| 00:00.28 | RoundQube | SimonRaven here's my /etc/phpwiki/apache.conf |
| 00:00.28 | RoundQube | Alias /phpwikidata /usr/share/phpwiki/ |
| 00:00.28 | RoundQube | Alias /phpwiki/ /usr/share/phpwiki/index.php/ |
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| 00:00.49 | bucky | RoundQube, usually the directions will tell you to add a line at the end of httpd.conf or apache2.conf like 'Include /usr/share/phpwiki/apache.conf' |
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| 00:01.12 | SimonRaven | what bucky said. some packages add it for you |
| 00:01.21 | bucky | RoundQube, have you read the INSTALL file or the README file? |
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| 00:01.46 | RoundQube | hmm i'd think the debian one would because i've followed many howtos and all they say is to install the package, configure config.ini and it should be good to go |
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| 00:02.13 | pablo4545 | hi, i cant install zlib using apt-get, do you know how is the package called |
| 00:02.17 | SimonRaven | read README.Debian if there is one |
| 00:02.30 | SimonRaven | zlib1g |
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| 00:03.38 | RoundQube | even when i go to http://10.1.0.59/phpwiki/index.php it cannot find file |
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| 00:03.59 | RoundQube | and i know it exists, sometimes if i drop index.php into the root document folder, my browser asks me to download the file |
| 00:04.03 | bsims_ | hrm this is odd I tried the firefox out of experimental didn't like it I purged it and downgraded to the one in sid, and it now works and loads all extentions when I start it with firefox --safemode. But it will not start at all or give me any error messages when I start it with straight firefox. I have uninstalled it deleted anything it left behind and let it reinstall everything and recreated my profile still nothing any ideas |
| 00:04.04 | RoundQube | its like apache doesn't know how to process the php file |
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| 00:04.27 | SimonRaven | RoundQube: enable php processing.... see comments in httpd|apache2.conf |
| 00:04.33 | RoundQube | ok |
| 00:04.45 | bsims_ | well I figured it was in experimental so maybe something odd was going on with the package |
| 00:04.49 | bpuzon | Hi, is there any console command line calculator in debian? |
| 00:04.58 | SimonRaven | it pays to read the docs |
| 00:05.03 | SimonRaven | bpuzon: bc, dc |
| 00:05.09 | bpuzon | SimonRaven Thx |
| 00:05.34 | SimonRaven | i often use bc -li |
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| 00:05.50 | RoundQube | is this line correct though? Alias /phpwiki/ /usr/share/phpwiki/index.php it was Alias /phpwiki/ /usr/share/phpwiki/index.php/ |
| 00:05.54 | RoundQube | with the trailing / |
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| 00:06.03 | RoundQube | i changed it because i dont see why it would have a trailing / |
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| 00:06.41 | SimonRaven | it's called playing with mod_rewrite |
| 00:06.41 | bucky | RoundQube, make a file /var/www/phpinfo.php with this in it <?php phpinfo(); ?> and browse to it with your mozilla at http://localhost/phpinfo.php |
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| 00:07.20 | SimonRaven | there's a different way to do that though, you can do something like |
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| 00:07.41 | SimonRaven | ScriptAlias /phpwiki/ /use/share/phpwiki/index.php |
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| 00:08.03 | Knight_Lord | I need to buy a router for home. Can anyone suggest a good one? I would like one with wireless capability |
| 00:08.06 | SimonRaven | then stick that with php-cgi |
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| 00:08.16 | RoundQube | thanks ill try that |
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| 00:08.51 | SimonRaven | no, get that first one going first. it's easier |
| 00:09.05 | RoundQube | i've added the AddType, or rather uncommented the ones to use php and when i go to http://localhost/phpinfo.php i still get a file download |
| 00:09.07 | RoundQube | hrmmm |
| 00:09.13 | SimonRaven | there are security implications with running as a cgi, too |
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| 00:09.36 | SJr|Tecra | What does CGI do anyway? |
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| 00:09.51 | douglas_ | poor man's php |
| 00:09.54 | SimonRaven | CGI == common gateway interface. it's a spec |
| 00:09.59 | RoundQube | AddType application/x-httpd-php .php |
| 00:10.01 | jimr | MORE kernel version questions... yesterday I successfully updated my primary Debian box to sarge (with help from this forum). Today I attemped to upgrade an ancient web server from 2.2.20-idepci to 2.4.18 - 586tsc. I was able to upgrade and the system boots but reports an error finding the network card. Any suggetions on how to get the new kernel to recognize the NIC? |
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| 00:10.35 | SimonRaven | RoundQube: did you make the daemon reload its conf? |
| 00:10.39 | dondelelcaro | jimr: you probably need to modprobe the proper module; in any case, give us the error so we can see exactly what the porblme is |
| 00:11.07 | jimr | ok, I'll have to reboot it - it'll take a few... |
| 00:11.21 | RoundQube | SimonRaven /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 00:12.41 | SimonRaven | did you uncomment all the php stuff? |
| 00:12.45 | RoundQube | yup |
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| 00:13.42 | SimonRaven | brb |
| 00:14.02 | SJr|Tecra | How can I found out how much Video RAM a card has? |
| 00:14.30 | randomity | SJr|Tecra: possibly glxinfo |
| 00:14.41 | SJr|Tecra | its VERY old |
| 00:14.51 | bucky | SJr|Tecra, read the box it came in or google |
| 00:15.03 | SJr|Tecra | it didn't come out of a box |
| 00:15.08 | SJr|Tecra | it came out of my old system. |
| 00:15.10 | SJr|Tecra | very old |
| 00:15.13 | SJr|Tecra | its a trident card |
| 00:15.14 | quitte | SJr|Tecra: for configuring X? leaving the field empty works most of the timess |
| 00:15.15 | bucky | SJr|Tecra, are you banned from google? |
| 00:15.23 | SimonRaven | doesn't really matter for x, FYI |
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| 00:15.50 | SimonRaven | the server auto-detects just fine for most cases |
| 00:16.00 | Xenguy | bucky: that's a really good Tee :-) |
| 00:16.03 | SJr|Tecra | I'm actually trying to figure out what the highest color / res is. |
| 00:16.03 | ricochet | could someone help me get sendmail with AUTH working? |
| 00:16.04 | nkuttler | SJr|Tecra: try lspci -vvv |
| 00:16.42 | SJr|Tecra | oh wow |
| 00:16.43 | quitte | SJr|Tecra: check the xlog. it prints video mem |
| 00:16.44 | beoba | teapot: c(_)~ |
| 00:16.44 | SJr|Tecra | nkuttler |
| 00:16.48 | SJr|Tecra | it seems to say 4 M |
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| 00:18.19 | nix | ricochet: apt-get install sasl2-bin; sendmailconfig; |
| 00:18.26 | SJr|Tecra | In theroy if I have 4 megs of ram |
| 00:18.30 | SJr|Tecra | I should be able to do |
| 00:18.37 | SJr|Tecra | 1280*1024*16 |
| 00:18.49 | nix | paste sendmailconfig output on http://pastebin.com, but it should already state that sasl support is found and will be incorporated. |
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| 00:19.22 | ricochet | nix, is that flood? |
| 00:19.30 | nix | flood's finetoo |
| 00:19.42 | JRtheGoob | is this a support channel or just a discussion channel? |
| 00:19.51 | nix | both, sometimes |
| 00:20.23 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: /topic |
| 00:20.58 | nix | ricochet: don't forget to edit /etc/default/saslauthd (START=YES) and to start the daemon in /etc/init.d |
| 00:21.10 | konfuzed | eh there, I just used synpatic to isntall flash (closed fire fox first) and then applied it and 7 packages were installed but |
| 00:21.25 | konfuzed | I go back to browser and that page still says I need to Get Flash |
| 00:21.58 | konfuzed | is this doable with synaptic or do I have to do Flash in FireFox manually |
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| 00:22.17 | valdyn | konfuzed: what exactly did you install? |
| 00:22.28 | JRtheGoob | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:22.32 | b14ck | Is there a k3b package/ |
| 00:22.35 | b14ck | I don't see one. |
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| 00:23.45 | bucky | not in etch :( |
| 00:24.39 | nix | ricochet: if ps axuw | grep saslauth returns nothing, you havent started the authentication daemon. |
| 00:26.46 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: is this the first time you try to boot after the install? |
| 00:26.53 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, no |
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| 00:27.16 | JRtheGoob | i had added a couple of things to the menu.lst |
| 00:27.31 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: and what else? |
| 00:27.36 | JRtheGoob | thats all |
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| 00:27.50 | JRtheGoob | im trying to add my windows partition to the bootloader |
| 00:28.00 | abrotman | using grub or lilo ? |
| 00:28.04 | JRtheGoob | i added a couple lines .. i got the example from the grub manual |
| 00:28.20 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: try switching on lba mode in your bios |
| 00:28.28 | abrotman | JRtheGoob: and .. it doesn't work ? |
| 00:28.37 | JRtheGoob | im afraid the hide (hd0, 1) unhide (h1,0) screwed things up |
| 00:28.46 | JRtheGoob | now my linux partition is hidden? |
| 00:29.06 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: hah |
| 00:29.18 | Knorrie | JRtheGoob: i had problems with hide things + windows in the past |
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| 00:29.30 | JRtheGoob | am i screwed |
| 00:29.41 | ricochet | nix, it looks like there are 5 saslauthd -a pam running |
| 00:30.08 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: you get up to grubs menu.. you can unhide from there too |
| 00:30.21 | pablo4545 | what package do i need to use -lssl? |
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| 00:30.40 | darkcmd | I have a question... is it hard to get a theme that looks the same on QT and GNOME |
| 00:30.55 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i dont get that far |
| 00:31.02 | abrotman | darkcmd: no .. ask RH .. they did it with bluecurve |
| 00:31.02 | valdyn | darkcmd: uh, no, geramik / keramik exists on both |
| 00:31.17 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i get an error 17 before the grub menus |
| 00:31.17 | darkcmd | oh ok |
| 00:31.17 | abrotman | pablo4545: libssl or something similar |
| 00:31.30 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: have you tried switching on lba mode in your bios yet? |
| 00:31.41 | quitte | konfuzed: does about:plugins list any plugins? |
| 00:31.59 | randomity | darkcmd: there are pretty cool Plastik clones for GNOME |
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| 00:33.17 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i cant find lba mode in my bios |
| 00:33.18 | darkcmd | I just might scrap QT, and KDE libs all together |
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| 00:34.01 | quitte | ricochet: usually that's ok. since 2.6 threads look like extra processes in ps iirc |
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| 00:36.01 | doublehp | wifi problem: I am Linux client for a Lynksys AP which I can not admin; the AP owner gave me the hexa WEP key; 128b WEP is supported by my MA311; my script does in order: ifconfig down,, iwconfig mode iwconfig key, iwconfig key, ifconfig up; after that, I can see that I am (at last) associated to the AP(iwconfig reports no AP when different ESSID), but I stay so even when I alter the WEP KEY; after that, I can use DHCP nor pin |
| 00:36.04 | pablo4545 | where does debian mount other hds like windows |
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| 00:36.20 | doublehp | pablo4545: /media or /mnt |
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| 00:36.27 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i cant find lba mode in my bios |
| 00:36.33 | darkcmd | would you guys recommend against getting rid of KDE libraries, and QT? |
| 00:36.38 | carl | does anyone here know how to install ati video card drivers |
| 00:36.52 | nix | carl: fglrx? |
| 00:36.57 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: ok, lets hope that that is not the error. boot some knoppix disk and unhide your partitions |
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| 00:37.16 | carl | im kinda new to this and yea didnt know there woudlnt be a installer or .exe like file |
| 00:37.22 | nix | carl: http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
| 00:37.51 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i dont have any boot disks.. heh |
| 00:37.57 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: then get one |
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| 00:38.44 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: debians installer is sufficient to do this |
| 00:38.52 | ricochet | nix: no go |
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| 00:39.31 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, how would i use the debian install to do this? |
| 00:39.39 | nix | ricochet: sorry pal. AUTH works, as you've asked. now all you need to do is config relaying in sendmail, which is sendmail specific, and what works for me doesnt seem to for you. keep digging:) |
| 00:39.42 | carl | nix does it matter if its a ubantu distro? or are they similiar in install |
| 00:40.18 | nix | carl: read the page. |
| 00:40.31 | nix | "I've prepared binary packages for Ubuntu hoary, Ubuntu breezy and Ubuntu dapper. These packages are untested,"..... |
| 00:40.32 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i could just download knoppix.. but if theres a way to use my debian installer that woul dbe a lot easier |
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| 00:40.47 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: insert it, let it run till your disks are detected, ctrl-alt-f1, mount your root disk, chroot /mountpoint, run 'grub', unhide stuff |
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| 00:40.50 | ricochet | nix, to the 5.7.1 error means AUTH is working, and sendmail just isn't letting it relay? |
| 00:41.12 | Knorrie | JRtheGoob: http://www.sysresccd.org/download.en.php |
| 00:41.34 | ricochet | nix, isn't it supposed to just use PAM to authenicate from there, or is it doing that already |
| 00:41.40 | KerPlunk | What is the best filesystem to usee for my external hdd(It's an internal 7200 hitachi 8mb cache)...but I have an external hdd caddy...I just want to dump music and movies on it...and be able to transfer files fast....what file system will be compatible with windows and linux? |
| 00:41.46 | nix | ricochet: that's configured in /etc/default/saslauthd. |
| 00:41.53 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: appearantly hiding just changes the partition ID, you could fix that with fdisk too, but i would confirm that elsewhere. |
| 00:42.39 | nix | ricochet: the thing is, with you having custom-compiled and installed sasl in /usr, there's no way of telling if something else might be breaking it. |
| 00:42.45 | ricochet | nix, ok, and that says PAM is a mechanism. so it is authenticating then |
| 00:43.21 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: uh, it sets the 'hidden bit' but even that might be covered by fdisk. |
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| 00:43.44 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, i have a sata/raid controller and had to install those drivers for windows... i am trying to use grub to boot linux and windows but grub documentations say i have to use 'map' to swap my drivers for windows but if my bios isnt controlling the hds its not going to work. do you have any suggestions how i can use grub to boot windows? |
| 00:44.12 | JRtheGoob | map to swap my drive because windows expects the boot partition to be on the first hd |
| 00:44.17 | JRtheGoob | excuse me |
| 00:44.24 | jelly | ricochet: have you verified (by hand, or by taking a look at SMTP handshake) that you are getting authorized correctly? |
| 00:45.02 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: what grub sais is probably only true for old windows versions |
| 00:45.06 | ricochet | jelly, umm, no? I think it is going through TLS, so I was just using my MUA to do that |
| 00:45.11 | JRtheGoob | so swap should work? |
| 00:45.32 | JRtheGoob | oh you mean about booting from the first hd... hmm it doesnt seem work so i assumed that was the problem |
| 00:45.32 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: you dont need any of this as long as windows is still on the same spot you installed it on |
| 00:45.51 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, well i moved windows to the second hard drive |
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| 00:45.58 | JRtheGoob | that may also be where the problem lies |
| 00:45.58 | jelly | ricochet: My /etc/sasldb2 had to be chowned/chmoded at some point to get this to work, but I'm not sure why. |
| 00:46.01 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: but if its on hdb now while it was on hda.. then you might have to use swap |
| 00:46.15 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: reinstall windows |
| 00:46.35 | ricochet | jelly, i just want it to work with PAM |
| 00:47.10 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, ok let me first unhide this part |
| 00:47.19 | jelly | ricochet: me too. ;-) |
| 00:47.33 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, then see if swap works though the documentation says it wont because i have the nvidia sata/raid drivers |
| 00:47.43 | ricochet | jelly: why do you need sasldb2 then? |
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| 00:48.56 | jelly | ricochet: I don't have a clue, this is what our sendmail guy did to get it to work. |
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| 00:50.28 | JRtheGoob | does sarge3.1 installer create ext2 or ext3 filesystems? |
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| 00:50.42 | abrotman | you pick |
| 00:50.51 | blondie | "yes" |
| 00:51.03 | JRtheGoob | i dont remember picking |
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| 00:51.17 | dondelelcaro | if you do it totally automated, it'll do ext3. |
| 00:51.23 | jelly | ricochet: I seem to recall something about the migration from cleartext to CRAM/MD5. |
| 00:51.34 | carl | hey guys i downloaded the ati proptierary driver so it will install but, I dont know how to make it execute |
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| 00:51.45 | abrotman | !ati |
| 00:51.45 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
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| 00:52.52 | roadfish | how mount external USB harddrive? this gave "no medium found": |
| 00:52.52 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:54.03 | war92 | Is there a release schedule for Etch, ie; when will Firefox 1.5 be in Etch? |
| 00:54.12 | abrotman | roadfish: are you sure it's uba1 ? |
| 00:54.14 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 00:54.15 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/10/msg00004.html |
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| 00:54.35 | dondelelcaro | !tell war92 -about why is firefox not in testing |
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| 00:54.59 | DaFonz | hey guys, how do I read documents in .gz format? |
| 00:55.07 | abrotman | zless |
| 00:55.15 | DaFonz | thanks |
| 00:55.21 | roadfish | abrotman: no clue. I tried ubb1 and got same thing. ubc1 and ubd1 say "not a valid block device" ... I do have a memory card reader as well. |
| 00:55.37 | Goink | I am having timing problems on a dual core amd64. Does anybody know how i can fix it? |
| 00:55.50 | abrotman | roadfish: dmesg might tell you where it is |
| 00:55.53 | poop | Goink: new kernel? |
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| 00:56.14 | Goink | poop, I am on 2.6.12 |
| 00:56.37 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, what device am i trying to mount.. hda isnt not there |
| 00:56.47 | JRtheGoob | i let it detect my hds |
| 00:56.51 | roadfish | abrotman: ok, dmesg is giving me this: |
| 00:56.51 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:56.51 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:57.00 | abrotman | well that's no fun |
| 00:57.00 | roadfish | any idea what that might mean? |
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| 00:57.35 | carl | wonder what happend to .exe files... |
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| 00:58.09 | odla | carl: windows? |
| 00:58.32 | carl | no its just i thought that linux would be much easier than windows..atleast to install things |
| 00:58.46 | abrotman | carl: what do yo mean? |
| 00:58.50 | odla | carl: .deb packages |
| 00:59.12 | carl | well i d/l |
| 00:59.22 | carl | ati drivers and thought i would just have to click on a exe file but, |
| 00:59.29 | carl | the guide is like 3 pages of console stuff |
| 00:59.31 | abrotman | !ati debs |
| 00:59.32 | carl | or err terminal commands |
| 00:59.32 | dpkg | [ati debs] http://xoomer.virgilio.it/flavio.stanchina/debian/fglrx-installer.html |
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| 01:00.36 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: the installer uses devfs , try google, try searching around in /dev/ |
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| 01:00.57 | valdyn | JRtheGoob: /dev/disks/and/some/more ( yea it sucks ) |
| 01:01.30 | JRtheGoob | ive got bigger problems i think.. the installer froze while 'scanning disks' under 'starting up the partitioner' |
| 01:01.55 | roadfish | abrotman: ok, when I turn on and off the USB harddrive, |
| 01:01.55 | roadfish | I get stuff like this: |
| 01:01.56 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:02.16 | roadfish | I guess I'll try installing as IDE and see what happens. Maybe this harddrive got corrupted. |
| 01:02.27 | abrotman | or maybe the controller isn't up to spec ? |
| 01:02.43 | abrotman | or pehraps you need a newer kernel |
| 01:03.07 | liable | grrr, streamripper fuxors a lot of stuff.. :( |
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| 01:03.36 | JRtheGoob | valdyn, ok now even though im root it says: can't find /dev/ide/host2... in /etc/fstab |
| 01:03.45 | roadfish | liable: what is streamripper? |
| 01:04.07 | liable | roadfish: it, um, rips, streams?? :P |
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| 01:04.49 | liable | JRtheGoob: if its hda, try /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part<part no> |
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| 01:05.08 | JRtheGoob | liable, ya but it says cant find it in fstab |
| 01:05.10 | MCheevy | heya ppls |
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| 01:06.00 | liable | JRtheGoob: err, are you trying to mount from the install disc? |
| 01:06.08 | JRtheGoob | liable, ya |
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| 01:06.18 | JRtheGoob | liable, ok heh i forgot to put a mount point |
| 01:06.18 | toker | i cant apt-get kde, i get a broken package error, any help? |
| 01:06.39 | JRtheGoob | liable, but i think something is f'ed with that partition because when i did mount it that terminal freezes |
| 01:06.43 | liable | JRtheGoob: mkdir /mnt/foo; mount /mnt/foo /dev/ide/host0.... |
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| 01:06.59 | endrazine | gentoo rox |
| 01:07.01 | MCheevy | Having a little trouble with initrd created /dev/mapper files making it past the udev startup... is there a way to edit the /etc/init.d/udev file so that it temporarily copies the /dev/mapper files and then restores them after udev has done it's takeover of /dev? |
| 01:07.06 | Gnea | endrazine: stop. |
| 01:07.14 | endrazine | haha |
| 01:07.16 | toker | i cant apt-get kde, i get a broken package error, any help? |
| 01:07.28 | ricochet | nix: I am sitll getting "AUTH warning: no mechanisms" |
| 01:07.36 | Gnea | !ask |
| 01:07.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 01:07.50 | JRtheGoob | mount -t ext2 /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0/par1 /mnt <--- freezes the installer |
| 01:08.11 | MCheevy | Gnea: who was the !ask for |
| 01:08.14 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: mkdir /mnt/dir and mount to /mnt/dir |
| 01:08.21 | liable | JRtheGoob: dont mount it on /mnt, make a dir |
| 01:08.26 | JRtheGoob | i did mkdir /mnt |
| 01:08.28 | Gnea | MCheevy: anyone who is literate |
| 01:08.30 | JRtheGoob | shouldnt hta tbe good enough |
| 01:08.41 | cheal | toker: which release? |
| 01:08.48 | toker | 3.1 |
| 01:09.01 | MCheevy | Gnea: thought you were doing it to someone in particular... 3 of asked a question shortly before you did that... |
| 01:09.15 | cheal | toker: paste the error somewhere |
| 01:09.28 | toker | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 01:09.28 | toker | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.28 | toker | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:09.28 | toker | E: Broken packages |
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| 01:09.32 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: well /mnt is usually regarded as / for mountpoints - did you e2fsck it first? |
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| 01:09.41 | Gnea | !tell toker about paste |
| 01:09.48 | abrotman | toker: that's testing for you |
| 01:09.56 | xzczxc | hi! i'm a young italian user and don't speak english very well....but i have a problem with a debian machine and i dont want reinstal all operative system (i want want understand my error) can you help me? |
| 01:10.01 | abrotman | toker: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 01:10.02 | JRtheGoob | Gnea, no im doing it off hte installer cd |
| 01:10.04 | cheal | toker: somewhere excludes here for pastes over 2 lines |
| 01:10.05 | Gnea | !it |
| 01:10.05 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 01:10.06 | abrotman | !it |
| 01:10.28 | xzczxc | thnak you very much! |
| 01:10.30 | cheal | toker: what does $ cat /etc/debian_version; return? |
| 01:10.32 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: heh, what's that got to do with anything? e2fsck isn't on the install cd? |
| 01:10.35 | MCheevy | prego |
| 01:10.38 | abrotman | toker: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
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| 01:10.44 | sobersabre | hi. |
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| 01:10.49 | toker | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:10.56 | JRtheGoob | Gnea, whats te difference between e2fsck and just fsck |
| 01:11.01 | sobersabre | hm... what's this thing with 'no soft patents' guys ? |
| 01:11.04 | abrotman | toker: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 01:11.08 | toker | cheal, 3.1 |
| 01:11.09 | MCheevy | Having a little trouble with initrd created /dev/mapper files making it past the udev startup... is there a way to edit the /etc/init.d/udev file so that it temporarily copies the /dev/mapper files and then restores them after udev has done it's takeover of /dev? |
| 01:11.15 | odla | !info superkaramba etch |
| 01:11.31 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: not much, e2fsck adds a bit more functionality for ext2/3 partitions, specifically.. it's just good common sense to use it before mounting an unknown partition |
| 01:11.41 | cheal | toker: then what does $ apt-cache policy kde-amusements; output? |
| 01:11.53 | abrotman | me first! |
| 01:12.02 | Gnea | abrotman: your mom |
| 01:12.10 | abrotman | Gnea: you can have her! |
| 01:12.13 | Gnea | hahaha |
| 01:12.34 | MCheevy | oedipus ain't got nothing on him |
| 01:12.54 | toker | cheal, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1264 |
| 01:13.08 | SimonRaven | dpkg: wake up |
| 01:13.08 | dpkg | simonraven: I'm already awake! :) |
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| 01:13.29 | Gnea | crunchy peanut butter. |
| 01:13.57 | cheal | toker: if you run sarge, you have some wrong sources. your kde-amusements candidate is testing's |
| 01:13.57 | odla | applications:/Office/evolution-2.0.desktop |
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| 01:14.06 | odla | whoops |
| 01:14.12 | toker | cheal, so what do i need to change |
| 01:14.13 | toker | ? |
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| 01:14.22 | jimbo____ | cracklin` good common sense.... |
| 01:14.27 | jimbo____ | lmao |
| 01:14.30 | cheal | toker: answering abrotman's question could help us |
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| 01:14.36 | jimbo____ | wut a fukin nerd |
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| 01:15.13 | toker | ii libc6 2.3.5-8 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data |
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| 01:15.30 | cheal | toker: can I see your sources.list ? |
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| 01:16.13 | abrotman | cheal: that's not sarge |
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| 01:16.23 | abrotman | !info libc6 etch |
| 01:16.26 | dpkg | libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section libs, is required. Version: 2.3.5-8 (etch), Packaged size: 4937 kB, Installed size: 16752 kB |
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| 01:16.34 | abrotman | which explains why kde(metapackage) won't install |
| 01:16.37 | cheal | abrotman: it's obviously a pretty tainted sarge if it is |
| 01:16.38 | Gnea | without nerds there would be no cellphones. bow down and kiss some ass. too bad he left. |
| 01:16.47 | cal | heya guys. everytime i run "dpkg-buildpackage", it fails and says "dpkg-buildpackage: unable to determine source package". I've googled and i can't figure out why. what am i doing wrong? |
| 01:16.56 | abrotman | cheal: it's not "pretty tainted" .. it's just not sarge :) |
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| 01:17.00 | toker | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:17.26 | cheal | toker: sheesh. you have unstable and testing sources |
| 01:17.26 | abrotman | see that "testing" line ? |
| 01:17.29 | abrotman | cheal: no |
| 01:17.43 | abrotman | he has unstable for bootsplash |
| 01:17.43 | cheal | abrotman: no unstable sources? |
| 01:17.45 | JRtheGoob | does e2fsck report back to you as it is checking the fs or does it just hang |
| 01:17.46 | toker | k, so should i just change that to stable? |
| 01:17.54 | JRtheGoob | until completion |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | toker: too late |
| 01:18.01 | liable | no, you lose :P |
| 01:18.09 | toker | um. |
| 01:18.13 | cal | toker: that is v unlikely to work |
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| 01:18.20 | Gnea | toker: the damage is done. |
| 01:18.29 | abrotman | toker: enjoy etch! |
| 01:18.30 | toker | do i have any options? |
| 01:18.31 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 01:18.33 | dpkg | install kde is probably In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 01:18.44 | JRtheGoob | i just ran e2fsck -f /dev/ide/host2/bus0/tartget0/lun0/part1 .. it says e2fsck 1.37 (21-Mar-2005) and then nothing after that |
| 01:18.45 | Gnea | toker: yeah, go unstable or reformat/reinstall stable |
| 01:18.50 | cheal | toker: you seem to be running much of testing, perhaps you have some of sarge left. why do you have a testing source? |
| 01:19.04 | toker | not exactly sure |
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| 01:19.39 | abrotman | i blame the eagles! |
| 01:19.47 | Gnea | cheal: dude, his system is wh0red, that much is blatantly obvious - he's not going to be able to fix it like that |
| 01:19.55 | toker | should i change something now to prevent further damage? |
| 01:19.59 | JRtheGoob | ok its doing stuff :) |
| 01:20.00 | abrotman | cheal: downgrade not possible |
| 01:20.07 | cal | toker: the best option is to make backups and then try to change the sources. be ready to reinstall your Os, though, because downgrades like this rarely work |
| 01:20.07 | abrotman | cheal: he already has the libc6 from etch |
| 01:20.12 | JRtheGoob | after mount should i end it with & |
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| 01:20.19 | cheal | toker: that file doesn't modify itself. you want to upgrade to testing or reinstall sarge. whatever you do, pay attention before modifying that file next time |
| 01:20.30 | Gnea | toker: have you run apt-get upgrade or dist-upgrade at all? |
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| 01:20.51 | cal | toker: paste "apt-get dist-upgrade -s" please |
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| 01:20.56 | toker | i think i did once a while ago |
| 01:21.07 | Gnea | before or after adding the testing line? |
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| 01:21.18 | cheal | toker: if you don't reinstall you're stuck with testing's KDE issues |
| 01:21.37 | Gnea | cheal: hold on ... |
| 01:21.52 | cheal | Gnea: well... |
| 01:21.57 | bucky | what's the drop in replacement KDE ? |
| 01:22.05 | cheal | toker: try installing apt-show-versions |
| 01:22.16 | Guerin | bucky: gnome |
| 01:22.30 | Gnea | toker: it's very simple: you either ran it or you didn't run it after you added the testing line |
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| 01:22.42 | Guerin | bucky: which comes with all the attendant bloat and most of the dependency problems |
| 01:22.43 | toker | cheal, theres a bit much to paste |
| 01:22.45 | Gnea | toker: if you ran it prior to adding the line, you might be alright |
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| 01:23.18 | cheal | toker: about what? apt-show-versions's output? you can grep it for testing |
| 01:23.19 | toker | Gnea, should i change something then? |
| 01:23.23 | abrotman | !tell mike-e about away |
| 01:23.44 | Gnea | toker: i'm just asking if you can remember when you ran the upgrade |
| 01:23.53 | odla | abrotman: when are they going to make you an op? |
| 01:24.06 | abrotman | he already has etch's libc6 |
| 01:24.08 | Ronin | maybe he is but in secret |
| 01:24.08 | toker | Gnea, dont think so |
| 01:24.26 | abrotman | odla: not up to me |
| 01:24.39 | toker | cheal, its all testing i think |
| 01:24.56 | odla | !moo |
| 01:24.57 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 01:25.01 | cheal | toker: paste the output anyway, it doesn't cost much |
| 01:25.01 | Gnea | toker: ok, then you're better off just reinstalling from scratch and dealing with stable - if you're really up to it, you COULD upgrade to sid/unstable from where you're at now - that's a much more random set of problems, though |
| 01:25.34 | toker | cheal, but i cant copy all the text at once, i would need to do it about 10 times |
| 01:25.39 | Gnea | toker: you'd likely have a working kde that way, along with a lot of other up-to-date packages. they just might have some bugs associated with them sometimes |
| 01:25.50 | cheal | Gnea: abrotman said his unstable source was limited enough that he should probably just upgrade to testing |
| 01:26.09 | darkcmd | there is a package called cowsay |
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| 01:26.44 | Gnea | cheal: well it's up to him really, he can go unstable or he can remain in testing and report bugs and maybe they'll get fixed faster |
| 01:26.46 | toker | i dont need kde anyway, i was just trying to get k3b to work |
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| 01:26.57 | Gnea | lol |
| 01:26.57 | JRtheGoob | man how long does e2fsck take.... |
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| 01:27.03 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: till it's done |
| 01:27.14 | cheal | toker: k3b is absent from testing for still some time |
| 01:27.20 | Smerdyakov | What's the best way to obtain a network interface's IP address, netmask, and gateway in a shell script? |
| 01:27.22 | toker | yea, i noticed |
| 01:27.22 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: depends on the size of the hd/partition |
| 01:27.35 | JRtheGoob | ive got a 10,000 rpm sata 80gig hd... |
| 01:27.46 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: it might take awhile |
| 01:27.52 | predius_ | Smerdyakov: ifconfig? |
| 01:27.58 | cheal | toker: what does $ apt-show-versions|grep base-config; output? |
| 01:28.14 | JRtheGoob | Gnea, so if it completely passes why would mount be freezing |
| 01:28.24 | Smerdyakov | predius_, that involves onerous parsing tasks, and I don't see anything marked "gateway" in the output. |
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| 01:28.38 | JRtheGoob | gnea, could it because i did mkdir /mnt and just had the mountpoint set to /mnt and not something in mnt |
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| 01:28.49 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: maybe it's just taking awhile - what kernel are you booted into? |
| 01:28.55 | abrotman | damn it . he's running testing/etch |
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| 01:29.24 | darkcmd | hey guys, should I get rid of QT, and the kde libraries |
| 01:29.28 | darkcmd | or keep them just in case |
| 01:29.37 | Gnea | darkcmd: for what? |
| 01:29.51 | odla | darkcmd: only if you don't want kde |
| 01:29.52 | darkcmd | just in case there are some qt apps I need to run |
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| 01:30.04 | Gnea | darkcmd: apt will install what it needs at the time |
| 01:30.06 | darkcmd | I don't want KDE, but what about a possible QT app here and there |
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| 01:30.14 | JRtheGoob | Gnea, im not sure whatever the installer uses?? |
| 01:30.28 | JRtheGoob | i cant uname because im fscking |
| 01:30.39 | cheal | darkcmd: non-KDE Qt apps are rare |
| 01:30.44 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: well you've obviously discovered alt-f2, what does cat /proc/version report? |
| 01:30.45 | Guerin | darkcmd: you need to answer this question for yourself |
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| 01:30.56 | JRtheGoob | Gnea, i only have one console |
| 01:30.58 | Guerin | darkcmd: this is not a counselling service |
| 01:31.02 | cheal | darkcmd: you should have an idea how often you use KDE apps |
| 01:31.03 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: no you don't. |
| 01:31.13 | darkcmd | never really |
| 01:31.14 | JRtheGoob | gnea, ya alt-f1 is the installer |
| 01:31.21 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: alt-f2, alt-f3, alt-f4 |
| 01:31.23 | Gnea | try them |
| 01:31.34 | cheal | darkcmd: so, why ask us? do what you want |
| 01:31.34 | darkcmd | i think opera is qt though |
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| 01:31.44 | abrotman | darkcmd: use the static opera .. that's what i do |
| 01:31.44 | JRtheGoob | gnea, theyre full of crap |
| 01:31.55 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: take them for a walk |
| 01:31.57 | Gnea | j/k :) |
| 01:32.02 | darkcmd | ok |
| 01:32.05 | JRtheGoob | gnea, alt-f2 is my only console.... |
| 01:32.05 | darkcmd | good idea |
| 01:32.08 | Guerin | or just use a browser that's not opera |
| 01:32.13 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: right - that's how it is |
| 01:32.24 | Gnea | JRtheGoob: are you using that to fsck then? |
| 01:32.30 | JRtheGoob | yes |
| 01:32.35 | JRtheGoob | so i guess ill just have to wait |
| 01:32.39 | Gnea | yup |
| 01:32.56 | Gnea | if the fsck is still going then that's probably a good thing - just hope you don't get any hardware errors |
| 01:33.05 | cheal | shrug, by default opera.com suggest a xandros package |
| 01:33.07 | JRtheGoob | i doubt i will... its a new drive |
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| 01:33.22 | Gnea | what brand? |
| 01:33.24 | JRtheGoob | gnea, mounting is usually instantaneous |
| 01:33.28 | JRtheGoob | western digital |
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| 01:33.35 | Gnea | ah ok, decent drive |
| 01:33.43 | Gnea | as long as it's not a maxtor |
| 01:33.45 | JRtheGoob | ya it was pretty expensive.. like $150 for 80gigs |
| 01:33.49 | Gnea | then we'd have words :) |
| 01:33.58 | Gnea | but at 10k rpms |
| 01:34.00 | Gnea | that's cheap |
| 01:34.05 | JRtheGoob | you know it |
| 01:34.09 | Gnea | ;) |
| 01:34.19 | abrotman | maxtor rules! |
| 01:34.30 | Gnea | ...at sucking |
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| 01:34.55 | JRtheGoob | it makes such a difference to have a super fast hd |
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| 01:35.14 | abrotman | Gnea: at least they aren't micropolis! |
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| 01:35.28 | Gnea | for i in `ip a | grep inet\ | awk '{print $2}'`; do j=`echo $i`; sipcalc "$j"; done |
| 01:35.29 | Gnea | heh |
| 01:35.30 | loopdee | yes, ati drivers 8.20.08 work great so far... |
| 01:37.08 | KerPlunk | What is the best filesystem to usee for my external hdd(It's an internal 7200 hitachi 8mb cache)...but I have an external hdd caddy...I just want to dump music and movies on it...and be able to transfer files fast....what file system will be compatible with windows and linux? |
| 01:37.28 | JRtheGoob | ok ill be back when this is done |
| 01:37.31 | JRtheGoob | stupid fsck |
| 01:37.49 | sussudio | KerPlunk: what do you think? |
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| 01:38.36 | KerPlunk | sussudio: well fat32 is a horrible fs...so I was hoping someone could tell me a way to use ext3 on windows or something. |
| 01:38.52 | Guerin | KerPlunk: it's not trivial |
| 01:39.25 | Guerin | KerPlunk: you have to use proprietary 3rd-party windows utils, and i have it on good advice they're unreliable |
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| 01:41.55 | amd_goon | My network card required irqpoll parameter to work. Anyone know how to troubleshoot this so that I don't need irqpoll? |
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| 01:43.50 | abrotman | it requires it . and you want to make it work without it ? |
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| 01:44.22 | simpletron | hi |
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| 01:44.45 | amd_goon | yes, the irq not always assigned to lan0 if I don't use it |
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| 01:45.39 | amd_goon | but (and this is where I pretend I know what I'm talking about) I think that boot paramter is giving me problems with hdc |
| 01:46.28 | amd_goon | I get ' the drive appears confused' messages is dmesg and cdrecord is not too happy |
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| 01:49.21 | amd_goon | From what I've read, that kernel parameter is for use with 'systems with badly broken firmware' Looks like something from Alan Cox. Maybe a BIOS flash would be the proper thing |
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| 01:53.26 | delta___ | Say, how on earth can I test if my ident daemon works correctly? I can't seem to find a program for that... |
| 01:53.49 | blondie | telnet |
| 01:54.52 | delta___ | Ah, certainly. Silly me... |
| 01:55.00 | delta___ | thanks |
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| 01:56.14 | snowgeese | any one run amd chipset |
| 01:57.54 | bucky | delta___, looks like you're running nullidentd - it has your user name a foobar which is the default for nullidentd |
| 01:58.46 | amd_goon | snowgeese: yes |
| 01:58.47 | delta___ | bucky: lol, you're right. Too lazy to set it up for NAT. But I was testing a new identd on another computer. Works just fine with telnet :-) |
| 01:58.59 | snowgeese | do you ahve to add special comand? |
| 01:59.44 | amd_goon | snowgeese: for the kernel? |
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| 02:00.22 | snowgeese | yeah |
| 02:00.52 | H4ppy` | i logged on to my debian server (its been down for a long time) and when i choose what i wanted to boot on the boot screen it gave me an error "do a root boot" how do i do that? |
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| 02:03.02 | amd_goon | no nothing special for what I've set up. |
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| 02:04.01 | BullWeivel | in debian...i have a user who i want to start a script once the machine boots up.... i want it to be the LAST thing that happens when the box boots.... where is the best place to put it ??? |
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| 02:04.35 | abrotman | BullWeivel: /etc/init.d/README |
| 02:05.12 | snowgeese | o google it says u have add comand cause i now use a amd not intell |
| 02:06.00 | delta___ | snowgeese: Worked just fine on my AMD boxes without any parameter |
| 02:06.13 | snowgeese | cool i scrap comand then |
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| 02:06.31 | Guerin | H4ppy`: i've never heard of such a thing, and I suspect you didn't give us the actual error, but /msg dpkg ifrp |
| 02:06.40 | amd_goon | snowgeese: what command were you giving the kernel? |
| 02:06.44 | doublehp | wifi problem: I am Linux client for a Lynksys AP which I can not admin; the AP owner gave me the hexa WEP key; 128b WEP is supported by my MA311; my script does in order: ifconfig down,, iwconfig mode iwconfig key, iwconfig key, ifconfig up; after that, I can see that I am (at last) associated to the AP(iwconfig reports no AP when different ESSID), but I stay so even when I alter the WEP KEY; after that, I can use DHCP nor pin |
| 02:07.03 | dippo | I have an odd issue: i have a tarball, and when I untar it, symbolic links that point at absolute paths are getting flattened into 0-byte files |
| 02:07.06 | dippo | any idea |
| 02:07.07 | dippo | ? |
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| 02:07.27 | snowgeese | cause ill run 1800 xp chip |
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| 02:08.07 | amd_goon | snowgeese: if just using an amd cpu, no problems at all |
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| 02:08.51 | snowgeese | i useing a 512/550 intell1 pci 64 |
| 02:09.06 | snowgeese | need ing agp 64 card for new box |
| 02:09.07 | amd_goon | snowgeese: thought you meant 81118131/8151 amd bridge chipsets |
| 02:09.09 | steven_Laptop | ? what do I use to burn a movie on my harddrive so I can burn it later? |
| 02:09.26 | snowgeese | 1.4 gig amd |
| 02:09.36 | aeacides | is there some program I am supposed to run to edit /etc/ssh/sshd_config? or can I just edit it manually? |
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| 02:10.44 | snowgeese | does any one have a old 64 agp video for sale |
| 02:10.56 | amd_goon | aeacides: no just edit it manually |
| 02:11.20 | amd_goon | aeacides: same with ssh_config |
| 02:11.28 | aeacides | amd_goon: thanks |
| 02:11.53 | Golito | steven_Laptop, use " mkiso" (??) |
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| 02:12.39 | steven_Laptop | Golito, to copy a dvd movie? |
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| 02:13.11 | Golito | steven_Laptop, is that what you want to do ? |
| 02:14.16 | steven_Laptop | Golito, im trying to burn a movie to my harddrive then I will burn it to a DVD when I get home |
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| 02:15.25 | abrotman | steven_Laptop: so you want us to help you pirate copyrighted material ? |
| 02:15.48 | steven_Laptop | I didnt say that you did.... |
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| 02:15.57 | abrotman | but you're asking the channel to do that |
| 02:16.05 | Gnea | i sense a disturbance in the force |
| 02:16.11 | abrotman | Gnea: you farted ? |
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| 02:16.17 | EleckttrusS-USA | alguna persona sabe de un juego de domino para linux? |
| 02:16.21 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah, too many beans, sorry |
| 02:16.23 | DaFonz | Hi, I am needing to set up a firewall based on iptables. I used to use "shorewall" to easily configure the firewall. I saw someone else use a graphical windows application to generate iptable rules (Firewall builder or something).. shorewall seems the easiest option.. anyone got different suggestions? |
| 02:16.24 | steven_Laptop | no Im not pirating a movie... |
| 02:16.27 | abrotman | !es |
| 02:16.27 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 02:16.39 | abrotman | steven_Laptop: so why don't you just take your movie home and watch it |
| 02:16.51 | Gnea | abrotman: did you see the video of that guy riding a bicycle backwards? |
| 02:16.53 | VolVE | hi all, any chance I could find-out what's changed between the version of a deb I have installed and the latest one apt is wanting to upgrade to? :-/ |
| 02:16.53 | EleckttrusS-USA | dpkg: i need domino game for linux |
| 02:17.04 | abrotman | EleckttrusS-USA: espanol ? |
| 02:17.24 | EleckttrusS-USA | abrotman: in inlges o espanol |
| 02:17.25 | abrotman | VolVE: apt-listbugs ? |
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| 02:17.44 | Phated | apt-listchanges too. |
| 02:17.46 | abrotman | EleckttrusS-USA: espanol .. va a #debian-es .. english .. stay here |
| 02:17.50 | steven_Laptop | I make a bvack up copy for my self so I dont fuck up the orginmel |
| 02:18.02 | VolVE | abrotman & Phated: I don't seem to have those... :-/ |
| 02:18.03 | abrotman | Gnea: no i didn't |
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| 02:18.11 | delta___ | DaFonz: Do it by hand. It's really simple once you understand iptables and you'll have exactly the setup *you* need |
| 02:18.17 | Gnea | abrotman: it was awesome... i'm still looking for the url |
| 02:18.31 | snowgeese | so whats up any one from mb can ? |
| 02:18.34 | EleckttrusS-USA | abrotman: i need domino game of linux please |
| 02:18.41 | snowgeese | nice there no snow here yet |
| 02:18.41 | steven_Laptop | I have no problems in windows but im trying to get away from it and move 100% to linux |
| 02:18.45 | DaFonz | delta: I do understand it, but it's still cumbersome and error prone.. shorewall is definitely easier. |
| 02:18.46 | abrotman | EleckttrusS-USA: i have no idea what that is |
| 02:18.49 | H4ppy` | the error i get "Kernel panic: VFS_ unable to mount root fs on 03:02" anyone know what to do? |
| 02:18.54 | Phated | VolVE: Generally, you -install- them, then. |
| 02:18.55 | abrotman | EleckttrusS-USA: you mean you want to play dominoes ? |
| 02:19.02 | steven_Laptop | ok then I will just google it |
| 02:19.19 | VolVE | Phated: oh, sorry, didn't realise they weren't part of apt in general |
| 02:19.56 | EleckttrusS-USA | abrotman: yes i need gomino play for my granfather |
| 02:20.03 | VolVE | thanks :) |
| 02:20.03 | thingfish | we already had our snow, snowgeese. |
| 02:20.09 | thingfish | now it's melting some. |
| 02:20.25 | H4ppy` | and above the tline it says "Please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 02:21.02 | EleckttrusS-USA | abrotman: yes because no online in my pc |
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| 02:21.08 | abrotman | EleckttrusS-USA: happypenguin.org .. i don't see any in apt |
| 02:21.23 | EleckttrusS-USA | abrotman: Thack you man |
| 02:21.54 | Gnea | H4ppy`: sounds like the kernel isn't detecting your drive right |
| 02:22.09 | H4ppy` | hmm, how do i fix that? |
| 02:22.17 | H4ppy` | the motherboard has changed since last time |
| 02:22.19 | amd_goon | snowgeese, thingfish: !weather brandon canada |
| 02:22.24 | H4ppy` | and there is some more ram |
| 02:22.40 | Gnea | H4ppy`: depends where you put the new drive |
| 02:22.58 | thingfish | amd_goon: sorry, you lose. :) |
| 02:23.01 | H4ppy` | there is only one harddrive, and its master (the debian one) |
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| 02:23.11 | EleckttrusS-USA | i am new in USA i like friend linux |
| 02:24.05 | amd_goon | winnipeg? |
| 02:24.10 | thingfish | I am in the middle of the USA - Kansas City, Missouri. It was 8F yesterday, now it's 41F. |
| 02:24.20 | abrotman | bastard! |
| 02:24.23 | snowgeese | i am near dauphin |
| 02:24.42 | amd_goon | brandon here |
| 02:24.53 | thingfish | I wanna be canadian and live in a sophisticated country. |
| 02:25.01 | doublehp | how to know if (ROX/)Volume had been installed using AddApp or 0install ? |
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| 02:26.04 | amd_goon | thingfish: lol, yeah that's us, you can help us scrap with Denmark over a barren island |
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| 02:26.28 | thingfish | amd_goon: I'm always in for a good scrap. |
| 02:26.47 | thingfish | I'll bring nuclear arms. |
| 02:26.52 | H4ppy` | how can i make tdebian accept the new hardware when i cant log in? |
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| 02:27.38 | amd_goon | thngfish: you won't need those: just bring some shinpads and a hockey stick. |
| 02:27.58 | Gnea | H4ppy`: well what changed during the hardware switch? |
| 02:28.05 | Gnea | H4ppy`: as far as the hd is concerned... |
| 02:28.07 | thingfish | amd_goon: now hockey is something I'll have to learn. |
| 02:28.12 | H4ppy` | i got the error massage... |
| 02:28.14 | H4ppy` | nothing else |
| 02:28.25 | Gnea | you said you added more ram and all that |
| 02:28.26 | H4ppy` | everything seems to be running as it used to |
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| 02:28.32 | H4ppy` | ram and a new motherboard |
| 02:28.33 | thingfish | although it appeals to me because it's not all stop and go like american football. |
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| 02:28.51 | Gnea | okay, are you SURE it's an /dev/hda? |
| 02:29.02 | H4ppy` | yes |
| 02:29.11 | snowgeese | brando is cool |
| 02:29.12 | amd_goon | thingfish: it has the potential to be the best game on tv: 20 minutes of clock time is really 20 minutes of play. |
| 02:29.14 | H4ppy` | at least they said it was |
| 02:29.26 | Gnea | and what is grub/lilo set to? |
| 02:29.32 | magik | Hello people GNU/Debian |
| 02:29.41 | H4ppy` | how do i check that ? |
| 02:29.48 | Phated | Don't hard drives usually... have partitions and stuff? Like... /dev/hda1? |
| 02:29.55 | Gnea | when it boots upe |
| 02:30.04 | abrotman | Gnea: where's my movie ? |
| 02:30.05 | Gnea | Phated: 99.9999% of the time |
| 02:30.10 | Gnea | abrotman: i'm still searching |
| 02:30.11 | Phated | Gnea: Eh, fair enough. |
| 02:30.18 | magik | Do you help my?! |
| 02:30.23 | magik | Please |
| 02:30.23 | thingfish | amd_goon: we don't see it too much here in the midwest states, but it's been around for awhile, and any time I've seen it, I've enjoyed it. |
| 02:30.29 | Gnea | !tell magik about ask |
| 02:30.43 | thingfish | I mean, they don't even show soccer here on tv. |
| 02:30.50 | thingfish | just baseball and football. |
| 02:30.54 | thingfish | and golf. |
| 02:31.05 | magik | network not cable |
| 02:31.13 | thingfish | and basketball too of course. |
| 02:31.13 | magik | in debain linksys |
| 02:31.22 | magik | I can't found driver |
| 02:31.31 | amd_goon | thingfish: I hear ya. |
| 02:31.56 | magik | gnea...? |
| 02:32.00 | magik | Gnea |
| 02:32.08 | Gnea | yes? |
| 02:32.17 | magik | Can you help my? |
| 02:32.22 | abrotman | thingfish: yes they do |
| 02:32.26 | Gnea | can i help your what? |
| 02:32.36 | thingfish | abrotman: yes they do what? |
| 02:32.41 | abrotman | thingfish: show soccer |
| 02:32.53 | abrotman | magik: how about one coherent request for help |
| 02:32.58 | Gnea | magik: please follow channel protocol. |
| 02:33.04 | thingfish | oh. well maybe where you're from, but they don't show it too much here. |
| 02:33.07 | magik | and? |
| 02:33.08 | Gnea | !tell magik about ask |
| 02:33.19 | thingfish | except on cable, I suppose. |
| 02:33.29 | abrotman | oh .. yeah |
| 02:33.32 | magik | you can;t understand ask. Yes? |
| 02:33.33 | abrotman | and at 3am :) |
| 02:33.35 | thingfish | but then who knows what you'll see on cable. |
| 02:33.35 | Gnea | !tell magik about rules |
| 02:33.43 | abrotman | !pl |
| 02:33.43 | dpkg | [pl] sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 02:33.55 | Gnea | magik: #debian.pl |
| 02:34.16 | magik | you know. I'm not british man |
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| 02:34.28 | magik | debian.pl is emtpy :( |
| 02:34.30 | Gnea | what? |
| 02:35.09 | magik | sou |
| 02:35.13 | Gnea | magik: well you're going to need to ask a full sentence, articulated question, in english, not just small little spatterings. |
| 02:35.57 | magik | I have links router. I want connect my comppyter not cable to this router |
| 02:36.11 | Gnea | links? not linksys? |
| 02:36.13 | magik | i must have connect dhcp? |
| 02:36.27 | magik | ok :) |
| 02:36.40 | findme | not cable = wireless |
| 02:36.41 | magik | How? |
| 02:36.45 | magik | ye |
| 02:36.46 | magik | s |
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| 02:37.02 | magik | You know any driver |
| 02:37.03 | findme | how far are you |
| 02:37.10 | findme | depends on the card |
| 02:37.12 | findme | that you have |
| 02:37.18 | findme | check out madwifi |
| 02:37.23 | findme | or ndiswrapper |
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| 02:37.36 | magik | little |
| 02:37.56 | rvsjoen | any way to mark a directory so that any files created in that directory gets a given owner and group ? |
| 02:37.57 | snowgeese | bye |
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| 02:38.07 | amd_goon | magik: iwconfig and iwlist are useful commands |
| 02:38.25 | magik | ?? |
| 02:38.30 | magik | driver? |
| 02:38.33 | magik | what is this |
| 02:38.40 | magik | iwconfig |
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| 02:38.47 | findme | magik, what is your card? |
| 02:39.05 | magik | ati |
| 02:39.14 | magik | grafical?? |
| 02:39.16 | beoba | humm, what's the difference between a "boundary" test case and a "negative" test case, arent they pretty much the same thing? |
| 02:39.39 | magik | amd_goon. please help my. |
| 02:39.42 | amd_goon | rvsjoen: setting the s bit in the group section of the directory will make files moved to that folder take on the same group as the directory, IIRC. |
| 02:39.55 | magik | I'm soryy. My english is poor :( |
| 02:40.01 | rvsjoen | thanks, that'll do just fine |
| 02:40.10 | magik | sou? |
| 02:40.40 | amd_goon | magik: wireless card or chip manufacturer |
| 02:41.07 | Gnea | magik: lspci |
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| 02:41.52 | magik | what i can make? |
| 02:42.21 | mherweg | hi all! how do i get a list of all installed packages in a form so that i can automatically install the same on a differnet system (amd64->i386)? |
| 02:42.52 | magik | haw? |
| 02:42.54 | dondelelcaro | !installed |
| 02:42.54 | dpkg | To list installed packages, COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}'; man dpkg; man grep; man awk; If you use aptitude, try aptitude search -F '%100p' '~i!~M'; |
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| 02:43.24 | magik | i haven't wireless |
| 02:43.53 | Gnea | magik: so wait, you wan't to connect cable to the router then your pc to the router? |
| 02:44.07 | Gnea | s/wan't/want/g |
| 02:44.12 | amd_goon | magik: sorry thought it was wireless |
| 02:44.45 | findme | mage, that is cabled hard wired |
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| 02:45.08 | dogmeat | how do i add a user to an existing group? |
| 02:45.10 | magik | i connect cable |
| 02:45.23 | Gnea | dogmeat: vigr |
| 02:46.06 | amd_goon | dogmeat: usermod -G, but check the man page. usermod -G g1,g2,g3 username |
| 02:46.15 | dogmeat | thanks |
| 02:47.15 | magik | You not understand. I have network wireless and i wand connect my computer in router wireless. Now i connect cable. I search driver fod deban 3.1 |
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| 02:47.39 | learnfromscratch | can some one tell what software has been used to prepare these presentation material in http://talks.php.net/show/fossin_xss/1 |
| 02:47.45 | magik | and questions. I mus connect in dhcp? |
| 02:47.50 | magik | in calbe i must |
| 02:47.58 | findme | WOW |
| 02:48.23 | magik | czy sa tu jacys polacy?? |
| 02:48.39 | amd_goon | I think magik wants to configure his nic (wired) to connect to his router to get wireless going. |
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| 02:48.51 | findme | !es |
| 02:48.51 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 02:49.14 | findme | ah |
| 02:49.24 | magik | no driver in this page |
| 02:49.31 | findme | amd_goon, amd_goon ++ |
| 02:50.01 | abrotman | learnfromscratch: ask #php ? |
| 02:50.20 | amd_goon | magik: If I understand, yes you can use dhcp so your wired card gets and address, and yes your network card needs a module or driver to work |
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| 02:50.34 | anibal | findme: that wasn't spanish |
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| 02:50.59 | findme | anibal, my bad i had no clue what it was |
| 02:51.02 | anibal | findme: it looks polish to me |
| 02:51.09 | amd_goon | magik: run /sbin/lspci to see what kink of network card you have |
| 02:51.27 | magik | in windows my ip is ...wrong in dhcp |
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| 02:51.34 | amd_goon | kind* |
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| 02:51.54 | magik | debian magik # :-) lspci |
| 02:51.54 | magik | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 0269 |
| 02:51.54 | magik | 0000:00:00.1 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 1269 |
| 02:51.54 | magik | 0000:00:00.2 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 2269 |
| 02:51.54 | magik | 0000:00:00.3 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3269 |
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| 02:51.55 | fei | ïðèâåò ëèíóêñîèäàì |
| 02:52.51 | fei | anybody speak in russian ? |
| 02:52.59 | abrotman | !ru |
| 02:52.59 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 02:53.00 | odla | !russian |
| 02:53.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, russian is Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
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| 02:53.17 | magik | so? |
| 02:53.18 | abrotman | !paste |
| 02:53.18 | dpkg | i guess paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 02:53.21 | fei | sanks |
| 02:53.23 | abrotman | !pciids |
| 02:53.23 | dpkg | pciids is probably run update-pciids or see http://pciids.sourceforge.net/, or run update-pciids to update your PCI ID database, if your lspci output shows "unknown device" |
| 02:53.26 | magik | kick my |
| 02:53.29 | magik | :( |
| 02:53.40 | magik | what time is it? |
| 02:53.47 | findme | late if you are asking |
| 02:53.49 | amd_goon | magik: don't paste a lot of text here, you get kicked off |
| 02:54.05 | magik | ok . thanks |
| 02:54.14 | magik | so my lspci? |
| 02:54.18 | dogmeat | anyone know if the book, "Understanding the Linux Kernel, 2nd" Oreilly text is any good? |
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| 02:54.55 | abrotman | dogmeat: what do the reviews say ? |
| 02:54.58 | caphuso | dogmeat: http://kernelnewbies.org/books.php3 |
| 02:55.07 | abrotman | dogmeat: and in general .. oreilly books are usually pretty good |
| 02:55.09 | magik | ok. My windows . router has ip 192.168.1.1 and my computer giv 194.234 etc. Whats wrong? |
| 02:55.29 | magik | their not contacts |
| 02:55.56 | tam | what is a good program to get the stats of all traffick leaving/entering eth0 apart from ntop? |
| 02:56.02 | tam | it doesn't have to be web based |
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| 02:56.09 | abrotman | iptraf ? |
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| 02:56.10 | amd_goon | magik: give your computer 192.168.1.2 |
| 02:56.14 | abrotman | !mrtg |
| 02:56.14 | dpkg | somebody said mrtg was old, use rrdtools instead. Check out http://ee-staff.ethz.ch/~oetiker/webtools/mrtg/mrtg.html and RRDTOOL is at http://www.uni-ulm.de/~rbawidam/mrtg-rrd/ |
| 02:56.39 | amd_goon | magik: ifdown eth0; ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up |
| 02:56.39 | tam | abrotman: ahh, cheers matey |
| 02:56.58 | amd_goon | magik: then try ping 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:57.07 | magik | yes cable is ok. |
| 02:57.18 | magik | wrieless is that |
| 02:57.51 | magik | ping is ok cable 192.168.1.1 |
| 02:57.57 | magik | and wrieles? |
| 02:58.14 | magik | i give ip no correct |
| 02:58.33 | amd_goon | magik: sorry I'm not good at wireless |
| 02:59.16 | magik | wtat make ifdown |
| 02:59.19 | findme | i thought dhcp would do automatic ip configuration |
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| 02:59.37 | magik | ifdown yes? |
| 02:59.59 | tam | ifdown eth0 |
| 03:00.01 | magik | any optiond? |
| 03:00.04 | magik | s |
| 03:00.25 | tam | that should be it and use ifup eth0 to bring it back up |
| 03:00.40 | findme | i would do ;#ifdown eth0;dhcp |
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| 03:01.00 | magik | then my eth0 down yes? |
| 03:01.08 | magik | ifdown |
| 03:01.09 | magik | ? |
| 03:01.14 | findme | ifdown eth0;ifup eth0 |
| 03:01.19 | amd_goon | magik: 'man interfaces' |
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| 03:01.28 | magik | this refresh? |
| 03:01.50 | amd_goon | magic: yes dhcp should give you a valid address |
| 03:02.01 | magik | ok |
| 03:02.02 | magik | . |
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| 03:02.44 | magik | ok active |
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| 03:03.04 | magik | nad my last question. How configure router? This rouoten linksys |
| 03:03.46 | amd_goon | magik: linksys WRT54G? |
| 03:03.47 | nissemus | Hello! I have two sarge servers running both set up identically. From my computer I can connect to them and everything works. But! if I try to lynx myfirstserver.com from second server or viceverca nothing works. |
| 03:03.51 | doublehp | I receive every day by email from localhost : unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname() - whats the pb ? |
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| 03:04.08 | nissemus | It just waits for Making HTTP connection. |
| 03:04.11 | mhall | dondelelcaro: hello, are you around? |
| 03:04.14 | nissemus | thats what lynx says |
| 03:04.25 | magik | adm_goon: so? |
| 03:04.27 | nissemus | theyre not firewalled. |
| 03:04.35 | magik | what dou you thing? |
| 03:04.41 | Sneaky_Bastard | dhp: host name not fully qualified .... no entry for that host in your DNS table |
| 03:04.52 | Sneaky_Bastard | no entry for that host in HOSTS file |
| 03:05.09 | Sneaky_Bastard | "moon" is a host in what domain ? |
| 03:05.12 | magik | think? |
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| 03:05.48 | amd_goon | magik: is the router a linksys WRT54G model? |
| 03:05.53 | nissemus | So nobody has a clue about the problem? |
| 03:06.06 | Smerdyakov | What's the rhyme and reason behind which values of DIST have directories dists/$DIST/main/disks-i386 in apt? |
| 03:06.12 | magik | How configure router? You know anybody |
| 03:06.19 | crash3m_ | nissemus: netstat -natl | grep 80 |
| 03:06.40 | crash3m_ | nissemus: I have a suspicion that its only listening on localhost |
| 03:06.54 | nissemus | crash3m_ tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 03:06.54 | nissemus | tcp 0 52 80.186.69.253:22 217.140.246.41:1967 ESTABLISHED |
| 03:06.59 | nissemus | sry |
| 03:07.03 | amd_goon | magik: open your browser and open url 192.168.1.1 |
| 03:07.23 | nissemus | crash3m_ nope it works fine but they wont connect each other. |
| 03:07.25 | crash3m_ | nissemus: can they 2 pc's ping each other? |
| 03:07.29 | nissemus | yes |
| 03:07.55 | crash3m_ | strange, check the httpd logs and see if you see failed requests, might also double check for a firewall |
| 03:08.02 | learnfromscratch | can some one suggest some good web based presentation systems !!! |
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| 03:08.09 | gentgeen__ | anyone know what I need to do to make qemu have network emulation? |
| 03:08.11 | magik | http?? |
| 03:08.13 | magik | wrong |
| 03:08.17 | tam | well i've ruled out now, iptraf, rrdtools, mrtg and ntop |
| 03:08.22 | crash3m_ | magik: eh? |
| 03:08.25 | magik | what protocol?? |
| 03:08.30 | nissemus | crash3m_ ok I'll check for logs |
| 03:08.32 | amd_goon | magik: yes |
| 03:08.33 | nissemus | just a sec. |
| 03:09.03 | rvsjoen | is setfacl able to set different permissions recursively on files and directories ? I want to give user 'full' access to a directory tree butif I use 'setfacl -R -m u:testuser:rwx <directory>' all the files in the tree gets flagged +x |
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| 03:09.41 | magik | that reead instruction and wrong |
| 03:09.52 | magik | i cant make connect! |
| 03:10.10 | magik | http://192.168.1.1 is wrong:( |
