| 00:00.05 | thingfish | hehe |
| 00:00.20 | SimonRaven | HermanDE++ |
| 00:00.22 | thingfish | I disagree. Sometimes you find some very casual users here. |
| 00:00.36 | SimonRaven | thingfish: users of what, tell? |
| 00:00.38 | thingfish | very very very casual. |
| 00:00.40 | SimonRaven | ;) |
| 00:00.47 | thingfish | Ubuntu, mainly. |
| 00:00.49 | thingfish | ;) |
| 00:01.05 | deadcat | SimonRaven: damn. my x86 slim fucked me up. i tried to remove it now its giving me E: The package slim needs to be reinstalled, but I can't find an archive for it. |
| 00:01.12 | SimonRaven | oh, i was thinking brain cells <bah-dum-tssh> |
| 00:01.17 | HermanDE | I'm thinking of a yellow substance that arrives at the door in a bottle or can.... |
| 00:01.23 | deadcat | SimonRaven: i tried dpkg -i slim*.deb and it fails too |
| 00:01.24 | thingfish | oh those. |
| 00:01.28 | noway | I'm using XFCE and the screen is too big, when I move the mouse to the sides it scrolls sideways. Guess there's something wrong with the resolution but I can't figure out what since everything should be right. Here's my xorg.conf http://pastebin.com/480867 the resolution and refresh rates have worked before. Any ideas? |
| 00:01.33 | De_Mon | thingfish i do it because I want more up-to-date software |
| 00:02.08 | thingfish | De_Mon: that's fine, for you. But not for me. I want tried-and-true software. |
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| 00:02.58 | SimonRaven | deadcat: find the list file for it in /var/lib/dpkg/info, save that, but move it away. then do dpkg -P slim, then go and delete the slim crap by hand. then re-install it if you want |
| 00:03.14 | deadcat | SimonRaven: ok |
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| 00:03.24 | HermanDE | thingfish: I hear ya.... I was just trying to remember how many times I rebooted my C-64 because it froze.... |
| 00:03.30 | SimonRaven | deadcat: dpkg will whine about "but i can't find a list for ..." |
| 00:03.37 | SimonRaven | but just ignore that |
| 00:03.43 | De_Mon | thingfish no udev for j00 then |
| 00:03.53 | shadow98 | hey guys im trying to map drive to samba share and i get prompted for username and password but it keeps asking for it and no matter what i put it doesn't work |
| 00:04.02 | shadow98 | box only has a root user and myself as a user |
| 00:04.14 | SimonRaven | deadcat: BTW, it's a load of crap, doesn't do PAM |
| 00:04.15 | thingfish | De_Mon: sarge has udev. |
| 00:04.29 | thingfish | not that I can tell that it's using it, but it has it. |
| 00:04.49 | HermanDE | shadow98: Do you have your samba setup with user or share authentication? |
| 00:05.00 | phogg | shadow98: read smb.conf(5) |
| 00:05.10 | deadcat | SimonRaven: hows PAM affect slim? |
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| 00:05.48 | shadow98 | HermanDE: im trying to map to my /home/username |
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| 00:06.10 | deadcat | SimonRaven: i am gonna use your deb-src on the x86 box |
| 00:06.13 | azz | HI all |
| 00:06.32 | HermanDE | shadow98: That is a very common complaint... Check the docs.... |
| 00:06.56 | SimonRaven | deadcat: doesn't work with libpam-ldap nor -heimdal |
| 00:07.01 | HermanDE | shadow98: Which versions are you running? |
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| 00:07.26 | deadcat | SimonRaven: its local login here. so i think its ok |
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| 00:07.34 | shadow98 | 4.1 i believe |
| 00:07.49 | azz | 3.1 version i do apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get install gcc; apt-get install make. |
| 00:07.55 | SimonRaven | yeh |
| 00:07.58 | azz | and i try to install an ircd unreal |
| 00:07.58 | azz | checking for gcc... gcc |
| 00:07.59 | azz | checking for C compiler default output... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables |
| 00:08.24 | ruied | Trying to compile mplayer. ./configure --enable-gui reports an error saying it needs GTK devel package, what .deb package should I install? I've tried libgtk2.0 but it wasn't what mplayer wants... |
| 00:08.37 | deadcat | SimonRaven: update is bitching about your GPG, |
| 00:08.39 | thingfish | why are you compiling, when you can apt-get it. |
| 00:08.43 | thingfish | :/ |
| 00:08.57 | HermanDE | shadow98: Are you using the extreme alpha version of Samba? |
| 00:09.06 | deadcat | SimonRaven: hmm. it doesnt seem to see your slim source |
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| 00:10.06 | SimonRaven | deadcat: it's fucked for some as of yet unknown reason |
| 00:10.17 | botsy | do you know if they are a command for see who are connect on vsftpd ... i have test with who and whoami but it don't see them ... |
| 00:10.18 | whitehorse1 | hi |
| 00:10.18 | deadcat | SimonRaven: k. i see you have it in x86 (= |
| 00:10.23 | botsy | please help ma ... |
| 00:10.25 | botsy | me .. |
| 00:10.36 | SimonRaven | the gpg is fine |
| 00:10.47 | deadcat | SimonRaven: problem fixed by dpkg -i your deb |
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| 00:11.19 | thingfish | all problems are fixed by house music. |
| 00:11.38 | Scorp1on | could somebody help me with FreeS/WAN IPSec configuration? its all setup, but i can't connect to my VPN. it sais i dont have the right certificate |
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| 00:11.42 | nesys | hi folks ... I've a problem with sudoers ... I don't know, I've www-data user with NOPASSWD for a specific script, but when I run this, on apache error-log I see the password prompt :( |
| 00:11.44 | thingfish | well, house music + pot + booze. |
| 00:12.04 | DragonDav | ok now i have a problem... i setup Exim4(on a remote server) to run on interface 0.0.0.0 and can connect to the port from my home computer. but i don't recive anything. |
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| 00:12.34 | nesys | I have no idea |
| 00:13.40 | hammerabi | DragonDav: don't receive anything? |
| 00:13.45 | zOap | hammerabi, but that's what happened. I installed amule with the dependencies from unstable. Right after all fonts became smaller and in Scite they act all weird, jumping around on the screen and even makes it scroll when I use the keyboard.. So I guess it's not just the fonts but something else too/either.. |
| 00:14.16 | HermanDE | DragonDav: 0.0.0.0 means listen to everything. |
| 00:14.32 | DragonDav | HermanDE: yeah i know |
| 00:14.59 | hammerabi | DragonDav: as in you don't get the ESMTP banner, or you can't receive mail? |
| 00:15.10 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i open telnet on this computer open connection to the server shows conected but no responce |
| 00:15.13 | HermanDE | DragonDav: try and telnet to the server on port 25 |
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| 00:15.22 | deadcat | SimonRaven: i see you modified the slim init script (= |
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| 00:15.32 | DragonDav | HermanDE: i tried that |
| 00:15.34 | De_Mon | thingfish ok, it must have been lcd4linux I couldn't get |
| 00:15.53 | HermanDE | DragonDav: Is your isp blocking port 25? |
| 00:16.09 | hammerabi | telnet is not a very useful tool for that |
| 00:16.17 | hammerabi | nc is clearer about whether it connected or not |
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| 00:16.53 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i'm on windows here. |
| 00:17.00 | zOap | hammerabi, is there a way to roll back previous installed application/upgraded software? |
| 00:17.02 | DragonDav | HermanDE: no i can connect to my other server |
| 00:17.08 | hammerabi | zOap: no |
| 00:17.15 | hammerabi | DragonDav: what ip is it? |
| 00:17.20 | thingfish | nope, no way to roll back. You're fucked. |
| 00:17.22 | zOap | bummer.. this is relly annoying me.. |
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| 00:17.28 | hammerabi | zOap: not unless you know what to downgrade manually |
| 00:17.39 | IsoLnCHiP | Hi there. Does anyone know of a way to automatically put hosts on a blacklist (in the firewall) that for example flood connect to SSH? |
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| 00:17.50 | zOap | ok, is there a log of all that apt does? |
| 00:17.50 | DragonDav | netstat on the server shows connection and Recv-Q with com data in it... hammerabi: 209.190.4.34 |
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| 00:18.22 | compDo | What tool can play midi files? |
| 00:18.23 | hammerabi | zOap: no |
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| 00:18.30 | hammerabi | zOap: dpkg and aptitude do, tho |
| 00:18.35 | zOap | bummer yet again.. |
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| 00:18.39 | zOap | oh |
| 00:18.56 | SkArFaCe | can ne one help with mozilla |
| 00:19.22 | azeem | SkArFaCe: just ask your question, maybe somebody knows |
| 00:19.27 | DragonDav | hmm... hammerabi did you try? |
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| 00:19.59 | SkArFaCe | well everytime i open mozilla it ask me to pick a profile and it has never done that before |
| 00:20.14 | SkArFaCe | i just want to know if theres some sort of option where i can disable that |
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| 00:20.22 | thingfish | zOap: reinstall, stick with sarge this time. No bummers. |
| 00:20.34 | SkArFaCe | i recently installed flashplayer plugin and java so i dont know if that has to do n e thing with the problem |
| 00:20.55 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: remove the lock file |
| 00:21.03 | DragonDav | ok.. now i get 554 SMTP synchronization error |
| 00:21.03 | hammerabi | after making sure that it's not running anywhere else |
| 00:21.06 | SkArFaCe | where is that |
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| 00:21.13 | SkArFaCe | im new to debian |
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| 00:21.14 | SkArFaCe | so.. |
| 00:21.25 | hammerabi | that has nothing to do with Debian |
| 00:21.33 | hawking | hi are there any repos from which I can get java? |
| 00:21.48 | DragonDav | hammerabi: what has nothing to do with deb? |
| 00:22.15 | zOap | thingfish, hehe, well. I think I will try to fix this instead. Reinstalling is kinda giving in for the problem, which I will learn nothing from, besides not to to mix -t's |
| 00:22.17 | SkArFaCe | so how do i remove this lock file |
| 00:22.17 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: somewhere in ~/.mozilla/default/ |
| 00:22.19 | orchid | SkArFaCe: find .firefox/ -type l -name lock | xargs rm -i or similar |
| 00:22.28 | hammerabi | DragonDav: the server appears to be accessible to me just fine |
| 00:22.37 | SkArFaCe | under root or normal? |
| 00:22.47 | hammerabi | DragonDav: can you verify that you're not behind some sort of moronic PIX "firewall"? |
| 00:22.50 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: your user |
| 00:22.55 | hawking | !java |
| 00:22.55 | dpkg | i heard java is Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
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| 00:23.03 | hawking | !install java |
| 00:23.03 | dpkg | First, read <java licensing>. Still here? Install the java-package package (needs a contrib source), then ask me about java-package. |
| 00:23.14 | hawking | !java-package |
| 00:23.14 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 00:23.15 | DragonDav | PIX firewall? |
| 00:23.32 | De_Mon | compDo mpg123 ? |
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| 00:24.03 | SkArFaCe | ok |
| 00:24.09 | DragonDav | brb |
| 00:24.11 | SkArFaCe | do i go into firefox or mozilla |
| 00:24.15 | SkArFaCe | default dir |
| 00:24.21 | SkArFaCe | ? |
| 00:24.22 | hammerabi | DragonDav: a crappy device cisco used to make, that likes to interfere with smtp |
| 00:24.56 | compDo | De_Mon, mpg123 ? |
| 00:25.18 | De_Mon | compDo i checked, it doesnt. aptitude search midi revealed playmidi and pmidi though |
| 00:25.45 | SkArFaCe | dragondav |
| 00:25.51 | compDo | De_Mon, when I use playmidi I get the message "Could not open /dev/sequencer" |
| 00:26.05 | SkArFaCe | under mozilla/firefox i got z35vsojx.default user |
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| 00:26.14 | SkArFaCe | is that the file i shoul;d remove |
| 00:26.23 | zOap | hammerabi, and others.. It seems like Scite is the only one bugging on the fonts, besides that the fonts in x have been smaller. Abiword and openoffice works fine.. So I'll try to fix Scite.. this to notice.. |
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| 00:26.48 | SkArFaCe | hammerabi |
| 00:26.57 | roo9 | what is the name of the command-line tool that lets you cycle through X display modes? |
| 00:27.01 | De_Mon | compDo what sound daemon are you using? alsa or? |
| 00:27.20 | orchid | SkArFaCe: no, the file is called "lock" and it's a link |
| 00:27.26 | Justin | roo9: xvidmode ? |
| 00:27.30 | De_Mon | driver not daemon |
| 00:27.36 | compDo | De_Mon, sorry, don't know exactly. How can I figure it out? |
| 00:27.52 | SkArFaCe | can someone help me like 1 on 1 |
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| 00:27.59 | orchid | SkArFaCe: find -type l -name lock |
| 00:28.10 | orchid | SkArFaCe: type that in a terminal |
| 00:28.12 | DragonDav | hammerabi: how would i find out? |
| 00:28.16 | Unity | sry guys this is somewhat urgent but can you guys access my samba shares? |
| 00:28.22 | De_Mon | compDo that's a good question, and I'm not sure really.. |
| 00:28.32 | SkArFaCe | ok |
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| 00:28.48 | SkArFaCe | ./z35vspjx.Default User/lock |
| 00:28.52 | SkArFaCe | thats wat i got |
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| 00:29.12 | De_Mon | compDo lsmod|grep oss -e alsa might reveal some kernel modules that would give us a hint |
| 00:29.13 | orchid | SkArFaCe: thats the one |
| 00:29.19 | look | hey! could someone tell me what's the right way to set user's MAILDIR env-variable automatically? |
| 00:29.21 | SkArFaCe | how do i go about deleting it |
| 00:29.40 | De_Mon | compDo lsmod|grep -e oss -e alsa might reveal some kernel modules that would give us a hint |
| 00:29.41 | orchid | SkArFaCe: rm ./z35vspjx.Default User/lock |
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| 00:29.44 | robin_sz | SkArFaCe: same as you delete any other file |
| 00:29.52 | SkArFaCe | im new to debian |
| 00:29.53 | roo9 | justin: doesn't seem like xvidmode exists |
| 00:30.01 | SkArFaCe | matter fact do linux period |
| 00:30.06 | robin_sz | ah |
| 00:30.11 | look | i've already set in logins.def MAIL_DIR=Maildir/ |
| 00:30.13 | orchid | SkArFaCe: you should really do a bash tutorial, it's noting to do with Debian |
| 00:30.15 | look | but it doesn't work! :( |
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| 00:30.20 | Justin | roo9: no, xvidmode exists. |
| 00:30.27 | Justin | roo9: er, xvidtune |
| 00:30.33 | robin_sz | SkArFaCe: you need the basic tutorial, will save LOTS of pain |
| 00:30.39 | Justin | roo9: just type xvid and hit tab :-P\ |
| 00:30.41 | roo9 | ahhh, xvidtune, that was it, :) |
| 00:30.43 | look | hey? |
| 00:30.48 | roo9 | ty justin |
| 00:30.52 | hammerabi | DragonDav: talk to whoever tuns the network |
| 00:30.56 | abu_yasin | hey all:) |
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| 00:31.02 | look | i'm sure somebody here has set up his mail to get delivered in Maildir/ |
| 00:31.10 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: stop saying you're new to Debian, that has nothing to do with anything |
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| 00:31.29 | hammerabi | look: depends on lots of things |
| 00:31.31 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i got it. i wasn't waiting long enough... apperently it take a long time to do a reverse dns on my ip |
| 00:31.37 | hammerabi | DragonDav: ah |
| 00:31.50 | De_Mon | dpkg tell compDo about midi |
| 00:31.55 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: rm ~/.mozilla/default/whatever/lock |
| 00:32.07 | look | hammerabi, can you tell which ones? my users aren't getting their mail-env-variable configured right |
| 00:32.17 | DragonDav | hammerabi: so how can i "fix" that? |
| 00:32.25 | hammerabi | DragonDav: fix what? |
| 00:32.28 | look | my mta puts mail in Maildir |
| 00:32.42 | hammerabi | look: and your users are doing what? ssh'ing in? |
| 00:32.48 | look | hammerabi, yeah |
| 00:32.56 | hawking | anyone knows of a repository which has wine and java packages? |
| 00:33.00 | hawking | for sarge |
| 00:33.02 | hammerabi | hawking: wine is in Debian |
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| 00:33.39 | hawking | hammerab: and java? |
| 00:34.00 | hammerabi | hawking: /msg dpkg java |
| 00:34.16 | DragonDav | hammerabi: make it so it can connect faster |
| 00:34.36 | hammerabi | DragonDav: why does it matter? real mta's speak smtp properly and will wait. |
| 00:34.46 | hammerabi | DragonDav: it's a mta-specific setting, anyway |
| 00:34.57 | hammerabi | I have no idea how to do it in exim4 |
| 00:35.19 | hammerabi | look: you know that setting environment variables is unrelated to them using imap/pop, right? |
| 00:35.22 | SkArFaCe | hammerabi i dont have a default sub after ~/.mozilla |
| 00:35.29 | look | so no-one can help me :( |
| 00:35.37 | MadMax | http://stellano.ee/nodi/Screenshot.png |
| 00:35.45 | MadMax | how do i solve this problem |
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| 00:35.54 | MadMax | can anyone help please |
| 00:36.29 | Azar | I am looking at a list of utilities, my friend will be using this box I installed Sarge for him but he is on dialup.... is there a smart apt downloader utility, that keeps the connection up until the update/upgrade is done? |
| 00:36.42 | look | where is the MAIL env-variable set? |
| 00:36.50 | MadMax | its slow anyway |
| 00:37.26 | hammerabi | look: ... set it in /etc/profile or /etc/environment |
| 00:37.32 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: awesome |
| 00:37.37 | Azar | look I am so sorry I have no idea about mail config , never using mail |
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| 00:38.09 | Justin | Azar: apt-get upgrade -duy && poff && apt-get upgrade -y ? |
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| 00:38.27 | ruied | I'm compiling mplayer, after that can I make a .deb package? |
| 00:38.31 | CalJohn | is there anywhere the has a list of all the kernel module configuration options, and what they do? |
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| 00:38.36 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i used useradd to add a user and it did't creat a home dir. how can i change that? |
| 00:38.40 | MadMax | anyone care to help with the alsa |
| 00:38.42 | De_Mon | ruied mplayer already has debs |
| 00:38.42 | look | hmm... not in profile... and i haven't got environment file... |
| 00:38.43 | Azar | Justin is that some cool way to keep apt connected during upgrade? |
| 00:38.44 | look | but thanks anyway |
| 00:38.56 | De_Mon | ruied but sure you can make debs |
| 00:39.03 | Justin | Azar: cool? no |
| 00:39.20 | Azar | thank you Justin |
| 00:39.22 | hammerabi | DragonDav: don't use it |
| 00:39.25 | hammerabi | DragonDav: use adduser |
| 00:39.36 | DragonDav | umm ok.... why? |
| 00:39.39 | hammerabi | CalJohn: the kernel source |
| 00:39.40 | ruied | De_Mon, can you point me out a god tutorial about that stuff? |
| 00:39.46 | hammerabi | DragonDav: because it makes homedirs? |
| 00:40.00 | De_Mon | tell ruied about mplayer |
| 00:40.05 | De_Mon | dpkg tell ruied about mplayer |
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| 00:40.35 | DragonDav | hammerabi: wow that was a lot diff from FC3 |
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| 00:41.16 | magyar | MadMax, alsaconf |
| 00:41.30 | MadMax | what do i do there |
| 00:41.43 | magyar | MadMax, configure alsa |
| 00:42.07 | MadMax | ok looking for the file |
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| 00:42.30 | MadMax | but doesnt it do automatically it when i install debian |
| 00:42.45 | MadMax | i have a soundstorm |
| 00:42.54 | MadMax | and the sound itself works |
| 00:43.12 | MadMax | but when i boot up it gives the error |
| 00:43.28 | magyar | MadMax, what happens when you run "alsaconf" ? |
| 00:43.39 | whitehorse1 | hmm. I see Debian-Lex is still inactive. Most of the subprojects seem to be inactive really. Bar the possible exceptions of the med and edu ones |
| 00:43.44 | MadMax | one momement |
| 00:43.58 | SkArFaCe | ok where i can do a basic toturial or watever |
| 00:44.07 | SkArFaCe | so that i can f@#ing learn debian |
| 00:44.12 | SkArFaCe | >:-D |
| 00:44.15 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: most of the subprojects are just collections of packages anyway, so not a whole lot of activity is needed to keep them afloat. |
| 00:44.30 | dondelelcaro | !debian reference |
| 00:44.30 | dpkg | the debian reference guide used to be known as the debian quick reference [but now it's too big to be "quick"] and is available at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html |
| 00:44.37 | MadMax | i really didnt configure it through it because i thought it should be automatival |
| 00:44.38 | dondelelcaro | SkArFaCe: try starting with the above if you know something about unix |
| 00:44.45 | Azar | is bastille a good choice or proshield could work better? |
| 00:44.47 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: just as well; their mailing list is a reservoir of spam g |
| 00:44.47 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i know i'm prollable getting pritty annoying by now but how do i set default aliases for all users? |
| 00:44.49 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: stop saying "Debian" when you really mean "Unix-like systems" |
| 00:44.56 | hammerabi | DragonDav: I don't know what that means |
| 00:45.07 | hammerabi | Azar: best to avoid bastille entirely if at all possible |
| 00:45.17 | dondelelcaro | DragonDav: in /etc/profile or /etc/bashrc or similar. Depends on what you're trying to do. |
| 00:45.18 | SkArFaCe | stop this stop that <^>! |
| 00:45.18 | orchid | SkArFaCe: http://rute.2038bug.com/rute.html.gz is pretty good |
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| 00:45.23 | magyar | MadMax, its x86 platform never bullet proof |
| 00:45.28 | DragonDav | dondelelcaro: thanks |
| 00:45.35 | hammerabi | DragonDav: oh, shell aliases |
| 00:45.46 | Azar | proshield disables the use of X while in root, removes portmap , creates backup and blocks root logins over ssh.. |
| 00:45.52 | dondelelcaro | DragonDav: if you're trying to make a command visible to all users, the best method is often to write a short shell script in /usr/bin instead of using aliases. |
| 00:45.54 | whitehorse1 | Would anyone be willing to assist me with following through with some advice I received on the ALSA mailing-list re setting up my sndcard? Possibly involves removing kernel modules |
| 00:45.58 | Azar | hammerabi, ok I never used bastille |
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| 00:46.08 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: just ask your question. |
| 00:46.15 | whitehorse1 | It sounds like your ALSA modules were not compiled against the same |
| 00:46.15 | whitehorse1 | kernel version you are running, or you did not remove all snd-* modules |
| 00:46.15 | whitehorse1 | before trying to install the new ones. |
| 00:46.18 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: removing kernel modules is almost never the right answer. |
| 00:46.31 | whitehorse1 | oh |
| 00:46.31 | d03boy | I just plugged in an SDcard into this computer by using a USB connector thing. How do I know what the "drive" name is for it? |
| 00:46.52 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: what kernel are you running? (uname -r) what soundcard do you have? |
| 00:47.01 | magyar | whitehorse1, you tried alsaconf? |
| 00:47.01 | Azar | d03boy you need to enable USB modules for that device with modconf |
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| 00:47.23 | Unity | can someone help me checx if my box is open to the internet? |
| 00:47.41 | CalJohn | is there anywhere the has a list of all the kernel module configuration options, and what they do? |
| 00:47.42 | Azar | Unity, what OS are you running? |
| 00:47.50 | dondelelcaro | Unity: you can check yourself. use netstat -plunt; and see. |
| 00:48.01 | whitehorse1 | Well I only compiled the drivers (ie .configure) last night, and there were no kernel updates in that time. Kernel: 2.6.12-1-686 and a Dell OEM SB Live 5.1 snd-emu10k1x. |
| 00:48.09 | MadMax | but can i just over install it |
| 00:48.16 | dondelelcaro | CalJohn: no, but most of them are documented in Documentation/ inside of the kernel source. |
| 00:48.18 | d03boy | Azar, i dont have anything called modconf on here... |
| 00:48.25 | whitehorse1 | magyar yep many times. hence install of drivers frm ALSA site :) |
| 00:48.49 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: and why did you install the drivers from the alsa site? |
| 00:49.06 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: you should be using the ones that were distributed with that kernel, since snd-emu10k1x should be there. |
| 00:49.08 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: Because the ones in the repository (Etch) didn't work for my card |
| 00:49.18 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: ideally, yep :/ |
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| 00:49.31 | CalJohn | donelelcaro: most are fine, but sometimes that documentation goes a little over my head :( |
| 00:49.34 | cheal | hey dondelelcaro, how is your webmin upload going? |
| 00:49.41 | magyar | whitehorse1, sound blaster 5.1 is a bit problematic |
| 00:49.57 | whitehorse1 | magyar: Dell's modified version of it is even more so! |
| 00:50.04 | MadMax | i myself have a soundstorm:( |
| 00:50.10 | magyar | whitehorse1, i have it at work and the channels are not working right |
| 00:50.17 | dondelelcaro | cheal: the bug is #341394; packages are there. |
| 00:50.42 | magyar | whitehorse1, the only one that worked for me right out of the box is any audigy |
| 00:50.51 | dondelelcaro | CalJohn: well, that's where they're located; most of the module parameters you wouldn't care about, since they should just work. |
| 00:50.59 | drivamgr2006 | Can someone please help me stop the artsd service so it doesnt restart? I am trying to send CW Morse over IRC and cant hear my sounder... I need to stop arstd since its using the sound device |
| 00:51.02 | foot | Unity, http://www.auditmypc.com/ |
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| 00:51.16 | caroline | i have an odd problem with dhcpd. when i try and ping my client from the dhcpd server, there's no problem. however when i try to ping from a client i get a "localhost dhcpd: send_packet: Operation not permitted" on the dhcpd host and from the client side the ping times out. any ideas guys? |
| 00:51.35 | CalJohn | dondelelcaro: ok, thankyou |
| 00:51.36 | cheal | dondelelcaro: ok, good |
| 00:51.41 | foot | caroline, you dont have permissions |
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| 00:51.52 | caroline | foot, yes but what permissions? |
| 00:52.15 | foot | rw permissions |
| 00:52.40 | caroline | foot, i've setup /etc/dhcpd.conf and it works as a dhcpd server, yet doesn't send packets to any kind of request. |
| 00:53.00 | hammerabi | caroline: when you ping a machine, you get an error from dhcpd in syslog about it? |
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| 00:53.06 | caroline | hammerabi, yes |
| 00:53.24 | caroline | hammerabi, i've been tailing /var/log/syslog and this is what i see each time |
| 00:53.26 | foot | somebody smarter will help you. i just know that some writing to sockets won't work unless i sudo it. |
| 00:53.32 | zOap | how do I set which fonts x should use? |
| 00:53.36 | blondie | eh, what does DHCP have to do with pinging? |
| 00:53.40 | caroline | foot, interesting.. cheers |
| 00:53.40 | d03boy | I just plugged in an SDcard into this computer by using a USB connector thing. How do I know what the "drive" name is for it? |
| 00:53.51 | foot | :) |
| 00:54.00 | blondie | d03boy: dmesg |
| 00:54.06 | caroline | blondie, i'm pinging the host of the dhcpd server from a client that was successfully granted an IP |
| 00:54.12 | blondie | d03boy: probably sda or similar |
| 00:54.13 | dondelelcaro | caroline: are you root? |
| 00:54.13 | zOap | d03boy, check dmesg and mount it to wherever you want |
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| 00:54.34 | blondie | caroline: sure, but what does that have to do with dhcp? |
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| 00:54.38 | foot | caroline, the client doesnt have write permissions to the socket |
| 00:54.47 | foot | or so it sounds to me |
| 00:54.58 | SerajewelKS | hrm i can't sync my palm for some reason. i start the sync on the palm, and dmesg shows that the kernel attached it to /dev/ttyUSB0, but 'pilot-xfer -p /dev/ttyUSB0 -i somefile.prc' hangs |
| 00:55.05 | hammerabi | caroline: are both machines running Debian kernels? |
| 00:55.12 | caroline | dondelelcaro, the dhcpd server is started as root yes, but my client (192.168.0.10) can't ping the server nic (192.168.0.1) |
| 00:55.14 | blondie | you're just typing "ping hostname" where hostname is your DHCP server? |
| 00:55.17 | dondelelcaro | caroline: what does stat -c "%a\n" /bin/ping; return? |
| 00:55.32 | caroline | dondelelcaro, i'll try |
| 00:55.43 | look | hmm interesting.... when i su - as user, the MAIL variable gets right, but when i ssh as user, it doesn't... and yes, i have set in pam.d ssh session optional pam_mail.so standard noenv dir=~/Maildir/ |
| 00:55.45 | SerajewelKS | is there some bug with 2.6.12 that borks palm syncing, or am i doing this wrong? |
| 00:55.51 | look | any ideas? |
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| 00:56.15 | caroline | dondelelcaro, "4755\n" |
| 00:56.23 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: did you press the button on the palm? |
| 00:56.34 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: yes, ^^^ |
| 00:56.35 | caroline | blondie, no, the nic itself. |
| 00:56.50 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: have you set the palm to the right speed? |
| 00:56.51 | blondie | er the IP address, right ok |
| 00:57.03 | caroline | blondie, i'm connecting with a crossover cable from the client to the nic on the server |
| 00:57.23 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: you can't change the speed for USB |
| 00:57.24 | Azar | I need to know which MBmon Daemon port could I use in order to enable the gkrellm sensors for Temperatures and Fans ? |
| 00:57.32 | blondie | caroline: are you trying to ping as root? |
| 00:57.39 | SkArFaCe | i still need help with firefor |
| 00:57.40 | caroline | blondie, no i'm not |
| 00:57.42 | SkArFaCe | firefox* |
| 00:57.49 | blondie | caroline: have you tried doing that |
| 00:57.50 | blondie | ? |
| 00:57.53 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: er, didn't you say mozilla earlier? |
| 00:57.55 | is | blondie, i will now |
| 00:57.58 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: on the other hand, i've never used this cradle before. i suppose the cradle could be faulty. |
| 00:58.01 | look | what sets the environment variables when user logs in via SSH? |
| 00:58.04 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: uh... sure you can. |
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| 00:58.08 | SkArFaCe | mozilla firefox..isnt it the samething |
| 00:58.14 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: no |
| 00:58.15 | blondie | look: .bashrc etc |
| 00:58.15 | SkArFaCe | it says mozilla firefox |
| 00:58.23 | TGoC | what was the command again to see what processor is in the machine under debian? |
| 00:58.23 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: rm ~/.mozilla/firefox/default.*/lock |
| 00:58.25 | SkArFaCe | ok this is wat happends |
| 00:58.29 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: please try to be more specific in future |
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| 00:58.35 | hammerabi | TGoC: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 00:58.49 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: which version of OS? |
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| 00:59.06 | is | blondie, no, still gets operation not permitted |
| 00:59.07 | SkArFaCe | i open 1 window browser and then i try to open another and it give me the user profile chooser |
| 00:59.10 | look | blondie, only that i don't have MAIL variable specified in .bashrc... when i ssh in, my MAIL is /var/mail/user but when i su - as user, it gets set /home/user/Maildir |
| 00:59.11 | magyar | is, chmod +s `which ping` && chmod +s `which traceroute` |
| 00:59.12 | Azar | man gkrellm states that CPU/motherboard temperature/fan/voltages for linux requires a sensor configured sysfs, lm_sensors modules, where could I get those from modconf? |
| 00:59.17 | SkArFaCe | and i cant open another browser unless i make another one |
| 00:59.21 | SkArFaCe | so.. |
| 00:59.25 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: in the hotsync app, all i see on the menus is conduit setup, network setup, vpn setup, and log |
| 00:59.49 | is | magyar, cheers |
| 00:59.51 | blondie | is: does the network from the client machine work for other things? |
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| 00:59.58 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: it's not in the hotsync app. It's in Prefs->Connection->Details |
| 01:00.03 | TGoC | and memory? @ hammerabi |
| 01:00.05 | De_Mon | hrm.... I just tried to 'ls' the contents of a smbfs mount of a 2,800 file 9G directory and have since transfered over 3G. wth? |
| 01:00.11 | d03boy | how can I mount my SD card? I tried doing autofs in the fstab and then mounting it to /mnt/mkdir but it didnt like the fs type |
| 01:00.25 | blondie | try vfat as the fs thype |
| 01:00.25 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: oh, right. mine is set at 57,600 bps |
| 01:00.26 | blondie | -h |
| 01:00.27 | is | blondie, no it doesn't, though it's granted an IP |
| 01:00.45 | Azar | what is a sensor configured sysfs? |
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| 01:01.16 | blondie | is: oh, operation not permitted is on the server... well being root on the client won't affect that |
| 01:01.21 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: try setting it to 115,200; then trying it again. also, the kernel won't actually associate the device with a serial port until you've hit the hotsync button... so you'll need to check dmesg after having done that. |
| 01:01.26 | blondie | hm |
| 01:01.27 | De_Mon | Azar huh? |
| 01:01.32 | is | blondie, hehe yeah i did wonder what we were doing ;) |
| 01:01.43 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: yes, i know |
| 01:01.52 | Azar | De_Mon, what is a sensor configured sysfs? |
| 01:01.52 | is | magyar, well i don't want to change the permissions on ping on the client. should i with that chmod command? |
| 01:01.54 | dondelelcaro | blondie: what precisely is the error you're getting on the server? |
| 01:01.55 | MadMax | if i have a kernel 2.6.12 what modules for alsa do i need then |
| 01:01.58 | SkArFaCe | hammerabi i dont get when you type default.* |
| 01:02.06 | De_Mon | Azar your question makes no sense sysfs is a filesystem |
| 01:02.22 | dondelelcaro | blondie: are you running selinux or something else? |
| 01:02.35 | Azar | I guess I need a "sensor" configuration in the sysfs and I have no idea how |
| 01:02.38 | blondie | dondelelcaro: umm not me |
| 01:02.49 | is | i'm getting " Dec 28 13:58:51 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.2 from 00:0a:e4:3c:41:3a via eth0" \n "Dec 28 13:58:51 localhost dhcpd: DHCPACK on 192.168.0.2 to 00:0a:e4:3c:41:3a via eth0" \n "Dec 28 13:58:51 localhost dhcpd: send_packet: Operation not permitted" |
| 01:02.55 | De_Mon | oooh |
| 01:03.02 | blondie | is: do you have an iptables rules setup on the server? |
| 01:03.05 | is | when i ping from a client |
| 01:03.09 | is | blondie, yes |
| 01:03.13 | magyar | is, there is no other ways, if you have no permision to execute |
| 01:03.20 | blondie | is: maybe they're blockign it |
| 01:03.39 | is | magyar, it's not execution permissions, it's send_packet permissions on a server in response to a ping |
| 01:03.49 | is | blondie, i'll have another look. cheers |
| 01:03.50 | SerajewelKS | blondie: "operation not permitted" is a local error |
| 01:04.02 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: modconf shows the following kernel module (kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1: emu10k1x) is not installed. Is installing it via modconf likely to assist in the attempts to get the ALSA drivers working? I'm assuming no kernel compiling would be needed. |
| 01:04.02 | blondie | SerajewelKS: local to what? |
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| 01:04.15 | De_Mon | Azar did you install.. sysfsutils? |
| 01:04.16 | blondie | SerajewelKS: that message appears on the server not the client |
| 01:04.39 | SerajewelKS | blondie: right, it's local to the server |
| 01:04.49 | De_Mon | (aptitude|apt-cache) search sysfs lists a few packages |
| 01:04.53 | SerajewelKS | blondie: some permissions are preventing dhcpd from sending the ACK |
| 01:05.09 | blondie | ok, beats me |
| 01:05.16 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: hrm still doesn't work |
| 01:05.32 | Azar | De_Mon, not specifically.. I had no idea of such |
| 01:05.47 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: fortunately i just remember that i can sync over wifi |
| 01:06.02 | Azar | De_Mon, I am trying to figure out how to enable sensors in GKrellM |
| 01:06.08 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/snd-emu10k1x.ko |
| 01:06.35 | De_Mon | Azar i'm pretty sure you need sysfsutils to populate sysfs |
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| 01:06.42 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: in linux-image-2.6.12-1-686; so if you don't actually have that module, you're not running a debian kernel. |
| 01:06.45 | De_Mon | (never used it myself) |
| 01:07.14 | d03boy | can anyone help me figure out how to mount my sd card? |
| 01:07.56 | dondelelcaro | Azar, De_Mon: nah, you don't need sysfsutils. |
| 01:08.04 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: I mean "type exactly what I said" |
| 01:08.24 | dondelelcaro | Azar, De_Mon: sysfs is just another filesystem like procfs. you just mount it. |
| 01:08.26 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: that module is visible in the Konqueror browser in that path, and I'm definitely running etch with a debian kernel [compiling my own is over my experience level ;)]. Running modinfo though shows that module with a minus sign by it, indicating it isn't installed (enabled?) |
| 01:08.28 | is | what i'm trying to do here guys is set up internet connection sharing from a linux box on dialup for a single client. |
| 01:08.33 | Azar | the man documentation is so poor or at best not eloquent |
| 01:08.36 | is | any advice to this end? a nice utility? |
| 01:08.43 | hawking | is there a way to run a script as root automatically every time the computer is turned off or rebooted? |
| 01:08.49 | Azar | ah thanks dondelecaro |
| 01:08.51 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: run modprobe emu10k1x; and then check dmesg|less to see what happened. |
| 01:08.57 | whitehorse1 | ok ty |
| 01:08.59 | De_Mon | dondelelcaro so add it to /etc/fstab and ur done? |
| 01:09.26 | hammerabi | hawking: to do what? |
| 01:09.38 | dondelelcaro | De_Mon: no, you don't even need to add it there. Just mkdir /sys; and the init scripts should mount it on the next reboot. |
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| 01:09.41 | hammerabi | is: shorewall makes that fairly painless, so does ipmasq, as long as you don't want to do anything complicated |
| 01:10.17 | dondelelcaro | De_Mon: /etc/init.d/mountvirtfs: domount sysfs "" /sys |
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| 01:10.34 | SkArFaCe | can someone help mounth cd-rom |
| 01:10.43 | mushrooomprince | hello room |
| 01:10.50 | dondelelcaro | !room |
| 01:10.50 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 01:10.53 | Bedge | mount /cdrom |
| 01:11.07 | mushrooomprince | I stand corrected, channel |
| 01:11.16 | SkArFaCe | the device |
| 01:11.20 | SkArFaCe | now the cd |
| 01:11.21 | SkArFaCe | not* |
| 01:11.37 | hawking | hammerabi : just for fun merely... I'll add a script that will change the grub splash screen and it will display smth different everytime computer is on |
| 01:11.40 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: typing the modprobe returned Fatal: module not found. Then, entering dmesg:less returned a long list about unknown symbols and disagreeing with versions |
| 01:12.10 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: reinstall linux-image-2.6.12-1-686. then try using modprobe again. |
| 01:12.37 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: Okay, can I just do that via synaptic (apt-get frontend) with no special parameters? |
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| 01:13.09 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: just apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-1-686; it's easier. |
| 01:13.20 | Azar | could be there a nice Xwindows based tool that would show the size of the HD, and basic system info as CPU type, Debian version, memory size, video device specs? |
| 01:13.21 | whitehorse1 | ok |
| 01:13.47 | common | Azar: gkrellm |
| 01:13.48 | hawking | hammerabi : no waY? |
| 01:14.01 | dondelelcaro | Azar: df -h; cat /proc/cpuinfo; cat /etc/debian_version; free; xdpyinfo; |
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| 01:14.38 | DragonDav | how do i change boot up services in debain? |
| 01:14.46 | hammerabi | hawking: add a script to the shutdown sequence |
| 01:14.50 | dondelelcaro | DragonDav: which boot up services? |
| 01:15.05 | hawking | hammerabi : how? |
| 01:15.09 | embrik | sony sucks, Anyone know how to play sonystage on debian? |
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| 01:15.31 | DragonDav | netbios-ssn |
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| 01:15.48 | embrik | not sonystage, but sonicstage |
| 01:15.55 | bbrazil | DragonDav: have you got samba installed? |
| 01:16.05 | hammerabi | hawking: by writing a script to do it? |
| 01:16.13 | hammerabi | hawking: base it on /etc/init.d/skeleton |
| 01:16.17 | DragonDav | bbrazil: prolly... |
| 01:16.24 | DragonDav | i don't like samba |
| 01:16.31 | bbrazil | DragonDav: then is should already be running |
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| 01:16.36 | bbrazil | DragonDav: *it |
| 01:16.49 | Azar | dondelecaro, nice :) |
| 01:16.59 | DragonDav | bbrazil: how do i stop it? i don't want samba |
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| 01:17.02 | DragonDav | or do? |
| 01:17.03 | whitehorse1 | that's apt-get install --reinstall install linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 I think |
| 01:17.05 | Azar | cmmon, gkrellm does not show the size in MB of the HD |
| 01:17.07 | dondelelcaro | DragonDav: then remove samba. |
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| 01:17.08 | DragonDav | or do i*? |
| 01:17.17 | bbrazil | DragonDav: samba is what you use for netbios-ssn and friends on unix |
| 01:17.19 | embrik | DOes anyone know how to convert mp3 to actrac (sony's proprietary format) |
| 01:18.02 | Azar | embrik google and look for your player's developer |
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| 01:18.21 | DragonDav | bbrazil: does it let windows connect to it? |
| 01:18.40 | bbrazil | DragonDav: yes (unless you configure it otherwise) |
| 01:18.51 | jshoenberger | Gah! Total mind blank! What's the name of the file that tells all the other files where to find the libraries |
| 01:19.02 | DragonDav | bbrazil: since i have it installed how do i get windows to connect to it? |
| 01:19.03 | bbrazil | jshoenberger: ld.so.conf? |
| 01:19.06 | jshoenberger | thank you! |
| 01:19.07 | jshoenberger | rofl |
| 01:19.27 | odla | is there any advantage of using emacs? |
| 01:19.32 | odla | i currently use vim |
| 01:19.40 | spatulasnout | lol |
| 01:19.40 | bbrazil | DragonDav: first make sure its running, does 'pgrep smbd' return some numbers? |
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| 01:20.07 | bbrazil | jshoenberger: associated command is ldconfig iirc |
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| 01:20.29 | DragonDav | bbrazil: yes |
| 01:20.31 | orchid | odla: depends on what your needs are |
| 01:20.34 | embrik | Azar: done that, doesn't seem there is a soluton. In order to use Sony NW HD5, you have to have windows |
| 01:20.35 | jshoenberger | damn! That wasn't the file I was looking for, perhaps you fellows could help me then |
| 01:20.35 | cheryl | hi there. i was 'is' before.. asking about a ping problem |
| 01:20.52 | cheryl | does anyone know of a good internet connection sharing utility? |
| 01:21.03 | odla | orchid: i don't really have 'needs' per se |
| 01:21.08 | bbrazil | DragonDav: then in windwos do a \\ip.address.of.debian\ |
| 01:21.15 | odla | orchid: i use vi mainly for text editing |
| 01:21.17 | jshoenberger | I know I have php4 installed but still, when I run a .php file through the web, it asks me to download the index.php. this is because it's not finding php properly, yes? |
| 01:21.18 | embrik | Was just hoping someone here had a hack or something which could convert mp3's into atrac (sony's format) |
| 01:21.34 | DragonDav | bbrazil: it time's out |
| 01:21.34 | embrik | azar: |
| 01:21.35 | cheryl | i have a pc on dialup and have a client connected to this linux pc from nic to nic with crossover cable.. |
| 01:21.38 | bbrazil | jshoenberger: apache2? |
| 01:21.42 | jshoenberger | yes |
| 01:21.47 | hammerabi | jshoenberger: did you really install the php apache module? |
| 01:21.53 | dondelelcaro | jshoenberger: have you installed libapache2-mod-php4? |
| 01:21.53 | bbrazil | jshoenberger: a2modenable php4 or something |
| 01:21.57 | mushrooomprince | what is the best version of debian out at the moment ? |
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| 01:22.02 | jshoenberger | wow, lemme give it a shot |
| 01:22.20 | embrik | mushr.: sarge? |
| 01:22.28 | jshoenberger | you caught me! I guess I assumed only php4 would be needed |
| 01:22.30 | jshoenberger | Thanks! |
| 01:22.36 | Ironhand | odla: vim requires an endless supply of space Esc keycaps, emacs extra fingers |
| 01:22.42 | mushrooomprince | embrik, would that be like 3.0 ? |
| 01:22.53 | bbrazil | DragonDav: hmm, try the following: net use * \\ip.of.the.box\yourusername /U:yourusername (yourusername == username on debian box) |
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| 01:23.22 | hammerabi | hm, I have voip service now |
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| 01:23.45 | jshoenberger | Now I just have to finish configuring phpmyadmin :D |
| 01:23.45 | embrik | mushr..: sorry I download an educational distro, bulit on sarge, don't know the version |
| 01:23.58 | cheryl | how do debian users share internet connections? |
| 01:24.05 | dondelelcaro | mushrooomprince: it's 3.1 |
| 01:24.07 | cheryl | with iptables and dhcpd? |
| 01:24.10 | odla | emacs almost seems like a whole window manager... |
| 01:24.11 | DragonDav | bbrazil: nothing |
| 01:24.12 | hammerabi | cheryl: I quite like shorewall |
| 01:24.12 | bbrazil | mushrooomprince: sarge 3.1 is the current stable debian |
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| 01:24.26 | dondelelcaro | cheryl: or just install ipmasq; depends on what you're trying to do. |
| 01:24.29 | mushrooomprince | If I download 3.0 and install it, how difficult is it to ugprade to 3.1 ? |
| 01:24.34 | orchid | odla: it can be if you like |
| 01:24.34 | hammerabi | cheryl: people tend to use layer on top of iptables rather than iptables itself; tho basic masquerading is 3 lines of iptabling. |
| 01:24.35 | dondelelcaro | mushrooomprince: trivial. |
| 01:24.40 | hammerabi | mushrooomprince: trivial if you have the bandwidtrh |
| 01:24.45 | DragonDav | bbrazil: in smb.cfg i have security = user commented out |
| 01:24.48 | dondelelcaro | hammerabi: it's actually just one line of iptables... |
| 01:24.59 | cheryl | dondelelcaro, i have one machine online via dialup and another debian laptop connected to it via crossover cable. |
| 01:25.08 | odla | well i'm just curious if i'm missing out on a pretty sweet package |
| 01:25.11 | bbrazil | DragonDav: hmm I forget what the default security level is, one sec |
| 01:25.14 | hammerabi | dondelelcaro: hm, right, plus ip_forward |
| 01:25.14 | mushrooomprince | hammerabi, it sounds like you could probably do just some kind apt command to upgrade the system. |
| 01:25.16 | dondelelcaro | !masq |
| 01:25.17 | dpkg | masq is, like, See: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Masquerading-Simple-HOWTO/index.html by JohnFlux :), or do "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o <output interface device, such as eth0> -j MASQUERADE ; echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" and view the rules with iptables -t nat -L |
| 01:25.23 | mushrooomprince | I'm not entirely familiar with debian but I have spent a few months on mepis |
| 01:25.24 | hammerabi | mushrooomprince: yes, precisely |
| 01:25.27 | dondelelcaro | cheryl: see above. |
| 01:25.31 | hammerabi | mushrooomprince: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 01:25.35 | orchid | odla: it has a built in tutorial, give it a try |
| 01:25.40 | cheryl | dondelelcaro, i've been using http://www.linuxathome.net/iptables.php .. but ok i will.. cheers |
| 01:25.47 | bbrazil | DragonDav: ah, user is the default |
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| 01:26.08 | mushrooomprince | 0_o |
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| 01:26.18 | bbrazil | DragonDav: try this on the debian box : smbclient -L '\\lcoalhost\' |
| 01:26.27 | bbrazil | DragonDav: *localhost |
| 01:26.43 | cheryl | shit.. postrouting. of course |
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| 01:26.52 | cheryl | i'm postrouting to eth0 on the connected machine |
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| 01:27.13 | DragonDav | bbrazil: asked for a password and my passwords didn't work |
| 01:27.23 | mushrooomprince | is it just because its easier, or are you pretty much forced to use the command line to do many tasks in linux >? |
| 01:27.34 | bbrazil | DragonDav: can you post your smb.conf? |
| 01:27.38 | embrik | mushr..: I may be out of line, but this is the link for my download, this distro is bulit on debian 3.1. |
| 01:27.42 | dondelelcaro | cheryl: the -o will most likely be ppp0 in your case. |
| 01:27.43 | hammerabi | mushrooomprince: simpler in manmy cases |
| 01:27.45 | DragonDav | bbrazil: one sec |
| 01:27.51 | embrik | mushr..: http://ftp.skolelinux.no/skolelinux-cd/debian-edu_sarge-i386-current.iso |
| 01:28.31 | mushrooomprince | embrik, I'm terrified of the education version. Mostlyb ecause I don't know the difference between it and the regular version |
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| 01:29.38 | gentgeen__ | mushrooomprince, the education version is designed for educators (teachers) -- so it is prob. a bit easier then the "regular" version |
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| 01:29.50 | mushrooomprince | oh |
| 01:29.56 | dondelelcaro | it's not really a big deal; the command line becomes second nature after a while... |
| 01:29.59 | gentgeen__ | it is not education version as in "Learn Debian" |
| 01:30.02 | TGoC | Hey, i got a new debian install and installed everything i need for webserver and so, i only have 1 problem, if i try sending mails trough php they won't be sent... (and i can't join ##php because caffinated doesn't like me) |
| 01:30.05 | DragonDav | bbrazil: darn it.... |
| 01:30.09 | dondelelcaro | most people who use computers for more than a few hours a day prefer the command line. |
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| 01:30.14 | embrik | the differense, I think is the programmes following in it. KDE3, and some educational stuff and open office 1.1.3 and some more.. Mostly useful stuff. It fits on a cd:-) |
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| 01:30.42 | bbrazil | DragonDav: actualy I think I might know why that failed. lets try a different approach for a bit |
| 01:30.49 | hammerabi | TGoC: you need to investigate what "won't be sent" means |
| 01:30.57 | hammerabi | TGoC: ie read your MTA logs and see if it gets that far or not |
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| 01:31.11 | TGoC | ok |
| 01:31.13 | DragonDav | bbrazil: http://209.190.4.34/smb.conf there |
| 01:31.16 | bbrazil | DragonDav: from the windows system look for a workgroup called 'Debian' (I'm assuming you have a default config) |
| 01:31.20 | mushrooomprince | I'm mostly interested in having debian with a really pretty gnome configuration. And then I want to be able to play any kind of media format I throw at it and with some decent burning software I would be set |
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| 01:31.43 | DragonDav | bbrazil: the debain is a remote server |
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| 01:32.18 | bbrazil | DragonDav: ah, there could be a firewall in the way |
| 01:32.24 | gentgeen__ | mushrooomprince, you tried Ubuntu? |
| 01:32.24 | embrik | mushr..: the edu-version is very easy to install, choose language, and install-type (standalone, appserver, fileserver, ..) EASY installaing! |
| 01:32.30 | DragonDav | bbrazil: there's not |
| 01:32.48 | embrik | gentgeen: what's ubuntu's pro? |
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| 01:33.00 | TGoC | Could you tell me where that MTA log is located? |
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| 01:33.14 | TGoC | wow, 600 users :o |
| 01:33.15 | bbrazil | DragonDav: you can telnet to port 139? |
| 01:33.22 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: ok back, thanks. reinstalled linux-image as advised and rebooted after install. when I run the modprobe emu10k1x command, I still get "Fatal: Module emu0k1x not found". If I just type modprobe emu10k1 (which is the creative labs version of the card; I'm using the Dell OEM SB Live 5.1 i.e. the emu10k1x), it simply returns to the command prompt with no error message |
| 01:33.28 | gentgeen__ | embrik, He said he is used to mephis - so similar- but wants gnome.... |
| 01:33.29 | hammerabi | TGoC: depends on the MTA |
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| 01:33.33 | hammerabi | TGoC: often /var/log/mail.log |
| 01:33.34 | gentgeen__ | thats all |
| 01:33.37 | bbrazil | TGoC: /var/log/mail.log |
| 01:33.49 | gentgeen__ | I perfer Debian "pure" myself |
| 01:34.04 | DragonDav | bbrazil: i did smbclient -L '209.190.4.34' from my other server. and it got connected but again bad password |
| 01:34.07 | hawking | u ever tried that? |
| 01:34.09 | embrik | gentgen: ok |
| 01:34.38 | TGoC | it is in there hammerabi |
| 01:34.50 | whitehorse1 | Should I run modconf and install the emu10k1x module? |
| 01:34.51 | bbrazil | DragonDav: you might need to do some setup with smbpasswd |
| 01:34.57 | TGoC | /var/mail/www-data |
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| 01:35.11 | embrik | gentgen:I like KDe3. What is the advantages of gnome? |
| 01:35.33 | gentgeen__ | I don't know -- just preference -- He wanted gnome...... |
| 01:35.37 | DragonDav | bbrazil: i thought it would be user based |
| 01:35.38 | odla | hawking: did you get 2.6.14 from backports.org? |
| 01:35.38 | gentgeen__ | personally I use Blackbox |
| 01:35.38 | TGoC | Mailing to remote domains is not supported, is the error it sent back hammerabi |
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| 01:35.52 | mushrooomprince | there are no advantages .... I just like gnome. Functionality wise it reminds me of os ten |
| 01:35.54 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: what does uname -r; return? what does ls -l /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/sound/pci/emu10k1/ return? |
| 01:35.58 | hawking | odla : no I found an image with 2.6.14 configured |
| 01:36.10 | bbrazil | DragonDav: its messy :), because of how SMB works with auth it doesn't send anything that UNIX can use |
| 01:36.14 | Shadowcat | 2.6.14 is STILL broken in sid |
| 01:36.15 | d03boy | how in thee hellz do I mount this sdcard? its /dev/sda but I cant figure out what to put in fstab |
| 01:36.16 | foo | I am getting this error when I boot my system: "Missing kernel or user mode driver i810_audio on boot." ... I am installing debian, any ideas? |
| 01:36.23 | gentgeen__ | KDE is too much eye candy for me ... gnome is doing to much "weird" stuff for me (mainly the Nautalus stuff) |
| 01:36.24 | hawking | are mozilla web browser and firefox two different things? |
| 01:36.29 | bbrazil | DragonDav: so one of the options is that samba keeps its own password database |
| 01:36.32 | dondelelcaro | gentgeen__: so don't use either... |
| 01:36.32 | gentgeen__ | hawking, yes |
| 01:36.33 | embrik | anybody experienced with music and mp3-players? |
| 01:36.34 | hawking | I'm just confused |
| 01:36.42 | Azar | I have doodooed on gkrellm creted too many cdrom mount points and I look everywhere I can to see how to remove them, anyone good with gkrellm? |
| 01:36.43 | mushrooomprince | embrik, I have some experience |
| 01:36.51 | gentgeen__ | dondelelcaro, I dont -- use Blackbox :-) |
| 01:36.52 | hawking | gentgeen__ : so how can i get firefox instead of this mozilla? |
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| 01:37.01 | DragonDav | bbrazil: i did the smbpasswd thing |
| 01:37.14 | hammerabi | TGoC: then someone misconfigured your MTA, you'll need to fix that |
| 01:37.19 | bbrazil | DragonDav: try the smbclient again |
| 01:37.23 | DragonDav | bb i think i'm getting it |
| 01:37.28 | gentgeen__ | hawking, mozilla-firefox |
| 01:37.35 | TGoC | how do i do that? |
| 01:37.45 | TGoC | I really don't know much about mailing |
| 01:37.47 | hawking | gentgeen__ : and what to do to remove mozilla browser? what's the name of that package? |
| 01:37.48 | gentgeen__ | hawking, apt-get install (or aptitude install) mozilla-firefox |
| 01:37.55 | bbrazil | DragonDav: good, now at ;east we know that samba is working |
| 01:38.11 | bbrazil | DragonDav: try that net use line now from the windows system |
| 01:38.20 | whitehorse1 | uname -r = 2.6.12-1-686 and the ls output is in #debian-flood (5 lines) |
| 01:38.34 | gentgeen__ | hawking, do "apt-cache seach mozilla | less" you will see all the packages with "Mozilla" in the name |
| 01:38.37 | gentgeen__ | you can find it that way |
| 01:38.38 | DragonDav | bbrazil: nothing again. |
| 01:38.42 | whitehorse1 | ..but I don't have an emu10k1 but an emu10k1x of course, dondelelcaro |
| 01:39.01 | DragonDav | but i got ... from my other server.... |
| 01:39.06 | hawking | gentgeen__ k thx |
| 01:39.07 | Azar | how can I see mounted fs so I can umount ? |
| 01:39.11 | embrik | mush.: I've got a serious problem. My son bought a Sony today, only cabable to play it's own format atrac. So he can't copy his mp3-files from his Linux-box. This just triggs him, to say that Linux sucs. I try to say that it's Sony that sucs, but I'm loosing, I thik :_) |
| 01:39.20 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: use #flood, not #debian-flood... |
| 01:39.24 | bbrazil | DragonDav: linux server? |
| 01:39.25 | gentgeen__ | Azar, as root "mount" with no options |
| 01:39.34 | Azar | thanks, gentgeen__ |
| 01:39.36 | DragonDav | bbrazil: yeah |
| 01:39.45 | DragonDav | ls |
| 01:39.47 | bbrazil | DragonDav: okay, now we're down to a windows problem |
| 01:39.49 | DragonDav | oops... |
| 01:39.50 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: obviously, but if you're actually running Debian, emu10k1x will be there. |
| 01:40.04 | bbrazil | DragonDav: first try to telnet to ports 139 or 445 |
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| 01:40.31 | embrik | I've tryed to google for help this afternoon, without luck so far, hoping tha tsomeone on this channel colud help me |
| 01:40.42 | DragonDav | bbrazil: windows got network name cannot be found |
| 01:40.43 | gentgeen__ | embrik, tell him to try to copy the mp3s from windows --- he will (hopefully) see that the problem is not the OS, but Sony |
| 01:40.54 | gentgeen__ | :-) |
| 01:40.58 | bbrazil | DragonDav: are you using the debian box's ip address? |
| 01:41.02 | TGoC | hammerabi, how can i reconfigure it? and what do i exactly need to reconfigure? |
| 01:41.06 | hammerabi | TGoC: who is the sysadmin for the system? |
| 01:41.10 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro I'm running etch and only etch. emu10k1x is in the list that modconf has but has a minus by it, the output in #flood is what I get. :/ There's zero doubt I'm running Debian. Not Linspire, Ubuntu or any variation |
| 01:41.11 | DragonDav | bbrazil: yeah |
| 01:41.15 | DragonDav | with /user |
| 01:41.16 | TGoC | i am :P |
| 01:41.26 | TGoC | that's probably one of the problems :) |
| 01:41.27 | hammerabi | TGoC: what mta are you using? |
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| 01:41.32 | bbrazil | DragonDav: what exact command are you running? |
| 01:41.32 | TGoC | got no idea |
| 01:41.34 | embrik | yes, I've done that. And we have to use the f* software in windows as well, still this is a problem. |
| 01:41.38 | DragonDav | i can't connect to thoes ports |
| 01:41.47 | bbrazil | DragonDav: firewall :) |
| 01:41.51 | hammerabi | TGoC: good luck then |
| 01:42.07 | TGoC | How can i find out what MTA i am (not) using? |
| 01:42.10 | DragonDav | bbrazil: where tho |
| 01:42.24 | bbrazil | DragonDav: handy program by the name of tcptraceroute |
| 01:42.42 | mushrooomprince | :-D |
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| 01:42.50 | bbrazil | DragonDav: no idea if there's a windows equivilent, maybe try from a nearby unix system? |
| 01:42.51 | mushrooomprince | :-P..... ( . Y . ) |
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| 01:43.16 | DragonDav | bbrazil: i don't have linux at home |
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| 01:43.35 | bbrazil | DragonDav: are you trying to connect to a system across the net? |
| 01:43.39 | TGoC | hammerabi got it |
| 01:43.41 | TGoC | Exim4 |
| 01:43.41 | TGoC | ? |
| 01:43.42 | gentgeen__ | DragonDav, time to fix that :-) |
| 01:43.46 | littleball | hello, when i try to create mount points on Raid partition, what is the "Number of spares"? |
| 01:43.54 | embrik | Maybe I would try to install the f* |
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| 01:44.09 | DragonDav | gentgeen__: waiting on a motherboard and cpu then i'm installit |
| 01:44.11 | d03boy | how can I format my sd card to be fat32? |
| 01:44.20 | hammerabi | d03boy: be very wary of that |
| 01:44.22 | DragonDav | bbrazil: yeah |
| 01:44.31 | gentgeen__ | embrik, have you tried wine? |
| 01:44.32 | d03boy | hammerabi, why? |
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| 01:44.41 | bbrazil | DragonDav: that is a really, really bad idea |
| 01:44.47 | d03boy | hammerabi, I just want to mount the darn thing but its not working :\ ... i think its already fat32 |
| 01:44.54 | DragonDav | bbrazil: for samba... |
| 01:44.54 | botsy | the command for restart vsftpd is /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart na ? |
| 01:44.56 | DragonDav | ? |
| 01:44.56 | darkpadden | littleball, how ever many extra drives you have set aside for backup i think |
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| 01:44.58 | hammerabi | d03boy: uh, then reformating it is a terrible idea |
| 01:45.06 | d03boy | hammerabi, why? |
| 01:45.08 | hammerabi | d03boy: figure out what is going on instead of beating it with a sledgehammer |
| 01:45.12 | bbrazil | DragonDav: yes, unencrypted files and passwords not much better |
| 01:45.22 | kanzure | what should be done when I receive the message "Dynamic MMap ran out of room" from apt-get update? |
| 01:45.24 | embrik | Maybe I woluld try to install the f* software from sony into my linux-box. I've tried wine. Didn't work. Any other suggestions? |
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| 01:45.29 | bbrazil | !mmap |
| 01:45.29 | dpkg | dynamic mmap is, like, "E: Dynamic MMap ran out of room" when using apt-get, put the following line into your /etc/apt/apt.conf: 'APT::Cache-Limit 12582912;' . if you still get the same error, increase the value. if that file doesn't exist, add it, or put it in a file in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/ The release notes tell you to use Aptitude, not apt-get, for Sarge upgrades. see <release notes> |
| 01:45.32 | d03boy | hammerabi, I have been asking in here but nobody seems to know/care |
| 01:45.33 | DragonDav | bbrazil: ok then buy buy samba |
| 01:45.40 | embrik | gentgeen: I've tried wine :-) |
| 01:45.43 | d03boy | /dev/sda /mnt/sda auto user,noauto,rw,umask=00 0 |
| 01:45.43 | bbrazil | DragonDav: can I interest you in WinSCP? |
| 01:45.50 | botsy | yes no ? |
| 01:45.54 | DragonDav | what is winscp? |
| 01:45.56 | hammerabi | d03boy: blah blah blah |
| 01:46.05 | hammerabi | d03boy: uh, don't mount sda |
| 01:46.08 | hammerabi | d03boy: mount sda1 |
| 01:46.09 | gentgeen__ | embrik, something like bochs them maybe -- if you have the disk space |
| 01:46.11 | bbrazil | DragonDav: windows program that works over ssh - like a gui ftp client |
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| 01:46.17 | d03boy | hammerabi, well that helps then |
| 01:46.24 | gentgeen__ | embrik, or qmu |
| 01:46.27 | hammerabi | "no one answered me, so I want to break it" is not a reasonable thought process |
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| 01:46.33 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, hey thanks alot for the ipmasq page you gave me. the rules are now all up on the machine (this one) on dialup. is there any reason you can think of why i can't ping from the client now? it has an address in the same range (192.168.0.2) but i can't ping the connected machine's nic (192.168.0.1) |
| 01:46.41 | gentgeen__ | s/qmu/qemu |
| 01:46.58 | embrik | gentgen: how do I install qmu, apt-get? |
| 01:47.16 | gentgeen__ | if you are using testing, ues |
| 01:47.18 | gentgeen__ | yes |
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| 01:47.36 | DragonDav | bbrazil: i have FileZilla that works like that |
| 01:47.36 | dondelelcaro | cheryl_: if you can't ping the connected machine's nic, then you're generally not actually connected. |
| 01:47.39 | embrik | gentgen: I'll try |
| 01:47.43 | hawking | let me be your king |
| 01:47.43 | TGoC | yo hammerabi |
| 01:47.44 | TGoC | thanks |
| 01:47.50 | gentgeen__ | qemu lets you emulate the whole computer, so might be overkill |
| 01:47.58 | TGoC | you made me realize i didn't install sendmail yet, love you :) |
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| 01:48.04 | hammerabi | TGoC: wtf |
| 01:48.19 | hammerabi | TGoC: if you have no idea what you are doing, installing sendmail is just about the worst possible plan |
| 01:48.21 | TGoC | It works now |
| 01:48.23 | bbrazil | DragonDav: that looks like it does the same job |
| 01:48.25 | gentgeen__ | dpkg, qemu? |
| 01:48.34 | gentgeen__ | opps, thats not right |
| 01:48.36 | embrik | gentgen: I may not have the right adresse in soursce list |
| 01:48.39 | TGoC | hammerabi well it works? and i don't see a better option in my newbie eyes... |
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| 01:48.59 | TGoC | Besides sendmail is supported by the DataCentre the server is in :) |
| 01:49.12 | hammerabi | TGoC: fixing exim4 would have taken about 5 seconds, and left you with a MTA you could actually handle in the future |
| 01:49.14 | bbrazil | DragonDav: once you've got your linux system setup you might be able to setup a ssh tunnel to the remote system and smbmount across it, and then mount that from the windows system (hack) |
| 01:49.17 | embrik | gentgen: overkill? ok, Il wait.. |
| 01:49.19 | gentgeen__ | deb http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
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| 01:49.25 | dondelelcaro | TGoC: are you actually receiving mail on that machine? |
| 01:49.29 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, yes you're right. i can ping the client from the connected machine, but not vice versa |
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| 01:49.33 | karsten | How would I disable the system bell? |
| 01:49.36 | TGoC | yes dondelelcaro and sending :) |
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| 01:49.49 | TGoC | But i just need the mail function of php to work (wich works now) so |
| 01:49.51 | DragonDav | bbrazil: that sounds cool |
| 01:49.57 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, weird isn't it!? |
| 01:50.04 | TGoC | hammerabi exim4 is installed |
| 01:50.18 | dondelelcaro | cheryl_: uh... you set up the iptables rule on the machine that actually has the connection, right? |
| 01:50.21 | kanzure | karsten, aren't there some options in places like the KDE control panel, should you happen to have it installed? |
| 01:50.21 | embrik | gentgen: somebody said overkill, should I tak a rest? |
| 01:50.24 | TGoC | But i tought you wouldn't want to help me with it because i'm not smart enough |
| 01:50.32 | bbrazil | DragonDav: it is in some ways - in others its ugly |
| 01:50.33 | cacto | how can i know if Im using alsa or oss? |
| 01:50.38 | TGoC | So i thought, mmz wouldn't sendmail fix it, and it did :) |
| 01:50.40 | kanzure | cacto: osstest ? |
| 01:50.43 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, hehe yes of course |
| 01:51.12 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, i' m still getting the "Dec 28 14:50:12 localhost dhcpd: send_packet: Operation not permitted" in the syslog of the connected machine when the client is trying to ping it. |
| 01:51.16 | dondelelcaro | cheryl_: ok... then you should be able to ping both directions... what is the output of ifconfig; and route -n; for the other machine? |
| 01:51.39 | hammerabi | "mmz"? |
| 01:51.48 | dondelelcaro | cheryl_: that shouldn't matter, since dhcpd has nothing to do with ping packets coming from the clientt. |
| 01:51.50 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: was d/c'd from #flood again. so placed lsmod output in http://pastebin.ca/35022 |
| 01:51.59 | gentgeen__ | embrik, http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/about.html |
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| 01:52.06 | embrik | gentgen: what about cedega? |
| 01:52.15 | cacto | thanks kanzure |
| 01:52.24 | kanzure | cacto, no problem |
| 01:52.29 | DragonDav | is there any reason i need postgresql? |
| 01:52.31 | gentgeen__ | embrik, qemu emulates the whole computer |
| 01:52.40 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, ok i'll type it out |
| 01:52.42 | gentgeen__ | embrik, cedega might work |
| 01:52.51 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: # |
| 01:52.52 | bbrazil | cheryl_: hmm, that log line sounds like you've got a firewall blocking port 67/68 |
| 01:52.54 | cacto | command not found = alsa? |
| 01:53.04 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: snd_emu10k1x 19908 2... so it supposedly loaded. |
| 01:53.04 | hammerabi | cacto: alsa is not a command |
| 01:53.05 | bbrazil | DragonDav: do you need SQL? |
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| 01:53.10 | kanzure | cacto: you can also try alsaconf (as a command) |
| 01:53.10 | hammerabi | DragonDav: it's a database... |
| 01:53.16 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: you chould be able to cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp0 now. |
| 01:53.21 | jsz_ | anyone know how I can run a .mrc script or port it to perl? |
| 01:53.22 | hammerabi | any plan involving alsaconf is basically crap |
| 01:53.26 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, first line: 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 01:53.27 | kanzure | hey, uh, is it bad if dpkg is trying to remove initrd-tools ?? |
| 01:53.34 | SerajewelKS | hrm |
| 01:53.42 | DragonDav | i prefer mysql |
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| 01:53.51 | SerajewelKS | lots of programs are showing "*** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0xdeadbeef ***" recently |
| 01:53.52 | jsz_ | Im using X Chat |
| 01:53.52 | cheryl_ | dondelelcaro, next line 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 01:53.55 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: that returns cat: write error: No space left on device |
| 01:54.09 | bbrazil | DragonDav: then use it, although postgres would be my preference |
| 01:54.15 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, hmm but i port 80 from the client doesn't work either. |
| 01:54.17 | DragonDav | what is afpd? |
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| 01:54.29 | DragonDav | bbrazil: why may i ask? |
| 01:54.29 | hammerabi | DragonDav: apt-cache search afpd |
| 01:54.30 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: uh... are you using udev or something? |
| 01:54.35 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 01:54.37 | SerajewelKS | is there a known problem with glibc's memory management? |
| 01:54.49 | whitehorse1 | Like a good Debian-er I am using udev |
| 01:54.56 | bbrazil | DragonDav: proper transation support among other things |
| 01:55.01 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: if there is, bugs would have been filed. |
| 01:55.16 | TGoC | anyway thanks for the help hammerabi |
| 01:55.43 | DragonDav | do i need afpovertcp? |
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| 01:55.55 | dondelelcaro | whitehorse1: if /dev/dsp0 isn't a device, delete the file that you created, and try using something like alsamixer to make sure that the mixer at least works. |
| 01:56.11 | hammerabi | DragonDav: why did you install all these things you don't understand? |
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| 01:56.33 | pattern | anyone know how i can get a scroll wheel on my keyboard to issue different commands depending on how many notches it is turned per second (a way that doesn't involve spawning a process per notch turned) ? |
| 01:56.44 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i didn't install them |
| 01:56.53 | hammerabi | DragonDav: then don't, and read their package description |
| 01:56.59 | hawking | sarge rocks! |
| 01:57.14 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i just got a server with all of this stuff allready installed |
| 01:57.19 | hammerabi | ew |
| 01:57.28 | gentgeen__ | pattern, "on my keyboard" ??? is that right? |
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| 01:57.41 | ruied | I'm installing kernl-image-2.6 it says: Failed to find suitable ramdisk creator what can I do? |
| 01:57.42 | gentgeen__ | anyway, maybe something with imwheel |
| 01:57.54 | cheryl_ | i might try a reboot |
| 01:57.58 | cheryl_ | bbl |
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| 01:58.59 | KLD | ruied: install yaird :) |
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| 01:59.17 | pattern | thanks, gentgeen |
| 01:59.34 | embrik | gentgen: I might try the demo version of cedega tehn, to see if it works (my wife just showed up. it may be time fo bed (local time 0300)) |
| 01:59.48 | DragonDav | so what installed what ever is running or port afpovertcp? |
| 02:00.02 | hammerabi | DragonDav: get rid of all that crap |
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| 02:00.30 | DragonDav | hammerabi: that's what i've been doing |
| 02:00.43 | hammerabi | DragonDav: and beat up which ever fucktard installed it all to begin with |
| 02:00.44 | gentgeen__ | embrik, lol -- later |
| 02:00.49 | ruied | KLD, I have that aready... doesn't nderstand much about this... |
| 02:01.02 | gentgeen__ | married also, know the feeling... "You mean it is that late already" |
