| 00:00.06 | Lilldude10 | just not shure |
| 00:00.13 | pigor | bye |
| 00:00.14 | arch_initcall | pigor, under a root console: adduser <username> dialout |
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| 00:00.35 | pigor | arch_initcall: thank you ... |
| 00:01.01 | De_Mon | F0xy` hrm? Is the lvm partition unchanged since the format? LVM should have detected the pre-existing vg's... |
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| 00:01.42 | Lilldude10 | system file check command |
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| 00:02.20 | F0xy` | i didnt format this drive, i just pulled it from the machine and put it to one side, but it wont boot in any of my machines because they are all running different mobos/cpus than what it was origianlly running on |
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| 00:03.14 | De_Mon | F0xy` so use a stock kernel |
| 00:03.51 | De_Mon | F0xy` unless you put root on the LVM getting it to boot shouldn't be that difficult. |
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| 00:04.12 | F0xy` | how would that work if i cant even get past the initial boot, it stops/hangs on 'starting system logger' |
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| 00:04.45 | De_Mon | F0xy` pressing shift during boot up to get the boot screen (lilo or grub) |
| 00:05.05 | De_Mon | and setting root= something with a usable kernel |
| 00:05.06 | De_Mon | not root, boot |
| 00:05.25 | irevernetReveren | i am installing software suspend, and one of the steps is to edit my init script to add a line BEFORE the filesystems get mounted... where should I put this? |
| 00:05.27 | selfcontr0l | i can run `vlc foo.img` and it plays....can i do this with mplayer? |
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| 00:05.45 | De_Mon | selfcontr0l is .img a dvd? |
| 00:05.48 | selfcontr0l | yes |
| 00:05.52 | De_Mon | duno |
| 00:06.32 | selfcontr0l | mplayer will just play a little blurb from the file and quit...so i was wondering how i format the commandline |
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| 00:07.10 | De_Mon | selfcontr0l google says mplayer -dvd-device <dvd-image> will work |
| 00:07.30 | selfcontr0l | De_Mon: what did you type? |
| 00:07.37 | arch_initcall | irevernetReveren, the fs gets mounted at S35 iirc |
| 00:07.38 | selfcontr0l | De_Mon: into google? |
| 00:07.43 | De_Mon | http://lists.debian.org/cdwrite/2004/08/msg00225.html mplayer dvd image |
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| 00:07.58 | pdani | hi |
| 00:08.09 | selfcontr0l | De_Mon: thx |
| 00:08.09 | PerfDave | irevernetReveren: You may want to read "man init" |
| 00:08.15 | irevernetReveren | arch_initcall so do i just make a new script and name it, say S30? |
| 00:08.40 | arch_initcall | irevernetReveren, at S10 the root fs gets checked - i'd say S11 |
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| 00:08.57 | syn | hi there |
| 00:09.05 | arch_initcall | irevernetReveren, in /etc/rcS.d |
| 00:09.12 | syn | I have lots of authentication problems since upgrading courier |
| 00:09.23 | syn | does anyone have this issue too ? |
| 00:09.38 | PerfDave | syn: Are you running sid? |
| 00:09.43 | syn | no, sarge |
| 00:09.45 | De_Mon | syn what authentication method? |
| 00:09.48 | syn | ldap |
| 00:09.51 | pdani | why can't i ssh as root to debian machines with rsa-key based authentication? |
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| 00:10.10 | pdani | as simple user, i can |
| 00:10.11 | De_Mon | pdani because your sshd.conf says DO NOT LET ME SSH AS ROOT BECAUSE IT IS A BAD IDEA |
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| 00:10.27 | PerfDave | syn: How did you upgrade courier in Sarge? |
| 00:10.31 | pdani | PermitRootLogin yes |
| 00:10.37 | syn | apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; |
| 00:10.41 | De_Mon | pdani oh im sorry its /etc/ssh_config |
| 00:10.58 | arch_initcall | De_Mon, nah sshd_config ;) |
| 00:11.00 | syn | Dec 9 01:10:17 yoda authdaemond.ldap: Access denied for this host |
| 00:11.06 | pdani | De_Mon: my ssh_config is empty |
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| 00:11.38 | De_Mon | pdani listen to arch_initcall |
| 00:11.53 | resuDaed | could someone please look at http://solaria.no-ip.net/wtmp.1.txt for me and tell me if that is showing hard resets or the system rebooting or if you can't tell from that log |
| 00:12.03 | E-bola | Anybody knwo why Module pc87360 seems to be missing from debian sarge kernel 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 00:12.12 | pdani | i can ssh as root to that machine with the usual password-typing way |
| 00:12.19 | E-bola | acording to the lmsensors page its supposed ot be supported since version 2.8.7 |
| 00:12.19 | arch_initcall | syn, yoda.privatedns.com ? |
| 00:12.25 | syn | arch_initcall: no |
| 00:12.29 | syn | arch_initcall: yoda.sceen.net :p |
| 00:12.33 | arch_initcall | syn, ahh :( |
| 00:12.39 | pdani | but i can't with rsa-key based authentication (~/.ssh/authorized_keys2) |
| 00:12.47 | Wyzard | pdani: Forgot to put your public key on root's authorized-keys file? |
| 00:12.47 | syn | usually, the Force is with "him" :p |
| 00:12.48 | E-bola | and debian currently uses 2.9.1 |
| 00:12.49 | arch_initcall | pdani, are the keys owned by root |
| 00:12.54 | arch_initcall | pdani, and 0600 ? |
| 00:12.54 | jacm | i can't connect for cgi in posgres, help please |
| 00:12.55 | syn | but not tonight :p |
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| 00:13.02 | jacm | postgres |
| 00:13.06 | syn | PerfDave: any idea ? |
| 00:13.10 | pdani | Wyzard: no |
| 00:13.32 | PerfDave | syn: I'm still trying to work out how you upgraded courier in Sarge. |
| 00:13.34 | arch_initcall | pdani, well - I think the first step is - does it work with other users ? |
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| 00:13.43 | syn | 01:10 < syn> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; |
| 00:13.43 | jacm | my file pg_hba.conf is good |
| 00:13.44 | pdani | arch_initcall: yes, it works |
| 00:13.46 | Wyzard | pdani: Might help to turn up sshd's logging verbosity, make an attempt, and then look at the log |
| 00:13.48 | dondelelcaro | happy_broccoli: that's not the output though; I don't really care about the files in /var/log as they shouldn't be affecting anything. |
| 00:13.53 | syn | PerfDave: or if you prefer |
| 00:13.55 | syn | PerfDave: 01:10 < syn> apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; |
| 00:13.56 | arch_initcall | pdani, what Wyzard said |
| 00:13.57 | Wyzard | pdani: But it's better to log in as a normal user and then "su" or "sudo" anyway |
| 00:13.58 | jacm | and mi script too |
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| 00:14.07 | syn | PerfDave: i sometimes forget to highlight people |
| 00:14.08 | dondelelcaro | takisd: dpkg -S |
| 00:14.10 | selfcontr0l | De_Mon: heh i still can't duplicate your search, did you search list.debian.org only? (just curious how you found the answer so fast) |
| 00:14.17 | dondelelcaro | takisd: dpkg -S vmlinuz-2.4.18-bf2.4; if you haven't already figured it out. |
| 00:14.22 | PerfDave | syn: Yeah, I'm trying to work out why that worked. I suspect you're not actually running Sarge. |
| 00:14.27 | pdani | Wyzard: i know, but it's a special case |
| 00:14.32 | pdani | hm |
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| 00:14.33 | happy_broccoli | dondelelcaro: not var log, var |
| 00:14.33 | syn | PerfDave: i am, why wouldn't it work ? |
| 00:14.45 | PerfDave | syn: Because Sarge doesn't get upgraded versions of software |
| 00:14.53 | PerfDave | syn: You're upgrading from Woody? |
| 00:14.54 | syn | PerfDave: except for security updates |
| 00:14.56 | blockd_ | pdani: have you tried using the -v flag with ssh for more information? It's pretty verbose but it might help diagnose what's going on. |
| 00:15.09 | PerfDave | syn: Which aren't upgrades :) |
| 00:15.26 | PerfDave | syn: I was just waiting for security.debian.org to load, it's taking an age. |
| 00:15.27 | syn | PerfDave: well, I subscribed to the debian security annoucement list |
| 00:15.33 | pdani | blockd_: thx |
| 00:15.41 | syn | PerfDave: and followed the instructions |
| 00:15.44 | syn | and it usually works well |
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| 00:17.02 | PerfDave | syn: Did you check the BTS? |
| 00:17.08 | syn | PerfDave: BTS ? |
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| 00:17.21 | arch_initcall | Excuse me while I think out loud - Anyone tried the KDE 3.5 packages on alioth ? |
| 00:18.09 | PerfDave | syn: http://bugs.debian.org/ |
| 00:18.21 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: #debian-kde probably have :) |
| 00:18.31 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, ahh true :) |
| 00:18.32 | syn | PerfDave: thanks |
| 00:18.42 | pdani | debug1: Trying private key: /home/pdani/.ssh/id_dsa |
| 00:18.42 | pdani | debug1: Next authentication method: keyboard-interactive |
| 00:19.07 | elastico | good night, I am looking for a utility that tapeworm before in kde, this was a map mundi with the possibility of putting flags indicating itself in those positions the hour at that moment, somebody knows as it is called. |
| 00:19.07 | psychonate | Anyone know a tool I can use to copy a DVD and *REMOVE* the region code thereof? |
| 00:19.42 | calmar | hi all, When I want to run a command with crontab every hours, but additionally on every startup, how could I do that (without an @reboot entry?) not really possible is it? |
| 00:19.58 | PerfDave | psychonate: Just use a recent libdvdcss2 or flash the firmware on your DVD player :) |
| 00:20.12 | Wyzard | psychonate: You'd need to DeCSS it, which is illegal in some countries |
| 00:20.15 | psychonate | PerfDave, well, I want to watch it on a player, which unfortunately isn't region free |
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| 00:20.24 | psychonate | I have no problem watching it on my PC |
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| 00:20.42 | psychonate | s/player/standalone player |
| 00:20.51 | E-bola | Hmmm where can i find a 2.6.10 or newer kernel image? |
| 00:20.54 | PerfDave | psychonate: Meh, I just bought a region-unlocked set-top box :) |
| 00:20.58 | E-bola | my sarge aptitude only has up to 2.6.8 |
| 00:21.05 | PerfDave | E-bola: Why do you want one? |
| 00:21.05 | pdani | hm |
| 00:21.10 | pdani | i cut in the wrong line |
| 00:21.16 | E-bola | perfdave: i need a kernel module introduced in 2.6.10 |
| 00:21.22 | E-bola | for monitoring temperatures |
| 00:21.23 | PerfDave | E-bola: backports.org? |
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| 00:21.30 | E-bola | kernel modules are backported? |
| 00:21.40 | Wyzard | whole kernel packages are |
| 00:21.41 | PerfDave | kernel-image packages may be. |
| 00:21.43 | levander | When people put these wierd repositories in their sources.list, how are they making sure they still install packages (if available) from the official repositories and not the wierd ones? |
| 00:21.45 | PerfDave | Or linux-image packages. |
| 00:21.58 | pdani | debug1: Offering public key: /home/pdani/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 00:21.58 | pdani | debug3: send_pubkey_test |
| 00:22.04 | E-bola | would prefer if i could just get the module |
| 00:22.09 | pdani | and then nothing |
| 00:22.10 | E-bola | since im quite content with 2.6.8 |
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| 00:22.19 | PerfDave | levander: The point of putting weird repositories in your sources.list is to get packages from those repositories. |
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| 00:22.49 | PerfDave | E-bola: Well, that would involve backporting the module from the 2.6.10 source to the 2.6.8 source (and dealing with any API changes between them, which are common in 2.6) and compiling it all *g* |
| 00:22.49 | Wyzard | E-bola: You'd have to backport the driver yourself then... a module compiled against 2.6.10 isn't likely to work on your 2.6.8 |
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| 00:23.08 | dondelelcaro | happy_broccoli: doesn't really matter; the shouldn't be affecting whatever error you're seeing, assuming that's what your original question was. |
| 00:23.13 | levander | PerfDave: but I only want specific limited packages from those repositories, if it's available in the official repositories, I want it from the official repositories, not the wierd ones. Is there a way I can make sure the official repositories have precendence? |
| 00:23.19 | E-bola | hmmm bummer |
| 00:23.31 | E-bola | i cant seem to find any 2.6.10 kernel image on backports either? |
| 00:23.34 | PerfDave | levander: You might be able to do it with apt_preferences but I'm not sure. |
| 00:23.37 | pdani | hm |
| 00:23.40 | PerfDave | E-bola: It might be called linux-image |
| 00:23.42 | pdani | i found somethign |
| 00:23.51 | E-bola | zap-w? |
| 00:24.24 | E-bola | perfdave: no go either for linux-image |
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| 00:24.48 | en1gma | hi all |
| 00:24.55 | en1gma | hows everyone doing |
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| 00:25.20 | en1gma | i got a Q about debian....is there an all 64bit release out or gonna be avil in near future? |
| 00:25.24 | PerfDave | E-bola: Oh well, you may have to backport it yourself. |
| 00:25.30 | PerfDave | en1gma: /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 00:25.37 | pdani | blockd_: Authentication refused: bad ownership or modes for directory /root |
| 00:25.40 | PerfDave | There have been 64 bit releases of Debian for nearly a decade :) |
| 00:25.46 | E-bola | perfdave: considering i havent even compiled a kernel myself, i doubt that will happen... |
| 00:25.46 | en1gma | thnx |
| 00:25.46 | E-bola | :/ |
| 00:25.58 | blockd_ | pdani: ah, make sure /root/.ssh is 700 or stricter |
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| 00:26.13 | PerfDave | E-bola: Bah, it shouldn't be too tricky. You can always try apt-get.org or something |
| 00:26.35 | PerfDave | And make-kpkg makes compiling kernels fairly unproblematic. |
| 00:26.36 | BrainDamage | hello, i need little help... :))) i have debian 3.1. i have changed mount points of my cdrom device and dvdrom device, and now, synaptic doesn't recognize that devices. Is there any hope for me ??? :))) |
| 00:26.38 | blockd_ | pdani: probably wouldn't hurt to also make sure /root isn't world readable or executable |
| 00:26.56 | pdani | blockd_: /root is rwxrwxrwx |
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| 00:27.03 | blockd_ | pdani: ouch ;) |
| 00:27.17 | Zap-W | ye, what's the perfomance difference in using amd64 over i386 |
| 00:27.21 | neenee | good evening one and all. today i have been getting various 404 errors while trying to run 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade' - various files were not found on the mirrors. is this something which occurs often and i should not worry about? or is there a problem with my configuration? |
| 00:27.25 | pdani | blockd_: any workarounds? |
| 00:27.29 | blockd_ | pdani: chmod |
| 00:27.39 | PerfDave | Zap-W: Depends entirely on what you're doing. Benchmark! :) |
| 00:27.40 | blockd_ | pdani: chmod go= /root |
| 00:27.40 | pdani | it's not a possibility :( |
| 00:27.51 | Zap-W | PerfDave: playing tetris |
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| 00:27.55 | PerfDave | Zap-W: Though I think if you want >4Gb of RAM you have to go to amd64 over i386 |
| 00:27.57 | BrainDamage | hellooooo... :))) |
| 00:27.59 | BrainDamage | hello, i need little help... :))) i have debian 3.1. i have changed mount points of my cdrom device and dvdrom device, and now, synaptic doesn't recognize that devices. Is there any hope for me ??? :))) |
| 00:28.08 | PerfDave | !tell BrainDamage -about repeat |
| 00:28.14 | oKtosiTe | :) |
| 00:28.29 | PerfDave | Zap-W: I spent a few months with a quad Opteron with 8Gb RAM doing nothing but running xeyes over ssh. |
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| 00:28.46 | Zap-W | PerfDave: what a waste.. |
| 00:29.01 | E-bola | i found some on apt-get.org |
| 00:29.01 | blockd_ | pdani: well ssh is rightfully complaining about those permissions. It's analagous to anybody on the system being able to set your password. |
| 00:29.03 | E-bola | ile try those |
| 00:29.06 | oKtosiTe | neenee: I had the same with my Dutch mirror |
| 00:29.06 | E-bola | thanks perfdave |
| 00:29.09 | Epod69 | hey everyone, i get gmake: command not found. Is there a deb package I can install through apt so I can use gmake? |
| 00:29.09 | PerfDave | Zap-W: I was burning it in! I used it for distmp3enc too. |
| 00:29.09 | BrainDamage | sorry :))) |
| 00:29.13 | PerfDave | E-bola: No worries. |
| 00:29.23 | PerfDave | E-bola: /msg dpkg search |
| 00:29.24 | blockd_ | pdani: I take it you mean /root on the remote side is 0777? |
| 00:29.25 | PerfDave | Argh |
| 00:29.29 | PerfDave | Epod69: /msg dpkg search |
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| 00:29.37 | neenee | oktosite: i see. i am using a dutch mirror as well. shall i assume that it will correct itself with time? |
| 00:29.46 | foo | If I am on testing .. and I want to convert to unstable, can I just modify my sources and apt-get update and apt-get upgrade? |
| 00:29.47 | PerfDave | Epod69: though gmake usually refers to "GNU make" which is just "make" on GNU/LInux systems. What are you trhing to make? |
| 00:29.56 | PerfDave | foo: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 00:29.57 | EvilSporkMan | I'm behind a NAT box that I control and I'm trying to run ourtunes/Get It Together (iTunes share clients). If I forward ports 3689 and 5353 to this box, I can manually connect to iTunes shares, but they're not detected automatically. I think I need some kind of proxy on the NAT box? what exactly do I need to install? |
| 00:30.03 | oKtosiTe | neenee: not sure, I'm happy waiting a few days to see... |
| 00:30.07 | neenee | :) |
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| 00:30.20 | levander | Is there any way to do an 'ls' on a repository? |
| 00:30.23 | neenee | then i will wait and see what happens as well - thanks for the prompt and friendly reply :) |
| 00:30.59 | Epod69 | im trying to install openrm following these instructions: http://computing.ee.ethz.ch/sepp-debian/openrm-1.5.1-rs.SEPP/INSTALL |
| 00:31.13 | oKtosiTe | neenee: sometimes when it gets busy here it's hard to keep up :) |
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| 00:31.30 | neenee | :) |
| 00:31.56 | neenee | that's why i'm glad irc-clients have hilighting :) |
| 00:32.04 | Epod69 | PerfDave, have you ever had any luck installing openrm ? |
| 00:32.29 | oKtosiTe | neenee: and lastlog is very nice in irssi |
| 00:32.36 | PerfDave | Epod69: I've never heard of openrm |
| 00:32.47 | Epod69 | PerfDave, its needed for a game |
| 00:32.58 | neenee | oktosite: indeed :) |
| 00:33.07 | Epod69 | and those instructions dont work and there is no deb for openrm =( |
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| 00:33.09 | PerfDave | Epod69: However, if you're hand-compiling stuff on Debian, /msg dpkg usrlocal |
| 00:33.31 | neenee | oktosite: i have an irssi alias called 'hilog' which does '/lastlog -hilight' :) |
| 00:33.57 | oKtosiTe | neenee: I should make one too. I've been meaning to. |
| 00:34.01 | neenee | :) |
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| 00:34.50 | Epod69 | PerfDave, I have manually installed apps before, but this software doesnt install with ./configure... you have to type make linux-debug then type make install |
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| 00:35.00 | eka | hi all |
| 00:35.03 | xai | Anyone know where the debian version of grub-set-default is? i see it not in the grub package, nor any other package of etch ... ?? |
| 00:35.09 | eka | where to set environment variables? |
| 00:35.28 | PerfDave | eka: Where do you want these environement variables to be visible? |
| 00:35.35 | eka | gnome and kde |
| 00:35.37 | PerfDave | Epod69: Then check the makefile to make sure it's not spewing crap over your filesystem and breaking apt? |
| 00:35.38 | mhall | I'm encountering some horribly broken CD / DVD burning in 2.6.14. Often my burner goes into DMA mode. I have twisted pair cables and it never used to do this. Does anybody else have this problem? |
| 00:35.40 | Epod69 | PerfDave, but when I do that it does work, it says cp: cannot stat `lib': No such file or directory |
| 00:35.50 | PerfDave | Epod69: When you do what? |
| 00:35.55 | mhall | I'm encountering some horribly broken CD / DVD burning in 2.6.14. Often my burner goes into *PIO* mode. I have twisted pair cables and it never used to do this. Does anybody else have this problem? |
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| 00:36.31 | Epod69 | if i type how the install file says to, doing make linux-debug then make install, when I type make install it gives that error |
| 00:36.36 | Epod69 | PerfDave:* |
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| 00:36.43 | mhall | eka: for you or everybody |
| 00:36.51 | eka | everybody |
| 00:36.55 | mhall | eka: /etc/profile |
| 00:37.06 | eka | mhall: dont know why doenst work |
| 00:37.07 | Epod69 | this is what happens: jesse-ibm-black:/home/jesse/rm160# make install |
| 00:37.08 | Epod69 | Installing into /usr/local/rm160... |
| 00:37.09 | Epod69 | Installing header files in /usr/local/rm160/include... |
| 00:37.11 | Epod69 | Installing libraries in /usr/local/rm160/lib... |
| 00:37.12 | Epod69 | cp: cannot stat `lib': No such file or directory |
| 00:37.14 | Epod69 | make: *** [install] Error 1 |
| 00:37.15 | mhall | eka: funny |
| 00:37.18 | mhall | eka: what shell |
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| 00:37.22 | eka | bash |
| 00:37.30 | mhall | eka: and see if it works from shell launch of x not display manager |
| 00:37.31 | eka | but even i want them to be seen inside gnome |
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| 00:37.49 | eka | mhall: again? |
| 00:37.50 | arch_initcall | Hey small question, slightly off-topic - my mom just asked me for a PC for christmas she just wants to surf, email, and openoffce -- must be small and quite - any idea on what I should get/look for ? |
| 00:37.53 | mhall | eka: yeah gnome would see them if the user's account seems them |
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| 00:38.03 | eka | i tryied .bashrc |
| 00:38.06 | xai | I keep seeing references to grub-set-default commands in the info pages, but it never gets included in the package.... |
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| 00:38.19 | mhall | arch_initcall: what's the budget |
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| 00:38.32 | eka | from gnome terminal was working but from inside a gnome program like eclipse didnt |
| 00:38.38 | PerfDave | Epod69: It looks like there's an error in the makefile then :) |
| 00:38.39 | arch_initcall | mhall, say 800$ no screen |
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| 00:38.55 | mhall | arch_initcall: hmm for 800 you could get a turion laptop |
| 00:38.57 | Epod69 | PerfDave: whats so smiley face about it =P |
| 00:38.58 | arch_initcall | 800 being a big max |
| 00:39.00 | PerfDave | You can get a top machien for 800$ which is more than good enough for surfing and e-mail :) |
| 00:39.16 | PerfDave | Epod69: It represents a challenge which will make you a better person when you fix it :) |
| 00:39.18 | mhall | arch_initcall: hmm look on gotapex.com for dell coupon codes |
| 00:39.19 | arch_initcall | Yeah but isn't openoffice "heavy" ? |
| 00:39.20 | Epod69 | PerfDave, lol, top machine |
| 00:39.21 | oKtosiTe | neenee: I also added an alias for lastlog -clear :-P |
| 00:39.27 | mhall | arch_initcall: OOo runs on my Ath XP 1800 |
| 00:39.30 | blockd_ | eka: I think those only get read in on login shells (even then only bash compatible ones), but whatever script runs the display manager isn't being called as a login shell |
| 00:39.34 | mhall | arch_initcall: 1.5 ghz |
| 00:39.41 | mhall | arch_initcall: and it runs fast for me |
| 00:39.48 | blockd_ | s/runs/starts etc../ |
| 00:39.50 | eka | blockd: so what can i do |
| 00:39.51 | arch_initcall | yeah but I have a 2800+ and she finds it a bit slow |
| 00:39.51 | neenee | oktosite: :) nice too indeed |
| 00:40.01 | mhall | arch_initcall: ! wtf |
| 00:40.12 | Epod69 | arch_initcall, then get a 4800 x2 =P |
| 00:40.14 | PerfDave | If a 2800+ is too slow for e-mail and web browsing, your system is screwed somehow. |
| 00:40.22 | mhall | arch_initcall: there is some other problem |
| 00:40.28 | mhall | arch_initcall: 2800 should be fast |
| 00:40.30 | arch_initcall | Yeah the .doc are 75Mb |
| 00:40.33 | PerfDave | Hell, you can browse, check mail and word process on a 300MHz P2 |
| 00:40.42 | mhall | arch_initcall: 75 MEGABYTE DOCUMENTS? |
| 00:40.48 | blockd_ | eka: I'd have to poke about to find out... when I used another distro I just used startx so I put that in my .xinitrc but that won't work for you. |
| 00:40.54 | Epod69 | PerfDave, if you are using blackbox maybe |
| 00:41.00 | eka | yea |
| 00:41.01 | arch_initcall | yeah she's reading/editting history documents |
| 00:41.02 | eka | didnt |
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| 00:41.08 | mhall | arch_initcall: hmm |
| 00:41.08 | arch_initcall | dictionaries and stuff |
| 00:41.12 | oKtosiTe | arch_initcall: PIII 866 is still fine for most of my needs. |
| 00:41.13 | mhall | arch_initcall: oh shit |
| 00:41.14 | Duelist | My Athlon 500 is fast enough for e-mail and Web browsing, now that it has a decent amount of memory in it |
| 00:41.14 | oKtosiTe | neenee: gotta go though, work starts at nine. |
| 00:41.21 | eka | blockd: somethimes i hate linux for this kind of silly things |
| 00:41.36 | PerfDave | Epod69: Eh? |
| 00:41.37 | eka | in windoze it is so easy |
| 00:41.37 | mhall | arch_initcall: alright first thing would be good 2d video card |
| 00:41.39 | neenee | oktosite: take care and cya around perhaps :) |
| 00:41.46 | mhall | arch_initcall: with linux accelerated driver |
| 00:41.48 | arch_initcall | So I donno - Prebuilt or I make it ? |
| 00:41.59 | eka | when /etc/profile is called? on boot only? |
| 00:42.07 | oKtosiTe | neenee: of course :) |
| 00:42.10 | mhall | arch_initcall: like probably an nvidia GF lowend card |
| 00:42.16 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Prebuilt, life's too short to diagnose hardware yourself. You want your mum to be able to have someone else deal with it when it goes wong :) |
| 00:42.17 | mhall | arch_initcall: so that stuff will scroll fast |
| 00:42.22 | Epod69 | PerfDave, 300mhz p2 is way too slow be running linux with kde, for me at least, ive tried...... |
| 00:42.30 | oKtosiTe | neenee: you too, good night |
| 00:42.34 | arch_initcall | I have a GeForce 2 GTS AGP not used here... |
| 00:42.38 | mhall | arch_initcall: just get a dell with coupon codes so you aren't on the hook if shit hits the fan |
| 00:42.46 | PerfDave | Epod69: *shrug* That was my last desktop system. 300MHz P2, 128Mb RAM, KDE. Worked fine. |
| 00:42.59 | mhall | arch_initcall: that that gf2 card should be fine if the box doesn't come with a decent card of its own |
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| 00:43.11 | arch_initcall | mhall, PerfDave, yeah thanks |
| 00:43.12 | douglas | if you have an amd k7 kernel running on a p4 machine, are we talking any significant speeds and efficiencies or is it no big whoop? |
| 00:43.15 | mhall | arch_initcall: and make sure to use OOo 2.x.x because it's faster |
| 00:43.26 | blockd_ | eka: login shells I believe... doesn't actually mean you have to "log in" though. The info's there in the bash man page if you search for the "invocation" section |
| 00:43.26 | Epod69 | brb |
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| 00:43.26 | douglas | any significant speed slow-downs that is |
| 00:43.27 | arch_initcall | mhall, Of course ! :) |
| 00:43.32 | PerfDave | douglas: I wouldnt' expect a k7 kernel to work on a p4 |
| 00:43.33 | mhall | douglas: hmm it'd be better to do it right |
| 00:43.40 | mhall | arch_initcall: just wanted to be sure to mention it |
| 00:43.47 | douglas | perf, mhall: just mixing and matching HDs |
| 00:43.51 | blockd_ | eka: in other words, it's probably not going to help... |
| 00:43.52 | douglas | i can handle the apt get :) |
| 00:43.57 | arch_initcall | mhall, no harm done :) |
| 00:44.09 | PerfDave | douglas: Make sure you don't hit a k7-specific instruction then :p |
| 00:44.15 | eka | blockd_: so... what to do |
| 00:44.27 | mhall | PerfDave: probably won't in kernel |
| 00:44.31 | mhall | PerfDave: don't think it does sse |
| 00:44.37 | mhall | PerfDave: or 3dnow |
| 00:44.45 | arch_initcall | mhall, won't it test for 3Dnow ? |
| 00:44.53 | douglas | So the k7 "windows xp" AMD chip kernels .. they make a difference than straight up *86? |
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| 00:45.00 | douglas | (when you're running the amd) |
| 00:45.20 | douglas | i always thought the widnwos enhanced thing was bs |
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| 00:45.39 | arch_initcall | mhall, I belive the kernel will detect this very early and give up |
| 00:45.47 | blockd_ | eka: search google maybe... "kdm environment variable" turns up a lot of discussion on a mailing list. There doesn' t seem to be a totally clean solution, but it should be possible. |
| 00:45.53 | pdani | blockd_: yes |
| 00:45.53 | mhall | arch_initcall: yeah that would make sense for them to do that |
| 00:46.02 | blockd_ | eka: it's probably applicable in general |
| 00:46.20 | eka | blockd_: trying that |
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| 00:46.33 | pdani | blockd_: and it should be 0777, so changing it isn't an option |
| 00:46.37 | eka | blockd_: thanks for your help |
| 00:46.53 | blockd_ | pdani: but why? |
| 00:47.03 | mhall | if i fry ONE MORE GOD DAMN DVD i swear i'll go psycho all over this bitch |
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| 00:47.16 | mhall | i'll be throwing it so far in the sky the sky will start crying |
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| 00:47.23 | mhall | yeah, everybody will think it's rain |
| 00:47.28 | mhall | but i'll know the truth |
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| 00:47.31 | douglas | mhall: i got some good pills for that (if you dont want to go psycho that is when under the stress) |
| 00:47.48 | mhall | this is some seriously nuclear fucking shit |
| 00:47.52 | mhall | i am so fucking mad |
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| 00:48.10 | mhall | it's supposed to be unix |
| 00:48.15 | mhall | it's not supposed to fuck up this much |
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| 00:48.26 | mhall | this shit is why i ditched windows |
| 00:48.35 | douglas | woah hey let's not say anything we're going to regret |
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| 00:48.51 | Uchiha | Excuse me |
| 00:48.55 | douglas | you also switched because of cute penguins and demons |
| 00:49.09 | RichiH | douglas: on linux, there are only daemons |
| 00:49.14 | pdani | blockd_: 'couse my boss want it to be world-read-writable :))) in a nutshell |
| 00:49.16 | Uchiha | I need to figure out the name of a kernel module |
| 00:49.17 | douglas | RichiH: touche |
| 00:49.22 | mhall | douglas: uh no |
| 00:49.28 | Uchiha | menuconfig doesn't tell me |
| 00:49.40 | mhall | douglas: touché |
| 00:49.41 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, what are you looking for ? |
| 00:49.51 | Uchiha | The module name for DRN |
| 00:49.53 | Uchiha | DRM* |
| 00:50.01 | douglas | mhall: not on my term :) |
| 00:50.05 | douglas | console rather |
| 00:50.13 | blockd_ | pdani: hm... well I don't know how to circumvent ssh's security checks without altering code. They're there for a reason. |
| 00:50.18 | PerfDave | Linux has DRM now? That's it, I'm switching back to BSD :) |
| 00:50.20 | arch_initcall | mhall, I hapen to be in ISO-8859-1 you insensitive clod |
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| 00:50.28 | arch_initcall | :) |
| 00:50.32 | blockd_ | pdani: might as well make /etc/shadow world readable/writable :/ |
| 00:50.35 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: I need to know the module name for DRM |
| 00:50.41 | pdani | blockd_: :)) |
| 00:50.44 | pdani | k |
| 00:50.47 | pdani | hm |
| 00:50.48 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, Dear god - why do you need that |
| 00:51.16 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: I need to get hardware acceleration for my SiS chipset |
| 00:51.24 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, Ohhh that DRM |
| 00:51.29 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: Do you know what it's called? |
| 00:51.33 | mhall | it's not my fault you ass clowns don't use UTF8 |
| 00:51.48 | mhall | that fuckup is all over you guys |
| 00:51.54 | arch_initcall | mhall, tell me how to put xchat 2 in UTF-8 and I will |
| 00:52.00 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, what chipset |
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| 00:52.05 | mhall | arch_initcall: it's all about the irssi man |
| 00:52.12 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Using xchat is technically a fuckup, when there's irssi *g* |
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| 00:52.24 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: um |
| 00:52.25 | mhall | PerfDave: thanks for the backup PerfDave |
| 00:52.29 | arch_initcall | Hey hey, I happen to like xchat2 ! |
| 00:52.33 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: I don't know exactly |
| 00:52.34 | sonyman | has anyone else had problems installing mplayer from nerim's ftp? |
| 00:52.43 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: SiS 300 series or something |
| 00:52.44 | mhall | douglas: if this breaks you get to keep both pieces |
| 00:52.59 | douglas | Brilliant. |
| 00:53.01 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, it it supported ? |
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| 00:53.05 | jbroome | douglas: if she does, she'll beat you with a wire hangar |
| 00:53.06 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: Yes |
| 00:53.13 | sfire||mouse | douglas: she will probably notice, and assume her spawn tweaked the computer again |
| 00:53.14 | douglas | I hate wire hangers!!! |
| 00:53.17 | mhall | jbroome: not as long as he backed up the data |
| 00:53.19 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: All I need to do is get load DRM |
| 00:53.19 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, gimme a sec |
| 00:53.26 | mhall | douglas: did you back up the data |
| 00:53.44 | douglas | mhall: umm.. her data's primarily on her aol inbox |
| 00:53.46 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, did the DRI load ? |
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| 00:53.50 | Uchiha | Yes |
| 00:53.59 | mhall | douglas: won't she miss aol? |
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| 00:54.02 | douglas | that's another thing she's about to get weened from |
| 00:54.06 | douglas | cold turkey |
| 00:54.10 | mhall | douglas: ah alright good |
| 00:54.19 | mhall | douglas: you're going hardcore gonzo style on that shit |
| 00:54.30 | mhall | alright i g2g for a bit |
| 00:54.34 | mhall | and reboot this shitbox |
| 00:54.36 | mhall | exit |
| 00:54.38 | douglas | I feel that this is the right thing to do ... God's work, if you will,.... but on a lower scale |
| 00:54.42 | sfire||mouse | aol has actually gotten somewhat decent recently. they provide anti-virus and spyware apps |
| 00:54.47 | dvs | !exit |
| 00:54.47 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
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| 00:55.15 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, the SiS DRM driver needs Linux < 2.6.3 |
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| 00:55.40 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: then why is it in my kernel? |
| 00:55.49 | arch_initcall | The DRM module ? |
| 00:55.55 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: yes |
| 00:56.03 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, how do you know it's there ? |
| 00:56.04 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: direct rendering manager |
| 00:56.08 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: and |
| 00:56.16 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: and support for sis video cards |
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| 00:56.24 | Uchiha | arch_initcall: because I'm looking at it right now |
| 00:56.28 | litage | i added /dev/sdb10 to the raid-1 array /dev/md6. reconstruction finished, and /proc/mdstat said everything was fine. i rebooted, and sdb10 was no longer part of md6...any ideas?: http://rafb.net/paste/results/F2R8Xd33.html |
| 00:56.35 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, eh... well.. load it ? |
| 00:56.47 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, I thought you were looking for it |
| 00:57.04 | sonyman | has anyone else had problems installing mplayer from nerim's ftp? with libjack, and others? |
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| 00:57.18 | Uchiha | I can't load it |
| 00:57.24 | Uchiha | Unless you tell me the name of it |
| 00:57.45 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, well if you're looking at it - you know it's name no ? |
| 00:58.04 | Uchiha | I don't know the name of the module |
| 00:58.13 | Uchiha | I'm in menuconfig |
| 00:58.18 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, ohh |
| 00:58.21 | Uchiha | And the help doesn't tell me |
| 00:58.37 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, yeah it does |
| 00:58.39 | douglas | Debian will probably never get pushed as the preinstalled linux distro of choice for big guys like IBM to sell, right? Is that just because there is no Debian $5/min "How to config sound" hotline? Things gotta be completely commercial to perk interests of these guys even in spite of categorical superiority? |
| 00:58.41 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, "If M is selected the module will be called sis." |
| 00:58.48 | Uchiha | ok |
| 00:58.53 | Uchiha | um |
| 00:59.00 | PerfDave | douglas: Uhm, what *are* you talking about? |
| 00:59.06 | Uchiha | but above that is the module for direct rendering manager |
| 00:59.11 | Uchiha | That's what I need to load |
| 00:59.17 | douglas | PerfDave: just wondering if i'll ever hear debian mentioned on cnbc |
| 00:59.23 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, please prefix my name |
| 00:59.31 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, sis is the module name for the DRM |
| 00:59.37 | douglas | beyond that, just the amphetamine talking |
| 00:59.42 | PerfDave | douglas: There are plenty of corporate entities which support Debian on hardware. I'm fairly sure that HP do. |
| 01:00.05 | douglas | Support and push as the default are different |
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| 01:00.19 | dondelelcaro | you can get it installed too. |
| 01:00.40 | arch_initcall | Uchiha, the DRI module is called sis-agp |
| 01:00.56 | douglas | PerfDave: for my imminent buying inclinations, just so i know, who is the laptop brand to avoid for linux purposes |
| 01:01.09 | douglas | or is this just a video card thing |
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| 01:01.33 | jan_ | Hmm, i'm kinda confused: i generated a public & private key on system A, i transfered the public key of system A to ~/.ssh/authorized_keys on system B, so then i should be able to ssh from A to B without a password, right? |
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| 01:02.37 | vulture | jan_: assuming that feature is enabled in sshd on B.. |
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| 01:03.40 | dvs | jan_: No, vice versa I think |
| 01:03.52 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: you basterd i heard you got my computer to work.. |
| 01:04.04 | vulture | jan_: what problem[s] are you experiencing? |
| 01:04.17 | douglas | anybody having good luck (good uptimes rather) running with sid? |
| 01:04.18 | jan_ | it asks for a password :P |
| 01:04.19 | jan_ | RSAAuthentication yes |
| 01:04.19 | jan_ | PubkeyAuthentication yes |
| 01:04.27 | arch_initcall | douglas, yes |
| 01:04.30 | blockd_ | dvs: seems the right way to me. Could be another permissions problem... |
| 01:04.36 | vulture | jan_: how did you generate the key, exactly? |
| 01:04.47 | jan_ | ssh-keygen -t rsa |
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| 01:04.59 | arch_initcall | douglas, about 123 days |
| 01:05.03 | douglas | No s. |
| 01:05.07 | lasala | I like to give chroot access to a custom group... how can i do that ? |
| 01:05.19 | douglas | which kernel arch? |
| 01:05.29 | TwistedEmotions | I guess not.. |
| 01:05.31 | irevernetReveren | I just applied the software suspend patch to my kernel, and now, when I resume from a suspend, I get a "VFS: Cannot open root device" error, any ideas how to fix it? |
| 01:05.35 | arch_initcall | douglas, an early 2.6-i386 |
| 01:05.52 | douglas | doing any heavy serving or just desktop use? |
| 01:05.57 | arch_initcall | douglas, server |
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| 01:06.11 | blockd_ | jan_: what are your perms on ~/.ssh? |
| 01:06.11 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: you there? |
| 01:06.11 | douglas | Sold .. Mommy gets to run sid. |
| 01:06.17 | lasala | was my question a RTFM question ? |
| 01:06.20 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: eh? it's working, but I haven't got the wireless and sound working yet. |
| 01:06.22 | arch_initcall | uname -a ;uptime |
| 01:06.22 | arch_initcall | Linux bluebird 2.6.11.7 #1 SMP Sat Apr 9 20:55:01 EDT 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 01:06.22 | arch_initcall | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:06.38 | douglas | hey i believed you buddy |
| 01:06.47 | douglas | 1.96, whatchya doing with all that load |
| 01:06.54 | TwistedEmotions | dondelelcaro: oh... ;( I heard you got wireless working.. which I was under the impression there was no driver for. |
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| 01:07.03 | jan_ | blockd_: 700 |
| 01:07.06 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: well, there is a driver for it, but I haven't got it working yet. |
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| 01:07.08 | jan_ | 0700 even :P |
| 01:07.13 | arch_initcall | douglas, it's a development server (semi devel) |
| 01:07.20 | dondelelcaro | TwistedEmotions: I haven't had time to figure out why it's not linking in __udelay like it should be. |
| 01:07.26 | arch_initcall | douglas, heavy used tho |
| 01:07.40 | douglas | arch_initcall: have you always been a sid guy with deb |
| 01:07.51 | blockd_ | jan_: hm :/ anything interesting from using the -v flag like I asked somebody before? |
| 01:07.51 | arch_initcall | douglas, yes |
| 01:08.09 | blockd_ | jan_: or maybe there's something in the system log... |
| 01:08.10 | douglas | do you think the Community is a little too conservative in moving things down from sid |
| 01:08.16 | TwistedEmotions | you all are gy |
| 01:08.18 | TwistedEmotions | gay |
| 01:08.34 | arch_initcall | douglas, depends - for desktop yes |
| 01:08.58 | arch_initcall | douglas, for real-world production critical server I think testing is fine |
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| 01:10.04 | jan_ | blockd_: hmm, nothing usefull, but i'm going to take a fresh start :) |
| 01:10.10 | douglas | arch_initcall: is installing sid-level versions of, say, gaim or gimp, maybe oo, on a etch system a little too risky? and vice versa even worse? |
| 01:10.47 | arch_initcall | douglas, Right now, yes - aren't they doing a ABI transition ? |
| 01:10.55 | arch_initcall | s/a/an |
| 01:11.04 | douglas | lost me right there. |
| 01:11.10 | arch_initcall | hehe |
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| 01:11.13 | douglas | i guess that means i should not be running sid |
| 01:11.25 | arch_initcall | No I mean run Sid OR etch |
| 01:11.27 | blockd_ | jan_: I don't think you even need RSAAuthentication for version 2, so your other setting /should/ be sufficient AFAIK |
| 01:11.37 | douglas | oh |
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| 01:12.06 | douglas | who's they, the debian hacker people or the gimp people |
| 01:12.28 | arch_initcall | Deb ppl - as a whole |
| 01:12.42 | douglas | i'd hope so, that would save me a sketchy move |
| 01:13.07 | douglas | ah screw it .. brb in 13 hours, starting a sid install |
| 01:13.12 | arch_initcall | :) |
| 01:13.16 | arch_initcall | That's the spirit ! |
| 01:13.18 | douglas | by hour 13 i should have bitchx installed |
| 01:13.31 | douglas | Then it'll be time to config sound |
| 01:13.34 | arch_initcall | 13 hours you should have a full-blown desktop |
| 01:13.35 | |splat| | once you run cfdisk, is there a command to see what /dev/hda's you have? |
| 01:13.47 | RichiH | lasala: huh? |
| 01:13.49 | douglas | arch_initcall: sounds like you're one of those people who has "luck" |
| 01:13.52 | dvs | douglas: 13 hours? dail-up? |
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| 01:13.55 | douglas | or someone who "Knows what htey're doing" |
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| 01:14.03 | douglas | dvs: no, anticipated obstacles |
| 01:14.10 | dvs | douglas: Oh, ok. |
| 01:14.18 | dUICE | will debain work on a PII 300 with 256MB mem? |
| 01:14.18 | arch_initcall | douglas, I know what I'm doing with a lot of luck :P |
| 01:14.28 | dvs | douglas: It still takes me three times to get a new install right. |
| 01:14.32 | douglas | well put arch |
| 01:14.40 | |splat| | when i ran cfdisk, it looked like it made /dev/hda1p1 and /devhda1p2 which i've never seen listed like that before |
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| 01:14.57 | douglas | dvs: well at least you are smart enough to know when to pull out and start over.. i'll just keep doubling down and down |
| 01:15.00 | Muffie | hello to all friends. |
| 01:15.09 | douglas | re muff |
| 01:15.13 | jan_ | blockd_: got it, the perms of the /root directory were 770 :/ |
| 01:15.17 | Muffie | hi douglas |
| 01:15.20 | arch_initcall | douglas, the oldest file on my drive is from 1996 :P |
| 01:15.39 | douglas | arch_initcall: ext2? |
| 01:15.44 | douglas | err |
| 01:15.58 | arch_initcall | 1st linux install |
| 01:16.01 | Muffie | I have used ATI drivers installation. Rebooted my Debian and fglrx is not up. lsmod | grep fglrx shows nothing and modprobe fglrx says that the module is not found... |
| 01:16.07 | douglas | which distro? |
| 01:16.14 | dUICE | will debain work on a PII 300 with 256MB mem? |
| 01:16.17 | blockd_ | dUICE: sure, I've installed Linux with a desktop on a system with similar specs. It won't be blazingly fast if you're using a heavy-weight DE and trying to do a lot of stuff, but I found it manageable... |
| 01:16.21 | arch_initcall | dUICE, yes |
| 01:16.26 | douglas | dUICE: hells yes |
| 01:16.27 | dvs | dUICE: with gnome? |
| 01:16.28 | Muffie | douglas : Mine? |
| 01:16.43 | douglas | Muffie: no sorry arch's .. should have used : |
| 01:17.01 | PerfDave | dUICE: Depending on what you want to do with it, sure. |
| 01:17.03 | Muffie | anyone here uses fglrx? |
| 01:17.12 | arch_initcall | douglas, I've tried Slackware, Red Hat, Turbo Linux, Debian |
| 01:17.13 | dUICE | yea with gnome, i also hve a wireless nic do i need to find drivers to get debain online, looking at doing the net install version |
| 01:17.57 | douglas | arch_initcall: started with slack too .. back in the kernel 1.2.1 days |
| 01:18.12 | arch_initcall | douglas, yeah, the good ol'days :) |
| 01:18.19 | dvs | dUICE: Net install with a wireless card? Good luck! |
| 01:18.21 | arch_initcall | "Insert disk 3 of 63" hahahaha |
| 01:18.48 | douglas | well to be specific, the good ol' days where when payphones didn't mute out the mic when you "dumped in your nickles" if you know what i'm talking about |
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| 01:19.13 | arch_initcall | douglas, almost but I'm not sure |
| 01:19.24 | dUICE | thanks |
| 01:19.25 | douglas | redbox reference .. wrong channel nevermind |
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| 01:20.13 | arch_initcall | Humm think DIMMs are hotplugable ? I don't want to powerdown :/ |
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| 01:20.14 | PerfDave | I was going to say that it depends entirely what wireless card you're using :) |
| 01:20.26 | douglas | man ... got a lot of pron relocating to do before this install |
| 01:20.37 | irevernetReveren | douglas i caught it |
| 01:20.39 | douglas | that's going to be the hardest part |
| 01:20.43 | eka | blockd_: /etc/environment did it |
| 01:20.44 | douglas | irevernetReveren: :) |
| 01:20.45 | arch_initcall | douglas, my ~ is on NFS :) |
| 01:20.48 | |splat| | i just used cfdisk to create two partitions, one for install and one for swap, now i can run "mke2fs /dev/hda1" successfully, but when i try "mkswap /dev/hda2" it tells me swap size must be atleast 40kb, when i made it 150mb |
| 01:21.03 | blockd_ | eka: cool, thanks |
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| 01:21.09 | |splat| | if i try hda3 or hda4 i get the same error |
| 01:21.13 | eka | thank you |
| 01:21.18 | douglas | arch_initcall: ReiserFS: Your thoughts? |
| 01:21.46 | PerfDave | |splat|: You may need to reboot for the kernel to re-read the partation table, especially if your OS is on /dev/hda |
| 01:21.47 | arch_initcall | douglas, Using it - quite good - haven't lost a file and ls/cd are faster |
| 01:21.55 | |splat| | ok |
| 01:22.02 | |splat| | i'll try that |
| 01:22.12 | PerfDave | cd is faster? Faster than what? |
| 01:22.20 | douglas | all right then reiser and sid it is.. thanks arch |
| 01:22.23 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, then my mind :) |
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| 01:23.07 | douglas | Don't cdroms spin almost as fast as the speed at which the CD would rip apart and shatter? |
| 01:23.51 | joeljkp | i'm trying to track down a network throughput bottleneck, looking for advice |
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| 01:23.59 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, SNMPd with MRTG ? |
| 01:24.22 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: hmm? |
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| 01:24.33 | Muffie | hello? |
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| 01:24.48 | arch_initcall | ohh crap apt-get dist-upgrade has updated udev :( |
| 01:24.53 | Muffie | anyone knows anything about ATI drivers? |
| 01:25.09 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, Humm about what ? |
| 01:25.20 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: what's SNMPd with MRTG |
| 01:25.47 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, SNMP is Simple Network Management Protocol - the d is for daemon |
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| 01:26.12 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, the MRTG is Multi Router Traffic Grapher |
| 01:26.12 | blockd_ | Muffie: it seemed quiet last time I was there, but there's an #ati channel on freenode if you can't find help here... |
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| 01:27.19 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, You'll have to look it up - I'm not comfortable with those - however I'm sure they could *help* |
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| 01:28.06 | Bushito | is there a way to resize you hdd partition(to be more especific making it more big, already got free space)? |
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| 01:28.17 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: well, let me explain my situation |
| 01:28.51 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: transferring a 2.5G file from an old P2 box over 100mbps ethernet, through WRT54g, over 802.11b to laptop running ubuntu |
| 01:29.04 | RandomTask | hi just curious on an a 'best practice issue' ... do people write UI programs in C++ ... or do they normally do UI work in python when making gnome apps? |
| 01:29.05 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: throughput is only ~320 KiB/s |
| 01:29.23 | PerfDave | RandomTask: Whatever works for you, I tend to use Perl and Qt :) |
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| 01:29.26 | dvs | joeljkp: the 802.11b is the bottleneck |
| 01:29.28 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, okay you know you will never get 11mbi/sec with b right ? |
| 01:29.38 | RandomTask | so no one cares ... cool |
| 01:29.40 | RandomTask | thanks |
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| 01:29.54 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: sure... but 320 KiB/s? |
| 01:30.12 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, yes - low power mode with WEP/WAP |
| 01:30.18 | PerfDave | 320KiB/s isn't too bad for 802.11b :) |
| 01:30.37 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: well, good to know then |
| 01:30.40 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: thanks |
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| 01:30.53 | PerfDave | joeljkp: Use iwconfig to check the rate setting on the wireless card - if signal strenght is low or the environment is noisy, it may autonegociate down to 5Mb or 1Mb |
| 01:30.54 | vass | hi there... I'm trying to specify a shell to su, but it won't work |
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| 01:31.28 | arch_initcall | joeljkp, also remeber that WEP/WAP have overhead, (lots of) |
| 01:31.41 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: They do? |
| 01:31.42 | joeljkp | arch_initcall: yeah, true |
| 01:31.42 | arch_initcall | you can't really get pass 7mbi with WEP |
| 01:31.50 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, Yeah saddly |
| 01:32.05 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Fair enough. More than, say, an SSL-based VPN? :) |
| 01:32.10 | Firefishe | What is the command to display a list of all IP addresses on your local network? |
| 01:32.20 | PerfDave | Firefishe: ipcalc? |
| 01:32.51 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, Humm WEP has 2.5mit/sec overhead |
| 01:32.51 | Muffie | its simple IMPOSSIBLE to create fglrx module here! |
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| 01:33.22 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: At the moment I'm running OpenVPN over WEP over 802.11b :) |
| 01:33.30 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, wow |
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| 01:33.42 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, you are brave -- or you're a dial-up user :P |
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| 01:34.02 | snowgeese | how do you turn of nvida spash screen |
| 01:34.05 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Well, WEP is basically useless for security, but just acts as a "keep out". |
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| 01:34.22 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, I'd recomend mac address filtering then |
| 01:34.25 | Muffie | kde 3.5 can be installed by pointing sources.list to unstable? |
| 01:34.30 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: mac addres filtering is no security. |
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| 01:34.39 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, WEP isn't either :p |
| 01:34.46 | arch_initcall | snowgeese, the readme says how |
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| 01:34.58 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: I'm not relying on WEP for security. |
| 01:35.05 | Firefishe | PerfDave: seems to work all right (I had to apt-get it just then) but what I'm really after is something that displays all available ip addresses. I have a wireless router I'm trying to get into, but I've forgotten the Ip address for doing so. |
| 01:35.11 | lethias | Need help getting mkinitrd to function.. i keep getting a display of the help options everytime i try to use it. |
| 01:35.13 | puff | Evening. |
| 01:35.16 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, that's why I say move to MAC Filtering |
| 01:35.19 | PerfDave | Firefishe: You probably want nmap -P or something |
| 01:35.23 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Instead of WEP? |
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| 01:35.29 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, Yeah |
| 01:35.29 | lethias | Trying to use on kernel 2.6.14.2 |
| 01:35.29 | Firefishe | k..I'll man it..thanks |
| 01:35.37 | Muffie | anyone knows if kde 3.5 can be installed by pointing sources.list to unstable? |
| 01:35.45 | puff | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:35.47 | scarynetworkguy | arch_initcall: That's also not a solution. And certainly not instead of. That's just insane. |
| 01:35.49 | arch_initcall | Muffie, No |
| 01:36.03 | puff | the screen has endless, rapid scrolling of what appears to be a single error message. |
| 01:36.06 | arch_initcall | scarynetworkguy, he aint using it for security... |
| 01:36.07 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: That won't do anything for me. The point of using WEP is just so that it shows up in kismet etc. as an "encrypted network" and stops people casually trying to connect. |
| 01:36.19 | puff | Hard to read, but part of it appears to be "readdir: diretory #9063211 contains' |
| 01:36.23 | scarynetworkguy | arch_initcall: Of course he isn't PerfDave has a bloody clue. |
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| 01:36.27 | blockd_ | Firefishe: but if it's not your network you migh P.O. somebody off -- it can be noisy. I'm staying out of a debate about whether it's OK or not :-) |
| 01:36.39 | PerfDave | The only things that are allowed to go over the WEP network to the AP are VPN on UDP, SSH on TCP, and ICMP |
| 01:36.47 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, it's your call but WEP is a 20 minute job to crack |
| 01:36.59 | blockd_ | Firefishe: just something to know... even with the so-called stealth scanning option. |
| 01:36.59 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Yes, that's why I don't rely on it for security. |
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| 01:37.04 | RandomTask | 3 minute crack for wep |
| 01:37.12 | RandomTask | FBI on cnet |
| 01:37.13 | RandomTask | :-) |
| 01:37.14 | puff | any idea what it is, what to do next, et? |
| 01:37.17 | scarynetworkguy | PerfDave: Some folks will just never grok it, eh? |
| 01:37.29 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, yeah that's why I say Mac filtering - it will stop mom & pop from connecting |
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| 01:37.35 | puff | Other than "reboot"? |
| 01:37.51 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: But it won't make my network show up as an encrypted network in a network scanning application :) |
| 01:37.54 | scarynetworkguy | arch_initcall: No more so than WEP. In fact it's easier than WEP. So if that's your goal you should go for WEP. |
| 01:38.13 | irevernetReveren | how do i run dhclient and not allow changes to /etc/resolv.conf? I cant seem to find the option |
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| 01:38.24 | PerfDave | irevernetReveren: /etc/dhclient.conf |
| 01:38.38 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, well both are cracle under 10 minutes - but you get overhead with WEP if you really really want encrypted to show up - it's your call :P |
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| 01:38.49 | irevernetReveren | PerfDave can i set it on a per nic basis? |
| 01:38.55 | arch_initcall | s/cracle/cracked |
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| 01:39.02 | sparr | Is there any web browser that can request a site on a shared ip by domain when the domain doesnt resolve yet? Just putting the domain in hosts doesnt cut it. |
| 01:39.14 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: It is my call, and I do want it to show up. And MAC filtering is cracked in much less than 10 minutes, it's cracked with a single packet. |
| 01:39.32 | PerfDave | sparr: That should be all you need to do. |
| 01:39.37 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, Indeed but you need what 1700 packets for WEP cracking ? |
| 01:39.45 | lethias | I need someone that has compiled the 2.6.14.2 kernel on the sarge 3.1 to help me with a mkinitrd function problem, can't get the initrd image to create for my kernel. |
| 01:39.56 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Depends on your WEP implementation :) |
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| 01:40.21 | puff | sparr: it needs the ip address to do the network connection, and domain to pass along in the http request so the web server can determine which domain it's asking for. |
| 01:40.21 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, change it per request ? |
| 01:40.21 | sparr | PerfDave: im guessing theres some unwanted shortcutting going on and the browser isnt using the domain at all |
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| 01:40.27 | sparr | puff: correct |
| 01:40.35 | puff | sparr: another option might be to set up the not-yet-resolving domain as the default domain. |
| 01:40.39 | puff | sparr: And request by IP. |
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| 01:40.45 | PerfDave | sparr: Maybe you're using some HTTP or SOCKS proxy with the web browser? |
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| 01:40.51 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Eh? |
| 01:40.57 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, nvm |
| 01:41.01 | RandomTask | spar: checkip.dyndns.org |
| 01:41.02 | puff | sparr: Yet another might be to set up a private primary DNS server for your machine to use .. |
| 01:41.05 | RandomTask | does this help |
| 01:41.07 | puff | sparr: That would resolve. |
| 01:41.17 | sparr | puff: default domain? |
| 01:41.21 | dougs_ideas | i want to test the hell out of my server, particularly httpd, php and mysql operations .. any good progs to do that with? |
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| 01:41.39 | sparr | puff: yeah, i thought hosts would serve that purpose, i dont wanna set up a whole dns server for one entry |
| 01:41.49 | PerfDave | Even with the WEP overhead, 802.11b is still faster than the ADSL connection, and fast enough for Samb :) |
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| 01:41.51 | arch_initcall | dougs_ideas, get it posted on slashdot ? :p |
| 01:42.05 | rvsjoen | Is it possible to to "mixed" release apt searches with apt-cache ? apt-get has the "-t" argument. Is it possible to search for a package on a specified release only ? |
| 01:42.15 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, my ADSL is at 3m/s |
| 01:42.16 | snowgeese | how do ikill nvida splash screen |
| 01:42.26 | dougs_ideas | but that will crash it so hard it'll taake the log files with it so i'll never know how .. :P |
| 01:42.26 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: Which is still less than 7 *g* |
| 01:42.30 | EvilSporkMan | i'm on a college network and i'm trying to get zeroconf (aka rendezvous, bonjour) working. My room is currently protected by a NAT router/firewall running Debian (set up with fwbuilder). I think that to get zeroconf working, I need to be on the same subnet as everyone else. Is it possible to set this up transparently? I am wondering if changing the NAT box from a router to a bridge would help... |
| 01:42.39 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, :P yeah |
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| 01:43.23 | psychonate | dougs_ideas, http://www.nessus.org/ |
| 01:43.25 | arch_initcall | snowgeese, Option "NoLogo" "on" under the right device section |
| 01:43.32 | puff | sparr: rE: default domain, what httpd server are you using? |
| 01:43.37 | LordMyren | everytime I use zeroconf stuff it pooches my normal networking stuff. Quite irksome. |
| 01:43.38 | psychonate | dougs_ideas, might want to check that out. |
| 01:43.41 | dougs_ideas | Nessus.. ok, thanks nate |
| 01:43.55 | psychonate | dougs_ideas, it's #1 on this list: http://www.insecure.org/tools.html |
| 01:44.14 | puff | sparr: in apache 2.0, at least, there is a way to specify the default domain - the domain that gets served if an http request comes in by ip number. |
| 01:44.19 | sparr | puff: no idea, its not my server |
| 01:44.28 | puff | sparr: Ah.. sorry. |
| 01:44.31 | snowgeese | its a video card |
| 01:44.46 | EvilSporkMan | LordMyren: I don't seem to have that problem...if I forward the correct ports, I can connect to itunes shares manually, but i'd like to be able to detect them automatically |
| 01:44.52 | sparr | puff: thanks though |
| 01:44.54 | dougs_ideas | Nessus.. ok, thanks nate |
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| 01:45.00 | psychonate | np gl |
| 01:45.04 | dougs_ideas | woops |
| 01:45.05 | arch_initcall | alright, I need to reboot - DIMM install :/ |
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| 01:45.15 | dvs | *gasp* |
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| 01:45.53 | Tortel | 2gigs |
| 01:45.54 | Tortel | :( |
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| 01:46.29 | dvs | memic: 2075296 812364 1262932 0 55848 479924 |
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| 01:47.18 | catalyst_ | what's the small utils call in xorg to get a Modeline? |
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| 01:48.18 | mathias64 | catalyst_: xdpyinfo? |
| 01:48.30 | lethias | I need some help on using mkinitrd, I'm trying to make an initrd image for my kernel but i can't seem to get it to do anything else other than display the quick help. |
| 01:48.58 | nse | Hello everybody, is there a way to play a video in slow motion? I want to take a particulary snapshot of a video, but I can't pick it in the right moment, it's very fast. Any player? |
| 01:49.30 | Firefishe | Is WPA good for security? |
| 01:49.44 | catalyst_ | mathias64: nah! not the info but the actual recommendated modeline. |
| 01:49.46 | dvs | Firefishe: fairly good |
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| 01:50.03 | Firefishe | dvs: what might be a better choice? |
| 01:50.09 | dvs | Firefishe: WPA2 |
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| 01:50.28 | mischko | which package supplies /bin/env? |
| 01:50.31 | Firefishe | is that the same as WPA Radius? |
| 01:51.01 | dvs | Firefishe: I don't know what WPA Radius is. |
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| 01:51.24 | Firefishe | dvs..okay, it's a choice in my wireless router's wireless security list |
| 01:51.26 | blockd_ | nse: there are unofficial debs, but I'd probably do that with mencoder. Seek to the time in the video and output the frames a jpegs or something... You could probably do something similar with some other program. |
| 01:51.28 | Kluster_v2 | nse, you can slow it down in xine, not frame by frame but slow enough to pausi it |
| 01:51.48 | blockd_ | s/frames a jpegs/frames as jpegs/ |
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| 01:52.07 | lethias | I need some help on using mkinitrd, I'm trying to make an initrd image for my kernel but i can't seem to get it to do anything else other than display the quick help. |
| 01:52.55 | mathias64 | catalyst_: what are you trying to do? I don't see what it is you're looking for |
| 01:53.09 | blockd_ | nse: that came out completely mangled, but that's how I've made vidcaps in the past. |
| 01:53.10 | nse | Kluster_v2: where is the option to do this? I'm using gxine: can't find something like this anywhere |
| 01:53.40 | nse | blockd_: It will give a lot of frames. do you know a bit of the end syntak of the command line? |
| 01:53.46 | Firefishe | bbl..thanks for the help, folks...be well :) |
| 01:54.25 | blockd_ | nse: mencoder lets you specify a time period and a starting position. I didn't say it was the best way, just a way :-) |
| 01:54.29 | mischko | which package supplies /bin/env? |
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| 01:54.44 | dvs | !find /bin/env |
| 01:54.50 | blockd_ | nse: it's not that bad if it just for a few seconds or even a few minutes |
| 01:54.58 | dpkg | Debian Search of '/bin/env' (5): (/usr/bin/envext) in sound/csound ;; (/usr/bin/env) in utils/coreutils ;; (/usr/bin/envsubst) in utils/gettext-base ;; (/usr/bin/envy24control) in sound/alsa-tools-gui ;; (/usr/share/eclipse/plugins/org.apache.ant_1.6.5/bin/envset.cmd) in devel/eclipse-platform-common. |
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| 01:55.41 | nse | blockd_: a few seconds, I have tried so many times to pause it in the right moment that my head is aching with the same part of the music all the time |
| 01:55.48 | mischko | dvs, Thanks! |
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| 01:55.56 | dvs | mischko: no problem |
| 01:56.22 | mischko | dvs, do you know how to determine that on my Debian box without the coreutils package installed? |
| 01:56.40 | dvs | mischko: coreutils is a mandatory package |
| 01:56.46 | dvs | !info coreutils |
| 01:56.54 | mischko | when I run /bin/env, it says it doesn't exist. |
| 01:56.54 | dpkg | coreutils: (The GNU core utilities), section utils, is required. Version: 5.93-5 (sid), Packaged size: 2798 kB, Installed size: 7648 kB |
| 01:57.16 | dvs | mischko: it's /usr/bin/env |
| 01:57.22 | ttick | okay, I'm having a bit of apache2 problems. After un-installing, purging and outright deleting the /etc/apache2 directories, for some reason after a re-install my .php files aren't processed, but instead prompt the browser to download them ?! Anyone have suggestions on why, which file contains this configuration, and how to fix it? |
| 01:57.46 | ttick | I've copied another's /etc/apache2 directory over my current one (as the other one works) but it still does it. :/ |
| 01:57.54 | nse | mencoder don't seem to be a official deb package |
| 01:58.03 | blockd_ | nse: it just seems easier to do it that way. Then you can quickly go through the images it creates with something like gqview. You can even scroll through them with a mouse wheel. |
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| 01:58.39 | nse | Kluster_v2: How to slow it down in xine? |
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| 01:59.15 | douglas | in postfix config, when it says "or just enter an empty string" for the relay configuration.. by empty string, do they mean nothing at all, or some 0.0.0.0 or wildcard thing? |
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| 01:59.39 | Kluster_v2 | nse, there are 2 buttons in the control thing on the LEFT of PLAY and PAUSE.. |
| 01:59.49 | Kluster_v2 | 1 to slow it down the other to speed it up |
| 01:59.54 | jotham | what should i use to keep my linux box date-time up to date? ntpdate? |
| 02:00.24 | christor | jotham: yes |
| 02:00.33 | douglas | jotham: it rules. |
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| 02:00.39 | dvs | jotham: that'll work or there's another package which escapes me right now. |
| 02:00.40 | jotham | cheers |
| 02:00.45 | douglas | if you're in to the whole "exact time" scene that is |
| 02:01.14 | jotham | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:01.14 | jotham | daemon that does a better job of keeping system time than even a cron'ed |
| 02:01.15 | jotham | invocation of ntpdate |
| 02:01.19 | jotham | there we go, in the docs for ntpdate |
| 02:01.36 | dvs | !info ntp |
| 02:01.38 | douglas | don't it cron itself on an apt install |
| 02:01.40 | sparr | puff: how does the web browser communicate the desired site to the web server? |
| 02:01.41 | dpkg | ntp: (Network Time Protocol: network utilities), section net, is optional. Version: 1:4.2.0a+stable-8.1 (sid), Packaged size: 251 kB, Installed size: 460 kB |
| 02:01.45 | Kluster_v2 | nse, you can even take a snapshot with xine, there is a lil' camera ison |
| 02:01.54 | jotham | cheers guys |
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| 02:02.14 | nse | Kluster_v2: I was using gxine, there were not those buttons on there. But xine does. Yes, I know about the snapshot |
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| 02:02.17 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 02:02.28 | MrEntropy | what package is needed to get the basic C include files? |
| 02:02.34 | snowgeese | cant find how to kill splsh screen |
| 02:02.39 | douglas | i have no problem not listening to The Temptations, which is weird |
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| 02:02.45 | rvsjoen | when setting up a local repository with gpg signing of the Release file, is it really necessary to create a new Release file each time I add another package ? |
| 02:02.46 | Kluster_v2 | nse, I didn't know about the snapshots, I just found it, might be usefull |
| 02:02.53 | douglas | snowgeese: desktop setup? which wm? |
| 02:03.00 | snowgeese | kde |
| 02:03.06 | christor | I m searching soft to do graph (snmp etc..) what to use?? I know only mrtg and rrdtool by hand , other ideas very cool? |
| 02:03.08 | douglas | yeah go through the control panel |
| 02:03.10 | snowgeese | its nvida splash screen |
| 02:03.13 | douglas | oh |
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| 02:03.22 | douglas | so we're talking bios not x |
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| 02:03.29 | douglas | i mean firmware |
| 02:03.35 | cheal | MrEntropy: libc6-dev |
| 02:03.40 | MrBlowtatoes | . |
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| 02:03.47 | snowgeese | no it came with driver |
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| 02:04.17 | snowgeese | ty douglas |
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| 02:04.32 | cheal | snowgeese: KDE doesn't matter. it's an X config option. you'll have to edit X config manually if you really want to do that |
| 02:04.48 | nse | xine is dying when I'm playing the video, wtf |
| 02:04.51 | snowgeese | how do i do that |
| 02:05.05 | snowgeese | manual edit it off |
| 02:05.15 | MrEntropy | cheal: thankyou |
| 02:05.26 | puff | sparr: As of http 1.1 the browser includes the domain name in the http request headers. |
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| 02:05.55 | fevel | I just bought a new monitor, do I need to reconfigure x or anything? |
| 02:06.23 | fevel | or will debian detect it on boot |
| 02:06.25 | fevel | ?? |
| 02:06.30 | cheal | snowgeese: you use an editor and modify the configuration file corresponding to your X server |
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| 02:07.10 | cheal | fevel: Debian doesn't know much about your monitor, only what the graphics card has to know. |
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| 02:07.29 | cheal | which is set in X config |
| 02:07.44 | tomsdimension | how do i get the kernel sources for 2.6.12 so i can use the madwifi driver? |
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| 02:07.56 | dvs | fevel: You need to make sure the horizontal and vertical frequencies are right. |
| 02:07.57 | cheal | tomsdimension: linux-source-2.6.12 |
| 02:08.01 | fevel | cheal: but does it detect the horizontal sync ranges and all? |
| 02:08.15 | tomsdimension | cheal, i tried that but it says the package doesnt exist |
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| 02:08.16 | mathias64 | fevel: the hsync and vsync ranges depend on the monitor, not so much on the card. |
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| 02:08.41 | fevel | but I dont know the right values for my 15 inch monitor |
