| 00:00.48 | starfishy | with the desktop environment you will have an easier time reading documentation and such |
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| 00:00.55 | liable | FunkOnCrack: so that you dont tear your hair out, yes, install it untill you get comfortable, or if you are a quick learner or old dos user, then dont :) |
| 00:00.57 | starfishy | (xpdf, firefox) |
| 00:01.20 | FunkOnCrack | liable, thanks |
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| 00:03.10 | smiler1987 | hi can anyone help i have a compaq presario 1200 and am wondering if i need any drivers befor i start installing debian on my laptop |
| 00:03.32 | liable | smiler1987: check out tuxmobil.org |
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| 00:05.06 | smiler1987 | llable: is that address correct nothing seams to be happening |
| 00:05.08 | Gashad | Is there a roadmap for debian as far as when new packages will come out? I'm running kernel 2.6.8-2-686 and I need a more updated kernel for my wireless NIC... I dont want to waste time trying to compile my own kernel (i'm a newb) yet I dont want to wait 3 years for a new kernel to be added to apt... |
| 00:05.28 | dvs | Gashad: Grab one from testing |
| 00:05.28 | resiak | Gashad: A newer 2.6 than .8 will never go into sarge. |
| 00:05.33 | starfishy | the address is coorect |
| 00:05.36 | starfishy | correct |
| 00:05.44 | liable | smiler1987: err, http://www.tuxmobil.org |
| 00:05.46 | resiak | Gashad: If you grab Etch's kernel, watch out for udev breakage (if you use udev). |
| 00:05.54 | Gashad | resiak: SO the kernel 2.6.8 is what defines debian sarge? |
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| 00:06.19 | resiak | Gashad: No... |
| 00:06.37 | resiak | !tell Gashad -about releases |
| 00:06.58 | debian | Any chance someone can help me with a Debian install from DVD? |
| 00:07.27 | dvs | debian: C'mon! You should know! ;-) |
| 00:07.27 | beardy | debian: If you ask, perhaps. |
| 00:07.29 | beardy | !ask |
| 00:07.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 00:07.42 | blondie | debian: someone with your nick should be an expert, surely? |
| 00:07.54 | beardy | That too. |
| 00:07.57 | starfishy | :) |
| 00:08.16 | fantomas | resiak: back to screen permissions. Would you provide an example of how to allow a user to attach screen? I don't understand this documentation.. :( |
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| 00:08.23 | smiler1987 | thanks all nite! |
| 00:08.27 | debian | thanks... here's my problem. the install is failing while "scanning CD-ROM" |
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| 00:08.47 | debian | It says it can't mount the CD-ROM |
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| 00:09.07 | fantomas | debian: cool nick ;) |
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| 00:09.30 | starfishy | which install cd are you using? |
| 00:09.31 | debian | (yeah... i'm new to IRC and must have put in debian instead of the nickname :) |
| 00:09.35 | Gashad | dvs: So going from testing to stable is bad, but using stable to grab testing packages is okay? |
| 00:09.41 | debian | I'm installing from the DVDs |
| 00:09.50 | starfishy | what dvds? |
| 00:09.52 | MrBallZ | starfishy: so , if my fmask=0222 , how can i make it to be able to write |
| 00:09.55 | darkcmd | debian in deed is a cool nick |
| 00:10.12 | starfishy | try 0000 |
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| 00:10.16 | debian | I downloaded the dvd's from the debain site |
| 00:10.22 | starfishy | the x bit isnt going to be set anyway |
| 00:10.23 | dvs | Gashad: Some (very few) packages. Ironically, the kernel is one of them (not many dependencies) |
| 00:10.34 | resiak | fantomas: Create a file with "acladd other-username-you-want-to-give-full-access-to-the-screen" in it. When you start screen, pass it -c /path/to/that/file in addition to the other arguments. |
| 00:10.43 | starfishy | i didnt know the debian site now hosts dvds |
| 00:10.59 | dvs | Gashad: Personally, I'd compile my own kernel. |
| 00:11.04 | resiak | fantomas: (when you start screen the _first_ time that is, from the cronjob or whatever. |
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| 00:11.16 | debian | well. they link to them... |
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| 00:11.28 | debian | Official jigdo files for the "stable" release on DVD |
| 00:11.34 | beardy | starfishy: Sarge is released on dvd:s aswell as cd:s. |
| 00:11.34 | starfishy | ah |
| 00:11.35 | debian | http://www.debian.org/CD/jigdo-cd/ |
| 00:11.36 | rilat | When I do an apt-get update I get W: GPG error: http://ftp.es.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 00908312D230C5F |
| 00:11.37 | Gashad | dvs & resiak: cool, thanks for the help. |
| 00:11.49 | resiak | rilat: It makes me so happy that you read the /topic |
| 00:11.54 | starfishy | beardy: I know but somehow it must have gone by me that they are actually hosted at debian.org |
| 00:12.13 | starfishy | did you jigdo get the dvd images? |
| 00:12.16 | Mayhem | thanks all who helped me, I reinstalled a mass of packages and the segfaults are gone. |
| 00:12.20 | beardy | starfishy: Why shouldn't they be? (and on the mirrors of course) |
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| 00:12.23 | starfishy | and test them to make sure that they mount correctly? |
| 00:12.25 | rilat | resiak aha... |
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| 00:12.37 | starfishy | 'bandwidth' comes to mind |
| 00:13.06 | beardy | starfishy: It would be stupid to release dvd:s if they aren't going to be hosted. |
| 00:13.11 | ThetaWave | I think I just diagnosed a bug in Debian's config of the bind9 name server. Who should I tell about it so we might get a fix someday? |
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| 00:13.30 | beardy | starfishy: But true. The netinstaller should be used if possible. |
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| 00:13.38 | resiak | !tell ThetaWave -about bts |
| 00:13.43 | FunkOnCrack | so glad I have adsl2+ and free quota for debian on my isp's ftp, it downloads a heap! |
| 00:13.44 | mo1991 | what is a good mac address changing program for debian? |
| 00:13.53 | ThetaWave | It only affects dhcp's updates |
| 00:13.57 | rilat | I'm having PGP warnings when I do apt-get update; what should I do? |
| 00:14.03 | ThetaWave | resiak: what's that do? |
| 00:14.07 | starfishy | i am much too lazy to download 70% packages i never will need |
| 00:14.10 | resiak | ThetaWave: Read what the bot just told you. |
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| 00:14.13 | resiak | rilat: /topic |
| 00:14.17 | starfishy | download netinstall image, install, enjoy |
| 00:14.19 | debian | starfisy: what I don't get is that it is saying it can't mount the CD-Rom, but the install is coming from the DVD rom? |
| 00:14.20 | beardy | mo1991: ifconfig ? 'man 5 interfaces' |
| 00:14.23 | benjamindees | mo1991, ifconfig |
| 00:14.31 | resiak | rilat: Specifically, /msg dpkg 2006 key, which is the FIRST THING IN THE TOPIC! |
| 00:14.46 | dvs | debian: I'm guessing your chipset is too new |
| 00:14.49 | mo1991 | beardy - you can spoof a mac with ifconfig? - I didn't know that |
| 00:14.50 | tromor | oops |
| 00:14.59 | dvs | !topicsmite rilat |
| 00:15.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon rilat. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 00:15.05 | starfishy | debian: do you have a cdrom and a dvd drive? |
| 00:15.06 | rilat | resiak ok ok... sorry about that... let's see |
| 00:15.20 | debian | dvs: my chipset would be old if anything |
| 00:15.26 | mo1991 | beardy - this will work for wireless cards as well? |
| 00:15.37 | beardy | mo1991: I don't know, probably. |
| 00:15.38 | debian | I've installed debian "woody" on this machine before |
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| 00:15.49 | mo1991 | thx |
| 00:16.42 | benjamindees | debian, presario 1200's came with dvd drives? |
| 00:16.51 | beardy | debian: If you have downloaded the dvd:s, youmust have broadband? |
| 00:16.58 | beardy | !d-i debian |
| 00:16.58 | dpkg | debian, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 00:17.01 | beardy | Try that. |
| 00:17.21 | debian | beardy: yes I have broadband |
| 00:17.32 | debian | is there a better istallation method? |
| 00:17.36 | beardy | debian: With what speed did you burn the dvd:s? |
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| 00:18.00 | beardy | debian: Are you sure they are not corrupted? Burning at low speed is advices. |
| 00:18.00 | beardy | adviced |
| 00:18.06 | FunkOnCrack | how big is this "kdelibs-data"? just interested as its taking ages. |
| 00:18.23 | dvs | !info kdelibs-data sarge |
| 00:18.25 | beardy | debian: what dpkg told you |
| 00:18.26 | dpkg | kdelibs-data: (KDE core shared data), section libs, is optional. Version: 4:3.3.2-6.2 (sarge), Packaged size: 6928 kB, Installed size: 23700 kB |
| 00:18.33 | debian | beardy: don't know what speed. I downloaded them with jidgo, like the org site says. burned without failure. (I've tried re-burnign a couple times) |
| 00:18.46 | dvs | FunkOnCrack: 6MBs |
| 00:18.46 | FunkOnCrack | dpkg, thank you |
| 00:18.46 | dpkg | de rien, FunkOnCrack |
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| 00:18.54 | benjamindees | debian, sorry, ignore me :) |
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| 00:19.15 | resiak | marsje: What's your problem? |
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| 00:19.45 | beardy | debian: You might want to try the netinstaller, tosee if that gives you the same problems or not. Burn it slow. |
| 00:19.46 | starfishy | debian, what is the _exact_ error message and when does it appear? |
| 00:19.47 | marsje | first I got two warnings, then I got this new key and now I have still warning left |
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| 00:19.58 | resiak | marsje: Is it from marillat? |
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| 00:20.54 | MrBallZ | starfishy: the thins is like this, i have a usb hdd enclosure, wich i use to test hdd's , some have FAT32 and some NTFS , so i need to have a line that lets me use both FAT32 rw , and NTFS ro , for the normal user, non root ... |
| 00:20.55 | marsje | it's the tor package that it cannot verify |
| 00:20.56 | beardy | debian: answer starfishy first though.. |
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| 00:20.58 | FunkOnCrack | oh, i know why its taking a long time, its hosted on security.debian.org, not my isp's ftp. D'oh! |
| 00:21.18 | dvs | FunkOnCrack: Because it's hosted on security.debian.org |
| 00:22.04 | resiak | marsje: Well, go ask the provider of that source? |
| 00:22.15 | debian | starfisy: the message is "The failing step is: Detect and mount CD-ROM" |
| 00:22.32 | starfishy | what happens before the message appears? |
| 00:22.32 | marsje | resiak: I just get a pub key id... how do I know who that is? |
| 00:22.41 | starfishy | it tries to probe drivers and such |
| 00:22.42 | resiak | marsje: For which source is it failingL |
| 00:22.46 | resiak | s/L/?/ |
| 00:22.50 | starfishy | one piece of advice: |
| 00:23.03 | marsje | when I do apt-get update I get this: W: GPG error: http://mirror.noreply.org sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY CFF71CB3AFA44BDD |
| 00:23.03 | debian | starfisy: it sits for a long time on the screen "Scanning CD-Rom" and the red bar is at 30% |
| 00:23.11 | starfishy | go down the installer main menu until you find "execute a shell" |
| 00:23.29 | starfishy | and check whether you can mount the specific drive manually |
| 00:23.40 | resiak | marsje: is noreply.org a regular Debian mirror? |
| 00:23.47 | starfishy | that sounds like your download is faulty |
| 00:23.50 | zeballin3 | Is there a way to get auto UNmount of a cd when Konq. closes? Mepis does this and it has a debian base. How can I do it? |
| 00:23.51 | starfishy | maybe a segment is missing |
| 00:24.02 | resiak | marsje: No, it's not. You need to ask them for their new key. |
| 00:24.02 | debian | wouldn't the drive already be mounted? I'm installing from it (but its a DVD). there is no CD-Rom on the system. just a DVD rom |
| 00:24.04 | marsje | resiak: I think I have always been using that |
| 00:24.13 | fantomas | resiak: Hm, doesn't work. Probably I described my problem incorrectly. I run screen while logged in as user 'bot'. I try attach it with _same_ user. I said different user because my X session is created by another user. |
| 00:24.17 | starfishy | if it gets to 'scanning' it should have properly detected the dvdf |
| 00:24.25 | resiak | fantomas: Oh, I don't know then. |
| 00:24.30 | starfishy | no, it would not |
| 00:24.30 | debian | Yeah... I'm installing from it! |
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| 00:24.48 | zeballin3 | I want to avoid having to manually unmount... I just want to pop out cd via the door-button. |
| 00:24.53 | resiak | fantomas: Ah, but... if you su'd to "bot", then it won't be able to access your terminal window, which breaks things. |
| 00:25.02 | starfishy | to explain what exactly happens during installation is a bit beyond the topic here |
| 00:25.08 | starfishy | so im not gonna get into that |
| 00:25.17 | resiak | fantomas: Best bet is to add permission to the scree for your regular, X user as I described, then reattach as your X user. |
| 00:25.23 | starfishy | think difference between bios and Linux driver access |
| 00:25.46 | starfishy | if you really want to know, message me and ill explain it without boring the ppl here to death |
| 00:26.05 | goron | Where can I find what all the properties(e.g. [Obs.] mean of words in the output of "dict <someword>"? Normal dictionaries have a listing of them at the beginning of the book. |
| 00:26.08 | debian | i think i get it. |
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| 00:26.21 | zinx | zeballin3: sounds like HAL + pmount + some kde thing that uses HAL/pmount |
| 00:26.22 | starfishy | chances are your dvd is broken |
| 00:26.36 | debian | ok. i'll try the net install... thanks for the help |
| 00:26.38 | starfishy | and instead of downloading it again, download the netinst image, that should only take a short time |
| 00:26.41 | starfishy | and install via the net |
| 00:26.47 | rilat | resiak it worked; thanks and sorry for being so dummy |
| 00:26.47 | starfishy | ok |
| 00:26.50 | starfishy | have fun |
| 00:26.54 | zinx | goron: dict uses multiple dictionaries which have their own sites |
| 00:27.06 | marsje | resiak: how do I use a regular debian mirror then? |
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| 00:27.14 | resiak | rilat: No worries. In future, it's a good plan to read topics. |
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| 00:27.59 | resiak | marsje: That's a repository for a bunch of extra packages. You're using a normal mirror too, I suspect. Check your /etc/apt/sources.list; read man 5 sources.list . I need to get to bed --- sorry. |
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| 00:28.25 | davFr | hi! question : does anyone know a very lightweight http server on Debian, plz? |
| 00:28.31 | marsje | resiak: I thought it was the same server but a different name... but I think I added it for tor...thanks |
| 00:28.34 | goron | zinx: I know, but I couldn't find the sites. All I got were "free suppliers of a dict interface". |
| 00:28.48 | rilat | resiak, yes indeed, but when I join #debian I see different text of the one I get with /topic; I do not know why... |
| 00:28.54 | goron | zinx: 1913 Webster |
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| 00:29.27 | goron | davFr: lighttpd |
| 00:29.38 | Kupal[]_ | Happy holidays all, been a while since i pooped in :P |
| 00:29.43 | madradrone | davFr: apt-cache search http | egrep -ri server | less |
| 00:29.58 | zinx | goron: http://www.dict.org/links.html |
| 00:30.34 | davFr | madradrone : not very precise :o) |
| 00:30.36 | debian | dpkg or starfisy: is there a mirror to download the net installer from... the debian site is waaaayyy toooooo slooooowww |
| 00:30.36 | dpkg | debian: what are you talking about? |
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| 00:30.46 | MrBallZ | starfishy: the thins is like this, i have a usb hdd enclosure, wich i use to test hdd's , some have FAT32 and some NTFS , so i need to have a line that lets me use both FAT32 rw , and NTFS ro , for the normal user, non root ... |
| 00:30.53 | davFr | search http | egrep -ri server | wc => 160 |
| 00:31.34 | grazieno | Users |
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| 00:31.59 | beardy | davFr: lighttpd, dhttpd, boa, micro-httpd and so on 'apt-cache search httpd | less' |
| 00:32.19 | goron | zinx: I checked the link for Webster, but that page does not contain the information I need. |
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| 00:32.26 | matteo | `apt-get -t experimental dist-upgrade` installs gcc-4.1-base |
| 00:32.26 | matteo | what is depending on it? |
| 00:32.35 | grazieno | (Users debian) |
| 00:32.37 | zinx | goron: too bad, i guess |
| 00:32.59 | davFr | beardy : in fact i just need to serve a counter, in order to have precise statistics on my webpage usage. Much more precise than the monthly stats provided by my ISP. |
| 00:33.05 | matteo | found, libstdc++6 |
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| 00:34.14 | beardy | davFr: There are a lot of httpds to choose from. |
| 00:34.32 | grazieno | [Users #debian] |
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| 00:34.41 | davFr | beardy : the large number is my issue |
| 00:34.52 | beardy | !wayttd grazieno |
| 00:34.52 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, grazieno? |
| 00:35.12 | ThetaWave | In case anyone ever asks in here again, please remember to tell them that the bind9 name server has permissions issues and cannot do its updates. I just spent a day diagnosing this bug. Argh! |
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| 00:35.44 | goron | zinx: and do you happen to know what [Obs.] is? I think it's Obsolete, but I don't know. |
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| 00:36.27 | hellrazor | hi there why can't i open an second X-server as user with startx -- :1 out of my terminal ?????? |
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| 00:37.42 | grazieno | dpkg: sorry, I'm testing irssi |
| 00:38.13 | debian | what is the latest stable version of debian that i should download: 3.1_r0a or 3.1_r1 ? |
| 00:38.15 | codergeek42 | hellrazor: does your card's driver support it? |
| 00:38.26 | dvs | debhelper: 3.1r1 |
| 00:38.36 | dvs | debian: 3.1r1 |
| 00:38.45 | debian | thanks |
| 00:38.51 | hellrazor | codergeek42 yes he sure supports it it worked very wel under gentoo |
| 00:39.18 | codergeek42 | hellrazor: ok. what card is it? have you configured the driver appropriately? |
| 00:39.32 | hellrazor | yes the driver is configured correctly |
| 00:39.36 | codergeek42 | hmm |
| 00:39.40 | hellrazor | he works very good |
| 00:39.44 | FunkOnCrack | do i want to continue installing libc-client without Maildir support? |
| 00:39.55 | hellrazor | i am getting an xauth error message |
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| 00:40.21 | hellrazor | patrick@sokrates:~$ startx -- :1 |
| 00:40.22 | hellrazor | Using authority file /home/patrick/.Xauthority |
| 00:40.22 | hellrazor | Writing authority file /home/patrick/.Xauthority |
| 00:40.22 | hellrazor | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 00:40.22 | hellrazor | xinit: Server error. |
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| 00:40.35 | azeem | w 45 |
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| 00:40.38 | azeem | bah |
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| 00:41.14 | beardy | !paster hellrazor |
| 00:41.14 | dpkg | hellrazor: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 00:41.30 | dusty-- | Has anyone here successfully setup azureus on debian 3.1 r1? |
| 00:41.50 | hellrazor | thx @ beardy |
| 00:42.04 | beardy | !anyone |
| 00:42.04 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 00:42.15 | beardy | hellrazor: np |
| 00:42.20 | davFr | dusty : you have issue with the java vm? |
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| 00:43.06 | dusty-- | no I just don't have the azureus package in apt-get repositories.. |
| 00:43.15 | dusty-- | and I don't know which packages to install to get it up and running. |
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| 00:43.37 | starfishy | hellrazor: just for the sake of curiosity, why would you want to run two X-servers on one box |
| 00:43.42 | hellrazor | ok here it is : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1482 |
| 00:43.51 | muttix | dusty--: its only in unstable... you need to get it from sourceforge |
| 00:43.56 | beardy | !tell dusty-- -about azureus |
| 00:44.15 | beardy | !simple sid backport |
| 00:44.15 | dpkg | hmm... simple sid backport is 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
| 00:44.16 | muttix | dusty--: and you need java to....hehe im faster than the boot |
| 00:44.17 | hellrazor | starfishy i want it and i need ok :) |
| 00:44.18 | beardy | !backport |
| 00:44.18 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 00:44.22 | davFr | dusty : in testing, azureus is packaged, but rely on packages which are not available because of license issues (java VM) |
| 00:44.37 | debian | thanks to all for the help |
| 00:45.11 | simonrvn | starfishy: rather easy to do actually. startx -- :1 |
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| 00:45.11 | dusty-- | hrm, so what should I do? |
| 00:45.13 | hellrazor | simonrvn normaly but it doesn't work for me |
| 00:45.13 | simonrvn | startx -- :2; ... :3; ... :4; etc. |
| 00:45.20 | hellrazor | doesn't work too... |
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| 00:46.29 | davFr | use qtorrent, ktorrent, bittornado, bittorrent... or try to install a java VM manually. I never tried, i am sticking with bittornado in ncurses mode. |
| 00:47.00 | beardy | !java |
| 00:47.00 | dpkg | somebody said java was Sun's cross-platform OO language. Sun's Java licensing is extremely restrictive. Consider using free-java-sdk for applications such as Eclipse. Ask me about <java licensing> and <install java>. |
| 00:47.28 | beardy | /msg dpkg if you want to read those other factoids |
| 00:47.29 | resiak | dpkg: rtorrent! |
| 00:47.29 | dpkg | rtorrent is probably a solid, powerful and very efficient curses-based bittorrent client. It's not yet in debian, but the person who's applied to be maintainer has debianised sources at http://debian.mayhq.org/debian/ and sid packages at deb http://debian.mayhq.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 00:47.35 | simonrvn | hellrazor: well, for one thing, xserver-common (or was it xorg|free86-common?) is probably set so that only root can run the x server |
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| 00:47.37 | dusty-- | davFr, Could you recommend a decent GUI (for running under gnome) bittorrent client? |
| 00:47.41 | dusty-- | or can anyone? |
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| 00:48.05 | resiak | dusty--: bittornado-gui ! |
| 00:48.05 | davFr | dusty : bittorrent-gui was ok |
| 00:48.08 | simonrvn | hellrazor: you might want to run dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common (or xorg-common, or xserver-common, one of those...) to fix it |
| 00:48.11 | hellrazor | simonrvn which does configured such a shit ... |
| 00:48.22 | muttix | dusty--: yep bittornado works fine or look this for java http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 00:48.26 | FunkOnCrack | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1483 |
| 00:48.40 | hellrazor | simonrvn how does this shuold help |
| 00:48.54 | hellrazor | my XF86Config files are good an usable |
| 00:48.55 | davFr | hellrazor: you need Xnested in order to run 2 servers. |
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| 00:49.06 | resiak | No, you don't... |
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| 00:49.15 | hellrazor | davfr i never needed it |
| 00:49.15 | simonrvn | davFr: only one within the other |
| 00:49.37 | hellrazor | simonrvn i am trying |
| 00:49.53 | FunkOnCrack | anyone know what to do in that paste? |
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| 00:50.18 | starfishy | simon: i know how to start two X servers, i just wondered what hellrazor needs it for |
| 00:50.20 | r0tu | is there a way to use (or something like) 'lsof' and have it display how long that file has been being used? |
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| 00:50.57 | hellrazor | simonrvn ok he now created /tmp/.X11-Unix und /tmp/.ICE-UNIX |
| 00:50.57 | davFr | simonrvn : really? i never played with Xnested, but I know that recently I could not have gdm on :0, while having entrance (the login manager from e17) on :1 |
| 00:51.09 | hellrazor | now let's take a look |
| 00:51.15 | FunkOnCrack | nevermind, i'll just say yes |
| 00:51.45 | hellrazor | must is relog ? |
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| 00:51.57 | hellrazor | now i am getting xauth failures again |
| 00:52.03 | hellrazor | shit |
| 00:52.08 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-common |
| 00:52.14 | hellrazor | i did this |
| 00:52.31 | hellrazor | xauth: error in locking authority file /home/patrick/.Xauthority -- this happend |
| 00:52.32 | FunkOnCrack | What is my video card's bus identifier? |
| 00:52.36 | simonrvn | set to 'console'? |
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| 00:52.55 | starfishy | well, the xauthority file is in use by the other X server |
| 00:52.58 | hellrazor | he didn't asked me about settings somthing to console |
| 00:52.58 | simonrvn | you could just rm that file. it'll make a new one |
| 00:53.06 | starfishy | thats why it cant be locked |
| 00:53.25 | simonrvn | then run that with -plow |
| 00:53.31 | simonrvn | dpkg-reconfigure -plow xserver-common |
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| 00:54.04 | hellrazor | doesn't aks me |
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| 00:54.36 | Lilldude10 | how do you clean printer nozzles |
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| 00:54.50 | simonrvn | hellrazor: what is it doing then? |
| 00:54.52 | Lilldude10 | epsonc86 |
| 00:55.01 | simonrvn | it's not like i can see it... |
| 00:55.02 | hellrazor | simonrvn may i query you ? |
| 00:55.13 | simonrvn | no |
| 00:55.17 | simonrvn | !paste |
| 00:55.17 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 00:55.20 | hellrazor | okok |
| 00:56.11 | hellrazor | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1484 here it is |
| 00:56.36 | zeballin3 | zinx: I have both HAL and pmount. I wonder what kde thing it might be. |
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| 00:57.39 | hool | im trying to update mozilla via apt.. it wants me to force loopback in apt for it to do so.. is this a good idea and is it the only way to update mozilla? |
| 00:57.44 | simonrvn | my bad, must be the xfree86 | xorg one then. (xfree86-common or xorg-common) |
| 00:57.46 | hool | and how does one tell apt to do so? |
| 00:57.54 | darth_gr | are there any tricks to upgrade from sarge to testing? |
| 00:58.44 | dvs | !tell darth_gr -about sarge->etch |
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| 00:58.48 | kuraia | hi all |
| 00:58.58 | FunkOnCrack | uh oh... i pressed esc twice when selecting monitor refresh rates, what did i do? |
| 00:58.58 | kuraia | has anybody instaled squid with squidguard? |
| 00:59.45 | dvs | FunkOnCrack: Do that section over again. |
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| 01:00.00 | kuraia | has anybody installed squid with squidguard? |
| 01:00.04 | atax | hello |
| 01:00.46 | kuraia | hello atax |
| 01:00.51 | simonrvn | hellrazor: so? workie now? |
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| 01:01.03 | FunkOnCrack | dvs its selecting previously selected packages, then unpacking them? |
| 01:01.04 | zeballin3 | I'd like to see the list of installed packages in a different debian partition. I can mount it. Is there a file somewhere I can eyeball? Looking to see if autofs is installed without rebooting to it. |
| 01:01.07 | FunkOnCrack | did i screw it up? |
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| 01:01.16 | hellrazor | simonrvn i don't now which x-server i had installed how too find this out ? |
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| 01:01.31 | dvs | FunkOnCrack: Well, you can redo the config later with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 01:01.40 | linuxddr | !tell linuxddr how to know my free space |
| 01:01.49 | linuxddr | !tell linuxddr how to know my free space in my hd |
| 01:01.56 | simonrvn | hellrazor: what debian version do you have installed? |
| 01:02.00 | linuxddr | how can i know my free space ? |
| 01:02.02 | FunkOnCrack | but is what its doing now fine? am i moving ahead with the installation or backwards? |
| 01:02.02 | linuxddr | on my hd |
| 01:02.08 | hellrazor | sarge |
| 01:02.11 | simonrvn | linuxddr: /msg the bot please |
| 01:02.15 | linuxddr | i tried |
| 01:02.18 | simonrvn | linuxddr: df |
| 01:02.20 | hellrazor | simonrvn sarge 3.01r0a |
| 01:02.22 | linuxddr | !tell linuxddr how to know my free space in my hd |
| 01:02.27 | darth_gr | dvs thanks but that is kinda obvious, anything out of a normal dist-upgrade to worry about, broken packages or other weirdness? |
| 01:02.27 | azeem | linuxddr: stop it |
| 01:02.28 | linuxddr | <dpkg> No, linuxddr, I won't. (target invalid?) |
| 01:02.33 | simonrvn | xfree86 |
| 01:02.34 | simonrvn | linuxddr: stop it |
| 01:02.38 | linuxddr | stop ? |
| 01:02.45 | azeem | linuxddr: abusing the bot |
| 01:02.49 | linuxddr | ok |
| 01:02.50 | beardy | linuxddr: stop abusing the bot |
| 01:02.52 | linuxddr | i stoped |
| 01:02.57 | linuxddr | i dont do it |
| 01:02.59 | linuxddr | anymore |
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| 01:03.03 | beardy | linuxddr: df -h, man df |
| 01:03.04 | hellrazor | simonrvn that means?` |
| 01:03.05 | azeem | linuxddr: if you get no or bogus answers, then you ask the wrong questions |
| 01:03.06 | dvs | darth_gr: Not that I know of. I always use testing |
| 01:03.16 | linuxddr | ok |
| 01:03.25 | simonrvn | it obviously doesn't have a clue what you're wanting. do you do search engine searches like that too? sheesh |
| 01:03.29 | azeem | linuxddr: dpkg only answers to things he knows |
| 01:03.31 | linuxddr | thnks beardy |
| 01:03.33 | azeem | or she, dunno |
| 01:03.36 | indian | bye |
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| 01:03.57 | darth_gr | dvs well i started using sarge when sarge was testing, the etch install should go smooth huh? |
| 01:03.59 | simonrvn | hellrazor: means you have xfree86 installed. so you run dpkg-reconfigure xfree86-common |
| 01:04.08 | simonrvn | oh run it with the -plow |
| 01:04.13 | dvs | darth_gr: I didn't have a problem. |
| 01:04.21 | hellrazor | yes i did this |
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| 01:05.20 | hellrazor | but still no second X-Server as user |
| 01:05.55 | starfishy | did you try starting a second x-server under a different user id? |
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| 01:06.11 | hellrazor | starfishy as root it works.... |
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| 01:06.26 | hellrazor | but not with any other user account |
| 01:06.43 | starfishy | well, it would |
| 01:06.48 | starfishy | try it as a different user |
| 01:06.52 | hellrazor | hm... ? |
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| 01:07.00 | hellrazor | why should i |
| 01:07.06 | starfishy | if you start it as root it uses a different .Xauthority file which is why it works |
| 01:07.07 | hellrazor | always worked for one user |
| 01:07.25 | starfishy | and you did not upgrade anything between then and now? |
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| 01:07.35 | hellrazor | under my gentoo which i used before this debian install |
| 01:07.50 | starfishy | maybe gentoo is lax concerning xauthority? |
| 01:08.04 | hellrazor | i don't now |
| 01:08.07 | starfishy | if the file cant be locked it cant be locked and thus no X |
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| 01:08.31 | ahattar | hi all, |
| 01:08.32 | hellrazor | so how do i kill this fucking xauth thing i do not really need it |
| 01:08.35 | hellrazor | it sucks |
| 01:08.35 | starfishy | as a different user it would work because it'd use a different xauthority file |
| 01:09.02 | ice_1963 | when i install kernel-image-2.6.12-k7 testing how do i install the new key? |
| 01:09.03 | starfishy | all new X servers use Xauthority as far as I know |
| 01:09.16 | SimonRaven | ice_1963: /topic |
| 01:09.29 | hellrazor | starfishy and why does it worked for me just under another destrie ? |
| 01:09.29 | SimonRaven | uh, it's been in use for years |
| 01:09.32 | ahattar | how to change the nic speed from auto in the interfaces file to 100/full? |
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| 01:09.44 | starfishy | because maybe the other distro had an older version of X |
| 01:09.45 | hellrazor | thats not a problem of X-server |
| 01:09.54 | kuraia | has anybody installed squid with squidguard? |
| 01:09.55 | starfishy | no? |
| 01:09.59 | hellrazor | it's a problem of the main configuration |
| 01:10.05 | starfishy | no |
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| 01:10.15 | starfishy | x authentification is in all X servers nowadays |
| 01:10.21 | ice_1963 | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE so can not get the key? |
| 01:10.25 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: /topic |
| 01:10.34 | hellrazor | just putting my old config files for xinitrc from gentoo to this X-Server |
| 01:10.36 | starfishy | allowing anyone to start and access X is criminally negligent |
| 01:10.44 | starfishy | suit yourself |
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| 01:10.57 | hellrazor | hm... |
| 01:11.02 | hellrazor | man xhost |
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| 01:11.06 | outlaw84 | Is there anything extra that you need to compile in the kernel if you are going to use SATA? IDE/ATA is allready working... |
| 01:11.08 | dondelelcaro | !xhost |
| 01:11.08 | dpkg | methinks xhost is EVIL! Ask me about mit-magic-cookie, or read /usr/share/doc/xfree86-common/FAQ.gz before even thinking about using the "xhost" command. Ask me about "sshx", or "nolisten" if you're mule-headed, or "apt-cache show xbase-clients | grep xhost" will tell you "xhost, a very dangerous program that you should never use" You should use ssh X11 forwarding instead. use sux instead of su |
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| 01:11.11 | hellrazor | kill this bunch of shit |
| 01:11.23 | starfishy | xhost is one of the biggest security holes around |
| 01:11.41 | hellrazor | starfishy i tried all |
| 01:11.46 | hellrazor | but this fuck wan't work |
| 01:11.51 | hellrazor | so i use xhost |
| 01:11.52 | starfishy | if you really want an insecure system, I suggest a different OS |
| 01:11.59 | starfishy | less hassle to make it insecure |
| 01:12.04 | hellrazor | bah |
| 01:12.09 | hellrazor | i am firewalled |
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| 01:12.16 | ice_1963 | sudo apt-key add will not install it |
| 01:12.19 | starfishy | famous last words... |
| 01:12.24 | dvs | Yup |
| 01:12.29 | starfishy | anyway, I must be off |
| 01:12.37 | starfishy | may bbl |
| 01:12.54 | _rene_ | ice_1963: what does it say? |
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| 01:13.25 | hellrazor | bah |
| 01:13.28 | hellrazor | now it works |
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| 01:13.47 | ice_1963 | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE |
| 01:14.02 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: yes, sudo apt-key add; will. Run the entire command. |
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| 01:14.42 | ice_1963 | well not for me |
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| 01:14.50 | jcole | i've got a server running sarge on hppa/parisc, how do i go about getting the kernel sources? |
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| 01:14.57 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: did you run the command exactly as it is listed? |
| 01:14.59 | hellrazor | really great |
| 01:15.25 | hellrazor | less won't fit thi*.gz files really an good standard configrution.......... |
| 01:15.26 | ahattar | any idea, running sarge, how to change the nic speed from auto in the interfaces file to 100/full? |
| 01:15.29 | jcole | "apt-get source kernel-source" doesn't work like on x86 |
| 01:15.30 | ice_1963 | yes i did and i'm not new to linux |
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| 01:15.50 | dondelelcaro | ice_1963: if so, and apt-key list; doesn't show the 2006 key, use the paster bot to give the entire output of your session, including the command that you ran. |
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| 01:15.56 | hellrazor | ahattar use mii-tools |
| 01:16.05 | ahattar | thnx |
| 01:16.15 | kuraia | has anybody installed squid? |
| 01:16.31 | drivamgr2006 | !anyone |
| 01:16.31 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 01:16.40 | hellrazor | ahattar you may also add the seting permanent to the net boot script |
| 01:16.56 | ice_1963 | command do's work for me that's what mean |
| 01:17.20 | outlaw84 | Is none of you running any SATA disks? |
| 01:17.23 | jcole | kuraia: you're the only one |
| 01:17.30 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: just ask your actual question. |
| 01:17.37 | outlaw84 | dondelelcaro: I did |
| 01:17.49 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: yes. |
| 01:18.06 | ahattar | hellrazor:how to access mii-tools |
| 01:18.21 | outlaw84 | dondelelcaro: did you need to do anything special in with the kernel for it to work? |
| 01:18.31 | hellrazor | you must be root and they must be installed |
| 01:18.37 | azeem | outlaw84: does it not work? |
| 01:18.50 | ahattar | ok |
| 01:18.52 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: now you're getting onto asking your actual question... what kernel are you running, what chipset, and what is the problem? |
| 01:18.54 | outlaw84 | azeem: I am just preparing :) |
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| 01:19.17 | azeem | outlaw84: did you install Debian already? |
| 01:19.19 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: for most chipsets it will just work; for some you may have better luck with the etch installer. |
| 01:19.21 | outlaw84 | 02:11 < outlaw84> Is there anything extra that you need to compile in the kernel if you are going to use SATA? IDE/ATA is allready working... |
| 01:20.51 | outlaw84 | dondelelcaro: what device name does your sata disks get? |
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| 01:21.20 | dondelelcaro | outlaw84: depends on the kernel. with later ones, they are all /dev/sdNX; with earlier ones, /dev/hdNX. |
| 01:23.36 | outlaw84 | I always run latest stable... The upcomming sata disk will be replacing and older and smaller disk might I be able to do something like 'dd_rescue /dev/<old-disk> /dev/<new-disk>' and be able to boot from the new disk? ofcourse after installing grub onto the new disk |
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| 01:26.08 | vezult_ | outlaw84: I've got SATA drives. what controller do you have? |
| 01:26.27 | outlaw84 | ALi Corporation M5229 |
| 01:27.27 | vezult_ | hmm doesnt ring a bell...are you sure its supported? |
| 01:27.48 | vezult_ | or is that one of the things you're asking about? |
| 01:28.05 | outlaw84 | vezult_: My ide/ata drivers are running from it now |
| 01:28.12 | outlaw84 | http://outlaw84.no-ip.info/sysinfo/ |
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| 01:29.12 | hellrazor | i am really pissed of now |
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| 01:29.25 | hellrazor | this second X-Server won'twork |
| 01:29.32 | hellrazor | i will change back to gentoo |
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| 01:29.54 | outlaw84 | hellrazor: what are you trying to do? |
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| 01:30.12 | hellrazor | starting an second X-Server as user by useing startx -- :1 |
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| 01:30.19 | hellrazor | and it doesn't work |
| 01:30.29 | outlaw84 | export DISPLAY=:1 |
| 01:30.30 | azeem | hellrazor: did you modify inittab? |
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| 01:30.38 | hellrazor | inittab |
| 01:30.39 | azeem | I think you need to do that |
| 01:30.45 | ppcthug | hello, I'm using this site http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/docs/HOWTO/other-formats/html_single/Flash-Memory-HOWTO.html to set up my usb memory stick, I'm at step 8.1 trying to format the stick so its ext2, but when I run fdisk /dev/sda or /sda1 or /sda2 all I get is unable to open that directory, I'm logged in as root. useing debian sarge kernel 2.6, when I was using 2.4 I managed to get the memory stick working but I forgot exactly how |
| 01:30.56 | hellrazor | let's take a look at the inittab |
| 01:30.56 | beardy | azeem: That's not necessary. |
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| 01:31.02 | azeem | beardy: ok |
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| 01:31.37 | beardy | hellrazor: What error do you get? |
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| 01:32.13 | hellrazor | beardy xauth told me that i am not allowed to open an second x-server |
| 01:32.17 | vezult_ | outlaw84: you could do a small install on one partition of new disk, copy your old data over, chroot, update-grub, reboot into the copied install, delete your "bootstrap" installation. |
| 01:32.30 | hellrazor | then i modified the Xauthorithy file |
| 01:32.46 | liable | ppcthug: check dmesg |
| 01:32.47 | hellrazor | to get the acces for the display :1 |
| 01:32.56 | hellrazor | but it doesn't work |
| 01:33.10 | resiak | hellrazor: Are you doing this from within X? |
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| 01:33.21 | ppcthug | liable: whats dmesg? |
| 01:33.26 | beardy | !dmesg |
| 01:33.26 | dpkg | it has been said that dmesg is print or control the kernel ring buffer |
| 01:33.32 | hellrazor | resiak yes sure |
| 01:33.54 | hellrazor | resiak but doesn't matter if useing console or X results in the same error |
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| 01:34.02 | resiak | hellrazor: I see. |
| 01:34.02 | beardy | resiak: Don't do that. Run it from a vt. |
| 01:34.11 | hellrazor | i am not allowed to aces an second X-Server |
| 01:34.17 | resiak | beardy: I'm not trying to do it. _I_ know it should be done from a vt ;) |
| 01:34.19 | beardy | gah |
| 01:34.30 | hellrazor | resiak that's shit |
| 01:34.31 | beardy | hellrazor: the above was for you |
| 01:34.39 | resiak | beardy: If you want to fix _my_ X server's ridiculously large fonts, feel free ;) |
| 01:34.44 | hellrazor | i am used to run from another X-server |
| 01:34.49 | ricky_Sal | hi guys , has anyone of you use hammer node DNS services to run a webserver at home ? |
| 01:34.58 | beardy | resiak: (aren't you sleeping ;) ) |
| 01:35.07 | hellrazor | so this works don't no why debian do not like's this |
| 01:35.32 | resiak | beardy: I left then came back. |
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| 01:36.12 | ppcthug | so what am I supposed to be looking for in all this info I got from dmesg? |
| 01:36.21 | azeem | hellrazor: do you get the same error message when you try from the console? |
| 01:36.35 | hellrazor | azeem exaktly the same message |
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| 01:36.49 | liable | ppcthug: where the kernel put your usb stick (should be at the bottom) |
| 01:37.01 | hellrazor | doesn't matter if i tried it from console or from another X-Server |
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| 01:38.22 | vezult_ | ppcthug: do you have the usb-storage module loaded? |
| 01:38.28 | azeem | hellrazor: what does grep -A1 actual_allowed_users /var/cache/debconf/config.dat say as value? |
| 01:38.48 | ppcthug | address 5? |
| 01:39.20 | liable | ppcthug: no, it should say sda1 or sdb1 or similar |
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| 01:39.32 | liable | ppcthug: see vezult_ question.. |
| 01:40.06 | hellrazor | Name: xserver-common/xwrapper/actual_allowed_users Template: xserver-common/xwrapper/actual_allowed_users Value: console |
| 01:40.10 | viki | is there anybody, who has installed a game called boson? |
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| 01:40.13 | hellrazor | looks ok i think |
| 01:40.14 | ice_1963 | i'm running sarge right now i wont to install testing from a cd new install when i get the new kernel installed from testing how can i install that new key? |
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| 01:40.28 | zenlunatic | how do i reconfigure my xfree86? |
| 01:40.41 | azeem | hellrazor: yes |
| 01:40.58 | hellrazor | by the way why is there an notice in inittab to skip tty7 for terminals ? |
| 01:41.02 | Matt-H | zenlunatic: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:41.08 | vezult_ | zenlunatic: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 01:41.23 | vezult_ | err..what Matt-H said |
| 01:41.25 | azeem | hellrazor: because that's where X sits usually I guess |
| 01:41.26 | hellrazor | i always used tty11 und tty12 for my X-Servers |
| 01:41.34 | ppcthug | ... |
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| 01:41.37 | Miguelzinho | any one using latest nvidia drivers in unstable? |
| 01:41.41 | hellrazor | and tty1 to tty10 for terminals : |
| 01:41.58 | azeem | hellrazor: so reconfigure it |
| 01:42.10 | hellrazor | just makeing this usual for me |
| 01:42.12 | hellrazor | hm.. |
| 01:42.35 | hellrazor | why does the button left of Z doesn't work .... |
| 01:42.37 | vezult_ | ppcthug: do: lsmod |grep usb |
| 01:43.04 | vezult_ | ppcthug: you should get a list of usb related modules. one of them should be usb-storage |
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| 01:43.21 | vezult_ | ppcthug: if you dont see that, do: modprobe usb-storage |
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| 01:43.41 | vezult_ | ppcthug: and i'm guessing your problems will be solved |
| 01:44.03 | ppcthug | usbcore 119012 3 uhci_hcd |
| 01:44.05 | Miguelzinho | does any one know why this happens: NVRM: RM/client version mismatch |
| 01:44.09 | beardy | After telling him to not irc as root: |
| 01:44.10 | beardy | 02:43 <Chrisjox> I irc from what account I want. Stop that kid stuff. apt tell me what? How to get voice? |
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| 01:44.15 | Miguelzinho | I have the same versions for GLX and kernel module |
| 01:44.41 | resiak | Chrisjox: IRC as non-root. It's really rather easy. |
| 01:44.42 | beardy | *plonk* |
| 01:45.02 | MikeDub | hey guys. |
| 01:45.04 | hellrazor | azeem but my second X-Server still doesn't work |
| 01:45.29 | ppcthug | vezult_: usbcore 119012 3 uhci_hcd |
| 01:45.29 | beardy | He called me a moron to. |
| 01:45.42 | beardy | !ops sort out Chrisjox |
| 01:45.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: sort out Chrisjox |
| 01:45.46 | resiak | 01:45 Chrisjox : stop pretending you have a clue. There are no problem ircing from root. |
| 01:45.51 | resiak | *plonk* |
| 01:45.55 | azeem | beardy: he is muted anyway, no? |
| 01:46.04 | beardy | azeem: Yes. |
| 01:46.06 | liable | hehe, what a goose. |
| 01:46.20 | beardy | azeem: Needs a ban too. |
| 01:46.31 | beardy | azeem: Or a talking to. |
| 01:46.40 | resiak | beardy: Waste of ban list space :) |
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| 01:46.50 | beardy | resiak: I guess :) |
| 01:46.58 | mase_ | hey guys, whats the make menuconfig command for debian? |
| 01:46.59 | azeem | I don't there's much use in banning people who didn't say a single line in here yet |
| 01:47.01 | helix | what's with the frowny in the !ops list? |
| 01:47.08 | resiak | mase_: `make menuconfig` |
| 01:47.10 | caphuso | mase_: weirdly enough it's "make menuconfig" |
| 01:47.17 | mase_ | doesnt work here o_O |
| 01:47.21 | resiak | !faq mase_ |
| 01:47.21 | dpkg | mase_: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ |
| 01:47.22 | azeem | helix: that used to be greycat or somebody |
| 01:47.27 | beardy | azeem: True, I apologize for me getting pissed. |
| 01:47.33 | helix | ah, a fallen soldier |
| 01:47.34 | FunkOnCrack | how do i change the resolution in gnome to a higher resolution that isn't listed? |
| 01:47.34 | caphuso | helix: yes, greycat |
| 01:47.35 | azeem | helix: (I think) |
| 01:47.46 | beardy | pissed off, heh |
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| 01:47.59 | resiak | !drxx dpkg |
| 01:47.59 | dpkg | dpkg: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:48.01 | resiak | !drxx FunkOnCrack |
| 01:48.02 | dpkg | FunkOnCrack: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:48.12 | azeem | hellrazor: what X server/driver do you use? |
| 01:48.19 | mase_ | make menuconfig on what folder again? |
| 01:48.25 | caphuso | mase_: kernel source |
| 01:48.37 | resiak | !folder |
| 01:48.37 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
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| 01:49.21 | ppcthug | heres the end of the dmesg out put http://channals.debian.net/paste/1485 |
| 01:49.23 | mase_ | wheres the kernel source folder at again? :p |
| 01:49.42 | beardy | mase_: try again :) |
| 01:50.21 | beardy | mase_: /usr/src/linux, /usr/local/src/linux, or wherevever you put it. |
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| 01:50.29 | MikeDub | I've just started using a router for my home network, rather than having each computer connect directly. I haven't set my debian box up on the network yet.. it used to connect directly via pppoe. I'm wondering what i'll have to change in order for the debian box to use the router to access the web. |
| 01:50.32 | Bac9 | anyone use glade-gnome package and can tell me if it uses gnome libs by default or allows the user to select if gnome libs are to be used? |
| 01:50.54 | mase_ | well i have no idea where i put it , its still default installation |
| 01:50.55 | mase_ | o_O |
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| 01:51.21 | Chrisjoy | . |
| 01:51.29 | beardy | mase_: 'locate vesafb.txt' |
| 01:51.34 | Matt-H | MikeDub: if the router's doing DHCP then just hook up ethernet and get it to pick up a dynamic IP... it should just route stuff out then :) |
| 01:51.50 | mase_ | nothing be |
| 01:51.54 | Chrisjoy | This server must be ran by morons. Not allowed to speak in channel while logged in as root. |
| 01:51.55 | mase_ | beardy. |
| 01:51.59 | hellrazor | azeem xfree86 driver nvidia well configured |
| 01:52.07 | hellrazor | glxgears is working fine |
| 01:52.14 | beardy | mase_: 'locate linux' then |
| 01:52.26 | benjamindees | anyone know where I can find realplayer 9 packages for sarge? |
| 01:52.40 | beardy | mase_: do an 'updatedb' first perhaps |
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| 01:52.50 | pureone | helix-player maybe or the real site |
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| 01:52.56 | azeem | hellrazor: if you are desperate to have a second X, you could maybe try the vesa driver, dunno |
| 01:52.56 | hellrazor | azeem XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 |
| 01:53.02 | beardy | benjamindees: That is proprietary. |
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| 01:53.25 | hellrazor | azeem it worked for me on my gentoo system with the nvidia driver |
| 01:53.42 | mase_ | beardy: too much stuff |
| 01:53.46 | mase_ | theres /usr/share stuff |
| 01:53.49 | hellrazor | and there i used an .Xauthority file |
| 01:53.51 | azeem | hellrazor: same version of X and nvidia driver? |
| 01:53.53 | hellrazor | and it workjed |
| 01:53.59 | EvilSporkMan | i accidentally installed GTK+ from unstable a few weeks ago and now all the GTK menus are black text on a black background. how do i either downgrade or return them to their normal appearance? |
| 01:54.01 | beardy | mase_: read it |
| 01:54.04 | hellrazor | newer X-Server version |
| 01:54.06 | MikeDub | Matt-H: it's doing dchp, but i'd much rather set static IPs behind my network :P |
| 01:54.06 | azeem | hellrazor: and is that the binary-only thingy? |
| 01:54.10 | hellrazor | but it alway wroked !!! |
| 01:54.16 | mase_ | usr/include/linux |
| 01:54.18 | hellrazor | It alsways worked ! |
| 01:54.25 | azeem | hellrazor: you said that already |
| 01:54.30 | beardy | mase_: You should be able to see where the source is. (why haven't you just looked at where Itold you /usr/src/linux yet?) |
| 01:54.31 | hellrazor | yes i know |
| 01:54.36 | hellrazor | binary only ? |
| 01:54.37 | mase_ | i have.. |
| 01:54.39 | MikeDub | much easier to forward ports |
| 01:54.40 | mase_ | there is no "linux" in usr/src |
| 01:54.54 | Matt-H | MikeDub: give them all a private static IP (10.x.x.x, 192.168.x.x or.. the other one that I can never remember) and make sure they're in the same subnet as the router - set gateway to the router's IP |
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| 01:54.59 | Chrisjoy | I just downloaded latest debian dvd, and installed desktop enviroment and nv screen card driver, but X won't boot. What the heck is wrong with Debian guys and their poor support for nvidia? |
| 01:55.03 | hellrazor | azeem is it possible to get another package of x? |
| 01:55.06 | azeem | hellrazor: there is an open source nvidia driver from X, and a binary-only one from nvidia |
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| 01:55.14 | hellrazor | yes |
| 01:55.18 | MikeDub | yeah |
| 01:55.22 | azeem | "yes"? |
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| 01:55.32 | hellrazor | azeem i always used the binary one for 3d support |
| 01:55.39 | hellrazor | it worked very well |
| 01:55.39 | MikeDub | I knwo the theory behind it, but i'm not sure how to set the gateway ;P |
| 01:55.48 | azeem | hellrazor: bad luck then, I guess :-/ |
| 01:55.51 | MikeDub | I'm a newb |
| 01:55.52 | hellrazor | X-Server where starting as i needed them : |
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| 01:56.02 | Clouded | Hi, I installed debian a few weeks back, but since i installed it, i havent had any sound, i've got a SoundMAX Integrated Digital Audio soundcard, and alsa is up to date. Whenever i try to open something with Rythembox, i get "device /dev/dsp does not exist." after i do lsmod, i see the module "Soundcore." .. anyone feel like helping? |
| 01:56.14 | Matt-H | MikeDub: in /etc/network/interfaces, below the IP etc. add: gateway <ip> |
| 01:56.15 | hellrazor | it don't know why this won't work for debian |
| 01:56.25 | azeem | hellrazor: you could ask Nvidia |
| 01:56.35 | azeem | or try to reproduce it with the open source driver |
| 01:56.35 | cfrisch | Clouded dsp is not alsa |
| 01:56.37 | Chrisjoy | MikeDub, not because you irc from root anyway. Only kids with no clue think that is an security issue. |
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| 01:56.49 | MikeDub | Matt-H: thanks man |
| 01:56.58 | juice` | can i upgrade from normal debian to amd64 version without reinstall? |
| 01:56.59 | hellrazor | azeem this is an problem of the configuration of the X-Server |
| 01:56.59 | Clouded | cfrisch, i figured that, but i thought i'd include as much info as possible about sound not working |
| 01:57.00 | cfrisch | hellrazor are you too trying a nvidia card? |
| 01:57.06 | hellrazor | ba |
| 01:57.14 | hellrazor | now i am really pissed off.... |
| 01:57.23 | Matt-H | MikeDub: that'll come up properly when you boot - for now (as root) you can do: route add default gw <ip> |
| 01:57.26 | azeem | hellrazor: you said that already |
| 01:57.26 | cfrisch | hellrazor I am too |
| 01:57.39 | hellrazor | cfrisch hm.... and `? |
| 01:57.52 | azeem | hellrazor: if you use the Nvidia driver, ask Nvidia for support |
| 01:58.00 | mase_ | beardy: i guess a kernel installed by apt-get doesnt have a source eh :p |
| 01:58.04 | azeem | if nobody can help you here |
| 01:58.07 | beardy | Chrisjoy: improve your attitude |
| 01:58.10 | beardy | mase_: No. |
| 01:58.12 | hellrazor | azeem this is not an problem of the nvidia binary driver ! |
| 01:58.23 | juice` | can i upgrade from normal debian (i386) to amd64 version without reinstall? i will be using 'testing' (etch). I can't see i386/amd64 in sources.list |
| 01:58.29 | beardy | mase_: kernel-source or linux-source if you're running testing or unstable. |
| 01:58.31 | mase_ | beardy: so theres no way to check what my kernel supports ? |
| 01:58.41 | hellrazor | this is an configuration problem of debian ;-) |
| 01:58.43 | cfrisch | hellrazor I am not getting much done. did you have 2-d before the driver? |
| 01:58.44 | MikeDub | Matt-H: so, edit /etc/network/interfaces for reboot, then use that command to have the box connect right now |
| 01:58.55 | azeem | hellrazor: it seems to work for everybody else |
| 01:58.55 | MikeDub | then when i reboot, it'll automagically connect to the gateway |
| 01:59.01 | MikeDub | no? |
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| 01:59.02 | Clouded | cfrisch .. any idea? |
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| 01:59.13 | Matt-H | MikeDub: yep - there's probably a command to reload from /etc/network/interfaces but I can't remember it - so just what you've said |
| 01:59.16 | beardy | mase_: You have to install the kernel-source-<version> package. |
| 01:59.26 | MikeDub | works for me! |
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| 01:59.30 | hellrazor | azeem okok let's get the whole bunch of the procedure again |
| 01:59.33 | cfrisch | Clouded maybe get oss emulation or a program that uses alsa. |
| 01:59.37 | MikeDub | gotta go plug the monitor back itno the box i guess |
| 01:59.41 | MikeDub | bbiab |
| 01:59.46 | Clouded | ok, thanks, i'll go take a look |
| 01:59.46 | MikeDub | Matt-H: thanks |
| 01:59.48 | hellrazor | brb |
| 01:59.53 | Matt-H | MikeDub: no probs :) |
| 02:00.02 | hellrazor | kill -9 gdm && kill -9 X |
| 02:00.04 | hellrazor | ups |
| 02:00.25 | beardy | mase_: The stock kernels have almost everything compiled, as modules. |
| 02:00.32 | Kaz_64 | when i try to do a make menu config in the kernel sources, i get an error saying it's looking for ncurses, but i already have ncurses installed |
| 02:00.47 | mase_ | beardy: but if i wanted to check, im screwed? |
| 02:00.51 | Chrisjoy | Is there anyone in here who knows how to get X started with the latest debian dvd and nv driver? (my graphic adapter is geforce 6600GT) |
| 02:00.56 | beardy | mase_: Check what? |
| 02:00.58 | cfrisch | Kaz_64 get the dev files |
| 02:01.29 | Kaz_64 | cfrisch: so something like ncures-dev? |
| 02:01.44 | mase_ | beardy: support |
| 02:01.46 | mase_ | for my kernel |
| 02:01.51 | mase_ | of a USB thing my webcam needs |
| 02:01.58 | quasisane | mase_: the kernel image deb should have put the config file that kernel was compiled with in /boot |
| 02:02.02 | cfrisch | Kaz_64 yeah but spelled wrighte |
| 02:02.12 | Kaz_64 | lol, thanks |
| 02:02.13 | beardy | mase_: Have you plugged it in? |
| 02:02.17 | Chrisjoy | What is the name of the text browser again? |
| 02:02.19 | mase_ | yea, it's on too.. |
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| 02:02.26 | mase_ | i installed the driver needed for it also |
| 02:02.34 | azeem | Chrisjoy: apt-cache search text browser |
| 02:02.39 | mase_ | is there anyway to check if it detects it? |
| 02:02.46 | cfrisch | Kaz_64 ncurses5-dev I think |
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| 02:02.58 | beardy | Chrisjoy: lynx, links, w3m, links2 and so on |
| 02:03.04 | Stevie | I have determined the best thing on earth. |
| 02:03.33 | Chrisjoy | beardy, lynx was it, thanks |
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| 02:04.15 | beardy | mase_: Well, what do you want to do with it, mount it? |
| 02:04.26 | mase_ | well, see if it works |
| 02:04.35 | beardy | mase_: works how? What does it do? |
| 02:04.49 | mase_ | a webcam? well it lets you see stuff around you |
| 02:04.50 | mase_ | o_O |
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| 02:04.56 | LostFrog | Stevie: love? |
| 02:05.00 | beardy | !webcam |
| 02:05.00 | dpkg | it has been said that webcam is a method to setup a webcam using Debian: http://www.aboutdebian.com/webcam.htm |
| 02:05.07 | Stevie | LostAngel: Nope |
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| 02:05.23 | Stevie | LostAngel: A small chili from Wendy's with two hot sauce packets stirred in. |
| 02:05.32 | LostFrog | I am going to kill that lurking LostAngel nick. |
| 02:05.37 | Stevie | err\ |
| 02:05.39 | Stevie | lol |
| 02:05.43 | Stevie | sorry |
| 02:05.52 | Stevie | At first it tried to do LoonaTick|afk |
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| 02:07.53 | cfrisch | My usb keyboard is on crack since I have plugged it into a new pc. The mods are loaded but the keymap is screwed it is qwerty and I have iso01 selected. I have dpkg-reconfigured console-data. |
| 02:07.57 | jhenn | My X leaves trails when I move windows. |
| 02:07.59 | ppcthug | heres a simple question, how do I format a floppy disk? |
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| 02:08.17 | EvilSporkMan | i accidentally installed GTK+ from unstable a few weeks ago and now all the GTK menus are black text on a black background. how do i either downgrade or return them to their normal appearance? |
| 02:08.20 | jhenn | ppcthug: there is a floppy formatter if you instatlled the desktop packages |
| 02:08.29 | EvilSporkMan | jhenn: got an LCD monitor? |
| 02:08.34 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: yes |
| 02:08.37 | bleaked | i am in the process of ripping and encoding my music collection into ogg (flac in the future :) and, well, the rip & encode process is incredibly slow. this is with abcde using cdparanoia and oggenc. Are there quicker alternatives to these engines? (ripping w/ winamp a year ago, on the same machine was very quick and accurate.) |
| 02:08.44 | EvilSporkMan | jhenn: that'd be the refresh time, i think |
| 02:08.54 | juice` | can i upgrade from normal debian (i386) to amd64 version without reinstall? i will be using 'testing' (etch). I can't see i386/amd64 in sources.list |
| 02:08.56 | beardy | ppcthug: 'fdformat /dev/fd0u<format>' |
| 02:09.00 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: it doesn't do it in other OS's but X ones |
| 02:09.02 | EvilSporkMan | jhenn: oh, i stand corrected...it does some ugly things on my machine |
| 02:09.08 | beardy | ppcthug: most likely, /dev/fd0u1440 |
| 02:09.10 | cfrisch | bleaked use grip and flac rules |
| 02:09.18 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: I was wondering if X was just "like that" |
| 02:09.34 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: if so we have lots of coding to do |
| 02:09.36 | EvilSporkMan | jhenn: i haven't noticed it before |
| 02:09.51 | bleaked | cfrisch. grip is just a front end for the same engines. it's actually slower and has less options than abcde. yes, flac is cool, but i don't have the hd space at the moment. |
| 02:09.56 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: it doesn't make my system unusable, its just annoying |
| 02:10.00 | ppcthug | oh there it is, under system tools, thanks |
| 02:10.22 | beardy | ppcthug: Or, if it's a dos formatted disk, and you just want to erase it and put a new FAT fs on it, install mtools and run 'mformat a:' |
| 02:10.28 | jhenn | EvilSporkMan: even x.org 7.0 does it |
| 02:10.54 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. are you using kde and this happens with gtk apps? |
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| 02:11.11 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: how'd you know? I can't confirm that it's limited to GTK apps...hold a tick |
| 02:11.26 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. same thing happened to me last week |
| 02:11.30 | cfrisch | bleaked ogg is more cpu intensive I ripped 120 cd's on a 500 Mhz p3. It took me three days. Grip is very good and accurate. |
| 02:11.32 | spook][68 | hi there! it's normal, when i've installed plesk that i can't use apt-get?? |
| 02:12.02 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: cdparanoia is slow because you get perfect rips or nothing |
| 02:12.21 | spook][68 | i can use it, but he want to to deinstall plesk before.. :/ |
| 02:12.31 | cfrisch | EvilSporkMan ;-) yup |
| 02:12.40 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. hrm..i see. one moment..i'll tell you how i fixed it. |
| 02:13.15 | Chrisjoy | quit next stop irssi |
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| 02:13.46 | cfrisch | whats the amd64 channel? |
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| 02:14.36 | EvilSporkMan | cfrisch: #debian-amd64 |
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| 02:14.45 | EvilSporkMan | i accidentally installed GTK+ from unstable a few weeks ago and now all the GTK menus are black text on a black background. how do i either downgrade or return them to their normal appearance? |
| 02:14.51 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. ok..make sure you have gtk2-engines-gtk-qt. It will integrate your gtk apps into kde very nicely. if this fixes it, great. it may not, since this happened to me even w/ that package. |
| 02:14.55 | cfrisch | EvilSporkMan aah..Thanks |
| 02:15.21 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan, so, go to the k control center |
| 02:15.46 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: i've definitely got it and KDE apps do the sameish trailing thing |
| 02:16.04 | EvilSporkMan | i don't think it's the same problem as jhenn tho and it's really not worth the bother of fixing |
| 02:16.27 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. and under Appearance & Themes, change your GTK style to another available one |
| 02:16.31 | caphuso | EvilSporkMan: if KDE does it, then it's probably some eye candy thing you can disable in the control panel ;-) |
| 02:16.33 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. Raleigh worked for me. |
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| 02:16.52 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. yea, if kde apps are doing it, you might have a deeper problem. |
| 02:16.58 | caphuso | of course, you've no such choice in gnome, because that would confuse the poor user |
| 02:17.11 | bleaked | lol |
| 02:17.23 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: what problem are you trying to fix? the black menus or the trailing? |
| 02:17.35 | bleaked | black menus in gtk apps |
| 02:17.42 | EvilSporkMan | i have the Qt theme on...raleigh didn't fix the black menus |
| 02:18.29 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. you have to restart kde, i believe. |
| 02:18.42 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: isn't that what the apply button does? |
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| 02:19.02 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. err..yes..i mean you have to restart the gtk app |
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| 02:20.07 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: don't have to do that when changing themes with gnome...i don't see why kde running should make it different |
| 02:20.34 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. you |
| 02:20.43 | bleaked | are in a qt environment. |
| 02:21.00 | caphuso | EvilSporkMan: is this the same issue? http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=9714 |
| 02:21.21 | bleaked | it makes a difference on my computer, so one might assume it would be required for your computer. |
| 02:21.29 | Malagmyr | Is it possible to, with a single command line, log on to another machine with SSH, run a single command there and log off (I have passwordless login using RSA keys)? I want this because I'd like to put running a specific command on another machine into my fluxbox menu. |
| 02:21.44 | caphuso | Malagmyr: ssh user@host command |
| 02:22.05 | EvilSporkMan | caphuso: yep, that's it! |
| 02:22.12 | Malagmyr | caphuso: and here I was thinking I needed at least 5 pipes and a corkscrew... |
| 02:22.15 | Malagmyr | caphuso: thanks! |
| 02:22.51 | EvilSporkMan | does that mean i have to rebuild gtk2-engines-gtk-qt? |
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| 02:23.14 | rich0rd | Hello everyone, i know there is a shell toconnect to via ssh, which kinda "holds" the session, so if i log out the child processes don't get killed, but i forgot the name of this program - can someone help me? |
| 02:23.32 | caphuso | rich0rd: screen? |
| 02:23.38 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: changing themes fixed it. i feel sheepish. |
| 02:23.39 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. why would you..it's in the reps |
| 02:23.46 | EvilSporkMan | bleaked: see caphuso's link |
| 02:23.56 | rich0rd | caphuso: hmn yeah sounds right, thx |
| 02:23.56 | caphuso | bleaked: because it's broken and needs a patch |
| 02:24.01 | bleaked | meh, happens. |
| 02:24.48 | caphuso | EvilSporkMan: it's tagged "pending upload" in the BTS, so might want to just wait a bit |
| 02:25.09 | EvilSporkMan | caphuso: this is the part i hate about testing...apparently half of KDE got updated recently but the other half didn't |
| 02:25.13 | EvilSporkMan | in particular, synaptic is now gone |
| 02:25.21 | EvilSporkMan | and some apt lib you need for apt-show-versions |
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| 02:25.43 | bleaked | EvilSporkMan. honestly, go with sarge or sid. testing is too crazy |
| 02:25.49 | caphuso | well, that's the prize you pay for not being completely bleeding edge and still getting frequent updates |
| 02:25.50 | Chrisjoy | rich0rd, are you sure you're not talking about bouncer service? |
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| 02:26.21 | hellrazor | so |
| 02:26.23 | hellrazor | Problemsolved |
| 02:26.27 | hellrazor | :) |
| 02:26.29 | EvilSporkMan | so is there some sort of "state of unstable" page so i can check if now is a good time to just say "fuck it" and go to unstable? |
| 02:26.33 | hellrazor | man Xwrapper.config |
| 02:26.44 | hellrazor | there was the answer :) |
| 02:26.45 | EvilSporkMan | **fsck |
| 02:26.53 | caphuso | EvilSporkMan: there have been tries to establish such a beast. they all failed |
| 02:26.55 | ansong | EvilSporkMan, if you have to ask, you're not ready |
| 02:27.09 | MikeDub | Matt-H: I'm half-way there i think |
| 02:27.17 | EvilSporkMan | ansong, caphuso: i quit using gentoo because i hate it when my system breaks |
| 02:27.25 | MikeDub | Matt-H: though the linux box cannot connect to any outside networks |
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| 02:28.42 | hellrazor | azeem i told it would work and now it works :) |
| 02:28.49 | Matt-H | MikeDub: as root, route -n - what's it say? |
| 02:28.50 | juice` | is it safe to get one of these repos http://amd64.debian.net/debian/README.mirrors.html and addd it to source.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade if im running i386 debian etch on amd64 proc ? |
| 02:28.58 | MikeDub | everything i google for returns results about making linux the router.. not making it connect to one as a gateway |
| 02:29.33 | MikeDub | Matt-H: http://pastebin.com/494397 |
