26.25 | Akbar | tchino, that's okay |
| 13:26.26 | sdakota | Pimpinella, cp * /configfiles/bind/; rm *; ln -s /configfiles/bind/* . |
| 13:26.30 | takatumi | goron: there's lprng as well. |
| 13:26.34 | bbrazil | sdakota: netstat -nlp, whats listening on 53 and 953? |
| 13:27.24 | sdakota | bbrazil: nothing |
| 13:27.25 | Guerin | named |
| 13:27.32 | Guerin | sdakota: be root |
| 13:27.38 | sdakota | bbrazil: you're right - it's probably not running |
| 13:27.40 | bbrazil | sdakota: then named isn't running |
| 13:27.41 | goron | takatumi: and that works together with cups? |
| 13:27.41 | sdakota | Guerin: I am root |
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| 13:27.47 | sdakota | bbrazil: i'll check syslog |
| 13:27.52 | streuner | netstat -pant | grep named |
| 13:28.02 | bbrazil | Guerin: actually as non-root it'll still run, the -p just doesn't work |
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| 13:28.15 | Guerin | bbrazil: the useful bit, you mean |
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| 13:28.33 | takatumi | goron: no, cupsys-bsd conflicts |
| 13:28.52 | bbrazil | Guerin: not when bind isn't running :) |
| 13:29.14 | sdakota | bbrazil, Huh? Missing ; before include... sec (*feels ashamed*) that wasn't like that yesterday o.O |
| 13:29.15 | gnd | I am trying to recompile the kernel with fakeroot make-kpkg --revision custom.1.0 kernel_image modules_image but I get an error and the ./debian/changelog file exists and has a different value for the --revision flag |
| 13:29.26 | goron | takatumi: Well, I want Cups since that's what I am used to. The very moment I can install lprng, and have it Just Work(TM) I will use that. |
| 13:29.46 | bbrazil | gnd: make-kpkg clean |
| 13:29.58 | goron | All these printcap configuration were just too complex. |
| 13:30.04 | bbrazil | sdakota: those ; are really annoying alright |
| 13:30.06 | goron | er *s |
| 13:30.13 | gnd | bbrazil: thank you! |
| 13:30.23 | tchino | blondie: now i get acces denied |
| 13:30.27 | sdakota | bbrazil:Dec 4 14:29:39 server1 named[13062]: dns_master_load: /configfiles/bind/domains/dazjorz.com.db:24: dazjorz.com.dazjorz.com: not at top of zone |
| 13:30.35 | sdakota | bbrazil: Dec 4 14:29:39 server1 named[13062]: zone dazjorz.com/IN: loading master file /configfiles/bind/domains/dazjorz.com.db: not at top of zone |
| 13:30.45 | sdakota | bbrazil: Dec 4 14:29:39 server1 named[13062]: running |
| 13:30.53 | bbrazil | sdakota: you're missing some . |
| 13:31.08 | gnd | bbrazil: I still get However, the ./debian/changelog file exists, and has a different value |
| 13:31.20 | sdakota | bbrazil: do I need to put a dot after $ORIGIN? (it's currently $ORIGIN dazjorz.com) |
| 13:31.30 | bbrazil | gnd: bah, been a while. make clean maybe? |
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| 13:31.59 | bbrazil | sdakota: yes |
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| 13:32.16 | sdakota | bbrazil: the errors are away in the syslog now ^^ i'll try to redig |
| 13:32.21 | sdakota | re-dig... |
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| 13:32.38 | sdakota | Dec 4 14:31:57 server1 named[13062]: dns_master_load: /configfiles/bind/domains/dazjorz.com.db:40: mail.dazjorz.com: CNAME and other dataDec 4 14:31:57 server1 named[13062]: zone dazjorz.com/IN: loading master file /configfiles/bind/domains/dazjorz.com.db: CNAME and other data |
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| 13:33.03 | bbrazil | sdakota: could you put the zonefile in a pastebin? |
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| 13:33.11 | sdakota | bbrazil: no problem - sec |
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| 13:33.45 | cbr | how can i change the console font in debian to something that supports utf8? |
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| 13:34.34 | sdakota | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1214 |
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| 13:35.15 | sdakota | bbrazil: above line was pastebin |
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| 13:35.29 | bruc1 | hi |
| 13:35.31 | takatumi | cbr: http://melkor.dnp.fmph.uniba.sk/~garabik/debian-utf8/HOWTO/howto.html might help. |
| 13:35.43 | bruc1 | wich plugin do you advise me to see video with mozilla? |
| 13:35.56 | edrin | i wanna play quake; i get teh error: Sys_Error: GLimp_Init() - could not load OpenGL subsystem |
| 13:35.58 | bruc1 | kaffeine,vlc r mplayer or another one? |
| 13:36.00 | edrin | what's wrong? |
| 13:36.07 | bbrazil | sdakota: you're mx record is probably wonrg - it only affects mail.daz |
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| 13:36.11 | bbrazil | *your |
| 13:36.33 | sdakota | bbrazil: what's wrong with the mx record? :/ |
| 13:37.05 | bbrazil | sdakota: its semantically correct, but I don't think it does what you think it does |
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| 13:37.55 | Guerin | !uni_vga |
| 13:37.55 | dpkg | i heard uni_vga is see http://www.inp.nsk.su/~bolkhov/files/fonts/univga/ for a good unicode font for both console and x |
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| 13:38.03 | Guerin | cbr: ^ |
| 13:38.13 | sdakota | bbrazil: so what does it do wrong? :/ |
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| 13:38.26 | sdakota | bbrazil: it should send all mail to mail.dazjorz.com |
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| 13:38.42 | bbrazil | sdakota: that MX record applies to mail.daz, you don't have a MX record for daz.com |
| 13:38.58 | sdakota | Oo! |
| 13:39.02 | sdakota | remove the mail. ? |
| 13:39.11 | bbrazil | sdakota: everytihng will still work as MTAs will fall back to the A record as there's no MX record |
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| 13:39.23 | Guerin | but it's broken |
| 13:39.27 | sdakota | so it has to be: IN MX 10 dazjorz.com. |
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| 13:39.41 | bbrazil | sdakota: no, move the MX bit to just after the NS |
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| 13:39.42 | Guerin | and some remote MTAs will freak at you |
| 13:39.48 | sdakota | of: mail IN MX 10 dazjorz.com. |
| 13:39.52 | sdakota | bbrazil: Ok |
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| 13:40.18 | bbrazil | sdakota: also iirc an MX record shouldn't point to a cname |
| 13:40.27 | Guerin | no |
| 13:40.27 | sdakota | !tell me about iirc |
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| 13:40.44 | Guerin | and for clarity's sake it's saner to specify the whole fqdn |
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| 13:40.58 | sdakota | bbrazil: ok, I'll repost the file as it is now |
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| 13:41.15 | Guerin | so instead of mail IN MX 10 foo.com., do mail.bar.org. IN MX 10 foo.com. |
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| 13:42.35 | sdakota | Guerin / bbrazil: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1215 |
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| 13:42.49 | goron | I can start the x server as root, and get a gnome-session, but it doesn't work for a normal user? |
| 13:43.09 | goron | It does start an xsession, but the DE isn't loaded. |
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| 13:43.14 | bbrazil | sdakota: thats definitely not what you want |
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| 13:43.44 | sdakota | bbrazil: guerin told me to put mail.dazjorz.com. in mx 10 dazjorz.com. |
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| 13:44.10 | blondie | sdakota: that's not what you put though, is it |
| 13:44.21 | bbrazil | sdakota: I don't agree with him |
| 13:44.29 | bbrazil | sdakota: and you did what he said wrong |
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| 13:45.23 | bbrazil | sdakota: what you want is: IN MX 10 server1.dazjorz.com. |
| 13:45.53 | usn | good afternoon |
| 13:46.09 | KomiaPoika | hi |
| 13:46.25 | KomiaPoika | i just installed debian on my laptop but it boots in console mode. how do i set up xorg? |
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| 13:47.16 | metaperl | KomiaPoika: my guess is you just install the packages and some config screens will come up... it's been awhile since I did it |
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| 13:47.28 | Guerin | oh, is dazjors.com a cname? |
| 13:47.33 | sdakota | bbrazil: ok... |
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| 13:48.02 | sdakota | Yeaa It gives back something now... ^^ |
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| 13:48.13 | bbrazil | Guerin: no, it has an A record |
| 13:48.23 | KomiaPoika | metaperl: where do i see list of installed packages? |
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| 13:48.29 | takatumi | KomiaPoika: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 13:48.51 | bbrazil | sdakota: could you paste it again just to be sure? |
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| 13:49.26 | KomiaPoika | how do i activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option? |
| 13:49.39 | sdakota | bbrazil: sec |
| 13:49.50 | KomiaPoika | apt-get update tells me i should activate it |
| 13:49.53 | KomiaPoika | but how |
| 13:50.14 | Guerin | KomiaPoika: /msg dpkg loopbreak |
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| 13:50.32 | madnux | hi |
| 13:50.40 | thma | ty |
| 13:50.41 | metaperl | madnux: hi |
| 13:50.54 | takatumi | strand that he would need loopbreak on a fresh install. |
| 13:51.01 | takatumi | s/nd/nge |
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| 13:51.20 | sdakota | bbrazil: I just changed the MX record - did a DNS report, it's working nicely now =) |
| 13:51.44 | KomiaPoika | what is the difference between upgrade and dist-upgrade? |
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| 13:52.06 | takatumi | KomiaPoika: man apt-get |
| 13:52.07 | bbrazil | KomiaPoika: dist-upgrade can uninstall packages |
| 13:52.24 | thma | Question: Simply Mepis is able to run an Nvidia CK8S NIC, I am trying to install Debian but there isnt a module for that NIC on the disk. If i modprobe the NIC in SM can I copy the *.o files to Debian and set it up to use the *.o file of is it more complicated than that? |
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| 13:53.41 | zaka | hello, how can i format a sata hd from knoppix, using reiserfs format? plz,. any command? |
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| 13:54.05 | valdyn | zaka: /join #knoppix |
| 13:54.11 | sdakota | bbrazil: Thanks a lot for your help! |
| 13:54.14 | thma | zaka : yes you can dont remember how |
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| 13:54.31 | bbrazil | sdakota: no problem |
| 13:54.51 | thma | sdakota: i am from near Sioux Falls |
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| 13:55.01 | mynullvoid | hello guys |
| 13:55.08 | thma | hello |
| 13:55.42 | mynullvoid | anyone know when sasl2-bin coming out for sid? |
| 13:55.44 | zaka | hmmmm, i need to make a debian cd, coz debian sagre, sid, and 64amb cant detect my hd sata, i need to copy the knoppix kernel, and make the debian cd, will work? |
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| 13:56.01 | sdakota | thma: I am from the netherlands ;) |
| 13:56.06 | tarzeau | mynullvoid: the maintainer of it? |
| 13:56.21 | goron | I can start the X server as user, but Gnome does not get executed. Although I have exec gnome-session in my .xinitrc |
| 13:56.26 | tarzeau | mynullvoid: a specific version? i have it in my apt-cache search |
| 13:56.29 | mynullvoid | zaka: I also use sata and debian woody able to detect it |
| 13:56.41 | mynullvoid | tarzeau: deps issue |
| 13:56.42 | valdyn | !d-i 2.6.12 |
| 13:56.42 | dpkg | 2.6.12, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 13:56.47 | valdyn | zaka: try ^^^ |
| 13:56.52 | tarzeau | mynullvoid: matter of time, just wait |
| 13:56.57 | valdyn | zaka: ops, wrong |
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| 13:57.18 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.12 |
| 13:57.19 | dpkg | [sarge 2.6.12] http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/09/02#d-i-2612 |
| 13:57.24 | valdyn | zaka: ^^^ |
| 13:57.28 | mynullvoid | zaka: try linux26 when installing |
| 13:57.37 | zaka | mynullvoid, i do, but nob result |
| 13:57.58 | mynullvoid | zaka: what's your tree? |
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| 13:58.05 | mynullvoid | woody or sarge? |
| 13:58.30 | mynullvoid | mine automagicly work ? |
| 13:58.32 | mynullvoid | heh |
| 13:58.57 | zaka | tree? what u mean? i m having a processor centrino mobil with 2 hd sata |
| 13:59.09 | Akbar | what version of debian |
| 13:59.33 | zaka | mynullvoid, sarge |
| 13:59.44 | Ethics | ich7...id guess....kernel support needed |
| 13:59.48 | zaka | i try with sid , and no result |
| 14:00.12 | Ethics | !find libdirectfb-0.9-20 |
| 14:00.16 | mynullvoid | zaka: at the installation prompt enter : linux26 |
| 14:00.59 | valdyn | zaka: try what dpkg said, if that does not work, /msg dpkg custom d-i |
| 14:01.22 | goron | AUDIT: Sun Dec 4 14:59:45 2005: 5903 X: client 1 rejected from local host |
| 14:01.25 | zaka | yes i do, & i v select the usb-store and all the controles, okis i will try costum d-i :) |
| 14:01.42 | goron | This is the error message I get when I do startx -- :2 as non-root |
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| 14:02.03 | mynullvoid | zaka: at the prompt enter: linux26 |
| 14:02.10 | mynullvoid | zaka: it will work |
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| 14:02.43 | Ethics | goron startx is generic...try one for your WM .....what wm you use? |
| 14:02.58 | goron | Ethics: As DE I use gnome-session |
| 14:03.03 | valdyn | goron: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
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| 14:04.32 | Ethics | grrr..broken dependencies suck 8( |
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| 14:04.57 | goron | valdyn: Ok, I didn that, but it has no effect. |
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| 14:05.19 | Ethics | !find libdirectfb-0.9-20 |
| 14:05.27 | goron | This is basically the same problem http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/01/msg00336.html |
| 14:05.27 | valdyn | goron: are you trying to run 2 gnome sessions as the same user on the same system? |
| 14:05.30 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdirectfb-0.9-20' returned no results. |
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| 14:05.40 | goron | valdyn: no, one as root, and one as user. |
| 14:06.01 | shaw` | hi, I know this is in the documentation, but my English is bad, so.. where do I put a script that I want to execute when the computers boots up, with my iptables rules? It should be the last thing to be executed during boot time. |
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| 14:07.05 | Ethics | shaw /etc/rc.2 call it S99scriptname.sh or run somethiing like firestarter or shorewall |
| 14:07.30 | KomiaPoika | is it possible to install xorg with apt? |
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| 14:07.42 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: yes |
| 14:07.47 | shaw` | Ethics, thanks a lot :) |
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| 14:08.08 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, yes apt-get install xserver-xorg from memory |
| 14:08.10 | lobomufas | mmm, i'm the only one with brocken packages in kde after upgrading in sid? :( |
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| 14:08.17 | _Deimos_ | is there a lib to filter packets in C, in userland ? |
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| 14:08.27 | Guerin | shaw`: put it in /etc/network/interfaces as an 'up' rule |
| 14:08.29 | Ethics | lobomufas, pretty normal to get it... |
| 14:08.37 | Guerin | shaw`: and put your command to turn it off as a 'down' rule |
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| 14:09.11 | KomiaPoika | Ethics: thanks |
| 14:09.12 | Ethics | lobomufas, Sid is normall broken to some extent....kde3.4 stuff may be missing..they ae doing al sorts of stuff to it from what ive seen in etch passdowns |
| 14:09.15 | lobomufas | Ethics yeah, I know, i'm suffering this kind of things since kde 3.0 hehe |
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| 14:10.02 | Ethics | anyone run mplayer on etch atm? |
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| 14:10.30 | Guerin | !anyone use |
| 14:10.30 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
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| 14:10.40 | lobomufas | hehe |
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| 14:11.08 | jsz_ | how do I add a user with root privlages? |
| 14:11.09 | Ethics | guerin...got a broken dependency 8(...just cuirous if theres a way around it anyone knows |
| 14:11.21 | Guerin | Ethics: there's a way around everything |
| 14:11.26 | Guerin | Ethics: just use xine itmt |
| 14:11.28 | Guerin | or vlc |
| 14:11.31 | tarzeau | jsz_: you don't really want to do that |
| 14:11.31 | Talnakh | hi all. guys how can i realize the following under debian. i have a number of services which are using their own webservers running on various ports. i would like to access them all on port 80 or 443 only using different paths. e.g. webmail running on 8080 accessible through http://sarge/webmail ???? |
| 14:11.32 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai all. guys how can i realize the following under debian. i have a number of services which are using their own webservers running on various ports. i would like to access them all on port 80 or 443 only using different paths. e.g. webmail running on 8080 accessible through http://sarge/webmail! |
| 14:11.39 | tarzeau | jsz_: but first add the user, then set the user id to 0? |
| 14:11.45 | lobomufas | jsz_ I think it's better to use sudo instead doing that |
| 14:11.47 | jsz_ | how do I do that? |
| 14:11.48 | tarzeau | jsz_: better if you use sudo instead |
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| 14:11.55 | jsz_ | nah |
| 14:11.55 | tarzeau | jsz_: man 5 passwd |
| 14:11.58 | Luka666 | ellow |
| 14:12.01 | tarzeau | jsz_: yes, not nah |
| 14:12.02 | jsz_ | I want to do it like this |
| 14:12.02 | Guerin | hi dudes. |
| 14:12.07 | tarzeau | jsz_: that's wrong, really |
| 14:12.08 | Luka666 | in what package can i find the "ip" command? |
| 14:12.10 | Ethics | Guerin, yeah pondering if i should compile it myself hehe....just a little hatefull of mplayer compiles...too many features hehe |
| 14:12.14 | lobomufas | wow |
| 14:12.15 | Guerin | dpkg: why did you reply to him? |
| 14:12.16 | dpkg | Because I felt like it! |
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| 14:12.28 | Guerin | Ethics: it's fairly trivial to build |
| 14:12.28 | Bogaurd | i'm having trouble with my syslog - output from iptables can be seen by 'dmesg', but no matter WHAT i do, syslog will not log it - even when i configure it to have a log of '*.*'!!! Anyone have any ideas as to why this might be? |
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| 14:12.47 | Talnakh | guerin, dpkg likes me :-) |
| 14:12.56 | Guerin | Talnakh: apparently so. |
| 14:13.12 | Ethics | guerin really ok a looking i will go |
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| 14:13.18 | Luka666 | in what package can i find the "ip" command? |
| 14:13.34 | tarzeau | Luka666: packages.debian.org |
| 14:13.35 | lobomufas | Luka666 iproute |
| 14:13.38 | Talnakh | ok, lets make a joke. |
| 14:13.40 | Luka666 | thx |
| 14:13.43 | Guerin | Ethics: apt-get build-dep mplayer-386; then just run debian/rules binary |
| 14:13.51 | Talnakh | dpkg, do you like windows? |
| 14:13.54 | Guerin | Talnakh: you want to configure virtualhosts |
| 14:14.00 | goron | valdyn: "Couldn't load XKB keymap, falling back to pre-XKB keymap" |
| 14:14.13 | goron | Warning: font renderer for ".pcf" already registered at priority 0 |
| 14:14.27 | Luka666 | bye |
| 14:14.30 | Talnakh | guerin, no. i have 4 webservers which are not apache and they do different tasks. |
| 14:14.48 | Guerin | !tahwtda |
| 14:14.48 | dpkg | There's a Hard Way To Do Anything |
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| 14:15.42 | Talnakh | dpkg, say cheese |
| 14:15.42 | dpkg | cheese |
| 14:15.47 | Guerin | Talnakh: you might get away with using CNAMEs |
| 14:16.13 | Guerin | or using a gateway webserver with http redirecting, though that's an ugly hack |
| 14:16.20 | goron | http://pastebin.com/448260 |
| 14:16.42 | Talnakh | guerin, i think proxy is the best solution in this case really. |
| 14:17.23 | Kluster_v2 | Talnakh, I just like when dpkg defines windows... |
| 14:17.29 | Kluster_v2 | dpkg, windows? |
| 14:17.29 | dpkg | PCs are like air conditioners, if you open Windows(R) they don't work. |
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| 14:18.24 | Talnakh | i wonder, how dpkg defines sex ? |
| 14:18.30 | Shadowcat | !sex |
| 14:18.30 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 14:18.39 | KomiaPoika | should i load the dbe in xorg? |
| 14:18.40 | Guerin | bah |
| 14:18.52 | blondie | lol |
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| 14:19.01 | Talnakh | shadowcat, eehaaaa. |
| 14:19.10 | Tortel | dpkg knows all |
| 14:19.10 | dpkg | Bob knows what he's talking about! Listen to Bob! |
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| 14:19.52 | Talnakh | !female |
| 14:19.57 | sdakota | heya again ^^ |
| 14:20.04 | Kluster_v2 | best part was 2-3 days ago when a guy thanked him saying "dpkg tanks".. but they changed the reply now |
| 14:20.16 | sdakota | is there someone who is running a DNS server and wants to help me by being a slave server? ... |
| 14:20.18 | Tortel | dpkg tanks |
| 14:20.18 | dpkg | Perhaps you mean thanks? If so, you're welcome. |
| 14:20.23 | Tortel | :( |
| 14:20.25 | Eulex | !gender |
| 14:20.25 | dpkg | I'm gay |
| 14:20.26 | Kluster_v2 | the guy thought he was "real" :) |
| 14:20.28 | sdakota | LOL |
| 14:20.37 | Tortel | !gender |
| 14:20.37 | dpkg | I'm not sure |
| 14:20.45 | sdakota | "gay" isn't a gender, right ^^ |
| 14:20.47 | Tortel | stupid changing things |
| 14:20.55 | Tortel | !woot |
| 14:20.55 | dpkg | woot is probably an expression of joy. Also spelled w00t. |
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| 14:20.59 | Talnakh | ask dpkg whatis gay? |
| 14:21.00 | Eulex | Kluster_v2, what was the old reply? |
| 14:21.03 | sdakota | !w00t |
| 14:21.03 | dpkg | w00t!!! |
| 14:21.06 | sdakota | !w007 |
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| 14:21.10 | Tortel | !1337 |
| 14:21.11 | dpkg | [1337] lamer talk for cool,, or shitkitty talk, or http://www.googlism.com/where_is/1/1337/ |
| 14:21.13 | ^Willie^ | morning |
| 14:21.16 | sussudio | !stupid bot tricks |
| 14:21.16 | dpkg | Watching someone play with the bots gets old pretty fast. If you really *must* do it, don't do it here. Use /msg. /join #debian-bots and play there |
| 14:21.17 | KomiaPoika | !gender |
| 14:21.17 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
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| 14:21.21 | KomiaPoika | !gender |
| 14:21.22 | Kluster_v2 | something like "the panzers are coming to get your jewish ass" |
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| 14:21.30 | ^Willie^ | who have mipsel expirience ? |
| 14:21.36 | sdakota | dpkg, w007 is leetspeek (13375p33k) for "woot", also spelled as w00t |
| 14:21.37 | dpkg | sdakota: okay |
| 14:21.37 | Eulex | Kluster_v2, hehe |
| 14:21.40 | sdakota | !w007 |
| 14:21.40 | dpkg | w007 is probably leetspeek (13375p33k) for "woot", also spelled as w00t |
| 14:21.46 | Eulex | !botabuse |
| 14:21.46 | dpkg | lay off me you buggerererers!!11! |
| 14:22.05 | Tortel | dpkg, tanks |
| 14:22.05 | dpkg | tanks is probably Something thats gunna blow your skinny ass away! |
| 14:22.11 | sdakota | LOL |
| 14:22.12 | Tortel | :D |
| 14:22.16 | Talnakh | LOL |
| 14:22.22 | sdakota | =D |
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| 14:22.27 | ^Willie^ | ? |
| 14:22.28 | sussudio | !sing sunday |
| 14:22.28 | dpkg | Everyday is like sunday... Everyday the tards come to play... |
| 14:22.31 | sdakota | !dns |
| 14:22.35 | Eulex | sussudio, right. |
| 14:22.35 | sdakota | hm |
| 14:22.36 | Talnakh | dpks, iraqi tanks |
| 14:22.45 | sdakota | anyone here wants to be dazjorz.com's second slave server? |
| 14:22.45 | Kluster_v2 | now we'll have to kick dpkg for spamming |
| 14:23.02 | sdakota | !kick dpkg |
| 14:23.04 | Tortel | I am no slave! |
| 14:23.09 | sdakota | !kick itself |
| 14:23.09 | sussudio | sdakota: stop it. now. |
| 14:23.17 | sdakota | sussudio, stop what? |
| 14:23.27 | blondie | botrape |
| 14:23.29 | Talnakh | dpkg, submarine |
| 14:23.50 | ^Willie^ | someone here who have an mips4 rm5231 in 64bit mode ??? |
| 14:24.14 | Tortel | !botrape |
| 14:24.14 | dpkg | STOP!!! please... no more... |
| 14:24.20 | Tortel | See??!? |
| 14:24.20 | sdakota | is anyone here running a dns server and wants to be dazjorz.com's second slave server?... |
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| 14:24.28 | tkinias | #debian |
| 14:24.33 | sdakota | that's us |
| 14:24.33 | KomiaPoika | i do apt-get install kde but there is tons of unmet dependencies that apt-get won't install. |
| 14:24.40 | jsz_ | Who here makes SID music? |
| 14:24.41 | tkinias | hey :) |
| 14:24.44 | goron | I am getting sick of this. How can i get a normal user use the X-server and have e.g. gnome-session? |
| 14:24.46 | jsz_ | on C64 |
| 14:24.46 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, testing? |
| 14:24.55 | positron| | what was the game emulator for linux? so that i can play windows games from linux |
| 14:25.15 | Kluster_v2 | positron|, wine, cedega ? |
| 14:25.16 | Talnakh | cedega, wine |
| 14:25.19 | Tortel | wine! |
| 14:25.21 | tkinias | I've not been keeping up with kernel issues, so I was wondering if anyone can fill me in on where the 2.6.x sources went in testing/unstable |
| 14:25.22 | Tortel | !wine |
| 14:25.22 | dpkg | hmm... wine is at http://www.winehq.com/ or #winehq. It stands for Wine Is Not an Emulator or alternative win32 API. very buggy, will be a major part of the death of M$. The sources.list lines are: deb http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main, deb-src http://people.debian.org/~andreas/debian wine main. apt-get install shiraz, or a tasty alcoholic beverage. |
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| 14:25.37 | dvs | tkinias: linux-source-* |
| 14:25.41 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, try kde-base |
| 14:25.45 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: testing what? |
| 14:25.48 | positron| | i think cedega is better for gaming? |
| 14:26.02 | Tortel | !cedage |
| 14:26.03 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, testing as in etch? |
| 14:26.04 | tkinias | dvs: all the 2.6 sources are gone except 2.6.8 in stable |
| 14:26.08 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, are you running etch? testing release? |
| 14:26.09 | positron| | !cedega |
| 14:26.10 | dpkg | somebody said cedega was the new name for Transgaming's WineX - a proprietary fork of WINE designed to play Windows games. Limited CVS available at http://transgaming.org/cvs/ but missing key components such as copy protection or installshield functionality, or http://timedoctor.org/boycott_winex.php, or and the packaging saga summarised at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200205/msg02823.html |
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| 14:26.21 | dvs | tkinias: no, not true |
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| 14:26.40 | dvs | !info linux-source-2.6.12 etch |
| 14:26.46 | KomiaPoika | E: Couldn't find package kde-base |
| 14:26.47 | dpkg | linux-source-2.6.12: (Linux kernel source for version 2.6.12 with Debian patches), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10 (etch), Packaged size: 35671 kB, Installed size: 35760 kB |
| 14:26.54 | KomiaPoika | Ethics: sarge |
| 14:27.08 | Eulex | jsz_, you belong on www.scenemusic.net |
| 14:27.11 | tkinias | dvs: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=kernel-source-2.6&searchon=names&subword=1&version=all&release=all |
| 14:27.14 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, xorg? |
| 14:27.24 | tarzeau | jsz_: i do |
| 14:27.26 | dvs | tkinias: look what dpkg said above |
| 14:27.30 | tarzeau | jsz_: and probable those in #demoscene |
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| 14:27.42 | tarzeau | jsz_: sidplay2 is broken, xsidplay seems to play it right, tried opencubicplayer yet? |
| 14:27.44 | positron| | can i play cracked games with cedega? |
| 14:27.48 | KomiaPoika | Ethics: yes xorg is installed |
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| 14:27.53 | tarzeau | jsz_: what about modules? know schism? |
| 14:27.59 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, sarge should be fine....check /etc/apt/sources and see what release its pointing to |
| 14:28.05 | tkinias | dvs: I see, and it really is there -- wonder why packages.debian.org says its not |
| 14:28.11 | tkinias | *it's |
| 14:28.14 | dvs | tkinias: you said "kernel-source" |
| 14:28.16 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, xorg isnt in sarge btw so your on etch |
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| 14:28.39 | goron | Ethics: Do you have any idea of how I can get regular users to login? |
| 14:28.41 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, well, that package is nowhere in debian. apt-get kde-core or kde instead. |
| 14:28.42 | KomiaPoika | deb http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ testing main |
| 14:28.42 | KomiaPoika | deb-src http://ftp.debian.skynet.be/ftp/debian/ testing main |
| 14:28.42 | KomiaPoika | deb http://security.debian.org/ testing/updates main |
| 14:28.49 | dvs | KomiaPoika: etch |
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| 14:28.54 | tkinias | oh, crap -- it's _linux_ source now... thanks! when did the name change? |
| 14:29.03 | KomiaPoika | i installed xorg manually |
| 14:29.06 | azeem | tkinias: some months ago |
| 14:29.09 | dvs | tkinias: couple of months ago |
| 14:29.15 | tarzeau | tkinias: quite some time ago |
| 14:29.20 | Ethics | goron, i run GDM so i dont know much about startx etc .... |
| 14:29.26 | dvs | eons ago ;-) |
| 14:29.29 | tkinias | wow... yeah, I've not been keeping up *blush* |
| 14:29.29 | KomiaPoika | i installed with sarge net cd and apt-get upgraded |
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| 14:29.39 | tkinias | thanks, amigos |
| 14:29.44 | goron | Ethics: It's totally unlrelated to that. |
| 14:29.48 | goron | unre |
| 14:30.10 | KomiaPoika | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.10 | KomiaPoika | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.10 | KomiaPoika | E: Broken packages |
| 14:30.11 | Ethics | goron...well i just log in as me and it works... |
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| 14:30.47 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, that's normal in etch right now. |
| 14:31.08 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, install the packages that are there instead, and skip kde-amusements and kdeaddons |
| 14:31.09 | Ethics | KomiaPoika, kde 3.4 is in etch so it.will bork...i think if you poing it at sarge updae installkde then change it back to testing and updat itll do what you need |
| 14:31.14 | goron | Ethics: I think I already understand the problem. Still it is garbage software. |
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| 14:31.43 | amphi | goron: so why are you using it? |
| 14:32.10 | Ethics | what error do you get? |
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| 14:32.28 | Ethics | goron any useful error message? |
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| 14:32.44 | MaikeLoOO | hi |
| 14:32.51 | MaikeLoOO | how i can install pcmciautils?? |
| 14:33.07 | goron | amphi: Once it works, it fits my purposes better. |
| 14:33.12 | Ethics | MaikeLoOO, apt-get .... |
| 14:33.21 | goron | Ethics: The problem is that gnome can't handle newer config files. |
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| 14:33.29 | MaikeLoOO | not exists |
| 14:33.29 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: how do i install all possible kde packages then? |
| 14:33.31 | MaikeLoOO | the packet |
| 14:33.45 | Ethics | goron...umm sorry...newer than what? |
| 14:33.49 | goron | Ethics: It should just say "Hey, guy, I don't understand this. We are now using the defaults". |
| 14:33.59 | goron | Ethics: Newer than the sarge version. |
| 14:34.09 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, apt-cache show kde, look at the dependencies, and pick those that you can/want install |
| 14:34.18 | Ethics | goron...you running sarge? |
| 14:34.23 | goron | Ethics: yes |
| 14:34.44 | goron | Ethics: But to me Unstable looks more Stable. |
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| 14:35.00 | goron | Ethics: at least the Unstable from 2 years ago. |
| 14:35.03 | Ethics | goron so why not use a sarge config....etch has 2.10 if you need newer but its not stable......it seems fine tho |
| 14:35.05 | vinay | i tell growisofs to use -speed=8 .. but it still wont go higher than 1.5x .. why? |
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| 14:35.18 | MaikeLoOO | somebody runs pcmcia on debian?? |
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| 14:35.27 | Tortel | !pcmia |
| 14:35.32 | dvs | MaikeLoOO: I bet a lot of people do |
| 14:35.34 | Tortel | i cant spell |
| 14:35.40 | dvs | !pccard |
| 14:35.41 | Tortel | !pcmcia |
| 14:35.41 | dpkg | hmm... pcmcia is (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) Aside from winning the award for being the longest and most-annoying-to-pronounce technology acronym, PCMCIA is a credit card-sized interface card standard. PCMCIA cards are most commonly found in notebook computers. You'll usually find two slots on newer models. Two small slots can hold two Type I or II cards or one Type III card. Type III cards are usually mini hard drives. ... |
| 14:35.48 | MaikeLoOO | when start pcmcia, tellme that i need pcmciautils |
| 14:35.49 | Ethics | goron pin etc and update to newer gnome if you need it... |
| 14:35.52 | goron | Ethics: Maybe because I have it completely configured for gnome 2.12, and copied my complete homedir to the new installation. |
| 14:35.59 | MaikeLoOO | but apt-get install pcmciautils not exists |
| 14:36.11 | goron | Ethics: I will just move my configuration. And then see whether it works. |
| 14:37.14 | Ethics | goron.well i wouldnt expect it to understand ...xfree86 in sarge...xorg in 2.12 id expect.. |
| 14:38.17 | goron | Ethics: I now moved everything, and twm works, just as xterm does (when put in .xinitrc), but when I run gnome-session it just sits there and does nothing. |
| 14:39.04 | MaikeLoOO | but apt-get install pcmciautils not exists |
| 14:39.08 | MaikeLoOO | somebody can help me? |
| 14:39.39 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, of course installing non-existant packages does not work |
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| 14:40.00 | Ethics | goron...cute not sure how that would happen...im no guru on gnome tho...nor on anytrhing really |
| 14:40.09 | MaikeLoOO | i don't nderstand you |
| 14:40.36 | dvs | MaikeLoOO: he said pcmciautils does not exist as a package |
| 14:40.49 | dvs | name |
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| 14:41.05 | Ethics | MaikeLoOO, wrong name for file apt-cache search pcmcia itll have a - in or something |
| 14:41.18 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, what kernel? |
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| 14:41.39 | dvs | Hello > dev1 |
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| 14:42.07 | bruc1 | hi |
| 14:42.09 | dev1 | hi all. in what way can I easy install/config/upgrade debian on 35 same pc's |
| 14:42.34 | dvs | !get selections |
| 14:42.36 | Eulex | !fai |
| 14:42.36 | dpkg | fai is probably Fully Automatic Installation for debian at http://www.informatik.uni-koeln.de/fai/ or at #fai |
| 14:42.38 | pureone | clusterssh for upgrades, donno about install |
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| 14:43.21 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, please tell us what uname -r outputs |
| 14:43.36 | bruc1 | does anybody can expplaim m why seens my last update xmms is unstable? |
| 14:43.37 | Bogaurd | my dhcpd (sarge) wont let me use log-facility in the config file. |
| 14:43.39 | MaikeLoOO | 2.6.14.3 |
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| 14:43.54 | bruc1 | is it du to a plugin? |
| 14:43.58 | dev1 | pureone: what is donno? |
| 14:44.06 | Akbar | lol |
| 14:44.23 | Akbar | donno = don't know |
| 14:44.28 | pureone | yeah |
| 14:44.33 | dev1 | :) |
| 14:44.39 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, ok. what exactly are you trying to run? |
| 14:44.42 | pureone | dev1 what is google? |
| 14:44.43 | dbaio | any know where download mplayer ? beacause I can't download from ftp://ftp.nerim.net |
| 14:44.46 | MaikeLoOO | i need to run my pcmcia |
| 14:44.53 | Akbar | !marillat |
| 14:44.53 | dpkg | it has been said that marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 14:44.53 | dvs | !marillat |
| 14:44.56 | dvs | damn |
| 14:44.57 | dev1 | Akbar: I'm not from english-speaking country |
| 14:44.57 | MaikeLoOO | but when i start system, fails |
| 14:45.03 | MaikeLoOO | sayme that i need to use pcmciautils |
| 14:45.04 | Akbar | dev1 me neither :) |
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| 14:45.12 | dbaio | :) |
| 14:45.14 | Akbar | I'm dutch |
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| 14:45.20 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, have you got pcmcia-cs installed? |
| 14:45.21 | dvs | !info pcmciautils |
| 14:45.40 | mati | hello, someone has a 3dfx voodoo with direct render working ? |
| 14:45.41 | MaikeLoOO | yes |
| 14:45.43 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, also, did you compile in support for pcmcia when you compiled that kernel? |
| 14:45.48 | MaikeLoOO | yes |
| 14:45.56 | MaikeLoOO | the modules are load |
| 14:45.56 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, btw, why did you compile a kernel yourself? |
| 14:46.05 | MaikeLoOO | pcmcia_core, yenta_socket... |
| 14:46.09 | dev1 | 64x arch supported by debian? |
| 14:46.18 | MaikeLoOO | becouse i need the latest version |
| 14:46.19 | dvs | dev1: Not officially |
| 14:46.30 | MaikeLoOO | zphyx not exists this package |
| 14:46.34 | MaikeLoOO | zohyx not exists this package |
| 14:46.39 | dev1 | dvs: in future? |
| 14:46.40 | MaikeLoOO | zophyx not exists this package |
| 14:46.41 | MaikeLoOO | sorry |
| 14:46.44 | dvs | dev1: yes |
| 14:46.52 | dvs | in etch |
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| 14:46.54 | Akbar | dvs there is debian64 right? |
| 14:46.57 | SimonRaven | use <tab> completion ;) |
| 14:46.58 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, why? if you want 2.6.14 you can get it from unstable |
| 14:47.09 | MaikeLoOO | not |
| 14:47.13 | dvs | Akbar: Yes, but it isn't official (no formal support) |
| 14:47.15 | MaikeLoOO | i donwnload source from kernel.org |
| 14:47.18 | MaikeLoOO | and compile |
| 14:47.21 | Akbar | owh okay |
| 14:47.27 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, why do you need the latest? |
| 14:47.32 | MaikeLoOO | all works perfectly , but pcmca not |
| 14:47.40 | dev1 | What about System Imager? |
| 14:47.45 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex, i use Touchpanel that only works with the latests |
| 14:47.46 | MaikeLoOO | etc |
| 14:48.01 | valdyn | Akbar: it is fine practically, just not labeled official |
| 14:48.02 | Akbar | automount patch is cool :) |
| 14:48.06 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, your problem is very likely caused by yourself, because you selected the wrong settings when configuring it. |
| 14:48.15 | KomiaPoika | xorg fails on start due to wrong fonts path, how do i fix this? |
| 14:48.19 | Akbar | I mean supermount |
