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| 00:00.31 | alexandre | Alguem do brasil? |
| 00:00.34 | beardy | DrNach: Is it more places than Firefox you need to see those languages? Some programs have their own language settings and so on, some rely on the toolkit if they are desktop specific, check your desktops configuration, if you're running KDE or GNOME. |
| 00:00.35 | freeziekat | okay, changed my net interfaces file, how do I restart networking services so it uses the updated file? |
| 00:00.38 | beardy | !br |
| 00:00.38 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 00:00.45 | freeziekat | in debian |
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| 00:02.43 | beardy | freeziekat: /etc/init.d/networking restart (it will bring down all interfaces, and hopefully bring them up again) |
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| 00:03.03 | sisixsisi | anyone knows how to change the timeout for ssh connections ? |
| 00:03.59 | freeziekat | I added 2 addys to the interfaces file and now it says this |
| 00:04.10 | freeziekat | Reconfiguring network interfaces...SIOCSIFFLAGS: Cannot assign requested address |
| 00:04.16 | freeziekat | when I restart the services |
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| 00:07.13 | freeziekat | nm, fixed it |
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| 00:07.17 | freeziekat | I had the wrong gateway |
| 00:07.22 | freeziekat | diff subnet :) |
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| 00:07.49 | Fujoor | is there any very simple msn clone for linux? not some heavy stuff like gaim, but perhaps similiar to miranda on the pc |
| 00:08.14 | Fujoor | didnt mean msn clone, but a im that supports msn, can be textmode aswell |
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| 00:10.13 | spatulasnout | I'm reading section C.4.4. of http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en which says, "Now you've got a real Debian system, though rather lean, on disk. Chroot into it:" |
| 00:10.18 | spatulasnout | and then it says: # LANG= chroot /mnt/debinst /bin/bash |
| 00:10.33 | spatulasnout | and I'm wondering if the LANG= part is supposed to be there? |
| 00:10.37 | peterS | spatulasnout: yes |
| 00:10.45 | peterS | with the space. |
| 00:10.50 | spatulasnout | wow interesting |
| 00:10.55 | peterS | it ensures that the LANG variable is set to an empty value |
| 00:11.02 | spatulasnout | ohhhhhhhhhhhh |
| 00:11.04 | spatulasnout | hehe |
| 00:11.16 | spatulasnout | thanks! :) |
| 00:11.31 | spatulasnout | i mistakenly thought it was assigning LANG the result of the chroot :) |
| 00:11.36 | peterS | I haven't read the context of that doc so I don't know why it expects you to have the LANG variable set incorrectly. but that's a common syntax at any rate |
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| 00:19.00 | FourierSeries | "chirp" |
| 00:19.32 | Mixi | Hey; What's the best FTP Package except pure-ftpd? I installed ftpd but it work (tried to telnet) 21 failed and can't find a start file for it. |
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| 00:19.39 | Mixi | won't work* |
| 00:20.24 | FourierSeries | some thing like /etc/init.d/ftpd start ? |
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| 00:20.29 | bbrazil | Mixi: best is quite relative. I've used proftpd on debian in the past |
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| 00:22.05 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys so i installed a program called kxdocker using dpkg and it didnt give any errors. how do i know how to start it cause i tried doing kxd and Kxd and KX then tab from the command line but its not in there |
| 00:22.24 | lpb-oberon | hi what do i have to do to set my hwclock to GMT? |
| 00:22.26 | LinuxNIT-laptop | i also looked in /usr/bin and didnt see it |
| 00:22.36 | amphi | LinuxNIT-laptop: dpkg -L <package_name> to see what files the package installed |
| 00:23.42 | Mixi | FourierSeries: There is no init file for ftpd; I've looked at the directory and "locate ftp" no restart file anywhere. |
| 00:24.00 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ok thanks amphi |
| 00:24.06 | LinuxNIT-laptop | ill chekc it ou |
| 00:24.07 | LinuxNIT-laptop | t |
| 00:24.19 | lpb-oberon | # Set UTC=yes if your system clock is set to UTC (GMT), and UTC=no if not. |
| 00:24.19 | lpb-oberon | UTC=yes |
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| 00:24.36 | lpb-oberon | thats in my /etc/default/rcS |
| 00:24.41 | blondie | set it in the BIOS |
| 00:24.44 | blondie | to: |
| 00:24.47 | blondie | Thu Dec 22 00:24:46 GMT 2005 |
| 00:24.55 | FourierSeries | Mixi: do an "ls /etc/init.d/" and look for something with "ftp" |
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| 00:25.27 | lpb-oberon | Current default timezone: 'Europe/Berlin'. |
| 00:25.28 | lpb-oberon | Local time is now: Thu Dec 22 01:25:13 CET 2005. |
| 00:25.28 | lpb-oberon | Universal Time is now: Thu Dec 22 00:25:13 UTC 2005. |
| 00:25.34 | lpb-oberon | but |
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| 00:25.37 | Mixi | FourierSeries I've done that' I'm not that of a N00b on Linux haha. |
| 00:25.44 | lpb-oberon | oot@obi:/home/oberon$ hwclock |
| 00:25.44 | lpb-oberon | Do 22 Dez 2005 02:25:39 CET -0.239314 seconds |
| 00:25.44 | Mixi | I've removed it and installed proftpd |
| 00:25.57 | lpb-oberon | wtf?! |
| 00:26.14 | blondie | well |
| 00:26.15 | blondie | erm |
| 00:26.17 | FourierSeries | Mixi: there ya go. |
| 00:26.24 | Guerin | Mixi: ftpd is started from inetd |
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| 00:26.38 | Mixi | That would probably be why then |
| 00:26.44 | Mixi | lol Thanks Guerin :) |
| 00:26.48 | Guerin | Mixi: this information is documented. |
| 00:26.56 | blondie | I don't know what the hwclock thing does |
| 00:27.01 | dvs | How come MPlayer changed the font in almost every single program in X? |
| 00:27.02 | Guerin | Mixi: if you want an ftpd, I recommend vsftpd, which is much easier to configure and arguably more secure than pro |
| 00:27.04 | LinuxNIT-laptop | well amphi i found it but it crashes lol |
| 00:27.07 | LinuxNIT-laptop | thanks anyway |
| 00:27.17 | amphi | lpb-oberon: hwclock --systohc --utc perhaps |
| 00:27.20 | blondie | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.39 | amphi | LinuxNIT-laptop: run it under gdb ;) |
| 00:27.48 | lpb-oberon | amblin: will my system keep the changes? |
| 00:28.44 | amphi | lpb-oberon: yes - I believe hwclock is run at shutdown to set the cmos clock to the system clock with the specified utc arg |
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| 00:29.16 | bbrazil | lpb-oberon: /etc/defauls/rcS iirc |
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| 00:30.07 | LinuxNIT-laptop | amphi, whats gdb ? |
| 00:30.21 | LinuxNIT-laptop | oh |
| 00:30.22 | LinuxNIT-laptop | nn |
| 00:30.24 | LinuxNIT-laptop | nm |
| 00:30.47 | streuner | !info gdb |
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| 00:33.37 | sphenxes | !info gdb |
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| 00:35.15 | g3brown | Installing Sarge w/2.6 kernel. At the initial install screen I ALT-F2 to console and I'm trying to mount the floppy. Why isn't the floppy under /dev/fd0 or something? I can mknod /dev/fd0 b 2 0 but I really don't know what that means. |
| 00:35.54 | hammerabi | presumably because the floppy modules aren't loaded |
| 00:36.02 | hammerabi | or it's in a weird place due to the Magic Of DevFS |
| 00:36.12 | stew | g3brown: the installer uses devfs so its probably something like /dev/floppy/0 or something |
| 00:37.02 | g3brown | stew: I think I see it now... '/dev/fb/0' Thanks. |
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| 00:37.22 | dvs | g3brown: I think that's the framebuffer device |
| 00:37.29 | amphi | g3brown: is that the framebuffer ? ;) |
| 00:38.07 | g3brown | dvs: yeah. don't think that was floppy |
| 00:39.30 | aubergine | Have you patched your Kernel for yourself or do you use a standrd image? |
| 00:39.49 | g3brown | Arrgg, I can't find it. |
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| 00:40.28 | hammerabi | have you proceeded far enough into the installer that the floppy module is loaded? |
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| 00:40.57 | ohad | hi, i know this is not #mrtg, is it possible to monitor bandwidth for public ip's? or does it *have* to be local? |
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| 00:42.26 | hammerabi | uh |
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| 00:42.35 | hammerabi | you can monitor anything you have an SNMP feed for |
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| 00:43.03 | meriad | snmp traps rule :> |
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| 00:45.00 | typewriter | is it better to install mysql4.0 or myssql4.1? |
| 00:45.12 | typewriter | as far security/stability/compability goes |
| 00:45.24 | meriad | mysql 5 |
| 00:45.30 | meriad | if you're really concerned with security :) |
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| 00:45.39 | typewriter | its not a deb pkg |
| 00:45.41 | meriad | sure it is |
| 00:45.45 | meriad | its not supported |
| 00:45.46 | meriad | !dpkg mysql-5 |
| 00:45.57 | meriad | dpkg explain mysql 5 |
| 00:46.01 | meriad | dpkg explain mysql5 |
| 00:46.03 | meriad | erm |
| 00:46.05 | tvc | i thought dpkg is obsolete?! |
| 00:46.05 | typewriter | well i am just deciding between 4.0 & 4.1 |
| 00:46.08 | meriad | dpkg help |
| 00:46.16 | beardy | meriad: Stop it. |
| 00:46.16 | meriad | dpkg help mysql |
| 00:46.21 | meriad | beardy- ? |
| 00:46.23 | hammerabi | dpkg: mysql5 |
| 00:46.29 | meriad | there we go :) |
| 00:46.29 | typewriter | i mean i would go with 4.1, but 4.0 seems to be more 'default' i dont know why |
| 00:46.30 | hammerabi | meriad: /msg the bot if you have no idea what you're doing |
| 00:46.45 | meriad | hammerabi- make me |
| 00:46.48 | meriad | :> |
| 00:46.54 | beardy | meriad: /msg dpkg listkeys mysql |
| 00:46.57 | hammerabi | ... |
| 00:46.59 | meriad | beardy- alright |
| 00:46.59 | typewriter | ... |
| 00:47.01 | meriad | beardy- thank you |
| 00:47.06 | meriad | hammerabi- i was just funnin ya |
| 00:47.08 | typewriter | any answer to my question instead of mysql5? |
| 00:47.12 | meriad | i didnt mean to spam the question |
| 00:47.24 | meriad | typewriter- well i was trying to have dpkg tell you a link to unsupported deb packages =] |
| 00:47.29 | meriad | typewriter- but im not allowed to spam heeh |
| 00:47.31 | meriad | dpkg: mysql5 |
| 00:47.32 | typewriter | i dont want mysql5 |
| 00:47.39 | meriad | typewriter- yes you do |
| 00:47.42 | meriad | typewriter- seriusly |
| 00:47.46 | typewriter | no i dont |
| 00:47.47 | meriad | mysql 4/4.1 is obsolete |
| 00:47.52 | meriad | do you even know about mysql? |
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| 00:47.56 | typewriter | ill want it when the debian team puts it in stable |
| 00:48.01 | meriad | oh christ |
| 00:48.02 | meriad | whatever |
| 00:48.04 | meriad | newb |
| 00:48.07 | meriad | later |
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| 00:48.20 | tvc | typewriter: well, maybe before 2010 |
| 00:48.24 | dvs | typewriter: That'll be last next year |
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| 00:48.38 | typewriter | thats great because that isnt even what i was asking about |
| 00:48.43 | dvs | s/last/late |
| 00:48.43 | typewriter | i am talking about mysql4 and 4.1! |
| 00:48.59 | dondelelcaro | typewriter: use whichever version is in stable if you're going to be using it in production. |
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| 00:49.06 | typewriter | both are in stable |
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| 00:49.15 | typewriter | but 4.0 seems to be the default pkg |
| 00:49.26 | typewriter | so does that mean 4.0 is better in regards to stability,security,compability |
| 00:49.27 | FourierSeries | then go with that |
| 00:49.33 | hammerabi | I doubt that is the case |
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| 00:49.52 | dondelelcaro | typewriter: the 4.1 version that is in stable is an alpha version; I'm not totally sure why it was even released. |
| 00:49.55 | Hoxzer | where is wines configure file located? |
| 00:50.03 | typewriter | k, thanks dondelelcaro |
| 00:50.07 | FourierSeries | Ohhh! |
| 00:50.18 | dondelelcaro | !+info mysql-server-4.1 sarge |
| 00:50.19 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 00:50.25 | typewriter | so i realize what that 'a' in 4.1.11a-4sarge2 is now |
| 00:50.26 | FourierSeries | Hoxzer: what version of wine? |
| 00:50.26 | michael | is it possible to run kde and gnome on one and the same system, so that users can chose? |
| 00:50.30 | dpkg | mysql-server-4.1: (mysql database server binaries), section misc, is optional. Version: 4.1.11a-4sarge2 (sarge), Packaged size: 14215 kB, Installed size: 30084 kB |
| 00:50.51 | Hoxzer | Fourier: 0.9.3 |
| 00:50.59 | hammerabi | michael: sure |
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| 00:51.14 | michael | hammerabi: but how do I integrate a kde session to GDM? |
| 00:51.32 | botsy | hi all |
| 00:51.43 | Hoxzer | FourierSeries: so? |
| 00:51.47 | botsy | what's the role of the folder /etc/opt ? |
| 00:51.50 | hammerabi | michael: no idea |
| 00:51.52 | dondelelcaro | michael: just use the Debian session, and have your .xsession run exec startkde |
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| 00:52.35 | FourierSeries | Hoxzer: rooting thru me system .. wait one ... |
| 00:52.36 | dvs | michael: You should be able to choose KDE from GDM when you log in. |
| 00:52.47 | Hoxzer | FourierSeries: will do |
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| 00:53.06 | dondelelcaro | dvs: they use totally different session settings; I don't remember kde installing a session for gdm. |
| 00:53.44 | dvs | dondelelcaro: When my computer starts up, I can choose "KDE" from the Session menu. |
| 00:53.44 | Tortel | AHH! |
| 00:53.54 | Tortel | * debhelper sets channel limit to 666 <=-WERE SCREWED! |
| 00:54.03 | Tortel | lol, thats goin as a quote |
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| 00:54.16 | beardy | botsy: man hier |
| 00:54.48 | drocko | hi. have an application that i'd like to install but it does not have a debian package. I just want to build a package to install on my system only. I can't seem to find a concise tutorial on it. Can anyone point me to one? |
| 00:55.08 | shaizen | make; make install ? |
| 00:55.12 | karsten | drocko: You want to create a deb, or you want to just build from source? |
| 00:55.23 | karsten | drocko: what shaizen said, or alien. |
| 00:55.27 | drocko | karsten : i'd like to create a deb |
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| 00:55.40 | drocko | i should use alien to make the deb? |
| 00:55.46 | dondelelcaro | !+find Sessions/KDE |
| 00:55.46 | hammerabi | drocko: what is it? |
| 00:55.48 | dpkg | Updating debian files... please wait. |
| 00:55.53 | karsten | drocko: you can do that roughly w/ alien from a tarball. Or you could read the package maintainers' guid.e... |
| 00:56.00 | FourierSeries | Hoxzer: I may not understand the question. There is a bunch of "registry" stuff under ".wine" in my home dir. What exactly are you trying to configure? |
| 00:56.02 | mathias64 | drocko: you can likely use the `checkinstall' program |
| 00:56.04 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'Sessions/KDE' returned no results. |
| 00:56.07 | karsten | !tell drocko about alien |
| 00:56.21 | dondelelcaro | drocko: better to make a real package by compiling from source than using alien. |
| 00:56.22 | drocko | hmm |
| 00:56.25 | dondelelcaro | !tell drocko -about nm guide |
| 00:56.28 | Daishi | has anyone had a problem with DRI not working with a radeon card after updating to xorg? |
| 00:56.29 | mathias64 | mathias64 |
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| 00:56.40 | karsten | What's the x.org config factoid? |
| 00:56.42 | mathias64 | Daishi: i heard it doesn't work with amd64 |
| 00:56.47 | Daishi | i submitted a bug report but somehow i feel that the problem isnt that deep |
| 00:57.00 | Daishi | mathias64: thats fine for me im x86 |
| 00:57.04 | drocko | !tell drocko about checkinstall |
| 00:57.07 | beardy | !drxx karsten |
| 00:57.07 | dpkg | karsten: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 00:57.07 | mathias64 | drocko: basically, you run checkinstall instead of make install, and it makes a package. |
| 00:57.28 | drocko | mathias64 : so i do configure, make, and then checkinstall? |
| 00:57.29 | karsten | The configurator is stalling at "Attempt to auto-detect video hardware". Running single-user at present. |
| 00:57.30 | Daishi | yea a quick and dirty package |
| 00:57.31 | Hoxzer | FourierSeries: well, for example this guide http://patrick.spacesurfer.com/ie_wine_install.html requires editing of .wine/config however it doesn't exist ;/ |
| 00:57.44 | karsten | beardy: Danke, not sure that's quite enough. |
| 00:57.50 | shaizen | can someone help me find libpthread for libc5 :/ sigh |
| 00:57.52 | mathias64 | draco. yes, pretty much. there's an example at http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/147 |
| 00:57.54 | Hoxzer | but I can configure wine using winetools so it has to exist somewhere |
| 00:57.56 | FourierSeries | Hoxzer: Ah, ok. lemmie look again ... |
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| 00:58.23 | drocko | mathias64 : ah thanks very much |
| 00:58.26 | drocko | thanks to everyone else too |
| 00:58.38 | dondelelcaro | shaizen: why in the world are you looking for that? |
| 00:58.55 | FourierSeries | O_O |
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| 00:59.01 | dondelelcaro | shaizen: that's likely to be so buggy now as to be practically unusable. |
| 00:59.05 | Daishi | on a side not does anyone know if reportbug does secure smtp? i'd like to use it with my gmail account |
| 00:59.09 | FourierSeries | ie6 *does* work in wine? |
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| 00:59.24 | FourierSeries | Hoxzer: hold on .. still reading ... |
| 00:59.27 | dvs | FourierSeries: But why? |
| 00:59.34 | beardy | Indeed. |
| 00:59.36 | Daishi | FourierSeries: yes |
| 00:59.39 | Daishi | not very stably |
| 00:59.40 | Daishi | but yes |
| 01:00.01 | shaizen | because im to lazy to build mysql |
| 01:00.04 | FourierSeries | Daishi: Holy #@EWRU |
| 01:00.05 | amphi | Hoxzer: you might be better off just running some version of windows under qemu |
| 01:00.16 | Daishi | FourierSeries: ? |
| 01:00.22 | karsten | FourierSeries: MSIE 6, it's the last freestanding release. You could also do a Windows install under qemu. |
| 01:00.39 | Hoxzer | amphi: I need ie because mail2peer requires it |
| 01:00.54 | dondelelcaro | shaizen: this is Debian. Install whatever version of mysql you need. |
| 01:00.56 | amphi | Hoxzer: what's wrong with win32/qemu ? |
| 01:01.10 | Hoxzer | :D sounds traights |
| 01:01.12 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: Ok, the config file this site is talking about is "~/.wine/config" which means "/home/your_user_name/.wine/config" |
| 01:01.15 | amphi | Hoxzer: <=w2k at least is supported IIRC |
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| 01:01.22 | Hoxzer | *strange |
| 01:01.44 | amphi | Hoxzer: qemu.org, if you're interested |
| 01:01.55 | Hoxzer | well lets see |
| 01:02.05 | Hoxzer | FourierSeries: if you find it lett me know |
| 01:02.07 | amphi | Hoxzer: it's well worth using the unfree kernel module, BTW |
| 01:02.14 | shaizen | donde i ran make and it got stuck in a configure loop lol, and i need to rebuild mysql in embedded server mode not the normal one.. |
| 01:02.19 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: athough ... I kinda notice that is does not exist under *my* .wine dir... |
| 01:02.38 | nixie | Hoaxter: which wine version? |
| 01:02.46 | amphi | Hoxzer: vde.sf.net is also useful IMHO, for networking qemu guest OSes |
| 01:02.48 | nixie | probably 0.9+? use wine regedit32 |
| 01:02.58 | dondelelcaro | shaizen: how tiny? in any case, if that's what you need to do, #mysql is the place to talk to, not #debian. |
| 01:03.05 | nixie | the config file is deprecated |
| 01:03.09 | ice_1963 | i love 3d desktop :0) |
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| 01:04.08 | ditt0 | hey, why are there 14 cd images to install debian, when i only used one and now i can login? |
| 01:04.49 | bbrazil | ditt0: the most popular stuff is on the first CD |
| 01:04.53 | dvs | ditt0: You can take as many as you want. You can install the rest by internet |
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| 01:05.07 | allix | hi |
| 01:05.14 | allix | it was unsucessfull |
| 01:05.16 | ditt0 | thanks gys....i installed linux, so can i just boot from the other cds and they wil linstall? |
| 01:05.29 | bbrazil | ditt0: apt-cdrom |
| 01:05.30 | dvs | ditt0: Hell, there are CD images that are smaller than the first CD. |
| 01:05.37 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: Ok, I do have an idea however .. there *is* a .wine/drive_c/windows/wine.inf file ... |
| 01:05.43 | ditt0 | bbrazil: thanks |
| 01:05.54 | bbrazil | ditt0: asuming you did download and burn all the cds |
| 01:06.02 | allix | sk8lin: no adaptor found |
| 01:06.06 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: there is a version section; but, not a DllOverride section .. |
| 01:06.12 | allix | fatel ... |
| 01:06.14 | bbrazil | ditt0: if you have a good net connection apt-setup |
| 01:06.15 | ditt0 | bbrazil: yes i am currently holding all 14 |
| 01:06.16 | nixie | FourierSeries: that has been replaced. use winecfg |
| 01:06.30 | ditt0 | weell this computer that im installing linux on isnt connected |
| 01:06.37 | mathias64 | allix: you mean sk98lin? |
| 01:06.38 | ditt0 | but i have the cds, will it be a problem/? |
| 01:06.44 | allix | yeah |
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| 01:06.54 | dvs | ditt0: no problem |
| 01:06.55 | bbrazil | ditt0: no, you just won't get security updates automatically |
| 01:06.59 | mathias64 | allix: does lsmod | grep sk98lin show the module already installed? |
| 01:07.05 | allix | the drivers on the motherboard cd should do the trick |
| 01:07.09 | allix | nope |
| 01:07.16 | alexandro | some one can help me! |
| 01:07.19 | nixie | Libraries tab |
| 01:07.21 | mathias64 | allix: this is an asus a8v, right? |
| 01:07.22 | allix | but there are in bzip2 format |
| 01:07.33 | mathias64 | you ought to have bunzip on the base install. |
| 01:07.37 | allix | asus a8v-e se |
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| 01:07.46 | solemnwarning | hi all |
| 01:07.46 | allix | its not |
| 01:07.51 | allix | also i need gcc |
| 01:07.58 | allix | which is not there |
| 01:08.01 | mathias64 | allix: try modprobe forcedeth |
| 01:08.01 | bbrazil | allix: bunzip2 |
| 01:08.10 | solemnwarning | are there any wysiwyg html editors in apt that make html4.0 valid pages? |
| 01:08.12 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: AHA! looks like nixie's got it. Fire up "winecfg" and look in there. |
| 01:08.13 | allix | bunzip2 is not there |
| 01:08.58 | alexandro | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:08.58 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: there is a setting for windows "version" and a tab for "libraries" which I think is what will be needed for the dll overrides .. |
| 01:08.58 | allix | it looks like i need the full cds |
| 01:09.14 | nixie | hoaxster: you should specify the iexplorer.exe as an app, and then set the specific dlls in the libraries tab |
| 01:09.14 | FourierSeries | interesting ... |
| 01:09.26 | mathias64 | allix: can you insert the forcedeth module? I installed on an a8v with just the etch netinst cd. |
| 01:09.29 | FourierSeries | nixie: TY! |
| 01:09.31 | allix | in the mean time, can i unistall debian ? |
| 01:09.46 | nixie | its pretty neat |
| 01:09.51 | Orlino | how do I find out whether my power supply will suit a different board? |
| 01:09.53 | nixie | i run World of Warcraft in wine |
| 01:10.06 | allix | remeber mine is a8v-e se not just a8v |
| 01:10.44 | allix | so i have a base debian thats useless |
| 01:10.52 | ditt0 | ok so i did apt-cdrom but not cdrom drive will not open |
| 01:11.08 | FourierSeries | nixie: have you gotten IE6 ( or whatever version ) to run? ( and no, I can not imagine why anyone would want to ... be a nice joke to pull tho' ) |
| 01:11.21 | nixie | FourierSeries: i dont run IE. period. |
| 01:11.24 | dvs | allix: No, you can install other packages using aptitude |
| 01:11.42 | mathias64 | allix: did the forcedeth module insert ok? |
| 01:11.50 | FourierSeries | nixie: same here; but, damm this could be insanely funny. |
| 01:12.00 | nixie | FourierSeries: im pretty sure it can be done |
| 01:12.01 | allix | dvs :i cannot install other packages without a connection |
| 01:12.20 | allix | mathias64: i have to reboot to find out |
| 01:12.23 | FourierSeries | nixie: anyways TY again. |
| 01:12.26 | allix | it proberly won't |
| 01:12.34 | mathias64 | allix: why? just type modprobe forcedeth at a prompt as root |
| 01:12.38 | FourierSeries | Hoaxter: do whut nixie said and you should be good to go. |
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| 01:12.50 | allix | in slackware? |
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| 01:13.34 | mathias64 | allix: ah. yes, you will have to reboot. The http://www.linux-tested.com/results/asus_a8v-e_se.html page claims you have a marvell nic, which should be the forcedeth driver |
| 01:13.53 | allix | ok |
| 01:13.56 | mathias64 | what nic module are you using in slackware? |
| 01:13.56 | Hoxzer | amphi: do you know any howtos for me to make qemu to emulate windows? |
| 01:14.08 | allix | how do i find out? |
| 01:14.15 | mathias64 | lsmod |
| 01:14.18 | allix | ok |
| 01:14.28 | mathias64 | you can put it in pastebin if you want me to look through it |
| 01:14.40 | allix | ok |
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| 01:16.03 | amphi | Hoxzer: there are some docs at the site IIRC, and also various FAQs scattered about the web; also #qemu here on freenode |
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| 01:16.59 | amphi | Hoxzer: basically, you create a disk image file, fire up qemu with the cdrom device pointed at the physical cdrom or an iso image, and install onto the hd image |
| 01:17.07 | Hoxzer | amphi: ok, does this require much hdd space? |
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| 01:17.25 | Hoxzer | ok, |
| 01:17.30 | Hoxzer | lets try ;/ |
| 01:17.31 | amphi | Hoxzer: whatever you want/need to give the guest os |
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| 01:18.19 | allix | mathias64: http://pastebin.com/474460 |
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| 01:18.38 | mathias64 | allix: it says you have sk98lin loaded... |
| 01:18.59 | allix | i know |
| 01:19.18 | allix | its from the mboard cd |
| 01:19.20 | mathias64 | allix: but sk98lin won't insert under debian? |
| 01:19.54 | allix | does it make a diffrence? |
| 01:19.54 | allix | no |
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| 01:19.54 | mathias64 | allix: apparently it does make a difference. What kernel version is the slackware one? |
| 01:20.17 | allix | 2.4.29 |
| 01:20.23 | bucky | sk98lin wasn't in the kernel until 2.6.11 |
| 01:20.36 | allix | oh i thought u mean what i have |
| 01:20.50 | mathias64 | allix: are you using a 2.6 kernel in debian? If so, which kernel? what does uname -a say under slackware? |
| 01:20.54 | allix | yes |
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| 01:21.20 | allix | Linux allix 2.4.29 #21 Thu Jan 20 17:11:39 PST 2005 i686 unknown unknown GNU/Linux |
| 01:21.43 | allix | i used the motherboard drivers, which re-compiled the kernal |
| 01:21.46 | mathias64 | allix: can you mount the debian partition under slackware to check which kernel is over there? |
| 01:22.02 | allix | how would i? |
| 01:22.13 | mathias64 | allix: do you know which disk and partition you installed debian on? |
| 01:22.20 | allix | yeah |
| 01:22.29 | allix | sd07 |
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| 01:22.39 | mathias64 | allix: mount /dev/sd07 /mnt |
| 01:22.46 | mathias64 | then cd /mnt/boot |
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| 01:22.51 | mathias64 | and type ls to see what's there |
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| 01:23.30 | allix | i must specify filesytem |
| 01:23.30 | mathias64 | if it's 2.6.14 you have what I have |
| 01:23.35 | mathias64 | use ext2 |
| 01:23.45 | mathias64 | mount -t ext2 /dev/sd07 /mnt |
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| 01:25.13 | ditt0 | o ook, soo doing apt-cdrom add would be the correct command for the rest of the 13 install images? |
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| 01:26.07 | allix | its not working |
| 01:26.07 | biggeorgiafan14 | hello |
| 01:26.25 | mathias64 | allix: ok, reboot into debian, then run uname -a and tell me what you see. |
| 01:26.33 | allix | its proberly not the correct partition |
| 01:26.39 | allix | ok |
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| 01:37.05 | allix | hi |
| 01:37.11 | allix | the net is running slow here |
| 01:37.12 | solemnwarning | ive got gtk installed |
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| 01:37.14 | allix | for some reason |
| 01:37.17 | allix | anyway |
| 01:37.33 | solemnwarning | why does the mozilla configure script say it cant find gtk-config? |
| 01:37.40 | allix | it says 2.6.8.11 amd64 -generic #1 |
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| 01:38.06 | allix | maybe i use a diffrent one as u mentioned before |
| 01:38.08 | mathias64 | allix: OK. that explains a lot. So when you type modprobe sk98lin, it says that there is no such module, right? |
| 01:38.15 | allix | yeah |
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| 01:38.35 | mathias64 | mathias64: you have dpkg. right? run /usr/bin/dpkg --help to make sure |
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| 01:39.10 | allix | so should i try the other module u mentioned ? |
| 01:39.17 | Tortel | are you talking to yourself? |
| 01:39.50 | Tortel | cause thats not good according to my shrink... |
| 01:39.50 | mathias64 | allix: you can try it, but I think you have a sk98lin card since slackware uses the sk98lin driver. |
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| 01:40.05 | allix | so why does it not work? |
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| 01:40.31 | allix | what was the other driver called? |
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| 01:41.32 | mathias64 | allix: you can try it, but I think you have a sk98lin card since slackware uses the sk98lin driver. |
| 01:41.43 | mathias64 | mathias64: the other driver is forcedeth |
| 01:41.52 | allix | i know what your saying, but u mentioend a website where u found that |
| 01:42.21 | mathias64 | allix: I suggest using a newer netinst cd that has a 2.6.12 or 2.6.14 kernel on it. |
| 01:42.44 | allix | what do i do with the partition thats made? |
| 01:43.06 | mathias64 | allix: you can overwrite it with the new cd. |
| 01:43.29 | allix | ok |
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| 01:43.48 | allix | that will be the 3rd cd today |
| 01:44.11 | allix | did u have problems with that version? |
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| 01:44.29 | allix | 2.6.8.11 |
| 01:44.33 | mathias64 | allix: I used a newer version to begin with. |
| 01:44.52 | mathias64 | there is a netinst image at http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ that you can try. |
| 01:45.09 | mathias64 | allix: I read up on all these things before I tried installing, so I made sure to use the newer kernel. |
| 01:45.23 | drivamgr2006 | Hello all. You have a completely new debian user here, so please be gentle! :) - I jut did a net install of Debian 3.1 and the system is refusing to boot into itself. I get a message during boot - Kernel Panic: Attempted to kill init, and the system stops dead. Any ideas on what I can do, and if that install is recoverable? |
| 01:45.39 | allix | my motherboard proberly wasn't tested with the version i have installed |
| 01:45.46 | allix | hence its not working |
| 01:46.07 | bucky | allix: here's a sarge install cd with 2.6.14 |
| 01:46.08 | bucky | http://debcentral.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?forum=6&post_id=526#forumpost526 |
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| 01:46.18 | allix | that link doesn't seem to work |
| 01:46.20 | mathias64 | bucky: thanks |
| 01:46.37 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: what does it say before that. anything about unable to mount a root partition? |
| 01:46.52 | mathias64 | allix: I just loaded http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ |
| 01:47.17 | allix | now it loaded |
| 01:47.23 | drivamgr2006 | it says something about unable to find pivot / root or something like that. |
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| 01:47.29 | mathias64 | allix: what loaded? |
| 01:47.30 | allix | my connection is slow, there proberly maintence |
| 01:47.32 | allix | the page |
| 01:47.38 | dd | www.brasilnoticias.com |
| 01:47.42 | allix | its almost 2am here |
| 01:47.51 | drivamgr2006 | I lost the message since i needed to reload my other distro to talk to you |
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| 01:47.59 | dd | www.brasilnoticias.com |
| 01:48.12 | amphi | dd: pardon? |
| 01:48.22 | drivamgr2006 | amphi: troll? |
| 01:48.26 | dd | start |
| 01:48.27 | allix | i using my brothers cds |
| 01:48.29 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: that's ok. you are installing on an x86 computer, right? Does it just ahve on e IDE hard disk and no other hard discs? |
| 01:48.35 | amphi | drivamgr2006: spammer, I guess |
| 01:48.38 | dd | alguem fala portugês? |
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| 01:48.53 | fbi | !tell dd about br |
| 01:48.57 | fbi | tengulre: don't irc as root |
| 01:49.00 | allix | it says 2.6.12 |
| 01:49.07 | allix | not 2.6.14 |
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| 01:49.31 | allix | is that ok to use? |
| 01:49.32 | mathias64 | allix: 2.6.12 should be ok. the other person said that the sk98lin driver is in 2.6.12. |
| 01:49.34 | drivamgr2006 | No mathias64 - its got 2 ide hard disks and an external usb hdd on which debian is installed |
| 01:49.43 | dd | alguem fala portugês? |
| 01:49.48 | dd | www.brasilnoticias.com |
| 01:49.50 | dd | www.brasilnoticias.com |
| 01:49.52 | dd | www.brasilnoticias.com |
| 01:49.52 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: ah ha. |
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| 01:50.52 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: we will need to figure out where the boot process is going awry |
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| 01:51.07 | drivamgr2006 | I have hda (30gb Maxtor) hdb (20gb Maxtor) and sda (300gb External Crossfire Smartdisk) |
| 01:51.30 | drivamgr2006 | debian is on sda |
| 01:51.45 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: you will need to boot into the broken system again and not the following things: 1. does it say uncompressing linux. 2. does it mount an initrd or initramfs or something like that 3. does it fail to load root (cannot find root fs) |
| 01:51.54 | mathias64 | not = note |
| 01:52.20 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: I'll hang around |
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| 01:52.37 | drivamgr2006 | I can tell you 2 of those now, Yes it does say its uncompressing linux, and it does mount an initrd/img |
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| 01:53.00 | drivamgr2006 | as for the 3rd one, I will go back and check it. |
| 01:53.08 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: OK. that's great. When you installed debian, did you put the kernel on the usb disk? that is, is the debian system loading its kernel from the usb disk? |
| 01:53.15 | drivamgr2006 | yes t is |
| 01:53.20 | drivamgr2006 | ^it is |
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| 01:53.46 | dhp_saturn_v4 | I have tried export DISPLAY="localhost:0.0" and just :0 within console, with the logged user in X doing 'xhost +', and I still get 'cant open display localhost:0[.0]' ; what to do ? |
| 01:54.07 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: so the bios supports booting from usb. good. My first guess is that the USB modules aren't on the initrd. When you reboot, see if the kernel says anything about loading usb drivers. also note if it says it cannot load the root file system |
| 01:54.28 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: all of this is on the same computer? |
| 01:54.41 | drivamgr2006 | ok i will. should I boot in norml mode or debian recovery? |
| 01:54.49 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: normal mode is fine |
| 01:54.56 | drivamgr2006 | ok back in a few minutes then |
| 01:54.59 | mathias64 | since it will fail again anyway |
| 01:55.02 | drivamgr2006 | and thanks for waiting mathias64 |
| 01:55.36 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: yup ... locally |
| 01:55.56 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: one console, one terminal |
| 01:56.11 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: you have two xterms, one with a differnet user, and the differnet user says it can't open the display? |
| 01:56.34 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: by terminal you mean x terminal? I'm confused about that |
| 01:56.43 | mathias64 | and by console what do you mean? |
| 01:56.47 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: one is root with su+chroot ... thats the one whic get into problems ... when same procedure did work yesterday :S |
| 01:57.25 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: ok. so one xterm is running as root in a chroot environment, and the other is a plain xterm |
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| 01:57.51 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: lets restart .... |
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| 01:58.24 | mathias64 | i missed the last 30 seconds, please repeat |
| 01:58.46 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: two xterms ... as user under X; one will run 'xhosts +', other will run su,chroot,xterm ... and the latter one will not be able to create the 3rd xterm ... when it did work yesterday |
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| 01:59.16 | mathias64 | dhp: can you open an xterm as root before the chroot? that is, if you ruin an xterm, su in it, then run xterm, does that work? |
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| 01:59.24 | mathias64 | ruin = run |
| 01:59.42 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: after su, yes, after chroot, no. Used to work. |
| 02:00.09 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: hmm. I don't think X uses /dev but do you have dev mounted inside the chroot? |
| 02:00.32 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: I am chrooting a debian into debian :) two partitions ... |
| 02:00.46 | allix | hopefully this works |
| 02:00.52 | allix | bbs |
| 02:00.55 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: same commands, different versions of everything. |
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| 02:01.03 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: right. I have the same setup. |
| 02:01.21 | allix | bye |
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| 02:01.37 | drivamgr2006 | Hiya mathias64 |
| 02:01.37 | DrNach | How do I edit fstab that a particular parition should be mounted as read/write for everyone? |
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| 02:01.46 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: listens your X server on tcp/ip - in a chroot environment unix sockets wont work |
| 02:01.59 | dhp_saturn_v4 | DrNach: man mount |
| 02:01.59 | drivamgr2006 | I am back from the debian graveyard with the info you requested |
| 02:02.03 | drivamgr2006 | :) |
| 02:02.13 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: great |
| 02:02.23 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: did work yesterday |
| 02:02.35 | mathias64 | dhp_saturn_v4: I get the following problem: xterm: Error 32, errno 2: No such file or directory |
| 02:02.35 | mathias64 | Reason: get_pty: not enough ptys |
| 02:02.49 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: what did you find out |
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| 02:03.19 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: normally configured in gdm/xdm/... have you updated one of these? |
| 02:03.21 | dhp_saturn_v4 | mathias64: I just got "can't open display ......" |
| 02:03.40 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: that may have happen duroing the night :) |
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| 02:03.43 | DrNach | dhp_saturn_v4, I don't see anything regarding permissions of users |
| 02:03.57 | mathias64 | fucking xchat crashed again, so you'll have to repeat the last thing you told me |
| 02:04.14 | dhp_saturn_v4 | DrNach: what is the file system type ? |
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| 02:04.25 | drivamgr2006 | 1: It does say uncompressing linux | 2: it goes for boot/initrd.img | 3 - nothing about USB modules at all | 4: The system says pivot_root: No such file or directory | 5 (The last thing before failure) - /sbin/init 432 Cannot open /dev/console - No such file - at this point, the panic kicks in |
| 02:04.28 | DrNach | dhp_saturn_v4, FAT32 (or vfat) |
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| 02:05.44 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: does it load the initrd successfully? |
| 02:05.48 | dhp_saturn_v4 | DrNach: I beleave alter 'defaults' to 'defaults,umask=000,exec |
| 02:05.48 | drivamgr2006 | yes |
| 02:06.00 | DrNach | I'll try that |
| 02:06.07 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: huh. And that is on the USB drive? |
| 02:06.11 | Hoxzer | how do I install .dll files to the wine? |
| 02:06.15 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: normally the X server listens on port 6000, you should check this with netstat for example |
| 02:06.20 | drivamgr2006 | yes mathias - it is |
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| 02:07.00 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: nmap says port is closed |
| 02:07.24 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: hmm. well, pivot_root is trying to switch from the minimal root in initrd to the real root. since that is failing, that means that there is some problem finding the real root file system |
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| 02:07.31 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: telnet says same. |
| 02:07.34 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: do you use xdm, gdm, kdm, ... |
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| 02:07.55 | sportman|ap-us | hey |
| 02:08.01 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: missed it :) usually Entrance, today xinit. |
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| 02:08.07 | drivamgr2006 | so is that recoverable mathias64 ? |
| 02:08.16 | drivamgr2006 | or am I borked? |
| 02:08.31 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: one minute |
| 02:09.15 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: you need to follow the instructions under ``third obstacle'' in the page http://lists.debian.org/debian-boot/2004/05/msg03728.html |
| 02:09.39 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: basically, the debian installer is too dumb to install to a usb hard disk |
| 02:09.48 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: sorry. |
| 02:09.53 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: does 'ps ax' say something like "-nolisten tcp" as an argument to the X process? |
| 02:09.53 | drivamgr2006 | oh ok... will go take a look |
| 02:10.24 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: yes :( ok. Where to change that ? /etc ? |
| 02:10.28 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: do you have some general linux experience (not nec. debian)? |
| 02:10.55 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: sorry dont know for xinit, but thats the problem i think |
| 02:11.00 | drivamgr2006 | yes, normally i use Mandriva 2006.0, so i am down on an RPM based system |
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| 02:11.32 | dhp_saturn_v4 | DrNach: the options umask works 'reverse way ' ... if you want 777 permissions, you shall use '000' |
| 02:11.33 | sportman|ap-us | anyone know how to install knoppix |
| 02:11.35 | sportman|ap-us | to hard disk |
| 02:11.41 | drivamgr2006 | but we are having a real prob getting my apache server up in Mdv, so my dev team leader suggested I switch to debian for the development server |
| 02:11.43 | DrNach | dhp_saturn_v4, I noticed |
| 02:11.46 | mathias64 | sportman|ap-us: this is not #knoppix |
| 02:11.52 | DrNach | thanks for the help |
| 02:12.05 | dhp_saturn_v4 | sportman|ap-us: after 8 tries, I gave up. On the other hand, Ubuntu works fine at the first shot :) |
| 02:12.30 | Durin | dhp_saturn_v4: try /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc |
| 02:12.31 | sportman|ap-us | lol |
| 02:12.40 | sportman|ap-us | dhp_saturn_v4 |
| 02:12.45 | sportman|ap-us | is there a place to do it though |
| 02:12.47 | sportman|ap-us | off the cd? |
| 02:12.47 | Tortel | ubuntu=annoying |
| 02:12.51 | sportman|ap-us | or no specific tool |
| 02:12.54 | drivamgr2006 | mathias64: So when it says boot installer again, I have to boot the netinstall disk? and then make the modifications it suggests before it boots to the language selection etc? |
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| 02:13.21 | thc | sportman|ap-us: this channel does not support knoppix. /j #knoppix |
| 02:13.33 | sportman|ap-us | lol |
| 02:13.35 | mathias64 | drivamgr2006: you have to hit alt-f2 to get a console, and then do the things it suggests. |
| 02:13.37 | sportman|ap-us | i did |
| 02:13.41 | sportman|ap-us | thc no one is helpful there |
| 02:13.42 | sportman|ap-us | :) |
| 02:13.49 | justnulli | updated kernel 2.6 and now i get pivot_root: no such file or directory after reboot |
| 02:13.54 | Tortel | umm, how can I change moniter power management? the options in xscreensaver are greyed out... |
| 02:14.08 | mathias64 | justnulli: you're the second in one night. What disk is your system installed one? |
| 02:14.10 | mathias64 | justnulli: you're the second in one night. What disk is your system installed on? |
| 02:14.10 | drivamgr2006 | oh ok mathias64 - here we go. $Deity prepare me for what I am about to do... :) |
| 02:14.17 | drivamgr2006 | I will be back as soon as possible |
| 02:14.44 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Durin: /etc/X11$ grep -nri tcp * => nothing for me :S any way, I ll try using Entrance instead of xinit ... wait and see. Tnx. |
| 02:15.00 | justnulli | mathias64: on pci ata-100 card |
| 02:15.07 | thc | sportman|ap-us: i suggest you install something that has better support then, /msg dpkg d-i |
| 02:15.16 | dhp_saturn_v4 | sportman|ap-us: now stop non 'Debian' topics in here. join either #knoppix or #ubuntu. |
| 02:15.18 | mathias64 | justnulli: did you have the card supported by a module in your previous kernel? |
| 02:15.26 | drivamgr2006 | Ich komme gleich wieder zurueck! |
| 02:15.31 | drivamgr2006 | bye |
| 02:16.00 | dhp_saturn_v4 | sportman|ap-us: you are not helping yourself. too many short lines, boring all the chan. |
| 02:16.19 | Tortel | !enter |
| 02:16.19 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 02:16.42 | justnulli | mathias64: it is generic card that uses to come with new ata-100 hd (maybe it is ata-133) and i installed debian months ago on this server so have no clue if it needed aditional drivers or not |
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| 02:17.17 | dhp_saturn_v4 | Tortel: ask dpkg to tell about ... |
| 02:17.28 | dhp_saturn_v4 | !tell sportman|ap-us about enter |
| 02:18.17 | mathias64 | justnulli: the error most likely means the hard drive isn't found when the system boots. you may need to make a better initrd. |
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| 02:20.50 | justnulli | mathias64: ok how do i find out which modules i need to include in the inetrd image? |
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| 02:21.32 | mathias64 | justnulli: boot into 2.4 and see what modules are loaded there. |
| 02:22.35 | mathias64 | justnulli: you add them to /etc/mkinitrd/modules or /etc/mkinitramfs/modules and then make a new initrd with mkinitrd or mkinitramfs |
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| 02:23.09 | allix | it did not work |
| 02:23.11 | liable | why not use a debian image, and if compiling, why bother with an initrd? |
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| 02:23.45 | simpletron | hi |
| 02:23.51 | allix | what would you sugest now? |
| 02:24.07 | justnulli | mathias64: well 2.4 also doesn't load |
| 02:24.17 | tonybaloney | what's a good place to look if i can't get sound working in XMMS? |
| 02:24.18 | mathias64 | allix: what didn't work |
| 02:24.31 | allix | the newer kernal |
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| 02:24.33 | justnulli | mathias64: i guess i can run innstall disk and see what it loads |
| 02:24.39 | mathias64 | justnulli: than you will have to do some research to see which module to use, or boot from a live cd and see what modules it chooses |
| 02:24.50 | mathias64 | allix: what happened? |
| 02:24.57 | allix | the as before |
| 02:25.01 | allix | as=same |
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| 02:25.13 | allix | could not detect it |
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| 02:25.29 | justnulli | is there live cd that can be booted from pxe? |
| 02:25.31 | mathias64 | allix: yes, I know it can't detect it. I wanted a new kernel so you can modprobe sk98lin |
| 02:25.41 | allix | i tried that |
| 02:25.44 | allix | it did not work |
| 02:25.56 | allix | sk8lin was loaded at 0 |
| 02:25.59 | mathias64 | allix: what heppened when you typed modprobe sk98lin? |
| 02:26.01 | dao777 | hey just started getting some problem starting kde/gnome involving perhaps iceauth |
| 02:26.01 | allix | what does that mean? |
| 02:26.08 | mathias64 | allix: then you typed ifconfig eth0 up ? |
| 02:26.13 | allix | yeah |
| 02:26.16 | allix | nothing happend |
| 02:26.33 | allix | it did not recognise eth0 |
| 02:26.39 | dao777 | says /tmp/.ICE<somethging> must be owned by root |
| 02:26.43 | dvs | allix: What did /sbin/ifconfig say? |
| 02:27.01 | allix | i did this from root |
| 02:27.02 | dao777 | so i chownit |
| 02:27.02 | dao777 | but it still doesn't start proper |
| 02:27.02 | dao777 | and i don' t know why it oughtta give me this when it worked no |
| 02:27.11 | dao777 | trouble before |
| 02:27.38 | allix | if i could get them off the cd that came with the motherboard |
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| 02:27.42 | allix | it would proberly wont |
| 02:27.43 | mathias64 | allix sk8lin was loaded at 0 means we made progress... |
| 02:27.58 | allix | after all thats how i am chatting to you |
| 02:27.58 | mathias64 | allix: what exactly does ifconfig eth0 up say? |
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| 02:28.41 | allix | i cannot remember the correct words, but it did not know eth0 |
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| 02:29.12 | dvs | allix: what about just "ifconfig" ? |
| 02:29.33 | allix | i never tried that along |
| 02:29.36 | allix | alone |
| 02:29.54 | mathias64 | allix: well, if sk98lin was able to be inserted, then you made progress. You could put ``iface eth0 inet dhcp'' into /etc/network/interfaces if it's just an error about an unknown interface |
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| 02:30.35 | allix | how would i know if its an error or something more |
| 02:30.42 | allix | i tried using aptitude |
| 02:30.48 | allix | and it would not connect |
| 02:30.57 | allix | when i wanted to install something |
| 02:31.02 | mathias64 | allix: right. you need to get the network interface up before aptitude will work. |
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| 02:31.12 | allix | it justasaid 0bytes downloaded |
| 02:31.21 | allix | i know |
| 02:31.36 | liable | allix: ifconfig, route, /etc/resolv.conf check all three. |
| 02:31.47 | mathias64 | allix: the only way I can make progress is to know what ifconfig eth0 up says when you run it, after you have inserted sk98lin. If it works, when you run just ifconfig you should see eth0 appear below lo |
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| 02:32.35 | allix | i don't see that |
| 02:32.39 | serfurj | where can i find documentation on using apache2 with debian? (for example, the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled directory) |
| 02:32.54 | mathias64 | allix: so what does ifconfig eth0 up say? |
| 02:32.58 | dvs | serfurj: /usr/share/doc/apache2 |
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| 02:33.13 | allix | something not found |
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| 02:33.31 | serfurj | dvs: thanks |
| 02:33.38 | dvs | serfurj: No problem |
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| 02:34.07 | allix | do u think 2.6.14 would work |
| 02:34.12 | allix | being optomistic |
| 02:34.25 | allix | all am i wasting my time |
| 02:34.31 | mathias64 | allix: put ``iface eth0 inet dhcp'' into /etc/network insterface, modprobe sk98lin, and then run ifconfig eth0 up. 2.6.12 is working fine insofar as you were able to insert the sk98lin module |
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| 02:34.45 | mathias64 | thats /etc/network/interfaces |
| 02:35.17 | allix | if that works , what should i do? |
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| 02:35.27 | liable | be happy? |
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| 02:35.37 | dvs | allix: ping something? |
| 02:35.51 | mathias64 | if that works, then ifconfig will show eth0 when you run just ifconfig. at that point run dhclient eth0 to get an ip address, then run aptitude |
| 02:36.17 | mathias64 | let me point out that what I am describing is exactly what I did to install on my machine.... |
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| 02:36.41 | allix | ok |
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| 02:37.00 | allix | i will be back |
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| 02:39.02 | JPX | getting a new pc, will debian install using sata connections(non-raid) on my hdd and cdrw? |
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| 02:39.23 | hammerabi | of course, if linux supports the sata chipset |
| 02:39.25 | dvs | !sarge |
| 02:39.25 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 02:39.49 | dvs | hammerabi: that's the problem. The 2.6.8 kernel doesn't support SATA that well. |
| 02:40.09 | liable | supported mine :) |
| 02:40.14 | JPX | there is soo much conflicting opinions on this issue in the forums. which is it? lol |
| 02:40.20 | dvs | !beer liable |
| 02:40.37 | liable | http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html#open_chipsets |
| 02:41.04 | Hoxzer | well have to go sleep and when I wake up I will spam more questions |
| 02:41.06 | mathias64 | JPX: it depends on the exact chipset |
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| 02:41.14 | SimonRaven | why? |
| 02:42.01 | JPX | brb, gonna check |
| 02:42.19 | sport|corner | for a debian install is ReiserFS 3.6 or ext3 better? |
| 02:42.46 | cheal | sport|corner: it depends on which debian install |
| 02:43.02 | sport|corner | explain? |
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| 02:44.18 | w000 | Hello. just compiled kernel 2.6.14-4 over 2.6.8-2 which came w/ debian (using make oldconfig). now when I boot the new kernel I get "Unknown device /dev/hda6 something about wrong block (that's /) any ideas? |
| 02:44.26 | hammerabi | sport|corner: if you have no idea, use ext3 |
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| 02:44.35 | dvs | w000: Didn't compile the file systems into the kernel |
| 02:44.41 | hammerabi | w000: Debian kernel .configs will not boot at all unless you make an initrd |
| 02:44.43 | JPX | hmmm, i don't see it. the one i want to purchase has the Promise PDC20319 S150TX4 Serial ATA RAID controller. Guess since the list doesn't have it, i'm outta luck |
| 02:45.00 | mathias64 | w000: when you say compiles what do you mean? |
| 02:45.01 | w000 | dvs; but it's the same config.. and it's working here |
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| 02:45.10 | sport|corner | ok, thanks hammerabi - i do most of my installs using ext3, but i had never tried reiser fs and it was set as the default, so i was not sure |
| 02:45.18 | dvs | w000: Did you make an initrd image too? |
| 02:45.22 | w000 | nope |
| 02:45.25 | w000 | how do I make that? :P |
| 02:45.28 | dvs | w000: That's why |
| 02:45.43 | dvs | w000: How did you compile it? |
| 02:45.51 | w000 | from source |
| 02:46.05 | w000 | built it and installed modules |
| 02:46.07 | dvs | w000: make or make-kpkg |
| 02:46.12 | w000 | just make |
| 02:46.26 | dvs | w000: I don't know how to do it with just make |
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| 02:46.38 | w000 | can I make-kpkg now? |
| 02:46.39 | JPX | i'll bbl, thanks for the help everybody and for the link. gonna read some more :) |
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| 02:46.50 | mathias64 | JPX: see http://linuxmafia.com/ . it looks like you might get the sata ports to work,l but steer away from the fake raid. |
| 02:47.01 | dvs | w000: Sure. Just use the --initrd option when you do. |
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| 02:47.20 | osrisix | Hi, I just wanted to know how to set up a SSH server on my Debian computer? |
| 02:47.20 | mathias64 | w000: why not just install the right linux-image debian package? |
| 02:47.45 | mathias64 | osrisix: apt-get install openssh-server |
| 02:48.01 | dvs | mathias64: is there a 2.6.14 linux-image? |
| 02:48.06 | mathias64 | jpx: the whol url is http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html |
| 02:48.08 | liable | yes |
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| 02:48.13 | mathias64 | dvs: yes. I am using it right now |
| 02:48.16 | allix | this is what it sayed |
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| 02:48.24 | w000 | mathias64; do I just use aptitude to get it? |
| 02:48.26 | mathias64 | allix: all right |
| 02:48.27 | osrisix | mathias64: Thanks. Also, is there a way to set up a SSH server on Windows? |
| 02:48.30 | dvs | mathias64: :-) |
| 02:48.43 | danieldg | osrisix: cygwin |
| 02:48.43 | mathias64 | osrisix: gotta go to #windows to find that out |
| 02:48.46 | allix | fatal: module sk98lin not found |
| 02:48.58 | osrisix | mathias64: sorry. |
| 02:49.05 | mathias64 | allix: you said last time you were able to insert the module... |
| 02:49.20 | allix | eth0: from getting interface flags : no such device |
| 02:49.37 | allix | sorry ignore fatal |
| 02:49.44 | allix | but thats what eth0 said |
| 02:49.49 | allix | what does it mean? |
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| 02:50.00 | bucky | sk98lin is in linux-image-2.6.12-1-* in testing |
| 02:50.09 | dvs | allix: If sk98lin didn't load then there's no chance of eth0 being there. |
| 02:50.12 | mathias64 | module sk98lin not found means the module wasn;t inserted. last time, you said you were able to insert the module |
| 02:50.21 | allix | no, sk98lin loaded |
| 02:50.26 | allix | eth0 did not |
| 02:50.38 | dvs | allix: module sk98lin not found means it didn't load |
| 02:50.52 | mathias64 | last time you said it said sk98lin loaded at 0. |
| 02:50.58 | allix | its listed on lsmod |
| 02:51.24 | CompWizrd | but is it being used? |
| 02:51.25 | allix | eth0 will not load |
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| 02:51.50 | allix | what should i look for |
| 02:52.11 | dvs | allix: What did "ifconfig" say after you loaded the module? |
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| 02:52.23 | Durin | allix: just to be sure: how does lspci report the ethernet card |
| 02:52.28 | allix | what does your entire /etc/network/interface look like? |
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| 02:52.55 | w000 | mathias64; when I get the linux-image it installs right away.. where does it get the configuration file from? |
| 02:53.11 | Lilldude10 | does any one run nvidati video card? |
| 02:53.25 | allix | let me try again |
| 02:53.26 | mathias64 | w000: what config file? It's a precompiled kernel. most things are available as modules. i |
| 02:53.28 | plb | wow x11r7.0 is out |
| 02:53.42 | mathias64 | lilldude10: nvidati: it that like half nvidia half ati? |
| 02:53.45 | dvs | O_O |
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| 02:54.32 | Lilldude10 | its like 4600 nvida |
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| 02:55.28 | w000 | ok here goes |
| 02:55.55 | cr3 | I have a recent linux kernel with ntfs read/write support and, yet, I can't seem to write to my ntfs partition. I even tried remounting it rw: mount -t ntfs -o remount,rw /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 |
| 02:56.24 | mathias64 | allix: I found this: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/03/msg00154.html |
| 02:56.33 | bucky | !ntfs |
| 02:56.33 | dpkg | i heard ntfs is Microsoft's attempt to create a Unix-like filesystem. linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net is a good source of information. you need umask=022,gid=xxx to access the partition as non-root. See also http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ntfs.html, or ask me about captiventfs |
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| 02:56.48 | SexyKen | Hey guys -- anyone know why sendmail would remove newlines from input via the command line? |
| 02:57.58 | mathias64 | SexyKen: which mail server do you have? really sendmail, or something else? |
| 02:58.04 | cr3 | bucky: but I am even trying to access it as root, I really don't understand why I can't seem to write to it. |
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| 02:58.50 | cr3 | bucky: and if I try to touch /media/hda1/test.txt, nothing comes up in /var/log/messages |
| 02:58.54 | bucky | cr3: you shouldn't write to ntfs unless you use captiventfs |
| 02:58.54 | SexyKen | really sendmail I believe. |
| 02:59.18 | cr3 | bucky: hm, I wasn't aware of captiventfs, I'll have a look at it. thanks |
| 02:59.25 | mathias64 | SexyKen: ls -l /usr/lib/sendmail and see what it says |
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| 03:00.02 | SexyKen | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 16 2005-06-14 14:49 /usr/lib/sendmail -> ../sbin/sendmail |
| 03:00.23 | mathias64 | yep that's really sendmail. How exactly did you get that installed? |
| 03:00.33 | mathias64 | i.e. why did you install it? |
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| 03:00.47 | SexyKen | Doesn't debian use sendmail by default? |
| 03:00.52 | dondelelcaro | SexyKen: no. |
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| 03:01.01 | allix | hi |
| 03:01.03 | mathias64 | I have /usr/lib/sendmail -> ../sbin/exim4 |
| 03:01.09 | SexyKen | I dont know -- one of our admins installed it. |
| 03:01.10 | dondelelcaro | sendmail is just a generic interface to an MTA. |
| 03:01.17 | mathias64 | allix: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/03/msg00145.html |
| 03:01.30 | SexyKen | I just want it to stop jerking me off and send my emails properly. |
| 03:01.31 | allix | sk98lin is 167528 |
| 03:01.36 | allix | used 0 |
| 03:01.37 | cr3 | bucky: I'm not finding captiventfs in the stable debian packages, must I install it from source? |
| 03:01.39 | dondelelcaro | SexyKen: are you receiving mails at that machine? |
| 03:02.02 | dvs | allix: That means it loaded |
| 03:02.04 | dondelelcaro | SexyKen: or just sending from it? |
| 03:02.08 | bucky | cr3: /msg dpkg captiventfs |
| 03:02.13 | cindy | i can not get swat to work |
| 03:02.14 | allix | when i type ifconfig sk98lin |
| 03:02.21 | allix | nothing happens |
| 03:02.30 | dvs | allix: wrong, just type "ifconfig" |
| 03:02.36 | allix | same thing |
| 03:02.37 | dondelelcaro | or perhaps ifconfig -a |
| 03:02.40 | allix | nothing happens |
| 03:02.44 | allix | oh |
| 03:02.49 | allix | whats the -a mean? |
| 03:02.53 | SexyKen | Just sending from it. |
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| 03:02.55 | mathias64 | the thing to type is ifconfig eth0 up. |
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| 03:03.08 | dondelelcaro | SexyKen: use nullmailer or esmtp then; no need for a full fledged mTA |
| 03:03.18 | mathias64 | allix: the url i posted has info about the nic on your mainboard. you should read it. |
| 03:03.28 | Edge888 | I need help on user management. how can I view the users that I have been added, with complete details like which group the user belong. |
| 03:03.54 | mathias64 | SexyKen: I can't say why sendmail would remove newlines from input, the the _real_ sendmail you have is famously idiosyncratic. |
| 03:04.04 | allix | it does not work : it says etho: from while getting interface flags : no such device |
| 03:04.30 | dondelelcaro | Edge888: id -Gn foouser; |
| 03:04.35 | mathias64 | allix: the thread I posted claims the kernel drivers are broken for your mobo. |
| 03:04.40 | allix | thats deluxe |
| 03:04.43 | allix | mine is not |
| 03:05.05 | allix | mine is asus a8v-e se |
| 03:05.12 | Edge888 | dondelelcaro: thanks let me try thanks again |
| 03:05.14 | mathias64 | right. |
| 03:05.14 | dondelelcaro | Edge888: if you want to know which users exist, awk -F: '{print $1}' /etc/passwd; |
| 03:05.20 | allix | se means se |
| 03:05.26 | allix | second edition |
| 03:06.04 | Edge888 | what does {print $1} do? |
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| 03:06.25 | mathias64 | well, i think we are out of ideas. If you can;t make the network work by hand, and it doesn't work on its own, then you will have to use some other method to install. sorry. |
| 03:06.25 | bgat | anyone seeing this with the current sid? |
| 03:06.28 | dondelelcaro | Edge888: man awk; in short it prints the first filed from /etc/passwd. |
| 03:06.34 | allix | that thread is what happens to me |
| 03:06.35 | mathias64 | bgat: seeing what? |
| 03:06.42 | cr3 | bucky: thanks |
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| 03:06.51 | allix | so how comes it work on here |
| 03:06.51 | dondelelcaro | s/filed/field/ |
| 03:07.12 | Edge888 | dondelelcaro: thanks :) i will check :) thanks.... u;re such a help... ty :) |
| 03:07.13 | bgat | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.14 | allix | also does it have to be eth0? |
| 03:07.22 | bgat | DB_File needs compatible versions of libdb & db.h |
| 03:07.22 | bgat | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.24 | allix | i don't think it is on slackware |
| 03:07.28 | bucky | cr3: i noticed there's a lufs-source package available from the debian repository |
| 03:07.39 | dondelelcaro | allix: it doesn't, but that's fairly typical. |
| 03:07.52 | allix | could that be why its not working? |
| 03:07.56 | bucky | cr3: you might be able to module-assistant auto-install lufs |
| 03:08.19 | dondelelcaro | allix: if you don't see the device when you ifconfig -a; then it's not working. If you don't see the device configured in dmesg, then it won't work either. |
| 03:08.27 | dondelelcaro | bgat: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 03:08.38 | allix | http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/03/msg00154.html |
| 03:08.40 | bgat | dondelelcaro: run lxr's genxref on a kernel source tree |
| 03:08.49 | allix | thats what i am doing to chat to u know |
| 03:09.02 | bgat | dondelelcaro: was working fine until my latest apt-get upgrade. :( |
| 03:09.08 | allix | but how would i be able to install that on without bunzip or gcc? |
| 03:09.34 | mathias64 | allix: you can't. That's what I was saying -- you'l have to install some other way. |
| 03:09.51 | allix | that link i pasted, is what i doing now |
| 03:09.54 | dvs | allix: Or use knoppix to see what the right driver is. |
| 03:10.14 | allix | http://www.syskonnect.com/syskonnect/support/driver/htm/sk9e21_lin.htm |
| 03:10.19 | allix | thats what i am using |
| 03:10.21 | dondelelcaro | bgat: that sounds like you haven't upgraded libdb, since the newest version in unstable is 4.3.29 |
| 03:10.26 | dondelelcaro | !info libdb4.3 |
| 03:10.29 | dpkg | libdb4.3: (Berkeley v4.3 Database Libraries [runtime]), section libs, is required. Version: 4.3.29-3 (sid), Packaged size: 390 kB, Installed size: 904 kB |
| 03:10.40 | allix | why does the base system not have gcc or bunzi2? |
| 03:11.01 | dondelelcaro | allix: because neither of those should be in base. If you want them, install them. |
| 03:11.26 | allix | how can i install them without the packages |
| 03:11.26 | mathias64 | allix: you installed from a netinst image, which intentionally has very little in the base system. It's not a base _usable_ system -- it's a temporary base system until you install more software. Which you could do, if the network worked. |
| 03:11.32 | allix | there not on the cd |
| 03:11.52 | dondelelcaro | allix: it should be on the first or second full cd; it's almost definetly not on the netinst disk. |
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| 03:12.10 | bgat | dondelelcaro: I think libdb4.3-dev must have gotten to testing before libdb4.3 did. |
| 03:12.14 | Edge888 | dondelelcaro: thanks it worked with me... :) |