| 02:30.00 | Trek00 | I have a problem of Segmentation fault on update-inetd on the latest debian stable (i'm using xinetd) |
| 02:30.04 | azeem | hellrazor: what did you change? |
| 02:30.09 | wwallace_lap | hello |
| 02:30.22 | hellrazor | azeem the answer is here : man Xwrapper.config |
| 02:30.32 | ansong | EvilSporkMan, then stable or testing is for you. testing isn't fun right now with the kde transition going on, and there's always backports for stable: stuff like openoffice.org |
| 02:30.44 | hellrazor | azeem changed the wrapper from console to everyone :) |
| 02:30.55 | EvilSporkMan | ansong: amd64 = no openoffice anyway |
| 02:30.56 | hellrazor | that's all |
| 02:31.24 | Matt-H | MikeDub: ah I see the problem... mask for destination 0.0.0.0 should also be 0.0.0.0... can you cat /etc/network/interfaces as well please |
| 02:31.43 | ansong | EvilSporkMan, i always use the i386 versions anyway. until x86-64 gets more mainstream |
| 02:31.46 | azeem | hellrazor: it should work with console as well, I thought |
| 02:31.49 | azeem | hellrazor: good to know |
| 02:31.50 | hellrazor | sometimes it is good to learn something about how to configure your distribution xDD |
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| 02:32.08 | hellrazor | azeem console won't work for me so i tried |
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| 02:32.16 | Trek00 | can anyone help me about a Segmentation fault problem o a debian perl script with the latest debian sarge? (not a memory problem, the gcc run fines) |
| 02:32.20 | kino | how can I get alsa to save my volume between boots? |
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| 02:32.25 | jhenn | why is it when i drap a window it smears? Is everyones X like that? |
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| 02:32.40 | hellrazor | hm... |
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| 02:33.02 | phogg | kino: alsactrl -store 0 |
| 02:33.12 | phogg | only, it's alsactl |
| 02:33.13 | hellrazor | is fvwm an good dekstop ? |
| 02:33.32 | MikeDub | Matt-H: http://pastebin.com/494400 |
| 02:33.36 | phogg | and the actual command is alsactl store 0 ; alsactl restore 0 |
| 02:34.30 | kino | so I need to make an init script? |
| 02:35.01 | Matt-H | MikeDub: not sure I'm afriad... that looks as it should |
| 02:35.02 | simpletron | hola hola |
| 02:35.03 | hellrazor | hm.. no teamspeak as deb package |
| 02:35.09 | hellrazor | dawn... |
| 02:35.10 | MikeDub | well poop |
| 02:35.32 | Matt-H | MikeDub: it being 02:35 AM doesn't help my brain either ;) |
| 02:35.36 | simpletron | hellrazor: fvwm is a great windows manager not a desktop |
| 02:35.40 | EvilSporkMan | the "kde transition" is to KDE 4, right? |
| 02:35.50 | simpletron | hellrazor: but in debian using the debian menu is great |
| 02:35.53 | MikeDub | do i need to refresh anything after "route add ..."? |
| 02:35.57 | MikeDub | or shoudl that do it? |
| 02:36.10 | Matt-H | MikeDub: that should do it. Can you route through it from other PCs? |
| 02:36.27 | simpletron | hellrazor: fvwm is a little dificul use it but is great |
| 02:36.32 | drivamgr2006 | Matt H - a quick G&T would help... however, getting some sleep would be better for your brain! |
| 02:36.38 | Trek00 | /idle |
| 02:36.39 | albo | /etc/timezone is mountain, tzconfig tells me mountain. date tells me CST. what is going on |
| 02:36.40 | Trek00 | ops |
| 02:36.54 | rich0rd | Matt-H it's 3:40 over here :) |
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| 02:37.24 | Matt-H | rich0rd: I'll think myself lucky then... will probably still be up when it's 3:40 over here anyway |
| 02:37.32 | MikeDub | Matt-H: what do you mean? can i connect via another though the router? or can i use another pc to route though? |
| 02:37.32 | drivamgr2006 | rich0rd: you western europe??? |
| 02:37.37 | drivamgr2006 | which tz? |
| 02:37.40 | rich0rd | .at |
| 02:37.55 | drivamgr2006 | .uk this end. you gmt+1 |
| 02:38.40 | juice` | is it safe to get one of these repos http://amd64.debian.net/debian/README.mirrors.html and addd it to source.list and do apt-get dist-upgrade if im running i386 debian etch on amd64 proc ? |
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| 02:38.56 | EvilSporkMan | juice`: no |
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| 02:39.10 | Trek00 | albo: are you relogged int? |
| 02:39.17 | Trek00 | albo: in not int |
| 02:39.23 | albo | Trek00: ?? |
| 02:39.28 | juice` | EvilSporkMan: how unsafe is it? |
| 02:39.41 | EvilSporkMan | juice`: won't work. |
| 02:39.48 | Trek00 | albo: after to set the timezone you should login |
| 02:39.53 | drivamgr2006 | Gin and Tonic at 2.40 in the morning is just begging for a hangover the size of .pt in the morning! |
| 02:40.04 | Trek00 | albo: date should use the current environment variables |
| 02:40.04 | juice` | EvilSporkMan: oh. any other way to change from i386 to amd64 without reinstall ? |
| 02:40.12 | Guerin | drivamgr2006: only if it's your first |
| 02:40.16 | hellrazor | simpletron is there a way to get the debian menue on the latest ? |
| 02:40.16 | juice` | I dont have physicall access to the server |
| 02:40.19 | albo | Trek00: dude, no. im talking about /etc/timezone, and i just restarted the server |
| 02:40.30 | Trek00 | albo: ops sorry i'm confused :D |
| 02:40.33 | hellrazor | simpletron that it shows all software ? |
| 02:41.27 | MikeDub | Matt-H: well thanks for all the help, I guess i'll keep plugging away |
| 02:41.31 | Matt-H | MikeDub: can you connect to the world through router from another PC? Although you're probably doing that to be here in IRC |
| 02:41.41 | drivamgr2006 | Its not Guerin - its my 4th |
| 02:41.44 | MikeDub | Matt-H: i sure am |
| 02:41.55 | MikeDub | both my pc and laptop are online via the router |
| 02:41.56 | EvilSporkMan | juice`: um...i'm thinking no |
| 02:42.00 | EvilSporkMan | juice`: ask in #debian-amd64 |
| 02:42.12 | Matt-H | MikeDub: second time I've asked someone something daft along those lines this week |
| 02:42.42 | MikeDub | no problem man. gotta single out every possible reason |
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| 02:43.21 | drivamgr2006 | Matt-H: No question is ever daft, just appears so at first! |
| 02:43.38 | MikeDub | the linux PC can connect to my router's web interface, and ping every other machine behind the router |
| 02:43.43 | MikeDub | just can't access anything outside |
| 02:44.02 | roue | did you make the router's ip address the default gateway? |
| 02:44.03 | Trek00 | albo: /etc/localtime is a symlink that points to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Mountain ? |
| 02:44.08 | MikeDub | that's what i'm trying to do |
| 02:44.10 | MikeDub | :P |
| 02:44.10 | Matt-H | I think it's because in the routing table the default gateway entry (0.0.0.0) has somehow got a netmask of 255.255.255.0 set |
| 02:44.25 | Guerin | MikeDub: try pinging an ip address instead of a domain name |
| 02:44.29 | MikeDub | i have |
| 02:44.30 | drivamgr2006 | better go get some sleep before my typing goes right to pot. night all |
| 02:44.32 | rich0rd | MikeDub: what's the default route? |
| 02:44.46 | MikeDub | pinging a domain name is silly |
| 02:44.57 | roue | route add default gw eth0 ? |
| 02:45.00 | rich0rd | ping www.stupid.com |
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| 02:45.25 | roue | er. |
| 02:45.28 | roue | maybe not. |
| 02:45.35 | MikeDub | eth1 is my network adapter |
| 02:46.01 | MikeDub | well, the one that's being used |
| 02:46.07 | roue | route add default gw ip-addr-of-router |
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| 02:47.02 | Trek00 | albo: is /etc/localtime a symlink that points to /usr/share/zoneinfo/Canada/Mountain ? |
| 02:47.14 | Matt-H | roue: that'll be lost when he next boots though - he's got "gateway ip-of-router" in /etc/network/interfaces though so I don't see why it would fail |
| 02:47.37 | roue | what's the interfaces file look like? can you paste it somewhere? |
| 02:47.37 | naoliv | Hi. How can I make an install more verbose, using aptitude? For example, "aptitude install foo", with some magic flag, that will show me everything that is happening. |
| 02:48.03 | Matt-H | roue: http://pastebin.com/494400 |
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| 02:48.20 | MikeDub | roue: http://pastebin.com/494400 |
| 02:48.21 | albo | Trek00: thanks, yousolved it |
| 02:48.28 | Trek00 | :) |
| 02:48.36 | Matt-H | actually that dns-search line might upset it |
| 02:48.52 | spook][68 | anyone here who've installed plesk on his server? |
| 02:49.12 | MikeDub | yeah, i don't actually have the <mydomain> in there, it's an actual domain |
| 02:49.16 | MikeDub | i could remove that though |
| 02:49.32 | roue | looks exactly like mine except for the pre-up line. do you really need that? |
| 02:49.34 | Matt-H | ah |
| 02:49.36 | MikeDub | this is route -n now |
| 02:49.40 | MikeDub | http://pastebin.com/494409 |
| 02:49.57 | Matt-H | does it work now? |
| 02:50.21 | MikeDub | well, i'll try to ping you |
| 02:50.42 | MikeDub | OMG |
| 02:50.52 | Matt-H | the only difference between now and before is the netmask on the 0.0.0.0 (default route) entry |
| 02:51.09 | roue | I think it's your router. do other systems on the network get to the world properly? |
| 02:51.36 | MikeDub | i can ping outside now |
| 02:51.59 | MikeDub | thanks dudes |
| 02:52.06 | MikeDub | now i just have to get dns working |
| 02:52.08 | Matt-H | so if you've got your ISP's name servers in /etc/resolv.conf you'll be able to do domains too |
| 02:52.16 | MikeDub | ya |
| 02:52.21 | MikeDub | that's the file i was looking for |
| 02:52.23 | MikeDub | ty |
| 02:52.28 | Matt-H | np :) |
| 02:52.39 | MikeDub | I'll use the local univeristy dns, i trust them more |
| 02:52.48 | MikeDub | but yeah |
| 02:53.37 | MikeDub | rockin |
| 02:53.43 | MikeDub | this is why i love irc |
| 02:54.01 | Matt-H | because you find helpful people up at insane hours of the morning? ;-) |
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| 02:54.12 | MikeDub | damn right! |
| 02:54.21 | MikeDub | that's when all the helpful people are around |
| 02:54.30 | stew | !no apt secure is in version >= 0.6 apt has the ability to verify gpg signatures of packages. read about it here: http://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt also see http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/174, or ask me about <apt-key 4F368D5D>, or ask me about <2006 key> |
| 02:54.30 | MikeDub | at "normal" hours, they're at work ;) |
| 02:54.30 | dpkg | stew: okay |
| 02:54.43 | rich0rd | or ... at sleep ;) |
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| 02:54.49 | MikeDub | psh, sleep. |
| 02:54.59 | MikeDub | sleep is for the rested |
| 02:55.01 | Matt-H | MikeDub: I'm on IRC at work anyway ;-) |
| 02:55.04 | rich0rd | coffee - you can sleep when you're dead |
| 02:55.28 | MikeDub | Matt-H: yeah, me too.. but don't tell work that :P |
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| 02:55.53 | MikeDub | I'm not even supposed to check my email while i'm at work.. wonder how they'd feel about me sshing into home |
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| 02:56.40 | Matt-H | MikeDub: I make the AUP at work (I'm network manager at a school and there's just me looking after the network) ;-) |
| 02:56.48 | MikeDub | hah |
| 02:56.59 | Matt-H | hell I even run my business from work |
| 02:57.09 | MikeDub | what business? |
| 02:57.21 | Matt-H | web hosting etc. business |
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| 02:58.48 | FunkOnCrack | how do i access my debian pc from xp pro. can i log in as root from my xp machine? |
| 02:59.11 | stew | FunkOnCrack: yes, install ssh on debian and install putty on xp |
| 02:59.24 | FunkOnCrack | ok, google here I come! thanks |
| 02:59.39 | stew | FunkOnCrack: apt-get install ssh, putty will be the top hit on google |
| 02:59.44 | MikeDub | nifty |
| 03:00.05 | MikeDub | host 'em from the school network? :P |
| 03:00.16 | MikeDub | then again, who's gonna tell on yo |
| 03:00.17 | MikeDub | u |
| 03:00.29 | Matt-H | MikeDub: nah - we can only get a 2mbit adsl connection there. Stuck them in a data centre in London |
| 03:00.34 | Guerin | !u |
| 03:00.34 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:00.40 | wwallace_lap | hi Guerin |
| 03:00.58 | MikeDub | good man |
| 03:01.03 | wwallace_lap | !tell MikeDub about enter |
| 03:01.27 | wwallace_lap | hi Guerin |
| 03:01.39 | MikeDub | thanks wwallace, I appreciate that. |
| 03:01.50 | wwallace_lap | np MikeDub |
| 03:02.03 | kspath | I scratched out Enter and wrote Return on my keyboard will it still work with Debian? /me runs for the hills |
| 03:02.03 | MikeDub | I always mistake enter for a period |
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| 03:02.44 | stew | kspath: run xkeycaps before you go |
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| 03:03.22 | MikeDub | do you suppose oident would solvemy irc ident woes? |
| 03:03.24 | wwallace_lap | Guerin: hi |
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| 03:03.48 | Matt-H | MikeDub: if you forward the port (113 IIRC?) it should |
| 03:04.11 | MikeDub | yeah 113 |
| 03:04.23 | MikeDub | well i guess i'll give ti a shot |
| 03:04.41 | FunkOnCrack | stew, thank you, it works straight away |
| 03:04.43 | wwallace_lap | Matt-H: forwart to where par me asking? |
| 03:04.50 | Guerin | wwallace_lap: are you ok? |
| 03:05.00 | Matt-H | wwallace_lap: from his router to his PC |
| 03:05.05 | wwallace_lap | ok just saying hi Guerin |
| 03:05.13 | wwallace_lap | oh ok Matt-H |
| 03:05.30 | kspath | lol gui ~= evil |
| 03:05.37 | stew | MikeDub: nullidentd is a simple solution if you just want to satisfy someone who has a bogus identd requiremnt |
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| 03:05.53 | ootput | does anybody here use backup ninja? |
| 03:05.58 | MikeDub | like every efnet server? |
| 03:06.00 | MikeDub | :P |
| 03:06.04 | stew | MikeDub: yes |
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| 03:07.30 | MikeDub | i just need something that allow the one eggdrop running on the box to return an ident, and allows me and my gf to connect to irc with a "valid" ident. |
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| 03:07.34 | MikeDub | I'll give it a shot. |
| 03:07.38 | Guerin | ootput: i wouldn't ever let a ninja back up my stuff |
| 03:07.59 | MikeDub | and by me and my gfi I mean my PC and lappy, respectively |
| 03:08.16 | Guerin | MikeDub: you irc with your grandfather? |
| 03:08.24 | Guerin | kinky |
| 03:08.33 | stew | MikeDub: if you need valid ident then nullident isn't for you, nullidentd just returns the same thing no matter what anyone asks about anything |
| 03:08.45 | MikeDub | ah |
| 03:08.50 | MikeDub | yeah, i just read that |
| 03:09.20 | kspath | an ascii picture of a middle finger would make a great reply for ident shame |
| 03:09.22 | stew | (which is good enough for many cases) |
| 03:09.30 | MikeDub | Guerin: yeah, he likes to cyber as a 14 year old chearleader. it's pretty gross, but he's old so i figure he'll die soon. |
| 03:09.38 | MikeDub | either that, or gf = girlfriend. |
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| 03:09.52 | stew | and since such bogus data can be returned from ident you can see how usefull ident is for other services to require... |
| 03:10.05 | MikeDub | I needed to get her a laptop so she would leave me the heck alone so i could do my work. |
| 03:10.17 | MikeDub | yeah. |
| 03:10.44 | FunkOnCrack | where do i fint the apache config file? and how do i edit it through ssh? or is that not possible? |
| 03:11.01 | whitehorse1 | Can anyone give me any pointers on Apache 1.3 with trying to get a local installation of livejournal running? Everything seems installed correctly and checks out ok, database apparently populated, user/group 'lj' starts apache in httpd.conf and was given db access but when I try to access the local installation in a web browser with localhost:80 I don't get anything. I've read (and little understood) the docs. (Oh, and am running e |
| 03:11.16 | Matt-H | FunkOnCrack: usually /etc/apache/httpd.conf by default |
| 03:11.26 | Guerin | MikeDub: your girlfriend likes to cyber at a 14 year old cheerleader? |
| 03:11.27 | repp | FunkOnCrack: or /etc/apache2 |
| 03:11.32 | MikeDub | use wordpress |
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| 03:11.45 | stew | whitehorse1: have you read /usr/share/doc/packagename? |
| 03:11.58 | FunkOnCrack | thank you guys/gals :) |
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| 03:12.07 | stew | whitehorse1: likely you need to make an alias to /usr/share/livejournal or somesuch |
| 03:12.09 | MikeDub | Guerin: sure |
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| 03:12.20 | whitehorse1 | MikeDub Nope, I want to experiment with LJ. stew: Yes. Understanding it of course is a different matter. Ah I'll look into that |
| 03:12.49 | Flimzy | I have a dual-head (I think) GeForce 6200 AGP... has a VGA and DVI ports... I have each plugged into a monitor... but with X, how do I differintiate between the two outputs for xinerama? |
| 03:13.04 | FunkOnCrack | I get permission denied when i access httpd.conf, what am I doing wrong? |
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| 03:13.18 | MikeDub | you aren't root |
| 03:13.37 | FunkOnCrack | :/ damn, i'm sure i logged in as root |
| 03:13.42 | ootput | Guerin: :) |
| 03:13.47 | Flimzy | FunkOnCrack, whoami |
| 03:13.53 | stew | Flimzy: are you reading the xinerame howto? |
| 03:13.57 | FunkOnCrack | root |
| 03:14.00 | FunkOnCrack | :/ |
| 03:14.09 | Flimzy | stew: No... not since I set it up with 2 separate cards |
| 03:14.33 | stew | Flimzy: it still applies |
| 03:14.36 | morteoh | hm, why is locales removed from unstable now? should i use something else instead? (installing locales remove base-config) |
| 03:14.40 | kino | packages.debian.org still down |
| 03:14.46 | Flimzy | stew, checking |
| 03:14.52 | stew | Flimzy: do you have something like Screen"Screen1" leftof "Screen0" in your serverlayout? |
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| 03:15.32 | Flimzy | stew: not yet. I guess I was just assuming I'd need two card definitions. But maybe I just need to set up 2 monitors, each using the same card deff? |
| 03:15.53 | stew | Flimzy: no, you need to device dfinitions, and one screen definition for each |
| 03:16.08 | Flimzy | stew: hrm, okay |
| 03:16.16 | stew | Flimzy: each device definition has to have a busid |
| 03:16.19 | Flimzy | do they both use the same BusID? |
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| 03:16.32 | Flimzy | stew: that's where I'm stuck then |
| 03:16.34 | stew | Flimzy: if they are both on the same card then yes, but you still definately need it |
| 03:16.51 | Guerin | should I have any difficulty getting $random_USB2_pcmcia_card to work with linux? |
| 03:16.53 | FunkOnCrack | I still get permission denied on httpd.conf when a whoami defines me as root. Anyone know why? |
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| 03:17.05 | Guerin | doesn't seem like I should, but you never can tell with these things |
| 03:17.14 | stew | Flimzy: if you put your conf on a pastebin before my wife starts this movie i'll look at it |
| 03:17.18 | Flimzy | stew: Okay. It's the same physical vid card... and there's only one entry in /proc/cpi |
| 03:17.20 | Flimzy | s/cpi/pci/ |
| 03:17.36 | Flimzy | stew: Thanks, but I think it'll take me a few mins to get one ready to test |
| 03:17.37 | stew | Flimzy: even if its the same card you need two device sections |
| 03:17.41 | Matt-H | FunkOnCrack: what command are you using to edit it? |
| 03:17.53 | Flimzy | stew: Okay. Two device sections, but both with the same BusID then? |
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| 03:18.01 | stew | Flimzy: yes |
| 03:18.10 | Flimzy | cool. I think I can handle it from there |
| 03:18.10 | Flimzy | thanks |
| 03:18.38 | FunkOnCrack | I just typed in /etc/apache2/httpd.conf :/ where can I find a list of commands? |
| 03:18.47 | smagy2 | hello folks, can some tell me what it means when fsck /adevice spews out a lot of numbers after a while. i am running fsck on a raid 5 partiion with ext3 filesystem |
| 03:18.49 | stew | Flimzy: actually, i have mine online: http://vireo.org/~stew/xorg.conf.dualhead |
| 03:18.51 | Matt-H | that'll try and execute it - and it's not got execute permissions |
| 03:18.56 | Flimzy | stew: cool, thanks. |
| 03:19.10 | FunkOnCrack | so how would I edit it? |
| 03:19.11 | DracoDan | is there a compatibility list for debian? |
| 03:19.19 | Matt-H | FunkOnCrack: either vi /etc/apache2/httpd.conf or nano /etc/apache2/httpd.conf depending on what's installed- for the beginner, nano is a lot easier (or use a different editor) |
| 03:19.26 | stew | Flimzy: make sure to take note of screen layout with the "screen0" left of "screen1" or whatever |
| 03:19.36 | Flimzy | stew: yeah, okay |
| 03:19.50 | FunkOnCrack | Matt-H: thank you! |
| 03:19.51 | stew | Flimzy: and the fact that there is a "Screen 0" and "Screen 1" in the two device sections |
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| 03:20.04 | DracoDan | im new to debian (newer than new, still trying to decide on it), i had planned to use freebsd on this server, but its pissing me off to the point that im about ready to give up on it |
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| 03:20.07 | bucky | FunkOnCrack, cat /etc/apache2/README |
| 03:20.23 | rich0rd | flimzy: i have a g4ti4400 with a dualhead setup |
| 03:20.42 | charlesnw | hello all. i have a question regarding apt-get update and the NO_PUBKEY. is there a howto on getting it fixed? i presume the new key is out and thats causing the issue? |
| 03:20.51 | Flimzy | I had a GF 440MX and a Matrox Mistique II in dual-head for a while... but finally got a dual-head card |
| 03:21.00 | Matt-H | charlesnw: see topic |
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| 03:21.09 | FunkOnCrack | bucky: thank you, that helps a lot |
| 03:21.10 | smagy2 | draco: what info are you looking for ? |
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| 03:21.29 | whitehorse1 | charlesnw: repositories down I thought. hmm guess I'd better check the newsitems too |
| 03:21.37 | charlesnw | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 03:21.39 | charlesnw | sorry |
| 03:21.40 | rich0rd | Flimzy: this is a dualhead card - xorg or xf86? |
| 03:21.40 | Diazepam | can anyone recommend a folder encryption program that works under X (e.g right mouse click > encrypt) ??? |
| 03:22.05 | Flimzy | rich0rd: xorg |
| 03:22.36 | rich0rd | Flimzy: excellent, i got it working, and since the nvidia driver is the same for every card it should work |
| 03:22.44 | benjamindees | Diazepam, interesting nick, konqueror does that I believe |
| 03:22.52 | Flimzy | rich0rd: Want to send me your config? |
| 03:23.00 | rich0rd | Flimzy: sure - where to? |
| 03:23.05 | Flimzy | rich0rd: then I can just tweak it for my monitors |
| 03:23.09 | charlesnw | thanks for the help Matt-H |
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| 03:23.17 | Matt-H | ChanServ: no probs :) |
| 03:23.19 | Flimzy | thanks |
| 03:23.20 | Matt-H | oops |
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| 03:24.25 | ppcthug | I'm installing debian sarge once again, the installer is asking which debian mirror apt should use, I should use a mirror close to me. I don't know which one is close to me. |
| 03:24.33 | ppcthug | I live in california btw |
| 03:25.12 | rich0rd | Flimzy: on the way |
| 03:25.20 | Estes | I know the question will seem stupid but... i got here a cd half broken. i wondered if it would be eventually possible to read the bits that are still accessible by any way ? i'd deal with the rest just... in case |
| 03:25.28 | Flimzy | rich0rd: thanks a lot! |
| 03:25.29 | Estes | i tried to dd it but it won't find it |
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| 03:26.03 | _ldy_ | ppcthug: You can use one you know, and after you install debian. |
| 03:26.26 | rich0rd | Flimzy: the Option TwinView is important for you |
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| 03:26.30 | _ldy_ | ppcthug: apt-get install apt-spy. apt-spy is a tool which have you find the fastest mirror for you. |
| 03:26.44 | Diazepam | benjamindees: does it depend on KGPG ? |
| 03:26.45 | Flimzy | rich0rd: okay |
| 03:26.49 | _ldy_ | ppcthug: have -> help |
| 03:26.53 | ppcthug | uh ok, thanks |
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| 03:27.03 | simonrvn | dondelelcaro: ping |
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| 03:27.33 | benjamindees | Diazepam, apparently |
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| 03:27.42 | begginer | where I can obtain ubuntu linux? |
| 03:27.51 | ootput | begginer: google |
| 03:27.57 | Estes | begginer, why asking this in #debian ? |
| 03:28.07 | Estes | debian != ubuntu |
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| 03:28.18 | _ldy_ | ppcthug: welcome, I just come to that package. But I am useing ubuntu now. apt-spy can not help me find ubuntu mirrors. It only helpful for debianer. |
| 03:28.21 | simonrvn | !ubuntu |
| 03:28.21 | dpkg | from memory, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 03:28.52 | begginer | excuse me! |
| 03:28.57 | _ldy_ | begginer: freenode has a channel named ubuntu :-) |
| 03:29.01 | simonrvn | np |
| 03:29.02 | begginer | ok |
| 03:29.04 | begginer | :P |
| 03:29.18 | begginer | I read ubuntu based in debian |
| 03:29.23 | begginer | :P |
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| 03:29.40 | ootput | it's pretty far off |
| 03:29.49 | beginer | I have a 2Mbps ADSL connection... I start the server, I check bandwidth and I have cca. 1600kbps. In time, the connection is going down and after few hor i have 200...300kbps... i restart debian and when i check, all become to normal at 1600kbps... what is that? |
| 03:30.03 | ootput | and why aren't you in #ubuntu, as many have requested? |
| 03:30.15 | molinero | :D |
| 03:30.41 | Guerin | beginer: 'bandwidth check' websites always lie |
| 03:30.45 | simonrvn | ffs |
| 03:30.52 | beardy | !tell begginer -about based on debian |
| 03:31.03 | phyberoptix | a 2mb dsl line isnt going to push 1600kB/s |
| 03:31.19 | Metza | haha |
| 03:31.26 | simonrvn | that's kilobits anyway... |
| 03:31.28 | Metza | rather impossible :) |
| 03:31.29 | Guerin | beginer: i have 100 megabit internet, which I've benchmarked at > 80 megabit, and all the bandwidth test reports tell me it's ~6 megabit |
| 03:31.32 | Guerin | why? |
| 03:31.44 | ootput | 100 megabit internet? |
| 03:31.47 | ootput | nice |
| 03:31.48 | Guerin | because all the bandwidth test sites are affiliated with 'faster download' spyware |
| 03:31.57 | Metza | I am also on 100mbit |
| 03:32.05 | phyberoptix | i got a 5mb line and get around 700kB/s |
| 03:32.06 | ootput | how much of a premium? |
| 03:32.10 | Matt-H | and it depends on their connectivity and general traffic |
| 03:32.14 | ootput | phyberoptix: that's what i have |
| 03:32.18 | Metza | the speed tests(raw tcp and udp send/recv) |
| 03:32.33 | Metza | I get 96mbit at best downstream |
| 03:32.33 | beginer | ok... but my connection is going down... dc++ and odc id going down... download the same... |
| 03:32.38 | beardy | !brag about your connection |
| 03:32.41 | Metza | from dedicated testservers though |
| 03:32.46 | Metza | no no beardy |
| 03:32.48 | Guerin | i can get ~7.5 megaBYTES per second from a university about 25km away |
| 03:32.53 | Metza | just got it, of course im happy about it :) |
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| 03:33.16 | Metza | tptest.sourceforge.net |
| 03:33.16 | simonrvn | !ipenis |
| 03:33.16 | dpkg | somebody said ipenis was what folks on IRC use to flout their egos. It's usually directly measured by the number of kernels compiled in one's lifetime. |
| 03:33.21 | Guerin | but anything farther afield is just never going to be accurate |
| 03:33.23 | beardy | ah |
| 03:33.26 | Guerin | heh |
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| 03:33.41 | Metza | Guerin: what kidna tests u spoke about which lied? |
| 03:33.49 | Metza | those java-based? |
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| 03:33.53 | ootput | most java-based |
| 03:33.57 | Metza | ok |
| 03:33.59 | Metza | try tptest |
| 03:34.00 | Guerin | Metza: google broadband test |
| 03:34.09 | begginer | a friend I burn a CD of ubuntu |
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| 03:34.10 | begginer | and it said to me that he is similar to Debian |
| 03:34.17 | Metza | Guerin: I know of them |
| 03:34.23 | ootput | or follow dslreports forums |
| 03:34.26 | beardy | begginer: /join #ubuntu |
| 03:34.27 | Guerin | Metza: unless the test server is in korea, which they aren't, then it's not going to be accurate |
| 03:34.32 | Metza | http://sourceforge.net/projects/tptest/ |
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| 03:34.43 | Metza | Guerin: I know so I dont doubt that |
| 03:34.46 | Matt-H | begginer: "similar to" != "is"... #ubuntu would be better |
| 03:34.46 | Guerin | not that I really care, as long as I get a couple hundred k per sec] |
| 03:34.49 | ootput | begginer: you get better support there |
| 03:34.50 | Metza | I just react on "lie" |
| 03:34.57 | Metza | they do not work good |
| 03:35.15 | Metza | Im sure they measure it correctly :) |
| 03:35.19 | Guerin | Metza: they do lie. They pretend to tell you how fast your connection is, without controlling for all the millions of other variables. |
| 03:35.23 | beginer | i don't care i have 2mbps and bandwidth test show me 1600kbps... why my band is going donwn and after i restart debin all become to normal... |
| 03:35.37 | Guerin | beginer: it's not. |
| 03:35.39 | Metza | its just that by choose of software n platform, machine, connection etc etc |
| 03:35.44 | Metza | they suck |
| 03:35.46 | beardy | !reboot |
| 03:35.46 | dpkg | you want to reboot for WHAT?? If it's not a new kernel or a hardware change, you probably don't need to reboot. Ask me about qotd2 |
| 03:35.53 | Metza | Guerin: yeah |
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| 03:35.59 | Metza | I c the missudnerstandning |
| 03:36.06 | beardy | !c |
| 03:36.06 | dpkg | See, or S-E-E. If you're too lazy to spell it out, we're too lazy to help you. |
| 03:36.17 | simonrvn | yeh, cluelessness |
| 03:37.00 | Metza | of course they will only tell you what you get to and from them and their java-based(most certainly windows based :pPpPpP) code s |
| 03:37.34 | Metza | and I understood that by their site |
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| 03:37.44 | Metza | so I dont see the lie |
| 03:37.45 | Matt-H | ahh just noticed there's two beginners - beginer and begginer.. that was confusing for a while |
| 03:37.56 | beardy | !confuse Matt-H |
| 03:37.56 | dpkg | No, them was my gouda yesterday, Matt-H? lederhosen of the people's republic of mongolia with extra anchovies |
| 03:38.42 | Matt-H | hehe |
| 03:38.49 | begginer | I am the one that uses Ubuntu |
| 03:38.54 | Metza | Guerin: where you at? |
| 03:38.55 | beardy | wow |
| 03:39.09 | whitehorse1 | hmm 400megs of apt updates. sarcastic yippees. |
| 03:39.19 | Metza | Guerin: lets see what u get from my all-in-one-service-server :) |
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| 03:40.00 | beardy | !u |
| 03:40.00 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 03:41.56 | Guerin | Metza: apt-get install geoip-bin |
| 03:42.29 | kspath | Ewe! |
| 03:42.44 | kspath | !Ewe |
| 03:42.44 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
| 03:43.01 | beginer | someone tell something about ip_conntrack_max... any ideea about that? |
| 03:43.19 | Guerin | beginer: you don't need to know. |
| 03:43.30 | kspath | !worthy |
| 03:43.47 | Guerin | beginer: the default is enough for you, unless you run an *extremely* busy p2p server |
| 03:44.08 | Guerin | and on 2MB/s, you CAN'T |
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| 03:44.22 | beginer | and what is default? |
| 03:44.26 | ootput | it's the up that's important |
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| 03:46.03 | beginer | kernel: NET: 42 messages suppressed. |
| 03:46.03 | beginer | kernel: ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. |
| 03:46.03 | beginer | kernel: NET: 42 messages suppressed. |
| 03:46.03 | beginer | kernel: ip_conntrack: table full, dropping packet. |
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| 03:46.18 | beginer | what is that? |
| 03:46.26 | Matt-H | beginer: read the quit message |
| 03:46.29 | Guerin | beginer: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max |
| 03:46.41 | TraceGreen | Hello, i try to install openoffice: apt-get install openoffice.org, but after installed, i can't find openoffice |
| 03:46.43 | Guerin | beginer: what are you running? azureus? |
| 03:47.04 | Guerin | TraceGreen: which part of it do you want to run? |
| 03:47.40 | TraceGreen | Guerin, i mean ,i want to start openoffice. |
| 03:48.00 | TraceGreen | and i type "openoffice" in my terminal |
| 03:48.09 | Matt-H | TraceGreen: which part do you want to start? Writer? Presentation bit? Spreadsheet bit? |
| 03:48.14 | beginer | /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_conntrack_max -> nothing here |
| 03:48.17 | Guerin | TraceGreen: guessing at program names is rarely useful |
| 03:49.16 | TraceGreen | Guerin, whereis openoffice, but no binary executable. |
| 03:49.30 | TraceGreen | Guerin, i mean, i can't even start openoffice. |
| 03:49.41 | Guerin | i know what you mean |
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| 03:49.56 | Guerin | TraceGreen: each segment has its own executable |
| 03:49.58 | limosnero | somebody expert in GIMP? |
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| 03:50.16 | limosnero | or guru in GIMP? |
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| 03:50.21 | Guerin | TraceGreen: oowriter, oocalc, etc. I'd guess the basic openoffic widget which calls the others is oobase |
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| 03:50.31 | Guerin | limosnero: #gimp irc.gimp.org |
| 03:50.51 | limosnero | ok, thank you very much! |
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| 03:51.09 | TraceGreen | Guerin, when you run : whereis openoffice, you may find /usr/bin/openoffice, right? |
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| 03:51.24 | Set | hey all |
| 03:51.29 | Set | I have one small question |
| 03:51.38 | Set | is it dangerous to be kicked to he head? |
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| 03:51.44 | Guerin | TraceGreen: no, because there is no /*/openoffice executable |
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| 03:51.58 | Guerin | TraceGreen: if you want there to be one, file a wishlist bug against openoffice.org-base |
| 03:52.27 | raf256[laptop] | Guerin: hi |
| 03:52.50 | TraceGreen | Guerin, so, when you want to start *.doc, how can you do that? openoffice try.doc, right? |
| 03:52.51 | Guerin | TraceGreen: to find out what to run, you need to either rely on the menu entries created by the packages on install, or on reading the README for the packages, or on the output of dpkg -L for each pacage |
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| 03:54.38 | dusty-- | davFr, Could you recommend a decent GUI (for running under gnome) bittorrent client? |
| 03:54.39 | dusty-- | or can anyone? |
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| 03:55.12 | sanxiyn | dusty--: I'm fine with the official client, actually. |
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| 03:55.23 | blahdebla1 | dusty--: I love azureus |
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| 03:56.23 | Opiated | last night, at the local LUG meeting, they were passing out ubuntu 5.10 cds. So I took one, and installed it on one of my boxes. All I can say is this, it was a horribe experience and I am still recovering from it :( |
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| 03:56.50 | tung | maybe silly question... how do i find the version of the gnome im using? |
| 03:57.02 | dusty-- | sanxiyn, blahdebla1 how do you install it? |
| 03:57.12 | Opiated | tung: apt-cache show gnome |
| 03:57.33 | Opiated | tung: it should give you not only the package version, but the software version too |
| 03:57.40 | sanxiyn | dusty--: aptitude install {bittorrent-gui,azureus} |
| 03:57.54 | tung | Opiated: thanks, i should know that by now |
| 03:58.13 | Guerin | TraceGreen: did you get any of that? |
| 03:58.18 | Opiated | sanxiyn: qtorrent I use, and very good it is |
| 03:58.27 | sanxiyn | Opiated: Well, tell dusty. |
| 03:58.27 | notenoughnicks | Could someone please explain to me why this doesn't work? http://channels.debian.net/paste/1486 |
| 03:58.42 | Paivakil | Opiated: afaict Ubuntu uses the Debian installer; so why was your experrience bad? |
| 03:58.55 | Guerin | Paivakil: he likes brown. |
| 03:59.02 | Opiated | what an a4 size paper, what happened to good old landscape and letter :/ |
| 03:59.06 | Opiated | what is* |
| 03:59.13 | notenoughnicks | Opiated: Europe |
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| 03:59.24 | Opiated | oh screw europe |
| 03:59.25 | blahdebla1 | dusty--: I actually downloaded azureus from the main site rather than using apt*, because it automatically upgrades itself and i didn't want it to be out of sync with the dpkg database. I just threw it in /opt/azureus |
| 03:59.29 | notenoughnicks | Opiated: Maybe the whole rest of the world. |
| 03:59.29 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: because it's wrong |
| 03:59.33 | rich0rd | I am wondering why some packages depend on minor version numbers- the interface should be stable in one major number (or do i miss something), it is sometimes a pain in the *** if you want to install some software and it depends on some 0.11.11 version |
| 03:59.47 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: Could you please explain how it's wrong? I've checked the man pages... |
| 03:59.52 | Guerin | rich0rd: that's not always the case. |
| 03:59.53 | TraceGreen | Guerin, no. |
| 03:59.57 | blahdebla1 | noenoughnicks/Opiated: all of .au, at least. ;-) |
| 03:59.57 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: test and [ are basically the same thing. using both at the very same time is pretty silly |
| 03:59.58 | sanxiyn | Opiated: Is there a country that doesn't use A4 ?! |
| 04:00.00 | Opiated | notenoughnicks: you should check the woman pages |
| 04:00.01 | Guerin | TraceGreen: ok |
| 04:00.05 | TraceGreen | when i update, some error about gpg |
| 04:00.12 | Guerin | TraceGreen: to find out what to run, you need to either rely on the menu entries created by the packages on install, or on reading the README for the packages, or on the output of dpkg -L for each pacage |
| 04:00.13 | sanxiyn | TraceGreen: /topic |
| 04:00.19 | blahdebla1 | sanxiyn: Exactly! ;-) |
| 04:00.21 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: I'm actually trying to run test as an ssh command to test for a directory's existance on the server. |
| 04:00.22 | Opiated | sanxiyn: its usually known as regular letter size. 11x8.5 |
| 04:00.32 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: It wasn't working, so I thought I'd test it locally. |
| 04:00.45 | sanxiyn | Opiated: A/B paper size system is logical and convinient. I see no reason not to use it. |
| 04:00.47 | Opiated | sanxiyn: I thought a4 was something different |
| 04:00.50 | TraceGreen | Guerin, i think it may be the problem about gpg |
| 04:00.52 | Guerin | sanxiyn: the same country which still uses ounces, pounds, miles and fahrenheit |
| 04:00.53 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: if ssh user@host test -f file; then echo ...; fi |
| 04:01.02 | Opiated | sanxiyn: a4 == same as letter as far as i know |
| 04:01.04 | Guerin | TraceGreen: i'm talking about your openoffice issue. |
| 04:01.08 | sanxiyn | Opiated: No. |
| 04:01.08 | Guerin | Opiated: it's not. |
| 04:01.10 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: yes, that's what I did, but it never works |
| 04:01.10 | Opiated | I don't know what the distinction is |
| 04:01.26 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: they are quite different in size. |
| 04:01.27 | Guerin | Opiated: they're different sizes, which have been adopted by the civilised world for *ages* |
| 04:01.31 | Opiated | i want regular 8.5' times 11' paper size, what the hell should i pick? |
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| 04:01.34 | TraceGreen | Guerin, yes, i think because of gpg fail, i don't install openoffic well. |
| 04:01.36 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: then it's not what you did, or you expect it to do something other than it actually does |
| 04:01.43 | Guerin | !htfsqk Opiated |
| 04:01.44 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: some printers even quote different page output rates between A4 & Letter |
| 04:01.53 | Guerin | TraceGreen: no. There IS NO openoffice binary |
| 04:01.59 | Guerin | !htfswk Opiated |
| 04:01.59 | dpkg | Opiated: How The Fuck Should We Know? |
| 04:02.18 | Guerin | Opiated: go use google. This is not #stupidarchaicpapersizes |
| 04:02.26 | Opiated | dudes, for the love of god, i don't care which is which or what is what, what the hell is regular 8.5"x11" paper, letter or a4 |
| 04:02.29 | TraceGreen | ok, but how can i at least start openoffic to edit some sxc? |
| 04:02.31 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: This is the part of the script that I'm talking about. It always says the dir doesn't exist, even when it does (I verified that it exists). Do you know what I'm doing wrong? |
| 04:02.32 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: Sometimes it's called "U.S. Letter |
| 04:02.34 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1487 |
| 04:02.35 | blahdebla1 | " |
| 04:02.45 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: *sigh* |
| 04:02.57 | TraceGreen | i think "openoffice try.sxc" would be ok. Guerin |
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| 04:03.04 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: Um...if I'm bothering you, I'll ask someone else...sorry. |
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| 04:03.11 | Opiated | blahdebla1: thank you, i knew i read it or heard it somewhere bieng called letter. so fine, its called us letter. let guerin bitch about semantics if it makes him feel better |
| 04:03.17 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: that's _not_ _not_ _not_ what i told you to do |
| 04:03.26 | Guerin | TraceGreen: but there's no openoffice binary. There isn't. Really. You want to use oocalc try.sxc; for that |
| 04:03.31 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: Sometimes it's called Letter as well. Depends on the app and version. |
| 04:03.32 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: you still have useless [ ] and stupid $() in there |
| 04:03.35 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: Uh...this is something I wrote 5 minutes ago, not after you told me something... |
| 04:03.50 | sanxiyn | dpkg, tell TraceGreen about 2006 key |
| 04:04.09 | sanxiyn | TraceGreen: You installed openoffice.org package already? |
| 04:04.09 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: I thought it was good form to enclose shell commands in $() |
| 04:04.10 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: which we already established to be fundamentally broken |
| 04:04.15 | TraceGreen | Guerin, yeah! |
| 04:04.15 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: don't think. learn |
| 04:04.21 | TraceGreen | sanxiyn, yeah |
| 04:04.28 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: The guides I've read suggest using $() |
| 04:04.37 | albo | hwclock says UTC, but i /etc/localtime and timezone are Mountain. i ran ntpdate |
| 04:04.38 | TraceGreen | Guerin, what command should i use if i want to open sxw? |
| 04:04.44 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: what fucked up guides are you reading? |
| 04:04.45 | Guerin | oowriter |
| 04:04.46 | blahdebla1 | caphuso: What's broken about $()? |
| 04:04.47 | Opiated | blahdebla1: thanks, i knew i wasn't crazy. letter != a4, but a4 is refferred to as U.S. letter sometimes. |
| 04:04.47 | sanxiyn | notenoughnicks: Oh please. |
| 04:04.53 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: Oh, I don't know, the Advanced Bash Scripting Guide? |
| 04:04.56 | Guerin | TraceGreen: to find out what to run, you need to either rely on the menu entries created by the packages on install, or on reading the README for the packages, or on the output of dpkg -L for each pacage |
| 04:04.56 | caphuso | blahdebla1: in this case: everything |
| 04:05.04 | Guerin | TraceGreen: read the above AGAIN |
| 04:05.04 | sanxiyn | notenoughnicks: Just do if [ -f test ] |
| 04:05.05 | Opiated | it can cause confusion, i know it confused me |
| 04:05.05 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: then you didn't read it carefully enough |
| 04:05.10 | xsdg | dpkg: tell me about 2006 key |
| 04:05.16 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: That's quite possible, but you don't have to be rude. :( |
| 04:05.21 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: A4 != U.S. Letter, Letter == U.S. Letter |
| 04:05.34 | sanxiyn | notenoughnicks: $(test -f test) will be replaced with empty string and [ ] doesn't make much sense. |
| 04:05.34 | notenoughnicks | sanxiyn: I'm trying to run it over ssh...can I do that as an ssh command? |
| 04:05.39 | Opiated | bah whatever |
| 04:05.41 | sanxiyn | notenoughnicks: Why not? |
| 04:05.48 | notenoughnicks | sanxiyn: Ok, thanks. |
| 04:05.49 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: $() is used to capture the output of whatever is in it. you need the exit code. hence $() is not what you want |
| 04:05.57 | TraceGreen | Guerin, thanks! |
| 04:05.59 | blahdebla1 | caphuso: $() has worked correctly every time i've ever used it. Or are you talking about notenoughnicks' use of it? |
| 04:06.01 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: I see; I misunderstood $(). Thanks for your help. |
| 04:06.06 | caphuso | blahdebla1: i am |
| 04:06.06 | sanxiyn | notenoughnicks: [ -f test ], or test -f test. |
| 04:06.08 | vassagus | can someone recomends me a good window manager for consoles enviroment |
| 04:06.20 | blahdebla1 | notenoughnicks: $() == `` |
| 04:06.35 | blahdebla1 | vassagus: GNU screen has a good reputation for that |
| 04:06.37 | notenoughnicks | blahdebla1: yeah, but I was confusing exit status with stdout |
| 04:06.52 | notenoughnicks | blahdebla1: at least, I think that's what I was doing wrong, haha |
| 04:06.54 | vassagus | cool blahdela1 |
| 04:06.57 | Opiated | blahdebla1: what are the paper dimensions for letter and a4. are the paper sizes different, or are they both the same size, your regular 8 1/2" x 11" paper |
| 04:07.07 | beardy | vassagus: yeah, screen is the only real alternative, and it's good. |
| 04:07.15 | blahdebla1 | notenoughnicks: stdout is a file, exit status is just a number. :-) |
| 04:07.23 | notenoughnicks | blahdebla1: right |
| 04:07.31 | sanxiyn | Opiated: A4 is 210 mm x 297 mm. |
| 04:07.42 | vassagus | thanks i was using ion, but it doesnt seems stable |
| 04:07.46 | sanxiyn | Opiated: Defined by International Standard Organization. |
| 04:07.48 | Opiated | sanxiyn: whereas...? |
| 04:07.53 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: GIYF. I don't have 'regular 8.5" x 11" paper', i have regular A4. |
| 04:07.59 | beginer | echo "1" > /var/log/test return ./test: line 2: /var/log/test No such file or directory. how must i use echo to create that file? |
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| 04:08.16 | Guerin | !fgi Opiated paper+size+standards |
| 04:08.16 | dpkg | Opiated: http://fuckinggoogleit.com/search?query=paper+size+standards |
| 04:08.21 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: Has sanxiyn suddenly turned into a metric conversion calculator? :-) |
| 04:08.46 | beardy | He must be from wedon'tusestandardsanddowhattherestoftheworldconsidersgoodland? |
| 04:08.46 | Ernie_ | Hello everyone. |
| 04:08.51 | sanxiyn | Google told me 210mm in inch is 8.26 inch. |
| 04:08.58 | albo | hwclock says UTC, but i /etc/localtime and timezone are Mountain. i ran ntpdate |
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| 04:09.01 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: Is there a reference for all those ! commands? I like !fgi :-) |
| 04:09.01 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: I guess I did that because I'm used to C-style...still getting the hang of bash. |
| 04:09.06 | albo | and of course date also UTV |
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| 04:09.12 | albo | UTC |
| 04:09.16 | blahdebla1 | Ernie_: not too many people in here have time for hellos. ;-) |
| 04:09.22 | sanxiyn | And 297mm in inch is 11.69. |
| 04:09.30 | Opiated | no im simply trying to find out, why is it, that wherever you buy regular printer paper, its 8.5x11. and apparantly, a4 and letter use that paper just fine. so there isn't really a different is there? |
| 04:09.32 | caphuso | notenoughnicks: oh, if you learned shell scripting with csh, then go bang your head against a hard wall, until you can't remember anything about shells |
| 04:09.39 | Ernie_ | thats cool....im new, just wondering if it worked.....smile |
| 04:09.48 | caphuso | it'll be less painful in the long run |
| 04:09.53 | notenoughnicks | caphuso: no, I mean JavaScript/PHP/C...I'm just learning *shell* scripting :) |
| 04:09.58 | sanxiyn | blahdebla1: No, Google is. |
| 04:10.10 | beardy | !abs-guide |
| 04:10.11 | dpkg | i guess abs-guide is the Advanced Bash-Scripting Guide to be found at http://www.tldp.org/guides.html#abs . or apt-get install abs-guide |
| 04:10.31 | notenoughnicks | beardy: hehe, thanks...I've been there |
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| 04:10.55 | blahdebla1 | Ernie_: Try #debian_ if you're new to this. The people are friendlier and the pace isn't as hectic. |
| 04:11.02 | Opiated | i use the paper size i mentioned. no matter what i pick, a4 or letter, they both work fine, print fine, etc. so what is the difference? |
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| 04:11.18 | sanxiyn | Opiated: A/B paper system has the advantage that if you devide the paper by half, half is exactly similar to the whole. |
| 04:11.29 | blahdebla1 | Opiated: can't you subtract millimeters? :-) |
| 04:11.29 | sanxiyn | Opiated: That is, ratio of width and height is square of 2. |
| 04:11.39 | Ernie_ | Ok...and thank you blahdeblal....... I will. |
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| 04:12.11 | Opiated | i don't fucking get it. same physical paper, size, works just the same with both paper types in config. why are there two if they work the same? |
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| 04:12.13 | sanxiyn | Opiated: A4 is slightly shorter in short side and slightly longer in long side than Letter. |
| 04:12.16 | Opiated | fucking redundant bullshit |
| 04:12.17 | Opiated | :/ |
| 04:12.20 | sanxiyn | Opiated: No, they have different size. |
| 04:12.25 | sanxiyn | Opiated: And Letter size is illogical. |
| 04:12.27 | Opiated | oh ok |
| 04:12.32 | Opiated | so they DO have differnt sizes |
| 04:12.36 | sanxiyn | Sure. |
| 04:12.38 | Opiated | finally, THANK YOU san |
| 04:12.41 | sanxiyn | I already converted size to inch for you. |
| 04:12.41 | Opiated | my man |
| 04:12.43 | sanxiyn | ... |
| 04:12.45 | sanxiyn | Please read. |
| 04:12.47 | blahdebla1 | Didn't sanxiyn establish that for us long ago? |
| 04:12.49 | tung | has anyone had any experience installing the Gno-sx theme for gnome? http://www.aqua-soft.org/board/showthread.php?t=5384 |
| 04:13.03 | Opiated | blahdebla1: I don't think so, other wise I would have gotten it |
| 04:13.10 | sanxiyn | Okay okay. |
| 04:13.10 | tung | im trying to figure out how to install it, any help is appreciated |
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| 04:13.23 | Opiated | or maybe I missed it in the rush of this text scrolling past my client |
| 04:13.43 | Opiated | tung: irc.gnome.org #gnome |
| 04:13.51 | Opiated | or #gnome here |
| 04:14.01 | tung | Opiated: thank you |
| 04:14.25 | Opiated | you have better chances of getting a response on gnome irc |
| 04:14.37 | Opiated | #gnome here is usually dead |
| 04:15.30 | Opiated | ooh, sweet, debian installed. bbl |
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| 04:15.44 | albo | how can i change the system time, i believe that ntp port is blocked |
| 04:15.51 | beardy | !set the time |
| 04:15.52 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 04:16.34 | Xenguy | rdate works also |
| 04:17.10 | sanxiyn | I never understood NTP. :( |
| 04:17.15 | albo | how can io:/etc# date --set 'Fri Jan 6 21:16:17 MST 2006' |
| 04:17.16 | albo | Sat Jan 7 04:16:17 UTC 2006 |
| 04:17.23 | albo | it doesnt take |
| 04:18.07 | Xenguy | albo: see if this works: /usr/sbin/rdate -s time.nrc.ca && /sbin/hwclock --systohc |
| 04:18.38 | albo | Xenguy: that made it UTC |
| 04:18.47 | Xenguy | heh |
| 04:19.04 | Xenguy | albo: I guess you need to set tzconfig first? |
| 04:19.14 | albo | its already what i want, which is MST |
| 04:19.25 | Xenguy | beats me then |
| 04:19.42 | Xenguy | albo: maybe you need to find an rdate server in your time zone |
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| 04:20.46 | shadow98 | anybody on that can help me with openvpn?????? |
| 04:20.58 | Xenguy | !punctuation |
| 04:21.14 | Xenguy | oh well |
| 04:21.19 | Matt-H | heh |
| 04:21.30 | Xenguy | I rest my case ;-) |
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| 04:22.10 | albo | how the heck can i change the date's timezone without ntpdate |
| 04:22.42 | Guerin | albo: man date |
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| 04:24.20 | albo | Guerin: i just pasted the output of date --set |
| 04:25.18 | Paivakil | albo: what is your LANG environment? |
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| 04:25.29 | albo | Paivakil: en_US |
| 04:26.04 | ayam | any 'debian way' to hardening multiuser environment ? |
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| 04:33.21 | spook][68 | anyone here who've installed plesk on his server? |
| 04:34.50 | albo | can someone save me from UTC hell |
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| 04:38.01 | quasisane | albo: UTC hell? |
| 04:38.21 | simonrvn | hwclock being FUCKED |
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| 04:38.29 | quasisane | albo: as in your system clock is in UTC and you want time displayed per your correct timezone? |
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| 04:38.43 | albo | quasisane: i want all clocks ot be MST |
| 04:39.01 | [dom] | hi everyone, I'm having a problem with a netinst... how do I tell the installer to load the module for my nic? |
| 04:39.01 | albo | quasisane: i do date --set but i login agai and nothing |
| 04:39.22 | quasisane | albo: you want to have the hwclock as MST as well? |
| 04:39.22 | Matt-H | how about all clocks being UTC? ;) |
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| 04:39.48 | albo | quasisane: i dont care, i just want the clck when i log in and on mysql to be MST |
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| 04:39.59 | Christophe971 | hello everybody |
| 04:40.03 | quasisane | albo: unless you need to dual boot with windows it customary to have the system clock as UTC and use tzconfig to set the systems timezone. |
| 04:40.03 | Christophe971 | little question |
| 04:40.06 | Christophe971 | is it normal that i've network access from i gentoo (chrooted from ubuntu breezy) ? |
| 04:40.13 | albo | quasisane: i used tzconfig |
| 04:40.16 | Christophe971 | i didn't test from another system |
| 04:40.19 | quasisane | as root? |
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| 04:40.39 | quasisane | albo: as root? |
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| 04:41.29 | Matt-H | !tell Christophe971 about based on debian |
| 04:41.33 | albo | quasisane: im almost there. |
| 04:41.50 | Christophe971 | yes yes |
| 04:41.56 | Christophe971 | i already know that :) |
| 04:42.08 | Christophe971 | but does it do you the same thing on your debian ? |
| 04:42.33 | Christophe971 | i've read somewhere that chroot is specially made to block network access |
| 04:42.41 | simonrvn | a frickig typo in the /var/lib/dpkg/info/texinfo.postinst |
| 04:42.47 | simonrvn | n |
| 04:42.48 | dselect | any 'debian way' to hardening multiuser environment ? |
| 04:42.57 | Matt-H | Christophe971: I don't use chroot on my systems - I need network access ;-) |
| 04:43.01 | simonrvn | !harden debian |
| 04:43.05 | Christophe971 | ? |
| 04:43.11 | simonrvn | Christophe971: this isn't #ubuntu. go there |
| 04:43.18 | Christophe971 | Matt-H: so network doesn't work on it |
| 04:43.27 | Christophe971 | simonrvn: i've debian too, it's okay ? |
| 04:43.30 | Matt-H | Christophe971: I've never /tried/ it |
| 04:43.34 | Christophe971 | okay |
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| 04:45.17 | [dom] | how do I tell debian's installer to load the proper module for my NIC so I can do a netinst? |
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| 04:46.11 | simonrvn | you can do it manually, or get the installer to re-do the h/w detection |
| 04:46.26 | [dom] | it's only detecting the "linux floppy" |
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| 04:47.11 | Trek00 | [dom]: it's a NIC recognised by the standard linux kernel? |
| 04:47.20 | [dom] | aye, it uses the tgp module |
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| 04:49.01 | simonrvn | i'm used to it |
| 04:49.37 | simonrvn | i was trying out postfix on one of my machines |
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| 04:53.05 | n3x | postfix ftw |
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| 04:56.24 | deadcat_ | me or bittorrent sucks? 12 seeds and i am only downloading at .5 KB/s |
| 04:56.35 | NigZ | lol |
| 04:56.40 | zinx | deadcat_: yes. |
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| 04:56.53 | deadcat_ | zinx: yes it sucks? |
| 04:56.58 | NigZ | bittorrent sucks |
| 04:57.02 | zinx | deadcat_: yes you or bittorrent sucks. |
| 04:57.02 | deadcat_ | ah |
| 04:57.17 | [dom] | just depends on how you have your router setup...it works fine for me |
| 04:57.20 | deadcat_ | i mean with 12 seeds. atleast 5kb/s then i wont complain |
| 04:57.35 | zinx | deadcat_: how many peers are there? |
| 04:57.45 | kingsley | Does anyone here happen to have an opinion on which one of the ftp server packages is the easiest and quickest to install, especially on a box running xinetd? |
| 04:57.54 | NigZ | i use irc personnaly and i think its better than bittorrent |
| 04:58.06 | [dom] | we use proftpd at work |
| 04:58.12 | zinx | NigZ: it's usually even slower than bittorrent though |
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| 04:58.20 | Guerin | no |
| 04:58.26 | zinx | NigZ: unless you mean DCC which is a horrendous protocol :) |
| 04:58.26 | NigZ | no |
| 04:58.31 | Guerin | bittorrent only sucks as much as the network you're using |
| 04:58.47 | Guerin | some bittorrent networks are <heh> peerless |
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| 04:59.25 | Guerin | kingsley: vsftpd > * |
| 04:59.31 | NigZ | yea but i want my movie in french, bittorrent is slower than irc for french files |
| 05:00.10 | simonrvn | !secure debian |
| 05:00.10 | dpkg | hmm... secure debian is http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ |
| 05:00.20 | simonrvn | that's the one |
| 05:00.22 | [dom] | you should just use usenet |
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| 05:00.37 | NigZ | i got ftps too for free |
| 05:00.46 | NigZ | topsite and dump etc |
| 05:01.04 | ce_endelz | #j malang |
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| 05:06.01 | Eleaf | oo |
| 05:06.36 | zeballin3 | Need help with autofs. Anyone here know something about it? |
| 05:07.20 | Guerin | zeballin3: /msg dpkg ask |
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| 05:08.04 | zeballin3 | Guerin: not much on the bot. If I install autofs will I automatically get auto mounting and unmounting... or is there a lot more config I have to do? |
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| 05:09.25 | noiesmo | hey all |
| 05:09.33 | zeballin3 | Guerin: read the man pages and looked at some sites but am confused. I want to get the same kind of auto-unmounting I get with ubunutu or mepis... but in Debian Sid. |
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| 05:10.41 | noiesmo | if I upgrade a system from stable to unstable whould applications that run under stable still run under unstable |
| 05:11.14 | noiesmo | the apps do not work when installed on unstable system that was never stable |
| 05:11.20 | breedx | So, my pcmcia card works fine, network configured fine, but I'd prefer that dhclient is run at boot time (instead of having to run it by hand). What's the udev way to get dhclient to run during boot, *after* pcmcia is initialized? |
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| 05:11.39 | |Slurpee| | is there a way to change your locale after it's installed ? |
| 05:11.54 | vasile | If I have emacs21-common and emacs21-el, is CUA mode already installed? Or do I have to download cua.el? |
| 05:11.57 | Guerin | zeballin3: i don't know anything about it, but as I understand, it's gnome-volume-manager, hal and udev |
| 05:13.01 | caphuso | vasile: do you have a cua.el or cua.elc file? |
| 05:13.09 | thedingus9 | how would you run a script when a user logs in and out? |
| 05:13.39 | vasile | caphuso: No, but the gnu emacs book says this mode is built in. |
| 05:13.52 | breedx | thedingus9: a likely place is by putting a reference to the script in /etc/bash.bashrc |
| 05:13.52 | zeballin3 | Guerin: thanks for the help, but I'm in kde. In mepis when you insert a data cd it shows up on your HD. Click and it opens in Kong. Close and it is unmounted so you can push button on drive door. In Debian yo have to manually unmount. PITA. |
| 05:13.57 | caphuso | vasile: the emacs book you're reading talks about emacs22 |
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| 05:14.14 | breedx | thedingus9: assuming all users use bash as their shell. :) |
| 05:14.17 | zeballin3 | Guerin: I thought maybe autofs would do this unmount for me when the file manager is closed. But not sure. |
| 05:14.29 | Guerin | zeballin3: dunno. |
| 05:14.51 | vasile | caphuso: Ah, ok. Thanks for the clarification. After I dload cua.el, where do I put it? |
| 05:14.55 | tdyce | step 2 Nvidia howto Check that you have "main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list" what the ftp site that goes with this? |
| 05:15.14 | caphuso | vasile: install the emacs-goodies package |
| 05:15.44 | thedingus9 | breedx, yes they do but will that work for remote ssh and scp connections too |
| 05:16.25 | noiesmo | tdyce, deb ftp://ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/ stable non-free contrib example |
| 05:16.28 | vasile | Will do. Thanks. emacs can be a PITA. Thankfully, there's vi mode. |
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| 05:16.43 | breedx | thedingus9: probably not...especially, I *think*, since scp isn't a login. :) |
| 05:17.00 | noiesmo | tdyce, dont add example |
| 05:17.11 | breedx | thedingus9: you just want a log of when anybody authenticates? |
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| 05:19.47 | thedingus9 | breedx: no im trying to set up a samba mount only for specific users but the mount is not always avaliable so I am going to test for the samba server before I mount |
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| 05:20.16 | ce | hi |
| 05:20.26 | bucky | ih |
| 05:20.52 | breedx | thedingus9: ah. can't keep it mounted all the time? |
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| 05:22.23 | thedingus9 | breedx: no because the remotes server is not a permenant server. if I was the only user it would be fine but I have some less savy users that need file access. |
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| 05:23.45 | doubleoh | With an old debian sarge cdrom I am trying to mount a /dev/hda1. It continues to report no such device. With the tempfs I try making the directory /test and then mount /deb/hda1 /test. I am curious what I am doing wrong. |
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| 05:24.48 | doubleoh | O wish to get back at my data without writing anything to the partition. |
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| 05:26.20 | vasile | caphuso: I would normally look to p.d.o for this info, but... updatedb; locate cua.el doesn't turn up cua.el. Do you happen to know if it's in emacs-goodies-el? If not, I can download it. I just don't know what dir to put it in. |
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| 05:30.21 | notenoughnicks | Is there a way to get the exit status of the command before the pipe, like getting the exit status of test in "test -f doesntexist | tee log"? |
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| 05:31.19 | toothpick | What gui interface can I apt-get to configure apache? |
| 05:31.27 | notenoughnicks | toothpick: webmin? |
| 05:31.36 | toothpick | thanks |
| 05:31.46 | notenoughnicks | toothpick: np, but it may not be the kind of thing you are looking for |
| 05:32.18 | Eno_ | Probably not. |
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| 05:33.42 | kspath | what kind of gui interface can I get to null route all windows boxes especially those running IIS |
| 05:33.48 | kapil | doubleoh: is your hd detected? look at the output of dmesg. perhaps its not called /dev/hda1 because of devfs and fiends. |
| 05:34.17 | |Slurpee| | here is my error |
| 05:34.17 | |Slurpee| | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:34.20 | doubleoh | Kapil: Good thought I will check. Hope it has dmesg |
| 05:34.26 | |Slurpee| | man: can't set the locale; make sure $LC_* and $LANG are correct |
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| 05:34.55 | doubleoh | Kapil: The hard drive was hosed after a fsck |
| 05:35.12 | doubleoh | I am hoping to recover whatever I can |
| 05:35.20 | Guerin | kspath: why would you? |
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| 05:35.29 | kapil | |Slurpee|: do as it says. set up LC_CTYPE and LANG to be C |
| 05:35.39 | Guerin | kspath: the irony of using a gui to null-route windows is hilarious |
| 05:35.48 | kspath | Guerin: that was the point |
| 05:35.57 | Guerin | oh |
| 05:36.03 | Guerin | and here I thought you were being serious |
| 05:36.08 | Guerin | !lose me |
| 05:36.08 | dpkg | guerin: You Lose. |
| 05:36.14 | kspath | sad isnt |
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| 05:36.48 | kspath | you have gotten so used to bizarre silly questions that a sarcastic attempt at humour is thought to be serious |
| 05:37.07 | kspath | I guess it is FAR better than bitterness though |
| 05:37.16 | kspath | bitterness is a null route |
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| 05:37.46 | Guerin | kspath: i'm not bitter, I'm complex. |
| 05:38.08 | kspath | exactly, but I am complex and a little bitter |
| 05:38.20 | Guerin | like beer! |
| 05:38.25 | kspath | lol |
| 05:38.29 | kspath | !bier |
| 05:38.29 | dpkg | somebody said bier was Bavarian Grundnahrungsmittel |
| 05:38.30 | Guerin | see, everything comes back to beer. |
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| 05:39.19 | doubleoh | kspath: The sarge netinstall disk did not detect my hard drives. (Used expert26 at boot). Now I can still boot my systems but libncurses is missing. |
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| 05:39.25 | kspath | sometimes after drinking 10-15 caffienated beverages 1-2 biers really helps |
| 05:39.52 | kspath | doubleoh: that system is useless |
| 05:39.55 | kspath | lol |
| 05:40.44 | doubleoh | kapil: see comment above for kspath. dmesg did not report. |
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| 05:41.32 | kapil | doubleoh: then you are really in trouble. what kind of disk is it? |
| 05:41.40 | kspath | doubleoh: sorry, I am not a debian guru as I should be someone here might be able to help plus I am off to Dream of Sheep |
| 05:42.10 | |Slurpee| | kapil |
| 05:42.12 | |Slurpee| | still there ? |
| 05:42.17 | Azar | hello honorables new nvidia drivers just in NVIDIA 1.0-8178 Display Drivers |
| 05:42.18 | |Slurpee| | i didnt see your response till now |
| 05:42.19 | doubleoh | hah, well I got to get it some way. If it can complain about not find libncurses there has got to be away. Enjoy! |
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| 05:42.36 | |Slurpee| | azar, you have the nvidia drivers ? |
| 05:42.40 | Azar | http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=353&num=1 |
| 05:42.43 | kapil | |Slurpee|: sometimes. |
| 05:42.45 | doubleoh | kapil: It is just a EIDE |
| 05:43.00 | Azar | I would guess they'd go with etch or sid |
| 05:43.03 | toothpick | notenoughnicks: not exactly what I'm looking for, just wanted I guess a front end like I used to have for Savant when I was on windows. |
| 05:43.04 | doubleoh | Usualy /dev/hda1 |
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| 05:43.17 | kapil | doubleoh: then it is mysterious why the netinst CD did not find the disk. |
| 05:43.18 | toothpick | I'll just have to read a few manuals. |
| 05:43.31 | doubleoh | Yah, no kidding. |
| 05:43.34 | |Slurpee| | kapil, i just did a fresh install. do you think my install didnt download all of my locale files correctly ? |
| 05:43.37 | Azar | and the latest 2.6.15 kernel comes with IPv6 support too |
| 05:43.39 | doubleoh | I am out of ideas on this |
| 05:43.43 | blahdebla1 | Anyone out there using firefox 1.5 or OOo 2.0 under sarge? |
| 05:43.59 | Azar | blahdebla1: no such thing |
| 05:44.00 | kapil | doubleoh: does 'dmesg | grep -i ide' give anything? |
| 05:44.01 | Guerin | !anyone use firefox 1.5 or OOo 2.0 under sarge? |
| 05:44.01 | dpkg | No, no one uses firefox 1.5 or OOo 2.0 under sarge, not even the people who use it. |
| 05:44.21 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: very funny. |
| 05:44.32 | blahdebla1 | Azar: what do you mean no such thing? |
| 05:44.40 | sifi-x | which is the graphic library in debian? |
| 05:44.52 | Azar | blahdebla1: Id assume someone could force it with Sarge but it won't last long.. |
| 05:44.55 | Guerin | blahdebla1: ask the question you really want answered. |
| 05:45.05 | notenoughnicks | toothpick: Apache's a little complex for a simple GUI :) |
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| 05:45.08 | kapil | |Slurpee|: you probably configured a locale during installation but did not install the corresponding locale files. |
| 05:45.21 | Guerin | Azar: there might be backports; the mozilla.org static binary of firefox might work. |
| 05:45.39 | toothpick | gotcha, I'm trying to test out a School Administration Tool, and their docs have little errors in them which have made the process very frustrating. |
| 05:45.41 | |Slurpee| | kapil, is there an apt command to download the correct ones ??? |
| 05:45.42 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: I'd like to know what people's general experiences are with adding these apps (and the requisite upgrades from etch) on top of sarge. |
| 05:45.52 | Azar | Guerin, indeed but last I remembered when I tried to forced, it worked for a while then it stopped responding.. |