| 14:48.25 | mati | has someone seen this before: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/tdfx_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_get_dispatch? |
| 14:48.25 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex, the pcmcia config it's equal that old kernel |
| 14:48.54 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, and why didn't you get the binary 2.6.14 from unstable or at least get the 2.6.14 source from unstable? |
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| 14:48.56 | MaikeLoOO | http://kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html |
| 14:49.04 | nm | !find xffstab |
| 14:49.08 | Akbar | man I need to get a geforce.. radeon sucks.. |
| 14:49.12 | MaikeLoOO | becouses i patch the kernel |
| 14:49.13 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'xffstab' (1): (/usr/bin/{xffstab|xffstab4}) in x11/xffm4. |
| 14:49.18 | MaikeLoOO | i need the source |
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| 14:49.26 | MaikeLoOO | and it's equal to download from kernel.org |
| 14:49.35 | MaikeLoOO | all works but pcmcia not |
| 14:49.43 | goron | KomiaPoika: remove the path from its configuration file. |
| 14:49.44 | MaikeLoOO | please see it |
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| 14:49.48 | valdyn | MaikeLoOO: why do you think you need the 'latest' at all? |
| 14:49.57 | MaikeLoOO | ... |
| 14:49.59 | KomiaPoika | goron: i was thinking of actually installing fonts instead? |
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| 14:50.10 | MaikeLoOO | please any have any idea? |
| 14:50.26 | KomiaPoika | goron: i don't seem to have any fonts installed |
| 14:50.32 | goron | KomiaPoika: If you have no fonts, then that would be a nice idea indeed. |
| 14:50.45 | KomiaPoika | goron: so, how do i install xorg's fonts |
| 14:50.46 | gnd | I'm upgrading my kernel and I'd like to know how to copy the old kernel config to the new kernel source I just downloaded? |
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| 14:50.58 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, the source in debian is not equal to the kernel.org source. btw, what kernel version was the old kernel config from? |
| 14:51.02 | edrin | hi |
| 14:51.11 | dvs | gnd: cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) . |
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| 14:51.26 | valdyn | gnd: run 'make oldconfig', if that doesnt work, cp /boot/config-$(uname -r) /path/to/kernel/.config |
| 14:51.27 | goron | KomiaPoika: I have no clue. |
| 14:51.37 | gnd | ok thanks |
| 14:51.37 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex |
| 14:51.52 | edrin | i enabled nvidiafb with modconf. whaever i am not able to disable it anymore in modconf, it says it is in use; how can i disable it? |
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| 14:52.01 | MaikeLoOO | how i can download it, for recompile.. |
| 14:52.39 | goron | KomiaPoika: But I assume that if you installed it via the Debian way, it would work right away. |
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| 14:53.04 | KomiaPoika | goron: i installed xorg with apt-get, but there aren't any fonts |
| 14:53.15 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, get it from http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/linux-source-2.6.14 |
| 14:53.19 | GlenneMannen | how do I add a rc file to startup and also how do I get ls to show color? |
| 14:53.25 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex i use sarge |
| 14:53.27 | KomiaPoika | in the dirs that Xorg config file has |
| 14:53.48 | gnd | valdyn: but make oldconfig won't make a .deb.kernel package |
| 14:53.59 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, and base your .config on the .config in this package: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/base/linux-image-2.6.14-2-686 |
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| 14:54.01 | valdyn | KomiaPoika: apt-get install xfonts-base xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpkg xfonts-100dpi-transcoded xfonts-75dpig-transcoded |
| 14:54.18 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, does that hinder you from just downloading the package and doing dpkg -i on it? |
| 14:54.25 | valdyn | gnd: you did not ask for that, all it does is configure your current kernel source tree with that config file |
| 14:54.34 | sifi | Is there some way to write over current existing file with a file being downloaded with wget.I have the file: foo and run wget http://whatever/foo wget will save the file as foo.1 as it allready exist |
| 14:54.56 | gnd | valdyn: oh, so after that I just do the normal fakeroot make-kpkg ... ? |
| 14:54.58 | goron | sifi: there is IRRC. Read the manpage. |
| 14:55.01 | valdyn | gnd: yep |
| 14:55.14 | MaikeLoOO | I don't understand you Eulex |
| 14:55.32 | KomiaPoika | valdyn: i just figured the xfonts-base by myself, but will also install those, thanks. |
| 14:55.37 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, man dpkg and /-i |
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| 14:55.48 | MaikeLoOO | yes, but url don't work |
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| 14:56.23 | cesspit | hello. what package contain man pages for C-functions? |
| 14:56.26 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, the urls I gave you do work |
| 14:56.37 | KomiaPoika | do they make money? |
| 14:56.38 | MaikeLoOO | but i put dpkg -i url |
| 14:56.39 | bbrazil | cesspit: manpages-dev iirc |
| 14:56.43 | MaikeLoOO | don't work |
| 14:56.54 | cesspit | bbrazil: thx a lot |
| 14:57.02 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, no, it doesn't. because dpkg operates on filenames, not urls. |
| 14:57.05 | valdyn | MaikeLoOO: why do you assume that dpkg -i can take URLs as option? |
| 14:57.26 | edrin | i enabled nvidiafb with modconf. whaever i am not able to disable it anymore in modconf, it says it is in use; how can i disable it? |
| 14:57.30 | MaikeLoOO | BSD uses similar |
| 14:57.36 | gb | GlenneMannen: try man bash & also look at .profile .bashlogin .bashrc |
| 14:57.41 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, download the package with your browser, *then* dpkg -i it |
| 14:57.44 | valdyn | edrin: lsmod | grep nvidiafb |
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| 14:58.07 | MaikeLoOO | but becouse i need the image? |
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| 14:58.29 | TTT | hi, how do I get USB keyboard working in Lilo? |
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| 14:58.45 | valdyn | TTT: fix your bios, that has nothing to do with linux or debian |
| 14:58.52 | GlenneMannen | gb: to install rc. files at startup then? |
| 14:58.54 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, the image contains a .config which you *will* want to base your .config on |
| 14:59.11 | edrin | valdyn: and then? |
| 14:59.12 | TTT | valdyn, thanx, i thought so too |
| 14:59.13 | KomiaPoika | i have X!! |
| 14:59.18 | xk | is there a way for pcmcia to load up modules (network) automatically and ifup the interface? |
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| 14:59.23 | valdyn | edrin: paste the output - not here |
| 14:59.27 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex, i downloading it |
| 14:59.27 | xk | for 2.6.x kernel, 2.4.x is no problem |
| 14:59.31 | MaikeLoOO | when i get |
| 14:59.38 | MaikeLoOO | dpkg -i *deb |
| 14:59.50 | Eulex | lol |
| 14:59.52 | MaikeLoOO | later? |
| 15:00.03 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, hehe, yep |
| 15:00.08 | KomiaPoika | how do i make debian start kdm on boot? |
| 15:00.31 | valdyn | KomiaPoika: apt-get install kdm, if its already installed dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 15:00.37 | KomiaPoika | k |
| 15:00.38 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex, but i want to compile kernel |
| 15:00.39 | KomiaPoika | thanks |
| 15:00.47 | MaikeLoOO | make bzImage modules modules_install |
| 15:00.49 | MaikeLoOO | how i need |
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| 15:01.06 | edrin | valdyn: come to #flood |
| 15:01.07 | edrin | pls |
| 15:01.21 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, you can either download the debian kernel source, or use the vanilla kernel source you've alrdaey got |
| 15:01.34 | valdyn | edrin: i am |
| 15:01.40 | MaikeLoOO | but, i've the kernel source... |
| 15:01.44 | MaikeLoOO | i compile it |
| 15:01.59 | valdyn | !custom kernel |
| 15:01.59 | dpkg | read http://www.openbsd.org/faq/faq5.html#Why and read "Debian" when it has "OpenBSD", or see <debian kernel image> |
| 15:02.00 | edrin | valdyn: ok .. |
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| 15:02.12 | KomiaPoika | how comes i am running etch from a sarge net install cd? |
| 15:02.17 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, you need the .config from the binary. |
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| 15:02.26 | MaikeLoOO | .. |
| 15:02.31 | MaikeLoOO | i've my own config |
| 15:02.40 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, because you downloaded the netinst while sarge was testing |
| 15:02.48 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, but it obviously doesn't work |
| 15:02.53 | Deimos_ | with wich gcc's options can i compile a module with 2.6.x kernel ? i tried "gcc -c module.c -Wall -O2 -I /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build/include/ -DMODULE -D__KERNEL_" but it doesn't work |
| 15:02.55 | MaikeLoOO | ... |
| 15:02.56 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex |
| 15:02.57 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: i don't understand |
| 15:02.58 | MaikeLoOO | WORKS |
| 15:03.02 | MaikeLoOO | but not works pcmcia |
| 15:03.05 | spielmann | hi. Can anybody recommend a good book collection managing program for Linux? I've tried Alexandria and it's buggy as hell. Perhaps Tellico will do the trick but there are dependency problems here :( |
| 15:03.11 | MaikeLoOO | becouse at boot tellme i need pcmciautils |
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| 15:03.13 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, well, does not work fully then |
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| 15:03.19 | MaikeLoOO | becouse pcmcia-cs are old |
| 15:03.28 | MaikeLoOO | http://kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html |
| 15:03.34 | MaikeLoOO | please, can see it |
| 15:03.34 | MaikeLoOO | ? |
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| 15:03.40 | edrin | valdyn: ok, and how do i disable the module now? |
| 15:05.59 | KomiaPoika | i installed kde and sshd won't start automatically anymore. why? |
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| 15:06.11 | hent | i use modconf for things like that edrin (might have to apt-get it first) |
| 15:06.15 | gb | spielmann: how bout vi .txt file :) |
| 15:06.22 | valdyn | edrin: its probably not possible, modprobe -r each module that depends on nvidiafb first however |
| 15:06.31 | MaikeLoOO | Eulex, read it? |
| 15:06.57 | spielmann | gb, :D well, the thing is that I'm sooo lazy. A nice feature in Alexandria was the ISBN database lookup. Vi can't do that yet =) |
| 15:07.14 | gb | eww nvidia *shudder* |
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| 15:07.41 | gb | spielmann: sure it can, just takes a tad more typing :) |
| 15:07.51 | m1ll3` | how can i exclude certain packages (in my case kernel updates) from dist-upgrades? |
| 15:08.00 | valdyn | !pin |
| 15:08.00 | dpkg | methinks pin is a small bolt, or also see pinning |
| 15:08.05 | valdyn | !pinning |
| 15:08.06 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 15:08.08 | edrin | hent, valdyn: i just activated this nvidiafb with modconf a few minutes ago. then my pc crashed and now it is loaded on boot time and i can not remove it anymore. there should be a "normal" way to disable it :/??? |
| 15:08.08 | takatumi | MaikeLoOO: isn't it just a warning? |
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| 15:08.19 | spielmann | gb, hehehe =D |
| 15:08.25 | MaikeLoOO | when i boot tellme : i need pcmciautils |
| 15:08.30 | valdyn | edrin: edit /etc/modules, reboot |
| 15:08.33 | MaikeLoOO | i've pcmcia-cs installed |
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| 15:08.49 | MaikeLoOO | but i read it ( i don't speak/read english very well) |
| 15:08.52 | hent | edrin : listen to valdyn :) |
| 15:09.01 | MaikeLoOO | and tell that i need new comandos with pcmciautils |
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| 15:09.29 | goron | I get mkdtemp: private socket dir: permission denied. I already did chown /tmp root:users, and the user who gets this error is in users. |
| 15:09.55 | gb | mm time for me caffiene too put me too sleep I think |
| 15:10.13 | KomiaPoika | i installed kde and my network card can't be seen anymore :( why |
| 15:10.13 | edrin | valdyn: i already looked into /etc/modules. there is no nvidiafb in there :/ |
| 15:10.38 | takatumi | MaikeLoOO: you shouldn't have any problems atleast until your next kernel upgrade, ignore it for now. |
| 15:11.23 | MaikeLoOO | how¿? |
| 15:11.23 | takatumi | MaikeLoOO: isn't this the message? pcmcia: This interface will soon be removed from the kernel; please expect breakage unless you upgrade to new too |
| 15:11.23 | MaikeLoOO | i don't understand you |
| 15:11.23 | edrin | sorry |
| 15:11.23 | MaikeLoOO | please wait i write it |
| 15:11.23 | edrin | valdyn: it is there thanks |
| 15:11.24 | edrin | was in teh wrong file |
| 15:11.40 | KomiaPoika | my network card on the laptop has disappeared from ifconfig after i installed kde :( |
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| 15:12.23 | tarzeau | haha |
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| 15:12.39 | goron | Anyone? |
| 15:12.55 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, see, kde is evil? |
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| 15:13.00 | takatumi | tarzeau: was thinking thank god his pacemaker didn't stop ticking after his kde install. ;) |
| 15:13.02 | KomiaPoika | Eulex, wtf? |
| 15:13.06 | MaikeLoOO | takatumi : pcmcia Detected deprecated PCMCIA ioctl usage |
| 15:13.26 | MaikeLoOO | This interface wil soon be removed from the kernel, please expect breakage unless yo upgrade to new tools |
| 15:13.26 | takatumi | MaikeLoOO: yes MaikeLoOO, ignore it for now. |
| 15:13.29 | MaikeLoOO | see http://kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/pcmcia/pcmcia.html |
| 15:13.31 | m1ll3` | how can i exclude certain packages (in my case kernel updates) from dist-upgrades? :( |
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| 15:13.49 | tarzeau | takatumi: sid is fantastic |
| 15:13.50 | MaikeLoOO | but not works my pcmcia... |
| 15:13.53 | goron | Ok, I think I have the chmod wrong. |
| 15:14.00 | valdyn | m1ll3`: /msg dpkg pinning |
| 15:14.06 | takatumi | tarzeau: me like. |
| 15:14.09 | tarzeau | takatumi: if an tool/application breaks , there's at least 20 others that you can bridge the time until the fix comes out |
| 15:14.09 | goron | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:14.36 | valdyn | goron: no |
| 15:14.38 | tarzeau | goron: it's 1777 here |
| 15:14.45 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, hehe, did you check that it didn't remove some package that is necessary for your nick to function? |
| 15:14.57 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: no, it just installed stuff |
| 15:14.59 | tarzeau | i heard really cool people have it 1337 |
| 15:14.59 | goron | valdyn: What should it be then? |
| 15:15.04 | MaikeLoOO | ummm |
| 15:15.09 | MaikeLoOO | now works? |
| 15:15.11 | goron | tarzeau: you are so funny. |
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| 15:15.13 | MaikeLoOO | o_O |
| 15:15.15 | MaikeLoOO | why??? |
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| 15:15.19 | MaikeLoOO | i only reboot and works |
| 15:15.21 | Eulex | !why |
| 15:15.21 | dpkg | Because! |
| 15:15.21 | tarzeau | takatumi: you didn't join bubnb yesterday? it was kinda laggy |
| 15:15.32 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: i did a apt-get dist-upgrade before rebooting is that bad |
| 15:15.38 | valdyn | goron: he'sright though ( 1777 ) |
| 15:15.44 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, no, but probably the reason |
| 15:15.45 | tarzeau | goron: at least my users don't get ugly error messages |
| 15:16.01 | takatumi | tarzeau: didn't know, I would've been even more laggy then. |
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| 15:16.23 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: how do i restore what dist-upgrade did |
| 15:16.31 | tarzeau | takatumi: the problem is when there's alot of dragons and alot of bubbles and even more bonuses it lags badly |
| 15:16.34 | com-0 | i'm trying to download linux kernel with apt-get install linux-source-2.6.14, but it can not find it? |
| 15:16.37 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: you can't |
| 15:16.39 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, you can't. |
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| 15:16.48 | valdyn | com-0: apt-cache search linux-source |
| 15:16.50 | tarzeau | com-0: dpkg -L package |
| 15:16.58 | Eulex | com-0, you're not running sid |
| 15:17.01 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: what did apt-get dist-upgrade do that apt-get upgrade didn't? |
| 15:17.22 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, install new things and remove deprecated things |
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| 15:17.37 | valdyn | maybe apt should have a --warn-cluebies switch on by default =/ |
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| 15:17.58 | tarzeau | valdyn: i'd rather have it be more dangerous |
| 15:18.04 | tarzeau | valdyn: to screw up more noobs |
| 15:18.13 | com-0 | valdyn: nothing?! |
| 15:18.20 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: fucking hell i can just reinstall everything? |
| 15:18.25 | valdyn | KomiaPoika: it will contrary to apt-get upgrade install/remove ( = change install status ) of any package if a depend requires that. |
| 15:18.28 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: why not? |
| 15:18.35 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: i know alot of people that did, others learnt sid |
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| 15:18.56 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, I dunno what it did. probably updated your kernel or udev, which has lead to this. |
| 15:19.04 | KomiaPoika | tarzeau: why not what? |
| 15:19.13 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: why can you not just reinstall everything? |
| 15:19.17 | KomiaPoika | why would newer kernel screw nic support |
| 15:19.22 | com-0 | debian kernel cookbook only said: apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 and continued its tutorial |
| 15:19.26 | KomiaPoika | tarzeau: cause i just spend 90 minutes installing this? |
| 15:19.27 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: what nic? what kernel before/now? |
| 15:19.35 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, anything may screw anything. |
| 15:19.37 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: 90 minutes is so nothing, if you play nethack |
| 15:19.47 | KomiaPoika | my trendnet ethernet pcmica card |
| 15:19.48 | KomiaPoika | lal |
| 15:19.48 | valdyn | com-0: there you had a precise obvious answer, what more do you need? |
| 15:19.59 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: is that some wireless nic thing? |
| 15:20.15 | KomiaPoika | no, a wireful nic |
| 15:20.16 | com-0 | i need to install the source kernel 2.6.14 |
| 15:20.21 | KomiaPoika | with same wire as desktop pcs |
| 15:20.30 | com-0 | so i can build my own costumized kernel |
| 15:20.33 | m1ll3` | hm /etc/apt/preferences can control which version of a package to be installed - but what if i don't want a package to be installed at all? |
| 15:20.35 | tarzeau | KomiaPoika: never heard of it, but nice |
| 15:20.51 | tarzeau | m1ll3`: don't install it then? |
| 15:20.58 | tarzeau | !hold |
| 15:20.58 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, hold is a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
| 15:21.00 | m1ll3` | i want to build my own kernel. so i don't want these kernel-updates |
| 15:21.15 | tarzeau | m1ll3`: install your own kernel with a higher version? |
| 15:21.16 | Eulex | KomiaPoika, chipset? |
| 15:21.26 | tarzeau | m1ll3`: using make-kpkg or source only? |
| 15:21.29 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:21.45 | Eulex | !tell mill3` about equivs |
| 15:22.19 | m1ll3` | with make-kpkg |
| 15:22.53 | KomiaPoika | Eulex: dunno |
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| 15:22.54 | Eulex | m1ll3`, kernel updates won't hurt you in any way. |
| 15:22.56 | m1ll3` | i assume if 2.6.15 gets into unstable repository it will be installed and added |
| 15:23.04 | Eulex | m1ll3`, no |
| 15:24.02 | Eulex | m1ll3`, apt will only upgrade kernel packages you already have installed. it won't automatically install new kernel releases |
| 15:24.11 | m1ll3` | when i installed debian some weeks ago it always updated the kernel to the latest version (or at least added this new generic kernel to grub) |
| 15:24.21 | blondie | no it diesn't |
| 15:24.22 | m1ll3` | ah ok |
| 15:24.24 | blondie | *didn't |
| 15:24.24 | LSorensen | Eulex: unless you have a meta package the depends on the latest kernel instaled to pull in the new kernel as a dependancy |
| 15:24.37 | m1ll3` | well ok - that explains it =) |
| 15:24.50 | Eulex | LSorense, true |
| 15:24.53 | m1ll3` | thx |
| 15:25.01 | LSorensen | like linux-image-2.6-1-k7 or such |
| 15:25.19 | m1ll3` | i'm using 2.6.14-ck6 |
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| 15:27.29 | goron | Finally it "all" works. |
| 15:30.07 | Trixsey|Laptop | Anyone here know UML (Unified Modeling Language)? |
| 15:30.08 | MaikeLoOO | what package i need for i try make-kpkg |
| 15:30.23 | Eulex | MaikeLoOO, kernel-package |
| 15:30.33 | sdakota | Back ^^ |
| 15:30.51 | raz0 | Trixsey|Laptop, Just ask your real question... |
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| 15:31.05 | SimonRaven | Trixsey|Laptop: #uml |
| 15:31.16 | Trixsey|Laptop | SimonRaven: Oh yeah, a channel with one idler... rules |
| 15:31.23 | MaikeLoOO | thanks |
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| 15:31.34 | SimonRaven | Trixsey|Laptop: *shrug*. sorry |
| 15:31.38 | Trixsey|Laptop | Anyone feel like taking a look at my class-diagram? Give me inputs? Dont know if I got it quite right |
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| 15:32.54 | ackbahr | I have probs with a printer install in ubuntu (it's a foo2zjs printer) Can anyone help me? (I'm rather new to linux) |
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| 15:32.59 | blondie | Trixsey|Laptop: nothing to do with debian |
| 15:33.05 | blondie | !ubunut |
| 15:33.09 | blondie | !buntu |
| 15:33.10 | blondie | FFS |
| 15:33.13 | blondie | !ubuntu |
| 15:33.13 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 15:33.13 | Trixsey|Laptop | blondie: well.. you could do it in debian :) |
| 15:33.13 | Trixsey|Laptop | lol |
| 15:33.59 | ackbahr | Oh, sorry, a Suse user advised me to ask in here.... I'll go to #ubuntu, then! Thank you! |
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| 15:35.45 | nathraah | I do a smbclient -L but I get these errors: http://pastebin.ca/32366 |
| 15:35.49 | nathraah | any ideas? |
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| 15:36.56 | blondie | try the name instead of the IP |
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| 15:38.00 | sdakota | bbrazil, are you still here? |
| 15:38.02 | gnd | i jusr ran make oldconfig, finished with it, ran make menuconfig and it looks like the config I just made with make oldconfig is not used? kernel 2.6.14.3 |
| 15:38.25 | sdakota | bbrazil, Searching for dazjorz.com A record at ns1.dazjorz.com. Reports no A records (NODATA type 2). 352ms. |
| 15:38.31 | Eulex | this is fun |
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| 15:38.55 | Aragorn | whatdoes.debian.mean |
| 15:39.12 | trollboy | of the nation of Debia |
| 15:39.30 | Eulex | a ./configure run on emulated amd64 (with the clock set wrong) has stuck in an infinite loop, stating: "make: Warning: File `Makefile.in' has modification time 1,3e+03 s in the future" |
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| 15:39.38 | Aragorn | debia? |
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| 15:40.16 | cr3 | I'm getting the following error message when trying to compile a window manager, which package am I missing: Can't find X11 headers and libs |
| 15:40.19 | paulswm | !tell Aragorn about debian |
| 15:40.21 | Aragorn | j |
| 15:40.34 | Eulex | well, almost infinite. will probably stop when that's not true anymore. |
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| 15:41.04 | bbrazil | sdakota: paste the zone |
| 15:41.09 | sdakota | bbrazil, sec |
| 15:41.12 | bbrazil | sdakota: *pastebin |
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| 15:43.07 | nathraah | blondie: although, there is no passwd, in mount -t smbfs, I got an error tree connect failed (Invalid network name in tree connect.) |
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| 15:43.49 | sdakota | bbrazil, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1216 |
| 15:44.17 | sdakota | bbrazil, i'd be stupid to paste so many lines (except for when i do it accidently...) |
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| 15:44.37 | bbrazil | sdakota: put the TXT records last |
| 15:44.48 | sdakota | bbrazil: ok |
| 15:44.54 | Eulex | I'm lucky that time flies in qemu... literally... it has continued now |
| 15:44.58 | sdakota | bbrazil: how do you know all this !!.. |
| 15:45.09 | bbrazil | sdakota: any entry in the left field will propogate to the next line |
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| 15:45.20 | antgel | sdakota: it's to do with Productivity(tm) |
| 15:45.21 | bbrazil | sdakota: RFC1033-1035 |
| 15:45.35 | SimonRaven | i've found putting the TXT records wherever doesn't matter. i put them at the top just for my own head |
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| 15:46.46 | sdakota | bbrazil: Whoa ! It works now! Thanks man! O.o |
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| 15:47.07 | robak | i have one question How to update my system from woody to sarge without reinstallation process |
| 15:47.25 | SimonRaven | dpkg: woody->sarge |
| 15:47.25 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 15:48.29 | robak | ok thanks |
| 15:48.38 | zcot | hi, i have a column of 2 or 3 pixels undulating on the screen.. is this The Debian Way? :p |
| 15:48.49 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 15:48.52 | SimonRaven | :P |
| 15:49.16 | ViViD | what do i use to set my network ip address and dns entries? |
| 15:49.26 | paulswm | SimonRaven: That's not fair, I only have one to two pixels :( |
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| 15:49.29 | ViViD | im running sarge w/kde |
| 15:49.31 | bbrazil | zcot: bad GPU or VDU |
| 15:49.46 | bbrazil | ViViD: man 5 interfaces |
| 15:50.00 | ViViD | isnt there a gui tool? |
| 15:50.07 | bbrazil | ViViD: gvim |
| 15:50.15 | SimonRaven | paulswm: try tweaking the refresh and sync rates :P |
| 15:50.29 | bbrazil | ViViD: base-config might give you something |
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| 15:51.01 | paulswm | SimonRaven: Heh, actually I'm OK, but that sounds like a flat panel display problem to me |
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| 15:51.17 | zcot | i just set the power saving features on a couple days ago.. anybody else have hardware failures related to that? |
| 15:53.06 | zcot | alsamixer fails for me, isn't there a fancy gui app for that? |
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| 15:54.16 | eguzkia | boot problem VFS: cannot open root device "hda1" or unknown-block(0,0) |
| 15:54.27 | AndersJ | I am having trouble updating my debian unstable installation, I need to install a package named kdelibs4c2a, but it conflicts with kdelibs4c2, which a lot of my software depend on. Could anyone tell me how to fix it, or if it is a temporary situation. Right now i have 85 keeps |
| 15:55.34 | zulu | hi, I NEED HELP, at the end of my harddrive I have a logical fat32 and ext3 filesystem, the problem is, my partition table does not mention them anymore... question, may I recover my 2 logical partitions bounds in order to correct the partition table and perhaps recover my datas? |
| 15:55.44 | AndersJ | eguzkia, try putting in a live linux cd and see if it can see your harddisk partition |
| 15:56.09 | AndersJ | and chechk if it really is hda1 |
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| 15:56.13 | zulu | is there an utility scanning raw harddrive and able to give bounds of ext2 or fat partition? |
| 15:56.13 | Silverpil | anyone have tried a dwl-650+ with airmon? |
| 15:56.25 | nixie | zulu: if you are not 100% exact on re-setting partitions it will fail. |
| 15:56.43 | AndersJ | zulu try fdisk |
| 15:56.50 | zulu | :'( 80gig of music :'( |
| 15:57.04 | AndersJ | is it corrupted |
| 15:57.10 | paulswm | eguzkia: You had these type of issues yesterday, and we explained that you need either to use a standard kernel or ensure that spuurt for your root fs hardware and fs was compiled in to your custom kernel, advice is still the same |
| 15:57.10 | zulu | yes I tried cfdisk but I don't know the bounds of the partitions... |
| 15:57.14 | nixie | zulu: your best bet might be harddisk recovery software. i'm sure itll work for fat, but not sure for ext2 |
| 15:57.22 | paulswm | s/spuurt/support/ |
| 15:57.33 | AndersJ | what output does it give you |
| 15:57.43 | zulu | I did not find any in linux for ext2/3 filesystem... |
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| 15:57.59 | paulswm | zulu: gpart is what you need |
| 15:58.19 | AndersJ | they should all do the trick though |
| 15:58.33 | zulu | gpart? |
| 15:58.41 | paulswm | zulu: yes, gpart |
| 15:58.41 | zulu | it is able to recover bounds of partitions? |
| 15:58.44 | AndersJ | a prtition editor |
| 15:58.52 | eguzkia | paulswm: so the i have to take a standard debian kernel? |
| 15:59.00 | paulswm | zuen: YES, otherwise I wouln't be telling you |
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| 16:00.01 | goron | What should the permissions on /var be? |
| 16:00.09 | paulswm | eguzkia: I repeat, use a standard kernel or ensure that the appropriate support for your root device and filesystem are compiled in to your custom kernel, or build an initrd with your custom kernel |
| 16:00.22 | AndersJ | drwxr-xr-x |
| 16:00.26 | SimonRaven | goron: /var itself? 755 |
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| 16:00.39 | paulswm | goron: on /var, or on its subdirectories? subdirectories differ depending on who owns them |
| 16:00.50 | goron | lpr: error - unable to create temporary file "/var/tmp/4393127c89a0a" - Toegang geweigerd |
| 16:00.57 | secher | are there no ndiswrapper modules for 2.6.12? |
| 16:01.09 | goron | So /var/tmp to be exact. |
| 16:01.11 | zulu | ok I fired up gpart |
| 16:01.37 | paulswm | secher: I'm using ndiswrapper with 2.6.12, I used the standard kernel and a custom one |
| 16:01.39 | eguzkia | paulswm: thank you for your patience :) |
| 16:01.49 | paulswm | eguzkia: You're welcome :) |
| 16:02.00 | SimonRaven | goron: mine are set like /tmp |
| 16:02.03 | goron | Ok, I can print again :) |
| 16:02.14 | SimonRaven | confirmed |
| 16:02.37 | paulswm | eguzkia: It's not a bad idea to keep a standard kernel handy, that way it's easy to boot into it and test whether your root fs is OK and defined correctly in grub or lilo |
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| 16:02.38 | secher | paulswm: Hrm. I must be overlooking something. Thanks paulswm. |
| 16:02.56 | antgel | we had an oops on a server, in kswapd0. no choice but to reboot as couldn't login. think ldap was down. however, some services were still up. could telnet to imap port. is it just the case that after an oops, behaviour of the system is undefined? any technical insight appreciated (yes, i know it's not a question) |
| 16:03.01 | paulswm | secher: You are welcome :) |
| 16:03.04 | SimonRaven | esp. if you're a newbie with kernels |
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| 16:03.29 | hent | secher: you can compile it from source? |
| 16:03.35 | SimonRaven | antgel: that's a pretty serious oops there. kswapd crashing.... |
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| 16:04.05 | paulswm | SimonRaven: Thanks. For no reason other than to move you up in the dumb productivity ranking fakery :P |
| 16:04.22 | AndersJ | i'm running with a raid0 root partition, some that can't even be seen by a stock kernel |
| 16:04.26 | SimonRaven | *blink* |
| 16:04.34 | goron | In Firefox I see under printers: xp_ps_spooldir_HOME_XPrintjobs@:64. How can I remove that entry or do I have to configure something else to make that work? |
| 16:04.46 | SimonRaven | oh, kingsley's crappy "stats" |
| 16:04.56 | paulswm | SimonRaven: :D |
| 16:05.10 | Phated | SimonRaven: Fuck, to even out paulswm's useful thanks. |
| 16:05.19 | paulswm | Phated: Thanks. :P |
| 16:05.33 | Phated | paulswm: No problem. |
| 16:05.36 | SimonRaven | antgel: AFAIK, you did the only thing you could do. thanks Phated :). |
| 16:05.50 | Phated | SimonRaven: Quite so, he did. Thanks, luv. |
| 16:05.53 | SimonRaven | i don't know how to restart a crashed kernel thread... |
| 16:05.57 | paulswm | Heh |
| 16:06.05 | antgel | SimonRaven: indeed. i'm not the happiest bunny. this is the box that *trashed* it's ext3/raid a while back. however smartd reveals nothing out of the ordinary. motherboard is a few years old now, perhaps it's flaky hardware *sigh* |
| 16:06.15 | SimonRaven | (except a reboot :/) |
| 16:06.28 | SimonRaven | could be. |
| 16:06.33 | paulswm | We are going to weight the stats a bit, but thanks again Phated :P |
| 16:06.42 | antgel | paulswm: LEAVE THE STATS ALONE! |
| 16:06.53 | Phated | paulswm: Aye, thanks to us. \o/ |
| 16:06.56 | zulu | ok I use gpart to guess my old partition table, but It gives me offset rounded at Mb, when cfdisk/fdisk give numbers like 3213.21 <- precision :(... |
| 16:06.58 | paulswm | antgel: Thanks for the advice. :P |
| 16:07.02 | Phated | antgel: You mean you CARE about those? Thanks a lot. |
| 16:07.07 | paulswm | antgel: I mean, thanks a lot! |
| 16:07.19 | SimonRaven | fuck the fucking fucking stats that fucking serve no fucking useful fucking purpose except fucking with people's fucking stats |
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| 16:07.25 | sussudio | :-| |
| 16:07.29 | sdakota | bbrazil, Debian's default mailserver is exim4 right? |
| 16:07.35 | SimonRaven | ;). no not yours sussudio |
| 16:07.46 | antgel | paulswm: i thanks it's pretty good advice |
| 16:07.52 | Phated | What a fucking waste of time. |
| 16:07.55 | Phated | And bandwidth. |
| 16:08.08 | Phated | Hear hear. |
| 16:08.15 | paulswm | Oh no, I said "toilet", that's probably a kinglsey bad word |
| 16:08.24 | SimonRaven | leet |
| 16:08.27 | Phated | Oooh, HARSH. |
| 16:08.29 | antgel | paulswm: AS IS "BAD" |
| 16:08.36 | hent | Silverpil some cards cant be set to moniter mode as far as i know |
| 16:08.52 | Silverpil | hent, but when I run iwconfig I see mode: monitor |
| 16:09.07 | Silverpil | and I get no error when iwconfig wlan0 mode Monitor |
| 16:09.21 | Silverpil | wonder if it´s the live cd that is the problme? |
| 16:09.28 | hent | now that's something i wouldnt know about then : / sorry |
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| 16:09.31 | sdakota | exim4 is the default mailserver for debian, right? |
| 16:09.52 | goron | How can I ditch xp_ps_spooldir_HOME_XPrintjobs@:64 from Firefox? |
| 16:10.14 | m1ll3` | is there some kind of aircrack for ndiswrapper module-cards |
| 16:10.26 | nixie | m1ll3`: afaik, no. |
| 16:10.28 | llp | sdakota: right |
| 16:10.30 | Silverpil | m1 don´t think so what I have heard |
| 16:10.46 | SimonRaven | goron: it's probably either on some winxp host or in cups somewhere. remove it from there |
| 16:11.22 | sdakota | llp: is "apt-get install postfix" enough to set postfix to the new mailserver? |
| 16:11.28 | m1ll3` | seems that one of my neighbours has a wpa-secured network. would love to use it with my crappy 10 euro mavell card |
| 16:11.43 | hent | are you actually able to use moniter mode working with ndiswrapper? |
| 16:11.44 | sussudio | Phated: http://img456.imageshack.us/img456/7377/furryphated1sj.jpg |
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| 16:11.57 | Pimpinella | hi sussudio |
| 16:11.58 | bbrazil | sdakota: on sarge |
| 16:12.04 | sdakota | bbrazil: ye |
| 16:12.06 | sdakota | s* |
| 16:12.08 | Phated | sussudio: Heh. |
| 16:12.09 | sdakota | yes* |
| 16:12.11 | Pimpinella | havn't seen you in a while |
| 16:12.14 | Phated | sussudio: Cute. |
| 16:12.40 | sussudio | Pimpinella: myeah. devs ignoring me kinda does that. |
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| 16:13.00 | Pimpinella | sussudio: ignoring you? |
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| 16:13.34 | sussudio | Pimpinella: any bzflag version past 2.0.5.20051018 basically crashes on my computer |
| 16:13.45 | Pimpinella | sussudio: may i pm? |
| 16:13.52 | jimcooncat | looking for a simple gui password changer, like kdepasswd, only I'm running xfce/gnome |
| 16:13.53 | llp | sdakota: probably, yes. |
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| 16:13.58 | sussudio | Pimpinella: *shrug* |
| 16:14.01 | sdakota | llp: ok |
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| 16:14.56 | novakreo | Hi. Does anyone know how to set-up dual monitors without slowing Xorg right down? |
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| 16:16.35 | sdakota | what does -t "testing" do to apt-get ? |
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| 16:17.02 | Punko | which messenger supports cameras for yahoo ? |
| 16:17.04 | antgel | sdakota: man apt-get |
| 16:17.15 | jsz | how do I add a user to the sudo file? |
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| 16:17.28 | antgel | jsz: man visudo |
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| 16:17.48 | cr3 | how can I reconfigure X and change the color depth for example? |
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| 16:17.57 | antgel | !tell cr3 about drxx |
| 16:17.57 | sdakota | antgel: that only tells me about -t, not about -t "testing" |
| 16:17.59 | sfullenwider | Any video editing app recommendations? |
| 16:18.17 | eguzkia | see you |
| 16:18.47 | antgel | sdakota: you're not reading it properly. "creates a default pin at priority 990 using the specified release string" |
| 16:18.59 | paulswm | sdakota: The man entry for -t tells you exactly what -t testing means |
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| 16:19.08 | cr3 | antgel: cheers, how can I get info about xmd5? |
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| 16:19.18 | antgel | !tell cr3 about xmd5 |
| 16:19.35 | sdakota | antgel / paulswm : what is a "pin" exaclty >.< |
| 16:19.56 | antgel | !tell sdakota about apt-howto |
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| 16:20.20 | antgel | i feel like a bot-triggering bot |
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| 16:21.06 | KomiaPoika | dpkg: gender? |
| 16:21.06 | dpkg | I'm lesbian |
| 16:21.10 | m1ll3` | lol |
| 16:21.11 | predius_ | is there a way to get linux-image 2.6.12 with debian patches? |
| 16:21.12 | paulswm | sdakota: a pin is a priority. man apt-preferences |
| 16:21.14 | hent | now thats a nice gender :P |
| 16:21.19 | antgel | dpkg: that's not a gender |
| 16:21.21 | nico_ | hello is somebody i have a little question |
| 16:21.22 | KomiaPoika | that's not a gender. |
| 16:21.27 | nico_ | about kernel compilation |
| 16:21.35 | antgel | !literal gender |
| 16:21.36 | dpkg | "#debian gender" is "<reply> I'm (gay|lesbian|female|sexless|male|hermaphroditic|pregnant|not sure)" |