| 02:01.09 | embrik | se yea, night .. |
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| 02:01.32 | KLD | ruied: thats what solved my problem when I had same error |
| 02:02.01 | KLD | read /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz |
| 02:02.23 | cacto | how can i configure VLC to use ALSA ? ;-) |
| 02:02.29 | KLD | following the steps to the letter |
| 02:02.38 | ruied | ok |
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| 02:03.33 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: yep, it created a file which I've now deleted. selecting alsamixer from the kde menu failed to open it, I opened the kmix app instead and ensured it was unmuted and volume was up |
| 02:03.46 | cacto | oh...sorry , there is a pluggin for that... |
| 02:04.01 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: http://lists.debian.org/deity/2005/12/msg00001.html |
| 02:04.35 | ruied | KLD, don't have the kernel-package folder.... |
| 02:04.38 | ruied | :( |
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| 02:05.07 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: does this mean that binaries that were linked dynamically against an older glibc will have problems? |
| 02:05.36 | DragonDav | ok now do i need lwresd? |
| 02:06.00 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: 'cause i doubt i can get the nice folks at bioware to recompile neverwinter nights |
| 02:06.17 | hammerabi | DragonDav: ... |
| 02:06.17 | hawking | what was the command to extract a tar.gz file? |
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| 02:06.20 | hawking | tar xzvf? |
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| 02:06.22 | hammerabi | DragonDav: the only network service you need is ssh |
| 02:06.25 | rusty- | Hello FOLKS ! |
| 02:06.35 | DragonDav | hammerabi: lol |
| 02:06.38 | rusty- | have a problem into compilation |
| 02:06.44 | hammerabi | DragonDav: do I sound like I'm joking? |
| 02:07.00 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: i guess i'm not too clear on what exactly the abi transition was, and what things it could impact |
| 02:07.03 | rusty- | Everytime I compile a package! This message occurs "checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
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| 02:07.08 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: and whether this is related at all |
| 02:07.19 | hammerabi | rusty-: what are you trying to compile? |
| 02:07.27 | shadow98 | is there a tool besides reconfiging x to configure screen resolutions in xfce? |
| 02:07.36 | rusty- | hammerabi, superkaramaba |
| 02:07.43 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: that's just for libapt afaik. |
| 02:07.43 | hammerabi | rusty-: which is in Debian already |
| 02:07.44 | rusty- | hammerabi, yakuak |
| 02:07.54 | rusty- | hammerabi, how ? |
| 02:07.58 | hammerabi | ... |
| 02:08.06 | hammerabi | !+info superkaramba |
| 02:08.16 | DragonDav | what is port 869? |
| 02:08.20 | rusty- | !+info superkaramba |
| 02:08.21 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: and the abi/api transition won't affect already built libraries unless someone totally screws things up. |
| 02:08.21 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: right, but what else does it extend to? could the apps this is happening on here (firefox, nwn) have the same issue, whatever that issue is? |
| 02:08.26 | hammerabi | DragonDav: get rid of *everything* that is not ssh |
| 02:08.28 | zulu42 | hi there, I patched my 2.6.14 kernel with suspend2 patch, the hibernate script works, then I acpitool -W ILAN in order to make my 3com integrated board to wakeonlan (p4p800 motherboard) then I used my other box to make etherwake thebox (the thing work with MSwinXP, so I suppose my hardware can do it) but in linux.. nothing happen :) |
| 02:08.32 | hammerabi | DragonDav: install whatever you actually want later |
| 02:08.36 | rusty- | hammerabi? |
| 02:08.57 | hammerabi | rusty-: I do not understand your contextless "how ?" |
| 02:08.59 | zulu42 | does anyone played with acpitool ? |
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| 02:09.07 | hammerabi | rusty-: did you mean "How do I install it from within Debian?" |
| 02:09.08 | rusty- | hammerabi, this message appear to me everytime I try to install a tarball package not even superkaramaba |
| 02:09.11 | zulu42 | and give me some ligth :) |
| 02:09.14 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: if it doesn't affect already-built libraries, then why did the abi transition break a lot of stuff? |
| 02:09.18 | hammerabi | rusty-: have fun |
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| 02:09.33 | rusty- | hammerabi, yeah |
| 02:09.41 | rusty- | hammerabi, but not exactly ! |
| 02:09.54 | DragonDav | hammerabi: i want to be carful. i don't want to remove something i need for the system to boot |
| 02:09.55 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: it didn't "break" anything. Things just weren't installable or needed to be rebuilt/renamed to be installable. |
| 02:10.03 | rusty- | hammerabi, Overall Is there a dibian package for superkaramaba ? |
| 02:10.07 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: ah, okay |
| 02:10.20 | hammerabi | DragonDav: and no network services are required to boot |
| 02:10.36 | SerajewelKS | dondelelcaro: so the abi transition was related more to how things were packaged, and it was the packages that were broken (missing dependencies, etc) |
| 02:10.45 | rusty- | hammerabi, & how do I get rid from this message WHAT"s this message means ? |
| 02:11.16 | dondelelcaro | SerajewelKS: it just meant that the packages were uninstallable; that sort of thing happens during any transition. |
| 02:11.36 | rusty- | hammerabi,? |
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| 02:11.51 | dondelelcaro | (or at least, during any transistion where the old libraries aren't kept around) |
| 02:12.03 | rusty- | folks, can anyone help me ? |
| 02:12.11 | hammerabi | rusty-: stop being so whiney |
| 02:12.16 | rusty- | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 02:12.20 | hammerabi | rusty-: you're wastign time compiling crap from source, for a start |
| 02:12.24 | SerajewelKS | rusty-: apt-get install karamba |
| 02:12.27 | rusty- | This message appear when I install any tarball package |
| 02:12.29 | hammerabi | rusty-: also, why don't you actually look for the X includes? |
| 02:12.31 | hammerabi | rusty-: e.g. xlis-dev |
| 02:12.40 | hammerabi | this is not #debian-hold-my-hand |
| 02:12.52 | whitehorse1 | dondelelcaro: thanks, have now inserted modules emu10k1x and snd-mixer-oss as per ALSA docs. The modules snd-pcm-oss and snd-seq-oss fail though due to unknown symbols or parameters in module |
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| 02:12.56 | dondelelcaro | hammerabi: relax, please. If somoene is bothering you use /ignore. |
| 02:13.02 | rusty- | hammerabi, I'm a debian newbie |
| 02:13.08 | rusty- | hammerabi, didn't know HOW |
| 02:13.11 | SerajewelKS | !newvie |
| 02:13.15 | SerajewelKS | !newbie |
| 02:13.15 | dpkg | from memory, newbie is someone who is new to linux or debian, and should read the docs (/usr/share/doc/) |
| 02:13.21 | SerajewelKS | wrong one =/ |
| 02:13.39 | dondelelcaro | rusty-: in general, if you're a newbie, you really don't want to be compiling things from source. Just use the extant Debian packages. |
| 02:13.50 | DragonDav | what is RPC used for? |
| 02:13.50 | rusty- | Guys: I'm just didn't understand the error message |
| 02:13.52 | rusty- | That's all ! |
| 02:13.59 | azeem | hammerabi: why did you change your nick anyway? |
| 02:14.00 | deadcat | DragonDav: nis nfs |
| 02:14.15 | DragonDav | ok what is nis and nfs? |
| 02:14.17 | rusty- | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 02:14.23 | rusty- | What am I supposed to do ? |
| 02:14.25 | deadcat | DragonDav: search |
| 02:14.29 | azeem | rusty-: check config.log |
| 02:14.30 | SerajewelKS | rusty-: i told you |
| 02:14.30 | rusty- | JUST explain it and don't advice |
| 02:14.42 | SerajewelKS | rusty-: apt-get install karamba |
| 02:14.46 | azeem | rusty-: building things from source is an art to master |
| 02:14.53 | azeem | there is no recipe which works all the time |
| 02:15.01 | hammerabi | rusty-: install xlibs-dev already |
| 02:15.09 | dondelelcaro | !tell rusty- -about search |
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| 02:15.45 | dondelelcaro | rusty-: there you can figure out which include file it's looking for and not finding, and install the appropriate -dev package. |
| 02:16.07 | dondelelcaro | rusty-: but as everyone as been saying, you really should just install the Debian package instead of compiling from source. You will thank us later. |
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| 02:17.45 | Servo888 | http://www.garkei.com/vadim/badfont.jpg | here's a picture of my screwed up fonts... Anybody know what could cause this? I think it might be kde related, I don't see any artifacts in other WM's |
| 02:18.23 | rusty- | hammerabi, apt-get install xlibs-dev |
| 02:18.41 | rusty- | you mean after I install xlibs-dev can I try ./configure a tarball ! |
| 02:19.01 | rusty- | dondelelcaro. Thanks I'll search and apt-get karamba |
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| 02:19.08 | dondelelcaro | s/has/is/ |
| 02:20.17 | d03boy | my comp keeps complaiming that it cant unmount /dev/sda1 because it is busy |
| 02:20.20 | d03boy | i cant see how ti is busy though |
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| 02:20.32 | SerajewelKS | d03boy: something has a file open on the mount |
| 02:20.32 | dondelelcaro | d03boy: use lsof to figure out what is using something on that filesystem. |
| 02:20.57 | SerajewelKS | d03boy: i might be a shell just sitting in /mnt/foo |
| 02:21.12 | SerajewelKS | d03boy: it* |
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| 02:24.07 | tempy | hi all, quick query: i run gentoo for my desktops (5) and slackware for my servers, but want to change server o/s to debian .. can debian build a small footprint linux server with LAMPP installed? |
| 02:24.38 | b14ck | According to Einstein's theory of relativity, Chuck Norris can actually roundhouse kick you yesterday. |
| 02:24.44 | hammerabi | tempy: of course, any system can |
| 02:24.50 | hammerabi | any useful one, anyway |
| 02:24.55 | d03boy | just a shell sittin in it |
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| 02:25.34 | tempy | k |
| 02:25.39 | tempy | ta |
| 02:26.46 | deadcat | can i change a users username from someone to s1 with everything the same? say usermod? or something |
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| 02:27.23 | karsten | deadcat: Sure. |
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| 02:27.45 | karsten | deadcat: ... or $EDIT /etc/passwd /etc/shadow. usermod is somewhat cleaner. |
| 02:27.59 | deadcat | k |
| 02:28.41 | omi2 | wget 1.10.1 still doesn't like large files too much |
| 02:30.05 | b14ck | Chuck Norris sleeps with a night light. Not because Chuck Norris is afraid of the dark, but the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris |
| 02:30.27 | deadcat | how you know? you slept with him? |
| 02:30.45 | b14ck | Chuck Norris counted to infinity - twice. |
| 02:30.55 | deadcat | stupid fuck |
| 02:31.17 | b14ck | If you can see Chuck Norris, he can see you. If you can't see Chuck Norris you may be only seconds away from death. |
| 02:31.22 | b14ck | <3 http://www.4q.cc/chuck/index.php?topthirty |
| 02:31.47 | deadcat | !ops b14ck is trolling around |
| 02:31.47 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: b14ck is trolling around |
| 02:32.16 | b14ck | =/ |
| 02:32.23 | b14ck | Sorry, was trying to get a few laughs. |
| 02:32.33 | azeem | b14ck: stop that, this channel is about Debian |
| 02:32.34 | odla | !chuck norris |
| 02:32.43 | azeem | odla: don't abuse the bot, please |
| 02:32.57 | odla | azeem: sorry...just wanted to see if there was an entry |
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| 02:33.12 | Myon | try /msg |
| 02:33.13 | sfullenwider | when I apt-get upgrade why are some packages kept back? |
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| 02:33.30 | azeem | sfullenwider: upgrade does not install new or remove current packages |
| 02:33.31 | odla | sfullenwider: you need to do apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 02:33.31 | Myon | because they might have new dependencies |
| 02:33.48 | Myon | you should probably be using stable if you are asking that |
| 02:34.04 | odla | sfullenwider: you can install those held back by apt-get install packagename |
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| 02:35.59 | Toma- | is there a way to make deb restore all the permissions set on files created with debs? |
| 02:36.20 | xsdg | Toma-: only thing I can think of would be to reinstall |
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| 02:36.32 | xsdg | Toma-: you can do it manually with a script also, if you want |
| 02:36.35 | Toma- | same. how about dpkg-reconfigure *? |
| 02:36.41 | azeem | Toma-: nope |
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| 02:36.47 | Myon | that doesn't reinstall all files |
| 02:36.51 | azeem | dpkg-reconfigure is just for redoing debconf stuff |
| 02:36.56 | Toma- | ahh. |
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| 02:37.40 | azeem | magyar: check the ones in the `mail' section of aptitude |
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| 02:39.14 | magyar | azeem, roger |
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| 02:40.25 | Toma- | what if someone has just boned /usr with wrong permissions? |
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| 02:40.35 | odla | tarzeau: b-n-b!!! |
| 02:40.44 | Toma- | could he set r/w to all then +x for /usr/bin + sbin? |
| 02:40.54 | Toma- | im pretty sure he cant |
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| 02:41.46 | azeem | Toma-: some things will break |
| 02:41.50 | azeem | I guess |
| 02:41.59 | azeem | for instance, all the suid programs |
| 02:42.02 | Toma- | yeh thought so. thx! |
| 02:42.49 | nemontemi | has anyone ever configured a Debian system on a IBM Thinkpad notebook? |
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| 02:43.22 | magyar | i doubt it |
| 02:43.26 | magyar | :) |
| 02:43.43 | marinka | hi, does anyone know where I can get some support on ipaq-linux |
| 02:43.58 | nemontemi | magyar was talkin to me? |
| 02:44.06 | magyar | try #ipaq-linux |
| 02:44.12 | azeem | nemontemi: lots of people run Debian on Thinkpads |
| 02:44.20 | azeem | nemontemi: check linux-laptop.net e.g. |
| 02:44.23 | marinka | tried and no luck |
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| 02:44.40 | nemontemi | azeem ok, thanx |
| 02:44.46 | Azar | what a GTK-based utility means? |
| 02:44.57 | azeem | Azar: GTK is a graphical toolkit, the one used by GNOME |
| 02:45.06 | nemontemi | that it used the GTK lib |
| 02:45.13 | Azar | azeem so only gnome users can use it? |
| 02:45.13 | azeem | so it basically means "looks similar to a GNOME app" |
| 02:45.17 | azeem | no |
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| 02:45.32 | Azar | ah thanks :) |
| 02:45.36 | cheryl | hi guys sorry to ask again but i'm trying to work out why i can ping a computer on my lan from one machine, but not in the other direction. i ran iptables --flush on both machines and so there are no firewalling rules running. |
| 02:45.36 | azeem | everybody can use it, but it will look most natural on a GNOME desktop |
| 02:45.42 | cheryl | s/can/can't |
| 02:45.45 | Azar | I intend to try gxproc |
| 02:45.51 | azeem | unless it is a GTK-1 based app, in which case it will look like shite everywhere |
| 02:46.13 | Azar | http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/gxproc |
| 02:46.23 | marinka | cheryl: try looking for arp replies, and check iptables-save |
| 02:46.26 | magyar | azeem, it will look good in kde also |
| 02:46.46 | azeem | magyar: I didn't say it looked bad |
| 02:46.56 | cheryl | marinka, ok i wil now |
| 02:47.01 | azeem | I said it would look most natural on a GNOME desktop |
| 02:47.01 | magyar | true |
| 02:47.10 | azeem | Azar: that one is GTK-1 |
| 02:47.13 | azeem | 03:40 < azeem> unless it is a GTK-1 based app, in which case it will look like shite everywhere |
| 02:47.21 | ruied | I'm installing kernl-image-2.6 it fails to find suitable ramdisk creator, I have mkinitrd.yaird and yaird but it doesn't work |
| 02:47.27 | Azar | oh |
| 02:47.30 | azeem | Azar: just install it, and see what it's like |
| 02:47.32 | ruied | any sugestions? |
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| 02:47.36 | Azar | :) yes |
| 02:47.48 | ruied | I'm using sid |
| 02:47.50 | dondelelcaro | ruied: if you're ugprading from kernel-image-2.4 to a new version of 2.6, that's unfortunatly not all that unusual. |
| 02:47.57 | cheryl | kc: how do i flush all that? |
| 02:48.07 | cheryl | i want no rules on either end so i can check the ping |
| 02:48.38 | ruied | dondelelcaro, yes I am, what can I do? |
| 02:49.16 | dondelelcaro | ruied: basically, you can make sure the intird (using yaird or whatever, assuming you've got them installed) is created properly, reboot, then finish the dpkg install. |
| 02:49.21 | kc | cheryl: flush policies for input output forward nat mangle etc... then accept for all policies |
| 02:49.26 | Agente_Mulder | hi please help with one pixelview playTV mpeg 2 in debian, i have kernel image 2.6.8 |
| 02:49.28 | kc | cheryl: you want the commands ? |
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| 02:50.05 | dondelelcaro | ruied: in the future, that will probably be supported, but because figuring out which modules to run while running 2.4 is rather difficult, you can't trivially go from 2.4.x to >> 2.6.14; |
| 02:50.24 | dondelelcaro | ruied: alternatively, you can install a linux-image package from the 2.6.12 series, and then later upgrade to 2.6.14 in unstable. |
| 02:51.10 | kc | cheryl: iptables --flush |
| 02:51.11 | kc | iptables -t nat --flush |
| 02:51.11 | kc | iptables -t mangle --flush |
| 02:51.12 | magyar | cheryl, take a look at "net.ipv4.ip_forward" |
| 02:51.27 | kc | iptables --policy INPUT ACCEPT |
| 02:51.28 | kc | iptables --policy OUTPUT ACCEPT |
| 02:51.28 | kc | iptables --policy FORWARD ACCEPT |
| 02:51.46 | Azar | azeem I must admit the graphical looks is not "awesome" but I get the info I need on the system |
| 02:51.48 | kc | ptables -t nat --policy PREROUTING ACCEPT |
| 02:51.48 | kc | iptables -t nat --policy OUTPUT ACCEPT |
| 02:51.48 | kc | iptables -t nat --policy POSTROUTING ACCEPT |
| 02:51.48 | kc | iptables -t mangle --policy PREROUTING ACCEPT |
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| 02:52.14 | dondelelcaro | kc: please do not paste here ever. |
| 02:52.21 | kc | iptables -A FORWARD -j ACCEPT |
| 02:52.23 | kc | iptables -A INPUT -j ACCEPT |
| 02:52.25 | kc | iptables -A OUTPUT -j ACCEPT |
| 02:52.25 | magyar | oops |
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| 02:52.37 | dondelelcaro | we are not learning quickly today... |
| 02:52.45 | magyar | -_- |
| 02:53.04 | magyar | all that turkey |
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| 02:53.10 | b0nn | hey all |
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| 02:53.28 | cheryl_ | kc: sorry, when i iptables --flush i lost the connection |
| 02:53.30 | b0nn | how do I get the install messages of a package that was previously installed by apt? |
| 02:53.38 | cheryl_ | kc: can you help me troubleshoot this? |
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| 02:54.13 | cheryl_ | i can't ping from one direction, but can from the other. iptables -L reveals no rules are present on either machine |
| 02:54.17 | magyar | cheryl, take a look at "net.ipv4.ip_forward" |
| 02:54.34 | Justin | cheryl_: you're forgetting about the default policy |
| 02:54.35 | ruied | dondelelcaro, the problem is that yaird is not vreating the initrd file... about the 2.6.12 I don't have one I just have a kernel-image-2.6-686 (I don't know much about his) |
| 02:54.38 | magyar | and whats with ping |
| 02:54.46 | cheryl_ | Justin, i don't know what that is.. |
| 02:55.02 | Justin | cheryl_: iptables -P INPUT ACCEPT;iptables -P OUTPUT ACCEPT |
| 02:55.06 | dondelelcaro | ruied: yaird won't, because it doesn't know which modules to include if you're not running a 2.6 kernel |
| 02:55.20 | dondelelcaro | ruied: only mkinitrd can do it, but that doesn't work for 2.6.14 kernels. |
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| 02:55.37 | cheryl_ | magyar, i have two computers connected with crossover cable. one is connected to the net via ppp0, the other is a client. the connected machine can ping a client but the client can't ping the connected machine |
| 02:56.03 | dondelelcaro | ruied: get http://packages.debian.org/testing/base/linux-image-2.6.12-1-686 or similar; install it, and then upgrade to 2.6.14 or whatever you're trying to install. |
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| 02:56.16 | dondelelcaro | (after rebooting, of course) |
| 02:56.16 | cheryl_ | Justin, still nothing from the client to the connected machine. but i can still ping the other way around. |
| 02:56.33 | ruied | dondelelcaro, thanks :) going to take a try |
| 02:56.44 | Justin | cheryl_: use something other than ping for testing. |
| 02:57.02 | magyar | cheryl, tell me what do you have in your "/etc/sysctl.conf" file? |
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| 02:57.16 | dondelelcaro | ruied: basically, the postinst is failing because if it didn't, you'd likley end up with an unbootable machine, which would be bad. |
| 02:57.18 | cheryl_ | Justin, like..? |
| 02:57.38 | magyar | tcpdump :) |
| 02:57.40 | cheryl_ | magyar, nothing |
| 02:58.05 | Justin | cheryl_: telnet/netcat/wget, traceroute, ... |
| 02:58.26 | ruied | dondelelcaro, getting the point... :) |
| 02:58.42 | cheryl_ | i can even get an IP from the client off the connected machine with dhcpd |
| 02:58.44 | cheryl_ | sheesh |
| 02:59.53 | cheryl_ | magyar, it seems nothing is going over eth0 |
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| 03:00.01 | grumpydog | cheryl_ netstat -an |
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| 03:00.27 | magyar | cheryl, than your nic or cable is dead |
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| 03:01.03 | cheryl_ | magyar, but then why can i ping from one machine but not from the other |
| 03:01.24 | magyar | cheryl, unplug the cable and see if you still can |
| 03:01.34 | cheryl_ | magyar, ok |
| 03:01.42 | beginer | i have a lot off errors in /var/log/samba/log.* (like [2005/12/28 04:59:22, 1] auth/auth_server.c:server_cryptkey(61) Password server loop - disabling password server *) |
| 03:01.42 | cheryl_ | ;) |
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| 03:01.47 | beginer | what i need to do? |
| 03:01.53 | magyar | -_- |
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| 03:02.08 | grumpydog | cheryl_ you can ping another box on the same local network without any internet connection. |
| 03:02.26 | beginer | i use samba just for master browser |
| 03:02.31 | drivamgr2006 | can I ask where I can get a bot who can kick off channel for things like people using bad language in text, or flooding in channel? |
| 03:02.46 | drivamgr2006 | Sorry, I would like to ask... ^^^ |
| 03:02.46 | Zerial | eggdrop ? |
| 03:02.52 | Azar | can anyone explain how did they came up with this name for this utility? A menstruation calendar |
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| 03:03.01 | magyar | drivamgr2006, #freenode |
| 03:03.25 | basilcrow | what's involved in making a package? |
| 03:03.27 | sussudio | !tell Zerial about away |
| 03:03.30 | drivamgr2006 | tried magyar... been in for a while but not been voiced by the gods yet |
| 03:03.35 | basilcrow | (e.g., taking a source .tar.gz that has never been packaged, and making a .deb out of it) |
| 03:03.35 | Justin | Azar: biology? |
| 03:03.44 | magyar | drivamgr2006, wait |
| 03:03.49 | drivamgr2006 | ok |
| 03:03.57 | cheryl_ | is internet sharing easier to setup in windows? |
| 03:04.04 | ke6isf | Is there an ssh analog to rexec? |
| 03:04.17 | bbrazil | ke6isf: ssh user@host 'command' |
| 03:04.17 | Zerial | sussudio, ok ok sorry |
| 03:04.18 | Azar | Justin im serious: http://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/mencal |
| 03:04.27 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Thanks |
| 03:04.40 | grumpydog | Azar: genrally that refers to a womans menstrual cycle, or with animals especially dogs, they only can get pregnant twice a year, normally once though. |
| 03:04.47 | magyar | cheryl, its a retorical question |
| 03:04.50 | bbrazil | ke6isf: you'll probably also want to setup key authentication |
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| 03:05.06 | ke6isf | bbrazil: I've tried, for some reason it still wants my password. |
| 03:05.14 | Azar | grumpydog, oh I thought is "men" related did not know what struation was |
| 03:05.36 | grumpydog | Azar well now you know ;-) |
| 03:05.44 | Azar | thanks |
| 03:05.52 | bbrazil | ke6isf: hmm, permissions alright? |
| 03:06.10 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Yeah, last I checked. Was 0700 or whatever the docs said to do. |
| 03:06.42 | cheryl_ | the weird thing is that the ping from the client just sits there until it times out, as though it thinks it's connected |
| 03:06.53 | bbrazil | ke6isf: try ssh -v, see if it tries to use the private key |
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| 03:07.01 | grumpydog | cheryl_ check your cable |
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| 03:07.21 | bbrazil | cheryl_: thats how ping usually works to a dead host |
| 03:07.40 | grumpydog | cheryl_ are you trying to connect to a local host or remote host? |
| 03:08.09 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, local |
| 03:08.27 | bbrazil | cheryl_: run this on both : ip neigh flush dev eth0 |
| 03:08.30 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, i've tried with a second laptop, it's the other machine |
| 03:08.35 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, ok, cheers |
| 03:08.41 | grumpydog | cheryl_ ok make sure you have a cross over cable not eth0 |
| 03:08.50 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, it's crossover apparently |
| 03:09.34 | b0nn | has the route been added for eth0? |
| 03:09.37 | grumpydog | cheryl_ to two nic cards you will need crossover, the cabling colours are almost the same |
| 03:09.51 | ke6isf | bbrazil: What messages shoudl I look for in that regard? |
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| 03:10.07 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, that command stalls on one machine |
| 03:10.42 | bbrazil | ke6isf: I forget the exact message - something like 'offering ~/.ssh/id_dsa' |
| 03:10.44 | grumpydog | cheryl- strongly sounds like it is a wrong cable |
| 03:10.49 | cheryl_ | i really think that one machine is blocking ping requests, but IPTABLES are flushed and showing no rules.. this is hard.. |
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| 03:11.01 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, right... ok |
| 03:11.09 | bbrazil | cheryl_: default policy on both machines is accept? |
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| 03:11.41 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, yes it is |
| 03:11.50 | dclarke | hello : question - is there a decent revision of Linux for the Sparc architecture anymore ? ? |
| 03:12.05 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, yet i have the same problem with both laptops trying to ping the tower machine |
| 03:12.05 | bbrazil | cheryl_: 'arp -a' - is everything correct? |
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| 03:12.24 | bbrazil | dclarke: I know people running Debian off an E450 |
| 03:12.24 | guluvan | I would like to rebuild my apache package, as I need to change the suExec options. Is there an easy way to do this (similar to how SRPMs and SPEC files work under Red Hat)? |
| 03:12.39 | dclarke | bbrazil : thank you |
| 03:12.39 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, that stalls on the laptop |
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| 03:12.54 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, but the tower sees my laptop with arp -a |
| 03:13.06 | dclarke | bbrazil : I have Debian 31r0a for Sparc here .. never boots |
| 03:13.08 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, oh no, it came through but took ages! |
| 03:13.11 | grumpydog | cheryl_ do you have cabling there and some RJ45 connectors so you can make a cat5 crossover |
| 03:13.12 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, amazing command btw |
| 03:13.19 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, hmm.. no ;) |
| 03:13.27 | MasterObi-WanK | hello , anyone can tell me the iptables Forward script to forward these udp packets to an internal ip address? 4569, 5004-5082, and 10000-20000 ports |
| 03:13.33 | bbrazil | dclarke: try woody |
| 03:13.43 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, i think you are right by the way. it must be the cable |
| 03:13.49 | dclarke | bbrazil : sorry .. whats that ? |
| 03:13.56 | bbrazil | dclarke: 3.0 |
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| 03:14.16 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Then it's attempting, but it's evidently not succeeding. |
| 03:14.22 | dclarke | bbrazil : oh .. I will look for a CD boot download somewhere |
| 03:14.29 | grumpydog | cheryl_ alright might be easier for you to get a crossover cable...it will only cost you a few quid, rather than cabling yourself. |
| 03:14.32 | bbrazil | ke6isf: issue is on the other end of the conection then |
| 03:14.47 | bbrazil | ke6isf: check auth.log |
| 03:15.13 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, grumpydog, wait.. it's not. with both laptops connected to each other (and not the tower) i can easily ping from either |
| 03:15.19 | cheryl_ | what does that tell me? |
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| 03:15.34 | dclarke | thank you .. I'm away on a search for "woody" |
| 03:15.37 | grumpydog | it tells you, you have a connection |
| 03:15.47 | bbrazil | cheryl_: I'm thinking layer 2 or 3 routing issues |
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| 03:15.50 | ke6isf | bbrazil: It's not even appearing in the logs. Gonna check the config file. |
| 03:15.54 | grumpydog | cheryl_: NFS? |
| 03:16.06 | MasterObi-WanK | how can I forward these udp packets from an public ip to and internal ip ? 4569, 5004-5082, and 10000-20000 ? |
| 03:16.11 | Azar | wow, ytree!!! nice |
| 03:16.16 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, what do you mean.. network file system? |
| 03:16.25 | bbrazil | ke6isf: make sure the authorized_keys has the right entry |
| 03:16.28 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, right, so it might work on some cards but not on others? |
| 03:16.44 | grumpydog | cheryl_: yeah, are you using a linux box and winxp? |
| 03:16.48 | Azar | anyone used ytree yet? that is MY favorite since xtree gold |
| 03:16.59 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, three debian boxes |
| 03:17.06 | bbrazil | cheryl_: that would be layer 1 (physical) |
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| 03:17.19 | grumpydog | cheryl_: ah ok, what bbrazil says |
| 03:17.24 | bbrazil | cheryl_: try each laptop to the tower - does one work but not the other? |
| 03:17.32 | whitehorse1 | Following on from earlier re installing ALSA drivers for my emu10k1x OEM SB Live, (assisted by dondelelcaro) the modprobe insertion of two of the modules fails: snd-seq-oss and snd-pcm-oss. modprobe emu10k1x and snd-mixer-oss worked fine. Post reboot I have some sound. Anyhow, the error after the modprobe command is unknown symbol or parameter in module [dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/35027] [lsmod output: http://pastebin.ca/3502 |
| 03:17.46 | ke6isf | bbrazil: I presume %h in a config file represents a respective ~, right? |
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| 03:18.00 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, both laptops cannot ping the tower but the tower can ping both. both laptops can ping each other with the same cable |
| 03:18.07 | bbrazil | ke6isf: I'd guess so |
| 03:18.15 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, weird eh? ;) |
| 03:18.16 | bbrazil | ke6isf: man sshd_config, default should be fine |
| 03:18.39 | bbrazil | cheryl_: give me a minute to think on this |
| 03:18.46 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, thanks alot |
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| 03:19.09 | grumpydog | cheryl_: you have a routing problem then |
| 03:19.10 | SerajewelKS | i clicked on a link in gpdf and it froze, so i killed it. now gpdf won't open any pdf files. |
| 03:19.12 | bbrazil | cheryl_: could you check 'arp -a' on those systems against ifconfig output? |
| 03:19.15 | beginer | Password server loop - disabling password server * => in /var/log/samba/log.* => where is the problem? |
| 03:19.17 | botsy | what's the comand for restart services who are in inetd.conf ? /etc/init.d/inetd restart ? |
| 03:19.21 | botsy | ? |
| 03:19.23 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Yep. |
| 03:19.31 | bbrazil | beginer: you password server is set to localhost |
| 03:19.37 | SerajewelKS | is there some gnome service i need to kill? |
| 03:19.42 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, i did before, they are the same as ifconfig output where IP is concerned |
| 03:19.50 | ke6isf | bbrazil: "The agent has no identities." |
| 03:19.51 | bbrazil | cheryl_: check the MAC addresses |
| 03:19.57 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, ok, routing problems on both laptops? |
| 03:20.02 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, ok just a moment |
| 03:20.07 | grumpydog | cheryl_: appears so |
| 03:20.11 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Bingo, in short. |
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| 03:20.23 | bbrazil | ke6isf: new one to me, although this isn't using the ssh-agent |
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| 03:20.39 | beginer | bbrazil: what i need to do? what i must write in smb.conf? |
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| 03:21.00 | pflanze | Hello. Can apt-get source check the signatures of the downloaded source package? |
| 03:21.04 | jeef | what subnet would be optimal to allow 10.0.0.x clients to communicate with 10.0.1.x clients? would 255.255.252.0 work? i understand the concept of how they work, but i've never had to use them really. |
| 03:21.05 | magyar | route -n should show the route |
| 03:21.09 | bbrazil | beginer: juust set password server to the correct (presumably windows) server |
| 03:21.10 | ke6isf | bbrazil: The idea is that ssh-agent wouldn't be used to begin with on this system, being a server. |
| 03:21.12 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, MAC's are correct |
| 03:21.29 | bbrazil | cheryl_: now check 'route -n' on each |
| 03:21.39 | ke6isf | bbrazil: So what do I put in authorized_keys? |
| 03:21.56 | bbrazil | ke6isf: contents of id_dsa.pub from the other system - all on one line |
| 03:22.08 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, on the laptop i have two lines in route -n.. |
| 03:22.31 | cheryl_ | on the tower i have three, one of which is "192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0" |
| 03:22.34 | botsy | Anybody use vsftpd please ???? |
| 03:22.40 | deadcat | no |
| 03:22.41 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Being that it's all that's in that file, I'm presuming that scp is safe to use? |
| 03:22.43 | MasterObi-WanK | how can I forward these udp packets from an public ip to and internal ip ? 4569, 5004-5082, and 10000-20000 ? |
| 03:22.47 | cheryl_ | bbrazil which is in the range.. |
| 03:22.50 | ke6isf | !tell botsy -about ask |
| 03:23.10 | bbrazil | cheryl_: IP adressses all 192.168.0.X ? |
| 03:23.12 | jjhall | MasterObi-WanK: You must be setting up an Asterisk server? |
| 03:23.15 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, yep |
| 03:23.30 | bbrazil | ke6isf: once ssh works, scp should too (and rsync) |
| 03:23.37 | MasterObi-WanK | jjhall, yes I need to forward ports from the Firewall to the internal box |
| 03:23.41 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, there is a windows partition on the tower.. would it be easier to set it up with this? |
| 03:23.49 | bbrazil | cheryl_: routes on the laptops also good? |
| 03:23.54 | botsy | ke6isf, i search vsftpd.conf file for see where i have make error ..... |
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| 03:24.03 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK iptables and the mport module |
| 03:24.06 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, yep, both fine. they can ping each other with the same cable |
| 03:24.17 | ke6isf | botsy: Don't ask me, ask the channel. |
| 03:24.20 | bbrazil | cheryl_: and routes laptop -> tower? |
| 03:24.23 | jjhall | MasterObi-WanK: I use Smoothwall as my router, so I entered the necessary ports in the GUI. |
| 03:24.30 | botsy | ALL , i search vsftpd.conf file for see where i have make error ..... |
| 03:24.35 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK no, no use the multiport module |
| 03:24.36 | ke6isf | bbrazil: Well, it works, but it wants a password for the key. =O.o= |
| 03:24.40 | MasterObi-WanK | I need to forward with iptables |
| 03:24.55 | bbrazil | ke6isf: then create a passwordless key, see also ssh -i |
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| 03:25.14 | b0nn | MasterObi-WanK: redirect rules |
| 03:25.32 | MasterObi-WanK | b0nn, yes Forward |
| 03:25.35 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK shorewall creates iptable rules with a gui. |
| 03:25.40 | MasterObi-WanK | I just need to passthem to my internal ip |
| 03:25.56 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, first line on the laptops is "192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0" second is "0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0" |
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| 03:26.12 | magyar | perfect |
| 03:26.18 | bbrazil | cheryl_: looks fine |
| 03:26.20 | magyar | thats a default route |
| 03:26.28 | grumpydog | yep^^ |
| 03:26.38 | magyar | -_- |
| 03:26.46 | b0nn | MasterObi-WanK: have a read http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialIptablesNetworkGateway.html |
| 03:26.49 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK iptables -t nat -I PREROUTING -m multiport -p tcp --dport a:b,c,d -j DNAT --to <internal ip> |
| 03:26.50 | grumpydog | hang on |
| 03:26.55 | magyar | get a switch |
| 03:26.56 | bbrazil | cheryl_: run mii-tool/ethtool (which ever works) on the tower/laptop when they're connected - 'link ok' ? |
| 03:27.09 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK something like that |
| 03:27.27 | MasterObi-WanK | De_Mon, shorewall is good ? |
| 03:27.29 | grumpydog | cheryl_: should be 192.1.168.0.1 and so forth |
| 03:27.39 | grumpydog | opps |
| 03:28.06 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK if you like gui's it's the best I've heard of. I perfre doing stuff by hand :) |
| 03:28.07 | grumpydog | 192.168.0.1 then foo upto 192.168.0.244 |
| 03:28.18 | bbrazil | grumpydog: 254 |
| 03:28.29 | grumpydog | bbrazil: yeah |
| 03:28.40 | grumpydog | I am just a little tired her :) |
| 03:28.45 | grumpydog | here |
| 03:28.50 | b0nn | anyone installed plone on sarge? |
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| 03:29.54 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, yep "all ok" |
| 03:30.18 | cheryl_ | grumpydog, why? |
| 03:30.31 | cheryl_ | oops sorry .. didn't read |
| 03:30.43 | grumpydog | heh cheryl_ tis ok :) |
| 03:31.02 | bbrazil | cheryl_: next step - 'tcpdump eth0' on the tower, ping from laptop |
| 03:31.19 | bbrazil | cheryl_: you should see an arp request, and arp response and then the pings |
| 03:31.27 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, have to install tcpdump.. just a moment |
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| 03:32.22 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, out of interest in syslog on the tower i'm getting "Dec 28 16:32:14 localhost kernel: ABORTED IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=218.101.92.19 DST=218.101.103.30 LEN=40 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x20 TTL=123 ID=40587 PROTO=TCP SPT=3756 DPT=445 SEQ=4097617126 ACK=4097617126 WINDOW=0 RES=0x00 RST URGP=0" |
| 03:32.28 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, when i ping from a laptop |
| 03:32.36 | ke6isf | bbrazil: OK, thanks for the help. |
| 03:32.41 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, and "Dec 28 16:31:58 localhost dhcpd: send_packet: Operation not permitted" |
| 03:33.10 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, when i dhcpd request: Dec 28 16:31:58 localhost dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 192.168.0.2 from 00:0a:e4:3c:41:3a via eth0 |
| 03:33.11 | kingsley | bbrazil: Thanks for graciously helping so many people on #debian. |
| 03:34.11 | bbrazil | cheryl_: vaguely sounds like a modem problem, posibly a collision. I've never done ppp on linux |
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| 03:34.33 | ohad | hi, what codec do i need in order to view wmv format files? |
| 03:34.33 | bbrazil | cheryl_: the dhcpd I think I explained above - firewall rule |
| 03:34.53 | b0nn | cheryl_: where in NZ are you? |
| 03:35.31 | kepht | i need some help building the i2c_proc module, the other i2c modules built fine (this is for a 2.6.14 kernel) |
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| 03:36.04 | cheryl_ | b0nn north |
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| 03:36.47 | b0nn | heh.. I was going to suggest going to a LUG to get your networking help |
| 03:37.00 | cheryl_ | well thanks all.. it looks to be a bit tricky to resolve. i'll see whether sharing will work with "that other operating system" ;) |
| 03:37.41 | bbrazil | cheryl_: thats a good idea - see if the problem occurs with windows |
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| 03:38.15 | cheryl_ | bbrazil, thanks for your help.. |
| 03:38.19 | cheryl_ | *alot*! |
| 03:38.41 | De_Mon | *a lot* |
| 03:38.53 | b0nn | heh |
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| 03:39.11 | De_Mon | ??alot |
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| 03:39.50 | De_Mon | !alot |
| 03:39.50 | dpkg | Yeah, I'd like to allot a lot of time for the slow killing of dumb motherfuckers who think alot is a word. |
| 03:39.53 | De_Mon | ahh |
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| 03:40.23 | whitehorse1 | Following on from earlier re installing ALSA drivers, the modprobe insertion fails for two of the modules: snd-seq-oss & snd-pcm-oss. Whereas modprobe emu10k1x snd-mixer-oss; worked fine. Post reboot I have some sound. Anyhow, the modprobe error is unknown symbol or parameter in module [dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/35027] [lsmod output: http://pastebin.ca/35028] |
| 03:40.40 | beginer | When I click "View Workgroup Computers" in WinXP, I don't want to show my server in list. Can I? |
| 03:41.15 | bbrazil | beginer: there's probably a setting - or don't runn nmbd (maybe) |
| 03:41.19 | b0nn | change the workgroup your server is in? |
| 03:41.36 | De_Mon | beginer why are you running samba on it then? |
| 03:41.57 | whitehorse1 | anyone have any suggestions? |
| 03:41.57 | vanderlan | hi, i'm brazilian, i must learn inglish, someone can help me? |
| 03:42.03 | kingsley | beginer: Are you aware of IRC channels for MS Windows specific questions? |
| 03:42.13 | beginer | tecause I want a 24/24 master browser |
| 03:42.14 | whitehorse1 | vanderlan no |
| 03:42.29 | b0nn | beginer: ?????????????? |
| 03:42.41 | vanderlan | why? |
| 03:42.46 | MasterObi-WanK | De_Mon, how do you configure shorewall ? |
| 03:42.47 | vanderlan | ok |
| 03:42.51 | De_Mon | beginer that doesn't make sense |
| 03:42.55 | bbrazil | beginer: eh, ifs its a master browser it'l have to be in that list |
| 03:43.03 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK --> if you like gui's it's the best I've heard of. I perfre doing stuff by hand :) |
| 03:43.05 | whitehorse1 | My question made sense. :-| |
| 03:43.16 | beginer | because I want a 24h from 24h master browser... |
| 03:43.19 | De_Mon | MasterObi-WanK I've never used it, it's the best I've heard of |
| 03:43.26 | vanderlan | i'm using slackware linux, anyone can talk any thing about it. |
| 03:43.43 | De_Mon | beginer the expression is 24/7 |
| 03:43.53 | b0nn | De_Mon: Make him use OpenBSD!!! |
| 03:43.57 | vanderlan | whitehorse1, suck my.... |
| 03:44.18 | beginer | so... i can't remove from list... it's ok... |
| 03:44.33 | De_Mon | beginer you would be better off asking in #samba or something more specific. |
| 03:44.48 | De_Mon | *somewhere* |
| 03:45.06 | vanderlan | i'm here |
| 03:45.11 | vanderlan | near you |
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| 03:45.29 | bbrazil | vanderlan: do you have a question relating to debian? |
| 03:45.33 | vanderlan | what the file .iso? |
| 03:46.20 | whitehorse1 | That's a no then. |
| 03:46.45 | vanderlan | yes, |
| 03:47.11 | bbrazil | vanderlan: Tente entrar em #debian-br |
| 03:47.22 | vanderlan | bbrazil: yes, what the vantage about debian? |
| 03:47.33 | vanderlan | bbrazil: advantage |
| 03:47.35 | bbrazil | !why debian |
| 03:47.35 | dpkg | http://www.debian.org/intro/why_debian or at http://snowcrash.tdyc.com/articles/imoore2.html or at http://www.linuxplanet.com/linuxplanet/reviews/2204/1/ or http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/talks/why_debian/ |
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| 03:47.49 | beginer | Error writing 5 bytes to client. -1. (Connection reset by peer) => in /var/log/samba/log.0.0.0.0 => what that means and how can i resolve? |
| 03:48.16 | vanderlan | we are talking about linux, sure? |
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| 03:50.03 | whitehorse1 | Meanwhile, any feedback on that whole error inserting alsa modules due to unknown parameter/version shall be wholeheartedly welcomed. |
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| 03:51.23 | valdyn | !alsa 2.6 |
| 03:51.39 | beginer | Does anybody have a hint what to change? |
| 03:51.46 | valdyn | whitehorse1: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 03:51.50 | dpkg | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 03:52.19 | bbrazil | beginer: don't try to connect from systems that haven't finished configuring via dhcp? |
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| 03:52.39 | valdyn | whitehorse1: ..and you are mixing alsa modules off different alsa versions / different kernels |
| 03:52.42 | matrix | hi i have problem with my debian |
| 03:53.02 | whitehorse1 | valdyn a) I'm using etch b) that notwithstanding, the debian packaged modules failed to work with the Dell OEM sb live 5.1 card; hence the necessary download of latest version from alsa.org |
| 03:53.07 | whitehorse1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.08 | beginer | bbrazil: i don't use dhcp |
| 03:53.34 | matrix | the problem is i have 2gb the memory and my system say i have 855 |
| 03:53.36 | matrix | MB |
| 03:53.49 | Zerial | partitions.. |
| 03:53.54 | valdyn | whitehorse1: that's alright, but you are using some from debian and some self compiled modules |
| 03:53.55 | bbrazil | beginer: then some system on your network is using a source address of 0.0.0.0, or your browsse list contains such an entry |
| 03:54.00 | Zerial | df -h, valdyn |
| 03:54.05 | valdyn | whitehorse1: which cant work |
| 03:54.06 | bbrazil | matrix: CONFIG_HIMEM, 4GB setting |
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| 03:54.16 | matrix | how? |
| 03:54.17 | bbrazil | matrix: in kernel config, near processor selection |
| 03:54.20 | Zerial | maybe .. on / you have XX MB and /home YY MB |
| 03:54.43 | whitehorse1 | valdyn: meh. that'll be it. I tried unloading them via ? |
| 03:54.43 | whitehorse1 | [03:17:32] <whitehorse1> Following on from earlier re installing ALSA drivers for my emu10k1x OEM SB Live, (assisted by dondelelcaro) the modprobe insertion of two of the modules fails: snd-seq-oss and snd-pcm-oss. modprobe emu10k1x and snd-mixer-oss worked fine. Post reboot I have some sound. Anyhow, the error after the modprobe command is unknown symbol or parameter in module [dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/35027] [lsmod output |
| 03:54.48 | whitehorse1 | oops sorry |
| 03:54.49 | matrix | i never config the kernel |
| 03:54.54 | whitehorse1 | unintentional |
| 03:55.11 | matrix | but i have AMD fx53 with debian 32bit |
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| 03:55.20 | bbrazil | matrix: you'll need to, use the current /boot/config, except for the change above |
| 03:55.37 | valdyn | whitehorse1: you probably just have not compiled _all_ modules you are using |
| 03:55.40 | whitehorse1 | I meant to type to valdyn something like 'that'll be it then'. and say I'd tried unloading them via rmmod snd-pcm (and seq)-oss |
| 03:55.53 | valdyn | whitehorse1: modprobe -r you mean |
| 03:56.02 | valdyn | whitehorse1: rmmod is evil |
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| 03:56.17 | whitehorse1 | blame dondelelcaro ;) |
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| 03:59.37 | cheryl | bbrazil, hi there.. just thought i'd let you know that i ran tcpdump (after it installed and i get back "16:58:38.141015 IP 192.168.0.2 > 192.168.0.1: ICMP echo request, id 56871, seq 59, length 64" when i ping from a laptop, but from the laptop is just sits there with no response |
| 03:59.47 | darkcmd | lol... when I opened my xmas presents on christmas, one of my gifts from my parents was a debian t-shirt |
| 03:59.49 | darkcmd | haha |
| 03:59.51 | whitehorse1 | valdyn modprobe -r $modulename just returns me to the command prompt whereas rmmod tells me the modules don't exist in /proc/modules. still, the insertion fails either way due to unknown symbols. probably fair to blame udev. ah well. |
| 03:59.59 | cheryl | bbrazil, does that indicate anything interesting? |
| 04:00.25 | darkcmd | anyone find that cool? |
| 04:00.25 | valdyn | whitehorse1: no, i told you, you are mixing different versioned alsa modules |
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| 04:02.12 | cheryl | bbrazil, secondly, i've tried with another cable i found that i know is not crossover, and the same stuff happens. do you think that perhaps my first cable isn't crossover and that that is the problem? |
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| 04:02.57 | whitehorse1 | valdyn okay, I'll have another look at it tomorrow; presumably either a matter of removing the ones I installed from the alsa site and then installing debian's alsa-utils or vice-versa. |
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| 04:03.46 | owner989 | if i want to install another linux distro on a separate partition can i use the same swap partition as ubuntu for it |
| 04:04.02 | lordnazgul | owner: i believe so |
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| 04:04.33 | m0se5 | all, how does one deactivate firewall loading in a debian system? |
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| 04:04.47 | matrix | i don`t see the CONFIG_HIMEM |
| 04:04.48 | owner989 | are you using firestarter m0se5 |
| 04:04.57 | m0se5 | owner989: nope |
| 04:05.04 | owner989 | its just iptables then |
| 04:05.11 | m0se5 | owner989: yup |
| 04:05.31 | haasteem | hello, i have some trouble getting x running... it says... fatal server error: could not open default font 'fixed'... i tried with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, without any luck.. what can i do? |
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| 04:06.17 | stew | m0se5: what version of debian and what does "uname -r" say? |
| 04:06.35 | stew | err |
| 04:06.38 | stew | matrix: ^^^ |
| 04:06.56 | m0se5 | stew: testing and 2.6.12-1-686 |
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| 04:07.14 | darkcmd | hmm... anyone know where I can get any linux posters? |
| 04:07.20 | matrix | 2.6.14-2-386 |
| 04:08.27 | m0se5 | owner989: did it stump ya? |
| 04:08.53 | m0se5 | owner989: iptables -L >> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/1o4Wkq57.html |
| 04:09.01 | matrix | stew: 2.6.14-2-386 |
| 04:09.27 | pflanze | How do you change a key shortcut in gnome 2 apps? |
| 04:09.43 | pflanze | (more precisely: remove it) |
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| 04:10.35 | owner989 | m0se5 you could just uninstall iptables |
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| 04:11.07 | m0se5 | owner989: crazy enough, it just may work. |
| 04:11.13 | owner989 | its listed in synaptic |
| 04:11.20 | owner989 | so i think its safe enough |
| 04:11.35 | m0se5 | I thought iptables was just a config frontend? |
| 04:12.16 | owner989 | yeah but if you have no other firewall installed |
| 04:12.39 | owner989 | getting rid of it may be what you want to do |
| 04:13.05 | m0se5 | ok. thanks. If I'm not back in 5 minutes... just wait longer.. |
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| 04:17.26 | mbrei | hello |
| 04:18.11 | mbrei | is anyone in here using the Debian "Unstable" tree? |
| 04:18.59 | deadcat | mbrei: just ask the q |
| 04:19.33 | Neo20 | hi guys |
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| 04:19.45 | Neo20 | I got a serious problems of dependecies |
| 04:19.47 | Neo20 | installing |
| 04:19.55 | deadcat | isnt that sucky. you have to the the 20th lamer named neo |
| 04:19.57 | pipeline | mbrei: The key words here are "if you have to ask..." |
| 04:20.02 | Neo20 | kde 3.5 with the package |
| 04:20.12 | Neo20 | kdelibs-data |
| 04:20.19 | pipeline | Neo20: Be more specific. Use a pastebin. e.g. www.pastebin.ca |
| 04:20.27 | Neo20 | if it bothers you my nick i can change it |
| 04:20.27 | deadcat | Neo20: /topic debian only has 3.4 |
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| 04:20.42 | deadcat | Neo20: its ok. i am just gonna /ignore you |
| 04:21.15 | Neo20 | i know that but i read that un experimental their where packages and in alioth |
| 04:21.18 | mbrei | I just want an oppinion on how unstable the unstable tree is. |
| 04:21.34 | deadcat | mbrei: its stable enough. even for me |
| 04:21.53 | mbrei | i'm using mostly testing some packages from stable |
| 04:22.11 | deadcat | like to mix and match eh? |
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| 04:22.33 | mbrei | some packages in stable weren't available in testing |
| 04:22.46 | Neo20 | hey deadcat have you received many questions of guys who used my nick, because you seem to be angry |
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| 04:23.01 | deadcat | Neo20: PMS (= |
| 04:23.16 | Neo20 | ok |
| 04:23.33 | Duelist | okay, I have the module loaded for my motherboard's sound chip, and I still can't get sound. /dev/dsp isn't even there |
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| 04:23.49 | Duelist | what's the next thing to check |
| 04:23.51 | SkArFaCe | does n e body know a channel where i can get help on agnula demudi |
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| 04:24.08 | SkArFaCe | besides #demudi |
| 04:24.30 | Neo20 | what's the problem that you have |
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| 04:24.57 | SkArFaCe | i want to get rid of a lock file |
| 04:24.59 | Duelist | SkArFaCe: it helps if you spell out your words |
| 04:25.07 | mbrei | duelist: what sound chip do you have? |
| 04:25.26 | SkArFaCe | that prevents me from opening seperate mozilla firefox browsers |
| 04:25.45 | Duelist | mbrei: it's a "VIA VT82C686 AC97 Audio Controller" |
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| 04:26.12 | mbrei | duelist: what module are you using? |
| 04:26.32 | Duelist | mbrei: tried snd-via82xx and via82cxxx_audio |
| 04:26.40 | Duelist | neither one appears to work. |
| 04:27.10 | mbrei | duelist: are you using alsa or oss? |
| 04:27.28 | Duelist | mbrei: I'd like to get ALSA working if possible but can use OSS for the time being |
| 04:27.44 | Duelist | right now I just want /dev/dsp to show up so esd will work |
| 04:27.51 | mbrei | did you build your own kernel or are you using a stock? |
| 04:28.03 | Duelist | it's the stock Debian kernel 2.6.14-2-k7 (testing) |
| 04:28.12 | SkArFaCe | neo20 |
| 04:28.35 | DragonDav | anyone know of a console based bandwidth monitor? |
| 04:28.48 | Neo20 | did you changed to demudi 1.3.0? |
| 04:29.06 | SkArFaCe | no |
| 04:29.11 | mbrei | duelist: have you checked the config file to make sure all the sound options you need are enabled? |
| 04:29.19 | Duelist | which config file? |
| 04:29.24 | SkArFaCe | all ive dont was recently install flashplayer plugin and java |
| 04:29.33 | mbrei | the kernel's .config file. |
| 04:29.46 | SkArFaCe | and ever since then i have to create a user profile to open another browser |
| 04:29.49 | Duelist | mbrei: I had sound working somehow prior to rebooting. I don't have sound now. |
| 04:30.00 | mbrei | oh ok |
| 04:30.17 | Neo20 | that's quite stange, mmm what happens if you run alsaconf? |
| 04:30.27 | mbrei | have you read through the logs to see if anything looks out of place? |
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| 04:30.58 | SkArFaCe | oh wtf |
| 04:31.36 | Duelist | I don't have anything called alsaconf I can run that I can see. |
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| 04:32.35 | mbrei | try running alsaconf as root |
| 04:32.59 | Duelist | I will have to install it, somehow I didn't have it installed |
| 04:33.21 | mbrei | for some reason on my PC at work every time I'd reboot I had to run alsaconf to get my sound back...never could figure out why |
| 04:33.22 | owner989 | its in alsa utils or something |
| 04:33.28 | owner989 | you can download it from the alsa website |
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| 04:36.41 | mbrei | anyone else have an oppinion on using the unstable tree? |
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| 04:38.55 | deadcat | just use testing if you have to ask |
| 04:39.32 | Duelist | okay. well that worked |
| 04:39.37 | Duelist | if I tell esd to use /dev/dspW it works. |
| 04:39.45 | Duelist | but why don't I have a /dev/dsp? |
| 04:40.16 | mbrei | I don't think all cards have to use /dev/dsp |
| 04:40.33 | mbrei | you can also link /dev/sound to /dev/dspW |
| 04:40.34 | Duelist | well esd expects /dev/dsp |
| 04:40.48 | Duelist | okay, now I do have a /dev/dsp. weird |
| 04:42.13 | SkArFaCe | does anybody know where i can get some agnula demudi help |
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| 04:43.14 | jsz_ | whats a good vnc client to use? |
| 04:43.19 | jsz_ | and server |
| 04:43.24 | jsz_ | for debian boxes |
| 04:43.32 | jsz_ | vncserver? |
| 04:43.41 | deadcat | jsz_: apt-cache search vnc |
| 04:43.52 | jsz_ | I did |
| 04:44.02 | jsz_ | but I got xvncviewer |
| 04:44.07 | jsz_ | and it doesn't work |
| 04:44.10 | jsz_ | I had a better one before |
| 04:44.17 | deadcat | jsz_: yes it dow |
| 04:44.25 | mbrei | can someone tell me what the /sys directory is for or where it comes from? Is it the sysfs replacement for /proc in the kernel? |
| 04:44.39 | deadcat | jsz_: vnc4server - Virtual network computing server software |
| 04:44.44 | deadcat | you MUST be blind |
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| 04:45.26 | Elly | what the fuck, aptitude wants to remove gedit and evolution and so on |
| 04:45.29 | deadcat | mbrei: mount will show you |
| 04:45.30 | Elly | it says they are 'unused'?? |
| 04:45.44 | deadcat | Elly: use apt-get |
| 04:45.53 | Elly | why is aptitude insane though |
| 04:45.57 | deadcat | no clue |
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| 04:46.23 | tictac | heh. |
| 04:46.34 | SkArFaCe | can n e body help with demudi |
| 04:46.38 | Elly | !n |
| 04:46.39 | dpkg | methinks n is a nitrogen atom, or 420, or {1,2,3,....} |
| 04:46.40 | Elly | !e |
| 04:46.41 | dpkg | [e] from memory, e is a silly bulky, overdone wm, or still the best looking window manager around. and smaller than windowmaker in memory, or of course, smaller than windowmaker isn't saying much. see sawfish. see MDMA, or 2.7182818284590452353602874713526625, or kicks ass, or a very versatile window manager, or *utter* shite, or http://www.enlightenment.org/ |
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| 04:47.00 | Duelist | :-) |
| 04:47.00 | Elly | !ne1 |
| 04:47.00 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
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| 04:48.58 | llama32 | SkArFaCe: maybe |
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| 04:49.26 | SkArFaCe | well i dont know how difficult is it |
| 04:49.42 | wotnarg | is there a way to forward a local port to another? (basicly have an app run on two recieving ports without knowing it) |
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| 04:50.24 | Duelist | SkArFaCe: if you lack the mental capacity or patience to spell out "anyone" you will be way over your head trying to fix this problem. |
| 04:50.25 | SkArFaCe | when i try and open 2 seperate mozilla firefox browsers , on the second one-when trying to open it, it ask me to create a user profile in order for the browser to be opened |
| 04:50.52 | SkArFaCe | deulist shut the fuck up please |
| 04:50.54 | SkArFaCe | thank you |
| 04:50.55 | SkArFaCe | :-D |
| 04:51.01 | SkArFaCe | N E way |
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| 04:51.38 | brady | what is an easy way to set the title in a term? |
| 04:51.57 | mbrei | skarface: if you haven't noticed, no one on IRC likes your little shorthand, it doesn't take very long to type out anyone! |
| 04:52.04 | Zerial | term --title? |
| 04:52.12 | Zerial | what term? |
| 04:52.17 | hammerabi | sudo is harder than it sounds |
| 04:52.18 | hammerabi | brady: xttitle |
| 04:52.24 | SkArFaCe | haha |
| 04:52.29 | SkArFaCe | ask me if i care |
| 04:52.45 | mbrei | hey, you're the one in here looking for help |
| 04:52.50 | SkArFaCe | ne1? |
| 04:52.55 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: it discourages people from helping you |
| 04:53.05 | llama32 | SkArFaCe: i think that's just firefox's normal crankyness, it doesnt happen here, but it has happened to me before with mozilla on MacOSX... try asking in a mozilla/firefox channel? |
| 04:53.06 | hammerabi | particularily the clueful people who could help you |
| 04:53.30 | SkArFaCe | THANK YOU llama32 |
| 04:53.41 | SkArFaCe | your not hard headed like other people |
| 04:53.43 | SkArFaCe | thank you |
| 04:53.44 | SkArFaCe | :-D |
| 04:53.48 | hammerabi | "you're" |
| 04:53.54 | mbrei | ha |
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| 04:54.19 | llama32 | SkArFaCe: hence you get help from complete idiots such as myself |
| 04:54.31 | llama32 | SkArFaCe: mmmmmmmm, baked beans and soy sauce |
| 04:55.02 | SkArFaCe | haha |
| 04:55.06 | SkArFaCe | better than nothing |
| 04:55.23 | quad3datwork2 | apache2-mpm-worker+fastcgi+php5; does someone mind share their fastcgi.conf from mods-available? i've been hacking @ this issue for almsot 2 days now. can't get it to work. thx |
| 04:55.23 | nosklo | more than you deserve |
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| 04:55.48 | quad3datwork2 | (not sure if it's right # to ask) |
| 04:56.05 | hammerabi | #apache could probably point you at a fastcgi place |
| 04:56.16 | hammerabi | isn't fastcgi non-free anyway? |
| 04:56.16 | quad3datwork2 | alright, thanks. |
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| 04:58.01 | SkArFaCe | n e body out there |
| 04:58.02 | SkArFaCe | haha |
| 04:58.54 | kepht | On a 2.6 kernel, how do i get the module i2c-proc to build? The other i2c modules did. |
| 04:59.07 | MasterObi-WanK | anybody has a working script for iptables , doing SIP forwaring for an ASterisk server? |
| 04:59.19 | jjhall | SkArFaCe: I think the average age here is quite a bit higher than 13, please use full words... |
| 04:59.39 | mbrei | he's just doing it to be a prick now |
| 04:59.55 | jjhall | MasterObi-WanK: All you need is to forward the appropriate ports, UDP, and you should be fine. No special protocols are required. |
| 05:00.07 | SkArFaCe | haha |
| 05:00.09 | jjhall | The sip control port is TCP if memory serves me correctly. |
| 05:00.14 | MasterObi-WanK | jjhall, I try it , but its not working |
| 05:00.27 | SkArFaCe | its funny how U girls get pist about that |
| 05:00.44 | mbrei | I think SIP is UDP |
| 05:00.57 | hammerabi | SkArFaCe: probably time to stop now |
| 05:01.07 | jjhall | MasterObi-WanK: Do you have the settings for Asterisk itself set correctly? |
| 05:01.10 | SkArFaCe | wat |
| 05:01.22 | MasterObi-WanK | jjhall, I think yes |
| 05:01.33 | jjhall | mbrei: I know the RTP ports are UDP, but I think 5060 itself is TCP. |
| 05:01.35 | MasterObi-WanK | its accepting on port 5060 from any ip |
| 05:01.54 | jjhall | Are you registered on FWD? |
| 05:02.10 | MasterObi-WanK | why ? |
| 05:02.18 | MasterObi-WanK | I have some trunks IAX running |
| 05:02.22 | jjhall | I could give you a test call if you are. |
| 05:02.31 | jjhall | IAX is UDP, I do know that. |
| 05:02.32 | mbrei | jjhall: no, I just check my packet captures from when i was having sip problems, it's all done over UDP |
| 05:02.51 | jjhall | I stand corrected. :-) |
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| 05:04.18 | nekostar | hello! :)_ |
| 05:04.29 | nekostar | hey i just got this dell insperion 4000 laptop |
| 05:04.43 | nekostar | thing is its only a 600mhz chip 128 ram and ~5gig hdd |
| 05:04.44 | zinx | nekostar: i'm sorry |
| 05:04.49 | nekostar | lol zinx :P |
| 05:04.51 | zinx | nekostar: i hope your next christmas is better |
| 05:05.11 | nekostar | i was wondering how little i could keep debian.. and is it possible to do it with no swap or a tiny swap partition.. |
| 05:05.12 | Duelist | okay maybe the ALSA drivers just don't trigger udev to make /dev/dsp |
| 05:05.29 | Duelist | I still have to tell esd manually to use /dev/dspW but at least I have sound now |
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| 05:05.35 | zinx | nekostar: you should have swap |
| 05:05.46 | nekostar | can i keep to say 500MB >? |
| 05:05.50 | zinx | nekostar: debian will install, even with gnome/kde and a development environment, in 5GB |
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| 05:06.01 | zinx | nekostar: but you won't have much room for other stuff :P |
| 05:06.03 | nekostar | ive got to do all the installing offline,.,, |
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| 05:06.21 | zinx | you should probably set the swap to 128mb, possibly 256 if you're feeling generous |
| 05:06.29 | nekostar | ah |
| 05:06.49 | nekostar | was thinking icewm or openbox :) |
| 05:07.00 | nekostar | text editor totem-xine xmms |
| 05:07.02 | tuv | is hibernate support going to be provided in debian kernels? |
| 05:07.10 | nekostar | and thats about it :P |
| 05:07.27 | deadcat | tuv: no |
| 05:07.37 | tuv | deadcat: why is that? |
| 05:07.51 | nekostar | but do the dells present any particular problems installing zinx ? |
| 05:07.54 | deadcat | keepin' it real |
| 05:08.17 | tuv | deadcat: what does that mean? |
| 05:08.19 | nekostar | and can i keep / and /home on same partition and just mount the / directory? |
| 05:08.22 | hammerabi | tuv: swsusp is already in it |
| 05:08.25 | hammerabi | nekostar: yes |
| 05:08.34 | deadcat | tuv: no clue (= |
| 05:08.40 | hammerabi | nekostar: bear in mind you will not be able to reinstall Debian withou destroying /home. tho |
| 05:08.43 | nekostar | kay |
| 05:08.46 | nekostar | yeah thats fine |
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| 05:09.12 | tuv | hammerabi: is it usable? any known issues? |
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| 05:10.07 | zinx | nekostar: depends on which one, but usually, yes. |
| 05:10.14 | linuxnewbie101 | what is the universal apt-get command to update your entire debian |
| 05:10.30 | tictac | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:10.36 | nekostar | and is there a torrent of the debian on dvd instead of the seperate cd isos? |
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| 05:10.46 | tictac | nekostar: yes. |
| 05:10.59 | tictac | nekostar: cdimage.debian.org (sp?) |
| 05:11.03 | tuv | nekostar: there is jigdo too for debian on dvd |
| 05:11.03 | linuxnewbie101 | thanks tictac just rusty....lol |
| 05:11.17 | linuxnewbie101 | what is the best tool for burning dvds with linux |
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| 05:11.24 | tictac | linuxnewbie101: dvdrecord. |
| 05:11.35 | tictac | growisofs/dvdrecord |
| 05:11.40 | perpus | aaaa |
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| 05:12.05 | linuxnewbie101 | i have k3b is dvdrecord built into that |
| 05:12.54 | tictac | had |
| 05:13.24 | Paivakil | linuxnewbie101: ?? please elaborate |
| 05:13.28 | tvn | anyone knows of some tools to strip away TeX 's syntax ? I want to spell check a document written in TeX |
| 05:13.32 | Czar_Net | I have modem Alcatel Speed Touch Pro, hardwired in the server in eth0 and the net est?igado in eth1, I am having packages ICMP of eth0 for eth1 |
| 05:13.53 | tictac | linuxnewbie101: im not sure. dvdrecording should be built into k3b. however, ive never used it. |
| 05:14.08 | tictac | !english |
| 05:14.09 | dpkg | english is probably a language spoken by guys who always write the fscking word: coloUr :), or a loose conglomeration of random words from french, german, and latin, or http://www.unique.cc/ron/estuff.htm or one of the most bastardised languages ever, borrowing from all over the world, or english, motherfucker, do you speak it? or ALL YOUR WORD ARE BELONG TO US!! |
| 05:14.25 | Paivakil | tvn: most spell checkers ignore tex syntax - try aspell |
| 05:15.32 | Czar_Net | understand ? |
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| 05:20.32 | tuv | where can i find out about hibernate support in debian? |
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| 05:21.12 | stew | tuv: for a laptop or a desktop? |
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| 05:21.19 | tuv | stew: laptop |
| 05:21.43 | stew | tuv: /msg dpkg laptops ; look at the urls, find someone with the same laptop and see what they have done |
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| 05:22.10 | stew | tuv: most people are doing swsusp2 |
| 05:22.12 | Czar_Net | I have modem Alcatel Speed Touch Pro, hardwired in the server in eth0 and the net this on one in eth1, this sending packages ICMP of eth0 for eth1 |
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| 05:22.33 | tuv | stew: does it require any kernel modules? |
| 05:22.37 | rustifer | pardon me,. . . how do I know what verson of KDE is currently in Etch? The 'version' in synaptec doesn't look right |
| 05:22.42 | stew | tuv: swsusp2 does |
| 05:23.05 | tuv | stew: are the required modules included in debian's kernels? |
| 05:23.11 | stew | tuv: not included |
| 05:23.36 | tuv | stew: so i have to recompile a kernel to have swsusp2 working? |
| 05:23.38 | stew | tuv: requires patching. you should first check to see what others have gotten working on tuxmobil.org and linux-laptops.net |
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| 05:23.42 | stew | tuv: yes |
| 05:24.08 | tuv | stew: well.. why aren't these modules included in debian's kernels? |
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| 05:24.34 | stew | tuv: becuase they aren't part of the upstream kernel |
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| 05:25.27 | tuv | stew: ah |
| 05:25.33 | stew | tuv: but you may be able to hibernate without using swsusp2 |
| 05:25.50 | tuv | stew: using what? |
| 05:26.01 | stew | tuv: acpi / apm |
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| 05:27.02 | diana | How do I ask dpkg why a package isn't in etch yet |
| 05:27.10 | diana | Like "why isn't foobar in etch" but that isn't the right wording. |
| 05:27.23 | stew | diana: /msg dpkg why is foobar not in testing |
| 05:27.25 | tuv | stew: what about sleep.. i think it's got a problem with nvidia binary drivers, am i right? |
| 05:27.30 | diana | thanks stew |
| 05:27.40 | dondelelcaro | !tell diana about why foo is not in testing |
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| 05:28.48 | stew | tuv: i don't know, i've never had a laptop with nvidia, nor have I ever used non-free graphics drivers, which is why you should be consulting webpages of those who have the same laptop as you |
| 05:28.49 | ^Ocena^ | Okay, How can i get my USB Drives to automount ? ( The lil like 256mb key chain ones ) |
| 05:29.16 | stew | ^Ocena^: /msg dpkg autofs |
| 05:29.28 | tuv | stew: though you might have an idea.. will consult them for sure.. thanks |
| 05:29.28 | ^Ocena^ | tuv: if ur laptop use's the Nvidia card, goto nvidia, download the newest linux driver and install it |
| 05:29.37 | ^Ocena^ | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:30.03 | nima | ^Ocena^, no space |
| 05:30.13 | tuv | ^Ocena^: will that be any different than using debian's nvidia-kernel-source with module-assistant? |
| 05:30.46 | stew | tuv: from what I understand it would be quite a bit worse |
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| 05:31.04 | nima | stew, which one? |
| 05:31.18 | stew | nima: which what? |
| 05:32.05 | sanxiyn | stew: Debian way vs. nVidia download? |
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| 05:32.38 | stew | nevermind me, i'm going to stay out of non-free nvidia driver related discussions |
| 05:32.39 | nima | nevermind, i think i misread tuv's question |
| 05:32.55 | sanxiyn | Me too... |
| 05:33.14 | sanxiyn | (that I'm going to stay out of non-free software discussion) |
| 05:33.54 | tuv | is there someone called nevermind in this channel or what :) |
| 05:33.54 | nima | i prefer debian's, i had bad luck with nvidia's |
| 05:34.17 | tuv | nima: debian's just work flawlessly |
| 05:34.36 | nima | nvidia's just didnt work for me |
| 05:34.39 | nipra | During upgradation if package downloading has to be aborted and if it's started again then will all process repeat again or it will resume from where it had been aborted? |
| 05:34.51 | sanxiyn | nipra: Will resume. |
| 05:35.00 | sanxiyn | (Both HTTP and FTP.) |
| 05:35.15 | nipra | sanxiyn, ok |
| 05:35.33 | nipra | sanxiyn, thanks |
| 05:35.34 | Paivakil | nipra: apt & fiends resume interrupted downloads |
| 05:37.07 | nipra | Paivakil, fiends?? |
| 05:37.28 | nima | aptitude, synaptic |
| 05:37.40 | sanxiyn | s/fiends/friends/ |
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| 05:38.11 | nipra | sanxiyn, ok |
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| 05:38.36 | nima | i just read it as friends |
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| 05:39.20 | nima | does anyone actually use synaptic? |
| 05:39.25 | deadcat | no |
| 05:39.48 | tictac | nope |
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| 05:40.46 | Paivakil | nipra: yup :) |
| 05:40.50 | nima | what do you all think of ubuntu? i ordered a good bit of their CDs to give to people |
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| 05:41.24 | nipra | nima, Yes I used to but after RTFMing APT-HOWTO...no longer |
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| 05:41.39 | deadcat | nipra: good for you then. |
| 05:42.01 | nipra | deadcat, :-) |
| 05:42.02 | deadcat | ^^ the other bitch |
| 05:42.04 | deadcat | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:42.14 | tuv | nima: i do |
| 05:42.25 | nima | i used to |
| 05:42.28 | sanxiyn | nima: Good for you. |
| 05:42.28 | sinizzl | i have found this link about custom kernels: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html#PREP-KERNEL-PKG ; it seems to apply for 2.4 kernels. is it the same for 2.6 ? |
| 05:42.37 | Gnea | nima:i did that once. now i'm regretting it. |