| 05:45.53 | kapil | |Slurpee|: it is probably a good idea to keep "root"'s locale to be C anyway even if it tends to be en_US centric. |
| 05:45.54 | doubleoh | kapil: Nah. I am going to try expert (2.4 version) instead of expert26. |
| 05:46.07 | sifi-x | anyone, windows uses DirectX, what is Debian using? |
| 05:46.12 | kapil | |Slurpee|: apt-get install locales |
| 05:46.18 | Azar | blahdebla1: when the dependency link is broken the application dies |
| 05:46.21 | toothpick | For example a missing ; on a command to set up a database cost me an hour...but I'll email them the error, and hopefully that will save someone time. |
| 05:46.25 | Guerin | blahdebla1: i can tell you: breakage, and lots of it, which is typically unfixable withough upgrading wholesale to etch. |
| 05:46.36 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: I've upgraded a few of my packages to etch versions (e.g. libc) without any dramas, but the list attached to firefox is rather large, and i'm not sure of the ramifications. |
| 05:46.42 | Guerin | blahdebla1: haha |
| 05:46.44 | kapil | |Slurpee|: and probably apt-get install util-linux-locales too. |
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| 05:46.59 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: state the answer you really mean. :-) |
| 05:47.09 | Guerin | blahdebla1: your machine is a ticking time bomb; and you're also not running sarge any more, you're running a materially etch system. |
| 05:47.12 | Guerin | blahdebla1: oh, i mean it. |
| 05:47.24 | Azar | blahdebla1: I am just a newbie I could not explain exactly why firefox would die, I just assume it can't survive under sarge |
| 05:47.25 | |Slurpee| | says locales are already installed |
| 05:47.39 | doubleoh | kapil: No results using kernel sarge 2.4 dmesg | grep -i ide |
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| 05:47.45 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: I was referring to what you meant by "haha" |
| 05:47.50 | |Slurpee| | kapilafter it installed it gave me the same missing files errors |
| 05:47.52 | Guerin | blahdebla1: oh, i meant that too. |
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| 05:48.09 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: your perspicuity is diminishing rapidly |
| 05:48.29 | Guerin | blahdebla1: eschew obfuscation; enunciate with clarity |
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| 05:48.50 | kapil | |Slurpee|: try the earlier "solution" i proposed. which is to set up LC_CTYPE and LANG to be C. as in export LC_CTYPE=C LANG=C |
| 05:49.13 | Azar | from that nvidia news link above: "Fixed installation problems on newer Debian systems." << nice :) |
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| 05:50.05 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: i wouldn't call http://pastebin.com/494523 "materially etch" |
| 05:50.31 | sifi-x | Guerin, what is the name of the graphic library that debian is using, windows is using DirectX but I'm cluless |
| 05:50.36 | |Slurpee| | kapil, reinstalling with a new apt source can easily fix this ? |
| 05:50.38 | kapil | doubleoh: perhaps there is some other problem (hardware?) with the disks. if you put your ear to the box can you hear the disk? |
| 05:50.43 | Guerin | blahdebla1: if you're running etch's libc6, you're materially running etch. |
| 05:50.52 | Guerin | sifi-x: eh? |
| 05:51.08 | Guerin | sifi-x: there is no analogue to directx in free software |
| 05:51.13 | kapil | |Slurpee|: not necessarily. many programs do not support all possible locales. |
| 05:51.33 | Eno_ | wine? cedega (though not free...)? |
| 05:51.35 | sifi-x | Guerin, so debian is not using any type of graphical library? |
| 05:51.40 | |Slurpee| | the problem is that the files for en are missing |
| 05:51.47 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: Well i'm already doing that very successfully. It only required about 3 packages to be upgraded. |
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| 05:51.49 | |Slurpee| | en is what i need |
| 05:51.55 | Guerin | sifi-x: sure, it uses lots of graphical libraries. |
| 05:52.09 | Guerin | blahdebla1: good luck with that. It's going to get much hairier. |
| 05:52.13 | blahdebla1 | sifi-x: Asking what is the graphical library is like asking what is the filesystem. |
| 05:52.16 | sifi-x | Guerin, OpenGL is standard |
| 05:52.17 | Azar | speaking of wine, news say that the latest mswindows flaw are attacking really bad linux through wine |
| 05:52.18 | doubleoh | kapil: The disk is fine. I think fsck just messed up me up good. If I venture through the basic install it detects all the partitions. I just worry about writing the partition. I just want to mount the thing. |
| 05:52.18 | kapil | |Slurpee|: perhaps you installed localepurge and did not configure it to keep the en locales. |
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| 05:52.35 | Eno_ | Guerin: Coulden't you say that SDL is analogue to Direct X? |
| 05:52.42 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: It hasn't been hairy much at all. |
| 05:52.42 | sifi-x | blahdebla1, ok, whats defalt |
| 05:52.50 | bucky | |Slurpee|, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 05:53.03 | |Slurpee| | the problem isn't that a program isn't exporting en_US locale, the problem is that en_US *DOESNT* *EXIST* ON THE SYSTEM |
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| 05:53.47 | kapil | doubleoh: if the basic install detects the partitions then i dont understand the problem exactly. just stop that install (keep it waiting at one of its prompts) and switch to tty2 using alt-f2. |
| 05:53.50 | |Slurpee| | setting the locale to C stops the error messages, but that doesnt make it right |
| 05:54.00 | Guerin | blahdebla1: in the immprtal words of Yoda: "You will be." |
| 05:54.06 | Guerin | and immortal, too |
| 05:54.16 | Guerin | !bobbitt |
| 05:54.16 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
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| 05:54.42 | nvz | heh |
| 05:54.47 | skon | haha |
| 05:54.54 | kapil | |Slurpee|: see my message above? check if localepurge is installed and see what its configuration is. |
| 05:54.56 | doubleoh | kapil: I am in tty2. I tried mount at the point it told me what partitions I have |
| 05:55.27 | kapil | doubleoh: cat /proc/partitions should tell you what partitions you have. |
| 05:56.04 | doubleoh | kapil: Great. I am getting somewhere now. I see my three partitions and disc. |
| 05:56.12 | doubleoh | It is hdc |
| 05:56.14 | doubleoh | ! |
| 05:56.19 | Guerin | after mixing stable with other stuff, you don't even get to reinvent yourself as a porn star like Mr Bobbitt did. No payoff at all. |
| 05:56.26 | breedx | anybody know why my system is going to single user first (prompting "Give root password for maintenance") after a "shutdown -r now" issued as root? None of my other systems do this junk.. |
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| 05:56.49 | kapil | doubleoh: you have some wierd wiring on your system if hdc is your first disk! |
| 05:57.46 | Azar | blahdebla1: did you happened to read about Firefox 1.5 not yet ready for Prime Time? |
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| 05:57.59 | doubleoh | kapil: hdc will not mount either. hda always worked on my system and keep in mind it boots off this. I think the sarge disk changes this. |
| 05:58.28 | Eno_ | Azar: says who? |
| 05:58.32 | doubleoh | kapil: I bet that is the cdrom (hdc) |
| 05:58.48 | nvz | would using compressiong on putty make it any faster? there is like lag when I type |
| 05:58.54 | Azar | Eno_ http://internetweek.cmp.com/174907404 |
| 05:59.18 | zh_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:59.45 | Azar | fortunately, Debian, "unlike other distros" when says "stable" means stable , all rest is etch or sid |
| 05:59.48 | kapil | doubleoh: the names would probably have been screwed up by devfs. |
| 06:00.03 | breedx | sheesh, and what kind of magic does it take to get dhclient to run at startup (after pmcia stuff). |
| 06:00.23 | kapil | doubleoh: what names does /proc/partitions show? |
| 06:00.30 | doubleoh | kapil: Nah. Good news. I mounted it this way with proc you helped me with. I mounted it this way and I now see my files. mount /dev/ide/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 /test. |
| 06:00.49 | Eno_ | Azar: Ah.. Well I'm still running 1.0.4 sarge... |
| 06:01.08 | kapil | doubleoh: those *are* devfs style names! descriptive, but horrible to type. |
| 06:01.28 | Azar | me too |
| 06:01.29 | doubleoh | kapil: I don't care when I need to recover something. |
| 06:01.48 | bucky | breedx, auto wlan0 iface wlan0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 06:02.01 | kapil | doubleoh: good for you. |
| 06:02.34 | doubleoh | kapil: Yah, fsck really screwed up my system. |
| 06:02.46 | doubleoh | kapil: I can see some of the stuff. |
| 06:03.03 | breedx | bucky: it's for eth0 (pcmcia card, not wireless) |
| 06:03.27 | bucky | breedx, auto eth0 iface eth0 inet dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
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| 06:03.31 | kapil | doubleoh: hope you have luck recovering important data. |
| 06:03.51 | breedx | bucky: assuming a newline in there, yeah, that doesn't work. :) |
| 06:03.57 | breedx | tried that a few days ago. |
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| 06:04.18 | breedx | bucky: the problem is that the network stuff happens before the pcmcia stuff (IIRC) |
| 06:04.45 | bucky | breedx, http://www.us.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html#s-net-high |
| 06:04.47 | kapil | breedx: use ifplugd. or waproamd. |
| 06:04.49 | doubleoh | kapil: Thanks for assisting me. |
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| 06:05.03 | breedx | kapil: does ifplugd run all the time? |
| 06:05.05 | kapil | doubleoh: you're welcome. |
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| 06:05.57 | kapil | breedx: yes. its for laptops. it waits for a signal on the interfaces it listens to and then ups those interfaces. (dont put auto in /etc/network/interfaces for those interfaces). |
| 06:06.39 | breedx | kapil: well, I certainly don't need/want a daemon running for something that happens 1 time at boot on a wired device (even if it *is* pcmcia....my usage is weird, trust me) |
| 06:07.12 | breedx | bucky: is that page old? hotplug? I'm on unstable btw, which I think went to udev quite a while back |
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| 06:07.30 | kapil | breedx: waproamd is similar but for wireless. it also handles the authentication stuff. |
| 06:07.36 | bucky | oh... unstable? nevermind |
| 06:07.40 | breedx | hahaahaa |
| 06:08.05 | kapil | breedx: you can also ask ifplugd to handle hotplug interfaces. |
| 06:08.54 | breedx | kapil: cool...but again, not running hotplug because it's phased out in favor of udev |
| 06:09.05 | kapil | breedx: udev now handles hotplug. |
| 06:09.27 | breedx | kapil: right. so you mean it can handle udev hotplug interfaces....? cool. |
| 06:09.48 | kapil | breedx: for example cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug and you'll see udev staring at you. |
| 06:10.24 | breedx | kapil: awesome, let's phase something out and keep the naming around. :) seriously, though, thanks.... |
| 06:10.26 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.28 | breedx | kapil: that's good info |
| 06:11.00 | kapil | breedx: if you want to avoid ifplugd then put your own script in /etc/hotplug.d/net/. |
| 06:11.34 | breedx | kapil: so udev will also poke into /etc/hotplug.d? that's great if so.....had no idea. |
| 06:12.12 | Azar | its been 3 years learning at linux Debian and still I am not able to grasp the > >> and | utitities |
| 06:12.23 | bleaked | so what is the recommended package for getting a 2.6 debian kernel for a PIII? |
| 06:12.25 | Azar | I mean ok redirection but what's the use/ |
| 06:12.34 | kapil | breedx: that is my belief. I may be wrong :( |
| 06:12.36 | breedx | kapil: what about the whole /etc/udev "facility"? |
| 06:13.17 | Azar | so grep is what , like a search engine for a given word/term? |
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| 06:13.50 | kapil | breedx: since udev "Replaces" hotplug it should handle all the configuration that hotplug clients put in in /etc/hotplug.d. |
| 06:13.52 | bleaked | Azar. man grep |
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| 06:14.04 | blahdebla1 | Azar: grep is (usually) a simple keyword search on a file |
| 06:14.09 | Azar | bleaked, I used man and google, |
| 06:14.12 | bleaked | Azar. essentially yes, it will search a file or output |
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| 06:14.17 | hejux | hey ! i am using ubuntu , how to adjust the fonts of QT programme ? |
| 06:14.25 | Azar | thanks.. |
| 06:14.31 | kapil | breedx: actually udev "Provides" hotplug. |
| 06:14.37 | bleaked | hejux. #ubuntu |
| 06:14.49 | hejux | sorry wrong place ! sorry! |
| 06:14.58 | bleaked | no prob |
| 06:15.04 | breedx | kapil: cool, but at least on this box (recent install immediately upgraded to unstable) I never installed hotplug packages, never got /etc/hotplug.d, but have /etc/hotplug, so I should probably start there.... |
| 06:15.16 | Azar | I assume these tools are more used by programmers |
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| 06:16.03 | bleaked | Azar. they're most useful to *nix users. |
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| 06:16.23 | kapil | breedx: all I can tell you is that ifplugd put a scripts in /etc/hotplug.d/net/ and it is being run on my "udev"-ified system. |
| 06:16.24 | Azar | bleaked I am 75% moved to Debian |
| 06:16.50 | breedx | kapil: that's a great start for me....thanks. |
| 06:16.59 | bleaked | nice |
| 06:17.13 | breedx | kapil: seriously tho, finding info on udev startup stuff is really nontrivial |
| 06:19.02 | Ludwig | Hi everyone. I have this weird mouse issue, it's a Genius PS/2 NetMouse. I installed sarge r0a in my friend's pc, and neither X nor gpm will recognise it. Both the mousedev and psmouse modules are loaded, and I selected the netmouse protocol. The funny thing is that in XP it works fine |
| 06:19.23 | Ludwig | The pointer is just frozen in the middle of the screen |
| 06:19.44 | Ludwig | I did cat /dev/psaux and moved the mouse around, but nothing was dumped on the screen |
| 06:19.47 | Azar | try psaux and / or PS2 when you reconfigure xfree86 |
| 06:20.23 | Azar | Ludwig, also if you use an USB mouse try attaching a PS/2 convertor to it |
| 06:21.07 | Ludwig | I tried the PS/2 protocol too, and it doesn't work. |
| 06:21.09 | kapil | breedx: looking through the udev documentation (read README.Debian.gz) in /etc/udev/rules.d is z70hotplugd_rules which says it will run "legacy" scripts in /etc/hotplug.d/ and /etc/dev.d |
| 06:21.31 | Azar | Ludwig state your distro, its version and kernel version |
| 06:21.54 | Ludwig | sarge r03 kernel 2.6.8-2-686 |
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| 06:22.06 | Ludwig | sorry, release r0a |
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| 06:23.04 | Ludwig | the strangest thing is that I plugged another ps2 mouse he has laying around and the same thing happened: frozen cursor in the middle of the screen, but on XP it works fine |
| 06:23.10 | Azar | Ludwig try running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and "there" tweak your settings for the mouse |
| 06:23.18 | Ludwig | I did |
| 06:24.02 | Azar | Ludwig, you might need to try other type of configuration, try again and again until you get it |
| 06:24.10 | breedx | kapil: good info, I will certainly give it a shot! |
| 06:24.17 | Azar | that's what happened to me last time I did |
| 06:24.22 | bleaked | Ludwig. you may be using the wrong driver. |
| 06:24.34 | Gumby | does anyone here know if I can change an ext2 file system to ext3 without losing its data, and if so how? |
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| 06:25.43 | Azar | modconf too for Ludwig maybe, bleaked ? maybe he did not assign mouse for input devices? |
| 06:25.44 | Ludwig | It's a Genius PS/2 NetMouse, so it should be netmouse... nevertheless, I tried ps2, imps2, netscrollps2... |
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| 06:26.24 | bleaked | Ludwig. netmouse is a brand name..not the name of the driver you should use. |
| 06:26.31 | Ludwig | both the mousedev and psmouse kernel modules are loaded |
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| 06:26.53 | breedx | still wish I knew why I had to issue a root pw to reboot, *even as root* |
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| 06:27.07 | psychonate | Gumby, google shows this: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/ext2toext3.htm |
| 06:27.22 | Ludwig | I tried almost every driver |
| 06:27.23 | Azar | Ludwig, generally speaking all mice go generic: PS2 what I noticed when you get to 3button options I sometimes flunk there |
| 06:27.40 | breedx | Gumby: oh totally....ext2 -> ext3 is the way to be. it'll be fine. |
| 06:27.54 | Gumby | thx guys |
| 06:28.08 | Azar | try tweaking "yes" and "no" at 3 button mouse options.. I never got it right there for the first time |
| 06:28.43 | bleaked | Ludwig. xfree86 or xorg? |
| 06:28.49 | Ludwig | xfree86 |
| 06:28.54 | Ludwig | it's sarge |
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| 06:29.57 | bleaked | Ludwig. and you say you've ran 'dpkg-reconfigure xfree86'? If so, did you read the prompts carefully? Also, after you run it, are you restarting X if you happen to be in it? |
| 06:30.08 | nukeu666 | how can i telnet through a socks proxy? |
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| 06:31.18 | Ludwig | yes, I've ran dpkg reconfigure xserver-xfree86, selected a number of diferent mouse drivers an 3 button emulation options, and ran /etc/init.d/gdm restart after each dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 06:32.15 | Ludwig | what strikes me as unusual is that if I do a cat /dev/psaux and move the mouse, I get no dumping on the screen |
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| 06:33.00 | Ludwig | I usually get trash characters and speakers bips when I do that on MY pc |
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| 06:34.41 | bleaked | odd |
| 06:35.03 | Gnea | Ludwig: what about cat /dev/input/mice |
| 06:35.03 | Ludwig | yes, indeed |
| 06:35.07 | Azar | maybe something is wrong at the connector |
| 06:35.43 | bleaked | Ludwig. have you removed the mouse, then plugged it back in? A lot of mobos need a reboot if you do that w/ ps/2 in order to detect them. |
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| 06:36.16 | Ludwig | yes, I tried with two different mice |
| 06:36.37 | bleaked | but with a reboot in between each plugging? |
| 06:36.39 | Ludwig | and rebooted a number of times |
| 06:36.42 | Ludwig | yes |
| 06:36.47 | bleaked | hrm. |
| 06:37.11 | Azar | I ment the connector from the PC not the mouse connector |
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| 06:37.24 | marcster | hi. i just updated my kernel and now im using 2.6.12. where can i find kernel-sources and kernel-tree for this so i can reinstall nvidia driver? |
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| 06:37.58 | Azar | Ludwig, when you reboot can you watch what hardware is loaded and which hardware drivers gives you errors? |
| 06:38.26 | Gnea | marcster: kernel-source-2.6.12 |
| 06:38.45 | Gnea | oops |
| 06:38.46 | marcster | im not sure but apt-get is not getting any 2.6.12 |
| 06:38.51 | Gnea | marcster: linux-source-2.6.12 |
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| 06:39.11 | blahdebla1 | marcster: Why not use kernel-image and nvidia-kernel-source? |
| 06:39.23 | Ludwig | some acpi driver did, but I've uninstalled the module for it and now I don't get any errors when rebooting |
| 06:39.27 | tunguru | how do i check which window manager im using? |
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| 06:39.41 | bleaked | Ludwig. you can scan your /var/log/messages file for indications that the mouse was detected on boot |
| 06:39.44 | marcster | blahdeblal: im not suer how |
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| 06:40.43 | |Slurpee| | kapil, u around ? |
| 06:40.54 | streuner | tungruru: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 06:41.31 | Ludwig | yes, you are right... I should try that... nevertheless, having udev, if the mouse wasn't detected, would it even create the psaux device? just wondering |
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| 06:42.19 | Gnea | !helixsmite streuner |
| 06:42.43 | blahdebla1 | dpkg: tell marcster about nvidia-kernel-source |
| 06:42.51 | tunguru | ii libc6 2.3.5-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 06:42.51 | tunguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.06 | blahdebla1 | That didn't work. |
| 06:43.15 | tunguru | streuner: ii libc6 2.3.5-7 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 06:43.15 | tunguru | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:43.19 | streuner | tunguru: /msg dpkg sid faq |
| 06:43.23 | blahdebla1 | Guerin: what's the dpkg thingy to get nvidia instructions? |
| 06:43.29 | marcster | i did apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source |
| 06:44.06 | Azar | Ludwig maybe this may help: http://www.sccs.swarthmore.edu/users/03/nori/maenad/geek/di8k-debian/node20.html |
| 06:44.08 | marcster | but i dont know what to do next after that |
| 06:44.11 | Gnea | !nvidia one-liner |
| 06:44.11 | dpkg | hmm... nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
| 06:44.22 | Ludwig | the downside is that this pc has this mighty ugly eligroup motherboard, wich has, of course, an even uglier onboard winmodem, so any ideas that I get here, I have to reboot to try |
| 06:44.25 | breedx | dpkg: tell me how it really ought to be |
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| 06:45.06 | fiorix | hehe |
| 06:45.10 | Ludwig | I'm checking that url |
| 06:45.13 | blahdebla1 | marcster: Here's the script i use to get nvidia-kernel updated: http://pastebin.com/494561 |
| 06:45.24 | fiorix | breedx: dpkg isnt so smart |
| 06:45.34 | blahdebla1 | Gnea: can you just ! and add keywords, or do you have to know magic strings? |
| 06:45.37 | Azar | that page is old do not configure manually go with dpkg-reconfigure ..... |
| 06:45.42 | breedx | fiorix: well, I had high hopes. ;) |
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| 06:46.21 | Gnea | blahdebla1: you have to know them. it's a security feature. |
| 06:46.33 | blahdebla1 | This looks good: |
| 06:46.35 | blahdebla1 | !nvidia |
| 06:46.35 | dpkg | from memory, nvidia is DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer! Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-howto" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists, or the nvidia-kernel-source package |
| 06:46.52 | Ludwig | no, I know... |
| 06:46.55 | Guerin | !nvidiasmite blahdebla1 |
| 06:47.00 | nukeu666 | name a client that can telnet thorugh socks proxy? |
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| 06:47.23 | fiorix | Gnea: talking about security... are you a debian developer? i would like to add a software on debian's repository |
| 06:47.23 | blahdebla1 | dpkg is vindictive as well as not so smart! ;-) |
| 06:47.26 | marcster | alright thanks for the script |
| 06:48.01 | Gnea | fiorix: no |
| 06:48.04 | Ludwig | I considering trying a BIOS update... although, seems far-fetched |
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| 06:49.15 | Azar | not a bad idea to look at BIOS settings.. |
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| 06:50.05 | Ludwig | I've gone through them also, but none refer to the PS/2 ports |
| 06:50.09 | ludi | when I login I get this error: Your $HOME/.dmrc file has incorrect permissions and is being ignored. This prevents the default session and language from being saved. File sould be owned by user and have 644 permissions. |
| 06:50.26 | sifi-x | where can I find useful debian scripts? |
| 06:50.39 | Paivakil | ludi: chmod 644 .dmrc -v |
| 06:51.33 | Gnea | !google useful debian scripts |
| 06:51.38 | dpkg | Google says useful debian scripts is at http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/debian/chapter/book/ch13_03.html or http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/phpgroupware-cvs/2002-06/msg00281.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-powerpc/2002/08/msg00354.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-mentors/2004/02/msg00198.html or http://lists.debian.org/debian-lint-maint/2004/03/msg00119.html |
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| 06:52.45 | dansushi | sifi-x: sorry to follow you, but how do i use a server-side login? |
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| 06:53.09 | kino | when are the debian packages updated? |
| 06:53.28 | Paivakil | kino: depends |
| 06:53.46 | Paivakil | kino: which repository are you talking of? sarge? etch? sid? |
| 06:53.47 | Gnea | kino: all the time |
| 06:53.53 | kino | sarge |
| 06:53.58 | Gnea | sometimes |
| 06:54.01 | sifi-x | danieldg, through PHP, JSP, ColdFusion, ASP or ASP.NET |
| 06:54.14 | sifi-x | danieldg, JSP and PHP is OK |
| 06:54.23 | Azar | kino, depends of what you got so far, for example I rarely get updates since I have mostly basic packages so I can't get updates for what I "do not have" |
| 06:55.21 | kino | and if a package isn't in the repository I'm screwed? have to compile by hand? |
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| 06:55.29 | Paivakil | kino: sarge is stable - except for security bugs, they are not touched - and that is a feature; not a bug |
| 06:55.37 | kino | well that sucks |
| 06:55.51 | Azar | kino, no whatever you have gets updates if there are any updates for what you got there. |
| 06:55.55 | kino | I thought apt-get was great now I see it doesn't move |
| 06:55.57 | Paivakil | kino: depends on which package you are looking for |
| 06:56.15 | kino | do they let users submit / manage packages |
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| 06:56.31 | Paivakil | kino: if the package is dfsg free, debian can include - use the debian bug tracking system for that |
| 06:56.32 | breedx | kino: you could always come to the dark side [unstable] |
| 06:56.37 | Azar | kino a stable Debian is also "frozen" there are no higher kernels added but only the ones that were assigned at the beginning. |
| 06:56.40 | breedx | kino: it's really not that unstable |
| 06:57.01 | breedx | kino: plenty of regular updates in unstable. :) |
| 06:57.08 | Paivakil | kino: you can also try marillat |
| 06:57.12 | Paivakil | !marillat |
| 06:57.12 | dpkg | methinks marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 06:57.23 | Azar | only not security updates in unstable |
| 06:57.24 | marcster | blahdeblal: are you on ubuntu? |
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| 06:57.38 | cheal | breedx: or you could always suggest using testing like a sane person would do |
| 06:58.02 | RelDrgn | awesome. fsck is horribly broken on sid, it's refusing to fsck when max_mount_count has been reached ("check after next mount") ... oh, and all my filesystems also now have the needs_recovery bit set, but fsck insists they are clean and won't clear the bit even after a fsck -f |
| 06:58.15 | sifi-x | Gnea, how do I msg myself "!google useful debian scripts" |
| 06:58.17 | blahdebla1 | marcster: (That's a 1, not an l) No i'm using Debian mostly-sarge |
| 06:58.35 | Gnea | sifi-x: /msg dpkg whateverwithoutexplanation |
| 06:58.38 | breedx | cheal: yeah, good call. |
| 06:58.51 | dselect | any 'debian way' to hardening multiuser environment ? |
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| 06:59.32 | Azar | dselect I am using proshield |
| 07:00.58 | sifi-x | Gnea, thx |
| 07:01.14 | dselect | Azar proshield ? |
| 07:01.36 | Azar | dselect: http://proshield.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:01.38 | Ludwig | ok, I'm leaving to try a few things now... thanks guys, for all your input |
| 07:01.43 | sifi-x | danieldg, the thing about htpasswd is that you can't logout in webbrowsers. Even if you flush the webbrowser the login will persist. |
| 07:02.26 | dselect | Azar: thanks, it is tight enough for multiuser with shell access ? |
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| 07:03.11 | Azar | dselect, for me, single user is ok, one good thing: does not allow root login via ssh, does backups and does not allow root to use X |
| 07:03.17 | Azar | maybe more that I am not aware of |
| 07:03.30 | sifi-x | Gnea, do you know any more trix that I could play with dpkg? |
| 07:03.50 | Gnea | sifi-x: yeah |
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| 07:04.17 | Azar | dselect, it is interactive so you can ok it what to do or not |
| 07:04.22 | dselect | i need a solutions to restricted user shell access |
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| 07:04.39 | sifi-x | Gnea, tell me about it or send me some URL:s for it pls =) |
| 07:04.45 | dselect | so the user can only execute permitted command/apps |
| 07:05.01 | Azar | dselect then fix permissions, assign groups |
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| 07:05.38 | dselect | disable compiler, mount /home to nonexec+nosuid |
| 07:06.03 | dselect | also the /tmp |
| 07:06.28 | Azar | dselect you can create groups with certain permissions and assign users to certain groups |
| 07:07.08 | dselect | yup, how about limiting 'ps' output to only show user process ? |
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| 07:07.28 | Azar | that too |
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| 07:15.26 | Elive_user | Hello all, I have bonding module build in, but I would like to pass a parameter to the module, how would I do it? |
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| 07:16.05 | beardy | Elive_user: It can either be a module or built in, which is it? |
| 07:16.55 | Elive_user | it is built in, but I would like to pass a parameter to it so is there a way ? |
| 07:17.38 | omi2 | beardy, currently I have bonding mode set to 0, but I would like to change it to 4 |
| 07:17.45 | omi2 | (I've setup trunking on my switch) |
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| 07:20.23 | beardy | omi2: oh, you renamed.. If it's in the kernel, and can accept parameters, append it to the kernel at boot, edit your bootloaderconfiguration. |
| 07:22.04 | omi2 | the way that you pass parameters to bonding is something like this modprobe bonding mode=1 miimon=100 downdelay=200 updelay=200 |
| 07:22.10 | omi2 | but it happens with modprobe |
| 07:22.11 | beardy | omi2: elive is not Debian though, you'd be better off asking in it's channel instead, #elive perhaps. |
| 07:22.26 | beardy | omi2: Then it's not built in, then it's a module. |
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| 07:22.53 | omi2 | beardy, I'm saying that is the typical way to load up bonding module, but I don't want to have module loader |
| 07:23.12 | omi2 | so you're saying that I should pass those options to grub? |
| 07:23.19 | beardy | If it is a module, it is a module, you load a module the way you load a module. |
| 07:23.42 | omi2 | 1. normally it is used as a module , as parameters are passed after modprobe command |
| 07:23.54 | omi2 | 2. I do not want to have modules, so I have everything built in |
| 07:24.04 | beardy | omi2: And you have compiled your own kernel then? |
| 07:24.07 | omi2 | 3. I cannot figure out how to pass parameters without on the fly |
| 07:24.12 | omi2 | yes |
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| 07:25.43 | caphuso | lesson of the day: modules are you friends |
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| 07:26.08 | beardy | omi2: Yes, in that case, edit grubs config, there should already be some examples in it how to give the kernel parameters. If not, check grubs documentation. Also, check in linux sourcedir, under Documentation, about that specific module, if it demands parameters in some special way. |
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| 07:26.59 | beardy | s/specific module/specific hardware support (or thing)/ |
| 07:27.21 | caphuso | huh? |
| 07:27.24 | Azar | curiously enough this is the first time I see tcp6 running on my box. is Sarge kernels already implementing IPv6? |
| 07:27.29 | beardy | heh, never seen that before.. |
| 07:27.32 | caphuso | test |
| 07:27.34 | caphuso | s/test/foo/ |
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| 07:27.42 | caphuso | now that's one stupid feature |
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| 07:28.40 | beardy | heh, yeah, quite interesting though, I wonder if it's showed itself before? |
| 07:28.53 | caphuso | i've never seen it |
| 07:29.06 | streuner | caphuso: we had only a few questions about 's/blah/foo' in the past... |
| 07:29.07 | beardy | I haven't either |
| 07:29.32 | caphuso | streuner: i've seen thousands of s/blah/foo/ in the last couple of years in here |
| 07:29.48 | streuner | and nobody even asked what this is |
| 07:31.06 | I4NI | Ill humor you... what is s/blah/foo? |
| 07:31.52 | streuner | s/humor/fool/ ? |
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| 07:32.12 | caphuso | http://foldoc.org/?query=s%2F%2F%2F&action=Search |
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| 07:33.50 | |Slurpee| | can someone help me install my nvida fx5200 in sarge stable 4.1 |
| 07:33.54 | |Slurpee| | 3.1 |
| 07:34.19 | streuner | |Slurpee|: xorg or xfree86? |
| 07:34.26 | Azar | |Slurpee|: did you installed x-server first? |
| 07:34.32 | I4NI | I doubt he back ported |
| 07:34.43 | |Slurpee| | i have kde |
| 07:34.50 | beardy | I doubt that too ;) |
| 07:34.50 | streuner | dpkg, xorg sarge |
| 07:34.50 | dpkg | xorg sarge is, like, now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 07:34.51 | I4NI | hes running xfree |
| 07:35.01 | Azar | oh |
| 07:35.34 | Azar | |Slurpee|: pm dpkg ask it about nvidia one-liner |
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| 07:36.05 | |Slurpee| | im confused |
| 07:36.15 | streuner | |Slurpee|: what does 'cat /proc/version' say? |
| 07:36.28 | cheal | |Slurpee|: we are too, you didn't describe what help you want |
| 07:37.11 | |Slurpee| | i need to setup my video card |
| 07:37.13 | cheal | |Slurpee|: I particularly wonder what you mean by install |
| 07:37.15 | beardy | |Slurpee|: "/msg dpkg nvidia" or "/msg dpkg nvidia one-liner" |
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| 07:37.35 | cheal | |Slurpee|: why? is X working? |
| 07:37.49 | |Slurpee| | X is working with onboard video |
| 07:37.49 | streuner | |Slurpee|: why not just answer our question, that would help too? |
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| 07:38.09 | streuner | so you have 2 videocards in your box? |
| 07:38.13 | |Slurpee| | i havent done cat proc yet |
| 07:38.16 | Azar | |Slurpee|: you just replaced your nvidia card? |
| 07:38.30 | |Slurpee| | its a brand new box i just built for mythtv |
| 07:38.33 | cheal | |Slurpee|: which X driver do you use? |
| 07:38.34 | |Slurpee| | i booted with the onboard video |
| 07:38.37 | |Slurpee| | vga ? |
| 07:39.00 | streuner | ok, run 'lspci -v | grep -i vga' |
| 07:39.09 | streuner | and tell us the output |
| 07:39.14 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Use nv or vesa. You don't need the nvidia driver for viewing tv/movies |
| 07:39.27 | cheal | |Slurpee|: did you try nv? sorry, I'm not familiar with several video cards |
| 07:40.31 | beardy | |Slurpee|: answer what streuner said though, you might have to give the bus id of the card when configuring X |
| 07:40.54 | Azar | |Slurpee|: the command to install nvidia driver is all this long line: apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i |
| 07:40.57 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.08 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:41.10 | beardy | Azar: He can /msg himself. |
| 07:41.23 | Azar | beardy sorry I thought he did not understand dpkg message |
| 07:41.32 | cheal | yeah, and I guess Andrew's HOWTO would be more useful |
| 07:41.38 | beardy | Azar: That didn't clear up much.. ;) |
| 07:41.42 | |Slurpee| | hold on |
| 07:41.45 | |Slurpee| | lemme go on irc on that box |
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| 07:41.57 | beardy | |Slurpee|: That's a good idea. |
| 07:42.12 | Azar | cheal I thought Andrew's howto is obsolete, was useful during Woody's days |
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| 07:42.19 | tuv | is anyone aware of a repo with debian packages for additional gnome themes? |
| 07:42.41 | streuner | tuv: art(s).gnome.org |
| 07:42.51 | cheal | Azar: Andrew's HOWTO can't be used for Woody. it's still useful for sarge. |
| 07:42.52 | streuner | tuv: kde-look.org |
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| 07:43.11 | streuner | tuv: those aren't debs, but you could use it as well |
| 07:43.11 | tuv | streuner: is it a debian repo.? |
| 07:43.16 | Azar | cheal, then maybe Andrew has a new howto up |
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| 07:43.45 | tuv | streuner: i know but thought there might be an easier way than download/extract.. |
| 07:44.08 | cheal | Azar: not really. I updated his howto after he showed lacking of time to apply fixes |
| 07:44.18 | streuner | tuv: what's hard to download a tar.gz and read README? |
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| 07:44.40 | tuv | streuner: when you have more than one machine it gets annoying |
| 07:45.01 | Azar | cheal I only thought of it when I remember his howto back in the days when there was no nvidia one liner.. like 3 years ago |
| 07:45.03 | beardy | tuv: .. just unpack them and put them in the way you want them, then move them around. |
| 07:45.15 | |Slurpee| | yo sorry about that |
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| 07:45.28 | aubergine | hi |
| 07:45.29 | |Slurpee| | i was wondering why i couldnt ssh in...and i forgot to open port on my router |
| 07:45.54 | tuv | streuner, beardy: besides.. some get updated and i have to re-download/extract |
| 07:45.57 | |Slurpee| | streuner, slurpee@mythtv:~$ lspci -v | grep -i vga |
| 07:45.57 | |Slurpee| | 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200] (rev a1) (prog-if 00 [VGA]) |
| 07:45.57 | |Slurpee| | slurpee@mythtv:~$ |
| 07:46.17 | beardy | tuv: Poor you. Ask #gnome perhaps. |
| 07:46.35 | aubergine | when i would download a file which is not directly linked, separat with a php script link. how can i download this with wget? |
| 07:47.19 | tuv | why would my console terminals (ttyX) look like garbage with green rectangles all over the screen? |
| 07:47.23 | beardy | tuv: Or maintain a good .deb with themes yourself? |
| 07:47.35 | tung | still havent trouble changing the window manager to enlightenment, i did an apt-get install enlightment and added a file .xinitrc with "exec enlightment" in my home directory |
| 07:48.14 | beardy | tuv: What did you do at the tty? |
| 07:48.45 | I4NI | maybe he did a cat /proc/kcore |
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| 07:49.16 | |Slurpee| | that command is working |
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| 07:49.48 | tuv | it started after i once booted with vga=0x317 (1024x768 vga mode).. i never used that option but again but the problem didn't go away |
| 07:50.11 | ricochet | has anyone noticed mozilla-firefox broken after upgrade the latest "WebDeveloper" plugin? |
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| 07:50.16 | tuv | beardy: it started after i once booted with vga=0x317 (1024x768 vga mode).. i never used that option again but again but the problem didn't go away |
| 07:50.28 | ricochet | no package broken, program broken. |
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| 07:50.45 | Azar | riccochet, not here |
| 07:50.49 | beardy | tuv: Strange.. so if you boot with 0, it's still there? |
| 07:51.12 | tuv | beardy: what do you mean "boot with 0"? |
| 07:51.14 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Use the nv driver. |
| 07:51.20 | |Slurpee| | were and how |
| 07:51.33 | beardy | !drxx |Slurpee| |
| 07:51.33 | dpkg | |Slurpee|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 07:51.46 | whitehorse1 | ricochet: Yes. I had to disable it to get Firefox running again. It broke it by making the status bar thing kind've big IIRC. Sucky. |
| 07:51.54 | Azar | |Slurpee|: I have the same card on a brand new PC and the nvidia one liner installed ok |
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| 07:51.57 | beardy | tuv: Oh, if you had had vga=ask, boot with vga=0 I mean. |
| 07:52.21 | |Slurpee| | dpkg i got into the window |
| 07:52.25 | |Slurpee| | which do i select |
| 07:52.29 | ricochet | whitehorse1: yes. how do you disable it? the menu doesn't work... |
| 07:52.30 | |Slurpee| | azar is it vga ? |
| 07:52.36 | Azar | you tell dpkg: nvidia one liner |
| 07:52.44 | beardy | |Slurpee|: I said, use the _nv_ driver |
| 07:52.45 | Azar | |Slurpee|: yes |
| 07:52.47 | tuv | beardy: i now boot with the default 640x480 vga mode (no vga specified in the boot line) |
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| 07:53.03 | Azar | beardy, if he got the 2.6.8 kernel nv is already there |
| 07:53.09 | beardy | tuv: Use vga=ask, so you can choose that at bootup. |
| 07:53.12 | tonyyarusso | How can I put a spacer line between entries in a grub menu? |
| 07:53.20 | beardy | Azar: ? |
| 07:53.31 | tuv | beardy: i'll try that on the next reboot |
| 07:53.40 | Azar | beardy, the 2.6.8 kernel already reads and assigns nv for him |
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| 07:53.53 | |Slurpee| | Please enter the video card's bus identifier. |
| 07:54.00 | beardy | Azar: The kernel messes with X's configuration? |
| 07:54.00 | tuv | beardy: BTW, i'm using vesafb i guess.. should i be using something else and how would i do that? |
| 07:54.02 | Azar | ..if he installs the nvidia driver |
| 07:54.05 | whitehorse1 | ricochet: It was earlier on so not 100% sure but as I recall while it was hung up loading, I started the Firefox app up again and went to extensions and disabled it there. If that doesn't work I guess you can start Firefox in safe mode using the argument for that (it'll be on mozilla.org's help docs somewhere) so no extensions are loaded active |
| 07:54.27 | Azar | beardy ah |
| 07:54.29 | beardy | tuv: Not should, you use what you want. But if you don't want to use the vesafb |
| 07:54.34 | beardy | !nofb |
| 07:54.34 | dpkg | Append "video=vga16:off" to the kernel at boot time to disable the framebuffer. |
| 07:54.49 | ricochet | whitehorse1, ok thanks. was there a bug report submitted? |
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| 07:55.19 | tonyyarusso | ricochet, FF safe mode swith is just --safe-mode. |
| 07:55.21 | Azar | |Slurpee|: you do not need to enter a bus identifier it reads automatically |
| 07:55.27 | whitehorse1 | ricochet: no, I probably should have but ...long night |
| 07:55.40 | tuv | beardy: what else could i use other than vesafb? what happens if i don't use any framebuffer? in other wards, what does the framebuffer do anyway? |
| 07:55.42 | beardy | Azar: He haid two cards. |
| 07:55.59 | beardy | |Slurpee|: But do as Azar said first, just hit Enter at bus id. |
| 07:56.01 | Azar | beardy wow ah ok |
| 07:56.20 | ricochet | tonyyarusso, whitehorse1: ok thanks. |
| 07:56.24 | beardy | !framebuffer |
| 07:56.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, framebuffer is a region of memory into which "frames" of graphical data are drawn. if you're looking for the framebuffer console, see fbcon. X is also a framebuffer system, as is berlin. |
| 07:56.30 | whitehorse1 | ricochet: welcome |
| 07:56.46 | beardy | tuv: Just normal textmode, default 80x25. |
| 07:57.12 | beardy | tuv: Have you compiled your kernel yourself? |
| 07:57.22 | beardy | tuv: Or, what kernel is that? |
| 07:57.31 | tuv | beardy: nah.. using debian's 2.6.12 from testing |
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| 07:57.53 | |Slurpee| | azar, i entered threw most of the stuff and im at command line |
| 07:58.06 | beardy | tuv: hmm, framebuffer has been default off for a while.. they must have changed that then |
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| 07:58.24 | Azar | |Slurpee|: well then exit root, login as user and type : startx |
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| 07:58.56 | tuv | beardy: it used to work alright before i used the vga=0x317 once and that was enough to never get back since |
| 07:59.02 | |Slurpee| | well i have kde already open |
| 07:59.10 | aubergine | when i would download a file which is not directly linked, separat with a php script link. how can i download this with wget? |
| 07:59.15 | |Slurpee| | should i start kde to get it to see if it changed? |
| 07:59.20 | |Slurpee| | restart kde |
| 07:59.24 | Azar | restart |
| 07:59.26 | beardy | tuv: What are you using now then? |
| 07:59.33 | Azar | exit X and go back to it |
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| 07:59.53 | tuv | beardy: vesafb is loaded |
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| 08:00.00 | beardy | !restartx |
| 08:00.00 | dpkg | from memory, restartx is Don't reboot. Just restart X. Ctrl-Alt-Backspace if you are logged in. '/etc/init.d/?dm restart' if not, as root. (where ?dm can be xdm, kdm, gdm, wdm, other display manager) |
| 08:00.12 | beardy | tuv: Yes, but what is vga= ? |
| 08:00.14 | tuv | beardy: i pass no options to the kernel |
| 08:00.25 | tuv | beardy: no vga= |
| 08:00.59 | beardy | tuv: Well, use vga=ask and see how that works, you will be prompted for the mode. |
| 08:01.19 | beardy | tuv: Do what dpkg said about nofb do try withouy it if you like. |
| 08:01.20 | tuv | beardy: ok.. but do you recommend anything other than vesafb? |
| 08:01.37 | beardy | tuv: normal textmode, as I already said. |
| 08:01.41 | beardy | !nofb |
| 08:01.42 | dpkg | Append "video=vga16:off" to the kernel at boot time to disable the framebuffer. |
| 08:02.04 | beardy | It depends on what you want to do. |
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| 08:03.51 | eeyore- | i only wish i could get 1600x1200-16 in my laptop. there's some sort of in-memory corruption that causes the depth to be overwritten with zero. i know this because i placed call to write out the data structure that gets shown in /proc/fb0/modes every so often, and from one particular call to the next call, the 1600x1200-16 mode becomes 1600x1200-0 |
| 08:03.52 | beardy | The framebuffer exists because some machines only have graphical displaymodes, and no textmode. |
| 08:04.53 | |Slurpee| | now x wont work at all ! |
| 08:05.14 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Did you choose nv? |
| 08:05.17 | Azar | |Slurpee|: ok then you have to install the nvidia one liner |
| 08:05.31 | beardy | Azar: No, he has to give the bus id. |
| 08:06.03 | Azar | beardy so xfree86 already has a nv option you think? |
| 08:06.13 | beardy | ? |
| 08:06.21 | Azar | the reconfigure |
| 08:06.25 | beardy | Azar: nv is a driver that X has, yes. |
| 08:06.56 | Azar | well ok |Slurpee| then add the nv to it |
| 08:07.07 | |Slurpee| | i did do nv |
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| 08:07.21 | Azar | so you did it and you don't have X running.. |
| 08:07.22 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Did you hit Enter when it asked for bus id? |
| 08:07.45 | |Slurpee| | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:07.52 | |Slurpee| | yea when i was asked for bus id, i just hit enter |
| 08:08.18 | |Slurpee| | i get that isntall error when i do the command from dpkg |
| 08:08.23 | Azar | ok since you have TWO video cards is that possible to run them both at same time? |
| 08:08.50 | Azar | what is the other video card you use? the other than the nvidia one? |
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| 08:08.52 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Normally, if you only have one graphics card, that works fine, but since you have to, you have to give it the bus id for your nvidia card. Right now, I think it tries to use your other card, with the nv driver, and that's why it's not working. |
| 08:08.58 | beardy | two |
| 08:09.11 | tonyyarusso | How can I put a spacer line between entries in a grub menu? |
| 08:09.33 | |Slurpee| | i have an onboard vidoe card that shows nothigna and i have the nv on agp which gives bad resolution |
| 08:09.56 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Then you didn't configure the correct resolution. |
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| 08:10.12 | |Slurpee| | well not it wont even start x |
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| 08:11.16 | Azar | |Slurpee|: when picking up resolutions pick the default (desired) resolution 1024x768 then when you get the lists with the resolutions pick additional 800x600 so you will have/use them both |
| 08:11.21 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Run dpkg-reconfigure again. |
| 08:11.38 | |Slurpee| | whats teh full ecommand |
| 08:11.46 | beardy | !drxx |Slurpee| |
| 08:11.46 | dpkg | |Slurpee|: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 08:11.51 | Azar | |Slurpee|: redo the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 08:12.13 | |Slurpee| | bus id? |
| 08:12.15 | |Slurpee| | agp ? |
| 08:12.18 | Azar | nv |
| 08:12.28 | beardy | Azar: No.. |
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| 08:12.37 | aubergine | when i would download a file which is not directly linked, separat with a php script link. how can i download this with wget? |
| 08:12.45 | Azar | well heck who knows the bus id for his nvidia? |
| 08:13.05 | Azar | on bus id leave blank and press enter |
| 08:13.06 | kofj | I have been not able to login msn with gaim for a long time,something wrong with gaim?Or ms has done something? |
| 08:13.28 | tonyyarusso | aubergine, I once did that, just by passing the url with the php script to wget, and it figured it out from there. |
| 08:13.52 | aubergine | no it downloads the php file :) |
| 08:13.58 | |Slurpee| | memory on card ? |
| 08:14.10 | Azar | |Slurpee|: when it asks for the video driver description put GeForce FX 5200 or whatever number is |
| 08:14.11 | beardy | Azar: No, that was what he did, and since that takes his first card, it wont work. |
| 08:14.28 | Azar | beardy what if we ignore the first card here? |
| 08:14.34 | Azar | just try to fix the nvidia one? |
| 08:15.07 | beardy | Azar: It wont work I say, don't you listen? He has two cards, if he doesn't enter the bus id, it will take the first one it finds. |
| 08:15.10 | Azar | I am not yet sure what he meant by onboard video |
| 08:15.22 | |Slurpee| | defaul color depeth ? |
| 08:15.28 | Azar | he has one card and one chip |
| 08:15.29 | beardy | Azar: Another graphics card, bult onto his motherboard. |
| 08:15.36 | tonyyarusso | aubergine, Is it a URL that actually contains the reference for the PHP script to use, or is that being passed with something else, like a cookie or javascript or something? |
| 08:15.45 | Azar | |Slurpee|: 24 |
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| 08:16.19 | tonyyarusso | aubergine, What is the link you're trying to get? |
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| 08:16.37 | Azar | |Slurpee|: what exactly is the name of the video driver you use onboard? |
| 08:16.54 | aubergine | http://go.download.filefront.com/4508910;e246389fc0731b60;1b283f2dbb9a9686cf156cfdb93884c1acddb9393e92d6fbe560ef0a734f39dc7d4d15cb08e307e9 |
| 08:16.54 | |Slurpee| | not sure |
| 08:16.59 | aubergine | this is the link |
| 08:17.03 | Azar | the" other" "second" video |
| 08:17.09 | Azar | I tend to think there is none |
| 08:17.19 | |Slurpee| | k8mm-v is the mobo |
| 08:17.33 | Azar | same as mine, and I do not have "onboard" video |
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| 08:17.46 | Azar | I guess you do not have a second video |
| 08:18.15 | Azar | you got a via chipset mobo same as mine |
| 08:18.21 | |Slurpee| | k |
| 08:18.27 | Azar | you do have "onboard" sound tho |
| 08:18.42 | tonyyarusso | aubergine, You sure about that address? For me it's giving a 404 page. |
| 08:18.48 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Run this 'X -scanbus' and check what it outputs, it may be output to /var/log/XFree86.0.log, so if nothing shows in your terminal, 'less /var/log/XFree86.0.log" after you have run the first I said. |
| 08:19.14 | beardy | |Slurpee|: And check what it says on the bottom of that file. |
| 08:19.20 | |Slurpee| | X -scanbus |
| 08:19.24 | |Slurpee| | that gives me a lot of options |
| 08:19.46 | beardy | !paster |Slurpee| |
| 08:19.46 | dpkg | |Slurpee|: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
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| 08:20.29 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# X -scanbus |
| 08:20.29 | |Slurpee| | Unrecognized option: -scanbus |
| 08:20.36 | |Slurpee| | then a bunch of string options |
| 08:21.00 | aubergine | tony: yes it works i think its because of the IP |
| 08:21.23 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Ok.. |
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| 08:21.58 | marx|crazy | Hey, does anyone here know about using SD cards in Debian? |
| 08:21.58 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Do you see a scanbus option? |
| 08:22.26 | tonyyarusso | aubergine, How so? |
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| 08:22.55 | |Slurpee| | scanpci |
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| 08:23.01 | beardy | |Slurpee|: I don't have X here at the moment, so I can't check for myself.. |
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| 08:23.11 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Try with that. |
| 08:24.39 | Azar | beardy why do you think that nvidia one liner won't do for him? |
| 08:25.19 | beardy | Azar: He doesn't need it, and if he would use that, he would still need the bus id, so stop whining about that one-liner now. |
| 08:25.55 | |Slurpee| | oh snap |
| 08:25.57 | |Slurpee| | this sux |
| 08:26.05 | I4NI | anyone know if winpopup is in XP pro by default, Im trying a smbclient -M and nothing is happening |
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| 08:26.24 | |Slurpee| | if i cant get the video card going...ill never get the tv card going :( |
| 08:26.54 | Azar | it should not be such a pain in the ass getting X going |
| 08:27.07 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Yes you will, one thing at a time and you'll get it going eventually. |
| 08:27.21 | wobbler | |Slurpee|: you did check in your bios to see that the agp was turned on rite? |
| 08:27.24 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Did X -scanpci return anything? |
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| 08:28.10 | |Slurpee| | wobbler, i didnt check that ... |
| 08:28.15 | marc_in_lux | good morning |
| 08:28.16 | beardy | |Slurpee|: That's another option, if it's possible, to turn of the onboard video card in the bios, then your nvidia card would hopefully be used without giving the bus id. |
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| 08:28.33 | |Slurpee| | k |
| 08:28.34 | beardy | off |
| 08:28.38 | |Slurpee| | lemme puts in bios |
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| 08:28.55 | beardy | |Slurpee|: What about 'X -scanpci'? |
| 08:28.57 | marc_in_lux | I am trying to recover a borked lvm volume group. I think my problem is that device mapper doesn't remember its tables. Can I somehow reactivate those? |
| 08:29.44 | beardy | Azar: There should be no wars. |
| 08:29.52 | |Slurpee| | yo |
| 08:29.55 | |Slurpee| | primary graphics is agp |
| 08:30.14 | |Slurpee| | nethign else to check in the bios while im here ? |
| 08:30.30 | Azar | there are none, I suspect he has same mobo as I have.. |
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| 08:30.43 | |Slurpee| | k8mm-v ? |
| 08:30.45 | |Slurpee| | msi ? |
| 08:30.50 | Azar | yes |
| 08:30.51 | |Slurpee| | amd chip ? |
| 08:30.55 | |Slurpee| | mythtv ? |
| 08:30.55 | Azar | yes |
| 08:31.02 | |Slurpee| | 2800+ sempron |
| 08:31.04 | Azar | yes |
| 08:31.05 | |Slurpee| | 64 bit |
| 08:31.07 | Azar | yes |
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| 08:31.11 | beardy | !enter |
| 08:31.11 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 08:31.15 | Azar | no 32bit |
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| 08:31.18 | thechris | heh |
| 08:31.30 | beardy | Then go ahead. But I doubt it will work though. |
| 08:31.36 | kapil | marc_in_lux: does vgscan show your volumes |
| 08:31.43 | marc_in_lux | kapil, yes it does |
| 08:31.54 | Azar | now there is a thing: the mobo is "64bit" upgradeable, the chip tho is a 2800+ sempron 32bit |
| 08:31.56 | Jeeves_moss | ALL: how do I get dpkg to answer my question about creating samba passwords so my M$ machines can access my samba server? |
| 08:31.56 | kapil | marc_in_lux: what about lvscan |
| 08:32.08 | marc_in_lux | it does, too |
| 08:32.17 | beardy | |Slurpee|: If you don't want to answer what 'X -scanpci' gives, have Azar help you with the proprietary nvidia driver if you wish. |
| 08:32.31 | Jeeves_moss | dpkg: how to I create passwords in samba? |
| 08:32.37 | |Slurpee| | sorry i was rebooting |
| 08:32.42 | I4NI | keeves, are you trying to run samba as a PDC? |
| 08:32.47 | |Slurpee| | its booting up now |
| 08:32.49 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: * |
| 08:32.58 | marc_in_lux | when I try to mount, it asks me the filesystem type. |
| 08:32.58 | kapil | marc_in_lux: dmsetup table to see what tables the devmapper has |
| 08:33.03 | beardy | Jeeves_moss: Don't ask it random things. |
| 08:33.08 | Ragabobla | I have updated my unstable and now my AltGr button won't work in X. I'm using Xorg and my xkblayout is set to dk (danish) and my locale is also dk_DK, I have also tried the "loadkeys" command with the danish keymap, but still nothing....:-( |
| 08:33.26 | marc_in_lux | kapil, it shows no tables for all the volumes |
| 08:33.26 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: I'm just trying to use some drive space on my one linux box right now to stuff some things till I reformat my laptop. I just need to know how to create an account so I can access some space to toss things over to it. |
| 08:33.35 | adamorph | Hi, can anyone suggest how to disable rivafb at boot .. Ive tried params such as video=vga16:off without success. |
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| 08:34.08 | beardy | adamorph: Why did you compile that in if you don't want it? |
| 08:34.18 | |Slurpee| | Fatal server error: |
| 08:34.18 | |Slurpee| | Server is already active for display 0 |
| 08:34.25 | thechris | adamorph: maybe try vesa? |
| 08:34.25 | eeyore- | Jeeves_moss: why do you need an account? just use root |
| 08:34.25 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: thats pretty simple, the default smb.conf file should give you the operability |
| 08:34.28 | |Slurpee| | that is what happens when i do X -scnapci |
| 08:34.44 | beardy | |Slurpee|: /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 08:34.46 | kapil | marc_in_lux: what about lvdisplay <logical_volume_name> |
| 08:34.52 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: I tried it with the Linux root password, and it just pops up with the re-auth box again. |
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| 08:35.10 | marc_in_lux | kapil, works |
| 08:35.16 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 08:35.16 | |Slurpee| | -bash: /etc/init.d/kdm: No such file or directory |
| 08:35.18 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Then try again. |
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| 08:35.22 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: I tried the only other account on the box as well, nothing. |
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| 08:35.27 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Well, what are you running then? |
| 08:35.37 | |Slurpee| | runinh ? |
| 08:35.40 | eeyore- | Jeeves_moss: you're trying to do what with what? use windows to write to linux or something? |
| 08:35.41 | adamorph | beardy .. good question. I was naive on framebuffers having only used ..nv.. before and was trying to eliminate error maeeages after make modules install .. |
| 08:35.42 | I4NI | you need to add users to your /etc/passwd first, then add the same user with smbpasswd -a <username> |
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| 08:35.52 | eeyore- | Jeeves_moss: if so, smbpasswd -a <account-name> |
| 08:36.02 | thechris | |Slurpee|: you may try replacing kdm with gdm or xdm if you've change that |
| 08:36.02 | beardy | adamorph: nv is X, not framebuffer |
| 08:36.05 | adamorph | Beardy .. messages .. |
| 08:36.20 | beardy | !waic adamorph |
| 08:36.22 | |Slurpee| | how do i replace it |
| 08:36.36 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: yes, I'm trying to store files from a windows box on the Linux server using Samba. How ever, when I go to auto to log onto the Samba share, it won't accept the user/pass combo |
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| 08:36.49 | eeyore- | Jeeves_moss: smbpasswd |
| 08:36.50 | kapil | marc_in_lux: cant see how this has happen. |
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| 08:37.07 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Don't do what he just said, that will do no good. |
| 08:37.10 | Azar | |Slurpee|: for the time being, until you fix this issue you might remove xdm, gdm, kdm with apt-get then reinstall them when you are done |
| 08:37.17 | marc_in_lux | kapil, was doing a pvmove when it crashed |
| 08:37.27 | beardy | Azar: You help him then. |
| 08:37.28 | |Slurpee| | remove xdm ? |
| 08:37.32 | eeyore- | Azar: why? |
| 08:37.40 | Azar | beardy, no its ok was just an idea |
| 08:37.43 | eeyore- | Azar: insert "exit 0" in /etc/init.d/*dm :-) |
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| 08:37.55 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: but you did add the users with smbpasswd -a? |
| 08:37.58 | adamorph | beardy .. OK .. X .. but I get a screenful of .. XXX.XXX rivafb pan displaySTART .. at passwd login abd am unable to get |
| 08:37.59 | anapivirtua__ | lo tlm |
| 08:38.00 | adamorph | to menuconfig to recompile .. |
| 08:38.06 | regnar-de | good morning all |
| 08:38.21 | Azar | |Slurpee|: what beardy wanted to say is that kdm is running in the background and needs stopped |
| 08:38.24 | marc_in_lux | kapil, is there a way to manually reactivate these tables? |
| 08:38.36 | thechris | |Slurpee|: this may be a dumb question, but you do have the nvidia module loaded right? |
| 08:38.45 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: thanks bud. it looks like it worked. Now do I need to use that for every user I'm going to create on this box? And how does Samba alocate storage space on the server? Does it just keep filling up the /home directory under that user's name? |
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| 08:39.32 | I4NI | yes, use smbpasswd -a for all users that will access the linux box. And the default will use space in the users home directory |
| 08:40.05 | |Slurpee| | thechris, i dont know ? |
| 08:40.06 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: Ok, now that I created the account. it won't let my make directories, etc. how do I fix that? |
| 08:40.15 | regnar-de | i'm playing around with colinux with the debian image and i want to change the keymap to german. i got the layout loaded with loadkeys but how do i do it that it will stay after reboot? |
| 08:40.18 | I4NI | be sure to add the users with useradd first |
| 08:40.35 | Jeeves_moss | ooopps: ok, how do I do that? |
| 08:40.35 | thechris | |Slurpee|: lsmod | grep nv |
| 08:40.45 | I4NI | under the [homes] section put the line "writable = yes" |
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| 08:41.03 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# lsmod | grep nv |
| 08:41.04 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# |
| 08:41.19 | thechris | !tell |Slurpee| about nvidia |
| 08:41.19 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: "homes" section? in what config file was that again? (sorry, I'm very new to linux) |
| 08:41.32 | Azar | |Slurpee|: try to see if you INDEED have two video cards: run lspci |
| 08:41.38 | kapil | marc_in_lux: looking .... |
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| 08:41.49 | marc_in_lux | thx |
| 08:41.59 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: its in your /etc/samba/smb.conf file |
| 08:42.10 | beardy | He fucking said so an hour ago.. |
| 08:42.12 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: ok, thanks. looking now. |
| 08:42.13 | Azar | I guess we started from the beginning with the "idea" that |Slurpee| has two video cards |
| 08:42.30 | Azar | he "said so" I do not believe him |
| 08:42.46 | beardy | !clue Azar |
| 08:42.46 | |Slurpee| | i did the coomands before and they dont wory chris |
| 08:42.57 | kapil | marc_in_lux: does lvmdiskscan do anything for you? |
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| 08:43.00 | Azar | ok beardy I am sorry |
| 08:43.08 | thechris | |Slurpee|: they don't worry me at all |
| 08:43.21 | thechris | |Slurpee|: anyways, try a modprobe nvidia |
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| 08:43.45 | |Slurpee| | how do i modprobe nvidia |
| 08:43.50 | marc_in_lux | kapil, it shows me all physical partitions and volumes I have |
| 08:43.51 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: how do I get it to accept the read/write in the config? do I have to restart smb? |
| 08:43.54 | beardy | thechris: You don't know what you are talking about. |
| 08:44.23 | marc_in_lux | kapil, it looks to me like everything's there - but the dm tables |
| 08:44.27 | kapil | marc_in_lux: does it show any LVM entries |
| 08:44.31 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: yes, do an "/etc/init.d/samba restart" |
| 08:44.33 | Azar | |Slurpee|: modprobe nvidia |
| 08:44.45 | beardy | That proved that.. |
| 08:44.58 | marc_in_lux | kapil, yes it shows the lvm entries of my vg's |
| 08:45.07 | eeyore- | what's the problem with slurpee? |
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| 08:45.22 | thechris | beardy: he is in #mythtv-users asking how to set up a nvidia 5200 vidoe card. i have a feeling there is no huge software issue, just that nvidia and X never got set up |
| 08:45.31 | Azar | eeyore-: he is trying for the past 45 min to figure out how to install nvidia |
| 08:45.50 | eeyore- | Azar: so what's so hard about that? |
| 08:46.04 | Azar | eeyore-: that's what I wonder myself |
| 08:46.06 | Jeeves_moss | I4NI: Thank you VERY much. I think I've got the hang of this now. |
| 08:46.10 | beardy | thechris: That is what I was helping him with, but others intevene with clueless ramblings. |
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| 08:46.28 | I4NI | Jeeves_moss: No prob bud, good luck! |
| 08:46.29 | eeyore- | i'll just stand off to the side and watch :-) |
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| 08:46.34 | Azar | nvidia one liner did it for me and I have exactly same hardware system he has |
| 08:46.47 | beardy | He's all yours. |
| 08:46.49 | Jeeves_moss | ALL: Thanks again guys. its time for bed for me. its 3:46am |
| 08:46.51 | beardy | Azar: Help him then. |
| 08:46.56 | Azar | ok |
| 08:47.24 | thechris | beardy: oh, sry. like i said, i was drug into the middle of it from another channel |
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| 08:48.24 | Azar | |Slurpee|: when you get the time, in root, at command line type exactly (no typos) what dpkg will tell you about nvidia one liner, hint: it starts with "apt-get install module-assistant.... ends in xserver-xfree86" now, do: /msg dpkg nvidia one liner please |
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| 08:48.31 | kapil | marc_in_lux: lvm keeps the metadata so in principle you can recover everything. im looking for a solution that avoids a reboot... |
| 08:48.51 | kapil | marc_in_lux: reboots should always be avoided on principle! |
| 08:49.21 | eeyore- | kapil: why, you have users running critical jobs? |
| 08:49.22 | tung | one thing that really annoys me, when i double click on the "computer" icon on the desktop and then browse for files, new windows keep opening, how do i prevent that? |
| 08:49.30 | Azar | eeyore-: opterons overheat |
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| 08:49.42 | thechris | tung: you mean spatial nautilus? |
| 08:49.43 | |Slurpee| | azar, Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. |
| 08:49.51 | kapil | marc_in_lux: try vgscan --mknodes |
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| 08:49.58 | |Slurpee| | that what happens when i put in the comand |
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| 08:50.01 | tung | thechris: i dunno, i guess |
| 08:50.26 | Azar | |Slurpee|: you have KDM running in the background you got to stop it |
| 08:50.26 | thechris | tung: is this desktop gnome? with a menu at the upper left? |
| 08:50.36 | tung | thechris: sorry, i wish i could be more helpful, yes, im using gnome and nautilus |
| 08:50.37 | Azar | ah |
| 08:50.56 | kapil | marc_in_lux: also vgmknodes which will make the device entries. |
| 08:50.56 | Azar | |Slurpee|: what kernel are you using right now? 2.4.x or 2.6.x ? |
| 08:50.59 | tung | thechris: i just tried enlightenment 16, didnt like it much |
| 08:51.23 | thechris | tung: i think you can now turn that off from within nautilus. if not there, you can from inside gconf |
| 08:51.24 | tung | thechris: so yes, this is gnome with the menu in the upper left |
| 08:51.35 | marc_in_lux | kapil, i can get the nodes set up like that |
| 08:51.36 | |Slurpee| | how do i turn off kdm ? |
| 08:51.49 | eeyore- | Azar: you must have poor ventilation |
| 08:51.49 | marc_in_lux | but when i try to mount, it still asks for fs type |
| 08:52.01 | Azar | eeyore-: small box |
| 08:52.09 | Azar | kdm, kdm, never used it |
| 08:52.11 | Deviad | hello |
| 08:52.14 | tung | thechris: whats the command to start gconf from "run..." |
| 08:52.16 | marc_in_lux | when i give it, it says mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock.... |
| 08:52.25 | eeyore- | Azar: i have two iwill opteron boxes. one in a/c cooled room. one air-cooled. neither overheats |
| 08:52.30 | thechris | tung: it should be in the menu someplace |
| 08:52.39 | Azar | eeyore-: nice |
| 08:52.41 | marc_in_lux | dmesg says "EXT3-fs: unable to read superblock |
| 08:52.41 | marc_in_lux | " |
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| 08:52.49 | Deviad | http://pastebin.com/494631 |
| 08:52.51 | kapil | marc_in_lux: can you read from the devices as in 'dd if=<logical dev> of=/dev/null bs=1024 count=16' |
| 08:52.54 | Deviad | Can anyone pls help me with that error? |
| 08:53.16 | thechris | tung: http://gnomesupport.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=6672 |
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| 08:53.47 | varcolac | can anyone tell me what i need to do what is at the bottom of this screenshot?: http://www.raffi.at/windowmanager/fvwm.png http://www.raffi.at/windowmanager/fvwm.png |
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| 08:54.22 | marc_in_lux | kapil, "0 bytes transferred" |