| 16:21.45 | zulu | hey, I try to recover my partitions table with gpart but it gives me partitions with Mb, and I would like to have cylinders or something more precise to give to fdisk... is it possible? |
| 16:21.46 | sdakota | ugh |
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| 16:21.55 | sdakota | this is out of my hands, i'll just take another guide +o( |
| 16:22.09 | paulswm | KomiaPoika: It implies a gender though, seen any male lesbians? :P |
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| 16:22.27 | antgel | paulswm: but it's too much info :) |
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| 16:22.42 | KomiaPoika | paulswm: what about horny shemales |
| 16:22.46 | KomiaPoika | dpkg: gender? |
| 16:22.46 | dpkg | I'm pregnant |
| 16:22.48 | KomiaPoika | dpkg: gender? |
| 16:22.51 | linoleum | hello , I got a problem , I need to install a paquage (kdelibs-data) , but when I try to install it , it gives me an error : kdelibs-data try to install /usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop, but it already owns to the libdjvulibre15 paquage... |
| 16:23.02 | antgel | KomiaPoika: there goes your Productivity(tm) |
| 16:23.06 | paulswm | antgel: Oh no, now I used the 'l' word, I am a bad person in you-know-who's stats |
| 16:23.08 | goron | SimonRaven: The cause is xprint. |
| 16:23.24 | antgel | linoleum: what release of debian are you running? |
| 16:23.32 | KomiaPoika | antgel: ? |
| 16:23.34 | KomiaPoika | dpkg: gender? |
| 16:23.35 | dpkg | I'm lesbian |
| 16:23.52 | goron | SimonRaven: I now did /etc/init.d/xprint stop, but now it takes ages for firefox to load the Print screen. |
| 16:23.53 | sussudio | ... |
| 16:23.56 | antgel | !tell KomiaPoika about msg the bot |
| 16:23.57 | paulswm | I suppose I could be a lesbian trapped in a man's body |
| 16:24.11 | nico_ | i use make-kpkg to compile my kernel and it gave me a linux-image...deb package. But when a try to install it gave me an error 128 |
| 16:24.23 | linoleum | antgel, I'm under sid, and I try to install KDE 3.5 everythings ok , I just got the kdelibs-data problem |
| 16:24.46 | antgel | linoleum: unstable by name, broken (sometimes) by nature |
| 16:24.53 | SimonRaven | goron: probably need to restart FF |
| 16:25.07 | goron | SimonRaven: Did that already, |
| 16:25.12 | linoleum | antgel, lol yes thank you very much for this infomation ;) |
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| 16:25.36 | linoleum | how can I force the installation of kdelibs-data? |
| 16:26.06 | cr3 | is there a way to have a different X configuration for users on a system instead of everyone having to use /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? |
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| 16:27.03 | goron | I think this is a firefox bug. konqueror has no problems with it. |
| 16:27.04 | antgel | linoleum: no problem. i'm not sure why the same type of people who use unstable are the type of people who insist on trying to run massive, bloated, dependency-rich packages on it |
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| 16:27.21 | antgel | cr3: not afaik |
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| 16:28.16 | linoleum | antgel, because it gives me orgasm when there is briken packages |
| 16:28.21 | goron | !opera |
| 16:28.22 | dpkg | from memory, opera is a commercial web browser for Linux/Windows and other OSes. Version 6 for Linux is out and debs are available on the download page at http://www.opera.com/download/linux.html or at 'deb http://www.opera.com/debian potato non-free', or that deb line is reported to be maybe broken. go poke around the site. go full screen mode and right click> show menu bar> [and avoid the ads] damn nice browser, especially under the hood. no java ... |
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| 16:28.48 | cahoot | 8.51 rather |
| 16:29.03 | riot | can someone name me a good utility to catalogue and search large media(DVD,CD,HD)-collections? |
| 16:29.11 | antgel | it's never "ooh, grep won't install on unstable" or "vacation won't install on unstable". it's always "i'm trying to run kde-phat on a mixed unstable / kubuntu / marillat / redhat system with kernel packages from experimental and reiserfs" |
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| 16:29.20 | SimonRaven | goron: i don't have such a problem. even with xprint installed on another box |
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| 16:29.36 | antgel | riot: any database can do that |
| 16:29.41 | goron | SimonRaven: Then I might need a reboot of something else. |
| 16:29.55 | goron | SimonRaven: But disabling xprint removed the entry. |
| 16:30.01 | linoleum | antgel, if I want to have something running without problem on my computer, I would use windows ;) |
| 16:30.19 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 16:30.29 | SimonRaven | afk, making food |
| 16:30.55 | riot | antgel: yes. but i don't wanna write a package around $DATABASE, because i strongly believe, that there is such a tool already |
| 16:31.01 | antgel | linoleum: no you wouldn't |
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| 16:31.32 | riot | I just want to put in some media, make the "indexer" start and get back a "number" (or e.g.barcode) so i now what dvd to pick from a "query" |
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| 16:32.10 | antgel | riot: like cddb? (obviously not for dvds) |
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| 16:32.38 | antgel | !tell m_athias about away |
| 16:32.48 | riot | antgel: something like that, yes.. but for all sorts of content (a filelist for every media would be absolutely sufficient) |
| 16:34.14 | antgel | riot: best i can come up with is http://www.linuxlinks.com/Software/Home_and_Education/Cataloging/ |
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| 16:34.19 | roob | I have a problem. Mail is not coming through my aliases I set it /etc/aliases. E.g. "root: mailuser" does not route the mails for root to mailuser. I'm using postfix and I have restarted postfix after conf change. Any ideas? |
| 16:34.39 | riot | thx antgel, i'm gonna check that |
| 16:34.56 | riot | if i don't find anything by this evening, i'm gonna write something :) |
| 16:35.06 | antgel | riot: and then package it for debian :P |
| 16:35.09 | riot | (it's not that i've not been looking...) |
| 16:35.23 | riot | sure, but i've never done that before. I'd use python or ruby for that |
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| 16:35.53 | SimonRaven | you need to run postalias |
| 16:36.16 | goron | cahoot: So basically I can't use Java in Opera... |
| 16:36.37 | roob | SimonRaven: oh ok, forgot that, thanks - so many things to look out for |
| 16:36.48 | tof | Hi guys, do you know any application that can work on several pictures at once (like resize all the pictures to the same size)? |
| 16:36.49 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai guys, do you know any application that can work on several pictures at once (like resize all the pictures to the same size)! |
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| 16:37.19 | antgel | is it me or is the bot alive? |
| 16:37.32 | thingfish | dpkg has gone crazy. |
| 16:37.53 | riot | antgel: huh, that list looks pretty extensive.. |
| 16:37.55 | antgel | that opera factoid sucked |
| 16:37.58 | SimonRaven | some asshole took dpkg's nick while it was gone |
| 16:38.01 | tof | whoaa some times I wich I was a bot... |
| 16:38.28 | antgel | riot: i found it using a search engine called google :P |
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| 16:38.39 | SimonRaven | dpkg: you're going to get ghosted when the bot comes back |
| 16:38.50 | SimonRaven | bwahahaha |
| 16:38.55 | riot | antgel: yea, i heard of that one. Was just looking for something in the debian-tree.. but apt-cache did not understand my intentions |
| 16:39.06 | OpenSores | how can i type characters like àáâãäåçèéêë |
| 16:39.19 | blondie | OpenSores: sorry you have to use English |
| 16:39.20 | riot | wtf steals dpkg's nick!? what a dumb action |
| 16:39.25 | antgel | !test |
| 16:39.26 | dpkg | No, antgel, you're not online any more. |
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| 16:39.33 | antgel | hey hey ;) |
| 16:39.38 | paulswm | !irritate antgel |
| 16:39.38 | dpkg | antgel: hi every1 who uses cable !!!1 |
| 16:39.39 | bbrazil | SimonRaven: dpkg has been acting a bit odd like that for the past day or so |
| 16:39.42 | tof | OpenSores, you are typing thoses cars right now |
| 16:39.46 | SimonRaven | wtf |
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| 16:39.53 | bbrazil | do something |
| 16:39.56 | SimonRaven | hmm |
| 16:40.05 | bbrazil | hmm, that appeard to be a trigger earlier |
| 16:40.06 | tof | OpenSores, at least I'm seeing them... |
| 16:40.11 | cr3 | how do I temporarily disable gdm? |
| 16:40.16 | SimonRaven | dpkg: listvals Long days and pleasant |
| 16:40.17 | OpenSores | yes.. but i want to type them with my keyboard |
| 16:40.18 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'Long days and pleasant' by value (1): CMD: hi (.*?). |
| 16:40.32 | tof | cr3, /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 16:40.59 | antgel | OpenSores: your characters look like gibberish on my screen |
| 16:41.03 | bbrazil | SimonRaven: it seems that the ! is now optional |
| 16:41.13 | SimonRaven | dpkg: literal CMD: hi (.*?) |
| 16:41.14 | dpkg | "#debian cmd: hi (.*?)" is "($1): <reply>(Many greetings, $1, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty.|Long days and pleasant nights, sai $1!)" |
| 16:41.14 | cr3 | tof: if I do that and exit my window manager, I shouldn't get gdm anymore, right? |
| 16:41.15 | OpenSores | perhaps i'm using the wrong character encoding then |
| 16:41.18 | nlight | Do you know that 8 hobits make a hobyte (; |
| 16:41.21 | thma | Question: how do I tell which modules my debian based system is using for the NIC? |
| 16:41.26 | antgel | tell antgel about dpkg |
| 16:41.27 | paulswm | tof: Don't use it much myself, but I suspect that the imagemagick package has such a tool |
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| 16:41.40 | antgel | bbrazil: nope |
| 16:41.55 | OpenSores | I want to type the accent characters that are used in Spanish without having to copy and paste them |
| 16:41.57 | nefertum | will enlightenment 17 be in debian unstable someday? |
| 16:41.58 | bbrazil | antgel: I think tell is a builtin |
| 16:41.59 | antgel | thma: what debian release? |
| 16:42.15 | tof | cr3, exit your wm first, go to a text console, and then stop gdm, or I suspect it will exit your wm violently... |
| 16:42.20 | antgel | bbrazil: i defer to you. bot-fu is not one of my strong points |
| 16:42.22 | SimonRaven | bbrazil: yeh, that's a blootbot setting. addressing: OPTIONAL |
| 16:42.29 | tof | paulswm, thanks, I'll look in that way |
| 16:42.32 | OpenSores | There was something I could do in Fedora where I could press a key then when I pressed 'e' it would cycle through the characters: e è é ê ë |
| 16:42.35 | thma | well i am using the simply meipis live cd because it detects the CK8S nic and i want to use debian 3.1r0a |
| 16:42.47 | bbrazil | SimonRaven: this could make things quite interesting |
| 16:42.50 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: i think you need to check on dpkg's settings. seems it's responding to addressing without commandchar |
| 16:42.54 | antgel | nefertum: we can't predict the future. but licence permitting, perhaps |
| 16:42.59 | OpenSores | no one knows then |
| 16:43.28 | SimonRaven | !wir |
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| 16:43.28 | dpkg | from memory, wir is When It's Ready. See also RSN and SIYH |
| 16:43.34 | dusk | where is a good place to start learning about tcp/ip? |
| 16:43.36 | SimonRaven | nefertum: ^^^ |
| 16:43.45 | SimonRaven | dusk: the RFCs |
| 16:43.55 | thma | in other words sarge |
| 16:43.57 | kuhwalllskee | I'm in etch and I'm trying to configure my sound. I ran alsaconf but it won't work what else do I need to do? |
| 16:43.59 | antgel | dusk: tanenbaum |
| 16:44.07 | paulswm | tof: You're welcome - if not there, use apt-search to look for packages, what you're looking for seems like it would be useful enough that someone has written a tool :) |
| 16:44.12 | kuhwalllskee | alsa conf ran sucessfully. |
| 16:44.21 | paulswm | tof: I mean apt-cache search of course |
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| 16:44.27 | SimonRaven | !doesn't work |
| 16:44.27 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 16:44.27 | bbrazil | dusk: tldp.org, network guides |
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| 16:44.30 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: you need to tell us what errors you have and check your mixer |
| 16:44.46 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, everything tells me no such device. |
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| 16:44.51 | riot | btw. i have found gtkatalog in the debian-tree. Now going ahead, testing it |
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| 16:45.35 | tof | paulswm, I tried apt-cache search and nothing came for "mass image", and so on... Musn't have used the right keywords :-) |
| 16:45.56 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, in /dev/ I have adsp, dsp and mixer |
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| 16:45.59 | OpenSores | how can i type characters like àáâãäåçèéêë |
| 16:46.14 | paulswm | tof: maybe apt-cache search image | less and then open another terminal to do the apt-cache show stuff :) |
| 16:46.17 | SimonRaven | like what? |
| 16:46.19 | tarzeau | OpenSores: x? console? |
| 16:46.29 | OpenSores | tarzeau, x |
| 16:46.31 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: lsmod |grep snd |
| 16:46.38 | tarzeau | OpenSores: got the right keyboard for it? |
| 16:46.45 | tarzeau | OpenSores: and the right setxkbmap |
| 16:46.50 | thma | I read to use procinfo -a but that sisnt give mt the module name mearly the device which i already knew |
| 16:47.07 | OpenSores | no.. but i did use something that let me press the windows key to cycle through the letters |
| 16:47.21 | paulswm | OpenSores: I don't usually mind nicks, but I find yours satisfyingly unsettling, which I assume is the goal :P |
| 16:47.24 | antgel | tarzeau: i tried to play nethack again last night but it's so confusing. am i allowed to play the x11 version or will that make me a lamer? :) |
| 16:47.40 | tarzeau | antgel: no x11 is fine |
| 16:47.41 | tof | paulswm, thanks :-) |
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| 16:47.55 | dusk | and one newb question: how do I remove menu items from gnome main menu? |
| 16:47.56 | paulswm | tof: yw, buddy :) |
| 16:47.56 | kuhwalllskee | antgel: all the modules are there too many for me to list here |
| 16:47.59 | OpenSores | paulswm, well it's supposed to a misspelling of "open source" |
| 16:48.01 | antgel | tarzeau: okay. i might have another go tonight. i'm determined to see that the fuss is about |
| 16:48.05 | OpenSores | maybe i'll pick another nick eh? |
| 16:48.08 | tarzeau | antgel: got www.linuks.mine-nu/conf/dotnethackrc ? |
| 16:48.09 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: /topic |
| 16:48.16 | paulswm | OpenSores: Aaah, then it's witty as well :) |
| 16:48.21 | SimonRaven | obviously i'm missing chars in this incomplete unicode font.... |
| 16:48.24 | antgel | tarzeau: wrong link |
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| 16:48.38 | tarzeau | antgel: . instead of - |
| 16:48.49 | thma | I believe it is using forcedeth but how can i be certain |
| 16:48.54 | antgel | tarzeau: i could have guessed |
| 16:48.55 | tarzeau | antgel: one is a lamer if he gives up ascending |
| 16:49.14 | kuhwalllskee | antgel: use paster? |
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| 16:49.42 | paulswm | Hey, tarzeau, long time since we last spoke, I hope that you are well and doing OK. :) |
| 16:50.07 | tof | paulswm, imagemagick is the right thing to do mass manipulation on images, thanks a lot! |
| 16:50.21 | tarzeau | paulswm: i'm fine, there's a few goals that i keep missing, but oh well, i keep trying |
| 16:50.24 | antgel | tarzeau: i'll bear that in mind. :) i can't work out the most basic things. e.g. there was a fountain, so i drunk. and again. second time, snakes came out and killed me! it was all looking juciy till then, i had reached experience 2! |
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| 16:50.32 | paulswm | tof: Yay, next time you're in central Florida, you owe me a beer :P |
| 16:50.42 | antgel | !beer paulswm |
| 16:50.43 | tarzeau | antgel: don't drink from them, unless you know what comes out you can murder |
| 16:50.52 | Jay16K | i dunno why i got a higlight on yay |
| 16:50.55 | tof | paulswm, I'll forget |
| 16:50.56 | tarzeau | antgel: same for shops, don't steal unless you know you can murder the shopkeeper |
| 16:51.01 | kuhwalllskee | antgel http://pastebin.com/448417 |
| 16:51.04 | tof | s/ / not § |
| 16:51.07 | tarzeau | antgel: or do you rob a bank when you know they'll catch you? |
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| 16:51.19 | paulswm | tarzeau: Story of my life, too, anyway it's good to see you man |
| 16:51.26 | antgel | tarzeau: you got that right :) i suspect that under the crap graphics lies something that could occupy all my waking hours |
| 16:51.56 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: that's good. you just need to get your mixer working. use alsamixer(gui) or aumix |
| 16:52.03 | tarzeau | antgel: nethack gets any woman pissed |
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| 16:52.05 | SimonRaven | what, nethack? |
| 16:52.10 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: #nethack |
| 16:52.13 | SimonRaven | uh hunh |
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| 16:52.33 | SimonRaven | this fricking lag throws my timing off... |
| 16:52.40 | antgel | tarzeau: ooh. at first that sounded good. pissed in .uk means drunk. then i realised you meant angry :( |
| 16:52.42 | Coutal | hello, is there any way to select bigger fonts on the console? i need a font suitable for a 1280x1024 display |
| 16:52.44 | tarzeau | paulswm: i'll hopefully have a new version of the gnustep live cd by christmas this year ;) it'll be so uber the best |
| 16:53.05 | kuhwalllskee | antgel alsamixer tells me no such device |
| 16:53.10 | SimonRaven | antgel: means both here |
| 16:53.26 | bouh | coutal: which console |
| 16:53.32 | antgel | SimonRaven: in .uk, pissed *off* = angry |
| 16:53.46 | SimonRaven | same here |
| 16:53.53 | bouh | what console, sorry ? [eamx]term |
| 16:53.56 | antgel | !beer SimonRaven |
| 16:53.58 | tarzeau | antgel: telnet linuks.mine.nu 27015 |
| 16:54.01 | bouh | or the tty[1-6] ? |
| 16:54.10 | Coutal | bouh: not under X. the regular console. ttyX, yeah |
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| 16:54.13 | SimonRaven | "i'm so pissed" == drunk, or angry |
| 16:54.16 | Coutal | well, /dev/fb0 if you wanna be a nitpick |
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| 16:54.27 | bouh | so you got to modify your boot loader conf |
| 16:54.33 | SimonRaven | thanks |
| 16:54.35 | bouh | I can give you hints with lilo |
| 16:54.42 | bouh | I dunno about grub |
| 16:54.43 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: hmm. you're not in the audio group, are you, you naughty minx! |
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| 16:54.50 | bouh | which one you are using ? |
| 16:54.54 | paulswm | tarzeau: You are the only person I know who uses "gnustep" and "best" in the same sentence. :P |
| 16:54.54 | kuhwalllskee | antgel hmmm this is as root. |
| 16:54.58 | SimonRaven | *hinthintwithlilo* |
| 16:55.05 | Coutal | bouh: if it's a kernel parameter, maybe i can pass it to the module, since fb doesn't get loaded automatically |
| 16:55.10 | tarzeau | paulswm: heh, fine for me :) |
| 16:55.10 | Coutal | what's the parameter? |
| 16:55.12 | antgel | tarzeau: please tell me i'm not watching you play nethack now |
| 16:55.21 | tarzeau | antgel: yes you are, realtime ;) |
| 16:55.24 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: why are you running such things as root? |
| 16:55.34 | bouh | well it's just a config of the vga consol |
| 16:55.35 | tarzeau | antgel: www.linuks.mine.nu/nethack/ see the nethackd cheap hack |
| 16:55.44 | kuhwalllskee | antgel: so I dont' ahve to worry about permissiosn. |
| 16:55.46 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, heh |
| 16:55.49 | bouh | no kernel param, at least I don't think it is |
| 16:55.49 | paulswm | tarzeau: Still fooling around with dragons and bubbles? :) |
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| 16:55.54 | Coutal | bouh: okay, so what should i add to lilo conf? |
| 16:56.07 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: don't be a plum. ls /dev/snd |
| 16:56.10 | tarzeau | paulswm: no i've been busy with life and other stuff |
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| 16:56.25 | antgel | tarzeau: life is the way forward :) |
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| 16:56.29 | paulswm | tarzeau: *and* nethack, you forgot to mention that :) |
| 16:56.33 | bouh | let me ckeck |
| 16:56.36 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, I have all the stuff in the /dev/snd |
| 16:56.48 | Coutal | be back in a sec |
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| 16:57.06 | paulswm | antgel: If you're watching tarzeau play nethack, you really need to get a life man |
| 16:57.07 | bouh | vga=ext |
| 16:57.10 | bouh | voila |
| 16:57.19 | bouh | or "vga=9" |
| 16:57.26 | bouh | or you can try other params |
| 16:57.30 | antgel | paulswm: ssh, he's at a good bit! |
| 16:57.45 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, wait I have an idea. |
| 16:58.13 | tarzeau | paulswm: i'm not that bad, i've ascended once |
| 16:58.18 | Oryn | does anyone know about using saslauthd with exim? |
| 16:58.25 | kuhwalllskee | antgel brb |
| 16:58.25 | antgel | !tell Oryn about ask |
| 16:58.59 | paulswm | tarzeau: I'm sure that you're good, I didn't mean to imply that you were a bad player :) |
| 16:59.01 | Oryn | antgel: and that wasn't a question? |
| 16:59.31 | antgel | Oryn: not one that will get you a useful answer. imagine if 700 people replied yes or no :) |
| 16:59.33 | paulswm | Oryn: It was a question, but a bit non-specific |
| 17:00.34 | antgel | tarzeau: my basic problem is that i don't know what anything is, i don't know what the controls are, i don't know how things interact, and i don't know what to do. apart from that i understand nethack well |
| 17:01.01 | Oryn | ok then, I'm trying to use saslauthd with exim4 and pam_mysql. My problem is that no matter what I do I cant make sasl use anything in /etc/pam.d other than common-auth |
| 17:01.12 | tarzeau | antgel: using my config file controls are numeric pad movement |
| 17:01.16 | antgel | tarzeau: if i want to kill something do i just walk towards it or should i use my sword? |
| 17:01.22 | tarzeau | antgel: e=eat, t=throw, ctrl-d=kick |
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| 17:01.30 | tarzeau | antgel: that ,=pickup that gets you far already |
| 17:01.37 | tarzeau | antgel: oh and try #chat to monsters, very funny |
| 17:01.53 | Oryn | when cyrus talks to saslauthd is uses imap and pop |
| 17:01.58 | tarzeau | antgel: yeah wielding a weapon, and running into a monster will use the weapon |
| 17:02.15 | antgel | tarzeau: i'm fine with the movement controls. it's just remembering what the key is for e.g. put something on my head or make dinner etc :) |
| 17:02.24 | Oryn | there is a service option in exim but it seems to be ignored |
| 17:02.44 | Oryn | using pam directly in exim is broken |
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| 17:02.55 | antgel | Oryn: a much better question but i know nothing about sasl :) |
| 17:02.59 | ultraviolet16 | hi everyone, what's the cleanest way to get rid of kde? |
| 17:02.59 | dpkg | Many greetings, everyone, what's the cleanest way to get rid of kde, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 17:03.12 | antgel | hmm |
| 17:03.16 | tarzeau | antgel: ? gets you a help |
| 17:03.21 | antgel | hi all, i want to go and bash one out |
| 17:03.24 | Oryn | antgel: thats why I asked if anyone knew about exim and sasl |
| 17:03.43 | linoleum | antgel, well, finaly , I found how to fix the probleme : dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/thepackage ... thanks for you help :) |
| 17:03.48 | ultraviolet16 | i tried apt-get remove i tried apt-get remove kde but it said it would free 45 kb.. |
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| 17:04.04 | KomiaPoika | confirmed, it's apt-get dist-upgrade that destroyed my nic support ... just reinstalled everything the same way without dist-, and its fine now. |
| 17:04.04 | Oryn | antgel: no point me asking anything more if noone knows about it |
| 17:04.08 | Phated | !remove kde |
| 17:04.08 | dpkg | remove kde is probably apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 17:04.12 | Phated | Have fun. |
| 17:04.13 | antgel | Oryn: which was still pointless :) /j #exim perhaps |
| 17:04.22 | Zugschlus | Oryn: why don't you follow the package maintainers' advice and use saslauthd instead of pam? |
| 17:04.23 | Oryn | antgel: tried there :( |
| 17:04.41 | antgel | Oryn: there you go, Zugschlus knows his stuff :) |
| 17:04.48 | ac3 | Hi |
| 17:04.56 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: should I just format and and not install kde in the first place? |
| 17:04.57 | Zugschlus | antgel: I don't know _that_ stuff, authentication is nutmeg's part |
| 17:05.05 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: that's where i usually get mauled ;) |
| 17:05.12 | Zugschlus | antgel: but I suspect that he had a good reason to recommend saslauthd in the README.Debian ifle |
| 17:05.15 | Zugschlus | file |
| 17:05.15 | Oryn | Zugschlus: I'm trying to do that, but how to tell saslauthd what file in /etc/pam.d to use |
| 17:05.26 | Zugschlus | Oryn: what's wrong with the default? |
| 17:05.33 | Phated | ultraviolet16: Ehm? |
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| 17:05.53 | ac3 | I habe installed a "base" debian system i would like to use as a template for all other systems. What would be the best way to transfer it to a new server? |
| 17:06.03 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: I mean like format my hd and then re-install debian then not install kde |
| 17:06.05 | Zugschlus | besides that, I recommend not authenticating against account passwords |
| 17:06.18 | paulswm | ultraviolet16: that's the best by far, just don't choose the 'desktop' installation option which IIRC installs everything, kde *and* gnome, but install desktop stuff by hand after installation |
| 17:06.19 | Oryn | Zugschlus: it wants to use common-auth but I want to use pam_mysql for email and not mess with the other services |
| 17:06.24 | aarkerio | Hi, how can I know if I have 3D acceleration? |
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| 17:06.32 | Phated | ultraviolet16: Again, what? dpkg just SAID how to remove KDE. |
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| 17:06.42 | Phated | !remove kde |
| 17:06.42 | dpkg | i guess remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 17:06.46 | m1ll3` | aarkerio: look at your fps xD |
| 17:06.46 | Phated | ^ See? |
| 17:06.50 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: I also tried apt-get remove kde* which wanted to remove a lot of stuff |
| 17:06.53 | paulswm | Phated: But you still get left with a lot of apps, IIRC |
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| 17:07.06 | Sepero | Help needed here. I posted this: http://justlinux.com/forum/showthread.php?t=143695 |
| 17:07.11 | antgel | tarzeau: i have a 30 minute tube (metro) journey home. i'm debating whether i run emacs to work on a customer proposal, or nethack, and save the work till i get home :) |
| 17:07.12 | Phated | paulswm: No, everything that's a K-app depends on those, so yeah. |
| 17:07.15 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: yeah I saw, I'm reading dpkg now, but I was just wondering if that would get rid of EVERYTHING |
| 17:07.16 | bouh | aarkerio : glxinfo |
| 17:07.17 | tob_ | how do i change from debian stable to unstable version? yust a nwe sources.list? |
| 17:07.24 | Phated | ultraviolet16: And? Those are all part of KDE, and you want rid of it, don't you? |
| 17:07.27 | Oryn | Zugschlus: it would be great if the default was to use smtp or exim etc |
| 17:07.28 | antgel | !iyhtays tob_ |
| 17:07.29 | dpkg | tob_: If You Have To Ask, You Shouldn't. |
| 17:07.30 | paulswm | If ultraviolet16 has the option to reinstall, that is certainly what I would do, in fact I'm thinking of doing it on one box |
| 17:07.31 | tarzeau | antgel: you know there is nethack-el ? |
| 17:07.33 | Zugschlus | Oryn: why don't you directly authenticate against mysql? |
| 17:07.43 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: i want to get rid of all kde not just part of it |
| 17:07.57 | Phated | ultraviolet16: And that WILL be rid of all of KDE, since all of KDE depends on it. |
| 17:07.58 | Oryn | Zugschlus: because I have crypted passwords |
| 17:07.59 | Zugschlus | exim -> saslauthd -> mysql -> account data seems to be a little indirect |
| 17:08.06 | ultraviolet16 | hmm let me try |
| 17:08.07 | bouh | aakerio: you look for the second line |
| 17:08.08 | tob_ | dpkg, why? |
| 17:08.09 | dpkg | Because! |
| 17:08.09 | Zugschlus | Oryn: crypt(1)? |
| 17:08.10 | antgel | tarzeau: no but nothing surprises me. i'm not one to want to do anything in emacs apart from (shock horror) edit text |
| 17:08.12 | orchid | Sepero: check the version of ff your using is compatible with the extension |
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| 17:08.36 | Oryn | Zugschlus: mysql crypt'd |
| 17:08.42 | Zugschlus | hm. |
| 17:08.53 | aarkerio | I get "direct rendering: No" |
| 17:08.54 | Zugschlus | can't help you with that, sorry |
| 17:09.01 | Oryn | Zugschlus: I already have cyrus working with it great |
| 17:09.08 | bouh | then that's bad new :) |
| 17:09.20 | aarkerio | I have an 82845g intel graphic card |
| 17:09.35 | Sepero | orchid: Yes, it says it's compatible |
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| 17:09.37 | Oryn | antgel: because my user's are listed in a mysql database |
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| 17:09.52 | Sepero | Does Flashgot install on your system? |
| 17:09.55 | bouh | try looking at your Xorg.0.log |
| 17:09.59 | bouh | for errors |
| 17:10.02 | antgel | Oryn: following on from that, i don't understand why anyone would want to do that :) |
| 17:10.09 | bouh | in the loading of the X server |
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| 17:10.33 | orchid | Sepero: I only use flashblock |
| 17:10.39 | antgel | tarzeau: are you playing the x11 version now? and why did you just eat a bee corpse? |
| 17:10.39 | randey | how to build deb for ipw2200? I installed ipw2200-source.deb and ieee80211 |
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| 17:10.41 | aarkerio | ok thx! |
| 17:10.45 | bruc1 | hi |
| 17:10.50 | bouh | your welcome |
| 17:10.51 | tarzeau | antgel: why should i not eat bee corpses? |
| 17:10.56 | fowler | I have 2 external drives conected via USB. When I boot they are detected AFTER Debian mounts all its filesystems so my entries for them in /etc/fstab don't take effect. How do I get these drives to mount in Debian automatically on boot? |
| 17:10.57 | antgel | !tell randey about usd |
| 17:10.57 | Oryn | antgel: well maybe because its simple, when I tried to use ldap I failed |
| 17:10.57 | tarzeau | antgel: no i play the console one |
| 17:11.02 | bouh | s/r/"'re"/ |
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| 17:11.19 | antgel | tarzeau: it doesn't sound all that sensible to me. i drunk from a fountain (much more sensible) and got killed! |
| 17:11.22 | Coutal | bouh: i'm back. did you find it? |
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| 17:11.26 | bruc1 | does this iptable rules is riht? : "iptables -A INPUT -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -s 172.16.6.254 -j ACCEPT" |
| 17:11.32 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: because you just got poisoned by it? :) |
| 17:11.33 | Sepero | orchid: How did you install it? |
| 17:11.51 | bouh | yes I posted it |
| 17:11.57 | bouh | it's the line vga |
| 17:12.00 | Coutal | k sec lemme scroll back |
| 17:12.03 | antgel | Oryn: it pays to learn the best tool for the job (usually). ldap is a minefield, i admit, but once you get it, sweet |
| 17:12.05 | bouh | for lilo |
| 17:12.06 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: ok i ran that command and after I typed in again "apt-get remove kde* which removed still another 75.6mb of space |
| 17:12.07 | bouh | you set it |
| 17:12.08 | orchid | Sepero: just clicked on the install link, but you need java installed first |
| 17:12.14 | bouh | vga=ext |
| 17:12.20 | Coutal | or vga=9 |
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| 17:12.21 | Coutal | found it |
| 17:12.23 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: of course not |
| 17:12.25 | bouh | ye |
| 17:12.27 | Phated | ultraviolet16: Yay? |
| 17:12.30 | SimonRaven | ow. lightning |
| 17:12.30 | antgel | SimonRaven: are you watching tarzeau as well? |
| 17:12.33 | ultraviolet16 | it removed kdeartwork-misc kdeartwork-theme-icon kdebase-data kdeedu-data |
| 17:12.35 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 17:12.38 | Sepero | orchid: Thanks for your help. |
| 17:12.40 | bouh | if there is no effect at reboot |
| 17:12.41 | ultraviolet16 | and then.. |
| 17:12.42 | ultraviolet16 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:12.47 | bouh | that mean the option |
| 17:12.49 | SimonRaven | oh MM |
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| 17:13.03 | hent | fowler im really not sure about this, but maybe it has something to do with usb/usbfs being a module instead of being in the kernel |
| 17:13.03 | ultraviolet16 | Phated: i'm just bringing up the point that what dpkg said may of been imcomplete |
| 17:13.12 | antgel | tarzeau: you'd better perform - you've got a crowd :P |
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| 17:13.15 | bouh | in the kernel is not set |
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| 17:13.19 | Phated | 'may have', if you really must, but all right. So change it. |
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| 17:13.26 | sonyman | what do I need to install the kernel source package on etch? |
| 17:13.28 | dusk | i need a good newsreader for files |
| 17:13.36 | SimonRaven | i'm learning actually |
| 17:13.37 | sonyman | apt only lists 2.4* versions |
| 17:13.39 | tarzeau | antgel: don't worry, worry only when there are yellow c or tentacle brain monsters |
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| 17:13.45 | antgel | soulreaper: the package |
| 17:13.45 | bouh | actually to activate the vga selection at boot time you need an option in the kernel |
| 17:13.46 | hent | sonyman : apt-get installer kernel-source* ? |
| 17:13.56 | ultraviolet16 | adding the line "apt-get remove kde*" would be helpful I think.. |
| 17:13.59 | allan | Hi all |
| 17:14.03 | sonyman | hent, apt only lists 2.4* versions |
| 17:14.03 | fowler | hent : Should I just create a level 99 init script with mount -a in it? I'd rather do things "The Debian Way" if possible so I don't run into anything funny. The kernel is a Debian stock kernel |
| 17:14.04 | antgel | sonyman: do you need to build a kernel? |
| 17:14.10 | sonyman | antgel, I need to build madwifi |
| 17:14.14 | antgel | ultraviolet16: no. kde is a metapackage |
| 17:14.21 | allan | anyone hel;p a new debian |
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| 17:14.40 | ultraviolet16 | well thanks all for help. brb |
| 17:14.50 | allan | i need to mount a digi cam |
| 17:14.51 | hent | fowler , well i wish someone else would pitch in on this one, cause im not very familiar with all this. Just saw you wern't getting an anwser :P |
| 17:15.09 | antgel | tarzeau, SimonRaven: what does it mean i get things like "you hear ... in the distance"? |
| 17:15.18 | fowler | deb ftp://debian.marlow.dk/ sid madwifi for madwifi debs BTW |
| 17:15.22 | tarzeau | antgel: something made a noise? |
| 17:15.30 | SimonRaven | ^^ |
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| 17:15.33 | antgel | tarzeau: why should i care? |
| 17:15.35 | fowler | hent, thanks for the input :) |
| 17:15.40 | tarzeau | antgel: well it could be something dangerous |
| 17:15.50 | allan | is anyone receiving what in sending? 411 |
| 17:16.00 | fowler | I think I'll just create the initscript. Seems messy thouh. I'd rather do things more dogmatically if possible |
| 17:16.01 | ac3 | noone here has to install many many debian servers? How do you do it? can i just dd the image to the new server? Wil this work if the hardware is different? |
| 17:16.16 | antgel | tarzeau: but i can never see anything dangerous about. ah nuts, i'm going home now, gonna play it on the tube. :) |
| 17:16.24 | antgel | !tell ac3 about fai |
| 17:16.40 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, ok.. I figured out that I can use the play command but I can't play in rhytmbox or such |
| 17:16.48 | ac3 | antgel: thx |
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| 17:17.06 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: you told me that your alsamixer didn't work. i'm going home now, sorry |
| 17:17.18 | tarzeau | heh, antgel |
| 17:17.34 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: simple rule you can eat everything that's fresh, zombis are dead already |
| 17:17.35 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, I had to go in and set the perms myself. but it works. |
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| 17:18.00 | bouh | coutal: still here ? |
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| 17:18.36 | bouh | to change the vga selection the following option must be activated in the kernel |
| 17:18.42 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: ok. makes sense |
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| 17:19.01 | antgel | kuhwalllskee: if you have to set the perms, it's a bug or you did something wrong |
| 17:19.10 | allan | anyone help. please |
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| 17:19.23 | kuhwalllskee | antgel, heh.. well it's definetly possible I did something wrong. |
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| 17:19.47 | ultraviolet16 | hmm ok it worked. |
| 17:19.51 | bouh | device driver --> graphics support --> console displays driver support --> video mode selection support |
| 17:20.11 | kuhwalllskee | antgel: could it be that esd isn't running? |
| 17:20.28 | allan | is anyone here a staffer? |
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| 17:20.33 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: what did you offer i missed it |
| 17:20.41 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: the lichen corspe |
| 17:20.46 | SimonRaven | ok |
| 17:21.00 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: if you sacrify enough items you get good special weapons (powerful!) |
| 17:21.06 | allan | <-- needs a quick bit of help mounting a digicam |
| 17:21.10 | SimonRaven | nice |
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| 17:21.44 | allan | anybody |
| 17:21.51 | allan | recieving |
| 17:21.52 | jbmigel_ | SimonRaven try to find a wand of create monster and hang out at altar |
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| 17:22.05 | bouh | allan: just ask ur question |
| 17:22.27 | bouh | for a digicam |
| 17:22.36 | allan | i have an aiptek 3megacam i try and mount it and its laughin at me |
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| 17:23.04 | gnd | when I try to install a new kernel with dpkg -i new_kernel_image I get this error: |
| 17:23.05 | bouh | did you try / apt-get install gphoto2 libghoto2 gtkam gthumb |
| 17:23.11 | tictac | hmm. anyone having issues with cdrecord in sid? |