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| 02:08.53 | tomsdimension | cheal, nm |
| 02:08.55 | snowgeese | cant find how to turn nvida screen off |
| 02:08.58 | dvs | fevel: Did your monitor come with a manual? |
| 02:08.59 | mathias64 | fevel: google the monitor model number and ``hsync'' or something like that |
| 02:08.59 | tomsdimension | i was using kernel instead of linux |
| 02:08.59 | cheal | fevel: I don't think that can be done, but it's unlikely that switching causes any problem. just plug the new monitor, if it doesn't work, plug back the old one and lower X settings |
| 02:09.00 | tomsdimension | thanks |
| 02:09.01 | snowgeese | wtf |
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| 02:09.22 | fevel | I plugged it in |
| 02:09.26 | mathias64 | fevel: what monitor is it? |
| 02:09.29 | fevel | and im using it right now |
| 02:09.30 | douglas | snow: why are you rebooting so often that this splash screen has become such a thorn in your .. wherever the proverbial torn goes? |
| 02:09.42 | Muffie | I forgot the configuration file where I set wich login manager I preffer: GDM or KDM |
| 02:09.45 | fevel | its ok except i cant go over 1024x768 |
| 02:09.59 | nix | while my X server logs clearly show DRI is working, glxinfo (also as root) says it's not. do window managers affect the use of dri? i'm using ion. |
| 02:10.02 | mathias64 | fevel: it is a 15" monitor, after all |
| 02:10.04 | Muffie | and, anyone knows if its possible to install kde 3.5 using apt-get? |
| 02:10.06 | dvs | fevel: Which is why you need the frequencies |
| 02:10.08 | fevel | yes |
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| 02:10.24 | sparr | apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 |
| 02:10.29 | nse | blockd_: do you know any official deb which can output the frames as jpegs? |
| 02:10.32 | cheal | snowgeese: see /usr/share/doc/nvidia-glx/Readme.gzx |
| 02:10.37 | snowgeese | on reboot it slows down pc |
| 02:10.46 | MrBlowtatoes | In debian, how do i see my current hardrive space free/used? |
| 02:10.49 | blockd_ | nse: sorry, I don't. |
| 02:10.50 | snowgeese | been that readme |
| 02:10.57 | Muffie | MrBlowtatoes : use df -h |
| 02:10.57 | cheal | MrBlowtatoes: sf |
| 02:11.01 | mathias64 | MrBlowtatoes: same as any other unix. df |
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| 02:11.15 | Muffie | I forgot the configuration file where I set wich login manager I preffer: GDM or KDM. Anyone can tell me? |
| 02:11.16 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 02:11.21 | MrBlowtatoes | 3 diffrent commands i see, guess i'll try them all |
| 02:11.27 | fevel | cheal: How come it detected the right frequencies for my 19 inch monitor...even the model, why doesnt it do the same for my 15 inch? |
| 02:11.32 | nevyn | MrBlowtatoes: update-alternatives --configure x-display-manager |
| 02:11.41 | quik_ | I have a windows server that can't handle long filenames, via a command can I rename the files with lengths longer than the limit for windows 200 server? |
| 02:11.41 | mathias64 | fevel: what monitor is it? manufacturer/name/model? |
| 02:11.45 | nevyn | MrBlowtatoes: oops ment Muffie |
| 02:11.54 | sparr | fevel: 15 inch isnt Plug & Play compatible, which means it doesnt report that info to the computer |
| 02:11.56 | Muffie | thanks nevyn |
| 02:11.59 | cheal | fevel: maybe the defaults worked for your 19 inch ones, contrary to the other one |
| 02:12.01 | fevel | LG studioworks 561a |
| 02:12.19 | cheal | fevel: oh, I guess sparr has a better explanation |
| 02:12.24 | fevel | cheal: but when does it try to detect? at boot? |
| 02:12.47 | fevel | sparr: oh I see |
| 02:12.50 | nse | it's not fucking possible. why xine is dying just before playing the fucking video that a I need to pick the snapshot? |
| 02:13.00 | Muffie | nevyn : thanks, but update-alternatives does not know option --configure. Dont you know the configuration text file? |
| 02:13.03 | cheal | fevel: then I guess during X config, but I don't know |
| 02:13.20 | Syntix | hi. im trying to build a custom kernel, so i got the latest sources from kernel.org , unpacked and launched make menuconfig ... but i seem to have this wierd "problem" ... you see; in every other distributins the default values in menuconfig were set acording to my hardware (the cpu was set to p4, and stuff that i had was enabled. .. ) but in debian they were not. they were all wrong, stuff that were needed to be compiled directly into the ker |
| 02:13.20 | Syntix | nel were modules by default and stuff like that ... um, is this "normal"? |
| 02:13.43 | douglas | nse: you could always VNC in from a pc, fire up the video and depending on the remote box's os, capture the screen with ctrl printscreen |
| 02:14.09 | dvs | Syntix: Debian kernels use an initrd image which essentially kernel modules in one file |
| 02:14.12 | douglas | and go totally ape with pbrush |
| 02:14.23 | ttick | argh, why is apache2 requesting clients Download .php scripts. The module is enabled for crying out loud! |
| 02:14.41 | Muffie | Where can I specify which login manager I want to use? |
| 02:14.46 | douglas | ttick: Good luck. :) |
| 02:14.54 | cheal | ttick: restarted apache and the browser? |
| 02:15.07 | ttick | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:15.10 | douglas | ttick: times like these you gotta dust of your skills to spot the right guy and talk him into going in on root and taking care of this |
| 02:15.12 | cheal | Muffie: install the one you want |
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| 02:15.13 | Syntix | dvs: i dont understand what youre trying to say :s |
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| 02:15.16 | nse | douglas: isn't worth all that |
| 02:15.30 | douglas | it is if you are both dumb and reckless |
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| 02:15.38 | Muffie | cheal : I already have kdm and gdm. The default is GDM. Just want to change it to KDM |
| 02:15.41 | nevyn | Muffie: --config |
| 02:15.43 | nevyn | my bad |
| 02:15.53 | ttick | douglas: unfortunately, I'm that guy. :/ |
| 02:15.54 | cap | Muffie: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
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| 02:16.06 | cap | childabuse: bah! |
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| 02:16.18 | dvs | Syntix: I'm saying the initrd image contains all the kernel modules in Debian kernels. |
| 02:16.39 | ttick | cheal: nope. the browser re-start didn't do squat. :/ |
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| 02:17.09 | Syntix | dvs: how do i make this initrd image, and how do i use it? |
| 02:17.13 | cheal | !tell ttick about php |
| 02:17.22 | ttick | jeez, I even did a dpkg --purge of like everything php4 and apache2 related. |
| 02:17.23 | cap | Syntix: mkinitrd |
| 02:17.34 | mike | is there a way to reinstall applications? |
| 02:17.36 | cap | Syntix: We are NOT google, btw. :P |
| 02:17.37 | dvs | Syntix: I don't know because I don't use one for my custom kernels. |
| 02:17.40 | Muffie | thanks cheal |
| 02:17.55 | ttick | !tell cheal Apache2 works differently. :/ |
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| 02:18.25 | cap | mike, yes, there is. |
| 02:18.43 | mike | cap: cool, i'll figure out how, thanks. |
| 02:18.50 | mike | just wanted to know before i wasted my time =D |
| 02:18.51 | cap | mike: sure. |
| 02:18.55 | cap | :p |
| 02:19.01 | cap | Nice boy. |
| 02:20.25 | cap | mike, I'd tell you if I knew how to do that though. :p |
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| 02:20.44 | dondelelcaro | apt-get --reinstall install foopkg |
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| 02:20.55 | mike | dondelelcaro: bastard, i nearly had it |
| 02:20.59 | mike | =P |
| 02:20.59 | MrBlowtatoes | Does debian come with a bitorrent cliaent? |
| 02:21.01 | mike | thanks all |
| 02:21.05 | deadcat | MrBlowtatoes: yes |
| 02:21.09 | MrBlowtatoes | What is it? |
| 02:21.12 | deadcat | MrBlowtatoes: apt-cache search torrent |
| 02:21.19 | dondelelcaro | mike: alternatively, aptitude reinstall foopkg; |
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| 02:21.36 | Jebediah_ | has anybody else had recent problems with getting no route? I think a package borked me |
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| 02:21.55 | mike | something involving locales and perl on my box are screwed up, don't know how to fix it. every time i apt-get install something i get locale errors |
| 02:22.01 | phych0 | hey guys, has anyone ever had a problem with swapper causing a kernel panic? |
| 02:22.04 | Syntix | dvs: ok, i googled for that and know what to do ... but i still dont know why only in debian the default values in menuconfig are so wrong ... |
| 02:22.11 | phych0 | my box keeps panicing and its really starting to get annoying having to reboot it every 5mins! |
| 02:22.57 | aeronadix | phych0, you better reinstall |
| 02:22.59 | dvs | Syntix: If you managed to use a Debian kernel to do an install then how can they be wrong? |
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| 02:23.22 | MrBlowtatoes | when i download a torrent, how do i initate the program to download the torrent contents? |
| 02:23.27 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: hows svn compared to cvs? |
| 02:24.05 | Jebediah_ | btdownloadcurses |
| 02:24.11 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: like "eh, it works" compared with "LET ME SUCK MY EYEBALLS OUT WITH A SODA STRAW" |
| 02:24.28 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: which is the ball suckers? |
| 02:24.37 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: cvs |
| 02:24.39 | deadcat | oh |
| 02:24.42 | mike | UHM |
| 02:24.52 | MrBlowtatoes | command not found jebe |
| 02:25.02 | PerfDave | MrBlowtatoes: Depends what bittorrent client you're using :) |
| 02:25.03 | mike | Need to get 2392kB of archives. After unpacking 441MB will be freed. |
| 02:25.03 | mike | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:25.04 | PerfDave | !installit |
| 02:25.04 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 02:25.18 | dondelelcaro | mike: you already had some packages downloaded, most likely. |
| 02:25.20 | deadcat | MrBlowtatoes: which package did you installed? dpkg -L PKGNAME |grep bin |
| 02:25.23 | dvs | mike: Yeah, that's sound OK |
| 02:25.27 | PerfDave | mike: /msg dpkg locales |
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| 02:25.32 | dondelelcaro | mike: or you're removing a crapload of stuff. |
| 02:25.32 | Syntix | dvs: ok, they work ... but, support for a lot of stuff i dont have is enabled by default, and the proc is set as 386, when i have p4 ... right, i can fix this up myself, but it would be alot easier the way it is was in other distros i tried - the default configured correctly to my hardware |
| 02:25.35 | mathias64 | mike: if you |
| 02:25.35 | mike | PerfDave: that did nothing |
| 02:25.46 | MrBlowtatoes | er, that's kinda vauge, which package? |
| 02:25.57 | mike | dondelelcaro: i'm just trying to reinstall xmms, i borked the font, it's big enough for gramma to read now |
| 02:25.58 | PerfDave | MrBlowtatoes: What BitTorrent software are you using? |
| 02:26.08 | PerfDave | mike: You didn't get a private message from the dpkg bot? |
| 02:26.12 | MrBlowtatoes | well, apt-get said i am useing bitornado |
| 02:26.13 | deadcat | i aint helping him |
| 02:26.28 | dondelelcaro | mike: eh? just change the font to something like -adobe-helvetica-bold-r-normal-*-*-100-*-*-p-*-iso8859-2 |
| 02:26.30 | mike | PerfDave: i did, but reconfiguring the locales didn't fix it |
| 02:26.33 | PerfDave | MrBlowtatoes: Eh? |
| 02:26.40 | mike | dondelelcaro: ok i'll try =) |
| 02:26.46 | dvs | Syntix: Debian kernels are compiled to the lowest common denominator. Use make menuconfig to change the default processor |
| 02:26.47 | PerfDave | mike: Uhm, what's the locales error you're getting from perl? |
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| 02:27.03 | mike | PerfDave: hold on i'll pastebin it. =) |
| 02:27.09 | MrBlowtatoes | apt-cache search torrent <--told me i was useing bittornado |
| 02:27.30 | MrBlowtatoes | qtorrent is also listed |
| 02:27.38 | PerfDave | MrBlowtatoes: That doesn't tell you what you're using. That tells you what packages you can install which match the search term "torrent" in their name or description. |
| 02:27.41 | deadcat | its /ignore -reply right? |
| 02:27.45 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah |
| 02:27.53 | deadcat | thanks (= |
| 02:27.57 | PerfDave | dvs, Syntix: Debian provides kernel-image packages for many processor families. |
| 02:27.58 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: err... /ignore -channel #debian -replies foouser |
| 02:28.07 | dondelelcaro | (possibly without the -channel #debian) |
| 02:28.19 | MrBlowtatoes | oh, um, heh |
| 02:28.23 | dvs | PerfDave: I think Syntix is still using the default install kernel. |
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| 02:28.32 | mike | dondelelcaro: there are no options regarding adobe on xmms's main window fonts configuration, however i know for a fact that was what's originally on there |
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| 02:28.46 | dondelelcaro | mike: it's not an option, you type it in. |
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| 02:28.51 | phycho | anyone else had a swapper kernel panic? |
| 02:28.55 | phycho | this seems to be happening all the time |
| 02:28.57 | phycho | grrr |
| 02:29.05 | phycho | cant find anything about it on google |
| 02:29.09 | PerfDave | dvs: Yes, but Syntix can install kernel-image packages without compiling anything. |
| 02:29.23 | Jebediah_ | ok, it's not my kernel, some package borked all my networking stuff. The devices get assigned DHCP fine but there is no routing info and attempts to add it tell me the network is unreachable |
| 02:29.28 | PerfDave | Though I thought these days that the installer gave you an optimised kernel-image package |
| 02:29.31 | dvs | PerfDave: True |
| 02:29.35 | mike | dondelelcaro: i just pasted in what you said, didn't owrk |
| 02:29.36 | MrBlowtatoes | ok, i'm useing bittornado now |
| 02:29.48 | PerfDave | MrBlowtatoes: You've installed the "bittornado" package? |
| 02:29.51 | dondelelcaro | mike: and you clicked apply? |
| 02:29.55 | dondelelcaro | mike: what happened? |
| 02:29.57 | MrBlowtatoes | bittornado=gui |
| 02:30.02 | mathias64 | MrBlowtatoes: you can find all the options in man btdownloadcurses |
| 02:30.06 | mike | dondelelcaro: nothing |
| 02:30.17 | mike | dondelelcaro: i pasted it in verbatem tho |
| 02:30.17 | MrBlowtatoes | man btdownloadcurses? |
| 02:30.33 | dondelelcaro | mike: right, you may not have that font available. |
| 02:30.37 | PerfDave | Oh dear, what's the bot factoid / URL for the complete newbie docs? |
| 02:30.38 | MrBlowtatoes | can i ask what 'man' stands for? |
| 02:30.41 | dondelelcaro | mike: use browse, and select a factoid. |
| 02:30.44 | dondelelcaro | mike: manual. |
| 02:30.48 | MrBlowtatoes | ok |
| 02:30.51 | dondelelcaro | s/mike/MrBlowtatoes/ |
| 02:30.58 | dondelelcaro | !tell MrBlowtatoes -about fundamentals |
| 02:31.07 | litage | does the order of entries in mdadm.conf matter? |
| 02:31.21 | dondelelcaro | say no to mdadm.conf and yes to superblocks |
| 02:31.35 | MrBlowtatoes | lol, i got ya. |
| 02:31.46 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: dont work. irssi still showing MrBlowtatoes 18:30 < dondelelcaro> s/mike/MrBlowtatoes/ |
| 02:31.46 | litage | dondelelcaro: ? |
| 02:32.02 | mike | ...... |
| 02:32.03 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah, that's because it didn't match the regex for replies. |
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| 02:32.12 | ddfire | hi |
| 02:32.14 | deadcat | o |
| 02:32.27 | dondelelcaro | litage: mdadm.conf is superfluous if you've got the device information on the superblocks, which you should have. |
| 02:32.30 | PerfDave | deadcat: "/ignore -replies bar"only matches <foo> bar: baz |
| 02:32.44 | deadcat | PerfDave: i see |
| 02:32.45 | dondelelcaro | (as well as <bar> bleh) |
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| 02:32.57 | dvs | arch_initcall: welcom back |
| 02:33.02 | dvs | 2GB person |
| 02:33.06 | arch_initcall | dvs thanks |
| 02:33.20 | arch_initcall | Played a bit of neverwinter nights and legends |
| 02:33.29 | arch_initcall | also mixed in some neverball |
| 02:33.46 | arch_initcall | I so love that game |
| 02:33.53 | deadcat | can svn do binary files? |
| 02:33.57 | PerfDave | Right, I think it's time for a quick game of UT2k4 and then bed. |
| 02:34.01 | ddfire | i need some help adding a new swap partition i dont know how to format it and in google ony are how tos to swap-file |
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| 02:34.46 | dvs | ddfire: Just use fdisk to change the type to a linux swap partition then add it to /etc/fstab |
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| 02:35.38 | arch_initcall | dvs, linux will format it automagically ? |
| 02:35.54 | dvs | arch_initcall: swap partitions don't need to be formatted |
| 02:36.00 | arch_initcall | dvs, mkswap ? |
| 02:36.02 | PerfDave | Swap partitions aren't formatted AFAIK, they're just used as raw disk space (for speed) |
| 02:36.23 | mathias64 | PerfDave: man mkswap |
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| 02:36.49 | doubleukay | (OT) by any chance, does anyone have a dell poweredge 850 here? |
| 02:36.53 | PerfDave | mathias64: No manual entry for mkswap :) |
| 02:36.58 | puff | 850? |
| 02:37.04 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, you should :| |
| 02:37.06 | ddfire | thanks |
| 02:37.07 | mathias64 | mkswap - set up a Linux swap area |
| 02:37.14 | mathias64 | mkswap sets up a Linux swap area on a device or in a fil |
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| 02:37.32 | mike | dondelelcaro: so.. |
| 02:37.33 | puff | doubleukay: Server? I'm not sure but I believe my friend left a poweredge in my storage unit. He was trying to sell a pair of them. |
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| 02:37.46 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: which pkg did you use for svn? |
| 02:37.53 | doubleukay | puff, am trying to determine whether they shortchanged me a fan |
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| 02:38.07 | arch_initcall | is there a Debian-QT channel or just a QT channel ? |
| 02:38.20 | puff | doubleukay: Ah, no idea offhand... if you really wanted, I could go down and look. |
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| 02:38.47 | doubleukay | puff, could you please? if it's a poweredge 850. |
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| 02:39.03 | doubleukay | in particular, the fan behind the cdrom drive |
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| 02:39.19 | PerfDave | arch_initcall: At a total guess, irc.kde.org ? |
| 02:39.29 | puff | doubleukay: okay, bearing in mind that i have never really taken a close look at this box, a) where would I find the model#, and b) what fan do you want me to check on? |
| 02:39.47 | puff | Too bad there's no net in the unit. |
| 02:39.49 | doubleukay | the model # will be on on front bezel |
| 02:39.50 | arch_initcall | PerfDave, /join #qt :P |
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| 02:40.42 | nevyn | doubleukay: just lookup what dell shipped |
| 02:40.45 | nevyn | via their support pages. |
| 02:40.54 | doubleukay | ok, will try that |
| 02:41.07 | Doctor | iptables -A INPUT -m multiport -p tcp --dports 1,5366 -j ACCEPT <-- iptables: No chain/target/match by that name |
| 02:42.08 | litage | dondelelcaro: ah, thanks |
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| 02:43.31 | litage | dondelelcaro: i added sdb10 to md6, recreated the initrd image, rebooted, and sdb10 wasn't part of md6. i thought it might have been because sdb10 wasn't mentioned in mdadm.conf, but after what you said, i don't think that's the problem. any ideas? |
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| 02:46.00 | SpinDOgs | hello |
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| 02:47.29 | SpinDOgs | Has anyone installed Debian on a Macintosh SE/30 before? |
| 02:47.40 | dvs | D'oh! |
| 02:48.23 | phych00 | lol why would you wanna do that SpinDOgs |
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| 02:50.11 | SpinDOgs | I have kernal 2.2.10 is that correct for a /30? |
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| 02:50.42 | SpinDOgs | I just freezes up at the penguine. |
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| 02:52.11 | dvs | SpinDOgs: That looks like the default kernel for Debian 3.0 (woody) |
| 02:52.43 | SpinDOgs | I have Potato. |
| 02:52.48 | dvs | o_O |
| 02:52.53 | phych00 | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1250 |
| 02:52.57 | phych00 | anyone seen that before? |
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| 02:53.06 | phych00 | processes keep panicing randomly |
| 02:53.11 | phych00 | and ive already replaced the memory in the hardware |
| 02:53.15 | phych00 | any ideas? |
| 02:54.09 | SpinDOgs | I'll check for updates. Thanks! |
| 02:54.46 | Doctor | wow i dont even remember using 2.2 |
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| 03:04.37 | prjktdtnt | If someone is actively connected to your computer on port 80 (or any port for that matter) and you have killed any running processes that may allow that connection how do you kick their IP? |
| 03:04.52 | litage | i added sdb10 to md6, recreated the initrd image, rebooted, and sdb10 wasn't part of md6. i thought it might have been because sdb10 wasn't mentioned in mdadm.conf, but i've learned that mdadm.conf isn't actually needed. any ideas? |
| 03:05.13 | dondelelcaro | prjktdtnt: uh... if you've killed any processes, they're no longer connected. netstat -apnt; to see why they're still there. |
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| 03:08.31 | prjktdtnt | that's odd |
| 03:08.40 | prjktdtnt | firestarter shows them as connected but nothing else does |
| 03:10.09 | jazzmanss | how do I configure vncserver to use a different WM then the default? i.e. kde is the default wm, but for the user I use to log into a machine I'd rather use xfce4. |
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| 03:12.49 | dregan | hi |
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| 03:13.47 | dregan | I have been using aptitude to update/install - but it still holds back on Openoffice 2 - can I download this an install it on Debian Sarge? |
| 03:14.33 | puff | I just tried to reboot so I could go into single-user mode from the lilo prompt, and do an fsck. |
| 03:14.46 | puff | However, it didn't give me a lilo prompt, but went straight into boot. |
| 03:15.03 | cheal | dregan: are you trying to get the OOo2 sarge backport? |
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| 03:15.34 | puff | I dind't do the initial install on this box, i'm guessing the guy who did set it up to run as an unattended server, so it's optimized to get back on its feet as quickly as possibleif i treboots. |
| 03:15.42 | puff | how do i get it into single-user mode? |
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| 03:15.48 | chugga | how do i start apache |
| 03:16.22 | puff | chugga: /etc/init.d/apache might have something to do with it. |
| 03:16.23 | dondelelcaro | puff: use init=/sbin/init 1; or init=/bin/bash |
| 03:16.23 | nevyn | puff: press shift |
| 03:16.23 | nevyn | dondelelcaro: he didn't get a lilo prompt |
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| 03:16.35 | puff | dondelelcaro: use "init=/sbin/init 1;" where, in the reboot prompt? |
| 03:16.38 | puff | Er reboot command? |
| 03:16.38 | dregan | If you mean - do I have "" deb http://www.backports.org/pending/openoffice.org/ ./ in sources.lst - yes! |
| 03:16.59 | dondelelcaro | puff: no, in the bootloader prompt; if you're not seeing the prompt, either hold shift, or increase the delay. |
| 03:17.09 | dondelelcaro | puff: otherwise, get on the console and telinit 1 |
| 03:17.14 | puff | Also, do I have to manually tweak the disk mounts to read-only state or is there something in the mode that will do it? |
| 03:17.24 | puff | telinit/ |
| 03:17.27 | puff | ? |
| 03:17.42 | puff | I'm on the console, that's why my typing is sucking so hard (irc'ing from a laptop next to it). |
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| 03:17.51 | dondelelcaro | puff: man telinit; |
| 03:18.05 | dondelelcaro | puff: from there, you may need to remount things ro; but that's fairly trivial. |
| 03:18.23 | cheal | dregan: OK. I don't know aptitude, so I'm not sure I could help you |
| 03:18.51 | dregan | cheal: thank you |
| 03:18.54 | puff | okay, held shift key down, have a prompt now. |
| 03:19.20 | dondelelcaro | puff: cool, so either boot with init=/sbin/init 1; if you want runlevel 1, or init=/bin/bash if you just want a shell. |
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| 03:19.31 | puff | I have a "boot" prompt, tab shows a list. Tab. no list. |
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| 03:19.57 | dondelelcaro | puff: is it lilo or grub? [or some other arch?] |
| 03:20.01 | puff | Tried init=/sbin/init<enter> --> "No such image. [Tab] shows a list. |
| 03:20.27 | puff | I thought I saw lilo flash by there during an earlier boot. |
| 03:20.28 | blockd_ | puff: look in /etc/inittab for what runlevel is what |
| 03:20.29 | dondelelcaro | puff: try linux init=/sbin/init 1; if tab doesn't show a list. |
| 03:20.52 | dondelelcaro | puff: otherwise, let it boot, and log onto the console and run (as root) telinit 1; |
| 03:20.55 | puff | Bingo, tht did the trick. |
| 03:21.09 | puff | dmesg out from eralier is at http://pastebin.com/455002 |
| 03:21.15 | puff | thank you. |
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| 03:22.17 | dondelelcaro | puff: hrm... that dmesg output looks ok... what was wrong? |
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| 03:23.10 | puff | dondelelcaro: Drat, looks like it went into a normal boot? |
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| 03:23.50 | dondelelcaro | puff: it should boot into runlevel 1; if it doesn't, then log on, and do a telinit 1; |
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| 03:25.32 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: when you import a repo say ~/bin, where does the files stored at? |
| 03:25.45 | Eric_ | I'm trying to use bittorrent to download the debian dvd, but it's not working. I suspect my ISP is sabotaging my bittorrent connections with RST packets. Could someone go to http://bttracker.acc.umu.se:6969/ and click on one of the links and tell me what happened? |
| 03:27.13 | Doctor | RST packets? |
| 03:27.22 | chugga | puff, how do i find out where apache is serving stuff from |
| 03:27.34 | dondelelcaro | chugga: look at the document root |
| 03:27.45 | Eric_ | Yeah. I think my ISP is detecting when I try to create a bittorrent connection and sending my computer a packet with the RST flag set so I'll drop the connection. |
| 03:27.56 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: into whatever the repository is that you've created |
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| 03:28.17 | chugga | dondelelcaro, where do i look for it? |
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| 03:28.38 | dondelelcaro | chugga: in your apache configuration file; /etc/apache/httpd.conf; /etc/apache2/apache.conf |
| 03:28.47 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i tried svn import ~/deadcat file:///home/deadcat/svnroot -m "initial import" but theres nothing added to svnroot |
| 03:28.52 | Eric_ | If someone could go to that web site and tell me what happens when you click on a link? That would be a great help. |
| 03:29.05 | puff | dondelelcaro: i added some background material: http://pastebin.com/455024 |
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| 03:29.35 | chugga | dondelelcaro, ok. i have searched it for document root to no avail |
| 03:30.01 | chugga | oh nm. it was spelt without a space. cheers1 |
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| 03:30.30 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: and youv'e gone svnadmin create --fs-type fsfs /home/deadcat/svnroot; right? |
| 03:31.01 | puff | dondelelcaro: okay, went into single-user mode via telinit. |
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| 03:31.05 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: not --fs-type fsfs, but svnadmin create /home/deadcat/svnroot |
| 03:31.18 | puff | So no i need to remount the drives all as read-only before I can fsck, right? |
| 03:31.48 | dondelelcaro | puff: yeah; but you probably only need to fsck the reiserfs drive; If it's got important data, I'd make a dd image of that partition somewhere so you can go back if it's fucked. |
| 03:31.52 | quik_ | hey, I asked a question about an hour and a half ago regarding copying to a windows 2000 server, its past my cache, did anyone answer it? |
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| 03:32.57 | RichiH | somehow, mplayer on this box seems unable to play rm and wmv files. w32codecs is installed. it works (tm) on the other boxen |
| 03:33.02 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: cool; then svn import ~/bin file:///home/deadcat/svnroot -m "foo"; should work; and svn ls file:///home/deadcat/svnroot; should show bin |
| 03:33.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ah |
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| 03:34.06 | kartoo | I had WinXp, FC4 and installed sarge as the third OS yesterday. From then, my FC4 hangs during boot. |
| 03:34.06 | kartoo | The grub of FC4 previously had the following parameter for kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet |
| 03:34.07 | kartoo | Whereas, the grub of sarge has the following parameter for kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 root=/dev/hda7 |
| 03:34.07 | kartoo | when i changed the parameter in menu.lst of sarge from /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 root=/dev/hda7 to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.11-1.1369_FC4 ro root=LABEL=/ rhgb quiet , the booting for FC4 shows a kernel panic message saying that it is unable to create a VFS for / |
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| 03:34.34 | puff | dondelelcaro: okay, yeah, it's pretty important to me. |
| 03:34.55 | sonyman | I can't get mplayer to install from the Marillat repository on etc |
| 03:34.56 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1251 |
| 03:34.57 | chugga | thanks puff, dondel. |
| 03:34.57 | sonyman | etch* |
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| 03:35.27 | deadcat | thanks |
| 03:35.30 | dondelelcaro | puff: yeah; I'd make a dd image of that partition then; worst case you'll end up in the same position if reiser's fsck blows chunks. |
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| 03:36.10 | MrBlowtatoes | how would i go about installing a generic usb PS2toPS controller adapter up in debian? |
| 03:36.12 | puff | dondelelcaro: ddanke... reading up on dd. http://www.codecoffee.com/tipsforlinux/articles/036.html |
| 03:36.13 | dondelelcaro | puff: you also may try splitting that partition into specific directories, and then tarballing up those directories individually; thereby figuring out which is the screwed one, and dealing with that one last. |
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| 03:36.32 | dondelelcaro | puff: just dd if=/dev/youroldpartition of=/some/file/ona/bigger/disk |
| 03:36.52 | puff | Ah.. okay. |
| 03:37.00 | cisse | if you're short on space pipe it through tar |
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| 03:37.06 | sfullenwider | anyone in here speak french? |
| 03:37.13 | cisse | and -z |
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| 03:37.21 | dondelelcaro | cisse: just use gzip in that case |
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| 03:37.30 | fbi | sfullenwider: in #debian-fr they speak french |
| 03:37.31 | cisse | yeah i misspoke tried to save it =P |
| 03:37.36 | dondelelcaro | ala gzip -dc /dev/oldpartition > foofile.gz; |
| 03:37.47 | dondelelcaro | s/d// |
| 03:38.02 | cisse | hrm never thought to gzip the /dev/ |
| 03:38.09 | kartoo | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1252. |
| 03:38.17 | cisse | faster than dd if=/dev/part | gzip > backup.dd.gz |
| 03:38.25 | kartoo | unable to boot fedora after installing sarge http://channels.debian.net/paste/1252. |
| 03:38.39 | soapee01 | Arg.. can anyone recommend a good set of schemas for an openldap directory (to be used by everything... outlook, kontact, thunderbird, aol, etc), or am I just asking for trouble? |
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| 03:39.09 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: so your repo has: README.txt conf/ dav/ db/ format hooks/ locks/; and the other modules in that dir right? |
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| 03:39.19 | kozy | Hi people, I have a serial gps attached to my laptop which I want to share via bluetooth SP profile. How do I connect/redirect the device to rfcomm? Or better, I believe gpsd can output NMEA, how do I forward that as BT SP? Somebody has some thoughts about this, any help is greatly appriciated... |
| 03:39.23 | douglas | i can only get into my smtpd by telneting into localhost 25, not [mydomain] or my ip / 25 .. is this the /etc/mail/access file i need to tweak, and if so where? |
| 03:39.30 | douglas | running sendmail at the moment |
| 03:39.30 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: right |
| 03:39.34 | deadcat | k |
| 03:39.44 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: the actual repo is hidden in the db files |
| 03:40.07 | deadcat | AH |
| 03:40.31 | dondelelcaro | kartoo: fedora's kernel can't understand the label option; indeed, there's little point to using it. Just specify the root using the actual device. |
| 03:40.40 | cisse | has anyone run across something to generate the openswan conf file ? |
| 03:40.54 | quik_ | can you easily copy to a windows 2000 server and rename the files to fit on that filesystem in a couple of commands? |
| 03:41.15 | cisse | douglas: perhaps it's only listening on localhost, check conf file for what ip's it's binding to |
| 03:41.15 | dondelelcaro | quik_: we have nothing to do with windows 2000 here. |
| 03:41.27 | quik_ | but you do with debian |
| 03:41.31 | dondelelcaro | quik_: if you want to store files on something that has a lame filesystem, use tar. |
| 03:41.37 | mike | PerfDave: you here? |
| 03:41.49 | quik_ | can you create the tar volume on the remote server? |
| 03:41.55 | kartoo | dondelelcaro: my root is /dev/hda7 as debian's grub shows |
| 03:41.56 | puff | hm, thinking about it, if it's the really BIG partition, I can afford to take chances, that's actually just a backup of something that I still have on separate disks. |
| 03:42.08 | dondelelcaro | kartoo: right, so root=/dev/hda7 instead of root=LABEL=/ |
| 03:42.08 | puff | Well, "really big" in tihs case being about 20Gb. |
| 03:42.26 | kartoo | dondelelcaro: so that rhgb quiet is needed> |
| 03:42.27 | kartoo | ? |
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| 03:42.45 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ~/svnroot is the dir with all those files. should i create my modules (deadcat, bin .config .fonts) in there or create them under ~/svnroot/modules/ ? so it doesnt look too messy? |
| 03:42.46 | dondelelcaro | quik_: just tar -zc foo list of files that I want |ssh fooserver 'cat - >barfile.tar.gz' |
| 03:43.02 | kartoo | dondelelcaro: what is that rhgb quiet for? |
| 03:43.08 | quik_ | dondelelcaro: the files I want to copy are > 40GB, can I create the server without using ssh? say maybe through smb/cifs |
| 03:43.20 | dondelelcaro | kartoo: I have no idea; that's something to do with redhat, and this isn't #fedora or #redhat... |
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| 03:43.33 | quik_ | create the files to the remote server* |
| 03:43.59 | dondelelcaro | quik_: that's just one way; how you actually get the files there is of little concern; a transport layer is just like any other. |
| 03:44.02 | ibroadfo | what does the -E argument to sed do? |
| 03:44.03 | kartoo | dondelelcaro: ok |
| 03:44.09 | MrBlowtatoes | how would i go about installing a generic usb PS2toPS controller adapter up in debian? |
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| 03:44.24 | dondelelcaro | ibroadfo: sed: invalid option -- E |
| 03:44.28 | dondelelcaro | NEXT! |
| 03:44.32 | cisse | hrm just bough an lcd and fonts are harsh, any howtos on smoothing them ? |
| 03:44.34 | quik_ | dondelelcaro: there is a mass file sending command that creates the tar on the fly, I can't think of its name...? |
| 03:44.41 | dondelelcaro | quik_: it's called tar. |
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| 03:44.55 | quik_ | :| |
| 03:44.58 | quik_ | ok |
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| 03:45.11 | dondelelcaro | rsync is the other one, but it's almost definetly not going to work on a non-unix. |
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| 03:45.22 | jader | d |
| 03:45.24 | dondelelcaro | (well, other one that's related to what we're talking about) |
| 03:45.27 | quik_ | ah yes rsync |
| 03:45.36 | ibroadfo | dondelelcaro: yes, I got that much: my problem is I've got a script and I don't know what the -E bit to sed is trying to do |
| 03:45.37 | cisse | quik_: tar cf - dir/ | ssh host "tar xf - -C dir/" |
| 03:45.39 | quik_ | you can copy to the windows machine using rsync, can't you? |
| 03:45.45 | kapil | cisse: i seem to recall an option during xserver configuration which asked if my monitor was a laptop so perhaps dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whatever may help. |
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| 03:45.55 | cisse | kapil: ah k thx |
| 03:45.56 | JT | you can use rsync on windows |
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| 03:46.07 | JT | using cygwin |
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| 03:46.17 | JT | cwrsync has it already done and with an installer |
| 03:46.20 | sonyman | I can't get mplayer to install from the Marillat repository on etch. It complains about certain programs not being installable |
| 03:46.21 | cisse | tar will be faster than rsync |
| 03:46.30 | jader | can somebody help me |
| 03:46.33 | jader | ? |
| 03:46.37 | kapil | quik_: there is also "unison" which apparently does a good job across different O/Ses |
| 03:47.05 | cisse | kapil have you used unison ? |
| 03:47.24 | kapil | cisse: yes. but not across different O/S es |
| 03:47.26 | jader | i am new user of debian? |
| 03:47.34 | cisse | ah |
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| 03:47.52 | jader | and i dont do programs in linux |
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| 03:48.30 | g3brown | I used 'apt-get install proftpd'. In trying to reinstall it, I have deleted a few files like proftpd.conf & proftpd.sh. I want to install it again but it doesn't recreate the files I deleted. Is there a way to recreate those? |
| 03:48.40 | dondelelcaro | ibroadfo: it's probably a typo for -e; but you'd have to give us an idea of what sed is trying to do there. |
| 03:48.47 | maher | jader: yes you are a new user - ask a question |
| 03:48.49 | dondelelcaro | !confmiss |
| 03:48.49 | dpkg | the reason you have to use dpkg --force-confmiss is because whenever your config files are gone, dpkg assumes you deleted them on purpose, and that you want them to stay deleted. You can also reinstall them using the following apt-get line: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install <packagename> |
| 03:48.51 | cisse | kapil, i have two fileservers with vmware imags that i want to keep synchronized think unison would be good for the job? i've read a little about it |
| 03:48.55 | dondelelcaro | g3brown: see above. |
| 03:49.31 | g3brown | <dondelelcaro> above? |
| 03:49.32 | jader | i dont do programs in linux |
| 03:49.37 | dondelelcaro | !tell g3brown -about confmiss |
| 03:49.49 | dondelelcaro | jader: just ask your quesiton. |
| 03:50.13 | quik_ | cheers guys, its tarring.. |
| 03:50.34 | ibroadfo | dondelelcaro: the sed lines all start sed -Ee |
| 03:50.46 | ibroadfo | and the script is unifdefall.sh |
| 03:50.49 | kapil | cisse: i think unison is mainly for directory trees. of course, if the images have a lot of "common stuff" then it also uses "rsync"-like stuff to speed up the transfer. |
| 03:50.52 | amd_goon | g3brown: maybe apt-get remove --purge to remove all config files then reinstall ? |
| 03:50.56 | jader | well question is where start do to programms |
| 03:51.05 | jader | in linux |
| 03:51.06 | ibroadfo | (which is claimed as coming with the unifdef package, but doesn't) |
| 03:51.06 | puff | hm, how long should it normally take to copy 5 GB from one fairly modern drive to another? |
| 03:51.07 | maher | jader: what is your native language? |
| 03:51.13 | g3brown | Tried that, I think dondelelcaro just gave me what I need. |
| 03:51.15 | jader | well c |
| 03:51.23 | cisse | kapil: well i liked it's claim to automatically merge changes between the two, basic version control is what i'm looking for for my images |
| 03:51.25 | puff | jader: Your native language is C? |
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| 03:51.39 | jader | it is bad? |
| 03:52.00 | maher | jader: no language like norwegian or bulgarian |
| 03:52.02 | kapil | cisse: merge changes between directory trees. I don't recall it managing to do the equivalent |
| 03:52.13 | dondelelcaro | jader: there are a bunch of books about introductory programming; first learn the basics... then find a project which you find interesting, check out the source, and start fixing bugs/making improvements. |
| 03:52.20 | ibroadfo | dondelelcaro: if no-one's heard of a -E option to sed, I'll assume it's a tyop and see what -e on its own produces |
| 03:52.23 | kapil | cisse: sorry. continuing. of a merge of files. |
| 03:52.56 | dondelelcaro | ibroadfo: well, it's not in debian's sed, and I don't think it ever has been. |
| 03:53.09 | puff | 2rn |
| 03:53.13 | puff | Dammit. |
| 03:53.18 | cisse | hm |
| 03:53.19 | kapil | cisse: ah. I notice that there is also a -merge option which is like a file merge. I haven't used it myself. |
| 03:53.19 | jader | i did say anything wrong? |
| 03:53.26 | puff | i hate laptop keyboards :-( |
| 03:53.51 | dondelelcaro | jader: no, it just appeared that english wasn't your native language, and that you may be better served by a channel who speaks your native language. |
| 03:54.00 | ibroadfo | dondelelcaro: yeah, I haven't found any references to it anywhere... strange |
| 03:54.09 | ibroadfo | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 03:54.12 | dondelelcaro | ibroadfo: np. |
| 03:54.15 | puff | jader: what country are you from? |
| 03:54.26 | jader | it is true hehehe |
| 03:54.33 | jader | brazil |
| 03:54.46 | puff | jader: Ah... yeah, portugese, then. |
| 03:54.51 | jader | i am learn english |
| 03:54.59 | puff | jader: I'm afraid the only portugese I know is a few capoeira terms. |
| 03:55.04 | jader | two mounth |
| 03:55.07 | dondelelcaro | jader: right, feel free to ask questions in here too; but #debian-br may also be of utility. |
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| 03:56.34 | jader | puff you know capoira? |
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| 03:57.16 | puff | jader: Angola, but only a little bit. |
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| 03:57.43 | jader | where are you from? |
| 03:57.51 | foo | Anyone know of a way to get snortsam into snort? Or do I need to make snort from source and then build it with snortsam? |
| 03:57.56 | jader | puff |
| 03:57.56 | puff | Pittsburgh, Pa, land of many rainy days. |
| 03:58.03 | SimonRaven | build from source |
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| 03:58.34 | foo | SimonRaven: I'm assuming that's for me? |
| 03:58.39 | g3brown | dondelelcaro: that got me the .conf file back but not the .sh. |
| 03:58.45 | SimonRaven | you assume correctly |
| 03:58.47 | jader | do you know brasil? |
| 03:58.50 | jader | puff |
| 04:00.02 | jader | puff? |
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| 04:00.45 | kapil | jader: smoking is not good for health :) |
| 04:01.57 | jader | kapil: why you are smoking erva? |
| 04:02.15 | jader | hehehe i am playing |
| 04:02.20 | jader | kapil |
| 04:02.37 | mawar_muanis | JAKARTA |
| 04:02.44 | jader | where are you from? |
| 04:02.59 | jader | kapil |
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| 04:03.37 | kapil | jader: india. |
| 04:03.52 | jader | yeah |
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| 04:04.04 | jader | what is city |
| 04:04.16 | jader | kapil |
| 04:04.28 | doubleukay | how do i change a logical volume name? (LVM2) |
| 04:04.55 | mawar_muanis | BANDUNG |
| 04:05.24 | MrBlowtatoes | how would i go about installing a generic usb PS2toPS controller adapter up in debian? |
| 04:05.41 | kapil | jader: chennai (also known as madras). currently under sever storm warning. fifth this season. this year has seen 1970 mm of rain over last two months. of course, all this has nothing to do with debian ... |
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| 04:06.43 | puff | jader: sorry, I was in another window working on something. |
| 04:07.06 | jader | kapil:what do you do? |
| 04:07.21 | jader | puff:np problems |
| 04:07.33 | Bushito | how can i know my actual version of gnome?? |
| 04:07.34 | puff | jader: I have never been to brazil; I like capeoeira and I like churrasco, and I like warn weather :-) |
| 04:07.53 | kapil | jader: debian...and mathematics. |
| 04:07.59 | puff | dondelelcaro: Hm, okay, I have the /home, /etc, and /var/www/htdocs off the old box. |
| 04:08.19 | doubleukay | mawar_muanis, apa khabar |
| 04:08.22 | douglas | what is the smptd that is as no-frills as you can get? |
| 04:08.29 | CompWizrd | ssmtp :) |
| 04:08.39 | douglas | security ain't a frill? :) |
| 04:08.51 | jader | kapil:do you never swimming in warm water? |
| 04:08.54 | kapil | CompWizrd, douglas: ssmtp has no smtpd! |
| 04:08.59 | CompWizrd | kapil: minor detail. |
| 04:09.09 | mawar_muanis | SSSSS |
| 04:09.29 | jader | it is true? |
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| 04:09.55 | jader | i am study enginer |
| 04:10.03 | puff | dondelelcaro: I'd like to copy just the /mcgee partition from the old box, which is currently mounted as /old/mcgee. I tried the dd command on /old/mcgee, but dd didn't like that. |
| 04:10.11 | jader | kapil |
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| 04:10.32 | douglas | ok how about an mta that is a little less simple than ssmtp |
| 04:10.35 | puff | jader: English is useful for an engineer... |
| 04:10.47 | jader | do you know kurumin? |
| 04:10.52 | g3brown | I installed proftpd with apt-get. I deleted the proftpd.sh file. Is the anyway to reinstall with apt-get and recover this file? |
| 04:11.09 | jader | thanks |
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| 04:11.22 | SimonRaven | !+find proftpd.sh |
| 04:11.24 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 04:11.24 | puff | douglas: I use postfix; the competent people I all know are about evenly split between exim and postfix, but the postfix guys are the ones who are actually around when I run into trouble :-). |
| 04:11.33 | puff | jader: kurumin? no. What is it? |
| 04:11.34 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'proftpd.sh' (1): (/usr/share/honeyd/scripts/unix/linux/suse8.0/proftpd.sh) in net/honeyd-common. |
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| 04:11.43 | jader | i am sorry i am learn it's good |
| 04:11.45 | kapil | douglas: there used to be something called null-mailer but if you want good security you are probably better off running a standard mailer (exim4/postfix) in nullmailer-ish mode. |
| 04:11.46 | jader | kapil |
| 04:11.48 | servus | I just installed a multiple-domain postfix environment. Blahhhh |
| 04:11.49 | tung | whats the command to monitor ftp usage? |
| 04:11.50 | douglas | puff: Thanks |
| 04:11.53 | SimonRaven | g3brown: ^^^^ |
| 04:11.54 | tung | i know for cpu its just "top" |
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| 04:12.04 | jader | how speak? |
| 04:12.06 | puff | jader: Ah, a linux distro? |
| 04:12.13 | puff | doubleukay: You ever get an answer? |
| 04:12.17 | tung | ugh, i cant remember the one for ftp usage anymore |
| 04:12.24 | douglas | i just wish i could get postfix and sendmail to forget my old bad config settings on reinstalls even though i --purged them on removes |
| 04:12.27 | doubleukay | puff, yes, lvrename :) |
| 04:12.31 | jader | yeah linux distro |
| 04:12.32 | puff | doubleukay: I've been trying to get this fsck kicked off, haven't gone down to th estorage unit yet. |
| 04:12.35 | puff | doubleukay: Okay, then i won't bother. |
| 04:12.36 | jader | brazilian |
| 04:12.38 | jader | kapil |
| 04:12.59 | puff | jader: Ah, coool. |
| 04:12.59 | g3brown | dpkg: there's no way to just have it reinstall the file? I need to file and download it manually? |
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| 04:13.06 | doubleukay | puff, *if you meant answer to the lvm question |
| 04:13.08 | g3brown | SimonRaven: what is ^^^^? |
| 04:13.13 | foo | hey .. i am building a package and putting --with-mysql=/.... What is the /... ? Is it the location of the mysql binary? I am compiling snort. |
| 04:13.17 | puff | doubleukay: I meant the poweredge question. |
| 04:13.19 | SimonRaven | look up |
| 04:13.23 | puff | jader: debian is my distro of choice, and ubuntu (debian derived) for my laptop. |
| 04:13.27 | SimonRaven | i.e., read above |
| 04:13.27 | jader | sorry puff |
| 04:13.37 | doubleukay | puff, oh, still haven't gotten an answer to that |
| 04:13.38 | puff | jader: Don |
| 04:13.45 | blockd | tung: ftptop? |
| 04:13.45 | puff | jader: Don't be sorry :-). |
| 04:13.46 | kapil | douglas: perhaps you need to run dpkg-reconfigure -plow after installing. |
| 04:13.53 | g3brown | SimonRaven: you mean dpkg comment? |
| 04:13.57 | jader | ok sorry |
| 04:13.59 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 04:14.01 | jader | hehehehhe |
| 04:14.06 | puff | Anybody know the dd options to use dd to back up just a specific partition? |
| 04:14.14 | doubleukay | for some reason dell doesn't recognize my service tag |
| 04:14.16 | kozy | So does anybody know how to connect two serial devices in /dev/ or how to connect a local port to a serial device? |
| 04:14.22 | puff | doubleukay: that sucks. |
| 04:14.22 | douglas | plow, huh.. thanks kapil |
| 04:14.24 | tung | blockd: i tried that one, didnt work |
| 04:14.29 | doubleukay | i believe you can pass the specific partition to dd's in= |
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| 04:14.39 | doubleukay | i did that yesterday and it worked. |
| 04:14.40 | blockd | tung: how didn't it work? No such command...? |
| 04:14.52 | doubleukay | oops i shoudl've been clearer |
| 04:15.00 | doubleukay | i did this yesterday and it worked --> [09/12 12:14] doubleukay: i believe you can pass the specific partition to dd's in= |
| 04:15.04 | tung | blockd: yup, -bash: ftptop: command not found |
| 04:15.05 | puff | Hm.... i tried "dd if=/old/mcgee of=/home/mcgee/oldmcgee.dd",it said "dd: reading `/old/mcgeek': Is a directory" |
| 04:15.13 | kapil | puff: dd if=/dev/part1 of=/dev/part2. check thrice and enter once :) verrrry dangerous. |
| 04:15.23 | jader | puff: how i programms in linux? |
| 04:15.33 | tung | blockd: tried, apt-get install ftptop, but couldnt find it |
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| 04:15.45 | blockd | tung: maybe that only comes with proftpd. Which server are you using? |
| 04:15.54 | kapil | puff: you can put of=<filename> if you want to backup to a file. |
| 04:16.05 | tung | blockd: o yeah, im running vsftpd now |
| 04:16.07 | doubleukay | puff, you would wanna unmount the partition first.. |
| 04:16.19 | tung | blockd: before when i was running proftpd, i had that command |
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| 04:16.30 | tung | blockd: this is a new install of debian on my system |
| 04:16.35 | g3brown | I'm still in the dark here. I'm supposed to be searching the internet, google, my hard drive, repository? |
| 04:16.36 | doubleukay | i take it that /old/mcgee is the mounted partition (as opposed to tbe block device holding it) |
| 04:16.38 | puff | doubleukay: *now* you tell me:-). |
| 04:16.42 | kapil | doubleukay: thanks for correction. yes. /dev/part1 should be unmounted. |
| 04:17.10 | doubleukay | gtg, ta! |
| 04:17.13 | puff | okay, unmounted. Is anybody else continually annoyed that unix spells "unmount" as "umount"? |
| 04:17.25 | puff | is there a "show progress" option for dd? |
| 04:18.07 | doubleukay | i don't believe there is |
| 04:18.12 | doubleukay | i was looking for one yesterday but couldn't find any |
| 04:18.17 | kapil | puff: in the same way that i dislike typing "ls" instead of "list" :) |
| 04:18.30 | doubleukay | alias unmount=umount :) |
| 04:18.31 | tung | blockd: maybe a silly question, you know of any ftp monitor tools that i can use with vsftpd? |
| 04:18.41 | servus | There is, puff, but it's not pretty. |
| 04:18.45 | puff | g3brown: I believe you could just "apt-get remove proftpd" and then "apt-get install proftpd" |
| 04:18.48 | blockd | tung: sorry, I don't. |
| 04:19.08 | servus | You could write a script to dd in the &background and send it a SIGUSR1 to print its progress, then parse it and make a bar graph or something whiz-bang. |
| 04:19.09 | puff | Ah well... hm, this is going to take a while. |
| 04:19.12 | g3brown | puff: I did that. I also did a --purge remove |
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| 04:19.20 | puff | And the snow storm is rolling in. |
| 04:19.41 | jader | kapil:? |
| 04:19.46 | servus | But basically, "kill -USR1 123" will display dd's progress, where 123 is the pid |
| 04:19.52 | SimonRaven | g3brown: proftpd.sh is in the package that the dpkg bot mentioned |
| 04:20.11 | puff | g3brown: ah... that kinda boggles me that it's not reinstalling them. |
| 04:20.19 | SimonRaven | 23:11 <dpkg> Debian Search of 'proftpd.sh' (1): (/usr/share/honeyd/scripts/unix/linux/suse8.0/proftpd.sh) in net/honeyd-common. |
| 04:20.48 | g3brown | SimonRaven: I saw that but I don't know what it means. |
| 04:21.04 | puff | SimonRaven: Are you implying that proftpd.sh wasn't part of the proftpd package install? |
| 04:21.15 | puff | g3brown: I think he's saying you should install net/honeyd-common. |
| 04:21.23 | puff | g3brown: er, reinstall. |
| 04:21.55 | g3brown | I don't believe the file was there before I installed proftpd though. |
| 04:22.12 | g3brown | Why would it be in something called honeyd-common? |
| 04:22.26 | puff | Hm, given a successful dd copy of the partition, is it feasible to extract the files from the dd image at a later date? |
| 04:22.45 | SimonRaven | if that's not the one you were looking for, then google for it |
| 04:22.57 | kapil | puff: use a loop mount. |
| 04:23.04 | puff | I.e. can i finish the dd, unplug the old drive, power down the box and transfer it back to its rack, power it back up, go home and then extra the files from the dd image at my leisure? |
| 04:23.08 | puff | kapil: A what? |
| 04:23.34 | kapil | puff: for ext2/3 files there is a package called e2tools that will extract files from the image. |
| 04:23.52 | puff | kapil: Ah, cool. |
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| 04:24.01 | puff | This is, sadly, reiserfs files. |
| 04:24.06 | g3brown | SimonRaven: I could just grab the file from another Debain box, but I want to fix it to learn. I don't know why I can't recover it from a proftpd install. |
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| 04:24.27 | puff | g3brown: here's a thought... maybe you should check to see if proftpd.sh is *in* the proftpd package? |
| 04:24.37 | SimonRaven | that's the only 'proftpd.sh' file in debian. i can't make it clearer than that |
| 04:24.42 | kapil | puff: ah. then you use mount -t reiserfs -o loop fileimagename mountpoint |
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| 04:25.01 | puff | Anybody know if "dpgk -l packagename" lists the files that the package actually installed or lists the files that are in the package manifest? |
| 04:25.03 | g3brown | In the honeyd-common? |
| 04:25.05 | SimonRaven | g3brown: because it isn't in there |
| 04:25.06 | puff | I'm suspecting thelatter. |
| 04:25.12 | kapil | puff: probably good to at a ro option to the mount. |
| 04:25.13 | puff | g3brown: I think so. |
| 04:25.28 | fbi | puff: dpkg -L foo |
| 04:25.31 | puff | g3brown: I'm getting better at understanding these inscrutable #debian people :-). |
| 04:25.52 | kapil | puff: s/at/add/ |
| 04:25.53 | puff | kapil: Thank you... so basically I can mount it from a dd image? |
| 04:25.59 | mfrisch | puff daddy! |
| 04:26.11 | kapil | puff: certainly. |
| 04:26.26 | puff | kapil: mount -t reiserfs -o loop /home/mcgee/oldmcgee.dd /oldmcgee |
| 04:26.32 | puff | kapil: That's cool. |
| 04:26.46 | fbi | !ricerfs |
| 04:26.47 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 04:27.07 | kapil | fbi, dpkg: ;) |
| 04:27.14 | puff | I'd rather just do the dd and then re-rack the box and get out of here before I'm snowed in. |
| 04:27.16 | mfrisch | fbi thats new |
| 04:27.16 | foo | I installed mysql on debian and it didn't install the header files. Any ideas? |
| 04:27.24 | mfrisch | ha |
| 04:27.30 | blockd | g3brown: I highly doubt you want honeyd-common... that's for running a honey pot |
| 04:27.30 | fbi | !factinfo ricerfs |
| 04:27.30 | dpkg | ricerfs -- created by PerfDave <user488@sparky.ox.compsoc.net> at Tue Nov 2 18:45:17 2004 (401 days); it has been requested 153 times, last by fbi at Thu Dec 1 18:26:37 2005. |
| 04:27.31 | hacim | foo: install the package with the header files |
| 04:27.33 | puff | foo: There's probably a separate package. |
| 04:27.42 | fbi | today is Dec 1 ? |
| 04:27.48 | puff | foo: apt-cache search mysql | fgrep -i header |
| 04:28.06 | foo | puff: Yeah, already did that. Nothing. I'm on testing |
| 04:28.24 | blockd | g3brown: basically a system you want people to (try to) break into so you can observe them for new exploits or divert them from the real target etc... |
| 04:28.47 | puff | foo: Or perhaps apt-cache search mysql | fgrep -i lib |
| 04:28.48 | foo | hacim: Can't seem to find it. |
| 04:28.57 | bucky | foo apt-cache search mysql |grep dev |
| 04:28.57 | kapil | foo: apt-cache search mysql | grep dev |
| 04:29.21 | bucky | which version of debian are you using g3brown ? |
| 04:29.28 | puff | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot |
| 04:29.31 | g3brown | 3.1 |
| 04:29.59 | puff | fbi: re: ricerfs, *now* you tell me :-) |
| 04:30.05 | bucky | g3brown, and you used apt-get to install proftpd ? |
| 04:30.11 | fbi | i was watching hockey. |
| 04:30.21 | fbi | actually i still am, there is another game on. |
| 04:30.37 | g3brown | Yeah, I apt-get install proftpd. |
| 04:31.13 | g3brown | The first install had a little walk through. I was just playing around with it and I wanted to get back to the walk-through to make sure I had options correct for standalone vs inetd. |
| 04:31.48 | SimonRaven | g3brown: dpkg-reconfigure proftpd maybe |
| 04:31.49 | bucky | g3brown, dpkg-reconfigure proftpd |
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| 04:32.02 | g3brown | The honeyd-common had the proftpd.sh file where dpkg mentions, but the original one was in /etc I believe |
| 04:32.32 | bucky | proftpd.sh doesn't help proftpd |
| 04:32.39 | g3brown | Yeah, that the screen I was looking for. |
| 04:32.45 | dondelelcaro | puff: you'd have to do it on the partition itself, can't do dd on a filesystem. |
| 04:33.00 | dondelelcaro | well, you can on files, but on a directory it makes no sense. |
| 04:33.05 | g3brown | bucky: proftpd.sh wasn't with proftpd? |
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| 04:33.16 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: is fsfs better than db? |
| 04:33.21 | bucky | g3brown, right |
| 04:33.40 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: dunno, I've had less problems with it; db may be faster. |
| 04:33.55 | deadcat | k |
| 04:33.58 | g3brown | bucky: It's a fresh install. What could the find have been for then? |
| 04:35.05 | bucky | g3brown, i don't know.. that's why i asked you what version of debian you're using |
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| 04:35.45 | bucky | g3brown, proftpd is braindead easy.. apt-get it.. edit /etc/proftpd.conf and restart it and use it |
| 04:36.35 | g3brown | Well I figured the .sh was some sort of script for it. |
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| 04:37.18 | Tired_ | Hello. I'm wondering about other users experiences with software RAID using Debian.... |
| 04:37.36 | g3brown | I was attempting to test performance settings between standalone and inetd, but I obviously can't even install it. Heh. |
| 04:37.41 | deadcat | bucky: i am using udev now. no more fuse patching for me |
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| 04:37.51 | cisse | Tired_: pretty good, i've run 5 quite a bit, i think it's faster than hardware with a fast proc |
| 04:38.25 | Tired_ | I have 3 9.1GB 10krpm SCSI discs, shoyuld I leave them separate, or set them up as RAID? Is RAID setup complicated or counterintuitive? |
| 04:38.31 | bucky | g3brown, proftpd.sh is in freebsd |
| 04:38.58 | vikas | hi, i upgraded to sid from sarge and installed a new kernel image (2.6.14) |
| 04:39.26 | vikas | then added "vga=791" in the boot parameters, but now my console blanks, and have to wait till gdm to start :( |
| 04:39.27 | puff | dondelelcaro: To clarify, i am taking the precaution of dd'ing the /mcgee partition on the old hard drive. This is a large (20GB) and not-essential partition, since it's a backup of some drives i still have in storage. |
| 04:39.29 | Tired_ | I'd consider 'apt-get mdadm' to be intuitive... |
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| 04:39.35 | vikas | anybody knows about this? |
| 04:40.01 | puff | dondelelcaro: However, a snow storm is blowing in and I'd like to get this box back in its rack and functioning normally, and get out of here, soonest. |
| 04:40.02 | bucky | vikas, did you recompile your own kernel? |
| 04:40.08 | puff | So I can continue fixing it from home. |
| 04:40.13 | g3brown | it was on my system (debian 3.1) until I deleted it. |
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| 04:40.22 | deadcat | bucky: i accidently let apt-get upgraded me to udev. when i try to go back to hotplug. some stuff werent working. so i jsut go with it now |
| 04:40.29 | vikas | bucky: no, its a stock deb kernel |
| 04:40.33 | Tortel | goodnight |
| 04:40.41 | poop | vikas: Maybe you're getting a shiny new fbcon |
| 04:40.51 | deadcat | Tortel: )= |
| 04:40.55 | dondelelcaro | puff: cool, so what's stoping it from booting now, and taking the offensive partition/drive home and working on it there? |
| 04:40.58 | puff | dondelelcaro: So I'm thinking in terms of being able to restore the partition from the dd image, after I get home. |
| 04:41.16 | dondelelcaro | puff: right, once you've got an image, you can mount it through a loopback and play with it; that bit is trivial. |
| 04:41.18 | puff | dondelelcaro: right now, the fact that i'm waiting for the dd to complete :-). |
| 04:41.18 | vikas | poop: ? |
| 04:41.27 | bucky | deadcat, i use wajig to put udev on hold... i like my fuse better - no mtab support - no security problem |
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| 04:41.37 | puff | dondelelcaro: I was hoping you would say that :-). |
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| 04:41.50 | deadcat | bucky: hehe. |
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| 04:42.14 | bucky | vikas, have you tried vga=normal |
| 04:42.20 | HPS`Fresh | hi. does anybody know about apache_mon? it`s an apache module, restarting httpd then load average is too big an block ip addresses, who dos server. i seek for some thing, restart apache when memory and swap runs out |
| 04:42.33 | Tortel | ... |
| 04:42.39 | Tortel | didnt want that one... |
| 04:42.51 | MrBlowtatoes | how would i go about installing a generic usb PS2toPS controller adapter up in debian? |
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| 04:43.13 | vikas | bucky: oh, no... i used "vga=791" with 2.4.27 and it worked..., i'll try that one if it helps.. |
| 04:43.30 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: sdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsdfsfsdfasdfasdfa |
| 04:43.40 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: BLEARGH |
| 04:43.41 | poop | vga= is for vga text mode (peecee crap), while 2.6.x is probably loading up vesafb at least |
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| 04:44.11 | bucky | vikas, listen to poop ^^ |
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| 04:44.22 | poop | damn, qemu doesn't compile on unstable |
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| 04:44.46 | deadcat | what happend to me? |
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| 04:44.53 | vikas | poop: yeah, i just looked up the config in /boot and CONFIG_FB_VESA is set to "y" |
| 04:45.01 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: seems like FSFS is better than DB. according to the book |
| 04:45.16 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: yeah, that's the general consensus |
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| 04:45.22 | poop | vikas: You could try feeding the kernel a video mode ... |
| 04:45.26 | vikas | poop: so, is there some other setting to get it to use 1024x768? |
| 04:46.01 | poop | vikas: You could also login blind and try something like fbset "1024x768-60" |
| 04:46.02 | vikas | poop: thanks, i'll try googling for that |
| 04:46.08 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the cvs $Id:$ tag dont work in svn, whats the equiv? |
| 04:46.43 | litage | why would an md device (/dev/md6) be missing a drive after rebooting? i added sdb10 to md6, recreated the initrd image, rebooted, and md6 no longer contained sdb10 |
| 04:46.44 | vikas | poop: so now we can set the resolution at runtime? |
| 04:47.06 | servus | xvidtune? |
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| 04:47.24 | servus | With its huge disclaimer of "I'm not responsible if your monitor explodes!" |
| 04:47.45 | smartbhai | hi people what is the device name for a usb to serial converter ..device.. |
| 04:47.58 | servus | It will let you switch between X video modes on the fly though, or even configure them on the fly, which I hear is dangerous :) |
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| 04:49.34 | MrBlowtatoes | hello, can anyone help me with this problem? |
| 04:49.39 | poop | vikas: fbset isn't new |
| 04:49.57 | vikas | poop: i tried fbset, but it says couldn't open "/dev/fb0" |
| 04:50.12 | poop | vikas: lsmod | grep fb |
| 04:50.20 | methodix | hello how can install a usb device in debian? |
| 04:50.30 | poop | methodix: What usb device? |
| 04:50.34 | methodix | like an mp3 player |
| 04:50.41 | MrBlowtatoes | oh my. |
| 04:50.51 | methodix | samsung usb mp3 player |
| 04:51.35 | vikas | methodix: just plug it in, and do a cat /proc/partitions, it shows up as a scsi device if usb modules are loaded |
| 04:51.50 | amd_goon | bye |
| 04:51.52 | methodix | k |
| 04:52.01 | SimonRaven | l |
| 04:52.15 | vikas | poop: no go, no fb modules inserted, should i try modprobe? |
| 04:52.19 | MrBlowtatoes | hey, i am haveing the same problem, linux is tellign me my joystick is not pluged in, and it is, [it is also usb] |
| 04:52.32 | MrBlowtatoes | debian* |
| 04:52.33 | vikas | poop: but as i said earlier, vesafb is compiled into the kernel itself |
| 04:52.55 | poop | vikas: It's not compiled in on my stock 2.6.14. |
| 04:53.10 | bucky | i think they do stuff like that in unstable just to mess with people |
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| 04:53.20 | poop | vikas: It must not be driving if you have no /dev/fb0 |
| 04:53.51 | poop | vikas: What video card? You could try loading the appropriate fb module. |
| 04:54.04 | MrBlowtatoes | Hrm, can anyone even see my text? |
| 04:54.18 | SimonRaven | no |
| 04:54.23 | vikas | poop: its a dell laptop with ati mobility M24 |
| 04:54.29 | bucky | MrBlowtatoes, what does lsmod |grep usbcore tell you? |
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| 04:54.58 | MrBlowtatoes | usbcore 104164 4 usbhid,uhci_hcd |
| 04:54.59 | poop | vikas: I see a radeonfb |
| 04:55.19 | poop | MrBlowtatoes: And lsusb? |
| 04:55.43 | MrBlowtatoes | can i pastev 3 lines? |
| 04:55.45 | phycho | hey guys |
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| 04:55.47 | MrBlowtatoes | paste* |
| 04:55.51 | phycho | iam trying to compile a kernel with debian |
| 04:55.54 | phycho | and im trying the following: |
| 04:55.55 | phycho | makeargs="CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" make-kpkg --append-to-version=qos --initrd kernel_image modules_image |
| 04:55.58 | phycho | can anyone tell me why that doesnt work? |
| 04:56.04 | poop | MrBlow: Try to pick out what's important |
| 04:56.06 | SimonRaven | !tell MrBlowtatoes -about paste |
| 04:56.07 | phycho | (im trying to use gcc 3.4 since its a 2.4.x kernel) |
| 04:56.10 | harfooz | How do I remove the Computer, Home, and Wastebasket icons from a standard Gnome desktop? |
| 04:56.16 | phycho | 2.6 doesnt like gcc 4.x |
| 04:56.17 | MrBlowtatoes | well, i don't knwo what any f it means, it's just numbers |
| 04:56.18 | phycho | any ideas |
| 04:56.38 | MrBlowtatoes | Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0545:8333 Xirlink, Inc. |
| 04:56.39 | blockd | harfooz: I think you can just delete them. IIRC they're just *.dekstop files... |
| 04:56.43 | MrBlowtatoes | that is the only unique line |
| 04:56.44 | blockd | *desktop |
| 04:57.00 | poop | MrBlow: Are you sure your joystick is HID compliant or whatever? |
| 04:57.00 | vikas | poop: ok, now i get some nos from fbset |
| 04:57.34 | poop | vikas: I'm surprised it doesn't load radeonfb, but I don't really claim to understand the detection magic these days. |
| 04:57.42 | MrBlowtatoes | HID complainnt, heh, i believe so. |
| 04:58.03 | harfooz | blockd, when I right-click on them, moving to the wastbasket isn't allowed. |
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| 04:58.31 | poop | MrBlow: I don't really know what the implications are about lsusb not knowing your device. Are you sure you don't need a specific module? Have you googled? |
| 04:58.40 | poop | There are like 30 joystick drivers. |
| 04:58.51 | poop | Mine works with the HID one or whatever it is. |
| 04:58.56 | vikas | poop: surprisingly fbset returns "1024x768-60" |
| 04:59.07 | MrBlowtatoes | specific modual?, you mena drivers? |
| 04:59.10 | MrBlowtatoes | mean* |
| 04:59.13 | blockd | harfooz: try from the shell... cd ~/Desktop and look for them there. There's probably a proper gnome way to do this though... I just don't use gnome so I don't know. |
| 04:59.15 | MrBlowtatoes | it didn't come with drivers btw. |
| 04:59.30 | vikas | poop: but, the console font is still quite big, like it was always |
| 04:59.34 | poop | MrBlow: yeah, search for the model and linux |
| 04:59.40 | MrBlowtatoes | useualy, iut shows up as a generic controller |
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| 05:00.07 | poop | poop: Try changing it to 800x600-60 or something |
| 05:00.21 | MrBlowtatoes | Er, it's the adapter that isn't working, it's an adapter that conects a playstation 2 contorller up to my pc through usb |
| 05:00.28 | blockd | harfooz: of course don't blindly move/delete files from ~/Desktop... just in case I gave the wrong impression. |
| 05:00.45 | MrBlowtatoes | it's a Radioshack adapter, heh |
| 05:00.51 | poop | MrBlow: I've given you all I know. I think google is going to help you more than IRC with such a question. |
| 05:01.02 | raden | anyone give me a DNS server in US that works 99 % of time |
| 05:01.10 | cisse | 198.6.1.10/142 |
| 05:01.14 | cisse | uunet's |
| 05:01.19 | MrBlowtatoes | how is that?, when i have no clue what i am looking for. |
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| 05:01.44 | MrBlowtatoes | search for model and linux you, say?, ok |
| 05:02.46 | harfooz | blockd, found it! gconf-editor -> apps -> nautilus -> uncheck show desktop. |
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| 05:03.23 | woddf2 | Haldo |
| 05:04.10 | vikas | poop: doesn't change anything... :( |
| 05:04.39 | vikas | poop: i also tried video=vesafb:1024x768-75 in the kenel boot parameter |
| 05:04.57 | vikas | that doesn't blank the console, but doesn't change the resolution as far as i can tell |
| 05:05.12 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: installed is also if you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M.*'; |
| 05:05.12 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 05:05.23 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 05:05.45 | woddf2 | How do I make PS/2 and USB mice coexist on xorg? I tried Google but didn't find anything. |
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| 05:06.13 | fbi | woddf2: with two mouse sections in xorg.conf (maybe) |
| 05:06.27 | vikas | woddf2: try /dev/input/mice as the port |
| 05:06.32 | fbi | woddf2: why do you need two mouse devices |
| 05:06.36 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 05:06.36 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M.*'; |
| 05:06.57 | woddf2 | I tried 2 xorg.conf sections. |
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| 05:07.05 | fbi | woddf2: why do you need two mouse devices |
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| 05:07.12 | woddf2 | That's not the point. |
| 05:07.14 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: installed packages =~ s/.*//; |
| 05:07.14 | dpkg | dondelelcaro: OK |
| 05:07.31 | fbi | pointless. |
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| 05:07.44 | MrBlowtatoes | hrm, in /dev/input/ all the device fiels are 0KB is that normal? |
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| 05:08.08 | dondelelcaro | MrBlowtatoes: they're special files. |
| 05:08.28 | vikas | is there a sample xorg.conf out there for setting up an external monitor through a docking station? |
| 05:08.42 | vikas | tried googling, wasn't of much help.. |
| 05:08.53 | MrBlowtatoes | google hardly ever is |
| 05:08.57 | fbi | vikas: man xorg.conf |
| 05:09.07 | fbi | you won't find a better "example" |
| 05:09.10 | vikas | the external monitor works, but only at the resolution the laptop lcd works :( |
| 05:09.22 | vikas | fbi: thanks |
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| 05:09.48 | MrBlowtatoes | heh, i have to be root to set my joysticks up |
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| 05:10.23 | woddf2 | I tried giving the PS/2 mouse a /dev/input/mice device, but that just made only the USB mouse work. |
| 05:10.47 | fbi | woddf2: try /dev/psaux for the PS/2 device and /dev/input/mice for the USB device |
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| 05:10.55 | woddf2 | I tried that aswell. |
| 05:11.15 | encompass | hey everyone |
| 05:11.23 | encompass | it sure is nice to be back in this room |
| 05:11.33 | bucky | !room |
| 05:11.33 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 05:11.34 | fbi | !room |
| 05:11.38 | fbi | pffft. |
| 05:11.43 | encompass | haha |
| 05:12.02 | encompass | channel |
| 05:12.03 | encompass | sorry |
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| 05:13.46 | vikas | bye ppl, gtg to office |
| 05:14.15 | encompass | see ya |