| 03:12.14 | allix | do i need to download all 9cds or whatever it is |
| 03:12.15 | bgat | !info libdb4.3-dev |
| 03:12.17 | hammerabi | allix: because normal it's not a base package |
| 03:12.18 | dpkg | libdb4.3-dev: (Berkeley v4.3 Database Libraries [development]), section libdevel, is extra. Version: 4.3.29-3 (sid), Packaged size: 471 kB, Installed size: 1316 kB |
| 03:12.21 | dondelelcaro | Edge888: cool |
| 03:12.24 | mathias64 | bgat: what version of db does lxr want? |
| 03:12.35 | dondelelcaro | !info libdb4.3-dev etch |
| 03:12.37 | dondelelcaro | !info libdb4.3 etch |
| 03:12.44 | bgat | mathias64: it doesn't care, just so long as db.h and libdb match. |
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| 03:13.09 | dondelelcaro | bgat: that can't be true; they both depend on eachother... |
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| 03:13.15 | allix | can i get away with just using the first cd? |
| 03:13.23 | dondelelcaro | !depends libdb4.3-dev |
| 03:13.27 | dpkg | libdb4.3-dev: depends on libdb4.3 (= 4.3.29-3) |
| 03:13.28 | Edge888 | dondelelcaro: how can I enable user to use email, ftp, smb? :) as I remember in redhat, u can add ftp, smb on a user ? :) |
| 03:13.49 | bgat | dondelelcaro: true. but I can't argue with lxr's complaint. At least, it hasn't done any good so far. :) |
| 03:14.25 | dpkg | libdb4.3-dev: (Berkeley v4.3 Database Libraries [development]), section libdevel, is extra. Version: 4.3.28-2 (etch), Packaged size: 489 kB, Installed size: 1340 kB |
| 03:14.27 | dondelelcaro | Edge888: samba requires an entry into the smbpasswd file typically; email should just work, and ftp depends on the ftp server that you're using; most will just allow system users with a valid shell to log in. |
| 03:14.27 | bgat | dondelelcaro: my machine has 4.3.28-2 of libdb4.3 and libdb4.3-dev installed |
| 03:14.48 | dondelelcaro | bgat: right, then it must be reading from a different db.h than the one that is installed by Debian. |
| 03:15.03 | bgat | dondelelcaro: ugh. I was hoping you wouldn't say that. :) |
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| 03:15.16 | bgat | dondelelcaro: any idea how to track that down? |
| 03:15.23 | dondelelcaro | bgat: find is probably the fastest method |
| 03:15.36 | mathias64 | updatedb && locate db.h |
| 03:15.40 | dondelelcaro | ugh. |
| 03:15.45 | dondelelcaro | find / -type f -name 'db.h' |
| 03:15.50 | Edge888 | dondelelcaro.... thanks a lot :) |
| 03:15.56 | dondelelcaro | not every directory is in locate... |
| 03:16.01 | allix | how many cds to i need to honestly download to install debian? |
| 03:16.02 | wethion | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:16.12 | dvs | allix: one |
| 03:16.16 | dvs | really |
| 03:16.17 | bgat | dondelelcaro: running find now... |
| 03:16.32 | allix | just one? |
| 03:16.35 | bucky | /usr/include/db.h or /usr/local/include/db.h |
| 03:16.37 | dondelelcaro | wethion: modular 7.0 most likely... but that's something for the x strike force and the people who are actually doing the work to figure out which is the right decision. |
| 03:16.37 | allix | how big is it? |
| 03:16.41 | SimonRaven | yes, just one |
| 03:16.42 | dvs | allix: It depends what you want to install |
| 03:16.59 | dvs | if you dont' want to use the internet |
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| 03:17.06 | allix | i want to run be able to run this network |
| 03:17.21 | dondelelcaro | wethion: there may be a few releases of non-modular X before then. |
| 03:17.24 | allix | you mean it does not have gcc or bunzip2? |
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| 03:17.43 | dondelelcaro | !cd contents |
| 03:17.43 | dpkg | To find out what is on what cd, download the .jigdo template, and zless fooimage.jigdo. In the [Parts] section you will see the list of packages that are contained in the cd. searchable index of the sarge cds: http://vireo.org/~stew/jigdo If that one is down, use this listing of sarge packages ordered by CD: http://haydn.debian.org/~ftlerror-guest/list.txt |
| 03:18.06 | wethion | dondelelcaro: is there a mailing list that you know of off the top of your head, or just google for it? I'd like to stay on top of it so I don't get caught unawares like I did with the 2.6.14-5 bug. |
| 03:18.11 | cheal | wethion: 6.9 first, 7.0 later. it will affect users by allowing them to have a newer X version |
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| 03:19.26 | litage | how do you configure sshd to listen on 2 ports? |
| 03:19.42 | wethion | cheal: I was speaking in terms of major replacements of packages, a difference of release for something so substabtial, etc, etc. |
| 03:19.43 | mathias64 | bgat: the libdb4.3-dev db.h is really 4.3.28. so the usr/local one is the other one |
| 03:20.09 | dondelelcaro | wethion: debian-x@lists.debian.org |
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| 03:20.28 | wethion | dondelelcaro: Thanks much. |
| 03:20.29 | mathias64 | litage: man sshd_config |
| 03:20.32 | allix | mathias64: can i unistall debian and get back lilo |
| 03:21.08 | mathias64 | allix: running lilo from inside your slackware install should replace the debian bootloader. |
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| 03:21.25 | allix | u mean |
| 03:21.29 | hammerabi | litage: can you add two Port lines to sshd_config? |
| 03:21.31 | allix | just type lilo now |
| 03:21.33 | allix | ? |
| 03:21.33 | mathias64 | The ssh man page says: Port Specifies the port number that sshd listens on. The default is 22. Multiple options of this type are permitted. |
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| 03:22.01 | allix | and run cfdisk and remove the debian partitions? |
| 03:22.24 | mathias64 | allix: are you running slackware now? Have you run lilo before? I don't know how you ahve things set up, so it's hard for me to say. However you had lilo set up before, do it again. You can remove the debian partitions, sure |
| 03:23.47 | allix | ok |
| 03:23.49 | allix | thanks |
| 03:23.54 | allix | i will be back soon |
| 03:23.55 | lpb-oberon | is there a way to make windows use the hardware clock wich is set to gmt with an offset? |
| 03:24.35 | lpb-oberon | as soon as i change the timezone the broken os changes my hwclock |
| 03:25.18 | mathias64 | lpb-oberon: I think there is a debian install option to use a non-utc hw clock, but no windows option to use a utc clock. |
| 03:25.49 | lpb-oberon | i know but id like to force windows:) |
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| 03:26.23 | cheal | wethion: nothing important in 6.9, except for the xlibs-dev transition which will not affect users much |
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| 03:26.39 | *** topic/#debian by dondelelcaro -> GETTING DEBIAN? /msg dpkg install debian | RELEASED: 3.1r1 http://xrl.us/jayp | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | BORKED: yaird/kernels (#343042/#343048) | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java | /msg dpkg kde3.4 | /msg dpkg apt secure | Please note: this is not #ubuntu. |
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| 03:26.50 | dondelelcaro | diff: added link to the -announce mail for 41 |
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| 03:26.54 | dondelelcaro | s/41/r1 |
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| 03:28.12 | cheal | dondelelcaro: if you're looking for room in /topic, I think kde3.4 can go away |
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| 03:28.38 | FourierSeries | kde? |
| 03:28.38 | allix | it worked |
| 03:28.41 | allix | thanks |
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| 03:28.48 | FourierSeries | "FVWM!" |
| 03:28.58 | sbk | Maybe this is a FAQ -- please point me to the right place. I'd like to install a (minimal) debian distribution TO a pen drive. {the idea is that it'll let me boot into debian from any computer that can boot from a USB stick; for rescue/etc etc.} |
| 03:29.11 | mathias64 | fvwm 2.5.14 compiled on Nov 1 2005 at 03:42:37 |
| 03:29.24 | dvs | sbk: There is on the debian website |
| 03:29.31 | sbk | dvs: oh, ok -- thanks. |
| 03:29.40 | allix | anyone here from the uk |
| 03:29.43 | FourierSeries | mathias64: coolness! |
| 03:29.57 | mathias64 | sbk: I would recommend just getting a premade pen drive image, even if it's not debian. It is a little painful to make your own pen drive install because of driver issues |
| 03:30.27 | dvs | sbk: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s04.html.en |
| 03:30.29 | allix | i am considering buying the boxset |
| 03:30.38 | allix | if i knew where to get them |
| 03:30.48 | sbk | mathias64: ah, ok -- good to know, thanks. |
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| 03:31.13 | sbk | dvs: that's only telling me how to put an installer image on a pen drive |
| 03:31.17 | dvs | mathias64: I made one and it was a snap |
| 03:31.24 | allix | http://www.uselinux.co.uk/index.php?manufacturers_id=5 |
| 03:31.27 | allix | they have it |
| 03:31.33 | mathias64 | dvs: did you compile your own kernel for it? |
| 03:31.36 | dvs | sbk: Oh? You want to have a working Debian on a pen drive? |
| 03:31.46 | dvs | mathias64: Nope |
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| 03:31.55 | sbk | dvs: yes, that's correct |
| 03:32.04 | allix | only £4 |
| 03:32.07 | mathias64 | dvs: did you have to make a special initrd? |
| 03:32.08 | dvs | sbk: Ok. So I don't have one of those. Sorry. |
| 03:32.19 | dvs | mathias64: Nope. |
| 03:32.34 | allix | is 3.1r0a current? |
| 03:32.43 | odla | 3.1r1 |
| 03:32.45 | mathias64 | dvs: hmm. That's very interesting. I would be glad to hear about it |
| 03:32.46 | dvs | allix: Pretty much |
| 03:32.58 | odla | allix: see topic |
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| 03:33.01 | allix | what kernal would they be |
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| 03:33.03 | dvs | allix: There are a few packages that were upgraded since. |
| 03:33.11 | dvs | allix: 2.4.27 and 2.6.8 |
| 03:33.27 | allix | i could get my system running |
| 03:34.22 | mathias64 | dvs: I thought the stock initrds didn't have usb modules in them, so you can't boot from a usb root |
| 03:34.53 | litage | hammerabi: yup, you can |
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| 03:36.52 | lotusleaf | I installed Debian 30r4 on an old P133 box, CLI only, and went through the upgrade process to stable. In doing so, in my logs I saw 'chat' receiving messages about Windows being infected and to visit various websites. What is this about and how do I disable it? I removed diald which I didn't need, but this issue continues. Any ideas? |
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| 03:37.23 | bgat | dondelelcaro: so far, db.h is only found in /usr/include |
| 03:37.40 | litage | if someone's got a screen session going, is it possible to attach to their screen session and watch what they're doing? |
| 03:37.49 | mathias64 | bgat: you can look in /usr/include/db.h to see what version it is. |
| 03:37.52 | bgat | dondelelcaro: ... and its DB_VERSION_PATCH is 28. hmmm |
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| 03:37.59 | mathias64 | litage: only if they turn on the permissions |
| 03:38.10 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: chat? this is ... interesting ... which log? |
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| 03:38.22 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, I believe /var/log/messages |
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| 03:38.37 | smartmlp | hello |
| 03:38.43 | LinuxNIT-laptop | hey guys im trying to install baghira cvs and all went well till i got to make and then i got these errors any ideas http://pastebin.com/474572 |
| 03:38.43 | odla | hi |
| 03:38.45 | mathias64 | lotusleaf: /usr/sbin/chat is in the ppp package. |
| 03:38.50 | FourierSeries | ok. Um, do you know how to use the paste thingie? |
| 03:39.00 | odla | FourierSeries: www.pastebin.com |
| 03:39.00 | bgat | dondelelcaro: is the version compiled into any perl stuff? (would be an odd thing to do) |
| 03:39.01 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, in it said 'debian chat' followed by messages about a windows registry being corrupted and giving urls to fix it, I found it amusing but disturbing |
| 03:39.08 | w000 | is there a place I can find 2.6.14 in deb? it's stable and i can't find a package |
| 03:39.10 | lotusleaf | mathias64, thanks, any idea what's going on? |
| 03:39.52 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, I'm not on my Debian box ATM so I can't paste the logs :( |
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| 03:40.03 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: off hand it sounds like someone is being coy and flooding your logs ,, |
| 03:40.03 | smartmlp | my debian computer wont connect to the internet |
| 03:40.04 | mathias64 | lotusleaf: can you paste some of the log output on pastebin.com? Just the lines about the chat spam |
| 03:40.09 | cheal | w000: yes, sid |
| 03:40.18 | smartmlp | where would i start to debug this program |
| 03:40.21 | smartmlp | problem* |
| 03:40.34 | lotusleaf | mathias64, as per above, sadly, I can't paste the logs as I'm not on that box atm, I pulled it offline until I can ascertain the issue |
| 03:40.34 | allix | there is a slackware 64 but not all packages are compiled for it,thats what made me try debian |
| 03:40.34 | allix | you may have a convert |
| 03:40.36 | mathias64 | pastebin.com |
| 03:40.41 | odla | isn't 2.6.14 available at backports.org as well? |
| 03:40.49 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: I get all sorts of crazy shoot in my httpd log. "get COME VISIT US AT www.blah.com" that sort of thing ... |
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| 03:41.09 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, so is this normal? |
| 03:41.13 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: someone would have to see the logs to really give a good answer. |
| 03:41.27 | w000 | cheal; whats sid? |
| 03:41.30 | liable | odla: you could always compile it if you really need it |
| 03:41.38 | mathias64 | allix: the debian amd64 port is fairly complete. the howto explains everything |
| 03:41.44 | odla | w000: you could get 2.6.14 from backports.org complied for sarge...http://www.backports.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux-2.6/ |
| 03:41.48 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, what was especially disturbing was that during these 'Windows is infected' type of messages, it said 'enter your url' and my chat script sent information back to whatever, so that was scary |
| 03:41.52 | odla | liable: well sure...but why bother if there's a deb? |
| 03:42.10 | liable | odla: dont, if there is one. |
| 03:42.11 | odla | liable: apt-get install...and wait for the magic |
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| 03:42.22 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: mmm... you *are* running this chat thing on the Debian box yes? |
| 03:42.25 | smartmlp | can anyone help me? |
| 03:42.31 | odla | smartmlp: what's your question |
| 03:42.35 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, yes, no other OS is installed |
| 03:42.47 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, most of the logs with these issues mentioned 'diald' which I removed |
| 03:42.49 | smartmlp | my internet isnt working on my debian box, I cant "ping" or do anything internet related |
| 03:42.54 | smartmlp | where would i start to debug this? |
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| 03:42.55 | cheal | !tell w000 about sid |
| 03:43.09 | odla | smartmlp: modem, ethernet, wireless? |
| 03:43.15 | smartmlp | ethernet |
| 03:43.20 | smartmlp | there is 2 cards if that matters |
| 03:43.20 | mathias64 | smartmlp: first, make sure you know what network card the box has. then make sure the card shows up in lspci. then make sure the network driver is loaded. then make sure /etc/network/interfaces is correct. then run ifconfig to start the interface |
| 03:43.28 | odla | smartmlp: do you have the correct driver? |
| 03:43.39 | smartmlp | ifconfig shoes an IP address assigned |
| 03:43.42 | smartmlp | from dynamic |
| 03:43.44 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: Ok. Like i said, at a guess, someone is just playing games with you. You'd want to post the logs and let someone knowledgeable nail that down., |
| 03:43.55 | odla | smartmlp: run network-admin |
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| 03:44.01 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, thanks, I appreciate yours and mathias64 |
| 03:44.04 | lotusleaf | 's help on this :) |
| 03:44.11 | smartmlp | ok brb |
| 03:44.30 | allix | "1TiB physical memory support instead of 4GiB (or 64GiB with the PAE extension)" that would have to be a large database |
| 03:44.38 | odla | smartmlp: make sure it's activated |
| 03:44.57 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, should I just get the iptables set up correctly and not worry about this? put it back online and continue updating? |
| 03:44.58 | bgat | can I do a plaintext search in bugs.debian.org? I want to know if anything similar to/related to my error message has been reported. |
| 03:45.00 | qtac | I'm trying to set up a proxy server that gives un-restricted access to the net to all machines other than 5 (preferably locked down with MAC addresses) which only have access to limited sites. sorry for the broad question, but how do I do this? |
| 03:45.01 | odla | smartmlp: i'm assuming you have gnome installed as well |
| 03:45.04 | liable | wtf is network-admin? |
| 03:45.06 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, the box wasn't firewalled :P |
| 03:45.08 | w000 | cheal; wuts bpo1_ ? |
| 03:45.16 | odla | liable: a gnome network tool |
| 03:45.17 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, or should I reinstall? |
| 03:45.18 | liable | ah, gnome shit. |
| 03:45.20 | smartmlp | odla: I have nothing installed |
| 03:45.21 | liable | s |
| 03:45.28 | liable | :) |
| 03:45.30 | odla | hmm |
| 03:45.32 | smartmlp | I installed off the internet install cd |
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| 03:45.40 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: that's not great; but, do you have any personal info on that box? |
| 03:45.43 | odla | i think you can do it with ifconfig or ipconfig |
| 03:45.46 | odla | one of those |
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| 03:45.54 | odla | what's lspci say? |
| 03:45.56 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, other than the information required for a dialup connection, no |
| 03:45.57 | smartmlp | and it was working all good until I got to the part where it asked for a apt-get server |
| 03:45.57 | mathias64 | lotusleaf: it's probably nothing. |
| 03:46.00 | odla | does it show your card |
| 03:46.07 | lotusleaf | mathias64, k thx ;) |
| 03:46.22 | lotusleaf | the fact that 'chat' appeared to send back information though WAS disturbing |
| 03:46.23 | smartmlp | yes |
| 03:46.25 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: in that case, continue with the install / firewall setup / and learn. |
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| 03:46.31 | smartmlp | only 1 of my 2 cards |
| 03:46.35 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, thanks :) |
| 03:46.39 | mathias64 | lotusleaf: type `locate chat' and see what you find. |
| 03:46.39 | lotusleaf | Appreciate the help you two ! :) |
| 03:46.40 | odla | what's it say in /etc/network/inferfaces |
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| 03:47.02 | lotusleaf | mathias64, thanks, I did that and other than the dial up related chat entires it found the chat program |
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| 03:47.11 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: It;s possible someone could hack a fresh install; but, I think the learning experiance is more important for you now. |
| 03:47.15 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: Also .. |
| 03:47.38 | _shad_ | Does anyone know the name of the package that makes an ascii banner out of the letters of the words? |
| 03:47.39 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: post the logs to someone who can double check just to be sure. Would not hurt. |
| 03:48.14 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, thanks. The only other thing that worried me was a 'crash' entry listed in a 'last' lookup which corresponded with some odd entires in my logs as well, with tons of --MARK-- |
| 03:48.23 | liable | smartmlp: so ifconfig shows an ip yes? says its up, running? |
| 03:48.26 | smartmlp | odla: it has my card and dhcp and other things next to it (eth0) |
| 03:48.33 | smartmlp | liable: correct |
| 03:48.38 | botsy | i have install squid with apt-get (debian), i have version 2.5 stable , --enable-auth=basic is active .. do you know if it's necessary i recompile squid for activate proxy_auth ? |
| 03:48.48 | liable | smartmlp: what does 'route' say |
| 03:48.58 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: that, actally may be normal, even debian can crash. |
| 03:49.03 | smo_ | ifconfig eth1 up smartmlp then ifconfig eth1 but verify the module for your card is loaded before doing that with lsmod |
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| 03:49.04 | botsy | because i have this error http://pastebin.com/474600 .. i have make my squid.conf just under the error on pastebin page .. |
| 03:49.08 | dondelelcaro | bgat: it's compiled in, but no perl stuff should care what the db.h file has in it. |
| 03:49.18 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, k thx, I'll configure some good firewall rules and see if the strange logs continue |
| 03:49.20 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: once again it;s tought to tell without seeing morem |
| 03:49.21 | puff | Anybody familiar with mysql? |
| 03:49.29 | puff | Are there any steps I should take to secure mysql after installing it via apt? |
| 03:49.36 | odla | smartmlp: do you have auto eth0 and auto lo |
| 03:49.36 | smartmlp | let me go see |
| 03:49.38 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, indeed, I should've came here with the logs prepared, my bad. ;/ |
| 03:49.39 | dondelelcaro | puff: it's secure by default... |
| 03:49.43 | smartmlp | odla: yes... |
| 03:49.54 | liable | smartmlp: also /etc/resolv.conf |
| 03:49.54 | smartmlp | and also "dhcp" |
| 03:50.06 | lotusleaf | does diald unconfigured present a vulnerability? |
| 03:50.07 | mathias64 | lotusleaf: -- Mark-- means the server was running. ``crash'' in a last lookup probably means the system crashed without being cleanly shut down. |
| 03:50.09 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: no biggie. just that every thing I say then comes with a disclaimer ... |
| 03:50.17 | puff | dondelelcaro: That's reassuring. |
| 03:50.26 | lotusleaf | mathias64, very good, thanks :) |
| 03:50.28 | dondelelcaro | puff: you may want to change the root password for mysql, and/or add your own users... |
| 03:50.30 | puff | dondelelcaro: Same go for postgres? |
| 03:50.33 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, heh |
| 03:50.37 | smartmlp | did I mention its connecting through a bridge? |
| 03:50.55 | dondelelcaro | puff: yes. neither of them allow remote connections by default, so they're fairly secure. postgresql generally even more so than mysql. |
| 03:51.21 | smo_ | whats your problem exactly smartmlp??? |
| 03:51.29 | puff | dondelelcaro: Okay, so they're externally secure by default, but not necessarily internally secure. |
| 03:51.52 | dondelelcaro | puff: for mysql, no, unless you've set changed the root password. for postgresql, yes. |
| 03:52.00 | smartmlp | cant use anything internet |
| 03:52.21 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: also, as mathias64 mentioned that "mark" message is normal. The kernel throws in a timestamp now & then ... |
| 03:52.23 | smo_ | you re on another pc now? |
| 03:52.28 | smartmlp | yes |
| 03:52.30 | smartmlp | my mac |
| 03:52.35 | smo_ | ok |
| 03:52.59 | smartmlp | the computer is connecting to the network via a brdige |
| 03:53.00 | puff | Thank you. |
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| 03:53.03 | smartmlp | bridge* |
| 03:53.07 | puff | dondelelcaro: Thank you. |
| 03:53.16 | smartmlp | on the computer its getting assigned a IP thats in the routers range |
| 03:53.18 | mathias64 | smartmlp: what does /sbin/ifconfig eth1 say? the first two lines are all that matter. |
| 03:53.32 | mathias64 | smartmlp: OK, so there is an IP. Can you ping the router? |
| 03:53.36 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries, thanks :) Could these messages just have been a Windows worm that got logged somehow since I wasn't blocking any ports? That's what I'm guessing. Anyway, thanks for the help and I'll continue from here setting up good firewall rules. |
| 03:53.36 | smartmlp | no I cant |
| 03:53.42 | smartmlp | but I can ping the bridge |
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| 03:54.16 | mathias64 | smartmlp: have other computers worked plugged into the same port as the debian box? |
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| 03:54.21 | FourierSeries | lotusleaf: you're welcome. And yes, my guess is that you are just logging a windows worm coming from another box. |
| 03:54.29 | smartmlp | no sir |
| 03:54.40 | Toba | hrm |
| 03:54.45 | smartmlp | the router is assigning a IP... that must mean something |
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| 03:54.58 | Toba | anyone here experienced with using the synaptic package manager to downgrade a package? |
| 03:55.04 | Toba | for some reason the force version option is grayed out |
| 03:55.05 | mathias64 | smartmlp: hmm. what is the ip of your computer, the ip of the router, and what is the Mask: that ifconfig reports, |
| 03:55.12 | lotusleaf | FourierSeries + mathias64: Again, thanks for your help, I appreciate it. :) |
| 03:55.25 | dondelelcaro | Toba: you have to have multiple versions available in order to do that for starters. |
| 03:55.30 | mathias64 | mathias64: when you try to ping the router, do you get any error message? |
| 03:55.44 | mathias64 | smartmlp: when you try to ping the router, do you get any error message? |
| 03:55.50 | smartmlp | yes |
| 03:55.50 | smo_ | ;) |
| 03:55.50 | Toba | dondelelcaro: I see that |
| 03:55.53 | FourierSeries | mathias64: well? |
| 03:55.55 | smartmlp | destination unreachable |
| 03:55.57 | mathias64 | smartmlp: and it is.... |
| 03:55.59 | FourierSeries | ;-) |
| 03:56.04 | Toba | it's odd, it upgraded by I guess the other version is no longer available |
| 03:56.08 | Toba | in the repo |
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| 03:56.11 | Toba | :( |
| 03:56.41 | smartmlp | ips: me: 192.168.2.101 router: 192.168.2.1 debian box: 192.168.2.104 |
| 03:57.02 | mathias64 | smartmlp: what is the Mask: on the debian box (from ifconfig) |
| 03:57.12 | smartmlp | mask is 192.168.2.255 |
| 03:57.22 | FourierSeries | o_O |
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| 03:57.25 | smo_ | !!!! |
| 03:57.25 | dpkg | "Multiple exclamation marks," he went on, shaking his head, "are a sure sign of a diseased mind." - Terry Pratchett, Eric |
| 03:57.32 | lotusleaf | lol |
| 03:57.36 | FourierSeries | lol |
| 03:57.41 | smo_ | ;) |
| 03:57.43 | mathias64 | smartmlp: what error do you get when you try to ping the router? |
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| 03:57.52 | smartmlp | "destination host unreachable" |
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| 03:58.07 | tictac | what package is cc1plus located in? |
| 03:58.09 | smartmlp | when I ping the bridge it works |
| 03:58.18 | mathias64 | what is the IP of the bridge? |
| 03:58.26 | smartmlp | 192.168.2.103 |
| 03:58.47 | mathias64 | can you ping the debian box from the mac box? |
| 03:58.53 | smartmlp | let me try |
| 03:59.09 | mathias64 | i bet that you will just lose all the packets |
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| 03:59.33 | FourierSeries | is his "mask" really 192.168.2.255? |
| 03:59.52 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: I hope not |
| 04:00.02 | mathias64 | I hope that's the broadcast addr. |
| 04:00.10 | FourierSeries | bcast. yes. |
| 04:00.13 | smartmlp | could be |
| 04:00.18 | smartmlp | its from memory |
| 04:00.43 | mathias64 | smartmlp: the mask is the one on the far right, it ought to be 255.255.255.0. I also would like you to run ``route -n '' and tell us what's there |
| 04:00.49 | mathias64 | on the debian box |
| 04:00.56 | smartmlp | hang on |
| 04:01.10 | smartmlp | my ping is not going threw |
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| 04:01.15 | smartmlp | its not giving me any errors at all |
| 04:01.23 | smartmlp | just locking there |
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| 04:01.40 | orzo | How do I shut off the screen blank in X ? |
| 04:01.44 | mathias64 | smartmlp: route -n just lock up? no output at all? |
| 04:02.08 | puff | Hm, I have my old /etc/bind directory and this newly installed box. old:/etc/bind/named.conf and new:/etc/bind/named.conf are identical. However, old:/etc/bind/ has a bunch of foo.com files in it. |
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| 04:02.25 | puff | As well as foo.com.### files, where ## appears to be somewhat random characters. |
| 04:02.32 | puff | Do I just copy the foo.com files into new:/etc/bind? |
| 04:02.43 | deufo | hi peeps, if rite now i'm using suse and i got linux raid, when install deian, could i sill use software raid? |
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| 04:02.49 | Lyes | Hi |
| 04:02.57 | FourierSeries | puff: someone was running the old box as a nameserver. |
| 04:03.04 | Lyes | I want to download a debian version for iMac G3 |
| 04:03.16 | mathias64 | Lyes: go for it |
| 04:03.19 | FourierSeries | puff: you want the new box to run as a name server? |
| 04:03.25 | Lyes | Where |
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| 04:03.36 | Lyes | i didn't find a it on the website |
| 04:03.43 | puff | FourierSeries: yes. |
| 04:03.57 | puff | FourierSeries: I was holding econdary DNs for a friend., |
| 04:04.02 | FourierSeries | ah |
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| 04:04.11 | mathias64 | smartmlp: are you there? any luck with route -n? |
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| 04:04.31 | FourierSeries | puff: are the versions of bind exactly the same? you said that the conf files are ... |
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| 04:04.33 | Lyes | So, is there a link for Debian ppc ? |
| 04:04.50 | SimonRaven | Lyes: same place |
| 04:05.01 | mathias64 | Lyes: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/powerpc/index.html.zh_CN |
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| 04:05.05 | smartmlp | mathias64: yes |
| 04:05.07 | smartmlp | it works |
| 04:05.12 | puff | FourierSeries: I'm pretty sure they are, I synchronized the package lists. |
| 04:05.16 | mathias64 | smartmlp: what works? |
| 04:05.18 | SimonRaven | "i don't think we're in redhat anymore, toto" |
| 04:05.19 | Lyes | 10x |
| 04:05.28 | smartmlp | route -n |
| 04:05.31 | smartmlp | gives me 2 lines |
| 04:05.34 | FourierSeries | puff: you can try it - that;s what I did when I migrated my name server. It should not hurt. |
| 04:05.46 | mathias64 | smartmlp: what are the ip addresses in the two lines? |
| 04:06.00 | puff | FourierSeries: cool. |
| 04:06.03 | FourierSeries | puff: and you should get your old name space, etc, back. |
| 04:06.30 | smartmlp | Destination: 192.168.2.0 |
| 04:06.54 | smartmlp | Gateway: 192.168.2.1 |
| 04:07.12 | smartmlp | 255.255.255.0 |
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| 04:07.44 | smartmlp | thats off 2 lines |
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| 04:08.12 | mathias64 | smartmlp: that's probably the problem. Your debian box thinks the router 192.168.2.1 is the default gw but really the bridge 192.168.2.103 is the first gateway from your box |
| 04:08.16 | puff | FourierSeries: Hm, 8.4.6-1 on the new box... how would I check the old box, when the old box isn't running any more? |
| 04:08.35 | smartmlp | mathias isnt it the router that assigns the IP, not the gateway... |
| 04:08.38 | puff | FourierSeries: Damn, I can't find it in my notes, I know I figured out how to get dpkg to use the old apt list to list the packages. |
| 04:08.43 | smartmlp | err bridge I ment |
| 04:09.11 | FourierSeries | puff: can you find the old bind daemon? it should be in /sbin or /usr/sbin ... |
| 04:09.13 | mathias64 | mathias64: well, the router might well be running the dhcp server; the dhcp server could be in china, and it would still not affect what your default gateway ought to be. |
| 04:09.32 | smartmlp | what do I change |
| 04:09.36 | mathias64 | err smartmlp I meant |
| 04:09.38 | FourierSeries | puff: you should be able to do something like "named -v" to get the version |
| 04:09.50 | FourierSeries | puff: I'll try on mine .. one sec .. |
| 04:10.20 | puff | FourierSeries: nah, I only have /home, /var/lib, /etc and /htdocs off the old box (tried to dd a disk image, but after an hour I realized that the image has to be as big as the old disk, _including_ the empty space, soooo...) |
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| 04:10.30 | smartmlp | ? |
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| 04:10.41 | mathias64 | smartmlp: the first thing to do is to double-check the problem. Can you plug the debian box into the local network of the router, without going through the bridge? |
| 04:10.56 | smartmlp | yes but I will have to move it |
| 04:11.00 | puff | Ah... I'll bet it's dpkg --admindir |
| 04:11.12 | mathias64 | smartmlp: OK, well, don't do that right yet. |
| 04:11.20 | smartmlp | ok... |
| 04:11.38 | FourierSeries | puff: Oh, ok. well I think you can savely copy the old files over. Give it a shot. really the worst that will happen is that bind will refuse to run. Assuming you did nothing radical on the old box. |
| 04:11.44 | mathias64 | smartmlp: there are two things we have to change. These are wrong because the router told them to the debian box as if there is no bridge but there is a bridge. |
| 04:12.11 | mathias64 | The first thing is the netmask. The netmask need to include only IP addresses on the same side of the bridge, and including the bridge, as the debian box |
| 04:12.12 | smartmlp | ok well I can just move it |
| 04:12.17 | smartmlp | I didnt know it would be this much trouble |
| 04:12.20 | puff | FourierSeries: good point :-). |
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| 04:12.39 | mathias64 | smartmlp: try moving it and see if it works. if it does, that means the router is giving bogus info via dhcp |
| 04:12.43 | netman1 | [OT] for a native English speaker: is it "a ssh agent" or "an ssh agent"? |
| 04:12.50 | mathias64 | an ssh agent |
| 04:12.54 | puff | FourierSeries: "dpkg --admindir=/old/var/lib/apt -l bind" seems to indicate same version, yay. |
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| 04:13.03 | netman1 | maathias64 : thanks |
| 04:13.12 | smartmlp | indeed |
| 04:13.12 | FourierSeries | puff: that's good! go for it. |
| 04:13.27 | smartmlp | my mac box didnt have any problems with the bridge when I used to use it with it |
| 04:13.34 | smartmlp | pluged it right in and I was off |
| 04:13.59 | mathias64 | smartmlp: so the mac box worked when it was on the other side of the bridge, but the debian one doesn't? hmm |
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| 04:14.41 | FourierSeries | mathias64: set the debian box to the same IP as the MAC and try? |
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| 04:14.59 | SimonRaven | Mac, it's not a MAC address |
| 04:15.36 | FourierSeries | hmm .. he could dup the MAC address as well; but, you know whut i mean ... |
| 04:15.40 | FourierSeries | :-P |
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| 04:16.08 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: the router is his default gw, and is in his netmask, but he needs to go through a bridge to get to the router, so I think that means the bridge needs to be his default gw, and the netmask needs to shrink. |
| 04:16.33 | SimonRaven | makes sense |
| 04:17.00 | FourierSeries | mathias64: sounds good here. Would not hurt to change it ( the gw ) try it? |
| 04:17.26 | puff | FourierSeries: So what is the story with the foo.com.### fileS? |
| 04:17.33 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: I think he's going to just plug in the box in the same segment as the router to see if that makes it work (I want to double check the problem before fixing it) |
| 04:17.41 | tuxlon | can anyone help me with my wireless pcmcia card??? |
| 04:18.01 | FourierSeries | mathias64: that also sounds good to me. |
| 04:18.30 | FourierSeries | puff: probably they are just old play/test files. |
| 04:18.32 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: the other problem is that the default route and netmask are set by dhcp, so the router's dhcp settings are what need to be fixed. |
| 04:18.51 | FourierSeries | oh boy. |
| 04:19.04 | puff | FourierSeries: Hm, odd, I don't recognize that format for backup/test files. |
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| 04:19.20 | FourierSeries | this network's complexity is starting to ramp up. why the bridge? |
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| 04:20.00 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: dont ask me, it's not my network |
| 04:20.17 | FourierSeries | puff: actually - as a good test - just delete the foo.xxx.### files ( or whatever they are called ) and try it. I would save a copy of them tho' |
| 04:20.24 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: dont ask me, it's not my network. maybe a physical distance limitation |
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| 04:21.17 | Miks | anyone use freenet6 for ipv6? |
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| 04:22.04 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: see, the bridge could be set up to automatically forward everything (like a bridge) in which case he wouldn't need to change any settings. That's why I want to check what happens when the bridge is removed. |
| 04:22.28 | FourierSeries | mathias64: I keep an eye out - If I see anything ( hopefully usefull ) I'll sound out. |
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| 04:22.55 | FourierSeries | mathias64: and ya' I kinda thought that a bridge should be transparent .... |
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| 04:23.43 | mathias64 | FourierSeries: well, it's either a nontransparent bridge or a routing problem on the debian box, so i want to remove one of the two options. |
| 04:23.44 | sfullenwider | What's the best way to play an mp3 at maximum volume for an alarm effect? |
| 04:23.53 | sfullenwider | like to wake my lazy self up at 6:00am? |
| 04:24.14 | mathias64 | sfullenwider: record it to a tape and place it in a K001 car stereo |
| 04:24.25 | SimonRaven | sox, aplay, and turn up the mixer levels? |
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| 04:24.34 | sfullenwider | mathias64: Lets assume I make it to my house |
| 04:24.47 | smo_ | kalarm |
| 04:24.58 | liable | doesnt xmms have a alarm plug in? |
| 04:25.08 | smo_ | yes too |
| 04:25.16 | mathias64 | sfullenwider: at 6:00 <enter> sox foo.mp3 <enter> ^D |
| 04:25.39 | mathias64 | sfullenwider: and make sure at will have permission to open the audio devices. |
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| 04:26.22 | SimonRaven | doh! forgot about the fricking perms... did that a couple times... |
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| 04:27.08 | mathias64 | security is the bane of cronjobs |
| 04:27.52 | SimonRaven | yeh |
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| 04:28.53 | thc | SimonRaven: do you have problems with mocp not exiting cleanly when you try and q from inside a screen |
| 04:29.03 | thc | the screen terminates but mocp will still play the file until i kill it |
| 04:29.21 | puff | FourierSeries: Hm, there's /etc/init.d/bind and /etc/init.d/bind9. I wonder why. |
| 04:30.05 | mathias64 | all right, good night everyone |
| 04:30.09 | thc | actually, it does the same thing when you run it without screen |
| 04:30.26 | FourierSeries | puff: that's interesting ... you want one or the other ... |
| 04:30.35 | FourierSeries | um ... |
| 04:30.37 | puff | FourierSeries: Yeah. |
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| 04:31.41 | FourierSeries | puff: you can "grep named /etc/inid.d/bind" and then the one for "~9" and see if they are pointing to different daemons |
| 04:32.41 | FourierSeries | puff: oh, what run level do you run at? is this just a "command line" box? |
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| 04:33.13 | puff | FourierSeries: I'm not sure what you mean by a "command line" box... mostly people log into it via ssh, it has a web server and other odds and ends on it. |
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| 04:33.26 | smartmlp | ok |
| 04:33.32 | smartmlp | how do I config what servers apt-get uses |
| 04:33.35 | FourierSeries | puff: Ok, so no "X" desktop, etc. |
| 04:33.57 | thc | smartmlp: apt-setup, unless you intend to upgrade or something |
| 04:33.58 | puff | FourierSeries: Ah, correct. |
| 04:34.17 | FourierSeries | puff: do an "ls /etc/rc2.d" and see if there is a link to one, or the other, or both. |
| 04:34.56 | FourierSeries | puff: the "bind" thing that is ... |
| 04:35.20 | puff | FourierSeries: Both. Odd. |
| 04:35.49 | FourierSeries | puff: yeah, you are gonna have to determine which is the "real" one ... |
| 04:36.19 | smartmlp | cool |
| 04:36.21 | FourierSeries | puff: you do *not* want both running. |
| 04:36.52 | FourierSeries | smartmlp: look in /etc/apt/sources.list" |
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| 04:38.38 | smartmlp | its cool |
| 04:38.39 | smartmlp | I got it |
| 04:38.44 | smartmlp | downloading at 400kb/sec now |
| 04:38.45 | smartmlp | thanks |
| 04:38.45 | muaddib | question I am trying to install a windows prog from a cd using wine and it looks like it works but I get this error when entering the serial can't load PidGen.dll |
| 04:38.48 | muaddib | has anyone every seen this error |
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| 04:39.21 | thc | muaddib: /j #winehq |
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| 04:39.44 | FourierSeries | wow |
| 04:39.45 | zorzella | anyone, I upgraded to etch, and my emacs now only shows boxes in place of letters. Any idea? |
| 04:40.03 | sfullenwider | how do you get at to run a script? at 23:37 "/home/sfullenwider/alarm" ...syntax error. Last token seen: / Garbled time |
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| 04:44.11 | smartmlp | how come webmin wont install |
| 04:44.13 | raden | f something is made in KDE in a text editor and then i access through console and it has a space in the file name "example; text file " why do i have tp type " emacs text\ file" to edit in console ? ] |
| 04:44.41 | brynjarh_ | Does anyone know if there has been any talk about making official Debian backports? Possibly making backports more reliable/trustworthy? Or if that kind of a setup would be ridiculous and would help no one/very few people and would just be bad for the project? |
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| 04:45.20 | Coweater | raden: the \ escapes the space so it acts like one string, otherwise it'll take "file" as a second argument |
| 04:45.30 | smartmlp | its saying: hostname: unknown host |
| 04:45.37 | raden | Coweater, thank you for clearing that up for me sir :) |
| 04:45.40 | smartmlp | and then dpkg gives an error |
| 04:45.54 | smartmlp | error processing webmin (--config) |
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| 04:48.01 | smartmlp | err ok |
| 04:48.13 | pabs3 | whats a good mbox to maildir converter in debian? |
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| 04:50.00 | FourierSeries | smartmlp: methinks you have an error in your /etc/apt/sources.list did you just edit it recently? |
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| 04:50.52 | netman1 | Hi All. Running an ssh agent [thanks mathias64 ;-) ] with multiple private keys and multiple public keys in remote:~/.ssh/authorized_keys, how can I find out which key authorized me on the remote host? |
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| 04:54.22 | le_mackeux | Question: I have a big isue with managing my MTU over a pppoe line. It makes my setup(masquerading) pointless. I have problem with some/many websites and protocole. What's the big deal with it? |
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| 04:55.04 | valdyn | !clampmss |
| 04:55.36 | le_mackeux | I tried with and without the MSS option in the pppoeconf option and it's not fixing it |
| 04:56.18 | valdyn | le_mackeux: mss option? |
| 04:56.26 | valdyn | !listkeys clamp |
| 04:56.28 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'clamp' by key returned no results. |
| 04:56.32 | valdyn | !listkeys pppoe |
| 04:56.34 | dpkg | Factoid search of 'pppoe' by key (7): woody pppoe install ;; sarge pppoe netinst ;; pppoeconf ;; pppoe install ;; sample pppoe config ;; pppoe ;; netinstall over pppoe. |
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| 04:57.00 | valdyn | le_mackeux: you use shorewall? |
| 04:57.10 | le_mackeux | shorewall? what's that? |
| 04:57.19 | le_mackeux | no i don't ;) |
| 04:57.27 | le_mackeux | but what is it |
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| 04:58.19 | raden | Coweater, i did xterm -help and played a bit is there a way i can enlarge my font to like 13 pt ? |
| 04:58.28 | raden | i run awefully hi res... |
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| 04:58.59 | valdyn | le_mackeux: firewall framework where you can set clampmss |
| 04:59.10 | Coweater | raden: ctrl+right click |
| 04:59.17 | wwallace_lap | !kernel |
| 04:59.19 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.14.4, prepatch: 2.6.15-rc6, snapshot: 2.6.15-rc6-git2, 2.4: 2.4.32, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.15-rc5-mm3 |
| 04:59.21 | valdyn | le_mackeux: ( as root ): grep -iR clampmss /etc/ppp/ |
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| 04:59.28 | blanky | hey guys |
| 04:59.38 | valdyn | le_mackeux: ( as root ): grep -iR clamp /etc/ppp/ even |
| 04:59.39 | Coweater | raden: hold it down and select a font size |
| 05:00.04 | raden | Coweater, thanks :) |
| 05:00.12 | valdyn | le_mackeux: shorewall is a firewall |
| 05:00.18 | blanky | hey guys, if I want to update my kernel, must I compile it? |
| 05:00.49 | le_mackeux | valdyn: isn't clampmss an option into pppoeconf ? i tried with and without it. In the infos regarding clampmss it says that if i have my king of problem, it should fix it but it doesn't. (there is nothing with your grep) |
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| 05:01.14 | valdyn | le_mackeux: first line was wrong, did you run the 2nd ? |
| 05:01.15 | le_mackeux | blanky: depends on what you want to do and from what you want to upgrade |
| 05:01.31 | blanky | damn seriously, this isn't funny anymore, kubuntu-desktop = "teh" slowness, maybe kubuntu OS will be faster? |
| 05:01.52 | le_mackeux | valdyn: i didn't get the second one |
| 05:02.02 | valdyn | le_mackeux: ( as root ): grep -iR clamp /etc/ppp/ even |
| 05:02.12 | blanky | wrong channel |
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| 05:02.30 | le_mackeux | valdyn: what am i looking for |
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| 05:03.40 | valdyn | le_mackeux: what output are you getting for this grep command? |
| 05:04.12 | le_mackeux | 4 lines, 2 from the ip-up.d and 2 from the ip-down.d |
| 05:04.46 | le_mackeux | in the ip-pd, there is one saying that Enable MSS clamping(autogenerated by pppoeconf) |
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| 05:05.48 | valdyn | le_mackeux: ok, you're having issues when accessing those sites from just that box or from others that are being NATed? |
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| 05:06.16 | Coweater | raden: that's non-permanent, i'm not sure how to set it permanently seems you have to put something in .Xresources |
| 05:06.29 | le_mackeux | I'm not having problem on that box but, i'm having problem on all clien into my lan |
| 05:07.00 | raden | Coweater, k.. k... |
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| 05:07.24 | SimonRaven | it's a PerfDave |
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| 05:07.32 | Elijah | hi all, i told my problem yesterdey, and two guys told me something . but de problem is same sa before. |
| 05:08.08 | Elijah | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.16 | ohad | hi, how do i fix this issue that when i try to apt-get : W: GPG error: http://debian.linux-systeme.com sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F35E97D46941C9D8? |
| 05:08.25 | valdyn | le_mackeux: i suspect due to your firewall rule order that clampmss rule cant fix your issue because its not being used |
| 05:08.49 | PerfDave | SimonRaven: Where? :) |
| 05:09.01 | Elijah | Linux Kernel Source tree not found |
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| 05:09.33 | le_mackeux | Valdyn: i tryed with/out the rules enabled. I only let the masquerade on. |
| 05:09.38 | valdyn | le_mackeux: paste your rule script somewhere and the output of iptables --list |
| 05:09.58 | valdyn | le_mackeux: removing it sure wont help |
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| 05:10.12 | SimonRaven | PerfDave: :) |
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| 05:10.15 | valdyn | le_mackeux: but it needs to be on top, to assure its applied in any case |
| 05:10.25 | le_mackeux | ok |
| 05:10.29 | le_mackeux | where can i paste it |
| 05:10.37 | valdyn | !paste |
| 05:10.38 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 05:12.12 | Ziengux | I installed Debiano today and tried to install Gnome also and the xfree86 says it has the wrong drivers I think I picked the wrong display for my video card it is a PNY and I picked VS it said it was going to let me go into the settings of xfree86 but just goes to root what do I need to type in the change the settings in xfree86? |
| 05:12.22 | Ziengux | Debian. |
| 05:13.05 | liable | !drxx Ziengux |
| 05:13.05 | dpkg | Ziengux: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:14.18 | Ziengux | let me try that thanks! |
| 05:14.25 | PerfDave | Debiano, el bandito de Debian! |
| 05:14.30 | Ziengux | lol |
| 05:14.47 | smartmlp | how do I get back to the package chooser thing |
| 05:14.57 | PerfDave | I hear he scarred a spiral into the cheek of Bill Gates with his Free Software rapier |
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| 05:16.38 | smartmlp | well? |
| 05:17.21 | SimonRaven | i am, thanks |
| 05:17.45 | Ziengux | does anyone know what X server driver is for a PNY video card? |
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| 05:19.00 | nosklo | smartmlp, aptitude |
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| 05:19.46 | liable | Ziengux: google the output from lspci for it.. |
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| 05:20.28 | Ziengux | alright |
| 05:22.25 | le_mackeux | valdyn: you have any idea? |
| 05:22.49 | spatulasnout | My remote server is in a weird state. After rebooting, I can log in over ssh, see the motd and the "Last login..." message, and then it closes the ssh conection on me! Any thoughts as to what might possibly cause that? |
| 05:23.38 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: Something odd in .bashrc or .bash_profile? Probably worth running ssh with -v (or -vv or even -vvv) to see if there's anything weird happening at that level first. |
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| 05:24.36 | spatulasnout | PerfDave: will try ssh -v*, thx |
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| 05:25.05 | a1fa | omg |
| 05:25.08 | a1fa | i hate unstable |
| 05:25.29 | a1fa | i just apt-got the neweset 2.6.14-2-k7 kernel, and now it hangs after loading linux... (lilo) |
| 05:25.30 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: If everything seems fine, try "ssh -c /bin/sh user@host" to get a prompt up and examine your .bash_profile |
| 05:25.42 | liable | a1fa: see /topic |
| 05:25.53 | a1fa | nice |
| 05:26.00 | a1fa | way to read this shit after update |
| 05:26.05 | a1fa | i got two broken kernels now |
| 05:26.17 | a1fa | no way to recover |
| 05:26.32 | spatulasnout | perfdave: didn't see anything odd.. will try "ssh -c /bin/sh .." now |
| 05:26.33 | a1fa | rescue cd for me |
| 05:26.38 | smartmlp | how do I set up squid to be a transparent prox |
| 05:26.54 | a1fa | smartmlp: use iptables |
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| 05:27.54 | spatulasnout | PerfDave: apparently ssh -c ... is for "cipher type"... it says unknown cypher type /bin/sh ? |
| 05:28.11 | smartmlp | cool |
| 05:28.22 | smartmlp | how do I set webmin so I can see it other then the computer its on |
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| 05:32.58 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: Whoops, I misread man ssh |
| 05:33.10 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: You want "ssh user@host /bin/sh" |
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| 05:33.44 | PerfDave | Or possibly /bin/bash --noprofile |
| 05:34.40 | a1fa | liable: how would you recover from this? |
| 05:34.45 | spatulasnout | PerfDave: ahh ok, i guessed that might have been what you'd meant... with -vvv i can see it saying, "Sending command: /bin/bash --noprofile", but the remote still closes the link... same with /bin/sh... strange. :( |
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| 05:35.35 | liable | a1fa: actually i dunno if your problem is the same. but either way, a rescue disk will be involved :) have you read the bugs? |
| 05:36.27 | a1fa | yup |
| 05:36.36 | a1fa | i am going to have to bust out a rescue cdrom |
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| 05:36.37 | a1fa | and keyboard |
| 05:36.38 | a1fa | :* |
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| 05:36.52 | spatulasnout | It's surprising with no command to ssh, it does appear to get fairly far (motd and "Last login").... bizarro. |
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| 05:38.28 | MrKrrtft | hi folks |
| 05:39.17 | a1fa | ~piix |
| 05:39.24 | MrKrrtft | I'm compiling qemu, but it needs gcc 3.x. I installed gcc-3.4, but do not know how to tell ./configure to use the gcc-3.4 and not gcc which is v.4. Any ideas? |
| 05:39.29 | puff | My apache2 ssl cert is showing as out of date, is there a convenient script for regenerating a self-CA'd cert? |
| 05:39.39 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: I *think* that the motd and last login are provided by the ssh server, not by the shell |
| 05:40.57 | spatulasnout | PerfDave: ahh, interesting :( hmmmmmmmmmm |
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| 05:41.20 | MrKrrtft | How do i tell ./configure to use gcc-3.4 instead of gcc (v.4) ? |
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| 05:42.07 | a1fa | ~yaird |
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| 05:42.23 | dondelelcaro | MrKrrtft: generally you set CC and or CXX. |
| 05:42.23 | PerfDave | MrKrrtft: Possibly by setting the CC environment variable. If you're compiling something, (a) make sure it's not already provided in the Debian repositories (like qemu is), and (b) make sure you compile into a safe place - /msg dpkg usrlocal |
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| 05:45.48 | a1fa | buggt' |
| 05:45.49 | a1fa | nice |
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| 05:46.01 | MrKrrtft | PerfDave: qemu is provided, but not kqemu the kernel moduel that speeds it up. It's going to install into /usr/local i believe. i'll check |
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| 05:46.25 | sciboy | Hey guys, taking a second try at getting my Epson C45 to print ANYTHING. |
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| 05:46.41 | sciboy | I look at dmesg after plugging it in and i found this... |
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| 05:47.04 | Boukensya | hey guys. I am just wondering where the routes are found (the file) in a debian box |
| 05:47.05 | sciboy | drivers/usb/class/usblp.c: usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x04B8 pid 0x0005 |
| 05:47.11 | sciboy | lp: driver loaded but no devices found |
| 05:47.33 | sciboy | But lsusb shows : Bus 003 Device 002: ID 04b8:0005 Seiko Epson Corp. Stylus Printer |
| 05:47.49 | sciboy | What's going on? =| |
| 05:48.37 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: they're set in /etc/network/interfaces often... |
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| 05:49.49 | Boukensya | dondelelcaro, cool thanks |
| 05:49.58 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 05:50.31 | Boukensya | just add a static route. |
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| 05:51.06 | Boukensya | permentently |
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| 05:52.56 | bradd | hey guys.. I'm following the setup for alsa and it requires 'alsa-modules-*' where * is the kernel.. I installed 2.6 from default but only 2.4 modules are available.. any pointers as to what I should do? |
| 05:52.59 | smartmlp | whats the login to webmin? |
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| 05:53.17 | LoneWlf794 | Anyone know how to restore default permissions to base files on Debian 3.1? |
| 05:53.28 | dondelelcaro | Boukensya: just add it as an up command to the interface that should have the route on it. |
| 05:53.33 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: reinstall the packages in question. |
| 05:53.45 | LoneWlf794 | Um... it's all files in /*/* |
| 05:54.04 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: using chmod -R are we? |
| 05:54.18 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: in any case, the solution is still to reinstall the packages in question. |
| 05:54.21 | dondelelcaro | !reinstall |
| 05:54.21 | dpkg | from memory, reinstall is COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install, or dpkg --get-selections > packages , then later, dpkg --set-selections < packages && apt-get install |
| 05:54.24 | LoneWlf794 | chgrp actually :) |
| 05:54.33 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: use the first command. |
| 05:54.34 | Boukensya | thanks |
| 05:54.50 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: you'll have to manually change anything in /home, and anything in /var/spool/cron/ FE. |
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| 05:55.18 | spatulasnout | PerfDave: for the sake of closure :) .... it turned out due to having incorrect write permission, /lib/ld-2.3.2.so was denied exec by my grsec kernel... Thx for your help in troubleshooting. |
| 05:55.41 | LoneWlf794 | Wow, which of those should I do now? |
| 05:55.51 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l | awk '/^[hi]i/{print $2}' | xargs apt-get -y --reinstall install |
| 05:56.00 | LoneWlf794 | Thanks. |
| 05:56.05 | PerfDave | spatulasnout: Groovy, glad you've got it working |
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| 05:56.18 | PerfDave | Brendon: alsa modules are included in 2.6 kernels IIRC |
| 05:56.20 | PerfDave | Whoops |
| 05:56.29 | PerfDave | bradd: alsa modules are included in 2.6 kernels IIRC |
| 05:57.01 | bradd | oh.. well alsaconf doesn't detect my sound card.. (it does on other distros) |
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| 05:57.23 | Christophe971 | fucked, i'd always rtfm, so no one ever "RTFM!" to me... |
| 05:57.26 | Christophe971 | please ? |
| 05:57.28 | LoneWlf794 | Okay, tried that command and got 2 erros. |
| 05:57.31 | LoneWlf794 | errors** |
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| 05:57.57 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: which errors? |
| 05:57.59 | LoneWlf794 | Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 05:58.00 | LoneWlf794 | And... |
| 05:58.07 | Christophe971 | LoneWlf794: root ? |
| 05:58.17 | LoneWlf794 | Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 05:58.18 | dondelelcaro | LoneWlf794: are you root? is there another apt-get running? |
| 05:58.19 | Christophe971 | LoneWlf794: is there another dpkg process launched ? (synaptic ?) |
| 05:58.39 | LoneWlf794 | I logged in as root as I was locked out of my other account by the screensaver. |
| 05:58.53 | LoneWlf794 | So my other account is on and I can't remember what I may have had open. |
| 05:58.58 | LoneWlf794 | Any way to log it out from root? |
| 05:58.59 | Christophe971 | ps aux | grep apt |
| 05:59.00 | PerfDave | ps | grep apt |
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| 05:59.06 | Christophe971 | PerfDave: :) |
| 05:59.08 | PerfDave | LoneWlf794: How were you locked out? |
| 05:59.18 | Christophe971 | killall apt-get |
| 05:59.26 | Christophe971 | killall dpkg |
| 05:59.33 | Christophe971 | if you're sure of what you're doing |
| 05:59.37 | LoneWlf794 | Screensaver is set to lock the computer after 20 minutes and request a password on resume. |
| 05:59.47 | Christophe971 | so waht |
| 05:59.49 | Christophe971 | what* |
| 05:59.57 | LoneWlf794 | And it fails to authenticate since something's messed up. |
| 06:00.10 | LoneWlf794 | Just like I couldn't su for a while until I reset permissions on that file |
| 06:00.33 | smartmlp | anyone know what the login details are for webmin after you install it |
| 06:00.35 | Christophe971 | jeu déc 22 02:00:46 AST 2005 |
| 06:00.57 | PerfDave | Christophe971: LoneWlf794's entire system is hosed because all the permissions are shagged. |
| 06:01.06 | Christophe971 | woww |
| 06:01.13 | Christophe971 | beautiful shit |
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| 06:01.22 | Christophe971 | i've killed a macosx with a chmod -R 0777 / |
| 06:01.24 | LoneWlf794 | Very beautiful. |
| 06:01.46 | Christophe971 | (sorry for my english grammar, i'm french) |
| 06:01.50 | PerfDave | Christophe971: Best thing to do with MacOS X ;) |
| 06:01.56 | smartmlp | just tried that, doesnt work on my system |
| 06:01.57 | Christophe971 | PerfDave: :D |
| 06:01.59 | threat | Christophe971, that kills it? |
| 06:02.01 | smartmlp | you using the latest? |
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| 06:02.04 | Christophe971 | threat: one time |
| 06:02.08 | Christophe971 | after that |
| 06:02.15 | threat | Christophe971, that doesnt sound too deadly |
| 06:02.20 | Christophe971 | it refuse to boot |
| 06:02.34 | threat | unless yu have a bunch of n00bz with user accounts to your system |
| 06:02.37 | threat | haha |
| 06:02.40 | Christophe971 | you see lot's of errors... |
| 06:02.53 | threat | What problem complained? |
| 06:02.57 | threat | problem = program |
| 06:03.09 | PerfDave | threat: Uhm, lots of stuff will refuse to run if it doesn't like the permissions its got |
| 06:03.20 | fugit | is there a way to extract the contents of a win32 exe file? |
| 06:03.57 | PerfDave | fugit: If it's a self-extracting zipfile, you might be able to use unzip on it. |
| 06:03.59 | threat | PerfDave, oh yeah that reminds me, bind is a huge culpret of that |
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| 06:04.19 | PerfDave | fugit: Otherwise I guess you could try WINE or something. |
| 06:04.24 | fugit | PerfDave: its a win32 install ap. |
| 06:04.38 | fugit | PerfDave: thanks thats what I feared :-) |
| 06:04.53 | fugit | Quake4 map pack damn them |
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| 06:05.03 | harryl | what's a good kde package for watching VCD,DVD? |
| 06:05.16 | LoneWlf794 | Rebooting. My apt-get should work after this. |
| 06:05.17 | fugit | I'll just install it at work and grab the pak file thanks Perf |
| 06:05.24 | thc | harryl: apt-cache search dvd player |
| 06:05.29 | harryl | thanks |
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| 06:06.44 | MrKrrtft | PerfDave: ./configure --cc=gcc-3.4 --host-c=gcc-3.4 |
| 06:06.51 | MrKrrtft | that's what worked for the ./configure part :) |
| 06:06.59 | MrKrrtft | now if I could get "make" to work. |
| 06:07.00 | MrKrrtft | heh |
| 06:07.36 | harryl | thank you debian far from RH7 hell |
| 06:07.43 | gentoome | I got a fresh install I need too know how to change the display settings, by commandline |
| 06:07.44 | LinuxNIT-laptop | are there apt repositories for the latest kde? |
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| 06:08.56 | smartmlp | anyone here use webmin |
| 06:09.04 | threat | smartmlp, yes |
| 06:09.07 | Christophe971 | nope |
| 06:09.14 | smartmlp | what is the login details when you first install it |
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| 06:09.42 | MrKrrtft | does 'checkinstall' still exist for Debian Etch ? |
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| 06:09.51 | radical | hi, it seems i have got a hdd with some bad blocks. fs is reiser, i am unable to mount the partition and thus cannot acces my data. im dd'ing the partition onto a free disk right now, to maybe recover data from there. do you know of a better method? |
| 06:10.13 | thc | !ricerfs |
| 06:10.13 | dpkg | methinks ricerfs is the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 06:10.33 | radical | the fs is ok, its the drive thats dead |
| 06:10.45 | radical | well, nearly :) |
| 06:10.46 | MrKrrtft | ew |
| 06:10.53 | ssm | radical: It's not OK when I get syslog data in /etc/shadow, dammit |
| 06:10.57 | MrKrrtft | my windows hdd went "ping... ping..." |
| 06:11.11 | radical | ssm: ye, so? |
| 06:11.33 | radical | ssm: i didnt do it, i promise :) |
| 06:11.39 | ssm | radical: Hmmm, ok. :D |
| 06:12.02 | tuv | what is the difference between chroot and virtual machine software? |
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| 06:12.20 | ssm | tuv: Virtual Machine software often boots a kernel for each instance |
| 06:12.32 | radical | chroot just changes your root into something else, its still the same machine. |
| 06:12.47 | tuv | ssm: can't chroot with debootstrap do something like that? |
| 06:12.47 | ssm | tuv: chroot does not, and linux-vserver is something in between, it's chroot with a few added blindfolds |
| 06:12.48 | radical | a virtual machine offers an independent system |
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| 06:13.02 | ssm | tuv: do something like what? |
| 06:13.17 | tuv | ssm: like booting different kernels? |
| 06:13.35 | PerfDave | tuv: debootstrap is just a script to install a Debian base system in a particular folder, for use with chroots. |
| 06:13.48 | radical | go go gadget-o-harddrive |
| 06:16.58 | threat | radical, wtf |
| 06:16.58 | threat | weeeeeeeE! |
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| 06:18.47 | tuv | so i cannot boot different linux distro using chroot? |
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| 06:18.48 | Christophe971 | tuv: wait a minute :) |
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| 06:19.04 | ssm | tuv: It can help you test a different one, but it will not boot its kernel, chroot (and vserver) will use the already booted kernel |
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| 06:20.11 | tuv | ssm: does vserver require a kernel patch? is there a vserver-ready debian kernel or do i have to recompile a kernel myself? |
| 06:20.54 | LoneWlf794 | Night all, thanks for all the help. |
| 06:21.11 | sussudio | wtf? |
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| 06:21.26 | SlayerXP | tuv: those all sound like questions that would be answered by a visit to the vserver project homepage |
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| 06:21.37 | sussudio | why are these freenode disconnects giving my irssi heartburn with errors? |
| 06:21.47 | ssm | tuv look at http://packages.debian.org/unstable/net/util-vserver |
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| 06:21.54 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: I haven't seen a problem here... |
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| 06:22.12 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: !- Irssi: critical ignore_check: assertion `server != NULL' failed |
| 06:22.16 | smartmlp | *sigh* |
| 06:22.18 | sussudio | about 30 of those |
| 06:22.22 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: strange |
| 06:22.23 | smartmlp | webmin keeps telling my password is wrong |
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| 06:22.42 | Christophe971 | my irssi pass this without problems |
| 06:22.44 | sussudio | -!- Irssi: critical irssi_bless_iobject: assertion `(type &~0xffff) == 0' failed |
| 06:22.46 | sussudio | and those |
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| 06:23.04 | dondelelcaro | sussudio: which version of irssi are you running? |
| 06:23.15 | sussudio | dondelelcaro: whatever's in etch |
| 06:23.38 | dondelelcaro | !info irssi etch |
| 06:23.50 | sussudio | !info irssi-text etch |
| 06:23.53 | dpkg | irssi-text: (text-mode version of the irssi IRC client), section net, is optional. Version: 0.8.9-3.1 (etch), Packaged size: 781 kB, Installed size: 2436 kB |
| 06:24.14 | sussudio | maybe it's the proxy module |
| 06:24.19 | dondelelcaro | ahh... could be |
| 06:24.25 | sussudio | although i haven't seen it before 3 days ago |
| 06:24.30 | dondelelcaro | I've never used that module myself |
| 06:24.32 | sussudio | and i haven't restarted it |
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| 06:24.50 | tuv | ok.. will look there.. thanks |
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| 06:31.07 | ohad | how do i resolve this issue? W: GPG error: http://debian.linux-systeme.com sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F35E97D46941C9D8 |