| 17:23.13 | gnd | dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14.3 (--install): |
| 17:23.14 | gnd | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:23.19 | SimonRaven | jbmigel_: ok |
| 17:23.32 | bouh | allan: I assume it's a usb cam |
| 17:23.46 | gnd | any idea what's wrong? |
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| 17:23.56 | allan | gtkam says it cant detect it and yea its on usb0 |
| 17:24.13 | bouh | so I assume you installed gphoto2 |
| 17:24.24 | allan | debian tells me it cant mount because it cant identify file system |
| 17:24.30 | bouh | ? |
| 17:24.34 | allan | yea but i cant find it |
| 17:24.42 | bouh | you actually do not "mount" a camera |
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| 17:24.54 | bouh | you just plug it |
| 17:25.01 | vinay | how do i read cd-text on the command line? |
| 17:25.12 | allan | plug it? |
| 17:25.15 | bouh | and the gphoto2 interface |
| 17:25.20 | linux_manju | allan is it an USB device? |
| 17:25.22 | sonyman | where can I get kernel-source-2.6.12-1? |
| 17:25.29 | bouh | reads the detected usb port |
| 17:25.33 | allan | yea its on usb0 |
| 17:25.35 | linux_manju | sonyman kernel.org |
| 17:25.37 | linux_manju | :) |
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| 17:25.50 | sonyman | linux_manju, is that good enough? I need it for debian etc |
| 17:25.52 | sonyman | etch* |
| 17:25.56 | bouh | you need to be sure that 1. when you plug the cam |
| 17:26.08 | linux_manju | allan most of the time its vfat it works for me |
| 17:26.10 | bouh | the system detect it |
| 17:26.11 | allan | plug it ? |
| 17:26.26 | bouh | sorry plug = connect the usb cable |
| 17:26.29 | allan | iv been on linux for 4 days |
| 17:26.29 | bouh | to your comp |
| 17:26.46 | bouh | haha: good you're on the right tracks |
| 17:26.47 | allan | i just got rid of the windows virus |
| 17:27.06 | bouh | when you connect your camera |
| 17:27.16 | bouh | type dmesg |
| 17:27.17 | allan | yea i got everything accept this bleeding camera workin |
| 17:27.21 | tarzeau | SimonRaven, antgel seen that? almost starved... |
| 17:27.25 | tarzeau | but now in shop town |
| 17:27.28 | bouh | you should see something telling your camera is detected |
| 17:27.31 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 17:27.43 | linux_manju | allan well u might try it wih a windows PC and right cilck on the drive and see what kindda fs it says.. that might make matter simpler |
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| 17:27.44 | allan | type that in consol |
| 17:28.03 | bouh | yes |
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| 17:28.48 | allan | right its about nine pages long |
| 17:28.59 | bouh | don't worry |
| 17:29.08 | bouh | it should be rite at the end |
| 17:29.12 | sonyman | Can someone please help me? I need kernel-source-2.6.12-1 for Debian etch in order to compile madwifi |
| 17:29.19 | allan | sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled |
| 17:29.19 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.20 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:29.20 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:29.45 | bouh | arf ... he didn't know obviously :) |
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| 17:29.57 | bouh | you must past on #flood |
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| 17:30.12 | bouh | allan: you must paste on #flood |
| 17:30.13 | allan | ? |
| 17:30.31 | Lilldude10 | does some outer package use opera or netscape on debian |
| 17:30.35 | Lilldude10 | cant insatll it |
| 17:30.39 | paulswm | allan: re pasting, look at /topic |
| 17:30.43 | allan | is that an irc thing |
| 17:30.49 | SimonRaven | lucky |
| 17:30.52 | bouh | yes |
| 17:30.57 | bouh | that's a channel |
| 17:31.01 | allan | #flood sda: test WP failed, assume Write Enabled |
| 17:31.01 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.01 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:31.02 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:31.12 | bouh | arf ... he really didn't know |
| 17:31.23 | paulswm | I have to say it, I'm afraid, "twat" is appropriate here |
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| 17:31.48 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: hhaa sucks when you got the watchmen behind you in shoptown |
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| 17:31.58 | bouh | allan: before we go on, type /join #flood |
| 17:32.02 | SimonRaven | yeh really |
| 17:32.05 | allan | have done |
| 17:32.08 | bouh | you can paste in this channel |
| 17:32.11 | allan | pasted again |
| 17:32.11 | bouh | good |
| 17:32.17 | allan | in flood |
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| 17:32.33 | point | hi |
| 17:32.39 | sonyman | Can someone please help me? I need kernel-source-2.6.12-1 for Debian etch in order to compile madwifi |
| 17:32.44 | point | i'm on "bitchx" |
| 17:32.57 | blondie | point: you meant to type "irssi" |
| 17:32.58 | point | i'm not sure how to install X on debian |
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| 17:33.22 | gnd | sonyman: www.kernel.org has all kernel sources you need |
| 17:33.27 | bouh | allan: that's really what you get when you connect your usb camera, ..\ |
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| 17:33.44 | sonyman | gnd, that will work well enough? I wasn't sure if the debian kernel had all sorts of debian patches |
| 17:33.50 | bouh | if you repeat the operation many time, you should see the lines repeating ... |
| 17:33.53 | fbi | sonyman: it's linux-source-* |
| 17:33.58 | bouh | is that correct |
| 17:33.59 | bouh | ? |
| 17:34.11 | ultraviolet16 | can anyone help me out in running some commands whenever I log in to my computer? |
| 17:34.22 | ultraviolet16 | i think it has to do with xinit, but not sure |
| 17:34.28 | sonyman | fbi, oh if only someone could have told me that to begin with :D it popped right up in APT |
| 17:34.32 | mjk64 | I seem to remember that someone said that hotplug is or will be outdated soon - anyone got more information about that? dpkg's hotplug factoid couldn't tell me about that. |
| 17:34.34 | ultraviolet16 | like making it automatically |
| 17:34.37 | nixie | ultraviolet16: ~/.xinitrc |
| 17:34.47 | linux_manju | nelsmar .bashrc |
| 17:34.51 | point | i'm sure someone here can help me install X and KDE...what packages do i need to install? |
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| 17:35.05 | ultraviolet16 | point: apt-get install kde |
| 17:35.14 | allan | hello |
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| 17:35.19 | _rene_ | point: ... and x-window-system-core |
| 17:35.25 | allan | il get used to it |
| 17:35.31 | bouh | :) |
| 17:35.34 | Yarou | hmmmmm |
| 17:35.34 | point | thanks |
| 17:35.34 | mjk64 | _rene_: Doesn't kde depend on x-window-system(-core)? |
| 17:35.36 | fbi | !tell point about setup x |
| 17:35.42 | allan | so what should i try now |
| 17:36.01 | bouh | the dmesg output show something about an scsi drive |
| 17:36.01 | ultraviolet16 | nixie: thanks |
| 17:36.02 | Yarou | xxxxx |
| 17:36.09 | fbi | !cure |
| 17:36.09 | dpkg | i guess cure is a Cure for a hangover requires said drunk user to ingest large volumes of liquid (of non-alcoholic preference) before passing out. This keeps the body and brain hydrated throughout the night causing little to no hangover the following day |
| 17:36.09 | tarzeau | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:36.11 | bouh | I do not think it is related to your camera |
| 17:36.13 | tarzeau | awww crap and i didn't wear it |
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| 17:36.25 | bouh | ok I will tell you the prob |
| 17:36.42 | Yarou | lol BitchX |
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| 17:36.46 | bouh | 1. you must make sure the usb interface is working |
| 17:37.06 | Yarou | i still can't get eggdrop to compile -_- |
| 17:37.11 | allan | its in flood |
| 17:37.12 | Yarou | i might as well go with muh |
| 17:37.19 | bouh | 1. the modules usb_core, uhci_usb, ehci_usb must be loaded |
| 17:37.31 | allan | ok how do i do that |
| 17:37.38 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: :/ |
| 17:37.45 | bouh | lsmod |
| 17:37.47 | allan | iv been usin windoze too long |
| 17:37.56 | bouh | can tell you which modules are loaded |
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| 17:38.10 | allan | ? |
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| 17:38.19 | gnd | I can't get my new kernel package to install |
| 17:38.25 | gnd | I get this error: |
| 17:38.31 | gnd | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128 |
| 17:38.45 | gnd | kernel image made with make-kpkg |
| 17:38.46 | bouh | on the command line |
| 17:38.51 | allan | bouh: type what |
| 17:38.52 | bouh | in the terminal/console |
| 17:38.57 | bouh | lsmod |
| 17:39.10 | bouh | ls(list)mod(modules) |
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| 17:40.01 | zulu | hi guy, I crashed my partition table using a !@#$sdgOS and could with gpart recover primary partitions, the pb is that my ext2 data filesystem was on extended partition. Is there a way to tell e2fsck -b 'I don't know' /dev/sda7 ??? |
| 17:40.01 | dpkg | Many greetings, guy, I crashed my partition table using a !@#$sdgOS and could with gpart recover primary partitions, the pb is that my ext2 data filesystem was on extended partition. Is there a way to tell e2fsck -b 'I don't know' /dev/sda7, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 17:40.07 | smhar | I have 2 questions today.. the first is a strange one.. I am trying to apt-get upgrade my debian testing sysetm and it hangs in a certain package I even put the hd in another computer and the same happened!! any ideas |
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| 17:40.12 | allan | usb_core |
| 17:40.15 | allan | is runnin |
| 17:40.30 | predius_ | smhar: what package? |
| 17:40.43 | bouh | ok do you see something like ehci... or uhci... |
| 17:40.47 | nixie | zulu: as i said before, if you cannot restore your partitions exactly as they were, you better dont do anything with it and get yourself data recovery software. |
| 17:40.53 | allan | ehci-hcd 14764 0 (unused) |
| 17:40.53 | allan | usb-ohci |
| 17:41.02 | smhar | it is fp-something.. free pascal |
| 17:41.05 | KomiaPoika | lmao@ dpkg |
| 17:41.08 | sonyman | Ok, I'm trying to compile madwifi and after typing "fakeroot make-kpkg --append-to-version "-flavour" --revision 2.x.y-z --added-modules madwifi modules_image" I get an error stating "The revision 2.x.y-z fails policy compliance, aborting" |
| 17:41.10 | allan | and thats it |
| 17:41.15 | bouh | ok good |
| 17:41.17 | fbi | wtf just triggered dpkg? |
| 17:41.21 | Oryn | antgel: I sorted it |
| 17:41.25 | zulu | data recovery software?? like what for ext2 filesys? |
| 17:41.31 | KomiaPoika | hi guy, dpkg likes to go out to helskinkiin shemale clubs with inuriksi somaleiden |
| 17:41.43 | bbrazil | fbi: it doesn't need the ! anymore |
| 17:41.46 | Daveman | o_O |
| 17:41.51 | fbi | ah. |
| 17:42.00 | bouh | disconnect your cam. now when you connect your cam, and then when you type dmesg, smth should appear at the end |
| 17:42.05 | wang | good morning Mr. Fed |
| 17:42.07 | fbi | so basically dpkg is going to fill up with 6000 more useless factoids that make no sense. |
| 17:42.17 | predius_ | yeah |
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| 17:42.23 | bbrazil | fbi: hadn't considered that, will need testing |
| 17:42.35 | zulu | nixie, do you know any recovery software? |
| 17:42.42 | zulu | that work for ext2-3 |
| 17:42.42 | zulu | ? |
| 17:42.52 | nixie | zulu: i know of ontrack software. dont know if they do ext2. try google. |
| 17:42.54 | bbrazil | fbi: actually you just tested it there (sentance with 'is') |
| 17:43.01 | bouh | allan: if nothing appear, then your cam is not detected... |
| 17:43.28 | allan | flood |
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| 17:43.33 | zulu | ok thx |
| 17:43.35 | bouh | ok |
| 17:43.43 | Yarou | anyone know any good ring3 debuggers ? |
| 17:43.47 | sonyman | nvm im an idiot |
| 17:43.56 | bbrazil | Yarou: do you mean lavery 3? |
| 17:44.00 | bbrazil | *layer |
| 17:44.11 | Yarou | yeah |
| 17:44.19 | bbrazil | Yarou: tcpcump, tethereal |
| 17:44.22 | KomiaPoika | hi guy, dpkg likes to go out to helskinkiin shemale clubs with inuriksi somaleiden ??? |
| 17:44.22 | dpkg | Many greetings, guy, dpkg likes to go out to helskinkiin shemale clubs with inuriksi somaleiden, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 17:44.27 | allan | is that right |
| 17:44.36 | KomiaPoika | lawl |
| 17:44.36 | predius_ | Yarou: tcpdump |
| 17:44.40 | bouh | allan: ok you camera is seen by the system |
| 17:44.48 | blondie | dpkg: stutup |
| 17:44.51 | valdyn | hi |
| 17:44.51 | blondie | ffs |
| 17:44.52 | allan | now what |
| 17:44.53 | blondie | sadsdsa=dsapodks |
| 17:44.53 | nixie | dkpg ??? |
| 17:45.13 | predius_ | come on guys, stop spamming dpkg |
| 17:45.24 | bouh | allan: you told me you installed gphoto2 right ? |
| 17:45.34 | nixie | well why's it responding. somethings messed up with it:) |
| 17:45.35 | sonyman | If I just hold down the enter key through all the prompts when recompiling the kernel, that will build one identical to the one it came with, correct? |
| 17:45.47 | bouh | allan: if not, type apt-get install gphoto2 |
| 17:45.54 | allan | yea but debains menu system i like a phone book |
| 17:46.01 | fbi | !debain |
| 17:46.01 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 17:46.09 | predius_ | Heh. |
| 17:46.15 | KomiaPoika | hi guy, nixie would like to pick 3 random users from this channel and have orgies with them. please don't tell koshnaranek , hes too straighgt for this kind of shit ... KomiaPoika too ??? |
| 17:46.15 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai guy, nixie would like to pick 3 random users from this channel and have orgies with them. please don't tell koshnaranek , hes too straighgt for this kind of shit ... KomiaPoika too! |
| 17:46.28 | fbi | KomiaPoika: can you stop that? |
| 17:46.31 | nixie | lol |
| 17:46.35 | allan | dpkg sorry to offend debian |
| 17:46.40 | KomiaPoika | fbi: when i can stop laughing, yes. |
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| 17:47.01 | bouh | allan: I did not quite get your last sentence |
| 17:47.02 | fbi | KomiaPoika: i suggest you stop when you start pissing users off, not when you feel like it. |
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| 17:47.14 | bouh | if you did installed gphoto2 |
| 17:47.21 | allan | yea |
| 17:47.23 | KomiaPoika | fbi: or else what, you gonna arrest me? |
| 17:47.30 | allan | synaptic did it |
| 17:47.32 | bouh | then you have to add your self in the group "camera" |
| 17:47.34 | blondie | KomiaPoika: I will punish you |
| 17:47.39 | nixie | KomiaPoika: i might. |
| 17:47.46 | allan | how |
| 17:47.56 | KomiaPoika | oh yes punish me badly it makes me so hot |
| 17:48.01 | blondie | KomiaPoika: good good |
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| 17:48.04 | fbi | KomiaPoika: heh, do whatever the fuck you want. not my problem when you get banned for bot abuse. |
| 17:48.06 | KomiaPoika | lol |
| 17:48.06 | blondie | oh dear |
| 17:48.22 | bouh | adduser <your user name> camera |
| 17:48.54 | bouh | but first a last check |
| 17:49.07 | bouh | can you type gphoto2 --auto-detect |
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| 17:49.18 | bouh | and tell me what appears ? |
| 17:49.56 | allan | flood |
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| 17:50.38 | allan | thats it |
| 17:50.46 | bouh | so basically gphoto2 do not detect your camera |
| 17:51.12 | allan | nor does gtkam |
| 17:51.20 | Yarou | LOL |
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| 17:51.53 | allan | what now dude |
| 17:51.55 | bouh | do you see ehci_hcd when you do lsmod (this is the module that manage usb2) |
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| 17:52.14 | allan | il check |
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| 17:52.42 | loick_ | anyone know how to check the connectivity to a server on a UDP port? |
| 17:52.58 | bouh | ping ? |
| 17:53.07 | allan | yea |
| 17:53.10 | loick_ | on a special port :) |
| 17:53.11 | allan | its there |
| 17:53.15 | nixie | loick_: netcat |
| 17:53.21 | bouh | nmap |
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| 17:53.29 | bouh | allan: ok |
| 17:53.38 | allan | nmap |
| 17:53.38 | allan | ? |
| 17:53.41 | loick_ | i would like to telnet to a UDP server to check the connectivity |
| 17:53.51 | loick_ | but telnet work only with tcp |
| 17:53.52 | nixie | loick_: netcat. |
| 17:53.55 | _steven_ | quick question: I missed the step during install to install as a desktop environment, whats the apt-get command to manually do so, including gnome and kde? |
| 17:53.58 | loick_ | ok checking netcat |
| 17:54.05 | bouh | allan: then, I feel a bit disoriented |
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| 17:54.30 | nixie | loick_: but remember that UDP is stateless. you can't 'see' a connection. |
| 17:54.39 | valdyn | _steven_: apt-get install x-window-system-core kde gnome |
| 17:54.39 | allan | il swap camera's its the same cam but dif unit |
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| 17:54.51 | allan | would that help? |
| 17:54.53 | loick_ | nixie: ack |
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| 17:54.59 | valdyn | _steven_: or just run 'tasksel' |
| 17:55.13 | bouh | allan: humm not |
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| 17:55.34 | allan | humm not? |
| 17:55.56 | bouh | allan: when you connect a usb perif |
| 17:56.10 | _steven_ | valdyn: ahh, ty |
| 17:56.19 | bouh | what linux does is to populate the /proc/bus/usb interface |
| 17:56.40 | loick_ | nixie: the ntp server on my dedicated doesn t synchronize well, wondering if my ISP forbid the connection on this port like it does for the TCP 25 |
| 17:56.50 | allan | and in windoze that would mean. |
| 17:56.53 | allan | ? |
| 17:57.12 | bouh | allan: type ls -R /proc/bus/usb with and without your cam connected |
| 17:57.34 | nixie | loick_: are you running ntpd? does ntpdate work? |
| 17:57.34 | allan | ok with first |
| 17:57.35 | loick_ | any idea how could i check that? |
| 17:57.55 | bouh | if you don't see a difference, then your cam is actually not seen by the system... |
| 17:58.04 | loick_ | ntpdate seems to work |
| 17:58.19 | loick_ | but when i do ntpq -p i have got funky results |
| 17:58.24 | allan | flood |
| 17:58.32 | nixie | loick_: just crontab ntpdate every 30 minutes? |
| 17:58.34 | loick_ | all the offset to 0 and the jitter to 4000 wich is bad |
| 17:58.50 | gnd | is there a document where it says what this error is: dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.14.3 (--install): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 128 |
| 17:59.17 | allan | ok |
| 17:59.21 | allan | so what now |
| 17:59.22 | loick_ | how could ntpdate work and ntpd not work? |
| 17:59.49 | valdyn | gnd: there probably was an error above that |
| 18:00.00 | bouh | look at flood |
| 18:00.12 | gnd | valdyn: not really, want me to paste everything in #flood? |
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| 18:00.17 | nixie | loick_: good question :) im not sure which protocol is used. ntp is on tcp too. |
| 18:00.19 | valdyn | gnd: yea |
| 18:00.29 | allan | flood |
| 18:00.40 | bwlang | need a simple mail relay for nagios system... should i use nullmailer or ssmtp? (or something else?) |
| 18:00.40 | bouh | can you give me the model of your cam again |
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| 18:01.14 | loick_ | nixie: which port for tcp? |
| 18:01.26 | loick_ | nixie: because 123 tcp is used for something else, auth i think |
| 18:01.28 | valdyn | gnd: dpkg -l yaird |
| 18:01.40 | nixie | loick_: grep ntp /etc/services :) |
| 18:01.55 | allan | pocket cam 3 mega |
| 18:02.00 | gnd | No packages found matching yaird. |
| 18:02.00 | allan | aiptek |
| 18:02.12 | allan | system refers to it as 3megacam |
| 18:02.27 | loick_ | nixie: ha no you re right, and i am wrong :) |
| 18:02.30 | valdyn | gnd: does that kernel include and initrd? |
| 18:02.35 | bouh | ok let me check |
| 18:02.39 | valdyn | gnd: does that kernel include an initrd? |
| 18:02.39 | KomiaPoika | i'm doing apt-get install xfonts-*, lol |
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| 18:03.02 | gnd | valdyn: hmm, not sure, how do I check that? |
| 18:03.09 | bouh | allan: your cam is quite new ? |
| 18:03.12 | allan | a forum i was in earlier said i might need to recompile the kernel, now that sounds very drastic |
| 18:03.15 | snoopy | anyone know of a bittorent client for debian |
| 18:03.15 | valdyn | gnd: if you didnt specify one then it does not |
| 18:03.17 | bouh | because |
| 18:03.21 | fbi | snoopy: bittornado |
| 18:03.22 | KomiaPoika | after apt-get install xfonts-* do i need to edit xorg.conf to give new fonts dirs names? |
| 18:03.25 | bouh | no i don't think so |
| 18:03.25 | Ronin | snoopy: bittorrent |
| 18:03.35 | bouh | actually the status for your cam |
| 18:03.46 | snoopy | aight thanks |
| 18:03.47 | bouh | on the gphoto2 project page is: TESTING |
| 18:03.51 | valdyn | gnd: run dpkg --purge linux-image-2.6.14.3 |
| 18:03.54 | bouh | http://www.gphoto.org/proj/libgphoto2/support.php |
| 18:04.01 | fbi | snoopy: you want bittornado, not bittorrent. |
| 18:04.14 | bouh | which is why I think |
| 18:04.29 | bouh | that may be you might want to try |
| 18:04.35 | com-0 | i'm following the webpage http://www.falkotimme.com/howtos/debian_kernel2.6_compile/index.php, for compiling my kernel. but make-kpkg clean is not available? |
| 18:04.59 | bouh | getting the latest possible version on gphoto2 and libgphoto2 |
| 18:05.03 | valdyn | gnd: after that: ls -ld /lib/modules/* |
| 18:05.11 | bouh | you can register on their mailing list for hints |
| 18:05.13 | snoopy | yeah i kinda guessed that thanks yall |
| 18:05.23 | allan | well i got them from synaptec |
| 18:05.33 | gnd | valdyn: no modules for 2.6.12 |
| 18:05.35 | gnd | err |
| 18:05.36 | gnd | 14 |
| 18:05.46 | bouh | they are friendly and will help you better than me |
| 18:06.02 | bouh | www.gphoto.org |
| 18:06.07 | valdyn | gnd: nothing for that kernel in /lib/modules/ ? |
| 18:06.11 | gnd | no |
| 18:06.13 | bouh | I must go sadly |
| 18:06.14 | allan | you have been a hell of a help cause im too used to windows |
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| 18:06.23 | valdyn | gnd: ok, same check in /boot/ |
| 18:06.31 | bouh | ^^ |
| 18:06.37 | allan | thanks for your help |
| 18:06.42 | bouh | good luck, keep up with the pinguin |
| 18:06.49 | gnd | valdyn: same, nothing about 2.6.14 |
| 18:06.51 | bouh | bye |
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| 18:06.57 | allan | i feel like i know nothing |
| 18:07.00 | allan | lol |
| 18:07.01 | allan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:07.05 | valdyn | gnd: ok, cat /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 18:07.09 | allan | have a nice day |
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| 18:07.14 | houdini | hi there! |
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| 18:07.31 | gnd | valdyn: cat: /etc/kernel-img.conf: No such file or directory |
| 18:07.41 | houdini | i'm searching for a webradio client for console... any idea? |
| 18:07.52 | valdyn | gnd: how's that possible? |
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| 18:08.07 | fbi | houdini: mplayer? mpg321? both will play an internet stream. |
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| 18:08.15 | gnd | valdyn: I don't know, you tell me :) |
| 18:08.26 | houdini | cool thank you @fbi |
| 18:08.47 | gnd | valdyn: last kernel I compiled and installed was 2.6.12 and it all went without any problems |
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| 18:09.08 | phrontist | how can I mount a partition at bootup? |
| 18:09.08 | valdyn | gnd: ok, which bootloader are you using? |
| 18:09.12 | gnd | lilo |
| 18:09.14 | fbi | phrontist: man fstab |
| 18:09.19 | predius_ | phrontist: man fstab |
| 18:09.23 | predius_ | heh |
| 18:09.36 | fbi | phrontist: man fstab; man mount |
| 18:10.10 | valdyn | !find etc/kernel-img.conf sarge |
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| 18:10.33 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'etc/kernel-img.conf' (1): (/usr/share/doc/fai/examples/simple/files/etc/kernel-img.conf/DEFAULT) in admin/fai. |
| 18:10.43 | blondie | hi dpkg |
| 18:10.46 | fbi | valdyn: when you did that, did dpkg msg you about updating files? |
| 18:11.05 | valdyn | fbi: 19:10 <dpkg> Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 18:11.18 | allan | dpkg |
| 18:11.30 | allan | how do i compile a makefil? |
| 18:11.34 | allan | e |
| 18:11.48 | fbi | hi |
| 18:11.49 | bbrazil | allan: you don't, they're interepreted |
| 18:11.50 | fbi | !hi |
| 18:11.50 | dpkg | hello, fbi |
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| 18:12.08 | fbi | dpkg hi |
| 18:12.08 | dpkg | hey, fbi |
| 18:12.10 | valdyn | gnd: apt-get update && apt-get -s upgrade |
| 18:12.11 | allan | debaaaain |
| 18:12.21 | allan | got your attention? |
| 18:12.32 | gnd | valdyn: I did a apt-get dist-upgrade today |
| 18:12.32 | valdyn | gnd: what is there that apt-get would upgrade ( if it could ) |
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| 18:12.34 | predius_ | allan: forgot the ! |
| 18:12.49 | allan | the ? |
| 18:12.54 | allan | i |
| 18:12.57 | predius_ | the ! |
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| 18:13.17 | allan | i hate this font |
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| 18:13.21 | gnd | valdyn: nothing to upgrade, gdk-imlibl has been kepo back |
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| 18:14.12 | ultraviolet16 | hey, i'm trying to configure .xsession and I can pick my windows manager allright, but then I can't tell it to run commands for me.. say "irssi &" doesn't work |
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| 18:14.32 | ultraviolet16 | any ideas as to why? |
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| 18:15.01 | fbi | ultraviolet16: you can't just start a curses app like that, you would have to open the terminal of your choice first |
| 18:15.09 | valdyn | gnd: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341920 |
| 18:15.33 | allan | ANYONE: i have downloaded a tar abll and its got a load of makefile.so .in files it it what do i do to get a dll from it |
| 18:15.45 | tictac | hmm. |
| 18:15.47 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: ok thanks.. say then gaim & |
| 18:15.51 | allan | ball |
| 18:15.51 | gnd | hmm |
| 18:15.52 | predius_ | ultraviolet16: xterm -e irssi |
| 18:15.54 | fbi | ultraviolet16: that should work |
| 18:15.56 | bbrazil | allan: read the INSTALL and README files |
| 18:16.01 | valdyn | gnd: i would try using an older kernel-package, maybe you still ahve one in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 18:16.11 | bwlang | allan: you need to learn about autoconf... |
| 18:16.16 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: yeah the problem is that "gaim &" doesn't work either.. |
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| 18:16.24 | ultraviolet16 | not sure why |
| 18:16.26 | allan | whats autoconf? |
| 18:16.31 | allan | i seek info |
| 18:16.32 | bbrazil | ultraviolet16: does xclock work? |
| 18:16.32 | sbk | oh my, autoconf :) |
| 18:16.41 | ultraviolet16 | bbrazil: i'll try, brb |
| 18:16.47 | bwlang | allan: use google. |
| 18:16.53 | allan | im a windows guru/linux looser |
| 18:16.56 | allan | noob |
| 18:16.59 | gnd | valdyn: looks like I have three: kernel-package_10.011_all.deb kernel-package_10.012_all.deb kernel-package_9.008.4_all.deb |
| 18:17.12 | bwlang | allan: google is available on windows ( i think ;) |
| 18:17.27 | fbi | ultraviolet16: do you have "gaim &" above "exec windowmanager" ? |
| 18:17.32 | tictac | im getting a broken pipe error when trying to install a new kernel image |
| 18:17.35 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: no i don't |
| 18:17.40 | ultraviolet16 | and this is another problem i'm having.. |
| 18:17.43 | allan | dude 4 days with a working unix system |
| 18:17.55 | ultraviolet16 | i just told fluxbox to exit and it does.. except my program remain running |
| 18:18.04 | ultraviolet16 | like aterm I'm running right now |
| 18:18.12 | valdyn | gnd: dpkg -i kernel-package_10.011_all.deb i guess |
| 18:18.18 | bwlang | allan: you're too new to be compiling software... just use debs |
| 18:18.26 | fbi | ultraviolet16: ah. so you need a line in ~/.xsession to kill gaim before you start it. |
| 18:18.30 | allan | i been on windows since 3.11 was released to add network support |
| 18:18.31 | ultraviolet16 | after I close this I will log off though. I removed gaim and added xclock to see what happens btw |
| 18:18.38 | valdyn | gnd: and reacreate your kernel deb, then try again, tedious, but uh, this seems new anyway |
| 18:18.48 | fbi | ultraviolet16: i have to do that with jackd or else i end up with multiple instances of jackd running |
| 18:18.51 | gnd | ok |
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| 18:19.12 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: well I thought it could be that, but I ps aux|grep gaim and nothing came up.. |
| 18:19.17 | gnd | valdyn: you mean do the "fakeroot make-kpkg ..." again? |
| 18:19.25 | ultraviolet16 | first things first, let me try this xclock business.. brb |
| 18:19.28 | valdyn | gnd: yea |
| 18:19.46 | gnd | valdyn: ok, thanks, will do that now |
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| 18:19.52 | valdyn | gnd: mind, im just seeing this bug report, i have no idea what exactly the error is |
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| 18:20.28 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: ok that was a no go |
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| 18:20.44 | ultraviolet16 | bbrazil: I tried xclock & and nothing happend |
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| 18:21.29 | allan | right the readme files asume i have a phd |
| 18:21.41 | fbi | ultraviolet16: /j #flood and paste me your ~/.xsession |
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| 18:21.44 | allan | its very do it yer self |
| 18:21.56 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: ok |
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| 18:22.15 | allan | just give me the command to compile please anybody |
| 18:22.19 | smhar | hi again |
| 18:22.33 | smhar | I think I have to get another computer soon :-) |
| 18:22.37 | ultraviolet16 | fbi: ok it's there |
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| 18:24.05 | runedude3 | hey everyone.. im trying to load a tunnel, and i get TunInit: Try "modprobe tun", however, i did run that command, lsmod shows "tun" loaded.. so whats wrong? :\ |
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| 18:25.19 | tictac | im trying to figure why i cant get a linux-image to install (created with make-kpkg) |
| 18:25.43 | smhar | ok.. this one is my wife's computer and I am trying to dual boot it with debian testing.. installation is compete from the Testig cd for a net-install but the setup didn't recognize my network card |
| 18:25.53 | tictac | it acts like its setting up the package, then displays this.. |
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| 18:25.59 | tictac | dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.13-tictac-5150 (--install): |
| 18:25.59 | tictac | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.09 | smhar | it is using a e100 driver and I think it should use eepro100 |
| 18:26.23 | blondie | tictac: why are you trying to install yourself? |
| 18:27.01 | tictac | heh. a kernel image. |
| 18:27.17 | blondie | are you one of those sweets? |
| 18:27.39 | smhar | I tried modprobe -r e100 then modprobe eepro100 |
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| 18:28.32 | gnd | tictac: I keep getting exactly the same error |
| 18:29.34 | gnd | http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341920 |
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| 18:30.25 | gnd | tictac: what version of kernel-package do you have? |
| 18:30.47 | tictac | 10.012 |
| 18:30.49 | smhar | I changed the /etc/modutils/aliases file and added: alias eth0 eepro100 and then /sbin/update-modutils |
| 18:31.14 | m1ll3` | hey tictac: i got the same error |
| 18:31.16 | smhar | this is as far as I got from google but still it doesn't work.. it still seeks e100 |
| 18:31.21 | m1ll3` | just wanted to install my kernel |
| 18:31.25 | tictac | hmm. |
| 18:31.33 | gnd | tictac: valdyn suggested I downgrade kernel-package and I'm trying again with 10.011 |
| 18:32.09 | allan | ok i am really stuck |
| 18:32.44 | allan | what do i do with a makefile |
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| 18:33.13 | allan | i have tried google the tech writers are useless |
| 18:33.18 | runedude3 | can anyone help me? im trying to load a tunnel, and i get TunInit: Try "modprobe tun", however, i did run that command, lsmod shows "tun" loaded.. how come it wont load? |
| 18:33.54 | allan | hey runedude people in here dont help people the debian site lies |
| 18:34.02 | allan | 1 dude earlier was cool |
| 18:34.16 | gnd | valdyn: same error with kernel-package_10.011_all.deb |
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| 18:34.30 | allan | they just asume everyone has been on unix for years |
| 18:34.30 | m1ll3` | damn |
| 18:34.38 | com-0 | where do i get make-kpkg? |
| 18:34.42 | tictac | same with 10.010 |
| 18:34.52 | m1ll3` | gnd: no known solutions yet? |
| 18:34.58 | gnd | no idea |
| 18:35.10 | allan | com-0 what are you tryin to do?> |
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| 18:35.23 | gnd | I'll try with kernel-package_9.008.4_all.deb |
| 18:36.11 | allan | <gnd> : how do compile a makefile.* |
| 18:36.19 | com-0 | compiling kernel for debian |
| 18:36.39 | allan | i wanna compile a library for gphoto |
| 18:36.41 | m1ll3` | gnd: you have any idea how i can at least run apt-get - now it keeps complaining that blabla needs to be reinstalled but canÄT find archive for it |
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| 18:36.54 | xored | how to get the OpenGL working on a Radeo9800pro. I have installed the fglx driver from the reps. What do i need to switch the xserver on ? |
| 18:37.01 | tictac | hmm. |
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| 18:38.56 | tictac | kernel-package 10.0.10 removes debian, which bug report for 10.0.12 says doesnt. |
| 18:39.03 | tictac | debian/ |
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| 18:39.41 | goron | I just read this: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-java-faq/ch5.html#s-license-concerns, but how can there be free Java implemented then? They clearly are implementing the Sun spec. |
| 18:39.42 | m1ll3` | shit - i need a running pc till tomorrow :/ |
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| 18:40.57 | takatumi | xored: it's explained in gory detail here, read it? http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 18:44.33 | xored | takatumi: thank you |
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| 18:45.56 | goron | How do I connect via samba to my windows machine such that I don't get access denied when I want to write a file? |
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| 18:47.02 | blondie | man smbmount for uid option |
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| 18:48.15 | goron | blondie: smbmount only supports files <2GB, IIRC. |
| 18:48.40 | blondie | use smbclient then |
| 18:48.52 | goron | smbclient can handle it, but I don't understand why I can browse everything, but can't save anything. |
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| 18:49.07 | goron | In other words, I need to authenticate in some way. |
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| 18:49.42 | goron | Windows username as -U and windows password should work, right? Does case matter? |
| 18:49.42 | dpkg | This is #Debian, username as -U and windows password should work, right? Does case matter, not #bungholes! |
| 18:49.47 | bwlang | anybody know how to explain this: uptime says load average: 5.09, 4.60, 3.96 but vmstat says |
| 18:49.48 | bwlang | 0 0 2496 42940 41248 139380 0 0 0 0 1013 18 0 0 100 0 |
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| 18:49.55 | smhar | I need some help setting my network card |
| 18:50.12 | bwlang | vmstat says cpu is idle... |
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| 18:50.29 | raz0rsedge | moin. |
| 18:50.30 | ultraviolet16 | if running irssi from outside of x how do I go to another window..? i press alt-left and it takes me to another tty |
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| 18:50.56 | CSMan | hello |
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| 18:50.57 | ultraviolet16 | oh ok i got it forget it |
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| 18:51.17 | tru64 | hi |
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| 18:51.35 | darkcmd | does anyone know if you can use antialiased fonts in aterm? |
| 18:51.40 | blondie | tru64: what messages? |
| 18:51.44 | CSMan | how can i make NFS to keep usernames instead of assigning session ids as file owners? |
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| 18:51.52 | vilefridge | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:52.01 | tru64 | blondie internal messages in the server |
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| 18:52.13 | blondie | tru64: meaning? |
| 18:52.16 | gnd | kernel-package_9 works |
| 18:52.18 | blondie | email? what? |
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| 18:52.48 | tru64 | blondie nop just msg to a user inside the server |
| 18:52.54 | gnd | I downgraded my kernel-package to kernel-package_9.008.4_all.deb and was able to install the new kernel |
| 18:52.57 | koudelka_ | what do download so i can see .rmvb files? |
| 18:53.06 | m1ll3` | gnd: how to downgrade |
| 18:53.17 | koudelka_ | cant find any realmediacodecs :/ |
| 18:53.28 | gnd | well, i had a cached copy of the package in /var/cache/apt/archive |
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| 18:53.37 | m1ll3` | doh |
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| 18:53.51 | gnd | look in there, if you don't have it you'll have to find it on the web |
| 18:53.59 | m1ll3` | did a complete reinstall coz my ext3 partition was fucked up due to a crash |
| 18:54.12 | m1ll3` | this day sucks :( |
| 18:54.12 | Houdini | can anybody tell me how to hear radio straem with mpg321 ? |
| 18:54.24 | gnd | I can give you kernel-package_9.008.4_all.deb |
| 18:54.53 | chorse | Houdini, i don't think mpg321 is network capable |
| 18:54.57 | CSMan | m1ll3`: been there, done that =P (hard drive miscarriage) |
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| 18:55.10 | CSMan | mpg123 is =P |
| 18:55.19 | Houdini | chorse, any other ideas how to listen to radio on console? |
| 18:55.21 | m1ll3` | are they so fast considering upgrades on kernel-package that there are 4 builds inbetween? just installed a kernel yesterday |
| 18:55.25 | koudelka_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:55.34 | CSMan | Houdini: teh mplayer <o/ |
| 18:55.54 | Houdini | apt-get don't show it |
| 18:56.10 | CSMan | build it , and he will come ~ |
| 18:56.15 | koudelka_ | apt-cache search mplayer |
| 18:56.21 | CSMan | Houdini: how much processor power |
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| 18:56.29 | Houdini | 600mhz |
| 18:56.30 | chorse | Houdini, mplayer can do that |
| 18:56.32 | CSMan | apt-get doesn't make like portupgrade |
| 18:56.43 | CSMan | Houdini: your build will be done in 20 minutes |
| 18:57.04 | Houdini | ok, i've never build something by my own... |
| 18:57.06 | chorse | or any console app using gstreamer should be able to do that |
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| 18:57.25 | koudelka_ | where can i find codecs to realmedia? |
| 18:57.30 | dusk | debian |