| 08:54.36 | kapil | marc_in_lux: oh.oh. that means that the latest metadata stored by lvm may be wrong. try to look at the backup metadata it is in /etc/lvm/backup |
| 08:54.44 | Ragabobla | Can someone help me with my keymap and AltGr |
| 08:54.48 | Azar | |Slurpee|: /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
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| 08:55.14 | Azar | |Slurpee|: what kernel version are you running? |
| 08:55.18 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# /etc/init.d/kdm stop |
| 08:55.18 | |Slurpee| | -bash: /etc/init.d/kdm: No such file or directory |
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| 08:55.28 | |Slurpee| | how can i check ? |
| 08:55.29 | Azar | damn KDE |
| 08:55.31 | tung | thechris: thank! |
| 08:55.35 | tung | thechris: thanks! |
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| 08:55.47 | eeyore- | gee. just "init 1" already |
| 08:55.57 | KSergio | hello |
| 08:56.07 | KSergio | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:56.13 | Azar | |Slurpee|: who installed Debian for you? |
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| 08:56.21 | marc_in_lux | kapil ... ok.. what can i do with that information? |
| 08:56.25 | |Slurpee| | i instaled it |
| 08:56.38 | Azar | |Slurpee|: then what kernel did you installed with it? |
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| 08:56.51 | |Slurpee| | im not sure |
| 08:56.58 | |Slurpee| | debian stable srage 3.1 |
| 08:57.00 | eeyore- | |Slurpee|: is it hard to "uname -r"? |
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| 08:57.34 | Azar | ok you need to install the 2.6.8 kernel first |
| 08:57.54 | Deviad | Can anyone help me with that message pls? |
| 08:57.56 | Deviad | It's important |
| 08:58.04 | Azar | |Slurpee|: do you use Grub or LILO? |
| 08:58.05 | Deviad | http://pastebin.com/494631 |
| 08:58.12 | eeyore- | Deviad: too lazy to cut & paste. what's wrong with it? |
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| 08:58.18 | Deviad | I can't run apt |
| 08:58.23 | eeyore- | why not? |
| 08:58.25 | Deviad | and they are more than 2 lines |
| 08:58.28 | Deviad | because of this: |
| 08:58.30 | Deviad | http://pastebin.com/494631 |
| 08:58.37 | Deviad | That's the error that I have got |
| 08:58.43 | kapil | marc_in_lux: in principle it tells you how to reconstruct your disks. in practice i haven't really had to use it yet. |
| 08:58.43 | Azar | eeyore-: what is Sarge installer coming with? Grub or LILO? |
| 08:58.45 | Deviad | I can't past it here, it would be flooding |
| 08:58.46 | Deviad | D |
| 08:58.50 | Deviad | :D |
| 08:59.05 | eeyore- | oh well. screen keeps scrolling |
| 08:59.11 | eeyore- | i hate playing cat & mouse chase game |
| 08:59.11 | Azar | :) |
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| 08:59.16 | marc_in_lux | kapil, just looking at it... it tells me about segments for my lv's |
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| 08:59.40 | atrus | Deviad: you're doing a pretty good job of flooding anyways |
| 08:59.42 | marc_in_lux | I probably would need to puzzle those segments together for the dm tables...? |
| 08:59.45 | eeyore- | Azar: either. i just install grub as a matter of habit |
| 08:59.52 | Deviad | atrus, ^^ |
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| 09:00.15 | Azar | ok you know sorry for my finding but Sarge installer for newbies sucks |
| 09:00.20 | |Slurpee| | grub |
| 09:00.29 | Azar | he does not know what kernel he has, he does not know what bootloader he has |
| 09:00.32 | Azar | ok |
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| 09:00.35 | jenda-zZz | Hey peeps. I have a guy that cannot enter this channel for help because of this entry in your banlist: *!*@85.9*.*.* - which is obviously too general. Could I ask an op to remove that, please? (I am from #help) |
| 09:00.37 | kapil | marc_in_lux: the metadata in /etc/lvm/backup can be used by vgcfgrestore. but be careful. you may really trash stuff :( |
| 09:01.03 | marc_in_lux | kapil, well, I don't know what way I'd be better off :-\ |
| 09:01.06 | Azar | grub is said is easy on newbies, is automatic and you do not need to do nothing about (so they say) ok |
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| 09:01.16 | |Slurpee| | k |
| 09:01.20 | *** mode/#debian [-b *!*@85.8.*.*] by eeyore- |
| 09:01.25 | Azar | |Slurpee|: you need to upgrade the kernel, I assume you got the 2.4 by default |
| 09:01.26 | Deviad | :( |
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| 09:01.30 | |Slurpee| | k |
| 09:01.30 | jenda-zZz | Thanks, eeyore- :) |
| 09:01.33 | kapil | marc_in_lux: sorry that i cant help more. have to be going. best of luck. |
| 09:01.33 | |Slurpee| | how do i update it |
| 09:01.41 | Azar | |Slurpee|: as ROOT at command line you do this |
| 09:01.43 | marc_in_lux | thanks a lot, kapil |
| 09:01.51 | eeyore- | uh oops |
| 09:01.53 | eeyore- | can't type today |
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| 09:02.09 | Azar | |Slurpee|: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
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| 09:02.32 | bucky | remove the ban on mwilson |
| 09:02.42 | eeyore- | bucky: huh? |
| 09:02.45 | Azar | mwilson! :) |
| 09:02.49 | eeyore- | 85.9.* is mwilson? |
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| 09:02.58 | eeyore- | you're shitting me, right? |
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| 09:03.34 | bucky | [mwilson] (i=mdn9ac2s@ip68-8-227-205.sd.sd.cox.net): Marc Wilson |
| 09:03.36 | Azar | I hope grub not gonna shit on him at kernel upgrade |
| 09:03.39 | |Slurpee| | 24.2.7 |
| 09:03.48 | |Slurpee| | thats the kernal verison |
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| 09:04.00 | Azar | ok |Slurpee| do what I told you |
| 09:04.08 | bucky | mwilson tried to log on new years eve |
| 09:04.23 | jenda-zZz | eeyore-: *!*@85.9*.*.* NOT *!*@85.9.*.* - thanks |
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| 09:04.44 | eeyore- | jenda-zZz: ok, one more time :-) |
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| 09:04.54 | groulder | the instructions for getting the 2006 gpg key, should those commands be done as root? |
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| 09:05.23 | jenda-zZz | There... thanks again. |
| 09:05.24 | Azar | |Slurpee|: aptitude install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
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| 09:06.31 | |Slurpee| | k its going |
| 09:06.35 | |Slurpee| | u think this will fix it ? |
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| 09:06.58 | quasisane | Deviad: are you still here and in need of a fix for that texinfo update error? |
| 09:07.24 | Azar | |Slurpee|: I think so |
| 09:07.28 | |Slurpee| | k its done updating |
| 09:07.28 | |Slurpee| | now what |
| 09:07.36 | Deviad | quasisane, a debian developer I know fixed my problem |
| 09:07.36 | Azar | updating? |
| 09:07.48 | Azar | I hope you installed the new 2.6.8 kernel |
| 09:07.51 | Deviad | it's because of a bug of texinfo that's been solved but it's still in incoming |
| 09:07.52 | quasisane | Deviad: ah, ok. |
| 09:07.52 | Deviad | :P |
| 09:08.20 | Azar | if you have the grub bootloader, then pray to god is working ok and reboot |
| 09:08.55 | eeyore- | Azar: that's crapshoot, man. edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and make sure things work right |
| 09:09.01 | |Slurpee| | psssh |
| 09:09.03 | |Slurpee| | thanx |
| 09:09.07 | Azar | wait |
| 09:09.07 | |Slurpee| | i already typed reboot |
| 09:09.26 | Azar | eeyore-: I never used grub so maybe you can tell him how grub gets groomed |
| 09:09.28 | |Slurpee| | i can reformat in the morning |
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| 09:09.36 | |Slurpee| | this is a brand new box |
| 09:09.40 | |Slurpee| | there is nothin on it |
| 09:09.48 | Azar | ok |
| 09:10.21 | Azar | |Slurpee|: I use LILO and I allways run it after kernel upgrade, I have no idea how grub goes |
| 09:10.43 | Azar | thats Sarge installer "stuff" that I never tried |
| 09:11.08 | Azar | |Slurpee|: the main idea is 1. first you upgrade the kernel to 2.6.8 version |
| 09:11.20 | I4NI | id you dpkg -i your kernel image it updates grub automatically |
| 09:11.21 | Azar | 2. install nvidia driver |
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| 09:11.32 | I4NI | if* |
| 09:11.35 | Azar | 2. run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:11.56 | Azar | and that should be it, in less than half hour all should be ok |
| 09:12.04 | eeyore- | or ..... emerge nvidia-kernel |
| 09:12.07 | eeyore- | :-) |
| 09:12.16 | Azar | grrrrr :) |
| 09:12.25 | Azar | neeko that you? |
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| 09:13.06 | Azar | I thought you went to bed |
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| 09:13.59 | |Slurpee| | it booted ! |
| 09:14.10 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:14.10 | |Slurpee| | -bash: run: command not found |
| 09:14.11 | Azar | you were lucky it seems grub indeed works |
| 09:14.30 | Azar | I told you to run , not to TYPE run |
| 09:14.32 | eeyore- | slup: leave out the "run" command :-p |
| 09:14.35 | bucky | you mean run isn't a bash command? |
| 09:14.37 | Azar | run I ment run the command |
| 09:14.50 | eeyore- | bucky: only if you installed bash-mindreading module |
| 09:14.56 | bucky | haha |
| 09:14.58 | Azar | :) |
| 09:15.16 | eeyore- | bucky: you know, the one that extends bash-completion |
| 09:15.21 | Azar | walk, run, eh |
| 09:15.57 | Azar | |Slurpee|: what about nvidia installation? that goes first |
| 09:16.14 | |Slurpee| | k |
| 09:16.41 | |Slurpee| | restart |
| 09:16.44 | |Slurpee| | or start x |
| 09:16.44 | Azar | |Slurpee|: our dear dpkg bot here will tell you how to do it do /msg dpkg nvidia one liner |
| 09:16.50 | Azar | do not start x |
| 09:16.51 | Azar | no |
| 09:16.57 | Azar | install nvidia |
| 09:17.52 | eeyore- | oh, in case anyone cares ... cryptsetup-luks kicks butt |
| 09:18.10 | |Slurpee| | apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare |
| 09:18.14 | |Slurpee| | all that ?? |
| 09:18.17 | Azar | eeyore-: did you see the latest nvidia drivers out? |
| 09:18.37 | |Slurpee| | whoa its downloadin ! |
| 09:18.38 | Azar | |Slurpee that entire line EXACT as is with no typos |
| 09:18.59 | |Slurpee| | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.06 | eeyore- | Azar: i'm running 8178 |
| 09:19.15 | |Slurpee| | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.15 | |Slurpee| | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:19.16 | Azar | :) fast fast |
| 09:19.17 | |Slurpee| | ? |
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| 09:19.23 | I4NI | I think the nvidia driver needs the source of the kernel you are using |
| 09:19.31 | Azar | try again the whole entire line with no typo errors |
| 09:19.45 | |Slurpee| | sam error |
| 09:19.48 | Azar | I4NI might be right |
| 09:20.23 | Azar | I4NI: that why I told him to upgrade the kernel |
| 09:20.41 | I4NI | he needs to apt-get the kernel source as well |
| 09:20.44 | beardy | |Slurpee|: Try asking on Monday instead. |
| 09:20.51 | |Slurpee| | damniy |
| 09:20.56 | Azar | |Slurpee|: try this: apt-cache search nvidia-kernel |
| 09:21.06 | I4NI | or compile his own, but that might be too troublesome |
| 09:21.17 | Azar | look at the list and try to get same kernel type |
| 09:21.17 | |Slurpee| | mythtv:~# apt-cache search nvidia-kernel |
| 09:21.17 | |Slurpee| | W: Couldn't stat source package list ftp://ftp.nerim.net unstable/main Packages (/var/li |
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| 09:21.39 | Azar | UNSTABLE what? |
| 09:21.54 | Azar | wow |
| 09:21.56 | eeyore- | ah, the joys of debian |
| 09:21.59 | Azar | unstable huh? |
| 09:22.05 | |Slurpee| | im stable |
| 09:22.14 | Azar | but your sources point to unstable |
| 09:22.21 | eeyore- | Azar: just one, relax |
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| 09:22.27 | Azar | ah |
| 09:22.47 | eeyore- | Azar: nerim.net is .. marillat is it? |
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| 09:23.01 | eeyore- | Azar: not even sure if that one is still legit |
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| 09:23.33 | |Slurpee| | im goin to bed |
| 09:23.33 | Azar | ok anyways I have to tell him: |Slurpee| on your /etc/apt/sources.list you have to have "stable" or "Sarge" pointers otherwise you git in trouble |
| 09:23.36 | |Slurpee| | thanx for your help |
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| 09:23.47 | Azar | ok good luck |
| 09:23.53 | |Slurpee| | nite |
| 09:23.56 | eeyore- | |Slurpee|: open up ssh for me and i'll fix it for you in 10 minutes :-) |
| 09:24.01 | eeyore- | assuming you have large pipe |
| 09:24.14 | Azar | neeko... hmmm |
| 09:24.17 | beardy | And you're an op? |
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| 09:24.25 | eeyore- | beardy: sure :-) |
| 09:24.35 | Azar | I wonder how did you got that? |
| 09:24.41 | eeyore- | beardy: it's too boring watching the back and forth |
| 09:24.48 | eeyore- | would have been over with a long time ago |
| 09:25.04 | eeyore- | do this, no wait, do that. no wait, you typed that in wrong ... |
| 09:25.09 | eeyore- | Azar: got what? |
| 09:25.26 | beardy | Yeah, if people could now when to shut up.. |
| 09:25.29 | Azar | |Slurpee|: is said that you can install Sarge with a 2.6 kernel if you chose so |
| 09:25.35 | Azar | neeko: ops |
| 09:25.46 | eeyore- | Azar: i'm not neeko. who the hell is neeko |
| 09:25.49 | SoS | did someone have Planet WRT-414 wireless broandband router? |
| 09:25.59 | eeyore- | Azar: i've been at this a *long* time, in case you didn't notice :-) |
| 09:26.07 | Azar | eeyore-: sorry my friend uses same nick as yours sometimes |
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| 09:26.27 | eeyore- | Azar: just kidding. i am neeko. |
| 09:26.32 | eeyore- | Azar: or, am i? |
| 09:26.33 | Azar | and also uses "emerge" way too often |
| 09:26.40 | eeyore- | (evil) |
| 09:26.47 | Azar | indeeds |
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| 09:27.24 | Azar | I am sorry he got upset |
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| 09:27.38 | kuja | How do I disable default stuff like gdm? |
| 09:28.01 | eeyore- | kuja: either don't install it, or edit the /etc/init.d/gdm script to simply return 0 and not do anything |
| 09:28.19 | liable | !tell kuja about nodm |
| 09:28.20 | atrus | dpkg tell kuja about update-rc.d |
| 09:28.21 | kuja | Yeah, apt just installed it automatically |
| 09:28.29 | Azar | kuja: apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm |
| 09:28.31 | eeyore- | kuja: debian doesn't have the concept of "install it but don't run it" |
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| 09:28.40 | Coweater | kuja: yes it does |
| 09:28.43 | Coweater | er eeyore- |
| 09:28.50 | kuja | Well, apt installed it and ran it :) |
| 09:28.54 | Azar | debian rules! |
| 09:28.55 | eeyore- | Coweater: you install it, it gets run |
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| 09:29.16 | Azar | apt-get install / apt-get remove |
| 09:29.18 | Coweater | eeyore-: by default yes, look at the update-rc.d factoid atrus pointed out though |
| 09:29.27 | kuja | Azar: That's more elegant in my case, maybe |
| 09:29.30 | eeyore- | Coweater: weeeeellll ok there's that |
| 09:29.52 | kuja | Okay nevermind. apt-get remove gdm just wants to remove gnome all together :) |
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| 09:30.01 | liable | just remove and be done with it. |
| 09:30.04 | Azar | kuja when you get time google for "apt primer" there is an article that shows you all the tricks |
| 09:30.09 | liable | kuja: no its a meat package |
| 09:30.13 | kuja | Azar: Thanks |
| 09:30.23 | liable | haha, *meta* |
| 09:30.40 | eeyore- | Coweater: but sometimes you want something quick and dirty, you know, and you don't want to update-rc.d twice to disable/re-enable it ... |
| 09:30.55 | eeyore- | Coweater: for such times, it's easier to just "exit 0" and not touch any runlevels |
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| 09:30.59 | atrus | realistically, shouldn't the meta packages do suggests/recommends anyways, so you can get the whole suite and overide things without really breaking dependancies? |
| 09:31.20 | Azar | I do not see the need of having kdm gdm or xdm running, startx can do it for me |
| 09:31.25 | atrus | eeyore-: until the package gets upgraded and overwrites your changes |
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| 09:31.48 | eeyore- | atrus: if you had to do this long enough to update the package, it's not "quick and dirty" by definition :-) |
| 09:31.53 | Azar | sometimes I think he speaks a gentoo language |
| 09:31.53 | kuja | Azar: Right, that's what I've always done. |
| 09:31.55 | liable | well, use sysvconfig or someshit then, or just remove it. |
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| 09:32.10 | eeyore- | liable: people, it's "quick and dirty" :-) |
| 09:32.18 | kuja | Azar: A dialog came up asking me which display manager I wanted to use, but not if I actually wanted to use one :) |
| 09:32.31 | Azar | none Id say |
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| 09:32.46 | kuja | It'd only say xdm or gdm, in my case :( |
| 09:32.48 | kuja | Oh well |
| 09:32.51 | kuja | Thanks for the help |
| 09:32.52 | Azar | when you need KDE you can put it back |
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| 09:33.16 | Azar | I use none: openbox only |
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| 09:33.28 | liable | kuja: what exactly do you want? |
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| 09:33.48 | kuja | Either remove gdm without effecting gnome, or just disable it. |
| 09:34.02 | Azar | gdm IS gnome |
| 09:34.05 | Azar | :) |
| 09:34.07 | eeyore- | kuja: i don't think gnome cares about gdm |
| 09:34.08 | liable | kuja: purge gdm then. "gnome" is a meta package |
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| 09:34.25 | liable | !metapackage |
| 09:34.26 | dpkg | from memory, metapackage is a package that normally exists for convenience. It has no content, it just depends on other packages so that you don't have to have a hundred things on an apt-get command line. |
| 09:34.27 | eeyore- | kuja: kdm can just as happily start gnome session, for example |
| 09:34.33 | liable | kuja: ^^ |
| 09:35.00 | kuja | The following packages will be REMOVED: |
| 09:35.01 | kuja | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:35.10 | liable | kuja: thats fine |
| 09:35.12 | eeyore- | kuja: that's okay |
| 09:35.13 | kuja | from: `apt-get remove gdm` |
| 09:35.18 | kuja | Won't GNOME get removed? |
| 09:35.21 | buu | No! |
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| 09:35.23 | kuja | The DE, I mean |
| 09:35.24 | buu | It just says it will |
| 09:35.25 | eeyore- | kuja: "gnome" is just metapackage |
| 09:35.26 | buu | But it LIES |
| 09:35.30 | eeyore- | kuja: yoohoo |
| 09:35.31 | kuja | oh, lmao |
| 09:35.40 | liable | kuja: did you actually read anything I HAVE SAID TO YOUY? |
| 09:35.49 | liable | meh, caps lock.. |
| 09:35.53 | eeyore- | kuja: i.e., you can "apt-get install gnome" (wait a looooooong time) and "apt-get remove gnome" (and wait seconds) |
| 09:35.58 | kuja | liable: Amongst reading that, I couldn't get what apt said out of my head. |
| 09:36.01 | kuja | It's confuzzling :) |
| 09:36.13 | kuja | I got it |
| 09:36.14 | kuja | Thanks |
| 09:36.19 | Azar | kuja try openbox instead |
| 09:36.24 | liable | kuja: just remove it *trust us* :) |
| 09:36.24 | eeyore- | Azar: wimp |
| 09:36.36 | buu | kuja: Install ratpoison instead |
| 09:36.40 | kuja | liable: Done. Thanks |
| 09:36.40 | Azar | eeyore-: gotcha |
| 09:36.41 | buu | Then you'll have a real windo manager |
| 09:36.49 | kuja | Define "real" |
| 09:36.55 | buu | real = ratpoison |
| 09:36.57 | buu | duh |
| 09:37.06 | kuja | Sounds like MS philosophy. |
| 09:37.10 | buu | =[ |
| 09:37.12 | kuja | This = that, no questions asked :) |
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| 09:38.09 | buu | Look, if you don't convert now, when you die you'll burn in hell. |
| 09:38.13 | eeyore- | is it just me or is the latest harry potter movie just BAD? |
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| 09:38.37 | kuja | buu: Right, but I'll never die :P |
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| 09:38.39 | eeyore- | everybody acted so god damn angry. what's up with the new dumbledore? he rushed through his lines he's always spitting his words |
| 09:38.51 | buu | eeyore-: He saw his paycheck |
| 09:38.51 | kuja | Did the old Dumbledore die? :P |
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| 09:39.03 | Nikita | òÕÓÓËÉÅ ÅÓÔØ? |
| 09:39.04 | eeyore- | kuja: ya |
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| 09:39.08 | Azar | kuja, look, no gnome, no KDE: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/gkrellShoot_12-29-05_204053.jpg |
| 09:39.33 | kuja | Azar: No likey :) |
| 09:39.48 | Azar | :) ok |
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| 09:40.03 | Nikita | çÄÅ ×ÚÑÔØ java ÄÌÑ ëÎÏÐÐÉËÓÁ? |
| 09:40.07 | buu | But seriously, who enjoys constantly having to reach over to hit the mouse, just to control their basic windows? |
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| 09:40.11 | Nikita | é ÓËÏÌØËÏ ×ÅÓÉÔ... |
| 09:40.15 | kuja | Whew, setup Debian on a damn 10GB drive... damn girlfriend is hogging the 40GB with Windows XP :( |
| 09:40.27 | buu | kuja: Ductape and a pickaxe handle |
| 09:40.31 | Azar | wow what language is that? |
| 09:40.42 | Nikita | Russian |
| 09:40.42 | eeyore- | kuja: remove her boot.ini file |
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| 09:40.48 | kuja | lol |
| 09:40.58 | Nikita | boot.ini rulezzz |
| 09:41.06 | kuja | I wonder if I could partition my Windows disk without losing any data |
| 09:41.07 | Azar | :) hi Nikita |
| 09:41.12 | eeyore- | kuja: attr -s -h -a c:\boot.ini; del c:\boot.ini |
| 09:41.19 | Nikita | hi |
| 09:41.23 | kuja | So I can restructure my Debian setup |
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| 09:41.36 | eeyore- | "gee honey, i have no idea what happened" |
| 09:41.40 | kuja | eeyore-: Yeah, but then she'll ask me to fix it :P |
| 09:42.03 | kuja | She's using Windows cause of some stuff that won't run on Linux :( |
| 09:42.16 | kuja | She's gladly move if there's a garauntee that all the stuff she uses on Windows would work on Linux :P |
| 09:42.23 | kuja | s/'s/'d/ |
| 09:42.29 | eeyore- | kuja: s'okay, just point her MSIE homepage to tubgirl |
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| 09:43.03 | kuja | lol |
| 09:43.07 | Nikita | What better, linux or windows or menuet? |
| 09:43.12 | kuja | It's already pointed to naver.com, I'm not getting in her way :P |
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| 09:43.35 | eeyore- | Nikita: how much do you pay for my opinion? |
| 09:43.37 | kuja | I'm so lazy of compiling now, so I live off of apt too... so lazy of life :( |
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| 09:44.22 | Nikita | eeyore: 5 rubles :) |
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| 09:44.30 | Azar | strange, nobody mentions anymore BSD nowadays |
| 09:44.32 | boborosso | Nikita, OSX, of course :) |
| 09:44.36 | Malagmyr | How can I get simple stats like CPU make and model, amount of memory and stuff about a machine? |
| 09:44.45 | TBBle | What's menuet? |
| 09:44.58 | Nikita | MenuetOS |
| 09:45.08 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: cat /proc/cpuinfo; free |
| 09:45.09 | Azar | Malagmyr: GXproc |
| 09:45.19 | Azar | free too |
| 09:45.21 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: dmidecode |
| 09:45.21 | Malagmyr | thx |
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| 09:45.46 | Azar | eeyore-: you will get spanked by the ircdebiangods |
| 09:45.48 | eeyore- | Azar: no, "free" as in the command |
| 09:46.04 | eeyore- | Azar: what the heck are you talking about? |
| 09:46.07 | Azar | eeyore-: free as in the click here |
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| 09:46.46 | Azar | eeyore-: nothing, I was just thinking out loud |
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| 09:48.01 | eeyore- | night |
| 09:48.06 | Azar | night |
| 09:48.22 | Azar | ..neeko |
| 09:48.25 | boborosso | it's 11am here ;) |
| 09:48.43 | Azar | 1:50 here |
| 09:48.47 | eeyore- | who the hell is neeko |
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| 09:48.57 | Azar | I thought is you |
| 09:49.01 | kuja | What does a testing/main listing mean? |
| 09:49.11 | kuja | Is that stable packages? |
| 09:49.17 | Azar | kuja testing is Etch, not Sarge |
| 09:49.35 | kuja | Funny, I've got sarge installed :P |
| 09:49.36 | Azar | testing is.. a bit stable a bit unstable |
| 09:49.51 | Azar | haha? |
| 09:49.54 | kuja | -_-; |
| 09:49.57 | kuja | Maybe not? :S |
| 09:49.59 | simonrvn | wtf is a neeko? |
| 09:50.04 | Azar | Sarge installer puts testing pointer in your sources? |
| 09:50.07 | boborosso | kuja if you track testing you got to etch when sarge become stable |
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| 09:50.30 | kuja | This is an image from around January of 2005 |
| 09:50.38 | Azar | simonrvn: neeko is a friend of mine that sometimes uses eeyore as nick on other servers |
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| 09:50.57 | boborosso | kuja at the time sarge was testing |
| 09:51.04 | jbmigel | anyone here know if i can edit my powernow config and setup some on demand overclocking? |
| 09:51.05 | kuja | ah |
| 09:51.06 | kuja | I see |
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| 09:51.14 | Azar | kuja, ouch, you were using testing to use Sarge, and you never changed the sources, now you are running Etch |
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| 09:51.17 | kuja | boborosso: If I do a dist-upgrade and run base-config would anything change? |
| 09:51.37 | Azar | kuja you cannot "go back" |
| 09:51.40 | Deviad | Can anyone tell me how to fix a bug whereby I don't get the carriage return in the first line of a graphic terminal having bash shell? |
| 09:51.55 | kuja | Azar: So hm... |
| 09:52.09 | Qzxc | i need to accses my reisfs partions from Xp how can i do it ? |
| 09:52.10 | kuja | I guess I'm stuck with this.. |
| 09:52.20 | Azar | kuja: yep reinstall and make sure your sources stay with Sarge instead of "stable" or "testing" |
| 09:52.21 | boborosso | setting priorities for stable packages and doing a dist-upgrade might help, what do you think azar? |
| 09:52.29 | TTT | jbmigel: that would be interesting. I doubt it is possible though |
| 09:52.40 | kuja | Azar: Reinstalling will be a pain, so I'll just stick with this. |
| 09:52.45 | Azar | I allways prefer to use the version "name" rather than "status" |
| 09:53.07 | I4NI | I agree Azar |
| 09:53.09 | Azar | kuja it is said that Sarge installer is easy. I still use Woody then upgrade to Sarge |
| 09:53.09 | kuja | How do I have totally unstable packages listed? |
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| 09:54.12 | Azar | well good night honorables is past my bed time anyways... |
| 09:54.56 | Qzxc | i need to accses my linux parttions from windwos how can i do it ? |
| 09:54.58 | boborosso | kuja do you want to have unstable packages listed, too? then add the unstable lines in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 09:55.22 | kuja | boborosso: Yep, I want PHP5.1 (which is really stable in the PHP world) |
| 09:55.26 | TTT | Qzxc: you can read from linux partitions (ext2/ext3) with explore2fs |
| 09:55.45 | TTT | Qzxc: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/explore2fs.htm |
| 09:55.47 | force | hi, i don't have a /dev/mixer even though i've enabled alsa's oss mixer api and the oss pcm api, lspci outputs 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03), what should i do to fix this? |
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| 09:55.51 | boborosso | Qzxc i think it depends on which filesystem your linux partition are formatted with |
| 09:55.55 | Qzxc | TTT: 10x what about reisfs ? |
| 09:56.04 | simonrvn | stable in the php world is what in the real world? |
| 09:56.19 | TTT | Qzxc: probably no such luck. I cannot find any tools to access my XFS either |
| 09:56.39 | Qzxc | <boborosso>: reisfs |
| 09:56.54 | kuja | boborosso: Rather than tinkering with sources.list, is it possible to get a one-time listing? |
| 09:57.11 | Qzxc | <TTT>: 10x ... |
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| 09:57.43 | Qzxc | 10 mins in xp and i allready got spyware (thru IE) |
| 09:58.03 | I4NI | what kind of spyware? |
| 09:58.08 | TBBle | "Windows Update"? |
| 09:58.09 | boborosso | kuja you can add, peek with aptitude, and reload the old sources.list, no prob unless you do an upgrade |
| 09:58.13 | simonrvn | does it matter? |
| 09:58.52 | kuja | Hm, odd, trying to get into an GUI editor from root but it doesn't use my user's display |
| 09:59.12 | I4NI | if its just a tracking cookie or something, no big deal |
| 09:59.12 | boborosso | Qzxc, i dunno about reading reiserfs under windows sorry |
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| 09:59.15 | TTT | kuja: nothing odd, root has it's own display. try export DISPLAY=:0 |
| 09:59.26 | simonrvn | TBBle: windows update and sp2 |
| 09:59.28 | TBBle | kuja: gksu, or play with DISPLAY=:0 and XAUTH. |
| 09:59.40 | TTT | kuja: but then root won't have rights to access your display, so as TBBle said, play with xauth |
| 09:59.59 | boborosso | kuja, there is also a handy "sux" utility works as su but works for X apps |
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| 10:00.17 | kuja | Thanks |
| 10:00.29 | TBBle | Oh, sux? I should look at that. |
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| 10:00.37 | dreamboat | hi all |
| 10:00.37 | boborosso | so "kuja sux at this" would have been right |
| 10:00.45 | kuja | =( |
| 10:00.49 | boborosso | TBBle, i recommend it, seriously :) |
| 10:00.58 | boborosso | kuja i was joking |
| 10:01.04 | kuja | I know =) |
| 10:01.11 | kuja | =( means, "damn, no come back" :) |
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| 10:01.39 | de-almasy | hello, what pkg contains this utility: xsltproc |
| 10:01.55 | repp | de-almasy: dpkg -S xsltproc |
| 10:02.15 | repp | erm, *cough* |
| 10:02.32 | de-almasy | err, i dont have it installed yet |
| 10:02.42 | de-almasy | because im getting xlstproc: command not found |
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| 10:02.57 | boborosso | de-almasy, that might be the reason indeed |
| 10:03.03 | kuja | Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed. |
| 10:03.25 | kuja | And with sux I get: Unknown id: eval $TERM; exec env TERM='xterm' DISPLAY=':0' "gedit" "/etc/apt/sources.list"; |
| 10:03.27 | de-almasy | err no,.. i wanted to compile a docbook, and the make cant find that command. thus i want to know which pkg to intall |
| 10:03.33 | de-almasy | s/intall/install |
| 10:03.38 | TTT | de-almasy: i usually grab Contents-i386.gz from nearest debian mirrors and grep for files in there |
| 10:03.38 | kapil | de-almasy: xsltproc |
| 10:03.48 | de-almasy | hui? |
| 10:04.00 | repp | de-almasy: yeah, just apt-get install xsltproc |
| 10:04.04 | de-almasy | ugh |
| 10:04.08 | de-almasy | *hit self in the head* |
| 10:04.20 | TTT | btw, repp is right, there is a package called xsltproc :) |
| 10:04.32 | de-almasy | somehow i thought that thing is obscured somewhere in another pkg dang it. |
| 10:04.32 | TTT | and it has an executable file xsltproc |
| 10:04.36 | repp | kapil said it first |
| 10:04.37 | force | hi, i don't have a /dev/mixer even though i've enabled alsa's oss mixer api and the oss pcm api, lspci outputs 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03), what should i do to fix this? |
| 10:04.49 | Dewi | sorry about the OT, but does anyone know why a mysql instance would refuse to let me in despite starting it with "--skip-grant-tables"? |
| 10:05.16 | de-almasy | thanks guys |
| 10:05.19 | boborosso | kuja not that it is as effective as in the windows world but i'd reboot :) |
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| 10:05.27 | kuja | =P |
| 10:05.37 | I4NI | gasp not a reboot |
| 10:05.47 | kapil | force: you can always do mknod /dev/mixer c 14 0 |
| 10:05.56 | kuja | meh :P |
| 10:06.16 | boborosso | I4NI, maybe he messed with some env variable, so better to reboot and see what happens |
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| 10:06.41 | kapil | boborosso: messing with an environment variable you logout-to-login. |
| 10:07.03 | kapil | boborosso: or better still start a new shell. |
| 10:07.19 | boborosso | even if the env var are exported, kapil? |
| 10:07.34 | simonrvn | the only effective reboot in "the windows world" is one that permanent to linux or other free *nix |
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| 10:08.08 | mkl1525 | Hi, since yesterday I get "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.de.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F" so is there any way to get the public key ( running apt-get update again as suggested doesn't help) |
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| 10:08.58 | simonrvn | !topicsmite mkl1525 |
| 10:08.58 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon mkl1525. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 10:09.01 | kapil | boborosso: you can su to another user (root?) to avoid passing environment variables |
| 10:09.45 | I4NI | they need one of those topic smiters in #exim |
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| 10:11.11 | simonrvn | they need one in every channel |
| 10:11.58 | simonrvn | oh good, you called it ignorance instead of stupidity |
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| 10:12.54 | mkl1525 | I4NI, it's the right torture for stupid questions |
| 10:13.18 | I4NI | oh good, your not actually running exchange |
| 10:13.22 | I4NI | phew |
| 10:14.13 | g0th | hi, using aptitude, is it possible to display the source that will be used to download the package? |
| 10:14.46 | g0th | atm I only see "unstable/experimental/etc" but not the source. I got _a lot_ of sources for "unstable" stuff |
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| 10:15.15 | I4NI | dont run irc as root |
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| 10:16.12 | g0th | me? |
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| 10:16.22 | g0th | ahh |
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| 10:16.33 | don | i need help |
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| 10:16.38 | I4NI | not you |
| 10:17.02 | noiesmo | don, we cant help if you dont ask ? |
| 10:17.15 | don | i have installed debian but i can not start gnome because i dont know the required packages |
| 10:17.16 | simonrvn | !ask |
| 10:17.16 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 10:17.56 | don | apt-get says that it can not find xserver-xorg (that one i remember) |
| 10:18.20 | simonrvn | !version |
| 10:18.20 | dpkg | Kernel: uname -r. Debian: cat /etc/debian_version. Package: dpkg -l _pkgname_. Miscellaneous: try --version on the command. check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 10:18.23 | valdyn | don: apt-get install x-window-system-core gnome |
| 10:19.18 | I4NI | tasksel gives you all the bells and whistles |
| 10:19.47 | simonrvn | *ding* *whistle* |
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| 10:21.19 | noiesmo | vnc vs rdp which is more secure? |
| 10:22.03 | don | but is there xserver-xorg package |
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| 10:23.15 | g0th | I try again: I'd like aptitude to print more about the archive used then the stuff that's printed with "%t" (which is e.g. just "unstable") in order to know from which archive the package will actually be downloaded.... |
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| 10:23.49 | g0th | one way might be to add %m for maintainer, but then the output gets kind of bloated.... |
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| 10:24.12 | nkuttler | g0th: apt-cache policy? |
| 10:25.00 | g0th | hmm? |
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| 10:26.03 | g0th | sorry, I'm not a psych, what do you mean by "apt-cache policy"? |
| 10:26.09 | lamp___ | what is the package for composite |
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| 10:27.13 | StuckMojo | hi. there's a broken package that i want to make apt-get download anyway. can't quite figure it out...i'm trying install -d --ignore-missing but it still won't download it due to an uninstallable dep |
| 10:27.28 | Guerin | StuckMojo: aptitude -d |
| 10:27.31 | g0th | What I'd like to display there would be the server, ie. eg. http://debian.ethz.ch/ |
| 10:27.36 | nkuttler | g0th: man apt-cache helps i guess |
| 10:27.45 | g0th | I tried that one, but I still don't follow |
| 10:27.48 | StuckMojo | Guerin it's not possible with apt-get? |
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| 10:28.08 | StuckMojo | Guerin now it's more of a puzzle than anything else ;) |
| 10:28.13 | g0th | aso |
| 10:28.20 | don | does anybody have a link to a site with the latest debian sources to paste in my apt sources.list to get stable packages with xserver-xorg for now i am using deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main non-free contrib and the default bulgarian sources |
| 10:28.24 | g0th | nkuttler: ok, but can this information be shown in aptitude? |
| 10:28.29 | Guerin | StuckMojo: dunno, I try not to do things the hard way if there's an easy way. |
| 10:28.54 | Guerin | don: /topic |
| 10:29.03 | g0th | hmm, or do I have to use apt-cache each time? |
| 10:29.18 | g0th | can I eg. sort my package by the server used? |
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| 10:29.38 | StuckMojo | Guerin can that be done with synaptic? |
| 10:29.41 | don | you mean i should change the topic? |
| 10:29.51 | Guerin | g0th: if you don't know what's in your sources.list and apt preferences, you shouldn't be using more than one source |
| 10:29.59 | Guerin | StuckMojo: see my previous answer. |
| 10:30.09 | Guerin | don: i mean you should READ the fucking thing |
| 10:30.18 | don | sorry |
| 10:30.21 | g0th | Guerin: I know it, but there are _a lot_ of double information |
| 10:30.26 | StuckMojo | Guerin mmmph. ok |
| 10:30.37 | g0th | so it would be nice to know which source will actually be used |
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| 10:30.52 | Guerin | g0th: again: you can know this from the output of apt-cache policy; |
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| 10:31.08 | g0th | so it's not possible in aptitude? |
| 10:31.18 | concept10 | If I remove the mysql deb, will it drop my databases? |
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| 10:31.40 | Guerin | g0th: i don't know. |
| 10:31.52 | g0th | ok, thanks |
| 10:31.56 | Guerin | concept10: only if you purge, and only if you've told debconf that's what you want to do. |
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| 10:33.08 | concept10 | Guerin, alright, thanks. Do you know much about mysql? I always get errors when importing schemas with DEFAULT CHARSET=latin1 |
| 10:33.18 | concept10 | I might have to upgrade |
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| 10:33.34 | Guerin | concept10: i make a point of knowing as little as possible about mysql. |
| 10:33.39 | Guerin | of *sql |
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| 10:35.10 | concept10 | Guerin, why is that (curious) |
| 10:35.39 | StuckMojo | Guerin know off the top of your head how to keep aptitude from removing unused packages when you do an install of something? |
| 10:35.40 | don | i dont understand what that busted ass topic means |
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| 10:36.09 | Guerin | concept10: don't need to know it, more important things to learn about. |
| 10:36.17 | StuckMojo | now i remember why i stopped using aptitude. does too much stuff i don't want by default...like installing recommends and removing stuff i didn't ask it to |
| 10:36.18 | Guerin | StuckMojo: it's definable in aptitude's config |
| 10:36.51 | StuckMojo | where is that? there's no /etc/aptitude |
| 10:36.53 | zh_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.58 | Guerin | don: what is busted ass about ' X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge' |
| 10:37.01 | nima | whats a good video player that isnt xine based, that will play divx? |
| 10:37.05 | StuckMojo | sorry, i don't usually use it. doesn't mention it at the bottom of the man page |
| 10:37.42 | kapil | StuckMojo: use the options menu in aptitude and configure the dependency options |
| 10:38.06 | don | what is that, i typed it in the console as root but nothing happens |
| 10:38.09 | Guerin | StuckMojo: config file is in ~ |
| 10:38.11 | StuckMojo | kapil ah. i wasn't using the curses interfiace |
| 10:38.16 | StuckMojo | Guerin thx |
| 10:38.20 | Guerin | StuckMojo: where all config files should be |
| 10:38.25 | Guerin | well, not ALL |
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| 10:38.29 | kapil | StuckMojo: in which case look at ~/.aptitude/ |
| 10:38.34 | nima | anyone? |
| 10:38.35 | kuja | How do I permanently set $PATH? |
| 10:38.41 | noiesmo | nima, mplayer |
| 10:38.41 | boborosso | nima mplayer is not in official debian package rep but might be what you seek |
| 10:38.47 | Guerin | kuja: export PATH= |
| 10:38.51 | don | i dont know what that means |
| 10:38.58 | Guerin | kuja: or put it in your bashrc and/ profile |
| 10:39.00 | kuja | Guerin: Permanently, like not throughout the term's lifetime |
| 10:39.02 | Guerin | and/or |
| 10:39.04 | kuja | Only way? |
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| 10:39.10 | nima | what was the repository that had it? |
| 10:39.12 | StuckMojo | guess that makes sense, heh. just was counterinuitive for some reason. i spose cus it's a system tool |
| 10:39.15 | StuckMojo | thanks again |
| 10:39.16 | Guerin | !marillat |
| 10:39.17 | dpkg | hmm... marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 10:39.19 | nima | thanks |
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| 10:39.44 | quasisane | nima: vlc also works very well |
| 10:40.03 | nvz | nima: apt-get.org has a search engine for unofficial repositories of debian packages |
| 10:40.14 | nima | thanks |
| 10:40.24 | nvz | nima: if you need to find a source in the future.. and packages.debian.org has the official package search |
| 10:40.40 | kapil | quasisane: i couldn't get the etch version of vlc working as well as the etch version of gxine. |
| 10:41.00 | don | usually i am using IRC as source of mp3's and i dont know all the theory |
| 10:41.07 | nvz | kapil: whats the problem? |
| 10:41.10 | kapil | quasisane: esp. sound. |
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| 10:41.58 | quasisane | kapil: using the experimental version here, works fine for almost everything i throw at it |
| 10:41.59 | kapil | nvz: the sound was stacatto. i need to check my config before i can file a bug. |
| 10:42.02 | lighto | Can I out grub on a ntfs partition? |
| 10:42.05 | Guerin | don: type /msg dpkg xorg sarge |
| 10:42.06 | lighto | *put |
| 10:42.23 | nvz | kapil: heh. that only happenson those apps? |
| 10:43.01 | nvz | kapil: I would check first to make sure they arent eating up memory or cpu and causing it to skip.. maybe causing a race condition |
| 10:43.11 | Guerin | lighto: grub installs to the MBR, so it doesn't care about rthe filesystem on the rest of the drive |
| 10:43.16 | don | engaging links (10x) |
| 10:43.37 | lighto | Guerin: not even if I create a /boot partition? |
| 10:44.04 | Guerin | lighto: well, you need to have a boot partition someplace in your unix install, and the grub MBR needs to know where to find it |
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| 10:46.23 | marcelolaia | Hi all! |
| 10:46.49 | marcelolaia | How I change the root PATH when I use su? |
| 10:46.55 | lighto | Guerin: well I got this problem that I got a 160Gb hdd, then there is a big ntfs partition and I got an opsys in the end, but it wont boot because BIOS doesnt support that big hdd and it refuses to read it from the end so I was wondering if I could put grub on that ntfs |
| 10:47.06 | marcelolaia | I need to do this in the shell. |
| 10:47.36 | Guerin | lighto: nope. You're screwed. |
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| 10:48.02 | Guerin | lighto: well, hrm. You might be able to use cygwin grub from within windows |
| 10:48.14 | marcelolaia | I am logged with normal user and I need to change the PATH ´s root in the shell |
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| 10:48.32 | Guerin | lighto: the main issue is that debian grub will at times need to write to the partition, and that's not possible under ntfs |
| 10:49.25 | StuckMojo | Guerin aptitude -d won't do it |
| 10:49.26 | lighto | Guerin: why does it need to write to the partition |
| 10:49.32 | dselect | any 'debian way' to hardening multiuser environment ? |
| 10:49.37 | Guerin | StuckMojo: yes, it will. |
| 10:49.46 | Guerin | dselect: install harden-doc |
| 10:49.55 | noiesmo | lighto, you could through a small old hd for /boot partition not the neats way |
| 10:50.02 | StuckMojo | Guerin it says can't resolve deps, giviing up |
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| 10:50.14 | Guerin | lighto: debian's kernel install scripts write to the grub config file |
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| 10:50.25 | StuckMojo | Guerin http://rafb.net/paste/results/mBcmCc93.html |
| 10:50.30 | Guerin | StuckMojo: man apt_preferences |
| 10:50.38 | kapil | lighto: you might be able to access the drive using a qemu boot of debian if NT allows you "raw" access to the drive. but be careful ... very careful ... |
| 10:50.48 | liable | bah, power outage on a 30C night.. :( |
| 10:51.20 | lighto | kapil: sounds difficult |
| 10:51.49 | Guerin | lighto: you're better off just nuking the ntfs |
| 10:52.19 | marcelolaia | I am sorry, but, is there a way for change the root' PATH in shell by a normal user using su??? |
| 10:52.33 | Guerin | lighto: see if there's grub for windows/cygwin |
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| 10:52.35 | lighto | Guerin: ro I could just move the ntfs partition to the further end of the hard drive and create the boot partition/install OS there |
| 10:52.55 | Guerin | lighto: meh, might as well just nuke the damn thing. |
| 10:53.01 | liable | there is grub for windows.. sec |
| 10:53.38 | liable | http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html#grub-for-nt |
| 10:53.46 | lighto | Guerin: I need that partition |
| 10:53.55 | marcelolaia | I accidently removed the sysvinit and now, when I try to install it again, I receive a message form dpkg: the PATH is incorrect |
| 10:53.59 | Guerin | lighto: you poor bastard |
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| 10:54.54 | Miesco | I got a package that I downloaded because its a newer version then the one I got from apt, how would I upgrade, delete the other one, then install, or is there another way? |
| 10:55.17 | don | ok i found the packages... but what line i must add to the sources list to get them with apt-get |
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| 10:55.40 | Guerin | don: if it's not documented on the site, we can't tell you |
| 10:55.41 | don | or i should download them and install manualy |
| 10:55.47 | liable | Miesco: dpkg -i foo.deb, and have fun with dependancies |
| 10:55.48 | don | ok |
| 10:55.51 | Guerin | don: no. You'll need a sources.list line |
| 10:56.22 | Miesco | liable: Why is there dependancies |
| 10:56.46 | liable | Miesco: to make your life miserable? |
| 10:56.53 | Guerin | Miesco: because programs don't exist in a vacuum |
| 10:57.01 | Miesco | liable: How did you know there would be dependancies |
| 10:57.02 | Guerin | and aren't all built statically, like on windows |
| 10:57.06 | liable | Miesco: you may well be lucky and the package doesnt have any |
| 10:57.32 | Miesco | Well, I have the older version, so thats why I am wondering |
| 10:57.33 | don | it was written right there but i was supposed to read first before asking... |
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| 10:58.04 | lighto | liable: but when It wont file the boot.ini file grub wont load |
| 10:58.41 | liable | lighto: sorry i just joined and missed the whole convo, thought that the link may help |
| 10:58.59 | lighto | hey no problem |
| 10:59.04 | lighto | I just try to move the ntfs |
| 10:59.33 | Miesco | How do I use dpkg to automatically get dependancies |
| 10:59.44 | liable | you dont.. |
| 10:59.46 | Guerin | Miesco: use apt-get or aptitude |
| 10:59.49 | Guerin | !fundamentals |
| 10:59.49 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 11:00.04 | Miesco | How do I use apt-get for a file that I dont have in the cache |
| 11:00.26 | Guerin | Miesco: add a sources.list line for it |
| 11:00.27 | javad | get more reps |
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| 11:00.39 | blaamann | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:00.41 | javad | or just dpkg -i it |
| 11:00.45 | Guerin | if you can't find a sources.list line, you don't need it as much as you think you do |
| 11:01.01 | Miesco | Guerin, hmm? |
| 11:01.02 | javad | if you cant find its .deb |
| 11:01.07 | liable | Miesco: what is this package anyway? |
| 11:01.08 | javad | then apt-get install alien |
| 11:01.12 | Miesco | amsn |
| 11:01.12 | don | success (happy) |
| 11:01.12 | javad | and look for its rpm |
| 11:01.13 | Guerin | no |
| 11:01.15 | javad | alien the rpm |
| 11:01.20 | javad | and dpkg -i |
| 11:01.25 | Miesco | its a deb |
| 11:01.28 | Guerin | javad: no, that's amazingly stupid, and won't resolve the dependency problems |
| 11:01.34 | javad | lol |
| 11:01.41 | javad | well, install all the dependencies |
| 11:01.51 | javad | see? its a last resort |
| 11:01.52 | Guerin | javad: but he doesn't know what they are |
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| 11:02.00 | javad | my bad |
| 11:02.01 | Guerin | javad: you're stupid, and not helping. |
| 11:02.03 | Miesco | Guerin: You can add a line to sources.list for a local directory? |
| 11:02.09 | Miesco | I have tried that, but it didn't work |
| 11:02.10 | Guerin | Miesco: sure. |
| 11:02.22 | Miesco | Dont you need a text file with all the file names and stuff |
| 11:02.35 | Guerin | Miesco: yes. |
| 11:02.36 | javad | what is it that you are trying to apt-get |
| 11:02.41 | liable | Miesco: just be happy with the version you have. (untill you learn more about apt, etc..) |
| 11:02.44 | Miesco | amsn |
| 11:02.56 | Miesco | But it keeps bugging me to upgrade :/ |
| 11:03.02 | Guerin | Miesco: AMSN is in debian, ffs |
| 11:03.19 | Miesco | I know, but the new one isn't in t he repitrior |
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| 11:03.27 | Guerin | Miesco: sucks to be you. |
| 11:03.45 | blaamann | Miesco: Maybe you can turn of the newest version check ? |
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| 11:03.59 | javad | yea |
| 11:04.03 | javad | go to synaptic |
| 11:04.06 | javad | click the package |
| 11:04.16 | javad | Package->Lock Version |
| 11:04.17 | noiesmo | Miesco, if you have deb packages use dpkg -i packname.deb |
| 11:04.33 | Miesco | It gots dependencies |
| 11:04.36 | Guerin | fuck's sakes |
| 11:04.43 | liable | Miesco: so, apart from it telling you you need a new version, you like it? then ignore the fucker. |
| 11:04.49 | Guerin | can all you people without the faintest idea please shut up? |
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| 11:05.10 | javad | alright. i have i have an idea |
| 11:05.10 | Miesco | Well I dont know what the new version has, could have a bunch of cool stuff |
| 11:05.19 | Guerin | installing random individual packages is a FUCKING STUPID IDEA |
| 11:05.29 | bizkit | may i use dynamic dns entries in hosts.allow/hosts.deny? |
| 11:05.32 | Guerin | Miesco: just ignore it and use the one you have |
| 11:05.42 | Miesco | But I want to learn how to do this |
| 11:05.52 | Guerin | Miesco: there's nothing to learn. |
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| 11:05.55 | liable | Miesco: no you really dont |
| 11:06.03 | rilat | hi. what shall I do if I want to intall a package that depends of another one that is mark as 'Package not available'? |
| 11:06.10 | Miesco | The new version is for debian untested? |
| 11:06.25 | liable | meh |
| 11:06.37 | Guerin | Miesco: the new version is not in your branch of debian; thus you can't install it without upgrading your whole system, which you don't want to do. |
| 11:06.54 | Deleter | What's with that packages.debian.org? Is OpenOffice.org 2 in testing now, or is it just my ISP repository? |
| 11:06.56 | Miesco | So its for like etch or something? |
| 11:07.07 | Guerin | rilat: stop using unstable or testing |
| 11:07.10 | Guerin | Miesco: maybe. |
| 11:07.20 | Miesco | Okay |
| 11:07.43 | repp | upgrading to etch is a good thing |
| 11:08.08 | liable | Miesco: apt works really well, if you want to break stuff, then try and install it with dpkg and all its deps. |
| 11:08.08 | Guerin | repp: not if you're unable to handle broken packages, it ain't. |
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| 11:08.17 | liable | repp: dont say that |
| 11:08.22 | kilo | Does anyone have any problems with gnomes inbox monitor, as soon as I enter my POP3 details it crashes. |
| 11:08.27 | rilat | Guerin, but I've already done apt-get dist-upgrade. any problem? |
| 11:08.39 | Deleter | repp: I'm using etch and audio players are not stable. |
| 11:08.43 | repp | Guerin: well, you have a good point, but there is a practical limit to how strict Miesco should be |
| 11:09.03 | Guerin | rilat: just wait. Sometimes things just break. Check the BTS and file a bug if there's not one already. |
| 11:09.19 | liable | repp: well, you walk him through it then, we'll see you in a couple o hours. |
| 11:09.50 | repp | yeah it's late, i don't feel like hand-holding either |
| 11:09.55 | Guerin | repp: yeah. He's a great example of someone who needs someone to change his root password. Once he can figure out how to change it back on his own, he'll be ready to do what he wants, and godspeed to him. |
| 11:10.00 | Guerin | or her. |
| 11:10.06 | rilat | Guerin, I'll do that, thanks |
| 11:10.17 | Miesco | me? |
| 11:10.21 | Miesco | Are you talking about me? |
| 11:10.26 | repp | yeah, you, Miesco |
| 11:10.30 | Miesco | Damb |
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| 11:10.38 | bunga | hi how to change time ? |
| 11:10.46 | Miesco | I thought it wasn't good for my debian version |
| 11:10.46 | repp | bunga: date |
| 11:10.48 | bunga | with command |
| 11:10.51 | bunga | ya date |
| 11:11.14 | Miesco | You mean I can get it with sarge? |
| 11:11.40 | liable | Miesco: what? |
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| 11:11.44 | don | what is better xserver-xorg or xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:11.45 | Guerin | ... |
| 11:11.53 | Guerin | don: neither |
| 11:11.59 | don | :) |
| 11:12.01 | Miesco | Is it possible to upgrade amsn without upgrading debian? |
| 11:12.05 | Guerin | Miesco: no. |
| 11:12.16 | repp | don: xserver-xorg has newer drivers |
| 11:12.20 | Miesco | Then why are you saying all that stuff about me |
| 11:12.39 | don | Guerin: what i should use? |
| 11:12.41 | bunga | how to change Sat Jan 7 00:51:29 GMT 2006 to Sat Jan 6 06:23:00 PM 2006 |
| 11:12.46 | liable | Miesco: use your box for a while and learn some stuff, then try and break it later. :) |
| 11:12.47 | bunga | ? |
| 11:12.48 | Guerin | Miesco: you just need to learn a lot about debian before you try the sort of advanced stuff you're trying. |
| 11:12.57 | quasisane | Miesco: maybe, it depends on it's dependencies |
| 11:12.57 | Guerin | don: whatever's in the branch of debian you have installed. |
| 11:13.11 | repp | bunga: "man date" and learn about how to a) display a date you specify and b) use that date to set the system clock |
| 11:13.30 | Miesco | Okay, I dont want to do any advance stuff anyways |
| 11:13.42 | don | Guerin:what are you using :P |
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| 11:14.05 | bunga | repp no gui here i'm use console and blurrrrrrr |
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| 11:14.18 | Guerin | don: i'm using xorg, because that's what's in my distro, but I'd be just as happy running debian's xfree |
| 11:14.18 | javad | i hate dependencies |
| 11:14.18 | bunga | how to use man |
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| 11:14.28 | Guerin | javad: go use slackware |
| 11:14.32 | pngwn | bunga, man man |
| 11:14.35 | atax | hello |
| 11:14.37 | javad | what do you mean, guerin? |
| 11:14.41 | bunga | man command here |
| 11:14.43 | javad | slackware is dependency free? |
| 11:14.43 | repp | bunga: at a command line type "man man" |
| 11:14.52 | bunga | :( |
| 11:15.00 | bunga | simple how to change it |
| 11:15.12 | Guerin | javad: yes and no. There are dependencies, there's just no package management system to enforce them. |
| 11:15.15 | liable | !set the time |
| 11:15.16 | dpkg | To set the time in debian, use date --set. The truly enlightened user, however, will install ntpdate and ntp-simple to have their clock set automatically on reboot, and slewed to match time servers, respectively. You may also need to run tzconfig and make sure you have the right UTC setting in /etc/default/rcS first. |
| 11:15.26 | liable | bunga: ^^ |
| 11:15.41 | javad | hahaa |
| 11:15.42 | repp | liable: thank you for that |
| 11:15.45 | javad | no cop, no stop |
| 11:16.02 | javad | man, darwin takes forever to install |
| 11:16.08 | bunga | ehhehee wait i'll se |
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| 11:16.37 | javad | i am simultaneously(sp?) installing darwin via pearpc, downloading OSX via bittorrent, and creating an iso |
| 11:16.41 | bunga | okay can u give me one example |
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| 11:17.13 | Guerin | javad: we don't care about your 1337 w4r3z xpl01tz |
| 11:17.18 | liable | bunga: yep, sure, type this 'man date' |
| 11:17.34 | javad | i never mentioned warez, geurin |
| 11:17.40 | javad | are you fbi? |
| 11:17.50 | javad | you cant use those mind games on me |
| 11:18.11 | liable | javad: there are several of us in this channel |
| 11:18.19 | Guerin | javad: no, you mentiuoned downloading OSX on bittorrent. I wasn't aware that was a legitimate way of getting it. |
| 11:18.33 | liable | seeing as degenerates generally use open source software |
| 11:18.35 | nkuttler | javad: meh, os x via bittorrent... |
| 11:18.40 | javad | haha |
| 11:18.44 | javad | touche, guerin, touche. |
| 11:18.53 | Guerin | waste of bandwidth, anyway |
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| 11:19.08 | nkuttler | Guerin: if he had a license it could even be |
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| 11:19.53 | repp | bunga: Jan 6 is a Friday |
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| 11:20.17 | repp | was, sorry, just switched over here |
| 11:20.18 | Guerin | could be downloading the complete works of Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan instead |
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| 11:20.53 | Spliffster | someone here who understands how "bc" works. in a bash: why does the following return 1: 'echo "4 / 3" | bc' ? |
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| 11:21.14 | bunga | repp can you give me one example how to change it |
| 11:21.16 | bunga | just one |
| 11:21.31 | bunga | i'm read man |
| 11:21.36 | repp | ~$ cat .bcrc |
| 11:21.37 | bunga | and many command for it |
| 11:21.37 | repp | scale=5 |
| 11:21.37 | bunga | dunno |
| 11:21.56 | repp | Spliffster: ^^ |
| 11:22.20 | Spliffster | ty repp, will try |
| 11:22.25 | repp | bunga: date -s -d 'your date here' |
| 11:22.45 | zophyx___ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:22.50 | Spliffster | repp, ' echo "scale=5; {4/3}" | bc'. that's it. ty |
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| 11:23.00 | zophyx___ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:23.08 | repp | Spliffster: nice, I'm adding that as a comment to mine |
| 11:24.10 | repp | zophyx___: just curious, why make a font into a bitmap? |
| 11:24.27 | Spliffster | zophyx___, maybe you can generate SVG images (actually an xml language) and then convert them to jpg |
| 11:24.27 | liable | !curse nwqld's power grid |
| 11:24.27 | dpkg | May you be reincarnated as a Windows XP administrator, nwqld's power grid! |
| 11:24.28 | repp | zophyx___: outside of the gimp.. implies you want to do mass production? |
| 11:24.31 | zophyx___ | i need an image to click |
| 11:24.51 | zophyx___ | i need images of text for href's |
| 11:24.55 | nkuttler | zophyx___: iirc the wml package contains or depends on such a thing |
| 11:25.13 | unsolo | whats the name of the apache module configuration utility |
| 11:25.37 | Spliffster | zophyx___, not to mentian that converting text into images is sill (as long as you are talking about web pages .... text is searchable, much smaller, etc. |
| 11:25.39 | nkuttler | zophyx___: gfont |
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| 11:26.21 | zophyx___ | Spliffster: i need to control the presentation to the end recipient |
| 11:26.47 | Spliffster | zophyx___, what client programms are you targeting ? |
| 11:27.07 | repp | zophyx___: go svg for that if you can; if you cannot, how about pdf? pdf is easier. |
| 11:27.18 | Spliffster | or swf |
| 11:27.19 | zophyx___ | i just need an image that i can click |
| 11:27.24 | repp | svg is supported by IE & FireFox |
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| 11:27.44 | repp | er, not quite yet, hah |
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| 11:27.52 | Spliffster | zophyx___, check ImageMagick ... it should be possible to generate text in images with it ... AFAIK |
| 11:27.53 | unsolo | a2enmod |
| 11:28.13 | Spliffster | zophyx___, from the command line ... ie. in a cgi script |
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| 11:28.37 | zophyx___ | that would be a great solution |
| 11:28.38 | bunga | date --set "01/07/2006 18:30:00" format dd/mm/yyyy ?? like this |
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| 11:28.50 | bunga | sorry |
| 11:28.54 | bunga | mm/dd/yyyy |
| 11:28.55 | bunga | that |
| 11:29.05 | Spliffster | zophyx___, apt-get install ImageMagick (maybe all in lowe case) |
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| 11:29.11 | Guerin | stupidest date format ever |
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| 11:29.17 | repp | bunga: you missed the "-d" and NO not like that, do the format you posted before, only drop the day of the week. |
| 11:29.19 | bunga | doh |
| 11:29.20 | Guerin | yyyy/mm/dd pwns you all |
| 11:29.31 | blondie | yyyy-mm-dd |
| 11:29.37 | Guerin | samesame |
| 11:29.59 | repp | yeah just do yyyy-mm-dd, the one true format anyhow |
| 11:30.23 | don | i've installed xserver-xorg after that i've made apt-get install gnome and after reboot there is no GUI, after i type 'xinit' there is only black screen, did i've missed something, like display settings (for display i choosed ati(i have ATI9550)) |
| 11:30.27 | bunga | # date --set "2006/01/06 18:30:00" |
| 11:30.29 | bunga | date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted |
| 11:30.29 | bunga | Fri Jan 6 18:30:00 GMT 2006 |
| 11:30.42 | kapil | repp: yyyymmdd is valid until 99991231 |
| 11:30.45 | blondie | mm/dd/yyyy is just completely stupid |
| 11:30.57 | repp | bunga: "-d" you must include the "-d" |
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| 11:31.35 | bunga | errorrrrrrrrrrrrrrr |
| 11:31.36 | repp | blondie: it makes sense for writing but not computers, that's for sure |
| 11:31.36 | bunga | # date --set -d "2006/01/06 18:30:00" |
| 11:31.37 | bunga | date: the argument `2006/01/06 18:30:00' lacks a leading `+'; |
| 11:31.37 | bunga | When using an option to specify date(s), any non-option |
| 11:31.37 | bunga | argument must be a format string beginning with `+'. |
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| 11:31.52 | pipo99 | howdy guys |
| 11:31.54 | pipo99 | Does anyone know if Debian by default forwards ip-packages..? |
| 11:31.55 | pipo99 | I have a sarge machine with 2 nics. 1 nic has 172.16.0.1 and one has 192.168.7.1 as address |
| 11:31.57 | pipo99 | The sarge server can ping the internet which is on the 172.x side |
| 11:31.58 | pipo99 | If I try to ping from another pc in the 192.x range, I can ping the Sarge machine but not any internet address..can somebody help me..? |
| 11:32.00 | blondie | repp: it doesn't make sense for writing either |
| 11:32.10 | Guerin | pipo99: it doesn't, no. |
| 11:32.12 | repp | bunga: sorry, i should have reviewed the man page myself, -d is not needed when setting.. |
| 11:32.15 | Guerin | pipo99: install ipmasq |
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| 11:32.35 | repp | blondie: depends on your local culture, I'd argue |
| 11:32.46 | bunga | so the cmd |
| 11:32.49 | pipo99 | Guerin: thanks...Do I need to configure ipmasq? |
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| 11:33.02 | Guerin | pipo99: nope. Just install it and it should go. |
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| 11:33.16 | bunga | i wann to change 2006/01/07 18:30 PM |
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| 11:33.31 | Guerin | repp: you could also argue that using a lunar calendar makes more sense, but you'd largely be laughed at. |
| 11:33.42 | repp | bunga: use - not / |
| 11:33.47 | pipo99 | I get the question: should ppp connections recompute the firewall..? |
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| 11:34.02 | repp | Guerin: for what purpose? |
| 11:34.06 | pipo99 | no ppp connections so probably no? |
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| 11:34.14 | kapil | bunga: generally speaking it would be "06:30 PM" or "18:30" but "18:30 PM" may also work. |
| 11:34.23 | Guerin | repp: well, it depends on your local culture |
| 11:34.36 | bunga | can't |
| 11:34.38 | bunga | # date --set "2006-01-06 18:30:00" |
| 11:34.38 | bunga | date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted |
| 11:34.38 | bunga | Fri Jan 6 18:30:00 GMT 2006 |
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| 11:34.39 | metaperl | www.13moons.com www.tortuga.com are good sites explaining why lunar time makes more sense |
| 11:34.40 | Guerin | pipo99: WIDHE |
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| 11:34.56 | metaperl | maybe 13moon.com |
| 11:34.59 | pigor_ | hello - i cannot recover my evolution address book :-( |
| 11:35.21 | Guerin | metaperl: oh, i'm not saying it doesn't - just that it's not how most of the world already works, and there's not enough to be gained by changing everything. |
| 11:35.22 | repp | bunga: I think you're faking the paste and are actually not logged in as root |
| 11:35.25 | delire | anyone here managed to compile the sl-modem slamr module for an 2.6.14 with module-assistant or otherwise? |
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| 11:35.33 | pigor_ | i have installed a new linux and before saved ".evolution" but cannot recover my address book |
| 11:35.37 | bunga | what ? |
| 11:35.48 | bunga | i'm on my VPS |
| 11:35.53 | bunga | not on my home pc |
| 11:35.57 | repp | VPS? |
| 11:35.58 | liable | delire: cant use the kernel modules? |
| 11:35.59 | bunga | i'm not fake |
| 11:36.01 | azeem | pigor_: what version of evolution did you have installed before? |
| 11:36.11 | Guerin | pigor_: could be permissions, gould be version, could be anything. no way of knowing without detail. |
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| 11:36.19 | delire | liable is there a slamr in the kernel? i thought it was non-free? |
| 11:36.22 | repp | bunga: what is VPS? |
| 11:36.29 | pigor_ | azeem: the same |
| 11:36.31 | bunga | Virtual Private Server |
| 11:36.41 | delire | liable shit, you're right |
| 11:36.49 | repp | bunga: a usermode linux setup or something else? |
| 11:36.55 | bunga | not here |
| 11:37.00 | Guerin | bunga: talk to your site admin |
| 11:37.03 | repp | bunga: you probably aren't allowed to set the date if that's the case |
| 11:37.08 | bunga | it samek like VDS = virtual dedicated server |
| 11:37.12 | bunga | u now about that |
| 11:37.19 | delire | liable errm, i take that back. the module i'm looking at it is the one i just tried to compile. |
| 11:37.22 | Guerin | the date in UML is set on the host kernel, i believe |
| 11:37.32 | liable | delire: no, but my modem works with the snd-intel8x0m |
| 11:37.40 | repp | bunga: yeah virtual servers are handy but also very restrictive |
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| 11:37.47 | azeem | pigor_: you copied over the whole .evolution directory, and mails etc. are still there, but the contacts are empty? |
| 11:37.49 | delire | liable mine doesn't here. |
| 11:37.54 | repp | bunga: VMWare virtual servers are much better |
| 11:37.57 | pigor_ | Guerin: version is 2.4.11 on ubuntu - i have just installed ubuntu once again |
| 11:37.57 | liable | delire: theres also a pixx module |
| 11:38.01 | delire | liable what /dev/tty* are you on? |
| 11:38.02 | kapil | delire: if you have an intel sound card then snd-intel8x0m will work with the sl-modem-daemon package. |
| 11:38.04 | pigor_ | azeem: exactly |
| 11:38.06 | Guerin | pigor_: ask #ubuntu |
| 11:38.12 | Guerin | pigor_: this is not our problem |
| 11:38.23 | liable | delire: theres also a gcc-4.0 version of slmodem, |
| 11:38.24 | delire | kapil right, ok. i'll reinvestigate. |
| 11:38.38 | Guerin | pigor_: or ask #gnome on irc.gnome.org about which files in .evolution you can use to extract the info from manually |
| 11:38.45 | pigor_ | Guerin: sorry but ubuntu and debian are hard connected .. |
| 11:39.08 | azeem | pigor_: but different at some points |
| 11:39.08 | pigor_ | Guerin: ok .. i will try .. thanks |
| 11:39.17 | bunga | thanks |
| 11:39.18 | delire | kapil is that snd-intel8x0m or nd-intel8x0* |
| 11:39.19 | azeem | pigor_: escpecially when it comes to GNOME |
| 11:39.20 | bunga | i'm use tzconfig |
| 11:39.22 | bunga | WTF |
| 11:39.23 | delire | kapil .. snd-intel8x0* |
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| 11:39.40 | liable | delire: ttySL0 |
| 11:39.40 | kapil | pigor_: what you say may be true but does it apply to #debian and #ubuntu |
| 11:39.41 | delire | kapil i have been trying the latter |
| 11:40.01 | delire | liable right.. that fails here with snd-intel8x0. |
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| 11:40.11 | kapil | delire: snd-intel8x0m is for the modem |
| 11:40.17 | delire | liable and doesn't come up as anything else. |
| 11:40.18 | liable | delire: you been using the right device though? |
| 11:40.30 | delire | kapil ahah. cheers. i'll look into that. |
| 11:40.31 | kapil | delire: and snd-intel8x0 is for the sound. |
| 11:40.43 | liable | delire: hw:0 |
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| 11:41.06 | delire | kapil yes, i realise. i thought the same driver was used. |
| 11:41.27 | kapil | delire: i think you need to have both drivers loaded. |
| 11:41.32 | liable | you need the *m one,, |
| 11:41.34 | delire | liable looks like i need the snd-intel8x0m* |
| 11:41.51 | kapil | delire: that is if you want modem and sound. |
| 11:41.56 | delire | funnily enough it's been about 6 years since i've had to deal with modems in linux ;) |