| 06:31.15 | ohad | when i try to apt-get update |
| 06:31.30 | Sunblade | redo apt-get update and see if you still get it |
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| 06:32.04 | Kvant | !tell ohad about apt-secure |
| 06:32.35 | threat | tell me too :) |
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| 06:32.52 | Kvant | threat, /msg dpkg apt-secure |
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| 06:33.08 | bucky | heya grumpydog |
| 06:33.14 | smartmlp | god damn webmin |
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| 06:34.14 | nick23 | I know this isn't a linux related question really, but if I use tar to retrieve files from a drive with Windows XP on it, will the files be fine? Ie. long filenames, etc? |
| 06:35.45 | jm_ | as long as you mount it properly |
| 06:35.48 | threat | nick23, should be, you may need to use some mount options to get all uppercase filenames to be uppercase and not lowercase |
| 06:36.00 | threat | for example |
| 06:36.06 | nick23 | ahh okay..thank you |
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| 06:36.41 | threat | np |
| 06:37.11 | threat | if your copying from the drive via smb / cifs you may need to do other stuff too |
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| 06:37.29 | nick23 | my friends drive crashed and I mounted in Linux - so I will retrieve his files..should be cool..just wondering as I dont wanna run into problems from untaring |
| 06:38.01 | threat | as long as the drive you are untaring to is not NTFS then you should be fine |
| 06:38.19 | threat | (unless you have the commerical NTFS write support module) |
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| 06:39.40 | nick23 | no I will untar to an external FAT32 drive. He can then choose the files he wants to copy over to a new internal drive (which will replace the crashed drive) |
| 06:40.10 | nick23 | thank you for your help...Tar it is :) |
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| 06:43.19 | bradd | I'm getting alot of 'Unknown device' in lspci.. my board is nvidia based.. am I missing something important?? (kernel 2.6.8) |
| 06:44.20 | jm_ | run update-pciids |
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| 06:45.45 | bradd | thanks.. I assume that only needs to be run once ever.. |
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| 06:47.04 | jm_ | well no, whenever new ID-s are added to the database and you want to have up-to-date local database |
| 06:47.08 | bradd | ok |
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| 06:47.35 | jm_ | but it's not problematic in general, it just doesn't give you proper textual description (i.e. you can always use lspci -n and look up the ID-s manually) |
| 06:47.41 | Christophe971 | sleepytime |
| 06:48.45 | bradd | oh ok.. I have another problem.. alsaconf won't detect my AC'97 sound card.. strange because on other distros it detects just fine |
| 06:48.55 | Guerin | !ac97 |
| 06:48.55 | dpkg | There's no universal driver for every single motherboard that uses ac97 audio. ac97 is just the codec, you need a driver for your audio chip. For OSS, this is usually either i810_audio or via82cxxx_audio; for ALSA, it's usually one of snd-intel8x0 (see also <intel8x0>), snd-au8810 or snd-via82xx. Use lspci to check. |
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| 06:52.00 | jm_ | bradd: Athlon64 boards? they very often come with Realtek 7.1 chipset (650 IIRC) |
| 06:52.08 | jm_ | board even |
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| 06:52.32 | jm_ | I shall get it at work very soon, will know more about it then |
| 06:52.43 | jm_ | Abit board with Nforce 4 Ultra chipset |
| 06:52.43 | bradd | nah, its a sempron.. the module I need is snd_intel8x0 but alsa doesn't work even if I load this module directly.. maybe alsa itself isn't loaded? |
| 06:53.03 | bradd | its an abit board tho.. |
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| 06:53.55 | jm_ | !tell bradd -about doesn't work |
| 06:54.12 | jeff01 | does anyone how to "make" a slingbox using open source software? |
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| 06:54.45 | bradd | sound doesn't work at all.. alsaconf won't detect my sound card |
| 06:55.06 | bradd | (although on other distros alsaconf detects it fine) |
| 06:55.08 | FirstLite | I had a compact flash card with two partitions on it. I copied an image of the whole card (both partitions) using dd. Does anyone know how I can mount the individual partitions from the image? A regular loopback mount doesn't work because the image as a whole is not ext2. I need to get "into" the image somehow. |
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| 06:58.54 | Guerin | FirstLite: needs to be a bblock device |
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| 06:59.08 | Guerin | FirstLite: you might try some hackery with linking it to a block device or something |
| 06:59.15 | Guerin | but I don't know quite how to do this |
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| 07:00.14 | jm_ | bradd: you probably need newer kernel |
| 07:00.31 | bradd | ok.. I'll get the latest then.. |
| 07:00.49 | jm_ | give me the PCI ID for it |
| 07:00.56 | peterS | FirstLite: see 'losetup' (used transparently by 'mount -o loop') for how to turn a file into a block device - including options to use only *part* of the file |
| 07:01.18 | Guerin | !peterS # for knowing everything |
| 07:01.23 | Guerin | !peterS++ # for knowing everything |
| 07:01.27 | peterS | heh |
| 07:01.51 | jm_ | yeah you can specify that even without losetup, new version of mount support it |
| 07:02.06 | peterS | FirstLite: it is the '-o {offset}' option you need. so then it's just a matter of figuring out what the offset is to get to each partition |
| 07:02.07 | FirstLite | Guerin, peterS: Thanks; are you suggesting rading the partition table manually and then using --offset? |
| 07:02.12 | SlayerXP | jm_: http://www.hinterlands.org/clabbers/ |
| 07:02.25 | peterS | jm_++ # knows even more |
| 07:02.27 | FirstLite | s/rading/reading/ |
| 07:02.31 | peterS | errr ... that's for the bot |
| 07:02.33 | peterS | !jm_++ # knows even more |
| 07:02.53 | bradd | 0000:00:06.0 |
| 07:03.20 | acad | how can i remove mysql-server and it's configuration. not just the mysql-server? i believe there is such an option with apt-get |
| 07:03.27 | bradd | 10de:008a |
| 07:03.33 | jm_ | peterS: someone was asking about it here once |
| 07:03.36 | SlayerXP | acad: "man dpkg" and look for "purge" |
| 07:03.45 | acad | aww yes, thats it- thanks |
| 07:03.47 | mcm | acad: apt-get remove --purge <package> |
| 07:04.02 | bradd | 0000:00:06.0 0401: 10de:008a (rev a1) is what it is when I lspci -n |
| 07:04.10 | mcm | acad: and dpkg -P <package> |
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| 07:04.41 | jm_ | bradd: yeah 2.6.14 has it listed |
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| 07:04.56 | bradd | ok, I'll compile that then |
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| 07:05.48 | peterS | bradd: even 2.6.12 has it listed, if you want to just download a binary image of any of those |
| 07:06.04 | bradd | where would I find binary images? |
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| 07:06.21 | peterS | packages.debian.org/linux-image-2.6.12-1-k7 for example |
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| 07:06.30 | jm_ | SlayerXP: hehe |
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| 07:07.36 | el_pimpo | I would like to use kde from a remote machine ? is it possible ? just like putty but for kde |
| 07:08.02 | bradd | el_pimpo you might want to look into the various vnc's (tightvnc for example) |
| 07:08.43 | FirstLite | Guerin, peterS: I was able to dump the partition table with cfdisk after using losetup to turn the image into a block device. Then I mounted with losetup -o. Thanks! |
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| 07:08.53 | peterS | FirstLite: cool |
| 07:09.01 | el_pimpo | ok, ty i will do some research on it, do you think it is hard ? |
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| 07:10.21 | gentoome | hello all |
| 07:10.32 | gentoome | SORRY ABOUT THE NAME |
| 07:10.47 | bradd | el_pimpo, nah, just start a vncserver on the linux box, run a vncviewer from another box.. |
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| 07:11.26 | marculix | After upgrading sarge to r1, I plan to change /etc/debian_version from '3.1' to '3.1r1', does somebody think I'll run into trouble with that change? |
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| 07:11.42 | gentoome | Is it possible for me to upgrade xfree to xorg |
| 07:11.57 | Guerin | gentoome: anything's possible. |
| 07:12.04 | gentoome | ok how |
| 07:12.06 | Guerin | gentoome: but only you know what'ss possible for you. |
| 07:12.15 | Guerin | gentoome: what branch of debian are you running? |
| 07:12.18 | nosklo | gentoome, yes its possible |
| 07:12.36 | nosklo | gentoome, are you using sarge? |
| 07:12.41 | gentoome | its plain old debian |
| 07:12.44 | gentoome | yeah |
| 07:12.52 | Guerin | gentoome: /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
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| 07:13.03 | Guerin | or see the topic |
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| 07:14.37 | bradd | well I go to download 'linux-image-2.6-k7' but its only 8.5kb.. am I missing something? |
| 07:14.43 | phorce1 | Good morning all -- I need to do something I haven't done in a while and I'm tired and can't remember how <sigh>. I need to PATCH Postfix so I can set up quotas on my personal mail server that uses virtual with mysql to avoid having to make every family member a "real user". I have the patch .gz and I drabbed apt-get source postfix-mysql. The patch.gz has several .diff files. What the fnork do I do with them? |
| 07:14.50 | Guerin | bradd: it's a metapackage |
| 07:15.00 | Guerin | bradd: don't download it; install it using apt-get |
| 07:15.15 | gentoome | Im a little dumb, what do I do again |
| 07:15.18 | bradd | well then how do I add testing to my apt.list?? |
| 07:15.30 | nosklo | gentoome, type /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 07:15.35 | nosklo | gentoome, here on irc |
| 07:15.42 | gentoome | oh |
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| 07:16.12 | phorce1 | is there a Debian howto on patching sources somewhere? |
| 07:16.17 | nosklo | gentoome, dpkg will kindly give you all information |
| 07:16.22 | gentoome | oh |
| 07:16.33 | gentoome | thats nice |
| 07:16.36 | diana | Is there a Romanian debian channel? |
| 07:16.42 | jm_ | bradd: don't do that - download 2.6.x*-<arch> image, where arch is k7 for you |
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| 07:17.07 | jm_ | I suppose it should say x+ not x* |
| 07:17.52 | bradd | you mean linux-image-2.6-k7 ?? |
| 07:18.01 | jm_ | no, 2.6.12-bla-k7 |
| 07:18.11 | bradd | oh.. where do I find it? |
| 07:18.21 | jm_ | peterS has told you where |
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| 07:19.57 | phorce1 | 'apt-cache search kernel-image-2.6' |
| 07:20.10 | phorce1 | apt-get install (your choice from the list) |
| 07:20.32 | Guerin | well, it's clear to me that he's running sarge |
| 07:20.37 | Guerin | so apt-* won't work for him |
| 07:20.49 | jm_ | indeed |
| 07:20.52 | bradd | yeah, using sarge |
| 07:21.00 | phorce1 | oops |
| 07:21.04 | phorce1 | sorry |
| 07:21.06 | jm_ | bradd: just go to http://packages.debian.org/ and search for it and you'll get a download link |
| 07:21.14 | Guerin | unless jm_ has completely lost it and is making him to it the hard way for fun |
| 07:21.20 | jm_ | bradd: or look on backports, even easier |
| 07:21.25 | Guerin | which is always remotely possible, I suppose |
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| 07:22.10 | phorce1 | waitaminit |
| 07:22.13 | phorce1 | <heh> |
| 07:22.21 | phorce1 | Told you I was tired |
| 07:22.22 | Guerin | noooo! cities.totl.net is timing out! :( |
| 07:22.48 | Guerin | how am I goint to slay the n0rx now? |
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| 07:23.58 | bradd | ok I found it.. and I use dpkg to install it? |
| 07:24.12 | jm_ | yah |
| 07:24.21 | Guerin | bradd: dpkg -i linux-image-foo && apt-get -f install |
| 07:24.29 | phorce1 | Gahh google is killing me trying to find "the Debian way" to patch a set of sources from .diffs and recreate and installable package. And I have to drive 2 hours to pick up my VW Bus a few hours from now. |
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| 07:24.40 | Guerin | phorce1: what package? |
| 07:25.08 | peterS | phorce1: just to extract a debian source package? 'dpkg -x foo.dsc' |
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| 07:25.11 | phorce1 | Guerin: postfix. I have the apt-get sources and the downloaded patch .diffs |
| 07:25.18 | peterS | phorce1: err, I mean dpkg-source -x foo.dsc |
| 07:25.33 | jm_ | usually it's a matter of unpacking the Debian source package, applying the diffs and then rebuilding, but some Debian packages are are compressed and then you have to tinker a bit in the Makefile |
| 07:25.39 | jm_ | well rules, not Makefile |
| 07:26.25 | fooz | hmm, is the new X11R7.0 release based on xorg? |
| 07:26.37 | phorce1 | downloaded the sources and it's not compressed. apt-get source postfix-mysql gave me a nice postfix-2.1.5 directory tree in /usr/local/src |
| 07:26.37 | peterS | fooz: uh, that *is* x.org |
| 07:26.49 | fooz | oh yeah :) |
| 07:26.52 | Guerin | haha |
| 07:27.04 | Guerin | fooz: now is the time you say it was a trick question |
| 07:27.12 | phorce1 | I'm brain farting on the "apply the diffs" part. Been too long since I had to use anything that didn't "work out of the box" |
| 07:27.27 | jm_ | ahh 7.0 is modularized one, apparently Debian is making good progress on that too |
| 07:27.30 | sussudio | !foozball |
| 07:27.31 | dpkg | How to play foozball; Tie a fooz to a fussball table and drop mouseballs (the little heavy ones) In strategic places. You get a point for every scream of agony. |
| 07:27.45 | peterS | phorce1: you apply diffs using 'patch'. usually 'patch -p0' or 'patch -p1' depending on what sort of diff |
| 07:28.04 | phorce1 | Gone to man patch brb |
| 07:28.09 | Guerin | good luck making the patches play nice with the debian patches |
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| 07:30.27 | phorce1 | This is actually something I have patched before and it works well. It's just been 8 months since I had to do it on another system. It's just little patches to the virtual delivery agent to support quotas |
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| 07:31.31 | peterS | phorce1: much depends on the makeup of the postfix package. if it uses dbs or similar, you have to play the dbs game. otherwise it's pretty easy |
| 07:32.07 | phorce1 | And after looking at man patch I remember why I keep forgetting how to patch this one -- it's not a "unified patch" there are about 8 different .diff files and each has to be applied individually. Not a single "patch and go" bit |
| 07:32.12 | Any_Key | hello is anybody have gnucash running on unstable? |
| 07:32.30 | Guerin | !anyone use gnucash on unstable? |
| 07:32.30 | dpkg | No, no one uses gnucash on unstable, not even the people who use it. |
| 07:33.12 | fooz | modularising X is a good idea but i don't think autoconf is the answer |
| 07:33.19 | fooz | though I don't know what is |
| 07:33.20 | ohad | how do i change the a string in the depndes apt-get ? |
| 07:33.22 | jm_ | phorce1: unified is referring to the format of the diff file, it does not necessarily mean it's all in a single diff file |
| 07:33.26 | Kutta | Hi I made a bit of a mistake. I couldn't upgrade my SID system because it said it would have to remove the ext2 tools. So I forced it, and now my system is kinda borked. I think the problem is, that it needs to upgrade to the new libc6, but it can't because tools like gzip segfault. I was wondering how I can try to force the package to install from a bootcd. |
| 07:33.28 | phorce1 | peterS: Using ysql on the other server. This particular patch just adds the quota feature to the existing delivery transport. I already have the quota fields in the database, they just get ignored right now. |
| 07:33.30 | peterS | fooz: fine, go back to imake |
| 07:33.32 | ohad | or a certain pkg? |
| 07:33.54 | Guerin | fooz: i suspect you could have a fun argument with gravity about this |
| 07:34.02 | Any_Key | Guerin :funny but the point is I can't install it |
| 07:34.08 | peterS | fooz: there's like *one* guy involved with x.org who prefers imake over autoconf |
| 07:34.16 | Guerin | Any_Key: welcome to unstable |
| 07:34.19 | fooz | i don't want to argue with anyone |
| 07:34.22 | jm_ | Kutta: unpack it, fix the status file so that dpkg thinks all is dandy (make backups first) |
| 07:34.23 | Guerin | Any_Key: enjoy your stay. |
| 07:34.38 | bradd | great.. now my sound works with 2.6.12 but my video capture card isn't detected.. I think I'm just gonna compile my own kernel.. |
| 07:34.41 | peterS | I shudder to think what else could be used ... metaconfig? |
| 07:34.41 | fooz | i don't prefer imake.. |
| 07:34.49 | fooz | but it works. |
| 07:35.53 | Kutta | jm_: I've tried forcing it with "dpkg --force-all --root=/mnt <package>" where /mnt is where I have the partition mounted. It then complaims about the user "amavis" not being in some file. |
| 07:35.57 | Any_Key | Guerin: tnx I will |
| 07:36.07 | Kutta | jm_: also had --install there too |
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| 07:36.37 | jm_ | Kutta: well you'll have to be more exact with the error message, it's possibly coming from a postinst script |
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| 07:37.25 | Kutta | jm_: ok sorry, one sec, let me look |
| 07:38.18 | Kutta | jm_: Unknown user 'amavis' in statusoverride file |
| 07:39.49 | jm_ | Kutta: do you get the same if you chroot first and then run dpkg -i normally (without --root)? |
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| 07:40.09 | Kutta | if I chroot, then it flops out with what I think is gzip segfaulting, heh |
| 07:40.10 | anacaona | hello |
| 07:40.22 | anacaona | i've done sometime really bad to dpkg |
| 07:40.23 | jm_ | yes, so that's what you need to work on |
| 07:40.40 | Kutta | I'm thinking that, that might be a problem with gzip and libc |
| 07:40.53 | jm_ | right, so reinstall those two |
| 07:40.53 | Kutta | df also seg faults |
| 07:40.59 | Kutta | ok |
| 07:40.59 | anacaona | when i install or remove i get the message : dpkg: serious warning: files list file for package |
| 07:41.03 | Kutta | danke |
| 07:41.10 | anacaona | for about a half gazillion packages |
| 07:41.35 | jm_ | Kutta: unpack with ar, then you'll be left with data.tar.gz which you use to replace the files - then you may need to run postinst scripts etc. |
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| 07:43.29 | holla1 | anyone framiliar with d-link di-624, and how to configure it to accept dcc sends? it rejects udp packet from the sender and rejects the send |
| 07:43.52 | jm_ | holla1: DCC and UDP? |
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| 07:44.06 | Guerin | holla1: #dlink |
| 07:44.11 | holla1 | jm_: probably my ignorant terminology, yea |
| 07:44.13 | Guerin | holla1: or ask dlink |
| 07:45.04 | holla1 | Guerin: on the phone with them now..... |
| 07:45.10 | Guerin | holla1: good luck. |
| 07:45.14 | jm_ | holla1: well you need one of two things to make it work: a) IRC NAT module like Linux has, or b) use static ports in your IRC client which are forwarded from your router to your machine where your IRC client is running |
| 07:45.48 | liable | in a broken english phillipeno accent :) |
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| 07:47.29 | gentoome | hello again |
| 07:47.50 | gentoome | is there a way to change resolution on the fly? |
| 07:47.56 | Guerin | gentoome: xrandr |
| 07:48.16 | jm_ | so yes, there's a way |
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| 07:49.47 | phorce1 | crap -- I give up for the night. dpkg-buildpackage barfs on dependencies. Of course the other box I did this on wa 1386 and this box is Sparc but if the package is already available for install through apt then why doesn't apt-get source followed by dpkg-buildpackage work to rebuild it? |
| 07:50.03 | jm_ | you also need apt-get build-dep |
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| 07:50.59 | holla1 | jm_: i cant take that phone convo anymore... |
| 07:51.23 | holla1 | jm_: how could i set up static ports? cant the send come through more than one possible port? |
| 07:51.34 | phorce1 | <sigh> I didn't recall that command. But I installed a full development system on the other box. May not have needed it 8 months ago |
| 07:51.41 | Guerin | excuse the poll, but: |
| 07:51.44 | phorce1 | jm_: Thanks |
| 07:51.47 | Guerin | good internet radio stations? |
| 07:51.51 | jm_ | holla1: it depends on your IRC client |
| 07:52.14 | holla1 | jm_: DONT get mad, but mirc |
| 07:52.25 | Guerin | haha |
| 07:52.30 | jm_ | holla1: I have no idea about mirc |
| 07:52.53 | holla1 | jm_: but the send doesnt even hit the windows box, its stopped at the route's firewall |
| 07:53.15 | phorce1 | Guerin: I always surf around on shoutcast.com for whatever I'm in the mood for |
| 07:53.31 | Guerin | yeah |
| 07:54.24 | phorce1 | Guerin: right now listening to a folder full of Steve Vai mp3 files |
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| 07:54.43 | jeff88 | sorry |
| 07:54.43 | phorce1 | Guerin: With some random Dick dale tossed in |
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| 07:55.19 | jm_ | holla1: that's where the port forwarding comes into play |
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| 07:55.27 | gentoome | im confused I dont know how to get my resolution higher than 320x200 |
| 07:56.30 | jeff88 | jm_: but sometimes itll hit at 1027, then at 1026, then at 60048 |
| 07:56.33 | Guerin | !drxx gentoome |
| 07:56.34 | dpkg | gentoome: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:56.37 | phorce1 | Well, this build might take a few minutes on a 166MHz Sparc Ultra-1 |
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| 07:57.52 | m0rbid | I have yaird installed, and when I goto install kernel-image-2.6.14, I get this error. Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version |
| 07:57.57 | m0rbid | any suggestions? |
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| 07:58.26 | m0rbid | nvm |
| 07:58.30 | m0rbid | I see the topic. |
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| 07:58.50 | m0rbid | is there a fix to them yet? |
| 07:58.59 | Fixion | I just did a new install, gdm starts, X works, but gnome hangs right after I login (it sometimes showes a loading screen), anyone know why? |
| 07:59.11 | Fixion | I tried icewm, that just hangs too |
| 07:59.27 | m0rbid | check the error logs, see if anything is there. |
| 07:59.38 | Fixion | Xorg logs? |
| 07:59.51 | m0rbid | /var/log/X11... |
| 07:59.56 | Fixion | I didn't find anything unusual in that, X works afterall... |
| 07:59.57 | m0rbid | something liket hat |
| 07:59.57 | Fixion | ok |
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| 08:00.48 | jm_ | jeff88: that's why you use static ports in your IRC client |
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| 08:01.11 | m0rbid | jm_: you aware of a yaird/kernel fix yet? |
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| 08:03.52 | jm_ | m0rbid: what fix? you mean the piix4 thing? |
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| 08:04.26 | m0rbid | jm_: no when I went to install kernel-image2.6 I get errors about yaird, as it says in the topic that it is BORKED. |
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| 08:05.20 | phorce1 | m0rbid: "They" will probably change the topic when it's un-BORKED. |
| 08:05.25 | jm_ | m0rbid: not familiar with that - I use Sarge and my own kernels, it's always worth checking BTS |
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| 08:06.19 | gentoome | alright thanks guys |
| 08:06.23 | phorce1 | I usually just lurk here but when someone puts a BORKED notice in the topic they're usually quick to pull it when the problem is solved |
| 08:07.55 | Fixion | would apm have anything to do with gnome not working? Those are the only errors (WW) in my Xorg log |
| 08:08.21 | deadcat | Fixion: no |
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| 08:09.08 | phorce1 | And with that note -- g'night all. Thanks for helping me remember the steps I'd forgotten. Looks like a LOOONNNNGGG compile on the old Sparc so I'm shifting the music to Patsy Kline, Brenda Lee, and Freddy Fender and heading off to bed. |
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| 08:10.10 | phorce1 | (shoulda run buildpackage in a timer loop so i could laugh in the morning) |
| 08:10.43 | m0rbid | hmm, those arent the error messeges I am getting though |
| 08:11.09 | m0rbid | how do I stop apt-get from isntalling something I dont want, and canceled? |
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| 08:11.54 | zorzella | anyone, please help! I upgraded to etch, and my emacs now only shows boxes in place of letters. Any idea? |
| 08:12.57 | jm_ | m0rbid: BTS has notes how to fix it |
| 08:13.43 | m0rbid | not the two I am seeing |
| 08:13.58 | m0rbid | im getting a different error messege then those. |
| 08:14.10 | m0rbid | Mine is telling me I dont have yaird installed. |
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| 08:14.33 | m0rbid | Finding valid ramdisk creators. |
| 08:14.33 | m0rbid | Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version |
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| 08:14.56 | jm_ | install it? |
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| 08:15.08 | m0rbid | Yaird is allready installed. |
| 08:15.13 | m0rbid | and newest version |
| 08:15.13 | predators | hi |
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| 08:15.44 | jm_ | does it work if you run yaird in the same shell? |
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| 08:16.41 | m0rbid | sortah: yaird error: one of --output and --test must be given (fatal) |
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| 08:16.49 | predators | i |
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| 08:17.00 | m0rbid | so yeah, w/o options Im guessing its running |
| 08:17.00 | predators | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 08:17.09 | jm_ | so it finds it just fine, when do you get the message Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation ... ? |
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| 08:18.04 | m0rbid | /j #flood please? |
| 08:18.06 | m0rbid | Ill show you |
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| 08:18.40 | Guerin | predators: your a key is broken. |
| 08:19.03 | m0rbid | thats the output |
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| 08:22.13 | bcc | is it possible to listen to radio with a wireless card? |
| 08:22.52 | m0rbid | Over the air radio? |
| 08:23.03 | bcc | yep |
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| 08:23.51 | m0rbid | no |
| 08:23.53 | m0rbid | not to my knowledge |
| 08:24.14 | bcc | i see. ok |
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| 08:26.36 | cdemwell | hi |
| 08:26.59 | cdemwell | Does mplayer from marillat still work? Mine has stopped, complaining of undefined symbols in libavcodec.so.0 |
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| 08:27.16 | cdemwell | Google turns up a couple non-english hits that I don't understand |
| 08:27.37 | afabian | cdemwell: i'm using it on sarge. |
| 08:27.49 | afabian | it's actually running right now. ;) |
| 08:27.52 | cdemwell | afabian: What processor and which mplayer? |
| 08:27.55 | cdemwell | hjm |
| 08:28.06 | cdemwell | hmm indeed. |
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| 08:28.24 | afabian | celeron (p4), mplayer-586 1.0-pre-7-0.0 |
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| 08:28.32 | gentoome | need some advise on going from sarge to hoary |
| 08:28.38 | gentoome | or brezzy |
| 08:28.57 | streuner | gentoome: #ubuntu |
| 08:28.58 | afabian | gentoome: you're in a tricky situation, seeing as neither the debian people nor the ubuntu people are going to support you on this one. ;) |
| 08:29.07 | gentoome | oh |
| 08:29.27 | cdemwell | hmm |
| 08:29.51 | gentoome | :( |
| 08:29.54 | cdemwell | gentoome: that's a sticky one all right |
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| 08:30.08 | cdemwell | I'd suggest just doing a straight-up reinstall |
| 08:30.09 | afabian | gentoome: it's not a supported upgrade route by anybody. change your sources.list, cross your fingers, and expect sparks. nothing to try without a backup, and you'll probably need a reinstall. |
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| 08:30.19 | cdemwell | but it's a really strange "upgrade" |
| 08:30.20 | Edge888 | i need help on vsftpd config... I just set it up, its just a basic config. I was able to login using my created users. but when I double click the ../ it goes to a higher director. how can I configure that its restrict the user to just browse on its assigned folder. |
| 08:30.31 | gentoome | tricky in deed |
| 08:30.33 | cdemwell | afabian: Did you have to do anything odd to install it? |
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| 08:31.24 | afabian | cdemwell: not at all. as I remember, I dumped the line in my sources list and installed mplayer-686, which is actually a virtual package that brought in mplayer-586... the line was: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main |
| 08:31.25 | Bawdo2001 | In /etc/vsftpd.conf you can ensure this is set chroot_local_user=YES |
| 08:31.29 | gentoome | I needed deb to install because this old laptop has 32mb of memory and deb only needs 24mb to install |
| 08:31.36 | |rage| | hey, anyone know how to load an opengl driver? I know where it is, I added it's path to ld.so.conf, just not sure why it's not loading... |
| 08:31.42 | cdemwell | yeah, that fails for me |
| 08:31.51 | cdemwell | I mean, it works... but then I get bad things |
| 08:31.57 | cdemwell | mplayer: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libavcodec.so.0: undefined symbol: faacDecOpen |
| 08:32.03 | gentoome | ubuntu needs 64mb minimal to install |
| 08:32.06 | Edge888 | bawdo2001: okay i will try.. :) thanks :) |
| 08:32.31 | gentoome | I'm fine right now though |
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| 08:36.27 | liable | w00t finally found a cheap dvd writer for my lappy :) |
| 08:36.32 | gentoome | ok in deb how do I stop xdm from starting up |
| 08:37.00 | afabian | gentoome: if your RAM is that limited, I doubt that what you're planning would work. there's not that much difference on a packaging and installer level between Debian and Ubuntu; you'll probably burn all of that RAM just trying the dist-upgrade. you'd be better off sticking with debian all around; it's generally less RAM hungry by default. Actually, with memory that limited, you might want to look at NetBSD, or Slackware. N |
| 08:37.00 | afabian | ot that Debian isn't suitable, but NetBSD actually targets some RAM-challenged platforms. ;) |
| 08:37.09 | Guerin | gentoome: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 08:37.10 | cdemwell | gentoome: you mean remove xdm? |
| 08:37.14 | liable | gentoome: remove it if you dont want it. |
| 08:37.18 | Bawdo2001 | Anyone have any ideas on how to get libpam-mysql to work with MD5 passwords? |
| 08:37.43 | Guerin | Bawdo2001: for sasl? |
| 08:37.48 | cdemwell | gentoome: I agree with afabian. What you're trying is not wise. |
| 08:38.08 | Bawdo2001 | Nope. |
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| 08:38.43 | Bawdo2001 | Trying to authenticate ftp virtual users. |
| 08:38.47 | Guerin | cdemwell: your mplayer problems are caused by mismatched libs and mplayer binaaries |
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| 08:38.58 | cdemwell | Guerin: That's what it looks like to me |
| 08:39.04 | gentoome | afabian I agree I'll stick with Deb |
| 08:39.19 | cdemwell | I'm not sure how to figure out what versions I need of either though |
| 08:39.30 | Guerin | cdemwell: this tends to happen if you have them installed from different sources, and it's a real pain in the arse to sort out, since the lib which throws the error is not always the lib with the mismatch |
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| 08:39.41 | cdemwell | Hm |
| 08:39.56 | cdemwell | Well, libavcodec seems to be known as an unstable API |
| 08:40.05 | Guerin | cdemwell: yeah, it is |
| 08:40.11 | cdemwell | I bet that's the one then |
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| 08:40.20 | Guerin | cdemwell: well, yes and no |
| 08:40.26 | cdemwell | that's fair. |
| 08:40.31 | cdemwell | But I have to start somewhere, yeah? |
| 08:40.32 | Guerin | cdemwell: i thought the same, but removing it didn't help - it was some other lib |
| 08:40.42 | cdemwell | oh you've had this issue? |
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| 08:40.54 | Guerin | cdemwell: yes. |
| 08:41.06 | foampeace | should i use sid? |
| 08:41.07 | cdemwell | I don't suppose you remember how you fixed it..? |
| 08:41.29 | foampeace | new install...experienced user...is sid ok? |
| 08:41.37 | cdemwell | no. |
| 08:41.46 | cdemwell | foampeace: Sid is unstable by definition |
| 08:41.53 | afabian | foampeace: if you have to ask, i really doubt it. ;) |
| 08:41.55 | ice_1963 | i use testing |
| 08:41.58 | liable | foampeace: experirenced user, and your asking us? |
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| 08:42.25 | Guerin | cdemwell: what I ended up doing was running through all the deps, suggests and recommends, and the build-deps for mplayer, and doing some sanity checking on them - what version do I have, what apt source is it from, how does this compare with what mplayer itself expects, and so on. Basically, if you build and install the whole shop yourself, or install it all from a single repo, you should be ok. |
| 08:42.26 | foampeace | liable: experienced doesnt mean i know whats changed |
| 08:42.34 | Guerin | cdemwell: there's no easy method I could find. |
| 08:42.45 | foampeace | liable: ok how bout im not experienced at all. does that make you happy? |
| 08:42.50 | liable | foampeace: if you can cope with borkedness, then sure, try it out. |
| 08:43.15 | cdemwell | oh man |
| 08:43.27 | liable | foampeace: no, giving me an icy cols carton of beer would make me happy. |
| 08:43.29 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 08:43.39 | liable | cold even.. |
| 08:43.59 | afabian | foampeace: generally, i think of like this: if a project has release versions and development versions, I ask myself: "do I want to get involved in development?" if the answer is no, I stick with what they've kindly called a release, as it's intended for mortals and end-users, which is most people most of the time. ;) |
| 08:44.24 | cdemwell | afabian: that's a super-responsible attitude |
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| 08:44.54 | cdemwell | me, I say "does the stable version exist and have the features I need? If not, does the testing version? If not, does the unstable version?" |
| 08:44.56 | Guerin | i tend to go 'fuck it, I'm leet' and use the development version |
| 08:45.07 | grozniy | hello everyone !!! Happy xmas !!!!!! |
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| 08:45.09 | afabian | heh. |
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| 08:45.22 | Guerin | grozniy: happy ymas to you too |
| 08:45.31 | m0rbid | & merry new year. |
| 08:45.43 | grozniy | Guerin: thx !!! |
| 08:46.01 | Guerin | grozniy: thy!!! |
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| 08:46.27 | Guerin | SDNWOTI |
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| 08:46.57 | Guerin | ok, here's some shell siliness |
| 08:47.19 | m0rbid | I look forward to these. |
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| 08:48.03 | foo_ | anyone understands snmp? |
| 08:48.27 | cdemwell | foo_: I prefer english, french, or Bulgarian. |
| 08:48.31 | m0rbid | yes, they are letters. |
| 08:49.06 | ice_1963 | what is snmp? |
| 08:49.22 | m0rbid | stmp? |
| 08:49.47 | cdemwell | Simple Network Management Protocol |
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| 08:49.56 | ice_1963 | well ok |
| 08:49.58 | Guerin | i have a dir full of files. More files are constantly being added. I want to be able to play all the files, in sequence, as they come in. Is there a sane way? |
| 08:49.59 | m0rbid | flyby. |
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| 08:50.35 | afabian | cdemwell: features are tempting, but i usually figure i'm not even using most of the features i've already got without heaping on more. ;) |
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| 08:50.40 | darkness_ | Say does debian allow rootlogins by default? |
| 08:50.48 | Guerin | darkness_: of course it does. |
| 08:50.49 | darkness_ | remote root that is? |
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| 08:51.00 | Eclipser_ | yes |
| 08:51.01 | liable | sarge does yes |
| 08:51.07 | m0rbid | does debian allow rootlogins by default? |
| 08:51.12 | m0rbid | done. |
| 08:51.12 | Guerin | darkness_: it's a real OS for real administrators, not a watered-down desktop os |
| 08:51.24 | Eclipser_ | m0rbid, ha ha |
| 08:51.38 | darkness_ | I did mean remote |
| 08:51.42 | darkness_ | duh |
| 08:51.59 | Guerin | darkness_: duh indeed. |
| 08:52.00 | fireba11 | can someone tell me how to change sudo back so it will allow root login again ? |
| 08:52.04 | m0rbid | remote root is retarded, IMHO |
| 08:52.09 | darkness_ | Because allowing remote rootlogin seems a little dodgy. |
| 08:52.12 | ssm | m0rbid: The debian ssh default configuration enables remote root logins, yes |
| 08:52.13 | Guerin | m0rbid: that makes you retarded. |
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| 08:52.20 | Guerin | it's not. |
| 08:52.33 | Guerin | one good reason why remote root is dodgy. |
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| 08:52.42 | m0rbid | I disable it |
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| 08:52.48 | Guerin | m0rbid: one good reason why. |
| 08:52.49 | m0rbid | but thats my preference |
| 08:52.55 | ssm | Guerin: One good reason is all the ssh brute force bots |
| 08:52.58 | Guerin | 'preference' is not a good reason. |
| 08:53.01 | cdemwell | m0rbid: we love you anyway. |
| 08:53.02 | m0rbid | ssm: indeed |
| 08:53.05 | fireba11 | m0rbid: if you use reasonable passwords you are fine to go :-) |
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| 08:53.19 | Guerin | ssm: no, that's not a good reason. If your password is weak enough for them to break, your machine is already crackable. |
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| 08:53.43 | darkness_ | Guerin, what if you run sshd though? |
| 08:53.44 | m0rbid | it was a horrible story, my grandmother, case of beer, I dont wanna talk about it. |
| 08:53.48 | ssm | Guerin: One should, when one makes an operative system, provide safe defaults for the users |
| 08:53.49 | liable | one more password to break is still a good thing.. |
| 08:53.53 | Guerin | darkness_: what about it? |
| 08:54.04 | cdemwell | liable: That's really not how it works |
| 08:54.22 | cdemwell | once you have access to a shell it is far easier to get whatever you want |
| 08:54.26 | ivalladt | darkness_: you can disallow root login to sshd |
| 08:54.28 | darkness_ | Well most securty hardening papers say make reemoterootlogin to No. |
| 08:54.32 | Guerin | ssm: this is my point. sshd running, and allowing root logins by default, *IS* a safe default. |
| 08:54.35 | ssm | Guerin: it is not reasonable to expect everyone who installs Debian for the first time to choose secure passwords. One should encourage it, but not be surprised if someone chooses to enter the name of their cat |
| 08:54.42 | nextime | ssm : you must define "safe default", for example for me a safe default is to don't have sshd open at all :) |
| 08:54.46 | m0rbid | darkness_: thats what I read too. |
| 08:54.55 | ssm | Guerin: it is a convenient default, it is not a secure default |
| 08:54.57 | pok | in the /etc/network/interfaces , if i have dns-nameservers under eth0 does anybody know what seperator i should use for multiple dns nameservers? is it comma seperated, space seperated or other? |
| 08:54.57 | m0rbid | it scared to boots of me. I still cant find those. |
| 08:55.30 | Guerin | ssm: people need to take responsibility for their own passwords. I believe the debian installer also does password checking. |
| 08:55.31 | afabian | Security, frankly, annoys me. I know why it's there, but almost by definition, it's just in the way of what you actually want to do. |
| 08:55.38 | ssm | Guerin: does the debian installer use cracklib to check the root password on install? I dont' remember |
| 08:55.39 | gentoome | wtf gnome is running inside of twm |
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| 08:55.52 | Guerin | afabian: it's also in the way of doing what *I* want to do ... on your computer. |
| 08:55.54 | ssm | afabian: security is the antithesis of convenience. :D |
| 08:55.57 | darkness_ | I mean why the hell would you want people to have remote root login. For what purpose on a server? |
| 08:55.59 | Guerin | ssm: yeah, I think so. |
| 08:56.05 | ivalladt | ssm: I don't think so, I usually choose very weak password on install and change them later |
| 08:56.10 | Guerin | I got told off for entering 'badgers' once |
| 08:56.15 | ssm | Guerin: hehehe |
| 08:56.38 | Guerin | darkness_: the purpose is that when nothing iss working, rtoot can log in and start fixing shit. |
| 08:56.46 | cdemwell | ^ |
| 08:56.49 | liable | gentoo does, debian has never told me a passwrord wasnt good enough.. |
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| 08:56.51 | cdemwell | This has saved my ass in the past |
| 08:56.53 | ssm | Guerin: Would it allow badgerbadgerbadgerbadger? :D |
| 08:57.01 | Guerin | ssm: dunno. |
| 08:57.01 | fireba11 | darkness_: i'm the admin .. it's pretty useless to login normally and su later since i need root privilidges anywa |
| 08:57.15 | liable | gah, i have typing retardness as usual tonight.. |
| 08:57.21 | cdemwell | liable: Did you install cracklib or some other password auditing tool? |
| 08:57.24 | Guerin | darkness_: look at it the other way: what's the point of NOT allowing it? |
| 08:57.30 | gentoome | can I kill twm |
| 08:57.43 | liable | cdemwell: during the install, no. |
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| 08:57.47 | gentoome | Guerin: can I kill twm |
| 08:57.53 | pilgrim | Hi all. Before I begin asking: I'm not a troll I just want to get informed. What is the latest GNOME version in debian (stable)? What about ubuntu(stable)? |
| 08:57.56 | m0rbid | jm_ is a god |
| 08:57.56 | fireba11 | i got an old box set up to only allow normal user logins and so i have to su root then .. how can i change that back to allow root login directly ? |
| 08:57.58 | Guerin | gentoome: I don't know, can you? |
| 08:58.20 | liable | cdemwell: i was talking about a base install. |
| 08:58.21 | cdemwell | liable: That's why it didn't tell you the password wasn't good enough |
| 08:58.22 | brox | can i run "rm /var/tmp/*" without messing with my os? |
| 08:58.23 | afabian | pilgrim: distrowatch.com has that sort of information, and a lot more. check it out. |
| 08:58.29 | darkness_ | I suppose you have a point. If someone is skilled enough to break in with remoterootlogin set to yes with a strong passwd then they can get in other ways. |
| 08:58.31 | brox | i mean is it OK |
| 08:58.37 | pilgrim | afabian: thank you. I'll be back. |
| 08:58.44 | fireba11 | Guerin: it's only getting on your nerves ... i stumble over not being able to scp to that box all the time ^^ |
| 08:58.59 | liable | cdemwell: so, debian installer doesnt check then? that was the point of my comment.. |
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| 08:59.12 | gentoome | Guerin: when I start gdm gnome is inside of twm |
| 08:59.15 | cdemwell | I don't think so |
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| 08:59.21 | Guerin | gentoome: haha, really? |
| 08:59.21 | ivalladt | liable: it doesn't check |
| 08:59.23 | m0rbid | I just feel more safe with remoterootlogin set to disabled. theres no real reason to remotly login as root, when user account knows roots password. |
| 08:59.24 | Guerin | that's funky. |
| 08:59.28 | m0rbid | thats my opinion. |
| 08:59.32 | brox | on my machine /var/tmp is huge |
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| 08:59.42 | darkness_ | guerin, are you aware of any issues with the latest sarge kernel upgrade and messing eth0 up? |
| 08:59.45 | fireba11 | m0rbid: how you disable ot anyway ? i need to enable it on one box .. :-D |
| 09:00.06 | pok | darkness_ : what issues are that? |
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| 09:00.09 | m0rbid | fireball, /etc/ssh(d?) |
| 09:00.13 | m0rbid | theres a conf in there somewhere |
| 09:00.14 | Guerin | darkness_: nope. |
| 09:00.19 | m0rbid | find the remoterootlogin line |
| 09:00.30 | cdemwell | m0rbid: There is a good reason to log in as root. |
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| 09:00.44 | darkness_ | I did my usual apt-get upgrade two days ago which upgraded the kernel. Now i have no internet connection. |
| 09:00.48 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 09:00.49 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 09:00.58 | pok | cdemwell : yes, but he is talking about remote login with root |
| 09:00.59 | cdemwell | 5% of the root FS' disk space is reserved for root's use |
| 09:01.02 | cdemwell | yeah, same here |
| 09:01.20 | cdemwell | so if the disk gets filled, say by exim4 writing multi-gigabyte log files for no god damned good reason |
| 09:01.27 | nextime | m0rbid : so why you don't disable the rootlogin feature after install? i fell more safe without sshd enabled, i just install openvpn and open it only inside the virtual lan connection, i don't ask to do this by default. |
| 09:01.27 | pok | darkness_ : i had a similar problem |
| 09:01.31 | cdemwell | you can still log in and fix it without having to go on-site. |
| 09:01.51 | pok | darkness_ : can you ping yourself on the pc without internet connection? |
| 09:01.54 | ssm | cdemwell: If exim4 is writing a gigabyte of logs, it would be for a good reason.... :D |
| 09:02.01 | darkness_ | pok, i don't know. |
| 09:02.02 | cdemwell | no no |
| 09:02.09 | cdemwell | multigigabyte logs |
| 09:02.12 | Guerin | ssm: or because you got 100 million spams from my ip address |
| 09:02.13 | darkness_ | pok, what did you do to rectify it? |
| 09:02.14 | JJK | Hello, I added a route with route -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 dev eth0, but that was the wrong one. How can I delete it? using route del -net 192.168.0.0 isn't working. |
| 09:02.14 | cdemwell | IIRC it was about 3.5G |
| 09:02.22 | cdemwell | and no, it was not for a good reason. |
| 09:02.23 | Guerin | or my isp |
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| 09:02.28 | ssm | Guerin: that's a good reason to log, yes. |
| 09:02.30 | jm_ | JJK: same command as for add, but s/add/del/ |
| 09:02.53 | liable | a better idea is to have /var on its own partition.. |
| 09:02.56 | fireba11 | cdemwell: guess someone messed up config a lot ^^ |
| 09:02.57 | JJK | jm , okay, thanks |
| 09:02.59 | pok | darkness_ : in my case i couldn't ping my localhost, and when i typed in ifconfig i just got eth0 instead of eth0 and lo |
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| 09:03.21 | cdemwell | fireba11: Bull. I upgraded a working install using apt-get. |
| 09:03.27 | m0rbid | nextime: I havent gotten into VPN's yet, I had no need to, although I am interested in its features. |
| 09:03.38 | cdemwell | fireba11: Also, a later apt-get update && apt-get upgrade solved the issue. |
| 09:04.18 | darkness_ | pok, Right i'm off to check. |
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| 09:04.30 | deeler | poweroff -p doesn't seem to shut down my pc, .... any suggestions ? ? ? |
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| 09:04.38 | Guerin | deeler: acpi |
| 09:04.42 | fireba11 | cdemwell: hum .. the reason was most likely an unusual setup anyway ... |
| 09:04.44 | cdemwell | deeler: shutdown -h? |
| 09:04.47 | cdemwell | fireba11: Not at all |
| 09:04.53 | cdemwell | this was a workstation, local delivery only |
| 09:05.00 | deeler | okay, just a second, i'll try it |
| 09:05.02 | nextime | m0rbid: i was only explain an example to say that default configs and feeling safe is subjective |
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| 09:05.04 | fireba11 | cdemwell: how did it happen then ? never happened to me |
| 09:05.24 | cdemwell | fireba11: I've no idea how it happened. It happened on *all* my workstations, and not all of them have identical hardware. |
| 09:05.29 | m0rbid | nextime: agreed. |
| 09:05.33 | cdemwell | The problem is now gone, though |
| 09:05.48 | fireba11 | cdemwell: you filed a bug ? |
| 09:05.57 | cdemwell | fireba11: Nope. |
| 09:06.21 | cdemwell | I figured it was probably due to a mismatch between dependencies that would get solved sooner or later |
| 09:06.40 | cdemwell | and before I could get around to troubleshooting it more carefully, the Almighty Debian Maintainers dealt with it |
| 09:06.42 | cdemwell | yaay! |
| 09:06.51 | deeler | i've installed acpi and acpid via apt-get ... |
| 09:06.51 | liable | cdemwell: so you think having a poor partitioning scheme is a good reason to allow root login over ssh? |
| 09:06.57 | deeler | doesn't work yet |
| 09:06.59 | cdemwell | liable: bahaha |
| 09:07.01 | cdemwell | fuck off. |
| 09:07.14 | cdemwell | That's disingenious and you know it. |
| 09:07.18 | liable | gladly |
| 09:07.33 | m0rbid | hahaha |
| 09:07.39 | pilgrim | Again, I'm not trolling. It appears to me that sometimes (most of the time?) packages in Ubuntu(stable) are more up-to-date than the same packages in Debian (stable)--correct me if I'm wrong. And often these packages in stable Ubuntu are available in _unstable_ debian. My question is how could the same package be stable for Ubuntu and unstable for Debian. Does the word stable mean different things for ubuntu and different for debian? |
| 09:08.21 | deeler | i remember on another machine there was a daemon running for powermanagement, something like apd ... but i can't find it ... does anyone know ? |
| 09:08.26 | SlayerXP | pilgrim: that's because ubuntu has a different definition of stable. |
| 09:08.26 | bibe | pilgrim : yes, "stable" means different things to Debian and Ubuntu |
| 09:08.26 | cdemwell | pilgrim: Yeah, Ubuntu has a different definition of stable. |
| 09:08.41 | cdemwell | Debian Stable means it runs well on all Debian's platforms, AFAIK. |
| 09:08.52 | pilgrim | OH! |
| 09:09.11 | Guerin | um |
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| 09:09.17 | Guerin | !meaning of stable |
| 09:09.17 | dpkg | ok, listen up. "Stable" in debian terminology means "doesn't change". Stable is stable. Unstable, by definition is not, unless you don't update it, which means you're not up-to-date with security fixes. Either way, you're wrong, and you sound stupid, and you're giving a false impression of what sid is REALLY like. See <sid evangelism>. |
| 09:09.21 | deeler | got it; i needed apmd ... |
| 09:09.24 | bibe | Guerin : great |
| 09:09.25 | m0rbid | jm_: now I am getting the errors from BTS. Ill check with that now. |
| 09:09.39 | pilgrim | So than, in theory, debian unstable should be as stable as ubuntu stable? Again, in theory? |
| 09:09.45 | mage | ssl certs are attached to a hostname and not an ip right? |
| 09:09.45 | Guerin | pilgrim: no. |
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| 09:10.08 | SlayerXP | pilgrim: unstable is beta quality software, use it at your own risk. |
| 09:10.19 | Guerin | mage: yes and no. They verify the ip address matches the hostname. |
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| 09:10.40 | timmeh | hi, can anyone please tell me how to setup all the files in a directory to have rwx for a certain group? i tried "chgrp -R group directory" accept its only setting the folder as wrx |
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| 09:10.54 | pilgrim | dpkg: I'm sorry for "sounding stupid". Thanks for your answer. |
| 09:11.21 | zven | Totem playing only 1st track of VCD... How to play other? |
| 09:11.23 | The_Lord_Of_The_ | its the same |
| 09:11.30 | The_Lord_Of_The_ | dsn do the work |
| 09:11.37 | The_Lord_Of_The_ | its secure socket |
| 09:11.41 | EdLin | pilgrim: Debian releases stable based on there being no critical bugs in all its packages, Ubuntu releases a new version based on what time every six months a new version of GNOME releases. |
| 09:11.44 | Guerin | The_Lord_Of_The_: wtf? |
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| 09:12.04 | cdemwell | pilgrim: dpkg is a bot, FYI. |
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| 09:12.14 | cdemwell | No need to thank it, although it's cute. |
| 09:12.16 | pilgrim | cdemwell: demn. |
| 09:12.46 | pilgrim | cdemwell: I though "someone was home". |
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| 09:12.58 | timmeh | could anyone please help me with chgrp? |
| 09:13.09 | ErrGe | timmeh: what is the problem? |
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| 09:13.23 | lixus | timmeh, shoot |
| 09:13.28 | timmeh | how to setup all the files in a directory to have rwx for a certain group? i tried "chgrp -R group directory" accept its only setting the folder as wrx |
| 09:13.31 | EdLin | !what are you? |
| 09:13.31 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 09:13.46 | timmeh | like the folder cahnges permission but the the files inside |
| 09:13.53 | ErrGe | timmeh: next command: chmod g+rwx -R directory |
| 09:13.56 | pilgrim | !blootbot |
| 09:13.57 | dpkg | from memory, blootbot is a severely modified infobot (right now, the code doesn't even look like infobot any more), by xk. Homepage at http://blootbot.sourceforge.net. Archive is at http://www.nyip.net/~apt/blootbot. See blootbot debs now in debian, or if you didn't already know this you probably don't want to run a blootbot unless you're very good with perl |
| 09:13.58 | pitillo | timmeh, man chmod |
| 09:14.03 | lixus | timmeh, chmod -R g+rwx |
| 09:14.12 | timmeh | oh ok |
| 09:14.14 | timmeh | thankyou ^___^ |
| 09:14.17 | Guerin | dpkg, blootbot =~ s/odified/utiliated/ |
| 09:14.17 | dpkg | Guerin: OK |
| 09:14.30 | brox | :) is just deleted 50% of my hd - aka. /var/tmp |
| 09:14.31 | streuner | timmeh: check out FAQ for 'Permissions' too |
| 09:14.59 | lixus | timmeh, plus "chgrp -R somegroup somedir |
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| 09:15.10 | brox | !perl |
| 09:15.11 | dpkg | from memory, perl is the Pathologically Eclectic Rubbish Lister, or confusing as hell to learn but quite powerfull if you know how to use it, or see http://learn.perl.org/library/beginning_perl/ |
| 09:15.25 | streuner | timmeh: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/Permissions |
| 09:15.25 | ErrGe | !ruby |
| 09:15.26 | dpkg | ruby is, like, a pure object oriented script language with a simple and clean syntax. It's supposed to have the best characteristics of Perl and Smalltalk. Learn about it at http://www.ruby-lang.org . a language that seems like a messy (Perlish) Python, or at http://www.rubycentral.com, or http://www.poignantguide.net/ruby/ |
| 09:15.30 | pilgrim | !sid evangelism |
| 09:15.30 | dpkg | [sid evangelism] Sure, run Sid all you like - do as you please - just don't advise inexperienced users to run unstable as their main debian install. If you do, you get to help them exclusively, and #debian gets to curse your name for ever more. |
| 09:15.39 | pngwn | !pmm |
| 09:15.39 | dpkg | methinks pmm is please /msg me, don't make me spew to the channel, or you can go to #debian-bots if you want to play with me |
| 09:15.46 | timmeh | thankyou for your help, i'll try it now |
| 09:16.09 | pilgrim | pngwn: thanks |
| 09:16.14 | brox | !python |
| 09:16.14 | dpkg | [python] a very nice scripting language, easy to learn and still quite powerful and elegant if you know how to use it, or see http://python.org/topics/learn/ |
| 09:16.20 | Guerin | !msg the bots |
| 09:16.20 | dpkg | Oi, guerin, message the bots, so you don't spam the channel. /msg apt foo. *snarl* Thankyou |
| 09:16.31 | Guerin | dpkg: will do, mate. |
| 09:16.52 | cdemwell | heh |
| 09:16.57 | EdLin | dpkg: msg the bots =~ s/apt/dpkg/ |
| 09:16.57 | dpkg | EdLin: OK |
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| 09:18.30 | darkness_ | I may have found the problem with my internet connection. ifconfig shows eth0 as 192.168.0.2 but my internet connection should be 192.168.0.1? |
| 09:18.47 | Guerin | darkness_: well, you know how to change it |
| 09:19.17 | darkness_ | Guerin, not exactly. I thought it was in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:19.25 | darkness_ | But that shows 192.168.0.1 |
| 09:19.44 | cdemwell | uh |
| 09:19.50 | cdemwell | /etc/network/interfaces last I checked. |
| 09:19.54 | ErrGe | darkness: resolv.conf shows your nameservers |
| 09:20.06 | Diazepam | guys is there a python channel on freenode - could have sworn it was here last month! |
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| 09:20.16 | cdemwell | Diazepam: yes. |
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| 09:20.49 | ErrGe | Diazepam: #python ??? |
| 09:21.04 | Diazepam | errge: i just tried "/join #python" and got a no channel error |
| 09:22.07 | cdemwell | are you identified? |
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| 09:22.08 | ErrGe | Diazepam:then something is wrong with your gaim, or you don't know how to use it |
| 09:22.12 | Guerin | Diazepam: try registering with nickserv |
| 09:22.13 | takatumi | Diazepam: you need to register and id to nickserv to join some channels. |
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| 09:22.20 | pngwn | Diazepam, ##python |
| 09:22.39 | cdemwell | pngwn: #python works fine, he just needs to ID |
| 09:22.48 | Diazepam | pngwn: ahh yep there it is ##python |
| 09:22.54 | EdLin | ErrGe: at any rate something is wrong if you're using gaim for irc. ;-) |
| 09:23.00 | Guerin | agreed |
| 09:23.15 | jm_ | just as asking about it in #debian is wrong |
| 09:23.33 | EdLin | Diazepam: lilo did some server work recently, so even if you're identified you may need to identify again. |
| 09:23.37 | Diazepam | lol - talk about rightousness |
| 09:24.21 | ErrGe | delin: diazepam's ircname is gaim, not mine :) |
| 09:24.27 | m0rbid | KABOOM! |
| 09:24.33 | m0rbid | boxen go boom. |
| 09:24.44 | ErrGe | but anyway you all were right, #python is secury, chanserv info says it, so registration is needed with nickserv |
| 09:24.51 | cdemwell | m0rbid: don't use 120V gear on 240V? |
| 09:25.15 | m0rbid | nay, I found an easier way. yaird & new kernel! |
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| 09:39.17 | SimonRaven | bleh |
| 09:39.39 | dondelelcaro | blearg |
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| 09:43.22 | muhoo | alas, the debian sid and sarge packges of jython have screwed me |
| 09:43.33 | muhoo | they were not compiled with mysql support :-( |
| 09:44.18 | muhoo | zxJDBC is supposedly "built in" to jython 2.1. not on debian it ain't. |
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| 09:48.04 | oleth | hello, has anyone used samba and cups? |
| 09:48.10 | sjr | oleth: ya |
| 09:48.33 | oleth | sjr: I have a problem and I would like to ask |
| 09:48.42 | sjr | oleth: go for it, I'll do my best |
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| 09:49.28 | oleth | sjr: I have on my window machines printing jobs stuck... |
| 09:49.34 | oleth | I cleared the cups queue |
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| 09:49.50 | oleth | but it stll remains on the windows side.... |
| 09:50.15 | oleth | as a result I can't print something else... |
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| 09:51.10 | oleth | sjr: have you had any similar problem? |
| 09:51.58 | Eclipser_ | boot works for windows everytime |
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| 09:52.19 | oleth | I tried :-) logout, boot... |
| 09:52.48 | darkness_ | Hi, can someone walk me through changing eth0 to 192.168.0.1 please. Can't i do ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 >> /etc? |
| 09:52.53 | Eclipser_ | maybe some windows channel would be more likely to help? |
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| 09:53.35 | jk_work | darkness_: why '>> /etc' ? |
| 09:53.36 | marcel | I'm trying to install debian on a ppc 7600/200 but the CD wont boot. What gives? |
| 09:54.04 | oleth | I'll try there too but since I have the samba/cups I said to give a shot here :-) |
| 09:54.23 | darkness_ | Eclipser, well plz tell me the location to change this? |
| 09:54.28 | Eclipser_ | !plz |
| 09:54.28 | dpkg | i guess plz is german abbreviation for 'Postleitzahl' (zip-code). this aint a warez channel. L33t-speak for "please", or don't type it |
| 09:54.45 | jm_ | oleth: did you check cups error log? |
| 09:54.57 | darkness_ | heh |
| 09:54.59 | Eclipser_ | darkness_, man interfaces, edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 09:55.20 | pearl | plz, hehe |
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| 09:55.29 | pearl | im german btw. =) |
| 09:55.36 | darkness_ | Me too. |
| 09:56.05 | darkness_ | Eclisper, can't i do it at the command line? |
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| 09:56.20 | pearl | darkness_: u can |
| 09:56.30 | pearl | read man echo |
| 09:56.37 | pearl | man interfaces |
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| 09:57.11 | pearl | i think you need man bash too :D |
| 09:57.37 | pearl | its easier to read man interfaces and join the file manually and change it |
| 09:58.03 | Eclipser_ | yeah |
| 09:58.13 | darkness_ | what if i do ifconfig eth0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0 up && route add default gw 192.168.0.1 && echo "nameserver 192.168.0.1" >> /etc/network/interfaces |
| 09:58.33 | pearl | wtf? |
| 09:58.52 | SimonRaven | ftw |
| 09:58.53 | pearl | nameserver in /etc/network/interfaces? *lol* |
| 09:59.09 | darkness_ | Actually /etc/resolv.conf |
| 09:59.11 | darkness_ | :-) |
| 09:59.17 | pearl | yes |
| 09:59.19 | pearl | thats right |
| 09:59.36 | darkness_ | Just wondered how far you take the piss :-) |
| 09:59.41 | pearl | look at the example in man interfaces |
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| 10:02.02 | oleth | jm_: I checked just now for E (errors) but nothing there... |
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| 10:03.58 | jm_ | oleth: then check samba logs I guess |
| 10:04.31 | oleth | jm_: checked that too :-) everything is juuuust fine... |
| 10:04.43 | jm_ | oleth: why is it not working then? :) |
| 10:05.08 | BertoX | how to clean modules loading at boot time to not have : module_x : already loaded anymore please ? |
| 10:05.17 | oleth | jm_: I am pulling my hair off trying to find out ... |
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| 10:06.16 | jm_ | oleth: try to submit a new CUPS job on the machine itself, if that works, then I guess CUPS is working, then submit it to samba locally and test if that works |
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| 10:08.23 | oleth | jm_: is it possible to do this from a windows machine? I mean if I try to submit a new job from debian or do an lpr from putty (on windows) it works. The problem is only when printing on the windows side :-( |
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| 10:08.50 | jm_ | oleth: what if you submit it to Samba on Debian, does it work? |
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| 10:09.45 | oleth | jm_: yes fine!! no problems. Only when trying to print through windows only the win's printing queue never empties |
| 10:10.16 | jm_ | oleth: does the request even reach Samba? |
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| 10:11.27 | oleth | jm_: ehm. To be honest I don't know how to find this out ... |
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| 10:12.12 | oleth | jm_: on the lpq nothing appears, I mean I have checked the CUPS but not the Samba... |
| 10:12.14 | ArabianMystic | Greetings. |
| 10:12.40 | deeler | hi |
| 10:12.44 | ArabianMystic | I am new to the Debian distro and I have a small, possibly trivial question (no less frustrating though) |
| 10:12.54 | deeLer | shoot |
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| 10:13.17 | ArabianMystic | When I click on the download mirror links I see many, many ISOs (14 if memory serves) and I am unsure of which I need to download. |
| 10:13.40 | ArabianMystic | What I'd like is a basic desktop system to start (base system + x & gnome etc.) |
| 10:13.50 | shay | ArabianMystic, it'll be enough with the first disc |
| 10:14.04 | shay | ArabianMystic, and you can install a base system with any of the first three |
| 10:14.04 | jm_ | oleth: I would enable debugging for samba and the check the logs/debug output |
| 10:14.06 | exo | ArabianMystic: Go for the netinst image |
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| 10:14.27 | saintiss | hi... does anyone have a clue as to why my parallel printer just doesn't react to printer jobs anymore after a recent upgrade to etch? everything *seems* to work, as I don't find any error msgs |
| 10:14.41 | ArabianMystic | exo: I tried the netinst image actually. The thing is, I am pretty new to this and I was completely unsure of what to get. |
| 10:15.07 | oleth | jm_: I guess I'll try this... work to do now(find out how this is done)! thanks :-) |
| 10:15.19 | ArabianMystic | If I'd just like enough to run basic system with X and Gnome, which CDs should I download? |
| 10:15.25 | jm_ | oleth: man smbd |
| 10:15.43 | oleth | jm_: yep yep |
| 10:15.52 | oleth | thanks again, bye |
| 10:16.21 | exo | ArabianMystic: With the netinst image you have an installer, everything else is downloaded during installation |
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| 10:16.55 | takatumi | exo: installer+base, biz card only installer. |
| 10:16.58 | ArabianMystic | exo: When the netinst finished I only had a base system - no X, not even pine or vi was installed. |
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| 10:17.09 | exo | takatumi: right |
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| 10:17.54 | exo | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.36 | int_21h | help me to configure my extenal modem |
| 10:18.52 | ArabianMystic | exo: it asks me to ask it about <install guide>, how might I do that? |
| 10:18.55 | deeLer | ArabianMystic, go with the netinst ... select Desktop Environment during install |
| 10:19.08 | deeLer | make sure you have a network connection |
| 10:19.09 | ArabianMystic | deeLer: I did just that - still no X. |
| 10:19.17 | ArabianMystic | deeLer: Of course I do ;) |
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| 10:20.03 | deeLer | ArabianMystic, do an apt-get install kde or apt-get install gnome .... all the necessary packeges will be downloaded and installed |
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| 10:20.30 | int_21h | help me to configure my external modem |
| 10:20.37 | ArabianMystic | Oh goodness - the install guide has this to say: "For information on how to download Debian GNU/Linux from the Internet or from whom official Debian CDs can be purchased, see the distribution web page. The list of Debian mirrors contains a full set of official Debian mirrors, so you can easily find the nearest one." |
| 10:20.43 | ArabianMystic | How utterly useless. |
| 10:21.21 | ArabianMystic | deeLer: Hmm... I should try that. Do you have an idea of how long that operation would take? |
| 10:21.49 | deeLer | i took me a half an hour |
| 10:21.54 | deeLer | depending on you internet connection |
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| 10:22.04 | ArabianMystic | I have Cable. |
| 10:22.14 | deeLer | i guess you can also do a base-config and go to the package selection |
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| 10:22.22 | ArabianMystic | Base-config? |
| 10:22.35 | deeLer | yes, just run the command 'base-config' |
| 10:22.50 | ArabianMystic | Let's see what I can do about this. |
| 10:22.59 | ArabianMystic | Thank you friends for your help and advice. |
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| 10:23.08 | deeLer | np |
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| 10:23.32 | cello_rasp | does the file server package collection include ftp or just samba? |
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| 10:24.25 | tomiq | do you know some complex network configuration tool? I thik I need it cause I tried to establish VPN connection, it fails and other configuration has to be rewritten after reboot... (I don't know what happend) |
| 10:25.11 | cdemwell | tomiq: Yes, I do. |
| 10:25.24 | cdemwell | However, you don't sound like you're up for using it. |
| 10:25.48 | cdemwell | anyhow, try "man ip" |
| 10:25.52 | cdemwell | maybe that will help you. |
| 10:26.14 | cello_rasp | should I install all the latest security updates listed in aptitude? |
| 10:26.23 | cdemwell | yes. |
| 10:26.32 | cdemwell | well. |
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| 10:26.37 | cdemwell | All the ones for packages you have. |
| 10:26.41 | tomiq | cdemwell: that's really semanticaly correct answer:) but can ya tell me it's name? |
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| 10:26.54 | cdemwell | tomiq: I did, it's called "ip" |
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| 10:29.28 | streuner | formorer: wenn du ein Problem hast, dann sag es |