| 18:57.34 | m1ll3` | gnd: the problem is, that i'm not able to do any operations with apt-get or aptitude because it keeps telling me "The package linux-image-2.6.14-ck6 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it." |
| 18:57.40 | abrotman | koudelka_: real.com |
| 18:57.46 | smhar | can't I just tell debian to use that &^%* driver for the network card.. |
| 18:58.09 | Haukkari | How come there isn't anything like Partition Magic for Linux... |
| 18:58.14 | abrotman | there is |
| 18:58.18 | Haukkari | ? |
| 18:58.24 | Haukkari | really... |
| 18:58.31 | CSMan | Houdini: it'll be fun, just hit the mplayer headquarters page and follow the instructions =D |
| 18:58.36 | smhar | Haukkari, thre is |
| 18:58.37 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 18:58.37 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 18:58.49 | Haukkari | smhar: what would that be? |
| 18:59.32 | koudelka_ | abrotman, cant find it :/ |
| 18:59.39 | Houdini | thx @ csman |
| 18:59.42 | abrotman | koudelka_: you have to download the real linux player |
| 19:00.14 | smhar | Haukkari, try gnu parted |
| 19:00.18 | abrotman | koudelka_: https://player.helixcommunity.org/2005/help/playerfaq.html |
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| 19:00.21 | Haukkari | smhar: allright. Thanks |
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| 19:00.34 | smhar | Haukkari, http://www.gnu.org/software/parted/parted.html |
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| 19:01.18 | Haukkari | smhar: pretty limited on the NTFS-section... but no matter. Thanks! :) |
| 19:01.22 | koudelka_ | abrotman, not on a apt package? |
| 19:01.33 | abrotman | vilefridge: you have to .. at least until they fix skype |
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| 19:01.42 | abrotman | !w32codecs |
| 19:01.42 | dpkg | w32codecs is, like, a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 19:01.47 | abrotman | maybe there .. but i odn't think it is |
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| 19:02.37 | smhar | Haukkari, linux in general is limited in NTFS FS |
| 19:02.46 | Haukkari | smhar: yeah, I know. |
| 19:02.54 | vilefridge | abrotman: ohh, Skype is the problem? |
| 19:02.55 | Haukkari | smhar: well, that doesn't matter, as I only use Linux in servers nowadays... |
| 19:03.11 | koudelka_ | found it on apt-get :P thx |
| 19:03.43 | abrotman | vilefridge: not directly .. skype depends on an older library .. incompatible with the one that arson/k3b requires |
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| 19:04.19 | Daveman | yo abrotman |
| 19:04.39 | resiak | Right, so Sarge's xkb stuff does not have a gb variant of dvorak. Etch's does. The difference is in three files in /etc/X11/xkb. I don't want to simply replace them on my Sarge box with those from my Etch box, because that might make dpkg cry. What's the sanest way to add the map to my Sarge box? |
| 19:04.44 | vilefridge | abrotman: ah, that makes sense :) thank you! |
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| 19:05.11 | abrotman | hi Daveman |
| 19:05.39 | Daveman | what's up? |
| 19:05.45 | abrotman | nada |
| 19:06.03 | Daveman | eh |
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| 19:06.21 | smhar | I seek help with setting up a network card.. tried google and debian.org but still not working |
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| 19:06.46 | Daveman | problem? hardware? kernel? yada yada |
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| 19:06.51 | Daveman | wireless? |
| 19:06.52 | abrotman | i just got my first snow . and i'm already sick ofit |
| 19:06.57 | Daveman | haha yeah :P |
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| 19:07.01 | abrotman | smhar: more details are needed |
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| 19:07.06 | Daveman | I shoveled out all that shit this morning |
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| 19:07.14 | abrotman | Daveman: how much did you get ? |
| 19:07.25 | smhar | Daveman, not it is intel built-in chip |
| 19:07.26 | Daveman | like 2-3", at least, that's what it looked like |
| 19:07.28 | abrotman | (and .. come spring .. a new car will be required) |
| 19:07.37 | abrotman | Daveman: you're in PA ? |
| 19:07.38 | Daveman | smhar, well... that's surely helpful? ... |
| 19:07.43 | Daveman | abrotman, NJ :P |
| 19:07.45 | Mr_Rock | hi, somebody can help me with a problem with the mixer?? |
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| 19:07.45 | smhar | Daveman working fine in windows and mandrake 10 |
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| 19:07.51 | abrotman | smhar: what is the chipset ? |
| 19:07.58 | Daveman | mixer? |
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| 19:08.07 | Mr_Rock | the volume |
| 19:08.07 | Daveman | Mr_Rock, hi, #cooking is down the hall? --------------> :P |
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| 19:08.11 | Daveman | oh, haha |
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| 19:08.16 | Daveman | alsa_mixer then? |
| 19:08.19 | Mr_Rock | yep |
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| 19:08.22 | Mr_Rock | sorry |
| 19:08.27 | Daveman | :P |
| 19:08.32 | Daveman | abrotman, you? |
| 19:08.46 | abrotman | Daveman: NW of philly |
| 19:08.56 | Daveman | ah, cool |
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| 19:09.00 | Mr_Rock | when i try to up the volume says this: Sorry, no mixer elements and/or devices found |
| 19:09.06 | abrotman | smhar: what chipset ? |
| 19:09.13 | smhar | abrotman, Intel(R) PRO/100 VE |
| 19:09.16 | Daveman | lspci for the win |
| 19:09.27 | abrotman | smhar: that's wireless ? |
| 19:09.32 | Daveman | haha |
| 19:09.41 | smhar | abrotman, no |
| 19:09.41 | Daveman | not necessarily |
| 19:09.52 | Mr_Rock | and the cd player doesn't sound but the mp3 it does |
| 19:10.02 | Daveman | heh |
| 19:10.11 | abrotman | smhar: did you try the e100 driver ? |
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| 19:11.21 | smhar | abrotman, the netinst cd sets the system to use e100 but it doesn't seems to work.. I can't even ping the router |
| 19:11.26 | Flimzy | Has anyone here gotten nvidia drivers to work on amd64? What's the trick? |
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| 19:11.48 | abrotman | smhar: it's either e100 or eepro100 |
| 19:11.53 | abrotman | or should be anyways |
| 19:11.58 | abrotman | Flimzy: #debian-amd64 |
| 19:12.21 | Flimzy | abrotman: I shoulda thought of that. thankx |
| 19:12.42 | Mitsui_Sam | Does anybody knows if there is any problem with security.debian.org? I try to install gnome, but it can't get libxtrap6 |
| 19:12.49 | Daveman | heh |
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| 19:12.56 | smhar | abrotman, ok.. but now I want to try the eepro100, but don't know how |
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| 19:13.06 | Daveman | get driver; install - woo |
| 19:13.31 | abrotman | smhar: you need to unload e100 .. then load eepro100 |
| 19:13.42 | misieq | what can i do when wine says i'm missing libXxf86vm.so.1 and it cannot create a window? |
| 19:13.48 | Daveman | oh noes, I hear shovels outside! |
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| 19:13.59 | smhar | abrotman, I did modprobe -r e100, then modprobe eepro100 |
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| 19:14.12 | abrotman | and lsmod says ? |
| 19:14.22 | abrotman | perhaps the eepro100 driver doesn't run it .. |
| 19:14.28 | nathraah | I set up a proxy server in a windows box, through which I have "net" into my linux box, any ideas to use this proxy server for every app in Linux? |
| 19:14.32 | nathraah | automatically |
| 19:14.37 | smhar | it shows eepro100 but says used by: 0 |
| 19:14.47 | misieq | is there any way to get this file? |
| 19:14.48 | Daveman | -_- |
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| 19:15.01 | abrotman | smhar: so does my NIC .. though i'm not actually using it (yay wireless) |
| 19:15.12 | Daveman | abrotman :) |
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| 19:15.32 | smhar | abrotman, :-) but I want to get to the router to complete my install |
| 19:15.45 | abrotman | i love having radiation fly through my brain .. soon i'll be on the level of a normal #debian sunday attendee |
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| 19:16.04 | abrotman | smhar: yes .. did you have the eepro100 driver try to get an IP again? |
| 19:16.44 | nathraah | anyone? |
| 19:16.53 | smhar | abrotman, when I try ifup eth0 it fails.. it still trys to load the e100 |
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| 19:16.54 | eu | with apt-get install ____ is posible to specify a version¿? |
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| 19:17.03 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:17.06 | abrotman | man apt-get |
| 19:17.25 | smhar | abrotman, I think there must be a file that says that eth0 refers to eepro100 driver |
| 19:17.27 | eu | thnx |
| 19:17.32 | abrotman | smhar: have you tried google for "Intel Pro/100 VE debian driver" ? |
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| 19:17.43 | Coutal | the driver is the e100 driver |
| 19:17.48 | smhar | abrotman, and that is not /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:17.56 | goron | How do I connect to a Windows machine, such that I can actually write something to it? |
| 19:18.04 | abrotman | smbclient ? |
| 19:18.12 | Coutal | i wouldn't use eepro100 unless i am sure that e100 is broken for whatever reason |
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| 19:18.31 | goron | abrotman: yes, but if I don't fill in a username, I still get a list of files. |
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| 19:18.46 | cr3 | if I plug a usb device into my computer, how can I guess what /dev it corresponds to? |
| 19:18.50 | goron | abrotman: (or a password), so it's some kind of guest account. |
| 19:18.54 | abrotman | goron: anonymous share ? |
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| 19:18.56 | smhar | abrotman, that that search per se |
| 19:18.59 | goron | abrotman: The authentication doesn't work. |
| 19:19.07 | abrotman | or isnt' required ? |
| 19:19.35 | abrotman | smhar: sure .. that's your card .. and you need a driver for debian .. but as Coutal said . e100 should work .. |
| 19:19.44 | cr3 | should I try: for i in `ls /dev`; do sudo mount $i /mnt; done # hope all goes well? |
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| 19:19.47 | goron | abrotman: I believe I choose the simplest "security model", so that could be, but still I can't write to it. |
| 19:20.28 | abrotman | cr3: dmesg |
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| 19:20.42 | nixo | I get Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7 from grub. What does it mean? |
| 19:20.44 | abrotman | goron: check the windows share permissions |
| 19:20.48 | smhar | abrotman, ok if it should work why it does not work.. although my interfaces file is ok. and the resolve.conf is ok as well |
| 19:20.59 | abrotman | smhar: did you already do the install? |
| 19:21.02 | abrotman | smacnay: resolv.conf |
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| 19:21.05 | nixo | hello |
| 19:21.22 | tarzeau | hey abrotman |
| 19:21.31 | abrotman | hio |
| 19:21.36 | abrotman | tarzeau: take over .. i need to shower :) |
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| 19:21.46 | smhar | abrotman, of debian? yes.. but I cant do any apt-get install as I can't get to my router |
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| 19:22.09 | abrotman | smhar: ifconfig -a shows your card ? does it have an IP ? |
| 19:22.20 | tarzeau | abrotman: got a rubber duck? |
| 19:22.23 | Kluster_v2 | goron, there is always "LinNeighborhood". Never used it myself but it's an easy way to mount windows shares |
| 19:22.43 | cr3 | abrotman: USB Mass Storage device found at 3, so is that /dev/sda3? I can't mount any of the /dev/sda* devices for some reason. |
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| 19:23.49 | smhar | abrotman, not it shows e100.. I want to change the alias between eth0 and e100 to eepro100, but where? |
| 19:24.22 | goron | abrotman: I think some member of my family decided to do something stupid. It indeed was a permission problem. Thanks |
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| 19:25.14 | gnd | is there a special device that you need to have permissions for when using ALSA? |
| 19:25.30 | nixie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:26.37 | misieq | wine complains about not being able to find some drvier file... where should i put in order to let wine find it?? |
| 19:27.00 | Daveman | later abrotman |
| 19:27.02 | nixie | dkpg.. cut that out already will you |
| 19:27.04 | psychonate | Is there a way to change the vertical refresh for GRUB, so the splashimage doesn't hurt my eyes :( ? |
| 19:27.38 | Shadowcat | framebuffer |
| 19:27.44 | tarzeau | psychonate: make the picture all black |
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| 19:27.55 | nixie | for grub, framebuffer wont help |
| 19:28.07 | nixie | only after grub framebuffer comes in to play. afaik. |
| 19:28.25 | psychonate | nixie, oh, it's not already? |
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| 19:29.23 | nixie | not afaik. if im not mistaken, grub relies on bios modes and im not even sure if it can change from its default at all |
| 19:29.59 | psychonate | well, there's a gentoo howto that includes fb information for grub |
| 19:30.09 | psychonate | but I don't know if their version of grub is newer/patched |
| 19:30.15 | tarzeau | i wonder why people care about grub splashscreens at all |
| 19:30.33 | psychonate | tarzeau, is it bad to want thing to look nice once in a while? |
| 19:30.39 | psychonate | s/thing/things |
| 19:30.41 | misieq | any ideas? |
| 19:30.46 | nixie | tarzeau: for instance in the appliance i'm setting up which is hooked to videowalls in various places. |
| 19:30.48 | tarzeau | psychonate: no, but you'll need to reboot to see it |
| 19:31.08 | psychonate | tarzeau, well, when I do have to reboot, I'd prefer to see something nice. |
| 19:31.26 | tarzeau | psychonate: next you'll want it play music too? |
| 19:31.31 | psychonate | and you can cycle through different splashimages from the grub prompt at least |
| 19:31.38 | psychonate | tarzeau, I didn't say that. |
| 19:31.40 | tarzeau | gosh |
| 19:31.45 | nixie | tarzeau: good idea actually. |
| 19:32.01 | nixie | like thesystembootupsong.mp3 |
| 19:32.09 | psychonate | tarzeau, pardon me if I don't want everything to be stock. |
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| 19:33.15 | gnd | ok, I am in the audio group, seems like I have the correct sound card module, but alsa doesn't work |
| 19:33.22 | gnd | any idea what could be the problem? |
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| 19:33.30 | psychonate | nixie, wel, the grub manual notes the "vga" option, which, according the gentoo howto, is what one uses for framebufer in grub. |
| 19:33.32 | nixie | gnd: did you relogin |
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| 19:33.49 | gnd | nixie: I was already in the audio group |
| 19:34.18 | gnd | I used to have OSS but now I recompiled the kernel with ALSA support |
| 19:34.33 | gnd | now I have no sound in kde |
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| 19:34.57 | Elly | hey guys |
| 19:35.03 | gnd | sblive! |
| 19:35.05 | Elly | I have a .deb that depends on libxerces26 |
| 19:35.05 | nixie | gnd: are you sure the alsa driver is loaded? try grep -iA1 alsa /var/log/dmesg. also, did you reconfigure your kde sound daemon? probably artsd |
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| 19:35.11 | Elly | but libxerces26 is a 'virtual' package |
| 19:35.13 | Elly | and I can't install it |
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| 19:35.48 | gnd | nixie: ALSA device list: #0: SBLive 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102) at 0xa800, irq 10 |
| 19:35.48 | nixie | Elly: tried installing it from dselect? |
| 19:35.54 | chorse | try libxerces26c2. |
| 19:36.15 | chorse | the name changed due the gcc4 switch. |
| 19:36.42 | nixie | gnd: you should probably reconfigure your KDE sound server. |
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| 19:36.55 | gnd | where do I reconfigure that? |
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| 19:37.31 | nixie | gnd: also make sure your alsa packages are installed. e.g. apt-get install alsa-base alsa-oss alsa-utils |
| 19:37.37 | nixie | gnd: try the kde control panel? |
| 19:37.49 | gnd | tried that, nothing |
| 19:37.59 | gnd | oh, hm |
| 19:38.01 | gnd | lemme see |
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| 19:39.16 | captevil-two | If I have a CD but my computer won't boot it, is there a way to use the boot floppies to load the CD? |
| 19:39.26 | captevil-two | (CD = debian netinstall CD) |
| 19:39.46 | tarzeau | captevil-two: yes there is |
| 19:39.48 | abrotman | smhar: are you sure eepro100 will work ? |
| 19:39.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: my did you shower fast |
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| 19:40.11 | captevil-two | tarzeau: Can you elaborate? |
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| 19:40.22 | tarzeau | captevil-two: the cd has floppy images |
| 19:40.24 | abrotman | tarzeau: i didn't shave :) |
| 19:40.27 | tarzeau | captevil-two: browse it |
| 19:40.40 | tarzeau | abrotman: and you're not wet and nude anymore either? |
| 19:40.48 | abrotman | tarzeau: nope .. |
| 19:40.59 | captevil-two | tarzeau: I know, I've booted them, but is there a way to use them to load the CD? |
| 19:41.02 | tarzeau | abrotman: you don't have hairs? |
| 19:41.09 | abrotman | tarzeau: hairs where ? |
| 19:41.12 | tarzeau | captevil-two: yes |
| 19:41.15 | tarzeau | abrotman: on the head |
| 19:41.42 | abrotman | tarzeau: sure ... you've seen the pictures :) |
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| 19:42.07 | eu | do you know if i can get kernel-source-2.6.12¿ |
| 19:42.33 | abrotman | yes .. you can |
| 19:42.41 | tarzeau | abrotman: isn't that too old already? |
| 19:42.53 | abrotman | tarzeau: the umbrella picture ? |
| 19:42.55 | eu | cos with apt-get i onli can get 10 and 11 |
| 19:42.58 | eu | not 12 |
| 19:42.58 | tarzeau | abrotman: no 2.6.12 |
| 19:43.05 | tarzeau | eu: not .14 ? |
| 19:43.10 | tarzeau | eu: you're on sid, aren't you? |
| 19:43.14 | abrotman | tarzeau: it's still in etch |
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| 19:43.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: i don't remember the pictures. umbrella? |
| 19:43.23 | tarzeau | abrotman: no sane people use etch |
| 19:43.24 | eu | i mean: |
| 19:43.41 | eu | root@ubu:/usr/games# uname -a |
| 19:43.41 | eu | Linux ubu 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Fri Nov 18 11:51:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:43.53 | tarzeau | eu: ubu? what hostname is that? |
| 19:44.19 | eu | tarzeau: sorri i dont understand our question |
| 19:44.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: i use etch |
| 19:44.33 | tarzeau | abrotman: you're insane |
| 19:44.41 | abrotman | tarzeau: oh .. i forgot |
| 19:44.44 | tarzeau | eu: does ubu mean something? |
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| 19:44.56 | eu | no it means ubuntu |
| 19:45.03 | abrotman | eu: are you running ubuntu ? |
| 19:45.07 | eu | yes |
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| 19:45.16 | abrotman | eu: /j #ubuntu |
| 19:45.21 | eu | ok |
| 19:45.31 | tarzeau | eu: care to tell me what ubu is? |
| 19:45.38 | abrotman | tarzeau: ubuntu |
| 19:46.05 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah i remember, you can't test the latest and greatest stuff in sid |
| 19:46.28 | cddesjar | abrotman: hi! long time no see |
| 19:46.46 | tarzeau | cddesjar: care to play bubnbros again, this time on a fast server? |
| 19:46.49 | smesjz | can we expect a thread-safe compiled version of PHP5 anywhere in the future? The current php5 package depends on Apache's prefork MPM because of that, while I need the performance of MPM worker... |
| 19:46.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: but my machine isn't broken either :) |
| 19:47.05 | cddesjar | tarzeau: sure...can you resend the bubnbros link? |
| 19:47.07 | abrotman | smesjz: ask the php maintainer .. |
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| 19:47.19 | tarzeau | cddesjar: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 19:47.25 | abrotman | smesjz: i thought it was actually a PHP5 problem .. but maybe i'm wrong |
| 19:48.09 | smesjz | abrotman: I have a thread-safe compiled version of PHP5 that runs with the default mpm-worker package from Debian. |
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| 19:48.25 | smesjz | but i'll bug the Debian PHP Maintainers instead |
| 19:48.26 | tarzeau | cddesjar: use the lug-ag.ethz.ch:1871 server |
| 19:48.34 | abrotman | !maint php5 |
| 19:48.42 | dpkg | php5: Debian PHP Maintainers <pkg-php-maint@lists.alioth.debian.org> |
| 19:48.43 | abrotman | smesjz: ^^ |
| 19:48.45 | tarzeau | takatumi! BUBBLES |
| 19:48.47 | cddesjar | ok...it will be a few minutes..but i clink on it |
| 19:48.48 | SNow | Hello, there I have kinda interesting situation here, the download/upload speed is horribly slow, but the ping is normal, how could I check where is the problem and how to fix it :) |
| 19:48.51 | smesjz | ah thanx |
| 19:49.01 | abrotman | SNow: maybe the server is overloaded ? |
| 19:49.06 | tarzeau | cddesjar: we play "Dreamland" levels... LOL |
| 19:49.23 | SNow | abrotman no the loads are like 00:01 00:00 |
| 19:49.24 | SNow | and so on |
| 19:49.34 | SNow | load average: 0,11, 0,06, 0,02 |
| 19:49.39 | abrotman | SNow: that doesn't measure network load |
| 19:49.48 | goron | How does that work anyway? If I find a bug in some software which is packaged by Debian, to who should I send the bug report? |
| 19:49.52 | SNow | how could I check the network load |
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| 19:50.00 | abrotman | goron: use reportbug |
| 19:50.03 | abrotman | ntop ? |
| 19:50.23 | SNow | abrotman for me? :) |
| 19:50.36 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:50.51 | madona | hello |
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| 19:52.10 | madona | I have a problem with apt. apt-cache show apt tells me that I have version 0.5.28.6 but dpkg -s shows me 0.63 |
| 19:52.22 | abrotman | dpkg -l apt |
| 19:52.22 | dpkg | No packages found matching apt |
| 19:52.29 | abrotman | dpkg: shuddup |
| 19:52.29 | dpkg | Fine, I'll be quiet. |
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| 19:53.09 | abrotman | madona: ? |
| 19:53.19 | madona | abrotman, yes |
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| 19:53.23 | Covener | madona: Are you sure apt-cache maybe showing you more than 1 listing. |
| 19:53.35 | SNow | abrotman the network is kinda ok |
| 19:53.36 | abrotman | madona: dpkg -l apt .. what does it say ? |
| 19:53.41 | SNow | no downloads no uploads ;/ |
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| 19:53.55 | abrotman | SNow: how slow is "slow? |
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| 19:54.27 | madona | jajaa Thanks , you are good |
| 19:54.29 | madona | :) |
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| 19:54.37 | patryk-state-ma | how do I set my numlock on during boot? |
| 19:54.44 | madona | the real thing was out of the viewport |
| 19:54.46 | Kluster_v2 | you press it :) |
| 19:54.49 | mjk64 | patryk-state-ma: setled? |
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| 19:54.59 | mjk64 | patryk-state-ma: "setleds", sorry. |
| 19:55.22 | patryk-state-ma | mjk64, is that a packages or a conf file in /etc? |
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| 19:55.32 | mjk64 | patryk-state-ma: program |
| 19:55.34 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ok...i'm there now |
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| 19:55.54 | SNow | abrotman 1kb/s |
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| 19:56.03 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you're green? i'm golden |
| 19:56.18 | patryk-state-ma | mjk64 is there a config setting I could make under /etc so that it boots? or do I have to use a program to do that? |
| 19:56.21 | tarzeau | cddesjar: no lag, right? |
| 19:56.27 | abrotman | SNow: are you on dialup ? |
| 19:56.40 | patryk-state-ma | mjk64 *so that it boots with the numlock on ... |
| 19:56.41 | cddesjar | tarzeau: yup |
| 19:56.46 | SNow | abrotman cable. |
| 19:56.54 | mjk64 | patryk-state-ma: I've never used it. I'd put "setleds <params>" in the boot scripts. |
| 19:57.00 | VolVE | hey all, bit of a newbie when it comes to drivers - seeing as I have an e1000.ko file in /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-686/kernel/drivers/net/e1000/, how can I get it loaded so the system's new NIC shows-up? :-/ |
| 19:57.02 | abrotman | SNow: mii-tool ? |
| 19:57.11 | mjk64 | patryk-state-ma: Otherwise, see the documentation. :-) |
| 19:57.12 | patryk-state-ma | mjk64 thanks |
| 19:57.12 | abrotman | VolVE: modconf |
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| 19:57.23 | cheal | goron: you can always report to debian. [very] well-maintained packages will have bugs forwarded to upstream by the maintainers. if you're trying to be most useful, don't report minor upstream bugs to Debian. only a minority of debian maintainers will fix some of those. so, only report important upstream bugs to Debian too. |
| 19:57.42 | abrotman | cheal: you're slow :) |
| 19:57.53 | VolVE | abrotman: hmm, ok, thanks |
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| 19:58.01 | cheal | abrotman: I'm in a break! |
| 19:58.39 | SNow | abrotman #flood |
| 19:58.40 | goron | Is there some way to "really" configure a Windows share, instead of checking two checkboxes(i.e. "share this folder" and "give everyone access to change everything") and not have it working? |
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| 19:59.18 | abrotman | SNow: is that a mirror you run ? |
| 20:00.01 | SNow | this is apt-get install ntop |
| 20:00.02 | SNow | thing |
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| 20:00.11 | SNow | yes a mirror of debian packages |
| 20:00.13 | SNow | in Lithuania |
| 20:00.19 | Daveman | abrotman, back from the shower realm? |
| 20:00.21 | SNow | on high speed education internet |
| 20:00.22 | ansong | are all cd-recording packages screwed up right now? k3b is uninstallable, graveman tries to burn and then segfaults, xcdroast can't find any devices, neither can cdrecord or cdrdao. i'm using the same kernel that i had when it all worked, so wtf? |
| 20:00.49 | abrotman | SNow: but is it yours ? |
| 20:00.55 | abrotman | SNow: and do you have any other machines that work ok ? |
| 20:00.58 | SNow | abrotman debina.ktu.lt ? - no |
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| 20:01.02 | SNow | abrotman yes I do |
| 20:01.17 | SNow | this is remote root - library.unixware.lt, and it's connection is very slow |
| 20:01.26 | SNow | debina.ktu.lt - debian packages mirror |
| 20:01.41 | abrotman | SNow: have you tried another mirror ? |
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| 20:02.04 | SNow | abrotman that doesn't matter |
| 20:02.06 | SNow | from local lan |
| 20:02.07 | SNow | ftp |
| 20:02.10 | SNow | i get 2kb/s |
| 20:02.11 | SNow | ;/ |
| 20:02.15 | SNow | and from another webpages |
| 20:02.21 | abrotman | SNow: ifconfig -a .. show any errors ? |
| 20:02.25 | SNow | no |
| 20:02.35 | abrotman | none ? |
| 20:02.37 | abrotman | at all ? |
| 20:02.39 | SNow | everything is ok eth0 - lan eth1 - external ip |
| 20:02.46 | SNow | of the internet |
| 20:02.46 | abrotman | SNow: mii-tool ? |
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| 20:02.55 | SNow | I can't install it so fast :) |
| 20:03.00 | SNow | when I get connection time outs |
| 20:03.04 | diana | How can I easily convert mp3 to ogg..what program? |
| 20:03.06 | cddesjar | tarzeau: that was a big gem |
| 20:03.10 | tarzeau | cddesjar: LOL DIAMONDS |
| 20:03.14 | tarzeau | cddesjar: yes i got the chest ;) |
| 20:03.22 | streuner | diana: You can't |
| 20:03.23 | tarzeau | DIAMONDS LOL DIAMONDS ;) |
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| 20:03.38 | diana | streuner: Why not? |
| 20:03.39 | streuner | diana: without loosing quality |
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| 20:03.53 | tarzeau | get the green wand! |
| 20:03.57 | Daveman | woo |
| 20:04.05 | diana | streuner: That's fine...I don't mind losing quality. |
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| 20:04.06 | abrotman | tarzeau: #bub-n-bros ? |
| 20:04.20 | Trixsey|Laptop | My task was to create a game (In Java), which was easy to expand with new game classes. I made an interface for those games called "GameHub". Would you guys build the game this way? Or do you consider it bad? If so, why? |
| 20:04.24 | tarzeau | abrotman: yes, he didn't join there |
| 20:04.25 | streuner | diana: mp3->wav->ogg |
| 20:04.25 | Trixsey|Laptop | http://www.animania.nu/uml_ftw.jpg |
| 20:04.27 | Trixsey|Laptop | What do you guys think? Does this class-diagram look okay? I'm looking for feedback on both var/method declarations and class relations! I'm kinda new in this area so I'm not too sure I got everything right! |
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| 20:04.47 | madona | Hi I need to reinstall apt because now I have 0.6.43 and the version of lib-pkg-libc6 that it ptovides is the .11 and I need the .10 because what I really want is apt-build which requires lib-pkg-perl wiich depends on that .10 |
| 20:05.08 | diana | streuner: What program? |
| 20:05.13 | madona | apt-get -t '0.6.42*' --reinstall install apt reinstalls me the 0.6.43 of apt... what can I do |
| 20:05.14 | madona | ? |
| 20:05.39 | streuner | diana: well, check out xmms (diskwriter output plugin) or man mpg123 |
| 20:05.43 | predius_ | que es |
| 20:05.49 | predius_ | damnit. |
| 20:05.59 | streuner | diana: for ogg you nee vorbis-tools package |
| 20:06.06 | streuner | diana: s/nee/need/ |
| 20:06.08 | valdyn | madona: dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/apt-blah ( if you have it there still ) |
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| 20:06.22 | zcot | is there something for lan file sharing with a windows box? |
| 20:06.37 | tarzeau | cddesjar: hahahah i got all the little diamonds, you know they give way more points than the big one ;) |
| 20:06.43 | madona | valdyn, thanks .. I will try that |
| 20:06.45 | m1ll3` | zcot: samba |
| 20:06.48 | ansong | zcot, www.samba.org |
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| 20:07.04 | krowtoe | does anyone know when will there be a package for camaelon ?? are any debian gnustep users here ?? |
| 20:07.08 | cddesjar | tarzeau: no! |
| 20:07.09 | valdyn | zcot: putty, if you dont need tight integration on win |
| 20:07.11 | abrotman | !wnpp |
| 20:07.12 | dpkg | wnpp is, like, Work-Needing and Prospective Packages list, at http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp/, or if you miss a package in debian, use the WNPP to request it. |
| 20:07.16 | tarzeau | cddesjar: of course :) |
| 20:07.53 | zcot | valdyn: that's an ssh type situation? |
| 20:08.02 | valdyn | zcot: yep |
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| 20:09.09 | krowtoe | abrotman: thanks, but i believe it has been requested already |
| 20:09.12 | TMS | where do I configure which user will be getting system emails instead of root? |
| 20:09.37 | abrotman | krowtoe: and what does it say there then ? |
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| 20:10.11 | abrotman | tarzeau: where's cameleon ? |
| 20:10.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: what's that? |
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| 20:10.52 | abrotman | tarzeau: you filed the darn bug |
| 20:11.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: camaelon you mean, well still not released |
| 20:11.05 | abrotman | tarzeau: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=290961 |
| 20:11.14 | krowtoe | abrotman: http ://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=290961 |
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| 20:11.28 | tarzeau | abrotman: gnustep is broken in sid still |
| 20:11.32 | tarzeau | abrotman: so i can't fix it |
| 20:11.50 | abrotman | fix gnustep! |
| 20:12.01 | tarzeau | abrotman: i'm not its maintainer |
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| 20:12.11 | tictac | hmm. kernel-image still produces bunk packages. |
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| 20:13.25 | gnd | how do I see which program is still using cdrom? I need umount it but it keeps telling me device busy |
| 20:13.28 | Lord_Athur | hi |
| 20:13.59 | streuner | gnd: Are you still in that folder /cdrom ? |
| 20:14.04 | gnd | no |
| 20:14.06 | tarzeau | fuser -k /cdrom |
| 20:14.26 | gnd | tarzeau: /cdrom: |
| 20:14.37 | gnd | that's the reply I get from that |
| 20:14.41 | cddesjar | tarzeau: wow i can really jump |
| 20:14.41 | tarzeau | gnd: now it's not used anymore :) |
| 20:14.42 | streuner | gnd: are you in another shell in that folder? |
| 20:14.49 | Lord_Athur | I've downloaded Debian sarge, but its first realesed version. must this distro auto-configure my video card? |
| 20:15.09 | gnd | tarzeau: still I get umount: /cdrom: device is busy, twice |
| 20:15.17 | gnd | I only have one shell open |
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| 20:15.25 | gnd | and in that shell I am nowhere near /cdrom |
| 20:15.42 | streuner | gnd: reboot |
| 20:15.53 | streuner | easy solution |
| 20:16.02 | gnd | this is now windows |
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| 20:16.11 | abrotman | gnd: fuser / lsof |
| 20:16.12 | streuner | heh |
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| 20:16.51 | gnd | abrotman: what should I see there? |
| 20:16.51 | markybob | anyone know of a wxsvg deb package? |
| 20:17.09 | abrotman | gnd: something possibly using /cdrom ? |
| 20:17.13 | Lord_Athur | I've downloaded Debian sarge, but it was its first realesed version. must this distro auto-configure my video card? or will I have to do that? |
| 20:17.18 | tarzeau | cddesjar: isn't this level cute with hearts? |
| 20:17.21 | madona | valdyn, thanks .. It worked .. bye |
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| 20:17.29 | abrotman | Lord_Athur: you pick it when you configure X |
| 20:17.36 | gnd | abrotman: nothing says /cdrom in that output |
| 20:17.40 | streuner | Lord_Athur: what videocard do you have? |
| 20:17.40 | gnd | just a bunch of numbers |
| 20:17.49 | cddesjar | tarzeau: i have to admit this is a pretty addictive game |
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| 20:17.53 | Lord_Athur | streuner, I do not know it |
| 20:18.01 | valdyn | !setup x |
| 20:18.01 | dpkg | hmm... set up x is First, make sure you have either x-window-system or x-window-system-core installed. To set up X in woody or sarge, "apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86". For etch or sid, use xserver-xorg. Sometimes just dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg works. JUST SAY NO to the frame buffer. |
| 20:18.08 | streuner | Lord_Athur: lspci -v | grep VGA |
| 20:18.08 | tarzeau | cddesjar: haha :) |
| 20:18.16 | tarzeau | cddesjar: did you lose your girlfriend already? |
| 20:18.19 | abrotman | grep -i VGA |
| 20:18.29 | streuner | VGA is ok |
| 20:18.40 | streuner | its upper-case |
| 20:18.43 | cddesjar | tarzeau: my girlfriend? huh? |
| 20:18.44 | streuner | IIRC |
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| 20:18.58 | cddesjar | tarzeau: there are so many options in this game i am amazed |
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| 20:19.24 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you know women hate it when men hang around the computer more than around her |
| 20:19.37 | gnd | I was browsing the /cdrom in konquerer |
| 20:19.38 | Lord_Athur | ok |
| 20:19.39 | gnd | then I closed it |
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| 20:19.48 | gnd | now I can't umount it |
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| 20:19.58 | cddesjar | tarzeau: i see what you mean ;) |
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| 20:20.15 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ok i need to a take a few minute break but i'll be back |
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| 20:20.21 | cddesjar | tarzeau: i need to make a phone call |
| 20:20.49 | gnd | ?? |
| 20:20.50 | iogui | gnd: have you tryed to close konquerer and try it again? |
| 20:20.51 | ke6isf | !tell gnd -about enter |
| 20:20.57 | tarzeau | "jenny, i can't come to dinner today, something important happened" *must play bubnbros* |
| 20:20.58 | mtor | Hi, anyone knows how where i could find the sources of the realplayer debian package to see how they manage to install binaries and libraries with the deb installer ? (rules, Makefile...) ? |
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| 20:21.06 | patryk-state-ma | uhm. I can't find setleds anywhere on my system. so how do I set my numlock on now? |
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| 20:21.13 | gnd | I killed kicker and after I was able to umount the cdrom |
| 20:21.13 | ke6isf | gnd: You can use lsof to find out what's using the cd drive. |
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| 20:21.28 | abrotman | ke6isf: i suggested that |
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| 20:21.58 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: apt-file search setleds |
| 20:22.01 | ke6isf | gnd: He may not have got the message. =/ |
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| 20:22.30 | mtor | noone ? |
| 20:22.32 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman well, I searched for setleds using synaptic and that didn't find anything either. |
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| 20:23.07 | ke6isf | mtor: marillat. And be patient - asking "noone?" two minutes later is rather uncouthe. |
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| 20:23.10 | streuner | mtor: there aren't any, just go to their website |
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| 20:23.21 | mtor | sorry :/ |
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| 20:23.35 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: do what i said! |
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| 20:23.46 | mtor | I watched at marillat website but there is only the deb files not the sources, am I wrong ? |
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| 20:23.51 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: or try packages.debian.org |
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| 20:24.30 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman: apt-file command not found. |
| 20:24.39 | abrotman | install it ? |
| 20:24.42 | ke6isf | !installit |
| 20:24.42 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 20:24.53 | abrotman | apt-get install apt-file ; apt-file update ; apt-file search setleds |
| 20:24.58 | ke6isf | You're talking about needing the sources for your sources.list or the source code for realplayer? The latter isn't available, as it's a closed program. |
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| 20:25.40 | ke6isf | mtor: Read my last line, with the caveat that, as far as I'm aware, RP is closed source. |
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| 20:25.57 | mtor | no I want to see of the package was built coz i need to do an installer like that that copy binaries, librairies and compile nothing |
| 20:26.06 | abrotman | ke6isf: real player is . helix player is open |
| 20:26.12 | mtor | you're right I know rp is closed source |
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| 20:26.21 | ke6isf | mtor: Ah, then you want to see the guts of a debian package, correct? |
| 20:26.41 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman: it didn't return anything. |
| 20:26.42 | ke6isf | abrotman: Thanks for the pointer. =^^= |