| 05:42.42 | Gnea | :) |
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| 05:43.54 | nima | by the way, i'm nimak |
| 05:44.12 | Gnea | really? |
| 05:44.47 | nima | indeed |
| 05:45.36 | nima | :-) |
| 05:45.37 | Gnea | *fart* |
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| 05:45.40 | nima | i, for one, am glad the internet doesnt include smell |
| 05:45.57 | Gnea | :) |
| 05:46.03 | Tortel | i am un-glad |
| 05:46.04 | Tortel | :( |
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| 05:48.47 | jgould | any one ever set up a CVS server |
| 05:48.55 | deadcat | jgould: isntall cvs |
| 05:48.56 | dondelelcaro | jgould: yes. Just ask your question. |
| 05:49.53 | jgould | I did a cvs -d /home/cvs/NWBible init on the server, which should have created the module NWBible, when I try to add files to this module I get cvs [add aborted]: no such directory `:extssh:dev.nwbible.org:/home/cvs' |
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| 05:52.57 | jgould | the CVS command includes hte module name |
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| 05:53.09 | secher_ | Is there a tool to monitor which processes are accessing disk? |
| 05:53.21 | Tortel | disk? |
| 05:53.25 | Tortel | or momory? |
| 05:53.28 | deadcat | fuser |
| 05:53.32 | tuv | lsof |
| 05:53.50 | Tortel | gnome system moniter ftw! |
| 05:53.51 | Tortel | :D |
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| 05:54.24 | stew | jgould: where did :extssh: come from? as far as i can remember it should be :ext: or nothing at all, like just "dev.nwbible.org:/home/cvs" |
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| 05:54.47 | _SD_Keo | Hello, my microphone's not being picked up, i'm using gnome and i'm in a little rush to get this working.. |
| 05:55.05 | Tortel | what recording program? |
| 05:55.09 | jgould | stew I still get the same thing |
| 05:55.13 | stew | _SD_Keo: is it unmuted? |
| 05:55.18 | Tortel | you have sound playback? |
| 05:55.30 | _SD_Keo | I've tried teamspeak, sound recorder, I DO have sound playback. |
| 05:55.34 | deadcat | rec |
| 05:55.53 | Tortel | ok, check if your mic is muted |
| 05:55.57 | Tortel | and turn it up |
| 05:56.07 | _SD_Keo | not muted and up all the way |
| 05:56.16 | secher_ | Disk. my disk drive(s) sopradically grind for 20-60 seconds. There are no cron jobs running, nothing updating, adn I can't seem to puzzle out which process is accessing them, and it's driving me nuts. I don't think there's anything wrong, I'd just like to know.. |
| 05:56.37 | doubleukay | mic plugged into the correct port? |
| 05:56.42 | Tortel | is the input set right in the programs? |
| 05:56.52 | stew | secher_: nothing obvious in "top"? |
| 05:56.53 | Tortel | and is the mic set up right? |
| 05:56.57 | _SD_Keo | yes, and yes, I can hear it back through the headphones |
| 05:57.02 | secher_ | will check fuser and lsof. Thanks. |
| 05:57.10 | Tortel | check the programs |
| 05:57.13 | _SD_Keo | my programs aren't picking it up though.. |
| 05:57.31 | Tortel | check the input settings |
| 05:57.49 | _SD_Keo | I'm trying to get it going with teamspeak |
| 05:58.09 | Tortel | check input settings |
| 05:58.21 | Azar | if I will be using a D-Link firewalled router in order to run two PCs at a time online, will I need either 'nis' or 'portmap' ? |
| 05:58.30 | _SD_Keo | sound driver Default (oss /dev/dsp |
| 05:58.52 | Tortel | check voice activation levels? |
| 05:58.54 | stew | Azar: your firewall/router has nothing to do with nis |
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| 05:59.11 | _SD_Keo | yeah, I can't get a loopback with anything.. |
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| 05:59.17 | _joey | Do later version of AMD processors have issues with heat as earlier versions ? |
| 05:59.24 | stew | Azar: do you know what nis is? do you use nfs? |
| 05:59.36 | Azar | thank you stew I am just preparing to remove nis and portmap |
| 05:59.55 | nima | _joey, i dont think AMD processors have that big a heat problem |
| 05:59.55 | sanxiyn | Azar: Go ahead... |
| 06:00.02 | stew | Azar: if you use nfs you still need portmap |
| 06:00.10 | Azar | I will use a router only to have two computers using one internet connection but the computers will not be networked |
| 06:00.24 | nima | my athlon 1800+ runs quite cool |
| 06:00.26 | Azar | thanks |
| 06:00.36 | sanxiyn | Azar: Are they desktop system? |
| 06:01.13 | Azar | sanxiyn, one is Debian Sarge the other is a WinXP they will never see each other |
| 06:01.32 | Tortel | you can mount the XP partition |
| 06:01.33 | Azar | Debian sarge with only openbox |
| 06:01.36 | stew | Azar: then you can safely remove nis/nfs/portmap |
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| 06:01.49 | _joey | nima it was well publisied in press and on forums but that was with earlier models. I am not sure about the later models |
| 06:02.03 | sanxiyn | stew: Eh, I think FAM requests portmap, but perhaps that's fine. |
| 06:02.11 | Azar | to be honest, you guys can laugh, I do like this ProShield little security for newbie program |
| 06:02.38 | Azar | I had a friend I gave him the root password, and he wasn't able to login for nothing in this world |
| 06:02.47 | Azar | totally root login over ssh blocked |
| 06:02.47 | nima | its the intel ones that will cause aluminum heatsinks to burst into flames, _joey |
| 06:02.58 | stew | sanxiyn: "apt-cache rdepends portmap" says you are correct. news to me |
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| 06:03.44 | Bonz | Westnet are also rejecting my outgoing mail with an error message along the lines of expecting a fqdn, despite my machine working fine elsewhere in Australia. My notebooks do not have a fqdn because they are not permanently plugged in anywhere. |
| 06:03.50 | Azar | is this sentence true? apt is wasting time/bandwidth by downloading source package release information..? |
| 06:03.52 | nima | _joey, if i remember corrently my athlon 1800+ runs at a constant 50 degrees C, with the standard heatsink |
| 06:04.25 | stew | Azar: if you believe it is true, then remove deb-src lines from sources.list |
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| 06:05.16 | nima | Azar, depends, do you ever use source packages? |
| 06:05.17 | Azar | :) I had same feeling stew, I rather keep them |
| 06:05.18 | tictac | Azar: a lot of people compile certain packages from source to use different options than the default package. |
| 06:05.26 | Bonz | arrgh |
| 06:05.31 | Azar | yes indeed |
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| 06:05.36 | Bonz | bloddy cut/paste buffer |
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| 06:05.56 | nima | Azar, you can just comment them out, and remove the # if you ever need them |
| 06:06.48 | nmbrr | hey! |
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| 06:07.18 | nmbrr | ive got a quick question, forgive my extreme newbie-ness |
| 06:07.35 | nmbrr | i just installed debian for the first time, using the netinstall |
| 06:07.38 | Bonz | or you could backout your sources.list & restore in the event it becomes corrupted/screwed up by a clueless person :) |
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| 06:08.02 | nmbrr | booted up for the first time, and my display seems to be stuck at 640x480 @60hz |
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| 06:08.06 | nmbrr | 16bit |
| 06:08.28 | nmbrr | and the screen resolution options arnt giving me any, well, options |
| 06:09.07 | nima | nmbrr, do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or ...-xorg if you are not using xfree |
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| 06:09.59 | nima | nmbrr, if that doesnt help, checking log files in /var/log might give you a clue as to what the problem is |
| 06:10.27 | nmbrr | nima: how do i 'do dpkg-reconfigure' |
| 06:10.49 | nmbrr | this is only my 2nd time using a linux system, and my first was a horrible disaster |
| 06:10.51 | nima | are you on gnome or kde, or something else |
| 06:11.01 | nmbrr | it seems to have installed gnome |
| 06:11.31 | Azar | this is SO FUNNY |
| 06:11.34 | nmbrr | in fact the netinstall installed a ton of stuff i really dont want, so ill probably mess with this for a while then start again |
| 06:11.42 | Azar | on the Debian packages list I just found this: |
| 06:11.44 | Azar | Package: gentoo (0.11.46-1) a fully GUI-configurable, two-pane X file manager hahaha |
| 06:12.03 | nima | nmbrr, open up a terminal, i think its in Applications>system tools or something like that |
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| 06:12.23 | nmbrr | youll probably see me in here a lot, asking really dumb questions |
| 06:12.31 | nmbrr | hehe, i do know terminal! |
| 06:12.46 | jgould | seaquest |
| 06:13.09 | Azar | terminal illness? |
| 06:13.19 | omi2 | Hello everyone. I forgot what controls system's order or name resolution. I want the system first to consult /etc/hosts then try to resolve |
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| 06:13.41 | GregorR-L | If I wanted to change the hotplug scripts' default action (in this case on Etch) whan a usb storage device is plugged in, what would I edit? |
| 06:13.41 | omi2 | order *of* name resolution |
| 06:13.50 | stew | Azar: read the new maintainers guide /msg dpkg mg ; they use gentoo as the example package. gentoo is basically a gtk (or is it qt?) version of mc |
| 06:13.58 | GregorR-L | Note that I have no way at the moment to even test /if/ it's working :P |
| 06:14.37 | stew | GregorR-L: iirc, anything in /etc/hotplug/usb/ |
| 06:15.07 | GregorR-L | There's nothing in /etc/hotplug/usb, which is an issue - there's a usb-agent, but not anything there. |
| 06:15.18 | stew | omi2: you are looking for /etc/nsswitch.conf ; what you are looking for is the default |
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| 06:15.40 | omi2 | thank you stew |
| 06:15.45 | stew | omi2: that was unclear. the behaviour you are asking for is the default behaviour |
| 06:16.04 | GregorR-L | What package would have the scripts in /etc/hotplug/usb ? |
| 06:16.10 | omi2 | stew, I would think so too, but.. |
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| 06:16.46 | linuxnewbie101 | is anyone familar with pocket pc and linux |
| 06:17.03 | linuxnewbie101 | i want my pocket pc to be able to interact with my linux laptop |
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| 06:17.32 | GregorR-L | linuxnewbie101: You may have more luck in #handhelds.org |
| 06:17.45 | GregorR-L | And by "may have" I mean "will quite certainly have" :) |
| 06:18.52 | omi2 | stew, when I ssh, the server still consults my DNS server even though it would know the hostname from /etc/hosts |
| 06:18.57 | linuxnewbie101 | thanks for the advice i read up on things and it said i need ksync i have it loaded but nothing is comingup |
| 06:19.08 | nima | GregorR-L, i thought handhelds.org was all about linux on handhelds, not using your pocketpc with a full linux computer |
| 06:20.25 | GregorR-L | Hahah |
| 06:20.30 | GregorR-L | I misinterpreted that entirely :) |
| 06:20.43 | nima | :-) |
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| 06:21.23 | JKnife | i wanna be flamed |
| 06:21.25 | linuxnewbie101 | nima do you know what steps i need i have ksync loaded the pocket pc is plugged in but i can not find it on my system |
| 06:21.29 | JKnife | what do yall think about linspire? |
| 06:21.40 | omi2 | :( |
| 06:21.53 | omi2 | video tutorials are nice though |
| 06:21.58 | nima | linuxnewbie101, i have no idea :-P |
| 06:22.40 | nima | linspire is a disgrace to linux users/developers worldwide |
| 06:23.00 | nima | but i like the attempt to compete with microsoft |
| 06:23.01 | GregorR-L | Oooh, I wanna be flamed too! |
| 06:23.08 | GregorR-L | I use LinSpire and Windows CE! |
| 06:23.32 | JKnife | what is windows ce? |
| 06:23.36 | nima | i have you all beat |
| 06:23.38 | nima | i use aol |
| 06:23.40 | JKnife | i never understod it |
| 06:24.02 | omi2 | nima, you also need to realize that unlike many distros, lindows/linspire tries to sell cheapo pcs, even though I have the distro I like the effort |
| 06:24.15 | raden | how can i copy an entire directory of files on a http server ? |
| 06:24.19 | ^Ocena^ | hmm |
| 06:24.25 | ^Ocena^ | god dam automount cant get it to work |
| 06:24.32 | ^Ocena^ | like i got to the point were i can goto the dir |
| 06:24.35 | ^Ocena^ | then it will show up |
| 06:24.46 | ^Ocena^ | but gnome wont make it auto-popup or show on the desktop |
| 06:25.00 | omi2 | raden, do you have ssh on the server? then you can do scp -r src dst |
| 06:25.10 | raden | nope |
| 06:25.17 | omi2 | ftp? |
| 06:25.17 | Azar | is gvidm handy ? |
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| 06:25.22 | raden | i want to download everyfile listen on a http file list |
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| 06:25.41 | omi2 | ? |
| 06:26.43 | raden | gvidm > |
| 06:26.43 | raden | ? |
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| 06:26.57 | nima | hahaha, Azar im installing gentoo, from debian repositories |
| 06:27.03 | Azar | oh raden, http://packages.debian.org/stable/x11/gvidm |
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| 06:27.25 | Azar | hehe yes indeed that should make the topic for at least one day |
| 06:27.33 | GregorR-L | Hmm, what /etc/hotplug/usb script controls mounting of usb storage devices? |
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| 06:27.57 | Azar | "gentoo package available at http://packages.debian.org/stable"! |
| 06:28.14 | nima | wtf someone changed my password |
| 06:28.26 | Azar | pwned |
| 06:28.29 | jm_ | GregorR-L: I rely on usb-storage |
| 06:29.06 | nima | oops, i didnt realize that i was ssh'd to another computer |
| 06:29.07 | jm_ | gentoo is a file manager, reminiscent of Amiga days - hardly pwned |
| 06:29.53 | Azar | jm_ I was replying to nima who said someone changed his password |
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| 06:30.19 | nima | i hate it when this happens |
| 06:30.48 | Azar | I once got drunk and it happen I have both passwords, for root and user on the same line on a notebook |
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| 06:31.10 | Azar | well for about half hour I was trying to access using wrong password for the wrong account |
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| 06:31.55 | nima | i forget that i am ssh'd to another computer, and i try to log in as root, using this computer's password |
| 06:32.32 | harshal | nima: ya. this has happened to me too many times. |
| 06:32.33 | Sonny | hi, do you know why when I execute "su -" instead of "su" I see my programs in a different language? |
| 06:32.35 | ryanium | DRUNK YES, JEAGER AND VODKA FLOW LIKE WATER ROCK AND ROLL |
| 06:32.40 | ryanium | LED ZEPPLIN WOOHOO |
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| 06:33.06 | harshal | Sonny: su - will set the env. for that user. so it will show it that user's lang |
| 06:33.30 | Sonny | harshal: Thanks... su - isnt root? |
| 06:33.47 | ryanium | Who is with me Led Zepplin rules? |
| 06:33.54 | harshal | Sonny: so showing your root's lang |
| 06:34.10 | jm_ | Sonny: man page for su explains the difference |
| 06:34.13 | nima | gentoo is kind of cool |
| 06:34.17 | nima | the file manager |
| 06:34.26 | Sonny | harshal: how can I change my root's lag? |
| 06:34.28 | jm_ | it is nifty yes |
| 06:34.28 | Sonny | lang? |
| 06:35.50 | harshal | Sonny: i am sure of that. but might be ralated to keyboard layout? remember while installing it asks which keyboard to use? |
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| 06:37.15 | Sonny | harshal: It's about the aparience of aptitude for example... it shows in english after a su -, but my home user see it in spanish |
| 06:37.31 | jm_ | Sonny: info libc, read about the effects of locale |
| 06:37.54 | liquidten2 | Sonny: you can change language by adding a line to /root/.bash_profile add 'export LC_ALL="langage_NATION.encoding"' |
| 06:38.08 | liquidten2 | and you get that by running locale -a |
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| 06:39.33 | Sonny | thanks people... I'll try to do that |
| 06:40.17 | bush | anybody using vncserver have color issues with twm? |
| 06:40.23 | Tatototino | configuraçăo do Java alguem sabe??? |
| 06:41.07 | harshal | Tatototino: muze samaz mein nahi aaya, tu kya bola? |
| 06:41.32 | jm_ | !br |
| 06:41.32 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 06:42.35 | Sonny | liquidten2: the file /root/.bash_profile doesnt exist |
| 06:42.56 | liquidten2 | Sonny: You can use /root/.bashrc also |
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| 06:43.10 | jm_ | Sonny: that's a pretty novel concenpt you have to follow - if the file doesn't exist, you simply create it |
| 06:43.12 | liquidten2 | Sonny: or you can just copy /etc/profile into /root/.bash_profile |
| 06:43.16 | Sonny | liquidten2: I see .profile can use it too? |
| 06:43.25 | jm_ | there's no need to, he should have .profile already |
| 06:44.19 | Sonny | sorry guys, I like to be sure of not making mistakes |
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| 06:50.17 | Azar | is gimp better than imagemagick? |
| 06:50.22 | dondelelcaro | Azar: they're different. |
| 06:50.23 | bush | anybody using vncserver have color issues with twm? |
| 06:50.35 | Azar | dondelecaro, so I should get both? |
| 06:50.45 | Sonny | liquiqte2: I did both but I'm still seeing aptitude in english |
| 06:50.54 | dondelelcaro | Azar: generally, yes. |
| 06:51.12 | Sonny | liquiqten: I did both but I'm still seeing aptitude in english |
| 06:51.17 | Azar | thanks :) |
| 06:51.23 | Sonny | liquiqten2: I did both but I'm still seeing aptitude in english |
| 06:51.29 | harshal | Sonny: does one need to source .bash_profile after editing? not sure. |
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| 06:51.54 | Sonny | dont know |
| 06:51.56 | sapo916 | Anyone know of any sites that have a decent thorough guide for a newbie on setting up webservers and such? |
| 06:52.05 | bush | google lamp |
| 06:52.20 | harshal | Sonny: source it and see. |
| 06:53.01 | Azar | oh |
| 06:53.08 | Azar | gimp only runs on etch? |
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| 06:53.24 | harshal | Azar: no. it runs on sarge too. |
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| 06:53.41 | Azar | thanks harshal, yay! nice |
| 06:53.57 | harshal | Azar: apt-get install gimp |
| 06:54.27 | Sonny | what do you mean with "to source"? |
| 06:54.51 | harshal | Sonny: source ~/.bash_profile |
| 06:55.01 | harshal | Sonny: source ~/.bashrc |
| 06:55.20 | Sonny | harshal: oohh... sorry, I didnt know |
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| 06:55.37 | harshal | Sonny: source commnad will read the file, and execute the line by line |
| 06:56.24 | harshal | Sonny: try doing this. write in any file echo hi, and then source it, it will be same as to write echo hi on your console |
| 06:56.24 | Sonny | harshal: still in english |
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| 06:57.29 | harshal | Sonny: man really don't know about that lang. stuff. anyways my lang is poorly supported (Marathi, Hindi) so i stick with english and never go in that locals area. |
| 06:58.24 | Sonny | harshal: thanks anyway man |
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| 07:08.58 | KLD | I'm wondering if its possible to make my root partition bigger using space from /home partiton |
| 07:09.38 | KLD | since my /home partition has almost 8gigs of free space and root only has .5 gigs now |
| 07:09.49 | KLD | using fdisk or any other? |
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| 07:10.00 | dondelelcaro | KLD: yes, it is... you can resize ext2 partitions, however they must not be mounted when they are. |
| 07:10.52 | KLD | alright :)) .. yes they'd be considered mounted if they're root and home partitions |
| 07:11.18 | KLD | but since its possible I'll go look how its done |
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| 07:12.11 | KLD | oh I misread that .. they must not be mounted ack! |
| 07:12.25 | jishin | hi everybody |
| 07:12.43 | jishin | i'm new to Debian and have some questions about networking |
| 07:12.49 | dondelelcaro | jishin: just ask. |
| 07:12.58 | jishin | i have a machine with 2 NICs |
| 07:13.14 | jishin | how can i set 2 hostnames for each NICs |
| 07:13.22 | jishin | with 2 IPs |
| 07:13.46 | dondelelcaro | jishin: a box only has one hostname. However, the two different ips can resolve to different names. |
| 07:14.10 | jishin | I'm building the Beowulf type machine |
| 07:14.20 | jishin | with use 1 NIC for external , and one for internal |
| 07:14.37 | jishin | but my clients couldn't resolve the name of the internal NIC |
| 07:14.58 | dondelelcaro | jishin: you'll need to set up a dns server or have a shared host file to resolve them, then. |
| 07:15.15 | jishin | my external one : 192.168.11.111 and internal one : 192.168.10.250 |
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| 07:15.48 | jishin | in Debian is it possible to setup something like hostname.eth0, hostname.eth1 or not |
| 07:16.31 | robertpate | Morning, folks. i'm incredibly newb at this, but I've downloaded a .deb file, it's in my home directory, and i when i do dpkg --install filename, it can't find the file. what's the structure to show it where the file is? |
| 07:16.46 | nima | nmbrr, hows it goin? |
| 07:16.48 | sanxiyn | robertpate: It can't find the file? |
| 07:17.43 | robertpate | sanxiyn: No, but is dpgk even correct command for installing a .deb file? |
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| 07:17.53 | sanxiyn | robertpate: yes |
| 07:18.02 | sanxiyn | dpkg -i something.deb |
| 07:18.08 | sanxiyn | argh |
| 07:18.11 | robertpate | hahah |
| 07:18.21 | robertpate | does the file have to be somehwere in particular on my machine? |
| 07:18.23 | duckdown | Hey all.. Can someone tell me what the most graphic intensive, nicest eye candy desktop manager would be? |
| 07:18.29 | sanxiyn | robertpate: No. |
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| 07:18.49 | duckdown | Lots of animations and transparency, etc. |
| 07:19.07 | Azar | anyone here remember xtree gold? |
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| 07:19.26 | Azar | ytree is the delight of my heart, looks exactly like the old xtree |
| 07:19.27 | robertpate | sanxiyn: ok maybe i thyped it wrong. it's working now. |
| 07:19.32 | robertpate | thank you! |
| 07:21.53 | nima | duckdown: kde? |
| 07:22.23 | duckdown | I found it a little plain |
| 07:23.06 | nima | look through differnat themes |
| 07:23.25 | dondelelcaro | jishin: no, it's not. Again, there's only one hostname per host. If the the other name isn't resolving, you need to fix your dns servers or hosts files so that it will resolve. |
| 07:25.08 | nima | duckdown OSX? |
| 07:25.19 | duckdown | never tried it |
| 07:26.05 | nima | i might give it a try, concidering that the mac mini is pretty cheap |
| 07:26.33 | nima | for a mac, anyways |
| 07:27.44 | llama32 | BSS = zero-initialised memory right? |
| 07:28.14 | bjblaz | yes |
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| 07:29.15 | bjblaz | are arrow keys for 'less' under screen broken for anyone else? |
| 07:30.18 | dondelelcaro | bjblaz: no. |
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| 07:30.36 | dondelelcaro | bjblaz: but if they are, you'll find bugs filed against less or screen. Most likely it's just your termcap that is screwed. |
| 07:30.49 | mushrooomprince | hello all |
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| 07:31.00 | bjblaz | except i haven't done anything to it. |
| 07:31.37 | hammerabi | are you ssh'ing in from somewhere or using X? |
| 07:31.52 | bjblaz | wtf, now they are magically working again. |
| 07:32.12 | bjblaz | well, not working again, just working. |
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| 07:32.22 | bjblaz | ok, nevermind. |
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| 07:35.38 | Azar | Coke |
| 07:35.45 | Coke | Azar |
| 07:36.02 | Azar | I want to show you my final screenshot, I am done with that box :) |
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| 07:36.34 | Checkers | hi... would anyone here be able to help me with a printing setup? |
| 07:36.55 | nima | just tell us what the problem is, Checkers |
| 07:36.58 | fooz | what do old Enlightenment users switch to when they outgrow E? |
| 07:37.16 | Azar | Coke may I pm with the link? |
| 07:37.29 | mushrooomprince | azar, how old are you ? |
| 07:37.43 | Azar | mushrooomprince, why the question? |
| 07:37.47 | Checkers | i have cups installed on my system and im not sure the Device URL is correct |
| 07:38.00 | sleepinz | anyone know how i can list how much resources of have left on a machine ? |
| 07:38.02 | Checkers | i basically dont know where my usb printer is hiding |
| 07:38.05 | sleepinz | apart from top? |
| 07:38.09 | Coke | Azar: why don't you use the channel? |
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| 07:38.30 | pilgrim | Ok. I tried debian a day ago or so. I hated the fact that at the end (just about the end) you get to choose the packages you want to insall. And there was no category such as "GNOME DESKTOP" or "KDE desktop" but there was "Desktop Environment" . I did the manual, painful, package by package selection, at the end turns out I forgot to install Xserver. I was freaking tired. |
| 07:38.32 | nima | Checkers, do you want the device uri for other computers? |
| 07:38.32 | sleepinz | i've a dual machine and would like to make sure that top or any other resource monitor actually supports the dual cored CPU's |
| 07:38.34 | Azar | Coke is on yahoo geocities and will limit the views, will block with a 404 fast |
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| 07:38.51 | ldg05 | HI |
| 07:39.00 | tam | what is the easiest way under debian to keep back a kernel when doingg a dist-upgrade? |
| 07:39.01 | Checkers | nima: just for this one for now... |
| 07:39.20 | ldg05 | S |
| 07:39.31 | Azar | http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/gkrellShoot_12-28-05_022246.jpg |
| 07:39.31 | nima | Checkers, going to http://localhost:631 might be helpful |
| 07:39.45 | Checkers | already have |
| 07:40.02 | Coke | Azar: yep, looks like a clean desktop. |
| 07:40.03 | Checkers | test-page just always dies somewhere.. |
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| 07:40.21 | Azar | thanks now on to the next box.. and thank you all for the help |
| 07:40.29 | nima | doesnt it list it there, under the printers tab Checkers |
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| 07:40.43 | sleepinz | anyone here know of any other monitoring programs apart from top ? |
| 07:40.48 | sleepinz | that support dual cored processors |
| 07:41.11 | jm_ | Checkers: did you read devices.txt? |
| 07:41.12 | duckdown | I have to get E17 from the CVS repository it says, but I haven't a clue where this repository is.. Is this a universal thing, or am I missing the address somewhere? I have no clue how to use CVS |
| 07:41.13 | Azar | atop? |
| 07:41.31 | Checkers | jm_: devices.txt? from.. cups? |
| 07:41.54 | mushrooomprince | azar, I'm bored. Random question. |
| 07:42.00 | jm_ | Checkers: no, kernel docs, it will tell you which device to use for USB printers |
| 07:42.16 | Azar | mushrooomprince, I cannot possibly let you unsatisfied: 22 |
| 07:42.27 | jm_ | Checkers: or if you have udev installed, just poke arround in /dev, it should be more or less obvious |
| 07:42.38 | sleepinz | atop ? |
| 07:43.34 | nima | will i die if i try the unstable kernel in testing? |
| 07:44.10 | Azar | good night honorables |
| 07:44.31 | dli | nima: very unlikely |
| 07:44.33 | pilgrim | nima, yes. You'll also die if you don't. |
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| 07:44.38 | sleepinz | hmm |
| 07:44.40 | sleepinz | just downloaded atop |
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| 07:44.51 | mushrooomprince | azar, I assume you run debian. Why ? and what for ? |
| 07:44.57 | sleepinz | atop still doesn't state wether or not it's detecting utilsation from both CPU's |
| 07:45.04 | Bonz | jm_: more or less obvious is that like fine weather with the possabilityof rain? |
| 07:45.04 | nima | haha, pilgrim, i mean, will i die as a result |
| 07:45.06 | sleepinz | well only 2 CPU's which are both dual cored |
| 07:45.09 | sleepinz | so 4 x |
| 07:45.14 | sleepinz | any idea's ? |
| 07:45.17 | pilgrim | nima, oh. Nah. Hardly. |
| 07:45.25 | mushrooomprince | damn |
| 07:45.35 | olczyk | hi is it possible to shutdown one network card while leaving the other up? |
| 07:45.51 | jm_ | olczyk: man ifdown |
| 07:45.55 | sleepinz | olczyk: ifconfig eth<interface name> down/up |
| 07:46.46 | olczyk | Thnaks |
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| 07:48.15 | nima | im contemplating whether just upgrading to unstable on my laptop is a bad idea, i don't mind the occasional reinstall |
| 07:49.06 | dondelelcaro | nima: this is Debian, reinstalls aren't necessary. The question is whether or not you are capable of resolving the problems... |
| 07:49.08 | fooz | debian never needs a reinstall |
| 07:49.28 | nima | yeah, but sometimes i just get too lazy and reinstall |
| 07:49.32 | Checkers | msg nickserv link phui irc |
| 07:50.25 | nima | i've noticed that, and it happens to be one of the many reasons i love debian |
| 07:51.05 | nima | one of the main ones, probably |
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| 07:52.21 | Hobart | Hey -- I'm seeing some spurious ReiserFS error on a fresh 2.6 Sarge Sparc install -- not sure how to search the bug report text on bugs.debian.org to see if there's an open bug on it already? |
| 07:53.32 | sleepinz | any good monitoring programs out their with support for Dual Cored CPU's ?| |
| 07:53.33 | nima | do i just get rid of the security updates line? |
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| 07:54.13 | pilgrim | Will debian allow me to have a stable release with some packages from "testing" such as gnome? |
| 07:54.39 | jm_ | pilgrim: it will allow it but you don't want to do that |
| 07:55.03 | pilgrim | jm_, so how do I get gnome 2.12 with debian? |
| 07:55.15 | nima | is it a bad idea to stick to xfree with unstable? |
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| 07:56.56 | nima | if its not, how do i keep it from upgrading? |
| 07:57.07 | tabris | !anyone |
| 07:57.15 | tabris | !anybody |
| 07:57.25 | jm_ | pilgrim: http://oskuro.net/blog/freesoftware/gnome-2.12-unstable-2005-12-26-21-17 |
| 07:57.29 | nima | xorg doesnt fully support my video card |
| 07:57.39 | duckdown | E17 is the same as Enlightenment dr17 right? |
| 07:57.46 | viv`d | what card is it nima? |
| 07:57.47 | jm_ | pilgrim: read previous post too (there's a link in that post) and note how it's only available in sid |
| 07:57.55 | jm_ | pardon experimental |
| 07:58.07 | nima | its some siliconmotion shite, viv`d |
| 07:58.09 | pilgrim | jm_, hmm. ok. thanks. |
| 07:58.24 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 07:59.13 | nima | i can't get past 640x480 |
| 07:59.16 | viv`d | i dont see how cards under xorg, and xfree would be different, you can use the same drivers |
| 07:59.36 | nima | it also doesnt support my touchscreen |
| 08:00.11 | viv`d | are you sure its just not configured? i have an xbox with xorg and a touchscreen |
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| 08:00.39 | nima | there is no xorg Gunze touchscreen driver, i dont think |
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| 08:00.50 | viv`d | try a generic driver |
| 08:01.11 | nima | anyone in specific you would recommend? |
| 08:01.47 | viv`d | i dunno, my xbox came with the touchscreen section already in xorg.conf |
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| 08:02.11 | Eulex | yeeha |
| 08:02.17 | viv`d | well, the OS did anyway |
| 08:03.21 | nima | im fine with xfree, is there any way to keep it from upgrading? |
| 08:03.35 | viv`d | edit your /etc/apt/preferences |
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| 08:04.04 | viv`d | a priority of 200 will stop a package from upgrading |
| 08:06.29 | sleepinz | someone must know of a good monitoring tool another then 'TOP' that provides support for Duel Cored CPU's |
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| 08:08.21 | viv`d | using gnome or kde |
| 08:08.28 | sleepinz | neither |
| 08:08.31 | sleepinz | console |
| 08:08.48 | viv`d | top is the only one ive heard of |
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| 08:08.59 | viv`d | wont a dual core cpu still show up as one cpu? |
| 08:09.01 | sleepinz | top and atop |
| 08:09.16 | sleepinz | viv'd: yes, but i have dual dual cored CPU's |
| 08:09.17 | sleepinz | :P |
| 08:09.28 | viv`d | top will show both cpus |
| 08:09.34 | sleepinz | hmmmm |
| 08:09.35 | sleepinz | NOOOO |
| 08:09.42 | sleepinz | bloody hope not |
| 08:09.44 | viv`d | just figure 50% is 100% of one cpu |
| 08:09.59 | viv`d | or 25% of two |
| 08:10.03 | sleepinz | cause the machine is sitting at over 50% utilisation and it should be sitting at no more than 15% |
| 08:10.21 | sleepinz | i've 2 x Dual Cored 265's |
| 08:10.27 | sleepinz | running a few procs |
| 08:10.32 | Eulex | hmm |
| 08:10.34 | sleepinz | brb |
| 08:10.35 | viv`d | well top does monitor both cpus, but it only shows one percentage |
| 08:10.41 | Eulex | sleepinz, opterons? |
| 08:10.46 | sleepinz | Eulex: yes |
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| 08:11.27 | sleepinz | pm |
| 08:11.30 | debian_pwnz | I was using sarge, i just did dist-upgrade to etch, and during the upgrade process, it freaks out about perl and locales. http://pastebin.com/481265 <-- here is some of that output. anyhelp would be nice |
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| 08:12.31 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, nothing critical. try dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 08:12.51 | debian_pwnz | locales isn't installed, and it won't let me install locales either |
| 08:12.58 | debian_pwnz | it keeps giving me the same error |
| 08:13.04 | debian_pwnz | i can post more output |
| 08:13.28 | Eulex | there's your problem |
| 08:13.47 | debian_pwnz | whats the problem? |
| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | # |
| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.4.2-4_all.deb (--unpack): |
| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | # |
| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:13.51 | sanxiyn | # |
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| 08:14.04 | sanxiyn | oops |
| 08:14.13 | sanxiyn | That part is. |
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| 08:14.18 | nima | viv`d, what should the syntax be like? |
| 08:14.21 | debian_pwnz | so what do i need to do? |
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| 08:14.26 | debian_pwnz | remove kplayer? |
| 08:14.30 | viv`d | for what? |
| 08:14.33 | sanxiyn | yes, that may help. |
| 08:14.43 | viv`d | the preferences file? |
| 08:14.50 | nima | /etc/apt/preferences |
| 08:14.52 | nima | yes |
| 08:15.07 | nima | i tried differnat stuff, taking hints from google |
| 08:15.10 | viv`d | line 1=Package: packagename |
| 08:15.20 | viv`d | line2=Pin: releasename |
| 08:15.30 | viv`d | line3=Pin-Priority: 200 |
| 08:15.45 | nima | should the packagename be xserver-xorg or xfree86? |
| 08:15.55 | viv`d | i think package name of x-window-system should keep it all from upgrading |
| 08:16.26 | viv`d | im not sure, i used xorg-x11 once, but it didnt work |
| 08:16.31 | debian_pwnz | it won't let me do anything, i try to remove a package it says unmet dependencies, try apt-get -f install , when i try that, it gives me the locale crap. its like a never ending cycle |
| 08:17.17 | sanxiyn | debian_pwnz: locale thing is unimportant. |
| 08:17.35 | debian_pwnz | sanxiyn, let met paste this... |
| 08:17.51 | sanxiyn | debian_pwnz: The problem is, one package contains a file which other package already contains, without proper Replaces: |
| 08:18.22 | debian_pwnz | http://pastebin.com/481269 |
| 08:18.48 | debian_pwnz | i understand what you are saying, but i can't get apt to do anything it keeps giving me these errors and i can't install or remove anything |
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| 08:19.42 | ice_1963 | i wish kde could work like gnome |
| 08:19.53 | viv`d | heh, i wish it wasnt so fat too |
| 08:20.07 | absolutzero | greets |
| 08:20.08 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 08:20.25 | absolutzero | hunting for a prorgam that allows a user to view image files over SSH |
| 08:20.29 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, dpkg --remove kdelibs-data? |
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| 08:21.00 | debian_pwnz | same errors |
| 08:21.02 | nkuttler | debian_pwnz: try LOCALE=C apt-get -f install |
| 08:21.05 | debian_pwnz | it won't let me do ANYTHING |
| 08:21.08 | peppet | absolutzero, ssh -X |
| 08:21.20 | absolutzero | eh? |
| 08:21.27 | absolutzero | oh the X server |
| 08:21.35 | absolutzero | no no, wanting just a console |
| 08:22.00 | debian_pwnz | nope, same thing, it gives me shit about locales and such and doesn't let me do anything |
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| 08:22.19 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, dpkg --remove --force-depends kdelibs-data? |
| 08:22.39 | debian_pwnz | geezus |
| 08:22.43 | debian_pwnz | Eulex, still no luck man |
| 08:22.48 | debian_pwnz | this thing is pissing me off |
| 08:23.00 | nkuttler | debian_pwnz: the locale error is not fatal |
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| 08:23.00 | Deedubb | who has a funny story to tell me |
| 08:23.07 | absolutzero | -X is for xterm or X11? |
| 08:23.23 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/kplayer.deb? |
| 08:23.37 | Eulex | or wait |
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| 08:23.40 | nkuttler | debian_pwnz: what are you doing anyway? you're not running stable, are you? |
| 08:23.46 | peppet | absolutzero, it's for X tunneling, man ssh |
| 08:24.16 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, dpkg -i --force-overwrite /path/to/kdelibs-data.deb (the new version that is) |
| 08:24.19 | debian_pwnz | i was using stalbe, then i upgraded to etch, duriung the etch upgrade apt quits with these errors, and while it was intalling th eother packages too, it was going off about locales |
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| 08:24.35 | blaamann | absolutzero: What about fbi ? |
| 08:24.52 | absolutzero | thats what I thought, it starts wining about me MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE |
| 08:24.59 | nkuttler | debian_pwnz: lesson learned: don't run testing... |
| 08:25.00 | absolutzero | fbi won't run over ssh |
| 08:25.13 | debian_pwnz | i ran testing sarge for 2 years |
| 08:25.16 | nkuttler | debian_pwnz: and do what Eulex says |
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| 08:25.24 | blaamann | absolutzero: Ok, I did not know that |
| 08:25.32 | debian_pwnz | i now wanted to try the new testing |
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| 08:25.42 | absolutzero | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:25.49 | absolutzero | my bad |
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| 08:26.01 | absolutzero | it says ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?) |
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| 08:26.13 | jrf | deleting jrf/.xchat2/urlhandlers.conf |
| 08:26.20 | jrf | oops |
| 08:26.22 | tijn | morning all |
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| 08:27.41 | absolutzero | also says /dev/fb0 no such device |
| 08:27.51 | absolutzero | hence lacking frame buffer |
| 08:27.58 | absolutzero | not sure how to enable it.... |
| 08:28.58 | absolutzero | hmm |
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| 08:29.28 | absolutzero | I am eventually goign to need to setup and "newuser" program for my system |
| 08:29.46 | absolutzero | if anyone knows of a good script just hollar |
| 08:29.51 | debian_pwnz | its perl that is giving the locale bullcrap |
| 08:29.56 | debian_pwnz | any idea whats up with it |
| 08:30.41 | tijn | anyone knows a flash creation tool under linux? |
| 08:30.52 | deadcat | no |
| 08:31.00 | nima | viv`d, meet me in #paste |
| 08:31.18 | debian_pwnz | flash creation isn't free is it? |
| 08:31.26 | tijn | it is |
| 08:31.32 | debian_pwnz | huh |
| 08:31.38 | tijn | there are some flash creation tools for linux |
| 08:31.40 | debian_pwnz | i thought it was some liscence shit |
| 08:31.40 | tijn | qflash |
| 08:31.49 | tijn | not that iam aware of |
| 08:32.05 | debian_pwnz | im out of date |
| 08:32.07 | debian_pwnz | very |
| 08:32.08 | tijn | hehe |
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| 08:32.19 | blaamann | I don't think Flash i free |
| 08:33.25 | blaamann | The specification is open but it is not free (AFAIK) |
| 08:34.10 | tijn | mmh dunno |
| 08:34.18 | tijn | i wil search for the project site |
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| 08:34.45 | Jerry | Do I need to install anything else with mp3blaster to be able to play mp3s? |
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| 08:37.18 | nima | is there any way to upgrade to debian unstable, but keep xfree86? |
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| 08:37.51 | villu | I'm trying to install Debian on Dell PowerEdge 750 with SATA but the installation can't find the disks. I think i need the ata_piix module. Is there any existing Sarge installation CD that works with 750? |
| 08:37.59 | absolutzero | why? would you have to use xorg if you went unstable? |
| 08:38.18 | nima | yeah, it tries to upgrade to it |
| 08:38.30 | harshal | villu: use 2.6 kernel while booting from cd. |
| 08:38.30 | viv`d | i think xorg is in testing now too |
| 08:38.37 | nima | it is |
| 08:38.43 | fooz | why not just upgrade? |
| 08:38.43 | nima | i got around it, though |
| 08:39.01 | nima | xorg doesnt like my video card or my touchscreen |
| 08:39.10 | fooz | which card? |
| 08:39.15 | absolutzero | I am reading about xorg now |
| 08:39.27 | viv`d | sounds like an s3 based card |
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| 08:39.29 | nima | some siliconmotion thing |
| 08:39.41 | jishin | villu: make sure you check that your SATA controller in BIOS is auto, not enhanced (which support 16 SATAs) |
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| 08:39.46 | absolutzero | I have used xfree86 for awhile, don't see the need to use anything else lol |
| 08:40.01 | fooz | which? Lynx? Cougar? |
| 08:40.15 | absolutzero | most of the time I am behind the console, thats why I want an image viewer |
| 08:40.17 | fooz | http://wiki.x.org/X11R6.8.0/doc/siliconmotion.4.html |
| 08:40.24 | jishin | villu: kernel 2.6.8 just support for 6 SATA maximum |
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| 08:41.00 | nima | my touchscreen is still not going to work |
| 08:41.04 | harshal | villu: at boot menu, type linux26 and press enter |
| 08:41.05 | absolutzero | also: Anybody having trouble getting to www.linux.org? I am getting a connection timeout error... |
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| 08:41.09 | fooz | what touchscreen is it? |
| 08:41.23 | nima | its a Gunze serial one |
| 08:41.30 | villu | ok.. will try... thanks! |
| 08:41.32 | nima | google didnt help much |
| 08:41.41 | viv`d | try the xorg wiki like he did |
| 08:41.45 | tijn | here is is http://f4l.sourceforge.net/ |
| 08:41.45 | fooz | Elographics? |
| 08:41.49 | tijn | flash 4 linux |
| 08:41.52 | harshal | I can access www.linux.org |
| 08:42.16 | absolutzero | crap guess it is just me |
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| 08:42.27 | fooz | nima, are you using the gunze kernel module? |
| 08:42.29 | absolutzero | let me links it |
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| 08:42.55 | absolutzero | nope getting a connection refused on all my boxes |
| 08:43.00 | nima | fooz, im using GunzeTS, for xfree86 |
| 08:43.20 | nima | absolutzero, maybe your provider? |
| 08:43.31 | absolutzero | maybe so |
| 08:43.49 | viv`d | can you access other sites? |
| 08:44.00 | absolutzero | yeah |
| 08:44.13 | fooz | nima, seems like a goofy way to do it.. there's a patch out there for a kernel driver, then X would just see it as a mouse |
| 08:44.21 | viv`d | when i was on cogent i had trouble with routes going down, which caused stuff like that |
| 08:44.57 | undefined | /msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 08:45.26 | nima | fooz, i think thats only for the usb ones |
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| 08:45.34 | fooz | it says 'Elographics serial touchscreen' |
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| 08:46.42 | fooz | nima, what model of touch screen is it? |
| 08:46.46 | fooz | if you know? |
| 08:47.04 | nima | i have no idea, all i know is that its a gunze serial touchsreen |
| 08:47.38 | absolutzero | The operation timed out when attempting to contact www.linux.org |
| 08:47.54 | fooz | oh well. |
| 08:48.20 | nima | be right back, going to grab some munchies |
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| 08:51.44 | absolutzero | hmm man that is bugging me |
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| 08:54.27 | absolutzero | ;s |
| 08:54.35 | absolutzero | whoops |
| 08:54.47 | basse | hi, I am trying to upgrade udev from 0.40 to 079. for some reason, apt wants to remove hotplug. any reason for this? |
| 08:54.59 | jm_ | bassMonkey: read the changelog |
| 08:55.00 | RichiH | basse: yes |
| 08:55.04 | jm_ | basse ^^^^ |
| 08:55.17 | fooz | basse, hotplug is dead. long live hotplug |
| 08:55.20 | RichiH | basse: i am rather sure apt-cache show udev will tell you, too |
| 08:55.25 | lunitik | basse: udev now provides the same functionality as hotplug |
| 08:55.38 | basse | ah. thats what I thought, just wanted to be sure. |
| 08:55.39 | RichiH | yep, it does |
| 08:55.41 | absolutzero | what is being used instead of hotplug? |
| 08:55.41 | basse | :) |
| 08:55.47 | RichiH | absolutzero: udev |
| 08:55.49 | fooz | basse, though before you start.. |
| 08:55.51 | lunitik | absolutzero: umm... udev |
| 08:55.52 | absolutzero | aha |
| 08:55.58 | fooz | basse, do you have any modules blacklisted in /etc/hotplug? |
| 08:56.06 | absolutzero | wonder if I am still using hotplug |
| 08:56.19 | basse | i was worried since it took me little bit to get my camera working nicely in hotplug things |
| 08:56.22 | nima | back |
| 08:56.29 | basse | fooz: blacklisted.. hmm, I dont know.. |
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| 08:56.42 | fooz | basse, if you didn't manually blacklist any, don't worry about it much.. |
| 08:56.47 | lunitik | basse: if you didn't blacklist anything manually... you prolly didn't... |
| 08:56.51 | fooz | if you did, you'll have to change over to doing it via modprobe.d |
| 08:56.57 | basse | fooz: blacklist has bunch of stuff |
| 08:57.03 | fooz | basse, yes but that's by default |
| 08:57.23 | Paivakil | is it possible to get archives of a lists.d.o mailing list in .mbox format? |
| 08:57.23 | fooz | basse, you may find some modules load that you didn't want to (like if you built both OSS and alsa, and suddenly next boot the OSS one loads instead) |
| 08:57.44 | fooz | basse, in that case, just make a file in /etc/modprobe.d with any name you want, like 'basse' |
| 08:57.47 | basse | no i dont think I have touched that file. |
| 08:58.09 | fooz | basse, put a line like 'blacklist <module name here>' in it.. and you're done |
| 08:58.46 | fooz | basse, udev handles the basic hotplug stuff, most more powerful stuff can be done by scripting udev |
| 08:58.59 | fooz | udev's really powerful and nifty |
| 08:59.29 | fooz | it can even rename your ethernet devices if you teach it to.. so eth0 can become 'lan' or 'cablemodem' |
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| 09:00.20 | jm_ | but you don't need udev to do that |
| 09:00.41 | absolutzero | I have hotplug and udev installed according to dpkg -L udev&&dpkg -L hotplug |
| 09:00.42 | basse | fooz: funny thingis, udev seems to depend on hotplug. while same time wanting to remove it :) |
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| 09:00.48 | basse | thats why I also got concerned a bit |
| 09:00.53 | fooz | jm_, yeah but it'll do it by its mac address or driver.. |
| 09:00.56 | jm_ | old version depends on hotplug, new one doesn't |
| 09:01.03 | fooz | jm_, or any other sysfs entry |
| 09:01.04 | absolutzero | aha |
| 09:01.08 | jm_ | fooz: I like to avoid it for now ;) |
| 09:01.14 | absolutzero | why is udev better? |
| 09:01.26 | basse | fooz: you are using gnome now? |
| 09:01.32 | fooz | basse, nah I use E DR16 |
| 09:01.36 | fooz | i have for years |
| 09:01.44 | fooz | I've been using E since DR15 |
| 09:01.44 | basse | hmm, no idea what that is even. |
| 09:01.51 | fooz | Enlightenment |
| 09:01.55 | basse | oh that thing. heh. |
| 09:02.01 | basse | i tried it years ago. |
| 09:02.09 | basse | weird flashy thing. |
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| 09:02.24 | absolutzero | Gnome applets are alway crashing on my system |
| 09:02.25 | fooz | nah, I use Absolute E and turn off all the animation crap, it's real unobtrusive (no buttons whatsoever) |
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| 09:02.34 | absolutzero | KDE works well though |
| 09:02.40 | fooz | but it's not very configurable anymore |
| 09:03.02 | fooz | and starts to fail on weird new technologies like fonts |
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| 09:03.34 | fooz | ratpoison's kinda evil. i ran larswm for a while |
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| 09:03.46 | nima | hahaha |
| 09:03.51 | nima | whats so evil? |
| 09:03.56 | fooz | but the only keyboard windowing interfaces I like are in emacs |
| 09:03.56 | nima | about it |
| 09:04.04 | grumpydog | fluxbox is evil |
| 09:04.07 | fooz | and there's no usable emacswm yet |
| 09:04.13 | absolutzero | I like gnome because it is not as system heavy as KDE but like I said, it is always fouling up whereas KDE does not |
| 09:04.31 | streuner | dpkg, start a wm war |
| 09:04.34 | nima | i like the simple look of gnome |
| 09:04.40 | nima | !start a wm war |
| 09:04.48 | nima | dpkg is dead |
| 09:04.53 | tabris | lagging anyhow |
| 09:05.16 | fooz | the thumbnails load on the openbox screenshots page but not the shots themselves |
| 09:05.18 | grumpydog | absolutzero: I prefer KDE but it depends on the system and linux distro, I have found gnome works better than KDE on RH. |
| 09:05.39 | nima | i like wm wars |
| 09:05.42 | tabris | grumpydog: given that RH is primarily a GNOME sponsor, this is hardly surprising. |
| 09:05.50 | lunitik | absolutzero: actually... you'll find they are about as heavy as each other... memory wise. |
| 09:05.52 | grumpydog | tabris: yeah lol |
| 09:05.54 | streuner | apt, start a wm war |
| 09:05.55 | apt | blackbox blows! |
| 09:06.08 | nima | indeed |
| 09:06.10 | absolutzero | gnome performs faster |
| 09:06.12 | fooz | last time I really used either desktop environment was during their 1.0s |
| 09:06.16 | streuner | dondelelcaro: your bot sucks |
| 09:06.18 | absolutzero | that is on my syste, |
| 09:06.33 | fooz | I ran KDE 1.0 the week it came out, on my 486.. all compiled manually from source |
| 09:06.44 | tabris | back when KDE was in its 1.0 and 2.0 stage, I was an Enlightenment fan... |
| 09:06.47 | lunitik | fooz: you're so leet |
| 09:06.48 | absolutzero | Enlightment blows.... never can figure that thing out |
| 09:06.53 | tabris | I never liekd GNOME per se, but I liked Enlightenment... |
| 09:06.54 | fooz | that took a while |
| 09:06.55 | absolutzero | looks prettyy... cant do nothing |
| 09:06.56 | tabris | and now i'm a KDE3 guy |
| 09:06.57 | fooz | lunitik, yes i know |
| 09:07.05 | absolutzero | KDE3 me likes |
| 09:07.21 | grumpydog | so KDE it is for dinner :P |
| 09:07.27 | fooz | absolutzero, it manages windowws |
| 09:07.37 | absolutzero | lol fooz |
| 09:07.51 | grumpydog | kde likes me too |
| 09:07.57 | nima | what was the point of debian going to udev? |
| 09:08.13 | fooz | udev is The Future |
| 09:08.14 | tabris | nima: uhh. devfs is going bye-bye. |
| 09:08.24 | tabris | nima: further, hotplug is going away, and udev is taking its place. |
| 09:08.26 | absolutzero | back in the day I had KDE3 running on cygwin, had my windows desktop and my KDE3 desktop, it was awesome |
| 09:08.27 | nima | i mean, what was the differance |
| 09:08.29 | GregorR-L | fooz: Is that "the future" or "/THE FUTUUUUUUURE/"? |
| 09:08.29 | streuner | nima: sounds like a question for #debian-boot |
| 09:08.50 | tabris | nima: devfs vs udev? a) code quality b) policy in the kernel. at least if you listen to GregKH |
| 09:09.13 | absolutzero | I evetually would like to wokr my system down to ONE window manager... Itried to kill gnome but it is too engrained |
| 09:09.17 | tabris | devfs had bugs from the getgo, and the writer largely abandoned it, esp after the onslaught of commentary from Al Viro. |
| 09:09.52 | tabris | as to udev vs hotplug, they both run off hotplug events. and i guess instead of merging udev into hotplug, udev is taking over for hotplug |
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| 09:10.50 | tabris | I liked the (user-level) simplicity and reliability devfs gave tho... udev bit me a lot. |
| 09:11.08 | fooz | udev never gave me any problems.. |
| 09:11.09 | absolutzero | what was wrong with hotplug? It always worked for me |
| 09:11.16 | grumpydog | I must say, debian users are quite friendly. |
| 09:11.38 | streuner | heh, stay here longer :-P |
| 09:11.40 | tabris | absolutzero: i'm not sure anything was wrong with it, but for forking and maintenance issues |
| 09:11.47 | absolutzero | grumpydog: go away noober (lol just kidding) |
| 09:11.52 | absolutzero | aha |
| 09:12.05 | grumpydog | streuner: lol |
| 09:12.11 | nima | grumpydog, whats your distro? |
| 09:12.13 | streuner | fooz: well, you are pretty alone then ;-) |
| 09:12.25 | absolutzero | guesing redhat... |
| 09:12.40 | fooz | nah i'm leet like lunitik said |
| 09:12.42 | grumpydog | absolutzero: shush before I amke you install gentoo hehe :) just joking buddy :) |
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| 09:12.53 | tabris | I was MDK for a while... but swinging towards Debian. so far looksl ike debian for servers... |
| 09:12.57 | fooz | i'm his hero i guess |
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| 09:12.59 | tabris | not sure what I want/like for desktops yet. |
| 09:13.02 | absolutzero | lol. that was a good one rotfl |
| 09:13.07 | basse | oh, one more thing.. is 2.6.14 the current sid kernel? |
| 09:13.20 | nima | tabris, give ubuntu a shot |
| 09:13.35 | tabris | nima: tried kubuntu. so far didn't like it. |
| 09:13.42 | grumpydog | nima I actully run debian, netbsd, freebsd, fedora and windows for my sins |
| 09:13.52 | GregorR-L | Try Ubuntu, Mandriva, Fedora Core, Debian, Slackware and SLS. |
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| 09:14.08 | Zugschlus | !dpkg start a distribution war |
| 09:14.09 | streuner | Why shouldn't somebody not just use debian as desktop system? (i use it serveral years) |
| 09:14.12 | tabris | I was a MDK fan... but just couldn't do it. |
| 09:14.15 | tabris | not anymore anyhow |
| 09:14.26 | streuner | debian is just fine for Desktop as well |
| 09:14.28 | tabris | streuner: uhhh. _I_ could. trouble really is I need to find something that I can _sell_ |
| 09:14.41 | tabris | and I don't think I can sell debian to noob users |
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| 09:14.48 | absolutzero | Mandrake? Mandrake was preety good, expect the backward compatibility thing.... didn't have it |
| 09:14.55 | GregorR-L | streuner: I have no idea what "Why shouldn't somebody not just use debian as desktop system?" means ... |
| 09:14.58 | AoA | Why /dev/dsp is not created upon boot ? Earlier it did, but now not. I created manualy using "mknod /dev/dsp c 14 3" , but sometimes works , sometimes not. I tried to use alsaconf stuff, but without hope |
| 09:15.00 | tabris | apt: start a distribution war! |
| 09:15.13 | grumpydog | nima my home set up http://www.grumpydog.co.uk/mess2.jpg |
| 09:15.15 | absolutzero | Debian is great about using the newer libs on older programs |
| 09:15.20 | tabris | AoA: uhhh. you need to be sure snd-pcm-oss and snd-mixer-oss are loaded |
| 09:15.20 | grumpydog | it is a mess |
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| 09:15.48 | absolutzero | lordy grumpy, you snuck in my house and took that pic |
| 09:15.50 | nima | HOLY SHIT |
| 09:15.56 | relic | ? |
| 09:16.03 | nima | thats a lot of computers |
| 09:16.03 | GregorR-L | UNHOLY URINE |
| 09:16.21 | absolutzero | How many running linux? |
| 09:16.38 | grumpydog | absolutzero: heh you should see this http://www.grumpydog.co.uk/comp.jpg now that is a mess too |
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| 09:17.04 | AoA | tabris : can I see that using "lsmod". Now I type "lsmod" ...and I dont have it... |
| 09:17.21 | tabris | AoA: ok... modprobe snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss |
| 09:17.47 | tabris | AoA: if you're running udev, the /dev/dsp should show up now. otoh, what you should do is try to make your apps use ALSA and not OSS. |
| 09:17.50 | jrf | heh, recently a college-guy friend of mine commented on how his roomates could not understand why he "needed" 3 computers |
| 09:18.09 | jrf | one for testing, one for backup and one for using everyday |
| 09:18.13 | deadcat | jrf: i dont understand either. WHY? |
| 09:18.18 | deadcat | o |
| 09:18.22 | jrf | :) |
| 09:18.25 | relic | x |
| 09:18.32 | nima | be right back, restarting |
| 09:18.32 | tabris | how about raw computing power? |
| 09:18.44 | deadcat | 1 for backup? just mount the hd, backup, umount hd |
| 09:18.47 | jrf | actually, in his case I dont think that is much of a problem |
| 09:18.48 | grumpydog | jrf: I have at least two victim computers |
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| 09:18.57 | jrf | I have one |
| 09:19.03 | jrf | I would like two :) |
| 09:19.09 | jrf | (victims that is) |
| 09:19.30 | deadcat | i need a mac mini for web/ssh/file serving my desktop is too noisy |
| 09:19.33 | relic | what victim? |
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| 09:19.50 | AoA | tabris : ok, dsp shows up, but what to do to show up on boot ? |
| 09:19.53 | jrf | victim = testbox |
| 09:20.43 | absolutzero | hmmm win I login to vnc, I am getting gnome but i want KDE, how do i change that? |
| 09:20.48 | tabris|away | AoA: I'd suggest trying to fix your apps to use ALSA now, and sto using the oss stuff |
| 09:21.20 | AoA | tabris|away : my appps using alsa, but some stof using /dev/dsp |
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| 09:21.52 | tabris|away | AoA: /dev/dsp is OSS. thus if your app is using /dev/dsp, it's using OSS. QED. |
| 09:21.54 | grumpydog | absolutzero: just install KDE |
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| 09:22.06 | streuner | oss-emulation |
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| 09:22.32 | grumpydog | gnome throws mass errors at me using sarge. |
| 09:22.50 | absolutzero | I have KDE installed |
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| 09:22.59 | tabris|away | grumpydog: tried finding an officer instead of an enlisted system? |
| 09:23.02 | absolutzero | but i need to change my default windows manager |
| 09:23.16 | absolutzero | instead of gnome I want KDE to be my default |
| 09:23.26 | AoA | tabris|away : aha, I have many apps using OSS, for example some program named ffmpeg , skype, and I cannot changed that , I think |
| 09:23.33 | streuner | ~wm |
| 09:23.34 | apt | rumour has it, wm is an abbreviation for "window manager", but some people think it means "wmaker" (window maker), which is just one WM. |
| 09:23.39 | grumpydog | tabris|away: shush you, I am ex-army as you know :) |
| 09:23.52 | absolutzero | ack just found it default-display-manager |
| 09:23.54 | tabris|away | AoA: afaik Skype should support ALSA, given it's so bleeding new. |
| 09:24.04 | streuner | ravenbird: wm |
| 09:24.10 | fooz | man.. kde is 491mb |
| 09:24.16 | streuner | @wm |
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| 09:24.31 | absolutzero | nope thats just the login manager |
| 09:24.36 | fooz | hehe |
| 09:24.45 | fooz | the kde metapackage installs a lot of useless crap.. |
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| 09:24.48 | grumpydog | fooz np there, only takes like 40 seconds to download half GB |
| 09:24.53 | streuner | absolutzero: /msg ravenbird wm |
| 09:24.54 | fooz | yeah but, disk space |
| 09:24.56 | nima_ | woohoo, new kernel is awesome |
| 09:25.11 | dimir | Morning! |
| 09:25.31 | streuner | absolutzero: edit ~/.xsession and put 'exec startkde' |
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| 09:25.36 | absolutzero | danke |
| 09:25.43 | fooz | i've only got a 6TB SAN hosting /usr and it's out of space from having openoffice installed |
| 09:25.47 | grumpydog | fooz well really disk space is nothing to worry about or one should not. |
| 09:26.06 | fooz | disk space is always short man |
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| 09:26.26 | absolutzero | I just relaixed xseeion was a sheel script and not a binary |
| 09:26.28 | grumpydog | fooz, depending on your pr0n |
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| 09:27.01 | absolutzero | hmmm |
| 09:27.04 | absolutzero | it's blank |
| 09:27.10 | fooz | i've got debian on an 18GB SCSI disk |
| 09:27.11 | AoA | tabris|away : I see skype doesn support alsa, Is there any way to load that module on boot , that oss module |
| 09:27.17 | fooz | /usr is only 8gb and is nearly full |
| 09:27.23 | fooz | life sucks :/ |
| 09:27.51 | grumpydog | fooz my lowest drive is 40GB the rest are all 120GB plus |
| 09:27.56 | dli | fooz, that's why a single big partition is recommended |
| 09:27.59 | fooz | that's nice |
| 09:28.05 | fooz | dli, err.. no |
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| 09:28.17 | absolutzero | means it's been reading the xsession data from somewhere else... |
| 09:28.39 | fooz | dli, I could easily resize things.. that's not the problem.. the problem is the other volumes are full |
| 09:28.42 | fooz | heh |
| 09:28.44 | streuner | absolutzero: man startx |
| 09:29.05 | fooz | oh neat, 4gb was an old temp file i don't need anymore. problem solved |
| 09:29.09 | grumpydog | fooz stick in another drive set up raid |
| 09:29.14 | absolutzero | couldnt hurt. man I read a lot of man pages lol |
| 09:30.14 | marcel_ | Is there a driver for Homeplug USB devices with Intellon X1 chipset |
| 09:30.39 | nima | whats homeplug |
| 09:30.55 | grumpydog | marcel_ not that I am aware of. |
| 09:31.01 | marcel_ | networking over powerlines |
| 09:31.45 | streuner | absolutzero: http://channels.debian.net/paste2/1401 |
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| 09:33.01 | absolutzero | hey thats useful |
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| 09:34.04 | grumpydog | break time. |
| 09:34.10 | absolutzero | so if I put .xsession in my home directory it should bypass the normal default startup? |
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| 09:35.01 | streuner | absolutzero: are you running a desktop manager such like gdm, wdm, kdm? |
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| 09:35.22 | absolutzero | I am using kdm |
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| 09:35.33 | streuner | s/desktop manager/display manager/ |
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| 09:35.50 | absolutzero | ? |
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| 09:35.59 | streuner | absolutzero: /msg ravenbird nodm |
| 09:37.11 | absolutzero | so I will not be able to use .xsession unti I kill my dm? |
| 09:37.24 | streuner | sure |
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| 09:40.13 | absolutzero | hmm, I'll just leave the display manager makes it easier on my kids |
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| 09:44.36 | galois | what command should be used to look for a word in a config file (i.e. search all config files for 1 typo) |
| 09:44.55 | NichtMued | grep? |
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| 09:45.33 | peppet | galois, grep -r word /etc/* |
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| 09:45.45 | galois | peppet: cheers |
| 09:46.03 | hawking | from which repository can i get tor? I've been googling for half an hour found nothing |
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| 09:46.57 | jeans | hallo! |
| 09:47.18 | NichtMued | !ping |
| 09:47.30 | dli | hawking, tor proxying? |
| 09:48.00 | hawking | yup anyway I found it |
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| 09:50.55 | Col_Kernel | Hi, I just wanted to report a bug with reportbug, but it failed with "SMTP send failure: {'submit@bugs.debian.org': (550, 'relay not permitted')}" |
| 09:51.15 | Bedge | mm yes |
| 09:51.21 | GregorR-L | Col_Kernel: Use reportbug to report the bug in reportbug ;) |
| 09:51.23 | Bedge | ive olso that problem often |
| 09:52.00 | Col_Kernel | Is there a problem with my local mail setup or what's the cause? |
| 09:52.10 | NichtMued | I am using Sarge. I want to backup data on DVDRAMs. Because I have performance problems with the standard setup (mkudffs + mount -t udf) I want to try the 2.6 kernel packet writing driver. The pktcdvd module is not included with the 2.6.8 kernel. Therefore I grabbed the 2.6.12 Debian source, used the 2.6.8 .config as template, compiled, and installed. After reboot I got a freeze and then a kernel panic. |
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| 09:53.00 | NichtMued | Has anyone heard of common problems when compiling a 2.6.12 kernel under Sarge? |
| 09:53.02 | sussudio | NichtMued: did you do make newconfig? |
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| 09:53.17 | NichtMued | sussudio: No, I did a make menuconfig. |
| 09:53.24 | peppet | NichtMued, you forget initrd? |
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| 09:53.30 | sussudio | NichtMued: you should do make newconfig first |
| 09:53.36 | NichtMued | sussudio: OK |
| 09:53.44 | sussudio | why would you need initrd with a self-compiled kernel? |
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| 09:54.35 | NichtMued | peppet: I did read some howtos. Seems like Sarge / 2.6 make-kpkg produces an initrd kernel by default... |
| 09:54.37 | GregorR-L | sussudio: If you don't have ext2 compiled statically into the kernel, it can't mount / (a common problem) |
| 09:54.58 | jm_ | that's pretty stupid config for a self compiled kernel |
| 09:55.00 | peppet | NichtMued, ok |
| 09:55.09 | sussudio | GregorR-L: why would a sane person not compile ext2 into the kernel and use initrd instead? |
| 09:55.45 | NichtMued | sussudio: I am not sane :-) My strategy was "use a working kernel configuration and make as little changes as possible" |
| 09:55.53 | sussudio | ... |
| 09:55.57 | GregorR-L | Not sure :) |
| 09:56.22 | doubleukay | mounting / on LVM, for one --> [28/12 17:53] sussudio: why would you need initrd with a self-compiled kernel? |
| 09:56.44 | GregorR-L | wk? |
| 09:56.47 | NichtMued | I read the only reason to generate a hand-made initrd kernel is if you want to deploy the new kernel onto several different machines... |
| 09:57.03 | GregorR-L | That is what's most helpful about initrds. |
| 09:57.23 | doubleukay | yups? --> [28/12 17:56] GregorR-L: wk? |
| 09:57.45 | NichtMued | And what about this new udev that replaces dev? I didn't get that... |
| 09:57.48 | GregorR-L | The real question was, what does that stand for? :) |
| 09:58.04 | GregorR-L | NichtMued: udev replaces devfs |
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| 09:58.54 | kombi | which sasl package do you use for postfix? |
| 10:00.07 | doubleukay | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:00.27 | doubleukay | (i hope i understood your question correctly!) |
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| 10:02.50 | deadcat | my glxgears gives me 500fps, i feel like installing CS+wine (= |
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| 10:05.33 | raz0rsedge | moin |
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| 10:06.54 | MrEntropy | what package do i need to install to get inttypes.h and bitypes.h? |
| 10:07.01 | dondelelcaro | !tell MrEntropy -about search |
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| 10:09.04 | GregorR-L | !tell GregorR-L -about search |
| 10:09.38 | dondelelcaro | GregorR-L: you can /msg the bot too... |
| 10:09.49 | GregorR-L | Oh, heheh >_> |
| 10:10.33 | strat | anyone know anything about alsa??have real time module installed and have jack installed..but when i run qjackctl..it says there no /dev/snd/seq..i had demudi installed and its basically a sarge based distro and it had midi working.. |
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| 10:12.27 | relic | deadcat, 500fps? oh |
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| 10:13.22 | relic | deadcat, at least 3800~7800fps on a recycled card |
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| 10:13.47 | SimonRaven | !test |
| 10:14.03 | relic | !sure |
| 10:14.06 | SimonRaven | hrm |
| 10:14.12 | relic | hehe |
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| 10:14.23 | SimonRaven | dpkg: wake up |
| 10:14.30 | row | how do you save a file with lynx and not open it with the application for that file type? |
| 10:14.46 | elesouef | Hi all, I have a nec express server (5800). The sarge install refuse to boot after the initrd loading. Any idea ? |
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| 10:16.19 | peppet | elesouef, have you tried with both 2.4 and 2.6 kernel? |
| 10:16.36 | elesouef | peppet: yes. and the noapic/nolapic args... |
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| 10:17.27 | SimonRaven | !test |
| 10:17.28 | dpkg | Yes, simonraven, you're still online. |
| 10:17.29 | peppet | elesouef, and noacpi? |
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| 10:17.40 | hooya | hi all, install fails at "scanning disks" every time. dual xeon, 3ware 8506-4lp with RAID 0 with 2x seagate 250GB drives. ideas? |
| 10:17.42 | SimonRaven | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 10:17.45 | dondelelcaro | SimonRaven: np |
| 10:18.02 | elesouef | peppet: hmmm, let's test it. not sure I tried... |
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| 10:18.09 | Paivakil | hooya: what are you trying to install? |
| 10:18.55 | hooya | sarge. tried both the i386/i686 and AMD64 archs with the business card CD images. |
| 10:19.18 | hooya | Paivakil: ^^ |
| 10:20.11 | Paivakil | probably, there is a problem detecting raid , try ctl+alt+F2 and look at the error messages |
| 10:20.53 | hooya | can't. it's frozen. tried the expert mode. same diff. |
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| 10:21.17 | elesouef | peppet: no luck... it says "Ready." after loading initrd.gz but it stops... |
| 10:21.51 | rage | Hey, I've got a special button on my keyboard, it doesnt report the "Unkown key released" thing when I press it, Gnomes hotkey manager picks it up, but it only works with certain functions, how can I find out more about this key and perhaps give it a keycode |
| 10:22.16 | kristalino | how to install a debian in chrooted environment ? |
| 10:22.18 | Paivakil | hooya: I think the problem is in detecting the raid setup |
| 10:22.21 | hooya | i've used the exact same 3ware cards on other servers and it's worked just fine. i wonder what exactly it's trying to do when "scanning disks" |
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| 10:22.45 | peppet | try debian-installer/probe/usb=false too |
| 10:23.03 | Paivakil | hooya: looking for hard disks to install into |
| 10:23.06 | basse | after upgrading udev, my camera still works, but I can access to it only as root. hotplug script seems ok.. where can I check what permissions it set? |
| 10:23.06 | elesouef | peppet: ok. |
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| 10:23.11 | hooya | i'm starting to suspect the BIOS thing for the card is screwed up. |
| 10:23.13 | faisal_d | guys i have been trying all morning to install Debian Sarge and it has given me a serious headache... can anybody help |
| 10:23.33 | NichtMued | Is it possible to use the 2.6.12 pktcdvd kernel module with a 2.6.8 kernel? How could I do that? How risky would it be to do that? |
| 10:23.35 | PiPi | rage: try "xev" |
| 10:24.40 | elesouef | peppet: same issue... |
| 10:25.01 | hooya | Paivakil: yeah. but what exactly is it trying to probe? anyhow, i'll try messing around with the 3ware card and see if it helps. |
| 10:25.03 | hooya | :( |
| 10:26.12 | Paivakil | hooya: did you ask google? looking at the amd64 archives may also help |
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| 10:27.04 | peppet | elesouef, have you tried all previous parameters with linux26? |
| 10:27.11 | hooya | asked google. google didn't have much to say on the subject. |
| 10:27.17 | elesouef | peppet: currently testing :) |
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| 10:29.44 | kristalino | how to install a debian in chrooted environment ? |
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| 10:29.53 | shining | hi |
| 10:29.57 | elesouef | peppet: no, not better... |
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| 10:30.34 | Zap-W | BANANAS! |
| 10:30.36 | chrisk | Hi, the hd of my laptop broke down today, which means I can't boot linux (disk seek error) and windows also fails. Is it somehow possible to connect the hd with my usual pc and rescue the data from my home partition? |
| 10:31.04 | jm_ | chrisk: ddrescue might help to salvage some of it |
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| 10:31.14 | faisal_d | chrisk: why not use a live CD, and rescue stuff?? |
| 10:31.14 | shining | I've a problem with linux-image-2.6.14-2-386 package. I can remove it but not purge it. How could I force it? |
| 10:31.37 | Zap-W | dpkg BANANAS! |
| 10:31.37 | dpkg | from memory, bananas! is B-A-N-A-N-A-S!!! |
| 10:31.38 | Zap-W | dpkg BANANAS! |
| 10:31.44 | hooya | Paivakil: removed the 3ware card, booted the computer, shut it down, installed the 3ware card, booted the computer. am now past the "scanning disks" phase!! yay! |
| 10:31.52 | rage | PiPi: xev reports its keycode is 147, I've tried setkeycodes 147 19 for example to turn it into an 'r' key, but it doesnt seem to work, xev still reports the keysym is 0x0, NoSymbol |
| 10:32.10 | chrisk | faisal_d: Well, but can I save then the data to an usb stick? And if yes, which live cd would you suggest? |
| 10:32.32 | fooz | kde doesn't support dualhead worth a crap |
| 10:32.36 | fooz | oh well |
| 10:32.42 | chrisk | jm_: Nice idea, but how do I connect an laptop hd to an normal pc? |
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| 10:33.25 | faisal_d | chrisk: sure... if you use a live cd, you can use a USB normally, or you can connect to your desktop using ethernet and transfer files to it... i would suggest Ubuntu live, or Knoppix |
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| 10:34.01 | hooya | chrisk: you can get cables that allow your laptop harddrive to be plugged into the regular IDE slot. |
| 10:34.10 | shining | it's annoying, this package stays in this section in synaptic, I want to remove it |
| 10:34.16 | runn | about /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:34.17 | jm_ | chrisk: there are 2.5" IDE to 3.5" IDE converters |
| 10:34.41 | runn | what should amount source list |
| 10:34.55 | chrisk | faisal_d: Ah, thanks. But I'm not sure about ethernet, because I already tried that in the morning to sync the laptop hd to my home system and somehow the two system wouldn't see each other. |
| 10:35.18 | chrisk | hooya, jm_ : Thanks for the hint about cable/connectors. That's good to know. |
| 10:35.25 | faisal_d | chrisk: well anyhow... you can use the live CD, and from there use USB or even burn CDs if you have a writer |
