| 00:00.06 | stew | michael__: man apt-cdrom, and please move to #ubuntu |
| 00:00.25 | michael__ | i was there, i'm getting jack for help - sorry |
| 00:00.37 | stew | michael__: try a mailing list then |
| 00:00.45 | michael__ | what are those? |
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| 00:01.36 | stew | michael__: http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ |
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| 00:01.42 | jjazz | michael__: Ubuntu has message board support forums too. Try those. |
| 00:01.43 | nkuttler | michael__: or install debian |
| 00:01.52 | pg_ | BeBrA, you have not loaded the good kernel, do a 'cat /proc/pci' and look what adaptater you have |
| 00:02.03 | pg_ | BeBrA, you have not loaded the good kernel module =) sorry |
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| 00:02.17 | michael__ | i might soon, ty for ur help |
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| 00:02.29 | BeBrA | pg_. it's a linksys router running openwrt |
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| 00:03.11 | pg_ | Ah, nice, good luck |
| 00:03.11 | BeBrA | pg_: that's the output http://pastebin.com/498570 |
| 00:03.20 | rezZen | hi. how can i determine the duplex setting and negotiated speed of an ethernet interface, w/out using mii-tools? thanks. |
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| 00:03.51 | pg_ | BeBrA, i look at it, but i don't know much about linksys router |
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| 00:04.00 | BeBrA | ok, tnx |
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| 00:05.04 | pg_ | BeBrA, which kernel you have, do you know which pci id is it? |
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| 00:05.26 | bbrazil | rezZen: ethtool |
| 00:05.31 | quasisane | rezZen: grep eth0 /var/log/dmesg |
| 00:05.44 | BeBrA | pg_: kernel is 2.4.30. let me check pci id |
| 00:05.54 | quasisane | rezZen: change eth0 as appropriate |
| 00:06.25 | pg_ | BeBrA, can't you have a 2.6 one? |
| 00:06.51 | rezZen | bbrazil: quasisane: muchos gracias. |
| 00:07.01 | BeBrA | pg_: no atm. firmware based on 2.6 are not working |
| 00:07.50 | pg_ | BeBrA, with the command 'lspci' and newer kernels, you have nice names and the vendor ID's. |
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| 00:08.09 | pg_ | do you know the vendor of the network device? |
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| 00:08.16 | BeBrA | yes, but I haven't lspci on it :( |
| 00:08.19 | DragonD | hello. Where should i create my own start/stop scripts for system boot? |
| 00:08.26 | rezZen | bbrazil: what deb package provides ethtool? |
| 00:08.30 | pg_ | just the name on the network chip |
| 00:08.43 | rezZen | duh - nevermind (ethtool provides ethtool) |
| 00:08.44 | DragonD | well i don't evan need to create a script i have one all ready. |
| 00:08.44 | eeyore- | rezZen: look at the corresponding LED lights on the port of your hub/switch |
| 00:08.55 | virgomoon | where would I get growisofs? |
| 00:08.59 | pusling | DragonD: in /etc/init.d/ - and with symlinks to /etc/rcX.d |
| 00:09.05 | virgomoon | is it in another package? |
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| 00:09.41 | BeBrA | pg_ I have to check the manual, because it has 2 network interfaces |
| 00:10.08 | pg_ | BeBrA, what is the exact name/model of the linksys box |
| 00:10.26 | BeBrA | pg_ wrt56gs v1 |
| 00:10.30 | BeBrA | sorry |
| 00:10.34 | BeBrA | wrt54gs v1 |
| 00:10.34 | bucky | virgomoon, in dvd+rw-tools in testing |
| 00:10.44 | bucky | !info dvd+rw-tools |
| 00:10.46 | dpkg | dvd+rw-tools: (DVD+-RW/R tools), section utils, is optional. Version: 5.21.4.10.8-4 (sid), Packaged size: 105 kB, Installed size: 332 kB |
| 00:10.55 | virgomoon | bucky, ty |
| 00:10.56 | DragonD | pusling: what are all the k## and s## files? |
| 00:11.39 | pg_ | BeBrA, http://www.linksysinfo.org/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=446 |
| 00:11.44 | delire | BeBrA: i have that router. |
| 00:11.50 | pusling | DragonD: S## are scripts run when entering that runlevel. S01 first and S99 last. K## is when leaving that runlevel. |
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| 00:12.16 | DragonD | ahhhh. |
| 00:12.21 | BeBrA | delire: running OpwnWrt whiterussian? |
| 00:12.36 | delire | BeBrA: it has the annoying habit of spontaneously denying ping requests on the local network. |
| 00:12.56 | delire | BeBrA: no, not as i'm aware. |
| 00:12.56 | BeBrA | delire. can you add static route on vlan1? |
| 00:13.00 | Skrot | Is xlibs-dev still in testing? |
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| 00:13.01 | BeBrA | ok |
| 00:13.12 | jjazz | delire: It needs to be rebooted daily. |
| 00:13.26 | delire | BeBrA: i'm not sure to be honest, i've only just bought it and my needs are simple. |
| 00:13.35 | delire | jjazz: is that correct? |
| 00:13.36 | cheal | !tell Skrot about info xlibs-dev testing |
| 00:13.38 | rezZen | no luck, guys. i'm trying to determine duplex settings for an nFoce nVidia eth controller. no duplex string in dmesg, and it seems query operations with ethtool and mii-tools aren't supported. |
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| 00:13.46 | BeBrA | ok |
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| 00:14.09 | jjazz | delire: In my experience, yes. Otherwise it starts getting buggy with the wireless, esp. with WEP. |
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| 00:14.46 | jjazz | delire: Linksys has sent me three of them, all display weirdness. (And tech support is terrible) Needless to say, I don't buy Linksys anymore. |
| 00:14.47 | eflynn | hello, what's the best way to learn php? |
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| 00:14.58 | jjazz | eflynn: Get the O'Reilly PHP book. |
| 00:15.05 | pg_ | BeBrA, You try to install linux on a still unsupported device, its nice you have succeded to install linux on it |
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| 00:15.26 | smo_ | how can i do to "extract" only the device and bus numbers for a specified hardware with lsusb (Bus 001 Device 010 --> return something like 001/010) is it possible? |
| 00:15.35 | delire | jjazz: interesting.. |
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| 00:15.44 | bbrazil | smo_: sed or awk |
| 00:15.51 | BeBrA | pg_.no, wrt54gs version 1 is well supported. it was one of the first model running OpenWrt |
| 00:16.00 | beaufils | Why when installing Mozilla Firefox my system wide mailcap is not updated ? Mutt always launch Galeon to view HTML (even if I remove galeon), whereas I want Firefox to be used... |
| 00:16.01 | cire | I try to build my own kernel-images, using make-kpkg. I did this very often, without problems. Since a few days, my new built images can't be installed any more. (postinstall script returned error code 128). I just don't know what I am doing wrong. Is this a known problem in unstable at the moment? The system is a fresh installation (new installation was 3 hours ago) |
| 00:16.09 | smo_ | can t you explain a little more? |
| 00:16.23 | pg_ | BeBrA, Ah you have your 'lsmod' available? |
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| 00:16.32 | BeBrA | yes |
| 00:16.38 | cheal | eflynn: #php |
| 00:16.45 | pusling | cire: if it is a known problem, you can read about it in bug-reports ? ;) |
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| 00:17.08 | BeBrA | http://pastebin.com/498586 |
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| 00:17.12 | smo_ | ok for sed |
| 00:17.30 | cire | pusling: sorry. I know using unstable implies to know these things, but: where may Iook for bug-reports? |
| 00:17.47 | benjamindees | !bts |
| 00:17.47 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 00:18.18 | cire | thank you, and the allmighty dpkg ;) |
| 00:18.18 | dpkg | no problem, cire |
| 00:18.29 | pg_ | and 'cat /proc/net/devices' ? |
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| 00:18.50 | cluster | hi, how do I get an old crappy serial mouse working with Xorg ? I've tried /dev/ttyS0 but I get can't open input device :( |
| 00:19.08 | mo1991 | what is a good gui program to search for a specific file ? |
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| 00:19.27 | cluster | cat /dev/ttyS0 or 1 give me no such devices :( |
| 00:19.32 | BeBrA | http://pastebin.com/498590 |
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| 00:19.56 | jair | I know this is maybe a repetitive question, but If I have a debian netinst, in a cd or the business card in a usb drive, how could I choose between install "sarge", "etch" or "sid"? |
| 00:19.57 | benjamindees | cluster, modprobe serial ? |
| 00:20.21 | cluster | benjamindees err not found :( crap don't tell me I didn't include it in my kernel :( |
| 00:20.27 | pusling | jair: look in sources.list and/or the version of libc |
| 00:20.40 | cluster | benjamindees is there a way to know if I've built serial support in my kernel other than menuconfig? |
| 00:20.47 | mo1991 | by search I mean search for a file on the / file system |
| 00:20.58 | pusling | mo1991: can't you just use locate foo in a console_? |
| 00:21.08 | jair | PupenoL, libc? |
| 00:21.09 | benjamindees | cluster, dmesg|grep erial |
| 00:21.13 | pg_ | BeBrA, ah, nice!. its working fine, hardware/kernel mods |
| 00:21.16 | jair | pusling, libc? |
| 00:21.26 | pg_ | BeBrA, and '/sbin/ifconfig' ? |
| 00:21.32 | nkuttler | jair: basically, you don't. install sarge. |
| 00:21.32 | cire | Since this happened in kernel-source-2.6.14 and -15, I don't think the kernel-source may have bugs. It seems to be another problem. Could someone give me an advice where to start searching? |
| 00:21.48 | benjamindees | cluster, or dmesg|grep tty |
| 00:22.02 | pusling | jair: yes. the package libc6 - If I remember correctly, it differs between the versions. |
| 00:22.05 | cluster | benjamindees thanks!! I did try that and got nothing and I've just found out it isn't build in my kernel either :( |
| 00:22.09 | cluster | benjamindees thanks a bunch! |
| 00:22.10 | BeBrA | this is ifconfig: http://pastebin.com/498593 |
| 00:22.12 | mo1991 | pusling - sure I can - but I set my sarge system up on several friends computers as well - who are newby's - and have tried to make easy mouse click menu's for everything - would like this function too |
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| 00:22.37 | pg_ | BeBrA, ah it's easy now |
| 00:22.43 | pusling | mo1991: kde has a 'find files and folders' in the K menu |
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| 00:22.56 | pg_ | BeBrA, you have a fixed IP or a dynamic one? |
| 00:23.02 | BeBrA | dynamic |
| 00:23.05 | cheal | cire: apt-listbugs |
| 00:23.11 | BeBrA | vlan1 is wan port |
| 00:23.16 | pusling | mo1991: and $YOUR_PREFERED_WM probably has something alike. |
| 00:23.24 | pg_ | BeBrA, you have an account login/pw of your isp? |
| 00:23.33 | BeBrA | of course |
| 00:23.42 | mo1991 | pusling - using gnome sarge stock version |
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| 00:23.59 | virgomoon | stew .. if you're still around .. I got that DVD burner up and running .. thanks again for all the help .. I really appreciate it |
| 00:24.09 | quasisane | mo1991: in gnome there is gnome-search-tool |
| 00:24.17 | yanis | packages.debian is down... |
| 00:24.20 | pusling | mo1991: then wait for some gnome-guy coming by ;) in kde, kfind is available, but kde-programs might not look that good in gnome. |
| 00:24.25 | pusling | yanis: really ? |
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| 00:24.28 | yanis | where can I find libqt3c102-mt.deb? |
| 00:24.43 | pusling | yanis: in sarge, I guess. why ? |
| 00:24.44 | pg_ | BeBrA, Ah, i think i see the problem... |
| 00:24.59 | blockd | mo1991: there's also beagle in gnome... I don't use gnome or beagle, so I don't know if it's even normally distributed in Sarge or what. |
| 00:25.02 | virgomoon | Can I use the same stick-on labels on DVDs like I can CDs? I've just never used a DVD burner and didn't know |
| 00:25.15 | yanis | pusling: In fact I have ubuntu. but this lib isnt in the repos. so I need that deb... |
| 00:25.25 | BeBrA | vlan1 is connected to another router, which I use in bridge mode |
| 00:25.32 | pg_ | its like if you have to configure pppd to make a ppoe link on eth0 |
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| 00:25.42 | pusling | yanis: don't mix whatever you are trying to. it will not work. what do you need it for ? |
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| 00:25.52 | benjamindees | ...opera |
| 00:25.59 | mo1991 | hmm - can't seem to find gnome-find or beagle in the stock debian |
| 00:26.02 | delire | it is nice to be able to touch file.foo and watch it immediately pop up in a persistent query of the same name |
| 00:26.03 | pg_ | BeBrA, you have scripts in 'ls /etc/ppp/' ? |
| 00:26.20 | BeBrA | yes, I have |
| 00:26.27 | yanis | pusling: I use an qt that needs libqt3c102-mt I do have libqt3 but it doesnt "sees" it |
| 00:26.33 | pg_ | BeBrA, and '/etc/ppp/[pap,chap]-secrets' ? |
| 00:26.35 | delire | very much a PITA if you don't like to run a Gnome DE (as is my case) |
| 00:26.59 | BeBrA | pg_. yes, chap-secrets |
| 00:27.04 | pusling | yanis: that is because it is binary _incompatiple_ versions of qt - compiled with different gcc'- |
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| 00:27.29 | yanis | pusling: what do you recommend? |
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| 00:27.32 | pg_ | BeBrA, nothing else in /etc/ppp ? |
| 00:27.36 | mo1991 | never mind found some |
| 00:28.08 | BeBrA | http://pastebin.com/498601 |
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| 00:28.17 | pusling | yanis: rebuilding the app you need against newer qt - or downgrade to sarge/hoary/warty |
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| 00:28.28 | jjazz | When I lpr a .dvi, I would like the file to be filtered through dvi2ps automagically before printing. How can I do this? Thanks. |
| 00:28.44 | jjazz | (Do I need to install magicfilter? Ugh.) |
| 00:28.48 | yanis | pusling: the app is deb too!@!! |
| 00:28.57 | benjamindees | stew, just out of curiosity what kernel version do you use on your p133 that skips with AAC? |
| 00:28.58 | pg_ | BeBrA, 'ls /etc/ppp/peers' ? |
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| 00:29.04 | gravity | yanis pusling #ubuntu please |
| 00:29.13 | pg_ | BeBrA, there should be the cnx scripts actually |
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| 00:29.33 | BeBrA | /etc/ppp/peers/sample |
| 00:29.41 | BeBrA | yes, anyway ppp is up and running |
| 00:29.50 | pusling | yanis: what app do you need it for ? |
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| 00:30.42 | pg_ | BeBrA, can you make, a root : 'pppd call sample -updetach' ? |
| 00:30.53 | pg_ | BeBrA, there is a little chance it works |
| 00:31.07 | pusling | yanis: but I guess you should talk to the opera or the skype guys and make them fix their app. |
| 00:31.17 | pg_ | then a '/sbin/ifconfig' again to see if a ppp0 has appeard |
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| 00:31.41 | BeBrA | pg- it's not a problem about ppp. atm i'm connected through linksys router, but I can't add static route to vlan1 interface |
| 00:31.54 | LiNoH | what is better? debian ou ubuntu? |
| 00:32.01 | jair | pusling, nkuttler yes guys but I can not get it, I will put the cd netinst, then I have to do something else to install the libc#??? |
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| 00:32.22 | pusling | LiNoH: asking this question here, what answer do you excpect ? |
| 00:32.26 | gravity | LiNoH: Try them both. See what you like for yourself. |
| 00:32.31 | grendal_prime | ok now im confused as hell |
| 00:32.39 | gravity | LiNoH: i.e. Think for yourself |
| 00:32.47 | grendal_prime | im setting up an email server .....now things have changed since i did this last |
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| 00:33.00 | jjazz | When I lpr a .dvi, I would like the file to be filtered through dvi2ps automagically before printing. How can I do this? Thanks. |
| 00:33.00 | yanis | pusling: museek |
| 00:33.07 | grendal_prime | is there a simple way to get exim to use procmail for sorting? |
| 00:33.20 | jair | pusling, nkuttler it is any manual in the internet where walk me through the installation of etch or sid? |
| 00:33.26 | LiNoH | ubuntu comes better configured.. but i like most debian packages and system.. is debian difficult to configure? |
| 00:33.37 | jjazz | jair: google debian install guide |
| 00:33.37 | emesa | I'm used to fedora - I just plugged a USB 2.0 harddrive to my debian box. Usually in fedora I would type mount /media/usbdisk (where usbdisk is the name of teh drive) what do I type here? |
| 00:33.45 | bucky | hi grendal_prime |
| 00:33.48 | jair | jjazz, thank you |
| 00:33.49 | grendal_prime | because im using fetchmail..and its grabbing the mail and pulling it down..storeing it in /var/spool/mail/username wich is ok..accpet that it never gets deliverd |
| 00:33.56 | jjazz | jair: should be the first hit |
| 00:34.00 | grendal_prime | HEY BUCKY HOW THE HELL ARE YA !!!! |
| 00:34.04 | pusling | yanis: then rebuild it for you current qt version |
| 00:34.06 | grendal_prime | who the hell are you as well |
| 00:34.07 | gravity | emesa: Try mount /media/usb1 |
| 00:34.10 | bucky | grendal_prime, still using pyqt? |
| 00:34.11 | pg_ | BeBrA, Ah sorry, i missed the ppp0 interface =) |
| 00:34.16 | jair | jjazz, googling it ;) |
| 00:34.22 | grendal_prime | pyqt? |
| 00:34.25 | BeBrA | :) |
| 00:34.36 | yanis | ok pusling |
| 00:34.41 | pg_ | BeBrA, what are the vlan interfaces for? |
| 00:34.46 | pg_ | how are yu connected to it? |
| 00:34.49 | bucky | grendal_prime, you know that kde programming in python thing |
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| 00:35.12 | SkArFaCe | whats the name of a file sharing program for like music and videos |