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| 05:15.53 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the $Id:$ dont work for me. what up? |
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| 05:16.59 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you need to svn propset svn:keywords 'Id' foofile; |
| 05:17.17 | deadcat | damn i have hella files |
| 05:17.26 | racarter | debian sarge, i just installed 3dchess, how do I start it |
| 05:17.31 | racarter | I don't see it anywhere obvious |
| 05:17.37 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you can do it on many files |
| 05:17.50 | bucky | racarter, like under games? |
| 05:17.56 | racarter | it's not there |
| 05:18.01 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: find . -type f |grep -v svn|xargs svn propset svn:keywords 'Id' foofile; or something |
| 05:18.09 | jlmb | I just installed wine (wine and wine-utils). When running winecfg to configure it, different winecfg processes are invoked until I break it. |
| 05:18.20 | jlmb | Non stop |
| 05:18.38 | woddf2 | I used dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to do it. |
| 05:18.49 | woddf2 | test |
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| 05:18.55 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: will that ignore binary files? |
| 05:18.59 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: no |
| 05:19.01 | racarter | i am going to remove the 3dchess package and readd it |
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| 05:19.23 | racarter | 3dchess does not work from shell command either |
| 05:19.26 | bucky | racarter, why.. a logout and login might add it to your menu |
| 05:19.33 | methodix | cat /proc/partition didn't work |
| 05:19.35 | racarter | I think I already rebooted |
| 05:19.43 | methodix | for the usb devicd |
| 05:19.45 | methodix | device |
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| 05:19.48 | racarter | should I be able to start it with $3dchess |
| 05:20.12 | racarter | because if so, I am not able to |
| 05:20.19 | bucky | racarter, dpkg -l menu that usually adds it without a logout |
| 05:20.24 | psychonate | racarter, you're not actually typing the "$" are you? |
| 05:20.24 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: if you want to do that, you'll probably need file and some grep fun to get that to work. |
| 05:20.30 | racarter | no |
| 05:20.41 | bucky | racarter, start it in a run box with 3dchess |
| 05:20.52 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ok. i just dont see why i cant just put the $Id:$ and it will automatically do it for me. |
| 05:21.05 | racarter | nope |
| 05:21.11 | bucky | racarter, try 3Dc |
| 05:21.14 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: the reason why is because not all files should have the $Id:$ interpolated |
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| 05:21.25 | deadcat | k |
| 05:21.35 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: which you couldn't do in CVS |
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| 05:22.10 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: cvs has -kb (binary files) and it wont add the tag |
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| 05:22.27 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: right, but then it doesn't do diffs and stuff, iirc. |
| 05:22.29 | racarter | 3dchess should work on kde right? |
| 05:22.49 | psychonate | racarter, the command is '3Dc' as bucky said |
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| 05:23.34 | racarter | 3Dc command not found |
| 05:23.43 | psychonate | er |
| 05:23.58 | psychonate | type "3" and hit tab a few times heh |
| 05:24.00 | naoliv | What are the differences between fgetty, mingetty and rungetty? Wich one to choose just to a simple getty? |
| 05:24.11 | bucky | racarter, ls -l /usr/games/3Dc |
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| 05:24.51 | Sharcho | What's the best way to mirror everything from one disk to another. The target partition is smaller than the source partiton so dd isn't an option. |
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| 05:24.58 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the only problem i am having with svn is that in my ~/.blahrc (for this server only), when i: cd /home; svn co file:///.../deadcat, it will fail and compilain that i have .bashrc already. rather, i want it to skip that file like cvs. because for my laptop. i dont want the .blahrc from the repo |
| 05:25.08 | racarter | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 53336 2004-01-12 08:18 /usr/games/3Dc |
| 05:25.18 | MrBlowtatoes | Ok, when ever i log into root, the joystick runs fine, if i'm not in root, it gives me a device file not found error. |
| 05:25.30 | MrBlowtatoes | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:25.36 | methodix | what other way can install this usb mp3 player? |
| 05:25.36 | bucky | racarter, can your video card do 3d ? |
| 05:25.43 | racarter | why does that say 2004 -01-12 by the way? |
| 05:27.15 | MrBlowtatoes | Any way to fix this so that it also runs on user? |
| 05:27.17 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: move .blahrc away temporarily; and move it back |
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| 05:27.36 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: you can also get it to work by using svn co --exclude '.blahrc' et al. |
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| 05:28.12 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: oh. then when i commit, will it ignore it too? |
| 05:28.17 | racarter | is there any other chess games for linux? |
| 05:28.24 | MrBlowtatoes | lol |
| 05:28.39 | bucky | racarter, tons.. apt-cache search chess |
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| 05:29.12 | racarter | yeah I remembered that command just now |
| 05:29.20 | racarter | I guess I'll go with gnuchess |
| 05:29.47 | puff | doubleukay: You still around? The poweredge I looked at had no face plate, so I'm not sure it was an 850, but it had three fans; one down on the power supply, with a metal grill, and what appears to be a double-fan unit in a plastic case, behind the cdrom drive. |
| 05:30.02 | puff | doubleukay You still around? The poweredge I looked at had no face plate, so I'm not sure it was an 850, but it had three fans; one down on the power supply, with a metal grill, and what appears to be a double-fan unit in a plastic case, behind the cdrom drive. |
| 05:30.39 | jlmb | Anyone running wine under sid? |
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| 05:31.00 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: it should, yes. |
| 05:31.01 | fbi | !anyone use wine |
| 05:31.01 | dpkg | No, no one uses wine, not even the people who use it. |
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| 05:31.48 | bucky | jlmb, i'm running wine from the debs on winehq in etch and i have IE6 :P |
| 05:31.50 | racarter | what's the command to purge a package? |
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| 05:31.55 | racarter | gnuchess sucks by the way |
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| 05:32.07 | jlmb | racarter: apt-get remove --purge |
| 05:32.07 | MrBlowtatoes | When one of the smart folks ain't busy, can you help me with an odd issue? |
| 05:32.10 | bucky | racarter, it can kick your ass |
| 05:32.26 | racarter | it can, i can't play chess from the command line |
| 05:32.31 | jlmb | I just installed wine (wine and wine-utils). When running winecfg to configure it, different winecfg processes are invoked until I break it. |
| 05:32.42 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: if it doesn't, you can always set svn:ignore; I personally have split those files out by host though, so I don't ignore them anymore. |
| 05:32.47 | bucky | you can't operate KDE :( |
| 05:33.20 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: ya. but then you have to use the program like conky -c blahrc, i am too lazy (= |
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| 05:33.35 | bucky | jlmb, the newer wine uses wt2 instead of winecfg.. do you have that? |
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| 05:34.06 | jlmb | bucky: no, no wt2 here. |
| 05:34.54 | bucky | jlmb, Installing from the WineHQ APT Repository with the console: http://winehq.org/site/download-deb |
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| 05:35.22 | jlmb | bucky: thanks, checking it out. |
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| 05:35.52 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: the probme is that the repo doesnt show my files in filename. that scares me (=. |
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| 05:35.54 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: oh, in those cases, I symlink the .blahrc to the appropriate host, or a default one if the host doesn't exist. |
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| 05:36.04 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: do an svn ls; |
| 05:36.09 | ma3x | on bootup I get "Failed to mount /selinux/: no such file or directory" |
| 05:36.10 | ma3x | Is there a problem? |
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| 05:36.21 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: not really, it just means that / doesn't have a /selinux |
| 05:36.46 | ma3x | dondelelcaro, Should I somehow fix it? |
| 05:36.57 | ma3x | there is a patch at https://www.redhat.com/archives/anaconda-devel-list/2005-August/msg00072.html |
| 05:37.02 | ma3x | but I wouldnt know how to apply it |
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| 05:37.47 | woddf2 | Haldo |
| 05:37.55 | dondelelcaro | ma3x: the patch doesn't matter; mkdir /selinux; as root if you care about it. |
| 05:37.55 | woddf2 | Where can I find the Qt libs? |
| 05:38.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell woddf2 -about search |
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| 05:38.42 | ma3x | dondelelcaro, thank you! |
| 05:39.03 | bucky | jlmb, use wt2 to install fake partition, DOM 98 and the other items on that wt2 menu |
| 05:39.16 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, the first part of it, dunno if that's all that needs to be done) |
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| 05:39.45 | ma3x | on bootup I get "gentrc.ko : error inserting module" Is this some kind of old? And what loads it? |
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| 05:39.55 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: aint not --exclude in co |
| 05:40.23 | bucky | jlmb, check out ftp://dino.dyn-o-saur.com/ie6.jpg |
| 05:40.49 | jlmb | bucky: hehe |
| 05:40.56 | ma3x | "/path/to/rtc.ko: No such device" |
| 05:40.56 | ma3x | is the message |
| 05:40.58 | smagy2 | hello can some one please point to documention on who apt-get works on deciding what to remove . for example i want to remove gnome-games, when i do apt-get remove gnome-games, it want s to remove gnome-desktop-environment, which is kiind of puzzling . |
| 05:41.11 | jlmb | bucky: nice |
| 05:41.24 | jlmb | bucky: not that nice, ie :P |
| 05:41.40 | deadcat | ma3x: then no rtc.ko. simple as that |
| 05:41.53 | woddf2 | yt |
| 05:41.56 | woddf2 | Oops |
| 05:42.01 | woddf2 | I was trying to exit ircII. |
| 05:42.03 | ma3x | deadcat, you mean not caring about the error message? |
| 05:42.42 | ma3x | and one more thing: I get this " /etc/network/options is deprecated " |
| 05:42.46 | ma3x | now what should i do about that? |
| 05:42.49 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: hrm... thought I remembered that being there. |
| 05:42.51 | ma3x | what exactly is deprecated in that file? |
| 05:42.56 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: must be something else that has --exclude. |
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| 05:43.21 | deadcat | ma3x: rm the file or ignore it |
| 05:43.29 | bucky | jlmb, i had to get a copy of MFC42.dll for my users fake system32/ at least that's what this howto said to do |
| 05:43.48 | ma3x | deadcat, thanks! |
| 05:44.03 | jlmb | bucky: that's weird, last time i had to run winecfg and that was it. |
| 05:44.04 | bucky | there's a MFC40.dll already in there which prolly works |
| 05:44.25 | bucky | jlmb, it's the new updated version on winehq |
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| 05:44.47 | ma3x | deadcat, anyway which file tries to loads genrtc.ko on bootup? I checked in /etc , nothing about genrtc.ko |
| 05:45.06 | deadcat | ma3x: /etc/modules maybe |
| 05:45.25 | deadcat | or whatever requires that module |
| 05:45.28 | ma3x | deadcat, I checked everything in /etc . genrtc is not even mentioned |
| 05:45.59 | puff | Ah,fuck... just figured out that my box appears to have hung while doing this dd. |
| 05:46.00 | puff | Sigh. |
| 05:46.03 | cheal | why is strace frozen? |
| 05:46.04 | deadcat | generic real time clock is common i think. |
| 05:46.40 | puff | hm, odd, I can get different ttys (shift-f2, etc), but I can't type at the ttyp. |
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| 05:48.52 | puff | Hm, odd. |
| 05:49.33 | dondelelcaro | puff: ^Q? |
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| 05:50.26 | puff | Damn. |
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| 05:50.51 | puff | So I just hit ctl-C because I thought that dd had hung, becaust it was *still* going after something like an hour. |
| 05:51.06 | netman1 | Hi All. Working with multiple remote desktops separated by several firewalls. Would like to share data between them like with cut and paste. Thought about starting an irc client on each, sharing the same irc server. Can anybody recommend a good simple (ssl?) irc server running on Debian? |
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| 05:51.23 | woddf2 | Haldo |
| 05:51.27 | JT | so you hit ctrl+c instead of going to another console and checking top? ok... |
| 05:51.47 | bucky | netman1, you have something against ssh? |
| 05:51.51 | dondelelcaro | puff: yes, it'll take a while; you may try doing something like dd if=foopartition of=blehfile bs=1024k; or something |
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| 05:52.22 | woddf2 | Even after installing libqt3-mt i386 3.3.5-3, configure in kdelibs still can't find Qt! |
| 05:52.41 | dondelelcaro | woddf2: you haven't installed libqt3-dev |
| 05:52.50 | dondelelcaro | woddf2: why are you building kdelibs anyway? |
| 05:52.51 | netman1 | bucky, its my way of life! Seriously, cut and paste between gui windows would be much nicer. |
| 05:53.27 | bucky | netman1, apt-cache show gpm |
| 05:53.51 | puff | http://pastebin.com/455131 |
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| 05:54.35 | deadcat | whos working on slim (small login manager) ? |
| 05:54.52 | puff | JT: i tried going to another console, those all appeared hung to; as i said above, i could get the console to come up, but it didn't react to me typing my username (i.e. the username did not appear). That may be normal in single-user-mode, of course. |
| 05:54.59 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: #svn said no way to exclude files |
| 05:55.00 | netman1 | bucky: thanks for the tip. |
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| 05:55.08 | woddf2 | Thanks |
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| 05:55.15 | JT | ah, well, single user mode doesn't have other consoles |
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| 05:55.44 | puff | JT: That would have been useful information five minutes ago :-) |
| 05:55.48 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: well, there is; you just use -N and then update the specific files; but it's rather annoying. |
| 05:55.57 | JT | 1 user.. 1 console... |
| 05:56.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: damn. lot of work |
| 05:56.20 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: the other method is to mkdir tmp; svn co blehblahblar tmp; mv tmp/.svn .; svn update; |
| 05:56.40 | dondelelcaro | and then svn revert as appropriate. |
| 05:56.41 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: i am just gonna stick with cvs for now then )= |
| 05:56.47 | dondelelcaro | *shrug* |
| 05:56.50 | deadcat | (= |
| 05:57.02 | dondelelcaro | hopefully you'll never have to move files. |
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| 05:57.19 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: cvs delete then cvs add |
| 05:57.54 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: watch what happens when you have two files with the same name... and it also means that you can't track revisions between those files. |
| 05:58.01 | puff | So let me guess, there's no way to resume a dd, is there? |
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| 05:58.09 | dondelelcaro | puff: not trivially, no. |
| 05:58.18 | puff | Sigh. |
| 05:58.30 | puff | The htdocs directory weighed 27GB and went in 20-30 minutes. |
| 05:58.58 | dondelelcaro | puff: if you know exactly how many blocks were successfully copied, you can skip on the input and the output... |
| 05:59.12 | puff | I think something weird happened... kmc |
| 05:59.16 | dondelelcaro | puff: see skip and seek |
| 05:59.17 | puff | with the dd. |
| 05:59.26 | dondelelcaro | puff: how big is this partition? |
| 05:59.50 | puff | the /mcgee partition contained 34Mb. |
| 06:00.16 | puff | I suspect it was trying to dd the entire drive or something. |
| 06:00.58 | dondelelcaro | puff: you went dd if=/dev/hda5 of=foofile; right? not if=/dev/hda or something. |
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| 06:01.20 | jlmb | bucky: thanks , everything solved now |
| 06:01.23 | bucky | dd if=~/htdocs ? |
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| 06:01.53 | bucky | jlmb, do you have a dos prompt? |
| 06:01.56 | puff | Hm, wait. I lie, not 34M. |
| 06:02.17 | bucky | jlmb, bin/dos |
| 06:02.49 | puff | I did dd if=/dev/hdc6 | gzip > /home/mcgee/oldmcgee.dd.gz |
| 06:03.10 | puff | Where "df -h" sows /old/mcgee as being /dev/hdc6 |
| 06:03.12 | jlmb | bucky: ? no. I installed from those repo. I don't see any other docs there. |
| 06:03.14 | puff | Shows. |
| 06:03.43 | puff | /old/mcgee has 14GB used and 72GB available. |
| 06:03.49 | puff | so... I just ealized. |
| 06:03.55 | puff | dd doesn't care about used/avaialble,does it? |
| 06:03.59 | puff | It's just making an image copy of the drive. |
| 06:04.23 | puff | So unless I have 86GB to spare (or however much the gzipped version weighs).... |
| 06:04.31 | puff | Okay, so... |
| 06:04.32 | jlmb | bucky: there's wcmd but i don't know what you mean. |
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| 06:05.31 | bucky | jlmb, wt2 was supposed to install a bin dir in your home dir with executables in it for dos etc. |
| 06:05.33 | starfishy | this may or may not be debian specific but I have no idea where else to ask, so i hope it's ok to ask here |
| 06:05.36 | dondelelcaro | puff: yerp. |
| 06:05.46 | dondelelcaro | puff: so you may want to just rip off the directories on that partition separately. |
| 06:06.00 | starfishy | i have a 12-button mouse (USB) and am trying to get it to recognize all the buttons in debian-amd64 |
| 06:06.24 | starfishy | i am getting the same events for several buttons |
| 06:06.35 | starfishy | i already checked kernel config |
| 06:06.39 | starfishy | removed xmodmap |
| 06:06.43 | starfishy | still the same problem |
| 06:06.43 | bucky | starfishy, does it work in windows :P |
| 06:06.45 | jlmb | bucky: there's no wt2. Which package provides it? |
| 06:06.48 | puff | dondelelcaro: okay. |
| 06:06.50 | puff | dondelelcaro: Hm. |
| 06:06.52 | LordMyren | i cant even count that high |
| 06:06.58 | starfishy | bucky: i wouldnt know, have no windows |
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| 06:07.14 | LordMyren | you haveth the X window |
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| 06:07.19 | starfishy | i assume it does because it worked with my old P4 installation |
| 06:07.27 | starfishy | this is an Athlon 64 |
| 06:07.28 | LordMyren | i'ma shut up and go away now. :/ |
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| 06:08.09 | puff | Huh, i may have just found where the bad directroy entry is... |
| 06:08.21 | bucky | jlmb, the new winetools on winehq.. remember the link i gave you? did you use that or not? ..btw if it's working now don't screw with it |
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| 06:08.52 | puff | i was trying to look in /old/mcgee/root/darksleep/var/www/htdocs to see if I had a complete copy of it already, and I got "ext3_readdir: bad entry in diretory #9etc" |
| 06:09.34 | dondelelcaro | ah, right. |
| 06:09.36 | puff | Hm, same in /old/mcgee/darksleep/root/home |
| 06:10.00 | jlmb | bucky: Yes, i used that repo. oh, I instaled wine only. The old winetools package was named wine-tools. |
| 06:10.03 | dondelelcaro | sounds like an ext3 issue; fsck on it should fix it... alternatively, you can remount it as ext2... |
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| 06:10.14 | dondelelcaro | in any case, I'm blowing this join. |
| 06:10.17 | dondelelcaro | s/join/joint/ |
| 06:10.19 | puff | So... since /mcgee was an archive of the preceding generation of this server anyway, time to torch /old/mcgee and dig up those drives. |
| 06:10.34 | puff | dondelelcaro: how would I see what kind of drive it is? |
| 06:10.43 | puff | Er, partition. |
| 06:10.44 | puff | it was. |
| 06:10.46 | dondelelcaro | puff: mount; will tell you what the filesystem is. |
| 06:10.59 | puff | It's ext3. |
| 06:11.03 | puff | Odd. |
| 06:11.17 | puff | I'd swear it was reiserfers. |
| 06:11.19 | puff | Serfs. |
| 06:11.27 | puff | Is it possible to mount a reiserfs as ext3? |
| 06:11.44 | dondelelcaro | uh... if you can, you've got serious issues. |
| 06:11.47 | LordMyren | hahaha, you can TRY, but I dunna think the results will be pretty |
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| 06:12.08 | LordMyren | i did a --rebuild-tree yesterday and was reminded why reiser is skkkettchhyyy |
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| 06:12.17 | puff | Hm... /old is reiserfs, /old/mcgee is ext3, in /etc/fstab |
| 06:12.24 | puff | dondelelcaro: many, many thanks. |
| 06:12.38 | puff | Okay, so changing it to ext2 will help |
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| 06:16.55 | jlmb | bucky: Im checking wt2, now I see what you meant. thanks again |
| 06:17.09 | apeteguiando | help me |
| 06:17.25 | apeteguiando | a have ipw2200 because no found |
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| 06:20.49 | bucky | !ipw2200 |
| 06:20.49 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
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| 06:46.30 | tarzeau | stew: what means icky? what's the change to make it look better? |
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| 06:47.04 | Sneaky_Bastard | "icky" ? is what girls say when discribing frogs, lizards and bugs |
| 06:47.07 | Sneaky_Bastard | describing |
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| 06:50.40 | quittt | tell me a good cd burner please |
| 06:52.00 | psychonate | quittt, K3B is a nice gui |
| 06:52.09 | quittt | psychonate, another one |
| 06:52.13 | jm_ | cdrecord |
| 06:52.20 | psychonate | quittt, why another? |
| 06:52.46 | quittt | a gnome basead one |
| 06:53.13 | psychonate | I think there's one called gnomebaker or something like that; dunno if it's any good though |
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| 06:53.26 | psychonate | there's also the nautilus cd burner |
| 06:53.41 | jnc | Sneaky_Bastard: 'icky' is what i say when snow drops and forms a slush, and i have to walk through it to get to my car which is covered in more of the white shit |
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| 06:53.44 | wobbler | quittt, gnomebaker is good |
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| 06:54.28 | jnc | gnomebaker wasn't quite stable enough for any practical use IMO |
| 06:54.38 | jnc | there's one that star.. |
| 06:54.39 | jnc | hm |
| 06:54.40 | quittt | wobbler, mark knopfler is something awesome |
| 06:54.41 | jnc | serpentine? |
| 06:54.52 | psychonate | until K3B comes back to Testing, I'll continue to use command line heh |
| 06:55.05 | jnc | psychonate: it's held back by cdrdao |
| 06:55.05 | Azar | hello honorables, major cry for help here, I just got a brand new PC, the HD was formatted with NTFS, when it comes to partition, I can't seem to be able to navigate in order to add a bootable partition in addition to swap |
| 06:55.16 | jnc | psychonate: cdrdao is *not* going to come back |
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| 06:55.41 | jnc | Azar: uhh |
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| 06:55.48 | jnc | Azar: what's the target objective |
| 06:55.48 | franked | anyone here used an HSF conexant usb modem? drivers are installed and kppp/wvdial dials but never connects. instead i get a "No Carrier" err. |
| 06:55.48 | psychonate | jnc, well, I heard K3B would be coming back eventually, but I guess I can't really say for sure |
| 06:55.54 | ke6isf | Azar: Have you tried removing the NTFS partitions and replacing them with Linux partitions? |
| 06:56.13 | Azar | ke6isf, yes |
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| 06:56.17 | psychonate | jnc, if it doesn't, then I will probably just keep using command line tools, because I have never found another burning GUI worth a damn IMO |
| 06:56.25 | Azar | but I can't seem to be able to add a secondary partition |
| 06:56.32 | jnc | psychonate: um, xcdroast, duh |
| 06:56.34 | jnc | :) |
| 06:56.45 | Azar | and I don't know how to change the MB numbers |
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| 06:57.24 | psychonate | jnc, last time I tried it, it took forever to scan my drives without scsi emulation |
| 06:57.40 | psychonate | jnc, also, does it have good DVD burning support? |
| 06:57.56 | jnc | psychonate: you uh, need to have a cd in the drive, or it will take forever |
| 06:58.05 | psychonate | jnc, :( |
| 06:58.06 | jnc | having even a blank disc in the drive will speed that up |
| 06:58.19 | jnc | DVD? not that i remember |
| 06:58.27 | psychonate | basically, here is what I need from a gui burner: |
| 06:58.32 | Azar | how can I add a new partition? |
| 06:59.09 | Azar | hda1 Boot Primary Linux swap Size 120031.5MB is what I get |
| 06:59.32 | psychonate | support for decoding of mp3, vorbis, and flac at least, support for normalize, DVD burning support, .m3u playlist support (for easily burning audio CDs) |
| 06:59.40 | psychonate | K3B was the only app I found that gave me all of that heh |
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| 07:02.36 | Azar | for swap partition what should I chose: Primary or Logical? |
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| 07:05.59 | learnfromscratch | how do i find what x server driver i should use?? for my video card.. i am configuring my xserver-xfree86 |
| 07:06.08 | MrBlowtatoes | hello, i have a problem, my joy stick works when i log into root, but if i log into user, i get a 'decive file not found' error, anyhtign i can do to fix this? |
| 07:06.41 | Azar | for swap partition what should I chose: Primary or Logical? |
| 07:07.14 | learnfromscratch | i think it does not matter.. Azar |
| 07:07.15 | jewel | Azar, I don't think it matters |
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| 07:07.32 | cheal | learnfromscratch: if it's not detected, you should be able to use vesa |
| 07:07.41 | jewel | learnfromscratch, first find out what video card you have |
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| 07:08.59 | Azar | thanks |
| 07:09.05 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, you probably have to change the permissions for the device entry in /dev |
| 07:09.17 | Azar | it is for the first time that the installation does not prompt me for file type |
| 07:09.17 | LordMyren | from the /dev/urandom department, how do you spell Lazeruth? |
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| 07:11.55 | quittt | hey |
| 07:12.06 | quittt | I am having strange problems when I try to burn a CD |
| 07:12.10 | quittt | an audio cd |
| 07:12.13 | quittt | cdrecord: No write mode specified. |
| 07:12.13 | quittt | cdrecord: Asuming -tao mode. |
| 07:12.13 | quittt | cdrecord: Future versions of cdrecord may have different drive dependent defaults. |
| 07:12.13 | quittt | cdrecord: Continuing in 5 seconds... |
| 07:12.13 | quittt | cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.12-1-686 |
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| 07:12.20 | MrBlowtatoes | you mean the read/write access? |
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| 07:12.23 | crash3m_ | thats not strange |
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| 07:12.28 | quittt | cdrecord: WARNING: This causes a high risk for buffer underruns. |
| 07:12.30 | quittt | scsidev: '/dev/hdc' |
| 07:12.32 | quittt | devname: '/dev/hdc' |
| 07:12.33 | MrBlowtatoes | rw is available for every one |
| 07:12.34 | quittt | scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 |
| 07:12.36 | quittt | Warning: Open by 'devname' is unintentional and not supported. |
| 07:12.39 | crash3m_ | quittt: nice flood |
| 07:12.40 | quittt | Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 |
| 07:12.41 | crash3m_ | buttplug |
| 07:12.42 | quittt | Error: Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? |
| 07:12.44 | quittt | : Operation not permitted |
| 07:12.46 | quittt | cdrecord: Warning: using inofficial version of libscg (ubuntu-0.8ubuntu1 '@(#)scsitransp.c1.91 04/06/17 Copyright 1988,1995,2000-2004 J. Schilling'). |
| 07:12.46 | crash3m_ | !ops quittt |
| 07:12.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: quittt |
| 07:12.49 | quittt | SCSI buffer size: 64512 |
| 07:12.51 | quittt | Cdrecord-Clone 2.01.01a03 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2005 Joerg Schilling |
| 07:12.53 | quittt | NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord |
| 07:12.55 | quittt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:12.57 | quittt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.09 | quittt | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:13.11 | quittt | TOC Type: 0 = CD-DA |
| 07:13.13 | quittt | Using libscg version 'ubuntu-0.8ubuntu1'. |
| 07:13.15 | quittt | atapi: 1 |
| 07:13.16 | ApEtc | cripes |
| 07:13.17 | quittt | Device type : Removable CD-ROM |
| 07:13.18 | MrBlowtatoes | is quitt someone important?, becasue 'im going to ignore him |
| 07:13.19 | quittt | Version : 0 |
| 07:13.21 | quittt | Response Format: 2 |
| 07:13.23 | quittt | Capabilities : |
| 07:13.25 | crash3m_ | MrBlowtatoes: just a moron |
| 07:13.25 | quittt | Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST' |
| 07:13.27 | quittt | Identifikation : 'CD-RW GCE-8526B ' |
| 07:13.29 | quittt | Revision : '1.03' |
| 07:13.31 | quittt | Device seems to be: Generic mmc CD-RW. |
| 07:13.32 | kristalino | ermmmm |
| 07:13.33 | quittt | Current: 0x0009 |
| 07:13.35 | quittt | Profile: 0x000A |
| 07:13.39 | quittt | Profile: 0x0009 (current) |
| 07:13.39 | crash3m_ | quittt: STOP! |
| 07:13.41 | quittt | Profile: 0x0008 |
| 07:13.43 | quittt | Profile: 0x0002 (current) |
| 07:13.45 | quittt | Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). |
| 07:13.47 | quittt | Driver flags : MMC-2 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE |
| 07:13.49 | quittt | Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R16 RAW/R96P RAW/R96R |
| 07:13.51 | quittt | Drive buf size : 1951488 = 1905 KB |
| 07:13.53 | quittt | FIFO size : |
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| 07:13.53 | crash3m_ | ugh |
| 07:13.54 | kristalino | quittt, QUIT ! |
| 07:13.55 | quittt | sorry |
| 07:13.57 | quittt | =/ |
| 07:14.01 | quittt | MrBlowtatoes, go to #flood |
| 07:14.05 | quittt | go there MrBlowtatoes |
| 07:14.09 | quittt | ? |
| 07:14.11 | quittt | sorry |
| 07:14.13 | quittt | crash3m_, ok but go to flood to have a look |
| 07:14.23 | crash3m_ | WHY? I just saw 600 lines of CRAP |
| 07:14.50 | servus | quittt: Or at least stop humping your enter key. |
| 07:14.52 | crash3m_ | quittt: please, use a pastebin for more than 2-3 lines |
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| 07:15.13 | quittt | I KNOW THAT SORRY STOP with that too you are flooding the channel with shit too |
| 07:15.19 | ke6isf | !tell quittt -about flood |
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| 07:15.30 | MrBlowtatoes | jewel, what should i do, i have given all the permissions [read wirte] to all users on every file in that folder. |
| 07:15.34 | quittt | ke6isf, fuck you |
| 07:15.54 | crash3m_ | HAH, yeah my 5 lines were a real distraction mixed up with your 70 |
| 07:16.01 | poop | quittt: What's with the spam? |
| 07:16.13 | crash3m_ | and somehow, in those 70 lines, theres no errors...imagine that |
| 07:16.14 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, that's the wrong way to go about it |
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| 07:16.30 | jewel | you have to figure out which device it is |
| 07:16.33 | MrBlowtatoes | what do you suggest? |
| 07:16.43 | MrBlowtatoes | it's js0 |
| 07:16.50 | MrBlowtatoes | device file anyways |
| 07:16.51 | ke6isf | quittt: Stow it, pal. You flooded the channel, whether by accident, and expletives aren't helping your case. TAke your lumps and get over it. |
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| 07:17.11 | ke6isf | *plonk* |
| 07:17.43 | quittt | OK I KNOW I AM NOT STUPID CAN YOU SHUT UP PLEASE?! oh my god... it was by accident you are so anoying... I already said sorry... if want someone to suck you call a bitch, not me |
| 07:18.01 | bucky | quittt, here's the key line Cannot gain SYS_RAWIO capability.Is cdrecord installed SUID root? |
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| 07:18.26 | quittt | bucky, what does it mean? |
| 07:18.29 | bucky | quittt, you need to dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord and check the set uid box |
| 07:18.34 | bucky | dumb ass |
| 07:18.41 | poop | Time for a timeout? |
| 07:18.42 | bucky | quittt, and dont' flood anymore |
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| 07:19.15 | Coke | Is there an easier way to recover, release, nick and identify when someone has stolen your nick? Can't I just execute _one_ command that will do it all? |
| 07:19.32 | jm_ | Coke: write an alias? |
| 07:19.34 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, so do ls -la /dev/js0 |
| 07:19.47 | Coke | jm_: for several commands? |
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| 07:20.42 | ke6isf | Coke: Other than what jm_ said, nope. |
| 07:20.42 | jm_ | Coke: sure |
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| 07:20.42 | Coke | jm_: there's not a single alias with multiple commands in the default aliases. |
| 07:21.10 | MrBlowtatoes | crw-rw---- 1 root root 13, 0 2005-02-26 06:43 /dev/input/js0 |
| 07:21.13 | MrBlowtatoes | looks good? |
| 07:21.47 | Coke | Ah, ; |
| 07:22.31 | jm_ | Coke: something like this for irssi (I also have similar things for ircII) /alias cokeownsabeertojm /msg blabla; /nick foo |
| 07:22.57 | Coke | jm_: the examples excludes / before the command. |
| 07:23.08 | jm_ | yeah first command doesn't need a / |
| 07:23.16 | jm_ | different than ircII |
| 07:23.18 | sammyice | any pointers to how i can create dpk packages with scripts and all? |
| 07:23.38 | jm_ | and some say the second one doesn't either |
| 07:23.49 | jm_ | sammyice: www.debian.org/devel |
| 07:24.48 | jm_ | so irssi doesn't have // to override aliases? |
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| 07:25.04 | vega- | Hak`M|afk: nobody is interested if you are away, read the topic |
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| 07:26.51 | Coke | Ah, it works nicely. |
| 07:26.55 | Coke | jm & ke6isf thanks. |
| 07:27.10 | ke6isf | Coke: No problem. |
| 07:27.25 | Coke | man, finally I don't have to drink two cups of coffee before engaging in the nick recovering operation. |
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| 07:29.04 | MrBlowtatoes | how do i log into root from the kde login screen? root/password gives me a 'root logins not allowed' error |
| 07:29.11 | bob2_ | hah |
| 07:29.24 | Azar | I am so dizzy now, how many MB or GB is 29172031 ? |
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| 07:29.45 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, log in as a user and then 'su -' |
| 07:30.08 | MrBlowtatoes | ok, and about those devices? |
| 07:30.10 | kenboo | azar google :) |
| 07:30.16 | Azar | :) haha |
| 07:30.26 | Azar | nice |
| 07:30.38 | jm_ | MrBlowtatoes: devices.txt will tell you if major/minor are the right ones |
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| 07:30.58 | Azar | takes forever to run bad blocks on that number |
| 07:30.59 | MrBlowtatoes | major/minor? |
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| 07:31.13 | MrBlowtatoes | i know what the right devicces are, i jsut have to give them user access |
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| 07:31.48 | aeronadix | I downloaded a file using xchat, I have done it many times, but for some reason the file I have finished downloading isn't there. I set my download path to /partc which is mounted /dev/hda3 /partc |
| 07:32.05 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, so try chmod 777 /dev/js0 |
| 07:32.07 | kristalino | how to see automatically an icon of an usb drive when the usb drive is plugged in (in KDE) ? |
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| 07:32.23 | aeronadix | I also did chmod a+w /partc |
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| 07:32.51 | kenboo | set AllowRootLogin true in /etc/kde3/dkm/kdmrc ? |
| 07:32.55 | MrBlowtatoes | as root? |
| 07:33.34 | kenboo | just my guess. i have no exp with kde.. |
| 07:33.40 | MrBlowtatoes | ok, i did that command jewel, and nothing happened |
| 07:34.04 | MrBlowtatoes | laos, is there an automatic cdrom mounter? |
| 07:34.05 | litage | to write a bios update rom to a floppy, would you just run ``dd if=/path/to/rom of=/dev/fd0''? |
| 07:34.07 | MrBlowtatoes | also* |
| 07:34.32 | jm_ | create a group and chown the device files, or use an existing group |
| 07:34.49 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, did you check the permissions afterwards? |
| 07:34.59 | jewel | MrBlowtatoes, did you restart your program that uses the joystick? |
| 07:34.59 | greenbay | join #ilug-kochi |
| 07:35.04 | jm_ | autofs can be used for auto-mounting |
| 07:35.05 | MrBlowtatoes | the premissions are -rw-rw--- |
| 07:35.23 | MrBlowtatoes | jm_ was that chown thing to me? |
| 07:35.33 | jewel | litage, do you expect to boot from it afterwards? |
| 07:36.09 | litage | jewel: yes |
| 07:36.13 | MrBlowtatoes | ok, joystick now magicly works |
| 07:36.40 | jm_ | MrBlowtatoes: sure |
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| 07:36.41 | jewel | litage, I think you should search for some docs on the internet first |
| 07:36.51 | MrBlowtatoes | if i open terminal and tpye 'su then password, am i considered logged in as root? |
| 07:37.05 | jm_ | MrBlowtatoes: yes, but use "su -" |
| 07:37.08 | thoron | Is there any trully free and open WLAN adapters at 54 Mbps available for Linux? |
| 07:37.11 | ke6isf | MrBlowtatoes: Sort of. |
| 07:37.12 | MrBlowtatoes | or is that jsut temporary root access kinda thing |
| 07:37.27 | john | wow, that's pretty biased. you can't apply for Federal Financial Aid using a linux machine. |
| 07:37.44 | ke6isf | john: Yes, that's right, because no college student ever uses *nix. |
| 07:37.44 | jewel | it's only for that shell or xterm |
| 07:37.44 | MrBlowtatoes | lol |
| 07:38.24 | MrBlowtatoes | ok, i should be all set, now i only have 1 error left |
| 07:38.34 | selfcontr0l | is this an important error: Linux RTC init error in ioctl (rtc_irqp_set 1024): Permission denied |
| 07:38.35 | MrBlowtatoes | bumbed nvidia drivers |
| 07:38.37 | selfcontr0l | Try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to your system startup scripts. |
| 07:38.52 | aeronadix | how do you determine the file location of downloaded files in your xchat receive list |
| 07:39.16 | selfcontr0l | it's given when using mplayer to send a .wma file to output to a .wav |
| 07:40.23 | ke6isf | MrBlowtatoes: Can you explain further? |
| 07:40.50 | MrBlowtatoes | i got a fix for it, i saved it on the web soemwhere |
| 07:40.57 | MrBlowtatoes | simple .txt fiel |
| 07:40.59 | MrBlowtatoes | file* |
| 07:41.01 | thoron | Radeon 9250 seems to be only choise for graphics on Linux? |
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| 07:41.14 | kenboo | why..? |
| 07:41.25 | aeronadix | how do you run du to only show files larger than say 20mb? |
| 07:41.27 | LordMyren | EXA will catch up |
| 07:41.33 | LordMyren | buy what you want and trust X.org |
| 07:42.00 | LordMyren | Its not like any mere mortals are running EXA anyways, even those with 9250's |
| 07:42.02 | thoron | kenboo: it has some 3D stuff and still open. |
| 07:42.03 | ke6isf | thoron: Erm, no.... |
| 07:42.20 | thoron | Binary drivers are out of question. |
| 07:42.21 | jnc | LordMyren: you could do some grepping and junk |
| 07:42.26 | MrBlowtatoes | the nvidia drivers used for my card are on a out dated version, but a txt file i had fixes it, |
| 07:42.43 | MrBlowtatoes | i used it for knoppix, shoudl work for debian |
| 07:42.49 | ke6isf | !nvidia |
| 07:42.49 | dpkg | nvidia is, like, DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
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| 07:43.00 | ke6isf | MrBlowtatoes: ^^ |
| 07:43.02 | jm_ | aeronadix: use find + du or use some more advanced shell, like zsh |
| 07:43.21 | jnc | try seagate 7200.8 |
| 07:43.36 | jnc | i have maxtors, they both have been RMA'd at least once |
| 07:43.42 | jnc | crap for failure rates |
| 07:43.45 | poop | My latest is Samsung SATA and it's quiet |
| 07:43.53 | poop | I've had 1 maxtor that's gone back 3 times. |
| 07:44.05 | LordMyren | seagate doesnt have fluid bearings, they're a little louder, but they have 5 year warranty and more importantly you probably wont need to use it |
| 07:44.15 | aeronadix | jm_ can you show me an example |
| 07:44.22 | LordMyren | performance is pretty good on the seagate too... |
| 07:44.24 | poop | yeah, my powermac came with a Seagate and it brays like a donkey compared to the Samsung |
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| 07:44.29 | ke6isf | Had decent luck with WD, but they no longer have long warranty they used to have. =( |
| 07:44.36 | LordMyren | www.storagereview.com is the holy righteous shizzle for all things hard drive |
| 07:44.44 | jm_ | aeronadix: for which one? |
| 07:45.12 | jm_ | ke6isf: they have 3 years, don't they? |
| 07:45.16 | LordMyren | i cant tell you how many 80 gig maxtor's I've thrown out even under waranty |
| 07:45.22 | jnc | the new seagate SATA drives i own are the quietest drives i've EVER used |
| 07:45.25 | jnc | also the fastest |
| 07:45.29 | selfcontr0l | ok so i get this error from mplayer telling me to try adding "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to my startup scripts....i don't know which script it means... what does this line do? |
| 07:45.30 | ke6isf | jm_: Recently, they backed off to one year. =/ |
| 07:45.31 | aeronadix | jm_ a du + find, or du|grep "filesize contraint" or any |
| 07:45.34 | jnc | the old seagates are the loudest |
| 07:45.35 | thoron | I am think of buying Western Digital drive. |
| 07:45.44 | LordMyren | get a new one which will die in another 19 months after warranty is over... fsck that |
| 07:45.50 | LordMyren | thoron: dont, they dont have open bios. |
| 07:45.53 | jnc | selfcontr0l: uh |
| 07:46.00 | jm_ | ke6isf: no, they are again up to 3 years |
| 07:46.02 | jnc | selfcontr0l: you don't need that, more than likely |
| 07:46.04 | thoron | LordMyren: Which ones do? |
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| 07:46.17 | selfcontr0l | ok it doesn't seem like i need it cuz the thing works w/o it |
| 07:46.20 | ke6isf | jm_: That's odd, because this 120GB I got is running a one year warranty according to the documentation. |
| 07:46.31 | LordMyren | i think you're stuck buying flash drives thoron |
| 07:46.31 | ke6isf | Reminds me, I wonder if I'm getting that second rebate check. |
| 07:46.45 | jm_ | ke6isf: yup, they went back to 3 either this year or very late last year (possibly this year in summer) |
| 07:46.57 | kneet | Is there a reason to add "echo 1024 > /proc/sys/dev/rtc/max-user-freq" to startup instead of adding "dev.rtc.max-user-freq = 1024" to /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 07:46.59 | thoron | mailin rebate is so sick idea that it only works in USA. ;) |
| 07:47.06 | ke6isf | jm_: Then I wonder if that goes to all parts. |
| 07:47.32 | ke6isf | thoron: Feh, they'll look for reasons not to cut me a $30 check. |
| 07:47.33 | poop | echoing to /proc makes me feel dirty |
| 07:47.42 | selfcontr0l | kneet: ok is sysctl.conf a better way to do it? |
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| 07:47.44 | jm_ | aeronadix: find has -size argument, find -type f -size +20000k |
| 07:47.59 | aeronadix | jm_ thanks |
| 07:48.04 | selfcontr0l | poop: i feel dirty all the time.. don't wanna feel any dirtier |
| 07:48.08 | thoron | checks, we stoped using then like a decade ago. |
| 07:48.10 | kneet | Not sure - but it seems more elegant to me |
| 07:48.22 | Azar | I am unable to install agpgart support any idea what can cause failure? |
| 07:49.28 | MrBlowtatoes | login with su -? |
| 07:50.07 | selfcontr0l | kneet: how did you know it was /etc/sysctl.conf? |
| 07:50.30 | kneet | Well - you're setting a sysctl value :) |
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| 07:51.21 | kneet | I honestly don't recall what prompted me to go looking - but - I found a link one day and decided that was more elegant than hacking rc scripts |
| 07:51.22 | loxley_ | Azar: you are not providing very much info... what gfxcard do you have etc...? |
| 07:51.32 | kneet | Works just fine :) |
| 07:52.05 | kneet | although I've only got unstable boxes running 2.6 kernals - so I've not tested it on other setups |
| 07:52.26 | poop | "kernel" |
| 07:52.41 | kneet | Yes yes - need a typing course or a coffee (or both) |
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| 07:54.22 | thoron | ttp://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/11/Reports/tgn_update.htm |
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| 07:55.34 | sciboy | Hey guys, is it possible to set an internet quota on my machine? |
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| 07:56.04 | poop | The Internet will not accept quotas. |
| 07:56.11 | poop | It's very fussy. |
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| 07:56.44 | sciboy | Limit the amount of bandwidth used over my network connection. =| |
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| 07:57.09 | vulture | sciboy: you're probably being shaped by a router - so you could reconfigure that router if you had access to it.. |
| 07:57.09 | foo | If I installed something like snort from source.. how do I clear the config files? |
| 07:57.14 | vulture | but I assume you don't |
| 07:57.43 | sciboy | The router isn't mine, and thus don't have administrative access to it. |
| 07:58.24 | vulture | sciboy: Right, so learn to live within the limitations you've been set. |
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| 07:58.45 | sciboy | vulture: Eh? |
| 07:58.56 | sciboy | vulture: I want more limitations. =| |
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| 07:59.44 | jm_ | sciboy: in that case read Advanced routing howto |
| 07:59.50 | MrBlowtatoes | Can i upgrade Sarge debian to the unstable version? without needing to get new cds? |
| 07:59.51 | vulture | sciboy: Oh - then ask your ISP/sysadmin to limit the total transfer amount on a daily (or perhaps yearly, not sure which is worse) basis.. |
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| 08:00.12 | sciboy | vulture: I repeat, i don't have any access to the router, so i want to set the limit on this machine. |
| 08:00.23 | jm_ | MrBlowtatoes: please don't |
| 08:00.38 | MrBlowtatoes | Well, i need to run Wine :( |
| 08:01.50 | vulture | sciboy: Oh, I thought you wanted to remove (or lessen) an existing restriction imposed by network systems beyond your control. If you want to impose limitations on yourself I guess jm_'s suggestion of the Advanced Routing HOWTO might be a place to start |
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| 08:07.57 | blondie | sciboy: just learn some self control ;P |
| 08:08.25 | sciboy | blondie: A little assistance helps. =P |
| 08:08.34 | sciboy | blockd: apt-cache show wondershaper |
| 08:09.27 | blondie | :P |
| 08:12.05 | tarzeau | !popcorn |
| 08:12.53 | tarzeau | !seen abrotman |
| 08:12.55 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 9h 21m 25s ago, saying: 'gpm: technically .. udev will surpass devfs .. just not today :)'. |
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| 08:15.52 | kapil | MrBlowtatoes: wine can be drunk with sarge for company as well :) |
| 08:16.23 | MrBlowtatoes | Wine won';t work on sarge for me |
| 08:16.29 | SerajewelKS | !seen mwilson |
| 08:16.29 | dpkg | mwilson <i=8SaUcgh2@ip70-179-43-17.sd.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 52d 11h 10m 6s ago, saying: 'liam: Why use nvagp over the kernel AGP driver?'. |
| 08:16.36 | MrBlowtatoes | i have to switch to a new disto :( |
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| 08:17.07 | tarzeau | MrBlowtatoes: try sid? |
| 08:17.09 | kapil | MrBlowtatoes: you can run a mixed "stable+testing" system. |
| 08:17.09 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: why do you need to use wine at all |
| 08:17.13 | tarzeau | MrBlowtatoes: what do you try to run? |
| 08:17.21 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: dopewars.exe ? |
| 08:17.36 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: that's available for GTK =P |
| 08:17.44 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: YUCK! |
| 08:17.52 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: gtk is worse! use the console one at least |
| 08:17.57 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: Palm OS too |
| 08:18.17 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: i don't play it.. just saying |
| 08:18.29 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: what things do you play? |
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| 08:18.44 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: cube and homeworld 2, mostle |
| 08:18.46 | SerajewelKS | mostly* |
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| 08:19.48 | MrBlowtatoes | well, sevral VB applications and about 30 windows games... |
| 08:19.59 | MrBlowtatoes | such as UT/HL quake, etc |
| 08:20.13 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: UT has a linux client |
| 08:20.21 | MrBlowtatoes | not unreal 1 |
| 08:20.31 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: and wine doesn't do well with games, google cedega |
| 08:20.40 | MrBlowtatoes | cedega cost money |
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| 08:20.48 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: so use windows then |
| 08:20.50 | tarzeau | MrBlowtatoes: no you can get the cvs one |
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| 08:20.55 | MrBlowtatoes | cvs one? |
| 08:21.02 | tarzeau | MrBlowtatoes: you can get it by cvs, no? |
| 08:21.08 | tarzeau | or was that not cedega? |
| 08:21.11 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: cvs winex is a bitch to build |
| 08:21.24 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: i've built it but stock wine from debian worked better |
| 08:21.32 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: i've built worse things |
| 08:21.37 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: with directx games? |
| 08:21.42 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 08:21.50 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: you're cracked =/ |
| 08:21.57 | tarzeau | i wish |
| 08:22.21 | SerajewelKS | tarzeau: i have yet to see any DX game work on wine, except for rollercoaster tycoon, and that's slow as heck |
| 08:22.21 | MrBlowtatoes | i am thinking of switchign to ubuntu, people say ti supports Wine,and is newbie freidnly, so, heh |
| 08:22.32 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: debian supports wine |
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| 08:22.46 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: i've seen a few, but i don't remember which they were. i did that shit on my brothers computer. |
| 08:22.51 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: wine is buggy. it doesn't work all the time. |
| 08:22.54 | tarzeau | SerajewelKS: mine run entirely free software |
| 08:22.57 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: not debian's fault |
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| 08:23.27 | MrBlowtatoes | sarge debian cannot run Wine, i had to use a backport to get it to even install Wine, the it gave me more errors |
| 08:23.37 | SerajewelKS | !info wine sarge |
| 08:23.45 | litage | how do you make a cd bootable in k3b? |
| 08:23.47 | dpkg | wine: (Windows Emulator (Binary Emulator)), section otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050310-1.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 1268 kB, Installed size: 2872 kB |
| 08:23.53 | tarzeau | MrBlowtatoes: yeah there's also some other packages that are crap in sarge |
| 08:23.58 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: dpkg sats it's in stable |
| 08:24.01 | SerajewelKS | says* |
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| 08:25.19 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: anyway if you have that much windows stuff you still need to use, dual-boot or something. it's not worth trying to get it to work 100% on linux. |
| 08:26.07 | MrBlowtatoes | nah, i want to get used to linux, i can't stand windows |
| 08:26.35 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: if you can't stand windows, the first thing you should be doing is moving away from VB apps |
| 08:26.48 | MrBlowtatoes | UED1 is VB |
| 08:27.00 | SerajewelKS | wtf is ued1 |
| 08:27.12 | MrBlowtatoes | it's a map editor for unreal/utgoty |
| 08:27.52 | SerajewelKS | MrBlowtatoes: i highly doubt that will work smoothly on any variant of wine |
| 08:28.04 | MrBlowtatoes | i may get cedega |
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| 08:30.53 | debiaan | hello |
| 08:31.02 | MrBlowtatoes | hello |
| 08:31.02 | debiaan | how can i set X not to autostart? |
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| 08:31.44 | debiaan | i need to go directly to console. do i have to change boot paremeters? |
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| 08:33.04 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: remove your display manager |
| 08:33.25 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: dpkg -r xdm kdm gdm |
| 08:33.44 | debiaan | SerajewelKS: idiot. why would i remove it? |
| 08:33.49 | MrBlowtatoes | lol |
| 08:34.13 | bucky | debiaan, why keep it if you're not going to use it? |
| 08:34.18 | debiaan | and i cant get to console becouse X starts. |
| 08:34.23 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: because you don't want it. |
| 08:34.28 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: yes you can |
| 08:34.33 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: they're called VTs. |
| 08:34.33 | debiaan | bucky who said im not going to use it? i will use it |
| 08:34.49 | debiaan | SerajewelKS how do i goto console from grub menu? |
| 08:34.57 | bucky | debiaan, you don't know how to ctl+alt+F1 ? |
| 08:35.03 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: i suggest you get a clue how linux works before asking questions |
| 08:35.07 | debiaan | i have to configure my X11 config because X wont display in my laptop |
| 08:35.28 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: switch to a VT and stop your display manager |
| 08:35.29 | bucky | debiaan, i thought people in finland were supposed to be smart |
| 08:35.33 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: no need to reboot |
| 08:35.50 | debiaan | bucky we are. we are just a bit lazy ;) |
| 08:35.56 | Eclipser | bucky, too bad you're quite wrong, on most cases |
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| 08:36.20 | bucky | that was the second really stupid person from fi we've had in here recently |
| 08:36.28 | SerajewelKS | debiaan: and when someone who knows something about debian tries to give you help, it's best not to call them an idiot and then prove that you are one yourself. |
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| 08:36.57 | bucky | who opened the gate ? |
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| 08:38.38 | bucky | debiaan, ctl+alt+F1 and /etc/init.d/?dm stop and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 08:39.10 | bucky | if you're running xorg - dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 08:39.17 | litage | how do you add files/directories to an existing iso? |
| 08:39.18 | debiaan | bucky how would ctrl+alt+f1 work in grub? |
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| 08:39.30 | Eclipser | debiaan, it's not a grub thing |
| 08:39.42 | bucky | debiaan, if you can't even get to a console you need to go back to windows |
| 08:39.57 | douglas | does x-window-system share the same conf file as xorg |
| 08:40.05 | bucky | douglas, no |
| 08:40.10 | SerajewelKS | douglas: x-window-system is a virtual package |
| 08:40.15 | douglas | ah |
| 08:40.24 | SerajewelKS | douglas: so if x-window-system includes xorg, then obviously yes, otherwise no |
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| 08:40.39 | SerajewelKS | douglas: whether or not it does depends on what version of debian you use |
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| 08:40.57 | douglas | well xorg's using the video configs i put in first for x-window-system |
| 08:41.06 | douglas | and i'm trying to get it to purge that |
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| 08:41.36 | SerajewelKS | douglas: x-window-system is a smokescreen |
| 08:41.37 | poonj | hey guys |
| 08:41.41 | SerajewelKS | douglas: were you using xfree? |
| 08:41.49 | poonj | is there a good scp/sftp gui available? |
| 08:41.58 | SerajewelKS | poonj: xterm |
| 08:42.00 | douglas | yeah i think apt redirected me to xorg |
| 08:42.09 | douglas | did i miss a name-change memo |
| 08:42.22 | SerajewelKS | douglas: so you were using xfree, then upgraded to xorg? |
| 08:42.39 | douglas | this is a fresh install... and yes |
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| 08:42.54 | SerajewelKS | a fresh install of sarge, or etch? |
| 08:43.21 | douglas | first i apt-got x-window package, put in bad video confs, apt-get remove --purged it, apt-got xorg, got the right video settings, still using old settings |
| 08:43.29 | douglas | sid baby |
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| 08:43.36 | pngwn | heh |
| 08:43.42 | bucky | douglas, reinstall |
| 08:43.47 | douglas | thought so. :) ok |
| 08:43.54 | bucky | douglas, use etch |
| 08:43.56 | SerajewelKS | douglas: why are you even using sid |
| 08:44.02 | douglas | just want to build everything up one package at a time |
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| 08:44.22 | liberion | does anyone have a working cedegarc file for cedega 5.0.1? |
| 08:44.26 | douglas | why sid? i have a backup server and i wanted to have some excitement in my life so that i may go on longer without the touch of a woman |
| 08:44.33 | douglas | sid's all about that |
| 08:44.47 | SerajewelKS | douglas: that's a good reason i suppose =) |
| 08:44.50 | bucky | douglas, sid is for developers |
| 08:44.58 | SerajewelKS | douglas: though if i were you i'd spend more time on my social life |
| 08:45.07 | douglas | bucky i'm not as lame as i sound |
| 08:45.16 | bucky | prove it to me |
| 08:45.17 | SerajewelKS | douglas: then again it's 4am here and i'm still on #debian |
| 08:45.18 | crashbg[work] | how to get sqwebmail to work, i have configured exim4 and courier-pop |
| 08:45.37 | douglas | OK bucky i will. I put in a good two hours and i'm gonna start right the heck over |
| 08:45.42 | liberion | does anyone have a working cedegarc file for cedega 5.0.1? |
| 08:45.46 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: for one webmail usually uses imap to access mails |
| 08:45.48 | SerajewelKS | !tell liberion about repeat |
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| 08:46.11 | SerajewelKS | liberion: cedega makes rc files when you run it |
| 08:46.17 | SerajewelKS | liberion: it will produce a "working" rc file |
| 08:46.35 | liberion | SerajewelKS, ok thanx |
| 08:46.37 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: then can you tell me which package can get me to my Maildirs vie http |
| 08:46.42 | crashbg[work] | or php |
| 08:46.54 | douglas | SerajewelKS: it's not like it's a saturday night |
| 08:47.03 | SerajewelKS | liberion: and #cedega is probably a better place to ask questions like that |
| 08:47.47 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: squirrelmail should be nice .. and "via http or php" makes no sense .. maybe you should read up on that a bit bevore deciding what to use and trying to get it runnin |
| 08:47.48 | fireba11 | g |
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| 08:49.04 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: i mean a html or php script that can access Maildirs |
| 08:49.25 | crashbg[work] | fireba11: squirrelmail uses IMAP also |
| 08:49.36 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: that's what i mean .. for webmailer it makes no difference at all what mail storage format you use |
| 08:49.37 | kneet | What tools should I be investigating to convert a .3gp movie to something a little more usual (avi or normal mpeg etc)? |
| 08:49.50 | fireba11 | crashbg[work]: they all use imap ^^ |
| 08:50.18 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 08:50.18 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure populartiy-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 08:50.23 | MrBlowtatoes | what is the proper syntax for the kill process command>? |
| 08:50.32 | liable | kneet: nfi what 3gp is, but transcode may do it. |
| 08:50.50 | liable | MrBlowtatoes: man kill.... |
| 08:50.53 | kneet | liable, it's what I get from my mobile :) file says "ISO Media, MPEG v4 system, 3GPP" |
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| 08:51.23 | crashbg[work] | kneet: mplayer can |
| 08:51.29 | kneet | I know that on windows quicktime player will play it - and mplayer works fine as long as I say ao null - but - it would be good to get it to something a bit more common |
| 08:51.38 | crashbg[work] | but you will have to add some options, look @google |
| 08:51.50 | crashbg[work] | mplayer 3gp |
| 08:51.52 | kneet | crashbg[work], Didn't realise mplayer could also convert |
| 08:52.11 | crashbg[work] | it can play it and convert it(mencoder) |
| 08:52.26 | Azar | I am unable to locate the module for my Ethernet card on Kernel modules, someone can help me with a hint on National Semiconductor Corp. DP83815, I don't seem to see it on the modules list ? |
| 08:52.42 | kneet | crashbg[work], OK - cool - I'll look at mencoder |
| 08:53.02 | Azar | I am installing Debian Woody with 2.4 kernel |
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| 08:53.15 | MrBlowtatoes | what is the command for deleteing a folder? |
| 08:53.28 | crashbg[work] | yea but as i said - you will need adding some options to mplayer |
| 08:53.34 | MrBlowtatoes | I have a folder that won't delete |
| 08:53.39 | crashbg[work] | MrBlowtatoes: rmdir |
| 08:53.39 | snail | MrBlowtatoes: rmdir or rm -rf |
| 08:53.43 | crashbg[work] | MrBlowtatoes: rm -r |
| 08:53.54 | Azar | how can I get a module for my Ethernet card guys? |
| 08:54.01 | liable | Azar: for gods sake, when are you going to get yourself a sarge cd? |
| 08:54.16 | Azar | liable, sorry that is all I have for now |
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| 08:54.30 | Azar | I guess that ethernet card will not work with Woody? |
| 08:54.36 | MrBlowtatoes | TY |
| 08:55.12 | Zap-W | help , why is it using acpi when i have this Kernel command line: auto BOOT_IMAGE=Linux ro root=301 acpi=no |
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| 08:55.46 | crashbg[work] | Zap-W: did you installed acpi/acpid? |
| 08:56.09 | Zap-W | no |
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| 08:56.10 | Bogaurd | Hi, is there a mod in here that I could talk to please? |
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| 08:56.39 | Azar | I guess I need to buy an older Ethernet card bummer |
| 08:57.05 | Shadda | I've got a Etherpro 10/100 ISA you can have |
| 08:57.08 | Zap-W | i just compiled it in the kernel |
| 08:57.10 | Zap-W | but i dont want it |
| 08:57.46 | liable | Zap-W: well that was a stupid thing to do then? |
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| 08:59.59 | cmatheson_ | hey guys... simple question: how do i change the background color of slides in open office (impress?) |
| 09:00.05 | Bogaurd | Hi, is there a mod in here that I could talk to please? |
| 09:00.18 | cmatheson_ | Bogaurd: apt and dpkg? |
| 09:00.24 | Zap-W | still acpi=no always did the trick |
| 09:00.33 | Bogaurd | :P |
| 09:00.49 | Shadda | mod==moderator==op? |
| 09:01.56 | snail | is there a tool i can use to easily check my mouse. I _think_ my problem is that the left mouse button is giving me double clicks rather than single clicks due to failing hardware, but I'd like to check this |
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| 09:02.09 | kneet | crashbg[work], yep - mencoder can convert - but boy does it skip frames - lots of logging under conversion with frame skip and the result file is very jumpy :( I'll have to see which of the codecs/settings etc give the best results |
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| 09:02.51 | snail | Bogaurd: ops have no moderatoin function here, |
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| 09:03.01 | Bogaurd | snail: okay |
| 09:03.10 | bobslaede | i've got a bit of problem with cups, anybody in to that sort of kinkyness? |
| 09:03.15 | snail | but you're welcome to tell us what the issue is and we can help you with it |
| 09:03.17 | the_g0d | cmatheson_: dose http://www.bytebot.net/openoffice/OOoTute-1.html help ? |
| 09:03.35 | snail | bobslaede: we'll need more information |
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| 09:03.48 | bobslaede | of couse, here goes |
| 09:04.05 | Shadur | bobslaede: there are very nifty frontends for cups, including the builtin web admin panel |
| 09:04.09 | cmatheson_ | the_g0d: thanks, i'll check it out |
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| 09:04.31 | bobslaede | i've got two Epson printers, both working absolutely perfect, untill yesterday, when one of then doesnt work anymore |
| 09:04.40 | bobslaede | yeah, i use the web admin thing |
| 09:04.48 | idis | snail: xev can display received x events, but that won't tell you more than 2 events received I guess |
| 09:05.05 | bobslaede | now, in the error_log, one line in perticually say: Unknown Device:alc1900 |
| 09:05.15 | bobslaede | Its, an Epson-AculaserC1900 |
| 09:05.18 | snail | bobslaede: did anything happen yesterday? have you checked the plugs, connections etc |
| 09:05.26 | snail | idis: thanks |
| 09:05.30 | bobslaede | all the plugs, all the connection |
| 09:05.33 | bobslaede | its on the computer |
| 09:05.39 | bobslaede | in /dev/usb/lp1 |
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| 09:06.39 | bobslaede | any ideas? |
| 09:06.40 | Kami | quick question -> I just lost my lcd, now using crt, except crt cant handle xorg config. Using livecd now, but i cant find my xorg config on the partiton. -> what is the aptitude cmd to install xfree86, the package name escpecially |
| 09:07.29 | PhilKC | apt-get install x-server-free86 ? i think... |
| 09:07.46 | douglas | almost |
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| 09:07.54 | idis | Kami: you should try and fix xorg instead of installing xfree86 |
| 09:07.55 | bobslaede | xserver-free86 |
| 09:07.56 | PhilKC | xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:07.58 | drkat | you can apt-cache search for it if you'd like also |
| 09:08.00 | PhilKC | :/ |
| 09:08.01 | douglas | there ya go |
| 09:08.04 | cmatheson_ | the_g0d: i may be retarded but it seems to just be a list of exercises (it says to change the background color but doesn't tell me how) |
| 09:08.06 | Kami | thats what i thought... thanks :D... you guys rock ;) |
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| 09:09.02 | nimak2 | morning. everyone |
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| 09:09.19 | bobslaede | snail: do you know why it cant find the printer today? |
| 09:09.38 | bobslaede | or, what may have caused it |
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| 09:11.09 | the_g0d | cmatheson_: auch, sorry wrong link: http://searchopensource.techtarget.com/tip/1,289483,sid39_gci1131010,00.html |
| 09:11.24 | cmatheson_ | the_g0d: great, thanks |
| 09:12.08 | bobslaede | another weird thing about it is, that if i do an 'echo stuff >> /dev/usb/lp0' (the other printer) it works, but if i do it on the printer that doesnt work, it just hangs, like its receiving data, but it isnt really... |
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| 09:13.33 | bobslaede | quick question, can the USB ids be the same? Could two printers have the same usb id? |
| 09:14.09 | snail | bobslaede: not sure. try looking in /dev/ and below for files with yesterday's timestamp. |
| 09:14.19 | bobslaede | i dont know... if i do an 'lsusb' they have the same id |
| 09:14.22 | bobslaede | ok |
| 09:14.30 | idis | bobslaede: "usb ids" contain the hub and port # |
| 09:14.43 | snail | bobslaede: have you check dmesg for likely looking messages? |
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| 09:14.56 | Flosoft | hey |
| 09:15.13 | Flosoft | how do I upgrade my debian dist from 3.0 to 3.1? |
| 09:15.17 | bobslaede | idis: so, they shouldnt be the exact same id? |
| 09:15.29 | snail | bobslaede: no |
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| 09:15.42 | bobslaede | snail: it goes like it should i guess, nothing out of the ordinary |
| 09:15.57 | saintiss | hi |
| 09:16.01 | idis | bobslaede: bobslaede lsusb issues the bus and device # which are different |
| 09:16.08 | saintiss | what was the command again to check the version of a package in an apt repository? |
| 09:16.22 | bobslaede | Bus 004 Device 018: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer |
| 09:16.29 | bobslaede | Bus 004 Device 016: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer |
| 09:16.33 | idis | bobslaede: now all hardware of the same product is the same |
| 09:16.46 | bobslaede | thats the printers, and they're not stylus printers i guess, not by model anywho |
| 09:17.05 | bobslaede | idis: ok |
| 09:17.06 | Flosoft | how do I upgrade my debian dist from 3.0 to 3.1? |
| 09:17.17 | bobslaede | idis: so, that lsusb is allright? |
| 09:17.25 | idis | bobslaede: sounds like yes |
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| 09:17.30 | bobslaede | cool |
| 09:17.44 | bobslaede | time for a coffee/cigarette break from this printer nightmare |
| 09:18.13 | idis | bobslaede: i had problems cups related with printer queue being stopped, did you check this? |
| 09:18.56 | idis | bobslaede: that is cups queues jobs ok, but as queue is stopped the printer never "dequeues" |
| 09:19.05 | Flosoft | come on ... can anyone give me the sources I need to put in sources.list |
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| 09:19.48 | int21h | how to mount usb flash disk? |
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| 09:20.08 | bobslaede | idis: on the web interface it says the jobs where aborted |
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| 09:20.27 | bobslaede | idis: in the error_log it says Unknown Device |
| 09:20.30 | idis | bobslaede: does cups knows of the 2 printers atmoment? |
| 09:20.33 | Flosoft | how do I upgrade my debian dist from 3.0 to 3.1? |
| 09:20.37 | int21h | how to mount usb flash disk? |
| 09:20.41 | bobslaede | idis: yes |
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| 09:21.05 | ascoli | hi all, someone use mod_evasive with debian 3.1 ? |
| 09:21.05 | bobslaede | idis: but, if i use a differen PPD file for the printer, it will work, however not perfect |
| 09:21.10 | idis | Flosoft: there are really fine manuals for this like install manual and reference manual |
| 09:21.39 | idis | Flosoft: your question is handed ad nauseam on the net |
| 09:21.40 | int21h | ++++++++++++++how to mount usb flash disk?+++++++++++++++++++++++ |
| 09:21.54 | ascoli | no? thanks ! |
| 09:21.59 | ascoli | bye |
| 09:22.04 | MrBlowtatoes | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:22.09 | int21h | how |
| 09:22.11 | int21h | Bus 004 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 09:22.11 | int21h | Bus 004 Device 002: ID 0ea0:2168 Ours Technology, Inc. Transcend JetFlash 2.0 / Astone USB Drive |
| 09:22.11 | int21h | Bus 003 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 09:22.11 | int21h | Bus 002 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
| 09:22.11 | int21h | Bus 001 Device 001: ID 0000:0000 |
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| 09:22.18 | Shadda | ++++how to be incredibly annoying?+++ |
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| 09:22.48 | MrBlowtatoes | lsusb |
| 09:22.50 | idis | bobslaede: then your problem is in ppd file then ;) |
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| 09:23.00 | MrBlowtatoes | er |
| 09:23.12 | bobslaede | idis: hehe |
| 09:23.14 | MrBlowtatoes | there is a command that shows the mount point for all those devices |
| 09:23.23 | MrBlowtatoes | i forogt what it is |
| 09:23.28 | bobslaede | idis: any idea on how to find the correct device name then? |
| 09:23.48 | idis | bobslaede: which? that of lsusb? |
| 09:24.11 | snail | bobslaede: usb should do auto-detect. unplug and replug your printer and look for ids and hints in dmesg |
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| 09:24.36 | MrBlowtatoes | bwt, i was talking to int |
| 09:24.49 | bobslaede | idis: apparently, i guess... |
| 09:24.53 | Flosoft | where can I find a sources.list for Debian Sarge? |
| 09:25.01 | MrBlowtatoes | etc/apt |
| 09:25.03 | Flosoft | so that I can upgrade my woody |
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| 09:25.10 | Flosoft | well got that |
| 09:25.12 | idis | bobslaede: there shouldn't be a problem, lsusb strings output are from /usr/share/usb.ids |
| 09:25.14 | blondie | run apt-setup |
| 09:25.15 | lixus | hello: how do I get rid of files that belong to deinsalled packages. e.g. i did "apt-get remove nvi" but there is still a /etc/init.d/nviboot |
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| 09:25.31 | azeem | lixus: add --purge |
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| 09:25.41 | azeem | or do dpkg -P nvi now |
| 09:25.50 | bobslaede | idis: i dont have an /usr/share/usb.ids |
| 09:26.09 | idis | bobslaede: now all you know for sure is the ID of your printer to match that of older printers |
| 09:26.19 | loxley_ | Flosoft: if you want to upgrade woody do dist-upgrade |
| 09:26.37 | Flosoft | yes ... but I had the old sources.list |
| 09:26.44 | Flosoft | so he didn't have any new packages |
| 09:26.45 | loxley_ | Flosoft: doesnt matter |