| 10:29.37 | tomiq | cdemwell: is there some (gtk or other) frontend for this ip program? |
| 10:29.40 | saintiss | hi... does anyone have a clue as to why my parallel printer just doesn't react to printer jobs anymore after a recent upgrade to etch? everything *seems* to work, as I don't find any error msgs |
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| 10:29.49 | cdemwell | tomiq: I really don't know of any |
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| 10:30.59 | EdLin | saintiss: try reconfiguring CUPS, CUPS has a problem of needing reconfiguration for every new version reportedly. |
| 10:31.12 | filip_ | How can i see what my partition is named? |
| 10:31.32 | streuner | filip_: fdisk -l ? |
| 10:31.41 | filip_ | okej |
| 10:31.56 | tomiq | cdemwell: that's shame for me... cause I don't like those "study3orMoreDaysAndFailAgain" programs:)) |
| 10:32.07 | SimonRaven | o_O |
| 10:32.16 | cdemwell | tomiq: You wanted something "advanced" |
| 10:32.30 | cdemwell | Maybe start by talking about the problem instead of the solution? |
| 10:32.43 | saintiss | EdLin: interesting... let's try that... thanks |
| 10:33.08 | tomiq | cdemwell: because I'm not so advanced:)) |
| 10:33.34 | cdemwell | tomiq: What are you trying to do? |
| 10:33.48 | EdLin | saintiss: yw |
| 10:33.52 | cello_rasp | i have killed aptitude midway through a package collection that included stuff i didnt want. how do i remove all those packages and go back to base before manually selecting packages? manually removing is tiring! |
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| 10:36.02 | saintiss | EdLin: doesn't seem to help, but what is also weird is that even "echo test > /dev/lp0" doesn't do anything |
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| 10:36.18 | takatumi | cello_rasp: try ':' on the main trees |
| 10:37.33 | cello_rasp | thanks a lot takatumi! :) |
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| 10:38.26 | Fujoor | does anyhere here know any console email client like pine, that could handle gmail? |
| 10:38.38 | EdLin | saintiss: I don't use CUPS or a parallel port printer, so I don't have much experience in unwedging CUPS. |
| 10:38.41 | valdyn | Fujoor: uh? 'handle gmail' ? |
| 10:38.56 | jm_ | Fujoor: you can use pop3 to access gmail |
| 10:39.01 | Fujoor | valdyn: i recall that pine cant use ssl? |
| 10:39.03 | valdyn | Fujoor: does you mean 'can fetch mail from pop3 servers?' |
| 10:39.09 | saintiss | EdLin: nvm, thanks for the help |
| 10:39.15 | EdLin | saintiss: or /dev/lp0 as the case may be... |
| 10:39.17 | Paivakil | Fujoor: you download mail from gmail using fetchmail |
| 10:39.27 | valdyn | Fujoor: mutt can do it all |
| 10:39.34 | Fujoor | valdyn: is it console based? |
| 10:39.40 | valdyn | !mutt |
| 10:39.41 | dpkg | i guess mutt is the official mailer of Debian GNU/Linux (http://www.mutt.org/) or better than pine or with message threading, built-in PGP support, and more config options than you can count, or check out http://www.mutt.org/links.html#config, or more Free than pine |
| 10:39.58 | Fujoor | oh, lovely, ill check both fetch and mutt out :) |
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| 10:40.31 | cello_rasp | is there a difference between the packages 'gnome' & 'gnome-desktop-environment'? |
| 10:40.32 | goldenDoubt | how can I run a app with other user in |
| 10:40.36 | goldenDoubt | X |
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| 10:40.37 | valdyn | Fujoor: fetchmail is just to fetch mail, mutt can do it all alone, if that is what you want. |
| 10:40.45 | tomiq | cdemwell: establish vpn tunnel, or so... but I really don't know the details of this (ppp pptp pppd....) |
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| 10:41.46 | cdemwell | you don't know the details of the connection you're trying to establish? |
| 10:42.20 | goldenDoubt | sorry...how can I run a app with other user in X...I have changed xhost to allow local users to connect to display...how do I start an app with other user and redirect it to the display I want? |
| 10:42.38 | jm_ | goldenDoubt: sux |
| 10:42.43 | tomiq | cdemwell: I searched the web for a program called ccptconfig... it should work, but besides the issue that I have to reconfigure standard nt route, I'm still not able to connect to that vpn.. |
| 10:42.48 | valdyn | goldenDoubt: man sudo, man sux, do not use xhost |
| 10:42.49 | int_21h | i just wanna ask if necessary to use antivirus in linux? |
| 10:43.04 | cdemwell | tomiq: What VPN are you trying to connect to? |
| 10:43.08 | valdyn | int_21h: its not necessary on any OS |
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| 10:43.41 | tomiq | cdemwell: windowzzz ... that makes it really funny task.. |
| 10:43.43 | valdyn | int_21h: but some ugly usage / admin behaviours might make it needed on any OS. |
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| 10:43.58 | int_21h | ok |
| 10:44.11 | cdemwell | tomiq: sounds unfun. I've got to leave you to it, though |
| 10:44.16 | goldenDoubt | will it run with crontab? |
| 10:44.26 | cdemwell | I suspect you're going to have to learn some stuff on your own before anyone here can help you |
| 10:44.28 | valdyn | int_21h: that said, its harder to get a virus onto linux than windnows for sure, no matter your habbits |
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| 10:44.47 | Andy0516 | how do i move a file (but more like copy it)? |
| 10:44.58 | valdyn | Andy0516: move or copy ? |
| 10:45.03 | Andy0516 | copy |
| 10:45.09 | valdyn | Andy0516: man cp |
| 10:45.27 | int_21h | why linux is immune of some virus |
| 10:45.32 | valdyn | int_21h: it is not |
| 10:45.43 | int_21h | why? |
| 10:46.00 | valdyn | int_21h: how should it be immune? |
| 10:46.08 | tomiq | cdemwell: I did... the howto I read should be complete... but I can't still connect:( |
| 10:46.19 | int_21h | i said some virus |
| 10:46.30 | tomiq | cdemwell: will try... thanx |
| 10:46.31 | valdyn | int_21h: it is not immune, period |
| 10:46.40 | int_21h | :) |
| 10:46.42 | cdemwell | tomiq: You're trying to connect, probably, to a pptp or ipsec VPN |
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| 10:46.56 | cdemwell | if you have a choice, I'd suggest looking up openVPN |
| 10:47.04 | cdemwell | if you don't, get all the details from the administrator of the VPN. |
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| 10:47.33 | valdyn | int_21h: most debian users will only install and use official debian packages, that does guarantee a high degree of safety already |
| 10:47.56 | Parallax_ | hi, I have 2 soundcards, anyone know how do I send the output to one or another ? |
| 10:48.10 | int_21h | ahh, its nice |
| 10:48.11 | valdyn | Parallax_: cat /dev/dsp0 > /dev/dsp1 |
| 10:48.27 | valdyn | Parallax_: oh i misunderstood you |
| 10:48.29 | KiaN | hello |
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| 10:48.54 | valdyn | Parallax_: most applications have a way or two for you to pick the sound output device |
| 10:49.13 | int_21h | thanx for your input valdyn |
| 10:49.15 | KiaN | does anybody know an easy to use backup solution for Linux (Debian) - I mean with a backup daemin on a debian server downloading files through rsync, ftp other methods ? |
| 10:49.16 | Parallax_ | amarok for example |
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| 10:49.34 | valdyn | KiaN: dirvish |
| 10:49.46 | UltraSub | hi... i was wondering, is there any way to do a full softraid install, including /boot and / from scratch through sarge installer? because I tried about everything now, and i just can't get it to work... |
| 10:49.50 | UltraSub | am i doing something wrong? |
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| 10:51.02 | UltraSub | i understand that for booting of softraid, the kernel has to be compiled with raid support, does 2.6.8 which comes from the cd have that? |
| 10:51.09 | UltraSub | or is that the reason it won't work? |
| 10:51.23 | tomiq | did someone used pptpconfig? |
| 10:51.33 | KiaN | valdyn: I think dirvish uses only rsync and i need to backup windows servers too :( |
| 10:51.35 | UltraSub | every time i put /boot on a raid vol, lilo/grub can't be written, not active |
| 10:51.47 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: it has it, but it's built as a module and so has to be in the initrd |
| 10:52.03 | UltraSub | ah ok, but i assume that's been taking care of then |
| 10:52.05 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: if you put /boot on a raid volume, the volume has to be raid 1. No other raid will work. |
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| 10:52.11 | goldenDoubt | how to redirect the app to other display (for example start an x app from tty1 with other user)?? |
| 10:52.13 | valdyn | KiaN: i do use dirvish for windows boxes too |
| 10:52.21 | dondelelcaro | goldenDoubt: set DISPLAY appropriately. |
| 10:52.33 | UltraSub | dondelelcaro: i'm indeed talking about raid 1, but I couldn't get that to work |
| 10:52.38 | valdyn | KiaN: but you are right, its not really 'nice' for windows. ( though ssh and rsync run on it ) |
| 10:52.46 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: I've got it working here, so I know it does... |
| 10:52.48 | UltraSub | dondelelcaro: been trying for hours now :) |
| 10:53.10 | UltraSub | dondelelcaro: always lilo/grub probs at the end |
| 10:53.34 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: you have to install grub on the mbrs of both discs separately, then make sure that grub is on the appropriate raid device. |
| 10:53.56 | KiaN | valdyn: oh. i'll check it then. i'd prefer a backup system useable with a web interface, do yo know anything about this ? it needs to be used by people who know nothing about linux :( |
| 10:53.59 | UltraSub | dondelelcaro: eeeh... how can i do that, in the install screens? |
| 10:54.34 | KiaN | valdyn: Bacula seemed nice but I cant manage to understand how it works :( |
| 10:54.51 | valdyn | KiaN: backuppc |
| 10:55.02 | valdyn | !backuppc |
| 10:55.04 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1372 |
| 10:55.12 | KiaN | i tried this one too i think, let me check |
| 10:55.13 | UltraSub | KiaN: http://www.mikerubel.org/computers/rsync_snapshots/ |
| 10:55.14 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: that at least is how I do it. |
| 10:55.20 | UltraSub | KiaN: i use it for windows too ;) |
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| 10:55.31 | dondelelcaro | UltraSub: since you want to be able to boot of of either drive in case the opposite one fails horribly. |
| 10:55.35 | UltraSub | dondelelcaro: thnx, i'm going to look into it! |
| 10:55.41 | jm_ | KiaN: there's also backuppc |
| 10:55.55 | goldenDoubt | thanks it's working |
| 10:56.06 | KiaN | backuppc seems perfect, i dont know why i did not use it but there must have been a reason, i'll check for it now, thanks |
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| 10:57.12 | KiaN | nice i can apt-get install backuppc ... i'll try it again now, thanks |
| 10:58.43 | sifi | whats the differences between exit 0 and exit 1? |
| 10:58.54 | valdyn | sifi: the return value |
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| 11:00.45 | goldenDoubt | another thing is there way of closing a specific window in gnome using a script run by cron(I don't want to kill the app with sigkill) |
| 11:01.09 | KiaN | valdyn: isn't backuppc dangerous for being used for servers in a datacenter ? it seems to use samba and the package wants to install samba server :( |
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| 11:01.19 | jm_ | goldenDoubt: xwit can do lots of things, then there are tools like xnee |
| 11:02.00 | valdyn | KiaN: no |
| 11:02.09 | valdyn | KiaN: it does not depend on samba |
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| 11:02.33 | henk | hi, how do i change what network interface is called eth0 and what if eth1? they both use the same driver but i'd like to tell the kernel somehow the i want their names swaped. |
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| 11:03.07 | petemc | henk: ifrename |
| 11:03.14 | jm_ | henk: or nameif |
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| 11:03.42 | goldenDoubt | jm_:thnks :) |
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| 11:03.50 | _tomas | hi |
| 11:03.58 | KiaN | valdyn: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1373 |
| 11:04.08 | jm_ | KiaN: it only depends on samba-common |
| 11:04.09 | _tomas | can anyone help me? |
| 11:04.15 | jm_ | _tomas: no |
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| 11:04.21 | valdyn | KiaN: so? |
| 11:04.26 | streuner | _tomas: not unless you ask |
| 11:04.28 | _tomas | kaffeine crashes for me when i try to stream asf videos :/ |
| 11:04.46 | _tomas | wmv works fine but asf crashes |
| 11:04.49 | valdyn | KiaN: do you think smbclient or samba-common equal samba? |
| 11:04.49 | KiaN | valdyn: oh sorry i got misconfused |
| 11:04.56 | KiaN | i must be tired :) |
| 11:05.13 | streuner | _tomas: what happens if you using another player? |
| 11:05.20 | _tomas | and something it takes firefox with it :/ |
| 11:05.22 | _tomas | i dont know |
| 11:05.26 | _tomas | havent tried anyother |
| 11:05.29 | _tomas | do you know any good for kde? |
| 11:05.41 | _tomas | that supports xine |
| 11:05.43 | _tomas | ? |
| 11:05.46 | streuner | _tomas: vlc, xine |
| 11:05.50 | _tomas | oki |
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| 11:05.52 | fidel_ | tomis: vlc, mplayer, xine |
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| 11:05.54 | _tomas | i will look at it |
| 11:05.55 | fidel_ | too late hehe |
| 11:05.56 | streuner | _tomas: gxine, mplayer |
| 11:06.01 | _tomas | and is there any mozilla plugin for them? |
| 11:06.07 | fidel_ | mplayer yes |
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| 11:07.49 | henk | jm_ do you know if the nameif 's mactab is read by debian on startup by default already or do i need to add that somewhere ? |
| 11:08.09 | ryoohki | how do i clean up corruption in the dpkg db system? |
| 11:08.10 | dondelelcaro | henk: it isn't, you need to add it to /etc/init.d/ifupdown |
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| 11:08.23 | dondelelcaro | s/ifupdown/networking/ |
| 11:09.31 | henk | dondelelcaro, ok thnx |
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| 11:09.38 | jm_ | henk: what dondelelcaro said - there are some examples in /usr/share/doc/ifupdown |
| 11:09.41 | _tomas | how do you start mplayer? |
| 11:09.48 | _tomas | i try to run mplayer but i get no gui :/ |
| 11:09.50 | ryoohki | mplayer file |
| 11:10.00 | ryoohki | mplayer -vo vesa file |
| 11:10.07 | _tomas | oki |
| 11:10.08 | ryoohki | mplayer -vo cvidix file |
| 11:10.10 | _tomas | thanks |
| 11:10.12 | ryoohki | mplayer -vo aa file |
| 11:10.19 | ryoohki | mplayer -vo caca file |
| 11:10.23 | _tomas | =? |
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| 11:10.26 | ryoohki | mplayer -vo help |
| 11:10.28 | _tomas | oki |
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| 11:10.46 | ryoohki | try mplayer -vo whatever file one at a time |
| 11:10.57 | dondelelcaro | ryoohki: lay off the enter, please... |
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| 11:11.07 | ryoohki | dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 5539 package `kdebase': |
| 11:11.19 | ryoohki | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:11.26 | ryoohki | debsums: invalid package name `ââÈ' |
| 11:11.27 | dondelelcaro | ryoohki: restore a backup from /var/backups/; |
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| 11:11.43 | dondelelcaro | ryoohki: if you don't have a backup there, then give us line 5500->5600 using the paster bot. |
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| 11:12.12 | if | hi all, which packages i need to compile kernel-source-2.4.27 ? |
| 11:12.37 | streuner | if: why do you think you need to compile? |
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| 11:12.59 | dondelelcaro | if: build-essential, fakeroot, and possibly libncurses5-dev; but you shouldn't really need to compile a kernel. |
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| 11:13.00 | if | streuner i mean to make my own .deb kernel image |
| 11:13.05 | _tomas | thanks guys for helping me :D |
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| 11:13.38 | aphexer | my oss sound modules don't want to unload :( how can i investigate what is preventing it from unloading? it just says device busy |
| 11:13.49 | _tomas | just one more question |
| 11:13.56 | _tomas | is it possible to let mplaye handles asf |
| 11:13.59 | _tomas | and kaffeine wmv? |
| 11:14.04 | if | fine i got these, but there is something other probably.. which i make wrong |
| 11:14.45 | _tomas | guys? |
| 11:14.46 | streuner | if: just a thought, i fucked my SCSI HD some years ago, compiling the wrong module... |
| 11:15.06 | if | i untar the source, enter the dir, make mrproper... make menuconfig.. make-kpkg --revision if1.0 kernel_image... and i get an error |
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| 11:15.55 | if | i hadn't problems with compiling kernels from debian patched kernel-source in 2.6.. but this one is 2.4 |
| 11:16.19 | streuner | if: there are more than 500 options to compile kernels nowadays, but if you care about your hardware just go ahead |
| 11:16.29 | streuner | don't* |
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| 11:16.55 | _tomas | guys? |
| 11:17.30 | streuner | _thom: that's an codec issue, if you have the codec installed players aren't care then |
| 11:17.44 | streuner | _tomas: ^^^ |
| 11:18.56 | saintiss | drwxrwx--T |
| 11:18.58 | saintiss | what is T? |
| 11:19.05 | saintiss | and how can I set/unset it? |
| 11:19.13 | _tomas | i have all codecs |
| 11:19.14 | saintiss | chmod o-T doesn't do it |
| 11:19.22 | bbrazil | saintiss: sticky bit, chmod o-s |
| 11:19.32 | _tomas | but i want mplayer to handle streaming files like asf and kaffeine the rest |
| 11:19.44 | Fujoor | what is the command to start the ssh server manually? start ssh.d? |
| 11:19.44 | saintiss | bbrazil: I thought sticky was t, not T |
| 11:19.57 | bbrazil | saintiss: varies depending on it the file is world-executable |
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| 11:20.12 | bbrazil | saintiss: s/it/whether/ |
| 11:20.21 | caphuso | saintiss: T is t without x set |
| 11:20.28 | saintiss | ok, thanks |
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| 11:20.39 | harsh3434 | sshd start |
| 11:20.39 | saintiss | bbrazil: still, then it is +t, not +s, s seems to be suid |
| 11:20.47 | if | Fujoor /etc/init.d/ssh start |
| 11:21.07 | bbrazil | saintiss: it depends on the location, +s is suid/sgid but thats only really in ls output |
| 11:21.10 | Fujoor | thank you if |
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| 11:21.11 | harsh3434 | will it work? sshd start. i guess it does. |
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| 11:21.44 | bbrazil | saintiss: suid goines with the user permissions, sguid with the group and the sticky bit with other |
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| 11:22.05 | Fujoor | if: so if i put that line in the xinitrc, it will start automaticly |
| 11:22.11 | _tomas | oki thanks |
| 11:22.14 | _tomas | bye |
| 11:22.20 | if | Fujoor it's useless to do that.. |
| 11:22.27 | saintiss | bbrazil: ic... thanks :) |
| 11:22.48 | Fujoor | if: why? |
| 11:22.59 | if | probably if there is /etc/initd.d/ssh it will be runned at startup, it should be +x (ssh) |
| 11:23.13 | if | init.d* |
| 11:23.26 | Fujoor | +x ? explain please |
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| 11:23.51 | if | +x means that the file is executable |
| 11:23.57 | if | chmod +x /etc/init.d/ssh |
| 11:24.11 | Fujoor | if: ok, thats way over my head, i dont even know what chmod is |
| 11:24.37 | Fujoor | i just want to be able to access one of my computers with putty |
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| 11:24.46 | dondelelcaro | Fujoor: change mode; it changes the permisions (mode) on a file. |
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| 11:24.56 | dondelelcaro | Fujoor: man chmod; info coreutils 'File Permissions' |
| 11:25.00 | Fujoor | donde: ahaa, wait ill write it down |
| 11:25.04 | vovo4ka | how to change language in debian? |
| 11:25.23 | nkuttler | Fujoor: why has that been changed? it's default that sshd starts at boot? |
| 11:25.30 | dondelelcaro | vovo4ka: set LANG and/or LANGUAGE appropriately. |
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| 11:26.20 | Fujoor | nkuttler: probably not in dsl |
| 11:26.24 | Fujoor | (damnsmalllinux) |
| 11:27.07 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, when trying to change language by change LANG to for example nl (dutch), and trying to open a man page it says 'can't set the locake; make sure $LANG is correct" |
| 11:27.18 | aphexer | how can i fix that? |
| 11:27.19 | Fujoor | jupp it worked, thanks a bunch guys :) |
| 11:27.22 | aphexer | or install the language? |
| 11:27.24 | vovo4ka | don thanx |
| 11:27.29 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: dpkg-reconfigure locales; and make sure you've built the right language. |
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| 11:30.21 | JJK | Hello, does anyone know how to set up networking for a UML guest? My host can ping the guest, but the guest can't ping the host. The packet flies away, it looks like it doesn't even get a response. |
| 11:32.28 | if | what means UML? |
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| 11:32.46 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, i installed the right locales now, and set LANG=nl_NL.UTF-8@euro and the same for LANGUAGE and LC_ALL, still not a difference in the messages i get from the system, what should i change next? |
| 11:32.55 | EdLin | !uml |
| 11:32.55 | dpkg | somebody said uml was User Mode Linux, which allows you to boot a kernel in user space. http://user-mode-linux.sourceforge.net/. Unified Modelling Language, or at http://people.debian.org/~wli/uml_0.37-1_i386.deb, or has been integrated in ac patches, and has a woody->sarge converter at http://gnea.net/uml_howto.txt |
| 11:34.21 | JJK | EdLin, thanks, but I've used user-mode-linux.sf.net already as well as other sources. However, I can't find the solution for this problem. |
| 11:34.46 | EdLin | JJK: I was answering if's question |
| 11:34.55 | JJK | okay, I'm sorry |
| 11:35.01 | EdLin | np |
| 11:35.18 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: what is the output of grep nl /etc/locale.gen? |
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| 11:36.19 | aphexer | both nl_NL.UTF-8@euro UTF-8 and nl_NL@euro ISO-8859-15 |
| 11:36.26 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, ^ |
| 11:37.04 | if | thnx |
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| 11:37.39 | spezticle | hey, need help installing debian... X failing because of video display failure. |
| 11:37.46 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, are the man pages and output from various programs in all languages installed by default? |
| 11:37.49 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: and when you go locale -a; you see them too, right? |
| 11:38.08 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, yeah they show up too in locale -a |
| 11:38.09 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: and perl -e '1;' works without returning any warnings, right? |
| 11:38.35 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, yes perl doesn't give any warning |
| 11:39.22 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: cool; can you give me the exact output that man chmod; or similar is giving you ? |
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| 11:39.58 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, you want me to paste the man page? |
| 11:40.01 | aphexer | :/ |
| 11:40.09 | aphexer | it's in english, not in dutch |
| 11:40.36 | aphexer | and man isn't giving any warnings about LANG being set to something wrong |
| 11:41.18 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, it's just LANG and LANGUAGE and LC_ALL i have to set right? (wouldn't know what each of them does actually, but it doesn't work) |
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| 11:42.33 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: ah, good. I thought you were still having the original error with man complaining about your locales. |
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| 11:42.43 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, no :) |
| 11:42.55 | aphexer | but why is it still in english? |
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| 11:43.10 | aphexer | are the man pages installed in all languages by default? or is that another package? |
| 11:43.12 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: because you haven't installed manpages-nl; or whatever manpage your viewing doesn't have a nl versino |
| 11:43.17 | spezticle | well, i'll try a different approach. Can someone point me in the direction of information for learning hardware setup? |
| 11:43.30 | if | man -L locale |
| 11:43.34 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, and what about other programs, like just rm and such, how do i get those error messages in dutch? |
| 11:43.53 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: assuming their error messages have been translated, you should already begin seeing them in dutch |
| 11:44.15 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: FE, apt-get update; should give you output in dutch (or at least, it does in spanish...) |
| 11:44.20 | aphexer | hm that's not the case too bad |
| 11:44.44 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, apt-get update is still in english |
| 11:44.47 | aphexer | euhm |
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| 11:45.06 | aphexer | i just set LANG=nl.... in bash, (so i didn't change my profile or so), that would do it right? |
| 11:45.07 | dondelelcaro | $ LC_ALL=it_IT dpkg -l foo |
| 11:45.07 | dondelelcaro | Nessun pacchetto corrisponde a foo. |
| 11:45.22 | dondelelcaro | FE. |
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| 11:46.04 | dondelelcaro | spezticle: what was your original question again? |
| 11:46.09 | faber2 | i am looking for gpfs for debian. any ideas? |
| 11:46.37 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, it seems it was indeed the problem that bash didn't pass on the variable, when doing LC_ALL=nl... dpkg -l foo it works here too :) thx |
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| 11:47.14 | Garda | how retarded is this. half my linux apps connect to the internet. half dont |
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| 11:47.17 | spezticle | hey, need help installing debian... X failing because of video display failure. Debian installs fine, fails after installation when trying to load X. I'm not to familiar with linux and no gui |
| 11:47.22 | dondelelcaro | aphexer: you'll need to export LANG=nl;... |
| 11:47.27 | Garda | and there's nothing different about them or anything |
| 11:47.36 | Garda | somebody wanna tell me why |
| 11:47.49 | EdLin | spezticle: Debian doesn't use X to install. |
| 11:47.52 | dondelelcaro | Garda: you'll have to give us a bit more detail... which programs? where won't they connect? |
| 11:48.25 | aphexer | dondelelcaro, i'll do that, thanks |
| 11:48.28 | spezticle | ah, yeah, i know that. i worded that poorly. It's after debian is all installed, when i boot the system up, it tries to load X and fails |
| 11:48.37 | if | spezticle what error you get ? and did you installed x-window-system & x-window-system-base & xserver-xorg/xfree86 ? |
| 11:48.58 | Garda | ok. firefox, epiphany, gaim don't. konversation, (what i'm using now) kopete, konqueror and bitornado do |
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| 11:49.17 | EdLin | if: x-window-system depends on the two other packages you mentioned |
| 11:49.23 | Garda | so kinda the kde ones do, gnome ones don't |
| 11:49.25 | dondelelcaro | !tell spezticle -about troubleshooting x |
| 11:49.35 | EdLin | if: so that's unnecesary |
| 11:49.42 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: tx is <reply> troubleshooting x |
| 11:49.42 | dpkg | ...but tx is already something else... |
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| 11:50.08 | if | hmm i needed x-window-system base.. dunno |
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| 11:50.17 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: tsx is <reply> troubleshooting x |
| 11:50.17 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
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| 11:50.51 | EdLin | if: my system says that package doesn't exist. |
| 11:50.57 | vovo4ka | help me with php5 |
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| 11:51.12 | vovo4ka | i change /usr/local/lib/php/php.ini |
| 11:51.25 | vovo4ka | but no changes by phpinfo() |
| 11:51.27 | vovo4ka | 8-( |
| 11:51.28 | if | oops i mean -core :) |
| 11:51.36 | spezticle | ah cool, thanks for that. Yeah, i got it to work fine on another PC, i've come to the conclusion that my video card needs proper drivers that i dont have. I get an error saying that Debian failed to load X because of wrongful video settings. Try reconfiguring and starting X again. It's reconfiguring or installing new drivers i'm not to sure on how to do |
| 11:51.54 | dondelelcaro | vovo4ka: debian's php probably isn't reading that php.ini. |
| 11:51.56 | if | anyway xserver will require it |
| 11:52.26 | EdLin | if: "x-window-system" pulls in -core, though actually you only need -core plus an xterm and a window manager. x-window-system does unnecseary and sometimes problematic things like installing xdm. |
| 11:52.30 | vovo4ka | dondelelcaro, cool... what to do ? 8) |
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| 11:53.03 | vovo4ka | how to set session save path? |
| 11:53.10 | tarzeau | hard disks suck! |
| 11:53.11 | EdLin | if: most desktop systems should *not* install xserver alone, and x-window-system and xws-core both pull in xserver. |
| 11:53.40 | tarzeau | EdLin: yeah i always only recommend -core |
| 11:54.00 | EdLin | tarzeau: yep. |
| 11:54.13 | spezticle | i'm not sure about all what was installed. the 'wizard' for install tried to autodetect some basic hardware. video/mouse/ and network. didn't use any special commands when booting from the DVD i ordered. 3.0rc i think is the version i got. bought it bout a month ago |
| 11:54.13 | dondelelcaro | vovo4ka: depends which php you're talking about. If it's with apache, see /etc/apache/php. |
| 11:54.34 | tarzeau | i so hope harddisks will be replaced by something more reliable soon |
| 11:54.37 | vovo4ka | php5 |
| 11:54.41 | if | i didn't knew,thnx a lot for the info :D |
| 11:54.47 | vovo4ka | with lighttpd |
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| 11:55.25 | EdLin | tarzeau: USB keydrives would be a neat replacement, if they didn't have such a short lifetime if you do a lot of writes to them. |
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| 11:58.59 | fireba11 | question: i got a WORKING and PRODUCTIVE mailserver .. now i noticed that /etc/mailname still says localhost.localdomain ... could anything break when i change that ? vacation messages got that as mailadress and that looks pretty stupid |
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| 11:59.32 | p30n | hello |
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| 11:59.53 | p30n | how can i decide if my server is running on the edge or not, my current load: 1.97, 2.19, 2.14 |
| 11:59.56 | p30n | is that bad ? |
| 12:00.09 | bumblebee | hello |
| 12:00.10 | fooz | fireba11, /etc/mailname holds what your mail server should think its own name is |
| 12:00.13 | p30n | im running mdadm raid, and i feel its taking all my resources |
| 12:00.31 | dondelelcaro | p30n: depends... for some machines, that's perfectly normal. |
| 12:00.39 | tarzeau | EdLin: too small |
| 12:00.47 | dondelelcaro | load average: 1.33, 1.26, 1.26... |
| 12:00.51 | tarzeau | EdLin: and way too slow |
| 12:01.03 | fireba11 | fooz si i suppose no risk to break anything when i change that ? |
| 12:01.08 | tarzeau | p30n: dual cpu or single? |
| 12:01.12 | p30n | single |
| 12:01.17 | p30n | fileserver.. |
| 12:01.19 | tarzeau | p30n: what does it do? |
| 12:01.20 | p30n | and webserver |
| 12:01.27 | fooz | fireba11, there is always a risk to everything |
| 12:01.33 | p30n | local fileserver for my LAN and public webserver |
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| 12:01.37 | fireba11 | fooz: :-) no HIGH risk then |
| 12:01.50 | dondelelcaro | p30n: check and see what the processes are doing, and why your load is at 2. |
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| 12:02.11 | p30n | dondelelcaro: how can i do that ? |
| 12:02.19 | fooz | fireba11, you should make complete backups before a) powering on your server b) booting into multi-user mode c) logging in as a user d) logging in as root e) sending and receiving any email f) executing commands like `cd' and `ls' |
| 12:02.19 | tarzeau | p30n: do you run php/cgi? |
| 12:02.27 | tarzeau | p30n: check ps -ef and post an url to the output |
| 12:02.39 | fooz | fireba11, if you want to be safer |
| 12:02.49 | dondelelcaro | p30n: look at top; check ps axfu; |
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| 12:03.19 | fooz | fireba11, it would probably only help things to change that file, if it's wrong |
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| 12:03.24 | tego | hello |
| 12:03.25 | fooz | seriously |
| 12:03.28 | p30n | tarzeau: no php or cgi |
| 12:03.48 | fooz | p30n, RAID doesn't cause much extra load unless it's rebuilding, or large amounts of writes are taking place |
| 12:03.49 | tego | any beauty in there?? |
| 12:04.01 | p30n | webserver is pretty simple and not much traffic, its the fileserver mainly that is taking the resources |
| 12:04.23 | tego | hello room |
| 12:04.29 | dondelelcaro | !room |
| 12:04.29 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
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| 12:05.12 | p30n | fooz: a thing i cant understand is, when i have a large pack of files on one array, and i move it to the same array, just another place on it, it takes 3-6minutes to move it, now why is that? i mean the array has many discs but still, its shouldnt need to "move" it like that |
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| 12:05.44 | Function | my laptop doesn't start properly anymore, it says "Waiting X seconds for /sys/block/hda/dev to show up" |
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| 12:05.56 | fooz | p30n, uhh, why shouldn't it? if you were moving within the same *filesystem* it might be fast |
| 12:06.01 | jm_ | Function: using sid? |
| 12:06.03 | fooz | because it's just unlinking it somewhere and linking it another |
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| 12:06.05 | Function | I tried reinstalling the kernel image from a chroot I made with the rescue option of the installer |
| 12:06.08 | Function | jm_: yes |
| 12:06.11 | jm_ | Function: read the topic |
| 12:06.14 | fooz | but if you're moving *data* between filesystems, that takes time |
| 12:06.16 | Function | oh |
| 12:06.33 | jm_ | BTS explains how to fix it |
| 12:06.43 | Function | ah cheers |
| 12:06.44 | jm_ | sid++ |
| 12:06.50 | tego | when ever i have a movie like vcd if i put it in my pc it doesn't read at all why??? |
| 12:07.13 | tego | how do i go about it??? |
| 12:07.21 | pumpkin0 | tego: use mplayer. |
| 12:07.54 | tego | yeah i use the same but still have that problem |
| 12:08.12 | pumpkin0 | tego: can you mount these CD's ? |
| 12:08.35 | tego | i dont know i am having problem with my cellphone too |
| 12:09.02 | tego | anytime am charging it , it tells me battery cold |
| 12:09.09 | tego | whats that??? |
| 12:09.19 | tego | and whats the problem??? |
| 12:09.25 | pumpkin0 | tego: ? ... nothing debian should have an influance on... |
| 12:09.48 | tego | i dont understand that |
| 12:10.31 | tego | i need that answer very badly |
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| 12:10.59 | tego | pumpkin0 |
| 12:11.04 | tego | talk to me |
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| 12:11.33 | pumpkin0 | tego: do you know which /dev/hd? is your CD-ROM ? |
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| 12:12.01 | tego | nope??? |
| 12:12.10 | tego | nope |
| 12:12.23 | pumpkin0 | tego: How do you use a normal data-CD ? |
| 12:13.10 | BertoX | what means the 'A' in an apt line like i A deb_packet * deb_packet_description plz ? |
| 12:13.11 | tego | i put it in the cd rom it boot and open auto. at time i open it with my computer |
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| 12:13.40 | tego | even that one at time i have problems in booting |
| 12:13.47 | jm_ | BertoX: you mean aptitude? |
| 12:13.56 | BertoX | yes |
| 12:14.09 | BertoX | i for installed but A ... |
| 12:14.12 | BertoX | i don't know |
| 12:14.13 | pumpkin0 | tego: insert a vcd. start an console. try "mount /media/cdrom" |
| 12:14.30 | tego | ok |
| 12:14.41 | tego | wut about the cellphone??? |
| 12:14.48 | Konky | what do i have to do to make a usb-stick ready to unplug? are there any WORKING routines ? ^^ |
| 12:15.01 | meff | umount? |
| 12:15.25 | Konky | umount and unplug = dataloss |
| 12:15.28 | tego | pumpkin0 |
| 12:15.43 | tego | wut about my cellphones problem???? |
| 12:15.43 | jm_ | aptitude documentation explains that |
| 12:15.50 | azeem | Konky: eh? |
| 12:15.54 | BertoX | so i go to man :) |
| 12:15.54 | pumpkin0 | tego: this is #debian, not some cellphone-help-channel |
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| 12:16.07 | tego | ok |
| 12:16.09 | Konky | at least i have a lot of cases wher eit was like that |
| 12:16.12 | tego | well taken |
| 12:16.23 | tego | so where can i check that??? |
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| 12:16.52 | azeem | tego: you will have to find out yourself |
| 12:16.55 | pumpkin0 | tego: check what ? the cellphone or your vcd-problem ? |
| 12:17.05 | azeem | Konky: try running sync before umounting, but really, this shouldn't happen |
| 12:17.09 | tego | the cell phone |
| 12:17.25 | tego | we ve finish with the vcd |
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| 12:17.44 | Konky | also sync doe snot help, it only speeds a b it up |
| 12:17.56 | Konky | waiting 3 seconds after unmount helps |
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| 12:18.42 | tego | ok if i haveawriterable cd can i resave another thing by the same name to change the first one????? |
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| 12:19.03 | azeem | tego: first off, please do not use more than one question mark per question |
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| 12:20.32 | debiankid | good morning everyone |
| 12:20.48 | debiankid | i need a url to download the alsa-modules |
| 12:20.55 | debiankid | from a ripository |
| 12:21.18 | debiankid | for example deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/alsa-modules-i386/ |
| 12:21.41 | azeem | debiankid: what for? |
| 12:21.51 | debiankid | i need to install my alsa drivers |
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| 12:22.02 | azeem | debiankid: just apt-get them, there in the standard repo? |
| 12:22.11 | debiankid | how |
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| 12:22.15 | debiankid | how |
| 12:22.30 | debiankid | apt-get ???update ? |
| 12:22.33 | takatumi | !alsa one-liner |
| 12:22.33 | dpkg | hmm... alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 12:22.38 | debiankid | i did all ready yesterday |
| 12:23.25 | debiankid | i need install Package alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-686 |
| 12:23.34 | debiankid | cose im using that kernel |
| 12:24.08 | debiankid | azeem what i have to do ? |
| 12:24.35 | azeem | debiankid: to install the package "foo", type "apt-get install foo" |
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| 12:25.02 | ircrob | debiankid: thats an old kernel ! |
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| 12:25.27 | debiankid | the new kernel give me trouble using the X |
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| 12:26.05 | debiankid | my kernel is 2.4.27-2-686 |
| 12:26.31 | debiankid | azeem foo ? what for is that packcage? |
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| 12:26.45 | Gyuri | hi allz, I want to filter the standard console output "cat /var/log/auth.log" to write only the lines with "sshd" string (maybe with grep) |
| 12:26.47 | azeem | debiankid: it is a placeholder, replace it with the package name you want to install |
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| 12:27.05 | typewriter | how can i make host.domain.com on a local server resolve to 127.0.0.1? |
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| 12:27.21 | azeem | typewriter: add it to /etc/hosts |
| 12:27.28 | typewriter | i edited /etc/hosts, but you know when you nslookup host.domain.com it goes to the ext IP |
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| 12:27.39 | cahoot | Gyuri: grep <expr> <file> |
| 12:27.41 | azeem | typewriter: is that important? |
| 12:27.53 | typewriter | i dont know how to setup wordpress any other way |
| 12:27.56 | koudelka__ | i use this comp as an gateway so other machines in my network can get internet but they are only getting udp and not tcp i need help to fix this |
| 12:28.21 | Gyuri | thx |
| 12:28.22 | debiankid | ahh i have one more quiestion the enviroment configuration support socks5 ? |
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| 12:28.55 | jm_ | there are several socks libraries in Debian, Dante is socks5 compatible AFAIK |
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| 12:29.18 | debiankid | jm_ for example ... |
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| 12:29.31 | jm_ | debiankid: read my message again |
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| 12:30.03 | debiankid | http_proxy=http://x.x.x.x:3128 must be socks_proxy=x.x.x.x:1080 |
| 12:30.14 | drivamgr2006 | Hello all. Sorry about earlier, I wast talking to mathias64 and fell asleep while debian was reinstalling! It was near on 3.30am. Anyhoo, i have a problem, I have now installed debian to a hard drive, but there is no xserver which will work on my graphics card. I have tried the other intel ones and they dont work. In my other distro, my card works on a driver called i845 (Intel 845GL Chipset). Can I get this driver for debian? |
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| 12:30.32 | jm_ | you can preload apps with socks library to achieve that goal |
| 12:30.50 | debiankid | jm_ how come |
| 12:31.02 | jm_ | debiankid: what kind of stupid question is that? |
| 12:31.29 | debiankid | jm_ hey no offense im new using debian keep that in your mind |
| 12:31.48 | jm_ | debiankid: just think about what you ask first |
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| 12:32.17 | ircrob | drivamgr2006: is that the intel onboard graphics chip |
| 12:32.27 | drivamgr2006 | yes ircrob |
| 12:32.43 | debiankid | drivamgr i had the same trouble with the new kernel |
| 12:32.57 | drivamgr2006 | I have tried vesa, vga (generics), i810 and i745, none of which worked |
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| 12:33.12 | debiankid | drivamgr2006 and i had to use the old kernel and is wokring the x ok |
| 12:33.36 | drivamgr2006 | I do have previous linux experience, but I am thoroughly new to debian as of last night |
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| 12:34.04 | Jordany | HIIIIIIIIIII |
| 12:34.09 | Jordany | THERE |
| 12:34.12 | azeem | hi |
| 12:34.18 | debiankid | drivagr2006 hehehe im new too using debian , i subjest you to install debian in expert mode |
| 12:34.28 | Jordany | yes |
| 12:34.28 | jm_ | drvia;X server as shipped by Debian has support for i810 crap, but perhaps you need a newer version to get it to work with your hardware |
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| 12:34.32 | azeem | debiankid: what? |
| 12:34.35 | jm_ | drivamgr2006: read the above |
| 12:35.08 | drivamgr2006 | aha... so it might be worth using apt-get to grab a new x server off the mirror... |
| 12:35.21 | jm_ | well apt-get already gave you the latest version it could find |
| 12:35.28 | debiankid | azeem well im still having trouble to install the alsa-modules |
| 12:35.30 | drivamgr2006 | oh... |
| 12:35.46 | azeem | debiankid: whatever, don't suggest people use the expert mode in here |
| 12:35.55 | debiankid | azeem why? |
| 12:36.01 | Jordany | what |
| 12:36.12 | drivamgr2006 | so now comes what could possibly be termed a silly question: How would I get a better x server than what is already on the mirror? |
| 12:36.14 | azeem | debiankid: because one shouldn't, unless there is a very specific problem |
| 12:36.18 | debiankid | azeem thats what i did on my workstation and i am not expert using debian |
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| 12:36.30 | jm_ | drivamgr2006: did you try to configure what you have already? |
| 12:36.31 | debiankid | azeem ok |
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| 12:36.35 | azeem | debiankid: so what, don't suggest it to others |
| 12:37.01 | debiankid | azeem ookayy thats was my experience |
| 12:37.17 | drivamgr2006 | yes jm_ - I cannot get an X server to start at all. I keep getting "Fatal Server Error - 104 (connection reset by peer) |
| 12:37.31 | jm_ | drivamgr2006: what's the real error causing it? |
| 12:37.51 | ircrob | drivamgr2006: you would need to google for a driver |
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| 12:37.56 | drivamgr2006 | Screens have been found, but they have no usable configuration. |
| 12:38.03 | El-Presidente | what is the umask that gives full access to all users? |
| 12:38.12 | jm_ | paste your X logfile on some paste site so we can have a look |
| 12:38.31 | drivamgr2006 | umask=000 i believe... |
| 12:38.34 | blindboygrunt | hello alll - I'm trying to uppack a large file - and I getan error message "File size limit exceeded" on my system - has anyone seen this before? |
| 12:38.40 | debiankid | el-presidente do i know you? |
| 12:38.43 | drivamgr2006 | ok jm_ will see what I can do. |
| 12:38.58 | koudelka__ | i use this comp as an gateway so other machines in my network can get internet but they are only getting udp and not tcp i need help to fix this |
| 12:39.14 | El-Presidente | debiankid I aint sure, I honestly cant say I know you |
| 12:39.15 | jm_ | drivamgr2006: there's always the option of trying newer kernel and X.org backports |
| 12:39.18 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: ulimit -a |
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| 12:39.37 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: thanks very much |
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| 12:39.39 | debiankid | el-presidente you know spanish rigth? |
| 12:39.47 | El-Presidente | I umasked a directory with 000 yet when I tried to create a dir inside it, I get permission denied |
| 12:39.57 | drivamgr2006 | The thing is, its hard for me to paste stuff in since I have to come to my other distro to get in and talk to you. |
| 12:40.01 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: use the -S and -H options to control the soft and hard limits. only root can up the hard limit |
| 12:40.11 | debiankid | ufff |
| 12:40.13 | jm_ | drivamgr2006: you can use gpm or screen to paste things on console |
| 12:40.20 | wethion | what are the requirements for a project to make it into Debian? I've always been leery of non-Debian software, but I was just looking at a project on sourceforge via aptget.org. It's GPL and LGPL licensed. I'm just curious, is it simply a volume factor, or is there more than meets the eye. |
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| 12:40.40 | El-Presidente | no sorry debiankid, only english |
| 12:41.02 | aquarius | Is the python2.3-magic package from testing likely to work on stable? |
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| 12:41.22 | drivamgr2006 | ah. ok then, I will take a look. Gonna have to get back to you as I have just been paged to go out on a job. Back later, and thanks for your help! |
| 12:41.23 | debiankid | El-presidente ok |
| 12:41.27 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: what if the file size is already set to unlimited? |
| 12:41.32 | streuner | aquarius: what shouldn't work? |
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| 12:42.00 | streuner | aquarius: you are using a package out of unstable in stable? |
| 12:42.04 | aquarius | streuner: don't know, that's why I'm checking; I can't think of anything, but it's not in stable. |
| 12:42.04 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: then the error message is wrong. check df -h and quota -v |
| 12:42.21 | streuner | aquarius: /msg dpkg backports |
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| 12:42.52 | streuner | aquarius: if that doesn't help, /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 12:43.15 | aquarius | streuner: cheers; that seems helpful |
| 12:43.25 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: should have plenty of space - and quota is not installed - does it still apply? |
| 12:44.02 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: mount output - does it say 'quota' for the relavent filesystem? |
| 12:44.04 | koudelka__ | i use this comp as an gateway so other machines in my network can get internet but they are only getting udp and not tcp i need help to fix this, please |
| 12:44.16 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: wait, what filesystem is this on? FAT32 by any chance? |
| 12:45.10 | basix | hi. i am trying to start up my system remotely using wake-on-lan feature. I found a program that sends the wake up packet(http://www.scyld.com/wakeonlan.html). But the problem is that it says "network down". My PC is connected to a wifi router through cat5e while I am currently using a laptop connected wirelessly... Any ideas? BTW the computer which I am trying to wake up has an intel 865GBF motherboard and I have enabled the wake on lan feature... |
| 12:45.36 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: no quota on mount output - and standard debian ext3 file system |
| 12:45.46 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: how big is the file? |
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| 12:46.38 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: about dvd size :) |
| 12:46.52 | valdyn | basix: your network device needs to be 'on' to be able to wake up your system. Some LED could indicate that. |
| 12:46.58 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: give me a sec, need to look up a book |
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| 12:47.15 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: no probles - thanks for your help |
| 12:47.26 | basix | valdyn, yep. i checked out the LED. Its on |
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| 12:48.13 | basix | valdyn, any particular program i should check out? |
| 12:48.19 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: could you e2tunefs the device and tell me the block size? |
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| 12:48.36 | Nazcafan | hello |
| 12:48.36 | valdyn | basix: no idea, i havent used wol |
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| 12:48.54 | valdyn | basix: on your running system ethtool can display the wol config of you network device |
| 12:48.55 | ircrob | local|host will burn out |
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| 12:49.01 | basix | valdyn, damn. i'm stuck :| |
| 12:49.10 | aquarius | ah, the python2.3-magic from testing depends on testing's libc6. Where can I get the source of the "file" package from testing to compile my own version on stable? |
| 12:49.14 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: *tune2fs -l |
| 12:49.15 | basix | valdyn, ok |
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| 12:49.30 | aquarius | Do I have to add deb-src lines for testing in sources.list and then use apt-get source? |
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| 12:49.40 | azeem | aquarius: yes |
| 12:49.51 | azeem | aquarius: plus you need to figure out which source package `file' is in |
| 12:49.52 | streuner | aquarius: read the factoid again |
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| 12:50.00 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: sure - hold on please |
| 12:50.01 | FaithX | anyone running drbd I have a few "finer points" questions ... |
| 12:50.20 | streuner | aquarius: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 12:50.29 | valdyn | basix: man ethtool - there's alot of different subtypes of wol |
| 12:51.08 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: actulayy it doesn't make a difference, even at 1024 (lowest value) the max file size is 16GB so unless you have a dual layer double sided dvd, I can't see ypu hitting that limit |
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| 12:51.33 | caphuso | bbrazil: probably using some tool without LFS support |
| 12:51.42 | bbrazil | caphuso: that just occured to me |
| 12:51.46 | basix | valdyn, apparently, i dont see any option to query the status of wol featur |
| 12:51.51 | basix | *feature |
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| 12:52.03 | valdyn | basix: looks to me like the only type requiring a 'special' program would be 'Wake on MagicPacket(tm)' - like stuff |
| 12:52.06 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: thanks - command not found anyways |
| 12:52.17 | valdyn | basix: just run 'ethtool eth0' |
| 12:52.23 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: i am putting together a split file |
| 12:52.48 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: caphuso has suggested that whatever program you are using doesn't have large file support, so it won't work beyond 2GB |
| 12:52.53 | valdyn | basix: that will display current settings, mind though, not all drivers support ethtool |
| 12:53.09 | basix | lol |
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| 12:53.21 | basix | valdyn, yeah it supports wol (g i.e. magic packets) |
| 12:53.27 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: doh - why split a file into small files using a program that doesn't support putting it back together |
| 12:54.09 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: what program did you use? |
| 12:54.30 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: lxsplit |
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| 12:55.06 | sifi | why is not this sort out file-1.1.1 first on the list: echo file-1.1 file-1.1.1 | sort | tail -1 |
| 12:55.19 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: I'd try using 'cat' and a redirect to put it back together, no idea if it'll work. I can't find lxsplit |
| 12:55.47 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/#linux |
| 12:55.57 | ircrob | bbrazil: man growisofs says something about 2GB |
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| 12:56.22 | caphuso | sifi: uhm, sorting one line isn't the most clever thing to do |
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| 12:56.32 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: I would just have used 'split' :) |
| 12:56.33 | jm_ | that's for files in ISO9660 image, I don't think it supports files > 2G |
| 12:56.57 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: is it a debian package? |
| 12:57.11 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: textutils iirc, should be part of the base install |
| 12:57.15 | SuperSSS | I replaces RAM in the machine...Now the monitor freezes, when booting up, I can only see things scrolling, but when it should startx it freezes (no more picture). Also ssh doesnt want to accept my password i can only log over telnet. |
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| 12:57.35 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: coreutils, forgot they refactored some of those |
| 12:58.05 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: looks like it's already installed! I am a G*Ylord :) |
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| 12:58.53 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: I've no idea if that support large files though and I don't have enough space to check on my x86 system |
| 12:59.01 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: i will try with split and see how I get on - thanks very much for your help |
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| 13:00.36 | koudelka__ | i use this comp as an gateway so other machines in my network can get internet but they are only getting udp and not tcp i need help to fix this, please |
| 13:00.53 | ircrob | new day |
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| 13:01.17 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: split seems to only split a big file, how do I put it back together with split? |
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| 13:01.36 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: cat base* > bigfile |
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| 13:02.05 | basti_ | i somehow broke debconf, which is a problem. now dpkg always says "version string empty" and i can't do anything |
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| 13:02.20 | blindboygrunt | bbrazil: wow - that simple - thanks |
| 13:02.29 | basti_ | how can i get dpkg back working? |
| 13:02.32 | bbrazil | blindboygrunt: no problem |
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| 13:03.24 | lrk | hola |
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| 13:03.50 | basti_ | that is, apparently debconf works, but dpkg still complains |
| 13:03.51 | basti_ | -?- |
| 13:04.13 | cmdKeen | xserver keeps saying error 111 (connection refused) like there is no xserver at all... runing dist-upgraded etch. |
| 13:04.47 | ircrob | basti_: try reinstalling |
| 13:05.04 | basti_ | ircrob: thats very helpful, thanks. |
| 13:05.41 | jm_ | version string empty? looks like your status file is fucked |
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| 13:05.53 | basti_ | yea apparently |
| 13:05.55 | jm_ | find the entry for the package in question and verify it |
| 13:05.56 | basti_ | can i regenerate it? |
| 13:06.06 | jm_ | make a backup, edit it - it's a text file |
| 13:06.19 | basti_ | status contains exactly one package. |
| 13:06.23 | basti_ | which is dpkg |
| 13:06.33 | jm_ | look in /var/backups |
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| 13:06.39 | basti_ | but, phew, there is an automatic backup :D |
| 13:06.51 | ben_ | Hi! Could someone tell me about a good backup solution! I'd like to be able to restore a file from a date without browsing archives, ... |
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| 13:07.06 | basti_ | jm that was very helpful |
| 13:07.22 | jm_ | ben_: tried backuppc? |
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| 13:07.44 | Guerin | ben_: rsnapshot |
| 13:08.11 | basti_ | this is making progress |
| 13:08.41 | NOthsouth | how can I see my gateway ? ifconfig don't show me that |
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| 13:08.55 | bibe | NOthsouth : /sbin/route -n |
| 13:09.01 | ben_ | I was reading Bacula documenation, but I prefer ask to someone who uses to use such programs :) thx |
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| 13:09.59 | basti_ | I'll be back..... |
| 13:10.05 | cello_rasp | are there any commandline editors that come with base that ARENT vi? |
| 13:10.12 | marcelolaia | Hi All. Good day for you!!! |
| 13:10.23 | Vince34 | cello_rasp, : joe |
| 13:10.24 | NOthsouth | if I have my computer like the gateway network, how can I make a ipforwarding for another computer on my network ? |
| 13:10.27 | jgould | nano\ |
| 13:10.34 | marcelolaia | I need a little help |
| 13:10.59 | jgould | I hate it when I screw up the boot partitions..... |
| 13:11.06 | marcelolaia | I need to print a map in more then one page |
| 13:11.17 | Vince34 | cello_rasp, joe may doesn't come with bases |
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| 13:11.27 | marcelolaia | You know a package that do it? |
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| 13:11.55 | marcelolaia | I need to divide the map in four parts, for example |
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| 13:12.08 | jm_ | marcels: psutils |
| 13:12.13 | jm_ | marcelolaia ^^^^ |
| 13:12.28 | marcelolaia | Ok. Thanks |
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| 13:12.45 | cello_rasp | thx vince |
| 13:13.20 | ssm | cello_rasp: I think nano is the second editor in base |
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| 13:13.38 | ssm | cello_rasp: the first being nvi |
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| 13:15.33 | bbrazil | jgould: boot it, alt-f2 |
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| 13:16.02 | bbrazil | jgould: probably best to set your keyboard and language before the alt-f2 |
| 13:16.08 | Gnoo | I get 7 beeps, when starting my computer, it happens now when i changed the RAM modules... |
| 13:16.28 | jm_ | Gnoo: try #hardware |
| 13:16.28 | bbrazil | Gnoo: check your motherboard manual, it should tell you what that means |
| 13:16.30 | JJK|brb | Hello, I've a User Mode Linux setup with 1 host and 1 guest. I'm triying to set up networking, but pinging the host isn't working. I just don't get any response. I've disabled the firewall, and added arp entries. What should I do? |
| 13:16.35 | liran | on my new box, where the hd is sata and the dvd-rw is a regular ide, it seems like the dvd-rw isnt recognized |
| 13:16.51 | jgould | bbrazil: I just need to stop fucking with my boot loader... |
| 13:17.15 | nipra | Is it safe to use http://www.backports.org/ repository for latest packages? |
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| 13:18.02 | Gnoo | bbrazil: but sometimes the boot works, and sometimes it doesnt , why is that so? |
| 13:18.15 | streuner | nipra: some DD's usually make those debs, but keep in mind those packages aren't up to date, nor in bugs.debian.org |
| 13:18.18 | bbrazil | Gnoo: sounds like something is loose |
| 13:18.34 | bbrazil | Gnoo: or capacitors aren't charging fully |
| 13:19.26 | koudelka_ | what can block client computers from getting tcp connections, when i got a debian comp as gateway. except firewall |
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| 13:21.05 | koudelka_ | I've got a strange network problem >.< |
| 13:21.11 | JJK | koudelka_, I think it's a very hard job without a firewall. |
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| 13:21.29 | marcelolaia | jm_, I found psutils in the net, but it doesnt do what I need! I will explain: I have a map very big. I f I print it in one single page, it is very small and I dont see any letters in it. Then, I would like a program that print this map in four parts, i.e., and after I group this pages and have the map. |
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| 13:21.32 | koudelka_ | well something is blocking it |
| 13:21.49 | koudelka_ | cant find anyting in iptables or firestarter |
| 13:22.09 | azeem | koudelka_: did it use to work earlier? |
| 13:22.17 | koudelka_ | nop |
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| 13:22.47 | koudelka_ | first time i use a debian comp as gateway |
| 13:22.48 | azeem | koudelka_: what exactly does not work, replies from remote servers to local clients, or starting connections from the outside to local clients? |
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| 13:23.01 | pandrew | hi. is there a download manager in linux that can handle multiple mirrors? (to download the same file from multiple mirrors?) (ftp/http) |
| 13:23.32 | koudelka_ | they can't get tcp connections |
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| 13:23.44 | azeem | koudelka_: how exactly did you try that? |
| 13:23.52 | krystal | i am a newbie, just installed kde, what is the file i have to tweak to force it work? |
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| 13:24.11 | azeem | krystal: force it work? |
| 13:24.12 | koudelka_ | can't use irc or browse but they can use skype |
| 13:24.33 | Eulex | krystal, what doesn't work? please describe. |
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| 13:24.40 | EdLin | !doesn't work |
| 13:24.41 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 13:25.01 | koudelka_ | firestarter dosen't even log that they try to get an tcp connection |
| 13:25.11 | azeem | koudelka_: have you setup NAT on the gateway? |
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| 13:25.46 | koudelka_ | hmm, don't know |
| 13:25.59 | krystal | Eulex, trying kdeinit it says that my $DISPLAY var isn't set.. startx simply hangs out.. i just don't know which file i should configure |
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| 13:26.28 | koudelka_ | azeem, yes, got masq |
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| 13:27.01 | azeem | koudelka_: can you ping e.g. www.google.com from the clients? |
| 13:27.06 | koudelka_ | no |
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| 13:27.28 | pandrew | hi. is there a download manager in linux that can handle multiple mirrors? (to download the same file from multiple mirrors _at the same time_ ?) (ftp/http) |
| 13:27.31 | azeem | koudelka_: because your firewall blocks ping? |
| 13:27.47 | Eulex | krystal, afaik you aren't supposed to directly run kdeinit. what exactly happens when you run startx? |
| 13:27.53 | ndee | hi there, if I want to login password-free, does it matter if I generate the keys with ssh-keygen -t rsa or dsa? |
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| 13:28.17 | koudelka_ | azeem, they cant even ping when i close my firewall |
| 13:28.20 | Jochen2 | Hi debian people! |
| 13:28.32 | koudelka_ | or disable it |
| 13:28.38 | azeem | koudelka_: is the IP getting resolved? |
| 13:28.38 | Jochen2 | I am looking for a distro for a server. |
| 13:28.41 | bbrazil | ndee: not really |
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| 13:28.56 | Jochen2 | But I am new to debian, and I am asking myself if you offer AMD64 packages too |
| 13:29.02 | azeem | Jochen2: we do |
| 13:29.10 | azeem | Jochen2: see amd64.debian.net |
| 13:29.10 | Jochen2 | falso for updating? |
| 13:29.11 | krystal | Eulex, figured about kdeinit.. but i guess this is the server process that startx is related to.. startx says that it cannot connect to X server and cannot find ../usr/bin/X11/X |
| 13:29.14 | Jochen2 | ahhhhhh |
| 13:29.22 | azeem | Jochen2: yes |
| 13:29.32 | Jochen2 | you guys are beautifull |
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| 13:29.35 | Jochen2 | I will test debian |
| 13:29.45 | koudelka_ | axeem. ? |
| 13:29.59 | Eulex | krystal, you haven't got any X server installed. apt-get install xserver-xfree86 on stable (or xserver-xorg on testing and stable) |
| 13:30.05 | koudelka_ | im new to this kind of stuff |
| 13:30.10 | azeem | Jochen2: actually, rather try http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64, that has more information |
| 13:30.31 | azeem | koudelka_: when you ping www.google.com, does it say it tries to ping an IP? |
| 13:30.33 | azeem | like |
| 13:30.37 | azeem | wwwt388130@lxsrv1:~> ping www.google.com |
| 13:30.37 | azeem | PING www.l.google.com (66.249.93.99) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 13:30.45 | azeem | or does it output nothing at all? |
| 13:30.51 | koudelka_ | nop cant find host |
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| 13:31.09 | azeem | koudelka_: does 'ping 66.249.93.99' work? |
| 13:31.16 | Jochen2 | so, I should do download only from debian.org the amd64 arch images and that's it? |
| 13:31.28 | pandrew | koudelka_: you need to edit your resolv.conf |
| 13:31.33 | azeem | Jochen2: sort of |
| 13:31.42 | azeem | Jochen2: you might want to have the install manual in reach |
| 13:32.41 | koudelka_ | pandrew, what to edit? |
| 13:33.02 | azeem | koudelka_: does 'ping 66.249.93.99' work? |
| 13:33.09 | pandrew | koudelka_: first try to ping wath azeem said |
| 13:33.39 | pandrew | koudelka_: if it will work , than you don't have a nameserver. |
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| 13:34.40 | koudelka_ | azeem, it worked |
| 13:34.41 | tattoo | i would like to mount my pen drive that has been written w/ ntfs as its fs. i tried using captive but no goal cuz i'm not allowed to ls my /mnt/usb directory. can somebody help me to mount it? |
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| 13:35.09 | koudelka_ | what to do then? |
| 13:35.24 | pandrew | koudelka_: than you need to edit your resolv.conf |
| 13:35.25 | jm_ | start reading about networking concepts |
| 13:35.33 | koudelka_ | pandrew, what to ad? |
| 13:35.34 | saloxin | how do i disable a user temporary? i don't want to trash the shadow file, as i surely will forget how to untrash it |
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| 13:35.56 | Jochen2 | generally, is debian simple to install like ubuntu?! |
| 13:36.02 | sifi | how can I make tail print out "file-10" here: echo -e "file-9\nfile-10" | sort | tail -1 |
| 13:36.05 | cahoot | saloxin: giva null shell? |
| 13:36.18 | azeem | koudelka_: post its contents to a pastebin |
| 13:36.22 | azeem | !paster koudelka_ |
| 13:36.22 | dpkg | koudelka_: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 13:36.29 | pandrew | koudelka_: you need to put the IP adress of a DNS server in there |
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| 13:36.41 | koudelka_ | nameserver 195.58.103.21 |
| 13:36.41 | koudelka_ | nameserver 213.150.135.211 |