| 00:35.20 | grendal_prime | you know what..i said screw it..im writing everything with php...i mean even werid shit... |
| 00:35.21 | BeBrA | vlan0 is lan side, vlan1 wan side. probably I've solved. i just add an IP to vlan1 |
| 00:35.21 | aeronadix | irc |
| 00:35.29 | pg_ | there are two ethernet interfaces and one is not configured |
| 00:35.41 | grendal_prime | stuff that probably not be programed in php..i dont care im doing it in php and html anway |
| 00:35.50 | grendal_prime | fk it |
| 00:35.51 | NetGrunt | hi there |
| 00:35.54 | bucky | grendal_prime, haha.. php is powerful |
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| 00:36.04 | grendal_prime | but right now..i got this problem with...exim and procmail |
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| 00:36.15 | grendal_prime | whos good with exim |
| 00:36.18 | eeyore- | grendal_prime: instant gratification |
| 00:36.35 | pryzbyj | # lsof |grep home: nothing. umount /home: busy |
| 00:36.37 | pryzbyj | ideas? |
| 00:36.39 | grendal_prime | AND YOU KNOW IT...DO YOU HAVE ANY VASILINE?? |
| 00:36.51 | NetGrunt | Does anybody know how can I know if my NFS shares are mounted via UDP or TCP ? I've read that using UDP may cause data corruption (scary!!) but as far as I know, NFS has been always mainly working under UDP. Any help ? Thanks |
| 00:37.09 | turkey | liable |
| 00:37.14 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: exportfs |
| 00:37.16 | turkey | thats did not work |
| 00:37.23 | pusling | grendal_prime: your keyboard is broken. go buy a new one. |
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| 00:37.32 | pryzbyj | eegore: me? :) |
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| 00:38.10 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: no, i like to say random things |
| 00:38.20 | mfrisch | Hello world |
| 00:38.47 | eeyore- | cout << "hello, world" << endl; |
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| 00:38.55 | pryzbyj | eegore: thought it was in response to the nfs question. |
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| 00:39.10 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: what do you think? |
| 00:39.26 | pryzbyj | i still think it probably has nothing to do with the question i asked |
| 00:39.32 | grendal_prime | pusling, its a laptop...and its working fine.. i need a person who knows the one..or two lines of config for exim. to send mail to procmail for processing. |
| 00:39.33 | pryzbyj | which was unrelated to nfs |
| 00:39.41 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: you asked for ideas |
| 00:39.49 | grendal_prime | ill even marry said persons ugly sister |
| 00:39.53 | cire | As I asked before, I cannot install my kernel images. (postinst script returned errorcode 128). Now, it is impossible to install anything, because the half-installed image cannot be removed. Also, I'd like to solve this problem. Does anyone know why my images can't be installed any more? (sid, linux-source-2.6.14 and -15, building by using make-kpkg) |
| 00:40.08 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: without you telling us how you screwed it up, we had to find plausible reasons |
| 00:40.18 | pryzbyj | it isn't nfs mounted |
| 00:40.28 | pryzbyj | i there are ext3fs errors in dmesg |
| 00:40.42 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: in that case, reboot and cross fingers |
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| 00:40.52 | pryzbyj | can't umount without rebooting? |
| 00:40.52 | grendal_prime | actually i cant marry anyone else anymore..im now married...soooo ill date the persons ugly sister |
| 00:41.07 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: not if kernel has already said something like "journal aborted" |
| 00:41.24 | pryzbyj | Detected aborted journal :/ |
| 00:41.51 | bucky | grendal_prime, http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Mail/procmail-and-exim.html |
| 00:42.08 | eeyore- | cire: edit post-install script, shortcut it to return 0 and go on with other problems, revisit the package later |
| 00:43.36 | cire | eeyore: Okay I'll do so. I think this will work, but the problem, which is on my opinion not a kernel-source problem, may still exist... Thank you anyway. |
| 00:44.18 | grendal_prime | thanks bucky....is your sister available next monday? |
| 00:44.18 | eeyore- | cire: dselect/apt-get should give you sufficient reason why it couldn't install a package. |
| 00:44.31 | eeyore- | cire: "error 128" is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay down the list of things it prints out |
| 00:44.51 | stew | pryzbyj: did you try fuser as well? |
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| 00:45.44 | pryzbyj | stew: just now. nothing is using /home |
| 00:45.49 | Yildirim | grendal_prime way pezevenk :) |
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| 00:46.20 | mo1991 | anyone good at wine here? Wine is saying it can't find some .dll's that are in my native windows directory. Anyone help me point wine to them? |
| 00:46.32 | eeyore- | stew: ext3, aborted journal. kernel confused. |
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| 00:46.45 | eeyore- | stew: not a normal situation. |
| 00:47.08 | ootput | can any of you recommend a livecd that'd be able to restore a lvm2 volume on a raid1 array on a pair of sata disks? |
| 00:47.22 | eeyore- | ootput: gentoo |
| 00:47.34 | cire | eeyore: What do you mean "way down the things"? I am not a native english speaker. Does this mean, it's an error we can ignore? |
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| 00:48.57 | stew | pryzbyj: as a total stab in the dark, maybe: mount -o remount /home |
| 00:49.15 | pryzbyj | stew tried it. kernel confused, won't let me do anything. :/ |
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| 00:50.28 | GregorR | Since packages.debian.org is down, what's the command line way to search for a package by a file it contains? |
| 00:50.34 | gravity | apt-file |
| 00:50.35 | pryzbyj | apt-file |
| 00:50.58 | eeyore- | pryzbyj: i'm gonna nap until you reboot :-) there's no other way |
| 00:51.14 | pryzbyj | i guess. i can't do it until tomorrow though |
| 00:51.16 | pryzbyj | 188 days up :/ |
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| 00:51.47 | stew | that means its a vulnerable kernel which should be replaced anyway :P |
| 00:51.53 | pryzbyj | probably |
| 00:51.58 | pryzbyj | why vulnerable? |
| 00:52.18 | stew | oh, not necessarily, but you know 2.6.8-2 had a fix recently |
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| 00:52.45 | stew | well all the stable kernels that is |
| 00:52.46 | pryzbyj | 2.6.9 ha |
| 00:52.49 | pryzbyj | j/k |
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| 00:54.19 | stew | 9 > 8, it must be better :) |
| 00:54.25 | aeronadix | How can I fix error in make: :1287: error: invalid application of `sizeof' to an incomplete type |
| 00:54.35 | pryzbyj | error in 'make'?! |
| 00:54.50 | pryzbyj | are you hacking make? |
| 00:54.58 | pryzbyj | mb not could be what caused corruption:) |
| 00:55.00 | aeronadix | when I do make to compile a dirver |
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| 00:55.16 | pryzbyj | aeronadix: probably missing a header file inclusion |
| 00:55.23 | aeronadix | not error in make, but make error |
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| 00:55.28 | pryzbyj | right |
| 00:55.33 | stew | aeronadix: i'd guess you need to be using a different version of gcc |
| 00:55.44 | aeronadix | pryzbyj, I have to be a genius to fix this? |
| 00:55.53 | stew | not everything that compiled with gcc3 compiles with gcc4 and vice-versa |
| 00:55.54 | pryzbyj | no .. what structure is being used on that line? |
| 00:56.25 | aeronadix | In function `pwc_video_read |
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| 00:57.08 | ootput | eeyore-: besides gentoo livecd? |
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| 00:58.45 | BrickTop | yop everyone |
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| 00:59.51 | BrickTop | anyone got the nerve to guide a *nix noob at this late hour through some Debian installation issues? |
| 00:59.58 | BrickTop | ^^ |
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| 01:00.16 | pryzbyj | BrickTop: bring it and someone will .. |
| 01:00.45 | ootput | i have the nerve but lack the will power |
| 01:00.55 | Zvpun | when telneting to an unknown service it often happens that I cant quit telnet even Ctrl-C doesnt work anymore. What can I do? |
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| 01:00.59 | BrickTop | lol |
| 01:01.05 | kspath | I presently lack the patience |
| 01:01.07 | pryzbyj | Zvpun: ^} |
| 01:01.11 | pryzbyj | ^] rather |
| 01:01.15 | BrickTop | I procedeed with a minimal install (netinstall) of Debian |
| 01:01.26 | kspath | good choice |
| 01:01.57 | BrickTop | everything wen smooth until I had some DHCP issues and I couldn't connect to teh server to get the extra pkg |
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| 01:02.45 | BrickTop | obviously I was obliged to do some restarts both router and the debian box until I got the network car working again |
| 01:02.48 | Zvpun | pryzbyj: do you mean I should use escape character? |
| 01:03.08 | pryzbyj | yes |
| 01:03.15 | Zvpun | pryzbyj: so I hit ESC and what else? |
| 01:03.15 | pryzbyj | ^] then ^D |
| 01:03.16 | NetGrunt | Does anybody know how do I configure NFS over TCP ? (On the server side) |
| 01:03.16 | NetGrunt | thanks |
| 01:03.19 | BrickTop | I see under the DHCP table of my router that the debian box has been assigned an IP so it si "networked" |
| 01:03.26 | aeronadix | I have the pwc driver built in to my kernel, how do I load it? |
| 01:03.28 | eeyore- | Zvpun: control-] |
| 01:03.29 | pryzbyj | Zvpun: no. control+] then control+D |
| 01:03.34 | eeyore- | Zvpun: then type "quit" |
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| 01:03.51 | eeyore- | NetGrunt: nothing special |
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| 01:04.15 | eeyore- | NetGrunt: rpcinfo -p <foo>, check if you have TCP support for the server side, if you do, tell the client (linux) to mount with "tcp" option |
| 01:04.16 | BrickTop | now since I'm a command line noob, any1 can point me to some docs so I can find the right command to get the missing packages? |
| 01:04.25 | Zvpun | eeyore-, pryzbyj: thanks |
| 01:04.34 | NetGrunt | eeyore-, I don't, that's why i'm asking. Do I have to compile support for it on the kernel ? |
| 01:04.40 | eeyore- | NetGrunt: yes |
| 01:04.44 | pryzbyj | BrickTop: what packages, do you know? |
| 01:04.51 | NetGrunt | oh fuck, ok |
| 01:04.54 | NetGrunt | thanks dude |
| 01:05.01 | eeyore- | NetGrunt: but that should have been standard with debian kernels |
| 01:05.13 | BrickTop | not much what I really need is to get the GUI first |
| 01:05.19 | BrickTop | yso i suppose gnome |
| 01:05.26 | eeyore- | CONFIG_NFSD_TCP=y |
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| 01:06.46 | pryzbyj | thanks, eeyore- |
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| 01:07.25 | NetGrunt | eeyore-, maybe, I'm using a vanilla one recompiled by me. If I tell users we need a reboot they cut my neck down |
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| 01:07.59 | NetGrunt | you know what I mean |
| 01:08.02 | ootput | from less to stub to more of a stub? |
| 01:08.09 | ootput | less of * |
| 01:08.27 | eeyore- | NetGrunt: not really, my users listen to me |
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| 01:09.46 | Slurpee` | soooo |
| 01:09.54 | Slurpee` | i am still having the worse time installing my video card ever |
| 01:10.28 | aeronadix | How do load drivers, /usr/src/linux-2.6.14.5/drivers/usb/media/pwc |
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| 01:12.02 | mexican | I have a problem with ubuntu |
| 01:12.04 | mexican | my wifi is conceptronic C22I |
| 01:12.07 | karsten | !ubuntu |
| 01:12.07 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 01:12.24 | mexican | I see you ;-) |
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| 01:13.44 | bucky | !seen grumpydog |
| 01:13.44 | dpkg | grumpydog <n=finch@unaffiliated/grumpydog> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 12d 7h 13m 5s ago, saying: 'wow we are getting a little floodness here, try and speak to the person helping you in private message'. |
| 01:13.49 | BrickTop | guys anyone can give me a hand in here for my issue? How do I go to this step (look at the pic here http://shots.osdir.com/slideshows/slideshow.php?release=395&slide=22) from the prompts. What's the command |
| 01:14.10 | BrickTop | I'm stuck at su |
| 01:14.11 | karsten | Anyone care to explain what 'test -a' is supposed to do, and why the following results as it does? 'test -a /bin/bash && echo yep || echo nope; test ! -a /bin/bash && echo yep || echo nope' |
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| 01:14.47 | Zenethian | test -a makes sure both expressions are true |
| 01:14.52 | karsten | Zenethian: Howso? |
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| 01:15.14 | Zenethian | I'm just reading the manpage. :) |
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| 01:15.17 | karsten | Zenethian: ... it's true if the file exists, but if the file doesn't exist? |
| 01:15.27 | Zenethian | then it's false? |
| 01:15.31 | karsten | Zenethian: s/-a/-f/ and retry. |
| 01:15.45 | Zenethian | heh |
| 01:15.51 | karsten | Zenethian: You'll get "yep" in both cases for '-a', "yep" and "nope" for '-f'. |
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| 01:15.58 | TraceGreen | Hello, does anyone use idesk? |
| 01:16.08 | karsten | !tell TraceGreen about polls |
| 01:16.08 | mo1991 | anyone know where to find an update .deb of wine? or at least newer? |
| 01:16.10 | karsten | TraceGreen: Just ask. |
| 01:16.13 | mo1991 | than sarge |
| 01:16.26 | vinay | i have a dual-display setup (nvidia twinview).. suddenly tvtime, xawtv, mplayer, etc, if maximized dont stay on 1 monitor.. they maximize on BOTH .. centering on the split!.. thoughts? |
| 01:16.39 | karsten | mo1991: aptitude update && aptitude install wine. Or check http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 01:16.47 | KILL_ILL | can anyone help me find a web site to know if my network card will be supported on debian ??? im eager to leave windows behind me =D |
| 01:16.59 | TraceGreen | ok, i find idesk have "startup notification" option, but how can i set startup notification? |
| 01:17.06 | karsten | Zenethian: We were discussing this at the office, '-a' is apparently a Kornism. |
| 01:17.07 | mo1991 | karsten - I meant a newer package that the stable one? |
| 01:17.10 | karsten | KILL_ILL: http://www.google.com/ |
| 01:17.14 | Zenethian | interesting |
| 01:17.17 | karsten | mo1991: Should be in unstable. |
| 01:17.26 | mo1991 | k i'll check thx |
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| 01:17.38 | karsten | KILL_ILL: Or as a general test, boot Knoppix and see if it works. |
| 01:17.49 | TraceGreen | eventhough i tried "--enable-libsn" when configure, i don't see any notification when startup |
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| 01:18.05 | BrickTop | nevermind I found the damn command "apt-setup" |
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| 01:18.36 | BrickTop | but still every ftp I try is refussing connexion |
| 01:18.43 | karsten | mo1991: I'm seeing 0.9.1-1 in testing/unstable. |
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| 01:19.06 | mutilator | hey all |
| 01:19.22 | BrickTop | can't explain if it is a network issue coz I see the debian box has been assigned an IP |
| 01:19.34 | karsten | BrickTop: No TCP/IP? No DNS? Active/Passive? <ctrl><alt><F2> will get you a shell. |
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| 01:19.37 | mutilator | anyone know how to get authvchkpw module to use with courier-imap |
| 01:19.46 | mutilator | the debian src doesn't have it compiled in |
| 01:19.46 | karsten | BrickTop: ... and you've got a few utilities. Try troubleshooting. |
| 01:19.57 | BrickTop | karsten: I'm in the shell |
| 01:19.58 | mutilator | and i was wondering if there was a way w/o downloading the source |
| 01:20.25 | BrickTop | if I see the DHCP table of my router there is an IP assigned to the debian box |
| 01:20.26 | karsten | BrickTop: 'host <site>'. 'ping <site>'. 'ftp <site>'. |
| 01:20.41 | BrickTop | ouch right ^^ |
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| 01:21.15 | mo1991 | karsten - no back port of a more current wine anywhere? It needs a lot of dependancies from unstable which I don't like to install |
| 01:21.18 | SkArFaCe | which is the lastest debian |
| 01:21.20 | benjamindees | I know I'm going to get a gentoosmite for this, but how can I use dpkg-buildpackage to rebuild a .deb with march=i586 ? |
| 01:21.29 | karsten | !tell mo1991 about backports |
| 01:21.40 | karsten | mo1991: Don't mix Debian releases. |
| 01:21.53 | ke6isf | benjamindees: Why would yo uget a gentoosmite for that? |
| 01:22.21 | mo1991 | karsten - ya, that's killed me before. Besides I like sarge |
| 01:22.32 | sylvisj | Hmm |
| 01:22.45 | sylvisj | I just installed atanks and bzflag but don't know how to start them. Anyone know how I would? |
| 01:22.55 | karsten | mo1991: No problem w/ using sarge, just don't mix levels. |
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| 01:23.07 | karsten | sylvisj: RTFM |
| 01:23.12 | stew | benjamindees: /msg dpkg debian/rules ; /msg dpkg source |
| 01:23.23 | orchid | sylvisj: type bzflag on the command line |
| 01:23.32 | sylvisj | Command not found |
| 01:23.40 | orchid | sylvisj: it's also in the debian>games menu |
| 01:23.44 | mutilator | guess not |
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| 01:23.57 | karsten | sylvisj: dpkg -L bzflag |
| 01:24.03 | Suki` | anyway to get sata drives to work? |
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| 01:24.13 | orchid | sylvisj: you didn't get bzflag-server by mistake? |