| 10:35.58 | chrisk | So I think I'll first try the live CD and if that fails the cable/adapter solution. Somehow I'll hopefully rescue my home-data. :-) |
| 10:36.23 | absolutzero | muhahah I love wine |
| 10:36.26 | jm_ | well you can also try to use Live CD and ddrescue to dump it on a networked host |
| 10:36.31 | olczyk | . |
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| 10:37.02 | kristalino | i have linux installed and i'd like to install a debian in another partition in a chrooted env. is it possible ? |
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| 10:37.24 | chrisk | jm_: Well, if I would be able to figure out why my laptop and my main system didn't talk to each other this morning, I would surely do that. :-) |
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| 10:37.37 | harshal | kristalino: you can have multiple linux distros in one machine\ |
| 10:37.39 | Zap-W | dpkg: l2tp? |
| 10:37.39 | dpkg | l2tp is probably Layer Two (2) Tunneling Protocol an extension to the PPP protocol that enables ISPs to operate Virtual Private Networks (VPNs),ask me about RP-L2TP or OpenL2TP |
| 10:38.02 | kristalino | harshal, that is not my question |
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| 10:38.13 | harshal | dristalino: oh. |
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| 10:39.20 | shining | hmm |
| 10:39.35 | shining | does anyone know apt-get ? |
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| 10:39.46 | deadcat | shining: you nuts? |
| 10:39.57 | shining | I've some doubts |
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| 10:40.54 | chrisk | Thanks for your help guys! |
| 10:40.56 | jm_ | kristalino: yes, read installation manual |
| 10:41.01 | `9m4re` | is it possible : install openoffice 2.0 on sarge ? |
| 10:41.16 | faisal_d | chrisk: anytime |
| 10:41.38 | shining | there is a package I can't purge, apt-get is stuck when I try to. But I still want to remove this package from its unpurged state |
| 10:41.50 | bizkit | !info sarge openoffice.org |
| 10:41.56 | shining | that's not possible? |
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| 10:42.09 | jm_ | why can't you purge it? |
| 10:42.12 | RichiH | shining: paste the output of apt. see /topic for where to paste |
| 10:42.15 | bizkit | err |
| 10:42.16 | shining | apt-get gets stuck |
| 10:42.21 | bizkit | !info openoffice.org sarge |
| 10:42.23 | bizkit | this way ;) |
| 10:42.34 | dpkg | openoffice.org: (high-quality office productivity suite), section editors, is optional. Version: 1.1.3-9 (sarge), Packaged size: 6712 kB, Installed size: 28944 kB |
| 10:42.35 | jm_ | can you be less vague? |
| 10:42.53 | tam | what file does kontact keep my address book in? |
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| 10:43.24 | `9m4re` | bizkit, no sir, OpenOffice 2.0 |
| 10:43.28 | `9m4re` | not 1.1.3 |
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| 10:44.06 | bizkit | sorry `9m4re`.. dunno then, try a backport |
| 10:44.18 | shining | RichiH: http://rafb.net/paste/results/Aw00cz67.html |
| 10:45.25 | shining | isn't it weird? |
| 10:45.29 | RichiH | shining: that does not read complete |
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| 10:45.33 | shining | I don't know what it's doing |
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| 10:45.42 | Fabiano | hi |
| 10:45.43 | shining | it just gets stuck there and doesnt finish |
| 10:45.49 | shining | I've no idea why, it's silly |
| 10:45.53 | dimir | !nickometer `9m4re` |
| 10:45.54 | dpkg | '`9m4re`' is 39.000% lame, dimir |
| 10:45.56 | RichiH | oh |
| 10:46.00 | Fabiano | do you speak portugues? |
| 10:46.01 | RichiH | shit |
| 10:46.03 | `9m4re` | ?? |
| 10:46.04 | koshbot | ??[x]: Usage: ?? <word> [> nick] |
| 10:46.06 | RichiH | !pt |
| 10:46.06 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 10:46.16 | `9m4re` | !nickometer dimir |
| 10:46.18 | dpkg | 'dimir' is 0.000% lame, `9m4re` |
| 10:46.29 | relic | banana portugues? |
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| 10:46.53 | RichiH | shining: try apt-get install -f |
| 10:47.05 | Fabiano | relic:fala portugues? |
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| 10:47.13 | relic | AOP |
| 10:47.21 | RichiH | Fabiano: /join #debian-br |
| 10:47.24 | basse | hi, could someone give me a hand with hotplug/udev ? |
| 10:47.35 | RichiH | !tell basse about ask |
| 10:47.42 | shining | RichiH: I can install it fine, without -f |
| 10:48.05 | shining | then I tried apt-get remove --purge -f linux-image-2.6.14-2-386 , but it didn't help |
| 10:48.48 | shining | the package is removed and purged, but apt-get doesn't terminate properly, and the package remains in unpurged state |
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| 10:48.56 | peppet | shining, apt-get install -f[enter] |
| 10:49.02 | basse | :) after upgrading udev, my usb camera permissions doesn't get set anymore correctly. hotplug settings have changed a bit, but I dont see what I am doing wrong. (camera still works as root) |
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| 10:49.13 | RichiH | shining: i meant the literal 'apt-get install -f' as this can fix some problems. i guess you will have to look in the postdel scripts of the package to figure out what it tries to do |
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| 10:49.42 | Fabiano | RiciH:mas naum estou recebendo nada em portugues!!! |
| 10:49.48 | RichiH | shining: hrm.. perhaps search bugs.debian.org.. |
| 10:49.58 | bizkit | dpkg: tell basse about discover |
| 10:50.16 | RichiH | Fabiano: i don't understand you, sorry :( |
| 10:50.25 | xmd | hello, i am trying to install a kernel with apt-get install, question is.. i have 2.2 now and i need to install 2.4 so i can use iptables, problem is that 2.4 or 2.6 don't detect my nic |
| 10:50.34 | Fabiano | RichiH: OK |
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| 10:50.38 | shining | peppet, RichiH : ho I see |
| 10:50.40 | xmd | nic is rtl8139... debian stable |
| 10:50.44 | Zap-W | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:50.50 | shining | it didn't do anything though |
| 10:50.56 | shining | RichiH: ok thanks |
| 10:51.05 | bizkit | xmd: this nic is supported by 2.4 and 2.6 |
| 10:51.55 | xmd | yes.. i have it at home.. and on other 2 workstations |
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| 10:52.04 | basse | bizkit: everything is detected alright. its just that I think the gphoto2 script that should set the permissions, never get executed. and I dont know why that is. |
| 10:52.08 | xmd | it always get's detected automated |
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| 10:53.46 | bizkit | xmd: you said 'problem is that 2.4 or 2.6 don't detect my nic' |
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| 10:55.21 | xmd | don't load the module.. or they don't have the module i guess |
| 10:55.38 | bizkit | xmd: on 2.6 install module-init-tools |
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| 10:56.33 | Cope | googling for how to disable ipv6 suggests removing net-pf-10; but I can't find any kernel module like that... has this changed? |
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| 10:57.06 | xmd | bizkit module-init-tools is installed |
| 10:57.35 | bizkit | xmd: which kernel do have running now? |
| 10:57.42 | xmd | 2.2.20 |
| 10:58.00 | bizkit | did you install 2.6? |
| 10:58.05 | shining | RichiH: I didn't find any bugs about it. I'm now looking for debian docs about postdel scripts |
| 10:58.09 | xmd | bizkit : yes |
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| 10:58.43 | bizkit | xmd: then view the kernel config of the 2.6 |
| 10:59.03 | shining | RichiH: I'm not sure which doc I need, I didn't find anything in the apt howto |
| 10:59.06 | bizkit | xmd: search for CONFIG_8139TOO, CONFIG_8139CP, CONFIG_NET_PCI.. |
| 10:59.22 | xmd | bizkit : where do i view the config ? |
| 10:59.26 | relic | ohad, 8139 never die |
| 10:59.51 | bizkit | xmd: the should be at least 'm', however if you installed the debian packaged 2.6 kernel they are in there, i'm quite sure since rtl8139 is a very common card |
| 11:00.11 | xmd | i am too.. this never happend before |
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| 11:00.20 | relic | via_rhine > 8139 |
| 11:00.35 | xmd | ? |
| 11:00.45 | Fabio | Hi |
| 11:00.46 | relic | average 2k+ |
| 11:00.54 | doubleukay | hi guys, what's the simplest program that takes input from stdin and spits it out to a file? |
| 11:00.54 | bizkit | 8139 is a cheap card, but no one cares now?.. |
| 11:00.54 | relic | speed |
| 11:01.04 | Zap-W | 8139 A and B suck |
| 11:01.05 | bizkit | xmd: try loading the module manually when on 2.6 |
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| 11:01.10 | xmd | this are D |
| 11:01.16 | doubleukay | i plan to write a file over the network using ssh. |
| 11:01.18 | Zap-W | Dont know about D |
| 11:01.25 | xmd | bizkit : it dosen't seem to have the module |
| 11:01.28 | doubleukay | (not using scp because i would need to save the file on disk first) |
| 11:01.35 | doubleukay | *save the data |
| 11:01.37 | Zap-W | i know A and B crash alot when transfering at high speeds |
| 11:01.40 | galois | doubleukay: grep > output.txt ? |
| 11:01.55 | Zap-W | have to reload the driver |
| 11:01.57 | galois | doubleukay: nm, sorry |
| 11:02.21 | relic | the 8139 C model is more common |
| 11:02.31 | Zap-W | but are enouth for connecting to a cable or adsl modem |
| 11:02.36 | bizkit | xmd: when on 2.6 go to /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/kernel/drivers/net and search for the name of the module |
| 11:02.49 | Fabio | Help |
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| 11:03.06 | xmd | bizkit |
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| 11:03.10 | xmd | ok brb rebooting |
| 11:03.22 | shining | how can I edit a debian package? |
| 11:03.41 | viv`d | im trying to install sid, but the installer says no kernel modules found, becuase theres a mismatch between the kernel used by the installer and the one available in the archive....did i download a corrup installer? |
| 11:04.42 | bizkit | ViViD: install stable/sarge and then upgrade? |
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| 11:05.09 | bizkit | i see no reason to install sid directly.. |
| 11:05.19 | nima | doubleukay, will echo "text" > file work? |
| 11:05.27 | ViViD | other than installing one os and upgrading it takes about twice as long as just installing it |
| 11:05.29 | peppet | shining, ar x package |
| 11:05.32 | doubleukay | nima, let's see.. |
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| 11:06.28 | vovka | how to setup SATA drives? |
| 11:06.29 | dimir | Vladimir! |
| 11:06.31 | vovka | and raid |
| 11:06.39 | vovka | on NTFS |
| 11:06.42 | bizkit | ViViD: if you don't have patience, you should not use sid. sid is not designed to be just installed and be run without complications, unstable packages are expected |
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| 11:06.46 | peppet | shining, that command will explode package in cwd |
| 11:06.50 | Dazgar2 | hi |
| 11:06.58 | concept10 | what does it mean when a process is a Zombie? is it dead, crashed? |
| 11:07.15 | relic | SCSI/SAS + 1394A/B > all craps |
| 11:07.26 | Dazgar2 | i ahve a filesystem on a file, how can i resize it with dd and resize2fs ?please |
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| 11:07.30 | nima | concept10, its a process thats come back from the dead |
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| 11:07.45 | xmd | bizkit : no.. it's not there |
| 11:07.46 | nima | i have no idea, someone tell us |
| 11:07.50 | Dazgar2 | let say, i would like to add 1Go to the actual size |
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| 11:08.16 | doubleukay | ahh, got the solution to my answer |
| 11:08.22 | doubleukay | echo testing123 | ssh us1 "cat - > /tmp/test" |
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| 11:08.41 | nima | cool |
| 11:08.46 | relic | ? |
| 11:08.48 | ViViD | bizkit, if sid isnt designed to be installed from a cd, why do they link sid isos..and rebuild them weekly |
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| 11:09.10 | alus | the debian stable package management interface is hard to use |
| 11:09.14 | Fabio | hi please: Do you speak portugues? |
| 11:09.29 | pngwn | !pt |
| 11:09.29 | dpkg | por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 11:09.39 | Fabio | thanks |
| 11:09.40 | relic | !gy |
| 11:09.41 | dpkg | gy is probably Guyana |
| 11:09.45 | relic | oh |
| 11:10.13 | ViViD | apparently the problem is that i used jigdo to assemble the iso, and sids online repository changes daily |
| 11:10.26 | bizkit | ViViD: i didn't say its not designed to be installed from cd, i said it is not designed or better to say complications are expected |
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| 11:10.47 | relic | is jigdo old nowadays? |
| 11:10.50 | bizkit | ViViD: then try another iso, perhaps you get one thats working.. |
| 11:11.13 | alus | how do I cause it to install x-window-system? it claims several dependencies are "unavailable" |
| 11:11.23 | shining | peppet: yes, thanks |
| 11:11.29 | bizkit | xmd: modprobe rtl8139 didn't work? |
| 11:11.37 | xmd | bizkit : no |
| 11:11.40 | relic | 8139too? |
| 11:11.43 | xmd | no |
| 11:12.02 | xmd | i searched with modprobe -l | grep 8139 |
| 11:12.05 | xmd | no output |
| 11:12.12 | basse | my /etc/udev/libgphoto2.rules looks right, and its executing the hotplug/usb/libgphoto2 script, but nothing seems to happen. I am lost :( |
| 11:12.13 | shining | it's more complicated than I expected :( |
| 11:12.13 | shining | and I don't even know perl (yet) |
| 11:12.17 | xmd | even searched with find.... noone.. |
| 11:12.17 | hammerabi | alus: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to #flood |
| 11:12.42 | alus | hammerabi: it's the default one when you install debian stable. I didn't ass or change any |
| 11:12.52 | alus | uh, s/ass/add |
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| 11:12.55 | hammerabi | alus: can you show us? |
| 11:13.00 | bizkit | xmd: perhaps it's not a module, what does dmesg say? |
| 11:13.15 | alus | well, if I knew how to get that list, I'd be happy to show you |
| 11:13.19 | xmd | bizkit : say about what.. what should i look for there |
| 11:13.23 | alus | but there's no console, I'm in a UI |
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| 11:13.29 | hammerabi | alus: "UI"? |
| 11:13.41 | alus | some curses aptitude UI |
| 11:13.41 | bizkit | xmd: for 8139 |
| 11:13.56 | hammerabi | alus: /j #flood |
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| 11:14.02 | hammerabi | alus: /exec -o cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:14.11 | alus | ? |
| 11:14.21 | relic | hehe |
| 11:14.22 | xmd | bizkit nothing |
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| 11:14.43 | xmd | bizkit : on 2.2 it loads.. 2.4 and 2.6 not |
| 11:14.49 | hammerabi | alus: which part of this is confusing? type that into your irc client. |
| 11:15.01 | alus | this irc client is running on a different box |
| 11:15.10 | hammerabi | ok then |
| 11:15.12 | relic | the 8139 woks in 2.6.x, I am sure |
| 11:15.18 | hammerabi | x-window-system is installable in sarge |
| 11:15.23 | hammerabi | so something is wrong with your sources.list |
| 11:15.24 | xmd | i am 10000% sure too |
| 11:15.27 | alus | what's sarge? |
| 11:15.29 | xmd | i made 10 install with it... |
| 11:15.31 | bizkit | xmd: well, when it's not in there it can't load ;-). sorry i never used the packaged kernels, can't help you out |
| 11:15.49 | hammerabi | sarge = stable |
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| 11:16.04 | nima | i really dont want xorg, why is apt-get dist-upgrade trying to get my to go to move to it? |
| 11:16.11 | alus | ok. I have the default apt list for sarge. |
| 11:16.14 | hammerabi | nima: why do you not want it? |
| 11:16.14 | ViViD | the iso of sid i downloaded a few hours ago has already been changed |
| 11:16.21 | hammerabi | clearly that is not the case |
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| 11:16.38 | alus | it asked me if I wanted to add any, and I said no |
| 11:16.42 | bizkit | xmd: is your card in lspci? |
| 11:16.44 | alus | then it brought me to this ui |
| 11:16.45 | nima | hammerabi: my video card and touchscreen aren't fully supported yet |
| 11:16.47 | ejofee | is there any repo for packages which still haven't reached unstable? |
| 11:16.57 | hammerabi | ejofee: no |
| 11:16.59 | nima | the video card might be |
| 11:17.04 | bizkit | ejofee: experimental |
| 11:17.08 | hammerabi | ejofee: tho incoming.debian.org and /msg dpkg experimental |
| 11:17.09 | nima | but it will take work |
| 11:17.11 | ejofee | to reprase it, where do i find gaim 2.0.0beta1? |
| 11:17.14 | xmd | bizkit : yes it is... |
| 11:17.16 | hammerabi | nima: that is pretty surprising |
| 11:17.20 | hammerabi | ejofee: www.gaim.org, presumably |
| 11:17.20 | ejofee | :) |
| 11:17.25 | ejofee | s/reprase/rephrase |
| 11:17.27 | bizkit | ejofee: deb http://ftp.freenet.de/pub/ftp.debian.org/debian/ experimental main non-free contrib |
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| 11:17.47 | ejofee | s/hrase/hrase\// :) |
| 11:18.02 | ejofee | bizkit, hammerabi: thank you |
| 11:18.27 | ejofee | hammerabi: gaim.sourceforge.net doesn't have (and never had) a debian package |
| 11:18.41 | nima | if you can find xorg drivers for a gunze serial touchscreen, i will be eternally greatfull |
| 11:18.48 | GregorR-L | ejofee: (In cheesy kung-foo bad dubbing): Your regex is weak! s/$/\// |
| 11:18.53 | hammerabi | ejofee: right, but it's unlikely random betas of things will be in Debian, either, so you'll probably need the source |
| 11:19.20 | nima | hammerabi, ^^^ |
| 11:19.20 | ejofee | GregorR-L: right :) |
| 11:19.30 | GregorR-L | Heh :) |
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| 11:20.23 | hammerabi | alus: deb http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/ stable main |
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| 11:20.36 | hammerabi | hammerabi: then update and try installing it again |
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| 11:22.32 | alus | I get 404s when I update |
| 11:22.44 | alus | the errors point at ftp.debian.org |
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| 11:23.09 | nima | is there any way to not upgrade to xorg? |
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| 11:23.16 | fireba11 | i just merged from uw-imap with mbox format to courier with maildir .. now im wondering why all folders show up as subfolders of the inbox .. is that normal, and is there a way to NOT have that ? |
| 11:23.21 | blondie | alus: update what? |
| 11:23.28 | blondie | nima: yes, use sarge |
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| 11:23.44 | kapil | alus: it should be http://ftp.debian.org/debian (leave out the "pub/") |
| 11:23.45 | nima | sarge me no likey |
| 11:23.57 | alus | i.e.: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/pub/debian/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz |
| 11:24.09 | nima | eventually, that, too will have xorg, blondie |
| 11:24.16 | nima | there is no escape!!! |
| 11:24.17 | blondie | nima: no it won't |
| 11:24.19 | kapil | nima: if your drivers in sarge are fine then you can "hold" the xserver-xfree86. |
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| 11:24.31 | blondie | nima: stable will, but sarge will never |
| 11:24.33 | hammerabi | alus: get rid of pub |
| 11:25.00 | nima | thats what i meant :-) |
| 11:25.34 | nima | kapil, it used to let me |
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| 11:25.54 | kapil | nima: so what happened? |
| 11:26.04 | blondie | what's wrong with xorg? it's the original x isn't it? |
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| 11:26.21 | cyzie | where in iptables stored its rules when debian boot up ? |
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| 11:27.01 | hammerabi | cyzie: /usr/share/doc/iptables/README.Debian.gz |
| 11:27.03 | nima | now, it just lists xserver-xorg in extra packages that will be installed |
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| 11:28.36 | alus | hammerabi: working now. |
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| 11:29.10 | __filip_ | Yesterday i get an error massage that say that my windowchooser(dont sure if it is called so because i get it in swedish!) has exit. Know i cant switch between window 1 and 2, 2 and ,3 and like that. What is it i should do to get it work? |
| 11:29.39 | kapil | nima: it is possible that you have upgraded to the etch version of xserver-xfree86 which is just |
| 11:29.45 | nima | ha-ha i figured out how to get around it, but at a cost. i cant use dist-upgrade, only normal upgrade |
| 11:30.04 | hammerabi | nima: wtf |
| 11:30.11 | kapil | nima: (cont.) which is just a dummy package. |
| 11:30.11 | nima | yeah, i know |
| 11:30.13 | hammerabi | put xserver-xorg on hold until your dodgy hardware gets new drivers |
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| 11:30.27 | nima | how? |
| 11:30.46 | hammerabi | !tell nima about hold |
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| 11:31.34 | nima | YAY!!!!! |
| 11:31.36 | nima | THANKS |
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| 11:33.36 | cyzie | thanks hammerabi |
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| 11:33.46 | DevilChaos | hi i have a question why is it that when i mount a partition it almost always contains the lost and found folder?# |
| 11:33.59 | hammerabi | because it exists on disk |
| 11:34.05 | hammerabi | it's of no trouble unless it has stuff in it |
| 11:34.10 | __filip_ | nobody know if there is something to do so i can switch between the diffrent windows? |
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| 11:34.36 | hammerabi | sure they do |
| 11:34.39 | hammerabi | run metacity |
| 11:34.40 | blondie | start the WM again |
| 11:34.49 | dimir | DevilChaos: it's a feature of the filesystem, don't worry. |
| 11:34.52 | kapil | DevilChaos: it is created by mke2fs. |
| 11:35.11 | teufel | I just installed a new network device in my linux machine... Is there a way to see if debian recognizes it and it's installed correctly? |
| 11:35.16 | SimonRaven | man mklost+found |
| 11:35.41 | DevilChaos | i c |
| 11:35.53 | dimir | teufel: lspci |
| 11:35.55 | hammerabi | teufel: /var/log/dmesg |
| 11:36.04 | DevilChaos | ive done what i needed to do without using webmin im quite pleased |
| 11:36.07 | kapil | teufel: use 'dmesg | grep eth' if it is an ethernet device |
| 11:36.07 | hammerabi | if it's pci with an actual driver, there's nothing to do but give it an ip in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:36.17 | DevilChaos | used fdisk |
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| 11:36.26 | DevilChaos | easier than i thought |
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| 11:37.05 | dimir | DevilChaos: good. I really hope one day you will remember Webmin only as a nightmare. |
| 11:37.10 | DevilChaos | windows is crap only sees half the drive where debian sees it all does that on both drives |
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| 11:37.31 | teufel | ok, so if it is detecting the new network interface |
| 11:37.54 | teufel | if I want to broadcast internet out to other machines from it, do I just make a eth1 option in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 11:37.56 | dimir | Of course. However, there are ext3 drivers for windose. |
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| 11:37.59 | yonkeltron | what is the minimum set of system requirements needed for the debian netinst cd? |
| 11:38.29 | hammerabi | yonkeltron: 32MB of ram, 100MB of disk |
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| 11:38.45 | DevilChaos | dimir its not case of that i had it formated win fat32 lba |
| 11:38.50 | ice_1963 | all i have on my box is linux :0) |
| 11:38.56 | yonkeltron | hammerabi: what about chip speed? |
| 11:38.57 | smiler1987 | i was wondering if somone can help i am looking at buying a laptop to run debian any ideas? |
| 11:39.07 | hammerabi | yonkeltron: 486 |
| 11:39.14 | DevilChaos | im useing ata riser card |
| 11:39.14 | yonkeltron | hammerabi: nice. thanx |
| 11:39.19 | hammerabi | smiler1987: ibm ones tend to work well |
| 11:39.38 | harshal | hammerabi: how about dell? |
| 11:39.41 | nkuttler | smiler1987: ibm, yes, google the specs of the model before buying |
| 11:39.42 | hammerabi | haha |
| 11:40.02 | kapil | smiler1987: echo hammerabi. watch out for "sleep" mode though. that got me for a week! |
| 11:40.35 | smiler1987 | any model numbers? |
| 11:40.36 | hammerabi | harshal: http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59//mjg |
| 11:40.39 | kapil | smiler1987: have a look at "www.thinkwiki.org". has many tips for debian on thinkpad. |
| 11:40.54 | hammerabi | smiler1987: at least the X and T series work great |
| 11:41.00 | smiler1987 | kapil: ill check it out thanks |
| 11:41.06 | hammerabi | harshal: er, drop the last 4 chars and look for dell |
| 11:41.27 | hammerabi | hm, less stuff than I thought |
| 11:41.35 | hammerabi | anyway, dells tend to have broke bios and acpi |
| 11:41.56 | harshal | hammerabi: getting 404 for that url |
| 11:42.07 | smiler1987 | hammerabi: so is dell better gor this? |
| 11:42.10 | smiler1987 | *for |
| 11:42.19 | hammerabi | smiler1987: better for what? paperweights? |
| 11:42.40 | smiler1987 | lol for running as a linux machine |
| 11:42.40 | nima | harshal, http://www.livejournal.com/users/mjg59/ |
| 11:42.41 | DevilChaos | why does k3b not in etch? |
| 11:42.47 | DevilChaos | is sorry |
| 11:42.51 | DevilChaos | damn typos |
| 11:42.53 | hammerabi | DevilChaos: lots of kde stuff is not in etch atm |
| 11:43.08 | DevilChaos | ah just cos its testing eh? |
| 11:43.11 | hammerabi | smiler1987: no, dell seem to have a history of broken hardware that just happens to work under windows |
| 11:43.15 | teufel | I have two networking devices in my debian comp. I'm getting internet obviously, but I want to send it out to other computers on the other device. What do I need to do? I have a iface eth1 inet static line in my /etc/network/interfaces |
| 11:43.25 | hammerabi | smiler1987: that said, most seem to work after someone spends time working around it |
| 11:43.38 | hammerabi | smiler1987: wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam is probably useful |
| 11:43.40 | DevilChaos | i hate xcdroast |
| 11:43.45 | hammerabi | teufel: be more specific |
| 11:43.53 | hammerabi | teufel: particularily about whether you're wanting NAT or not |
| 11:44.01 | Paivakil | DevilChaos: sid has k3b - a kde transition is going on |
| 11:44.04 | kapil | teufel: you need to configure the interface you want to use as "default route". |
| 11:44.05 | teufel | hammerabi: I guess I don't know what NAT is really... |
| 11:44.06 | ice_1963 | but i love gnomebaker |
| 11:44.09 | nima | DevilChaos, gnomebaker? :-) |
| 11:44.18 | hammerabi | teufel: then explain your situation in more detail |
| 11:44.22 | smiler1987 | ok thanks |
| 11:44.24 | teufel | kapil: Do you have a link where I could read up about that? |
| 11:44.26 | hammerabi | teufel: e.g. how many IP addresses your ISP gace you |
| 11:44.29 | DevilChaos | not tried that one yet |
| 11:44.32 | DevilChaos | ty |
| 11:44.33 | smiler1987 | ill start looking at the IBM''s |
| 11:44.55 | teufel | hammerabi: I have one from my isp. I have it directally into my linux comp. I want to have another network cord out of the same copm to a wireless router for the rest of the house |
| 11:45.01 | nima | teufel, you want to use your computer as a bridge? |
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| 11:45.05 | hammerabi | teufel: so you do want NAT |
| 11:45.10 | hammerabi | teufel: install ipmasq on the machine |
| 11:45.17 | teufel | hammerabi: ok |
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| 11:45.33 | teufel | nima: well yeah, and a firewall |
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| 11:47.00 | nima | teufel, if you dont plan on using the computer normally, i've heard good things about ipcop |
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| 11:47.32 | teufel | nima I want to still use the comp too, I'm just curious on using a linux comp as a firewall too |
| 11:47.33 | kapil | teufel: you want to look at the howto's in the networking section at www.tldp.org. |
| 11:47.46 | teufel | kapil: thanks, I'll look into it |
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| 11:47.59 | DevilChaos | bbl :) |
| 11:48.20 | sebyte | hi all. about to roll my own 2.6.14 kernel with make-kpkg. should i use gcc-3.3 or gcc-4.0? anyone? |
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| 11:48.50 | Joenkemo | hello again |
| 11:49.07 | hammerabi | sebyte: the one in sid doesn't work? |
| 11:49.10 | teufel | hammerabi: I installed ipmasq and started it... no changes. |
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| 11:49.24 | hammerabi | teufel: what are you expecting to change? |
| 11:49.31 | sebyte | hammerabi: i haven't tried yet. just thought i'd ask first... |
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| 11:49.42 | teufel | hammerabi: well I was expecting the other computers to get internet |
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| 11:49.56 | Joenkemo | i have a problem with my PS/2 mouse and i put it in my /dev/gpm and now my X-server wont startup |
| 11:50.00 | hammerabi | teufel: "get internet" is a prett vague description |
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| 11:50.16 | hammerabi | teufel: amongst other things, they need to be told to use your computer as their router |
| 11:50.18 | nima | teufel, theres probably a config file you have to wrk on |
| 11:50.19 | jm_ | Joenkemo: configure things properly and it will |
| 11:50.40 | Joenkemo | no i putted it in /dev/psaux and /dev/input/mouse too |
| 11:50.45 | Joenkemo | and it doesn't work eighter |
| 11:50.47 | jm_ | are you using 2.6 kernel? |
| 11:50.56 | Joenkemo | yes |
| 11:50.59 | teufel | hammerabi: most of the other computers are windows machines.... I have a wireless router connected to the linux comp that isn't getting signal either I guess |
| 11:51.01 | jm_ | it's /dev/input/mice |
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| 11:51.10 | sebyte | hammerabi: you know.... known issues, that sort of thing |
| 11:51.13 | Joenkemo | well i ment that |
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| 11:51.41 | teufel | hammerabi: Do I need to even have another eth option in /etc/network/interfaces to do what I want to do? |
| 11:51.54 | hammerabi | teufel: this is not at all about "signal" |
| 11:51.56 | jm_ | that will work just fine as long as kernel has support for your mouse type, /proc/bus/input/* lists details |
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| 11:52.09 | hammerabi | teufel: you need to configure the other computers to use it as their gateway |
| 11:52.09 | teufel | hammerabi: well what is it called then? connectivity? |
| 11:52.14 | hammerabi | no |
| 11:52.20 | hammerabi | you're missing the point |
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| 11:52.22 | Joenkemo | ? what do i have to typ in console? (i'm new whit linux) |
| 11:52.33 | jm_ | cat /proc/bus/input/handlers |
| 11:52.48 | Joenkemo | cat /proc/bus/input/handlers in console |
| 11:52.51 | teufel | hammerabi: ahhh so whatever I designated as the ip in eth1, use that as the default gateway? |
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| 11:53.11 | jm_ | and you need to ensure appropriate hardware support module is loaded too |
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| 11:53.12 | shining | I don't find in the linux-image deb package where it does this : Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done |
| 11:53.32 | Joenkemo | gonna try it now |
| 11:53.34 | jm_ | shining: man kernel-img.conf |
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| 11:53.50 | shining | I found the step just before when it removes the symlink in the postrm file |
| 11:53.53 | mithro | how do I use -dbg library? |
| 11:54.02 | Fujoor | hello people, which version of debian is it that is compatible with xserver-xorg instead of xfree86? |
| 11:54.30 | valdyn | Fujoor: all > woody |
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| 11:54.45 | xmd | what was the command to change ext2 in ext3 ? |
| 11:54.48 | Fujoor | valdyn: so its woody? or all of them? |
| 11:54.49 | smiler1987 | anyone tried an ibm tablet notebook with debian? |
| 11:55.01 | valdyn | Fujoor: all newer than woody |
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| 11:55.24 | Fujoor | aha, are these available at debian.org? i only seem to find sarge |
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| 11:56.17 | Fujoor | valdyn: what is the official download site for woody? |
| 11:56.38 | nima | sarge, etch, and sid should do xorg |
| 11:56.43 | hammerabi | woody does not have x.org |
| 11:56.47 | hammerabi | sarge does not have x.org |
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| 11:57.02 | Fujoor | hmm :S |
| 11:57.04 | Fujoor | so what does? |
| 11:57.06 | nima | so just etch and sid |
| 11:57.08 | hammerabi | etch and sid |
| 11:57.13 | Fujoor | ah |
| 11:57.13 | hammerabi | neither of which are stable or released |
| 11:57.23 | Fujoor | damn |
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| 11:57.24 | hammerabi | why do you care what X server it uses? |
| 11:57.37 | nima | you can use etch |
| 11:57.40 | Fujoor | i cant get the right graphic settings with xfree86 |
| 11:57.45 | Fujoor | so i can start a gui |
| 11:57.46 | ice_1963 | testing and sid has xserver-xorg |
| 11:57.51 | hammerabi | Fujoor: how would x.org fix that? |
| 11:57.54 | Fujoor | which i easily can with xorg |
| 11:58.06 | hammerabi | nima: really? even with things like KDE being (apparently) uninstallable? |
| 11:58.33 | Fujoor | hammerabi: not sure if its thanks to xorg, but the ubuntu uses xorg, and even though a do a server install i never have to fipple with my gfx settings |
| 11:58.41 | Fujoor | the ubuntu - the :) |
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| 11:59.04 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 11:59.10 | nima | hammerabi, well when you said not released, he seemed to get the imression that you ment unavailible to the public |
| 11:59.11 | hammerabi | figuring out what was actually going on would be a better first step than installing a development version of Debian |
| 11:59.23 | valdyn | !get xorg |
| 11:59.24 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
| 11:59.36 | valdyn | !xorg sarge |
| 11:59.36 | dpkg | hmm... xorg sarge is now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 11:59.44 | shining | jm_: if I see the "done", it means the update-grub script went fine, right ? |
| 11:59.49 | hammerabi | good choice |
| 11:59.54 | shining | what is launched after that ? |
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| 12:00.11 | Fujoor | i dont know why its so freakin hard to get a working gui with xserver-xfree86, people have been using it for ages, howcome im the only one who cant get it to work |
| 12:00.20 | shining | http://rafb.net/paste/results/Aw00cz67.html |
| 12:00.24 | shining | it's stuck there |
| 12:00.46 | Dazgar2 | hi |
| 12:00.46 | jm_ | shining: yeah - there's no need to run anything else |
| 12:00.48 | shining | I think it did update-grub fine, but then what? |
| 12:00.48 | ice_1963 | :0) |
| 12:00.54 | Dazgar2 | i have a diskimage (250Mo) and i would like ti enlarge it to 1Go |
| 12:01.11 | valdyn | Fujoor: because you arent even bothering to read the logfile? |
| 12:01.11 | Dazgar2 | how can i do this please |
| 12:01.11 | shining | why doesn't apt-get terminate |
| 12:01.11 | Dazgar2 | the starting size (250Mo) may change |
| 12:01.11 | Fujoor | valdyn: because it makes no sence to me |
| 12:01.11 | nima | Fujoor, do you know what is not working with it? |
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| 12:01.26 | valdyn | Fujoor: its mostly plain english, where it matters |
| 12:01.47 | hammerabi | Dazgar2: too vague |
| 12:01.50 | Fujoor | ok ill check the log and tell you what i dont understand, let me just restart |
| 12:01.55 | hammerabi | Dazgar2: include details like where where it is, and what filesystem it is |
| 12:02.17 | ice_1963 | well |
| 12:02.26 | jm_ | can't connect to rafb.net right now |
| 12:02.34 | valdyn | !debug X |
| 12:02.36 | goccia | Dazgar2: dump your image in a 1G empty partition |
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| 12:02.43 | shining | jm_: erf |
| 12:02.51 | shining | jm_: pastebin? |
| 12:02.54 | Dazgar2 | hammerabi: it's a ext3 fs, i would like to create a script to permit me to make those dismage grow |
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| 12:03.16 | Dazgar2 | their original sizes may be different |
| 12:03.21 | Dazgar2 | let say |
| 12:03.24 | hammerabi | Dazgar2: look at parted |
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| 12:03.36 | hammerabi | it looks sufficiently scriptable |
| 12:03.37 | Dazgar2 | i have /home/dazgard/image |
| 12:03.46 | shining | http://pastebin.com/481398 |
| 12:03.59 | Dazgar2 | it is a 150Mo diskimage, and i would like it to be 1Go |
| 12:04.10 | hammerabi | Dazgar2: we're not going to write the script for you, but parted will resize it for you |
| 12:04.11 | goccia | Dazgar2: it does'n matter the fs : if you dump any image in a bigger empty partition will be ok |
| 12:04.17 | valdyn | dpkg, debug X is "grep '(EE)' /var/log/XFree86.0.log" or "grep '(EE)' /var/log/Xorg.0.log" |
| 12:04.17 | dpkg | valdyn: okay |
| 12:04.18 | jm_ | shining: did you try stracing it? |
| 12:04.31 | shining | hmm no |
| 12:04.38 | alus | I installed sawfish. how do I select it as my default window manager? |
| 12:04.46 | shining | lol |
| 12:04.47 | hammerabi | alus: depends what you mean |
| 12:04.50 | Dazgar2 | hammerabi: ok, what about dd and resize2fs ? |
| 12:04.53 | shining | jm_: thats funny :) |
| 12:04.53 | teufel | I just installed a new ethernet network card in my debian comp, how can I set the eth1 in /etc/network/interfaces to the new device? |
| 12:05.02 | Dazgar2 | is it ok, or parted is really better ? |
| 12:05.03 | shining | loop on that : gettimeofday({1135771610, 908655}, NULL) = 0 |
| 12:05.15 | hammerabi | Dazgar2: use whatever you want |
| 12:05.25 | hammerabi | parted is what basically everyone else uses, tho |
| 12:05.34 | hammerabi | teufel: add a new block for it |
| 12:05.38 | shining | ha no |
| 12:05.39 | Dazgar2 | hammerabi: thanks |
| 12:05.43 | shining | sorry |
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| 12:05.54 | smiler1987 | which is better desktop or laptop this will b my first time using debian |
| 12:06.01 | blondie | hammerabi: sane people don't resize partitions |
| 12:06.05 | valdyn | !better |
| 12:06.05 | dpkg | i heard better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
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| 12:06.17 | teufel | hammerabi: could you explain a littmore more about that? |
| 12:06.40 | hammerabi | teufel: I don't know what is confusing you; all network interfaces are just configured by adding lines to /etc/network/interfaces; it should have several already |
| 12:06.53 | valdyn | !faqsmite teufel |
| 12:06.53 | dpkg | teufel: GO READ THE FAQ!! It's at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ -- greycat and others have SLAVED for HOURS to make a FAQ that answers your question and you don't even bother to read it! http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
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| 12:07.57 | shining | thats the correct loop : http://pastebin.com/481403 |
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| 12:08.01 | teufel | hammerabi: I know about /etc/network/interfaces ... I set up a new option for the new device, but it's not using it when I type dmesg | grep eth |
| 12:08.08 | aimtrainer | hi! I have no sound on the right side thought balance settings are ok in xmms as well as in kmix. And I have this problem with two different soundblaster lives |
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| 12:08.41 | bizkit | speaker not ok? :p |
| 12:08.46 | sebyte | whoops. i just typed `sudo depmod -v' instead of `sudo depmod -V' to check the version. all the files in /lib/modules/<version> now have new modification times. have i seriously screwed up my running kernel? can i safely reboot? |
| 12:08.57 | hammerabi | teufel: the output of dmesg is entirely unrelated to /etc/network/interfaces |
| 12:09.07 | mithro | anyone know how to force ldd to use the /usr/lib/debug libraries before /usr/lib? |
| 12:09.10 | teufel | valdyn: thanks for the link |
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| 12:09.13 | hammerabi | aimtrainer: and the speakers work fine? |
| 12:09.25 | hammerabi | mithro: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/debug/ foo |
| 12:09.28 | teufel | hammerabi: how so... it shows me that eth0 is using device # 1 |
| 12:09.38 | teufel | hammerabi: and eth1 is using... not what I want it to |
| 12:09.42 | hammerabi | teufel: what does it really say? |
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| 12:10.25 | alus | hammerabi: I mean, instead of that teal menu thing and the placement-grid widget, I'd like a real right-click menu and desktop icons when I start x |
| 12:10.32 | teufel | eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at ...... (the right device) eth1: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at..... |
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| 12:10.46 | Joenkemo | hello again |
| 12:10.55 | aimtrainer | hammerabi yea |
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| 12:11.06 | aimtrainer | also tried other speaker forgot to mention that |
| 12:11.07 | shining | that should be more intersting : http://pastebin.com/481406 |
| 12:11.11 | hammerabi | alus: depends how you're starting X |
| 12:11.17 | alus | hammerabi: startx |
| 12:11.17 | teufel | hammerabi: ^^ |
| 12:11.23 | shining | the few things that happen before the loop |
| 12:11.28 | hammerabi | teufel: what does that have to do with network setup tho? |
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| 12:11.32 | mithro | hammerabi: i tried that, it still doesn't seem to work :/ |
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| 12:11.38 | Joenkemo | i have a question, in cat /proc/bus/input/handlers is it normal that my my mouse is "N=number1 Name=mousedef Minor=32 |
| 12:11.38 | hammerabi | alus: echo exec sawfish > ~/.xsession |
| 12:11.44 | teufel | hammerabi: Isn't that telling me what eth is using what device? |
| 12:11.46 | hammerabi | mithro: what isn't working? |
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| 12:11.53 | alus | I thought ehre was a little config util for that |
| 12:11.55 | jm_ | Joenkemo: yes |
| 12:11.59 | Joenkemo | o |
| 12:12.05 | Joenkemo | but my mouse still doesn't work? |
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| 12:12.09 | mithro | hammerabi: it still using the non-debug versions |
| 12:12.11 | hammerabi | teufel: your concern is that eth0 is not eth0 anymore? |
| 12:12.15 | Joenkemo | and when i run windows it does work?? |
| 12:12.16 | jm_ | do you have psmosue support in your kernel? |
| 12:12.18 | hammerabi | mithro: how do you know? |
| 12:12.25 | Joenkemo | i don't know |
| 12:12.28 | Joenkemo | how can i check |
| 12:12.40 | jm_ | grep 10 /proc/devices |
| 12:12.42 | jm_ | lsmod |
| 12:12.43 | jm_ | ... |
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| 12:12.47 | teufel | hammerabi: no... my concern is that the new eth --- eth1 that I set up in /etc/network/interfaces is not using the right network device |
| 12:12.59 | Joenkemo | in console grep 10 /proc/devices |
| 12:13.04 | Joenkemo | ? |
| 12:13.05 | hammerabi | ok, nevermind, this is too confusing |
| 12:13.40 | alus | hammerabi: ok I did that, and it still starts up and gives me a mouse cursor only with no right or left click menus |
| 12:13.45 | Joenkemo | in console grep 10 /proc/devices?? |
| 12:13.46 | mithro | hammerabi: because gdb isn't reporting any debuging symbols |
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| 12:14.49 | hammerabi | mithro: gdb is configured seperately |
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| 12:14.55 | hammerabi | alus: yes, you're just running sawfish |
| 12:15.05 | hammerabi | alus: did you mean to ask "how do I run GNOME with sawfish?" |
| 12:15.24 | HymnToLife | anyone know a place to download Woody ISOs ? |
| 12:15.25 | alus | not gnome. just a simple right-click menu so I can star a terminal |
| 12:15.27 | mithro | hammerabi: how do i get gdb to use the debug version of the libraries? |
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| 12:15.47 | hammerabi | mithro: don't remember |
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| 12:16.14 | Joenkemo | jm_ : what do i have to type in console????????????? |
| 12:16.18 | teufel | how do you get your kernal version again? |
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| 12:16.25 | hammerabi | mithro: also depends on if it's detached debug symbols or entire debug libs |
| 12:16.30 | valdyn | !kernal |
| 12:16.30 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 12:16.33 | shining | jm_: hmm no, finally strace doesnt show anything |
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| 12:16.44 | Joenkemo | jm_ : what do i have to type in console????????????? |
| 12:16.48 | mithro | hammerabi: any idea where i could find information about doing it? |
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| 12:16.52 | dimir | ?!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?!??!?!???!?!?!!/ |
| 12:16.58 | Eulex | !!! |
| 12:16.58 | dpkg | No sĂłc el teu puto indicador de csh |
| 12:16.58 | jm_ | Joenkemo: i have already told you |
| 12:17.02 | valdyn | !tell Joenkemo -about punctuation |
| 12:17.11 | dimir | teufel: uname -r |
| 12:17.15 | sifi | how can I execute a command before I use case ONLY if an argument is specified: http://rafb.net/paste/results/gZr8PL84.html |
| 12:17.36 | Joenkemo | jm_ grep 10 /proc/devices in console? |
| 12:17.43 | shining | jm_: there is nothing after "Updating /boot/grub/menu.lst ... done" in the strace |
| 12:17.49 | teufel | dimir: thanks |
| 12:17.54 | dimir | teufel: np |
| 12:18.02 | Joenkemo | jm_: grep 10 /proc/devices in console? |
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| 12:18.27 | hammerabi | sifi: [ ! -z $1 ] or so |
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| 12:20.11 | sifi | hammerabi, nice =), thx |
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| 12:20.48 | Joenkemo | jm_: grep 10 /proc/devices in console? |
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| 12:20.57 | _beefcake | heya people |
| 12:20.59 | _beefcake | how to crontab somehting every second hour? |
| 12:21.33 | Omnix | _beefcake: man 5 crontab |
| 12:21.43 | jm_ | shining: you would need to use strace -f |
| 12:21.57 | Joenkemo | jm_: grep 10 /proc/devices in console? |
| 12:22.09 | jm_ | Joenkemo: can you please stop with the nonsense? |
| 12:22.42 | _beefcake | omnix that doenst clearly state how to do it every 2nd hour |
| 12:22.43 | Joenkemo | but what do i have to typ in console then? tell me pls |
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| 12:23.02 | jm_ | for fucks sake, I already gave you two commands to run |
| 12:23.11 | Omnix | _beefcake: it does here. And there are lots of other examples that can help you |
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| 12:23.41 | Joenkemo | jm_: grep 10 /proc/devices and lsmod 10 /proc/devics in console? |
| 12:23.43 | _beefcake | * 0-23/2 * * * |
| 12:23.43 | _beefcake | ? |
| 12:23.47 | Joenkemo | gonna try now |
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| 12:24.06 | jm_ | Joenkemo: I said just "lsmod", there was nothing else mentioned together with it |
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| 12:24.44 | Omnix | _beefcake: there's a slightly more neat way to write it, also documented in that file just after that example. |
| 12:25.14 | _beefcake | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:25.16 | _beefcake | shwos that here |
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| 12:25.19 | _beefcake | after that prior example |
| 12:25.21 | _beefcake | shows* |
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| 12:25.38 | Omnix | !tell _beefcake about enter |
| 12:26.08 | kalango_ | oooi |
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| 12:26.25 | Omnix | _beefcake: there is an example in the man file I'm looking at, and I'm sure it's been there for a long time. You need to learn to read the information, not just look for a specific example for your case |
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| 12:33.21 | dpkg | blootbot: (a severely modified infobot for IRC), section net, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 243 kB, Installed size: 857 kB |
| 12:34.22 | cat | !info xorg sid |
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| 12:35.53 | Gigs | cat: it's just called x11-common |
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| 12:36.04 | Gigs | even from sid |
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| 12:36.28 | Gigs | and xserver-xorg for the server |
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| 12:40.35 | Shadowcat | cat: do us all a favor |
| 12:40.37 | Shadowcat | MSG THE BOT |
| 12:41.24 | nkuttler | yeah, he was really disturbing all the conversations... |
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| 12:42.19 | Shadowcat | nkuttler: he was desturbing the silence |
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| 12:42.22 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 12:42.29 | Shadowcat | disturbing even |
| 12:43.25 | cahoot | Shadowcat: you sure outdid him |
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| 12:44.13 | goccia | anymore fares ? |
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| 12:49.16 | teufel | ok, I read through the guide to set up a proxy server. I have the default gateway on my other machine set to the address, but it tells me a network cable is unplugged... my main fear is taht the network card I just installed isn't working for some reason |
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| 12:51.00 | Czifi | Hello |
| 12:51.13 | vasundhar | Hello Czifi |
| 12:51.14 | nima | hello, Czifi |
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| 12:56.05 | Speckrolle | hi all, i have a problem regarding nis |
| 12:56.15 | Speckrolle | where is the best place to ask? |
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| 12:56.59 | teufel | how can I find the MAC address of network devices installed in my computer? |
| 12:57.13 | Guerin | teufel: ifconfig |
| 12:57.29 | stew | teufel: "ifconfig -a" or "ip addr" |
| 12:58.00 | teufel | Guerin: er... yeah. is there another way? I know that shows what the connections are using. I want to know if it's the right one, would I have to look at the card? |
| 12:59.12 | Guerin | teufel: huh? |
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| 12:59.32 | Speckrolle | when I try to set up NIS the way some tutorials are describing it, I get an error when making /var/yp : "no targets, no makefile, error runnung makefile, please try by hand" |
| 12:59.38 | [vinyl] | hi there. i am currently migrating my apache(1.3) server to apache2 (all debian sarge packages). on apache1 IMP (horde) is running without problems. but on apache2 imp throws errors indicating missing support for imap in php (while everything is running great on apache1). am i missing anything obvious? |
| 12:59.53 | Speckrolle | the problem is what I think that the makefile is missing, any ideas? |
| 13:00.11 | cahoot | teufel: the combined output of lspci and ifconfig might help? |
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| 13:01.08 | teufel | cahoot: lspci doesn't give MAC address though |
| 13:01.30 | stew | teufel: you can look up what brand a nic is by the first 3 octets of the mac address |
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| 13:01.37 | stew | teufel: http://coffer.com/mac_find/ |
| 13:02.03 | teufel | ah cool thanks |
| 13:02.53 | stew | [vinyl]: see if you have "extension=imap.so" in /etc/php/apache2/php.ini |
| 13:04.01 | [vinyl] | stew: that was the problem. just stumbled over it before you mentioned it. thanks ;) |
| 13:04.24 | Speckrolle | aölksdjf |
| 13:04.25 | Speckrolle | asdf |
| 13:04.25 | Speckrolle | a |
| 13:04.25 | Speckrolle | sdf |
| 13:04.25 | Speckrolle | as |
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| 13:05.25 | teufel | I don't understand what I'm doing wrong... I'm using this guide http://www.aboutdebian.com/firewall.htm to set up a proxy server. I did everything the guide says, but my windows machine keeps saying "network cable unpluged" even though both machines have the light on that it's connected in the back |
| 13:05.35 | nima | ahh, silence |
| 13:05.51 | nima | oops, i was scrolled up |
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| 13:06.21 | nima | i thought the channel had actually gone quiet for a couple minutes |
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| 13:11.14 | nima | how can i check how much of my drive is free? |
| 13:11.59 | dimir | df -h |
| 13:12.28 | nima | thanks! |
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| 13:13.45 | dimir | np |
| 13:14.07 | nima | wow, i gave myself way too much swap space |
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| 13:14.10 | smiler1987 | i asked earlier any one got some good ideas on a laptop for debian i dont wanna pay to much Ł700 |
| 13:14.34 | nima | i dont think you can do an ibm then |
| 13:14.49 | nima | im not sure how that converts to dollars |
| 13:15.08 | smiler1987 | bout errrr Ł1200 |
| 13:15.21 | smiler1987 | ibm the best? |
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| 13:15.38 | w|edge | I lovels afacli on debian :D |
| 13:15.44 | AciD | how come the official debian version of openoffice.org have different icons (some I really don't like) instead of the ones provided in the aliened rpms downloadable on OOo website ? |
| 13:15.52 | AciD | is there a way to change that ? |
| 13:16.06 | w|edge | Stat:OK!, Task: 100, Func:R5R Ctr: 0, State:RUN 94.2% |
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| 13:16.56 | nima | smiler1987, ibm is a bit expensive, but they are well worth it |
| 13:17.20 | smiler1987 | are they kinda install and go? |
| 13:17.43 | nima | should be, you might have to play with drivers for some of the stuff |
| 13:17.47 | nima | i dont have one |
| 13:17.53 | smiler1987 | ok |
| 13:17.59 | smiler1987 | i never used debian yet |
| 13:18.05 | AciD | smiler1987 > if you don't want any compatibility pbs, aim at laptop with linux already provided |
| 13:18.12 | smiler1987 | but would like to get a laptop going with it on |
| 13:18.47 | nima | someone i know has an ibm that he uses with debian, he seems very happy |
| 13:18.58 | smiler1987 | AciD: thanks but from what i can see no one in the UK sells with debin installed |
| 13:19.08 | nima | what are good providers for laptops with debian preinstalled? |
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| 13:19.22 | AciD | don't specifically search "with debian installed" |
| 13:19.30 | AciD | any linux distr |
| 13:19.33 | AciD | ib will do |
| 13:19.49 | AciD | as you are then sure the hardware is supported by the kernel |
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| 13:20.05 | smiler1987 | oh ok great idea thanks |
| 13:20.20 | sifi | AciD, links to ib? |
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| 13:20.32 | smiler1987 | whats the main part im looking for proccessor or ram |
| 13:20.46 | AciD | sifi > any linux distr + ib will do = any linux distrib will do |
| 13:20.48 | AciD | :\ |
| 13:20.50 | sifi | hehe |
| 13:20.52 | sifi | saw that |
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| 13:21.18 | nima | http://www.emperorlinux.com/ |
| 13:21.31 | sifi | AciD, but do you know any good brand for linux desktops |
| 13:21.59 | takatumi | sifi: tried debian? |
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| 13:22.21 | AciD | sifi > yep |
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| 13:22.29 | AciD | but I bought mine in France.. |
| 13:22.36 | AciD | not sure it'd help you |
| 13:22.41 | Pathfinder | anybody knowing, how to use QOS(Traffic Control) in Linux ? |
| 13:22.46 | sifi | takatumi, I'm on a stationary comp. just tried it on a friends laptop, problems with the graphiccard there =) |
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| 13:23.09 | takatumi | sifi: that's common but fixable. |
| 13:23.22 | Shadur | Pathfinder: www.lartc.org |
| 13:23.24 | sifi | takatumi, of course |
| 13:23.34 | Pathfinder | not available shadur :-) |
| 13:23.38 | Pathfinder | site down |
| 13:24.23 | nima | 'night everyone |
| 13:25.10 | smiler1987 | thanks guys. lots of help |
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| 13:26.07 | yongshunz | ls |
| 13:26.11 | stew | Pathfinder: the wondershaper package is a good starting point |
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| 13:27.33 | Pathfinder | dont want to "shape" |
| 13:28.01 | jm_ | then read Advanced Routing Howto |
| 13:28.40 | Pathfinder | I read a lot of howtos --- but it seems, that it dont work --- dont get any errors |
| 13:28.44 | Pathfinder | thats the problem |
| 13:28.51 | Pathfinder | need somebody with experience |
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| 13:29.49 | stew | Pathfinder: what are you trying to do? |
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| 13:30.34 | kavorka | Pathfinder: ask on the lartc mailing list |
| 13:30.48 | Pathfinder | lartc is completly down for me |
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| 13:31.24 | kavorka | Pathfinder: ml archives are working here |
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| 13:31.45 | Boxedman | Hello folks |
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| 13:32.07 | Boxedman | Any chance I might get oracle to run on a pure 64 bit system? |
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| 13:32.54 | beginer | Any idea what is causing the "read_socket_data: recv failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer" error in samba logs? |
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| 13:34.45 | AndySantos | I need to change my distro to Debian, but don't want to loose all my configurations and installations... Is there a way to succeed on that? |
| 13:35.21 | vovo4ka | how to mount NTFS RAID ? |
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| 13:35.58 | hammerabi | AndySantos: from? |
| 13:36.04 | hammerabi | Boxedman: ask Oracle |
| 13:36.20 | stew | vovo4ka: what kind of raid? |
| 13:36.38 | stew | vovo4ka: is it hardware raid? fakeraid? |
| 13:36.40 | elesouef | Ok, I found my nec express installation problem. The boot image cannot be handled by the motherboard bios. |
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| 13:37.07 | AndySantos | hammerabi: from Slackware 10 |
| 13:37.17 | elesouef | Is there a debian CD that has a small boot image ? (sysrescd has it). |
| 13:37.17 | vovo4ka | stew: if it is hard? |
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| 13:37.47 | hammerabi | AndySantos: then keep your /home/ and /usr/local/ and backup /etc/ and copy bits selectively |
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| 13:38.27 | stew | vovo4ka: "mount -t ntfs /dev/sdxx /path/to/mountpoint" where /dev/sdxx is the device node of the ntfs partition |
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| 13:38.33 | takatumi | AndySantos: debootstrap maybe |
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| 13:39.26 | jishin | I unintentionally delete /dev/hdc so i couldn't access to DVD drive, how can i retrieve it back ? |
| 13:39.29 | AndySantos | hammerabi: what do you mean with "copy bits selectively" ? |
| 13:39.39 | jm_ | jishin: MAKEDEV or mknod |
| 13:39.47 | stew | jm_: cd /dev ; MAKEDEV hdc |
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| 13:40.45 | stew | hrm |
| 13:40.45 | jm_ | jishin ^^^^^ |
| 13:40.45 | AndySantos | takatumi: can you explain "debootstrap" ??? |
| 13:40.46 | stew | !debootstrap |
| 13:40.46 | dpkg | debootstrap is, like, <caphuso> get the debootstrap source from http://packages.debian.org/, compile it, read the man page, install debian with it </caphuso> Useful for installing in a chroot. http://people.debian.org/~walters/chroot.html |
| 13:40.46 | jishin | it's still not back |
| 13:41.04 | jm_ | maybe you're using udev |
| 13:41.12 | hammerabi | AndySantos: I mean copy the bits that you care about over |
| 13:41.18 | hammerabi | AndySantos: which is probably only daemon config files |
| 13:41.36 | jishin | i run /dev/MAKEDEV -v hdc |
| 13:41.52 | stew | jishin: did you cd to /dev first? |
| 13:41.57 | jishin | yes, |
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| 13:42.12 | AndySantos | hammerabi: I get it... I will backup them though |
| 13:42.14 | stew | jishin: do you have udev installed? |
| 13:42.23 | jishin | i'll check right away |
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| 13:42.45 | jishin | yes, udev installed |
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| 13:43.31 | jm_ | then MAKEDEV won't work for you |
| 13:43.48 | jishin | is it, so how can I do, remove udev |
| 13:43.58 | jm_ | I don't recommend you to do that |
| 13:44.01 | stew | jishin: do you use gnome-volume-manager? |
| 13:44.27 | jishin | yes |
| 13:44.42 | stew | jishin: then you cannot remove udev. what version of udev / debian are you running? |
| 13:45.18 | jm_ | try to mknod it manually until next reboot |
| 13:45.40 | gb | eww using gnome too manage something sounds dangerous & awful |
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| 13:46.10 | stew | gb: do you have any idea what gnome-volume-manager does? |
| 13:46.55 | gb | stew: none, but it sounds awful if it involves gnome as the name suggests |
| 13:47.36 | stew | sure |
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| 13:48.41 | gb | stew: fear not I feel the same way towards kde & it's apps |
| 13:49.15 | takatumi | ion? |
| 13:49.21 | jishin | i ran mknod hdc b |
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| 13:49.39 | jishin | but had some errors |
| 13:49.46 | jm_ | read man mknod again |
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| 13:50.05 | stew | jishin: you shouldn't be bothering with mknod if you run udev |
| 13:50.34 | jishin | I run on Sarge stable but don't know version of udev |
| 13:50.57 | cahoot | stew: not possible to just restart udev? |
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| 13:51.34 | stew | cahoot: its definately possible |
| 13:51.39 | cahoot | no use? |
| 13:51.45 | stew | no idea, probably not |
| 13:51.50 | cahoot | ok |
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| 13:53.05 | gb | init 6 should restart it |
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| 13:54.16 | stew | stupid lag |
| 13:54.17 | jishin | i ran mknod hdc b 22 0 |
| 13:54.22 | vovo4ka | 8-( |
| 13:54.36 | jishin | then hdc appeared but I still couldn't access to the DVD drive |
| 13:54.36 | vovo4ka | NTFS fails on mount |
| 13:55.06 | kurcze | hello... Has somebody experienced any problems with anjuta in unstable? |
| 13:55.17 | kurcze | it crashes on start... on my computer |
| 13:55.33 | stew | kurcze: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 13:56.10 | stew | jishin: do you have a /dev/dvd or a /dev/cdrom? udev should be creating those automatically for you |
| 13:56.23 | jishin | yes, i have it in /dev |
| 13:56.24 | jm_ | isn't that just a symlink to the real device? |
| 13:57.19 | jishin | oh, yeah it's back |
| 13:57.20 | stew | jishin: what does /dev/dvd symlink to? |
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| 13:57.37 | vovo4ka | got error NTFS: Invalid $Mft record 0 |
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| 13:57.51 | jishin | after i installed xcdroast, it change my hdc to scd0 |
| 13:58.04 | stew | jishin: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 13:58.16 | stew | vovo4ka: are you sure you are trying to mount the correct partition? does it show up in "fdisk -l" as being an ntfs partition? |
| 13:58.16 | gb | vovo4ka: using a stock kernel or your own? |
| 13:58.30 | jishin | 2.8.6-2-386 |
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| 13:59.04 | stew | jishin: you shouldn't be using scd0 for a ide drive under 2.6 kenrels |
| 13:59.07 | jishin | i used mod ide-scsi to make my ATAPI drive seen as scsi |
| 13:59.11 | gb | shouldbe ok unless you are using somethingother then anntfs then |
| 13:59.23 | stew | jishin: don't do that, rmmod ide-scsi ; modprobe ide-cd |
| 13:59.31 | stew | jishin: this is why udev wasn't creating the device for you |
| 14:00.13 | gb | stew: in theory it should work,but I agree using scsi-emu is pretty pointless unless you have too |
| 14:00.16 | vovo4ka | stew: well... /dev/sda1 HPFS/NTFS |
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| 14:01.08 | stew | gb: what he is trying to do wont work |
| 14:01.42 | jishin | is said ide-scsi in use |
| 14:02.08 | jishin | i tried to burn cd on ATAPI drive , so used ide-scsi |
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| 14:02.46 | stew | jishin: what about "modprobe -r ide-scsi"? don't use ide-scsi |
| 14:03.12 | stew | jishin: in 2.6 you can simply do "cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom..." |
| 14:03.17 | sifi | how can BSD be called UNIX when non of them goes under UNIX [95, 98, 03], see: http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ ? |
| 14:03.36 | Eulex | jishin, umh, is it a sata cd drive? |
| 14:03.51 | jishin | no, just IDE |
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| 14:04.10 | gb | stew: provided /dev/cdrompoints to the correct device & said user is in the correct group with group privledges enabled on the device |
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| 14:04.37 | stew | gb: why wouldn't it be? |
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| 14:05.10 | unsolo | hmm what driver do i use on VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) |
| 14:05.22 | stew | gb: if it isn't its becuase he hand edited his udev config, which i'm sure he hasn't |
| 14:05.32 | gb | stew: not beingmy system, who knows? |
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| 14:05.59 | stew | gb: since he didn't even know if he had udev installed i'm going on the assumtion he didn't decide to start reconfiguring /etc/udev/ |
| 14:06.09 | sohmestra | [OT] why do a lot of spam emails get sent with the destination address having a prefix of 3D? |
| 14:06.23 | gb | I'm assumming he's not asking because it's all working fine |
| 14:06.25 | hammerabi | sifi: because the open group is irelevant and charges money for "certification" |
| 14:07.48 | sifi | hammerabi, from wikipedia: Only systems fully compliant with and certified to the Single UNIX Specification qualify as "UNIX" (others are called "UNIX system-like" or Unix-like). |
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| 14:08.11 | sifi | hammerabi, BSD is not UNIX then, its UNIX system-like or Unix-like |
| 14:08.23 | hammerabi | which is a useless distinction |
| 14:08.43 | sifi | hammerabi, sure? |
| 14:08.57 | mpoer | i'd always heard *BSD was UNIX, but I guess only UNIX is true UNIX |
| 14:09.03 | hammerabi | blah |
| 14:09.05 | unsolo | is OS400 unix like ? |
| 14:09.16 | sifi | hammerabi, mpoer me too |
| 14:09.17 | gb | sifi: isn'tthat an argument for elsewhere? |
| 14:09.18 | mpoer | does anyone actually run UNIX then? |
| 14:09.23 | hammerabi | sifi: you don't get to use the Unix trademark until you pay the opengroup money |
| 14:09.47 | gb | mpoer: I have on my sun before I went bush |
| 14:09.48 | sifi | hammerabi, exactly |
| 14:10.09 | mpoer | solaris = unix? |
| 14:10.12 | hammerabi | sifi: which is stupid and just the result of them happening to end up with the trademark |
| 14:10.13 | fireba11 | got some problems setting up exim4 with SSL and SMTP-AUTH on my debian sarge, someone can help me or point me to a good how-to ? |
| 14:10.14 | sifi | mpoer, yes |
| 14:10.24 | mpoer | sun = opengroup? |
| 14:10.29 | hammerabi | mpoer: no |
| 14:10.29 | sifi | mpoer, and AIX, thats all for SUS 03 (or UNIX 03) |
| 14:10.43 | sifi | mpoer, check out: http://www.opengroup.org/openbrand/register/ |
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| 14:11.20 | sifi | mpoer, sun = sun, Solaris = UNIX 03 |
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| 14:11.29 | bkw | I've installed debian testing(netboot) and did by misstake leave the pre made user pkg envirionment enabled, are there any simple way of removing all kde and gnome related packages? |
| 14:11.40 | gb | yay for slowaris |
| 14:11.56 | sifi | gb, yay? |
| 14:11.58 | stew | bkw: "/msg dpkg remove kde" "/msg dpkg remove gnome" |
| 14:11.59 | unsolo | but no answer to what drivers to use on a 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8378 [S3 UniChrome] Integrated Video (rev 01) |
| 14:12.09 | gb | sifi: sure :) |
| 14:12.12 | mpoer | hmm... so powerpcs really were considered true unix? |
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| 14:12.15 | bkw | stew: thx |
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| 14:12.35 | hammerabi | wtf |
| 14:12.37 | stew | unsolo: for x? either s3 or savage |
| 14:12.41 | hammerabi | are you guys trolling ot just really lost? |
| 14:12.48 | hammerabi | mpoer: ppc is a cpu architecture, not an OS |
| 14:12.51 | jishin | just reboot , than hdc bak to origin |
| 14:12.53 | unsolo | stew: i dont get any display on it but ill keep trying |
| 14:12.56 | mpoer | bkw: aptitude, go to the gnome and/or kde part, and hit '-' |
| 14:13.17 | stew | unsolo: x starts fine but you get a blank screen? |
| 14:13.24 | mpoer | i thought so, but it was listed... |
| 14:13.32 | unsolo | hmm something like that yes |
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| 14:13.34 | yxa | does debian run well on an old ultra 10? |
| 14:13.35 | jishin | what you recommend when burn cd with non-SCSI drive |
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| 14:13.43 | gb | mpoer: installing aptitude afterwards wont help with that will it? |
| 14:14.04 | mpoer | wait, he doesn't have aptitude? i missed something then |
| 14:14.11 | unsolo | and XF86Config -configure sets driver to vga |
| 14:14.18 | gb | I thought aptitude needed to be installed beforehand too handle all the dependencies |
| 14:14.22 | stew | unsolo: check the /var/log/XFree86.0.log for errors (lines staring with EE), and try to determine if its running at a resolution that your monitor cannot handle |
| 14:14.52 | stew | unsolo: don't use XF86Config --configure; /msg dpkg xmd5 ; /msg dpkg drxx |
| 14:15.12 | gb | Imust admit Ilove letting aptitude sort such things out |
| 14:15.23 | unsolo | stew: what to use then |
| 14:15.25 | mpoer | aptitude is part of base debian installation... it was for me at least. i used a net install via floppies |
| 14:15.44 | mpoer | bkw: do you have aptitude? |
| 14:15.48 | gb | mpoer: wasn't for me whenIinstalled potato |
| 14:16.13 | mpoer | weird... well maybe they make it part of the new installer |
| 14:16.20 | bkw | mpoer: I don't think so if it isn't in base. "/msg dpkg remove kde" "/msg dpkg remove gnome" made it. |
| 14:16.22 | mpoer | i've never installed debian before this installation |
| 14:16.24 | cahoot | jishin: cdrecord tends to be the heart of all frontends |
| 14:16.25 | ViViD | is there any way to get python >= 2.4 in sid? |
| 14:16.35 | mpoer | ok, sorry for the mishelp :p |
| 14:16.37 | mpoer | i'm still learning too |
| 14:16.39 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: apt-get install python2.4 |
| 14:17.00 | jishin | yes, i installed cdrecord and ran cdrecord -scanbus, but it didn't recognize my drive |
| 14:17.15 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, i did, but the .deb im installing requiring 2.4 says that my version is 2.3.whatever |
| 14:17.18 | jishin | that why i used ide-scsi simulation mod |
| 14:17.25 | mpoer | hmm... so what is a good FOSS program for backing-up audio cds? |
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| 14:17.27 | gb | mpoer: I think if your not,you're probably pushing up daisys or using somr proprietry pos which means you might as well be manure |
| 14:17.39 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: which .deb? |
| 14:17.45 | mpoer | haha. thanks gb :) |
| 14:17.58 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, its a menu editor for the annoying gnome 2.10.x |
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| 14:18.03 | cahoot | jishin: cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 14:18.22 | stew | jishin: don't use ide-scsi. use cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc |
| 14:18.24 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: what is the package name? where did you get it from? |
| 14:18.31 | ViViD | one sec |
| 14:18.38 | goccia | mpoer: abcde |
| 14:18.50 | stew | unsolo: did you read the xmd5 and drxx factoids? |
| 14:18.51 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, menueditor_0.4.2-2_all.deb |
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| 14:19.19 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, http://www.realistanew.com/2005/03/18/gnome-menu-editor/ |
| 14:19.21 | jishin | cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus pour some errors |
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| 14:19.29 | jishin | still didn't see my drive yet |
| 14:19.33 | unsolo | stew: working on it |
| 14:19.35 | yxa | hi does debian run well on an old ultra 10? |
| 14:19.47 | mpoer | thanks, goccia, i'll try it |
| 14:20.03 | mpoer | runs well on old thinkpads... what's an ultra 10? |
| 14:20.08 | ajs | uh, i need a favour from somebody running sarge with a 2.6.8-2-386 kernel. |
| 14:20.15 | ViViD | maybe i should recompile it with an older version of pytho |
| 14:20.19 | ajs | could somebody upload the corresponding initrd somewhere? |
| 14:20.27 | fireba11 | ajs ^^ |
| 14:20.29 | ajs | apt won't install the kernel image from a chroot |
| 14:20.33 | yxa | mpoer its a sparc |
| 14:20.45 | mpoer | i'm 2.6.12 sorry |
| 14:20.49 | ajs | and I have a dead server here. |
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| 14:20.56 | goccia | mpoer: np |
| 14:21.09 | stew | ajs: what error do you get when you try to install a kernel image? |
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| 14:21.15 | mpoer | oh.. i only know about 386/686 and not much about 'em |
| 14:21.18 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: whoever packaged that was an idiot. |
| 14:21.21 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: it's totally wrong. |
| 14:21.23 | ajs | Unknown DM device 254:0 |
| 14:21.30 | ajs | I know what the problem is. |
| 14:21.32 | bkw | XFree86 seem to be default for testing. Now can I remove the xfree86 packages and install Xorg instead if it's available? |
| 14:21.45 | ajs | I've got device-mapper loaded on an ubuntu live CD that I'm using to repair it |
| 14:21.48 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: so no, you're not going to be able to get that package to work. Try using the alacarte package instead. |
| 14:21.49 | fireba11 | ajs: got that kernel running on a box here .. |
| 14:21.56 | dondelelcaro | (or asking for it to be packaged or something) |
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| 14:22.13 | ajs | fireba11, that would be awesome if you could put /boot/initrd-<version> somewhere |
| 14:22.19 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, i thought alacarte required gnome >= 2.11beta |
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| 14:22.32 | ajs | I just need this machine to boot normally, then I can use apt again to reinstall the kernel. |
| 14:22.38 | ajs | boot partition got corrupted :-/ |
| 14:22.47 | stew | ajs: what version of initrd-tools do you have installed? |