| 13:36.41 | koudelka_ | search mshome.net |
| 13:36.44 | koudelka_ | thats all |
| 13:36.44 | darkness | I've been having issues with my net conenction when i updated the sarge kernel. Now i've configured interfaces, iface eth0 inet static but still no good. |
| 13:36.46 | saloxin | cahoot: /bin/false should do it yep :-) thanks |
| 13:36.49 | Jochen2 | has it got the kde package adept and adept-update too?! |
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| 13:36.58 | azeem | koudelka_: can you ping those? |
| 13:37.00 | poli | I currently have my root on a LVM on top of a RAID1. I made some small changes (moved hdc to hdd) and now I get the ssytem running alright, but the kernel does not recognize all the components of the RAID array, that is, the second disk does not get assembled at boot time. I suspect this might be some problem with my initrd, which was generated at a kernel-image change I recently made. I noticed that initrd is generated by a script and not distributed in a packag |
| 13:37.17 | izik | hey i have "a dream" to buy some pocket pc and install linux on it and develop on it using gcc and gvim , is there is any way to do so? |
| 13:37.19 | azeem | Jochen2: Ubuntu uses the Debian installer |
| 13:37.28 | Jochen2 | GREAT |
| 13:37.34 | azeem | Jochen2: however, they have slightly tweaked it, to make it a bit more friendly |
| 13:37.35 | Jochen2 | I go DEBIAN |
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| 13:37.47 | krystal | Eulex, thank you very much.. it is all set now :) i was afraid that something might go wrong.. since i have laptop |
| 13:37.48 | azeem | but it should be no problem to use the Debian one if you're familiar with Ubuntu's |
| 13:37.54 | krystal | Eulex, moving onto it :) thanks |
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| 13:38.06 | darkness | What is MTA? |
| 13:38.07 | azeem | Jochen2: as for specific packages, best check http://packages.debian.org, which has a very nice search feature |
| 13:38.12 | pandrew | koudelka_: you can install your own nameserver that accesses the root servers (bind9 package) (if you do that, you need 127.0.0.1 in resolv.conf) |
| 13:38.12 | poli | darkness: Mail Transport Agent |
| 13:38.25 | koudelka_ | Jochen2, i installed and never even seen an linux installation before |
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| 13:38.31 | azeem | pandrew: I don't think this is necessary |
| 13:38.42 | darkness | Wish i knew what was up with my internet conenction. |
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| 13:39.02 | koudelka_ | pandrew, ok |
| 13:39.15 | Eulex | Jochen2, there's no kde app named adept in debian. what is it and what does it do? |
| 13:39.36 | azeem | koudelka_: can you ping those IPs in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 13:40.02 | koudelka_ | azeem, form client comps? |
| 13:40.06 | azeem | yes |
| 13:40.08 | ndee | I want a password-less remote login to a server, I generated my keys with ssh-keygen on the local machine, then I appended the id_rsa.pub to the authorized_keys in the remote ~.ssh/authorized_keys but it still asks for the password. The permissons are 600 and belong to the correct user. How can get rid of that password request? |
| 13:40.16 | tmjb | i am trying to build firebird2 on amd64 i got this error any ideas "dpkg-gencontrol: error: current build architecture amd64 does not appear in package's list" and exits ? |
| 13:40.52 | tmjb | this url where I downloaded dsc http://amd64.debian.net/debian-amd64/pool/main/f/firebird2/ |
| 13:41.12 | cahoot | ndee: inrease the log level and use ssh -vv |
| 13:41.12 | pandrew | azeem: sometimes it is good. i use it because my provider's nameservers dont work very well.. anyway it is not the first line in my resolv.conf |
| 13:41.25 | koudelka_ | azeem, one of them |
| 13:41.26 | pandrew | koudelka_: the resolv.conf you pasted was from the client comps? |
| 13:41.48 | azeem | koudelka_: the second one? |
| 13:41.57 | koudelka_ | azeem, yes |
| 13:42.03 | azeem | koudelka_: this /etc/resolv.conf is on the client computers? |
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| 13:42.16 | ndee | ok, will do that, just a sec |
| 13:42.19 | cahoot | ndee: and make sure the key wasn't mangled in some way when you copied it over |
| 13:42.24 | koudelka_ | azeem, client comps uses windows |
| 13:42.30 | azeem | koudelka_: ah |
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| 13:42.46 | pandrew | koudelka_: you need to set the DNS servers in windows.. |
| 13:42.48 | azeem | koudelka_: then check their networking setup, and put the second IP in theirs |
| 13:43.06 | darkness | Anyone in here lost their internet connection when updating sarge recently? |
| 13:43.10 | azeem | koudelka_: do you use DHCP to setup their networking from the gateway computer? |
| 13:43.14 | koudelka_ | yes |
| 13:43.31 | darkness | If so any help would be appreciated. |
| 13:43.37 | koudelka_ | sould i change my dns adress in DHCP.conf? |
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| 13:43.44 | koudelka_ | should* |
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| 13:43.51 | azeem | koudelka_: ok, so you should probably insert the good namerserver IP somewhere in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 13:44.09 | koudelka_ | ok |
| 13:44.10 | azeem | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.25 | azeem | modify that for your nameserver and try again |
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| 13:46.09 | pandrew | koudelka_: i'm not sure, but maybe you need to reboot your windows clients, or reset the network connection |
| 13:46.20 | pandrew | after you changed that file |
| 13:46.51 | azeem | koudelka_: and do "/etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart" after you edit the config file |
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| 13:47.13 | koudelka_ | so i should ad 213.150.135.211 isntead of 192.168.0.2 ? |
| 13:47.50 | pandrew | i'll ask again: does anyone know download manager in linux that can handle multiple mirrors? (to download the same file from multiple mirrors _at the same time_ ?) (ftp/http) |
| 13:47.58 | pandrew | koudelka_: yes |
| 13:48.40 | darkness | Is their a way to reset up the network? |
| 13:48.43 | cahoot | pandrew: isn't that what bittorrent is about? |
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| 13:49.06 | Frosted | cahoot, bittorrent isn't ftp/http :P |
| 13:49.23 | cahoot | I see - learned something new |
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| 13:49.35 | Frosted | But yea, it does download from multiple sources. |
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| 13:50.39 | tobias | when I attempt an upgrade from woody to sarge, I get: |
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| 13:50.40 | tobias | 293 packages upgraded, 120 newly installed, 147 to remove and 30 not upgraded. |
| 13:50.51 | tobias | why so many to remove & not upgrade? |
| 13:51.20 | poli | tobias: not upgrade is usually due to changes in dependencies... get them manually with apt-get install |
| 13:51.24 | basix | darkness, be more specific |
| 13:51.32 | tobias | the better question, how can I ensure a smooth upgrade process? |
| 13:51.34 | jm_ | Toba: is that upgrade or dist-upgrade? |
| 13:51.36 | Roey | hi |
| 13:51.38 | azeem | tobias: did you follow the instructions in the release notes? |
| 13:51.41 | Eulex | tobias, because the names of the packages have changed. |
| 13:51.42 | tobias | jm_ dist-upgrade |
| 13:51.43 | jm_ | tobias see above |
| 13:51.43 | Roey | can you guys help me set lvm on / with grub? |
| 13:51.49 | Eulex | !+woody->sarge |
| 13:51.50 | dpkg | First, "apt-get install aptitude". Then edit /etc/apt/sources.list, changing all non-local mentions of "woody" to "sarge". Then, "aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade". consider installing hotplug and discover1 if you're not confident with linux hardware management. see <sarge release notes>, or serious breakage for around 30% of users according to http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/06/msg00006.html |
| 13:51.51 | jm_ | tobias: and did you try using aptitude instead? |
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| 13:52.38 | tobias | jm_ i haven't used aptitude. i'll the instructions i've found simply use apt-get directly |
| 13:52.41 | tobias | i will try that |
| 13:52.46 | tobias | thanks :) |
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| 13:52.50 | jm_ | tobias: naah, Release notes tell you to use aptitude |
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| 13:53.14 | Eulex | tobias, you shouldn't use apt-get to upgrade from woody to stable. |
| 13:53.17 | poli | Roey: not that hard, really... |
| 13:53.34 | RichiH | !find tempfile |
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| 13:53.49 | Roey | poli: well I can't seem to do grub-install /dev/sda. |
| 13:54.00 | Roey | katzr@sink2:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda |
| 13:54.00 | Roey | /dev/sda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive. |
| 13:54.15 | Roey | like, wtf. /dev/sda is a scsi drive. |
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| 13:55.00 | jm_ | sometimes using grub-install --recheck helps with that |
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| 13:55.18 | ndee | http://pastebin.com/475027 <-- that's my output when I try to login with ssh -vv |
| 13:55.43 | ndee | could it be that the remote host doesn't accept key-authentication? |
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| 13:55.49 | Eulex | Roey, could you try installing grub on the drive using the grub command prompt? |
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| 13:56.07 | stew_ | ndee: /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 13:56.28 | stew_ | ndee: you have a problem on the server side, so debug it from the server side, not from the client side |
| 13:56.30 | ndee | thx |
| 13:56.30 | Roey | (fd0) /dev/fd0 |
| 13:56.30 | Roey | (hd0) /dev/sda |
| 13:56.32 | tobias | wow, that's dif: 439 packages upgraded, 278 newly installed, 24 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 13:56.38 | Roey | Eulex: I wouldn't know the device name to use |
| 13:56.43 | tobias | thanks for setting me straight, guys |
| 13:56.44 | Roey | apparently it is hd0. |
| 13:56.45 | Roey | ok. |
| 13:56.45 | tmjb | anyone know where where to find debian firebird 1.5.2 for amd64 |
| 13:56.49 | Roey | jm_: thanks, it's hd0. |
| 13:56.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'tempfile' (7 of 36): (/bin/tempfile) in utils/debianutils ;; (/usr/lib/grass/bin/g.tempfile) in science/grass ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.8/tempfile.rb) in libs/libruby1.8 ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.9/tempfile.rb) in libs/libruby1.9 ;; (/usr/lib/ruby/1.6/tempfile.rb) in libs/libruby1.6 ;; (/usr/lib/python2.1/tempfile.py) in python/python2.1 ;; (/usr/lib/python2.3/tempfile.py) in python/python2.3. |
| 13:57.30 | Eulex | Roey, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-natively.html |
| 13:57.48 | ndee | stew_: FATAL ERROR: Extra arguments in command line |
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| 13:58.09 | tobias | umm, why does aptitude change its mind about what to do between runs? |
| 13:58.19 | ndee | tobias: artificial intelligence |
| 13:58.22 | basix | i am just curious to know if anyone still uses a 486 or a pentium-1 with debian. you know like a router or some other backup device? |
| 13:58.26 | ndee | ;) |
| 13:58.47 | Eulex | basix, I'm running debian on a p1mmx 200. works very well. |
| 13:59.00 | stew_ | ndee: hmm, maybe that factoid need to be updated, hang on |
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| 13:59.10 | ndee | stew_: ok |
| 13:59.15 | basix | Eulex, cool. so i am _not_ alone :P I am using Debian Sarge on my P1MMX 166 |
| 13:59.22 | basix | Eulex, 128MB RAM |
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| 13:59.28 | stew_ | ndee: what version of debian are you running? |
| 13:59.28 | flosoft | hey |
| 13:59.43 | flosoft | I got a problem ... my Xfree isn't starting correctly |
| 13:59.51 | Eulex | basix, well, I'm not using it as desktop. it's a small server. mine has 128mb ram too. |
| 14:00.06 | flosoft | it is like 4 or 5 times next to each other ... |
| 14:00.19 | basix | Eulex, same here. Using it has a home server/router/firewall.. |
| 14:00.20 | ndee | stew_: sorry, the remote is a freebsd, the client is a debian box. |
| 14:00.26 | ndee | forgot about that |
| 14:00.26 | azeem | flosoft: 4 or 5 times? |
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| 14:00.46 | flosoft | yes |
| 14:00.49 | stew_ | !debug sshd=~s#"sshd#"/usr/sbin/sshd# |
| 14:00.54 | Eulex | !doesn't work |
| 14:00.55 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 14:00.55 | flosoft | it is an unviewable mode |
| 14:00.59 | azeem | flosoft: I don't understand, what is the error? |
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| 14:01.05 | azeem | ah |
| 14:01.11 | azeem | flosoft: then use a different resolution |
| 14:01.12 | stew_ | ndee: give sshd a full path, so /usr/sbin/sshd -d -p 2222 |
| 14:01.18 | ndee | stew_: I also tried it from /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 14:01.19 | flosoft | how? |
| 14:01.21 | azeem | flosoft: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 14:01.27 | Eulex | flosoft, what does it say exactly? |
| 14:01.33 | Karnaugh | eish, sid is a bit borked today |
| 14:01.34 | azeem | flosoft: or xserver-xorg, if you are running testing or unstable |
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| 14:01.47 | Karnaugh | this new aptitude is rubish |
| 14:01.54 | stew_ | ndee: and you get the same error? i was getting that error until i changed sshd to /usr/sbin/sshd |
| 14:01.56 | flosoft | well I reconfigured it several times |
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| 14:02.14 | ndee | stew_: yep |
| 14:02.25 | ndee | I'm using freebsd 5.3 |
| 14:02.39 | Karnaugh | ndee: jees, time to upgrade that |
| 14:02.50 | ndee | huh? |
| 14:02.57 | stew_ | ndee: dunno then, i'd make sure that the .ssh directory on the server is chmod 700 and the authorized_keys file is chmod 600 |
| 14:03.08 | darkness | Hi stew, Do you remember the networking problem i've got? |
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| 14:03.12 | ndee | stew_: for the particular user? |
| 14:03.19 | seele_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:03.19 | stew_ | ndee: yes |
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| 14:03.27 | Roey | OK I did it |
| 14:03.35 | BertoX | hmm need little help with aptitude plz : i need to use this mirror : http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ |
| 14:03.37 | seele_ | my server is postfix |
| 14:03.50 | Roey | Eulex, jm_: installed grub; did "root (hd0,2)". I think that's the end of it, yes? Now I have to edit the menus. |
| 14:03.53 | BertoX | but i'm unable to properly set the correct line in source.list |
| 14:04.08 | stew_ | ndee: if the authorized_keys file only contains stuff for this user you could delete it and recreate it using ssh-copy-id from the client |
| 14:04.13 | stew_ | darkness: refresh my memory |
| 14:04.14 | EdLin | !tell BertoX -about marillat |
| 14:04.37 | Eulex | Roey, well, you'll have to run setup on whatever device you want it on too... |
| 14:04.50 | ndee | stew_: did that |
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| 14:04.57 | BertoX | bah |
| 14:05.05 | Eulex | Roey, probably setup (hd0) in your case |
| 14:05.07 | BertoX | i really have to go buy news eyes ... |
| 14:05.08 | BertoX | :) |
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| 14:06.10 | ndee | stew_: checked also the permissions, they are ok |
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| 14:06.23 | darkness | stew. Everything worked fine upto two days ago when i updated my sarge kernel. Now i've lost my connection. Looks like the ethernet card is loaded and the driver. I've also tried to edit /etc/network/interfaces iface eth0 inet static. Still no good? |
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| 14:06.51 | ndee | I have a id_rsa and id_dsa key, is that a problem? |
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| 14:07.40 | phaedrus | someone help me with some install instructions real quick? |
| 14:07.57 | ndee | somehow, it doesn't get that it should use publickey authentication |
| 14:08.18 | Roey | Eulex: oh I forgot to setup (hd0). Thanks. |
| 14:08.28 | pok | in the /etc/network/interfaces , if i have dns-nameservers under eth0 does anybody know what seperator i should use for multiple dns nameservers? is it comma seperated, space seperated or other? |
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| 14:09.01 | Roey | Eulex: note, you can only do a setup (hd0) after you have specified a root. |
| 14:09.09 | Eulex | phaedrus, your problem is? |
| 14:09.16 | Eulex | Roey, yep, true. |
| 14:09.29 | phaedrus | can i message you the part i am having trouble understanding/ |
| 14:09.32 | phaedrus | ? |
| 14:09.45 | phanter | Helo, I now always have to type: "sudo mount //10.0.0.4/aegee /home/patrick/Wolga -o username=USER,password=PASS,dmask=777,fmask=777". How can I put this in the /etc/fstab? |
| 14:09.59 | Eulex | phaedrus, no. if you need to paste bigger amount of text you'd use paster, btw. |
| 14:10.08 | phaedrus | oh yeah |
| 14:10.15 | phaedrus | what is that url again? |
| 14:10.19 | Eulex | !paster |
| 14:10.19 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 14:10.24 | phaedrus | !paster |
| 14:10.30 | Kluster_v2 | phanter: first you might want to use a credentials file to hide your username and password |
| 14:10.32 | Roey | Eulex: I have this sick feeling that the initrd won't boot. |
| 14:11.22 | phanter | Kluster_v2, how does that work? |
| 14:11.34 | Eulex | Roey, it won't? have you setup your /boot/grub/menu.lst correctly? if you're booting via the grub command prompt, have you done initrd /path/to/initrd? |
| 14:11.39 | Kluster_v2 | phanter, it's a samba share ? |
| 14:11.48 | phanter | Kluster_v2, yes it is |
| 14:11.49 | Roey | Eulex: just mkinitrd... are they not the same/ |
| 14:11.49 | Roey | ? |
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| 14:11.51 | phaedrus | !paster |
| 14:11.51 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 14:11.57 | Roey | Eulex: oh. you mean in menus.lst |
| 14:12.13 | Roey | Eulex: yes I just did that now. BTW, it didn't work when I specified initrd.img to *lilo* |
| 14:12.19 | Roey | Eulex: now I just switched over to grub. |
| 14:13.05 | phaedrus | Eulex: is this it? http://channels.debian.net/paste/1375 |
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| 14:13.13 | Kluster_v2 | /10.0.0.4/aegee /home/patrick/Wolga smbfs credentials=/home/Wolga/.credentialfile,auto,fmask=777,dmask=777 0 0 |
| 14:13.22 | prock | I just had a server issued a shutdown command. ... Is there a log saying who done it? |
| 14:13.31 | Kluster_v2 | phanter, ^ |
| 14:13.35 | Eulex | Roey, hmm, ok. if you're unable to boot your box you can boot any random live cd, mount your partition(s) and then chroot into them. |
| 14:14.01 | darkness | Anyway to go through a gui to setup networking addresses? |
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| 14:14.37 | pandrew | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:14.44 | Kluster_v2 | phanter, the /home/patrick/.cretentialfile can be name anything and anywhere.. also it's always a good ides to specify a user and a group to "own" the share |
| 14:14.48 | Stargrove | tach zusammen |
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| 14:15.17 | Stargrove | jo was ist das für ein laden hier ?¿? |
| 14:15.36 | koudelka_ | pandrew, now it just started to work >> |
| 14:15.44 | davi__ | How to rewrite the Apache SSL certificate ? |
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| 14:16.09 | phanter | Kluster_v2, what should be the contect of that .cretentialfile? |
| 14:16.12 | Stargrove | jo whats up people |
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| 14:16.33 | koudelka_ | they still have the same dns server as before |
| 14:16.54 | Roey | Eulex: wow, it did boot. |
| 14:17.03 | Roey | Eulex: albeit with no menu. I had to specify the kernel manually |
| 14:17.05 | Eulex | prock, if it was done with sudo, yes. from a root account, no. |
| 14:17.14 | Kluster_v2 | 2 lines: the first: username=USER the second: password=PASS then a empty line |
| 14:17.15 | Roey | Eulex: that is, it booted to a grub prompt and Ihad to specify 'kernel ...' |
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| 14:17.16 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:17.16 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:17.20 | koudelka_ | thanks azeem and pandrew |
| 14:17.24 | phui | hi |
| 14:17.35 | Roey | Eulex: did I miss something when I configured grub?? |
| 14:17.40 | Eulex | Roey, ah. then you need to edit your menu.lst to automatically do what you did. |
| 14:17.42 | Kluster_v2 | phanter, 2 lines: the first: username=USER the second: password=PASS then a empty line |
| 14:17.51 | darkness | No ideas then stew_ |
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| 14:18.17 | phaedrus | hey im back |
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| 14:18.26 | phui | i'm fairly new to debian.. (and irc as well) :( |
| 14:18.29 | phaedrus | did you see that url Eulix? |
| 14:18.37 | phaedrus | Eulex |
| 14:18.37 | phaedrus | sorry |
| 14:18.48 | phui | would anyone be able to assist me in sound issues in Debian? |
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| 14:18.56 | raitchev | hello |
| 14:18.57 | Roey | Eulex: how? |
| 14:19.07 | raitchev | is there way to remove all packages that i dont use from apt cache? |
| 14:19.23 | postel | apt-get clean |
| 14:19.30 | postel | or clear? |
| 14:19.33 | raitchev | but |
| 14:19.34 | postel | one of the two |
| 14:19.42 | raitchev | this will clear all |
| 14:19.46 | raitchev | or? |
| 14:19.47 | Eulex | phaedrus, you need to install the kernel headers for your kernel. |
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| 14:20.06 | phaedrus | oh...how to do that? |
| 14:20.14 | postel | raitchev: this would clear the .debs, your installed packages would still function |
| 14:20.43 | raitchev | yes i know that |
| 14:20.57 | raitchev | but i want to keep my installed .debs |
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| 14:21.04 | raitchev | and to delete unused .debs |
| 14:21.16 | fernando_ | hola |
| 14:21.32 | Eulex | Roey, well, it should contain the same lines as you ran at the grub prompt. |
| 14:21.35 | Eulex | !es |
| 14:21.35 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:21.47 | phui | lol |
| 14:21.48 | Eulex | phaedrus, apt-get them |
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| 14:21.54 | phaedrus | ok |
| 14:21.59 | phaedrus | thank you very much |
| 14:22.13 | blindboygrunt | does anyone know of a utility in debian to convert .img files to .iso files? |
| 14:22.22 | phui | ok... debian has ALSA and OSS stuff built-in is that correct? |
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| 14:22.41 | raitchev | postel, any idea? |
| 14:22.54 | phaedrus | is it just apt-get kernel headers? |
| 14:22.57 | saloxin | blindboygrunt: mv? or is there a format difference? "file bla.img" might help |
| 14:23.27 | Eulex | phui, you need to install alsa-utils and alsa-base for alsa. and on 2.4 kernels you need apt-get the alsa modules. |
| 14:23.55 | Eulex | phaedrus, nah, apt-cache search kernel headers and pick the one that belongs to your kernel. |
| 14:23.56 | Hannibal | phaedrus: I'm assuming you want apt-get install kernel-headers-<your-kernel-revision-here> |
| 14:24.02 | blindboygrunt | saloxin: i thought there was a format difference - .img files are clone cd files i think |
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| 14:24.28 | phaedrus | is it either 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 14:24.43 | Hannibal | phaedrus: use Eulex's advice. |
| 14:24.50 | phaedrus | cool |
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| 14:24.54 | OUAH | hi |
| 14:24.56 | OUAH | how can I stop messages logging in /var/log/ksyms/ without stopping klogd? |
| 14:25.10 | phui | Eulex: I downloaded the latest alsa files, and attempted to ./configure them... apparently it didn't work when it found out it was in-built |
| 14:25.12 | jm_ | phui: no, it's enabled as modules |
| 14:25.21 | saloxin | blindboygrunt: what does file say? |
| 14:25.29 | petemc | phaedrus: whats your interpretation of "quality" ? |
| 14:25.49 | Eulex | phui, umh, don't do that |
| 14:25.58 | phui | oh crap |
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| 14:26.18 | Eulex | phaedrus, uname -r to get your kernel version |
| 14:26.19 | jm_ | OUAH: remove the dir |
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| 14:26.46 | raitchev | Is there way to remove all .debs that i dont use? |
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| 14:26.57 | blindboygrunt | saloxin: file? - nothing at all |
| 14:27.13 | phaedrus | sweet their on ther way |
| 14:27.19 | |V\oNK | does anyone have any problems w/ gkrellm(d) |
| 14:27.38 | |V\oNK | ]mine seem to just turn off on the client side.. |
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| 14:27.52 | Eulex | raitchev, apt-get clean |
| 14:28.07 | OUAH | jm_: hu maybe a good idea:p thx |
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| 14:28.18 | Eulex | raitchev, or do you want to remove the actual installed packages? apt-get clean does just remove the archives. |
| 14:28.25 | phaedrus | Eulex: this is what i did http://channels.debian.net/paste/1376 |
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| 14:28.34 | Eulex | phui, are you on a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:28.44 | sandos | I am supposed to use a FQDN for hostname? but doing hostname sandos.ath.cx says "hostname: the specified hostname is invalid" |
| 14:28.44 | phui | Eulex: i believe 2.4 |
| 14:28.58 | phui | the so-called 'stable' from debian.org |
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| 14:29.22 | Eulex | phaedrus, you're on mepis. mepis != debian. please goto #mepis, thanks. |
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| 14:29.44 | phaedrus | oh..no help here for this? |
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| 14:30.16 | Eulex | phaedrus, well, the advice you get in here might or might not work on mepis. we don't know. |
| 14:30.47 | phaedrus | ok...i see |
| 14:31.12 | phaedrus | would you help me with just the "prerequisites" part and ill take my chances... |
| 14:31.20 | phaedrus | its mostly just the lingo |
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| 14:31.48 | Eulex | phui, then you need to install the appropriate alsa modules for your kernel, and then do apt-get install alsa-basa alsa-utils && alsaconf as root. then if you don't get any sound, run alsamixer and ensure that the pcm and master channels aren't muted. |
| 14:32.10 | Eulex | phaedrus, well, it looks good to me so far. btw, what are you trying to compile? |
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| 14:32.25 | phaedrus | i am trying to install ndiswrapper 1.7 |
| 14:32.42 | Fujoor | hey guys, when downloading gaim from apt-get install gaim, i keep getting this really old version which has no msn support, why is that? |
| 14:32.43 | phui | ta... |
| 14:33.11 | Eulex | phaedrus, follow the advice in the install guide, then you should be fine. if you get any more problem, please ask in #mepis. |
| 14:33.19 | phaedrus | yeah |
| 14:33.27 | Eulex | Fujoor, apt-cache policy Fujoor |
| 14:33.30 | Eulex | ? |
| 14:33.37 | phaedrus | its the prerequisites part of the install guide i am having questions about |
| 14:33.42 | Eulex | Fujoor, sorry, /me is confused |
| 14:33.42 | phaedrus | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1377 |
| 14:33.45 | darkness | If i can ping localhost yet have no wan network. Where should i look for problems? |
| 14:33.46 | Fujoor | eulex: hmm, sorry for being a newbee, what does that mean? |
| 14:33.55 | phaedrus | the variables in this past |
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| 14:34.16 | Eulex | Fujoor, I mean 'apt-cache policy gaim' -- it will check available and installed versions of gaim |
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| 14:34.33 | Fujoor | eulex: ah, so i should type apt-cache policy gaim |
| 14:34.45 | Fujoor | eulex: so it kind of updates the list |
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| 14:35.24 | Eulex | Fujoor, no, it reports what versions of gaim are available and what version is installed, if any. |
| 14:35.29 | Fujoor | aha |
| 14:35.43 | Eulex | Fujoor, what version does it claim is installed? |
| 14:35.46 | pandrew | bye |
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| 14:36.05 | Fujoor | doesnt really say, it just says version table: 1:0.58-2.5 0 |
| 14:36.15 | Fujoor | and since version 1,5 is the newest it doesnt really make sence |
| 14:36.29 | Fujoor | maybe its vesrion 0,58? |
| 14:36.36 | Fujoor | that is available |
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| 14:36.49 | phanter | at this moment i use: "//10.0.0.4/aegee/home/patrick/Wolgacifscredentials=/home/patrick/.crdwolga,rw,auto,fuid=patrick,gid=patrick 0 0". This does mount the drive, but does not give me the rights I need. |
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| 14:36.53 | phanter | waht do I do wrong |
| 14:36.58 | Eulex | Fujoor, could you use paster to paste the full output of the command? /msg dpkg paster |
| 14:37.03 | jm_ | it lists the version that's available *in* Debian, not upstream |
| 14:37.19 | ju4n7ux | how i can do it a merge with a partition?? |
| 14:37.33 | phaedrus | thanks for all yer help eulex |
| 14:37.33 | ju4n7ux | i haven't space in /usr partition.. |
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| 14:37.40 | phaedrus | Eulex....good luck |
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| 14:37.46 | Fujoor | msg dpg paster and then cut and paste? |
| 14:37.52 | speedy_sz | What's up Linux maniacs ??? |
| 14:37.53 | Eulex | !paster |
| 14:37.54 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 14:38.11 | Eulex | ju4n7ux, use parted. |
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| 14:38.38 | ju4n7ux | thanks eulex.. |
| 14:38.44 | Fujoor | i cant really paste, because linux is on another computer, and this one that im ircing from has windows |
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| 14:38.55 | Fujoor | im switching between them |
| 14:39.06 | abrotman | Fujoor: you could ssh into your debian box |
| 14:39.11 | abrotman | !putty |
| 14:39.11 | dpkg | putty is, like, a DFSG-free ssh/telnet/rsh client for Windows. It is small, simple, and has no install nonsense. Available at http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/ |
| 14:39.28 | Fujoor | gaim: |
| 14:39.29 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.29 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.29 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.29 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.29 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:39.41 | Fujoor | my bad |
| 14:39.44 | Fujoor | /msg dpkg paster gaim: |
| 14:39.45 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.47 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.49 | jm_ | wtf |
| 14:39.49 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.51 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:39.53 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:39.55 | Fujoor | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:40.07 | dimir | :-) |
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| 14:40.26 | azeem | Fujoor: please use a pastebin |
| 14:40.33 | azeem | do not paste in the chan |
| 14:40.34 | fireba11 | ^^ |
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| 14:40.41 | dimir | Or else! |
| 14:40.45 | phui | alsa modules are obtained from where? |
| 14:40.54 | dimir | kernel! |
| 14:41.02 | jm_ | kernel or Debian mirrors |
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| 14:41.17 | Eulex | phui, your favourite debian mirror |
| 14:41.19 | phui | is it mean tto show up in the Synaptic package system? |
| 14:41.22 | jm_ | as in, 2.6 comes with it, for 2.4 Debian has a package for kernel images |
| 14:41.40 | jm_ | !tell phui -about search |
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| 14:42.24 | darkness | How do you get the setup screen on sarge. The one where you can setup the keyboard, network etc? |
| 14:42.27 | Eulex | Fujoor, well, you're running woody. woody only has 0.58. |
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| 14:43.43 | phanter | at this moment i use: "//10.0.0.4/aegee/home/patrick/Wolgacifscredentials=/home/patrick/.crdwolga,rw,auto,fuid=patrick,gid=patrick 0 0". This does mount the drive, but does not give me the rights I need, what do i need to change |
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| 14:45.32 | caphuso | phanter: are you sure that "fuid" is a valid option? |
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| 14:47.05 | Nazcafan | caphuso why do they ask you nick in the paste url ? |
| 14:47.21 | ellanos | dudes, i tried to upgrade my system from sarge to etch with kernel2.6.8 and now my system is broke, cant finish because of udev (needs kernel 2.6.12) and its imposible to install the new udev nor the kernel needed, im in a big trouble i need to work, suggest something please. |
| 14:47.22 | caphuso | Nazcafan: huh? |
| 14:47.31 | phanter | That was a typing error, but it still does not work! |
| 14:47.47 | Nazcafan | well they ask you the chan & your nick |
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| 14:48.06 | stew_ | ellanos: /msg dpkg udev 2.6.12 |
| 14:48.07 | azeem | Nazcafan: that's optional and for informational purposes |
| 14:48.09 | azeem | I think |
| 14:48.13 | Nazcafan | so I supposed that it would do stg that interacts with dpkg or something |
| 14:48.30 | Nazcafan | like more advance that the pastebin |
| 14:48.35 | Nazcafan | mhhh ok |
| 14:48.40 | caphuso | Nazcafan: no, it would interact with paster |
| 14:48.42 | ellanos | stew_: tnx ill do so |
| 14:48.56 | Roey | Hi. |
| 14:48.58 | caphuso | it would say something like "<nick> posted blah at http://..." |
| 14:48.59 | Roey | I need help with GRUB: right now I only get a boot prompt. I want to get a menu. What must I set in grub to enable this? |
| 14:49.24 | Nazcafan | a menu.lst file ? |
| 14:49.30 | darkness | Anyone know how to change the keyboard mapping? |
| 14:49.39 | caphuso | darkness: /msg dpkg keymap |
| 14:49.55 | phanter | at this moment i use: "//10.0.0.4/aegee/home/patrick/Wolgacifscredentials=/home/patrick/.crdwolga,rw,auto,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0". This does mount the drive, but does not give me the rights I need, what do i need to change |
| 14:50.06 | ellanos | does anyone knows the direct path to the kernel images on the ftp? |
| 14:50.29 | stew | ellanos: http://packaes.debian.org/packagename will get you there |
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| 14:50.46 | ellanos | stew: tnx again dude |
| 14:50.59 | stew | ellanos: you're welcome |
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| 14:51.39 | jsz__ | what do I have to enable to stop getting dosed? syn_cookies? |
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| 14:53.19 | Garda | why is dpkg not talking to me |
| 14:53.25 | Garda | even the bots are snubbing me |
| 14:53.28 | Eulex | !why |
| 14:53.29 | abrotman | dpkg: hi |
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| 14:53.39 | abrotman | dpkg: what are we going to do tonight? |
| 14:53.43 | Eulex | hmm, he seems to be b0rked atm |
| 14:54.16 | Garda | someone fix dpkg |
| 14:54.36 | phui | sweet thanks Eulex and jm... getting the packages now... turned out i had the ftp address wrong for my fav deb site :P |
| 14:54.39 | Maulkin | dpkg was trying to "update my debian files" yesterday I think |
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| 14:54.48 | Garda | i was talking to it then it stopped. i think i broke dpkg. lol sorry |
| 14:54.49 | dpkg | Because! |
| 14:54.51 | dpkg | que tal, abrotman |
| 14:54.53 | dpkg | abrotman: Same thing we do every night. Try to take over the world. |
| 14:54.55 | abrotman | Maulkin: he always says that |
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| 14:56.02 | Eulex | heh, he was just lagging behind a bit... |
| 14:56.20 | Garda | dpkg: hi |
| 14:56.20 | dpkg | hey, garda |
| 14:56.27 | Garda | he's back |
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| 14:56.31 | dfd | hello |
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| 14:56.40 | Garda | i like this |
| 14:56.44 | Garda | dpkg: you suck |
| 14:56.44 | dpkg | Dream on, garda. These lips will never touch your flesh. |
| 14:56.46 | dfd | where does gdm read the desktop system to start? It seems to ignore ~/.xinitrc |
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| 14:57.39 | stew | dfd: .xsession |
| 14:57.50 | dfd | stew, in my home directory? |
| 14:57.59 | stew | dfd: yes |
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| 14:58.10 | dfd | thanks |
| 14:58.11 | stew | dfd: you can even just ln -s .xinitrc .xsession |
| 14:58.11 | dfd | cya |
| 14:58.19 | dfd | yeah right |
| 14:58.21 | Hannibal | okay, I've tried googling for some time now, but I still haven't figured out how I can see if the pcmcia card sockets in my laptop support cardbus |
| 14:58.21 | dfd | that's nice |
| 14:58.22 | dfd | I will |
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| 14:58.59 | dfd | cya |
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| 14:59.05 | stew | Hannibal: how do they show up in lspci? |
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| 14:59.49 | Hannibal | stew: Doh. Cardbus bridge, so I suppose that means yes. Thanks :) |
| 15:01.01 | Hannibal | hrm, then I'm off to find myself a cheap wireless network card, I guess :) |
| 15:01.42 | jsz__ | how do I stop my computer responding to nmaps |
| 15:02.04 | jsz__ | so it just times out or something and doesn't show any ports and services |
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| 15:02.44 | jsz__ | how do I stop my computer responding to nmaps soit just times out or something and doesn't show any ports and services |
| 15:02.53 | jsz__ | oops |
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| 15:03.11 | stew | Hannibal: do yourself a favor and buy one with prism54 (or something with good mainline kernel support) |
| 15:03.35 | Ries | !tell mysqlf |
| 15:03.43 | Hannibal | stem: yeah, I'm reading the pages by Jean tourrhilles (sp?) |
| 15:03.49 | Hannibal | *stew, even. |
| 15:03.56 | Ries | !tell debian |
| 15:04.07 | stew | jsz__: find out what is listening to those ports "/msg dpkg open ports" and stop those processes |
| 15:04.14 | azeem | Ries: please /msg the bot |
| 15:04.29 | Ries | azeem: Ahh...ok |
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| 15:05.04 | Ries | azeem is there any documentation on that? We want something like that for our #typo3 channel |
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| 15:05.42 | stew | Ries: blootbot.sf.net, or apt-get install blootbot and go to /usr/share/doc/blootbot or /msg dpkg help |
| 15:07.13 | _metaperl | I installed libapache-mod-perl under Debian/testing, but I dont know where the httpd.conf is... what apt-cache command shows me this? show and showpkg and dump were of no help |
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| 15:07.58 | Ries | Stef: there site is down, but thanks for the link |
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| 15:08.40 | stew | _metaperl: conf files should generrally be /etc/packagename.* or /etc/packagename/* ; otherwise it should definately be documented in /usr/share/doc/packagename/* |
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| 15:09.35 | stew | Ries: try http://sourceforge.net/projects/blootbot/ |
| 15:09.38 | _metaperl | stew: ok thanks. i looked in /usr/doc not /usr/share/doc ... and yes /etc/apache/httpd.conf is where it was even though locate only turned up the /etc/apache2/httpd.conf...p resumably because I just installed apache |
| 15:10.20 | Eulex | _metaperl, yep, your locate database is not up to date. run updatedb to make it up to date. |
| 15:10.21 | stew | _metaperl: yeah, locate reflects the status as of the last time updatedb was run, which i beileve usually happens at 6am daily |
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| 15:12.22 | nick23 | how do I find out (recursively) which files in a directory are over 4gb? |
| 15:12.36 | caphuso | nick23: find with -size option |
| 15:12.53 | _metaperl | nick23: i would use File::Find.. oh the shell does truly r0x :) |
| 15:12.55 | nick23 | caphuso: thank you |
| 15:13.16 | _metaperl | but can you specify 4gb in human readable form? ah, I should man find if Ireally want to know |
| 15:13.35 | _metaperl | 4*1024*1024*1024*1024 |
| 15:13.38 | _metaperl | maybe that's it |
| 15:13.51 | _metaperl | 4*1024*1024*1024 |
| 15:14.05 | _metaperl | 1024 - k, 1024*1024 = megs, 1024*1024*1024 = gigs |
| 15:14.10 | _metaperl | right? |
| 15:14.41 | azaz_work | I'm having a problem with a raid device. After trying to write some data it will write most of the data then go into r/o mode for the hard disk. The syslog says attempt to access beyond end of device. How is this possible? |
| 15:14.57 | Eulex | nick23, find -size +4G |
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| 15:15.24 | stew | _metaperl: right |
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| 15:15.27 | caphuso | _metaperl: 1000 kilo, 1000*1000 mega, 1000*1000*1000 giga, 1024 kibi, 1024*1024 mebi, 1024*1024*1024 gibi |
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| 15:15.45 | _metaperl | yes, |
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| 15:16.34 | kakarot_ | hi, my bithx is telling that i've fice mails for read, can anybody help me to read these? |
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| 15:17.07 | stew | kakarot_: run a mailreader such as "mail" or even better, install and run mutt |
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| 15:17.25 | kakarot_ | stew thanks |
| 15:17.29 | abrotman | kakarot_: from memoserv? or real emails ? |
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| 15:17.53 | GlenneMannen | how can I use iptables to block all traffic from 192.168.0.2 to www.google.com |
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| 15:18.16 | kakarot_ | abrotman i supposse that they are system mails |
| 15:18.25 | kakarot_ | sorry for my english |
| 15:18.33 | JelliedMisery | abrotman: hi |
| 15:18.35 | pureone | why would you want to block people from using google thats just evil! |
| 15:18.36 | JelliedMisery | abrotman: can you help meeee |
| 15:19.03 | Eulex | !ask |
| 15:19.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 15:19.07 | CongealedHappnes | Eulex: I know. |
| 15:19.22 | fireba11 | GlenneMannen: why the hell do you want to do that ? also, since it's IP tables you need to blook all of gooles IPs |
| 15:19.34 | GlenneMannen | fireba11: just an example |
| 15:19.35 | Eulex | CongealedHappnes, then why are you doing the opposite? |
| 15:19.43 | CongealedHappnes | Eulex: to get attention :( |
| 15:19.53 | fireba11 | GlenneMannen: still .. you can only block IPs not domain names |
| 15:20.02 | CongealedHappnes | Eulex: OK, the issue is I want to put / on lvm+grub |
| 15:20.05 | Eulex | CongealedHappnes, if anybody can help you, they'll give you attention. |
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| 15:20.20 | GlenneMannen | fireba11: ok, what should I do then? |
| 15:20.25 | Roey | Eulex: and I have GRUB all set up nice and ready |
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| 15:20.33 | rvalles | hm, with unstable, which is the tool that comes by default, to set terminal font? |
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| 15:20.42 | savi | hola soy savi..... |
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| 15:20.53 | Eulex | !es |
| 15:20.53 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:20.54 | ju4n7ux | i haven't space in the partition /usr.. but when try remove a package with dpkg.. have a problem with the depends.. some suggestion??? |
| 15:20.57 | rvalles | I'm used to setfont, but this things seems not to have setfont; yet it sets the font somehow @ boot |
| 15:21.18 | Eulex | Roey, sorry, I know nothing about lvm. |
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| 15:21.42 | FlimFlamMan | anyone know of a UML package that does sequence diagrams? |
| 15:21.54 | stew | Roey: if you have a question, ask it |
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| 15:21.58 | Roey | Eulex: alright. Where do I specify that I want / to be on /dev/main/host (main is the volumegroup and host ist the logicalvolume) |
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| 15:22.02 | Stormx2 | Hallo |
| 15:22.06 | Roey | hello |
| 15:22.08 | Roey | is there anybody in there |
| 15:22.45 | Eulex | Roey, I dunno if grub does lvm. |
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| 15:23.08 | Roey | Eulex: it does. |
| 15:23.12 | phui | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device |
| 15:23.15 | rvalles | it was "consolechars" |
| 15:23.17 | phui | that's not good right? |
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| 15:23.25 | NOthsouth | there is any way to know by the Valid IP find out the MAC ip ? |
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| 15:23.44 | darkness | Just tried to change my keyboard settings /msg dpkg keymap doesn't work? |
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| 15:24.06 | Eulex | darkness, define "keyboard settings" |
| 15:24.21 | ju4n7ux | how can give more space a partition?? |
| 15:24.27 | freebse | Nothsouth: just with the IP you will not be able to get a mac adress |
| 15:24.41 | Eulex | ju4n7ux, try parted (as I told you half an hour ago) |
| 15:24.44 | darkness | Eulex: I want to get to the gui which gives you a menu where you can change the network settings keyboard settings etc? |
| 15:24.51 | NOthsouth | freebse, hum.. what I need to know ? |
| 15:24.56 | sep | ju4n7ux, first of all, take backup if the partition contain any vital data |
| 15:25.09 | sep | ju4n7ux, then do as eulex said |
| 15:25.12 | fireba11 | ju4n7ux: also, you sound like your english isn't really good ..try the debian support channel fo your native language |
| 15:25.15 | ju4n7ux | yes eulex.. but for install parted i need space.. and i haven't space.. |
| 15:25.41 | fireba11 | ju4n7ux: then clean up a bit ^^ |
| 15:25.45 | Eulex | darkness, network settings go in /etc/network/interfaces, to change your locale do dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 15:25.54 | freebse | NOthsouth: the mac adress, or a connection to the IP... there are many ways, but with lets say 217.34.23.234 you will not be able to find out my mac-adress |
| 15:26.00 | sep | ju4n7ux, you can move a large directory onto another partition or drive, and mount it , it's usualy not needed to resize partitions |
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| 15:26.31 | Roey | So far the most I have found is http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_Gentoo_on_an_LVM2_root_partition |
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| 15:26.35 | Roey | bvut that is for Gentoo |
| 15:26.36 | Roey | not Debian. |
| 15:27.14 | Eulex | ju4n7ux, apt-get clean will give you a little more space, btw. |
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| 15:27.28 | poopotootti | =) |
| 15:27.31 | cr3 | anyone happen to know of a program to check for mail and that would allow me to echo a message when new mail has arrived? I know about xbiff but I can't echo a message, all I have is that little image :( |
| 15:27.43 | ju4n7ux | thanks eulex.. i try it.. |
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| 15:28.33 | freebse | Roey: apt-get install lvm2 :) |
| 15:28.50 | Roey | did that. |
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| 15:29.04 | Roey | but thanks |
| 15:29.08 | dscener | What's the best binary newsgroup reader for debian? I'm having memory issues with pan :( |
| 15:29.14 | freebse | Roey: it does not boot, right ? |
| 15:29.38 | Roey | freebse: it boots. I just don' tknow how to specify that I want to boot from the LVM on / instead of / being /dev/sda3. |
| 15:30.23 | freebse | Roey: get the device-mapper patch to get it bootable... |
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| 15:30.28 | freebse | just a sec |
| 15:30.54 | Roey | freebse: I have linux-2.6.14.4 with vserver-2.1.0. |
| 15:31.03 | phui | how do i check my kernel version again? :( |
| 15:31.12 | zcram | uname -r |
| 15:31.13 | Eulex | umane -r |
| 15:31.16 | phui | thanks |
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| 15:31.51 | freebse | Roey: I used LILO with device mapper support, but grub should have it as well |
| 15:32.21 | Roey | freebse: ok |
| 15:32.27 | Roey | freebse: btw thanks for your help |
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| 15:32.41 | cr3 | why can't I write to my ntfs partition when I compiled my kernel with ntfs write support? |
| 15:32.55 | dimir | no, there is a much easier way to check it: uname -a | awk '{print $2, $3, $4}' | cut -d' ' -f 2- | sed 's|\(\) .*|\1|' |
| 15:33.17 | Fujoor | if i want to install xfce4, do i need x-window-system aswell? |
| 15:33.25 | Eulex | Fujoor, yes |
| 15:33.37 | Fujoor | eulex: anything else i might need to get it up and running? |
| 15:33.47 | freebse | Roey: sory I can not find a sollution for grub, I could give you a link for lilo |
| 15:33.51 | Fujoor | eulex: it is called xfce4 right? or is it just called xfce? |
| 15:33.54 | rvalles | I need "setfont". Know which package is it? |
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| 15:34.25 | Eulex | Fujoor, I don't think so. xfce4 is called xfce4, xfce is xfce3 |
| 15:34.28 | Roey | freebse: ok, thanks anyway |
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| 15:34.46 | Fujoor | ahaa , so i can download older versions of it too? |
| 15:34.50 | Andy0516 | is there an editor i can use (currently use nano) which will let me goto a line number? |
| 15:34.54 | freebse | Fujor: it is called xffm4 |
| 15:35.11 | freebse | Fujor: at least this is the windows manager used by xfce |
| 15:35.11 | Eulex | freebse, xffm4 is the file manager |
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| 15:35.20 | Eulex | freebse, no |
| 15:35.28 | freebse | Eulex: stop, sorry |
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| 15:35.52 | Eulex | freebse, I think you mean xfwm4 |
| 15:36.10 | freebse | Eulex: exactly, just mixed that up, sorry |
| 15:36.16 | odla | !info abiword testing |
| 15:36.20 | dpkg | abiword: (WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK2), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-2 (etch), Packaged size: 2496 kB, Installed size: 6904 kB |
| 15:36.25 | Eulex | cr3, ntfs write support is limited to just altering small files without changing their lengthes. and it's dangerous. don't use it. |
| 15:36.26 | odla | !info abiword sid |
| 15:36.41 | Eulex | odla, please talk to dpkg in private. |
| 15:36.50 | rvalles | I need "setfont". Know which package is it? |
| 15:36.55 | Eulex | Fujoor, you could install xfce3, but that's not recommended. |
| 15:36.57 | Andy0516 | is there an editor i can use (currently use nano) which will let me goto a line number? |
| 15:36.59 | Eulex | !tell rvalles about search |
| 15:37.08 | cheal | Andy0516: many. kwrite is one |
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| 15:37.21 | Andy0516 | i dont have KDE installed |
| 15:37.30 | freebse | Andy0516: lots of :) vi, emacs f.ex. |
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| 15:37.33 | Fujoor | you are all confusing me, cant i just type apt-get install xfce and get the whole package, file managers everything? |
| 15:37.36 | Fujoor | like xubuntu-desktop |
| 15:37.46 | dpkg | abiword: (WYSIWYG word processor based on GTK2), section editors, is optional. Version: 2.4.1-2.1+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 2497 kB, Installed size: 6856 kB |
| 15:38.02 | cheal | Andy0516: gedit is another |
| 15:38.03 | Andy0516 | how do i goto a line number in VI? |
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| 15:38.29 | Eulex | Fujoor, apt-get install xfce4 x-window-system and you should be good to go |
| 15:38.32 | stew | Andy0516: "123G" would go to line 123 |
| 15:38.34 | freebse | Fujor: the package is called xfce4 so apt-get install xfce4 will do it |
| 15:38.38 | kryl | hi I have some problems to use freenx under debian |
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| 15:39.43 | nick23 | find ./ -size 4G -print does not find files over 4 gigs? |
| 15:39.46 | Fujoor | eulex and freebse: that was what i was looking for, thanks :) |
| 15:40.05 | Fujoor | well see if it works when my debian install is finsihed |
| 15:40.05 | Eulex | kryl, freenx is not part of debian |
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| 15:40.16 | kryl | Oh ok |
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| 15:40.21 | Eulex | nick23, find ./ -size +4G -print |
| 15:40.39 | Eulex | kryl, you'll have to ask the packagers or upstream authors |
| 15:40.55 | kryl | It's a bit difficult but I'll try |
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| 15:41.16 | freebse | Fujor: you need to install some other packages as well to have a nice desktop :) xfdekstop4, xfrce4-systray to start with |
| 15:41.26 | JJK | Hello, can someone tell me how to reconfigure a package? Something with dpkg, isn't it? |
| 15:41.30 | cr3 | Eulex: I've been trying to get captive-ntfs working though, heard any dangerous things about that? |
| 15:41.41 | Fujoor | freebse: so they arent included in the xfce4 package?` |
| 15:41.49 | Fujoor | freebse: i thought you get the whole package |
| 15:41.57 | Eulex | kryl, well, you could ask the question here anyway. someone may know. |
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| 15:42.21 | Eulex | cr3, well, *I* wouldn't use a winblows driver on linux |
| 15:42.28 | Fujoor | freebse: anything, im taking notes :) |
| 15:42.29 | freebse | Fujor: no you don't, all you get is xfce4 defaull with no extras |
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| 15:43.11 | Eulex | Fujoor, the xfce4 depends on the base of xfce4. to get the extras, install them yourself. |
| 15:43.15 | nick23 | Eulex: thank you :) |
| 15:43.20 | freebse | Fujor: it will work, but you don;t have a desktop menu, no weather plugin etc... you can allways install it at any time |
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| 15:43.47 | Eulex | nick23, find ./ -size 4G -print would print all files that are exactly 4 gigs. |
| 15:44.09 | Eulex | freebse, you *do* get a desktop menu. xfdesktop is part of the core. |
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| 15:44.32 | raden | anyone know of a good VOIP service ? |
| 15:45.03 | JJK | Can anyone tell me to reconfigure my network using that dpkg menu's? |
| 15:45.03 | stew | raden: http://voip-info.org |
| 15:45.05 | Andy0516 | whats the crack with webmin? when i install it i get hardly any modules! i hear the package maintainer has given up? |
| 15:45.17 | freebse | Eulex: I just took a look in synaptic, I can not tell which packages will be installed with xfce to start with, could be you have got such a menu, but still lots of things are missing |
| 15:45.36 | sep | Andy0516, install the modules you want, they are packaged separatly |
| 15:45.38 | Eulex | Fujoor, you do get the whole xfce4 package if you install xfce4. but you don't get the extra that aren't part of xfce4 |
| 15:45.40 | stew | Andy0516: apt-cache search webmin |
| 15:45.57 | Eulex | freebse, apt-cache depends xfce4 |
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| 15:46.04 | sep | Andy0516, and dont use webmin in any case it's just too confusing (imho) |
| 15:46.05 | Fujoor | eulex: oh ok, so those arent part of the xfce4, its like external file managers, i get it, thanks |
| 15:46.06 | stew | Andy0516: and yes, last i looked the maintainer is having trouble giving the packages away |
| 15:46.17 | freebse | Eulex: I didn't say that :) |
| 15:46.37 | Eulex | Fujoor, apt-cache depends xfce4 to see what you'll get |
| 15:46.41 | Fujoor | but the extras are stated at the xfce page, right, that way, i can get it as light as possible |
| 15:47.24 | freebse | Fujoor: right, they are also in apt... so no problem to install them later |
| 15:48.07 | Eulex | Fujoor, the goodies aren't available from the xfce4 authors. they are available from xfce-goodies.berlios.de |
| 15:48.23 | Fujoor | lovely, lets hope it works, ill come back when my install is done |
| 15:48.31 | Fujoor | eulex: ill write down the adress |
| 15:48.41 | Fujoor | is the terminal included or do i have to apt-get xfce-terminal as well? |
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| 15:49.15 | Eulex | Fujoor, most stuff from there is available as packages in debian. notably not the taskbar panel plugin. |
| 15:49.16 | kryl | I just launch nxagent ont time with success and after a shutdown of the server when I launch nxagent I have just a black window ... |
| 15:49.23 | freebse | it is not included, there is a package called xfce4-terminal |
| 15:49.31 | Andy0516 | how can i ignore dependacies? :) |
| 15:49.35 | Eulex | Fujoor, there's no terminal included |
| 15:49.40 | Eulex | Andy0516, you don't |
| 15:49.42 | StereoSkit | stew: it workes \o/, i was afraid i had to reinstall the system, but it wasnt necesary, tnxz0r |
| 15:49.43 | stew | kryl: we cannot support commercial, closed source software here, go to http://nomachine.com/support |
| 15:49.49 | StereoSkit | *worked |
| 15:49.53 | Andy0516 | apt-get install webmin* |
| 15:49.59 | CasaNova_ | How do I ask dpkg what current package version is ( cant seem to get syntax correct) |
| 15:50.01 | Andy0516 | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 15:50.01 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.01 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.01 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:50.08 | tarzeau | CasaNova_: dpkg -l pkg |
| 15:50.12 | Fujoor | aah, ok, thanks guys, ill be back in 30,40 min when the install is done if i run into some problems |
| 15:50.18 | CasaNova_ | tarzeau: thanks |
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| 15:50.35 | Andy0516 | :( |
| 15:50.44 | stew | !tell Andy0516 about flood |
| 15:50.49 | Andy0516 | sorry! |
| 15:50.51 | stew | Andy0516: what MTA do you have installed? |
| 15:50.54 | freebse | Fujoor: installing xfce will just need about 1:30 min, depending on your connection :) |
| 15:51.04 | kryl | stew, Uh freenx is not nomachine.com isn't it ? |
| 15:51.04 | CasaNova_ | Ahh but what about versions of testing vs stable? |
| 15:51.14 | Andy0516 | exim4 |
| 15:52.01 | stew | kryl: oh, freenx, i'm not sure |
| 15:52.10 | JJK | Is php5 not available in sarge? And if not, is it safe to get it from backports? |
| 15:52.11 | Fujoor | freebse: yeah, but im still installing debian :) |
| 15:52.18 | Eulex | freebse, he was gonna install an x server too |
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| 15:52.43 | Eulex | CasaNova_, packages.debian.org/pkgname |
| 15:52.59 | cheal | CasaNova_: apt-cache policy foo |
| 15:53.20 | Eulex | cheal, yes, but only if he has apt sources for both testing and unstable |
| 15:53.22 | cheal | CasaNova_: assuming you have sources for those releases |
| 15:53.30 | Fujoor | is xserver the same as x-window-system? |
| 15:53.38 | tarzeau | Fujoor: part of it |
| 15:53.46 | Eulex | Fujoor, no. x-window-system includes an x server |
| 15:53.49 | freebse | Eulex, Fujoor: forget what I said :) |
| 15:53.58 | Fujoor | eulex: ah, you learn something new everyday |
| 15:53.58 | Fujoor | hhe |
| 15:53.59 | stew | kryl: you are using debs from the freenx site? |
| 15:54.29 | cheal | JJK: no. |
| 15:54.35 | cheal | !tell JJK about php5 |
| 15:55.36 | cheal | !tell JJK about dotdeb |
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| 15:55.50 | cheal | !php5 |
| 15:55.50 | dpkg | php5 is, like, ask me about info php5 sid;info php5 testing; if you're looking for php5 packages in unstable or testing. |
| 15:56.04 | Eulex | Fujoor, x-window-system depends on x-window-system-core which depends on xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg if you're on testing or unstable). do apt-cache depends pkgname to display dependencies for a package. |
| 15:56.27 | stew | kryl: it doesn't say what version of debian they are compiled for, it might not be compiled for whatever version of debian you are running, i'd try rebuilding the debs from source |
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| 15:56.34 | cheal | dpkg: no, php5 is in Etch but not in Sarge. For unofficial php5 packages for Sarge, ask me about dotdeb |
| 15:56.34 | dpkg | cheal: okay |
| 15:56.50 | pok | heya, anybody ever experienced a problem where some internet sites loads fine and others don't? i know the sites work because i can access them from my windows box which is on the same network as my debian box, |
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| 15:57.05 | ciruzzoapapa | hi there ... is there a way to normalize mp3s when converting to wav? |
| 15:57.21 | tarzeau | ciruzzoapapa: yes |
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| 15:57.29 | Justin | pok: ecn or mtu problems |
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| 15:57.45 | ciruzzoapapa | tarzeau: how? |
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| 15:58.03 | tarzeau | ciruzzoapapa: apt-cache search normalize |
| 15:58.39 | pok | justin : ok, how can i diagnose & possibly correct those? |
| 15:58.46 | tarzeau | ciruzzoapapa: this one normalize-audio |
| 15:58.54 | drivamgr2006 | Hi all. right, debian is booting and happy, sort of, but I am still totally unable to configure an x server. I now know that (according to the XF86Config file) my video card is unsupported. How do I get a module for it? I need a video driver for an Intel 845GL/Camino |
| 15:59.04 | ciruzzoapapa | tarzeau: thank z |
| 15:59.46 | Justin | pok: /msg dpkg ecn |
| 16:00.06 | cheal | drivamgr2006: you shouldn't need to play with modules. try the vesa driver if you use Sarge |
| 16:00.12 | ciruzzoapapa | tarzeau: do you ave any experience of using mp3gain |
| 16:00.13 | Eulex | !drxx drivamgr2006 |
| 16:00.13 | ciruzzoapapa | ? |
| 16:00.14 | dpkg | drivamgr2006: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:00.34 | tarzeau | ciruzzoapapa: nop |
| 16:00.39 | ciruzzoapapa | tarzeau: ok |
| 16:00.41 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, maybe the i810 driver will do it. otherwise try vesa, as cheal said. |
| 16:00.53 | ciruzzoapapa | I'll stick with normalize-audio |
| 16:00.54 | drivamgr2006 | ok, tried the vesa driver, it doesnt work. i810 doesnt either. |
| 16:01.18 | drivamgr2006 | same error both times: Cannot connect to server 104 - conection reset by peer. |
| 16:01.21 | stew | drivamgr2006: the vesa driver should always work |
| 16:01.37 | cheal | drivamgr2006/Eulex: if you say so. i810 is supposed to support 845G, but 845GL isn't mentionned |
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| 16:01.52 | stew | drivamgr2006: wait what are you doing when you get "Connot connect to server"? |
| 16:01.54 | dscener | Is there an easy way to remove all packages that you don't need anymore? I can't think of a way it's possible, but |
| 16:01.58 | drivamgr2006 | startx |
| 16:02.02 | Eulex | cheal, I said maybe. I have no experience of it myself. |
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| 16:02.08 | tarzeau | dscener: check this |
| 16:02.09 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:02.09 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 16:02.11 | stew | dscener: /msg dpkg deborphan ; /msg dpkg debfoster |
| 16:02.29 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, have you got an X server? |
| 16:02.54 | drivamgr2006 | yes - i checked. i am using xfree86 |
| 16:03.11 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, apt-cache policy xserver-xfree86 -- is it installed? |
| 16:03.19 | drivamgr2006 | being new to debian, and english not being my first language, this is complicated |
| 16:03.36 | drivamgr2006 | I dont know... I have to switch distros to be able to talk with you in here. |
| 16:04.17 | cheal | Eulex: sorry, the "if you say so" was for vesa not working according to drivamgr2006 |
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| 16:04.42 | Supaplex | for the postrotate/endscript directives in logrotate.d configuration files, do I have to use a shell script, or can I run more then one thing here? |
| 16:04.56 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, well, you need to have access to the debian box while you're talking to us on irc, if you want to be able to get more than general tips. |
| 16:05.15 | dscener | stew: thnx |
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| 16:05.19 | bbrazil | Supaplex: you can do more than one thing |
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| 16:05.29 | drivamgr2006 | this is the debian box eulex. I dual boot with mandriva |
| 16:05.30 | cheal | drivamgr2006: don't worry, I didn't even realize you weren't a native english speaker yet. note, I'm not one neither :) |
| 16:05.36 | Kerr | hmm, flatmate just bought a m$ 'comfort optical mouse 3000' .. 's usb. Can i expect to find any trouble installing it, or will it be a plug in, xf86config, worketh, kinda thing? |
| 16:05.39 | Supaplex | each on a seperate line, or do I need semicolons to? |
| 16:06.00 | drivamgr2006 | no prob cheal. I am from Reykjavik, only been learning english 3 years |
| 16:06.13 | cheal | drivamgr2006: hum...India? |
| 16:06.19 | drivamgr2006 | Iceland |
| 16:06.20 | Eulex | cheal, Iceland |
| 16:06.31 | cheal | drivamgr2006: did you consider using a console IRC client? |
| 16:06.33 | freebse | this is Europe :) India LOL |
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| 16:06.43 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, well, you understand what I mean. you'll have to have debian booted on the box. are you having trouble setting up a wireless nic or something? |
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| 16:07.22 | drivamgr2006 | I am tring to get my debian UI working Eulex. The system will not start my x server |
| 16:07.27 | cheal | drivamgr2006: hehe, that's less exotic :) |
| 16:07.48 | drivamgr2006 | Less Exotic maybe, but extremely cold when it wants to be! |
| 16:07.49 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, then use pork or irssi to connect to irc. |
| 16:07.59 | drivamgr2006 | phone brb |
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| 16:08.21 | Supaplex | pork just sounds like bloatware waiting to happen. :P |
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| 16:08.51 | Eulex | Supaplex, eh? it's a small console aim and irc client. |
| 16:09.03 | Supaplex | yea, but the name. hehe |
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| 16:09.33 | freebse | drivamgr2006: 24hours darkness :) right now... but wait you will have 24h daylight soon :) |
| 16:09.38 | cheal | bloatware typically has long name, no? like emacs...pork is only 4 letters long |
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| 16:10.09 | Eulex | Supaplex, yeah, I was running it for about a year some time ago. most people that ctcp version'ed me got a laugh. |
| 16:10.21 | Supaplex | hehe |
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| 16:10.50 | Supaplex | cheal: by that same argument mIRC is less bloated then irssi |
| 16:11.02 | KiaN | does anybody use backuppc and know how to make it send a report email EVEN if the backup succeeded ? |
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| 16:11.44 | nkuttler | KiaN: yes. no. |
| 16:11.52 | KiaN | lol thanks :) |
| 16:12.00 | zcram | Supaplex: you are wrong. UpperCase letters in software mean more bloatedness. |
| 16:12.06 | KiaN | i'd like to have nightly email reports |
| 16:12.09 | nkuttler | KiaN: isn't there #backuppc? |
| 16:12.21 | KiaN | no, i tried it ;) |
| 16:12.21 | cheal | zcram: I was considering replying that :) |
| 16:12.28 | encryptedX | hi, am usin debian sarge, and need to install a good mail server + webmail program, any tips? |
| 16:12.38 | KiaN | and backuppc's website has no forum |
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| 16:12.46 | drivamgr2006 | does irssi have a man page, and how do i install it? |
| 16:13.00 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, apt-get install irssi-text |
| 16:13.01 | sifi | drivamgr2006, apt-get install irssi-text |
| 16:13.06 | KiaN | encryptedX: webmail -> Horde |
| 16:13.10 | sifi | Eulex, =) |
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| 16:13.23 | zcram | drivamgr2006: #irssi |
| 16:13.23 | fuzza | hi all |
| 16:14.01 | sifi | fuzza, hellooooooooo |
| 16:14.06 | pok | ok, anybody know why i sometimes can connect to some internet sites but not others? have set the ECN , any suggestion as to what to do with the MTU? |
| 16:14.07 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, then do /help connect inside it to get info on how to connect. |
| 16:14.17 | drivamgr2006 | thats great - thanks all - gonna boot back to debian and get in to talk from debian. bbfn |
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| 16:14.54 | Eulex | "bbfn"? |
| 16:15.01 | stew | bye bye for now |
| 16:15.07 | Eulex | ah |
| 16:15.14 | Eulex | never heard it before |
| 16:15.15 | stew | pok: how are you connected to the internet? |
| 16:15.20 | sifi | bbfncuiaw |
| 16:15.28 | pok | stew: through my windows box on the same network |
| 16:15.36 | Eulex | omgwtfbbq |