| 09:26.51 | bobslaede | idis: i dont get that |
| 09:27.02 | lixus | azeem, thanks. |
| 09:27.19 | idis | bobslaede: sorry, man page is wrong, what i mean is the device only output the hexa values, the rest is from a file |
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| 09:29.00 | valdyn | !woody->sarge |
| 09:29.06 | valdyn | dpkg, woody->sarge |
| 09:29.15 | valdyn | dpkg: woody->sarge |
| 09:29.16 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 09:29.18 | idis | bobslaede: /var/lib/usbutils/usb.ids that is |
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| 09:29.55 | loxley_ | valdyn: thats strange, i never did that.. but on the other hand i had "stable" in my sources |
| 09:30.19 | bobslaede | idis: my exact printer isnt there |
| 09:30.26 | loxley_ | valdyn: or i mean, it got clearly now :) |
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| 09:30.37 | bobslaede | idis: just "Stylus Printer" |
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| 09:31.07 | idis | bobslaede: that's what I meant, the ID conflicts between stylus printer and yours |
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| 09:31.36 | bobslaede | idis: ohh.. thats not good |
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| 09:31.57 | bobslaede | idis: so my computer, for some reason, messed that up yesterday... cool... |
| 09:31.58 | idis | bobslaede: that's not a problem, only at epson which are too lazy to change ID for different printers |
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| 09:32.28 | idis | bobslaede: nothing is done with that info from lsusb string |
| 09:32.36 | bobslaede | idis: ok, so, if i turn of one printer, the other should work? |
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| 09:33.07 | idis | bobslaede: I don't think so... |
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| 09:33.12 | bobslaede | ok |
| 09:33.24 | idis | bobslaede: do both have the same ppd files |
| 09:33.30 | bobslaede | no |
| 09:33.32 | ideas1 | anyone use iscsi on debian? |
| 09:33.45 | idis | bobslaede: then that is why one works and the other doesn't? |
| 09:34.50 | bobslaede | idis: so i need to get a hold of a ppd that works... |
| 09:34.56 | bobslaede | but thats the problem |
| 09:35.09 | bobslaede | i havent changed anything since yesterday when it worked |
| 09:35.36 | bobslaede | an, i can use a different ppd, and itl print, but not perfect |
| 09:35.54 | idis | bobslaede: sorry have to go... |
| 09:36.05 | bobslaede | thanks anyways :) |
| 09:36.16 | sep | ideas1, /msg dpkg anyone |
| 09:36.36 | ideas1 | sep:?? |
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| 09:38.59 | sep | ideas1, my point was that asking that question wont give you any answers. so you shoudnt sit there thinking we are all arrogant bastards (probably quite correctly) |
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| 09:39.55 | sep | ideas1, ofcouse someone uses iscsi, but it's unlikely they are here, or even not idle at the moment, and if they did they might not answer that Questions, ask a real question instead. |
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| 09:41.06 | torc | what is the default size of ext3 journal? is it a good idea to make it bigger for a volume with some critical data? |
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| 09:41.43 | ideas1 | lol im trying to get a san going at work, ive read on iscsi protocol and it maybe what i need. (http://www.ardistech.com/iscsi/) ,but i want to make sure this is what i need... I need something to hold 1tb to 3 tb in a single volume. |
| 09:42.36 | ideas1 | LVM of some sort |
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| 09:49.44 | dpupp | could someone point me to a good how-to on mounting a usb drive? |
| 09:50.20 | jm_ | man mount? |
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| 09:51.06 | jm_ | there's always usbmount for those that can live with udev |
| 09:51.40 | dpupp | will try man mount. sorry, i guess i should have tried the manual first. |
| 09:51.54 | lixus | azeem, about that --purge and -P switches: is there a easy way to clean up my system from stale files ? |
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| 09:52.42 | valdyn | jm_: usbmount needs udev? |
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| 09:53.02 | liran_ | hey valdyn |
| 09:53.08 | jm_ | valdyn: yup |
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| 09:53.26 | jm_ | dpup;it's not any different, you just need to know the right device |
| 09:53.28 | jm_ | gah |
| 09:53.34 | valdyn | jm_: hmm, wasnt there a script / tool that just parses dmesg ? |
| 09:53.53 | liran_ | valdyn, i found what i was looking for regarding the virtual desktop i was asking for a week ago |
| 09:53.53 | jm_ | valdyn: could be, I rely either on autofs or hotplug to mount it for me |
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| 09:54.23 | valdyn | liran_: what solved it? |
| 09:55.31 | liran_ | valdyn, an addition of "Virtual 1800 1600" to xorg.conf |
| 09:55.36 | liran_ | valdyn, have you tried it? |
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| 09:55.56 | valdyn | liran_: probably years ago, i dont really want that |
| 09:56.05 | liran_ | valdyn, heh ok ;) |
| 09:56.15 | azeem | liran_: well, the idea is to keep the configuration files around, should you ever decide to install the package again |
| 09:56.20 | azeem | they don't take up much space |
| 09:56.25 | azeem | eh |
| 09:56.30 | azeem | s/liran_/lixus/ |
| 09:56.39 | liran_ | what package? |
| 09:56.44 | liran_ | ahh ok heh |
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| 09:57.14 | fpitt_ | Hi2all |
| 09:57.18 | azeem | lixus: I guess you can go through dpkg -l and see all the removed ones, and run dpkg -P on them, but I doubt this is very useful |
| 09:57.52 | lixus | azeem, yes, that was what i thougt of as well |
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| 09:58.52 | lixus | but if you ask me i do not see any reason why nvi keeps /etc/init.d/nviboot and even keeps the rc.2 links |
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| 09:59.24 | valdyn | lixus: did you read what that file does? |
| 10:00.00 | lixus | no, not really. it restores interuppted nvi sessions or something. but now it is gone |
| 10:00.11 | lixus | out of sight out of mind ;-) |
| 10:00.32 | valdyn | lixus: /etc/init.d/ scripts are config files, though the symlinks in /etc/rcX.d/ are not |
| 10:00.39 | azeem | !seen jk_work |
| 10:00.39 | dpkg | jk_work <~jk@persaunet.uninett.no> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 388d 20h 43m 54s ago, saying: 'http://www.marlow.dk/site.php/tech/madwifi ?'. |
| 10:01.04 | valdyn | lixus: ..which is why the script should stay upon removal, but the symlinks should not |
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| 10:06.21 | thiz | iugu |
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| 10:09.20 | Luftzig | how do I reconfigure X? |
| 10:10.38 | loxley_ | !drxx |
| 10:10.38 | dpkg | drxx is, like, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 10:15.41 | Azar | this is so strange, the installation I am making on this new PC shows up new menus I never seen on my old PC |
| 10:15.42 | thoron | Is AMD64 ports stable for production use? |
| 10:16.05 | Azar | like Enforce port selection? this is so new to me, same CD other menus |
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| 10:17.46 | blondie | ports? what is this, freebsd |
| 10:17.56 | bob2 | thoron: yes |
| 10:17.56 | blondie | or is that gentoo |
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| 10:18.44 | botsy | hi all |
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| 10:20.15 | pwned | when I update glibc, some programs which use my non-classic locale give me warnings. Do I have to run a program to update or set something ? |
| 10:21.11 | bob2 | maybe run localgen and see if it fixes it? |
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| 10:21.50 | Azar | how can I find what CPU I have what is the command? |
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| 10:22.48 | quitte | Azar: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 10:23.39 | Azar | quitte, it does not list the cpu model, just memory size |
| 10:24.07 | Azar | hmm I will reboot I will see it there |
| 10:24.08 | bob2 | model name : Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 1200MHz |
| 10:24.10 | bob2 | wfm |
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| 10:25.12 | pingouin | Azar: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 10:25.21 | Azar | ah thanks |
| 10:26.43 | pingouin | Azar: quitte has already gave it to u : [11:23] < quitte>: Azar: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 10:26.48 | quitte | must be one of those commands that randomly give unexpected output |
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| 10:27.23 | quittt | quitte, change the nicK! |
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| 10:28.27 | pingouin | !nick war |
| 10:28.49 | quitte | i#ve put him on my ignore list |
| 10:29.18 | pingouin | change for join ;) |
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| 10:29.31 | pingouin | any join in the place ? |
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| 10:31.56 | Rhamphoryncus | So the upgrade of my other box (which I've been putting off for a while, wonder why..) failed because of udev. After playing for a bit I found a set of packages (including a new kernel) that it would install. Did that, rebooted, found out it *hadn't* full installed the kernel and it wasn't in the grub menu (no initrd file either). X simultaneously broke, and I can't get apt to fully install the kernel. The box is essentially augered |
| 10:31.57 | Rhamphoryncus | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:32.46 | jm_ | purge it, then boot into it with some rescue medium and re-create device files if needed |
| 10:32.49 | bobslaede | idis, you there |
| 10:33.12 | Rhamphoryncus | hrm. Worth a try I suppose |
| 10:33.18 | Azar | my first LI screen of death, is rescue root ="/devhda2" -noinitrd correct for the fix? |
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| 10:34.02 | Azar | I got a Kernel Panic |
| 10:34.19 | thoron | emu-system-x86_64 -user-net -hda Debian-AMD64.disk -cdrom debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst.iso -boot d |
| 10:34.26 | thoron | qemu is so great |
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| 10:37.52 | Azar | Kernel Panic anyone? |
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| 10:38.56 | quitte | Azar: let me guess: rootfs not found? |
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| 10:39.18 | Azar | maybe I just rebooted and got the classic LI |
| 10:39.22 | Azar | ok fixed it |
| 10:39.25 | Azar | :) thanks |
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| 10:40.47 | thoron | Ok Debian AMD64 crashed on qemu. |
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| 10:41.56 | memic | ping #debian |
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| 10:45.21 | Tidus | is there anyway to convert debian from mbox to maildir storage for its local mail system? |
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| 10:48.50 | sep | tidus : http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim4_courier/exim4.html read point 2.3 |
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| 10:50.06 | sobersabre | guys, I am trying to make synce to sync with an ipaq. |
| 10:50.20 | Tidus | sep: please note that i'm using sendmail instead of exim4 |
| 10:50.26 | Tidus | at the moment anyway |
| 10:50.30 | Tidus | i'm not against changing it |
| 10:50.48 | sobersabre | i see that synce the latest version with the latest plugs - like synce-trayicon etc.are not avail for debian ( i am on testin ) |
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| 10:51.37 | fireba11 | Tidus: of course |
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| 10:52.00 | Rhamphoryncus | jm_: thanks, that seemed to have worked. I was actually able to reinstall udev before rebooting, so I don't think there were any missing device files |
| 10:52.03 | fireba11 | Tidus: what pop/imap services are you using ? |
| 10:52.12 | Azar | I need to pick a kernel 2.6.8 image for an AMD sempron 2800+ that would be like 2.6.8-2k7-smp ? |
| 10:52.14 | Tidus | fireba11: i'm using the dovecot imap4 server |
| 10:52.26 | fireba11 | Tidus: good chois i'd say :-) |
| 10:52.29 | fireba11 | choice |
| 10:52.35 | Tidus | fireba11: lol |
| 10:52.40 | Tidus | fireba11: and why do you say that? |
| 10:52.46 | Azar | what is smp standing for? |
| 10:52.59 | fireba11 | Tidus: for one i will change to dovecot myself soon |
| 10:53.00 | Tidus | Azar: Symmetric Multi-Processing |
| 10:53.08 | saloxin | Azar: symmetric multi processing - aka 2 or more cpu's |
| 10:53.19 | fireba11 | Tidus: also i don't like the uw-imap that is default right now |
| 10:53.35 | Tidus | fireba11: dovecot does support maildir as default... you have to tweak it to use mbox |
| 10:53.39 | Azar | ah thank you guys |
| 10:53.49 | botsy | have you got system_auth file in /etc/pam.d ? |
| 10:53.55 | Azar | the k7 is generic for all AMD be it duron, sempron, athlon? |
| 10:54.00 | Tidus | Azar: yep |
| 10:54.03 | fireba11 | Tidus: yes .. not hard though .. only thing you need to worry is setting the proper locking mechanism |
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| 10:54.10 | Azar | thanks guys |
| 10:54.14 | Tidus | fireba11: i'm gonna switch it to maildir anyway |
| 10:54.16 | amorel | g'day |
| 10:54.36 | fireba11 | Tidus: yes .. i want to do that too .. imap with 500+ messages is no good with mbox |
| 10:54.45 | amorel | how do I force a specific ethernet card to be assigned to eth0 in debian? |
| 10:54.58 | petemc | amorel: ifrename |
| 10:55.04 | fireba11 | amorel: don't know if there even is a way .. why you want to do that ? |
| 10:55.11 | amorel | right |
| 10:55.20 | Tidus | fireba11: sep gave me a good linky |
| 10:55.32 | amorel | well at tone boot eth0 is the pci card next boot eth0 is the motherboard's ethernet |
| 10:55.32 | Tidus | http://www.trekweb.com/~jasonb/articles/exim4_courier/exim4.html <-- read point 2.3 |
| 10:55.45 | amorel | i'll try ifrename thanks |
| 10:56.34 | fireba11 | Tidus: yes .. bookmarked it already .. am already using exim4 but want to throw ipop and uw-imap out of the window, merge to maildir and use dovecot ... :-D |
| 10:56.53 | Tidus | fireba11: lol |
| 10:57.05 | Tidus | fireba11: i'm fixing to throw the ancient sendmail out the window. |
| 10:57.09 | shomodj | join #perl |
| 10:57.12 | Tidus | i still need fetchmail though |
| 10:57.13 | botsy | system_auth it's the older name for the file common_auth no ? ?? |
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| 10:57.26 | fireba11 | hm .. never would use revoke to restart a deamon .. ^^ anyway, it looks usefull |
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| 11:01.49 | Tidus | fireba11: oh, i managed to SIGQUIT aptitude the other day |
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| 11:02.02 | Tidus | it said "Ouch! Got SIGQUIT. Quitting..." |
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| 11:03.10 | LordCrimson | Hi, I am told that 2.6 kernel is considered by debian society as slightly unreliable. Is it true? |
| 11:03.29 | Tidus | LordCrimson: a 2.6 series kernel is the default in Sarge, which is the stable release |
| 11:03.41 | caphuso | Tidus: no, it's not |
| 11:03.42 | LordCrimson | 2.6.* kernels, I mean |
| 11:04.07 | Tidus | caphuso: i thought 2.6.8 was the default installed in sarge |
| 11:04.13 | blondie | no, it's 2.4.something |
| 11:04.52 | Tidus | meh, not gonna argue. |
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| 11:04.58 | LordCrimson | I just installed sarge with 2.4.27 (smth like) |
| 11:05.16 | Tidus | my last sarge install ended with 2.6.7 (while it was still testing) |
| 11:06.00 | Tidus | now i have etch running on that box, and it's running 2.6.12 |
| 11:06.12 | _NiC | 2.6.8 is the default 2.6-kernel for sarge |
| 11:06.31 | fireba11 | Tidus: i wanted to say i always use /etc/init.d/soemthing restart |
| 11:06.49 | LordCrimson | OK. 2.4. :)))) thnx |
| 11:07.08 | Tidus | fireba11: so do i |
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| 11:14.43 | l4vim | hello, I'm trying to install debian on ibm netfinity 5500 - then I have information that was no hard-drive detected |
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| 11:14.55 | l4vim | there is adaptec raid conftroler |
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| 11:15.52 | l4vim | when CD's kernel boots it shows something about adaptec controler |
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| 11:16.06 | LordCrimson | IMHO adaptec raid should be turned off |
| 11:16.07 | l4vim | there are information about it in /proc/scsi.... |
| 11:16.34 | l4vim | LordCrimson : what do you mean "turned off" ? |
| 11:16.45 | LordCrimson | i had problems with it - adaptec gives only compiled drivers for red hat kernels |
| 11:16.45 | l4vim | in it's bios ? |
| 11:16.50 | l4vim | yes |
| 11:16.51 | quitte | l4vim: maybe you have to setup raid volumes first in the bios or with some utility? |
| 11:16.53 | l4vim | I sow that |
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| 11:17.21 | l4vim | I have 5 SCSI discs maked to raid5 on it |
| 11:17.21 | LordCrimson | yes in bios - no raid |
| 11:17.38 | LordCrimson | otherwise you will have amny problems with it |
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| 11:18.06 | l4vim | so I should do NOT use that raid completly ? |
| 11:18.19 | LordCrimson | on my box - i confgiured software raid |
| 11:18.22 | l4vim | or only make some options disable on bios ? |
| 11:18.25 | l4vim | ahh |
| 11:18.30 | l4vim | ok, now I understand |
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| 11:18.45 | l4vim | the problem is that I have to use it - this is why we got that box |
| 11:18.55 | l4vim | ;/ |
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| 11:21.32 | LordCrimson | i saw the article how to connect red hat kernel to debian in google |
| 11:21.37 | LordCrimson | this is the only way |
| 11:21.44 | LordCrimson | as far as i know |
| 11:21.46 | l4vim | beautifull |
| 11:22.00 | ircdevil | i need java crap to run batik. which java should i get? |
| 11:22.08 | ircdevil | 1.1 is too old |
| 11:22.14 | quitte | LordCrimson: i don't believe that |
| 11:22.25 | quitte | l4vim: what controller is it exactly? |
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| 11:24.00 | l4vim | Adaptec AIC7895 |
| 11:24.15 | ircdevil | does one want java jre or jdk? |
| 11:24.29 | l4vim | i'm googlin with it... |
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| 11:25.05 | amorel | petemc: ifrename does the job thanks |
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| 11:25.15 | jm_ | ircdevil: it depends on what you want to do with it |
| 11:25.30 | ircdevil | jm_ execute batik-rasterizer |
| 11:25.41 | jm_ | ircdevil: JRE shall do if you don't need to compile it |
| 11:25.48 | ircdevil | ty |
| 11:25.54 | l4vim | quitte: i'm googlin with it... |
| 11:26.06 | l4vim | quitte: Adaptec AIC7895 |
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| 11:26.32 | finger | does anybody have any ideea why a system starts |
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| 11:26.34 | finger | ops |
| 11:26.37 | finger | nod done :D |
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| 11:27.07 | Azar | another successfull Debian install \0/ ! |
| 11:27.33 | Azar | keeping in mind I had no idea about hardware info, Debian got it all right |
| 11:27.35 | MeowChow | hey... anyone know how to get the full pathname of a file inside a shell script? |
| 11:27.36 | finger | does anybody have any ideea why a system's load starts to rise when I have more than 300-400 rules in iptables. I tried the same thing with setting 2048 static arps and same thing.... the system's load rises to 5.00-9.00 |
| 11:27.39 | l4vim | http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers?focusedCommentId=7388&decorator=printable |
| 11:27.55 | Tidus | oh w00t i got maildirs working |
| 11:28.18 | finger | MeowChow: pwd |
| 11:28.31 | quitte | l4vim: check out the raidutils package |
| 11:28.36 | MeowChow | finger: so i have to cwd to the file's dir, pwd, and cwd back out? |
| 11:28.45 | MeowChow | there's no more direct way? |
| 11:28.49 | LordCrimson | http://minus-9.com/index.php?title=installing_debian_3_0_woody_with_adaptec&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 However, I could mistake about that adapter... |
| 11:29.10 | LordCrimson | but chances are minimal.. |
| 11:29.18 | quitte | if i where you i'd put a ide disk in with some linux to experiment with the controller or take the controller and 3 disks in a already working box |
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| 11:30.59 | l4vim | quitte: I don't know it'll help because I have problem with install not with manage |
| 11:31.31 | xiaogil | what are the wget arguments (or even another command if exists) to get recursively all the .tif images of an http address ? |
| 11:31.51 | quitte | can you put a ide disk to boot from in that server? |
| 11:32.09 | finger | does anybody have any ideea why a system's load starts to rise when I have more than 300-400 rules in iptables. I tried the same thing with setting 2048 static arps and same thing.... the system's load rises to 5.00-9.00 |
| 11:32.29 | l4vim | quitte: i don't know now but if I have to - I'll |
| 11:32.34 | quitte | l4vim: then you could figure out by ,management tools how to access the volume |
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| 11:33.06 | quitte | l4vim: good luck. i'd like to play with hw raid myself |
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| 11:34.12 | l4vim | quitte : thank you, the same to you |
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| 11:35.48 | LordCrimson | Adaptec "rockz"... It tells one more time that dell is pro-microsoft. |
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| 11:35.54 | crashbg[work] | guys, i can't play mp3s with xmms then i try to load them via URL |
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| 11:36.54 | tonix | hy guys, what is the best way to have a coulored terminal in the bash shell instead of having white characters? thanks a lot |
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| 11:37.17 | crashbg[work] | .bashrc |
| 11:37.24 | tonix | i'd like writing with orange fonts in bash, not in X! |
| 11:37.30 | crashbg[work] | there you will find the lines needet to be uncommented |
| 11:37.30 | bobslaede | is there a precompiled esp-ghostscript thing? |
| 11:37.35 | bobslaede | i cant find any |
| 11:37.52 | bobslaede | and aparently i cant compile mine |
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| 11:37.57 | bobslaede | with support for my printer |
| 11:37.57 | MeowChow | finger: re the load issue, is the system routing alot of traffic? |
| 11:37.57 | bobslaede | useless ghostscript |
| 11:38.15 | crashbg[work] | bobslaede: use cups and ppd |
| 11:38.17 | crashbg[work] | ... |
| 11:38.26 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: i am using it |
| 11:38.41 | crashbg[work] | what's your printer |
| 11:38.42 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: but for some reason it stopped supporting my printer yesterday, now i need to recompile it |
| 11:38.49 | bobslaede | Epson AcuLaser C1900 |
| 11:38.57 | quitte | tonix: cut the green wire to your monitor |
| 11:39.03 | crashbg[work] | there is always a reason :) |
| 11:39.04 | bobslaede | alc1900 is the device, but its not there anymore |
| 11:39.08 | quitte | tonix: sorry blue |
| 11:39.12 | petemc | finger: im using around 1000 rules, routing a lot of traffic and doing other stuff, my load rarely goes > 1 |
| 11:39.19 | crashbg[work] | bobslaede: did you try to install it again/ |
| 11:39.28 | tonix | quitte: very kind of you! |
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| 11:39.48 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: i am doing that, thats the problem |
| 11:39.49 | Vivaldi | hello |
| 11:39.53 | Vivaldi | i have a problem. |
| 11:39.55 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: it wont compile |
| 11:39.58 | tonix | joking a part, is there a simple way? |
| 11:40.07 | crashbg[work] | why do you want to compile it |
| 11:40.13 | bobslaede | oh... damnit... |
| 11:40.16 | crashbg[work] | you are using debian |
| 11:40.28 | quitte | tonix: if you could live with red try setterm -foreground red |
| 11:40.33 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: becourse i need support for the alc1900 device |
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| 11:41.15 | Vivaldi | I made a dire with a space characters. If I do "pwd" in the shell I can see the two words of directory name, while if I do $PWD=$(shell pwd) in a Makefile, the var PWD only contains the first word of the direcotry name. Do you know how to fix this? |
| 11:41.46 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: i need eplaser-3.1.3-705.tgz, i have it, but its the freebsd version, dont know if it matters... cant find it otherwise |
| 11:42.04 | bobslaede | and compile it into the espgs source |
| 11:42.30 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-AcuLaser_C1900 |
| 11:42.32 | crashbg[work] | bobslaede: does you printer support postcript drivers? |
| 11:42.35 | bobslaede | usercomments #2 |
| 11:42.38 | bobslaede | yes |
| 11:42.45 | tonix | quitte: thanks a lot! |
| 11:42.55 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: but for some reason the alc1900 device isnt there anymore, and now i cant print |
| 11:43.00 | crashbg[work] | well just put your epson's windows driver cd |
| 11:43.16 | crashbg[work] | take the ppd driver for nt4.0 or 2000 or xp |
| 11:43.19 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: i have the ppd files and all |
| 11:43.22 | crashbg[work] | and use it with samba |
| 11:43.24 | crashbg[work] | ups |
| 11:43.26 | crashbg[work] | :) cups |
| 11:43.35 | bobslaede | but i need the alc1900 device for ghostscript |
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| 11:44.09 | crashbg[work] | well ok... i can't understand you fully because i installed a lot of HP printer with no problems |
| 11:44.12 | bobslaede | its not there if i go 'gs -h' |
| 11:44.20 | crashbg[work] | and i used only the ppd drivers |
| 11:44.30 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: its really weird, cus it worked yesterday |
| 11:45.05 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: and the only reason for it not to work today, for what i can see, is that the device mensioned in the pdd file, and errored out in the error_log isnt there |
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| 11:45.36 | bobslaede | the sDEVICE in the ppd file |
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| 11:46.19 | crashbg[work] | well bobslaede, i suggest to find for a DEB file for your driver and install it from there |
| 11:46.44 | crashbg[work] | i've never used gs... |
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| 11:46.47 | bobslaede | crashbg[work]: i want to do that, but i cant find it :( |
| 11:46.48 | tarzeau | !qotd |
| 11:46.48 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me <qotd0> to get a random one, or <literal qotd0> to see which numbers are used already, or <literal qotdx> to see which numbers have been voted "replaceable". |
| 11:46.52 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 11:46.52 | dpkg | from memory, qotd72 is <try_catch_this> for the record I dont care what you use, to me I get things done faster with guis. |
| 11:47.07 | mediaman | mediaman: Hi, is it possible to load automatically a gnome theme when you using a kde-session? I mean only for the gnome programms?? |
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| 11:49.43 | xiaogil | Is there a command that takes an image A and a group of images, and tells which image of the group is the closest to image A ? |
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| 11:50.25 | tarzeau | xiaogil: findimagedupes - Finds visually similar or duplicate images |
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| 11:51.41 | tonix | quitte: setterm seems to work, but i use vi, for instance, i lost my setterm configuration and i return to white fonts! |
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| 11:51.45 | gypsymauro | hello |
| 11:52.07 | tonix | quitte: is there a way to force alway the red fonts? |
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| 11:52.24 | k1ckn1ck | morning all |
| 11:52.31 | Vibes | Hi all; Which tool should I use to put a label on a partition plz? It's look like fdisk and cfdisk don't... |
| 11:52.43 | tarzeau | Vibes: what partition is that? |
| 11:53.02 | gypsymauro | there is a way with packages.debian.org to get automatically a package? something like wget -c http://packages.debian.org/stable/editors/abiword.../download-it-now ?:) |
| 11:53.10 | Vibes | tarzeau, ext3, not system |
| 11:53.25 | k1ckn1ck | i have just installed and setup debian with exim4 i want to install dovecot as suggested by someone yesterday to apparently be good, i want to use the pop3 mainly. What exactly shud i apt-get |
| 11:53.48 | zork7_ | apt-get install dovecot? |
| 11:53.50 | tarzeau | gypsymauro: err, why not apt-get -d pkg? |
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| 11:53.58 | tarzeau | Vibes: but why? |
| 11:54.31 | mediaman | Hi, is it possible to load automatically a gnome theme when you using a kde-session? I mean only for the gnome programms? Is this a stupid question? |
| 11:54.49 | tarzeau | Vibes: tune2fs/dumpe2fs? |
| 11:55.03 | Vibes | tarzeau, to know what patition I work on when I use this drive on another computer |
| 11:55.04 | tarzeau | mediaman: stop repeating. #debian-kde or irc.gnome.org #gnome |
| 11:55.05 | gypsymauro | tarzeau: I'm building a script to download some version of packages..and I need to refer to them by wget and the name of the version of debian (stable/testing) so that's the best way to do, but I dunno if I could do |
| 11:55.20 | Gnea | mediaman: it's stupid to repeat. |
| 11:55.24 | Gnea | !repeat |
| 11:55.24 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 11:55.30 | tarzeau | gypsymauro: use apt-get -d |
| 11:55.48 | Gnea | mediaman: just config it with gnome then restart |
| 11:56.08 | zork7_ | k1ckn1ck , apt-get install dovecot-pop3d |
| 11:57.23 | Vibes | tarzeau, Thanks, tune2fs -L was what I was looking for :) |
| 11:57.55 | gypsymauro | tarzeau: I'm not sure it will be the right way..I'll analyze better:) tank you |
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| 11:58.13 | mediaman | Gnea: thanks, I did this. And It works fine when I start gnome from gdm but when I use kde it's not loaded |
| 11:58.35 | Gnea | mediaman: use one or the other then |
| 11:58.53 | Gnea | or don't use either :) |
| 11:59.11 | Gnea | or just ignore it and let it be |
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| 11:59.37 | tarzeau | oh please don't tank me, unless its cola |
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| 12:00.25 | mediaman | Gnea: I think, you don't get my question. My question is: Is it possible to run gnome-programs automatically with a gnome-theme under kde??? |
| 12:00.46 | tarzeau | mediaman: he doesn't know |
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| 12:01.43 | mediaman | tarzeau: probably nobody knows, at least google doesn't know |
| 12:02.00 | tarzeau | mediaman: nice, when nobody knows. why do you ask? |
| 12:02.50 | linescanner | guys I am looking at moving to debian as a platform for some mail servers. Where is the smart money today as regards IMAP. I have been using Cyrus but am open to suggestions |
| 12:03.35 | zork7_ | linescanner , dovecot but cyrus is nice also |
| 12:03.36 | tarzeau | linescanner: imap means you make the backups... |
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| 12:03.38 | Gnea | mediaman: honestly, i don't know for sure - my guess is no, since it isn't a gnome desktop environment that's backing it up |
| 12:03.48 | mediaman | tarzeau: I thought someone should know. I like style and themes and thought some other debian users would do as well |
| 12:03.58 | Gnea | mediaman: i don't use gnome or kde, since they use more resources than is necessary |
| 12:04.16 | Gnea | mediaman: i like style and themes, that's why i use enlightenment |
| 12:04.23 | linescanner | zork7_: got any experience with courier ? |
| 12:04.27 | tarzeau | mediaman: when you ask once, and get no answers, that means nobody knows. ask again in 8 hours (not earlier) |
| 12:04.48 | linescanner | tarzeau: I know but IMAP is what we need |
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| 12:05.36 | zork7_ | linescanner: not really |
| 12:05.39 | Gnea | linescanner: are you aware that dovecot supports imap as well? |
| 12:06.00 | zumbi | !hi, do you know how could i extract binaries from an RPM, for deb i know that is an tar.gz inside ar pkg, but RPM, how could i extract it ? |
| 12:06.09 | mediaman | Gnea, tarzeau: thanks anyway. sorry for messing up your ordanary debian life |
| 12:06.29 | Gnea | zumbi: you are misinformed. |
| 12:06.32 | tarzeau | ./nvidia-installer: unrecognized option `--opengl-headers' --opengl-headers hmm no typo. this software sucks |
| 12:06.43 | Gnea | mediaman: you messed something up? |
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| 12:07.19 | Gnea | zumbi: .deb files are NOT .tar.gz's |
| 12:07.23 | zumbi | Gnea: could you explain it ? what am i wrong ? |
| 12:07.45 | Gnea | zumbi: .deb files are .deb files, it is nothing else |
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| 12:07.54 | zumbi | Gnea: ar x <file.deb> && tar xzf data.tar.gz |
| 12:07.58 | mediaman | bye bye. I will ask again tomorrow |
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| 12:09.55 | Gnea | zumbi: i stand corrected. use alien for rpm files |
| 12:10.00 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:10.27 | tarzeau | cool foobillard runs again. FAST. but supertux from svn doesn't |
| 12:11.17 | linescanner | Gnea: yes ta |
| 12:11.58 | Reilithion | Yahoo is beginning to piss me off, so I'm looking for a new e-mail provider. Is there one that a lot of Debian users use/recommend (preferrably POP3 and/or free)? |
| 12:12.09 | petemc | Reilithion: google |
| 12:12.11 | SlayerXP | Reilithion: gmail |
| 12:12.13 | tarzeau | Reilithion: want hushmail or gmail? |
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| 12:12.41 | Gnea | Reilithion: what's wrong with yahoo mail? |
| 12:13.06 | Reilithion | Gnea, I really don't like their web interface. |
| 12:13.13 | Gnea | oh |
| 12:13.16 | Reilithion | it's crufty |
| 12:13.17 | Gnea | so what's the problem? |
| 12:14.14 | Gnea | Reilithion: why don't you use thunderbird with it then? |
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| 12:14.37 | Reilithion | eh? didn't know thunderbird would play nice with yahoo |
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| 12:15.08 | Gnea | Reilithion: fetchyahoo |
| 12:15.16 | Reilithion | oh. that. |
| 12:15.25 | biolator | hi |
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| 12:15.35 | M_Cheevy | anyone have experience with dmraid? I have quite a few questions to ask about it.... |
| 12:16.00 | Reilithion | petemc, SlayerXP, tarzeau, tell me more about gmail & hushmail |
| 12:16.07 | k1ckn1ck | any fast ways to test that dovecot is working? |
| 12:16.09 | tarzeau | Reilithion: www.gmail.com www.hushmail.com |
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| 12:16.26 | Gnea | k1ckn1ck: log into it |
| 12:16.37 | k1ckn1ck | k |
| 12:16.46 | Reilithion | tarzeau, I'll check those out, but I suspect they won't tell me how nice they play with linux |
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| 12:17.01 | petemc | k1ckn1ck: telnet host 143 ; a login username password |
| 12:17.01 | pwned | bob2, where is this localgen ? |
| 12:17.02 | tarzeau | Reilithion: will work fine |
| 12:17.26 | petemc | Reilithion: collecting mail via pop3 is the same no matter what the os |
| 12:17.32 | Gnea | Reilithion: they work just fine, actually |
| 12:17.41 | k1ckn1ck | comes up with connection refused :( |
| 12:17.56 | Gnea | k1ckn1ck: there ya go - try /var/log/ |
| 12:18.12 | Reilithion | ok, thanks. I'll read. |
| 12:18.38 | k1ckn1ck | there is no dovecot logfile |
| 12:18.53 | Gnea | not specifically |
| 12:18.56 | petemc | k1ckn1ck: dont be silly |
| 12:19.01 | Gnea | try daemon.log |
| 12:19.21 | petemc | it will log to syslog |
| 12:19.25 | petemc | by default |
| 12:19.57 | k1ckn1ck | no errors for last 20 minutes |
| 12:20.12 | k1ckn1ck | guess i havent started the dovecot service :P |
| 12:20.13 | Gnea | are you sure it started up? |
| 12:20.16 | Gnea | heh |
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| 12:20.22 | petemc | k1ckn1ck: you obviously havent read any documentation |
| 12:20.35 | k1ckn1ck | yes i have |
| 12:20.51 | petemc | k1ckn1ck: well, you havent understood/absorbed any of it |
| 12:20.51 | k1ckn1ck | i bin on dovecot.org and exim.org all morning |
| 12:20.51 | Arathorn | hi folks - does anyone understand what 'System's are in the context of apt? specifically, why I'd get a 'E: Unable to determine a suitable packaging system type' from libapt-pkg? |
| 12:21.22 | Arathorn | (not running apt on debian, frustratingly) |
| 12:21.23 | blondie | you bin? do you mean "have been"? |
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| 12:21.52 | petemc | correcting spelling/grammar on irc is a waste of time |
| 12:22.10 | Gnea | what a waste |
| 12:22.40 | Gnea | o/~ if i could save time in a bottle... o/~ |
| 12:22.58 | M_Cheevy | oh please... let's not go to the 70s |
| 12:23.06 | Gnea | impossible. |
| 12:23.07 | pwned | s/correcting spelling\/grammar on // |
| 12:23.09 | Gnea | it's the 00's |
| 12:23.35 | M_Cheevy | Gnea: jim croche? |
| 12:23.39 | Gnea | hehehe |
| 12:23.53 | Gnea | M_Cheevy: i know what you meant - i was being sarcastic |
| 12:23.53 | M_Cheevy | at least ya could have done some cat stevens |
| 12:24.03 | Reilithion | lol, pwned |
| 12:24.05 | petemc | pwned: grammar on grammar on irc? |
| 12:24.25 | Gnea | dude, only script kiddies say 'pwned' |
| 12:24.38 | petemc | unless its ironic, of course |
| 12:24.46 | Azar | question: I am installing alsa . I have kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 installed but alsa modules are only 2.4.27-2-k7 and I see it attempts to install as well kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7, will this replace my actual 2.6.8 kernel? |
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| 12:24.56 | Gnea | you skipped the 80's man |
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| 12:25.15 | crosvera | hi people |
| 12:25.16 | Reilithion | I was born in the 80's |
| 12:25.23 | crosvera | i have a question |
| 12:25.29 | Reilithion | !ask |
| 12:25.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:25.31 | blondie | Reilithion: you MUST be old! |
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| 12:25.36 | Gnea | úúú people: No such nick/channel |
| 12:25.38 | Azar | ... I asked |
| 12:25.41 | M_Cheevy | Gnea: you think I might have done it on purpose? |
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| 12:25.57 | zork7_ | blondie : i was born in 70's :) |
| 12:26.06 | crosvera | how i can install the "netinstall" if i hav a conection that use pppoeconf? |
| 12:26.07 | Gnea | Azar: uhm, alsa modules should be part of the kernel |
| 12:26.16 | blondie | zork7_ :) |
| 12:26.33 | Azar | Gnea strangely enough when I upgraded the kernel to 2.6.8, it did not came with alsa |
| 12:26.35 | Gnea | M_Cheevy: done what on purpose? typed on the keyboard just now? :) |
| 12:26.44 | M_Cheevy | Gnea: skipped the 80s |
| 12:26.57 | Gnea | M_Cheevy: oh, i mean petemc skipped the 80's |
| 12:27.04 | M_Cheevy | d'oh |
| 12:27.10 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:27.35 | crosvera | :S |
| 12:27.40 | Gnea | Azar: that's very weird... are you sure there wasn't a separate kernel-modules package for that? |
| 12:27.43 | FlopsyPete | how do I make a boot floppy to boot an existing Debian system? mkboot seems to require LILO but of-course I'm using GRUB |
| 12:28.01 | vega- | FlopsyPete: cp kernel /dev/fd0 :) |
| 12:28.12 | FlopsyPete | vega-: thanks |
| 12:28.22 | Azar | Gnea, no I just installed from scratch Debian, upgraded the kernel, installed X and nvidia everything went ok |
| 12:28.28 | vega- | not a very flexible bootdisk though.. |
| 12:28.30 | M_Cheevy | vega: okay... fun question... what if your kernel needs a initramfs? |
| 12:28.32 | crosvera | i want install the NETINSTALL but doesn't appear the pppoeconf for conf my inet |
| 12:28.33 | Gnea | crosvera: hrm, good question - have you tried to use it? |
| 12:28.37 | Azar | but modconf did not show me any snd modules strange enough |
| 12:28.45 | vega- | M_Cheevy: as i said, not a very flexible solution :) |
| 12:28.59 | M_Cheevy | vega: worth a shot to ask ;) |
| 12:29.01 | Gnea | Azar: what about alsaconf? |
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| 12:29.03 | Azar | well, I am installing now 2.4.27 back again |
| 12:29.08 | selfcontr0l | q: am i asking for trouble by installing WineCVS? i've never used wine, but have it installed and I'm in the process of running WineCVS.sh (per instructions from website) |
| 12:29.09 | Azar | not even alsaconf |
| 12:29.13 | vega- | remember last using it with slackware sometimes 10 years ago |
| 12:29.22 | M_Cheevy | I know there is some way to create chaining bootdisk/ramdisk combinations... |
| 12:29.24 | Gnea | Azar: FYI, 2.6 has better alsa support than 2.4 |
| 12:29.33 | Gnea | Azar: what soundcard do you have? |
| 12:29.39 | M_Cheevy | just don't know how.. mind you haven't even googled for it yet but since it came up.... |
| 12:30.05 | crosvera | :( |
| 12:30.13 | antgel | selfcontr0l: sias |
| 12:30.22 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: did you install from source or did you actually use some generated winecvs .debs? |
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| 12:30.32 | selfcontr0l | antgel: huh? |
| 12:30.35 | M_Cheevy | vega: sounds like you started around the same time I did.. Slack 1 |
| 12:30.41 | caphuso | vega-: and it doesn't work with 2.6 kernels anymore |
| 12:30.53 | Azar | Gnea, I know but strangely enough tonight's kernel upgrade to 2.6 did not come with alsa support |
| 12:31.00 | selfcontr0l | Gnea: it's a shell script that is supposed to download and install from cvs or something |
| 12:31.02 | Azar | I will have to redo the kernel again |
| 12:31.26 | antgel | !tell selfcontr0l about sias |
| 12:31.35 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: well that all depends then - do you already have any other wine packages installed? |
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| 12:31.43 | zimnyx | hello |
| 12:31.47 | selfcontr0l | antgel: heh nice. |
| 12:32.12 | zimnyx | where can i find what configure options were used when compiling some package>? |
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| 12:32.14 | M_Cheevy] | grrrr |
| 12:32.16 | selfcontr0l | Gnea: yeah i have the debian wine package installed, but never used it |
| 12:32.26 | antgel | zimnyx: debian package or your own compile? |
| 12:32.31 | vega- | M_Cheevy: don't remember if it was slack, but i do remember that the first kernel was 0.99 and it was something like 93/94 |
| 12:32.44 | zimnyx | antgel: debian |
| 12:32.45 | MCheevy | yeap.. same time I did... 0.99 |
| 12:32.45 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: then you should uninstall it along with any other libwine* packages along with it before installing the cvs. |
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| 12:33.04 | selfcontr0l | the whole point is i want to run Steam and HL2 / CS:S and i want it to run well, so this website has instructions for installing it |
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| 12:33.21 | vega- | caphuso: ok |
| 12:33.21 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: basically check the dependancies of the main wine package and remove anything wine-specific from that list (obviously keep libc6 around) |
| 12:33.23 | FlopsyPete | vega-: it just needs to get the system started, so that for another computer that doesn't have its GRUB MBR I can run GRUB on it |
| 12:33.57 | selfcontr0l | Gnea: sounds like a good idea...wish i had asked b4 i started the script...i may have to undo some stuff to do that now |
| 12:34.07 | antgel | !b4 |
| 12:34.08 | dpkg | try "before", moron. B4 I17 N34 G58 O69 .... BINGO! |
| 12:34.09 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: uhm, you'd be better off getting cedega then (they have debian binaries, but you have to pay - it's not much tho, about $5/month) |
| 12:34.29 | MCheevy | FlopsyPete: I just did a search for "Grub for Windows" and it seems there is one |
| 12:34.44 | vega- | FlopsyPete: how about booting with some debian cd or knoppix ? |
| 12:34.55 | vega- | and then going to a shell and fixing grub from there |
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| 12:34.58 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: but if you think the cvs will do it then by all means... |
| 12:34.59 | MCheevy | FlopsyPete: http://grub4dos.sourceforge.net/ |
| 12:35.08 | selfcontr0l | is this not the same thing as cedega? i keep seeing them in the same context |
| 12:35.12 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: just uninstall what's already installed |
| 12:35.15 | Azar | wow that is new to me: fresh new install and at reboot I get /dev/hda2 has gone 489 days without being checked |
| 12:35.22 | zimnyx | antgel: so? |
| 12:35.51 | antgel | zimnyx: it's in debian/rules in the source package |
| 12:35.59 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: no, wine is open source - cedega used to be wineX, which is a commercial, non-open source implementation of wine that has a much more focused set of extensions allowing windows programs, mostly games, to run properly in linux |
| 12:36.02 | zimnyx | antgel: thanks |
| 12:36.02 | MCheevy | Azar: probably measuring in microsoft minutes ;) |
| 12:36.06 | FlopsyPete | vega-: I thought Debian CD2 had such an option but it doesn't; the debian-installer option to go to a CLI claims its mounted the HDs at /target but it doesn't; I've tried various bootdisks such as tom's rtbt but they won't run the binary grub file |
| 12:36.17 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: so a lot of what cedega provides will *NEVER* show up in the base wine |
| 12:36.27 | FlopsyPete | MCheevy: whats this got to do with Windows? I'm cloning Debian systems, have copied the partitions but not the MBR |
| 12:36.46 | antgel | Azar: hmm. you sure you're looking at the right partition? |
| 12:36.53 | vega- | FlopsyPete: hmm, i'd try knoppix next |
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| 12:37.02 | MCheevy | Flopsy: sorry, misunderstood... you do realise this is a dos version and can probably be installed from a dos boot floppy |
| 12:37.08 | Gnea | anyway, i need sleep |
| 12:37.20 | FlopsyPete | MCheevy: I see, yeah. |
| 12:37.50 | MCheevy | So you could get it to load to the MBR using DOS then configure it for linux |
| 12:38.06 | FlopsyPete | if I do cp /vmlinuz /dev/fd0 I get the ersponse when booting 'Direct booting from floppy is no longer supported. Please use a boot loader program instead' |
| 12:38.28 | caphuso | FlopsyPete: it doesn't work with 2.6 kernels |
| 12:38.43 | FlopsyPete | I'll try Knoppix |
| 12:38.45 | Gnea | selfcontr0l: good luck with that - maybe cvs will play 'em alright |
| 12:39.08 | selfcontr0l | Gnea: ah..ok i got confused i thought winecvs was related to cedega... you were recommending cedega? |
| 12:39.11 | jm_ | it's trivial to create a FAT12 floppy with GRUB and kernel on it |
| 12:39.13 | MCheevy | Flopsy: I do believe there is a live CD version of gentoo that is only 70MB |
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| 12:39.31 | MCheevy | jm: who said anything about the kernel... he's just trying to get grub on the mbr |
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| 12:39.45 | FlopsyPete | I have a Knoppix D already. what I really should learn is how to use dd to also copy the MBR |
| 12:40.04 | MCheevy | Flopsy: I use it to setup my debian on a SATA raid 0 array |
| 12:40.18 | MCheevy | Flopsy: and have used it to get grub on the mbr |
| 12:40.25 | MCheevy | but it is 70mb |
| 12:40.29 | jm_ | MCheevy: read his statement again - "if I do cp /vmlinuz /dev/fd0", that somehow leads me to believe he needs kernel on whatever media he's using |
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| 12:40.57 | MCheevy | jm: that was from some earlier advice of a different way of getting the system to boot without anything on the mbr |
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| 12:41.11 | FlopsyPete | jm_: it'd be enough to just get the floppy disk boot the Debian already on the HDD. my vmlinuz command was doing what vega- recommended |
| 12:41.36 | jm_ | FlopsyPete: then put just GRUB on floppy, cat /lib/grub/i386-pc/stage? > /dev/fd0 |
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| 12:42.06 | FlopsyPete | jm: cool thanks |
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| 12:42.21 | Muffie | hello all |
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| 12:42.32 | MCheevy | hello Muffie |
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| 12:43.00 | Muffie | Im looking at this link, and still now I could not find which KDE version is there: 3.4 or 3.5... (http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/). Anyone knows how can I check that? |
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| 12:43.28 | vega- | Muffie: 3.4 |
| 12:43.41 | Muffie | vega-: , ok. But how can I conclude that? |
| 12:43.41 | antgel | !info sid kdelibs |
| 12:43.43 | ice_1963 | kde 3.4.2 |
| 12:43.56 | ice_1963 | sid |
| 12:44.27 | antgel | !info unstable kdelibs |
| 12:44.35 | antgel | ice_1963: incorrect |
| 12:44.44 | Muffie | ok, but how can I conclude that using this link: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kde/ |
| 12:44.55 | antgel | !info kdelibs sid |
| 12:45.02 | antgel | i give up |
| 12:45.04 | dpkg | kdelibs: (core libraries from the official KDE release), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-2 (sid), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 52 kB |
| 12:45.11 | antgel | huzzah! |
| 12:45.19 | antgel | Muffie: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/kdelibs |
| 12:45.22 | Pimpinella | i remember there was a debian package for automatic system hardening - something with debian in it's name iirc. though i'm almost sure i can't find it no more, anyone knows the name? |
| 12:45.24 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 12:45.32 | antgel | the kde package is a meta-package |
| 12:45.40 | tarzeau | Pimpinella: harden-doc read it |
| 12:45.45 | jm_ | Pimpinella: /msg dpkg search |
| 12:45.50 | Azar | ok after installing alsa, which forced kernel-image-2.4.27-2-k7 on me over my 2.6.8 kernel now I am not able to reinstall 2.6.8 back again what should I do? |
| 12:45.52 | idis | Muffie: look for kdebase |
| 12:46.04 | Muffie | antgel: : so, 4:3.4.2-2, means 3.4.2. ok. Whats the four in front of it? |
| 12:46.17 | Azar | should I reinstall? |
| 12:46.23 | Pimpinella | jm_: i'm searching for 20 minutes now, i wouldn't ask if i had found it ;) |
| 12:46.28 | antgel | Azar: learn how to use apt. no way installing alsa would force a kernel on you |
| 12:46.33 | jm_ | Pimpinella: so hard to type apt-cache search harden? |
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| 12:46.58 | MrEntropy | yo |
| 12:47.21 | Azar | antgel all I did was: apt-get install alsa-oss alsa-base alsa-utils alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-k7 |
| 12:47.26 | Pimpinella | jm_: if you tried you'd have seen, that no answer matching my description is provided |
| 12:47.27 | MrEntropy | what version of zaptel will compile under gcc 4.0.2, zaptel 1.0.10 does not |
| 12:47.34 | Azar | automatically replaces the kernel-image as well |
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| 12:47.58 | antgel | Azar: that's because you installed modules for that specific kernel version. what do you expect? |
| 12:48.03 | ebw | What is a good random number generator under debian? |
| 12:48.15 | antgel | !tell ebw about random |
| 12:48.17 | Azar | antgel there are no other modules in the apt-cache search |
| 12:48.22 | antgel | grr |
| 12:48.23 | Azar | I got what was offered |
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| 12:48.57 | antgel | Azar: alsa is in 2.6. you second-guessed badly |
| 12:49.14 | jm_ | Pimpinella: uhuh |
| 12:49.15 | ebw | antgel: I can't interpret dpkgs answer? What is usel? |
| 12:49.23 | Azar | antgel I upgraded the kernel and there was no alsa there: strangely enough |
| 12:49.45 | FlopsyPete | jm: if I cp GRUB's stage1 to fd0, I get 'GRUB' when I boot and nothing more, am I doing this wrong? |
| 12:49.52 | MCheevy | Azar: you do know it wouldn't be there as a module? |
| 12:50.01 | antgel | ebw: have you made any effort to find the answer before asking? |
| 12:50.08 | ircdevil | ebw: /msg dpkg tell be about urel |
| 12:50.12 | ircdevil | err usel |
| 12:50.13 | antgel | Azar: it is there. |
| 12:50.13 | Azar | ./etc/modules had no snd modules there whatsoever |
| 12:50.19 | antgel | MCheevy: they are modules |
| 12:50.40 | MCheevy | antgel: if it's compiled in?? |
| 12:50.42 | antgel | Azar: man modules. /etc/modules is a list of modules specified to load |
| 12:50.43 | Azar | antgel modconf I looked at sound modules no trace of alsa modules |
| 12:50.50 | vega- | FlopsyPete: why only stage1 ? |
| 12:50.53 | antgel | MCheevy: it's not compiled in. it's modules |
| 12:50.56 | Azar | uh |
| 12:51.05 | antgel | Azar: don't use modconf |
| 12:51.09 | MCheevy | Azar: did you check your /lib/modules dir? |
| 12:51.10 | Azar | ok so I have to reinstall Debian now? |
| 12:51.14 | FlopsyPete | vega-: I tried with stage1 and stage2 and the prompt is just a flashing cursor, nothing more |
| 12:51.35 | MCheevy | Azar: no, you can back out the alsa stuff and then you should be able to reinstall the newer kernel |
| 12:51.38 | antgel | Azar: no. just install a 2.6 kernel. and read some documentation |
| 12:51.53 | vega- | FlopsyPete: but did you copy both as jm_:s command said? |
| 12:51.54 | ebw | ircdevil: It says: usel is probably $PATH? What does that mean? |
| 12:52.06 | antgel | MCheevy: he doesn't need to back out anything. let him install a new kernel. he's going to hose his box if he carries on like this |
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| 12:52.08 | ice_1963 | this is what i installed alsa-bast alsa-utils gstreamer0.8-alsa libasound2 libesd-alsa libpt-plugins-alsa linux-sound-base |
| 12:52.19 | Azar | aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 will not install anymore |
| 12:52.29 | Azar | it looks it was listed now as OldLinux |
| 12:52.30 | ebw | antgel: I know about /dev/urandom and the C-routines for random number generation, but I simply like to hear someone other persons opinion. |
| 12:52.53 | FlopsyPete | vega-: ahh, I missed the subtlety of that, thought I was supposed to interpret the '?' myself |
| 12:53.16 | antgel | ebw: you should have put that in your original question |
| 12:53.24 | selfcontr0l | Gnea: btw i don't think the winecvs.sh was working (i need to read more) so i'm attempting with debian's wine package... |
| 12:53.25 | vega- | FlopsyPete: ah, no, just copy it exactly as it was :) |
| 12:53.33 | antgel | Azar: so fix lilo. install grub. |
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| 12:54.31 | antgel | selfcontr0l: do you have any specific reason to run cvs? |
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| 12:55.33 | jm_ | FlopsyPete: no, that's the expected result |
| 12:56.07 | jm_ | FlopsyPete: wait, you have to use ?, it was intentional |
| 12:56.11 | moethodixer | hello how do enable sound in the new kernel? |
| 12:56.19 | FlopsyPete | jm_, vega-, yeah I got it working now, thanks for the help |
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| 12:56.41 | streuner | moethodixer: 'new' kernel? |
| 12:57.03 | MCheevy | moethodixer: I think these boys are going to need some more info... which kernel version, what's your soundcard... |
| 12:57.17 | moethodixer | 2.6 |
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| 12:57.24 | streuner | moethodixer: /msg dpkg sound |
| 12:57.28 | moethodixer | k |
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| 12:57.55 | streuner | moethodixer: just use OSS |
| 12:58.06 | tuomas_ | Hello. I have a problem that always when i set a dns server to /etc/resolv.conf it will disappear from there and will be replaced by my router's/modem's default gateaway 10.0.0.2. how i can set the dns-server to stay there? |
| 12:58.16 | streuner | moethodixer: if the soundcard isn't supported in OSS ALSA then |
| 12:59.06 | moethodixer | well i did it yesterday but with the 2.4 kernel |
| 12:59.31 | MCheevy | moethodixer: did you read the link dpkg sent you? |
| 12:59.42 | moethodixer | yes am there now |
| 12:59.56 | MCheevy | moethodixer: were you using alsa under 2.4? |
| 13:00.20 | streuner | surely not |
| 13:00.25 | moethodixer | yes |
| 13:00.29 | streuner | heh |
| 13:00.43 | jm_ | tuomas_: using DHCP? |
| 13:00.52 | MCheevy | moethodixer: the reason it ain't working anymore is the only sentence in paragraph 2 |
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| 13:00.58 | crosvera | hello |
| 13:01.05 | moethodixer | no i reinstalled debian |
| 13:01.28 | tuomas_ | jm_: yes |
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| 13:01.43 | jm_ | tuomas_: then you can configure this in config file of your DHCP client |
| 13:02.02 | Azar | what is this lilo warning? /proc/partitions dows not match /dev directory structure? |
| 13:02.11 | tuomas_ | jm_: where is that? |
| 13:02.11 | maha | ada yang kenal chacha ga? |
| 13:02.25 | moethodixer | ok it got the package |
| 13:02.27 | streuner | Azar: you can just ignore them |
| 13:02.29 | jm_ | tuomas_: dpkg -L it and you'll see it |
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| 13:02.37 | Azar | thank you streuner |
| 13:02.40 | streuner | Azar: errors are the ones which count |
| 13:02.45 | tuomas_ | jm_: ok thanks |
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| 13:02.58 | crosvera | I want install debian sarge with the "netinstall" but i use a conection with pppoeconf, but the netinstall doesn't have the pppoeconf? what can i do? |
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| 13:03.03 | jm_ | tuomas_: you can find more details on the net, I don't remember it off top of my head |
| 13:03.10 | takatumi | tuomas_: if it's dhclient, look at prepend in man 5 dhclient.cof |
| 13:03.16 | takatumi | *conf |
| 13:03.19 | jm_ | yeah prepend, that's it, thanks |
| 13:03.31 | streuner | moethodixer: read the end of http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard too... |
| 13:03.31 | M_Cheevy | grrrrrrr this is really ticking me off... after midnight roughly every 1/2 something is flooding the 2.6ghz spectrum in my hood and keeps knocking me off my wlan |
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| 13:03.41 | moethodixer | yes i set it up |
| 13:03.50 | moethodixer | am a see it is working now |
| 13:04.06 | jm_ | M_Cheevy: smaybe some sleep walkers? |
| 13:04.22 | Reilithion | poor maha. I don't even know what language they were speaking |
| 13:04.23 | M_Cheevy | crosvera: you may have to look into making your own custom installer cd |
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| 13:04.46 | crosvera | :S |
| 13:05.01 | vega- | M_Cheevy: i experience same kind of problems, wlan signal just drop to zero for no apparent reason at random times :( |
| 13:05.02 | M_Cheevy | jm: unless ghosts effect the spectrum I doubt it.. there's a big telecom not too far from here though.... |
| 13:05.05 | Azar | hmm I keep booting in X mode and even though I twice did: apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm is still popping up.. what can I do to stop it? |
| 13:05.22 | M_Cheevy | vega: this ain't random... it's every 1/2 hr on the 1/2 hr after midnight |
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| 13:05.39 | vega- | M_Cheevy: heh, strange |
| 13:05.55 | moethodixer | yes the sound is working |
| 13:05.57 | M_Cheevy | I suspect the Yellow Pages hq just 500m away |
| 13:06.01 | SlayerXP | it _could_ be random. |
| 13:06.01 | moethodixer | thanks |
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| 13:06.18 | Reilithion | SlayerXP, that's the problem with randomness, isn't it? |
| 13:06.20 | SlayerXP | random meaning that every outcome is equally likely |
| 13:06.25 | Reilithion | You can never really be sure |
| 13:06.28 | SlayerXP | yup |
| 13:06.31 | moethodixer | how can i set up my samsung mp3 player in debian |
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| 13:06.43 | Reilithion | Like the random number generator that constantly spits out 7's |
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| 13:06.49 | M_Cheevy | SlayerXP: I've been keeping a log... the propabilty of random fitting this pattern ain't exactly bible code material but.... |
| 13:06.55 | moethodixer | it recognizes a high speed device |
| 13:06.59 | vega- | M_Cheevy: I also have /home mounted over NFS which means my whole desktop freezes :P |
| 13:07.00 | moethodixer | usb device |
| 13:07.11 | jm_ | moethodixer: tried mounting it? |
| 13:07.20 | vega- | no idea where to start debugging this |
| 13:07.25 | M_Cheevy | vega: you might wanna rethink that particular mount |
| 13:07.31 | moethodixer | yes but i dont know what to mount |
| 13:07.43 | jm_ | cat /proc/partitions, device is also mentioned in logs |
| 13:08.14 | vega- | M_Cheevy: yea, but it's quite convenient when you have many machines.. |
| 13:08.15 | M_Cheevy | vega: my first step was to get a larger antenae for my hub and improve it's positioning... |
| 13:08.29 | moethodixer | so type that in as root |
| 13:08.30 | M_Cheevy | vega: sounds like it's turning into a major pain in the arse! |
| 13:08.31 | vega- | M_Cheevy: or switch filesystem to something that can work offline too |
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| 13:09.02 | eka | hi all |
| 13:09.25 | Reilithion | vega-, what about having a /data partition on the network, and let each machine have its own /home partition which contains only bare essentials and a link to /data? |
| 13:09.35 | M_Cheevy | vega: aye... personally I have a mount point called "archives" which provides a link to anything I might want on other machines... still available but less volatile than /home |
| 13:09.48 | vega- | M_Cheevy: usually my signal level is something like 80/90 out of 100 |
| 13:10.03 | eka | i have this machine where i block all access in hosts.deny , but in hosts.allow i want to add only 2 hosts but due to been dynamics ip i want to add it by name.. but is not working... by ip works but not by name |
| 13:10.16 | vega- | Reilithion: M_Cheevy: hmm good suggestions, maybe i should try something like that too |
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| 13:10.55 | M_Cheevy | vega: my solution is for a stand-alone two system network... basically just one user.... |
| 13:10.55 | Reilithion | vega-, I use a /data partition myself, even though it's local. It means I can boot different distros and still have most of my desktop intact |
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| 13:11.54 | M_Cheevy | it goes three system when the g/f moves in next month though... and I guess an added user, but she's not gonna want to do linux |
| 13:12.04 | vega- | M_Cheevy: well i've got 3 systems and 2 users |
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| 13:12.17 | M_Cheevy | vega: right where I'm heading |
| 13:12.19 | vega- | M_Cheevy: that's only a matter of training, my wife hasn't used windows in over a year :) |
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| 13:12.37 | js_ | how can i kill a process that's using a rpc program but taht doesn't show up in ps aux? |
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| 13:12.58 | vega- | M_Cheevy: and some brainwashing :) |
| 13:12.58 | M_Cheevy | vega: my g/f is a computer user but not a "geek" by any means.. she's happy enough in windows.. and accept for maintenance, I'm keeping my hands off her machine! |
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| 13:13.13 | Reilithion | vega-, M_Cheevy, there's also ReactOS, which I'm very excited about. Hope it goes into Alpha soon |
| 13:13.31 | M_Cheevy | Reil: will keep my ear to the ground on that |
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| 13:13.52 | Reilithion | spread the word, M_Cheevy . www.reactos.org |
| 13:13.53 | moethodixer | ok thanks for all the help |
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| 13:14.06 | vega- | Reilithion: heh windows clone :) |
| 13:14.10 | bambata | hello |
| 13:14.17 | Reilithion | but a free one ^_^ |
| 13:14.18 | M_Cheevy | hello bata |
| 13:14.49 | M_Cheevy | Reil: tanstaafl! There ain't no such thing as a free lunch |
| 13:15.20 | Reilithion | Windows is lunch? |
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| 13:15.31 | Reilithion | that must make Debian the Thanksgiving Dinner |
| 13:15.39 | M_Cheevy | Reil: nevermind, sci fi literature reference |
| 13:15.52 | Reilithion | Asimov? |
| 13:15.59 | Azar | this is so fucked up, now that I got alsa and re-did my 2.6.8 kernel when I pick my sound card module for alsa it BORKS: incorrect module parameters : insmod /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-k7 why the fuck Id want 2.4.27? why? |
| 13:16.00 | M_Cheevy | Larry Niven.. Ringworld |
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| 13:16.05 | JohnFlux | W: GPG error: http://debian.linux-systeme.com unstable Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F35E97D46941C9D8 |
| 13:16.05 | pingouin | you're a dumb you can't understand (that's mean ;) ) |
| 13:16.10 | JohnFlux | I keep getting that |
| 13:16.14 | Azar | apt-cache does not give alsa for 2.6.8 |
| 13:16.15 | JohnFlux | what do I need to do? :) |
| 13:16.18 | Reilithion | I'll look it up |
| 13:16.25 | botsy | in ldap.secret i write the password in plain text or in crypt (with ldappasswd) ? |
| 13:16.26 | M_Cheevy | Azar: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 13:16.51 | Azar | thanks M_Cheevy |
| 13:17.12 | pihhan | Azar: no, apt-cache cant get you alsa for 2.6 kernel because its already in all 2.6 kernels |
| 13:17.32 | M_Cheevy | Reilithion: he's what I call "hard" science fiction.. you can check his math and physics |
| 13:17.53 | slapin | Hi all, sorry for stupid questions, but how do you switch between buffers in vim? :)) |
| 13:18.03 | netfrog | :bn |
| 13:18.05 | netfrog | :bp |
| 13:18.14 | pihhan | ctrl+W then j or k |
| 13:18.16 | Reilithion | hehe |
| 13:18.24 | M_Cheevy | and for once :b ain't a smiley |
| 13:18.36 | slapin | Oh thanks a lot!!! |
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| 13:18.51 | JohnFlux | slapin: what's a buffer.. ;) |
| 13:19.12 | pihhan | JohnFlux: when you edit more files in single window of (g)vim |
| 13:19.12 | M_Cheevy | where's a swingable dead trout when you need one? |
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| 13:19.15 | Reilithion | M_Cheevy, what heavyweight technique was I balking at? |
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| 13:20.07 | Azar | ok alsa fucked up the entire setup reinstall is needed |
| 13:20.15 | Azar | everything was wonderful until alsa |
| 13:20.15 | M_Cheevy | Reilithion: wasn't saying you were... Hard Science as apposed to soft science.. soft meaning wishy washy or fanciful.. Larry Niven's sci fi is "hard" science |
| 13:20.17 | Azar | as usual |
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| 13:20.52 | Reilithion | no, I mean, what made you use the term in the first place? |
| 13:20.56 | pihhan | Azar: nothing is better than alsa, keep that in mind :) |
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| 13:22.13 | M_Cheevy | Reilithion: I guess an assumption.. us old comp heads also tended to be sci fi heads... niven is one of the early masters, thought you might have heard of it and appreciated the humour in the reference |
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| 13:22.59 | pihhan | Azar: what problem do you have so you want reinstalling? |
| 13:22.59 | M_Cheevy | hey, it's 0230 here... I'm stretchin' a little ;) |
| 13:23.03 | Reilithion | sorry, it was lost on me. I'm a bit young, and not exactly a hacker (yet) |
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| 13:23.54 | M_Cheevy | vega: you still here? if so, where are you on this little spinnin' mud ball... (nz myself) |
| 13:24.37 | M_Cheevy | what about you Reilithion |
| 13:24.57 | bambata | i have a little problem with my debian distribution |
| 13:25.02 | vega- | M_Cheevy: yes, although thinking of starting the weekend soonish, but as to your questio: i'm in finland, so quite on the opposite side :) |
| 13:25.21 | bambata | with the x server |
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| 13:25.52 | bambata | who starts only when i'm root |
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| 13:25.58 | Reilithion | I have the distinct pleasure (read 'pain-in-the-neck') of living in Utah, in the USA |
| 13:26.01 | M_Cheevy | vega: couldn't remember if I had asked before but now that you say it, I the memory is starting to come back... the 70s have a lot to answer for to my short term memory |
| 13:26.20 | bambata | can anyone help me |
| 13:26.22 | bambata | ?? |
| 13:26.43 | M_Cheevy | bambata: quick answer, it's a permissions problem... |
| 13:26.44 | jm_ | bambata: with so little details given? I hardyl doubt, and also -- /msg dpkg enter |
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| 13:27.17 | jm_ | highly doubt even |
| 13:27.22 | bambata | the only warning message in the log file |
| 13:27.24 | bambata | is |
| 13:27.35 | bambata | skipping |
| 13:27.42 | bambata | wait a minute |
| 13:27.44 | M_Cheevy | where's that trout? |
| 13:27.54 | Azar | pihan, after I picked alsa from apt-cache , it forced the 2.4.27kernel over my existing 2.6.8 and from there up hell |
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| 13:28.09 | Reilithion | M_Cheevy, !trout ? |
| 13:28.14 | Azar | its ok now I will be more cautious with alsa |
| 13:28.31 | pihhan | Azar: ok, just remove alsa, remove kernel, switch back to your old kernel |
| 13:28.44 | bambata | Skipping "/usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcore.a:m_debug_clip.o": No symbols found |
| 13:28.47 | M_Cheevy | Reilithion: early I had asked "Where's a swingable trout when you need one" think of it as a clue hammer for those that can't get a clue... |
| 13:28.50 | cahoot | Azar: alsa's hardly to blame for that |
| 13:29.03 | Azar | pinhan, the issue is I have not take care to pin the kernels so it kinda piled on default |
| 13:29.18 | Reilithion | hehe |
| 13:29.27 | Reilithion | I know where you can get one, M_Cheevy |
| 13:29.27 | Azar | so I removed the 2.4.27 and started giving me issues |
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| 13:29.34 | Reilithion | !trout M_Cheevy |
| 13:29.56 | Reilithion | oh darn. doesn't look like it takes a parameter |
| 13:29.58 | pihhan | Azar: i cant tell i understood you |
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| 13:30.29 | Azar | pinhan, the way I see it if I pick alsa from apt-cache it forces an older kernel on me |
| 13:30.32 | takatumi | Azar: you've been installing and re-installing for months now, addicted eh? |
| 13:30.48 | M_Cheevy | Reil: yes it does, just sends as a /msg |
| 13:30.48 | jm_ | alsa-modules are for 2.4 kernel so that's to be expected ... |
| 13:30.52 | Azar | takatumi, this is a brand new PC for a friend |
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| 13:31.04 | bambata | dri is supported and i have successfully installed the fglrx module |
| 13:31.12 | Azar | jm_ so alsa will not work with 2.6.8 kernel? |
| 13:31.18 | Reilithion | M_Cheevy, no, I did that manually |
| 13:31.22 | nono31 | anyone knows when swt will be fix on debian amd64 sid? |
| 13:31.29 | M_Cheevy | Reil: ah... |
| 13:31.33 | jm_ | Azar: of course it will, but it comes with the kernel and one doesn't need to install it separately |
| 13:31.41 | Reilithion | I'm persistent like that. ^_^ |
| 13:31.49 | jm_ | !tell azar -about alsa for idiots |
| 13:31.50 | pihhan | Azar: just run synaptic, remove alsa kernel modules package, remove 2.4 kernel-image if it will not be removed with it |
| 13:32.10 | M_Cheevy | Reilithion: tenacity will get you to that lofty "hacker" status you're striving for ;) |
| 13:32.13 | Azar | jm_ that what was strange: I upgrade to 2.6.8 kernel, and when configuring modules I have not seen alsa there, very strange |
| 13:32.14 | jm_ | !tell azar -about alsa for morons |
| 13:32.24 | pihhan | Azar: then you should get back your old kernel, because no other kernel will be there |
| 13:32.33 | Azar | yay jm_ thanks :) |
| 13:32.48 | Azar | pinhan, im just reinstalling as we speak |
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| 13:33.02 | pihhan | Azar: god, its not windows you know :) |
| 13:33.21 | Azar | yes I know but I am not so expert to find and fix issues |
| 13:33.24 | Miguelzinho | is that possible du gives me a size, and df shows me another size? |
| 13:33.42 | mtnman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:33.50 | Reilithion | Miguelzinho, easily |
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| 13:34.25 | Azar | for example my PC installs agpgart modules with no issues, this new PC does not, but ONLY AFTER I get the 2.6.8 kernel, different drivers eh |
| 13:34.26 | Miguelzinho | because, du reports that my partition has 1.5 GB used, and df shows that it is full |
| 13:34.55 | Reilithion | Miguelzinho, how big is the partition |
| 13:35.01 | Miguelzinho | an actually, it is acting like full, because i cant create any file |
| 13:35.05 | Miguelzinho | 9 GB |
| 13:35.19 | M_Cheevy | Azar: I take it you're relatively new to linux... Have you come across the LDP (Linux Doc Proj) yet? |
| 13:35.30 | Miguelzinho | software raid1 on 2 ibm scsi disks |
| 13:35.32 | pihhan | Azar: just install libesd-alsa if you use gnome desktop |
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| 13:35.36 | bartden | hi, i'm running samba as PDC on my router witch is connected to the internet and my lan, that lan nic goes to an other router witch has running nat, so my first router cant see the clients behind my second router (the nat one), is it possible to make win xp clients (behind the nat) join the PDC on my first router ? |
| 13:36.08 | cahoot | M_Cheevy: IIRC it's install #60 or so |
| 13:36.38 | M_Cheevy | cahoot: come again... has the ldp been replaced? |
| 13:36.39 | Azar | M_Cheevy, yes I am new and learning really slow |
| 13:36.52 | Reilithion | Azar, learn to look in /usr/share/doc . It's a fountain of information. |
| 13:37.01 | Azar | pihhan, I only use openbox, gnome looks too heavy |
| 13:37.12 | M_Cheevy | Reil: is the LDP still going, it was a collection of overview documents... |
| 13:37.22 | Azar | Reilithion, took note, thanks |
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| 13:38.00 | honschu | Is there unofficial OpenOffice-2 for debian sarge? |
| 13:38.06 | Reilithion | HOWTO's? Yeah, I think it is. IIRC, a lot of those docs come as part of Debian and get stored in /usr/share/doc |
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| 13:38.16 | M_Cheevy | Azar: the LDP used to provide (and I think it still does) some good overview documents.. for example the Network Administrator's Guide... covers all the in's and outs of tcp/ip |