| 01:24.16 | karsten | sylvisj: Likely under /usr/games |
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| 01:25.33 | karsten | sylvisj: Looks like that's it. Read the package docs (/usr/share/doc/<package>) as well for more info. |
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| 01:28.03 | benjamindees | okay so perhaps I've done it correctly; is there a way to tell whether the object files I made are 586 optimized or not? |
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| 01:28.20 | Suki` | anyone know if theres a way to get sata drives to work? |
| 01:28.28 | grendal_prime | this is absolutly crazy |
| 01:28.43 | mo1991 | can anyone help me backport a new version of wine for sarge - nothing at backports.org |
| 01:29.03 | grendal_prime | there is a file in the config..for this. but i cant figure out how the hell to enable it |
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| 01:29.25 | grendal_prime | exim...everyone always talks about how great its documented..but the documentation sucks ass |
| 01:30.14 | benjamindees | okay nevermind I can time decoding something I guess |
| 01:30.27 | mo1991 | simple sid backport |
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| 01:31.42 | delire | hmm, shorewall 3.0 is v'nice |
| 01:31.55 | delire | config layout much more sensible. |
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| 01:32.19 | caphuso | grendal_prime: debian exim packages will automatically use procmail if you have a ~/.procmailrc |
| 01:33.19 | nkuttler | _ |
| 01:33.54 | bipolar | is there a way to move a task to screen? I started something in a ssh sesson on my server and don't want to stop it while I drive home. |
| 01:33.58 | KILL_ILL | ok wich debian is best for a an intel pentium 3 ?? |
| 01:34.12 | gravity | KILL_ILL: 3.1 |
| 01:34.13 | sylvisj | The one that makes you buy a new AMD cpu. |
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| 01:34.26 | delire | grendal_prime: i agree the exim documentation needs a "quick setup guide". 'eximconfig' is also worded arcanely IMO. |
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| 01:34.50 | KILL_ILL | ok |
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| 01:35.12 | sync350 | Ok, question...I have a old, (very old) G4 running OS 8.6. I'm downloading Debian right now onto a CD to use with the old system. Do I have to manually partion the hard drive for it? How do I do this? |
| 01:35.18 | KILL_ILL | Oo 3.1 and afther that i have alpha ..... and the list goes on |
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| 01:35.43 | delire | sync350: you might want to visit #debianppc (IIRC) |
| 01:36.00 | nkuttler | sync350: the install manual should explain everything |
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| 01:36.09 | sync350 | alright thanks |
| 01:36.20 | smacnay | does the current modconf/modprobe/modules.d etc system in Debian testing actually read files in /etc/modprobe.d? I which to add module options in this directory but they seem to be ignored. |
| 01:36.34 | benjamindees | well amazingly enough the i386 one is faster than i586, at least on this athlon :( |
| 01:36.43 | pawdro | how to install the latest firefox for etch? |
| 01:36.47 | smacnay | which=wish |
| 01:36.51 | pawdro | the latest firefox in etch |
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| 01:36.52 | pawdro | ? |
| 01:37.03 | zu22 | greets |
| 01:37.09 | delire | sync350: i suggest this as the are old-hands to such questions. |
| 01:37.19 | smacnay | pawdro: I was correcting my earlier question |
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| 01:37.43 | nkuttler | pawdro: apt-get update && apt-get -u dist-upgrade |
| 01:37.47 | sync350 | delire: alright I'll check it out |
| 01:38.34 | mo1991 | karsten - when I try the apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename command it says Build-dependencies for wine could not be satisfied |
| 01:38.37 | pawdro | nkuttler: ive got the lataest dist-upgrade, but i want from repos firefox 1.5 |
| 01:38.59 | TraceGreen | hello, if i want to ask some questions about X, which channel should i join? thanks! |
| 01:38.59 | cheal | pawdro: you'd install unstable's firefox package |
| 01:39.23 | benjamindees | mo1991, where did you get the wine source .deb? |
| 01:39.26 | pawdro | ok ill do it |
| 01:39.27 | cheal | TraceGreen: maybe #xorg |
| 01:39.28 | mo1991 | how do I fix this? Do I need to add unstable to my apt.conf file so that it can download the package -dev packages |
| 01:39.37 | mo1991 | benjamindees - from unstable |
| 01:40.02 | mo1991 | it seems to need to update some -dev packages and install some I dont' have |
| 01:40.15 | benjamindees | mo1991, try editing wine/debian/control and change the build dependencies |
| 01:40.31 | karsten | mo1991: Sorry, got busy, try to resolve yourself or on channel. |
| 01:40.56 | benjamindees | mo1991, change the versions to ones included in sarge and see if it builds |
| 01:41.02 | vasile | I would like lpr to do dvips when I lpr things to a network printer that isn't smart enough to do it for me. Is magicfilter the right tool to use? Thanks. |
| 01:41.42 | aeronadix | I need help figureing out what /dev is my webcam |
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| 01:42.01 | mo1991 | karsten - to build this backport it needs several packages to be updated to later than sarge packages - most appear to be -dev packages - should I do this - as we just discussed not mixing stable/testing etc. |
| 01:42.11 | bobby | any one here played with viafb much? I'm trying to get this graphics driver running |
| 01:42.42 | karsten | mo1991: Hopefully more backports. |
| 01:42.54 | karsten | mo1991: ... Personally, I run testing/unstable, I'm not the best person to ask. |
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| 01:43.03 | benjamindees | mo1991, you don't really need those versions; I've built wine 0.9.4 on sarge |
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| 01:43.52 | mo1991 | benjamindees - can you help me - how do I edit the wine/debian/control |
| 01:44.11 | mo1991 | or upload your wine to backports.org? |
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| 01:44.34 | mo1991 | actually I really want to figure out how to backport stuff - need a newer mozilla too |
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| 01:44.57 | benjamindees | mo1991, it's pretty simple; mine is from winehq sources though, not a backport |
| 01:46.11 | benjamindees | mo1991, there's a line 'Build-Depends' in control, remove the conflicting version numbers from there or change them to the versions that are in Sarge... |
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| 01:46.25 | neofutur | hi all |
| 01:46.29 | foka | Hello! Just wondering, is there an IRC channel for the DCC Common Core Alliance? :-) |
| 01:46.31 | neofutur | I just installed testing |
| 01:46.36 | neofutur | and have a pb with tail : |
| 01:46.38 | neofutur | kiron:~# tail -f /var/log/syslog |
| 01:46.38 | neofutur | tail: error reading `/var/log/syslog': Input/output error |
| 01:46.38 | neofutur | tail: tail.c:836: recheck: Assertion `valid_file_spec (f)' failed. |
| 01:46.38 | neofutur | Aborted |
| 01:46.57 | Guerin | !i/o error |
| 01:46.58 | dpkg | [i/o error] if you get i/o errors chances are your medium is bad. Replace your drives or disks, preferably before they eat all your data. |
| 01:47.01 | neofutur | could this be anything else that a bug in testing tail ? |
| 01:47.26 | gravity | More like what dpkg just said |
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| 01:47.37 | Guerin | it's not an error in tail - tail completed its run and exited with a legitimate error message |
| 01:47.40 | gravity | tail is more solid than hardware these days |
| 01:47.44 | neofutur | ok |
| 01:48.06 | mo1991 | benjamindees - not sure what you mean by in control? Where is the control file? |
| 01:48.41 | karsten | neofutur: Might verify with a 'dmesg' check. |
| 01:48.50 | mo1991 | in the source folder? |
| 01:49.09 | neofutur | and for : |
| 01:49.12 | neofutur | Setting up alsa-base (1.0.10-3) ... |
| 01:49.12 | neofutur | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/net/wireless/orinoco.o |
| 01:49.15 | neofutur | an idea ? |
| 01:49.17 | neofutur | depmod: *** Unresolved symbols in /lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/fs/xfs/xfs.o |
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| 01:49.30 | neofutur | I cant have sound working although discover find my soundcard |
| 01:49.52 | cheal | debhelper: wake up! |
| 01:49.53 | stew | mo1991: all the debian related stuff is in the debian folder |
| 01:49.57 | neofutur | ( same thing if i run depmod -a myself ) |
| 01:50.12 | mo1991 | stew - in /usr/src correct? |
| 01:50.21 | mo1991 | /usr/src/appname i mean |
| 01:51.01 | boxy | hey for a net / floppy install what which images do i need root boot and netdrivers? |
| 01:51.42 | stew | mo1991: if you ran "apt-get source appname" from /usr/src, then it would be /usr/src/appname-version/debian |
| 01:51.57 | DragonD | ok when the K/S rc scripts run does it pass start/stop args to it? |
| 01:52.46 | stew | DragonD: yes |
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| 01:54.00 | centrx | boxy, yes, and possibly the driver- file for some special hardware you might have |
| 01:54.09 | Guerin | DragonD: if it's a K script it passes stop; if it's S it passes start |
| 01:54.09 | boxy | thanks centrx |
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| 01:54.34 | boxy | I've not even had ubuntu on here for a day and i'm already fed up with it heh |
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| 01:55.14 | neofutur | I need something like |
| 01:55.16 | neofutur | alias snd-0 snd-emu10k1 |
| 01:55.20 | DragonD | ok, how does it shutdown? i mean i only have S for cron but no K. |
| 01:55.22 | stew | boxy: /msg dpkg netinst ; /msg dpkg ig |
| 01:55.25 | Suki` | Is there any way to get SATA Drives to work with Debian? |
| 01:55.33 | dvs | neofutur: alias snd-card-0 snd-emu10k1 |
| 01:55.47 | Suki` | They seem to work for ubuntu. But ubuntu as a server isn't very fun for me. |
| 01:56.05 | benjamindees | !vague |
| 01:56.06 | dpkg | Hi, I've got a problem but I'm not going to explain it to you in a coherent way. I'm also going to annoy you by using contractions like "ur" and "ne", furthermore I'm going to make up my own abbreviations of technical phrases and terms |
| 01:56.19 | seeds | i got debian using sata hard drives |
| 01:56.22 | vinay | i have a dual-display setup (nvidia twinview).. suddenly tvtime, xawtv, mplayer, etc, if maximized dont stay on 1 monitor.. they maximize on BOTH .. centering on the split!.. thoughts? |
| 01:56.24 | stew | Suki`: yes, they work in debian? what are you trying to do? install debian? |
| 01:56.33 | Suki` | stew, yes. |
| 01:56.33 | benjamindees | Suki`, do you know your SATA chipset? |
| 01:56.38 | Suki` | ugh |
| 01:56.43 | Suki` | its a seagate 80gb |
| 01:56.47 | Suki` | not really sure about much more |
| 01:56.51 | stew | Suki`: have you tried the 2.6 kernel on the installer? |
| 01:56.59 | Suki` | not yet |
| 01:57.05 | boxy | stew whats that for? |
| 01:57.11 | Suki` | I'll go put in the CD and try it. |
| 01:57.13 | neofutur | dvs: thanks |
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| 01:57.30 | stew | Suki`: type "linux26" at the boot: prompt |
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| 01:58.33 | stew | boxy: which? |
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| 01:59.14 | boxy | stew boxy: /msg dpkg netinst ; /msg dpkg ig |
| 01:59.22 | stew | !tell boxy about netinst |
| 01:59.25 | stew | !tell boxy about ig |
| 01:59.30 | _Sam-- | is there something that would probe the hardware before starting X and identify the video card and configure X? im having problems making my X portable |
| 01:59.49 | boxy | oh okay |
| 01:59.59 | gravity | "making my X portable"? |
| 02:00.07 | _Sam-- | yeah i have a compact flash version of something im working on |
| 02:00.12 | _Sam-- | and if i take it from machine a to machine b... |
| 02:00.12 | gravity | _Sam--: aptitude install discover read-edid mdetect |
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| 02:00.17 | _Sam-- | i have to reconfigure the X |
| 02:00.21 | gravity | _Sam--: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 02:00.25 | benjamindees | _Sam--, use the vesa driver? |
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| 02:00.38 | gravity | _Sam--: Those programs will help the server config script figure out what your hardware is |
| 02:00.41 | boxy | stew i dont have any blank cd's though ;) |
| 02:00.45 | gravity | As for making it portable, good luck! |
| 02:00.50 | stew | boxy: /msg dpkg sarge floppies |
| 02:00.53 | _Sam-- | thank you all |
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| 02:01.15 | boxy | yeah i already got that ;) |
| 02:01.17 | boxy | thanks though |
| 02:01.24 | _Sam-- | there is no simple command line from the console to make it probe video hardware and config X? |
| 02:01.34 | _Sam-- | and then i could just run it at boot time or something? |
| 02:01.39 | gravity | _Sam--: xf86config I guess |
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| 02:01.45 | gravity | _Sam--: Not really in sarge. In etch there will be |
| 02:01.50 | stew | yikes |
| 02:02.04 | gravity | _Sam--: Maybe you want knoppix or something instead? |
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| 02:02.30 | liable | Pegger: /j #flood |
| 02:02.35 | kyncani | _Sam--: X --configure ? |
| 02:02.39 | _Sam-- | not really ...too bulky to fit compact flash card |
| 02:02.40 | liable | Pegger: sorry |
| 02:02.43 | neofutur | kiron:~# alsaconf |
| 02:02.43 | neofutur | modinfo: snd: no module by that name found |
| 02:02.46 | _Sam-- | i tried to strip knoppix was easier to make my own |
| 02:02.52 | neofutur | ;( |
| 02:02.55 | Pegger | liable, i just joined how could i possibly flood |
| 02:02.57 | _Sam-- | X --configure...will have to learn that |
| 02:03.03 | centrx | ok, so should i play party poker and make millions of dollars or read this book and make millions of theories |
| 02:03.06 | liable | Pegger: misfire |
| 02:03.07 | dvs | neofutur: What does "uname -r" say? |
| 02:03.24 | benjamindees | _Sam--, morphix is good for that too |
| 02:03.38 | _Sam-- | yeah i have tried them all. |
| 02:03.44 | _Sam-- | for my needs, i had to roll my own |
| 02:03.44 | xlotlu | is there any way to have apt-get not cache .debs? |
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| 02:04.09 | _Sam-- | in order mount /var as a ramdisk on boot, an initrd.img is required? |
| 02:04.11 | neofutur | kiron:/etc# uname -r |
| 02:04.11 | neofutur | 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 02:04.13 | dvs | neofutur: apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r) |
| 02:04.16 | neofutur | fresh testing install |
| 02:04.21 | boxy | speaking of which is it possible since im doing a netinstall to go ahead and install sid? |
| 02:04.31 | centrx | xlotlu, yes |
| 02:04.44 | neofutur | kiron:/etc# apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 02:04.47 | neofutur | thank you dvs |
| 02:04.51 | _Sam-- | there would be no way to do it with shell scripts after stuff gets going? |
| 02:04.52 | neofutur | you really help me ;) |
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| 02:04.54 | dvs | neofutur: testing? |
| 02:05.07 | centrx | xlotlu, do you have a file at /etc/apt/apt.conf ? |
| 02:05.14 | _Sam-- | im just confused how you load something into tmpfs / ramdisk at booting |
| 02:05.32 | xlotlu | centrx: yeah, i'm a bit familiar w/ it, read the manual too, just can't figure it out |
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| 02:05.33 | neofutur | alsaconf now ok but |
| 02:05.34 | neofutur | kiron:/etc# alsaconf |
| 02:05.34 | neofutur | Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-page-alloc (failed: modules still loaded: snd-page-alloc). |
| 02:05.37 | neofutur | i'll reboot |
| 02:06.01 | neofutur | yes I chose testing in netinst choice |
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| 02:06.19 | centrx | xlotlu, oh wait what i was going to say only works for dselect |
| 02:06.20 | neofutur | good |
| 02:06.24 | neofutur | alsaconf worked |
| 02:06.34 | mkrenz | I'm writing an ssh document and I don't have Debian installed anywhere right now. Can someone tell me if ssh-agent starts automatically when you login to X from gdm? |
| 02:06.40 | neofutur | but a pb happened with install config . . . |
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| 02:06.43 | resiak | mkrenz: by default, yes |
| 02:06.51 | mkrenz | resiak: thank you |
| 02:06.56 | xlotlu | centrx: yeah, i saw that, that's what buggers me, and didn't manage to do it with an empty Dir::Cache {archives .. } |
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| 02:07.23 | mo1991 | does anyone know a fix for the firefox printing problems? I just installed 1.5 and it has the same problem printing only half of the page |
| 02:07.27 | stew | mkrenz: it is started by a script in /etc/X11/Xsession.d by default |
| 02:07.35 | resiak | mo1991: have you checked the BTS? |
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| 02:09.29 | centrx | xlotlu, maybe it's at the config for whatever frontend you do use? |
| 02:09.50 | xlotlu | centrx: no frontend |
| 02:09.57 | neofutur | dvs: thanks sound working now |
| 02:10.06 | dvs | neofutur: you're welcome |
| 02:10.21 | dvs | neofutur: you just have to put all the "snd_" modules in the /etc/modules file |
| 02:10.32 | dvs | neofutur: the ones listed by lsmod |
| 02:11.29 | liable | actually just one should do, the rest should get pulled in from deps. |
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| 02:11.55 | neofutur | ok |
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| 02:12.45 | TraceGreen | Hello, does anybody know how to set "startup notification"? |