| 16:15.50 | pok | stew: some sites work fine, like google, hotmail, etc |
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| 16:15.50 | sifi | hehe |
| 16:15.50 | stew | pok: and how is the windows box connected to the internet? |
| 16:16.00 | stew | pok: what makes you think you have an MTU issue |
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| 16:16.30 | stew | pok: i you are connected via the winodws box and the windows box has its mta correct then it shouldn't matter what your mtu is as long as you can talk to the windows box |
| 16:16.32 | pok | stew : windows box is connected to a hub, router is connected to the hub |
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| 16:16.59 | pok | stew : somebody suggested (can't remember who because my irc got closed) that it might be ECN or MTU issue |
| 16:18.00 | stew | pok: i would guess its more likely to be dns issues, have you tried to determin if that is the case? |
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| 16:18.54 | pok | stew : yea, i thought that would be a more likely issue as well to be honest. thou the ECN issue as described by dpkg does make sense. i have checked that the nameservers are spesified in resolv.conf |
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| 16:19.29 | pok | stew : and i can ping both nameservers just fine |
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| 16:20.27 | stew | pok: can you resolve the non-working hostnames from the command line? |
| 16:20.52 | stew | pok: you obviously can contact nameserver or else no websites would be working |
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| 16:21.33 | pok | stew : resolve them how? ping, traceroute, any? |
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| 16:22.20 | stew | pok: "host www.foo.com" but ping is also a good test |
| 16:22.22 | drivamgr2006 | yahoo! |
| 16:22.32 | drivamgr2006 | I made it into here from irssi |
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| 16:22.46 | bibe | !beer drivamgr2006 |
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| 16:23.14 | stew | that's some good beer |
| 16:23.17 | drivamgr2006 | Hello Hawkwind! |
| 16:23.29 | pok | stew : gives me 'unknown host' |
| 16:23.30 | drivamgr2006 | You get some places dont ya? |
| 16:23.31 | Hawkwind | drivamgr2006: Mornin sir |
| 16:23.43 | Hawkwind | drivamgr2006: I run Debian, tis why I'm here :) |
| 16:23.44 | stew | pok: then it is a dns issue |
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| 16:23.59 | drivamgr2006 | Well you might be able to help me sort my new install out then |
| 16:24.18 | Hawkwind | drivamgr2006: I'm just learning myself, and it's on my laptop |
| 16:24.22 | drivamgr2006 | Hav tried 3 different modules for my xserver, none of them support it |
| 16:24.24 | Hawkwind | drivamgr2006: Stable, testing or unstable ? |
| 16:24.30 | drivamgr2006 | Stable |
| 16:24.35 | drivamgr2006 | Debian Sarge |
| 16:24.44 | Hawkwind | Take the plunge man, run unstable |
| 16:24.47 | Hawkwind | Heh |
| 16:24.54 | daReaper | can anyone help me with crontab? i don't get it at all... I want to run a program once every minute, so i added the line "* * * * * www-data /var/tvr2/visitors.pl" to /etc/crontab, but absolutely nothing happens and i'm confused now... |
| 16:24.59 | drivamgr2006 | myxzpytlk! |
| 16:24.59 | pok | stew : ok, i have the name servers in resolv.conf and also have 'search localnetwork' in there , thats it |
| 16:25.14 | abrotman | Hawkwind: don't tell people that |
| 16:25.18 | stew | pok: can you give me an example of a host that doesn't resolve? |
| 16:25.26 | Hawkwind | abrotman: He's a friend of mine :) |
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| 16:25.36 | pok | stew : http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com |
| 16:25.39 | abrotman | Hawkwind: so you're going to go to his house and pick up the pieces ? |
| 16:25.46 | drivamgr2006 | He's fine abrotman... We been yacking for almost 2 years now |
| 16:25.51 | Hawkwind | abrotman: Heh, very doubtful |
| 16:25.56 | drivamgr2006 | Don't worry... |
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| 16:26.35 | stew | pok: that resolves fine or me, and http://dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=tekkenzaibatsu.com says that their dns is setup correctly which makes me believe that the problem is with the dns servers you are querying |
| 16:26.50 | pok | stew : i just loaded that site from my windows box |
| 16:27.01 | pok | stew : so it must be an issue local to the debian box |
| 16:27.05 | stew | pok: your windows box may have the dns cached |
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| 16:27.25 | bbrazil | daReaper: the line looks fine, check /var/log/syslog |
| 16:27.26 | pok | stew : ok, let me clear the dns cache on the windows box |
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| 16:27.33 | stew | pok: what about trying "nslookup www.tekkenzaibatsu.com 1.2.3.4" where 1.2.3.4 is one of the dns servers you are querying? |
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| 16:27.37 | drivamgr2006 | Anyhow, now I am here, I can diagnose from inside debian rather than distro switching. Recap: Tried 3 modules for x server, i810, VESA and VGA, have an intel 845GL/Camino chipset, cant start an x server at all. |
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| 16:27.51 | drivamgr2006 | permenantly stuck in Runlevel2 |
| 16:27.59 | daReaper | bbrazil: it says: |
| 16:28.00 | daReaper | Dec 22 17:33:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[12362]: (www-data) CMD (/var/tvr2/visitors.pl) |
| 16:28.04 | daReaper | Dec 22 17:33:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[12363]: (root) CMD (www-data /var/tvr2/visitors.pl) |
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| 16:28.19 | stew | drivamgr2006: tell us what error you get when you try to start the X server |
| 16:28.58 | drivamgr2006 | Hold on stew I will copy it in and paste it if its not too long |
| 16:29.00 | bbrazil | daReaper: first looks fine, second looks as though you tried to add a /etc/crontab fomratted line to root's personal crontab (crontab -e) |
| 16:29.12 | pok | stew : loads fine after i flushed the cache |
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| 16:29.15 | stew | drivamgr2006: don't paste here |
| 16:29.18 | stew | drivamgr2006: /msg dpkg paster |
| 16:29.39 | stew | pok: use "nslookup www.foo.com 1.2.3.4" on both debian and windows |
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| 16:29.55 | bbrazil | daReaper: I'd suggest running: su -s/bin/bash -c '/var/tvr2/visitors.pl' www-data |
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| 16:30.36 | drivamgr2006 | NO need to paste anyhow - it says "failed to load module i845 (Does not exist,0)" : No drivers available |
| 16:30.42 | daReaper | bbrazil: i got rid of that wrong one... |
| 16:30.43 | drivamgr2006 | sorry bout the double caps |
| 16:30.50 | daReaper | accidentially created a user cron |
| 16:31.06 | stew | drivamgr2006: you have tried i810? and vesa? |
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| 16:31.09 | daReaper | so now the log says: Dec 22 17:36:01 localhost /USR/SBIN/CRON[12631]: (www-data) CMD (/var/tvr2/visitors.pl) |
| 16:31.23 | daReaper | however: the file that should be updated by executing that file doesn't get updated... |
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| 16:31.37 | drivamgr2006 | yes stew - i810 and vesa both say "Screens found, but none have a useable configuration" |
| 16:32.01 | drivamgr2006 | [EE] |
| 16:32.07 | pok | stew : http://pastebin.com/475222 |
| 16:32.12 | bbrazil | daReaper: did you try the 'su' command I gave you above? |
| 16:32.28 | daReaper | bbrazil: in that file, or in console? |
| 16:32.59 | daReaper | bbrazil: if i paste that into console, all works fine |
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| 16:33.45 | bbrazil | daReaper: thats quite odd, I'd suggest adding debugging code to the script |
| 16:33.58 | daReaper | bbrazil: where should I have it put that? ... |
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| 16:34.16 | bbrazil | daReaper: possibly you're relying on PATH or cwd |
| 16:34.18 | stew | pok: no, fi 196.43.1.13 is your nameserver i want you to run "nslookup www.foo.com 196.43.1.13" where www.foo.com is the website you are having trouble with |
| 16:34.25 | drivamgr2006 | Do you have anyway of getting a different x server? I prefer xorg to xfree 86 if possible. |
| 16:34.25 | bbrazil | daReaper: in the .pl |
| 16:34.28 | keck0f | could you give me a hint how to install "log_daemon_msg". I could not find it via http://packages.debian.org |
| 16:34.34 | Jazon | i can't seem to figure out how to install 'Jools' --- i am pulling my hair out! http://www.eecs.umich.edu/~pelzlpj/jools/ |
| 16:34.38 | pok | stew: ahh ok |
| 16:34.43 | Jazon | can someone offer some advice?? |
| 16:35.03 | daReaper | bbrazil: hm, didn't think of that :o |
| 16:35.14 | abrotman | !xorg sarge |
| 16:35.14 | dpkg | somebody said xorg sarge was [1] add these to sources.list without quotes: "deb http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" "deb-src http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ sarge main" [2] run the following command: apt-get update && apt-get install xserver-xorg [3] restart X |
| 16:35.24 | abrotman | drivamgr2006: beware the pieces :) |
| 16:35.42 | stew | drivamgr2006: /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx ; use the i810 driver and make sure you are specifying the refresh rates and resolutions that are appropriate for your monitor and try again, if it doesn't work read /var/log/Xfree86.0.log and see why the modes are being thrown out |
| 16:35.45 | abrotman | drivamgr2006: or check backports.org ... |
| 16:36.12 | Jazon | how do i install a .deb ???? |
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| 16:36.26 | keck0f | Jazon: dpkg -i packagename.deb |
| 16:36.27 | Kvant | Jazon, dpkg -i filename.deb |
| 16:36.33 | psycose | Jazon, $ man dpkg |
| 16:36.51 | Jazon | ahhhhhhh...ok.... thanks! |
| 16:37.01 | pok | stew : http://pastebin.com/475232 |
| 16:37.08 | drivamgr2006 | Act 4 |
| 16:37.09 | stew | drivamgr2006: i wouldn't recommend switching from xfree to xorg, since xorg isn't supporte don sarge and you will be using the same exact driver anyway |
| 16:37.39 | Jazon | what do i do when i get dependancy errors? |
| 16:37.51 | drivamgr2006 | How do I read messages in irssi? I typed msg dpkg xmd5 but cant read the response |
| 16:37.51 | Jazon | can this be addressed automatically some how? |
| 16:37.54 | stew | pok: don't put the http:// in the command line, just start with www. |
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| 16:38.32 | stew | drivamgr2006: alt-4 (alt-# gets you to a specific window), ctrl-n, ctrl-p cycles through windows |
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| 16:38.54 | pok | stew : same result for both, with or without the http:// |
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| 16:40.52 | stew | pok: the windows output should have been much different. if the linux output says "*** Can't find www.tekkenzaibatsu.com: No answer", it means that 196.43.1.13 is not able to resolve that address (which it should be able to) |
| 16:41.47 | Jazon | the problem i am having is that the dpeendancy, pygame (>= 1.4) has been replaced by something else, so i can't apt-get it either.... |
| 16:41.49 | pok | stew : doubt that, if there is a problem with the dns, why can the windows box resolve it? |
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| 16:42.04 | Jazon | when i ignore the dependency thing, it won't work |
| 16:42.26 | Jazon | should i use the tar.gz? |
| 16:42.29 | Eulex | Jazon, what exact error do you get? and are you on stable, testing or unstable? |
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| 16:42.40 | daReaper | bbrazil: ok, i got a little farther now... the file is indeed running, but: in the script i try to write a file, but i get the error: permission denied... The file is chmodded 777, though; any ideas? |
| 16:42.46 | drivamgr2006 | ok i am getting somewhere now. I have done dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86, but hit a snag. Its asking me to enter my video card's bus identifier. How the myxzpytlk am i sposed to know that??? :) |
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| 16:42.59 | CasaNova_ | I'm trying to determine if I have DOS peers -- where can I find a tutorial for netstat or what gui netstat clients are there that allow me to disable accepting from certain locations or IP rnges etc... |
| 16:43.01 | Jazon | Eulex: where do i paste? |
| 16:43.03 | keck0f | what packages contains file "log_daemon_msg" (/etc/init.d/squid uses command "log_daemon_msg" but i could not find a package that contains the file), could you help? |
| 16:43.06 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, just press enter |
| 16:43.08 | Eulex | !paster |
| 16:43.09 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 16:43.18 | drivamgr2006 | ok Eulex - thanks |
| 16:43.39 | Eulex | !tell keck0f about search |
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| 16:44.26 | daReaper | bbrazil: crap.. never mind, stupid mistake |
| 16:44.32 | daReaper | bbrazil: thanks for your help! |
| 16:44.37 | Jazon | Eulex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1380 |
| 16:45.07 | stew | pok: is that one nameserver the only means that windows has to resolve that hostname? what about wins? is that the only nameserver you have available, try giving your linux box a different nameserver. if that dns server was functioning it really should be able to resolve that name when you query it with nslookup |
| 16:45.23 | Jazon | Eulex: does this provide youwith the info you wanted? |
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| 16:46.26 | Eulex | Jazon, well, you're on unstable. which explains the problem. |
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| 16:46.56 | Jazon | ok. hmmm. what does that mean? lol ---->(noob alert!) |
| 16:47.09 | Eulex | Jazon, checked the bts? |
| 16:47.16 | LoneWlf | Anyone know a way to restore default file permissions for the base system files on Debian 3.1? |
| 16:47.22 | Jazon | bts? |
| 16:47.28 | Eulex | !btssmite Jazon |
| 16:47.41 | drivamgr2006 | Yay. I hope... dpkg-reconfigure has done the necessary doohickey for me and I am set up with a vesa driver. Now to see whether it loads up |
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| 16:48.04 | streuner | LoneWlf: restore from backup? |
| 16:48.05 | Eulex | Jazon, anything may break anytime. that's why it's called unstable. you need extensive knowledge of the debian package management system to use it. |
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| 16:48.50 | Jazon | lol... is this a result of running Kanotix 2005-04 RC20? |
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| 16:49.12 | harleyg | i know this is unrelated, but does anyone know how to change the keymap in windows from us to gb? |
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| 16:49.52 | Eulex | Jazon, ah. well, kanotix != debian. and you seem to try to mix them both. which will give problems no matter what |
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| 16:50.02 | stew | harleyg: you have got to be kidding |
| 16:50.10 | keck0f | eulex: how can i find out what package contains file "log_daemon_msg"? via "apt-cache search ..."? |
| 16:50.11 | harleyg | yeh i nknow :) but im not |
| 16:50.21 | Eulex | keck0f, use apt-file |
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| 16:50.30 | stew | harleyg: /msg chanserv list #*win* |
| 16:50.30 | silvinho | keckof: dpkg -S or dlocate as well |
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| 16:50.36 | harleyg | lol ok |
| 16:50.37 | Eulex | Jazon, btw, what does apt-cache policy libc6 output? |
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| 16:50.49 | Jazon | Eulex: I don't understand.... is there a 'Pure' Debian? |
| 16:50.51 | NOthsouth | hello, how can i start vino by terminal ? |
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| 16:51.16 | Eulex | Jazon, yes. and it's the one and only. kanotix != debian. |
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| 16:51.47 | Eclipser | !based on debian |
| 16:51.47 | dpkg | Knoppix, Libranet, Corel/Xandros, Stormix, Progeny, Linspire, DamnSmallLinux, Ubuntu, Kurumin, Agnula, Xebian, and so on are *not* Debian. Just because something's "based on" Debian doesn't mean we can support it. You'll maybe get a Debian answer, and if it doesn't work, you're out of luck. Your best option is to join the channel for your distro. |
| 16:52.04 | Eulex | roflmao & kanotix.com!! "Kanotix ist ein solides Linux basierend auf Debian-SID" |
| 16:52.23 | Eulex | 1. It's Sid, not SID. |
| 16:52.25 | Jazon | Eulex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1381 |
| 16:52.30 | Eulex | 2. Sid is not solid |
| 16:52.37 | cheal | 3. Sid is Sid |
| 16:52.41 | Eclipser | yeah, SID is a sound chip :p |
| 16:53.06 | drivamgr2006 | ok, simple answer is no. I still do not have an x server. |
| 16:53.08 | pok | stew : phoned my isp, and they gave me another 2 dns servers i could try. the 2nd one they gave me actually nslookups to www.tekkenzaibatsu.com just fine. i changed my /etc/resolv.conf to reflect the name change, and ran /etc/init.d/networking restart but my browser still fails to connect, any ideas? |
| 16:53.30 | drivamgr2006 | I am getting the same error even after using dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:53.31 | Supaplex | Sid and S.I.D.S. have some things in common. |
| 16:53.36 | stew | pok: try restarting the browser, make sure the bad nameserver is not in resolv.conf |
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| 16:53.49 | Eclipser | Supaplex, letters in name? |
| 16:53.53 | Jazon | well Kanotix is the only distro i could find that worked for my box (HP m1080n MCE) |
| 16:54.13 | stew | Jazon: if you are having trouble installing debian on your machine, we could help you with that |
| 16:54.15 | Eulex | Jazon, well, for this you'll have to ask the kanotix guys. even if you had been running debian unstable, there's no support for it. you're on your own if you run it. |
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| 16:55.01 | Jazon | ok, fair enough..... thanks anyways.... (Kano doesn't want to try it... looks like i am on my own lol ) |
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| 16:55.46 | keck0f | Eulex: thank you, seems that my apt/sources are missing some packages. "apt-file search log_message_msg" gives no output. |
| 16:56.08 | Eulex | keck0f, neither does it here. |
| 16:56.12 | pok | stew : :) works thanks. just one question, why did i have to change the order of my nameservers for it work? shouldn't it automatically skip to the 2nd name server if the name can't be resolved? |
| 16:56.13 | Borszczuk | hi |
| 16:56.36 | keck0f | Eulex: the file i look for is called "log_daemon_msg". (misstyped) |
| 16:56.50 | Borszczuk | I got lot of "*** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (out)" errors from various apps since last update. Anyone knows how to get rid of this? |
| 16:57.24 | keck0f | log_daemon_msg is used in many scripts, e.g. /etc/init.d/squid, /etc/init.d/gdm, ... |
| 16:57.47 | cheal | Borszczuk: which update? |
| 16:57.48 | stew | pok: the first one worked. it gave you an answer (it was the wrong answer but libc doesn't know the difference) |
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| 16:58.08 | Eulex | keck0f, not present here and not available in the archive. |
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| 16:58.39 | pok | stew : theres no way to check the answer, then go onto the second if the 1st one didn't give you the spesified answer? |
| 16:58.45 | Borszczuk | cheal: I run unstable |
| 16:58.55 | pok | stew : does resolvconf package not 'fix' this? |
| 16:58.57 | Eulex | Borszczuk, checked the bts? |
| 16:59.03 | cheal | Borszczuk: shrug |
| 16:59.38 | keck0f | Eulex: that's really strange... |
| 16:59.42 | stew | pok: no, there is nothing to be fixed. its working correctly, it goes down the list until it gets an answer, in your case the first server gave you an answer so it didn't ask the second |
| 16:59.42 | drivamgr2006 | Does anyone know if my Chipset will work with an alternative driver, such as nv or i740? |
| 16:59.46 | Borszczuk | Eulex: tried, but no luck. my fault probably as I doubt I'm the only one (google reveals ppl having same problems on other distros) |
| 16:59.57 | Eulex | keck0f, you running debian? |
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| 17:00.08 | cheal | drivamgr2006: which chipset? |
| 17:00.08 | keck0f | Eulex: sid-amd64 |
| 17:00.25 | drivamgr2006 | Intel 845GL Camino cheal |
| 17:00.32 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, it certainly won't work with nv. try vesa. it should always work. |
| 17:00.41 | Eulex | keck0f, heh, ok. |
| 17:00.43 | stew | pok: if it had querried both servers it would have gotten 2 different answers, what would you expect it to do with 2 completely different answers? |
| 17:00.51 | cheal | drivamgr2006: why would nv work on that? try i810 or vesa |
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| 17:01.10 | drivamgr2006 | thats the prob Eulex, have tried twice now with vesa and now get the message module does not exist,0 |
| 17:01.18 | pok | stew : no, but i would expect it that if it gave me an answer, as in 'cannot be resolved' that it would try the second one listed |
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| 17:01.40 | stew | pok: cannot be resolved is a valid answer however |
| 17:01.45 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, hmm |
| 17:02.03 | stew | drivamgr2006: what is the exact error message "module vesa does not exist"? |
| 17:02.15 | pok | stew : fair enough, but can't see how hard it would be to code in if ( cannot be resolved ) try second name server; |
| 17:02.16 | stew | drivamgr2006: or is it still "module i845 does not exist"? |
| 17:02.23 | Eulex | keck0f, hmm, log_daemon_msg *is* used in my init scripts in /etc/init.d... still I don't have that command |
| 17:02.43 | stew | pok: it would be easy and possibly wasteful and incorrect, the better solution is to not use broken nameservers |
| 17:02.56 | keck0f | Eulex: so, it can be a macro or some bash-internal-command? |
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| 17:03.03 | pok | stew : lol, out of my control whether they are broken or not |
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| 17:03.14 | drivamgr2006 | yes stew - it starts [EE] Failed to load Module "vesa" (Does not exist, 0) |
| 17:03.18 | Eulex | keck0f, probably not bash-internal. but maybe macro. |
| 17:03.41 | pok | stew : out of intrest how can it be 'incorrect'? |
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| 17:04.32 | berkes | good evening people. |
| 17:04.44 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, is your x server correctly installed? is vesa_drv.o present in /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/drivers/? |
| 17:05.01 | drivamgr2006 | hold on i will check |
| 17:05.08 | Eulex | keck0f, I'll do a recursive grep of my hd... |
| 17:05.09 | berkes | I am scripting some CMS installation scripts, but i am wondering what the devian way of dealing with crontab is, in this. |
| 17:05.15 | berkes | what i need is the following: |
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| 17:05.19 | keck0f | Eulex: thank you for your help |
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| 17:06.02 | drivamgr2006 | yes it is Eulex... |
| 17:06.08 | berkes | a user (can be any user) will run a bash script. that script should add somethin to the crontab. |
| 17:06.13 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, hmm |
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| 17:06.47 | berkes | I prefer not to insert that to the root crontab, for I want this script to be ran without root privileges |
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| 17:07.13 | drivamgr2006 | tell me something... i have a module for my chipset in my other distro. if i transfer it into this one, would it work? |
| 17:07.35 | berkes | should I add this to the crontab of the use which runs the script? Or does debian have special users or methods for this? |
| 17:07.38 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, most likely not. |
| 17:07.38 | nena21 | ai algun español |
| 17:07.43 | intx | where can I find documentation on how I could seperate certain daemon messages from syslog into their own log? |
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| 17:08.15 | Eulex | nena21, sÃ, pero la lengua de #debian es inglés. por favor usen #debian-es. |
| 17:08.41 | intx | or maybe, how do I seperate dhcpd to report to it's own log file, rather than syslog? |
| 17:08.43 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, though you could check what driver your other distro uses. |
| 17:08.45 | stew | pok: although it might be out of your control whether or not they are broken, its in your control whether or not you use them |
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| 17:09.09 | drivamgr2006 | i know what other distro uses. it has a specific driver called i845 |
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| 17:09.46 | cahoot | intx: checkedthe config file for dhcpd? |
| 17:09.50 | stew | pok: its incorrect to say, "when you get a negative and positive response always use the positive response" in the case where a DNS admin removes an entry for a hostname, and some nameserver is caching that entry even though it should have timed out (which many isp's nameservers do), in that case the negative answer is the correct one |
| 17:10.01 | sohmestra | where does gnome store per user gconf data? |
| 17:10.06 | Eulex | keck0f, /usr/share/doc/lsb-base/README.Debian may be interesting. I gotta go now, brb |
| 17:10.08 | dscener | Anyone know if nget stores hearders on my machine? I'd hate to have to download them all over |
| 17:10.18 | Eulex | sohmestra, checked your dot-files? |
| 17:10.23 | berkes | okay, then, i think i will go for a crontab entry in that users crontab. but.... |
| 17:10.41 | berkes | how do I do that? does crontab take any arguments from stdin? |
| 17:10.47 | sohmestra | Eulex: checked .gnome2 & .gnome2_private |
| 17:11.10 | sohmestra | err..yeah. i see what you mean, thanks |
| 17:11.14 | keck0f | Eulex: thanks a lot. cu. |
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| 17:11.47 | pok | stew : good. thanks for the enlightenment :) |
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| 17:13.29 | FourierSeries | !portmap |
| 17:13.29 | dpkg | [portmap] for sun RPC based services (like NFS and NIS). To disable it, simply remove the "portmap" package. |
| 17:13.39 | drivamgr2006 | i am gonna boot over into mdv for a while and take a look at the drivers over there. back in a while |
| 17:14.05 | FourierSeries | hm. |
| 17:14.05 | darkness | can you use dselect or /msg dpkg to reconfigure the network config? |
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| 17:15.37 | botsy | by default squid block .pdf or other files ? |
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| 17:18.04 | FourierSeries | Ok, now *that* did take care of portmap ... |
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| 17:20.50 | [101] | in /etc/network/options if I set syncookies=yes does that mean it's stoping dos? |
| 17:20.53 | [101] | or =no ? |
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| 17:24.35 | Zap-W | how to tell bzip2 to only uncompress a specific directory from an archive |
| 17:24.41 | stew | [101]: you cannot stop a DOS from the server that is being DOSed |
| 17:25.00 | darkness | If you use ethernet for a network connection and you know that debian recognises your nic card and the driver is installed. Now if you've reconfigured ifconfig to 192.168.0.1 and you've also config'd etc/network interfaces. What else would you check? |
| 17:25.07 | stew | Zap-W: bzip2 doesn't zip directories, only files |
| 17:25.15 | stew | Zap-W: is it a tar.bz2? |
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| 17:25.39 | drivamgr2006 | Ok, now I am confused |
| 17:25.39 | andrownz | anyone has got ati tv out working with radeon kernel driver? |
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| 17:26.16 | drivamgr2006 | I just looked at my x config in mdv, and there's a coupla things in there, which I think I should be adding to my current Xconfig in debian. |
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| 17:26.52 | neuwald | hi folks |
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| 17:26.52 | stew | drivamgr2006: if you have a working config from another distribution you can just use that config |
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| 17:27.00 | drivamgr2006 | Option="DPMS" , also it IS using i810 to drive the card. |
| 17:27.05 | neuwald | I'm having trouble to install debian on a HP pavillion dv1000 notebook |
| 17:27.14 | neuwald | does anybody uses debian on that notebook? |
| 17:27.26 | stew | drivamgr2006: DPMS is for powersaving |
| 17:27.38 | drivamgr2006 | Display Power Management Support |
| 17:27.46 | stew | neuwald: /msg dpkg laptops |
| 17:27.50 | sancho___ | i'm digging around in the Debian Reference chapter 7 for info on the Kernel - we have a new Sarge installation and are interested in bumping up to a 2.6 kernel; what's considered best practice for this under Debian? |
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| 17:28.07 | stew | sancho___: what cpu do you have? |
| 17:28.10 | jinglemouse | New to debian linux! how can one replace the kernel? |
| 17:28.16 | neuwald | stew thank u |
| 17:28.20 | stew | jinglemouse: what cpu do you have? |
| 17:28.21 | drivamgr2006 | Thats not in my conifg on debian, but I will sort some stuff out and see where I go. Who knows, I may have a GUI by tonight!! |
| 17:28.22 | sancho___ | stew: x86 P4 xeon |
| 17:28.31 | stew | sancho___: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-686 |
| 17:28.32 | drivamgr2006 | bbfn for now, will come back and let you know how i get on |
| 17:28.32 | sancho___ | jinglemouse: FAQ? |
| 17:28.34 | jinglemouse | amd |
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| 17:28.48 | stew | jinglemouse: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-k7 |
| 17:29.33 | sancho___ | stew: OK, and then from there are there any gotchas with kernel headers, udev, etc? |
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| 17:29.47 | stew | sancho___: actually if that is a hyperthreading cpu you want kernel-image-2.6-686-smp |
| 17:29.53 | Zap-W | Stew: yes |
| 17:30.07 | stew | sancho___: you are running debian stable (aka 3.1 aka sarge) ? |
| 17:30.19 | Eulex | sohmestra, settings for a user are almost always stored in the dot-files in the home dir. I don't know if they're there or not, it was just a qualified guess. |
| 17:30.32 | stew | Zap-W: tar xjf /path/to/archive.tar.bz2 filenametoextract |
| 17:31.03 | sancho___ | stew: yeah, 3.1-r0a |
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| 17:31.54 | stew | sancho___: and are you using grub? there should be no gotchas. if you plan to compile 3rd party drivers for your new kernel you will want to get the matching headers package kernel-headers-2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 17:32.18 | darkness | Can someone tell me where i can see an example of a /etc/network interfaces file to see if i've config'd mine correctly? |
| 17:32.25 | sancho___ | stew: grub yes. as for udev, just grab from apt and away we go? |
| 17:32.32 | stew | darkness: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
| 17:32.37 | stew | sancho___: yes |
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| 17:33.21 | sancho___ | stew: we need himem support and some other tweaks; is the kernel-image package for us, or do we want to grab source and build the traditional linux kernel build way? |
| 17:33.56 | stew | sancho___: the -smp kernel will have support for up to 4gb, if you have more you need to compile your own, in which case /msg dpkg kp |
| 17:34.12 | [101] | how do I setup xscreen saver? |
| 17:34.17 | [101] | I have downloaded it |
| 17:34.22 | [101] | but how do I configure it |
| 17:34.28 | [101] | im running blackbox |
| 17:34.35 | Eulex | [101], you apt-got it? |
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| 17:34.53 | stew | [101]: if any config is necessary it would hopefully be documented in /usr/share/doc/xscreensaver/ |
| 17:34.53 | [101] | yes |
| 17:35.12 | [101] | but to choose which screen saver I want |
| 17:35.18 | [101] | how do I do it |
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| 17:35.28 | [101] | there should be a gui for it |
| 17:35.42 | amphi | [101]: man xscreensaver-command IIRC |
| 17:35.49 | Eulex | [101], run xscreensaver-demo |
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| 17:36.05 | aphexer | when running aptitude as a regular user i get this warning: W: Can't open Aptitude extended state file. what does it mean exactly and how do i fix it? |
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| 17:36.28 | mariguana | jejejejej |
| 17:36.40 | FourierSeries | !jejejejej |
| 17:36.42 | Eulex | aphexer, you run it as root. |
| 17:36.43 | FourierSeries | durn |
| 17:37.03 | aphexer | Eulex, should it also work as non-root? It used to... (and when actually installing it prompts for root password) |
| 17:37.35 | Eulex | aphexer, hmm. never tried that. sorry. |
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| 17:38.19 | aphexer | ok... |
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| 17:39.02 | FourierSeries | hm. It prompts me to "Become root" |
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| 17:39.53 | g3brown | I have DVD version of Sarge. I would like to copy the 2 DVDs to the hard drive. Can I do this and would what the syntax of the /etc/sources.list be then? |
| 17:40.10 | FourierSeries | aphexer: try su to root and then running it. any may fix your problem ( and you will have to run it as root to do anything useful anyway ) |
| 17:40.56 | aphexer | FourierSeries, it works when ran by root, however it used to work too when ran by a normal user |
| 17:41.10 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 17:41.10 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 17:41.11 | cahoot | aphexer: no sudo involved? |
| 17:41.36 | FourierSeries | aphexer: AHA! If I answer "do not become root" then it gives me an "could not open lock file ..." error. Run it as root. |
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| 17:42.58 | Eulex | g3brown, try apt-proxy, debmirror, debpartial-mirror |
| 17:43.26 | FourierSeries | and for good measue ... |
| 17:43.29 | FourierSeries | !popcorn |
| 17:43.40 | FourierSeries | :-) |
| 17:43.46 | thingfish | :/ |
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| 17:45.54 | g3brown | Eulex: would there be a problem in just copying all the files to the hard disk and use a file: instead of a cdrom: ? |
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| 17:46.04 | NOthsouth | after type this: iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -i eth0 -d 10.1.1.10 -p tcp --dport 5901 -j DNAT --to-destination 192.168.0.12 . how can I confirm if it work ? |
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| 17:47.46 | FourierSeries | NOthsouth: assuming the machine you typed it on is, in fact, 10.1.1.10 do this "telnet 10.1.1.10 5901" |
| 17:48.40 | Eulex | g3brown, I dunno if apt supports file://. you could try putting it on a local ftp server. |
| 17:49.31 | g3brown | Eulex: man shows file but I don't know if the structure would be the same. Guess I'll just have to monkey with it. |
| 17:49.46 | Eulex | g3brown, oh. then try that. |
| 17:49.47 | g3brown | Eulex: was hoping someone else had my stupid idea. |
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| 17:50.47 | aphexer | cahoot, no sudo involved no |
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| 17:50.52 | Eulex | g3brown, I didn't know that. you learn something new every day :) |
| 17:51.00 | aphexer | FourierSeries, i'm just starting aptitude, i'm not even saying it should install something |
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| 17:51.08 | aphexer | FourierSeries, of course when saying do not become root it gives an error |
| 17:51.09 | paveq | why doesn't debian offer i686 optimised binaries? |
| 17:51.18 | yang | How do i enable ftp "only" account? which shell should i use? |
| 17:51.27 | rss | how to get scim-m17n's applet running, I have installed scim-m17n on sarge |
| 17:51.27 | sancho___ | paveq: because they're overrated |
| 17:51.41 | cat | yang: apt-get install ftpd |
| 17:51.56 | yang | cat: i have proftpd installed |
| 17:51.58 | blondie | cat: I don't think that's the question |
| 17:51.59 | paveq | sancho___: I don't think so, do you really think that intel and amd develop more instructions for just fun? |
| 17:52.06 | paveq | etc.. |
| 17:52.14 | paveq | they must have some effect |
| 17:52.26 | FourierSeries | aphexer: I'g guessing that aptitide is trying to sort out a dependency problem, or some other problem from a previous run. To do that you will have to be root. However: - |
| 17:52.27 | rss | I use GNOME, and want scim's applet to run... |
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| 17:52.51 | sancho___ | paveq: I think several of those snazzy instructions provide no real performance boost for most applications and I challenge you to find documented benchmarks illustrating significant advantage. |
| 17:53.00 | FourierSeries | aphexer: I *can* run aptitide as a normal user, to just look around. |
| 17:53.09 | paveq | least my gentoo boxes feel fast... :/ |
| 17:53.21 | paveq | now someone tells me to prove it :D |
| 17:53.26 | aphexer | FourierSeries, since today I can't do that anymore :) |
| 17:53.30 | blondie | gentoo smells |
| 17:53.46 | paveq | blondie: why? |
| 17:53.47 | aphexer | FourierSeries, well I *can*, but it gives a warning |
| 17:53.48 | blondie | paveq: I hope you haven't come here to troll about crappy gentoo :P |
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| 17:53.58 | paveq | blondie: not at all |
| 17:53.59 | rss | paveq, it is relative... faster the applications get installed, faster will be th computer "P |
| 17:54.21 | sancho___ | paveq: yes, real proof. Not something like "l00kerz, my apache served a static html page 0.00002 seconds faster when I compiled with -O6 and optimized for p4 ;() |
| 17:54.34 | paveq | rss: but wouldn't it be great if debian offered already optimised binaries |
| 17:54.54 | FourierSeries | aphexer: Um. Well then. Try to bribe the sysadmin with beer & pizza. |
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| 17:55.23 | rss | paveq: you can always build them yourself |
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| 17:55.29 | aphexer | FourierSeries, unfortunately I *am* the sysadmin here |
| 17:55.49 | FourierSeries | O_o |
| 17:55.56 | Eclipser | mmh, someone recommend a good game from the sarge repo? :) |
| 17:56.13 | rss | Eclipser, machine specs |
| 17:56.19 | bbrazil | Eclipser: nethack |
| 17:56.23 | sancho___ | aphexer: looks like you're buying yourself beer and pizza then. :) |
| 17:56.24 | paveq | rss: then theres no reason to move debian if I have to compile |
| 17:56.27 | aphexer | :) |
| 17:56.29 | Eclipser | bbrazil, I'm bored of that already :p |
| 17:56.30 | FourierSeries | aphexer: and the problem with your root accsess being? ( management problem? ) |
| 17:56.38 | bbrazil | Eclipser: atc, adventure |
| 17:56.45 | rss | paveq, no compile, build your own debs |
| 17:56.46 | stew | paveq: why do you have to compile? |
| 17:56.51 | Eclipser | rss, XP1700+, GF6 6600, 512MB RAM |
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| 17:57.10 | afabian | paveq: Sure there is. It's called QA. |
| 17:57.11 | rss | Eclipser, try BZFlag |
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| 17:57.21 | sancho___ | stew: he wants i686 optimized binaries |
| 17:57.29 | paveq | afabian: ? |
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| 17:57.55 | paveq | stew: I don't have to, I just like my comp as fast as possible |
| 17:58.00 | paveq | duh :D |
| 17:58.03 | rss | hmm about scim-m17n... anyone got that running? |
| 17:58.12 | bucky | Eclipser, gl-117 |
| 17:58.16 | drivamgr2006 | ok. I have an XF86Config which works, I just need to transfer it from the disk i put it on, to here. |
| 17:58.23 | rss | paveq, run only console |
| 17:58.39 | stew | paveq: you can get a 686 optimized libc6, which would make a difference other stuff would not make a noticible difference |
| 17:58.53 | afabian | paveq: It's a bit of a joke. QA stands for 'quality assurance.' Gentoo is the embodiment of poor software engineering, creating an exponentially increasing number of untested execution paths with the USE flags. I've tried Gentoo, and I've never failed to hit a flaw when I exercise my so-called 'options.' |
| 17:58.56 | drivamgr2006 | I tried to mount the external device, /media/usb0 but it tells me i have to specify a type. The drive is in vfat, so what would I type to mount it? |
| 17:59.03 | afabian | Which, of course, makes sense, if you understand it. |
| 17:59.04 | Eclipser | bucky, rss, thanks I'll try those |
| 17:59.27 | stew | drivamgr2006: -tvfat |
| 17:59.38 | paveq | afabian: do you know how much testing gentoo stable packages go through? |
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| 17:59.55 | stew | paveq: afabian please take the gentoo discussion to #gentoo or /msg |
| 18:00.04 | drivamgr2006 | so it would be mount -tvfat /media/usb0 stew? |
| 18:00.05 | rss | Eclipser, flightgear too |
| 18:00.27 | Nemoi | Running 3.1. I've installed the kernel sources and I want to recompile the hermes wireless driver (after patching it). What do I do to have only the driver module ../src/linux-kernelnumber/drivers/net/wireless/hermes.c recompiled? |
| 18:00.31 | paveq | stew: yes, we need #gentoo-vs-debian channel? |
| 18:00.48 | rss | paveq, at least not #debian |
| 18:00.49 | stew | paveq: if you /join #gentoo-vs-debian one will be created for you |
| 18:00.55 | ladytootoo | hi everyone, i have a small question. does anyone know if there is an updated package of postfix-policyd out there. i'd like to upgrade mine from 1.55-1 to 1.70 and i don't want to compile. |
| 18:00.59 | stew | drivamgr2006: do you have an fstab entry for /media/usb0? |
| 18:01.04 | tarzeau | abrotman: tried it? |
| 18:01.12 | drivamgr2006 | yes stew - I have |
| 18:01.29 | sancho___ | run Gentoo with your incredibly tuned optimizations and then run one next to a Debian system built off of conservative optimations. Then, see if there is any *real* difference in running apps side by side. *then* counterweigh the trouble it takes you to fix your critically-optimized binary failures to find out how much more efficient it made you. |
| 18:01.36 | sancho___ | sorry, i'll stop now. |
| 18:01.45 | drivamgr2006 | good |
| 18:01.48 | drivamgr2006 | :) |
| 18:01.50 | stew | drivamgr2006: the 3rd column is filesystem type |
| 18:01.58 | afabian | sancho___: I know how you feel. You just want to smack some sense into them. ;) |
| 18:02.09 | drivamgr2006 | it says auto stew |
| 18:02.12 | stew | drivamgr2006: or you can mount -tvfat /dev/sdxx /media/usb0 |
| 18:02.27 | stew | drivamgr2006: substituding the actual device for /dev/sdxx |
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| 18:02.56 | drivamgr2006 | so it would be: if I have this right, mount -tvfat /dev/sda /media/usb0 ? |
| 18:02.58 | sancho___ | stew, thanks for the input on the kernel, it did turn out to be nothing at all. new 2.6.8 works great. |
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| 18:03.57 | stew | drivamgr2006: yes, or something like /dev/sda if the media is partitioned ("fdisk -l /dev/sda" would tell you) |
| 18:04.18 | stew | sancho___: you're welcome |
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| 18:05.33 | misantroph | hey :) need help :/ with X |
| 18:05.45 | yang | How do i enable "ftp only" account? which shell should i use for this user? |
| 18:05.45 | misantroph | need .se keyboard modell |
| 18:06.16 | stew | yang: /bin/false |
| 18:06.19 | yang | misantroph: you can check in Xfree86config for your keyboard outlay |
| 18:06.28 | yang | stew: i did that, but its not letting the user in |
| 18:06.38 | misantroph | should i type that? |
| 18:06.51 | misantroph | well iam in middle if the instalklation |
| 18:06.54 | misantroph | opps |
| 18:06.57 | misantroph | instalaltione |
| 18:06.59 | misantroph | wtf |
| 18:07.09 | Spec | installation? |
| 18:07.13 | misantroph | of x |
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| 18:07.27 | misantroph | or config.. well its a blue gui thingi |
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| 18:07.40 | misantroph | debian conf |
| 18:07.54 | stew | misantroph: you should be given a choice during the configuration |
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| 18:08.00 | yang | misantroph: it asks you about keyboard type when you are installing X |
| 18:08.15 | misantroph | yeah :) and i dont know the answer :) |
| 18:08.29 | misantroph | it says us modell is pc104 |
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| 18:08.48 | Eulex | misantroph, pc105 is swedish. |
| 18:08.54 | misantroph | thx :D |
| 18:09.09 | vero | hola |
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| 18:09.18 | vero | comote llamas de donde eres |
| 18:09.23 | Eulex | misantroph, and you should run dpkg-reconfigure locales and ensure that you use a swedish locale. |
| 18:09.38 | stew | !es |
| 18:09.39 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:09.41 | misantroph | will do |
| 18:09.42 | Eulex | vero, la lengua de #debian es inglés. |
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| 18:10.24 | vero | que qui eres de cir con eso |
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| 18:11.21 | stew | vero: /join #debian-es |
| 18:11.46 | tabasko | hi Å“/ |
| 18:11.47 | Eulex | paveq, I'm developing a piece of software. I've got two programs that test performance. I usually compile with -march=i386. I tried compiling with -march=i686 instead, and it increased the speed of one of the apps by 1.5% and decreased the speed of the other by 6% |
| 18:12.06 | tabasko | can someone help me with nvidia drivers? |
| 18:12.21 | tuv | tabasko: what's your problem? |
| 18:12.36 | Eulex | !nvidia one liner |
| 18:12.36 | dpkg | somebody said nvidia one-liner was update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86. Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 18:13.10 | tabasko | tuv: i have bought new geforge, before it there was ati |
| 18:13.25 | stew | !drxx tabasko |
| 18:13.25 | dpkg | tabasko: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 18:13.44 | tabasko | i am trying install drivers with this howto: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074&highlight=nvidia |
| 18:13.58 | stew | tabasko: are you running ubuntu? do you need 3d accelleration? |
| 18:14.07 | Eulex | tabasko, are you on debian or ubuntu? |
| 18:14.07 | tabasko | stew, yes |
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| 18:14.13 | tabasko | ubuntu |
| 18:14.21 | stew | tabasko: wrong channel, please ask in #ubuntu |
| 18:14.23 | tuv | tabasko: following dpkg's instruction above should work |
| 18:14.28 | nene_ | ola |
| 18:14.34 | Eulex | !br |
| 18:14.34 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:14.38 | vero | ola |
| 18:15.05 | drivamgr2006 | Ok not getting anywhere with this. I tried to mount /media/usb0 as a vfat system, but it refuses, says it cannot find a valid vfat fs. |
| 18:15.11 | vero | como te lamas nene |
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| 18:15.19 | drivamgr2006 | !es |
| 18:15.19 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:15.19 | doooner | hello , |
| 18:15.36 | tabasko | tuv, i have xorg, and if config it, it do not give me 3d accelleration. but i try asking from ubuntu :) -> |
| 18:15.37 | encryptedX | hello, I installed the webmin-postfix for my webmin server, how to access it thru web? |
| 18:15.41 | doooner | hello , How I can make a pcl file to text? |
| 18:15.50 | nene_ | antonio y tu como te llamas |
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| 18:15.55 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, what device are you trying to mount? |
| 18:15.56 | tarzeau | doooner: what says file the.pcl ? |
| 18:16.10 | tuv | tabasko: did you build the nvidia kernel module? |
| 18:16.17 | encryptedX | hello, I installed the webmin-postfix for my webmin server, how to access it thru web? |
| 18:16.18 | Eulex | tabasko, debian is not ubuntu. ask in #ubuntu. |
| 18:16.19 | drivamgr2006 | It is an external USB Hard drive, /dv/sda 250gb, and there is an entry for it in fstab |
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| 18:16.23 | doooner | tarzeau: the pcl file is text, if gone to laser printer |
| 18:16.30 | drivamgr2006 | /dev/sda << sorry for the typo |
| 18:16.32 | encryptedX | hello, I installed the webmin-postfix for my postfix server, how to access it thru web? |
| 18:16.32 | paveq | Eulex: did you enable some processos specific stuff too? |
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| 18:16.44 | tarzeau | doooner: don't people usually use ps (postscript) |
| 18:16.58 | Eulex | tuv, how do you know that dpkg's instructions will work on ubuntu? |
| 18:17.01 | Eulex | paveq, like what? |
| 18:17.10 | paveq | Eulex: mxx, sse, sse2, etc. |
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| 18:17.27 | paveq | Eulex: have you get test results somewhere in net? |
| 18:17.30 | paveq | *got |
| 18:17.36 | Daishi | running eject on my usb drive doesnt work, i searched google and only found old posts for redhat that dont apply to me, ill try eject /dev/sda and /dev/sda1 and get: eject: unable to open `/dev/sda1 |
| 18:17.37 | tuv | Eulex: if it doesn't work then we're excused :) |
| 18:17.59 | Eulex | paveq, then it ain't i686 optimized anymore. i686 = pentium pro. a pentium pro has neither mmx nor any sse |
| 18:18.15 | Daishi | in slackware and in windows when ejecting the blue screen on the drive would turn off |
| 18:18.20 | tuv | Daishi: you don't eject a usb drive, you unmount it! |
| 18:18.24 | paveq | Eulex: sure, but if I got amd64 or pentium4 |
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| 18:18.40 | Eulex | paveq, sure, but you said i686 optimized. |
| 18:18.45 | yang | stew: I run proftpd, and i get 530 Login incorrect. wioth user having /bin/false |
| 18:18.47 | blondie | Daishi: what tuv said |
| 18:18.50 | pingouin_ | why grub dont want to boot afer an fresh install of debian , installed on the mbr ? |
| 18:19.15 | spatulasnout | hi, i just built and installed a kernel, and dpkg -i spewed out maybe 1000 lines like: depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-grsec.051222/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko |
| 18:19.16 | spatulasnout | is that normal? |
| 18:19.25 | Daishi | tuv: but isnt unmounting different from ejecting? |
| 18:19.35 | paveq | Eulex: but by your tests i686 instructions are slower than i386 |
| 18:19.39 | ice_1963 | yes |
| 18:19.45 | paveq | than is weirdest stuff I heard |
| 18:19.45 | stew | yang: iirc proftpd has a "requireshell" or "requirelogin" option or something similar that you need to disable |
| 18:19.53 | doooner | tarzeau: well in this case I have pcl |
| 18:20.00 | Daishi | i know the same goes with my ipod, not only do you have to unmount it but eject it aswell so it says "safe to disconnect" |
| 18:20.06 | tarzeau | doooner: tried apt-cache search pcl yet? |
| 18:20.08 | tuv | Daishi: exactly.. eject is for cd/dvd media. umount is for hd media |
| 18:20.12 | faked | how can I disable a kernel-module to be loaded in /boot/grub/menu.list ? |
| 18:20.17 | Eulex | paveq, no. *i686 optimizations* are overall a little slower on my program. |
| 18:20.31 | tarzeau | faked: huh? |
| 18:20.33 | Daishi | has something to do with making sure all the buffers are flushed |
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| 18:20.43 | whoknows | what's the link to the hp driver project for printers on linux? |
| 18:20.51 | stew | faked: which module? you probably want /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:21.01 | Eulex | paveq, why would a p4 or amd64 (or in my case pentium m) gain performance by optimizing for pentium pro? |
| 18:21.08 | whoknows | or could you give a name to insert in google? |
| 18:21.16 | faked | tarzeau: the problem is, in my initrd is a driver called aicxxx, but I do not need this one |
| 18:21.22 | ice_1963 | what's your printer ?? |
| 18:21.27 | bbrazil | whoknows: google 'hp driver project for printers on linux' |
| 18:21.34 | whoknows | hp 5610 |
| 18:21.34 | drivamgr2006 | So now I am utterly borked. I cannot get into my mdv install from here to do a direct copy from there of the file I want, and the disk I have put it on flatly refuses to mount, either auto or otherwise! Yet it works in mdv... |
| 18:21.39 | Nemoi | With kernel sources installed, how do I recompile only a certain module/driver? (I need only to patch & compile that *one* and would rather not compile the entire kernel) |
| 18:21.42 | faked | tarzeau: so, is it possible to disable it in the grub.conf? |
| 18:21.44 | stew | faked: man mkinitrd.conf |
| 18:21.47 | tabasko | tuv, nvidia's .run file maked something to kernel, but it didnt help :/ |
| 18:21.57 | paveq | Eulex: have you tried to optimise for pentium-m vs. i386? |
| 18:21.58 | tabasko | hm, ubuntu people doesnt want help :/ |
| 18:22.10 | Eulex | paveq, I could try. |
| 18:22.13 | bbrazil | whoknows: what you really want is http://www.linuxprinting.org/ |
| 18:22.23 | faked | stew: is it only possible to change the inird to disable a module? |
| 18:22.25 | tuv | tabasko: have you asked for help in #ubuntu. i hate to help you with something that does not work on ubuntu |
| 18:22.34 | yang | stew: # RequireValidShell off |
| 18:22.40 | stew | Nemoi: what module? if its a patch you need to compile the entire kenrel, if its a module you shouldn't need to, many modules have already been papckaged |
| 18:22.45 | Nemoi | I tried to just 'gcc -o hermes.o hermes.c', which naturally didn't work, nor did 'make' in the /wireless directory, which gives a bunchload fo errors |
| 18:22.51 | tabasko | tuv, yes, i asked there, but nobody wants help :( |
| 18:22.58 | paveq | Eulex: anyways, binary firefox in my gentoo starts faster than compiled one, but I think thats because I have 64 bit system, and 64 bit things can be slower |
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| 18:23.26 | FourierSeries | yang: uncomment that? ( get rid of the "#" ) |
| 18:23.32 | tuv | tabasko: ok, but i know what works for debian, if you are interested. |
| 18:23.36 | bucky | whoknows, apt-cache show hpoj and apt-cache show foomatic-db-hpijs |
| 18:23.39 | ice_1963 | hmm |
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| 18:23.49 | Nemoi | stew: I'm making the hermes.o for my hermes wireless card support monitoring mode, so I have to patch the source and recompile it. |
| 18:23.57 | tuv | so much for the freindly ubuntu community! |
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| 18:24.10 | stew | faked: i don't know what is happening in your situation, if you want it removed from your initrd which is loaded by grub, man mkinitrd.conf ; if you want to prevent debian from loading it due to hardware detection /msg dpkg blacklist |
| 18:24.17 | bucky | Nemoi, what kind of card.. which chip? |
| 18:24.22 | tabasko | but anyway, do you debianpeople install drivers with 3d accelleration like dpkg said? :O |
| 18:24.31 | yang | FourierSeries: thanks |
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| 18:24.39 | Nemoi | bucky: An Avaya Silver world card, running the hermes chipset |
| 18:24.40 | stew | Nemoi: if you are sure the debian kernel doesn't already support that, you'll have to build the entire kernel, /msg dpkg kp |
| 18:24.48 | marcos3 | olaaaa |
| 18:24.53 | tuv | tabasko: what i would do in a debian system is not to run the nvidia's .run installer. so first uninstall what that .run file installed. i think it has an unistaller |
| 18:24.53 | stew | !br |
| 18:24.54 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 18:24.59 | FourierSeries | yang: Thank stew too! ( he's the one who really fixed your problem! ) |
| 18:25.11 | doooner | apt-cache search pcl |
| 18:25.12 | stew | tuv: please take it to #ubuntu |
| 18:25.30 | tarzeau | is there no general statistics about all packages say in all sid of all linux i386 in bts? |
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| 18:25.44 | tuv | stew: but i'm not talking about ubuntu |
| 18:25.55 | tabasko | i tried "dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg", and choosed nv or nvidia, but no 3d :/ |
| 18:26.02 | stew | tuv: yes you are |
| 18:26.17 | faked | stew: my problem: there a 2 modules: aicxxx and aicxxx_old. I can blacklist aicxxx in /etc/blacklist and insert aicxxx_old in /etc/modules, but it does not work because aicxxx is part of initrd |
| 18:26.19 | abrotman | tarzeau: i didn't get home in time last night |
| 18:26.22 | Nemoi | stew: I'm sure there's no support for it, as "iwpriv eth1" doesn't list "monitor" (which it should, with patching and recompile). Really, I have to compile the entire kernel after patching the hermes.c =? |
| 18:26.37 | tabasko | :/ |
| 18:26.56 | tuv | stew: no i'm not! i'm describing what't to be done on a debian system. where he applies it does not make inapplicable for debian |
| 18:27.21 | faked | stew: so, if there's a commandline option in /boot/grub/menu.conf to prevent using aicxxx from initrd, I do not need to modify initrd each kernel release |
| 18:28.04 | Nemoi | I can't just... compile the hermes chipset module and it'll be all goodie? |
| 18:28.06 | stew | tuv: you are helping someone whom is not running debian with some closed source software, you should both move to #ubuntu |
| 18:28.12 | afabian | Anyone here compose mail with xemacs-nomule on sarge? |
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| 18:29.12 | tarzeau | afabian: #emacs ? |
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| 18:30.25 | stouset | Is yaird/2.6.14-6 still borked? |
| 18:30.30 | tarzeau | how not do a gui: http://www.jensroesner.de/wgetgui/wgetgui.png |
| 18:30.35 | UltraSub | i just defined 6 md devices on 2 disks, configured in raid-1, instead of one single raid vol with 6 partitions. It was the only way I could get it to work from scratch (netinstall). Is this a serious performance hit, except from the fact that this isn't the nicest way to do it? |
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| 18:30.46 | afabian | tarzeau: I've worked around the problem with a little local hack in my init.el, but I think there might be an unpatched bug in the Debian version or something. |
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| 18:31.08 | stew | stouset: /topic |
| 18:31.45 | stouset | stew: Aye. No kernel's specified though, and there was a new revision released since the last time I attempted. |
| 18:32.04 | stew | stouset: we don't have any information that the bts doesn't |
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| 18:32.58 | drivamgr2006 | back in a while. gonna nip into mdv and see if I can find an alternative way of using this stupid external hard disk, since I dont seem to be able to mount it |
| 18:33.07 | Eulex | paveq, http://pastebin.com/475369 |
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| 18:34.05 | stouset | stew: Fair enough. |
| 18:34.11 | Eulex | paveq, I had one more program I could benchmark lying around, so I included that one too. |
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| 18:34.12 | Ghost25 | Who is the GERMAN Channel ? |
| 18:34.16 | Eulex | !de |
| 18:34.16 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 18:34.21 | Andy0516 | how do i change the server IP to static perminent? |
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| 18:34.31 | stew | Andy0516: /msg dpkg man interfaces |
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| 18:36.03 | Andy0516 | ow do i get an iface status? |
| 18:36.04 | Eulex | anyone who |
| 18:36.19 | bucky | Andy0516, /sbin/ifconfig |
| 18:36.21 | blondie | Andy0516: ifconfig? |
| 18:36.28 | bucky | !win bucky |
| 18:36.28 | dpkg | Congratulations, bucky! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 18:36.46 | Thug-N-Me | anyone using ISPconfg ? |
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| 18:36.56 | Thug-N-Me | A web-based interface for system administration for Unix |
| 18:37.00 | Thug-N-Me | like webmin |
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| 18:37.47 | stouset | Thug-N-Me: Doubt it. Most of the folks here think those tools are extremely poor. |
| 18:38.01 | Eulex | anyone who's interested in a comparison between optimizing 3 programs for i386, i686 and pentium-m should check this out: http://pastebin.com/475369 (the programs are run on a pentium m) |
| 18:38.02 | paveq | Eulex: how did you get those? |
| 18:38.02 | Thug-N-Me | wanna try it out |
| 18:38.15 | Eulex | paveq, umh, what do you mean? |
| 18:38.17 | Andy0516 | when i reboot my server seems to lose it's IP? |
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| 18:38.36 | doooner | I have okidata 321 dot matrix printer, ibm proprinter. What driver I must make this printer to understand pcl for linux. this kind of printer understand pcl3 by default |
| 18:38.38 | paveq | Eulex: how did you get those |
| 18:38.49 | stew | Andy0516: its statically configured or dynamic? do you have a auto line for that interface in interfaces? |
| 18:38.53 | paveq | Eulex: bumbers |
| 18:39.01 | doooner | I have it as ibm proprinter driver |
| 18:39.01 | Andy0516 | statis |
| 18:39.16 | Andy0516 | auto eth0 |
| 18:39.17 | Andy0516 | iface eth0 inet static |
| 18:39.17 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.17 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:39.17 | Andy0516 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:39.26 | FourierSeries | o_O |
| 18:39.27 | tuv | are all P4's 64 bit?? |
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| 18:39.31 | Eulex | paveq, the programs output how long they took to run. |
| 18:39.32 | Andy0516 | oops |
| 18:39.37 | bucky | Andy0516, don't flood |
| 18:39.41 | Andy0516 | sorry for pasting! |
| 18:39.44 | bucky | Andy0516, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high |
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| 18:39.53 | bucky | set your nameserver while you're at it |
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| 18:40.08 | paveq | Eulex: but what is the program |
| 18:40.13 | doooner | I have okidata 321 dot matrix printer, ibm proprinter. What driver I must make this printer to understand pcl for linux. this kind of printer understand pcl3. I have it configured as ibm proprinter. What driver you recomend? |
| 18:40.16 | paveq | Eulex: game, console app, X? |
| 18:40.26 | Andy0516 | so i dont need the auto eth0 line? |
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| 18:40.34 | madradrone | tuv: mine isn't ;-) |
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| 18:40.44 | spatulasnout | hi, i'm worried about the kernel i built, with dpkg -i saying depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.6.14.3-grsec.051222/kernel/drivers/net/8139too.ko ..... because i want to be able to boot this kernel on a system with that 8139too hardware |
| 18:40.46 | tuv | madradrone: how did you know? |
| 18:40.56 | stew | Andy0516: you need it |
| 18:41.03 | Andy0516 | oh |
| 18:41.06 | bucky | Andy0516, you do if you want it to come up at boot automatically |
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| 18:41.49 | stew | Andy0516: when you boot, eth0 is not configured? |
| 18:42.09 | madradrone | tuv: good question, i don't know if theres some place you can get output about how many bits the CPU is. /proc/cpuinfo doesn't seem to say... |
| 18:42.09 | Andy0516 | its trying to get DHCP i want it static! |
| 18:42.38 | Eulex | paveq, the programs are from a work-in-progress librare I'm developing. They are console apps. The programs test a back-end library for a programming language. They do mostly number crunching, but they need quite a lot of branching too because of type handling. |
| 18:42.44 | Eulex | *library |
| 18:42.49 | bucky | Andy0516, don't set the static IP to an IP in the reserved range of your router if it's a dhcp server |
| 18:42.51 | tuv | madradrone: so how come you're sure yours isn't? |
| 18:43.10 | Andy0516 | DHCP is from 4 - 255 |
| 18:43.15 | Andy0516 | im trying to set it to 3 |
| 18:43.28 | paveq | Eulex: ok |
| 18:43.38 | madradrone | tuv: because i know that there are no 64-bit cpu thinkpads ;-) |
| 18:43.39 | stew | Andy0516: it would not try to do dhcp with that interfaces file |
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| 18:43.54 | stew | Andy0516: what happens when you /etc/init.d/networking restart? |
| 18:43.57 | paveq | Eulex: can that be used to test other things as well |
| 18:44.03 | bucky | Andy0516, does ifconfig show that the driver is loaded for your nic? |
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| 18:44.21 | Eulex | paveq, umh, like what? |
| 18:44.38 | paveq | Eulex: well, example firefox |
| 18:44.55 | paveq | Eulex: I just use time firefox.. |
| 18:44.58 | Eulex | paveq, not really. |
| 18:45.15 | stew | bucky: if its getting an address from dhcp, the driver is certainly loaded |
| 18:45.47 | Andy0516 | all looks fine" |
| 18:46.02 | bucky | i don't know how it's supposed to be getting an address from dhcp when he has iface eth0 inet static |
| 18:46.21 | Eulex | paveq, it does just test how long time it takes for the program to run. the cpu use of background processes get included too. fyi, the cpu use of the other processes on my system was about 1-3% constantly during the time I ran the tests. |
| 18:46.21 | Andy0516 | just rebooting will check if it has kept the IP then |
| 18:46.34 | Eulex | *gets |
| 18:46.56 | bucky | Andy0516, ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0 |
| 18:47.05 | Andy0516 | yeah thats working now :) |
| 18:47.09 | Andy0516 | sorry about that! |
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| 18:47.39 | bucky | Andy0516, like it says in the doc.. you have to use ifdown ifup to read /etc/network/interfaces |
| 18:47.53 | Andy0516 | k |
| 18:47.59 | Eulex | paveq, you could argue that my results are false because of that, but I think they are quite clear even if they include the cpu use of the background processes. |
| 18:48.23 | paveq | Eulex: well test 2 is LOT faster |
| 18:48.24 | paveq | hmm |
| 18:48.30 | paveq | *wonders* |
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| 18:48.55 | Eulex | paveq, yep it is. |
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| 18:50.52 | Eulex | paveq, then about the binaries optimized for pentium-m: gcc does just treat a pentium m as a p3 with a bigger cache. and btw, last time I tried compiling it with auto-vectorization (mmx, sse, sse2) it segfaulted. |
| 18:51.15 | Eulex | the binary that was produced, that is. not gcc |
| 18:51.30 | whoknows | is CUPS related to hpoj in any way? |
| 18:51.37 | paveq | Eulex: hmm |
| 18:51.39 | reind | Anyone having problems with samba on testing? Just did an upgrade and it broke |
| 18:51.57 | cdemwell | not so far. |
| 18:52.05 | whoknows | can i print without enabling CUPS (other than hpoj)? |
| 18:52.05 | cdemwell | I haven't upgraded in a little while though... what broke? |
| 18:52.13 | cdemwell | whoknows: sure |
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| 18:52.14 | reind | checking logs now |
| 18:52.28 | whoknows | cdemwell, what does CUPS server for? |
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| 18:52.44 | cdemwell | CUPS is a fairly extensive print system |
| 18:52.50 | cdemwell | Usually, I recommend it |
| 18:52.50 | marculix | After upgrading to sarge to r1, I plan to change /etc/debian_version from '3.1' to '3.1r1', does somebody think I'll run into trouble with that change (other packages which read that specific file...)? |
| 18:53.15 | BioTech | i need help with my modem...needing a driver and all ready looked at linmodem.org :( |
| 18:53.17 | caphuso | marculix: write it on the CDs you burnt |
| 18:53.31 | caphuso | the point release is meaningless for anything else |
| 18:53.31 | marculix | chch |
| 18:53.46 | marculix | but for me on my workstation |
| 18:53.57 | caphuso | marculix: for you it's meaningless too |
| 18:54.03 | marculix | which are 1. not on CD and 2. remote |
| 18:54.15 | Nemoi | stew: Sorry, but this isn't entirely clear to me: If I patch a module.c (hermes.c, in this instance), I need to compile the entire kernel to take advantage of the modification the patch did to the module? Just compiling the module isn't enough? |
| 18:54.18 | marculix | not it's not meaningless, because I know then if I already upgraded or not |
| 18:54.18 | tuv | so generally speaking, how can i tell whether my P4 is 32bit or 64bit? |
| 18:54.41 | BioTech | can any one help? |
| 18:54.45 | caphuso | marculix: a point release just means "we moved the .deb files from security.debian.org to the main mirror" |
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| 18:55.17 | stew | Nemoi: correct |
| 18:55.35 | Eulex | paveq, compiling with auto-vectorization worked this time (has been quite some upgrades of gcc since last time): Test 1: 3.76 Test 2: 1.02 Test 3: 0.34 |
| 18:55.48 | Nemoi | stew: ..what should I read to understand why this is so? |
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| 18:56.42 | marculix | caphuso: maybe, but thx anyway, I'll track that on my box... Somebody will answer me my specific question... |
| 18:56.48 | faked | I have problems in mounting my gunzipped initrd: mount initrd /mnt/extern/ -o loop |