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| 20:26.52 | mtor | yes coz I have tried following the maintener guide on debian.org but it doesn't work for me |
| 20:26.56 | abrotman | !find bin/setleds sarge |
| 20:27.03 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'bin/setleds' (1): (/usr/bin/setleds) in utils/console-tools,utils/kbd. |
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| 20:27.09 | abrotman | wow .. look at that! |
| 20:27.13 | abrotman | !info kdb sarge |
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| 20:27.16 | mtor | I don't need to compile anything but just copy files from the deb package to different directories |
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| 20:27.24 | ke6isf | patryk-state-ma: Did you do 'apt-file update' yet? |
| 20:27.29 | abrotman | !info kbd sarge |
| 20:27.32 | dpkg | kbd: (Linux console font and keytable utilities), section utils, is extra. Version: 1.12-11 (sarge), Packaged size: 333 kB, Installed size: 1304 kB |
| 20:27.43 | abrotman | why can't people read ? |
| 20:27.46 | patryk-state-ma | ke6isf |
| 20:27.48 | patryk-state-ma | yeah |
| 20:27.54 | patryk-state-ma | c'mon guys, I'm not a complete idiot. |
| 20:27.59 | goron | !info gcc sarge |
| 20:28.01 | dpkg | gcc: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is standard. Version: 4:3.3.5-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 28 kB |
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| 20:28.03 | dvs | abrotman: people are different colors, not red. |
| 20:28.08 | dvs | oh. sorry |
| 20:28.12 | goron | Nice feature |
| 20:28.13 | ali4728 | Help! I put a new graphic card into my Linux box, to replace the integrated one now GUI wont start! Any ideas how to fix it? |
| 20:28.17 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=setleds&searchmode=searchfiles&case=insensitive&version=stable&arch=i386 |
| 20:28.21 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman I'm also not running sarge, I'm in testing. |
| 20:28.25 | ke6isf | !drxx ali4728 |
| 20:28.25 | dpkg | ali4728: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:28.34 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: so am i .. it's there |
| 20:28.37 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman, thanks, I'll just dpkg. |
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| 20:28.55 | valdyn | !lose patryk-state-ma |
| 20:28.55 | dpkg | patryk-state-ma: You Lose. |
| 20:28.56 | abrotman | patryk-state-ma: apt-get install console-tools or kbd |
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| 20:29.30 | patryk-state-ma | abrotman, thanks |
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| 20:29.49 | patryk-state-ma | valdyn, wha? |
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| 20:30.30 | abrotman | stupid bots |
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| 20:30.42 | abrotman | !kline 81.214.205.187 |
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| 20:30.46 | dvs | abrotman: at least they can't message you anymore |
| 20:30.47 | mtor | ke6isf: have you ever build a deb package with binaries, librairies... in different sub directories ? |
| 20:30.53 | abrotman | dvs: i suppose |
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| 20:31.25 | ke6isf | mtor: No. |
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| 20:31.51 | mtor | thank you for your help i'll try to find a way :/ |
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| 20:32.26 | streuner | !nospambots |
| 20:32.26 | dpkg | nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less, or change timeout to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds or just "/ignore #debian JOINS PARTS QUITS" |
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| 20:32.43 | patryk-state-ma | #*&% didn't have curl installed. |
| 20:33.06 | streuner | patryk-state-ma: should we say apt-get install curl? |
| 20:33.10 | mrtwister | hello. installed debian for server, no graphics, but not configured neetwork... how i can configure network from console under root? |
| 20:33.26 | valdyn | mrtwister: run etherconf |
| 20:33.28 | tarzeau | mrtwister: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:33.50 | mrtwister | valdyn, thanks! |
| 20:33.58 | ke6isf | streuner: How does one import that script into xchat? |
| 20:34.10 | abrotman | ke6isf: i'm not sure you can .. |
| 20:34.22 | abrotman | ke6isf: but if you right click on the channel tab .. you can have it ignore join/parts |
| 20:34.39 | streuner | ke6isf: well, check out xchat.org -> scripts, but there aren't any which run actually well |
| 20:34.41 | ke6isf | abrotman: Ah, thanks. |
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| 20:35.00 | cddesjar | tarzeau: hi back again |
| 20:35.02 | ke6isf | streuner: Well... there's a perl module for xchat that I'm loading, so I suppose it's worth a test. |
| 20:35.13 | tarzeau | cddesjar: k |
| 20:35.14 | streuner | ke6isf: URL? |
| 20:35.26 | ke6isf | streuner: Not sure, I just show xchat loading it. Lemme research. |
| 20:35.29 | streuner | ke6isf: for 2.x, iam using 1.8.9 |
| 20:35.43 | ke6isf | stratocaster: Well, then, upgrade! =^_^= |
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| 20:36.34 | GregorR | Hmm, does debian-mentors reject all @hotmail.com emails? Maybe I'll need to use my real address :P |
| 20:36.49 | tarzeau | GregorR: what's the full email address? |
| 20:36.50 | streuner | prolly not |
| 20:36.57 | GregorR | AKAQuinn@hotmail.com |
| 20:37.05 | tarzeau | GregorR: if it's @debian.org they don't reject anything imho |
| 20:37.09 | GregorR | I registered, and sent an email, and it just sort of black-holed. |
| 20:37.09 | tarzeau | GregorR: i mean the debian-mentors one |
| 20:37.18 | tarzeau | GregorR: ask #debian-mentors |
| 20:37.22 | GregorR | Okidoke |
| 20:37.29 | tarzeau | GregorR: what did it say? smtp says no mails go lost |
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| 20:37.45 | GregorR | Nothing, no response at all. |
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| 20:37.55 | GregorR | That's just it, it should have sent my email back and put it in the archive. |
| 20:38.09 | tarzeau | GregorR: no response means delivered |
| 20:38.15 | tarzeau | GregorR: ask #debian-mentors really |
| 20:38.23 | GregorR | I just joined there :) |
| 20:38.29 | zcot | wow impressive.. thanks guys. I put up samba with the Smb4K frontend.. it's a fine thing |
| 20:38.34 | tarzeau | GregorR: pr better yet. play #bub-n-bros meanwhile |
| 20:39.05 | cddesjar | tarzeau: that was a gue piece of cake |
| 20:39.15 | mfrisch | When I remove hotplug (even though the modules are still loaded) my dhcp client and server donot work. What else does hotplug load for the network?? |
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| 20:39.27 | tarzeau | cddesjar: yes, yummy. check the documentation for all possible items |
| 20:39.51 | streuner | mfrisch: /msg dpkg dhcp client |
| 20:40.04 | mfrisch | streuner ok |
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| 20:40.30 | ke6isf | streuner: http://xchat.org/docs/xchat2-perl.html - and you're right, it's for 2.0.8 and newer. |
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| 20:40.55 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you know bubble bobble was first made for c-64? then atari and amiga? |
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| 20:41.52 | mfrisch | streuner no thats not it it works fine with hotplug and the eth devs are shown with dmesg. interfaces has not changed. |
| 20:41.55 | diana | What is a simple easy to use bittorrent client? |
| 20:42.00 | tarzeau | cddesjar: oh get the bottle |
| 20:42.17 | dvs | diana: qtorrent |
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| 20:42.44 | cddesjar | tarzeau: i didn't know that |
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| 20:43.02 | tarzeau | cddesjar: always get bottles, chests and wands |
| 20:43.05 | tarzeau | cddesjar: even if you die |
| 20:43.06 | cddesjar | tarzeau: hey they dont ahve the original mario bros kicking around do they? |
| 20:43.13 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ok |
| 20:43.19 | tarzeau | cddesjar: well there's supertux |
| 20:43.26 | tarzeau | cddesjar: and jumpnbump with mario graphic/levels |
| 20:43.36 | streuner | mfrisch: have fun then :-) |
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| 20:43.58 | ke6isf | gack, that script is written for irssi specifically. Ah well. |
| 20:44.00 | mfrisch | streuner thanks ;-) |
| 20:44.08 | streuner | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:44.16 | streuner | lsmod | wc |
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| 20:44.52 | streuner | mfrisch: hotplug load almost everythink, you need to find out what you put into /etc/modules then |
| 20:44.59 | streuner | s/load/loads/ |
| 20:45.20 | tarzeau | cddesjar: sometimes you need bubble friend and kill monsters that way -> team work |
| 20:45.51 | mfrisch | streuner yup. will figure it out. |
| 20:46.18 | streuner | mfrisch: if you have enough RAM, just ignore it |
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| 20:47.27 | mfrisch | streuner wanted to goto udev But someday I will have to figure it out. They are doing away with hotplug right?? |
| 20:47.28 | streuner | mfrisch: or just the hard way, blacklist them and see what works or not |
| 20:47.59 | streuner | mfrisch: udev needs hotplug not vice versa... |
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| 20:48.16 | CasaNova__ | Is there any errata or docs on why nvidia driver may suddenly be locking up continuosly (99.9% cpu util) It just started yesterday and I've been using this driver for months and months (debian etch) |
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| 20:48.26 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | hello |
| 20:48.33 | streuner | mfrisch: you can 'blacklist' modules as well via hotplug |
| 20:48.33 | mfrisch | streuner oh |
| 20:48.55 | CasaNova__ | I use dual monitor and nv doesnt seem to understand some of the settigns - i tried switching drvier to nv but got garbage on the screen |
| 20:49.25 | mfrisch | streuner THANKS |
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| 20:50.14 | sandman | diff header include? |
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| 20:51.05 | CasaNova__ | Can a video card that is "going bad" cause the driver to use 99.9% cpu? I am hoping it is truly software only but have nothad problem with nvidia driver before... |
| 20:51.36 | streuner | CasaNova__: what's at the top of 'top'? |
| 20:51.49 | streuner | xfree, xorg? |
| 20:52.03 | CasaNova__ | streuner: xorg (gdm when no one is logged in ) |
| 20:52.16 | Bent | queston: will debian run on an apple ibook? |
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| 20:52.30 | CasaNova__ | streuner: this only started yesterday and I dont recall what I updated from apt yesterday... |
| 20:52.34 | streuner | Bent: /msg dpkg laptops |
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| 20:53.11 | CasaNova__ | streuner: Hav enothad any trouble with nvidia driver before even running xorg for a few months I think... |
| 20:53.13 | goron | I just installed UT2004, but the performance is really low. |
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| 20:53.41 | thma | goron do you have the graphics driver installed? |
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| 20:53.49 | CasaNova__ | Now top will show 99.9% util from xorg after everyrestart of X like closkwork... |
| 20:53.51 | goron | thma: yes |
| 20:53.55 | Haukkari | Is Debian still wholly compiled for i386? |
| 20:54.01 | cddesjar | tarzeau: hey don't pop my bubble |
| 20:54.09 | thma | goron: what speks are your system? |
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| 20:54.28 | goron | thma: 2800+ 1GB 160GB DiamondMax 9 |
| 20:54.39 | dvs | Haukkari: huh? Debian had 11 architectures |
| 20:54.40 | goron | thma: Athlon XP |
| 20:54.50 | tarzeau | cddesjar: heh :) |
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| 20:55.07 | Jacky^ | hi all |
| 20:55.14 | thma | goron: I know that 2800+ and 1GB similar to mine thought i havent tried ut04 |
| 20:55.25 | Haukkari | dvs: I mean |
| 20:55.30 | Haukkari | dvs: the x86 Debian. :) |
| 20:55.37 | goron | thma: On FreeBSD is worked *way* faster. |
| 20:55.45 | Jacky^ | I would like to install Debian Sarge using the new installer and kernel 2.6, anyone can tell me where to find latest version ? |
| 20:55.46 | goron | thma: er it |
| 20:55.47 | Haukkari | dvs: it still works on 386's (at least in principle) |
| 20:55.49 | tarzeau | goron: there is also debian gnu/kfreebsd #gnu-kbsd |
| 20:55.58 | thma | It would |
| 20:56.02 | dvs | Haukkari: Actually, I think a 486 is the minimum now |
| 20:56.10 | Jacky^ | I think should be netinstall |
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| 20:56.20 | Haukkari | dvs: really |
| 20:56.23 | goron | tarzeau: Does that have all the packages that this Debian has? |
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| 20:56.37 | tarzeau | goron: yes, but only 76% are compiled so far (sid) |
| 20:56.44 | Haukkari | dvs: that should silence the Gentoo fools, as Debian is super-optimized now, too! :) |
| 20:56.44 | tarzeau | goron: x and sound work nice for me |
| 20:56.48 | dvs | Haukkari: Yeah, the floating point emulator no longer works. |
| 20:56.50 | tarzeau | goron: all software i use works |
| 20:56.58 | dvs | or something like that. |
| 20:57.00 | goron | tarzeau: nvidia drivers? |
| 20:57.07 | tarzeau | goron: do i have nvidia? no |
| 20:57.15 | tarzeau | goron: graphic? sound or network nvidia? |
| 20:57.20 | goron | tarzeau: graphics |
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| 20:57.26 | tarzeau | goron: network card don't work, sound don't work. graphic only work slow (nv) |
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| 20:57.51 | tarzeau | goron: but that's an nvidia problem, not debian |
| 20:57.55 | Haukkari | :) |
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| 20:58.05 | nathraah | 7159: tree connect failed: ERRSRV - ERRinvnetname (Invalid network name in tree connect.) |
| 20:58.15 | nathraah | when I am trying, to mount a samba share, any ideas, why? |
| 20:58.17 | goron | tarzeau: Couldn't it be that I need a special glx kernel? |
| 20:58.27 | goron | tarzeau: nvidia-glx kernel, I mean. |
| 20:58.37 | tarzeau | goron: no it works perfect without that |
| 20:58.47 | tarzeau | goron: it's just you can play bzflag with 3 frames/second |
| 20:58.52 | goron | tarzeau: I thought there were two implementation of AGPART. |
| 20:58.55 | tarzeau | but who cares when you can play nethack |
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| 20:59.04 | tarzeau | goron: i have no idea. 3d stuff on linux sucks |
| 20:59.11 | tarzeau | , same for freebsd and any os that's not windows |
| 20:59.16 | Haukkari | dvs: by the way... Can you comment on the so-called performance boost that (as some claim) comes from compiling everything to i686 + SSE + MMX +whatever... As I have not noticed any difference between Debian and Gentoo (except the painful compile times).... |
| 20:59.26 | goron | tarzeau: On FreeBSD it's also WAY faster than on Windows. |
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| 20:59.29 | valdyn | goron: you did actually install nvidia-glx? |
| 20:59.34 | goron | valdyn: yes |
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| 20:59.38 | tarzeau | goron: freebsd/i386 only, you mean? |
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| 20:59.57 | goron | tarzeau: I mean FreeBSD compiled for my system. |
| 21:00.06 | dvs | Haukkari: not really. There are a few apps that I use the special version of such as the kernel and mplayer but that's it. |
| 21:00.12 | tarzeau | goron: what is your system? |
| 21:00.32 | xored | How to make a linebrake in the mathe-objekt-editor in OpenOffice ? |
| 21:00.35 | goron | tarzeau: Athlon XP 2800+ 1GB 160GB DiamondMax 9 |
| 21:00.38 | Haukkari | dvs: same here... Except that nowadays I'm on Windows and I don't even know what all the stuff is compiled for. :) |
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| 21:01.15 | tarzeau | goron: dunno, but i like debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 21:02.57 | cr3 | this is unrelated to debian but how do I get into the configuration of Ami BIOS? I can't find any useful documentation on the manufacturer's website. |
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| 21:04.37 | predius_ | cr3: pay attention at boottime |
| 21:04.47 | Haukkari | cr3: pushin del at boottime... |
| 21:05.54 | cr3 | predius: I just saw the message, "press del" flashes for a fraction of a second. really not obvious. sorry for the annoyance |
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| 21:06.31 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you playing tetris first time? |
| 21:06.56 | cddesjar | tarzeau: what the hell? ja ja ja |
| 21:07.01 | cddesjar | ha ha |
| 21:07.08 | tarzeau | cddesjar: multiplayer tetris fun with 10 people :) |
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| 21:07.15 | cddesjar | tarzeau: crazy |
| 21:07.16 | tarzeau | cddesjar: there's also 5 other multiplayer games, like pacman!!! |
| 21:07.20 | tarzeau | cddesjar: crazy LOL fun LOL |
| 21:07.22 | CasaNova__ | OK I just reran nvidia one line and it looks like nvidia kernel drivers were still 2.6.8 but I have 2.6.12 kernel - hopefully this works and keeps it from locking up again,... |
| 21:07.28 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ha ha |
| 21:07.57 | tarzeau | all fruits for tarzeau |
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| 21:10.16 | Eulex | is it possible to create process quotas for users? |
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| 21:11.43 | goron | Anybody else who installed UT2004 and have decent performance? |
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| 21:12.50 | bucky | goron how many frames do you get in glxgears ? |
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| 21:13.18 | goron | bucky: approx. 5000 |
| 21:13.29 | goron | bucky: With FreeBSD I got 7000 |
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| 21:13.50 | bucky | wow |
| 21:14.02 | goron | bucky: does it help to download the drivers from nvidia.com and compile by hand? |
| 21:14.03 | Eulex | goron, Glxgears Is Not A Benchmark(tm) |
| 21:14.24 | sandman | Glxgears is a benchmark of glxgears, though. |
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| 21:14.35 | goron | Eulex: I know, but FreeBSD flies like a rocket and Linux is sluggish. |
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| 21:14.45 | sandman | goron: Which parts of it? |
| 21:14.54 | goron | UT2004 playability seems a good benchmark. |
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| 21:15.09 | goron | sander: Parts of what? |
| 21:15.25 | bucky | i always module-assistant auto-install nvidia |
| 21:15.28 | GregorR | I would say that the benchmarking built in to UT2004 is a better benchmark (or did they stop putting benchmarks in it?) |
| 21:15.30 | bucky | works for me |
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| 21:15.47 | Mage | hmmm I have my kernel config set to build i2c modules but it doesn't make them in the make process, any ideas? |
| 21:15.48 | goron | bucky: what hardware and what performance? |
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| 21:16.20 | bucky | geforce 5500 and it works ok on my games |
| 21:16.31 | bbrazil | Mage: make modules |
| 21:16.34 | goron | bucky: I have a geforece 5900XT. |
| 21:16.39 | CasaNova__ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.45 | goron | bucky: should be enough, right? |
| 21:17.14 | bucky | goron: so if you're not using nvidia drivers for your video card.. what are you using? |
| 21:17.30 | tarzeau | cddesjar: ahhh my brain feels bubbly |
| 21:17.36 | goron | bucky: Who said I wasn't using nvidia drivers? |
| 21:17.37 | tarzeau | cddesjar: one shall stop when it's most exciting |
| 21:17.54 | tarzeau | cddesjar: oh wait |
| 21:18.03 | tarzeau | cddesjar: 8 more levels and a special uber bonus-only level comes |
| 21:18.18 | bucky | goron: that's why i asked.... you have a question about the performance of your video card |
| 21:18.32 | goron | nvidia_agp 7836 1 |
| 21:18.32 | goron | nvidia 3923260 12 |
| 21:18.32 | goron | agpgart 34536 2 nvidia_agp,nvidia |
| 21:18.38 | bucky | no thank you |
| 21:18.52 | bucky | don't flood |
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| 21:18.56 | CasaNova__ | My nvidia gefore only started locking up cpu at 99.X% yesterday - is there any log entries I might use to determine what the fault is? |
| 21:19.07 | CAiRO | hmm, after just logging out i can't log in to my gnome session again.. if i log in (through gdm) i just get a black screen and a mouse pointer and nothing happens.. |
| 21:19.08 | goron | bucky: Well is this all the performance I can expect from Debian? |
| 21:19.17 | CAiRO | what could be the cause |
| 21:19.19 | CAiRO | ? |
| 21:19.28 | predius_ | CAiRO: Xorg.0.log? |
| 21:19.37 | bucky | goron: well if you can't tell me which video drivers you are using then.. yes |
| 21:19.41 | goron | bucky: nvidia |
| 21:19.41 | predius_ | /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 21:19.51 | goron | bucky: 7124 |
| 21:19.57 | predius_ | CasaNova__: I meant you. |
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| 21:20.49 | goron | bucky: Or to be more precise: 7124-3. |
| 21:20.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: why do so many bubbles make my brain feel like explode like a bubble? |
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| 21:21.02 | CasaNova__ | predius_ Now to wait for it to lock cpu (im running tail -f /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 21:21.03 | CAiRO | predius_: why do you think this could be an xorg problem? after all gdm works find which also starts an xserver and i get a black screen and a mouse pointer (certainly the xserver) and i can run other session (other than gnome) without problems |
| 21:21.12 | abrotman | tarzeau: too much bubbly :) |
| 21:21.17 | goron | Oh, I see that are ancient drivers. |
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| 21:21.36 | predius_ | CAiRO: Wrong person, I meant CasaNova__ |
| 21:21.40 | goron | abrotman: Can I install the newest drivers from nvidia.com on stable from source, without breaking anything? |
| 21:21.57 | abrotman | goron: dunno . i avoid nvidia |
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| 21:22.22 | goron | abrotman: Since you do not use 3d graphics? |
| 21:22.23 | blondie | LOL |
| 21:22.48 | CasaNova__ | Anyone else having xorg lock up cpu at 99% with etch using nvidia drivers? (and what did you do to stop it :-) |
| 21:22.59 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you know if someone takes the sheep, all bonuses gets extracted twice from the scores, of all dragons! |
| 21:23.05 | tarzeau | cddesjar: i took the sheep. LOL |
| 21:23.06 | abrotman | goron: no .. i do |
| 21:23.23 | abrotman | goron: you know that more than just nvidia makes 3d cards .. right ? |
| 21:23.32 | goron | abrotman: Then there's ATI. But that also s*cks. So, what do you use? |
| 21:23.33 | mzilikazi64 | Sid, nvidia-7676, & xorg are flawless here |
| 21:23.42 | mzilikazi64 | never have problems w/ nvidia |
| 21:23.45 | abrotman | goron: no .. there are others |
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| 21:23.57 | predius_ | CasaNova__: are you running xscreensaver? |
| 21:24.02 | goron | abrotman: With decent performance comparable with nvidia's? |
| 21:24.14 | CasaNova__ | I never had a single problem until yesterday - now xorg locks cpu at 99% every few minutes after restarting X... |
| 21:24.15 | abrotman | goron: good enough to play games .. |
| 21:24.17 | blondie | abrotman doesn't use X |
| 21:24.17 | blondie | just console |
| 21:24.22 | CasaNova__ | predius ! Yes... |
| 21:24.22 | abrotman | sure i do |
| 21:24.27 | cbr | mzilikazi64: 7676 fails for me :S |
| 21:24.29 | predius_ | CasaNova__: try closing it. |
| 21:24.29 | newbie_ | hi all.. running php v4.3.10 on apache2 and sarge. can someone tell me which packages need to be aptituded to upgrade php to current release? |
| 21:24.29 | dpkg | Long days and pleasant nights, sai all.. running php v4.3.10 on apache2 and sarge. can someone tell me which packages need to be aptituded to upgrade php to current release! |
| 21:24.31 | blondie | VT100 |
| 21:24.48 | CasaNova__ | predius_ I've run X screensaver regularly for months - was there a recent upgrade? |
| 21:24.54 | mzilikazi64 | cbr built w/ module assistant? |
| 21:24.58 | cbr | mzilikazi64: yes |
| 21:25.01 | goron | abrotman: Ok, then what is the best alternative money can buy? |
| 21:25.05 | cbr | it just fails on X startup |
| 21:25.23 | predius_ | CasaNova__: I had the same problem, that fixed it. |
| 21:25.25 | CasaNova__ | predius_: The lockup happens even when I am working on desktop though...? |
| 21:25.27 | predius_ | dunno why |
| 21:25.29 | tarzeau | goron: alternative money? |
| 21:25.38 | abrotman | goron: you could buy nvidia .. and open source the driver |
| 21:25.44 | CasaNova__ | predius_ Not sure hwat you mean close it (/etc/init.d/Xscreensaver - stop?) |
| 21:26.03 | predius_ | CasaNova__: stop the daemon |
| 21:26.04 | goron | abrotman: Ok, not that much money. |
| 21:26.06 | abrotman | goron: ask #dri which they might recommend |
| 21:26.17 | goron | abrotman: Ok, what do you use? |
| 21:26.35 | abrotman | goron: there's an intel in my laptop .. and i can play afaik . every GL game in debian .. |
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| 21:26.44 | abrotman | goron: that's what i'm on right now |
| 21:26.44 | tarzeau | damn is the grey dragon stupid |
| 21:26.50 | tarzeau | cddesjar: BONUS! |
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| 21:26.52 | abrotman | i've used matrox in the past |
| 21:27.03 | tarzeau | cddesjar: JUMP! |
| 21:27.04 | CasaNova__ | predius_ Did your lock up only when it went to screensaver or sometimes jsut at desktop ( I locvk up even while reading webpages or browsing.. etc |
| 21:27.11 | goron | abrotman: I really can't imagine you could play UT2004 on that. |
| 21:27.11 | abrotman | of course . when i was on the matrox .. my 2d was more important than 3d .. |
| 21:27.20 | xiaogil | hi |
| 21:27.24 | abrotman | goron: is UT2004 in debian .. no . .then why the fuck does it matter ? |
| 21:27.26 | predius_ | CasaNova__: it stayed at 90~ cpu usage |
| 21:27.37 | xiaogil | is it possible to resume an upload with scp ? |
| 21:27.47 | goron | abrotman: Well, I like games that are more complex than supertux. |
| 21:28.02 | goron | abrotman: Seems there are other people with the same feelings. |
| 21:28.05 | abrotman | goron: nor have i tried UT2004 .. though i know it plays .. uhm . .some version of quake :) |
| 21:28.07 | CasaNova__ | predius_: What I meant was at what point did the cpu jump - when screen went to screensaver or did it do it when you were on desktop actively working? |
| 21:28.19 | abrotman | goron: then don't bitch and whine about your crappy nvidia things |
| 21:28.26 | predius_ | CasaNova__: no, all the time |
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| 21:28.30 | Nostur | hi all |
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| 21:29.02 | Nostur | anyone knows, where in /dev is located cdrom? i cant find it |
| 21:29.10 | blondie | maybe you don't have it |
| 21:29.15 | goron | abrotman: I will just install the newest drivers and see whether that gets me acceptable performace, or I will use the FreeBSD kernel. |
| 21:29.22 | blondie | hdc could be your cd drive |
| 21:29.30 | Nostur | thanks |
| 21:29.35 | CasaNova__ | predius_: That must be recent -- I've had 0 troubles with xscreensaver for months but I did run aptitude update/upgrade yesterday -- How do I tell what was updated in my last aptitude upgrade - is a log kept? |
| 21:29.56 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: ah, the stupid autorespond on hi thing again. |
| 21:29.57 | newbie_ | getting this error: how do I fix: |
| 21:29.57 | newbie_ | dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package `apache2-utils' missing, assuming package has no files currently installed. |
| 21:30.00 | abrotman | wtf was that all aobut ? |
| 21:30.13 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: reinstall apache2-utils |
| 21:30.20 | tarzeau | cddesjar: hahahaha crazy eh ? :) LOL |
| 21:30.26 | SimonRaven | dondelelcaro: yeh |
| 21:30.29 | cddesjar | tarzeau: it is |
| 21:30.29 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: and figure out why the files list for apache2-utils has gotten blasted away. |
| 21:30.30 | Nostur | blondie: but if i dont have hdc in there? |
| 21:30.32 | tarzeau | cddesjar: good night |
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| 21:30.41 | cddesjar | tarzeau: you too |
| 21:30.50 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: just "apt-get reinstall apache2-utils" ? |
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| 21:31.55 | cddesjar | tarzeau: crazy game...what a blast though...i don't even know what's going on half the time |
| 21:32.04 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: apt-get --reinstall install apache2-utils |
| 21:32.05 | predius_ | cddesjar: what game? |
| 21:32.25 | cddesjar | predius_: something to do with bubbles |
| 21:32.28 | Nostur | anyone can tell me, where in /dev is my cdrom? hdc is not it |
| 21:32.29 | cddesjar | bubbob maybe? |
| 21:32.47 | cddesjar | predius_: ask tarzeau if he's still here |
| 21:32.53 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: thanks, don. you're the best. |
| 21:33.00 | tarzeau | predius_: http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
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| 21:33.03 | cddesjar | predius_: just wasted two hours when i should have been working ;) |
| 21:33.09 | tarzeau | cddesjar: check the online documentation, all items explained |
| 21:33.14 | predius_ | someone package it |
| 21:33.16 | predius_ | boo |
| 21:33.20 | CasaNova__ | OK I know i have th Xscreensaver daemon runnignn and I can stop it from a menu in Gnome but how to stop it from CLI? I cant seem to find it in ps-ef |
| 21:33.23 | cddesjar | tarzeau: ok...we'll have to play again soon |
| 21:33.28 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: do you recommend I upgrade to php5 |
| 21:33.31 | tarzeau | cddesjar: i got screenshots of all diferent bonus games: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bubnbros/ |
| 21:33.34 | Nostur | anyone can tell me, where in /dev is my cdrom? hdc is not it |
| 21:33.43 | tarzeau | cddesjar: tomorrow night, that was dreamland, there's 300 more levels ;) |
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| 21:33.52 | tarzeau | cddesjar: lemmings one is sooo cute! |
| 21:33.55 | cddesjar | tarzeau: cool |
| 21:34.03 | tarzeau | cddesjar: you must bubble lemmings and get them to the sky/heaven |
| 21:34.05 | valdyn | Nostur: uname -r |
| 21:34.06 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: heh. my true opinion on php is unprintable. Regardless, if you don't have a real reason to do so, no real point. If you do, find a backport and install it. |
| 21:34.26 | tarzeau | hahah http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bubnbros/lemmings.png |
| 21:34.35 | Nostur | valdyn: whatt it will do? iam kinda new to linux too |
| 21:34.36 | cddesjar | tarzeau: cute |
| 21:34.52 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: okay, that makes sense. But i'm only running php4.3.10, and would like the most current pre-5.0 version then? |
| 21:34.55 | valdyn | Nostur: show your kernel's version |
| 21:34.56 | tarzeau | cddesjar: 10 dragons: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/people/bubnbros/bubtoomuch2full.png |
| 21:35.14 | Nostur | valdyn: yea, i see, but i need to know where in /dev is cdrom :/ |
| 21:35.27 | dondelelcaro | newbie_: the version that is in stable is the version that has security fixes et al. If you're running in production, that's the one you want. |
| 21:35.28 | cddesjar | tarzeau: how do you even know what's going on with 10 dragons on the screen? |
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| 21:35.39 | tarzeau | cddesjar: just concentrate on your color ;) |
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| 21:35.42 | edrin | hi |
| 21:36.05 | valdyn | Nostur: Im not going to bother assisting you if I have to argue about getting required information with you |
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| 21:36.13 | beefcake | anyone ever encountered on moving between disks that pdflush starts going crazy, using close to 100% cpu? |
| 21:36.28 | Nostur | valdyn: ok, my kernel is 2.6.9 |
| 21:36.44 | edrin | my pc has two soundcards, one onboard and one pci. as alsa sometimes uses the one as default and sometimes the other one i want to set the pci card as default. how can i do this? |
| 21:36.46 | valdyn | Nostur: is that what uname -r sais? |
| 21:36.48 | newbie_ | dondelelcaro: okay.. i'll sit still now. :) thanks |
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| 21:36.59 | valdyn | Nostur: -> that isnt a debian kernel |
| 21:36.59 | Nostur | valdyn: yes |
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| 21:37.23 | Nostur | valdyn: but i have debian, and uname -r says this |
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| 21:38.00 | nixie | Nostur: what does dpkg -l | grep kernel-im say? |
| 21:38.28 | Nostur | nixie: nothing |
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| 21:38.47 | edrin | my pc has two soundcards, one onboard and one pci. as alsa sometimes uses the one as default and sometimes the other one i want to set the pci card as default. how can i do this? |
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| 21:38.52 | Nostur | nixie: like nothing matchs |
| 21:39.06 | tarzeau | edrin: turn the onboard one off in the bios? |
| 21:39.10 | CorrsFan | Nostur: and 'dpkg -l |grep linux-image' |
| 21:39.13 | goron | Now, there's an API mismatch between the one(nvidia-driver) the kernel is configured for and the one the X-server uses. |
| 21:39.25 | edrin | tarzeau: there is no option for this :/ |
| 21:39.30 | tarzeau | edrin: your bios sucks |
| 21:39.35 | tarzeau | edrin: like all pc bios ;) |
| 21:39.39 | Nostur | CorrsFan: nothing again |
| 21:39.40 | goron | I just want to run the newest drivers on Stable, or did somebody backport that? |
| 21:39.57 | CorrsFan | Nostur: then you're not running a Debian kernel :) |
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| 21:40.40 | Nostur | CorrsFan: eh, kinda weird, if iam looking @ install CD right now, just toke it out from cdrom |
| 21:40.40 | valdyn | Nostur: 'lsmod | grep ide_cd' and try also: lsmod | grep ide_scsi |
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| 21:41.29 | Nostur | ide_cd 36896 0 this is from lsmod | grep ide_cd and the second shows nothing |
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| 21:42.12 | valdyn | Nostur: great, ls /proc/ide/ |
| 21:42.18 | nixie | Nostur: what does this command tell you: grep hd[a-z] /var/log/dmesg |
| 21:42.32 | goron | Never mind, I fixed it myself. |
| 21:42.38 | nixie | you should see your cdrom listed there. |
| 21:42.38 | Nostur | valdyn: thanks, i have there a hdc |
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| 21:42.55 | Nostur | nixie: i have it in /proc/ide |
| 21:43.16 | valdyn | Nostur: cat /proc/ide/hdc/media tells you 'cdrom' I guess |
| 21:43.31 | edrin | me goes to bed |
| 21:43.33 | edrin | night |
| 21:43.48 | Nostur | valdyn: for sure, thanks |
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| 21:45.36 | Nostur | valdyn: but how i can mount it? it tells me that its not block device |
| 21:45.53 | valdyn | Nostur: is a cdrom inserted? |
| 21:46.13 | valdyn | Nostur: ls -l /dev/hdc |
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| 21:46.27 | ac3 | My debian thinks sunday is the first day of the week. How can i change this to monday? |
| 21:46.56 | blondie | sunday *is* the first day of the week |
| 21:46.57 | Nostur | valdyn: nvm, i have it, i mistyped |
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| 21:47.14 | tarzeau | ac3: where do you live? |
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| 21:47.19 | thma | i have Debian 3.1r0a and i need the kernel source. Is it on the DVD and where? |
| 21:47.21 | Nostur | and music is found :) |
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| 21:47.24 | ac3 | Belgium |
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| 21:47.35 | blondie | you don't even have sunday there |
| 21:47.41 | ac3 | hehe |
| 21:47.41 | tarzeau | my week has only sundays |
| 21:47.44 | blondie | it's like dimanche or something |
| 21:48.21 | ac3 | no, maandag:) |
| 21:48.34 | ac3 | i´m dutch, not french |
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| 21:48.47 | blondie | why don't you live in holland then |
| 21:49.13 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:49.13 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. |
| 21:49.14 | Tortel | !Dutch |
| 21:49.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, dutch is soome straangje laanguaage daat sussudio kjeeps spjeeaaking, or #debian.nl |
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| 21:49.35 | jfil | i asked it before yesterday, maybe anyone using debian could help me so i repeat my problem: no matter fluxbox version and X server is working ok but fluxbox doesnt look like i want, fonts i mean, until i dont "restart" fluxbox from menu. can u help me? any idea? really strange problem... i start it from .xsession with "exec startfluxbox" and maybe you could give me any option to make fluxbox start in the same way as it restarts (sorry |
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| 21:49.43 | predius_ | cddesjar: are you on a server? |
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| 21:49.55 | tarzeau | jfil: can you make screenshots? |
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| 21:50.21 | jfil | tarzeau: do u use fluxbox |
| 21:50.31 | tarzeau | jfil: no i use wmaker/gnustep and amiwm |
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| 21:50.54 | tarzeau | jfil: i've tried it though, and i didn't like it |
| 21:50.59 | jfil | i really dont know what can be happening cause everything seems to be ok when i restart: fonts become smaller and looks really nice. one solution is easy: to restart it everytime i start, but there must be any other most elegant solution ;) tarzeau |
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| 21:51.22 | predius_ | jfil: can you try not using startfluxbox? |
| 21:51.22 | tarzeau | jfil: yes make a screenshot of right/wrong fonts |
| 21:51.29 | tarzeau | jfil: and then we might understand what's wrong |
| 21:51.29 | predius_ | just fluxbox? |
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| 21:51.44 | Nostur | can u tell me cmd to get list of running processes with its pid's ? |
| 21:51.48 | predius_ | and what tarzeau says you should do. |
| 21:51.54 | predius_ | Nostur: top and ps |
| 21:51.59 | Nostur | thx |
| 21:52.00 | predius_ | ps aux |
| 21:52.12 | jfil | predius_: what's the difference? i think i tried it before with same result |
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| 21:52.37 | goron | What can I do to increase speed further besides buying new hardware? I have the newest drivers, and a 2.6.8-k7 kernel. |
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| 21:52.47 | tarzeau | goron: what speed? |
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| 21:52.58 | predius_ | jfil: no idea, I just open it with fluxbox and it works. |
| 21:52.59 | tarzeau | goron: how much memory? what software? |
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| 21:53.03 | valdyn | goron: for ut2004? |
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| 21:53.09 | goron | valdyn: yes |
| 21:53.22 | valdyn | goron: gfx card, cpu, ram ? |
| 21:53.26 | jfil | predius_: u get antialiased fonts from the beginning, when u exec fluxbox? |
| 21:53.41 | jfil | no need to restart? predius_ |
| 21:53.49 | goron | valdyn: 2800+ XP, 1GB(333), DiamondMax 9 160GB |