| 14:22.51 | mpoer | hey abcd was exactly what i needed :) |
| 14:22.53 | jishin | thx stew, the cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc seems to work |
| 14:22.55 | ViViD | smeg = alacarte? |
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| 14:22.58 | fireba11 | ajs: send me a private message with your email and you can have it :-) |
| 14:22.59 | ajs | stew, whatever's in sarge. |
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| 14:23.27 | stew | ajs: please check |
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| 14:23.55 | ajs | 0.1.81.1 |
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| 14:24.03 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=344561 |
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| 14:24.18 | j0nas | heay guy's how do i start a program i daemon mode? |
| 14:24.26 | j0nas | the program is mbmon |
| 14:24.30 | stew | ajs: is your root on lvm? |
| 14:24.38 | edwin | I have a boot issue: at 'Loading modules' nothing happens for about 20 minutes |
| 14:24.39 | mpoer | mdmond? |
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| 14:25.05 | edwin | then I see 'hdc not ready for command' and booting completes |
| 14:25.18 | faisal_d | AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! |
| 14:25.22 | ajs | stew, no, just md |
| 14:25.25 | j0nas | mpoer: nop mbmon motherbord monitoryng thingy |
| 14:25.28 | jerome | bonjour ! I'm about to install debian on a brand new fujitsu P5600 athlon64 Sata PC (at work). Of course sarge doesn't recognize any partitionnable media. Are there any tutorials for installing sarge on sata ? |
| 14:25.34 | fireba11 | edwin: that sounds like hdc is dead |
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| 14:25.49 | fireba11 | !sata |
| 14:25.49 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 14:25.51 | jm_ | jerome: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 14:25.51 | edwin | thanks man |
| 14:25.53 | mpoer | i was just guesing, i have no idea |
| 14:26.19 | mpoer | what do you want it to do, though? |
| 14:26.32 | faisal_d | after batteling with the debian installer for full 3 hours... i managed to start the installation using floppy images.... and now after it downloaded the base system and installed everything and asked to reboot inot the system... it says Kernel panic... what the @$^@#^ is going on? |
| 14:26.47 | j0nas | mpoer: I just want it to start and runt in the background |
| 14:26.59 | mpoer | !mbmon |
| 14:26.59 | jerome | thanks jm_ |
| 14:27.16 | mpoer | k that didn't work... |
| 14:27.51 | j0nas | and my best frend google didnt know nether |
| 14:27.53 | j0nas | :( |
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| 14:27.57 | fireba11 | faisal_d: got no clue what you are doing to the poor debian installer, so can't tell you |
| 14:28.10 | TNKS | hi all. I'm trying to figure out apt-key a little more. |
| 14:28.17 | ajs | stew, problem is that i have no install media for debian, just a ubuntu live cd; package problem is probably due to that, but it's chicken&egg until I get boot the debian install. |
| 14:28.27 | stew | ajs: look at #264339 |
| 14:28.42 | TNKS | the man page says something about `apt-key update`, but I'm getting an error that says that I might not have debian-keyring installed, but I do. |
| 14:28.43 | jishin | i have a problem about Marvell Yukon 88E8053 onboard. I download patch from Syskonnect site, patch it than work fine with my master Debian-installed PC. But when I get that kernel image for clients to boot from my master server (running DHCP server) , it couldn't send back DHCP request to my server even when it recognized the Marvell ethercard. |
| 14:28.48 | ajs | stew, seen it, there was no suitable resolution. |
| 14:28.48 | stew | ajs: looks like maybe taking swap out of fstab might be worth trying? |
| 14:28.59 | sifi | lamequestion from me: what the differences between ^ and ^^ as chatsymbols? |
| 14:29.17 | ajs | stew, swapless machine |
| 14:29.18 | j0nas | mpoer: i gotit now :D |
| 14:29.29 | mpoer | j0nas: it looks like just a command... |
| 14:29.37 | cap | sifi: ^^ has got one ^ more than ^. |
| 14:29.39 | mpoer | oh alright then |
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| 14:29.43 | faisal_d | fireba11... i partitioned everything correctly... it downloaded everything right... asked me for a kernel image and i chose 2.6.8-2-686.. and the installation went great... then when it rebooted it said cannot open dev/console... Kernel panic: attempted to kill init... what is that??? |
| 14:29.45 | mpoer | how'd you do it then? /me is curious |
| 14:29.55 | sifi | cap, there is a point in that |
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| 14:30.08 | ajs | fireba11, you sending that file or not? |
| 14:30.13 | faisal_d | and the floppy part was because it refused to recognize my cdrom... |
| 14:30.15 | sifi | cap, is both the exactly same thing? |
| 14:30.27 | cap | No, sifi |
| 14:30.37 | stew | ajs: are you going to try to use someone elses initrd? |
| 14:30.38 | sifi | cap, so what is the diff? |
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| 14:30.58 | cap | Dunno, sifi, I use ^ as arrow-up, and ^^ as a lame smiley thing. |
| 14:30.59 | ajs | stew, yes, which will probably get me far enough to reinstall properly. |
| 14:31.01 | stew | ajs: do you know that the someone elses initrd probably won't have md support? |
| 14:31.15 | ajs | hum, bummer. |
| 14:31.22 | sifi | cap, ah =), see, I think that is what most people does =) |
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| 14:31.29 | ajs | I get the feeling I'm going to have to reinstall. |
| 14:31.34 | sifi | cap, ^^ is like evil horns |
| 14:31.38 | fireba11 | hmm |
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| 14:31.48 | ajs | There should be a rescue kernel that has things like that built in. |
| 14:32.03 | cap | sifi: No no no >:) |
| 14:32.07 | ajs | this initrd nonsense is all very good until /boot gets nuked. |
| 14:32.21 | sifi | cap, what would ^^ be then, a couple of eyes? |
| 14:32.35 | fireba11 | sifi: raised eyebrows |
| 14:32.47 | stew | ajs: is the md a raid1 or raid5? |
| 14:33.07 | sifi | fireba11, ah, whre can I find info about these smileys |
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| 14:33.24 | fireba11 | sifi: dunno .. wikipedia ? :-) |
| 14:33.27 | unsolo | stew: hmm doesnt seem to be able to rebuild it |
| 14:33.35 | ajs | stew, raid 1 |
| 14:33.37 | sifi | fireba11, did try that once ;) |
| 14:33.41 | stew | unsolo: what do you mean? |
| 14:33.46 | sifi | fireba11, well thx anyway |
| 14:33.54 | faisal_d | can anybody help me with my kernel panic problem? |
| 14:34.01 | goccia | faisal_d: eyeball grub menu.lst , double check doing a grub manual boot |
| 14:34.13 | sifi | faisal_d, ask your Q |
| 14:34.13 | stew | ajs: you could possibly work with one of the drives as if it wasn't raid, get a system up and running then rebuild the raid, and rebuild the initrd |
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| 14:34.43 | fireba11 | faisal_d sicne i got no clue what caused your kernel panic .. no |
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| 14:34.55 | Omnix | fireba11: ah thanks. I've been wondering about that one for some time :-) |
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| 14:35.00 | stew | ajs: this should give you some ideas: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
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| 14:35.25 | sifi | fireba11, what is he trying to do? |
| 14:35.31 | ajs | stew, alternatively I reinstall; mirroring a 200GB raid takes about an hour. |
| 14:35.43 | unsolo | i followed the xmd5 now nothing works i get EE unable to open config file |
| 14:36.18 | stew | unsolo: you followed xmd5 and drxx? |
| 14:36.22 | fireba11 | stew: using SATA2 is still painful .. even with M$ windooze ... they force you to supply a driver FLOPPY at boot .. no other option to get it working if it is the install device |
| 14:36.37 | stew | fireba11: why are you telling me this? |
| 14:36.42 | fireba11 | ajs: can copy that :-) |
| 14:36.49 | unsolo | stew: drxx command not found |
| 14:36.58 | unsolo | but yes followed both |
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| 14:37.14 | valdyn | !smite unsolo |
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| 14:37.25 | fireba11 | stew: since it really sucks .. and with debian SATA doesn't work as nicely as i would expect too |
| 14:37.33 | faisal_1 | sorry for that... DC... |
| 14:37.44 | stew | fireba11: if you have a specific question, ask it |
| 14:37.57 | faisal_d | can anybody help me with my kernel panic problem?? |
| 14:37.58 | stew | unsolo: does /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 exist? |
| 14:38.09 | valdyn | fireba11: sata a standard between disk and controller, debian does not need or care about that. Some sata controllers are supported, some are not. |
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| 14:38.19 | loloelgomero | hi |
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| 14:39.18 | unsolo | yes |
| 14:39.20 | fireba11 | valdyn: i know .. |
| 14:39.26 | unsolo | hmm think there was a bug |
| 14:39.34 | unsolo | i created sorry |
| 14:40.13 | fireba11 | someone here now who can lend me a hand getting SMTP with SSL working with exim4 ? |
| 14:40.30 | valdyn | Filbert: did you read the README? |
| 14:40.40 | valdyn | fireba11: ^^^ |
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| 14:41.13 | fireba11 | valdyn ? |
| 14:41.21 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 14:41.21 | valdyn | fireba11: did you read the README ? |
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| 14:41.46 | fireba11 | valdyn: yes .. didn't help much |
| 14:41.51 | sifi | valdyn, what is ^^^ means? |
| 14:42.09 | sifi | valdyn, I've seen ^ and ^^ but never ^^^ |
| 14:42.11 | valdyn | sifi: 3 arrow tips pointing upwards |
| 14:42.25 | jm_ | it means read above |
| 14:42.34 | sifi | valdyn, 3 lines or just one line |
| 14:42.39 | unsolo | stew: i selected the savage and got the error no screens found |
| 14:42.43 | paulswm | Heh |
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| 14:43.03 | jerome | fireba11: do you want exim to send to a smarthost using tls or use exim as a tls enabled smtp ? |
| 14:43.13 | sifi | valdyn, ok, one line =) |
| 14:43.17 | Eulex | hmm |
| 14:43.34 | Eulex | what package contains findchip? irda-tools claims to do it but doesn't |
| 14:43.42 | valdyn | fireba11: read /usr/share/doc/exim4/README.Debian.gz |
| 14:43.47 | fireba11 | jerome: the later .. am using it as smarthost, but no support for TLS there as far as i can tell |
| 14:44.02 | Eulex | sorry, meant irda-utils |
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| 14:44.51 | zimnyx | Where can i find info on packages status? |
| 14:44.54 | jerome | fireba11: ok, so I guess you'll have to read the doc as it is a bit complex |
| 14:44.56 | zimnyx | like ii, rc, iU |
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| 14:45.05 | jm_ | zimnyx: dpkg's status file |
| 14:45.06 | zimnyx | man dpkg doesn;t show it. |
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| 14:45.23 | zimnyx | jm_: i mean info on their meanings. |
| 14:45.32 | jm_ | zimnyx: dpkg -l output, at the top |
| 14:45.35 | Eulex | hrmph. seems like the maintainer forgot it for the version in testing. |
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| 14:46.48 | unsolo | pci 0000:01:00.0 refers to what pci adress ? PCI:0:1:0 in xfree86 |
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| 14:46.52 | zimnyx | jm_: does ppkg --purge-package, remove iU package? |
| 14:46.59 | zimnyx | *dpkg |
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| 14:47.17 | jm_ | zimnyx: it depends, not sure that it always works |
| 14:47.30 | zimnyx | jm_: apt-get --purge remove? |
| 14:47.41 | jm_ | zimnyx: no, use dpkg for such operations |
| 14:47.52 | jm_ | apt-get won't do things that dpkg can't do |
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| 14:48.05 | bkw | I'm running etch and would like to replace XFree86 with Xorg, dpkg (get xorg) told me to updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system will get xorg, and that the main pkg is xserver-xorg |
| 14:48.26 | bkw | I've tried to apt-get install xserver-xorg but its missing |
| 14:48.49 | pumpkin0 | bkw: did you run apt-get update before trying ? |
| 14:48.49 | Buzz123456 | hi I've got a problem with sound in amsn 0.95 anyone can help?? |
| 14:48.50 | zimnyx | jm_: thanks. |
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| 14:49.10 | unsolo | bkw: amd64 ? |
| 14:49.35 | bkw | unreal: i386 |
| 14:49.45 | bkw | pumpkin0: yes Ive done that. |
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| 14:50.22 | bkw | apt-get install x-window-system returns that lastest version is already installed |
| 14:50.42 | bkw | but no xorg, it's only xfree86 |
| 14:50.51 | ice_1963 | bkw jest install testing |
| 14:51.21 | bkw | ice_1963: I'm already on testing. |
| 14:51.26 | pumpkin0 | bkw: can you post your /etc/apt/sources.conf somewhere ? |
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| 14:51.57 | stew | bkw: what does apt-cache policy say for Candidate: and Installed:? |
| 14:52.06 | stew | bkw: err apt-cache policy x-window-system |
| 14:52.19 | ice_1963 | and you did not install xserver-xorg |
| 14:52.31 | stew | ice_1963: he shouldn't have to |
| 14:52.55 | bkw | pumpkin0: http://pastebin.com/481548 |
| 14:53.35 | stew | bkw: /msg dpkg testing security |
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| 14:53.43 | bkw | stew: http://pastebin.com/481550 |
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| 14:54.07 | stew | bkw: looks like that mirror is broken then |
| 14:54.50 | stew | bkw: if http://ftp.sunet.se etch/main is providing 4.3.0.dfsg.1-144.3.0.dfsg.1-14, its broken |
| 14:55.29 | pumpkin0 | unsolo: but not for long ... |
| 14:55.39 | unsolo | pumpkin0: hmm why not ? |
| 14:56.00 | unsolo | its got EM64T |
| 14:56.11 | stew | bkw: i'd try switching to ftp.se.debian.org |
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| 14:56.32 | bkw | stew: the easiest way is to edit sources.list by hand or are the tools for that also? |
| 14:56.49 | tuxbeginner | hi again |
| 14:56.54 | pumpkin0 | unsolo: so it's a new celeron ... OK. |
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| 14:56.59 | cat | stew: do apt-setup and changed it from there |
| 14:57.02 | jerome | damnit this box uses a SIS 965L southbridge. Looks like it's not supported yet. |
| 14:57.16 | unsolo | pumpkin0: yes ofcourse thats why im enjoying that fact :) |
| 14:57.16 | stew | bkw: either edit by hand or use apt-setup, they should both be very easy |
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| 14:58.14 | stew | but it looks like apt-setup is going away :( |
| 14:58.27 | bkw | After update, shall I basiclly apt-get install xserver-xorg or x-window-system-core ? |
| 14:58.33 | ice_1963 | vi /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:58.36 | stew | bkw: yes |
| 14:58.49 | stew | bkw: or apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:58.55 | jesperj | there are ardour-gtk-i686 and ardour-gtk packages, I have a pIII so I guess I should run the -i686? |
| 14:59.03 | tuxbeginner | Where is the difference between WLAN settings (essid, IP-address..) in /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/sysnetwork/network-skripts/ifcfg-wlan0 ? |
| 14:59.18 | whitehorse1 | ice_1963 hope you aren't suggesting that to a newbie ;) !q isn't that intutitive :D |
| 14:59.29 | pumpkin0 | jesperj: -i686 should be fine |
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| 14:59.37 | tuxbeginner | If i try to bring up "ifup wlan0" I have to set all the settings again |
| 14:59.39 | stew | tuxbeginner: what is /etc/sysnetwork ? is that a redhat thing or something? |
| 14:59.40 | jesperj | pumpkin0, what is -i686 anyway? |
| 14:59.51 | stew | tuxbeginner: man wireless ; man interfaces |
| 14:59.53 | jesperj | pumpkin0, and why should I run it rather than the other package |
| 14:59.57 | surface | how to umount the usbdisk if the usbdisk is already plug out? |
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| 15:00.05 | Roey | hi |
| 15:00.07 | Eulex | jesperj, the package optimized for pentium pro and later |
| 15:00.10 | tuxbeginner | stew: already read those |
| 15:00.14 | Roey | anyone here using apt-proxy? I need a backend server for debian-amd64. |
| 15:00.20 | pumpkin0 | jesperj: packages precompiled and optimised for Pentium II or later. You can use the other packages too... |
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| 15:00.29 | stew | tuxbeginner: do you have your wireless settings in /etc/network/interfaces? |
| 15:00.37 | jesperj | Ok Eulex and pumpkin0 |
| 15:00.39 | stew | pumpkin0: s/II/Pro/ |
| 15:00.52 | tuxbeginner | OK, t was /etc/sysconfig/network-skripts/ifcfg-wlan0 |
| 15:00.55 | jesperj | pumpkin0, but if it is optimized then i guess it makes little sense not to use -i686? |
| 15:01.02 | jesperj | or is the performance gain minimal? |
| 15:01.08 | stew | tuxbeginner: ok what is /etc/sysconfig/ is that a redhat thing? |
| 15:01.08 | tuxbeginner | stew: yes AND in ifcfg-wlan0 |
| 15:01.19 | tuxbeginner | debian sarge |
| 15:01.25 | bkw | stew: no way, looks like apt-get distupgrade wants tons of gnome/kde things I don't want. |
| 15:01.25 | pumpkin0 | jesperj: for normal everyday Office-use the difference is minimal. |
| 15:01.59 | stew | bkw: then remove them |
| 15:01.59 | dimir | tuxbeginner: /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts is no a Debian thing. |
| 15:02.12 | ice_1963 | ok this will work gedit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:02.17 | stew | tuxbeginner: can you put the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces in a pastebin? |
| 15:02.30 | stew | ice_1963: what are you trying to do? |
| 15:02.40 | Eulex | pumpkin0, no, 686 == pentium pro and later |
| 15:03.25 | tuxbeginner | stew: I did not put the file ifcfg-wlan0 in there and I am using debain sargae, so to me it must be debian stuff... |
| 15:03.36 | stew | tuxbeginner: no, its not debian stuff |
| 15:03.53 | stew | tuxbeginner: its from redhat or suse or mandriver or something |
| 15:04.05 | pumpkin0 | tuxbeginner: which driver do you use for the WLAN ? |
| 15:04.20 | bkw | stew: I assume install xorg with overwrite/update the xfree86 pkg or will both be installed at the same so I have to remove xfree86 releated by hand? |
| 15:04.56 | pumpkin0 | bkw: apt should remove the xfree-part. |
| 15:05.10 | bkw | ok I understand |
| 15:05.13 | Eulex | bkw, from where did you install xorg? |
| 15:05.18 | jesperj | does it pay to use i686 packages for cpu intensive applications? |
| 15:05.33 | Eulex | jesperj, should do a bit. |
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| 15:05.39 | jesperj | ok |
| 15:05.40 | pumpkin0 | jesperj: yes. but there is alos AMD64 ... |
| 15:05.58 | tuxbeginner | stew: http://pastebin.com/481563 |
| 15:05.59 | bkw | Eulex: I did apt-get install x-window-system-core on a default testing installation |
| 15:05.59 | jesperj | pumpkin0, but I got an old pIII 1 ghz :) |
| 15:06.07 | jesperj | need all juice I can |
| 15:06.18 | pumpkin0 | jesperj: OK, so i686. |
| 15:06.20 | tuxbeginner | pumpkin0: ndiswrapper |
| 15:07.05 | jesperj | I'm on testing, I see rosegarden4 is available as a package but it contains no description |
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| 15:07.48 | tuxbeginner | pumpkin0: Connection is fine (as you see...) but I need to set essid and key every time i bring up wlan0 |
| 15:08.11 | jesperj | Package rosegarden4 has no available version, but exists in the database. |
| 15:08.29 | Eulex | bkw, if you installed testing, why did you have xfree86 lying around? you installed sarge and dist-upgraded to testing? |
| 15:08.31 | ke6isf | !info rosegarden4 etch |
| 15:08.36 | alus | so apt says "After unpacking 11.5MB disk space will be freed." I don't think that really constitues "unpacking" anything |
| 15:08.42 | faisal_d | guys what does it mean when during boot you get the following message: "Attempted to kill init kernel panic" |
| 15:08.48 | stew | jesperj: /msg dpkg why is rosegarden4 not in testing |
| 15:08.49 | alus | also "11.5MB disk space" sounds akward |
| 15:09.00 | pumpkin0 | tuxbeginner: that's a ndiswrapper-thing, i dont know that "thing". |
| 15:09.03 | hammerabi | alus: so send in a patch |
| 15:09.10 | Eulex | jesperj, kde stuff in testing is b0rked atm |
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| 15:09.32 | ke6isf | jesperj: rosegarden4 doesn't seem to be in etch, according to the bot. Try 'apt-cache search rosegarden' for suitable substitutes. |
| 15:09.52 | jesperj | ty |
| 15:09.53 | stew | jesperj: or backport it from sid; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:10.28 | bkw | Eulex: the mirror I used was b0rked no containing xorg for testing. |
| 15:10.35 | bkw | not |
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| 15:10.58 | kepht | is 'alternatives' broken? i've noticed that some programs get deleted from /usr/bin when doing update-alternatives |
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| 15:11.40 | pumpkin0 | bkw: hmmm... etch has some problems right now. That got nothing to do with the mirrors, that's a general problem. |
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| 15:11.55 | stew | pumpkin0: no, he was on a bad mirror |
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| 15:12.04 | stew | pumpkin0: his mirror was still providing xfree in etch |
| 15:12.11 | jesperj | why does installation of jackd need ardour-gtk-i686 to be removed? |
| 15:12.21 | tonix | hi guys, i need to install a debian fileserver, the mainboard has a raid controller, and i need and advice from you: do you think i should prefere to setup raid-1 with linux or with the mb controller? thanks a lot |
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| 15:13.22 | stew | tonix: what is the onboard controller? is it hardware raid or fakeraid? |
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| 15:13.32 | tictac | tonix: hardware raid is _ALWAYS_ better. |
| 15:13.39 | tonix | stew: intel raid controller (sata) |
| 15:14.01 | tonix | tictac: thanks |
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| 15:14.54 | stew | tonix: sounds like its probably real hardware raid, hopefully it has good kernel support in which case i agree with tictac |
| 15:14.54 | DevilChaos | hi im getting a seg fault with dvdrip anyone help? |
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| 15:15.33 | debiankid | hello room |
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| 15:15.51 | stew | !room |
| 15:15.52 | dpkg | CHANNEL! |
| 15:15.58 | tonix | stew: thanks to you too! with raid controller, what do i need to do in case of disk failure? |
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| 15:16.32 | tonix | do i need to replace the corrupt disk only and the controller rebuild the raid for me? |
| 15:16.33 | mop | hi guys, I have 2 debian sarge with gnome but in 1 no automatic usb key are recognised, some suggests ? |
| 15:16.41 | tuxbeginner | stew: any idea regarding the interfaces file` |
| 15:16.55 | stew | tonix: hopefully your raid controller is smart enough to send you email / page you, and you replace the dead disk. dunno about intel specifically, i've mostly worked with 3ware |
| 15:17.05 | stew | tuxbeginner: i don't know anything about ndiswrapper and it scares me off |
| 15:17.29 | jesperj | ardour needs jack to run, but when I try to install ardour, it says jackd needs to be removed |
| 15:17.30 | DevilChaos | hi stew |
| 15:17.32 | tonix | stew: thanks a lot! |
| 15:17.34 | debiankid | paste? |
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| 15:17.38 | stew | tuxbeginner: your interfaces file looks fine to me though |
| 15:17.39 | tuxbeginner | stew: there is nothing about ndiswrapper in that file, I promise ;) |
| 15:17.43 | bkw | Xorg -configure return "Missing output drivers." I have a radeon9200. |
| 15:17.47 | tuxbeginner | allrigttt |
| 15:17.55 | jesperj | so when i try to launch ardour after having uninstalled jackd, ardour complaisn about jack not being run |
| 15:18.07 | tuxbeginner | I keep trying |
| 15:18.10 | stew | tuxbeginner: if you do ifdown wlan0 ; ifup wlan0 ; do your wireless settings get set? |
| 15:18.21 | stew | tuxbeginner: or /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 15:18.29 | abrotman | jack and jackd are two different programs |
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| 15:18.35 | debiankid | hello everyone im having serious trouble installing apache-ssl |
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| 15:18.37 | vchrizz | hi |
| 15:19.18 | debiankid | check the paste http://channels.debian.net/paste/1402 |
| 15:19.19 | stew | tuxbeginner: actually /etc/init.d/networking restart shouldn't since you don't have wlan0 marked as auto |
| 15:19.25 | jesperj | ok abrotman |
| 15:19.35 | tuxbeginner | stew: If I do wlan down, wlan up all settings are gone (shows me iwconfig) and I have to set essid and and key again with iwconfig wlan0... |
| 15:19.36 | debiankid | and tell me what you think |
| 15:19.54 | jesperj | I thought it needed jackd, it didn't seem as obvious it needed jack for ogg and mp3 |
| 15:20.00 | vchrizz | ive got a logitech quickcam (messenger) on my usb-pci card, required modules are loaded but i cant access the cam on /dev/video0 ... dmesg | grep "usb\|hub\|video" -> http://rafb.net/paste/results/prSC7691.html |
| 15:20.18 | vchrizz | im trying this tut: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm |
| 15:21.26 | whitehorse1 | debiankid Installing OpenSSH? |
| 15:21.33 | stew | tuxbeginner: dunno then, seems like it should work. maybe it doesn't like one of your settings, maybe try stuff like remove the essid from intefaces, and see if with that removed the others get set |
| 15:21.51 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: I think that cam doesn't work under linux |
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| 15:22.02 | vchrizz | here i pasted also lsmod: http://rafb.net/paste/results/ZskNGW18.html |
| 15:22.06 | |RABBIT| | greetings |
| 15:22.26 | jesperj | abrotman, Jack - rip and encode CDs with one command, jackd - JACK Audio Connection Kit (server and example clients). Ardour wants to remove jackd when to be installed |
| 15:22.44 | jesperj | abrotman, jack, which I just installed, the cd ripper, did not make ardour start |
| 15:22.45 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: well, i used his cam already with linux one-two years ago... but that was with woody ... |
| 15:22.47 | |RABBIT| | how do I switch my consoles to properly display UTF without breaking ncurses applications? |
| 15:22.50 | jesperj | still complains about jack not being run |
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| 15:23.09 | stew | jamuraa_: exactly what package are you tring to install that is wanting to remove jackd? |
| 15:23.32 | jesperj | steri, ardour-gtk or ardour-gtk-i686 |
| 15:23.36 | whitehorse1 | debiankid: I can't assist personally; I was just looking for suitable guides online, http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/31 may (or may not) be of some use? |
| 15:24.02 | jesperj | same when I have ardour installed and try to install jackd, then jackd wants to remove ardour |
| 15:24.21 | abrotman | jesperj: duh |
| 15:24.27 | goccia | that's called catch22 ... |
| 15:24.40 | jesperj | :) |
| 15:24.46 | bkw | xorgconfig not included in the debian xorg packages? |
| 15:24.53 | whitehorse1 | |RABBIT| assuming you didn't run localepurge to remove UTF-8 locales [in favour of say ISO9558-1 or whatever it is ;)] then just install the correct locale data |
| 15:25.06 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: maybe I'me confused...but I have the same cam(dont use it) and I tried once (1 or 2 years ago) without sucess |
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| 15:25.36 | Rokyu_ | since then I've always had the impression that it doesn't work under linux |
| 15:25.39 | w|edge | I love debian :D |
| 15:25.51 | w|edge | took me 10minutes to install full system with full-configuration |
| 15:26.04 | w|edge | RAID5 - Stat:OK!, Task: 100, Func:R5R Ctr: 0, State:DNE 100.0% |
| 15:26.07 | w|edge | all setup ^^ |
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| 15:26.22 | w|edge | Same tasks in gentoo from stage1 took over 5 hours. |
| 15:26.27 | goccia | hhihihi |
| 15:26.35 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: if i could remember which howto i have used to get it working, i would show you :) i cant find it with google... |
| 15:26.35 | stew | jesperj: what version of debian |
| 15:26.36 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: if u say it's possible..than that's good news |
| 15:26.38 | w|edge | compile-hell |
| 15:26.44 | jesperj | stew, testing |
| 15:26.51 | bkw | If Xorg -configure returns Missing output drivers for a radeon9200, and xorgconfig doesn't exist. How is xorg then configured? |
| 15:27.00 | stew | jesperj: there is no ardur-gtk in testing |
| 15:27.03 | |RABBIT| | whitehorse1: well... it kind-of works - I mean the console itself is running as supposed to |
| 15:27.11 | jesperj | ardour-gtk |
| 15:27.22 | |RABBIT| | whitehorse1: but things like midnight commander and everything else that uses ncurses is broken |
| 15:27.24 | stew | !+info ardour-gtk testing |
| 15:27.25 | dpkg | Package 'ardour-gtk' does not exist. |
| 15:27.32 | |RABBIT| | jumping all over and stuff, garbage instead of lines |
| 15:27.35 | stew | !+info ardour-gtk unstable |
| 15:27.37 | dpkg | ardour-gtk: (digital audio workstation (graphical gtk interface)), section sound, is optional. Version: 0.99-3+b1 (sid), Packaged size: 2218 kB, Installed size: 5740 kB |
| 15:27.46 | jesperj | oh great :( |
| 15:28.09 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: it surely works, maybe depending on chipset... the only thing is, under linux i cant get a higher resolution that 320x240 (windows drivers show me a picture at even 640x480) |
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| 15:28.32 | jesperj | meaning my system is broken |
| 15:28.33 | ke6isf | stew: What does the + do in that info bit? |
| 15:28.34 | vchrizz | but now it even doesnt use the module |
| 15:28.38 | teufel | Could someone help me set up my proxy server? I'm using this guide http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm but it isn't working... the connection is not reaching my wireless router |
| 15:28.40 | vchrizz | i dont have a clue why |
| 15:28.47 | jesperj | I only have testing sources in my sources.list |
| 15:28.57 | bibe | hi all. How can I send a mail with one (or more) file(s) attached from the command line? |
| 15:29.03 | stew | ke6isf: if i didn't have the + it would have send me the "does not exist" in msg instead of to the channel |
| 15:29.12 | vchrizz | bibe: man mail :) |
| 15:29.14 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: better than nothing...I'm googling, trying to find somethin |
| 15:29.16 | ke6isf | stew: Ah, OK. |
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| 15:29.28 | ke6isf | bibe: pine. |
| 15:29.31 | stew | jesperj: can you put the output of "apt-cache policy ardour-gtk" into a pastebin? |
| 15:29.41 | ke6isf | bibe: elm. mutt. |
| 15:29.43 | bibe | vchrizz : thanks. I was reading 'man mailx' |
| 15:29.46 | jesperj | sure |
| 15:30.14 | bibe | ke6isf : can I use mutt from cron? |
| 15:30.16 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: i just found http://qce-ga.sourceforge.net/ ... yeah, i remember using that... |
| 15:30.27 | bibe | ke6isf : ok, I am reading the man page |
| 15:30.49 | ke6isf | bibe: Not necessarily from cron. What precisely are you trying to do? |
| 15:31.23 | jesperj | stew, http://pastebin.com/481610 |
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| 15:31.28 | aimtrainer | hi! I dont have sound on the right side. I tried two different soundblaster live 5.1 s and different speakers. I also checked the balance in kmix and xmms. Does any of you have an idea? |
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| 15:31.34 | jesperj | sorry about the locale problem, it is swedish |
| 15:31.34 | Greek-Boy | if i need a crontab entry to run every 90 minutes how would I add it? |
| 15:31.39 | bibe | ke6isf : I'd like to collect some log files from four servers and attach them (if possible) in a single email message, to be sent on a daily basis |
| 15:31.50 | stew | jesperj: that mirror is broken, use a different mirror |
| 15:31.56 | jesperj | ok |
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| 15:32.05 | stew | jesperj: try ftp.se.debian.org |
| 15:32.06 | jesperj | ty |
| 15:32.16 | stew | jesperj: we just figured this out with bkw |
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| 15:32.40 | stew | jesperj: then when you are on a working mirror, ardour-gtk won't be available at all |
| 15:32.47 | ke6isf | bibe: Since it's text, in theory you shouldn't have to even attach them as files. I'd say get the files, and do something like 'cat file1 file2 file3 file4 | mail -s "subject goes here" dest@addr.ess'. |
| 15:32.53 | bibe | ke6isf : but I'll probably need to have the logs separated, that's why I don't cat them into an email body |
| 15:32.53 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: is this the one? http://home.mag.cx/messenger/ |
| 15:33.02 | ke6isf | bibe: ...oh. |
| 15:33.09 | jesperj | stew, great ;D |
| 15:33.26 | ke6isf | bibe: In that case, I'd personally wind up just sending four different email messages. |
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| 15:33.33 | jesperj | so no rosegarden and no ardour |
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| 15:33.41 | jesperj | I guess Ill have to make a backport of ardour then |
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| 15:33.45 | stew | jesperj: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:33.52 | stew | jesperj: and possibly jackd |
| 15:34.00 | possie | what is the best way (e.g. get the best quality) to convert a latex document to pdf? |
| 15:34.16 | stew | jesperj: ardour depends on libjack which conflicts with all versions of jackd that aren't the jackd that it is compiled for |
| 15:34.18 | jesperj | yeah ty |
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| 15:35.23 | seb__ | what new features emprove kde 3.5 ? |
| 15:35.25 | stew | jesperj: your other *more dangerous* but possibly easier method is "/msg dpkg quick etch/sid mix" but i wouldn't recommend that unless you are pretty comfortable with debian already |
| 15:35.27 | realjimshady | Simple package management ?: I apt-get removed samba, then apt-get install'ed samba... it appeared to re-install OK, but the /etc/samba folder is empty... Not having much luck finding out why... |
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| 15:35.43 | stew | realjimshady: /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 15:36.29 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: ya, that was what i used... not even 640x480 res :( |
| 15:36.33 | bibe | ke6isf : I got it! echo "... the four files" |mutt -a file1 -a file2 -a file3 -a file4 -s "Here are..." em@i.l |
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| 15:36.41 | jesperj | stew, I've been using debian for some time now but I seem to get stuck at this level of user ability |
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| 15:36.47 | jesperj | ty though |
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| 15:36.50 | realjimshady | Stew: Thanks very much! |
| 15:36.56 | rking | is dd if=/dev/cdrom of=monkey.iso a correct way to make a .iso? |
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| 15:37.29 | ke6isf | bibe: Hey, if it works. =^^= |
| 15:37.30 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: have u tried? |
| 15:37.38 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: I dont have mine here |
| 15:37.40 | abrotman | !u |
| 15:37.40 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 15:37.58 | bibe | ke6isf : yes, it works. Thanks |
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| 15:38.11 | jethro | abrotman: I does I run quake on debina? |
| 15:38.12 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: on my old woody installation i tried it, yes... and on the page it writes also about the supported res |
| 15:38.26 | abrotman | jethro: load up the 2344 floppies! |
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| 15:38.37 | jethro | abrotman: >_< |
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| 15:39.32 | abrotman | jethro: hey .. it's either that or load off cassette |
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| 15:39.43 | seb__ | a friend say me gentoo is 10x quickest as debian, it is right? |
| 15:39.46 | jethro | abrotman: how many punchcards would that be? |
| 15:39.52 | jethro | seb__: yes |
| 15:39.58 | blondie | seb__: sure |
| 15:39.58 | abrotman | seb__: if your friend speaks like that .. he's probably never right |
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| 15:40.04 | abrotman | jethro: 345345275894679 |
| 15:40.12 | jethro | seb__: it just takes 100x more times to install |
| 15:40.19 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: I meant now :)...if u try it.....say something |
| 15:40.25 | abrotman | !tell Rokyu_ about u |
| 15:40.28 | Eclipser | jethro, more like 100kx |
| 15:40.28 | undies | hi |
| 15:40.39 | jethro | Eclipser: that's because you use a 8086 |
| 15:40.42 | seb__ | tar.gz are unestimable sources of building |
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| 15:40.48 | vchrizz | Rokyu_: oh, im trying, if i get it to work, ill tell you ;) |
| 15:40.52 | jesperj | now when I do reload in synaptic I get a warnign message saying "the following problems were detected on your system:" and then there is no text in the text area. |
| 15:41.15 | undies | can someone help me with linux |
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| 15:41.18 | P4 | hey |
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| 15:41.21 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz:thanks! |
| 15:41.27 | abrotman | undies: which version of linux ? |
| 15:41.28 | Rokyu_ | abrotman: thanks ;) |
| 15:41.32 | undies | fedora |
| 15:41.36 | abrotman | !fedora |
| 15:41.36 | dpkg | i guess fedora is Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, modelled after other community projects such as Debian and Gentoo. It is not directly supported by Red Hat itself. See http://fedora.redhat.com or #Fedora for more information |
| 15:41.39 | P4 | do you know how can check which ports no my localhost are listen? (nmap tells all filtered) |
| 15:41.44 | seb__ | deb archives are now RPM's deprecated |
| 15:41.46 | abrotman | undies: and if that fails .. use ##linux |
| 15:41.55 | undies | ok thanks |
| 15:42.03 | abrotman | seb__: you're not making any sense |
| 15:42.04 | abrotman | !fr |
| 15:42.04 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 15:42.41 | fireba11 | abrotman: sounds like a flamewar-bot to me ... |
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| 15:42.50 | goccia | rking: you said monkey.iso is an iso : use mkisofs -v -R -J -D -T -o real.iso /media/cdrom/ |
| 15:42.53 | seb__ | #debian-fr |
| 15:42.54 | abrotman | fireba11: i think he's been here before |
| 15:43.06 | kristalino | after creating a partition, how to see it in /dev/hdxxx ? |
| 15:43.19 | abrotman | format it .. mount it |
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| 15:43.44 | kristalino | abrotman, done, but i dont see it |
| 15:43.59 | abrotman | cat /proc/partitions ? |
| 15:44.03 | kristalino | i cant format it actually |
| 15:44.10 | paulswm | kristalino: fdisk -l /dev/hdX as root, where X is the letter of the drive, that will list all the partitions on it for you |
| 15:44.16 | seb__ | newbee with IRC how join to debian-fr?thanks |
| 15:44.29 | undies | how do you register with the server? |
| 15:44.33 | beardy | seb__: How did you join this channel? |
| 15:44.39 | paulswm | seb__: /join #debian-fr |
| 15:44.46 | seb__ | with connect |
| 15:44.49 | beardy | undies: /msg nickserv help |
| 15:44.58 | undies | doesnt do anything |
| 15:45.01 | undies | says no name |
| 15:45.11 | undies | oh wait |
| 15:45.18 | undies | must have put in server |
| 15:45.28 | kristalino | paulswm, the new partition is already created with cfdisk, and is OK |
| 15:45.42 | jethro | !tell undies about enter |
| 15:45.51 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, is there a way to make my system default to python2.4, ive tried everything i can think of, and dpkg still doesnt recognize that 2.4 is installed |
| 15:45.53 | paulswm | kristalino: what sort of filesystem do you want to put on it? |
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| 15:46.16 | jethro | ViViD: update-alternatives maybe? |
| 15:46.17 | kristalino | abrotman, i don't see all the partitions, i just don't want to reboot, i'm shure if i reboot i will see them :) |
| 15:46.21 | kristalino | paulswm, ext3 |
| 15:46.32 | beardy | ViViD: Run python2.4 instead of python. |
| 15:46.48 | jethro | beardy: that's not what I'd call "default to python2.4" |
| 15:47.04 | stew | ViViD: update-alternatives --config python |
| 15:47.11 | jethro | beardy: and you'd have to sed a couple of shebangs :) |
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| 15:47.37 | boguh | hi, can i mount a sd card from my palm when its in the palm? |
| 15:47.38 | paulswm | kristalino: Then man mke2fs (you want to use the -j option, example "mke2fs -j -Lmypartition /dev/hda2") |
| 15:47.47 | beardy | jethro: Others have asked about this. Messing with the symlinks (as I then suggested) only got me bashed, by IIRC, the person he specifically asked.. |
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| 15:48.07 | jethro | beardy: I'd dsay the debian way is update-alternatives |
| 15:48.09 | paulswm | kristalino: ext3 is ext2 with a journal, hence 'mke2fs' |
| 15:48.17 | realjimshady | Anyone have any advice for when dpkg --force-confmiss is NOT restoring deleted config files? Samba is the package in question... TIA... |
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| 15:48.42 | beardy | jethro: I don't think the python version can be configured there, but I agree, that is the way it should be done. |
| 15:48.43 | kristalino | paulswm, thats not the problem : /dev/hda3 --- no file like this |
| 15:48.46 | jethro | beardy: and I wouldn't mind being bashed by someone who thinks gnu userland is the only way for solaris to approach workable ;) |
| 15:48.51 | stew | realjimshady: you probably need to be doing that with some other pacakge, like samba-common |
| 15:48.57 | debiankid | hey peolple i need soeme help , im trying to install apache with ssl module but he dont run http://channels.debian.net/paste/1403 |
| 15:48.58 | seb__ | i have problem with visual python >>unresolved dependencies with an libboost, unstable doesn't give recent file |
| 15:49.01 | realjimshady | Stew, thanks, I will try |
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| 15:49.23 | hawking | how can i upgrade python 2.3 to python 2.4 in debian sarge? |
| 15:49.31 | beardy | jethro: Can it be configured through update-alternatives? |
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| 15:49.53 | jethro | beardy: I don't know, I was taking a wild guess :) |
| 15:49.59 | paulswm | kristalino: What's the command you're using, and what's the exact error message |
| 15:49.59 | beardy | jethro: :) |
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| 15:50.23 | StereoSkit | dudes, i just upgrade from stable to testing and now i cant install opera, the libqt3c102-mt cant be installed nor is in the list of installable packages? same with k3b (i use fb as desktop), does anyone know why? |
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| 15:50.41 | teufel | when I run a shell script, I get the following printed out about 6 times: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.27.2-386/modules.dep |
| 15:50.48 | realjimshady | Stew rocks! Thanks! |
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| 15:51.36 | stew | StereoSkit: libqt3c102-mt is replaced by libqt3-mt, opera needs to be recompiled. k3b was removed for the 3.4 transition, /msg dpkg kde3.4 ; /msg dpkg why is k3b not in testing |
| 15:51.39 | hawking | when I try to remove python 2.3 from synaptic it says it has to remove nearly all linux!! so is there no way to upgradE?? |
| 15:52.05 | StereoSkit | stew: tnx a lot |
| 15:52.23 | stew | hawking: multiple versionf of python can peacefully co-exist, don't remove 2.3 if you want 2.4 just install 2.4 as well |
| 15:52.44 | kristalino | paulswm, mkfs.ext2 -j /dev/hda3 ---> no file like this |
| 15:52.45 | sohmestra | hawking: there are a lot of things that depend on python2.3, just install python2.4 if you want that to be available |
| 15:52.51 | stew | abrotman: tell StereoSkit how to get opera in testing |
| 15:52.52 | hawking | stew : hmm I see... so there is no way to get rid of it right? :) |
| 15:53.17 | sohmestra | hawking: not without getting rid of all the packages that depend on it |
| 15:53.28 | goccia | kristalino: is /dev/hda3 an extended partition ? |
| 15:53.40 | sohmestra | hawking: is there any particular reason why it must _not_ be installed? |
| 15:53.55 | hawking | sohmestra: disk space |
| 15:54.15 | kristalino | goccia, nope. errrm |
| 15:54.16 | jethro | beardy: oddly enough, I have python 2.3 and 2.4 installed, and I can't use update-alternatives, so I'm either missing something, or I have to apologize for my earlier statement |
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| 15:55.04 | rking | if i do dd if=/dev/cdrom of=foo.iso, will this make an ISO that, say, cdrecord can burn? |
| 15:55.15 | sohmestra | hawking: can i interest you in one of the old harddrives in my collection? ;o) |
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| 15:55.39 | abrotman | StereoSkit: use the static package |
| 15:56.00 | SkArFaCe | does anyone know which gaim i should download for demudi |
| 15:56.02 | hawking | sohmestra: lol |
| 15:56.31 | paulswm | kristalino: What is the exact error message? I've never seen "no file like this" |
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| 15:56.56 | goccia | ahhhh |
| 15:57.00 | rking | oh, i'm looking for readcd. |
| 15:57.02 | whitehorse1 | thank you blondie |
| 15:57.05 | teufel | when I run a shell script, I get the following printed out about 6 times: Note: /etc/modules.conf is more recent than /lib/modules/2.4.27.2-386/modules.dep |
| 15:57.06 | blondie | anytime |
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| 15:57.45 | whitehorse1 | you crazy kentian hailing person blondie |
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| 15:57.51 | notgoingtowork | i'm gay |
| 15:57.52 | notgoingtowork | i'm perverted |
| 15:57.55 | notgoingtowork | i done like it up the ass |
| 15:57.59 | blondie | that's nice for you |
| 15:58.02 | teufel | notgoingtowork: .... |
| 15:58.02 | notgoingtowork | i mean |
| 15:58.05 | notgoingtowork | so far up the ass that it pops outta my mouth |
| 15:58.09 | notgoingtowork | that's how i like it, negroes |
| 15:58.14 | jesperj | notgoingtowork, you embaress yourself |
| 15:58.17 | teufel | you are like 8? |
| 15:58.18 | paulswm | notgoingtowork: Then install Win2K |
| 15:58.19 | satan | you should have that looked at. |
| 15:58.22 | notgoingtowork | embaress <--- lol!!!!!!!!!! |
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| 15:58.39 | blondie | notgoingtowork: don't you mean "school" instead of work |
| 15:58.40 | whitehorse1 | SkArFaCe: What do you mean which Gaim? There's only one apart from the video-gaim offshoot which you probably don't need to worry about |
| 15:58.45 | notgoingtowork | yesh butt i no hwo 2 spel |
| 15:58.52 | goccia | rking: so you don't believe me : do your dd and then try to mount "monkey.iso" on loopback ... |
| 15:58.59 | notgoingtowork | blondie i'm smarter than you, niglet |
| 15:59.01 | blondie | notgoingtowork: in that case you meant "arse" not "ass" |
| 15:59.11 | jethro | come on why do you feed the troll |
| 15:59.15 | jethro | just ignore that twat |
| 15:59.15 | blondie | for fun :| |
| 15:59.19 | blondie | ok |
| 15:59.21 | jethro | it ain't funny |
| 15:59.27 | notgoingtowork | jethro because they aren't smart enough to understand WHY you don't feed trolls. |
| 15:59.30 | paulswm | !ops notgoingtowork troll, abusive |
| 15:59.30 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: notgoingtowork troll, abusive |
| 15:59.35 | notgoingtowork | jesperj IZ ME EMBERESSING MYSELF? |
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| 15:59.43 | whitehorse1 | what a surprise, notgoingtowork is a dialup customer frm qwest. anyway, ignore... |
| 15:59.45 | notgoingtowork | yeah bitches |
| 15:59.47 | jesperj | notgoingtowork, yes |
| 15:59.49 | notgoingtowork | try to get rid of me |
| 15:59.54 | notgoingtowork | HEY OPS |
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| 16:00.03 | jethro | thank you lorez |
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| 16:00.08 | notgoingtowork | lol! |
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| 16:00.09 | beardy | jethro: You are probably not missing anything. I don't think it can be configured through update-alternatives. An alias is the best way probably, replacing symlinks can lead to things breaking. |
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| 16:00.12 | paulswm | Thanks LoRez :) |
| 16:00.21 | whitehorse1 | g |
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| 16:00.26 | jethro | beardy: one can always make it possible through alternatives I think |
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| 16:00.57 | jethro | beardy: even if it's not possible right now, it would just need a little adjustment :) |
| 16:01.03 | kristalino | paulswm, Ne peut évaluer par stat() /dev/hda3 --- Aucun fichier ou répertoire de ce type |
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| 16:01.12 | beardy | jethro: Well, you have to create the alternatives yourself. |
| 16:01.21 | jethro | kristalino: make sure you export LANG=C before pasting error messages here. or /j #debian-fr |
| 16:01.33 | Zap-W | so you seeeeeee |
| 16:01.45 | jethro | kristalino: it's not as if #debian regulars were supposed to be able to read french |
| 16:01.48 | SkArFaCe | i mean like fedora...mandrake...redhat...and im on demudi os |
| 16:01.54 | paulswm | kristalino: Then /dev/hda3 doesn't exist. Can you see it with fdisk -l /dev/hda ? |
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| 16:02.26 | jethro | beardy: exactly, and submit a patch to the maintainer ;) |
| 16:02.27 | blondie | SkArFaCe: this is a #debian channel |
| 16:02.31 | blondie | -# |
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| 16:03.06 | SkArFaCe | i didnt ask what channel this was |
| 16:03.13 | SkArFaCe | thanks though |
| 16:03.13 | blondie | SkArFaCe: are you using debian? |
| 16:03.30 | paulswm | kristalino: It should also show up with 'ls /dev/hda?' |
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| 16:03.48 | teufel | Could someone help me set up my proxy server? I'm using this guide http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm but it isn't working... the connection is not reaching my wireless router |
| 16:04.31 | beardy | jethro: Yeah. Things might depend on the older version of python though, and still create trouble if not choosen as default, but yes, that's the way to do it. |
| 16:04.41 | paulswm | laterz |
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| 16:05.11 | whitehorse1 | Can someone give me some pointers on removing (ALSA) modules, please? I had to install drivers via the ALSA site due to issues with the Debian-packaged versions running with my emu10k1x. I've inserted (modprobe) most've the modules barring snd_pcm_oss and snd_seq_oss. If I try /sbin/rmmod snd_pcm_oss I'm told it doesn't exist in /proc/modules and yet when I try to insert the modules having followed the ALSA installation guide for m |
| 16:05.11 | whitehorse1 | an unknown symbols/parameter error. I appreciate the problem is due to having conflicting versions of modules present ...:) I need help with removing the old ones though. Pretty please? [dmesg output: http://pastebin.ca/35027] [lsmod output: http://pastebin.ca/35028] |
| 16:05.33 | Rokyu_ | vchrizz: any luck? |
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| 16:05.47 | whitehorse1 | sorry. tad verbose. please overlook that fault in determining whether to help me. ~smiles sheepishly/hopefully~ |
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| 16:06.42 | whitehorse1 | Oh, also - my system is running udev. |
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| 16:07.46 | saloxin | whitehorse1: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/ and rm the troubling ones. you might want to put your shiny fresh below that tree as well |
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| 16:08.49 | whitehorse1 | saloxin: ty ty |
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| 16:11.35 | bkw | I tried to remove bootup processes like exim4,portmap using update-rc.d, but they are still running after a reboot. So what's the proper way of disabling them? |
| 16:11.41 | Eulex | umh... what to do if klogd uses 100% cpu by outputting 'usb 4-2: Device not present' to the log as much as it can? |
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| 16:12.20 | whitehorse1 | saloxin: Thanks, I appreciate it. Just to double check: once rm'd, is just "modprobe $modulename a safe & easy way to insert the new ones? and if so, will I need to apt get install --reinstall image-$uname -r as well once the modules are inserted in? |
| 16:12.33 | Eulex | ah, rmmod -f the offending module |
| 16:12.37 | saloxin | bkw: realitycheck with find /etc/rc* -name "*portmap*", and add -exec rm {}\; if you find something |
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| 16:13.15 | bkw | I did apt-get --purge |
| 16:13.41 | j0nas | j0nas |
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| 16:13.48 | j0nas | whops :D |
| 16:14.17 | sifi | are PC:s micro computers? |
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| 16:14.30 | j0nas | can someone tell me how to start mbmon in daemon mood and get it to work whit phpsysinfo? |
| 16:14.35 | stew | sifi: yes |
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| 16:14.42 | sifi | stew, ah |
| 16:14.44 | saloxin | whitehorse1: modprobe relies on depmod, which relies on files lying in the right place aka in that kernel tree. if you reinstall kernel-image the modules you deleted will magicly reappear |
| 16:15.10 | skamuz | hi there. can you help me with an installation on adaptec 7902 scsi raid1 |
| 16:15.16 | stew | its hardly magic :) |
| 16:15.21 | skamuz | is there any guru here? |
| 16:15.38 | beardy | skamuz: Just ask instead. |
| 16:15.43 | skamuz | ok :) |
| 16:16.22 | skamuz | i have created the raid array using the controller software in bios. it worked. i can only see the raid1 device when i boot. |
| 16:16.32 | LoRez | skamuz: then just install. |
| 16:16.48 | saloxin | skamuz: hah, i have one of those.. as far as I could figure out it's not proper hardware raid, you need a proprietary module from somewhere to make it work.. use them as software raid md instead |
| 16:17.19 | skamuz | when i boot the debian 3.1 cd it loads the module AIC-7902 but it stops at "disks partition" level |
| 16:17.27 | Eulex | hmm, that part of the kernel seems to have hung now -- or how bad sign is it when modprobing a module 'hungs' and I have to press ctrl-c? |
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| 16:17.59 | saloxin | eulex: bad sign like in brainsurgery gone wrong. |
| 16:18.00 | evilbulgarian | hi, rfc1918:DROP: IN=ppp0 OUT= MAC= SRC=71.16.76.218 DST=67.103.105.164 LEN=44 TOS=00 PREC=0x00 TTL=55 ID=8210 PROTO=TCP SPT=8245 DPT=80 SEQ=2889760928 ACK=0 WINDOW=24820 SYN URGP=0 just wondering why that is getting dropped i have norfc1918 in interfaces but that ip does not fall in that range? im using shorewall |
| 16:18.23 | skamuz | i don't want to use raid sw |
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| 16:18.39 | Eulex | saloxin, heheh |
| 16:18.42 | Eulex | brb, reboot |
| 16:18.57 | skamuz | can you help me? |
| 16:18.57 | saloxin | skamuz: here's the lspci of my troublesome card: 0000:08:07.0 SCSI storage controller: Adaptec AIC-7902B U320 (rev 10) |
| 16:19.13 | whitehorse1 | saloxin: Thanks again. Sorry to impose upon you once more. Does that mean then that when I upgrade to a newer kernel version (when one eventually enters the regular etch repository) that the deleted modules will re-appear at that point, too? Also, just checked the parent directory ie /lib/modules/, and it has 2 folders. One for my current kernel version (2.6.12-1-686) and one for the original: 2.6.8. But I de-installed the old one |
| 16:19.13 | whitehorse1 | to 2.6.12 via dpkg --purge --force-remove-essential kernel-image-NNN. Shouldn't that folder have been removed? Should I delete it now? |
| 16:19.14 | saloxin | it's truly crap |
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| 16:19.35 | skamuz | salozin, what shall i do? |
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| 16:19.55 | tr1gg3r | skamuz, linux kernel raid is usually better than any fake hardware raid (like onboard raid chipsets on most mbs) only real hardware raid would be better |
| 16:20.12 | whitehorse1 | skamuz: I guess they haven't fixed that installer bug with partman yet! |
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| 16:20.20 | stew | skamuz: if you don't want software raid you have to buy a hardware raid card. the card you have is not a hardware raid card |
| 16:20.31 | saloxin | skamuz: my advice is go for software raid, it works like a dream - set it up through the debian-installer. i tried to binary-only module, it gives load=1 wahtever, and you will always fear kernel upgrades |
| 16:20.35 | skamuz | no? |
| 16:20.48 | skamuz | it's sold as an raid card |
| 16:21.00 | skamuz | it's sold as a raid card |
| 16:21.01 | stew | skamuz: yes, but its fakeraid, it relies on the driver to do the raid in software |
| 16:21.14 | skamuz | no |
| 16:21.29 | skamuz | the raid is created with the bios sw |
| 16:21.30 | saloxin | whitehorse1: simply move it not-used directory out of the way |
| 16:21.39 | secher | dumb question of the day. I don't understand the man page for join, and I can't seem to get it to work. does it append file1 to the end of file2 or vice versa? and what is this whole "field" bit? |
| 16:21.41 | skamuz | so it's hw |
| 16:21.43 | whitehorse1 | saloxin ooh good idea. |
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| 16:21.48 | valdyn | skamuz: nonsense |
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| 16:22.01 | sep | skamuz, yes just like all the other fakeraid cards |
| 16:22.03 | skamuz | when i boot in bios i can create a raid1 |
| 16:22.03 | aalex | I am trying to connect to a new wireless network. I turned off encryption, changed the essid to the right one. The access point id has been correctly detected. What do I do now ? Firefox cant find any web pages still. (i use iwconfig) |
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| 16:22.31 | tr1gg3r | skamuz, yes but to use it u need the software, because all the bios does is tell the hw it is one device the sw actually writes the raid data |
| 16:22.32 | stew | skamuz: yeah this is the "fake" part of "fakeraid" |
| 16:22.37 | skamuz | this sounds like a raid hw to me. why are you telling it's fake. |
| 16:22.51 | valdyn | aalex: try running dhclient wlan0 ( or whatever your interface is called ) |
| 16:22.54 | deeLer | skamuz, software raid cards are pretty much ide controllers ... |
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| 16:23.12 | deeLer | skamuz, no raid power in the card whatsoever |
| 16:23.22 | tr1gg3r | skamuz, want a real raid card look up 3ware |
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| 16:23.57 | aalex | valdyn ; i will try dhclient eth1 |
| 16:23.59 | skamuz | i had this option but they told me to go with adaptec |
| 16:24.05 | sep | skamuz, you can usualy spot the fakeraid cards on the cheap price |
| 16:24.11 | valdyn | skamuz: ..3ware prices are what you can expect to pay for _real_ raid |
| 16:24.20 | llvllatrix | Hi. I'm trying to properly setup my sound card using alsa in debian stable. Problems currently are crackling while playing at higher volumes, no mixing, and unresolved symbols in some alsa modules. |
| 16:24.28 | secher | aalex: it's simple. what is your network configuration? are you using a dsl rouger as a gateway or do you have the accesspoint connected to a computer connected to your modem? |
| 16:24.30 | valdyn | skamuz: adaptec does sell real raid cards |
| 16:24.31 | llvllatrix | any advice? |
| 16:24.33 | aalex | valdyn : worked |
| 16:24.36 | dondelelcaro | ViViD: python2.4 is installed. That package that you're trying to install is broken, because it's depending on the wrong thing. Nothing particularly exciting there. |
| 16:24.54 | deeLer | skamuz, i'd go for 3ware |
| 16:24.55 | Eulex | llvllatrix, what sound card? |
| 16:24.58 | secher | aalex: or, you could just listen to valdyn. <grin> |
| 16:25.03 | llvllatrix | its and onboard sis card |
| 16:25.07 | skamuz | is there a way to make debian work with adaptec |
| 16:25.10 | aalex | secher ; well, it is a wifi network... |
| 16:25.15 | skamuz | as this is waht i have |
| 16:25.20 | llvllatrix | on an ECS 741GX-M board |
| 16:25.31 | valdyn | skamuz: adaptec sells a gazillion entirely unrelated things. |
| 16:25.40 | secher | Did I post my question about join? |
| 16:25.47 | valdyn | skamuz: so you just might to specify what exactly this is you are using |
| 16:26.17 | skamuz | debian 3.1 iso disk1 |
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| 16:26.20 | llvllatrix | SiS Sl7012 |
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| 16:26.29 | skamuz | adaptec 7902 u320 |
| 16:26.39 | beardy | secher: Look above. Yes you did. |
| 16:26.56 | llvllatrix | I've already tried using alsaconf but no luck |
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| 16:27.46 | secher | beardy: I just did that. fingers too lazy to move to mouse. <grin> |
| 16:28.11 | valdyn | skamuz: that's just a scsi controller |
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| 16:28.18 | stew | llvllatrix: what doesn "uname -r" say? |
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| 16:28.24 | skamuz | i have built the raid1 array with adaptec card software |
| 16:29.00 | skamuz | when i boot i don't see 2 disks |
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| 16:29.04 | llvllatrix | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 16:29.04 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, im the man, i figured it out |
| 16:29.08 | skamuz | i see only the raid as hw |
| 16:29.15 | valdyn | skamuz: does linux see 2 disks? |
| 16:29.15 | llvllatrix | I should probably upgrade to 2.6 |
| 16:29.27 | skamuz | no |
| 16:29.38 | skamuz | i have only a raid device |
| 16:29.46 | skamuz | that linux does not find |
| 16:29.51 | valdyn | skamuz: so your controller includes a ICP8500 ? |
| 16:29.59 | ViViD | dondelelcaro, the .deb doesnt work, because python-xdg doesnt install to 2.4, need to make a python2.4-xdg package, so i used the tar.gz and forced install of smeg, then copied the xdg directory over |
| 16:30.06 | skamuz | where shall i check |
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| 16:30.32 | valdyn | skamuz: no idea, i dont know this thing, just googling.. sec |
| 16:31.06 | skamuz | i have seen people on google with similar problems |
| 16:31.11 | skamuz | with no solutions |
| 16:31.19 | g3brown | Going to use Debian 3.1 (Sarge) as a fileserver with 1.2 TB of RAID5. What would be best filesystem to use? ext3? |
| 16:31.45 | g3brown | I was worried the drive will become fragmented over time (couple of years). |
| 16:31.51 | beardy | secher: What kind of files do you want to join? join seems to be a that operates on files formatted in special ways. |
| 16:31.59 | deeLer | i use ext3 ... on a 2.1 TB ... no problem g3brown |
| 16:32.00 | skamuz | i made the raid as bootable can this create problems |
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| 16:32.11 | skamuz | just guessing |
| 16:32.18 | saloxin | skamuz, valdyn: when i found this I went for software raid: http://lkml.org/lkml/2005/5/30/201 |
| 16:32.55 | g3brown | deeLer: What about fragmentation. That ever an issue? |
| 16:33.03 | beardy | g3brown: Probably. There exists defragmenation programs for ext2/3, I don't know if they work well, or at all. I don't think they are needed. |
| 16:33.12 | valdyn | skamuz: no |
| 16:33.42 | valdyn | skamuz: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 16:34.03 | skamuz | ? |
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| 16:34.11 | valdyn | skamuz: i havent verified this, but i think this controller just might need a newer kernel to be supported |
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| 16:34.25 | stew | !defrag |
| 16:34.25 | dpkg | defrag is, like, the best windows screensaver, or what windows users do for emotional satisfaction when the frequency of illegal operations and bluescreens has become too big |
| 16:34.25 | kristalino | jethro, i translated the message before pasting, but paulwsm would like to see the original message |
| 16:34.25 | kristalino | then ... ! |
| 16:34.28 | skamuz | i tried to boot with linux26 |
| 16:34.35 | skamuz | no luck |
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| 16:34.53 | gb | luck? |
| 16:34.55 | secher | beardy: that's what It looked like, but I was told otherwise. I've got a video of a physics lecture I want to put onto 1 dvd versus 3 cds. |
| 16:35.02 | skamuz | saloxin, do you trust them |
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| 16:35.24 | secher | beardy: I was thinking about just catting them together. |
| 16:36.00 | whitehorse1 | Now when I try to insert the modules (snd-seq-oss and snd-pcm-oss were the problem ones) via modprobe snd-emu10k1x;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss, having removed the modules from /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/sound/ as advised I get FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko': No such file or directory (ditto for snd-seq-oss). :-( |
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| 16:36.18 | jethro | kristalino: if you use LANG=C you don't have to translate yourself. I believe the ttranslation was inacurate, that's why paulswm asked. |
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| 16:37.00 | beardy | secher: Which format are these movies? |
| 16:37.07 | secher | beardy: avi |
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| 16:37.38 | skamuz | it loads the module for the adaptec card |
| 16:37.40 | secher | beardy: seriously, they're not "movies". |
| 16:37.46 | saloxin | skamuz: it's worth trying out valdyn's idea - try latest and greatest kernel /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 16:38.05 | beardy | secher: That has headers, and can't just be cat:ed together, right? But an ugly thing could be to cat them together, and let mplayer rebuild the index of the file. |
| 16:38.08 | skamuz | so why the device is "not found" |
| 16:38.15 | kristalino | jethro, good remark :) |
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| 16:38.35 | skamuz | it loads module aic79** for Adaptec AIC-7902 |
| 16:38.42 | beardy | secher: WHat are they then? |
| 16:38.48 | skamuz | in theory it should read it |
| 16:38.50 | jethro | kristalino: ;) |
| 16:38.55 | skamuz | or there is a bug |
| 16:39.17 | valdyn | skamuz: so did you try the newer kernel yet? |
| 16:39.23 | secher | beardy: Hrm. I can try that. it's a physics lecture.. it's a movie in the strict sense, but not a "movie", a la Star Wars. |
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| 16:39.41 | beardy | secher: Well, why does that matter? |
| 16:40.07 | secher | beardy: just a guilty conscience I guess.. <grin> it does not matter technically. |
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| 16:40.49 | skamuz | yes i tried linux26 on a cd that i downloaded yesterday - the same! |
| 16:41.00 | secher | beardy: Ok, lemme try that and see what happens. Thanks for the assistance. |
| 16:41.13 | beardy | secher: No problem, good luck. |
| 16:41.14 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 16:41.14 | dpkg | methinks sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 16:41.18 | novota_deb | hai |
| 16:41.21 | novota_deb | hy |
| 16:41.23 | valdyn | skamuz: ^^^ |
| 16:41.23 | novota_deb | heeh |
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| 16:41.31 | beardy | secher: Only work on copies though. |
| 16:42.12 | valdyn | skamuz: you didnt give me the product name btw, only the chip ( which seems to be AIC-7902 ) |
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| 16:43.35 | skamuz | Product name is Adaptec 7902W SCSI ULTRA 320 2 CHANNELS HOST RAID |
| 16:43.50 | skamuz | is this what you need |
| 16:44.20 | valdyn | skamuz: nope, adaptec doesnt sell such a thing, maybe that is an onboard adapter and the mainboard vendor calls it that? |
| 16:44.37 | bibe | whitehorse1 : did you do a 'modprobe -ae' after manually removing the modules? |
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| 16:45.07 | whitehorse1 | bibe no, I should presumably try that now yes? |
| 16:45.31 | skamuz | and there is an integrated intel ICH5R SATA Raid 2 ports |
| 16:45.48 | whitehorse1 | I did run update-modules though. Honesty obliges me to mention I wasn't quite sure what it did if anything. Anyway, will modprobe -ae right now. |
| 16:45.48 | skamuz | i don't know where to look for the right names |
| 16:45.53 | bibe | whitehorse1 : you shouldn't _never_ manually remove any module, but compile and install a new kernel/new module instead |
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| 16:46.49 | bibe | whitehorse1 : how did you compile the new modules? using module-assistant? |
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| 16:47.08 | whitehorse1 | bibe Compiling a new kernel is overkill/over-my-head for me as I'm really just trying to get ALSA working (having had to restort to downloading the drivers from their site rather than Debian's packaged ones due to probs). |
| 16:47.27 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 16:47.27 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
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| 16:47.34 | valdyn | skamuz: try ^^ |
| 16:47.37 | nvz | whitehorse1: use a 2.6 kernel image |
| 16:47.41 | beardy | !alsa 2.6 |
| 16:47.41 | dpkg | On Sarge with a 2.6 kernel, to use ALSA, apt-get install alsa-utils discover1. You may need to run alsaconf too. No more faffing about with OSS modules. Remember to tell your applications and libraries to use alsa, to get any benefit. |
| 16:47.45 | valdyn | skamuz: that will assume the latest kernel i think |
| 16:48.05 | whitehorse1 | bibe Er well I think they kind've came in the packages from the website alsa-driver/utils/lib (configure'd made, installed) |
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| 16:48.18 | whitehorse1 | bibe Was working from this guide basically (its for my card) |
| 16:48.25 | whitehorse1 | http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Creative+Labs&card=Sound+Blaster+PCI+X+%28Dell+OEM%29.&chip=SB0200&module=emu10k1x#opt |
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| 16:49.30 | saintiss | hi |
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| 16:49.45 | ilred | hi to all |
| 16:49.47 | whitehorse1 | nvz I am ;) 2.6.12-1-686. Debian's packaged drivers for some reason simply didn't work for my Dell OEM emu10k1x card. Hence the Alsa download. :/ |
| 16:49.57 | saintiss | if I want to modify one kernel module, do I have to recompile the whole kernel by getting apt-get source linux-image, or is there a shorter way? |
| 16:50.02 | whitehorse1 | Also I'm using udev. |
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| 16:50.35 | yang | IF I want to patch debian kernel, i must download kernel-source-2.6.8 and recompile? |
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| 16:51.00 | nvz | saintiss: if you have the kernel headers you can compile just one module |
| 16:51.22 | whitehorse1 | It should've worked. That's by the by though as it didn't, sadly. Perhaps when I eventually get it sorted I'll be able to determine why I had probs and submit a bugreport via BTS. That's a while off tho. |
| 16:51.46 | saintiss | nvz: ok, I do have the kernel-headers package installed... do you mean I should still apt-get source linux-image, and go to the relevant dir and just make there? |
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| 16:51.51 | sohmestra | is there a way to define custom url handlers in KDE? |
| 16:52.03 | nvz | yang: yes, you will also need build-essential kernel-package fakeroot and possibly libncurses5-dev (for menuconfig) and bzip2 |
| 16:52.24 | nvz | saintiss: thats not even a valid command |
| 16:52.25 | yang | nvz: thanks |
| 16:52.31 | nvz | you dont use apt-get source for that |
| 16:52.32 | sohmestra | ie. vnc://foobar gets handled by vncviewer |
| 16:52.33 | ilred | i've aproblem: sid, fglrx, xine (kaffeine), my system is unable to use xv (xvinfo: no adaptors present) |
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| 16:52.55 | saintiss | nvz: you don't? then what should I use instead? |
| 16:53.09 | nvz | saintiss: apt-get install |
| 16:53.45 | saintiss | nvz: yes, but to download the sources I need apt-get source, no? |
| 16:53.53 | nvz | saintiss: no |
| 16:54.00 | gb | nvz: not aptitude install ? :) |
| 16:54.00 | cahoot | yes? |
| 16:54.20 | saintiss | nvz: ok, there seems to be a package kernel-source... you mean I should install that one? |
| 16:54.30 | gb | in theory it'll grab most of whats needed then |
| 16:54.31 | nvz | saintiss: *nod* |
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| 16:54.59 | saintiss | nvz: ok, and then just go to the relevant dir and "make" will do? |
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| 16:55.39 | nvz | saintiss: apt-get install kernel-package build-essential fakeroot libncurses5-dev bzip2 kernel-source... |
| 16:55.40 | cahoot | nvz: might want to look at man apt-get |
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| 16:55.52 | nvz | cahoot: you might want to look at the channel |
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| 16:56.41 | saintiss | nvz: ok, I've got those... I suppose you want to hint "make" will NOT do the job? |
| 16:56.47 | whitehorse1 | so basically I can't use the alsa package(s) in the etch repository because of it failing to work with the oem emu10k1x as opposed to the cr. labs emu10k1 which it may well work with. incidentally, modprobe -ae is an invalid option here |
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| 16:57.04 | stouset | saintiss: make will do the job, poorly. |
| 16:57.08 | nvz | saintiss: no, make-kpkg --rootcmd=fakeroot --config=menuconfig buildpackage |
| 16:57.11 | nvz | saintiss: or something |
| 16:57.19 | nvz | saintiss: you do that as your user, not root |
| 16:57.54 | stouset | saintiss: make-kpkg will generate an actual Debian package, assuming you care about silly things like package management and dependency resolution... |
| 16:58.01 | gb | nvz: theoretically you can do it safely as root too :) |
| 16:58.09 | hawking | what does this mean? /dev/dsp-1: is busy |
| 16:58.18 | nvz | saintiss: build package makes clean, and also binary targets (debs for kernel image, sources, docs, and headers) |
| 16:58.22 | stouset | gb: Theoretically, rm can be used safely as root :) |
| 16:58.28 | saintiss | stouset: right, but I just want to rebuild one particular module... are you saying it's going to make a separate package for that module now? |
| 16:58.44 | nvz | gb: umm no.. it defeats teh purpose of safegaurding you from hosing your system |
| 16:58.49 | stouset | saintiss: No, it will rebuild the entire kernel and make a package out of it. |
| 16:59.12 | skamuz | in other words can we explane why the driver/mopdule is found but debian cannot be installed on the raid device |