| 11:42.03 | delire | kapil cheers |
| 11:42.04 | Guerin | heh |
| 11:42.04 | liable | didnt i say that earlier? |
| 11:42.14 | kapil | delire: unfortunately, you cannot "hear" the modem calling. |
| 11:42.14 | ladrilho | hello, I'm having problems running apt-get upgrade. It's refusing to install kdelibs-data. "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop'" |
| 11:42.18 | Guerin | i had to do modem wizardry about a year ago |
| 11:42.39 | Guerin | step 1. insert modem; step 2. configure pppd; step 3. dial. |
| 11:42.41 | delire | kapil ahah, that's a shame, diagnostically speaking. guess i'll be tailing logs ;) |
| 11:42.59 | ladrilho | I searched google and it seems this bug should have been fix already :\ |
| 11:43.09 | liable | wvdial keeps you fairly informed.. |
| 11:43.10 | kapil | for a while i didn't have to worry about modems either... phone line was out-of-order :( |
| 11:43.25 | delire | Guerin a little different with the internal [win]modems ;) |
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| 11:43.50 | Guerin | delire: oh ... you mean the ones which actually aren't modems. |
| 11:44.04 | delire | kapil i suddenly found myself in forest on the end of a phone line. had a strange 'islander' sensation ;) |
| 11:44.07 | Guerin | delire: they call them 'losemodems' |
| 11:44.14 | kapil | these damn laptops often have no way (ie no serial port) to connect a real modem. |
| 11:44.24 | Guerin | kapil: pcmcia |
| 11:44.30 | delire | Guerin yes, the dead sheep masquerading as modems. those ones. |
| 11:44.32 | Guerin | pcmcia modems are real. |
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| 11:44.53 | blondie | all modems are losemodems |
| 11:45.00 | Guerin | blondie: not at all. |
| 11:45.14 | blondie | maybe not if you like dialup :P |
| 11:45.36 | Guerin | if all you have is dialup, they're pretty much the ultimate win |
| 11:45.43 | liable | better than snail mail |
| 11:45.56 | kapil | i once had a real modem that was trying to pretend that it was a sound card. the manual said buy this wire and plug it in here and use this software and voila you can pipe your music through the serial port and hear it on the modem :) |
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| 11:47.05 | Guerin | heh |
| 11:47.25 | kapil | ... through external speakers of course. |
| 11:47.31 | delire | a member of family runs Ubuntu on a thinkpad r51e with a connexant modem. pretty much the only way to have this modem working is to shell out $US20.00 to Linuxant. |
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| 11:47.48 | Guerin | or shell out US$15 on a REAL FUCKING MODEM |
| 11:48.25 | liable | yeah, but thats another fucking thing you have to carry with you.. |
| 11:48.32 | kapil | delire: have an r51 here and the modem in "Free" (as in beer) version from Linuxant is kind of working. |
| 11:48.35 | delire | Guerin no serial port whatsoever. pcmcia modems need to be shipped, raising the cost over this. also it's another object. |
| 11:49.02 | kapil | delire: need dollars only if one wants 56K speeds and fax. |
| 11:49.03 | delire | kapil they were getting connection dropping often with the 14.4kbps |
| 11:49.08 | faif | hello everyone, how can I remove all the kde packages and the enviroment |
| 11:49.11 | faif | hello everyone, how can I remove all the kde packages and the enviroment? |
| 11:49.21 | delire | faif dpkg -P kde-base i would imagine |
| 11:49.33 | liable | !remove kde |
| 11:49.34 | dpkg | i guess remove kde is apt-get --purge remove kdelibs3 kdelibs4 (or ask me about "install kde") |
| 11:49.36 | Guerin | delire: haha. |
| 11:49.46 | delire | kapil do you think the 'free' version is crippled in more ways than one? |
| 11:49.53 | faif | thanks |
| 11:49.54 | kapil | once i decide on spending the dollars i will follow guerin's suggestion and get a pcmcia real modem. |
| 11:50.07 | liable | i get 56k with my stinkpad with the slmodem package |
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| 11:50.21 | delire | liable what chipset? |
| 11:50.22 | kapil | delire: no problems with it so far. but i only use it to download mail. |
| 11:50.30 | delire | kapil right, interesting |
| 11:50.42 | liable | delire: agere |
| 11:51.12 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i need to reinstall my windows on box, where i have debian too, but i know, that reinstalling will overwrite grub, can anyone tell me, how to repair it after windows installation ? |
| 11:51.24 | xaxes|free | @work |
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| 11:51.51 | delire | liable right, the R51e has the annoying: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki?title=IBM_Integrated_56K_Modem_(MDC-2)&redirect=no |
| 11:52.22 | liable | delire: they are all annoying.. |
| 11:52.27 | delire | liable shared by a few other models. why do you say 'stinkpad' btw? thinkpads are the best portables in the known universe. |
| 11:52.33 | delire | IMHO |
| 11:52.56 | liable | delire: its ok, i like it but its had a few problems |
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| 11:53.34 | delire | liable at least Lenovo/IBM has a concept of service. unlike CrApple and ASUS. |
| 11:53.39 | netoneko | hello |
| 11:54.02 | netoneko | has anybody a deb package with qkemu, for kernel 2.6.8-2-686? |
| 11:54.11 | liable | delire: the one thing that broke while it was in warrenty i admit i did get a quick replacement for. |
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| 11:54.54 | netoneko | *kqemu, of course |
| 11:54.58 | liable | delire: that doesnt work with the slmodem driver? smartlink are the ones that wrote it.. |
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| 11:55.18 | delire | liable i have read around 20 sites claiming it doesn't. |
| 11:55.34 | liable | delire: you checked tha linmodems lists? |
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| 11:56.03 | delire | liable the Scanmodem script suggests it could work, but in experience it doesn't. yes, many on the linmodems list say slmodem doesn't support it properly. |
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| 11:56.32 | liable | delire: hrm, ok. |
| 11:56.40 | delire | liable weird yes |
| 11:56.41 | zophyx___ | Spliffster: http://www.cit.gu.edu.au/~anthony/graphics/imagick6/fonts/ |
| 11:56.46 | zophyx___ | that rocks |
| 11:57.00 | fr33think3r | how do i locate the sources of gcc-3.0 and gcc-3.0-base on the internet? couldn't find it through google and packages.debian.org seems to be down at the moment |
| 11:58.20 | fr33think3r | does debian patch gcc version released from gnu before putting it into their distributions? or can i just download the sources from gnu.org and install them? |
| 11:58.40 | zophyx___ | use a mirror |
| 11:58.49 | liable | fr33think3r: apt-get source gcc-3.4??? |
| 11:58.58 | valdyn | fr33think3r: why do you need gcc-3.0 on debian? |
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| 11:59.10 | fr33think3r | i want gcc-3.0 .. because that is what i was using for development all these months |
| 11:59.15 | liable | err.. 3.0 i mean :) |
| 11:59.22 | fr33think3r | and apt-get source isn't working for some reason |
| 11:59.23 | valdyn | freespace: sounsd horrible |
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| 11:59.33 | zophyx___ | free who ? |
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| 11:59.40 | freespace | what now? |
| 11:59.52 | valdyn | !info gcc-3.0 woody |
| 11:59.58 | dpkg | gcc-3.0: (The GNU C compiler.), section devel, is standard. Version: 1:3.0.4-7 (woody), Packaged size: 1424 kB, Installed size: 3032 kB |
| 12:00.34 | valdyn | fr33think3r: its in wooody, apt-get source depends on your deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:00.55 | fr33think3r | ok valdyn .. i will try again .. thanks |
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| 12:01.15 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i need to reinstall my windows on box, where i have debian too, but i know, that reinstalling will overwrite grub, can anyone tell me, how to repair it after windows installation ? |
| 12:01.20 | fr33think3r | is it downloadable directly from the internet? because i want to download it to a redhat machine, i dont have a debian machine here |
| 12:01.43 | valdyn | fr33think3r: yes sure |
| 12:01.59 | fr33think3r | valdyn, from one of the mirrors? |
| 12:02.06 | valdyn | fr33think3r: yes |
| 12:02.09 | liable | Nostur: all you need is to boot a rescue disk and re-run grub-install |
| 12:02.40 | valdyn | fr33think3r: http://somemirror.org/debian/pool/g/<etc> |
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| 12:02.57 | liable | Nostur: there is surely a few howtos for this on the intarweb |
| 12:03.10 | Nostur | liable: so if i boot some live distro, chroot on hdd and re run grub-install ? |
| 12:03.22 | fr33think3r | valdyn, thanks .. i will see again, i tried that but i couldn't find the sources there |
| 12:03.37 | liable | Nostur: yup, and yopu'll be golden |
| 12:03.46 | Nostur | ok, nice, gunna playy aoe3 again ;] |
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| 12:04.06 | Nostur | bye bye and thanks for the all fishes |
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| 12:04.40 | valdyn | fr33think3r: for example: http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/main/g/gcc-3.0/gcc-3.0_3.0.4ds3.orig.tar.gz |
| 12:05.17 | fr33think3r | valdyn, thanks got it :) |
| 12:05.35 | liable | thats a very good example.. :) |
| 12:05.47 | fr33think3r | hehe .. yea :) |
| 12:05.57 | fr33think3r | example for the dumb lot |
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| 12:07.55 | don | how to configure xserver-xorg display setting ? |
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| 12:08.36 | don | i still have black screen after xinit command |
| 12:08.59 | liable | don: what did you actually install? |
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| 12:09.38 | deadcat_ | !drxx don |
| 12:09.38 | dpkg | don: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 12:09.39 | don | xserver-xorg and after that gnome and apt-get upgrade |
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| 12:10.04 | liable | don: install x-window-system-core |
| 12:10.13 | don | i did that too |
| 12:10.28 | liable | then do what dpkg said |
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| 12:11.56 | pipo99 | Guerin, ipmasq is installed..still no dice..when I try to access the internet I now see rules running on my debian box like: |
| 12:11.56 | pipo99 | IN=eth0 out=eth1 SRC=192.168.7.10 DST=62.58.50.6 LEN=55 TOS=0X00 TTL=127 PROTO=UDP SPT=1028 DPT=53 LEN=35 |
| 12:11.56 | pipo99 | any hints..? |
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| 12:13.41 | streuner | !syslog console |
| 12:13.41 | dpkg | methinks syslog console is to prevent new syslog package from printing messages on console add '-R' switch in its init script and restart it with '/etc/init.d/sysklogd restart' |
| 12:14.03 | don | dpkg: it says 'no x server known for your video hardware' is that normal |
| 12:14.04 | dpkg | don: I think you lost me on that one |
| 12:14.04 | RIPS | hi all |
| 12:14.15 | RIPS | i am a french debian user |
| 12:14.18 | RIPS | and i need help! :) |
| 12:14.29 | RIPS | someone can help me ? |
| 12:14.38 | n3x | people actually think dpkg is real |
| 12:14.39 | n3x | hehehe |
| 12:14.47 | Noboru | Usually how long does it last before a debian release is stopped being supported ? |
| 12:14.53 | streuner | RIPS: as long as you don't ask? no. |
| 12:15.01 | n3x | RIPS nobody can help you if you dont tell us what you want help with |
| 12:15.06 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:15.08 | RIPS | :) |
| 12:15.10 | RIPS | ok |
| 12:15.17 | liable | don: are you sur eyou installed x-window-system? |
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| 12:15.29 | don | yes |
| 12:15.30 | RIPS | i have upgrade my debian stable > testing |
| 12:15.43 | abrocadabro | don: dpkg -l|grep x-window-system |
| 12:15.48 | RIPS | i have upgrade my kernel with linux-image-2.6.12 |
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| 12:16.09 | n3x | RIPS what is your actuall problem |
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| 12:16.45 | RIPS | when i want to install nvidia-drivers, it works perfectly but if i reboot i have the NVIDIA Logo scrached (??) or black screen and nothing.... |
| 12:16.54 | RIPS | modules & xorg.conf are ok |
| 12:17.03 | n3x | are you sure? |
| 12:17.11 | don | Debian configuration now asks about video card bus identifier |
| 12:17.22 | liable | blank |
| 12:17.22 | don | what is this |
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| 12:17.33 | n3x | !tell RIPS about google |
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| 12:18.10 | don | my VGA is ATI Radeon9550 |
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| 12:20.04 | RIPS | yep |
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| 12:20.07 | abrocadabro | don: I don't think it matter as whether you will get it going, just igonre this and come back if you have to |
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| 12:20.11 | RIPS | Google ? |
| 12:20.24 | zh3_ | ? |
| 12:20.27 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:20.39 | RIPS | have you an idea about my problem ? |
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| 12:22.21 | nothingface | hi folks |
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| 12:22.39 | nothingface | how can I force the installation of a debian package?? |
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| 12:22.49 | cbr | are the experimental mirrors dead? |
| 12:22.53 | smoke | hi all |
| 12:22.58 | RIPS | hi |
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| 12:23.08 | nothingface | i'm not able to install fglrx-driver under sid...:( |
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| 12:23.13 | abrocadabro | nothingf: get the package and dpkg -i |
| 12:23.17 | RIPS | and me nvidia-drivers |
| 12:23.19 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:23.37 | nothingface | RIPS do you use xorg? |
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| 12:24.12 | RIPS | yes |
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| 12:24.40 | nothingface | RIPS it's a problem with dependencies |
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| 12:24.43 | nothingface | i think |
| 12:24.51 | quasisane | cbr: no, they just rearranged the archive a bit replace '../project/experimental' with 'experimental' in your source.list lines for experimental |
| 12:24.53 | RIPS | and i must install ... ? |
| 12:24.56 | ootput | wow, Debian Concepts and Techniques is a fantastic book |
| 12:25.02 | ootput | i'd recommend it to everyone |
| 12:25.07 | cbr | PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 12:25.08 | cbr | this does nothing btw |
| 12:25.17 | elfo | i've a little problem... i'm using a "testing" and i want to compile something for qt 3.0.... but if i try to install qt3-dev-tools or something similar, apt-get wants to remove more or less 30 packages.... |
| 12:25.31 | ootput | cbr: yes it does |
| 12:25.34 | nothingface | RIPS I try to force the installation of my driver now |
| 12:25.45 | ootput | cbr: unless you've disabled msgs |
| 12:25.50 | quasisane | cbr: nothing other than tell you how to fix that problem. |
| 12:26.51 | smoke | i`ve a problem whit fonts in xterm, when i`m calling him whit font in my encoding as param, it gets free space |
| 12:26.51 | abrocadabro | RIPS: how did you install your driver? |
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| 12:27.15 | smoke | locales are OK |
| 12:27.16 | RaidenS | hello |
| 12:27.35 | nothingface | locales is conflicting with base-config...uff |
| 12:27.40 | RIPS | ./NVIDIA-Linux-***.run and i run nvidia-xconfig |
| 12:27.42 | ootput | smoke: what do you mean by free space? |
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| 12:27.54 | smoke | iblank character |
| 12:28.10 | quasisane | nothingface: base-config is being done away with |
| 12:28.22 | abrocadabro | RIPS: you might want to try the debian packages, apt-cache search|grep nvidia |
| 12:28.46 | RIPS | i must to uninstall actually installed drivers ? |
| 12:28.54 | elfo | nobody knows how to install qt headerss and make it works without removing more than a half of my KDE ? |
| 12:29.05 | abrocadabro | RIPS: yes, uninstall them first |
| 12:29.08 | RaidenS | got a (i think) stupid question: When i execute "who" there is a line that makes me think if everything is ok: root tty1 Aug 20 19:53 .. what could this user be? or is it a standart user? or what? |
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| 12:29.31 | nothingface | quasisane can i remove it? |
| 12:29.46 | RIPS | apt-cache search|grep nvidia >> gimme an error |
| 12:29.59 | quasisane | nothingface: sure, removed it on my systems. |
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| 12:30.00 | smoke | i`m geting this font name from xlsfonts |
| 12:30.11 | quasisane | nothingface: do you have apt-listchanges installed? |
| 12:30.37 | abrocadabro | RIPS: do you have apt-cache installed? if not apt-get install apt-cache, otherwise what is the error message? |
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| 12:30.57 | RIPS | i have apt-cache |
| 12:30.59 | cbr | quasisane: thank you, sorted it out now ;) |
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| 12:31.09 | quasisane | nothingface: nice thing to have installed, it shows you the changelogs for the new packages you are installing |
| 12:31.16 | don | xserver-xorg configuration ... no use still black screen |
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| 12:31.29 | RIPS | but it say :: You must give an exact ... ( i don't know the word in english ) |
| 12:31.32 | quasisane | cbr: your welcome |
| 12:31.47 | smoke | i think the problem relate to luit |
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| 12:31.58 | abrocadabro | RIPS: sry, my mistake, apt-cache search nvidia|more |
| 12:31.59 | nothingface | does anyone run ati radeon 9700 under sid?? |
| 12:32.15 | ladrilho | hi, I found an error in an a postint script, where can I report it ? or see if it was already reported? |
| 12:32.16 | cbr | but the command in /msg dpkg 2006 key doesnt work |
| 12:32.16 | RIPS | :) |
| 12:32.22 | cbr | gpg: can't open `': No such file or directory |
| 12:32.33 | don | will apt-get install x-window-system-core resolve the problem |
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| 12:33.08 | RaidenS | I tried to find out what this terminal tty1 is. but i couldn't. I tried to find answers on google but i think i just didn't found the 1mio dollar question. can i simply remove this user? or is it something like a "standart allways ready" connection? |
| 12:33.12 | nothingface | does anyone run ati radeon 9700 under sid?? |
| 12:33.26 | RIPS | nvidia-kernel desn't exist for my Kernel |
| 12:33.27 | RIPS | :s |
| 12:33.45 | elfo | RIPS: just use NVIDIA-installer |
| 12:33.45 | I4NI | RaidenS: are you issusing the command as root? |
| 12:33.59 | elfo | install kernel-headers-YOUR_VERSION_HERE |
| 12:34.02 | nothingface | i'm not able to run X under sid now, 'cause the fglrx-driver is removed |
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| 12:34.19 | RaidenS | yes. i usually login with my account, and switch to root using su. |
| 12:34.22 | nothingface | is there anyone who had the same problem?? |
| 12:34.23 | RIPS | yep elfo but it makes me black screen at reboot time only! |
| 12:34.43 | cbr | oh no lol |
| 12:34.46 | cbr | i copied it wrong |
| 12:34.52 | cbr | damn :p |
| 12:34.53 | elfo | RIPS: ? |
| 12:35.01 | elfo | RIPS: i've a debian and i've a nvidia |
| 12:35.04 | I4NI | RaidenS: well there you go, you are logged in as root and who is reporting that you are logged in |
| 12:35.10 | abrocadabro | RIPS: apt-get install modules-assistant and choose to install nvidia kernel modules |
| 12:35.40 | Qzxc | i wish to megrate to debian the prob is that my network dialer is rpm how can install it on debian ? |
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| 12:36.10 | abrocadabro | module-assistant actually |
| 12:36.10 | elfo | i did: abrocadabro modules-assistant? cool.... |
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| 12:36.10 | Trigger13 | can anyonbe xplainme the differnce between dbus and dbus-1? is dbus just a newer version? |
| 12:36.10 | RaidenS | I4NI, but the output is the same when i'm not root. and the user is logged in since AUG 2005. |
| 12:36.10 | mkl1525 | is there a way to send an email with an attachment from cli? Some mail versions support this but on my debian box is not possible as far as I see. |
| 12:36.34 | I4NI | RaidenS: are you using X? |
| 12:36.46 | odb | Qzxc: you can use alien-package for rpm use i think |
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| 12:36.51 | abrocadabro | Trigger13: use alien to convert rpm to deb |
| 12:36.57 | RaidenS | I4NI, no |
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| 12:37.12 | unsolo | how do i get apache running with ssl |
| 12:37.19 | RaidenS | it's a complete remote mashine. i'm using Putty to connect to it over SSH |
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| 12:37.32 | I4NI | RaidenS: toggle through your virtual consoles to see if there are any open root terminals |
| 12:37.33 | Trigger13 | abrocadabro, that wasn't for me, right? |
| 12:37.34 | NOthsouth | Hello, I just install debian sarge, what packages I need to install to have better fonts than the default ? |
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| 12:37.59 | abrocadabro | Trigger 13: why not? apt-cache search aloen |
| 12:38.09 | don | configuring debian is very frustrating thing (i feel stupid) |
| 12:38.13 | abrocadabro | alien |
| 12:38.18 | ootput | does anybody have a link to the design-flow of package submission/verification for the 3 states? |
| 12:38.19 | netoneko | has anybody a deb package with kqemu, for kernel 2.6.8-2-686? |
| 12:38.19 | RaidenS | I4NI, sorry for that next stupid question, but how do i do that with putty? |
| 12:38.22 | Qzxc | <odb>: does it come on the cd (i have ubuntu 5.04) |
| 12:38.37 | Trigger13 | i wanted to know what's the difference between the dbus and the dbus-1 package - both are in sid ;) |
| 12:38.49 | ootput | netoneko: i've had to compile from vanilla for that to work on one of my boxes |
| 12:38.52 | I4NI | RaidenS: cant do it with putty, you have to physically be on the terminal |
| 12:38.53 | odb | abrocadabro: Qzxc is the alien user ;) |
| 12:38.56 | blondie | Qzxc: youre' using debian? |
| 12:39.02 | ootput | netoneko: it was the latest vanilla at the time |
| 12:39.12 | odb | Qzxc: i dont use ubuntu, but you should find alien using apt |
| 12:39.16 | RaidenS | I4NI, that should be a little problem. the mashine is ... 2000 miles away from me :) |
| 12:39.31 | don | am i supposed to pray to the Kernel to get a some kind of a GUI |
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| 12:39.40 | RaidenS | is there another way to check that? |
| 12:39.51 | ootput | don: make menuconfig/xconfig? |
| 12:39.54 | I4NI | RaidenS: well that is a problem |
| 12:39.56 | abrocadabro | Trigger 13: no, sry, it was for Qzxc |
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| 12:40.08 | nothingface | is there anyone who runs debian sid with ati radeon???? |
| 12:40.09 | Trigger13 | abrocadabro, no prob :) |
| 12:40.13 | elfo | i try again: does someone know how to install the qt 3.0 headers without destroying my KDE installation? i've got libqt3c102-mt and i want to install libqt3-mt-headers |
| 12:40.15 | Trigger13 | nothingface, me |
| 12:40.27 | nothingface | Trigger13 : do u use fglrx drivers? |
| 12:41.00 | Trigger13 | nothingface, i used them - atm i use the r300 xorg drivers |
| 12:41.01 | Qzxc | <blondie>sorry 4 the delay .. im wealing to go toi debian or ubuntu .. |
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| 12:41.43 | I4NI | RaidenS: if its tty1 its probably the first virtual console, so pressing Alt+F1 should show an open root terminal |
| 12:41.46 | pirate | When I export the key my whole terminal goes wonky... not to mention when I add apt-key it just hangs... help? |
| 12:41.50 | Qzxc | <abrocadabro>: im using now Xp ... (my linux machine had died ).. |
| 12:42.02 | abrocadabro | elfo: you might want to ask #kde |
| 12:42.14 | elfo | but it's a debian issue |
| 12:42.14 | don | make ****no rule to make target 'xmenuconfig/xconfig'.stop |
| 12:42.22 | elfo | i try.... |
| 12:42.25 | odb | Qzxc: i would use debian, insteed fo ubuntu. but...hey, its a debian channel inhere ;) |
| 12:42.25 | nothingface | Trigger13 : r300? for what board? |
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| 12:42.35 | ocp | heya |
| 12:42.39 | I4NI | RaidenS: is there someone you could call to check it out? |
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| 12:42.46 | don | whatta |
| 12:42.46 | Trigger13 | nothingface, radeon 9700 mobile |
| 12:42.50 | elfo | i mean... the problem is in the way debian packaged qt libs and in their dependencies |
| 12:42.52 | ootput | don: you _are_ referring to a gui for kernel choices, right? |
| 12:42.54 | Qzxc | <odb>: as i understand debian is the source right ? |
| 12:42.58 | nothingface | Trigger13 the same as me |
| 12:43.00 | ootput | don: you'd need to perform that in /usr/src/linux |
| 12:43.05 | don | no |
| 12:43.15 | don | i need to start gnome |
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| 12:43.20 | abrocadabro | elfo: maybe you can find someone in #kde who are also debian users |
| 12:43.21 | nothingface | Trigger13 if that's not a problem, can u send me the xorg.conf file? |
| 12:43.23 | Trigger13 | nothingface, i just noticed the fglrx drivers are in sid - interesting |
| 12:43.23 | ootput | what exactly do you mean by a gui for the kernel? |
| 12:43.27 | elfo | abrocadabro: eheh.... right |
| 12:43.27 | don | no success |
| 12:43.34 | RaidenS | I4NI, yep it should, when i would be on a terminal connected to the mashine, but putty just want's to close when hitting Alt-F4 ;) No.. :( i have to pay a lot of money to let that check out |
| 12:43.34 | Qzxc | odb: what is more newb frindly ? |
| 12:43.42 | ootput | Qzxc: that'd be ubuntu |
| 12:43.49 | nothingface | Trigger13 it gets a lot of problem with xorg dependencies |
| 12:43.57 | Trigger13 | nothingface, sure - but i don't know if it helps you much |
| 12:43.58 | don | i have installed xserver-xorg |
| 12:44.11 | ootput | Qzxc: debian was the source. the philosophy behind ubuntu is completely different. |
| 12:44.17 | don | gnome too |
| 12:44.19 | ocp | Is there anybody to help me about gnome ??? |
| 12:44.25 | blondie | !anyone |
| 12:44.25 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 12:44.25 | don | but gnome wont start |
| 12:44.28 | nothingface | Trigger13 because i've my videocard that starts to fan when I start X |
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| 12:44.54 | Trigger13 | nothingface, the radeon driver should support dynamic switching |
| 12:45.02 | nothingface | and now i want to discover if that's for inappropriate driver or because of some othe ugly facts:) |
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| 12:45.25 | don | what should i do to make the dumb ass gnome to work ... |
| 12:45.41 | I4NI | RaidenS: you could always kill the bash PID and hope you get the right one |
| 12:45.44 | nothingface | Trigger13 yeah, but now i'm not running ati driver... |
| 12:45.48 | blondie | don: maybe you could be more specifi |
| 12:45.48 | blondie | c |
| 12:45.52 | Qzxc | <ootput>:what is the diffrence i read both debian and ubunto pages .. |
| 12:46.01 | Trigger13 | nothingface, with radeon i meant the xorg driver |
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| 12:46.08 | blondie | !doesn't work |
| 12:46.08 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 12:46.18 | ocp | Trigger13 can ask you something quickly please ? |
| 12:46.21 | abrocadabro | don: apt-get install gdm |
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| 12:46.23 | nothingface | because i've removed it since it conflicts with a newer version of xorg |
| 12:46.23 | ootput | Qzxc: plenty. i think you'd probably be better off asking in #ubuntu, as I'm sure a few of them went from Debian to Ubuntu for various reasons |
| 12:46.36 | don | ok i 'll try that gdm |
| 12:46.45 | Trigger13 | ocp, ask and don't ask if you may ask ;) |
| 12:46.47 | nothingface | Trigger13 : yes i know, but i've chosen a wrong driver i think |
| 12:46.53 | ocp | hehe |
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| 12:47.11 | ootput | Qzxc: my system works perfectly. i don't need to use bleeding edge software when i could use it's stable counterpart just the same |
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| 12:47.34 | ocp | Trigger13, my gdm launch 2 times, and said, i am already running, i have to close myself |
| 12:47.38 | quasisane | elfo: i think the package you want to install is libqt3-headers, there is now libqt3-mt-headers |
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| 12:47.47 | Qzxc | <ootput>: oo but as i understood stable have old stuff in it kde 2.2 for exmple .. |
| 12:47.47 | RaidenS | I4NI, ok, i did. Now who does only show my account. i was just wondering if this is maybe a special "waiting" account wich has to be there and should never be terminated. thanks for your help |
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| 12:47.55 | ocp | i dont know in which files to check that |
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| 12:48.11 | Trigger13 | nothingface, try to install libgl1-mesa-dri |
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| 12:48.19 | nothingface | Trigger13 dcc to me the conf |
| 12:48.19 | elfo | quasisane: that's it |
| 12:48.20 | Trigger13 | nothingface, which debian do you use btw? |
| 12:48.22 | RIPS | sorry |
| 12:48.25 | nothingface | Trigger13 sid |
| 12:48.31 | I4NI | RaidenS: no, there is no "waiting" account |
| 12:48.32 | elfo | quasisane: but if i install it i destroy my kde installation!! |
| 12:48.34 | ootput | Qzxc: to be precise: i use testing ;) I use stable on production servers where kde is a waste of repository space |
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| 12:48.37 | Trigger13 | nothingface, so try the package |
| 12:48.42 | elfo | quasisane: THAT's the problem.. not finding the package |
| 12:48.42 | RIPS | module-assistant failed to build nvidia-kernel-module |
| 12:48.46 | nothingface | fglrx? |
| 12:48.46 | quasisane | elfo: how? |
| 12:48.58 | quasisane | elfo: wants to remove kde you mean? |
| 12:49.00 | BuNnYy | who live in columbia-bogota ? |
| 12:49.03 | elfo | quasisane: not kde |
| 12:49.11 | Qzxc | <ootput>:y to use K on server i prefer xfce.. (faster).. |
| 12:49.11 | ootput | Qzxc: it sounds like you may be interested in kubuntu |
| 12:49.14 | TBBle | Oh, making r300 work? |
| 12:49.18 | RaidenS | I4NI: Ok, thank you. Wish you a nice weekend! |
| 12:49.19 | elfo | quasisane: but a huge list of kde programs |
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| 12:49.20 | nothingface | Trigger13 what package? |
| 12:49.25 | unsolo | anyone here running oscommerce with secure my account and checkout i cant get it to work! |
| 12:49.27 | BuNnYy | who live in columbia-bogota ? |
| 12:49.27 | RaidenS | bye @ all |
| 12:49.32 | I4NI | RaidenS: same to you |
| 12:49.33 | RIPS | byz |
| 12:49.35 | ocp | bbye RaidenS |
| 12:49.36 | RIPS | bye |
| 12:49.36 | blondie | BuNnYy: shush |
| 12:49.37 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:49.47 | BuNnYy | blondie what ? |
| 12:49.48 | odb | hey, how can i fix this apt-issue: |
| 12:49.50 | odb | W: GPG error: http://secure-testing.debian.net etch/security-updates Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 946AA6E18722E71E |
| 12:49.55 | RIPS | who have debian esting and nvidia-drivers installed ? |
| 12:49.57 | odb | apt-key ? any example ? |
| 12:49.58 | elfo | quasisane: want to see the output? |
| 12:50.00 | resiak | odb: You could possibly READ THE TOPIC |
| 12:50.07 | blondie | BuNnYy: no need to keep asking the same off topic question |
| 12:50.07 | quasisane | elfo: sure |
| 12:50.09 | odb | ups ok |
| 12:50.10 | elfo | ok |
| 12:50.11 | ootput | RIPS: myself |
| 12:50.14 | Qzxc | ootput:i need something debian based with lots of applications oo and it should be as free as possible |
| 12:50.17 | BuNnYy | of ok |
| 12:50.21 | BuNnYy | chao chao |
| 12:50.23 | resiak | Oh wait, secure-testing.debian.net might need a different key ... but I doubt it |
| 12:50.25 | TBBle | nothingface: libgl1-mesa-dri. If you're not on i386, you'll have to build it locally, it failed the autobuilders for some reason. |
| 12:50.29 | Trigger13 | nothingface, libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 12:50.32 | ootput | Qzxc: define free |
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| 12:50.39 | odb | resiak: im sorry, my fault ;) |
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| 12:50.46 | resiak | odb: Heh |
| 12:50.47 | Trigger13 | nothingface, do you get my xorg.conf? |
| 12:50.47 | RIPS | ootput have you install special dependiencies for install nvidia ? |
| 12:50.58 | nothingface | noiesmo:( |
| 12:51.01 | nothingface | no |
| 12:51.05 | RIPS | because when i reboot i have black screen and nothing... |
| 12:51.07 | Trigger13 | bad |
| 12:51.07 | ootput | RIPS: i followed http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/ to the t |
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| 12:51.19 | Qzxc | <ootput>:source code included , any person can use it , (cost free will be nice but not have to be ) |
| 12:51.32 | don | is there any other package needed for gnome to start (i have xserver-xorg, gnome, gdm)? |
| 12:51.37 | ocp | Trigger13, do you have any idea about that ? |
| 12:51.45 | Trigger13 | ocp, not really |
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| 12:51.57 | shevek | aptitude screams at me because the public key of my mirror (ftp.nl.debian.org) is not available. Do I need to get it manually or something? |
| 12:52.00 | Trigger13 | ocp, during boot or later? |
| 12:52.46 | ocp | Trigger13, it is starting gnome control panel, i log, then its loading with debian screen, and said it was already launch and close itself |
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| 12:53.07 | mlots | How do I disable the Nickname "is identified to services" message in irssi? |
| 12:53.12 | Trigger13 | ocp, in this case i really have no idea - i'm using xfce ;) |
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| 12:53.30 | ootput | Qzxc: i'm sorry i didn't ask this sooner: what will you be using your system for? |
| 12:53.32 | ocp | Trigger13, oh ok, thank you anyway |
| 12:53.33 | ZiDaNe | how can I change my default system language ? |
| 12:53.44 | ootput | locales |
| 12:53.48 | RIPS | base-config |
| 12:53.54 | ZiDaNe | ah thx |
| 12:54.04 | ocp | Trigger13, do you know a site where i can search ? ever looking for 2 weeks i found only question but no answer |
| 12:54.05 | RIPS | ootput i don"t understand everything |
| 12:54.07 | ocp | :( |
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| 12:54.12 | RIPS | i am a french user! :) |
| 12:54.22 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:54.28 | ocp | RIPS, hey rips tu tournes sous quoi toi ? |
| 12:54.31 | Trigger13 | ocp, maybe #gnome |
| 12:54.34 | blondie | !ft |
| 12:54.35 | blondie | !fr |
| 12:54.36 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 12:54.40 | ocp | Trigger13, thankx |
| 12:54.40 | abrocadabro | ocp: what was your problem? I wasn't paying attention |
| 12:54.45 | nothingface | Trigger13 : have u sent? |
| 12:54.55 | RIPS | non merci dpkg trop de troll sur Debian-fr |
| 12:55.04 | ocp | abrocadabro, when gnome start |
| 12:55.07 | elfo | RIPS: eh eh |
| 12:55.10 | RIPS | Debian Testing |
| 12:55.11 | Trigger13 | nothingface, yeah, but it didn't work |
| 12:55.14 | ootput | does troll in french mean the same in english? |
| 12:55.16 | nothingface | ??? |
| 12:55.21 | ocp | after showing the desktop, it said that it was launched 2 times |
| 12:55.22 | Trigger13 | nothingface, send me your mail address in private |
| 12:55.23 | Qzxc | <ootput>:systems : desktop (net,dvd burning,java applets,cad sotwares) , server (apache,ftp,firewall) |
| 12:55.28 | RIPS | i dont know |
| 12:55.33 | ocp | abrocadabro, dunno how to fix it |
| 12:55.40 | ootput | Qzxc: server would benefit greatly from stable |
| 12:55.41 | RIPS | what's the signification in english ? |
| 12:55.42 | abrocadabro | ocp: do you use gdm? |
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| 12:55.47 | ocp | abrocadabro, yes |
| 12:55.57 | Qzxc | <ootput>:desktop ? |
| 12:56.07 | mlots | ootput: try searching google for french language pages with the word "troll" |
| 12:56.09 | elfo | quasisane: i cannot selectively choose what package take from unstable and what from testing? |
| 12:56.12 | TBBle | You shouldn't need to do anything to your xorg.conf to fire up DRI with r300... the Radeon driver you're already running should pick it up. |
| 12:56.12 | abrocadabro | ocp: ps ax|grep gdm, see who many instances of that do you get |
| 12:56.16 | ocp | abrocadabro, it start normally but said, i was lauching 2 times, i must close myself |
| 12:56.17 | ootput | Qzxc: as for your desktop, perhaps testing |
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| 12:56.38 | ocp | 3746 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/bin/gdm |
| 12:56.38 | ocp | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.38 | ocp | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.39 | quasisane | elfo: you can try, but it usually ends up with you pulling in most of the unstable dist |
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| 12:56.45 | ocp | abrocadabro, thats what i have |
| 12:56.48 | mlots | Is there any way to disable the "is identified to services" messages? |
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| 12:56.57 | chenzy | hihi room |
| 12:57.07 | ootput | Qzxc: you should take advantage of http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages |
| 12:57.11 | TBBle | mlots: Prolly. Either don't identify or try #irssi maybe. |
| 12:57.11 | elfo | yep |
| 12:57.13 | RIPS | in french a troll is a person who say :: "Google is your friend" or "Go back on Windows" when you request help |
| 12:57.16 | ootput | Qzxc: to figure out which release suits you best |
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| 12:57.27 | ocp | abrocadabro, i think the problem came the day i made an apt-get update |
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| 12:57.53 | abrocadabro | ocp: looks like you have two gdm running at the same time, /etc/init.d/gdm stop and do that again until you see no gdm in ps ax|grep gdm, and startx as a normal user |
| 12:58.00 | nothingface | Trigger13 : /JOIN #temp |
| 12:58.08 | RIPS | if someone speak in private-message for help, i give him a great gift! :) |
| 12:58.21 | ootput | an e-gift |
| 12:58.27 | nothingface | i'm not registered yet here:) |
| 12:58.28 | mlots | TBBle: They seem a bit idle... but then what channel doesn't compaired to this one. ;-) |
| 12:58.29 | Qzxc | <ootput>: 10x will check it now .. |
| 12:58.35 | RIPS | no no a really gift! :) |
| 12:58.38 | ocp | abrocadabro, but how to fix it each time i boot ? |
| 12:58.41 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:58.50 | RIPS | please help me................ :'( |
| 12:58.52 | ootput | you missed christmas by a few weeks |
| 12:59.00 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:59.10 | abrocadabro | ocp: maybe you gdm is corrputed, get the package and dpkg -i to overwrite |
| 12:59.11 | chenzy | plsssssssssss help me |
| 12:59.15 | RIPS | lol |
| 12:59.39 | TBBle | mlots: I've never gotten much joy from #irssi myself, I must admin. |
| 12:59.40 | TBBle | admit |
| 13:00.01 | abrocadabro | RIPS: /j #nvidia you may have more luck in there |
| 13:00.03 | mlots | TBBle: any luck with any of the other irc client groups? |
| 13:00.22 | TBBle | mlots: I just futzed about until I worked it out (split-sceening in my case, rather than filtering) |
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| 13:00.46 | RIPS | thx |
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| 13:00.57 | ocp | abrocadabro, hehe it close my session |
| 13:01.05 | ocp | abrocadabro, :( |
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| 13:01.24 | ootput | RIPS: the instructions can be a bit complicated as they're separated according to your kernel image |
| 13:01.24 | ocp | abrocadabro, when i restarted it said the same thing |
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| 13:01.37 | abrocadabro | ocp: it does, how did you restart |
| 13:01.37 | ootput | RIPS: if you're using a kernel that you retrieved via apt-get |
| 13:01.52 | ocp | /etc/init.d/gdm start |
| 13:02.03 | TBBle | ocp: This might be way off course, but I found today that xdm was confusing itself and trying to launch twice. I dpkg -P'd xdm and reinstalled it, and it worked OK. That might be worth a try. |
| 13:02.09 | ocp | abrocadabro, i try stop but said no manager lauched |
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| 13:02.36 | ootput | RIPS: follow Step 1 on http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 13:02.37 | ocp | TBBle, but how to ? i'm too noob |
| 13:02.48 | ootput | RIPS: using module-assistant to create the necessary modules |
| 13:02.52 | TBBle | ocp: dpkg -P gdm; apt-get install gdm |
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| 13:03.08 | abrocadabro | ocp: go to your /var/cache/apt/archives and find the gdm package and dpkg -i that package see if it fixes your problem |
| 13:03.21 | ocp | TBBle, ok thankx i try it and i'll be back ;P |
| 13:03.59 | abrocadabro | ocp: get rid of xdm or kde and only keep gdm |
| 13:04.04 | abrocadabro | kdm |
| 13:04.16 | rage | Gravity pwns you |
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| 13:04.45 | darkcmd | how can I tell which packages put files in /srv |
| 13:05.21 | ocp | abrocadabro, i launch the command, it is reading data base |
| 13:05.22 | stepardo | abrocadabro: No, i guess not. |
| 13:05.26 | Qzxc | ootput: went to insatll thnx 4 the help ... |
| 13:05.36 | ocp | abrocadabro, then i reboot |
| 13:05.39 | ocp | abrocadabro, ? |
| 13:05.45 | abrocadabro | ocp: why reboot? |
| 13:05.45 | TBBle | darkcmd: dpkg -S? |
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| 13:05.58 | meyerbeer | hi folks |
| 13:06.01 | RIPS | m-a failed to build this module |
| 13:06.09 | abrocadabro | stepardo: not about what? |
| 13:06.17 | ocp | abrocadabro, to see if the control panel launch 2 times again |
| 13:06.18 | meyerbeer | when will mldonkey 2.7.2 reach the unstable repository? |
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| 13:06.26 | ocp | abrocadabro, or i just close the session ? |
| 13:06.35 | meyerbeer | is there a dead line or so? |
| 13:06.39 | stepardo | abrocadabro: Sorry, my emacs didn't update the channel-viw, so i saw some old messages. |
| 13:06.48 | ocp | abrocadabro, and how can i get rid of xdm and kde ? |
| 13:06.52 | IPTables | who can i find the german debian channel? |
| 13:06.55 | abrocadabro | ocp: you don't have to reboot the machine, just /etc/init.d/gdm stop and start again |
| 13:06.59 | odb | ocp: kde = kdm in that case |
| 13:07.03 | stepardo | IPTables: #debian.de |
| 13:07.08 | IPTables | thn |
| 13:07.17 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok brb |
| 13:07.18 | abrocadabro | stepardo: np |
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| 13:08.10 | darkcmd | TBBle: thanks |
| 13:08.13 | WMV9VLC | is there any precompiled packaged for videolan with WMV9 support?? I accessed the SUE ME web, but no debian package is found there |
| 13:08.35 | darkcmd | !tell WMV9VLC about w32codecs |
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| 13:08.56 | odb | WMV9VLC: just use Mplayer and be happy ;) |
| 13:09.03 | ocp | abrocadabro, always got the same message |
| 13:09.05 | RIPS | +1 |
| 13:09.13 | WMV9VLC | odb: mplayer doesn't have support for WMV9 |
| 13:09.26 | abrocadabro | ocp: what is the message again? word by word |
| 13:09.30 | darkcmd | !w32codecs |
| 13:09.31 | dpkg | [w32codecs] a package, not in Debian (or non-free or contrib) due to legal issues, that provides numerous multimedia codecs normally found on win32 systems for popular but usually proprietary formats. ask me about <marillat> to get it anyway |
| 13:09.31 | WMV9VLC | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:09.39 | ootput | odb: you could always add marillat to your repo |
| 13:09.54 | ootput | odb: or find the win codec, and pop it in the codecs dir |
| 13:09.59 | ocp | abrocadabro, it is in french, but the translation is like "I am already running, i have to close myself" |
| 13:10.01 | odb | ootput: that info was for WMV9VLC i guess ;) |
| 13:10.16 | darkcmd | WMV9VLC: once you put marillat to your repo and do the update on your package list... just install w32codecs |
| 13:10.20 | ootput | odb: you're the preferred medium :) |
| 13:10.29 | WMV9VLC | ok lets see if it works |
| 13:11.15 | abrocadabro | ocp: /etc/init.d/gdm stop and go to one shell outside X and ps ax|grep gdm, make sure there is no instancec of it running, actually killall -9 gdm and then /etc/init.d/gdm start |
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| 13:12.39 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok |
| 13:13.06 | ocp | abrocadabro, but what u mean by "go to one shell outside x " ??? |
| 13:13.06 | abrocadabro | ocp: control + alt + f2 to get to a shell just in case |
| 13:13.13 | ocp | abrocadabro, right |
| 13:13.15 | ocp | hehe |
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| 13:14.29 | abrocadabro | I bet ocp would not come back by ctrl+alt+f7 |
| 13:14.32 | WMV9VLC | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:15.12 | ootput | abrocadabro: most likely :) |
| 13:15.12 | don | i've just started gnome, where i can find packages or apt sources for stable Ati fglrx driver |
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| 13:19.04 | tonb | Hi folks! I have a question about Madwifi with a PCMCIA card. Can anybody help me? |
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| 13:19.29 | ootput | put it out there |
| 13:19.32 | tonb | How can I show a device that a module is using? |
| 13:19.38 | tonb | Thanks ootput |
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| 13:20.04 | Vladie | !uset autoinvite 1 |
| 13:20.15 | ocp | abrocadabro, well, when i stop gdm and make a ps ax|grep gdm, there is no process of gdm running |
| 13:20.18 | abrocadabro | tonb: maybe lsof? |
| 13:20.26 | resiak | !fglrx |
| 13:20.26 | dpkg | it has been said that fglrx is see firegl, or see ati drivers, or usually not worth the effort |
| 13:20.37 | tonb | I try that! |
| 13:20.46 | resiak | don: /msg dpkg ati drivers |
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| 13:20.54 | abrocadabro | ocp: and you got the same message? |
| 13:21.01 | ocp | abrocadabro, yeah |
| 13:21.19 | WMV9VLC | when I update, debian stable keeps crashing due to bzip2 problems, how can I solve it? |
| 13:21.22 | ocp | abrocadabro, is it possible that 2 users are linked together ? |
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| 13:21.36 | ootput | WMV9VLC: that sounds serious. |
| 13:21.43 | abrocadabro | ocp: did you reinstall gdm package with dpkg -i? |
| 13:21.50 | WMV9VLC | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:21.52 | ocp | abrocadabro, i did it |
| 13:22.07 | odb | hey, got a problem while using apt-get upgrade. Infos there: http://nopaste.php-q.net/182843 any ideas how to fix the phyton conflict ? |
| 13:22.47 | ocp | abrocadabro, maybe i should uninstall it completly and then launch a apt-get install ? |
| 13:23.04 | abrocadabro | ocp: what's the output with apt-get remove gdm? I mean how many other packages does it ask to remove and what are they? |
| 13:23.08 | WMV9VLC | ootput: no, it's only for contrib and non-free |
| 13:23.14 | tonb | abrocadabro, lsof does not list the device |
| 13:23.36 | tonb | anybody got madwifi driver working? |
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| 13:23.46 | ocp | abrocadabro, wait i check |
| 13:23.59 | abrocadabro | tonb: if doesn't, but if you fish around you might find something like /dev/? , maybe I am not sure |
| 13:24.04 | StuckMojo | hey, has anyone installed sun studio 11? |
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| 13:24.25 | abrocadabro | tonb: I did |
| 13:24.28 | ocp | abrocadabro, it said that there is only one package to take out |
| 13:24.34 | SeeFood | howdie... I can't seem to find the right info from dpkg... now that utah-glx is gone with the dodo, and I'm running xorg 6.9.0 from unstable... what to I install to get GLX drivers? |
| 13:24.37 | ocp | abrocadabro, should i proceed or ? |
| 13:24.40 | abrocadabro | ocp: gdm alone? |
| 13:24.46 | ocp | abrocadabro, yeah |
| 13:24.54 | dvm1981 | I have buy a Dlink DWL-G122 USB wifi key and a router, router works fine an the both hardware work on another comercial OS. But in Debian i dont know how to setup the USB key it to work |
| 13:25.13 | abrocadabro | ocp: apt-get remove gdm and dpkg --purge dgm |
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| 13:25.20 | ocp | abrocadabro, it said one to take off and 1587 to update |
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| 13:25.52 | abrocadabro | ocp: what command did you do? |
| 13:26.04 | ocp | abrocadabro, apt-get remove gdm |
| 13:26.20 | abrocadabro | ocp: just proceed see what happens |
| 13:26.22 | ocp | abrocadabro, it said impossible to join RPC |
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| 13:26.38 | ocp | abrocadabro, on target host, connexion refused |
| 13:26.40 | LaoTseu | dvm1981: 2 solutions : if your USB key has a supported chipset you should have a module to load in the kernel |
| 13:26.53 | LaoTseu | or you can use ndiswrapper |
| 13:27.08 | SeeFood | GLX for ATI Rage under xorg 6.9.0 unstable, anyone? |
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| 13:27.08 | LaoTseu | (check on the website if your model is suported) |
| 13:27.26 | abrocadabro | ocp: gdm has nothing to do with RPC and networking, under what did that happen? |
| 13:27.33 | tonb | abrocadabro, I can do modprobe ath_pci and get no error |
| 13:27.35 | ircdevil | i problems with my soundcard. i cannot adjust master volume, and the microphone is not working. i suspect that my setup is bad, and i was wondering if there was any live-cd with powerful hardware detection and setup, that i could test to get this right? |
| 13:27.50 | tonb | abrocadabro, now I have to find out the name of the device |
| 13:27.50 | ocp | abrocadabro, it said also be sure to run dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
| 13:27.56 | LaoTseu | ircdevil: model ? |
| 13:28.01 | tonb | abrocadabro, to use with wlanconfig |
| 13:28.02 | odb | live cd knoppix ircdevil |
| 13:28.04 | dvm1981 | LaoTseu : on wish website i could check that ;-) |
| 13:28.15 | abrocadabro | ocp: don't install xdm, you won't need it |
| 13:28.23 | LaoTseu | ndiswrapper one dvm1981 |
| 13:28.24 | ircdevil | LaoTseu: i810 stuff with alsa |
| 13:28.26 | ocp | abrocadabro, right |
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| 13:28.43 | LaoTseu | ircdevil: 've got the same :) |
| 13:28.56 | ocp | abrocadabro, should i close the session and start again apt-get remove gdm ? |
| 13:28.59 | ircdevil | LaoTseu: can you paste your lsmod output somewhere? |
| 13:29.07 | ircdevil | LaoTseu: and lspci |
| 13:29.07 | abrocadabro | tonb: iwconfig, what does it say? |
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| 13:29.22 | ircdevil | !paste |
| 13:29.22 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 13:29.23 | DimGR | hello |
| 13:29.33 | DimGR | how do i put a package on hold? |
| 13:29.33 | dvm1981 | LaoTseu : ok on sourcforge site i looking now thanks ;-) |
| 13:29.35 | LaoTseu | ircdevil: wait 2 seconds, i'm turning on my laptop |
| 13:29.57 | abrocadabro | ocp: you don't need to, remove it doesn't require you to terminate it first |
| 13:29.57 | tonb | abrocadabro, a couple of interfaces, with the text 'no wireless extensions' |
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| 13:30.08 | zolearnz | which is correct apt-cache search or apt-cache find |
| 13:30.10 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok but i doesnt want to be removed |
| 13:30.13 | abrocadabro | tonb: what are they |
| 13:30.28 | LaoTseu | dvm1981: in fact you just have to load i18à_audio (modprobe i810_audio) |
| 13:30.33 | abrocadabro | ocp: apt-get remove gdm, what is the message? |
| 13:30.37 | ocp | abrocadabro, it seems that it is already uninstalled |
| 13:30.44 | odb | zolearnz: how about a single test ? |
| 13:30.46 | abrocadabro | ocp: dpkg -l|grep gdm |
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| 13:30.57 | dvm1981 | LaoTseu : ok i ty it now |
| 13:30.57 | odb | its quite easy to check this question |
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| 13:31.08 | ocp | abrocadabro, nothing happen |
| 13:31.10 | LaoTseu | dvm1981: no |
| 13:31.17 | ocp | abrocadabro, no package i guess |
| 13:31.19 | LaoTseu | not for you excuse me :) |
| 13:31.27 | ocp | abrocadabro, what should i do next ? |
| 13:31.31 | dvm1981 | LaoTseu : ? |
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| 13:31.46 | zolearnz | odb, i do not have debian at the moment. please. |
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| 13:31.54 | abrocadabro | tonb: go to the modules directory for wireless card, there are more modules to insert, I can't remember what they are but there are more |
| 13:32.03 | LaoTseu | dvm1981: the message about modprobe wasn't for you :) |
| 13:32.07 | odb | apt-cache search. Its still a bad question ;) |
| 13:32.07 | LaoTseu | ircdevil: in fact you just have to load i18à_audio (modprobe i810_audio) |
| 13:32.25 | dvm1981 | LaoTseu : ok ;-) |
| 13:32.50 | abrocadabro | ocp: if it says nothing then you don't have gdm, check if there is /etc/init.d/gdm |
| 13:32.50 | ircdevil | LaoTseu: i have sound. i dont have mic. and i cannot adjust volume |
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| 13:33.01 | dvm1981 | Continueing looking on sourceforge for ndiswrapper |
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| 13:33.07 | ocp | abrocadabro, no directory or file of that type |
| 13:33.10 | don | where to paste public keys in sources.list |
| 13:33.22 | odb | ircdevil: checked your kmix settings, or something similar ? |
| 13:33.41 | ircdevil | odb: alsamixer settings looks good. |
| 13:33.42 | odb | don: if you are talking about apt-key, see topic |
| 13:33.47 | zolearnz | which is correct apt-cache search or apt-cache find |
| 13:33.52 | don | GPG key |
| 13:33.54 | zolearnz | sorry. |
| 13:33.55 | odb | zolearnz: learn to read |
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| 13:34.02 | odb | i already answered this question |
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| 13:34.04 | don | is that aptkey |
| 13:34.15 | zolearnz | odb, now i see |
| 13:34.17 | zolearnz | sorry |
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| 13:34.23 | ocp | abrocadabro, must i launch a apt-get install gdm now ? |
| 13:34.27 | odb | and repeating sucks |
| 13:34.43 | abrocadabro | if you are sure there is no gdm no your system, then /etc/init.d/gdm start should not bring you back, if it really doesn't, go to /var/cache/apt/archives and delete any gdm packages and apt-get install gdm again |
| 13:34.44 | Alan__ | hi everyone |
| 13:34.45 | ircdevil | what is the correct way to test i mic is working? cat /dev/dsp > /dev/dsp ? |
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| 13:35.18 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok i try thank you |
| 13:35.21 | odb | ocp: did you remeved completlye using --purge. If this matters (dont know) |
| 13:35.35 | ocp | odb, i use it |
| 13:35.38 | odb | ..removed completly.. |
| 13:35.45 | odb | k |
| 13:36.16 | dvm1981 | Alan_ : hi |
| 13:36.31 | ocp | what command should i use to delete gdm package ? |
| 13:36.31 | ocp | delete ? rmdir ? |
| 13:36.36 | abrocadabro | rm -fr |
| 13:36.46 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok ty |
| 13:36.56 | ircdevil | apt-get remove --purge gdm |
| 13:37.09 | dvm1981 | delete all |
| 13:37.33 | tonb | abrocadabro, the devices that iwconfig lists, are: lo, eth0, eth1 and sit0 |
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| 13:37.42 | dvm1981 | do not use rm -rf it for recurse and force |
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| 13:38.05 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok it is clean, there is no package named gdm in /archives, i start apt-get install gdm now ? |
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| 13:38.22 | tonb | abrocadabro, i have loaded all the net-modules |
| 13:38.57 | dvm1981 | do not good understand |
| 13:38.58 | ocp | dvm1981, too late :| |
| 13:39.04 | abrocadabro | tonb: madwifi normally has ath0, go to /lib/modules/kernel*/ amd go to the driver directory, could you tell me what other modules are there? |
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| 13:40.09 | abrocadabro | ocp: yes |
| 13:40.18 | ocp | abrocadabro, under process |
| 13:40.24 | ocp | abrocadabro, done |
| 13:40.25 | dvm1981 | ocp : troubles ? |
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| 13:40.39 | ocp | abrocadabro, i close and restart gdm to see if |
| 13:40.54 | abrocadabro | ocp: then /etc/init.d/gdm stop , which brings you back to a shell, and start again see what happens |
| 13:40.56 | ocp | dvm1981, my gnome panel launch twice |
| 13:41.04 | ocp | abrocadabro, ok |
| 13:41.21 | abrocadabro | gnome panel launches twice? |
| 13:41.21 | tonb | abrocadabro, acpi atm base block bluetooth cdrom char cpufreq drivers.txt firmware i2c ide ieee1394 infiniband input isdn md media message misc mmc mtd net parport pci pcmcia scsi serial telephony usb video w1 |
| 13:41.33 | ocp | abrocadabro, command not found |
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| 13:41.55 | dvm1981 | ocp : erased ? |
| 13:41.55 | abrocadabro | tonb: what is this under? |
| 13:42.05 | abrocadabro | ocp: /etc/init.d.gdm start |
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| 13:42.11 | ocp | dvm1981, erased ? i dunno |
| 13:42.16 | abrocadabro | s/\./\/ |
| 13:42.33 | tonb | abrocadabro, /lib/modules/2.6.12-1-amd64-k8/kernel/drivers |
| 13:42.34 | dvm1981 | ocp : confusions |
| 13:42.38 | cmdKeen | I have 2 files (sane scanner drivers) but I don'w want to install whole useless HP package... what is fastest way of making .deb package from them ? |
| 13:42.39 | ocp | no file or folder of that type |
| 13:43.17 | abrocadabro | tonb: if you compiled the driver yourself, it should be up two levels |
| 13:43.29 | ocp | abrocadabro, line 49 log_deamon_msg : command not found |
| 13:43.32 | abrocadabro | ocp: did you install gdm? |
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| 13:43.47 | ocp | abrocadabro, yes with apt-get install gdm |
| 13:43.49 | tonb | abrocadabro, that's correct, should I list that dir too? |
| 13:43.56 | ocp | abrocadabro, done successfully |
| 13:43.58 | seicherlbob | hi there! anybody knows about the magic file?? |
| 13:43.59 | abrocadabro | yes |
| 13:44.20 | tonb | build kernel modules.ccwmap modules.ieee1394map modules.isapnpmap modules.pcimap modules.symbols net |
| 13:44.23 | tonb | initrd modules.alias modules.dep modules.inputmap modules.ofmap modules.seriomap modules.usbmap |
| 13:44.33 | zh3_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.34 | dvm1981 | ocp : good ! :-) |
| 13:44.41 | ocp | abrocadabro, i guess that if i close i'll not able to restart it again ! |
| 13:44.43 | tonb | ls of net: ath_hal.ko ath_rate_sample.ko wlan_ccmp.ko wlan_scan_ap.ko wlan_tkip.ko wlan_xauth.ko |
| 13:44.47 | tonb | ath_pci.ko wlan_acl.ko wlan.ko wlan_scan_sta.ko wlan_wep.ko |
| 13:44.55 | ocp | dvm1981, hehehe thankx |
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| 13:45.33 | abrocadabro | tonb: you need to load wlan, ath_hal as well, the rest will be start automatically |
| 13:45.35 | dvm1981 | :-) |
| 13:45.37 | seicherlbob | anybody knows about the magic file?? mine is empty but i need it for filerecovery |
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| 13:45.50 | abrocadabro | ocp: dpkg -l|grep gdm |
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| 13:46.05 | tonb | abrocadabro, I am trying |
| 13:46.11 | ocp | ii gdm 2.8.0.6-2 GNOME Display Manager |
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| 13:46.28 | abrocadabro | ocp: and you can't find /etc/init.d/gdm ? |
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| 13:46.49 | don | i cant add the public key to apt |
| 13:46.55 | Jacobo221 | is there any way to set the kernel's keyboard charset (builtins option or kernel parameter) so that when entering in rescue mode i can use my es_ES charset instead of en_US ? |
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| 13:47.07 | ocp | abrocadabro, yeah i found it |
| 13:47.16 | don | stanchina.net/~flavio/gpgkey.html |
| 13:47.27 | abrocadabro | ocp: /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 13:47.29 | Jacobo221 | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 13:47.31 | ocp | abrocadabro, but there is an error in the gdm file |
| 13:47.32 | sepski | Jacobo221, tried loadkeys |
| 13:47.43 | Jacobo221 | don: read above |
| 13:47.51 | ocp | abrocadabro, /etc/init.d/gdm: line 49: log_daemon_msg: command not found |
| 13:48.02 | Jacobo221 | sepski: i mean, directly through kernel. without running commands |
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| 13:48.50 | Jacobo221 | sepski: i remember there was a kbd= parameter some time ago and in the kernel option you could also select the charsets to support. but i can't see that anymore abnd the parameter doesn't work either |
| 13:49.23 | dvm1981 | ocp : it's because there are no logging system ?? |
| 13:49.42 | don | do you mean the topic Jacobo221 |
| 13:49.48 | Jacobo221 | don: yes |
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| 13:49.52 | ocp | dvm1981, dunno lol, i'm too noob |
| 13:50.17 | don | does not work for me i have tried it .. may be i dont understand the exact syntax |
| 13:50.31 | seicherlbob | anybody knows about the magic file?? mine is empty but i need it for filerecovery |
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| 13:50.53 | abrocadabro | ocp: dpkg --purge gdm and apt-get install gdm again |
| 13:51.40 | dvm1981 | ocp : ? |
| 13:51.51 | asg | seicherlbob: which magic file? /etc/magic? |
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| 13:53.03 | seicherlbob | cause lazarus needs it |
| 13:53.16 | tonb | abrocadabro, I have a pcmcia card |
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| 13:53.55 | asg | seicherlbob: well, /etc/magic is for local modifications, /usr/share/file/magic is the system file and part of the 'file' package. |
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| 13:53.58 | tonb | abrocadabro, I have a pcmcia card that works well with suse 10 |
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| 13:54.12 | seicherlbob | asg: oh... i'll have a look on that. |
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| 13:54.58 | seicherlbob | asg: i got no file directory in usr/share |
| 13:55.26 | asg | seicherlbob: then apt-get install file |
| 13:55.36 | abrocadabro | tonb: do you also have pcmcia module loaded? |
| 13:55.47 | seicherlbob | asg: just did it, i got the newest version |
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| 13:56.46 | don | ERROR: Can't find the archive-keyring |
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| 13:57.21 | asg | seicherlbob: sorry, it's in libmagic1 |
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| 13:58.11 | seicherlbob | libmagic1? sorry havent got it either |
| 13:58.23 | seicherlbob | asg: you mean package or path? |
| 13:58.27 | asg | seicherlbob: package |
| 13:58.33 | seicherlbob | asg: oh |
| 13:58.37 | asg | !find usr/share/file/magic |
| 13:58.46 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'usr/share/file/magic' (1): (/usr/share/file/{magic|magic.mgc|magic.mime|...}) in libs/libmagic1. |
| 13:58.50 | asg | seicherlbob: ^^^ |
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| 13:59.24 | spook][68 | hi! i need help! why i can't use apt-get since i've installed plesk on my server? i can use it, but debian want to deinstall plesk before :/ |
| 13:59.34 | seicherlbob | asg: shit... got an update running. can't fetch files at the moment |
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| 14:00.51 | abrocadabro | spook: what is plesk? |
| 14:01.03 | odb | !google plesk |
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| 14:01.09 | dpkg | Google says plesk is at http://www.swsoft.com/ or http://www.swsoft.com/en/products/plesk/ or http://www.plesk.com/ or http://www.geotrust.com/resources/install/plesk.htm or http://www.geotrust.com/resources/csr/plesk.htm |
| 14:01.15 | spook][68 | plesk is the webserver administration tool from swsoft like confixx |
| 14:01.31 | Scrape | Hello. I just compiled a new kernel, and now my USB mouse (/dev/input/mouse0) doesn't get included as part of /dev/input/mice. Any thoughts? |
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| 14:02.11 | don | mamka mu |
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| 14:03.05 | dvm1981 | right little bit more farder now ... thankx to the unknow person that have help me some time ago, +- 20 min ago with ndiswrapper |
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| 14:03.33 | dvm1981 | neptune:/home/david# ndiswrapper -l |
| 14:03.33 | dvm1981 | Installed ndis drivers: |
| 14:03.33 | dvm1981 | netrtusb driver present, hardware present |
| 14:03.51 | dvm1981 | how to start it now |
| 14:04.14 | ocp | abrocadabro, it doesnt work |
| 14:04.28 | ocp | abrocadabro, the control panel still launching twice |
| 14:04.33 | ocp | abrocadabro, :| |
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| 14:04.43 | dvm1981 | How to (right) cut and pate data here in this window ? |
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| 14:04.51 | dvm1981 | past |
| 14:05.03 | asg | dvm1981: configure an interface (man 5 interfaces, man 7 wireless) -- If you don't have the latter, install wireless-tools |
| 14:05.09 | odb | dont cut & paste long things here dvm1981 , use nopaste for such things ;) |
| 14:05.38 | dvm1981 | testing nopaste, howto ? |
| 14:05.46 | seicherlbob | asg: i already got limagic but the file /usr/share/file/magic is still not found |
| 14:05.48 | odb | !google nopaste |
| 14:05.49 | dvm1981 | asg : thankx looking for ... |
| 14:05.54 | dpkg | Google says nopaste is at http://www.rafb.net/paste/ or http://www.rafb.net/paste/faq.html or http://phpfi.com/ or http://nopaste.php-q.net/ or http://www.perlcoders.com/main/scripts.html?script=NoPaste |
| 14:06.07 | dvm1981 | oela Google |
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| 14:06.23 | dvm1981 | or oela Googlaa |
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| 14:06.33 | abrocadabro | ocp: create another account and login to that if it makes a difference |
| 14:06.36 | dvm1981 | :0 |
| 14:06.38 | asg | seicherlbob: dpkg -L libmagic1 (it should be there) You didn't manually delete it did you? (if so, /msg dpkg confmiss) |
| 14:06.40 | Devix | can someone help me recover partition table? |
| 14:07.11 | Alan__ | hi |
| 14:07.18 | ocp | abrocadabro, right, i'll make that and tell you whats happen later, cause have to go, |
| 14:07.24 | seicherlbob | asg: usr/share/MISC/file/magic |
| 14:07.27 | ocp | abrocadabro, thank you very much for your help |
| 14:07.31 | odb | Devix: there is a tool which guess your partition table, but i dont remeber the name ;) |
| 14:07.33 | ocp | abrocadabro, talk to u again soon |
| 14:07.37 | abrocadabro | ocp: np |
| 14:07.42 | Alan__ | can someone help me with installing the second debian cd |
| 14:07.45 | asg | seicherlbob: what Debian version are you running? |
| 14:08.01 | Alan__ | 30r1 i think |
| 14:08.03 | seicherlbob | asg: woody with a distupdate |
| 14:08.17 | odb | Alan__: there is no second cd, make a basic install and do the rest using apt (is at least the easy way) |
| 14:08.20 | Alan__ | i downloaded a few days ago with jingo |
| 14:08.24 | seicherlbob | asg: actually i don't know exactly. its my "old" fileserver |
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| 14:08.43 | Alan__ | i can't - i need gui to set up wireless network |
| 14:08.47 | asg | seicherlbob: well, as long as you found it. |
| 14:08.47 | seicherlbob | asg: so should i set the path-var to that directory so lazarus finds the magicfile? |
| 14:09.05 | odb | then add the second cd to your apt-source |
| 14:09.14 | odb | and continue your install |
| 14:09.25 | odb | do something like apt-setup |
| 14:09.26 | asg | seicherlbob: I'm not familiar with lazarus but if it has an option to set the location of the file, that should work |
| 14:09.30 | Alan__ | I did apt-cdrom and then apt-update to no avail |
| 14:09.40 | Alan__ | how do i add it to apt-source |
| 14:09.48 | seicherlbob | asg: don't think so. thats why i mentioned the pathvar |
| 14:09.50 | odb | is the cd listed in your sources.list ? |
| 14:09.51 | Devix | odb: gpart you mean? |
| 14:09.51 | tonb | abrocadabro, I was just thinking about that, lspci does not show my card, as it does under Suse |
| 14:09.57 | Alan__ | yeh it is |
| 14:10.02 | odb | Devix: yep. is working quite good |
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| 14:10.22 | valdyn | tonb: run 'update-pciids' and try again |
| 14:10.22 | odb | Alan__: so you can instal lwhatever is on that second cd in normal case |
| 14:10.32 | Alan__ | how do i do that? |
| 14:10.36 | Devix | odb: could you help me a bit with that? I downloaded the source |
| 14:10.45 | odb | using APT Alan__ |
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| 14:10.54 | Znh | hmm |
| 14:10.59 | odb | Devix: not really. its too long ago that i used it, sorry |
| 14:11.02 | Znh | How can I play wmv files? |
| 14:11.10 | asg | Znh: /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 14:11.11 | Znh | VLC/Totem doesnt seem to handle these kind of files |
| 14:11.11 | odb | Znh: dl w32codec |
| 14:11.17 | abrocadabro | tonb: lspci doesn't show your card? if that's the case adding the driver won't really help |
| 14:11.19 | Alan__ | yeh, but how with apt, when I do apt-get install kde it says the dependenices arn't there |
| 14:11.23 | Znh | E: Couldn't find package win32codec |
| 14:11.24 | tonb | valdyn, lspci still does not show the pcmcia card |
| 14:11.26 | Alan__ | same with any other package i try on the cdrom |
| 14:11.41 | odb | !tell marillat |
| 14:11.48 | tonb | abrocadabro, under Suse on the same machine it works |
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| 14:11.49 | odb | or what was the command ? |
| 14:12.12 | Alan__ | apt-get install kde |
| 14:12.14 | tonb | So the hardware is not malfunctioning |
| 14:12.17 | odb | Znh: google for marillat & w32codec |
| 14:12.18 | valdyn | !pcmcia |
| 14:12.18 | dpkg | pcmcia is, like, (Personal Computer Memory Card International Association) Aside from winning the award for being the longest and most-annoying-to-pronounce technology acronym, PCMCIA is a credit card-sized interface card standard. PCMCIA cards are most commonly found in notebook computers. You'll usually find two slots on newer models. Two small slots can hold two Type I or II cards or one Type III card. Type III cards are usually mini hard drives. ... |