| 03:10.40 | amd_goon | magik: ok sometimes router address is 192.168.1.250 |
| 03:10.57 | magik | http? |
| 03:11.03 | Smerdyakov | mage, read the manual. |
| 03:11.06 | amd_goon | magik: or 192.168.1.245 |
| 03:11.07 | Smerdyakov | magik, read the manual. |
| 03:11.48 | magik | my router is 192.168.1.1 ping is return and i cant make connect in my router |
| 03:12.12 | magik | linksys is very windows |
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| 03:12.20 | amd_goon | magik: http://192.168.1.245 or http://192.168.1.250 |
| 03:12.50 | magik | no :( any |
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| 03:13.16 | linnewb | <linnewb> ok i removed /var then tryed fixing it by emerging system, after that when i rebooted i get "kernel panic - not syncing no init found try passing init=option to kernel" i am using kernel 2.6.11.15 |
| 03:13.19 | nissemus | crash3m_ nope, in apaches error.log I cant see anything about the ip that I was reaching the pages with. |
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| 03:14.16 | nissemus | crash3m_ what do you think... I have lousy d-link router (using nat) infornt of other server |
| 03:14.16 | magik | maby other make |
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| 03:14.34 | magik | fuck any my this tell (http://ip and finish) |
| 03:14.36 | nissemus | but they both work just fine when I try to reach them from my home. |
| 03:14.36 | amd_goon | magik: some old linksys equipment used a windows utility to configure them via USB cable |
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| 03:14.59 | nissemus | but reaching each other is not working. |
| 03:15.13 | nissemus | And it's a sin since I try to setup mysql replication |
| 03:15.25 | magik | I dont know. I hate windows and this router is :( fuck of |
| 03:15.46 | nissemus | oh! somebody else has a problem with router! |
| 03:15.48 | magik | but http://ip useally make? |
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| 03:16.09 | nissemus | magik beware of de-link routers... |
| 03:16.26 | linnewb | What about me, what about linnewb |
| 03:16.38 | findme | in my opinion router should be ok its the linksys card that is a pain in the ass |
| 03:16.40 | nissemus | I've hade two and they're bot were blocing random requests |
| 03:16.52 | magik | ok |
| 03:16.58 | findme | ah that problem you need to upgrade firewire to overcome that |
| 03:17.02 | magik | i must switch windows system :( |
| 03:17.06 | findme | but that was for old linksys ones |
| 03:17.07 | nissemus | crash3m_ any ideas? |
| 03:17.13 | bucky | nissemus, do you have myfirstserver.com in /etc/hosts or does a nameserver know who myfirstserver.com is ? |
| 03:17.17 | magik | i haven't program in irc protocol :( |
| 03:17.28 | nissemus | bucky I connect by IP. |
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| 03:17.48 | magik | Bye. Thanks for your helpfull! |
| 03:17.51 | bucky | nissemus, do you have port forwarding for 80 thru your router? |
| 03:18.07 | bucky | to the host |
| 03:18.20 | magik | Thanks very. You is very nice people :) bye! |
| 03:18.26 | encrypt | If i /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d X.X.X.X --dport 2106 -j DNAT --to y.y.y.y:2106 <- will it forward incoming connections to port 2106 to host y.y.y.y on port 2106? |
| 03:18.38 | nissemus | So let say that I can connect my serverA and serverB from my home(fully working) and if I try to lynx google.com it works (both on A and B) but when it comes time to reach each other it fails. |
| 03:18.45 | linnewb | rm -R /var/ |
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| 03:19.31 | locsmif | encrypt, why the -d option? |
| 03:19.36 | abrotman | is there a pdf reader that lets you insert your own bookmarks ? |
| 03:19.48 | encrypt | specifying dest IP |
| 03:20.03 | nissemus | encrypt ?? |
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| 03:20.08 | locsmif | if it's coming in from outside, the ip will be the outside ip of the box that's routing |
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| 03:20.48 | abrotman | Seb: are you a DD ? |
| 03:20.50 | encrypt | i have host A, B and C... I want host A to connect to port X on host B, on IP x.x.x.x(thats why -d), and then B redirects to host C |
| 03:20.57 | abrotman | hrm .. wrong seb |
| 03:20.59 | locsmif | if you add another rule like iptables -t filter -I FORWARD -p tcp --dport 2106 -j ACCEPT it should work |
| 03:21.17 | abrotman | Seb: ignore |
| 03:21.22 | linnewb | rm -R /var/, emerge system, sudo -s, reboot, "kernel panic - not syncing no init found try passing init=option to kernel" i am using kernel 2.6.11.15 |
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| 03:22.11 | Walzmyn | ah, the no init problem. Google it, the rest of the world is hvaeing the same problem |
| 03:22.12 | abrotman | linnewb: wrong channel ? |
| 03:22.13 | locsmif | encrypt, still, -d doesn't specify where it's going it specifies what destination address the incoming packet had, which will always be the address of the box the netfilter rule is on, when port forwarding |
| 03:22.37 | encrypt | yes but i have many ips on this box and i want to specify which one i want for this rule |
| 03:22.41 | linnewb | Walzmyn, oh really? :(, do they all delete /var/ as well? |
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| 03:22.48 | locsmif | encrypt, aha |
| 03:22.59 | encrypt | didnt work :( |
| 03:23.00 | linnewb | Walzmyn, can i boot up from grub |
| 03:23.18 | locsmif | well then add that FORWARD rule I showed you, optionally with the -d option as well |
| 03:23.19 | abrotman | linnewb: are you asking about a gentoo system ? |
| 03:23.26 | locsmif | encrypt, use -I preferably over -A |
| 03:23.26 | encrypt | let me try |
| 03:23.26 | magik | i can |
| 03:23.28 | magik | :) |
| 03:23.29 | Walzmyn | i've no idea. I had the problem the first 2 or 3 times I installed and i found hundreds of hits on google about |
| 03:23.30 | Walzmyn | it |
| 03:23.32 | magik | https:192.168.1.1 |
| 03:23.34 | locsmif | -A inserts at the bottom, -I at the top |
| 03:23.41 | magik | manual spell http :( |
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| 03:24.08 | encrypt | hmm didnt work.. |
| 03:24.14 | amd_goon | magik: nice! |
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| 03:24.20 | locsmif | if in doubt, replace -J ACCEPT with -j LOG --log-prefix iptables: |
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| 03:24.33 | encrypt | sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d x.x.x --dport 2106 -j DNAT --to y.y.y.y:2106 |
| 03:24.33 | magik | amd_goon thansk but his wand user and passwd |
| 03:24.38 | magik | so? |
| 03:24.40 | locsmif | and run tcpdump, see what goes in and out |
| 03:24.44 | magik | i haven;t |
| 03:24.46 | encrypt | iptables -t filter -I FORWARD -p tcp -d x.x.x.x --dport 2106 -j ACCEPT |
| 03:24.51 | encrypt | hmm ok thanks |
| 03:24.53 | abrotman | encrypt: #iptables ? |
| 03:24.57 | locsmif | encrypt, yep |
| 03:25.21 | locsmif | se -I preferably over -A |
| 03:25.25 | amd_goon | magik: defaults are usually: username: admin password: admin |
| 03:25.37 | magik | i check |
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| 03:25.58 | magik | no |
| 03:26.12 | encrypt | yeah its on the right place buts not forwarding.. ill try to check whats wrong logging.. thanks locsmif |
| 03:26.20 | magik | maby administrator |
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| 03:26.34 | magik | no |
| 03:26.49 | amd_goon | magik: is this router used? someone else configured before you? |
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| 03:27.35 | magik | yes admini for dsl |
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| 03:28.01 | magik | but user and passwd ?? |
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| 03:28.27 | magik | Their no leave |
| 03:28.55 | magik | but i cant connect. Thanks |
| 03:29.12 | amd_goon | magik: if you can't find out, use the reset button to reset the router to defaults. Hold it in for 10 seconds, then reconnect |
| 03:29.31 | magik | ok i go tu bed. I see in watch 4:29 a.m |
| 03:29.39 | magik | ? |
| 03:29.44 | magik | wrong? |
| 03:29.49 | amd_goon | magik: or try username admin and no password |
| 03:30.03 | magik | this connect. Reset is goot of bad :( |
| 03:30.04 | amd_goon | maic: good night |
| 03:30.10 | magik | I dont know |
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| 03:30.56 | magik | defaults user is admin? |
| 03:30.56 | magik | or administrator |
| 03:30.56 | amd_goon | magik: it is on mine |
| 03:31.05 | amd_goon | magik: admin |
| 03:31.05 | magik | ?? |
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| 03:31.36 | magik | i dont understand |
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| 03:31.44 | magik | (my english is poor) :( |
| 03:31.57 | magik | i put buttor reset |
| 03:32.09 | magik | then user and password is default . Yes? |
| 03:32.18 | magik | no put. click :) |
| 03:32.23 | magik | push :) |
| 03:32.30 | sciboy | http://www.bioware.com - Vote for Linux! |
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| 03:32.34 | Reilithion | What' |
| 03:32.51 | Reilithion | what's a good bittorrent client with a Debian-friendly license? |
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| 03:33.02 | magik | amd_good: I not understand. Answer my pleae |
| 03:33.04 | sciboy | Damn my irc client. |
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| 03:33.10 | m0rbid | quick, KDE or Gnome. |
| 03:33.15 | amd_goon | magik:http://www.phenoelit.de/dpl/dpl.html |
| 03:33.18 | abrotman | xfce! |
| 03:33.29 | Reilithion | !start a desktop war |
| 03:33.29 | dpkg | Be smart, use WindowMaker. |
| 03:33.32 | WireDDD | sciboy thats pretty funny, linux is tied with windows |
| 03:33.34 | Ronin | Reilithion: bittornado |
| 03:33.36 | sciboy | XFCE Rulez! |
| 03:33.36 | abrotman | !tell m0rbid about install gnome |
| 03:33.38 | abrotman | !tell m0rbid about install kde |
| 03:33.52 | Ronin | Reilithion: bitorrent as well :) |
| 03:34.03 | odla | m0rbid: between the two...gnome |
| 03:34.05 | amd_goon | magik: yes that will put it to default username and password |
| 03:34.13 | magik | O fuck . very lot passwd |
| 03:34.16 | sciboy | WireDDD: Not quite, windows will always take the lead. =/ |
| 03:34.19 | Reilithion | Ronin, isn't bittorrent using a new license that doesn't play nice with Debian? |
| 03:34.20 | Ronin | brrr, who turned the damn heat down |
| 03:34.29 | WireDDD | sciboy 1% difference |
| 03:34.34 | Ronin | Reilithion: running it quite nicely on sarge |
| 03:34.46 | Reilithion | Yeah, 3.4.2 or something, right? |
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| 03:35.47 | amd_goon | magik: look for your model name? |
| 03:35.51 | Reilithion | Ronin, 3.4.2 is really old. they're on 4.2.1 now |
| 03:36.07 | Ronin | Reilithion: well they dont call sarge stable for nothing |
| 03:36.08 | magik | amd_goon: Thanks. I cant see my model |
| 03:36.12 | Reilithion | lol |
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| 03:36.35 | magik | ok i go to bed. What time is it your clock amd_goom? |
| 03:36.53 | magik | i look 4:37 a.m :( |
| 03:36.56 | Reilithion | Ronin, try double-clicking on a bittorrent seed file. see what happens. I'm betting you'll notice the same thing I do. |
| 03:36.58 | amd_goon | magik: 9:36pm |
| 03:37.03 | magik | heh |
| 03:37.18 | Reilithion | instead of just opening one with your browser |
| 03:37.20 | magik | you sleep before 1 hour? |
| 03:37.20 | amd_goon | magik: you go to sleep! |
| 03:37.21 | magik | heh |
| 03:37.25 | magik | ok |
| 03:37.28 | magik | no problem :) |
| 03:37.33 | findme | amd_goon, amd_goon ++ |
| 03:37.36 | magik | Where are you from |
| 03:37.37 | magik | ? |
| 03:37.48 | Ronin | Reilithion: i dont do gui for this i use a term |
| 03:37.53 | Reilithion | ah |
| 03:38.00 | magik | amd_goon? |
| 03:38.02 | amd_goon | magik: manitoba, Canada |
| 03:38.10 | Ronin | bittorrentcurses etc...... |
| 03:38.19 | magik | Thanks for yo9ur help. and i go to ed |
| 03:38.22 | magik | bed |
| 03:38.24 | amd_goon | magik: you are in poland? |
| 03:38.29 | magik | you wish is ..... bye |
| 03:38.32 | Reilithion | well, when I try to download stuff the way I described, the window doesn't update unless I minimize and restore it |
| 03:38.43 | magik | yes |
| 03:38.47 | magik | warszawa |
| 03:38.49 | magik | :_) |
| 03:38.57 | magik | Do you have deiban3.1? |
| 03:38.58 | Reilithion | stable my eye |
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| 03:39.24 | Ronin | stable as a rock |
| 03:39.34 | Reilithion | !tell magik about enter |
| 03:39.40 | amd_goon | magik: yes, plus kanotix, fedora, and more |
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| 03:40.00 | Reilithion | anyway, I'll take a look at bittornado |
| 03:40.03 | amd_goon | magik:mostly debian sarge |
| 03:40.09 | nissemus | Oh hell! I'm pulling my hairs |
| 03:40.11 | nissemus | off |
| 03:40.21 | magik | ok too have debian 3.1. Is good |
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| 03:40.56 | magik | you use windows? |
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| 03:41.19 | magik | anybody use in your city? |
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| 03:42.13 | magik | ok amd_goom good bye |
| 03:42.20 | magik | i must go to bed :) |
| 03:42.33 | amd_goon | magik: yes a few people use debian, there is a group we meet once a week. |
| 03:42.47 | magik | see you son ! |
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| 03:42.53 | amd_goon | magik: yes bye |
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| 03:43.37 | abrotman | i'm evil |
| 03:44.01 | amd_goon | abrotman: how eveil are you? |
| 03:44.07 | amd_goon | evil* |
| 03:44.21 | abrotman | i could explain .. but it'd be offtopic .. and take a few days |
| 03:44.51 | amd_goon | a little hint? |
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| 03:45.19 | abrotman | hint about what? |
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| 03:45.37 | amd_goon | your evil doings |
| 03:45.37 | abrotman | i feel bad filing wishlist bugs .. but that only covers the last five minutes .. i'm talking about years of evil |
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| 03:46.40 | amd_goon | ok that sounds off-topic |
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| 03:47.21 | Reilithion | Aahhh! |
| 03:47.25 | Reilithion | that'd be scary! |
| 03:47.33 | Reilithion | like, from some spy movie or something |
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| 03:47.34 | amd_goon | hmmm perhaps, yes abrotman?? |
| 03:47.39 | abrotman | what ? |
| 03:47.41 | Reilithion | when the good guy turns out to be a bad guy all along |
| 03:47.50 | abrotman | no .. i don't use ubuntu |
| 03:47.54 | odla | a ubuntoobie |
| 03:47.58 | amd_goon | maybe he is running fedora |
| 03:48.00 | odla | he he |
| 03:48.04 | Reilithion | of course, that's exactly what an ubuntu spy would say... |
| 03:48.25 | dogmeat | "understanding the linux kernel, 2nd" only covers 2.4 |
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| 03:50.00 | Reilithion | hey, where can I read about Debian's decisions on whether or not software should be included in Debian, for instance, due to licensing issues or legal concerns? |
| 03:50.36 | odla | Reilithion: www.debian.org and read the licence stuff |
| 03:50.39 | amd_goon | ummm, is that is debian policy? |
| 03:50.54 | gravity | Reilithion: The debian-legal archives |
| 03:50.56 | odla | DPL? |
| 03:50.56 | gravity | If that... |
| 03:51.00 | Guerin | !dfsg |
| 03:51.00 | dpkg | dfsg is, like, the Debian Free Software Guidelines, which can be found at http://www.debian.org/intro/free, or http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines |
| 03:51.05 | Guerin | and debian-legal |
| 03:51.08 | Reilithion | thanks |
| 03:51.08 | gravity | Reilithion: Such things aren't always fully documented |
| 03:51.08 | odla | ah yes DFSG |
| 03:51.16 | abrotman | Reilithion: lists.debian.org/debian-legal/ . or something like that |
| 03:51.17 | gravity | Since it's ultimately up to the ftpmasters |
| 03:51.37 | gravity | Kind of a complicated question really |
| 03:52.05 | encrypt | If i /sbin/iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i eth0 -d X.X.X.X --dport 2106 -j DNAT --to y.y.y.y:2106 <- will it forward incoming connections to port 2106 to host y.y.y.y on port 2106? PS: host y.y.y.y is at another machine |
| 03:52.16 | abrotman | encrypt: #iptables |
| 03:52.19 | encrypt | sorry |
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| 03:54.13 | Reilithion | abrotman, you hit the nail on the head. thanks. |
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| 03:55.20 | abrotman | Reilithion: as gravity said .. it's not cut and dry ... |
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| 03:59.23 | proc | hi |
| 03:59.37 | abrotman | !moo |
| 03:59.37 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 03:59.39 | proc | is there a debian-way to get java working under dark peer (firefox 1.5)? |
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| 03:59.57 | abrotman | deer park ? |
| 04:00.03 | abrotman | !tell proc about install java |
| 04:00.14 | proc | err deer park, lol |
| 04:00.16 | proc | yes |
| 04:00.18 | proc | thanks |
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| 04:00.47 | Abe_Sapien | Hey all! Anyone here firmilliar with the HPPA port of Deb? |
| 04:01.02 | someguy | k |
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| 04:01.45 | abrotman | !parisc |
| 04:01.45 | dpkg | rumour has it, parisc is see pa-risc |
| 04:01.51 | abrotman | !pa-risc |
| 04:01.51 | odla | proc: you'll have to manually symlink libjavaplugin_oji.so for firefox to recognize java |
| 04:01.52 | dpkg | i guess pa-risc is http://www.parisc-linux.org |
| 04:01.56 | abrotman | oh ffs |
| 04:02.04 | odla | proc: with deer park that is |
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| 04:02.57 | abrotman | odla: no |
| 04:03.12 | odla | abrotman: yes...i had to do it...after using java-package |
| 04:03.16 | abrotman | unless you manually installed FF1.5 .. which would be stupid |
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| 04:03.26 | odla | abrotman: i used the backport.org package |
| 04:03.34 | abrotman | then it should have been done for you |
| 04:03.39 | odla | it didn't |
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| 04:03.54 | abrotman | bad package i guess then ... |
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| 04:04.16 | FarrisG | in mutt,how do you view messages marked for deletion? The cursor just seems to skip over them |
| 04:04.37 | abrotman | FF is such a pain in the ass :) |
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| 04:04.49 | proc | I would quit and say "no" to the question wether they should be deleted |
| 04:04.50 | odla | abrotman: i agree...ff1.5 seems pretty damn unstable |
| 04:04.53 | proc | and then I'd read them again |
| 04:05.06 | Smerdyakov | Does anyone know how to bootstrap Debian unstable inside User-Mode Linux? |
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| 04:05.12 | proc | good night |
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| 04:05.19 | abrotman | !debootstrap |
| 04:05.19 | dpkg | debootstrap is probably <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 04:05.23 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: ^^ ? |
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| 04:05.49 | Bogaurd | how does the debian ircd-hybrid irc server compare with unrealircd? |
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| 04:06.37 | amd_goon | so FF1.5 is not stable? |
| 04:06.59 | Smerdyakov | abrotman, that wants a "basedebs.tar" file (at least with the instructions I've found on a web page). Where do I get it for unstable? |
| 04:07.00 | abrotman | amd_goon: i've heard no .. on win32 it seems ok .. but that's about it |
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| 04:08.41 | EruditeH1rmit | part |
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| 04:08.52 | amd_goon | lately, (~5 months) I found mozilla to perform better |
| 04:09.07 | amd_goon | Also use dillo for real speed |
| 04:09.12 | abrotman | opera! |
| 04:09.39 | amd_goon | opera, yes so I read |
| 04:10.02 | abrotman | i figure opera is just as free as flash or java |
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| 04:10.34 | amd_goon | oh opera not GPL then? |
| 04:10.46 | SimonRaven | no |
| 04:10.52 | abrotman | not even close |
| 04:11.43 | Smerdyakov | abrotman, did you see my question and just don't have an answer? |
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| 04:12.38 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: i did .. that's what the ^^ was for :) |
| 04:12.46 | abrotman | oh .. sorry .. whoops .. i see now |
| 04:13.07 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: i don't know that you can bet a base-debs.tar for sid .. |
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| 04:13.41 | Smerdyakov | So then your original answer doesn't apply to my question? Or there is another way to bootstrap unstable using debootstrap |
| 04:14.48 | Smerdyakov | I guess the man page makes it look like there is no need for that special tarball. |
| 04:15.25 | abrotman | i'm looking for the basedebs.tar |
| 04:16.50 | poop | Are modules listed with "[permanent]" on the initrd image? |
| 04:17.48 | poop | This blacklisted module is being loaded before hotplug or discover (init even), but I can't figure out where. |
| 04:18.38 | SimonRaven | basedebs.tar disappeared with woody... |
| 04:18.57 | abrotman | apparently |
| 04:19.54 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.en.html#s-chroot ? |
| 04:20.06 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: though i guess you don't want a chroot |
| 04:20.40 | Smerdyakov | It seems to be working fine just not specifying that tarball. |
| 04:20.50 | abrotman | oh .. ok |
| 04:21.23 | Smerdyakov | I guess there is no way to cache the downloaded packages, if you want to repeat the set-up process? |
| 04:21.51 | jelly | chroot should be fine if you just copy the contents to the disk image for uml afterwards. |
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| 04:22.24 | Smerdyakov | Right, but what if I want to start over and create a new UML image? Can I avoid re-downloading the packages? |
| 04:22.31 | jelly | hmm |
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| 04:23.15 | poop | What's the best way to make sure a module isn't include when an initrd image is created? |
| 04:23.20 | poop | included |
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| 04:24.44 | jelly | Smerdyakov: I don't know much about debootstrap, I seem to recall it keeps a sort of a cache somehow, but when last I played with it, it wanted to download them all over again too. Maybe apt-proxy would help? |
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| 04:27.24 | caphuso | jerome: it uses /chroot/dir/var/cache/apt/archives/ as cache |
| 04:27.27 | caphuso | damn |
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| 04:28.47 | mtupper | can somebody help me figure out why I can only log into vsftpd with the root acct while having the option: local_enable=yes ??? |
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| 04:30.04 | abrotman | do other users have valid shells ? |
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| 04:33.31 | mtupper | abrotman, good question. how do i know, find out? |
| 04:33.41 | abrotman | look in /etc/passwd ? |
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| 04:35.23 | Fujoor | hey people, a simple question, if i want to read a cd in debian i have to type in some mount command, right? Im used to the old d:, how should i do? |
| 04:35.34 | dondelelcaro | Fujoor: mount /cdrom; ls /cdrom |
| 04:35.35 | abrotman | what kind of CD ? |
| 04:36.00 | abrotman | i thought in sarge it was /media/cdrom or something |
| 04:36.17 | dondelelcaro | oh. it could be. |
| 04:36.29 | dondelelcaro | I've always had it as /cdrom or /mnt/cdrom... |
| 04:36.32 | Fujoor | a normal one |
| 04:36.38 | Fujoor | ah thanks, ill try that right away |
| 04:36.52 | Fujoor | i wrote mount dev/cdrom because of some weird guide |
| 04:37.21 | Smerdyakov | debootstrap failed for sid. :-( |
| 04:37.24 | abrotman | mount /dev/cdrom might work |
| 04:37.40 | Smerdyakov | It fails configuring debconf, with no diagnostic output about why./ |
| 04:38.11 | Fujoor | it worked, great, do i have to do the mount command everytime i want to read a cd?= |
| 04:38.14 | abrotman | Smerdyakov: why not install sarge and then upgrade it ? |
| 04:38.38 | mtupper | abrotman, perfect, thx, quick follow-up question: if the user I was trying to login with had... user1:x:1002:100::/home/user1: and the one I just successfully logged in with had: user2:x:1003:1003:User Name,,,:/home/user2:/bin/bash .... then is it as easy as just adding the /bin/bash to the line of the user1 to get it to work? |
| 04:38.56 | Smerdyakov | abrotman, upgrading from woody was painful. It seems to be working with etch now, though. |
| 04:39.02 | abrotman | mtupper: should be .. |
| 04:39.13 | mtupper | abrotman, sweet thanks. |
| 04:39.13 | abrotman | mtupper: make sure you back up the file first |
| 04:39.24 | abrotman | mtupper: and DO NOT Mess with root's line |
| 04:39.35 | mtupper | got it, thanks |
| 04:39.50 | abrotman | (unless you know what you're doing .. but since you asked .. i'll assume messing with it would be bad) |
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| 04:41.47 | mtupper | yes, it is a very safe assumption that I do not really know what I am doing. |
| 04:42.07 | mtupper | thats why I am here asking stupid questions |
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| 04:51.27 | dondelelcaro | horray for automated installs of woody and upgrades to sarge. |
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| 04:52.43 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: heh. it's just a new demo box that I cooked up; it'll demonstrate how trivial it is to upgrade from woody to sarge by actually doing the upgrade. |
| 04:53.17 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: mkay, cool |
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| 04:53.21 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: ever after the reports that upgrades were failing ? |
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| 04:54.48 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: nah, just a trivial demo for apachecon |
| 04:55.11 | abrotman | will you migrate to apache2? :) |
| 04:55.23 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: well, it could, but woody didn't have apache2 |
| 04:55.29 | abrotman | i know that |
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| 05:11.25 | selfcontr0l | allright i know this is a dumb question, BUT: i am learning about CVS, but i don't understand what "module" i need... the command line is cvs -z3 -d:pserver:anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/bookmarksync co -P modulename |
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| 05:11.38 | selfcontr0l | so what do i put for "modulename"? |
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| 05:13.18 | dave | udev |
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| 05:13.58 | Bogaurd | episode 7 |
| 05:14.02 | Bogaurd | oops. |
| 05:15.14 | beginner | i'm trying to connect to a pc using ssh. although i can ping it, the 'ssh user@host' waits and does not work? |
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| 05:15.32 | beginner | that pc is running sshd |
| 05:15.44 | dondelelcaro | beginner: run ssh -vv user@host; and see what is going on. |
| 05:15.45 | odla | beginner: are you a newbie? |
| 05:16.02 | beginner | the name is self expl. |
| 05:16.05 | dondelelcaro | beginner: additionally try to telnet host 22; and make sure that it can ocnnect. |
| 05:17.32 | selfcontr0l | How do I determine which "modulename" is the one i want from the CVS repository? |
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| 05:18.38 | selfcontr0l | cd '/home/adam/' |
| 05:18.47 | selfcontr0l | oops |
| 05:19.12 | beginner | dondelelcaro: ssh shows debuging info, and waits after the line saying "debug1: connecting to host [ip] port" and telnet waits after printing "Trying host" |
| 05:19.19 | peterS | selfcontr0l: the 'bookmarksync' site should tell you what modules are available |
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| 05:19.55 | blunted | how do i uncompress .rar ? |
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| 05:20.02 | peterS | blunted: unrar |
| 05:20.04 | Coweater | unrar in non-free |
| 05:20.13 | blunted | oh |
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| 05:20.20 | blunted | how do i get to non-free? |
| 05:20.26 | Gnea | !nonfree |
| 05:20.26 | dpkg | i heard non-free is always "evil". It has its place in the world, but most Debianers would rather not use it. Any software not meeting this definition: http://www.debian.org/social_contract#guidelines is in there or contrib, or #debian-nonfree and http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org/, or if you MUST, add 'contrib non-free' to the end of a sources.list line, or http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/categories.html |
| 05:20.27 | selfcontr0l | peterS: but they are client-windows/ server-php-full/ server-php-minimal/ |
| 05:20.56 | blunted | cool |
| 05:20.57 | peterS | selfcontr0l: don't ask me which one you are interested in. that's kind of between you and whoever suggested that you check out the software |
| 05:20.57 | selfcontr0l | peterS: i don't have windows and i don't have a server..or is server what i want? |
| 05:20.58 | blunted | thx |
| 05:21.11 | peterS | selfcontr0l: I don't even know what that software *is* |
| 05:21.47 | selfcontr0l | sigh...well it's supposed to keep your bookmarks sync'd with more than one computer |
| 05:22.24 | Gnea | a stick of 256meg pc2700 and a stick of 512meg not sure what the story is on that one... |
| 05:22.44 | Gnea | but they fit the same slot |
| 05:22.50 | selfcontr0l | i figured if it's on sourceforge it's gotta work with linux..and it says it does..i just don't know what module i'm supposed to get |
| 05:23.36 | peterS | selfcontr0l: if the docs on that site don't explain what the different modules do, they should fix that.... maybe try getting both of the non-windows ones and poke around them a bit |
| 05:25.03 | dondelelcaro | beginner: then for some resaon you can't connect to that machine. the reasons why are almost certainly network related. See if those packets are actually making it to that machine, or if it's refuisng connections from your machine. |
| 05:25.11 | selfcontr0l | peterS: yeah that's what i'm gonna have to do...thx for your help....if it *is* the client-windows one, they should rename it to just client :) |
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| 05:25.18 | peterS | selfcontr0l: heh |
| 05:25.32 | beginner | i'll try traceroute and comeback |
| 05:25.46 | peterS | we need to ship a /usr/games/comeback |
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| 05:26.47 | beginner | traceroute hits the pc on the third hop! |
| 05:27.07 | beginner | also now i got timeouts for both ssh and telnet which were waiting |
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| 05:28.21 | diesel | I am trying to get sshfs working, but when I try 'ssh user@host:/ /mnt/remote'...I get fusermount:failed to open /dev/fuse: No such file or directory. How do I get sshfs to work |
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| 05:29.11 | Gnea | diesel: http://fuse.sourceforge.net/sshfs.html seems to outline it quite clearly. |
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| 05:30.42 | diesel | I used dpkg to get fuse |
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| 05:31.15 | diesel | also, I installed the fuse kernel module (w/ module-assistant). |
| 05:31.49 | diesel | Gnea: So I would like to use the deb packages |
| 05:32.13 | astronut | diesel: sounds like the module isn't loaded |
| 05:32.25 | diesel | astronut: lsmod shows fuse |
| 05:32.54 | Gnea | diesel: now if you read http://fuse.sourceforge.net/ it tells you how to get fuse working by itself - sshfs would just be the next step |
| 05:33.15 | astronut | diesel: do you have udev? |
| 05:33.44 | astronut | Gnea: a /dev entry mising would be ooutside the scope of "make" "make install", etc |
| 05:34.08 | Gnea | astronut: true, but surely there are debian docs in the usual places as well |
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| 05:35.07 | diesel | astronut: no I do not |
| 05:35.33 | astronut | diesel: you may need to create /dev/fuse, udev would do so automatically |
| 05:35.38 | astronut | but i am off to bed |
| 05:35.55 | diesel | astronut: thanks |
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| 05:38.02 | beginner | dondelelcaro: as i understand from you timeouts are related to network issue? right?... moreover the pc is behined a router |
| 05:38.34 | dondelelcaro | beginner: well, presumably; if you can't actually connect to the box (which is what appears to be the case) that's the general problem. |
| 05:38.51 | dondelelcaro | beginner: if the router isn't forwarding 22 to the pc, it isn't going to work. |
| 05:39.09 | beginner | it is set to forword tcp udp port 22 |
| 05:39.16 | beginner | to that pc |
| 05:39.33 | dondelelcaro | beginner: well, if the packets are actually getting to 22 on the router, they're not making it to the pc. |
| 05:39.34 | Gnea | what the hell... i go to shutdown -h now and it doesn't actually do anything other than print to syslog: shutdown[27937]: shutting down for system halt |
| 05:39.41 | dondelelcaro | (or they're not making it down) |
| 05:39.46 | dondelelcaro | s/down/back/ |
| 05:39.53 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: heh |
| 05:39.58 | M_Cheevy | heya folks... little problem.. had a power outage during and aptitude install set ( a whole lot of packages). I've managed to reboot and ran a fsck.jfs on it, but it griped about permission issues with /var/lib/dpkg/update/tmp.i. so I nuked it, but now it crashes. is there a way to reset the entire /var/lib/dpkg tree? |
| 05:40.01 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: call telinit 6 forcibly |
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| 05:40.33 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: nada |
| 05:41.17 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: hrm... did init start to switch to 6? has it done anything? |
| 05:41.23 | Gnea | nope |
| 05:41.29 | Gnea | it just sits there and does nothing |
| 05:41.43 | Gnea | now, this is a sid box, but it's also never done this before |
| 05:41.43 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: what does ps axfu|grep init; show? |
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| 05:42.00 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.11 | dondelelcaro | it's still in runlevel 2. |
| 05:42.14 | Gnea | like it's stuck at runlevel 2 |
| 05:42.26 | dondelelcaro | are you in a chroot or something? |
| 05:42.29 | Gnea | nope |
| 05:42.39 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: does /dev/initctl exist? |
| 05:42.45 | beginner | i forget to say, that it was working... then somebody had restarted that pc which caused that session to hang... is there any possibility for lock files or such thing? |
| 05:42.54 | fooz | what's the proper way to extract a source deb? |
| 05:43.01 | dondelelcaro | fooz: dpkg-source -x foo.dsc |
| 05:43.04 | fooz | thanks |
| 05:43.13 | dondelelcaro | fooz: but you can do it manually as well with tar, patch, and chmod. |
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| 05:43.33 | fooz | bleh :) |
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| 05:44.15 | fooz | need to make ffmpeg output PSP compatible video |
| 05:44.53 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: hrm yeah it does |
| 05:45.10 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: is init actually connected to it? |
| 05:45.30 | Gnea | init 1 root 10u FIFO 8,1 97677 /dev/initctl |
| 05:45.31 | Gnea | yes |
| 05:45.57 | dondelelcaro | hrm... well, that's really wierd. |
| 05:46.06 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: well, try shutdown -n -r now; |
| 05:46.08 | Gnea | yeah that's what i'm saying |
| 05:46.24 | dondelelcaro | Gnea: you could also try strace'ing init to see what the hell it's doing. |
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| 05:53.14 | konfuzed | when I did the reconfig xserver-xorg earlier it surprised me with the request for video ram and I left it blank and then figured the on board video figures that out by hardware. |
| 05:53.22 | konfuzed | or did I get that wrong |
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| 05:53.57 | gravity | konfuzed: It does, but the configure script offers you the chance to fill it in yourself |
| 05:54.00 | konfuzed | I fot funny screen issues |
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| 05:54.09 | gravity | konfuzed: Basically, if you don't need to fill it in, don't bother |
| 05:54.13 | konfuzed | so better to leave empty for default |
| 05:54.17 | gravity | Right |
| 05:54.18 | konfuzed | great |
| 05:54.21 | konfuzed | mind at ease |
| 05:54.30 | gravity | It's really only useful for multiple video cards, iirc |
| 05:54.31 | konfuzed | so thesse odd screen problems are soemthing else thne |
| 05:54.36 | gravity | Also probably a few buggy ones I'm not aware of |
| 05:54.43 | gravity | What sort of odd screen problems? |
| 05:55.25 | konfuzed | there was a line that bounced around my screen and then stopped and then others windows would cover it up but only the parts they touched of course |
| 05:55.38 | konfuzed | when I activated them |
| 05:55.40 | gravity | Weird. What driver are you using? |
| 05:55.57 | konfuzed | I thought it was nvidia but turns out to be SIS |
| 05:56.05 | gravity | heh |
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| 05:56.51 | konfuzed | on board vid |
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| 05:57.42 | konfuzed | when I did the reconfig xserver-xorg earlier it insisted on SIS international even though I first put in nv |
| 05:57.47 | woody7 | quick question to all, have any of you install the new debian to a imac G3 yet? |
| 05:57.51 | encompass | hi everyone |
| 05:58.01 | gravity | Interesting |
| 05:58.09 | gravity | konfuzed: Have you tried it with the vesa driver? |
| 05:58.17 | gravity | I'd be interested to know if it's a sis-specific issue |
| 05:58.34 | encompass | Does anyone here know where I can purchase a webcam the will work with linux, I am setting up a live cam for a radio station. |
| 05:58.35 | encompass | ? |
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| 05:59.08 | konfuzed | why vesa |
| 05:59.26 | konfuzed | encompass: get an ip cam |
| 05:59.31 | gravity | Because it'll run and if that works then it's a problem with the sis driver and not the X server or your card or whatever... |
| 05:59.36 | konfuzed | it independently runs linux |
| 06:00.15 | encompass | hmm are they cheep? |
| 06:00.22 | konfuzed | darn the box is all unplugged |
| 06:00.25 | gravity | konfuzed: I don't understand what you mean |
| 06:01.20 | konfuzed | gravity: this was for encompass: it independently runs linux |
| 06:01.40 | encompass | oh cool |
| 06:01.45 | gravity | Ah, ok |
| 06:01.54 | konfuzed | encompass: you plug an ethernet cable in and then you can pull it up on a webpage and its a quality camera |
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| 06:02.16 | encompass | I figure that, but they probably want something cheeper. |
| 06:02.22 | konfuzed | i suppose embedded linux would be more appropriate |
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| 06:02.56 | konfuzed | its full open source |
| 06:03.15 | xevious | evolution or thunderbird? |
| 06:03.24 | konfuzed | its basically a quality camera with ethernet port and embedded web server |
| 06:03.59 | encompass | evolution |
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| 06:04.20 | konfuzed | mmmmmmmmmmmmm made double chocolate & double chocolate chips cookies |
| 06:04.32 | konfuzed | with my little one that is |
| 06:05.02 | konfuzed | i dont like this box |
| 06:05.09 | konfuzed | I wanna send it back and replace the board |
| 06:05.18 | konfuzed | wheres my msi with nvidia |
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| 06:08.21 | xevious | one vote for evolution so far. evolution or thunderbird? |
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| 06:11.19 | roadfish | cfdisk says I have ubc8 but mount says "special device /dev/ubc8 does not exist" |
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| 06:11.32 | roadfish | I'm using this mount command: |
| 06:11.36 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:11.57 | roadfish | any ideas? do USB harddrive enclosures limit the number of partitions? |
| 06:12.20 | tictac | roadfish: no. the enclosure is just that. an enclosure. |
| 06:12.23 | fooz | heh |
| 06:12.23 | konfuzed | roadfish there is always alimit |
| 06:12.29 | tictac | roadfish: the drive inside is a normal desktop driv.e |
| 06:12.32 | b14ck | Isn't it 26? |
| 06:12.36 | tictac | desktop/laptop |
| 06:12.38 | konfuzed | to the number of partitions |
| 06:12.41 | KerPlunk | roadfish: Check the jumper pins on the drive. |
| 06:12.41 | b14ck | Or is that only ntfs? |
| 06:12.45 | b14ck | /fat32 |
| 06:12.58 | fooz | roadfish, the disk driver can.. what is /dev/ubc? |
| 06:13.20 | fooz | you should probably use usb-storage instead |
| 06:13.44 | roadfish | KerPlunk: the enclosure manual says I should use "master/single" which is with no jumpers. I think I have that right. |
| 06:14.16 | konfuzed | there's one of thoes pass through coonnectors |
| 06:14.19 | roadfish | fooz: ubc is an external usb harddrive ... or is there some other info you want from me? |
| 06:14.29 | fooz | what driver provides /dev/ubc |
| 06:14.49 | roadfish | fooz: I don't know ... how would I find out that kind of information? |
| 06:15.06 | caphuso | fooz: on a sane system? none |
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| 06:15.29 | roadfish | konfuzed: would cfdisk and mount have different limits with-respect-to # of partitions? |
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| 06:15.56 | konfuzed | technically possible but unlikely |
| 06:15.58 | fooz | mount doesn't know what a partition is |
| 06:16.03 | fooz | only fdisk and the kernel do |
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| 06:16.18 | fooz | mount only mounts block devices (provided by the kernel) |
| 06:16.19 | konfuzed | mount just tells them when |
| 06:16.24 | konfuzed | plugs em in |
| 06:16.27 | konfuzed | turns em on |
| 06:16.34 | roadfish | fooz: ok, so if cfdisk shows all the partitions and mount is behaving badly then what's up there? |
| 06:16.57 | fooz | roadfish, mount isn't behaving badly. mount told you /dev/ubc8 doesn't exist |
| 06:17.00 | fooz | type ls /dev/ubc8 |
| 06:17.15 | marty | question (big surprise): i used "locate *.mp3" to get a list of all mp3 files on my computer (ext3 filesystem) is there any easy command to move all of those files to one folder? |
| 06:17.53 | roadfish | fooz: ok, got you ... my system automatically created create /dev/ubc1 (and c5-c7) ... but not ubc8 ... so is the critter automatically making the dev entries that's messed up |
| 06:18.04 | fooz | roadfish, are you using devfs or udev? |
| 06:18.18 | dondelelcaro | marty: find + mv. |
| 06:18.42 | roadfish | fooz: I'm not smart enough on devfs/udev ... how can I tell? |
| 06:19.08 | dondelelcaro | marty: something like find / -type f -iname '*.mp3' -print0|xargs -0 mv -t foodir; |
| 06:19.10 | roadfish | and, presumably, I could manually create /dev/ubc8 and I'll be a happy fish. |
| 06:19.31 | fooz | roadfish, /dev/.udevdb will exist if udev is running. /dev/.devfsd will exist if devfs is running |
| 06:19.42 | konfuzed | any known issues with winfast motherboards with smepron and SIS video |
| 06:19.50 | dondelelcaro | marty: if anything already exists in foodir, you'll probably need to exclude it using -path and -prune. info find; for more detail. |
| 06:19.56 | fooz | roadfish, maybe, but we're wondering wtf driver you're using that is providing /dev/ubc* in the first place |
| 06:20.10 | marty | ok |
| 06:20.11 | marty | thanks |
| 06:20.30 | konfuzed | its better if I have third party in put on that instead of my just whining about it ;^) |
| 06:20.47 | konfuzed | empowered by foxconn |
| 06:21.16 | roadfish | ok, I don't gave _either_ /dev/.udevdb or /dev/.devfsd ... but I do have /sys which, I recall, automatically creates stuff whenever USB devices get plugged in. |
| 06:21.23 | roadfish | s/gave/have/ |
| 06:21.34 | fooz | roadfish, are you using ub (the low-performance USB block driver) instead of usb-storage? |
| 06:22.23 | roadfish | I have a hazy recollection that I can list all the drivers loaded into my kernel ... what was that command that lists those drivers? |
| 06:23.02 | roadfish | hmm, I hope I'm not use that low-performance drivers ... maybe I need to upgrade my system |
| 06:23.09 | fooz | there isn't really.. try cat /proc/devices or lsmod |
| 06:23.18 | fooz | no, you don't need to upgrade. you need to configure your kernel properly. |
| 06:23.21 | caphuso | roadfish: you are |
| 06:23.21 | roadfish | ah, lsmod |
| 06:23.40 | fooz | there are two USB disk drivers, ub and usb-storage |
| 06:23.50 | fooz | ub is slow and brain-damaged |
| 06:23.59 | fooz | usb-storage is fast and works right (but requires the SCSI layer) |
| 06:24.14 | caphuso | not actually brain-damaged, just not to be used by the majority of people |
| 06:24.26 | roadfish | ok, I did a grep on the lsmod output and got this line: |
| 06:24.26 | roadfish | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:24.41 | fooz | you have ub loaded (look elsewhere in the lsmod output) |
| 06:25.13 | roadfish | fooz: yes, I have stuff like ub, usbhid, usb_storage, and usbserial |
| 06:25.18 | fooz | try removing ub and loading usb-storage |
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| 06:25.23 | caphuso | fooz: hah |
| 06:25.31 | caphuso | roadfish: go recompile your kernel |
| 06:25.37 | fooz | caphuso, they're modules |
| 06:25.45 | caphuso | fooz: so? |
| 06:25.48 | fooz | so what? |
| 06:26.09 | caphuso | fooz: how does that matter? |
| 06:26.26 | fooz | he probably doesn't need, and probably shouldn't, compile his own kernel yet |
| 06:26.27 | roadfish | ok, how do remove/load modules? ... or is there some FAQ that I should read to get up to speed in this area? |
| 06:26.51 | caphuso | fooz: he probably already has and does need to |
| 06:26.53 | roadfish | caphuso: I concur with fooz ... compiling kernels scares me ;-( |
| 06:27.00 | fooz | caphuso, see |
| 06:27.05 | caphuso | roadfish: where did you get that kernel from? |
| 06:27.11 | roadfish | just call me roadchicken instead |
| 06:27.25 | roadfish | caphuso: I got the kernel during install |
| 06:27.36 | caphuso | roadfish: during install of what? |
| 06:27.45 | streuner | roadfish: cat /proc/version |
| 06:27.56 | fooz | i haven't used newbie docs and howtos in so long that I don't know which one discusses what modules are and how to use them |
| 06:28.08 | roadfish | Linux version 2.6.11 |
| 06:28.18 | streuner | no, tell us the full output |
| 06:28.54 | roadfish | Linux version 2.6.11 (root@Knoppix) (gcc-Version 3.3.5 (Debian 1:3.3.5-8)) #8 SMP Sun Mar 20 21:09:51 CET 2005 |
| 06:29.00 | caphuso | fuck |
| 06:29.03 | roadfish | I guess I'm running something pretty old |
| 06:29.11 | caphuso | roadfish: out of here. this isn't #knoppix |
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| 06:29.42 | caphuso | stupid piece of shit knoppix morons. why the hell do they turn on the ub driver? |
| 06:30.11 | caphuso | as dumb as their users |
| 06:30.27 | Bogaurd | Hmmm |
| 06:30.41 | Bogaurd | what's a good ircd/services combo nowadays? |
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| 06:31.35 | MrKrrtft | hi folks |
| 06:31.54 | MrKrrtft | I just did a fresh netinst of testing. What is the best way to get X and Gnome up and running? |
| 06:32.10 | dvs | MrKrrtft: apt-get install gnome |
| 06:32.22 | caphuso | apt-get install gnome x-window-system-core |
| 06:32.25 | MrKrrtft | dvs: does that get X installed also? |
| 06:32.31 | dvs | MrKrrtft: yes |
| 06:32.39 | MrKrrtft | hrm... |
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| 06:32.51 | caphuso | dvs: no, it doesn't |
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| 06:33.16 | MrKrrtft | ok. I didn't think so because gdm can't find the X server |
| 06:33.18 | MrKrrtft | hrm. |
| 06:33.26 | streuner | gnome metapackage doesn't install X |
| 06:33.31 | caphuso | MrKrrtft: install x-window-system-core |
| 06:33.36 | MrKrrtft | ah that's right |
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| 06:34.02 | MrKrrtft | so I should have apt-get install x-window-system-core ... then apt-get install gnome ? |
| 06:34.07 | caphuso | apt-get install gnome x-window-system-core |
| 06:34.23 | MrKrrtft | am i screwed if I installed gnome first by itself? |
| 06:34.24 | gravity | Just put both on the same line. It'll work. |
| 06:34.25 | caphuso | but you already have gnome installed, so you don't need to install it again |
| 06:34.29 | gravity | MrKrrtft: No, that's fine |
| 06:34.32 | caphuso | MrKrrtft: of course not |
| 06:34.46 | gravity | Gnome doesn't care. It pulled in the parts of X it needs and won't complain if you're missing the rest |
| 06:34.48 | MrKrrtft | kewl. thanks. I've had my hand held for so long with Mepis and Fedora Core that I forgot all this |
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| 06:36.32 | MrKrrtft | ok so install x-window-system-core, install gnome, then I should install the NVIDIA driver for my card? |
| 06:36.36 | Leroy | hello |
| 06:36.47 | gravity | MrKrrtft: Only if you need 3d accel. If not, then just use the nv driver |
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| 06:37.19 | MrKrrtft | gravity: oh ok. I thought you had too. |
| 06:37.25 | gravity | Nope |
| 06:37.44 | MrKrrtft | well 3d acccell would be nice :) I could play a few games on my lowly celeron system :) |
| 06:38.13 | gravity | It's up to you. I can't help you with that driver. |
| 06:38.43 | greyson | MTA suggestions: Quickly searchable? Any better than others? |
| 06:39.09 | MrKrrtft | gravity: I got it working on Fedora Core so I probably can get it working here. Thanks :) |
| 06:39.15 | gravity | greyson: exim and postfix. See what you like. |
| 06:39.50 | MrKrrtft | Question during X config: "Use kernel framebuffer device interface? Yes/No..... How should I answer? |
| 06:39.53 | greyson | gravity: Do they use mbox? Or something entirely different? |
| 06:39.56 | gravity | MrKrrtft: Say no |
| 06:40.19 | gravity | greyson: Yeah, mbox. I think they can use maildir too |
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| 06:44.21 | MrKrrtft | for X config with a USB MS Intellimouse, what mouse port should I use? |
| 06:44.35 | dvs | /dev/input/mice |
| 06:44.41 | MrKrrtft | thx |
| 06:44.43 | dvs | MrKrrtft: what kernel? |
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| 06:45.36 | MrKrrtft | 2.6.12 from default testing net install |
| 06:45.46 | dvs | MrKrrtft: Then /dev/input/mice is right |
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| 06:48.49 | MrKrrtft | Hey thanks for your help. I got into X :) |
| 06:48.55 | dvs | o_O |
| 06:49.00 | MrKrrtft | man... I learned a lot this time |
| 06:49.20 | dvs | Few newbies are able to do that so painlessly. |
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| 06:49.35 | MrKrrtft | my windows hdd died, I had a spare 40gig so I decided this was the time to take the full time plunge into Linux |
| 06:49.49 | MrKrrtft | I'm a not so new a newbie, been playing with Linux for about 6 years |
| 06:49.59 | MrKrrtft | but always had problems with my nvidia cards |
| 06:50.23 | MrKrrtft | i like using the testing netinst CD. It gets you a really lean system |
| 06:50.37 | Hobbes284 | i'm doing some research on web browser cookies and their relation to privacy rights, i need some more case references similar to in re doubleclick privacy litigation. does anyone know some other cases that reference this material? I knoq it ia kind of off-topic, but the debian community usually seems pretty legal-savvy |
| 06:51.09 | MrKrrtft | heh `df -h' shows I'm only using 5% ... Fedora Core had me at about 35% on a default install |
| 06:51.27 | MrKrrtft | brb |
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| 06:54.50 | MrKrrtft | l |
| 06:55.06 | MrKrrtft | *chuckle* ... my brain thought I was in a mud and I was trying to "look". |
| 06:55.20 | MrKrrtft | to see who was in the channel |
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| 06:57.19 | MrKrrtft | Firefox 1.5... is that only in sid right now? |
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| 06:57.43 | streuner | MrKrrtft: pdo would tell you |
| 06:57.53 | MrKrrtft | pdo? |
| 06:57.59 | streuner | !pdo |
| 06:58.00 | dpkg | http://packages.debian.org/ - here you can search for debian packages and their contents. Pretty Damned Obvious, isn't it?, or http://people.debian.org/, in some contexts. Maybe even http://planet.debian.org/ |
| 06:58.13 | MrKrrtft | ah |
| 06:58.48 | MrKrrtft | arg. scroll wheel isn't working. hrm ... what did I forget... |
| 06:59.51 | MrKrrtft | I didn't know about pdo. thanks :) |
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| 07:02.40 | streuner | Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2" |
| 07:03.36 | streuner | !mousewheel |
| 07:03.37 | dpkg | Info on using a mousewheel with many linux applications can be found at http://www.inria.fr/koala/colas/mouse-wheel-scroll/, or edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, go to the mouse section, change Protocol to IMPS/2 and add 'Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"' |
| 07:05.52 | MrKrrtft | cool thanks |
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| 07:07.17 | MrKrrtft | After I make those changes I need to restart X? |
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| 07:07.24 | streuner | yes |
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| 07:08.44 | MrKrrtft | brb |
| 07:09.34 | SerajewelKS | does qemu's default BIOS support ACPI? if not, is there a freely-available BIOS image that does? |
| 07:09.53 | caphuso | !mousewheel =~ s/Info/historical info/ |
| 07:09.53 | dpkg | OK, caphuso |
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| 07:11.55 | MrKrrtft | yay. mouse wheel works :) |
| 07:12.00 | MrKrrtft | thanks |
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| 07:13.32 | ultraviolet16 | hello channel.. I'm running gnome and I wanted to figure out how to change that splash debian image that comes on after you log in, anyone know how to? |
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| 07:14.06 | MrKrrtft | wow. the fonts are as crisp as they are on my Windows system. I have been trying to get this to happen for about 2 years |
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| 07:20.25 | streuner | ultraviolet16: there is a default png, use 'dpkg -L <package>' to search for..., IIRC |
| 07:21.17 | ultraviolet16 | streuner: i'm sorry i don't get what your saying.. |
| 07:22.23 | streuner | ultraviolet16: in some GNOME package is a default 'splash png image' - you can just change it |
| 07:22.40 | streuner | its not more |
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| 07:23.13 | streuner | UltraSub: i haven't GNOME installed, so you should search via 'dpkg -L package' |
| 07:24.16 | streuner | ultraviolet16: ^^^ |
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| 07:29.45 | MrKrrtft | !flash |
| 07:29.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, flash is If you want the flashplayer browser plugin, go to http://www.flash.com and follow the instructions there. Or look at the flashplugin-nonfree package, or most flash crap you see is from banner ads, and very little of it actual real and potentially interesting content. get yourself some object blocking/filtering extensions in your favourite browser, or missing fonts? install gsfonts-x11 |
| 07:30.08 | kingrayray | hey guys, um I just installed a few dev packages and now when I try to apt-get *anything* it gives me an error about a package that I installed earlier, and aborts. |
| 07:30.49 | kingrayray | failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `mono-mcs': Input/output error |
| 07:31.01 | kingrayray | I can't remove packages either. |
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| 07:33.17 | kingrayray | Anybody? :/ |
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| 07:36.41 | greyson | gravity: still there? |
| 07:37.11 | greyson | exim4 is installing very badly... badly behaved, doesn't pay attention to init.d scripts... |
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| 07:39.56 | kingrayray | failed in buffer_read(fd): files list for package `mono-mcs': Input/output error <- probably means part of my HD is b0rked huh :/ |
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| 07:40.04 | caphuso | kingrayray: possible |
| 07:40.29 | kingrayray | how would I test it? |
| 07:40.37 | kingrayray | fsck? |
| 07:40.59 | MrKrrtft | when installing Sun Java, where should I install it? /opt? |
| 07:41.12 | caphuso | kingrayray: start with smartctl |
| 07:41.20 | MrKrrtft | !java |
| 07:41.20 | dpkg | somebody said java was Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 07:41.37 | MrKrrtft | !install java |
| 07:41.37 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 07:41.39 | kingrayray | caphuso: hm. I don't have smartctl installed.. ? |
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| 07:41.52 | kingrayray | this is a fresh debian install, I was working on getting my apps and stuff going |
| 07:41.58 | caphuso | kingrayray: well, then guess what you have to do |
| 07:42.12 | kingrayray | repartition? rofl |
| 07:42.17 | MrKrrtft | !sources.list |
| 07:42.17 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
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| 07:43.29 | bouh | hi |
| 07:43.35 | MrKrrtft | After a fresh install what should I add to my sources.list? |
| 07:43.53 | eeaaxx | is there a way that i can test my Sarge installer? |
| 07:44.06 | Bluffbar | does someone here have an amd64 and a 32bit chroot |
| 07:44.31 | poop | I had one once. |
| 07:44.45 | poop | Now I run 32-bit sarge, because I'm sane again. |
| 07:44.58 | MrKrrtft | i just used the testing installer |
| 07:45.50 | Bluffbar | poop: whats wrong with the amd64 distro? Are you running debian under the same machine? |
| 07:45.52 | poop | MrKrr: base-config should prompt you to setup your sources.list |
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| 07:46.17 | kingrayray | how does fsck.ext -c work, does ist just tell the FS not to use blocks that are bad? (I'm unsure what the bad-blocks inode does) |
| 07:46.36 | kingrayray | er ext3* |
| 07:46.40 | poop | Bluff: IMO if you've got to do x86 you should get something out of it (like binary codecs, ndiswrapper, whatever else) |
| 07:47.04 | poop | Bluff: Debian amd64 doesn't do multiarch (as do other dists) |
| 07:47.44 | MrKrrtft | poop: thanks |
| 07:47.55 | Bluffbar | poop: so are you running a 32bit debian on a 64bit chip without probs? |
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| 07:48.17 | Bluffbar | poop: i know there shouldnt be - but i havnt tried it ;) |
| 07:49.16 | jcwong | bouh: are u a NUS student? |
| 07:50.02 | bouh | hey |
| 07:50.07 | bouh | yes I am |
| 07:50.13 | bouh | Oh my god |
| 07:50.16 | bouh | I was I mean |
| 07:50.44 | jcwong | bouh: I'm your Lecturer :) |
| 07:50.45 | eeaaxx | is there a way that i can test my Sarge CD installer? |
| 07:50.54 | bouh | which one? |
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| 07:50.58 | bouh | lol |
| 07:51.28 | ma3x | IF I do dd if=/dev/zero of=temp to my 250 GB HDD, and I get no errors, does it mean its alright? |
| 07:52.14 | bouh | Sorry, I hope we are not misunderstanding, I was an exchange sudent in NUS |
| 07:52.28 | Bluffbar | poop: no wait it isnt clear to me - isnt it impossible to install a 32bit distro an a 64bit chip? |
| 07:52.40 | jcwong | bouh: cool, where u from? :) |
| 07:53.00 | bouh | from france |
| 07:53.10 | bouh | (I am gonna be flamed :D ) |
| 07:53.45 | poop | Bluff: AMD64 is a superset of x86. |
| 07:53.48 | bouh | what subject do you teach at NUS? |
| 07:54.09 | jcwong | bouh: Bonjour! |
| 07:54.25 | poop | wee wee! |
| 07:54.40 | bouh | oui bonjour a tous :) |
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| 07:56.10 | Bluffbar | bouh: french eh... as a german i am much more internationally accepted and can now look down on you ;) |
| 07:56.49 | bouh | Manchmal, sage ich auch dass ich deutsch bin :) |
| 07:58.08 | Bluffbar | bouh: bilingual and learnt englisch? |
| 07:58.56 | bouh | I just spent 8 month in germany |
| 07:59.19 | bouh | now since I live in singapore I enjoy the possibility to learn english and chinease |
| 07:59.22 | bouh | chinese |
| 07:59.33 | Bluffbar | bough: ok so your french. ? |
| 07:59.39 | bouh | yes |
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| 08:00.18 | bouh | pure french; but very open-minded |
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| 08:01.09 | sfullenwider | Anyone in here live near Hemel Hempstead, Hertfordshire, UK? |
| 08:01.10 | bouh | jcwong: I am still curious? Did you guess I was in NUS from my IP ? |
| 08:01.29 | dimm0k | when i start up kde, it restores the volume to 50% instead of whatever i had it last... is there a way to change this? |
| 08:01.52 | jcwong | bouh: open minded in what sense? What naked in the MRT? :) |
| 08:01.53 | Bluffbar | poop: ok i just decided to go for a 32bit version since your right the extra hassle really is not worth it and my current installation is about 2 hours old... ;) |
| 08:02.27 | bouh | jcwong: especially in the MRT ;) |
| 08:02.41 | jcwong | bouh: nope, from the hostname, look like you're on local isp maxonline? |
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| 08:02.51 | bouh | indeed |
| 08:03.17 | Bluffbar | jcwong: MRT? |
| 08:03.28 | bouh | MRT Mass Rapid Transport |
| 08:03.46 | jcwong | Bluffbar: that's sg skytrain. |
| 08:03.46 | bouh | the singaporean subway in other terms |
| 08:04.08 | bouh | or skytrain :) depends of the location.... |
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| 08:04.45 | liable | irc'ing on the subway? |
| 08:05.04 | bouh | hi liable ... always there my god :) |
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| 08:06.06 | liable | hi :) |
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| 08:09.40 | l0rd_Marduk | tem algum brasileiro ai |
| 08:09.59 | liable | !br |
| 08:09.59 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 08:10.09 | l0rd_Marduk | lool |
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| 08:10.20 | l0rd_Marduk | dpkg: _|_ |
| 08:10.22 | l0rd_Marduk | fuck you |
| 08:10.29 | l0rd_Marduk | liable |
| 08:10.30 | l0rd_Marduk | fuck |
| 08:10.31 | l0rd_Marduk | you |
| 08:10.36 | l0rd_Marduk | your newbie |
| 08:10.38 | liable | thanks |
| 08:10.43 | liable | !ops l0rd_Marduk troll |
| 08:10.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: l0rd_Marduk troll |
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| 08:14.01 | Bluffbar | has anyone here tried gentoo? i mean it has its benefits but debian is still like heaven against it |
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| 08:14.14 | kingrayray | Bluffbar: I just switched to debian from gentoo |
| 08:14.15 | kingrayray | =) |
| 08:14.18 | kingrayray | er |
| 08:14.19 | kingrayray | from gentoo |
| 08:14.20 | kingrayray | to debian |
| 08:14.21 | kingrayray | lol :D |
| 08:14.29 | kingrayray | yeah. |
| 08:14.33 | SerajewelKS | !tell kingrayray about enter |
| 08:14.41 | kingrayray | sorry |
| 08:16.11 | Bluffbar | action gives kingrayray a strong coffee |
| 08:16.19 | kingrayray | :) |
| 08:16.45 | Bluffbar | ok |
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| 08:17.11 | kingrayray | what's up? |
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| 08:24.19 | SirReality | is this #ubuntu? |
| 08:24.21 | SirReality | jk jk |
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| 08:28.28 | Maakuth | SirReality, nope |
| 08:28.35 | ma3x | anyone around? |
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| 08:28.49 | Maakuth | yep |
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| 08:29.02 | SirReality | ok i thought for a second it might be ;-) |
| 08:29.02 | liable | !fable |
| 08:29.02 | dpkg | from memory, fable is http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/TheFable |
| 08:29.02 | ma3x | how do I fully test my harddrive? |
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| 08:29.52 | ma3x | I've tried dd if=/dev/zero of=/media/externalusbdrive/temp |
| 08:29.59 | ma3x | and I didn't get any errors, it went fine |
| 08:30.05 | ma3x | does that mean all blocks are ok now? |
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| 08:30.10 | Maakuth | try badblocks |
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| 08:30.21 | ma3x | Maakuth, with what switchoptions? |
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| 08:30.37 | kingrayray | wheni do badblocks I get a ton of driveread seekcomplete errors or something :( |
| 08:30.38 | Bluffbar | ma3x: dl software from the hd manufacturers |
| 08:30.44 | kingrayray | so I'm working on that atm |
| 08:30.44 | kingrayray | :D |
| 08:30.51 | Maakuth | badblocks /dev/yourdisk |
| 08:30.52 | ma3x | Bluffbar, they don't have for mine, it's external USB |
| 08:31.03 | kingrayray | Maakuth: should that be done while unmounted? |
| 08:31.05 | ma3x | wht most of the manufacters have is a file which creates a bood floppy disk |
| 08:31.11 | ma3x | but on boot my usb hard drive won't be found |
| 08:31.19 | Maakuth | kingrayray, i guess so |
| 08:31.20 | ma3x | Maakuth, that will perform read only test |
| 08:31.23 | ma3x | you think its enough? |
| 08:32.09 | Maakuth | badblocks -n seems to be non-destructive rw mode |
| 08:32.17 | ma3x | but I mean if dd can write to the disk till it's last MByte, then I could copy/delete do whatever I want in that partition without errors, right? |
| 08:33.10 | Maakuth | hmm-m |
| 08:33.21 | ma3x | If I send my hard drive NOW to the manufacter (because it is still under warranty), then they will send me a new one possibly, and what if that hard drive gets badblocks with the time? |
| 08:33.42 | ma3x | I mean the warranty will end one day |
| 08:33.56 | ma3x | so what the hell, are hard drives made to last only half an year or what? |
| 08:34.04 | Maakuth | well, hard drives are mechanical devices, so they wear out slowly |
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| 08:34.13 | liable | thats a pessimistic way of looking at it.. |
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| 08:35.02 | Maakuth | but they definitely should last longer than half a year or something |
| 08:35.23 | ma3x | but even if they last for 2 years, it doesn't pay off |
| 08:35.41 | ma3x | I mean one hard drive, you buy it for $200, and then it wears out in a year or so |
| 08:36.25 | Maakuth | that's why you should by drives with 5y warranty, and install them as a raid |
| 08:36.31 | Maakuth | RAID |
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| 08:37.11 | Maakuth | and buy |
| 08:37.13 | ma3x | what is raid exactly? |
| 08:37.22 | ma3x | Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks? |
| 08:37.26 | Maakuth | yep |
| 08:37.45 | Maakuth | bunch of drives which act like only one |
| 08:38.10 | ma3x | and they cost a little bit more? |
| 08:38.22 | Maakuth | no, you can use ordinary disks |
| 08:38.25 | ma3x | external hard drives, right? |
| 08:38.29 | Guerin | ma3x: they cost as much as as many drives you put in |
| 08:38.44 | Guerin | ma3x: you need to look this up on wikipedia |
| 08:38.59 | ma3x | yes Guerin I will right away |
| 08:39.09 | Maakuth | well, you can do it with external drives, but it's not so handy, since you have to carry all the drives with you :) |
| 08:39.26 | ma3x | Maakuth, for me caring is not the problem, as I don't take it anywhere with me |
| 08:39.40 | ma3x | but I don't have a desktop machine, so I cannot afford any internal drive |
| 08:39.45 | Maakuth | but when talking about hard drives, one should never forget that they WILL broke up, it's just a matter of time |
| 08:39.46 | ma3x | only option for me is external |
| 08:39.59 | ma3x | Maakuth, always? |
| 08:40.05 | Maakuth | yes |
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| 08:40.46 | ma3x | so the average life time of a harddrive would be 2 years |
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| 08:41.14 | Maakuth | i don't know about the average life |
| 08:41.25 | ma3x | Guerin, do you have raid? |