| 16:59.19 | K9-Cop | I've been on 3.1 stable for a few months now. When I did an 'apt-get upgrade' today I noticed I was downloading/setting up the kernel-image and kernel-source pacakges. Do I need to recompile/configure the kernel? |
| 16:59.22 | hawking | what does this mean? /dev/dsp-1: is busy |
| 16:59.24 | saintiss | stouset: hmm, that was my question in the first place... so even if I want to rebuild only one module, I'll have to rebuild the whole kernel? |
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| 16:59.52 | saintiss | nvz: right, but how is that better than downloading the source pkg of the kernel and just doing ./debian/rules binary? |
| 16:59.55 | nvz | saintiss: to rebuild one module you only need kernel-headers package and module-assistant |
| 16:59.57 | stouset | saintiss: Well, it's theoretically possible to only rebuild one module, but there's no real infrastructure or scripting in place to do it for you. |
| 17:00.10 | nvz | saintiss: there is no source of the package, and this is the way we do it |
| 17:00.36 | stouset | saintiss: Wait, are you talking about rebuilding a module that comes stock with the kernel, or an external module? |
| 17:00.45 | gb | nvz: yup but fakeroot shouldn't hose the system & as long as your not building in a directory thats sensitive to you building a kernel it shouldn't matter |
| 17:00.50 | ma3x | how do I clean the queue in postfix? |
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| 17:01.15 | nvz | gb: fakeroot and the cwd have nothing to do with running things as root |
| 17:01.20 | stouset | ma3x: postqueue -f, I think. |
| 17:01.24 | nvz | gb: you are missing the point entirely |
| 17:01.30 | gb | nvz: yup I know that |
| 17:01.38 | mzilikazi64 | i've ripped several .wav files from a DVD, trying to figure out flac tagging before encoding to flac - man metaflac has not helped much (if any) - ideas? |
| 17:01.41 | saintiss | nvz: hmm, I'm confused now, because I did apt-get source linux-image-2.6.1-686-smp and it definitely delivered linux-2.6_2.6.12.orig.tar.gz among others |
| 17:01.49 | saintiss | stouset: rebuilding a module that comes stock with the kernel |
| 17:01.53 | ma3x | stouset, that's to deliver them. but I want to erase it |
| 17:01.57 | stouset | saintiss: Ack, no no no. |
| 17:02.04 | stouset | saintiss: get the kernel-source package. |
| 17:02.18 | gb | nope the point of fake root is too build the package with the correct internal permissions for when extracted as a privledge user, is that not the point? |
| 17:02.33 | saintiss | stouset: yeah, that's what nvz says too, but I wanted to know why that is better than apt-get source'ing the kernel package |
| 17:02.41 | nvz | saintiss: you are confused because you are not listening and doing what I told you. |
| 17:02.48 | gb | theoretically any user can do that then |
| 17:02.56 | stouset | saintiss: And yeah, you'll have to rebuild the whole kernel just to recompile that one module. It's possible to recompile just the module, but like I said, it's not something many (if any) people need to do, so there's no real scripting support for it. |
| 17:02.59 | nvz | saintiss: you have to use the same headers/source your running kernel is using |
| 17:03.04 | saintiss | nvz: you say I can do it with only kernel-headers and module-assistant, perfect :) |
| 17:03.07 | stouset | saintiss: Might I ask *why* you need to recompile a module? |
| 17:03.08 | mpoer | anyone have a good tutorial for recompiling kernel (pref version 2.6.12-386) |
| 17:03.26 | stouset | saintiss: You can't do it with module-assistant. nvz was thinking of something else: compiling a module not packaged with the kernel. |
| 17:03.29 | nvz | saintiss: that all depends on if the module in question is in the kernel or 3rd party |
| 17:03.39 | stew | mpoer: start with /msg dpkg kp |
| 17:03.57 | saintiss | nvz: the module is in the kernel, and the kernel I'm running is from apt, so I would guess the sources I get from apt would be the right ones |
| 17:04.06 | Otmenych | hi, all. Who are using etch? I have big problem with rendering truetype fonts in X and gtk+ applications |
| 17:04.10 | teufel | I have a shell script with iptables set up and two network cards on my proxy server. I *think* I have everything set up right in /etc/network/interfaces but the stuff on the other end isn't getting internet <sigh> |
| 17:04.13 | saintiss | stouset: well, it's a tvcard module and I want to try to add remote support for mine |
| 17:04.15 | nvz | saintiss: yeah the kernel-sources you _install_ from apt |
| 17:04.44 | mpoer | thanks stew, that looks like a good start |
| 17:04.45 | nvz | saintiss: apt-get source isnt the same as apt-get install different repos, one is binary the other is source. |
| 17:04.46 | whitehorse1 | 0tmenych I am. Try /msg dpkg fonts , for some resources |
| 17:05.04 | nvz | often the source packages in this case dont have the patches |
| 17:05.14 | stouset | saintiss: Good luck :P |
| 17:05.15 | saintiss | nvz: yes, but I always thought the binary ones were compiled from the source ones |
| 17:05.21 | saintiss | nvz: ah, ic... |
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| 17:05.49 | nvz | saintiss: compiling vanilla source and using the exact source the kernel package maintainer used is 4 different things |
| 17:05.55 | Otmenych | they looks ugly, but in qt and gtk2 all ok |
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| 17:06.06 | nvz | saintiss: read up on kernel-package.. its the all-in-wonder kernel tool |
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| 17:06.23 | nvz | they are patched and compiled into packages all in one commandline |
| 17:06.38 | goccia | secher: teufel ip_forward=yes in /etc/network/options |
| 17:06.57 | goccia | ops |
| 17:06.59 | saintiss | nvz: ic... and will it help me to rebuild the one module as well? |
| 17:07.01 | goccia | teufel: :) |
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| 17:07.13 | whitehorse1 | 0tmenych: http://linuxgazette.net/issue96/adam.html |
| 17:07.13 | secher | goccia: Yes, I know. <grin> |
| 17:07.15 | lawnchair | testicle |
| 17:07.20 | nvz | saintiss: you cannot rebuild one module when its part of the kernel already |
| 17:07.21 | goccia | secher: hihihi :) |
| 17:07.25 | teufel | goccia: OMFG... if thats all I was missing after like 4 hours of trying to figure this out... <sigh> |
| 17:07.43 | K9-Cop | teufel: just be glad you may have the answer, lol |
| 17:07.49 | goccia | teufel: it is a banana skin well known :) |
| 17:07.55 | saintiss | nvz: well, it's not built-in, it's a module, because there is a *.ko file in /lib/modules |
| 17:08.06 | saintiss | but it was included in the kernel package |
| 17:08.11 | teufel | K9-Cop: I am, if thats it hehe... thank you goccia, will try it |
| 17:08.18 | K9-Cop | I've been on 3.1 stable for a few months now. When I did an 'apt-get upgrade' today I noticed I was downloading/setting up the kernel-image and kernel-source pacakges. Do I need to recompile the kernel? |
| 17:08.18 | nvz | saintiss: I have no idea |
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| 17:08.42 | saintiss | nvz: ok, thanks for the help |
| 17:09.07 | nvz | K9-Cop: no |
| 17:09.56 | stouset | K9-Cop: No. |
| 17:10.08 | nvz | K9-Cop: something else you installed pulled in the kernel-source. if you selected it for removal, it woudl also try to remove what installed it |
| 17:10.08 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 17:10.08 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 17:10.14 | valdyn | teufel: ^^^ |
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| 17:10.49 | teufel | valdyn: I have ipmasq installed... it didn't really do anything =/ |
| 17:11.18 | whitehorse1 | When trying to insert snd-seq-oss + snd-pcm-oss modules, via modprobe snd-emu10k1x;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss, having rm'd the modules from /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686/kernel/sound/ as advised HERE I get FATAL: Could not open '/lib/modules/...oss/snd-pcm-oss.ko': No such file or dir. :/ |
| 17:11.19 | valdyn | teufel: if adding setting up NAT is nothing |
| 17:11.28 | valdyn | teufel: if adding / setting up NAT is nothing |
| 17:11.50 | teufel | valdyn: I must just be stupid then, I've read 3 guides and it still isn't working |
| 17:11.55 | whitehorse1 | p.s. I am using a 2.6 kernel, the debian packaged alsa stuff for etch failed to work with my emu10k1x hence the alsa.org download |
| 17:11.56 | stouset | whitehorse1: Um, why again did you rm modules? |
| 17:12.11 | K9-Cop | nvz: I see. Will I know if/when debian stable wants to go to a new version of the kernel? |
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| 17:12.12 | stouset | whitehorse1: And why do you expect to be able to find modules after they've been manually removed? :\ |
| 17:12.26 | mirak_ | hello, at wich point the .bashrc is loaded when opening a shell ? |
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| 17:12.30 | whitehorse1 | stouset: because [16:07:46] <saloxin> whitehorse1: cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/ and rm the troubling ones. you might want to put your shiny fresh below that tree as well |
| 17:12.33 | nvz | K9-Cop: the kernel-image _is_ a new kernel |
| 17:12.42 | unsolo | rmmod not rm |
| 17:12.43 | nvz | K9-Cop: you've likely already started using it |
| 17:12.50 | valdyn | teufel: yea well, adding NAT is at most a 2-liner ), but i dont know these 2 lines off the top of my head either |
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| 17:13.08 | teufel | valdyn: Am I sposed to change something in /etc/ipmasq ? |
| 17:13.16 | whitehorse1 | stouset: I want to insert them via modprobe $modulename. I couldn't before because when I tried I got invalid parameter/version errors; due to having older versions around I guess. |
| 17:13.20 | K9-Cop | nvz: oh, so it auto-sets it up, using my current kernel configuration |
| 17:13.22 | stouset | whitehorse1: Reinstall the kernel package. |
| 17:13.29 | nvz | K9-Cop: it upgrades them automatically when new patches are available and reconfigures your bootloader so when you reboot it boots the new one |
| 17:13.37 | valdyn | teufel: i dont know, i use shorewall, that is alot more sophisticated.. |
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| 17:13.45 | stew | !wikifaq mirak_ DotFiles |
| 17:13.45 | dpkg | mirak_: check out http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/DotFiles or if that doesn't work, try http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 17:13.50 | stouset | whitehorse1: dpkg --purge it, remove the /lib/modules/`uname -a` directory, since it'll probably have the extra non-package-managed stuff you dumped in there, and reinstall it |
| 17:13.53 | K9-Cop | nvz: cool, I knew picking Debian was a good choice, lol |
| 17:13.57 | nvz | K9-Cop: no, debian kernel images come pre-configured to use initrd |
| 17:13.57 | whitehorse1 | stouset: I did that yesterday, surely it'll just reinsert the old ones? |
| 17:14.00 | whitehorse1 | [16:14:44] <saloxin> whitehorse1: modprobe relies on depmod, which relies on files lying in the right place aka in that kernel tree. if you reinstall kernel-image the modules you deleted will magicly reappear |
| 17:14.28 | teufel | valdyn: I bet... I just want to get the other computers internet access right now though. Could I ask you some questions in PM or want me to just say here? (if you want to answer that is ;) ) |
| 17:14.47 | nvz | K9-Cop: pretty much everything is compiled as a module and autoprobed using detect modules or hotplug, discover..etc |
| 17:14.53 | whitehorse1 | stouset: you mean by reinstall you're suggesting in the first instance that I try again with the debian repository alsa packages yes? |
| 17:14.56 | valdyn | teufel: no, not like that. Please paste the output of route -n from one of your clients |
| 17:15.12 | mirak_ | steri: ok |
| 17:15.14 | stouset | whitehorse1: That's exactly what you should be trying to accomplish :P Generally, it's preferable to get things back to a semi-reasonable state, even if it's a broken state (as long as it's less-broken than what you've currently got) before trying the next solution. |
| 17:15.16 | mirak_ | stew: ok |
| 17:15.21 | valdyn | teufel: say things here in any case, im not neccessarily the most competent person for everything ;) |
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| 17:15.41 | whitehorse1 | stouset: ok will proceed :) |
| 17:15.42 | teufel | is there a way to copy/paste from the terminal? |
| 17:15.45 | stouset | whitehorse1: I'd suggest that manually rm'ing a bunch of kernel modules constitutes a reasonably broken state. |
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| 17:16.09 | Garda | anyone here use Konversation? |
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| 17:16.20 | stouset | whitehorse1: It's also a sad truth that it's very unlikely the alsa.org modules will help you any if the ones from the stock kernel don't. It's certainly possible, but I've never seen it. |
| 17:16.21 | phaedrus_ | hey hey |
| 17:16.25 | nvz | I wouldnt, cause its spelled wrong |
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| 17:16.33 | phaedrus_ | anyone wanna help me sort out this error i get when i do make oldconfig |
| 17:16.34 | phaedrus_ | ? |
| 17:16.35 | valdyn | teufel: with screen yea |
| 17:16.44 | stouset | whitehorse1: except, of course, in cases where support was added. |
| 17:16.46 | teufel | valdyn: ok route -n gives me 3 lines: eth1 has destination 192.168.5.0 / gateway 0.0.0.0 / Genmask 255.255.255.0 /flags U |
| 17:16.58 | Garda | nvz: was that do me. lol |
| 17:17.19 | valdyn | teufel: i need the line for the destination 0.0.0.0 |
| 17:17.19 | Garda | that's the most retarded thing i've heard |
| 17:17.21 | teufel | valdyn: first eth0 gives me: destination 24.9.200.0 / gateway 0.0.0.0 / genmask 255.255.248.0 / flags U |
| 17:17.23 | nvz | dpkg, yinzersmite Garda |
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| 17:17.45 | teufel | valdyn: ah, that one is: gateway 24.9.200.1/ genmask 0.0.0.0 / flags UG / eth0 |
| 17:17.45 | stouset | yinzersmite? :P |
| 17:18.27 | nvz | yes, yinzersmite. |
| 17:18.31 | stouset | I...see. |
| 17:18.34 | stouset | *blinks twice* |
| 17:18.35 | Garda | #konverstation |
| 17:18.43 | valdyn | teufel: why does your gateway have an internet IP? |
| 17:18.52 | Garda | oops |
| 17:19.02 | teufel | valdyn: hell if I know... |
| 17:19.10 | Garda | wtf is yinzersmite |
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| 17:19.25 | teufel | valdyn: should it just be 0.0.0.0 ? |
| 17:19.36 | nvz | its a smite in true yinzer fashion |
| 17:19.47 | valdyn | teufel: your local net should have adresses inside 192.168.x.x or any other non-internet IPs |
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| 17:19.58 | Garda | sorry about the 20 questions. but now what is yinzer |
| 17:20.17 | nvz | http://www.pittsburghese.com/ |
| 17:20.21 | teufel | valdyn: yeah, I have my eth1 set at 192.168.5.1 (which is my internal network) |
| 17:20.24 | nvz | lern to talk right innat |
| 17:20.41 | teufel | valdyn: eth0 is dhcp |
| 17:20.47 | valdyn | teufel: i wanted to route -n from your _clients_ |
| 17:20.54 | valdyn | teufel: not from your gateway |
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| 17:21.58 | whitehorse1 | stouset and others : should I definitely proceed with purge? You are running a kernel (version 2.6.12-1-686) and attempting to remove |
| 17:21.58 | whitehorse1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:22.09 | whitehorse1 | was the er warning msg :> |
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| 17:22.45 | teufel | valdyn: ok, the route -n from a client is 192.168.1.1 (which is my routers address) |
| 17:22.50 | Garda | get stuffed. no one in pittsburg speaks another dialect. i bet this is some shit you tell people, like when we tell dumb americans we go around in kangaroo pouches |
| 17:23.12 | nvz | heh |
| 17:23.15 | whitehorse1 | I will be reinstalling the linux image after it completes. Jst wanted to get some verification before I go past point of no return due to the 2 paragraph warning ;) |
| 17:23.24 | nvz | you apperently never been to Picksburgh |
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| 17:23.30 | valdyn | teufel: for the destination 0.0.0.0 ? |
| 17:23.44 | teufel | yes |
| 17:23.51 | teufel | valdyn: yep, on one of the clients |
| 17:24.00 | valdyn | teufel: i'd much rather see the complete output or im left guessing or blindly assuming your setup is correct |
| 17:24.26 | stew | teufel: 192.168.1.1? i thought you said 192.168.5.1 before? |
| 17:24.41 | valdyn | indeed |
| 17:24.42 | nvz | thats his story, and he's not sticking to it |
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| 17:25.07 | whitehorse1 | ...it continues "/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-686 be removed, making it impossible to boot it, will also remove all modules under directory /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-686. Just having copy of kernel image is not enough, you'll have to replace the modules too.". So should I proceed? :-S |
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| 17:25.37 | stew | whitehorse1: you are trying to remove the running kernel? why? |
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| 17:25.49 | nvz | suicide. |
| 17:26.00 | aaronlin | what is the smallest instant messaging program that I can find that will support AIM, IRC and GoogleTalk? |
| 17:26.00 | teufel | stew: 192.168.5.1 is the proxy servers internal address.... that goes to my wireless router that starts a new network at 192.168.1.100 valdyn |
| 17:26.18 | nvz | aaronlin: irssi + bitlbee ? |
| 17:26.26 | whitehorse1 | stew per above comment by stouset - I'll paste |
| 17:26.31 | aaronlin | nvz: is there an all-in-one program out there? |
| 17:26.39 | nvz | aaronlin: gaim maybe |
| 17:26.47 | teufel | stew: valdyn: maybe it's my router that's not working correctly? |
| 17:26.49 | aaronlin | Also, I am looking for the smallest graphical web browser...all I really need is HTML support |
| 17:26.52 | valdyn | teufel: why cant you paste the complete output of route -n |
| 17:26.54 | aaronlin | don't even need frames/tables |
| 17:27.06 | Garda | someone want to do a version check on my irc client |
| 17:27.10 | aaronlin | nvz: do you know about any thing smaller than gaim? |
| 17:27.13 | teufel | valdyn: because it's on a different computer |
| 17:27.19 | stew | so this client is not trying to talk to the router whose routing table you had described to us above? |
| 17:27.22 | nvz | aaronlin: apt-cache search ffs? |
| 17:27.23 | teufel | valdyn: I'm on the proxy server computer right now |
| 17:27.30 | valdyn | teufel: and you cannot use ssh? |
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| 17:27.46 | whitehorse1 | stew: (and nvz - heh) [17:13:50] <stouset> whitehorse1: dpkg --purge it, remove the /lib/modules/`uname -a` directory, since it'll probably have the extra non-package-managed stuff you dumped in there, and reinstall it. || [17:15:44] <stouset> whitehorse1: I'd suggest that manually rm'ing a bunch of kernel modules constitutes a reasonably broken state. (I'd rm'd items based on earlier advice) |
| 17:27.58 | teufel | valdyn: no because remember the computers aren't connected at all, otherwise I wouldn't have a problem |
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| 17:28.15 | aaronlin | ffs? |
| 17:28.19 | whitehorse1 | I've got to do something! :-( |
| 17:28.19 | stew | whitehorse1: you are trying to get alsa modules working? |
| 17:28.26 | nvz | !ffs |
| 17:28.27 | dpkg | well, ffs is for fuck's sake, or for fine's sake. UCB's Fast File System, or for fearl's sake, or forgetfearl syndrome, or for Fooz' sake |
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| 17:28.41 | stew | whitehorse1: and in order to get them working, you are removing your running kernel entirely? this doesn't seem like a good idea |
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| 17:28.59 | whitehorse1 | stew: Yes. But in terms of downloads from the ALSA site, after the Debian repository ones didn't work. Yeah, it seems dangerous to me too. |
| 17:29.02 | yaniv | Hi... I use netcat with the parameters ( -l -p port ) and after that someone connects and disconnect, the program is terminated. Can someone please tell me how to avoid it? man nc didn't help me |
| 17:29.05 | valdyn | teufel: somehow i doubt your wireless 'router' even supports such a setup |
| 17:29.08 | whitehorse1 | A pox on my OEM card. |
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| 17:29.44 | teufel | valdyn: why? |
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| 17:29.50 | phaedrus_ | bah im getting errors trying to compile |
| 17:30.03 | phaedrus_ | anyone help!!!...please!! im sinking |
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| 17:30.47 | stouset | phaedrus_: Why are you compiling, anyways? |
| 17:30.54 | aaronlin | wow, ELinks is an awesome browser |
| 17:31.08 | phaedrus_ | i want to set stacks to disable 4k |
| 17:31.29 | phaedrus_ | and put together a lean mean os |
| 17:31.40 | whitehorse1 | stew: I was following instructions for my card on alsa site http://tinyurl.com/9teuh . I'd reached the modprobe part and most inserted okay bar snd-seq/pcm-oss - due to invalid symbols/parameters. An old version knocking around or something. Advice here was "cd /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/sound/ and rm the troubling ones" |
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| 17:31.52 | ansong | does the sudo command cache your credentials between boots? |
| 17:31.53 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 17:31.53 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
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| 17:32.06 | valdyn | teufel: so your client cant even access your proxy? |
| 17:32.06 | stouset | phaedrus_: Right. And why is that? |
| 17:32.15 | phaedrus_ | oh |
| 17:32.17 | teufel | valdyn: no... |
| 17:32.20 | valdyn | teufel: the 'why' would take me to long. |
| 17:32.24 | SNow | hello there, when i Trie to start proftpd, I get this error message: Address family not supported by protocol proftpd (this is proftpd daemon) |
| 17:32.30 | phaedrus_ | so the windows driver im using for my 802.11g works better |
| 17:32.41 | stouset | phaedrus_: Which card? |
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| 17:32.57 | beardy | whitehorse1: And it smiles back at you. |
| 17:33.00 | valdyn | teufel: ok, as i understant it 192.168.5.1<->wireless thing<->clients |
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| 17:33.12 | SNow | any ideas? |
| 17:33.13 | teufel | valdyn: yes |
| 17:33.14 | whitehorse1 | beardy somewhat sardonically ;) |
| 17:33.15 | SNow | hello there, when i Trie to start proftpd, I get this error message: Address family not supported by protocol proftpd (this is proftpd daemon) |
| 17:33.17 | phaedrus_ | us robotics 5422 |
| 17:33.20 | phaedrus_ | usb |
| 17:33.25 | phaedrus_ | with ndiswrapper |
| 17:33.33 | grumpydog | ifconfig |
| 17:33.36 | valdyn | teufel: your wireless thing is not doing what you are asking from it, and i _doubt_ that its even able to connect 2 subnets like this |
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| 17:33.53 | stouset | phaedrus_: The only thing I see with regards to 4k stack sizes has to do with Fedora. |
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| 17:33.57 | valdyn | teufel: sooo, why arent they all in the same subnet? |
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| 17:34.13 | whitehorse1 | stew so do you suggest apt get in... --reinst linux-image$uname again then? :/ :/ |
| 17:34.15 | phaedrus_ | oh |
| 17:34.21 | phaedrus_ | any ideas for me than? |
| 17:34.23 | phaedrus_ | lol |
| 17:34.31 | teufel | valdyn: I dont know... the subnet is the 192.168.5.~ part right? 0 to 255? |
| 17:34.37 | saintiss | ok, one more question: if I want to recompile the kernel by first installing kernel-source, can I skip make xconfig if I just want the config which was default for the debian pkg? |
| 17:34.39 | phaedrus_ | the card crashes between 10 and 20 minutes of use |
| 17:34.44 | valdyn | teufel: yea, in your case |
| 17:34.44 | stew | whitehorse1: did the alsa install replace some modules? do you have duplicates? |
| 17:34.57 | valdyn | teufel: what's the IPs of your wireless router? |
| 17:35.00 | stouset | phaedrus_: You have yet to say what the problem is. |
| 17:35.03 | stouset | phaedrus_: Ah. |
| 17:35.06 | phaedrus_ | root@6[linux]# make oldconfig |
| 17:35.07 | phaedrus_ | /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory |
| 17:35.07 | phaedrus_ | make[1]: scripts/Makefile.build: No such file or directory |
| 17:35.07 | phaedrus_ | make[1]: *** No rule to make target `scripts/Makefile.build'. Stop. |
| 17:35.07 | phaedrus_ | make: *** [scripts_basic] Error 2 |
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| 17:35.09 | whitehorse1 | stew: possibly. and no. |
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| 17:35.14 | teufel | valdyn: I set it to 192.168.5.2 |
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| 17:35.25 | phaedrus_ | sorry about that |
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| 17:35.30 | phaedrus_ | thats the problem |
| 17:35.39 | stew | whitehorse1: you want to reinstall the kernel in order to get rid of what the alsa install did? |
| 17:35.40 | valdyn | teufel: and the second? |
| 17:36.19 | teufel | valdyn: the second computer? thats when the router starts to make a new set of ip address... so 192.168.1.101 |
| 17:36.37 | valdyn | teufel: no, the second IP or your 'router' |
| 17:36.38 | stouset | phaedrus_: Couldn't tell you. Try a non-crappy wireless card? :\ |
| 17:36.45 | phaedrus_ | lol |
| 17:36.48 | phaedrus_ | ok |
| 17:36.52 | beardy | saintiss: The kernel-source is made clean (isn't it) so there is no .config, you have to make oldconfig, or copy a config to the sources location. It has to have a .config. |
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| 17:36.57 | whitehorse1 | stew: I'm not against trying the repository versions of alsa one last time. i'd need to completely remove all the alsa version 1.11rc1 stuff somehow, in order to install/configure the etch repository's alsa v1.10 package(s). Don't know how though. In answer to your question, I wouldn't say want to exactly, that's just the advice I've had in this IRC channel |
| 17:37.05 | valdyn | teufel: if its connecting 192.168.100.x and 192.168.5.x then it has to have 2 IPs at least |
| 17:37.21 | bkw__ | How can I disable some of the unused modules listed with lsmod, none of them are in /etc/modules |
| 17:37.23 | saintiss | beardy: ic... does make oldconfig fetch the default config from somewhere? |
| 17:37.48 | teufel | valdyn: oh, the local address for the network it makes is 192.168.1.1 |
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| 17:37.48 | whitehorse1 | stew In order to install the etch repository versions without invalid version/symbol errors at modules insertion I mean |
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| 17:37.56 | stouset | bkw__: Do you really need to? How do you know they're unused. If they're not in /etc/modules, that generally means something needed them and they were autoloaded. |
| 17:37.56 | beardy | saintiss: No, it creates (as best it can) a config with the same configuration as the current running kernel. |
| 17:37.59 | valdyn | teufel: ok, ping that from a client |
| 17:38.10 | saintiss | beardy: interesting... ok, thanks |
| 17:38.12 | valdyn | teufel: let me know if it works |
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| 17:38.44 | ansong | is it normal behaviour to run "sudo command" reboot and run another "sudo command" but this time not be prompted for my password? |
| 17:38.50 | smartcop25 | hi |
| 17:38.54 | stouset | saintiss: If you need a reasonable .config, the one in /boot/config-<kernel-version> should do the trick. |
| 17:38.58 | teufel | valdyn: yeah, the 192.168.1.1 works |
| 17:39.03 | beardy | saintiss: If it's a debian stock kernel, or a make-kpkg compiled one, the config should be in /boot, /boot/config-kernelversion |
| 17:39.04 | stouset | ansong: Yes. |
| 17:39.11 | valdyn | teufel: ok, can the clients ping each other? |
| 17:39.13 | ansong | stouset, thanks |
| 17:39.26 | valdyn | teufel: trying one pair is enough |
| 17:40.06 | teufel | valdyn: yeah, the network that the router provides works fine... they can see the router, and eachother |
| 17:40.12 | smartcop25 | hello et toi |
| 17:40.23 | teufel | valdyn: it's just between the server and the wireless thingy |
| 17:40.27 | bkw__ | stouset: there are tons of modules for controller cards I don't have. I guess I can leave it anyway if it's too messy removing |
| 17:40.39 | dada | HELPPP pls , i just installed debian 31 r1 . How to open KDE or GENOME , what is the command pls |
| 17:40.47 | jcuk | startx |
| 17:40.49 | jcuk | :P |
| 17:40.53 | beardy | !install x |
| 17:40.54 | dpkg | install xf4 is probably apt-get install read-edid mdetect discover; apt-get install x-window-system-core (plus whatever window manager you like, etc.), or ask me about "set up x", or "configure xf4" |
| 17:41.03 | stouset | bkw__: They get swapped out if not in use anyways. No real point in removing them. |
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| 17:41.19 | saintiss | beardy: hmm, indeed, and there is also one in kernel-headers/.config. Is that also a good one? |
| 17:41.22 | valdyn | teufel: ok, can your server ping your wireless router? |
| 17:41.29 | stouset | saintiss: Just use the one in /boot/config-<version>? |
| 17:41.30 | dada | i'd tried startx it doesnt work |
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| 17:41.34 | bkw__ | stouset: understood, better leaving them. thanks for your answer. |
| 17:41.35 | teufel | valdyn: no |
| 17:41.42 | saintiss | stouset: yes, it seems to be the same anyway :) |
| 17:41.43 | stouset | saintiss: That is the one used for the kernel you're running now. |
| 17:41.51 | beardy | saintiss: what stouset said |
| 17:41.58 | saintiss | ok thanks |
| 17:42.35 | valdyn | teufel: how many ethernet ports does that wireless router have? |
| 17:42.36 | beardy | dada: Do what dpkg said above. |
| 17:42.49 | teufel | valdyn: 4 |
| 17:42.50 | beardy | dada: You have to install something to be able to run it. |
| 17:43.22 | valdyn | teufel: ok, give your server an ip within 192.168.1.x and ping your wireless router |
| 17:44.11 | dada | thanks |
| 17:44.19 | dada | i'll try |
| 17:45.02 | beardy | !install kde |
| 17:45.03 | dpkg | install kde is, like, In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 17:45.07 | teufel | valdyn: timed out |
| 17:45.08 | beardy | !install gnome |
| 17:45.08 | dpkg | from memory, install gnome is to install gnome on sarge or later, install gnome to install everything, install gnome-desktop-environment to install slightly less stuff, or install gnome-core to install even less, you will need x installed to use gnome, ask me about <set up x> |
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| 17:45.33 | valdyn | teufel: try dhclient ethX ( whichever device is linking to your wlan router ) |
| 17:45.47 | stew | dada: install x-window-system-core |
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| 17:47.06 | dada | thanks |
| 17:47.15 | teufel | valdyn: no DHCPOFFERS received no working leases in persistent database. |
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| 17:47.29 | [Jonathan] | I'm trying to write something into the daily cron that moves our files over to another computer on the network.. but i'm not sure how to specify the network path in a command |
| 17:47.53 | valdyn | teufel: mii-tool ethX |
| 17:48.23 | teufel | negotiated 100basetx-FD, link ok |
| 17:48.36 | dada | bbl |
| 17:48.38 | dada | thanks |
| 17:48.57 | shelika | [Jonathan]: why not using scp? |
| 17:49.02 | stouset | [Jonathan]: scp -r /path/to/files user@backup-machine:/path/to/backups |
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| 17:49.27 | teufel | valdyn: would I need to make another eth (eth2) for the wireless router by any chance? In /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:49.34 | shelika | stouset: that's what I was talking about ;) |
| 17:49.37 | valdyn | teufel: uh? |
| 17:49.49 | valdyn | teufel: how many network interfaces do you have? |
| 17:49.55 | stouset | shelika: :D |
| 17:50.12 | teufel | valdyn: I have 2 in the server, but was wondering if maybe the wifi router might 'count' as one? |
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| 17:50.36 | [Jonathan] | will that work is the target to backup to is a windows machine? |
| 17:50.41 | [Jonathan] | if ^ |
| 17:50.57 | stouset | [Jonathan]: No. Use smbclient. |
| 17:50.57 | valdyn | teufel: the wifi router is built into your server that it would need to count it as device? |
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| 17:51.22 | freeziekat | how do I add a virtual interface in debian from shell? |
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| 17:51.47 | bbrazil | freeziekat: ip addr add 1.2.3.4/24 dev eth0 |
| 17:51.48 | teufel | valdyn: no no, it's not part of it... nevermind it was a stupid suggestion. |
| 17:51.53 | bbrazil | freeziekat: see also, man interfaces |
| 17:51.53 | valdyn | teufel: each ethX has its single corresponding hardware device |
| 17:52.06 | onweald_tim | Newbie question.. apologies if in the wrong channel: On a tty only (no-x installed) system... how can I set the number of rows to display? |
| 17:52.12 | freeziekat | and it will STAY in the system? |
| 17:52.25 | freeziekat | how do I find the file they have been written to? |
| 17:52.28 | bbrazil | freeziekat: see my second line |
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| 17:52.32 | teufel | valdyn: where did I specify on the server how many address to give out? Like if I want it to give out 192.168.1.1-255 |
| 17:52.35 | freeziekat | it's on a diff gateway |
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| 17:52.49 | valdyn | teufel: your server gave out IP adresses? |
| 17:53.02 | valdyn | teufel: i'd doubt that if its not even reachable |
| 17:53.06 | teufel | valdyn: no, but isn't it sposed to? |
| 17:53.10 | freeziekat | I am in the interfaces file right now.. |
| 17:53.10 | stouset | onweald_tim: The number of rows? Explain. The vt has a buffer where the rows are stored, and it only displays on screen the number that can be shown on screen. |
| 17:53.15 | valdyn | teufel: why would it? |
| 17:53.18 | freeziekat | it won't work to add it that way |
| 17:53.27 | valdyn | teufel: your wlan router seems to be doing that just fine |
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| 17:53.29 | stouset | onweald_tim: Shift+PgUp/PgDown to scroll up/down. |
| 17:53.33 | beardy | [Jonathan]: It could, using cygwin or other, but rather, mount the share under /mnt/somename and copy the files there in your script. |
| 17:53.34 | teufel | valdyn: oh.. I think I'm getting it confused with a dhcp server |
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| 17:53.52 | teufel | valdyn: the server is just to send the signal on |
| 17:53.58 | valdyn | teufel: probably, ok anyway, set your local interface back to what it was |
| 17:54.06 | beardy | [Jonathan]: Or smbclient, as suggested.. |
| 17:54.15 | valdyn | teufel: ( ifdown ethX;ifup ethX ) |
| 17:54.26 | valdyn | teufel: then paste the complete route -n output of your server |
| 17:54.58 | teufel | valdyn: does this look right for /etc/network/interfaces: auto eth0, iface eth0 inet dhcp, iface eth1 inet static, address 192.168.1.200, netmask 255.255.255.0, network 192.168.1.0, broadcast 255.255.255.255, auto eth1 |
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| 17:55.13 | aaronlin_ | How do I configure XFree86 to show only 16 bit color instead of 24 bit? |
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| 17:55.19 | beginer | Any idea what is causing the "read_socket_data: recv failure for 4. Error = Connection reset by peer" error in samba logs? |
| 17:55.21 | ahmed | any piranha users here? I has a lvs.cf file that seems misconfigured.. Any help is highly appreciated |
| 17:55.22 | aaronlin_ | ghost aaronlin |
| 17:55.29 | valdyn | teufel: and where's the 192.168.5.x in that? |
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| 17:55.44 | nkuttler | !drxx aaronlin_ |
| 17:55.44 | stouset | aaronlin_: grep DefaultDepth /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 17:55.45 | dpkg | aaronlin_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 17:55.45 | teufel | valdyn: we changed it to 192.168.1.* remember? |
| 17:56.00 | aaronlin_ | nkuttler: Thanks! |
| 17:56.16 | beardy | onweald_tim: How many rows do you want? |
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| 17:56.51 | valdyn | teufel: yea.. i thought you had restored the original already, nvm that, run 'iptables --flush' first and try pinging 192.168.1.1 |
| 17:56.58 | phaedrus_ | anyone wanna help me with this error i get when doing make oldconfig ? |
| 17:57.02 | beardy | onweald_tim: Append vga=ask to the kernel in your bootloader configuration, reinstall your bootloader, reboot, select the mode you wish. |
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| 17:57.21 | freeziekat | how do u restart network services to reflect ip changes, isn't it like inetd restart? |
| 17:57.30 | teufel | valdyn: no response |
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| 17:57.52 | beardy | freeziekat: /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
| 17:57.59 | freeziekat | yeah thanks |
| 17:58.26 | valdyn | teufel: LC_ALL=C sudo ifconfig eth1 | grep -i "inet addr" |
| 17:58.30 | teufel | valdyn: Kernel IP routing table |
| 17:58.31 | teufel | Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric Ref Use Iface |
| 17:58.33 | bkw__ | Is the easiest way to write dvd images in debian to use cdrecord? |
| 17:58.33 | teufel | 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth1 |
| 17:58.34 | teufel | 24.9.200.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.248.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 17:58.36 | teufel | 0.0.0.0 24.9.200.1 0.0.0.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
| 17:58.49 | onweald_tim | stouset: Sorry about that. I was in another channel.... My terminal shows 25 rows. I want to switch to show more at once. |
| 17:58.53 | saintiss | hmm... "kernel-patch-xxx", are these patches which are applied to the default debian kernel packages, or are these optional patches which provide extra features if you apply them during kernel rebuild? |
| 17:58.58 | onweald_tim | I'll try the shift-pgup/dn... |
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| 17:59.27 | onweald_tim | shift-pgup/pgdn didn't work |
| 17:59.31 | bibe | bkw__ : 'man growisofs' has a simple example for burning a dvd iso image |
| 17:59.33 | teufel | valdyn: inet addr:192.168.1.200 Bcast:255.255.255.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 17:59.34 | beardy | onweald_tim: PageUp/DOwn |
| 17:59.36 | freeziekat | auto eth0:1 |
| 17:59.36 | freeziekat | iface eth0:1 inet static |
| 17:59.36 | freeziekat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.36 | freeziekat | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.36 | freeziekat | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:59.46 | stew | saintiss: the debian kernel sources will have the patches applied already |
| 17:59.59 | valdyn | teufel: ok, alright, that worked fine, now change it back to your original with that 192.168.5.x |
| 18:00.02 | beardy | onweald_tim: If you mean to scroll in your irc-client.. |
| 18:00.11 | teufel | valdyn: k |
| 18:00.15 | valdyn | teufel: the problem is your router in any case |
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| 18:00.21 | onweald_tim | beardy: ahhhhh... I am talking about in tty. |
| 18:00.29 | saintiss | stew: sure? there is such a patch called kernel-patch-debianlogo, but I never saw that logo appear on an apt-installed kernel |
| 18:00.33 | beardy | onweald_tim: Read what I said above. Why do you need/want more rows? |
| 18:00.36 | onweald_tim | I am ircing through windoz |
| 18:00.39 | grumpydog | wow we are getting a little floodness here, try and speak to the person helping you in private message |
| 18:00.42 | onweald_tim | I want to see more. |
| 18:00.50 | beardy | grumpydog: No. |
| 18:00.52 | onweald_tim | Specifically, when compiling the kernel... |
| 18:00.59 | phaedrus_ | lool |
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| 18:01.03 | freeziekat | oops.. |
| 18:01.18 | beardy | onweald_tim: Well, pipe through less, or output to a file. |
| 18:01.21 | jshoenberger | I installed MySQL5.0 recently, it's running fine, then to help me administer I apt'd phpmyadmin. I can type in the webpage and bring up the phpmyadmin login screen, but when I attempt to login it tells me it can't connect to my mySQL server through the socket. I can verify that mySQL is running right now so that's not the problem. Ideas? |
| 18:01.21 | stew | saintiss: no i am only talking about the kernel-patch-$version packages, none of the other patches would be applied |
| 18:01.24 | teufel | valdyn: do I want my servers network to be 192.168.5.0 or 192.168.5.255 ? |
| 18:01.24 | jesperj | can one do a sid backport if there is no source package available for the deb to make a backport of? |
| 18:01.37 | saintiss | stew: aha, right... ok thanks |
| 18:01.39 | teufel | valdyn: or do I even need a network line in interfaces? |
| 18:01.39 | jesperj | eh nevermind |
| 18:01.39 | valdyn | teufel: 192.168.5.0 |
| 18:01.42 | jesperj | ignore that |
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| 18:02.02 | freeziekat | I added these lines and it's not working for my virtual interface... |
| 18:02.04 | freeziekat | http://pastebin.com/481784 |
| 18:02.12 | freeziekat | these are added to the interfaces file |
| 18:02.17 | beardy | onweald_tim: (resaying, if you couldn't find it) Append vga=ask to the kernel in your bootloader configuration, reinstall your bootloader, reboot, select the mode you wish. |
| 18:02.18 | onweald_tim | beardy: Yeah, I'm using pager. But for some things, it would make more sense for the tty to be taller. I am new to linux. You can do it in dos... |
| 18:02.27 | valdyn | !tell teufel -about paste |
| 18:02.30 | stew | jshoenberger: does /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock exist? how did you install mysql-server? via apt? |
| 18:02.44 | onweald_tim | beardy: thanks. I'll try that out! |
| 18:02.56 | beardy | onweald_tim: Yes, of course you can. Are you using framebuffer? |
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| 18:03.08 | stew | teufel: you don't need network or broadcast lines unless you are doing something very very non-standard |
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| 18:03.22 | onweald_tim | beardy: No clue... which probably means no. :-) |
| 18:03.42 | teufel | stew: do I need a gateway line? do I just put in the modem's ip address for that line? |
| 18:03.49 | jshoenberger | stew, I installed it via binaries off of their website. Odd, there is no .sock file, but I can connect to it by mysql -h localhost -u root |
| 18:03.55 | beardy | onweald_tim: Is the marker, where you enter text, a square, or an underline _ ? |
| 18:04.06 | stew | teufel: you need one gateway line for your default gateway |
| 18:04.30 | onweald_tim | beardy: underline |
| 18:04.30 | valdyn | teufel: your modem should be on a different interface |
| 18:04.41 | jesperj | ok I am trying to make a sid backport of ardour to testing. When I do "apt-get build-dep ardour-gtk-i686; apt-get -b source ardour-gtk-i686", apt-get says a lot of new packages will also be installed.. Is it safe to continue or will I end upp with all those packages from sid? I am fearing a broken mixed system |
| 18:04.45 | stew | jshoenberger: you need to have mysql-server and phpmyadmin agree on the location of the .sock file, in mysql you would configure that in /etc/mysql/my.cnf |
| 18:04.46 | Agent_137 | Afternoon, Folks. What's a good mudclient for debian? With highlights, logging, and wordwrap. I've googled a few but haven't been satisfied. |
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| 18:05.00 | valdyn | teufel: and beside that, a modem has no IP, so its probably not a 'just' a modem |
| 18:05.07 | beardy | onweald_tim: Does it look like in dos, the screen, the font, or does it look different? |
| 18:05.20 | cahoot | jesperj: http://familiasanchez.net/~roberto/howtos/debcustomize |
| 18:05.25 | stew | jesperj: do you have any deb lines in your sources.list pointing to sid, or just deb-src lines? |
| 18:05.32 | teufel | valdyn: well I meant my eth0 device I guess then... |
| 18:05.40 | jesperj | stew, i just added a deb-src |
| 18:05.42 | onweald_tim | beardy: Looks like DOS. |
| 18:05.48 | jesperj | to sid |
| 18:05.51 | jshoenberger | Stew, alright, so I should just change /ety/mysql/my.cnf to point to /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock? |
| 18:05.58 | stew | jesperj: then build-dep cannot possibly install any packages from sid |
| 18:05.58 | jesperj | ty cahoot |
| 18:06.01 | valdyn | teufel: uh, that doesnt concern me atm as you cant even ping your wlan router and that is what we are trying to fix first |
| 18:06.03 | onweald_tim | beardy: I did a standard debian install but did not choose desktop, etc. |
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| 18:06.08 | stew | jshoenberger: yes |
| 18:06.11 | jshoenberger | kthx |
| 18:06.12 | vedranell | hello |
| 18:06.13 | jshoenberger | :D |
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| 18:06.23 | beardy | onweald_tim: Probably not framebuffer then. Well, do as I said, and hit Enter when prompted, and you will be given a list of modes to choose from. |
| 18:06.30 | vedranell | Does anyone can help me to access a USB device? |
| 18:06.33 | beardy | onweald_tim: When booting. |
| 18:06.44 | stew | vedranell: what device? what do you want to do with it? |
| 18:07.02 | teufel | valdyn: if a program like 'ping' is timing out and I dont want to wait, is there a way to intterupt it without just closing the terminal window? |
| 18:07.16 | stew | teufel: hit ctrl-c |
| 18:07.17 | vedranell | stew: It is a Pen Drive. I can't access to te disc |
| 18:07.22 | valdyn | teufel: now after this it should be like 192.168.5.1(server) <-> 192.168.5.2 ( wlan router ), correct? |
| 18:07.23 | dbron | vedranell: does the bios support it? |
| 18:07.24 | stew | vedranell: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
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| 18:07.27 | valdyn | teufel: Ctrl-C |
| 18:07.35 | aaronlin_ | how do I know the color setting for X again? |
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| 18:07.44 | stew | aaronlin_: what do you mean? |
| 18:07.46 | phaedrus_ | bah! |
| 18:07.53 | vedranell | dbron, I hope. In Mandriva I can access it. |
| 18:08.00 | freeziekat | can someone look at my interfaces config file and let me know what is wrong with the virtual interfaces |
| 18:08.03 | cahoot | aaronlin_: xdpyinfo |
| 18:08.04 | aaronlin_ | I would like to know the color depth for X |
| 18:08.04 | jesperj | stew, so it is fairly safe? the only package from sid will be ardour since it will be buildt with "apt-get -b source ardour-gtk-i686", the rest of the packages will be from testing? |
| 18:08.08 | aaronlin_ | X Windows |
| 18:08.28 | onweald_tim | beardy: Thanks for helping this newbie. It will be good to get it working the way I want but I would like to know why it worked. (So I don't ask stupid questions again. :-) ) So, please confirm for me. Adding vga=ask on the kernel line in grub's menu.lst instructs the kernel to ask me what mode to initialize tty in. Correct? And after that, the kernel will ask each time I reboot? |
| 18:08.29 | teufel | valdyn: yes the server is set up that way. I have the address of the router as 192.168.1.1 but tried 192.168.5.2 and it still didn't respond |
| 18:08.35 | stew | aaronlin_: xdpyinfo | grep depth |
| 18:08.46 | stew | jesperj: yes, exactly |
| 18:09.01 | aaronlin_ | ok cool, it says 16 |
| 18:09.04 | valdyn | teufel: got to go.. try figuring why your wlan router is not responding and DONT bother fixing NAT, when prerequisites dont work at all.. |
| 18:09.07 | aaronlin_ | good, that's where it ought to be at.... |
| 18:09.11 | vedranell | So how can I know if I have this modules loaded? |
| 18:09.19 | aaronlin_ | someone told me that changing the depth from 24 to 16 would save me a lot of memory |
| 18:09.21 | teufel | valdyn: ok thanks for all the help |
| 18:09.27 | stew | vedranell: "lsmod" will list all the loaded modules |
| 18:09.27 | aaronlin_ | it seems like Xfree86 is sitll using up a lot |
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| 18:09.40 | jesperj | aaronlin_, cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | grep DefaultDepth |
| 18:09.41 | vedranell | stew: thanks! |
| 18:09.58 | jesperj | too late |
| 18:10.10 | aaronlin_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:10.44 | stew | aaronlin_: if you run at, for instance 1024x768, changing from 24bit to 16bit will change the amount of *video ram* from 3mb to 2mb |
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| 18:10.57 | stew | (approximately) |
| 18:11.01 | stew | aaronlin_: /msg dpkg free memory |
| 18:11.05 | aaronlin_ | stew: I am currently running at 12?? x 9?? |
| 18:11.57 | stew | !1280.0 * 960 * 3 / 1024 / 1024 |
| 18:11.57 | dpkg | 3.515625 |
| 18:12.08 | beardy | onweald_tim: Correct, not sure if grub wants it on the kernel line though, it should go where all things that are appended to the kernel are put. Yes, it will then ask you everytime you boot which mode you wish to use. Framebuffer is nicer to use if you want to have more than 80x25 though, but I'm not sure how to enable it, it used to be the default on woody (the previous stable release) |
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| 18:12.24 | stew | aaronlin_: at 24 bit that requires 3.5mb of video ram, at 16 bit it would be somewhere between 2 and 3 |
| 18:12.48 | jshoenberger | stew, in /etc/mysql/my.cnf every single instance I can find says /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock strange that mysql is running and still that file doesn't exist... |
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| 18:13.07 | jshoenberger | Perhaps the version of phpmyadmin I got from apt isn't the proper version for mySQL 5.0? |
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| 18:13.45 | stew | jshoenberger: what version of debian? if its stable aka sarge, then it wouldn't support mysql5 since sarge's php doesn't have support for mysql5 |
| 18:13.51 | jauregi | what's the version jshoenberger ? |
| 18:13.53 | jshoenberger | Bah! |
| 18:14.00 | jshoenberger | Stable / Sarge :( |
| 18:14.21 | onweald_tim | beardy: I'll see if I can figure out how to use framebuffer. More to learn! Thanks again! |
| 18:14.21 | jshoenberger | jauregi, version of which? |
| 18:14.26 | stew | jshoenberger: but if that .sock doesn't exist it means you either need to restart mysql or you are going after the wrong config file |
| 18:14.35 | jauregi | version of php |
| 18:14.42 | jshoenberger | php4 |
| 18:14.45 | freeziekat | I GOT IT WORKING!!!!!!!!! |
| 18:14.46 | beardy | onweald_tim: No problem, I'll have a look too. |
| 18:14.48 | freeziekat | <-dork |
| 18:15.16 | jauregi | why don't you install php5 jshoenberger ? |
| 18:16.03 | stew | jshoenberger: do you really need mysql 5 instead of mysql 4.1? |
| 18:16.12 | jshoenberger | I don't know! I've got like 12 projects work is pushing me on and this is my 13th, I just wanted it done quick! T_T |
| 18:16.17 | jshoenberger | bah! |
| 18:16.22 | jshoenberger | No |
| 18:16.35 | jshoenberger | I can just delete this stuff and go to 4.1 |
| 18:16.47 | jshoenberger | Wow, mysqld.sock exists now |
| 18:16.50 | stew | jshoenberger: then install mysql4.1 via apt and stop messing with unsupported upstream versions |
| 18:17.00 | jshoenberger | But phpmyadmin has the same message |
| 18:17.09 | jshoenberger | Sure lol |
| 18:17.24 | jshoenberger | apt-get mysql-server ? |
| 18:17.28 | jshoenberger | apt-get install mysql-server |
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| 18:17.38 | jshoenberger | rather, anything else I should pick up along the way? |
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| 18:18.33 | phaedrus_ | holy shit i need mad help! |
| 18:18.46 | jauregi | tell us phaedrus_ |
| 18:18.53 | phaedrus_ | well |
| 18:18.57 | phaedrus_ | im doinf make oldconfig |
| 18:19.03 | phaedrus_ | and get this stooopid error |
| 18:19.07 | pzn | I'm using Debian sarge. does anyone knows where gnome-mixer-applet stores the default volume that it sets when the user logs in? |
| 18:19.17 | RichiH | phaedrus_: let me guess. it tells you pebkac |
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| 18:19.24 | phaedrus_ | non no |
| 18:19.24 | RichiH | ;) |
| 18:19.28 | azeem | pzn: probably in gconf |
| 18:19.51 | phaedrus_ | /bin/sh: /usr/src/linux-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: No such file or directory |
| 18:19.57 | phaedrus_ | thats the first line |
| 18:20.15 | RichiH | phaedrus_: unpack the sources again |
| 18:20.26 | phaedrus_ | ok |
| 18:20.28 | RichiH | or redownload |
| 18:20.29 | onweald_tim | beardy: In case anyone else is monitoring... Looks like I have to recompile to get framebuffer working: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Framebuffer-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.1 Thanks again! |
| 18:20.35 | phaedrus_ | what do you think happened? |
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| 18:20.45 | RichiH | phaedrus_: you either deleted the file or it was never there |
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| 18:22.17 | phaedrus_ | ok ill try thank you |
| 18:22.51 | onweald_tim | New topic: I have a kernel compiling shell script with "make menuconfig". Just before that line, I want to go ahead and change some of the build parameters through the script. Is there a quick way to do this? |
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| 18:24.49 | beardy | onweald_tim: Yes, however, it is compiled into stock debian kernels, but as a module, and therefore not working, I don't know why it is done in that way, since it wont work.. But try the normal textconsole modes and see what you think about them before trying to compile a kernel just for that. |
| 18:25.48 | beardy | onweald_tim: Have a look at compiling kernels the debian way instead perhaps, /msg dpkg kp |
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| 18:27.06 | seberino | does security.debian.org have unstable/updtates or just *stable/updates* ?? |
| 18:27.27 | seberino | i.e. anyone ever update unstable? |
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| 18:27.38 | Omnix | !tell seberino about unstable security |
| 18:27.47 | onweald_tim | beardy: I am doing it the manual way because I am compiling a xen machine. |
| 18:28.27 | seberino | Omnix: thanks |
| 18:28.33 | onweald_tim | beardy: framebuffer... so should I be able to use modprobe to load the vesafb? |
| 18:28.37 | stew | seberino: just stable; there are no security updates for unstable, for testing /msg dpkg testing security |
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| 18:30.07 | jauregi | freakies, |
| 18:30.08 | jauregi | juas |
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| 18:30.46 | beardy | onweald_tim: I'm not sure how they have thought one should do it, since it has to be present in the kernel, because it needs to be loaded/used when booting, and modules are loaded later in the bootprocess. |
| 18:31.34 | beardy | onweald_tim: If you are going to compile a kernel with vesafb, compile it into the kernel _not_ as a module. |
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| 18:31.44 | Quarkvador | bonsoir |
| 18:31.52 | Eulex | !fr |
| 18:31.52 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 18:32.39 | tarzeau | !ttbomk |
| 18:32.46 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ttbomk is to the best of my knowledge |
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| 18:33.01 | Eulex | heh... it sounds explosive |
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| 18:33.07 | beardy | onweald_tim: The vesafb modes is described in /pathtolinuxsource/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
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| 18:33.55 | fusspils | NICKS |
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| 18:34.03 | mwe | is there any way to determine with which compiler a random linux kernel image was built? |
| 18:34.15 | stew | mwe: cat /proc/version |
| 18:34.25 | stew | mwe: (for the currently running kernel at least) |
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| 18:34.37 | mwe | stew: if it's not the running kernel? do you know? |
| 18:34.41 | beardy | onweald_tim: If you decide to compile a kernel with vesafb, and for some reason don't want to use it later, /msg dpkg nofb, for instructions how to disable it. |
| 18:34.50 | levander | Is there any way to determine what hard drive is installed in my box without rebooting? |
| 18:34.56 | beardy | mwe: uname |
| 18:35.10 | beardy | levander: dmesg |
| 18:35.25 | levander | beardy: dmesg output is filled with samba errors |
| 18:35.42 | beardy | levander: less /var/log/dmesg, or grep it |
| 18:35.43 | stew | mwe: no. if its a debian compiled kernel, however, we could tell you |
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| 18:35.59 | levander | beardy: thanks, that's what i needed, lemme try |
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| 18:36.18 | mwe | stew: yeah |
| 18:36.24 | beardy | levander: search for hd |
| 18:36.36 | levander | beardy: that worked, it's a maxtor, thanks |
| 18:36.44 | beardy | levander: You're welcome. |
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| 18:37.16 | jshoenberger | Who? |
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| 18:39.46 | SimonRaven | ni |
| 18:39.52 | hang | wo |
| 18:40.08 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 18:40.08 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 18:40.21 | SimonRaven | !tarzeau |
| 18:40.21 | dpkg | from memory, tarzeau is http://livecd.gnustep.org/ |
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| 18:40.56 | beardy | !popcorn |
| 18:40.56 | hang | anyone is chinese? |
| 18:41.10 | beardy | hang: Probably. |
| 18:41.15 | beardy | hang: Or, no, not anyone. |
| 18:41.26 | beardy | hang: Someone are. |
| 18:41.56 | hang | beardy:mm,i'm a chinese,but my english is bad |
| 18:42.11 | beardy | !cn |
| 18:42.11 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, cn is China, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh, or for help in chinese please /j #debian-zh Please use UTF-8, for IRC help see http://tinyurl.com/8yrj9 | Qt/KDE čżć¸ˇćĺĽĺ§ďĽčŻ¦ć请é读 |
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| 18:42.41 | beardy | hang: You can try to ask anyway, and see how it goes. |
| 18:42.51 | SimonRaven | eh, that got mangled getting stored in iso-8859-1 |
| 18:43.21 | hang | fait |
| 18:43.56 | SimonRaven | it's cool, my chinese sucks |
| 18:44.20 | hang | ni hao ,hehe |
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| 18:44.50 | dade_ | wenas |
| 18:44.53 | SimonRaven | heh |
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| 18:45.31 | shining | should I file a bug for my little problem? |
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| 18:46.15 | tarzeau | takatumi: bubbles? as soon as i die in nethack |
| 18:46.20 | tarzeau | takatumi: i've got 2 other players |
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| 18:47.05 | vedranell | where is alsaconf? apt-file search alsaconf give me no results |
| 18:47.23 | stew | vedranell: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
| 18:47.27 | shining | I still can't remove this linux-image package and still don't have the slightest idea about what's the problem |
| 18:47.34 | vedranell | tnaks yoy stew |
| 18:47.50 | stew | ouyr elwcmoe |
| 18:47.57 | beardy | shining: Do you have another kernel installed? WHy do you have to remove it? |
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| 18:49.23 | shining | beardy: yes because I've a custom one |
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| 18:49.47 | shining | and I don't need the default 386 kernel |
| 18:50.53 | goccia | shining: tell dpkg |
| 18:51.06 | shining | btw I can remove it but not purge it. it's totally harmless but very annoying (to me :) ) |
| 18:51.10 | shining | goccia: hmm? |
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| 18:51.45 | goccia | long time ago in a far away galaxy : --purge --force-remove-essential ... |
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| 18:52.15 | shining | goccia: this doesn't work |
| 18:52.31 | shining | that's the problem |
| 18:52.37 | goccia | i don't believe it . i always do this way ... :) |
| 18:52.46 | shining | yes but there is a problem |
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| 18:53.09 | hang | my piont2play dosn't work |
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| 18:53.19 | shining | if someone could help me to find it out, it would be very nice |
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| 18:53.52 | hang | it give me a warning |
| 18:54.02 | goccia | shining: are you doing : dpkg .... ? |
| 18:54.38 | shining | yes |
| 18:55.08 | stew | hang: what is piont2play? can you show us exactly what you are trying to do and what warning you get? |
| 18:55.33 | hang | it's cedega |
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| 18:55.38 | shining | it's stuck there : http://rafb.net/paste/results/TBRYDt56.html |
| 18:55.49 | goccia | shining: i'm curious : what error ? |
| 18:55.53 | hang | it give me :::Configuration settings used in previous versions will no longer be used. |
| 18:55.54 | shining | none |
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| 18:56.09 | hang | TransGaming Point2Play Version 2.0.3 |
| 18:56.13 | shining | dpkg doesn't finish, it's stuck |
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| 18:56.33 | SimonRaven | #cedega |
| 18:56.37 | goccia | ahhh |
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| 18:56.48 | goccia | gamers all around :) |
| 18:57.01 | SimonRaven | that was for hang |
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| 18:57.20 | hang | :c it's a problerm |
| 18:57.21 | shining | someone told me to strace it earlier, but it's a bit complicated. I didn't find anything interesting |
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| 18:57.47 | darkness- | Since updating my sarge distro two weeks ago i've since lost my eth0 connection. Now my interface is up, any ideas what could be up? |
| 18:57.49 | stew | shining: you are getting an error running update-grub? |
| 18:57.53 | stew | shining: or what exactly |
| 18:57.58 | MezzoMicks | hey is someone used to setting up an icecast server |
| 18:58.10 | beardy | darkness-: You're interface? (was that a riddle?) |
| 18:58.15 | beardy | Your |
| 18:58.17 | shining | stew: it seems dpkg runs update-grub fine, since I see the "done" |
| 18:58.25 | shining | but I don't know what it does after that |
| 18:58.51 | darkness- | beardy: etc/nework/interface |
| 18:58.57 | meff | quick q, what is the flag to rsync to make it show the xfer speed while transferring? |
| 18:58.58 | onweald_tim | beardy: FYI, I added "vga=0x317 video=vesafb:mtrr,ywrap" on my kernel command line in grub menu.lst. Works great for the default kernel installed by Debian. xen kernel doesn't go to 80 lines but the ywrap seems to work now. I'm very happy now. (it takes so little :-) ) |
| 18:59.14 | shining | stew: you saw the paste ? |
| 18:59.21 | darkness- | beardy: However i can't contact the router which is on 192.168.0.1. |
| 18:59.25 | beardy | onweald_tim: Nice :) |
| 18:59.28 | stew | shining: look at /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.postrm |
| 18:59.36 | darkness- | beardy: Any ideas? |
| 18:59.53 | stew | shining: i saw some terse snippets of an strace run |
| 18:59.59 | nkuttler | meff: man rsync will tell you |
| 19:00.23 | shining | stew: hmm? some terse snippets? |
| 19:00.45 | shining | sorry, my english is very limited |
| 19:00.46 | beardy | onweald_tim: Where did you find out about that? |
| 19:00.53 | darkness- | beardy: heh, sarcasm i can do without tbh. |
| 19:01.10 | stew | shining: terse snippets == small pieces |
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| 19:01.31 | tarzeau | takatumi: join bubbles? |
| 19:01.34 | shining | stew: I tried looking at this postrm file, thats what ppl told me to do here earlier, but I didn't find where is the problem |
| 19:01.35 | tchino | exist a possibilty to print with canon pixma mp170 under debian |
| 19:01.40 | MezzoMicks | can someone help me out with a lil icecast-question... (they told me to go here on #icecast) |
| 19:01.42 | tarzeau | anyone else wants some fun with us? http://bub-n-bros.sf.net |
| 19:01.54 | tarzeau | abrotman: come on, you don't have a life nor a girl, join our club ;) |
| 19:02.04 | abrotman | i'm at work tard |
| 19:02.13 | abrotman | just like everyday at this time :) |
| 19:02.18 | tarzeau | you always work! |
| 19:02.26 | abrotman | you always play bub-n-bros! |
| 19:02.31 | tarzeau | you don't have forced holidays ever? |
| 19:02.35 | tarzeau | only at this time |
| 19:02.37 | abrotman | tarzeau: go to the guitar shop! |
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| 19:02.43 | tarzeau | it's cold outside |
| 19:02.50 | abrotman | tarzeau: girl! |
| 19:02.52 | tarzeau | and i'm out the thermo underwear already |
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| 19:03.08 | tarzeau | abrotman: yeah i've had some, it's good to not have one sometimes |
| 19:03.10 | newbie_at_linux | can i ask a question about dependencies? |
| 19:03.13 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:03.15 | tarzeau | like to have time for other important things, like bubbles |
| 19:03.20 | newbie_at_linux | what package do I need for this configure error: XML::Parser perl module is required for intltool |
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| 19:03.31 | tarzeau | newbie_at_linux: apt-cache search perl xml |
| 19:03.31 | shining | stew: the whole postrm file is run after update-grub ? |
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| 19:03.48 | goccia | this XML::Parser is very popular ... |
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| 19:04.50 | stew | shining: no, actually you should maybe be looking at prerm not postrm, one of those two runs update-grub as long as update-grub appears in /etc/kernel-img.conf |
| 19:05.10 | goccia | newbie_at_linux: apt-cache search xml | grep parser | grep perl |
| 19:05.11 | RichiH | shining: heh, still the same problem? |
| 19:05.19 | shining | RichiH: yep |
| 19:05.39 | shining | I gave up, but I'm trying again |
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| 19:06.16 | RichiH | heh |
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| 19:06.37 | shining | stew: yes update-grub appears in postinst and postrm hook |
| 19:06.57 | [Jonathan] | ok somethings up with one of our debian boxes.. its up and running and on the network, but when we try to ping it we get nothing |
| 19:07.14 | abrotman | firewall ? |
| 19:07.17 | [Jonathan] | which is kind of odd because all i did was reboot |
| 19:07.21 | [Jonathan] | we didn't originally have one on it |
| 19:07.25 | shining | so postrm runs update-grub ? |
| 19:07.28 | kamber | does somebody know the address of the debian achive repository? i need to find an old kernl |
| 19:07.35 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 19:07.35 | stew | shining: yes |
| 19:07.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem. |
| 19:08.33 | shining | stew: so, I don't get it |
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| 19:09.01 | shining | if postrm runs update-grub fine, dpkg should be fine and ends |
| 19:09.11 | Ungy | shining, Most people who hang out in this channel don't get it without payiong for it |
| 19:09.51 | shining | Ungy: :) |
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| 19:10.56 | [Jonathan] | the eth0 on the debian box has no activity at all |
| 19:11.44 | shining | stew: you there? |
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| 19:12.15 | shining | do you think the problem is in postrm or prerm then ? How can I be sure? |
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| 19:12.35 | Agent_137 | If a program is only available in RPM and in source, I as a debian user can only use it if I compile it from source, correct? |
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| 19:12.57 | Garda | hey, when i go "cat /proc/uptime" i get this |
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| 19:13.08 | beardy | Agent_137: You can use alien, but don't do it. |
| 19:13.09 | Garda | 11399.44 10420.65 |
| 19:13.17 | Garda | what do those 2 numbers mean |
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| 19:13.57 | Agent_137 | beardy: Ok. thanks. |
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| 19:14.30 | blondie | yawn |
| 19:14.32 | shining | Garda: I guess one of them is the number of sec your box is up |
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| 19:14.45 | hid3 | Hello everyone. How can I find out, which distribution (stable, testing or unstable) there's installed on a computer (I'm writing a script..) |
| 19:15.00 | streuner | hid3: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 19:15.18 | streuner | hid3: use the command mentioned there |
| 19:15.54 | shining | help |
| 19:16.03 | hid3 | well, the last displayed line is taken from sources.list, however, sources list may be damaged there.. |
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| 19:16.52 | abrotman | hid3: no .. that line is from the dpkg database |
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| 19:17.15 | hid3 | didn't knew that, thanks! |
| 19:17.24 | streuner | hid3: so sources.list and resulting line maybe sometimes different |
| 19:17.38 | stew | shining: so you are having trouble removing a kernel, right? can you tell how far into the prerm script it gets? |
| 19:17.39 | shining | why do I only have .postrm in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and not .prerm ? |
| 19:17.51 | [Jonathan] | would there be some reason in particular that a linux box would just stop connecting to the internet on a reboot? |
| 19:17.56 | [Jonathan] | or rather, after a reboot |
| 19:17.57 | shining | stew: I would like to know how I could do that |
| 19:18.05 | Agent_137 | What am I looking for if I want to update various things installed on my system? for instance, libao? is the "apt" command the correct direction? |
| 19:18.22 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: what did you cahnge ? |
| 19:18.50 | [Jonathan] | the only thing i did before the reboot was placing a file into the daily cron directory and running it once to backup our database |
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| 19:19.16 | beardy | Agent_137: libao? |
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| 19:19.40 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: can you connect to the server at all ? |
| 19:19.45 | beardy | !debian mantra |
| 19:19.45 | dpkg | i heard debian mantra is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" |
| 19:19.48 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, nope |
| 19:20.01 | shining | does anyone know how I could do to see how far prerm goes ? |
| 19:20.03 | stew | shining: debugging it by putting echo statements into the script to see how far it gets |
| 19:20.07 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, pings pointing to it's IP directly simply time out and we can't access any of the shared samba directories |
| 19:20.10 | shining | ha |
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| 19:20.21 | Agent_137 | beardy: I am trying to install gaim 1.5 package. it fails at libao cross platform audio library. apparently, it needs it. I'll try apt-get upgrade too |
| 19:20.24 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: can you login at the terminal ? |
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| 19:20.33 | shining | stew: but, I extracted the deb package with ar |
| 19:20.36 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, on the actual box itself? yeah, i'm logged in |
| 19:20.43 | shining | how can I use it once I modify it? |
| 19:20.44 | beardy | Agent_137: Use the version of gaim that is in debian. |
| 19:20.44 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: and outgoing traffic works ? |
| 19:21.08 | Agent_137 | beardy: I didn't see that version.let me look again |
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| 19:21.14 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, don't think so -- getting no activity from eth0 at all, and its not being able to talk to the apt servers when i use apt-get update either |
| 19:21.46 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: can you ping anything by IP ? |
| 19:21.47 | beardy | Agent_137: Use the version that is in debian, whatever it may be. It will work nicely for you. |
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| 19:21.49 | stew | shining: then i misunderstanding something, what are you trying to do, and what error are you getting? |
| 19:21.58 | newbie_at_linux | I just installed python2.1-dev and configure is still giving this error: Can't find Python.h! You will need the python development package |
| 19:22.01 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: check your network setup in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 19:22.07 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, from the actual linux box? |
| 19:22.13 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:22.14 | beardy | newbie_at_linux: python2.1? |
| 19:22.15 | Upu | Hi where would I find out if the Debian installer has drivers for a Silicon Image 3114 raid controller in it ? |
| 19:22.29 | stew | newbie_at_linux: what are you trying to compile? |
| 19:22.29 | abrotman | it does |
| 19:22.31 | [Jonathan] | i doubt it, but i haven't tried yet.. i'll try in a minute, it's fsck'ing at the moment |
| 19:22.43 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: is that intentional ? |
| 19:22.47 | Upu | k thx abrotman - where would I look for that information though ? |
| 19:22.58 | newbie_at_linux | beardy: yes, im going to try again with a newer version |
| 19:22.58 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, nope.. all i did was a reboot -f and it wanted to do that |
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| 19:23.02 | newbie_at_linux | stew: gnome desklets |
| 19:23.07 | newbie_at_linux | gdesklets |
| 19:23.15 | abrotman | Upu: you would see if it's in the kernels 2.4.27 or 2.6.8 ... those are the kernels currently available to sarge |
| 19:23.29 | stew | newbie_at_linux: why are you compiling it instead of just installing it? |
| 19:23.31 | shining | stew: did you miss the paste ? |
| 19:23.40 | shining | stew: http://rafb.net/paste/results/TBRYDt56.html |
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| 19:23.45 | Upu | yup but what documentation do I look at ? |
| 19:23.53 | shining | I just ran this dpkg command |
| 19:23.53 | abrotman | !ig |
| 19:23.53 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 19:23.57 | shining | and it's stuck there |
| 19:23.57 | Upu | there must be a list of what's compiled into the stock kernels somewhere |
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| 19:24.04 | Lord_Athur | where can i get a calzador for a metadistro system (to install and use as a live cd)? |
| 19:24.04 | abrotman | Upu: most everything is a module |
| 19:24.05 | stew | shining: what did you extract with ar? |
| 19:24.08 | Upu | ok |
| 19:24.26 | shining | stew: the deb package in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 19:24.26 | Upu | thx |
| 19:24.27 | newbie_at_linux | stew: i clicked on download and it gave me a tarball i thought there wasnt any binaries |