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| 02:13.02 | centrx | xlotlu, i'm looking through the /usr/share/doc/apt/configure-index.gz |
| 02:13.31 | juice` | hello, when i try to make apt-get update i get this: 'There are no public key available for the following key IDs:' |
| 02:13.43 | liable | juice`: /topic |
| 02:13.54 | dvs | !topicsmite juice` |
| 02:13.54 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon juice`. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 02:13.59 | juice` | oh |
| 02:14.09 | juice` | well, i was shocked that it wasnt in google anywhere |
| 02:14.12 | xlotlu | centrx: been there, will just try and set all Dir::Cache stuff to empty as a last resort |
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| 02:14.18 | juice` | i guess its new :) thanks |
| 02:14.24 | centrx | xlotlu, :) :( oh well |
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| 02:15.01 | xlotlu | centrx: nope, not working |
| 02:16.27 | xlotlu | will just set a cron job to do hourly clean ... or if getting really annoyed could write a script to replace apt-get and always do clean after install/(dist)upgrade |
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| 02:16.57 | dvs | yay! |
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| 02:18.50 | benjamindees | anybody have a P1 they want to give me ssh access to fart around on? |
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| 02:19.05 | xlotlu | anyway, want to make a firewall / gateway out of an old k6 box, 32MB ram and 1G hdd... think it's a smart move? it has broadband on one side, ~ 15 local clients and a small dmz |
| 02:20.12 | skon | xlotlu, 32mb ram is very low to be able to filter out ips and stuff at a broadband rate...it might even slow down your internet |
| 02:20.14 | abrotman | benjamindees: sorry .. only HPC clusters |
| 02:20.20 | abrotman | i think 32MB is fine |
| 02:20.26 | abrotman | i've seen firewalls with 8MB |
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| 02:20.34 | skon | benjamindees: i can give you one |
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| 02:20.48 | benjamindees | xlotlu, with more ram I'd say find a live cd firewall but that'll work |
| 02:20.51 | xam | xlotlu: the specs should be okay |
| 02:20.52 | Travis_ | I have a main ext3 / and a /home partition how can I merge them as one? |
| 02:21.02 | Travis_ | so instead of hda1 and hda2 just have hda1 |
| 02:21.02 | jbroome | i think our sparc FWs have btw 16 and 32 mb ram |
| 02:21.16 | benjamindees | skon, a login? |
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| 02:21.30 | Sonny | hi guys, I'm creating my partitions to install debian, I'm using LVM, what about the swap partition? should it be ext3 or could be inside the LVM? |
| 02:21.30 | skon | benjamindees, go to pm |
| 02:21.36 | jbroome | 16 mb ram, yup |
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| 02:21.54 | Guerin | !shell access |
| 02:21.54 | dpkg | DON'T be a moron. Offering shell access to random people you meet on IRC is the WORST thing you can do for your box's health. Yes, even if they offer to help you or fix something. Before sharing shell access, ask yourself this: Will I be able to go over to this person and stab them in the face with a spork? If not, you probably do not want to give them access. |
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| 02:22.17 | liable | spork? |
| 02:22.23 | xlotlu | so if it all starts getting laggy, sticking in some more ram should work and i won't need to set up a new one |
| 02:22.31 | Guerin | liable: spoon/fork |
| 02:22.34 | Travis_ | so instead of hda1 and hda2 just have hda1 |
| 02:22.38 | skon | its bastilled up |
| 02:22.45 | liable | hybrid :) |
| 02:22.55 | abrotman | liable: taco bell uses sporks :) |
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| 02:23.03 | xam | liable: a spoon that is as pointy as a fork perhaps? ;) |
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| 02:23.28 | mboso | anyone know what the transparent stat info things are called on this page http://www.kde-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=27500&file1=27500-1.png&file2=27500-2.png&file3=27500-3.png&name=decodesk |
| 02:23.33 | liable | man, i've been out bush for to long. |
| 02:23.42 | Guerin | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spork |
| 02:24.02 | abrotman | liable: how are the sheep? |
| 02:24.16 | dvs | o_O |
| 02:24.32 | abrotman | mboso: ask #kde or #debian-kde ... |
| 02:24.37 | liable | abrotman: we only got cows and wallabies here.. |
| 02:24.45 | Guerin | heh |
| 02:24.58 | mboso | abrotman: k |
| 02:25.06 | kspath | !ewe |
| 02:25.07 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
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| 02:25.16 | abrotman | liable: no crocs ? |
| 02:25.16 | Guerin | what's the australian equivalent of a redneck? |
| 02:25.24 | zu22 | guerin: you got a website? |
| 02:25.25 | sylvisj | Aborigine? |
| 02:25.32 | liable | abrotman: yeah, but they arent much fun to cuddle. |
| 02:25.38 | Guerin | zu22: several |
| 02:25.39 | sylvisj | Cows are? |
| 02:25.40 | xam | liable: do they interbreed? a cowallaby perhaps? |
| 02:25.40 | abrotman | liable: and the blow jobs suck ... |
| 02:25.41 | Sonny | Hi, can somebody tell me if my swap should be in LVM or outside LVM? |
| 02:25.48 | sylvisj | LOL |
| 02:25.50 | zu22 | guerin: anything with linuxy/debiany stuff i can see? :) |
| 02:26.04 | Guerin | zu22: nope. I'm too lazy to document everything I do. |
| 02:26.05 | abrotman | Sonny: that's up to you .. it really doesn't matter .. if you put it in LVM .. you'd be able to change the size(up to 2GB) later |
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| 02:26.15 | abrotman | err 2GB for a single partition for swap |
| 02:26.19 | zu22 | guerin: i hear that |
| 02:26.25 | liable | Guerin: there still called rednecks |
| 02:26.34 | abrotman | they're |
| 02:26.40 | Guerin | liable: ah, nice. I recall queensland having lots o' them as well. |
| 02:26.45 | abrotman | wait .. liable is australian .. he should know better :) |
| 02:26.51 | liable | Guerin: yep, a shitload |
| 02:26.52 | Sonny | abrotman: thanks, but its very weird a 2Gb for a swap right? |
| 02:26.52 | DragonD | so in order to start ts on boot and kill it on shutdown i need S99ts in rc2.d and K99ts in rc6.d right? |
| 02:27.07 | abrotman | Sonny: huh? |
| 02:27.17 | abrotman | Sonny: i've made machines with 4GB swap |
| 02:27.33 | liable | abrotman: i deliberatley miss apostrophies and the like, mainly because i know it annoys quite a few of you :) |
| 02:27.38 | Sonny | abrotman: maybe servers... but my home PC? |
| 02:27.47 | abrotman | Sonny: depends how much RAM you have |
| 02:27.50 | arcskon | Sonny, should be about double your ram |
| 02:27.56 | Guerin | Sonny: servers don't need swap as much as desktops |
| 02:28.03 | abrotman | arcskon: depends how much RAM you have |
| 02:28.11 | Guerin | if servers ever dip into swap they need more ram |
| 02:28.23 | Sonny | Well I have 1Gb of RAM, so I use 512Mb for swap |
| 02:28.25 | ke6isf | arcskon: Well, if you have like 1GB, unless you're doing some high power stuff, you won't need 2GB swap. |
| 02:28.36 | abrotman | Sonny: i'd use 1GB for swap .. but it's your call |
| 02:28.37 | arcskon | ke6isf, oh, okay |
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| 02:28.47 | Guerin | Sonny: that'll probably be enough, but disk space is cheap. |
| 02:28.57 | Sonny | abrotman: Thanks man |
| 02:29.12 | abrotman | Sonny: unless you're doing like 3d modelling .. then i might go higher |
| 02:29.29 | abrotman | Sonny: but if it's basic computer geek use .. you should be more than fine with 1GB swap |
| 02:29.46 | abrotman | (of course .. if i were doing 3d modelling .. i'd probably have more than 1GB RAM) |
| 02:29.49 | Sonny | If I decide to puto swap into LVM, how does my system will know that is a swap partition? I set i up after the installation? |
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| 02:30.05 | Guerin | when my laptop batteries get here, I'm going to have fun figuring out how suspend and so on work |
| 02:30.11 | zu22 | hmm either the sensor is damaged or my p3/750MHz cpu has been running at 93 C for several months now |
| 02:30.18 | liable | why not just use a swap file? |
| 02:30.21 | Guerin | and how to minimise boot times and power draw |
| 02:30.25 | zu22 | (laptop) |
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| 02:30.54 | Guerin | zu22: the former, since running it at 93°C for even a few minutes should damage it |
| 02:31.01 | liable | zu22: does it feel hot? hot air coming out the fan vents? |
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| 02:31.51 | zu22 | guerin: ah ok :) |
| 02:32.23 | zu22 | liable: it doesn't seem hotter than usual, the exhaust fan probably needs replaced though, makes very nasty noises |
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| 02:33.08 | Guerin | that's such an interesting bit o' grammar |
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| 02:33.28 | zu22 | heh |
| 02:33.54 | mo1991 | having trouble changing the build- depends section in the source code for wine. ANyone help me trying to backport new wine version to sarge |
| 02:34.18 | Guerin | mo1991: they might be there because they're required |
| 02:34.42 | Guerin | mo1991: suggest you install the closest match in sarge, and try to build |
| 02:35.39 | Guerin | mo1991: i've struck several things which simply cannot be backported without backporting a ton of libs, or patching the code quite heavily |
| 02:35.43 | zu22 | sometimes i have to use Windows so i SSH into my linux account (user account, i am not root on that box) and i'd like to run xemacs or even gnu-emacs in full screen, is there a freely available X server for Windoze or some other way i can do it? linux box is running debian 3.1 |
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| 02:36.03 | Guerin | zu22: cygwin has an x server |
| 02:36.18 | mfrisch | Do you use scsi emulation for cd burners still 2.6 kernel or is it out. |
| 02:36.20 | abrotman | and there are vnc servers |
| 02:36.24 | zu22 | guerin: ah, can i install just that and not all the other crap? |
| 02:36.25 | Guerin | zu22: but you're much saner just running emacs in text mode |
| 02:36.26 | abrotman | mfrisch: in most cases .. no |
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| 02:36.40 | Guerin | zu22: you can install only the x server and what's needed to run it, yes. |
| 02:36.42 | mfrisch | abrotman: thought so thanks |
| 02:36.44 | zu22 | geurin: yeah i been running 'emacs -nw', i miss xemacs though :P |
| 02:36.54 | zu22 | guerin: thanks i'll give it a go |
| 02:37.13 | xlotlu | what is the "clean" way to not load ipv6 in kernel without modifying /etc/modprobe.d/aliases ? |
| 02:37.13 | Guerin | zu22: cygwin also has a good terminal emulator and a proper ssh client |
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| 02:37.40 | zu22 | guerin: oh that's nice, been using ssh and winscp |
| 02:37.46 | zu22 | guerin: s/ssh/putty |
| 02:38.41 | abrotman | doesn't win32 have an xemacs of sorts? |
| 02:39.03 | abrotman | i guess what would be comprable would be .. MSWord |
| 02:39.08 | mfrisch | Is there a good vpn to do samba over. That has a windows client. |
| 02:39.39 | Raids | hey everyone |
| 02:39.56 | Raids | quick question. is it possible to install debian on a 512meg HD? |
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| 02:40.03 | abrotman | Raids: should be |
| 02:40.26 | abrotman | though .. last time i tried .. it was like 1999 :) |
| 02:40.27 | DragonD | How do i dicsonnect a ssh user that is logged in? |
| 02:40.28 | Raids | abrotman: I'm trying to use the buisness card 40 megs in VMware to test it out |
| 02:40.32 | mfrisch | Raids: a server yes |
| 02:40.35 | abrotman | DragonD: kill his shell |
| 02:40.45 | Raids | A server eh. Do i need a different iso |
| 02:40.46 | abrotman | Raids: use the netinst .. if your NIC isn't supported in the BusCard .. you're stuck |
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| 02:41.10 | DragonD | abrotman: that's it? |
| 02:41.11 | Raids | I'm using the netinst. it didn't give me an option to do a server though ;( |
| 02:41.12 | mfrisch | Raids: a router yes |
| 02:41.14 | DragonD | ps -A |
| 02:41.16 | DragonD | oops |
| 02:41.35 | abrotman | DragonD: do you think it would be more complicated ? |
| 02:41.43 | abrotman | Raids: it's all the same |
| 02:41.58 | xlotlu | mfrisch: openvpn. you can bridge adapters and have real smb access, or can conf some more without bridging |
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| 02:42.19 | Raids | I'm getting an old computer tomorrow. i'm just trying it out in VMware to make sure it's possible |
| 02:42.24 | DragonD | abrotman: well i thought there would be a simple kick command or something like that |
| 02:42.47 | abrotman | DragonD: your foot? |
| 02:42.49 | resiak | !slay |
| 02:42.58 | resiak | !info slay |
| 02:43.04 | abrotman | !slay resiak |
| 02:43.06 | dpkg | slay: (Kills all of the user's processes), section admin, is optional. Version: 2.5 (sid), Packaged size: 9 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
| 02:43.07 | resiak | :( |
| 02:43.19 | Raids | lol |
| 02:43.43 | mfrisch | what does error 139 mean in dselect aptitude dpkg?? |
| 02:43.59 | xlotlu | Raids: i just installed it on a 1G hdd, it takes a bit over 300M right now, plus 100 M swap |
| 02:44.19 | abrotman | xlotlu: 100MB!?!! |
| 02:44.19 | Guerin | abrotman: emacs is available for win32 |
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| 02:44.25 | abrotman | Guerin: more bloat :) |
| 02:44.28 | mfrisch | xlotlu: do you have gcc and all that?? |
| 02:44.58 | xlotlu | mfrisch yeah, i was just about to get the kernel sources |
| 02:45.08 | xlotlu | abrotman: that a lot or not enough? |
| 02:45.17 | abrotman | xlotlu: depends how much RAM you have |
| 02:45.22 | abrotman | and what the box is doing |
| 02:45.25 | xlotlu | abrotman: 32 :) |
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| 02:45.41 | abrotman | seems like 100MB is over kill to me .. but whatever |
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| 02:45.56 | Raids | I'm installing right now, we'll see what happens :) |
| 02:46.13 | xlotlu | 100 is heavily in excess. if it starts swapping it's completely screwed anyway... the box is fw/gw |
| 02:46.26 | DragonD | ok well it didn't work. |
| 02:46.31 | noideaatall | hi there does `tput` or any other command has a way to know the # of rows in the terminal ? |
| 02:46.35 | abrotman | xlotlu: RANDKILL! yay! |
| 02:47.01 | noideaatall | any one knows ? |
| 02:47.07 | abrotman | wait |
| 02:47.20 | abrotman | there is $COLUMNS |
| 02:48.07 | noideaatall | yeah , `tput cols` shows columns |
| 02:48.16 | noideaatall | i wanted to know the rows |
| 02:48.39 | abrotman | did you try LINES ? |
| 02:48.53 | abrotman | there is $LINES also |
| 02:49.13 | noideaatall | $LINES seems to work thank you dude |
| 02:50.11 | noideaatall | sorry to bother with this question, but i really dont want to search the web for the answer .... what was the way to pass an environment variable to a script variable please ? |
| 02:51.12 | kapil | DragonD: kill -9 |
| 02:51.29 | abrotman | noideaatall: man bash .. or #bash |
| 02:51.33 | yanmorin | noideaatall: export VAR=value ./script.sh : in script.sh : echo $VAR ? |
| 02:51.41 | xlotlu | noideaatall: if it's an environment variable in the environment the script runs in, the script has access to it. that's why it's called "environment" variable |
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| 02:53.34 | DragonD | kapil: sry i ment the start/stop scripts |
| 02:53.56 | DragonD | is there a log of the rc# scripts? |
| 02:55.56 | abrotman | i think he meant like "/home/noideaatall $ ./scriptname param1 param2" etc |
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| 02:56.28 | marcster | hi. i just did an update of my ubuntu installation and i noticed my pc automatically shutting down after idling for a few mins. where should i check ? |
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| 02:56.46 | abrotman | marcster: #ubuntu |
| 02:56.47 | noideaatall | i want to to store the value of $LINES in a var in my script |
| 02:56.59 | marcster | no one's willing to help there |
| 02:57.17 | yanmorin | noideaatall: yourvar=$LINES echo $yourvar |
| 02:57.17 | Raids | dammit the debian install has gone out of control. it's installing stuff left right and centre |
| 02:57.22 | Raids | lol |
| 02:57.30 | abrotman | marcster: #ubuntu |
| 02:57.34 | Xenguy | Raids: hah |
| 02:57.36 | Tchiak | "g' |
| 02:57.37 | marcster | no one's willing to help there |
| 02:57.47 | abrotman | noideaatall: do you expect it to change |
| 02:57.50 | abrotman | !d-i marcster |
| 02:57.50 | dpkg | marcster, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 02:58.02 | dvs | !they don't know |
| 02:58.02 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 02:58.09 | noideaatall | no |
| 02:58.24 | noideaatall | yanmorin: that wont work just tried |
| 02:58.24 | abrotman | noideaatall: then you can use $LINES and $COLUMNS |
| 02:59.02 | noideaatall | but i aint getting $LINES= value on my script .... its empty value |
| 02:59.13 | noideaatall | it just treats it like a variable from my script |
| 02:59.18 | noideaatall | not from bash |
| 02:59.21 | abrotman | noideaatall: from your script .. echo $LINES .. you get nothing ? |
| 02:59.33 | noideaatall | exactly ... empty line |
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| 02:59.37 | benjamindees | anybody else with an actual Pentium I who can lend me a user account to test something? |
| 02:59.38 | kapil | DragonD: short answer "no". long answer check /var/log/daemon.log you may find what you want. |
| 03:00.23 | yanmorin | ah yeah, right, it's not a bash variable, but a console variable... strange.. |
| 03:00.37 | caphuso | there's no such thing as a "console variable" |