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| 21:53.52 | predius_ | jfil: get those screenshots |
| 21:54.04 | valdyn | goron: see no gfx hardware. |
| 21:54.12 | goron | valdyn: 5900XT |
| 21:54.25 | goron | valdyn: sorry |
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| 21:55.18 | valdyn | goron: hmmm , if i remember right ut2004 just wont run perfectly on that |
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| 21:55.38 | valdyn | goron: ( i dont know if that nvidia card could be the culprit ) |
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| 21:56.01 | thma | where can i get kernel-source-2.4.27.tar.bz2 |
| 21:56.03 | goron | valdyn: you mean on Debian or in general? |
| 21:56.10 | valdyn | goron: general |
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| 21:56.21 | goron | valdyn: On FreeBSD it ran great. |
| 21:56.26 | valdyn | goron: ( unless you switch off rendering details... and resolution ) |
| 21:56.41 | valdyn | goron: the OS doesnt do much to the speed there |
| 21:56.43 | mrhunt | does somebody here use skype? |
| 21:56.58 | tarzeau | mrhunt: it's not free |
| 21:57.00 | mrhunt | i've a little problem with it |
| 21:57.04 | tarzeau | mrhunt: ask skype |
| 21:57.06 | goron | valdyn: Full resolution, everything highest, 100 fps in general, with a lot of action >40. |
| 21:57.19 | goron | valdyn: And that's using Linux Emulation. |
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| 21:57.29 | mrhunt | well ... i have a problem with skype, but only under debian |
| 21:57.30 | goron | valdyn: So, there must be *something* wrong. |
| 21:57.32 | nixie | goron: you might want to try compiling a custom kernel and be sure of using the correct agpgart and dri drivers in it |
| 21:57.37 | bucky | thma apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 ? |
| 21:57.46 | valdyn | goron: linux "emuluation" doesnt take any speed |
| 21:57.47 | nixie | goron: make it preemt etcetera |
| 21:57.51 | gpm | hey guys, if i want to copy a dvd movie for burning to a dvd later, can i just dd if=/dev/dvd of=image.iso and write the iso later? |
| 21:58.04 | goron | valdyn: Or is Linux just slow? |
| 21:58.09 | thma | bucky: need source to compile kernel to make NIC work |
| 21:58.10 | tarzeau | gpm: not sure, would readcd work on it? |
| 21:58.16 | bucky | ok |
| 21:58.18 | mrhunt | hrm |
| 21:58.23 | valdyn | goron: no, as i said, the OS has nothing to do with it |
| 21:58.27 | tarzeau | mrhunt: we can't read mind, ask. not like debian can do much about it |
| 21:58.38 | goron | valdyn: Ok, so a custom kernel then? |
| 21:58.42 | gpm | tarzeau: dunno...i've never tried any of this...thought i might ask before possibly wasting time and resources |
| 21:58.42 | valdyn | goron: nor that |
| 21:58.57 | gpm | tarzeau: my concern is the CSS encoding that some of these DVDs have. |
| 21:58.57 | mrhunt | i even know how to discribe the problem |
| 21:58.59 | tarzeau | gpm: no idea, i've never had the need to copy a dvd. |
| 21:59.19 | predius_ | gpm: eh, what's that got to do with anything? |
| 21:59.19 | mrhunt | skype causes an error with unknown reason when connecting |
| 21:59.26 | goron | valdyn: So? |
| 21:59.27 | tarzeau | mrhunt: ask skype |
| 21:59.29 | valdyn | goron: OS-related speed problems in such a case would be something like a dirver bug |
| 21:59.36 | mrhunt | yeah |
| 21:59.42 | gpm | predius_: the CSS stuff? i dunno...so i should be ok using dd? |
| 21:59.47 | predius_ | gpm: yeah |
| 22:00.06 | bucky | thma which nic ? |
| 22:00.33 | thma | Nvidia CK8S |
| 22:00.36 | valdyn | goron: you have the nvidia kernel modules loaded right and its using agpgart, correct? |
| 22:00.40 | bucky | ic |
| 22:01.01 | valdyn | goron: s/modules/module/ ( its just one..) |
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| 22:01.12 | thma | bucky: trying Nvidia installer but it wants source which is NP but i need to knwo where to get it |
| 22:01.16 | CasaNova__ | Darn Darn darn -- xorg is locking cpu at 99.8% again and xscreensaver is not running... nothign on xorg.0.log either... |
| 22:01.21 | bucky | thma apt-get install kernel-source-2.4.27 ? |
| 22:01.23 | |ryan| | gpm: no. you need to remove the encryption |
| 22:01.25 | nixie | valdyn maybe you know whether preempt would affect performance for games? does preempt usage require code in the userspace app or game? |
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| 22:01.36 | valdyn | goron: 'dmesg | grep -i agp' should tell you things |
| 22:01.50 | thma | Bucky: cant get on net untill i get NIC running, cant get NIC running till i have kernel source |
| 22:01.55 | gpm | |ryan|: even if i am just going to write it to a disk and play that as i would the original? |
| 22:01.57 | goron | valdyn: I have nvidia, nvidia_agp, and agpgart. |
| 22:01.58 | |ryan| | gpm: dvdbackup will descamble it |
| 22:02.00 | _john_ | hi, i have some problems in my network; i have a lot of viruses on some PCs and i want to identify the hosts with problems? how could i do that? |
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| 22:02.16 | gpm | |ryan|: why do i need to remove the encryption if i have something that can decode it on my player already? |
| 22:02.18 | |ryan| | gpm: you cannot burn the bits required for CSS decoding |
| 22:02.21 | bucky | thma: kernel.org |
| 22:02.22 | valdyn | nixie: preempt basically trades thruput for latency, no userspace support is required, if anything it can make your average fps lower |
| 22:02.23 | tarzeau | _john_: windows pc? reinstall |
| 22:02.24 | thma | _john_ use clamav |
| 22:02.35 | gpm | |ryan|: why? (just curious) |
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| 22:02.46 | bucky | thma: it's about 60M |
| 22:02.56 | thma | Bucky: is that the same as debian kernel because I know some distros have made changes in kernel for there distro |
| 22:02.58 | valdyn | nixie: though your game experience better as there shouldnt be any 'hangs' in between |
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| 22:03.10 | |ryan| | gpm: to keep people from coping DVDs |
| 22:03.17 | goron | valdyn: There we have it. |
| 22:03.24 | goron | valdyn: Not using NVAGP. |
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| 22:03.34 | goron | valdyn: So, it's using some non optimized AGP. |
| 22:03.37 | valdyn | goron: you dont need to use nvagp |
| 22:03.41 | gpm | |ryan|: so, will dvdbackup leave me with an iso to write to disk, or will i have to mkisofs later on? |
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| 22:03.52 | goron | valdyn: Yes, I do. The difference is a TON. |
| 22:03.55 | valdyn | goron: that isnt any better than in-kernel agp |
| 22:04.04 | valdyn | goron: but sure its better than no agp at all |
| 22:04.06 | goron | valdyn: That's really not true. |
| 22:04.14 | mrtwister | what is name oc C++ compiler in ubuntu and debian? in redhat it is gcc-c++, i want install openh323 on ubuntu.. |
| 22:04.23 | valdyn | goron: you may be right in special cases, just not generally |
| 22:04.37 | nixie | mrtwister: g++? |
| 22:04.40 | goron | valdyn: Ok, could be. But for UT2004 it *does* matter. |
| 22:04.53 | valdyn | goron: try it.. |
| 22:04.59 | bucky | thma: it's the same.. but i like to cp /boot/config-2.4.27 /usr/src/linux/.config and make bzImage before adding a custom driver YMMV |
| 22:05.01 | mrtwister | nixie, no, still ./configure tell about errors |
| 22:05.13 | goron | valdyn: How do I get rid of the other AGP module(?) ) |
| 22:05.15 | goron | valdyn: ? |
| 22:05.39 | CasaNova__ | gpm: I dont have website handy but if you google machiner and dvdshrink he has very good dvd backup tutorial that is debina specific.... |
| 22:05.44 | nixie | goron: thats why i prefer custom kernels. but i guess you'll have to blacklist the normal modules you don't want to be autoloaded |
| 22:05.45 | valdyn | goron: stop X, remove the agp modules, edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ( or XF86Config-4 ) as documented by nvidia |
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| 22:06.20 | goron | valdyn: How do I know what agp module to remove? |
| 22:06.43 | nixie | gordon: what chipset does your motherboard have? |
| 22:06.46 | valdyn | goron: there's 2, 'agpgart' and something else specific to your hardware |
| 22:06.52 | gpm | CasaNova__: thanks |
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| 22:07.04 | goron | valdyn: So, I don't even need a kernel recompile? Neat. |
| 22:07.24 | difeta | whats the program that lets me run make install, and rather than installing from source, i creates a binary bpacking for my distro? |
| 22:07.37 | predius_ | difeta: checkinstall |
| 22:07.45 | difeta | thank! |
| 22:07.52 | CasaNova__ | I have an nvidia 6800Gt and xorg jsut started locking up cpu at 100% yesterday. Any ideas on what to troubleshoot to get it to stop? |
| 22:07.59 | valdyn | goron: it should be the nvidia modules that triggers loading of your agp drivers iirc, if you set the nvidia driver to use its own agp support that shouldnt happen ( iirc ) |
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| 22:08.15 | CasaNova__ | I run nvidia drivers and just reran single line installer 2.6.12-1-686 kernel... |
| 22:08.20 | predius_ | oye |
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| 22:08.25 | predius_ | argh |
| 22:08.26 | predius_ | again |
| 22:08.37 | goron | valdyn: I can't find that AGP module that needs to be removed. I looked in /lib/somedirs/video |
| 22:08.49 | valdyn | goron: lsmod | grep agp |
| 22:08.53 | CasaNova__ | predius_ Aye - I ran to store and came back and gdm was locked at 99.8% again! No daemon runnign this time! |
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| 22:09.12 | predius_ | CasaNova__: then its a gdm bug, probably. |
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| 22:09.47 | goron | valdyn: I know it's name, but that doesn't give me its path. |
| 22:09.50 | VeliuX | hello, i have a compaq ipaq, its old, i cant find drivers for it, it doesnt have a cdrom drive, nor a floppy, i was wondering how ever could i take out the hard drive and install debian on a diff computer, then take out the hard drive and put it in the compaq ipaq? |
| 22:09.52 | VeliuX | would that work? |
| 22:10.03 | CasaNova__ | predius_: the line that is in top is xorg.... |
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| 22:10.07 | valdyn | goron: oh i didnt mean you should delete the file, run 'modprobe -r <module> |
| 22:10.33 | goron | valdyn: But I don't want to do that everytime, so there must be a configuration location for that. |
| 22:10.34 | CasaNova__ | This just started yeesterday - Is there any way to tell what packages were upgraded on my last aptitude upgrade? |
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| 22:11.17 | Fisu | How do I extract a .deb ? (on Gentoo..) |
| 22:11.28 | fbi | !pal fisu |
| 22:11.39 | predius_ | haha |
| 22:11.46 | toomasr | CasaNova__, /var/cache/apt/archives, you can check which packages were dloaded by checking the times |
| 22:11.52 | nixie | goron: you'll have to blacklist the normal modules you don't want to be autoloaded. find /etc -name blacklist* and add the module names there which you dont want to load at startup. (hotplug/discover) |
| 22:11.55 | CasaNova__ | toomasr: thanks |
| 22:12.03 | valdyn | goron: /lastog nvidia |
| 22:12.07 | valdyn | goron: /lastlog nvidia |
| 22:12.12 | Fisu | Not too helpful now are we? |
| 22:12.46 | valdyn | Fisu: with ar |
| 22:12.51 | SimonRaven | CasaNova__: aptitude has a log, /var/log/aptitude |
| 22:13.00 | predius_ | Fisu: http://packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=alien |
| 22:13.18 | goron | valdyn: I can't unload it, since it's "in use". |
| 22:13.37 | goron | valdyn: and yes, I killed the X server |
| 22:13.41 | VeliuX | i know installing windows 2000 on the harddrive on a diff computer, then switching the harddrive i installed win2k on to the ipaq didnt work it complained that the ntldr was missing so now i want to try debian on it..? |
| 22:13.45 | CasaNova__ | Odd - not a single package in /var/cache/apt/archives has a date in Dec... |
| 22:14.00 | nixie | goron: blacklist modules, reboot, rejoice |
| 22:14.06 | goron | nixie: ok |
| 22:14.17 | SimonRaven | Fisu: ar p file.deb data.tar.gz | tar zx |
| 22:14.23 | fbi | VeliuX: insert sarge net-install cd ; reboot |
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| 22:14.51 | predius_ | VeliuX: /msg dpkg install debian |
| 22:15.11 | fbi | !d-i |
| 22:15.11 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 22:15.11 | Fisu | Thank you all. I figured it out already now that I was given the tool. |
| 22:15.36 | VeliuX | fbi: so i can if i hook up the harddrive on a diff computer and install debian, then once debian is installed put the harddrive in the ipaq and debian should load?, cause the ipaq doesnt have a cdrom nor floppy\ |
| 22:15.44 | SimonRaven | CasaNova__: aptitude has a log, /var/log/aptitude |
| 22:15.51 | SimonRaven | CasaNova__: aptitude has a log, /var/log/aptitude |
| 22:16.13 | SimonRaven | r..reboot? |
| 22:16.24 | ansong | could someone help me figure out how to enable iso burning in testing? |
| 22:16.35 | Tortel | gnome baker? |
| 22:16.41 | Tortel | k3b backport? |
| 22:16.53 | bucky | cdrecord |
| 22:17.00 | Tortel | ..and that... |
| 22:17.04 | fbi | VeliuX: i have no idea. how are you putting a hard disk from your pc in your ipaq ? |
| 22:17.07 | bucky | hi Tortel ! |
| 22:17.10 | Tortel | hi |
| 22:17.12 | Tortel | ? |
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| 22:17.15 | SimonRaven | the first 2 use the latter as backend... |
| 22:17.17 | CasaNova__ | Hey if you get cdrecord working in testing let me knwo Its been heck for me! |
| 22:17.20 | ansong | k3b is uninstallable (haven't tried the backport), graveman tries to burn and then segfaults, xcdroast can't find any devices, neither can cdrecord or cdrdao |
| 22:17.22 | VeliuX | just unhooking it\ |
| 22:17.32 | VeliuX | its the harddrive in the ipaq |
| 22:17.38 | bucky | !seen ShockSMX |
| 22:17.39 | dpkg | shocksmx is currently on #debian (19h 38m 44s) |
| 22:17.46 | VeliuX | i cant install debian while its in the ipaq cause it has no cdrom nor floppy\ |
| 22:17.47 | Tortel | !seem Tortel |
| 22:17.49 | Tortel | oops |
| 22:17.49 | VeliuX | its an IDE |
| 22:17.52 | Tortel | !seen Tortel |
| 22:17.53 | dpkg | tortel is currently on #debian (19h 39m 11s). Has said a total of 27 messages. Is idling for 0s |
| 22:17.53 | fbi | VeliuX: i don't know. i don't mess with tiny pcs because they suck. |
| 22:18.02 | VeliuX | ugh\ |
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| 22:18.09 | sls | hey... where can I launc scrips for each user that logs on to the system? |
| 22:18.10 | cddesjar | ansong: cdrecord --scanbus dev=ATAPI |
| 22:18.14 | cddesjar | ansong: see what says |
| 22:18.19 | VeliuX | i realise this |
| 22:18.21 | ansong | cddesjar, trying |
| 22:18.27 | CasaNova__ | So saturday I upgraded and got new alsa base and some python libs and cupsys and ftp - Now xorg keeps locking up - nothign seems to deal with X though.... |
| 22:18.29 | predius_ | VeliuX: you can use a netinstall |
| 22:18.33 | predius_ | by nfs |
| 22:18.54 | SimonRaven | FFS! |
| 22:19.04 | VeliuX | i plan on useing a netinstall iso, |
| 22:19.08 | VeliuX | im downloading one now |
| 22:19.12 | ansong | cddesjar, shall i paste the output into #flood? |
| 22:19.23 | cddesjar | sure |
| 22:19.35 | raden | there a php5 base package for debian |
| 22:19.35 | VeliuX | i just got to figure out if i install it on my good pc, then take out the hdd, and put it in the ipaq, if it would work? |
| 22:19.49 | ravenbird | abrotman: cock! |
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| 22:20.13 | bucky | VeliuX: businesscard CD image ? |
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| 22:20.27 | stanly | hell |
| 22:20.32 | VeliuX | the minimal cd bucky |
| 22:20.32 | stanly | er hello |
| 22:20.32 | dondelelcaro | VeliuX: last time I checked, the ipaq was arm based, so you won't be able to install it on your pc. |
| 22:20.38 | bobesponja | is the c++ (c2 ->c2a) transition done in sid? |
| 22:20.42 | VeliuX | no it has a pentium 3 |
| 22:20.44 | VeliuX | 500 mhz |
| 22:20.48 | VeliuX | 256mb ram\ |
| 22:20.51 | VeliuX | compaq ipaq |
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| 22:20.55 | levander | Anybody know where to buy the Samsung Spinpoint SATA 250 GB drive? It's getting good reviews, but I can't find the SATA version online. |
| 22:21.11 | VeliuX | win 98 will run on it, but its glitchy |
| 22:21.17 | goron | agpgart is just loaded, while I listed it in the blacklist file... |
| 22:21.20 | stanly | im trying to get dual display going with xorg - it somewhat works... the 2 different monitors are coming up, but they both have the mouse point on it |
| 22:21.28 | stanly | and it doesn't give me 2 different displays |
| 22:21.50 | CasaNova__ | I pasted theose apps upgraded just before my xorg started locking in flood? Anyone have ideas why xorg might be locking now? |
| 22:22.07 | ansong | cddesjar, everything worked the last time i burned an iso, the kernel hasn't changed |
| 22:22.21 | fbi | stanly: you have two totally separate monitor sections in xorg.conf? |
| 22:22.27 | stanly | fbi, yep |
| 22:22.38 | fbi | stanly: stick your xorg.conf on a paster |
| 22:22.43 | goron | valdyn: Can't I really physically remove the agpgart driver somehow? |
| 22:22.58 | raden | is there a way with debian to upgrade when new verision come out online |
| 22:23.07 | dondelelcaro | !debian mantra |
| 22:23.07 | dpkg | somebody said debian mantra was "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" |
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| 22:23.23 | fbi | i always add && apt-get clean to that |
| 22:23.36 | fbi | don't know why really |
| 22:23.43 | fbi | not like i am short on disk space |
| 22:24.03 | stanly | fbi, http://boers.ca/~dan/xorg.conf |
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| 22:24.13 | bucky | levander: are you sure they make a 250G all i can find is a 200 http://tinyurl.com/bhr2s |
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| 22:24.32 | dondelelcaro | fbi: the primary reason why you generally don't is so that you'll have the previous version around in case you need it to downgrade or something.... |
| 22:24.49 | dondelelcaro | (sometime later, you can always go apt-get autoclean) |
| 22:25.15 | fbi | yeah |
| 22:25.39 | fbi | stanly: first thing i see is in the first Monitor section, where are the sync ranges |
| 22:25.50 | fbi | you only have two lines in that entire section |
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| 22:26.16 | CasaNova__ | It seems that all the KDE apps are Held Back - is there any explanation of this on a link or dpkg suggestion? |
| 22:26.27 | stanly | fbi, it works though |
| 22:26.29 | goron | How can I get rid of that agpgart module? |
| 22:26.52 | goron | Unloading it with blacklisting doesn't work. |
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| 22:27.01 | goron | (after a reboot) |
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| 22:27.05 | predius_ | stanly: does the card have two video outs? |
| 22:27.05 | stanly | fbi, the first monitor is the LCD display of my laptop |
| 22:27.20 | stanly | predius_, its a laptop, so it has the builtin, and then the monitor out |
| 22:27.22 | goron | Neither does modprobe -r agpgart |
| 22:27.25 | predius_ | i see that both Generic Video Card 1 and 2 have the same BusID |
| 22:27.47 | fbi | stanly: i'm pretty sure you need to have those sections named diffrerently also |
| 22:27.54 | bucky | goron are you in a gui? |
| 22:27.55 | fbi | Monitor0, Monitor1 etc. |
| 22:27.58 | predius_ | fbi: no. |
| 22:27.59 | goron | bucky: no |
| 22:28.01 | fbi | you should ask gravity when he's about |
| 22:28.12 | predius_ | it's the identifier which needs to be differebt., |
| 22:28.24 | stanly | fbi, the first monitor is the LCD display of my laptop, the second is a real monitor |
| 22:29.00 | bucky | hmm.. sometimes i haven't been able to blacklist or rmmod a module loaded by an initrd.img |
| 22:29.06 | CasaNova__ | Wow what happened to VLC in testing? |
| 22:29.07 | predius_ | stanly: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/installation/dualheadhowto.htm |
| 22:29.25 | stanly | predius_, that is what I was looking at |
| 22:29.45 | CasaNova__ | I just manually installed abiword gnome and nwo ALL the KDE apps that were held back will upgrade!!! |
| 22:29.55 | fbi | i don't know. the only time i have ran dual head i was running two of the exact same lcd |
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| 22:30.15 | newuser11 | i need help |
| 22:30.19 | predius_ | stanly: read the server layout part again. |
| 22:30.22 | levander | bucky: tomshardware.com says there's a 250 GB SATA: http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20050427/index.html - the platters on that model are 125 GB |
| 22:30.22 | newuser11 | i cant make more than 2 partitions |
| 22:30.29 | newuser11 | while installing debian |
| 22:30.35 | dondelelcaro | newuser11: sure you can. |
| 22:30.44 | predius_ | dondelelcaro: heh |
| 22:30.46 | goron | Nobody knows how I can delete the agpgart driver? |
| 22:30.53 | predius_ | goron: rmmod? |
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| 22:31.06 | newuser11 | 1 for /boot/ and 1 for /swap |
| 22:31.10 | bucky | goron: your xorg.conf or XFree86-4.conf can tell it to load agppart or the nvidia one usually |
| 22:31.19 | newuser11 | i couldnt make /home or / and i still have 409 GB free space on my disk |
| 22:31.23 | levander | bucky: maybe you're right though, maybe there's not a 250 gb and i'm misreading tomshardware.com |
| 22:31.29 | newuser11 | it says unusable <-- |
| 22:31.38 | bucky | levander: tomshardware.com gets everything before anyone else |
| 22:31.46 | goron | bucky: Tell me something I don't know. |
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| 22:31.57 | goron | predius_: that's an alias for modprobe -r |
| 22:32.00 | bucky | goron: mine works fine |
| 22:32.05 | goron | predius_: aka useless. |
| 22:32.08 | bucky | did you know that/ |
| 22:32.20 | levander | bucky: that article was written back in april though |
| 22:32.30 | bucky | levander: url? |
| 22:32.36 | zamsler | Quck question.. Customer of mine has a mail server with postfix and courier-pop/imap on it and it has squirrelmail. It was hacked. They reloaded it and it got hacked again. Hackers are using it to send the paypal e-mails. Anyone know of a security issues? |
| 22:32.48 | stanly | predius_, I've made it exactly like the xorg.conf file, cept with my monitor information, and it still does the same thing |
| 22:32.57 | newuser11 | what does unusable means? i cant make more paritions? while i still have 40 GB free space |
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| 22:33.42 | goron | bucky: What card did you have exactly? |
| 22:33.56 | levander | bucky: http://www.tomshardware.com/storage/20050427/index.html |
| 22:33.58 | bucky | i already told you |
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| 22:34.38 | CVirus | guys when I start a new session of KDE .. the sound server cant be initialized in it as it is used by the first session .. is there a work round for this ?! |
| 22:34.42 | CasaNova__ | Any easy to understadn links on differences between NV and NVIDIA drivers - I run nvidia to get dual monitor and good 3d aceleration for games. But yesterday it started locking - If I change driver to 'nv' My displays wont even display... Same dual monitor settigns.... |
| 22:34.53 | goron | bucky: I have Option NVAGP "1", that should work. |
| 22:35.17 | newuser11 | :( |
| 22:35.33 | bucky | levander: google for SP2504C and you'll see three vendors at the top.. none of which i really know or trust |
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| 22:36.36 | bucky | sounds like a nice drive 3 Gb/s |
| 22:36.59 | levander | bucky: yeah, and the all want quite a bit more for the SATA drive, the SATA drive must not be selling nearly as well as the ATA one for some reason, maybe the market's not there for the SATA drives yet |
| 22:37.44 | bucky | levander: you're going to pay top dollar for the newest, highest performing hardware |
| 22:37.48 | levander | bucky: with this information, think i'm just gonna get the 200gb SATA from newegg, i'm giving up 50gb, but all things considered... it's still a good deal at 90 bucks |
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| 22:37.59 | linoleum | hello, I would like to know if there is a way to make symbolic link between package : for exemple, I have "a" package that is the same as "b" ... "c" package need "b" ... how can set up apt to have the "a" package looks like "b" ?? |
| 22:38.03 | bucky | levander: yeah.. that is a good deal! |
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| 22:38.17 | CasaNova__ | Man vlc is my favorite video player - any ideas on what is up with VLC in Etch? |
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| 22:38.22 | levander | bucky: the 250gb ATA that came out at the same time is only $100, and newegg doesn't even sell the sata, i'm thinking it's more than it just being the latest and greatest |
| 22:38.36 | Guerin | linoleum: you can build packages to satisfy dependencies with equivs |
| 22:38.43 | Guerin | levander: ftbfs |
| 22:38.46 | thingfish | 250GB for only $100? That sounds good. |
| 22:38.56 | levander | bucky: hard drive prices have nose dived in the last month i've noticed, hence the great deals |
| 22:38.59 | bucky | levander: i paid a lot more for a raptor |
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| 22:39.01 | thingfish | boy I guess. |
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| 22:39.10 | SimonRaven | what FTBFSed? |
| 22:39.17 | sobersabre | hi. |
| 22:39.24 | Guerin | levander: you can bfs yourself, though; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 22:39.27 | Guerin | sobersabre: vlc |
| 22:39.30 | Guerin | SimonRaven: vlc |
| 22:39.31 | thingfish | !beer sobersabre |
| 22:39.31 | levander | bucky: you prolly bought it a few months ago, check the price again, i bet raptor's have nose dived as well |
| 22:39.44 | SimonRaven | oh |
| 22:39.44 | thingfish | wth is Dogfishhead 90min IPA? |
| 22:39.45 | bucky | no.. just got it recently |
| 22:40.08 | levander | bucky: i've been watching hard drive prices go down week by week recently, and going down significantly |
| 22:40.29 | CasaNova__ | What does a 'c' mean in front of vlc when I do aptitude search vlc? |
| 22:40.29 | goron | !nvidia-agp |
| 22:40.31 | levander | bucky: i bet people are just out of the 250gb sata drives is why newegg doesn't even have them |
| 22:40.32 | goron | !nvidiaagp |
| 22:41.00 | bucky | levander: look at monarchcomputer.com if it's really important to you how much i paid for my drive |
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| 22:41.15 | levander | bucky: i don't care, i was just saying |
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| 22:41.26 | goron | Could someone just answer? I can't get rid of the agpgart module |
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| 22:41.47 | ansong | levander, i don't know if people have mentioned it or not, but www.mwave.com is a good place to buy hardware (similar to newegg) |
| 22:41.51 | sobersabre | burp. |
| 22:41.52 | levander | goron: i would if i knew |
| 22:41.59 | thingfish | goron: what I would like to know is why you're trying to get rid of it. |
| 22:42.07 | SimonRaven | goron: um, unload the modules that's using it first... |
| 22:42.18 | thingfish | hehe sobersabre it was a liter. |
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| 22:42.30 | goron | SimonRaven: already tried that. |
| 22:42.31 | levander | ansong: yeah, i usually go to froogle or pricegrabber and just pick a retailer i've heard of before from there, i've bought several things from mwave that way before |
| 22:42.34 | sobersabre | thingfish then I have about a half left more :) |
| 22:42.38 | thingfish | hehe |
| 22:42.53 | goron | SimonRaven: nvidia_agp uses it, but I can't unload that, because that too is "in use". |
| 22:43.00 | thingfish | is timothy leary dead? |
| 22:43.13 | goron | thingfish: From experience I know that apggart module has zero performance. |
| 22:43.25 | sobersabre | before i continue... where can i have a good sources list for testing distribution ? |
| 22:43.27 | thingfish | ...um, ok. |
| 22:43.56 | SimonRaven | you have to reboot then. because the kernel won't let it go |
| 22:43.59 | sobersabre | goron then stop using it... ( i mean nvidia_agp |
| 22:44.02 | thingfish | sobersabre: just duplicate your sarge lines and change them accordingly. |
| 22:44.18 | sobersabre | thingfish ou mean s/stable/testing/ ? |
| 22:44.23 | goron | sobersabre: You are brilliant. |
| 22:44.27 | thingfish | yes, sobersabre |
| 22:44.29 | goron | sobersabre: How? |
| 22:44.44 | sobersabre | goron, are you using fbconsole ? |
| 22:44.44 | goron | sobersabre: I don't have X running anymore... for a long time. |
| 22:44.47 | thingfish | !moody blues |
| 22:44.57 | goron | sobersabre: Dunno, I am using a standard Stable kernel. |
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| 22:45.05 | thingfish | tsk dpkg doesn't know anything about music, I guess. |
| 22:45.07 | linoleum | !remove kde |
| 22:45.07 | dpkg | rumour has it, remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 22:45.23 | CasaNova__ | !vlc |
| 22:45.23 | dpkg | i heard vlc is the VideoLAN Client. It's a MPEG2 client/server program for broadcasting. It can also be used standalone as an normal MPEG2/DVD player. See http://www.videolan.org, or apt-gettable. |
| 22:45.28 | sobersabre | goron then ... try rmmod -f nvidia_agp |
| 22:45.58 | sobersabre | goron will you die if the machine is stuck as the result of this action ? |
| 22:46.18 | goron | sobersabre: too late, but no. |
| 22:46.45 | sobersabre | xwolf is wolf... and inu is dog... strange transformation. |
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| 22:46.49 | goron | sobersabre: Ok, I already did that, but now it works? |
| 22:47.02 | sobersabre | goron lsmod is your friend. |
| 22:47.47 | goron | sobersabre: I know, but I was amazed that it worked this time... |
| 22:47.49 | ansong | i think the problem i have burning cd's is the result of running testing mixed with unstable. if i removed all the unstable apps that i'm aware of, ran deborphan to get anything they leave behind, and cull my sources.list to just testing repo's is it possible i'll end up with a pure 'testing' system? |
| 22:48.09 | goron | sobersabre: But... still when I load nvidia's driver, it doesn't use NVAGP. |
| 22:48.14 | goron | sobersabre: and it should do that. |
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| 22:49.34 | ansong | is it possible to go from a mixed system to testing only? |
| 22:50.00 | CasaNova__ | ansong- I dont run any unstable - just testing and I cant get cdrecord to recognize any media in cdburner (usb)or dvd ide burner! But I can burn dvds just fine... |
| 22:50.06 | sobersabre | goron have you instructed nvidia X driver to use nvidia agp driver ? |
| 22:50.16 | goron | sobersabre: yes |
| 22:50.20 | ansong | CasaNova__, bizarre |
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| 22:51.11 | CasaNova__ | ansong :I have always had trouble with cdrecor dand my dvdburner - never could burn a cde in it - recently it wont recognize my media in external usb burner that was always slow stnadby (have to burn at 4X) |
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| 22:51.38 | sobersabre | goron i don't know... maybe you should check your house for gremlins. |
| 22:51.40 | |root| | hi, i wonder, what image i should download for Intel Centrino? |
| 22:51.47 | CasaNova__ | I've grown to dislike cdrecord... and now am stuck just burnign cds or waiting until I can copy data to windwos laptop and burning cd there :-( |
| 22:51.47 | sobersabre | which version of amarok is in testing now ? |
| 22:52.04 | thingfish | |root|: look for an i686 one. |
| 22:52.08 | goron | sobersabre: It should be able to function without agpgart.ko, right? |
| 22:52.15 | |root| | thingfish thanks |
| 22:52.18 | gpm | hi again. i just backed up a dvd with dvdbackup, and now i'm trying to create an iso with mkisofs -dvd-video ~/dvd_backup/Movie > movie.iso and it gives me this error: mkisofs: Either the *.IFO file is bad or you found a mkisofs bug. anyone know what i can do to solve this problem? |
| 22:52.18 | dpkg | Many greetings, again. i just backed up a dvd with dvdbackup, and now i'm trying to create an iso with mkisofs -dvd-video ~/dvd_backup/Movie > movie.iso and it gives me this error: mkisofs: Either the *.IFO file is bad or you found a mkisofs bug. anyone know what i can do to solve this problem, most strange traveller, to this IRCdom of plenty. |
| 22:52.24 | thingfish | |root|: are you wanting to do the netinstall? |
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| 22:52.38 | |root| | thingfish: yes |
| 22:52.49 | sobersabre | goron I am not sure, afaik, you should have no agpgart in the kernel, but nvidia_agp |
| 22:53.07 | |root| | thingfish: i cant see any i686, only i386] [ia64] [m68k |
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| 22:53.16 | thingfish | |root|: well then you really don't have much of a choice, until after install is finished. Just do linux26 at the boot prompt, if you want a 2.6 kernel. |
| 22:53.24 | goron | sobersabre: Is there some way to get the current running kernel configuration? |
| 22:53.39 | goron | sobersabre: Such that I can build a custom kernel without agpgart. |
| 22:53.40 | thingfish | sorry, yes, |root|, just i386. It's happy hour here. ") |
| 22:53.45 | thingfish | aack |
| 22:53.48 | |root| | heh |
| 22:53.49 | bucky | |root|: everybody upgrades the kernel after the install anyway |
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| 22:54.05 | thingfish | yes they do. |
| 22:54.13 | |root| | ok, one more thing: will i have to compile kernel? |
| 22:54.15 | GregorR | By law. |
| 22:54.23 | GregorR | ;) |
| 22:54.39 | bucky | |root|: apt-cache search image and pick one |
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| 22:54.54 | sobersabre | goron apparently your current conf does have agpgart. |
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| 22:54.58 | |root| | bucky: in winblows right now |
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| 22:55.01 | bucky | |root|: then apt-get it |
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| 22:55.14 | sobersabre | you need to copy /boot/config-<your_release_of_kernel> |
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| 22:55.18 | goron | sobersabre: I know, such that I can delete it from the configuration. |
| 22:55.21 | sobersabre | into sources/.config |
| 22:55.26 | thingfish | I only flightsim in windows. I want to get rid of it, but I love my planes too much. |
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| 22:55.31 | |root| | sobersabre: okey, same as gentoo :( |
| 22:55.34 | bucky | |root|: thats for future reference.. most people use debian for the apt |
| 22:55.40 | ansong | i'm off to purge my system of the unstable taint. |
| 22:55.48 | ansong | thanks for the help |
| 22:55.49 | newuser11 | iam installing debian now :) |
| 22:55.50 | thingfish | most people use debian because it fucking works. |
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| 22:55.52 | |root| | thingfish: yes, winblows is for games only |
| 22:55.52 | sobersabre | does anybody here use testing and amarok ? |
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| 22:56.20 | sobersabre | |root| don't you have anything else to play with except a computer ? |
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| 22:56.30 | |root| | sobersabre: why? |
| 22:56.43 | sobersabre | you say you have windows for games. |
| 22:57.02 | thingfish | yes, well, it's a sad fact of life. |
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| 22:57.03 | sobersabre | why to play with a computer... ? |
| 22:57.11 | thingfish | well, duh, yes. |
| 22:57.15 | |root| | sobersabre: yes, on my desktop iam running Mandriva, i want to test debian |
| 22:57.28 | cddesjar | rpm! |
| 22:57.31 | thingfish | I mean, screw ideology, there's recreation to be had. |
| 22:57.40 | sobersabre | |root| you mean you test Mandriva and you want to be running Debian ? |
| 22:57.43 | GregorR | !start a distro war |
| 22:57.43 | dpkg | Gentoo is the worst distro ever! |
| 22:57.44 | |root| | and yes, windows is good for games and Netstumbler |
| 22:57.54 | cddesjar | !gentoosmite GregorR |
| 22:57.56 | |root| | dpkg: yes it is |
| 22:57.59 | GregorR | LOL |
| 22:58.06 | GregorR | AHAHAHA !gentoosmite = awesome |
| 22:58.06 | gpm | |ryan|: hey, you still around? |
| 22:58.16 | thingfish | I won't say windows is good for games. I'll just say it's unadvoidable. |
| 22:58.25 | thingfish | oops I mean unavoidable. |
| 22:58.29 | |root| | sobersabre: yes, i test |
| 22:58.36 | cddesjar | GregorR: yeah it's one of my favourites too |
| 22:58.38 | |root| | sobersabre: now iam on laptop |
| 22:58.48 | goron | thingfish: Performance on Windows is beatable. |
| 22:58.55 | sobersabre | |root| oh really.. ? and why do you mention this ? |
| 22:58.56 | |root| | goron: with hammer... |
| 22:58.56 | thingfish | yawn |
| 22:59.08 | goron | |root|: ? |
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| 22:59.22 | sobersabre | |root| my computer is of silver color |
| 22:59.29 | |root| | sobersabre: nice |
| 22:59.35 | sobersabre | and i have a mouse! |
| 22:59.48 | |root| | sobersabre: mine is black, but, u need it for installing or what? :P |
| 22:59.49 | sobersabre | with 3 buttons and a rolling wheel! |
| 22:59.55 | dishfish | mine is black as well |
| 23:00.00 | |root| | sobersabre: nice, i have touchpad |
| 23:00.15 | thingfish | unfortunately the user experience in ms flight simulator 2004 is not beatable, certainly not by flightgear. Fly at sunset sometime using real weather in fs2004...gorgeous. |
| 23:00.17 | debian | i have a joy stick |
| 23:00.18 | sobersabre | |root| and do you like to touch your touchpad by accident ... do you ? |
| 23:00.26 | thingfish | ooh i bet you do, debian. |
| 23:00.39 | thingfish | is it force feedback? |
| 23:00.43 | debian | :) could not resist |
| 23:00.47 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:00.48 | |root| | sobersabre: sometimes, when writing something |
| 23:00.48 | thingfish | me too |
| 23:00.51 | gpm | i just backed up a dvd with dvdbackup, and now i'm trying to create an iso with mkisofs -dvd-video ~/dvd_backup/Movie > movie.iso and it gives me this error: mkisofs: Either the *.IFO file is bad or you found a mkisofs bug. anyone know what i can do to solve this problem? |
| 23:00.53 | dishfish | does ms flight sim work under Debian/Wine? |
| 23:01.06 | goron | probably not. |
| 23:01.12 | thingfish | dishfish: last I checked, no, otherwise I'd be going that route. |
| 23:01.13 | sobersabre | |root| it is so... enjoyeable to youch the touchpad by accident... isn't it ? :) :) :) |
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| 23:01.25 | sobersabre | s/youch/touch/ |
| 23:01.27 | dishfish | nope cos it maybe requires Direct3D |
| 23:01.45 | |root| | sbersabre: give me your address, ill send u one |
| 23:01.47 | dishfish | and not even Cedega has a good Direct3D support |
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| 23:02.01 | sobersabre | |root| you mean touchpad ? or laptop ? |
| 23:02.05 | thingfish | plus I mean really how guilty do you expect me to feel for spending at most an hour in xp doing flight simming each day...if I even do it every day. otherwise I'm in my dear precious debian sarge. |
| 23:02.21 | |root| | sobersabre: touchpad, if u think its enjoyable to touch it ;) |
| 23:02.21 | bucky | DirectX is Bill's finest voodoo |
| 23:02.26 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:02.26 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 23:02.34 | goron | How can I see via apt what kernel I have installed? |
| 23:02.35 | thingfish | oh man, I'm just not a fanatic. |
| 23:02.44 | Lilldude10 | how do u install netscape on sarge |
| 23:02.48 | thingfish | too old to be a fanatic. |