| 18:56.48 | faked | ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Das Gerät oder die Ressource ist belegt |
| 18:56.48 | faked | mount: you must specify the filesystem type |
| 18:56.57 | faked | so what's wrong? |
| 18:57.09 | paveq | Eulex: hmm |
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| 18:57.26 | paveq | Eulex: what sort of things those do |
| 18:57.35 | paveq | Eulex: thats quite big difference |
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| 18:58.17 | BioTech | hello |
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| 18:58.58 | drivamgr2006 | Now I am running outta patience. I need to get the xserver up on here, but having tried to copy th XF86Config from my other kit, as recommended by stew, I cannot access the drive it is stored on. |
| 18:59.47 | tarzeau | drivamgr2006: is someone near you? |
| 18:59.55 | drivamgr2006 | no |
| 18:59.56 | spottix | haha |
| 19:00.00 | stew | drivamgr2006: then show us what errors you get while using the i810 driver |
| 19:00.38 | bizkit | hi |
| 19:00.44 | Haukkari | Eulex: what program were you compiling? |
| 19:00.46 | Eulex | paveq, Test 1 tests almost every feature of the library, though it's mostly stuck doing referencing and dereferencing of memory areas. Test 2 and 3 are variations on the same test, the sieve prime test. The difference is that I've removed branches from test 3 by writing special purpose functions (just to test it). |
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| 19:01.41 | Eulex | Haukkari, <Eulex> paveq, the programs are from a work-in-progress librare I'm developing. They are console apps. The programs test a back-end library for a programming language. They do mostly number crunching, but they need quite a lot of branching too because of type handling. |
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| 19:02.05 | drivamgr2006 | It amounts to one line stew. [EE] Screens found, but none have a useable configuration |
| 19:02.10 | Eulex | Haukkari, that is, a programming language I and another person are developing. |
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| 19:02.23 | stew | !noscreensfound |
| 19:02.23 | dpkg | i guess noscreensfound is probably dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 19:02.37 | Haukkari | Eulex: and there is no apparent increase in performance with gcc compile flags? |
| 19:02.39 | Sneaky_Bastard | Dear God, yet another pointless programming language. |
| 19:02.40 | stew | !noscreensfound =~ s#-plow## |
| 19:02.40 | dpkg | OK, stew |
| 19:02.41 | Sneaky_Bastard | >:( |
| 19:03.04 | Eulex | Haukkari, no. |
| 19:03.08 | Haukkari | Eulex: hmh. :) |
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| 19:03.23 | Haukkari | Eulex: I think it's more about the code and algorithms in the code than the "super optimilizations" |
| 19:03.24 | stew | drivamgr2006: /msg dpkg md5; /msg dpkg drxx ; you need to select refresh rates and resolutions appropriate to your monitor |
| 19:03.29 | stew | drivamgr2006: how is your monitor connected? |
| 19:03.37 | Eulex | Haukkari, me too. |
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| 19:03.53 | Eulex | Haukkari, well, -O0 instead of -02 sure makes it slower |
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| 19:03.57 | stew | drivamgr2006: like does it happen to be a laptop or connected via dvi? |
| 19:03.58 | drivamgr2006 | Through onboard monitor socket stew |
| 19:04.10 | Haukkari | Eulex: yeah, but i386 -O2 is as fast as i686 -O2? :) |
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| 19:04.13 | drivamgr2006 | no stew. Bog standard CRT Monitor 17" |
| 19:04.24 | Eulex | Haukkari, http://pastebin.com/475369 |
| 19:04.25 | paveq | Eulex: but doesn't test 2 show pretty clearly that optimisations do help? |
| 19:04.53 | Haukkari | paveq: test2 is slower on i686 ja pentium-m |
| 19:05.00 | Haukkari | paveq: and a bit faster on i386 |
| 19:05.02 | paveq | Eulex: btw, if we would test some heavy 3D game, I think sse and sse2 would help quite much |
| 19:05.04 | stew | drivamgr2006: look in the log for the resolution that you speicfied as default, and see why those modes were thrown away, probably becuase you didn't specify the correct refresh rates for your monitor |
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| 19:05.39 | Sneaky_Bastard | paveq: sse or sse2 will only help *if the game was compiled to use them* |
| 19:05.52 | paveq | well if its open source game |
| 19:05.55 | Eulex | paveq, probably. but auto-vectorization is still experimental. and it can't be applied in that many situations. |
| 19:06.02 | caphuso | Eulex: out of curiousity, what results does -Os give? |
| 19:06.06 | Haukkari | Sneaky_Bastard: and I think it should be written to take advantage of those, too |
| 19:06.27 | Haukkari | Sneaky_Bastard: I really don't think the gcc build-time options will help as much as proper coding. =) |
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| 19:07.41 | Eulex | caphuso, Test 1: 3.45s (!?) Test 2: 1.63s Test 3: 0.49s |
| 19:07.44 | drivamgr2006 | ok |
| 19:07.45 | paveq | then why do processor manufacturers put new instructions if they are not usefull, and no one uses them? |
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| 19:08.04 | Haukkari | paveq: I think that the new flags are useful if usen properly. |
| 19:08.22 | paveq | Haukkari: what about these |
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| 19:08.28 | Haukkari | paveq: but I would think that one should take advantage of the, say, SSE-features while writing the program, not just when compiling. |
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| 19:08.33 | Miesco | How do I find out what sound card I have |
| 19:08.41 | caphuso | Miesco: lspci |
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| 19:08.48 | paveq | Test 1: 3.45s (!?) Test 2: 1.63s Test 3: 0.49s <- you say that those are small differences? |
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| 19:09.20 | paveq | Haukkari: of course, but do you say that programs don't take the advance of them |
| 19:09.31 | Eulex | paveq, that was with -Os |
| 19:09.47 | moldykeyboard | The current stable version of Debian is 3.1r1, but in cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/ I see that and 3.1 r0a, which one do I want for the latest stable? |
| 19:10.02 | Haukkari | paveq: those test 1 - test 2 - test 3 you pasted were with the same CPU optimization. |
| 19:10.05 | paveq | Eulex: what about -O2 |
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| 19:10.19 | BioTech | i need help with my lack of modem driver. |
| 19:10.23 | paveq | hrm |
| 19:10.28 | lunitik | moldykeyboard: think logically... which number is bigger... r1 or r0? :/ |
| 19:10.33 | Eulex | paveq, those are in the pastebin |
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| 19:10.54 | moldykeyboard | lunitik, woah you're right, thanks. |
| 19:10.58 | paveq | Eulex: have you tried any -f<optimisation> |
| 19:11.01 | moldykeyboard | lunitik, party on wayne |
| 19:11.06 | paveq | Eulex: like -funroll-loops :DDd |
| 19:11.07 | bbrazil | Eulex: caching? |
| 19:11.15 | paveq | just joking |
| 19:11.17 | Eulex | paveq, no, I haven't |
| 19:11.21 | Eulex | bbrazil, probably |
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| 19:11.55 | paveq | Eulex: so debian i386 system should be as fast as gentoo -omg-optimised system? |
| 19:12.01 | paveq | I can't believe that |
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| 19:12.30 | Eulex | paveq, you mean "I can't believe that I wasted that much time", eh? |
| 19:12.40 | paveq | or I'm compiling them to make them run _slower_ |
| 19:12.43 | roler | i've always used lilo and had no problems compiling and installing a new kernel. but how do I install a new kernel with grub? |
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| 19:13.06 | lunitik | roler: its done automagically... |
| 19:13.14 | lunitik | roler: no intervention required |
| 19:13.21 | Eulex | paveq, this is specific for these programs. it really differs between programs. I'm not saying that my results are all-encompassing |
| 19:13.22 | BrainDamage | hi everybody, i need little help...i have problems with pppd as regular user, the problem is that only as root i can connect to internet...pppd(wvdial) send me a message (error 2 : An error was detected in processing the options given, such as two mutually exclusive options being used. ) |
| 19:13.35 | roler | lunitik; well, I have a kernel in arch/i386/boot of my kernel source code - i used make bzImage. |
| 19:13.44 | spezticle | Can someone tell me what the default kernel that is installed with Debian Version 3.1r0 "Sarge" ? |
| 19:13.46 | paveq | lunitik: don't you have to edit grub.conf? |
| 19:13.50 | roler | lunitik; am I supposed to do make grub or something? |
| 19:14.01 | lunitik | paveq: file isn't even grub.conf.... |
| 19:14.07 | lunitik | paveq: sometimes though... sure |
| 19:14.28 | paveq | lunitik: if you don't want to over run your last kernel |
| 19:14.31 | stew | spezticle: either 2.4.27-2 or 2.6.8-2 |
| 19:14.34 | lunitik | roler: meh... see /boot/grub/menu.lst... its really not complicated to see what to do.... |
| 19:14.45 | paveq | some cases new kernel won't work as expected |
| 19:14.51 | spezticle | thanks :) thats what i needed |
| 19:15.00 | lunitik | paveq: update-grub will just add new kernels, not remove old ones |
| 19:15.08 | drivamgr2006 | Yikes! I almost had it there stew! I just hand modified the XF86Config according to what was in the other distro, and it very nearly kicked off. No errors shown, just that the monitor screen was blank and the light went orange. Sorta turned the monitor off |
| 19:15.11 | paveq | lunitik: whats that? |
| 19:15.24 | paveq | lunitik: I always update my grub.conf by hand |
| 19:15.29 | roler | lunaphyte; oh nice |
| 19:15.29 | paveq | just to be sure |
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| 19:15.34 | roler | lunitik; nice |
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| 19:15.36 | lunitik | paveq: the script that stock kernels run if they find it to update grub *g* |
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| 19:15.47 | BrainDamage | i am waiting :-)))) |
| 19:15.53 | Eulex | paveq, -march=i386 -funroll-loops: Test 1: 3.74s (slightly slower) Test 2: 0.95 (slightly faster) Test 3: 0.32 (quite much faster) |
| 19:15.56 | lunitik | paveq: this isn't a Red Hat system... its NOT grub.conf!! |
| 19:16.04 | audi | Hi, i need known the server of a SIP program, how can i do it? (windows) |
| 19:16.13 | paveq | lunitik: actually, I'm running gentoo.... |
| 19:16.16 | paveq | :) |
| 19:16.20 | lunitik | paveq: on your fedora system, you will see that /etc/grub.conf and /boot/grub/grub.conf are symlinks... |
| 19:16.27 | lunitik | paveq: same thing more than likely |
| 19:16.44 | stew | drivamgr2006: i'd guess it's using a sync rate / resolution that your monitor refuses to display, you can see what it is using by hitting ctrl-alt-f2 to get to a new text console, log in, then run "DISPLAY=:0 xrandr", you could try selecting a different mode with xrandr, then switch back to the running x with ctrl-alt-f7 and see if its working |
| 19:16.50 | paveq | lunitik: but if you were talking about stock kernels.. |
| 19:17.03 | paveq | lunitik: anyways, I always compile my own one |
| 19:17.08 | paveq | never mind me :) |
| 19:17.11 | lunitik | paveq: awesome? |
| 19:17.14 | drivamgr2006 | ok stew - that sounds good |
| 19:17.23 | Eulex | paveq, on debian you do not have to edit grub.conf other than in special cases. |
| 19:17.24 | roler | lunitik; ok last question. I think I ran lilo and may have screwed up the mbr that grub had installed |
| 19:17.26 | lunitik | paveq: #gentoo ... most here will laugh at you for using Gentoo :/ |
| 19:17.34 | roler | lunitik; how can I make grub re-initalize the mbr? |
| 19:17.50 | Eulex | paveq, and it's menu.lst on debian |
| 19:17.53 | lunitik | roler: grub-install /dev/hda (for example) |
| 19:18.01 | paveq | lunitik: I just don't see point to use debian either, really, gentoo is not perfect :/ |
| 19:18.05 | stew | roler: is the system currently running? or will it not boot now as a result? |
| 19:18.22 | lunitik | paveq: then why are you in here? |
| 19:18.34 | paveq | lunitik: finding out whats with debian? |
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| 19:18.46 | reind | paveq thanks for the laugh =) |
| 19:18.57 | lunitik | paveq: there are plenty of docs at www.debian.org :/ |
| 19:18.57 | paveq | lunitik: because all other my schools sysadmins say that its better |
| 19:18.58 | roler | stew; yes its running |
| 19:18.58 | roler | stew; and no it may not boot. :) |
| 19:19.07 | binary_dreamer | hi |
| 19:19.13 | roler | stew; i am remote to the box. about 20 miles away. I do not want to drive to fix it. :) |
| 19:19.21 | lunitik | paveq: no need to troll here. |
| 19:19.35 | paveq | lunitik: where I'm trolling.. |
| 19:19.36 | binary_dreamer | how cn i remove a kernel that i am not using it, from my machine? |
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| 19:19.53 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, just apt-get remove it |
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| 19:20.14 | lunitik | paveq: paveq lunitik: I just don't see point to use debian either, really, gentoo is not perfect :/ <-- here for instance |
| 19:20.24 | roler | stew; grub-install? |
| 19:20.26 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, i did not installed it using the apt-get utility. i compiled it |
| 19:20.39 | paveq | lunitik: no distro is really good.. |
| 19:20.44 | stew | roler: yes, grub-install, note that if /boot is a separate partition you need to tell it on the command line |
| 19:20.53 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, did you use make-kpkg and then dpkg -i pkgname? |
| 19:20.54 | stew | roler: you may wanna read /usr/share/doc/grub/* |
| 19:21.03 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, yes |
| 19:21.21 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, then you have it installed as a package: do apt-get remove pkgname |
| 19:21.35 | g3brown | what diff b/w mkfs mke2fs ? |
| 19:21.43 | roler | thanks stew! |
| 19:21.45 | azaz_work | Is there a way to get dmesg to display date or do I have to less the actual log for that? |
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| 19:22.11 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, oh ok. that's all? do i have to run any other utility? what about grub? |
| 19:22.32 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, it will update menu.lst automatically. |
| 19:22.43 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, you won't have to do anything else |
| 19:22.48 | chipmonk010 | g3brown mkfs (ext2) mkfe2fs (ext3) i beleive |
| 19:22.52 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, thanks a lot |
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| 19:23.29 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, yw |
| 19:23.58 | azaz_work | g3brown: mkfs is simply a front-end for the various file system |
| 19:23.59 | azaz_work | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.26 | g3brown | Well with Sarge, what should I be using to format? |
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| 19:25.03 | chipmonk010 | g3brown i was incorrect azaz has it |
| 19:25.10 | stew | g3brown: what filesystem type are you trying to create? |
| 19:25.33 | azaz_work | g3brown: I think the normal convention nowadays is to use the mkfs versions. So for ext2 there is a mkfs.ext2 either use that directly or mkfs -t ext2 |
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| 19:25.36 | stew | g3brown: in general you want mkfs.$fstype where $fstype is ext2 ext3 vfat whatever |
| 19:26.06 | chipmonk010 | "mke2fs" is ext2 and "mke2fs -j" is ext3 |
| 19:26.16 | g3brown | stew: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/sdb1 ?? |
| 19:26.47 | stew | g3brown: that would work as well |
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| 19:27.36 | chugga | how do i force reinstall a package |
| 19:27.42 | stew | "mke2fs -j" and "mkfs.ext3" mand "mkfs -t ext3" are all equivalent |
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| 19:28.41 | mya | please, anybody can help me? |
| 19:28.55 | mya | i'm having problems with my gdm |
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| 19:29.05 | mya | the size font is too small |
| 19:29.12 | drivamgr2006 | Hallelujah!!! I have a gui! |
| 19:29.20 | mya | it's like a line drawed in the screen |
| 19:29.32 | drivamgr2006 | I had the XF86Config pointing at the wrong PCI Bus location! |
| 19:29.37 | Eulex | mya, hmm, what resolution |
| 19:29.39 | mya | anybody know i can fiz this problem |
| 19:29.50 | mya | 1024x768 |
| 19:29.54 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, hmm -- got several gfx cards? |
| 19:30.09 | drivamgr2006 | It was looking at PCI:0:10:0 and it should have been looking at PCI:0:02:0 |
| 19:30.14 | drivamgr2006 | no Eulex |
| 19:30.33 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, hmm, what have you got at PCI:0:10:0? |
| 19:30.44 | drivamgr2006 | I just read the error log in /var/log and it said Primary device is at 0:02:0 |
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| 19:31.02 | drivamgr2006 | I have absolutely NFI whats at 0:10:0 |
| 19:31.14 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, lspci? |
| 19:31.15 | smartmlp | can someone help me with this? |
| 19:31.23 | smartmlp | miniserv.pem: No such file or directory hostname: Unknown host |
| 19:31.33 | smartmlp | that happens when ever I do apt-get install webmin |
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| 19:32.10 | mya | Eulex, i tried to fiz changing the resolution, but nothing happend |
| 19:32.32 | Eulex | mya, have you enabled bitmap fonts? |
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| 19:32.46 | drivamgr2006 | Yep Eulex. Done it. I have a USB controller at 0:10:0 |
| 19:32.57 | drivamgr2006 | hence why I couldnt access my usb harddrive |
| 19:33.04 | g3brown | What is command to look at hard drive info? I know cat /proc/partitions. Any others? |
| 19:33.31 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, hmm, that's strange. it selected 0:10:0 for you? |
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| 19:33.36 | Eulex | g3brown, fdisk -l |
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| 19:33.46 | mya | Eulex, How Can I check This? |
| 19:34.16 | Eulex | mya, there should be some package you can dpkg-reconfigure; I don't remember the name of it though |
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| 19:35.10 | drivamgr2006 | yep |
| 19:35.40 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, that's strange. never seen that before. |
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| 19:36.18 | freeburd | does anyone know why i get the error "Mutex destroy failure: device or resource busy" and what, if anything, i can do about it? |
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| 19:36.39 | Sneaky_Bastard | not even remotely enough info, freeburd |
| 19:36.44 | Sneaky_Bastard | what were you doing at the time ? |
| 19:36.57 | cahoot | freeburd: kde - qt-app? |
| 19:37.01 | freeburd | sitting at an idle xterm |
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| 19:37.29 | drivamgr2006 | anyhow. job done, so I will get round now to doing what I need to do and get out of irssi! Thanks a lot for all your help, you have all been extremely patient with me. Take care and I will catch you all again soon |
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| 19:37.41 | mya | Eulex, thereis nothing in some conf file? |
| 19:37.42 | freeburd | the error is followed by this |
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| 19:38.00 | Eulex | mya, maybe. I dunno where |
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| 19:38.52 | freeburd | "ICE default IO error handler doing an exit(), pid = 10572, errno = 2" and they occur in xterm, while issuing no commands, just idle |
| 19:39.00 | astronut | how do i get firefox to recognize java? I have sun-j2re1.5 installed through make-jpkg |
| 19:39.21 | mya | Eulex, ok, thank you for trying to help me |
| 19:39.26 | mya | Eulex, very nice |
| 19:39.54 | astronut | mya: xserver-xorg IIRC |
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| 19:40.59 | mya | astronut, what it is? |
| 19:41.06 | astronut | mya: dpkg-reconfigure it |
| 19:41.09 | astronut | to change x settings |
| 19:41.17 | mya | astronut, I'm using xfree86 |
| 19:41.24 | astronut | oh |
| 19:41.27 | doooner | thank god I am away from pcl, how can I convert from .pdf file to .txt file, is any utility? |
| 19:41.30 | astronut | then xserver-xfree86 |
| 19:41.55 | mya | astronut, i tryed to reconfigure the package of my X server |
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| 19:42.04 | mya | astronut, but nothing happend also |
| 19:42.05 | astronut | mya: i missed the beggining |
| 19:42.24 | mya | astronut, i'm having problem with my gdm |
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| 19:42.50 | Eulex | mya, I wish I remembered what package is was... |
| 19:42.51 | mya | astronut, the font size is too small, like a line drawed in the screen |
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| 19:43.01 | mya | Eulex, What it is? |
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| 19:43.17 | astronut | mya: oh |
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| 19:43.41 | mya | Eulex, I will research about it |
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| 19:43.53 | mya | Eulex, and I come back to tell you |
| 19:43.57 | Eulex | mya, ah, I found it. dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig -- answer no to the question about bitmapped fonts |
| 19:44.09 | Eulex | I think. had a similar problem once. |
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| 19:44.26 | mya | Eulex, I will try this night |
| 19:44.35 | mya | Eulex, because i am in the office |
| 19:44.54 | mya | but I will check for that and come to greet you, rs |
| 19:45.39 | mya | thank Eulex anf astronut for some answers |
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| 19:45.48 | astronut | np |
| 19:45.49 | Swordxl | http://pastebin.com/475493 Help =) |
| 19:45.52 | mya | mya good night for you |
| 19:48.09 | tarzeau | haha |
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| 19:49.24 | doooner | how can I convert from .pdf file to .txt file, is any utility? Inside of the file is just only text |
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| 19:49.30 | kspath_ | yeah that was bad typo/braino combined |
| 19:49.49 | cahoot | doooner: pdftotext exists |
| 19:49.53 | tarzeau | doooner: yes there's plenty tools |
| 19:50.17 | Eulex | kspath, haha, I hope you got flooded ;P |
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| 19:51.31 | smartmlp | can someone help me with webmin |
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| 19:51.45 | kspath_ | Eulex: flooded is relative got tons of info I did not intend to get/want |
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| 19:51.51 | Eulex | hehe |
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| 19:54.06 | kspath_ | Eulex: on a side not however I see a dozen channel members have a sense of humour |
| 19:54.15 | kspath_ | note also |
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| 19:57.17 | binary_dreamer | hi |
| 19:57.23 | binary_dreamer | a quick question |
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| 19:58.40 | Petaris | Anyone here familiar with the debian ircd-hybrid and hybserv2 packages? |
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| 19:58.56 | binary_dreamer | i got a hard drive hda that has hda1 the windows (c), a second partion for windows (d), and a third for linux (hda5). could someone tell me the number for windows d? hdaX? |
| 19:59.13 | victorm | binary_dreamer: cat /proc/partitions |
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| 19:59.26 | deeLer | goodevening debianusers |
| 19:59.34 | victorm | That file should tell you about the partitions of your hard disks |
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| 20:00.56 | deeLer | what is the difference between "dpkg install" and "apt-get install" ? |
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| 20:01.32 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, fdisk -l should be easier to interpret than cat /proc/partitions |
| 20:01.33 | whisper | hello |
| 20:01.43 | whisper | do you keep logs of your IRC channel for public perusal? |
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| 20:02.04 | victorm | Eulex: Thanks, you're right |
| 20:02.14 | Gumby` | does anyone here have an iPod? Looking for a frontend in Linux that will work with it. OR is it possible to just upload music to the ipods iPod_Control/music directory? |
| 20:02.28 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, it is hda2. thanks. |
| 20:02.30 | Eulex | deeLer, apt-get install handles dependencies dpkg --install doesn't |
| 20:02.42 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, but i got a problem mounting it |
| 20:02.54 | Eulex | Gumby`, try gtkpod |
| 20:02.56 | deeLer | Eulex, all i needed to know thx |
| 20:03.02 | Maulkin | Petaris: Fairly. |
| 20:03.12 | Gumby` | Eulex: thx |
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| 20:03.19 | victorm | binary_dreamer: What kind of problem? |
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| 20:03.45 | g3brown | What is a logical place to mount extra drives? /usr/hd/sdb1/ /usr/hd/sdc1/ ? I don't think linux yet :) |
| 20:04.00 | blondie | /u1, /u2, /u3 etc |
| 20:04.03 | blondie | is what I use |
| 20:04.04 | victorm | g3brown: /mnt/whatever |
| 20:04.15 | victorm | If ti's removable media: /media/whatever |
| 20:04.29 | binary_dreamer | victorm, i created my fstab and then i used a shortcut tomy desktop to access it. unfortunatelly it does not work. both hda1 and hda2 are ntfs. |
| 20:04.34 | Petaris | Maulkin: I've been having trouble getting hybserv to connect to ircd-hybrid, do you have a few minutes to help my troubleshoot |
| 20:04.54 | binary_dreamer | victorm, the syntax is:/dev/hda2 /mnt/win_d ntfs rw,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 20:05.14 | victorm | binary_dreamer: It simply can't moutn them? |
| 20:05.25 | victorm | Or do you have other kind of problems? |
| 20:05.34 | Eulex | !read-ntfs |
| 20:05.34 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 20:05.51 | Andy15226 | how do i change the domain of my server (deb) |
| 20:06.06 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, you have to make it readable by the user |
| 20:06.10 | binary_dreamer | victorm, yes |
| 20:06.14 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, how |
| 20:06.20 | victorm | It's what Eulex is saying |
| 20:06.32 | victorm | NTFS filesystems don't care about Unix-like permissions |
| 20:06.37 | Eulex | !accessible ntfs |
| 20:06.46 | Eulex | bah |
| 20:06.50 | Eulex | !user accessible ntfs |
| 20:06.51 | dpkg | To get an NTFS or VFAT file system accessible by users and groups on the local machine, man mount; man 5 fstab; and read about the umask, fmask, dmask, uid, and gid options. You'll end up sticking something like conv=auto,uid=<user>,gid=<group>,dmask=0002,fmask=0003 into your fstab's mount option field |
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| 20:07.04 | binary_dreamer | victorm, how do i do that? what do i have to do to have read and write access to ntfs! i know its dangerous |
| 20:07.19 | victorm | No, it's not write access |
| 20:07.19 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, read what dpkg has said. |
| 20:07.41 | Petaris | brb |
| 20:07.48 | victorm | It's simply telling the FS which user "owns" the files in the drive |
| 20:08.06 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, i did that. the thing is that i am kinda stuck to find out what is the users uid and stuff. how do i get it? |
| 20:08.19 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, write access on ntfs is limited to modifying small files without changing the size of them. |
| 20:08.22 | victorm | binary_dreamer: Read the last dpkg message |
| 20:08.32 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, run id. |
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| 20:09.36 | Andy15226 | how do i change the domain of my server (deb) |
| 20:09.37 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, it gives me: uid=1000(aris) gid=1000(aris) groups=20(dialout),24(cdrom),25(floppy),29(audio),44(video),46(plugdev),1000(aris) |
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| 20:11.09 | mentor | Andy15226: DNS domain? |
| 20:11.17 | Andy15226 | yeah |
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| 20:11.44 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, that and dpkg's advice should be enough to find out what you need to put in you fstab. btw, aris is short for aristotelis, right? /me had a greek in his class some time ago |
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| 20:11.48 | sohmestra | Andy15226: what is its domain name currently? |
| 20:11.51 | mentor | Andy15226: Add an appropriate hostname entry to the relevant DNS zone, and then change the search line in /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 20:11.59 | MishMash | Hi guys i'm back :) |
| 20:12.09 | mentor | We missed you immensely |
| 20:12.11 | mentor | :P |
| 20:12.14 | MishMash | :P |
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| 20:12.22 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, similar to that. i am aris short of aristeidis. not big difference. |
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| 20:12.49 | MishMash | I'm currently running a hardware raid-5 setup with 3 10k SCSI discs. But i want to be able to add or remove drives without losing data or something |
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| 20:13.17 | MishMash | is that possible with raid 5? if not, what should i use? |
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| 20:13.20 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, ah. |
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| 20:14.11 | Andy15226 | search domain.com |
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| 20:14.14 | Andy15226 | that right? |
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| 20:14.22 | blondie | Andy15226: right for what? |
| 20:14.42 | Andy15226 | changing the domain in deb? |
| 20:14.58 | nipra | While upgrading I'm being asked to stop the service "gdm" manually.How can I do that? |
| 20:15.02 | blondie | in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 20:15.10 | Andy15226 | yeah |
| 20:15.14 | stew | nipra: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 20:15.17 | blondie | yes |
| 20:15.20 | Andy15226 | :) |
| 20:15.23 | blondie | search domain |
| 20:15.27 | blondie | nameserver blah |
| 20:16.00 | stew | MishMash: the depends completely on your raid hardware |
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| 20:16.12 | JJK | Hello, I've a problem with apt. I've updated my sources.list, because my mirror didn't work very well. First I commented out all entries, so I got a fresh list. Then I added the new mirror. but it gives everytime "Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) |
| 20:16.12 | JJK | " errors. So I tried with another one, same, a third mirror: same. |
| 20:16.19 | stew | MishMash: its possible on many newer raid controllers and few old raid controllers |
| 20:16.22 | JJK | does anyone know what happens? |
| 20:16.30 | fndude | I would like to capture the commands that I run, along with the output of those commands, and capture that to a file each day, to show a record of work. Is there a facility already in place for this? |
| 20:16.38 | stew | JJK: try using apt-setup |
| 20:16.58 | JJK | stew, okay. Do I have to clear sources.list first? |
| 20:17.13 | Andy15226 | can anyone advise with samba? :) |
| 20:17.16 | stew | fndude: man script |
| 20:17.19 | stew | JJK: no |
| 20:17.19 | blondie | Andy15226: maybe |
| 20:17.20 | blondie | :P |
| 20:17.21 | fndude | ty |
| 20:17.28 | Andy15226 | blondie PM? |
| 20:17.33 | blondie | ask in here ;p |
| 20:17.42 | Andy15226 | :( ok |
| 20:17.46 | blondie | or #samba |
| 20:17.47 | blondie | o.o |
| 20:17.51 | Andy15226 | i get lost in convo! :) |
| 20:17.55 | Andy15226 | no response from samba! |
| 20:18.00 | JJK | stew: command not found :S |
| 20:18.27 | stew | JJK: its in /usr/sbin/ |
| 20:18.34 | stew | JJK: you need to run it as root |
| 20:19.08 | JJK | stew: I did: su -c "apt-setup" << Has to work afaik, but I'll put /usr/sbin in front of it |
| 20:19.12 | MishMash | stew, i do have a pretty new raid controller, the Compaq smart 64x controller |
| 20:19.44 | JJK | stew, bash: /usr/sbin/apt-setup: No such file or directory << |
| 20:20.23 | cr3 | is there somekind of program that can queue notifications and then be able to make requests on that queue, like 'clear', 'state', 'add', 'delete', etc.? |
| 20:20.40 | row | is there a tool in debian archives to convert .srt subs to .idx/.sub format? |
| 20:20.47 | cr3 | the reason I ask is that I would like that kind of software to notify me of new mail messages or new irc messages. |
| 20:21.25 | JJK | stew, FYI: I'm running unstable |
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| 20:24.08 | deeLer | the recent update r1: does it support more diskcontrollers/raid controllers or is there no new install image ? |
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| 20:25.52 | learnfromscratch | huh.. i want to install gtk to learn the hello world gtk stuff.. and more .. so i did apt-cache search gtk | less to figure out which package to install .. it reports too many.. can some one tell me a better way to screen for a package that i need to install |
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| 20:26.39 | Eclipser | how would I bind an extra button from my mouse to do something else(tm)? |
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| 20:28.07 | drivamgr2006 | *sigh* |
| 20:28.14 | Blissex | Eclipser: well, you have to get them recognized by X, which is easy (online HOWTO/tutorials abound), and then it depends entirely on your desktop environment/window manager |
| 20:28.14 | azaz_work | learnfromscratch: /msg dpkg gtk |
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| 20:28.39 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, i tried to find out about fstab, but all i get is the same error |
| 20:28.43 | drivamgr2006 | its all gone flat. I rebooted after cleaning the inside of my machine and my changes have gone. I am stuck in Runlvl2 again |
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| 20:29.16 | drivamgr2006 | When I try to start the x server now, it just says that it cannot find the default font, fixed. What is the font path for X on debian? |
| 20:29.32 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, what is "the same error"? |
| 20:29.48 | stew | !find bin/apt-setup unstable |
| 20:30.07 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, it tells me: could not mount device. only root can mount |
| 20:30.11 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'bin/apt-setup' returned no results. |
| 20:30.26 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, what's your fs? and how did you shut it down? |
| 20:30.30 | learnfromscratch | what is the equvalent to /msg dpkg gtk in my system command line.. locally ? |
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| 20:30.44 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, if it's in fstab users can mount it. |
| 20:30.50 | stew | what the heck!?! apt-set was removed from base-config? |
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| 20:31.03 | drivamgr2006 | Ext3 Eulex, and I shutdown with command powerdown from the console |
| 20:31.06 | binary_dreamer | Eulex, do u want to see the fstab? |
| 20:31.33 | drivamgr2006 | sorry not powerdown, poweroff Eulex |
| 20:31.47 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, ok |
| 20:32.03 | Eulex | binary_dreamer, yep. and what command are you running as a user to mount it? |
| 20:32.12 | JJK | stew, I found out. But I've installed the stable version, and reset my sources.list using that one. After setting up a dist-upgrade, and most is fine now. Thanks. |
| 20:32.39 | stew | !maint base-config |
| 20:32.41 | dpkg | base-config: Debian Install System Team <debian-boot@lists.debian.org> |
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| 20:33.02 | bcc | is there a way to access sound through a remove x session? |
| 20:33.09 | drivamgr2006 | All I need to know is, within debian, where are all the font files kept? |
| 20:33.23 | drivamgr2006 | Cause I can't find them |
| 20:33.34 | Eulex | bcc, X doesn't handle sound |
| 20:33.44 | bcc | Eulex: yeah, i thought so |
| 20:33.48 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, dpkg -L pkgname |
| 20:34.05 | Eulex | bcc, might be possible with a shoutcasting audio server though |
| 20:34.43 | bcc | Eulex: nah, that's cool. i was just wondering if there is an easy way, but that's not important |
| 20:35.46 | Swordxl | * The "make config" step is now DEPRECATED. Most * |
| 20:35.46 | Swordxl | * server options are now configurable via the configuration * |
| 20:35.46 | Swordxl | * file using F-lines; the rest are specified on the command * |
| 20:35.46 | Swordxl | * line to "./configure". To aid the transition, a shell * |
| 20:35.46 | Swordxl | * script has been provided to generate the necessary * |
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| 20:42.24 | hid3 | Evening everyne. I run an ftp server on debian with 2.6 kernel. Sometimes, when server is loaded, I see 'wa' using all my cpu power. However, this happens only sometimes. Is there any way to find out what causes it to use cpu so much? |
| 20:42.35 | tenner | hi, i am on etch and get a segfault with 'apt-get upgrade'. what i wonder about is, why can i still use all apt-* actions except for this one |
| 20:43.13 | tenner | although i dont know why i get a segfault |
| 20:44.25 | diana_ | Why isn't firefox 1.5 in etch? |
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| 20:47.20 | cheal | !tell diana_ about why is firefox not in testing |
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| 20:48.37 | Eclipser | Blissex, thanks, now I can go backwards from the extra button in firefox :p |
| 20:49.00 | Blissex | Eclipser: uhmmmm :-) |
| 20:49.09 | Blissex | Eclipser: was it worth it? |
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| 20:51.03 | cheal | tenner: probably because the apt-get update's problem doesn't affect the rest of apt-get |
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| 20:54.52 | tenner | cheal: any quick suggestion to fix it? |
| 20:55.04 | jmstacey | Is it a security risk to have ifconfig's permissions allow regular users to exeute it? |
| 20:55.32 | SlayerXP | jmstacey: the default is that any user can execute it |
| 20:55.38 | cheal | tenner: no. look at the BTS |
| 20:55.40 | grochap | jmstacey, I think yes |
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| 20:55.48 | blondie | grochap: no |
| 20:55.49 | jmstacey | Correct, so it that a security risk? |
| 20:55.54 | blondie | no |
| 20:55.55 | tenner | well, thanks anyway |
| 20:56.15 | grochap | blondie, why? |
| 20:56.19 | jmstacey | blondie: Was that to me, no it's not a seciruty risk? |
| 20:56.20 | blondie | why is it? |
| 20:56.21 | SlayerXP | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:56.31 | SlayerXP | your |
| 20:56.32 | jmstacey | I haven't found anything to point eitherway |
| 20:56.32 | blondie | jmstacey: yes it was |
| 20:56.37 | blondie | it's not a security risk |
| 20:56.40 | bonez39 | anyone else having difficulty, runnign debian sarge and getting OO2 installed? |
| 20:57.02 | blondie | users can't change anything |
| 20:57.11 | blondie | they can just see the network interface settings |
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| 20:58.04 | Eclipser | Blissex, well yes, as I had gotten used to it on my other box (which has windows and the same mouse) |
| 20:58.07 | grochap | blondie, I don't think that... |
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| 20:58.48 | blondie | grochap: what do you mean? |
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| 20:59.15 | grochap | blondie, security is more than tecnicall solutions |
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| 20:59.57 | blondie | grochap: I don't know what that means, but there is NO security risk from having ifconfig executable by users |
| 21:00.26 | grochap | blondie, and a user known your Ip adress can talk to anybody, and... |
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| 21:00.55 | blondie | grochap: if a user can login to the system they can get the IP address other ways |
| 21:01.27 | blondie | they can get the IP address without logging in most of the time :P |
| 21:01.38 | grochap | blondie, ok, is correct |
| 21:02.06 | Tepes^ | nu pot sa setez apache+php... ma poate ajuta cineva? (I can't set apache+php... anyone can help me?) =.prv.= |
| 21:02.28 | blondie | speak english and in channel |
| 21:02.44 | Tepes^ | ok |
| 21:02.46 | grochap | blondie, but I think the users don't can know nothing ! :D |
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| 21:02.57 | blondie | grochap: er |
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| 21:03.03 | grochap | blondie, about the network |
| 21:03.30 | netcrusher88 | is suspend2 in the default kernel, and just requires some kind of thing to enable it, or do i need to recompile thekernel? |
| 21:03.33 | grochap | blondie, only where is the TI sector and phone. |
| 21:03.51 | blondie | you don't users to know any network settings? |
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| 21:04.13 | grochap | blondie, I think so... |
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| 21:04.36 | blondie | !ubuntu |
| 21:04.36 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 21:04.39 | blondie | :P |
| 21:04.48 | drivamgr2006 | OK. Still going round in circles like a headless chicken, so next question. I know people say that XOrg is not suported on Sarge, but do any debian installs support XOrg at all? |
| 21:04.53 | netcrusher88 | !hibernate |
| 21:04.58 | netcrusher88 | nope |
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| 21:05.04 | netcrusher88 | !suspend |
| 21:05.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, suspend is check http://sourceforge.net/projects/swsusp/ , no apm nor acpi is required or suspend2 (msg dpkg about - works for me beautifully!!) |
| 21:05.06 | ubuntu | :) |
| 21:05.24 | thingfish | !tell drivamgr2006 about xorg sarge |
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| 21:05.27 | blondie | drivamgr2006: yes, testing and unstable |
| 21:05.46 | drivamgr2006 | Oh well that lets me out. |
| 21:05.48 | drivamgr2006 | :) |
| 21:05.56 | amphi | drivamgr2006: I'm running the sarge xorg backport here, it works well |
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| 21:07.59 | drivamgr2006 | I think I also need a better Kernel. I am on a 2.4 kernel here, but need a 2.6 to make some of my stuff work. udev doesnt work, neither does hal. I have seen kernel images in aptitude, but are they actual kernels or toolkit for building your own? |
| 21:08.15 | drivamgr2006 | I have a P4/Xeon 2.4ghx hre |
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| 21:08.22 | nkuttler | drivamgr2006: /msg dpkg kp |
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| 21:08.31 | drivamgr2006 | thanks nkuttler |
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| 21:09.18 | embrik | how do i configure rollerwheel on my mouse |
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| 21:09.31 | Tepes^ | any guru here to help me? i'm a spermatozoid with debian... help me to become a kid ;) i want to set apache, php amd mysql... |
| 21:09.33 | The_Ball | I have setup a raid5 with 3x320 sata 150 disks and get 65Mb/s copying to /dev/null with %20 load, are these values normal? |
| 21:09.39 | Antaro | Hi all I have a strange problem with the gnome menu. I click on it ones and it opens and closes in less then a second. Other menus work fine its only the aplication menu |
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| 21:10.02 | nkuttler | Tepes^: apt-cache search foo, apt-get install bar, read /usr/share/doc/bar/* |
| 21:10.05 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: for a start: apt-get install apache |
| 21:10.24 | cat | !info bar |
| 21:10.32 | cat | lol |
| 21:10.41 | nkuttler | !bar |
| 21:10.41 | dpkg | it has been said that bar is a metasyntactic variable in cahoots with foo, baz, and boo. |
| 21:10.45 | rajulocal | Are there any alternatives available for scanning wireless networks? iwlist scan does not work for me due to http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=344349 . Any other alternatives? |
| 21:10.56 | nkuttler | boo... didn't know that one |
| 21:11.16 | Tepes^ | i inspall apache, php and mysql... if i remove index.html and put there index.php (with phpinfo()) appear Index of / |
| 21:11.18 | embrik | whict file do I edit to cofigure the rollerwheel on my mouse? |
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| 21:11.57 | nkuttler | Tepes^: apt-cache search libapache php |
| 21:12.07 | FourierSeries | Tepes^: that's easy for you to say. |
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| 21:13.11 | nkuttler | embrik: did you check if it's in the faq? |
| 21:13.22 | amphi | rajulocal: kismet ? |
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| 21:13.34 | Nippoo | what happens if you startx from an ssh client, what happens? |
| 21:14.05 | Nippoo | err |
| 21:14.05 | cheal | embrik: most likely /etc/X11/x config file |
| 21:14.06 | Nippoo | take off the last two words :) |
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| 21:14.06 | root | u cant |
| 21:14.06 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: X starts on the remote host |
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| 21:14.06 | Nippoo | oh right |
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| 21:14.13 | Nippoo | how do you set up X forwarding? |
| 21:14.16 | rajulocal | amphi: Looking into kismet. Thanks. will get back if there is a problem. |
| 21:14.22 | Nippoo | (or is it set up by default?) |
| 21:14.24 | nkuttler | Nippoo: /msg dpkg sshx |
| 21:14.50 | tuv | rajulocal: use 2.6.12 kernel |
| 21:14.53 | Antaro | great xorg 7 has released :) now to wait for the debs :) |
| 21:14.58 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, you shouldn't compile your own kernel if you don't really have to. use a kernel image if you can. |
| 21:15.01 | kspath | Nippoo: tends to be stopped by default |
| 21:15.11 | Tepes^ | nkuttler: what i need to install? (libapache-mod-php4, php4-cgi, libapache-mod-suphp) |
| 21:15.26 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: the first is fine |
| 21:15.31 | kspath | Nippo: set up xserver config and check out xhost command and DISPLAY and export |
| 21:15.38 | nukeu666 | tepes:1st one |
| 21:15.38 | rajulocal | tuv: Are you suggesting 2.6.12 as an alternative because of the bug? |
| 21:15.41 | kspath | Nippo: set up sshd config and check out xhost command and DISPLAY and export |
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| 21:16.07 | tuv | rajulocal: yes. i suppose the bug is not applicable for 2.6.12 kernel |
| 21:16.48 | Tepes^ | Sorry, libapache-mod-php4 is already the newest version. |
| 21:16.51 | kspath | Nippoo: I used to do it everyday for a few years years ago when I ran numerous Solaris servers have not done that regularly for years now |
| 21:16.54 | Tepes^ | so... other way? |
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| 21:17.11 | nkuttler | Tepes^: /usr/share/doc/libapache-mod-php4 would be a good place to start |
| 21:17.22 | nkuttler | Tepes^: or read the apache config |
| 21:17.24 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: does http://localhost/index.php work ? |
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| 21:17.46 | nukeu666 | tepes:did you restart apache? |
| 21:18.14 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: apear "Index of /" and show me index.php file |
| 21:18.17 | ttask | I am running spamassassin and I've tested a exim4 .forward which puts marked spam in a kmail subfolder named spam. It appears the mail indexing in kmail doesn't automatically update so is there a command to run? My reason for trying this is that I would like to have a GUI front end for sorting maildir mail into seperate ham/spam folders so I can run sa-learn against them. If there is a better channel suited for this question please let me know. |
| 21:18.17 | Tepes^ | nukeu666: yes |
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| 21:18.47 | rajulocal | tuv: Ok. Will try to switch to testing then. Only testing seems to have 2.6.12 |
| 21:19.21 | gregorovius | is it common that the linux-image-2.6.14 package updates itself when I do apt-get upgrade? |
| 21:19.24 | smacnay | does anyone have trouble with the sym53c8xx (scsi card) module in the 2.6.x kernels? I know there is a bug but am wondering if it has been fixed in the more recent kernels? |
| 21:19.24 | tuv | rajulocal: u can download 2.6.12 .deb kernel pakages off pakages.debian.org without swithing to testing |
| 21:19.31 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: ähmm.. does http://localhost/index.php <= not .html work ? |
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| 21:20.18 | rajulocal | tuv: Yes. I forgot that |
| 21:20.19 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: .html work... but .php no |
| 21:20.22 | nkuttler | gregorovius: sure, it happens sometimes |
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| 21:21.07 | tuv | rajulocal: r u using madwifi? |
| 21:21.16 | gregorovius | knuttler: I thought kernel images wouldn't have sub-versions |
| 21:21.18 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: are you on apache2 or apache 1.3 ? |
| 21:21.37 | gregorovius | besides, it's urging me to reboot and I don't like that much |
| 21:21.38 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: apache 1.3 ... how can i see my version? |
| 21:21.40 | nkuttler | gregorovius: i think that's only true for stable |
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| 21:22.31 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: aptitude => search for apache. Do you have a file called /etc/apache/conf.d/php4.conf ? |
| 21:22.36 | Spec | hehe, i turned in an english final a month late, 2 pages short, and 2 sources short, and still received an A =P |
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| 21:22.53 | Spec | and for that, I love debian |
| 21:23.18 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: yes... i have that file |
| 21:23.20 | ubuntuwins | c'e' qualche sviluppatore debian? |
| 21:23.45 | rajulocal | tuv: Yes. I am using madwifi |
| 21:23.47 | thingfish | !it |
| 21:23.47 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 21:24.15 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: try "grep conf.d /etc/apache/httpd.conf" |
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| 21:25.01 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: nothing happend |
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| 21:25.57 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: add the line "Include /etc/apache/conf.d" at the end of the /etc/apache/httpd.conf and restart apache (/etc/init.d/apache restart) |
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| 21:28.51 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: nothing's change |
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| 21:30.10 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: did you really restart apache ? |
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| 21:30.28 | rrk_ | anyone round for help with udev and software raid -- can not make /dev/md0 stay across a reboot |
| 21:30.41 | SlayerXP | what's will all the udev questions recently? |
| 21:30.44 | SlayerXP | with all |
| 21:30.50 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: sure "Include /etc/apache/conf.d" or "Include /etc/apache/conf.d/php4.conf" |
| 21:31.04 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: ofcourse i restart apache |
| 21:31.09 | rrk_ | it is new and painful but better than devfs |
| 21:31.18 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: /etc/apache/conf.d version. And w/o the "-Signs. |
| 21:31.23 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
| 21:31.27 | SlayerXP | rrk_: udev is an ugly stupid moronic hack. don't use it and all your problems will go away. |
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| 21:31.51 | rrk_ | nice idea but it is here to stay |
| 21:31.54 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: yes... without " |
| 21:32.17 | SlayerXP | rrk_: well, until you get fed up of asking questions that we get fed up of answering |
| 21:32.25 | SlayerXP | i.e." why is udev so pathetic?" |
| 21:32.36 | FourierSeries | !udev |
| 21:32.36 | dpkg | hmm... udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , or broken and shit, or <stew> anymous: its not a trojan, its udev |
| 21:32.45 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: And /etc/apache/conf.d/php4.mod starts with "<IfModule mod_php4..." ? |
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| 21:32.58 | pigor | hello |
| 21:33.07 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: do u want to send u httpd.conf and php4.mod? |
| 21:33.45 | pigor | i have a network problem - can you help me please or is there another channel where i should go? |
| 21:34.12 | pumpkin0 | pigor: depends on the problem. just ask |
| 21:34.13 | SlayerXP | Piggy: no-one can help you if you can't ask your question clearly and concisely. |
| 21:34.13 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: yes... start with... |
| 21:34.21 | SlayerXP | err |
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| 21:34.26 | SlayerXP | pigor: no-one can help you if you can't ask your question clearly and concisely. |
| 21:34.30 | pigor | i have installed a wiki on my localhost, port 8080 -- it works but just from inside |
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| 21:35.04 | pigor | from outside (<ip>:8080) there is no response from my server |
| 21:35.05 | rrk_ | has anyone seen a udev rule set for a md0 software raid device |
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| 21:35.37 | nkuttler | pigor: what wiki? |
| 21:35.47 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: send now |
| 21:35.56 | SlayerXP | pigor: have you configured your router to redirect that port? or have you configured apache to listen on both the network addresses? |
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| 21:35.58 | pigor | the "MoinMoin-Wiki" |
| 21:35.59 | rrk_ | ssh into an outside box and scan 8080 chances are it is closed |
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| 21:36.21 | nkuttler | pigor: why don't you run moin on port 80? |
| 21:36.27 | SlayerXP | rrk_: yes "don't ise udev" in an excellent ruleset |
| 21:36.31 | SlayerXP | use |
| 21:36.33 | nkuttler | pigor: through apache? |
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| 21:36.56 | pumpkin0 | Tepes^: These 3 files should contain all php-related config. |
| 21:37.02 | pigor | SlayerXP: my router is configured - how can i configure apache to listen "on both the network addresses" ? |
| 21:37.16 | pigor | nkuttler: yes , apache |
| 21:37.18 | nkuttler | pigor: you read the apache config file |
| 21:37.24 | Tepes^ | pumpkin0: tnx |
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| 21:37.30 | SlayerXP | pigor: by reading and understanding the apache docs |
| 21:37.47 | pigor | nkuttler: ähem.. don't know how to run it on port 80 |
| 21:37.58 | nkuttler | pigor: apache runs on port 80 |
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| 21:38.09 | nkuttler | pigor: no need to have anything on port 8080 to use moin |
| 21:38.25 | rrk_ | just set a port fowarding rule on the firewall / router to redirect 80 to 8080 internal |
| 21:38.30 | spatulasnout | hi, is "make-kpkg kernel-image" normally enough to handle building the <M>odules for the kernel? Under what circumstances would I need the "module" related targets for make-kpkg? |
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| 21:38.48 | Andy0516 | how do i change the hostname + domain of my box? |
| 21:39.15 | Nippoo | where is the "kernel source tree" in a default install of Sarge? |
| 21:39.16 | nkuttler | spatulasnout: for modules outside of the kernel source tree |
| 21:39.19 | Nippoo | (sorry for my ignorance) |
| 21:39.24 | rrk_ | in the hosts file |
| 21:39.36 | spatulasnout | nkuttler: ahh..! ok, thx! :) |
| 21:39.40 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: /usr/src/linux |
| 21:40.12 | Andy0516 | 127.0.0.1webserver |
| 21:40.15 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: install it first with apt-get install kernel-source-Version-you-want |
| 21:40.25 | Andy0516 | where do i put domain? |
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| 21:41.23 | rrk_ | 192.168.1.192 bina_crm.clarkconnect.lan bina_crm |
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| 21:41.38 | pigor | nkuttler: ok .. apache server listens on 80, but the wiki listens on 8080 -- why cant react the wiki to <ip:8080> ? |
| 21:41.49 | Andy0516 | ok |
| 21:42.13 | Orlino | 2 minutes ago I have /root and now I don't, any hints please? |
| 21:42.34 | pumpkin0 | Orlino: rm -rf /* ? |
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| 21:42.59 | Orlino | pumpkin0: did not even use rm |
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| 21:43.21 | Nippoo | pumpkin0: I need to enable i2c, video4linux in the kernel. How do I do that? |
| 21:43.27 | pumpkin0 | Orlino: did you unmount something ? |
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| 21:43.38 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: stock or self-compiled kernel ? |
| 21:43.51 | nkuttler | pigor: i don't get you. last time i checked moin just wanted an Alias and ScriptAlias or something like that in the apache config. |
| 21:44.10 | Nippoo | well it's a fresh Sarge install |
| 21:44.19 | nkuttler | pigor: did you configure virtual hosts or what? |
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| 21:44.29 | Orlino | pumpkin0: no, was trying to move a file then realized /root was gone |
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| 21:44.45 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:44.45 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 21:45.15 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: use the lastest kernel-image. Do a "modprode <your-tv-card-module>". That should load everything as needed. |
| 21:45.18 | pigor | nkuttler: .. i think it is the best for me to read the apache-doc first .. thank you for your help |
| 21:45.34 | rotty | is there a free decoder for real media videos? |
| 21:45.37 | pumpkin0 | Orlino: did you mv /root to somethere else ? |
| 21:46.00 | Orlino | pumpkin0: not as far as i know, I was moving x to /root |
| 21:46.06 | pumpkin0 | Orlino: try: find -iname "root" / |
| 21:46.14 | nkuttler | pigor: try http://wiki.tmda.net/MoinMoin/InstallationsAnleitung#head-cd23dfc430be1466fa023cc08dcdc228278fd7c8 |
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| 21:47.13 | nkuttler | rotty: afaik mplayer can do that with the right codecs |
| 21:47.27 | rotty | without w32codecs? |
| 21:47.35 | pumpkin0 | rotty: nope |
| 21:47.37 | nkuttler | rotty: no. define free |
| 21:47.49 | rotty | we're on #debian, right? ;) |
| 21:47.51 | pmitros | I am going to Africa (no Internet), and taking along a complete set of Debian CDs (to install a buncha places). Is there anything I should know that may come as a suprise to one who normally does netinstalls? Anything I should grab beyond the 14 Debian/stable CDs? |
| 21:48.08 | Nippoo | pumpkin0: totally inexperienced, what would be the module name for my tv card? |
| 21:48.09 | rotty | (DFSG-free) |
| 21:48.20 | nkuttler | rotty: don't think so |
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| 21:48.36 | pmitros | And am I correct in assuming the ISOs do not include non-free or contrib? |
| 21:48.38 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: which card do you have ? try "lspci -v -v | less" |
| 21:48.50 | pumpkin0 | pmitros: do you know debmirror ? |
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| 21:49.01 | pmitros | pumpkin: No. I was using jigdo... |
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| 21:50.04 | pumpkin0 | pmitros: debmirror creates a new complet (huge) debian mirror. Should contain everything and you don't need the CDs. |
| 21:50.34 | Orlino | pumpkin0: found it |
| 21:50.52 | cheal | pmitros: the netinst does contain at least some contrib package(s) |
| 21:51.02 | poli | Is there Prism3 support (wi-fi PCMCIA) support in d-i? |
| 21:51.04 | Nippoo | Brooktree Corporation Bt848 Video Capture Card (rev 12) |
| 21:51.10 | pumpkin0 | Orlino: moving root is not that bad. But /lib, /sbin and /bin really hurst. |
| 21:51.29 | nkuttler | pmitros: you may want to bring some unofficial packages as well. like oo2, marillat stuff etc |
| 21:52.06 | nkuttler | poli: i think that requires non-free firmware |
| 21:52.11 | Orlino | pumpkin0: ok yeah I can imagine |
| 21:52.14 | nkuttler | poli: so no |
| 21:52.17 | pmitros | pumpkin: I think I need it on CDs, since I'll be installing on other machines. |
| 21:52.21 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: the module is called: BTTV |
| 21:52.34 | rafx | when should we choose to create a system group vs normal group? the man pages & docs describes this related to 'user'--but doesn't describe what is different when it comes to group |
| 21:52.34 | diana_ | In 7 days firefox 1.5 will go into testing? |
| 21:53.02 | streuner | diana_: /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing? |
| 21:53.07 | blondie | will we live, or will we die? |
| 21:53.23 | pmitros | Running off for a bit. |
| 21:53.27 | zOap | is there a nice screen camera available? One that can record the screen output? |
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| 21:53.33 | pumpkin0 | pmitros: you can do netinstalls with these mirrors. But you should also get the non-free stuff. and sources if you ever have to recompile something |
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| 21:54.04 | pmitros | pumpkin: Sources. Good idea. |
| 21:54.15 | pmitros | pumpkin: I'll definitely need some of those. |
| 21:54.16 | pumpkin0 | pmitros: and some kernel images, old and new ones. |
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| 21:55.18 | pmitros | pumpkin: Kernel source will be adequate. Gotta run. Just got a critical phone call. Thanks a bunch |
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| 21:55.54 | drivamgr2006 | Hello #debian! Thank you everyone who has put up with me in the last 24 hours, I have been a pain in the giblets. However, I do need one last favour. I have my x server up and working, but no mouse in it. My mouse is a USB Logitech 2 button + click scroll wheel. How do I set that up? |
| 21:56.21 | eeyore- | what gets your vote as favourite cdr burning program? i use old standby cdrecord but i'm getting tired of the "unmaintained" "buggy kernel" warnings, etc. |
| 21:56.27 | eeyore- | i'm trying k3b now |
| 21:56.30 | cat | drivamgr2006: do this as root /etc/init.d/hotplug restart; and see if you're usb mouse starts |
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| 21:56.38 | sohmestra | what does your current x config look like? |
| 21:56.41 | pumpkin0 | eeyore-: cdtaost |
| 21:56.41 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: i like k3b |
| 21:56.46 | tarzeau | eeyore-: cdrecord/cdrdao |
| 21:56.47 | nukeu666 | k3b is good |
| 21:56.51 | Nippoo | how do I find out my current kernel revision? |
| 21:56.53 | tarzeau | i hate k3b |
| 21:56.54 | drivamgr2006 | ok cat - thanks |
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| 21:56.57 | SerajewelKS | Nippoo: uname -a |
| 21:56.59 | nukeu666 | nippoo:uname -a |
| 21:57.07 | sohmestra | drivamgr2006: you might want to do: modprobe usbmouse |
| 21:57.17 | eeyore- | i seem to spend all my time in kde now (yes, again :-) |
| 21:57.18 | diana_ | Does debian have a legal channel? |
| 21:57.18 | Supaplex | Nippoo: or man uname. technically it's uname -r |
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| 21:57.25 | Nippoo | kk thanks :) |
| 21:57.27 | tarzeau | diana_: no |
| 21:57.33 | eeyore- | diana_: what do you mean "legal"? |
| 21:57.33 | abrotman | eeyore-: eroaster! .. gnomebaker! .. graveman! |
| 21:57.34 | tarzeau | diana_: well there is #debian-nonfree |
| 21:57.39 | abrotman | !legal |
| 21:57.40 | dpkg | who cares? |
| 21:57.41 | tarzeau | eeyore-: like the list debian-legal |
| 21:57.42 | abrotman | bastyard |
| 21:57.42 | eeyore- | abrotman: graveman? |
| 21:57.47 | diana_ | lol |
| 21:57.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: can you install it tonight? |
| 21:57.51 | abrotman | diana_: email debian-legal@lists.debian.org |
| 21:57.51 | Ronin | diana_: legal as in official? |
| 21:57.56 | abrotman | tarzeau: aw hell no ... |
| 21:57.58 | abrotman | !buckabeer |
| 21:57.58 | dpkg | it has been said that buckabeer is time for abrotman to go .. thursday 5:30pm .. buckabeer at rock bottom |
| 21:58.00 | diana_ | thanks abrotman |
| 21:58.03 | eeyore- | Ronin: that's what i was wondering |
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| 21:58.40 | Nippoo | meh |
| 21:58.49 | diana_ | Now that java is going to be open sourced...will it be allowed to be packaged by debian.org? |
| 21:58.56 | diana_ | Like jdk or jre |
| 21:58.57 | kspath | dollar a bear and rock botoom in Chicago? |
| 21:59.05 | Nippoo | "package kernel-source-2.6 is not available but is referred to by another package" |
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| 21:59.28 | drivamgr2006 | cat - it didnt. i still have no mouse, ps2 or usb are not working |
| 21:59.42 | abrotman | diana_: now that what? |
| 21:59.44 | kspath | abrotman: in Chicago? |
| 21:59.47 | sohmestra | diana_: "open source" is a pretty broad term. not all "open source" licenses meet dfsg |
| 21:59.48 | Nippoo | any way of fixing that? |
| 22:00.07 | diana_ | sohmestra: But this new lincense sun uses..will it meet dfsg? |
| 22:00.19 | eeyore- | honestly, who cares about java now? |
| 22:00.20 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: post your /etc/apt/sources.... into #flood |
| 22:00.21 | eeyore- | (hehe) |
| 22:00.24 | abrotman | sohmestra: really really doubtful |
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| 22:00.32 | rotty | diana_: java *is* going to be open sourced? |
| 22:00.36 | eeyore- | C/C++/perl/python/php forevah |
| 22:00.44 | diana_ | rotty: yes |
| 22:00.50 | abrotman | eeyore-: graveman! |
| 22:00.57 | abrotman | !info graveman |
| 22:00.59 | dpkg | graveman: (graphical tool to burn dvd and cd, gtk based), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.3.12-4-2.1 (sid), Packaged size: 688 kB, Installed size: 2416 kB |
| 22:01.02 | tarzeau | eeyore-: you forgot Objective-C |
| 22:01.09 | rotty | eeyore-: there are better languages than that ;) |
| 22:01.28 | abrotman | eeyore-: you forgot whitespace! |
| 22:01.29 | rotty | diana_: press release? |
| 22:01.38 | poli | nkuttler: about prism3, I see the hostap modules available in debian, so, they must be free. |
| 22:01.40 | diana_ | rotty: yes |
| 22:01.44 | eeyore- | abrotman: is it french or something? |
| 22:01.51 | rotty | diana_: URL? |
| 22:02.21 | drivamgr2006 | Anyone else got an idea? My mice do not work in the GUI. I have ps and usb plugged in - how can i detect where each one is attached? |
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| 22:02.35 | sohmestra | rotty: google? |
| 22:02.38 | abrotman | eeyore-: which ? |
| 22:02.39 | eeyore- | abrotman: it's a frontend to cdrecord, though, and i'm trying to ditch cdrecord :-) |
| 22:02.46 | tarzeau | my mouse purrs |
| 22:02.49 | eeyore- | abrotman: jorge is an ass, so it would seem to me |
| 22:03.01 | nkuttler | poli: afaik the modules still need the firmware |
| 22:03.41 | abrotman | eeyore-: duh |
| 22:03.49 | nkuttler | poli: i use the drivers from prism54.org though, maybe i'm wrong |
| 22:03.57 | cheal | drivamgr2006: which do you use? which device is X configured to use? |
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| 22:04.07 | cheal | drivamgr2006: s/which do/which kernel do/ |
| 22:04.10 | eeyore- | nkuttler: there are two lines of drivers from prism54.org now. the classic one and the new one. |
| 22:04.12 | poli | nkuttler: I just tried the prism54, but no luck with a SanDisk Connect Plus card. |
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| 22:04.31 | nkuttler | eeyore-: oh |
| 22:04.43 | eeyore- | nkuttler: there's the classic prism54 and the new islsm |
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| 22:04.51 | rotty | sohmestra: "java opensource" doesn't yield anything on the first page. and i haven't heard about sun really letting go of java thru the news channels i use; I'm pretty sure it would have made slashdot |
| 22:05.03 | nkuttler | eeyore-: i had uptimes >90 days with the old ones so i don't think i'll change anything |
| 22:05.08 | drivamgr2006 | cheal: I want it to use the usb mouse, and i have now kernel 2.6.8-2-i686 |
| 22:05.09 | eeyore- | nkuttler: the newer islsm is supposed to support "softmac" cards |
| 22:05.17 | eeyore- | nkuttler: along with USB ones |
| 22:05.18 | Spec | 90 days? |
| 22:05.21 | Spec | that's not much uptime |
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| 22:05.40 | eeyore- | we had power outages in sunnyvale and irvine so my long uptimes were wiped :-p |