| 08:41.45 | Maakuth | you should buy old desktop computer, 300mhz machine or something, and install disks to that |
| 08:42.39 | Guerin | ma3x: no. |
| 08:42.43 | Maakuth | that would be probably cheapest solution if you want sure solution |
| 08:42.44 | ma3x | Guerin, what? |
| 08:42.49 | Maakuth | i do have |
| 08:42.51 | Guerin | ma3x: no. |
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| 08:42.55 | ma3x | oh ok, you don't have raid |
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| 08:43.42 | ma3x | is it not possible to put the raid's into one external case, and hook them up by usb or firewire? |
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| 08:44.17 | Maakuth | maybe it is, but it's not easy |
| 08:44.22 | tictac | ma3x: there are cases that do it, yes. i believe they are scsi however. |
| 08:44.39 | ma3x | tictac, I think so too, scsi |
| 08:45.21 | ma3x | I would like to check how exactly works this usb external drive |
| 08:45.29 | ma3x | but I can't open it to see, will break the warranty |
| 08:45.35 | Bluffbar | if the kernel im trying to install debian with does not have die module sata_uli how can i detect my sata2 hd? where can i find a install cd with a kernel that has that module? |
| 08:45.36 | tictac | fuck the warranty. |
| 08:45.42 | tictac | if the drive dies, buy another one. |
| 08:45.47 | ma3x | I think inside is one hard disk, scsi? |
| 08:46.01 | ma3x | tictac, I just bought it in June |
| 08:46.10 | ma3x | I can't buy every 6 months another one |
| 08:46.11 | tictac | thats a while |
| 08:46.25 | tictac | pfft. |
| 08:46.38 | ma3x | if it was possible to put inside the chasis another hard drive I would do so |
| 08:46.39 | Maakuth | but building a file server from old pc and bunch of disks is cheap and not too hard solution |
| 08:46.50 | Maakuth | of course it's easier to just buy a disk and plug it in |
| 08:46.52 | ma3x | otherwise if I had to buy completly another one with cables, etc... that's too expensive |
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| 08:47.01 | ma3x | Maakuth, and what kind of disk would that be? |
| 08:47.18 | tictac | ma3x: the drive inside an external case is ALWAYS a normal 3.5/2.5 drive. |
| 08:47.27 | ma3x | scsi, ide? |
| 08:47.29 | streuner | ma3x: harddisks die, that's just *NORMAL* |
| 08:47.50 | Maakuth | ma3x, ? |
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| 08:48.19 | ma3x | Maakuth, is that a scsi or ide disk? |
| 08:48.30 | Maakuth | what? |
| 08:48.34 | ma3x | the drive inside |
| 08:48.36 | tengulre | hi,all! What's WiKi mean? |
| 08:48.52 | ma3x | wikipedia the free encyclopedia |
| 08:48.56 | streuner | ma3x: SCSI is compared to IDE very expensive - in most cases IDE is just enough... |
| 08:49.02 | SimonRaven | uh, no |
| 08:49.05 | SimonRaven | !wiki |
| 08:49.15 | SimonRaven | !dict wiki |
| 08:49.17 | dpkg | could not find definition for wiki |
| 08:49.20 | ma3x | streuner, so the hard drive that I have inside the chasis now is IDE with scsi emulation, right? |
| 08:49.24 | Maakuth | inside what? inside that cheap pc? that would be ide or scsi or sata, it's up to you. but i don't know about official external drives |
| 08:49.26 | SimonRaven | dumbass bot |
| 08:49.32 | streuner | ma3x: no |
| 08:49.38 | SimonRaven | @dict wiki |
| 08:49.41 | ravenbird | could not find definition for wiki |
| 08:49.48 | streuner | ma3x: not for HD's |
| 08:49.50 | SimonRaven | dumbass bot #2 |
| 08:49.59 | hellish | When updating to 2.6.14, dpkg complains "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool... in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs" even though yaird is installed, latest and appears to be working. What gives? |
| 08:50.27 | SimonRaven | IIRC, the word wiki wiki means talking, in hawaiian |
| 08:50.39 | streuner | ma3x: you could use SCSI emulation for CD(RW)'s, but that's almost historic, the newer kernels just use ATAPI |
| 08:51.05 | SirReality | a wiki is a collaborative writing tool in which anyone can edit a webpage's content |
| 08:51.40 | Bluffbar | where can i pick a netinstall cd with a certain kernel to dl? |
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| 08:52.00 | SimonRaven | Bluffbar: it asks you at the end |
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| 08:52.50 | mhall | !kde3.5 |
| 08:52.50 | dpkg | KDE 3.4 not new enough for you? 3.5 was released a matter of days ago, and it's not in debian. Ask #debian-kde, they might have ideas. |
| 08:53.04 | ma3x | and in raid, how is the one drive connected to the other, just via master/slave? |
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| 08:53.20 | Bluffbar | SimonRaven: no i mean that has a certain kernel to install with |
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| 08:53.37 | Maakuth | mhall, http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/ or something |
| 08:53.39 | SimonRaven | the cds have boot options |
| 08:53.39 | shark_ | hi, is there a way to see what's the current frequency of the cpu/ram and stuff pls ? |
| 08:53.49 | SimonRaven | read the install guide or the help on the cd |
| 08:53.56 | streuner | ma3x: software-RAID doesn't care how you connect your HD to the mobo |
| 08:54.11 | tictac | shark_: /proc/cpuinfo /proc/meminfo |
| 08:54.27 | Eclipser | meminfo doesn't tell what the ram frequency is :p |
| 08:54.31 | shark_ | it doesnt display the current motherboard frequency |
| 08:54.44 | mhall | Maakuth: was in topic of #debian-kde it turned out |
| 08:54.50 | mhall | Maakuth: apt-get updating as we speak ;-) |
| 08:54.54 | shark_ | cpuinfo only display various informations about the current cpu(s) |
| 08:54.57 | Maakuth | ok :) |
| 08:55.04 | Maakuth | mhall, so did i, it works perfectly fine |
| 08:55.10 | shark_ | i wanted a tool like aida32 but for linux |
| 08:55.10 | ma3x | streuner, I mean how you connect the 1st drive to the 2nd in the raid? |
| 08:55.18 | mhall | alright, i'm fuckin tired but i don't want to go into here and get help without giving back to the channel too |
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| 08:55.32 | mhall | so who's got something that's totally fucked up and needs a hand before they go insane |
| 08:55.44 | Maakuth | ma3x, you don't have to connect the drives to each other, only to mobo |
| 08:55.57 | Maakuth | then you set up linux to create RAID device from them |
| 08:56.34 | SimonRaven | ma3x: raid howto at www.tldp.org. the new one (the one with the more recent date) |
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| 08:57.26 | ma3x | Maakuth, what I'm wondering, is if raid can be achieved via external usb drive |
| 08:57.36 | mhall | Maakuth: Fetched 109MB in 1m8s (1595kB/s |
| 08:57.45 | ma3x | i.e. first hard drive is the external USB drive, then I attach disks to that |
| 08:57.53 | mhall | Maakuth: got to love the 80 mbit fiber connection |
| 08:58.11 | mhall | Maakuth: from mirrors2.kernel.org i get maybe 2.5 megabytes per sec |
| 08:58.21 | tengulre | hi,all |
| 08:58.39 | Eclipser | mhall, I love my 100Mbit too |
| 08:58.55 | mhall | ma3x: well the usb drives come up as scsi disks |
| 08:58.57 | Maakuth | ma3x, well, you can connect many usb-drives to your pc and create a raid from them |
| 08:58.59 | mhall | ma3x: so you _could_ do it |
| 08:59.08 | mhall | ma3x: whether it's a good idea is a different question |
| 08:59.19 | Maakuth | mhall, damn you, i have 1,5MBit dsl here :D |
| 08:59.20 | mhall | ma3x: i've never heard whether it was or not |
| 08:59.27 | mhall | ma3x: yeah i have that at home |
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| 08:59.59 | mhall | ack |
| 09:00.04 | mhall | Maakuth: yeah i have that at home |
| 09:00.12 | mhall | Eclipser: ah sweet how did you score that |
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| 09:00.27 | mhall | Eclipser: apparently our link can do up to 200 but we just don't pay for all of it |
| 09:00.27 | Eclipser | mhall, university network :p |
| 09:00.45 | mhall | Eclipser: they keep upping bandwidth as prices go down and the budget for it improves |
| 09:00.47 | Eclipser | the network is 1Gbit I think, but we're only allowed 100Mbit... |
| 09:00.56 | mhall | Eclipser: oof you're gettin the shat |
| 09:01.00 | mhall | Eclipser: shaft |
| 09:01.25 | mhall | i guess it must be something about the finns, always messin up the bandwidth |
| 09:01.32 | Eclipser | hehe |
| 09:01.43 | Guerin | yeah, because you have a legitimate use for 100 megabit internet |
| 09:01.47 | Guerin | hell |
| 09:01.47 | ma3x | Maakuth, if I buy another usb drive, it's gonna cost me fortune for those cables and adaptors..etc.... is it possible to attach a normal 3.5/2.5 drive to that external usb? |
| 09:01.53 | mhall | which is kind of bs because it's supposed to be the most techie country |
| 09:02.02 | Maakuth | ma3x, no |
| 09:02.12 | mhall | Guerin: hey man life is too short to leave transoceanic fiber dark |
| 09:02.13 | Guerin | even *I* can't saturate my 100 megabit, and I'm the seedmaster for a bittorrent release group |
| 09:02.18 | Eclipser | mhall, 99% of the people here really know nothing of tech :p |
| 09:02.19 | mhall | Guerin: what a bunch of crap |
| 09:03.24 | Maakuth | ma3x, as i told, cheapest and probably the best solution would be building a file server from old hardware (except new disks).. you can use cheap ide-disks and cheap old hardware, and get fast and reliable file server |
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| 09:03.35 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: got it, that worked, thanks :) |
| 09:03.37 | Guerin | mhall: teh trues |
| 09:04.03 | Maakuth | Guerin, of course you only release linux isos? ;) |
| 09:04.15 | blunted | yo dog |
| 09:04.21 | blunted | lemme holler at you on that 0day |
| 09:04.28 | mhall | Maakuth: naturally |
| 09:04.33 | blunted | i got quotas to fill |
| 09:04.36 | blunted | and stuff |
| 09:04.42 | Guerin | Maakuth: sports matches, for expats who can't watch them any other way. |
| 09:04.54 | Maakuth | ok |
| 09:05.03 | ma3x | Maakuth, and then from my running machine to that old fileserver I copy over the lan? |
| 09:05.18 | Maakuth | ma3x, yep |
| 09:05.32 | Maakuth | or you could put firewire between them |
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| 09:05.47 | Maakuth | that's also possible, and damn fast |
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| 09:06.09 | Maakuth | but lan is more flexible of course, and you don't have to have that server right next to your laptop |
| 09:07.21 | Brox | i dled the newest netinstall cd from debian.org but even if i boot it with linux26 it does not have the sata_uli module. How can i make sure that the netinstall i dl has that module?? |
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| 09:08.24 | mhall | Maakuth: USB2? |
| 09:08.30 | mhall | Maakuth: GigE |
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| 09:08.42 | Maakuth | mhall, well i'd suggest gigabit ethernet |
| 09:08.42 | mhall | Maakuth: GigE is pretty fast and cheap these days |
| 09:08.46 | Maakuth | yep |
| 09:08.50 | Maakuth | and fast |
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| 09:08.51 | mhall | Maakuth: wire up an 8 pin cross cable |
| 09:08.57 | mhall | Maakuth: and it will go wicked quick |
| 09:08.59 | Maakuth | faster than your RAID probably would be |
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| 09:09.07 | mhall | Maakuth: yeah that shit's insane |
| 09:09.16 | Maakuth | and that's of course good :) |
| 09:09.22 | ma3x | Maakuth, and you think I can open my laptop and upgrade the ethernet card to Gigabit? |
| 09:09.25 | mhall | Maakuth: they had to develop 10 and 15k drives and multi-level RAID to keep up with the bitch |
| 09:09.35 | mhall | ma3x: lol PCMCIA? |
| 09:09.36 | Maakuth | ma3x, buy pcmcia one |
| 09:09.48 | Maakuth | mhall, :) |
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| 09:09.54 | mhall | ma3x: they sell them for a decent price at fry's electronics when they go on sale |
| 09:10.01 | Maakuth | well the laptop hdd would be the bottleneck |
| 09:10.04 | mhall | Maakuth: yeah i know this one guy who works at a gov't lab |
| 09:10.09 | ma3x | mhall, my pcmcia has already wlan |
| 09:10.16 | mhall | Maakuth: and they get 1 TB of data per experiment |
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| 09:10.23 | Maakuth | cool |
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| 09:10.55 | mhall | Maakuth: so they set up a RAID 0 stripe across about 20 RAID 5 arrays with hot spare and 15 live drives each |
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| 09:11.06 | mhall | Maakuth: horribly insanely ridiculously fast |
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| 09:11.20 | mhall | Maakuth: they put 4x 10GbE bonded interface with fiber |
| 09:11.30 | Maakuth | dear god |
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| 09:11.40 | mhall | Maakuth: and the drives are 10k units |
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| 09:11.57 | Maakuth | okay, fast enough i guess |
| 09:12.06 | mhall | Maakuth: the best part, it has das blinkenlights |
| 09:12.19 | mhall | Maakuth: every drive blinks every time it reads or writes |
| 09:12.33 | Maakuth | :) |
| 09:12.34 | mhall | Maakuth: so when they were cleaning it one time and took off the panels they got a pic |
| 09:12.39 | mhall | Maakuth: lol |
| 09:12.41 | ma3x | mhall, what for you need so fast? You can't download anything but from the lan |
| 09:12.54 | mhall | ma3x: i don't have that setup |
| 09:13.01 | Maakuth | 11:10 < mhall> Maakuth: and they get 1 TB of data per experiment |
| 09:13.04 | ma3x | I mean if you have that download, there has to be so fast upload too, or vice versa |
| 09:13.06 | mhall | ma3x: it was at a government lab that got a TB per experiment |
| 09:13.25 | ma3x | mhall, great for them |
| 09:13.34 | mhall | ma3x: yeah i wish i had one of them |
| 09:13.43 | mhall | ma3x: but if i went there to steal it i would be shot on sight |
| 09:13.47 | mhall | literally |
| 09:13.50 | mhall | with M16s |
| 09:14.13 | ma3x | you ain't in Turkey right? |
| 09:14.21 | Maakuth | hah |
| 09:14.39 | mhall | ma3x: might as well be if they got to me |
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| 09:14.54 | mhall | i'd make like a turkey and gobble lead slugs |
| 09:15.00 | ma3x | I mean m16's, they're only allowed in turkey |
| 09:15.07 | mhall | that'd be one hell of a christmas dinner |
| 09:15.12 | mhall | ma3x: dude it's the US gov't |
| 09:15.20 | mhall | ma3x: they could do whatever the hell they want |
| 09:15.30 | mhall | ma3x: except keep Iraq under control |
| 09:15.35 | mhall | ma3x: lol! |
| 09:15.37 | ma3x | haha |
| 09:15.52 | ma3x | hey what happened with saddam? |
| 09:16.00 | mhall | still trying to do the trial |
| 09:16.07 | ma3x | he's boycotting it |
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| 09:16.09 | mhall | but two of his attorneys were assasinated |
| 09:16.22 | ma3x | assasinated? |
| 09:16.22 | mhall | i can't blame them, the US let his attorneys get murdered |
| 09:16.23 | ma3x | holy shit |
| 09:16.29 | mhall | and would not give them decent security |
| 09:16.37 | mhall | i'd boycott that shit too if my life was on the line |
| 09:17.04 | SerajewelKS | what person in their right mind would be saddam's attorney |
| 09:17.13 | ma3x | hehe. In Europe - Hague they welcomed another guest |
| 09:18.02 | ma3x | SerajewelKS, whats wrong with that? you see the news and you know |
| 09:18.25 | pngwn | it's way off topic in here |
| 09:18.30 | mhall | yeah this shit happened twice |
| 09:18.31 | mhall | http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20051109/REPOSITORY/511090367/1037/NEWS04 |
| 09:18.37 | mhall | that was one of the times |
| 09:18.43 | SerajewelKS | ma3x: know what |
| 09:18.57 | mhall | SerajewelKS say what you want he deserves a right to a fair trial |
| 09:19.08 | mhall | SerajewelKS: otherwise the rest of us are no better than he is |
| 09:19.09 | SerajewelKS | mhall: i'm not denying that |
| 09:19.17 | SerajewelKS | mhall: just saying, who would want to be his attorney =) |
| 09:19.25 | mhall | SerajewelKS: fair enough just making sure |
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| 09:20.10 | SerajewelKS | you're basically asking to be assassinated. not that they should be, of course, but still. |
| 09:20.50 | mhall | the thing i couldn't figure out is why you'd want to cap saddam's attorneys |
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| 09:21.00 | mhall | it would make sense to pick off the prosecutors |
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| 09:21.09 | mhall | but why saddam's lawyers |
| 09:21.12 | mhall | i don't get it |
| 09:21.25 | SerajewelKS | mhall: i suspect that it was an american who did that. killing the people who would be defending saddam. |
| 09:21.26 | ma3x | why? prolly they're his best people |
| 09:21.38 | ma3x | they would defend him well |
| 09:22.38 | streuner | mhall: you know what ethic the jugde is? ;-) |
| 09:22.49 | mhall | streuner: do tell |
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| 09:23.02 | streuner | kurdish... |
| 09:23.10 | SerajewelKS | streuner: that's "ethnicity" |
| 09:23.10 | mhall | streuner: lol that's funny |
| 09:23.18 | ma3x | streuner, are the yfriendly with the iraq's ? |
| 09:23.22 | mhall | SerajewelKS: he's a german cut him some slack |
| 09:23.36 | SerajewelKS | ma3x: no, they hate iraquis |
| 09:23.45 | SerajewelKS | mhall: hehe |
| 09:24.00 | SerajewelKS | ma3x: saddam persecuted the kurds to no end |
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| 09:24.36 | SerajewelKS | we need a #debian-politics |
| 09:25.00 | mhall | SerajewelKS: #debian-offtopic is already here |
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| 09:25.16 | mhall | SerajewelKS: but i don't feel bad about ranting here a bit when nobody has a debian question |
| 09:25.19 | SerajewelKS | mhall: well specific to politicy |
| 09:25.23 | SerajewelKS | politics too |
| 09:25.27 | mhall | SerajewelKS: nobody has asked one for perhaps more than 10 min |
| 09:25.45 | SerajewelKS | mhall: well if you want to do some digging for me, i have a hardware question =) |
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| 09:26.00 | mhall | since :09 minutes past the hour in fact |
| 09:26.04 | mhall | SerajewelKS: shoot! |
| 09:26.21 | SerajewelKS | i bought a wireless card.. the ndiswrapper driver works fine |
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| 09:26.33 | mhall | but it sucks becuase it's ndiswrapper |
| 09:26.35 | mhall | i hear you |
| 09:26.35 | SerajewelKS | but i want to use monitor mode, so i tried the acx100 driver, and it doesn't work |
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| 09:26.47 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah i tried the acx100 driver too |
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| 09:26.55 | SerajewelKS | what model do you have? |
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| 09:27.03 | mhall | SerajewelKS: it's a horrible hack beta driver because they don't have specs |
| 09:27.14 | mhall | SerajewelKS: so my understanding is they reversed it. all of it. |
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| 09:27.33 | mhall | SerajewelKS: i had the PCI card variety |
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| 09:27.40 | mhall | SerajewelKS: i gave up and snagged an atheros |
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| 09:27.42 | SerajewelKS | mhall: well, yeah |
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| 09:27.45 | mhall | SerajewelKS: madwifi |
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| 09:27.53 | SerajewelKS | mine's an airport or something like that |
| 09:27.59 | SerajewelKS | i don't remember the name |
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| 09:28.02 | mhall | SerajewelKS: mine came from fry's |
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| 09:28.12 | SerajewelKS | lspci just says 'Network controller: Texas Instruments ACX 111 54Mbps Wireless Interface' |
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| 09:28.31 | SerajewelKS | !ops 85.107.168.73 joinflooding |
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| 09:28.51 | mhall | SerajewelKS: damn these fuckers |
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| 09:29.02 | SerajewelKS | mhall: yeh got mine at fry's too |
| 09:29.09 | SerajewelKS | mhall: we probably got the exact same card :> |
| 09:29.12 | mhall | SerajewelKS: hehehe great minds think alike |
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| 09:29.28 | SerajewelKS | mhall: it was the cheapest PCI wireless card they had |
| 09:29.29 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah i tried to get that little bastard to work; finally rolled over and got the 108 atheros card |
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| 09:29.50 | mhall | SerajewelKS: every few ads they have the 108 on sale |
| 09:29.58 | mhall | SerajewelKS: hold out for it and pay the extra couple of bucks |
| 09:30.08 | mhall | SerajewelKS: because the atheros one is supported by atheros |
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| 09:30.28 | SerajewelKS | mhall: it was an airlinkplus AWLH3025 |
| 09:30.32 | SerajewelKS | mhall: s/was/is/ |
| 09:30.40 | mhall | SerajewelKS: yeah lemme look it sounds familiar |
| 09:30.48 | jbmigel | im trying to move my system from old hda to new sda can I just copy files and fix fstab do you think or do all the file permissions get messed up?? |
| 09:30.54 | SerajewelKS | mhall: on the acx100 matrix it lists "?" for supported |
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| 09:31.49 | mhall | SerajewelKS: it didn't work when i tried it in auguse |
| 09:31.56 | SerajewelKS | mhall: http://195.66.192.167/linux/acx100/acx111_airlinkplus_awlh3025/photo_ok/DSCN0583_.jpg |
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| 09:32.49 | jbmigel | suppose i would also have to fix grub aswell |
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| 09:33.03 | rohan | hi all |
| 09:33.12 | rohan | how many mb does debootstrap download ? |
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| 09:33.13 | liable | jbmigel: yes |
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| 09:33.24 | SerajewelKS | !ops now 81.214.122.48 is joinflooding |
| 09:33.24 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: now 81.214.122.48 is joinflooding |
| 09:33.34 | liable | jbmigel: /msg dpkg hard drive upgrade |
| 09:33.47 | caphuso | SerajewelKS: /help ignore |
| 09:34.28 | rohan | is debootstrap a recomended way ? or i should install using the cd ? |
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| 09:34.40 | jbmigel | thanks liable this looks perfect! |
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| 09:35.00 | liable | jbmigel: np, doesnt deal with grub though. |
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| 09:35.23 | jbmigel | thats ok i can fake it |
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| 09:37.19 | rohan | heh, no one has installed debian using "debootstrap" heere ? |
| 09:37.37 | SimonRaven | no, no ever has |
| 09:37.45 | rohan | lol |
| 09:37.46 | rohan | :( |
| 09:38.05 | SimonRaven | </facetious> |
| 09:38.11 | jbmigel | I suggest the cd :P |
| 09:38.11 | rohan | why cant i know how many mbs will it download :( |
| 09:38.15 | rohan | jbmigel: why ? |
| 09:38.57 | rafx | is it possible to clear out all the old CLOSE_WAIT entries showing up on netstat? i still have CLOSE_WAIT on my old dynamic ip addresses |
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| 09:39.14 | jbmigel | cuz then you will get the installer, it will do all the work for you, I think you can get network install cd that only get the min MBs needed |
| 09:39.23 | rohan | jbmigel: ok. |
| 09:39.24 | vulture | rafx: not that I know of.. why do you want to? |
| 09:40.25 | rafx | they eat up space and make it hard to read relevant entries (forces me to pipe to grep) |
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| 09:45.31 | SimonRaven | ohnoz |
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| 09:46.47 | SimonRaven | be a grep barbie; piping to grep is so HARD! let's go shopping |
| 09:47.25 | dorto | when i run fsck on my debian root partition, it reports the error: "not ext2 filesystem or superblock corrupted" and asks me to provide alternate superblock using -b switch |
| 09:47.41 | dorto | how can i find the alternate superblock number? |
| 09:47.46 | mhall | dorto: try 8192 |
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| 09:47.54 | mhall | dorto: and 16384 |
| 09:47.54 | dorto | k |
| 09:48.11 | mhall | dorto: btw wtf occurred |
| 09:48.48 | dorto | hehe |
| 09:48.58 | dorto | my bootloader doesn't get loaded |
| 09:49.03 | mhall | dorto: ? |
| 09:49.06 | dorto | i get some error 24 from grub |
| 09:49.27 | dorto | last time i got such an error, i booted using knoppix |
| 09:49.36 | dorto | fscked the / |
| 09:49.45 | dorto | chrooted and grub-installed |
| 09:49.58 | mhall | dorto: 24 : "Cannot boot without kernel loaded" |
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| 09:50.03 | dorto | this time fsck is not fixing the file system errors |
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| 09:50.10 | mhall | dorto: This error is returned if GRUB is told to execute the boot sequence without having a kernel to start. |
| 09:50.28 | dorto | hmmm |
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| 09:51.11 | dorto | with 8192 and 16384, fsck complains 'bad magic number in superblock' |
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| 09:51.42 | dorto | i am not able to mount /dev/hda10 from knoppix |
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| 09:52.11 | dorto | so there is some problem with that partition. badblocks reported 0 bad blocks |
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| 09:55.24 | mhall | hmm |
| 09:55.27 | mhall | weird |
| 09:56.00 | mhall | dorto: http://wiki.suselinuxsupport.de/wikka.php?wakka=HowToFindabackupsuperblock |
| 09:56.06 | mhall | dorto: full directions to try |
| 09:56.17 | mhall | dorto: good luck; time for bed here as it's 4 min to 2 am |
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| 09:56.31 | dorto | wow, what a url!! |
| 09:56.35 | dorto | thx and goodnight :) |
| 09:56.41 | mhall | yes sorry it's so weird |
| 09:56.49 | mhall | wikis do this sometimes :-/ |
| 09:56.57 | dorto | yep :) |
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| 09:58.39 | ma3x | If there is ATA drive inside my current external drive, can I replace it with IDE or it must be ATA again? |
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| 10:02.55 | DevilChaos | hi |
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| 10:04.22 | Denn | ma3x that depends on the external drive, can it handle IDE or not |
| 10:05.03 | ma3x | Denn, I don't know that either. Maxtor does not provide information about the chasis of the drive |
| 10:05.09 | ma3x | it says only that the hard drive is ata-133 |
| 10:05.55 | DevilChaos | anyone use nvidia in here with xorg need to know if it works well and what driver it uses please? |
| 10:05.57 | Denn | I don't think it can handle IDE then. |
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| 10:07.47 | rend | can tail -f run across multiple files at once? |
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| 10:09.15 | ma3x | Many terms and synonyms for ATA exist, including abbreviations such as IDE, ATAPI, and UDMA. |
| 10:10.02 | M_Cheevy | evening ppls... okay, finally got a debootstrap'd install all the way to booting off a sata raid 0 partition, got the /dev/mapper files from initrd to real_root, got the xserver up and running, and kde installed... only problem is... the mouse don't work. Made a custom kernel, have all necessary support compiled in, but still no mouse, any hints as to where to start troubleshooting (ps mouse = MS Intellimouse Explorer - USB) |
| 10:12.18 | M_Cheevy | oh, gpm doesn't appear to work either |
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| 10:19.30 | doubleukay | what shell is compatible with sh, besides bash? |
| 10:19.35 | doubleukay | i think there's a bash bug i'm running into |
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| 10:20.39 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: zsh, dash; basically, any posix shell should be able to be /bin/sh |
| 10:20.46 | doubleukay | thanks |
| 10:20.53 | doubleukay | this is getting really annoying. |
| 10:20.58 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: what's the problem? |
| 10:21.11 | doubleukay | i have echo ... | grep ... in one line, in a function |
| 10:21.25 | doubleukay | the whole shell exits when after grep is called |
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| 10:23.29 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: uh... do you have set -e on in your shell? |
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| 10:24.33 | mooed | pon uname -a |
| 10:24.38 | mooed | haver q dice |
| 10:24.39 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: echo $-; should tell you. |
| 10:24.47 | doubleukay | no. what is -e for? |
| 10:24.58 | doubleukay | i ran it in -x to figure out where it quit |
| 10:25.17 | dondelelcaro | -e causes the shell to exit on the first command that exits with non-zero exit status |
| 10:25.27 | doubleukay | hmm i see |
| 10:25.29 | doubleukay | damn :) |
| 10:25.39 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: what does echo $-; output? |
| 10:25.40 | doubleukay | i will look into that soon enough. after my sis gets off the computer. |
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| 10:29.54 | mkl1525 | Hi, just read that I should insert something in /etc/modprobe.conf but on my sarge there isn't this file, is the functionality moved to another file or should I just create it? |
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| 10:31.37 | jvw | mkl1525: what exactly? |
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| 10:31.59 | jvw | mkl1525: (that you want to add, and to solve what?) |
| 10:32.41 | mkl1525 | jvw, I want to automatically execute ztcfg to activate my ISDN card after reboot and reloading of zaphfc modules |
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| 10:33.49 | jvw | mkl1525: won't adding it to /etc/modules help, or would that break because it'd be in the wrong order then? |
| 10:33.54 | derjohn | when I create a debian/rules for a src package, in which order are the targets called by dpkg-buildpache? It seens that it does not make a "./configure" in my case (package uses autoconf)? |
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| 10:34.21 | dondelelcaro | derjohn: dpkg-buildpackage only calls the binary target (possibly binary-indep or binary-arch only) |
| 10:34.24 | jvw | mkl1525: anyway, maybe what you were looking for is now in /etc/modutils/ |
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| 10:34.43 | jvw | derjohn: see policy for the details and definitions |
| 10:34.47 | dondelelcaro | derjohn: if your package uses ./configure, try starting with dh_make |
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| 10:35.42 | SerajewelKS | are there any pc emulators in debian that support acpi? |
| 10:35.50 | mkl1525 | jvw, thought /etc/modules is just for modules (so I added zaphfc there) and not for executing programs (what ztcfg is)? |
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| 10:36.27 | dondelelcaro | mkl1525: if you want to execute some program, it should probably have an init.d script. |
| 10:36.32 | jvw | mkl1525: oh, right |
| 10:37.02 | jvw | mkl1525: what dondelelcaro says would work, you'd modprobe and then execute whatever you need from that init.d script |
| 10:37.12 | vyrus001 | what is the name of that program that bridges the gap between the x11 clip board and the console clip board... i beleve it ends with 'sel' or 'selec' ? |
| 10:37.13 | jvw | probably not as neat and clean as the modprobe way |
| 10:37.18 | jvw | but well, it works |
| 10:37.34 | derjohn | jvw, you wont beelive it - I did ;) dondelelcaro, it did dh_make for initial foo(), but when building the thingy (dpkg-buildpackacge) didn't create the Makefile from config.in ... or am I missing a step? Do I have to call debian/rules configure "handish" ? |
| 10:37.49 | mkl1525 | jvw, looking in /etc/modutils/actions "post-install zaphfc ztcfg" should be the solution, shouldn't it (if that won't work I'd use a ini script) |
| 10:38.23 | jvw | mkl1525: that sounds like what you were looking for, yet |
| 10:38.32 | jvw | mkl1525: so I suggest trying it :) |
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| 10:38.49 | dondelelcaro | derjohn: do you have a ./configure? |
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| 10:39.20 | derjohn | dondelelcaro, yes, I do. |
| 10:39.36 | dondelelcaro | derjohn: and what does fakeroot debian/rules binary; do? |
| 10:39.41 | derjohn | dondelelcaro, besides that it works if I do it handish :) |
| 10:39.56 | dondelelcaro | (possibly fakeroot debian/rules clean binary;) |
| 10:39.58 | derjohn | dondelelcaro, didn't try yet |
| 10:40.13 | Guerin | dondelelcaro: rtfm n00b |
| 10:40.25 | derjohn | dondelelcaro, i created it with dh_makre - should it work out of the box? |
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| 10:40.35 | derjohn | Guerin, yes := |
| 10:40.37 | derjohn | ) |
| 10:40.41 | dondelelcaro | derjohn: often, but it depends on the application... |
| 10:41.13 | derjohn | dondelelcaro, k, thx, will try to figure out ;) |
| 10:41.56 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 10:41.57 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure populartiy-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 10:42.32 | mkl1525 | jvw, thanks for your suggestions |
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| 10:44.07 | arjas | Hello everyone! could someone help newbie in Debian? |
| 10:44.14 | dondelelcaro | arjas: just ask your question |
| 10:44.15 | tarzeau | !noob |
| 10:44.15 | dpkg | Don't bother telling us you're a "newb" or a "n00b". We can tell. |
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| 10:44.41 | arjas | :) ok, I'm not quite sure how to mount usb on console |
| 10:44.48 | dondelelcaro | arjas: a usbkey? |
| 10:45.09 | arjas | dondel, a usb flash memorystick |
| 10:45.10 | Whisky_ | I just insatalled Debian. I have broadband internet with the following setup: Router > Switch > 2 PC's. Windows can automatically get address from the router and connect but Debian isn't doing that and thus I have no connectivity. |
| 10:45.21 | m_athias | arjas: check "dmesg" |
| 10:45.29 | m_athias | just type the command |
| 10:45.35 | dondelelcaro | arjas: assuming you've loaded usbms and sci disk support, check dmesg to see which scsi device the usb stick is on, and mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/foo; |
| 10:45.36 | azeem | Whisky_: is your Nic supported? |
| 10:45.41 | m_athias | it should tell you that some usb device is detectet and where |
| 10:46.02 | Whisky_ | azeem: It used to work before when i had connected the PC direct to the Debian system. |
| 10:46.35 | azeem | Whisky_: connected the PC? |
| 10:46.43 | azeem | oh |
| 10:47.00 | azeem | Whisky_: did you configure /etc/network/interfaces to use DHCP? |
| 10:47.00 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: is that a router or just a cable modem? |
| 10:47.02 | Whisky_ | oops, i mean connected the Router direct to the pc. |
| 10:47.25 | Whisky_ | azeem: By default it had "dhcp" at the end of the auto eth0 bla bla line :/ |
| 10:47.49 | azeem | Whisky_: ah, ok |
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| 10:48.28 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: A router. |
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| 10:48.40 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: ok, so what IP does your windows box get? |
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| 10:48.57 | Whisky_ | 10.0.0.13 |
| 10:49.02 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: does the NIC in the Debian machine linkup with the switch? |
| 10:49.03 | Whisky_ | and the Router has 10.0.0.2 |
| 10:49.07 | dondelelcaro | cool. |
| 10:49.08 | Nz17 | How to type a euro symbol in Firefox? |
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| 10:49.53 | resiak | Same way you type € everywhere else. |
| 10:50.03 | Guerin | !extended chars |
| 10:50.04 | dpkg | [extended chars] to enter chars like ïÇô¿ or éâßñ in X, "xmodmap -e 'keycode 117 = Multi_key'". After that, you can use your rightmost windows key as a Compose key, e.g. pressing windows-key, ~, n in sequence will produce ñ or ñ, or the complete list of combinations is in /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/*/Compose, where * depends on your locale (iso8859-1 is default), or similar functionality for the console can be achieved using the loadkeys command |
| 10:50.09 | Sytone | Q: I have a box which I want to be headless, as soon as I disconnect the keyboard it throws a uhci_hcd host controller error and continulessy scrolls the screen |
| 10:50.17 | Guerin | <compose>=E |
| 10:50.22 | dondelelcaro | € |
| 10:50.34 | Guerin | € |
| 10:50.37 | dondelelcaro | hrm... font here doesn't quite like it... *shrug* |
| 10:50.41 | Sytone | any way to stop it polling the keyboard on boot as it does not seem to like it at all |
| 10:50.47 | Nz17 | How is that? I have not done Euro before. Also have no right Windows key. |
| 10:50.54 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: So? :S |
| 10:50.56 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: that's bios dependent |
| 10:51.04 | SimonRaven | € |
| 10:51.04 | SimonRaven | saw it here |
| 10:51.10 | Guerin | Nz17: you can bind any old key to it - if you are lucky enough to not have winkeys, use capslock |
| 10:51.22 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: did the nic linkup with the switch? |
| 10:51.44 | Sytone | <dondelelcaro>: I have enabled keyboardless in the bios, i used to run windows 2003 on it without keyboard with no issues |
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| 10:51.57 | resiak | sward: teach Nz17 the drxx method! |
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| 10:52.12 | vyrus001 | when i highlight somthing in aterm it does not get sent to the xclipboard, how do i change that? |
| 10:52.21 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: It does in Windows. And when Debian starts it says that it has and the light in the NIC turns on. But no connectivity ;/ |
| 10:52.29 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: oh, you're talking about the uhci_hcd thing, sorry, didn't catch that. Change the printk level to the console. |
| 10:52.31 | SimonRaven | vyrus001: try holding shift first |
| 10:52.39 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: and if you set a static ip? |
| 10:52.46 | Whisky_ | havemt done that |
| 10:53.09 | quitte | Sytone: or even easier: use a ps/2 keyboard |
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| 10:53.12 | vyrus001 | SimonRaven: nope |
| 10:53.14 | vyrus001 | nothing |
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| 10:53.26 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: you can also just rmmod that module |
| 10:53.49 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: what printk ? Sorry been a while since I have used linux... |
| 10:54.08 | Nz17 | I have "multimedia" key on my keyboard. Can I use those for Euro? |
| 10:54.11 | SimonRaven | !kernel printk |
| 10:54.14 | Sytone | quitte: Im shoving the pc in a corner on my network, nothing will be attached to it |
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| 10:54.49 | SimonRaven | kernel.printk=3 3 1 7 # number to adjust the the leftmost |
| 10:54.51 | arjas | mathias: i found the stick and the next question is about the filesystem, how to type it? |
| 10:54.51 | sward | resiak: I didn't know drxx configured it.. or did I? Heck, I can't remember what I did, I just added an option :) |
| 10:55.01 | resiak | sward: Point. |
| 10:55.09 | SimonRaven | if you have a recent 2.6: kernel.printk_ratelimit_burst=5 |
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| 10:55.53 | resiak | Nz17: Sure. Use xev to find the keycode of the key you want to use, then replace 117 in the instruction given by dpkg with th at. |
| 10:56.01 | quitte | Sytone: i understood that. and i've never had problems removing a ps/2 keyboard |
| 10:56.11 | SimonRaven | in /etc/sysctl.conf; sysctl -p to enable changes to that file |
| 10:56.27 | Sytone | quitte: ok i see what you mean, but if i have to reboot it will get annoying |
| 10:56.57 | quitte | Sytone: you can't enable ps/2 keyboard once you connected it in bios? |
| 10:57.03 | quitte | err disable? |
| 10:57.41 | Sytone | quitte: tried that, it is disabled already. chanoing printk now |
| 10:58.28 | quitte | ok |
| 10:58.54 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: So what do i do now? :( |
| 10:59.20 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: does a static work? |
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| 11:01.07 | doubleukay | dondelelcaro, nopes, bash doesn't have -e set |
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| 11:01.48 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: I haven't tried that. How do I set the static IP in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 11:01.55 | sward | resiak: Oh, there is a bit to add options for your keyboard. It suggests some of them, but not 'compose:menu', so it's a bit non-obvious really. |
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| 11:02.20 | tarzeau | there is no (or no more) 9term for debian? |
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| 11:02.59 | Sytone | ok, it no longer scrolls with errors now but hangs after playing with hotplug subsystem |
| 11:03.10 | Sytone | hopefully the log files have something this time |
| 11:03.36 | resiak | sward: I added it that way. |
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| 11:05.18 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: well, for starters, just ifconfig eth0 10.0.0.14 netmask 255.255.255.0; route add default gw 10.0.0.2; and try to ping the gateway. |
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| 11:06.46 | Whisky_ | but windows gives my system 10.0.0.13.......and after i reboot these settings will be gone :/ |
| 11:07.43 | postel | tarzeau: edit your inittab and add more terms if you need them |
| 11:07.48 | Diazepam | whats up whisky |
| 11:07.55 | Whisky_ | hey Diazepam |
| 11:08.02 | tarzeau | postel: huh? |
| 11:08.09 | Whisky_ | I just insatalled Debian. I have broadband internet with the following setup: Router > Switch > 2 PC's. Windows can automatically get address from the router and connect but Debian isn't doing that and thus I have no connectivity. |
| 11:08.13 | tarzeau | postel: i know screen, but i'm talking about the plan9 term |
| 11:08.18 | Guerin | Whisky_, Diazepam: you two shouldn't be hanging out together |
| 11:08.25 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: yes, but we want to first figure out if the nic will work with the manual settings before bothering with that. |
| 11:08.26 | tarzeau | !plan9 |
| 11:08.26 | dpkg | plan9 is, like, at http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9dist/, written by the creators of Unix and C, a highly distributed OS, filesystem layout resembles Unix somewhat. Very mouse intensive. Now under a mostly free license. |
| 11:08.34 | postel | tarzeau: oh, im sorry, i got it all wrong, ignore that |
| 11:08.34 | Whisky_ | omg Guerin |
| 11:08.44 | Whisky_ | when you going on the world tour? =p |
| 11:08.49 | tarzeau | !factinfo plan9 |
| 11:08.50 | dpkg | plan9 -- created by fooz <walker@adsl-63-202-232-42.dsl.sndg02.pacbell.net> at Sun Nov 5 09:44:02 2000 (1862 days); it has been requested 18 times, last by paulv_ at Mon Nov 28 07:41:54 2005. |
| 11:09.03 | tarzeau | fooz: did you revisit plan9s license? |
| 11:09.12 | Guerin | Whisky_: T-78 days |
| 11:09.54 | Whisky_ | oh k, i'm waiting in Peshawar :p |
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| 11:10.38 | Guerin | Whisky_: we ARE currently still planning on going through Peshawar, over the khyber |
| 11:10.51 | Whisky_ | ok :) |
| 11:10.57 | Guerin | and thence through afghanistan and up to tajikistan |
| 11:10.58 | Whisky_ | but for now, help me solve my problem :S |
| 11:11.06 | Guerin | probably about juneish |
| 11:11.10 | Whisky_ | k! |
| 11:11.27 | Sytone | ok uhci_hcd is failing, and not leaving anything in the log files that i know of, pointers? |
| 11:11.28 | Guerin | Whisky_: use a dhcp client |
| 11:11.39 | Whisky_ | Guerin: Which one? I have no clue what to do :| |
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| 11:12.04 | Diazepam | whisky first ping your card to see if its working |
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| 11:12.23 | blunted | free pimp c |
| 11:12.27 | Diazepam | ping 127.0.0.1 |
| 11:12.33 | Diazepam | then ping your router |
| 11:12.38 | Andy0377 | what should i have in "sources.list" currently it is blank (i am in UK) |
| 11:12.40 | Diazepam | to see if you can connect |
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| 11:12.48 | Guerin | Whisky_: dhclient eth0 |
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| 11:12.51 | resiak | Diazepam: 127.0.0.1 is _totally_ unconnected to whther the card works or not. |
| 11:12.56 | resiak | Andy0377: use apt-setup |
| 11:12.59 | Guerin | Whisky_: presuming eth0 is the correct interface |
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| 11:13.04 | Whisky_ | yup it is |
| 11:13.18 | Whisky_ | dhclient eth0; in terminal? |
| 11:13.23 | Guerin | Whisky_: as root. |
| 11:13.36 | Andy0377 | was hoping to just type them in as i need to add some of my own!! |
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| 11:13.58 | Whisky_ | Right. |
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| 11:14.05 | resiak | man sources.list then, since you claim to know which mirrors you need |
| 11:14.10 | Whisky_ | and what about /etc/network/interfaces..what do I have to do there ? |
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| 11:14.32 | Andy0377 | i don't know the mirrors, i know how to edit the list and i have added my own on but i need the default ones |
| 11:14.40 | Guerin | Whisky_: if dhclient works, read man interfaces for how to automate it |
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| 11:14.45 | dondelelcaro | Andy0377: there are no default ones; run apt-setup; to pick some. |
| 11:14.58 | vyrus001 | Andy0377: i beleave apt-setup contains a list of the defaults |
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| 11:15.05 | vyrus001 | lol |
| 11:15.22 | Whisky_ | ok. and by the way how do i reconfigure X...my resolution is 800*600 i want it to be 1024*768 |
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| 11:15.50 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86; |
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| 11:15.59 | vyrus001 | problem... my mplayer works fine but i can only SEE vids in root. if i run mplayer in normal user mode all i get is audio |
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| 11:16.19 | dondelelcaro | vyrus001: which display driver are you using? |
| 11:16.19 | Whisky_ | thank you |
| 11:16.24 | blunted | i get all my warez when im logged in as root |
| 11:16.28 | blunted | i thought that was the point of it |
| 11:16.29 | blunted | :\ |
| 11:16.36 | blunted | u suppsto look cool when u stealin |
| 11:16.44 | Ozzy_ | :\ |
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| 11:16.50 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: actuly i dont know, because i dont know where my config file is, i just know im running it default |
| 11:16.51 | blunted | least i do. i dunno bout ya'll |
| 11:16.58 | blunted | ya'll cop that paul wall yet? |
| 11:17.00 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: its a source compile |
| 11:17.05 | blunted | its fire |
| 11:17.07 | dondelelcaro | vyrus001: try with -vo xv and see what happens. |
| 11:17.10 | blunted | i be bumping that shiz |
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| 11:17.18 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: did, no luck |
| 11:17.32 | blunted | ya'll is the only people online right now. |
| 11:17.32 | dondelelcaro | vyrus001: and no luck with -vo x11 either? |
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| 11:17.39 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: nope |
| 11:17.40 | blunted | everyone else is sleepin |
| 11:17.43 | Whisky_ | k brb |
| 11:17.51 | blunted | waste the bandwidth while u cans |
| 11:17.57 | dondelelcaro | blunted: put the bong down and step away from the keyboard |
| 11:17.58 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: but the app works fine as root :P |
| 11:18.07 | Sytone | ok uhci_hcd is failing with no keyboard plugged in, and not leaving anything in the log files that i know of, pointers? |
| 11:18.10 | blunted | naw the blunt just went out shawty |
| 11:18.17 | blunted | but see im fixing to roll anotha |
| 11:18.24 | blunted | and then i'll be on that level |
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| 11:18.41 | vyrus001 | dondelelcaro: looks like it runs under vesa, but not under normal user |
| 11:18.43 | dondelelcaro | blunted: that's great, it's wildly OT for us; please share your exploits in a more general chat channel |
| 11:18.59 | blunted | point me towards one |
| 11:18.59 | jesperj | on testing, apt-get says a package named "Inkscape" can not be verified |
| 11:19.00 | blunted | and maybe |
| 11:19.03 | postel | vyrus001: give your video device (the one mplayer tries to open) to a group and make the user a member, its permissions problems i root writes to the -vo and the user cannot |
| 11:19.04 | blunted | i'll go there |
| 11:19.06 | blunted | if theres chicks. |
| 11:19.07 | dondelelcaro | blunted: ##linux or something. |
| 11:19.07 | jesperj | it is a dependened on deb |
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| 11:19.23 | jesperj | Is it still safe to install it? |
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| 11:19.44 | vyrus001 | postel: hmm so since my output device is vesa, i need to make /dev/vesa acsessable to my normal user? |
| 11:20.48 | postel | vyrus001: that is correct, you need to make sure the user has permissions to write to the -vo dev, root can write anywhere thats why theres no problem for him |
| 11:21.24 | vyrus001 | postel: where is the "vesa" device "since now i have discoverd that is the device root is useing" |
| 11:21.34 | Sytone | ok uhci_hcd is failing with no keyboard plugged in, and not leaving anything in the log files that i know of, pointers? Anyone? |
| 11:21.49 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: how is it failing? |
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| 11:22.11 | postel | vyrus001: run mplayer from a terminal and try to play the video as a user, scroll up and you'll see "Trying to open yada yada" |
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| 11:23.10 | Sytone | all i can see in the logs is a reference to atkbd.c with to may keys pressed |
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| 11:23.13 | vyrus001 | postel: what line am i looking for here ? |
| 11:23.39 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: that was in kern.log |
| 11:24.07 | postel | vyrus001: One block is the Audio Device and one is the video, the output is not big, there are 2 devices there, scroll up |
| 11:24.36 | Nz17 | When I use xmodmap does it save to next session? |
| 11:24.46 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: that may have been me pulling the keyboard while it shutdown last time |
| 11:25.08 | vyrus001 | postel: this works in root problem... my mplayer works fine but i can only SEE vids in root. if i run mplayer in normal user mode all i get is audio |
| 11:25.13 | vyrus001 | postel: sorry paste problem |
| 11:25.27 | jesperj | Thank you for the lack of reply. Goodbye |
| 11:25.30 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: ok; but besides that, is anything else happening? |
| 11:25.43 | postel | vyrus001: run it from the term and pastebin.ca the whole output |
| 11:25.52 | vyrus001 | ok |
| 11:26.19 | Sytone | no, when the keyboard is out it just sits there, reboot and put keyboard back in and all fine, it seems to hang around uhci_hcd |
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| 11:27.19 | Sytone | ok rebooted again, it has stated that uhci-hcd is loaded, but it is just sitting threr |
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| 11:28.40 | Sytone | rebooting to see if it left anything in the logs |
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| 11:28.47 | vyrus001 | postel: http://pastebin.ca/33270 |
| 11:28.51 | postel | vyrus001: a sec |
| 11:29.06 | bluechild | hi, may i ask a question ? |
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| 11:29.26 | EdLin | !tell bluechild -about ask |
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| 11:29.45 | bluechild | i've tried to install a couple of binaries or two who gave me this message : "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!" |
| 11:29.50 | vyrus001 | postel: np |
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| 11:30.10 | bluechild | EdLin, sorry for that :) |
| 11:30.13 | SerajewelKS | !ops 85.107.124.239 joinflooding |
| 11:30.13 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity: 85.107.124.239 joinflooding |
| 11:30.14 | EdLin | !wayc bluechild |
| 11:30.14 | dpkg | bluechild: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
| 11:30.35 | bluechild | dpkg, i haven't found a deb package |
| 11:30.49 | EdLin | bluechild: apt-cache search |
| 11:31.02 | caphuso | SerajewelKS: how often do you need to do that stupid thing until you realize THAT NO OP CARES? |
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| 11:31.16 | bluechild | EdLin, it's a theme ... i don't think that will do it :) |
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| 11:31.35 | SerajewelKS | caphuso: well excuse me.. i've seen ops care in the past. back off. |
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| 11:31.41 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: ok NOTHING is getting written to the log files |
| 11:31.44 | bluechild | so, the question is what's the name of the X includes package so i can check if it's installed ? |
| 11:31.51 | Ghoul | how do i change my screen resolution to 1024x768... in the KDE menu the best i can do is 800x600? |
| 11:31.57 | resiak | bluechild: x-dev is a metapackage for all the X headers |
| 11:32.00 | resiak | !drxx Ghoul |
| 11:32.03 | dpkg | Ghoul: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 11:32.13 | mimosa | hola |
| 11:32.14 | caphuso | SerajewelKS: i've told you before, learn to use your /ignore command |
| 11:32.17 | Ghoul | lets see.. |
| 11:32.18 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: oh, I understand now... boot is hanging at uhci_hid; just remove that module from your modules.conf |
| 11:32.22 | mimosa | algun español? |
| 11:32.25 | resiak | !es |
| 11:32.25 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 11:32.27 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: there are also scripts to ignore rapid join/parts |
| 11:32.35 | resiak | !nospambot |
| 11:32.35 | dpkg | i guess nospambot is http://p12n.org/tmp/nospambot.pl - put that in ~/.irssi/scripts and do /run nospambot to ignore join and quit messages of users who stay online for 2 seconds or less, or change timeout to a higher number to ignore bots who evade the k-line for more than 2 seconds |
| 11:32.40 | postel | vyrus001: your fb device does not exist, root tries to open it too but its not there, so it rolls back to VESA and it displays fine, user cannot find fb either. but rolls back to NULL, hence no output, speciy the correct -vo from teh term or the user |
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| 11:32.57 | postel | s/or/for |
| 11:33.04 | bluechild | resiak, thanks a lot :) |
| 11:33.17 | vyrus001 | postel: problem is -vo vesa dosnt work |
| 11:33.32 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: the fact that it's hanging is almost certainly a kernel bug; but it's not one that I'm in a position to debug right now |
| 11:33.52 | Andy0377 | how do i install SSH on debian? |
| 11:33.59 | dondelelcaro | Andy0377: apt-get install ssh; |
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| 11:34.09 | Andy0377 | would have thought it was default! lol |
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| 11:34.14 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: ok, i would post the log files but i have to cold boot the system and it does not seem to wroite them to disk |
| 11:34.20 | vyrus001 | Andy0377: depends on ure installer |
| 11:34.20 | SerajewelKS | Andy0377: it *is* default... |
| 11:34.25 | Whisky_ | Guerin: That didnt work. |
| 11:34.26 | postel | vyrus001: mplayer -vo help |
| 11:34.35 | Guerin | !didn't work |
| 11:34.35 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 11:34.36 | dondelelcaro | Andy0377: "default" is a rather meaningless term in Debian. |
| 11:34.39 | postel | vyrus001: would give you the available ones |
| 11:34.49 | Whisky_ | lol |
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| 11:34.53 | dondelelcaro | Andy0377: unless a package is Essential: yes, or a dependency of something that is, it's not really "default" |
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| 11:35.15 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: is uhci_hid known as something else in modules.conf as I do not see it listed there |
| 11:35.20 | Andy0377 | ok thanks |
| 11:35.26 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: are you using a Debian kernel? |
| 11:35.33 | Whisky_ | Guerin: dhclient eth0 didnt work. It says something like getting the link up at 10.0.0.2 and gets it up similar to the text that is shown when the system boots up but there is no connectivity. |
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| 11:35.52 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: did it get a DHCPOFFER from the DHCP server? |
| 11:36.00 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 11:36.08 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: or did it just display a set of DHCPDISCOVER? |
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| 11:36.14 | vyrus001 | postel: yea and none of them work :P |
| 11:36.47 | Guerin | Whisky_: boot into windows, run ipconfig /a and not down all relevant details; then try to connect your debian machine using either man interfaces or man ifconfig as a guide |
| 11:36.47 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: It gets DHCPOFFER during bootup and all the stuff dhclient eth0 did was almost same as the bootup one so i guess it was ;/ |
| 11:36.55 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 11:37.05 | Whisky_ | im in windows right now |
| 11:37.05 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: ok, most likely it's hotplug or discover that's loading the modules. If this is a server, I personally would strongly recommend ditching them and manually specifying the modules to load in your /etc/modules; otherwise, set up a blacklist to not load that module so it doesn't hang. |
| 11:37.17 | postel | vyrus001: compiled from source or package? |
| 11:37.57 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: of course, this means that your usb keyboard won't work, but... |
| 11:37.57 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: is a PS/2 so i do not mind :) |
| 11:37.57 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: ah, excellent. |
| 11:38.00 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: doh, i haven't tried disabling USB in the BIOS |
| 11:38.08 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: well, that would do it too. |
| 11:38.16 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: ill give that a shot, one second. |
| 11:38.17 | dondelelcaro | (well, probably, anyway) |
| 11:38.32 | vyrus001 | postel: source |
| 11:38.48 | Whisky_ | mans suck :x |
| 11:39.13 | doubleukay | dondelelcaro, grr.. it doesn't work with bash3 either. |
| 11:39.17 | Sytone | Whisky: :D whats wrong with text |
| 11:39.23 | Guerin | Whisky_: ok, if you get a dhcpoffer, then dhclient is the right tool - you just need to figure out what's going wrong between your client and the dhcp server |
| 11:39.38 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: if it got a DHCP offer, then the nic is working. It should be able to ping your gateway, since that's also the dhcp server. |
| 11:39.56 | Guerin | Whisky_: my method with ipconfig above will still work |
| 11:39.58 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: what is the actual function that you're running? |
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| 11:40.05 | Whisky_ | yup i can ping 10.0.0.2 |
| 11:40.16 | Whisky_ | ipconfig /a |
| 11:40.17 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: ok, then the nick and everything is working; what isn't working? |
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| 11:40.30 | Whisky_ | Unrecognized command :P |
| 11:40.36 | dondelelcaro | ifconfig -a |
| 11:40.45 | Guerin | Whisky_: ipconfig is a windows command |
| 11:40.49 | Whisky_ | dondelelcaro: Connectivity! I can't do anything like connect to IRC, IM, Web |
| 11:40.50 | Guerin | ifconfig is a unix command |
| 11:40.54 | postel | vyrus001: is VESA VBE 2.0 available under mplayer -vo help ? |
| 11:41.00 | Whisky_ | Guerin: yeah but /a is not the correct prefix =p |
| 11:41.06 | Guerin | Whisky_: then you need to add some nameservers to your sources.list |
| 11:41.11 | Guerin | Whisky_: it might be /all |
| 11:41.20 | caphuso | Guerin: resolv.conf |
| 11:41.25 | vyrus001 | postel: yes |
| 11:41.25 | Guerin | caphuso: yeh |
| 11:41.26 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: yes, but you can connect to your gateway. can you say, ping 72.14.207.99? |
| 11:41.28 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: sweet, disable usb and all is good |
| 11:41.33 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: cool. |
| 11:41.33 | Guerin | Whisky_: resolv.conf |
| 11:41.44 | Guerin | nameservers in your sources.list aren't much use |
| 11:41.49 | Whisky_ | what nameservers do I add ? |
| 11:41.59 | dondelelcaro | Whisky_: your ISP's nameservers... |
| 11:42.03 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: no idea why it freaked not having a PS/2 keyboard plugged in but hey, thats lif |
| 11:42.26 | Sytone | dondelelcaro: thanks for your help' |
| 11:42.31 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: yeah, could be something strange with your bios; dunno... I'm not familiar enough with that slice of code to say anything much about it. |
| 11:42.33 | Guerin | !fisresolvconf |
| 11:42.35 | dondelelcaro | Sytone: np. |
| 11:42.37 | Guerin | !fixresolvconf |
| 11:42.38 | dpkg | ISP fucking with your /etc/resolv.conf file? Don't worry! just do echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1\nnameserver 168.126.63.1" > /etc/resolv.conf && chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf; as root, and your problems will be solved (permanently) |
| 11:42.41 | postel | vyrus001: do you mind dropping to pastebin the output of the user running mplayer -vo vesa filename? btw -vo xv works for user or not? |
| 11:42.42 | Guerin | I suck this evening |
| 11:42.43 | quitte | Sytone: is there a halt on error option in the bios? |
| 11:42.57 | vyrus001 | postel: xv does not work |
| 11:43.10 | vyrus001 | postel: i did :P its on the one i sent u |
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| 11:43.23 | doubleukay | dondelelcaro, wanna see the source? |
| 11:43.24 | Sytone | quitte: yea, but the bios is all happy |
| 11:43.28 | doubleukay | it's from the xen project |
| 11:43.35 | dondelelcaro | ugh. |
| 11:43.50 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: any reason why you're not using the xen packages that already exist? |
| 11:43.56 | postel | vyrus001: nope, the ones you gave me are mplayer filename, i want mplayer -vo vesa filename |
| 11:43.57 | dondelelcaro | (they doo work) |
| 11:43.59 | quitte | Sytone: ok nevermind then |
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| 11:44.19 | Ethics | link to a pinnig example on the web? |
| 11:44.23 | doubleukay | dondelelcaro, because they're not xen-3 yet. |
| 11:44.28 | vyrus001 | postel: ther is no new info.. its a smaller output .... but sure if u want |
| 11:44.33 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: doogie will be releasing xen 3 RSN. |
| 11:44.43 | doubleukay | even if i did, my network card plays up with one particular part of it |
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| 11:44.58 | doubleukay | specifically, adding the physical interface to the bridge |
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| 11:45.33 | vyrus001 | postel: all i get after the audio section is a line saying "Error opening / initalizing the selected -vo device |
| 11:45.39 | vyrus001 | and then nothing |
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| 11:45.44 | vyrus001 | the rest is blank |
| 11:45.50 | doubleukay | seems like adding the PI before the link comes up (short delay due to auto-negotiation) causes the PI to stop working. |
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| 11:45.54 | Whisky_ | echo -e "nameserver 4.2.2.1\nnameserver 1 |
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| 11:46.02 | postel | vyrus001: thats the user? the root plays fine with -vo vesa? |
| 11:46.09 | Whisky_ | two N's in the second "nameserver" ? |
| 11:46.09 | quitte | dondelelcaro where is that backport you made? |
| 11:46.18 | dondelelcaro | quitte: http://rzlab.ucr.edu/debian/archive/stable/ |
| 11:46.33 | quitte | dondelelcaro: thanks a lot. |
| 11:46.46 | vyrus001 | postel: yes |
| 11:46.56 | dondelelcaro | quitte: you'll need the 2.0.6 installer package for the xen domU and dom0 kernels, didn't bother to package those up separately. |
| 11:46.59 | Eulex | Whisky_, no, \n is an escape code for newline |
| 11:47.11 | Whisky_ | oh ok! :o |
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| 11:47.26 | Whisky_ | see you mate |
| 11:47.28 | Whisky_ | let me try this now |
| 11:47.29 | Whisky_ | brb |
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| 11:48.09 | quitte | dondelelcaro: ill try to forward that information. i have no idea what that means. frien of mine wants to try xen |
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| 11:48.36 | dondelelcaro | ah... well, those packages work... got a machine here that will upgrade from woody->sarge over and over and over again... |
| 11:49.12 | vyrus001 | postel: this looks bad.. check this line |
| 11:49.34 | vyrus001 | postel: VO: Comment: Requires ROOT privileges |
| 11:49.51 | postel | aha |
| 11:50.20 | vyrus001 | is ther eno way to fix that ? |
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| 11:51.30 | postel | vyrus001: sure, strace it or lsof it to see what it does open and lower the permissions |
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| 11:52.08 | vyrus001 | postel: lol great... well ill try that... thanx for the help |
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| 11:52.36 | postel | no worries, the_scene is kinda fun btw :D |
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| 11:52.53 | doubleukay | say.. |
| 11:53.06 | doubleukay | what is a substitute to grep RUNNING ? |
| 11:53.12 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: awk |
| 11:53.14 | doubleukay | sed -e '/RUNNING/' doesn't work |
| 11:53.17 | Ethics | was there a huge rollin on etch in the at few days? |
| 11:53.21 | doubleukay | ahh, will try awk |
| 11:53.35 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: but really depends on what you're trying to do |
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| 11:53.50 | doubleukay | just wanna check if RUNNING exists in the input |
| 11:54.02 | caphuso | doubleukay: and you can't use grep why? |
| 11:54.08 | elirips | hi people. i have a problem with my dns: at university i use ath0 to get an ip with dhcp. when i then go home, and use eth0 with a static ip, resolv.conf still has the entries from the university -> dns is not working (properly). for eth0 i have a static entry in interfaces, setting the ip, netmask and the gateway. someone know how i can fix that? |
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| 11:54.16 | vyrus001 | postel: hehe yea |
| 11:54.24 | doubleukay | caphuso, sigh i don't know. this script just quits when i piipe to grep |
| 11:54.28 | doubleukay | it's really weird |
| 11:55.13 | caphuso | doubleukay: using "set -e"? |
| 11:55.19 | postel | vyrus001: you got any idea whats that opening tune that plays in the credit scene? |
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| 11:55.31 | doubleukay | checked that, it's not enabled |