| 03:00.47 | noideaatall | new to me |
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| 03:01.17 | stew | export console='this is kinda like a console variable' |
| 03:01.27 | Raids | lol didn't work, my install ran out of space :( |
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| 03:01.56 | yanmorin | noideaatall: try this trick: LINES=$LINES ./yourscript.sh |
| 03:02.16 | noideaatall | ste: export console='$LINES' ... is that what you said ? |
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| 03:02.54 | noideaatall | but that needs to be run from bash right ? ... i would be needing to type that command from bash everytime before exceuting the script |
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| 03:03.14 | Yango | I had actual bugs in my notebook :) |
| 03:03.35 | noideaatall | i need something that can be run from the script .... something like 'import' but aparently that command does not exists |
| 03:03.54 | dondelelcaro | noideaatall: install imagemagick; |
| 03:03.59 | dondelelcaro | !tell noideaatall -about search |
| 03:04.44 | yanmorin | noideaatall: you can execute a script inside another script with . scriptname syntax |
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| 03:05.27 | ding | Anyone know if there is a problem with the nvidia-kernel-source package? I would check myself, but the debian site says things are currently down due to performance reasons. I get an old driver version that my xorg doesn't like... |
| 03:05.40 | noideaatall | yanmorin: why would i want to do that ? |
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| 03:05.48 | DragonD | is there a way to "mirror" another user on my server? like see that commands thier typing? |
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| 03:06.38 | yanmorin | noideaatall: you said you want to import something.. |
| 03:07.11 | abrotman | he wants the terminal size |
| 03:07.12 | noideaatall | yanmorin: lol , yea , the value of $LINES to a script |
| 03:07.25 | noideaatall | exactly |
| 03:07.27 | yanmorin | so do as I said: LINES=$LINES ./script |
| 03:08.21 | abrotman | there should be another way |
| 03:08.27 | abrotman | noideaatall: try asking #bash |
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| 03:08.49 | abrotman | or `tput lines` |
| 03:08.50 | yanmorin | why searching another way, when it works.. |
| 03:08.51 | jshriver | how do you add a ftp/http? |
| 03:08.58 | abrotman | to what? |
| 03:09.03 | jshriver | er debian |
| 03:09.04 | jshriver | apt |
| 03:09.13 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 03:09.19 | noideaatall | yanmorin: that may work .... but i would need to run that from bash everytime before i run my script .... i need something to run from inside my script |
| 03:09.24 | abrotman | noideaatall: tput lines ? |
| 03:09.46 | noideaatall | omg abrotman!!! |
| 03:09.49 | noideaatall | thats in |
| 03:09.54 | noideaatall | s/in/it |
| 03:10.00 | jshriver | I know apt-cdrom add will add CD's but how do you add http/ftp? |
| 03:10.41 | caphuso | jshriver: apt-setup |
| 03:10.43 | liable | jshriver: abrotman told you |
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| 03:10.49 | abrotman | noideaatall: that's what happens when you read the man page :) |
| 03:10.52 | jshriver | thanks sorry |
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| 03:11.08 | noideaatall | lol i swear i read it .... just dont saw that one |
| 03:11.17 | noideaatall | s/dont/didnt/ |
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| 03:11.23 | yanmorin | they talk about tput inside man bash? |
| 03:11.28 | abrotman | apt: can you stop doing that? |
| 03:11.42 | abrotman | yanmorin: no .. inside man tput :) |
| 03:11.45 | noideaatall | just `man tput` |
| 03:11.51 | noideaatall | ...i think |
| 03:12.21 | yanmorin | you can read the man page of tput if you don't know the command tput... |
| 03:12.25 | yanmorin | can't |
| 03:12.32 | noideaatall | now i can complete my good-for-nothing script |
| 03:12.39 | abrotman | yanmorin: he mentioned it to start with :) |
| 03:12.41 | mettallicat | can u help-me getting playing dvd in my debian ? |
| 03:12.45 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:12.45 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:13.53 | Dewi | my machine (sarge) seems to take around 30 seconds to look up the name for www.google.com when I use a web browser or other client program... yet I can "ping" the same host instantly |
| 03:14.17 | Dewi | the web is slow, apt is slow... but only to begin with, while resolving names |
| 03:14.32 | Dewi | and yet I can ping these same hostnames easily |
| 03:14.40 | abrotman | Dewi: have you tried using other dns servers? |
| 03:15.08 | Dewi | abrotman: other machines using the same DNS don't have this problem |
| 03:15.24 | Dewi | it's a very newly installed sarge machine. All I've put on it is sudo, basically |
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| 03:16.12 | kapil | Dewi: are you using an http proxy? |
| 03:16.13 | noideaatall | wtf ??? there is no `man while`? |
| 03:16.14 | Hamled | is etch the current unstable? |
| 03:16.17 | abrotman | no |
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| 03:16.28 | abrotman | noideaatall: man bash .. it's a builtin afaik |
| 03:16.33 | Dewi | kapil: only the bastard one my ISP transparently filters me through |
| 03:16.38 | noideaatall | what is afaik? |
| 03:16.40 | Dewi | kapil: but that comes after name resolution anyway |
| 03:16.45 | Dewi | noideaatall: "as far as I know" |
| 03:16.46 | blockd | Dewi: just something to try, what if you do http://216.239.57.104? (google). Just to make sure it's not something just to do with ports. |
| 03:16.59 | Dewi | actually one thing I can say is that my OWN host name doesn't exist |
| 03:17.06 | Dewi | I haven't added a record for it yet |
| 03:17.12 | Dewi | maybe that's my problem |
| 03:17.16 | abrotman | Dewi: does localhost exist ? |
| 03:17.20 | Dewi | I mean that's why the MTA takes bloody ages to start |
| 03:17.26 | Dewi | abrotman: well, yeah |
| 03:17.32 | Dewi | abrotman: but not foo.bar.com.au |
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| 03:17.49 | abrotman | Dewi: that shouldn't matter |
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| 03:18.11 | Dewi | abrotman: you'd think so. Maybe I should just set up the record and see if things improve |
| 03:18.13 | jshriver | What is the best Java implementation for Linux? my main system seems to have 3 different VM's.. |
| 03:18.25 | jshriver | 2 vers of Sun's and something called Kaffe that seems to puke |
| 03:18.28 | Dewi | abrotman: it works great after a particular host is looked up for a given process |
| 03:18.33 | abrotman | kaffe isn't so good .. |
| 03:18.35 | abrotman | IMO anyways |
| 03:18.38 | Dewi | abrotman: it's just the first time after opening elinks or aptitude |
| 03:18.53 | abrotman | Dewi: you could try strace .. see where it pauses |
| 03:19.05 | jshriver | lol |
| 03:19.28 | Dewi | abrotman: true. god I love the idea of strace. I'm not much of a C coder in unix though, so it's a bit mysterious. |
| 03:19.39 | jshriver | Well I have a fresh system, and wanted to put java on it for some developing.. didnt know which of the Sun's or another VM someone recommended. |
| 03:19.48 | jshriver | seems like Sun has several different versions.. |
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| 03:19.57 | vulture | jshriver: get the latest.. |
| 03:20.04 | vulture | use java-package to create a debian package for it |
| 03:20.16 | Dewi | jshriver: the GNU implementation of the java API is incomplete |
| 03:20.24 | jshriver | Which Sun version then? |
| 03:20.28 | Dewi | jshriver: for this reason most java fans seem to recommend sticking with sun a while longer |
| 03:20.48 | Dewi | jshriver: and as vulture says, java-package will let you convert a binary sun linux download into a useful .deb for your system |
| 03:21.01 | abrotman | jshriver: the easy answer .. uninstall all of them .. and instal just the one you want :) |
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| 03:21.20 | jshriver | lol ok |
| 03:21.37 | Dewi | I wish Sun would drop its binary dist license bullshit |
| 03:21.41 | jshriver | well there's the Sun SDK, JRE, Enterprise, whatever x version... trying |
| 03:21.48 | Dewi | can't believe how many manhours around the world it wastes |
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| 03:22.01 | Dewi | because nobody can create proper system specific binaries |
| 03:22.01 | kuhwallskee | I got a question I installed gallery thru apt-get now how do I use it? |
| 03:22.02 | jshriver | SE 5.0, |
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| 03:22.33 | Dewi | kuhwallskee: I don't know the package in question, but often the package name is similar to what you would type to start it. Or at least its man page. man <whatever> |
| 03:22.34 | jshriver | kuhwallskee, I usually do "dpkg -l package" or is it -L, anyway it shows all of the files, and look for something in /usr/bin |
| 03:22.49 | kuhwallskee | jshriver, it's a php app |
| 03:23.05 | abrotman | /usr/share/doc/gallery/ might be a good place to start |
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| 03:27.05 | gridbug | Hey folks - anyone know where to look for any indication on when / if evolution-exchange is going to catch up with the new Evolution 2.4 package(s)? |
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| 03:28.24 | astronut | dondelelcaro: ping |
| 03:28.39 | linuxnewbie101 | can someone help me get my orinoco gold working with kismet properly----- it will run but not pick up aps and packets properly |
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| 03:29.15 | jshriver | hrm... ok on the sun site... recommendations for JAVA? there's the 5.0 SE, 1.4, someting with netbeans.. |
| 03:29.56 | abrotman | that depends on your needs |
| 03:30.08 | jshriver | then there's 1.4 with 5.0, wtf |
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| 03:30.13 | vulture | Java is not an acronym. And no you don't need to get something with NetBeans (unless you're after an IDE - but I'm not sure if java-package can handle that distributable) |
| 03:30.16 | vulture | I doubt it does. |
| 03:30.16 | jshriver | I just wanted the latest VM for linux from Sun lol |
| 03:30.24 | wifigod | How do I change my default boot img? The default kernel I boot to is corrupt and I want to change it to my stable one. |
| 03:31.02 | jshriver | edit lilo.conf or grub.conf and run the boot loader |
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| 03:31.06 | abrotman | edit the conf file for your bootloader |
| 03:31.09 | abrotman | jshriver: not grub.conf |
| 03:31.12 | jshriver | /etc/lilo.conf or /etc/grub/grub.conf |
| 03:31.29 | abrotman | /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 03:31.33 | wifigod | I figured it was as easy as that, thanks |
| 03:31.46 | mo1991 | has anyone figured out how to fix the printing on firefox? I have installed 1.5 and still only prints half of the page??? |
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| 03:32.15 | mo1991 | BTW - thanks to those who helped me compiling a .deb backport of sid wine now |
| 03:32.18 | kapil | wifigod: in the grub case please read the comment lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst carefully |
| 03:32.29 | _Sam-- | i am trying to mount an initrd.img using -o loop...but it keeps asking me for the fs type....what am i missing? |
| 03:32.35 | wifigod | I'm actually running lilo |
| 03:32.57 | abrotman | /etc/lilo.conf |
| 03:33.10 | kyncani | _Sam--: man mount, look for "type" |
| 03:33.19 | _Sam-- | ive tried them all |
| 03:33.39 | wifigod | fixed |
| 03:33.41 | _Sam-- | no man pages or web pages show having to specify a file type for mounting a -o loop |
| 03:33.42 | kyncani | _Sam--: even "auto" ? |
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| 03:33.56 | ke6isf | _Sam--: 'file initrd.img'? |
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| 03:34.10 | mettallicat | how to use an source repository ? |
| 03:34.11 | _Sam-- | yes |
| 03:34.18 | kapil | _Sam--: the initrd.img is usually a cramfs/initramfs system. mount will complain if cramfs is not supported and initramfs cannot be mounted. |
| 03:34.27 | linuxnewbie101 | can someone help me get my orinoco gold working with kismet properly----- it will run but not pick up aps and packets properly |
| 03:34.29 | ke6isf | !source |
| 03:34.29 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, source is To work with Debian source packages, cd to a location with free space and run the following: apt-get install build-essential && apt-get source <packagename> && apt-get build-dep <packagename>. Then cd into source directory and run debian/rules binary to build debs from source. |
| 03:34.32 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 03:34.32 | roby | I got a new HD, enough space to rip my music CDs without making them mp3 or ogg... should I rip wav or cda or something else entirely? |
| 03:34.38 | mtomczak | So, I have a sort of meta-question concerning how the APT repositories are maintained. |
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| 03:34.55 | mettallicat | tks ke6isf |
| 03:35.00 | ke6isf | mettallicat: Gladly. |
| 03:35.16 | kapil | _Sam--: as someone said what does "file initrd.img" show you? |
| 03:35.22 | ke6isf | mtomczak: Just ask the question, let's see if we can figure things out. |
| 03:35.32 | mtomczak | I'm looking specifically at the pieces of the nvidia driver architecture. Over at http.us.debian.org (unstable/non-free), they've got version 1.0.8178 up. |
| 03:35.39 | astronut | ke6isf: thread for you to read |
| 03:35.41 | dondelelcaro | astronut: pong |
| 03:35.44 | mtomczak | Over at debian.ethz.ch, they've got version 1.0.7174 up. |
| 03:35.50 | ke6isf | astronut: eh? |
| 03:35.58 | mike__ | does sarge get security updates or is it permanetly frozen now? like patches to firefox? |
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| 03:36.03 | astronut | ke6isf: one sec |
| 03:36.12 | abrotman | mike__: security.debian.org |
| 03:36.15 | astronut | dondelelcaro: i wasn't taking a stance...just sharing info about FCC rules |
| 03:36.20 | mtomczak | Oh, sorry, this is for nvidia-glx specifically. |
| 03:36.22 | mike__ | i see...thanks |
| 03:36.25 | ke6isf | mike__: Sarge gets security patches. What abrotman said. |
| 03:36.28 | Reformed | Hi, is there a place I can get typical Debian ./configure options for when you have to compile source (no packages available) from? |
| 03:36.30 | _Sam-- | initrd.img-2.6.8-2-386: Linux Compressed ROM File System data |
| 03:36.32 | astronut | ke6isf: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2006/01/msg00472.html |
| 03:37.08 | mtomczak | Thing is... none of the other nvidia pieces (the rest I get comin from debian.ethz.ch) are up to 1.0.8178 yet. So if I just "upgrade to newest" across the board, I get a broken nvidia interface. |
| 03:37.09 | astronut | dondelelcaro: my language is usually informal, sometimes profane on irc, but polite in mail... |
| 03:37.20 | astronut | but ya, you have a very good point about the spam |
| 03:37.29 | _Sam-- | i got it mounted up on a different box, thanks. |
| 03:37.34 | _Sam-- | can make my changes there |
| 03:37.41 | mtomczak | My question is: what is the purpose of the 1.0.8178 version of nvidia-glx over at http.us.debian.org? |
| 03:38.01 | kapil | _Sam--: to see what is in this file system (note that mounting will not help much since cramfs is read-only) you can run 'cramfsck -x /tmp/new_dir initrd.img' where /tmp/new_dir does not exist. |
| 03:38.16 | astronut | grr |
| 03:38.18 | ke6isf | astronut: Heh. =^^= Ten years ago I was discouraged from having available a public internet to ham band packet server due to the legalities. |
| 03:38.27 | _Sam-- | i have it mounted rw |
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| 03:38.35 | astronut | ke6isf: you've obviously been liscenced far longer than i |
| 03:38.37 | mtomczak | It can't be used without a matching kernel-driver set. The thing just barfs over the version incompatability. So is there another use for nvidia-glx that would justify adding a version that would break the nvidia setups of the ignorant masses (i.e. me)? :) |
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| 03:38.46 | ke6isf | astronut: I officially got mine in 1994. |
| 03:38.52 | kapil | _Sam--: good for you. hope it works. |
| 03:39.10 | _Sam-- | thank you |
| 03:39.19 | dondelelcaro | astronut: right; I was just saying that even worrying about profanity on the lists is kind of silly |
| 03:39.22 | abrotman | ke6isf: are you like .. 80? |
| 03:39.26 | _Sam-- | lol you were right |
| 03:39.34 | ke6isf | abrotman: No, 31. But at times it feels like 80. =O.o= |
| 03:39.36 | astronut | dondelelcaro: suppose so |
| 03:39.38 | _Sam-- | touch: cannot touch `blah': Read-only file system |
| 03:39.47 | ke6isf | astronut: I haven't really been active since LA Marathon run 2002, but last I checked 2M, it was deader than a doornail, except when there's a quake. |
| 03:40.08 | astronut | oh? |
| 03:40.08 | kapil | _Sam--: copy the files over to a directory. make your changes. run mkcramfs. |
| 03:40.13 | _Sam-- | thank you |
| 03:40.14 | astronut | our 2m is fairly active |
| 03:40.22 | astronut | i'm just a no code tech |
| 03:40.53 | ke6isf | Been pondering upgrading to general since 1999 when they changed the license structure. |
| 03:41.10 | _Sam-- | cp -a will work fine? |
| 03:41.21 | astronut | dondelelcaro: anyway, i just answered his (Thjis') question about who's authority and such, and looked up the citation cause it was while i was getting dressed before school..then Miles kind of started an arguement with me so i replied there |
| 03:41.24 | kapil | _Sam--: should work fine. |
| 03:41.26 | dondelelcaro | dunno, the 2M repeaters here are fairly active |
| 03:41.29 | astronut | ke6isf: *nod*.. code is my issue |