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| 13:38.28 | streuner | honschu: backports.org |
| 13:38.28 | pihhan | bartden: why you have router conencted to internet and behind it another router doing NAT? |
| 13:38.43 | streuner | honschu: did you look for backports yet? |
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| 13:39.26 | streuner | !tell honschu about backports |
| 13:39.33 | M_Cheevy | Reil: these are sort of beyond the individual HOWTOs.. more compilation/overview documents |
| 13:40.05 | Reilithion | ah. |
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| 13:40.24 | MCheevy | ugh.. |
| 13:40.44 | honschu | streuner: No, I didn't look for backports yet. I'll do so. |
| 13:40.49 | MCheevy | hey, how can I register with the nickserv or channelserv? |
| 13:41.04 | jm_ | /msg nickserv help |
| 13:41.12 | MCheevy | jm: thanks |
| 13:41.19 | bartden | pihhan because its a stupid dlink router i need for my wireless connections |
| 13:41.20 | Reilithion | It's 3 degrees F where I live |
| 13:41.29 | jm_ | as for chanserv - you can't do much unless you have access |
| 13:41.55 | MCheevy | jm_: much obliged |
| 13:42.05 | Azar | M_Cheevy, yes indeed in fact for the past 4 days and nights I was learning iptables on my own old PC... this is just a new PC of a friend I installl for him Debian |
| 13:42.10 | MCheevy | should probably wait till my ghost drops off |
| 13:42.18 | jm_ | you can kill ghosts |
| 13:42.41 | MCheevy | jm_: cool.. seems much has changed since my original irc days of 86-87 |
| 13:42.48 | jm_ | MCheevy: oh yes |
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| 13:43.01 | jm_ | and I thought I'm oldtimer when it comes to IRC :P |
| 13:43.03 | MCheevy | jm: any hints on how to croke a ghost? |
| 13:43.10 | jm_ | MCheevy: /msg nickserv help ghost |
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| 13:43.34 | MCheevy | d'oh |
| 13:44.45 | MCheevy | ask a stupid question.... |
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| 13:45.49 | shakti | bugger bugger bugger bugger... now there's two of them |
| 13:45.57 | shakti | <--- M_Cheevy |
| 13:46.48 | tuomas_ | is there a command line based msn messenger client? |
| 13:47.13 | LeonardoCabelo | tuomas_, centericq |
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| 13:47.38 | tuomas_ | LeonardoCabelo: thats not only for icq as could be thought of the name? |
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| 13:48.34 | marcels | tuomas_: No |
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| 13:49.54 | dimir | tuomas_: $ apt-cache search msn console |
| 13:49.54 | dimir | tmsnc - textbased (console) MSN client |
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| 13:50.36 | vulture | dimir: there's also CenterICQ.. (ncurses interface to many IM networks) |
| 13:50.36 | shakti | jm_: welp, don't seem to be able to kill them ghosts |
| 13:50.50 | dimir | vulture: not me, who needs it. |
| 13:50.51 | PerfDave | tuomas_: There's also any console IRC client and bitlbee |
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| 13:51.57 | tuomas_ | PerfDave: yes im using irssi. |
| 13:52.03 | tuomas_ | thats cool that centericq |
| 13:52.06 | tuomas_ | it works :D |
| 13:52.26 | vulture | mutt + irssi + centericq, I'm all set |
| 13:52.29 | vulture | (oh, and screen) |
| 13:53.27 | PerfDave | tuomas_: So look at bitlbee, it allows you to use an IRC client as a gateway to various IM networks. |
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| 13:54.01 | Guerin | but im.bitlbee.com is down at the moment |
| 13:54.19 | Guerin | so if you want to connect to a bitlbee, you want testing.bitlbee.org |
| 13:54.33 | Miguelzinho | I have df reporting that a partition is full, but, it actualy has 1.5 ocupied, and df -i reports to me that i have a LOT of free inodes |
| 13:55.29 | PerfDave | Guerin: Uhm, or you can just install it and connect to localhost :) |
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| 13:55.59 | Guerin | PerfDave: not much use if you want a host to connect to when you're at $randomplace |
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| 13:56.57 | PerfDave | Guerin: Yeah, because you can't ssh to a machine running bitlbee, or even (shudder) make your own bitlbee installation remotely accessible. |
| 13:57.18 | Guerin | PerfDave: yeah, yeah |
| 13:57.36 | PerfDave | I don't think I've ever used any non-local bitlbee server |
| 13:57.54 | Guerin | hrm, I use *.bitlbee.org all the time |
| 13:58.14 | Guerin | just because I'm lazy and I hate inetd, which bitlbee more or less needs to run out of |
| 13:58.28 | PerfDave | Guerin: Sending IM passwords in plaintext over the Internet! OMG! :) |
| 13:58.50 | Guerin | PerfDave: bah, there are ssl servers on bitlbee.org |
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| 13:59.07 | Guerin | PerfDave: not that my IM conversations are of any security worth |
| 13:59.08 | PerfDave | Guerin: IRC over SSL? What madness is this? |
| 13:59.24 | Guerin | PerfDave: MSN over IRC over SSL! |
| 13:59.31 | Guerin | aaargh! |
| 13:59.37 | jm_ | shakti: have you registered with nickserv? |
| 13:59.40 | PerfDave | You'll be using UTF-8 on IRC next, you heathen! |
| 13:59.52 | Guerin | the madness ... it comes apache ...meep!!awskdjvbasdctuyjrf rsysry! fhtagn! |
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| 14:02.53 | Azar | so jm_ eventually when I install 2.6.8 kernel again it should come with alsa modules, right? |
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| 14:03.10 | Azar | no need to search and install, I hope |
| 14:03.37 | M_Cheevy | two dead ghosts |
| 14:04.48 | jm_ | Azar: not should, it does |
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| 14:05.41 | Azar | jm_ that why I felt it was strange, while upgrading the kernel I have not seen snd modules at all, was looking to pin my sound card and have not seen them |
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| 14:06.15 | tarzeau | why do some sata devices appear as hd* some as sd*? is that 2.4 or 2.6 related? |
| 14:06.48 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau yes |
| 14:06.50 | jm_ | tarzeau: yes |
| 14:07.00 | tarzeau | in 2.4 it's hd* and 2.6 sd*? |
| 14:07.05 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau yup |
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| 14:07.16 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau it's a bitch when you have raid devices and change kernels |
| 14:07.18 | tarzeau | interesting, what if i have a 2.4.32 with sd*? |
| 14:07.30 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau could happen |
| 14:07.36 | tarzeau | on one machine and a laptop shows hd* same kernel, different hardware |
| 14:07.38 | M_Cheevy | Knight_Lord: You booting from a sata raid install? |
| 14:07.43 | tarzeau | funny |
| 14:07.45 | Knight_Lord | M_Cheevy software RAId |
| 14:07.45 | netfrog | bye all |
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| 14:07.51 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau that sounds more strange |
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| 14:08.00 | M_Cheevy | Knight_Lord: multi-boot environment? |
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| 14:08.14 | Knight_Lord | M_Cheevy only on OS, but multiple kernels sure |
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| 14:08.48 | jm_ | tarzeau: libata uses sd* |
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| 14:09.03 | poncho | Hola.1 |
| 14:09.08 | poncho | Hello. |
| 14:09.23 | M_Cheevy | Knight_Lord: close but no cigar (for me that is)... trying to set up a sata raid 0 (pii_3114) with winblows and debian.. having a bitch of a time... have been pointed to dmraid |
| 14:09.53 | M_Cheevy | s/pii/sii/ |
| 14:09.56 | Knight_Lord | M_Cheevy what kind of problem are you having? Is it hardware raid 0? |
| 14:10.26 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau does it work well? Any advantege of the BSD kernel? |
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| 14:10.29 | M_Cheevy | Knight_Lord: depends who you ask.. it's software raid 0 (aka fakeraid) |
| 14:10.35 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: better NFS, UFS2 filesystem |
| 14:10.37 | Knight_Lord | M_Cheevy ok but not mdadm |
| 14:10.54 | Knight_Lord | M_Cheevy one of this motherboard based RAID? |
| 14:10.56 | M_Cheevy | KL: mdadm does not appear to be friendly with my existing paritions |
| 14:11.10 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: indeed works very well for me (x, sound): http://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 14:11.25 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau in what way if the NFS better? |
| 14:11.44 | M_Cheevy | KL: sort of... add on card... el-cheapo... uses combo of board bios and driver software to handle raid.. not true hardware raid as not OS transparent |
| 14:11.44 | Knight_Lord | *is the NFS better* |
| 14:11.48 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: you can kill hanging mounts. but wait nfs isn't ported to gnu/kfreebsd yet :) |
| 14:12.13 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: unlike on linux where they hang forever (or an atomic war destroys the computer) |
| 14:12.18 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau I see. I basically only run NFS servers, so it might be interesting |
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| 14:12.34 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: we run nfs servers for linux workstations on freebsd 5 |
| 14:12.36 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau i even thought about using solaris |
| 14:12.42 | alele- | how can i set squid to not cache some specific site? |
| 14:12.44 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: performance is much better as well as stability |
| 14:12.45 | orlowsks | Not trying to start a flame war but does anyone have a preferred ftp server? |
| 14:12.50 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau problem is i also need a good software raid |
| 14:13.00 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau and xfs would also be nice |
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| 14:13.11 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: how large are your filesystems? what's wrong with ufs2+soft updates? |
| 14:13.13 | PerfDave | orlowsks: SFTP :) |
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| 14:13.33 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: here you can find some details about our servers, http://nic.phys.ethz.ch |
| 14:13.37 | bobslaede | heya, i just compiled ghostscript8.. and i currently have gs7.. but how do i make it use this version 8 |
| 14:13.40 | Knight_Lord | tarzeau fs is about 4TB. I just like xfs because of performance, i never tried ufs |
| 14:14.00 | tarzeau | Knight_Lord: i think we had ext2/3 before and performance was lousy (before i was here) |
| 14:14.01 | Knight_Lord | raid6 at the moment |
| 14:14.10 | Knight_Lord | yea ext2/3 is pretty lousy |
| 14:14.10 | orlowsks | Documentation is good for SFTP? |
| 14:14.38 | stew | man i wish my hardware could do raid 6 |
| 14:14.44 | alele- | how can i set squid to not cache some specific site? |
| 14:14.59 | stew | alele-: ask #squid |
| 14:15.00 | tarzeau | alele-: check the documentation? |
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| 14:15.56 | poncho | how to install japanese fonts? |
| 14:15.59 | alele- | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:16.21 | M_Cheevy | man! looks like the us is getting some serious snow..... |
| 14:16.23 | tarzeau | poncho: apt-cache search jap font ? |
| 14:16.35 | tarzeau | M_Cheevy: got some satellite images or webcam ones? |
| 14:16.37 | akizzle | how do I install debian on another partition using hard disk install? |
| 14:16.44 | M_Cheevy | tarzeau: BBC World |
| 14:16.47 | akizzle | i have slackware at the mo |
| 14:16.59 | stew | M_Cheevy: i just woke up to about 4" in nyc |
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| 14:17.13 | M_Cheevy | stew: they say their expecting 6" |
| 14:17.19 | stew | which means i have to go shovel after this cup of coffee |
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| 14:17.41 | M_Cheevy | stew: I won't rub in the fact that I split from Philly for Auckland and am now looking at palm trees and balmy weather.... |
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| 14:18.02 | stew | M_Cheevy: don't bother, I much prefer snow to balmy weather |
| 14:18.32 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: Auckland isn't that nice at any time of year |
| 14:19.02 | l4vim | doeas anyone use adaptec 7xxx SCSI raid controller ? |
| 14:19.02 | M_Cheevy | Geurin: beg to differ... we get some great weather here... all four seasons.. usually in one day |
| 14:19.27 | yann_ | hi, i found that there is a command findsmb on redhat to browse a samba domain, what's the equivalent on debian? |
| 14:19.38 | M_Cheevy | sorry bout the typo, Guerin |
| 14:20.11 | akizzle | can sum1 help me install from hd? the manual doesn't have any instructions on it |
| 14:20.15 | yann_ | l4vim, i do |
| 14:20.28 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: yeah. You spelt 'Wellington' as 'A-u-c-k-l-a-n-d' |
| 14:20.50 | Guerin | most people from NZ would never forgive that, but I have a big hear |
| 14:20.52 | Guerin | t |
| 14:20.52 | tralala | yann_: I don't know what findsmb does, but smbclient can browse stuff |
| 14:21.05 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: in the 7yrs I've been here the 4 seasons in one day line has been tossed about for AKL not WLG |
| 14:21.12 | valdyn | yann_: smbtree |
| 14:21.21 | akizzle | konqueror also has a network browser - it needs some services started but it tells u which ones |
| 14:21.41 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: well, it's much more true in wellington than in auckland |
| 14:21.44 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: besides wellington is one of the few cities where rain falls sideways |
| 14:22.00 | M_Cheevy | "windy wellington" |
| 14:22.04 | yann_ | valdyn, thanks |
| 14:22.14 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: yeah, but it only falls *at all* about 30 days a year - as opposed to auckland's 300 |
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| 14:22.28 | yann_ | tralala, no smbclient can't browse _a domain_ afaik |
| 14:22.38 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: hey, after Seattle, that's an improvement for me ;) |
| 14:22.48 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: you have a point there. |
| 14:22.49 | akizzle | vladyn - can u tell me how 2 install from hd? I already have slackware installed, but i want debian over that |
| 14:23.13 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: can't let it get too dry.. the sinus' dry out |
| 14:23.15 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: honestly, I'd love to be anywhere in NZ, even in auckland, right now. |
| 14:23.26 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: where are ya? |
| 14:23.32 | Guerin | I could even cope with Christchurch for a few days, I reckon |
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| 14:23.38 | stew | akizzle: /msg dpkg chroot install ; /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 14:23.43 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: CHC is a good food town |
| 14:23.52 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: Ko-rea (pronounce it like Sammy L in Jackie Brown for effect) |
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| 14:24.10 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: Chch is nice if you like skinheads. |
| 14:24.10 | broadcaster | hi! i ssh access to a server in runlevel 1. S20ssh is in /etc/rc1.d, bu somehow the network seems to be disabled. what can i do to enable the network in RL1? (i know, RL1 is supposed to be without network, but as i said i's aserver with no keyboard and nothing...) |
| 14:24.29 | broadcaster | s/i ssh/i need ssh |
| 14:24.30 | stew | broadcaster: /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 14:24.35 | Guerin | broadcaster: runlevel 1 is sincle. |
| 14:24.38 | Guerin | single |
| 14:24.48 | M_Cheevy | Guerin: didn't encounter that many but... have to say I haven't lasted more than a couple of days there myself... kinda snores-ville for me... |
| 14:24.52 | Guerin | broadcaster: change to another runlevel if you want remote access |
| 14:25.01 | Guerin | M_Cheevy: me too. Too flat. |
| 14:25.32 | akizzle | thanks stew |
| 14:25.33 | broadcaster | Guerin: Guerin: i have to kill all processes except ssh as i want to do something *evil* to the harddiscs |
| 14:25.43 | M_Cheevy | welp folks.. it's coming up on 0330.... here's hoping y'all have a nice night, morning, day... whatever |
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| 14:25.56 | broadcaster | Guerin: and i am in RL2... |
| 14:26.01 | vulture | broadcaster: schedule it in a script so it brings the network back up after you're done.. |
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| 14:26.04 | JensB | Hi everybody |
| 14:26.13 | Guerin | broadcaster: then you don't get to do it remotely. Or you get to do what stew said. |
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| 14:26.47 | JensB | I'm using Sarge and discovered a potentially harmful (for me) "magic" definition in the /usr/share/misc/file/magic file used by 'file'. I removed it but 'file' seems to rely on the "file.mgc" compiled version. How do I compile a new one? |
| 14:28.04 | Guerin | JensB: i sincerely doubt you need to do this. |
| 14:28.15 | PerfDave | JensB: Did you check out man 5 magic? |
| 14:28.22 | JensB | Yes, I did. |
| 14:28.31 | JensB | "file -C" gets mentioned but it does not do anything. |
| 14:29.33 | JensB | Guerin, well.. there's "bzip compressed data" defined as "begins with "BZ". I route mail for an organization whose initials begin with "BZ", and they write mails that begin with "BZ". So amavisd-new thinks their (plain-text) mails are bzip compressed and subsequently fails "unpacking" (thus scanning) them, and quarantines them. |
| 14:29.56 | JensB | Guerin, if you have a different solution, please tell me. |
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| 14:30.21 | PerfDave | How does the mail start with "BZ"? Surely it starts with "From " |
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| 14:30.41 | JensB | PerfDave, the plain-text part, which is seperated form the mail by amavis, begins with "BZ". |
| 14:30.52 | Guerin | JensB: hahah |
| 14:30.55 | PerfDave | And shouldn't amavisd-new rely on the Content-Type: MIME header? |
| 14:31.03 | Guerin | STUPID amavisd |
| 14:31.19 | JensB | ok, if I can't fix 'file', how do I fix amavis-nes? |
| 14:31.25 | JensB | s/nes/new/ |
| 14:31.30 | Guerin | don't use it |
| 14:31.33 | PerfDave | No idea, I don't use amavis :) |
| 14:31.38 | Guerin | would be my plan |
| 14:31.40 | JensB | no chance, sorry |
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| 14:31.44 | JensB | too many windows users on my network |
| 14:31.48 | Guerin | being as it's more or less useless anyway |
| 14:31.52 | Guerin | bah |
| 14:32.07 | JensB | sorry, can't change that. |
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| 14:32.26 | JensB | ok, I'll file a bug report to amavis-new, but how do I fix this now? any ideas? |
| 14:32.30 | Guerin | strip attachments ending in .exe.scr.com.bat.zip, 99% of your problems are solved |
| 14:32.40 | JensB | re-compiling the "magic" file would be a nice short term solution. |
| 14:32.51 | JensB | Guerin, those are rejected at the SMTP level anyway. |
| 14:33.02 | PerfDave | Wouldn't re-compiling the "magic" file make you vulnerable to viruses in bzipped files? :) |
| 14:33.04 | Guerin | JensB: then you have no problems re: viruses |
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| 14:33.20 | Guerin | but no, I don't know how to fix it, and I don't know how to rebuild the magic file |
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| 14:33.55 | learnfromscratch | when i do make xconfig .. i am prompted to install QT .. can some one tell me what is the exact package name of QT .. so that i can install .. apt-cache and apt-file report too many number of packages for me to pick up.. |
| 14:34.37 | zophyx____ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:34.40 | bobslaede | ghostscript, how do i change the default font dir? |
| 14:34.42 | Guerin | !make xconfig |
| 14:34.42 | dpkg | No, don't. Don't make gconfig either. Make menuconfig like a sane person. Please, think of the penguins. |
| 14:34.47 | Guerin | learnfromscratch: ^ |
| 14:35.20 | zophyx____ | xconfig is harder to look at understand than menuconfig i think |
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| 14:35.34 | zophyx____ | to look at and understand |
| 14:35.48 | Guerin | just don't become dependant on it |
| 14:35.54 | learnfromscratch | what is qt dev package ? |
| 14:36.09 | Guerin | learnfromscratch: apt-cache search libqt dev |
| 14:36.15 | zophyx____ | it was a long time before i began using menuconfig in preference over make config |
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| 14:36.39 | tralala | learnfromscratch: if you can't install qt why do you think you can compile a kernel? |
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| 14:37.05 | JensB | back |
| 14:37.11 | PerfDave | learnfromscratch: Why are you compiling your own kernel anyway? There's rarely any need to do so. |
| 14:37.15 | zophyx____ | tralala: is dkpg a prerequisite for intelligence ? |
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| 14:37.35 | JensB | Guerin, were you saying your virus scanner relies on the MIME type to scan attachments? |
| 14:37.43 | slept | quitte, are you awake ? |
| 14:37.48 | learnfromscratch | PerfDave: i just want to know how to compile a kernel |
| 14:37.50 | JensB | Guerin, how does your scanner cope with a "message.scr" with "application/x-wav"? |
| 14:38.03 | tralala | zophyx____: who talks about intelligence? |
| 14:38.19 | PerfDave | learnfromscratch: *shrug* Fair enough. Personally I don't think it's worth the bother, compiling kernels is so last century :) |
| 14:38.39 | Guerin | JensB: i don't scan attachments, I just strip them at smtp level |
| 14:38.44 | tralala | !PerfDave++ |
| 14:38.52 | Guerin | JensB: actually, I don't do either right now |
| 14:38.53 | JensB | Guerin, I can't do that, my users would kill me |
| 14:39.00 | Blackhold | I'm looking for a program that allows you to mount a dvd with menus and more... I have some photos that I'll organize by some folders, and then in one of this folders will be an other 35 subfolders; then in the folders will be a lot of photos that I want to scroll with backgroud music |
| 14:39.04 | Guerin | i used to strip them, I just let them by now |
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| 14:39.07 | Blackhold | like mac os idvd |
| 14:39.12 | Guerin | users can look after themselves |
| 14:39.12 | Blackhold | but for debian |
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| 14:39.23 | Guerin | JensB: sucks to be you |
| 14:39.31 | JensB | Guerin, not if you want to sell "virus-free" mail accounts :p |
| 14:39.38 | JensB | Guerin, well, I sure have a problem right now |
| 14:39.38 | JensB | :) |
| 14:39.42 | PerfDave | There's no such thing as a virus-free mail account :) |
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| 14:39.46 | Guerin | JensB: i don't sell anything |
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| 14:39.54 | Guerin | !PerfDave++ |
| 14:39.55 | eleftherios | hm, I have an HP 1320 laser printer connected over USB, what's the recommended software to use such a printer? |
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| 14:40.01 | JensB | PerfDave, depends on the definition of "virus" |
| 14:40.03 | JensB | *g* |
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| 14:40.13 | Guerin | JensB: nope. |
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| 14:40.19 | tralala | and on the definition on free perhaps |
| 14:40.24 | tralala | of free |
| 14:40.32 | JensB | PerfDave, well, sign up with me for free and if you do get a virus, I'll give you all your money back. |
| 14:40.40 | JensB | *g* |
| 14:41.01 | Guerin | JensB: sounds like a deal. Doesn't sound like much profit in selling, though. |
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| 14:41.23 | Yp3rite | hello all |
| 14:41.24 | JensB | Guerin, spamfreemail.de |
| 14:41.35 | Yp3rite | someone can help me with a problem on netinstall debian |
| 14:41.36 | Yp3rite | ? |
| 14:41.49 | antgel | Yp3rite: someone can ask a question? |
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| 14:42.16 | Yp3rite | yes |
| 14:42.18 | JensB | Guerin, mail accounts are free.. domains, etc. are not |
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| 14:43.34 | JensB | PerfDave, go for it: jens-spamme@spamfreemail.de |
| 14:43.42 | fluor- | hi there - I'm trying to use USB speakers on a Debian-powered iBook G4 - when I plug the speakers, snd_usb_audio gets loaded, but sound then still comes out of the internal speakers - how can I switch to the USB speakers? |
| 14:44.13 | antgel | fluor-: guess - check your mixer settings? |
| 14:44.13 | PerfDave | fluor-: alsaconfig? |
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| 14:44.16 | JensB | PerfDave, I don't save spam, our users' spam folders have a lifetime of 5 days. |
| 14:44.35 | Yp3rite | when my debian start for the first time he appear on the screen : ohci1394_0 : Unexpected PCI ressource length of 4000 ! |
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| 14:45.03 | learnfromscratch | i am using ntfs in windows and reading those from linux.. will this lead to any problems ?? will my hard disk get damaged?? |
| 14:45.27 | Duelist | learnfromscratch: reading only? definitely not |
| 14:45.28 | antgel | learnfromscratch: we can't predict the future, but ntfs read is reasonably mature |
| 14:45.39 | fluor- | antgel: does alsamixer allow to change the sound output? |
| 14:45.49 | Duelist | read and write? different beast entirely. not surprisingly Microsoft has not been forthcoming on exactly how to write to NTFS |
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| 14:45.56 | Guerin | i don't save spam either |
| 14:45.58 | antgel | fluor-: i have an idea. try it |
| 14:46.08 | fluor- | antgel: I did |
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| 14:46.26 | Guerin | but I have root on an IP in the ASN which originates more spam than any other in the world :) |
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| 14:46.43 | JensB | Guerin, -v |
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| 14:47.13 | l4vim | yann_ : can you help me with install debian on that ? when I try it shows scsi0,scsi1 Adaptec 7xxx but I don't have any hard-drive |
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| 14:47.32 | fluor- | PerfDave: alsaconf didn't work either |
| 14:47.38 | Guerin | JensB: ? |
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| 14:47.56 | Yp3rite | when my debian start for the first time he appear on the screen : ohci1394_0 : Unexpected PCI ressource length of 4000 ! |
| 14:48.02 | yann_ | l4vim, which kernel are using? |
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| 14:48.04 | Knight_Lord | fluor- those speakers are a real problem |
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| 14:48.09 | yann_ | *you |
| 14:48.13 | JensB | Guerin, tell me more (-v : verbose) |
| 14:48.14 | Yp3rite | someone can help me please? |
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| 14:48.23 | Knight_Lord | fluor- i don't think you'll be able to make them work. Problem is they use an apple specific thing |
| 14:48.32 | antgel | Yp3rite: why is that a problem? |
| 14:48.32 | l4vim | I try to boot CD with 2.4.20-bf24 and 2.4.31-bf24 |
| 14:48.32 | Guerin | JensB: whois me |
| 14:48.36 | Knight_Lord | fluor- that increases the power of the USB port when they are connected |
| 14:48.48 | Knight_Lord | fluor- without it they will ge very little power and not work at all |
| 14:48.52 | yann_ | l4vim, how do you install debian? cd? network? |
| 14:48.55 | PerfDave | fluor-: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 14:49.16 | fluor- | PerfDave: I'm running 2.6.12.5 with usb-sound compiled in |
| 14:49.20 | l4vim | yann_ : it is minimal CD to make possible install debian by network |
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| 14:49.44 | fluor- | Knight_Lord: I'm not using Apple speakers |
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| 14:49.48 | JensB | Guerin, Korea, huh? |
| 14:50.00 | l4vim | yann_ : now I'm downloading 31r0a and I hope that there is possible to boot 2.6.x kernel |
| 14:50.03 | yann_ | l4vim, not all modules are available with that, although aic7xxx module is quite a common one |
| 14:50.07 | fluor- | Knight_Lord: just some USB speakers that were out there - Jazz Speakers J1301 |
| 14:50.20 | Yp3rite | my debian not start |
| 14:50.35 | Yp3rite | ..i don't know what trying |
| 14:50.40 | l4vim | yann_ : I have no modules shown by this but there is adaptec 7xxx printet on boot |
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| 14:50.53 | Yp3rite | the message appear and block on |
| 14:51.04 | PerfDave | fluor-: Oh, you're running a custom kernel? |
| 14:51.05 | l4vim | yann_ : then I have this in /proc/scsi/aic7xxx - 0 and 1 file |
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| 14:51.35 | fluor- | PerfDave: yes, I do |
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| 14:51.55 | fluor- | "kernel: usbcore: registered new driver snd-usb-audio" <- just plugged them back in |
| 14:51.59 | PerfDave | fluor-: Oh, then you're on your own :) |
| 14:52.16 | fluor- | oh |
| 14:52.22 | Yp3rite | antgel, |
| 14:52.24 | fluor- | /proc/asound/cards now contains 1 [Audio ]: USB-Audio - USB Audio |
| 14:52.24 | fluor- | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:52.27 | Guerin | JensB: yeak. Ask karsten m. self about it. |
| 14:52.28 | Yp3rite | can help me ? |
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| 14:52.29 | l4vim | yann_ : any idea ? |
| 14:52.49 | fluor- | how can I switch to card 1? (though it's not a card) |
| 14:53.20 | antgel | Yp3rite: you don't give enough info |
| 14:53.23 | fluor- | there's an entry in /proc/asound/pcm too |
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| 14:53.46 | Yp3rite | it 's just on the start |
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| 14:53.53 | Yp3rite | i have just this |
| 14:54.03 | Yp3rite | an see that their are many problems on irq |
| 14:54.19 | tralala | fluor-: did you try alsamixer -c 1 |
| 14:54.25 | l4vim | yann_ : ? |
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| 14:56.11 | ChristianP | hi all |
| 14:56.14 | fluor- | tralala: thanks |
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| 14:56.23 | Guerin | hrm, seems my isp is #14, not #1 any more |
| 14:56.32 | Guerin | gutted |
| 14:56.36 | fluor- | tralala: I get a PCM column, but it doesn't seem to do anything |
| 14:56.58 | ChristianP | how can i list all the ports over which are running my serveces? |
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| 14:57.10 | Knight_Lord | ChristianP netstat for example |
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| 14:58.05 | Moeen | The Firefox-1.5 package is available for Debian ? |
| 14:58.18 | Knight_Lord | Moeen no |
| 14:58.28 | ChristianP | Knight_Lord, netstat doesn't displays all the ports available (i know some port over which zope instances are running, but they are not displayed) |
| 14:59.05 | ChristianP | have i to add some options? |
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| 14:59.14 | Azar | ok reinstall and new kernel 2.6.8 done, I finally got snd modules, question do I need to install anything alsa related? like alsaconf, alsamixer? |
| 14:59.20 | Moeen | Can I use Ubuntu Firefox package for install firefox in my Debian Box ? |
| 14:59.20 | Knight_Lord | ChristianP if netstat doesn't show them they are not open |
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| 14:59.29 | Knight_Lord | ChristianP you can nmap your machine and check |
| 14:59.34 | stew | Azar: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 14:59.54 | Azar | thanks stew |
| 15:00.14 | jimr | new question for forum... Running gnome desktop on 2.2.20-idepci. Each time a user logs into gnome, a process called 'mapping-daemon' is started. The process seems to behave properly for awhile but inevitably runs away at some point and monoplizes the CPU (100%). I can kill it with no apparent ill effects but I suspect there is something it's supposed to do I just haven't found yet. Has anyone seen this before? |
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| 15:00.26 | stew | !idepci |
| 15:00.27 | dpkg | 2.2.20-idepci makes Baby Tux cry. apt-get install kernel-image-2.2.20 or kernel-image-2.4.18-1-686 or similar. You didn't read the final section of the install guide /msg dpkg install guide. Go read it before we laugh at you :) |
| 15:00.33 | Lilldude10 | have to edit xf86config what code to getinto it |
| 15:00.45 | Lilldude10 | and x org what code to get into it |
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| 15:00.57 | stew | jimr: is that machine running woody still? you might consider upgrading to sarge and installing a real kernel |
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| 15:01.12 | antgel | Moeen: only if you want to hose your system |
| 15:01.18 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 15:01.41 | park_ | #flood |
| 15:01.46 | stew | Moeen: what version of debian do you run? |
| 15:01.54 | Mardus | Hi. |
| 15:01.57 | Moeen | stew, Sarge |
| 15:01.58 | Mardus | Oh, I already said that. |
| 15:02.05 | antgel | probably an unstable/knoppix hybrid |
| 15:02.18 | ChristianP | Knight_Lord, netstat -l now list all ports,but now, how can i display process number? |
| 15:02.32 | petemc | ChristianP: man netstat |
| 15:02.33 | stew | Moeen: you could *try* /msg dpkg simple sid backport ; but instead of backporting from sid, backport from ubuntu. installing the ubuntu package directly on sarge would not be good |
| 15:03.10 | antgel | Moeen: or you could install the tar.gz from mozilla.org. or you could not care. |
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| 15:03.27 | Mardus | Here's a RAM question: What are the chances of two RAM modules in one computer -- one 100MHz 64Mb and another 133MHz 256Mb -- of making the machine unstable? |
| 15:03.53 | antgel | Mardus: we can't answer that question. sias |
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| 15:04.12 | Wyzard | Mardus: They'll both run at the slower speed, 100MHz, and there shouldn't be any problems unless one of them is defective |
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| 15:04.35 | jnc | Mardus: if memtest86 runs 4 passes okay, then i don't see the problem |
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| 15:05.29 | jnc | Mardus: more of an issue is if those modules are causing the BIOS to choose the wrong FSB for the CPU, which is pretty common on early 2000 year computers |
| 15:05.58 | mchne | Hello. I'm trying to install debian through netbooting from a friends windows box, but so far I've been unsuccessful with setting up a tftp-server to use a bootfile - do you have any suggestion or howto to point to? |
| 15:06.10 | Mardus | I ran memtest86 on both independently up to test #7, so both passed. Only that was after the machine had been in repair of some sort, because previously, one of the modules was definitely defective. |
| 15:06.12 | com-0 | i'm connecting to a remote machine using ssh. usually running some application using '&', after finishing my work i logout. when i log in again how can i get handle of or bring these applications to foreground? |
| 15:06.22 | park_ | newbue doing apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in "Calculating upgrade ... Failed" The Following packages have unmet dependencies: kdelibs4-devb: ... unable to correct problems you have held broken packages - what do I do now? |
| 15:06.22 | antgel | !tell mchne about ig |
| 15:06.38 | antgel | park_: are you using stable? |
| 15:06.53 | antgel | !tell com-0 about screen |
| 15:06.57 | park_ | unstable |
| 15:07.02 | antgel | com-0: i *think* screen can do it |
| 15:07.07 | Mardus | jnc: The computer is a 700MHz Celeron, so made around 2001 or so... What happens when the BIOS does choose the wrong FSB for the CPU? |
| 15:07.10 | park_ | upgrading to unstable |
| 15:07.25 | antgel | park_: then you should know what you are letting yourself in for |
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| 15:07.36 | com-0 | i know screen can manage things in one session, but what about different sessions |
| 15:07.46 | jnc | Mardus: doom. DOOOOOOOOOOMMMMM |
| 15:07.54 | Mardus | jnc: In particular...? |
| 15:07.55 | jnc | do you understand, DOoooOOoom. |
| 15:07.58 | tarzeau | com-0: screen -ls |
| 15:08.09 | park_ | just following direrctions in "Knoppix Hacks" book |
| 15:08.23 | antgel | park_: you have got to be fucking joking |
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| 15:09.13 | Mardus | jnc: Well, it apparently seems that before being taken into repair, that machine did have bad RAM, after that -- I don't know, because I haven't tested the RAM with both modules inside simultaneously. |
| 15:09.13 | com-0 | tarzeau: i tried that, but when i try to logout from the earlier (using exit command) i was forced to exit screen first then logout! |
| 15:09.33 | Wyzard | park_: You're saying that a book about Knoppix is advising newbies to run Debian Unstable? |
| 15:09.39 | Mardus | tarzeau: I remember you're from Finland. |
| 15:09.44 | jnc | Mardus: so what are you waiting for? go test it |
| 15:09.58 | jnc | yeesh |
| 15:10.00 | antgel | Wyzard: a hard disk install of knoppix *is* debian unstable. oh the humanity |
| 15:10.03 | mchne | antgel, as far as I could tell that doesn't explain how to do it using windows as a server |
| 15:10.20 | Wyzard | hehe |
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| 15:10.20 | stew | "knoppix hacks your system to pieces" was the complete working title |
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| 15:10.20 | jnc | i run memtest86 on any x86 computer that i've never used before |
| 15:10.46 | Mardus | jnc: I do too, once I first get the computer under my control, |
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| 15:10.48 | Mardus | . |
| 15:11.04 | park_ | Yes |
| 15:11.07 | jnc | this is not #internethelpdesk :) |
| 15:11.36 | Wyzard | park_: Then you should disregard that book |
| 15:11.40 | Wyzard | park_: and ask in #knoppix |
| 15:11.41 | Mardus | jnc: It's almost OT, because the machine is not mine and has that other OS in it, which keeps restarting. The manufacturer's website refers to bad capacitors on the motherboard, that are at fault for these restarts and if not restarts, then BSoDs. |
| 15:11.51 | park_ | Thanks |
| 15:11.54 | antgel | i can't believe there's a book on knoppix |
| 15:12.16 | jnc | omfgwtfbookonknoppix |
| 15:12.18 | park_ | Knoppix Hacks by Kyle Ranking |
| 15:12.25 | DevilChaos | elightenment doesnt show up on the drop down menu in gdm anyone know why? |
| 15:12.37 | tarzeau | Mardus: no i'm from turkey |
| 15:12.48 | jnc | DevilChaos: e expects the enlightenment display manager |
| 15:12.50 | jnc | not gdm |
| 15:12.56 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 15:12.56 | tarzeau | com-0: learn screen then, it has a manual |
| 15:13.01 | DevilChaos | ty |
| 15:13.07 | eheil | Debian is a excellent distro--whats this talka bout it hacking your system to peices? |
| 15:13.12 | eheil | Knoppix I mean. |
| 15:13.12 | Mardus | tarzeau: I remember someone here being from Finland, but, with t in their first name... I can also check my past e-mail correspondence, too. |
| 15:13.21 | antgel | eheil: don't troll please |
| 15:13.41 | Mardus | tarzeau: ...but t as the first character of their nick. |
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| 15:14.07 | com-0 | okay okay okay ... |
| 15:14.37 | Mardus | I wish to stay for more, but I need to run some errands first. It's been a long time not being here. |
| 15:14.43 | jnc | are there any iptables gurus in the house? |
| 15:14.45 | Mardus | drat |
| 15:14.48 | eheil | Sorry about that. I wasn't intending to troll. |
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| 15:15.06 | stew | jnc: what enligtenment display manager? |
| 15:15.29 | jnc | stew: i'm pretty sure there was an edm |
| 15:15.41 | jnc | stew: i used it on an embedded linux device |
| 15:15.53 | stew | jnc: do you have a url? |
| 15:16.02 | jnc | google-for-it.com? |
| 15:16.12 | stew | jnc: nope |
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| 15:16.30 | DevilChaos | jnc:what is the login manager called for enlightenment? |
| 15:16.34 | stew | DevilChaos: there isn't one |
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| 15:16.43 | DevilChaos | doh |
| 15:16.47 | kneet | stew - well - there's entrance |
| 15:16.59 | jimr | stew: woody or sarge? Frankly, I don't know - I just went to the Debian site and downloaded what I thought was the most recent build - sarge? How can I determine? |
| 15:17.09 | DevilChaos | so how do i get into enilightenment if i cant get in through gdm xdm ? |
| 15:17.09 | kneet | stew, but that's e17 |
| 15:17.24 | jnc | what kneet says |
| 15:17.27 | kneet | DevilChaos, I use it via xdm and my .xclients |
| 15:17.34 | jnc | i knew i wasn't making shit up, sorry about the confusion |
| 15:17.34 | DevilChaos | etch id newist under testing |
| 15:17.38 | stew | jimr: if you ended up with 2.2.20-idepci it must be at least 3 years old |
| 15:17.39 | jnc | entrance was the name |
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| 15:18.01 | kneet | DevilChaos, sorry - came in late here - are you looking at e16 or the alpha e17 ? |
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| 15:18.15 | DevilChaos | hold on |
| 15:18.25 | stew | jnc: i don't know why you would assume that by enlitenment he meant the not yet release nor the not yet pakcaged for debian version, e17 instead of the the packaged, released version |
| 15:18.28 | kneet | If e17 then you've had to change your apt sources to find it |
| 15:18.43 | kneet | stew, I nearly made the same assumption :/ |
| 15:19.00 | jimr | stew: OK, I'll research the upgrade to something newer. That's supposed to be the beauty of Linux, huh? Guess we'll see... |
| 15:19.01 | DevilChaos | 0.16.7.2-1 |
| 15:19.09 | stew | jimr: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 15:19.18 | stew | jimr: what cpu is it running? |
| 15:19.28 | jimr | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:19.32 | kneet | OK. Then - if you're using xdm - then all you need as the last line of your ~/.xclients file is exec /usr/bin/enlightenment |
| 15:19.38 | kneet | gdm I can't help you with I'm afraid |
| 15:20.01 | DevilChaos | thats ok i just want to try it out |
| 15:20.03 | stew | jimr: you should apt-get install kernel-image-2.4 before you upgrade from woody->sarge however. when it talks about initrd during the kernel upgrade you need to pay attention |
| 15:20.11 | jimr | stew: P2 - 400mhz |
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| 15:20.25 | stew | jimr: then you can apt-get install kernel-image-2.4-686 instead |
| 15:20.43 | tarzeau | anyone else also wants to try with me? http://ftp.gnuab.org/pub/debian-cd/current/hurd-i386/debian-K10-hurd-i386-mini.iso |
| 15:20.56 | DevilChaos | kernal 2.6 is better than 2.4 though |
| 15:21.02 | tarzeau | !kernal |
| 15:21.02 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 15:21.02 | DevilChaos | stew? |
| 15:21.05 | antgel | tarzeau: if you supply some hardware :P |
| 15:21.07 | DevilChaos | oops |
| 15:21.14 | stew | DevilChaos: he's running potato or woody, not sarge. |
| 15:21.27 | jnc | stew: my mistake. |
| 15:21.38 | DevilChaos | oh |
| 15:21.40 | tarzeau | antgel: dual/triple boot? |
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| 15:21.49 | stew | DevilChaos: he's currently got 2.2.20-idepci which is a woody installer kernel |
| 15:21.59 | antgel | tarzeau: nah. can't be bothered for all that |
| 15:22.16 | DevilChaos | id just backup and do a full net install itr would be quicker if he has a broadband connection |
| 15:22.17 | stew | DevilChaos: which means the system he's running is a woody system where the install was never finished |
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| 15:22.35 | DevilChaos | to sarge stable |
| 15:22.50 | su_exec | in debian ./ isnt workin in my amd64 install what package did i forget ? |
| 15:23.01 | jimr | if he has a broadband connection - I do |
| 15:23.09 | azeem | su_exec: what is ./ ? |
| 15:23.27 | su_exec | well like execute ./sc_serv |
| 15:23.28 | DevilChaos | ok do you have alot you want to keep? |
| 15:23.46 | azeem | su_exec: what happens? |
| 15:23.47 | DevilChaos | jimr:? |
| 15:23.49 | stew | DevilChaos: why do you think that a reinstall is better than /msg dpkg woody->sarge? |
| 15:23.57 | su_exec | it sais no such directorie |
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| 15:24.15 | azeem | su_exec: is it executable? |
| 15:24.19 | Azar | I need help with X is loading at bootup and apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm does not do its job |
| 15:24.21 | su_exec | yes |
| 15:24.28 | jimr | he's currently got 2.2.20-idepci which is a woody installer kernel OK, that's the answer. I booted the machine from an old CD I made awhile back. I guess it installed that kernal |
| 15:24.28 | DevilChaos | just thought hed get a sys in quick rather than upgrading then have to do it again |
| 15:24.36 | Azar | I need to but in terminal mode.. |
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| 15:25.35 | DevilChaos | stew:? |
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| 15:25.42 | DevilChaos | jimr what type of graphics card do you have? |
| 15:26.30 | eleftherios | hm, lsusb shows there's my printer connected (HP LaserJet 1320) but when I try to print a test page from cups I get: Unable to open USB device "usb:/dev/usb/lp0": No such device" . Any pointers please? |
| 15:26.40 | Azar | ..... |
| 15:26.55 | Lilldude10 | i ettited x86 config to stop nvida splash sceen |
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| 15:27.11 | Lilldude10 | no i says dont have permisson to make changes what i doo? |
| 15:27.18 | jimr | DevilChaos: it's at ATI - don't know model ID |
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| 15:27.38 | DevilChaos | jimr:ok sarge stable |
| 15:28.04 | Azar | question: how can I stop X from loading at bootup? |
| 15:28.04 | DevilChaos | because mine is an ati and xorg doesnt work for mine as yet |
| 15:28.12 | antgel | eleftherios: ls -l /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 15:28.18 | jimr | so is the consensus the woody > sarge instructions from dpkg? |
| 15:28.23 | stew | DevilChaos: xorg and xfree have virtually the same drivers for ati |
| 15:28.41 | DevilChaos | i have installed testing with xorg and it went in then when i rebooted it broke |
| 15:29.07 | DevilChaos | somehow xfree is working while xorg doesnt |
| 15:29.07 | stew | jimr: yeah, and i'd recommend a 2.4 kernel before you start. take note that using aptitude for the upgrade as it says in the factoid is essential |
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| 15:29.39 | DevilChaos | sorry stew i really shoud let you help |
| 15:29.51 | DevilChaos | jimr listen to stew |
| 15:30.23 | eleftherios | antgel, crw-rw---- 1 root lp 180, 0 2005-01-21 07:33 /dev/usb/lp0 |
| 15:30.41 | antgel | eleftherios: ps aux |grep cups? |
| 15:30.48 | DevilChaos | why does he have to use 2.4 stew i know he has woody |
| 15:30.52 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 15:30.58 | jimr | listen to stew... OK, time for a little research I guess - thanks! |
| 15:31.11 | stew | jimr: and watch out, as I said before, you will need to alter your lilo.conf when you install the new kernel since the 2.2.20-idepci doesn't use an initrd |
| 15:31.18 | eleftherios | antgel, yes, cups is running |
| 15:31.25 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 15:31.26 | antgel | eleftherios: as what user? |
| 15:31.35 | antgel | eleftherios: hence ps aux |
| 15:31.35 | jimr | stew: got it - thanks! |
| 15:31.45 | eleftherios | antgel, as root: root 22589 0.5 0.8 9068 4556 ? Ss 16:48 0:12 /usr/sbin/cupsd |
| 15:32.01 | eleftherios | antgel, so it is not a matter of permissions I guess :/ |
| 15:32.20 | antgel | eleftherios: seems not. i'm out of ideas |
| 15:32.34 | eleftherios | antgel, also, if it was a matter of permissions I wouldn't get the message "no such device", would I? |
| 15:32.35 | stew | DevilChaos: he's using a cripled kernel with very little hardware support that was only meant for getting a base system installed. so hardware detection / x setup is less likely to go as smothly when he upgrades |
| 15:32.43 | eleftherios | antgel, thank you though :-) |
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| 15:33.41 | DevilChaos | yeah so all the more point in complete install wipe it clean start again |
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| 15:34.25 | DevilChaos | he ahs broadband i was up and running in 45 minutes with net installer on 2.6 |
| 15:34.28 | DevilChaos | has |
| 15:34.33 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
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| 15:36.15 | stew | DevilChaos: with an upgrade he doesn't have to redo configuration or package selection |
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| 15:37.20 | cees | how can I change the character encoding on my desktop? |
| 15:37.26 | Azar | how do I stop X from loading at startup? |
| 15:37.34 | stew | Azar: /msg dpkg nodm |
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| 15:37.39 | stew | cees: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:37.41 | Azar | thanks |
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| 15:38.15 | DevilChaos | i see stew |
| 15:38.40 | DevilChaos | i cant use xorg |
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| 15:38.48 | DevilChaos | only xfree |
| 15:38.55 | stew | DevilChaos: what version of debian? |
| 15:39.01 | DevilChaos | it just wont work i tryed 12 times |
| 15:39.05 | stew | DevilChaos: what is the problem you are getting with xorg? |
| 15:39.24 | DevilChaos | silly questions whats the command for to see kernal version? |
| 15:39.28 | stew | DevilChaos: have you looked in Xorg.0.log for lines starting with EE? |
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| 15:39.30 | stew | DevilChaos: uname -r |
| 15:39.43 | cees | in xfce4 I cant see preview images in File manage, what can I do |
| 15:39.50 | DevilChaos | i get it ok when i install as soon as i reboot it brakes |
| 15:40.10 | DevilChaos | 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 15:40.33 | DevilChaos | yeah tryed but dont know |
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| 15:40.58 | stew | DevilChaos: which driver did you select? |
| 15:41.06 | stew | DevilChaos: and what chipset is on the videocard? |
| 15:41.15 | eleftherios | antgel, problem solved, it was a matter of restarting hotplug and cupsys (because I plugged the printer after boot I guess) |
| 15:41.19 | DevilChaos | but ill bet you it would work with my voodoo3 card but my girlfriend has pincched it from me |
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| 15:41.40 | DevilChaos | i did auto to start with |
| 15:41.51 | DevilChaos | then when i get into trouble |
| 15:41.54 | DevilChaos | ati |
| 15:42.09 | DevilChaos | its a radeon ati 128 rage pro |
| 15:42.16 | stew | DevilChaos: use the radeon driver |
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| 15:42.31 | clojster | how can I add artwiz fonts to defoma (xfs) |
| 15:42.40 | DevilChaos | which one is radeon or is thast the title |
| 15:42.53 | stew | DevilChaos: what *exactly* happens when you boot? blank screen? flashes a few times and puts you into console? |
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| 15:42.59 | stew | DevilChaos: its called "radeon" |
| 15:43.09 | DevilChaos | yeah flashes then puts me into console |
| 15:43.10 | cees | When I print with Samba in a Windows printer, the processor takes the 100%, and the fan starts. The temp is over the CPU limit (50º) is this ok?. Debian testing ppc on Ibook G4 |
| 15:43.17 | thingfish | clojster: dropping them into ~/.fonts works for me. |
| 15:43.26 | DevilChaos | yeah there is no option for radeon |
| 15:43.27 | antgel | eleftherios: i've had problems with hotplug. doesn't set correct perms for my usb scanner on boot. glad it works |
| 15:43.40 | DevilChaos | in the menu of drivers i get |
| 15:43.55 | clojster | thingfish: unpack them all into ~/.fonts, or make a subdir inthere? |
| 15:44.24 | thingfish | clojster: no subdir, just unpack the fonts into the dir. |
| 15:44.31 | eleftherios | antgel, now I have to make the sound work. It was working fine untill I had the fine idea to run alsaconf (thinking that using Alsa would improve sound quality) |
| 15:44.31 | clojster | ok |
| 15:44.48 | stew | DevilChaos: hmm, i don't now why radeon doesn't show up in that menu. it means you might have to alter the config file by hand to use it |
| 15:44.58 | stew | i should maybe file a bug on that one |
| 15:45.08 | su_exec | isnt the amd64 debian able to exexute 32bit executables? |
| 15:45.21 | DevilChaos | ok so i just type radeon in the config under driver then? |
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| 15:45.27 | antgel | eleftherios: that'll teach you to fix things that aren't broke :) just modprobe the snd-whatever modules and make sure your mixer's turned up |
| 15:45.34 | PerfDave | su_exec: Yes, but it doesn't have 32-bit libraries so dynamically linked 32-bit executables often fail. |
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| 15:45.53 | su_exec | ahh is there a fix ? |
| 15:46.00 | eleftherios | antgel, for sure :-) I don't know which modules to modprode |
| 15:46.08 | DevilChaos | afk back in 2 mins |
| 15:46.15 | antgel | eleftherios: the alsa docs do :) |
| 15:46.32 | PerfDave | su_exec: Running an ia32 chroot is the "standard" way of dealing with it, it's pretty simple. |
| 15:46.48 | PerfDave | su_exec: #debian-amd64 will be of more help with whatever specific problem you're having. |
| 15:47.00 | su_exec | ahh thnx PerfDave |
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| 15:47.19 | DevilChaos | stew: do i just type radeon as the driver in the config file then? |
| 15:47.21 | eleftherios | antgel, I have removed alsa. lsmod | grep snd gives me: snd & soundcore |
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| 15:50.28 | valdyn | eleftherios: which debian release are you on? |
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| 15:50.54 | stew | DevilChaos: id give that a shot. but before you bother, you should tell us what the actual error you are getting is. try this, log in to the console, and type startx, tell us if there are errors there or if not, look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log and tell us about lines starting with EE |
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| 15:51.30 | antgel | !stx |
| 15:51.30 | dpkg | hmm... stx is l33t |
| 15:51.37 | clojster | thingfish: and how can i restart xft to have them enabled? |
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| 15:52.06 | clojster | thingfish: also they are .pcf fonts... that really woks? |
| 15:52.08 | valdyn | clojster: you cant restart that |
| 15:52.10 | Reilithion | !l33t |
| 15:52.10 | dpkg | Plz uze #debian-l33t 4 hlp in l33t !! U wud get m0re helpz their !!! lol L33t speakers, please use #debian-l33t for help in the l33t dialect. You will get much more help there. |
| 15:52.29 | Reilithion | lol |
| 15:52.29 | clojster | valdyn: oh... xfs |
| 15:52.40 | eleftherios | valdyn, I am on Etch |
| 15:52.40 | thingfish | clojster: that I don't know about. |
| 15:52.53 | roadfish | I'm recording some audio with my soundcard line-in but "arecord" sometimes reports "overrun!!!". I did a nice "nice -n -19 arecord ..." but I still get overrun. Is there some way to give real-time override to a process? |
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| 15:52.56 | DevilChaos | stew im running xfree remember not xorg at the moment till i get another G-card |
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| 15:52.57 | clojster | thingfish: I have few ttf fonts that works..., but pcf? |
| 15:53.04 | thingfish | clojster: I don't know how defoma handles that type of font. |
| 15:53.04 | valdyn | eleftherios: switch sound system in etch is 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base' ( install it if you havent ) |
| 15:53.08 | Wilotas | hi, someone uses vncserver? |
| 15:53.18 | eleftherios | valdyn, I have already tried that :-( |
| 15:53.32 | clojster | thingfish: and what type of artwiz do you have there? (ttf)?? |
| 15:53.32 | DevilChaos | stew: so i cant upgrade to testing and testing packages till then |
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| 15:54.13 | thingfish | clojster: I don't have artwiz fonts specifically - I just assumed they were truetype and would behave as all other truetype fonts. |
| 15:54.21 | eleftherios | valdyn, I have removed alsa and used this to switch to OSS (which I assume was what got installed by default when I first installed debian on this system) |
| 15:54.30 | clojster | thingfish: oh... I see |
| 15:55.18 | valdyn | eleftherios: yea |
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| 15:55.20 | Reilithion | lol! #debian-l33t is emptier than /dev/null |
| 15:55.21 | clojster | so there is the same question again...: how can I add artwiz fonts to defoma (xfs)? |
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| 15:55.39 | eleftherios | valdyn, but no luck |
| 15:55.45 | xiaogil | Is it good english to say "Apart from that..." in a letter ? |
| 15:55.54 | roadfish | can a Debian process get realtime priority? |
| 15:56.00 | Reilithion | xiaogil, I'd use "aside from that" myself |
| 15:56.11 | xiaogil | okay, good, i'll use that |
| 15:56.16 | Reilithion | but I can't think of any rules forbidding what you said |
| 15:56.18 | PerfDave | roadfish: What do you mean by "realtime priority"? |
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| 15:56.25 | valdyn | eleftherios: apt-get remove --purge alsa-base |
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| 15:56.41 | eleftherios | xiaogil, most important is to use language that is simple, clear and that you understand yourself :-) |
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| 15:56.54 | Reilithion | Kudos, eleftherios |
| 15:56.54 | xiaogil | Reilithion: okay, i have the equivalent of both in french, yours look a little bit better |
| 15:57.00 | PerfDave | roadfish: You can use renice to alter priorities (as root) |
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| 15:57.15 | eleftherios | valdyn, Package alsa-base is not installed, so not removed |
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| 15:57.30 | valdyn | eleftherios: dpkg --purge alsa-base |
| 15:57.36 | valdyn | eleftherios: unless you purged that already |
| 15:57.45 | xiaogil | eleftherios: yes but that's for my ex girlfriend which is japanese and learning english in australia, i've to be careful ;) |
| 15:57.53 | valdyn | eleftherios: plain remove doesnt get what you want anyway |
| 15:58.26 | Reilithion | xiaogil, "I've to" is not standard english, fyi |
| 15:58.28 | valdyn | eleftherios: or might not, im not 100% sure what all changed from sarge, try anyway |
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| 15:58.55 | roadfish | PerfDave: does renice actually give a real-time override to a process? I already am using -19 and I am still getting "overrun" from my process. |
| 15:58.57 | eleftherios | valdyn, dpkg --purge alsa-base, dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove alsa-base which isn't installed. |
| 15:59.07 | helix | where can I change CUPS's papersize? |
| 15:59.13 | valdyn | eleftherios: ok, its completely gone then already, looks good |
| 15:59.19 | helix | it thinks I'm european |
| 15:59.23 | SlayerXP | helix: that's a per-printer option |
| 15:59.30 | eleftherios | valdyn, yes, that's the only part that looks good :-) |
| 15:59.31 | PerfDave | roadfish: There's no such thing as a "real-time override" in computing. Anyone who says different is lying ;) |
| 15:59.32 | petemc | helix: you can do it through the printer admin section of the web interface |
| 15:59.32 | valdyn | eleftherios: 'modprobe <sounddriver>' |
| 15:59.49 | eleftherios | valdyn, how do I find otu what's my sounddriver? |
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| 15:59.54 | helix | petemc: yes, that says letter too |
| 15:59.54 | eleftherios | s/otu/out |
| 15:59.59 | valdyn | eleftherios: what is your soundcard? |
| 16:00.01 | helix | but it's trying to print A4 for no apparent reason |
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| 16:00.16 | eleftherios | I have an intel builtin soundcard on the motherboard |
| 16:00.20 | roadfish | roadfish: by realtime, I mean that other processes absolutely can not override my process. sort of a 100% guarantee of priority. |
| 16:00.35 | Guerin | honestly |
| 16:00.35 | valdyn | eleftherios: try 'modprobe i810_audio |
| 16:00.45 | eleftherios | valdyn, ah yes, that's the one |
| 16:00.46 | stew | helix: /etc/papersize? |
| 16:00.48 | Guerin | there's no good reason NOT to use a4 as the default paper size |
| 16:00.57 | boyo-mat1 | what about snd_intel8x0 ? |
| 16:00.59 | helix | stew: I just said that was letter :) |
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| 16:01.05 | Guerin | all other default paper sizes are Just Stupid (TM) |
| 16:01.16 | valdyn | boyo-mat1: that is not what he wants, is an alsa driver |
| 16:01.24 | PerfDave | roadfish: Yes, there's no such thing :) Certainly not with a standard Linux kernel - research on google may help tell you about low-latency and high-priority interrupts on kernels, but it will probably involve some serious hacking and compiling. |
| 16:01.28 | boyo-mat1 | valdyn: oops, sorry... |
| 16:01.33 | eleftherios | valdyn, that gives me no output, meaning that it is loaded, correct? |
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| 16:01.44 | valdyn | eleftherios: yea, doesnt mean it will work though |
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| 16:01.56 | roadfish | PerfDave: ok, thanks |
| 16:01.56 | Wilotas | hi, someone uses vncserver? |
| 16:02.04 | Guerin | !anyone use vncserver |
| 16:02.05 | dpkg | No, no one uses vncserver, not even the people who use it. |
| 16:02.05 | Roey | !ask |
| 16:02.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 16:02.11 | Roey | Guerin: thanks |
| 16:02.13 | xiaogil | Reilithion: thanks |
| 16:02.19 | valdyn | eleftherios: you got udev installed? |
| 16:02.20 | Guerin | Roey: w3lc0m3 |
| 16:02.21 | PhoenixMan | Hi. Could anyone get me to a tutorial where I could setup my own mail server using Debian? Basically I just want e-mail sent to username@mydomain.com to be received. Also, I want to make certain usernames not be able to receive e-mail, or only receive e-mail from user@mydomain2.com and not user@mydomain.com. Any tutorials for this? |
| 16:02.28 | Roey | Guerin: heheh |
| 16:02.28 | Reilithion | np. |
| 16:02.36 | eleftherios | valdyn, let me check (audio is not playing by the way) |
| 16:02.41 | nostur | hi, at nb, i have eth1 and eth0, eth1 is wifi, and eth0 is ethernet, when i start deb, it automatically uses eth1, but i want to use the ethernet card, is there any way to change it? |
| 16:02.41 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config |
| 16:02.47 | petemc | PhoenixMan: pick an mta (exim is ok in my book) , read up on it |
| 16:02.57 | valdyn | eleftherios: ls /etc/modprobe.d/*alsa* |
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| 16:03.20 | petemc | Guerin: debconf driven exim is only good for non exotic configs, what he needs couldnt be done for example |
| 16:03.21 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: follow up with a strict course of RTFM for restricting mail to certain users |
| 16:03.35 | eleftherios | valdyn, I do not have udev installed because it removes hotplug. When hotplug gets removed AGP GART and usb devices don't get detected and loaded |
| 16:03.37 | Guerin | PhoenixMan: yeh |
| 16:03.42 | PerfDave | You can do some pretty hardcore things with debconf and exim |
| 16:03.43 | Guerin | petemc: yeh |
| 16:03.48 | valdyn | eleftherios: fine |
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| 16:04.05 | eleftherios | valdyn, I really don't know what's with udev and hotplug to be honest |
| 16:04.06 | nostur | can anyone answer me? |
| 16:04.08 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: There are some good tutorials on http://www.debian-administration.org/ |
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| 16:04.20 | antgel | !tell nostur about patience |
| 16:04.21 | PerfDave | nostur: No, nobody can read what you're typing. |
| 16:04.29 | nostur | heh |
| 16:04.42 | eleftherios | valdyn, ls: /etc/modprobe.d/*alsa*: No such file or directory |
| 16:04.44 | nostur | PerfDave: what about... looking up? |
| 16:04.48 | stew | nostur: man interfaces |
| 16:04.49 | valdyn | eleftherios: cd /etc/; find . -name '*alsa*' |
| 16:04.50 | antgel | PerfDave: that was such a dpkg answer :) |
| 16:04.55 | nostur | stew thx] |
| 16:05.01 | antgel | !tell nostur about thx |
| 16:05.05 | Reilithion | nostur, I concur with stew. man interfaces |
| 16:05.12 | valdyn | eleftherios: have you removed since you 'switched' to OSS btw? |
| 16:05.13 | antgel | i'm surprised kingsley's stats don't log bot-calls |
| 16:05.18 | PerfDave | nostur: What about... calming down |
| 16:05.18 | valdyn | eleftherios: have you rebooted since you 'switched' to OSS btw? |
| 16:05.18 | eleftherios | valdyn, no output from that |
| 16:05.22 | antgel | or booty-shakes |
| 16:05.26 | nostur | !tell antgel about stfu |
| 16:05.31 | Roey | antgel: hi |
| 16:05.35 | eleftherios | valdyn, I am not sure I have. I though rebooting was a windows thing |
| 16:05.36 | tvn | can someone tell me how to achieve this goal -> for singlefile in LogDir/*.log ; do ls -l singlefile ; done |
| 16:05.48 | antgel | Roey: yoyoyoyo |
| 16:05.59 | eleftherios | valdyn, but if that's what it takes to get sound working I will do it :-) |
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| 16:06.07 | Reilithion | !tell nostur about interfaces |
| 16:06.15 | valdyn | eleftherios: having to reboot is, but rebooting is alot easier if you have no idea which individual things you have to restart |
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| 16:06.30 | valdyn | eleftherios: snd shouldnt be loaded |
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| 16:06.44 | eleftherios | valdyn, in this particular case do you know what needs to be restarted? |
| 16:06.49 | valdyn | eleftherios: if i recall correctly, soundcore is used by both though, or vice versa |
| 16:06.56 | valdyn | eleftherios: so to figure this out its easy to reboot |
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| 16:07.13 | eleftherios | valdyn, ok, I will accept fate blindly and reboot |
| 16:07.15 | PerfDave | nostur: /msg dpkg ifrename |
| 16:07.21 | valdyn | eleftherios: ok,modprobe -r snd and modprobe -r soundcore |
| 16:07.33 | eleftherios | valdyn, let's try that |
| 16:07.47 | valdyn | eleftherios: then modrobe -r i810_audio, check if you have _Any_ other sound module loaded, then 'modprobe i810_audio' |
| 16:08.17 | eleftherios | valdyn, modprobe -r soundcore => FATAL: Module soundcore is in use. |
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| 16:08.27 | eleftherios | valdyn, modprobe -r snd gave me no output |
| 16:08.36 | Reilithion | Does anyone else here get the compulsive desire to download the Internet and save it to their miniscule hard drive? |
| 16:08.37 | valdyn | eleftherios: no output is good |
| 16:09.07 | eleftherios | valdyn, modprobe -r i810_audio => FATAL: Module i810_audio is in use. |
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| 16:09.13 | Eulex | hey, this thing's great: http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
| 16:09.31 | valdyn | eleftherios: ehe, you're still playing back something? |
| 16:09.41 | valdyn | eleftherios: or have a mixer open or somesuch |
| 16:09.45 | eleftherios | oh, the mpd server is running! |
| 16:09.53 | eleftherios | valdyn, I'll stop that |
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| 16:09.59 | Eulex | for linux newbies who want to find out if their hardware is supported, that is |
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| 16:10.30 | eleftherios | valdyn, ok, now modprobe -r i810_audio gives me no output |
| 16:10.36 | Reilithion | Eulex, hey, that is good |
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| 16:10.53 | Wille88 | what this means: http://pastebin.ca/33100 |
| 16:11.10 | Wille88 | debian unstable |
| 16:11.22 | valdyn | Eulex: neat, hwinfo does that too i think |
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| 16:11.33 | eleftherios | Eulex, great link :-) |
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| 16:12.14 | Reilithion | Eulex, I don't see the madwifi driver anywhere on there, but I see ath_pci. Any idea of those two drivers serve the same purpose? |
| 16:12.35 | valdyn | eleftherios: are all removed? or is soundcore still used? |
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| 16:12.56 | eleftherios | valdyn, I am listening to some music now! |
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| 16:13.03 | timopr | I suffered a crash on my box recently, i have checked messages, debug and syslog in /var/log...anything I can do to check what caused this crash? |
| 16:13.09 | eleftherios | valdyn, *thank you* |
| 16:13.27 | nostur | exit |
| 16:13.31 | nostur | oops sorry |
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| 16:13.37 | rking | is it possible to pre-filter /dev/dsp-as-output? that is, i have a legacy app that uses OSS, and i'd like to be able to "trick" it when it reads /dev/dsp |
| 16:13.40 | Eulex | Reilithion, I dunno. never had any card that used any of those cards. |
| 16:13.40 | Rawplayer | MI |
| 16:13.45 | eleftherios | valdyn, I'll go get a pair of speaker to celebrate it now :-) |
| 16:13.54 | nostur | !tell all bye |
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| 16:14.02 | rking | i guess i could always get another physical sound card and connect its output to the other card's input |
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| 16:14.21 | PhoenixMan | ? |
| 16:14.39 | valdyn | rking: you can probably use a fifo for that |
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| 16:15.05 | valdyn | rking: though.. i havent tried that mysel |
| 16:15.15 | Reilithion | guess I have some reading to do |
| 16:15.27 | rking | valdyn: aha! interesting concept... yes, i bet that would work. |
| 16:15.39 | rking | valdyn: unless the apps do some kind of crazy ioctl()'s on it |
| 16:15.49 | valdyn | rking: yep |
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| 16:17.21 | kartoo | i get an Informational artsmessage saying that there is an error initialising my sound driver. |
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| 16:17.39 | Reilithion | Where can I read about Debian decision to not include libdvdcss or libcss? |
| 16:17.51 | kartoo | it says device /dev/dsp cant be opened(Permission denied). The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
| 16:18.08 | valdyn | dpkg: whatdriver is Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver you need for your device. |
| 16:18.09 | dpkg | okay, valdyn |
| 16:18.10 | kartoo | what should i do to get my souncard to work? |
| 16:18.16 | valdyn | !whatdriver |
| 16:18.16 | dpkg | well, whatdriver is Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver you need for your device. |
| 16:18.50 | PerfDave | Reilithion: /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian |
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| 16:19.00 | Reilithion | thanks, PerfDave |
| 16:19.05 | Estes2 | kartoo, i just take this discuss on the fly, i'm not if it has been asked.... does it works as root ? are you in the audio group ?\ |
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| 16:19.51 | Reilithion | PerfDave, /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/README.Debian: No such file or directory |
| 16:20.08 | PerfDave | !installit |
| 16:20.08 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 16:20.46 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:21.03 | m1ll3` | hello. i've got a problem concerning pcmcia-ethernet and the ifup script launched on bootup |
| 16:21.48 | m1ll3` | first pcnet_cs is modprobed, then the script tries to bring eth0 up which fails, because pcmcia is started afterwards |
| 16:21.58 | m1ll3` | how can i change this order. i think thats the problem |
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| 16:22.33 | petemc | m1ll3`: dont use "auto" in interfaces? |
| 16:22.46 | Eulex | valdyn, great :) |
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| 16:22.49 | Bushito | help... configure:1985: error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool |
| 16:23.14 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:23.27 | Eulex | Bushito, apt-get install libxml-sax-expat-perl |
| 16:23.31 | m1ll3` | petemc: auto eth0 is in my /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:23.44 | Estes2 | kartoo: adduser your_user audio then logout and login back, it should works |
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| 16:24.11 | Bushito | Eulex: thx |
| 16:24.20 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.23 | m1ll3` | if i bring eth0 up manually after the boot process everything works fine. it's just the order |
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| 16:24.58 | petemc | m1ll3`: i remember that from years ago, i dont remember what the fix was, and sort of assumed it would be fixed by now, try googling |
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| 16:26.34 | tuomas_ | when apt-get says that package has no installation candidate but is referred to by another package. how do i know what to install? |
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| 16:27.54 | Eulex | tuomas_, apt-cache search for it |
| 16:28.06 | tuomas_ | Eulex: i did it already and didnt find |
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| 16:28.44 | Eulex | tuomas_, what package? |
| 16:28.48 | Reilithion | PerfDave, that's pretty brief. Is there anything longer? I wish to understand the reasoning behind the decision, and "legal problems" doesn't tell me much at all. |
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| 16:29.07 | plazarius | is there a way to increase the mouse sensitivity in xorg using the xorg.conf file? I am using the nipple thing on my laptop and that is fine but when I plug in a ps/2 mouse it works but is much less responsive. Like the refresh rate on the PS/2 bus for the mouse is much slower. |
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| 16:30.52 | tuomas_ | Eulex: opera browser |
| 16:30.53 | kartoo | even after adding my user to the audio group, it doesn't work |
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| 16:31.14 | Estes2 | kartoo, logged out and logged back in ? |
| 16:31.27 | Estes2 | kartoo, and you are sure it works as root ? |
| 16:31.28 | Eulex | tuomas_, it's in non-free... |
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| 16:31.49 | kartoo | Estes2: even after adding my user to the audio group, it doesn't work |
| 16:31.52 | Reilithion | eeeeeww! non-free! |
| 16:31.58 | kartoo | ya estes2 |