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| 14:12.33 | asg | odb: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 14:12.44 | odb | thx |
| 14:13.08 | seicherlbob | DAMN! still can't find any magic files.... |
| 14:13.11 | Alan__ | odb: how do iinstall then? |
| 14:13.16 | valdyn | tonb: uname -r |
| 14:13.24 | odb | Alan__: google howto use APT |
| 14:13.29 | abrocadabro | tonb: if you have windows on the same machine, you can check if it works |
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| 14:13.42 | tonb | abrocadabro, I do get a pcmcia error at boot time, but the pcmcia modules load |
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| 14:13.49 | Alan__ | odb - ive read the man pages and debians apt howto |
| 14:13.50 | abrocadabro | tonb: or ubuntu live cd |
| 14:14.07 | abrocadabro | what is the message? |
| 14:14.14 | tonb | abrocadabro, Suse with the same hw works |
| 14:14.38 | tonb | abrocadabro, don't know, it is not in dmesg |
| 14:14.38 | odb | Alan__: again. are both iso/cd'S listed in your sources.list ? |
| 14:14.53 | Alan__ | just the second one is |
| 14:15.01 | Znh | I added the marilat packages to /etc/sources.list and did apt-get update but win32codecs is still not found |
| 14:15.03 | Alan__ | and ive burnt the cd twice |
| 14:15.05 | odb | if yes, i cant imagine a reason why you should not be able to install the files on them |
| 14:15.07 | seicherlbob | GOT IT! |
| 14:15.10 | seicherlbob | harhar |
| 14:15.11 | Devix | odb: I got errors compiling the source, I downloaded the binary, how do I use that? |
| 14:15.17 | tonb | valdyn, uname-a 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 |
| 14:15.45 | abrocadabro | tonb: is that a 64bits laptop? |
| 14:15.48 | Alan__ | ok never mind |
| 14:16.04 | tonb | abrocadabro, it is something about pcmcia utils needing a different kernel version |
| 14:16.07 | valdyn | tonb: and which kernel are you running on suse? |
| 14:16.11 | Alan__ | thanks for trying, i may just try setting up wireless in text mode |
| 14:16.24 | asg | seicherlbob: did you just symlink /etc/magic to /usr/share/misc/file/magic? |
| 14:16.27 | Devix | can someone help me out with gpart? |
| 14:16.35 | tonb | I have a 32 bit kernel working and now am trying to get Debian AMD64 working |
| 14:16.45 | tonb | I have a 32 bit kernel working under Suse and now am trying to get Debian AMD64 working |
| 14:16.55 | valdyn | tonb: which one |
| 14:17.09 | tonb | AMD Ahtlon |
| 14:17.15 | valdyn | tonb: which kernel |
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| 14:17.22 | tonb | valdyn, uname-a 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 |
| 14:17.26 | abrocadabro | tonb: is AMD64 for 64bits process? |
| 14:17.28 | valdyn | tonb: on suse |
| 14:17.35 | Devix | can someone help me out with gpart? |
| 14:17.39 | abrocadabro | tonb: is your laptop 64bits? |
| 14:17.47 | tonb | valdyn, on suse, I do not remember, but it is 2.6 |
| 14:18.02 | tonb | abrocadabro, yes |
| 14:18.05 | dvm1981 | with ndiswrapper i have been installed my DWL-G122. Now i see that in the GUI of 'Network' in KDE there are now an 'Wireless LAN card wlan0' but the x option is not activated, i have config it to DHCP so working but not here. The card desactivated constantly and not led on the DWL122 of activity |
| 14:18.07 | valdyn | tonb: dpkg -l hotplug |
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| 14:18.15 | valdyn | tonb: ops: dpkg -l hotplug | tail -1 |
| 14:18.16 | Viper12 | you mean gparted Devix? |
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| 14:18.18 | odb | Devix: as i told you already, i dont remeber many things about it. I was using the man page |
| 14:18.42 | ZiDaNe | how to install new locale? Which packages do I have to install/update ? |
| 14:18.42 | odb | give it a try and make a backup of your important files :) |
| 14:18.55 | dvm1981 | so thinking that the USB key is not on |
| 14:18.56 | asg | ZiDaNe: /msg dpkg locale |
| 14:18.58 | ZiDaNe | ok |
| 14:19.09 | tonb | valdyn, not sure, I have done the command, it does not seem to be installed |
| 14:19.11 | asg | ZiDaNe: also, /msg dpkg locales |
| 14:19.24 | dvm1981 | Driver intstalled -> OK ...now activate .... |
| 14:19.36 | dvm1981 | How ? |
| 14:19.50 | tonb | valdyn, do you recommend apt-get install hotplug? |
| 14:19.50 | valdyn | tonb: it is installed, if there's no output there's no hotplug installed, now run apt-cache show pcmciautils and read the description |
| 14:19.55 | odb | Viper12: gparted is something diffrent as gpart |
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| 14:20.07 | Viper12 | just wanted to make sure it wasn't a typo. :) |
| 14:20.12 | odb | :) |
| 14:20.46 | tonb | valtdyn, apt-cache show pcmciautils sais installed, arch amd64 |
| 14:21.10 | valdyn | tonb: bullshit, apt-cache show does not tell you if its installed |
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| 14:21.28 | tonb | valdyn, sorry, you are right |
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| 14:21.58 | valdyn | tonb: so read the description, paste it somewhere probably |
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| 14:23.32 | seicherlbob | asg: thanks to you my filerecover process is running!! |
| 14:23.34 | dvm1981 | I reboot the computer and come back again... |
| 14:23.51 | asg | seicherlbob: glad to help |
| 14:24.25 | seicherlbob | asg: oh man, yes you did! |
| 14:24.46 | tonb | valdyn, it's on http://www.tonboelens.nl/perl/wiki_pers.pl?MadWifi |
| 14:24.51 | valdyn | tonb: you kernel ( 2.6.12-whatever ) is not supported or contained in any current debian release |
| 14:25.05 | sdhawley | running etch kernel 2.6.12.1 I can run KDE from a file browser inside gnome but not from gdm also k3b configure can't find KDE |
| 14:25.10 | seicherlbob | asg: lets see if lazarus is able to recover my photos ;) if not, this was the 3rd attempt to do that, i will forget about that.... |
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| 14:25.33 | seicherlbob | asg: i've been working for about a week on that problem and its starting to piss me off |
| 14:25.37 | Devix | odb: I cant even get it working actually :( |
| 14:25.37 | tonb | valdyn, my kernel is 2.6.12-1-amd64-k8 and came with debian amd64 |
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| 14:25.57 | asg | seicherlbob: ouch. Hope you can recover them. |
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| 14:26.17 | valdyn | tonb: probably an old snapshot of etch |
| 14:26.27 | seicherlbob | asg: well, there are a couple of files... but the whole data is 10.5 GB... so it might take a while |
| 14:26.42 | tonb | valdyn, that's correct |
| 14:26.59 | tonb | valdyn, downloaded the mini-iso 2 weeks ago |
| 14:27.02 | odb | Devix: get it using apt & just tpye gpart. You will get some basic infos. More see man page. GL |
| 14:27.05 | valdyn | tonb: ugly |
| 14:27.15 | valdyn | tonb: those are not meant for general use |
| 14:27.16 | odb | you have to be root to use it i guess |
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| 14:27.47 | tonb | valdyn, what do you mean? should I replace it for another installation? |
| 14:27.51 | valdyn | tonb: try 'apt-get remove pcmciautils' and 'apt-get install hotplug pcmcia-cs' |
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| 14:28.18 | valdyn | tonb: or use a recent supported kernel, in that case with pcmciautils |
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| 14:28.41 | tonb | valdyn, hold on, have to leave for 5 minutes |
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| 14:29.23 | thetallcoolone | Something wierd just happened to me, I was browsing the net and all of a sudden the system got me back to the logon screen. any ideas why this happenend? |
| 14:29.35 | Devix | odb: do I also have to boot it? |
| 14:29.44 | Viper12 | was it a microsoft page thetallcoolone ? -grin |
| 14:29.58 | valdyn | thetallcoolone: your X crashed |
| 14:30.03 | thetallcoolone | Viper12: nope |
| 14:30.08 | asg | thetallcoolone: X crashed, restarted, and dumped you back at your *DM |
| 14:30.17 | Viper12 | twas a joke thetallcoolone . asg is correct. |
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| 14:31.50 | thetallcoolone | valdyn: I figured as musch. But why? Could it be that I don't have enough RAM? I'm running Debian 3.1r0a on a P3 667 and 128Mb RAM. |
| 14:32.07 | thetallcoolone | and I had multiple apps running |
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| 14:33.35 | tonb | valdyn, did the apt-get commands |
| 14:33.38 | TBBle | thetallcoolone: Did you happen to have an apt-get upgrade or apt-get dist-upgrade going in the background? |
| 14:33.45 | duckeo | hi, just after some advice as to how I should go about installing the 2.6 kernel |
| 14:33.55 | duckeo | i've got 2.4 -xfs installed without sources |
| 14:34.06 | duckeo | from a basic debian disk |
| 14:34.10 | asg | duckeo: apt-get install kernel-image (pick and install one that suits) |
| 14:34.12 | tonb | valdyn, still no luckk with lspci |
| 14:34.13 | Viper12 | thetallcoolone, there are about a zillion reasons "why" something like that could happen...without knowing more specifically what was going on, that's a hard one to answer. are you back in x yet? |
| 14:34.15 | duckeo | it doesn't have network support for me at the moment |
| 14:34.19 | StuckMojo | anyone seen this gnu solaris distro based on deb? |
| 14:34.21 | duckeo | so I can't just apt-get install :( |
| 14:34.30 | thetallcoolone | TBBle: nope. |
| 14:34.31 | valdyn | tonb: reboot ( i have no idea about pcmcia, cant tell you what exactly to restart ) |
| 14:34.37 | thetallcoolone | Viper12:yes |
| 14:34.38 | Viper12 | StuckMojo, thats nexenta (spelling?). |
| 14:34.45 | duckeo | is there a way I can figure out which packages I'd need to download to go to a 2.6 kernel? |
| 14:34.45 | StuckMojo | Viper12 yeah |
| 14:34.53 | duckeo | I've only got a debian 3.0r1 CD handy |
| 14:34.56 | tonb | valdyn, I'll be back ::-) |
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| 14:35.42 | Viper12 | the best way to try and find out why it crashed thetallcoolone, is to try and duplicate what you were doing...and see if it happens again. If it doesn't, its possible you had a power surge, or a gremline, or a dust bunny, or bill gates looked your way (just kidding)...but....they are 'puters. ;) |
| 14:35.53 | StuckMojo | im just wondering, what's so great about the solaris kernel that makes that a worthwhile venture... |
| 14:36.00 | duckeo | asg: yea unfortunately my current list of apt packages won't have 2.6 in there |
| 14:36.09 | valdyn | thetallcoolone: that's possible, check dmesg for oom killer |
| 14:36.26 | asg | duckeo: any reason you can't get a sarge 3.1 installer cd? |
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| 14:36.37 | valdyn | thetallcoolone: or oom-killer ( dont remember ) |
| 14:36.39 | Viper12 | StuckMojo, the solaris kernel is (as far as it goes).....bullet proof and tested in mission critical environments for years. |
| 14:36.48 | duckeo | asg: it's a bit download just for the kernel |
| 14:36.48 | asg | !tell nipra about away |
| 14:36.49 | duckeo | big* |
| 14:37.12 | StuckMojo | linux 2.2 seems pretty well tested ;) |
| 14:37.15 | thetallcoolone | Viper12: that's cool. I know puters can be "tempermental" sometimes. ;) I'll check dsmg. Thanks |
| 14:37.21 | Viper12 | :) |
| 14:37.23 | valdyn | StuckMojo: it has features that linux does not have, but that's the case vice versa too |
| 14:37.24 | duckeo | i wanted to run a testing release that's pretty up to date afterwards anyway |
| 14:37.33 | asg | duckeo: woody and 2.6 kernels require some shoehorning |
| 14:37.36 | duckeo | so i'm really aiming to get the network card working then do a full upgrade |
| 14:37.44 | StuckMojo | i was never all that impressed with solaris i guess. i preferred digial unix / osf1 |
| 14:37.48 | asg | duckeo: /msg dpkg woody 2.6 |
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| 14:37.52 | smashie | lo .. somehow I cnat get PCI working with my router (SiS5513 chipset) I have the appropiate modules right compiled in my kernel same with PCI .. still syslog says "System doesnt PCI" at startup .. also tried several pci=param options tho .. didnt help at all (while lspci doesnt moan about a nonexisting bus, it simply returns an empty string) |
| 14:37.58 | smashie | what could be the reason of that? |
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| 14:38.11 | Viper12 | the interesting thing is that they're mixing licenses as well.....which is 'interesting' in another sorta' way. they're basing the distro on ubuntu and using the solaris stuff. real hybrid territory. |
| 14:38.12 | StuckMojo | hmph. i guess the virtualization stuff would be nice |
| 14:38.37 | duckeo | asg: thank you, that link looks to have the packages I need :) |
| 14:38.41 | valdyn | smashie: pci does not require specific hardware drivers, only PCI support in your kernel |
| 14:38.49 | smashie | valdyn: which is present |
| 14:39.01 | smashie | but still theres no PCI support |
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| 14:39.10 | valdyn | smashie: so that board has no pci? |
| 14:39.20 | smashie | uhm it does? |
| 14:39.24 | smashie | all of my 2.4 kernels work |
| 14:39.45 | valdyn | smashie: do debian precompiled 2.6 kernels work? |
| 14:39.46 | tonb | valdyn, rebooted, still the error message about pcmciautils needing different kernel |
| 14:39.56 | valdyn | tonb: remove it.. |
| 14:40.03 | tonb | valdyn, still no luck with lspci |
| 14:40.03 | smashie | and wlel my board requires special modules as its a PCI-to-PCI bridge atleats the PCI bridge is |
| 14:40.11 | valdyn | tonb: you dont need pcmciautils if you are using a kernel < 2.6.13-rc1 |
| 14:40.24 | valdyn | tonb: or, as i said, install an up to date debian kernel |
| 14:40.25 | smashie | valdyn didnt try yet .. I'll check it out |
| 14:40.40 | smashie | but probably they will if not well I'll blame the dev-com of the kernel ;) |
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| 14:41.21 | ale_ryu | hi everyone! |
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| 14:41.35 | ale_ryu | I'm having a little problem with alsa |
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| 14:41.58 | valdyn | tonb: maybe you just need a newer kernel aswell to have support for your pcmcia chipset, but since i dont know your suse kernel version, i have no indication at all in that direction |
| 14:42.07 | tonb | valdyn, reinstalled pcmciautils, was not correctly installed. will reboot again |
| 14:42.24 | ale_ryu | Whenever I reboot my machine I have to run alsaconf to reconfigure the sound |
| 14:42.37 | ale_ryu | I've tried alsactl store but doesn't help |
| 14:42.42 | valdyn | ale_ryu: apt-get install alsa-utils |
| 14:42.55 | ale_ryu | I've done that already |
| 14:43.05 | valdyn | ale_ryu: your debian release is > sarge ? |
| 14:43.10 | ale_ryu | etch |
| 14:43.27 | sdhawley | running etch kernel 2.6.12.1 I can run KDE from a file browser inside gnome but not from gdm also k3b configure can't find KDE |
| 14:43.28 | valdyn | ale_ryu: apt-get install linux-sound-base, if its already installed "dpkg-reconfigure linux-sound-base" |
| 14:43.42 | ale_ryu | ok |
| 14:43.47 | ale_ryu | I'll try that |
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| 14:44.33 | TheAsp | Is it possible to get grub working on an A8N with only SATA disks? |
| 14:44.39 | ale_ryu | thanks a lot! |
| 14:44.41 | ale_ryu | bye! |
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| 14:44.44 | valdyn | TheAsp: sure |
| 14:45.45 | TheAsp | valdyn: well, mine doesn't even say GRUB when I try to boot up. Just hangs. Have to boot from a floppy. Debian & Ubuntu.... |
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| 14:46.52 | tonb | valdyn, still no luck |
| 14:47.24 | tonb | valdyn, I would like to reinstall Debian AMD64. Do you recommend a good ISO? |
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| 14:47.32 | valdyn | tonb: find out which kernel suse is using |
| 14:47.38 | mortal | is it possible to change arch in 32 bit debian |
| 14:47.45 | mortal | with apt-get |
| 14:47.46 | valdyn | tonb: i dont think reinstalling makes sense at this point, you can just install a new kernel |
| 14:47.53 | valdyn | mortal: no |
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| 14:49.04 | dvm1981 | some troubles with network after rebooting |
| 14:49.05 | tonb | valdyn, suse is using vmlinuz-2.6.13-15.7-default |
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| 14:49.31 | thetallcoolone | valdyn: I checked dmesg and while I didn't see any "oom-killer" specific lines, there was 3 "oops:000x (x)" with what looks like some sort of dump of what was involved. |
| 14:49.53 | thetallcoolone | valdy: and they all had this line: "Unable to handle kernel NULL pointer dereference at virtual address xxxxxxxx" |
| 14:50.30 | dvm1981 | i have installed the driver of my wifi DLink DWL-G122 USB but the leds of the usb key are not on, thinking its off. How to set it on ? lsusb show the usb key |
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| 14:51.02 | valdyn | thetallcoolone: thats a hardware bug or a kernel bug |
| 14:51.52 | ZiDaNe | can anyone help me changing locales, I followed all the steps I found, even dgkg's but without effect, as when I reboot everything is as it was before changes, with the old locale configuration |
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| 14:52.42 | thetallcoolone | valdyn: my initial Debian install had the 2.4 kernel. I updated to 2.6 thru apt-get. Could that have created a bug in the kernel? |
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| 14:53.24 | dvm1981 | Someone experience with Dlink DWL-G122 USB wifi key ? |
| 14:53.26 | Znh | hm.. what package contains applications such as tracert |
| 14:54.16 | dvm1981 | also need help to get running my second monitor on the same video card |
| 14:54.21 | stew | Znh: apt-cache search traceroute ; /msg dpkg search ; the mtr package privides a nice implementation |
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| 14:54.36 | stew | dvm1981: read the xinerama howto for dual monitors |
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| 14:55.00 | megabit | Hi. |
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| 14:55.36 | dvm1981 | stew : thankx ;-) go to ... |
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| 14:55.44 | megabit | Can you help me with debian + ipcop? |
| 14:55.51 | britt | hey, I have a question for you all. |
| 14:56.03 | stew | !ask |
| 14:56.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 14:56.34 | britt | I have snort which I believe is a packet sniffer or some kind of program that shows portscans or what-not |
| 14:56.49 | britt | what can I do if people are doing portscans on my debian box |
| 14:57.34 | TBBle | britt: Try not to have any vulnerable services running on scanned ports. |
| 14:57.46 | dvm1981 | reading on info about Xinerama http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Xinerama-HOWTO/ |
| 14:57.49 | odb | close all un-used ports...firefall script blablub |
| 14:57.53 | odb | britt: |
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| 14:57.59 | britt | in inetd? |
| 14:58.03 | britt | inetd.conf |
| 14:58.03 | britt | ? |
| 14:58.10 | stew | britt: if you are paranoid you can firewall them off: iptables -A INPUT -s 1.2.3.4 -j DROP ; where 1.2.3.4 is the offending ip |
| 14:58.37 | britt | stew: and that will effectively block that ip? |
| 14:58.39 | smashie | valdyn: yup a precompiled kernel works .. thus what you said above namely that only PCI is required for actual PCI support is wrong |
| 14:58.42 | stew | britt: yes |
| 14:58.43 | dvm1981 | thank |
| 14:58.52 | smashie | but still the problem's not solved by knowing this tho |
| 14:58.58 | dvm1981 | stew : to help me setting me on the way |
| 14:58.59 | britt | i did a whois on one and it said it was a freenode ip |
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| 14:59.04 | stew | britt: that will cause the kernel to ignore any packet from that ip |
| 14:59.06 | megabit | I insall debian sarge and after I download icop and read readme. And I do: ./make.sh build it and it done allright but i dont know what must i do now. Can you help me?? |
| 14:59.06 | britt | does that mean anything? |
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| 15:00.10 | stew | britt: freenode checks for open port 25 relays iirc. if you were to firewall off freenode, you wouldn't be able to irc. what was the log message you saw that made you think you were being scanned |
| 15:00.33 | stew | megabit: is there an INSTALL or README file that came with it? |
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| 15:01.48 | britt | stew: post in #flood? |
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| 15:02.57 | Yoni | Hello all |
| 15:03.11 | Yoni | What command should I write in Konsole to see some system service status? |
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| 15:03.31 | stew | Yoni: ps aux | grep daemonname |
| 15:04.03 | Yoni | cool, thank you :) |
| 15:04.15 | smashie | hm anyone else got any suggestion why with my kernel PCI will not work while my 2.4 kernels work fine (ofc I did NOT use the same config or so) |
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| 15:05.08 | NOthsouth | Hello, I`m on debian sarge, how can I set widows tranparent/transluncency ? |
| 15:05.11 | NOthsouth | on kde |
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| 15:05.32 | Yoni | & how can I make some system service to work automaticlly from boot? |
| 15:05.41 | azeem | Yoni: update-rc.d |
| 15:05.49 | Yoni | I want to run the "iptables" on my box automaticlly... |
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| 15:05.51 | azeem | Yoni: if they are standard services |
| 15:05.55 | azeem | Yoni: ah |
| 15:06.03 | dvm1981 | i have a video card with one blue entry for the monitor and another white. What is the name of the white type ? Is that a dual head ? or needs two video cards to turn two monitors on ? |
| 15:06.19 | Yoni | DVI |
| 15:06.19 | azeem | Yoni: you need to add the rules to some startup script, not sure whether there is a preferred location for that |
| 15:06.31 | dvm1981 | im reading on tldp |
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| 15:06.41 | dvm1981 | Xinerama |
| 15:06.45 | valdyn | Yoni: there is a ton of firewall frameworks in debian |
| 15:06.59 | valdyn | !ipmasq |
| 15:06.59 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 15:07.06 | dvm1981 | white = DVI |
| 15:07.22 | britt | blue=VGA |
| 15:07.28 | britt | black=9 pin CGA |
| 15:07.29 | Yoni | red? |
| 15:07.30 | britt | :) |
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| 15:07.36 | Yoni | red = self destruction ;-) |
| 15:07.36 | smashie | valdyn any suggestions? |
| 15:07.46 | britt | Yoni: don't press the red button |
| 15:07.47 | dvm1981 | Yoni : ? white = DVI |
| 15:07.48 | stew | britt: that http inspect is that someone was looking for something like /../../../../../../windows/system32/cmd.exe or something |
| 15:08.10 | dvm1981 | britt : thankx |
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| 15:08.26 | britt | Yoni: how many pins? |
| 15:08.34 | Unity | running ubuntu, sometimes i get `cpu temperature above threshold, running in modulated clock mode` in my first console, because my cpu cooling is bad. before i install debian, i was wondering if debian had this feature as well |
| 15:08.48 | stew | britt: if you try to do something about every time you get scanned or every time a exploit is attempted on a public facing server, you WILL drive yourself insane |
| 15:08.54 | duckeo | with the precompiled kernel packages, is there a way to tell what has been compiled into them? (i.e. xfs support) |
| 15:08.58 | britt | stew: okay. |
| 15:09.10 | stew | duckeo: read /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 15:09.25 | dvm1981 | So on my video card my DVI output show rose color it's normal ? |
| 15:09.34 | dvm1981 | on the monitor |
| 15:09.34 | britt | stew: getting hacked again is not something I want. but doing that is probably going overboard. |
| 15:09.40 | valdyn | smashie: no it is not wrong. |
| 15:09.59 | stew | britt: do you know how you got hacked last time? |
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| 15:10.16 | smashie | valdyn: well why not? my kernel has PCI aswell so doe sthe debian precompiled one but the precompiel done probably has more modules due to the initrd and is thus capable of loading/doing something I forgot |
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| 15:10.30 | britt | stew: how exactly, no....I didnt think I could ever be targeted, so I was real lazy...using dictionary word passwords, etc. |
| 15:10.31 | smashie | if it was just dependent on wether PCI is in the kernel or not |
| 15:10.38 | duckeo | stew: any way to do it before installing it? i'm worried this precompiled image won't boot because there isn't XFS support |
| 15:10.46 | smashie | then it would work with my lkernel aswell, wouldnt it |
| 15:10.50 | valdyn | smashie: there's not more to it. |
| 15:10.59 | stew | duckeo: all of the precompiled images have xfs support |
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| 15:11.28 | duckeo | ah that'll do me, thanks |
| 15:11.43 | valdyn | smashie: grep -i config_pci /boot/config-$(uname -r) | tail -1 |
| 15:11.44 | blondie | hello kids |
| 15:11.46 | _michael_ | Hello!! |
| 15:11.49 | britt | stew: perhaps the intuder just walked in the open door.... |
| 15:11.52 | stew | duckeo: you could apt-get -d install package ; mkdir /tmp/kernel ; dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/packagename.deb /tmp/kernel ; less /tmp/kernel/boot/config-2.x.x.-1-686 or whatever |
| 15:12.07 | stew | duckeo: the -d means download only, the -x extracts it into /tmp/kerenl |
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| 15:12.52 | smashie | valdyn: CONFIG_PCI_NAMES=y |
| 15:12.54 | valdyn | smashie: grep -i config_pci /boot/config-$(uname -r) | head -1 even |
| 15:12.56 | stew | britt: be extra careful will 3rd party software you install into apache, that's how a majority of the exploits i see start |
| 15:13.06 | valdyn | smashie: sorry, use head instead of tail |
| 15:13.13 | smashie | CONFIG_PCI=y |
| 15:13.19 | britt | stew: the only iffy software I use is phpbb |
| 15:13.30 | stew | britt: that has had many recent exploits |
| 15:13.33 | britt | stew: but its the newest one, 2.0.18 i think |
| 15:13.39 | britt | ah. |
| 15:14.27 | smashie | valdyn: I compared the config of the precompield kernel with mine |
| 15:14.28 | asuffield | anything written in php is probably a disaster waiting to happen |
| 15:14.41 | asuffield | something about that language attracts developer idiocy |
| 15:14.48 | smashie | as far as the PCI section is concerned they're identical |
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| 15:14.50 | phuqmnb | anyone have success getting Debian to authenticate domain username/passwords? |
| 15:15.01 | smashie | thus it is NOT pci dependent |
| 15:15.31 | valdyn | smoser: it is, maybe your kernel is broken, i cant tell what's wrong, however there is no hardware specific pci support |
| 15:15.34 | asuffield | phuqmnb: you mean samba? that's usually pretty easy |
| 15:15.35 | smashie | it simply cnat be otherwise -as I mentioned before- it would work |
| 15:15.50 | britt | asuffield: plus I made some scripts to show df and uptime... |
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| 15:15.55 | smashie | valdyn: the kernel is not broken I matched md5sum after downloading tho |
| 15:15.57 | MrKeuner | hi, which is the meta package to compile programs and create deb packages? |
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| 15:16.05 | TBBle | phuqmnb: I imagine they did. Mind you, it's not clear what you want, so hard to say for sure. |
| 15:16.18 | valdyn | smashie: which one is it? |
| 15:16.22 | smashie | and I tried to compile it for about the last 16 hours (everytime I downloaded it again -ofc I changed mirrors- but still md5sum matches) |
| 15:16.31 | smashie | 2.6.12 |
| 15:16.31 | stew | britt: it seems like php vulnerabilities come in sets, they find one exploit it, it gets patched, but they aren't always careful to patch all the other similar vulnerabilities... |
| 15:16.32 | phuqmnb | asuffield:yeah, I have samda talking to it...I can run wbinfo, etc., but I doesn't work trying to log in using gdm |
| 15:16.36 | smashie | 2.6.12.6 to be precise |
| 15:17.06 | asuffield | phuqmnb: can id find usernames from the domain? |
| 15:17.09 | stew | MrKeuner: checkinstall? |
| 15:17.28 | phuqmnb | yes...and verify passwds |
| 15:17.34 | phuqmnb | PAM? |
| 15:18.00 | smashie | I wouldnt ask in here if I didnt know it myself .. its weird and well I am using *nix for 8 years right now so I am not someone that anyone cna make a fool of like with your head/tail |
| 15:18.02 | asuffield | phuqmnb: I said 'id', not 'it' |
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| 15:18.42 | britt | stew: alright. I just hope that Linode understands that stuff happens, they seemed pretty upset the last time i got hacked. |
| 15:18.44 | valdyn | smashie: that error has nothing to do with unix really, but with a kernel bug |
| 15:18.45 | smashie | if I say the appropiate settings are built in the kernel then they ARE in there .. maybe I should blame some kerneldevs (I know some tho) |
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| 15:18.59 | smashie | valdyn: wlel *nix is aswell linux meant that I am working with bsd and linux |
| 15:19.12 | smashie | valdyn: well how cna it be a kernel bug if the etch image I just tried |
| 15:19.15 | smashie | is 2.6.12 aswell |
| 15:19.59 | TBBle | phuqmnb: You'll need to set up PAM, yes. Using pam_winbind and optionalliy pam_krb5 if you want kerberos tickets auto-fetched. (I found pam_krb5 optional between required pam_unix and required pam_winbind sometimes worked for me) |
| 15:20.57 | phuqmnb | TBBle:I am new at setting up PAM, any links with some good info? I have seen someone locked out because they got it wrong |
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| 15:21.43 | NOthsouth | how can I see my XFREE version ? |
| 15:21.56 | Kvant | NOthsouth, X -version |
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| 15:21.57 | TBBle | Not off hand. And yes, you can get locked out easily. Keep a root console logged in while you do it, until you're _sure_ it's working (including able to log in to local root when winbind's not running!). I'd post my configs to auth against AD, but the laptop's packed away just now. |
| 15:22.06 | NOthsouth | Kvant, ths |
| 15:22.06 | Meni | hello - has anyone ever managed to install mod-ssl on apache on a running apache server? |
| 15:22.07 | NOthsouth | x |
| 15:23.05 | phuqmnb | TBBle:thats alright, I am just needing some direction on what to look for, set up, etc. |
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| 15:23.24 | phuqmnb | Meni:Apache2? |
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| 15:23.29 | Meni | nop - 1.3... |
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| 15:23.42 | hashar | dpkg> package authentication |
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| 15:23.49 | hashar | !dpkg package authentication |
| 15:23.55 | phuqmnb | Meni:All I know is a2enmod ssl on 2.x |
| 15:23.58 | TBBle | phuqmnb: I'd be surprised if there's not a howto around, but I don't remember using one for my own setup. the winbind docos helped, but didn't cover getting krb5 tickets as well. |
| 15:24.24 | Meni | looking on this blank screen for two day |
| 15:24.26 | Meni | s |
| 15:24.38 | Meni | found a couple of how to's but they both refer to a clean install |
| 15:24.49 | Meni | AND they want me to compile from scratch |
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| 15:24.57 | Meni | i always use apt-get |
| 15:24.58 | TBBle | apt-get install apache-mod-ssl doesn't do it? |
| 15:25.04 | Meni | tried it |
| 15:25.16 | Meni | and everything seems to be in order - just no https... |
| 15:25.17 | Meni | lol |
| 15:25.18 | phuqmnb | TBBle:ok, what were though 2 things you said? |
| 15:25.21 | TBBle | Uh, libapache-mod-ssl rather. |
| 15:25.33 | bigwig | hello i have an acer travelmate notebook with ich6m sata controller in it |
| 15:25.38 | blastmanu | hi |
| 15:25.46 | Meni | yes yes |
| 15:25.50 | Meni | but it doesn't work |
| 15:25.57 | Meni | going crazy here |
| 15:26.00 | bigwig | when i first installed debian sarge it recognized my harddisk as hdc |
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| 15:26.08 | TBBle | Did you check if the ssl module's being _loaded_ by Apache? The autoconfiguring stuff may not be loading it if you've not configured a stanza it recognises. |
| 15:26.21 | Meni | how do you check iit? |
| 15:26.37 | TBBle | Meni: error log I would expect. Turn on SSL logging and see if one gets created |
| 15:26.47 | Meni | ok |
| 15:26.50 | Meni | trying... |
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| 15:27.17 | bigwig | after it I downloaded kernel 2.6.15, and if i try to use ahci, it tells me "probe failed with error = -12"; if i try to use ata_piix, kernel panic, unable to mount root fs |
| 15:27.17 | valdyn | smashie: do you have sysfs compiled in and mounted? |
| 15:27.26 | bigwig | could anyone help me? |
| 15:27.39 | TBBle | phuqmnb: Uhh... Where you've got pam_unix in the gdm config (prolly inside common-auth) you follow it with optional auth pam_krb5 (options) and then required auth pam_winbind or something of the sort. |
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| 15:28.00 | Meni | do you think tha if i will upgrade to apache 2 the problem will be solved? |
| 15:28.03 | phuqmnb | TBBle:thanks |
| 15:28.11 | TBBle | phuqmnb: In fact, I'd suggest ignored krb5 for the moment, and getting pam_winbind working. The samba docs demonstrate that, and were written by Steve Langasek, one of the Debian PAM maintainers (amongst other things) |
| 15:28.20 | phuqmnb | TBBle:that at least gives me a starting point |
| 15:28.29 | pawdro | is emacs or xemacs good for riting in latex? |
| 15:28.29 | pawdro | writing |
| 15:29.17 | rootnoverify | yeps |
| 15:29.33 | MrKeuner | stew/ no |
| 15:29.39 | MrKeuner | stew/ build_essentials was it |
| 15:29.48 | TBBle | Once you have pam_winbind working, try pam_krb5 optional right before it, and you _might_ (it used to work, hasn't been recently) get a kerberos ticket (use klist to check) at login time, which menas smbclient -k and cups printing to AD-connected print servers will work nicely, giving a near-correct Single Sign In experience. |
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| 15:30.04 | TBBle | Meni: Maybe, but that shouldn't be neccessary. |
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| 15:31.04 | TBBle | Meni: I _have_ libapache-mod-ssl running on a Sarge box. But I set it up during Woody, so don't recall what I did. Check the httpd.conf and be sure it's loading the mod-ssl module. You should also see MOD-SSL/xx in the server signature. |
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| 15:32.09 | ratschnowski | hello, can anyone explain me the following error: |
| 15:32.11 | TBBle | Meni: Check for "LoadModule ssl_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_ssl.so" in modules.conf |
| 15:32.14 | ratschnowski | fatal: fstat flow pipe write descriptor: Value too large for defined data type |
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| 15:35.27 | Ralf | Hallo |
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| 15:36.02 | TBBle | Meni: If it's not there, /usr/sbin/apache-modconf apache enable mod_ssl. If it is there, it should be working. |
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| 15:36.44 | Acidic32 | how do i install TCL |
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| 15:36.45 | Acidic32 | ? |
| 15:36.45 | josep_ | why can't debian packages updated with apt-get be authenticated? (observed this since 2~3 days ago) |
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| 15:37.03 | bigwig | bye |
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| 15:37.28 | asg | Acidic32: apt-cache search tool command language |
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| 15:37.43 | asuffield | josep_: because you haven't read the topic |
| 15:38.51 | josep_ | asuffield: argh, looks like I just read half of it, sorry |
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| 15:39.15 | pawdro | how to highlight syntax in xemacs (for latex lang)? |
| 15:39.37 | asuffield | M-x font-lock-modem, how else? |
| 15:39.41 | asuffield | argh |
| 15:39.45 | asuffield | font-lock-mode, obviously |
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| 15:41.38 | kuja | W: There are no public key available for the following key IDs: |
| 15:41.40 | kuja | 010908312D230C5F |
| 15:41.44 | kuja | I get a bunch of these when running `apt-get update` |
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| 15:42.25 | Nostur | can anyone tell me if there is any possibility that grub will make device.map by itself? that it will map the partitions ? |
| 15:42.32 | asg | kuja: /msg dpkg 2006 key |
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| 15:42.51 | hanasaki | anyone help w/ exim? i have two exim clients sending mail via one exim server... one works.. the other gets this in the log on every send.... 2006-01-07 09:28:19 H=frontal-lobe.home.hanaden.com (localhost) [10.1.1.30] U=Debian-exim F=<> rejected RCPT <root@hanaden.com>: "Invalid domain or IP given in HELO/EHLO" |
| 15:42.51 | hanasaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:43.23 | kuja | Nostur: You're a life saver |
| 15:43.28 | kuja | Thanks |
| 15:43.31 | Nostur | wtf ? |
| 15:43.38 | Nostur | i didnt do anything dude |
| 15:43.43 | kuja | err |
| 15:43.44 | Nostur | imho u mean asg |
| 15:43.44 | kuja | asg |
| 15:43.46 | kuja | :) |
| 15:43.46 | Nostur | :)) |
| 15:44.04 | britt | hanasaki: does the domain hanaden.com match the ip of the destination host? |
| 15:44.07 | Nostur | can anyone help me with it ? |
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| 15:44.50 | hanasaki | britt: host hanaden.com |
| 15:44.50 | hanasaki | hanaden.com mail is handled by 10 smtp.hanaden.com. |
| 15:45.09 | hanasaki | not sure what you mean |
| 15:45.12 | hanasaki | sorry.. pls exima |
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| 15:45.17 | hanasaki | pls explain |
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| 15:46.20 | smashie | valdyn: sysfs is compiled in yes |
| 15:46.24 | smashie | but not mounted |
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| 15:46.48 | hanasaki | ?? |
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| 15:47.16 | britt | hanasaki: i lost your post with the log? |
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| 15:47.37 | hanasaki | my post wth the log? huh? |
| 15:47.47 | britt | hanasaki: the mail log |
| 15:48.03 | hanasaki | can i pm it to you britt ? |
| 15:48.11 | britt | sure |
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| 15:49.04 | hanasaki | pasted |
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| 15:49.06 | hanasaki | the stuff from firewall aka portal works |
| 15:49.10 | hanasaki | from host fred doesnt |
| 15:49.12 | ecidadania15 | oi |
| 15:49.14 | hanasaki | both on the same subnet |
| 15:49.16 | hanasaki | both in the same domain |
| 15:49.18 | ecidadania15 | oi |
| 15:49.20 | quiet | what would be the best filesystem to use on a small office fileserver... not totally immune to power failure... serving to Windows clients.. mostly Microsoft Word documents and FileMaker Pro databases.. |
| 15:49.20 | ecidadania15 | oi |
| 15:49.21 | ecidadania15 | poi |
| 15:49.21 | ecidadania15 | poio |
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| 15:49.41 | britt | hanasaki: oi |
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| 15:50.05 | resiak | quiet: ext3 is safe. |
| 15:50.20 | resiak | quiet: (although my ext3 partition has badness more often than do my xfs ones. YMMV.) |
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| 15:50.32 | quiet | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:50.50 | quiet | it has a primary drive and 2 80 GB drives for keeping backup to disk |
| 15:50.54 | plb | hey guys I'm writing a paper for school....just looking for a good router to use |
| 15:51.00 | plb | any recommendations |
| 15:51.23 | quiet | resiak, so xfs is pretty resillient to power failure? |
| 15:51.41 | resiak | quiet: No, it's not. Not on commodity hardware. |
| 15:51.51 | quiet | ok |
| 15:51.58 | phuqmnb | I am looking for a good debian based gateway/firewall solution...somthing simular to Clarkconnect. I am thinking about just building my own using Sarge |
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| 15:52.17 | resiak | quiet: I'm just remarking that, in normal use, I seem to get ext3 breakages. |
| 15:52.22 | quiet | phuqmnb, it's not debian.. but i like SmoothWall |
| 15:52.30 | quiet | resiak, |
| 15:52.31 | quiet | okay |
| 15:52.32 | resiak | quiet: If you keep backups ... then you're fine. |
| 15:52.42 | quiet | okay, thanks. |
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| 15:53.04 | phuqmnb | I like Smoothwall....seems a bit buggy though |
| 15:53.22 | quiet | phuqmnb, hasn't been for me... i've been running one for about a year and a half.. |
| 15:53.30 | quiet | on an old IBM aptiva |
| 15:53.35 | quiet | 200 Mhz pentium mxx |
| 15:53.37 | quiet | mmx* |
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| 15:53.47 | phuqmnb | I was reading some things on the new version...3.0 I think |
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| 15:54.11 | quiet | oh.. 3.0 is still beta |
| 15:54.13 | quiet | lol |
| 15:54.15 | quiet | maybe even alpha |
| 15:54.20 | phuqmnb | that would explain it |
| 15:54.22 | phuqmnb | hahaha |
| 15:54.58 | phuqmnb | what packages would I need to get if I build my own? Webmin, dhcp? |
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| 15:55.54 | pink1 | I see packages.debian.org is down - any one got any insights? |
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| 15:56.00 | hanasaki | britt: any thoughts on my exim? |
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| 15:57.43 | adii | i wanna automate a task ("sh task.sh") so it is performed every day at 1am , how should i do ? |
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| 15:58.05 | asg | adii: cron |
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| 15:59.18 | asg | pink1: "We're working on resurrecting this service but it will take some time. |
| 15:59.42 | pink1 | Asg: yes - I saw that |
| 15:59.44 | smashie | valdyn: why did you ask? |
| 16:00.00 | pink1 | I was wonedering what "some time" is |
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| 16:00.27 | asg | pink1: dondelelcaro might know |
| 16:00.34 | ratschnowski | no one knows about this error? fatal: fstat flow pipe write descriptor: Value too large for defined data type |
| 16:00.41 | ratschnowski | is it a ressourceproblem? |
| 16:00.49 | pink1 | asg: ok |
| 16:00.50 | outlaw_ | I'm looking for some help compiling a program(s) from a CVS repository |
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| 16:01.29 | outlaw_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:02.06 | asg | outlaw_: is there not a configure script? |
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| 16:02.41 | asg | outlaw_: if not, then you need the autoconf package and maybe libtool |
| 16:02.49 | outlaw_ | As far as I can tell the autogen.sh script creates the configure script |
| 16:03.05 | pink1 | I am looking for a cd/dvd suite to run on Sarge on my laptop - play, rip, record, etc - - any good pkgs recommended? |
| 16:03.07 | pawdro | where is configuration file for locale? |
| 16:03.14 | hoopotus | Hi. Does anyone have a idea how to remove the errors that come everytime I login or go superuser. The system works fine but synaptic won't start because of that. "configuration error - unknown item 'QUOTAS_ENAB' (notify administrator)" - it comes on six rows with each a different thing between ' ... ' |
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| 16:03.53 | asg | pawdro: /msg dpkg locales |
| 16:03.55 | outlaw_ | are you talking to me pawdro? |
| 16:04.10 | pawdro | outlaw_ no generally |
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| 16:04.35 | adii | ok thanks asg got it working |
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| 16:05.46 | pawdro | how to solve it ? locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 16:06.18 | zumbi | does somebody have libapache-gallery running on apache2 ? |
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| 16:06.28 | valdyn | smashie: lspci needs sysfs |
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| 16:09.21 | kilo | where are /sbin/ifconfig files, how do I manually change the ip address for a device? |
| 16:09.52 | zumbi | kilo: man ifconfig |
| 16:09.53 | valdyn | smashie: alternatively it will use /proc/bus/pci, that you might be missing too |
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| 16:10.11 | kilo | ok |
| 16:10.12 | GNULinuxer | how do I close a bug in the debian BTS? |
| 16:10.14 | azeem | kilo: or maybe you mean you want to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:10.30 | azeem | GNULinuxer: why do you need to close it? |
| 16:10.38 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
| 16:10.40 | kilo | azeem, I cant see vmnet8.... which is vmwares |
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| 16:10.47 | GNULinuxer | azeem: it was an ITP and the package has been uploaded |
| 16:10.59 | azeem | GNULinuxer: are you the maintainer? |
| 16:11.11 | GNULinuxer | azeem: of that package, yes |
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| 16:11.34 | azeem | GNULinuxer: then read up on Bug closing in the developer's reference |
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| 16:12.32 | Trigger13 | does anyone know a programm which makes it possible to move a programm from the taskbar to the system tray? |
| 16:12.42 | Trigger13 | i'm using xfce btw |
| 16:13.01 | darkskiez | is there a way i can slow my mouse down in gnome? the acelleration and sensitivity are at the bottom of the sliders |
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| 16:13.45 | valdyn | darkskiez: look if you have 2 mouse sections in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, both pointing to a working device node |
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| 16:14.21 | outlaw_ | I would check on the xfce irc channel Trigger |
| 16:14.29 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
| 16:14.31 | Flimzy | darkskiez: in your xorg.conf file or with gpm (if you're using it) |
| 16:14.47 | Flimzy | well I'm using todays bcm43xx driver... but still can't connect to an unencrypted ntwork |
| 16:15.04 | Trigger13 | outlaw_, is an idea ;) |
| 16:15.24 | britt | hanasaki: so you're just sending mail from one server to another and it gives you this error, only on one side |
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| 16:16.08 | darkskiez | valdyn: Ahh, thats why it was moving in two pixel chunks, thanks. gonna give this a shot again |
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| 16:17.04 | GNULinuxer | azeem: it's nnn-done@bugs.debian.org ... thanks for the tip in any way |
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| 16:21.24 | madroach | Hi, since yesterday I always get an GPG error about missing public key when I try to do an apt-get update. When I try to install packages apt-get failes to authenticate them. How do I fix this? |
| 16:21.57 | azeem | madroach: read the /topic |
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| 16:22.21 | madroach | azeem: ohh, thanks ;) |
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| 16:22.56 | darkskiez | valdyn: didnt help :/ I had a look at man 4x mouse, and i?m not sure what if any i should add to slow this beast down |
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| 16:23.35 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
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| 16:25.33 | Chico-SP | Hi, I Have a Old Machine (Pentium MMX) with a USB Card (PCI). At Gpm mouse works fine. But when I try ro tun X, it says "No devices detected". How to make the mouse work at X? |
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| 16:26.09 | dvs | Chico-SP: You have to set the mouse device to /dev/gpmdata |
| 16:26.17 | valdyn | !mouse 2.6 |
| 16:26.17 | dpkg | mouse 2.6 is probably see: http://kerneltrap.org/node/2199 |
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| 16:27.42 | Chico-SP | dpkg kernel |
| 16:27.45 | dpkg | Linux kernel versions, stable: 2.6.15, snapshot: 2.6.15-git3, 2.4: 2.4.32, prepatch: 2.4.33-pre1, 2.2: 2.2.26, prepatch: 2.2.27-rc2, 2.0: 2.0.40, -ac patch: 2.6.11-ac7, -mm patch: 2.6.15-mm2 |
| 16:27.45 | valdyn | darkskiez: is it a ps2 mouse? |
| 16:27.51 | darkskiez | valdyn: yes |
| 16:28.06 | Chico-SP | dpkg: kernel 2.4.26 |
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| 16:28.20 | Chico-SP | dvs: Yes |
| 16:28.27 | valdyn | darkskiez: you can pass settings directly to your kernel, like psmouse_rate=70 psmouse_resolution=200 |
| 16:28.32 | dvs | ??? |
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| 16:29.23 | cyzie | mmm..anybody has goood guidelines on how to install vmware on debian ? |
| 16:29.24 | valdyn | darkskiez: read linux/Documentation/kernel-paramters.txt |
| 16:29.32 | darkskiez | valdyn: thanks for the pointers |
| 16:29.35 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
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| 16:30.51 | scytheman | does anybody know some script/program/whatever to create such code-statistics: http://lwn.net/Articles/166603/ ? i need something for own code. and no, i don't have cvs or anything similar |
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| 16:32.09 | Chico-SP | dvs: Yes, I have set the mouse device to /dev/gpmdata |
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| 16:33.03 | hehelol | Is it ok to use a mixture of 64bit and 32bit repositries? |
| 16:33.07 | dvs | Chico-SP: in /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 16:33.10 | valdyn | hehelol: no |
| 16:33.43 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
| 16:34.51 | hehelol | I have 64bit debian, I also want to install apps, what do you reccommend |
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| 16:36.15 | burnin | [necro]: are you sure apache is configured to run cgi scripts? |
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| 16:36.15 | Acidic32 | i get error with my eggdrop saying TCL is to old |
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| 16:36.23 | Acidic32 | yet i installed the latest with apt-get install tcl8.4 |
| 16:36.40 | [necro] | burnin: apache was installed and config'ed as a dependancy of nagios - if it isnt, ill be sure to file a bug :) |
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| 16:37.20 | [necro] | how do i check if apache is config'ed to run cgi's ? its not apache2 btw |
| 16:37.48 | burnin | [necro]: first thing I would check is the log file for apache and nagios |
| 16:38.02 | The_Only` | hi |
| 16:38.14 | pawdro | where i can change LC_ALL variable? |
| 16:38.42 | [necro] | then it appears it is config'ed to run cgi's. no errors of any sort. plus, /etc/apache/modules.conf loads a mod cgi |
| 16:38.42 | burnin | [necro]: /vat/log/nagios/nagios.log and /var/log/httpd/error_log or something like that. |
| 16:38.43 | [necro] | LoadModule cgi_module /usr/lib/apache/1.3/mod_cgi.so |
| 16:38.49 | [necro] | ^^ |
| 16:38.50 | The_Only` | i have just compiled kernel 2.6.14.5 but there is no initrd image in /boot/ O.o |
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| 16:39.10 | dvs | The_Only`: Did you use the --initrd option with make-kpkg? |
| 16:39.44 | burnin | [necro]: and do you have a ScriptAlias pointing to the nagios/cgi dir? |
| 16:39.44 | The_Only` | oops |
| 16:39.45 | The_Only` | ^^ |
| 16:39.48 | [necro] | yes |
| 16:40.19 | [necro] | ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/nagios /usr/lib/cgi-bin/nagios |
| 16:40.20 | [necro] | :) |
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| 16:40.55 | burnin | [necro]: and a <Directory> directive that allows ExecCGI? |
| 16:40.59 | [necro] | and this: <DirectoryMatch /usr/lib/cgi-bin/nagios> that has Options ExecCGI among other things. |
| 16:41.02 | [necro] | yep. |
| 16:41.08 | burnin | k |
| 16:41.19 | burnin | [necro]: how bout the logs? :) |
| 16:41.33 | [necro] | logs report no errors of any sort. both, apache and nagios |
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| 16:45.09 | sonyman | I added a deb-src line for sid to my apt sources (I'm running etch) yet when I try to get apt to fetch and build kdebase its pulling 3.4.3 instead of 3.5.0. |
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| 16:45.25 | [necro] | i've apt-get install'ed nagios-text and it seems to be working, as in i can go to http://localhost/nagios .. i logged in as nagiosadmin (which in /etc/nagios/cgi.cfg is authorized to view and do everything). however, when i go to nagios and login as nagiosadmin and try to view anything, it tells me i do not have permission to view it.. any ideas? |
| 16:45.48 | chealer | sonyman: what's your question? |
| 16:46.06 | sonyman | chealer, how can I get it to fetch 3.5.0 instead? |
| 16:46.09 | _SerhaT_ | sonyman: just to be sure.. did an apt-get update before trying to download it? |
| 16:46.21 | sonyman | _SerhaT_, yes, and I commented out the deb-src line for etch |
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| 16:46.36 | resiak | !info kde-base sid |
| 16:46.39 | chealer | sonyman: why do you want KDE 3.5.0? |
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| 16:46.53 | sonyman | chealer, just because its the latest |
| 16:47.09 | SkArFaCe | whats a good image editing program? |
| 16:47.10 | dvs | !latest |
| 16:47.10 | dpkg | somebody said latest was not meaningful. Latest when? Latest in what distribution? Latest stable or latest development? Refer to software by version number - that's what it's for. Refer to debian by its codename or other identifiable feature: 'woody' (3.0), 'sarge' (3.1), 'etch' (testing), 'sid' (unstable). |
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| 16:47.21 | dvs | Oops |
| 16:47.29 | sonyman | chealer, and I personally consider it stable enough for me. I could use the alioth packages but I'd like to build them myself |
| 16:47.35 | chealer | sonyman: that's not a good reason. if you want the latest software, start by upgrading to unstable |
| 16:47.39 | Tarantulafudge | Does anyone know how to get an ip removed from hotmail's bulk list? |
| 16:47.45 | resiak | Write to MSN? |
| 16:47.51 | Tarantulafudge | resiak: how |
| 16:47.56 | resiak | Tarantulafudge: HTFSIK?! |
| 16:48.07 | Tarantulafudge | resiak: HTFSIK? |
| 16:48.09 | resiak | Tarantulafudge: Visit Hotmail's "Contact us" page? |
| 16:48.10 | resiak | !htfsik |
| 16:48.10 | dpkg | from memory, htfsik is How The Fuck Should I Know? |
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| 16:48.24 | SkArFaCe | LOL |
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| 16:48.31 | Tarantulafudge | resiak: I don't have a hotmail account |
| 16:48.39 | SkArFaCe | does anyone know of a good image editing program |
| 16:48.51 | chealer | sonyman: anyway, until you can find by yourself which version of some program is in some release, messing with anything other than stable and testing is a bad idea |
| 16:48.54 | SkArFaCe | like pspr8 |
| 16:49.01 | resiak | Tarantulafudge: So? |
| 16:49.06 | sonyman | chealer, fair enough |
| 16:49.53 | burnin | [necro]: in your cgi.cfg for nagios do you have use_authentication=1 ? |
| 16:50.10 | kilo | is there a nice front end I can use for Samba, I use Debian sarge? |
| 16:50.11 | burnin | [necro]: and authorized_for_system_information=nagiosadmin |
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| 16:50.29 | burnin | [necro]: and authorized_for_all_services=nagiosadmin |
| 16:50.38 | chealer | kilo: not really. SWAT is a samba frontend |
| 16:50.49 | burnin | [necro]: and authorized_for_all_hosts=nagiosadmin |
| 16:50.58 | kilo | okay thanks |
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| 16:51.12 | [necro] | burnin: yes. ive nagiosadmin appearing in every authorized_for_* string |
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| 16:51.44 | [necro] | i've created another account (htpasswd /etc/nagios/htpasswd.user) and added the username of that account into every authoriuzed_for_* string in cgi.cfg as well - same result |
| 16:51.50 | Devil_Kin | Barby[talkative]: go spam someone else |
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| 16:52.47 | pawdro | is here anyone from Poland, who can help me to enable polish fonts in etch? |
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| 16:53.03 | resiak | !pl |
| 16:53.03 | dpkg | i heard pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
| 16:53.23 | kilo | chealer, cool just installed swat, how i get to the front end then? |
| 16:53.26 | Devil_Kin | does anyone have any idea why the postrm script of my kernel keeps hanging? |
| 16:53.28 | d0ug | i'm looking for Gd, some image editing thing..anyone know off hand? |
| 16:53.51 | burnin | [necro]: dunno man, it strange that nothing shows in the logs. |
| 16:54.20 | Devil_Kin | if run manually it seems to work, but using dpkg --purge it hangs |
| 16:54.28 | The_Only` | d0ug, GD is used in php |
| 16:54.31 | chealer | kilo: try reading the doc |
| 16:54.34 | pawdro | resiak no pole |
| 16:54.35 | ircdevil | anyone have Intel ICH5 i8x0 mic working with alsa && sarge? |
| 16:54.38 | pawdro | on the channel |
| 16:54.58 | d0ug | ok thanks |
| 16:55.07 | kilo | chealer, man swat? |
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| 16:55.22 | [necro] | burnin: im going to apt-get remove nagios/etc and just compile it all from source |
| 16:55.27 | _Sam-- | ive tried using update-alternatives -config x-window-manager |
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| 16:55.36 | _Sam-- | to change my window manager from gdm to kde... |
| 16:55.38 | [necro] | and when it works (i know it will as i just set it up at work from source) -ill file a bug report i guess |
| 16:55.45 | _Sam-- | but no matter what i do my startx loads gnome |
| 16:55.46 | resiak | _Sam--: Neither of those are window managers. |
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| 16:56.15 | _Sam-- | when i startx, i get a gnome...i can type startkde...and get kde within gnome |
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| 16:56.23 | _Sam-- | but i cannot figure out how to get kde to start w/ x |
| 16:56.37 | Fraze | Help! Somehow the sshd in running, and i don't want this demon to be run! i don't want people to connect to my machine, but i want the ssh command to do a secure telneting to others.. how can i do that? |
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| 16:56.39 | [necro] | echo startkde >> ~/.xinitrc |
| 16:56.51 | [necro] | err, 1 > |
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| 16:57.06 | _Sam-- | ty |
| 16:57.32 | dvs | Fraze: I have a file called /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run |
| 16:57.34 | azeem | Fraze: update-rc.d |
| 16:58.12 | _Sam-- | worked perfect...THANK YOU |
| 16:58.22 | strat | Is it possible to drag or somehow move a running application for one desktop to another??? |
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| 16:58.54 | [necro] | _Sam--: yeah, no problem |
| 16:59.05 | Luftzig | I just installed a brand new (well, kinda) cdrom drive, but i can't play any music which makes it almost useless |
| 16:59.07 | azeem | strat: depends on your desktop environment, some can do that I think |
| 16:59.07 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to get diff to ignore differences in newline type? (CR+LF vs LF vs CR) |
| 16:59.16 | dvs | strat: There should be something in the system menu for that window. |
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| 16:59.41 | SerajewelKS | nm, --strip-trailing-cr |
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| 17:00.29 | The_Only` | hm, any idea why alsa can't output sound from more than one process at the same time ? "Device is busy" error is given at the second application |
| 17:00.48 | strat | will gnome??i want to run Adour..use one desktop for the main app and use the other desktop for the mixer...like they do in recording studio but they use seperate monitors..one monitor for the app..like cubase or pro tools and the other monitor for the mixer.. |
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| 17:01.00 | dvs | The_Only`: Because both your applications are using OSS emulation in ALSA |
| 17:01.03 | cyzie | if my system gcc version is different from the kernel when its compile using different gcc version. how do i set environment so that my vmware will use the exact version of my kernel? please help, thx |
| 17:01.03 | baikonur | hi |
| 17:01.12 | Fraze | dvs: what is that file? |
| 17:01.20 | Fraze | azeta: update-rc.d? that to do this that? |
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| 17:01.38 | azeem | strat: in GNOME, right click on the title bar and select "Move to different Workspace..." |
| 17:01.39 | dvs | Fraze: I think sshd checks for the existence of that file and does not run if it finds it. |
| 17:01.43 | The_Only` | ty |
| 17:02.04 | baikonur | if bug was patched in a new version of a package that has been uploaded, when do I can expect the package in the debian repositories? |
| 17:02.05 | strat | lol..that wa simple.. |
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| 17:02.20 | strat | thanks |
| 17:02.27 | Luftzig | I should note that I can't play audio CD, but I can mount data disk wth no significant problem |
| 17:02.27 | dvs | The_Only`: if [ -e /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run ]; then |
| 17:02.43 | dvs | Fraze: if [ -e /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run ]; then |
| 17:02.44 | dvs | oops |
| 17:02.48 | The_Only` | (; |
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| 17:03.11 | AciD | anybody got a regular /etc/lirc/lirc-modules-source.conf file ? I need to see how it's made to elaborate one for my imon.. |
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| 17:04.22 | naoshige | hey ... can anybody help me with this script? it prints a _real sweet_ directory tree: http://pastebin.com/495059 |
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| 17:04.50 | froztbyte | lo all |
| 17:04.57 | Fraze | Anyway.. thanks:) |
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| 17:05.42 | naoshige | hey |
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| 17:08.35 | pawdro | where are consolefonts and keytables? |
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| 17:09.12 | britt | does anybody know if i can overclock a dual ppro system any? |
| 17:09.15 | Luftzig | a cd-rom drive that refuses to play audio, but mounts data disks. anyone? |
| 17:09.29 | delire | ext3 writes a journal file several times an hour. can anyone remember the means to set this time interval? |
| 17:09.37 | dvs | Luftzig: No audio cord? |
| 17:09.46 | delire | i have a memory of a boot argument.. |
| 17:09.56 | britt | Luftzig: or the way you address the drive could be an issue |
| 17:10.07 | britt | Luftzig: cdroms' are mounted via a /mnt entry |
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| 17:10.24 | britt | Luftzig: while auto is played directly from /dev/cdrom or /dev/hdx |
| 17:10.26 | azeem | delire: tune2fs, probably (or tune3fs, whatever is available) |
| 17:11.33 | delire | azeem i have not been able to see anything in there on this, but will keep looking. cheers. |
| 17:12.06 | Luftzig | britt, I'll check the audio cord again, although I'm pretty sure it's connected the way it should. |
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| 17:12.54 | dvs | Luftzig: Or you can check the mixer sliders. |
| 17:13.03 | britt | Luftzig: i was referring more to software, but you brought up an intresting point. I dont think digital audio extraction works or is default in debian. Check mixer too. |
| 17:13.29 | Luftzig | britt, the cdrom mounts fine for data, but not for audio. if I try to mount audio CDs i get an error |
| 17:13.42 | dvs | Luftzig: Ah. you don't mount an audio cd |
| 17:13.54 | froztbyte | bbl |
| 17:15.02 | Luftzig | dvs, ok, so how do I play it? I can't remember how used to play cds in the old drive, as it sucked for to long |
| 17:15.15 | dvs | Luftzig: I use xmms |
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| 17:15.31 | djp | does anyone have any ideas why my adsl connection bombs out half-way through the day? it seems that if i leave bittorrent running, my connection terminates after 4 or 5 hours. any ideas? |
| 17:16.37 | Luftzig | dvs, ok, so I'll check the cord. it's quiet possible I connected it somehow the wrong way. |
| 17:16.59 | chealer | djp: what do your logs say? |
| 17:17.04 | dvs | Luftzig: The worst thing that could happen is that the left and right channels are mixed up |
| 17:17.07 | Luftzig | dvs, do you think I should shut down the computer before doing it? |
| 17:17.14 | dvs | Luftzig: YES! |
| 17:17.19 | britt | Luftzig: right, because you dont mount a audio cd. |
| 17:17.36 | djp | chealer, sorry, where do i locate my logs? |
| 17:17.42 | Luftzig | dvs, well, so, I'lll talk to you later. |
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| 17:17.56 | chealer | djp: man plog |
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| 17:18.00 | dvs | Luftzig: I'll be here for another 40mins |
| 17:18.19 | SerajewelKS | arg, thunderbird is driving me nuts... |
| 17:18.31 | dvs | SerajewelKS: shoot it |
| 17:18.36 | SerajewelKS | i have several accounts on the same server, each requiring me to authenticate with SMTP as a different user |
| 17:18.38 | britt | djp: you're behind a router? mine over-heated and all kinds of stupid crap happened |
| 17:18.39 | Luftzig | britt, yeah, I just heard it from someone else. I'm gonna shut down the computer and check the cords |
| 17:19.04 | britt | Luftzig: tschus |
| 17:19.05 | djp | britt, no just an ethernet connection to a d-link dsl-300t adsl modem |
| 17:19.07 | SerajewelKS | so i have to create multiple SMTP server entries, and assign them to the accounts... and since thunderbird only labels the entry as "server:port" i have to guess which one has the username i'm after. |
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| 17:19.23 | SerajewelKS | i wish thunderbird didn't have this "global smtp server" idea and let me configure a completely different one for each account =/ |
| 17:19.37 | britt | djp: hmm...is the deb dox your only comp...check your logs...dmesg |
| 17:19.52 | britt | /var/log/* |
| 17:19.55 | britt | or dmesg |
| 17:20.01 | dvs | SerajewelKS: You can't with Thunderbird? I know you can with Mozilla. |
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| 17:20.21 | SerajewelKS | dvs: you can use multiple SMTP server configurations, but thunderbird's way of doing is is braindead |
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| 17:20.36 | SerajewelKS | dvs: i have to do twice the work, and then it might actually be able to connect if i'm lucky |
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| 17:20.55 | djp | britt, i just type dmesg, right? |
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| 17:21.23 | hiwk | Got a sequal to the NO_PUBKEY-problem, I've added the thingies on secure-testing-master.debian.net , but my main repository ( ftp.se.debian.org/debian ) keeps nagging. Is it just a wait-and-see kind of problem or is there a solution? |
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| 17:21.33 | SerajewelKS | i have two personal accounts, one work account, one school account, one account for an sf project, and one postmaster account for my postfix server |
| 17:21.42 | SerajewelKS | managing all the smtp servers required is a nightmare |
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| 17:22.02 | SerajewelKS | i wish i could just enter the info per-account instead of "adding a new smtp server" and assigning it to the account |
| 17:22.20 | SerajewelKS | i really hope this is changed in 1.5 |
| 17:22.33 | Fly-Man | Goodevening |
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| 17:22.53 | Fly-Man | I hope somebody can help me with my problem |
| 17:23.04 | Fly-Man | I've downloaded the php4-cli version |
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| 17:23.07 | nm | re * |
| 17:23.14 | Fly-Man | but how to include it into my Apache 1.3.33 |
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| 17:23.19 | nm | my debian sarge always load ipw2100 module when start |
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| 17:23.31 | nm | how do i have manual load it if i want ? |
| 17:23.45 | nm | i grep on on /etc but nothing there ? |
| 17:24.03 | denever | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:24.09 | denever | sorry |
| 17:24.30 | dvs | SerajewelKS: You don't like going into the Advanced... setting then selecting the SMTP server? |
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| 17:25.03 | SerajewelKS | dvs: i can't stand it, particularly when i have two accounts that need to authenticate with a different user -- they look the same on the list. i have to guess, and change it if i'm wrong. |
| 17:25.24 | dvs | SerajewelKS: Ok, NOW I see your point. |
| 17:26.10 | SerajewelKS | dvs: thunderbird has this notion that you're going to be using the same SMTP server for all your accounts, and with many ISPs now blocking outbound TCP port 25, that does make a little sense, but there has to be a saner approach for people that need a completely different SMTP configuration for all of their eight accounts. |
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| 17:27.11 | SerajewelKS | dvs: IMO, the account server settings should have fields for SMTP too. i have nothing against a globally-configured default that it will initialize that field to, but having to change it in a completely different location, then come back and assign it seems like extra work. |
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| 17:29.21 | Luftzig | dvs, the cord seems to be connected fine... |
| 17:29.29 | Flimzy | I just set up my SMTP server to require authentication, then accept connections from anywhere |
| 17:29.39 | dvs | Luftzig: How are you trying to play the CD? |
| 17:29.53 | Padnah | I would like recommendations for a web authoring tool in the Debian package. My GUI is KDE. |
| 17:29.53 | Luftzig | dvs, using bmp |
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| 17:30.10 | dvs | Padnah: quanta2 |
| 17:30.24 | delire | Padnah i know many that swear by quanta |
| 17:30.31 | Luftzig | dvs, I tried at first ripping it with grip, which does not work better |
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| 17:30.50 | denever | bye |
| 17:30.52 | dvs | Luftzig: I thought you wanted to play it. |
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| 17:30.56 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: stupid question.. is the CD copy-protected? |
| 17:30.59 | Padnah | dvs and delire, thanks for the recommend. I will install the package and give it a whirl. |
| 17:31.19 | delire | Padnah others like the WYSIWYG of NVU.. |
| 17:31.46 | delire | Padnah i've used neither really but here's the link to nvu http://www.nvu.com/ |