| 03:41.33 | astronut | dondelelcaro: you're a ham? |
| 03:41.37 | dondelelcaro | astronut: yes. |
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| 03:41.40 | astronut | dondelelcaro: fun |
| 03:41.41 | _Sam-- | thanks again kapil. |
| 03:41.43 | astronut | ours are too |
| 03:41.49 | astronut | not the local local one as much |
| 03:41.55 | kapil | _sam--: glad to be of help. |
| 03:42.07 | astronut | i haven't been on the radio in a while...took it otu of my car, then disconnected it in room so now it's sitting there...usually talk when i drive |
| 03:42.09 | kyncani | mtomczak: i have nvidia-glx-1.0.8178-1 working just fine |
| 03:42.13 | astronut | dondelelcaro: class/call? |
| 03:42.21 | dondelelcaro | astronut: nocode, KE6LLM |
| 03:42.42 | astronut | nocode, KI4CXN (obviously) |
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| 03:42.59 | ke6isf | dondelelcaro: Heh, you're right down the road from me. =^^= |
| 03:43.01 | ThetaWave | hello all |
| 03:43.02 | dondelelcaro | dang, they'r eup to I now... |
| 03:43.03 | mtomczak | kycani: Cool :) What' version / flavor of nvidia-kernel are you using? |
| 03:43.12 | gnos | hello |
| 03:43.22 | kyncani | 2.6.14-2-686 |
| 03:43.30 | ThetaWave | Question: how would you find out what version of a package is currently installed |
| 03:43.36 | astronut | lots of hams in here... |
| 03:43.38 | ke6isf | Wow, more hams here than I thought. =^^= |
| 03:43.39 | astronut | not suprised though |
| 03:43.43 | astronut | any others? |
| 03:43.46 | abrotman | stew: ka3wfa == drunk ? |
| 03:43.47 | mtomczak | Ah-ha :) I see where I missed a beat. Thank you for your help! |
| 03:43.47 | astronut | and that's just of people listening right now |
| 03:43.47 | ke6isf | astronut: Hey, it's a geek hobby. =^^= |
| 03:43.47 | _Sam-- | kapil--do you have any good ideas on what i need to change in my initrd to create an initial ramdisk (i know how to do that), mount up a var_real...mount /var as a ramdisk...then copy /var_real to the ramdisk? |
| 03:44.01 | astronut | ke6isf: hence "not suprised" |
| 03:44.05 | _Sam-- | or at least any general ideas |
| 03:44.05 | kapil | ThetaWave: 'dpkg -l package_name' |
| 03:44.07 | astronut | prob 3-5 more asleep or afk |
| 03:44.09 | ke6isf | astronut: Indeed. =^^= |
| 03:44.18 | kyncani | mtomczak: np :) |
| 03:44.22 | _Sam-- | it is all done with scripting? |
| 03:44.28 | stew | i never operate however |
| 03:44.31 | mtomczak | I'm still on kernel 2.4.27. So when I pulled down the newest version of nvidia-glx, I didn't get a matching nvidia-kernel module because I'm locked at 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 03:44.41 | stew | whereever I live next i'll actaully be able to put up antennas |
| 03:45.17 | troxy_ | how do I manually add file associations/actions to the firefox download manager? |
| 03:45.21 | mtomczak | Though it does seem that a dependency should be added to nvidia-glx, forcing version number to > 1.0.7174, given that it's definitely incompatible. That's an "e-mail the package maintainer" sort of thing, right? |
| 03:45.21 | ke6isf | stew: I just need a good place to hang a twin-lead J-pole from. Unfortunately, when they remodeled our apartments, that good place - a convenient hook near the air conditioner compressor - was removed. |
| 03:45.40 | ThetaWave | kapil: thanks! I don't see the -l option in the man pages. Any idea why? |
| 03:45.49 | kapil | _Sam--: all scripts. /sbin/init runs scripts in /scripts at the end. so perhaps you need to put a script there. |
| 03:45.54 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 03:45.56 | _Sam-- | i see it |
| 03:46.00 | mo1991_ | when I shut of the bittorrent program the other day - I noticed that I was still getting quite a bit of traffic on port 6881 (bittorrent port) while scanning with ethereal. Can anyone elplain to me why this would be? Shoudn't communication stop once I close bittorrent? |
| 03:46.04 | astronut | ke6isf: throw it in a tree |
| 03:46.06 | stew | ke6isf: i don't even have a working ht any more, the last time i tried to turn it on it was dead |
| 03:46.08 | emesa | perhaps I'm doing something wrong - shouldn't the command chmod 777 foldername cause all users to have r/w access to it? |
| 03:46.16 | ke6isf | astronut: Well, I do have a long enough coaxial... |
| 03:46.27 | ke6isf | stew: Ouch. |
| 03:46.38 | _Sam-- | so all "live" cds, like knoppix...just use initrd that does about the same thing as i am describing, Kapil? |
| 03:46.48 | ke6isf | stew: Then again, I have an HTX-202. Those things just don't die. |
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| 03:46.55 | ThetaWave | kapil: hmmm it's not telling me which version of apache I have installed. Is there a way to do a looser match? |
| 03:46.55 | blazefx | Hey all |
| 03:46.57 | _Sam-- | it is all done with the /scripts directory? |
| 03:46.59 | kyncani | mtomczak: there is such a dep, and i think you have the right kernel module installed |
| 03:47.05 | kapil | Thetawave: it *is* in the man page but way way down. |
| 03:47.31 | kyncani | mtomczak: but nvidia's kernel module (like all modules), does not depends on any kernel ... |
| 03:47.40 | jjazz | ThetaWave: dpkg -l | grep apache2 |
| 03:47.43 | stew | ke6isf: yes, those are definately built to last. all i have now is an ic745 hf txvr, but no antenna or coax to hook to it |
| 03:48.03 | kapil | _Sam--: Knoppix has its own version of initrd. The one you are (probably) looking at is the "traditional" Debian initrd.img made by initrd-tools. |
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| 03:48.24 | _Sam-- | yes..i was just curious ...but all the live cd's do is copy stuff to ram from that initrd |
| 03:48.27 | _Sam-- | ? |
| 03:48.27 | mtomczak | kycani: That's strange. What's the version # of your nvidia-kernel package? Mine is flavor 2.4.27-2-386, version 1.0.7174+1 |
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| 03:48.43 | kapil | _Sam--: if that is not confusing enough :) there are now two other tools initramfs-tools and yaird that have their own versions. |
| 03:48.53 | _Sam-- | i enjoy learning it |
| 03:49.01 | kyncani | mtomczak: there are many nvidia-kernel-* packages, and at least one for kernel 2.4 and one for 2.6 :) |
| 03:49.12 | _Sam-- | i need to learn next how to use and mount the compressed filesystem as root |
| 03:49.19 | kapil | _Sam--: You mean like knoppix "toram" cheatcodes? |
| 03:49.33 | _Sam-- | no, like the way knoppix boots and works in general |
| 03:49.41 | ThetaWave | jjazz: that did it! thanks! |
| 03:49.42 | _Sam-- | its is all controlled by that initrd |
| 03:49.48 | jjazz | ThetaWave: np |
| 03:49.49 | mtomczak | True. But I'm wondering what the version # of the one you have installed is. Because for the flavor I have installed (2.4.27-2-386), I don't see a version higher than 1.0.7174+1. |
| 03:49.52 | _Sam-- | i havent seen it |
| 03:50.05 | kyncani | mtomczak: so i think nvidia-glx pulls in a nvidia kernel module for kernel 2.6, but does not install any 2.6 kernel .. and you're still running 2.4 |
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| 03:50.22 | _Sam-- | i am working on a solid state device (no moving parts not even cpu fan).... |
| 03:50.24 | kyncani | mtomczak: dpkg -l nvidia-kernel-* |
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| 03:50.40 | _Sam-- | that is why i am trying to get this thing running from some ramdisks at boot |
| 03:50.59 | emesa | why can't I chmod a folder I own? |
| 03:51.01 | kapil | _Sam--: that's right. but there are different methods used. |
| 03:51.17 | abrotman | emesa: what folder .. and what command |
| 03:51.21 | _Sam-- | i dont understand yet how to take a compressed filesystem and uncompress it on the fly to a ramdisk and run that as / |
| 03:51.26 | _Sam-- | but maybe by the end of the night |
| 03:51.38 | mtomczak | Ah, yes, I see a version 1.0.8178+1, but it's for Linux kernel 2.6.14. |
| 03:51.48 | emesa | it's a folder owned by me, just created (non root) I typed chmod 7777 foldername |
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| 03:51.52 | mtomczak | So it's not getting loaded since I'm on 2.4.27. |
| 03:51.56 | emesa | chmod: changing permissions of `Eric_Files/': Operation not permitted |
| 03:52.09 | abrotman | maybe just 777 ? |
| 03:52.10 | kyncani | mtomczak: yep :) but the dep is satisfied .. somehow, and some level :) |
| 03:52.19 | kyncani | s/and/at/ |
| 03:52.41 | emesa | 777 doesn't give everyone r/w - am I forgetting something? |
| 03:52.45 | kapil | _Sam--: the initrd-tools philosopy (also probably general philosophy) about initrd's is. (a) load modules needed to mount / (b) mount / read-only (c) put enough start-up stuff on / to boot the system. |
| 03:52.48 | abrotman | emesa: yes it does |
| 03:52.53 | abrotman | lalalalal |
| 03:52.54 | mtomczak | That makes sense :) I'm new to aptitude... only realized today how you can tell aptitude to solve a conflict a different way :) |
| 03:52.56 | kyncani | ?? apt now supports s/// ? cool :) |
| 03:52.56 | abrotman | s/a/o/g |
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| 03:53.01 | abrotman | that's just wrong |
| 03:53.10 | emesa | drwxr-xr-x 2 eric eric 32768 2006-01-09 23:40 Eric_Files |
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| 03:53.22 | mtomczak | So no-one has checked in an upgrade for my flavor; since it's working at the lower version, I'll leave it there for now. |
| 03:53.23 | kapil | _Sam--: i wrote an article in LG (linux-gazette) sometime last year explaining some of this stuff. |
| 03:53.29 | kyncani | abrotman: humm, maybe |
| 03:53.36 | _Sam-- | feel free to message the url |
| 03:53.36 | mtomczak | Thank you for the help! I have a much better understanding of what I'm looking at now :) |
| 03:53.49 | kapil | _Sam--: for on the fly de-compression look at cloop. |
| 03:53.51 | kyncani | mtomczak: np, cu :) |
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| 03:54.53 | _Sam-- | kapil: you are very smart...maybe you have some good idea for this...i have a compact flash card that i boot many systems on (please dont start telling me about booting from CF--i know)...but that cf has X server... |
| 03:55.05 | _Sam-- | and every time i boot new computer, i have to configure X for new video card settings |
| 03:55.09 | _Sam-- | how could i automate that? |
| 03:55.48 | kyncani | _Sam--: X -configure |
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| 03:56.05 | _Sam-- | that is an automatic video prober thing? |
| 03:56.07 | kyncani | _Sam--: or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 03:56.17 | _Sam-- | i dont want to have to reconfigure every time |
| 03:56.17 | kyncani | _Sam--: the -configure thingie ? yeah :) |
| 03:56.26 | britt | dumb Q, my memory failed me...how do i list what drives debian found? I need to mount a cdrom and i dunno what /dev entry it has |
| 03:56.27 | _Sam-- | ahh.... |
| 03:56.38 | _Sam-- | so you say i just type X -configure (or have a shell script do it)... |
| 03:56.41 | _Sam-- | and it will configure right? |
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| 03:56.52 | kapil | _Sam--: dont remember the url. just check out www.linuxgazette.net archives issue 113. |
| 03:57.03 | kyncani | _Sam--: try it |
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| 03:57.21 | _Sam-- | you would think startx would be smart enough to do that on its own? |
| 03:57.26 | _Sam-- | if that is all thats needed? |
| 03:57.33 | _Sam-- | <i cant try it..im sshd in right now> |
| 03:57.38 | kyncani | _Sam--: nope |
| 03:57.38 | emesa | ok, so the folders are on an external usb drive - I have figured out that I can chmod folders in my home directory |
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| 03:57.55 | emesa | but folders on the external usb drive won't chmod |
| 03:57.56 | kyncani | _Sam--: X -configure won't start an X server, just create a conf file |
| 03:58.03 | _Sam-- | i see |
| 03:58.05 | _Sam-- | thats perfect |
| 03:58.10 | _Sam-- | i just do that before X starts |
| 03:58.23 | Frederick | hi folks, wich is the command to check if eth0 has a valid ip and network is working I want something like gentoos dhcpcd |
| 03:58.28 | _Sam-- | thank you |
| 03:58.28 | kapil | _Sam--: the dpkg-reconfigure thing works well if you also "preseed" most of the answers. |
| 03:58.34 | kyncani | _Sam--: np :) |
| 03:58.42 | emesa | Frederick - ifconfig? |
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| 03:58.55 | klock | clear |
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| 03:59.02 | Frederick | emesa, nope omething like pump dhcpcd duno |
| 03:59.02 | kyncani | Frederick: ping ? |
| 03:59.29 | mo1991_ | does anyone use bittorrent with firewall open ports 6881? I am seeing traffic on this port even after bittorrent is closed. ANy ideas why. Scanning with ethereal |
| 03:59.32 | Frederick | kyncani, after you modprobe a nic module what do you do to give it an ip? |
| 03:59.38 | abrotman | emesa: what options were used to mount this ? |
| 03:59.41 | kapil | _Sam--: i never had to energy to set up auto-configuration of X. i just did dpkg-reconfigure by hand if necessary. another option is to use the "vesa" setting which will work most ofthe time. |
| 03:59.46 | kyncani | Frederick: you're looking for dhclient maybe ? |
| 03:59.55 | Frederick | kyncani, yes |
| 04:00.09 | jjazz | mo1991_: After you leave the swarm, it takes a while for everybody in the swarm to know you're gone, so they keep knocking. |
| 04:00.09 | Jeeves_Moss | dpkg: how do you add users to a samba server? |
| 04:00.19 | noiesmo | anyone using mp3act on debian at all or connecting to it |
| 04:00.21 | stew | Jeeves_Moss: man smbpasswd |
| 04:00.21 | emesa | abrotman: /dev/sdb1 /media/external vfat rw,user 0 0 |
| 04:00.22 | britt | mount cdrom, whats the cdrom called in debian? |
| 04:00.24 | jjazz | Frederick: debian has pump if you want it |
| 04:00.25 | emesa | that's my fstab |
| 04:00.30 | Jeeves_Moss | stew: THX. |
| 04:00.30 | Frederick | kyncani, to be true it is a ubuntu box |
| 04:00.36 | emesa | and I just mounted w/ the mount command |
| 04:00.42 | Frederick | but #ubuntu is a mess atm |
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| 04:00.54 | gravity | wtf |
| 04:01.00 | Kupal[] | anyone know how i can script a comport? |
| 04:01.01 | abrotman | emesa: vfat has no permissions |
| 04:01.03 | kyncani | Frederick: to be true, i was using ubuntu one-two months ago :) |
| 04:01.13 | abrotman | gravity: did you fall off the chair again? |
| 04:01.16 | emesa | abrotman: should it be auto? |
| 04:01.21 | Kupal[] | I need to do send and init string, then send the output to std-out to pipe. |
| 04:01.33 | gravity | abrotman: I should stop counting the number of ubuntu users who come in here nightly |
| 04:01.36 | emesa | or the second 0 should be a 1? |
| 04:01.37 | abrotman | emesa: do you know what kind of security the FAT32 filesystem has ? |
| 04:01.42 | abrotman | gravity: how many are you up to ? |
| 04:01.43 | Kupal[] | n0ne |
| 04:01.50 | gravity | abrotman: At least four |
| 04:01.59 | gravity | abrotman: And I'm barely paying attention tonight |
| 04:02.20 | abrotman | gravity: i got an email from david moreno today about a very old X bug i filed |
| 04:02.20 | Kupal[] | abrotman: only attrib r - a - s - h (read only) (archive) (system) (hidden) |
| 04:02.38 | abrotman | emesa: do you know ? |
| 04:02.41 | gravity | ok |
| 04:02.44 | emesa | no |
| 04:02.48 | abrotman | emesa: NONE |
| 04:02.53 | mo1991 | jjazz - do other p2p or sharing programs exibit this behavior as well? |
| 04:02.53 | emesa | lol |
| 04:03.04 | abrotman | gravity: it was just weird .. he just wanted me to try to crash X again |
| 04:03.06 | _Sam-- | kapil: i notice on this initrd there is no 'cp' in /bin ...is ok to be cp'ing stuff around during initrd from real_roots to /ramdisks? |
| 04:03.15 | gravity | abrotman: With 6.9 though, right? |
| 04:03.21 | mo1991 | jjazz - and this is normal activity |
| 04:03.23 | jjazz | mo1991: I've seen it on others, yess. |
| 04:03.28 | abrotman | gravity: no .. the bug was with .. 4.3 i think |
| 04:03.30 | emesa | I wanted to be able to use this as a file server to both linux and windows thus fat |
| 04:03.42 | gravity | abrotman: Heh, well can you reproduce the bug with 6.9? |
| 04:03.45 | gravity | Or even 6.8? |
| 04:03.46 | buu | emesa: linux file system + samba |
| 04:03.49 | jjazz | mo1991: normal for bit torrent |
| 04:04.01 | abrotman | gravity: i'm going to try .. but the bug was .. "GL screensaver runs .. crashes X completely" |
| 04:04.02 | gravity | abrotman: I think he just wants to clean the bts out, which is something that *really* needs doing |
| 04:04.02 | emesa | I thought windows couldn't write to LFS? |
| 04:04.05 | emesa | had to be fat |
| 04:04.05 | buu | Hrm. If I have a geforce4 card using the binary nvidia drivers that works fine in regular linux, how do I enable it's svideo out? |
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| 04:04.11 | kapil | _Sam--: whatever binaries you need you will have to put on the initrd. quite often there is a "busybox" binary that is a portmanteau of all the required programs depending on how it is called. |
| 04:04.16 | kyncani | _Sam--: installing busybox in an initrd can provide lots of useful commands easily |
| 04:04.17 | mo1991 | jjazz - k - thx I'd just closed the port on my firewall for now |
| 04:04.18 | buu | emesa: Why? |
| 04:04.35 | abrotman | !explore2fs |
| 04:04.35 | dpkg | explore2fs is probably a win32 utility that lets you read and write(at your own risk!) ext2 file systems under win9x/nt/2000. URL: http://uranus.it.swin.edu.au/~jn/linux/ [Ask me about ext2ifs] |
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| 04:04.38 | kapil | _Sam--: and all the supporting libraries for the binaries. |
| 04:04.41 | _Sam-- | but overall, copying stuff around and doing normal shell scripting stuff is just fine? |
| 04:04.45 | abrotman | and it doesn't matter .. since it's going to be shared via samba |