| 16:32.07 | Estes2 | kartoo, you don't answer my question |
| 16:32.19 | Estes2 | kartoo, you have loged out and logged back in ? |
| 16:32.30 | Estes2 | if you don't it won't work |
| 16:32.30 | kartoo | yes i tried to play a song with xmms by starting it from terminal as root estes2 |
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| 16:32.35 | kartoo | it worked |
| 16:32.44 | QwErTzz | how do I declare subinterfaces ? |
| 16:32.45 | Estes2 | so it hould work |
| 16:32.59 | Estes2 | kartoo, did you or not logged out and logged back in ? |
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| 16:33.03 | Reilithion | which reminds me. any word on when the free unrar package will be ready for testing? |
| 16:33.08 | petemc | QwErTzz: aliases? same as normal |
| 16:33.12 | Estes2 | from you r graphical environnement |
| 16:33.14 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:33.17 | tuomas_ | Eulex: i added non-free lines to mu sources but still the same issue |
| 16:33.22 | Estes2 | hum |
| 16:33.46 | PhoenixMan | Ok I just typed "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" because you guys said so and followed it's instructions... what happened now? Is my mail server setup? Will it receive e-mail sent to root@mydomain.com and myusername@mydomain.com? |
| 16:33.46 | tuomas_ | Eulex: and did apt-get update |
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| 16:33.51 | QwErTzz | i mean subinterface in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:34.17 | kartoo | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:34.19 | Estes2 | kartoo, dono then, requires investigation, check your rights |
| 16:34.26 | Estes2 | and check your xmms config |
| 16:34.29 | Estes2 | i got to go |
| 16:34.33 | Estes2 | my boss got by |
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| 16:34.39 | kartoo | bye |
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| 16:34.50 | Reilithion | take care, Estes2 |
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| 16:35.06 | sdschulze | How do I examine which process writes on the HD all the time and prevents it from spinning down? |
| 16:35.22 | tuomas_ | top, ps, lsof ? |
| 16:35.25 | plazarius | I think lsof will show you the open files |
| 16:35.35 | knight | hello friends |
| 16:35.59 | plazarius | anyone know how to speed up the ps/2 mouse in x? |
| 16:36.28 | knight | I am still strugling with network driver setup in debian.. I really need help.. google just gave points here and there but didn't really help my problem |
| 16:36.49 | sdschulze | Until I have compared the timestamp of all files, the old files will have been touched themselves. |
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| 16:37.15 | Reilithion | sdschulze, I dunno, but you could always just turn on the no spin demon |
| 16:37.16 | PhoenixMan | Ok I just typed "dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config" because you guys said so and followed it's instructions... what happened now? Is my mail server setup? Will it receive e-mail sent to root@mydomain.com and myusername@mydomain.com? |
| 16:37.39 | PhoenixMan | It says it can't find the server on port 110 or whatever the default port it. |
| 16:37.40 | PhoenixMan | is* |
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| 16:37.56 | petemc | PhoenixMan: debconf cant set up dns for you... |
| 16:38.00 | antgel | plazarius: move it faster |
| 16:38.02 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: 110 is not smtp |
| 16:38.03 | stazich | hi, can anyone tell me how to change my resolution in debian?? |
| 16:38.08 | sdschulze | Reilithion: noflushd? |
| 16:38.11 | antgel | !tell stazich about drxx |
| 16:38.14 | tarzeau | stazich: fb or x? |
| 16:38.18 | stazich | x |
| 16:38.21 | PhoenixMan | I need POP3.. |
| 16:38.22 | knight | setup is finished but I still cannot even ping my router/modem |
| 16:38.23 | PhoenixMan | <_< |
| 16:38.28 | plazarius | antgel, :) |
| 16:38.29 | plazarius | nice |
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| 16:38.35 | PhoenixMan | I want to RECEIVE e-mail. |
| 16:38.37 | PhoenixMan | ANd send it I guess. |
| 16:38.43 | jazzmanss | how do I configure vncserver to use a different WM then the default? i.e. kde is the default wm, but for the user I use to log into a machine I'd rather use xfce4. |
| 16:38.52 | plazarius | I don't really mean the speed of the mouse so much as the fluidity of it. I mean to increase the update rate. or the rate at which it samples input from the bus. |
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| 16:39.01 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: so if you need a pop3 server, why dont you install one |
| 16:39.06 | PhoenixMan | ? |
| 16:39.12 | valdyn | !pop3 |
| 16:39.12 | dpkg | POP3 is a really pesky way to get email, especially if you have lots of it. An evil thing most people on the internet are stuck with whether they like it or not. See <fetchmail>. telnet your.pop3.server.org pop3 |tee -a mymails; user foo; pass ****; list; retr 1; dele 1; quit. Also see RFC1939 |
| 16:39.14 | valdyn | !smtp |
| 16:39.14 | dpkg | [smtp] simple mail transport protocol. rfc2821, or port 25 |
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| 16:39.25 | antgel | plazarius: perhaps you mean mouse acceleration |
| 16:39.31 | plazarius | hmmm I don't think so. |
| 16:39.41 | PhoenixMan | Soooooo any recommendations? |
| 16:39.41 | tuomas_ | use imap! |
| 16:39.43 | tuomas_ | !imap |
| 16:39.44 | dpkg | well, imap is (rfc2060) a protocol allowing a client to access and manipulate electronic mail messages on a server. It permits manipulation of remote message folders (mailboxes), in a way that is functionally equivalent to local mailboxes. IMAP includes operations for creating, deleting, and renaming mailboxes; checking for new messages; permanently removing messages; searching; and selective fetching of message attributes, texts, and portions thereof. |
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| 16:39.55 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: apt-cache search pop3 server? |
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| 16:40.08 | plazarius | if I plug the mouse into the usb port it is smooth as silk. |
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| 16:40.31 | plazarius | if I use the PS/2 port it is discontinuous.. .like it is only sampling the input about 40 times/second or something low. |
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| 16:40.52 | plazarius | but I only have one USB port on this laptop so I am trying to use the mouse on PS/2 |
| 16:40.54 | dusty- | whats the latest release? |
| 16:40.56 | PhoenixMan | And umm |
| 16:41.05 | antgel | plazarius: maybe it's interrupt-sharing, hardware problem, etc |
| 16:41.35 | rox | what do you guys use for webcams? |
| 16:41.36 | PhoenixMan | What about "fetchmail". Is this okay? |
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| 16:41.40 | plazarius | according to "cat /proc/interrupts" there dont' seem to be any. |
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| 16:41.49 | antgel | rox: webcams |
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| 16:41.55 | plazarius | I think there must be a setting somewhere in xorg.conf or something. but I don't know where. |
| 16:42.05 | rox | antgel: i ment software you use with webcams |
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| 16:42.17 | antgel | !tell rox about polls |
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| 16:42.27 | antgel | !tell rox about search |
| 16:42.37 | knight | I checked /etc/network/interfaces /etc/resolve.conf and both are ok |
| 16:42.53 | dusty- | Is sarge rc3 the latest release? |
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| 16:43.02 | plazarius | knight do you actually have a working loaded kernel module for your network interface card? |
| 16:43.09 | antgel | knight: dmesg |grep eth |
| 16:43.10 | thingfish | dusty-: sarge 3.1r0a |
| 16:43.15 | knight | ifconfig shows eth0 up and running |
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| 16:43.18 | plazarius | ah |
| 16:43.36 | Nwallins | i am running sarge, but installed svn from testing to get the 1.2.x version. should i install libapache2-svn from testing as well? |
| 16:43.36 | rox | antgel: don't dumbshit me, please ... i searched the official repository, i've seareched the web and i couldn't find a program that would get images from my webcam, apart from sonic-snap, which takes bad images |
| 16:43.50 | tonix | hy guys, i just configured an atheros wireless card on debian firewall. the card works as access point and seems to be ok. now i need to use a dhcp server to assign ips to clients. i just have a dhcp server leasing ip on the lan interface. Can i use the same dhcp server to lease ips on the wifi net? thanks a lot |
| 16:43.52 | knight | antgel, well I am not in debian now.. but I did lsmod and it showed both e100 and eepro100 |
| 16:43.58 | petemc | rox: you didnt search very well |
| 16:44.09 | rox | i did |
| 16:44.21 | petemc | no, you didnt |
| 16:44.27 | rox | petemc: gqcam doesn't do the job with my cam, neither does webcam |
| 16:44.30 | zinx | tonix: sure. |
| 16:44.30 | dusty- | thingfish, where are the boot disks located for that release? |
| 16:44.50 | knight | antgel, and it also shows that mii is being used by both e100 and eepro100 |
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| 16:44.54 | tonix | zinx: and how? |
| 16:44.56 | tonix | :-) |
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| 16:45.14 | rox | ok, let me rephrase the question for all you purists ... |
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| 16:45.16 | antgel | knight: paste ifconfig eth0 and cat /etc/network/interfaces please. /topic |
| 16:45.50 | leonel | Hello : where can I get Updated kernel for sarge ? I don't want to compile the kernel any more |
| 16:45.56 | antgel | rox: you have a real know-it-all attitude, together with which your question was phrased so lazily as to make it unanswerable |
| 16:46.02 | thingfish | dusty-: http://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
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| 16:46.36 | knight | antgel, I need to boot into debian and save the output of both files and boot back here.. but I want some pointer to check as well to make me reboot worth |
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| 16:46.51 | antgel | leonel: sarge contains 2.4.27 and 2.6.8. www.backports.org/pending has 2.6.14 and yaird which you need |
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| 16:47.01 | Reilithion | sdschulze, that's the one. noflushd |
| 16:47.08 | obsvuugj | someone knows a good IDE for programming C/C++ ?(but not vim) |
| 16:47.21 | leonel | antgel, so can I use backports for produccion ? |
| 16:47.28 | thingfish | dusty-: the netinstall is great if you have a fast internet connection. |
| 16:47.33 | rox | i am trying to find an app that would take imagess and movies off of my MERCURY USB WEBCAM 380K. all i found in the official repository refuses to do the job for one reason or another,the only thing i found that partially functions is sonic-snap, which is not in the distro. can anybody suggest another program i could maybe use? |
| 16:47.36 | antgel | leonel: you can do what you want. no security updates |
| 16:47.39 | hans0lo | What is a good GUI 'task manager' (using XFCE4, so no gnome or KDE only options) |
| 16:47.43 | Reilithion | obsvuugj, while I was still using Winblows, I used Bloodshed Dev C++ |
| 16:47.50 | dusty- | thingfish, which floppys do I need for that? |
| 16:47.54 | leonel | antgel, thanks |
| 16:48.03 | thingfish | dusty-: you want floppies, not CDs? |
| 16:48.09 | obsvuugj | Reilithion> yeah I know that one but I am on Linux.. |
| 16:48.11 | dusty- | yes |
| 16:48.14 | dusty- | old computer |
| 16:48.16 | dusty- | no cdrom |
| 16:48.21 | thingfish | !tell dusty about sarge floppies |
| 16:48.28 | tonix | zinx: http://www.linuxhomenetworking.com/linux-hn/dchp.htm#_Toc92808217 |
| 16:48.32 | Reilithion | yeah, I figured. I haven't found a good one yet, but I'm fairly new to linux |
| 16:48.47 | dusty- | ? |
| 16:48.49 | tonix | zinx: it seems that dhcp server is not able to lease ips on multiple nics |
| 16:48.56 | knight | antgel, btw.. I tried knoppix 3.3 live cd and it network worked out of the 'box' using eepro100 |
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| 16:49.22 | dusty- | thingfish, which floppys do I need for that? |
| 16:49.47 | antgel | ke6isf: still waiting for the command output |
| 16:49.49 | thingfish | dusty-: I would imagine that you'd need the 4 shown in that dir. |
| 16:50.06 | dusty- | ok |
| 16:50.06 | antgel | ke6isf: and output when you try to ping yourself, and another machine on the lan |
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| 16:53.09 | Reilithion | sdschulze, are you using a journaling filesystem? |
| 16:53.10 | zinx | tonix: i've always used it to lease multiple networks. |
| 16:53.21 | zinx | tonix: i'm not sure i'd trust a page about dhcp named "dchp" |
| 16:53.53 | tuomas_ | i cant find a working source to my sources.list so i could apt-get install opera.. anyone? |
| 16:54.03 | zinx | tonix: why not read the config for your DHCP server |
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| 16:54.29 | PerfDave | tuomas_: Opera is not Free Software, and is not in Debian. Opera provide .debs that you can install on their website, but IMHO they're not very good |
| 16:54.40 | boyo-mat1 | tuomas_: why not just get the package from opera? |
| 16:54.50 | takatumi | tuomas_: look at opera.com, download the deb and install it or add their lines in sources.list |
| 16:55.25 | tuomas_ | PerfDave: tuomas_ i have installed opera once via apt-get and if i install the .deb package from the site, then plugins wont work |
| 16:55.42 | tuomas_ | i mean PerfDave boyo-mat1 |
| 16:55.53 | tuomas_ | and they will work when installed via apt-ger |
| 16:55.55 | tuomas_ | and they will work when installed via apt-ge |
| 16:55.58 | tuomas_ | and they will work when installed via apt-get |
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| 16:56.28 | PhoenixMan | Uh |
| 16:56.36 | knight | btw.. I am using a net-inst cd for etch.. |
| 16:56.40 | PerfDave | tuomas_: There should be no difference. Anyway, Opera isn't in the Debian repositories. I don't know if Opera provide their own unofficial repository, but if they do it'll be on their website. |
| 16:56.42 | tuomas_ | takatumi: how do i determine which lines i should add to my sources.list? |
| 16:56.50 | PhoenixMan | I want to install an IMAP server on my Linux machine. Any recommendations for one? |
| 16:57.07 | knight | I suspect the problem has something to do with both e100 and eepro100 are showing in lsmod |
| 16:57.08 | tuomas_ | PerfDave: but there is difference which is strange |
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| 16:57.25 | PerfDave | tuomas_: *shrug* Blame Opera. Either way, it's not a Debian-related question. Try asking on irc.opera.com? |
| 16:57.26 | stazich | change resolution |
| 16:57.32 | Reilithion | !tell tuomas_ about non-free |
| 16:57.39 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: What do you want to do with it? Courier seems easy to set up and install, cyrus is more fully-featured. |
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| 16:57.55 | stazich | can anyone tell me how to change resolution in x? |
| 16:57.56 | PerfDave | Reilithion: Opera isn't in Debian's non-free repository |
| 16:58.07 | PerfDave | stazich: xrandr, or "Screen Resize and Rotate" in KDE |
| 16:58.14 | bnoji | Is there a decent SSH client that supports tabbed connections? |
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| 16:58.18 | stazich | i dont have kde |
| 16:58.24 | PerfDave | stazich: Then xrandr |
| 16:58.29 | PerfDave | bnoji: "tabbed connections"? |
| 16:58.32 | Reilithion | PerfDave, I know, but the part about non-free being evil still applied |
| 16:58.41 | bnoji | I have 10-15 terms open, i want the connections in tabs like firefox |
| 16:58.43 | takatumi | tuomas_: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free (change unstable to whatever dist you are running.) |
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| 16:58.51 | zeeble | bnoji: well, use a tab capable terminal. like gnome-terminal or something |
| 16:58.53 | sciboy | Hey guys. |
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| 16:58.57 | PerfDave | Reilithion: Oh, and as for CSS stuff, try looking at http://www.eff.org/IP/Video/ |
| 16:59.10 | Reilithion | thanks, PerfDave |
| 16:59.13 | sciboy | Having issues with K3b (cdrecord) |
| 16:59.13 | bnoji | zeeble: im on winxp right now |
| 16:59.15 | bnoji | using putty |
| 16:59.16 | PerfDave | bnoji: Use an x terminal emulator that supports tabs such as konsole, or use screen. |
| 16:59.29 | PerfDave | bnoji: Then ask #windows if you're not using Debian :) |
| 16:59.34 | tuomas_ | takatumi: thanks, where did you got that? |
| 16:59.47 | zeeble | bnoji: you want a ssh client for windows that does tabs? |
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| 17:00.02 | takatumi | tuomas_: probably from the site, can't find it now, it works though. |
| 17:00.16 | knight | * back to try solving by myself |
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| 17:00.38 | bartden | hi, i'm running a samba PDC on interface 192.168.1.1, this is connected to a router with ip 192.168.1.11, this router has 2 winxp clients behind nat, (using ip's 192.168.2...) is it possible to make them join the PDC or do i need something special ? |
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| 17:01.31 | zeeble | bnoji: check out securecrt |
| 17:01.36 | PerfDave | bartden: You should be able to push the WINS server address via DHCP, or specify it manually. I think that should allow them to browse the domain, though shares on the machines behind NAT won't be accessible from elsewhere. |
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| 17:02.23 | mango | hi, did any one have success connecting his mobile phone via infrared using debian? |
| 17:03.28 | bnoji | zeeble: i used to use that. tabs are on the putty wishlist, but they dont expect to do it |
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| 17:03.49 | PerfDave | bnoji: Are all these SSH connections to the same machines? |
| 17:04.45 | blizzow | Is there a way to tell what IPs are connected to various ports on my debian box? |
| 17:05.00 | dli | blizzow, netstat |
| 17:05.02 | sciboy | I need some help finding out why K3b/cdrecord ain't writing the cd like it is suppose to... Log is here: http://sciboy.org/log.text |
| 17:05.02 | sciboy | Any help would be greatly appreciated. =) |
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| 17:05.40 | Reilithion | PerfDave, ah yes. Jon Lech Johansen |
| 17:05.48 | Reilithion | !jon lech johansen |
| 17:05.48 | dpkg | hmm... jon lech johansen is at http://www.nanocrew.net/ |
| 17:05.56 | Reilithion | cool |
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| 17:07.00 | mango | how can I connect my mobile nokia to a laptop x31 runnind debian sarge please? |
| 17:07.10 | PhoenixMan | PerfDave: Sorry for the long pause. I want to use it to receive my e-mail...and send e-mail! |
| 17:07.13 | PhoenixMan | Well....yeah. |
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| 17:07.23 | PhoenixMan | Also I want it so for instance |
| 17:07.32 | PhoenixMan | Like |
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| 17:07.37 | PhoenixMan | username@domain1.com WOULD receive e-mail |
| 17:07.42 | leonel | antgel, so if there's no kernel security support what's the best way to keep it updated ? backporting from sid ? roll my own ? |
| 17:07.44 | PhoenixMan | but username@domain2.com would NOT receive e-mail. |
| 17:07.51 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: Well, you can't use an IMAP server to send e-mail. |
| 17:07.56 | PerfDave | !tell PhoenixMan -about enter |
| 17:08.05 | blizzow | dli: Is there a way to make netstat show what process is using the port? |
| 17:08.17 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: And domain support is a function of your MTA, not your IMAP server. |
| 17:08.30 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: Didn't I already point you at http://www.debian-administration.org/ ? |
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| 17:08.48 | dli | blizzow, let me man netstat |
| 17:08.49 | stew | blizzow: -p |
| 17:09.00 | PhoenixMan | Uh... I already have an SMTP server setup.. I think. exim3. |
| 17:09.02 | PhoenixMan | Or exim4. |
| 17:09.05 | stew | blizzow: but you must be root or the owner of the process |
| 17:09.09 | PhoenixMan | Or whatever the number was. Oh dear, there I go again. |
| 17:09.28 | PhoenixMan | I'll install Courier and see how things go. |
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| 17:09.55 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: Well, your MTA handles incoming and outgoing mail from the Internet (via direct delivery or fetchmail or whatever); your IMAP server just serves local mail over a network. |
| 17:09.59 | stew | leonel: there is kernel security support, if you stick to the debian compiled kernels |
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| 17:10.27 | leonel | stew, where can I get them ? |
| 17:10.30 | botsy | i have a problem with ldap and tsl it's say Failed to issue the StartTLS instruction: Connect error .... do you know where provide this error ? |
| 17:10.56 | stew | leonel: you have a security.debian.org line in your sources.list? |
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| 17:11.40 | idis | hi, is there a good caching proxy for packages? (squid and generic proxies not an option) |
| 17:11.44 | leonel | stew, yes but since jun 6 I haven't seen any update to the kernel |
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| 17:11.51 | PhoenixMan | PerfDave: So I need to REQUEST a mail.domain.com domain to be activated or whatever? I just want to setup a mail server so others can send mail to me via phoenix@domain.com |
| 17:11.56 | leonel | like It was for woody since apr 2004 |
| 17:12.09 | antgel | idis: have you even searched in apt? |
| 17:12.13 | stew | leonel: what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 17:12.36 | idis | antgel: more than one machine and no nfs then ;) |
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| 17:12.39 | leonel | stew, 2.6.8-2-686 |
| 17:12.57 | lunitik | leonel: what distro are you using? (sarge, etch, sid) |
| 17:13.05 | stew | leonel: that is the latest |
| 17:13.09 | leonel | lunitik, sarge |
| 17:13.19 | leonel | stew, so no updates since sarge release ? |
| 17:13.21 | atrus | has anyone suceeded in playing newer quicktime files under debian? i've had trouble with several, the most recent being the xmen-3 trailer, wget'able from http://movies.apple.com/movies/fox/x-men_3/x-men_3-pre_teaser_h640w.mov |
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| 17:13.31 | antgel | idis: don't know what you mean. i was asking if you've searched for a suitable proxy |
| 17:13.34 | stew | leonel: correct |
| 17:13.48 | lunitik | leonel: Sarge is stable, thus doesn't get major upgrades, unless there is a security flaw, you won't see a new kernel ever in Sarge. |
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| 17:14.21 | antgel | leonel: they may be a little tardy. you may wish to roll your own, or just pray and make sure you have backups :) |
| 17:14.32 | idis | antgel: I used apt-proxy, but 1) it is really buggy, 2) its rewrite is worse than 1) and don't know for others |
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| 17:15.25 | lunitik | idis: I'm pretty sure thats not at all what he means.... |
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| 17:16.33 | idis | lunitik: I asked not about generic proxies... |
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| 17:16.52 | lunitik | idis: ohh... ah |
| 17:16.55 | PhoenixMan | PerfDave: So I need to REQUEST a mail.domain.com domain to be activated or whatever? I just want to setup a mail server so others can send mail to me via phoenix@domain.com |
| 17:16.56 | valdyn | idis: apt-proxy is ok lately i think, approx is one alternative |
| 17:17.27 | leonel | thanks lunitik stew |
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| 17:17.39 | antgel | i'm sick of people asking questions without giving a proper background |
| 17:17.42 | idis | valdyn: would look for approx, last time I checked it was alpha |
| 17:17.51 | antgel | holding things back etc. |
| 17:17.53 | antgel | lazy |
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| 17:18.02 | Reilithion | antgel, that's what we have dpkg for. ^_^ |
| 17:18.21 | lunitik | antgel: indeed, its annoying... like others are supposed to guess what they actually want... might as well say "it doesn't work" :/ |
| 17:18.40 | Reilithion | whoops. too late. antgel left |
| 17:18.53 | lunitik | doh |
| 17:18.54 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: if you want to recieve mail at domain.com, then that domain.com needs to be registered ( mail.domain.com has nothing to do with it ) |
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| 17:19.21 | cahoot | atrus: fwiw MPlayer 1.0pre7try2-3.3.6 - plays it fine |
| 17:19.30 | stew | i think someone already registered domain.com :P |
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| 17:19.42 | valdyn | oh nos |
| 17:19.44 | Reilithion | stew, let's check... |
| 17:19.51 | lunitik | cahoot: gstreamer + ffmpeg > mplayer + w32codecs ;) |
| 17:19.59 | lunitik | cahoot: seems to be better quality :) |
| 17:20.23 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: Uhm, sorry? You'll need the MX record of the domain at which you want to recieve mail to point to the IP (or a CNAME, I can never remember which) for your mailserver. And preferably have a secondary MX too. |
| 17:20.41 | stew | mx is supposed to NOT be a cname |
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| 17:20.51 | Reilithion | stew, Domain.com is now offering drastically reduced 5 and 10 year pricing. Now you can register your domain name for a 5 year term for only $23 per year or a 10 year term for only $17.90 per year. |
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| 17:20.57 | learnfromscratch | what is a host bridge ??? is it mother board ? |
| 17:20.58 | dli | lunitik, is totem = gstreamer + ffmpeg |
| 17:21.02 | PerfDave | stew: Like I say< I can never remember which it is ;) |
| 17:21.03 | atrus | cahoot: hrm. marrilat's mplayer isn't installable here, under sid+experimental. |
| 17:21.04 | stew | though it will often work as a cname, its just not guaranteed |
| 17:21.09 | lunitik | dli: here, yes... |
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| 17:21.40 | dli | lunitik, I like keyboard interface of mplayer |
| 17:21.42 | lunitik | dli: by default, 'totem' = xine with no codecs though.... |
| 17:21.44 | PerfDave | atrus: Running a mixture of sid and experimental and having uninstallable packages from a third party repository? I am surprised ;) |
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| 17:21.50 | raz0rsedge | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:21.56 | cahoot | atrus: the horrid truth is I compiled it from src |
| 17:21.57 | Adri2000 | hi, i'm using apache 2 on debian sarge, and i have installed phpmyadmin (still with apt-get), and i have a problem : when someone try to use phpmyadmin from his browsers, it laaaaaags, and the cpu load increase :/ does anyone know this problem? |
| 17:22.01 | justdust | hello everyone |
| 17:22.11 | dli | lunitik, the user interface of totem is awful |
| 17:22.18 | atrus | cahoot: gasp! do they even include a debian/ directory upstream anymore? |
| 17:22.21 | lunitik | dli: not really... |
| 17:22.33 | lunitik | dli: Works fine for pron imo ;) |
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| 17:22.46 | PhoenixMan | PerfDave: I have hyperbyond.com. It's fully setup 'n stuff. I try to connect to it, and I get disconnected with an error: Fatal Error: Maildir: no such file or directory. |
| 17:22.59 | dli | lunitik, like seeking forward/backward, mplayer is the best |
| 17:23.02 | justdust | I have a problem, I jsut installed x-server, gdm and gnome and the keyboards shift key doesn't work in gnome, it does in the shell... |
| 17:23.08 | raz0rsedge | + |
| 17:23.32 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: which server are you connecting to? |
| 17:23.35 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: pop3? |
| 17:23.36 | lunitik | dli: totem has keyboard interaction available... you're just used to mplayers :/ |
| 17:23.38 | PhoenixMan | IMAP. |
| 17:23.39 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: Well, mail to that domain is handled by post.rockriver.net and post2.rockriver.net, so it looks like they're misconfigured |
| 17:23.39 | stew | justdust: time to learn about xmodmap |
| 17:23.52 | PhoenixMan | I was told IMAP is better. So I just installed Courier with IMAP support. |
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| 17:23.54 | dli | justdust, run keymap? |
| 17:24.10 | justdust | th, let me try... |
| 17:24.11 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: IMAP has nothing to do with sending mail to hyperbyond.com |
| 17:24.14 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: ok.. IMAP, therefore you IMAP server is configured to read mail from some Maildir that does not exist |
| 17:24.16 | dli | lunitik, good, I will read a little bit |
| 17:24.35 | lunitik | dli: personally, I've never found a UI for mplayer that was better than totem... although I have been known to use mplayer without a frontend as my default movie player.... |
| 17:24.47 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: I really recommend you do some basic research into how Internet mail works, there are some good O'Reilly books on the subject. |
| 17:24.50 | dli | lunitik, but gnome has a memory leak on my system, so I don't really use gnome |
| 17:25.13 | lunitik | dli: using devel version with no problems here ^_^ |
| 17:25.21 | PerfDave | PhoenixMan: /msg dpkg mail tutorial |
| 17:25.22 | valdyn | PhoenixMan: your mta and your imap server need to agree where mail is supposed to be. |
| 17:25.32 | PerfDave | valdyn: As do his DNS records |
| 17:25.35 | deby | hello, just for the sake of knoledge, on 2.6.14 the mouse driver dosen't get loaded, i can make echo modprobe psmouse > /etc/ini.d/loadmouse and make a symlink to the rc so it i don't have to type that comand when i reboot, any ideea why it dosen;t load (nothing in syslog or dmesg about it) or what can be a more elegant method to do it ? |
| 17:25.38 | dli | lunitik, gnome has 1, memory leak; 2. wnck-applet hangs with 100% cpu usage |
| 17:25.49 | stew | dli: did you file any bugs? |
| 17:25.50 | lunitik | dli: ouch... |
| 17:25.52 | valdyn | PerfDave: yea |
| 17:26.00 | valdyn | PerfDave: wasnt even thouching that yet |
| 17:26.07 | PerfDave | deby: Add "psmouse" to the end of /etc/modules |
| 17:26.11 | dli | stew: both are known bugs without real solutions |
| 17:26.13 | PerfDave | valdyn: I think that's where you need to start :) |
| 17:26.47 | lunitik | dli: Find it hard to believe that 2.10 could be more buggy than 2.13 ... hah |
| 17:26.50 | deby | PerfDave, thanx i will try that |
| 17:26.53 | stew | dli: what package has a known memory leak? |
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| 17:27.16 | lunitik | dli: looks like wnck-applets.... |
| 17:27.23 | lunitik | -s |
| 17:27.24 | valdyn | gnome-terminal sure easily looks as if it would leak, though i dont think it does |
| 17:27.35 | justdust | my french keyboard seems to work fine, just the shift and shiftlock key don't do their job, all symbols are in place... |
| 17:27.39 | dli | stew: I asked in #gnome, people there mentioned known memory leak issue on "certain distros" |
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| 17:28.08 | dli | stew: I don't know which program either:( they recommended me to log out from time to time |
| 17:28.25 | lunitik | dli: great advice huh... lol |
| 17:28.35 | stew | dli: are you still running sarge packages on etch? |
| 17:28.36 | dli | lunitik, instead, I use xfce4 now |
| 17:28.52 | PerfDave | Good old halfassed GNOME :) |
| 17:29.00 | dli | stew: they couldn't confirm whether this issue exists in debian at all :( |
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| 17:29.24 | stew | dli: but you can? |
| 17:29.29 | dli | stew: my problem exists in gentoo only :( |
| 17:29.59 | lunitik | dli: you just lost cool points bringing that up. |
| 17:30.02 | justdust | what dpkg-reconfigure do I have todo to chande my keyboard... |
| 17:30.18 | lunitik | justdust: depends where you wish to change it? |
| 17:30.22 | stew | !drxx justdust |
| 17:30.23 | dpkg | justdust: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:30.26 | Azar | after 10 hours I can say I finally got all new Debian box set up, with everything. |
| 17:30.28 | stew | justdust: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 17:30.33 | Azar | thanks guys for help |
| 17:30.43 | dli | lunitik, memory leak is really nasty, it took me a while to narrow it down to gnome |
| 17:30.49 | justdust | lunitik, the ones I gave in when I installed X... |
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| 17:31.00 | lunitik | dli: idc if its not on your debian box. |
| 17:31.10 | valdyn | dli: gnome isnt just one app |
| 17:31.11 | PhoenixMan | Ohh. |
| 17:31.15 | lunitik | justdust: see what stew just said |
| 17:31.21 | PhoenixMan | I thought our mail server was bugged but it seems it's another mail server that handles us. |
| 17:31.22 | dli | lunitik, gnome in debian runs smoothly |
| 17:31.24 | botsy | before i launch smbldap-populate it's not necessary i create a ldif file ? |
| 17:31.25 | justdust | thx |
| 17:31.32 | lunitik | dli: cool... then I don't care. |
| 17:31.44 | dli | lunitik, I have many debian boxes running gnome |
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| 17:31.52 | lunitik | dli: cool... then I don't care. |
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| 17:33.30 | lunitik | I could have sworn the reason Gentoo was so cool, was because it gave you the power to fix things yourself, or something? |
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| 17:35.31 | learnfromscratch | how do i get the battery button on the pannel .. i use xfce/debian/sarge how do i get the battery button on the pannel .. i use xfce/debian/sarge |
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| 17:38.09 | dli | learnfromscratch, you need xfce4-battery |
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| 17:38.42 | dli | learnfromscratch, after that, you right click on the xfce bar, like on its edge, you can "add items" |
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| 17:40.27 | Bufferfly | guys how come mplayer is not in apt-get packages list anymore? |
| 17:40.39 | Bufferfly | i swear ive apt-get i before in the past |
| 17:41.02 | SerajewelKS | !tell Bufferfly about mplayer |
| 17:41.19 | justdust | I reconfigured X with my french keyboard, the keys are in the right place, but I can't type any capitals or symbols wich need the shift key... |
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| 17:41.32 | john_doe | Bufferfly: you need marillat in yor sources.list |
| 17:41.50 | stew | justdust: man xmodmap ; google for xmodmap |
| 17:41.50 | john_doe | Bufferfly: google it ;-) |
| 17:41.50 | Bufferfly | hmm ok whats the address? |
| 17:41.54 | Bufferfly | ok |
| 17:41.56 | SerajewelKS | !marillat |
| 17:41.56 | dpkg | marillat is, like, an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 17:42.07 | Bufferfly | i was gonna say i swear ive apt-get mplayer befor |
| 17:42.18 | justdust | stew, this can't be something far more simple ? |
| 17:42.24 | john_doe | Bufferfly: it's easier than telling us about what distribution you want |
| 17:42.41 | SerajewelKS | Bufferfly: you already did say that |
| 17:42.45 | nairu | ragazzi volendo scaricare i pacchetti dalla rete,attraverso base-config ho indicato il percorso |
| 17:42.53 | nairu | ma mi chiede sempre il cd |
| 17:42.57 | nairu | come posso fare? |
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| 17:43.02 | RichiH | !it |
| 17:43.02 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 17:43.54 | justdust | can't it be that I configured the keyboard while capslock was on ? |
| 17:43.57 | Bufferfly | ok maybe someone can suggest what plugin i install to get vlc running some wmv files? |
| 17:44.30 | FarrisG | anyone here ever use Sun Grid Engine on a debian cluster? |
| 17:45.01 | stew | justdust: i don't think it has anything to do with the capslock. have you tried switching keyboard layouts with setxkbmap? |
| 17:45.14 | justdust | no... |
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| 17:46.58 | jnc | !marillat key |
| 17:46.59 | dpkg | If you are using apt > 0.6, and it's complaining about missing marillat's key, ask me about <apt-key 1F41B907>. |
| 17:47.14 | jnc | it's a freaking treasure hunt |
| 17:47.14 | john_doe | When I ssh to my newly installed sarge machine, the DISPLAY variable is not set. I have "X11Forwarding yes" and "X11DisplayOffset 10" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config on sarge. What do I miss? |
| 17:47.31 | umbop | hmm xfree86 is using 50% memory, when i strace the process i am seeing read(13, 0xa8f1640, 6012) = -1 EAGAIN (Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 17:47.33 | poop | ssh -X? |
| 17:47.34 | tuomas_ | why they are paying to linus torvalds of developing the kernel? or are they, and who are they? |
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| 17:47.47 | umbop | basically it's looping |
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| 17:48.19 | lunitik | tuomas_: OSDL is currently, and, because he codes stuff? |
| 17:48.39 | tuomas_ | lunitik: where does osdl get their money? |
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| 17:49.06 | john_doe | poop: that doesn't make any difference |
| 17:49.08 | poop | From the International African Relief Fund |
| 17:49.29 | tuomas_ | lunitik: does osdl pay to linus for developing the kernel or for something else? |
| 17:49.32 | poop | We're all just sick about it. |
| 17:49.40 | lunitik | tuomas_: various companies.... http://groups.osdl.org/osdl_members/osdl_roster/ <-- all of those companies donate some money. |
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| 17:50.04 | lunitik | tuomas_: to maintain the kernel, along with Andrew Morten |
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| 17:50.10 | poop | john: Maybe -vvv will offer a clue |
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| 17:51.03 | tuomas_ | lunitik: thanks for the info |
| 17:51.15 | lunitik | tuomas_: you're welcome. |
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| 17:54.12 | Skrotto | Where is OpenSSH's logfile? |
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| 17:59.06 | justdust | I changed the kb mapping from fr-latin9 to fr-pc, now the shift keys work, but ALT GR doesn't, so I don't have an @... |
| 17:59.13 | justdust | what should I do ? |
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| 18:00.01 | jnc | justdust: you could toggle between layouts, i do not know much about non-usa layouts |
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| 18:00.43 | vorpal | hey dudes, anyone know what the status is of linux and amd dual core processors? is there a minimum kernel version, or other software required? |
| 18:00.53 | justdust | I only have 4, Apple/PC/same as X11/Latin9 ... |
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| 18:01.24 | c00i90wn | Sorry if this question is way out off topic but I'm looking for a good Hosting that has Debian Dedicated Box, any recommendation? |
| 18:01.25 | tarzeau | vorpal: it works? |
| 18:01.35 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: it's off-topic |
| 18:01.46 | vorpal | tarzeau: well, you can't ask for more ;-) |
| 18:01.51 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: what do you want to host, free software? |
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| 18:02.06 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: yes... open source soft |
| 18:02.12 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: which? |
| 18:02.26 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: LiteStep (it's a windows shell) |
| 18:02.27 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: it's not the same. is it free software or only open source? |
| 18:02.27 | Eulex | vorpal, I think kernel-image-2.6-k7-smp would work very well. for more accurate info, consider joining a channel that's dealing with the kernel itself. |
| 18:02.29 | vorpal | tarzeau: so is the dual core functionality handled at the kernel level or in hardware or what? |
| 18:02.37 | tarzeau | vorpal: i've just last week installed one, worked flawless |
| 18:02.37 | Skrotto | Dear god. What is a good way to fight people trying to bruteforce my ssh-server? |
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| 18:02.47 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: both free and open source... |
| 18:02.49 | jnc | c00i90wn: i've used LiteStep, it was fun back in windows 95 days |
| 18:02.51 | tarzeau | vorpal: uh dunno i use i386 linux 2.4.32 on it |
| 18:03.14 | tarzeau | jnc: you should love GNUstep/WindowMaker then? |
| 18:03.14 | c00i90wn | jnc: It's pretty nice :D... |
| 18:03.20 | Reilithion | I'm having trouble figuring out what "legal problems" Debian would face for distributing libdvdcss, since Jon Lech Johansen was acquitted over 2 years ago. |
| 18:03.24 | jnc | tarzeau: i do love WindowMaker |
| 18:03.27 | tarzeau | Skrotto: run it on another port |
| 18:03.34 | tarzeau | Skrotto: like 1 |
| 18:03.37 | vorpal | tarzeau, Eulex : thanks |
| 18:03.38 | jnc | tarzeau: i'm using Metacity now and i have modified it to act like windowmaker |
| 18:03.47 | jnc | a rough compromise |
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| 18:04.09 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:04.09 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure populartiy-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:04.10 | Skrotto | tarzeau: Good sugguestion. Is there a way to set a limit, like a IP might only try login three times, after which it will be disabled from trying to login further for a day or so? |
| 18:04.33 | tarzeau | Skrotto: gnu sshd or opensshd? |
| 18:04.39 | tarzeau | Skrotto: why bother? |
| 18:04.51 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: Can you recommend me any Dedicated Debian Box even if it's off-topic? |
| 18:04.53 | bassMonkey | I use proftpd and have it configure to chroot all users not in the ftp-admin group to their home-dir. Is there some way I could share another directory mounted elsewhere to the "normal" users? tried making a link (ln -s) but it only showed up as a file. |
| 18:04.53 | Thunder- | Skrotto, you can do that with PAM |
| 18:04.54 | tarzeau | Skrotto: only allow sshkey logins? |
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| 18:05.08 | Reilithion | Is there a page or a thread somewhere that I can read about why, despite Jon Lech Johansen's acquittal, Debian still doesn't distribute libdvdcss? |
| 18:05.09 | justdust | I figured it out, my "alt gr" key functions as a simple "alt" key, how can I change that ? |
| 18:05.12 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: can you tell me which software/what you want to host ? |
| 18:05.25 | jnc | Reilithion: irrelevent. libdvdcss is (over dramatically in my words) still a terrorist weapon in the USA |
| 18:05.25 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: if it's uncommercial, and software i like, i can host it for free |
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| 18:06.14 | Reilithion | jnc, thank you for your explanation, but I was hoping for a thread or a page |
| 18:06.20 | tarzeau | haha i just did firefox& and it [2] + segmentation fault firefox before it even appeared. BULLSHIT |
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| 18:06.41 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: it's uncommercial and I already told you, it's LiteStep (a windows shell) |
| 18:06.55 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: ahh sorry :) cool, where is the stuff? |
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| 18:07.04 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: with source? |
| 18:07.12 | Rudolf | how i can mount SATA partition when the debian are installed in IDE partition |
| 18:07.24 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: wiki.litestep.com, dev.litestep.com |
| 18:07.27 | tarzeau | c00i90wn: are you the developer of it or what? |
| 18:07.27 | jnc | tarzeau: lgpl'd last time i looked at it |
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| 18:07.32 | ExplodingLemur | Having an init script problem, specifically an issue with start-stop-daemon...script can be seen at http://www.halibut.com/~change/blah/asterisk When I attempt to start Asterisk with the script, I get an error "start-stop-daemon: invalid option -- U" Not sure what's going on, the script is calling start-stop-daemon in the same manner as other init scripts that work fine. |
| 18:07.42 | c00i90wn | tarzeau: yes I'm part of the current dev team |
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| 18:07.43 | Rudolf | i loaded the controler module and appear de /dev/sda |
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| 18:08.05 | ExplodingLemur | (and I verified that $ASTARGS in the script contains "-U asterisk -G asterisk" when start-stop-daemon is called) |
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| 18:08.16 | justdust | I figured it out, my "alt gr" key functions as a simple "alt" key, how can I change that ? |
| 18:08.22 | Reilithion | Rudolf, I'm not sure if this'll help, but /msg dpkg sata |
| 18:08.39 | jnc | justdust: it might be your windowmanager |
| 18:08.46 | jnc | justdust: are you using metacity? |
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| 18:08.58 | justdust | windowmanager is gdm... |
| 18:09.18 | jnc | Rudolf: i run a sata-only box |
| 18:09.18 | valdyn | !css |
| 18:09.18 | dpkg | CSS DVD security lock see http://livid.on.openprojects.net/ for more information, or cascading style sheets, or http://www.w3.org/Style/CSS/ or http://www.webreference.com/html/tutorials/ |
| 18:09.23 | jnc | Rudolf: what's up, chief? |
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| 18:09.39 | justdust | debian/x-window-system/gdm/gnome... |
| 18:09.42 | Rudolf | jnc: hey guy, nice |
| 18:09.55 | jnc | Rudolf: even my dvd burner is sata :) |
| 18:09.57 | lex | Hulllo.... a performance question. I have a server that serves whole GNOME sessions to thin clients. Its fairly small and im starting to see load averages of about 11-12. Which is high. If this was a web server id be scared.... however, i see the users and they tell me they are happy.... The server is gigabit enabled and the actual storage goes through NFS. |
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| 18:10.03 | valdyn | justdust: gdm is not a window manager |
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| 18:10.14 | lex | So, in your experience, is it acceptable to have that kind of load for this kind of application? |
| 18:10.22 | Skrotto | tazle: Now, is there a way to seperate ssh-logins from auth.log to another file? |
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| 18:10.30 | lex | Oh Debian Performance Gawds? |
| 18:10.31 | Reilithion | gdm is a session manager, or a display manager |
| 18:10.33 | jnc | lex: if the users don't complain, i wouldn't worry about it |
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| 18:10.37 | Rudolf | jnc: i just installed a debian in IDE but i need boot a windows (for my computer's friend) in SATA |
| 18:10.40 | justdust | valdyn, what is then ? |
| 18:10.43 | valdyn | lex: 11 isnt much at all for this |
| 18:10.46 | Rudolf | jnc: using lilo |
| 18:10.50 | valdyn | lex: your users arent doing enough ) |
| 18:10.52 | Rudolf | received this message |
| 18:11.02 | Rudolf | Fatal: Bios device code 0x80 is being used by two disks |
| 18:11.02 | Rudolf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:11.17 | jnc | Rudolf: in my experience you cannot get away with a linux kernel that is prior to 2.6.12 and use SATA |
| 18:11.24 | jnc | Rudolf: what's your kver |
| 18:11.30 | Rudolf | he he he |
| 18:11.31 | Rudolf | 2.4 |
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| 18:11.41 | valdyn | justdust: a login manager ( in my words ), not sure what gdm means, maybe gnome display manager |
| 18:11.42 | Rudolf | nice, i'll try change to 2.6 |
| 18:12.02 | jnc | yeah. there's a solution for 2.4.x but it is such a pain and does not always work, i won't even bother telling you about it |
| 18:12.19 | justdust | valdyn, sorry, I'mpretty new to this... so X is my window manager... |
| 18:12.32 | valdyn | justdust: no, thats your windowing system |
| 18:12.34 | lex | jnc,valdyn: hehe... i thought so... ill keep monitoring and wait until it really cringes. |
| 18:12.36 | jnc | Rudolf: if you're running stable, install 2.6.8 packages to pull in the required deps, and then find a 2.6.12 kernel to install |
| 18:12.42 | Reilithion | valdyn, about CSS, can't resolve host livid.on.openprojects.net |
| 18:12.43 | valdyn | justdust: metacity might be your window manager if you use gnome |
| 18:12.47 | Reilithion | know of anywhere else I can read? |
| 18:12.54 | valdyn | Reilithion: no idea , not my factoid |
| 18:13.08 | lex | justdust, No, your window manager does two important things: a)Manages windows....b) Manages mouse and keyboard context with regards to the window. |
| 18:13.11 | Reilithion | how do I ask dpkg who made a factoid? |
| 18:13.12 | justdust | valdyn, how can I find out ? |
| 18:13.28 | valdyn | justdust: window manager is what makes those bards on top if your windows and enables you to move them around |
| 18:13.34 | valdyn | s/bards/bars/ |
| 18:13.41 | Reilithion | Bards! |
| 18:13.44 | Reilithion | w00t! |
| 18:13.53 | valdyn | !factinfo css |
| 18:13.53 | dpkg | css -- last modified at Fri May 5 21:34:29 2000 by bleck!kris@pobax3-119.dialup.optusnet.com.au; it has been requested 39 times, last by tarzeau at Wed Nov 23 10:06:36 2005. |
| 18:14.21 | tarzeau | !qotd0 |
| 18:14.22 | dpkg | <jsolis> how can i access my network when i dont have a network icon |
| 18:14.23 | lex | justdust, X.Org is your X SERVER. It implements a network server that clients write to and paints whatever those clients send it to the screen.... hence, we in linux RULE when it comes to remote screens. |
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| 18:14.39 | Nwallins | is moving from sarge to etch as simple as editing sources.list and `apt-get dist-upgrade`? |
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| 18:14.49 | Reilithion | I'm going to make a little Bard applet that puts bards on top of your windows, now |
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| 18:15.02 | jnc | justdust: in a typical configuration, bios boots, loads bootloader, bootloader executes kernel code, kernel runs init, init starts a bunch of processes and loads the display manager, display manager runs using X11 and shows a graphical login screen, graphical display manager runs your choice of window manager when logging in |
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| 18:15.07 | blondie | purr |
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| 18:15.10 | rvsjoen | i've added both unstable and testing do my sources.list and set default to testing in apt.conf, how can I search for packages in the unstable tree ? does apt-cache search in all sources or just the default release ? I presume the unstable tree most often has newer versions of the packages... |
| 18:15.18 | justdust | LINUX should rule the moment I'm capable of typing an @... so how do I do that ? |
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| 18:15.33 | valdyn | justdust: you can trivially find out which of the running programs is your window manager afaik |
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| 18:15.40 | lex | justdust, see the key with the @ there? PRess it |
| 18:15.45 | jnc | rvsjoen: to my knowlege it's all-or-nothing and you cannot downgrade |
| 18:15.46 | justdust | valdyn, how ? |
| 18:15.46 | valdyn | justdust: but 'ps aux | grep metacity' is a hack that probably does it |
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| 18:15.50 | jnc | rvsjoen: be very careful |
| 18:15.56 | valdyn | justdust: my typing sucks, i meant 'cannot' |
| 18:16.00 | justdust | thx, hold on... |
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| 18:16.18 | jnc | rvsjoen: what i end up doing is pulling in single packages from unstable by downloading the package sources and building a package |
| 18:16.23 | jnc | then i install that by hand |
| 18:16.33 | lex | justdust, However... if youre having keyboard mapping problems, youll need to figure out what your desktop environment will be before we can help you |
| 18:16.36 | rvsjoen | not a bad idea |
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| 18:16.56 | jnc | justdust: yes, common examples might be Gnome or KDesktop Environment (KDE) |
| 18:16.57 | rvsjoen | the point is I need to be sure of which release the package comes from _before_ doing the install ;-) |
| 18:16.58 | Reilithion | rvsjoen you can search online at packages.debian.org I believe |
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| 18:17.21 | rvsjoen | so you would advise removal of the unstable branch in sources ? |
| 18:17.22 | justdust | lex, valdyn, metacity seems to be running on 1698... |
| 18:17.22 | jnc | rvsjoen: what Reilithion says |
| 18:17.32 | jnc | unstable is what it says it is |
| 18:17.41 | valdyn | rvsjoen: yea, unstable source just should not be there |
| 18:17.41 | jnc | unstable. it quite often will cause things to break |
| 18:17.45 | lex | justdust, So... thats a start... do you see a panel at the top of your window after you authenticate? |
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| 18:17.59 | stephelton | whats a good cd ripper? |
| 18:18.01 | lex | justdust, If so, does it have a little paw? |
| 18:18.07 | Reilithion | !unstable |
| 18:18.07 | dpkg | [unstable] the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid |
| 18:18.11 | jnc | stephelton: i like the simplicity of Sound Juicer |
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| 18:18.24 | justdust | lex, are you asking me if gnome starts ? |
| 18:18.27 | jnc | stephelton: that's what i use to rip into Ogg Vorbis format |
| 18:18.29 | su_exec | can i just install debian sarge 32bit on my ampd opteron machine ? |
| 18:18.31 | lex | stephelton, grip |
| 18:18.41 | lex | justdust, yeah... hey... :) there ya go |
| 18:18.41 | valdyn | su_exec: yep |
| 18:18.42 | rvsjoen | alright, thanks |
| 18:18.44 | stephelton | thanks |
| 18:18.54 | su_exec | it hangs tho do i need a special boot option? |
| 18:18.55 | justdust | yes |
| 18:19.03 | justdust | and so does firefox... |
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| 18:19.12 | jnc | justdust: Metacity is the default window manager that ships with Gnome |
| 18:19.18 | valdyn | su_exec: you might want to use linux26 at the boot prompt to use a 2.6 kernel |
| 18:19.23 | lex | justdust, So... you can set your keyboard with the gnome keyboard applet. Right click on the panel and add an applet, select the keyboard applet, then right click on the applet, open keyboard preferences... |
| 18:19.23 | justdust | but how do I send an email without my @... |
| 18:19.24 | Reilithion | stephelton, (and jnc) I like the simple functionality of the Jack script |
| 18:19.32 | jnc | it's more than likely you're using Metacity, which is the responsible piece of software for key and mouse mappings |
| 18:19.37 | su_exec | yes i tried also it hangs after searching for pci devices |
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| 18:19.48 | lex | justdust, gnome is happyest with metacity as a window manager |
| 18:19.48 | valdyn | jnc: eh? |
| 18:19.56 | PhoenixMan | Dumbest question ever but here goes: Perl was giving me errors, and I've found a way to permanantly fix this. How do I make it so LC_ALL is changed to en_us.utf8 everytime the system boots (currently it gets changed to something else). Basically I need to know which file sets the locales. |
| 18:19.59 | valdyn | jnc: it is a window manager |
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| 18:20.17 | caphuso | PhoenixMan: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 18:20.20 | jnc | justdust: do what lex says, and also play with Desktop | Preferences | Keyboard |
| 18:20.21 | lex | PhoenixMan, you can reconfigure the locales package |
| 18:20.28 | jnc | valdyn: that's what i said |
| 18:20.42 | valdyn | jnc: you said it would control my keymap, it does not |
| 18:21.05 | lex | valdyn, it tries. |
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| 18:21.16 | caphuso | not that wrong locales should cause errors with perl |
| 18:21.19 | jnc | it doesn't set your keymap, it controls your key and mouse mappings |
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| 18:21.38 | jnc | shortcuts and such |
| 18:21.53 | jnc | also the behavior of Meta keys |
| 18:22.22 | lex | valdyn, you set your keymap with the keyboard preferences. |
| 18:22.31 | lex | valdyn, and in a pure console, you do it with loadkeys |
| 18:22.50 | justdust | lex, I'm playing... hold on... |
| 18:22.54 | lex | Oh man... long time since i was here.... im getting better |
| 18:22.55 | valdyn | lex: yea, i know, metacity however has nothing to do with it |
| 18:23.01 | PhoenixMan | .....right. Thanks. |
| 18:23.14 | jnc | valdyn: the keyboard behavior on a virtual console (before the display manager or X11) is completely unrelated to the behavior of your keyboard from within X11 |
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| 18:23.19 | Reilithion | lex, it's a good feeling, isn't it? ^_^ |
| 18:23.20 | lex | valdyn, Well... it CAN be the problem some times. The window manager is the first process to get the keypress event |
| 18:23.51 | lex | Reilithion, i love it |
| 18:23.58 | jnc | stop. you're hurting yourself valdyn |
| 18:24.08 | valdyn | hah |
| 18:24.17 | Rudolf | jnc: hey dude, another question: Do you understand this: Dec 9 15:20:51 blackhammer smartd[8788]: Device: /dev/hda, SMART Prefailure Attribute: 8 Seek_Time_Performance changed from 252 to 253 |
| 18:24.27 | Reilithion | Is there a "learn how to program" club or group around somewhere on the net? |
| 18:24.31 | learnfromscratch | how do i config make to report only errors ? |
| 18:24.32 | jnc | Rudolf: be very afraid :( |
| 18:24.45 | Rudolf | jnc: shit |
| 18:24.46 | lex | Reilithion, hundreds of those |
| 18:24.48 | jnc | Rudolf: just kidding |
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| 18:25.02 | jnc | Rudolf: that's a SMART capable daemon telling you something changed |
| 18:25.09 | jnc | probably inconsequential |
| 18:25.10 | Reilithion | lex, how are you finding them? |
| 18:25.32 | Rudolf | jnc: every instalation in my amd64 (ext3, jfs) receive this message |
| 18:25.32 | justdust | lex, each time I change something in keyboard settings I get an XKB error... |
| 18:25.33 | lex | Reilithion, i dont...i already know how to program. But id start at google.... like, whatchawannaknow |
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| 18:25.50 | jnc | Rudolf: what brand of hard disk do you use? |
| 18:25.59 | Reilithion | I can't google 'everything' |
| 18:26.06 | Reilithion | that'd suck |
| 18:26.14 | lex | justdust, Well... thats strange. However, does it work? What nationality is your keyboard from? |
| 18:26.21 | rvsjoen | i've recently set up a small local repository using "reprepro".. Do I seriously need to re-generate the Release.gpg file each time i'm adding another package ? |
| 18:26.30 | jnc | Reilithion: start with Ruby |
| 18:26.33 | jnc | #ruby-lang |
| 18:26.40 | justdust | FRENCH, those twits like to do things diferently... |
| 18:26.46 | jnc | it's a new community, they are very passionate and helpful |
| 18:26.46 | Reilithion | jnc, why ruby? How does it compare with python? |
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| 18:27.01 | Rudolf | jnc: hda: Maxtor 6Y160L0, ATA DISK drive |
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| 18:27.08 | jnc | Python is more mature. i hate python, but have to admit is the more mature choice for a project |
| 18:27.14 | lex | Reilithion, ruby, ObjectiveC and Python are good choices of languages. All come in debian very well packaged |
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| 18:27.17 | numist | !tell me about java |
| 18:27.29 | jnc | Rudolf: Maxtors.... |
| 18:27.31 | jnc | pleh |
| 18:27.33 | lex | jnc, Like the #debian community, passionate and helpfull. |
| 18:27.38 | obtix | ok, how do i mount a folder so all users have full access to it in fstab? every time it is mount root takes full ownership and other users cant write to it |
| 18:27.42 | Rudolf | jnc: 160G |
| 18:27.43 | jnc | lex: it's getting better on IRC |
| 18:27.54 | Rudolf | jnc: do you think change this HD??? |
| 18:28.03 | lex | jnc, it seems so.... i was used to being tended by BOFH's |
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| 18:28.06 | jnc | Rudolf: i think i will never buy another maxtor drive so long as i live |
| 18:28.09 | Rudolf | jnc: i used this only 1 year |
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| 18:28.18 | lex | All i know i learned here though. This is a good channel if you stick to it |
| 18:28.20 | rvsjoen | obtix: set the umask or change the uid or gid |
| 18:28.25 | valdyn | obtix: what filesystem on that partition or share you are mounting? |
| 18:28.29 | jnc | i've had 5 maxtors, 3 failed within 6 months |
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| 18:28.40 | Rudolf | FUCK |
| 18:28.41 | jnc | 2 of those failed after being serviced |
| 18:28.43 | jnc | heh heh |
| 18:28.56 | obtix | valdyn vfat |
| 18:29.00 | jnc | i mean, what is that, like close to 70% failure rate? |
| 18:29.03 | valdyn | !vfatrw |
| 18:29.03 | dpkg | To get write access to a vfat partition when mounting it with fstab, use the line "/dev/partition /mount/point vfat defaults,uid=USERID,gid=GROUPID,umask=002 0 0" in /etc/fstab. umask=002 will make the partition rwxrwxr-x, while umask=022 will make it rwxr-xr-x. Get your user/group ids with the command "id". This also applies to NTFS. |
| 18:29.19 | Rudolf | jnc: i thinked that is my amd64 incompatibylity with system and HD |
| 18:29.24 | jnc | oh |
| 18:29.29 | obtix | rvsjoen i can chown it but when it mounts root takes it over and a normal user cant mount it even when i put the user command in fstab |
| 18:29.30 | jnc | the smart message you could probably ignore that |
| 18:29.43 | valdyn | obtix: like dpkg sais, but umask=000 and no gid or uid if you want everyone to have full access |
| 18:29.44 | jnc | Rudolf: i had a lot of strange messages from the log when my maxtors were in |
| 18:29.51 | Rudolf | jnc: huhuiehiuehe |
| 18:30.03 | FarrisG | Is there an argument you can give mutt to specify a non-default Maildir? |
| 18:30.05 | Rudolf | jnc: what bradn do you recomend? |
| 18:30.13 | jnc | Rudolf: believe it or not, the hitatchi "death stars" are fixed. |
| 18:30.13 | FarrisG | or some simple Maildir viewer? |
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| 18:30.26 | jnc | Rudolf: but i won't bet my data on that statement |
| 18:30.30 | jnc | i run seagates now |
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| 18:30.42 | rvsjoen | obtix: you set the umask and/or uid,gid in fstab |
| 18:30.42 | justdust | lex, the error states: error while activating XKB config, you're using XFree 4.3.0, problems are known, try a newer version of XFree.. |
| 18:30.47 | jnc | no more IDE drives for me |
| 18:30.51 | justdust | is there a newer one , |
| 18:30.52 | justdust | ? |
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| 18:31.01 | jnc | justdust: err... |
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| 18:31.12 | lex | justdust, This is weird.... what kind of keyboard do you have... is it english, latam, spanish.... what? |
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| 18:31.24 | justdust | lex, FRENCH |
| 18:31.24 | obtix | rvsjoen sorry, can you show me an example of how to put it in my fstab? |
| 18:31.26 | jnc | justdust: i've had that message shown to me before |
| 18:31.35 | justdust | k |
| 18:31.38 | jnc | justdust: i don't know why or how i fixed it, sorry |
| 18:31.48 | rvsjoen | I believe there was an example in dpkg's infor further up |
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| 18:31.57 | valdyn | !mouse 2.6 |
| 18:31.57 | dpkg | i guess mouse 2.6 is see: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2199 |
| 18:31.59 | justdust | jnc, do all your keys work ? |
| 18:32.01 | lex | justdust, Ah... bien... try this in a gnome-terminal or any kind of terminal that runs on your X there.... gkb_xmmap fr |
| 18:32.19 | zOap | can anyone give me an example for sending mail through terminal? Like I want to send a mail to the user fakeuser on machine 192.168.1.1? |
| 18:32.22 | jnc | justdust: i'm an american, of course they do |
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| 18:32.42 | justdust | lex, command not found... |
| 18:32.44 | lex | justdust, shit...thats old news... we dont have that anymore i think |
| 18:32.51 | jnc | better ask someone who understands foreign layouts though |
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| 18:32.52 | lex | Grumble... |
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| 18:33.08 | lex | justdust, I use spanish keyboards without problems |
| 18:33.12 | justdust | lex, sorry, forgot an m... |
| 18:33.23 | obtix | rvsjoen nm got it thanks! |
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| 18:33.28 | justdust | it's working, HALELUJAA |
| 18:33.44 | jnc | !lex++ |
| 18:33.47 | justdust | that wasn't so hard was it ? |
| 18:33.55 | valdyn | zOap: echo "text" | mail -s <subject> dest@ination |
| 18:34.03 | lex | justdust, Well... now it should be working from the applet... take it as homework and remember there is a #debian-fr or should be |
| 18:34.08 | justdust | thx allot |
| 18:34.27 | pingouin | !troll |
| 18:34.28 | brett | is there a fix for the gcc-4.1/libgcc1 dependency in unstable? |
| 18:34.32 | lex | Okidoki....have to go. |
| 18:34.36 | justdust | let's start with the soundcard now, LOL |
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| 18:35.10 | zOap | valdyn, thanks man, you saved my day:) |
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| 18:36.54 | samuel | anyone know of a decent ldap server? |
| 18:36.58 | justdust | what's a real flashy fancy multi network aim client ? |
| 18:37.09 | samuel | gaim |
| 18:37.21 | blondie | bitlbee + irssi :P |
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| 18:38.23 | su_exec | still cant install debian32 bits on my opteron64bit system |
| 18:38.31 | su_exec | do i need other boot options? |
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| 18:40.34 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 18:40.34 | dpkg | rumour has it, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 18:40.47 | valdyn | su_exec: at which stage does it hang? |
| 18:40.59 | numist | !worked in 2.4 |
| 18:40.59 | dpkg | Every time you say "___ doesn't work in 2.6, but it worked in 2.4", a 25 cent (USD) surcharge must be paid to greycat. |
| 18:41.07 | numist | yay I miss that one |
| 18:41.48 | su_exec | right after it searched for cdroms wen it goes to next screen it stays blue valdyn |
| 18:42.05 | paolo | who has got the dvd revolution os ? |
| 18:42.28 | soymilk | anyone recommend a good console font? i like misc fixed but it only goes up to 13 pt and at 1400x1050 its way too small |
| 18:42.39 | soymilk | that also supports unicode? |
| 18:42.41 | numist | soymilk: terminus |
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| 18:43.17 | soymilk | numist: great thanks |
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| 18:44.10 | su_exec | valdyn now it hangs wen scanning cdrom |
| 18:44.11 | paonia | running debian unstalbe up to date and evolution keeps crashing. Anyone else seeing this. I suspect it is a evolution dependancy issue |
| 18:44.28 | numist | sounds like you're using unstable to me |
| 18:44.45 | paonia | numist: sigh |
| 18:45.11 | abrotman | !bts |
| 18:45.12 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 18:45.18 | paonia | most days it does not live up to its name (I am happy to report) |
| 18:45.22 | valdyn | su_exec: try one of the newer installers /msg dpkg 2.6.12 or /msg dpkg 2.6.14 |
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| 18:45.56 | valdyn | su_exec: 2.6.8 might not support your sata interface or whatever it is you cdrom is on |
| 18:46.05 | su_exec | cdrom is on ide |
| 18:46.15 | valdyn | su_exec: whatever |
| 18:46.20 | su_exec | the drives use nvradi thats pretty good supported |
| 18:46.25 | paonia | I have looked in bts |
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| 18:47.01 | valdyn | su_exec: or try 'linux26 acpi=off' |
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| 18:47.15 | valdyn | su_exec: or try 'linux26 pci=noacpi |
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| 18:47.53 | valdyn | su_exec: hitting F1 at the bootprompt would probably have told you that too |
| 18:48.05 | su_exec | il try |
| 18:48.40 | soymilk | wow terminus at pixelsize 15 is awesome |
| 18:48.54 | Bushito | help..... configure: error: Could not find the Ogg library |
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| 18:49.33 | soymilk | Bushito: vorbis dev |
| 18:50.28 | Bushito | soymilk: ??? what?? |
| 18:50.44 | soymilk | libvorbis-dev |
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| 18:53.01 | sambagirl | hi i understand there is a distro in the works called debian-med. can anyone point me to where i can get a copy of this? i am looking for something for a medical facility. |
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| 18:53.10 | justdust | lex, the gkb_xmmap fr command seems to be forgotten after a reboot, is there any way I can run this for all users whenever gnome starts ? |
| 18:53.28 | sambagirl | has there been any work towards incorporating VISTA into debian-med? |
| 18:54.21 | justdust | brb, got to eat sometimes.. |
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| 18:58.06 | sambagirl | chao |
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| 18:58.45 | ma3x | how can I verify the integrity of my hard drive (partitions, badblocks) and fix if something found? note: fsck didn't help me! (external USB,Firewire Maxtor HDD) |
| 18:59.00 | misieq | what are the differences between -ac, -mm and 'original' kernel versions? |
| 18:59.14 | Elly | they're maintained by special people |
| 18:59.36 | misieq | yes, i know that. but what are the differences? |
| 18:59.45 | Eulex | ma3x, fsck verifies the integrity your filesystem. what do you mean by that it didn't help you? |
| 19:00.02 | valdyn | ma3x: 'badblocks' |
| 19:00.30 | cheal | misieq: ask #kernel |
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| 19:01.13 | valdyn | misieq: ac is + alan cox's stability fixes ( mostly ), mm is the development tree |
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| 19:04.20 | Shadowcat | !blootbot |
| 19:04.20 | dpkg | [blootbot] a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 19:04.44 | misieq | i have a bluetooth dongle which doesn't seem to be detected under my debian - hcitool dev displays nothing. i think i have all the required packages installed, so i think of compiling own kernel... which version from which brands should i use? |
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| 19:05.59 | stew | misieq: does it show up under lsusb? |
| 19:06.08 | ma3x | valdyn, I want badblocks to show me the status of it, but it doesnt! SO I dont know how long should I wait for it? |
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| 19:06.46 | EGroen | Hi, I'm with a problem, i searched man, google, but can't find it: i need to open a detached 'screen' with a screen name and execute a command inside, i tryed, -d -m -S session -X command and more but i wouldn't work, what can i do? |
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| 19:07.42 | misieq | steve, yes, i think so. i can't tell for sure, but there seems to be a difference when i lsusb when it's plugged and when it;s not |
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| 19:07.56 | misieq | stew, yes, i think so. i can't tell for sure, but there seems to be a difference when i lsusb when it's plugged and when it;s not |
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| 19:08.08 | stew | misieq: you have bluez-utils installed? |
| 19:08.33 | misieq | yes |
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| 19:08.39 | stew | misieq: and does it show up under hciconfig -a ? |
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| 19:10.01 | misieq | stew, http://pastebin.com/457446 |
| 19:10.16 | ma3x | I forgot to ask: Does badblocks mean UNREPAIRABLE damage, or just an error that can be fixed? |
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| 19:10.53 | valdyn | ma3x: unrepairable |
| 19:10.59 | stew | misieq: i'm guessing its not showing up under hcitool becuase its down, try /etc/init.d/bluez-utils restart ; or hciconfig hci0 up |
| 19:11.07 | valdyn | ma3x: if badblocks find errors its HARDWARE |
| 19:11.26 | justdust | the gkb_xmmap fr command seems to be forgotten after a reboot, is there any way I can run this for all users whenever gnome starts ? |
| 19:11.54 | valdyn | ma3x: but even then there's always a probability that its just a software bug makeing badblocks find errors |
| 19:11.55 | ma3x | valdyn, and how does badblocks mark them? on the hardware, or inside some file (that those badblocks should be skipped)? |
| 19:12.07 | valdyn | ma3x: why would it mark anything? |
| 19:12.19 | valdyn | ma3x: if badblocks finds errors, you should throw that device away |
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| 19:12.42 | lifeform | on some webpages epiphany browser takes up 100% cpu. Anyone know of a fix for this problem? |
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| 19:12.46 | ma3x | valdyn, and if it doesnt find errors? |
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| 19:12.48 | bathini | marko |
| 19:12.57 | Reilithion | polo |
| 19:13.15 | bathini | Its Anthony |
| 19:13.18 | misieq | stew, http://pastebin.com/457449 |
| 19:13.19 | valdyn | ma3x: eh? what obviously then? |
| 19:13.20 | bathini | are you here? |
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| 19:13.36 | Reilithion | !seen marko |
| 19:13.36 | dpkg | marko <n=m@159h42.ck.ukrtel.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 39d 23h 59m 17s ago, saying: 'hello, any body has websites with google pr>= pr7 ?'. |
| 19:14.01 | bathini | Thanks |
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| 19:14.13 | bathini | I will search for him on debian |
| 19:14.25 | stew | misieq: you may have just exhausted my limited bluetooth knowledge |
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| 19:14.33 | ma3x | valdyn, if badblocks doesnt find any errors, then is my hardware sane |
| 19:14.34 | ma3x | ? |
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| 19:14.45 | misieq | stew, anyway thanks |
| 19:14.56 | stew | misieq: oh i hadn't noticed that the hwaddr was all 0's before, yeah you might not have a supported dongle |
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| 19:15.16 | misieq | stew, it connected under ubuntu |
| 19:15.33 | meriad | hohohohoh merrrrryy christmass |
| 19:15.40 | meriad | stew: and what do you want little boy :) |