| 22:05.43 | nkuttler | Spec: wireless pcmcia card in a notebook. relatively high |
| 22:05.59 | Spec | hmm, haven't used any wireless pcmcia cards, only my built-in one |
| 22:06.01 | cheal | drivamgr2006: which device is X configured to use? |
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| 22:06.11 | blondie | how does your network card affect uptime? |
| 22:06.13 | Spec | so...that's not machine uptime, but connectivity uptime? |
| 22:06.22 | nkuttler | blondie: the card was up so long |
| 22:06.25 | Nippoo | pasted it |
| 22:06.30 | blondie | eeyore-: that's what UPSes are for :P |
| 22:06.32 | drivamgr2006 | ps2 at the moment, but where i located it is wrong. i had it on /dev/mouse, and there it does not pick up |
| 22:06.32 | nkuttler | ah, whatever |
| 22:06.46 | eeyore- | blondie: when you have 8-hour outages, ain't no UPS gonna help :-) |
| 22:06.53 | pumpkin0 | Nippoo: looks good. run "apt-get update" to refresh your local data. |
| 22:06.56 | rotty | diana_: can you refer me to the source that claims that SUN will opensource their Java implementation? |
| 22:06.56 | cheal | drivamgr2006: try /dev/input/mice |
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| 22:06.59 | Spec | the most uptime a machine i've owned had was 400 something days |
| 22:07.03 | eeyore- | blondie: and when the UPS themselves *blow up*, well, heh :-) |
| 22:07.04 | xored | i have setup a debian server as router. My windows XP client works fine, iam in with him right now. When i boot linux, i cannot ping the router. The strange thing is. I just moved with my laptop from home to a friend. We have the same settings, only that i have a fritz-lan router, and he a debian machine |
| 22:07.05 | blondie | eeyore-: 8 hours? ouch |
| 22:07.05 | Spec | and then it had to move :-/ |
| 22:07.14 | abrotman | Nippoo: linux-image-blahblahblah |
| 22:07.28 | drivamgr2006 | cheal - would that also pick up the usb mouse cheal? |
| 22:07.39 | drivamgr2006 | bugger my typing... |
| 22:07.42 | cheal | drivamgr2006: yes |
| 22:07.59 | eeyore- | blondie: yeah, Edison likes to schedule outages like that. last time they brought six or seven trucks along to do god knows what ... |
| 22:08.20 | blondie | Edison? the light bulb inventor? o.O |
| 22:08.23 | drivamgr2006 | cool - so I have to edit that in the XF86Config dont i cheal? |
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| 22:08.32 | eeyore- | blondie: no, the company :-) Southern California Edison |
| 22:08.37 | blondie | oh |
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| 22:09.07 | valdy | hi |
| 22:09.08 | eeyore- | rotty: don't hold your breath |
| 22:09.26 | cheal | drivamgr2006: you shouldn't have to do that manually... |
| 22:09.29 | cheal | !drxx drivamgr2006 |
| 22:09.30 | dpkg | drivamgr2006: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 22:09.48 | eeyore- | oh, and we had some air conditioner dripping water on servers ... man, i had no idea life in IT could be so much fun :-) |
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| 22:10.14 | eeyore- | "we're sorry but the <...> data center will be down for some time while we clean up the flood" :-) |
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| 22:10.51 | g3brown | Is there a text gui util to for user admin on Sarge? Like sysvconfig is for services. |
| 22:11.20 | diana_ | g3brown: What do you want to admin? |
| 22:11.28 | drivamgr2006 | I have to edit it by hand cheal - I made manual changes that I dont want to lose, but if I xmd5 the XF86Config-4, apparently I will lose all manual changes. |
| 22:11.29 | Eulex | g3brown, yes. your shell. |
| 22:11.55 | g3brown | diana_: add / remove / delete / change passwords |
| 22:12.02 | sohmestra | drivamgr2006: it would be easier to help if you pasted your config at pastebin or something |
| 22:12.31 | drivamgr2006 | I cant at the moment sohmestra - since I cant use the gui without the mouse... |
| 22:12.32 | g3brown | Eulex: that requires getting list of users, then using another command to preform a certain function. |
| 22:12.34 | cheal | drivamgr2006: yes. so do it by hand |
| 22:12.41 | drivamgr2006 | ok cheal |
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| 22:12.44 | diana_ | g3brown: as root just type "passwd theuser" |
| 22:12.47 | diana_ | And then change their password. |
| 22:12.54 | Nippoo | right, installed linux-source 2.6.12 |
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| 22:13.03 | Nippoo | but where is the kernel source directory? |
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| 22:13.09 | Nippoo | whereis linux-source |
| 22:13.13 | diana_ | Nippoo: /usr/src |
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| 22:13.17 | Nippoo | kk thanks |
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| 22:13.35 | Eulex | drivamgr2006, install gpm. then you'll get a mouse cursor in your console that you can select text and middle-click to copy and paste |
| 22:13.35 | g3brown | diana_: yeah, I got that one. just looking some a tid bit prettier. |
| 22:13.46 | Puiu | g3brown: why? |
| 22:14.02 | g3brown | Puiu: Why prettier? |
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| 22:14.09 | Puiu | yes |
| 22:14.22 | sohmestra | drivamgr2006: I'll post my mouse device config on #flood, if you join it |
| 22:14.31 | StereoSkit | dudes a question, where can i get the image 2.6.12-10? i cant find it in packages.d.o |
| 22:14.39 | g3brown | Puiu: I'm not sure, but I'm sensing a big no to my question. |
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| 22:15.10 | Nippoo | look in #flood for the error I get when I try to make bttv |
| 22:15.16 | g3brown | Puiu: What if you had 200 users. Wouldn't it be easier to have a list to scroll up and down? or maybe I'm missing the boat. |
| 22:15.45 | Eulex | StereoSkit, no such kernel in debian. |
| 22:15.52 | Puiu | g3brown: write a script? |
| 22:16.08 | g3brown | Puiu: I'm stupid :( |
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| 22:16.20 | Puiu | g3brown: Do it manually then. |
| 22:16.23 | xored | what can be the problem . My router is 192.168.178.1. I`ve setted up my debian interfave with : adress 192.168.178.1, netmask 255.255.255.0. Everthing seems to be fine, networkcard is working fine, as worked at home. What could be misscondigured ? |
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| 22:16.37 | Spec | 178 is a stupid number |
| 22:16.40 | Eulex | g3brown, adduser, deluser passwd user, addgroup, delgroup etc |
| 22:16.43 | Spec | use 177 or 179. |
| 22:16.55 | Nippoo | can anyone help? |
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| 22:17.05 | Spec | Nippoo: no |
| 22:17.17 | Nippoo | all I'm trying to do is install bttv. (linux.bytesex.org/v4l2/bttv.html) |
| 22:17.28 | baldy1324 | i hav a question about debian-i havnt decided if i want to use it yet |
| 22:17.38 | Spec | what are your other options, baldy1324? |
| 22:17.46 | Eulex | xored, you've set the IP of the local computer to that of your router. that creates quite big confusion between the computers (yes, a router is a small computer) |
| 22:17.50 | baldy1324 | ubuntu |
| 22:17.52 | sohmestra | baldy1324: ask away |
| 22:17.53 | karma | I am trying to get curl with ssl working. i had curl working but after trying to get ssl support it is no longer working. I show curl support in my php info. Any help? |
| 22:17.55 | Eulex | !ubuntu |
| 22:17.55 | dpkg | See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) | http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 | Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or | Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 22:17.58 | Spec | hmm, both are good. |
| 22:18.12 | baldy1324 | but i would like to know if etch supports the forcedeth nvidia module |
| 22:18.15 | Spec | i'd say if you're making a server use debian, if you're making a desktop for idiots use ubuntu |
| 22:18.17 | baldy1324 | so my internet would work |
| 22:18.21 | StereoSkit | Eulex: omg, what is the next kernel to linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 ? |
| 22:18.27 | jade | karma, did you try the #php channel? |
| 22:18.28 | xored | Eulex : sorry i missdescribed it. My local ip is x.x.x.5 |
| 22:18.29 | cheal | baldy1324: yes |
| 22:18.38 | baldy1324 | it does my internet will work |
| 22:18.45 | Spec | next kernel? |
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| 22:18.59 | StereoSkit | im having troubles with the sound, i just upgrade from sarge to etch and its a been a pain in the *** |
| 22:18.59 | g3brown | Eulex: how about adding user without home directory. Like a samba user that will not be using linux. What is the syntax for that? |
| 22:19.05 | baldy1324 | and i hav amd64 are all of the kernels 32-bit |
| 22:19.08 | karma | jade: yes they told me to rebuild php4-curl |
| 22:19.09 | Spec | StereoSkit: what is etch? |
| 22:19.13 | baldy1324 | i would like a 32-bit system |
| 22:19.14 | Eulex | g3brown, man adduser |
| 22:19.21 | Spec | !etch |
| 22:19.21 | dpkg | i guess etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 22:19.22 | sohmestra | baldy1324: no |
| 22:19.28 | Spec | so...it's unstable. |
| 22:19.33 | cheal | !tell Spec about msg the bot |
| 22:19.37 | baldy1324 | so which ones are 32-bit |
| 22:19.39 | Spec | </sarcastic> |
| 22:19.49 | StereoSkit | Spec: i wouldnt notice |
| 22:19.53 | karma | jade: I did an apt-get -b source php4-curl and it upgraded a lot of packages but it does not seem to be working still |
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| 22:20.00 | StereoSkit | Spec: i ment testing |
| 22:20.02 | Eulex | StereoSkit, eh? the package name is linux-image-2.6.12-1-686, the package version is 2.6.12-10 |
| 22:20.07 | BioTech | do i have to be connected to the net to do a remaster sience i already have the deb files i need on cd if not how would i do it? |
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| 22:20.17 | baldy1324 | which kernels are 32-bit |
| 22:20.20 | jade | karma, did you try restarting apache? |
| 22:20.41 | karma | jade: I did not... not this time.. thanks.. trying that now |
| 22:20.43 | StereoSkit | theres no /etc/audio nor /dev/mixer in my system /o\ |
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| 22:20.53 | cheal | baldy1324: all of those available on i386 |
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| 22:20.56 | StereoSkit | */dev/audio |
| 22:21.00 | Eulex | xored, well, you still haven't mentioned the actual problem, just that you thing that something is misconfigured |
| 22:21.22 | Eulex | *think |
| 22:21.22 | sohmestra | baldy1324: i(3|6)86 kernels are all 32bit |
| 22:21.27 | xored | Eulex : i cannot reach the router, i cannot reach the other client. |
| 22:21.31 | baldy1324 | what do you mean |
| 22:21.43 | baldy1324 | if they have 386 at the end they are 32-bit |
| 22:21.57 | sohmestra | baldy1324: yes, or 686 |
| 22:22.04 | baldy1324 | ok thank you |
| 22:22.12 | Eulex | xored, does the router expect that you set up your ip and netmask yourself? many expect that you use dhcp. |
| 22:22.12 | drivamgr2006 | Ok - Have changed the mouse input to /dev/input/mice and neither are connecting. I have 2 mice listed under input, mouse0 and mouse1, neither of those are inputting either. |
| 22:22.12 | quad3datwork2 | !beer |
| 22:22.12 | dpkg | somebody said beer was liquid gold mate |
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| 22:22.28 | cheal | baldy1324: yes. which architecture do you plan to install? |
| 22:22.34 | baldy1324 | x86 |
| 22:22.36 | xored | Eulex : i have running winXP on this machine too, there it wokrs with same seetings. It cannot be the DNS settings, cause i connot even ping the router |
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| 22:22.59 | Eulex | xored, what does it say if you attempt to ping the router? |
| 22:22.59 | sohmestra | baldy1324: sarge does have a 64bit kernel for amd64 |
| 22:23.03 | cheal | baldy1324: there's no "x86". for amd64 there's either amd64 (unofficial) or i386 |
| 22:23.11 | karma | jade: :( restarting apache did not help. I have a test curl php pages the works when curl is working, but I am still getting a fatal error |
| 22:23.13 | xored | Eulex : First of all, iam not that kind of rookie :) DHCP is not runnign, iam running a debian server as router |
| 22:23.16 | baldy1324 | if it can detect my nvidia ethernet i will download the i386 version |
| 22:23.27 | cheal | baldy1324: it should |
| 22:23.29 | xored | Eulex : network ist unreachable |
| 22:23.43 | baldy1324 | so etch has forcedeth |
| 22:23.43 | dli | xored, "route" |
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| 22:24.13 | Eulex | xored, well, you never know. we get a lot of newbies here, thus it has become that you're dumb before you've proven something else. |
| 22:24.16 | baldy1324 | i would like to know the differences between (pros and cons) between debian and ubuntu |
| 22:24.17 | sohmestra | cheal: amd64 is official for etch. |
| 22:24.17 | Eulex | xored, hmm |
| 22:24.21 | Puiu | What is the best ids system to use for debian? |
| 22:24.28 | Spec | snort |
| 22:24.29 | Spec | acid |
| 22:24.30 | Puiu | Or the "best" in your opinion. |
| 22:24.31 | Eulex | xored, what network card and driver? |
| 22:24.32 | cheal | sohmestra: not for current etch |
| 22:24.32 | streuner | baldy1324: /msg dpkg why debian |
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| 22:24.42 | Spec | although, upon reflection, snorting acid would be painful |
| 22:24.45 | baldy1324 | what do you mean |
| 22:24.48 | dli | Eulex, looks like a n00b issue :) |
| 22:24.49 | streuner | baldy1324: We are only speaking of pros in debian here ;-) |
| 22:25.03 | cheal | baldy1324: yes, sarge has forcedeth |
| 22:25.05 | xored | Eulex : Ive just moved to my parents today cause of christmas. The networked worked perfect at home, same ip range, same setup |
| 22:25.05 | baldy1324 | ok why is debian better than ubuntu |
| 22:25.11 | sohmestra | baldy1324: he means message the dpkg bot the following: why debian |
| 22:25.17 | Spec | Puiu: if you use snort/acid, you've gotta look up the directions to make a passive tap - it's the best way to do to IDS in my opinion |
| 22:25.24 | dli | baldy1324, we don't care about ubuntu, be better or worse |
| 22:25.30 | Spec | !why is debian better than ubuntu |
| 22:25.30 | dpkg | Spec: what are you talking about? |
| 22:25.41 | xored | Eulex : No iam here i cannot get the debian running, XP is runnign fine. Iam on it right now. I cannot realy realize the problem |
| 22:25.47 | eeyore- | k3b is nice |
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| 22:25.49 | Spec | debian isn't necessarily "better" than ubuntu |
| 22:25.55 | Spec | it's better for servers, though |
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| 22:26.05 | blondie | baldy1324: why are apples better than oranges? |
| 22:26.07 | Spec | it depends what you want out of your operating system |
| 22:26.08 | BioTech | k3b is not with ubuntu |
| 22:26.11 | Spec | i mean, winxp is better than debian when it comes to crashing |
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| 22:26.21 | eeyore- | in as much as i dislike qt/c++ i have to admit those kde folks turn out good software |
| 22:26.22 | tarzeau | blondie: melons! |
| 22:26.24 | BioTech | a cd burning tool |
| 22:26.28 | Spec | (blondie: it's a commonly known fact that oranges are better.) |
| 22:26.39 | blondie | oranges make a mess though |
| 22:26.42 | Spec | but they're sweet |
| 22:26.44 | blondie | (I can't peel them) |
| 22:26.46 | Spec | shut up, no arguing. |
| 22:26.47 | baldy1324 | i would like to learn linux and have a base system (so i install gnome, xorg, and everything else by myself) |
| 22:26.47 | blondie | apples are sweet |
| 22:26.53 | Spec | oranges>apples. |
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| 22:26.57 | tarzeau | apples are for horses |
| 22:27.00 | zvadin | some question i need toxic-renderer and K3D-Modelling prog .. the problem is I have amd64 did anyone know what can I do to run these applicaton unter 64Bit ? |
| 22:27.01 | Eulex | xored, hmm, it'll be hard to debug if you'll have to reboot, test things out, then reboot again |
| 22:27.03 | streuner | baldy1324: LFS? |
| 22:27.04 | quad3datwork2 | teh w1n |
| 22:27.08 | Spec | okay, bye bye. |
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| 22:27.16 | xored | Eulex : Yes, thats the problem. |
| 22:27.19 | Eulex | oranges++ |
| 22:27.21 | sohmestra | baldy1324: you can learn with any distro. just pick one and use it. |
| 22:27.23 | BioTech | i have a simple question about remastering knoppix "how can i add a package i already have on cd?" |
| 22:27.25 | dli | Spec, no, it's not crashes ( I never see the blue screen of winxp with my own eyes), spywares, viruses make windows suck |
| 22:27.31 | baldy1324 | ok |
| 22:27.31 | tarzeau | BioTech: wrong here |
| 22:27.35 | tarzeau | BioTech: #knoppix |
| 22:27.36 | blondie | baldy1324: LFS then :P |
| 22:27.42 | BioTech | nobody home there |
| 22:27.42 | baldy1324 | what |
| 22:27.45 | Spec | dli: i've seen it crash |
| 22:27.48 | Spec | multiple times |
| 22:27.48 | Eulex | !they don't know |
| 22:27.48 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 22:27.49 | tarzeau | !they don't know |
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| 22:27.49 | streuner | !lfs |
| 22:27.49 | dpkg | hmm... lfs is large file support -- http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html, or ask me about linux from scratch |
| 22:27.54 | tarzeau | BioTech: for you |
| 22:27.54 | streuner | no |
| 22:27.55 | Spec | but, to be fair, it was probably a hardware issue |
| 22:28.01 | eibwen | I've got an old laptop -- trying to figure which kernel-image to install. /proc/cpuinfo returns 166 Mhz Intel Pentium MMX (Family: 5; Model: 4; Stepping: 3). I presume (possibly incorrectly) it's a 586, but I can only seem to find 686 and 386 images? |
| 22:28.14 | xored | Eulex : But it seems, as i have no other chance. Maybe its a "route" problem `? |
| 22:28.20 | streuner | ~lfs |
| 22:28.22 | apt | rumour has it, lfs is linuxfromscratch or linuxfromscratch.org |
| 22:28.25 | BioTech | i have a simple question about remastering Debian "how can i add a package i already have on cd?" better? :) |
| 22:28.29 | duckdown | W: Couldn't stat source package list file: apt-build/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_var_cache_apt-build_repository_dists_apt-build_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) <-- I'm getting this error when I run synaptic off a new install.. anybody know why? |
| 22:28.33 | dli | eibwen, use 386 :) |
| 22:28.36 | tarzeau | BioTech: DON'T REPEAT |
| 22:28.39 | SerajewelKS | BioTech: is it debian, or is it knoppix? |
| 22:28.43 | cheal | baldy1324: there are no comprehensive comparisons of Debian with Ubuntu AFAIK. big differences include the number of packages (much larger in Debian), the variety of machines supported (much larger in Debian), package pools and release schedules |
| 22:28.44 | BioTech | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.55 | dli | BioTech, apt-cdrom |
| 22:28.57 | Eulex | xored, well, as long as you don't have access to your debian installation and internet at the same time it's hard for us to do anything but guess |
| 22:29.13 | Eulex | xored, you haven't got any other computer over there? your parents should have one, right? or is occupied? |
| 22:29.19 | dli | BioTech, indeed, apt-setup can do it |
| 22:29.31 | BioTech | ok when i try that it ask about some mount point, which is cdrom1 but it does not work |
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| 22:29.39 | BioTech | apt-setup? |
| 22:29.47 | SerajewelKS | !does not work |
| 22:29.48 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 22:29.53 | dli | BioTech, just run apt-setup |
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| 22:30.45 | xored | Eulex : yes there is one, in the other room. I just think its about the routing. He cannot reach the network, something liek "where to send the ping request for that ip" etc. |
| 22:30.46 | duckdown | Can someone tell me what that file is I have to edit to get all the other software in aptitude ? |
| 22:30.54 | duckdown | build-essential or something |
| 22:31.09 | MikeDub | ma |
| 22:31.17 | Eulex | xored, may very well be |
| 22:31.38 | dli | duckdown, want to build something? "apt-get install kernel-package" |
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| 22:32.08 | dli | duckdown, not the direct solution, but an easy one |
| 22:32.08 | duckdown | dli, no, for some reason I recall having to add a certain line to a file in order for more packages to appear in synaptic |
| 22:32.12 | cheal | dli: that doesn't sound right |
| 22:32.15 | duckdown | dli, does this sound familiar? |
| 22:32.20 | xored | Eulex : How to set up the routing ? Router is on 192.168.178.1 , inteface eth1, ip 192.168.178.5 |
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| 22:32.32 | cheal | duckdown: you must be thinking about /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 22:32.55 | dli | duckdown, then, apt-setup |
| 22:32.58 | tuv | duckdown: did you do "Reload" in synpatic? |
| 22:33.01 | duckdown | cheal, That sounds like it could be right.. ill have a look.. thanks |
| 22:33.18 | duckdown | tuv, nope? synaptic is also giving me an odd error: W: Couldn't stat source package list file: apt-build/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_var_cache_apt-build_repository_dists_apt-build_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 22:33.32 | poli | nkuttler: Seems like the Prism3 is supported in two different drivers: hostap and linux-wlan-ng. I am sure the latter is free, ans possibly the first, too, but not yet in kernel... So, I will get it compiled and try to make d-i load it. |
| 22:33.40 | sohmestra | duckdown: apt-get update |
| 22:33.44 | Eulex | xored, you use the route command. see man route. |
| 22:33.48 | eeyore- | xored: without mentioning your other machines that are not related to the problem at hand, what is your *current* problem? |
| 22:33.52 | duckdown | sohmestra, Cool, I'll try it, thanks :) |
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| 22:33.58 | tuv | duckdown: well, you should.. |
| 22:34.02 | eeyore- | xored: can you restate your problem in one sentence? |
| 22:34.20 | xored | eeyore- : I cannot rech any other clieants in the network |
| 22:34.36 | eeyore- | xored: then your network mask is wrong |
| 22:34.39 | sohmestra | xored: meaning...cannot ping? |
| 22:34.41 | tuv | duckdown: Reload in synpatic is equivalent to apt-get update |
| 22:34.53 | duckdown | tuv, ahhh, I see :) |
| 22:34.59 | xored | ecc |
| 22:35.14 | xored | eeyore- , sohmestra : netmask is std. 255.255.255.0 |
| 22:35.28 | eeyore- | xored: show me (in /query eeyore-) output of "ifconfig -a" and "route -n", and "arp -n" |
| 22:35.28 | duckdown | Perfect, that fixed the error, Thanks :) |
| 22:35.30 | xored | eeyore- : exactlly. No ping on the debian machine |
| 22:35.39 | duckdown | Now isn't there one more thing I have to add to that sources.list file? |
| 22:35.45 | duckdown | To get more packages? |
| 22:35.52 | eeyore- | oh how cute. k3b even plays a tune when it's done burnin |
| 22:36.15 | xored | eeyore- need to ereboot, can you wait 3 mins ? |
| 22:36.27 | sohmestra | xored: so your debian machine cannot ping machine X with ip Y? Is the reverse true? How are they connected? |
| 22:36.37 | tuv | duckdown: r u missing a package? |
| 22:36.43 | xored | sohmestra no revers, Nothing |
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| 22:36.49 | dli | eeyore-, I hate that, everything should be done quiet |
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| 22:36.58 | eeyore- | xored: make that four things. "mii-tool", "ifconfig -a", "route -n", and "arp -n" |
| 22:37.03 | Eulex | eeyore-, if it fails to burn, it plays some sound that scared the shit outta me the first time... |
| 22:37.05 | eeyore- | dli: sex? |
| 22:37.12 | duckdown | tuv, nono, but I used debian like a year ago and for some odd reason I have this memory of having to modify sources.list and adding like a testing line to it, and it added loads more packages |
| 22:37.19 | sohmestra | xored: what does the output of ifconfig look like? |
| 22:37.24 | xored | eeyore- "mii-tool" ? |
| 22:37.25 | dli | eeyore-, sex is quiet in linux |
| 22:37.26 | duckdown | tuv, I could be wrong though.. |
| 22:37.31 | quad3datwork2 | !sex |
| 22:37.31 | dpkg | updatedb; locate; talk; date; cd; strip; look; touch; finger; unzip; uptime; gawk; head; apt-get install condom; mount; fsck; gasp; more; yes; yes; yes; more; umount; apt-get remove --purge condom; make clean; sleep |
| 22:37.45 | tuv | duckdown: r u using stable or what? |
| 22:37.48 | xored | sohmestra loooks fine, everything looks confuigured right, netmaks, adress, broadcast |
| 22:37.51 | duckdown | yes, stable |
| 22:37.59 | duckdown | so i guess testing is kinda contradictory |
| 22:38.14 | xored | eeyore- back in 3 mins |
| 22:38.27 | Puiu | I have music files that were ripped in windows media player...how can I play them...they are asf |
| 22:38.40 | duckdown | no worries ill have to do some research :) thanks though |
| 22:38.44 | SerajewelKS | duckdown: you basically upgraded to testing. why you "had" to do that is in question. |
| 22:38.46 | pureone | mplayer should be able to play them |
| 22:38.58 | tuv | duckdown: whenever you miss a package, search for it in apt-get.org (or google for that matter) and it will give you the line you need to add to sources.list |
| 22:39.08 | tarzeau | hi odla |
| 22:39.12 | SerajewelKS | Puiu: did you rip them as "copy-protected?" (the wmp default, iirc) |
| 22:39.14 | duckdown | SerajewelKS, ahhh I see.. must be mistaken |
| 22:39.18 | eeyore- | Puiu: mplayer |
| 22:39.24 | duckdown | tuv, perfect, thanks man |
| 22:39.30 | Puiu | SerajewelKS: I dunno |
| 22:39.46 | SerajewelKS | Puiu: if you don't know, then you probably did. and i don't think mplayer can play those... |
| 22:39.49 | tuv | duckdown: e.g. mplayer is not in debian. you can make it available using this procedure |
| 22:39.56 | SerajewelKS | Puiu: worth a shot, but don't get too excited =/ |
| 22:40.01 | tuv | duckdown: sure |
| 22:40.06 | Puiu | yea, I have debian. |
| 22:40.10 | Puiu | er, I have mplayer |
| 22:40.15 | eeyore- | what? mplayer isn't in debian either? this PC shit has got to stop some point |
| 22:40.24 | SerajewelKS | !mplayer |
| 22:40.24 | dpkg | mplayer is probably not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
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| 22:40.40 | duckdown | brb :) thanks again |
| 22:40.45 | eeyore- | sometimes i'm glad i'm on gentoo for my home machines |
| 22:40.47 | Puiu | What is a good music player...that runs fast...and has support for organizing music by year/artist etc...in alphabetical order easily. |
| 22:40.51 | Puiu | I just want a good music player. |
| 22:41.00 | tarzeau | Puiu: try opencubicplayer |
| 22:41.04 | SerajewelKS | Puiu: amarok does that but has some usability bugs |
| 22:41.08 | Puiu | xmms isn't very good for branching off sections...and organizing large quantity. |
| 22:41.12 | SerajewelKS | Puiu: e.g. it's not exactly "fast" |
| 22:41.13 | bucky | eeyore-, i know it's too difficult for you to /msg dpkg marillat |
| 22:41.16 | Tepes^ | i inslatt mysql (apt-get install mysql-server). how i set php to work with mysql? |
| 22:41.32 | bucky | eeyore-, in fact you paid no attention to the factoid that just went by |
| 22:41.34 | eeyore- | bucky: don't give me that. i used to use marillat repository |
| 22:41.40 | tuv | Puiu: amarok is great |
| 22:41.44 | eeyore- | bucky: and trust me i've done debian way longer than you have |
| 22:41.49 | bucky | eeyore-, then go back to recompiling |
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| 22:42.03 | cheal | Tepes^: did you install php4-mysql? |
| 22:42.13 | bucky | eeyore-, you're a snot nosed punk |
| 22:42.24 | eeyore- | maybe not ... |
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| 22:42.30 | dli | eeyore-, xine is as good as mplayer nowadays, totem works also |
| 22:42.44 | Tepes^ | cheal: no... i need 2 do that? |
| 22:42.52 | eeyore- | dli: yeah, i use xine for unichrome. works great. |
| 22:42.54 | SerajewelKS | dli: still good to have both. some stuff won't play well in xine, but works in mplayer. |
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| 22:43.20 | dli | SerajewelKS, but I got many .rm simply hang with mplayer |
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| 22:43.27 | Tepes^ | cheal: apt-get install php4-mysql ? |
| 22:43.29 | tuv | mplayer is the best media player ever |
| 22:43.37 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: it has nothing to do with being PC. Say hello to your software patent overlords. |
| 22:43.41 | cheal | Tepes^: that would do it, assuming you need what the package contains |
| 22:43.43 | SerajewelKS | dli: well of course. it works the other way too.. some stuff works in xine but not in mplayer. that's why you have both. |
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| 22:44.05 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: debian doesn't have to package win32codecs ... |
| 22:44.13 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: that's not the problem |
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| 22:44.23 | dli | SerajewelKS, what about totem. it's free, but I don't like gnome |
| 22:44.39 | SerajewelKS | dli: totem sucks ;) |
| 22:45.04 | beoba | SerajewelKS: thats why we love it |
| 22:45.05 | SerajewelKS | dli: it likes playlists in XML format, and won't read flat text playlists. so much for the *nix philosophy. |
| 22:45.28 | beoba | vlc is pretty neat |
| 22:45.33 | beoba | mplayer is too |
| 22:45.42 | beoba | ive heard people say nice things about xine but i havent tried it myself |
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| 22:46.58 | nukeu666 | how do i update the aliases.db after changing aliases file? |
| 22:47.07 | quad3datwork2 | live with the king! |
| 22:47.34 | bucky | nukeu666, run /usr/bin/newaliases |
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| 22:48.00 | nukeu666 | k.thnx |
| 22:48.37 | xored | !paste |
| 22:48.37 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 22:50.11 | nukeu666 | so "alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases" means it will look for the aliases.db right? |
| 22:50.42 | ryan` | what's up with debsigs? |
| 22:50.43 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1382 <- route |
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| 22:50.52 | ryan` | doesn't seem to work, at all |
| 22:51.08 | Tepes^ | cheal: ok... i install that |
| 22:51.16 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1383 <- ifconfig |
| 22:51.38 | bucky | nukeu666, which verison of debian are you using? |
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| 22:52.16 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1384 <- arp |
| 22:52.22 | kaleb | How long is it gona take for xorg 7.0 to get into debian unstable? Days, weeks or months? |
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| 22:52.55 | nukeu666 | bucky:hm..debian testing 2.6 kernel...trying to install postfix |
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| 22:53.33 | bucky | nukeu666, man newaliases is pretty fun.. 940 lines |
| 22:53.42 | SerajewelKS | xored: why do you have two interfaces configured with ips in the same subnet |
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| 22:54.36 | xored | SerajewelKS it was just a test. I need only the eth1. i had eth0 disabled, but it didnt help |
| 22:54.37 | bucky | nukeu666, there was something funky about postfix and aliases.. try google for it.. i can't remember what it was |
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| 22:54.54 | SerajewelKS | xored: is eth0 plugged in to anything physically? |
| 22:54.54 | Tepes^ | how I make php 2 work with mysql? (i just install php4-mysql) |
| 22:55.01 | Davey|Laptop | Where is the webmin start script? |
| 22:55.09 | SerajewelKS | Tepes^: what is "php 2" |
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| 22:55.21 | Tepes^ | php to work |
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| 22:55.26 | xored | SerajewelKS no |
| 22:55.28 | Nippoo | Tepes: |
| 22:55.31 | Nippoo | apt-get install php4 |
| 22:55.37 | Nippoo | apt-get install php4-mysql |
| 22:55.37 | dli | Davey|Laptop, I heard that nobody should be running webmin, unless you are isolated on a LAN |
| 22:55.42 | Nippoo | apt-get install mysql |
| 22:55.51 | SerajewelKS | xored: hmm.. |
| 22:55.52 | nukeu666 | bucky:im trying to make it work right now...ill try funky stuff later |
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| 22:55.56 | Tepes^ | Nippoo: i inslatll all |
| 22:56.01 | SerajewelKS | xored: and you can use eth1 at other locations without error? |
| 22:56.04 | Davey|Laptop | dli, thats fine, doesn't help me though :P |
| 22:56.09 | SerajewelKS | xored: e.g. it's not the driver or the card? |
| 22:56.16 | xored | SerajewelKS : it worked fine at home, yes |
| 22:56.25 | xored | SerajewelKS iam using the same network card now, under win XP |
| 22:56.28 | bucky | nukeu666, well what i'm saying is postfix might ignore /etc/aliases.. so you can try all you want |
| 22:56.42 | SerajewelKS | xored: right, which means that the linux driver could be fscked up |
| 22:56.54 | xored | SerajewelKS : its defenetly no the driver, because it worked 7h beefore at home |
| 22:57.01 | nukeu666 | ooo |
| 22:57.09 | SerajewelKS | xored: hrm.. tried using a different cable? |
| 22:57.11 | xored | fscked up ? |
| 22:57.16 | SerajewelKS | !fsck |
| 22:57.16 | dpkg | rumour has it, fsck is a file system integrity checker, or a visually-similar euphemism for fuck |
| 22:57.23 | bucky | nukeu666, have you read anything in /usr/share/doc/postfix ? |
| 22:57.28 | xored | its working under windows, so NO physwical error ? SerajewelKS |
| 22:57.38 | SerajewelKS | xored: oh, right... duh |
| 22:57.59 | ryan` | what package is apt-key in? |
| 22:57.59 | zOap | how can I use my s-video tv out? What software recognices this and let me adjust the settings? eg clone, stretch, video and such? |
| 22:58.01 | Kutta | I've got a problem with SID. I did an upgrade the other day and a bunch of stuff crapped out. cp/df/gzip all segfaulted. I fixed those problems, but now grep dies with an "Illegal Instruction" error. If I reinstall the grep package, it goes away, but it seemingly randomly gets corrupted again. I'd guess some library is being dynamically loaded that has a problem with my AMD K6-3 processor. Anything I can do? |
| 22:58.08 | SerajewelKS | xored: does the winxp setup and the linux setup share the same IP? |
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| 22:58.23 | SerajewelKS | Kutta: use stable or testing? |
| 22:58.31 | eeyore- | xored: you do not see anything wrong with output of ifconfig? :-) |
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| 22:58.35 | Kutta | SerajewelKS: SID/unstable |
| 22:58.46 | SerajewelKS | Kutta: i know. it's called "unstable" for a reason. |
| 22:58.52 | nukeu666 | bucky:theres hardly anything given in it |
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| 22:58.55 | SerajewelKS | Kutta: if you like your system to work, use testing or stable |
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| 22:59.20 | eeyore- | xored: this is classic situation that's going to get you in trouble |
| 22:59.22 | xored | eeyore- : no sorry |
| 22:59.25 | SerajewelKS | !unstable |
| 22:59.25 | dpkg | methinks unstable is the status of a Debian release when packages can be added to the system at any time that might disrupt the integrity of the whole system! Ask me about <break>. not supported here, in general. It's also newspeak for not stable. If you have to ask whether you should use unstable, you shouldn't. apt-get install apt-listbugs (!) See testing. see sid |
| 22:59.27 | azeem | Kutta: is it just gzip, or also other stuff? |
| 22:59.41 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: you're talking about two ifaces on the same subnet? |
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| 22:59.47 | eeyore- | xored: you have two interfaces which are set to 192.168.178.* |
| 22:59.50 | eeyore- | SerajewelKS: yes |
| 22:59.59 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: he said that eth0 was up for testing |
| 23:00.07 | xored | eeyore- :no its not the problem . I have disabled eth0 before. It did worked |
| 23:00.11 | eeyore- | xored: if you want to do this kind of thing, use eth0:0 (alias) instead of two physical interfaces |
| 23:00.16 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: it doesn't work when eth0 is down, and it's not plugged into anything |
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| 23:00.20 | xored | eeyore- i just eneabled it after debugging arround |
| 23:00.39 | eeyore- | xored: please ifconfig eth0 down, and *clear* your routing table and *then* send me something good |
| 23:00.52 | eeyore- | xored: don't send me something obviously not good and say "it's just for testing" |
| 23:01.04 | dli | eeyore-, would it work if two ifaces are set to different subnets? |
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| 23:01.11 | eeyore- | dli: yes |
| 23:01.13 | ma3x | hi, the guy who setup my internet, has put a bookmark in my web explorer (ftp bookmark) and now I directly login. How can I view the password? |
| 23:01.22 | eeyore- | dli: as it is, it's a toss-up which interface it goes out |
| 23:01.26 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: look at the routing table. eth1 is the route target, which is correct. |
| 23:01.38 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: so eth0 isn't doing squat to his setup |
| 23:01.44 | eeyore- | dli: and if the interface it goes out is not the same as the one it's (ping response) comes back in, well then, you don't get ping replies (and others) |
| 23:01.46 | Kutta | SerajewelKS: Well that's probably true, but do you know of anything I can try to figure out what's messing it up. I've been running on unstable for 2yrs and have never had a problem yet. |
| 23:02.12 | SerajewelKS | Kutta: do you just not dist-upgrade often? i know unstable has been broken several times in 2 years. |
| 23:02.24 | Kutta | Sera: usually I just do a upgrade |
| 23:02.27 | dli | eeyore-, interesting |
| 23:02.33 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: eth0 is not physically attached to anything |
| 23:02.36 | Kutta | or maybe I was lucky enough to upgrade inbetween problems, heh |
| 23:02.50 | eeyore- | SerajewelKS: why is it so hard to just ifconfig eth0 down and clear the route table? :-) |
| 23:02.54 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: so everything, ARP etc, will not get a response from eth0, but will from eth1 |
| 23:03.08 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: it's not hard, but it *is* pointless given the data we have |
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| 23:03.17 | eeyore- | SerajewelKS: i'd rather be sure |
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| 23:03.28 | dli | eeyore-, how to make it work? if I got two subnets at the client side, and connecting to the same router |
| 23:03.36 | SerajewelKS | eeyore-: suit yourself.. just look at the route table though to see what i mean |
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| 23:03.47 | dli | eeyore-, I mean how to setup the router subnet |
| 23:03.59 | SerajewelKS | dli: don't do that |
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| 23:04.34 | SerajewelKS | dli: unless the router is able to route three subnets (one, two, and inet) (and most routers won't) it's useless to try |
| 23:04.53 | eeyore- | dli: what do you want to do again? |
| 23:04.54 | dli | SerajewelKS, right now, I have 2 NICs for the same one, one is there for backup. didn't consider how to set it up |
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| 23:05.20 | SerajewelKS | dli: you don't need a backup NIC |
| 23:05.26 | dli | eeyore-, if I have the client with two ifaces, 192.168.0.1 192.168.0.5 |
| 23:05.32 | eeyore- | dli: what's your goal? |
| 23:05.57 | SerajewelKS | dli: it's ten times more likely that your hard drive is going to catch on fire than your NIC just randomly die |
| 23:06.03 | eeyore- | dli: talk to us with your high-level need, don't worry about the implementation detail for now. what is it that you think you need? |
| 23:06.05 | dli | eeyore-, can I make both up? using a same gateway |
| 23:06.31 | dli | eeyore-, so, I can login to the node with two IPs, .1 and .5 |
| 23:06.39 | SerajewelKS | dli: use a virtual interface |
| 23:06.42 | eeyore- | dli: why? |
| 23:06.47 | SerajewelKS | dli: ifup eth0:0 192.168.0.5 |
| 23:07.01 | SerajewelKS | dli: or whatever the address is |
| 23:07.09 | dli | SerajewelKS, I c. I never enabled virtual servers in kernel |
| 23:07.22 | SerajewelKS | dli: they're not virtual servers, they're virtual interfaces |
| 23:07.31 | eeyore- | dli: "aliased interface" (IP aliasing) |
| 23:07.36 | SerajewelKS | dli: still, eeyore- has a point. why do you even need to do this? |
| 23:07.36 | eeyore- | dli: not the same thing as virtual servers |
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| 23:07.47 | dli | eeyore-, my mobo has some known hardware issues, something IRQ on one NIC fails |
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| 23:07.58 | SerajewelKS | dli: so get a new mobo |
| 23:08.05 | eeyore- | dli: if that's the problem, adding another card that takes up another IRQ ain't gonna help |
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| 23:08.35 | eeyore- | dli: or, get a better NIC card with solid driver :-) e100? e1000? |
| 23:08.52 | dli | eeyore-, indeed, it helps, the IRQ picked at another nic wakes the nic up |
| 23:09.16 | eeyore- | dli: then move your NIC around to a different slot on the motherboard |
| 23:09.20 | dli | eeyore-, no, it's tyan mobo with 3com built-in cards |
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| 23:09.51 | eeyore- | dli: this is fairly common bios set up ... try disabling some resources (com ports, lpt ports, floppy, secondary IDE, etc.) |
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| 23:09.55 | dli | eeyore-, without the extra nic, the ping time ranges from 1 to 1000+ ms |
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| 23:10.00 | qgg | When I try to communicate with my TI-86 over a serial cable, as soon as I try to send anything, the program crashes with a "Segmentation fault". The hardware works fine on another computer and I have read-write permissions on the port... what's wrong? |
| 23:10.04 | learnfromscratch | how do i configure xterm ? |
| 23:10.21 | azeem | learnfromscratch: via X Resources |
| 23:10.21 | learnfromscratch | the background colour of xterm .. the font size of xterm.. how do i configure them |
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| 23:10.32 | dli | learnfromscratch, you can tweak xterm quite a lot, but why bother doing so. Use Terminal for xfce |
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| 23:10.36 | eeyore- | dli: sounds like something you ought to cure with bios updates |
| 23:10.52 | azeem | learnfromscratch: if you want something easy, try KDE's or GNOME's terminal |
| 23:11.00 | azeem | learnfromscratch: otherwise, read the xterm manpage |
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| 23:11.08 | dli | eeyore-, broken mobos, I got so many of them running, no money to buy new ones :( |
| 23:11.20 | eeyore- | learnfromscratch: in a nutshell, X resources |
| 23:11.27 | learnfromscratch | i am using gnome-terminal.. but my system is quite slow.. so want to shift to small applications.. |
| 23:11.27 | dli | eeyore-, I also got ntp problems, ntp never settles down |
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| 23:11.38 | eeyore- | learnfromscratch: ~/.Xdefaults |
| 23:11.40 | dli | eeyore-, another sign of IRQ issues |
| 23:11.42 | bz0b | hey all, i just install debian 3.1 sarge stable, i did a net install without installing anything, i am using ftp://mirrors.kernel.org for my main files, but i want to get the non-free, how would i add the non-free for that site to my sources.list file |
| 23:12.03 | eeyore- | learnfromscratch: XTerm*VT100*foreground: XTerm*VT100*font: <x fontspec> |
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| 23:12.19 | chealer | bz0b: the same way as for any mirror |
| 23:12.24 | azeem | bz0b: if mirrors.kernel.org ships non-free (I don't know), just append it to that line in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:12.25 | chealer | !tell bz0b about non-free |
| 23:12.37 | eeyore- | dli: what kind of chipset is this? serverwerks? |
| 23:12.48 | bz0b | azeem: like do you mind giving me the exact line i would add |
| 23:13.13 | dli | eeyore-, [AMD] AMD-760 MP [IGD4-2P] |
| 23:13.49 | dli | azeem, deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ stable main contrib non-free |
| 23:14.10 | eeyore- | dli: hmm. nope. can't say i have that problem with my 760MP. we have two of these, one running gentoo the other RH7.3 which is quite old |
| 23:14.36 | eeyore- | dli: and the gentoo box was the file server for a long time so we never had that kind of network issue |
| 23:14.48 | dli | eeyore-, yes, quite old. |
| 23:14.50 | azeem | bz0b: what dli said, e.g. |
| 23:15.08 | Elly | hey guys, what's DRI (in the context of X)? |
| 23:15.13 | dli | eeyore-, it doesn't happen to all nodes, only 1/3 of the cluster |
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| 23:15.22 | azeem | Elly: direct rendering infrastructure |
| 23:15.23 | msg43 | Hi |
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| 23:15.30 | msg43 | How can I remove deamons from boot? |
| 23:15.38 | azeem | msg43: man update-rc.d |
| 23:15.47 | xored | !paste |
| 23:15.48 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 23:15.56 | dli | msg43, update-rc.d -f samba remove |
| 23:16.06 | bucky | msg43, update-rc.d -f <deamon> remove |
| 23:16.07 | msg43 | dli, were can I get a list? |
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| 23:16.18 | Elly | (WW) I810(0): xf86AllocateGARTMemory: allocation of 1024 pages failed (Cannot allocate memory) <--- does that mean I need to configure less video RAM in xorg.conf? |
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| 23:16.18 | bucky | msg43, ls /etc/init.d |
| 23:16.36 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1385 <- route |
| 23:16.37 | g3brown | msg43: you might try sysvconfig too. apt-get install sysvconfig and the you can just sysvconfig. |
| 23:16.42 | msg43 | bucky, yeah but how do I know which ones start up and which ones don't |
| 23:16.44 | dli | msg43 syslog or dmesg|less, or /etc/rc2.d ( or rc3.d) |
| 23:16.47 | msg43 | g3brown, is that gui? |
| 23:16.52 | g3brown | msg43: yeah |
| 23:16.57 | g3brown | msg43: text/gui |
| 23:17.15 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1386 <- ifconfig |
| 23:17.29 | g3brown | msg43: let me know if that is what you were after. |
| 23:17.36 | duck__ | anyone know where to get sgzip? I'm having a hard time finding anything but the source, and the make breaks at: zlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 23:17.37 | xored | eeyore- : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1387 <- arp |
| 23:17.44 | msg43 | g3brown, ok I have to logout of my ssh session and enable x11foward |
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| 23:17.54 | litage | is it normal for ``top'' on your workstation to have a load average of this?: 7.79, 13.43, 10.56 |
| 23:18.03 | g3brown | msg43: it not gui gui it text gui |
| 23:18.09 | dli | litage, no, that's too much |
| 23:18.38 | g3brown | msg43: I run it from ssh |
| 23:18.48 | zzz_ | Hi! Could anybody tell me how can i define a system- wide readable variable. I tried it with export, and from /etc/profile, but for example daemons cannot see it. |
| 23:18.56 | msg43 | g3brown, ok it looks great, I installed debian on my server hopefully everything works |
| 23:19.08 | azeem | zzz_: maybe /etc/environment |
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| 23:19.16 | azeem | zzz_: it's just sourced not executed |
| 23:19.27 | dli | zzz_, there's no such system-wide ENV :( |
| 23:19.40 | xored | eeyore- : do you have a clue ? |
| 23:19.50 | Elly | so, anyone? memory allocation failure on X startup? |
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| 23:20.16 | litage | dli: i noticed acroread was using >100mb or ram. after closing it, the load average is hovering around: 2.14, 7.75, 9.30 |
| 23:20.18 | dli | Elly, anything related to VideoRam in your Xorg.0.log ? |
| 23:20.23 | azeem | Elly: it's just a warning (WW) |
| 23:20.42 | azeem | Elly: so unless your X doesn't startup fine, I wouldn't worry too much |
| 23:20.44 | dli | litage, why do you get such a high load? puzzling |
| 23:21.00 | litage | dli: X is using 130mb.. |
| 23:21.17 | litage | ah, ntop is using 105mb. why on earth would ntop be using 105mb of ram? |
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| 23:21.26 | dli | litage, it doesn't matter, what's the swap usage |
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| 23:21.39 | litage | Swap: 1566296k total, 915672k used, 650624k free, 75528k cached |
| 23:21.41 | dli | litage, stop ntop :( |
| 23:21.59 | dli | litage, that's too much |
| 23:22.00 | Elly | dli: yes, VideoRam 32768 in my xorg.conf |
| 23:22.17 | dli | Elly, do you have 32MB ? |
| 23:22.19 | Elly | azeem: but I have awful video performance...DVDs don't even play well, they used to work fine under windows |
| 23:22.28 | Elly | dli: I have 512MB of system ram, and the card 'borrows' from it somehow |
| 23:22.38 | duck__ | anyone know where to get sgzip? |
| 23:22.46 | dli | Elly, time to check videoram setting in bios |
| 23:22.49 | eeyore- | xored: not yet |
| 23:22.59 | Elly | uhh |
| 23:23.03 | eeyore- | xored: this might be stupid question. but ... are you *sure* you have link on eth1? |
| 23:23.03 | Elly | does the BIOS even have such a setting? |
| 23:23.07 | Elly | only one way to find out I guess |
| 23:23.08 | dli | litage, 1 GB swap used :( |
| 23:23.13 | Elly | brb |
| 23:23.16 | azeem | Elly: what do you use for DVD playback? |
| 23:23.45 | ryan` | azeem, I like ogle (though you didn't ask me) |
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| 23:24.05 | xored | eeyore- its not hat stupid at all. As i have to onboard cards, iam not sure wich is identified as eth1. |
| 23:24.10 | ilba7r | !wlaassistant |
| 23:24.11 | eeyore- | xored: this is one of those motherboards that have two built-in network ports, right? |
| 23:24.32 | eeyore- | xored: yeah, looks that way because the MAC addresses differ by one :-) go install "mii-tools" package |
| 23:24.36 | xored | eeyore- : thats why i also setted up eth0, but it didnt workdes. | yes to netword-int on board |
| 23:24.45 | xored | its installed |
| 23:24.47 | msg43 | were is the apache config file? |
| 23:25.03 | zzz_ | azeem, dli: If i log in with a user (through ssh), a program started from /etc/passwd, and i want this program to read a "predefined" variable. |
| 23:25.03 | xored | eeyore- : but he brings an error runngin. something with "not able" |
| 23:25.03 | dli | xored, enable one play with your cable, after than, save the MAC, and use ifrename |
| 23:25.03 | zzz_ | I' ve written export VARIABLE="VALUE" into /etc/environment, but unfortunately doesn' t work. |
| 23:25.06 | ryan` | is the apt source package broken? |
| 23:25.21 | ryan` | i get dh_installdocs -papt-doc ./build/docs/guide*.text ./build/docs/guide*.html \ |
| 23:25.21 | ryan` | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:25.21 | ryan` | cp: cannot stat `./build/docs/guide*.text': No such file or directory |
| 23:25.21 | ryan` | dh_installdocs: command returned error code 256 |
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| 23:25.28 | xored | dli : didnt get it. What exactly do you mean ? |
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| 23:25.32 | eeyore- | xored: it's part of "net-tools" package |
| 23:26.07 | eeyore- | xored: well, plug the cable in one and if it doesn't ping, plug it into the other :-)))))) |
| 23:26.13 | eeyore- | xored: poor man's diagnostics |
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| 23:26.23 | xored | eeyore- : did that. iam not stupid :) |
| 23:26.41 | xored | eeyore- it just didnt worked. really i would not ask here if it would be that easy :) |
| 23:26.45 | eeyore- | xored: yeah but did you do THAT when you had two interfaces up in ifconfig and two routes? |
| 23:26.47 | msg43 | Where is the apache config file? |
| 23:27.01 | xored | eeyore- yes. Should i DISABLE the one first ? |
| 23:27.08 | eeyore- | xored: of course |
| 23:27.20 | eeyore- | xored: otherwise you're just pissing packets out random interfaces again :-) |
| 23:27.32 | dli | msg43, /etc/apache or apache2 |
| 23:27.45 | xored | ill try |
| 23:28.02 | sean_micken|work | what does the 'un' mean in dpkg -l ? |
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| 23:28.54 | msg43 | dli, ok thanks now how to I enable php4 support? |
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| 23:29.12 | bbrazil | sean_micken|work: not installed iirc |
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| 23:29.37 | bbrazil | sean_micken|work: look at the header - it has a guide |
| 23:29.45 | dli | msg43, I think it's a mod thing :( but I don't know howto, apt-cache search apache, maybe |
| 23:30.15 | msg43 | oh how I hate fucked up distros like debain |
| 23:30.19 | msg43 | nothing is normal grrr |
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| 23:31.40 | sean_micken|work | bbrazil: how would i get it out of that list? |
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| 23:31.56 | bbrazil | sean_micken|work: ? |
| 23:32.07 | sean_micken|work | bbrazil: if it's not installed, i don't want to see it... |
| 23:32.19 | sean_micken|work | bbrazil: i'd rather it just be gone. |
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| 23:32.27 | bbrazil | sean_micken|work: dpkg -l | grep -v ^un |
| 23:32.30 | eeyore- | msg43: that's a bit rash |
| 23:32.41 | sean_micken|work | bbrazil: funny |
| 23:32.44 | msg43 | eeyore-, well were the hell can I change the apache dir root |
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| 23:32.59 | msg43 | on most normal distros it should be in /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf |
| 23:33.00 | eeyore- | msg43: what's wrong with apache's config file? |
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| 23:33.13 | msg43 | eeyore-, I can't find were to change the directory root |
| 23:33.17 | eeyore- | msg43: find /etc/apache -name "*.conf" |
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| 23:33.50 | msg43 | eeyore-, how does this help me change the directory root? |
| 23:34.29 | eeyore- | msg43: you can't edit the config file? |
| 23:34.57 | msg43 | eeyore-, I dunno in what conf file to chang eit in |
| 23:35.09 | msg43 | it not in apache2.conf nor httpd.conf |
| 23:35.15 | eeyore- | msg43: grep -Hir DocumentRoot /etc/apache |
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| 23:35.51 | bucky | msg43, it's handled in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
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| 23:37.03 | msg43 | That confusing I'm ussing bsd! |
| 23:37.14 | eeyore- | msg43: good luck |
| 23:37.22 | blondie | msg43: orly |
| 23:37.29 | msg43 | I just want something simple |
| 23:37.37 | eeyore- | time for fark.com's O RLY pic |
| 23:38.02 | eeyore- | msg43: fapping is still simple |
| 23:38.21 | msg43 | ok can someone explain it to me then? |
| 23:38.37 | blondie | msg43: are you using debian? |
| 23:38.39 | msg43 | I want to enable ssl, and virtual host so I can have blah.domain.com |
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| 23:38.42 | msg43 | blondie, yes |
| 23:38.45 | dondelelcaro | msg43: 000-default is just the DocumentRoot for the non-virtual hosts. |
| 23:38.58 | bucky | msg43, cat /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.etc |
| 23:39.22 | dondelelcaro | msg43: if you want blah.domain.com, add another file in /etc/apache2/sites-available/ with the appropriate stanzas, and run a2ensite yourfilename; |
| 23:39.32 | blondie | msg43: you said you were using BSD |
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| 23:39.46 | msg43 | blondie, I said I was gonna switch |
| 23:39.52 | eeyore- | blondie: he meant to say, "this debian shit is too confusing! i'm going to use bsd!" |
| 23:40.08 | blondie | I see... |
| 23:40.10 | eeyore- | blondie: empty threat. since he's probably gonna run into more troubles with bsd |
| 23:40.19 | msg43 | I'm use to the typical linux setup |
| 23:40.26 | msg43 | not patched setups |
| 23:40.41 | blondie | well BSD won't be that then |
| 23:40.49 | blondie | though, BSD does include Mac OS... so try that ;P |
| 23:40.54 | eeyore- | msg43: look man, if you can't handle basic grep command and simple looking-around .... |
| 23:41.13 | msg43 | eeyore-, well I'm not to handy with grep |
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| 23:41.25 | eeyore- | blondie: hey how do you wake up an ipod that's "crashed" (it's stuck at "do not disconnect" prompt forever)? |
| 23:41.31 | Guerin | wtf |
| 23:41.37 | Guerin | you can't be handy with grep |
| 23:41.40 | Guerin | there's nothing to it |
| 23:41.44 | bucky | msg43, cat /usr/share/doc/apache2/README.etc |
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| 23:42.03 | Guerin | eeyore-: hit it with a hammer and return it to the crapple shop for a refund |
| 23:42.06 | msg43 | Guerin, I dunno the fancy stuff haven't had time to look at it |
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| 23:42.15 | eeyore- | Guerin: this was *in* the apple store :-))))) |
| 23:42.21 | blondie | eeyore-: dunno, never used one |
| 23:42.22 | Guerin | msg43: grep HAS NO fancy stuff |
| 23:42.25 | msg43 | yeah I gott my many stuff |
| 23:42.26 | eeyore- | Guerin: i guess their shit don't even work properly in THEIR OWN STORE |
| 23:42.28 | blondie | maybe remove the battery |
| 23:42.31 | Guerin | eeyore-: awesome |
| 23:42.38 | msg43 | Guerin, as in I dunno the commands |
| 23:42.39 | blondie | power cycling fixes many things |
| 23:42.43 | msg43 | well opitions |
| 23:42.51 | Guerin | eeyore-: my mate took his new ipod to everest base camp, and it crashed and burned due to altitude |
| 23:42.57 | jjazz | msg43, are you familiar with man pages? type man grep to see the options |
| 23:43.00 | thingfish | neat |
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| 23:43.12 | msg43 | jjazz, yes I am I've just been busy with school |
| 23:43.15 | msg43 | I just got on break |
| 23:43.23 | eeyore- | Guerin: on the other hand i have to give it to them for the mac mini, though. neat. small. relatively quiet. |
| 23:43.23 | blondie | school, how cute |
| 23:43.31 | blondie | expensive |
| 23:43.36 | Guerin | eeyore-: when he took it back to the crappleporium in seoul, they told him that wasn't covered by the warranty, so he made a scene, and they made an exception |
| 23:43.38 | blondie | there are PCs the EXACT same size |
| 23:43.42 | blondie | more powerful and cheaper |
| 23:44.08 | eeyore- | blondie: $499, that's roughly what i paid for my epia mii + e-otonashi case + hd + dvd-r |
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| 23:44.21 | Elly|irssi | hey guys |
| 23:44.29 | thingfish | and things |
| 23:44.30 | blondie | epia mii? what spec is that? |
| 23:44.32 | Elly|irssi | I just noticed that the module for my video chipset was not loaded |
| 23:44.34 | Elly|irssi | oO |
| 23:44.40 | Elly|irssi | which would explain getting like 2fps |
| 23:44.42 | msg43 | ok so how do I make a subdomain? |
| 23:44.45 | eeyore- | blondie: not very powerful, but it's fanless :-) for bedroom |
| 23:44.53 | blondie | eeyore-: what speed? |
| 23:44.54 | Elly|irssi | so how do I compile support for the i810 module into the kernel? |
| 23:45.03 | eeyore- | blondie: c3 1GHz, roughly PIII 800MHz-ish |
| 23:45.03 | blondie | i have an epia mini-itx machine |
| 23:45.07 | Guerin | msg43: you read the virtualhosts section of httpd.apache.org and you configure your dns |
| 23:45.14 | blondie | mine is only 533MHz |
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| 23:45.20 | kspath_ | epia are VERY cool VERY low power |
| 23:45.55 | eeyore- | blondie: so i'm looking at the mac mini and i'm thinking damn, that's sweet ... small |
| 23:46.00 | kspath_ | you could have 4-8 mounted under your desk and have an entire cluster with little noise little heat little power utilization |
| 23:46.01 | BiBe | hi. on my debian system in /etc/modules.d/sane are two lines beginning with "blacklist". what does it do? |
| 23:46.07 | msg43 | I'm very noob I came from lighttpd |
| 23:46.10 | Guerin | BiBe: give it half a guess |
| 23:46.13 | eeyore- | kspath: and little CPU power :-) |
| 23:46.18 | blondie | eeyore-: I suppose :P |
| 23:46.21 | Guerin | msg43: all the more reason you should be learning. |
| 23:46.30 | blondie | msg43: very noob? REALLY? |
| 23:46.36 | eeyore- | O RLY? |
| 23:46.52 | kspath_ | eeyore: true they are like a 333-550Mhz PIII in power |
| 23:47.11 | BiBe | sorry, i've not found a hint in man modprobe.conf. does it prevent to start the module behind "blacklist"? |
| 23:47.17 | eeyore- | kspath: cluster ought to be fun, though :-) some day. |
| 23:47.25 | mage | if i install apache-ssl thats like a separate install of apache right? |
| 23:47.27 | bucky | msg43, what your real question is "how do i keep it from defaulting to the apache2-default test page"... but you haven't even read the comments in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default |
| 23:47.28 | sifi | if Im deciding to use Emacs, should I use it the GUI or the shell version? |
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| 23:47.36 | eeyore- | kspath: now that i'm into converting my dvd's to on-disk format i might have to look into cluster |
| 23:47.37 | rendi | apt-get install mysql-server-5.0.17 |
| 23:47.38 | rendi | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 23:47.38 | rendi | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 23:47.40 | bucky | mage in apache2 it's not |
| 23:47.42 | rendi | can help me sir ? |
| 23:47.47 | Guerin | mage: yes. It can do everything apache can do, but it has ssl built-in |
| 23:47.49 | eeyore- | kspath: takes forever to transcode something ... |
| 23:47.52 | msg43 | bucky, I already got pass that step :) |
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| 23:48.05 | Guerin | BiBe: apache2 has ssl built in already, so it's moot |
| 23:48.08 | Guerin | bucky: |
| 23:48.14 | kspath_ | eeyore: with 4-8 of them just assign one or more to the task |
| 23:48.24 | sifi | BiBe, apache 2 is not treesafe |
| 23:48.28 | mage | hmm I dont even know why i have apache 1.3 on this |
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| 23:48.42 | BiBe | Guerin: apache2? blacklist. |
| 23:48.49 | kspath_ | eeyore: even if only one on task all others and your normal workstation are free to do other tasks |
| 23:48.53 | eeyore- | anybody here transcode dvd to xvid/divx format? what do you use (cpu) and how low do you go down to? (bpp) |
| 23:48.57 | rendi | E: Couldn't find package mysql-server-5.0.17 |
| 23:49.13 | bucky | mage http://ilovett.com/blog/2004/10/21/ |
| 23:49.36 | eeyore- | my athlon 2000+ was telling me it'd take about 6 hours to go from dvd to avi/xvid 720x480 |
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| 23:50.22 | msg43 | if I wanted to setup blog.msg43.net would I do <VirtualHost *blog.msg43.net> ? |
| 23:50.30 | blondie | no * |
| 23:50.38 | streuner | eeyore-: using what? |
| 23:50.41 | drivamgr2006 | Can someone please confirm to me the command for apt-get to upgrade to a different distribution please? |
| 23:50.43 | kspath_ | eeyore: set it before your biological down time (sleep) and went you are ready for next entertainment period it should be ready |
| 23:50.51 | Fixion | when I try to run mpg123, it returns the error: Can't find a suitable libao driver. (is the device in use?). I have the sound module installed and it finds the sound card, but sound doesn't work, anyone know what may cause this? |
| 23:50.52 | msg43 | blondie, so just <VirtualHost blog.msg43.net> ? |
| 23:50.59 | eeyore- | streuner: dvd::rip frontend, xvid codec, total of 700MB |
| 23:51.12 | thingfish | drivamgr2006: hahaha |
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| 23:51.19 | blondie | msg43: yes |
| 23:51.29 | hammerabi | drivamgr2006: dist-upgrade, generally |
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| 23:51.45 | drivamgr2006 | so just apt-get dist-upgrade? |
| 23:51.50 | thingfish | oh I thought he meant to like, switch to ubuntu or something. |
| 23:51.52 | blondie | affirmative |
| 23:51.59 | hammerabi | drivamgr2006: in addition to reading the release notes, yes |
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| 23:53.04 | drivamgr2006 | Well I have tried now for about 24 hours to get Sarge to work properly, and despite it being stable, its as unworkable as 10 yr old playdough. I can get nothing to work right after a day worth of fiddling and asking questions. |
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| 23:53.27 | hammerabi | upgrading is a terrible plan, then |
| 23:53.37 | g3brown | I was going to copy Sarge DVDs to hard to keep from inserting them when I apt-get. Would I need to copy the whole DVD or just say the 'pool' folder? |
| 23:53.47 | Fixion | why would mpg123 complain that it can't find a suitable libao driver, when I have libao2 installed? |
| 23:53.49 | g3brown | hard -> hard drive |
| 23:53.57 | bucky | apt-get install Fedora Core |
| 23:53.58 | hammerabi | g3brown: pool and dist |
| 23:54.04 | drivamgr2006 | My friend has suggested either backporting xorg to sarge, or upgrading to unstable |
| 23:54.11 | thingfish | hehe bucky |
| 23:54.11 | hammerabi | Fixion: because it can't open your soundcard, presumably |
| 23:54.15 | sifi | how can I change the colors at the /etc/bash (Ctrl+Alt+F[1234]), I just know how to do this at the gnome-terminal in GNOME |
| 23:54.18 | msg43 | blondie, that didn't work |
| 23:54.20 | msg43 | hmm |
| 23:54.21 | hammerabi | g3brown: or let it use the network |
| 23:54.21 | drivamgr2006 | Its XFree86 causing all the trouble |
| 23:54.29 | hammerabi | drivamgr2006: what video card do you have? |
| 23:54.34 | eeyore- | xored: back? |
| 23:54.35 | Fixion | hammerabi: could permissions be messed up? (I'm doing it as root) |
| 23:54.37 | drivamgr2006 | Intel 845GL Camino |
| 23:54.43 | g3brown | hammerabi: let it use the network. You mean like http: |
| 23:54.45 | blondie | msg43: you did the rest wrong then, probably :P |
| 23:54.47 | hammerabi | that should work fine with vesa |
| 23:54.48 | hammerabi | g3brown: yes |
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| 23:54.56 | hammerabi | Fixion: then probably not |
| 23:55.03 | hammerabi | Fixion: fuser -v /dev/dsp /dev/snd/pcm* |
| 23:55.18 | hammerabi | drivamgr2006: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2005/06/msg00431.html |
| 23:55.39 | Fixion | hammerabi: still the same error :/ |
| 23:55.53 | msg43 | blondie, would you look at it if i pastebin it? |
| 23:55.56 | Fixion | since when was alsaconf removed from alsa-utils? |
| 23:55.59 | hammerabi | Fixion: yes, that would not fix it, it would show you what is wrong |
| 23:56.05 | hammerabi | Fixion: alsaconf is of no use |
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| 23:56.17 | g3brown | hammerabi: If I made /var/apt/disc1 and copied to it pool and dist. Would my sources.list file be deb file:/var/apt/disc1/ / unstable contrib main ?? |
| 23:56.17 | Fixion | hammerabi: it didn't return anything |
| 23:56.18 | blondie | msg43: k |
| 23:56.32 | hammerabi | Fixion: "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp" produces sound? |
| 23:56.33 | seb- | how put Eclipse (only in sid) on Sarge? |
| 23:56.34 | drivamgr2006 | it doesnt hammerabi - the rest of the config defining mouse doesnt work either. My mouse is Logitech USB using imps2 protocol, but moves too fast in Display for me to do anything with it |
| 23:56.36 | msg43 | http://pastebin.com/475886 |
| 23:56.38 | sifi | how do I open the shell based Emacs? |
| 23:56.46 | blondie | type emacs? |
| 23:56.47 | seb- | sifi: emacs -nw |
| 23:56.56 | Fixion | hammerabi: well, that worked |
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| 23:56.59 | sifi | Seb, king =) |
| 23:57.07 | hammerabi | drivamgr2006: that is almost certainly a misconfiguration rather than an imcompatibility |
| 23:57.35 | msg43 | blondie, and this is the error I get when I restart apache. http://pastebin.com/475887 |
| 23:57.35 | hammerabi | Fixion: mpg321 -d oss foo.mp3 |
| 23:57.42 | seb- | sifi: now tell me how to grab 1 package from unstable ! :) |
| 23:57.47 | sifi | Seb, does it take long time to learn emacs from the very begining? |
| 23:57.50 | seb- | sifi: eclipse for stable |
| 23:58.02 | seb- | sifi: depends what you want to do with it |
| 23:58.16 | Fixion | hammerabi: same error (I don't think I have oss) |
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| 23:58.24 | hammerabi | sifi: 'ctrl-h t' will open up the tutorial |
| 23:58.25 | xored | eeyore-: yes. It seems like the eth1 card doesnt work right in linux |
| 23:58.27 | sifi | seb-, edit codes for PHP, sh, XML, XHTML etc |
| 23:58.39 | hammerabi | Fixion: if cat'ing to dev/dsp works, then you have working OSS |
| 23:58.43 | seb- | sifi: you can do basic editing in no time |
| 23:58.49 | eeyore- | xored: but eth0 works? |
| 23:58.54 | sifi | seb-, elight |
| 23:58.56 | seb- | sifi: programming emacs can take a while to do everything |
| 23:59.05 | Fixion | hammerabi: ah... so then why the no suitable libao driver error? |
| 23:59.23 | sifi | seb-, to learn the commands you mean? but just use typing with it should go fast |
| 23:59.40 | hammerabi | Fixion: I don't know, -d oss should work. |