| 11:55.34 | Whisky_ | nti |
| 11:55.36 | vyrus001 | postel: its on the site |
| 11:55.37 | Whisky_ | omg im on Debian =p |
| 11:55.46 | vyrus001 | postel: all there music is custom |
| 11:55.48 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: and if you go echo foo|grep -q blah ||true; does it continue on? |
| 11:55.57 | vyrus001 | postel: http://www.welcometothescene.com |
| 11:56.02 | postel | that opening tune rocks |
| 11:56.09 | doubleukay | hhhhhheeeeeeeeeyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
| 11:56.13 | doubleukay | bugger |
| 11:56.34 | vyrus001 | postel: agreed :P |
| 11:56.35 | doubleukay | now when i echo $- right before the line which runs grep, it prints e! |
| 11:56.48 | dondelelcaro | winner. |
| 11:56.52 | doubleukay | ok, where the hell is -e being set (i previously tested for it at the script head) |
| 11:57.27 | caphuso | dondelelcaro: too obvious to get excited about :) |
| 11:57.49 | doubleukay | this has been a frustrating experience. |
| 11:58.10 | dondelelcaro | caphuso: heh; yeah, it's just funny cause of 02:23:29 <dondelelcaro> doubleukay: uh... do you have set -e on in your shell? |
| 11:59.01 | caphuso | hah |
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| 12:01.03 | doubleukay | + . ./xen-script-common.sh |
| 12:01.04 | doubleukay | ++ set -e |
| 12:01.05 | doubleukay | you bugger!! |
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| 12:01.51 | dondelelcaro | yeay for set -e in sourced scripts... |
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| 12:02.32 | Shadowpillar | where are the docs to make debs? |
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| 12:02.44 | doubleukay | hmm would doing set +e, set-e before and after my snippet be good practice? or is there another way to override the 'e' setting temporarily |
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| 12:05.13 | caphuso | doubleukay: chances are that your use of grep is bogus |
| 12:06.25 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: if your snippet is correct, it shouldn't matter what grep returns, because it should be caught by if or something else. |
| 12:06.28 | dondelelcaro | doubleukay: show us the code. |
| 12:06.32 | doubleukay | okay |
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| 12:06.39 | doubleukay | brief explanation |
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| 12:06.50 | Shadowpillar | where are the docs to make debs? |
| 12:07.01 | Serajewel | !tell Shadowpillar about repeat |
| 12:07.02 | dondelelcaro | !nm guide |
| 12:07.03 | dpkg | The New Maintainer's Guide contains an introductory tutorial on the art of making Debian packages. It is located at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ There is also an additional guide that the Debian Women subproject has put together which may be useful: http://women.alioth.debian.org/wiki/index.php/English/BuildingWithoutHelper |
| 12:07.09 | dondelelcaro | Shadowpillar: ^^^ |
| 12:07.21 | caphuso | woot! Get:1 http://www.davidpashley.com ./ irssi 0.8.10-1 [1027kB] |
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| 12:07.57 | SimonRaven | yay |
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| 12:08.38 | doubleukay | http://pastebin.ca/33273 <-- i'm testing whether an interface is in the RUNNING state, by grepping for it from the output of ifconfig. when grep is successful its retval = 0, which i test for. |
| 12:09.37 | SimonRaven | 3 arches too, nice |
| 12:09.42 | caphuso | doubleukay: urgh... if ifconfig $pdev | grep -q ...; then |
| 12:10.04 | doubleukay | oh, will that work too? great.. |
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| 12:11.23 | doubleukay | look what i found in the lines above: if ip addr show dev ${dst} | egrep -q '^ *inet ' ; then |
| 12:11.37 | doubleukay | wasn't being observant about that earlier |
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| 12:12.44 | Eclipser | mmh |
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| 12:13.15 | Eclipser | the ati drivers page says "(experimental, DO NOT USE!)" ... |
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| 12:15.54 | vyrus001 | postel: yea ive straced this thing and i think its compiled into the source that it only worksin root... guess ill have to hack it open :P |
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| 12:16.54 | eigenlambda | if one process is being annoying by constantly hitting the disk, how to tell which one it is? |
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| 12:17.07 | dondelelcaro | eigenlambda: it'll probably be the process in D. |
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| 12:17.40 | eigenlambda | in D? |
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| 12:17.59 | Gnea | eigenlambda: top |
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| 12:18.49 | silya | ia64 debian version supports amd 64 arch? (sempron) |
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| 12:19.12 | Serajewel | if a windows app i'm trying to run with wine needs some DLLs, should i just copy those into /usr/share/wine/skel/c/windows/system/? |
| 12:19.30 | bluechild | Question: when i run ./configure i get this message "checking for KDE... configure: error: |
| 12:19.33 | bluechild | in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail. |
| 12:19.33 | bluechild | So, check this please and use another prefix!" |
| 12:19.48 | bluechild | but i got both kdelibs and kdelibs4 packages installed |
| 12:19.50 | eigenlambda | i dont see a 'd' field in the top output... |
| 12:19.56 | eigenlambda | figures it would be in top |
| 12:20.01 | SerajewelKS | bluechild: but you don't have kdelibs-dev installed |
| 12:20.05 | eigenlambda | ::reads the manual:: |
| 12:20.11 | bluechild | what could be happening ? |
| 12:20.59 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, so this makes a difference eh ? :) But synaptic doesn't show kdelibs-dev as part of my dvds .. |
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| 12:21.03 | SerajewelKS | bluechild: if you don't know what -dev packages are, you shouldn't be compiling things |
| 12:21.26 | silya | ia64 debian version supports amd 64 arch? (sempron 2600+) |
| 12:21.53 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, i'm learning ;) |
| 12:21.58 | cbr | silya: no |
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| 12:22.06 | cbr | and sempron isnt amd64 |
| 12:22.14 | cbr | or is it a sempron64? |
| 12:22.27 | SerajewelKS | bluechild: what are you trying to compile |
| 12:22.41 | Eulex | bluechild, correct name of the -dev package is kdelibs4-dev |
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| 12:22.47 | silya | cbr: yes |
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| 12:23.03 | bluechild | Eulex, figured that out. Thanks :) |
| 12:23.28 | cbr | silya: for amd64 there is the amd64 port |
| 12:23.38 | cbr | ia64 is for itanium iirc |
| 12:24.16 | blondie | I eat glue! |
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| 12:24.55 | ReverendGoatse | anyone up? |
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| 12:25.37 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, i'm trying to compile a theme :D I'm starting now with linux and i'm not quite familiar yet with the whole structure of it .. |
| 12:25.59 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, but i'm adopting ;) |
| 12:26.10 | EdLin | ReverendGoatse: the sun never sets on #debian |
| 12:26.46 | Maakuth | ReverendGoatse, its 14:26 here in finland |
| 12:26.47 | SerajewelKS | bluechild: good luck.. i've never got a KDE theme to compile on *any* distribution of linux |
| 12:27.06 | EdLin | it's 7:27 here in Brooklyn |
| 12:27.22 | ReverendGoatse | haha, fun, I figured irc was the place to find people who were awake. |
| 12:27.42 | robin_sz | nah we type in our sleep. |
| 12:27.48 | Maakuth | yep, in international channels like this somebody's always awake |
| 12:28.09 | ReverendGoatse | Yeah, there's no one on my lists or anything so I thought I'd get on. |
| 12:28.13 | ReverendGoatse | it's 4 am here <3 |
| 12:28.20 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, really ? why ? |
| 12:28.22 | SerajewelKS | is it safe to compile kernel modules with a different gcc revision? e.g. kernel was compiled with 3.3.5, building module with 3.3.6 |
| 12:28.40 | SerajewelKS | bluechild: usually gcc gripes about not being able to find some C++ class |
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| 12:28.45 | Maakuth | ReverendGoatse, where? west coast of us? |
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| 12:29.02 | ReverendGoatse | Yeah, washington state. |
| 12:29.09 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, i see .. |
| 12:30.14 | EdLin | ReverendGoatse: I'm a bit of an insomniac too, though of course it's not so unusual to be out and about at 7:30 AM here in EST-land |
| 12:30.25 | SerajewelKS | and how can i figure out what version of gcc the kernel was compiled with? |
| 12:30.35 | cahoot | dmesg? |
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| 12:30.49 | ReverendGoatse | Yeah, being na insomiac is kinda cool, because of the whole peace and quiet thing, you don't have to put up with people who would otherwise bother you in the daytime. |
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| 12:31.29 | Maakuth | exactly |
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| 12:31.44 | cahoot | SerajewelKS: or /proc/version |
| 12:31.51 | dUICE | is there a way install debain net install from windows i have no blank disks |
| 12:31.51 | ReverendGoatse | so i shall feast on teddy grahams |
| 12:32.10 | EdLin | ReverendGoatse: that's what I like about being up then too |
| 12:32.16 | dUICE | i want to install the setup files onto my blank drive |
| 12:32.18 | Maakuth | negative side: if you're insomniac here in finland and chat in irc, you have to put up with americans (no offense) ;) |
| 12:32.37 | ReverendGoatse | Yeah, EdLin it really is nice sometimes. |
| 12:32.42 | bluechild | SerajewelKS, just figured out myself what you said before ;D I guess i got to find kth files ;D |
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| 12:32.53 | SerajewelKS | cahoot: hrm... i'm trying to build the vmmon module, and it says the kernel was built with 3.3.5. then the makefile complains that the kernel was build with 4.0.2, and so gcc-3.3 won't work. O_o |
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| 12:32.57 | ReverendGoatse | haha, yeah, don't worry I'm not originally american :P |
| 12:32.59 | SerajewelKS | obviously vmmon is nonfree |
| 12:33.10 | Maakuth | ok :) |
| 12:33.14 | dUICE | is there a way install debain net install from windows i have no blank disks |
| 12:33.40 | Eulex | !debain |
| 12:33.40 | dpkg | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 12:33.42 | Maakuth | dUICE, well, don't know about nt-series (like wxp), but dos-based windows' such as win98 will do |
| 12:33.51 | azeem | dUICE: no |
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| 12:34.00 | ReverendGoatse | ow. I bit my tounge, stupid teddy grahams.. yes it's the teddy grahams that's stupid.. |
| 12:34.00 | Maakuth | just go to dos mode and load linux kernel with loadlin |
| 12:34.02 | ReverendGoatse | that are* |
| 12:34.04 | azeem | dUICE: you can install it from USB stick/pendrive though |
| 12:34.06 | slef | Richard, |
| 12:34.06 | slef | Thank you for the PDFs. |
| 12:34.06 | slef | At Blackfriars/St John's Walk, I would prefer not using any |
| 12:34.06 | slef | ground marking at all, else I fear that some will follow it |
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| 12:34.10 | dUICE | dont have one |
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| 12:34.22 | dUICE | so i cant copy over some setup files? |
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| 12:34.39 | EdLin | dUICE: blank disks are cheap, go out and buy one for a dollar or two |
| 12:34.41 | slef | sorry about that |
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| 12:34.53 | Eulex | dUICE, "copy over some setup files"? |
| 12:35.09 | dUICE | the basic files to start to install if i reboot |
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| 12:35.15 | caphuso | Eulex: yeah, you know, the windows port of debian-installer |
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| 12:35.22 | azeem | dUICE: what do you want to reboot into? |
| 12:35.45 | dUICE | yea so i can install if from another drive |
| 12:35.45 | azeem | dUICE: I mean, you can't just copy some setup files to an empty partition and hope to boot an installer from it |
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| 12:36.03 | Xemanth^ | is Etch 'stable' these days ? |
| 12:36.17 | Xemanth^ | with stable i mean that does it crash alot :) |
| 12:36.24 | Maakuth | Xemanth^, stable enough |
| 12:36.26 | remedy | hey, i dist-upgraded to etch, now gpm tells me /dev/input/mice doesnt exist... what am i missing, the file exists, do i need to load a module of some sort? |
| 12:36.26 | caphuso | Xemanth^: does it have a big announcement on the front page of www.debian.org? |
| 12:36.28 | azeem | hrm, I wonder whether you could boot from floppy and loop-mount an .iso on a vfat partition |
| 12:36.28 | EdLin | Xemanth^: the last time I checked it was even worse than sid. |
| 12:36.37 | Maakuth | Xemanth^, but not officially Stable |
| 12:36.40 | azeem | that's how it's done with the netinst .iso on USB sticks AFAIK |
| 12:36.48 | yunien | hey, does somebody know a project that pays for computing power? |
| 12:37.02 | silya | yunien: dnet |
| 12:37.11 | silya | if you find the key |
| 12:37.19 | yunien | jep, i'm already running it ;) |
| 12:37.26 | yunien | but.. its like 1:150'000 for me |
| 12:37.26 | silya | :) |
| 12:37.42 | Xemanth^ | hmm-m i managed to break alot when apted kde to 3.5 from older version of kde... now i don't have kde at all :) i |
| 12:37.57 | Xemanth^ | i'm thinking of upgrading to etch, but don't know is it good :) |
| 12:38.10 | Maakuth | Xemanth^, what are you running now? |
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| 12:38.15 | Eulex | dUICE, not afaik |
| 12:38.18 | azeem | Xemanth^: if you have no pressing need, you probably shouldn't |
| 12:38.26 | EdLin | Xemanth^: iyntays |
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| 12:39.26 | Xemanth^ | EdLin: iyntays ? :) |
| 12:39.41 | azeem | !iyhtays |
| 12:39.41 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
| 12:39.44 | EdLin | Xemanth^: if you need to ask you shouldn't |
| 12:39.44 | azeem | I guess. |
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| 12:40.06 | azeem | EdLin: that's not particularly accurate for testing, in theory, running testing is supported |
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| 12:40.31 | Maakuth | if you want to use bleeding edge software like kde 3.5, debian is not the best choice, i think |
| 12:40.36 | azeem | it's just that the overall gain isn't so great over running sarge right now I guess |
| 12:40.42 | Maakuth | though i'm running sid on my desktop, and i like it |
| 12:40.43 | Xemanth^ | i've problem to upgrade to kde 3.5, it doesn't want to install it because it can't install arts because of too old libc ^^ and i can't find newer libc from any official repository |
| 12:40.45 | goccia | this "have to ask, you shouldn't" is a catch 22 |
| 12:41.04 | dUICE | i think i found a way |
| 12:41.11 | goccia | i hace to ask on udev but i do not ask anymore :) |
| 12:41.11 | dUICE | http://neon.lcs.mit.edu/tm100/install/ |
| 12:41.13 | azeem | Xemanth^: well, testing hasn't got kde 3.5 either, AFAIK |
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| 12:41.33 | blondie | hasn't kde been banned yet |
| 12:41.38 | azeem | blondie: no |
| 12:41.42 | Xemanth^ | banned :o |
| 12:41.42 | blondie | aww |
| 12:41.50 | blondie | Xemanth^: yeah, it's illegal in 27 countries |
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| 12:41.54 | SnarceZ | hi all |
| 12:41.56 | Maakuth | even sid has no kde 3.5 yet |
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| 12:42.03 | Maakuth | nor experimental |
| 12:42.09 | Maakuth | it's only in alioth |
| 12:42.11 | Eulex | Xemanth^, you're trying to install kde from a repo with a newer libc6 |
| 12:42.26 | goccia | illegal ? i wanted it :) |
| 12:42.43 | hent | illegal? :O now i want it |
| 12:42.59 | Xemanth^ | i'm using this repository for kde: http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde-3.5.0/ |
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| 12:43.16 | blondie | hmm |
| 12:43.18 | azeem | Xemanth^: this is bleeding edge stuff |
| 12:43.20 | resiak | Don't use that with Sarge... |
| 12:43.24 | resiak | !kde3.5 |
| 12:43.24 | dpkg | KDE 3.4 not new enough for you? 3.5 was released a matter of days ago, and it's not in debian. Ask #debian-kde, they might have ideas. |
| 12:43.47 | EdLin | Xemanth^: that's what you get for mixing repositories without knowing what that implies |
| 12:43.53 | Eulex | "Yesterday, three people was caught smuggling kde 3.5 into the US" |
| 12:43.55 | Xemanth^ | resiak: sarge doesn't have enough new libc6 |
| 12:44.00 | Xemanth^ | at least couldn't find |
| 12:44.13 | Xemanth^ | thats why i'm thinking of upgrading to etch |
| 12:44.15 | azeem | Xemanth^: right, because the KDE repo is bleeding edge stuff |
| 12:44.18 | dUICE | three people was caught smuggling kde 3.5 into the US <WHAT THE?> |
| 12:44.29 | azeem | Xemanth^: be prepared that those packages will wreck your system |
| 12:44.40 | Eulex | dUICE, ;) |
| 12:44.50 | azeem | Xemanth^: I would suggest you wait until they hit experimental, or, preferably unstable |
| 12:44.56 | azeem | then you can worry about your libc6 |
| 12:44.58 | Maakuth | Xemanth^, try gentoo or something if you really want to run bleeding edge stuff |
| 12:45.02 | Xemanth^ | azeem: i have always installed kde from that repository :) |
| 12:45.07 | azeem | Xemanth^: hrm, ok |
| 12:45.14 | azeem | Xemanth^: then maybe you could try libc6 from etch |
| 12:45.23 | azeem | Xemanth^: but we don't support this in here, you will be on your own |
| 12:45.26 | Xemanth^ | yeah |
| 12:45.52 | azeem | Xemanth^: it should suffice to get libc6 from testing, no need to upgrade the whole system I guess |
| 12:45.52 | Xemanth^ | i'll join Debian-KDE |
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| 12:52.10 | remedy | is the official nvidia driver considered better to use thant he xorg nv driver? |
| 12:52.20 | js_ | remedy: yes |
| 12:52.23 | Xemanth^ | :D |
| 12:52.40 | remedy | js_: have you compiled this driver using gcc 4? |
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| 12:53.03 | js_ | remedy: nope, it requires that the kernel is build with gcc 4 as well |
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| 12:53.24 | remedy | js_: so it seems |
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| 12:53.40 | js_ | built even |
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| 12:53.56 | js_ | remedy: you can CC=gcc-anotherversion ./NVIDIA... |
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| 12:54.33 | remedy | js_: i tried that, the compile of nvidia.o fails with lots of errors, it was fine before i upgraded :) |
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| 12:57.05 | encompass | my gftp is crashing... it is when ever I try to get alot of files, like my entire, wglr.com site. any ideas? |
| 12:57.24 | encompass | I tried getting an output from the console and it gave me a segfault |
| 12:57.51 | abrotman | try a strace ? |
| 12:57.54 | abrotman | look in the BTS ? |
| 12:57.56 | azeem | encompass: if you can reproduce it, try to run it in gdb |
| 12:58.10 | encompass | gdb? what is that? |
| 12:58.31 | encompass | I don't know how to do it... can you help me out. |
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| 12:59.20 | dUICE | i think i have found a way to install debain from windows |
| 12:59.35 | encompass | dUICE: wow, cool |
| 12:59.39 | abrotman | encompass: dpkg -l gftp | tail -1 |
| 12:59.49 | encompass | ok I will |
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| 13:01.11 | encompass | what would you like me to do with that output |
| 13:01.33 | encompass | the only thing that says err is... |
| 13:01.41 | abrotman | which out put ? |
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| 13:02.00 | abrotman | i'd like to see the version of gftp that you're using |
| 13:02.17 | encompass | 2,0,18 |
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| 13:02.59 | abrotman | encompass: there should be a number like 2.0.18-10 etc |
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| 13:03.11 | encompass | 18-10 yes |
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| 13:03.12 | encompass | sorry |
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| 13:03.22 | encompass | 2.0.18-10 |
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| 13:03.52 | abrotman | encompass: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=339977 .. does that seem similar ? |
| 13:03.54 | bizkit | when i'm going to backup all user-data on a system, is it enough to sync /var /home /etc and /srv? no need to backup binaries or such |
| 13:04.00 | encompass | checking |
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| 13:04.41 | abrotman | encompass: and you might want to `apt-get update;apt-get -u upgrade` .. since the version you're using isn't currently available any more |
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| 13:05.53 | encompass | huh Thought I did but sure I will |
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| 13:07.39 | encompass | thanks I will see if it works now |
| 13:08.26 | eliteforce | hi, i installed syslog-ng and cant start it because i get the following errors: CONSOLE_LOG_LEVEL is of unaccepted value. KERNEL_RINGBUF_SIZE is of unaccepted value. |
| 13:09.05 | SerajewelKS | where is the package for the 2.6.8 kernel sources? |
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| 13:10.30 | goccia | SerajewelKS: kernel-source-2.6.8 |
| 13:10.37 | blondie | (duh) |
| 13:10.47 | abrotman | encompass: any better ? |
| 13:10.57 | SerajewelKS | goccia: yeah, too bad that package doesn't exist |
| 13:11.01 | encompass | can' |
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| 13:11.11 | encompass | can't do it right now |
| 13:11.17 | encompass | but it looks like the same error |
| 13:11.25 | smhar | I finished installing debian unstable but still could'nt get to x |
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| 13:11.40 | abrotman | encompass: you might need to file a bug .. you're using testing/unstable right ? |
| 13:11.43 | SerajewelKS | goccia: at least not in etch, which is a major wtf |
| 13:11.47 | goccia | SerajewelKS: it is alive and kiking Inst kernel-source-2.6.8 (2.6.8-16 Debian:3.1r0/stable) |
| 13:11.57 | goccia | kick* |
| 13:12.01 | encompass | yeah |
| 13:12.02 | SerajewelKS | !info kernel-source-2.6.8 etch |
| 13:12.14 | encompass | thanks |
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| 13:12.20 | encompass | I will if it still has the error |
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| 13:12.43 | goccia | SerajewelKS: stable is a bliss :) |
| 13:12.59 | abrotman | encompass: unless you can find another reason on your end for the problem |
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| 13:13.13 | encompass | ok cool |
| 13:13.29 | SerajewelKS | is there a reason that kernel-source-2.6.8 is only in stable? |
| 13:13.30 | abrotman | encompass: strace might help |
| 13:13.35 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 13:13.47 | encompass | ok cool |
| 13:14.11 | encompass | I only need it to copy the entire site to a local dir, is there a better way? |
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| 13:14.25 | Ghoul | where do i see all the files of a program in debian? i mean what is the 'Program Files' directory here? |
| 13:14.26 | abrotman | encompass: wget can do it .. i don't know the options offhand .. man wget |
| 13:14.45 | encompass | ok cool |
| 13:14.47 | abrotman | Ghoul: there are many .. are you looking for something in particular ? |
| 13:14.54 | bbrazil | Ghoul: dpkg -L packagename |
| 13:14.56 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: try linux-image-x.x etc |
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| 13:15.10 | abrotman | bbrazil: no .. i think he means .. ALL programs |
| 13:15.24 | abrotman | or maybe not |
| 13:15.37 | Ghoul | well. in windows of course when a program is installed.. then it has files all over the place.. but most of the files/libraries are in "program files" |
| 13:15.37 | idis | Ghoul: all packages set binaries in either /bin or /sbin or /usr/bin or /usr/sbin/ |
| 13:15.41 | Ghoul | if you see what i mean |
| 13:16.00 | Ghoul | i'm browsing aronud.. cant see a definite directory for all that |
| 13:16.07 | loxley_ | Ghoul: /usr/bin/ /usr/sbin/ etc /usr/lib |
| 13:16.15 | bbrazil | Ghoul: there isn't, its speard around a bit |
| 13:16.20 | Ghoul | thnx.. :) |
| 13:16.23 | bbrazil | *spread |
| 13:16.40 | vulture | Ghoul: if you want to find where a package installed itself to: dpkg -L <packagename> as bbrazil already mentioned |
| 13:16.50 | loxley_ | Ghoul: but dpkg can be a good friend with -L option |
| 13:16.57 | Ghoul | thnx again :) ... amm actually i was wondering where the KDE files are |
| 13:17.12 | abrotman | same thing .. all over :) |
| 13:17.22 | abrotman | looking for a ceratin kde file ? |
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| 13:17.38 | Ghoul | yep. the directory with the wallpapers so i can add more :) |
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| 13:17.52 | goccia | apt-cache search program | wc >> 3833 31627 217742 : so what is program and what is a bi ? |
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| 13:17.58 | goccia | bin* |
| 13:18.09 | Ghoul | (excuse me ppl for the stupid questions... but it's tough when one comes from a windows world) |
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| 13:18.29 | bbrazil | goccia: ? |
| 13:18.40 | goccia | Ghoul: you've reached a world full of programs :) |
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| 13:19.04 | Gnea | Ghoul: watch your step on the bridge, ignore the alligators |
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| 13:19.24 | idis | Ghoul: if you want to know more, search for FHS or Filesystem Hierarchy Standard |
| 13:19.30 | abrotman | Gnea: don't you ever sleep ? |
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| 13:19.38 | Gnea | abrotman: not this weekend - gotta catch up |
| 13:19.47 | abrotman | heh |
| 13:19.51 | EdLin | idis: or man heir |
| 13:19.52 | goccia | bbrazil: yes ? :) |
| 13:20.11 | Gnea | abrotman: working on some major reconstruction, all of a sudden i can't ssh from my workstation to the server, but i can ssh from another server to the server |
| 13:20.11 | EdLin | hier* |
| 13:20.25 | bbrazil | goccia: what were you asking there? |
| 13:20.28 | Gnea | debug1: Connection established. |
| 13:20.29 | Ghoul | idis: now that's helpful :) |
| 13:20.31 | Gnea | ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host |
| 13:20.43 | abrotman | Gnea: google .. i've seen it before |
| 13:20.50 | Gnea | blahblah |
| 13:21.04 | abrotman | Gnea: no really .. i've seen it many times .. but i forget the fix |
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| 13:22.27 | idis | Ghoul: the problem of a windows world is that one never knows where the files are gonna be, whereas a package says it all, and tools tell you which package is which file and vice versa |
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| 13:23.04 | Devil_Kin | hey all.. since the last util-linux upgrade, my clock is always off by one hour at bootup - i'm in GMT+1 atm, but it seems it puts it to GMT+2, /etc/timezone is set correctly to Europe/Brussels.. any pointers to what i can try? |
| 13:23.28 | Ghoul | idis: it's not that apparent to me yet.. hope to reach enlightenment after couple of months :) |
| 13:23.33 | Gnea | abrotman: ROFL - hosts.deny |
| 13:23.37 | abrotman | what ? |
| 13:23.44 | Gnea | abrotman: i forgot portsentry goes apeshit ;) |
| 13:23.45 | abrotman | Gnea: you setup your hosts.deny ? |
| 13:23.57 | abrotman | Gnea: good thing you love google! |
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| 13:24.06 | Gnea | yup, first hit too lol |
| 13:24.09 | fatal | Devil_Kin: your hardware clock setting might be wrong .... (save localtime vs save GMT in hardware clock) |
| 13:24.25 | idis | Ghoul: try some tool like dlocate, tells you file<->package |
| 13:24.43 | Gnea | it's not too bad, only 615 ips were banned |
| 13:24.54 | fatal | Devil_Kin: but otoh, that would probably not be a problem unless you're dualbooting windows. |
| 13:24.54 | Devil_Kin | fatal: it needs to save GMT? or? |
| 13:24.59 | idis | Ghoul: and know for the basic tree structure |
| 13:25.34 | fatal | Devil_Kin: saving GMT is the default I beleive.... but Windows saves localtime in hardware clock. |
| 13:25.46 | Ghoul | idis: bash: dlocate: command not found |
| 13:25.51 | Ghoul | apparently i don't have it |
| 13:25.57 | idis | Ghoul: have to install it :) |
| 13:26.03 | eigenlambda | UTC |
| 13:26.09 | idis | eigenlambda: +1 |
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| 13:26.38 | yang | is there a channel for www translators? |
| 13:26.40 | Devil_Kin | fatal: hmm, right.. thanks.. i'm actually confused atm because i thought i was seeing it also when rebooting linux->linux.. i'll have to check again, thanks anyway |
| 13:27.11 | Ghoul | whoa idis you truly did hit the matter of my question.. |
| 13:27.36 | Ghoul | apt-get install dlocate :) very nice.. i'm getting the hang of things in my 1st day :) |
| 13:27.51 | idis | Ghoul: been there, done that |
| 13:27.51 | fatal | Devil_Kin: finally found the setting for hardware clock... it's in /etc/default/rcS ... just in case it actually is that which is causing your problems. :) |
| 13:29.05 | azeem | yang: what exactly do you mean with www translators? Translating www.debian.org? |
| 13:29.38 | Devil_Kin | fatal: i found that, UTC is set to "no" |
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| 13:30.21 | yang | azeem: yes |
| 13:30.38 | yang | Are there any more ntp servers, NTPSERVERS="pool.ntp.org" seems to time out |
| 13:31.06 | azeem | yang: not sure there's a dedicated channel |
| 13:31.33 | azeem | yang: do you want to translate it to a new language, or report some errors for an existing translation? |
| 13:31.48 | decklin | yang: just try again, it's a round-robin. |
| 13:32.28 | yang | azeem: into new language |
| 13:32.37 | abrotman | yeah .. but if he picks .. www.ch.debian.org .. shouldn't that always work etc ? |
| 13:32.51 | azeem | yang: maybe it would be easiest to mail debian-www@lists.debian.org |
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| 13:33.56 | valdyn | yang: lots, pool is just a redirector too i think |
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| 13:34.59 | idis | yang: some nice list at www.ntp.org |
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| 13:35.19 | yang | idis: dig pool.ntp.org a helped |
| 13:35.22 | abrotman | yeah .. but pool.ntp.org should work |
| 13:36.07 | idis | depends how many ntp sources you want to sync with |
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| 13:36.15 | yang | its a cool thing for baterry less machines |
| 13:36.17 | doub | hi there |
| 13:36.20 | SnarceZ | hi all |
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| 13:36.25 | FuSioN | hello doub |
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| 13:36.49 | SnarceZ | can I ask you a thing a bout amule? |
| 13:37.08 | valdyn | !ask |
| 13:37.08 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 13:37.22 | FuSioN | someone know if xorg is in the debian testing version ? or just in the unstable version ? |
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| 13:37.30 | abrotman | it's in testing |
| 13:37.35 | FuSioN | ah cool :) |
| 13:37.36 | abrotman | !info xserver-xorg etch |
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| 13:37.42 | SnarceZ | ok! |
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| 13:38.05 | yang | SnarceZ: go to #amule |
| 13:38.10 | doub | i'm having some kind of trouble with debmirror : trying to create a arch-complete mirror (source,binary for i386, stable,testing,unstable). however, due to a lack of some files on the originating ftp (ftp2.fr.debian.org), it refuses to create sid Packages files. is it possible to force it in some way or another? |
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| 13:38.27 | sdakota | hi |
| 13:38.29 | FuSioN | !info xserver-xorg etch |
| 13:38.30 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 13:38.30 | dpkg | niihau, abrotman |
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| 13:38.49 | sdakota | DNSreport.com tells me: Nameserver 82.168.141.105 did not provide any IPs (that nameserver is my own server, running bind9 |
| 13:39.04 | SnarceZ | when I minimize amule in systray i goes in the upper left corner and not on the bar where it used to go... anyone knows why? |
| 13:39.27 | valdyn | SnarceZ: it goes wherever you put the gnome applet handling 'systray' |
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| 13:40.25 | valdyn | SnarceZ: so in that order: quit amule, remove that notification applet, add a notification applet wherever you want it to be, start amule |
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| 13:40.49 | morluk | hi |
| 13:40.59 | SnarceZ | where can i find this applet |
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| 13:41.06 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: i think !info is broken |
| 13:41.20 | FuSioN | yes :/ |
| 13:41.21 | valdyn | SnarceZ: rightclick on panel, select 'add to panel' |
| 13:41.24 | SnarceZ | im' new of linux ... |
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| 13:42.32 | sdakota | DNSreport.com tells me: Nameserver 82.168.141.105 did not provide any IPs (that nameserver is my own server, running bind9 |
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| 13:43.37 | idis | !wayttd sdakota |
| 13:43.38 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, sdakota? |
| 13:43.41 | abrotman | sdakota: try another web checker |
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| 13:44.43 | sdakota | idis: I was setting up my nameserver and did an online dns report, and this came out |
| 13:44.52 | sdakota | abrotman: I only know this one |
| 13:45.00 | abrotman | sdakota: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=dns+check&btnG=Google+Search |
| 13:45.31 | deadcat | is it me or bash is getting shittier? |
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| 13:45.44 | sdakota | abrotman: I'll do a random check and give you the output |
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| 13:45.55 | doub | deadcat: "it's not a bug, it's a feature" ;) |
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| 13:46.00 | Eclipser | how do I disable vesafb from loading? :o |
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| 13:46.15 | deadcat | doub: i aint laughing.. |
| 13:46.27 | deadcat | Eclipser: vga=normal? |
| 13:46.28 | Eclipser | I added skip vesafb in /etc/discover.conf |
| 13:46.31 | doub | deadcat: well, i don't either, unfortunately |
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| 13:46.55 | Eclipser | deadcat, that's default in lilo |
| 13:47.03 | Ethics | hmm im having trouble with dvdrip trying to do some images on my hdd....i think its just my syntax but ive tried all the ways id expect it, anyone used this recently to work from hdd imgaes? |
| 13:47.16 | deadcat | doub: i am using the latest in sid with screen. it doesnt it as login shell or something. |
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| 13:48.10 | valdyn | deadcat: why's that surprising? |
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| 13:48.54 | deadcat | valdyn: i have printf "\033)0" in .bash_profile so i can get the special chars to work. but now its not working anymore.. same settings i've been using and working |
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| 13:49.27 | }{ermes | hi friend, anyone can help me to give a link for make a custom debian cd installer? |
| 13:49.38 | doub | why are sid kernels compiled with gcc 4.0 ? seems like it prevents many external modules from compiling |
| 13:49.44 | }{ermes | i want install my new raid system but require 2.6.14 kernel |
| 13:49.52 | valdyn | deadcat: ctr-a+c in screen does not open a login shell |
| 13:49.55 | js_ | doub: compile the modules with gcc 4 |
| 13:49.56 | deadcat | doub: then use 4.0 to compile |
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| 13:49.57 | sdakota | abrotman, this test seems to work |
| 13:50.15 | sdakota | abrotman: look at http://www.dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=dazjorz.com |
| 13:50.20 | abrotman | sdakota: wait a bit and try the other again |
| 13:50.26 | deadcat | valdyn: i have shell -$SHELL in .screenrc |
| 13:50.42 | doub | deadcat, js_: that's already what i do, but these won't compile with gcc4, so i guess i have to recompile the kernel with 3.4, and then the modules |
| 13:50.47 | abrotman | sdakota: so what's the problem ? |
| 13:51.01 | sdakota | abrotman: Nameserver 82.168.141.105 did not provide any IPs |
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| 13:51.34 | abrotman | sdakota: that's only a warn .. you should be more concerned with the FAILs |
| 13:52.06 | sdakota | abrotman: the only fail is the less then 2 nameservers - but if people go to dazjorz.com, they still fail |
| 13:52.21 | abrotman | sdakota: i see two other fails |
| 13:52.37 | valdyn | deadcat: dont know about that, you might want to try 'su - user' |
| 13:52.52 | sdakota | abrotman: Eah, yea, you're right - the reverse DNS entries for MX, and connect to mail servers - the other DNS site does work in here |
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| 13:53.10 | sdakota | abrotman: plus, the "reverse dns tool" at dnsstuff.com does give back the right IP here |
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| 13:53.22 | deadcat | valdyn: man screen /shell command |
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| 13:53.42 | deadcat | valdyn: /login-shell |
| 13:53.47 | abrotman | sdakota: obviously i can't see your bind files .. ask #dns if they know more about what is wrong |
| 13:53.58 | sdakota | abrotman: i'll try |
| 13:54.30 | abrotman | sdakota: they may want an A record for ns1.domain.com |
| 13:54.46 | sdakota | abrotman: ok |
| 13:54.55 | abrotman | sdakota: it's just a guess |
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| 13:56.05 | sdakota | abrotman: i'll try to add it |
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| 13:56.37 | sdakota | abrotman: I'll add a cname for ns1: ns1 IN CNAME server |
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| 13:56.57 | abrotman | erm .. ok .. but it seems to want an A record |
| 13:57.12 | Woody^working | I am using vim, but I want to limit the lenght of the line to 80 characters and moving everything larger than 80 characters in the next line |
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| 13:57.32 | Woody^working | And I want to increment the line number. |
| 13:57.47 | Woody^working | I use textwidth=80 |
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| 13:57.57 | sdakota | abrotman: you see, the first table of MX test? Your 1 MX record is: 10 mail.dazjorz.com. [TTL=86400] IP=[No Glue, No A record] |
| 13:58.05 | Woody^working | But it won`t do what I want |
| 13:58.13 | abrotman | sdakota: what about it ? |
| 13:58.15 | Woody^working | Anyone does this too ? |
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| 13:59.33 | sdakota | abrotman: look at the IP! |
| 13:59.55 | abrotman | sdakota: says it's valid .. no idea |
| 14:00.19 | sdakota | abrotman: "No Glue, No A record" |
| 14:00.30 | mordain | anyone know how to make gnu c preprocessor display "System-specific Predefined Macros" ? I searched the web and got "cpp -dM", but that don't work |
| 14:00.39 | abrotman | sdakota: but it ways it's ok .. |
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| 14:01.26 | abrotman | err it says it's ok |
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| 14:01.44 | sdakota | abrotman: Mail record: " IN MX 10 mail.dazjorz.com." Cname record: "mail IN CNAME server" A record: "server IN A 82.168.141.105" which probably forwards mail to mail.dazjorz.com to 82.168.141.105... |
| 14:02.16 | Eclipser | eh |
| 14:02.28 | Eclipser | this vesafb thing isn't liking me |
| 14:02.40 | Eclipser | I even removed the damn module and it still loads in boot |
| 14:02.41 | sdakota | Eclipser, it isn't liking you? ^_^ |
| 14:02.46 | sdakota | lol |
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| 14:03.16 | abrotman | sdakota: ok ... so what's wrong ? |
| 14:03.20 | sdakota | Eclipser: it's a module? looked at /etc/modules? |
| 14:03.37 | sdakota | abrotman: mail is failing to be sent plús people aren't able to go to dazjorz.co |
| 14:03.38 | sdakota | +m |
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| 14:04.01 | Eulex | Eclipser, do you have a VGA=whatever kernel option? |
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| 14:04.05 | ma3x | do you people play some of the games in debian? |
| 14:04.12 | abrotman | sdakota: looks like your apache is misconfigured for your website .. what's the index page ? |
| 14:04.20 | abrotman | ma3x: sure .. |
| 14:04.35 | ma3x | abrotman, what do you play? |
| 14:04.37 | rage | Hey, I'm making a quick little shell script, I'm hoping I can draw a box around some text. Does anyone know a quick way of drawing echoing out lines into consoles without using ncurses or anything? |
| 14:04.39 | hent | ma3x: tuxracer :D |
| 14:04.42 | sdakota | abrotman: no, people can't even resolve the host. |
| 14:04.46 | hent | ma3x: quake 3 |
| 14:04.49 | ma3x | hent, I mean something in multiplayer |
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| 14:04.59 | ma3x | hent, well my laptop is not powerful enough for quake |
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| 14:05.05 | ma3x | otherwise i'd blast your ass. |
| 14:05.10 | abrotman | sdakota: i just did |
| 14:05.11 | hent | ma3x: used to play world of warcraft |
| 14:05.20 | hent | ma3x: try bzflag |
| 14:05.21 | kingsley | Which command, if any, reports how many files are in an ext3 filesystem? |
| 14:05.22 | abrotman | sdakota: something is wrong with your mailserver though .. i can't even connect via IP |
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| 14:05.31 | Eulex | ma3x, scorched3d, blobwars etc |
| 14:05.36 | sdakota | abrotman: it can't resolve - i'm trying to solve it at #dns now |
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| 14:05.51 | abrotman | Forbidden |
| 14:05.52 | abrotman | You don't have permission to access / on this server. |
| 14:05.52 | abrotman | Apache/1.3.33 Server at dazjorz.com Port 80 |
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| 14:06.16 | abrotman | sdakota: it resolves .. it just doesn't work :) |
| 14:06.24 | valdyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:06.30 | sdakota | valdyn: that's the problem |
| 14:06.34 | sdakota | abrotman: it doesn't |
| 14:06.34 | abrotman | valdyn: resolves for me |
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| 14:06.39 | Xemanth | what i'm doing wrong deb http://packages.debian.org/testing/libs/libc6 ./ ? |
| 14:06.41 | sdakota | zone file: http://pastebin.ca/33284 |
| 14:06.56 | abrotman | Non-authoritative answer: |
| 14:06.56 | abrotman | Name: dazjorz.com |
| 14:06.56 | abrotman | Address: 82.168.141.105 |
| 14:07.21 | abrotman | sdakota: what is the index file ? |
| 14:07.29 | sdakota | abrotman: index file? |
| 14:07.33 | Eulex | Xenguy, well, you can't do like that |
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| 14:07.51 | Eulex | sorry Xenguy -- Xemanth ^^ |
| 14:07.53 | Xemanth | Eulex: was that for me... that Xenguy :D |
| 14:08.03 | sdakota | LOL |
| 14:08.04 | Xemanth | ok |
| 14:08.14 | Eulex | Xemanth, auto complete is teh evil |
| 14:08.15 | abrotman | sdakota: give me a page that i might see .. like http://dazjorz.com/info.php or http://dazjorz.com/contact.html |
| 14:08.17 | sdakota | Xenguy ^^ |
| 14:08.28 | Eclipser | Eulex, there's vga=normal in lilo.conf |
| 14:08.38 | Xemanth | Eulex: o.k. apt-get update complains that it can't find it. What should I put to source.list ? |
| 14:08.51 | sdakota | abrotman: the thing you will probably see is "forbidden - / is forbidden", because I still need to configure apache (I want apache2, but have apache1.3 now) |
| 14:08.56 | Eulex | Eclipser, then I dunno |
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| 14:09.17 | abrotman | sdakota: well .. that's what i'm seeing .. the name resolves here .. and the apache works .. your mailserver is actually broken though |
| 14:09.18 | mordain | cpp -dM /dev/null, was the answer... FYI |
| 14:09.27 | abrotman | oh .. wait .. that works too |
| 14:09.28 | Eclipser | sdakota, it's not in /etc/modules and I put 'skip vesafb' in /etc/discover.conf |
| 14:09.32 | abrotman | sdakota: you're using postfix! |
| 14:09.41 | Eulex | Xemanth, you need to add the full apt source for testing in sources.list. then you make stable default-release and install libc6 from testing with apt-get install -t testing libc6 |
| 14:09.49 | goccia | rage: echo -e '\E[37;44m'"\033[1blabla?\033[0m" |
| 14:09.53 | sdakota | abrotman: Yes, I am ! ... So, it probably works then? ;) |
| 14:10.06 | abrotman | sdakota: except your apache is screwed up |
| 14:10.12 | abrotman | sdakota: and you have no PTR records |
| 14:10.30 | sdakota | abrotman: I don't, no. the only zone using PTR records is the reverse DNS |
| 14:10.48 | Xemanth | Eulex: ah |
| 14:10.55 | Xemanth | Eulex: thanks i'll try that |
| 14:10.58 | valdyn | my nameserver seems fine, just dazjorz.com cant be resolved, i guess its just not updating that often |
| 14:11.01 | cahoot | Eclipser: hotplug isn't the culprit? |
| 14:11.11 | abrotman | valdyn: try another dns server! |
| 14:11.26 | valdyn | !dns |
| 14:11.36 | sdakota | !dns |
| 14:11.38 | sdakota | !tell me about dns |
| 14:11.49 | abrotman | !hi |
| 14:11.49 | dpkg | hello, abrotman |
| 14:12.04 | Eclipser | cahoot, dmesg doesn't have anything of vesafb though but it still lists it in lsmod :o |
| 14:12.15 | Eulex | Xemanth, to make stable default-release, create /etc/apt/apt.conf and put APT::Default-Release "stable"; in it |
| 14:12.16 | Eclipser | I'll try to disable it from hotplug too |
| 14:12.35 | Eulex | Eclipser, stable or testing/unstable? |
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| 14:13.04 | Eclipser | stable |
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| 14:13.28 | valdyn | sdakota: http://www.checkdns.net/quickcheck.aspx?domain=dazjorz.com&detailed=1 |
| 14:13.32 | Eclipser | I'll boot again... |
| 14:13.34 | Eulex | !blacklist |
| 14:13.34 | dpkg | methinks blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 14:13.42 | sdakota | valdyn: I know that site |
| 14:13.50 | Eclipser | Eulex, I read that already :p |
| 14:13.51 | sdakota | valdyn: used it about 5 minutes ago ;) |
| 14:14.12 | abrotman | valdyn: that's how we got started :) |
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| 14:15.50 | Eulex | Eclipser, ok |
| 14:16.24 | Eclipser | lsmod still says vesafb is loaded... |
| 14:16.50 | Eulex | Eclipser, any reason you don't want it to load? |
| 14:17.20 | Eclipser | it most likely is the one which screwes up fglrx... |
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| 14:18.33 | doub | there's an error in the Packages file for the sid distribution: tomcat5 is listed as being in main whereas it's in contrib. where can I send a bug report? |
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| 14:18.43 | sebas1 | una cosa alguien me puede decir como monto un reproductor mp3 |
| 14:18.51 | Eulex | Eclipser, never heard about vesafb screwing up fglrx. though I've heard that radeonfb often does it. you could try and unload vesafb before you start X... |
| 14:18.52 | doub | !es |
| 14:18.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 14:19.01 | Eclipser | Eulex, I don't have radeonfb |
| 14:19.11 | sebas1 | ok |
| 14:19.16 | sebas1 | sorry |
| 14:19.31 | Fujoor | hey people, what is the commmand to mount a usb stick? |
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| 14:19.33 | Fujoor | mount usb? |
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| 14:20.28 | Eulex | Fujoor, mount -t fs /dev/sdXN /mountpoint |
| 14:20.49 | Fujoor | what is mountpoint |
| 14:20.57 | Eulex | Eclipser, what problems do you have with fglrx? |
| 14:21.06 | valdyn | abrotman: im not entirely clear what this means: dazjorz.com. 172800 IN NS ns1.dazjorz.com. |
| 14:21.29 | Eulex | Fujoor, where in your fs you want to put it. usually something like /mnt/usb (you'll have to create it first) |
| 14:21.40 | Fujoor | ahaa |
| 14:21.44 | Fujoor | thank you |
| 14:21.45 | abrotman | sdakota: where's that zone file again ? |
| 14:22.13 | sdakota | http://pastebin.ca/33284 |
| 14:22.39 | smhar | I installed debian sid with 2.4 kernel to solve a network problem.. now that my system is up and running -in text console mode- I want to upgrade the system to a 2.6 kernel. how to do this using a ready-made debian kernel package. will an apt-get install new-kernel-name work? |
| 14:22.40 | Fujoor | it says dev/sdxn doesnt exist |
| 14:22.44 | Eclipser | Eulex, various problems including http://rafb.net/paste/results/c9YKQW76.html |
| 14:22.57 | valdyn | abrotman: but ns1.dazjorz.com is not working, so i guess dazjorz.com shouldnt resolve |
| 14:23.08 | abrotman | valdyn: i don't understand the number .. but he gave aa NS record to ns1 which is a CNAME for server |
| 14:23.09 | hawking | I am going to install debian and trying to find out the best way how to do my disk partition. my computer will both be a desktop and a web-server... I have windows in /dev/hda1 and /dev/hda2 ... and the rest is 20 Gbs .. what is the best partition plan? |
| 14:23.27 | Eclipser | Eulex, after running some opengl app and logging out and in does that or then it complitely screws up the display (blinking different colors) |
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| 14:23.49 | valdyn | abrotman: but since some dns server still resolve it they must have answers cached |
| 14:23.57 | abrotman | valdyn: it's iffy .. sometimes resolves .. sometimes doesn't |
| 14:24.10 | Xemanth | damn i need alot more packages than libc6 ^^ o.k. gonna do full upgrade to Etch :) |
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| 14:24.23 | Eulex | Eclipser, checked the X log? |
| 14:24.25 | ice_1963 | apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686or k7 :0) |
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| 14:24.39 | abrotman | valdyn: ns1.domain seems to always resolve .. but server.domain doesn't |
| 14:24.51 | abrotman | oh .. now it does |
| 14:25.12 | valdyn | abrotman: right, and as i understand it ns1.dazjorz.com should resolve that domain, but it doesnt |
| 14:25.50 | abrotman | valdyn: seems to here |
| 14:25.54 | abrotman | nslookup server.dazjorz.com ns1.dazjorz.com |
| 14:25.57 | redge- | can i get kde 3.5 to be installed on sarge? |
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| 14:26.31 | valdyn | abrotman: dig @ns1.dazjorz.com dazjorz.com <- no response |
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| 14:26.52 | abrotman | valdyn: your machine is broken :) |
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| 14:27.57 | sdakota | abrotman: i've got the same |
| 14:28.04 | Eulex | I just got the following in my log: http://pastebin.com/459460. I've never seen anything like it. anyone know what it means? |
| 14:28.09 | valdyn | sdakota: your machine isnt on dsl, is it? |
| 14:28.12 | abrotman | i have the world's best dns! |
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| 14:29.07 | abrotman | valdyn: we're so good! .. we drove him away! |
| 14:29.30 | smhar | I tried apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 14:29.39 | abrotman | and ? |
| 14:29.41 | smhar | but it gave: failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-2-686 on running kernel 2.4.27-2 |
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| 14:30.43 | ice_1963 | well shi |
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| 14:31.07 | valdyn | very funny that his box is doing dns lookups just not for certain subnet(s) |
| 14:31.21 | Techdeck | guys, whats the solution to the new problem with debian's kernel-image? it says I dont have mkinitrd |
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| 14:31.35 | abrotman | valdyn: dunno .. it all seemed to work ok here .. except his apache is all screwed up |
| 14:31.42 | smhar | in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitrd/mkinitramfs |
| 14:31.55 | darkcmd | how is everyone? |
| 14:31.55 | ice_1963 | why do won't newer kernel then that one?? |
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| 14:32.03 | valdyn | abrotman: yea, exactly, i can even ping his ip, but his IP has no name server on it from here |
| 14:32.04 | Techdeck | smhar: ? |
| 14:32.11 | smhar | Techdeck: yes |
| 14:32.15 | Techdeck | smhar: I do have it though |
| 14:32.21 | abrotman | valdyn: he needs to fix some of those issues .. including the PTR issue |
| 14:32.27 | Eclipser | meh |
| 14:32.33 | Eclipser | I'll just compile a new kernel........ |
| 14:32.38 | smhar | this is a fresh sid install |
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| 14:32.54 | darkcmd | I could never use Sid |
| 14:33.01 | darkcmd | couldn't stand the breakage |
| 14:33.28 | valdyn | abrotman: its his isp too i bet, tiscali is the worst pos |
| 14:33.31 | smhar | I've had breakages with etch as well |
| 14:33.41 | ice_1963 | sid is not that bad |
| 14:33.44 | doublehp | is it possible to 'eject USB/scsi' ? I do NOT want to eject a REMOVABLE MEDIA, but ask udev to stop the device, and redetect is /AS IF/ the USB cable had been unplugged, without actually doing that physically, nor unload the USB module. Some thing around udev or scsi ... |
| 14:33.51 | abrotman | valdyn: well .. if his ISP doesn't give generic PTR . he should make his own |
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| 14:34.11 | darkcmd | I use Sarge |
| 14:34.12 | goccia | Eclipser: when sarge was released i rember some talking about vesafb while installing : i cannot find a pointer but i'm quite sure of this |
| 14:34.31 | valdyn | abrotman: here they go out of their way to block p2p things and break various other stuff just as side effect |
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| 14:34.54 | abrotman | valdyn: on your ISP or his ? |
| 14:34.59 | nostur | hi, can anyone tell me, how to set u, that after boot i will be put into console and not into graphical login? |
| 14:35.04 | PhoenixMan | Hi, uh, I'm stupid. I have a website. How do I add subdomains? |
| 14:35.05 | EdLin | !u |
| 14:35.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:35.05 | valdyn | abrotman: tiscali , his isp |
| 14:35.21 | abrotman | valdyn: oh .. i just have comcast .. they can't keep DNS servers running :) |
| 14:35.29 | EdLin | !tell nostur about noxdm |
| 14:35.35 | PhoenixMan | dpkg: I'm dutch. |
| 14:35.35 | abrotman | nodm ? |
| 14:35.36 | cahoot | EdLin: a bit fast - I believe it was a typo for up |
| 14:35.38 | EdLin | oops |
| 14:35.42 | PhoenixMan | !u |
| 14:35.42 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:35.45 | Techdeck | anyone knows how to fix that kernel problem? |
| 14:35.49 | PhoenixMan | !u !I'm dutch |
| 14:35.57 | doublehp | every day, I receive an email from localhost: "unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname()" why ? whats wrong ? |
| 14:36.02 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: dpkg is a bot |
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| 14:36.33 | nostur | EdLin: inst dpkg a little idle? |
| 14:36.53 | doublehp | Techdeck: cant find kernel problems in my IRC logs |
| 14:36.55 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 14:37.16 | PhoenixMan | abrotman: I know. :( |
| 14:37.41 | nostur | abrotman: dpkg is not working, so can u tell me anything about noxdm? on google nothing |
| 14:37.43 | PhoenixMan | Uh.. I have a domain called hyperbyond.com. Is it possible to me to add subdomains to this, without needing to talk to my webhost all the time? |
| 14:37.44 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: you want like domain1.site.com and domain2.site.com ? |
| 14:37.52 | abrotman | !tell nostur about nodm |
| 14:38.00 | PhoenixMan | Yeah |
| 14:38.01 | PhoenixMan | I guess |
| 14:38.05 | nostur | well, thx |
| 14:38.06 | abrotman | in your DNS |
| 14:38.11 | PhoenixMan | Uh |
| 14:38.14 | PhoenixMan | How dfo I change my DNS? :D |
| 14:38.23 | predius_ | PhoenixMan: /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:38.36 | EdLin | nostur: lagging? Perhaps, but not as much as me |
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| 14:38.52 | PhoenixMan | it says |
| 14:38.53 | PhoenixMan | search hyperbyond.com |
| 14:38.54 | PhoenixMan | nameserver 209.94.40.2 |
| 14:39.19 | abrotman | predius_: no |
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| 14:39.29 | Pimpi | PhoenixMan: do you need it only wor web stuff or also for other services? |
| 14:39.29 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: do you have control of your zone files ? |
| 14:39.39 | PhoenixMan | ?? |
| 14:39.40 | Pimpi | s/wor/for |
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| 14:39.44 | PhoenixMan | I just want to add subdomains |
| 14:39.47 | PhoenixMan | Like forums.hyperbyond.com |
| 14:39.56 | abrotman | yes .. do you have control of your DNS zone files ? |
| 14:40.06 | Pimpi | PhoenixMan: technically nothing like subdomains exist |
| 14:40.06 | PhoenixMan | Uh... I don't even know what a DNS zone file is. |
| 14:40.08 | SlayerXP | " BYOND HostingFREE!Basic BYOND Hosting. This is done through the HostServer system." |
| 14:40.16 | SlayerXP | yet another cluesless hosting kiddies. |
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| 14:40.27 | PhoenixMan | ....what? |
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| 14:41.28 | Pimpi | PhoenixMan: do you only want subdomains for websites? or dou you want also subdomains for mail, irc, etc.? |
| 14:41.37 | PhoenixMan | just for websites |
| 14:41.38 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: who is rockdriver.net ? |
| 14:41.47 | PhoenixMan | Our host |
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| 14:41.59 | PhoenixMan | They host the mailserver at mail.hyperbyond.com and such |
| 14:42.12 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: they seem to control your DNS .. ask them to add forums.hyperbyond.com |
| 14:42.23 | PhoenixMan | Ok |
| 14:42.23 | abrotman | PhoenixMan: whois hyperbyond.com |
| 14:42.34 | darkcmd | hahah they control your dns |
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| 14:42.52 | PhoenixMan | ...eh? |
| 14:42.55 | darkcmd | I bought a domain myself, and added the dns servers with some freedns services, and I could add zones and such myself |
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| 14:43.06 | Pimpi | PhoenixMan: if you have access to the webserverconfiguration you can add different virtual hosts for different subdomains. Alternativly you can specify alias or rewrite directions on your .htaccess file |
| 14:43.07 | darkcmd | it's always the best way to do these things, since you have control over your purchases |
| 14:43.22 | PhoenixMan | I'm not the owner of it all. I just do BYOND-related things |
| 14:43.34 | stogov | Test |
| 14:43.38 | abrotman | Pimpi: the hostname doesn't exist ... |
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| 14:43.45 | darkcmd | no I meant you should have gotten your own dns services going |
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| 14:43.49 | darkcmd | rather than your hosts |
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| 14:44.41 | Pimpi | PhoenixMan: do you already own that domain and do you have a hoster for it? |
| 14:44.58 | abrotman | wtf |
| 14:45.05 | jvw | Pimpi: that was already established in backscroll |
| 14:45.25 | PhoenixMan | There's a hoster for it |
| 14:45.37 | PhoenixMan | *cough* I should talk to the hoster |
| 14:45.41 | doublehp | is it possible to 'eject USB/scsi' ? I do NOT want to eject a REMOVABLE MEDIA, but ask udev to stop the device, and redetect is /AS IF/ the USB cable had been unplugged, without actually doing that physically, nor unload the USB module. Some thing around udev or scsi ... |
| 14:45.41 | abrotman | he owns hyperbyond.com .. he doesn't control the DNS .. he'd like to add forums.hyperbyond.com but needs to configure DNS(and probably web too) |
| 14:45.43 | doublehp | every day, I receive an email from localhost: "unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname()" why ? whats wrong ? |
| 14:45.50 | nostur | abrotman: if i do apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm and then "update-rc.d -f xdm remove, should boot into console, where i login and start graphical with startx ? |
| 14:46.00 | abrotman | nostur: sure |
| 14:46.11 | nostur | nice, thx |
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| 14:46.16 | nostur | iam gonna be hardcore :D |
| 14:46.22 | Pimpi | abrotman: he dosnt' yet know what he really wants, thats the point |
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| 14:46.35 | nostur | abrotman: one more thing, how i can disable dm? |
| 14:46.40 | abrotman | Pimpi: he seems to have said it .. quite a while ago |
| 14:46.50 | abrotman | nostur: dm ? |
| 14:46.52 | darkcmd | man these byond games look horrid |
| 14:46.53 | jvw | Pimpi: eh, he does know what he wants, just not how to achieve that |
| 14:46.57 | mops | display manager |
| 14:46.59 | jvw | Pimpi: that's why he came here, to ask for help |
| 14:47.05 | mammoth | ciao nessun italiano? |
| 14:47.08 | abrotman | mops: i know what it means .. does he ? |
| 14:47.10 | mops | nostur: turn it off in init scripts |
| 14:47.21 | valdyn | ohoh |
| 14:47.24 | abrotman | nostur: if you remove all those packages .. you won't have a DM left |
| 14:47.24 | mops | nostur: use sysv-rc-conf |
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| 14:47.37 | valdyn | nostur: /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
| 14:47.39 | nostur | abrotman: hehe, but, what dm is at all? |
| 14:47.42 | mops | nostur: yes, don't remove them, just don't use them :) |
| 14:47.46 | nostur | valdyn: i know about it |
| 14:47.46 | abrotman | !dm |
| 14:47.47 | dpkg | DM means display manager. xdm, gdm, kdm, wdm, pdm, and login.app are all examples of display managers. Ask me about nodm if you want to disable the DM. |
| 14:47.51 | mammoth | italian |
| 14:47.52 | Pimpi | jvw: so yes, i tried to tell him how to archieve it, he wants to edit his .htaccess and he doent want to edit his zone file |
| 14:47.55 | mammoth | napoli |
| 14:47.58 | mammoth | napoli |
| 14:48.02 | abrotman | !it |
| 14:48.03 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 14:48.03 | valdyn | nostur: why ask how to disable dm then? |
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| 14:48.09 | nostur | mops: but i need to boot into console, from where i can startx |
| 14:48.10 | jvw | Pimpi: err, then *you* don't know how it works |
| 14:48.23 | ma3x | chromium is a cool game! |
| 14:48.24 | mammoth | italiani..........................................?????????????????????? |
| 14:48.25 | mops | nostur: that's what I said to you :) |
| 14:48.26 | nostur | so iam kinda lost, what to do now..., remove the packages and then update? |
| 14:48.31 | abrotman | !tell mammoth about it |
| 14:48.41 | nostur | mops: use sysv-rc-conf ? |
| 14:48.42 | valdyn | nostur: EDIT /etc/X11/default-display-manager |
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| 14:48.52 | abrotman | Pimpi: i have no idea what you're gong on about .. but his .htaccess has nothing to do with his zone files |
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| 14:49.04 | Pimpi | abrotman: yep, exactly |
| 14:49.16 | nostur | valdyn: /usr/bin/gdm what to put instead of gdm to boot into console,? /usr/bin/bash ? |
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| 14:49.23 | mops | nostur: you can switch to console, of course when you have login screen of dm |
| 14:49.36 | mops | and then stop xdm and then start it :) |
| 14:49.39 | nostur | mops: i dont wanna switch, i want to have default the bash |
| 14:49.41 | abrotman | regardless .. his first step is to call his dns hosting people |
| 14:49.46 | valdyn | nostur: whatever you want that is not a dm, 'false' is probably reasonable |
| 14:49.46 | mops | you have 10000 of possibilities :) |
| 14:49.54 | nostur | valdyn: thx |
| 14:49.59 | valdyn | nostur: but 2osiehaoshgd is probably just as good |
| 14:50.10 | Pimpi | abrotman: but why do you want him to frickle with zone files when everything he wants can be done by apache without touching dns at all? |
| 14:50.19 | nostur | valdyn: wtf? 2osiehaoshgd? |
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| 14:50.30 | jvw | Pimpi: dude, please stop if you don't know what you're talking about :) |
| 14:50.34 | valdyn | nostur: for instance, yap |
| 14:50.43 | abrotman | Pimpi: he wants 'forums.hyperbyond.com' ... |
| 14:50.57 | nostur | valdyn: so put in the file the 2osiehaoshgd |
| 14:50.59 | nostur | yes? |
| 14:51.08 | jvw | Pimpi: We all appreciate it if you want to help people, but inaccurate help is worse than no help |
| 14:51.10 | valdyn | nostur: yea |
| 14:51.29 | Pimpi | abrotman: yep, can be done by apache all alone... using .htaccess |
| 14:51.39 | abrotman | Pimpi: No, it can't |
| 14:51.43 | valdyn | nostur: i'd choose something more verbsoe though, like 'nodm' or somesuch |
| 14:51.45 | jvw | Pimpi: try to point your browser to forums.hyperbyond.com |
| 14:51.57 | jvw | Pimpi: you won't even *contact* his apache server, so whatever is configured there, doesn't matter |
| 14:51.57 | Pimpi | jvw: it's not inaccurate, i did it several times ago |
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| 14:52.00 | competenCe | how do i change the ulimit on a old kernal( linux 2.2) ? |
| 14:52.31 | nostur | going to try it |
| 14:52.38 | abrotman | ** server can't find forums.hyperbyond.com: NXDOMAIN |
| 14:52.39 | messia | reboot |
| 14:52.44 | jvw | Pimpi: one last time: *HIS DNS NAME DOES NOT EXIST YET FOR forums.foo* |
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| 14:53.35 | jvw | also, "technically subdomains do not exist" is simply factually wrong |
| 14:54.02 | Eulex | competenCe, ulimit -whatever limit does not work? |
| 14:54.10 | Pimpi | jvw: ok, everything exept . is a subdomain then |
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| 14:54.16 | competenCe | i have to change the hard limit |
| 14:54.26 | abrotman | except what ? |
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| 14:54.49 | Eulex | CompWizrd, "hard limit"? |
| 14:54.50 | abrotman | hrm .. i hate it when my HDD makes that noise |
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| 14:55.00 | Pimpi | abrotman: look into your named.conf, you'll find . |
| 14:55.26 | jvw | Pimpi: . is not a domain, so, actually, no, but whatever -- it's clear what's typically meant with 'subdomain', so why be pedenatic about terminology of domain vs subdomain? |
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| 14:56.08 | abrotman | Pimpi: i know what's there ... |
| 14:56.23 | Pimpi | so why do you ask... |
| 14:56.29 | abrotman | Pimpi: and i know what you meant .. but damn .. you're confused :) |
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| 14:56.44 | Pimpi | abrotman: well maybe |
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| 14:56.53 | Pimpi | no need to argue about it |
| 14:57.08 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 14:57.09 | jvw | Pimpi: techincall, com. etc are top-level domains, and everything below is indeed a sub-domain. '.' is just the root zone, it is not a domain |
| 14:57.33 | Pimpi | jvw: com. is a subdomain of . ;) |
| 14:57.33 | jvw | though usually, people call foo.com a domain, and everything below that a subdomain |
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| 14:57.46 | jvw | Pimpi: you can only be a subdomain of a domain, can you? |
| 14:57.46 | cyzie | lol |
| 14:57.47 | }{ermes | how i can install scsi driver that support only 2.6.14 kernel with an debian installation? |
| 14:58.00 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 14:58.00 | dpkg | methinks sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 14:58.06 | acidJazz | in which file do i have to save the iptables-restore settings so that they are started with the system ? |
| 14:58.06 | jvw | Pimpi: otherwise 'sub' makes no sense |