| 19:24.28 | abrotman | Upu: you can of course .. download the package .. extract it .. look at the config file |
| 19:24.38 | Lord_Athur | hey, where can i get a calzador for a metadistro system (to install and use as a live cd)? |
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| 19:24.41 | shining | stew: to look the postrm and prerm files |
| 19:24.41 | stew | newbie_at_linux: apt-get install gdesklets |
| 19:24.46 | Agent_137 | beardy: I'm looking here: http://gaim.sourceforge.net/downloads.php and i don't see a debian version. I can't google one, either. Will a CVS work for debian? |
| 19:24.51 | stew | shining: as i said before they are in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 19:25.00 | shining | stew: only postrm there |
| 19:25.08 | shining | .postrm and .list , not .prerm |
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| 19:25.28 | [Jonathan] | ok abrotman here are some of the errors i get at startup |
| 19:25.31 | Lord_Athur | debian users! |
| 19:25.32 | Lord_Athur | where can i get a calzador for a metadistro system (to install and use as a live cd)? |
| 19:25.34 | beardy | Agent_137: apt-cache search gaim, apt-get install packagename, or aptitude install packagename |
| 19:25.37 | yves | I'm new to Linux and I just installed Debian. When I try to apt-get upgrade I get errors with CVS, libcvsservice0, quanta, KDE and kdewebdev. can someone advise me here^ |
| 19:25.40 | beardy | Agent_137: /msg dpkg grounding |
| 19:25.43 | boguh | i have a sd card in my palm. is it possible to mount this card when its still in the palm? |
| 19:25.52 | Agent_137 | beardy: thanks, i'll work with all that. |
| 19:25.57 | [Jonathan] | modprobe: cannot create /var/log/ksymoops/20051228.log read-only file system and it does that with ide-disk modprobe: and psmouse modprobe: as well |
| 19:25.59 | Upu | thanks |
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| 19:26.05 | beardy | Agent_137: Probably apt-get install gaim |
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| 19:26.30 | stew | shining: but the package in /var/lib/apt/archives has both? |
| 19:26.32 | [Jonathan] | then when it goes to check all file systems, it says fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda2 Could this be a zero-length partition? fsck failed. Please repair manually |
| 19:26.38 | shining | stew: yes |
| 19:26.40 | [Jonathan] | then brings me to the control-d or password prompt |
| 19:26.54 | stew | shining: then you must have removed it from /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 19:27.03 | stew | shining: you should --reinstall it |
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| 19:27.06 | stew | shining: did you check the bts? |
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| 19:27.23 | dannythm | hello |
| 19:27.26 | recondite | hi |
| 19:27.27 | pipeline | yves: Make sure to "update" before you attempt to upgrade. |
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| 19:28.07 | yves | pipeline: I did. All is well on that part. It's after the update that I get those errors. |
| 19:28.10 | dannythm | I am trying to configure a dual boot kubuntu/win2k and for that i've modified the menu.list but win2k still don't boot |
| 19:28.12 | shining | stew: yes, but I'm not sure I checked correctly. I'm not used to it yet |
| 19:28.12 | muhoo | i'm looking for an xterm that's small and light, like rxvt (currently what i use) but has ONE more feature rxvt lacks: the ability to change bg/fg colours on the fly by doing an xrdb -merge |
| 19:28.24 | beardy | dannythm: #kubuntu |
| 19:28.31 | dannythm | ok |
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| 19:29.16 | muhoo | there are a ton of xterms in sarge, and i'd like to avoid having to try each and every one of them to find the one that has this small feature. |
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| 19:30.09 | shining | stew: these files get removed when I run dpkg --purge |
| 19:30.14 | recondite | aterm is lightweight and highly customizable |
| 19:30.23 | shining | only .list and .postrm remain |
| 19:30.29 | muhoo | recondite: thanks. |
| 19:30.43 | shining | it means it locks in postrm ? |
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| 19:31.37 | [Jonathan] | abrotman, any ideas at all? im completely stumped on this and this was our production box, we need it back up asap, but everything i've tried hasn't worked |
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| 19:31.58 | yves | after apt-get upgrade, it goes to set up CVS and then I get this error: gzip: stdin: invalid compressed data--crc error |
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| 19:32.29 | stew | shining: which files get removed when you --purge? |
| 19:32.45 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: why is your / RO? |
| 19:32.54 | stew | shining: oh, everything but postrm? then i'd guess it's failing in postrm not prerm |
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| 19:34.01 | [Jonathan] | RO? |
| 19:34.09 | jauregi | bye freaks |
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| 19:34.14 | takatumi | tarzeau: thanks. |
| 19:34.19 | stew | [Jonathan]: Read Only |
| 19:34.21 | shining | stew: yep |
| 19:34.36 | abrotman | [Jonathan]: did you repair the file system ? |
| 19:34.37 | thd | su refuses to let me use null passwords even with this setting: auth required pam_unix.so nullok_secure |
| 19:34.39 | shining | stew: can I edit the postrm file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ and run dpkg --purge again ? |
| 19:34.49 | stew | shining: sure |
| 19:34.58 | tarzeau | takatumi: it was fun, yeah :) |
| 19:35.04 | beardy | thd: Why do you want that? |
| 19:35.08 | takatumi | tarzeau: oh yeah. |
| 19:35.19 | tarzeau | if only snow wasn't so hard, my shoulders and arms wouldn't be hurting that much |
| 19:35.39 | takatumi | my chest hurts |
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| 19:35.44 | blondie | snow isn't hard, it's soft and fluffy |
| 19:35.46 | tarzeau | takatumi: from what? |
| 19:35.55 | beardy | hard snow is |
| 19:35.57 | takatumi | tarzeau: cold |
| 19:36.01 | tarzeau | blondie: you go onto a fast skilift and fall off from it 10 times |
| 19:36.02 | blondie | hard snow is ice |
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| 19:36.02 | [Jonathan] | I'm not quite sure why the system is read only |
| 19:36.03 | stew | shining: looks like this is a known problem, see #343093 |
| 19:36.14 | beardy | no, ice is ice |
| 19:36.19 | blondie | tarzeau: no, that's a stupid thing to do |
| 19:36.21 | [Jonathan] | and I've run an fsck -v /dev/hda1 on the file system before |
| 19:36.25 | blondie | well, snow IS ice but still |
| 19:36.26 | [Jonathan] | i have to do that quite often actually |
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| 19:36.43 | tarzeau | blondie: true, you better massage my back |
| 19:36.47 | tarzeau | with some special oils |
| 19:36.49 | beardy | yeah.. |
| 19:36.52 | thd | beardy: no god reason, only I am trying to allow a script run by any user to kill pppd no matter what nonroot user started pppd |
| 19:36.58 | blondie | tarzeau: maybe, are you cute? :P |
| 19:37.03 | tarzeau | blondie: indeed, very |
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| 19:37.11 | beardy | thd: sudo |
| 19:37.12 | blondie | right |
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| 19:37.23 | takatumi | and they have babies and live happily ever after |
| 19:37.41 | beardy | thd: restore the things you have done to your system |
| 19:38.17 | tarzeau | blondie: i'm in europe, you know... |
| 19:38.18 | shining | stew: maybe, I don't know |
| 19:38.21 | takatumi | tarzeau: tried mercurial? |
| 19:38.25 | yves | Help please: I'm new to Linux and I just installed Debian. When I try to apt-get upgrade I get errors with CVS, libcvsservice0, quanta, KDE and kdewebdev. can someone advise me here? |
| 19:38.27 | blondie | tarzeau: so? |
| 19:38.30 | tarzeau | takatumi: no? |
| 19:38.41 | thd | beardy: I do not want to give every user sudo privileges just to free a phone line |
| 19:38.46 | tarzeau | blondie: are your arms long enough? |
| 19:38.56 | beardy | thd: You rather let anyone run su? |
| 19:38.57 | blondie | well I *suppose* I'm in Europe |
| 19:39.04 | shining | there is nothing explaining the problem there, right? |
| 19:39.16 | tarzeau | blondie: are you cute? |
| 19:39.27 | blondie | apparently |
| 19:39.34 | recondite | lol, there seems to be a preoccupation with cuteness |
| 19:39.41 | recondite | or the lack thereof |
| 19:39.47 | blondie | cuteness is underated |
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| 19:40.02 | shelika | blondie: cuteness is overrated |
| 19:40.03 | tarzeau | i.am.cute.linuks.mine.nu |
| 19:40.06 | tarzeau | http:// |
| 19:40.25 | blondie | shelika: no it'snot |
| 19:40.26 | tarzeau | shelika: in switzerland, not |
| 19:40.26 | muhoo | recondite: hmm. docs don't say anything about being able to change colours on teh fly |
| 19:40.37 | tarzeau | blondie: ok, what's your hobbies? |
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| 19:41.00 | blondie | I feel I should tell you that I'm male |
| 19:41.04 | dddd | 673 guys are dying to know |
| 19:41.05 | thd | beardy: su requires the password for the user and I was attempting to let a script always start pppd from a user which has a null password. |
| 19:41.08 | shelika | I've been in switzerland more than once... it's overrated |
| 19:41.17 | shelika | in check republic, it is not ;) |
| 19:41.26 | tarzeau | blondie: i should've started with a/s/l i guess |
| 19:41.26 | recondite | muhoo: sorry about that, didn't remember if it was a a feature I actually used or not long ago. On second though, dunno if it can be changed on the fly |
| 19:41.37 | shining | stew: my $ret = purge(); |
| 19:41.45 | tarzeau | like the 1337 pro chatters on AOL do |
| 19:41.51 | blondie | haha |
| 19:41.53 | shining | it's stuck there |
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| 19:42.18 | shining | stew: what's purge() ? a function? where is it defined? |
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| 19:42.40 | eal | shingouz, purge = unistall and remove config files (^_^) |
| 19:42.42 | [Jonathan] | ok now im at a prompt |
| 19:42.46 | [Jonathan] | with (none) as the shell |
| 19:42.56 | shining | eal: I know that.. and? |
| 19:43.03 | thd | beardy: so the loss of security for su would be limited to the pppd user with a null password |
| 19:43.07 | tarzeau | [Jonathan]: do you have a broken disk? |
| 19:43.07 | shining | why doesnt it work? |
| 19:43.12 | stew | shining: its likely a function defined in that script |
| 19:43.14 | tarzeau | [Jonathan]: or was it just a power failure? |
| 19:43.26 | shining | stew: I looked but didn't find it |
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| 19:43.28 | tarzeau | [Jonathan]: did you read what the system told you on the screen? like asking you to do a manual fsck? |
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| 19:43.38 | naddar | dpkg marilat |
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| 19:43.42 | recondite | if mexianFood in stomach: pugre(gas) |
| 19:43.44 | naddar | !dpkg marilat |
| 19:43.58 | recondite | purge(gas)* |
| 19:44.04 | pipeline | recondite: You would enjoy Ada. |
| 19:44.06 | [Jonathan] | dont think it was any sort of power failure |
| 19:44.15 | [Jonathan] | and the disc sis fine |
| 19:44.25 | Cha1ns4w | evening all :) |
| 19:44.31 | shining | stew: so this function isn't even defined? |
| 19:44.37 | beardy | thd: But if you want that, you could instead give it a password, and hardcode that into the script, instead of allowing null passwords? In this case it would not do more harm than allowing null passwords, right? |
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| 19:44.43 | naddar | anyone knows the server marilat? |
| 19:44.46 | shining | thats why it's stuck there? |
| 19:44.48 | tarzeau | !marillat |
| 19:44.48 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 19:44.50 | thd | beardy: would that be terrible in comparison with the alternative of allowing every user to run sudo just to kill the pppd started at bootup? |
| 19:44.53 | tarzeau | naddar: it's a person, not a server |
| 19:45.28 | naddar | before i could add it to install mplayer |
| 19:45.35 | naddar | but now i dont find it |
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| 19:45.39 | stew | shining: no i don't think so. can you just remove it instead of purging it? |
| 19:45.41 | shining | stew: hmm yep, I commented the line, and it worked fine |
| 19:45.53 | thd | beardy: yes, that is much better. I am uncertain how to supply the password to the script |
| 19:45.58 | shining | stew: yes I was able to just remove it before |
| 19:46.15 | shining | because when you don't pass the purge option, the script ends earlier |
| 19:46.18 | muhoo | the goats! again it is they march! |
| 19:46.20 | shining | before the call to purge() |
| 19:46.31 | shining | # Ignore all invocations except when called on to purge. |
| 19:46.32 | shining | exit 0 unless $ARGV[0] =~ /purge/; |
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| 19:46.37 | thd | beardy: I mean how to supply the password in the script itself |
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| 19:47.09 | newbie_at_linux | i tried installing debian. i got it installed and a console showing. i tried to install gnome with apt and apt said i did not have a repository. but i had scanned all 14 cds, so i guessed at what to do. after installing gnome with apt, i put in startx and it did something then showed an error. does this mean i did something wrong or debian wont support my video card(nvidia vanta 6)? |
| 19:47.33 | shining | I've no idea what this purge() function was supposed to do. there package was removed fine as far as I can tell without it |
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| 19:48.21 | shining | stew: thanks for your help :) |
| 19:48.29 | [Jonathan] | tarzeau, yeah, i've been doing the manual fsck |
| 19:48.34 | [Jonathan] | tarzeau, it just says the system is clean when i do that |
| 19:49.10 | tarzeau | [Jonathan]: ok exit the shell |
| 19:49.30 | beardy | thd: Perhaps by using a here string (man bash)? |
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| 19:49.33 | tarzeau | [Jonathan]: can you not remove [ and ]? |
| 19:49.34 | dvm1981 | newbie_... - When installing Debian use the VGA default grafical card |
| 19:49.49 | tarzeau | dvm1981: on x86 |
| 19:49.55 | tarzeau | yes what else? serial console? |
| 19:50.01 | beardy | thd: (You do understand that generally this is a very bad thing to do?) |
| 19:50.25 | dvm1981 | There are a driver that would work with all video card, look for it |
| 19:50.26 | Jonathan` | better? |
| 19:50.38 | Jonathan` | how do you exit the shell? just ctrl+D? |
| 19:50.40 | tarzeau | dvm1981: it's textmode |
| 19:50.47 | tarzeau | dvm1981: any vga card can do that |
| 19:51.06 | dvm1981 | tarzeau - i dont know if it platform specifiq |
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| 19:51.14 | tarzeau | dvm1981: just tell what your problem is |
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| 19:51.22 | tarzeau | dvm1981: does the installer not work for you? 2.4 or 2.6? |
| 19:51.23 | beardy | Jonathan`: That or exit or logout. |
| 19:51.28 | tarzeau | fb or not? |
| 19:51.35 | darkness- | stew: Are you around? |
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| 19:52.10 | stew | darkness-: from time to time |
| 19:52.18 | Jonathan` | ok i exited |
| 19:52.38 | dvm1981 | tarzeau - Thankx for the support, i was answering to -- newbie_at_linux-- |
| 19:52.52 | thd | beardy: I will check the bash man page. I certainly understand that is very bad, however, I am trying to provide a function without something worse. Worse in this case would be novice users allowed to run sudo. |
| 19:52.59 | fndude | Where is mount /dev/pts called upon initialization? I have created a build with debootstrap, but when I chroot in, this mount is not there. Where should it be, and how can I figure out why debootstrap is not creating it? I am missing something here, a hint please. |
| 19:53.01 | dvm1981 | nice that people directly would like to help :-) |
| 19:53.15 | darkness- | stew: You tried to help me out with getting eth0 working again since i lost it a few weeks ago. Now the interface looks fine and netstat -r looks okay. Any other things to look at? |
| 19:53.36 | Jonathan` | ok now im at the normal prompt and logged in as root |
| 19:53.44 | beardy | thd: Yes, ok, as long as you understand it and know what you are doing. Search "Here Strings" in bash's manual page. |
| 19:54.03 | thd | beardy: thanks |
| 19:54.16 | dvm1981 | But the newbie_at_linux not responding |
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| 19:54.30 | teufel | I'm trying to get a proxy server going, and I'm following the directions on http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm but I'm stuck. There seems to be no connection between the server and the wireless router I want to hook it up to |
| 19:54.40 | beardy | thd: abs-guide is good to have around too, /msg dpkg abs-guide |
| 19:55.40 | Jonathan` | I'm logged in but still nothing different, cant do anything from it internet-wise and cant get ot it from another machine or ping it |
| 19:55.44 | shining | stew: do you have any idea what's this purge function is? |
| 19:55.47 | TheSin | can anyone tell me why module-assistant makes this zaptel-modules-2.6.14-2-686-smp_1.2.1-1+2.6.14-4_i386.deb and the modules in it install in /lib/modules/2.6.14/ instead of 2.6.14-2-686-smp |
| 19:56.03 | Jonathan` | on the actual linux box, when i 'ping localhost' it says 'network is unreachable' |
| 19:56.05 | TheSin | I have to insmod then on boot everytime, it's a real pain |
| 19:56.05 | shining | someone forgot to define it ? |
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| 19:56.42 | darkness- | stew: Any ideas? |
| 19:57.43 | TheSin | during the build KVERS and KSRC are set right, I've tried to track threw the process and can't find it |
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| 19:58.26 | TheSin | but I can't find where modules_install is defined though |
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| 20:00.20 | Lafy | can someone help me with winbindd? for some reason wbinfo -a user%pass works but wbinfo -u fails |
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| 20:01.14 | linuxnewbie101 | i FINALLY have finished an apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:01.30 | stew | darkness-: i don't understand what you are asking |
| 20:01.37 | linuxnewbie101 | and i have attempted to apt-get install two packages and i get dependency notifications :( |
| 20:01.55 | abrotman | Jonathan`: is the rootfs still RO ? |
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| 20:02.09 | linuxnewbie101 | this is the first time i have gotten depency notifications is there a way around this i dont want to have to fish around for dependancies everytime i want to install an application |
| 20:02.10 | stew | linuxnewbie101: /msg dpkg ba5t |
| 20:02.11 | stew | err |
| 20:02.12 | darkness- | stew. I've tried everything i know why my internet is down and i can't connect to my router via 192.168.0.1. |
| 20:02.15 | stew | linuxnewbie101: /msg dpkg bat |
| 20:02.19 | dogmeat | anyone used ethereal for network diagnostics/troubleshooting ? |
| 20:02.26 | abrotman | noone .. ever .. |
| 20:02.31 | stew | darkness-: can you ping 192.168.0.1 ? |
| 20:02.35 | beardy | !anyone use |
| 20:02.35 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 20:02.39 | darkness- | stew, yes. |
| 20:02.43 | Jonathan` | abrotman, im not evn sure |
| 20:02.49 | Jonathan` | but its been doing that everytime i reboot |
| 20:03.01 | dogmeat | how is ethereal different from tcpdump? |
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| 20:03.05 | stew | darkness-: does "route -n" list 192.168.0.1? |
| 20:03.42 | dogmeat | does ethereal help detect DDoS attacks? |
| 20:03.43 | darkness- | stew: I don't know. |
| 20:03.44 | stew | dogmeat: ethereal is gtk based |
| 20:03.44 | abrotman | Jonathan`: check your /etc/mtab |
| 20:03.57 | linuxnewbie101 | stew this is obvious no need to paste it is requesting dependencies when i request packages now before the apt-get dist-upgrade there were no request for dependencies is there something i can do to prevent this |
| 20:04.14 | linuxnewbie101 | going out and grabbing a huge dependency chain i do not like doing everytime i have to install an app |
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| 20:04.54 | Jonathan` | /dev/hda1 / ext3 rw,errors=remound-ro 0 0 |
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| 20:04.59 | Jonathan` | remount* |
| 20:05.07 | fndude | linuxnewbie101: It sounds like your sources.list is not jiving with your dist, meaning you need to change your sources.list. |
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| 20:05.14 | stew | linuxnewbie101: if you don't install a pacakges dependencies the package will not work, you must install the dependencies |
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| 20:05.26 | stew | linuxnewbie101: it sounds like everything is functioning correctly |
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| 20:05.46 | stew | fndude: what makes you say that his sources.list is "not jiving" ? |
| 20:05.53 | fndude | stew: Why is he getting failure on dependencies? |
| 20:05.56 | ruied | totem reports that it needs libcss to watch dvd's. the sarge doesn't have that package, what can I do? |
| 20:06.21 | stew | fndude: i'm not sure he is. it sounds like he just doesn't want to install dependencies for some reason |
| 20:06.22 | fndude | stew: apt should get those packages he needs, there is obviously something wrong. |
| 20:06.44 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, upgrade from what, to what? |
| 20:06.48 | stew | fndude: but since he won't show us the actual errors he is getting we are left to guess |
| 20:06.48 | thingfish | ruied: add marillat to your sources.list and then search for libdvdcss |
| 20:06.55 | linuxnewbie101 | ugh i had the dependencies it use to not do this when i had a bare install |
| 20:07.14 | ruied | thingfish, why debian doesn't it have the libcss? legal stuff??? |
| 20:07.15 | linuxnewbie101 | i just ran apt-get dist-upgrade to the latest i guess |
| 20:07.23 | fndude | stew: no, I have seen that behavior before, am 100% sure its his sources in apt not being able to resolve those dependencies. |
| 20:07.24 | stew | linuxnewbie101: if you don't tell us what error you are getting we cannot help you |
| 20:07.37 | thingfish | ruied: yes. |
| 20:07.49 | fndude | stew: well 99.9% |
| 20:07.55 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, many packages need to install dependencies when you install them. there's nothing you can do about it. |
| 20:08.09 | stew | fndude: then why aren't you telling him the solution? |
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| 20:08.31 | Jonathan` | abrotman, what do i set that errors= to to fix it? |
| 20:08.36 | fndude | linuxnewbie101: what dist of debian are you using? |
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| 20:08.51 | ruied | thingfish, thanks |
| 20:09.15 | linuxnewbie101 | i have posted my output in flood its obvious though one dependency isnt met i go get it before i can get it i need another dependency then so forth and so on |
| 20:09.16 | abrotman | Jonathan`: what other partitions are there? |
| 20:09.17 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, and exactly what command are you running, and what of the output do you not expect? |
| 20:09.24 | abrotman | Jonathan`: are any of the ro ? |
| 20:09.26 | phaedrus_ | hello , im at make menuconfig on my kernel compilation ....where do i disable 4k stacks? |
| 20:09.29 | abrotman | instead of rw i mean |
| 20:09.31 | linuxnewbie101 | eulex its in flood |
| 20:09.37 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, I was not there |
| 20:09.39 | stew | linuxnewbie101: k3b is not in testing currently /msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 20:09.46 | phaedrus_ | hey Eulex |
| 20:09.55 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, pastebin it, that makes everything easier |
| 20:09.56 | stew | Eulex: he's getting k3b not installable |
| 20:09.57 | linuxnewbie101 | go there and ill post again eulex |
| 20:10.09 | stew | linuxnewbie101: don't bother, you are trying to install a non-existant pacakge |
| 20:10.18 | Eulex | stew, oh. extremely strange. |
| 20:10.19 | linuxnewbie101 | stew thanks |
| 20:10.27 | linuxnewbie101 | why did they get rid of k3b |
| 20:10.27 | Jonathan` | theres proc, which is rw |
| 20:10.30 | Jonathan` | devpts which is also rw |
| 20:10.33 | stew | linuxnewbie101: /msg dpkg kde3.4 |
| 20:10.36 | Jonathan` | and lots of usbfs which ar eall rw, and one tmpfs |
| 20:10.46 | Jonathan` | only ro is the /dev/hda1 |
| 20:10.48 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, it will be there again after the c++ abi transition... |
| 20:10.56 | linuxnewbie101 | i mean its weird i do an apt-cache search and it shows up as its there |
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| 20:11.20 | Eulex | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 20:11.20 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
| 20:11.36 | linuxnewbie101 | do i need to reboot after an apt-get dist-upgrade |
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| 20:11.46 | stew | linuxnewbie101: your options are to 1) wait for it to enter testing again (probably a few weeks) 2) use something else instead 3) backport it from sid /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 20:11.51 | darkness- | stew: route -N gives me two lines. |
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| 20:12.13 | darkness- | First line 192.168.0.0 gw 0.0.0 genmask 255.255.255.0 |
| 20:12.19 | linuxnewbie101 | stew ill just wait |
| 20:12.24 | linuxnewbie101 | its nothing major |
| 20:12.24 | darkness- | second line 0.0.0.0 |
| 20:12.26 | abrotman | Jonathan`: can you paste the file somewhere ? |
| 20:12.27 | Eulex | linuxnewbie101, only if it installed a new version of a kernel you've got installed |
| 20:12.28 | abrotman | !paste |
| 20:12.28 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 20:12.52 | stew | darkness-: the second line is just 0.0.0.0? that is it? there should be a gateway |
| 20:13.01 | phaedrus_ | hello , im at make menuconfig on my kernel compilation ....where do i disable 4k stacks? |
| 20:13.16 | linuxnewbie101 | does anyone know how i can get a floppy to read in both linux and windows |
| 20:13.16 | linuxnewbie101 | im having a little trouble on this |
| 20:13.20 | darkness- | stew, gw 192.168.0.1 genmask 0.0.0.0 |
| 20:13.45 | stew | darkness-: can you ping 72.14.207.99 ? |
| 20:14.01 | abrotman | linuxnewbie101: make it a fat floppy |
| 20:14.06 | darkness- | stew: Wouldn't think so. |
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| 20:14.25 | Jonathan` | abrotman, i'd have to type it all manually |
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| 20:15.05 | stew | darkness-: if you can ping that address, i'd think you have a dns problem, otherwise it sounds like a problem with your router or beyond |
| 20:15.06 | muhoo | holy sheepshit |
| 20:15.07 | linuxnewbie101 | i did that in windows and still cant get stuff to swap between the two |
| 20:15.17 | stew | darkness-: can you ping whatever your router's default gateway is? |
| 20:15.20 | muhoo | for 5 years i've been struggling with how to change colours on the fly in rxvt |
| 20:15.26 | muhoo | and the answer is as simple as... |
| 20:15.32 | darkness- | stew: I can ping 192.168.0.1 |
| 20:15.32 | muhoo | echo -e \\033]39\;gray\\007 |
| 20:15.36 | muhoo | echo -e \\033]49\;black\\007 |
| 20:15.40 | muhoo | doy |
| 20:15.45 | Eulex | !win muhoo |
| 20:15.45 | dpkg | Congratulations, muhoo! You have won a one way ticket to Rio de Janeiro! |
| 20:15.47 | madclicker | i am looking for a program that can track bandwith usage on a DMZ zone. Can someone help a brother? |
| 20:16.04 | stew | darkness-: what is 192.168.0.1? a debian box? a windows machine? some kind of linksys router? |
| 20:16.04 | blondie | madclicker: you're not our brother |
| 20:16.06 | muhoo | heh. i should win a "boy am i a fucking idiot" pin |
| 20:16.17 | stew | darkness-: have you actually tried to ping an external ip address like 72.14.207.99? |
| 20:16.20 | darkness- | stew, thats my netgear router. |
| 20:16.35 | stew | darkness-: can you ping the netgear's next hop? |
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| 20:16.44 | soymilk | muhoo: what does that command do? (nothing in my urxvt term...) |
| 20:16.45 | darkness- | stew, i will go try ping 72.14.207.99 |
| 20:16.54 | muhoo | soymilk: try this then |
| 20:16.58 | muhoo | echo -e \\033]39\;black\\007 |
| 20:17.01 | muhoo | echo -e \\033]49\;white\\007 |
| 20:17.18 | soymilk | now i can't see anything |
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| 20:17.28 | muhoo | do BOTH of them |
| 20:17.31 | soymilk | ah |
| 20:17.34 | muhoo | they change your colours |
| 20:17.35 | beardy | !medal muhoo |
| 20:17.42 | linuxnewbie101 | yea i can copy files from windwos to the floppy and it will display in linux but when i copy files from linux to floppy they will appear in linux but when i put in windows box then they will show as if they were not there |
| 20:17.47 | muhoo | hah |
| 20:17.48 | azeem | ugh |
| 20:17.53 | muhoo | !botsnack |
| 20:17.53 | dpkg | muhoo: thanks |
| 20:17.53 | teufel | I'm trying to get a proxy server going, and I'm following the directions on http://www.aboutdebian.com/proxy.htm but I'm stuck. There seems to be no connection between the server and the wireless router I want to hook it up to |
| 20:18.09 | muhoo | i love that bot. it's such an asshole. |
| 20:18.16 | soymilk | muhoo: changing the fg and bg colors ? |
| 20:18.21 | jshoenberger | !give muhoo a "boy I am a fucking idiot" pin |
| 20:18.21 | dpkg | give muhoo a "boy I am a fucking idiot" pin |
| 20:18.26 | jshoenberger | d'oh |
| 20:18.40 | stew | !cmd: medal (.*?) =~ s#|a whore## |
| 20:18.49 | azeem | stew: thanks |
| 20:18.54 | muhoo | soymilk: yes. i've been doing this on the linux console for years. it took me until now to even consider that it'd work in an rxvt term too. |
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| 20:19.11 | stew | azeem: didn't take, but i fixed it in /msg |
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| 20:20.22 | soymilk | muhoo: what's so useful about that, as opposed to just specifying -fg and -bg on the command-line? |
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| 20:20.47 | muhoo | soymilk: being able to do it on the fly |
| 20:20.53 | wethion | assuming I'm not a total schlep, how difficult is it to get a dvd to play via my laptop ( which has a S-video out ) to pipe the signal to my idiotbox..err television? |
| 20:20.58 | limpio | i created ~/.fetchmailrc but i need to make it 'user read/write only', i remember it had to do with chmod, but that is it. Can somebody help me? |
| 20:21.10 | ruied | ok, now I have totem running dvd's, is there any package for mplayer and xine? (I've used to compile it) but I would like to get a .deb package... |
| 20:21.11 | muhoo | i.e. when it's REALLY BRIGHT OUTSIDE, or when i'm outdoors with a laptop, i change my terms to black/white |
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| 20:21.33 | muhoo | when i'm inside at night, that glare gives me eyestrain, so i change back to gray/black |
| 20:21.46 | dbron | limpio: chmod 600 should do it |
| 20:21.54 | PunkZY | hi, where i can put "chmod +r /dev/xconsole" command to run it on debian startup? |
| 20:22.04 | dbron | limpio: chmod 600 .fetchmailrc |
| 20:22.15 | limpio | dbron: do i do this as user? |
| 20:22.23 | soymilk | limpio: chmod u+rw go-rwx |
| 20:22.46 | soymilk | muhoo: cool |
| 20:23.08 | stew | PunkZY: don't change the permissions, add users to the adm group instead |
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| 20:23.38 | teufel | what do you type to get your kernel info again? |
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| 20:23.42 | PunkZY | stew: you are right, tnx :) |
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| 20:24.51 | limpio | thx, guys |
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| 20:24.56 | phaedrus_ | where to disable 4k stacks ? |
| 20:25.34 | Jonathan` | the full list of FS are this: /dev/hda1, proc, devpts, usbfs (x10), tmpfs, usbfs (x5) |
| 20:25.39 | darkness- | stew: ping 192.168.0.1 and ping 72.14.207.99 = operation not permitted. Ping localhost works fine. |
| 20:25.45 | soymilk | teufel: uname |
| 20:25.47 | Ungy | anyone try to remotely reboot a system and get an error message like "shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl" |
| 20:25.53 | teufel | soymilk: thanks |
| 20:26.05 | Jonathan` | proc is set to /proc, usbfs are set to /proc/bus/usb, tmpfs is /sev/shm and /dev/hda1 is / |
| 20:26.09 | Ungy | followed by a "init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl" |
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| 20:26.57 | Ungy | I need a way to force the machine to restart |
| 20:27.06 | stew | darkness-: i thought you said you could ping 192.168.0.1 before. do you get operation not permitted as root? in that case it could be a local firewall. what about going to that address in a web browser? |
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| 20:28.28 | darkness- | stew: it doesn't work as root. If i try 192.168.0.1 in the browser which should give me the router gui gives me nthing |
| 20:28.39 | phaedrus_ | Ungy unplug and plug back in |
| 20:28.42 | phaedrus_ | : |
| 20:28.42 | phaedrus_ | 0 |
| 20:28.53 | Ungy | phaedrus_, remotely |
| 20:28.59 | phaedrus_ | hehe |
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| 20:29.12 | stew | darkness-: yeah i'm talking about the 72.14.207.99 address |
| 20:29.16 | chino[server] | how do i update apt ? |
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| 20:29.36 | jshoenberger | chino[server], apt-get update && apt-get upgrade ? |
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| 20:30.08 | chino[server] | thanks |
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| 20:30.19 | jshoenberger | Yes! I answered my first question! |
| 20:30.41 | abrotman | jshoenberger: and wrong! |
| 20:30.44 | jshoenberger | d'oh |
| 20:30.49 | abrotman | haha .. kidding .. sorry |
| 20:30.50 | jshoenberger | What was he talking about then? |
| 20:30.52 | jshoenberger | FHNKEDILWSGNREWKgfnwel |
| 20:30.58 | jshoenberger | End yourself |
| 20:31.00 | jshoenberger | :( |
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| 20:32.08 | takatumi | abrotman: hand him some karma to feel better. |
| 20:32.24 | abrotman | !jshoenberger++ |
| 20:32.36 | abrotman | i think i have negative 24262 karma |
| 20:32.38 | tosh | anyone know anything about serial null modem cables? tried to make one by desoldering all pins and switching pin 3 and 4 but apparantly minicom needs a carrier detect to be able to get serial output. trying to access the serial console of a sun ultra 5 from a debian box |
| 20:32.47 | abrotman | !nullmodem |
| 20:32.48 | martianlobster | is there something like scp, which will work for big files in bad network conditions, where there are interuptions? A guy I work with tried to scp a file to my home server, and it failed 5 times. I need some file copy that will pick up where it left off. |
| 20:32.50 | abrotman | !null modem |
| 20:32.50 | dpkg | i guess null modem is There really is no "null modem" per se, but usually a null modem cable. This is a cable that connects two computers together via serial port and allows them to communicate. Some hardware manufacturers of network hardware, such as hubs and routers, include serial ports for programming their devices. You use a null modem cable to communicate with these devices. Ask me about "null modem pinouts". |
| 20:33.01 | abrotman | !tell tosh about null modem pinouts |
| 20:33.13 | abrotman | tosh: looksl ike you missed a few :) |
| 20:33.25 | tosh | this is db9, not 25 :) |
| 20:33.30 | tosh | but I already appreciate the feedback :) |
| 20:33.30 | abrotman | doh! |
| 20:33.54 | tosh | im a bit confused to be honest, I find a lot of tutorials on how to do it but with like 4 different ways of handshaking |
| 20:34.04 | tosh | I don't want to transfer binary files or anything, I just want to access the serial console |
| 20:34.11 | tosh | and this thing is old, so no LOM |
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| 20:34.32 | tosh | minicom still says offline, so Im guessing I need CD |
| 20:34.42 | tosh | its about the adventure! |
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| 20:34.57 | tosh | the futile dispair! |
| 20:35.10 | tosh | burning your fingers and cursing, etc etc |
| 20:35.11 | linuxfreck | tosh: afaik, suns use rts/cts by default |
| 20:35.12 | abrotman | ok .. then ask #hardware or google :) |
| 20:35.21 | Omnix | !tell martianlobster about rsync |
| 20:35.25 | tosh | there's a #hardware? |
| 20:35.30 | tosh | sweet |
| 20:35.30 | abrotman | yes tehre is .. yay for /list :) |
| 20:35.38 | tosh | \o/ |
| 20:35.50 | martianlobster | Omnix: I didn't know rsync would work for individual files, I wil check it out |
| 20:35.52 | jshoenberger | wait wait, tosh, would you mind saying your prob lem again? |
| 20:36.01 | jshoenberger | I stepped away for a second and I think I can help you |
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| 20:36.03 | jshoenberger | but I missed the problem |
| 20:36.12 | tosh | jshoenberger I need to be able to access the serial port of a sunultra 5 |
| 20:36.14 | Omnix | martianlobster: it'll work for files, directories, whatever you like. With -e you can tunnel over SSH too |
| 20:36.22 | tosh | to get serial output and configure stuff, no keyb/mouse here for it |
| 20:36.36 | tosh | I have a normal serial cable, with a gender switcher piece, so female-female |
| 20:36.38 | martianlobster | Omnix: cool |
| 20:36.39 | jshoenberger | It's uh, RJ45 to one RJ11? |
| 20:36.44 | phaedrus_ | make-kpkg buildpackage -append_to_version -foo kernel_image <------what does foo mean? |
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| 20:36.51 | tosh | I desoldered all pins from one side and switched pin 3 and 4 and soldered those back |
| 20:37.00 | tosh | started minicom, but it keeps saying "offline" |
| 20:37.06 | tosh | and no output ofcourse. hah. |
| 20:37.06 | nkuttler | !foo |
| 20:37.07 | dpkg | foo is probably the first metasyntactic variable, it's a placeholder for some other term. See <http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/F/foo.html> and <bar> |
| 20:37.07 | linuxfreck | tosh: just look up a standard null modem cable pinout |
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| 20:37.14 | Ungy | abrotman do you know why I might be getting this message "shutdown: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl" |
| 20:37.15 | tosh | linuxfreck define standard :) |
| 20:37.21 | phaedrus_ | cool thanks |
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| 20:37.36 | nkuttler | cls |
| 20:37.36 | Ungy | abrotman, followed by this one "init: timeout opening/writing control channel /dev/initctl" |
| 20:37.53 | phaedrus_ | how do i make use of .rar files in debian ? |
| 20:38.03 | Eulex | phaedrus_, unrar |
| 20:38.06 | tosh | phaedrus_ google for rar for linux (unrar) |
| 20:38.07 | phaedrus_ | i have 20 .rar files with the info inside of them |
| 20:38.10 | linuxfreck | tosh: what dpkg said :) |
| 20:38.11 | teufel | where are most of the installed programs kept on debian? Like in windows for example, everything is shoved into c:/programfiles |
| 20:38.16 | kepht | tosh: you have to swap the control lines too |
| 20:38.33 | tosh | kepht the control lines you say |
| 20:38.36 | Eulex | teufel, binaries are in /bin, /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin |
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| 20:39.13 | kepht | dtr/dsr(not straight forward swap) and cts/rts(swap) |
| 20:39.25 | Ungy | teufel, heh what you looking for |
| 20:39.28 | valdyn | !fhs |
| 20:39.28 | dpkg | i heard fhs is the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard and is at http://www.pathname.com/fhs/, or included in the debian-policy package |
| 20:39.31 | valdyn | teufel: ^^^ |
| 20:39.40 | phaedrus_ | is it ok to just use foo in that command? |
| 20:39.42 | linuxfreck | tosh: also note that minicom always says offline in a nullmodem connection |
| 20:39.47 | teufel | valdyn: thanks for the link, Il'l read that |
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| 20:39.49 | tosh | linuxfreck aha |
| 20:39.56 | teufel | Ungy: just was curious... not really on a mission right now ;) |
| 20:40.06 | teufel | Eulex: cool, thanks |
| 20:40.46 | linuxfreck | tosh: just try setting 9600,8,N,1 as connection parameters and boot up your sun box. you'll see if it works :) |
| 20:40.48 | psychonate | phaedrus_, no. Get rid of the foo. |
| 20:40.54 | tosh | linuxfreck what kind of flow control/ |
| 20:40.57 | phaedrus_ | what do i type instead? |
| 20:41.33 | Eulex | phaedrus_, whatever you want. |
| 20:41.37 | psychonate | phaedrus_, I followed this for the most part: http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-kernel.en.html#s-kernel-debian |
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| 20:41.41 | linuxfreck | tosh: if you fscked up your rts/cts and dtr lines, use software flow |
| 20:41.49 | Eulex | phaedrus_, why are you compiling a kernel, btw? |
| 20:41.52 | psychonate | phaedrus_, but I did not use fakeroot. |
| 20:42.36 | orko | hi. my mplayer using alsa under debian unstable does play some movies very fast. If i select oss as sound driver the same movie plays in normal speed but without sound |
| 20:42.39 | kepht | tosh: DB9NULL == swap 2/3 and swap 7/8 and change 1-&-6 to 4 and change 4 to 1-&-6 |
| 20:42.45 | tosh | linuxfreck I get nothing, using hardware or software or no flow control. I have only the pin 3 and 4 attached btw, I prolly need more :) |
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| 20:43.04 | linuxfreck | tosh: you do. |
| 20:43.08 | beardy | orko: Why do you want to use oss if alsa is working? |
| 20:43.14 | linuxfreck | tosh: ground for example. |
| 20:43.15 | psychonate | time for shower, adios |
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| 20:43.25 | tosh | linuxfreck ground is for girls! ;) |
| 20:43.28 | tosh | kepht thanks |
| 20:43.44 | tosh | kepht hook up 1 and 6 and connect those to 4 on the oposite side you mean? |
| 20:43.50 | kepht | tosh: yes |
| 20:43.51 | orko | beardy: i dont want to use oss, but if i use alsa, some movies play faster then they should. Sound is faster, too. |
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| 20:44.04 | beardy | orko: Oh |
| 20:44.05 | zero-1 | how can i mount an usb flash memory on debian 3.1 sarge? |
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| 20:44.26 | _iH8|laptop | anybody else having mysql.sock errors as of late? ran into some users also having trouble since yesterday. decided to check al my setups. one mysql down? |
| 20:44.27 | orko | beardy: i just wanted to hint that this migth be a alsa problem, because with oss they play in normal speed. |
| 20:44.33 | tosh | zero-1 see how it is addressed in dmesg and mount it |
| 20:44.45 | paolob | Hi guys! Anyone could tell me where does debian's evolution store the mail accounts settings? |
| 20:44.50 | linuxfreck | tosh: a friend of mine worked in a company where they had a serial printer with just one pin connected |
| 20:45.03 | tosh | linuxfreck eh? :) |
| 20:45.11 | beardy | !usb_storage |
| 20:45.11 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 20:45.18 | zero-1 | the thing is that the computer was already started do i have to restart the computer? |
| 20:45.22 | linuxfreck | tosh: it did work :) |
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| 20:45.38 | Omnix | _iH8|laptop: eh? "mysql.sock errors" shouldn't be seasonal |
| 20:45.45 | Jonathan` | does anyone have any other ideas as to why the linux box we have would not have any internet-based activity at all and constantly say that the network is unreachable? |
| 20:46.14 | phaedrus_ | Eulex, i am recompiling debian to see if i can disable 4k stacks |
| 20:46.23 | phaedrus_ | werks better with the driver im trying to use |
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| 20:46.33 | nkuttler | Jonathan`: hmmm... because the network is unreachable? |
| 20:46.43 | teufel | so where would a program like... gedit or nano be on the filesystem? |
| 20:46.44 | nkuttler | Jonathan`: check the cables at first |
| 20:46.48 | zero-1 | ok i did it thanks |
| 20:46.49 | beardy | Jonathan`: It's /etc/network/interfaces is broken, or an iptables rule that drops all is in place. |
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| 20:47.15 | Jonathan` | nkuttler, positive it's not the cables |
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| 20:47.24 | beardy | teufel: man hier |
| 20:47.25 | doubleukay | phaedrus_, what do you mean by "disabling 4k stacks works better with the driver"? performance-wise, stability-wise, ? |
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| 20:47.46 | teufel | beardy: thanks |
| 20:47.51 | Jonathan` | the interfaces file looks fine |
| 20:47.55 | Jonathan` | auto lo |
| 20:48.00 | Jonathan` | iface lo inet loopback |
| 20:48.09 | _iH8|laptop | Omnix; ghehehe i understand that. but i didn't nothing to that setup. it just went down. started to look around on some forums and ran into other users having troubles as of yesterday today. thought i should ask here if there's some known problem |
| 20:48.47 | Jonathan` | address is set to .205, netmask to 255.255.255.0, broadcast on .255, network is .0 and gateway is .1 |
| 20:48.58 | Omnix | _iH8|laptop: I don't see any reason why today would cause MySQL servers to go down. Co-incidence of local problems |
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| 20:50.02 | phaedrus_ | stability wise without 4k stacks |
| 20:50.22 | TNKS | hi. I have a question. |
| 20:50.23 | tosh | holy moses, the pin layout is different numbering for male or female pieces |
| 20:50.39 | beardy | !ask |
| 20:50.39 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 20:51.47 | sean_micken|work | heya... is there anyway to clean up the bootup of a deb 3.1 system? the hotplug is so messy and it tries to load stuff that's already loaded... |
| 20:52.01 | sean_micken|work | i compiled a custom kernel and really don't have too many modules. |
| 20:52.12 | TNKS | So with apt-get sources, build-dep, it seems as though packages are automatically build-dep'd. This is convenient, but what's an easy way to keep track of these packages (like aptitude does with automark)? |
| 20:52.29 | streuner | sean_micken|work: apt-get remove hotplug? |
| 20:52.33 | TNKS | It would be nice to be able to purge these packages out later in some easy step. |
| 20:52.50 | kyncani | Hi, i'm looking for a backup tool (personnal workstation) that could do incremental backup fast enough (about 5-10 Gb of data, less than 100 Mb changed between incremental backups). I've tried dar and rdiff-backup, but both takes some hours to do an incremental backup. Any suggestion ? |
| 20:52.56 | tr1gg3r | sean_micken|work, some modules should be able to be stopped by adding them to the blacklist file |
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| 20:53.09 | common | kyncani: rsync |
| 20:53.13 | TNKS | I almost wish there was a script that allowed users to tag packages that are installed with a user "reason" for future reference. |
| 20:53.41 | common | kyncani: you can tunnel it over ssh |
| 20:53.45 | common | check the man page |
| 20:53.45 | TNKS | Sometimes I forget why a package is on my system. |
| 20:54.29 | kyncani | Well, i've also had some problems with rsync (maybe due to the fact that it was an old version). It would not keep file permission changes in the differential backups, only data change .. |
| 20:54.53 | Jonathan` | ok everytime i try to reboot it keeps telling me / was not cleanly unmounted, check forced |
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| 20:55.03 | Jonathan` | there must be something i'm just doing totally wrong here |
| 20:55.17 | nkuttler | Jonathan`: um, how are you rebooting? |
| 20:55.23 | Jonathan` | that time I just did reboot -f |
| 20:55.32 | abrotman | Ungy: did you get it ? |
| 20:55.34 | jshoenberger | Jonathan`, shutdown -r now |
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| 20:55.53 | Ungy | abrotman, get what? |
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| 20:56.07 | Ungy | abrotman, I got lucky somene was at the colocation and they ard booted it for me |
| 20:56.17 | nkuttler | Jonathan`: and the fsck runs and fixes stuff at every reboot? |
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| 20:56.23 | abrotman | Ungy: ah ok |
| 20:56.28 | Jonathan` | nkuttler, yeah |
| 20:56.37 | madclicker | is there a way to install mrtg without SNMP |
| 20:56.40 | Jonathan` | well, not every, but most |
| 20:56.41 | madclicker | ? |
| 20:56.42 | Ungy | abrotman, what does that error mean though |
| 20:56.44 | kyncani | common: i'll try rsync again anyway, thanks :) |
| 20:56.47 | Jonathan` | i still get a ton of errors regardless |
| 20:56.50 | nkuttler | Jonathan`: do a full backup right now, get a new hd |
| 20:58.02 | jshoenberger | Jonathan`, try doing the shutdown command instead of a forced reboot |
| 20:58.08 | jshoenberger | see if it does it again |
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| 20:59.10 | Jonathan` | k trying |
| 20:59.48 | newbie_at_linux | what is the command to change the fan speed? |
| 21:00.05 | seberino | do backports.org packages get updates like stable (sarge) does? |
| 21:00.11 | jshoenberger | anyone here good with mySQL? The fellows in #mysql are a bit rude, and their documentation doesn't explain it well enough for me |
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| 21:00.29 | deadcat | newbie_at_linux: none |
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| 21:00.51 | baikonur | hi |
| 21:00.54 | beardy | jshoenberger: Just ask. |
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| 21:01.01 | SmartUnix | Hi |
| 21:01.10 | Jonathan` | same thing, not cleanly unmounted |
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| 21:01.15 | beardy | ~tell A360 -about root |
| 21:01.27 | beardy | A360: Don't irc as root. |
| 21:01.36 | jshoenberger | How do I allow access to my mySQL server from a remote location? I keep getting the message <IP> is not allowed to connect tothis MySQL server. |
| 21:01.53 | newbie_at_linux | deadcat: i have seen a guy do it before using mythtv |
| 21:01.59 | newbie_at_linux | at a linux user group |
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| 21:02.21 | baikonur | I'm using oss and aumix does not save the volume settings; though it is only 67 per default it is louder than 80. After clicking into the volume bar it is normal again. How can I solve this? |
| 21:02.22 | bkw__ | Are there any gui tools to write dvd images in simple way? |
| 21:02.34 | deadcat | newbie_at_linux: ask him |
| 21:03.16 | SmartUnix | i have problem with SmartLink modem |
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| 21:03.35 | newbie_at_linux | fc4 takes 24 hrs to download on dsl |
| 21:03.40 | newbie_at_linux | using wget |
| 21:04.00 | beardy | newbie_at_linux: and? |
| 21:04.04 | bizkit | fc4? |
| 21:04.27 | deadcat | bizkit: fedora core 4 |
| 21:04.31 | newbie_at_linux | yeah |
| 21:04.40 | deadcat | newbie_at_linux: ya.. SO WHAT? |
| 21:04.50 | newbie_at_linux | just saying |
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| 21:04.54 | Eulex | newbie_at_linux, download the debian netinstall instead; just 100mb, plus just what you need/want to install will be downloaded |
| 21:05.01 | deadcat | how is bitching about your dsl line have to do with debian? |
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| 21:05.10 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | help help |
| 21:05.15 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | i have fallen and i cant get up |
| 21:05.30 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | i am trying to unbz2 quanta |
| 21:05.33 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | and i get |
| 21:05.34 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | colinux:/home/cdizzle# tar jxvf quanta-2.0.1.tar.bz2 |
| 21:05.34 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | tar (child): bzip2: Cannot exec: No such file or directory |
| 21:05.34 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | tar (child): Error is not recoverable: exiting now |
| 21:05.34 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | tar: Child returned status 2 |
| 21:05.34 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors |
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| 21:05.54 | bizkit | yes, you are right. debian and the debian packaged wget are slow and fill your bw up with crap |
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| 21:06.08 | deadcat | cDizzle_|www_px4: you stupid fuck |
| 21:06.13 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | yes? |
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| 21:06.21 | streuner | cDizzle_|www_px4: colinux isn't debian |
| 21:06.31 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | it is a debian image |
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| 21:06.36 | newbie_at_linux | does config files get removed when uninstalling programs? |
| 21:06.36 | abrotman | so apt-get install quanta |
| 21:06.46 | abrotman | newbie_at_linux: only if you purge it |
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| 21:06.53 | bizkit | cDizzle_|www_px4: apt-get install bzip2 |
| 21:06.57 | beardy | newbie_at_linux: Not if you are removing packages, only if you purge them. |
| 21:07.23 | bizkit | !nickometer cDizzle_|www_px4 |
| 21:07.24 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | install quanta is workin now, and i will do install bzip2 after, thanks tho cus im real noobish at this sorta thing.. lol |
| 21:07.25 | dpkg | 'cDizzle_|www_px4' is 85.000% lame, bizkit |
| 21:07.39 | SmartUnix | i do like this "module-assistant auto-install sl-modem" |
| 21:07.40 | cDizzle_|www_px4 | why is that? |
| 21:07.45 | SmartUnix | it's show for me this errors |
| 21:07.51 | streuner | cDizzle_|www_px4: change your nick |
| 21:08.08 | *** part/#debian baikonur (n=baikonur@p508B69CA.dip.t-dialin.net) |
| 21:08.12 | SmartUnix | make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/sl-modem' |
| 21:08.12 | SmartUnix | make[2]: *** No rule to make target `clean'. Stop. |
| 21:08.12 | SmartUnix | make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/sr |
| 21:08.22 | SmartUnix | where i can paste errors? |
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| 21:08.24 | jshoenberger | !nickometer jshoenberger |
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| 21:08.26 | dpkg | 'jshoenberger' is 0.000% lame, jshoenberger |
| 21:08.28 | jshoenberger | Nice! |
| 21:08.44 | bizkit | !paste |
| 21:08.45 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 21:08.53 | deadcat | jshoenberger: dont flatter yourself. its a random bot |
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| 21:08.57 | jshoenberger | lol |
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| 21:09.44 | jesperj | ok so I don't have a /dev/snd/seq device, how do I get one? |
| 21:09.47 | dbron | I think lameness is directly proportional to special characters iirc |
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| 21:09.57 | SmartUnix | this is errors which show for me http://channels.debian.net/paste/1406 |
| 21:10.07 | dbron | !nickometer that? |
| 21:10.09 | dpkg | 'that?' is 14.000% lame, dbron |
| 21:10.14 | jesperj | lsmod says snd_seq_device 8780 1 snd_rawmidi |
| 21:10.20 | bizkit | jesperj: imho you need the sequencer module |
| 21:10.28 | abrotman | SmartUnix: why are you compiling your kernel ? |
| 21:10.29 | jesperj | bizkit, like that one? |
| 21:10.42 | jesperj | snd_seq_device? |
| 21:10.44 | abrotman | SmartUnix: ignore me :) |
| 21:10.51 | bizkit | jesperj: looks like this one, yes. i'm not into it, sorry |
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| 21:10.55 | SmartUnix | :\ |
| 21:11.04 | abrotman | SmartUnix: gcc --version |
| 21:11.05 | jesperj | ok |
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| 21:11.23 | Jonathan` | hmm.. i have to get at least one file off of this machine before i do anything else to it |
| 21:11.27 | Jonathan` | our database backup is on it |
| 21:11.28 | bizkit | SmartUnix: ake[2]: gcc-3.4: Command not found |
| 21:11.47 | SmartUnix | ok then what should i do , becuase now i am in MS windows and i should reboot my computer to run linux |
| 21:11.49 | bizkit | s/ake/make/ |
| 21:11.53 | abrotman | SmartUnix: gcc --version ? |
| 21:12.06 | bizkit | and eventually install gcc-3.4 |
| 21:12.09 | bizkit | ;-) |
| 21:12.14 | abrotman | SmartUnix: ok .. if you have gcc4 .. you need like .. slmodem-2.9.11 or whatever it is |
| 21:12.25 | abrotman | SmartUnix: i just did this the other night |
| 21:12.32 | abrotman | (nevermind the driver didn't work .. but that's nto the point) |
| 21:12.43 | SmartUnix | gcc version is 4.0.1 |
| 21:13.10 | abrotman | right .. and what version of slmodem ? |
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| 21:13.24 | SmartUnix | it's from here http://packages.debian.org/stable/misc/sl-modem-source |
| 21:13.33 | abrotman | that will probably not work |
| 21:13.41 | SmartUnix | :\ |
| 21:13.43 | abrotman | since you have a kernel from testing .. and a compiler from testing ... |
| 21:13.46 | abrotman | http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ |
| 21:13.46 | hid3 | Evening everyone. I've switched on tcpdump on my dns server and noticed strange requests. There are many of them and all they try to resolve one hostname. I've pasted the result here: http://pastebin.com/482057 Could anyone help me with this? |
| 21:13.47 | SmartUnix | and what is the sloution ? |
| 21:13.50 | abrotman | !slmodem is also http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ |
| 21:13.50 | dpkg | abrotman: okay |
| 21:14.10 | SmartUnix | !slmodem |
| 21:14.10 | dpkg | i heard slmodem is http://www.smlink.com/content.aspx?id=132, or http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/ |
| 21:14.10 | cDizzle | you guys, WHAT IS the kernel |
| 21:14.12 | abrotman | SmartUnix: http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/smartlink/slmodemd-2.9.11_20051009_gcc4.tar.gz |
| 21:14.18 | cDizzle | like obviously its somethin deep down |
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| 21:14.22 | cDizzle | but whats it really about |
| 21:14.23 | abrotman | SmartUnix: i think .. i'm not at home so i can't verify |
| 21:14.39 | streuner | cDizzle: www.kernel.org and read it |
| 21:14.52 | hawking | Is there an open source racing game which is cool? |
| 21:15.01 | bizkit | hawking: tuxracer ;p |
| 21:15.12 | SmartUnix | my kerbel is 2.6.12 |
| 21:15.20 | jesperj | bizkit, it was snd_seq |
| 21:15.22 | deadcat | hawking: nope. |
| 21:15.22 | jesperj | works now |
| 21:15.23 | jesperj | ty |
| 21:15.27 | SmartUnix | kernel * |
| 21:15.28 | beardy | hawking: TORCS, not sure about the license(s) though. |
| 21:16.34 | abrotman | SmartUnix: i know .. but it's the compiler that's the issue .. try the tar.gz i pointed you at |
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| 21:17.01 | SmartUnix | it's for dcc 4 like mine |
| 21:17.04 | SmartUnix | gcc * |
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| 21:17.27 | cDizzle | so can u download and use JUST the linux kernel? instead of using distros? |
| 21:17.31 | abrotman | are you sure? .. i doubt the stable package works with gcc4 |
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| 21:17.34 | abrotman | !tell cDizzle about u |
| 21:17.52 | deadcat | is 500fps good enough for counter-strike? the old version |
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| 21:18.20 | beardy | !lfs |
| 21:18.20 | dpkg | it has been said that lfs is large file support -- http://www.suse.de/~aj/linux_lfs.html, or ask me about linux from scratch |
| 21:18.21 | tarzeau | hawking: no, the best is wipeout 1, 2 and 3 on sony playstation 1 |
| 21:18.38 | SmartUnix | what do you mean in "JUST the linux kernel" ? |
| 21:18.38 | tarzeau | hawking: with ice cold redbull, very loud speakers, two people, dark room and vibra controllers |
| 21:18.46 | SmartUnix | i don't understand you |
| 21:18.49 | tarzeau | large screen |
| 21:18.59 | abrotman | SmartUnix: ignore him |
| 21:19.05 | bizkit | cDizzle: yes, you can boot just the linux kernel. but after boot, you need some tools like sysvinit and stuff, or at least a shell you can use as init |
| 21:19.10 | abrotman | SmartUnix: try the tar.gz i pointed you at |
| 21:19.10 | SmartUnix | ok :) |
| 21:19.13 | beardy | SmartUnix: He doesn't know what he's asking anyway. |
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| 21:19.52 | SmartUnix | thanks very much :) |
| 21:20.29 | SmartUnix | i will try it and come for you if i have any problem , i wish to join this channel in Linux :) |
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| 21:20.40 | bizkit | well beardy, abrotman.. everyone had a beginning :-) |
| 21:20.55 | cDizzle | so if i run just the linux kernel with a shell, would i be able to custom make a distro pretty much (not to distrobute, but just for myself) and install all apps that i want and stuff or do u gotta know cpp and all |
| 21:20.56 | beardy | bizkit: Yes, and good answers he got. |
| 21:21.03 | abrotman | !tell cDizzle about u |
| 21:21.06 | cDizzle | like isntall kde |
| 21:21.30 | beardy | !d-i cDizzle |
| 21:21.31 | dpkg | cDizzle, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 21:21.33 | abrotman | there's no damn way that people from wisconsin talk like 'u' .. i know .. i've been there |
| 21:21.46 | bizkit | dpkg: tell cDizzle about linux from scratch |
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| 21:22.55 | jsmidt | who is over wiki.debian ? |
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| 21:23.06 | abrotman | huh ? |
| 21:23.08 | Auman | salut^^ |
| 21:23.17 | bizkit | servus |
| 21:23.27 | Auman | commen va?? |
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| 21:23.30 | abrotman | !fr |
| 21:23.30 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 21:23.44 | Auman | ah ok |
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| 21:24.20 | jsmidt | I know everyone can contribute to the wiki but is there a wiki team leader or something like that? |
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| 21:24.42 | jsmidt | I just want to know who to e-mail for questions I have about the wiki pages. |
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| 21:24.54 | abrotman | look on the wiki |
| 21:25.15 | se | which ASCII art editor is recommended? |
| 21:25.28 | cDizzle | and another thing, i am using colinux and currently just a debian image that i dl and extracted; how to i access the filesystem without booting off the image, so pretty much so i can start w/ a new filesystem and install my own stuff on it, cus i really dont want to dualboot cus thats just a whore |
| 21:25.28 | tarzeau | se: tetradraw |
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| 21:25.36 | tarzeau | se: it supports multidrawing over the network. let's play? |
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| 21:25.51 | abrotman | cDizzle: do you always talk like a moron? |
| 21:25.53 | se | tarzeau, =) |
| 21:25.58 | tarzeau | se: i did http://gnu.ethz.ch/issue with it |
| 21:25.59 | cDizzle | yes |
| 21:26.05 | beardy | tarzeau: The ANSI is outputs is horrible though.. |
| 21:26.05 | Malagmyr | Could people just STOP assuming that everybody speaks their language? I never walk into an english channel and start babbling in norwegian! If I were french, and in need of help in french, because my english wasn't quite good enough, I'd say something like "Can anyone help me, in french?". And if I were unable to say that, I'd use an online translator! What's the big problem?! ARGH! |
| 21:26.08 | Blue2 | I'm trying to burn my debian iso on windows, can i just unzip the iso files and put them on a cd or do i need something like nero? |
| 21:26.09 | Malagmyr | </troll> |
| 21:26.12 | beardy | s/is/it |
| 21:26.26 | abrotman | Malagmyr: huh ? |
| 21:26.47 | bkw__ | Anyone who knows if growisofs run with buffer underrun protection as default? |
| 21:27.04 | se | tarzeau, I cant reach the url |
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| 21:27.14 | Malagmyr | abrotman: People that join english help channels and start asking for help using their own language just get on my nerves sometimes... |
| 21:27.15 | se | tarzeau, must be my DSL prov. |
| 21:27.20 | tarzeau | se: why not? i can |
| 21:27.29 | tarzeau | beardy: looks fine here |
| 21:27.31 | se | tarzeau, ^ |
| 21:27.38 | tarzeau | beardy: you look in console at it? |
| 21:28.08 | bizkit | never heard of that tetradraw |
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| 21:28.37 | abrotman | Malagmyr: that's why we have the factoids .. if thier english is good enough to stay here and communicate effectively, that's great, otherwise we nudge them towards a channel for thier language |
| 21:28.39 | beardy | tarzeau: The files it outputs are huge, and contains a lot of crap, but they _look_ ok when viewing them. |
| 21:28.42 | martianlobster | Malagmyr: is there a linux help channel that talks esperonto? |
| 21:28.55 | abrotman | martianlobster: isn't that from spain ? |
| 21:28.56 | martianlobster | lol just kidding |
| 21:29.01 | tarzeau | beardy: ah that... oh well |
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| 21:29.09 | tarzeau | beardy: you go write a ansi code tuner |
| 21:29.13 | UncleD | /msg dpkg install debian |
| 21:29.21 | UncleD | oops. |
| 21:29.21 | martianlobster | abrotman: no it is a made up language, |
| 21:29.22 | tarzeau | bizkit: it's great, really |
| 21:29.30 | beardy | tarzeau: A friend of mine has, I'll just remembmer the name and where to get it.. :) |
| 21:29.48 | tarzeau | beardy: great, i'm interested in the code as well |
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| 21:30.41 | stivi | HI! I'm totaly new with debian! I'm now at the netinstall .... at xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:30.45 | stivi | I'm not shure what I have to select to install .... |
| 21:30.47 | stivi | The command lspci gives me: VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82815 CGC [Chipset Graphics Controller] (rev 02) |
| 21:30.50 | stivi | My question now: What do I have to select now? |
| 21:30.50 | abrotman | wtf is that language from spain .. |
| 21:30.54 | stivi | (My first langauge ist German so I try to give my best in finding the right words :-) ) |
| 21:30.58 | martianlobster | abrotman: spanish |
| 21:31.03 | abrotman | the one that .. jordi? .. has been translating for |
| 21:31.18 | martianlobster | oh basqe? |
| 21:31.30 | Malagmyr | abrotman: Yes. The factoids are great and all. It's just the logic I can't get. How can they assume that the people in here speak their language? That last guy wasn't so bad, he just said "hello," but people asking their whole question in some bizarre language is not unusual... |
| 21:31.34 | martianlobster | that languange that appears totally unrealated to all other European languages |
| 21:31.42 | stivi | anybody here who wants to give me a short help? |
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| 21:32.09 | abrotman | Malagmyr: it happens |
| 21:32.10 | Maulkin | stivi: just press enter |
| 21:32.27 | abrotman | Malagmyr: what's worse is when you have idiots from wisconsin who have been taught basic english .. and still can't figure it out |
| 21:32.31 | Eulex | stivi, select what out of what? |
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| 21:33.01 | abrotman | martianlobster: i was thinking of Catalan |
| 21:33.27 | stivi | mhh .. if you wait a moment I#ll type it down ;-) |
| 21:33.34 | martianlobster | abrotman: wow, spain has some obscure languages |
| 21:33.49 | bizkit | stivi: just explain |
| 21:33.52 | abrotman | martianlobster: it's apparently more used in Andorra .. you konw .. that little turd between spain and france :) |
| 21:33.52 | tarzeau | is the person here who wanted to play audio cd without that internal cable? |
| 21:33.57 | stivi | apm, ark, ati, chips, cirrus ... |
| 21:34.01 | stivi | \344hm... |
| 21:34.09 | Eulex | stivi, i810 |
| 21:34.16 | bizkit | tarzeau: well this is possible, isn't it :-) |
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| 21:34.26 | Eulex | ^^ |
| 21:34.31 | stivi | ok thanx |
| 21:34.34 | Eulex | that |
| 21:34.36 | Jonathan` | ok well i somehow got it on the network but im gonna move everything over to the other debian box which works fine, but php and apache is giving me some problems |
| 21:34.36 | tarzeau | bizkit: yes it is. and opencubicplayer 0.1.10_rc4 supports it |
| 21:34.38 | Eulex | 's an odd nick |
| 21:34.39 | stivi | I#ll try o810 |
| 21:34.44 | stivi | :-) |
| 21:34.46 | tarzeau | bizkit: and guess what, you can change pitch and speed! very funny |
| 21:34.46 | Jonathan` | i've used apt-get to install apache2 then did the same for php5 |
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| 21:34.54 | cuthonminh | Had a quick question. My organization is currently using Astaro for a firewall/nat/etc. Are there any open-source alternatives to Astaro? It's kinda costly. |
| 21:34.55 | Jonathan` | but it's not recognizing any of the mysql commands |
| 21:35.05 | bizkit | tarzeau: unbelievable |
| 21:35.26 | blondie | what's wrong with this line in my hosts.deny file: "ftpd: ALL EXCEPT 127.0.0.1" -- anyone is allowed to connect |
| 21:35.33 | tarzeau | bizkit: http://gnu.ethz.ch/ocp.png |
| 21:35.36 | hid3 | Is there any way to force the system to use TCP connections instead on UDP for resolving hostnames? (DNS) |
| 21:36.09 | bizkit | tarzeau: wtf |
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| 21:36.50 | tarzeau | hid3: not really |
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| 21:37.05 | hid3 | dammit, that's a pity. |
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| 21:37.09 | tarzeau | hid3: why? |
| 21:37.18 | tarzeau | hid3: you know how much slower tcp is? |
| 21:37.36 | tarzeau | hid3: obviously you don't play networked games, or do lots of dns resolving |
| 21:37.51 | hid3 | tarzeau: beacause on my heavily loaded mailserver/hostingserver there're such moments when even `host` fails to resolve something unless forcing it to use tcp with -u switch |
| 21:38.13 | tarzeau | hid3: how heavily loaded? |
| 21:38.38 | bizkit | hid3: The sethostent() function specifies, if stayopen is true (1), that a connected TCP socket should be used for the name server queries and that the connection should remain open during successive queries. Otherwise, name server queries will use UDP datagrams. |
| 21:38.42 | HermanDE | hid3: Is the dns server you are polling having problems? |
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| 21:38.47 | hid3 | well, about 200+ webhosting accounts + ~6000 email users (constantly about 400 messages in queue) |
| 21:39.26 | hid3 | HermanDE: I've specified 7 (!) dns servers in my resolv.conf -- still doesn't help |
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| 21:39.54 | bizkit | hid3: what about using an dnscache? |
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| 21:40.06 | HermanDE | hid3: Have you noticed a failure rate with different servers? |
| 21:40.19 | hid3 | you mean a local dns server/bind? I'm already using it |
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| 21:40.49 | HermanDE | hid3: I had a dns problem a few years back. I was up to 9 servers. Then I discovered that my ISP made a dns IP address switch on me... |
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| 21:41.04 | HermanDE | hid3: The bad DNS server kept blocking other requests... |
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| 21:41.11 | tarzeau | hid3: cpu/memory/disks? load avg? |
| 21:41.14 | hid3 | well, it fails to resolve when there'e many letters in the queue or a lot of dns requests. all my specified dns servers have 100 mbps connectivity with mine |
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| 21:41.22 | tarzeau | hid3: maybe it's time to split things away or upgrade some items in the machine? |
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| 21:41.40 | bizkit | hid3: yes, that's what i'm using, however i don't have a real high load |
| 21:41.48 | hid3 | tarzeau: 2.2 ghz with 768 ram and load average never exceeds 0.80 - 0.90 |
| 21:42.22 | tarzeau | hid3: diskspeed and how many of them? |
| 21:42.42 | tarzeau | hid3: strange, it shouldn't ever fail to resolve something |
| 21:42.50 | bizkit | don't think its related to the local hardware.. |
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| 21:43.06 | tarzeau | bizkit: neither do i, maybe something wrong with one of the dns servers? or the connection to there? |
| 21:43.17 | tarzeau | hid3: what's your dns servers? can you paste resolv.conf in a line? |
| 21:43.31 | bizkit | what about bandwidth usage? |
| 21:43.37 | gorby | Does any one know a good version of ndiswrapper to use on the testing kernel? |
| 21:43.39 | hid3 | one ide disk (80 gb WB with 8 mB cache) as main disk + 80 gb seagate as a backup drive (backups are copied at nighttime). hdparm shows it can achieve 45 mB/s and more |
| 21:43.51 | abrotman | gorby: apt-cache search ndis |
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| 21:44.15 | GaiaX11 | How do i know if someone has invaded my computer? |
| 21:44.20 | HermanDE | hid3: Are you running multiple anti-spy checks on each email? |
| 21:44.25 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: why do you think someone has? |
| 21:44.30 | hid3 | nameservers are here: |
| 21:44.30 | hid3 | nameserver 127.0.0.1;nameserver 82.135.220.1;nameserver 193.219.32.13;nameserver 213.226.131.131;nameserver 82.135.220.171;nameserver 213.190.55.15;nameserver 212.59.30.61 |
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| 21:44.33 | HermanDE | hid3: That should be spam... |
| 21:44.35 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: it's easy, do you have php installed? |
| 21:44.42 | HermanDE | hid3: Are you running a name server on the local box? |
| 21:44.48 | hid3 | yes I am |
| 21:44.57 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: local users? not the latest security updates daily? |
| 21:45.00 | hid3 | it stands as a slave for my domain |
| 21:45.11 | HermanDE | hid3: Try and remove the local dns server first..... That is if you can... |
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| 21:45.36 | MadMax | hey |
| 21:45.37 | bizkit | hid3: are you sure the problem is resolving hostnames? |
| 21:45.39 | HermanDE | hid3: Could be a recursive problem... The local dns refering to the local dns on UDP. |
| 21:45.52 | hid3 | tried many combinations with it.. still doesn't help. However, the output of `tcpdump -n -p port 53` is really heavy.. |
| 21:45.52 | GaiaX11 | How do i know if i have php? |
| 21:45.52 | abrotman | i vote for the monkeys! |
| 21:45.57 | abrotman | GaiaX11: dpkg -l | grep php |
| 21:45.58 | tarzeau | hid3: do you have anything blocked? icmp? udp? tcp with iptables or something? |
| 21:46.00 | gorby | abrotman: it gives me aversion that causes modprobe to hang.. |
| 21:46.01 | MadMax | i have a problem with twinview |
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| 21:46.07 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: dpkg -l |grep php |
| 21:46.13 | abrotman | gorby: it could be your driver :) |
| 21:46.14 | MadMax | my tv screen is black and white |
| 21:46.14 | GaiaX11 | Thankx |
| 21:46.16 | HermanDE | hid3: Are you running an anti-spam system? |
| 21:46.19 | hid3 | tarzeau: iptables is used for ssh filtering only here |
| 21:46.24 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: what's the ip of the box? |