| 17:32.16 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: basically: does the cd work in "real" cd players? does it work in other computers? do other cds work on this computer? |
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| 17:33.52 | a_thing | Are nVidia drivers in the latest Debian? |
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| 17:34.01 | a_thing | The packages part of the site is down. |
| 17:34.03 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, data cd's work. few audio cd's i try doesn't. the specific one I'm trying now is not copy-right protected |
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| 17:34.50 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: do either analog or digital playback work? does one work better than the other? |
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| 17:36.13 | fndude | Hey guys. I want to build a machine, and use it as a template to propigate updates to several other servers. Is there a mechanisim in place for this Debian style? |
| 17:36.44 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, bmp claims that there's no cd in the drive. |
| 17:36.51 | Justin | fndude: cfengine |
| 17:36.59 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: does bmp use analog or digital playback? |
| 17:37.06 | fndude | Justin: thanks for the tip. |
| 17:37.08 | raf256[laptop] | hi my niggas |
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| 17:37.47 | raf256[laptop] | I have an idea to add debian patch to improve man |
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| 17:38.27 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, it can use both, as far I understand. tried it with both settings |
| 17:38.32 | raf256[laptop] | how about creating section 10 of manual which will contain general introductions abou general concepts or systems? |
| 17:38.37 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: sounds like a borked drive then |
| 17:38.53 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: you should be able to get a track list, even if the analog cable is having trouble |
| 17:38.54 | raf256[laptop] | like debian.10 - explain what debian is, www address, mailing listm, irc channel, where to get it |
| 17:39.17 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: and if data CDs work, then it sounds like a drive-related problem. you could try upgrading the firmware. |
| 17:39.19 | raf256[laptop] | linux.10 explaining history, link to kernel.org, some how-to-build source tips, info how to download kernel via apt-get |
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| 17:39.47 | raf256[laptop] | and so on.. it would be nice to see aything after typing "man linux" wouldnt it? |
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| 17:40.22 | SerajewelKS | raf256[laptop]: debian.org, kernel.org |
| 17:40.31 | raf256[laptop] | SerajewelKS: yes, I know |
| 17:40.42 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, when I to test it using beeps preferences, and it says it doesn't get premissions to the device |
| 17:40.48 | raf256[laptop] | SerajewelKS: I would like man to share that info with newbies that type in man debian or man linux |
| 17:40.48 | holycow | raf256[laptop], if you managed to get debian installed, you already know the answers to all of that |
| 17:40.57 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: do you have read/write access to /dev/cdrom? |
| 17:41.04 | BlackJudas | I have added multiple "non-debian" sources to provide packages which are "shady" (such as lame etc), I have two sources that provide lame in my case, and I want to install a certain one.. how do I tell apt to pick a specific source? |
| 17:41.14 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: not true. linux is finally getting popular any meany users have debian preinstalled by friend or PC shop |
| 17:41.18 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, yeah, it 777 |
| 17:41.33 | dvs | Luftzig: It would be better if you part of the cdrom group |
| 17:41.43 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: then it has permissions... |
| 17:41.45 | holycow | raf256[laptop], then its up to the retailer to maintain the customer/vendor relationship? |
| 17:41.46 | dvm1981 | i have a DLink DWL-G122 USB wifi key, i have been installed the driver with ndiswrapper. I see now that in the network in KDE there are a Wireless Lan Card wlan, but it will not activate, how to artivate and so the leds of the USB key on |
| 17:42.03 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: but why not make life easier for newboes? |
| 17:42.10 | raf256[laptop] | if we dont care for newbies |
| 17:42.17 | raf256[laptop] | they will tell linux to fuckoff and go back to windoze |
| 17:42.21 | holycow | well, this is a gnu distro afterall,you go for it |
| 17:42.38 | SerajewelKS | raf256[laptop]: isn't ubuntu the newbie distro? |
| 17:42.39 | holycow | raf256[laptop], linux doesn't exist to convert people off of windows |
| 17:42.41 | Luftzig | dvs, care to explain? I'm not sure i get you |
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| 17:42.43 | raf256[laptop] | that is why maney companies died - bad support |
| 17:42.52 | holycow | as a tangential point, linux doesn't exist to gain market share either |
| 17:42.52 | dvm1981 | In the network GUI in the menu Start > System > Network |
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| 17:42.59 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: so what for do it exist? it is one f the reasons |
| 17:43.03 | dvs | Luftzig: If you were part of the cdrom group, you wouldn't have to change the permissions of /dev/cdrom |
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| 17:43.14 | raf256[laptop] | SerajewelKS: it is, well it can use such man pages as well |
| 17:43.17 | holycow | raf256[laptop], linux cannot die, it doesn't exist to please 'consumers' or 'gain market share' |
| 17:43.28 | holycow | it exists for the sole purpose to satisfy its creators |
| 17:43.30 | Luftzig | dvs, ok, got that... |
| 17:43.31 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: it can die, like BeOs _did_ died. |
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| 17:43.37 | holycow | beos was a company |
| 17:43.44 | SerajewelKS | raf256[laptop]: beos was not really free software |
| 17:43.46 | holycow | gnu/linux is a social movement |
| 17:43.59 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: yes, there are like 0,01% peopel using it but there are too few to maintain so it had to close |
| 17:44.06 | raf256[laptop] | I know |
| 17:44.09 | raf256[laptop] | there is Haiko now |
| 17:44.10 | dvs | Luftzig: Actually, what does "ls -l /dev/cdrom" say? |
| 17:44.10 | holycow | debian will live as long as debian and gnu devs decide to keep on coding, they do it for them selves |
| 17:44.17 | raf256[laptop] | but it dont really live |
| 17:44.20 | welp | how do i need to get my mouse working under X on my laptop (synaptics) |
| 17:44.22 | holycow | raf256[laptop], exactly |
| 17:44.34 | holycow | raf256[laptop], you don't care, so why are you asking others to care? |
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| 17:44.43 | holycow | debian will exists as long as debian devs care to use debian |
| 17:44.47 | raf256[laptop] | where I type I dont care? |
| 17:44.48 | holycow | no more no less |
| 17:44.50 | welp | i've installed: xfree86-driver-synaptics |
| 17:45.04 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: technically. |
| 17:45.22 | raf256[laptop] | it is the biggest sin of linux - not care for newbies, not marketing self |
| 17:45.37 | raf256[laptop] | finally ubuntu is changing that and other distros |
| 17:45.38 | SerajewelKS | raf256[laptop]: so go market it |
| 17:45.39 | holycow | raf256[laptop], you just don't get it. linux doesn't exist to capture market share |
| 17:45.55 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: I do not talk about commercial marketing |
| 17:45.57 | holycow | gnu/linux exists only to satisfy its writers |
| 17:45.58 | dvs | It exists to be useful to techies |
| 17:46.02 | SerajewelKS | raf256[laptop]: why should *we* market it when we don't really care that the whole world use it (as nice as that would be) |
| 17:46.03 | holycow | raf256[laptop], well of course you are |
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| 17:46.26 | raf256[laptop] | SerajewelKS: to have more peoples that can later support it, and some become devels |
| 17:46.26 | holycow | raf256[laptop], go ahead, market it, create a subproject of debian and do all the stuff you think is important |
| 17:46.47 | welp | anyone gonna help with my mouse? |
| 17:46.48 | holycow | raf256[laptop], i don't think it is, and i don't care. you are welcome to contribute |
| 17:46.49 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: man pages .10 would be a tiny addition in that spirit |
| 17:46.57 | holycow | raf256[laptop], sounds like a cool idea, go ahead |
| 17:47.03 | Luftzig | dvs, yoav@yoav:~$ ls /dev/cdrom -l |
| 17:47.05 | Luftzig | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 8 2005-10-21 20:44 /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc |
| 17:47.06 | aleutian | Question: Running Debian 3.1 (sarge): I am trying to install dbus-1-utils via apt-get. I keep getting 'E: Broken packages' Has anyone had similar experiences or have a suggested method to resolve a "Broken packages" error? |
| 17:47.10 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: aha |
| 17:47.18 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: what are the permissions on /dev/hdc? |
| 17:47.22 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: ok, how can I then propose the patch adding section 10 into debian? |
| 17:47.26 | dvs | Luftzig: What does "ls -l /dev/hdc" say? |
| 17:47.28 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: symlinks always (or at least *should* be 777) |
| 17:47.37 | holycow | raf256[laptop], by going through the process of becoming a dd ... |
| 17:47.40 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: ok you dont perhaps see how usefull it might be, but do you see any problem with adding it? |
| 17:47.42 | Luftzig | brw-rw---- 1 root cdrom 22, 0 2005-02-26 08:38 /dev/hdc |
| 17:47.45 | holycow | ... ie. you are hinting at having someone else do it for you |
| 17:47.52 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: there's the problem |
| 17:47.58 | SerajewelKS | Luftzig: add yourself to the cdrom group and log back in |
| 17:48.00 | dvs | Luftzig: And that's why you should be part of the cdrom groups |
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| 17:48.02 | holycow | in which case i suggest you forget about it because no one will do it for you |
| 17:48.10 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: ok. hm I should contact man's DD |
| 17:48.13 | holycow | raf256[laptop], if you wish to become a dd, the info is guess where? |
| 17:48.15 | Luftzig | SerajewelKS, thanks |
| 17:48.20 | Luftzig | dvs, thanks |
| 17:48.21 | dvs | AHEM! |
| 17:48.27 | dvs | That's better. ;-) |
| 17:48.36 | holycow | raf256[laptop], if you expect dds to do your job, forget it, it will never happen, they are busy as it is |
| 17:49.08 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: ok I will see about that DD stuff then |
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| 17:49.20 | holycow | raf256[laptop], see the thing about guys like you is, you mean well but ultimately you are really insulting the whole project because you want SOMEONE ELSE to do all the work FOR YOU |
| 17:49.41 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: no, I wanted to do it myself |
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| 17:49.55 | holycow | raf256[laptop], cool :) hard to tell based on your phrasing :) |
| 17:49.56 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: it does require write access to the repository thats the problem |
| 17:50.18 | holycow | raf256[laptop], well see, that means you gotta become a dd, start today and you will get write access eventually :) |
| 17:50.19 | smo_ | hi, i have a small probblem since i install wine sidenet i think i can t get some keyboards touch like the # for exemple even if i reconfigure console-data..... |
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| 17:50.25 | smo_ | i m on xfce4 |
| 17:50.27 | mustek | hola |
| 17:50.28 | raf256[laptop] | holycow: but I do know in real life one DD perhaps I should talk to im |
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| 17:50.40 | holycow | raf256[laptop], that always helps |
| 17:50.41 | ratschnowski | a question concerning /etc/aliases, after changing that file, do i have to run the command newaliases? |
| 17:50.53 | smashie | valdyn: hm sysfs is a good point yea but then its not just lspci thats not working properly .. all my PCI cards like my NICs do not work |
| 17:50.56 | petemc | ratschnowski: for exim, no |
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| 17:51.07 | Xenguy | !breezy |
| 17:51.12 | Xenguy | gah, sorry |
| 17:51.13 | ratschnowski | and for postfix? |
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| 17:51.24 | petemc | i think so |
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| 17:51.34 | ratschnowski | I just type newaliases or newaliases /etc/aliases ? |
| 17:51.44 | petemc | dunno, i use exim, check the docs |
| 17:51.58 | Xenguy | ratschnowski: just newaliases (as root) |
| 17:52.07 | aleutian | Anyone able to install dbus-1-utils via apt-get on sarge? |
| 17:52.16 | ratschnowski | Xenguy, thx! |
| 17:52.33 | Xenguy | ratschnowski: yw |
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| 17:53.29 | valdyn | !info dbus-1-utils sarge |
| 17:53.35 | dpkg | dbus-1-utils: (simple interprocess messaging system (utilities)), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.23.4-1 (sarge), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 164 kB |
| 17:53.43 | chealer | aleutian: apt-get install dbus-1-utils ? |
| 17:54.01 | chealer | !tell aleutian about bat |
| 17:54.14 | aleutian | Yes, I have done that. |
| 17:54.31 | valdyn | smashie: even when loading the appropriate drivers manually? |
| 17:54.40 | aleutian | I'll get some details on #flood |
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| 17:54.50 | smashie | valdyn: yup |
| 17:54.54 | smashie | theres completely no pci support |
| 17:55.06 | valdyn | smashie: what about X ? |
| 17:55.17 | chealer | aleutian: use a paster if possible |
| 17:55.29 | smashie | X? this is a dedicated mashine tho |
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| 17:55.37 | smo_ | my alt gr and shift touch doesn t work anymore !!!! |
| 17:55.39 | valdyn | smashie: ok |
| 17:55.42 | aleutian | Ok |
| 17:55.45 | sonyman | in Smb4k when I click on a computer it says Opening the wallet failed! Kwallet support will be disabled. Whats the problem? Am I missing the kwallet program or something? |
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| 17:56.33 | chealer | sonyman: ask #debian-kde |
| 17:56.39 | sonyman | k |
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| 17:57.10 | drayen | Hey, i think i may have killed my external hard disk, its formated useing ext3, but it wont mount and e2fsck -b 8193 /dev/sda1 doenst work... is there any more heavy duty / altervative tools for data recovery? i think the drive is working as i can see it in drive management... |
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| 17:57.59 | dvm1981 | holycow raf256[laptop] : for the subject of talking |
| 17:58.06 | dvm1981 | thankx |
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| 17:58.34 | valdyn | smashie: now, does mounting sysfs fix lspci ? |
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| 17:58.50 | whisky | Hi guys, should i be worried about this: User popa3d not allowed because shell /dev/null is not executable ... Does it means the password matched but then, the shell couldn't be executed ? |
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| 17:59.11 | aleutian | Ok, I posted detailed info here regarding dbus-1-utils install problem: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1489 |
| 17:59.22 | aleutian | Any help is appreciated |
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| 17:59.49 | valdyn | whisky: in which logfile? |
| 18:00.07 | whisky | valdyn: it's a mail from logwatch... |
| 18:00.14 | smashie | valdyn: would need to try that ..wait |
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| 18:00.56 | valdyn | whisky: some bot tried to log into your system as user popa3d and obviously failed, which is perfect. |
| 18:01.05 | chealer | aleutian: are you sure your sources.list is ok? |
| 18:01.22 | aleutian | When I run an apt-get update I don't receive any errors |
| 18:01.46 | aleutian | I'm not sure if that means my sources.list file is valid though |
| 18:01.49 | chealer | aleutian: are you sure that APT is tracking stable, and not unstable? |
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| 18:02.25 | aleutian | My understanding of apt-get is that you will only track unstable if you specify with the '-t' flag |
| 18:02.35 | whisky | but i have a lot of bot everydays... and never received a message like that... The part that worrying me is : "not allowed because shell /dev/null is not executable" ... Does it means the password matched and then, when the system tried to give him a shell, it failed... ?? |
| 18:02.39 | valdyn | aleutian: no that's wrong |
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| 18:03.05 | chealer | aleutian: no, APT defaults to the highest version if you don't specify a default release. |
| 18:03.06 | aleutian | Ok, maybe that's a start. Should I remove my 'upstable' entries from the list |
| 18:03.17 | chealer | aleutian: why do you have those entries? |
| 18:03.34 | valdyn | aleutian: -t unstable is only required to track unstable of you set default release to something else in /etc/apt/preferences |
| 18:03.35 | aleutian | I'm trying to install beagle |
| 18:03.49 | aleutian | via apt-get |
| 18:03.55 | blondie | is that a dog? |
| 18:03.56 | aleutian | and beagle is not in the stable tree |
| 18:04.16 | whisky | valdyn, i mean, the normal message i receive is this: Failed password for illegal user test from ... and not something about a failed shell execution, you understand my concerns :) |
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| 18:04.33 | Luftzig | dvs, SerajewelKS it works, thanks alot! I'm going to celebrate on some humus |
| 18:04.34 | ceeto | Hi all. Any idea what package kinit is in? (sarge) |
| 18:05.08 | valdyn | whisky: yea, im not entirely sure, but popa3d has no password, so he could log in easily, if shell was not /dev/null |
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| 18:05.37 | valdyn | whisky: test though does not exist, so it fails earlier witha different error |
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| 18:06.15 | chealer | aleutian: are you sure it's a good idea to install unstable's beagle on stable? |
| 18:06.26 | whisky | valdyn, mmm, i think i'm going to list some users that should be banned from ssh login ... |
| 18:06.40 | aleutian | So I uncommented out the 'unstable' sources and the dbus-1-utils package installed. |
| 18:06.48 | aleutian | chealer: That's a good question. |
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| 18:06.55 | valdyn | whisky: /dev/null is ok, if an ftp server let in anyone without checking UID, that would be bad |
| 18:07.07 | aleutian | This is my workstation, not a server so I'm less worried about stability. |
| 18:07.17 | reaper | is there any package that installs both apache and tomcat5 and sets them up to work together |
| 18:07.25 | reaper | or do i just have to install separately and link them |
| 18:07.27 | matt_ | Hi! |
| 18:07.42 | blondie | hi matt!!! |
| 18:07.51 | matt_ | does anyone have any problems installing debian using a dlink router? |
| 18:07.53 | matt_ | I do! |
| 18:08.29 | valdyn | matt_: why do you think that dlink router has anything to do with your install problems? |
| 18:08.45 | aleutian | Ooh, now this is interesting. If I try to install beagle (unstable), it literally wants to upgrade every library on my computer. I think I'll just stick to 'find' and 'locate' |
| 18:09.02 | valdyn | !win aleutian |
| 18:09.03 | dpkg | Congratulations, aleutian! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 18:09.05 | chealer | aleutian: sounds sensible |
| 18:09.06 | matt_ | because the installation of debian or kubuntu works using a linksys, but not a dlink |
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| 18:09.47 | matt_ | when the installation goes to get the security updates, linksys = ok, dlink = no go |
| 18:09.49 | valdyn | matt_: it could be setup, not to act as dhcp server. |
| 18:09.53 | aleutian | I could use some coasters. |
| 18:09.55 | NOthsouth | where can I find the fasttrack.so file for add on apollon ? |
| 18:10.10 | smashie | valdyn: exactly the same .. kernel states no PCI support and lspci stays empty |
| 18:10.21 | ceeto | Once I have debian installed, how do I check/change the timezone? |
| 18:10.32 | dselect | any 'debian way' to hardening multiuser environment ? |
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| 18:10.45 | valdyn | dselect: apt-cache search harden |
| 18:10.59 | matt_ | hi valdyn - i am using internet fine using the linksys once installed, |
| 18:11.08 | aleutian | Alright guys you've been a big help. Thanks for the clarification on how apt-get uses stable and unstable sources. |
| 18:11.17 | matt_ | and I have done a ifconfig and i the system has a dhcp ip address |
| 18:11.21 | chealer | ceeto: $ apropos timezone |
| 18:11.28 | seelen | I install squid and iptables ... when I try to open gmail ... its no works ... help please |
| 18:11.45 | seelen | the other page works perfectluy but gmail no |
| 18:12.02 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to encode an 800x600 MPEG-2 video with mpeg2enc? it's complaining that the video is too wide. |
| 18:12.10 | SerajewelKS | **ERROR: [mpeg2enc] Horizontal size is greater than permitted in specified Level |
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| 18:13.12 | drayen | help! i seem to have corrupted both the primary and alternate superblocks on my external 160gb ext3 hard disk, i've tried running e2fsck /dev/sda1 and with -b 8193, but both tell me the superblock is corrupt? ???? help! |
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| 18:13.30 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i recently reinstalled windows on my machine, again installed grub, everything works fine, but... when i try to boot windows, grub prints: Grub loading stage2 and then it goes bavk to OS selection |
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| 18:13.33 | Nostur | can anyone help me? |
| 18:13.38 | seelen | hello |
| 18:14.19 | Scrape | When I plug in my USB mouse, I see the events in syslog showing that it's being loaded, and /dev/input/mouse0 gets created, but it's not accessible via /dev/input/mice. Any thoughts? |
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| 18:15.07 | matt_ | any ideas valdyn? |
| 18:15.34 | valdyn | matt_: nope, no idea whats wrong with your dlink router |
| 18:16.03 | Nostur | valdyn, can you? ^^^ |
| 18:16.05 | smashie | valdyn: any idea left? |
| 18:16.05 | ceeto | hrmm.. for some reason, my debian system is 6 hours ahead.. I'm in US Central Time, I have the right timezone set ... Any suggestions? |
| 18:16.09 | matt_ | its something to do with the dlink settings, and i have tried another dlink and that does not work either |
| 18:16.21 | silveR_bullet | hey, what i ports/protocols i need to forward to get ipv6 working over NAT ? |
| 18:16.29 | matt_ | i just wondered if anyone else has problems installing with a dlink router? |
| 18:16.43 | debiankid | ipv6 ? ufff |
| 18:16.52 | silveR_bullet | yeah ipv6 |
| 18:17.07 | valdyn | smashie: nope, not really, i'd go through options of a known working kernel, that is all |
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| 18:17.13 | debiankid | silveR_bullet ipv6 is not same as ipv4 but ffff. ? |
| 18:17.22 | chealer | ceeto: would it be at UTC? |
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| 18:17.39 | ceeto | Got it.. Thanks!!!!! :) |
| 18:17.51 | silveR_bullet | what do u mean "ffff." ? |
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| 18:18.13 | debiankid | silveR_bullet ffff.65.65.63.36 right? |
| 18:18.15 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i recently reinstalled windows on my machine, again installed grub, everything works fine, but... when i try to boot windows, grub prints: Grub loading stage2 and then it goes bavk to OS selection, can anyone help ? |
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| 18:19.01 | silveR_bullet | debiankid, no it isn't the same |
| 18:19.02 | silveR_bullet | ;-) |
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| 18:19.09 | smashie | valdyn: heh well I dont have a working kenrel 2.6 and tho I dont know what is loaded dynamically by the initrd kernel at bootup |
| 18:19.13 | debiankid | silveR_bullet how come ? |
| 18:19.19 | ThetaWave | What is the package to install to get OpenLDAP? |
| 18:19.33 | nlibbler | Hey how do you change the language the entire system is displayed in? I have exported LC_ALL to ko_KR but it still comes out in english |
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| 18:19.44 | Nostur | ThetaWave apt-get update and then apt-cache search openldap |
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| 18:19.55 | ThetaWave | Nostur: I did that |
| 18:20.01 | Nostur | u have something ? |
| 18:20.25 | Nostur | if not, then google mirrors for it and add it to mirror lsit |
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| 18:20.27 | Nostur | *list |
| 18:20.32 | valdyn | smashie: the initrd does not do anything concerning your issue, debian kernel config is /boot/ |
| 18:20.42 | simonrvn | apt-get install slapd ldap-utils |
| 18:20.48 | smashie | I know wher eteh deb kernel config is tho |
| 18:20.53 | smashie | thing is |
| 18:21.05 | smashie | it might be just ONE module that is loaded or not eithe rits causing non-functionality |
| 18:21.08 | smashie | or its causing functionality |
| 18:21.12 | smashie | hard to know tho |
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| 18:22.24 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i recently reinstalled windows on my machine, again installed grub, everything works fine, but... when i try to boot windows, grub prints: Grub loading stage2 and then it goes bavk to OS selection, can anyone help ? |
| 18:22.35 | nlibbler | Hey how do you change the language the entire system is displayed in? I have exported LC_ALL to ko_KR but it still comes out in english |
| 18:22.50 | valdyn | nlibbler: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 18:22.51 | chealer | nlibbler: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 18:23.02 | nlibbler | I already did that |
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| 18:23.06 | nlibbler | ill try again |
| 18:23.27 | xpato | im having sound trouble getting my soundcard to work |
| 18:23.38 | xpato | Intel Corporation |
| 18:23.38 | xpato | 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) AC'97 Audio Controller (rev 04) |
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| 18:23.51 | valdyn | smashie: take a debian kernel config, use it for your kernel, compile into it disk interface support and file system support. boot it |
| 18:24.05 | valdyn | smashie: after that, strip whatever you think you dont need |
| 18:24.32 | smashie | would be a possibilitx before I'll try something else |
| 18:24.37 | smashie | I'll keep you posted |
| 18:24.48 | valdyn | smashie: alright, good luck |
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| 18:28.39 | SerajewelKS | is there a utility in debian to concatenate two yuv4mpeg streams? |
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| 18:29.45 | a1fa|64 | what pckg has mod_env ? |
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| 18:30.52 | rambo3 | is there a way to manage rsoulution for xsession or window maker from terminal. i get windows that are 10 times larger then screen and cant configure anything from there |
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| 18:31.00 | haji | i installed debian... :D~ |
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| 18:31.14 | deepspaceant | guys is there a way to get bind9 with mysql backend for zones? |
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| 18:32.17 | zidane | I have problem with my nVidia driver and kernel module, it says they're different versions and can't run X server, can anybody tell me how to update both to the same version and repair this ? |
| 18:32.28 | haji | i want to install ajunta...i dled the packages listed in ajunta.org...and some of its dependencies...but i still cant install it... |
| 18:32.39 | haji | is there a ready to install ajunta.deb package? |
| 18:32.43 | chealer | zidane: which release do you run, which versions do you have installed? |
| 18:32.56 | zidane | debian release? testing |
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| 18:33.35 | _rene_ | haji: anjuta is in all debian releases. take it from there... |
| 18:33.39 | Nostur | Hi, i have a problem, i recently reinstalled windows on my machine, again installed grub, everything works fine, but... when i try to boot windows, grub prints: Grub loading stage2 and then it goes bavk to OS selection, can anyone help ? |
| 18:33.55 | _rene_ | haji: or search a backport for sarge if you use sarge |
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| 18:34.24 | EJ | kd ass pakas ? |
| 18:34.26 | haji | i use sarge... |
| 18:34.30 | haji | what is backport? |
| 18:35.26 | haji | i will look in all debian release...thanx... |
| 18:35.34 | haji | going to home now... :D |
| 18:35.42 | a1fa|64 | anybody mod-env? |
| 18:35.44 | zidane | chealer: any ideas ? |
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| 18:35.47 | nlibbler | yeah I used dpkg-reconfigure twice now and no dice on changing the language |
| 18:36.07 | chealer | zidane: which kernel driver and libraries versions do you have installed |
| 18:36.16 | nlibbler | any ideas? |
| 18:36.23 | zidane | nvidia 1.0.7 I think |
| 18:36.29 | zidane | the kernel module |
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| 18:36.44 | zidane | and 1.0.8 for the other .. |
| 18:36.55 | chealer | nlibbler: how do you know it didn't work? |
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| 18:37.24 | zorton | any debian boot cd's that have xfs checkfs support? |
| 18:37.32 | chealer | zidane: the versions are longer than that. try upgrading your kernel module |
| 18:37.38 | zidane | X module is version 1.0.7174 |
| 18:37.53 | zidane | how to do that ? |
| 18:37.57 | zidane | by apt? |
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| 18:38.19 | kass | can I use VIA RAID 1 on debian ? I cant use on FC4 |
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| 18:38.34 | chealer | zidane: there's no nvidia X *module*, but which version is the kernel module at? |
| 18:38.48 | nlibbler | I logged out from console and back in so my etc/profile was read again |
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| 18:39.06 | nlibbler | I put export LC_ALL=ko_KR in my profile |
| 18:39.08 | kass | or VIA VT6410 controller supported from debian? I cant find any information on sites |
| 18:39.13 | a1fa|64 | is mod_env compiled into apache2 by default? i cant find a module? |
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| 18:39.29 | chealer | nlibbler: and what is $LANG set to? |
| 18:39.34 | nlibbler | and my LC_* are showing as having those values |
| 18:39.37 | nlibbler | let me check |
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| 18:40.03 | nlibbler | ko_KR |
| 18:40.03 | pippijn | hi all |
| 18:40.14 | kass | is there anyone who using onboard RAID1 on Debian ? |
| 18:40.23 | nlibbler | hmm |
| 18:40.26 | pippijn | what is needed to start X? |
| 18:40.29 | pippijn | what package? |
| 18:40.31 | zidane | chealer: look this: nvidia-kernel-2.4.27-2-386 is already the newest version. |
| 18:40.32 | zidane | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 18:40.35 | pippijn | xserver-xorg was not enough |
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| 18:40.48 | chealer | nlibbler: hum, so what's the problem? $ locale; 's output looks good? |
| 18:40.48 | bobbens | pipeline: x-window-system-core |
| 18:40.52 | bobbens | pippijn: x-window-system-core |
| 18:41.07 | chealer | zidane: which kernel do you use? |
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| 18:41.13 | SuperSSS | I am interested how to create windows readable ISO files on a CD ? I tried with mkisofs -J -r , but windows cant read it |
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| 18:41.18 | a1fa|64 | is mod_env compiled into apache2 by default? i cant find a module? |
| 18:41.30 | pippijn | thanks bobbens :) |
| 18:41.35 | zidane | chealer: Linux debian 2.4.27-2-386 #1 Wed Nov 30 21:38:51 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 18:41.38 | nlibbler | that is what I am trying to figure out, the locales command returns all the values I want but when I log back in and resource my profile it throws file not found errors |
| 18:41.48 | nlibbler | so I am thinking I might not have the i10n file? |
| 18:41.48 | bobbens | pippijn: np |
| 18:42.24 | xfan | i have a problem :( |
| 18:42.31 | chealer | zidane: paste the error |
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| 18:42.41 | pippijn | what is your problem, xfan? |
| 18:42.48 | kass | is there any solution about onboard via raid ? |
| 18:42.54 | pippijn | ^^ |
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| 18:42.59 | xfan | my linux is very slowwww now.... i see on the syslog this: |
| 18:43.04 | zidane | chealer: (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to initialize the NVIDIA kernel module! |
| 18:43.04 | zidane | (EE) NVIDIA(0): *** Aborting *** |
| 18:43.04 | zidane | (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration. |
| 18:43.08 | xfan | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:43.24 | chealer | zidane: is the nvidia kernel module loaded? |
| 18:43.26 | SuperSSS | zidane: msg dpkg nvidia-oneliner |
| 18:43.30 | xfan | Jan 7 15:31:30 poptoaster kernel: ReiserFS: sda1: warning: - it is slow mode for debugging |
| 18:43.45 | xfan | thats for all partitions |
| 18:43.45 | pippijn | did you compile your own kernel xfan? |
| 18:43.47 | zidane | chealer: nvidia 3786668 0 |
| 18:43.50 | zidane | yes |
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| 18:43.58 | kass | raid and debian anyone ? |
| 18:44.14 | xfan | yes, but before today was really fast |
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| 18:44.32 | bobbens | kass: i use a raid 0 on debian with mdadm, but it isn't my root |
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| 18:44.48 | zidane | chealer: look this from dmesg: NVRM: RM/client version mismatch!! |
| 18:44.48 | zidane | NVRM: aborting to avoid catastrophe! |
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| 18:45.42 | kass | bobbens: I have via VT6410 onboard; I cant start the installation with my system. installation program cant see my harddrives |
| 18:46.07 | xfan | how to change CONFIG_REISERFS_CHECK to OFF ? |
| 18:46.13 | bobbens | kass: that's strange, what cd are you using? |
| 18:46.24 | kass | bobbens: I cant use raid on Fedora 4. Now I am downloading debian |
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| 18:46.59 | kass | bobbens: I cant understand. How can not see VIA Raid card an installation program... |
| 18:47.12 | pippijn | what is the package to reconfigure to allow console users or only root or anyone to start the x server? |
| 18:47.15 | bobbens | kass: depends what CD you are using, is it a netinst? |
| 18:47.29 | kass | bobbens: yes |
| 18:47.50 | pippijn | ah |
| 18:47.54 | pippijn | xserver-common |
| 18:47.56 | kass | bobbens: now I am downloading debian-businesscard.iso for try raid support... |
| 18:48.02 | hanasaki | what sets the dnsdomain name on a dhcp based client computer? |
| 18:48.06 | bobbens | kass: i'm not sure if this works on the newer CD's (i heard they have a gui and all), but try using the command "expert26" at the boot: prompt |
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| 18:49.00 | kass | bobbens: himm. now I will try debian. there is no support from VIA.. They have an old viamraid.img file |
| 18:49.12 | gnufan | hanasaki: option domain-name "14sageslea.org"; in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf |
| 18:49.34 | kass | bobbens: I am inserting via raid driver disk installation cant see card |
| 18:49.50 | gnufan | hanasaki: you might not have dhcpd v3 on the server... YMMV etc |
| 18:50.00 | nlibbler | hahahah aborting to avoid catastrophe |
| 18:50.05 | bojan | /server irc.triera.si |
| 18:50.11 | nlibbler | I love linux error messages |
| 18:50.23 | pippijn | what happened to apt keys? |
| 18:50.28 | tung | im trying to "apt-get install beagle", but i get "beagle: Depends: dbus-1-utils but it is not going to be installed" |
| 18:50.33 | pippijn | I get untrusted source all the time |
| 18:50.46 | gnufan | pippijn: did you read the topic? |
| 18:50.51 | tung | when i check, "apt-get install dbus-1-utils" it says its already installed and up to date |
| 18:50.52 | pippijn | yes |
| 18:50.57 | hanasaki | what is YMMV? |
| 18:51.03 | pippijn | but what actually happened? |
| 18:51.08 | tung | anyone know what happening? |
| 18:51.22 | simonrvn | !ymmv |
| 18:51.22 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ymmv is your mileage may vary. [From 200 litres per km to 200 km per litre.], or http://www.catb.org/~esr/jargon/html/Y/YMMV.html |
| 18:51.43 | kass | is debian support via raid? |
| 18:52.25 | ThetaWave | I'm confused by the apt-cache search results for openldap. Nothing explicitly says it will install openldap. Which package has it in Debian? |
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| 18:52.52 | bobbens | kass: sorry i can't help you much, never had a VIA chipset, and have heard they bring alot of problems |
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| 18:53.25 | chealer | zidane: paste the output of $ dpkg -l nvidia*|grep ii; somewhere |
| 18:53.27 | gentgeen__ | anyone using use-mod wiki (Debian Package) with the BODYONLY=1 option? Need some help? |
| 18:53.38 | gentgeen__ | s/?/! |
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| 18:54.28 | hanasaki | hmm gnufan is there something in the dhcp client config that needs to be set so it will use the dnsdomain name from the dhcp? it is working on one client and not on another |
| 18:54.30 | kass | bobbens: himm thanks :) I will buy a pci raid card, the easiest way |
| 18:54.30 | jair_11 | guys anyone has configure a fax server with Debian? |
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| 18:54.49 | gnufan | ThetaWave: slapd ? |
| 18:54.51 | zidane | chealer: |
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| 18:55.04 | zidane | http://pastebin.com/495241 -> here pasted |
| 18:55.08 | jair_11 | I am reading about hylafax, and start configuring it with it. |
| 18:55.16 | ThetaWave | gnufan: is that a guess? |
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| 18:56.45 | ThetaWave | how does a package get from sourceforge to a debian apt package? |
| 18:56.47 | gnufan | hanasaki: you can override the option on the client. I think there is more than one dhcp client in Sarge... dhclient and another... don't have a debian dhcp client to hand to check. But I think you'll find it is in the options. Also possibly pppd option to override if this is ISP stuff. |
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| 18:57.11 | chealer | zidane: did you do something unclean? it worked before? |
| 18:57.16 | gnufan | ThetaWave: I think it is right - haven't installed it for a LONG time... but the description is right ;) |
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| 18:57.21 | ohad | hi, i am trying to install libmimelib1c2a. it is trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libmimelib.so.1.0.1 without success - how would you suggest to resolve this problem? |
| 18:57.36 | Eno_ | Why doesn't my ctrl+alt+f1 or f2, etc.. work? In sarge? fluxbox? |
| 18:57.41 | hanasaki | gnufan: i am running dhclient from etch |
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| 18:57.52 | chealer | ThetaWave: it gets packaged by some maintainer |
| 18:57.52 | zidane | chealer: I upgraded from stable to testing, but it was working in stable |
| 18:58.13 | chealer | zidane: did you reboot since then? |
| 18:58.18 | zidane | chealer: yes |
| 18:58.21 | gnufan | hanasaki: diff dhclient.conf on the boxes then |
| 18:58.27 | chealer | zidane: are you using the same kernel? |
| 18:58.29 | ThetaWave | gnufan: I've had a lot of trouble with guesses because debian keeps old and new versions of the same package |
| 18:58.50 | hanasaki | the other server is also a dhcp server.. so it doesnt have that conf :( |
| 18:58.52 | zidane | chealer: I think it reinstalled the kernel, although it's the same version |
| 18:58.56 | ThetaWave | gnufan: For example, the DHCP server |
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| 18:59.57 | hanasaki | hmm gonan replace dhcp-client w dhcp3-client |
| 19:00.43 | hanasaki | gnufan: lol i had v2.. but it suppots that domain option too right? |
| 19:01.05 | tung | whats the difference between "apt-get upgrade" and "apt-get dist-upgrade"? |
| 19:01.07 | gnufan | hanasaki: if one is a dhcp server it is giving out a DNS name from /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf but using what is in /etc/resolv.conf (or where ever). So it wouldn't be surprising if the results were different between the two boxes |
| 19:01.26 | ohad | i get the msg try 'apt-get -f install' how do i resolve that? libmimelib1c2a |
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| 19:01.32 | gnufan | hanasaki: v2 almost certainly does, read the manual page, always good for a laugh |
| 19:01.34 | zidane | chealer: I'll try uninstalling all *nvidia* stuff and reinstall it again to test if it works |
| 19:02.00 | gnufan | ThetaWave: sure someone can tell you how to search for packages that "provide ldap-server" to get a complete list ;) |
| 19:02.01 | chealer | zidane: hum. I doubt that will help, but I can't think of a reason |
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| 19:02.49 | zidane | chealer: as it's some version mismatch error, I think it'll help something..hm |
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| 19:03.27 | chealer | zidane: just a weak try, but what does # modinfo nvidia; output? |
| 19:03.31 | gnufan | tung: is "man apt-get" ambiguous? |
| 19:03.42 | kspath | neo are you awake? The GNU has you. |
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| 19:03.55 | ThetaWave | gnufan: is there a command for that? |
| 19:03.55 | zidane | chealer: started uninstall ..:( |
| 19:03.57 | pippijn | I have a problem with xorgcfg |
| 19:04.08 | pippijn | in the card list there are no cards at all |
| 19:04.13 | pippijn | only *unlisted card* |
| 19:04.21 | pippijn | and in the unlisted cards area only ati and vmware |
| 19:04.38 | pippijn | what could have gone wrong? |
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| 19:05.52 | Eno_ | How do I get dpkg-reconfigure to generate a new XF86Config-4 for me no matter what? |
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| 19:06.38 | zidane | chealer: how to set CC environment variable to the gcc version I used when compiling the kernel while upgrading ? |
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| 19:07.07 | chealer | !tell Eno_ about xmd5 |
| 19:07.13 | hanasaki | hmm for some reason the client isnt settting the domain name |
| 19:07.17 | hanasaki | gnufan: thoghts? |
| 19:07.28 | chealer | zidane: wait...are you using a custom kernel? |
| 19:07.50 | Eno_ | But I need to edit the X config because I need to set up two screens. : |
| 19:08.02 | Eno_ | I don't think debian can do it for me. |
| 19:08.06 | gnufan | ThetaWave: don't know - apt-cache search ldap-server only gets slapd anyway on unstable |
| 19:08.14 | chealer | Eno_: that's possible |
| 19:08.19 | Eno_ | Ohh..? |
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| 19:08.42 | chealer | Eno_: I meant, it's possible that debconf ("Debian") can't do it |
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| 19:08.50 | hanasaki | i do have this |
| 19:08.51 | Eno_ | Oh.. okay. |
| 19:08.52 | hanasaki | # option definitions common to all supported networks... |
| 19:08.53 | hanasaki | option domain-name "home.hanaden.com"; |
| 19:08.54 | zidane | chealer: no, I mean the one which the installation compiled |
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| 19:09.38 | chealer | zidane: hum, normally the kernels (stock kernels) are not compiled on your box, just installed |
| 19:09.56 | zidane | chealer: ah |
| 19:10.16 | ttick | I have an Epson 4490 flatbed with negative scanner attachment. What's a good linux scanning software -- hopefully something that can control the ICE options are such on the scanner? |
| 19:10.30 | zidane | chealer: and which is the way to change CC environment variable ? |
| 19:10.51 | chealer | zidane: why do you want to do that? |
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| 19:11.21 | drayen | Hi could someone help me with my extenral hard disk, its a ext2/3 disk but it seems to have corrupt superblocks even when useing the alt... im not sure if i am just trying to run e2fsck on the wrong thing or what, but i'm going crazy as its got years worth of work on it.... please... |
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| 19:11.34 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
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| 19:11.59 | marc_in_lux | I regularly see this: http://pastebin.ca/36114 |
| 19:12.02 | randomity | drayen: can you mount it read-only |
| 19:12.08 | zidane | chealer: because I'm trying to install the nvidia driver and it says I have changed my gcc version,so it can't compile if I don't change the CC environment variable |
| 19:12.15 | marc_in_lux | when doing pvmove's on a debian 3.1 computer. |
| 19:12.24 | kyncani | drayen: and _make backup_ |
| 19:12.29 | marc_in_lux | how can I fix that? |
| 19:12.37 | chealer | zidane: you're trying to use m-a? |
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| 19:12.55 | zidane | chealer: no |
| 19:13.04 | drayen | randomity, kyncani - will try that now... |
| 19:13.24 | zidane | chealer: I'm trying to install the .run file from nvidia.com |
| 19:13.28 | chealer | zidane: then what's saying that? you're talking about the installation of the kernel module? |
| 19:13.33 | chealer | zidane: arg |
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| 19:13.54 | chealer | zidane: is it the first time you try using nvidia.com's installer? |
| 19:14.25 | deepspaceant | guys im getting this error when compiling bind9 what do i need ? ar program not found. Please fix your PATH to include the directory in |
| 19:14.25 | deepspaceant | which ar resides, or set AR in the environment with the full path to ar. |
| 19:14.47 | thetallcoolone | is there a way to verify where all the files pertaining a particular app are on the hdd? |
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| 19:14.48 | zidane | chealer: no I installed it when I was still with stable and it worked fine |
| 19:15.16 | chealer | zidane: that must be why you're getting problems. nvidia.com's installer is not supported here |
| 19:15.22 | chealer | !tell zidane about nvidia-installer |
| 19:15.28 | drayen | randomity, kyncani : [ 3728.011629] EXT2-fs error (device sda1): ext2_check_descriptors: Block bitmap for group 128 not in group (block 2893833338)! |
| 19:15.28 | drayen | [ 3728.011637] EXT2-fs: group descriptors corrupted! |
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| 19:16.47 | raf256 | what to add to windoze xp boot.ini so it will boot debian? |
| 19:17.13 | raf256 | debian's boot is on hda3 AFAIR.. will the windows start entire GRUB? or do I have to specyfie a kernel image? |
| 19:17.19 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 19:17.19 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 19:18.16 | drayen | randomity, kyncani : dumpe2fs still gives lots of info tho. |
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| 19:18.54 | indian | hello |
| 19:19.00 | deepspaceant | guys im getting this error when compiling bind9 what do i need ar program not found. |
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| 19:19.22 | htedrom | hey all...i installed windows and it murdered my MBR |
| 19:19.34 | htedrom | i have the net install debian disc, but i can't figure out how to use it just as a boot disc |
| 19:19.35 | Gathond | htedrom: it generally does that yes |
| 19:19.38 | randomity | drayen, use dd_rescue (http://www.garloff.de/kurt/linux/ddrescue/) to image the hard disk. dd_rescue will skip over bad blocks and make a sane image. Store the image somewhere else, set it up as a loopback device and play around with it. |
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| 19:19.42 | indian | i have a simply question: can i install X.org withoout existing XFree86 ? |
| 19:20.07 | randomity | htedrom, download GRUB and make a boot floppy |
| 19:20.16 | Gathond | htedrom: put the debian disc in the computer, boot, write: rescue root=/your/debian/root/partition, then install the bootloader again |
| 19:20.19 | rambo3 | you can use grub from install cd |
| 19:20.25 | htedrom | randey: tried that, but i can't do it from windows |
| 19:20.27 | drayen | randomity, is that my only option? its a 160gb disk and i dont have any spare :S |
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| 19:20.44 | htedrom | rambo3: how? |
| 19:20.47 | netman1 | Hi All. Random executable, want to call it just once for performance reasons in a shellscript. How do I read the output if all goes well and catch the rc if it goes wrong in 1 call? |
| 19:20.51 | igaaa | hi, could someone tell me how to make my optical output work with alsa ? |
| 19:20.52 | randomity | drayen, no, but it's the safest since you can't screw up a backup image |
| 19:21.08 | htedrom | i'd love to just make a boot floppy with grub from windows |
| 19:21.11 | htedrom | but i'm not sure i can |
| 19:21.19 | randomity | drayen, did you do anything strange to the disk to make this happen (resize a partition, etc) |
| 19:21.22 | htedrom | the boot floppy instructions are for linux |
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| 19:22.14 | rambo3 | just start as a normal install and in configuretion go back to main install menu brows donw to install grub press enter go back exit |
| 19:22.29 | drayen | randomity, nope, but i think i abuse it quite a bit, its an external USB disk, so it can get dc'ed ungracefully quite a lot... |
| 19:22.31 | htedrom | rambo3: doesn't work, it tries going through the other steps first |
| 19:22.31 | rambo3 | 20 goto 10 |
| 19:22.45 | gnufan | htedrom: I use my Ubuntu liveCD for this sort of thing, I knew Ubuntu would have a use ;) |
| 19:22.47 | htedrom | even if i choose install Grub from the menu |
| 19:23.00 | htedrom | gnufan: yea i thought about getting ubuntu |
| 19:23.00 | rambo3 | yes it does. and other steps wont install anyway its just in ram |
| 19:23.02 | htedrom | to boot |
| 19:23.10 | ttick | okay, can anyone recommend good flat-bed scanning software? |
| 19:23.11 | randomity | drayen: do you mount it sync or async? |
| 19:23.17 | jbmigel | Is it possible to edit source of kernel module freq_table or powernow-k8 and adjust the default speed settings, I seem to have no control over this? |
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| 19:23.39 | netman1 | ttick: Eyeball, mk1. ;-) |
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| 19:23.45 | htedrom | rambo3: that seems kind of sketchy. besides it asks me to choose a linux partition for root....if it overwrites it i'm screwed |
| 19:23.59 | drayen | not 100% sure, i use unbuntu, so it automounts it when i connect it. |
| 19:24.03 | ttick | netman1: eyeball? mk1? OKay, I'll look into those, thanks. |
| 19:24.06 | htedrom | you SURE it won't try installing anything? |
| 19:24.19 | netman1 | ttick: Was a joke ;-) |
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| 19:24.28 | rambo3 | i have grub from install cd so many times that i know it work without of affection existing debian . i just dont know the procedure |
| 19:24.46 | Zap-W | dpkg : bananas? |
| 19:24.46 | dpkg | rumour has it, bananas is B---------A-----------N-----------A---------N----------A-------S-!!!! |
| 19:24.50 | ttick | netman1: oh. :/ |
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| 19:25.47 | ttick | I would assume something in a sane frontend? |
| 19:25.47 | htedrom | rambo3: but you didn't have to drop into the shell? |
| 19:25.54 | ttick | or does gimp link in with sane? |
| 19:25.56 | rambo3 | no |
| 19:26.00 | faisal_d | hey guys, can somebody send me a copy of a sources.list file that has testing, non-us, and non-free packages defined? i can't seem to get it to work right |
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| 19:26.13 | htedrom | and it didn't need you to format a partition or anything |
| 19:26.20 | htedrom | or actually install anything? |
| 19:26.43 | atrus | ttick: gimp links into sane well. file->aquire |
| 19:26.43 | gnufan | htedrom: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/325 |
| 19:26.44 | drayen | randomity, not 100% sure, i use unbuntu, so it automounts it when i connect it. |
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| 19:27.13 | indian | can somebody help me in X.org? |
| 19:27.16 | chealer | !tell faisal_d about non-us |
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| 19:27.55 | rambo3 | no just browsed till about partition hardrive and press cancel there and you get main install manu where all the procedures are listed |
| 19:27.57 | htedrom | rambo3: that's perfect...thanks :D |
| 19:28.05 | indian | can i install X.org withoout existing XFree86 ? |
| 19:28.16 | faisal_d | chealer, you mean there is no non-us in debian etch? |
| 19:28.24 | DAaaMan64 | there isn't by chance anyway in hell to limit apt's download speed? |
| 19:28.33 | chealer | faisal_d: right |
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| 19:28.42 | faisal_d | chealer: thanx... i didn't know that |
| 19:28.51 | rambo3 | why do you need xfree86 |
| 19:29.34 | gnufan | indian: don't see why not.... |
| 19:29.42 | indian | i have build X.org |
| 19:29.42 | atrus | indian: it should work in theory. that said, i'm sure the bulk of the testing done was xf86->xorg transitions. |
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| 19:30.07 | gnufan | indian: why - it is packaged in unstable |
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| 19:30.34 | indian | i have read wiki.freedesktop.org/wikiw/Building, and there was written this thing |
| 19:30.36 | mrwick | can anyone help me out? |
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| 19:31.05 | indian | so i don't know, what to do |
| 19:31.17 | chealer | mrwick: just ask a question |
| 19:31.33 | faisal_d | chealer: so deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib non-free would get me everything? |
| 19:31.48 | chealer | faisal_d: it should |
| 19:31.54 | faisal_d | thanx |
| 19:31.54 | mrwick | chealer : sorry.. I'm going to try a little more googling to get the question right |
| 19:32.28 | kyncani | !tell indian about get xorg |
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| 19:33.21 | hanasaki | what woudl resutl in a dhcp clent dnsdomain name not being set? the option domain-name is set in the server |
| 19:33.25 | indian | kyncani: thx |
| 19:33.37 | kyncani | np |
| 19:33.57 | mrwick | aahh.. so when apt-get update says NO_PUBKEY,, the number after that is the argument to --recv-keys |
| 19:34.06 | jbmigel | anyone know how the files in /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/* are used in powernow configuration? Id like to modify my step speeds can i do that in scaling_available_frequency file?? |
| 19:35.03 | mrwick | thanks! |
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| 19:36.17 | kyncani | jbmigel: i believe powernowd has a special option for that |
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| 19:36.48 | DAaaMan64 | no one knows if there is a download limiter for apt? |
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| 19:37.15 | htedrom | hey rambo3, that didn't work...when i boot the cd there's nothing really in /dev/ |
| 19:37.17 | DAaaMan64 | It is kind of a dumb thing to need but yeah. |
| 19:37.20 | htedrom | so i can't mount my root fs |
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| 19:37.47 | chealer | jbmigel: did you check cpu-freq doc? |
| 19:37.56 | htedrom | there aren't any devices in dev, just some nonsense |
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| 19:38.44 | kspath | I am starting to think half the CS degrees out there are worth spit |
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| 19:39.28 | htedrom | anybody on my problem? |
| 19:39.48 | htedrom | i installed windows and it erased grub from the MBR, i'm now trying to get grub back in there |
| 19:40.03 | htedrom | i have the net intall disc, but i can't seem to use it as a boot disc |
| 19:40.13 | lxIT | is there a debian AMD 64 channel? |
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| 19:40.43 | csalad | hello all |
| 19:40.50 | csalad | van valaki magyar? |
| 19:41.15 | chealer | !tell lxIT about amd64 |
| 19:41.24 | indian | csalad: hali |
| 19:41.38 | csalad | tudsz magyarul? |
| 19:41.42 | lxIT | chealer: thanks |
| 19:41.44 | indian | mongyuk |
| 19:41.45 | csalad | :) |
| 19:41.46 | indian | :) |
| 19:41.47 | csalad | super |
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| 19:41.55 | csalad | feltenném a debian-t |
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| 19:42.07 | atax | hello |
| 19:42.08 | csalad | de elõtte kérdés: |
| 19:42.13 | csalad | sem lenne |
| 19:42.29 | csalad | felrakhatom igy is hogy megy az uhu? |
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| 19:42.46 | csalad | aztán majd ha teccik akkor azt tartom meg... |
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| 19:43.17 | indian | fel lehet rakni, bar ajanlott kulon particiora |
| 19:43.41 | sylvisj | About how much longer til AMD64 becomes an official arch release? |
| 19:43.43 | csalad | jaja |
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| 19:43.56 | csalad | de mosmár hogy szedjem szét??? |
| 19:44.13 | csalad | most ideiglenesen van egy "rossz" vinyón az uhu |
| 19:44.21 | chealer | sylvisj: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 19:44.21 | csalad | ezért nem szedtem szét az installnál |
| 19:44.31 | csalad | ? |
| 19:44.35 | shay | do you mind speaking in english? |
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| 19:44.40 | csalad | yes |
| 19:44.42 | csalad | i? |
| 19:44.47 | Kovecses | !kde3.5 |
| 19:44.47 | dpkg | KDE 3.4 not new enough for you? 3.5 was released a matter of days ago, and it's not in debian. Ask #debian-kde, they might have ideas. |
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| 19:45.07 | chealer | dpkg: forget kde3.5 |
| 19:45.07 | dpkg | chealer: i forgot kde3.5 |
| 19:45.12 | csalad | na mind1. |
| 19:45.16 | csalad | majd most kiderül... |
| 19:45.19 | Kovecses | there are packages |
| 19:45.20 | csalad | netinstall lesz... |
| 19:45.25 | csalad | by all |
| 19:45.28 | Kovecses | i forget the repos |
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| 19:45.51 | streuner | csalad: this is an english speaking channel, if you want just /join #debian-hu or whatever. |
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| 19:45.57 | streuner | too late |
| 19:46.06 | indian | :) |
| 19:46.22 | Kovecses | anyone know the repos for kde 3.5? |
| 19:46.36 | chealer | Kovecses: ask #debian-kde |
| 19:46.38 | indian | streuner: he has become the answer |
| 19:46.58 | Kovecses | chealer: ok... i predict no answer in there though |
| 19:47.23 | pinkwerks | how do i regenerate my keyring for apt? on etch, i get a gpg error in aptitude |
| 19:47.41 | chealer | Kovecses: since I wrote the answer myself, I'd tend to "predict" the opposite |
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| 19:52.20 | Jether2 | Have anyone already seen the message "starting NFS commom utilities: statdeth0: --ERROR-- in debian boot time? |
| 19:53.08 | indian | it's enough to change sarge to etch, that in 'etc/apt/sources.list' change the 'stable' to 'testing' ? |
| 19:53.27 | streuner | dpkg, stable->testing |
| 19:53.27 | dpkg | Sarge too old for you already? Edit your sources.list ('editor /etc/apt/sources.list'), change all non-local mentions of 'sarge' or 'stable' to 'testing', and replace the security.debian.org line by a testing security line (ask me about testing security). Save the file, then 'apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then subscribe to d-d-a (/msg dpkg d-d-a) or I will come and pour hot grits down your pants. ask me about downgrade |
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| 19:53.56 | Jether2 | I can´t boot debian |
| 19:54.04 | sylvisj | Hmm. Hot grits down pants. Would seem to burn. |
| 19:54.06 | chealer | hey, good half-year, Sarge! |
| 19:54.26 | edon | one package is trying to overwrite some file that belongs to another package, how would i force it to do so? |
| 19:54.36 | indian | cute :) |
| 19:54.36 | streuner | yes, and it seems very successful |
| 19:54.47 | indian | streuner: thanks |
| 19:55.13 | streuner | indian: you're welcome. |
| 19:55.16 | indian | testing ?) |
| 19:55.18 | indian | :) |
| 19:55.34 | streuner | testing=etch |
| 19:55.49 | indian | clear |
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| 19:57.06 | Jether2 | Could anyone help-me? |
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| 19:57.08 | lxIT | grr... debian-installer doesn't find my Plextor PX-712SA... Ubuntu does, but I don't like Ubuntu... |
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| 19:57.51 | sylvisj | Dunno Jether2, can they? |
| 19:57.51 | streuner | CDRW? |
| 19:57.52 | delire | edon dpkg --force-overwrite -i package.deb |
| 19:57.52 | Jether2 | I have a hard disk with dual boot. I have debian partitions e windows partitions |
| 19:58.23 | sylvisj | !help |
| 19:58.28 | streuner | lxIT: what device is that? |
| 19:58.29 | blondie | help! |
| 19:58.29 | lxIT | streuner: DVD-RW, but a SATA-interface... it does find my SATA-HD's |
| 19:58.41 | sylvisj | Hmm, not what I was looking for |
| 19:58.43 | sylvisj | !helpme |
| 19:58.44 | dpkg | Please help me. I need help. I don't know who I am no more. |
| 19:58.49 | streuner | lxIT: /msg dpkg di |
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| 19:58.52 | sylvisj | !beerme |
| 19:58.59 | sylvisj | !beer sylvisj |
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| 19:59.22 | lxIT | streuner: Oke, I'll check... |
| 19:59.40 | htedrom | hey all i'm trying to get my debian netinstall to work as a boot disc, but the default kernel doesn't seem to be booting with ide support |
| 19:59.42 | thetallcoolone | is there an FTP server installed by default in the Debian distro? |
| 19:59.43 | Jether2 | My windows don´t have any problem. Because that i think my hardware is ok |
| 19:59.48 | lxIT | I've spend some hours in (K)Ubuntu, but it's not my cup of tea... |
| 19:59.55 | htedrom | i went through the boot menu help, and didn't see anything |
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| 20:00.21 | Marsian | Where can I find out how to validate packages for apt? |
| 20:01.03 | faisal_d | indian... jsut ask... |
| 20:01.04 | Jether2 | But my debian doesn't run |
| 20:01.14 | faisal_d | indian scrap that |
| 20:01.23 | chealer | thetallcoolone: no |
| 20:01.27 | htedrom | anyone on my prob? |
| 20:01.35 | htedrom | i'm trying to get my debian netinstall to work as a boot disc, but the default kernel doesn't seem to be booting with ide support |
| 20:01.44 | Jether2 | At time boot I see the message "statdeth0: --ERROR-- |
| 20:01.49 | htedrom | ie there's no /dev/ide |
| 20:02.35 | chealer | Marsian: are you sure reading /topic wouldn't answer your question? |
| 20:02.42 | htedrom | anyone? |
| 20:02.45 | indian | the main question: after dist-upgrade (sarge->etch) can i install X.org |
| 20:02.50 | indian | ? |
| 20:03.00 | simonrvn | anyone isn't here |
| 20:03.04 | Marsian | chealer : So it would. Scrolled so fast I didn't see it |
| 20:03.07 | Marsian | Thanks |
| 20:03.09 | sylvisj | !whois anyone |
| 20:03.13 | sylvisj | !who anyone |
| 20:03.13 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 20:03.19 | simonrvn | indian: yes, if you have xfree installed it'll upgrade it anyway |
| 20:03.30 | indian | :( |
| 20:03.32 | htedrom | simonrvn: and if he was, he probably wouldn't help me either |
| 20:04.15 | simonrvn | there *is* some dude that comes in sometimes with 'Anyone' as a nick |
| 20:04.26 | streuner | lxIT: Did you find out why it doesn't work? |
| 20:04.29 | simonrvn | !seen Anyone |
| 20:04.29 | dpkg | anyone <n=username@3E6B9A9A.rev.stofanet.dk> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 3d 3h 20s ago, saying: 'stew, ahh that one .. it was meant as a joke to follow up on recent comments.'. |
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| 20:04.36 | simonrvn | ^^ |
| 20:04.47 | streuner | lxIT: The URL i gave you is old and it seems nobody maintains it and update it... |
| 20:04.57 | htedrom | well that's enlightening; thanks |
| 20:05.09 | lxIT | streuner: I've found some info about the drive and it seems to be the kernel |
| 20:05.10 | simonrvn | indian: why, don't you want xorg? |
| 20:05.14 | htedrom | how about Anyone Else on my problem? |
| 20:05.16 | indian | and it's possible, that after i build X.org install the xfree, and then re-update? |
| 20:05.28 | streuner | lxIT: What kernel does ubuntu uses? |
| 20:05.41 | simonrvn | why are you trying to build xorg? just install it |
| 20:05.41 | indian | simonrvn: i would like it, but it's not too simply to me |
| 20:05.43 | Marsian | chealer : I get the error gpg: can't open `084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F' |
| 20:05.43 | nsdutch | Indian, you'll have nasty problems with it - |
| 20:06.00 | chealer | Marsian: when doing what? |
| 20:06.01 | htedrom | i'm trying to get my debian netinstall to work as a boot disc, but the default kernel doesn't seem to be booting with ide support |
| 20:06.11 | indian | then i must uninstall xorg? |
| 20:06.11 | Marsian | chealer what dpkg said |
| 20:06.24 | simonrvn | indian: like i said, when you dist upgrade to etch, it'll install xorg |
| 20:06.25 | Jether2 | Anyone Knows some tool to scan hadware problems in hard disk? |
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| 20:06.43 | Jether2 | to use in a disk boot |
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| 20:07.08 | lxIT | streuner: Ubuntu 5.10 uses 2.6.12-8 |
| 20:07.36 | lxIT | streuner: I've downloaded the etch-beta1 and that one has 2.6.8 also |
| 20:07.55 | lxIT | I'm trying to find the artcle about the drive again |
| 20:07.56 | Frem | The package site is down. Where can I find the sarge wireless-tools package? |
| 20:08.14 | indian | simonrvn: i have yet no xfree installed, so there is no anything to update |
| 20:08.21 | streuner | Frem: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:08.32 | ke6isf | Frem: 'apt-get install wireless-tools'. |
| 20:08.43 | EleckttrusS | apt-get install flightgear |
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| 20:09.07 | Frem | ke6isf: I already have it installed on this machine. I'm transporting pkgs by floppy to a non-networked computer. >_< |
| 20:09.08 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:09.24 | ke6isf | Frem: sneakernet?! Oy gevalt... |
| 20:09.31 | chealer | Marsian: please paste the full command and output |
| 20:09.34 | blondie | o.O |
| 20:09.43 | EleckttrusS | Frem, http://eleckttruss.blogspot.com/2006/01/wireless-tools.html |
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| 20:10.55 | Jether2 | I'm thinking reinstall my debian sarge. Do you agree whith that or I wold try solve the problem? |
| 20:10.58 | Frem | ke6isf: All I need to copy are these last few network packages. I tried using "apt-get -d install wireless-tools", but I got a message saying i already had the package installed and thus don't need to downloading. |
| 20:11.42 | Frem | EleckttrusS: 1. I don't know spanish. 2. I know how to use iwconfig. ;-) |
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| 20:13.03 | streuner | lxIT: well, there is option 1) /msg dpkg custom netinstal or 2) debootstrap |
| 20:13.07 | kspath | if you can C you can spanish |
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| 20:14.26 | Frem | So, is there a way to use apt-get to *just* download a package if said package is already installed? |
| 20:14.32 | kyncani | !tell Jether2 about smart |
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| 20:15.07 | htedrom | i'm trying to get my debian netinstall to work as a boot disc, but the default kernel doesn't seem to be booting with ide support |
| 20:15.16 | htedrom | any ideas? |
| 20:15.20 | kyncani | Frem: man apt-get |
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| 20:15.55 | kyncani | Frem: oops, you already know about -d, my bad :) |
| 20:16.34 | thetallcoolone | chealer: thanks |
| 20:16.47 | EleckttrusS | Frem, only look mi web and see the example |
| 20:17.32 | streuner | lxIT: the easiest solution would be you insert an 'normal' CDROM into the box ;-) |
| 20:17.43 | lxIT | streuner: I'm searching the www for info, but it seems that nobody gets it working under Debian... Gentoo & Ubuntu seems to be OK... I'll write down your 2 suggestions and check it out later (after reading a lot of html's ;p) |
| 20:18.10 | Frem | EleckttrusS: The website you sent me, while it talks about wireless-tools, does not tell me anything I don't already know. I'm asking about the .deb, not the use of the contents of the package. |
| 20:18.13 | streuner | lxIT: Do you have another old CDROM handy? |
| 20:18.18 | xfan | is there a command to get the CPU temp ??? |
| 20:18.25 | streuner | !info mbmon |
| 20:18.39 | Jether2 | kyncani: thanks.. I'll get smart |
| 20:18.40 | xfan | !info mbmon |
| 20:18.42 | lxIT | streuner: yes, I have... maybe I'll just buy a cheap NEC or so... |
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| 20:19.48 | lxIT | streuner: It's not a disaster, but I just bought my first Shuttle and I've spend ?'s for quality-parts... Kinda stupid to put a cheap DVD-R in it :) |
| 20:19.49 | streuner | apt, info mbmon |
| 20:19.57 | nsdutch | Somebody's on my fucking nick! Arrrg! |
| 20:19.59 | lxIT | anyways, thanks for the assistance |
| 20:20.03 | lxIT | I'm off... |
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| 20:20.11 | streuner | np |
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| 20:20.14 | EleckttrusS | Frem, ok! |
| 20:20.27 | dpkg | mbmon: (Hardware monitoring without kernel dependencies (text client)), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.05-4 (sid), Packaged size: 66 kB, Installed size: 140 kB |
| 20:20.53 | Frem | wow... now that's some serious lag. |
| 20:21.22 | streuner | <dpkg> Updating debian files... please wait. |