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| 14:58.10 | valdyn | }{ermes: ^^^ |
| 14:58.32 | }{ermes | valdyn * |
| 14:58.32 | Pimpi | jvw: yeah, . is root, so com. is a subdomain of . |
| 14:58.37 | }{ermes | thank you very much :) |
| 14:58.43 | jvw | Pimpi: whatever |
| 14:58.50 | mere | i was having some dependencies problems with testing, so i decided to upgrade to sid yesterday. right after doing so and rebooting, my /home partition could not be checked by e2fsck. what is wrong? |
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| 14:59.17 | valdyn | mere: you remove e2fsck? |
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| 14:59.24 | mere | no |
| 14:59.27 | valdyn | mere: yes |
| 14:59.47 | acidJazz | in which file do i have to save the iptables-restore settings so that they are started with the system ? |
| 14:59.47 | Andy0377 | i have got a fresh install of debian, i am wanting to user a hosting control panel.... i have tried VHCS and want to try some others...... any suggestions? |
| 14:59.50 | mere | so i should remove it? |
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| 14:59.59 | giupy | hi all |
| 15:00.03 | valdyn | mere: no, you shouldnt, but you did |
| 15:00.16 | Wodzu | hi al |
| 15:00.24 | Wodzu | hi all |
| 15:00.44 | mere | i didn't.. it tried to check the partition |
| 15:00.52 | giupy | ot: anyone with hardware experience with sony vaio pcg c1ve? i would like to know if i can upgrade the c1ve to c1mhp with motherboard cpu and ram ..... |
| 15:00.57 | valdyn | mere: and why cant e2fsck check it? |
| 15:01.05 | Wodzu | elo ziomale whera are from |
| 15:01.15 | valdyn | mere: ( what is the error message ) |
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| 15:01.32 | mere | but it said there was a problem with some block. so i should try another |
| 15:01.43 | findme | how can I mount a usb device. mount /mnt/usbhd /dev/sda ? |
| 15:01.47 | Wodzu | Yo! |
| 15:01.51 | mere | but it mounted ok with knoppix |
| 15:02.01 | dvs | findme: that's backwards |
| 15:02.05 | Wodzu | Yo all |
| 15:02.07 | valdyn | mere: mount isnt fscking |
| 15:02.09 | findme | dvs, ok thanks. |
| 15:02.21 | dvs | findme: no problems |
| 15:02.35 | mere | i couldn't even mount /home under debian |
| 15:02.50 | valdyn | mere: why not? paste the error |
| 15:02.51 | Andy0377 | i have got a fresh install of debian, i am wanting to user a hosting control panel.... i have tried VHCS and want to try some others...... any suggestions? |
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| 15:03.10 | Wodzu | whera chat from? |
| 15:03.14 | acidJazz | in which file do i have to save the iptables-restore settings so that they are started with the system ? |
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| 15:03.35 | adapter | hello, i have a problem with the ftp |
| 15:03.36 | Wodzu | new york? |
| 15:03.37 | mere | valdyn, i would love to, but after the upgrade it's also not able to resolve any host too |
| 15:03.54 | pngwn | Wodzu, try #cyberchat |
| 15:04.03 | mere | and through knoppix i can't get to here |
| 15:04.06 | Eulex | !pl |
| 15:04.06 | dpkg | pl is, like, sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 15:04.09 | valdyn | mere: then you write the error down or get someone to your place to fix it, i cant read your mind or your computers memory from here |
| 15:04.14 | Wodzu | www.onet.pl polish portal www |
| 15:04.20 | findme | what file system type do i have to give for usb devices? |
| 15:04.20 | adapter | i've pasted the problem in #flood, i connect to the ftp server, the login it's succesful, but when i try to ls/dir...it's timeout |
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| 15:04.36 | Wodzu | findme how your day going on ? |
| 15:04.38 | Eulex | findme, what file system is one the usb device? |
| 15:04.44 | Wodzu | pngwn how your day going on ? |
| 15:04.51 | findme | Eulex, its probably m$'s |
| 15:04.58 | pngwn | Wodzu, do you have a debian question? |
| 15:05.01 | findme | Wodzu, started out good |
| 15:05.16 | Eulex | findme, probably. could be vfat or ntfs depending on size of the usb device. |
| 15:05.21 | war92 | I know about java-pkg (and I make it from sun's sit)- but does anyone keep a repository for testing (like merilliat) but for the latest verision(s) of java? |
| 15:05.23 | mere | what's with all the dependencies mismatches too? |
| 15:05.26 | Wodzu | pngwn no |
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| 15:05.36 | Wodzu | findme thx |
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| 15:05.42 | pngwn | Wodzu, buh-bye |
| 15:05.56 | findme | Eulex, no good i will try something else. thanks though. |
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| 15:06.29 | Eulex | findme, with what command are you trying to mount it? |
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| 15:06.36 | Net_Holer | d |
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| 15:06.42 | Wodzu | pngwn do you have a debian question? |
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| 15:07.16 | findme | Eulex, /etc/fstab /dev/sda /mnt/usbhd ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0; and I am giving $mount /dev/sda |
| 15:07.18 | pngwn | Wodzu, if I did, I would be on topic |
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| 15:07.26 | adapter | i've pasted the problem in #flood, i connect to the ftp server, the login it's succesful, but when i try to ls/dir...it's timeout |
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| 15:07.32 | adapter | or check http://pastebin.com/459497 |
| 15:07.36 | redge- | i do, i tried installing kde 3.5 and it didn't went well, how do i get back to the default sarge kde version? |
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| 15:08.04 | Ronin | well i see i didnt get irssi set up correctly yet for freenode, heh |
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| 15:08.15 | Eulex | findme, you won't have much luck trying to mount the full disk instead of a partition on it... |
| 15:08.26 | findme | Eulex, its 512MB player |
| 15:08.31 | goccia | findme: sda1 or sda4 |
| 15:08.38 | Wodzu | i'm from Poland, you pngwn where are from? |
| 15:08.40 | findme | goccia, ok let me try |
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| 15:09.03 | pngwn | Wodzu, if you haven't noticed, this is a help channel for debian, take the chat elsewhere |
| 15:09.04 | findme | Wodzu, everyone is between earth and sky, except for a few who are on international space station. |
| 15:09.11 | bluefox83 | what setting do you use in xorg.conf when you are using an LCD monitor instead of a CRT monitor? |
| 15:09.22 | Eulex | findme, fdisk -l |
| 15:09.47 | Wodzu | ta ja was wogulê nierozumiê :) |
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| 15:09.52 | goccia | findme: international space station ? i'm on mars doooming :) |
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| 15:10.03 | findme | goccia, :-) |
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| 15:10.49 | findme | Eulex, fat 16 my my |
| 15:10.56 | Wodzu | pngwn lol |
| 15:11.11 | redge- | hey, how do i reinstall kde to the default version it is in sarge? |
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| 15:11.51 | Eulex | findme, that's not the important bit. what's the device name of the partition? |
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| 15:12.36 | eigenlambda | alright how do you tell what process is using the disk in top? |
| 15:12.50 | eigenlambda | i've been leafing through tfm and havn't found it |
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| 15:12.54 | findme | Eulex, /dev/sda1 * |
| 15:13.04 | stian | hi!, anyone know of a good tool for joining/merging avi-files? |
| 15:13.13 | Wodzu | MUWI TU KTO¦ PO POLSKU? |
| 15:13.34 | Eulex | findme, then mount /dev/sda1 instead of /dev/sda |
| 15:13.44 | Eulex | Wodzu, english please |
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| 15:14.00 | Wodzu | M U W I T U K T O ¦ P O P O L S K U ? |
| 15:14.12 | Ronin | cool polish trolls today |
| 15:14.16 | Wodzu | Eulex do you speak polish |
| 15:14.27 | Eulex | Wodzu, no, why would I? |
| 15:14.29 | abrotman | !pl |
| 15:14.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 15:14.35 | _rene_ | even if he would, that's irrelevant |
| 15:14.40 | _rene_ | this channels language is english |
| 15:15.34 | findme | Eulex, you rule! Thanks much! Have a good one. |
| 15:16.10 | Eulex | findme, /dev/sda is the full disk. /dev/sda1 is the partition. |
| 15:16.16 | findme | Eulex, ah |
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| 15:16.40 | eigenlambda | how can i tell what process is using the disk? |
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| 15:18.09 | abrotman | fuser/lsof |
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| 15:22.03 | findme | Eulex, thanks again works like a charm. |
| 15:22.11 | Eulex | findme, yw :) |
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| 15:22.56 | ChrisW_ | anyone use nessus here? I'm having problems running nessus-update-plugins :-S |
| 15:23.09 | SerajewelKS | !didn't work |
| 15:23.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 15:23.33 | ChrisW_ | was that to me? |
| 15:23.36 | SerajewelKS | yes |
| 15:23.41 | ramy | Sorry for the offtopic question: is there a way to make windows xp unmount a certain partition, and remount it. I need this because if I hibernate windows , and boot linux ( I have dual boot ) then if linux write to the filesystem , resuming windows will currupt the fat32 filesystem |
| 15:23.54 | ChrisW_ | Alert!: Unexpected network read error; connection aborted. |
| 15:23.54 | ChrisW_ | Can't Access `http://plugins.nessus.org/get.php?f=all-2.0.tar.gz.md5&u=58ea7b396f2bb7f40a7bb6c6cc7edb50&p=27f29f8e64ae77b44c6231d95dbb1e57' |
| 15:23.58 | eigenlambda | isnt there some command to watch the filesystem and report all accesses? |
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| 15:24.01 | Knight_Lord | ramy a real pain in the ass |
| 15:24.10 | SerajewelKS | ramy: don't do that |
| 15:24.16 | ChrisW_ | eigen: tripwire maybe? |
| 15:24.22 | Knight_Lord | SerajewelKS but it can happen very easily by mistake |
| 15:24.35 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord: which is why you don't hibernate when dual-booting |
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| 15:24.46 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, me, personally, thinks it wastes its time on irc all day long, and thus it never completes nor does anything useful ;) |
| 15:24.57 | Knight_Lord | SerajewelKS that's not a fix |
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| 15:25.17 | eigenlambda | there was something called like fs_usage or something on mac os x... |
| 15:25.19 | SerajewelKS | Knight_Lord: yes it is. windows xp's hibernate assumes that you are not dual-booting. so don't hibernate. |
| 15:25.23 | ramy | I use swsusp for linux and hibernate for windows xp, that's very convinint to me .. I just want to find a way to have a shared fat32 partition between the two OSes |
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| 15:25.54 | cusco | hello |
| 15:26.00 | cusco | Im using debian testin :) |
| 15:26.12 | cusco | I installed ndiswrapper-utils but I cand modprob it |
| 15:26.21 | ramy | I can add to my linux hybernate script a line to unmount the shared partition, and remount it on resume , but I can't do the same thing in windows :( |
| 15:26.29 | ChrisW_ | are there any nessus users here? |
| 15:26.39 | cusco | ramy: in windows? |
| 15:26.42 | PerfDave | cusco: That's because ndiswrapper-utils doesn't contain a kernel module. |
| 15:26.51 | ramy | cusco: yes |
| 15:26.58 | smhar | right now I have a running sid install that has no X running and still in 2.4 kernel. someone please help me solve these 2 issues |
| 15:27.00 | SerajewelKS | ramy: then, as i said, do not hibernate windows |
| 15:27.07 | PerfDave | smhar: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 15:27.16 | cusco | PerfDave: well I installed the kernel module that is on the repo... but its not the same kernel that comes with debian... |
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| 15:27.25 | PerfDave | cusco: What repo? |
| 15:27.33 | PerfDave | smhar: /msg dpkg troubleshooting x |
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| 15:28.18 | ramy | SerajewelKS: no other way ? Is windows too stupid not to allow the user to unmount partitions on demand ? |
| 15:28.34 | SerajewelKS | ramy: you can unmount it in the disk manager, but no scriptable way afaik |
| 15:28.35 | Eulex | cusco, m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
| 15:28.35 | smhar | thanks PerfDave .. I will check both |
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| 15:29.07 | PerfDave | smhar: /msg dpkg 2.4->2.6 |
| 15:29.15 | ramy | SerajewelKS: thanks |
| 15:29.15 | darkcmd | how can I set a qt theme outside of kde |
| 15:29.32 | cusco | PerfDave: testing / main in ftp.uk.debian.org |
| 15:29.36 | cusco | that is the ndiswrapper-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 15:29.45 | cusco | and Im using 2.6.12 |
| 15:30.05 | Eulex | cusco, m-a a-i ndiswrapper |
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| 15:30.52 | cusco | Eulex: I did not understand that.. |
| 15:30.52 | cusco | m-a a-i ??? |
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| 15:31.06 | PerfDave | cusco: Eulex speaks sense, you'll have to compile ndiswrapper against the headers for the kernel you're using. module-assistant will make that easy for you if you're using a Debian-provided kernel-image or linux-image package |
| 15:31.14 | Eulex | cusco, short for module-assistant auto-install ndiswrapper |
| 15:31.25 | cusco | I am |
| 15:31.35 | cusco | ok let me look into that |
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| 15:31.37 | cusco | thanks |
| 15:31.45 | PerfDave | cusco: /msg dpkg ndiswrapper |
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| 15:33.09 | bluefox83 | egh, i think i fscked my resolution.. |
| 15:33.22 | bluefox83 | how do i check my actual resolution? |
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| 15:34.03 | SlayerXP | bluefox83: xdpyinfo |
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| 15:34.15 | Andy0377 | how do i change root pw in debian? |
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| 15:34.37 | Eulex | Andy0377, passwd |
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| 15:35.02 | bluefox83 | SlayerXP, is there a more..refined way? it gives a load of info i don't really understand O.o |
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| 15:36.17 | timo | bluefox83, grep for dimension |
| 15:36.27 | cusco | thanks a lot PerfDave, Eulex |
| 15:36.27 | cusco | it worked :)) |
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| 15:36.36 | bluefox83 | ty |
| 15:36.42 | Eulex | cusco, yw :) |
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| 15:36.48 | bluefox83 | for some reason everything in xchat looks a lot different.. |
| 15:36.55 | bluefox83 | all the texts are in bold |
| 15:37.21 | Eulex | bluefox83, grep for resolution on xdpyinfo |
| 15:37.36 | Eulex | bluefox83, is the dpi set to the one you want? |
| 15:37.38 | bluefox83 | ah hah..something changed my font size..i fixed it |
| 15:37.50 | Eulex | ah |
| 15:38.03 | bluefox83 | 96x96? |
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| 15:38.24 | SerajewelKS | hrm, SDL is not detecting my joystick |
| 15:38.32 | bluefox83 | i have a 19" lcd monitor, resolution is 1280x1024 |
| 15:38.51 | bluefox83 | am trying to get xorg's transparency to work |
| 15:38.52 | ice_1963 | yup |
| 15:39.01 | SerajewelKS | odd, why are /dev/input/js* set as 660 root:root? |
| 15:39.07 | bluefox83 | trying to see if it'll work in icewm |
| 15:39.12 | Eulex | bluefox83, what gfx card and driver? |
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| 15:39.54 | bluefox83 | Eulex, nvidia geforce 5500 fx OC |
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| 15:39.54 | bluefox83 | i used the debian installer |
| 15:39.56 | bluefox83 | er, debian nvidia installer i mean |
| 15:40.11 | Eulex | bluefox83, so you've got the binary nvidia driver? |
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| 15:40.26 | bluefox83 | i installed the drivers..that's working |
| 15:40.35 | Eulex | bluefox83, have you enabled composite? |
| 15:40.38 | bluefox83 | xorg.conf is using the nvidia driver |
| 15:40.52 | bluefox83 | Eulex, i tried..i think i did something wrong, it's not working very well |
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| 15:41.07 | bluefox83 | and i can't seem to find the tools all the websites keep talking about |
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| 15:41.32 | Eulex | Section "Extensions" |
| 15:41.32 | Eulex | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:41.32 | Eulex | EndSection |
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| 15:41.44 | Eulex | bluefox83, is that in your xorg.conf? |
| 15:42.06 | bluefox83 | eh, i had "true" instead of enable.. |
| 15:42.32 | Eulex | I think "true" will work too |
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| 15:43.07 | Eulex | bluefox83, then, you need a compositing manager. some window managers include their own. otherwise there's xcompmgr |
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| 15:44.02 | bluefox83 | i'm using icewm, i dunno if it has a composite manager or not :/ |
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| 15:44.37 | Eulex | bluefox83, those I know of that has compositing managers are xfce 4.2 and recent kde's |
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| 15:44.59 | bluefox83 | ok, where do i get xcompmgr? |
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| 15:46.23 | Eulex | bluefox83, http://freedesktop.org/xapps/release/ |
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| 15:47.14 | bluefox83 | you mean it's not in apt? :( |
| 15:47.17 | Eulex | bluefox83, not available in debian, so you gotta compile it |
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| 15:48.36 | Eulex | bluefox83, and it's not worth finding unofficial apt repos with it. I tried once. what a mess it made. |
| 15:49.29 | ice_1963 | what is good mpeg player for gnome? |
| 15:50.04 | Eulex | ice_1963, totem? |
| 15:50.19 | ice_1963 | ok |
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| 15:52.13 | bluefox83 | crap, i can't even configure it..i seem to be missing something |
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| 15:52.30 | bluefox83 | xcomposite, xrender, xfixes, xdamage |
| 15:52.34 | bluefox83 | whatever those are |
| 15:52.53 | Eulex | bluefox83, install the -dev packages for those things |
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| 15:53.59 | ice_1963 | i witsh totem had a plugin for mozilla |
| 15:54.13 | bluefox83 | it does |
| 15:54.24 | ice_1963 | what |
| 15:54.38 | bluefox83 | i dunno where to find them..but i know it does |
| 15:54.53 | ice_1963 | hmm |
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| 15:56.41 | bluefox83 | grrr..i installed them and it's still not working :( |
| 15:58.37 | Rarj | anyone help me with partitioning please ? |
| 15:58.43 | Eulex | bluefox83, did you install the -dev packages for those libraries? |
| 15:58.50 | bluefox83 | Eulex, yep |
| 15:59.04 | Eulex | bluefox83, check the config.log |
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| 16:00.48 | vu2027 | hlep |
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| 16:01.24 | paulswm | ice_1963: I use a gxine plugin for firefox (/usr/lib/gxine/gxineplugin.so), so I expect there's one for totem/mozilla |
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| 16:01.37 | vu2027 | sempre sempre |
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| 16:02.33 | paulswm | Pimpi: I note that he ducked when you said that :P |
| 16:02.45 | Xemanth | dudes, now its really messed up... it complains that can't upgrade to x11 shitsu because xorg is installed, can't remove xorg because it complains about x11 ^^^ |
| 16:02.46 | Pimpi | ; |
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| 16:03.12 | dirkuulies | hi |
| 16:03.12 | Rarj | how can I use LVM (command line to define 2 pri and 1 logical part ? |
| 16:03.26 | dirkuulies | u press ALT Q Q |
| 16:03.33 | Xemanth | i go search sledgehammer |
| 16:03.43 | paulswm | Rarj: you don't use lvm to partition a disk, use cfdisk |
| 16:03.55 | Rarj | ok |
| 16:03.55 | dirkuulies | ctrl alt del? |
| 16:04.19 | dirkuulies | no? |
| 16:04.20 | Rarj | i did use cfdisk first and defined 2 pri - 1 ntfs and 1 linux parts |
| 16:04.21 | ice_1963 | paulswm - i use firefox to i am going to install that |
| 16:04.26 | Rarj | and the rest as a logical part |
| 16:04.35 | dirkuulies | what is firefox? |
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| 16:04.45 | dirkuulies | is that the guy from super smash bros. |
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| 16:04.49 | Rarj | now i want a swap part and the rest split to 2 |
| 16:04.54 | dirkuulies | the fox that fights? |
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| 16:05.58 | paulswm | Rarj: Did you already use pvcreate and then vgcreate to create the physical volume and a volume group? |
| 16:06.06 | Rarj | no |
| 16:06.17 | paulswm | Rarj: Read the LVM howto |
| 16:06.23 | Rarj | ok |
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| 16:06.53 | paulswm | Rarj: I'm not trying to put you off, but the howto will explain everything much better than us doing it line by line here |
| 16:07.15 | Rarj | hey no problems ! thanks :) |
| 16:07.27 | Rarj | dont take it that way paulswm |
| 16:08.11 | paulswm | Rarj: If you don't have the howtos installed locally, it's here: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/index.html |
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| 16:08.33 | paulswm | Rarj: I wasn't offended, I just didn't want you to think that I was trying to be unhelpful :) |
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| 16:09.18 | bluefox83 | how do you update pkgconfig? the files it is looking for are right in it's directory but it's not seeing them.. |
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| 16:09.59 | Xemanth | whats current stable kde in Sarge? |
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| 16:10.02 | quitte | bluefox83: put them in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 16:10.17 | bluefox83 | quitte, what O.o |
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| 16:10.40 | Usiu | Is experimental's metacity using composite stuff? |
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| 16:11.42 | Eulex | Xemanth, 3.3.2 |
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| 16:13.36 | Xemanth | Eulex: hmm-m ok :) |
| 16:13.49 | Xemanth | i think i'm going to reinstall whole debian :D |
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| 16:14.01 | Eulex | Xemanth, messed it up? |
| 16:14.12 | Xemanth | pretty badly ^^ |
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| 16:14.27 | Xemanth | upgrade to Etch didn't go smoothly :D |
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| 16:15.05 | Xemanth | apt-get upgrade wants to install x11-common but i have xorg installed and can't remove anything, it just complains that they interfere or something |
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| 16:15.20 | eegore___ | I was reading an old howto for VPN using ssh and pppd. Has the method improved any from that point to a formal settup? |
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| 16:16.41 | Rarj | hello |
| 16:16.57 | bcl | eegore___, VPN using ssh and pppd has always been a bit of a hack. Give OpenVPN a look. |
| 16:17.09 | smhar | I am trying to install a 2.6 kernel in a system running a 2.4 one. I got this error message: you are trying to install an initrd kernel image (version 2.6.14-2-686) while running a kernel of version 2.4.27-2-386, but you have no suitable ramdisk generation tool installed |
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| 16:17.27 | smhar | what package should I install first? |
| 16:17.35 | eegore___ | bcl: I thought so, it did look like a lot of finagling |
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| 16:18.30 | ForrestF | oh boy |
| 16:18.37 | ForrestF | guess what i have to do |
| 16:18.40 | bcl | smhar, IMHO you're going to run into more problems than that. There are some major differences between 2.4 and 2.6 that require a whole mess of changes to the system. |
| 16:18.44 | ForrestF | setup a apache server on debain |
| 16:18.46 | eegore___ | Looks like I can use it for my windows clients as well |
| 16:18.56 | bluefox83 | where can i find the rpm package of transset? compiling it is getting too complicated...i've got all it's requirements but it says i don't..i'm getting pissed off rather quickly |
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| 16:19.04 | eegore___ | THat should keep boneheaded bos happy |
| 16:19.23 | bcl | eegore___, That's what it says. I haven't tried that myself (I use it for my laptop on my home wireless connection) |
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| 16:19.55 | bcl | bluefox83, the deb might do you more good on a Debian system <G> |
| 16:20.06 | bluefox83 | bcl, there isn't one =( |
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| 16:20.34 | bluefox83 | i can use alien to convert it to a .deb atleast |
| 16:20.49 | bcl | bluefox83, that might work. What is transset? |
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| 16:21.04 | bluefox83 | it's used for handling transparent windows |
| 16:21.21 | Andy0377 | i have installed some software, done apt-get remove vhcs* to remove it and want to install it again (now i have updated apt) and it says..... |
| 16:21.27 | Andy0377 | E: Couldn't find package vhcs2.4.6.2.tar.bz2 |
| 16:21.30 | bcl | ah, no wonder I've never heard of it. |
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| 16:21.39 | smhar | bcl, what should I do.. when I install debian using a 2.6 kernel network doesn't work. so I installed with a 2.4 kernel and network and internet (and apt) are working now hoping I can upgrade to 2.6 kernel later |
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| 16:22.16 | bcl | Just use 2.4 if you can't get 2.6 to work. What happens on a 2.6 install? |
| 16:23.39 | smhar | bcl debian is installed with 2.4 kernel and apt-get install linux-image-2.6 gives all error messages |
| 16:24.09 | Andy0377 | E: Couldn't find package vhcs2.4.6.2.tar.bz2 |
| 16:24.21 | Andy0377 | should i download that package? where should i put it? |
| 16:24.21 | smhar | bcl: and as I told you, If I installed debian with a 2.6 kernel network will not work |
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| 16:24.53 | Rarj | how do you format a partition ? |
| 16:24.59 | bluefox83 | how do i view the contents of PKG_Config_PATH? |
| 16:25.01 | ForrestF | format c |
| 16:25.04 | ForrestF | :P |
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| 16:25.14 | Rarj | :) |
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| 16:25.26 | Andy0377 | any clues? |
| 16:25.36 | smhar | Rarj: mkfs tab tab |
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| 16:25.57 | Rarj | im sorry "tab tab" ?? |
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| 16:26.06 | bluefox83 | how do i view the contents of a varialble? |
| 16:26.18 | bluefox83 | a system variable |
| 16:26.24 | smhar | Rarj: press tab key twice and see which fs to use |
| 16:26.30 | mage | echo $YOUR_VARIABLE |
| 16:26.58 | Rarj | ok.... umm... will that work in command line mode ? |
| 16:27.00 | darkcmd | http://alioth.debian.org/users/zacharym-guest |
| 16:27.07 | Rarj | im on a live CD |
| 16:27.07 | darkcmd | why is my username zacharym-guest |
| 16:27.14 | djp | is this command correct? ln -s ~/downloads/"Movie File"/foo.avi ~/video/link_foo.avi. Basically will that make a link to a file in my downloads folder, in my video folder? |
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| 16:27.58 | Andy0377 | when i try to install VHCS i get... E: Couldn't find package vhcs2.4.6.2.tar.bz2 (how can i provide this package - where does it belong)? |
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| 16:28.23 | smhar | djp: enclose the whole path in double quots |
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| 16:29.10 | bizkit | should i prefer the cyrus imap or the courier imap? :) |
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| 16:29.59 | doubleukay | Andy0377, what did you type? |
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| 16:30.16 | djp | smhar, like this? ln -s ""~/downloads/Movie File/foo.avi""... |
| 16:30.17 | Andy0377 | apt-get install vhcs* |
| 16:30.33 | Syruss | mediapc:/usr/src# apt-get install kernel-source |
| 16:30.34 | Syruss | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 16:30.34 | Syruss | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 16:30.34 | Syruss | E: The package lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
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| 16:31.03 | Syruss | sorry, any idea how I can make apt-get work again? I keep getting that error and -f and --fix-missing don't help :/ |
| 16:31.34 | Eclipser | I built kernel with kp mantra and the package doesn't have initrd... (lilo whines that /initrd.img not found) |
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| 16:31.53 | bluefox83 | how do i define add a directory to a system variable? i need to add a directory to PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 16:31.57 | Eulex | Syruss, for what package? |
| 16:32.05 | bcl | djp, you can also escape the spaces with a backslash. |
| 16:32.05 | bluefox83 | +or |
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| 16:32.10 | doublehp | every day, I receive an email from localhost: "unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname()" why ? whats wrong ? |
| 16:32.14 | doublehp | is it possible to 'eject USB/scsi' ? I do NOT want to eject a REMOVABLE MEDIA, but ask udev to stop the device, and redetect is /AS IF/ the USB cable had been unplugged, without actually doing that physically, nor unload the USB module. Some thing around udev or scsi ... |
| 16:32.16 | Syruss | Eulex: that happens for any package |
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| 16:32.27 | Eulex | bluefox83, export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=whatever:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 16:32.41 | bluefox83 | O.o |
| 16:32.51 | ohad | how do i mount my cdrom? i can cause my /media/cdrom to eject. but i can't read it for some reason.. :/ |
| 16:32.54 | bcl | djp, tab completion will also do this for you. |
| 16:32.57 | Syruss | mediapc:/usr/src# apt-get install seewhatImean |
| 16:33.02 | Syruss | E: The package lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 16:33.04 | Syruss | :/ |
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| 16:33.25 | debiankid | hi room |
| 16:33.37 | cahoot | Eclipser: don't put an initrd line in the lilo stanza for you new kernel |
| 16:33.39 | bluefox83 | export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig/.$PKG_CONFIG_PATH ? |
| 16:33.55 | Eulex | Syruss, that's the package I was asking for, lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:33.58 | bluefox83 | like that? |
| 16:34.01 | Eclipser | cahoot, it's not needed then+ |
| 16:34.01 | debiankid | hello everyone im full new using debian and i am installing debian from the beguinning |
| 16:34.01 | Eclipser | ? |
| 16:34.14 | Eulex | bluefox83, export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig:$PKG_CONFIG_PATH |
| 16:34.23 | cahoot | Eclipser: not of you didn't make one |
| 16:34.27 | cahoot | if |
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| 16:34.31 | djp | bcl, i see. is there a place to ask questions regards bash commands on irc? |
| 16:34.35 | Syruss | Eulex: that package doesn't exist |
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| 16:34.41 | Eulex | Syruss, try apt-get --reinstall install lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:34.44 | Andy0377 | i put ///// apt-get install vhcs* |
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| 16:34.48 | debiankid | any subjestion to make a good configuration ? cose i am installing my comuter as a server , and a would like to set up dns web server sql and pdc-with samba :) |
| 16:34.52 | bcl | maybe in the main #linux channel. Haven't looked myself. |
| 16:34.54 | Eulex | Syruss, how were you able to install it once then? |
| 16:35.20 | Syruss | I built it from source |
| 16:35.33 | Syruss | (a .deb) |
| 16:35.33 | bluefox83 | Eulex, echo $PKG_CONFIG_PATH comes up empty =( |
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| 16:36.03 | Eulex | bluefox83, oh, then you just need to export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/X11R6/lib/pkgconfig |
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| 16:36.13 | Eulex | bluefox83, I was assuming it already had a value |
| 16:36.23 | djp | thanks bcl |
| 16:36.34 | bluefox83 | ack! |
| 16:36.34 | bcl | djp, no prob. |
| 16:36.38 | bluefox83 | it's still coming up blank! |
| 16:36.38 | debiankid | i am in the choose software to install section , do i install the package manualy or i select in the main box ? |
| 16:37.21 | Eulex | debiankid, fully your decision... |
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| 16:37.28 | Eulex | Syruss, you could try apt-get remove lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 and then re-compile the package |
| 16:37.28 | bcl | debiankid, if you're new to debian I'd suggest installing the 'desktop' packages and play with more detail later. |
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| 16:37.35 | debiankid | yes i did |
| 16:37.50 | debiankid | im installing debian 3.1 sarge |
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| 16:37.57 | Syruss | Eulex: apt-get throws that error even when I try to remove a package |
| 16:38.06 | Eclipser | meh |
| 16:38.06 | Syruss | it's like it's broken somehow |
| 16:38.07 | Syruss | :/ |
| 16:38.09 | Eclipser | it panicked |
| 16:38.13 | Andy0377 | i put ///// apt-get install vhcs* |
| 16:38.16 | Andy0377 | help!! |
| 16:38.23 | debiankid | now is asking me to select the desired X server driver |
| 16:38.27 | bluefox83 | i think my export command is broken =( |
| 16:38.28 | Eulex | Syruss, remove *the* package that is causing it. |
| 16:38.34 | Syruss | how? :/ |
| 16:38.38 | Eulex | bluefox83, export whatever=whatever just affects the current console. |
| 16:38.38 | bcl | Andy0377, have you tried doing each package indivually without the *? |
| 16:38.44 | Syruss | mediapc:/usr/src# apt-get remove lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:38.45 | debiankid | bcl now is asking me to select the desired X server driver |
| 16:38.46 | Eulex | Syruss, apt-get remove lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:38.48 | Syruss | E: The package lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 16:38.55 | Syruss | idiot apt :/ |
| 16:38.56 | Andy0377 | i dont know which each is called |
| 16:39.00 | Andy0377 | worked before ok |
| 16:39.06 | Andy0377 | when i try to install VHCS i get... E: Couldn't find package vhcs2.4.6.2.tar.bz2 (how can i provide this package - where does it belong)? |
| 16:39.08 | bcl | debiankid, can't help you there :) whatever card you have... |
| 16:39.19 | debiankid | hehehe |
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| 16:39.24 | debiankid | intel i think |
| 16:39.26 | Eulex | debiankid, what gfx card do you have? |
| 16:39.29 | bcl | Andy0377, apt-cache search vhcs may help |
| 16:39.41 | Eulex | Syruss, still the same error if you try to remove lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386? |
| 16:39.54 | debiankid | bcl anyway i dolt like to use the X on unix |
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| 16:40.06 | Syruss | Eulex: yes. |
| 16:40.11 | debiankid | i like more the stone mode |
| 16:40.21 | bcl | debiankid, then I guess it doesn't matter :) |
| 16:40.33 | Andy0377 | its still vhcs 2.4.4 |
| 16:40.36 | Andy0377 | i need 2.4.6 |
| 16:40.55 | bluefox83 | yay! it worked! |
| 16:40.59 | debiankid | now is installing the packcages :) |
| 16:41.09 | Syruss | hmm :/ |
| 16:41.23 | Syruss | is there any way of fixing apt, rebuilding it's database or something? |
| 16:41.27 | bluefox83 | now..how do i make sure my X wont crap and burn when i try to restart? |
| 16:41.34 | bluefox83 | *crash |
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| 16:42.06 | bluefox83 | i'ma try..see if it works.. |
| 16:42.29 | debiankid | modules and everything s elses from cd ...... |
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| 16:43.12 | bcl | Andy0377, what is vhcs? |
| 16:43.14 | Eulex | Syruss, try dpkg -r --force-remove-reinstreq lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 16:43.28 | Andy0377 | hosting control panel |
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| 16:43.35 | Andy0377 | im open to better suggestions!!! |
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| 16:43.59 | bcl | Andy0377, sorry, I never use easy stuff like that :) I always edit the config files. |
| 16:44.00 | odla | i am getting this error when i am trying to run a gdesklet applet http://pastebin.com/459573 |
| 16:44.00 | debiankid | Andy0377 hosting control panel? |
| 16:44.04 | odla | any ideas |
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| 16:44.07 | SlayerXP | Andy0377: hire people who can manage a server without needing a GUI to click on? |
| 16:44.10 | debiankid | bcl heheheh me too |
| 16:44.11 | bluefox | ok..somethin is wrong |
| 16:44.32 | debiankid | bcl well at least in redhat i used to do like |
| 16:44.42 | debiankid | bcl i think debian is the same no? |
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| 16:44.58 | bluefox83 | my X keeps crashing after the nvidia screen pops up |
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| 16:45.08 | bcl | debiankid, Debian doesn't have as many system config utils as redhat |
| 16:45.20 | bcl | debiankid, GUI ones that is. |
| 16:45.21 | Andy0377 | SlayerXP: it is to give out free hosting to friends / me etc for them to control their hosting space |
| 16:45.22 | crash3m_ | redhat likes to hold your hand |
| 16:45.24 | Andy0377 | like Cpanel |
| 16:45.42 | Syruss | dpkg --force-remove-reinstreq -r lirc-modules-2.6.8-2-386 |
| 16:45.44 | Syruss | :) |
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| 16:45.54 | Syruss | thanks Eulex figured it out though :p |
| 16:46.02 | bcl | crash3m_, GUI tools can be very useful -- if written properly. But most of the time they get in the way of what you really want to do. |
| 16:46.11 | crash3m_ | bcl: yup |
| 16:46.16 | Eulex | debiankid, debian focuses on creating config files that are powerful and easy to use, and then eventually create gui tools for it. |
| 16:46.17 | debiankid | bcl what is GUI ? |
| 16:46.23 | crash3m_ | bcl: I've used webmin, cpanel, ensim, plesk...I know |
| 16:46.24 | Eulex | !gui |
| 16:46.24 | dpkg | methinks gui is (Graphical User Interface) Any system that uses graphics to represent the functions of a program. All Windows operating systems are GUI. or point-and-drool, double-click, drag-and-drop, ... or at http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/index.html. Of course Real Programmers use the command line interface. See cli |
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| 16:46.32 | Eulex | Syruss, :) |
| 16:46.41 | bcl | debiankid, Graphical User Interface (gooey) |
| 16:46.57 | debiankid | bcl hehehe |
| 16:47.02 | debiankid | thanks |
| 16:47.09 | Eulex | http://pla-netx.com/linebackn/guis/index.html is a broken link |
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| 16:47.16 | benoit_ | hi |
| 16:47.16 | bcl | GUI's have their place. Syaptic is an excellent example. |
| 16:47.37 | benoit_ | I try to read quicktime with firefox is it possible ? |
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| 16:47.41 | bluefox83 | Eulex: i installed all the utils you told me to install, and i put the config file the way you told me to...but when i startx it crashes! |
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| 16:48.18 | odla | am I missing a python package? |
| 16:48.23 | Eulex | bcl, synaptic could be better. it doesn't have the same power (yet) as manually using apt-get and aptitude. |
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| 16:48.37 | dimitri | does anyone know a irc channel to talk about electronic composants ? |
| 16:48.44 | bcl | Unix takes the attitude that lots of small programs connected together are better than one monolithic program. It also allows you to wrap a GUI around the core functionality but still allowing the power of the command line. |
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| 16:49.04 | bcl | dimitri, what's an electronic composant? |
| 16:49.07 | Kluster_v2 | dimitri, #electronics |
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| 16:49.24 | Eulex | bluefox83, most probably an issue with your gfx driver. check your X log. also try commenting out Option "Composite" "enable" and starting X again |
| 16:49.26 | Kluster_v2 | dimitri, a few electrical engineers, and hobyist hang out there |
| 16:49.26 | bcl | Eulex, true. But its alot nicer than apt-cache search for finding apps :) |
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| 16:49.53 | bluefox83 | Eulex: why would there be a problem with the driver? |
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| 16:50.18 | Eulex | bcl, not necesarilly. |
| 16:50.29 | dimitri | Kluster_v2: thanks |
| 16:50.31 | debiankid | bcl with 4 cd of debian should install ok |
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| 16:50.52 | Andy0377 | so no advice on control panels for web hosting? |
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| 16:51.04 | bcl | Eulex, depends on the person. search + grep is ok, but with synaptic you discover apps that you didn't know even existed. |
| 16:51.10 | Eulex | bluefox83, because it's binary and proprietary. and I've heard that composite can cause hard lock-ups when using the nvidia driver. |
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| 16:51.26 | bcl | debiankid, I always do the net install. |
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| 16:51.33 | jimr | Good Morning all, newbie quesiton.... Does Debian generate a log file of kernel boot messages? If so what/where? |
| 16:51.36 | bluefox83 | Eulex: any suggestions? |
| 16:51.52 | thingfish | synaptic is a sweet app. I use both it and apt-get about equally, just kind of depends on what I need to do and my mood. |
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| 16:51.57 | debiankid | bcl cose im afraid to the system ask me for more than 4 cd cose i ahve only 4 |
| 16:51.58 | bcl | jimr, dmesg command will show /var/log/dmesg |
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| 16:52.13 | debiankid | bcl and a friend of mine told me that debian are 16 cds |
| 16:52.16 | thingfish | bcl: do you have a fast internet connection? |
| 16:52.26 | thingfish | debiankid: 14, or 2 DVDs. |
| 16:52.27 | bcl | thingfish, yep. When changing repositories I always edit the source. |
| 16:52.42 | bcl | thingfish, 1.5M both ways. |
| 16:52.59 | Eulex | bluefox83, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg |
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| 16:53.01 | odla | tarzeau: do you want to play a game of bubbros sometime today? |
| 16:53.01 | thingfish | oh wait, sorry, that was for debiankid. |
| 16:53.16 | egon_spengler | debiankid, Those 14 cds are almost ALL the repository contents. You won't need them all |
| 16:53.26 | debiankid | thingfish werll i hope to the system no ask for the 5th cd cose i m going to reinstall again |
| 16:53.32 | thingfish | debiankid: do you have a fast internet connection? |
| 16:53.37 | debiankid | egon_spengler uff i hope so |
| 16:53.40 | Eulex | bcl, ah. no, you can't just browse packages with apt-get. though aptitude is quite good at doing that. |
| 16:53.44 | debiankid | thingfish well not really |
| 16:53.49 | bluefox83 | Eulex: i just read an error that said "glx is not supported with the Composite extension" in the error log |
| 16:54.03 | debiankid | thingfish 512kbits but i can download only 2 mb of data until 6pm |
| 16:54.17 | bcl | Eulex, aptitude reminds me too much of dpackage or whatever the old text interface was called. I always had problems with it screwing up the system. |
| 16:54.26 | thingfish | debiankid: oh ok, I was just going to tell you that what you can get the rest of what you need off the net. |
| 16:54.28 | debiankid | from 6 to 4 am i can download more |
| 16:54.35 | Eulex | bcl, aptitude != dselect |
| 16:54.39 | debiankid | thingfish ok i ll be here |
| 16:54.42 | bluefox83 | Eulex: please save that link for me, i'm going to comment out those lines in xorg.conf and restart x |
| 16:54.42 | Eulex | bluefox83, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg |
| 16:54.56 | bcl | Eulex, I know but I had such a bad experience. I'm scarred for life :) |
| 16:55.07 | Eulex | bcl, haha. |
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| 16:55.23 | debiankid | now my stm its setting up the services ..... and libraries |
| 16:55.28 | Syruss | wow man, I'm scarred for life. |
| 16:55.35 | Syruss | I just can't get lirc to work |
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| 16:55.53 | quitte | i have a problem with tar. the tarball contains a directory foo. but i want to extract things in that directory without creating that directory itself |
| 16:56.01 | *** part/#debian oiaYtdeTi (n=xaaokunv@85.108.48.242) |
| 16:56.05 | quitte | but i know theres only one directory inside |
| 16:56.13 | Eclipser | this is annoying |
| 16:56.25 | Eulex | bluefox83 should learn to use a console web browser |
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| 16:56.44 | Eclipser | my kernel panics because it can't find mountable root partition or something |
| 16:56.44 | bluefox83 | ok Eulex what was that link? |
| 16:56.45 | debiankid | wow daemon smbd started wow debian is fast |
| 16:57.06 | Karat3 | is there xmpp support in Konqueror? |
| 16:57.10 | gentgeen__ | I want to copy the "contents of a GeeXboX CD from Linux WITH THE CDROM TRANSPARENT DECOMPRESSION ENABLED" as noted on the website.... but how do I do that? |
| 16:57.13 | Karat3 | or does it make sense? |
| 16:57.15 | thingfish | quitte: easy to do with nautilus in gnome, simply drag and drop. |
| 16:57.18 | Syruss | heh |
| 16:57.22 | gentgeen__ | and I don't see a GeeXboX irc |
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| 16:57.28 | Syruss | seems like the module compile scripts are for 2.4 |
| 16:57.29 | quitte | thingfish: i need it in a script |
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| 16:57.37 | Syruss | grr |
| 16:57.52 | Eulex | bluefox83, http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency#Nvidia_.2B_Xorg |
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| 16:58.00 | bluefox83 | Eulex, thanks |
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| 16:58.41 | debiankid | now is Rebuilding database.... |
| 16:58.45 | thingfish | debiankid: you will find out, like most of us that use Debian, that it's as good as GNU/Linux gets. |
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| 16:59.39 | tkohegyi | hi there, anyone who can help me to make my lirc module work? (everything seems to be ok, as ususal) |
| 16:59.50 | thingfish | I mean, in the dictionary, when you look up the word 'reliable', it just says: Debian Sarge. |
| 16:59.54 | tarzeau | odla: yeah would be fun |
| 16:59.57 | debiankid | thingfish well this the first time that i put my hands on debian , and i think im going to get married with him :) |
| 17:00.02 | thingfish | hehe |
| 17:00.11 | quitte | tar man page doesnt help me. isn't there a way to leave out the first directory of the tree when untarring? |
| 17:00.12 | tarzeau | odla: i've got soomeone in the /query, and a movie on xawtv.... after that, ok? |
| 17:00.24 | takatumi | Syruss: gave up on module-assistant? it works for lirc too. |
| 17:00.27 | odla | tarzeau: sure...i just woke up so i'll need a bit for breakfast |
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| 17:00.49 | tarzeau | odla: you must be in the us |
| 17:01.13 | Eulex | bluefox83, I gotta go now, so if you've got any more problem, ask someone else... |
| 17:01.18 | Karat3 | is there xmpp support in Konqueror? |
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| 17:01.47 | odla | tarzeau: yup |
| 17:01.54 | tarzeau | odla: A/S/L? |
| 17:02.13 | bluefox83 | Eulex, ok, thanks |
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| 17:02.20 | fevoldj2 | Hi |
| 17:02.24 | fevoldj2 | Is there a php4 mssql package? |
| 17:02.32 | tarzeau | there's no mssql |
| 17:02.33 | odla | tarzeau: 25/m/Canada (but i'm an american |
| 17:02.34 | tarzeau | !mssql |
| 17:02.41 | debiankid | ups |
| 17:02.49 | tarzeau | dpkg mssql is are you sure you don't mean mysql? |
| 17:02.49 | fevoldj2 | There is one for php5, but I can't find it for php4 =( |
| 17:02.50 | dpkg | okay, tarzeau |
| 17:02.51 | debiankid | first trouble on the installation |
| 17:02.59 | fevoldj2 | I mean mssql |
| 17:03.03 | debiankid | take a look to this |
| 17:03.15 | tarzeau | fevoldj2: not mysql? |
| 17:03.17 | debiankid | there was a problen installing the selected softhware ......... |
| 17:03.21 | fevoldj2 | mssql |
| 17:03.25 | tarzeau | fevoldj2: on debian? |
| 17:03.31 | fevoldj2 | Just the php plugin |
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| 17:03.41 | tarzeau | fevoldj2: is it free software? |
| 17:03.46 | fevoldj2 | the plugin is |
| 17:03.47 | fevoldj2 | :p |
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| 17:04.04 | debiankid | one or more package s failed to install , this may be due to bugs in the packages , or may bve be out of disk space ... experiencis some other problem ... |
| 17:04.14 | debiankid | uff |
| 17:04.22 | thingfish | debiankid: which packages? |
| 17:04.26 | fevoldj2 | mssql is microsoft's version of sql. This is for a registration page on a linux web server. The database it needs to connect to is mssql. |
| 17:04.28 | debiankid | i gues h have to install again from the beguinning |
| 17:04.41 | thingfish | debiankid: did you indeed allow enough disk space? |
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| 17:04.58 | debiankid | well |
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| 17:05.12 | debiankid | with 10 gb are enougth space no? |
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| 17:05.20 | thingfish | debiankid: oh yes. |
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| 17:05.41 | thingfish | not that 10G is a lot, but it certainly should be enough for any install I can think of. |
| 17:05.52 | thingfish | how did you partition? |
| 17:05.59 | debiankid | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.10 | debiankid | ahh and swap 500mb |
| 17:06.27 | Haukkari | boot 1GB? |
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| 17:06.28 | debiankid | in total my server have 30 gb |
| 17:06.31 | debiankid | yup |
| 17:06.33 | brainiac_ghost | hi |
| 17:06.34 | Haukkari | dude, you're crazy. :) |
| 17:06.35 | an0y | do you realy need 1GB for the /boot ? |
| 17:06.36 | thingfish | if I were you, I'd just put it all on one partition. |
| 17:06.37 | Haukkari | My boot is 50MB |
| 17:06.42 | AciD | /root 2gb ? |
| 17:06.45 | debiankid | i know hahahah is too much |
| 17:06.49 | brainiac_ghost | hmm |
| 17:06.58 | debiankid | i was afraid |
| 17:07.05 | brainiac_ghost | does debian support selinux |
| 17:07.10 | debiankid | cose this is the first time i use debian :) |
| 17:07.17 | thingfish | I mean, you're playing with the machine, so it's not like your need for extra partitions is that great, unless of course you want to keep a /home. |
| 17:07.23 | debiankid | ok anyway im going to do all again from the start |
| 17:07.40 | brainiac_ghost | i know gentoo does :), but compiling takes ages on a 400 Mhz celeron although it works great on my desktop |
| 17:08.01 | debiankid | i can change the boot space only and rezise to 100mb |
| 17:08.01 | Haukkari | brainiac_ghost: ah, you are an evil genius, sir. |
| 17:08.19 | brainiac_ghost | Haukkari: how |
| 17:08.32 | debiankid | ok im going to reinstall again |
| 17:08.36 | Haukkari | brainiac_ghost: people didn't answer you and now you said that Gentoo, Debian's arch-rival (or something) does support it... It won't be many seconds until dozens of people tell you HOW you'll get SELinux in Debian. |
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| 17:09.11 | brainiac_ghost | Haukkari: mwhahahaha |
| 17:09.11 | debiankid | im going to install this time mysql - apache - smb-nmbd -named and the libs |
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| 17:09.14 | an0y | i'm affraid to install selinux, cause it's a nsa module. don't you ? |
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| 17:09.31 | brainiac_ghost | an0y: does it support any form of MAC |
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| 17:09.39 | an0y | i prefere grsecurity |
| 17:09.40 | quitte | an0y: it's opensource |
| 17:09.51 | zerojakel | i have a problem with my ati card |
| 17:09.59 | luigi_ | debiankid, life is too short, take option A in the installer (root and swap) install to the MBR, skip the packages, after the install, apt-get what you want |
| 17:10.02 | brainiac_ghost | well how would i get a hardened debian |
| 17:10.05 | an0y | made by nsa anyway |
| 17:10.14 | bcl | ooh, dat was bad. did an aptitude install x-windows-system-core and it removed a crapload of stuff... |
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| 17:10.35 | debiankid | luigi_ thats exactly what i am going to do |
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| 17:10.46 | madox | good evening. |
| 17:10.54 | an0y | look at this : http://www.grsecurity.net/ |
| 17:10.59 | crash3m_ | !t crash3m about security-testing |
| 17:11.06 | odla | here's my new gdesklet error http://pastebin.com/459634 |
| 17:11.06 | zerojakel | i cant have aceleration in my card |
| 17:11.10 | brainiac_ghost | an0y: how would i get it on debian |
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| 17:11.30 | brainiac_ghost | and is it possible to boot over PXE and then do an FTP install |
| 17:11.37 | quitte | an0y: if malicious code was inside it could be found anyhow. |
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| 17:11.39 | debiankid | hey creating a new partition |
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| 17:12.07 | debiankid | for example i want to set 100mb my boot what i type there 0.100GB OR 10% |
| 17:12.20 | thingfish | !harden |
| 17:12.20 | dpkg | i guess harden is D:SbD, or http://d-sbd.alioth.debian.org/, or read http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 17:12.21 | bcl | debiankid, 200M |
| 17:12.24 | madox | i use ispmail (installed with this tutor > http://workaround.org/articles/ispmail-sarge/index.shtml.en) and everything worked since the reboot of the woody dist. now postfix cant connect to the mysql.db anymore and gets always "Lost connection". it runs with tcp not via the socket. i can connect to the db normally (domains with db access are working flawlessly). any ideas? |
| 17:12.24 | debiankid | OR "10%" |
| 17:12.40 | madox | its driving me crazy :| |
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| 17:13.06 | an0y | brainiac_ghost : grsecurity ? |
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| 17:13.11 | debiankid | BCL OK |
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| 17:13.45 | bcl | debiankid, I always make boot a little bigger than recommended because if the system last any amout of time you will end up with 10 different kernels in there. |
| 17:13.47 | quitte | can someone explain to me what dpkg-source -x does different from untarring the orig.src and applying the diff? |
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| 17:13.52 | zerojakel | i have a motherboard via p4vm800, is this board suppport in linux??? |
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| 17:14.18 | heretohelp | quitte: the most important difference is chmod a+x ./debian/rules |
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| 17:14.47 | bcl | zerojakel, depends on what level of support. Linux works with most motherboards just fine until you get into video acceleration. |
| 17:14.55 | debiankid | bcl now i have 13gb free :) |
| 17:14.57 | thingfish | zerojakel: likely it'll be fine. |
| 17:15.04 | debiankid | bcl i erase all the partitions |
| 17:15.24 | quitte | heretohelp: what more worries me is how it does it in the case of binutils for example. the tar.gz contains a directory src. how does it know which directory to move to packagename-version before applying the diff? |
| 17:15.35 | debiankid | now i make the mayor space to var partition and home rigth? |
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| 17:16.19 | blondie | ism |
| 17:16.20 | quitte | heretohelp: couldnt find something about it in the .dsc |
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| 17:16.56 | debiankid | bcl for example home --5gb var--5gb root--1bg |
| 17:17.05 | jharrison | dudes |
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| 17:17.18 | debiankid | and the rest space to swap |
| 17:17.20 | jharrison | how do you guys feel about udev? |
| 17:17.32 | brainiac_ghost | can i install debian over PXE |
| 17:17.32 | ice_1963 | hay do xine have a plugin for firefox? |
| 17:17.38 | valdyn | quitte: did you actually look into the diff? |
| 17:17.58 | zerojakel | the problem is my aceleration card "ATI", i cant have aceleration, like a problem with the agp port |
| 17:18.08 | thingfish | debiankid: do what you want. I still think all in one partition, except for /home maybe, is fine. |
| 17:18.12 | heretohelp | quitte: it extracts the .orig.tar.gz into a temporary directory and them moves stuff. |
| 17:18.15 | thingfish | others disagree, I know. |
| 17:18.20 | quitte | valdyn: no, but it creates the binutils-version dir |
| 17:18.25 | debiankid | thingfish ok |
| 17:18.41 | bcl | zerojakel, my gigabyte via kt600 board never would work quite right with AGP 8x cards. Could be similar to that. |
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| 17:19.04 | bcl | zerojakel, I solved it by getting an Intel motherboard. |
| 17:19.08 | quitte | heretohelp: ok. so it would fail if the tarball contained multiple directories? |
| 17:19.14 | valdyn | quitte: you probably should, to see that dpkg-source -x does nothing fancy at all |
| 17:19.15 | brainiac_ghost | oh come on why won't anyone help me |
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| 17:19.27 | brainiac_ghost | i might move over to gentoo if i cant do this |
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| 17:19.41 | heretohelp | quitte: I do not know, am just trying to grok the perl code doing this movement. |
| 17:19.43 | quitte | valdyn: except move the output of tar to a proper directory name. |
| 17:19.48 | yang | If you want to work on the website, either by translating or by maintaining a corner of your own, you need to get write access to the files. I cannot create an account without the approval of our main web masters, hence, please send a mail to webmaster@debian.org - can this be done over IRC ? |
| 17:19.52 | valdyn | quitte: nope |
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| 17:19.58 | Eftarjin | hi |
| 17:20.07 | debiankid | bcl now is rigth |
| 17:20.10 | quitte | valdyn: ok ill have a look |
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| 17:20.24 | zerojakel | my board use the via chip pvm800 |
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| 17:20.30 | debiankid | bcl now is rigth now the screen of partitions show me a smileing face :) |
| 17:20.32 | Eftarjin | i've no sound since last reboot. alsaconf detects no soundcard. what could be wrong ? |
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| 17:20.41 | debiankid | i think now the setup is going to be ok |
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| 17:21.30 | quitte | valdyn: the patch is for binutils-version dir, not for src |
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| 17:21.50 | bcl | odla, heheh. |
| 17:22.00 | valdyn | quitte: yea |
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| 17:22.10 | odla | i thought he was trying to write because all this time |
| 17:22.12 | odla | but was lazy |
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| 17:22.16 | cahoot | brainiac_ghost: tried google? http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html#pxe |
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| 17:22.25 | quitte | valdyn: so src has to be moved either before or after patching - but it happens |
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| 17:22.48 | zerojakel | this board isnt good for linux, the p4vm800 |
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| 17:22.58 | quitte | valdyn: and im wondering how i could do it without the use of dpkg-source from a script |
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| 17:23.29 | thingfish | zerojakel: sorry, I looked up the board, saw it was old enough, thought it would probably be ok. |
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| 17:23.37 | galdinx | i need to be able to write on a ntfs file |
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| 17:23.44 | galdinx | how can i do ? |
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| 17:23.46 | heretohelp | quitte: take a look at /usr/bin/dpkg-source and there into the extracttar sub |
| 17:23.48 | valdyn | quitte: tar xzf yelp_2.12.2.orig.tar.gz && zcat yelp_2.12.2-1.diff.gz | patch |
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| 17:23.58 | Eftarjin | i've this in lspci. it seems to be my soundcard : VGA compatible unclassified device: Creative Labs: Unknown device 0402 (rev 06) |
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| 17:24.27 | quitte | valdyn: doesnt work |
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| 17:24.34 | brainiac_ghost | how would i configure my speedtouch 530's DHCP server to letm y current box be a PXE box |
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| 17:24.50 | valdyn | quitte: uh? i tried, this sure works |
| 17:24.58 | heretohelp | valdyn: that only works with proper .orig.tar.gz, dpkg-source sanitizes strange .orig.tar.gz files |
| 17:24.58 | quitte | valdyn: try with binutils |
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| 17:25.03 | quitte | valdyn: from sid |
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| 17:25.12 | zerojakel | i have this in xfree log: (EE) fglrx(0): [agp] unable to acquire AGP, error "xf86_ENODEV" |
| 17:25.12 | zerojakel | (EE) fglrx(0): cannot init AGP |
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| 17:25.18 | heretohelp | valdyn: like things not being in a subdir, or the subdir having the wrong name. |
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| 17:25.32 | hawking | I guess I am the newest debian user on the planet :) |
| 17:25.35 | debiankid | bcl now im restarting the computer |
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| 17:25.53 | valdyn | heretohelp: oh, like a broke patch or one that needs -p1 ? |
| 17:25.57 | debiankid | finished the 1rst installation |
| 17:26.05 | zerojakel | and in lspci get nothing |
| 17:26.25 | galdinx | how can i modify ntfs files using sarge 2.4 ? |
| 17:26.32 | zerojakel | lspci | grep agp |
| 17:26.38 | zerojakel | nothing |
| 17:26.40 | quitte | heretohelp: you wouldnt know how to do this sanitizing with a simple bash script instead of perl? |
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| 17:26.41 | thingfish | zerojakel: is this with sarge's 2.6 kernel? |
| 17:26.41 | hawking | how can i test if sarge has detected my camera or not? |
| 17:26.42 | heretohelp | valdyn: not the patch, the .orig.tar.gz. So that for example also .tar.gz's can be used where the author just did a tar -cvvzf ../bla.tar.gz * |
| 17:27.02 | valdyn | quitte: works fine for me |
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| 17:27.09 | thingfish | hawking: gnomemeeting is a possibility. |
| 17:27.15 | quitte | valdyn: weird |
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| 17:27.20 | zerojakel | thingfish: yes, and too probe a kernel 2.6.12 |
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| 17:27.35 | valdyn | quitte: tar xzf binutils_2.16.1cvs20051206.orig.tar.gz |
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| 17:27.46 | valdyn | quitte: zcat binutils_2.16.1cvs20051206-1.diff.gz | patch |
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| 17:27.49 | zerojakel | compile for i self |
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| 17:27.58 | zerojakel | compile me self |
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| 17:29.01 | quitte | valdyn: hmm 20051117 here |
| 17:29.01 | heretohelp | quitte: that's quite hard to do. and this is really something one of the tar program should offer. |
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| 17:29.56 | quitte | heretohelp: can dpkg-source be used to extract on a non-debian system? |
| 17:30.04 | galdinx | isn't there captive ntfs for debian ? |
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| 17:30.35 | valdyn | quitte: sure |
| 17:30.47 | LighTer | http://wretchedgaming.co.nr/ |
| 17:30.48 | zerojakel | what is the problem?, the motherboard o i have that configure a thing |
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| 17:30.59 | debiankid | hey now i am in the part of select the archive access method for apt |
| 17:31.01 | heretohelp | quitte: I think that dpkg stuff in general has an absurd amount of generalisation, so it will also work elsewhere. But one never knows before trying. |
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| 17:31.43 | thingfish | debiankid: well, you're installing from CDs, right? |
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| 17:31.46 | debiankid | im goingt to setup as edit sources list by hand |
| 17:31.51 | kane_ | quitte: dpkg will work on a lot of linux systems.. unix gets tricky, cygwin and win32 are out |
| 17:32.09 | valdyn | just that dpkg-source is not dpkg |
| 17:32.15 | debiankid | thingfish yes but give me trouble the last time , now i m going to edit sources list by hand |
| 17:32.15 | thingfish | debiankid: why, when you have the CDs? |
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| 17:32.26 | debiankid | i have 4 cds |
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| 17:32.45 | hawking | how can i totally remove kde from my system? |
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| 17:33.04 | quitte | heretohelp: ok. so using dpkg-source is the best i can do i guess |
| 17:33.10 | valdyn | !remove kde |
| 17:33.10 | dpkg | remove kde is probably apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 17:33.14 | SerajewelKS | hawking: apt-get remove kdelibs kdelibs4 |
| 17:33.22 | quitte | heretohelp,valdyn: thanks a lot |
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| 17:33.31 | Frostbite | I'm trying to get access to my SSH server from college. All ports are blocked and the http proxy requires a username/password. Is there a way to get around this? Is there some form of php or cgi client that would work? |
| 17:33.41 | debiankid | thingfish well thinking ........ im going to install from cd but this time im going to select the package installation manually |
| 17:34.04 | bcl | Frostbite, ALL ports are blocked? |
| 17:34.14 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: you mean connect to an ssh server located on campus from off campus, or connect from on campus to a remote server? |
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| 17:34.22 | loxley_ | Frostbite: there is maybe a reason for blocking ports, maybe so you can concentrate on studying ? :) |
| 17:34.24 | Xenguy | hawking: hrm, this is one idea for trying to clean up kde... |
| 17:34.29 | Frostbite | bcl: it's really locked down ... http/ftp proxy |
| 17:34.41 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, connect to a server off campus |
| 17:34.46 | bcl | Frostbite, change your ssh to run on port 80 :) |
| 17:34.56 | kane_ | frostbite: if they block the ports, run your ssh server on 443 |
| 17:34.58 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: gripe to your network admins. that policy is retarded. |
| 17:35.06 | bcl | Frostbite, ssh server I meant. |
| 17:35.08 | Xenguy | hawking: do this query -> dpkg -l kde* |grep ^ii |less |
| 17:35.10 | Frostbite | loxley_, I have lots of free periods and sometimes if my server goes down, I need to be able to ssh in |
| 17:35.15 | kane_ | if they block the protocol, use a webapplet (like webmins java ssh applet) |
| 17:35.27 | Xenguy | hawking: that will give you a list of some kde stuff you have installed |
| 17:35.29 | bcl | Frostbite, what school? |