| 21:46.28 | abrotman | gorby: i believe there is a #ndiswrapper |
| 21:46.32 | gorby | abrotman: it was fine in 2.6.8.2 :( |
| 21:46.34 | hid3 | HermanDE: yes, using spamassasin |
| 21:46.36 | MadMax | i use scart cable |
| 21:46.37 | abrotman | gorby: maybe they could be of more assistance |
| 21:46.40 | bizkit | MadMax: svidio? |
| 21:46.44 | abrotman | !spellsmite me |
| 21:46.44 | dpkg | abrotman: You have horrific spelling skills. |
| 21:46.45 | MadMax | yes |
| 21:46.46 | HermanDE | hid3: How many checks per email are you using? |
| 21:46.49 | gorby | cool ok thx |
| 21:46.57 | MadMax | the tvout is COMPOSITE |
| 21:47.04 | HermanDE | hid3: That is checks that require the use of a DNS query... |
| 21:47.08 | MadMax | its the same with svideo |
| 21:47.18 | UncleD | Anyone here have experience with buying servers and colocating? |
| 21:47.29 | hid3 | Well, my SA doesn't check the blacklists as far as I know.. |
| 21:47.33 | Lafy | how would i go about testing authentication against an ldap server? |
| 21:47.34 | tarzeau | UncleD: can you tell more specific what you need? |
| 21:47.45 | GaiaX11 | Yes I do have php5-common and php5-mysql |
| 21:47.55 | abrotman | GaiaX11: but what are you trying to do with php ? |
| 21:47.57 | MadMax | the question is is it possible with scart to get colours |
| 21:48.02 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: wait you have testing/sid? |
| 21:48.04 | HermanDE | hid3: Might want to check the configs... SA is great except for a bit of a network load if not configured.... |
| 21:48.11 | tarzeau | abrotman: trying to get rooted |
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| 21:48.34 | bizkit | MadMax: there's a difference between the composite and the super-video signal, not much tv's support the super-video so the picture is b/w. be sure to use composite or you'll need an adapter |
| 21:48.36 | Gom | hi |
| 21:48.36 | GaiaX11 | It is just there! |
| 21:48.45 | Eulex | MadMax, try switching from ntsc to pal on the tv (or was it the other way around?) |
| 21:49.02 | Eulex | bizkit, ah. nm me then. |
| 21:49.04 | HermanDE | hid3: On your name server that is running on your box.... Do you have it refer to the hosts file? |
| 21:49.05 | hid3 | is there any good manual/documentation how to configure SA for best performance? I used the provided docs to configure it. |
| 21:49.14 | GaiaX11 | How do i know my ip address? |
| 21:49.19 | MadMax | tried that |
| 21:49.27 | HermanDE | GaiaX11: www.whatismyip.com |
| 21:49.27 | MadMax | and usinc COMPOSITE out |
| 21:49.30 | tarzeau | GaiaX11: telnet linuks.mine.nu 65535 |
| 21:49.35 | UncleD | tarzeau: Yes, I need a server for hosting around 10 different sites, half of which will be regularly accessing postgresql regularly when users on the site are viewing different pages and interacting with the site. I'm trying to figure out the most economical way to get a decent server 1u or 2u, with a good minimum specs that can be upgraded later as things grow. |
| 21:49.51 | hid3 | HermanDE: you mean about /etc/host.conf? |
| 21:50.12 | tarzeau | UncleD: is that for free software stuff or something different? |
| 21:50.19 | bizkit | Eulex: imho the only difference bewteen pal and ntsc is the refresh rate and the resolution, but not the color signal which is different on svhs |
| 21:50.20 | UncleD | some of it will be free software, other parts are tutorials and news. |
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| 21:50.26 | UncleD | one is an open source project. |
| 21:50.27 | gorby | is there a way to 'undo' a dist-upgrade? :) |
| 21:50.31 | HermanDE | hid3: You said that you were running a DNS server on the box. Does the DNS server refer to /etc/resolv.conf .. Yep, hosts was ment to be resolv.conf.. :) |
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| 21:50.39 | bizkit | Eulex: 4 chans on svhs, 3 on composite |
| 21:50.46 | psychonate | MadMax, I have a twinview config that I used to use; it worked fine. Would looking at it help you? |
| 21:50.51 | tarzeau | UncleD: is there something online already? |
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| 21:50.56 | Gom | I've tried to install both 3.1r0a and 3.1r1 through the netinstall ~100mb image from a cdrw and both times it says theres files corrupt on the cd, and its been 2 different cds. both were from bittorrent. when i use the checker it says ./pool/main/r/reiserfsprongs/mireiserfs-ideb_3.6.19-1_i386.udeb has failed md5 checksum verification. i'm installing it on a 3 year old dell 8600 (close enough) can anyone help me |
| 21:50.56 | bizkit | MadMax: yes, your connection is composite, but did you specify the signal to be composite? |
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| 21:51.02 | psychonate | MadClown, it's a CRT monitor + standard TV |
| 21:51.08 | hid3 | HermanDE: Yes, it refers |
| 21:51.16 | Eulex | bizkit, I've experienced that having the tv set to ntsc when the signal was pal or the other way around caused the image to become grayscale. |
| 21:51.19 | abrotman | gorby: not really |
| 21:51.26 | HermanDE | hid3: So, it does sound like a recursive issue..... |
| 21:51.27 | MadMax | http://www.stellano.ee/nodi/xorg.conf |
| 21:51.28 | UncleD | tarzeau: Most everything is in development. We have sister projects online with another business but they are mainly "viewing" html types. |
| 21:51.32 | MadMax | this is my conf |
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| 21:51.50 | blondie | hmm |
| 21:51.58 | tr1gg3r | Gom, md5 the cd prior to burning, looks like maybe a bad image, if it verifies, and u still get same error try to download from another src |
| 21:51.59 | gorby | hrm: if i change my apt sources back to stable and re-run, will things likely get borked? |
| 21:52.02 | HermanDE | hid3: The top name server is 127.0.0.1.. The internal DNS reports that it can't find the requested address then falls back to resolv.conf.... Which refers to 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:52.06 | UncleD | tarzeau: This is the first step into larger scale interactive sites that require regular access of postgresql, users for each site, etc. |
| 21:52.16 | Jonathan` | where is the mysql.so file by default? |
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| 21:52.38 | [^Zapata^] | hello |
| 21:52.40 | UncleD | tarzeau: i'd like to spec out a 1u or 2u server with some decent starting specs that can be expanded on later, and get a feel for some places with reasonable prices for colocation. |
| 21:52.42 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: Depends on the language. |
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| 21:52.54 | psychonate | MadMax, hmm, twinview stuff looks OK to me |
| 21:52.55 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: Perl? PHP? Python? C? |
| 21:53.00 | Jonathan` | Maulkin, PHP |
| 21:53.03 | hid3 | HermanDE: I mentioned that I tried to remove the 127 entry from resolv.conf; still that didn't help |
| 21:53.05 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: 4 or 5? |
| 21:53.07 | MadMax | i think so too |
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| 21:53.09 | Jonathan` | Maulkin, 5 |
| 21:53.14 | Maulkin | /usr/lib/php5/20041030/mysql.so |
| 21:53.20 | Maulkin | On testing... |
| 21:53.31 | hid3 | Now I'm considering to move my dns server somewhere to other machine.. |
| 21:53.36 | UncleD | tarzeau: I've seen so far www.abmx.com and www.serversdirect.com (they let you custom build your machine) - maybe you know of a better company? |
| 21:53.36 | HermanDE | hid3: Does your internal DNS server refer to 127.0.0.1? |
| 21:53.39 | Jonathan` | that folder is blank for me |
| 21:53.40 | Maulkin | Same on Sid |
| 21:53.40 | psychonate | MadMax, you have the right PAL-* I assume? There are many AFAIK |
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| 21:53.51 | [^Zapata^] | does anybody know a command to view webs in "text mode"? |
| 21:53.55 | MadMax | im in estonia |
| 21:53.56 | Gom | tr1gg3r i've tried doing bittorrent (it checks the sums each time) twice with 2 seperate versions |
| 21:53.57 | sj | lynx |
| 21:53.58 | gorby | lynx |
| 21:54.02 | MadMax | and we use pal-b |
| 21:54.07 | MadMax | i guess |
| 21:54.11 | Gom | tr1gg3r then on 2 seperate cds |
| 21:54.12 | HermanDE | [^Zapata^]: view webs.png |
| 21:54.12 | [^Zapata^] | lynx? |
| 21:54.15 | Gom | really weird |
| 21:54.18 | sj | yes, lynx |
| 21:54.19 | [^Zapata^] | I try it |
| 21:54.24 | hid3 | HermanDE: no it refers to my provider's dns |
| 21:54.25 | Jonathan` | there anywhere i can get the mysql.so file? |
| 21:54.31 | sj | ok |
| 21:54.35 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: ? |
| 21:54.40 | bizkit | Eulex: composite uses RGB colors, svhs uses Y/C, that's the point so if you don't use an adapter the input pins for the tv miss a color channel and it's b/w |
| 21:54.40 | Jonathan` | I don't see it :\ |
| 21:54.40 | [^Zapata^] | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:54.46 | Jonathan` | Doesn't seem to be there at all |
| 21:54.46 | sj | lynx |
| 21:54.47 | [^Zapata^] | sorry |
| 21:54.51 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: "apt-get install php5-mysql" ? |
| 21:54.51 | HermanDE | hid3: Then you should be able to remove all the other resolv.conf entries... Just leave the 127 entry... |
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| 21:54.54 | [^Zapata^] | bash: lynx: command not found |
| 21:54.55 | gorby | zapta: apt-get install lynx |
| 21:54.59 | tr1gg3r | Gom, so if the sums match what the debian site says they should be, try to dl from another src (maybe try not bt) |
| 21:55.01 | [^Zapata^] | say it |
| 21:55.08 | [^Zapata^] | ok ok |
| 21:55.12 | MadMax | i gues i need switch then that can convert te signal from scart |
| 21:55.12 | Jonathan` | ah.. didn't realize there was a totally different package |
| 21:55.13 | sj | ok |
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| 21:55.14 | [^Zapata^] | thanks !!!! |
| 21:55.15 | levander | Anybody know a replace for parted that will copy ntfs filesystems? |
| 21:55.20 | hid3 | Will try it. haven't tried such combination |
| 21:55.27 | gorby | zapta: apt-get install w3m |
| 21:55.35 | HermanDE | levander: dd |
| 21:55.38 | sj | apt-get install lynx is better ;-) |
| 21:55.45 | Eulex | bizkit, yeah, that's what I think I saw |
| 21:55.46 | gorby | yeah defo |
| 21:55.49 | MadMax | its strange why the nvidia driver does not support then |
| 21:56.00 | MadMax | on windows its works perfictly |
| 21:56.13 | bizkit | MadMax: you connected your composite video-out to an scart adapter -> tv. show me your config (pastebin) |
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| 21:56.42 | bizkit | whereas this is kind of offtopic in #debian, next time try #nvidia ;-) |
| 21:57.01 | levander | HermanDE, I knew there would come a day when I would have to figure out the dd command. |
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| 21:57.15 | levander | HermanDE, I've been wondering about that damn dd command for ten years |
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| 21:57.27 | bizkit | levander: it's very useful |
| 21:57.27 | MadMax | bizkit: http://www.stellano.ee/nodi/xorg.conf |
| 21:57.29 | HermanDE | levander: dd is just too easy.. |
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| 21:57.38 | stew | levander: what are you trying to do? |
| 21:58.04 | levander | stew: copy an old ntfs partition to a new disk |
| 21:58.16 | stew | levander: then you dont need dd you can just use cp |
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| 21:58.22 | bonden | how do I get around the fact that unrar doesn't exist for etch? help me! |
| 21:58.25 | HermanDE | levander: You mean you got this far without creating linux install disks on floppy with dd? |
| 21:58.27 | levander | HermanDE, start with the dd man page as usual? |
| 21:58.47 | levander | stew: there aren't hidden files and the such I have to concern myself with |
| 21:58.49 | Maulkin | bonden: It does exist |
| 21:58.49 | sj | bonden: write it. |
| 21:58.53 | stew | levander: no |
| 21:59.03 | stew | !info unrar etch |
| 21:59.06 | levander | HermanDE, I've used it on occasion, I just type whatever they've told me to in the past |
| 21:59.08 | dpkg | unrar: (Unarchiver for .rar files (non-free version)), section non-free/utils, is optional. Version: 1:3.5.2-0.1 (etch), Packaged size: 85 kB, Installed size: 216 kB |
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| 21:59.20 | stew | bonden: it's in non-free /msg dpkg non-free |
| 21:59.22 | levander | HermanDE, what do you think of me using cp instead of dd for what I'm trying to do? |
| 21:59.29 | MadMax | on windows all works i install and use composite and everything is great |
| 21:59.39 | bonden | stew: even for etch? I didn't see it. |
| 21:59.49 | MadMax | when i splitted the cables on scart it worked too |
| 21:59.49 | stew | bonden: see what dpkg just said |
| 22:00.05 | levander | stew: so when do you use dd insteap of cp? |
| 22:00.05 | stew | levander: the only difference in using dd vs. cp is with dd you can specify a blocksize |
| 22:00.07 | MadMax | but why do that if it should work normally too |
| 22:00.24 | bonden | stew: sorry man. thanks. |
| 22:00.24 | bizkit | MadMax: try another TVStandard |
| 22:00.24 | Jonathan` | whats the best way to restart mysqld? |
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| 22:00.24 | MadMax | like |
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| 22:00.25 | stew | Jonathan`: /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 22:00.27 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 22:00.28 | Maulkin | Jonathan`: /etc/init.d/mysql restart |
| 22:00.31 | bizkit | Jonathan`: invoke-rc.d mysql restart |
| 22:00.35 | abrotman | bizkit: loser! |
| 22:00.35 | bizkit | =) |
| 22:00.37 | levander | stew, and the blocksize just "optimizes" the transfer between the two locations? |
| 22:00.40 | stew | levander: dd if=source of=dest ; or cp source dest |
| 22:00.49 | stew | levander: yes |
| 22:00.57 | bizkit | abrotman: whereas my version is the neatest one :-P |
| 22:01.05 | MadMax | in estonia we use pal b |
| 22:01.14 | MadMax | and it works worked fine |
| 22:01.24 | MadMax | with win |
| 22:01.33 | stew | levander: are you copying an one entire partition to another? |
| 22:01.36 | MadMax | and when i splitted the scart cable |
| 22:01.40 | levander | stew, dd if=/dev/hdb2 of=/dev/hda2 would copy the contents of /dev/hdb2 to /dev/hda2? |
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| 22:01.44 | stew | levander: are the partitions identical sizes? |
| 22:01.48 | MadMax | to change signal from scart |
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| 22:01.53 | levander | stew, yeah, entire partition |
| 22:01.54 | bizkit | MadMax: can't find anything wrong in there, so if you didn't change the cable connection or switched to svhs on your tv there should be no problem |
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| 22:02.16 | MadMax | :) |
| 22:02.19 | levander | stew, i can make them identical sizes, although that would be a pain and not optimal |
| 22:02.22 | MadMax | thats my problem |
| 22:02.25 | kpanic | hey people, what is the 'xsession' file for the user when using gdm? |
| 22:02.25 | liran_ | uhmm, what do i need to add to /etc/fstab so it automounts an smb directory? |
| 22:02.32 | gorby | I have a system full of testing stuff, if i change my apt source back to stable and run dist-upgrade, should it be able to 'downgrade' without too many probs? |
| 22:02.32 | MadMax | i dont know what might be wrong |
| 22:02.47 | abrotman | gorby: no |
| 22:02.56 | abrotman | gorby: downgrade possible .. but never really a downgrade |
| 22:03.02 | bizkit | MadMax: try again with actual cable setup from windows |
| 22:03.04 | liran_ | kpanic, Xsession - initialize X session |
| 22:03.07 | kpanic | $HOME/.xsession doesn't work |
| 22:03.10 | stew | levander: if the partitions aren't identical sizes, you shouldn't be using cp/dd; in fact, you shouldn't be using linux |
| 22:03.18 | MadMax | then it works |
| 22:03.26 | kpanic | liran_, $HOME/Xsession then? |
| 22:03.26 | MadMax | but why ruin the cable |
| 22:03.32 | levander | stew, what would be wrong with using cp? |
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| 22:03.44 | MadMax | if the same works with win then |
| 22:03.54 | MadMax | why not linux |
| 22:03.57 | levander | stew, you are aware this is ntfs partition, i said that at very beginning |
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| 22:04.12 | stew | levander: yes, but i wasn't aware that you were copying one partition to a partition of another size |
| 22:04.14 | MadMax | the driver are madeby the same company |
| 22:04.16 | bizkit | MadMax: if it works on windows, it works with linux too since this is really a problem with the cable |
| 22:04.18 | messia | sera a tutti |
| 22:04.20 | Gom | forget debian, vistas coming out soon anyways |
| 22:04.20 | sj | thanks |
| 22:04.28 | stew | levander: you can't just copy a filesystem as is to another partition of another size |
| 22:04.36 | liran_ | kpanic, more like /etc/X11/Xsession amd /etc/X11/Xsession.d |
| 22:04.39 | bizkit | MadMax: but i'm not sure what you're problem is, the config looks good |
| 22:04.48 | levander | stew, the original partition is 30gb's but only uses 11gb's. I want to copy it to a partition of size 20gb on another disk |
| 22:05.00 | stew | levander: you can't do that reliably using linux |
| 22:05.05 | MadMax | its probaly the cable and the linux |
| 22:05.11 | MadMax | or the driver |
| 22:05.19 | MadMax | but let it be then |
| 22:05.21 | levander | stew, not even with dd? |
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| 22:05.23 | stew | levander: no |
| 22:05.32 | levander | stew, okay, i'll make them the same size |
| 22:05.34 | MadMax | thanks anyway |
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| 22:05.37 | bizkit | MadMax: you could try the tool nvtv |
| 22:05.42 | stew | levander: you need to use windows. or possibly something like parition magic |
| 22:05.45 | bizkit | MadMax: just to test every option possible |
| 22:05.47 | kpanic | liran_, there there is a USERXSESSION and ALTUSERXSESSION, but it seems no used |
| 22:05.59 | MadMax | ok ill do that |
| 22:06.05 | liran_ | kpanic, no idea what those are |
| 22:06.06 | levander | stew, yeah, i'll just use windows explorer in xp to do the copy I guess |
| 22:06.11 | liran_ | check /etc/X11 |
| 22:06.17 | kpanic | liran_, ok |
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| 22:09.23 | darkcmd | is there any way I can install a fluxbox 0.1.14 package instead of the one that we currently have |
| 22:09.49 | liran_ | what do you currently have? |
| 22:10.08 | darkcmd | the current 0.9 |
| 22:10.10 | darkcmd | release |
| 22:10.14 | abrotman | !info fluxbox sid |
| 22:10.21 | dpkg | fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.14-1 (sid), Packaged size: 827 kB, Installed size: 2844 kB |
| 22:10.33 | abrotman | !info fluxbox experimental |
| 22:10.38 | abrotman | darkcmd: try apt-get.org |
| 22:10.41 | darkcmd | ok |
| 22:10.51 | darkcmd | because I want 0.1.14 which is the stable release |
| 22:11.08 | liran_ | darkcmd, how about compiling and installing from tarball? |
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| 22:11.23 | SexyKen | How can I see what Perl Modules are installed in my debian install? |
| 22:11.51 | darkcmd | true |
| 22:12.27 | bizkit | darkcmd: try openbox instead |
| 22:12.48 | darkcmd | openbox2? |
| 22:12.49 | raz0r | is firefox 1.0.4 last stable version for debian? |
| 22:12.57 | bizkit | darkcmd: 3 |
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| 22:13.10 | blondie | raz0r: it is for sarge |
| 22:13.11 | darkcmd | that doesn't have the slit |
| 22:13.13 | darkcmd | I want the slit |
| 22:13.23 | bizkit | darkcmd: then use 2 |
| 22:13.28 | SexyKen | Oh come on doesn't anyone know how to find out what packages are installed in debian? |
| 22:13.39 | raz0r | blondie: i thought it was 1.5 ? |
| 22:13.48 | bizkit | darkcmd: ob2 was based on blackbox, ob3 is a complete rewrite |
| 22:13.50 | blondie | sarge only has 1.0.4 |
| 22:13.53 | blondie | 1.5 is much too new |
| 22:14.17 | sj | sexyken: use synaptic or something similar |
| 22:14.40 | blondie | raz0r: testing has 1.0.7 and unstable 1.5 |
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| 22:14.58 | liran_ | SexyKen, dpkg is your thing |
| 22:15.17 | darkcmd | yeah |
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| 22:15.23 | abrotman | SexyKen: dpkg --get-selections |
| 22:15.24 | darkcmd | ob3 does not have anything I like |
| 22:15.24 | Omnix | SexyKen: packages or modules? |
| 22:15.27 | darkcmd | I've used it.. it's the suck |
| 22:15.33 | SexyKen | packages |
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| 22:16.16 | staniel | hello, I was wondering if there is anyway to tell what IP address have been given out by a dhcpd server |
| 22:16.54 | Omnix | staniel: it'll be logged to syslog and there should be an active leases file in /var somewhere |
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| 22:17.28 | gorby | SexyKen "apt-cache search | grep perl | less" |
| 22:17.45 | gorby | look for installed :) |
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| 22:18.00 | raz0r | i've tried to get that postfix-amavis-spamassassin thing working, is there a good tutorial for sarge on the web? |
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| 22:18.37 | dserban | When booting my SMP machine into kernel 2.6 my ide cdrom drive fails to "exist"... ie, it's detected in dmesg, but I can never access it ... ie. mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom... /dev/hdc is not a valid block device. When I boot the system in kernel 2.4, it works fine. Where should I begin tracking this problem down? |
| 22:18.45 | soymilk | staniel: on the server or on the client? |
| 22:19.01 | hawking | how can i get SDL? |
| 22:19.12 | staniel | soymilk: on the server |
| 22:19.12 | deadcat | sdl? |
| 22:19.22 | HermanDE | staniel: Sure... check ifconfig |
| 22:19.29 | hawking | deadcat : yes |
| 22:19.32 | soymilk | staniel: i think its in /var/cache/dhcp/leases or something similar |
| 22:19.34 | HermanDE | staniel: or check the logs..... |
| 22:19.35 | staniel | HermanDE: on the server, not the client |
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| 22:19.57 | HermanDE | staniel: Which dhcp server are you running? |
| 22:19.59 | soymilk | staniel: basically look for the leases file, which is in /var |
| 22:20.19 | bizkit | dserban: look into /proc/ide and search for your drive and if everything is detected the right way |
| 22:20.28 | tarzeau | do browser work with http://ipv6address ? someone's got ipv6? |
| 22:20.31 | staniel | dhcpd |
| 22:20.42 | soymilk | maybe its in /var/state/dhcp... |
| 22:20.48 | hawking | how can i get SDL? |
| 22:20.58 | sj | gnavond |
| 22:21.00 | staniel | not in /var/state :( |
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| 22:21.03 | HermanDE | staniel: Is it version 2 or 3? |
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| 22:21.24 | soymilk | staniel: which dhcp server? |
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| 22:21.53 | staniel | found it |
| 22:21.55 | HermanDE | soymilk: At least he got the daemon name correct.. :) |
| 22:21.55 | soymilk | maybe /var/run/...? |
| 22:22.00 | staniel | /var/lib/dhcp :D |
| 22:22.00 | bizkit | hawking: you mean libsdl? |
| 22:22.06 | hawking | configure: error: *** SDL version 1.0.4 not found! |
| 22:22.13 | hawking | bizkit : dunno |
| 22:22.18 | soymilk | staniel: no, i don't think the leases file is in there. is it? |
| 22:22.18 | tarzeau | damn my right shoulder hurts so much, i need something warm on it |
| 22:22.32 | HermanDE | soymilk: For version 2 it is right there.... |
| 22:22.34 | abrotman | or put down the porn |
| 22:22.41 | gorby | hawking: what are you trying to configure? |
| 22:22.42 | tarzeau | abrotman: i was in the snow you dork |
| 22:22.44 | soymilk | staniel: /var/lib is for,, well, libraries .... ah ok |
| 22:22.49 | bizkit | hawking: apt-cache search libsdl and install what you need |
| 22:22.57 | Ungy | tarzeau, you got a dog? |
| 22:23.06 | tarzeau | Ungy: no pets, well grid bugs |
| 22:23.07 | HermanDE | soymilk: variable library files..... |
| 22:23.12 | dserban | bizkit: /dev/hdc: No such file or directory (using hdparm) and yes, the drive seems to be detected properly in /proc/ide |
| 22:23.18 | Ungy | tarzeau, put a laptop on it |
| 22:23.22 | dserban | oh shit, i accidentally installed udev :(... |
| 22:23.25 | abrotman | tarzeau: while looking at porn ? |
| 22:23.28 | dserban | but that's not my problem |
| 22:23.43 | bizkit | dserban: as hdc in /proc/ide? |
| 22:23.44 | lekvar | dserban: fun! |
| 22:23.53 | tarzeau | Ungy: i think i'll get that plastic bag filled with hot water |
| 22:23.57 | Ungy | dserban, how do you accidentally install udev? |
| 22:24.04 | gorby | udev hurt me earler |
| 22:24.12 | lekvar | pretty soon we're all going to have to install udev aren't we? |
| 22:24.16 | tarzeau | abrotman: no but there were sexy women, but it was just too cold for anything like that |
| 22:24.18 | Ungy | tarzeau, and have it leak all over yor computer whil eyour looking at porn? |
| 22:24.23 | staniel | soymilk: yep, its there |
| 22:24.27 | dserban | bizkit: yes |
| 22:24.34 | tarzeau | abrotman: you've got a new friend: Ungy |
| 22:24.38 | abrotman | who do ? |
| 22:24.52 | Ungy | tarzeau, oh we know each other |
| 22:24.58 | soymilk | who is Ungy? |
| 22:25.02 | dserban | Ungy: heh, i was installing hal to see what it'd do with my non-existant /dev/hdc (even though an ls showed the correct major/minor etc) |
| 22:25.02 | abrotman | ungy is a mysql junkie .. it's not his fault he graviatates towards those that use superior software |
| 22:25.12 | Ungy | soymilk, some idiot who dcomes to Debian |
| 22:25.15 | dserban | Ungy: and I got udev installed as a bonus |
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| 22:25.25 | soymilk | odd... |
| 22:25.42 | Ungy | dserban, sweet |
| 22:25.45 | SexyKen | can someone please send me code on how to read a file into an array using csv? |
| 22:25.58 | bizkit | dserban: uninstall udev and run MAKEDEV in /dev? just a try if you don't need udev |
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| 22:26.11 | sammi987 | how do i quickly set up aptget on this ubuntu my freind just installed? |
| 22:26.29 | stew | sammi987: ask #ubuntu |
| 22:26.30 | Ungy | SexyKen, there is lots of code out ther ethat does that spanning many languages |
| 22:26.35 | gorby | sammi987: it should be there already |
| 22:26.36 | dserban | bizkit: yeah I don't need udev.. |
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| 22:26.50 | dserban | though if I uninstall udev... won't it trash my /dev/ directory? |
| 22:26.50 | gorby | sammi987: sudo apt-get |
| 22:26.52 | Ungy | sammi987, it is already there and anyways you should go to #ubuntu |
| 22:27.14 | HermanDE | SexyKen: Do you want it in MS Basic version 1.2? |
| 22:27.20 | gorby | lol |
| 22:27.22 | Ungy | sammi987, aptitude and synaptic should also be there |
| 22:27.38 | dserban | Should I take any precautions before removing udev? |
| 22:27.40 | sammi987 | ungy: i know its installed, i just want to tell it to take more places into its scans |
| 22:27.40 | dserban | :/ |
| 22:27.41 | Ungy | SexyKen, how abotu in Punch Card? |
| 22:27.43 | SexyKen | Ungy: I've looked all over google -- I can't find anything that will read a CSV file (each value into its own row) into an array |
| 22:27.49 | gorby | ill just knock up some assembly for u |
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| 22:27.57 | bizkit | dserban: apt-get remove udev && cd /dev && ./MAKEDEV |
| 22:27.59 | Ungy | sammi987, then your looking to chang ethe /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:28.28 | sammi987 | Ungy: ty just what i needed :) |
| 22:28.38 | HermanDE | Ungy: Is that 'C', assembly or Fortran on the punch card? |
| 22:28.51 | SexyKen | Oh shit lol |
| 22:29.00 | SexyKen | I just noticed I was in the wrong channel ;-) |
| 22:29.05 | Ungy | ?me decides he will shuffle it when he is done |
| 22:29.06 | SexyKen | Your smartassness is now understood. |
| 22:29.14 | dserban | bizkit: :o shit... |
| 22:29.19 | stew | SexyKen: can you use perl? apt-cache search perl csv |
| 22:29.23 | HermanDE | SexyKen: No really, I'm sure we could do a proper punch card for you... |
| 22:29.37 | Ungy | SexyKen, shit dude no really give me the language |
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| 22:30.02 | SexyKen | Perl |
| 22:30.25 | stew | SexyKen: apt-get install libtext-csv-perl ; perldoc Text::CSV |
| 22:30.30 | Ungy | SexyKen, damn stew already got to is |
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| 22:33.15 | HermanDE | Net Spatter... |
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| 22:34.36 | HermanDE | Anybody alive after that one? |
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| 22:35.41 | SmartUnix | back |
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| 22:35.54 | abrotman | SmartUnix: did it compile ? |
| 22:36.05 | SmartUnix | i don't found makefile ! |
| 22:36.09 | abrotman | what? |
| 22:36.17 | abrotman | i just used it theo ther night |
| 22:36.25 | SmartUnix | in readme |
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| 22:36.56 | SmartUnix | it's request from me to open makefile and edit it |
| 22:37.02 | SmartUnix | but i don't found it |
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| 22:37.54 | SmartUnix | any sloution :( |
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| 22:38.11 | staniel | during the installation, it the installer asked for my domain name, I know I messed it up, so is there anyway to change that? |
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| 22:38.44 | stew | staniel: man resolv.conf |
| 22:39.10 | staniel | stew: umm.... that doesn't have any domain settings in it? |
| 22:39.30 | stew | staniel: it does |
| 22:39.40 | HermanDE | staniel: I'm late to the game after the net spatter.... What did you install? |
| 22:39.54 | tuv | when i wake up my laptop after a suspend-to-ram, it wakes up alright but immediately shuts down as if shutdown command was issued. how can i fix that? |
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| 22:40.40 | staniel | HermanDE: when I installed debian from a net install cd |
| 22:40.45 | staniel | it asked for a host name and domain name |
| 22:40.48 | bohdan | hello |
| 22:40.58 | staniel | I screwed up the domain name, and didnt' bother to fix it, but now I want to |
| 22:41.05 | HermanDE | staniel: Stew is on the right track... |
| 22:41.56 | staniel | .... |
| 22:42.00 | HermanDE | bohdan: hello, did you see a guy is blue spandex and a red cape run through the building? |
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| 22:42.32 | HermanDE | staniel: check hosts and resolv.conf.. Pretty easy... |
| 22:42.37 | tuv | what could be issueing a shutdown command after a wake up from suspend-to-ram? |
| 22:42.48 | HermanDE | tuv: What does your log file show? |
| 22:42.50 | bohdan | I am trying to get real time sound responses from arts, debian-testing, custome kerne; 2.6.14 preemption set to maximum, arts was given highest priority and I still have 1/2 second delay |
| 22:42.51 | staniel | HermanDE: but I don't see the domain name |
| 22:43.13 | bohdan | does anyone have a clue? |
| 22:43.36 | HermanDE | staniel: Did you actually set a domain name? |
| 22:43.44 | SmartUnix | ok , where i can found smart link modem drives for gcc4 ? |
| 22:43.45 | dserban | wheee! |
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| 22:43.56 | HermanDE | bohdan: Is this a newer system? What is your load? |
| 22:44.04 | dserban | eject: unable to open `/dev/hdc' |
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| 22:44.09 | dserban | wtf.... |
| 22:44.10 | stew | staniel: under DESCRIPTION, "The different configuration options are:" "domain: Local domain name" |
| 22:44.11 | staniel | HermanDE: umm, if the installer sets it when you type in what you want then yes |
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| 22:44.32 | stew | staniel: and the third "search Search list for host-name lookup" |
| 22:44.32 | bohdan | HermanDE : P IV, load 0% |
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| 22:44.36 | abrotman | pipeline: are you still banned ? |
| 22:44.57 | bohdan | HermanDE , sorry no % ofcourse |
| 22:45.07 | bizkit | dserban: working? |
| 22:45.13 | dserban | bizkit: nope... |
| 22:45.20 | dserban | eject: unable to open `/dev/hdc' |
| 22:45.26 | HermanDE | staniel: The config sets it up in resolv.conf and hosts It's that easy.... |
| 22:45.45 | HermanDE | staniel: Unless you setup other tools like a DNS, DHCP or samba server..... |
| 22:45.54 | bohdan | HermanDE I also tried to set setuid for artswrapper |
| 22:45.59 | bizkit | dserban: well that's another problem |
| 22:46.11 | bizkit | dserban: could you mount it? can you use hdparm /dev/hdc |
| 22:46.12 | tuv | HermanDE: Dec 28 17:02:26 localhost shutdown[6762]: shutting down for system halt |
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| 22:46.30 | dserban | If I do an ls -l hdc.. I get brw-rw---- 1 root disk 22, 0 Dec 28 14:28 hdc |
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| 22:46.49 | dserban | Nope, can't mount... let me try hdc |
| 22:46.49 | yabb | bonjour |
| 22:46.54 | dserban | err hdparm |
| 22:46.59 | HermanDE | bohdan: I'd ask how many processes you are running, but if the 5 minute load is 0 it should be clean..... |
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| 22:47.12 | dserban | janus:/dev# hdparm /dev/hdc |
| 22:47.14 | dserban | /dev/hdc: No such device or address |
| 22:47.19 | HermanDE | bohdan: What is the load when playing... That is the 5 minute load.... |
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| 22:47.36 | HermanDE | dserban: Are you a udev guy as well? |
| 22:47.39 | gorby | dserban: is that the name of the computer from judge dread? |
| 22:47.43 | bohdan | HermanDE: only one, give me moment I will give you load when playing |
| 22:47.51 | dserban | HermanDE: heh no... just uninstalled it. |
| 22:48.03 | dserban | gorby: no.. a moon of... saturn? or jupiter? |
| 22:48.11 | HermanDE | dserban: Time to remake all of your devices... :) |
| 22:48.20 | stew | HermanDE: why, his device is correct |
| 22:48.29 | dserban | HermanDE: I ran MAKEDEV in /dev. anything else I need to do? |
| 22:48.30 | gorby | dserban: ahhh they probably copy from there :) |
| 22:48.40 | stew | dserban: nothing, the /dev/hdc is correct |
| 22:48.51 | dserban | gorby: it's been so long since I've seen that crappy movie :) |
| 22:49.18 | gorby | I get upset when people insult stalone/arnie |
| 22:49.25 | dserban | So... This is seriously the most perplexing issue I've dealt with in linux in ages... |
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| 22:49.39 | tarzeau | arnie terminator in politics schwarzenegger? |
| 22:49.39 | dserban | gorby: heh, kindergarten cop sucked too ;) |
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| 22:49.49 | HermanDE | dserban: What does the log file say? |
| 22:49.59 | stew | dserban: are you sure /dev/hdc is the correct address? what is it? a hard drive? a cdrom? |
| 22:50.03 | tuv | just what script files are run when a machine wakes up after a suspend-to-ram. i looked into /etc/acpi/actions/lm_lid.sh and found laptop_mode auto. |
| 22:50.03 | dserban | let me check (last time I checked.. nothing) |
| 22:50.26 | dserban | stew: it's a cdrw.. and yes, linux detects it correctly... it's listed and active in /proc/ide |
| 22:50.29 | HermanDE | I take great affluence with people critizing the great action hero films.... |
| 22:50.30 | stew | dserban: do you have ide-scsi loaded? |
| 22:50.39 | stew | dserban: do you have ide-cd loaded? |
| 22:51.12 | stew | dserban: and what does "uname -r" say? |
| 22:51.13 | dserban | stew: nope... ide-scsi doesn't show in lsmod|grep ide |
| 22:51.19 | gorby | "cyberdint systems model 101" "My CPU is a neural net processor" |
| 22:51.25 | dserban | stew: no, ide-cd isn't loaded |
| 22:51.26 | gorby | quality |
| 22:51.27 | stew | dserban: you need ide-cd |
| 22:51.32 | dserban | err |
| 22:51.42 | HermanDE | tuv: I rember fighting a script on an apple. It had to do with the apm utilities.... on Woody... |
| 22:51.43 | bohdan | HermanDE : it gives me 0.5 +/- |
| 22:51.48 | SmartUnix | will "slmodem-2.9.9d.tar.gz" work with gcc3 ?? |
| 22:51.52 | dserban | modprobe ide-cd |
| 22:51.53 | dserban | FATAL: Module ide_cd not found. |
| 22:51.55 | SmartUnix | sorry gcc4 |
| 22:52.03 | stew | dserban: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 22:52.04 | HermanDE | bohdan: And you still have a 1.5 second lag? |
| 22:52.07 | bohdan | HermanDE : with peaks to 0.9 when starting playin |
| 22:52.13 | dserban | stew: I believe it's built in (my own kernel) |
| 22:52.29 | dserban | stew: janus:/dev# uname -r |
| 22:52.30 | dserban | 2.6.14 |
| 22:52.53 | HermanDE | bohdan: That is almost one thread waiting for something to complete..... For 5 minutes..... |
| 22:52.58 | bohdan | yes, it is 0.5s. It is hardly notice in music playing, but I wast messing up with pygame and noticed this |
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| 22:53.02 | stew | dserban: grep CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 22:53.15 | stew | dserban: does it return y or m or n? |
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| 22:53.31 | HermanDE | bohdan: Might want to check to see what may be hogging the cpu.... |
| 22:53.58 | samuel | anyone know what package replaces lame? why is it not in the apt catalogue? |
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| 22:54.11 | HermanDE | bohdan: that is .5 seconds? Wow.. Uh, I don't think I could notice that... |
| 22:54.22 | stew | samuel: debian cannot provide mp3 encoders becuase they are protected by patents; but marillat has it /msg dpkg marillat |
| 22:54.37 | cheal | samuel: what do you mean by replacing lame? because lame isn't in Debian? |
| 22:54.38 | UncleD | Can anyone recommend a place to colocate my debian server? www.layeredtech.com is who i've looked at so far. |
| 22:54.43 | dserban | stew: # CONFIG_BLK_DEV_IDECD is not set |
| 22:54.44 | SevenIsPrime | *ahem* I have a possible RTFM/FAQ problem. I have read a lot about it, yet I can't get it to work. GTK-based applications under my KDE desktop use fonts of size 2 or so. I mean, they are small beyound readable. |
| 22:54.45 | dserban | :/ |
| 22:54.57 | stew | dserban: there's your answer |
| 22:55.01 | jbAU | ok - quick question. I want to cat | grep a config file to remove the hashed out lines, I used grep -v '#' to remove the hashes but I want to remove the new lines that that produces... |
| 22:55.10 | dserban | stew: do you know which menu item it would be in make menuconfig? |
| 22:55.13 | samuel | stew, cheal: thanks, i remember having it b4, just forgot it was in marillat |
| 22:55.14 | HermanDE | UncleD: Server Beach has some good linux boxen for rent.... Debian is an option.... |
| 22:55.14 | SevenIsPrime | I have installed gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and set it to "just as my KDE stuff", but it does not help. |
| 22:55.23 | bohdan | HermanDE: the issue is, when you try to o real time sound - like hit the wall and play the sound. If it is played 1/2s later, its messing |
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| 22:55.48 | SevenIsPrime | Any help appreciated. |
| 22:56.00 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: did you logout/login ? |
| 22:56.01 | stew | dserban: not off the top of my head, i rarely compile kernels |
| 22:56.11 | bohdan | HermanDE mostly my CPU is consumed from player cca 10% |
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| 22:56.23 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: I did close the session and relogged. But I could reboot I suppose. |
| 22:56.23 | petemc | jbAU: grep -v ^" "*# file > newfile |
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| 22:56.42 | HermanDE | bohdan: Just to make sure I understand.... You are running pygame and it is accessing an alsa device... |
| 22:56.50 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: other than that .. check the docs in /usr/share/doc/gtk2-engines-gtk-qt/* |
| 22:56.52 | bohdan | HermanDE: yes |
| 22:56.54 | dserban | stew: <*> Include IDE/ATAPI CDROM support |
| 22:57.00 | dserban | there it is... but not saved :/ |
| 22:57.03 | dserban | weird |
| 22:57.16 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman, There are docs? Usually those dirs only contain copyright and version info :) |
| 22:57.19 | bohdan | HermanDE : basically anything is accessing sound devices has a lag |
| 22:57.27 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: i don't know .. you should look though :) |
| 22:57.34 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: I will check it. Thanks for the hint. brb., |
| 22:57.39 | jbAU | petemc: hmm thanks petemc but that also produced blanked lines in the output |
| 22:57.43 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: which version of debian ? |
| 22:57.54 | dserban | stew: hrrm... i unset it... reset it... and saved it... still not set. |
| 22:58.17 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: Just as I feared. Three files, useless: changelog.Debian.gz changelog.gz copyright |
| 22:58.17 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: ah .. you're right .. notm uch there ... |
| 22:58.37 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: TBH .. not sure if this is a KDE or Gnome issue .. did you check the BTS ? |
| 22:58.38 | HermanDE | bohdan: I'd take a close look at your alsa drivers..... |
| 22:58.39 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: /usr/share/doc is a waste of diskspace really. |
| 22:58.41 | stew | dserban: wait are you checking in .config in the kernel source directory? or still checking in /boot/ ? |
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| 22:58.49 | HermanDE | bohdan: There may be a special setting for your sound card... |
| 22:59.04 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: It is a KDE/GNOME interoperability issue. The one party always points to the other. It is awful. |
| 22:59.09 | stew | jbAU: grep -v would not produce and blank lines that weren't already there, it doesn't modify any lines, it just prints them as is or omits them entirely |
| 22:59.18 | dserban | stew: in .config |
| 22:59.25 | kristalino | hi. How many cd do i need to install a debian base system (without network) ? |
| 22:59.28 | bohdan | HermanDE : btw I am not completely sure, I have downloaded SDL-all from rep, so I am not 100% sure if it is ALSA or aRTs. Btw how to check drivers? |
| 22:59.29 | jbAU | stew: it produces blank lines where there were hashes |
| 22:59.36 | HermanDE | kristalino: One. |
| 22:59.38 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: the solution . move to blackbox! :) |
| 22:59.38 | tarzeau | SevenIsPrime: and they all forget about GNUstep! |
| 22:59.39 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: Gnomians always tell me to "just switch to gnome" and my problems would disappear. True. But then I'd have other issues running KDE apps. |
| 22:59.49 | tarzeau | abrotman: that's just an x window manager |
| 22:59.50 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: you may or may not .. |
| 22:59.57 | abrotman | tarzeau: and .. what's your point ? |
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| 23:00.02 | kristalino | HermanDE, only the first one ? |
| 23:00.03 | bohdan | HermanDE : it depends on SDL, which access to sound it preffer |
| 23:00.03 | secher | there's a bash keystroke combination to search up through your bash_history as you type, what's that command? |
| 23:00.04 | tarzeau | SevenIsPrime: try GNUstep! |
| 23:00.05 | stew | jbAU: if that is true, your grep is broken |
| 23:00.07 | HermanDE | bohdan: So you could be playing pygame through arts which is calling alsa.... Sounds like a long pipe.... :) |
| 23:00.10 | abrotman | !gnustepsmite tarzeau |
| 23:00.12 | HermanDE | kristalino: Yep.... |
| 23:00.13 | tarzeau | SevenIsPrime: all your gnome and kde problems will disappear |
| 23:00.18 | sinizzl | hi, i have a problem with my bt878 based tv card, i.e. i can't tune in correctly |
| 23:00.19 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: It can't be the answer, really. Come on, this is Linux. It should work, regardless of WM. |
| 23:00.22 | abrotman | and you'll have so many other problems :) |
| 23:00.28 | kristalino | HermanDE, k, thanks |
| 23:00.29 | tarzeau | abrotman: heh, you said that |
| 23:00.30 | HermanDE | bohdan: And then sdl... |
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| 23:00.36 | abrotman | SevenIsPrime: of course .. the problem here is that .. you want it pretty :) |
| 23:00.40 | jbAU | stew: right. well it does it on debian 3.1, macosx? anyhow |
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| 23:00.57 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: I'd settle for "readable" at the moment. |
| 23:01.03 | Thorrn4 | hello everyone!! I was wondering: how can Debian started? |
| 23:01.05 | bohdan | HermanDE: event other software, which uses arts directly has this lag |
| 23:01.05 | secher | SevenIsPrime: get Enlightenment. Pretty, fast, configurable, and clean. |
| 23:01.14 | SevenIsPrime | abrotman: I mean, that size is just too small even for the enthusiast. |
| 23:01.15 | stew | jbAU: if grep is altering lines at all it is broken |
| 23:01.19 | tuv | anybody here who actually uses suspend-to-ram?? |
| 23:01.25 | HermanDE | kristalino: The debian system is setup such that the most important/popular packages are on disk 1 and the it overflows to the other disks....2 is the next import/popular...3 is the next... and so on.... |
| 23:01.31 | soymilk | tuv: i uses swsusp2 |
| 23:01.40 | bohdan | HermanDE : but probably you are right, dosbox, which is going for alsa has the same lag |
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| 23:01.45 | secher | SevenIsPrime: course I have no idea what you and brotman are talkig about.. so I'll shut my mouth. er... fingers I guess. |
| 23:01.52 | kristalino | HermanDE, ok, i thought the first 3 were mandatory |
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| 23:01.56 | soymilk | tuv: and i make typos alot :-) |
| 23:01.56 | debian_pwnz | can anyone see if they can download jre1.5 update 6 from sun. i can download the file, but its not a 15mb file, its a 15byte file when opened in text editor says file not found, wget java.address.com(ex) gives also a 404 on that files url |
| 23:01.57 | HermanDE | bohdan: Yep... |
| 23:02.00 | bohdan | HermanDE : how would you "check" the driver |
| 23:02.01 | bohdan | ? |
| 23:02.10 | tuv | soymilk: that's suspend-to-disk. btw, did you have to apply a kernel patch and recompile your kernel? |
| 23:02.11 | SevenIsPrime | Ok, let me rephrase my question :) Is there any way to make GTK/Gnome based apps NOT use a fonts of size 2 or less? |
| 23:02.19 | SevenIsPrime | within KDE. |
| 23:02.27 | HermanDE | kristalino: Nope... This is debian. You could do a basic install with a cd containing 150M.... |
| 23:02.33 | SevenIsPrime | I am atm not interested in switching WM. |
| 23:02.33 | soymilk | tuv: yes you apply a kernel patch. but it works nicely (without kde that is) |
| 23:02.54 | HermanDE | kristalino: And I've been sucessful with 20MiB... Again that is "BASIC".... |
| 23:02.57 | SevenIsPrime | HermanDE: 80 MB :) |
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| 23:03.07 | abrotman | !gtk2 fonts |
| 23:03.09 | soymilk | tuv: my laptop is so new that suspend-to-ram isn't functional |
| 23:03.09 | abrotman | !gtk2 font |
| 23:03.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, gtk2 font is to change the default font, add something like "gtk-font-name = "Verdana 12"" to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0, or try gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 23:03.10 | KLDi | wtf .. every nick I try to register is taken |
| 23:03.19 | HermanDE | bohdan: It's been awhile for me... :) |
| 23:03.58 | bohdan | anyway when using `aplay sound.wav` there is no lag ... |
| 23:03.59 | tuv | soymilk: suspend-to-ram is working for me, except that wake up is always followed by an immediate shutdown!! i'm dieing to know what is issuing that shutdown |
| 23:04.07 | bohdan | HermanDE: anyway when using `aplay sound.wav` there is no lag ... |
| 23:04.10 | soymilk | tuv: plus it has HT cpu so apparently susp-to-ram can never work on it |
| 23:04.10 | HermanDE | SevenIsPrime: How about a basic install with 3 floppies.... Or a netbooted 150MiB that would pump out a clean box in about 10 minutes... |
| 23:04.11 | kristalino | HermanDE, :) |
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| 23:04.32 | debian_pwnz | every file is a 404 on java jre download |
| 23:04.34 | debian_pwnz | this is fucked up |
| 23:04.40 | HermanDE | bohdan: Could it be SDL + arts? |
| 23:04.40 | tuv | soymilk: do HT and suspend-to-ram have a known conflict? |
| 23:04.47 | stew | debian_pwnz: on java.sun.com? |
| 23:04.48 | deadcat | debian_pwnz: ya. java suck on linux |
| 23:04.51 | soymilk | tuv: yes it says so right in the kernel docs |
| 23:05.05 | debian_pwnz | stew, yes |
| 23:05.06 | SevenIsPrime | Ok, now something entirely different. I have this IBM T43 notebook here. I begin to dislike it for it's funky disk layout. It seems to be some weird pata/sata stuff (a PATA disk on a SATA end or vice versa), anyhow. My hard disk is SATA at /dev/sda but I cannot access my dvd drive, which is regular IDE I suppose. |
| 23:05.09 | kristalino | HermanDE, is 1 cd enought to have ipw2200 drivers |
| 23:05.12 | debian_pwnz | stew, check it |
| 23:05.15 | SevenIsPrime | It is again not strictly debian related ... |
| 23:05.18 | teufel | why won't debian let me insatll a program I downloaded? (java runetime environment) I'm in the right directory and I do ./javainstall.bin |
| 23:05.21 | SevenIsPrime | but maybe someone knows what to do? |
| 23:05.28 | deadcat | kristalino: no. ipw2200 is NOT in any cds |
| 23:05.37 | bohdan | HermanDE : that would explain pygame, but not dosbox, which is yelding to use ALSA |
| 23:05.53 | SevenIsPrime | I have tried the append "atapi_enabled=1" |
| 23:05.57 | HermanDE | kristalino: WTF is an IPW2200? |
| 23:06.07 | stew | debian_pwnz: works for me |
| 23:06.07 | deadcat | HermanDE: wireless |
| 23:06.19 | Servo888 | Is it possible to block an application from access to anything beyound localhost? iptables can restrict ports, but that's not something I need. |
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| 23:06.23 | stew | !ipw2200 |
| 23:06.23 | dpkg | ipw2200 is a wireless driver for intel wireless cards, to install: m-a prepare && m-a a-i ieee80211 ipw2200. you will need module-assistant, build-essential and kernel-headers-$(uname -r) packages installed, and you will need contrib sources, ask me about <contrib>. Download and install firmware as you are told during the install. http://ipw2200.sf.net, or for help go to #ipw2200, or ipw2200-source will only compile on a 2.6 kernel |
| 23:06.26 | SevenIsPrime | and I have the "ata_piix" modules included. |
| 23:06.31 | HermanDE | bohdan: It could be that you are using oss->ALSA. Your devices are trying to pump to OSS which is converting to ALSA.... |
| 23:06.32 | kristalino | deadcat, how to install it on debian ? |
| 23:06.35 | cheal | teufel: it's because you're a bad guy |
| 23:06.40 | teufel | when I try and do ./installjava.bin it gives me the error: line 1: file: command not found... |
| 23:06.41 | kristalino | HermanDE, module for wifi ethernet card |
| 23:06.43 | deadcat | kristalino: install debian, then follow ^^ instruction |
| 23:06.50 | teufel | cheal: /gasp! complete heal? |
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| 23:06.56 | stew | teufel: /msg dpkg java-package |
| 23:07.03 | cheal | teufel: do you know about java-package? |
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| 23:07.08 | debian_pwnz | stew, i download the self extracting linux .bin file, but every time i download it its only a 15byte file containg file not found when i open it in text editor |
| 23:07.09 | teufel | nope |
| 23:07.11 | debian_pwnz | whats up with that |
| 23:07.21 | deadcat | kristalino: kernel 2.6.14 HAS the driver built-in. but i heard its old and crappy. so just build it yourself. |
| 23:07.23 | cheal | teufel: see stew's pointer |
| 23:07.28 | HermanDE | kristalino: If it is supported with the kernel in Woody.. Then yes.... |
| 23:07.35 | teufel | cheal: on it, thanks stew |
| 23:07.51 | stew | debian_pwnz: you are saving a redirect, not the .bin itself, click on the file in your browser and select save to disk |
| 23:07.52 | SevenIsPrime | debian_pwnz, Are you behind some firewall? |
| 23:07.55 | soymilk | tuv: see /usr/src/linux/Documentation/power/video.txt and search for "SMP" |
| 23:07.59 | bohdan | HermanDE : definitely it is alsa. I trid to `export SDL_AUDIODRIVER=alsa` and it has the same problems |
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| 23:08.07 | deadcat | why the fuck are you using a woody install? i knows its nicer than the d-i, but woody is old kernel. |
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| 23:08.10 | soymilk | tuv: "S3 has absolutely |
| 23:08.10 | soymilk | no chance of working with SMP/HT" |
| 23:08.23 | HermanDE | bohdan: Which sound card are you using? |
| 23:08.27 | debian_pwnz | stew. SevenIsPrime, that is what I have been doing. |
| 23:08.30 | jbAU | debian_pwnz: also using the file command can assist you in what type of file it is (in your case probably a html/text instead of a binary) |
| 23:08.37 | stew | debian_pwnz: are you on stable? |
| 23:08.48 | debian_pwnz | stew, etch |
| 23:08.49 | HermanDE | bohdan: So, aplayer works fine... The SDL+ALSA works slow... |
| 23:09.13 | bohdan | HermanDE : Intel 82801DB-ICH4 with STAC9750 |
| 23:09.29 | stew | debian_pwnz: what browser are you using? |
| 23:09.39 | HermanDE | bohdan: Sounds like one of the intel soft sound cards..... |
| 23:09.55 | bohdan | HermanDE : don't know exactly |
| 23:09.58 | debian_pwnz | dillo |
| 23:10.06 | debian_pwnz | stew, dillo |
| 23:10.19 | stew | debian_pwnz: actually wait |
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| 23:10.38 | stew | debian_pwnz: i am seeing the same here, the first time i was looking at an older one i had downloaded |
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| 23:10.51 | debian_pwnz | so its not me |
| 23:10.53 | stew | debian_pwnz: have you tried 1.4.2? or do you need 1.5? |
| 23:11.12 | Inmula | I am using an old 233 MHz Dell Latitude laptop (battery still good) as a network gateway. Can I disable the backlight via APM? |
| 23:11.27 | stew | debian_pwnz: you could try downloading the package from debian-unofficial.org and dpkg -i it |
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| 23:12.17 | bohdan | HermanDE : definitely `artsplay something.wav` has the lag ... |
| 23:12.29 | debian_pwnz | stew, i could use 1.4 for firefox but for azuerus i need 1.5. also, i don't need azeurs if i can find a decent torrent client. i used to use qtorrent, up until today, when updated to etch and the program is stripped, there is configs or other functions, dujnno what happened |
| 23:12.35 | debian_pwnz | what the hell is debian unofficial |
| 23:12.36 | debian_pwnz | hmm |
| 23:12.36 | soymilk | Inmula: check the man page for xset |
| 23:12.37 | debian_pwnz | br |
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| 23:12.56 | Inmula | soymilk: Thanks. |
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| 23:13.04 | stew | debian_pwnz: what's wrong with bittorrent or bittornado? |
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| 23:13.28 | stew | debian_pwnz: and have you checked the bts for qtorrent and /usr/share/doc/qtorrent? |
| 23:13.53 | portxxx | i from venezuela and i have a problemmm |
| 23:13.53 | debian_pwnz | I download from a specific mma tracker, i require other functions besides the basic |
| 23:14.15 | portxxx | im a rookie on debia but i like it jejejeje |
| 23:14.15 | stew | debian_pwnz: try debian-unofficial.org's package then |
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| 23:14.44 | debian_pwnz | btw |
| 23:14.48 | debian_pwnz | mixed martial arts ownz |
| 23:15.00 | debian_pwnz | anyway, carry on |
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| 23:15.36 | HermanDE | bohdan: I think this is the site for your ALSA drivers: http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?company=Intel&card=ICH+southbridge+AC97+modem.&chip=440MX%2C+i810%2C+i810E%2C+i820%2C+ICH4%2C+ICH5%2C+ICH6&module=intel8x0m |
| 23:15.41 | portxxx | how can i configure my debian for start in Grafic mode..without loguin and type startx in cnsole?? |
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| 23:16.14 | philips | portxxx: xdm, gdm, kdm, google about |
| 23:16.23 | portxxx | kde |
| 23:16.23 | soymilk | portxxx: install (k|x|g)dm and make sure it is set to run in your default runlevel |
| 23:16.34 | bohdan | HermanDE : you would not believe it if I wait for timout of arts an then use `artsplay someting.wav` it is fine, but any consequent running of this command causes the delay! |
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| 23:16.57 | soymilk | portxxx: grep default /etc/inittab |
| 23:16.58 | LoneWlf | Anyone know which way I should run samba, ie daemons or inetd? |
| 23:17.00 | HermanDE | bohdan: Threads... Might be time for kernel tweaking... |
| 23:17.30 | bohdan | HermanDE : I set maximum preemption when compiling kernel |
| 23:17.32 | portxxx | when my system start..begin in console..i whant to star automatycly in grafic mode... |
| 23:17.35 | HermanDE | bohdan: Or checking to see what is currently running.... |
| 23:17.48 | Cha1ns4w | bohdan>read up |
| 23:17.50 | HermanDE | bohdan: That is only one step... Next is to optimize /proc |
| 23:18.44 | bohdan | Chalns4w: ? |
| 23:19.11 | bohdan | HermanDE any exact point? |
| 23:19.23 | portxxx | with that sentence my system be configured? |
| 23:20.00 | portxxx | somebody speak spanish??? |
| 23:20.07 | Eulex | !es |
| 23:20.07 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 23:20.19 | kristalino | in wich cdrom is Module-assistant ? |
| 23:20.22 | debian_pwnz | stew, is debian unofficial only for sarge? |
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| 23:20.44 | teufel | stew: I dont have a java-package. It says to apt-get install java-package but mine says there isn't one... its up to day |
| 23:20.48 | Eulex | debian_pwnz, umh, debian unofficial what? |
| 23:20.49 | stew | debian_pwnz: yes, but afaik the java packages would work on etch as well, download one and dpkg -i it |
| 23:21.00 | stew | Eulex: http://debian-unofficial.org |
| 23:21.05 | debian_pwnz | ok |
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| 23:21.08 | HermanDE | bohdan: Again... It's been awhile since I've done optimizations through proc... |
| 23:21.15 | stew | Eulex: think backports, but not really backports but more like marillat |
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| 23:21.37 | HermanDE | bohdan: I can remember setting file handlers in the 2.4 kernel.... |
| 23:21.43 | portxxx | dpkg: podrias ayudarme..mi sytema debian cuando inicia caen en consola y tengo que loguearme y luego iniciar con STARTX...como puedo hacer que eso sea automatico |
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| 23:22.06 | Eulex | stew, ah. never heard. guess it's time I do. |
| 23:22.14 | portxxx | hay alguna forma de hacerlo... |
| 23:22.32 | bohdan | HermanDE : probably I try it on different hw setup |
| 23:22.35 | HermanDE | portxxx: DPKG is a botimatic |
| 23:22.44 | Eulex | portxxx, dpkg is a bot. la lengua de #debian es inglés. |
| 23:23.01 | HermanDE | or is it a botomagic? |
| 23:23.05 | portxxx | ok que hago con eso.. |
| 23:23.11 | portxxx | soy muy principiante... |
| 23:23.15 | stew | portxxx: /join #debian-es |
| 23:23.24 | portxxx | apnas tengo una semana usando debian... |
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| 23:23.31 | stew | portxxx: stop |
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| 23:23.34 | bohdan | HermanDE : anyway thanx |
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| 23:24.11 | HermanDE | bohdan: no probs... Now I'm starting to dig through the 2.6 proc docs... GAWD.... I can see my future of tweaking tonight.... |
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| 23:24.26 | ilred | hi |
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| 23:24.58 | portxxx | nobody is that chanel debian.es |
| 23:25.06 | bohdan | HermanDE : i will try to contact guys from arts about this |
| 23:25.16 | teufel | thanks again stew |
| 23:25.21 | streuner | portxxx: speak english then |
| 23:25.44 | ilred | i've problems with sid+xine+fglrx....xvinfo: no adaptors present |
| 23:25.54 | stew | [freenode] -!- #debian-es 83 |
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| 23:26.09 | portxxx | i try men... |
| 23:26.21 | portxxx | but you can help |
| 23:26.26 | portxxx | please... |
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| 23:26.52 | stew | portxxx: we will try to help if you ask a question in english |
| 23:27.24 | portxxx | what i have to do for start my sytem in |
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| 23:27.47 | portxxx | KDE Mode automaticly |
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| 23:27.54 | streuner | for 'startx'? |
| 23:27.59 | stew | portxxx: apt-get install kdm |
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| 23:28.17 | portxxx | without login by console and type STARTX |
| 23:28.22 | fndude | Is there a Debian way of have multiple versions of gcc? |
| 23:28.34 | streuner | portxxx: or just edit ~/.xsession and put 'exec startkde' into that file |
| 23:28.44 | streuner | portxxx: /msg dpkg wm |
| 23:28.57 | stew | fndude: yes ls /usr/bin/gcc* ; you may already have multiple versions |
| 23:29.19 | stew | fndude: they would be installed as gcc-4.0 gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4, etc |
| 23:29.24 | portxxx | i star with apt-get...i wait a minute |
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| 23:29.30 | portxxx | start |
| 23:29.34 | streuner | portxxx: /msg dpkg nodm , as well. |
| 23:29.34 | portxxx | sorry |
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| 23:30.02 | dsotm | does anyone know of a howto for installing debian to a flash drive similar to what damnsmalllinux is, but without the compressed filesystem? |
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| 23:30.43 | fndude | stew: nice, I assume I can change the symlink and off I go, correct? |
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| 23:31.11 | numist | is there a quick and dirty command I can use to get the list of all installed packages on my system? |
| 23:31.28 | streuner | numist: dpkg -l |
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| 23:31.36 | streuner | numist: dpkg -l | less |
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| 23:32.07 | numist | excellent, thanks |
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| 23:32.32 | portxxx | i install kdm module...and now what??? |
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| 23:33.08 | streuner | portxxx: in order to use 'startx' just get rid of kdm |
| 23:33.21 | streuner | !tell portxxx about nodm |
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| 23:34.00 | foo | Weird. I do startx on my laptop and I get a /etc/X11/X is not executable ... xinit: Server error. ... weird, any ideas? Only thing I can think of is an upgrade broke this. |
| 23:34.26 | streuner | foo: apt-get install x-window-system |
| 23:34.28 | philips | foo: did you try checking the perms on /etc/X11/X :-) |
| 23:34.32 | portxxx | when i start my sytem, what i have to do??? o my system start automact |
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| 23:35.05 | foo | philips: Yes, perms are fine. |
| 23:35.15 | foo | streuner: hmm, apparently XFree86 binary is missing. Weird. |
| 23:35.19 | streuner | portxxx: usually in debian there is a DM (display manager) installed, it boots auto to X |
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| 23:35.43 | portxxx | ah alright... |
| 23:35.46 | foo | streuner: I am doing that. An upgrade must of borked this ... I've had X working on this laptop |
| 23:36.09 | teufel | is there a command like ctr+alt+delete in linux that will pop up processes running? |
| 23:36.20 | streuner | foo: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i VGA' say? |
| 23:36.30 | portxxx | if the module KDM is install now..i dont have anything more...?? |
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| 23:36.43 | edgey | hmm |
| 23:36.54 | foo | streuner: Radeon Mobility M6 ... I can't copy any paste. Anything specific? |
| 23:36.55 | edgey | any reason why i can't grub-install? |
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| 23:37.06 | edgey | i get an access denied error on /dev/sbin |
| 23:37.24 | edgey | err /dev/null. |
| 23:37.29 | cheal | teufel: the top(1) command. depending on your desktop environment a keyboard shortcut might trigger an equivalent display |
| 23:37.53 | streuner | portxxx: kdm just boot KDE |
| 23:38.00 | streuner | portxxx: (usually) |
| 23:38.05 | foo | streuner: You recommend xorg or xfree? I still have xfree on here. |
| 23:38.15 | portxxx | ah alrigth...thanks men...i m glad.. |
| 23:38.16 | tarzeau | streuner: usually no dm is installed only if the user klicks the wrong buttons in tasksel |
| 23:38.24 | streuner | foo: as long as xfree86 works fine, stay with it then |
| 23:38.45 | portxxx | i restart my system for i see what happend to this...cya men |
| 23:38.52 | portxxx | thanks a lot |
| 23:38.55 | __filip_ | Hallo, i have an problem. I delete on thing on the line there you have all program and that. Where the clock is. If i exit kopete i get an icon there but not longer because i have delete it. I am not good in english so it is hard for me to tell you about it. But i dont know how i get it there again. If there is someone from sweden in here that can transalet for me you can get an better question. |
| 23:38.57 | portxxx | logout |
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| 23:39.42 | tarzeau | __filip_: waht did you do exactly? type rm /usr/bin/* ? |
| 23:39.46 | streuner | tarzeau: so apt-get install kde (gnome) didn't install kdm (gdm) for you? ;-) |
| 23:39.59 | tarzeau | streuner: i would never run that hell of a command |
| 23:40.04 | streuner | haha |
| 23:40.06 | tarzeau | streuner: at least these are no default installs |
| 23:40.19 | streuner | tarzeau: you never tried it :-) |
| 23:40.23 | tarzeau | yes i did |
| 23:40.25 | tarzeau | at work |
| 23:40.28 | streuner | haha |
| 23:40.29 | tarzeau | during work time |
| 23:40.33 | tarzeau | on work computers |
| 23:40.42 | __filip_ | tarzeau: You know what problem i have? =) I right click and then delete. I should delete another thing. |
| 23:40.53 | tarzeau | __filip_: you delete what? |
| 23:41.27 | cheal | __filip_: kopete should be in your menu |
| 23:41.30 | __filip_ | The thing where i get icons if i click X in kopete an juk, I have gnome. |
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| 23:41.55 | streuner | tarzeau: there are people in debian who thinks, a DM is useful... |
| 23:42.12 | streuner | tarzeau: (more security) |
| 23:42.12 | tarzeau | streuner: most people get it installed against their will |
| 23:42.21 | streuner | sure |
| 23:42.25 | tarzeau | that's why we have !nodm |
| 23:42.34 | streuner | but they can always remove them |
| 23:42.38 | streuner | later |
| 23:42.43 | tarzeau | it would be better if they can always add it |
| 23:42.54 | __filip_ | cheal: Yes i have it there. But when i push the X it been minimazed to the little "iconbar". |
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| 23:43.15 | tarzeau | omg please #debian-kde |
| 23:43.25 | foo | Err, I've reinstall xserver-free86 and --purged it the first time.... and I'm still getting some stupid errors. /etc/X11/X is not executable ... xinit: Server error. Any other ideas? |
| 23:43.40 | tarzeau | foo: you type startx? |
| 23:43.57 | gravity | foo: what does 'readlink /etc/X11/X' say? |
| 23:44.10 | gravity | And also, what does X -version say? |
| 23:44.37 | streuner | foo, did you upgrade the kernel as well? |
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| 23:45.01 | tarzeau | i have so much fun with the opencubicplayer playing songs at 50% speed |
| 23:45.07 | tarzeau | damn i wish i had a realtime 50% speed button |
| 23:45.11 | nefarius_ | any logical volume ninjas around |
| 23:45.12 | __filip_ | Nobody have the answer of my problem? |
| 23:45.15 | tarzeau | and a 200% one |
| 23:45.30 | foo | tarzeau: yes |
| 23:45.48 | foo | streuner: No. I've got a custom kernel... but it's worked before. Some upgrade must of done this. |
| 23:45.59 | foo | gravity: X is not executable when I do that. |
| 23:46.15 | foo | It's because /etc/X11/X points to /usr/bin/XFree86 ... and the /usr/bin/XFree86 doesn't exist.. |
| 23:46.19 | foo | Blah |
| 23:46.22 | foo | I think I should try xorg, any pointers? |
| 23:46.37 | gravity | foo: It should point to /usr/X11R6/bin/XFree86 |
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| 23:46.47 | foo | gravity: hmm |
| 23:46.51 | gravity | foo: Just change the symlink |
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| 23:46.56 | gravity | I don't know what you did to it, but that should fix it |
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| 23:47.05 | cheal | __filip_: what would you expect that to do? |
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| 23:47.17 | foo | gravity: I don't have that file either. hmm |
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| 23:47.25 | gravity | foo: Install xserver-xfree86 |
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| 23:47.37 | foo | gravity: It's installed. |
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| 23:47.55 | foo | gravity: Says I have the newest version. |
| 23:48.05 | pdr- | someone here has installed debian on a powerbook 12" ? |
| 23:48.16 | gravity | foo: Reinstall it |
| 23:48.21 | stew | fndude: i would not recommend you change the symlink, but change the Makefile for projects which require a non-default version |
| 23:48.31 | tarzeau | pdr-: ibook 12". try #powerpc |
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| 23:48.37 | tarzeau | pdr-: err #debianppc |
| 23:48.38 | gravity | foo: What did you do to your system to remove that file? |
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| 23:48.46 | pdr- | tarzeau, thanks |
| 23:49.02 | foo | gravity: eh, nothing. apt-get upgrade... is all I can think of. And I already did reinstall it. .. apt-get remove --purge xserver-xfree86 ... and then apt-get install xserver-xfree86 ... right? |
| 23:49.10 | __filip_ | cheal: it is hard for me to tell you when i am not very good in english, but when i click X in kopete(when you normaly exit an program) it should be an icon where the clock is so i just can click there an kopete should be shown. But now it dont get there bacause i have delete something that was there |
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| 23:49.27 | gravity | foo: Yes |
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| 23:49.46 | foo | gravity: I've done that. I wonder if I should go to unstable. This is really weird. |
| 23:49.52 | gravity | foo: No, you shouldn't |
| 23:50.00 | absolutzero | hmmm |
| 23:50.07 | gravity | foo: You need to figure out what's wrong with your system. Xorg won't help this problem |
| 23:50.13 | gravity | You're missing your freaking server |
| 23:50.36 | foo | gravity: I know what I am missing. I can assure you this is not a user error. I have no idea what's wrong. |
| 23:50.46 | absolutzero | does anyone here know what this means: ioctl VT_GETSTATE: Invalid argument (not a linux console?) |
| 23:50.55 | edgey | filip you mean when kopete is not running there should be a short cut |
| 23:50.56 | gravity | foo: So check dpkg -L xserver-xfree86 and look to see what's installed |
| 23:50.58 | edgey | but you deleted it? |
| 23:51.04 | absolutzero | when running fbi |
| 23:51.08 | absolutzero | or fbtv |
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| 23:51.36 | tarzeau | you'd want a ring of +5 increase accuracy |
| 23:51.42 | gteppel | I run Debian/stable as a gateway/firewall/dhcp server for my home LAN, within my home LAN I also have a dual booting WinXP SP2/Ubuntu Hoary box and a iBook running OSX 10.4. I'm wanting to use samba on my debian server as a domain controller for my LAN so when my wife logs into her iBook or I log into my desktop box we are using the debian server to authneticate and our Documents are all mapped to the debian server. I can't seem to fin |
| 23:51.44 | converg | I have a question about backing up my system for the purpose of recovery from potentially dangerous experimentation; can anyone direct me to a good tutorial? |
| 23:51.45 | gteppel | even possible? |
| 23:51.48 | tarzeau | and stop being hallu |
| 23:51.55 | tarzeau | gravity: sorry, i just couldn't resist ;) |
| 23:52.10 | foo | gravity: I have xserver-xorg-dbg.. I am going to remove that, and it's removing x-window-system. hmm... let me try something |
| 23:52.17 | Gnea | !swat |
| 23:52.18 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 23:52.33 | gravity | foo: Why do you have xserver-xorg *anything*? |
| 23:52.38 | gravity | ffs |
| 23:52.40 | Gnea | gteppel: ^^ check that |
| 23:52.46 | gravity | Remind me not to help people ever again |
| 23:52.46 | __filip_ | edgey: yes but i dont delete only the kopetet shourtcut, i delete everything. I have allso juk there normaly. |
| 23:52.48 | absolutzero | unsatble=problems |
| 23:52.53 | gteppel | ok thank you |
| 23:52.54 | foo | gravity: No idea. I can assure you I didn't install this manually. |
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| 23:53.05 | foo | gravity: I ditched that and am going to install what I need now. |
| 23:53.34 | streuner | foo, so what does 'X --version' say? |
| 23:53.50 | gravity | One hyphen |
| 23:54.03 | streuner | (only the version..) |
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| 23:54.40 | foo | streuner: /etc/X11/X not executable... one second. Going to try something |
| 23:54.55 | loopdee | you know in the file browser for gnome, when you right click an icon to open it and select open with program and it opens up another file browser, can i make that open up my applications list instead? |
| 23:55.00 | gravity | foo: Do you have xserver-xorg installed too? |
| 23:55.28 | foo | streuner: ok, 5.2.1 ... got that much. |
| 23:55.44 | foo | gravity: eh, yes. That's the problem... err, I never installed this. |
| 23:55.54 | foo | Unlesss I did when I first setup this system... |
| 23:56.25 | streuner | hm, 5.2.1 is not possible |
| 23:56.40 | absolutzero | so nobody knows what this means? framebuffer device maintenance program |
| 23:56.46 | absolutzero | my bad |
| 23:56.51 | absolutzero | wrong shell lol |
| 23:56.57 | foo | streuner: Why not? |
| 23:57.00 | foo | HAHA. |
| 23:57.52 | streuner | foo, because xfree86 is something like 4.x and xorg is something like 6.8.x |
| 23:57.56 | foo | gravity: ahh, looks like x-window-system or x-window-system-core must be xorg. hmm, maybe I should just apt-get xserver-xfree86 |
| 23:58.02 | foo | streuner: heh, weirder. |
| 23:58.09 | gravity | foo: Are you running testing? |
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| 23:58.31 | gravity | foo: Basically, what do you have in your sources.list that could have xorg? |
| 23:58.37 | gravity | i.e. anything but stable |
| 23:58.40 | foo | gravity: testing |
| 23:58.46 | gravity | foo: Then you should have xorg |
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| 23:59.24 | foo | gravity: ahhh, ok. Yeah, apt-get install xserver-xfree86 installs xserver-xorg.. heh, ok. Xorg it is. |
| 23:59.28 | gravity | Right |
| 23:59.37 | gravity | foo: So if you get xserver-xorg installed, do you still get that error? |