| 04:04.54 | emesa | buu: just thought I read that windows can't write to LFS. That fat is necessary to have windows write to it |
| 04:05.06 | abrotman | emesa: /msg dpkg explore2fs |
| 04:05.12 | _Sam-- | in mkinitrd.conf if i just say busybox=yes, that is all i need for that? |
| 04:05.16 | buu | emesa: How is your windows box directly connected to the hard drive? |
| 04:05.17 | _Sam-- | or whatever that option is |
| 04:05.27 | kapil | _Sam--: depends on the shell. quite often only "dash" --- a small posix shell --- is available, not bash. |
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| 04:06.47 | emesa | buu: it isn't... |
| 04:06.48 | kapil | _Sam--: but you need to get/build busybox. "busybox --help" will list all the commands that it has pre-packaged. if you need more you will need busybox-src and compile others in. |
| 04:07.05 | _Sam-- | got it |
| 04:07.08 | emesa | but when abrotman asked the bot, didn't it say "at your own risk" meaning it's not the correct way? |
| 04:07.14 | abrotman | emesa: smbfs + ext3 will work just fine |
| 04:07.24 | abrotman | emesa: windows will never know that it's ext3 .. |
| 04:07.33 | _Sam-- | made new img..lemme see if it has it |
| 04:07.44 | buu | emesa: So who cares if the windows box can natively read and write to it? |
| 04:07.45 | emesa | lol |
| 04:07.49 | kspath | windows cant handle the truth |
| 04:08.05 | jjazz | emesa: samba really is the best way. samba + vfat if you think you might later mount the drive in a win box, but ext3 otherwise. |
| 04:08.07 | emesa | as long as my data maintains its integrity, I'd prefer ext3, as it's journalling |
| 04:08.26 | abrotman | emesa: isn't it on an external USB HDD ? |
| 04:08.31 | kspath | emesa: you made backups? |
| 04:08.31 | emesa | yup |
| 04:08.41 | emesa | ks: nothing on the ext right now |
| 04:08.44 | abrotman | emesa: and you trust your data to a USB HDD that you're going to run .. all the time ? |
| 04:08.44 | emesa | so I don't mind wiping it |
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| 04:09.15 | emesa | it's a backup, which I will backup once a month to cd or dvd |
| 04:09.23 | emesa | and all the stuff on there will also be on my win box |
| 04:09.36 | emesa | so if it fails - as long as everything doesn't fail ;) |
| 04:09.48 | _Sam-- | kapil / kyncani : THANKS ...busybox is what i needed |
| 04:09.56 | _Sam-- | it worked perfect |
| 04:10.01 | buu | Anyone know anything about a restricted-modules package? |
| 04:10.31 | Jeeves_Moss | dpkg: one more thing. how do you mount a remote machine's drive? (or samba share), then how do you access it on the local machine? I'm trying to do a linux box to linux box Xfer |
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| 04:10.49 | ke6isf | Jeeves_Moss: ...dpkg is a bot. |
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| 04:10.59 | buu | Jeeves_Moss: nfs magic! |
| 04:11.09 | boxy | hey what package do i need for x? (untested) |
| 04:11.13 | mrmistik1 | does anyone have an idea where I may be able to find a package for kdelibs4-dev-3.4.1-1 ? |
| 04:11.18 | gravity | boxy: x-window-system |
| 04:11.23 | kapil | buu: you're talking about ubuntu again :) |
| 04:11.23 | abrotman | !sdn |
| 04:11.23 | dpkg | i heard sdn is go to http://snapshot.debian.net to get older packages. Almost every single package since somewhere in 2002 is here. year 2004 is laregly lost because of harddisk problem. |
| 04:11.29 | michal_ | hi. sorry to ask this but I sem to have forgoten it for the millionth time. if i want to use `find . -name .DS_Store` and then use rm on each of the results (eventhose with spacs) how would I go about it? |
| 04:11.34 | boxy | hah kay thanks <3 |
| 04:11.40 | Jeeves_Moss | ke6isf: I know. you've been here when I've been in this channel before. I just figured bothering the bot insted of every one else would be easier. |
| 04:11.53 | gravity | michal_: find . -name '.DS_STORE' | xargs rm |
| 04:11.57 | boxy | gravity btw for fairly new packages what do i want? |
| 04:11.58 | ke6isf | Jeeves_Moss: =o.o= |
| 04:12.03 | mrmistik1 | I'm building a deb package and am lost in the sauce without it |
| 04:12.04 | b0xy | boxy stole my nick |
| 04:12.06 | gravity | boxy: What? |
| 04:12.19 | gravity | mrmistik1: What's the problem? |
| 04:12.20 | Jeeves_Moss | ke6isf: any ideas on what I want to do? |
| 04:12.20 | boxy | im sorry boxy i've had this registered for quiet some time now |
| 04:12.20 | ke6isf | michal_: rm -f `find . -name .DS_Store` |
| 04:12.24 | ke6isf | Jeeves_Moss: Nope. |
| 04:12.26 | boxy | gravity like theres sid etc |
| 04:12.32 | buu | kapil: Not my fault, stupid friends. |
| 04:12.32 | boxy | b0xy over a year at least |
| 04:12.41 | _Sam-- | so kapil from within the initrd environment, i can mount up anything i want? and then when the real boot happens it all gets undone? |
| 04:12.45 | gravity | boxy: sid is the newest but sid also breaks |
| 04:12.48 | b0xy | boxy: hehe I'm new. hadn't seen you around though so I ddin't know |
| 04:12.50 | mrmistik1 | gravity, problem is I cant find that version in any of the ropos |
| 04:12.54 | boxy | b0xy its cool |
| 04:13.01 | ke6isf | !tell b0xy -about nickserv |
| 04:13.02 | gravity | mrmistik1: What are you talking about? |
| 04:13.08 | boxy | gravity so whats a good route to go |
| 04:13.13 | Jeeves_Moss | ke6isf: that sucks. I need to figure out how to "link" directories to my Samba home dir, and how to do box to box Xfers |
| 04:13.13 | boxy | i dont want ancient stuff. |
| 04:13.14 | boxy | :P |
| 04:13.19 | abrotman | !tell mrmistik1 about sdn |
| 04:13.20 | boxy | unstable fine? |
| 04:13.23 | gravity | boxy: Depends on your needs. What do you want the machine for? |
| 04:13.26 | b0xy | ke6isf: ok? anythin in particular I'm supposed to learn from that? |
| 04:13.27 | boxy | desktop |
| 04:13.35 | gravity | boxy: unstable is fine if you're willing to learn how to deal with breakages on your own |
| 04:13.39 | gravity | boxy: Because they happen |
| 04:13.43 | ke6isf | b0xy: Yeah. Nickserv. How to register a nick. |
| 04:13.57 | boxy | gravity understandable, i dont care so much for "bleeding edge" just recent. |
| 04:14.00 | gravity | boxy: Alternately, there's testing but that also has breakages although they're of a different class |
| 04:14.08 | gravity | boxy: Finally, there's sarge with backports from backports.org |
| 04:14.16 | kapil | _Sam--: after you (say) mount your "real root" in /mnt you usually do. "cd /mnt; pivot_root . initrd; exec sbin/init < dev/console > dev/console 2>&1'. have a look at the end of initrd's /sbin/init. |
| 04:14.20 | boxy | so whats newer unstable or testing? |
| 04:14.25 | gravity | boxy: backports.org doesn't have everything backported though, since those have to be done manually, so you have to cope |
| 04:14.27 | b0xy | ke6isf: I'm already regged |
| 04:14.29 | gravity | boxy: Unstable is newer |
| 04:14.31 | ke6isf | b0xy: Ah. |
| 04:14.33 | boxy | ah. |
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| 04:14.50 | michal_ | ke6isf: of course that doesn't work when there are spaces |
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| 04:15.01 | jansel001 | hi |
| 04:15.02 | ke6isf | michal_: Ah, good point. |
| 04:15.08 | jansel001 | Here can speak in spanish |
| 04:15.14 | ke6isf | !tell jansel001 -about es |
| 04:15.16 | gravity | boxy: Remember, if you're using something other than stable you're going to have to learn to deal with certain classes of problems on your own |
| 04:15.25 | _Sam-- | im sorry to ask so many questions...but how you make the initial filesystem (ext2) on the ramdisk? i need mkfs.ext2 in the initrd.img? |
| 04:15.46 | michal_ | gravity: thanks but your suggeston also doesn't work with spaces |
| 04:15.52 | boxy | gravity, understandable |
| 04:16.15 | boxy | stable doesn't have xorg it still uses xfree doesn't it? |
| 04:16.15 | gravity | michal_: Huh? |
| 04:16.16 | ke6isf | michal_: Perhaps a for loop? |
| 04:16.20 | gravity | boxy: Yes |
| 04:16.26 | jansel001 | Spanish |
| 04:16.29 | jjazz | !es |
| 04:16.29 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 04:16.29 | gravity | !es |
| 04:16.30 | boxy | So it uses xfree? |
| 04:16.35 | jansel001 | can speak in spanish |
| 04:16.36 | gravity | boxy: Stable does, yes |
| 04:16.45 | kapil | _Sam--: with newer kernels you can use "tmpfs" instead of a ramdisk. if you have enough memory+swap you can create a large tmpfs. the advantage. you don't need mke2fs. |
| 04:16.48 | boxy | oh okay thanks im just tryin to get an idea on how old the packages are etc |
| 04:16.53 | ke6isf | jansel001: We just told you. No habla espanol aqui. Go to #debian-es. |
| 04:17.02 | jjazz | jansel001: Usted quiere #debian-es. |
| 04:17.10 | Dewi | can anyone remind me what it is I have to do to insert samba into my system's name resolution process so that netbios nameing "just works"? |
| 04:17.12 | kapil | _Sam--: "tmpfs" is just a simple layer over VFS so it doesn't need "making". |
| 04:17.14 | jansel001 | ok sorry |
| 04:17.21 | mo1991_ | anyone heard anything on firefox not printing correctly - is this a debian thing or firefox in general - does testing or sid debian do this too? |
| 04:17.30 | _Sam-- | i see isee...you are very patient...THANK YOU! |
| 04:17.34 | jansel001 | I have Ubuntu |
| 04:17.49 | jansel001 | i have a problem in me java |
| 04:17.54 | michal_ | gravity: the usage of xargs you suggested to me a couple of minutes ago |
| 04:17.54 | Dewi | mo1991_: web pages in general often print pretty badly |
| 04:17.57 | gravity | jansel001: #ubuntu |
| 04:17.58 | Dewi | jansel001: see #ubuntu |
| 04:17.59 | ke6isf | Is there an #ubuntu-es? |
| 04:18.09 | gravity | michal_: Oh, right. Hrm... ok |
| 04:18.15 | jansel001 | thank you |
| 04:18.20 | gravity | ke6isf: Who cares? :-) |
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| 04:18.23 | jjazz | mo1991_: firefox just prints via lpr |
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| 04:18.39 | ke6isf | gravity: Heh =^^= |
| 04:18.55 | michal_ | i don't understand why something seemingly so simple ALWAYS seems near impossible :/ even after I've figured it out 100 times |
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| 04:19.24 | K_Dallas | Hi guys! I read about dyne:bolic (http://dynebolic.org/) on /. today, downloaded it and boot from it and got this question: what have i to change in debian to get at least the same speed on launching programs and .. as I get from a live dynebolic distro? (knoppix does not offer the same speed) thanks |
| 04:19.27 | boxy | whats the package for nvidia drivers? |
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| 04:20.52 | _Sam-- | kapil: /sbin/init in initrd.img gets run before the scripts in the /scripts dir? |
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| 04:21.03 | _Sam-- | er that is the last thing to get run? |
| 04:21.36 | comein | compiled program has more performance? |
| 04:21.42 | Dewi | michal_: if you want every filename character including spaces to work with xargs, you basically need to separate them with zeroes and use -0 |
| 04:22.13 | michal_ | dewi: i SWEAR i tried that already. let me verify |
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| 04:22.36 | emesa | when reformatting the external hd, do I create logical or prinary partition? |
| 04:22.46 | jeebes | hi people |
| 04:23.15 | jeebes | can anyone hear me, or do I need to register my name? |
| 04:23.18 | michal_ | Dewi: yeah.. it sticks the entire list of results into one big string with \n |
| 04:23.21 | emesa | I see ya jeebes |
| 04:23.23 | _Sam-- | nevermind! |
| 04:23.25 | michal_ | s instead of seperate items |
| 04:23.26 | jeebes | ah cool, thx |
| 04:23.31 | _Sam-- | the scripts get run from /sbin/init |
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| 04:23.53 | boxy | are the nvidia drivers in apt? |
| 04:23.59 | Dewi | michal_: if you have just one line, paste it. Otherwise query me. |
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| 04:24.15 | jshriver_ | greetings.. |
| 04:24.19 | Dewi | michal_: your command I mean |
| 04:24.23 | jshriver_ | why would a package that seems to be available not show up in apt-cache search? |
| 04:24.44 | jjazz | jshriver_: in what sense is the package available? |
| 04:24.46 | Dewi | jshriver_: because you didn't update? |
| 04:25.00 | kapil | jshriver_: check /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 04:25.46 | michal_ | dewi: doesn't seem to be working |
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| 04:27.02 | jshriver__ | man the WRT54G sucks.. grr.. |
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| 04:27.04 | Dewi | michal_: open a query to me and paste your command |
| 04:27.19 | jshriver__ | anyway... :) why would a package not show up in apt-cache search when it is in the pool |
| 04:27.40 | jshriver__ | trying to install qgo |
| 04:28.07 | michal__ | rm: cannot remove `./Debtors/aip/Support/AIP Sydney/.DS_Store\n./Debtors/aip/Support/AIP Sydney/ISDN/.DS_Store\n./Debtors/aip/Support/AIP Mackay/.DS_Store\n./Debtors/aip/Support/AIP Mackay/Licenses/.DS_Store\n./Debtors/heat & control/.DS_Store\n./Debtors/heat & control/vpn/.DS_Store\n./.DS_Store\n./auspacific/Forms/telstra/Telstra Internet Direct - Internet Access Service Agreement_files/.DS_Store\n./auspacific/Leah Documents/Wotif_com Booking Confirmation- |
| 04:28.34 | michal__ | i don't even know where that pasted.. this ic client is whacked |
| 04:28.35 | Dewi | michal_: that was a bit long. But anyway... it looks like you are using \0 with xargs |
| 04:28.47 | _smd_ | !win me |
| 04:28.47 | Dewi | michal_: but your input has no zeroes in it - it has \n |
| 04:28.48 | dpkg | Congratulations, _smd_! You have won second prize in a beauty contest! |
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| 04:29.17 | michal__ | dewi: what can i do to make it work? |
| 04:29.50 | Dewi | can xargs be configured to treat newlines as separator but NOT blanks? I don't know. |
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| 04:30.14 | _smd_ | !win me |
| 04:30.15 | dpkg | Congratulations, _smd_! You have won a one way ticket to Fire Island! |
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| 04:31.16 | _Sam-- | if something is mounted in the initrd , when the pivot_root happens, that will stay mounted on the real / filesystem? |
| 04:31.56 | stew | michal__: pipe the list into | while read a ; do rm $a ; done |
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| 04:32.26 | stew | err rm "$a" |
| 04:32.42 | michal__ | aha!! GOT IT! |
| 04:32.43 | michal__ | find . -name .DS_Store -print0 | xargs -0 rm |
| 04:32.50 | neofutur | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:32.50 | stew | or that |
| 04:32.57 | neofutur | is it non free ? |
| 04:33.01 | stew | neofutur: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 04:33.12 | EdLin | !why is vlc not in testing? |
| 04:33.12 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 04:33.34 | michal__ | stew: does the while lop handle spaces well? |
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| 04:33.37 | stew | neofutur: i believe it contains code protected by patents, and is therefore not in debian |
| 04:33.43 | neofutur | hum ok |
| 04:33.58 | stew | michal__: "read a" will read one line spaces and all into a variable named a |
| 04:34.10 | neofutur | in france we have free.fr tv which can work on the computer but need using vlc |
| 04:34.25 | neofutur | mplayer works but not so well |
| 04:34.27 | EdLin | stew: the Linux kernel is protected by patents too |
| 04:34.29 | EdLin | ;-) |
| 04:34.40 | neofutur | and include DRM stuff |
| 04:34.44 | michal__ | stew: thanks.. i had ner used the read shell command before |
| 04:34.51 | michal__ | never |
| 04:34.57 | EdLin | s/is/has code/ |
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| 04:35.46 | stew | EdLin: are you referring to firmware? |
| 04:35.55 | EdLin | stew: no, the kernel as a whole |
| 04:36.06 | stew | sure |
| 04:36.25 | EdLin | stew: a study was done that showed it violated over a hundred patents |
| 04:36.41 | EdLin | stew: you can't code today without violating patents... |
| 04:37.32 | neofutur | or even think with logic |
| 04:37.41 | neofutur | they're mad |
| 04:37.45 | neofutur | selling ideas for money |
| 04:37.57 | jjazz | EdLin: you have a link to that study? |
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| 04:38.20 | EdLin | jjazz: it was on slashdot a few months ago |
| 04:38.20 | neofutur | even when illegal in europe OEB sold thousands of software patents |
| 04:39.04 | kspath | abrotman: got my cart down to 6,700 USD 206 tech books |
| 04:39.13 | buu | kspath: Woohoo. |
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| 04:39.36 | EdLin | kspath: what are you trying to do, break Amazon? |
| 04:40.15 | kspath | No, trying to make sure I have all the knowledge in hand that I need for my work |
| 04:40.25 | buu | So. "Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.15 on running kernel 2.4.27 in mkinitrdramfs" |
| 04:40.33 | gravity | 206 books? That's insane. |
| 04:40.45 | kspath | I already have a few hundred |
| 04:40.52 | buu | What obviousness am I missing? |
| 04:40.54 | gravity | Do you actually read them? |
| 04:41.03 | comein | gentoo stage 1 vs debian which has performance better more speed? |
| 04:41.16 | EdLin | !gentoosmite comein |
| 04:41.16 | buu | comein: You want os/2 |
| 04:41.22 | kspath | not all of them almost half are physics,chem,engineering, mathematics |
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| 04:41.55 | buu | All I'm trying to run is "apt-get install yaird" |
| 04:41.55 | kapil | buu: this is a bug in "yaird". you can probably install initramfs-tools instead and it might work. |
| 04:41.58 | buu | oh |
| 04:42.34 | buu | Woohoo |
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| 04:43.07 | Dewi | how can I add samba to my name resolution sequence in such a way that netbios names will be resolveable just like DNS names? |