| 17:35.40 | bcl | Frostbite, I want to make sure I don't send my kids there. |
| 17:35.41 | Frostbite | bcl/kane: that wouldn't work because it'd go through a passworded http proxy. You can't bring up options in ie to get the info |
| 17:35.46 | Frostbite | bcl: :P |
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| 17:36.03 | Frostbite | kane_, that ignores the proxy and trys to connect directly |
| 17:36.06 | Frostbite | Any ideas anyone? |
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| 17:36.08 | bcl | Frostbite, kripes! That ain't no network. |
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| 17:36.24 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: like i said, complain to your IT department |
| 17:36.34 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: closing every port in the name of "security" is stupid |
| 17:36.40 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, they've never heard of 'ssh' lol |
| 17:36.46 | zerojakel | help me!,nobody know? |
| 17:36.50 | flawd | How do I compile a deb from source? |
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| 17:36.51 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, the county set it up for them |
| 17:36.53 | binks_ | binks hello all can someone tell me if an epson r220 printer will work under linux and what i can use to print onto dvdmedia cheers |
| 17:36.54 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: then what the hell are they doing running an IT department |
| 17:37.04 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, my thoughts exactly |
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| 17:37.12 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: figures.. government strikes again |
| 17:37.16 | Frostbite | We get taught telnet is the main way to maintain a server |
| 17:37.16 | debiankid | bcl i am now in the configuration EXIM v4 exim4-config what is that ? |
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| 17:37.23 | debiankid | what is eximv4? |
| 17:37.25 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: are you a computer science student? |
| 17:37.26 | ForrestF | how do i installed mysql |
| 17:37.26 | u19809 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.30 | ForrestF | into debain |
| 17:37.32 | ForrestF | for apache |
| 17:37.37 | SerajewelKS | !tell ForrestF about enter |
| 17:37.42 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, I will be next year ... doing computing at alevel atm |
| 17:37.45 | Xenguy | flawd: 'checkinstall' is one tool that can build a DEB; you still need to satisfy dependencies tho |
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| 17:37.55 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: then you need to demand that they open the ports |
| 17:37.57 | bcl | debiankid, its the local mailer. Just set it up for local only mail. |
| 17:38.03 | debiankid | ok |
| 17:38.08 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: computer science students need the ability to do things online |
| 17:38.12 | hawking | I am trying to install the driver for my sound card and when I run configure it gives this error :---> "The file /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source/include/linux/version.h does not exist.Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source)." how can i get it? |
| 17:38.16 | bcl | Frostbite, hahahahah! telnet? I'd find a new school. |
| 17:38.30 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, Yeah I was planning to try that |
| 17:38.32 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: though if i were you i'd be re-evaluating whether or not they will have a decent computer science program, if this is how their network operates. |
| 17:38.48 | brainiac_ghost | damn it |
| 17:39.11 | ForrestF | so how do i install mysql into apache |
| 17:39.19 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, it doesn't really matter. I get 88-97% in my exams. I'm going to a good university to do CS ... it's not that important in 6th Form |
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| 17:39.29 | SerajewelKS | ForrestF: you don't install mysql "into" apache |
| 17:39.35 | ForrestF | i know |
| 17:40.00 | binks_ | binks hello all can someone tell me if an epson r220 printer will work under debian and what i can use to print onto dvdmedia cheers |
| 17:40.04 | brainiac_ghost | damn it |
| 17:40.09 | SerajewelKS | ForrestF: in fact, apache has nothing at all to do with mysql |
| 17:40.19 | ForrestF | install mysql to "work" with apache |
| 17:40.23 | brainiac_ghost | i don't know what to do |
| 17:40.27 | SerajewelKS | ForrestF: that's impossible |
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| 17:40.31 | debiankid | well now i want to install smb as pdc |
| 17:40.35 | SerajewelKS | ForrestF: apache does not know about mysql, and does not care about mysql |
| 17:40.41 | hawking | anyone knows? |
| 17:40.44 | brainiac_ghost | how do i configure the speedtouch 530's DHCP server to allow PXE booting |
| 17:40.53 | SerajewelKS | !tell hawking about anyone |
| 17:40.53 | heretohelp | ForrestF: most likely your apache will not work with a database, but apache might call programs that can deal with an database. |
| 17:40.57 | debiankid | bcl i m going to install smb as pdc |
| 17:41.04 | ForrestF | ... ok then how do i get mysql to work with PHP |
| 17:41.05 | ForrestF | there |
| 17:41.11 | ForrestF | rigth Q |
| 17:41.25 | hawking | SerajewelKS : did you see my question? your answer is useless |
| 17:41.25 | quitte | brainiac_ghost: i doubt it's possible |
| 17:41.26 | debiankid | bcl i have to type apt-cdrom add .. an them apt-cache install samba* right ? |
| 17:41.33 | cahoot | brainiac_ghost: already digested the info here? http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch04s06.html |
| 17:41.33 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, Is there such a thing as a php ssh client? i.e. I make an ssl'd pwd'd directory in apache. All ssh calls are localhost and I see a continually refreshing page. |
| 17:41.34 | brainiac_ghost | quitte: why |
| 17:41.39 | SerajewelKS | ForrestF: apt-get install php4-mysql |
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| 17:41.48 | SerajewelKS | hawking: "anyone knows?" is also useless |
| 17:41.52 | brainiac_ghost | i just want to set it to say this is the pxe file |
| 17:41.54 | quitte | brainiac_ghost: does it have possibilities to set tftp server and filename? |
| 17:42.08 | hawking | SerajewelKS : how can i get the kernel source? |
| 17:42.13 | flawd | ty Xenguy |
| 17:42.13 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: not that i know of. you might look at modifying CGI:IRC to do that. |
| 17:42.18 | ForrestF | thanks |
| 17:42.19 | heretohelp | Frostbite: there is at least an java applet. does your proxy allow connections java appletes do to their server? |
| 17:42.20 | SerajewelKS | hawking: for what kernel |
| 17:42.23 | bizkit | just installed postfix-tls (with sasl support) and all sasl packages, but only an entry for root is in the sasldb2. do i have to add every single user into the sasldb? i want to log in with all local users, so my auth mechanism on saslauthd is pam. any ideas? |
| 17:42.36 | Gnea | foo. |
| 17:42.43 | Frostbite | heretohelp, I don't have the details to auth with the http proxy |
| 17:42.52 | brainiac_ghost | i could just set up bootp right |
| 17:42.54 | Gnea | distcc doesn't like x86_64 nodes |
| 17:42.56 | hawking | serajewelKs : 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 17:42.56 | Frostbite | heretohelp, actually come to think of it it might be SOCKS |
| 17:42.56 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: does the proxy support SOCKS? |
| 17:43.05 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, probably |
| 17:43.08 | SerajewelKS | !info kernel-source-2.6.8 sarge |
| 17:43.18 | kartoo | how far is sysklogd, exim4, inetd necessary to be there in my startup services list? |
| 17:43.29 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: then use socats to proxy the ssh connection |
| 17:43.32 | valdyn | kartoo: leave it there |
| 17:43.37 | ForrestF | oh my, where is the default path to apatches www root |
| 17:43.43 | quitte | brainiac_ghost: so it does provide bootp service? do you have an tftp server setup somewher in your network? |
| 17:43.43 | hawking | SerajewelKS : dpkg doesn't know that as it seems :/ |
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| 17:43.47 | kartoo | valdyn: what are those services for? |
| 17:43.47 | bcl | Frostbite, this may be of some help - http://lists.ethernal.org/cantlug-0302/msg00430.html |
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| 17:44.00 | SerajewelKS | hawking: dpkg doesn't retrieve packages and install them, apt does |
| 17:44.01 | Gnea | ForrestF: it's all in /etc/ |
| 17:44.10 | hawking | SerajewelKS : I meant the bot |
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| 17:44.16 | SerajewelKS | hawking: ah |
| 17:44.19 | kartoo | valdyn: that exim4 takes very long to get started. what is that service for? |
| 17:44.21 | SerajewelKS | !info kernel-source-2.6.8-2 sarge |
| 17:44.24 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: actually, dpkg installs them, apt retrieves them |
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| 17:44.33 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, but I need the user/pass to auth with the SOCKS proxy, otherwise it won't work. Also, all .exe's are blocked unless run from an application share. |
| 17:44.35 | SerajewelKS | Gnea: well, yeah |
| 17:44.42 | Gnea | :) |
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| 17:44.45 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: wtf |
| 17:44.51 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: change schools. now. |
| 17:44.51 | hawking | SerajewelKS : woud linux-kernel-headers work for me? |
| 17:44.53 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, I know ... :/ |
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| 17:44.59 | valdyn | kartoo: its an mta, you can dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config and disable name lookups there and make it only deliver local mail, but you NEED it ( or an equivalent ) |
| 17:45.06 | SerajewelKS | hawking: depends what you are trying to do |
| 17:45.09 | heretohelp | Frostbite: does your IE on that machine allow running of java applets in websites? |
| 17:45.19 | hawking | SerajewelKS : that was my question : |
| 17:45.24 | hawking | I am trying to install the driver for my sound card and when I run configure it gives this error :---> "The file /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source/include/linux/version.h does not exist.Please install the package with full kernel sources for your distribution or use --with-kernel=dir option to specify another directory with kernel sources (default is /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source)." how can i get it? |
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| 17:45.34 | hawking | I am trying to install ALSA driver |
| 17:45.37 | SerajewelKS | hawking: yes, headers should be fine |
| 17:45.41 | Frostbite | heretohelp, yes, but as I said before java applets either connect directly, or have to auth with the socks proxy to get through |
| 17:45.45 | SerajewelKS | hawking: what is the module called |
| 17:45.47 | kartoo | valdyn: ok |
| 17:45.49 | Frostbite | heretohelp, I don't know the socks password |
| 17:45.52 | flawd | cupsd does not work, everytime I run it it gives "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited on signal 15!" |
| 17:46.00 | Gnea | hawking: in stable? which soundcard? |
| 17:46.00 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: set up a packet sniffer |
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| 17:46.09 | hawking | SerajewelKS : sorry what module? |
| 17:46.15 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, I can't run .exes |
| 17:46.17 | Gnea | Frostbite: go ask someone for it |
| 17:46.19 | SerajewelKS | hawking: the kernel module you're compiling |
| 17:46.21 | heretohelp | Frostbite: when run from IE, they should inherit their auth if there is any use in that concept at all. |
| 17:46.26 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: is this on your computer? |
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| 17:46.42 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, I'm at home now, but my user area at college blocks all .exes |
| 17:46.44 | Gnea | abrotman: sorry pal, get at the end of the line |
| 17:46.52 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: then you're screwed |
| 17:47.04 | abrotman | Gnea: do you have udev installed ? |
| 17:47.08 | odla | abrotman: will upgrading to testing f-up my backport packages? |
| 17:47.10 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, All I can think of is writing a command forwarder in python |
| 17:47.10 | Gnea | abrotman: sure do |
| 17:47.14 | abrotman | odla: maybe |
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| 17:47.22 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, there must be some way to do cgi ssh |
| 17:47.23 | abrotman | Gnea: do you have any usb-storage devices ? |
| 17:47.25 | Gnea | now that was interesting... |
| 17:47.25 | SerajewelKS | Frostbite: seriously, finish out this semester and switch colleges. flip off your IT department on the way out the door. |
| 17:47.33 | Gnea | abrotman: i do |
| 17:47.39 | abrotman | Gnea: do they .. work ? |
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| 17:48.06 | Gnea | abrotman: they.... do! |
| 17:48.07 | Frostbite | SerajewelKS, as I said, I'm not doing a degree. I'm in 6th Form which is between college and high school in the american system |
| 17:48.16 | noiseoly | anyone have an idea about what the simplest setup would be to connect my laptop to my desktop computer at home (both running debian) for file transfer? |
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| 17:48.23 | abrotman | Gnea: i load usb-storage and sd_mod .. and plug it in .. nothing |
| 17:48.23 | debiankid | how do i uninslall a package ? |
| 17:48.37 | abrotman | !tell debiankid about refcard |
| 17:48.40 | valdyn | noiseoly: ssh scp sftp, its installed already |
| 17:48.42 | abrotman | debiankid: man apt-get |
| 17:48.44 | odla | debiankid: apt-get remove --purge package |
| 17:48.45 | heretohelp | noiseoly: if both have a network card then a crossover cable |
| 17:48.56 | abrotman | Gnea: am i .. missing something ? |
| 17:49.04 | Tortel | How can I change my moniter power settings? (I have sarge with gnome) |
| 17:49.05 | noiseoly | valdyn: the point is I do not have a lan set up |
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| 17:49.14 | Gnea | abrotman: what are you using as a driver? usb-storage or ub? |
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| 17:49.22 | abrotman | Gnea: wtf is ub ? |
| 17:49.24 | flawd | cupsd does not work, everytime I run it it gives "Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited on signal 15!", I can not do "apt-get remove cupsys" either |
| 17:49.26 | Gnea | heh |
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| 17:49.26 | valdyn | noiseoly: yea, what heretohelp sais |
| 17:49.32 | noiseoly | ok |
| 17:49.38 | debiankid | ok |
| 17:49.39 | abrotman | Gnea: usb-storage ... |
| 17:49.43 | noiseoly | for ip adress setup I just give each one a static ip then? |
| 17:49.45 | debiankid | thanks |
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| 17:49.59 | valdyn | noiseoly: yea |
| 17:50.01 | Gnea | abrotman: ub is a miserable attempt at making usb mass storage easier - it sucks, it's a hack for non-scsi layer, and it blows goats. oh yeah, it sucks too. |
| 17:50.13 | ForrestF | how do i set debian to have a static IP |
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| 17:50.16 | Gnea | abrotman: did you compile your own kernel? |
| 17:50.19 | abrotman | Gnea: ok .. so it sounds like i'm going the right way .. but it doesn't work |
| 17:50.20 | abrotman | Gnea: no |
| 17:50.24 | Gnea | !tell ForrestF about interfaces |
| 17:50.27 | thingfish | Tortel: Applications>Desktop Preferences>Advanced>Screen Saver and you should see it. |
| 17:50.34 | noiseoly | cool, off to look up the pinouts for a crossover cable so I can resolder one of my existing ones to work :) |
| 17:50.37 | hawking | SErajewelKS : I got the headers and run configure again.it worked ok but make gave an error :---> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source SUBDIRS=/home/alip/alsa-driver-1.0.10 O=/lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/build modules make: *** /lib/modules/2.6.8-2-386/source: No such folder or file Stopped |
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| 17:50.45 | Gnea | abrotman: well it could be that a certain usb function is turned on when it should be off |
| 17:50.47 | noiseoly | thanks all |
| 17:50.57 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 17:51.01 | thingfish | Tortel: click on the Advanced tab, once you've done the above. |
| 17:51.04 | Tortel | thingfish: The power settings are greyed out |
| 17:51.06 | heretohelp | noiseoly: if you already have cables, do you also have a switch or hub? then you do not have to resolder |
| 17:51.06 | SerajewelKS | hawking: then you will need the sources |
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| 17:51.12 | Gnea | abrotman: i found this one on google too...forgot what it's called |
| 17:51.15 | SerajewelKS | hawking: but check if the module is in debian already |
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| 17:51.22 | thingfish | Tortel: is the Power Management box checked? |
| 17:51.24 | noiseoly | heretohelp: nope, only cables (just moved into a new place) |
| 17:51.27 | hawking | SerajewelKS : you mean the alsa drivers? |
| 17:51.27 | abrotman | Gnea: i do think it's odd that ehci and uhci are both loaded |
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| 17:51.42 | Tortel | thingfish: Yes, but that entire section is greyed out, I cant uncheck it |
| 17:51.48 | SerajewelKS | hawking: alsa drivers are kernel modules |
| 17:51.51 | Gnea | abrotman: why would that be odd? you don't have 1.1 and 2.0 controllers listed in lspci? |
| 17:51.51 | valdyn | abrotman: that isnt odd |
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| 17:52.00 | abrotman | i don't think i do |
| 17:52.11 | sfullenwider | What's the simpliest way to convert an mp3 to a wav? |
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| 17:52.17 | SerajewelKS | sfullenwider: lame --decode |
| 17:52.19 | Gnea | SerajewelKS: but you can download and compile newer drivers |
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| 17:52.28 | abrotman | oh . i lied . i do have both |
| 17:52.30 | hawking | SerajewelKS : there are alsa modules for 2.4 but not for 2.6 |
| 17:52.32 | Whisky_ | !resolv.conf |
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| 17:52.36 | thingfish | Tortel: is your monitor properly identified and installed? |
| 17:52.40 | SerajewelKS | hawking: ah |
| 17:52.47 | Gnea | sfullenwider: mpg123 -w file.wav file.mp3 |
| 17:52.57 | noiseoly | hey, one more thing, how do I stop dhclient from running on boot? I used ksysv and customized my runlevels but I am tired of it running every time |
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| 17:53.01 | hawking | SerajewelKS : so I guess I gotta get the sources |
| 17:53.09 | Tortel | thingfish: Im not too sure... I have set it up correctly for xfree.... |
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| 17:53.17 | Whisky_ | !resolvconf |
| 17:53.19 | Gnea | noiseoly: edit your interfaces file or uninstall it |
| 17:53.20 | Whisky_ | !resolv |
| 17:53.23 | Whisky_ | :/ |
| 17:53.28 | noiseoly | gnea: thanks |
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| 17:53.50 | Gnea | ok, now to try this compile again but with the laptop involved |
| 17:54.06 | abrotman | Whisky_: what are you looking for ? |
| 17:54.11 | flawd | Can I somehow easily compile a deb package from a source? Like "Make Deb" or something? Some package to make this work? |
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| 17:54.19 | debiankid | hey bud how can i remove in recursive mode a package for example samba |
| 17:54.21 | hawking | SerajewelKS : would this package work ? kernel-tree-2.6.8 |
| 17:54.29 | flawd | So I later can install that app by installing the deb and not by Make Install |
| 17:54.38 | valdyn | flawd: apt-get build-dep <package> && apt-get -b source <package> |
| 17:54.43 | bobbens | flawd: apt-get build-dep <package> && apt-get source --build <package> |
| 17:54.44 | goron | I added unstable entries to sources.list, then did apt-get update and then did aptitude install -t unstable emacs-snapshot-gtk. It says that there's no such thing as emacs-snapshot-gtk, while debian.org says there is. |
| 17:54.55 | flawd | ty |
| 17:54.58 | kyncani | debiankid: use debfoster |
| 17:55.06 | debiankid | ok |
| 17:55.17 | debiankid | debfoster? |
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| 17:55.25 | Tortel | !power |
| 17:55.25 | dpkg | tortel Has The Power! |
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| 17:55.27 | Tortel | :P |
| 17:55.29 | debiankid | i have to install that right? |
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| 17:56.01 | binks_ | anyone seen a cups driver for an epson r220 |
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| 17:56.10 | debiankid | for example debfoster samba |
| 17:56.16 | Tortel | binks_: try foomatic-gui |
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| 17:56.30 | Tortel | binks_: Great for CUPS |
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| 17:56.34 | binks_ | cheers |
| 17:56.46 | Oll_ie | hey if i want to download ebian do i ned to get all the isos?? |
| 17:56.52 | Tortel | no |
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| 17:57.00 | Tortel | only your arcitexture |
| 17:57.08 | Tortel | (I cant spell) |
| 17:57.17 | Oll_ie | cus i went to an ftp |
| 17:57.23 | Oll_ie | ad there was 11 isos! |
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| 17:57.34 | numist | Oll_ie: no, go find a net install |
| 17:57.35 | Gnea | Oll_ie: just get the first one and install the rest from the 'net |
| 17:57.37 | heretohelp | Oll_ie: no, mostly only the first of your architecture is enough. Depending on which packags you want |
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| 17:57.52 | Gnea | Oll_ie: unless you're on dialup then yes, get all 11 |
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| 17:57.59 | Oll_ie | but if i want to fully install i need to get all 11? |
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| 17:58.06 | Oll_ie | woah i aint gonna do that! |
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| 17:58.12 | heretohelp | Oll_ie: if you have net access, it might be a good idea to just get the netinstall or buiness card isos and get only the rest you really need. |
| 17:58.14 | Gnea | you're not going to install all 11 at once ;) |
| 17:58.18 | Tortel | Oll_ie: Only if you want every packages |
| 17:58.28 | Oll_ie | hmmm |
| 17:58.29 | noiseoly | Oll_ie: even with a full install you would probably not use the full contents of all 11 cds |
| 17:58.35 | Oll_ie | ok |
| 17:58.42 | Oll_ie | i cant net install cus of my wlan! |
| 17:58.42 | hawking | I wrongly deleted the menu.lst file in my grub directory :/ how can i get it back |
| 17:58.47 | Tortel | Oll_ie: Or if your not online most of the time |
| 17:58.55 | Gnea | Oll_ie: debian is flexible that way - you can do it via the cds, or you can get a minimal cd iso and use that to install everything else over the internet |
| 17:59.05 | Tortel | ^^ |
| 17:59.06 | Tortel | that |
| 17:59.09 | Tortel | :P |
| 17:59.12 | noiseoly | Oll_ie: have you looked into using a proxie? |
| 17:59.28 | Oll_ie | im currently using slackware and wanted a change... |
| 17:59.34 | Oll_ie | no not looked at proxies |
| 17:59.40 | Gnea | cool |
| 17:59.46 | abrotman | Gnea: there's really a line ? |
| 18:00.03 | Gnea | abrotman: did you miss the food stand? |
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| 18:00.22 | noiseoly | seeya |
| 18:00.24 | Oll_ie | ok so wat isos do u recommend getting? |
| 18:00.31 | Oll_ie | for 386 |
| 18:00.32 | Tortel | at least first one |
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| 18:00.49 | ts3 | is there any way to convert INFO files to a bunch of HTML files ? I hate `info` and would rather use FireFox |
| 18:00.59 | Tortel | That comes with basic setup and gnome/kde(I think) |
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| 18:01.15 | Oll_ie | i dont like gnome so im not to bothered about that one |
| 18:01.18 | Oll_ie | KDE i like |
| 18:01.21 | Whisky_ | How do i set an alias for the term "firefox" to launch /usr/local/bin/.firefox when i type "firefox" |
| 18:01.42 | abrotman | Gnea: yeah .. but damn it .. i'd like to do a backup! |
| 18:02.04 | heretohelp | Whisky_: either via the alias command in your shell's startup-scripts, or just call it /usr/local/bin/firefox and make sure it is in your path |
| 18:02.06 | abrotman | wtf was that god damn it! |
| 18:02.27 | Tortel | Oll_ie: you pretty much need CD 1 |
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| 18:02.47 | abrotman | Gnea: maybe it only works in a certain usb jack ? |
| 18:02.53 | Whisky_ | heretohelp, i have no clue what "it is in your path" means :/ |
| 18:02.55 | [LV]z1ng3r | hi. i get some mistery on my PC :)) when I connect my cell phone (sony ericsson k750i) to my PC with USB cable, there is nothing happening, but when i insert my flash memory into other usb port, my PC detect both of them and also asks to import pictures from my phone. what the problem might be that PC cannot detect cell phone without my flash memory card? |
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| 18:03.06 | Gnea | abrotman: what is it? a hard drive or a flash? |
| 18:03.17 | abrotman | Gnea: oh .. nfc .. it works now . .it wouldn't work a few hours ago |
| 18:03.21 | heretohelp | Whisky_: type echo $PATH and look if /usr/local/bin is in ther before /usr/bin |
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| 18:03.39 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: you need a driver for the phone |
| 18:03.40 | Whisky_ | /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11 |
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| 18:04.42 | heretohelp | Whisky_: then just call it /usr/local/bin/firefox and it should be used. (But please, do not run it as root) |
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| 18:05.20 | Thaiger | I'm trying to do a dist-upgrade and all the new packages download OK but when it goes to set up one of the openoffice packages it fails with something like trying to overwrite /usr/share/doc/openoffice.org/README.Debian.gz which is also in package openoffice.org-debian-files. This seems to be the only package that has a problem what can I do? |
| 18:05.22 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea: i suppose i don't need driver, because there already is driver, but it doesn't use it automatically... |
| 18:05.39 | [LV]z1ng3r | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.56 | mere | really. i want to know if there's something really wrong going with the organisation of the debian project, or what. under testing there were many problems with dependencies mismatch. updated to sid. it caused me some errors lucifer knows what, so i decided to reinstall the base system. some error occurs and the /home partition, which wasn't being read before (but accessible and running ok through knoppix) is completely erased. hm, ookay, very nice for someone |
| 18:05.56 | mere | who has to finish a thesis for tomorrow. now, i reinstall and the sistem (sarge) hoping for its stability and again a problem at the repositories. |
| 18:06.00 | heretohelp | Thaiger: try to remove all openoffice packets before upgrading, and adding them later. |
| 18:06.08 | cahoot | [LV]z1ng3r: so if you unplug both now and replug the phone - what gives? |
| 18:06.25 | mere | (...) Falha ao baixar http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/f/flex-old/flex-old_2. |
| 18:06.25 | mere | 5.4a-6_i386.deb 403 Forbidden |
| 18:06.25 | mere | Falha ao baixar http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/isdnutils/libcapi20- |
| 18:06.25 | mere | 2_3.6.2005-01-03-5_i386.deb 403 Forbidden |
| 18:06.25 | mere | Falha ao baixar http://ftp.br.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/isdnutils/libcapi20- |
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| 18:06.27 | Whisky_ | heretohelp, What do you mean by "call it" :S Sorry for being such a "n00b" |
| 18:06.38 | Tortel | laa |
| 18:06.40 | Tortel | bored |
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| 18:06.47 | Thaiger | heretohelp: I tried, but then I just get other errors about unmet dependencies |
| 18:06.56 | abrotman | Tortel: /j #debian-bugs |
| 18:07.09 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea then PC understands that i connect my phone and asks to import new photos |
| 18:07.29 | heretohelp | Whisky_: typing "firefox" and pressing Enter in your prefered terminal emulator (like xterm,rxvt,konsole,gnome-terminal, whatever) |
| 18:07.35 | odla | if i just installed a font from the debian repository how do i add it to my available fonts or should it do it automatically after restarting X? |
| 18:07.46 | mere | what's so terribly wrong?! |
| 18:08.18 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea simply i don't understand, why my PC doesn't understand my phone after reboot. only after inserting my flash memory card |
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| 18:08.42 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: i don't either |
| 18:08.50 | Thaiger | heretohelp: Nevermind, I think I got, I had to remove openoffice and all the packages it complained about with unmet denedencies. Thanks! |
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| 18:09.23 | thingfish | odla: it's my understanding that fonts you add, at least truetype ones, are instantly available. Someone else may know different, though. |
| 18:09.24 | Gnea | !br |
| 18:09.24 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 18:09.30 | heretohelp | Thaigar: did you have official openoffice packages installed before? |
| 18:09.52 | Whisky_ | (firefox-bin:4539): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: |
| 18:09.53 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea and it is so also on my other workstation box. for the first time i thought that i misconfigured something but when it happened also on other box, i decided to ask here for help ;) |
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| 18:10.06 | Gnea | !tell Whisky_ about sshx |
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| 18:10.45 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: so it's a mass storage device? |
| 18:10.48 | heretohelp | Thaigar: oh, wait, that bug is already in the BTS and marked as "upload pending" |
| 18:10.53 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea yes |
| 18:11.05 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: and what driver is it using? ub? |
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| 18:11.55 | Gnea | classic postal worker |
| 18:12.44 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea i suppose it uses usb_storage module, it is a "memory stick Duo" inside my phone |
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| 18:13.17 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: right, but it would have to devise some sort of scsi device in order to mount it |
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| 18:13.51 | jelly | hmm |
| 18:13.54 | jelly | !test |
| 18:13.56 | Whisky_ | Gnea, From what dpkg said, i edited the ssh conf. to enable X11 forwarding. The rest of it flew over my head |
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| 18:14.05 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: plug the stick in again, then do a dmesg > dmesg.txt and paste that file somewhere |
| 18:14.06 | Gnea | !paste |
| 18:14.13 | mattiolik | g |
| 18:14.13 | abrotman | !tell Whisky_ about sshx |
| 18:14.26 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 18:14.28 | abrotman | bah |
| 18:14.35 | Whisky_ | abrotman, i already got told :S |
| 18:14.36 | jelly | He's dead, abrotman. |
| 18:14.37 | abrotman | dondelelcaro: dpkg is dead |
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| 18:14.44 | Gnea | Whisky_: i did this not 10 minutes ago - you have to go to your X config and tell it to not do nolisten option, it was the only way |
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| 18:14.52 | abrotman | oh look |
| 18:14.54 | abrotman | !test |
| 18:14.54 | dpkg_ | Sorry, abrotman, I didn't get your test. |
| 18:15.05 | Gnea | !paste |
| 18:15.05 | dpkg_ | hmm... paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
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| 18:15.25 | noiseoly | I have two swap partitions, on consecutive partitions, how do I resize one to be just the right size for disk suspend, and leave the other with the excess? |
| 18:15.25 | jelly | dpkg, tell me about fuse |
| 18:15.28 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea i hosted on my www: http://console.lv/dmesg.txt |
| 18:15.35 | Gnea | looking |
| 18:15.36 | jelly | dpkg, you suck |
| 18:15.36 | dpkg_ | Dream on, jelly. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 18:15.40 | mattiolik | \motd |
| 18:15.43 | jelly | D'oh! |
| 18:15.51 | Gnea | ahaha |
| 18:16.17 | Whisky_ | Gnea, I swear I didn't get what you just said either :S |
| 18:16.46 | jelly | dpkg, why don't you answer /msgs? |
| 18:16.56 | abrotman | jelly: you ahve to msg dpkg_ |
| 18:17.00 | jelly | oh |
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| 18:17.32 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea: in this place "scsi0 (0:0): rejecting I/O to dead device" I unplugged both devices and then plugged my phone back to USB |
| 18:17.49 | Gnea | Firefox can't find the server at www.console.lv. |
| 18:17.54 | jelly | abrotman: hmm, seems to not work either, or they don't have the same factoid base. |
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| 18:18.10 | Gnea | !distcc |
| 18:18.10 | dpkg_ | i guess distcc is the Distributed C Compiler: http://distcc.samba.org/ A howto for Debian is here: http://myrddin.org/howto/debian-distcc.php which allows you to load balance large compiles (kernels, etc) across two or more locally networked systems |
| 18:18.17 | abrotman | jelly: yes they do |
| 18:18.18 | Gnea | jelly: i disagree. |
| 18:18.24 | [LV]z1ng3r | hm |
| 18:18.38 | jelly | dpkg, tell me about lol |
| 18:18.49 | Gnea | jelly: please do not abuse the bot. |
| 18:18.52 | abrotman | dpkg_: hi |
| 18:18.53 | jelly | dpkg_, tell me about lol |
| 18:18.59 | abrotman | oh ffs .. they both are dead now |
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| 18:19.14 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea: middle:~# host console.lv ; console.lv has address 193.41.45.28 |
| 18:19.19 | jelly | Gnea: I'm not, I'm trying to ask it about "fuse". |
| 18:19.26 | mere | am i online in here? |
| 18:19.29 | Gnea | [01:15PM] <jelly> dpkg_, tell me about lol |
| 18:19.32 | Gnea | lol != fuse |
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| 18:19.54 | jelly | Gnea: yup. however I'm sure that lol exists, and I'm not sure about fuse. |
| 18:19.55 | scenestar | 'lo room |
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| 18:20.04 | jason | lo all |
| 18:20.08 | Gnea | jelly: you'll just have to go to fuse.sf.net |
| 18:20.13 | scenestar | i have an interesting issue here |
| 18:20.14 | abrotman | jelly: they're both damn dead |
| 18:20.32 | scenestar | how can i install debian on a 64 bit turion |
| 18:20.36 | Gnea | dondelelcaro: dpkg and dpkg_ are borked |
| 18:20.40 | jelly | Gnea: I suppose it would be better if the bot said that is doesn't know anything about an unknown factoid. |
| 18:20.43 | Gnea | !amd64 |
| 18:20.43 | dpkg_ | i guess amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 18:20.46 | scenestar | without having a failing acpi light my hiuse on fire |
| 18:20.47 | Gnea | oh wait |
| 18:20.49 | abrotman | god damn it |
| 18:20.57 | Gnea | jelly: i guess the bot doesn't like you |
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| 18:21.05 | abrotman | dpkg_: hi |
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| 18:21.10 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 18:21.10 | dpkg_ | privet, abrotman |
| 18:21.26 | abrotman | hehe .. dpkg_ won't answer to dpkg_ |
| 18:21.30 | jelly | Gnea: I don't like it either, so I killed it. ;-) |
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| 18:21.36 | abrotman | err to /msg dpkg_ |
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| 18:21.39 | abrotman | whatever |
| 18:21.41 | Gnea | jelly: oh really? |
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| 18:21.49 | brainiac_ghost | you gus should check out gentoo it's like thousands of times better than debian |
| 18:21.51 | ForrestF | in debian does "apachectl restart" restart apche |
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| 18:21.52 | brainiac_ghost | *guys |
| 18:21.55 | Syruss | when using make-kpkg, what should I use for the revision argument, --revision `uname-r`? |
| 18:22.02 | jelly | !test |
| 18:22.02 | dpkg_ | Yes, jelly, you're still online. |
| 18:22.06 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: just use the paste site |
| 18:22.07 | Gnea | !paste |
| 18:22.07 | dpkg_ | somebody said paste was Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 18:22.08 | [sr] | hi people, have a big problem here :P |
| 18:22.24 | abrotman | you do? |
| 18:22.25 | Whisky_ | there was something for the display which i forgot.....set DISPLAY=:0 |
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| 18:22.31 | Whisky_ | noops, it was something similar to that |
| 18:22.38 | Gnea | brainiac_ghost: go eat some more bird turds |
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| 18:22.51 | [sr] | i have a .zip file with a .tar inside that has more than 2gb, and the fs doesn't suport that, and now unzip doesn't want to unzip the file, what can i do? |
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| 18:23.11 | Gnea | [sr]: get it to a fs that does support it |
| 18:23.23 | [sr] | dthat's not the solution man |
| 18:23.25 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea http://channels.debian.net/paste/1266 |
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| 18:23.37 | Gnea | yes, yes it is |
| 18:23.51 | noiseoly | sr: maybe extract on an fs that supports it, then transfer files one at a time? |
| 18:24.11 | [sr] | that's strange you know |
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| 18:24.24 | abrotman | [sr]: that is the solution |
| 18:24.25 | [sr] | because the file was on a reiserfs 3.6 and now that an reiserfs 3.6 also |
| 18:25.00 | Gnea | reiserfs sucks more than gentoo does |
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| 18:25.09 | Syruss | lol |
| 18:25.12 | Gnea | the problem is obvious |
| 18:25.14 | Syruss | resierfs is superior |
| 18:25.23 | abrotman | reiser is garbage |
| 18:25.26 | noiseoly | so I see that cfdisk will expand a partituion to take up adjoining space, but how do I safely shrink a partition? |
| 18:25.26 | [sr] | everyone has its own opinion |
| 18:25.27 | Whisky_ | Gnea, help me fix the display, please :S |
| 18:25.28 | Gnea | superior at sucking raw sewage |
| 18:25.32 | Syruss | lol |
| 18:25.32 | brainiac_ghost | Gnea: gentoo doesn't suck |
| 18:25.33 | [sr] | Gnea go to NTFS :D |
| 18:25.42 | brainiac_ghost | Gnea: i use reiserfs as wel |
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| 18:25.48 | Gnea | brainiac_ghost: you are in the wrong channel. |
| 18:25.51 | Syruss | use fat16 then |
| 18:25.55 | Gnea | haha |
| 18:25.59 | abrotman | brainiac_ghost: you're all kinds of screwed up :) |
| 18:26.07 | jelly | brainiac_ghost: reiserfs sucks too. ;-) |
| 18:26.10 | [sr] | what is better then reiset? extX ? |
| 18:26.11 | brainiac_ghost | Gnea: i want to install debian on an old pc |
| 18:26.12 | brainiac_ghost | :) |
| 18:26.13 | [sr] | i don't think so.. |
| 18:26.46 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: fdisk -l /dev/sda <-- anything? |
| 18:26.53 | jelly | [sr]: I do think so. I've just transferred our 200GB news spool from reiserfs to ext3. And we have UPS-es. |
| 18:26.56 | abrotman | [sr]: really .. reiser is bad |
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| 18:27.21 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea: /dev/sda1 * 1 972 62188+ 6 FAT16 |
| 18:27.29 | [LV]z1ng3r | that was the last line |
| 18:27.32 | Gnea | [sr]: ext3 is awesome. far, far less likely to lose data with it |
| 18:27.33 | abrotman | hrm .. help Gnea subdue the masses .. or play video games |
| 18:27.52 | bit0 | hi |
| 18:27.57 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: sounds good - is it mounted? df? |
| 18:28.12 | [LV]z1ng3r | /dev/sda1 62136 24272 37864 40% /media/usbdisk |
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| 18:28.15 | Gnea | brainiac_ghost: go talk to your mom :) |
| 18:28.22 | [sr] | ham... never had problems with reiser, but with ext3... oh good, a simple power lose just fucked up the partition |
| 18:28.25 | brainiac_ghost | Gnea: no |
| 18:28.26 | brainiac_ghost | :) |
| 18:28.41 | Gnea | Whisky_: i told you - go edit your X configs to allow it to run on port 6000 |
| 18:28.53 | Gnea | Whisky_: and xauth is helpful |
| 18:29.05 | Whisky_ | Gnea, Where do I edit X's configs? |
| 18:29.15 | noiseoly | so is it safe to delete my two swap partitions, and create new ones of the right sizes? I do not want to hose this machine |
| 18:29.19 | Gnea | Whisky_: all config files are kept in /etc |
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| 18:29.35 | Whisky_ | ok..and what about xauth? What do i do? |
| 18:29.37 | jelly | [sr]: good for you. I have watched a reiserfsck run for 72 hours and it wasn't funny. ;-) |
| 18:29.42 | Gnea | RTFM |
| 18:29.47 | Gnea | man xauth |
| 18:29.56 | Whisky_ | geez :/ |
| 18:30.00 | Gnea | just do the homework |
| 18:30.01 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea: yes, it is mounted. /dev/sda1 62136 24272 37864 40% /media/usbdisk |
| 18:30.03 | Gnea | it's simple |
| 18:30.10 | Gnea | !ask |
| 18:30.10 | dpkg_ | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:30.38 | Whisky_ | by the way, how do i install a RPM on Debian? The linux-ntfs driver seems to be available in RPM's only |
| 18:30.41 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: shouldn't be a problem then - are you using some sort of file browser? |
| 18:30.54 | Gnea | Whisky_: alien |
| 18:31.02 | nostur | hi, anyone here have experience with debian eggdrop packages? |
| 18:31.16 | Gnea | dork |
| 18:31.31 | Whisky_ | k |
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| 18:31.52 | Gnea | ah yup, it's sunday |
| 18:32.02 | brainiac_ghost | i have a problem with compile times; i'm running gentoo version 2005.1-r1. when i try to do emerge -av hi i get the following output emerge: there are no ebuilds to satify "hi". i expected it to install a package called hi |
| 18:32.18 | brainiac_ghost | i have a problem with portage; i'm running gentoo version 2005.1-r1. when i try to do emerge -av hi i get the following output emerge: there are no ebuilds to satify "hi". i expected it to install a package called hi |
| 18:32.19 | Gnea | brainiac_ghost: wrong channel. |
| 18:32.23 | js_ | brainiac_ghost: ##gentoo |
| 18:32.27 | Gnea | !troll brainiac_ghost |
| 18:32.35 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea everything is ok with my phone. the problem is that my PC doesn't mount my phone after reboot. i need to plug in my usb flash memory card to activate *something* that help to find my phone connected to PC in future till next reboot |
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| 18:32.53 | nostur | !ask eggdrop |
| 18:32.57 | nostur | damn |
| 18:33.15 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: yeah, that sounds about right - all phones work that way |
| 18:33.37 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: then again, i haven't used too many, but those i have used required a procedure similar to that |
| 18:33.44 | jason | I have a general lin question, I keep getting a dmesg "Disabling IRQ 5" |
| 18:33.49 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: you'll just have to live with it |
| 18:33.50 | jason | it's really kinda weird... |
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| 18:34.03 | odla | i am getting this error for gdesklets...could someone look at it and let provide some suggestions http://pastebin.com/459755 |
| 18:34.31 | [LV]z1ng3r | Gnea ok, thanks. now i just know that this happens with everyone, not only with me and there is nothing i could do |
| 18:35.00 | Gnea | [LV]z1ng3r: at least you know it's mounted and that it's readable :) |
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| 18:35.49 | kingsley | How different is version 1.5 of firefox from 1.0.7? |
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| 18:36.10 | Thaiger | I'm trying to install a new kernel so I did an apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386, but then when it goes to set it up it says failed to find a suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.14-2-386 on running kernel 2.4.27-2-386 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird How do I install something suitable |
| 18:36.10 | nostur | its newer |
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| 18:36.30 | EdLin | kingsley: it's more productive on #debian |
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| 18:36.41 | Gnea | YES! distcc is working!! |
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| 18:37.02 | odla | kingsley: i don't think it's much different except that it crashes unexpectedly on me |
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| 18:38.16 | noiseoly | where do I edit which swap devices are used on boot? I forget |
| 18:38.46 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:38.52 | noiseoly | thanks, gnea |
| 18:38.55 | blondie | f-stab |
| 18:38.57 | Gnea | np |
| 18:39.00 | Gnea | :) |
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| 18:40.04 | Gnea | ok, 2.6.14 just built in less than 3 minutes. |
| 18:40.22 | abrotman | distcc ? |
| 18:40.26 | Gnea | yup |
| 18:40.41 | Gnea | it's doing the modules now |
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| 18:40.52 | abrotman | just imagine a beowulf cluster of distcc machines! |
| 18:41.03 | Gnea | man |
| 18:41.09 | Gnea | i wanna get xen working |
| 18:41.11 | Gnea | ;) |
| 18:41.17 | CAiRO | i'm running a raid5 and one disk has been marked faulty, how can i found out the reason why it has been marked faulty? |
| 18:41.20 | kimo | I wanna get a laptop that will allow me to (run multiple servers, ldap/apache/sendmail...) may be test with Xen vms. Would you say 1G ram is a must, or is 512 MB just enough ? |
| 18:41.38 | Gnea | CAiRO: check documentation of the controller |
| 18:41.47 | CAiRO | it's a software raid |
| 18:41.59 | Gnea | kimo: 1G, at least |
| 18:42.10 | Gnea | CAiRO: ouch. dunno |
| 18:42.21 | abrotman | the md tools still should be able to say why |
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| 18:43.08 | Gnea | abrotman: i had to take my em64t out of the rotation though, its compiler isn't cross-compatible with 32bit byte code |
| 18:43.12 | ForrestF | um |
| 18:43.30 | kimo | Gnea: hmm thnx... do u know if circuitcity would let me customize & add more ram! |
| 18:43.40 | ForrestF | i installed mysql for php4 and i got a Warning: mysql_connect(): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
| 18:43.56 | Gnea | kimo: NFC, best buy and fry's would be a safer bet |
| 18:43.59 | abrotman | Gnea: that's a bit odd |
| 18:44.25 | abrotman | ForrestF: is it actually running ? |
| 18:44.33 | Gnea | abrotman: yeah that's what i said - but once i dropped it out of the list i wasn't getting anymore compile errors |
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| 18:44.39 | Andy0377 | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: webmin is broken or not fully installed |
| 18:44.41 | Andy0377 | any idea? |
| 18:44.46 | ForrestF | no, lol |
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| 18:44.49 | abrotman | Gnea: did you ask #gcc ? |
| 18:44.51 | ForrestF | how do i start is? |
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| 18:45.05 | [sr] | Gnea unzip problem, 7zip decompressed it :P |
| 18:45.06 | Gnea | abrotman: nope! not gonna worry about it now |
| 18:45.20 | Gnea | [sr]: hahaha cool |
| 18:45.53 | [sr] | gonna write a bug to unzip dev :P |
| 18:45.54 | odla | is there a general gnome help room? not necessarily associated with debian...i'm sure it's at irc.gnome.org |
| 18:46.01 | crash3m_ | #gnome |
| 18:46.13 | abrotman | [sr]: they'd tell you to use gzip and gunzip . like a normal person |
| 18:46.20 | Andy0377 | anyone help i wanna install webmin and i get... |
| 18:46.22 | Andy0377 | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: webmin is broken or not fully installed |
| 18:46.25 | Andy0377 | that error ^^^^ |
| 18:46.29 | Gnea | !repeat |
| 18:46.29 | dpkg_ | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 18:46.31 | odla | crash3m_: i just tried that...thanks! |
| 18:46.35 | abrotman | !webmin |
| 18:46.36 | dpkg_ | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://www.webmin.com/webmin/ but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
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| 18:47.12 | abrotman | Andy0377: and the rest of that error should tell you exactly what to do |
| 18:47.17 | jelly | Andy0377: the installation was interrupted or broken. try to finish that first: dpkg --configure webmin, then use dpkg-reconfigure or whatnot. |
| 18:47.26 | Gnea | wtf... |
| 18:47.31 | Gnea | dpkg-gencontrol: error: Illegal package name `linux-image-2.6.1412112005_garson' |
| 18:47.31 | Gnea | make[1]: *** [debian/linux-image-2.6.1412112005_garson] Error 255 |
| 18:47.43 | Gnea | illegal package name? bullshit! |
| 18:47.54 | Gnea | ooooh |
| 18:47.56 | abrotman | Gnea: can't name packages after disney characters! |
| 18:48.00 | jelly | Gnea: underscore? |
| 18:48.06 | Andy0377 | when i run dpkg --configure webmin i get.... |
| 18:48.06 | Gnea | *2.6.1412112005* |
| 18:48.10 | Gnea | jelly: no, period |
| 18:48.13 | Andy0377 | Setting up webmin (1.180-3) ... |
| 18:48.13 | Andy0377 | miniserv.pem: No such file or directory |
| 18:48.13 | Andy0377 | hostname: Unknown host |
| 18:48.13 | Andy0377 | dpkg: error processing webmin (--configure): |
| 18:48.13 | Andy0377 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:48.17 | blal | Does anyone know of a version of vncserver (or a workaround) that usees some alternative form of authentication (pam?)? I'm trying to streamline remote logins & remove an instance of entering a password w/o opening vncserver to the world. |
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| 18:48.24 | Gnea | !tell Andy0377 about paste |
| 18:48.26 | Andy0377 | #flood |
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| 18:49.27 | danieldg | blal: is it practical to tunnel a passwordless server through SSH? |
| 18:49.32 | Andy0377 | http://pastebin.com/459774 |
| 18:49.49 | abrotman | why is the server passwordless ? |
| 18:50.57 | blal | abrotman : danieldg : At present, the server has a password. I ssh in (enter a passphrase for the key) and then enter a password for the vnc server. I'd like to cut down on a password entry if possible. |
| 18:51.28 | blal | abrotman : danieldg : I thought about tunneling into a passwordless server, bu that would let any schmuck with an account on the server log in as me :) |
| 18:51.43 | jelly | Andy0377: your machine appears not to have a hostname. |
| 18:51.57 | jelly | Andy0377: does "hostname" return anything? |
| 18:51.58 | AciD | blal > you can first copy your rsa key on the server in order to don't have to type your password for each new connections |
| 18:52.28 | Gnea | blal: rsa keys will work |
| 18:53.04 | blal | Gnea : Interesting. How does this work? |
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| 18:53.20 | _gass_ | hello there |
| 18:53.20 | Gnea | !google ssh keygen howto |
| 18:53.27 | danieldg | blal: are you the only one to use the VNC server? |
| 18:53.28 | dpkg_ | Google says ssh keygen howto is at http://www.arches.uga.edu/~pkeck/ssh/ or http://kimmo.suominen.com/docs/ssh/ or http://www.cs.umd.edu/~arun/misc/ssh.html or http://www.csua.berkeley.edu/ssh-howto.html or http://www.sshkeychain.org/mirrors/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO/SSH-with-Keys-HOWTO-4.html |
| 18:53.28 | _gass_ | can anyone help me with dpkg-divert? |
| 18:53.38 | Gnea | blal: ^^^ there ya go |
| 18:53.41 | jelly | Gnea: yeah, but still he has a problem with the vnc password. |
| 18:53.54 | Gnea | jelly: one roadblock at a time |
| 18:53.55 | _gass_ | i want to change some conf files, and i am trying to use dpkg-divert to do it |
| 18:54.04 | Gnea | jelly: but you can help him with that, i'm off to bed |
| 18:54.08 | blal | danieldg : Yes. I'd like to keep a vncserver running w/ me logged in all the time. |
| 18:54.44 | blal | Gnea : If you mean to use an RSA key to authenticate incoming ssh sesssions, then I'm already doing that. |
| 18:54.50 | valdyn | blal: bind the vncserver to loopback only, run the ssh tunnel locally connecting vnc to youre ethernet ( or whatever you use for remote connections ) |
| 18:55.00 | danieldg | blal: if you are root, you could add an iptables rule to only let your uid connect to the local port |
| 18:55.02 | Andy0377 | jelly: yes "webserver" |
| 18:55.08 | _gass_ | using dpkg-divert --divert /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf --rename /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf.divert can i install my conf file as /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 18:55.09 | _gass_ | ? |
| 18:55.16 | blal | danieldg : Aha. I think that would do it. |
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| 18:55.36 | jelly | Andy0377: and "hostname -d" ? |
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| 18:55.46 | danieldg | blal: look at the 'owner' match in iptables |
| 18:55.48 | kimo | what's a CLI tool to show me network rates? like eth0: 122kb/s ... |
| 18:55.53 | Andy0377 | hostname: Unknown host |
| 18:55.56 | danieldg | kimo: iftop |
| 18:55.59 | nairu | ragazzi qualcuno sa dirmi se real player è open source? |
| 18:56.05 | BeBoo | kimo, iptraf |
| 18:56.09 | jelly | Andy0377: there's your problem, no domain. |
| 18:56.17 | blal | valdyn : That would restrict vnc sessions to local acounts. I'm looking for even more precision: only one specific user. |
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| 18:56.25 | Andy0377 | jelly: how can i solve it? |
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| 18:57.05 | ooev | any one notice that the using deboostrap to install unstable is broken? |
| 18:57.18 | abrotman | ooev: it is unstable :) |
| 18:57.28 | blal | Thanks, all, for your help. |
| 18:57.38 | ooev | abrotman, for a long time though |
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| 18:58.01 | ubick | org |
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| 18:58.22 | jelly | Andy0377: put the full name in /etc/hosts in addition to the short name, like this: |
| 18:58.35 | ooev | E: Couldn't download libsigc++-1.2-5c102 |
| 18:58.40 | jelly | Andy0377: 161.53.2.217 jurina.srce.hr jurina |
| 18:58.51 | ooev | it's just that another package replaces this one. |
| 18:59.03 | ooev | should be trival to fix. damn, i dont know how to do it. |
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| 18:59.16 | jelly | Andy0377: I _think_ that should solve it, but I'm not 100% certain. Try hostname -d too see if it works. |
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| 18:59.45 | ddfire | hi, i am tring to modifi the /etc/skel but debian ignore the change what i can do? |
| 18:59.59 | valdyn | ddfire: ignore what? |
| 19:00.03 | ooev | libsigc++-1.2-5c2: this is the new package? |
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| 19:00.24 | abrotman | ooev: just do etch .. then upgrade |
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| 19:00.32 | SerajewelKS | out of curiosity, what happens if you disable a swap partition and there is not enough free memory in RAM and/or other swap partitions to unswap the information to? |
| 19:01.00 | valdyn | SerajewelKS: oom-killer hits you? |
| 19:01.01 | jelly | nairu: I think not, but helix-player is. |
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| 19:01.08 | ddfire | valdyn, when i make a new user it ignore the change to /etc/skel, i am changing the file which control the kde menu ../.configure/menus/application... |
| 19:01.10 | ooev | abrotman, just bring it up here. hope somebody notices this. |
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| 19:01.22 | abrotman | ooev: we've heard .. did you see any bugs about it ? |
| 19:01.26 | kimo | Gnea: would u get a centrino based system, or a Turion one ? |
| 19:01.35 | SerajewelKS | valdyn: yeah, that's one option. the other is that the swap disable fails. but i'm too afraid to try. |
| 19:01.51 | acid-trip | ok i have a torrent program on my box now how do i totally kill them cause when i ctrl+z they still show up in my ps aux |
| 19:02.12 | jelly | SerajewelKS: I think you can't disable it in that case. |
| 19:02.12 | SerajewelKS | acid-trip: do you know what ctrl+z does? |
| 19:02.12 | kimo | acid-trip: ctrl-c ? |
| 19:02.28 | demonbane | acid-trip: ctrl+z only suspends the app, it doesn't kill it |
| 19:02.29 | acid-trip | SerajewelKS uhmm sounds stupid but no |
| 19:02.39 | acid-trip | ok how can i kill them then |
| 19:02.39 | kimo | SerajewelKS: it's amazing how many people think ctrl-z is for killing :) |
| 19:02.46 | SerajewelKS | acid-trip: ctrl+c |
| 19:02.46 | ooev | abrotman, let me see if it's filed before. |
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| 19:03.00 | abrotman | !dbugs 342838 |
| 19:03.02 | marstewel | only redhat and maybe suse have /etc/sysconfig, right? |
| 19:03.03 | dpkg_ | #342838:W[debootstrap] debootstrap: Please include support for Ubuntu dapper; Sun, 11 Dec 2005 03:18:01 UTC |
| 19:03.04 | abrotman | that's freaking awesome |
| 19:03.07 | SerajewelKS | kimo: i don't get it.. who hasn't learned about ctrl+c at least from dos? O_o |
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| 19:03.22 | acid-trip | is there a way to killall /usr/bin/python |
| 19:03.23 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: haha |
| 19:03.32 | SerajewelKS | acid-trip: killall python |
| 19:03.32 | kimo | acid-trip: killall python |
| 19:03.36 | SerajewelKS | god... |
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| 19:05.06 | kimo | guys, would u recommend a centrino/pentiumM system or a AMD Turion one ? (is there a clear winner?) |
| 19:05.07 | ddfire | which is the correct way to change /etc/skel so the new users take thath config??? |
| 19:05.17 | ooev | abrotman, this is not the same problem. |
| 19:05.22 | Andy0377 | i still get unknown host |
| 19:05.26 | abrotman | ooev: as what ? |
| 19:05.29 | ke6isf | !tell kimo -about u |
| 19:05.35 | demonbane | anyone know a way to identify a piece of hardware that, as far as i can tell, is not showing up in /proc, /sys, or via lspci? (a touchscreen on a tablet to be exact) |
| 19:05.45 | crash3m_ | demonbane: lshw |
| 19:06.01 | kimo | demonbane: it might be treated as a mouse |
| 19:06.04 | abrotman | ooev: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=334506 |
| 19:06.06 | demonbane | crash3m_: already tried it. Not listed in there. |
| 19:06.29 | ooev | abrotman, right this is the one! |
| 19:06.35 | demonbane | kimo: i've tried cat-ing /dev/input/*, and i can see events from the keyboard and the touchpad, but the touchscreen doesn't generate anything |
| 19:06.37 | digital__ | kimo the skeleton is executed by bash at startup |
| 19:06.38 | ooev | abrotman, how do u find out so quick? |
| 19:06.43 | jelly | SerajewelKS: swapoff: /dev/hda5: Cannot allocate memory |
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| 19:07.05 | ddfire | please help me!!!! |
| 19:07.07 | SerajewelKS | jelly: nice |
| 19:07.19 | kimo | digital__: not asking about skeleton |
| 19:07.29 | kimo | demonbane: check dmesg! |
| 19:07.29 | abrotman | ooev: because i can read!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 19:07.40 | Whisky_ | my kernel is 2.6.8.2-686 so if I use 2.6.8-1.521 version of the NTFS driver will it still work ? |
| 19:07.48 | Andy0377 | jelly:i still get unknown host |
| 19:07.48 | abrotman | ooev: regardless .. it says it's been resolved |
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| 19:08.06 | SerajewelKS | Whisky_: the debian kernel images comes with an ntfs driver |
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| 19:08.14 | SerajewelKS | s/comes/come/ |
| 19:08.17 | Whisky_ | oh :| |
| 19:08.29 | ddfire | how i change the new user configuration in /etc/skel ???????????? |
| 19:08.43 | kimo | ddfire: just change that directory! |
| 19:08.43 | demonbane | kimo: did that as well. When psmouse gets loaded, it registers two serio devices, one on mouse0 and one on mouse1. mouse1 is the touchpad. mouse0 doesn't do anything afaict. |
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| 19:08.57 | ooev | abrotman, great! |
| 19:09.05 | kimo | gah! did u try google! |
| 19:09.06 | ddfire | kimo, IT IGNORE THE CHANGE |
| 19:09.16 | ddfire | sorry for the caps |
| 19:09.18 | Whisky_ | but I dont have NTFS in the list when i do cat /proc/filesystems |
| 19:09.30 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: how are you creating users? |
| 19:09.45 | kimo | ddfire: when u create new users, their home will be copied from skel. Current users are not affected! |
| 19:09.48 | demonbane | kimo: if you mean me, yes. i was at it ALL day yesterday. that's when i finally gave up and came here. :) |
| 19:09.51 | SerajewelKS | Whisky_: modprobe ntfs? |
| 19:09.53 | valdyn | ddfire: what are you using to create a new user? |
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| 19:10.21 | Whisky_ | oh done :D |
| 19:10.34 | ddfire | i am using adduser |
| 19:10.36 | SerajewelKS | Whisky_: =) |
| 19:11.19 | ddfire | i am tring to change the kde menu (like the start menu in windows but much better) |
| 19:11.23 | valdyn | ddfire: adduser is quite verbose, it will even list what it is failing to copy |
| 19:11.32 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: yes, we know what the kde menu is |
| 19:11.36 | Whisky_ | SerajewelKS, :) |
| 19:11.45 | Andy0377 | jelly:i still get unknown host |
| 19:11.48 | ooev | abrotman, oos is just great! |
| 19:11.54 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: most of us even know it's better than the windows start menu |
| 19:11.55 | abrotman | ok |
| 19:12.02 | ddfire | the file to change is ./confgure/menus/application... ??? |
| 19:12.09 | bobbens | anyone having trouble getting thunderbird to work in a UTF-8 environment? |
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| 19:12.23 | SerajewelKS | !anyone |
| 19:12.23 | dpkg_ | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
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| 19:12.33 | jelly | Andy0377: hm. did you put in the correct ip address? Put it as the first name under 127.0.0.1 if you don't have a static ip address. |
| 19:12.43 | valdyn | ddfire: which file exactly is it not copying, what's permissions on that file |
| 19:12.59 | ddfire | valdyn, ir copy the files |
| 19:13.06 | ddfire | but the kde menu dont change |
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| 19:13.23 | Andy0377 | jelly: same |
| 19:13.27 | valdyn | ddfire: so then that has nothing at all to do with /etc/skel or adduser |
| 19:13.30 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: why not modify the global KDE menus instead of making a file for each user |
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| 19:13.57 | ddfire | SerajewelKS, keep talking |
| 19:14.06 | ddfire | SerajewelKS, where i do that? |
| 19:14.07 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: i asked you a question |
| 19:14.13 | SerajewelKS | ddfire: /usr/share/menus iirc |
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| 19:14.23 | SerajewelKS | or /usr/share/menu |
| 19:16.57 | digital__ | kimo sorry, i meant ddfire :) |
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| 19:30.05 | ooev | Eulex, woa... |
| 19:30.05 | Eclipser | heh |
| 19:30.05 | blondie | ism |
| 19:30.05 | Whisky_ | how do i make user whisky the owner of /mnt/windows ? chown whisky /mnt/windows/ doesnt work |
| 19:30.05 | SerajewelKS | ice_1963: look at mozplugger |
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| 19:30.06 | SerajewelKS | ice_1963: and mozilla-mplayre |
| 19:30.06 | demonbane | SerajewelKS: that's what i figured as well. i tried all of the touchscreen modules in 2.6.14 with no luck. that's why i'm trying to just IDENTIFY the hardware so that i can start searching for an appropriate module for it |
| 19:30.06 | SerajewelKS | mplayer* |
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| 19:30.08 | jelly | Andy0377: sorry, there was a netsplit. did you put up those files somewhere in the meantime? |
| 19:30.09 | SerajewelKS | Whisky_: set umode in /etc/fstab |
| 19:30.10 | nostur | hi, i have intel extreme graphics 2, and i installed rpm driver, which i previously converted with alien to deb from suse rpm, i want to set up GL, but, when i did dpkg <packagename> but iam not able to configure it, or i dont know how, because in readme is only configuration for suse, anyone have experience with this card? |
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| 19:32.06 | Tortel | D: |
| 19:32.06 | Tortel | !AHH! |
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| 19:33.41 | thingfish | will someone please think of the children! |
| 19:33.41 | ice_1963 | how about kaffeine? |
| 19:33.41 | Tortel | run awayz! |
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| 19:33.42 | Hawkwind_Lappy | Can anyone tell me how to fix this error when trying to compile xchat-2.6.0 from CVS on debian unstable: http://pastebin.com/459818 |
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| 19:33.44 | SerajewelKS | nostur: why are you using an .rpm on a debian system to begin with? especially for a kernel module? |
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| 19:33.45 | Tortel | just apt-get it |
| 19:33.45 | Tortel | movie time |
| 19:33.45 | Hawkwind_Lappy | Tortel: It says it's already the newest version |
| 19:33.46 | Hawkwind_Lappy | autoconf is already the newest version. |
| 19:33.46 | abrotman | Hawkwind: need a different version of the autotools ? |
| 19:33.47 | abrotman | Hawkwind_Lappy: autoconf --version |
| 19:33.47 | Hawkwind_Lappy | autoconf (GNU Autoconf) 2.59 |
| 19:33.47 | ddfire | SerajewelKS, it dosent work |
| 19:33.50 | demonbane | just to see if i'm wasting my time by poking at that unresponsive mouse device, if a laptop has a ps/2 port on a docking station/replicator, might it show up as an unresponsive device when the replicator isn't connected? |
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| 19:33.50 | demonbane | (unfortunately, i don't have a port replicator for this thing to test with :( ) |
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| 19:33.51 | thingfish | demonbane: sounds reasonable, don't you think? |
| 19:33.51 | abrotman | Hawkwind_Lappy: ask #xchat .. or ask google |
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| 19:33.52 | Hawkwind_Lappy | abrotman: You don't happen to know of a .deb package of xchat-2.6.0 do you ? |
| 19:33.52 | demonbane | thingfish: it does. but i wish it didn't because without it i'm largely out of options. :( |
| 19:33.52 | abrotman | !info xchat sid |
| 19:33.52 | abrotman | gah .. stupid bots |
| 19:33.53 | abrotman | ~info xchat sid |
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| 19:33.55 | A64 | hello. I need some help regarding 'cacti'. I installed the debian version - as it was said in the doc. - with 'apt-get install cacti'. The question is: where are all the files of cacti now ? |
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| 19:33.56 | abrotman | Hawkwind_Lappy: nope ... try apt-get.org or backports.org |
| 19:33.56 | A64 | What's the default install dir for programs and daemons ? |
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| 19:33.57 | Hawkwind_Lappy | abrotman: Thanks. Doing that now |
| 19:33.58 | Washu | Ever have the fglrx driver not work on an AMD64 box? |