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| 20:22.32 | drayen | randomity, still there? i've been reading around and im a little confused as dumpe2fs gives me LOTS of info, it looks like its all there??? any further pearls of wizdom? |
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| 20:22.49 | Frem | Anyone know when packages.debian.org will be back up? |
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| 20:23.22 | bork | aye |
| 20:23.36 | bork | i need help |
| 20:23.46 | bork | installed debian linux on my pc |
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| 20:24.22 | bork | is anyone up to talking to a clueless newbie ? |
| 20:24.28 | repp | bork: and? what's broken? state your problem. |
| 20:24.32 | bork | ok |
| 20:24.37 | bork | it installed fine |
| 20:24.37 | streuner | !newbie |
| 20:24.38 | dpkg | well, newbie is someone who is new to linux or debian, and should read the docs (/usr/share/doc/) |
| 20:24.52 | htedrom | i'm trying to get my debian netinstall to work as a boot disc, but the default kernel doesn't seem to be booting with ide support |
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| 20:24.53 | streuner | bork: what's the problem? |
| 20:24.54 | htedrom | any ideas? |
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| 20:26.17 | repp | bork: you got my attention, but not for long. |
| 20:26.32 | simonrvn | htedrom: try #debian-boot |
| 20:26.34 | bork | but the video X server thing, GDM. says i have no monitor, but in the startup, it names it, probably form the auto detection thing during install. also, i downloaded firefox with the ftp client, but when i try to run it (./) it says permissioin denied, im not even sure if ./ is actually the run command. |
| 20:26.51 | repp | bork: join me in #flood |
| 20:26.54 | bork | im not too sure how one changes drives |
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| 20:27.15 | Frem | documentation'ED! |
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| 20:30.25 | linckraker | how do i make a initrd image? |
| 20:30.33 | linckraker | or can i use one from a different kernel? |
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| 20:30.56 | dvs | linckraker: Do you use the kernel-package to compile the kernel? |
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| 20:31.08 | linckraker | yes |
| 20:31.20 | dvs | linckraker: Then use the --initrd option |
| 20:31.27 | linckraker | k |
| 20:31.32 | linckraker | thanks dvs |
| 20:31.40 | dvs | you're welcome |
| 20:32.55 | linckraker | dvs, do i need an initrd image to boot? |
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| 20:33.08 | dvs | linckraker: No, I don't use one |
| 20:33.49 | cbr | where does debian store information about all the packages? |
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| 20:36.33 | drayen | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.12 | metrix | I have a pc that I have just thrown a new motherboard into. It has the 2.4 kernel, and I need to get the 2.6 kernel onto the system. where would I manually download the sarge 2.6 kernel, and how would I let debian know that it should install it? |
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| 20:39.38 | dvs | metrix: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-i386 |
| 20:39.52 | dvs | !info kernel-image-2.6-i386 sarge |
| 20:40.17 | dvs | !info kernel-image-2.6-386 sarge |
| 20:40.20 | dpkg | kernel-image-2.6-386: (Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on 386.), section base, is optional. Version: 101 (sarge), Packaged size: 2 kB, Installed size: 32 kB |
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| 20:41.02 | Stormy | Is there a log for what apt does? |
| 20:41.07 | metrix | cool, where do I download it from? my pc does not have network support right now :/ |
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| 20:41.27 | metrix | My new motherboard is an Nforce board |
| 20:41.37 | simonrvn | Stormy: aptitude and dpkg have logs. dpkg only in some versions not in sarge |
| 20:41.43 | raf256 | how well do debian support IA64? |
| 20:41.49 | Stormy | how do i turn it on in sarge |
| 20:41.50 | linckraker | how do i find out what ide chipset my computer has? |
| 20:41.54 | Stormy | because i'm using sarge |
| 20:41.55 | dvs | raf256: Itanium? |
| 20:41.56 | Stormy | and now i need it |
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| 20:42.04 | raf256 | dvs: hmm I think it is celeron 2600 |
| 20:42.12 | raf256 | 747 socket I suppose |
| 20:42.25 | raf256 | is it true intel 64 bit run freaking slow in 32 bit mode? |
| 20:42.34 | Stormy | they run slow peroid |
| 20:42.50 | raf256 | like x2 times slower then 64 version of same software? |
| 20:42.56 | Stormy | they just suck |
| 20:43.00 | Stormy | they have a heat issue |
| 20:43.15 | raf256 | I know, it was not my choice, its for a friends that already bought 747 celeron 64 bit |
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| 20:43.29 | raf256 | I wonder should he install normal 32 bit x86 debian? |
| 20:43.33 | raf256 | or IA64 one |
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| 20:44.03 | Gathond | raf256 i think the slow in 32 bit is mostly the itanium |
| 20:44.11 | Stormy | 747 celeron wtf? |
| 20:44.20 | Stormy | he can't run ia64 |
| 20:44.21 | dvs | Stormy: It's a BIG chip |
| 20:44.23 | Stormy | that's itianium |
| 20:44.24 | dvs | ;-) |
| 20:44.24 | raf256 | Stormy: 747 socket.. or did I missspelled |
| 20:44.30 | Gathond | raf256 which is 64 bit and emulates x86 32 bit, hence is slow as crap |
| 20:44.33 | Stormy | 747 isn't a socket |
| 20:44.34 | raf256 | damn Im quite confused |
| 20:44.36 | Stormy | that might be the new numbering |
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| 20:44.55 | Stormy | you have pins? |
| 20:44.56 | Stormy | or pads? |
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| 20:45.02 | raf256 | Stormy: it is NOT mine PC, I do not know |
| 20:45.04 | Gathond | raf256 ia64 is itanium, not x86_64 if that was the 64 bit you where talking about |
| 20:45.16 | Stormy | what chip exactly is it? |
| 20:45.16 | raf256 | ok, he got something called "celeron 2600" which is 64 bit |
| 20:45.23 | Stormy | it's not 64 bit |
| 20:45.28 | raf256 | why not? |
| 20:45.29 | Stormy | no cele's are 64 bit |
| 20:45.32 | Stormy | not even in development |
| 20:45.34 | raf256 | really? |
| 20:45.37 | Stormy | i used to work for intel |
| 20:45.44 | Stormy | built the processor test machines |
| 20:45.44 | raf256 | so this is normal 32 bit celeron> |
| 20:45.47 | Stormy | yep |
| 20:45.51 | Stormy | x86 for you |
| 20:45.52 | raf256 | ok |
| 20:45.56 | dvs | raf256: They all are |
| 20:46.07 | Stormy | now can someone please tell me howto turn dpkg logging on? |
| 20:46.10 | Stormy | in sarge |
| 20:46.15 | linckraker | so how do i find out what ide chipset this computer has? |
| 20:46.19 | Stormy | lspci |
| 20:46.21 | Stormy | or dmesg |
| 20:46.39 | Stormy | anyone? |
| 20:46.43 | Stormy | please? |
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| 20:46.45 | pngwn | Stormy, could you slow down on the enter key? |
| 20:46.58 | Stormy | na, i drank too much caffene today |
| 20:47.31 | linckraker | Stormy, thank you |
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| 20:48.59 | tung | i just did an "aptitude dist-upgrade", and i think it reconfigure to xorg instead of XF86Config-4 |
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| 20:49.09 | rredd4 | will debian install ok on a compaq that has internal vid on the mobo? What do i select for a 17" monitor with the mobo vid card when installing? |
| 20:49.20 | tung | now, it x wont start, anyone know how i can change it back to XF86Config instead? |
| 20:49.21 | bubblenut | Hey, I just installed sarge with kde and I'm trimming it down a bit. I just tried to remove amor (silly little face thing) and synaptic says it has to remove KDE, how can I remove this without removing the whole of kde? |
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| 20:50.12 | dvs | !info kde sarge |
| 20:50.15 | dpkg | kde: (the K Desktop Environment official modules), section kde, is optional. Version: 5:44 (sarge), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB |
| 20:50.15 | delire | tung yes, it's fscked. but a dist-upgrade will migrate you to that distribution's default xserver. in your case, that's xorg, from the now deprecated XFree86 |
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| 20:51.27 | delire | tung you will need to read 'cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep EE' for errors and massage your config accordingly. |
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| 20:52.12 | delire | tung: debian is generally awful at migrations. xservers to ABI's.. reasonably hopeless. |
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| 20:53.01 | rredd4 | will debian install ok on a compaq that has internal vid on the mother board? What do i select for a 17" monitor with the mother board vid card when installing? |
| 20:53.28 | delire | rredd4 you will need to allow for clone mode or an extra monitor. may have to do this later. |
| 20:54.01 | bubblenut | I don't understand what that is supposed to be telling me |
| 20:55.34 | delire | bubblenut i'd be surprised if all of KDE is dependent on amor. stranger things have happened however. |
| 20:55.38 | rac | hi do you how to connect xp and debain using slip with a null-modem |
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| 20:55.55 | delire | rac: xp? |
| 20:56.01 | rac | yes |
| 20:56.07 | sylvisj | This is gonna sound really stupid, but I forgot how to DHCP a network interface |
| 20:56.11 | sylvisj | What is the command to do so? |
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| 20:56.24 | delire | rac: Windows you mean? |
| 20:56.36 | rac | yes soory |
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| 20:57.07 | delire | sylvisj one way is dhclient -d <interface> |
| 20:57.11 | sylvisj | dhclient |
| 20:57.12 | sylvisj | Ty |
| 20:57.12 | delire | rac: no idea sorry |
| 20:57.21 | delire | sylvisj or pump for that matter. |
| 20:57.28 | bubblenut | If I mark amor for removal in sytaptic it pops up a window marking kde for removal |
| 20:57.31 | sylvisj | Well, I knew it was dhc something |
| 20:57.33 | rredd4 | delire: never heard of clone mode. What do I do when the install asks me about my monitor and vid card.. skip it? or? |
| 20:57.39 | delire | bubblenut what is amor? |
| 20:57.42 | sylvisj | Brb on deb.. hopefully... |
| 20:57.45 | delire | bubblenut apt-cache show amor |
| 20:57.49 | Amorphous | aaaarg |
| 20:58.07 | delire | rredd4 are you on a laptop or tower? |
| 20:58.13 | rredd4 | tower |
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| 20:58.23 | bubblenut | It's this silly little widget of a head which just moves around the screen doing stuff, it's completely pointless |
| 20:58.25 | delire | rredd4 go through the process for one monitor. |
| 20:58.35 | bubblenut | It's part of the kde-amusements package |
| 20:58.41 | bubblenut | I believe |
| 20:58.42 | rredd4 | select vesa? |
| 20:58.44 | delire | rredd4 what graphics card? do you even have a TV out for clone mode? likely i read you wrong. |
| 20:58.49 | delire | rredd4 what card? |
| 20:58.53 | bubblenut | amor |
| 20:58.54 | tung | dellire: looks like my mouse device driver disappeared: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qfdfa821.html |
| 20:58.58 | tjostolf | bubblenut: kde is only a 'metapackage'. That means only kind of a listing of all the pacages in kde. You will not remove any kde-packages by removing 'kde' |
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| 20:59.19 | delire | bubblenut well that is stupid if kde is dependent on this. that's not 'amusing' is it ;) |
| 20:59.29 | tung | delire: looks like my mouse device driver disappeared: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qfdfa821.html |
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| 20:59.39 | bubblenut | Ahh, thanks, tjostolf, I'll go ahead then |
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| 20:59.39 | delire | tjostolf he wants to remove 'amor' an amusement. |
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| 20:59.51 | bubblenut | delire: yea, that's what I was thinking ;) |
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| 20:59.56 | delire | bubblenut hehe |
| 21:00.00 | rredd4 | delire: on the mother board, not a plug in card. Monitor plug is svga, which is part of the mobo |
| 21:00.35 | delire | rredd4 CTRL-ALT-F2, login and type 'lspci' |
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| 21:01.04 | delire | rredd4 need to find out what kind of onboard card it is. if you can't be bothered, sure, choose 'vesa' |
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| 21:01.41 | eguzkia | someone use isdn to connect |
| 21:01.42 | rredd4 | delire: currently on xp, debian not installed yet.. wanted info b4 i installed.. |
| 21:02.05 | jilocasin | ello all |
| 21:02.15 | delire | rredd4 sure. so you don't have X already running on that tower i take it. in otherwords you're not configuring an existing install.. |
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| 21:02.43 | rredd4 | not yet, but i am going to |
| 21:02.46 | jilocasin | Quick question, I upgraded from debian-sarge stable to testing, everything seemed to go fine, but I don't think grub was updated/ |
| 21:02.54 | jilocasin | how would I go about updating grub? |
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| 21:03.15 | astronut | jilocasin: dpkg -l | grep grub |
| 21:03.15 | delire | rredd4 some boards actually have on board graphics adapters with built-in graphics memory. this is good to take advantage of if possible. |
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| 21:03.31 | delire | rredd4 any, chooing vesa will get you up and running. you can tune later. |
| 21:03.37 | delysid25 | update-grub - program to generate GRUB's menu.lst file |
| 21:03.38 | delire | s/any/anyway |
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| 21:03.44 | rredd4 | delire: ty! |
| 21:03.48 | jilocasin | astronut: And what would that do for me |
| 21:03.48 | delire | rredd4 np |
| 21:04.02 | astronut | jilocasin: tell you what version |
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| 21:04.08 | astronut | delire: that's for the menu.lst |
| 21:04.16 | delire | astronut por que? |
| 21:04.17 | kbrooks | !ops |
| 21:04.18 | dpkg | Please invoke '!ops $problem' to call the ops to deal with a specific problem |
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| 21:04.42 | kbrooks | !ops spam bot msging people upon join |
| 21:04.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: spam bot msging people upon join |
| 21:04.46 | astronut | delire: that won't change the grub on the hd |
| 21:05.02 | astronut | oh, jilocasin, you want install-grub [Hard drive device] |
| 21:05.04 | gravity | It would help to know the name of the bot... |
| 21:05.07 | delire | astronut i think you're talking to the wrong nick. delysid25 spoke to you about this, not me. |
| 21:05.11 | astronut | ex, install-grub /dev/hda1 |
| 21:05.12 | tjostolf | jilocasin: read /usr/shar/doc/grub/README.Debian.gz |
| 21:05.14 | astronut | delire: oh, sorry |
| 21:05.18 | delire | np |
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| 21:05.25 | jilocasin | astronut: Ah, I meant update GRUB so that it recognizes the new keral that was installed. IT was 2.6.8, it upgraded to 2.6.16, but grub doesn't have an entry for 2.6.16, only 2.6.8 and if I choose that it isn't happy |
| 21:05.27 | delysid25 | and maybe i did not understand what he meant |
| 21:05.31 | delysid25 | disregard my post |
| 21:05.35 | astronut | oh, update-grub will do that |
| 21:05.44 | astronut | delysid25 was right on what you want |
| 21:05.48 | eckhart | hi, for some days now my apt does not trust the debian unstable/testing packages anymore |
| 21:05.49 | astronut | update-grub will change kernel list |
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| 21:05.59 | astronut | grub-intall will ugprade version of grub in MBR |
| 21:06.13 | astronut | gravity: barby[talkative] |
| 21:06.22 | gravity | astronut: Thanks |
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| 21:06.52 | metrix | does anyone know if there are any issues installing debian on an NFORCE2 chipset? |
| 21:06.53 | voicu | Hi, I have problems mounting NTFS partitions on Debian Sarge... I edited /etc/fstab but I can't access the drives unless I'm root. Can someone help me? |
| 21:07.14 | astronut | gravity: saw new X release, i'll check if nv still crashes once i write this paper |
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| 21:07.38 | astronut | my box locked up and i lost all my work..but i've finally traced the issue, think it's the graphics card fan stopping... |
| 21:07.38 | delire | voicu add the option 'user' to your fstab line |
| 21:07.48 | astronut | gravity: if a graphics card overheats, could it lock up the whole system? |
| 21:07.58 | gravity | astronut: I didn't change anything there, so it probably won't help. Most of this release was xlibs-data fixes and letting it build on other arches |
| 21:08.01 | voicu | delire, I did that and I get the same thing |
| 21:08.02 | gravity | astronut: Possibly, yeah |
| 21:08.05 | astronut | ah |
| 21:08.19 | delire | voicu paste your line here |
| 21:08.24 | astronut | gravity: i had 2 crashes, full lock up which seemed to be heat related (now i think it's grahics card heat) and then nvidia where i could ssh in and kill x |
| 21:08.35 | rredd4 | delire: I have a embedded linux (damn small linux) within win xp: the command lspci returned: "VGA Compatabile Controller: Cirrus Logic GD 5446" |
| 21:08.38 | astronut | nvidia seems to be fixed by 6.9 so i'm happy, even if nv is broke |
| 21:08.42 | voicu | delire: /dev/hda1 /media/hda1 ntfs ro,user,auto 0 0 |
| 21:08.49 | mortal | compatabile |
| 21:08.52 | mortal | is that italian? |
| 21:09.08 | delire | rredd4 right, just go for vesa (from what i can see). |
| 21:09.10 | voicu | mortal: it could be romanian too :D |
| 21:09.27 | rredd4 | delire: k ty! |
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| 21:09.33 | delire | rredd4 np. |
| 21:09.40 | delire | rredd4 and get a real card one day ;) |
| 21:09.45 | mortal | voicu: :D |
| 21:09.49 | tung | i somehow manage to lose all my input devices after doing an "aptitude dist-upgrade" http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qfdfa821.html |
| 21:10.02 | tung | anyone know how i can get my mouse back so that i can startx |
| 21:10.12 | blondie | cheese? |
| 21:10.25 | mortal | voicu: romanian would be cool to learn |
| 21:10.26 | metrix | anyone know of a free small ISO burner for windows? |
| 21:10.29 | astronut | tung: might be a udev issue... try "modprobe mosuedev && modprobe psmouse" |
| 21:10.34 | gravity | tung: Did you upgrade udev? |
| 21:10.43 | blondie | metrix: did you notice the channel name? |
| 21:10.46 | tung | gravity: udev? |
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| 21:10.54 | astronut | !udev |
| 21:10.54 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
| 21:11.01 | tung | gravity: i did an "aptitude upgrade" and then "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 21:11.06 | metrix | blondie: of course! but how am I supposed to install debian without an ISO burner? :/ |
| 21:11.12 | gravity | tung: And you have no idea what packages were upgraded? |
| 21:11.12 | astronut | tung: was udev in that list? |
| 21:11.13 | delire | tung in other words, a royal pain in the arse most of the time. |
| 21:11.25 | blondie | metrix: try the free version of nero? |
| 21:11.29 | voicu | mortal: yes, it would, romanian swearing is the best :) |
| 21:11.31 | tung | gravity: lol, yes |
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| 21:11.40 | blondie | OMG someone can spell "arse" |
| 21:11.47 | astronut | tung: try what i said |
| 21:11.48 | tung | gravity: i have no idea what i upgrade, i just did it on everything |
| 21:11.52 | metrix | blondie: there's a free version? i'll look that up. Thank you! |
| 21:11.53 | astronut | blondie: not that hard |
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| 21:11.58 | tung | delire: yes, pain in the ass |
| 21:11.59 | delire | blondie it should be spelt as it should be said. |
| 21:12.02 | blondie | astronut: unless you're american |
| 21:12.03 | gravity | tung: ... you *need* to install apt-listchanges right now |
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| 21:12.13 | astronut | blondie: i can spell "arse", but i use "ass" |
| 21:12.15 | gravity | tung: And try what astronut said |
| 21:12.16 | blondie | delire: I said can, not can't |
| 21:12.26 | delire | blondie i realise |
| 21:12.28 | blondie | astronut: an ass is a donkey |
| 21:12.36 | scarynetworkguy | metrix: If I point you at the link for the app that works for me at work do you swear to never speak to me of it again? |
| 21:12.39 | gravity | Or a bootie |
| 21:12.43 | astronut | blondie: yes...and a biscut is not a cookie |
| 21:12.51 | blondie | but a cookie is a biscuit |
| 21:12.59 | astronut | is not |
| 21:13.02 | blondie | yes it is. |
| 21:13.02 | astronut | a cookie is a cookie |
| 21:13.07 | astronut | a biscut is what you get at bojangles |
| 21:13.09 | blondie | it's a type of biscuit |
| 21:13.12 | astronut | it's a bread product |
| 21:13.16 | astronut | en_US > en_UK :-P |
| 21:13.20 | delire | 'cookie'. such a thumbsucking word. |
| 21:13.23 | metrix | scarynetworkguy: sure! wow... you really are a scary network guy! |
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| 21:13.49 | astronut | gravity: [BaByFaCe] is spambot |
| 21:13.50 | astronut | as i thoguht |
| 21:14.00 | tung | dammit, im using mIRC and cant figure out how to get highlighting to work properly, so im having trouble reading everything |
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| 21:14.10 | Stormy | is there anyway to get a list of the packages that were updated in the laste update of the system? |
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| 21:14.15 | scarynetworkguy | metrix: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm |
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| 21:14.16 | astronut | tung: modprobe mousedev && modprobe psmouse |
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| 21:14.21 | voicu | would anyone help me with my ntfs problem, pls? |
| 21:14.29 | astronut | voicu: M$? |
| 21:14.32 | astronut | wait, help, nm |
| 21:14.36 | metrix | scarynetworkguy: thank you! |
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| 21:14.47 | tung | astronut: thanks, ill try that |
| 21:15.52 | tung | astronut: "modprobe mousedev && modprobe psmouse" returned nothing |
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| 21:16.27 | voicu | when I mount the ntfs partitions the mount dirs become r-w --- --- so i can only enter them with root |
| 21:16.32 | astronut | right |
| 21:16.38 | astronut | tung: it shouldn't have any output |
| 21:16.41 | astronut | it loads the module (driver) |
| 21:16.43 | astronut | into the kernel |
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| 21:17.06 | astronut | gravity: my keyboard stopped working, was about to blame you, then realized i needed to change the batteries |
| 21:17.12 | gravity | heh |
| 21:17.13 | delire | hehe |
| 21:17.22 | gravity | That's good, given all the xkb issues I've been hassling with lately |
| 21:17.35 | astronut | ya, that's why i was going to blame you, i knew there had been some |
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| 21:17.43 | simonrvn | s/hassling/hassled/ :P |
| 21:17.53 | gravity | -2 resolves the majority of them it seems |
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| 21:18.03 | astronut | hey everybody! gravity is to blame for any problems in the debian user interface you have, so talk to him |
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| 21:18.05 | gravity | I think another one just got pinned down, although I need to actually patch the problem |
| 21:18.05 | astronut | :-P |
| 21:18.10 | gravity | hehe |
| 21:18.12 | astronut | gravity: that's good |
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| 21:18.22 | astronut | if i'm ever in boston, i'll buy you a drink, although ari can't come cause he hates me |
| 21:18.26 | simonrvn | xkb-data is the new package right? (trying to remember NEWS.Debian from apt-listchanges) |
| 21:18.42 | gravity | simonrvn: Yeah, although it should really be named xkeyboard-config |
| 21:18.53 | simonrvn | ok |
| 21:18.55 | gravity | simonrvn: We'll be shipping that as the default for modular, but right now it's still experimental |
| 21:19.05 | gravity | astronut: Sounds good :-) |
| 21:19.08 | simonrvn | gotcha |
| 21:19.10 | tung | astronut: i dont think it loaded the module, /dev/input is still missing |
| 21:19.23 | simonrvn | btw, x-strike force kicks butt |
| 21:19.25 | astronut | tung: hmm |
| 21:19.27 | astronut | tung: lsmod |
| 21:19.28 | gravity | simonrvn: I'm hoping to narrow down the problems with the current data a bit more so that I don't force people to use experimental stuff though |
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| 21:19.53 | simonrvn | first, having to contend with xfree, the licence change, and now going from monolithic to modular xorg.... |
| 21:19.54 | astronut | tung: bother Md if it doesn't work |
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| 21:19.59 | simonrvn | o_O |
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| 21:20.30 | astronut | gravity for dpl! |
| 21:20.42 | gravity | astronut: Stop scaring the children |
| 21:20.44 | weasel | d |
| 21:20.49 | astronut | although it's a rather *weighty* proposition |
| 21:20.56 | simonrvn | mass elect the XFS for DPL |
| 21:21.06 | simonrvn | ;) |
| 21:21.14 | astronut | s/xfs/xsf? |
| 21:21.21 | simonrvn | yes |
| 21:21.27 | tung | yeah, didnt think it worked: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/Uw0kBC46.html |
| 21:21.34 | astronut | simonrvn: how do you think branden got it? |
| 21:21.44 | astronut | precedence for you gravity |
| 21:21.52 | simonrvn | duh, i dunno :P |
| 21:22.08 | gravity | Well, I don't really want to be dpl right now. I have no desire to lead in that way. I'm happy just hacking on X right now. |
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| 21:22.12 | tung | lol, im screwed |
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| 21:22.18 | astronut | (he was head of XSF for a while) |
| 21:22.26 | astronut | tung: was either module listed? |
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| 21:22.39 | astronut | psmouse or mousdev? |
| 21:22.44 | simonrvn | astronut: i know. a long time |
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| 21:23.16 | astronut | gravity: oh, i know...it's vorlon who i'd love to be dpl, but he won't go near it...not enough time... |
| 21:23.32 | gravity | Thank god. vorlon is kicking plenty of ass where he's at |
| 21:23.33 | tung | mousedev is listed |
| 21:23.39 | stew | gravity: definately |
| 21:23.40 | smiler1987 | hi i was wondering if anyone had ever tried linux on a pocket pc i have an old one that i dont use and was thinking about it |
| 21:23.42 | astronut | tung: modprobe psmouse then |
| 21:23.43 | tung | and psmouse is listed too |
| 21:23.46 | astronut | oh |
| 21:23.50 | astronut | and no /dev/input/mice? |
| 21:23.52 | astronut | and you're on 2.6/ |
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| 21:23.53 | bubblenut | I'm trying to install sshd but I can't seem to find it in the package list, is there some other tool which debian uses instead? |
| 21:24.01 | astronut | do you have udev running/ |
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| 21:24.15 | delire | bubblenut openssh-server probably |
| 21:24.15 | stew | bubblenut: ssh for sarge, openssh-server for etch/sid |
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| 21:24.34 | astronut | gravity: DPL is more managment/political than technical, vorlon wants to (and should) stay technical |
| 21:24.40 | gravity | Right |
| 21:24.58 | gravity | I don't mind the management aspect at all, but right now the problems I want to work on are technical |
| 21:24.58 | tung | dont think udev is running, I "ps aux | grep udev" for it |
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| 21:25.14 | tung | nope, /dev/input/mice doesnt exist |
| 21:25.29 | astronut | tung: do you have udev installed? (dpkg -l | grep udev) |
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| 21:25.35 | smiler1987 | anyone ever tried linux on a pocket pc? |
| 21:25.49 | gravity | tung: Also, you need to purge hotplug if you have udev installed |
| 21:26.01 | tung | it says "ii udev 0.056-3 /dev/ management daemon |
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| 21:26.09 | tung | it says "ii udev 0.056-3 /dev/ management daemon", so yes, i think udev is installed |
| 21:26.24 | bubblenut | stew: I've got the ssh package installed but I don't seem to have an ssh server |
| 21:26.32 | hartseerbeer | any 1 wanna join me for a jack daniels and lemonade? |
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| 21:26.45 | astronut | tung: /etc/init.d/udev start |
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| 21:26.58 | tung | apt-get stays hotplug is not installed |
| 21:27.23 | tung | punisher:/home/tung# /etc/init.d/udev start |
| 21:27.24 | tung | FATAL: udev is already active on /dev. |
| 21:27.26 | bubblenut | Straight single malt for me, cheers |
| 21:27.31 | astronut | tung: ah |
| 21:27.33 | astronut | found it |
| 21:27.33 | tung | lol, weird |
| 21:27.36 | astronut | Md to the rescute |
| 21:27.40 | astronut | your udev is too old |
| 21:27.50 | astronut | you need at least 072 |
| 21:28.23 | tung | so, im going to apt-get install udev to upgrade it? |
| 21:28.47 | astronut | yes |
| 21:29.03 | bubblenut | DOH! It was in /usr/sbin of course, sorry for being a dumbass |
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| 21:30.12 | edt | how do I tell debian that I DO have java installed. I remember there is some way to build a dummy package when you have directly installed the sun stuff |
| 21:30.27 | stouset | edt: Use java-package to install the Sun stuff. |
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| 21:31.02 | edt | I want to control which jvm is in use at any given time |
| 21:31.08 | stouset | edt: It wraps their shell script in something that compiles Java and makes a .deb for you. |
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| 21:31.20 | stouset | edt: In which case, you're even better off going this way, since it works with Debian's alternatives system. |
| 21:31.47 | stouset | edt: Or you could do it the hard way and compile them on your own, install them, and then make dummy packages. |
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| 21:31.59 | edt | I just keep link to java in usr/local which is really easy |
| 21:32.18 | edt | were can I find docs on dummy packages? |
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| 21:33.02 | caphuso | edt: apt-cache show equivs |
| 21:33.02 | sylvisj | OOOkkkaayyy |
| 21:33.05 | sylvisj | I think I just went blind |
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| 21:33.21 | stouset | edt: Since you insist on doing it the far harder way, google for equivs. |
| 21:33.25 | tung | dammit, it says that i need "udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12", |
| 21:33.27 | astronut | sylvisj: yet you're remarkebly typo free |
| 21:33.28 | tung | punisher:/boot# ls |
| 21:33.28 | tung | config-2.6.8-2-386 grub initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386 System.map-2.6.8-2-386 vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 21:33.35 | edt | caphuso thanks |
| 21:33.35 | astronut | wait, what kernel do you have? |
| 21:33.38 | sylvisj | Lol |
| 21:33.39 | stouset | tung: ...so don't install udev. |
| 21:33.44 | sylvisj | Debian install went fine... nvidia setup went fine... kde setup went fine... and then I meet hell. |
| 21:33.55 | stouset | sylvisj: Was he polite? |
| 21:33.57 | tung | lol, sylvisj |
| 21:33.57 | sylvisj | Reboot.. and everything is weird-like. The colors... odd as hell |
| 21:34.02 | astronut | tung: uname -a |
| 21:34.05 | astronut | paste here please |
| 21:34.07 | edt | stouset since I switch jvms quite often its worth the extra bit of effort - thanks |
| 21:34.25 | tung | punisher:/boot# uname -a |
| 21:34.25 | tung | Linux punisher 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:34.32 | astronut | hmm |
| 21:34.32 | stouset | edt: That's what the alternatives system exists for. |
| 21:34.39 | tung | looks like ive got 2.6.8 and i need 2.6.12 |
| 21:34.39 | astronut | i take it back then, being too old isn't a problem |
| 21:34.42 | sylvisj | For some reason, all the shades and colors and everything are very, very fucked up under linux |
| 21:34.53 | astronut | tung: you don't need the newer udev then |
| 21:34.58 | tung | okay |
| 21:35.00 | sylvisj | It's all good right now (I'm on winblows), but I boot into linux... the first console stuff is fine, but after I get into KDM it dies |
| 21:35.01 | astronut | sylvisj: blame gravity! |
| 21:35.21 | stouset | edt: With the upside that the solution also works with non-Sun java implementations, too, like gcj |
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| 21:35.30 | sylvisj | So... anyone have a clue what's wrong w/ my sys? |
| 21:35.32 | tung | damn, i remember when i was doing the aptitude dist-upgrade, it ask me if i wanted to use, "XF86Config or Xorg", i chosed xorg |
| 21:35.41 | tung | was that my mistake? |
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| 21:35.43 | astronut | tung: blame gravity |
| 21:35.46 | astronut | :-P |
| 21:35.58 | tung | way to go gravity |
| 21:35.59 | stouset | tung: No, that was not a mistake at all. |
| 21:36.05 | astronut | tung: just change your xorg.conf |
| 21:36.06 | tung | when i really needed you, you failed |
| 21:36.08 | tung | miserably |
| 21:36.16 | stouset | tung: Just be glad it doesn't fail the rest of the time. |
| 21:36.22 | stouset | tung: Unless you prefer to be flung into space. |
| 21:36.24 | astronut | use /dev/psaux instead of /dev/input/mice |
| 21:36.26 | tung | lol |
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| 21:37.00 | sylvisj | Ok... so after reading the descriptions of what's wrong with my system... anyone know what I should do to fix it? Or at least have an idea? |
| 21:37.19 | stouset | tung: You'll be okay for a bit, since the atmosphere will be flung with you at the same speed. But it will diminish proportional to the square of the distance you've gone, so I give you maybe an hour. |
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| 21:37.29 | stouset | sylvisj: Paste your xorg.conf in a paster. |
| 21:37.52 | sylvisj | ... that's gonna be interesting... afk |
| 21:38.44 | tung | i dont have /dev/psaux neither, i get the same error in the Xorg.0.log file |
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| 21:39.17 | tung | you figure a mouse would be such a basic component... |
| 21:39.32 | astronut | tung: let me see if md can help you, sounds like a udev issue |
| 21:39.42 | astronut | tung: /etc/init.d/udev restart |
| 21:39.45 | tung | who's md? |
| 21:39.55 | astronut | Marco d'Itri, the udev maintainer |
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| 21:40.15 | astronut | gravity is David Nuisnow, the xorg maintainer, which is why i kept saying to blame him |
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| 21:40.22 | DarkAgenT | Um Im having trouble with xserver-xorg |
| 21:40.35 | astronut | DarkAgenT: blame gravity :-P |
| 21:40.36 | gravity | Sorry, I'll try to help in a little bit. I'm working on something right now |
| 21:40.38 | DarkAgenT | :/ |
| 21:41.04 | DarkAgenT | argh |
| 21:41.08 | DarkAgenT | Who can help? |
| 21:41.17 | gravity | DarkAgenT: What's the problem? |
| 21:41.20 | blondie | be more specific |
| 21:41.25 | DarkAgenT | Do you want to see for youself |
| 21:41.36 | tung | gravity: cool |
| 21:41.36 | astronut | DarkAgenT: why don't you just tell us |
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| 21:42.07 | tung | i screwed myself over by doing a random "aptitude dist-upgrade" |
| 21:42.07 | tung | lol |
| 21:42.30 | gravity | DarkAgenT: wtf |
| 21:42.39 | astronut | DarkAgenT: please just describe your issue, i'm not ssh'ing to your machine |
| 21:42.42 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Just tell me... |
| 21:42.46 | tung | lol |
| 21:43.00 | DarkAgenT | Well xserver wont operate |
| 21:43.06 | tung | thats why youve been blaming gravity |
| 21:43.09 | DarkAgenT | udated it |
| 21:43.11 | tung | it IS his fault |
| 21:43.18 | blondie | DarkAgenT: you need to give error messages etc |
| 21:43.39 | DarkAgenT | The following packages have unmet dependencies. |
| 21:43.40 | DarkAgenT | xserver-xorg: Depends: xserver-common (>= 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2) but it is not going |
| 21:43.41 | astronut | blondie: he offered me (and i assume gravity) ssh access to his machine |
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| 21:43.47 | DarkAgenT | ;) |
| 21:43.49 | blondie | oh |
| 21:44.02 | gravity | DarkAgenT: What do you mean "it is not going"? |
| 21:44.07 | astronut | !xorg |
| 21:44.07 | dpkg | somebody said xorg was X.Org X11, the reference implementation of the X Window System, forked from XFree86 4.4RC2. The current release is X11R6.9. ask me about <get xorg>, or #xorg |
| 21:44.12 | gravity | DarkAgenT: What architecture are you running on? |
| 21:44.12 | astronut | !get xorg |
| 21:44.12 | dpkg | X.Org is in Etch but not in Sarge. xserver-xorg replaces XFree86's xserver-xfree86. updating x-window-system-core/x-window-system on Etch will bring it in. for X.org on Sarge, ask me about <xorg sarge> |
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| 21:44.28 | DarkAgenT | 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Tue Aug 16 12:46:35 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 21:44.40 | aSmO | jest tu jakis polak????:D |
| 21:44.53 | blondie | astronut: no |
| 21:44.57 | blondie | erm |
| 21:45.00 | blondie | no |
| 21:45.02 | blondie | aSmO: no |
| 21:45.10 | aSmO | siemanko |
| 21:45.16 | DarkAgenT | now what? |
| 21:45.19 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Ok... then what do you mean by "it's not going"? |
| 21:45.28 | DarkAgenT | well I cant install anything with apt-get |
| 21:45.30 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Do you not have xserver-xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2? |
| 21:45.32 | DarkAgenT | and cant fix it with dpkg |
| 21:45.33 | aSmO | sluchaj szukam kogos kto wie jak zainstalowac tlenx na debianie:D |
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| 21:46.08 | DarkAgenT | how can I check? |
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| 21:46.34 | gravity | DarkAgenT: apt-cache policy xserver-xorg |
| 21:46.36 | aSmO | ?? |
| 21:46.55 | DarkAgenT | Installed: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-1 |
| 21:47.05 | DarkAgenT | Candidate: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-2 |
| 21:47.08 | gravity | Oooookay... so why won't it upgrade to -2? |
| 21:47.11 | sylvisj | !paste |
| 21:47.11 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 21:47.12 | DarkAgenT | I cant |
| 21:47.17 | gravity | Why not? |
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| 21:47.34 | DarkAgenT | Ill pm you it |
| 21:47.40 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Don't |
| 21:47.44 | sylvisj | Ok |
| 21:47.44 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Put it in a pastebing |
| 21:47.45 | DarkAgenT | flood? |
| 21:47.49 | sylvisj | This is the XF86 config |
| 21:47.49 | sylvisj | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1493 |
| 21:47.50 | DarkAgenT | pastebing? |
| 21:47.55 | gravity | !paster |
| 21:47.55 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 21:48.06 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Use that ^ |
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| 21:49.16 | DarkAgenT | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1494. |
| 21:49.20 | DarkAgenT | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1494 |
| 21:50.08 | pmdboi | hey, al... i was just trying to compile a program with gcc with the flags -L/usr/X11R6/lib -lXmu on debian ppc. ld complained that it couldn't find -lXmu, and looking in /usr/X11R6/lib, it looks like there's libXmu.so.6 and libXmu.so.6.2, but no libXmu.so. is there an extra package that i need to install, or should i make a new softlink by hand? |
| 21:50.12 | pmdboi | s/al/all/ |
| 21:50.19 | pmdboi | whoa |
| 21:50.20 | pmdboi | that's neat |
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| 21:50.57 | DarkAgenT | what do you think gravity? |
| 21:51.06 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Are you out of hard drive space or anything? |
| 21:51.09 | DarkAgenT | nope |
| 21:51.16 | DarkAgenT | how can i check ;) |
| 21:51.18 | gravity | That's really weird |
| 21:51.27 | DarkAgenT | yes it is |
| 21:51.31 | DarkAgenT | I cant even to dpkg --configure -a |
| 21:51.32 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Why are you running unstable if you don't even know about df? |
| 21:51.52 | DarkAgenT | I got plently of space |
| 21:51.59 | tung | oh, i think /dev/psaux wont work because i have a usb mouse |
| 21:52.04 | roue | hi folks. |
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| 21:52.12 | tung | in the xorg.conf file for "Configured mouse" |
| 21:52.24 | DarkAgenT | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1495 |
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| 21:52.42 | DarkAgenT | I tried removing it and it faulters |
| 21:52.55 | sylvisj | Ok people, I'm having a huge problem with my display. As soon as kdm loads, the colors are all fucked up. Nothing renders properly. It's really, really dark, and only a few colors show. Before kdm loads, the console is fine. Afterwards, the console looks the same way. Any clue what's up? |
| 21:53.02 | valdyn | pmdboi: libxmu-dev |
| 21:53.16 | roue | I'm running sarge and having trouble compiling. I get this error from ./configure : checking whether the C compiler (gcc -O2 -g -Wall ) works... no / configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. |
| 21:53.24 | jilocasin | re all |
| 21:53.35 | pmdboi | wonderful, thanks |
| 21:53.39 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Try doing dpkg-reconfigure debconf and setting it to the dialog frontend |
| 21:53.43 | valdyn | !b-e roue |
| 21:53.43 | dpkg | roue: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 21:53.43 | DarkAgenT | kk |
| 21:53.47 | roue | mind you, this is a stripped down install of 3.1 that I'm running in an nfsroot. I think I've just excluded a package I really need. |
| 21:53.52 | DarkAgenT | I thought I did that awhile ago |
| 21:54.08 | DarkAgenT | but it cant connect to xserver |
| 21:54.12 | roue | thank you dpkg - doing that now. |
| 21:54.12 | dpkg | roue: no problem |
| 21:54.21 | roue | dpkg - I always thought you were a bot. |
| 21:54.24 | jilocasin | astronut: Thanks for the advice, I ran update-grub, but it didn't recognize the new kernel(did it even install?), but I seem to have been biten by the e2fs bug in 1.39 |
| 21:54.36 | DarkAgenT | gravity I can remove anything |
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| 21:54.46 | DarkAgenT | Can I remove manually with dpkg? |
| 21:54.57 | gravity | DarkAgenT: You can't run dpkg-reconfigure debconf? |
| 21:54.59 | mboso | xterm is having trouble loading some fonts. when i use xset -q i see that some font directories are missing, but when i look at my Xorg log file, it looks like the directories were loaded. when i try to add the missing directory with 'xset fp+ /font/dir' it gives an error. |
| 21:55.00 | DarkAgenT | no |
| 21:55.01 | gravity | It should fall back to dialog |
| 21:55.06 | gravity | hrmpf, there's your problem |
| 21:55.13 | gravity | debconf is failing for some reason... |
| 21:55.13 | jilocasin | how do I roll it back to 1.38 (the version bugs.debian.org says doesn't exhibit this problem? |
| 21:55.15 | DarkAgenT | its not falling back |
| 21:55.33 | idis | pmdboi: and then no need to -L, lib and headers would be in correct library_path |
| 21:55.35 | DarkAgenT | Now do you fallback to dialog? |
| 21:55.45 | roue | dpkg: that did the trick. thanks. |
| 21:56.17 | DarkAgenT | Oh it uninstalled |
| 21:56.22 | gravity | DarkAgenT: It should do it automatically |
| 21:57.05 | DarkAgenT | Hm should I restart |
| 21:57.09 | gravity | No |
| 21:57.10 | DarkAgenT | and let x server try and recover? |
| 21:57.12 | gravity | That won't help |
| 21:57.17 | gravity | This ain't windows |
| 21:57.22 | DarkAgenT | heheh |
| 21:57.27 | DarkAgenT | I just got back to nix |
| 21:57.47 | DarkAgenT | Well it worked when x server wouldn't work the last time |
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| 21:58.05 | DarkAgenT | Said x server could not connect, then restart it started fine |
| 21:58.05 | raf256[laptop] | does debian have own live cd? other then knoppix in example |
| 21:58.07 | gravity | Well, you can try... |
| 21:58.07 | sylvisj | ... can anyone here help me out? |
| 21:58.13 | DarkAgenT | what restart command? |
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| 21:58.21 | gravity | You have to ask? |
| 21:58.42 | DarkAgenT | shutdown -F |
| 21:58.48 | gravity | Or... "restart" |
| 21:58.49 | sylvisj | gravity, yeah. |
| 21:58.55 | sylvisj | Some don't know that. |
| 21:58.59 | sylvisj | Poweroff... shutdown... |
| 21:59.04 | gravity | sylvisj: He's running *unstable* |
| 21:59.10 | gravity | I mean... come on |
| 21:59.13 | sylvisj | zOMG. That must change ALL LINUX COMMANDS. |
| 21:59.23 | DarkAgenT | ;) |
| 21:59.26 | gravity | I'm all for using unstable to learn, but fucking A, you should know how to reboot your machine if you're running it |
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| 21:59.34 | sylvisj | I know. |
| 21:59.36 | DarkAgenT | Can I go stable on an unstable install :P |
| 21:59.45 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Not without a reinstall |
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| 21:59.54 | DarkAgenT | crap |
| 22:00.06 | DarkAgenT | I have to wait until monday |
| 22:00.38 | sylvisj | Ok, everyone, I'm needing major help with my display. After KDM loads, none of the colors nor shades are right on my display. Pre-load, they're fine. After it loads, even in consoles, the colors are off. I'm using a 7800GT. Anyone have an idea what's up? |
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| 22:00.49 | DarkAgenT | The system is going down for reboot NOW!x.us (pts/1) (Sat Jan 7 14:00:56 200 |
| 22:01.10 | bluefox83 | this is probably off topic for this channel...but does anyone know where i can dl a copy o ftribes 2 for linux? |
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| 22:01.26 | DarkAgenT | I get nervous when I do remote reboots |
| 22:01.28 | mboso | can you have truetype fonts on your system without running xfs? |
| 22:01.29 | bluefox83 | *of tribes 2 |
| 22:01.51 | sylvisj | .... and no one here responds to my plea for help. |
| 22:02.01 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, what plea? |
| 22:02.17 | gravity | sylvisj: Is this with the fglx drivers? |
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| 22:02.21 | sylvisj | nvidia. |
| 22:02.28 | gravity | sylvisj: Can't help you. |
| 22:02.33 | gravity | Try nv I guess |
| 22:02.35 | sylvisj | Bluefox... i've stated my problem twice and asked for help. No one except gravity here has answered. |
| 22:02.42 | sylvisj | Tried, same issue. |
| 22:02.46 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, i just got here |
| 22:02.51 | sylvisj | Alrighty. |
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| 22:03.05 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, be quick i have to go cook dinner soon |
| 22:03.09 | tung | where is the udev log file? im trying to figure how why the mouse wont load |
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| 22:03.10 | Znh_ | hello |
| 22:03.14 | DarkAgenT | sweet a good reboot |
| 22:03.14 | sylvisj | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1493 <<----- XF86Config-4 file. "Ok, everyone, I'm needing major help with my display. After KDM loads, none of the colors nor shades are right on my display. Pre-load, they're fine. After it loads, even in consoles, the colors are off. I'm using a 7800GT. Anyone have an idea what's up?" |
| 22:03.20 | Znh_ | I ran the setup for x-window-system, how can I run it again? |
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| 22:03.56 | Znh_ | and why is debian using XFree86 |
| 22:04.00 | sylvisj | apt-get remove x-window-system ; apt-get install x-window-system seems like a winner.... if you just need to reconfigure, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 22:04.39 | DarkAgenT | Hm could I try and reinstall dialog? |
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| 22:05.02 | gravity | Znh_: Sarge has XFree86 due to decisions made during the release process with respect to timing. Etch will ship with Xorg |
| 22:05.02 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, re-install your nvidia drivers (after uninstalling them first, don't be lazy and let th einstaller try, it wont work corractly) |
| 22:05.27 | Znh_ | (WW) NV: No matching device section for instance.. detected |
| 22:05.42 | sylvisj | I didn't use the installer, I built them. |
| 22:05.48 | bluefox83 | use the installer |
| 22:05.55 | Znh_ | I cant even get the X server running :/ |
| 22:06.06 | sylvisj | :s HAven't had problems with building them before now... |
| 22:06.18 | gravity | Znh_: Can you post your /var/log/XFree.0.log in a paster? |
| 22:06.22 | sylvisj | !nvidia-oneline |
| 22:06.24 | DarkAgenT | so how do you reconfigure xserver? |
| 22:06.26 | sylvisj | !nvidia 1line |
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| 22:06.36 | sylvisj | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86/xorg |
| 22:06.39 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Your problem is debconf failing. You have to find out why. |
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| 22:06.44 | gravity | It's not X's fault |
| 22:06.47 | DarkAgenT | :/ hm |
| 22:06.50 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, the drivers are a little wonky in the 2.6 kernels, you gotta beat the crap out of them to get e'm to work, but once they start working they run awesome |
| 22:06.52 | DarkAgenT | where do I start? |
| 22:06.55 | Znh_ | k sure |
| 22:06.58 | gravity | DarkAgenT: Check the bts |
| 22:07.11 | shadowarts | how can i look at a changelog before i update software on my system with apt-get upgrade? |
| 22:07.19 | sylvisj | Hmm, alrighty. Again, I've used 2.6 kernels before now with no problems :S Would I just apt-get remove all the downloaded files and delete the built kernel? |
| 22:07.28 | DarkAgenT | bts? |
| 22:07.33 | bluefox83 | no |
| 22:07.36 | gravity | 1bts |
| 22:07.38 | gravity | !bts |
| 22:07.38 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 22:07.51 | astronut | Shadowcat: apt-listchanges |
| 22:07.51 | sylvisj | How woudl I go about removing them? |
| 22:07.58 | bluefox83 | go to the driver directory and do a make clean |
| 22:08.00 | DarkAgenT | when I get back Im doing all this |
| 22:08.18 | sylvisj | Rgr, brb..... |
| 22:08.18 | Znh_ | gravity: http://isl33t.net/XFree86.0.log |
| 22:08.22 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, the directory where you did the ./configure and such for the driver i mean |
| 22:08.23 | shadowarts | ok thank you |
| 22:08.28 | sylvisj | Bluefox |
| 22:08.31 | sylvisj | I didn't. |
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| 22:08.36 | DarkAgenT | gravity it freezes up while removing xserver-common |
| 22:08.42 | bluefox83 | then how'd you build them? |
| 22:08.47 | brass | can the installer be run from an already installed system? |
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| 22:09.09 | sylvisj | http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 22:09.17 | gravity | DarkAgenT: That really shouldn't happen |
| 22:09.26 | gravity | debconf doesn't touch anything that should cause a freeze |
| 22:09.26 | Znh_ | (WW) NV: No matching device section for instance.. detected <-- http://isl33t.net/XFree86.0.log help please |
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| 22:09.39 | DarkAgenT | hm isn't there anything manual I can do |
| 22:09.41 | DarkAgenT | with dpkg |
| 22:10.03 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, using a stock or custom kernel? |
| 22:10.10 | DarkAgenT | so the main problem would be xserver isn't starting correct? |
| 22:10.12 | sylvisj | Stock. 2.6 |
| 22:10.15 | gravity | Znh_: Try using the vesa driver instead. What nvidia card do you hae? |
| 22:10.20 | sylvisj | 2.6.8-2, actually |
| 22:10.25 | Znh_ | gravity: Riva TNT2 |
| 22:10.30 | gravity | DarkAgenT: I already told you what the main problem is. Twice. |
| 22:10.37 | Znh_ | gravity: ATi radeon card had the same issue with the radeon driver |
| 22:10.51 | gravity | hrmpf |
| 22:11.05 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, before you do anything, go to the nvidia site and download their driver |
| 22:11.05 | DarkAgenT | is it a severities |
| 22:11.14 | metrix | i'm having major trouble with debian and networking with my k7n2 nforce2 board. Debian on installation will not recognize my nforce network card, so I installed another network card(I have tried 2). each card I try is setup as eth0 but will not send out packets. I have done some googling and can't find any articles on this. can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 22:11.15 | bluefox83 | then apt-get remove nvidia-glx |
| 22:11.24 | sylvisj | Alrighty. I should try and use their installer? |
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| 22:11.34 | Znh_ | gravity: No matching device section @ vesa |
| 22:11.41 | gravity | Znh_: I think you may want to try an Xorg backport. It seems like something's wrong deep in the xserver, that may have been fixed |
| 22:12.03 | Znh_ | gravity: so I have to add something to my sources.list right? |
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| 22:12.07 | DarkAgenT | Im going to try reinstalling dialog |
| 22:12.07 | gravity | Znh_: Yeah... |
| 22:12.09 | gravity | !xorg sarge |
| 22:12.10 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, xorg sarge is now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 22:12.12 | tung | okay, still cant get xwindows to run because my mouse wont load: gotto http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/xSvIgD78.html for details |
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| 22:12.13 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, yeah, i have never had any luck with the debian installer, the nvidia one is more reliable IMO |
| 22:12.17 | sylvisj | Alrighty. |
| 22:12.19 | tung | any help is appreciated |
| 22:12.20 | Znh_ | gravity: can you tell me what, I dont have anything graphical up |
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| 22:12.22 | gravity | Znh_: Check backports.org and it should have the instructions for you |
| 22:12.26 | gravity | One second... |
| 22:12.28 | sylvisj | Umm... should I go with Linux IA-32? There is no x86 one for linux... |
| 22:12.44 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, but pls be sure to remove the nvidia-glx BEFORE trying to run the installer |
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| 22:12.52 | bluefox83 | sylvisj, yes |
| 22:12.55 | sylvisj | Alrighty. |
| 22:13.05 | shadowarts | ok how do i exclude a package from upgrading? |
| 22:13.09 | Muffin | Hello, I'm having a GPG error NO_PUBKEY problem when apt-get updating. |
| 22:13.31 | bluefox83 | Muffin, /topic |
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| 22:13.40 | Muffin | Wow. |
| 22:13.42 | Muffin | Sorry for being lame. |
| 22:13.47 | bluefox83 | s'ok :) |
| 22:14.29 | gravity | Znh_: Probably "deb http://www.backports.org/debian sarge-backports" or something very similar |
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| 22:15.22 | Znh_ | gravity: + main works yes :P |
| 22:15.28 | gravity | Znh_: Cool |
| 22:15.46 | Cyberia | hi ppl .. |
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| 22:15.53 | Znh_ | gravity: so I remove xserver-xfree86 and get xserver-xorg instead? |
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| 22:16.08 | Znh_ | gravity: ah goes automaticly after removing xfree86 |
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| 22:17.20 | gravity | Znh_: Right :-) |
| 22:17.33 | Cyberia | i'm trying to install debian on a new pc, but it doesn't want to pick up my network card (witch is Intel Gb LAN ) anybody has any ideas what should i do? |
| 22:18.22 | Znh_ | gravity: same errors |
| 22:19.14 | Znh_ | according to my kernel version.. I am not suprised.. 2.6.8, hell thats old people. whats wrong with the repos? - are they being updated ever? |
| 22:19.26 | gravity | Znh_: That's stable. So, no |
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| 22:19.45 | hool | 'lo peepz .. :) |
| 22:19.50 | gravity | Stable doesn't change except for critical bugs, and practically never with a new version |
| 22:19.52 | benjamindees | I should theoretically be able to run i586 packages on a k7 ? |
| 22:19.55 | Znh_ | well no debian on this machine |
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| 22:20.26 | hool | what do i need to put into /etc/fstab to get the cdrom working ( Have 2 of them ) one is hda and one is hdb |
| 22:20.48 | Muffin | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:20.48 | Muffin | <Cyberia> hi ppl .. |
| 22:20.48 | Muffin | *o* Veratien [n=heifer@pdpc/supporter/student/Veratien] has joined #debian |
| 22:20.48 | Muffin | <Znh_> gravity: so I remove xserver-xfree86 and get xserver-xorg instead? |
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| 22:21.08 | Veratien | Someone hit the wrong button. |
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| 22:22.27 | DarkAgenT | hey is there a way to install dialog manually? |
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| 22:22.51 | Muffin | Really really sorry. I blame synergy2. :-( |
| 22:23.15 | DarkAgenT | hey Muffin I got excellent ping from you from my server |
| 22:23.26 | Muffin | After /msg dpkg 2006 key, I typed the relevant commands, and it now seems to be hanging. It sayis that the public key is imported, but gpg is not exiting. |
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| 22:23.44 | brass | is there a way to rerun debconf, or something similar, to bring a barebones install upto a fuller install? |
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| 22:23.48 | Muffin | DarkAgenT: That's because you're using qwest and I'm on UO campus. |
| 22:23.57 | DarkAgenT | Naah Im 6 blocks from there ;) |
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| 22:24.06 | DarkAgenT | Near Franklin |
| 22:24.14 | Muffin | Nice! |
| 22:24.17 | DarkAgenT | :P |
| 22:24.29 | DarkAgenT | I put my server in a school |
| 22:24.33 | Muffin | I should've said, "in Eugene." |
| 22:24.35 | DarkAgenT | 158.165.66.229 |
| 22:24.41 | Cyberia | is there any howto on building an install CD with a custom kernel to support special hardware not supported by standard debian kernels? |
| 22:24.41 | DarkAgenT | ping and traceroute that |
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| 22:24.48 | DarkAgenT | you'll see what response times you'll get |
| 22:24.55 | tung | md , you in here yet? |
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| 22:25.01 | Muffin | 1.5, 1.2 ms...man. |
| 22:25.04 | DarkAgenT | ;) |
| 22:25.05 | sandy | hello, I am trying to view pages in hebrew and arabic using mozilla fire fox, but all pages comes up in jibrish, and some funny characters, could please tell me what should have to install?, I do not know if is a system base problem or a mozilla problem. but I tried other browsers and still doing the same thing |
| 22:25.11 | SLLs|SCORE | is there is any one named daniel??? |
| 22:25.34 | DarkAgenT | I get 1ms too all uoregon.edu servers |
| 22:25.50 | ekkikrist | sandy: I get the same thing too with english pages heheheh |
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| 22:25.54 | DarkAgenT | I wish they participated in open source projects |
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| 22:26.06 | Muffin | Yeah, seriously. |
| 22:26.26 | BlackJudas | Can someone help with lvm devices in /dev? Mine disappeared when udev was accidentally installed (well my own fault actually... fuck I have udev)... anyway I uninstalled udev and re-installed hotplug and ran MAKEDEV in /dev... prior to this I created a volume group and an lvg ... what Major/minor stuff do I have to add it to /dev as? |
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| 22:26.45 | sandy | I am back, and still waiting for an answer please |
| 22:26.49 | brass | sandy: can you read hebrew in other apps? is hebrew language installed? |
| 22:26.57 | DarkAgenT | Muffin is there a way to manually install dialog? |
| 22:27.06 | DarkAgenT | I have to have this server ready for IRCd |
| 22:27.16 | Muffin | Unsure...I've had poor luck trying to make IRCd work, myself. |
| 22:27.31 | DarkAgenT | I already got it working on both win32 and nix |
| 22:27.38 | frem | The last laptop I installed Debian on, the touchpad worked smoothly and the side of the touchpad scrolled, and it was really nice. That was a Gateway Solo 2500. I just installed Debian on a Compaq Prosignia, and I don't get any of that. Is there some package I need to install or something? |
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| 22:28.09 | albacker | which is the latest debian version ? |
| 22:28.20 | albacker | stable debian version ? what would someone suggest me to get ? |
| 22:28.21 | Muffin | Hmmmm... |
| 22:28.23 | albacker | i use ubuntu atm |
| 22:28.33 | DarkAgenT | unbuntu yuck |
| 22:28.37 | ekkikrist | :) |
| 22:28.40 | egon_spengler | allbacker That would be 3.1r1 |
| 22:28.57 | DarkAgenT | kubuntu is better ;) |
| 22:28.57 | albacker | egon_spengler, what kernel ? |
| 22:29.04 | albacker | kde sux tho' |
| 22:29.23 | egon_spengler | albacker: Couldn't tell you since I run a K7 on my aging athlon |
| 22:29.33 | albacker | anyone can tel me ? |
| 22:29.41 | albacker | what kernel does 3.1r1 use ? |
| 22:29.50 | ekkikrist | albacker: Should be 2.6.8 or 2.6.11 |
| 22:30.00 | ekkikrist | albacker: It doesn't really matter honestly :) |
| 22:30.03 | albacker | isnt there a later version ? |
| 22:30.05 | frem | 2.6.8-3-686 here. |
| 22:30.05 | DarkAgenT | Muffin http://channels.debian.net/paste/1497 |
| 22:30.10 | ekkikrist | albacker: doesn't matter... |
| 22:30.12 | sandy | brass: no I can not read hebrew, I checked symantic package...I found a lot of packages to install, I do not know which one...would it be the font one? |
| 22:30.31 | sandy | brass: or the xfont |
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| 22:30.44 | Muffin | Yeah, sweet. I got a similar 7 hops from a machine that's not on wireless. |
| 22:30.49 | ekkikrist | albacker: These particular versions are picked because they have less bugs hehehe... newer versions may have unknown bugs |
| 22:30.52 | albacker | ekkikrist, yes it does, my friend is bringing me the CDs from USA [i have dialup and i cant find ISOs here], so i want the latest software/kernel/ |
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| 22:31.01 | DarkAgenT | heheh |
| 22:31.10 | ekkikrist | albacker: Dude it doesn't matter |
| 22:31.11 | DarkAgenT | Whats the max bandwidth you get there? |
| 22:31.17 | ekkikrist | albacker: As long as it works |
| 22:31.17 | DarkAgenT | Isn't 3MB/sec? |
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| 22:31.35 | Agrajag- | gday - localedef --list-archive doesn't list a locale that i want installed - how do i go about installing it? |
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| 22:31.55 | evert | Hi guys, I have a question.. I know this has probably been asked a thousand times; but what is the official status of adoption of PHP5.1 in Debian? |
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| 22:32.28 | ekkikrist | albacker: If you want the latest, why the hell does this crash, I don't know version of the linux kernel you can use the unstable branch of debian. |
| 22:32.49 | gravity | evert: I'd imagine the maintainers are working on it in alioth, iirc |
| 22:32.58 | gravity | evert: I don't follow or use php myself though, so I don't know |
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| 22:33.16 | evert | thanks gravity, thats good to know |
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| 22:33.46 | gravity | evert: http://alioth.debian.org/mail/?group_id=30320 |
| 22:33.57 | gravity | evert: Those two lists should tell you everything that's going on |
| 22:34.04 | gravity | I recommend reading their archives |
| 22:34.11 | evert | ahh thanks very much! |
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| 22:35.42 | evert | I checked out the archives and things look good ;) thanks for your help |
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| 22:36.07 | gravity | No problem |
| 22:36.17 | ceeto | Is there a way to change which video mode grub runs in? i.e., can I run it in 80x50? |
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| 22:37.38 | brass | sandy: probably.. let me check |
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| 22:38.48 | marcos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:39.37 | csalad2 | hi all |
| 22:39.40 | mamar | Hi |
| 22:39.46 | csalad2 | valaki magyar van? |
| 22:39.56 | csalad2 | ungarn??? |
| 22:40.08 | hool | is there a special way to insert a cdrom unit into /etc/fstab? |
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| 22:40.46 | csalad2 | mamar! |
| 22:40.53 | csalad2 | do you speak in hungarian? |
| 22:41.06 | DarkAgenT | I wish I could do a remote install ;) |
| 22:41.20 | mamar | Nope sorry |
| 22:41.56 | mamar | I can only speak French and English (hardly) |
| 22:42.00 | metrix | does debian have an installer that uses the 2.6 kernel??? |
| 22:42.03 | csalad2 | english? |
| 22:42.12 | csalad2 | oh great |
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| 22:42.15 | gravity | metrix: Use the linux26 argument when you use it |
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| 22:42.29 | gravity | csalad2: This is an english-only channel |
| 22:42.31 | metrix | AHAH!!! sweet thanks a million gravity |
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| 22:42.36 | gravity | metrix: No problem |
| 22:42.38 | csalad2 | ok |
| 22:42.47 | sobersabre | hello, guys... am I to have any problems to install testing amd64 image on nforce4 system ? |
| 22:42.49 | csalad2 | but i m a hungarian man |
| 22:42.54 | csalad2 | ok |
| 22:43.04 | csalad2 | can you help me guys? |
| 22:43.11 | sobersabre | I mean I checked the errata and found nothing... but maybe there's some other evidence... |
| 22:43.40 | csalad2 | i download the debian netinstall(108mb) i installed,but |
| 22:43.42 | csalad2 | ... |
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| 22:43.54 | csalad2 | the os is not loaded... |
| 22:43.56 | csalad2 | error 15 |
| 22:44.16 | csalad2 | hallo anyone? |
| 22:44.18 | csalad2 | :( |
| 22:44.24 | mamar | I never sucessed to install through netinstall |
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| 22:44.32 | Cyberia | well i did.. |
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| 22:44.45 | csalad2 | ok... |
| 22:44.49 | csalad2 | what must i do? |
| 22:45.00 | Cyberia | mamar : you should try installing sid release ;] |
| 22:45.09 | csalad2 | perhaps the full dvd install? |
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| 22:45.21 | csalad2 | what mean sid release? |
| 22:45.31 | sobersabre | Oh... shhh... does anybody know if the weekly testing images for amd64 have already been fixed ? |
| 22:45.39 | csalad2 | but i haven't dvd-rw |
| 22:45.48 | Cyberia | csalad2 : unstable.. if you have some exotic hardware, you may need that.. ;] |
| 22:45.52 | mamar | I installed sarge through the CD1 then I used the net to install the rest |
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| 22:46.08 | csalad2 | can i install an iso? |
| 22:46.24 | csalad2 | for example under winxp the daemon tools? |
| 22:46.30 | Cyberia | mamar : lucky you.. none of netinstall iso's i've tried detects my network interface ;[ |
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| 23:01.10 | egon_spengler | DarkAgenT: Lindows, obviously LOL |
| 23:01.16 | csalad2 | bbrazil can you help me? |
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| 23:01.23 | DarkAgenT | :/ |
| 23:01.28 | DarkAgenT | Lindows ah |
| 23:01.31 | bbrazil | !ask |
| 23:01.31 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 23:02.33 | DarkAgenT | isn't lindows linspire |
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| 23:02.44 | csalad2 | i have a problem with debian 31r1anetinstall.iso |
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| 23:03.16 | csalad2 | :( |
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| 23:03.42 | csalad2 | .... |
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| 23:04.01 | mamar | csalad2, I suggest you to use the normal install cd 1 then use the net to install the other packages |
| 23:04.29 | mikedub | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:04.36 | csalad2 | but the os. not boot!!!! |
| 23:04.45 | csalad2 | can't boot |
| 23:05.10 | csalad2 | the installation was succesful,but the boot is a problem.... |
| 23:05.25 | csalad2 | what mean the problem:? error 15 |
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| 23:05.38 | csalad2 | anyone? |
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| 23:05.55 | mamar | Ah. well I don't know, do you have some text with the number ? |
| 23:06.02 | bina | is it safe to make the size that /dev/shm is made bigger? |
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| 23:06.32 | Kovecses | hey anyone else having issues installing fglrx on sid with the 686 kernel |
| 23:06.40 | csalad2 | just it was: error 15 |
| 23:06.49 | mamar | With grub ? |
| 23:07.02 | welp | error 15? file not found? |
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| 23:53.46 | manu | '*.emerg * |
| 23:53.46 | bbrazil | manu: I've never gotten one, but I assume thats what caused the wall |
| 23:53.46 | manu | so * means it wont fo to messages |
| 23:54.58 | manu | *go |
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| 23:54.58 | fndude | atax: I must be confused. I compiled the source code for a kernel module. A loadable kernel module. Using sources from the same version kernel. |
| 23:54.58 | bbrazil | manu: no, each line is seperate. have you checked dmesg? |
| 23:54.58 | MDC | How can I make apt-get autpmaticlly answer questions for me? Is the a variable file where I can set all options before I apt-get a package? |
| 23:54.58 | StyXman | ok, ignore courier |
| 23:54.58 | fndude | atax: why would I have to recompile my kernel to install a module? |
| 23:54.59 | azeem | MDC: check out "debconf preseeding" |
| 23:54.59 | atax | what is the module? (sorry for my english) |
| 23:54.59 | azeem | MDC: on google, e.g., or in the installation manual |
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| 23:57.30 | sylvisj | nVidia's installer worked; had to reinstall debian completely for it to do so, though. |
| 23:57.37 | fndude | atax: yes it shows it as present. |
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