| 19:15.44 | meriad | stew: teehee-hee |
| 19:15.45 | misieq | stew, and as far as i remember under mandrake too |
| 19:15.54 | Eulex | Mercury, not yet, stupid ;P |
| 19:16.05 | EGroen | How can i start a screen without ataching an exec a command in it, tryed all kinds of stuff |
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| 19:16.17 | Reilithion | !bluetooth |
| 19:16.18 | dpkg | bluetooth is, like, , like, a wireless communications protocol, or http://bluetooth.com/ or about as secure as shouting |
| 19:16.28 | stew | misieq: hmm do you have the bluetooth module loaded? |
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| 19:17.06 | ma3x | stew, if badblocks doesnt find any errors on my external HDD, does it mean it's healthy? |
| 19:17.18 | misieq | stew, i think so. there is rfcomm, bluez and l2cap |
| 19:17.41 | stew | misieq: i also have one named "bluetooth" |
| 19:18.04 | misieq | stew, no, i don't have this one |
| 19:18.15 | stew | misieq: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 19:18.26 | stew | ma3x: i'd try smart as well |
| 19:18.31 | misieq | stew, 2.4.27-2-k7 |
| 19:18.32 | LSorensen | ma3x: which type of check did you ask badblocks to run? |
| 19:18.41 | stew | ma3x: from the looks of the logfile you showed yesterday, i'd say something isn't healthy |
| 19:19.16 | stew | misieq: i've only tried with 2.6 kernels, (which is probably what you were using in ubuntu and mandrake), are you running sarge or etch? |
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| 19:19.31 | misieq | stew, sarge |
| 19:19.51 | stew | misieq: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 ; would get you a 2.6 kernel to try |
| 19:20.01 | ma3x | LSorensen, which type do you mean? I just did badblocks -vs /dev/sda1. Should I have done something else? |
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| 19:20.43 | misieq | stew, will anything happen to nvidia binary drivers or some things i've compiled against my current kernel? |
| 19:21.13 | loopdee | cd |
| 19:21.14 | loopdee | clear |
| 19:21.14 | stew | misieq: well nothing will happen to them but you would have to compile new ones for 2.6 |
| 19:21.41 | misieq | stew, you think kde 3.5 could be damaged? |
| 19:21.46 | ma3x | stew, I think the drive is not supporting SMART status. what is that anyway? |
| 19:22.06 | stew | misieq: i don't know anything about kde 3.5 but i don't think it would care about a kernel switch |
| 19:22.10 | stew | !smart |
| 19:22.11 | dpkg | [smart] the opposite of stupid, or the opposite of straightforward and polite, or what I definitely am, or "Self-Monitoring, Analysis, and Reporting Technology" used by some hard drive manufacturers to detect imminent drive failure, or see the smartmontools package. |
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| 19:22.42 | LSorensen | ma3x: well if you want a real test, you run with -w (destructive write test, that writes and checks various test patterns).w |
| 19:22.54 | misieq | right, thanks |
| 19:22.59 | LSorensen | ma3x: of course that destroys the contents of the disk |
| 19:22.59 | EGroen | How can i start a screen without ataching and exec a command in it, tryed all kinds of stuff |
| 19:23.07 | Eulex | ma3x, install smartmontools and try it out... |
| 19:23.10 | ma3x | LSorensen, I am trying the -n option |
| 19:23.17 | stew | misieq: installing a 2.6 kernel doesn't remove your 2.4 kernel, you could alwyas go back |
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| 19:23.28 | ma3x | Eulex, smartmontools showed that the HDD doesnt support smart |
| 19:23.34 | LSorensen | ma3x: of course you may also have controller issues, bad cables, kernel bugs, who knows. |
| 19:23.47 | LSorensen | ma3x: smart only (last I checked) works on ide disks |
| 19:23.52 | misieq | stew, what's the difference between linux-image-... and kernel-image-... ? :| |
| 19:23.52 | LSorensen | ma3x: in linux that is |
| 19:23.53 | rvsjoen | i've recently set up a small local repository using "reprepro".. Do I seriously need to re-generate the Release.gpg file each time i'm adding another package ? Each time I add another package apt-get update reports "GPG error: file: testing Release: The following signatures were invalid" |
| 19:24.04 | LSorensen | ma3x: work is on the way for sata support at least |
| 19:24.10 | ma3x | LSorensen, this is external USB,firewire maxtor hd |
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| 19:24.28 | LSorensen | ma3x: I don't think smart support works on firewire/usb yet |
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| 19:24.54 | LSorensen | ma3x: you could of course open the case, take the disk out, connect it directly and then check the status |
| 19:25.19 | ma3x | LSorensen, I have laptop, how can I connect it directly? |
| 19:25.46 | stew | misieq: in testing and unstable the kernels have been renamed from kernel-image to linux-image to avoid conflicts with non-linux kernels |
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| 19:25.48 | LSorensen | ma3x: by using another desktop machine? |
| 19:25.58 | stew | misieq: if you are seeing linux image you aren't running sarge/stable |
| 19:26.00 | hussam | not a debian user, but does debian unstable have kde 3.4.2 or 3.4.3 ? |
| 19:26.13 | misieq | stew, thanks |
| 19:26.20 | ma3x | hussam, now 3.4.3 |
| 19:26.27 | Nwallins | is it difficult to run mysql4.1 and mysql5 side by side using etch packages? |
| 19:26.29 | stew | hussam: http://packages.debian.org/kdelibs |
| 19:26.35 | misieq | hussam, /msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 19:26.46 | misieq | bbl |
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| 19:27.44 | EGroen | How can i start a screen without attaching and exec a command in it, tryed all kinds of stuff |
| 19:28.33 | hussam | ok thanks. I'm asking because somebody at the university asked me about it and I told him is was 3.4.3 |
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| 19:28.33 | tarzeau | EGroen: screen -dmS name command |
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| 19:28.48 | EGroen | K, thanx |
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| 19:29.45 | liran_ | how can i get more description/version about a package if it isn't yet installed? |
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| 19:30.10 | manubuntu | hey every body ... some one knows a cool programm to cut videos??? Kino always crashes !!!! have an idear??? |
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| 19:30.29 | tarzeau | manubuntu: hm how do you make it crash? |
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| 19:30.38 | loopdee | mount says usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw) how do I mount that? |
| 19:30.45 | tarzeau | manubuntu: checked bts yet? wait you dont have debian, you have UBUNTO! |
| 19:30.47 | SgtYork | Running debian-31r0a. I'm looking to install svgalib 1.9.23 (1.4.3 is current version). I tried edited /etc/apt/sources.list and adding unstable.. but I still can't seem to find the 1.9.23 svgalib package but I see it on the webpahttp://packages.debian.org/experimental/graphics/svgalib-bin |
| 19:30.50 | manubuntu | i loaded an avi file |
| 19:31.13 | tarzeau | manubuntu: what is the dpkg -l kino telling you? |
| 19:31.14 | Nwallins | is it difficult to run mysql4.1 and mysql5 side by side using etch packages? |
| 19:31.16 | Yarou | lolol |
| 19:31.19 | manubuntu | wait |
| 19:31.21 | manubuntu | i look |
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| 19:31.47 | manubuntu | looks good from this side |
| 19:31.55 | SgtYork | I'm not super famliar with debian -- getting better at it - but I suppose I just somehow need to find the right repository for the updated svgalib - how should I go about that? |
| 19:32.04 | tarzeau | manubuntu: where in .ch are you? |
| 19:32.20 | tarzeau | manubuntu: what about cinelerra btw? |
| 19:32.20 | cheal | SgtYork: that's an experimental package, not an unstable one |
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| 19:32.43 | manubuntu | in Basel |
| 19:32.43 | cheal | SgtYork: use an experimental repository instead of unstable |
| 19:32.46 | manubuntu | :) |
| 19:33.16 | mfrisch | When did Novell buy Evolution??? :-( |
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| 19:33.23 | manubuntu | and you ? |
| 19:33.28 | manubuntu | tarrzo |
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| 19:34.53 | bucky | mfrisch, when Miguel De Icaza sold it to them |
| 19:34.54 | quitte | mfrisch: was it owned by suse before? |
| 19:35.00 | zOap | how do i set up exim4 or other to serve as mail server? |
| 19:35.04 | manubuntu | what did you mean with cinelerra? tarzeau? |
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| 19:35.34 | tarzeau | manubuntu: 20:30 < manubuntu> hey every body ... some one knows a cool programm to cut videos??? Kino always crashes !!!! have an idear??? |
| 19:35.38 | philips | quitte: no |
| 19:35.43 | mfrisch | bucky news to me |
| 19:35.49 | tarzeau | manubuntu: what says this now: 20:31 < tarzeau> manubuntu: what is the dpkg -l kino telling you? |
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| 19:36.10 | bucky | tarzeau, maybe look into cinerella |
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| 19:36.15 | tarzeau | bucky: huh? |
| 19:36.20 | manubuntu | Souhait=inconnU/Installé/suppRimé/Purgé/H=à garder |
| 19:36.20 | manubuntu | | État=Non/Installé/fichier-Config/dépaqUeté/échec-conFig/H=semi-installé |
| 19:36.20 | manubuntu | |/ Err?=(aucune)/H=à garder/besoin Réinstallation/X=les deux (État,Err: majuscule=mauvais) |
| 19:36.20 | manubuntu | ||/ Nom Version Description |
| 19:36.20 | manubuntu | +++-==============-==============-============================================ |
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| 19:36.24 | bucky | tarzeau, video editing? |
| 19:36.31 | tarzeau | bucky: i didn't ask for it |
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| 19:36.52 | manubuntu | sorry |
| 19:36.56 | manubuntu | it is french |
| 19:37.01 | bucky | tarzeau, oh.. it was your buddy manubuntu.. sorry |
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| 19:37.04 | tarzeau | manubuntu: it's missing the information i want |
| 19:37.14 | manubuntu | so |
| 19:37.19 | tarzeau | manubuntu: only post the line with the version number |
| 19:37.21 | SgtYork | cheal: ok thanks, incidently, I found it in http://ftp.ndlug.nd.edu/mirrors/debian/dists/experimental/main/binary-i386/Packages - however after doing apt-get update, then running aptitude - it still only shows 1.4.3? |
| 19:37.23 | bucky | manubuntu, don't paste in the channel read /topic |
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| 19:37.38 | manubuntu | ok |
| 19:37.40 | cheal | SgtYork: sorry, I don't know aptitude |
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| 19:38.12 | SgtYork | well, I tried apt-get install to... is there a way to be version specific? should I try dselect? |
| 19:38.28 | manubuntu | is there an other programm then kino tarzeau ? |
| 19:38.39 | tarzeau | manubuntu: cinelerra |
| 19:38.44 | manubuntu | ok |
| 19:38.44 | bucky | manubuntu, are you running ubuntu? |
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| 19:38.55 | manubuntu | before debian .. know ubuntu |
| 19:39.00 | loopdee | !kernel |
| 19:39.02 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.14.3, prepatch: 2.6.15-rc5, snapshot: 2.6.15-rc5-git1, 2.4: 2.4.32, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.15-rc5-mm1 |
| 19:39.03 | manubuntu | but some aplication are the same |
| 19:39.10 | bucky | manubuntu, you're in the wrong channel /j #ubuntu |
| 19:39.26 | manubuntu | i know .. some time the people in debian knows more |
| 19:39.27 | manubuntu | :) |
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| 19:39.43 | npx | a lot of the time =) |
| 19:39.44 | manubuntu | but it s ok |
| 19:39.47 | bucky | manubuntu, go to you're own distribution's channel |
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| 19:39.52 | manubuntu | thanks for help |
| 19:39.55 | bucky | manubuntu, no it's not ok |
| 19:40.02 | manubuntu | by |
| 19:40.07 | npx | bucky, no, really it is okay |
| 19:40.36 | bucky | the idiot comes here and floods the channel.. he's using ubuntu... what could be more cliche? |
| 19:40.42 | beoba | WHERE THE BITCHES AT?: http://www.oba.be/gfx/beeld_vraag.jpg |
| 19:40.49 | npx | hahahah more cliche? |
| 19:41.02 | npx | someone in #debian being a dick about someone asking a question about ubuntu |
| 19:41.15 | npx | that qualifies! |
| 19:41.18 | bucky | npx, i'm your fantasy |
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| 19:41.52 | bucky | npx, /join #ubuntu |
| 19:42.02 | npx | bucky get off my balls |
| 19:42.03 | npx | thx |
| 19:42.04 | Yarou | lololol |
| 19:42.05 | Yarou | ubuntu |
| 19:42.09 | Yarou | ubuntu roxx |
| 19:42.13 | Yarou | just like Simple Plan |
| 19:42.22 | bucky | another stupid ubuntu user wants to argue why we should support his distro |
| 19:42.38 | npx | His distro is nearly indistinguishable from yours |
| 19:42.54 | npx | For all practical purposes, other than the KDE/gnome packages they're the same damn thig |
| 19:42.54 | bucky | npx, wrong again sherlock |
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| 19:43.07 | npx | if he hadn't said he ran ubuntu, you would have never known |
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| 19:43.30 | Nwallins | his nick was a pretty good indicator |
| 19:43.34 | danathan | i just installed etch on an amd64 box, and i've got apache2 & php5 up and running great -- debian rocks -- and i'm wondering about apache mpms and php. i've also got php5 set up as a cgi, which is probably the slowest of all possible worlds. does anyone know of any good guides on thread safety? and should i run php as a cgi, or fcgi it, or mod it? |
| 19:43.35 | SgtYork | ah, managed to download and dpkg -i the file from the pool directly... |
| 19:43.43 | npx | Oh really? Please, enlighten me, what are the enormous differences between ubuntu and debian? |
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| 19:43.50 | bucky | with a nick like manbuntu i figured it out... that and the flood |
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| 19:44.14 | Yarou | lol |
| 19:44.14 | Supaplex | npx: spare this channel this debate one more time. go search a mailling list or something |
| 19:44.17 | loopdee | does debian kernel releases default everything ( most everything ) to modules, but at least everythign is included? |
| 19:44.50 | tarzeau | loopdee: more or less, but the kernels are old with stable |
| 19:45.04 | cheal | loopdee: stock kernels don't include everything |
| 19:45.10 | Supaplex | loopdee: the .config's are in /boot/Config* |
| 19:45.28 | Nwallins | danathan: i could only get apt to install the prefork apache2... i wasn't worried about using non-threadsafe libs but I couldn't get threaded apache2 using packages |
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| 19:45.34 | Elly | grawr, wine seems to be ignoring my config file |
| 19:45.37 | loopdee | thanks guyus |
| 19:45.38 | Nwallins | danathan: with php |
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| 19:45.45 | tvn | the features that Debian's kernel does not have are probably not what you usually need either |
| 19:45.48 | npx | I run both on a regular basis. For 99.99995% of your basic day-to-day tasks, they're identical. If you don't want to answer an Ubuntu users' question, that's great, don't, but don't pretend you can't answer them because it's so different from mainline debian |
| 19:45.58 | npx | It's just bullshit |
| 19:46.01 | Supaplex | Elly: that's because wine uses the registry now. winecfg or wineconfig I think it is |
| 19:46.08 | danathan | Nwallins: that's what I'm getting, too, I think. |
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| 19:46.28 | bucky | npx, i dont care.. it's not the same.. if you don't have anything to contribute to this channel except your stupid argument then leave |
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| 19:46.36 | zerve_the_death | m64 |
| 19:46.40 | danathan | Nwallins: are you using php 5? mod or cgi? |
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| 19:46.41 | Nwallins | danathan: i'm happy. i was curious about running threaded apache2 for shitsngiggles but gave up |
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| 19:46.52 | beoba | OLO |
| 19:46.54 | Elly | Supaplex: so why doesn't winesetup take that into account? |
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| 19:47.00 | Nwallins | danathan: mod_php4 |
| 19:47.22 | bucky | Nwallins, you can only run php4 on prefork |
| 19:47.25 | ano1 | what is this room for? |
| 19:47.26 | Supaplex | Elly: old school. =) |
| 19:47.27 | danathan | Nwallins: thanks. i've got 2 GB of RAM, so i'm not really stressed about it. is there a place where i can see what's threadsafe and what isn't? |
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| 19:47.30 | Nwallins | this is for sarge, which doesn't have 5. though i just upgraded to etch today |
| 19:47.34 | Elly | Supaplex: so how do I configure it properly? |
| 19:47.35 | ano1 | blah blah blah |
| 19:47.43 | bucky | ano1, debian.. |
| 19:47.46 | bucky | !debian |
| 19:47.46 | dpkg | [debian] http://www.debian.org. See http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/project-history/index.en.html#contents |
| 19:47.52 | ano1 | what is debian |
| 19:47.53 | ano1 | oh ok |
| 19:48.07 | ano1 | totally free? |
| 19:48.09 | Elly | I want Se4.exe to run in a managed window |
| 19:48.10 | Supaplex | Elly: winecfg |
| 19:48.14 | blondie | ano1: yes |
| 19:48.20 | ano1 | awesome |
| 19:48.26 | SimonRaven | irc 'rooms' are called channels |
| 19:48.31 | ano1 | oh sry |
| 19:48.38 | SimonRaven | np |
| 19:48.39 | ano1 | just started to try this |
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| 19:48.48 | blondie | what does "sry" mean? :P |
| 19:48.52 | ano1 | sorry |
| 19:49.02 | Elly | aha |
| 19:49.03 | ano1 | sry = sorry |
| 19:49.03 | blondie | oh right |
| 19:49.06 | ano1 | haha |
| 19:49.06 | Elly | winecfg is what I wanted |
| 19:49.07 | Elly | thanks |
| 19:49.09 | blondie | well not really |
| 19:49.11 | Nwallins | ano1: this channel opposes abbreviations, generally |
| 19:49.13 | Supaplex | np Elly |
| 19:49.15 | blondie | "sry" is not a word, but "sorry" is |
| 19:49.24 | ano1 | true |
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| 19:49.46 | ano1 | heard you can download programs and games on irc |
| 19:49.55 | Elly | hmmmm |
| 19:50.01 | Elly | it's still not being a window properly |
| 19:50.05 | npx | Unless those abbreviations constitute incoherent program names, in which case we embrace them with open arms =) |
| 19:50.12 | Supaplex | ano1: debian uses repositories for that. |
| 19:50.19 | Nwallins | ano1: freenode is for software that is already free. if you're looking for pirated software, you've come to the wrong place |
| 19:50.20 | ano1 | repositories? |
| 19:50.34 | ano1 | sounds like supositories |
| 19:50.43 | Elly | that looks better |
| 19:50.53 | ano1 | i'm going to leave now |
| 19:50.59 | Supaplex | ano1: is that were you pull your puns? |
| 19:51.01 | Supaplex | :P |
| 19:51.08 | ano1 | yea |
| 19:51.15 | Nwallins | ano1: freenode and IRC are not optimum data sources... they are more for human communications. pirated software likes IRC for anonymity/obscurity |
| 19:51.25 | ano1 | oh i see |
| 19:51.32 | npx | ano1, bittorrent ft |
| 19:51.34 | npx | ftw |
| 19:51.36 | ano1 | don't really know much about this as you can tell |
| 19:51.44 | ano1 | some but not much |
| 19:52.05 | ano1 | so is debian like windows? |
| 19:52.05 | Nwallins | ano1: explore "free software" it's much more rewarding and generally works better than pirated stuff |
| 19:52.26 | npx | ano1, It can be made to look like windows |
| 19:52.29 | Supaplex | more bang for the buck =) |
| 19:52.32 | SimonRaven | warez are off-topic in fact. debian is a whole OS, not just a program. nothing like windows |
| 19:52.43 | ano1 | oh |
| 19:52.46 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: debian is three OSs |
| 19:52.48 | Nwallins | ano1: for basic questions, try http://debian.org/ debian and windows are in the same category: Operating Systems |
| 19:52.57 | ano1 | ok will look now |
| 19:53.11 | SimonRaven | the only resemblance to windows it has is they are OSes. that's true, my bad. 3 |
| 19:53.30 | SimonRaven | debian gnu/hurd, gnu/linux gnu/kfreebsd |
| 19:53.36 | npx | Honestly, though, Debian and Windows are pretty comparable if you just compare the first Debian install CD to a windows XP install C |
| 19:53.39 | Yarou | GNU Project |
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| 19:54.14 | ano1 | that's so weird i'm surprised there isn't a price for it |
| 19:54.26 | Yarou | IPv6'd. |
| 19:54.38 | Yarou | ano1: you have much to learn about open source. |
| 19:54.40 | Nwallins | ano1: wow, there is a huge world out there that you're about to discover |
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| 19:54.59 | SimonRaven | the maintainers are volunteers. |
| 19:54.59 | ano1 | nwallins: ya i think so |
| 19:55.06 | SimonRaven | *HUGE* |
| 19:55.10 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 19:55.27 | cheal | npx: haha :) |
| 19:55.34 | ano1 | how many people use debian? |
| 19:55.36 | npx | If you already run Windows and just want to get your feet wet, see what it's all about, you might wanna check cygwin out |
| 19:55.39 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:55.39 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure populartiy-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 19:56.04 | stew | ano1: there is no good way to figure that out |
| 19:56.11 | ano1 | i think i'm gonna download this and check it out tonight |
| 19:56.13 | Supaplex | does lynx support ip6? |
| 19:56.28 | ano1 | thx guys cul |
| 19:56.44 | SimonRaven | Supaplex: does it? :P |
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| 19:56.47 | justdust | a little question, if I att-get a program with tty1, how can I refresh tty7 (gnome) without logout/login ? |
| 19:56.49 | stew | ano1: if you've never used linux before i'd suggest you try ubuntu instead of debian to get your feet wet |
| 19:57.01 | ano1 | ubuntu? |
| 19:57.03 | stew | justdust: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 19:57.05 | Yarou | nah, he'll be fine with Debian |
| 19:57.06 | Supaplex | SimonRaven: http://www.whatismyip6.com/ says I'm connected via ip4 |
| 19:57.07 | tarzeau | justdust: which program? |
| 19:57.11 | justdust | thx stew |
| 19:57.19 | bucky | Yarou, you like ubuntu! |
| 19:57.22 | bucky | comon |
| 19:57.23 | Yarou | it doesn't take rocket science to perform cmd's |
| 19:57.28 | philips | ano1: http://ubuntulinux.org/ |
| 19:57.32 | Yarou | ubuntu rox |
| 19:57.34 | Yarou | ez |
| 19:57.38 | Yarou | it owned my kernelmode so well |
| 19:57.41 | Yarou | before i got to nop my xor |
| 19:57.42 | bucky | Yarou, and the support in #ubuntu is sooo good |
| 19:57.46 | Yarou | of course |
| 19:57.51 | SimonRaven | Supaplex: could be your tunnel. try with another browser at www.kame.net - dancing turtle == ipv6 workie |
| 19:57.54 | Yarou | it's l337er than Microl33t |
| 19:57.58 | ano1 | how many different os |
| 19:58.05 | Yarou | Microl33t ownz all of Lunix |
| 19:58.06 | ano1 | are there? |
| 19:58.18 | stew | ano1: http://distrowatch.com |
| 19:58.18 | ano1 | how many different os's are there? |
| 19:58.31 | SimonRaven | Yarou: right. |
| 19:58.33 | bucky | Yarou, the support in #ubuntu is so good that's why no one ever asks ubuntu questions in here |
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| 19:58.41 | SimonRaven | *plonk* |
| 19:58.42 | cheal | ano1: if you count different GNU/Linux distributions as gifferent OS, there are many OS |
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| 19:58.44 | ano1 | wow |
| 19:58.47 | justdust | stew, that doesn't seem to work..., it justsays gdm already started, stopped... |
| 19:58.52 | Yarou | i need someone to teach me Visual Basic |
| 19:58.58 | Yarou | that's the best programming language in the world |
| 19:59.02 | Yarou | VB ftw! |
| 19:59.04 | tarzeau | cheal: i wouldn't count them as different |
| 19:59.06 | bucky | Yarou, you need an op to ban you |
| 19:59.12 | Moeen | Yarou, yes, it's great :D |
| 19:59.12 | tarzeau | cheal: it's just different applications (package management tools) |
| 19:59.13 | justdust | tarzeau, I just installed gaim-themes... |
| 19:59.19 | Nwallins | Yarou: first visit your neurologist. then ask for a lobotomy |
| 19:59.26 | tarzeau | justdust: and why do you tell me? i hate gaim, i hate gtk, i hate gnome |
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| 19:59.33 | SimonRaven | !ops Yarou is trolling needlessly |
| 19:59.33 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: Yarou is trolling needlessly |
| 19:59.52 | bucky | you're next npx |
| 19:59.53 | cheal | tarzeau: yeah, but it's a vague question anyway |
| 19:59.53 | Yarou | trolling? |
| 19:59.53 | Moeen | tarzeau, I love Gaim, I love GTK, I love Gome :D |
| 19:59.56 | Yarou | what means that |
| 20:00.00 | Yarou | i am noob |
| 20:00.03 | Nwallins | talking out of your ass |
| 20:00.14 | Yarou | o ok |
| 20:00.15 | tarzeau | Moeen: why do you tell me? do you want to marry me or what? |
| 20:00.17 | npx | What the fuck? |
| 20:00.17 | Elly | Supaplex: I still can't get one program to start up larger than 640x480 |
| 20:00.20 | tarzeau | 20:59 [gnu] CTCP VERSION reply from Yarou: nbs-irc 2.0 (mIRC 6.16) - www.nbs-irc.net |
| 20:00.24 | soymilk | !start a widget set war |
| 20:00.31 | npx | Trolling? if calling bullshit on you is trolling, then I am the lord of the trolls |
| 20:00.39 | Supaplex | Nwallins: he is? I know his breath is about the same, but that explains the change in pitch! =-D |
| 20:00.43 | blondie | Yarou bend over |
| 20:00.46 | soymilk | oh well |
| 20:00.55 | Moeen | tarzeau, I don't like what I like, so I want to know about it :P |
| 20:01.00 | Yarou | someone kline me |
| 20:01.01 | Yarou | o ok |
| 20:01.01 | Yarou | o ok |
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| 20:01.08 | mentor | heh |
| 20:01.12 | mentor | That sorted itself out |
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| 20:01.55 | Elly | ? |
| 20:01.56 | Yarou | was i banned |
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| 20:02.03 | Nwallins | heh |
| 20:02.04 | *** mode/#Debian [+b *!*@ool-44c599e4.dyn.optonline.net] by mentor |
| 20:02.04 | *** kick/#debian [Yarou!n=matthew@unaffiliated/mentor] by mentor (mentor) |
| 20:02.07 | RichiH | hey |
| 20:02.08 | *** mode/#Debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 20:02.10 | *** mode/#Debian [-o caphuso] by caphuso |
| 20:02.14 | RichiH | i wanted to do that :( |
| 20:02.20 | Moeen | wow, mentor is dangerious :P |
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| 20:02.37 | Elly | so, anyone happen to know why total annihilation refuses to start larger than 640x480? |
| 20:02.39 | tarzeau | Moeen: without i |
| 20:02.41 | Elly | (in Wine) |
| 20:02.42 | RichiH | ./whois Yarou |
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| 20:03.25 | npx | Elly, it probably figures your "graphics device" can't handle any more than that, or you set Wine to start in a 640x480 window |
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| 20:03.28 | Moeen | tarzeau, with I ! I don't like what I like :D something recursive ;) |
| 20:03.30 | Yarou | { |
| 20:03.30 | Yarou | for (list<StaticData>::iterator iter = static_rips.begin(); iter != static_rips.end(); ++iter) |
| 20:03.30 | Yarou | if (iter->address <= address && iter->address + iter->size >= address + size) |
| 20:03.32 | Yarou | return true; |
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| 20:03.33 | blondie | spam |
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| 20:03.42 | Elly | npx: I set it to start ato 1024x768 |
| 20:03.48 | mentor | That's going to piss of that shells place |
| 20:03.51 | *** mode/#Debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 20:03.56 | blondie | mentor: did you want to ban someone else? :) |
| 20:03.57 | Elly | but it stays at 640x480 |
| 20:04.03 | npx | Elly, then it sounds like an issue with wine's directx implementation then |
| 20:04.10 | *** mode/#Debian [+b *!*@tcsh.shell.la] by mentor |
| 20:04.11 | npx | Elly, you might try using winex |
| 20:04.13 | *** mode/#Debian [-o mentor] by ChanServ |
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| 20:04.16 | SimonRaven | thanks |
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| 20:04.19 | tarzeau | mentor: while you are at it, can you unban my friends in #debian.tr ? |
| 20:04.24 | blondie | hmm |
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| 20:04.35 | mentor | tarzeau: From here? |
| 20:04.44 | tarzeau | well they can't join #debian |
| 20:04.49 | Elly | no such package as winex, npx |
| 20:04.52 | mentor | tarzeau: names? |
| 20:04.56 | tarzeau | or can dpkg/apt be in there?, let me check |
| 20:05.00 | npx | Elly, you have to build it yourself |
| 20:05.04 | Elly | rats |
| 20:05.06 | Elly | where can I get it? |
| 20:05.09 | tarzeau | mentor: CaWIss |
| 20:05.20 | npx | Elly, http://www.transgaming.com/ |
| 20:05.21 | tarzeau | mentor: could there be a nationwide ban on turkey? |
| 20:05.29 | Eclipser | winex is called cedega nowadays |
| 20:05.33 | SimonRaven | probaClby have to set an exception for their hosts |
| 20:05.38 | SimonRaven | probably* |
| 20:05.53 | npx | if you're interested in gaming with wine it's definitely worth buying Cedega, but you can still use winex source from the sourceforge cvs |
| 20:06.22 | Eclipser | there's a nice script which downloads and builds the script from cedega cvs |
| 20:07.00 | Eclipser | Elly, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45 |
| 20:07.03 | npx | Yeah. You miss out on the launcher, which can launch a game with one of any number of Cedega builds (to compensate for regressions etc) |
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| 20:07.32 | Eclipser | the launcher is for n00bs :p |
| 20:07.36 | npx | They're a cool company with a cool product, though. If you like it, I really suggest getting an account with them. |
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| 20:07.48 | npx | Yeah. Real gamers just run windows =) |
| 20:07.54 | Eclipser | I'd much rather support porting games to linux |
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| 20:08.05 | Elly | WineX has no file downloads :( |
| 20:08.10 | Elly | (on sourceforge) |
| 20:08.10 | Eclipser | such project discourages that |
| 20:08.13 | rutski89 | I'm having issues with vsftpd, does anyone here use it? |
| 20:08.16 | Eclipser | Elly, check my url |
| 20:08.16 | npx | Elly, CVS |
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| 20:08.47 | Elly | aha |
| 20:08.54 | Moeen | rutski89, I don't use it, but what's wrong with it ? |
| 20:09.08 | mentor | There's a huge ban on 85.10* |
| 20:09.15 | Eclipser | Elly, there's also a channel for cedega, #cedega :p |
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| 20:09.22 | npx | yeah that's a noob subnet mentor |
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| 20:09.29 | npx | they think they're so cool |
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| 20:09.36 | npx | with their 85 and their10 |
| 20:09.44 | caphuso | no, it's spambot country |
| 20:10.06 | rutski89 | Moeen: my config file file says "local_enable=YES and chroot_local_user=YES", but after I login and authenticate, i get "error: can't read this dirrectory" wherever i go |
| 20:10.12 | mentor | caphuso: Want to leave it in? |
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| 20:10.44 | Moeen | rutski89, all the Permissions are correct ? |
| 20:10.48 | caphuso | mentor: well, personally i don't care, except for the !ops aeiuaie is joining and quitting a lot |
| 20:10.58 | dli | eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/usr/sbin/ntop[12246]) |
| 20:11.06 | usn | hi folx |
| 20:11.07 | dli | I got this from chkrootkit |
| 20:11.15 | rutski89 | Moeen: there's nothing weird about em if that's what you mean. |
| 20:11.35 | rutski89 | Moeen: ueres's own their own home dirrectories and stuff, yes ;_p |
| 20:11.35 | mentor | Well, I'll be around for the foreseeable |
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| 20:11.44 | tarzeau | dli: so? |
| 20:11.53 | tarzeau | dli: and you didn't install/run ntop? |
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| 20:12.03 | fmp20 | oi |
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| 20:12.14 | Eulex | !br |
| 20:12.14 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:12.18 | Moeen | rutski89, sometimes there are some option for example user&pass use just as auth. and see the directories with user "nobody" |
| 20:12.35 | fmp20 | de onde e essa sala |
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| 20:12.59 | Moeen | fmp20, alda e porga de pora letti aba |
| 20:12.59 | Eulex | fmp20, english please, or goto #debian-br |
| 20:13.03 | rutski89 | Moeen: hmm, i just tried to login via firefox, and i got "error, bad IP", could this be because i'm testing it from within my own network? |
| 20:13.11 | fmp20 | que e o adm |
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| 20:13.43 | Moeen | rutski89, I don't think so ... |
| 20:13.56 | rutski89 | Moeen: hmm, care to test it for me? |
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| 20:14.16 | Moeen | rutski89, ok, will do |
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| 20:17.38 | klync_ | i'm mixing stable / unstable sources... does the order i have them listed in sources.list affect what's "available"? I have APT::Default-Release "stable"; in my apt.conf, but it wants to upgrade to gcc-4.0 |
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| 20:18.11 | stew | klync_: mixing stable and unstable is a horrible idea |
| 20:18.26 | tarzeau | klync_: don't mix them |
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| 20:18.33 | klync_ | foad |
| 20:18.48 | tarzeau | !bobbitt |
| 20:18.48 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 20:18.59 | crash3m_ | klync_: google debian pinwheeling |
| 20:19.10 | tarzeau | crash3m_: no, just don't do it |
| 20:19.19 | crash3m_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:19.25 | tarzeau | crash3m_: really, don't |
| 20:19.30 | crash3m_ | tarzeau: ok fine |
| 20:19.40 | crash3m_ | tarzeau: I dont...but whats wrong with telling someone how to do something wrong, the right way? heh |
| 20:19.49 | inc|freaky | hi all, im running debian etch and im thinking about upgrading php4 to php5 ... can i just do apt-get install php5 and everything should work? pls answer some1 who allready did the upgrade :) |
| 20:20.00 | tarzeau | crash3m_: heh, he'll suffer after all. |
| 20:20.02 | klync_ | ya know, i didn't ask for your opinions on the subject stew, tarzeau.... if you don't have an answer to my question, then silence will suffice |
| 20:20.07 | OM1manny | i mixed to install firefox once, no problems so far |
| 20:20.19 | crash3m_ | tarzeau: sometimes, you just have to learn the hard way |
| 20:20.26 | tarzeau | klync_: so what? then don't ask at all |
| 20:20.30 | tarzeau | klync_: if you want silence |
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| 20:21.03 | danathan | inc|freaky: i'm running php5 on etch without any difficulties. it was a fresh install, though. |
| 20:21.03 | tarzeau | crash3m_: yeah i know that |
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| 20:21.12 | inc|freaky | hm |
| 20:21.21 | klync_ | tarzeau: why do you pretend i asked for your opinion about whether mixing is a good idea? i only asked if the order affects what's listed as available... got an answer to that? |
| 20:21.22 | tarzeau | crash3m_: and i always find it funny when they get to me telling "it doesn't work" ... |
| 20:21.23 | inc|freaky | any1 did the upgrade? |
| 20:21.35 | stew | klync_: the answer to your question is no |
| 20:21.42 | klync_ | stew: thanks.... |
| 20:21.42 | crash3m_ | tarzeau: heh, and totally forget to mention that they mixed sources? thats always a blast |
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| 20:21.53 | npx | you could install a different distro into a chroot environment |
| 20:21.56 | Yp3rite | hello someone can help me on ndiswrapper? |
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| 20:22.06 | tarzeau | crash3m_: complete idiots, as if i didn't tell them before |
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| 20:22.11 | klync_ | sorry to be snappy all, but i thought this chan was notorious for following irc nettiquete |
| 20:22.13 | crash3m_ | tarzeau: hehe |
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| 20:22.28 | tarzeau | klync_: care to read the channel faq? |
| 20:22.36 | stew | klync_: please don't ask for advice in this channel if you are going to mix stable and unstable, its not supported |
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| 20:23.02 | tarzeau | stew: we know the reasons why, but he didn't ask for why not |
| 20:23.04 | Yp3rite | Please :) Probleme with ndiswrapper |
| 20:23.05 | Yp3rite | <! |
| 20:23.07 | npx | klync, if you want to do that, you can install stable in a chroot environment |
| 20:23.09 | klync_ | stew: i wasn't asking for advice, that's my point... i was asking if the order affects what's available... it's a pretty simple question |
| 20:23.13 | Yp3rite | loadnidswrapper failed!< |
| 20:23.14 | npx | and they'll be completely seperate. |
| 20:23.17 | jimr | stew: followed your instructions - now at 2.4.27-2-686. System seems MUCH more stable and is using less cpu and memory. I'll probably stay at this kernel release level for a few days before taking on sarge .... thanks for your help! |
| 20:23.21 | stew | klync_: i will not withhold my advice for you |
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| 20:23.47 | stew | jimr: cool |
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| 20:23.50 | tarzeau | it can't be answered since it's not supposed to be done |
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| 20:23.54 | klync_ | stew: i appreciate you're trying to save me a headache thx |
| 20:24.03 | klync_ | (no sarcasm intended) |
| 20:24.06 | tarzeau | just like a bread knife is not made to end human life |
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| 20:24.22 | larmer | hi guys. I have problem: all programs run by my default user say that there's no sound card installed. Programs run by root are able to use the sound card |
| 20:24.24 | Yp3rite | loadnidswrapper failed!< |
| 20:24.27 | Yp3rite | Please :) Probleme with ndiswrapper |
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| 20:24.33 | tarzeau | Yp3rite: stop repeating |
| 20:24.45 | tarzeau | larmer: add the user to audio group? |
| 20:24.46 | Yp3rite | oups :| |
| 20:24.49 | danathan | larmer: check the permissions of /dev/dsp |
| 20:25.24 | mrtwister | hello... debian sarge and... atal error: Call to undefined function: mysql_pconnect() in /var/www/billing/admin.... php4-pear and php4-mysql installed. why i see this error, what missed? |
| 20:25.27 | stew | jimr: although if you got 2.4.27-2 and not 2.4.18 that means your sources are already pointing at stable aka sarge, and you are probably running a half-updated system |
| 20:26.28 | stew | mrtwister: is extension=mysql.so (or somethign similar) in /etc/php4/apache/php.ini? |
| 20:26.38 | SimonRaven | i like x, but sometimes it's a pain when your box is swapping like mad |
| 20:26.41 | tarzeau | .o( good it's not anal error ) |
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| 20:26.53 | npx | SimonRaven, it's 2005 man, who has swap?! |
| 20:26.54 | larmer | tarzeau & danathan, ohoo it was because of the permissions. thanks. |
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| 20:27.09 | SimonRaven | npx: smart people |
| 20:27.20 | npx | poor people =P |
| 20:27.34 | tarzeau | npx: poor people don't have swap since they need every byte on the harddisk |
| 20:27.34 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 20:27.39 | tarzeau | npx: and use swapfiles dynamically |
| 20:27.48 | SimonRaven | yes we do have swap |
| 20:28.12 | SimonRaven | when you find 7500 rpm scsi drives ;) |
| 20:28.28 | bucky | those are ubuntu drives |
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| 20:28.47 | tarzeau | SimonRaven: even then it's way slower than memory |
| 20:28.49 | SimonRaven | i don't get the joke |
| 20:28.50 | Yp3rite | someone can help me please ? |
| 20:28.54 | SimonRaven | tarzeau: duh |
| 20:28.58 | tarzeau | Yp3rite: seems not like it |
| 20:28.59 | npx | that's because it's not funny simon |
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| 20:29.19 | Yp3rite | ^^ |
| 20:29.21 | SimonRaven | no, bucky's 'those are ubuntu drives' |
| 20:29.24 | bucky | had to be around earlier when npx gave his discourse about why ubuntu is the same as debian |
| 20:29.41 | Nwallins | is it difficult to run mysql server 4.1 side by side with 5.0 using etch packages? |
| 20:29.44 | SimonRaven | Yp3rite: need more info, unless i missed it |
| 20:30.07 | Yp3rite | what u want to know SimonRaven |
| 20:30.10 | SimonRaven | probably not. just make sure your DBs and ports are different |
| 20:30.15 | npx | had to be around to see bucky avoid pointing out any flaws in my argument in lieu of saying zomg TROLL U R DUM |
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| 20:30.30 | SimonRaven | oh that. nm, i GTG |
| 20:30.39 | bucky | so npx tell us again why you use ubuntu |
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| 20:30.51 | npx | because it comes with nice KDE packages |
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| 20:33.05 | SimonRaven | Yp3rite: like what the errors are, any info on the device, etc. but ask someone else, and don't paste here (/msg dpkg paste) |
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| 20:33.10 | SimonRaven | fucking spam bots |
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| 20:33.23 | jimr | stew: so I should go on and follow the dkpg woody > sarge process now? |
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| 20:33.53 | CHRiSNEW | hi guys |
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| 20:33.58 | Yp3rite | can u help me SimonRaven ? i can msg u my errors? |
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| 20:34.06 | dnc | ok, ive gone done and broken something. im a fairly new apt-get convert, but now i think ive b0rked up a apache/php install. "dpkg-reconfigure apache |
| 20:34.06 | dnc | " tells me it'll setup php, but it doesnt seem to work - any ideas what i can do now? |
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| 20:34.25 | Nwallins | dnc: doesn't work? |
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| 20:34.29 | SimonRaven | no, i'm leaving soon. putting on boots right now |
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| 20:35.05 | liran_ | is it possible to connect with vnc or something to the current X session i'm logged on to? |
| 20:35.34 | Nwallins | yeah, when your mouse starts moving funny, that's me ;) |
| 20:35.40 | dnc | Nwallins: apache is running fine, php doesnt work. the configs dont allow me to put "AddModule" manually in modules.conf and running the /usr/sbin/apache-modconf tool doesnt get php as a loaded module |
| 20:35.55 | liran_ | haha |
| 20:35.58 | bobw | on a 2 cpu server, does TOP show me both load averages? |
| 20:36.00 | liran_ | good one :) |
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| 20:36.10 | bbrazil | bobw: no |
| 20:36.24 | bucky | dnc apache-modconf is for apache 1.3 is that what you're running? |
| 20:36.26 | bbrazil | bobw: the definition of load is the average number of processes waiting to run |
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| 20:36.40 | dnc | Server version: Apache/1.3.33 (Debian GNU/Linux) |
| 20:36.41 | dnc | yup |
| 20:36.46 | bobw | bbrazil, is there a way to see what cpu the processes are running on? |
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| 20:36.58 | daniele83 | hi! i've problems using xdmcp. I've gdm on 2 comp in LAN. If I launch the xdmcp chooser on one comp and select the other one, then it will appen nothing. What should I do to have a remote session with gdm? |
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| 20:37.10 | dnc | but all the faqs and stuff dont seem to mention modules.conf as being for 1.3 they all seem to refer to the contents of modules.conf being inline in httpd.conf |
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| 20:37.13 | bbrazil | bobw: on linux I don't know how |
| 20:37.14 | phycho | anyone had a problem with the latest testing build? |
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| 20:37.23 | SimonRaven | bobw: you can make it do that though. *really* going now :) |
| 20:37.24 | phycho | when using apt, it sticks at 0% [Waiting for headers] |
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| 20:37.29 | phycho | when trying to install a lot of stuff at once |
| 20:37.32 | abrotman | phycho: could you be anymore vauge ? |
| 20:37.34 | phycho | and its rather annoying to say the least |
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| 20:37.44 | phycho | eer.. i just said what the issue was |
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| 20:37.49 | phycho | apt hanging during install |
| 20:37.56 | abrotman | you mean of the installer ? |
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| 20:38.04 | phycho | no i mean trying to do apt-get upgrade |
| 20:38.11 | phycho | and it hangs at "waiting for headers" |
| 20:38.13 | abrotman | try another mirror .. maybe yours is offline |
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| 20:38.17 | Blissex | daniele83: there are a lot of HOWTOs on XDMCP... And it operates in a slightly surprising way. |
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| 20:38.22 | bbrazil | daniele83: been a while, but you have add the other host to the list of displays allowed to talk to gdm. grepping for tty7 should find the file |
| 20:38.26 | phycho | its not.. if i do one package, it works fine |
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| 20:38.47 | liran_ | oh yeah |
| 20:38.51 | liran_ | got it to work, thanks ;) |
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| 20:40.04 | embrik | thougt my usb-pen just popped up when using sarge |
| 20:40.20 | gravity | embrik: If you install gnome-volume-manager it should |
| 20:40.21 | bucky | dnc did you uncomment AddType application/x-httpd-php .php in httpd.conf ? |
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| 20:40.33 | bbrazil | daniele83: for xdm its the 'Xserver' file |
| 20:40.41 | dnc | bucky: yup |
| 20:40.45 | embrik | gravity: ok, I'll try |
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| 20:41.58 | bucky | dnc did you put file called phpinfo.php with <?php phpinfo(); ?> in it in /var/www and try to browse that? |
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| 20:42.18 | dnc | bucky: no but i'll try that now |
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| 20:42.45 | dougl | "There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes" and "tasksel: aptitude failed" were the last output from "sudo base-config" on debian sid install - can anyone point me to some insight? |
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| 20:43.35 | dnc | bucky: ok THAT worked, but when i go to a directory and the server hands me a file it tries to make me save it rather than display it |
| 20:43.47 | dnc | good to know that its installed ok though |
| 20:44.16 | bucky | dnc make sure you uncommented AddType application/x-httpd-php .php in httpd.conf and restart apache |
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| 20:44.31 | dnc | i'll double check it thanks |
| 20:44.37 | bucky | dnc, wait |
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| 20:44.48 | bucky | dnc, what do you mean that worked? |
| 20:45.06 | bucky | did it show the php properties or not? |
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| 20:45.38 | embrik | gravity: done, do I have to reboot, I can't see any pen |
| 20:45.57 | gravity | embrik: Yeah, you might if you didn't have udev installed before |
| 20:46.13 | embrik | gravity:thanks, |
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| 20:47.57 | mike_ | what permissions would i set for a file in a public_html directory to make a text file display as text when someone goes to http://www.domain.com/~account/blah.txt? |
| 20:48.10 | mike_ | like to make it appear as the text file is the web page |
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| 20:49.40 | DaBlade | Hello |
| 20:49.45 | crash3m_ | you just need read permissions on it...the permissions itself only allow/deny access to it, the web server itself combined with the browser decide how the page is displayed |
| 20:49.55 | DaBlade | I'm just wondering how long it'll take until KDE 3.5 is in the repositories |
| 20:49.56 | crash3m_ | mike_: ^^^^ look into 'mime types' |
| 20:49.58 | DaBlade | Does anyone know? |
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| 20:50.43 | jnc | mike_: permissions of the file are unrelated to how apache2 (in example) would serve the file's mimetype |
| 20:51.28 | mike_ | oh ok |
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| 20:52.03 | mike_ | if i just rename the text file to blah.html and move it in the directory it should display the way i want to methinks |
| 20:52.05 | abrotman | DaBlade: ask #debian-kde |
| 20:52.15 | DaBlade | k |
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| 20:52.20 | nuskool | anyone know where I can find a good repository of icon sets? |
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| 20:53.03 | abrotman | kde-look.org |
| 20:53.13 | odla | tarzeau: hello? |
| 20:53.13 | jnc | that one isn't too bad |
| 20:53.26 | tarzeau | odla: hello? |
| 20:53.35 | odla | tarzeau: bubbros? |
| 20:53.50 | tarzeau | odla: let me check if a server is up... |
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| 20:54.43 | embrik | gravity: I've rebooted. Where should it pop up. Can't find it. |
| 20:55.20 | gravity | embrik: Are you running gnome/kde/? |
| 20:55.39 | embrik | I'm running kde3 |
| 20:55.39 | tarzeau | odla: ok, join the lug-ag.e.c server |
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| 20:55.48 | gravity | embrik: Try /media/usb* |
| 20:55.49 | stew | gravity: is there a good reason why dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg doesn't list radeon as a possible driver? |
| 20:55.51 | tarzeau | anyone else for some funny bubbling? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 20:55.52 | gravity | embrik: It should be in one of those |
| 20:56.00 | gravity | stew: No, it should... ati will work though |
| 20:56.16 | stew | gravity: should i file a bug / work up a patch? |
| 20:56.32 | gravity | stew: Let me have a quick look first |
| 20:56.39 | gravity | I may be able to fix it really fast |
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| 20:56.52 | embrik | gravity: In /media I find only cdrom and floppy |
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| 20:56.58 | charwood | Has anyone successfully used ATI's automatic driver installer? |
| 20:57.13 | gravity | stew: Ah, I think it was on purpose to force people to use ati so it would automagically get their driver right... |
| 20:57.21 | gravity | stew: You can file a bug on it, but I may not fix it |
| 20:57.30 | charwood | I get the impressionnnn that it's rpmy. |
| 20:57.46 | abrotman | !ati drivers |
| 20:57.47 | dpkg | If you wish to use ATI's closed-source binary fglrx driver, then follow the instructions on http://stanchina.net/~flavio/debian-official/fglrx-driver.html - do NOT try to convert the drivers from ATI's website yourself with Alien. These drivers support Radeon 8500 or higher cards. |
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| 20:58.07 | stew | gravity: so is there no advantage to specifying radeon over ati in a normal situation? |
| 20:58.10 | gravity | stew: fwiw, I edited my xorg.conf to use radeon instead and got a noticeable load time improvement |
| 20:58.23 | gravity | stew: No, ati just probes the card and picks the right driver for you |
| 20:58.28 | gravity | stew: It doesn't do anything else |
| 20:58.40 | stew | ok, that's good enough for me, i'll leave well enough alone |
| 20:58.45 | rambo3 | stew its ati and nothing else |
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| 21:00.18 | Lewix | <Lewix> has someone got a toshiba M45-S169 or a graphic card ATI RADEON XPRESS 200M |
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| 21:00.51 | abrotman | <abrotman> Why? |
| 21:00.57 | tarzeau | odla: i'm in |
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| 21:01.37 | stew | Lewix: if you are having a specific problem just ask, we can probably help |
| 21:01.49 | odla | tarzeau: ok give me a 5 minutes |
| 21:02.59 | dougl | how do I config sid so "add --force-yes" for isntalling stuff? |
| 21:03.12 | nix | is there a debian channel for xorg? ive a question about a potential bug |
| 21:04.05 | gravity | nix: #debian-x |
| 21:04.31 | goron | I need to install irssi-text with special options, what's the Debian way to do this? apt-build? |
| 21:04.50 | stew | goron: /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 21:05.34 | dougl | how do I config sid so "add --force-yes" option is used system wide for isntalling stuff by default? |
| 21:05.43 | abrotman | why would you want to do that ? |
| 21:06.25 | dougl | trying to do base-config and I was suspecting/assuming all packages were gonna want it? |
| 21:06.36 | abrotman | what?> |
| 21:07.00 | Lewix | stew: there's 99% of chance that you can't help..nobody has been able to help me |
| 21:07.07 | Lewix | in forums in irc |
| 21:07.29 | abrotman | Lewix: Just ask already |
| 21:07.34 | abrotman | Lewix: it is on debian right ? |
| 21:07.38 | embrik | where do I find my usb-pen? using sarge kde3, It doesn't seem to pop up anywhere.. |
| 21:07.39 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 21:07.39 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 21:07.41 | stew | Lewix: have you looked on linux-laptop.net and tuxmobil.org? |
| 21:07.42 | rambo3 | or stop asking for that mater |
| 21:07.52 | dougl | abrotman: when I am installing packages from base-config it asks for this option - err, were you meaning me with what? |
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| 21:08.02 | Lewix | stew: yep |
| 21:08.04 | Lewix | I've downloaded the dvd iso of ubuntu,burn and check the image with md5sum, boot my laptop toshiba M45-S169 with it but when I type enter , it loads up some files and the screen goes black. I've been trying to find a solution for 4days now but nobody came with a solution,even in forums (I'm a newbie) |
| 21:08.09 | abrotman | dougl: can you paste the error somewhere ? |
| 21:08.12 | abrotman | Lewix: #ubuntu |
| 21:08.18 | Lewix | of course |
| 21:08.19 | stew | Lewix: ahh, no you are right we can't help with ubuntu here |
| 21:08.36 | goron | Wher can I find debian/rules? |
| 21:08.43 | goron | Where* |
| 21:08.44 | Lewix | I've asked in ubuntu but nobody can help |
| 21:08.50 | Lewix | they even told me to ask here |
| 21:08.51 | abrotman | !d-i Lewix |
| 21:08.51 | dpkg | Lewix, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 21:09.04 | abrotman | Lewix: tell them they should know better than to send ubuntu users here for help |
| 21:09.13 | stew | goron: apt-get source pacakgename; that will unpack source in packagename-version; debian rules will be packagename-version/debian/rules |
| 21:09.27 | goron | stew: ok, thank you |
| 21:09.29 | Lewix | well I will only if I'm sure that my laptop will work with it..I don't want to downlaod for nothing |
| 21:09.33 | Lewix | dpkg |
| 21:10.00 | sky0 | a stupid bot |
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| 21:10.22 | nostur | hi, iam down, can anyone tell me how to set up and start NTP service? |
| 21:10.45 | dougl | abrotman: http://pastebin.com/457616 is what is in my console window... but that is not all I can get more if you want. |
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| 21:10.52 | Lewix | ARF |
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| 21:11.08 | abrotman | dougl: so add the key ? |
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| 21:11.23 | abrotman | !tell dougl about apt-secure |
| 21:11.38 | dougl | abrotman: thanks... |
| 21:11.40 | abrotman | oh . wait .. tha'ts not your whole problem :) |
| 21:11.49 | abrotman | oh wait .. yes it is :) |
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| 21:12.26 | tarzeau | LOL DIAMONDS |
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| 21:12.41 | sussudio | !test |
| 21:12.41 | dpkg | Sorry, sussudio, I didn't get your test. |
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| 21:13.24 | dougl | !tell dougl about apt-key 4F368D5D |
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| 21:13.30 | bizkit | are there any ready-to-run hardware routers/gateways out there for a personal net with which i could connect this net to the internet via dsl? now don't laugh, the point is i need any kind of quality of service (QoS) on this one |
| 21:13.30 | odla | tarzeau: i'm coming now |
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| 21:13.46 | tarzeau | odla: great. i've kicked desowin's ass already ;) |
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| 21:14.20 | dougl | abrotman: that is cool... thanks |
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| 21:14.30 | abrotman | have a nice day! |
| 21:14.32 | dougl | so that is what the internet is. |
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| 21:14.35 | dougl | u2 |
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| 21:14.57 | npx | bizkit, QoS is usually only on more expensive routers |
| 21:15.08 | npx | personally, I just use a debian box as my router |
| 21:15.17 | dougl | nice to meet you, I hope I can do the same some day :) |
| 21:16.02 | bizkit | npx: i'm using a debian box, too. but it would be interesting for some friends of me, so perhaps.. 3com? |
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| 21:16.21 | npx | bizkit, 3com makes good products in my experience |
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| 21:16.50 | npx | Pretty affordable stuff, too, the cheapest router offering QoS in their lineup probably won't disappoint you |
| 21:17.18 | npx | One of those dlink routers that can run Linux might be a neat option |
| 21:17.22 | bizkit | yeah, thanks i'll have a look |
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| 21:17.36 | Cran1988 | http://www.bioware.com vote linux plz |
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| 21:17.51 | nazgul | odd. is k3b gone from Debian testing? |
| 21:18.01 | cheal | nazgul: yes |
| 21:18.25 | Cran1988 | thnx |
| 21:18.28 | tarzeau | Cran1988: don't spam please |
| 21:18.39 | nazgul | cheal, URL where I can read up the reason for this? |
| 21:18.42 | goron | How can I get tor + irssi + privoxy to work in Debian? I already compiled it from source with socks support. I am getting "Connection refused" in irssi. |
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| 21:19.13 | Cran1988 | i m not spam i help the linux revolution believe me |
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| 21:19.47 | npx | Wow, linux has 6% more votes than the nearest gaming console |
| 21:19.49 | npx | that's pretty cool |
| 21:20.03 | charlotte | hi whats up? |
| 21:20.20 | goron | It doesn't even list *BSD :-( |
| 21:20.21 | cheal | nazgul: none answers that directly. k3b was removed because it was uninstallable |
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| 21:21.04 | tarzeau | odla: we're level 27 already, and i almost got 1000000 points |
| 21:21.14 | tarzeau | odla: you're playing http://bub-n-bros.sf.net the first time? |
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| 21:22.06 | nazgul | cheal, thanks |
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| 21:23.00 | cwarner | i'm trying to take a regular debian cd and stuff it with my own packages.. i've read a couple of different things.. what is it that I need to do specifically? |
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| 21:23.41 | cwarner | the packages that I have conflict with somethings like libc6 etc etc.. we've made our own packages for those |
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| 21:37.13 | embrik | what's happening? |
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| 21:37.14 | thingfish | net split |
| 21:37.14 | Moeen | nothing important :P |
| 21:37.14 | nostur | !tell Nostur NTP |
| 21:37.14 | nostur | !tell nstur NTP |
| 21:37.14 | nostur | !tell nostur NTP |
| 21:37.14 | cheal | !tell nostur about selftell |
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| 21:37.15 | embrik | anybody who can help me getting in reach with my usb pen, kde3, sarge |
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| 21:37.17 | nostur | ehe |
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| 21:37.19 | Seb | embrik: how is it not working ? |
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| 21:37.21 | abrotman | embrik: do you see it in dmesg ? |
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| 21:37.24 | embrik | seb: I just can't find it. It's my first time using usb-pen on debian. I thought it should pop up in conqueror |
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| 21:37.26 | embrik | abrotman: yes, I think so. It's connected to sda |
| 21:37.26 | Seb | i don't think anything will automount in debian if you don't ask for it |
| 21:37.27 | Moeen | Where is the main asoundrc file ? |
| 21:37.27 | gravity | Seb: gnome-volume-manager should |
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| 21:37.27 | gravity | I'm not sure why it doesn't work for him though |
| 21:37.27 | [1]g3brown | I'm getting ready to setup a file/samba/web/ftp server and I was going to use Debian 3.1 and wondered what the mass was using for kernel. I have saw complaints of Samba not getting along with the 2.6 kernel and corrupting large files (1GB+). Anyone have suggestion or experience they would care to share? (sorry for repeat but I get disconnected) |
| 21:37.27 | Seb | gravity: but he's using kde |
| 21:37.27 | gravity | Seb: So? |
| 21:37.28 | Seb | Moeen: /etc/asoundrc |
| 21:37.28 | abrotman | embrik: did you try asking #debian-kde ? |
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| 21:37.28 | gravity | he's got it installed, it should still mount via udev |
| 21:37.28 | odla | tarzeau: sad |
| 21:37.28 | Seb | gravity: well I doubt he has gnome-volume-manager running in kde ? |
| 21:37.28 | embrik | abrotman: No should I? |
| 21:37.28 | bizkit | [1]g3brown: don't have that problem, i use 2.6 and samba. |
| 21:37.28 | gravity | Seb: I told him to install it. g-v-m runs at boot whether you use gnome or not |
| 21:37.28 | [1]g3brown | bizkit: you ever copy large files? |
| 21:37.29 | gravity | But he can check I suppose |
| 21:37.29 | abrotman | embrik: either that or ask #i-love-hot-girls ? |
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| 21:37.29 | Seb | gravity: oh, that was a while back, right ? |
| 21:37.29 | embrik | gavity: I anstalled gnome-volume-manager |
| 21:37.29 | Seb | gravity: i took on this discussion at 13:27:05 embrik | anybody who can help me getting in reach with my usb pen, kde3, sarge |
| 21:37.30 | Seb | gravity: sorry for the noise :) |
| 21:37.30 | loxley_ | !nickometer [1]g3brown |
| 21:37.30 | dpkg | '[1]g3brown' is 39.000% lame, loxley_ |
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| 21:37.30 | gravity | Seb: No, if you want to help please! I'm kinda stumped |
| 21:37.30 | Toastie_ | Since kernel 2.6.11, netfilter no longer does implicit SNAT. What does it offer instead? |
| 21:37.30 | Seb | [1]g3brown: nevertheless, for production systems, I'd still go with 2.4 |
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| 21:37.31 | gravity | embrik: What does ps -A | grep volume say? |
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| 21:37.31 | tarzeau_ | odla: you have to make more bubbles when someone gets the chest |
| 21:37.32 | Seb | gravity: well I don't use udev nor gnome-volume-manager so... :) |
| 21:37.32 | tarzeau_ | odla: for polymorph the bubbles into DIAMOND |
| 21:37.32 | embrik | gravity: nothing?? |
| 21:37.32 | gravity | hrm... |
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| 21:37.33 | gravity | embrik: Try running gnome-volume-manager |
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| 21:37.34 | gravity | Maybe it doesn't start from init any more... |
| 21:37.34 | [1]g3brown | Anyone use a dual core chip? Like the pentium d. Is that supported with 2.4 or 2.6 kernels? |
| 21:37.34 | Moeen | Seb, it's not there :( |
| 21:37.35 | Seb | Moeen: no it's not, you need to create it |
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| 21:37.35 | embrik | gravity: (gnome-volume-manager:2223): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 21:37.35 | Seb | embrik: hrm, you're in kde or not ? |
| 21:37.36 | Moeen | Seb, I read in a manual that there is one in ~/.asoundrc, but it's not there too |
| 21:37.36 | tarzeau_ | [1]g3brown: i got an amd dual core at werk, works fine |
| 21:37.36 | embrik | I'm in konsoll |
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| 21:37.36 | Seb | Moeen: as I said, if those files ain't there and you need them, create them |
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| 21:37.36 | gravity | konsoll being... the terminal or KDE with a terminal running? |
| 21:37.37 | Seb | embrik: konsole in kde, or console as in no X ? |
| 21:37.37 | Seb | heheh |
| 21:37.37 | Seb | gravity: ;) |
| 21:37.37 | gravity | heh |
| 21:37.37 | [1]g3brown | tarzeau: are you using 3.1 and which kernel? |
| 21:37.37 | tarzeau_ | !dphys |
| 21:37.39 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, dphys is http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/, or http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys-kernel-packages/ we build kernels with patched in supermount,sk98lin v2,nvnet for p1-1gb p1-smp-1gb p3-1gb p3-smp-1gb p3-smp-4gb p4-1gb p4-4gb p4-smp-4gb p4-smp-64gb k7-1gb k7-4gb k7-64gb k7-smp-4gb k7-smp-64gb and modules for 3w-9xxx, NVIDIA_kernel-1.0-7174, alsa-driver-1.0.10, openafs-1.4.0, ... |
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| 21:37.39 | tarzeau_ | [1]g3brown: that stuff |
| 21:37.40 | tarzeau_ | MY BANANA |
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| 21:37.42 | Moeen | Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate loadable module in module_path: "libindustrial.so" ! is it important ? how can I solve it ? |
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| 21:37.46 | embrik | seb konsole in kde |
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| 21:37.48 | ramy | anybody knows a debian software that can merge two mpeg videos ? |
| 21:37.49 | Seb | Moeen: you might wanna tell us in what context you got this error, that could help. |
| 21:37.49 | tarzeau_ | ramy: cat |
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| 21:37.50 | tarzeau_ | ramy: kino, cinderella |
| 21:37.50 | Seb | ramy: define merge |
| 21:37.50 | Seb | tarzeau_: cat'ing 2 mpegs wouldn't produce a valid mpeg |
| 21:37.50 | tarzeau_ | Seb: it works anyways |
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| 21:37.54 | Seb | tarzeau_: that won't be the exact total sum of the 2 though |
| 21:37.55 | tarzeau_ | Seb: true |
| 21:37.55 | Moeen | Seb, I got it when run alsaplayer under console |
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| 21:38.05 | ramy | I would like to make one big mpeg video from several small clips, it would be nice if I can cut some pieces too ! |
| 21:38.06 | Seb | Moeen: so, do you get sound ? |
| 21:38.14 | [1]g3brown | tarzeau: do know if 2.4 or 2.6 supports smp out of the box? |
| 21:38.25 | tarzeau_ | [1]g3brown: yes if configured right |
| 21:38.25 | Seb | ramy: then kino or cinderella, as tarzeau said ? |
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| 21:38.26 | anarcat | aah... at last |
| 21:38.31 | Moeen | Seb, yes |
| 21:38.32 | tarzeau_ | [1]g3brown: even 5.4 supports smp |
| 21:38.33 | Seb | [1]g3brown: they both do. Now go try it. |
| 21:38.34 | [1]g3brown | tarzeau: both? |
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| 21:38.37 | Seb | Moeen: then you're fine. |
| 21:38.40 | tarzeau_ | [1]g3brown: yes |
| 21:38.45 | anarcat | what's the easiest way to copy a partition table from a drive to another? |
| 21:38.53 | Seb | anarcat: dd |
| 21:38.56 | anarcat | i'm struggling with sfdisk now, can't quite figure it out |
| 21:39.04 | xorphus | tarzeau_: heh, 5.4?? |
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| 21:39.06 | embrik | this is a cut from dmesg: SCSI device sda: 2039296 512-byte hdwr sectors (1044 MB) |
| 21:39.08 | ramy | thanks |
| 21:39.09 | tarzeau_ | anarcat: dd |
| 21:39.15 | anarcat | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 ? |
| 21:39.15 | tarzeau_ | xorphus: gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 21:39.31 | Seb | anarcat: not sure of the number of blocks from the top of my head but yeah |
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| 21:39.46 | [1]g3brown | tarzeau: thanks. I haven't purchased the hardware yet. I've only setup test servers on vmware so far. |
| 21:39.55 | xorphus | tarzeau_: I figured it was freebsd by the numbers, but eh. oh well |
| 21:39.58 | Seb | embrik: first find out why you can't pop up X programs while you're in X. This is disturbing. |
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| 21:40.24 | Kerr | if i connect to the net via eth0, and to my laptop on eth1, and the laptop can ssh to my box (i'm using it now)how can i give it access to the net? I've tried everything google has to offer, and a lot mentioned here too, but no luck. |
| 21:40.42 | Seb | Kerr: setup a NAT gateway |
| 21:40.54 | poop | damn |
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| 21:40.56 | Kerr | Seb: tried and tried and tried. |
| 21:41.01 | Seb | Kerr: plenty of Debian packages can do that sorta automatically for ya |
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| 21:41.22 | Seb | Kerr: then why don't you state the problems you got instead of asking something that generic ? |
| 21:41.28 | Seb | wow |
| 21:41.28 | Kerr | /ignore #debian joins parts quits |
| 21:41.35 | acilio | Hello. Can anyone help with a problem I found with libboost and etch distribution? It seems currently boost does not work with testing distro. If someone is willing to listen, I'll dump all the info I've found out about dependencies. |
| 21:41.38 | Kerr | hehe |
| 21:41.42 | Kerr | i heart irssi |
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| 21:41.50 | Seb | apparently that freenode firewall upgrade went sorta wrong |
| 21:41.58 | Seb | acilio: file a bug |
| 21:42.00 | Kerr | /ignore #debian joins parts quits |
| 21:42.11 | Kerr | Seb: know any packages offhand? |
| 21:42.11 | cheal | wondering when my turn comes |
| 21:42.20 | Seb | cheal: heh |
| 21:42.39 | acilio | ok, i'll file a bug.. was just hoping someone already knows a workaround... |
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| 21:42.44 | Daveman | gg freenode |
| 21:42.46 | Seb | Kerr: bastille |
| 21:42.50 | anarcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:43.00 | anarcat | doh, sorry |
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| 21:43.07 | Kerr | anarcat: :-P |
| 21:43.11 | Daveman | heh |
| 21:43.14 | cheal | acilio: you could explain the problem before you file a bug |
| 21:43.26 | acilio | can I IM you? |
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| 21:43.31 | Daveman | heh |
| 21:43.34 | acilio | cheal: can I IM you? |
| 21:43.37 | Seb | why do people insist on private messenging ? |
| 21:43.41 | abrotman | acilio: did you check the BTS ? |
| 21:43.44 | cheal | acilio: you can talk on the channel |
| 21:43.51 | acilio | ok, I'll try to explain |
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| 21:43.54 | Seb | acilio: talk, not paste |
| 21:44.11 | acilio | problem is that standard g++ on testing is 4.0, right? |
| 21:44.27 | acilio | gcc 4.0 wants stdc++6 |
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| 21:44.42 | acilio | but, boost packages on testing want stdc++5 |
| 21:44.51 | acilio | which is compiled with gcc 3.3 |
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| 21:45.06 | anarcat | oookay |
| 21:45.10 | anarcat | thanks people, very helpful |
| 21:45.13 | cheal | acilio: yes, g++4 is standard in etch. |
| 21:45.15 | anarcat | dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1 |
| 21:45.16 | Kerr | Seb: i'm behind a horribly uni router already :-/ bastille looks a bit ott, since it's a hardening deb.. know of anything a little more suited? |
| 21:45.17 | anarcat | works very well |
| 21:45.19 | cheal | !tell acilio about enter |
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| 21:45.30 | Seb | Kerr: apt-cache search |
| 21:45.39 | acilio | cheal: tell what? |
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| 21:45.58 | cheal | acilio: the dpkg bot should have sent you a factoid |
| 21:46.08 | acilio | yes, i have it. sorry and thanks. |
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| 21:46.32 | cheal | acilio: if you didn't get it, it should tell you to minimize the number of messages you use to say one thing |
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| 21:47.28 | acilio | yes, i've read it and I'm going to follow that guideline. But basically I've said all I had to say about the problem. I can add the single version numbers of the packages involved in this dependency problem, not much more. |
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| 21:48.28 | valdyn | acilio: this 'bug' sounds more like the transition to the new c compilers being delayed for certain reasons than like a bug worth reporting |
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| 21:48.41 | odla | tarzeau_: i suck :( |
| 21:48.55 | mcm | does anyone an idea why 'su' takes all my cpu for about 10 secs and fails? |
| 21:49.20 | tarzeau_ | odla: don't kill monster |
| 21:49.24 | acilio | valdyn: OK, but it is pretty bad, given how useful and widespread boost libraries are, AFAIK. maybe soemone who knows the dev team should report this? or should I? |
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| 21:49.25 | mcm | the stranges thing is that sometimes it works and sometimes not... |
| 21:49.33 | tarzeau_ | odla: gives no points. get chest and pick bonus items like melonds, diamonds, bananas |
| 21:49.41 | tarzeau_ | odla: you'll be a hero like us one day |
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| 21:50.17 | Seb | mcm: strace it. And also, define "fails". |
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| 21:50.31 | valdyn | acilio: try '/msg dpkg why is <packagename> not in testing' |
| 21:50.54 | mcm | Seb: good idea. |
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| 21:51.48 | mcm | Seb: what do you mean with "define 'fails'" ? |
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| 21:51.56 | Seb | mcm: how does su fail ? |
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| 21:52.20 | mcm | Seb: it doesn't change to root. |
| 21:52.21 | telonir | i am trying to upgrade kernel 2.4 to 2.6 and apt-get complains "failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool". why? |
| 21:52.28 | valdyn | acilio: then you can try '/msg dpkg simple sid backport' to fix it |
| 21:52.45 | Seb | mcm: does it give an error msg ? What return code does it exit with ? |
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| 21:52.52 | valdyn | telonir: install one |
| 21:52.57 | Seb | telonir: how are you trying to upgrade kernels ? |