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| 19:33.59 | thingfish | Washu: ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 19:33.59 | Washu | I'm running 32bit as 64bit linux is way far from primetime. |
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| 19:34.01 | Eulex | A64, dpkg -L pkgname |
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| 19:34.05 | Eulex | Washu, then that box being amd64 should not affect the ability of the fglrx driver to work |
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| 19:34.05 | Washu | Unfortunetly it's not working the old nvidia card had no issues once setup. |
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| 19:34.06 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 19:34.06 | dpkg_ | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 19:34.07 | Washu | I think it didn't load the amd64-agp gart driver. |
| 19:34.28 | Washu | By doesn't work I mean no 3d which in my dictionary equals does not work. |
| 19:34.50 | Doctor | hmm debian doesn't have lame due to patent issues? |
| 19:34.54 | Eulex | Washu, had you set it to use the internal agpgart or the kernel's |
| 19:34.55 | nostur | SerajewelKS because there is no available debian package |
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| 19:35.06 | Washu | An out right failure to load X would have been better then this one. |
| 19:35.07 | Eulex | Doctor, correct |
| 19:35.08 | SerajewelKS | nostur: you still shouldn't be using an rpm |
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| 19:35.20 | SerajewelKS | nostur: what module are you trying to use |
| 19:35.21 | nostur | SerajewelKS so, tar.gz archive ? |
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| 19:35.41 | nostur | SerajewelKS module? iam trying to install drivers from intel to make GL working |
| 19:35.51 | Eulex | right. don't get any help then. |
| 19:35.58 | SerajewelKS | nostur: that is a module |
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| 19:36.16 | nostur | SerajewelKS: so how i can figure the name or what u want from me |
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| 19:36.29 | Eulex | SerajewelKS, ipw2100/ipw2200? |
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| 19:36.35 | Eulex | umh, sorry SerajewelKS |
| 19:36.44 | Eulex | nostur, ipw2100/ipw2200? |
| 19:36.44 | nostur | saraweljks: Intel® Graphics driver for Linux* (includes AGP GART and DRM kernel modules) |
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| 19:37.04 | nostur | Eulex: how i can know/ |
| 19:37.11 | Pimpi | abrotman: about the dns/htaccess thingy before: yes, you were right. i expected a wildcard entry for the domain, wich obviously isn't present, that was my mistake |
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| 19:37.33 | Washu | Nice it's still broken ok I'm ordering a geforce 6800 off newegg damn woi |
| 19:37.40 | Eulex | nostur, ah. have you tried the i810 X driver? btw, what chipset have you got? |
| 19:37.43 | abrotman | Pimpi: some do that .. but it's a very bad/evil thing .. you shouldn't do it |
| 19:37.44 | Washu | Damn worthless radeon X400 on the board. |
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| 19:37.55 | Eulex | Washu, have you checked your X log? |
| 19:38.54 | xet7 | What is the program that I can use to find partition table from harddisk? |
| 19:38.54 | Pimpi | abrotman: yeah, those webspace providers usually do though |
| 19:38.54 | nostur | Eulex: intel extreme 2 graphics, Intel® 82852/82855 how i can isntall the i810 X driver/ |
| 19:38.54 | xet7 | forgot the name |
| 19:38.54 | Eulex | xet7, fdisk -l |
| 19:38.55 | abrotman | Pimpi: you've been messing with that since then ? |
| 19:38.58 | usn | hi folx |
| 19:39.05 | Eulex | nostur, it comes with X. dunno if it works with intel extreme graphics 2, but you could test |
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| 19:39.18 | xet7 | I mean rescue it, it shows no data |
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| 19:39.28 | Washu | Umm it ignored the request to load glcore |
| 19:39.38 | Pimpi | abrotman: no, was just away, and released my mistake inbetween, and checked now |
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| 19:40.06 | abrotman | Pimpi: oh ok |
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| 19:40.15 | Eulex | Washu, not important. it will load it later |
| 19:40.19 | Eulex | nostur, http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_Extreme_Graphics_2 |
| 19:40.25 | Mai_kinho | puta merda saum tudo em ingles |
| 19:40.27 | Pimpi | abrotman: i hate to give wrong answers, so i think about it if somebody tells me i'm wrong ;) |
| 19:40.30 | nostur | Eulex: how i can load the i810 driver? |
| 19:40.34 | Mai_kinho | tem alguem do Brazil aki |
| 19:40.38 | Eulex | !br |
| 19:40.38 | dpkg_ | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 19:40.38 | Mai_kinho | ????????????????? |
| 19:40.40 | Mai_kinho | ????????? |
| 19:40.48 | Eulex | !drxx nostur |
| 19:40.48 | dpkg_ | nostur: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 19:41.09 | abrotman | Pimpi: well .. it was 2 vs 1 :) |
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| 19:41.24 | bizkit | can anyone suggest me which apache2 package to use? or better to say, which model. how to choose the right one? |
| 19:41.48 | caphuso | bizkit: by running ab a few dozen times? |
| 19:41.49 | Dyvus | hi, i was wondering how they call 'named' in the apt-get... |
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| 19:41.57 | Dyvus | becouse apt-get install named does not work |
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| 19:42.25 | sdakota | hi |
| 19:42.29 | sdakota | what Apache mpm do you recommend for a server that has to serve big websites to much users, and does not pull down performance for the rest of the server? |
| 19:42.37 | Eulex | !tell Dyvus about search |
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| 19:42.54 | Dyvus | Eulex, i already searched on the debian site |
| 19:42.59 | ooev | Dyvus: maybe it's bind9? |
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| 19:43.01 | bbrazil | Dyvus: bind |
| 19:43.04 | Eulex | dpkg's b0rked. |
| 19:43.10 | abrotman | sdakota: ask #apache |
| 19:43.10 | bizkit | caphuso: running ab? i'm not native english, so explain.. i think this was an ironic answer :) |
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| 19:43.27 | Washu | ok It seems the kernel and xorg versions do not match. |
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| 19:43.36 | caphuso | ab (8) - Apache HTTP server benchmarking tool |
| 19:44.00 | Mai_kinho | vlew |
| 19:44.01 | Mai_kinho | usaususauh |
| 19:44.03 | Washu | idiots and their two part driver why not a nice uni driver like nvidia. |
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| 19:44.05 | bizkit | caphuso: uh.. heh. thanks |
| 19:44.06 | ForrestF | um |
| 19:44.11 | ForrestF | tar: Backup: time stamp 2005-12-11 14:37:56 is 10547 s in the future. |
| 19:44.20 | ForrestF | ??!! |
| 19:44.23 | xet7 | I have hard disk with corrupted partition table, what program searches for partitions? |
| 19:44.36 | ooev | ForrestF: not a problem. maybe timezone issue. |
| 19:44.37 | ForrestF | how do i fix this |
| 19:44.48 | ForrestF | im in CST server is GMT |
| 19:44.51 | Doctor | ForrestF, what did you untar? that time is about 5mins ago probably |
| 19:44.52 | bbrazil | xet7: gpart |
| 19:44.56 | xet7 | ok |
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| 19:45.00 | Eulex | Washu, I'd say pebkac. you need to compile the driver for your current kernel. btw, nvidia's kernel is two-part too |
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| 19:45.15 | ForrestF | a .tar.gz |
| 19:45.23 | Doctor | did you make it? |
| 19:45.30 | Washu | Never had kernel hell issues with nvidia cards. |
| 19:45.31 | ooev | Doctor: it's like ~3hour |
| 19:45.40 | ForrestF | can i oveerride it? |
| 19:45.58 | Eulex | ooev, timezone differences |
| 19:46.06 | Doctor | ForrestF, to have timestamps when you're untarring it instead of whats in the tar? |
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| 19:46.32 | ooev | Eulex, usually i just ignore it. |
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| 19:47.02 | ForrestF | nvm |
| 19:47.05 | Washu | Well I'm removing everything getting the kernelheaders and the latest driver. |
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| 19:47.32 | DaFonz | hi guys, I wish to add users to my system who will only be using their accounts to send/receive e-mail via IMAP/POP3 and will not login to the shell. |
| 19:47.39 | Andy0377 | jelly: still the same |
| 19:47.58 | snowgeese | hey wahts up \ |
| 19:47.59 | Washu | if the drivers mismatched then X should have quit on an error and showed the error. |
| 19:48.03 | snowgeese | can i help someone? |
| 19:48.07 | Early | Hello here i search one prog same as msn who work with webcam and linphone for kernel 2.6.12 someone can help me please !! |
| 19:48.07 | Eulex | ooev, you can't ignore timezone differences in an international channel |
| 19:48.11 | bbrazil | Dyvus: denygroup in sshd_config |
| 19:48.18 | bbrazil | DaFonz: ^ |
| 19:48.30 | Eulex | Washu, no, as 2d works very well even when the kernel module and the X driver doesn't match. |
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| 19:48.40 | DaFonz | What's the best way to add these users? I will give them adduser --shell /bin/false but should I add all of them to the group "users" or create a new one, or give everyone their own group (default) ? |
| 19:48.50 | Washu | Well thats kinda worthless |
| 19:49.09 | ooev | Eulex, i mean when i met those prompt upgrading package. |
| 19:49.18 | bbrazil | DaFonz: what do all your other users do? |
| 19:49.19 | snowgeese | mb can |
| 19:49.37 | jelly | Andy0377: sorry, did you paste those files somewhere? |
| 19:49.47 | Andy0377 | which files? |
| 19:49.53 | jelly | Andy0377: hm. please paste your /etc/hosts, /etc/host.conf, /etc/nsswitch.conf, and the output of strace hostname -d for good measure. ;-) |
| 19:50.17 | Eulex | Washu, it's nice to be able to fix such mismatching problems in X and don't have to be caught in a console with no X, eh? |
| 19:50.33 | DaFonz | bbrazil: there are just 2 users (me included) who will get shell access, but all other users only need a "mailbox" |
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| 19:50.41 | Early | Hello here i search one prog same as msn who work with webcam and linphone for kernel 2.6.12 someone can help me please !! |
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| 19:51.00 | Washu | Yah but I'm not scared off by the console I'd rather have the error be plainly visable if you only need 2d there is vesa. |
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| 19:51.40 | ooev | Early, gnome-meeting? |
| 19:51.53 | Early | who support ms,! |
| 19:51.54 | Early | :p |
| 19:52.04 | bbrazil | DaFonz: in that case add them however you want and use the allowusers option |
| 19:52.24 | DaFonz | what's the allowusers option? |
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| 19:52.46 | bbrazil | DaFonz: man sshd_config |
| 19:53.14 | Andy0377 | jelly: http://pastebin.com/459864 |
| 19:53.18 | bbrazil | DaFonz: you could also get fancy with pam_wheel.so |
| 19:53.20 | bayram | ich suche webcam treiber für logitech ich benutze ubuntu bitte helfen |
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| 19:53.34 | Eulex | !de |
| 19:53.34 | dpkg_ | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 19:53.36 | Washu | There removed debian's fglrx driver installed the lernel headers now all I need is some inscents to burn and a chicken to sacrafice. |
| 19:53.37 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 19:53.37 | dpkg_ | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
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| 19:53.56 | Eulex | Washu, well, but I don't think it'd be plainly visible if it would cause X to abort. At least when you have problems with your input devices or their configuration, you'll get a very non-descript error in the console. And then you'll have to check the log for the real error |
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| 19:54.52 | Washu | Yah but the way it looks my PVR box will not be a single board solution. |
| 19:55.05 | Washu | later |
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| 19:55.58 | mtupper | hey dudez, i know this is probably simple as pie, but I need help understanding: "Copy class.phpmailer.php into your php.ini include_path." I have the file class.phpmailer.php in a directory and dont know 100% what to put in the php.ini |
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| 19:56.32 | abrotman | mtupper: ask #php |
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| 19:57.00 | mtupper | abrotman, ahh, good point. |
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| 19:58.50 | harleyg | hi, i got the kde3.5 rc1, and i added it to sources.list blah blah, anywho after i upgrade/dist-upgrade i rebooted, and it seems im returned back to 3.4.3 :) any ideas? |
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| 19:59.35 | Eulex | harleyg, and the kde 3.5 repo is pinned higher than your debian repo? |
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| 19:59.43 | harleyg | yes |
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| 20:00.16 | Eulex | harleyg, have you checked with apt-policy on the affected packages? |
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| 20:00.33 | harleyg | nope |
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| 20:00.37 | harleyg | i just followed the thing |
| 20:00.42 | harleyg | and i went back into 3.4.3 |
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| 20:02.01 | Andy0377 | jelly: http://pastebin.com/459864 |
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| 20:02.32 | harleyg | any ideas eulex? |
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| 20:02.58 | Eulex | harleyg, sorry, apt-cache policy kde? |
| 20:03.39 | foxmajik | Can I ask a question about SSH or is that a different channel? |
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| 20:03.56 | harleyg | http://pastebin.com/459881 |
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| 20:04.47 | Raag | offtopic note: fiNGer == onjoin spam |
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| 20:05.18 | Ronin | Raag: only one? heh thats a slow day for here |
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| 20:05.29 | ke6isf | Raag: What's the spam message? |
| 20:05.44 | Raag | ke6isf: [url] free porno videos |
| 20:05.53 | bizkit | !tell foxmajik about ask |
| 20:05.54 | ke6isf | Raag: Notify ops. |
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| 20:06.55 | Eulex | harleyg, that shows that there's no non-debian kde package apt-able on your system |
| 20:07.02 | elirips | hello. what programm can extract .ace-file? |
| 20:07.07 | foxmajik | I think I'll read the channel guidlines. |
| 20:07.08 | harleyg | so /etc/apt/preferences is wrong? |
| 20:07.09 | ke6isf | Raag: Also, ask dpkg about spambots. |
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| 20:07.31 | streuner | elirips: unace |
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| 20:07.35 | foxmajik | unace |
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| 20:07.39 | harleyg | i see, when i added the kde3.5 thing in preferences i didnt do a space |
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| 20:07.45 | elirips | streuner: thanks. |
| 20:07.47 | harleyg | so yeh i got it now :) |
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| 20:08.17 | harleyg | brb |
| 20:08.21 | bizkit | foxmajik: whats your problem? |
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| 20:09.58 | Hawkwind_Lappy | Is there a how-to on getting java to work in firefox in sid ? |
| 20:10.32 | abrotman | !tell Hawkwind_Lappy about install java |
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| 20:11.28 | Hawkwind_Lappy | abrotman: Awesome. One day I'll figure out all these commands for dpkg_ and can get the info myself :) |
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| 20:12.01 | nullvoid | hi all |
| 20:12.14 | jpm | alguem fala portugues pra me ajudar?? kero criar um diskete para iniciar instalaçao |
| 20:12.15 | nullvoid | who managed to get vsftpd running on sarge? |
| 20:12.25 | bizkit | nullvoid: many |
| 20:12.38 | Eulex | Hawkwind_Lappy, try out listkeys. talk to dpkg in private and say listkeys keyword, and he will list any facts he has that has something to do with the keyword you gave him |
| 20:12.42 | Eulex | !br |
| 20:12.42 | dpkg_ | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 20:12.54 | nullvoid | bizkit: I can with sid |
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| 20:13.26 | bizkit | nullvoid: .. and? where's the problem on sarge? works fine for me |
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| 20:13.37 | Hawkwind_Lappy | Eulex: Awesome. Thanks for that very helpful info |
| 20:13.39 | remedy | does anyone have an un-official nvidia .deb? |
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| 20:14.16 | nullvoid | bizkit: when i issue /etc/init.d/vsftpd start <--- it won't start |
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| 20:14.30 | blindsight | anyone want to help me get zsnes recognizing my gamepad on unstable? Gamepad responds to jscalibrator |
| 20:14.34 | nullvoid | bizkit: eventhough I use the default config file |
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| 20:14.45 | Eulex | remedy, you should compile it yourself, as the kernel module needs to be built against *your* kernel |
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| 20:15.03 | nullvoid | bizkit: If I just issue vsftpd, I got 500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket |
| 20:15.13 | remedy | Eulex: yea, having strange problems compiling the module, ppl in #nvidia dont seem to be able to help |
| 20:15.21 | bizkit | nullvoid: you should check if vsftpd is started via inetd/xinetd. if standalone, LISTEN=yes has to be in the config file |
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| 20:15.28 | remedy | Eulex: you have experience with it? |
| 20:15.37 | bizkit | nullvoid: perhaps the port is already bound? |
| 20:15.46 | Eulex | remedy, no, I don't own any nvidia card |
| 20:16.07 | remedy | ok |
| 20:16.13 | bizkit | nullvoid: perhaps you're starting vsftpd as a non-root user trying to bind a privileged port? (<1024) |
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| 20:16.35 | nullvoid | bizkit: I am starting it as root |
| 20:17.06 | foxmajik | "/msg dpkg guidelines" doesn't seem to do anything. |
| 20:17.44 | bizkit | perhaps dpkg has a high load? doesn't answer me, too |
| 20:17.48 | bizkit | :/ |
| 20:17.58 | nullvoid | bizkit: when I remark the listen=YES and issue /etc/init.d/vsftpd start <---- nothing happen, I got back the prompt |
| 20:18.00 | bucky | doesn't vsftpd run from inetd ? |
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| 20:18.23 | bizkit | bucky: it can. the new versions suggest running it as a standalone |
| 20:18.27 | Eulex | foxmajik, seems like dpkg's b0rked atm |
| 20:18.32 | bucky | how does it install? |
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| 20:18.50 | nullvoid | bizkit: so how is my case? |
| 20:18.56 | bbrazil | foxmajik: dpkg_ |
| 20:18.59 | bucky | i forget.. i thought vsftpd inserted a line in inetd.conf |
| 20:19.04 | nullvoid | I tried both standalone or using init.d not working |
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| 20:19.36 | nullvoid | bucky: read the /etc/vsftpd.conf <---- uncomment the listen=YES |
| 20:19.42 | bucky | i like running mine with xinetd |
| 20:19.44 | nullvoid | arghhhhh |
| 20:19.52 | nullvoid | yes mee to |
| 20:20.02 | bizkit | nullvoid: forget the init script and try it manually. use the verbose flags / debug output to see more on this error. try to netcat localhost ftp if there's already something running, perhaps there's really an entry in inetd/xinetd which hast bound your ftp port |
| 20:20.06 | nullvoid | but I don't know why it won't run on mine |
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| 20:20.21 | nullvoid | how to see verbose? |
| 20:20.34 | bizkit | see man vsftpd |
| 20:20.53 | nullvoid | seen |
| 20:21.03 | bucky | you can't run as a daemon and run from inetd at the same time.. that sounds like the problem - have you looked in inetd.conf ? |
| 20:21.22 | bizkit | nullvoid: netcat localhost ftp |
| 20:22.17 | nullvoid | ? |
| 20:22.55 | nullvoid | bizkit: I got no result |
| 20:23.30 | bizkit | nullvoid: connection refused? |
| 20:24.20 | nullvoid | none |
| 20:24.29 | nullvoid | consu:/etc# netcat localhost ftp |
| 20:24.30 | nullvoid | consu:/etc# |
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| 20:24.43 | bizkit | are you using inetd/xinetd? |
| 20:25.12 | nullvoid | bizkit: /etc/init.d |
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| 20:25.39 | bizkit | try 'update-inetd --disable ftp' and '/etc/init.d/inetd restart' and then 'nc localhost ftp' |
| 20:26.11 | bizkit | your ftp port is already bound, your target is to get an connection refused on nc localhost ftp |
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| 20:26.48 | nullvoid | localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1] 21 (ftp) : Connection refused |
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| 20:26.57 | foxmajik | I don't think I'm going to get any help here. |
| 20:27.00 | foxmajik | I'll try the mailing list. |
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| 20:27.11 | bizkit | this sounds good nullvoid, try to start vsftpd standalone now |
| 20:27.30 | bizkit | did foxmajik ever ask a question? |
| 20:27.31 | nullvoid | bizkit: how |
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| 20:27.38 | nullvoid | just vsftpd? |
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| 20:27.47 | bizkit | nullvoid: start the init script |
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| 20:27.54 | bobbens | ALSA uses the wrong sound card on boot up, where can i find the config file that tells debian what sound modules to load so i can remove the old one? /etc/modprobe.d/sound doesnt have the old one yes it always seems to load on boot time. |
| 20:27.58 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
| 20:27.58 | dpkg_ | what's up |
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| 20:30.11 | abrotman | yay bots! |
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| 20:30.40 | nullvoid | yeap |
| 20:30.49 | nullvoid | bizkit: solved, it's working now |
| 20:31.19 | nullvoid | bizkit: why was it |
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| 20:31.49 | bizkit | nullvoid: as i said earlier.. your ftp port was already bound by another program |
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| 20:32.20 | loxley_ | bobbens: run alsaconf |
| 20:32.27 | nullvoid | oic |
| 20:32.37 | bobbens | loxley_: yes that works, but i dont want to run it every boot up |
| 20:33.18 | bobbens | loxley_: i have to prevent the snd-intel8x0 from mloading |
| 20:33.23 | blindsight | okay I have narrowed down issue, zsnes detects joystick when I'm root but not when I'm regular user how do I fix this? |
| 20:33.30 | dvs | bobbens: Put the snd_ modules listed in lsmod into your /etc/modules file |
| 20:33.44 | answerguy | I've written a little shell script (which I call "apt-trickle" which uses apt-get --print-uris | while read url x; ... wget --limit-rate=... to "trickle" the latest package upgrade .deb files into /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 20:33.49 | Eulex | bobbens, blacklist it. also, alsconf should make the right modules load at boot |
| 20:34.39 | answerguy | My problem is that I don't know how/where to do the index/update files. |
| 20:34.56 | bobbens | Eulex: alsaconf loads the right modules but also loads snd_intel8x0 for some reason and it takes preference, how would i blacklist it? |
| 20:35.05 | Eulex | !blacklist |
| 20:35.05 | dpkg_ | extra, extra, read all about it, blacklist is Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 20:35.41 | abrotman | answerguy: did you try just using trickle ? |
| 20:35.41 | answerguy | I know how to put the .deb files into the correct directory (using apt-get dist-upgrade) but how do I limit the download rate of the apt-get update .gz files? |
| 20:35.43 | bobbens | Eulex: but wouldnt it be better to find where it loads from and disable it from there? |
| 20:35.47 | abrotman | !info trickle sarge |
| 20:35.55 | abrotman | bah |
| 20:36.05 | answerguy | No. Didn't know a package existed for that. |
| 20:36.09 | abrotman | http://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?searchon=names&version=all&exact=1&keywords=trickle |
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| 20:38.11 | Eulex | bobbens, it's probably discover/hotplug or udev that is loading it. so blacklist it at the source |
| 20:38.32 | answerguy | Thanks, abrotman ... I'll take a look at that. |
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| 20:39.59 | ribnitz | evening.. |
| 20:40.05 | abrotman | ribnitz! |
| 20:40.12 | Pedrinhu19 | ops |
| 20:40.14 | ribnitz | abrotman! |
| 20:40.33 | Pedrinhu19 | como eu faço pra entra no serve da brasnet |
| 20:40.41 | abrotman | !br |
| 20:40.41 | dpkg_ | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 20:40.56 | Pedrinhu19 | certo |
| 20:41.27 | ribnitz | any idea whether hpjis is any good for older hp printers that do postscript? |
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| 20:41.55 | answerguy | Well, I'm running trickle -d 5 apt-get -f dist-upgrade now and I don't see my IRC lag going up. That's a good sign |
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| 20:42.13 | abrotman | answerguy: that's the idea :) |
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| 20:45.26 | Eulex | answerguy, you could try wondershaper if you experience network lag... |
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| 20:45.59 | abrotman | !kill the bots |
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| 20:47.03 | Tortel | !blacklist |
| 20:47.03 | dpkg_ | blacklist is probably Sarge installs the Hotplug and Discover packages to help with hardware module loading - which can often load undesirable modules. Add 'skip foo' to /etc/discover.conf and 'foo' to /etc/hotplug/blacklist to prevent them from loading. Don't forget to remove it from /etc/modules (if present). in etch and sid, modules should be blacklisted in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist |
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| 20:47.51 | Tortel | grr |
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| 20:48.09 | Tortel | alsa still doesnt work with the right soundcard after blacklisting it |
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| 20:50.02 | Tortel | !alsa |
| 20:50.03 | dpkg_ | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
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| 20:50.08 | Tortel | oh |
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| 20:52.02 | Hawkwind_Lappy | Ughhhh, fiNGer is a damn porn spam bot |
| 20:52.19 | nostur | hi, i re-set uped my xfree86, with cmd someone provided me, but when rebooted, i got mesage: No screens found, so i have to configure again, can anyone tell me cmd to do it? |
| 20:52.23 | dvs | Hawkwind_Lappy: and it's messaging you? |
| 20:52.27 | Tortel | and dpkg isnt responding to priv messages |
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| 20:52.40 | Hawkwind_Lappy | dvs: It did when I joined, I've reported it to staff |
| 20:52.44 | dvs | Tortel: I think it's dpkg_ today |
| 20:52.53 | dvs | dpkg_: Hi |
| 20:52.54 | RichiH_ | hmm |
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| 20:53.01 | Tortel | nostur: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:53.06 | RichiH_ | those were mant to kline ;) |
| 20:53.08 | Tortel | !test |
| 20:53.08 | dpkg_ | Yes, tortel, you're still online. |
| 20:53.17 | dvs | no fair! |
| 20:53.19 | Tortel | yep, I have the right name.... |
| 20:53.35 | nostur | Tortel: thx |
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| 20:55.31 | abrotman | Tortel: that only works if he's on sarge |
| 20:55.36 | gberardi | I recently apt-get removed firefox then installed it again after moving the .mozilla/firefox directory out of the way. It recreated the directory, but I can't seem to install Extensions: Extension System Warning: Failed to set up default extensions files probably because you do not have write privileges to this location. |
| 20:55.41 | abrotman | and assumning he hasn't edited the file himself |
| 20:55.42 | gberardi | Any thoughts as to why? |
| 20:56.19 | gberardi | I tried running it as root, and it stopped giving the warning, but it still doesn't install extensions |
| 20:56.32 | Tortel | psh, now it tells me that alsa starts muted... |
| 20:56.56 | Tortel | oh, before I go, I noticed the GRUB no longer has windows on it... |
| 20:56.56 | Tortel | :( |
| 20:57.15 | Tortel | How do I add it back? |
| 20:57.19 | SerajewelKS | gberardi: see if you have ~/.firefox |
| 20:57.25 | SerajewelKS | gberardi: if so, move that out of the way too |
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| 20:58.45 | gberardi | SerajewelKS: Nope |
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| 20:59.03 | nostur | Tortel: ok, i tried, but it prints me same message: Skipping :/usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcor.a:m_debug_vertex.o: No symbols found , this is only one from messages it prints |
| 20:59.03 | SerajewelKS | gberardi: don't know what to say then =/ |
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| 21:00.00 | gberardi | Yeah, I am at a loss. Basically I thought my network connection was getting really slow, but then I found that it was only when I used Firefox on this system. Any other network application or another machine using Firefox would work as quickly as I expected it to be |
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| 21:00.12 | remedy | hey, since upgrading to etch.. i can no longer switch to console using ctrl+alt+fx in gnome, anyone know how i can fix this? |
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| 21:00.41 | gberardi | So I finally got around to removing Firefox, thinking that removing files it used I would get rid of whatever culprit was making it slow |
| 21:00.47 | nostur | can anyone help me?>>i tried recondiguirn, but it prints me same message: Skipping :/usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcor.a:m_debug_vertex.o: No symbols found , this is only one from messages it prints |
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| 21:01.19 | nostur | Tortel: ok, i tried, but it prints me same message: Skipping :/usr/lib/modules/extensions/libGLcor.a:m_debug_vertex.o: No symbols found , this is only one from messages it prints |
| 21:01.19 | Tortel | gAH |
| 21:01.25 | TheSin | anyone know the status of zaptel and/or module-assistant ? |
| 21:01.39 | Tortel | nostur: ask abrotman |
| 21:01.45 | nostur | abrotman, u here? |
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| 21:02.12 | TheSin | I have an smp kernel and it installs modules into /lib/modules/vesion, instead of /lib/modules/version-revision-build |
| 21:02.51 | abrotman | what ?! |
| 21:02.59 | nostur | look up, please |
| 21:03.00 | TheSin | like this |
| 21:03.02 | TheSin | it's building |
| 21:03.03 | TheSin | /lib/modules/2.6.14/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 21:03.06 | TheSin | but it should be |
| 21:03.21 | TheSin | /lib/modules/2.6.14-2-686-smp/misc/zaptel.ko |
| 21:03.22 | clockskew | Hi I have a question my default gateway is set to a wrong ip so i chage it with >route add gw etc. but after reboot route is back to old gateway adress where is this done? |
| 21:03.26 | SerajewelKS | !tell TheSin about enter |
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| 21:03.33 | TheSin | so obviously it won't find it at boot |
| 21:03.39 | abrotman | nostur: what driver are you using ? |
| 21:03.43 | SerajewelKS | dpkg, dpkg, where art thou, dpkg |
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| 21:03.47 | clockskew | Ive been grepping like mad in etc but cannot find the old ip |
| 21:03.49 | LinuxNIT-laptop | any one know of a live os which lets you right to the cd? |
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| 21:03.54 | nostur | abrotmanL i810 i have intel extreme graphics 2 855 |
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| 21:04.00 | js_ | clockskew: /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:04.11 | abrotman | nostur: look for EE lines in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log |
| 21:04.16 | paulswm | I can't bear to watch, see youse abrotman :P |
| 21:04.18 | clockskew | js_ not there i use dhcp |
| 21:04.20 | nostur | abrotman: ok |
| 21:04.20 | abrotman | or in .xsession-errors |
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| 21:04.35 | Tortel | !tess me if your alive |
| 21:04.35 | js_ | clockskew: you receive the gateway via dhcp |
| 21:04.37 | Tortel | oos |
| 21:04.42 | Tortel | !tell me if your alive |
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| 21:04.51 | Tortel | aartently not |
| 21:04.58 | abrotman | !alive |
| 21:05.00 | Tortel | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:05.03 | Eulex | !your |
| 21:05.03 | dpkg_ | your is, like, the possessive of you, and is not "you're", which means "you are" |
| 21:05.10 | clockskew | js: could be i'll check tanx |
| 21:05.15 | Tortel | between o and [ |
| 21:05.18 | Tortel | :| |
| 21:05.34 | Tortel | p |
| 21:05.35 | Tortel | that |
| 21:05.47 | Tortel | damnit, always happens at boot... |
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| 21:05.55 | Tortel | !test |
| 21:05.55 | dpkg_ | No, tortel, you're not online any more. |
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| 21:06.01 | TheSin | so no one knows about this, only about enter? |
| 21:06.02 | Tortel | damnit |
| 21:06.16 | bucky | !moron Tortel |
| 21:06.17 | dpkg_ | Tortel: You are moron #85 |
| 21:06.27 | Tortel | !moron dkpg_ |
| 21:06.27 | dpkg_ | dkpg_: You are moron #14 |
| 21:06.48 | abrotman | Tortel: stop fucking with the damned bot |
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| 21:07.02 | clockskew | js: thanx now i understand why grepping for the ip in /etc didn't help :) |
| 21:07.04 | abrotman | Tortel: or go to #debian-bots and do it |
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| 21:07.32 | Tortel | it wont respond to a /msg |
| 21:07.40 | js_ | clockskew: yeah, network information has to be set on each boot.. and it can be done either manually or automatically via dhcp |
| 21:07.42 | abrotman | no shit .. the bot is fucked up .. go to #debian-bots |
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| 21:08.54 | nostur | abrotman: (II) Loading extension mit-screen-saver (EE) I810(0) No valid modes (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration |
| 21:09.06 | abrotman | nostur: what resolution did you pick ? |
| 21:09.19 | nostur | abrotman: 1024x768 79Mhz |
| 21:09.32 | nostur | *70 Mhz |
| 21:09.44 | Tortel | its hz for refresh |
| 21:09.50 | jimr | driver search.... anyone have a compiled driver for 3com 3c59x on kernel 2.4...? Source code is 3c59x.c by Donald Becker but I can't get it to compile locally |
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| 21:10.13 | abrotman | jimr: why are you compiling it ? |
| 21:10.54 | beardy | jimr: It's available as a module in the kernel-image-2.4, just load it. |
| 21:11.19 | abrotman | nostur: try another .. |
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| 21:11.25 | odla | i have a gdesklet error...http://pastebin.com/459797...could someone help me...i am running sarge |
| 21:11.34 | jimr | beardy: where? |
| 21:11.49 | abrotman | modconf |
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| 21:12.13 | aimtrainer | hi, I installed quake3 and the sound wouldn't work. Now I use aRts (artsdsp -m quake3) but the sound is delayed. Somewhere I read configuring arts might help, but how? There are hardly any options in the control center. Found out there is a tool artsbuilder but I cant install it as it would delete like half of my installed packages. SO does anyone have an ide ... please :) |
| 21:12.31 | abrotman | ask #kde or #debian-kde |
| 21:12.39 | aimtrainer | k |
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| 21:13.42 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: arts is severely broken when it comes to audio sync |
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| 21:13.52 | incipiens | hi |
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| 21:13.59 | dvs | jimr: modprobe 3c90x |
| 21:14.13 | dvs | oops! 3c59x |
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| 21:14.29 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: try aoss quake3 |
| 21:14.40 | aimtrainer | aoss? |
| 21:14.52 | aimtrainer | you mean just type it like that in the console? |
| 21:14.54 | remedy | does anyone here use the nvidia modules in etch? |
| 21:14.56 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: like artsdsp, but it sends the data to alsa instead of arts |
| 21:15.00 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: right |
| 21:15.08 | aimtrainer | ok thx SerajewelKS |
| 21:15.11 | SerajewelKS | remedy: yes, i do. do you have a question, or are you taking a poll? |
| 21:15.22 | aimtrainer | ^^ |
| 21:15.39 | jimr | modprobe 3c95x results in Can't locate module 3c95x - actually I tried that about 3 hours ago ;-) |
| 21:15.58 | abrotman | modconf ? |
| 21:16.04 | abrotman | jimr: uname -a .. show us |
| 21:16.07 | remedy | SerajewelKS: can you check out http://eskozoo.com/~remedy/nv.txt ..im getting problems compiling it with 2.4.32 src headers, if you have any input/ideas, would be appreciated |
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| 21:16.43 | abrotman | !es |
| 21:16.43 | dpkg_ | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 21:16.43 | dvs | jimr: 3c59x |
| 21:16.54 | aimtrainer | SerajewelKS aimtrainer@1[~]$ aoss quake3 |
| 21:16.54 | aimtrainer | bash: aoss: command not found |
| 21:17.04 | abrotman | install it ? |
| 21:17.10 | abrotman | !tell aimtrainer about search |
| 21:17.16 | abrotman | !search |
| 21:17.17 | dpkg_ | i heard search is try 'apt-cache search <regex>', if you want to know what package owns a file use dpkg -S /bin/foo. To find a package based on what files it includes use 'apt-get install apt-file;apt-file update;apt-file search foo'. Use http://packages.debian.org if you're not on a debian system. /msg <bot> find <thing> if you're already here. /msg <bot> listkeys <thing> to find factoids containing <thing>, or apt-cache search <search terms> |
| 21:17.19 | abrotman | damn bots |
| 21:17.30 | Durin | jimr: its 3c59x not 3x95x |
| 21:17.39 | aimtrainer | yea... but I wanted to make sure first |
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| 21:18.24 | SerajewelKS | remedy: this is using module-assistant? |
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| 21:18.26 | chino2 | does anyone have any problems with ssh connections going down after a certain time of inactivity ? |
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| 21:18.28 | jimr | right 3c59x; it was tooooo simple. I was doing it the hard way. modconf found it and apparently installed it - although I haven't tried it yet |
| 21:18.37 | abrotman | chino2: is there a firewall in between ? |
| 21:18.39 | aimtrainer | cannot find aoos via synaptic ;( |
| 21:18.44 | dvs | jimr: ifconfig |
| 21:18.48 | aimtrainer | ehm aoss |
| 21:18.53 | abrotman | aimtrainer: go to packages.debian.org ... look for the file 'aoss' |
| 21:18.55 | chino2 | iptables |
| 21:19.00 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: apt-get install alsa-oss |
| 21:19.03 | aimtrainer | ok thanks abauer |
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| 21:19.10 | aimtrainer | err abrotman |
| 21:19.19 | answerguy | chino2: it's likely that you have a NAT (IP Masquerading router) between you and your ssh endpoint |
| 21:19.20 | abrotman | aimtrainer: or install apt-file |
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| 21:19.29 | abrotman | NAT doesn't matter |
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| 21:19.41 | abrotman | @tell odine about away |
| 21:19.43 | answerguy | Try reading about TCP keepalive settings (sysctl or in ssh itself) |
| 21:19.50 | JRtheGoob | I have a gigabyte k8n-nforce4 mobo. it has Sata and SATAII. According the users manual it has nvidia and silicon images sata/sataII controllers.. does that mean that the silicon images connects to the nforce4 chipset? more importantly which sata drivers should i compile into the kernel if i am rebuilding |
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| 21:19.56 | chino2 | and what would that do ? |
| 21:20.13 | odla | tarzeau: bubbros? |
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| 21:20.23 | SimonRaven | ravenbird: test2 |
| 21:20.24 | ravenbird | Yes I'm online |
| 21:20.24 | dvs | JRtheGoob: probably a Silicon Image SATA driver |
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| 21:20.33 | JRtheGoob | dvs, can it hurt to have both? |
| 21:20.39 | SerajewelKS | JRtheGoob: wtf is a gigabyte motherboard |
| 21:20.41 | JRtheGoob | dvs, my kernel isnt booting and im trying to figure out why |
| 21:20.42 | remedy | SerajewelKS: this is just sh NVIDIAxxxxx.run.. latest from their site, i got the error from /var/log/nvidia-installer.log |
| 21:20.51 | dave | hi, i just installed debian i got the error i get an error it says i need application/x-pn-imagemap? when i try to play a file ? |
| 21:20.52 | JRtheGoob | a gigabyte is a manufacturer |
| 21:20.52 | SerajewelKS | remedy: do not use the nvidia installer |
| 21:20.57 | answerguy | A TCP "keepalive" is an empty packet (headers with a NUL character as the payload?) which is periodically sent to keep a TCP connection "alive" |
| 21:20.58 | SerajewelKS | JRtheGoob: ah |
| 21:21.07 | SerajewelKS | @nvidia one-liner |
| 21:21.07 | ravenbird | apt-get install kernel-headers-$(uname -r) build-essential module-assistant && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-kernel-common nvidia-kernel-source && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install -t unstable nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && modprobe nvidia && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib, non-free, sid sources all needed. see <quick ... |
| 21:21.11 | SerajewelKS | remedy: ^^^ |
| 21:21.17 | dvs | JRtheGoob: if you are booting from the SATA drive, then it's either the controller code or the filesystem is compiled as a module or not at all |
| 21:21.33 | remedy | SerajewelKS: how do i build the interface |
| 21:21.36 | JRtheGoob | dvs, ive got all those compiled into the kernel |
| 21:21.38 | chino2 | answerguy so your saying that the keep alive packets are not passing through ? |
| 21:21.38 | remedy | oh ok |
| 21:21.52 | answerguy | A NAT router keeps a table of active TCP sessions (for doing it's address/port translations) --- it times those out when there's not activity on a connection for some length of time |
| 21:21.57 | JRtheGoob | Raven, is that directed towards me |
| 21:22.00 | dvs | JRtheGoob: What error message are you getting? |
| 21:22.13 | dave | oops, copy paste error there, hi, i just installed realplayer in debian and i got the error says i need application/x-pn-imagemap? when i try to play a file ? |
| 21:22.16 | chino2 | answerguy but the keep alives should be allowing it right ? |
| 21:22.16 | jimr | yeah, the nic works now - thanks again maybe I'll get the hang of this Debian thing in a few more days... |
| 21:22.22 | answerguy | The details are specific to each router (and the same things can happen for any stateful firewalls etc. |
| 21:22.24 | ruied | Hi! What do I need to so, so I can make psql queries to my postgresql server? I want to make queries in apache... do I need to configure something in apache, or shal I just install php? |
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| 21:22.39 | JRtheGoob | dvs, it just hangs after trying to load the disk |
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| 21:22.50 | JRtheGoob | dvs, it hangs on loading ata5 |
| 21:22.53 | SerajewelKS | JRtheGoob: the quote from ravenbird was for remedy btw |
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| 21:22.56 | answerguy | Yes, keepalive packets count as "activity" for the TCP session even though they don't do anything "in band" (to the remote shell prompt or whatever) |
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| 21:23.10 | chino2 | answerguy why are they not being sent ? |
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| 21:23.20 | PerfDave | ruied: Uhm, psql is a command-line client, it doesn't have anything to do with apache. If you want to write PHP scripts to talk to Postgres, use PHP's Postgres functions; if you want to use Perl, use DBI and the Pg driver. |
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| 21:23.27 | chino2 | is that not part of the ssh protocol ? |
| 21:23.38 | aimtrainer | abrotman sorry to bug you again, but I just can't find a package aoss -just alsa-oss |
| 21:23.47 | abrotman | no shit .. maybe that's it? |
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| 21:23.57 | JRtheGoob | SerajewelKS, will that get my geforce card working in x11 |
| 21:23.59 | aimtrainer | yea that is why I asked |
| 21:24.04 | SerajewelKS | aimtrainer: i told you to install alsa-oss a while back |
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| 21:24.05 | abrotman | ruied: php4-pgsql |
| 21:24.16 | SerajewelKS | JRtheGoob: actually, yeah it probably will |
| 21:24.17 | abrotman | aimtrainer: maybe try it ? |
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| 21:24.40 | JRtheGoob | SerajewelKS, does that downloaded the nvidia drivers |
| 21:24.40 | SerajewelKS | chino2: if you want to figure out exactly what's going wrong, fire up a packet sniffer and wait for the bugger to timeout |
| 21:24.41 | aimtrainer | I'm sorry didn't see it |
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| 21:24.48 | ruied | abrotman: just that? what about apache? do I need to configure it? |
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| 21:24.49 | SerajewelKS | JRtheGoob: yes |
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| 21:25.04 | JRtheGoob | SerajewelKS, well id still like to get this new kernel working |
| 21:25.06 | answerguy | chino2: they probably are being sent, but possibly not often enough for your particular routers/firewalls. |
| 21:25.14 | dave | anyone know how to get realplayer working? |
| 21:25.16 | answerguy | Search Google on "ssh keepalive" |
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| 21:25.21 | abrotman | ruied: hopefully the package will take care of it .. i'm guessing you want PHP to be able to query a PostgreSQL database ? |
| 21:25.39 | SerajewelKS | dave: apt-get install realplayer? |
| 21:25.39 | chino2 | so is it a ssh problem or the os"s tcp ip stack ? |
| 21:25.42 | ruied | yes, that is it |
| 21:25.57 | JRtheGoob | also i cant figure out how to get grub to boot my windows partition.. i have a windows partition on my second hard drive. ive done the chainloader +1 it still doesnt work |
| 21:25.57 | chino2 | ill brb |
| 21:25.58 | abrotman | ruied: is the database on the same server ? |
| 21:26.07 | ruied | yes |
| 21:26.15 | abrotman | ruied: you already have pgsql installed ? |
| 21:26.20 | dave | realplayer isnt a package, but anyway, i installed it, but i get the error that a component is missing, application/x-pn-imagemap |
| 21:26.27 | SerajewelKS | ruied: you may need to configure php to load the pgsql module. the mysql module for php doesn't add that line to php's config.. at least it didn't a while back. they might have fixed that by now. |
| 21:26.31 | SerajewelKS | dave: yes it is |
| 21:26.46 | SerajewelKS | dave: well, it's in marillat anyway |
| 21:26.54 | dave | i run debian? |
| 21:27.03 | SerajewelKS | @tell dave about marillat |
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| 21:27.09 | SerajewelKS | wtf |
| 21:27.12 | ruied | abrotman: php is something like a cgi to apache? |
| 21:27.13 | SerajewelKS | ~marillat |
| 21:27.14 | apt | [marillat] an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add this repository to your sources.list, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 21:27.14 | answerguy | chino2: you're not listening. It's a side effect of the ways in which routers between your endpoints are maintaining state (for NAT or stateful packet filtering) |
| 21:27.20 | SerajewelKS | dave: ^^^ |
| 21:27.26 | abrotman | ruied: you don't know what PHP is .. but you're going to install it ? |
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| 21:27.40 | ruied | SerajewelKS: ok, going to take that in my mind... |
| 21:27.50 | dave | k, thx |
| 21:28.32 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: the bot is all screwed up |
| 21:29.04 | JRtheGoob | so ive got the sata drivers for both nvidia and silicon images compiled in as well as scsi disk support... i dont know what could be wrong |
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| 21:29.53 | bl4ck02 | where can i found nice debian howto teaching ldap? |
| 21:29.55 | remedy | SerajewelKS: using that one liner; E: Couldn't find package nvidia-kernel-common |
| 21:30.06 | abrotman | eep .. another bot dies! |
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| 21:30.15 | abrotman | bl4ck02: regular ldap stuff hsould work |
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| 21:30.37 | bl4ck02 | abrotman where? |
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| 21:30.43 | SerajewelKS | remedy: one sec |
| 21:30.54 | JRtheGoob | according to this diagram in my mobo manual it looks like the sil images sata goes on the pci bus while the nforce sata goes straight to the nforce controller |
| 21:30.58 | SimonRaven | bl4ck02: /msg ravenbird aphroland; when it comes back |
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| 21:31.05 | ruied | abrotman: I think I know what php is but never installed, I'm asking because I want to be shure of what I am doing... and how exactly php interacts with apache |
| 21:31.07 | ribnitz | abrotman: What happened to all the others. I rarely see them.. |
| 21:31.23 | bl4ck02 | SimonRaven tks |
| 21:31.27 | SerajewelKS | remedy: do you have contrib and non-free sources enabled in your sources.list? |
| 21:31.28 | abrotman | bl4ck02: openldap.org .. #ldap .. /usr/share/doc/*ldap* or /slapd |
| 21:31.31 | abrotman | ribnitz: what others? |
| 21:31.40 | ribnitz | abrotman: the others. |
| 21:31.45 | abrotman | ribnitz: other bots or other people ? |
| 21:32.00 | ribnitz | abrotman: AFAIK the were people. |
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| 21:32.06 | PerfDave | ruied: PHP is a programming language of sorts. It is one of the languages you can use for writing CGI scripts in Apache, along with Perl, Ruby, Python, shell, C++, brainfuck or any other language you care to mention. |
| 21:32.11 | abrotman | ribnitz: we had were-people ? |
| 21:32.16 | omry | anyone knows of a good tool to capture video from the x server for documentations purposes? |
| 21:32.22 | m_athias | ahh good old brainfuck |
| 21:32.22 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: haha |
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| 21:32.35 | PerfDave | omry: There was an article on this on http://www.debian-administration.org/ a while ago |
| 21:32.40 | abrotman | ruied: libapache-mod-php4 is a PHP4 module |
| 21:32.40 | SerajewelKS | omry: iirc there's a vnc2swf thing |
| 21:33.13 | ribnitz | ruied: PHP is a small nifty (non-oo) programming language, for smallish web jobs. Teds to get you spaghetti-code for larger projects though. |
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| 21:33.22 | peter_ | hi all |
| 21:33.27 | SerajewelKS | ribnitz: php supports OO |
| 21:33.32 | abrotman | ribnitz: the other what ? bots or people .. and if people . which people are you looking for ? |
| 21:33.37 | SerajewelKS | ribnitz: a weak, fucked-up OO, but still OO |
| 21:33.44 | abrotman | php5 is better for OO |
| 21:33.55 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: so i've heard.. i hope it's decent =) |
| 21:33.57 | omry | PerfDave, SerajewelKS, thanks. |
| 21:33.58 | PerfDave | abrotman: ruby! :) |
| 21:34.02 | ribnitz | SerajewelKS: A propped up oo. Nothing comparable to python or java. |
| 21:34.07 | abrotman | PerfDave: sure .. why not |
| 21:34.09 | abrotman | ribnitz: the other what ? bots or people .. and if people . which people are you looking for ? |
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| 21:34.35 | SerajewelKS | ribnitz: certainly not. it's like perl's OO, only a lot more primitive and stupid. |
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| 21:34.40 | ribnitz | abrotman: That girlie from Signaprore (guewss asleep and at univ.).. |
| 21:34.41 | peter_ | how the hell do you get the java to work in fire foxfox |
| 21:34.47 | abrotman | ribnitz: she's here right now |
| 21:34.52 | PerfDave | peter_: /msg dpkg java |
| 21:34.54 | SerajewelKS | @java-package |
| 21:34.54 | ravenbird | i guess java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the ... |
| 21:34.59 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave: dpkg is fucked |
| 21:35.05 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Bah! |
| 21:35.09 | ribnitz | abrotman: Well, quiet.. :) |
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| 21:35.16 | abrotman | ribnitz: well .. sure .. some people sleep |
| 21:35.21 | odla | tarzeau: hi? |
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| 21:35.33 | mathias64 | peter_: install firefox in /usr/local, link the plugin into the plugins directory |
| 21:35.34 | peter_ | thanks perfdave |
| 21:35.37 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: And apt is horribly out of date |
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| 21:35.47 | Stereo | hi guys |
| 21:35.52 | dave | i get the same error message |
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| 21:35.55 | peter_ | ty |
| 21:35.55 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave: time to sync the databases? |
| 21:35.59 | Stereo | I'm trying to get the source for postix to apply a patch to it |
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| 21:36.08 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: I thought apt was supposed to sync with dpkg automatically... |
| 21:36.13 | Stereo | and I'm getting |
| 21:36.14 | Stereo | root@iridium:/usr/src# apt-get source postfix |
| 21:36.14 | Stereo | Reading package lists... Done |
| 21:36.14 | Stereo | Building dependency tree... Done |
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| 21:36.30 | Stereo | damn |
| 21:36.32 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave: there's no "supposed to" with computers |
| 21:36.32 | Stereo | I'm sorry |
| 21:36.34 | peterS | Stereo: yeah, don't paste. you need a 'deb-src' line in /etc/apt/sources.list, alongside the 'deb' lines |
| 21:36.36 | Stereo | wrong copy |
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| 21:36.47 | PerfDave | SerajewelKS: Sure there is, they're supposed to make life easier ;) |
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| 21:36.52 | Stereo | I just wanted to paste the last line |
| 21:36.57 | Stereo | peterS: I actually have one |
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| 21:37.09 | SimonRaven | that bit of blootbot isn't implemented |
| 21:37.09 | SerajewelKS | PerfDave: okay well true... but i meant that "supposed to" means nothing |
| 21:37.10 | chino2 | thanks answerguy wherever he went |
| 21:37.13 | dave | when i try to play a file in realplayer it says, componenet required:application/x-pn-imagemap |
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| 21:37.19 | PerfDave | Stereo: Have you checked the APT HOWTO on working with source packages? |
| 21:37.21 | Stereo | deb-src ftp://ftp.proxad.net/mirrors/ftp.debian.org/ testing main |
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| 21:37.24 | PerfDave | dave: Ask RealPlayer for support? |
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| 21:37.31 | dave | noone answered |
| 21:37.35 | Stereo | and I've tried another mirror, just in case |
| 21:37.39 | peterS | Stereo: I can't tell because you still haven't said what your error was |
| 21:37.44 | Stereo | haven't for some years, no |
| 21:37.46 | Stereo | ah, sorry |
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| 21:37.57 | Stereo | eeyore-: Unable to find a source package for postfix |
| 21:37.57 | PerfDave | dave: Ask again later? :) |
| 21:38.06 | Stereo | or even E: Unable to find a source package for postfix |
| 21:38.10 | Stereo | damn you, irssi |
| 21:38.12 | dave | gee thx |
| 21:38.26 | abrotman | realplayer for linux doens't work very well |
| 21:38.31 | peterS | Stereo: heh. that is odd, postfix is the name of the source package |
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| 21:38.33 | abrotman | i found it couldn't even play real streams :) |
| 21:38.33 | ruied | thanks peolple" :) I think I had now plenty good information about php from you guys! |
| 21:38.36 | ke6isf | Stereo: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 21:38.43 | Stereo | everything looks right, and I can grab the source for some packages like cowsay, but not for postfix |
| 21:38.48 | Stereo | ke6isf: testing |
| 21:39.00 | SimonRaven | ruied: www.php.net/ |
| 21:39.07 | ke6isf | Stereo: Paste your entire sources.list into #flood. |
| 21:39.11 | bucky | dave i think you're using helix.. not realplayer |
| 21:39.13 | chino2 | why doesn't my vim make any backup files ? |
| 21:39.25 | dave | it says realplayer? |
| 21:39.39 | SimonRaven | chino2: you haven't told it to? |
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| 21:39.50 | dave | i even did the marilliat thing and installed realplayer to make sure |
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| 21:39.54 | PerfDave | RealPlayer isn't in the Debian repositories, Helix is. |
| 21:40.00 | chino2 | yea i know but on slackware it was done by default for me :p |
| 21:40.09 | ruied | SimonRaven: thanks! ;) |
| 21:40.15 | ke6isf | !info postfix testing |
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| 21:40.16 | dave | i downloaded it from the real site, and from the marilliat |
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| 21:40.21 | SimonRaven | this isn't slackware (tm) |
| 21:40.35 | ke6isf | !test |
| 21:40.35 | dpkg_ | No, ke6isf, you're not online any more. |
| 21:40.43 | mike-e | PerfDave: hello sir, mind helping me with my locales issues now? |
| 21:40.47 | SimonRaven | real men and women make their own .vimrc |
| 21:40.56 | ke6isf | Feh, dpkg is on the rocks. |
| 21:40.58 | chino2 | set backupcopy=yes |
| 21:41.00 | chino2 | i have it on |
| 21:41.01 | peterS | ke6isf: the bot has to do a 'apt-get update' when you ask it for that stuff, unless it has already done so recently. this takes time |
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| 21:41.25 | ke6isf | peterS: Yes, but I didn't even get the "please wait" from the bot. |
| 21:41.27 | abrotman | peterS: dpkg has been messed up for the last few hours |
| 21:41.35 | dave | should i install helix instead? |
| 21:41.39 | SimonRaven | chino2: s/=yes// |
| 21:41.40 | peterS | abrotman: tell us the truth now - did you break it? |
| 21:41.44 | bucky | maybe it didn't install the plugin for your browser.. the one from realplayer does but it asks you first |
| 21:41.44 | bucky | http://www.real.com/linux?pcode=rn&src=freeplayer_partner&opage=freeplayer_partner |
| 21:41.46 | PerfDave | dave: So you've installed RealPlayer from an unofficial Debian package, and from upstream? |
| 21:41.49 | abrotman | peterS: stopped answering 'info' requests a while ago .. |
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| 21:41.54 | ke6isf | Stereo: What command line are you trying to give to retrieve postfix? |
| 21:42.02 | peterS | ke6isf: he said earlier |
| 21:42.03 | Stereo | ke6isf: apt-get source postfix |
| 21:42.12 | PerfDave | mike-e: What issues would those be? |
| 21:42.14 | ke6isf | !wayc Stereo |
| 21:42.14 | dpkg_ | Stereo: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 21:42.16 | chino2 | and my shell isn't colored at all |
| 21:42.19 | ke6isf | No, wrong. |
| 21:42.25 | peterS | ke6isf: 'cause he wants to add a patch to it |
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| 21:42.29 | mike-e | what's the url for the debian paster, dpk is a bit lagged (or dead) |
| 21:42.31 | dave | i didnt open it in a browser |
| 21:42.32 | ke6isf | peterS: Ah, OK. |
| 21:42.36 | Stereo | ke6isf: I need to apply a patch |
| 21:42.37 | mike-e | dpkg even |
| 21:42.37 | dpkg_ | odd |
| 21:42.49 | SimonRaven | channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 21:42.53 | dave | um, yes |
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| 21:43.02 | dave | both trys gave the same message |
| 21:43.28 | bucky | dave which version of debian are you using? |
| 21:43.45 | dave | how do i tell? |
| 21:43.46 | dave | testing i think |
| 21:44.03 | SimonRaven | what's sources.list say? |
| 21:44.12 | abrotman | !paste |
| 21:44.12 | dpkg_ | methinks paste is Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood , visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ , or try /msg paster help. don't eat this stuff. |
| 21:44.14 | dave | all 3 |
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| 21:44.42 | Stereo | could someone in testing try cd /tmp && apt-get source postfix |
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| 21:44.48 | Stereo | just out of curiosity? |
| 21:44.52 | SimonRaven | all 3 what? |
| 21:45.02 | jelly | what the rpm equivalent of dpkg -S |
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| 21:45.10 | ke6isf | Stereo: I just tested on sarge, it's there. I'd think that it *should* be on testing as well.... weird |
| 21:45.12 | Eulex | Stereo, could not find the source package |
| 21:45.14 | PerfDave | jelly: Ask the channel of a distro which uses RPM? :) |
| 21:45.22 | SimonRaven | go ask #fedora ;p |
| 21:45.36 | mike-e | PerfDave: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1267 (the reason why i've asked you is because you were helping me with it before) |
| 21:45.50 | Stereo | Eulex: aha! |
| 21:45.51 | dave | all 3 testing, stable, unstable |
| 21:45.52 | peterS | Stereo: you can debug your issue further by trying 'apt-cache showsrc postfix' and see if that turns up the one in testing |
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| 21:46.11 | doublehp | every day, I receive an email from localhost: "unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname()" why ? whats wrong ? |
| 21:46.12 | peterS | Stereo: it may be that postfix has been temporarily removed from testing for one reason or another. this happens to a lot of packages |
| 21:46.16 | SimonRaven | dave: ... don't mix like that |
| 21:46.22 | Stereo | peterS: did you see what Eulex said? |
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| 21:46.31 | peterS | Stereo: wasn't paying much attention, I'll check |
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| 21:46.44 | abrotman | peterS: packages.debian.org says it's there |
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| 21:46.55 | dave | but they never work, if i just have one then whenever i try to update the package lists one of them cant be found |
| 21:47.01 | peterS | abrotman: packages.debian.org is frequently a little out of date. not much, just a little |
| 21:47.06 | Stereo | yeah, it's odd. I might just grab it off the web |
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| 21:47.27 | abrotman | peterS: and my testing system will let me install it |
| 21:47.38 | Stereo | apt-cache showsrc postfix does indeed have the stuff |
| 21:47.40 | SerajewelKS | streuner: 'nother possibility is that your deb mirror is out of date |
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| 21:47.46 | SerajewelKS | erg |
| 21:47.56 | SerajewelKS | s/streuner/Stereo/ and it doesn't seem to be the case anyway |
| 21:47.56 | dave | installing helix didnt help, it told me to instal realplayer |
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| 21:48.21 | Stereo | SerajewelKS: i tried two mirrors already |
| 21:48.25 | PerfDave | mike-e: Sorry, I don't see what problem you're having there. |
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| 21:48.29 | Stereo | I'll try a third one |
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| 21:48.46 | evrenkan86 | how can figure out filesystem of a partition ?? |
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| 21:48.52 | peterS | evrenkan86: df |
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| 21:49.01 | ke6isf | evrenkan86: mount |
| 21:49.02 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: file -s /dev/hd.. |
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| 21:49.09 | dave | so, anyone any idea why how i get that component for realplayer ? application/x-pn-imagemap |
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| 21:49.19 | bucky | Stereo, worked for me |
| 21:49.23 | mike-e | PerfDave: oops, you're right. it isn't doing it now |
| 21:49.25 | mike-e | lol |
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| 21:49.26 | mike-e | sorry |
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| 21:49.42 | Stereo | bucky: thanks |
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| 21:49.58 | debiankid | hi all |
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| 21:50.00 | SerajewelKS | Stereo: is this sarge or etch? |
| 21:50.05 | debiankid | i finally have installed my debain |
| 21:50.07 | ribnitz | Suppose I have a pleasure, what would I do with it? - ejoy? |
| 21:50.11 | SerajewelKS | @debain |
| 21:50.11 | ravenbird | Debian! D-E-B-I-A-N! The first DPL was not named "Ain". Sheesh! |
| 21:50.18 | SimonRaven | dave: sounds more like the file's mimetype is fucked. i'd wget it, then run it locally |
| 21:50.21 | debiankid | debian |
| 21:50.22 | debiankid | :) |
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| 21:50.25 | Stereo | SerajewelKS: etch |
| 21:50.27 | ribnitz | ups ,wrong channel |
| 21:50.29 | Stereo | wow |
| 21:50.31 | dave | ? |
| 21:50.34 | Stereo | I fixed it |
| 21:50.37 | debiankid | now i am in upgrading my samba server |
| 21:50.40 | peterS | what'd you do, Stereo? |
| 21:50.44 | debiankid | im having trouble with the sid |
| 21:50.47 | SerajewelKS | Stereo: well apt-get source postfix works for me |
| 21:50.53 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: "the sid"? |
| 21:51.04 | debiankid | yes net getlocalsid |
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| 21:51.13 | peterS | SerajewelKS: he probably means the distribution, but he might mean the Security Identifier generated by samba at installation time (: |
| 21:51.14 | Stereo | it was my apt-conf |
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| 21:51.20 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS it says data :)) i need ext.. ntfs staff |
| 21:51.24 | debiankid | that is for the sym of the unix -nt users |
| 21:51.28 | Stereo | for some reason APT::Default-Release "testing"; made it impossible to install the source for postfix |
| 21:51.39 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: if it says data, there is no filesystem |
| 21:51.44 | dave | ? SimonRaven? |
| 21:51.44 | Stereo | do you lot think I should file a bug? |
| 21:51.45 | peterS | evrenkan86: 'mount -t ntfs' etc. will either succeed or fail. that's perhaps the best way you can tell |
| 21:52.17 | SerajewelKS | Stereo: did you not have a deb-src line for testing? |
| 21:52.23 | peterS | Stereo: that's a bit strange, but I don't know enough about that parameter to say whether it's *buggy*. could still be a fux0red mirror |
| 21:52.28 | debiankid | now i am having one trouble i want to yoin a computer to the new domain but i think the secrets.tdb is corrupt |
| 21:52.29 | peterS | SerajewelKS: yes he did |
| 21:52.54 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: so fix it |
| 21:52.59 | SimonRaven | dave: never used wget? |
| 21:53.01 | debiankid | SerajewelKS but how |
| 21:53.01 | peterS | SerajewelKS: you are being so helpful today |
| 21:53.12 | debiankid | SerajewelKS but how can i introduce the new sid on that file |
| 21:53.15 | SerajewelKS | debiankid: i dunno, however you got that file in the first place |
| 21:53.15 | dave | what u said meant nothing to me |
| 21:53.32 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS what do u mean no filesystem |
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| 21:53.43 | peterS | SerajewelKS: seriously, if you don't know anything about his problem, there's no need to say anything |
| 21:53.44 | evrenkan86 | its my fedora core |
| 21:53.47 | debiankid | well let me explai better |
| 21:53.48 | Stereo | SerajewelKS: I did |