| 23:02.50 | goron | I would like to reinstall it. |
| 23:02.57 | sobersabre | goron you don't have to see it via apt. |
| 23:03.04 | debian | wine vs cedega |
| 23:03.09 | setog3 | goron uname -a |
| 23:03.12 | thingfish | hi abrotman, you little minx! |
| 23:03.13 | valdyn | gpm: if this is just about video dvds, you can backup these just fine with dd if=/dev/dvd of=file.img and burn that directly |
| 23:03.16 | abrotman | hi |
| 23:03.18 | sobersabre | dpkg -l kernel-image would do .. |
| 23:03.18 | dpkg | ii kernel-image would do .. 2.5-5 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 23:03.19 | thingfish | hehe |
| 23:03.20 | dishfish | Yeps, it keeps ppl addicted even better than making them refere to MS Word when they mean to say "text editor" |
| 23:03.21 | goron | sobersabre: Yes, I do, because I want the package name. |
| 23:03.34 | thingfish | !afo |
| 23:03.35 | dpkg | anyone for ops! |
| 23:03.35 | bucky | sobersabre: dpkg -l *image* |grep ii |
| 23:03.38 | thingfish | bah |
| 23:03.44 | gpm | valdyn: even if they have css encoding? |
| 23:03.48 | andrew_ | :( wheres my 1.5 lol |
| 23:03.48 | bucky | goron: dpkg -l *image* |grep ii |
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| 23:03.50 | thingfish | get rid of the 'anyone' |
| 23:03.51 | bucky | sorry |
| 23:03.53 | gpm | valdyn: why do people ever use dvdbackup then? |
| 23:03.57 | sobersabre | bucky you love to run your imagemagick kernel ... righ ? |
| 23:04.02 | goron | bucky: ah, image, thanks |
| 23:04.04 | bucky | yes |
| 23:04.28 | valdyn | gpm: sure, css has nothing to with that really |
| 23:04.30 | |root| | why i see that debian has 14 CDs ? |
| 23:04.43 | valdyn | gpm: good question, i dont know |
| 23:04.50 | Shadur | root: Because if you want do download the entirety of the debian archive, that's what you get. |
| 23:04.51 | abrotman | !dstats sarge |
| 23:04.59 | valdyn | gpm: might have been file size limitations on some file systems |
| 23:05.03 | dpkg | Debian Distro Stats on sarge... 15660 packages, 1468 maintainers, 28183 MB installed size, 8871 MB compressed size. |
| 23:05.04 | abrotman | that's why |
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| 23:05.11 | Shadur | Alternately, you can do a network install and only need a 10-megabyte image. |
| 23:05.21 | abrotman | 100MB |
| 23:05.25 | |rooten| | Shadur: nice, thats what i need |
| 23:05.28 | bucky | |rooten|: in case you want to run your own debian mirror |
| 23:05.36 | abrotman | !d-i |
| 23:05.36 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:05.39 | predius_ | cddesjar: the game rocks |
| 23:05.40 | gpm | valdyn: someone told me i wouldn't be able to write the bits for css decryption, so i'd have to use something like dvdbackup (and therefore libdvdread) to decrypt the css |
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| 23:06.19 | |rooten| | bucky: eh, ok, will i need to compile kernel or just cp /boot/config-blahblah |
| 23:06.57 | bucky | |rooten|: i forgot what the original question was |
| 23:07.10 | valdyn | gpm: i know nothing about decrypting dvds, i dont do or need that. |
| 23:07.18 | bucky | |rooten|: centrino or something? |
| 23:07.19 | |rooten| | bucky; if ill need to compile kernel |
| 23:07.25 | valdyn | gpm: just grabbing images has however nothing to do with it |
| 23:07.29 | ryan- | i've just update one of my systems, and i'm getting this error: unable to install `/etc/services.dpkg-new' as `/etc/services': Operation not permitted |
| 23:07.35 | ryan- | it's the netbase package that's causing it |
| 23:07.43 | sobersabre | can somebody tell me which version of amarok does testing have now ? |
| 23:07.46 | bucky | |rooten|: just apt-cache search image choose one and apt-get it |
| 23:07.47 | |rooten| | bucky: centrino |
| 23:07.47 | abrotman | who owns both those files ? |
| 23:07.54 | ryan- | and becuase of that error, samba, lftp, etc won't update properly either |
| 23:07.59 | jharrison | ryan-: www.debian.org |
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| 23:08.08 | |rooten| | bucky: again, iam in Winblows, there is no apt-get |
| 23:08.14 | abrotman | jharrison: what good is that ? |
| 23:08.25 | jharrison | abrotman: a little I hope |
| 23:08.42 | bucky | |rooten|: well i guess you'll have to wait until you install debian before you upgrade the kernel |
| 23:08.44 | abrotman | jharrison: it doesn't even make sense .. i think you told the wrong person |
| 23:08.49 | ryan- | jharrison: ?? |
| 23:08.55 | jharrison | abrotman: its quite easy to search for packages on debian's website |
| 23:09.03 | abrotman | jharrison: wtf are you talking about ? |
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| 23:09.07 | abrotman | ryan-: i htink jharrison got lost :) |
| 23:09.16 | |rooten| | bucky: that is sure, but, will ill be EVER compiling kernel when first installing it? |
| 23:09.18 | abrotman | sobersabre: packages.debian.org |
| 23:09.18 | jharrison | ryan-: sorry |
| 23:09.24 | sobersabre | abrotman thanks... |
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| 23:09.31 | abrotman | jharrison: did you get the wrong person ? |
| 23:09.34 | bucky | |rooten|: nope |
| 23:09.35 | jharrison | abrotman: my eyes are getting old |
| 23:09.43 | abrotman | jharrison: aren't you younger than me ? |
| 23:09.53 | jharrison | abrotman: are you over 31? |
| 23:09.55 | valdyn | gpm: dvdbackup seems to be able to 'extract only selected titles' thats some good use for some people i guess |
| 23:09.56 | newuser11 | hello i need help please |
| 23:09.58 | qknight | dpkg -l will suppress printing of long names, i can't therefore find out how a specific package is called. i can remember that there was something like WIDTH which could help to work arround this problem |
| 23:09.58 | dpkg | No packages found matching will suppress printing of long names, i can't therefore find out how a specific package is called. i can remember that there was something like WIDTH which could help to work arround this problem |
| 23:10.01 | abrotman | jharrison: depends on the day i suppose :) |
| 23:10.01 | |rooten| | bucky: great, and, debian have graphical install or cmd? |
| 23:10.13 | abrotman | qknight: COLUMNS=150 dpkg -l |
| 23:10.13 | jharrison | abrotman: im not wearing my glasses right now |
| 23:10.15 | newuser11 | after making root pass and user pass it asked me for apt configuration |
| 23:10.15 | bucky | |rooten|: ncurses based |
| 23:10.21 | jharrison | abrotman: guess I should put them on |
| 23:10.26 | newuser11 | ./dev/cdrom |
| 23:10.31 | qknight | abrotman: thanks |
| 23:10.32 | newuser11 | its not working |
| 23:10.42 | bucky | !tell |rooten| about d-i |
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| 23:11.02 | jharrison | im bored |
| 23:11.08 | Tortel | the instaler of debian |
| 23:11.09 | jharrison | I think ill compile some kernels |
| 23:11.11 | Tortel | !bored |
| 23:11.11 | dpkg | somebody said bored was something that you are when you are asking apt stupid questions like "tell me about bored", or what you are when you ask apt stupid questions like "What is bored?", or check freshmeat.net/random/, or check the debian user homepages, http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-worldmap/, or <reply> only boring people get bored |
| 23:11.13 | abrotman | jharrison: obviously .. you haven't been here in a while :) |
| 23:11.14 | newuser11 | anyone help me please |
| 23:11.19 | jharrison | abrotman: :) |
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| 23:11.28 | bucky | |rooten|: get the netinstall iso and read the install doc at that url ^^ |
| 23:11.33 | abrotman | newuser11: what's the problem ? .. use http sources |
| 23:11.35 | jharrison | abrotman: well thats cause the place sank into the realms of darkness |
| 23:11.45 | |rooten| | bucky: yea,iam dwnlding the netinstall iso |
| 23:12.24 | jharrison | abrotman: so I usually stop in ever so often to see how its doing and if its worth putting back on my autojoin list |
| 23:12.24 | bucky | |rooten|: what is this a laptop? |
| 23:12.25 | abrotman | jharrison: huh ?... we got attacked by the politeness police |
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| 23:12.25 | |rooten| | bucky: Fujitsu siemens Amilo Pro 2020 |
| 23:12.43 | newuser11 | help |
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| 23:13.02 | abrotman | newuser11: use http sources ? |
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| 23:13.05 | newuser11 | after setting up root pass and user pass |
| 23:13.13 | newuser11 | my internet is slow abrotman |
| 23:13.19 | abrotman | newuser11: so you have all 14 CDs ? |
| 23:13.22 | qknight | i want to remove all packages which have "fiasko" in their name, how can i do that? dpkg --puge *fiasko* does not work |
| 23:13.24 | newuser11 | how can i make it read from cdrom? |
| 23:13.28 | monkey | yo? |
| 23:13.30 | newuser11 | i have the first 3 cds |
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| 23:13.33 | jharrison | abrotman: what do you mean? |
| 23:13.37 | abrotman | qknight: you misspelled purge |
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| 23:13.39 | jharrison | abrotman: im not talking about that |
| 23:13.40 | monkey | what channel am i ,dammit? |
| 23:13.44 | abrotman | newuser11: apt-cdrom |
| 23:13.47 | jharrison | abrotman: has this place every been polite? |
| 23:13.59 | monkey | good evening guys |
| 23:14.02 | abrotman | jharrison: that was the point |
| 23:14.04 | jharrison | abrotman: im talking about being overrun by newbies and the hell that it caused |
| 23:14.04 | qknight | abrotman: i know but doesn't change anything |
| 23:14.13 | Tortel | !newbies |
| 23:14.13 | dpkg | They're not in right now flooding us because they don't queue for new versions of Debian GNU/Linux like we hardcore 31337 Linux haX0r do... I think I'm wrong...looks like's it starting now! "Duck and cover" |
| 23:14.14 | bucky | |rooten|: do you have an ethernet connection for that laptop? |
| 23:14.15 | jharrison | abrotman: remember the sarge release? |
| 23:14.18 | qknight | i want to remove all packages which have "fiasko" in their name, h |
| 23:14.22 | abrotman | qknight: dpkg -P fiasko* ? |
| 23:14.36 | megatux | I wish testing had a policy of "no upgrade breakage" .. for example, don't import a new version of kde until ALL the dependant packages are ready |
| 23:14.38 | abrotman | jharrison: what about it ? |
| 23:14.41 | jharrison | abrotman: remember how people retreated to #debian-offtopic? |
| 23:14.41 | |rooten| | bucky: yea, iam on the laptop right now, i have 6mbit |
| 23:14.44 | newuser11 | apt-cdrom is not a block device |
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| 23:14.46 | abrotman | megatux: that's why it's called testing .. |
| 23:14.47 | jharrison | abrotman: well thats what im talking about |
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| 23:15.00 | newuser11 | abrotman it said apt-cdrom is not a block device |
| 23:15.00 | abrotman | jharrison: uhm ... they didn't retreat .. some were forced out |
| 23:15.08 | abrotman | newuser11: ls -l /dev/cdrom |
| 23:15.09 | megatux | abrotman: yeah, but we have unstable as well.. leave the breakage there |
| 23:15.15 | monkey | is this the fxxxing help channel or what? |
| 23:15.16 | newuser11 | ok |
| 23:15.16 | jharrison | abrotman: forced out? |
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| 23:15.18 | abrotman | megatux: file bugs .. |
| 23:15.19 | jharrison | abrotman: why? |
| 23:15.26 | abrotman | megatux: if you don't like broken stuff .. use stable |
| 23:15.26 | qknight | abrotman: no that doesn't work either |
| 23:15.30 | valdyn | qknight: dpkg -l | awk '{ print $2 }' | grep fiasko | xargs dpkg --remove |
| 23:15.41 | abrotman | valdyn: you hacker! |
| 23:15.45 | bucky | |rooten|: also you might have to upgrade to etch in order to get xorg for that intel-agp, i915 i810 graphics card |
| 23:15.48 | |rooten| | lofl |
| 23:15.48 | abrotman | jharrison: politeness police .. |
| 23:15.57 | jharrison | abrotman: are you serious? |
| 23:16.09 | abrotman | jharrison: when's the last time you saw greycat ? |
| 23:16.10 | megatux | abrotman: testing would be better suited as a balance between stable and unstable.. for people whom stable is too outdated |
| 23:16.11 | newuser11 | abrotman iam not on console iam on configration table for the apt i cant write ls -l |
| 23:16.20 | jharrison | abrotman: well that has to be one of the side effects of the newbie invasion |
| 23:16.21 | pedro420 | nvz: nandrew ? |
| 23:16.23 | jharrison | abrotman: long time |
| 23:16.31 | abrotman | megatux: tough shit .. testing breaks .. either deal with it or don't use it .. i use testing .. i don't seem to have a problem |
| 23:16.41 | |rooten| | bucky: eh, can u translate it? i got that maybe i'll have to upgrade drivers 2 get xorg for intel xtreme 2 |
| 23:16.43 | john_c | can someone tell me wich software should i use for this: i want an online "map" of the network, with each compuer displayed telling me wich computers are on, estimated uptime, and so on... the other machines are in general windows stations, but i need this activity report done, so any ideeas ? |
| 23:16.53 | abrotman | newuser11: you can skip it and set it up later |
| 23:16.57 | jharrison | abrotman: before the newbies showed up no one here cared about politeness really |
| 23:16.57 | abrotman | i think |
| 23:17.04 | |rooten| | john_c: etterape |
| 23:17.07 | abrotman | jharrison: no .. that's not really what happened |
| 23:17.08 | newuser11 | ok |
| 23:17.09 | jharrison | abrotman: its a shame if people were forced out |
| 23:17.13 | megatux | abrotman: that's not the point.. it would be good for debian uptake to have a semi-stable release that is more up to date |
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| 23:17.21 | jharrison | channels should be able to make their own policy |
| 23:17.23 | bucky | |rooten|: i'd upgrade immediately after the base install.. google for how to upgrade |
| 23:17.24 | bucky | bbl |
| 23:17.24 | qknight | valdyn: your command will cut all names as without COLUMNS=150 |
| 23:17.26 | abrotman | megatux: if you don't understand how debian works . .that's not my problem |
| 23:17.32 | qknight | valdyn: so i can't use it in this context |
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| 23:17.51 | megatux | abrotman: I've been using debian for 4 years and run unstable on my development workstations.. you're talking to the wrong person as newbie |
| 23:17.58 | |rooten| | bucky: ok, will the install delete NTLoader or not? |
| 23:17.59 | valdyn | qknight: uh? why cant you use COLUMNS=150 ? |
| 23:18.05 | qknight | anyway why can't dpkg output the full name of a package as it's done in gentoo |
| 23:18.17 | abrotman | megatux: then you should understand stable/testing/unstable .. i don't understand why you're complaining |
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| 23:18.35 | valdyn | qknight: it does so, in pipes, probably only post-sarge, without COLUMNS= |
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| 23:18.40 | qknight | valdyn: i can use COLUMNS=150, however piping to less or to grep will make the COLUMNS directive useless |
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| 23:18.58 | tictac | hmm. Xorg seems to be hogging all the cpu now that ive upgraded to 2.6 w/ preemptive kernel (low latency desktop) |
| 23:19.06 | Epod69 | hey everyone, I am having problems with my samba server. I changed the ip address of the samba server to static instead of automatically obtaining an ip address and now when I try to access the samba server via Smb4K, i shows the servers old address and I cant access it... so why would the server not be showing its new ip address with its netbios name ? If I search for the new ip address of... |
| 23:19.08 | Epod69 | ...the server it will show the server but when i go to add the server it says name already exists.. |
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| 23:19.32 | CasaNova__ | VLC in etch any links about what is wrong with vlc in etch? |
| 23:19.32 | john_c | |rooten|: is there any deb pkg for that ? |
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| 23:19.45 | maskedbeagle | #python |
| 23:19.49 | abrotman | CasaNova__: bugs.debian.org ? |
| 23:19.50 | |rooten| | john_c: dont know, but i think that it is |
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| 23:19.50 | predius_ | CasaNova__: it's broken. |
| 23:20.00 | valdyn | qknight: eh? piping to less will make COLUMNS 'useless'? nonsense |
| 23:20.00 | newuser11 | abrotman it worked on http iam downloading it 33% so far |
| 23:20.01 | jharrison | abrotman: so what happened? |
| 23:20.06 | abrotman | yay |
| 23:20.11 | abrotman | jharrison: wrt ? |
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| 23:20.22 | jharrison | abrotman: wrt? |
| 23:20.26 | abrotman | !wrt |
| 23:20.26 | dpkg | i guess wrt is with respect to, or with regards to |
| 23:20.35 | john_c | |rooten|: can you give me a link of the program ? i can't find anything |
| 23:20.41 | megatux | abrotman: I'm not necessarily complaining. I'm saying there's a better way, especially now that experimental exists. Many people don't use Debian because it's too far behind and they don't feel like hastling with testing/unstable. |
| 23:20.41 | jharrison | abrotman: greycat has been banished from the entire network? |
| 23:20.42 | qknight | valdyn: maybe it's nonsence for you but at least it's behaving like this |
| 23:20.54 | abrotman | megatux: you have a very poor understanding of how debian works .. |
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| 23:21.03 | valdyn | qknight: not on my sarge system |
| 23:21.07 | abrotman | jharrison: no . he's in other channels |
| 23:21.08 | jharrison | abrotman: in regard to people being forced out |
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| 23:21.12 | qknight | valdyn: nonsense is for example the behaviour of dpkg |
| 23:21.14 | megatux | abrotman: then you have a poor understanding of why it's not more popular |
| 23:21.17 | qknight | valdyn: yes maybe |
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| 23:21.33 | levander | Anybody can tell me if you can plug a SATA II drive into a SATA I controller? |
| 23:21.34 | qknight | ok this is another point changing to gentoo |
| 23:21.35 | megatux | abrotman: I fully understand the *current* release philosophy |
| 23:21.36 | abrotman | megatux: it works for me .. it doesn't work for you .. that's not my problem .. if you don't like it .. find another distro .. |
| 23:21.39 | qknight | thanks for all you help ;-) |
| 23:21.46 | qknight | valdyn: ;-) |
| 23:21.52 | jharrison | sweet |
| 23:21.55 | abrotman | jharrison: do you see mwilson ? |
| 23:22.00 | valdyn | haha |
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| 23:22.05 | bucky | megatux that's why there's 756 people in here.. it's not popular enough |
| 23:22.06 | jharrison | abrotman: nope |
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| 23:22.12 | valdyn | uh, hes banned, but is greycat banned? |
| 23:22.18 | abrotman | no he's not |
| 23:22.22 | valdyn | oh |
| 23:22.23 | abrotman | !start a distro war |
| 23:22.24 | dpkg | Mandriva owns! |
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| 23:22.34 | jharrison | valdyn: who is banned? |
| 23:22.34 | valdyn | well, he only was banned then |
| 23:22.41 | CasaNova__ | it Pwns n00b! |
| 23:22.43 | valdyn | mwilson is/was |
| 23:22.48 | abrotman | jharrison: mwilson is .. greycat is not |
| 23:22.58 | jharrison | why would he be banned from this channel |
| 23:23.13 | abrotman | who? |
| 23:23.15 | |rooten| | bucky: how i should partition my disk for debian? swap/boot/root ? |
| 23:23.19 | megatux | bucky: there's no such thing as popular enough.. it can always improve |
| 23:23.22 | jharrison | abrotman: mwilson |
| 23:23.28 | abrotman | jharrison: are you kidding ? |
| 23:23.31 | abrotman | bucky: troll ? |
| 23:23.43 | bucky | who |
| 23:23.48 | |rooten| | john_c: sorry etherape |
| 23:23.50 | jharrison | abrotman: well I didnt know mwilson very well |
| 23:23.55 | bucky | |rooten|: i'd just make a / and a swap |
| 23:24.03 | |rooten| | bucky: k thx |
| 23:24.07 | jharrison | abrotman: what did he do to get banned? |
| 23:24.16 | abrotman | jharrison: same thing he always did |
| 23:24.18 | |rooten| | john_c: or iptraf |
| 23:24.22 | megatux | abrotman: since when is troll defined as someone who puts forth an idea to improve something he already likes |
| 23:24.26 | pedro420 | can anyone here help me everytime I try to use apollon is says it cant start the gift daemon. And when I try to start in the terminal it says Can't open /home/pedro/.giFT/giftd.log: File name too long*** GIFT-FATAL: Unable to startup the giFT core, *sigh*. |
| 23:24.43 | jharrison | abrotman: so he was affected by the politeness policy? |
| 23:24.43 | abrotman | megatux: you're telling the wrong people .. most here are not DDs .. |
| 23:24.44 | |rooten| | john_c: or tethereal |
| 23:25.02 | megatux | abrotman: evidently.. I'll take it to the lists |
| 23:25.11 | abrotman | megatux: that is a much better place for such proposals |
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| 23:25.41 | jharrison | megatux: troll is used as a mark for anyone who no one else likes very much in most channels |
| 23:25.41 | cddesjar | megatux: or go to #debian-devel |
| 23:25.50 | john_c | |rooten|: ok i will try, but iptraf dosen;t make a web page |
| 23:26.12 | cddesjar | !gentoosmite cddesjar |
| 23:26.21 | |rooten| | john_c: http://iptraf.seul.org/ |
| 23:26.24 | bucky | jharrison yeah like mwilson |
| 23:26.26 | abrotman | kingsley: your math is still very flawed |
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| 23:26.48 | |rooten| | !gentoosmite |rooten| |
| 23:26.58 | |rooten| | not true |
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| 23:27.11 | |rooten| | i compiled kernel in 5 minutes |
| 23:27.20 | jharrison | as far as I know mwilson never did much to get banned for |
| 23:27.24 | abrotman | hahahaa |
| 23:27.35 | DozeN | re |
| 23:27.36 | jharrison | abrotman: what? |
| 23:27.38 | DozeN | hmm |
| 23:27.42 | abrotman | jharrison: i have no idea where oyu were |
| 23:27.51 | DozeN | how much time? |
| 23:27.57 | jharrison | abrotman: I was not here I know that much |
| 23:28.02 | jharrison | abrotman: it appears I have missed something |
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| 23:28.19 | valdyn | jharrison: banned for 'trolling newbies' |
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| 23:29.42 | jfil | hi, do u know how to insert a delay between executions in .xsession? |
| 23:29.54 | jfil | i mean, something like NOP in assembler |
| 23:29.58 | bbrazil | jfil: sleep |
| 23:30.09 | abrotman | !u |
| 23:30.09 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 23:30.31 | jfil | bbrazil: sleep is how many time? |
| 23:30.40 | abrotman | |rooten|: do you always talk like a moron? |
| 23:30.43 | bbrazil | jfil: you specify in seconds |
| 23:30.57 | abrotman | jfil: man sleep |
| 23:31.06 | jfil | sleep 5 for example? ahh ok |
| 23:31.36 | |rooten| | abrotman: only when i dont slept for two days because of gentoo |
| 23:31.56 | valdyn | watching it compile was _that_ exciting? |
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| 23:32.15 | |rooten| | valdyn: trying to config it... i compiled it in 5 minutes |
| 23:32.23 | subdefy | I'm trying to install debian 3.1r0a "sarge" i386 and during the installation it simply fails to install the kernel |
| 23:32.29 | subdefy | can anyone help me? |
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| 23:32.45 | |rooten| | subdefy:hammer |
| 23:32.47 | abrotman | valdyn: seem doubtful at all? |
| 23:32.58 | abrotman | |rooten|: be quiet |
| 23:33.01 | valdyn | abrotman: hehe |
| 23:33.07 | abrotman | subdefy: did you try linux26 option ? |
| 23:33.09 | |rooten| | heh |
| 23:33.25 | valdyn | |rooten|: i'd like your cluster |
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| 23:33.28 | subdefy | linux26 option? |
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| 23:33.32 | abrotman | yes .. |
| 23:33.32 | abrotman | !ig |
| 23:33.32 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
| 23:33.54 | |rooten| | valdyn: i wouldnt like your keyboard :( |
| 23:33.56 | PIBE | hi |
| 23:33.56 | valdyn | subdefy: i doubt it would 'fail' to copy the kernel to your disk, was there no error message? |
| 23:34.06 | subdefy | well I tried to go to /var/log/messages |
| 23:34.08 | subdefy | but there was nothing |
| 23:34.11 | abrotman | subdefy: i'm sorry .. i misread |
| 23:34.14 | PIBE | who convert ubunto to sid? |
| 23:34.17 | subdefy | it said check there or virtual console 3 |
| 23:34.25 | subdefy | but I have no clue what virtual console 3 is |
| 23:34.32 | abrotman | subdefy: ctrl-alt-f3 |
| 23:34.47 | subdefy | can you think of any other reason? |
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| 23:35.02 | subdefy | for the crash? |
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| 23:35.19 | valdyn | subdefy: that it crashed is actually new information |
| 23:35.29 | jfil | bbrazil: thanks, now my app is working ok with 'sleep' :) |
| 23:35.35 | subdefy | what do you recommend I do? |
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| 23:35.46 | valdyn | subdefy: linux26 as someone already said |
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| 23:35.51 | Nylira | I am trying to compile a kernel for 2.6.14.2 and apparently when It starts it will produce a kernel panic under: Unable to open initial console. It does this with or without initrd support and also on hotplug or udev fs. After trying about 2 dozen google solutions I am outta ideas. Anyone that can help? |
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| 23:36.07 | abrotman | Nylira: why are you compiling ? |
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| 23:36.38 | snowgeese | how do i install netscape? |
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| 23:36.45 | Nylira | Because I want to get rid of some crap in the out of the box kernels |
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| 23:36.57 | Nylira | and want say things like Scsi support native in the system |
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| 23:37.00 | Xenguy | snowgeese: you don't want navigator |
| 23:37.05 | SataDmaProblem | hello, is there anyone who can help me? |
| 23:37.05 | abrotman | snowgeese: apt-get install mozilla-firefox |
| 23:37.13 | snowgeese | why? |
| 23:37.15 | Nylira | The out of the box kernels do seem to work with initrd on them |
| 23:37.24 | Xenguy | snowgeese: try mozilla-browser, or firefox |
| 23:37.29 | subdefy | valdyn: how do I do the linux26 command? |
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| 23:37.34 | subdefy | just type it at the start? |
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| 23:37.42 | snowgeese | whats rong with netscape |
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| 23:37.44 | subdefy | in the install |
| 23:37.45 | Nylira | and I cannot figure out for the life of me why it wont allow me to use a custom kernel which is practically identical to a boxed one |
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| 23:37.56 | Xenguy | snowgeese: corporate crap bolted on |
| 23:38.06 | snowgeese | ok |
| 23:38.10 | |rooten| | logl |
| 23:38.13 | snowgeese | what abought opera |
| 23:38.15 | |rooten| | lofl |
| 23:38.20 | |rooten| | use firefox |
| 23:38.22 | Xenguy | snowgeese: non-free |
| 23:38.30 | jharrison | Nylira: whats the problem? |
| 23:38.38 | wang | how do i get flash to work in firefox? |
| 23:38.39 | snowgeese | i got fire fox wanted something different |
| 23:38.41 | Nylira | The compilation is working just fine |
| 23:38.46 | Nylira | Just that when I boot my new kernel |
| 23:38.48 | Xenguy | snowgeese: just use firefox - it's got buzz :-) |
| 23:38.54 | Nylira | it will hit: Unable to open initial console |
| 23:38.56 | Nylira | Kernel panic |
| 23:38.56 | SataDmaProblem | hello, i need help??? :))) |
| 23:39.07 | abrotman | so ask |
| 23:39.11 | Nylira | It mounts root, frees memory |
| 23:39.15 | Nylira | then it locks up |
| 23:39.22 | |rooten| | SataDmaProblem: so tell them with WHAT |
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| 23:39.30 | SataDmaProblem | one moment |
| 23:39.32 | abrotman | !devconsole |
| 23:39.33 | dpkg | hmm... devconsole is http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-October/011299.html |
| 23:39.34 | |rooten| | lofl |
| 23:39.39 | wang | how do i get flash for firefox? |
| 23:39.57 | subdefy | how does linux26 work? |
| 23:40.01 | abrotman | !find flash sarge |
| 23:40.02 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'flash' (5): flashplugin-nonfree ;; flashybrid ;; libroxen-flash2 ;; newsflash ;; vrflash. |
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| 23:40.13 | Guerin | wow, it's still sunday in north america, innit? |
| 23:40.14 | Nylira | It doesnt attempt to kill the init |
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| 23:40.23 | |rooten| | guerin: here too |
| 23:40.31 | abrotman | Guerin: how can you tell? |
| 23:40.52 | abrotman | Guerin: i mean .. is it that obvious :) |
| 23:40.54 | Nylira | System gives: Try passing init to kernel.. but as noted I tried with initrd in various forms and without it |
| 23:41.01 | wang | abrotman : thanks |
| 23:41.01 | Nylira | all gives the same error response |
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| 23:41.31 | jharrison | Nylira: sounds like you have the kernel misconfigured maybe |
| 23:41.34 | jharrison | Nylira: lacking some support for your hardware |
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| 23:42.12 | Nylira | I am also very sure it tries to boot off the correct the device and that it is noted in grub |
| 23:42.12 | SataDmaProblem | question: i want to turn on UDMA on my SATA hdd ? i have ubuntu, and, when i am copying something from, i don't know, dvd or other partiton, transfer is about 2mb/s... |
| 23:42.24 | abrotman | SataDmaProblem: #ubuntu |
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| 23:42.31 | SataDmaProblem | ok |
| 23:42.39 | logg | SataDmaProblem: read topic |
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| 23:42.54 | logg | SataDmaProblem: /msg dpkg guidelines 2) |
| 23:43.16 | SataDmaProblem | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:43.19 | SataDmaProblem | :) |
| 23:43.23 | Nylira | Well I checked the out of the box kernel with the regard to the device drivers |
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| 23:43.38 | Nylira | and all I can say now is that I have actually MORE of them in my compiled kernel |
| 23:43.42 | Nylira | then in the pre-boxed one |
| 23:43.50 | jharrison | Nylira: are you building from scratch or are you using a config file? |
| 23:43.52 | tictac | anyone getting "Input/output error. scsi sendcmd: no error" using the latest cdrecord |
| 23:44.06 | abrotman | !bts |
| 23:44.06 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 23:44.16 | Nylira | I tried both |
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| 23:44.34 | Nylira | I have been going at this for about 2 weeks now |
| 23:44.41 | Nylira | and its really starting to annoy me :) |
| 23:44.41 | abrotman | !devconsole |
| 23:44.41 | dpkg | [devconsole] http://zgp.org/pipermail/linux-elitists/2005-October/011299.html |
| 23:44.44 | abrotman | does that help ? |
| 23:44.47 | Nylira | nope.. |
| 23:44.54 | Nylira | The follow up message I get is different |
| 23:45.09 | abrotman | Nylira: perhaps ask #kernel ? |
| 23:45.10 | Nylira | For me it says: Try passing init to kernel |
| 23:45.14 | abrotman | or use a debian packaged kernel |
| 23:45.26 | Nylira | Well I am running a packaged kernel now |
| 23:45.31 | Nylira | But I am just stubborn |
| 23:45.32 | Nylira | :) |
| 23:45.43 | pppoe_dude | how can i install gnome 2.12 easily on sarge? |
| 23:45.44 | abrotman | oh .. ok. |
| 23:45.52 | abrotman | Nylira: good way to waste two weeks :) |
| 23:46.14 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: i haven't seen any backports |
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| 23:46.45 | Nylira | Thing is I have even spent a few days with another few friends here who have all compiled the exact same kernel and noone among us seems to be able to figure it out |
| 23:46.46 | pppoe_dude | abrotman, i tried with garnome, but it failed... and i wasn't even sure if it would give me trouble afterwards or not |
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| 23:46.55 | Nylira | which all the more makes me WANT to solve it |
| 23:47.09 | Muffie | my USB keyboard is not working anymore. After a dist-upgrade. Is there a way to mount the root partition and fix that? Anyone? |
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| 23:47.22 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: maybe ask if anyone on #gnome-debian on irc.gnome.org knows |
| 23:47.31 | hent | Muffie, use a rescue cd? |
| 23:47.39 | pppoe_dude | and, question 2, is it pretty safe to install testing? i mean is it comparable to ubuntu in terms of stability? |
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| 23:48.07 | abrotman | !flamethrower |
| 23:48.07 | dpkg | Ever seen what happens when you put fire to plastic? This is what happens when you mix your sarge sources with testing/unstable |
| 23:48.09 | Muffie | hent, ok. How to mount it I know, but what can I do to fix USB keyboard recognition? |
| 23:48.35 | logg | Nylira: what kernel source are you using. the packaged one ? |
| 23:49.09 | abrotman | 2.6.14.2 |
| 23:49.12 | Nylira | I downloaded the 2.6.14-2 kernel source |
| 23:49.53 | Muffie | anyone? |
| 23:50.01 | logg | from kernel.org ? without debian patches ? |
| 23:50.03 | Nylira | As far as I can see the only true difference between my setup and the prepackaged oneis the fact that the prepackaged one has 686 cpu selected and my custom P4 |
| 23:50.34 | pppoe_dude | coz i would like a pure debian alternative to my ubuntu |
| 23:50.45 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: you can't mix them |
| 23:50.50 | Nylira | http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6/ |
| 23:50.50 | logg | ok |
| 23:50.52 | Nylira | That one |
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| 23:51.08 | Muffie | cant believe that no one knows how can I fix my USB keyboard recognition... |
| 23:51.17 | findme | apt-get install linux-source-2.6 comes to mind |
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| 23:51.26 | logg | rite |
| 23:51.29 | pppoe_dude | abrotman: but if i select "testing" in the net setup, how does it compare to ubuntu? coz gnome 2.10 is in testing i believe and im willing to live with that |
| 23:51.43 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: some days .. stuff breaks .. |
| 23:51.53 | hent | Muffie, you have USB support (HID etc) in your kernel? what did you change when it stopped working? |
| 23:51.58 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: ask megatux what he thinks about the stability of testing/etch |
| 23:52.02 | pppoe_dude | i see |
| 23:52.04 | jharrison | Nylira: what happens when you boot your compiled kernel? |
| 23:52.13 | Nylira | As noted.. |
| 23:52.13 | Muffie | hent, it stopped working after a failed apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:52.23 | jharrison | Nylira: if you use my nick in responses to me I will notice them better |
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| 23:52.38 | pppoe_dude | megatux, what do you think of the stability of etch? |
| 23:52.45 | jharrison | Nylira: what system are you running? |
| 23:52.53 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: i will say that for me it's fine .. but KDE users are having problems lately |
| 23:52.56 | Nylira | jharrison: Mounts root, frees kernel memory, Unable to open initial console. Kernel panic. Try passing init to kernel. System halted |
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| 23:53.06 | pppoe_dude | abrotman, i don't like kde |
| 23:53.25 | Nylira | jharrison: 2.6.14.2 686 SMP currently |
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| 23:54.37 | jharrison | Nylira: do you have CONFIG_FB_VESA=y in your config? |
| 23:54.40 | pppoe_dude | how come mplayer-mozilla is in stable, but mplayer isn't? |
| 23:54.43 | Nylira | yes |
| 23:54.58 | abrotman | !tell pppoe_dude about mplayer |
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| 23:55.25 | pppoe_dude | !mplayer |
| 23:55.25 | jharrison | Nylira: what about CONFIG_VIDEO_SELECT=y and FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y? |
| 23:55.25 | dpkg | i heard mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
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| 23:55.37 | abrotman | !tell pppoe_dude about mplayer |
| 23:55.37 | abrotman | !tell pppoe_dude about mplayer |
| 23:55.50 | jharrison | Nylira: and also CONFIG_FB=y of course |
| 23:55.53 | Nylira | lemme open my last config |
| 23:55.55 | Nylira | 1 sec |
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| 23:56.08 | pppoe_dude | cool |
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| 23:56.13 | Lord_Athur | hi |
| 23:56.16 | pppoe_dude | i might be able to live with that |
| 23:56.31 | Lord_Athur | where can I find a good source list for devian? |
| 23:56.38 | pppoe_dude | !vlc |
| 23:56.38 | dpkg | somebody said vlc was the VideoLAN Client. It's a MPEG2 client/server program for broadcasting. It can also be used standalone as an normal MPEG2/DVD player. See http://www.videolan.org, or apt-gettable. |
| 23:56.43 | bbrazil | Lord_Athur: apt-setup |
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| 23:56.51 | Muffie | Anyone knows another channel where I can get information about How can i fix my usb keyboard support, that stopped working after a apt-get dist-upgrade?? |
| 23:56.54 | cddesjar | Lord_Athur: www.linuxquestions.org |
| 23:57.05 | bbrazil | Lord_Athur: apt-spy might also be useful |
| 23:57.21 | elephantMan | Hi all |
| 23:57.32 | abrotman | pppoe_dude: /msg the bots |
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| 23:57.46 | abrotman | Muffie: what got upgraded ? |
| 23:57.53 | pppoe_dude | so vlc compares pretty well to mplayer... can i dump streams in vlc? |
| 23:58.01 | pppoe_dude | abrotman ok |
| 23:58.06 | Guerin | pppoe_dude: yes. |
| 23:58.24 | pppoe_dude | Guerin, do you know how well it handles real media? |
| 23:58.25 | De_Mon | I'm having some trouble mounting root over NFS. I've posted the boot messages and some config dumps at http://pastebin.com/448959 |
| 23:58.35 | Muffie | abrotman: Failed saying that I needed a kernel upgrade. After that I rebooted and now Im unable to log, because of the keyboard... |
| 23:58.36 | Guerin | pppoe_dude: no. |
| 23:58.47 | pppoe_dude | ok |
| 23:58.49 | Guerin | pppoe_dude: most players can play anything they have codecs for. |
| 23:58.49 | abrotman | Muffie: because you're installing udev ? |
| 23:59.02 | elephantMan | I put the 'ftp://ftp.nerim.net' source in '/etc/apt/source.list' for multimedia packages but this source is unaccessible for a authentication reason. How can i get those multimedia packages if this source doesn't work ? |
| 23:59.10 | Guerin | De_Mon: there is almost NEVER a good reason to mount root over nfs. |
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| 23:59.22 | elephantMan | Is there other sources i can use. |
| 23:59.22 | pppoe_dude | apparently 1.7 people download vlc every second :P |
| 23:59.23 | Muffie | abrotman: what is UDEV!? |
| 23:59.28 | abrotman | !tell elephantMan about marillat key |
| 23:59.32 | abrotman | !udev |
| 23:59.32 | dpkg | somebody said udev was at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 23:59.32 | Guerin | elephantMan: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 23:59.33 | elephantMan | Its mostly to get mplayer |
| 23:59.41 | Nylira | Hmm seems I am lacking FB settings but as far as I can see these only have to do with the video card settings.. at least as far as grep told me.. checking menuconfig now |
| 23:59.42 | De_Mon | Guerin I need to reformat the server and theres no floppy/CD access |
| 23:59.55 | Muffie | !udev |
| 23:59.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
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