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| 21:53.04 | cheal | acilio: nobody knows the dev team. the problem is fixed in unstable but the new package can't transition to testing yet |
| 21:53.04 | telonir | give a package name |
| 21:53.37 | danathan | how do i tell my box that i want it to use eth1 rather than eth0 for initializing outgoing connections? |
| 21:53.38 | valdyn | acilio: there is no 'dev team' |
| 21:53.38 | telonir | Seb: tried with aptitude then apt-get install linux-image-2.6-686 |
| 21:53.38 | mcm | Seb: like i told the strange thing is that it works now... |
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| 21:53.50 | stew | telonir: what version of debian? |
| 21:53.58 | telonir | valdyn give me a package name |
| 21:53.59 | mcm | Seb: i haven't changed anything... |
| 21:54.02 | telonir | stew 3 |
| 21:54.07 | Seb | danathan: set a default rouet |
| 21:54.12 | Seb | route |
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| 21:54.29 | stew | telonir: 3.0? |
| 21:54.29 | Seb | mcm: how about answering my question ? When it failed, did it give an error msg ? |
| 21:54.52 | Seb | telonir: introducing to you, apt-cache search. Marvelous tool, really. Use it. |
| 21:54.52 | valdyn | telonir: initramfs-tools |
| 21:55.17 | mcm | Seb: i'm sorry. no it did not. |
| 21:55.31 | danathan | seb: it seems to add both gateways as default routes |
| 21:55.32 | Seb | mcm: ok, so it just silently fails to su you to root |
| 21:55.43 | mcm | Seb: yes. |
| 21:55.54 | Seb | danathan: which is why *you* want to add one. Think metric. |
| 21:56.02 | Seb | mcm: that's bad. I'd check for a rootkit. |
| 21:56.09 | valdyn | telonir: your kernel image depends on such a tool, if its not installed you have a broken deb or unresolved dependencies on your system |
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| 21:56.31 | acilio | telonir: the package name is libboost-filesystem1.32.0, or just any other boost lib package; valdyn: thanks, i tried the msg command with the 1.33.0 version, but didn't get any clear answer |
| 21:56.36 | Seb | mcm: plainly put, things should always fail or always succeed. Not a mix of the 2. Maybe look in /var/log/syslog to see if anything weird was going on around the time it failed ? |
| 21:56.56 | valdyn | !why is libboost-filesystem1.32.0 not in testing |
| 21:56.56 | dpkg | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:57.04 | stew | telonir: paste your sources.list to #flood or to a pastebin (don't paste here) |
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| 21:57.24 | telonir | paste..? in console |
| 21:57.29 | acilio | valdyn: but it *is* in testing according to the debian.org list of packages! |
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| 21:57.52 | Seb | telonir: apt-get install gpm |
| 21:57.55 | Seb | telonir: or use screen |
| 21:57.57 | valdyn | acilio: so it is indeed, why'd you doubt that? |
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| 21:57.59 | stew | telonir: you could copy and paste using either gpm or screen, or else /join #flood and /exec -o grep -v ^# /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:58.16 | valdyn | !info libboost-filesystem1.32.0 testing |
| 21:58.20 | acilio | valdyn: because the debian.org listings show all boost libs at 1.32.0 in testing |
| 21:58.51 | valdyn | acilio: those packages are obviously being replace with something else |
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| 21:59.00 | degoba | can someone help me out |
| 21:59.05 | degoba | uber noob here |
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| 21:59.29 | degoba | ?? |
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| 21:59.31 | valdyn | acilio: namely libboost-python1.33.0 |
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| 21:59.47 | philips | degoba: just ask the questions |
| 21:59.55 | degoba | i installed debian without a gui |
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| 22:00.08 | degoba | i then ran apt-get install fluxbox |
| 22:00.11 | dpkg | libboost-filesystem1.32.0: (filesystem operations (portable paths, iteration over directories, etc) in C++), section libs, is optional. Version: 1.32.0-6 (etch), Packaged size: 39 kB, Installed size: 124 kB |
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| 22:00.14 | odla | tarzeau_: bonus rounds? |
| 22:00.17 | tarzeau_ | odla: ok that wasfun. i've only slept 2 hours yesterday/today due to a concert and some other stuff |
| 22:00.19 | degoba | well it got it and now i cant figure out how to runit |
| 22:00.28 | Shadda | lol you need X |
| 22:00.30 | odla | tarzeau_: ok |
| 22:00.33 | tarzeau_ | odla: bonus rounds are crazilzy fun. but i've got a bad tiresome headache |
| 22:00.34 | degoba | how do i get x |
| 22:00.35 | Shadda | either Xorg or X11 |
| 22:00.40 | Shadda | apt-get |
| 22:00.41 | tarzeau_ | you guys can keep bubbling, i go dreamin' |
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| 22:00.49 | Shadda | though it may have installed as a dependency |
| 22:00.51 | stew | degoba: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 22:00.54 | acilio | valdyn: hmm, i thouhgt libboost-filesystem had nothing to do with libboost-python |
| 22:00.58 | degoba | k |
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| 22:01.28 | valdyn | acilio: uh, that one is being replaced too |
| 22:01.33 | tarzeau_ | odla: you playin' with original music or your own? |
| 22:01.36 | odla | tarzeau_: ok |
| 22:01.40 | odla | tarzeau_: orginal |
| 22:01.56 | valdyn | acilio: its not a good idea to be running testing atm in general |
| 22:02.01 | acilio | valdyn: I cannot find libboost-python in "unstable" list of libraries. on the other hand, I still find libboost-filesystem (at 1.33.0) |
| 22:02.13 | tarzeau_ | odla: can you do me a favour? |
| 22:02.22 | odla | tarzeau_: sure |
| 22:02.28 | tarzeau_ | odla: bug pant hera (one word) to finish packaging bubnbros |
| 22:02.29 | acilio | valdyn: OK, but can you tell me how is one supposed to know that (no polemic intended, really) |
| 22:02.45 | odla | tarzeau_: ok |
| 22:02.48 | odla | pathera? |
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| 22:03.14 | valdyn | acilio: testing is only ever decent when its being prepared for release, outside of that limit timeframe its always suffering from transitions. its like that as long as it exists |
| 22:03.21 | tarzeau | odla: yes, but with n |
| 22:03.30 | acilio | valdyn: so you suggest unstable instead? |
| 22:03.39 | odla | ok |
| 22:03.46 | odla | will do |
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| 22:04.20 | valdyn | acilio: unstable isn't for general use either, hence its 'unstable', only thing i recomend is stable ) |
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| 22:04.29 | telonir | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:04.31 | valdyn | acilio: you can easily backport unstable packages to testing however |
| 22:04.33 | danathan | seb: i added static routes to my dns servers, which is what i really wanted to do. thanks for the help. |
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| 22:04.42 | odla | anyone familiar with how to use xmame? i have tried to find some info on the web but no to no avail. i know you need ROM files...but is rom an actual type of file and where am i suppose to store it on my computer? |
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| 22:04.52 | cheal | acilio: if you have to choose between testing and unstable, using testing |
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| 22:04.58 | stew | telonir: what does apt-cache policy yaird say for candidate? |
| 22:04.58 | Seb | danathan: no problem |
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| 22:05.18 | telonir | stew? |
| 22:05.21 | Seb | odla: you download those ROM files, and run xmame on them |
| 22:05.30 | valdyn | acilio: testing is probably free of the most serious bugs, but its never 'complete' |
| 22:05.32 | npx | xmen vs. street fighter OWNS |
| 22:05.36 | odla | Seb: where? so ROM is a type of file? |
| 22:05.37 | cheal | acilio: s/using/use |
| 22:05.41 | stew | telonir: did you not understand my question? can you not show us your sources.list somehow? |
| 22:05.46 | odla | Seb: i want to play donkey kong |
| 22:05.49 | valdyn | acilio: ( outside the limited timeframe i mentioned above ) |
| 22:05.59 | acilio | valdyn: I know, but in the past i had horrible problems with backports, once burned... :) -- cheal: thanks for the advice, I'll try to stick to testing then. the problem is that we're developing a big software and have a testing comp farm with several other linux distros that are more up to date |
| 22:05.59 | Seb | odla: ROMs are not free |
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| 22:06.15 | telonir | Candidate: 0.0.11-12 |
| 22:06.16 | odla | Seb: i know..can i buy them off the ent? |
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| 22:06.27 | Seb | odla: www.google.com |
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| 22:06.38 | Reilithion | Hey, I'm trying to find a forum, message board, chat room, or mailing list for novice programmers (bonus if it's Debian- or GNU/Linux-specific). Anyone have any leads I can follow? |
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| 22:06.52 | Seb | Reilithion: what language ? |
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| 22:07.13 | Reilithion | python, ocaml, objective C, or C |
| 22:07.21 | Reilithion | in roughly that order |
| 22:07.24 | odla | Seb: i see a lot of zip files out there but i can't find ROM files |
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| 22:07.28 | embrik | Hi, I still can't mount my usb-pen, kde3 sarge |
| 22:07.34 | grendal_prime | hey i got an app that needs to use /dev/dsp0 or 1 or whatever basically needs oss...thing is it im running alsa and i have alsa-oss installed but the machine hangs when i try and run it with the sound wrapper aoss deal |
| 22:07.43 | telonir | stew - in flood |
| 22:07.45 | stew | telonir: try installing yaird, then try installing your kernel again |
| 22:07.50 | telonir | k |
| 22:07.56 | cheal | acilio: testing is currently squeezed between two C++ ABI transitions. that hurts particularly in boost's case. until the c2->c2a transition goes to testing, testing will stay unusually problematic |
| 22:07.57 | grendal_prime | i guess i need to configre the kernel level alsa-oss modules? |
| 22:08.16 | b14ck | I'm planning on installing debian (x86). I'm just wondering if the install process is easy. And after the install, are there any things I need to do before I can begin updating the system and installing programs? |
| 22:08.16 | Seb | Reilithion: try gmane.org |
| 22:08.23 | jimbo | which is correct to use when you need superuser priviliges? just plain "su" or "su -"? what is the difference? |
| 22:08.26 | Seb | odla: that sucks. I guess. |
| 22:08.30 | grendal_prime | im just a little green when it comes to things like this and i like to hear input from anyone else that has to do ths? |
| 22:08.42 | Reilithion | thanks, Seb |
| 22:08.42 | Seb | b14ck: it's easy. And no, once installed, you're set. |
| 22:08.45 | Seb | Reilithion: sure |
| 22:08.53 | Seb | jimbo: use sudo |
| 22:08.56 | Seb | jimbo: not su |
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| 22:08.59 | embrik | jimbo: su works for me |
| 22:08.59 | Blissex | grendal_prime: check out... |
| 22:09.00 | telonir | how does the scroll lock works in debian? |
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| 22:09.06 | b14ck | Seb, I need to set up a basic workstation. Web browser, x11, etc. |
| 22:09.08 | Seb | jimbo: the difference is explained in the man page, if you really wanna know |
| 22:09.09 | valdyn | acilio: i dont know your complete situation.. but why dont you use stable and backport whatever has to be 'more recent' ? |
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| 22:09.15 | Seb | b14ck: my answer still stands. |
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| 22:09.20 | telonir | stew - samew error |
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| 22:09.25 | b14ck | Is there any configuration required before using 'apt-get' which I assume is the package manager. |
| 22:09.34 | stew | telonir: have you checked the bts? |
| 22:09.43 | jimbo | Seb, yes i have set my username up to use sudo, but i needed to access visudo in order to do that. i used the "su" command. |
| 22:09.45 | Seb | b14ck: again, no. The install process will take care of that. BUt I feel like I'm repeating myself here. |
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| 22:09.55 | Seb | jimbo: gotcha |
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| 22:09.57 | b14ck | Does debian have a ports system? |
| 22:09.59 | telonir | bts? |
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| 22:10.01 | grendal_prime | Blissex, ?? |
| 22:10.02 | acilio | valdyn: cheal: because the system must compile and run with many other linux distros which in general have more recent versions of pretty much any packaged we'd like to use :) |
| 22:10.11 | stew | telonir: /msg dpkg bts |
| 22:10.12 | degoba | how do i get the x window up and running? |
| 22:10.12 | Seb | jimbo: so then it doesn't quite matter, us su or su -, one is a login shelll, the other is not |
| 22:10.14 | Blissex | grendal_prime: ooops |
| 22:10.24 | Seb | b14ck: it has packages. www.debian.org |
| 22:10.25 | odla | Seb: do my ROM files need to be placed somewhere...in a specific folder for xmame to locate them? i've read man xmame but it doesn't mention one. or can i use xmame <name>.ROM in the directory housing a .ROM file |
| 22:10.26 | Blissex | grendal_prime: check out... http://tinyurl.com/4ogk2 the OSS and sharing sections... |
| 22:10.48 | b14ck | Seb, I know it has packages. So does OpenBSD. I just wanted to know if it had a ports system as well. |
| 22:10.54 | Seb | odla: look, how is this non-free, gaming thing even remotely related to Debian ? |
| 22:10.57 | telonir | stew : "/msg " ? |
| 22:10.59 | Seb | b14ck: no |
| 22:11.04 | degoba | i got x window installed can someone tell me where i go from there? |
| 22:11.07 | b14ck | Thanks. |
| 22:11.13 | Seb | b14ck: although you can get the source for every package in one command should you want to |
| 22:11.17 | stew | !tell telonir about bts |
| 22:11.24 | jimbo | Seb, thanks |
| 22:11.52 | Seb | odla: more generally, arguments to *NIX programs don't have to be somewhere. You pass the full pathname as an argument, so it doesn't matter. |
| 22:11.56 | b14ck | Seb, one more question. During the install is it possible to install the os over multiple harddrives? |
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| 22:12.02 | Seb | s/somewhere/somewhere special/ |
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| 22:12.13 | Seb | b14ck: you mean different partitions on different drives ? |
| 22:12.18 | Seb | b14ck: or things like RAID ? |
| 22:12.19 | b14ck | Or should I just install it on one drive and then mount another drive. |
| 22:12.21 | valdyn | acilio: you can probably just use sid |
| 22:12.21 | degoba | can someone help me out with what to do after i get x window installed |
| 22:12.22 | cheal | acilio: sorry, I think I lost you. did you still want advice on something? |
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| 22:12.22 | b14ck | RAID. |
| 22:12.24 | degoba | ? |
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| 22:12.35 | Seb | i don't know if 3.1's installer does RAID |
| 22:12.40 | valdyn | acilio: its usually fine, and you dont seem to be forced to work on it, but only try compiling stuff as i understand |
| 22:12.42 | b14ck | Alright, that's fine. |
| 22:12.43 | Seb | b14ck: in any case, I'd stay away from a RAID / |
| 22:12.44 | b14ck | Thanks again. |
| 22:12.47 | Seb | b14ck: anything else is fine |
| 22:13.06 | stew | Seb: it will do RAID |
| 22:13.11 | Seb | stew: k |
| 22:13.15 | Seb | b14ck: there you go |
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| 22:13.25 | acilio | cheal: no, basically you and valdyn gave me all possible info i needed... not good news unfortunately for me, but thanks a lot and see you - well i need to use the system, compile on it and run the apps i compile |
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| 22:14.09 | degoba | can someone please tell me how to get the gui up after ive installed x window and fluxbox |
| 22:14.10 | degoba | ? |
| 22:14.23 | Seb | degoba: have you configured X ? |
| 22:14.52 | acilio | cheal: it is a 200K - 300K line C++ software, it uses many other standard GPL libraries, and boost are some of them. it is meant to be portable, so much that parts of it are even compiling and running on windows (at least till some time ago), so it' s a bit disappointing to see it run on Mandriva, Gentoo, Ubuntu, etc.etc., but not Debian testing :-/ |
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| 22:15.24 | drp | what config file specifies which wm or desktop environment is to be run at startup |
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| 22:15.50 | valdyn | acilio: you're not respecting the purpose of testing.. you can just use sid if you want 'gentoo' or 'fedora' like stability ;) |
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| 22:16.37 | acilio | valdyn: I guess you're right :) - other people in the devel team wonder why I use Debian at all --i just like it --- |
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| 22:16.49 | Seb | drp: .xinitrc typically, or .xsession |
| 22:16.57 | Seb | drp: the debian way is ~/.xsession iirc |
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| 22:17.34 | drp | Seb: ok .. I guess I just need to create one in my account, I'm guessing debian doesn't create one by default in that specific user's account |
| 22:17.49 | Seb | drp: debian doesn't do anything behind your back |
| 22:17.56 | drp | hehe |
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| 22:17.57 | Kerr | Seb: i just tried guidedog, for trying to give my lappy the net, but couldn't figure it out.. i really have no networking knowledge :-/ are there any other packages you can think of? |
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| 22:18.09 | valdyn | acilio: btw, rhel is as 'aged' as sarge, isnt it? |
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| 22:18.15 | Seb | drp: if this file is not there, then /etc/X11/.../Xsession will be used. This one will be installed by default. BUt definitely nothing in your homedir would. |
| 22:18.26 | acilio | valdyn: what is "rhel" ? |
| 22:18.30 | grendal_prime | Blissex, that is alot of info that really makes little to no sense to me |
| 22:18.41 | valdyn | !rhel |
| 22:18.42 | Seb | someone tells Kerr the name of a package that'll set up NAT/gateway please |
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| 22:18.44 | cyc | re |
| 22:18.45 | odla | panthera: could please package bubbros! |
| 22:18.46 | grendal_prime | is there a kernel module i can instlal with the module-assistant |
| 22:18.48 | grendal_prime | ? |
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| 22:18.55 | Seb | RedHat Enterprise Linux |
| 22:18.56 | grendal_prime | im dealing with a new-sarge install |
| 22:19.02 | Blissex | grendal_prime: thats unfortunate because thats the simplest description more or less... |
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| 22:19.12 | grendal_prime | ? |
| 22:19.13 | grendal_prime | really |
| 22:19.20 | drp | Seb: thanks |
| 22:19.23 | Blissex | grendal_prime: have you got a file called '/dev/dsp'? |
| 22:19.24 | peritus | i have been using linux 2.6.11, i upgraded to 2.6.14.3 recently, but my pcmcia 3com 574 card stopped working, it is not recognized anymore. it is basicly the same config. CONFIG_PCMCIA_3C574=y in .config. im running debian sarge. what might be wrong? |
| 22:19.24 | grendal_prime | well it basically says..."use jacktooss |
| 22:19.28 | Seb | drp: np |
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| 22:19.40 | Seb | peritus: is the module loaded ? |
| 22:19.47 | Blissex | grendal_prime: well, not quite just 'jack2oss'. |
| 22:19.54 | peritus | Seb: im not using modules |
| 22:20.04 | peritus | Seb: everything is staticlly compiled |
| 22:20.11 | Seb | peritus: i guess you should, easier to troubleshoot. Look in dmesg then. |
| 22:20.16 | Blissex | grendal_prime: the idea is: if you want to use OSS compat, the easiest is just use one prog at a time, or disable exclusive iopens. |
| 22:20.21 | cyc | I've got a problem - I would like to install sarge on a proliant with ICH7R SATA ... well ... kernel is to old, what to do? debian unstable minimum install and downgrade? |
| 22:20.32 | peritus | Seb: it works excellent in 2.6.11 |
| 22:20.33 | Blissex | grendal_prime: using 'jack2oss' is not the simplest, is the most general solution. |
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| 22:20.43 | Seb | peritus: also, you should be using a Debian kernel. If you don't, you don't stand much of a chance of being helped with a kernel pb in here. |
| 22:20.55 | Blissex | cyc: usually you can use a BIOS option to disable AHCI mode. |
| 22:21.00 | Seb | peritus: basically, isntall the Debian 2.6.14 precompiled image, and see if it works. If it doesn't, then we'll help ya |
| 22:21.17 | peritus | Seb: i want grsecurity too |
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| 22:21.21 | dougl | abrotman: "We'll assume that you're using Debian's official packages" how can I verify - let me know if I am buggin you. |
| 22:21.50 | peritus | well, i guess it is impossible for you to tell me whats wrong. very strange that it works in 2.6.11 and not .14 |
| 22:21.51 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 22:21.51 | dpkg | it has been said that sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
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| 22:21.58 | grendal_prime | this program needs sound out and sound i |
| 22:22.00 | Seb | dougl: this means you only have *debian.org lines in /etc/apt/sources.list, and you don't use any other debs |
| 22:22.07 | acilio | !rhel |
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| 22:22.12 | abrotman | dougl: for what ? |
| 22:22.15 | Seb | peritus: well, did you read the changelog ? |
| 22:22.15 | grendal_prime | sound in that is |
| 22:22.16 | grendal_prime | hmm |
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| 22:22.27 | valdyn | peritus: not that strange, do you have to switch to 2.6.14? |
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| 22:22.41 | cyc | Blissex I'm not sure I get it - isn't a problem missing driver? :| |
| 22:22.53 | grendal_prime | i started thinking maybe i would just use oss on this machine...but i cant even find the oss packages...what the hell are they called? |
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| 22:23.00 | acilio | valdyn: cheal: thanks for the time and patience. bye! |
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| 22:23.05 | valdyn | dpkg, rhel is Redhat Enterprise Linux |
| 22:23.05 | dpkg | okay, valdyn |
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| 22:23.12 | dougl | abrotman: followed provided links and learned but I am not sure what I upgraded to cuz some one was spoon feeding me. |
| 22:23.15 | Seb | valdyn: RedHat ;) |
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| 22:23.38 | abrotman | dougl: yes .. but what for ? |
| 22:23.45 | dougl | now trying to fill in the blanks, rather than starting from scatch |
| 22:23.47 | Blissex | cyc: odds are that your problem is about the new Intel chipset for disk access. This chipset usually supports two modes of operation: AHCI and legacy. In AHCI mode you need an AHCI driver, in legacy mode it is compatible with older Intel chipsets. |
| 22:23.55 | peritus | Seb: i have looked for changes for my NIC, but the changelog from 2.6.11 is like 10M |
| 22:23.55 | valdyn | dpkg: rhel =~ s/Redhat/RedHat/ |
| 22:23.55 | dpkg | OK, valdyn |
| 22:23.58 | nostur | hi, can anyone tell me, what to edit to get after boot to shell, from where i'll be able to start xserver? thanks |
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| 22:24.06 | Blissex | cyc: if you are lucky your BIOS allows you to select legacy mode, and then you can use the install. |
| 22:24.12 | Seb | peritus: want me to read it for ya ? |
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| 22:24.31 | peritus | Seb: oh, no, but thanks anyway |
| 22:24.38 | beardy | peritus: Search functions exist for a reason. |
| 22:24.41 | valdyn | peritus: searching the lkml is probably better |
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| 22:24.59 | pusling | ...if I should optimize my hardware to extract and install debian packages, what should I focus on ? |
| 22:25.03 | cyc | hmmm .... he, what surely *is* a very good info :) |
| 22:25.07 | cyc | this |
| 22:25.24 | Seb | pusling: fast HD ? |
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| 22:25.36 | valdyn | pusling: why would you do that? |
| 22:25.38 | peritus | beardy, valdyn: i have been searching, but not at lklm, ill have a look |
| 22:25.41 | dougl | abrotman: and therefore Debian's official archive key - I think I upgraded to sid with someones help, but cannot/don't know how to verify this |
| 22:25.49 | seth | anyone have preseed working? |
| 22:25.50 | pusling | valdyn: my pbuilder are often too slow ,) |
| 22:25.59 | ramy | i am trying to use kino to open edit mpeg files , but I always get "Unable to open media file" , any hints ? |
| 22:26.29 | Seb | dougl: grep -E '(sid|unstable)' /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:26.38 | dougl | Seb: thanks |
| 22:26.48 | Seb | dougl: does that return anything ? |
| 22:27.30 | drp | Seb: would I just want to copy the Xsession file from /etc/X11/Xsession to my home directory and just add the stuff to the end of the file that I want or ... basically I just want to change my default wm (fluxbox) |
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| 22:27.40 | Seb | ramy: maybe kino does only RAW vids. Try cinderella. |
| 22:27.44 | gravity | wtf |
| 22:27.53 | Seb | drp: echo fluxbox > ~/.xsession |
| 22:28.14 | gravity | drp: /etc/X11/Xsession will execute ~/.xsession for you |
| 22:28.19 | gravity | drp: Hence Seb's advice |
| 22:28.44 | dougl | Seb: don't make the mistake of thinking I know what I am doing but - it woul seem to indicate I am running sid and defines url info for soruces - so I will assume I am running sid? |
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| 22:28.51 | dougl | thanks |
| 22:28.54 | drp | Seb: thanks again ... and gravity |
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| 22:28.58 | Seb | dougl: yeah |
| 22:29.08 | Seb | dougl: now, indulge me, who made you upgrade to sid and why ? |
| 22:29.20 | Seb | dougl: don't be afraid to name names, that's the purpose of my question |
| 22:29.52 | Seb | dougl: because obviously you're a newbie, and I'd like to give 2 words to whoever made you upgrade |
| 22:29.56 | valdyn | dougl: these sources have deb in front or deb-src? |
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| 22:30.35 | Lilldude10 | how to i fix sound drivers |
| 22:30.41 | Seb | valdyn: true that. grep -E '^deb .*(sid|unstable)' /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:30.43 | KerPlunk | I just bought a hard drive caddy....and I put a 120 gig internal hdd in there(from a fedora core 3 box...I did autopartition)...and I just plugged in my caddy via usb 2.0 and I fired it up...How can I see the data on the drive? |
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| 22:31.04 | KerPlunk | There are multiple partitions on the hdd...how do I mount /dev/sda2 and the /home partition? |
| 22:31.04 | dougl | Seb: been linuxing for 7 years with redhat and mandrake - I might just be dumb... I'd have to pm with names if you still want them |
| 22:31.05 | valdyn | !fix Lilldude10 |
| 22:31.16 | KerPlunk | I have /,/home,and swap |
| 22:31.24 | Lilldude10 | l;o |
| 22:31.28 | streuner_ | Lilldude10: we need more infos |
| 22:31.31 | KerPlunk | Lilldude10: type "alsaconf" as root. |
| 22:31.35 | Lilldude10 | lol dkpg |
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| 22:31.40 | Eulex | KerPlunk, mount -t fs /dev/whatever /mountpoint |
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| 22:31.46 | streuner_ | dpkg, what are you? |
| 22:31.46 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 22:31.47 | KerPlunk | thanks Eulex |
| 22:31.47 | Stereo | KerPlunk: you could try a fdisk -l, see if you recognise the sizes |
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| 22:31.55 | Seb | KerPlunk: if this is not temporary, edit /etc/fstab and make your changes there |
| 22:31.56 | C2H5OH | good evening |
| 22:32.07 | Seb | dougl: sure |
| 22:32.08 | Lilldude10 | roof roof goes dump in dpkp lunch bag on way to vet |
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| 22:32.22 | C2H5OH | is anyone having problems with the last revision of the qt3-desinger package in Sid ?? |
| 22:32.35 | cyc | Blissex hehe if one selects "enhanced" cdrom does not even work :( |
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| 22:32.40 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | hello |
| 22:32.43 | streuner_ | C2H5OH: check out BTS |
| 22:32.48 | Pimpi | ~TimRirer |
| 22:32.54 | Pimpi | ~TimRiker |
| 22:32.55 | apt | i heard timriker is my owner http://rikers.org/ mailto:Tim@Rikers.org mailto:TimR@Debian.org maintainer of BZFlag, member of a ton of open source projects http://www.advogato.com/person/timriker/ http://sourceforge.net/users/timriker/ the guy who GPL'd SCO's ABI files, giving every Linux user the right to use them ;-), or a very cool guy. |
| 22:32.55 | C2H5OH | streuner_: BTS ? |
| 22:32.55 | Seb | dougl: so what is your actual problem now ? |
| 22:33.00 | C2H5OH | ahm |
| 22:33.02 | C2H5OH | Bug Tracking |
| 22:33.04 | C2H5OH | ok |
| 22:33.04 | KerPlunk | Eulex: -su: cd: silentbob: Input/output error |
| 22:33.05 | cyc | Blissex wait, I didn't sleep too much - well . if you disable enhanced mode, cdrom does not work :) |
| 22:33.09 | cyc | :D |
| 22:33.12 | KerPlunk | I get that after I mount my drive. |
| 22:33.12 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | hello 1 information please |
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| 22:33.22 | KerPlunk | debian:/home# mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /home |
| 22:33.23 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | i hav installed debian |
| 22:33.24 | b14ck | Is there a package for openoffice? |
| 22:33.34 | tarzeau | yes |
| 22:33.39 | streuner_ | [DJ]-FIREWORKS: your nick is annoying |
| 22:33.41 | gravity | b14ck: openoffice.org |
| 22:33.45 | KerPlunk | Stereo: fdisk -l didn't work. |
| 22:33.52 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | o_o |
| 22:33.58 | Seb | [DJ]-FIREWORKS: ask your question |
| 22:33.58 | dougl | Seb: need to config apt-secure for debian sid and I am a newbie to debian yes |
| 22:34.09 | bizkit | blootbot, that is 'The slowest and most bloated bot in the world' |
| 22:34.13 | pingouin | newbie..with sid.. ?! |
| 22:34.14 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | seb attend i not speak inglish :) |
| 22:34.14 | abrotman | dougl: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 22:34.15 | bizkit | :) |
| 22:34.20 | Eulex | KerPlunk, check your dmesg |
| 22:34.25 | Stereo | dpkg: doesn't work |
| 22:34.25 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 22:34.27 | KerPlunk | dougl: If you are a newbie to debian why are you using unstable? |
| 22:34.36 | Stereo | KerPlunk: what dpkg said |
| 22:34.38 | Seb | [DJ]-FIREWORKS: /join #debian-fr then |
| 22:34.45 | KerPlunk | !tell dougl about sid |
| 22:34.48 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | but im italian |
| 22:34.49 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | seb |
| 22:34.49 | Seb | dougl: apt-key update ? |
| 22:34.52 | pingouin | aaahhh #debian-fr |
| 22:34.56 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | i not know channel |
| 22:34.56 | gravity | !it |
| 22:34.56 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 22:35.06 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | ok tnx |
| 22:35.09 | [DJ]-FIREWORKS | :) |
| 22:35.14 | gravity | Good luck! |
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| 22:35.50 | Kerr | anyone know of a package that will autoconfigure a nat/gateway for me? |
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| 22:36.18 | streuner | Kerr: use 'ipmasq' |
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| 22:36.35 | Seb | Kerr: try shorewall |
| 22:36.42 | C2H5OH | streuner: the bug I'm talking about is quite recent |
| 22:36.46 | streuner | Kerr: setting up the other stuff is trival in debian |
| 22:36.47 | KerPlunk | Eulex: Once I did that mount command...now I can't umount it. |
| 22:36.53 | KerPlunk | Eulex: It tells me device is busy. |
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| 22:36.59 | Seb | Kerr: of course, you're in /home |
| 22:37.00 | C2H5OH | I can't place QPushButtons within windows |
| 22:37.07 | Seb | KerPlunk: of course, you're in /home |
| 22:37.13 | KerPlunk | hehe |
| 22:37.13 | KerPlunk | thanks |
| 22:37.20 | C2H5OH | nor some custom widgets I have that used to work before (3.3.5-1) |
| 22:37.27 | Eulex | KerPlunk, lsof|grep /home |
| 22:37.34 | KerPlunk | I got it...I was in /home |
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| 22:37.50 | Seb | Eulex: no, lsof /home |
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| 22:37.51 | Eulex | KerPlunk, right |
| 22:37.54 | badger | b14ck> http://openoffice.debian.net/ |
| 22:38.09 | Stereo | so, all hardware sucks |
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| 22:38.19 | Eulex | Seb, no. test for yourself. |
| 22:38.21 | dougl | $ dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 = ii libc6 2.3.5-8.1 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
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| 22:38.40 | Seb | Eulex: hrm I'm using this all the time, of course it works |
| 22:38.45 | dougl | KerPlunk: thanks :) ... I know how to google, is that good :) |
| 22:38.45 | Seb | Eulex: wdf aer you talking about ? |
| 22:38.48 | Stereo | what should I do to avoid getting hardware that really sucks? I hate having to play with fans, voltages and blue magic smoke. |
| 22:39.22 | Eulex | Seb, lsof|grep /home returns a list of programs using files in /home. lsof /home returns nothing |
| 22:39.31 | streuner | Stereo: give us more details |
| 22:39.39 | C2H5OH | never mind |
| 22:39.46 | C2H5OH | now it works |
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| 22:40.24 | KerPlunk | !tell dougl about apt-secure |
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| 22:40.42 | Seb | Eulex: you're right, my bad |
| 22:40.53 | Eulex | Seb, seems like lsof /home just lists processes that have got /home open and nothing about any processes that may have files open inside /home. they are suited for different situations. |
| 22:41.03 | levander | Anybody know a graphical diff tool that takes the same command line arguments as diff? I need a graphical diff tool that will work with svk. |
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| 22:41.24 | Seb | Eulex: yeah |
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| 22:42.55 | KerPlunk | awesome thanks for the help Eulex |
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| 22:43.00 | deadcat_ | how do i mount a hfs filesystem? its a osx dvd install image |
| 22:43.05 | KerPlunk | /var/log/messages told me to do "umount /dev/sda2 |
| 22:43.09 | Stereo | streuner: I've just spent four hours finding a patch for a raid controler on lkml, moving hard disks, checking voltages to see why the case fan wouldn't work, shorting the fan pins by mistake and producing blue magic smoke, cutting the bottom of a pci card's metal plate to make it fit inside the case, and am now trying to figure out why ethernet won't work, while my usb keyboard isn't detected. There must be a better way. |
| 22:43.11 | KerPlunk | debian:/# e2fsck /dev/sda2 |
| 22:43.17 | streuner | deadcat_: man mount ;-) |
| 22:43.23 | dougl | KerPlunk: thanks... learned that... that is where my questiong is from - apt-secure is used for sid too right? |
| 22:43.24 | deadcat_ | damn |
| 22:43.33 | deadcat_ | thats all you got for me? (= |
| 22:43.47 | Stereo | deadcat_: mount -t hfs |
| 22:43.50 | Stereo | and rtfm |
| 22:43.55 | streuner | Stereo: sure, just sell it and buy some hardware which is better supported |
| 22:44.12 | Kraiz | Hello, I downloaded the Debian testing net-installer, and I am now wondering how to use it with PPPOE-connection. |
| 22:44.16 | Stereo | streuner: how do I know in advance though? |
| 22:44.33 | streuner | Stereo: by using groups.google.com |
| 22:44.35 | deadcat_ | VFS: Can't find a HFS filesystem on dev loop0. |
| 22:44.40 | Stereo | yeah, suppose so |
| 22:44.45 | streuner | Stereo: or reading debian-ISP ML |
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| 22:44.59 | seth | I'm playing with auto install using 'preseed' method. It works.. sort of. I'm having some issues. Has anyone gotten 'preseed' working properly(as far as standard install goes)? |
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| 22:45.38 | streuner | Stereo: most people swear on '3ware' |
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| 22:45.41 | corp-mule | man, this is the busiest channel I've ever sen! |
| 22:45.42 | Stereo | yeah |
| 22:45.49 | Stereo | I've been very happy with 3ware too |
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| 22:46.05 | Stereo | I wish some companies would just come out with boxes that just work with debian |
| 22:46.39 | dondelelcaro | Stereo: there are a lot of boxes that just work... |
| 22:46.42 | Ronin | Stereo: define just works? ive had 3 here that just worked |
| 22:47.00 | Ronin | on one printing was an issue but i rarely print so i didnt mind |
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| 22:47.33 | poop | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:47.34 | loopdee | ati+linux = things can only get better .... right? |
| 22:47.40 | poop | Does that mean it's not doing LBA? |
| 22:47.44 | Kerr | streuner: i installed ipmasq; my laptop is on eth1, the internet is on eth0 .. so laptop>-eth1->debian box>-eth0->internet .. what should i do next :-/ the man page is no help, it just tells me ususe files in a dir, which mas many files i know nothing about. |
| 22:47.57 | valdyn | loopdee: older ati chips are very well supported |
| 22:48.11 | loopdee | wish i had an older one |
| 22:48.38 | KerPlunk | Eulex: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/BRq0QL96.html |
| 22:48.44 | loopdee | okay, how does the debian installer know my domain name?? |
| 22:48.52 | KerPlunk | Do I want to force rewrite or no...I'm not sure what this means exactly. |
| 22:49.01 | valdyn | loopdee: you're telling it via dhcp? |
| 22:49.02 | KerPlunk | dougl: You just want to stop getting those warning messages right? |
| 22:49.25 | Eulex | KerPlunk, ouch |
| 22:49.40 | loopdee | valdyn: yes then it must be from the dhcp server ( my router ) phew... i thought it was psychc |
| 22:49.46 | Eulex | KerPlunk, I dunno, but it looks serious |
| 22:50.02 | streuner | Kerr: read the docs about ipmasq as well (/usr/share/doc/ipmasq) |
| 22:50.27 | KerPlunk | Eulex: Serious like I have bad sectors...or serious like I have to reformat?...or serious like I have a big paper weight? |
| 22:50.49 | dougl | KerPlunk: yes... I cannot find the exact one but the one that you need to force the -y option one for a base-config/package install. |
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| 22:51.26 | Eulex | KerPlunk, I dunno. |
| 22:51.26 | streuner | Kerr: usually its enough to install ipmasq on the server and setting up 'intefaces' on the clients |
| 22:51.37 | dougl | I prefer to ensure the security of my code tho as the stuff I am gonna work on is propietary... someone is gonna work on anyway |
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| 22:52.05 | Pimpi | !debian version php5 |
| 22:52.19 | dougl | security is a minor concern on the box - learning is major. |
| 22:52.31 | streuner | Pimpi: /msg dpkg info <package> |
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| 22:52.51 | KerPlunk | Eulex: What will happen if I force rewrite? |
| 22:53.04 | Pimpi | streuner: which of them is !, isn't it riker's bot? |
| 22:53.06 | streuner | Pimpi: /msg dpkg info <package> (unstable, testing, stable) |
| 22:53.10 | Pimpi | should work then |
| 22:53.15 | Eulex | KerPlunk, as I said, I dunno. |
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| 22:54.48 | pingouin | is there a way to know when the distro has been installated ? |
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| 22:55.11 | gravity | uh... |
| 22:55.14 | pingouin | not update/upgrade but installation |
| 22:55.21 | mcm | Seb: thanks for your help. it was more a .bash_profile and .profile problem. |
| 22:55.24 | gravity | When it tells you that it's done and you need to reboot? |
| 22:55.26 | dougl | KerPlunk: did I miss your reply? |
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| 22:56.16 | KerPlunk | dougl: Did you go to the page dpkg told you to...that url and "page 5" |
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| 22:56.25 | KerPlunk | dougl: dpkg told you how to stop getting those warnings. |
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| 22:57.26 | dougl | KerPlunk: absolutly... same info applies for sid is my question. |
| 22:58.12 | KerPlunk | dougl: yes |
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| 22:59.12 | starfishy | i am trying to net-install debian sarge from a local server, using the |
| 22:59.18 | starfishy | 'current' sarge netboot image |
| 22:59.43 | starfishy | the system pxe-boots correctly and hands over the initrd and kernel |
| 22:59.48 | starfishy | and the preseed file |
| 22:59.53 | Kerr | streuner: I've followed at least a half dozen howtos to no avail. The client is a windows laptop. I know it's set up right, because i'm using it now to ssh to my debian box :-/ |
| 23:00.03 | starfishy | then the install stops, complaining that the kernel cannot find the modules |
| 23:00.26 | starfishy | which are in the initrd in /lib/modules/2.4.... |
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| 23:00.28 | dougl | Debian's official archive key works for sid - sorry just don't want to mess things up again. |
| 23:01.28 | cyc | Blissex http://blog.blackdown.de/2005/06/26/debian-installer-with-kernel-2611/ :) |
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| 23:04.41 | penguin_ | The requested document does not exist in the database !! I have no help for OpenOffice? |
| 23:04.56 | id3rfix | use latex |
| 23:05.02 | id3rfix | it's better |
| 23:05.16 | KerPlunk | Eulex: I just did e2fsck -y /dev/sda2 |
| 23:05.23 | KerPlunk | Hopefully I have some data left when this is done. |
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| 23:06.27 | id3rfix | it's free software latex |
| 23:06.30 | Pimpi | hiho orchid |
| 23:06.38 | id3rfix | the same is for eulex ? |
| 23:06.39 | orchid | hey Pimpi |
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| 23:07.08 | id3rfix | i was on #debian-it |
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| 23:07.15 | Eulex | id3rfix, wha? |
| 23:07.19 | id3rfix | it's full of stupid boys |
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| 23:07.43 | Eulex | KerPlunk, ok |
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| 23:08.05 | id3rfix | it's possible that a # about distribution Gnu/linux it's a point of community chat ? |
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| 23:08.46 | penguin_ | How to set your locale in openoffice????? |
| 23:08.55 | id3rfix | i never want enter in that # until a.maggi is the author of the # |
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| 23:10.41 | Seb | penguin_: you set in the shell that you use to run openoffice |
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| 23:10.57 | Seb | penguin_: also, you install the corresponding localized package for openoffice |
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| 23:11.32 | Seb | penguin_: help for openoffice is in a separate package |
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| 23:14.51 | barnacleboy | anyone around? |
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| 23:14.59 | Ronin | nope |
| 23:14.59 | streuner | barnacleboy: no |
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| 23:15.15 | streuner | barnacleboy: just ask |
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| 23:15.40 | barnacleboy | im havin trouble with my debian install |
| 23:16.16 | streuner | what kind of problems do you have? |
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| 23:16.52 | barnacleboy | its kind of difficult |
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| 23:17.15 | streuner | most of the problems are caused by using a videocard which isn't supported? |
| 23:17.28 | KerPlunk | How can I format an external hdd...It's /dev/sda2 |
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| 23:18.12 | streuner | KerPlunk: man mkfs |
| 23:18.12 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: same as any other partition - which filesystem do you want? |
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| 23:19.03 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: What would you put? |
| 23:19.13 | vincent` | just installed sarge from netinstall, during the base install it's breaking and saying it has to temporarily remove e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. whats going on ? |
| 23:19.14 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: do you need it to work with windows? |
| 23:19.16 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: I want this external hdd to be easily read by windows and my debian box. |
| 23:19.22 | KerPlunk | yea, that would be nice. |
| 23:19.29 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: fat32 in that case |
| 23:19.35 | KerPlunk | k |
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| 23:19.47 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: assuming you don't need permissions |
| 23:19.49 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: I can put 4 gig files on this fs? |
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| 23:19.57 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: nah, I don't. |
| 23:20.03 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: I tihnk 4GB is the limit on fat32 |
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| 23:20.32 | Blissex | bbrazil: 2GB for files. Its signed. |
| 23:20.35 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: if you need bigger you'll have to go for ext2 and drivers in windows for it, or ntfs but you'll only have read-only in linux |
| 23:21.04 | KerPlunk | debian:/# mkfs -V -t fat32 /dev/sda2 |
| 23:21.04 | KerPlunk | mkfs version 2.12r (Dec 7 2005) |
| 23:21.04 | KerPlunk | mkfs.fat32 /dev/sda2 |
| 23:21.04 | KerPlunk | mkfs.fat32: No such file or directory |
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| 23:21.17 | KerPlunk | Do I need to mount the hdd first? |
| 23:21.25 | KerPlunk | I can only mount it as ext3(what is was) |
| 23:21.56 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: you sure its sda2? |
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| 23:22.22 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: yea |
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| 23:22.39 | KerPlunk | debian:/# mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /external |
| 23:22.44 | KerPlunk | I can see the files in /external |
| 23:22.58 | KerPlunk | This hdd has a few partitions though... a swap, /home and / |
| 23:23.07 | KerPlunk | I want to format the entire thing, it's 120gigs |
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| 23:23.33 | penguin_ | Package openoffice.org-help-en is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:23.34 | penguin_ | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 23:23.34 | penguin_ | is only available from another source |
| 23:23.39 | penguin_ | What does this mean? |
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| 23:23.50 | Kraiz | Hello. Is it possible to do a Debian testing netinstall using a PPPOE connection? |
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| 23:24.41 | penguin_ | Any Debian gurus here? |
| 23:25.38 | streuner | penguin_: just ask |
| 23:25.44 | bbrazil | KerPlunk: ah, I see the problem now - mkfs.fat32 isn't installed |
| 23:25.51 | penguin_ | Package openoffice.org-help-en is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 23:25.51 | penguin_ | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 23:25.51 | penguin_ | is only available from another source |
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| 23:26.11 | Kerr | streuner: I started bind9 and set the lappy to look at my pc for a dns server now all is fine :) thanks for your help |
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| 23:26.49 | KerPlunk | bbrazil: I have mkfs.vfat |
| 23:26.52 | KerPlunk | Will that work? |
| 23:27.00 | KerPlunk | My usb thumb drive is vfat...and linux and windows can read it. |
| 23:27.01 | arnon | hi guys, is there a theory somewhere that justified when should I upgrade my processor ? |
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| 23:27.12 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: yes, there's no such thing as mkfs.fat32 |
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| 23:27.24 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/... |
| 23:27.40 | Blissex | arnon: not really. |
| 23:28.01 | Blissex | arnon: I usually upgrade when I can get something that's twice as fast according to some benchmarks. |
| 23:28.04 | Borromini | hello guys |
| 23:28.10 | arnon | Blissex, I see |
| 23:28.13 | KerPlunk | cool...it's working |
| 23:28.17 | KerPlunk | Thanks bbrazil and SerajewelKS |
| 23:28.20 | KerPlunk | I appreciate the help. |
| 23:28.20 | Borromini | I have a question about build scripts... |
| 23:28.22 | Blissex | arnon: or when games start to feel slow. |
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| 23:28.42 | cr3 | anyone happen to know of something like fetchmail but for newsgroups? |
| 23:29.29 | Borromini | how can I make buildscipts accept arguments? |
| 23:29.30 | loopdee | after apt-get installs the kernel source, it is a bz2 in /usr/src, i extract that, what permissions needs to be set on the dir, and what linck to /usr/src/linux |
| 23:29.30 | arnon | Blissex, when you upgrade your processor and games become a big temptation and makes your life counter productive, how can I handle that |
| 23:29.32 | Borromini | When I issue # buildscript --help it only displays the help after running the build script... Not before as supposed to? |
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| 23:29.32 | KerPlunk | SerajewelKS / bbrazil I did "mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda2" but when I mount it and do df -h...it shows it as 98G...but it's a 120 gig hdd |
| 23:29.42 | KerPlunk | Did it only format /home...and not / and the swap maybe? |
| 23:29.52 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: it formatted the second partition |
| 23:29.52 | KerPlunk | I had three partitions on this drive... /home, / and swap |
| 23:29.59 | KerPlunk | SerajewelKS: How can I have it format everything? |
| 23:30.00 | Blissex | arnon: well, I am not the best person to ask how to handle that :-) |
| 23:30.09 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: delete the partitions and create one big partition |
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| 23:30.17 | KerPlunk | How do I delete partitions? |
| 23:30.22 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: fdisk |
| 23:30.24 | KerPlunk | k |
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| 23:31.08 | Borromini | anyone? |
| 23:31.16 | streuner | !anyone |
| 23:31.17 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 23:31.19 | beardy | Borromini: /msg dpkg anyone |
| 23:31.49 | Borromini | what means /msg dpkg anyone? |
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| 23:32.01 | bob2 | !+seen abrotman |
| 23:32.02 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 57m 48s ago, saying: 'dougl: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1'. |
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| 23:32.30 | streuner | Borromini: /message dpkg (bot) anyone (factoid) |
| 23:32.34 | beoba | OLO |
| 23:32.37 | streuner | bob2: = |
| 23:32.41 | streuner | bob2: ? |
| 23:32.48 | Borromini | erm |
| 23:32.54 | Early | how i must proceed for ask a question? |
| 23:32.55 | nono31 | where there special changed in networking in debian sid theses last weeks? I was using p2p software (edonkey) and now it almost does not work... |
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| 23:33.12 | Ronin | Early: just ask your question |
| 23:33.26 | Early | i have some trouble with ndiswrapper |
| 23:33.34 | KerPlunk | SerajewelKS: When I do fdisk -l...it says on the last line.. "Unable to seek on /dev/sda |
| 23:33.37 | KerPlunk | " |
| 23:33.37 | Early | i don't succeed ton configure my pcmcia card |
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| 23:33.50 | KerPlunk | Early: What wireless card? |
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| 23:34.00 | KerPlunk | Early: Maybe try to /join #wireless or /join #ndiswrapper |
| 23:34.02 | SerajewelKS | KerPlunk: uhm... then you're fucked, basically... |
| 23:34.08 | Early | Belkin F5D7010 it s compatible |
| 23:34.13 | KerPlunk | SerajewelKS: Why? |
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| 23:34.36 | KerPlunk | SerajewelKS: I can mount /dev/sda2 and send data to it. |
| 23:34.48 | Early | yes i m looking for on this chan |
| 23:34.52 | KerPlunk | But I want to make the fs as big as the entire hdd...now just as big as /home was. |
| 23:34.58 | Early | but can you help me? |
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| 23:35.37 | dts | I wrote a simple script that provides a service. What's the easiest way to have that script be loaded by an init.d script |
| 23:35.47 | bob2 | KerPlunk: unable to seek might mean the partition table is corrupt |
| 23:35.47 | dts | so that i retain all the start stop funcitons |
| 23:35.52 | bob2 | and it's seeking too far into the disk |
| 23:35.58 | beardy | dts: /etc/init.d/README |
| 23:35.59 | bob2 | tho I missed the beginining of your question |
| 23:36.11 | loopdee | !sane |
| 23:36.11 | dpkg | Scanner Access Now Easy makes scanning...easy, or http://www.sane-project.org/ |
| 23:36.28 | beardy | dts: /msg dpkg update-rc.d and rcconf |
| 23:36.35 | KerPlunk | bob2: I formatted my old fedora internal ide drive(it's in an external hdd caddy now).... bob2 but I only formatted my /home partition from that hdd. |
| 23:36.40 | dougl | how do you un-install apt-secure? |
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| 23:36.51 | KerPlunk | My fedora box had /home(100 gigs) /(15ish gigs) and a swap |
| 23:37.03 | KerPlunk | bob2: I want to format the entire drive as a 120 gig fs...(the size of the hdd) |
| 23:37.06 | bob2 | dougl: downgrade to an older apt |
| 23:37.15 | dts | beardy: are those tools? |
| 23:37.16 | bob2 | dougl: you can just make it stfu if that's why you want to get rid of it, tho |
| 23:37.44 | bob2 | KerPlunk: but you don't want to lose what's on the partition? |
| 23:37.50 | beardy | dts: Read what dpkg tells you. |
| 23:37.56 | KerPlunk | bob2: no I don't care. |
| 23:38.13 | KerPlunk | bob2: I just want to wipe this drive and dump my music on it to free up my laptop hdd space(debian) |
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| 23:38.23 | dougl | bob2: lol - that will do :) |
| 23:38.26 | bob2 | KerPlunk: ahhhh, ok, but fdisk won't let you delete it |
| 23:38.31 | KerPlunk | I dunno |
| 23:38.37 | bob2 | hm? |
| 23:38.39 | KerPlunk | fdisk -l says it can't seek /dev/sda2 |
| 23:38.45 | KerPlunk | I have done this.. |
| 23:39.04 | dougl | !tell dougl about apt-secure stfu |
| 23:39.07 | bob2 | hrm |
| 23:39.10 | KerPlunk | mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda2 |
| 23:39.18 | KerPlunk | But that only formated /home(98G) |
| 23:39.22 | KerPlunk | I want to format the whole thing.. |
| 23:39.29 | bob2 | you can mkfs.vfat -F32 /dev/sda |
| 23:39.29 | KerPlunk | I'm not sure where / and swap are and how to include those./ |
| 23:39.35 | KerPlunk | ahh ok |
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| 23:39.36 | KerPlunk | I'll do that. |
| 23:39.39 | bob2 | but I don't know if windows will like that |
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| 23:39.48 | bob2 | it probably only likes filesystems inside partitions |
| 23:39.58 | beardy | dts: But yes, update-rc.d is a tool to add and remove things that should start, or not. /etc/init.d/README tells you how the scripts there works. |
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| 23:40.28 | KerPlunk | debian:~# mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda |
| 23:40.28 | KerPlunk | mkfs.vfat 2.11 (12 Mar 2005) |
| 23:40.30 | KerPlunk | mkfs.vfat: Will not try to make filesystem on full-disk device '/dev/sda' (use -I if wanted |
| 23:40.32 | dts | beardy: actually it has a link to some debian website |
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| 23:40.39 | KerPlunk | bob2: Just use the -I option? |
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| 23:41.01 | beardy | dts: Follow it then? |
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| 23:41.02 | KerPlunk | bob2: So how should I set it up? |
| 23:41.03 | bob2 | one sec |
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| 23:41.21 | fevoldj2 | Hi, after installing Debian, my friend is unable to boot from a floppy and it just goes straight to grub. |
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| 23:41.37 | bob2 | KerPlunk: I think so |
| 23:41.38 | fevoldj2 | He's trying to boot a windows floppy so he can repair his mbr |
| 23:41.42 | bob2 | fevoldj2: that's a bios setting |
| 23:41.44 | KerPlunk | fevoldj2: That has nothing to do with debian....that has to do with the bios. |
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| 23:41.59 | fevoldj2 | Of course he changed the floppy to boot first |
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| 23:42.02 | beardy | fevoldj2: Make sure the floppy is the first bootable device in your/his bios. |
| 23:42.05 | fevoldj2 | It is |
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| 23:42.10 | beardy | yours |
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| 23:42.11 | loopdee | i am now at the Configuring xserver-xfree86 screen of the net installer.... i have a ati 9500 should i install the ati x server driver? |
| 23:42.15 | bob2 | KerPlunk: it sounds to me that it's just your partition table is fucked up; using mkfs on the whole disk will destroy it, and then fdisk should be able partition it again |
| 23:42.16 | loopdee | or vesa |
| 23:42.17 | fevoldj2 | I've had problems with grub not wanting to boot my bootable cds before. |
| 23:42.27 | KerPlunk | /dev/sda 32G 16K 32G 1% /external |
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| 23:42.28 | |splat| | in the current stable release, is there a pcmcia driver floppy? all i see is the netdriver |
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| 23:42.35 | bob2 | I don't see how it can be a Debian issue |
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| 23:42.38 | bob2 | or a grub one |
| 23:42.46 | KerPlunk | bob2: My /dev/sda2 fs was 98G...I lost 66G heh |
| 23:42.47 | bob2 | the bios decides whether to load grub or a floppy |
| 23:42.54 | beardy | or a cdrom |
| 23:42.56 | bob2 | KerPlunk: oh, wow |
| 23:43.02 | fevoldj2 | I know it should. When grub wasn't there, floppies booted fine though. |
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| 23:43.10 | bob2 | KerPlunk: maybe fat32 can't go past 98GB? |
| 23:43.10 | fevoldj2 | A cdrom boots alright, just not floppies. |
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| 23:43.23 | bob2 | loopdee: yes |
| 23:43.24 | KerPlunk | bob2: o, I didn't know that. |
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| 23:43.35 | loopdee | bob2: the vesa? |
| 23:43.37 | bob2 | loopdee: I don't know if a 9500 has acceleration with the Free X driver |
| 23:43.42 | bob2 | loopdee: oh, ati |
| 23:43.50 | bob2 | loopdee: only read the first bit of your question |
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| 23:44.24 | loopdee | bob2: okay, i'll give it a try, if it doesnt work, then it will boot me to a command prompt and what do i do to change it? |
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| 23:44.37 | KerPlunk | I'm just going to mkfs.ext3, then do mkfs.vfat again...and maybe mkfs.ext3 will fix my partition table(if it's broken I have no idea). |
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| 23:44.52 | karsten | KerPlunk: Nope |
| 23:44.53 | Tarantulafudge | sup |
| 23:44.58 | Tarantulafudge | anyone have experience with vhcs? |
| 23:45.02 | douglas | bob2: a few years ago you told me what to do when on a new install visitors would get a pop up "How do you want to handle this PHTML file" ... was that an apache conf tweak or installing php on the system, off hand? |
| 23:45.03 | karsten | KerPlunk: Won't touch your partition table, and it would be a bug if it did. |
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| 23:45.11 | KerPlunk | /dev/sda 32G 129M 30G 1% /external |
| 23:45.19 | KerPlunk | hmm, ext3 shows it as 32G |
| 23:45.20 | KerPlunk | heh' |
| 23:45.20 | beardy | Tarantulafudge: Just ask your question please. |
| 23:45.26 | KerPlunk | This is a 120 gig hdd I swear. |
| 23:45.38 | Reilithion | !tell Tarantulafudge about ask |
| 23:45.43 | karsten | KerPlunk: Sec, reading backlog. |
| 23:45.52 | bob2 | loopdee: ' dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 ' |
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| 23:45.59 | loopdee | bob2: thanks |
| 23:46.04 | cat | !tell cat about ask |
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| 23:46.16 | karsten | KerPlunk: You want to nuke the drive and create a single large partition, right? |
| 23:46.17 | beardy | cat: /msg dpkg instead |
| 23:46.26 | douglas | bob2: or does the fix have neither to do with apache or php |
| 23:46.26 | karsten | KerPlunk: ... w/ no current data to save. |
| 23:46.27 | bob2 | douglas: it could be either |
| 23:46.28 | KerPlunk | karsten: yea...or whatever is easiest. |
| 23:46.39 | KerPlunk | karsten: i just want an external hdd to dump porn/music/movies on. |
| 23:46.40 | bob2 | douglas: if .phtml is a .php file, it's apache or php's fault |
| 23:46.42 | douglas | Ok so we got the possibilities covered :) |
| 23:46.46 | karsten | KerPlunk: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=512 count 20 |
| 23:46.47 | douglas | it's a .php |
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| 23:46.51 | cat | beardy : :) |
| 23:46.55 | KerPlunk | karsten: I want it to be compatible with windows and linux if possible. |
| 23:46.57 | sdakota | hi |
| 23:46.59 | KerPlunk | But if not then just linux. |
| 23:47.00 | karsten | KerPlunk: ... should nuke everything in the vicinity of the partition table. |
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| 23:47.13 | dougl | bob2: how do I make apt-secure stfu? |
| 23:47.18 | karsten | KerPlunk: ... then 'fdisk /dev/sda' and repartition, build filesystems, etc. |
| 23:47.21 | Tarantulafudge | In vhcs, when I try to send mail (it uses postfix) I get the following error: SMTP Error: Recipient not accepted. Verify your relay rules, (emailing myself) and when emailing from on outside source, I get an error reply with 66.61.77.245 does not like recipient. Remote host said: 550 <ommitted>: Recipient address rejected: User unknown in local recipient table Giving up on <ommitted>. |
| 23:47.34 | KerPlunk | dd: unrecognized operand `count' |
| 23:47.35 | Tarantulafudge | argh |
| 23:47.44 | bob2 | dougl: if /var/log/apache/error.log says thw php module is loaded, it's a config issue |
| 23:47.50 | bob2 | dougl: ie lack of AddType lines |
| 23:48.02 | douglas | got it |
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| 23:48.08 | sdakota | I was compiling libsasl2 when I got a few errors: saslint.h:112: error: previous declaration of 'global_callbacks' was here and client.c:863: warning: unused parameter 'rock' in function _sasl_print_mechanism.... how to solve that? |
| 23:48.09 | Azar | hello honorables: dumb question but I simply forgot where is the directory, file that holds the DNS info... |
| 23:48.20 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: that's postfix being misconfigured or vhcs spewing crap at it |
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| 23:48.25 | KerPlunk | Disk /dev/sda: 33.8 GB, 33820286464 bytes |
| 23:48.25 | KerPlunk | 64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 32253 cylinders |
| 23:48.25 | KerPlunk | Units = cylinders of 2048 * 512 = 1048576 bytes |
| 23:48.27 | bob2 | Azar: /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 23:48.32 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: do you k now how i can fix it? |
| 23:48.36 | Azar | bob2 , much obliged, thank you |
| 23:48.39 | KerPlunk | karsten: That is what "p" tells me when I fdisk /dev/sda...but this hdd is 120 gigs |
| 23:48.49 | bob2 | Azar: np |
| 23:49.03 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: i can give you full access, this is just a testing box |
| 23:49.29 | sdakota | I was compiling libsasl2 when I got a few errors: saslint.h:112: error: previous declaration of 'global_callbacks' was here and client.c:863: warning: unused parameter 'rock' in function _sasl_print_mechanism.... could anyone help me to solve this? |
| 23:49.30 | bob2 | no way, dude. |
| 23:49.38 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: lol |
| 23:49.44 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: *sniff* |
| 23:49.46 | bob2 | sdakota: libsasl2 isn't in Debian? |
| 23:49.55 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: what could POSSIBLY go wrong? |
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| 23:50.04 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: anyway, the default debian postfix config works fine |
| 23:50.19 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: for vhcs? |
| 23:50.20 | douglas | bobesponja: nothing shows up on the error log when i fire up the page, both after having saved as and before.. |
| 23:50.23 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: so, 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix' and set it up again and tell it to be an internet site |
| 23:50.23 | douglas | i mean bob2: |
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| 23:50.44 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: I have no idea in which ways vhcs molests configu files |
| 23:50.51 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: it's that thing like cpanl, right? |
| 23:50.54 | sdakota | bob2: postfix compilation gave me /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lsasl (i'm compiling postfix because I need VDA) |
| 23:51.00 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: correct |
| 23:51.06 | bob2 | douglas: no, I mean, look at the server startup string, does it say it loaded php? |
| 23:51.11 | karsten | KerPlunk: How old's your bios? |
| 23:51.14 | bob2 | sdakota: heh, postfix is also in Debian... |
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| 23:51.20 | bob2 | sdakota: anyway, sudo apt-get build-dep postfix |
| 23:51.20 | douglas | ohh gotchya. On it. |
| 23:51.24 | karsten | KerPlunk: 33 GB is a classic bios limit. |
| 23:51.30 | KerPlunk | karsten: I just bought this laptop a year ago. |
| 23:51.38 | sdakota | bob2: read the "because I need VDA" and think after that, "as it isn't in Debian" |
| 23:51.42 | KerPlunk | It's a toshiba. |
| 23:51.45 | KerPlunk | satelite |
| 23:51.52 | karsten | KerPlunk: http://www.pcguide.com/ref/hdd/bios/sizeGB315-c.html |
| 23:52.07 | bob2 | sdakota: erk, sorry, going blind. anyway, apt as above'll fix it for you. |
| 23:52.09 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: whats the smarthost about? |
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| 23:52.20 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: theres internet site, and internet site with smarthost |
| 23:52.21 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: that's your ISP's (or colo's) mail relay |
| 23:52.27 | KerPlunk | karsten: But I just did mkfs.vfat -F 32 /dev/sda2 20 minutes ago....and that made a 98G partition |
| 23:52.38 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: if you're running an actual mail server, you usually don't have a smarthost |
| 23:52.38 | sdakota | bob2: VDA is for quota's in virtual users environment. Thanks, the build-dep seemed to work ! :) |
| 23:52.43 | KerPlunk | karsten: But I was unhappy with 98G...I wanted the full 120 gigs |
| 23:52.52 | bob2 | sdakota: oh, neat, I've been looking for something like that |
| 23:52.56 | karsten | KerPlunk: Possibly useful: http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Large-Disk-HOWTO-3.html |
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| 23:53.15 | bob2 | KerPlunk: according to wikipedia, it supports 2TB partitions, so I guess it's not that |
| 23:53.22 | KerPlunk | karsten: So I did /dev/sda...and now it's only 32G |
| 23:53.24 | sdakota | bob2: btw, same error still - i'll try to relogin |
| 23:53.25 | karsten | KerPlunk: IIRC vfat has a max partition size limitation, I don't recall it offhand. You may be able to play with blocksize on it. |
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| 23:53.51 | bob2 | sdakota: it's possible libsasl doesn't build in debian without patches that the debian package includes |
| 23:53.54 | KerPlunk | Does it look like my partition table is fucked up? |
| 23:53.58 | karsten | KerPlunk: What kernel? |
| 23:54.04 | sdakota | bob2: no, didn't work :( |
| 23:54.07 | KerPlunk | karsten: But when I do mkfs.ext3...it is also 32G |
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| 23:54.11 | KerPlunk | same as mkfs.vfat |
| 23:54.12 | karsten | KerPlunk: Not bloody likely, and absolutely not possible if you've rewritten the drive. |
| 23:54.20 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: how do i accept mail from behind a router? |
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| 23:54.42 | karsten | KerPlunk: 33.8 is a known bios/kernel sizing issue. Please read the refs I've given you. |
| 23:54.43 | KerPlunk | Could it be bad blocks or something? |
| 23:54.49 | KerPlunk | k |
| 23:54.50 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: where "router" = "my home cable or dsl modem, btw I only have one ip from isp"? |
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| 23:55.04 | RoundQube | hello all |
| 23:55.09 | karsten | KerPlunk: I have neither time nor patience. I'm telling you what I know. And no, your instincts aren't doing you much good ;-) |
| 23:55.15 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: correct |
| 23:55.26 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: pat |
| 23:55.27 | RoundQube | i am trying to implement a wiki-based documentation for our intranet. Which distributions are most popular and supported? |
| 23:55.34 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: configure it to forward port 25 into your mail server |
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| 23:55.48 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: i have all that working already |
| 23:55.50 | sdakota | bob2: still doesn't work - so how do I fix the sasl2 compiling problem? |
| 23:55.58 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: if you're on home dsl, people will refuse email you send unless it goes through your isp's mail relay |
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| 23:56.06 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: i just need configuration, like do i have to masquerade it like proftpd |
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| 23:56.21 | Kerr | how would i go about killing this process? 10885 0.0 0.4 293800 1232 ? D 23:43 0:00 /usr/lib/transgaming_cedega//winex/bin/wine-preloader |
| 23:56.21 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: its cable |
| 23:56.30 | blablablablabla | I tried to get started using docbook-website but I don't get any xslt processor convert it, they don't find "../schema/dtd/website.dtd". Converting other docbook files using sgmltools works as expected. Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? |
| 23:56.34 | RoundQube | KerPlunk kill 10885 |
| 23:56.36 | Ronin | Tarantulafudge: same problem most likely |
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| 23:56.40 | RoundQube | or force by kill -9 10885 |
| 23:56.47 | bob2 | sdakota: that error sounds to me like the sasl code is broken...can you try building the debian sasl source with whatever patch you have? |
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| 23:57.06 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: I don't understand what you mean, masquerading is not service-specific |
| 23:57.07 | Kerr | RoundQube: tried that, and that :-/ |
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| 23:57.14 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: reconfigured it and i still got the same error |
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| 23:57.23 | RoundQube | Kerr if it wont die with kill -9 then i dunno |
| 23:57.26 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: that sounds like a problem with vhcs |
| 23:57.28 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: its a configuration option you can set |
| 23:57.34 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: in proftpd |
| 23:57.44 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: ok |
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| 23:57.54 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: anyway, you don't need to tell postfix about that |
| 23:57.54 | Kerr | it's D, whatever that means :-/ |
| 23:57.55 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: makes it not care that the connection is made to a specified ip and not its own |
| 23:58.17 | *** join/#debian bonggnu (n=eric@206-23-28.dial.terra.cl) |
| 23:58.26 | bob2 | Kerr: does the end of "dmesg" have anything worrying? |
| 23:58.35 | bob2 | Tarantulafudge: how would postfix know? |
| 23:58.36 | sdakota | bob2: how to build the sasl2 debian source..?... |
| 23:58.44 | sdakota | bob2: I never built a source package using dpkg, only prebuilt packages |
| 23:58.53 | cmatei | hi. i'm trying to "cross-install" debian. deboostrap --arch arm blah-blah, while on a x86 machine barfs when it tries to mount /proc & friends in the chroot |
| 23:58.58 | bob2 | sdakota: apt-get source sasl2, it'll download and unpack in pwd |
| 23:59.08 | cmatei | i take it it's not possible to do this ? |
| 23:59.08 | *** join/#debian chealer (i=chealer@pdpc/supporter/student/chealer) |
| 23:59.10 | bob2 | sdakota: then apply the patch, and run 'dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us' |
| 23:59.19 | sdakota | bob2: what patch?... |
| 23:59.33 | *** part/#debian Bushito (i=bushito@cbl-st-01-205.aster.com.do) |
| 23:59.33 | sdakota | bob2: E: Unable to find a source package for sasl2 |
| 23:59.40 | RoundQube | anyone use a wiki such as PhpWiki (using a mysql db backend)? |
| 23:59.44 | bob2 | cmatei: that seems fine if it pukes after unpacking everything |
| 23:59.52 | bob2 | sdakota: aren't you trying to apply a VDA patch to sasl? |
| 23:59.55 | SerajewelKS | !tell RoundQube about anyone |
| 23:59.58 | Tarantulafudge | bob2: because the message is aimed at a global ip, and postfix sees it as different mail because it was sent to something other than its own ip |