| 21:53.57 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: if file can't identify it as a filesystem, then the filesystem is either corrupt or nonexistant |
| 21:54.06 | peterS | debiankid: wait, why did the sid change? samba upgrades in debian shouldn't change the sid |
| 21:54.10 | Stereo | peterS: I tried three mirrors. It works without the apt-conf, it borks with it |
| 21:54.15 | debiankid | peters really? |
| 21:54.29 | debiankid | peters but there is one troubl;e |
| 21:54.34 | peterS | debiankid: for exactly the reason you're talking about - you wouldn't want the sid to change and all the clients have to re-join your domain |
| 21:54.57 | debiankid | peters well im talikng about upgrade samba from a redhat to debian |
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| 21:55.18 | peterS | debiankid: OH. well never mind then. debian samba packages don't support a smooth upgrade from a redhat system (: |
| 21:55.43 | peterS | debiankid: anyway, if the domain sid changes, all the clients will have to re-join the domain anyway, regardless of what you do on the server |
| 21:55.45 | debiankid | peterS really ? them how come that i acn autenticate to the debian from my computer ? |
| 21:55.49 | peterS | debiankid: since all the clients think they already know the domain sid |
| 21:55.56 | debiankid | peters thats what i wanted to hear |
| 21:56.18 | bucky | the sid always give me trouble too... the sid has a mind of it's own |
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| 21:56.24 | peterS | debiankid: your options are (1) re-join the domain on all clients, or (2) figure out where the sid is stored in the samba config, and change it back to what the red hat machine had |
| 21:56.39 | peterS | bucky: it's just 3 32-bit integers, don't let them bully you |
| 21:56.39 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: could try to mount them though |
| 21:56.47 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS it does exist and i work on it |
| 21:56.47 | bucky | hahaha |
| 21:56.50 | evrenkan86 | i tried |
| 21:57.09 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: if it exists and it's mounted, then you should know how to find out what filesystem it's using |
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| 21:57.16 | debiankid | peters yes but the users , dont notice that right ? the persmisions on the computers are the same even if i rejoin the computers to the same domain ? |
| 21:57.19 | dave | ?simonraven? |
| 21:57.33 | evrenkan86 | thats the problem :)) |
| 21:57.36 | SerajewelKS | dave: do you have a question? |
| 21:57.49 | peterS | debiankid: permissions can be domain-user-based, in which case changing the SID invalidates the old permissions |
| 21:58.02 | peterS | debiankid: permissions based on local (non-domain) users will not be affected |
| 21:58.11 | debiankid | peters aaaaahhhh them i have to rejoin ? |
| 21:58.20 | debiankid | peters to avoid that |
| 21:58.27 | ruied | I've installed php4-psql and restarted apache, I tried to run a simple php code in html but it didn't show a thing... I'm trying with an index.htm is this ok? |
| 21:58.42 | dave | was told "sounds more like the file's mimetype is fucked. i'd wget it, then run it locally" which doesnt mean anything to me |
| 21:58.42 | peterS | debiankid: rejoining a domain, with a new sid, will mean that files stored on the client machine, with permissions of old users on the old domain, will have to have their permissions redone |
| 21:58.50 | debiankid | peters wehn i type in my debian server watch smbstatus i can c the computers connected to ipc |
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| 21:58.54 | SerajewelKS | ruied: do you even know what php is? |
| 21:58.57 | peterS | debiankid: it probably is simpler to figure out where the sid is stored in samba, and change it manually, and restart samba |
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| 21:59.11 | PerfDave | ruied: No, go read up on how to use PHP. Or just use Perl instead, it's much nicer :) |
| 21:59.24 | ruied | SerajewelKS: I think so... |
| 21:59.25 | peterS | debiankid: also, it's possible to connect to IPC$ anonymously, without being a domain member or having a valid login |
| 21:59.38 | numist | lies |
| 21:59.39 | debiankid | peters ohh |
| 21:59.41 | mcm_ | do you think that firefox 1.5 has a memory leak? |
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| 22:00.00 | debiankid | them what should i do ? rejoin right ? |
| 22:00.03 | SerajewelKS | mcm_: firefox having MEMORY LEAKS? no waaaaaay! |
| 22:00.11 | debiankid | cose i have all the configurations working |
| 22:00.37 | debiankid | brb |
| 22:00.43 | leikh | does cp take arguements to show speed, time elapsed and time remaining? |
| 22:00.43 | peterS | debiankid: if you rejoin, as far as the clients are concerned, the old users will no longer exist and new users with the same names will exist instead |
| 22:00.52 | ke6isf | What is cose? |
| 22:00.59 | SerajewelKS | leikh: no |
| 22:01.00 | peterS | debiankid: this is how file permissions will behave too, they'll be full of "unknown user" |
| 22:01.02 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS can u check out my msg on #flood |
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| 22:01.12 | debiankid | ohhhh my |
| 22:01.17 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: did you already paste it? |
| 22:01.19 | peterS | ke6isf: italian for "things" (: |
| 22:01.19 | mcm_ | SerajewelKS: hehe... the thing is if you run firefox for a long time say 2 days without closing it, it gets uses about 150mb of memory.... |
| 22:01.32 | evrenkan86 | yea |
| 22:01.32 | debiankid | but there is a way to avoid that to happend ? |
| 22:01.33 | dave | hi, i just installed realplayer in debian and i got the error says i need application/x-pn-imagemap? when i try to play a file ? |
| 22:01.36 | SerajewelKS | mcm_: same with azureus actually =) |
| 22:01.41 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: well i wasn't in #flood |
| 22:01.51 | debiankid | cose i have here more or less 150 users |
| 22:01.57 | nkuttler | ruied: apt-cache search php apache, install the correct package, read /usr/share/doc/php* and apache*. and the apache config |
| 22:02.01 | leikh | SerajewlKS: is there a way to copy files with these arguements in shell? |
| 22:02.06 | debiankid | do you know what is add all that users ? |
| 22:02.09 | peterS | debiankid: I would strongly suggest figuring out how to change the sid on the server, then |
| 22:02.18 | peterS | debiankid: I believe it is stored in /var/lib/samba/ somewhere, but I forget exactly where |
| 22:02.19 | SerajewelKS | leikh: i said *no*, there are no such options |
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| 22:02.26 | ruied | I've installed php to use with my postgresql server in apache, but something is missing I don't really know much about apache or php... |
| 22:02.27 | jelly | mcm_: Hey, if you want to see leaky software, use Opera. |
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| 22:02.40 | debiankid | ok |
| 22:02.56 | bbrazil | ruied: you got the php postgres module? |
| 22:03.00 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS http://rafb.net/paste/results/W1zEKz93.html |
| 22:03.01 | debiankid | yes i c |
| 22:03.08 | debiankid | in var/lib/samba |
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| 22:03.20 | debiankid | thereis secrets.db |
| 22:03.24 | debiankid | hehehhe |
| 22:03.27 | ruied | bbrazil: I've installed php4-psql |
| 22:03.34 | kingsley | Can apt-get also install recommnded or suggested packages? |
| 22:03.35 | debiankid | i think im going to rename that secrets.db |
| 22:03.37 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: ah, file probably doesn't know about lvm |
| 22:03.45 | nkuttler | ruied: read what i told you earlier |
| 22:03.50 | peterS | debiankid: it might be in secrets.tdb. there is a tool from the 'tdb-tools' package that lets you look inside tdb files |
| 22:04.02 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: you mean automatically? |
| 22:04.02 | Durin | ruied: just describe why you want to combine apache and postgresql |
| 22:04.05 | dave | nevermind guys, i'll just try windows, that actually generally works, inbetween blue screens of death. |
| 22:04.09 | debiankid | peters tdb-tools ? |
| 22:04.11 | leikh | SerajewelKS: i didn't realise you also had in mind all other ways of copying files besides with "cp"... |
| 22:04.13 | evrenkan86 | whAT is it |
| 22:04.15 | peterS | debiankid: another debian package |
| 22:04.27 | debiankid | peters jheejeh let me install it |
| 22:04.38 | SerajewelKS | leikh: you didn't ask about other things, you asked about cp |
| 22:04.42 | mcm_ | jelly: thanks for the offer... hehe... |
| 22:05.00 | kingsley | SerajewelKS: Yes. I'm hoping apt-get has an option like : apt-get -recommended install <package> |
| 22:05.01 | SerajewelKS | leikh: and i doubt there is such a command on the shell. if you need a progress meter, use a GUI like konqueror or nautilus. |
| 22:05.21 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: i don't think so |
| 22:05.32 | peterS | debiankid: also, you might just copy secrets.tdb from the red hat server. actually that will probably work. |
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| 22:05.46 | ruied | Durin: I would like to make some queries in a web page to my postgresql server, so it shows a generated web page with the result of a query |
| 22:06.05 | SerajewelKS | leikh: you can do cp -v to see the files as it's copying |
| 22:06.06 | ruied | my english is not so good... sorry... |
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| 22:06.47 | PerfDave | ruied: What is your native language? |
| 22:07.04 | PerfDave | ruied: You can make queries in postgresql and output to a web page in pretty much any programming language. |
| 22:07.08 | mike-e | dirkadirkastanian |
| 22:07.11 | Durin | ruied: ever worked with php? |
| 22:07.25 | ruied | my first time :) |
| 22:07.46 | leikh | SerajewelKS: gui is out of the question (remote access by ssh)... one file (4 GiB) is to be copied |
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| 22:08.18 | ruied | PerfDave: portuguese |
| 22:08.32 | debiankid | im searching the pdb-tools |
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| 22:08.48 | Durin | ruied: sorry - no easy answer - i would search for a tutorial ... |
| 22:08.51 | valdyn | leikh: try mc |
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| 22:08.51 | debiankid | i men tdb-tools |
| 22:08.58 | PerfDave | !br |
| 22:08.58 | dpkg_ | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 22:09.15 | debiankid | dpkg_ eh y tu sabes espanol ? |
| 22:09.38 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS dont forget me |
| 22:09.40 | nkuttler | debiankid: /msg apt search |
| 22:10.00 | debiankid | nkuttler heheh im working on it |
| 22:10.01 | nkuttler | debiankid: dpkg_ and apt are bots |
| 22:10.02 | SerajewelKS | evrenkan86: if you don't highlight me when asking questions, i'm likely to not even notice you talking |
| 22:10.22 | Coweater | is it safe to wait until testing freezes, switch my sources.list to stable and then do an upgrade after etch becomes stable? |
| 22:10.23 | debiankid | ups |
| 22:10.24 | ruied | ok, going to search a litle bit more... |
| 22:10.39 | leikh | valdyn: thx for the tip |
| 22:10.40 | evrenkan86 | SerajewelKS what is lvm and how can i mount it |
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| 22:10.50 | SerajewelKS | !lvm |
| 22:10.50 | dpkg_ | methinks lvm is at http://www.sistina.com/products_lvm.htm, Logical Volume Manager for Linux, or ask me about lvm_tutorial, or extremely sexy. almost as sexy as Theo |
| 22:10.55 | debiankid | i dont have that tool in my debian cds |
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| 22:11.03 | nkuttler | Coweater: or just write etch in your sources |
| 22:11.16 | Coweater | true |
| 22:11.33 | nkuttler | debiankid: the bot told you what to do if you /msgd him |
| 22:11.37 | doublehp | every day, I receive an email from localhost: "unable to lookup moon via gethostbyname()" why ? whats wrong ? |
| 22:11.47 | debiankid | wherei did |
| 22:11.50 | debiankid | i did |
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| 22:13.52 | debiankid | thanks im going to download it |
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| 22:14.36 | abrotman | !moo |
| 22:14.36 | dpkg_ | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 22:14.41 | abrotman | at least that still works! |
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| 22:15.26 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: you are one sick, twisted human being... |
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| 22:15.52 | SerajewelKS | abrotman: not that that's necessarily a bad thing |
| 22:15.53 | Ronin | and thats news SerajewelKS? :) |
| 22:16.47 | abrotman | SerajewelKS: !abrotman :) |
| 22:17.11 | SerajewelKS | !abrotman |
| 22:17.11 | dpkg_ | extra, extra, read all about it, abrotman is someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 22:17.21 | abrotman | peterS: can i download the recording ? |
| 22:17.23 | SerajewelKS | yeah okay |
| 22:17.40 | peterS | abrotman: I have a really crappy mike so I can't actually make recordings |
| 22:17.54 | debiankid | peters im going to install the tool |
| 22:18.05 | peterS | abrotman: we're talking quality like a sat phone to mars |
| 22:18.18 | abrotman | peterS: oh .. a lovely logitech mic ? |
| 22:18.46 | jelly | peterS: crap mikes sometimes do well, for a lovely garage sound ;-) |
| 22:18.48 | peterS | abrotman: no, a nameless classic-ice-cream-cone-shaped thing I found in a bin for $5 |
| 22:19.00 | jelly | crap I said lovely. |
| 22:19.02 | peterS | it wasn't worth the $5 |
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| 22:19.17 | abrotman | peterS: heheh |
| 22:19.21 | peterS | a logitech POS at least gives you telephone quality, y'know? |
| 22:19.36 | peterS | I could live with telephone quality |
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| 22:20.23 | debiankid | peters i did something better |
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| 22:20.52 | astronut | SerajewelKS: no it doesn't |
| 22:21.02 | dondelelcaro | dpkg_: wantnick |
| 22:21.29 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: dpkg in all incarnations is fubar it looks like. |
| 22:21.31 | debiankid | peters i make a backup to the file secrets.db and i rewrite the file with the backup of the redhat server |
| 22:21.36 | debiankid | i think the oly thing i have to do is restart samba server |
| 22:21.44 | debiankid | and the clients must conect to my pdc |
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| 22:21.55 | cire | I'd like to parse to output of "lws -sm ~" in a command line. I do not want to have "9 /home/name", I just want to get the "9"... |
| 22:21.56 | peterS | debiankid: right, try that first, if it works it's the easiest and best solution |
| 22:22.05 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'libdirectfb-0.9-20' returned no results. |
| 22:22.11 | debiankid | peters heheh ok let me try now |
| 22:22.16 | cire | sorry, "to prse the output" and "ls -sm ~" |
| 22:22.18 | debiankid | peters wish me luuk |
| 22:22.20 | tga | hey.. I'm trying to set up procmail for a catchall address.. how can I match the From address against a list of usernames? |
| 22:22.21 | SerajewelKS | astronut: it's a song |
| 22:22.23 | peterS | !bless debiankid |
| 22:22.31 | astronut | SerajewelKS: ah |
| 22:22.40 | SerajewelKS | astronut: hence the singing =P |
| 22:22.53 | mathias64 | tga: is the list going to be typed into the procmailrc or is it dynamically generated? |
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| 22:23.14 | SerajewelKS | dpkg! |
| 22:23.23 | SerajewelKS | !mwilson |
| 22:23.24 | dpkg | Hah! |
| 22:23.28 | SerajewelKS | yep |
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| 22:23.40 | jelly | The legent never dies! |
| 22:23.47 | jelly | s/t/d/ |
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| 22:23.57 | SerajewelKS | ... wtf is a legent? O_o |
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| 22:24.08 | tga | mathias64, I guess I'm just going to type it manually.. |
| 22:24.21 | mathias64 | tga: then type it as a regular expression... |
| 22:24.34 | debiankid | well not let me try to login in to a machine from the network |
| 22:24.55 | dondelelcaro | jelly: SOUL CALIBER! |
| 22:25.08 | jelly | andy0377: yep. separate the words with tabs. |
| 22:25.28 | evrenkan86 | s |
| 22:25.59 | tga | mathias64, right, I'll give it a try |
| 22:26.03 | jelly | dondelelcaro: I'm afraid I can't parse that, Dave. |
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| 22:26.25 | lgd_ | hi all |
| 22:26.26 | debiankid | hey it works |
| 22:26.27 | debiankid | yesssss |
| 22:26.30 | debiankid | im kinda happy |
| 22:26.34 | lgd_ | can i install a manual C in debian? |
| 22:26.34 | tga | mathias64, when I match an user how can I tell which one it was? |
| 22:26.36 | debiankid | i love debian hahahahaha |
| 22:26.43 | lgd_ | man function? |
| 22:27.05 | debiankid | heheheheheh finally i was able to ubgrade my samba pdc from redhat to debian linux yeahhhhh |
| 22:27.05 | pbrunier | some people here with DVORAK experience ? |
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| 22:27.23 | debiankid | from now on i work with debian , thanks all of you guys |
| 22:27.29 | SimonRaven | lgd_: apt-get install manpages-dev |
| 22:27.34 | tga | mathias64, mind if I message you? |
| 22:27.40 | lgd_ | SimonRaven: thank |
| 22:27.40 | toothpick | Is there a program you could recommend that works like camstudio (records what is on the screen and coming through the microphone) I want to use it to make tutorials/tests |
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| 22:27.42 | mathias64 | tga: no |
| 22:27.53 | SimonRaven | they're all in section 3 |
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| 22:27.58 | debiankid | peters it works |
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| 22:28.18 | peterS | debiankid: w00t |
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| 22:28.54 | debiankid | peters hahaha from now i work with debian |
| 22:28.54 | debiankid | peters thanks |
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| 22:32.07 | Walzmyn | evening gents |
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| 22:34.12 | war92 | Hi, say I want to become a package maintaner for a specific package that I want in Etch-- how would I go about adding that package into the repostiory? |
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| 22:36.58 | mathias64 | war92: start by making the package. get used to it. There is documentation on the debian website about how to become a developer. the gist of it is: it takes a long time and a bunch of hassle. A |
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| 22:37.05 | quitte | war92: start by reading the new maintainer guide |
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| 22:37.20 | PerfDave | war92: Get sponsored by a Debian Developer, file a Request for Packaging and Intent to Package, then stick it through the unstable mill. It's all documented on debian.org |
| 22:37.23 | ke6isf | !tell war92 -about nmg |
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| 22:37.54 | Walzmyn | can anybody here help me with getting a samba print server set up? |
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| 22:38.27 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: Maybe, if you tell us what problem you're having, and you're using Debian. If we can't help, #samba may be able to do so. |
| 22:38.34 | athoslnx | mind si è un servizio |
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| 22:38.55 | war92 | thanks.. |
| 22:38.55 | war92 | ! |
| 22:38.58 | war92 | will read |
| 22:39.02 | Walzmyn | I've just been pointed to the "export driver" command - it's telling me I need drivers from adobe's site, but I can't find anything there |
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| 22:39.23 | Walzmyn | I was hoping someone could point me to what I needed. |
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| 22:39.55 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: It would help if you provided more information, such as where this "export driver" command is, what printer you're trying to use, what drivers you're looking for, what you're actually trying to achieve, etcetera :) |
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| 22:40.00 | yure | Walzmyn, trick to getting the right anwser is asking the right question |
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| 22:40.17 | hent | Is the fact that people "can" choose to add non-free to their repositories the only reason that GNU doesn't recognize (link) debian as a free software OS? |
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| 22:40.30 | Walzmyn | sorry, I thought this was a simple thing to everbody else |
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| 22:40.45 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: It may be a simple thing, it's hard to tell if we don't know what you're trying to do :) |
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| 22:41.01 | PerfDave | hent: I think it's more that the Debian Project provides hosting for the non-free repository, and supports it through the BTS etc. |
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| 22:41.09 | Walzmyn | right click on the printer in the control panel for KDE - there's an option to export the printer driver to set it up for an XP box to print through my machine |
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| 22:41.51 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: So you've got a printer connected to your machine, and you're trying to make it available to a WinXP box on your LAN, using the KDE printer control dialogue? OK, where does Samba come into it? |
| 22:41.57 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: Also, what model printer do you have? |
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| 22:42.01 | Walzmyn | When I do that it tells me it is missing a driver and I can get it from Adobe's website. I searched everything I could on Adobe and found nothing useful |
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| 22:42.18 | Walzmyn | Hp deskjet 960 |
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| 22:42.40 | Walzmyn | yes on all that - I thought Samba was what made it all work for the XP box |
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| 22:43.16 | sharn | hello |
| 22:43.22 | hent | PerfDave: aah ok, some seem to people pretty hostile towards it :P I just wonder how others think of it :) |
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| 22:44.10 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: Not necessarily. Printer stuff is usually done with CUPS, and IIRC you can print directly to a CUPS server from Windows boxes. However, if you want to (a) browse printers on the network or (b) provide printer drivers directly to the Windows machines, you need a Samba server which talks to CUPS. |
| 22:44.17 | sharn | i need to know which version of debian to download |
| 22:44.21 | Walzmyn | ok, went back trought it again - the dialog pulled up says "this sets up a samba server...." |
| 22:44.37 | PerfDave | sharn: The latest stable release, 3.1 |
| 22:44.44 | Walzmyn | ok - what I've got |
| 22:44.58 | sharn | ok what about the mini one? |
| 22:45.01 | mathias64 | hent: the GNU people and Debian disagree about what ``free'' means. The GNU people dislike the non-free archive. The Debian project puts some GFDL documentation into the non-free archive. So niether side is ``more free'' than the other. |
| 22:45.01 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: You might be better off asking in #debian-kde - I'm a KDE user but don't have any local printers. |
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| 22:45.06 | Walzmyn | The XP box can see the printer on my linux machine, but says it is restricted from it |
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| 22:45.19 | PerfDave | sharn: "the mini one"? |
| 22:45.31 | hent | !tell sharn about netinst |
| 22:45.33 | mathias64 | At least, the last thing I saw said that a binch of docs will move into nonfree for etch |
| 22:45.38 | mathias64 | binch = bunch |
| 22:45.40 | Araf | Does debian hang at boottime, because fsck for some stupid reason wait for a real user to hit enter? |
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| 22:45.48 | Sitherious | sup |
| 22:45.51 | PerfDave | Araf: Only if there's a problem with the fsck. |
| 22:46.02 | Araf | I have to go and drive to the server to fix it - how can I get fsck to just continue next time? |
| 22:46.07 | Sitherious | anyone know of a good email demon that has a gui with it? |
| 22:46.17 | mathias64 | Araf: that sounds like fsck hanging, not debian. There is no software named ``debian'' that runs at boot. |
| 22:46.19 | Sitherious | deamon* |
| 22:46.30 | PerfDave | Araf: If fsck is stopping, then there's a good reason for it, and you don't want it to continue. |
| 22:46.32 | Araf | mathias64, Debian to me is the configuration. |
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| 22:46.38 | Walzmyn | without useing samba how to I get the XP box to print trough my machine? |
| 22:46.39 | sharn | yes the minimal space one or what ever thats 180 mb |
| 22:46.58 | PerfDave | Walzmyn: As I said, try asking #debian-kde about sharing a local printer in KDE. |
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| 22:47.07 | Araf | PerfDave, I'd rather have *something* running. |
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| 22:47.24 | Walzmyn | k |
| 22:47.24 | PerfDave | Araf: Usually if fsck fails, your system *cannot be booted* |
| 22:47.25 | Araf | PerfDave, I do keep backups, and it's much easier to restore backups than to hit the damn enter key. |
| 22:47.39 | hent | sharn: you choose what you install, i usually go with the netinstall tho, since it saves a lot of unused package downloading |
| 22:47.41 | yure | sharn: use netinst if you have good internet connecton, otherwise download the dvd, or else it will take years to download everything |
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| 22:47.53 | Araf | PerfDave, fsck always seemed to work fine on my local machines. |
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| 22:48.02 | PerfDave | Araf: What's your point? |
| 22:48.18 | mathias64 | from man mount: check=none / nocheck No checking is done at mount time. This is the default |
| 22:48.29 | sharn | the one that u have to download a lot of it afterwards |
| 22:48.32 | Araf | PerfDave, Does debian prompt you to hit 'y' or whatever to fix the partition, or does it just go ahead and try to fix it for you? |
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| 22:48.41 | mathias64 | under the options for ext2 |
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| 22:49.06 | PerfDave | Araf: Debian doesn't prompt me to do anything. fsck will fix errors it can safely fix automatically, and won't fix errors that it can't safely fix automatically. |
| 22:49.09 | nekrataal | hey |
| 22:49.22 | Araf | PerfDave, How do I get it to fix _those_ errors automatically? |
| 22:49.25 | sharn | ok but it has like 10 versions under it |
| 22:49.29 | nekrataal | how can i set the CC variable to the one wich is my kernel compiled with? |
| 22:49.31 | sharn | 10 links |
| 22:49.42 | hent | sharn: yes, dpkg has msg'd you the url for sarge netinstall |
| 22:49.50 | dondelelcaro | nekrataal: set CC and HOSTCC; ala make CC=foo HOSTCC=bar bleh; |
| 22:49.51 | Araf | PerfDave, What else would an admin do? I'd say that they'd normally check their backups, then do fsck anyway. |
| 22:49.52 | PerfDave | Araf: It can't fix them automatically, that's why it stops and asks for user input. Why is that a problem for you? |
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| 22:50.06 | dondelelcaro | nekrataal: or use MAKE_FLAGS with make-kpkg; /msg dpkg kp |
| 22:50.07 | PerfDave | Araf: An admin will sit down at the console and work out what's wrong and fix it. |
| 22:50.10 | nosklo | Araf, write software that can fix these kind of erros automatically |
| 22:50.11 | mike-e | what kind of extention do most icons end in? |
| 22:50.13 | Walzmyn | Nobody's home in #debian-kde |
| 22:50.14 | sharn | ok ty ill try it |
| 22:50.16 | nekrataal | dondelelcaro, how? |
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| 22:50.24 | Sitherious | does anyone know of a email deamon that has a gui for it? |
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| 22:50.34 | dondelelcaro | nekrataal: uh... I just spelt it out for you. |
| 22:50.45 | mathias64 | Walzmyn: maybe they are just waiting for kde to load |
| 22:50.52 | Araf | PerfDave, And what exactly would they do? |
| 22:50.59 | Ronin | Sitherious: as in a mta? who needs a gui for that? |
| 22:50.59 | PerfDave | Araf: That depends entirely on what's wrong :) |
| 22:51.10 | Araf | PerfDave, Follow the instructions which says something like "Run fsck -f /dev/hda1" or something? |
| 22:51.11 | hent | sharn: have fun :) |
| 22:51.24 | Sitherious | ronnin : eh i like gui's :) |
| 22:51.26 | PerfDave | Sitherious: Uhm, a daemon is something which runs in the background without intervention, they don't have GUIs. |
| 22:51.32 | wolfdream | The folks over in #samba are sleeping... so I'll ask here: |
| 22:51.40 | Walzmyn | mathias64 - not funny :) |
| 22:51.45 | wolfdream | I'm doing a local rsync, from one samba mount to another (so to rsync it's local, when actually it's not really). Here's the command I'm using: |
| 22:51.45 | wolfdream | $ rsync -av --progress --stats --modify-window=1 ./music/ ./music2/ |
| 22:51.45 | wolfdream | and here's the errors I'm seeing: |
| 22:51.45 | wolfdream | $ rsync: failed to set times on "/mnt/music2/.": Permission denied (13) |
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| 22:51.46 | abrotman | /alarm #samba |
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| 22:51.49 | Durin | Araf: see /etc/default/rcS (on your own risk :-) |
| 22:52.01 | Sitherious | perfdave: i knoe that but i like guis for configing |
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| 22:52.06 | abrotman | wolfdream: don't paste here |
| 22:52.17 | mathias64 | Walzmyn: did you have a question about kde or something? |
| 22:52.18 | wolfdream | okay... so I won't paste my question here... |
| 22:52.19 | PerfDave | Sitherious: Oh, you want a GUI program which writes a server configuration file for you? |
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| 22:52.27 | wolfdream | abrotman: yeah... I'm a dork |
| 22:52.27 | Araf | PerfDave, If the partition is corrupt, why wouldn't an admin run fsck? |
| 22:52.30 | Sitherious | perfdave: yes |
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| 22:52.37 | abrotman | wolfdream: we noticed :) |
| 22:52.42 | nekrataal | :( |
| 22:52.42 | Araf | Durin, Thanks, I'll edit those. |
| 22:52.42 | wolfdream | :) |
| 22:52.44 | PerfDave | Sitherious: Debian packages can be reconfigured with dpkg-reconfigure, which can have a GUI frontend. |
| 22:52.51 | Walzmyn | i'm trying to get my printer to work with the wife's XP box - perfdave sent me to the KDE channel |
| 22:52.53 | wolfdream | so... I'm doing a local to local rsync |
| 22:53.01 | Sitherious | perfdave and lets me add and change stuff for the email deamon |
| 22:53.02 | wolfdream | $ rsync -av --progress --stats --modify-window=1 ./music/ ./music2/ |
| 22:53.08 | PerfDave | Sitherious: Yes |
| 22:53.11 | wolfdream | these are mounted smaba partitions |
| 22:53.17 | wolfdream | s/smaba/samba |
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| 22:53.30 | wolfdream | and I'm getting the following errors: |
| 22:53.32 | wolfdream | $ rsync: failed to set times on "/mnt/music2/.": Permission denied (13) |
| 22:53.35 | mirak | why isn't sudo spreading the cookie to all session over X. For exemple, why is it needed to reenter a password for another terminal under X when you use sudo ? |
| 22:53.42 | Sitherious | perfdave: dpkg-reconfigure is the command? |
| 22:53.48 | wolfdream | $ rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(789) |
| 22:53.58 | PerfDave | Sitherious: dpkg-reconfigure is the command to reconfigure a Debian package. |
| 22:54.02 | Sitherious | perfdave: thanks |
| 22:54.30 | wolfdream | I've read the news group posts indicating that perhaps the mounts haven't been mounted with the ability for the system to set the owner of the files.... and yet they are being set with the proper ownership, group and user permissions, so I don't think that's it. |
| 22:54.46 | SimonRaven | s/deamon/daemon/ |
| 22:54.49 | PerfDave | wolfdream: Does CIFS / SMB understand the concept of an access time? |
| 22:55.11 | wolfdream | PerfDave... that's a damn good question |
| 22:55.24 | wolfdream | PerfDave: I've always assumed so... |
| 22:55.29 | nekrataal | Kernel compiler: gcc version 3.3.5 -------------thats my kernel compiler, y need to set CC to be the same |
| 22:55.35 | wolfdream | PerfDave: I'll go find out |
| 22:55.38 | nekrataal | how can i do it? |
| 22:56.33 | sharn | ok i dont really have a cd burner i can use can i dl it onto my hd and install it from there? |
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| 22:56.55 | sharn | wtf? |
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| 22:57.17 | SimonRaven | mirak: see the tty_tickets in 'Defaults' in /etc/sudoers (edit with visudo) |
| 22:57.26 | Araf | sharn, Yes, but it's not a typical install then. |
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| 22:57.30 | Loevborg | is there a command that outputs a regular file as it grows, w/o exiting when hitting EOF? |
| 22:57.41 | Araf | sharn, You'll still need to download something that boots. |
| 22:57.47 | SimonRaven | mirak: ubuntu's sudo sets that |
| 22:57.55 | PerfDave | sharn: Try reading the Installation Manual for your installation options. |
| 22:58.00 | Araf | sharn, Why are you downloading an ISO anyway? |
| 22:58.00 | mirak | SimonRaven: hello |
| 22:58.02 | Loevborg | (I dont want only the last lines like with tail -f) |
| 22:58.08 | PerfDave | Loevborg: less? |
| 22:58.32 | SimonRaven | hi |
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| 22:58.43 | Loevborg | PerfDave, I'm not looking for interactive paging... |
| 22:58.45 | nixie2 | what could be the problem when my 2.4 kernel recognises my raid superblocks, but a 2.6 kernel doesnt? mdadm reports the correct info on 2.4, but on 2.6 it can't find the superblock. it's positively the same device (/dev/hde) i'm querying with mdadm --examine. |
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| 22:59.07 | Loevborg | PerfDave, or can I pipe less output to another proces?? |
| 22:59.10 | mirak | SimonRaven: ok it works when I create a new instance from that terminal instance, but not from gnome launcher for exemple |
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| 22:59.31 | SimonRaven | remove it/comment it |
| 22:59.33 | nixie2 | and secondly, is there any way to re-write the superblock information without damaging the raid? is it possible to just recreate the raid device on 2.6 without data loss, given that i use the exact same parameters? |
| 22:59.48 | xaltar | does anyone run sid, gnome, gdesklets, with a patterned application background and notice that gdesklets uses the patterned background? |
| 23:00.14 | mathias64 | Loevborg: what do you want, then? |
| 23:00.22 | sharn | how can i install off my hard drive??? like if i dl it but dont burn it onto cd? |
| 23:00.37 | mathias64 | Let us know what's wrong with tail -f and we might be able to tell you something else |
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| 23:00.43 | wolfdream | PerfDave: it looks like the patch to preserve accesstime's in Samba was added sometime in 2001. |
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| 23:00.53 | cire | please, doesn't anyone know how to do this: I have a command "ls -sm ~ | cut -f1 >info.txt", and now want to add "MB" to this file. (echo MB > info.txt). The problem is, that "ls..." created a newline, so that MB is written into a new line in thie file. How may I avoid that? |
| 23:00.56 | mathias64 | sharn: look in the install guide, they give specific directions |
| 23:00.56 | Loevborg | mathias64, I have one mplayer process that dumps a stream |
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| 23:01.13 | Loevborg | mathias64, another mplayer reads it, but stops at the EOF |
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| 23:01.15 | thomas_adam | cire: You want it at the end of every line? |
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| 23:01.20 | Durin | nixie2: /dev/hde sounds like sara? |
| 23:01.26 | nekrataal | mmm |
| 23:01.27 | Loevborg | mathias64, but mplayer can also read from a pipe |
| 23:01.32 | nkuttler | cire: try help echo |
| 23:01.34 | Durin | s/sara/sata/ |
| 23:01.35 | sharn | ||||||||| |
| 23:01.38 | mathias64 | Loevborg: I was going to ask if the pipe will work |
| 23:01.41 | nekrataal | how can i set the CC variable to the be the same as the kernel compiler? |
| 23:01.47 | cire | thomas adams "I want to have "9 MB" instead of "9{newline}MB" |
| 23:01.50 | SimonRaven | cire: the echo MB >> file does it |
| 23:01.51 | Araf | In what situations would an admin NOT run 'fsck -a' on a partition? |
| 23:02.06 | thomas_adam | cire: You want echo -n, most likely. |
| 23:02.08 | Loevborg | mathias64, so if a program can act like tail -f, without truncating the head of the file, it would be perfect |
| 23:02.08 | cire | SimonRaven: But it puts it in a new line |
| 23:02.16 | nixie2 | Durin: nope. it doesnt matter which IDE drive i query. with mdadm --examine on 2.4, it finds the superblocks. on 2.6 it doesnt. hda+c are onboard, hde+g an IDE card (promise) |
| 23:02.21 | mathias64 | Loevborg: when you say the second mplayer dies, do you mean it hits the end of the buffer and then quits? Or it fineds a random \00 character in the file and stops? |
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| 23:02.27 | sharn | anyone here? |
| 23:02.35 | Ronin | no sharn no ones here |
| 23:02.35 | SimonRaven | no |
| 23:02.38 | cire | no, echo -n removes the last newline, but I have to delete the newline the "ls ... >info.txt" produced |
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| 23:02.47 | mirak | SimonRaven: thanks |
| 23:02.48 | thomas_adam | cire: So clarify -- do you want MB on the end of everyline, or not? |
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| 23:03.02 | tarzeau | odla: oops so sorry |
| 23:03.09 | tarzeau | odla: i've been talking with that girl... |
| 23:03.14 | tarzeau | odla: and then we dated... |
| 23:03.24 | tarzeau | odla: and now it's too late for bub-n-bros.sf.net, sooorry |
| 23:03.30 | Loevborg | mathias64, no it actually hits the end of the file (because the other mplayer writes the file in realtime, and the reading mplayer has a read-ahead buffer) |
| 23:03.35 | sharn | knock knock |
| 23:03.45 | Loevborg | mathias64, you understand what I'm getting at ? ;) |
| 23:03.48 | Ronin | sharn: we see and saw you |
| 23:03.48 | Janos | hey there, is there any option for dpkg that shows me the information of an installed package, like version and description ? i've read the man and it says it can do it but only for .deb archives not for installed packages |
| 23:03.48 | sharn | im talking to a wall | |
| 23:03.49 | cire | Sorry, I don't understand your question. I want to have "9 MB" in my file. 9 is the output of "ls -sm ~ | cut f1", and MB shall be added to the SAME line. |
| 23:03.53 | mike-e | anyone know when 1.5 will be packaged for debian? |
| 23:03.58 | mike-e | anyone know when gaim 1.5 will be packaged for debian? |
| 23:03.58 | Ronin | sharn: did you do what PerfDave suggested? |
| 23:04.03 | mathias64 | Loevborg: right. So tail -f won't help, because you need the read() call for the reading mplayer to block instead of returning EOF. |
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| 23:04.27 | sharn | ...................... |
| 23:04.30 | sharn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.34 | SimonRaven | whoio's there? |
| 23:04.39 | sharn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.49 | sharn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:04.50 | Ronin | ok i see sharn just wants to be a troll |
| 23:04.55 | Loevborg | mathias64, but tail -f blocks, doesn't it? |
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| 23:05.12 | nekrataal | how can i set the CC variable to the be the same as the kernel compiler? |
| 23:05.13 | mathias64 | Loevburg: how do you get the output from tail -f to the reading mplayer? |
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| 23:05.41 | mathias64 | nekrataal: export CC=foo |
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| 23:06.00 | Durin | nixie2: are you sure your disks are recognized as IDE drives and not as SCSI drives in 2.6? |
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| 23:06.15 | thecoolestcow | hey, i've googled it and can't find anything: how can i start something on startup, for example xbindkeys |
| 23:06.18 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 23:06.19 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure populartiy-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 23:06.30 | mathias64 | thecoolestcow: put it in your .Xsession |
| 23:06.36 | SimonRaven | !popcorn |
| 23:06.37 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: .xsession |
| 23:06.40 | Loevborg | mathias64, tail -n 999999 -f stream.dump| mplayer - |
| 23:06.41 | cire | Nobody knows how to get "used space in your homedir: xx MB" into a file, where xx is the used space, and MB shall be in the same line? |
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| 23:06.48 | mike-e | god I hate downloading from sourceforge |
| 23:06.55 | thomas_adam | cire: man du, then. |
| 23:06.57 | Loevborg | mathias64, that does seem to work, but looks stupid :) |
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| 23:07.34 | M_Cheevy | heya ppls... anyone know a quick step-by-step guide to getting emu10k module to use the digital out on the SB card by default? |
| 23:07.41 | mathias64 | Loevborg: tail isn't ideal there because tail is line-buffered. If your stream happens to not have a \n in it, tail won't print anything until the end, right? |
| 23:07.45 | thomas_adam | cire: du -sh | awk '{print $1}' |
| 23:07.48 | thecoolestcow | mathias64: wheres the .xsession |
| 23:07.57 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: ~/.xsession |
| 23:08.02 | nixie2 | Durin: i am 100% positive disks are recognised. i am just confused why 2.6 doesn't see my superblocks. |
| 23:08.02 | thecoolestcow | k. |
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| 23:08.19 | M_Cheevy | nixie: software raid? |
| 23:08.19 | Loevborg | mathias64, ah yes, that's another problem |
| 23:08.24 | raden_2 | is there a command to tell via console what format a cd is ? |
| 23:08.25 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: yep. |
| 23:08.36 | nixie2 | works in 2.4.32, not recognised in 2.6.14.3. raid5. |
| 23:08.38 | thomas_adam | raden_2: mount |
| 23:08.51 | M_Cheevy | nixie: you're in for a lot of fun.. I just finished (after 2 wks of tweaking) how to get it to mount... |
| 23:08.53 | Thaiger | I'm trying to upgrade my kernel from 2.4.27 to 2.6.14 so I got the kernel-image-2.6-386 package, but when apt goes to set it up it fails saying I don't have a suitable ramdisk generation tool for 2.6.14. Where do I get a suitable one? |
| 23:08.57 | wolfdream | PerfDave: Okay... so it looks like CIFS/SMB support access times... though I'm not sure why you asked... |
| 23:08.59 | nixie2 | mdadm --examine reports fine in 2.4, cannot find superblock in 2.6 |
| 23:09.06 | odla | is there a way to dual boot with debian and os/2? |
| 23:09.14 | Loevborg | mathias64, if I knew how te functionality I m looking for is called, I could give google a try ;) |
| 23:09.17 | M_Cheevy | nixie: probably the issue is the difference between devfs and udev |
| 23:09.21 | Durin | nixie2: sorry, no idea - here i can switch without any problem |
| 23:09.31 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: what more can you tell me? cause it is |
| 23:10.03 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: is it bad that i can't find it in the ~ directory... |
| 23:10.03 | M_Cheevy | nixie: basically, if you're using dmraid in initrd to create the /dev/mapper nodes, when udev mounts after this, it wipes out the /dev/mapper stuff... |
| 23:10.03 | mathias64 | Loevborg: I don't know of a basic command to do what you are asking. What you want is something that reads a file and sends the output to stdout, but instead of stopping at EOF just waits for more to appear in the file. you could write a small C program to do it. |
| 23:10.04 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: i'm thinking about re-creating the raid on 2.6 but im not sure if that would work |
| 23:10.34 | cire | thomas adam: this produces 8.1M, I need "8.1 MB" |
| 23:10.34 | M_Cheevy | nixie: that might be a solution as long as you don't have any other OS's on the raid array |
| 23:10.36 | Loevborg | mathias64, yes or perl |
| 23:10.44 | mathias64 | Loevborg: sure, perl would be fine. |
| 23:11.02 | thomas_adam | cire: Yeah? du -sh . | awk '{print $1 "B"}' |
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| 23:11.20 | Loevborg | mathias64, I probably need to poll at regular intervals - lame |
| 23:11.38 | mathias64 | Loevborg: either way, you have to use read() (or sysread() in perl, maybe) and use the returned values to tell when there is more data available. Maybe you could use poll() or select() if you wanted to be fancy |
| 23:11.39 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: well, the thing is that even if i recreate the array on 2.6 with the exact same parameters as it was initially made with, i am not sure what data it would write to the disks and i don't want to lose data. it's raid5 and afaik, if i make a raid5 array, it will start syncing and effectively wipe my data |
| 23:11.43 | cire | thank you very much, I searched for hours for a solution! |
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| 23:12.19 | thomas_adam | You're welcome. |
| 23:12.28 | Loevborg | mathias64, I think I'll prefer to prcrastinate :) |
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| 23:12.50 | Loevborg | mathias64, tail -99999 seems to work alright with the data |
| 23:13.11 | mathias64 | You could let the first mplayer finish writing, then start the second one. tail will work fine as long as there are enough newlines in the output data |
| 23:13.23 | M_Cheevy | nixie: yeap.. that's one of the dangers... since I had 5 existing winblows partitions I couldn't afford to blow mine away either. I used dmraid to recognise the existing raid array partitions, (using a gentoo livecd), then debootstrap installed to the recognised partitions |
| 23:14.12 | M_Cheevy | nixie: udev isn't actually required for 2.6 only a few aspects of gnome use it |
| 23:14.30 | wolfdream | PerfDave: you still there? |
| 23:14.38 | Loevborg | mathias64, the whole point of this is not to wait until the stream is over |
| 23:14.43 | wolfdream | PerfDave: you put me down the right road |
| 23:14.54 | Loevborg | mathias64, but thanks a lot for your input |
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| 23:15.01 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: i don't care about the devfs. what i dont understand, is that if devfs is in the kernel, the superblocks are recognised, and if it isn't, mdadm doesn't seem to find the superblock at all. |
| 23:15.06 | mathias64 | Loevborg: good luck |
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| 23:15.16 | wolfdream | PerfDave: I added the --omit-dir-times, and the errors went awy |
| 23:15.19 | wolfdream | s/awy/away |
| 23:15.36 | M_Cheevy | nixie: devfs = device mapper file system... mdadm uses mapped devices.... |
| 23:15.51 | wolfdream | PerfDave: thanks. |
| 23:16.02 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: so where is this superblock data written to then? |
| 23:16.12 | soldieruk400 | hi all does anyone know how to add an ipod to ubuntu or download decoders? |
| 23:16.27 | resiak | !ubuntu |
| 23:16.28 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
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| 23:16.49 | soldieruk400 | ok linux lol |
| 23:17.24 | M_Cheevy | nixie: the superblock data isn't your issue. your issue is that linux is initially recognises the arrays, but when udev loads and recreates the /dev tree it doesn't create the /dev/mapper/sil_afbhccbjfeah1 (or whatever your specific card creates) afterwards |
| 23:17.39 | thecoolestcow | hey... i don't have a .xsession or .xinitrc anywhere, can someone help me out? |
| 23:17.45 | soldieruk400 | guess not then lol |
| 23:17.51 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: create it |
| 23:18.08 | M_Cheevy | nixie: or at least that's behaviour problem I had with the move from device-mapper to udev |
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| 23:18.34 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: oh. ok then. does syntax or anything matter in it? |
| 23:18.45 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: jsut a shell script |
| 23:18.50 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: like, could i just put "xbindkeys" and thats all? |
| 23:18.57 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: oh, i don't know about that stuff.. |
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| 23:19.04 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: i already included /dev/ide/hostX/busX/targetX/lunX/* mappings to udev.rules, so that's not it. |
| 23:19.19 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: sshonly.sytes.net/config/home/deadcat/.xsession |
| 23:19.19 | M_Cheevy | nixie: here's something I found that might help ya... https://listman.redhat.com/archives/ataraid-list/2005-April/msg00005.html |
| 23:19.39 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: regardless of the mount paths, mdadm -E /dev/hdX should report the same, whether on 2.6 or 2.4. Or am i missing something here? |
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| 23:20.05 | M_Cheevy | nixie: not 100% sure as I gave up on mdadm and went to dmraid |
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| 23:20.32 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: what? |
| 23:20.50 | deadcat | thecoolestcow: if you dont know what that means. ignore it |
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| 23:20.59 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: then i will. |
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| 23:21.14 | thecoolestcow | deadcat: oh, it's a url... |
| 23:21.18 | M_Cheevy | heya ppls... anyone know a quick step-by-step guide to getting emu10k module to use the digital out on the SB card by default? |
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| 23:22.11 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: if it's alsa, google on asoundrc. can also be /etc/asoundrc.conf |
| 23:22.26 | nekrataal | how can i set the CC variable to the be the same as the kernel compiler? |
| 23:22.45 | M_Cheevy | nixie: cool, the moved it out of having to hack the modules files themselves... |
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| 23:22.58 | deadcat | nekrataal: we told you. export CC=blah |
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| 23:23.19 | tarzeau | abrotman: ping |
| 23:23.32 | nixie2 | M_Cheevy: its stuff like pcm.!default { card 0; device 2 } etc. with tthe device 2 you can put the hw:x,y setting as default for alsa, user or systemwide |
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| 23:24.07 | M_Cheevy | nixie: oy vey.... |
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| 23:25.49 | nekrataal | blah? |
| 23:25.54 | nekrataal | deadcat, ?? |
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| 23:26.16 | Loevborg | mathias64, ah and there's a "--bytes" (as opposed to --lines) cmdl switch, maybe that's not line-buffered any more then |
| 23:26.18 | robin_sz | morning girls |
| 23:26.18 | quik_ | hey folks |
| 23:26.50 | robin_sz | so .. ntp ... /etc/init.d/ntpdate .. that just slaps the clock once at system startup and then leaves it alone, right? |
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| 23:26.59 | quik_ | I want to setup a subversion repository on a debian box locally, is there a really easy apt-get method to install svn/apache/webdav to get it all running in a couple of simple commands? |
| 23:27.06 | nekrataal | deadcat, i dont understand blah, isnt worknig.. |
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| 23:27.37 | robin_sz | what package do I need to keep the clock continually locked to an ntp server huh? |
| 23:27.52 | mike-e | has anyone compiled gaim 1.5.0 on debian sarge yet? |
| 23:28.08 | litage | would the cron entry "* * */14 * * /foo/bar" run /foo/bar every 14 days? |
| 23:28.36 | magik | hwo want talk whith magik?;) |
| 23:29.13 | magik | who? |
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| 23:29.20 | Durin | robin_sz: ntp-simple or chrony |
| 23:29.29 | robin_sz | chrony? new one on me |
| 23:29.32 | toothpick | Is there a channel for sid besides the obvious? I'm trying to get xvidcap working. |
| 23:29.58 | robin_sz | Durin: thnaks. |
| 23:30.02 | magik | how see connection in my compyter? |
| 23:30.15 | magik | Anybody know? |
| 23:30.15 | bob2 | netstat |
| 23:30.16 | robin_sz | magik: IP coneections? |
| 23:30.21 | robin_sz | netstat -tuapn |
| 23:30.21 | bob2 | but you will need to use the right flags |
| 23:30.33 | robin_sz | or .. better still, |
| 23:30.39 | robin_sz | netstat -upant |
| 23:30.50 | robin_sz | same thing, but with pants |
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| 23:31.07 | magik | netstat is very long! |
| 23:31.25 | nekrataal | :(:(:(:( |
| 23:31.29 | robin_sz | well, | grep <whatevr it is you are intersted in> |
| 23:31.32 | Daishi | whats a decent video conversion frontend? right now packages.debian.org gives me some keyword missing error when searching in descriptions |
| 23:31.35 | magik | ip my freund is then |
| 23:31.35 | bob2 | I always liked 'netstat -plunt' |
| 23:31.40 | bob2 | pity -p isn't an alias for -b |
| 23:31.53 | bob2 | Daishi: 'apt-cache search video convert'? |
| 23:32.07 | Daishi | bob2: oo so thats how i do it |
| 23:32.12 | Daishi | im still new to debian |
| 23:32.32 | Daishi | thanks |
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| 23:33.12 | raden_2 | how do you make a ISO of a dvd ? |
| 23:33.22 | robin_sz | eh? |
| 23:33.34 | robin_sz | dvds are in dvd format |
| 23:33.38 | Daishi | dd if=/dev/dvd of=dvd.iso ? |
| 23:33.41 | robin_sz | not iso AFAIK |
| 23:33.48 | raden_2 | ? |
| 23:33.55 | raden_2 | like how can i make a backup image ? |
| 23:34.00 | Daishi | my command |
| 23:34.01 | raden_2 | like if i need to burn it later |
| 23:34.08 | raden_2 | like CD images |
| 23:34.23 | Daishi | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=cd.iso |
| 23:34.31 | robin_sz | well wahat Daishi said ... |
| 23:34.45 | Daishi | then later on you cdrecord the iso |
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| 23:35.00 | Daishi | or whatever tool does dvds |
| 23:35.03 | Daishi | i wouldnt know |
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| 23:35.38 | bob2 | Daishi: np |
| 23:35.44 | cunter | cann anybody tell me if port 500 is used by standart ? |
| 23:35.46 | magik | What make if windows have lock. No connect ping. I want his. So? |
| 23:35.54 | bob2 | cunter: grep 500 /etc/services |
| 23:36.02 | cunter | my vpnc says: /usr/sbin/vpnc: binding to port 500: Address already in use |
| 23:36.05 | tarzeau | !confuse magik |
| 23:36.05 | dpkg | Yes, how are your gerbil yesterday, magik? pants of the democracy of belarus with extra herring |
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| 23:36.07 | Durin | cunter: ISAKMP (part of ipsec) |
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| 23:36.17 | bob2 | cunter: this is not an approrpriate place to ask for help with Ubuntu, sorry |
| 23:37.03 | nekrataal | export CC=blah isnt working.. |
| 23:37.03 | magik | dpkg??? I know you |
| 23:37.03 | cunter | sorry. how did you know, im using ubuntu ? |
| 23:37.05 | magik | you is in my computer (Debian) |
| 23:37.05 | Daishi | bob2: and now ive found that there really arent any for debian (etch) so instead i shall read the mencoder man page |
| 23:37.07 | Ronin | most likelythe channels your also in cunter |
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| 23:37.17 | cunter | ah, ok |
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| 23:37.31 | landslide | if I plug in a usb drive how do I find out what /dev/ it is using? |
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| 23:37.41 | landslide | is there like a cat /proc/devices ? or something like that? |
| 23:37.42 | cunter | but they are simiular distributions, so they might have same problems |
| 23:37.46 | robin_sz | nekrataal: try export CC='blah isnt working' |
| 23:37.47 | mike-e | what would the appropriate syntax be to add etch to my debian repositories |
| 23:37.53 | moret | hi all! |
| 23:37.53 | magik | So? How make this connect? |
| 23:37.56 | moret | I need help with file-rc |
| 23:38.04 | Ronin | simular but not the same, its like asking in #redhat about mandriva |
| 23:38.10 | magik | Windows have dam |
| 23:38.11 | bob2 | Daishi: heh, ouch |
| 23:38.20 | bob2 | cunter: no, sorry, you'll need to ask in #ubuntu |
| 23:38.24 | mike-e | mage: hai2u |
| 23:38.27 | mike-e | oops |
| 23:38.30 | mike-e | magik: hai2u |
| 23:38.30 | cunter | they don't knoe |
| 23:38.31 | bob2 | cunter: I know you're using ubuntu because I saw you ask the same question in #ubuntu |
| 23:38.38 | bob2 | cunter: that's not the point, sorry |
| 23:38.39 | magik | hwat is hai2u? |
| 23:38.43 | Daishi | yea i was trying to be lazy now i cant be /: |
| 23:38.52 | robin_sz | cunter: you need to remember that on #debian we believe that Ubuntu users are preverts, the ooposite applies on #ubuntu |
| 23:38.53 | Daishi | then again ill probably just not convert the video now |
| 23:39.02 | magik | hai2u? What is this? |
| 23:39.07 | moret | I installed file-rc instead of sysv-rc and I am configuring /etc/runlevel.conf. My question is: if a daemon is not in /etc/runlevel.conf is it no managed at boot or halt and it start or stop with default? |
| 23:39.08 | litage | how would you run a command every 2 weeks (rather than on particular days)? |
| 23:39.22 | mike-e | what's etch? |
| 23:39.28 | Ronin | mike-e: testing |
| 23:39.34 | mike-e | oh |
| 23:39.35 | mike-e | = |
| 23:39.36 | mike-e | =( |
| 23:39.39 | magik | I can any ? |
| 23:39.42 | mike-e | i just need one package from etch |
| 23:39.45 | tarzeau | litage: while (sleep 14d); do command; done |
| 23:39.47 | magik | people please |
| 23:39.48 | magik | .... |
| 23:39.54 | robin_sz | yes, what? |
| 23:39.55 | Ronin | mike-e: not a good idea to mix and match releases |
| 23:40.09 | magik | polacy pomocy!! |
| 23:40.12 | mike-e | magik: the fish don't bite on midnight, resort to the flux capacitor in 2000bc |
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| 23:40.16 | jelly | robin_sz: bloody perverts on both sides! |
| 23:40.26 | robin_sz | jelly: I said prevert |
| 23:40.42 | moret | I installed file-rc instead of sysv-rc and I am configuring /etc/runlevel.conf. My question is: if a daemon is not in /etc/runlevel.conf is it no managed at boot or halt and it start or stop with default? |
| 23:40.47 | mike-e | is it possible to grab one application from etch? |
| 23:40.48 | robin_sz | cf. Beavis and Butthead |
| 23:40.56 | jelly | robin_sz: ahh, Jacques Prevert? |
| 23:40.59 | tarzeau | mike-e: depends on the application |
| 23:41.06 | tarzeau | mike-e: and its dependencies |
| 23:41.08 | mike-e | tarzeau: gaim 1.5.0 |
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| 23:41.14 | tarzeau | mike-e: you can try, no idea |
| 23:41.20 | tarzeau | but generally: |
| 23:41.22 | tarzeau | !bobbitt |
| 23:41.22 | litage | tarzeau: that's a bit wasteful, as the process is kept running forever |
| 23:41.23 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 23:41.24 | mike-e | tarzeau: how would I go about doing that? |
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| 23:41.32 | tarzeau | litage: which process? |
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| 23:42.09 | Ronin | mike-e: whats so special about gaim 1.5.0 anyhow? |
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| 23:42.55 | litage | tarzeau: a shell script i've written |
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| 23:43.19 | tarzeau | litage: do you think cron will stop it ? |
| 23:43.28 | mathias64 | moret: if you don't explicitly run something it won't run at all |
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| 23:43.43 | tarzeau | litage: you can always kill the process whenever you want, or just exit it when the time is right for it? |
| 23:44.08 | litage | tarzeau: sleeping for 14 days is a solution, just not an optimal one |
| 23:44.14 | moret | mathias64: thanks, so instead write "-" in start or stop I'll delete the line :P |
| 23:44.29 | mathias64 | moret: ? |
| 23:44.51 | tarzeau | litage: reading man crontab is the other |
| 23:45.32 | moret | mathias64: if I have "01 0,1,6 - /etc/init.d/xdm", and I don't want use the daemon, I can securyly delete de line right? |
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| 23:46.41 | mathias64 | moret: yes, you should be able to remove the line if you don't want that daemon to run. Or you could comment out the line |
| 23:46.55 | moret | mathias64: ok :P and, other question |
| 23:47.17 | moret | mathias64: default multiuser runlevel of debian is 2 right? |
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| 23:48.03 | mathias64 | moret: your default runlevel should be in /etc/inittab. It should be 2 |
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| 23:48.38 | robin_sz | apparently, it is 10.74 degrees C in my office 10 miles away |
| 23:48.42 | Araf | Well, Debian should have a recovery partition that the system automatically boots into upon failed fsck, with a running sshd |
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| 23:48.47 | moret | mathias64: oks, so, it means runlevels 3,4 and 5 don't start at boot, right? |
| 23:48.54 | azeem | Araf: you can make that yourself |
| 23:49.00 | azeem | Araf: or use a Live recovery CD |
| 23:49.00 | mathias64 | Araf: huh? why? |
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| 23:49.06 | jelly | Araf: yeah, with a clear root password. |
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| 23:49.15 | robin_sz | moret: it depends what run level you are on |
| 23:49.19 | mathias64 | moret: yes, 3, 4, and 5 are completely unimportant for 99% of all people |
| 23:49.22 | Araf | azeem, I'd have to phsyically travel there to use the CD. |
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| 23:49.38 | Araf | mathias64, Most newbies like 5 |
| 23:49.39 | moret | so, these runlevels only start if I want, right? |
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| 23:49.50 | outlaw84 | Is there any way to find out how much of the graphics cards memory is in use? have got an ATI radeon with x.org/linux drivers |
| 23:49.51 | moret | init 5 for example |
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| 23:50.00 | azeem | Araf: so you are an advanced user with a non-standard setup. If your box is remote you should take extra measures |
| 23:50.02 | Araf | mathias64, Well, my box in the other city has got a hung fsck. |
| 23:50.07 | mathias64 | moret: right. only one runlevel can be active at a time. |
| 23:50.11 | azeem | Araf: serial console |
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| 23:50.27 | Araf | azeem, I really need to get one of those :( |
| 23:50.32 | jelly | Araf: there are remote console solutions available for various amounts of $$. |
| 23:50.44 | moret | mathias64: aamm, so, multiuser runlevels only can be executed one of they |
| 23:51.13 | Durin | Araf: tried to set FSCKFIX=yes in /etc/default/rcS? |
| 23:51.15 | azeem | Araf: I sympathize with your issue (I also have a box which is down since Friday and I'm 400 km away), but it would be way too much hassle for 99.8% of all users to merit having this by default |
| 23:51.16 | mathias64 | moret: yes. the idea is that a server might have more than one ``role'' and so you reboot to a new runlevel to change to the other role. almost nobody uses this anymore |
| 23:51.21 | jelly | Araf: for example, HP servers have a virtual CD - you can boot from an iso from another machine. |
| 23:51.24 | robin_sz | jelly: or you string a RS232 twist cable to an adjacent box and run agetty |
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| 23:51.40 | moret | mathias64: aamm, thanks! :P |
| 23:51.44 | Araf | Durin, Yes, but why doesn't it get set to yes by default? |
| 23:51.48 | jelly | robin_sz: yeah, that works on a tight budget. ;-) |
| 23:52.07 | mathias64 | Araf: since it has a high chacne of damaging data? |
| 23:52.10 | Araf | azeem, Hassle? 99.8% of users wouldn't even notice, or they'd take notice, but not need to use it. |
| 23:52.21 | azeem | ... or being overlooked |
| 23:52.24 | Araf | mathias64, Well, damn, don't you backup? |
| 23:52.25 | Durin | Araf: dont know - i have had the same problem as you :-( |
| 23:52.26 | robin_sz | jelly: or even a lockdown freeBSD box with a 8 port serial card to feed an entire rack :) |
| 23:52.38 | jelly | robin_sz: no power button though. We have a bootable CD with grub in all the servers, and grub is configured with serial console. |
| 23:52.38 | mathias64 | I would prefer to NOT have fsck autofix errors. I would put the HD in another machine, mouted RO, if I wanted to try to diagnose errors. |
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| 23:53.23 | CryptoQuick | Is there a way to change empty partition sizes without reformatting the drive? |
| 23:53.34 | moret | mathias64: and another question please, at sysv-rc system if I delete a symlink in runlevel directory, when I update the package, it build symlink again, this happens with file-rc system? |
| 23:54.02 | outlaw84 | CryptoQuick: qtparted can resize for some partition types |
| 23:54.10 | mathias64 | moret: I don't know, I haven't used file-rc in years. |
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| 23:54.34 | Araf | mathias64, Do you often do that proceedure with the system volume? |
| 23:54.51 | moret | mathias64: amm, oks, thanks so :P |
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| 23:55.11 | CryptoQuick | outlaw84: Thanks; I'm trying to dual boot a Mac OS X system and I assigned too much space to my linux home directory... Linux is much smaller than OS X! |
| 23:55.25 | Araf | mathias64, Seems to me that it's a heck alot faster to just get it to auto-fix everything, and if it goes wrong, _then_ fix it. |
| 23:55.28 | mathias64 | Araf: if the HD is having problems, and it is just the root filesystem, I would probably change to a new HD and reinstall from backup. If it was the home partition, I might put it in a new computer to see if I could save anything since the last backup |
| 23:55.33 | robin_sz | oh, OK, so deviant doesnt have agetty, what is the serial console package then??? |
| 23:55.36 | robin_sz | fgetty? |
| 23:55.47 | Araf | mathias64, Yes, I'd probably do the same. |
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| 23:55.57 | mathias64 | Araf: if auto-fix goes wrong, it could just erase all your files. Not really what I was looking for. |
| 23:57.05 | mathias64 | the defaults for fsck tend to be very conservative for that reason. You have to go out of your way to choose the less safe options. |
| 23:57.07 | Araf | mathias64, But... you'd probably be able to do the task from the same system, as the root fs is still fine and should still boot. |
| 23:57.31 | jelly | robin_sz: the normal getty works here on sarge: T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 115200 vt100 |
| 23:57.52 | Durin | mathias64: i agree - but if there are about 50 domains running on it i do all to have it up and running (even with bad disk until i can replace) ... |
| 23:57.56 | Araf | mathias64, Perhaps, but the linux fhs is setout such that it should still boot even if every partition except for / (including /bin, /etc, /sbin, /lib and others) are stuffed. |
| 23:58.05 | Araf | mathias64, So, why doesn't it boot? :/ |
| 23:58.25 | robin_sz | Araf: maybe its broken? |
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| 23:59.17 | mathias64 | Araf: it's not true that it will boot if /sbin/init isn't found. In practice, you need /bin and /sbin, and maybe /lib. The system ought to boot if only /usr is hosed. |