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| 04:43.10 | CaT[tm] | is it possible to set the current directory for all crontabs of a given user? |
| 04:43.14 | _Sam-- | i think, but do not know for sure...if you are trying to interact with mysql aside from CDR/Realtime stuff...it might be easiest to use php to interface with mysql and have asterisk call the php from agi or something |
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| 04:43.16 | _Sam-- | er |
| 04:44.03 | mrmistik1 | Seems like the version of kdelibs4-dev i need is not on sdn either |
| 04:44.18 | mrmistik1 | argh, this is frustrating |
| 04:45.23 | Guerin | mrmistik1: http://feayn.org/~lewis/windows.gif |
| 04:46.08 | jjazz | Dewi: I do that in my dhcp server settings. |
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| 04:46.46 | mrmistik1 | Guerin, that sums it up nicely |
| 04:46.48 | boxy | what else do i need to install for make i have make, linux-headers, source |
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| 04:47.29 | mrmistik1 | I need to build one deb to be complete my project and so far no repos including sdn does not have the version |
| 04:47.32 | jjazz | Dewi: I currently have 2 debian boxes, 1 ubuntu and 2 Win XP boxes. They can all resolve each other no problem, but that's something my dhcp daemon does, not samba. |
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| 04:47.59 | mrmistik1 | I also cant afford to upgrade kde at this point or everything else I've done will be broken |
| 04:48.15 | boxy | ah i dont hvae kernel-headers. |
| 04:48.39 | Dewi | jjazz: dhcp daemons do not resolve names |
| 04:48.44 | boxy | and apperantly thats not all. |
| 04:48.59 | jjazz | Dewi: Right. My dhcp server is also my dns server... dnsmasq |
| 04:49.12 | Dewi | jjazz: mine isn't. Mine is a hardware device incapable of naming. |
| 04:49.38 | jjazz | Dewi: Ah. That would be an obstacle I hadn't considered. Maybe Samba is your solution after all. |
| 04:49.41 | neofutur | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 04:49.41 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
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| 04:49.49 | neofutur | this is great |
| 04:49.49 | Dewi | I want to be able to run netbios names via samba to attempt resolution |
| 04:49.54 | neofutur | FAQ on IRC ;) |
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| 04:50.19 | Guerin | Dewi: #samba |
| 04:50.20 | jjazz | Dewi: I only use Samba to serve files, so I don't know about netbios names and all that. |
| 04:50.28 | Guerin | Dewi: this has nothing whatsoever to do with debian |
| 04:50.37 | Dewi | Guerin: from memory, it does |
| 04:50.44 | ootput | can any of you recommend a livecd that'd be able to restore a lvm2 volume on a raid1 array on a pair of sata disks? |
| 04:50.53 | Dewi | Guerin: because I have a dim memory that the samba package is split up in debian |
| 04:51.09 | Dewi | Guerin: but I can't remember what the other part is called, that can proxy name resolution |
| 04:51.15 | boxy | what are all the packages i need to build a module? |
| 04:51.21 | Dewi | or I could be thinking of fedora |
| 04:51.29 | Dewi | point is, it *is* something that differes between distros |
| 04:51.30 | liable | !b-e boxy |
| 04:51.31 | dpkg | boxy: Sounds like you need to install build-essential. |
| 04:51.36 | _Sam-- | how long has asterisk been able to talk to mysql directly with MYSQL()? |
| 04:51.42 | _Sam-- | er dang it, wrong win sorry |
| 04:51.44 | lunitik | Dewi: 'samba' for server, 'smbclient' for users... both depend on 'samba-common' |
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| 04:52.06 | Dewi | lunitik: no, something else again. I might be thinking of fedora here. My memory is terrible. I'm writing it all down this time :P |
| 04:52.07 | boxy | ahh thanks liable i tryed it earlier but i added a s to the end so it didnt work |
| 04:52.09 | jjazz | Dewi: Samba runs as smbd and nmbd. Is that what you're referring to? I think they're provided for in the same package, though. |
| 04:52.18 | liable | np |
| 04:52.33 | Dewi | jjazz: no, I'm talking about another thing that can plug into the name resolution sequence |
| 04:52.51 | Dewi | where is name resolution configured? other than /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 04:53.20 | ootput | what's this other thing? |
| 04:53.28 | boxy | liable could i be missing anything else it? it trys to enter /lib/modules/kernel/build and then exits |
| 04:53.44 | jjazz | Dewi: AFAIK resolv.conf points to a nameserver and that's about it. I could be wrong tho. My knowledge in that area isn't deep. |
| 04:53.44 | Guerin | Dewi: nowhere, unless a particular program has its own way of doing things, in which case ask the documentation for that program |
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| 04:54.41 | liable | boxy: you need kernel-headers |
| 04:55.12 | boxy | got that too. |
| 04:55.40 | liable | boxy: is there a link from build to the headers? |
| 04:56.00 | jjazz | Dewi: If it's not many clients and it's a fairly static network, maybe /etc/hosts can do what you're looking to do? (You can do it on Win boxes too) |
| 04:56.17 | boxy | where are the headers located? |
| 04:56.20 | jjazz | Dewi: It's not netbios resolution, but it might solve your problem. |
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| 04:56.30 | liable | boxy: /usr/src |
| 04:57.01 | boxy | ah thanks |
| 04:57.01 | Dewi | jjazz: I know. I'd rather have it just work though. |
| 04:57.01 | boxy | :) |
| 04:57.25 | Dewi | jjazz: every time I ask this question, for debian or fedora, it always takes ages to find anyone who will even admit that it's possible |
| 04:57.37 | Dewi | jjazz: it is very easy to do, and I really wish I wrote it down last time |
| 04:57.53 | jjazz | Dewi: I don't doubt it can be done. I just don't know how to do it. |
| 04:58.02 | zinx | Dewi: nsswitch.conf or so |
| 04:58.14 | tyler_ | why cant i com[ile mplayer codecs... and where must i untar the tarball in(which directory)? |
| 04:58.18 | Dewi | zinx: ooh |
| 04:58.36 | Dewi | zinx: now THAT is the file I was trying to think of |
| 04:58.48 | Dewi | zinx: thank you |
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| 04:59.28 | Dewi | jjazz: yeah. me neither. I'll be writing it down this time :) |
| 04:59.41 | Dewi | jjazz: then I only have to worry about losing the place I wrote it down |
| 04:59.46 | jjazz | Dewi: put it somewhere google can find it |
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| 05:00.33 | Phroziac | is there a lastspoke bot here? |
| 05:00.41 | neofutur | !why is vlc not in testing |
| 05:00.41 | dpkg | vlc is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=vlc |
| 05:01.12 | Dewi | jjazz: I might do that. |
| 05:01.23 | Guerin | Phroziac: wtf is one of those in english? |
| 05:01.31 | Dewi | !seen Guerin |
| 05:01.31 | dpkg | guerin is currently on #debian (1d 6m 55s). Has said a total of 146 messages. Is idling for 8s |
| 05:01.36 | Dewi | like that? |
| 05:01.59 | Phroziac | !lastspoke Guerin |
| 05:02.25 | Phroziac | nope. :) |
| 05:02.35 | Phroziac | Dewi: it's a bseen command to see when they actually said something last. |
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| 05:02.35 | Dewi | !seen dpkg |
| 05:02.35 | dpkg | Dewi: i haven't seen 'dpkg' |
| 05:02.37 | Guerin | Phroziac: well, it depends |
| 05:02.38 | Dewi | hehe |
| 05:02.40 | Guerin | seen can do that |
| 05:02.45 | Guerin | !seen g4lt |
| 05:02.45 | dpkg | g4lt <galt@g4lt.base.supporter.pdpc> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 460d 4h 26m 2s ago, saying: 'toresbe actually no, policy states taht no package needs to depend on anything on base'. |
| 05:02.49 | Dewi | Phroziac: isn't that what the "idle" in !seen did? |
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| 05:03.25 | noiesmo | hey all looking for a media player that will handle streaming mp3 audio from mp3act |
| 05:03.27 | Phroziac | the person i'm wondering about hasn't talked in over a month, so regular seen wouldn't tell me much |
| 05:03.30 | Dewi | Phroziac: might have been a server-wide idle. I don't have a spare clone to check. |
| 05:03.32 | Phroziac | (furrywolf) |
| 05:03.39 | Dewi | !seen furrywolf |
| 05:03.39 | dpkg | furrywolf <~randyg@ip68-105-23-171.hu.sd.cox.net> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 167d 1h 16m 36s ago, saying: 'mdh: none of the available tools output windoze-linked binaries with windoze libs, etc? :P'. |
| 05:03.49 | Dewi | looks like a lastspoke to me |
| 05:03.53 | Phroziac | wow. he must've stopped coming here anyway. |
| 05:04.06 | Phroziac | anyway, thanks. :P |
| 05:04.09 | Dewi | :P |
| 05:04.13 | Guerin | yeh |
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| 05:05.59 | Phroziac | by the way, lastspoke is a command on bseen. |
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| 05:06.41 | nichos | Hi all, im using kde on a twin-view setup, but my icons are locked on the wrong display, any ideas? |
| 05:08.17 | jjazz | nichos: xorg? |
| 05:08.27 | nichos | jjazz no, x11 |
| 05:08.49 | jjazz | nichos: dunno then... never did multihead on x11 |
| 05:09.14 | nichos | i think it must be a setting in KDE, theres a setting for the taskbar |
| 05:09.31 | gravity | ... |
| 05:09.41 | gravity | xorg *is* x11 |
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| 05:09.47 | gravity | Why do so many people make that mistake? |
| 05:09.48 | kspath | Professional Linux Programming by Neil Matthew and Richard Stones, et al |
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| 05:09.54 | kspath | to outdated |
| 05:09.56 | kspath | ? |
| 05:10.07 | gravity | kspath: All the info is in the docs on your system or on the internet |
| 05:11.15 | kspath | that is what I figured plus things are modified even if the book was new |
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| 05:11.23 | jjazz | nichos: I haven't used KDE in years, so I don't know how that changes things, but usually one screen gets designated primary or crt1 or whatever. That's the one the icons end up on. |
| 05:11.42 | jjazz | nichos: And that gets determined in xorg.conf, I believe. |
| 05:11.48 | pdf4 | What's the best audio editor? I need to crop mp3 and join some parts (no KDE please - not enough HD space) |
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| 05:13.39 | Guerin | pdf4: you want to use something like mpgtx, because it can cut and join without decoding and re-encoding the file |
| 05:13.56 | Guerin | pdf4: if you de/reencode, you'll lose a ton of quality. |
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| 05:14.09 | nite613 | Where do I get the apt gpg key for http://http.us.debian.org etch? |
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| 05:14.36 | Guerin | nite613: from the /topic |
| 05:14.36 | w00tz | kaiten.c:60:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.37 | w00tz | kaiten.c:61:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.37 | w00tz | kaiten.c:62:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:14.42 | pdf4 | Guerin: what about audacity? |
| 05:14.42 | w00tz | why do i get them errors ? |
| 05:14.51 | Guerin | pdf4: de/recodes |
| 05:14.56 | w00tz | ? |
| 05:15.06 | Guerin | pdf4: but if you don't care about quality, sure, it's ok. Also ardour. |
| 05:15.32 | weeeeeeeee | ok |
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| 05:15.48 | weeeeeeeee | i think u didnt see what i typed.. |
| 05:15.48 | weeeeeeeee | kaiten.c:60:19: error: errno.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.48 | weeeeeeeee | kaiten.c:61:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.48 | weeeeeeeee | kaiten.c:62:20: error: stdlib.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:15.49 | weeeeeeeee | why do i get them errors ? |
| 05:15.59 | pdf4 | weeeeeeeee: what are you trying to compile? |
| 05:16.03 | weeeeeeeee | yes sir |
| 05:16.11 | Guerin | weeeeeeeee: because you're too stupid to install build-essential before trying to build stuff. |
| 05:16.21 | weeeeeeeee | yeah aight dickhead |
| 05:16.24 | weeeeeeeee | i just got my box |
| 05:16.28 | weeeeeeeee | frist time on linux |
| 05:16.34 | Guerin | !wayc |
| 05:16.37 | Guerin | !wayc weeeeeeeee |
| 05:16.38 | dpkg | weeeeeeeee: Why are you compiling instead of using apt-get? |
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| 05:16.47 | weeeeeeeee | apt-get ? |
| 05:16.52 | pureone | lol |
| 05:16.53 | weeeeeeeee | im compleing it to a exe. |
| 05:16.57 | Guerin | !fundamentals |
| 05:16.57 | dpkg | You have recieved this message because you have shown yourself to be ignorant of some of the fundamentals of *nix and/or Debian. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" howto at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/index.html. Then, read the Debian Reference at http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. This may help you to attain what others sometimes refer to as "a Clue". |
| 05:17.09 | zinx | Guerin: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=1&url=http%3A//packetstormsecurity.nl/irc/kaiten.c&ei=QkPDQ-bVLtCwaObZ1bQP&sig2=TfH9-i8IhC5HQ8HNXfjw6w |
| 05:17.10 | weeeeeeeee | ? |
| 05:17.11 | Guerin | weeeeeeeee: there are no exe's in debian |
| 05:17.17 | weeeeeeeee | who cares |
| 05:17.18 | zinx | Guerin: i.e., because he's a f'n stupid packet kiddie |
| 05:17.27 | Guerin | zinx: oh. |
| 05:17.36 | gravity | My finger... it itches so |
| 05:17.37 | Guerin | weeeeeeeee: you're a fucktard. |
| 05:17.38 | weeeeeeeee | so what do i have to download ? |
| 05:17.49 | weeeeeeeee | ur a lil faggot with ur panties |
| 05:17.54 | Guerin | nice |
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| 05:18.01 | buu | awhh |
| 05:18.02 | zinx | :D |
| 05:18.05 | buu | I wanted to poke him. |
| 05:18.13 | zinx | gravity: watch out d00d he'll hax yuo |
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| 05:18.37 | Guerin | grrr |
| 05:18.41 | Guerin | firefox is stupid |
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| 05:18.48 | Guerin | it wants to open a .c file in less |
| 05:18.52 | zinx | sorry for including the google portion, by the way |
| 05:18.56 | Guerin | instead of just displaying it as text |
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| 05:19.16 | pdf4 | zinx: what makes you say weeeee is a packet kiddie? |
| 05:19.38 | zinx | pdf4: because he was trying to compile kaiten.c, and that's a DoS program.. |
| 05:19.59 | zinx | pdf4: is that good enough? :) |
| 05:20.09 | pureone | zinx, how did you know he was trying to compile kaiten.c ? |
| 05:20.17 | zinx | pureone: because he said it. six times. |
| 05:20.27 | pdf4 | zinx: did he say that? |
| 05:20.28 | pureone | haha |
| 05:20.35 | zinx | pdf4: indeed he did. |
| 05:20.47 | zinx | pdf4: six times, as stated. see his error messages ;) |
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| 05:21.16 | zinx | pdf4: it's also interesting to cross-reference the kaiten.c i found with the error messages, if you're still somehow trying to defend him :/ |
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| 05:21.21 | pureone | ah never noticed the katien.c in the errors ;) |
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| 05:22.01 | pdf4 | good catch, I didn't notice the file name (neither was I familiar with it) |
| 05:22.10 | Guerin | well |
| 05:22.16 | Guerin | it would have come out anyway |
| 05:22.25 | zinx | pdf4: i was seeing which package he was trying to compile with google.. instead, i came up with that ;) |
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| 05:22.31 | nite613 | What does "folding" refer to in a text editor? |
| 05:22.35 | pdf4 | kiddies are our future |
| 05:22.52 | Guerin | zinx: you must be a skr1pT k1DD13 as well, since you know what that program does |
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| 05:23.05 | pureone | its the first result in google ;) |
| 05:23.07 | Guerin | oh |
| 05:23.10 | zinx | yes :) |
| 05:23.13 | Guerin | so you say ... |
| 05:23.33 | zinx | Guerin: note the link i pasted is the first link in google, even with the google redirect prefix on it :/ |
| 05:23.56 | pdf4 | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaiten |
| 05:24.05 | Guerin | zinx: that's just what you want me to believe .. you don't think someone like me will be fooled by that! |
| 05:24.25 | zinx | Guerin: \o/ |
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| 05:30.18 | SerajewelKS | gah, 'firefox -P' is broken with 1.5 |
| 05:30.44 | SerajewelKS | or the firefox shell script is broken, or something |
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| 05:31.42 | SerajewelKS | 'firefox -ProfileManager' doesn't even work :< |
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| 05:33.05 | ejofee | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
| 05:33.07 | SerajewelKS | can anyone with 1.5 confirm this? |
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| 05:33.33 | Kupal[] | anyone really good with netcat? |
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| 05:33.39 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 05:33.40 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 05:33.42 | Kupal[] | lol |
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| 05:33.47 | ke6isf | !lol |
| 05:33.47 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 05:33.53 | Kupal[] | hehehe |
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| 05:34.06 | ke6isf | !beer Kupal[] |
| 05:34.35 | Kupal[] | say i setup netcat to listen on a port, i telnet it i type " !lol and !anyone" can i have that logged somehow? |
| 05:35.08 | ohad | hi, can anyone recommend an open source applet /msger of sorts for a website to setup a bot? |
| 05:35.12 | Daedalus_ | Pipe the output of netcat to something...? |
| 05:35.30 | Kupal[] | duh :P |
| 05:35.32 | Kupal[] | thx |
| 05:35.47 | Kupal[] | i think it was right on the page.. my mind is buried in this cpp thing im haxoring.. |
| 05:35.51 | Daedalus_ | heh |
| 05:35.54 | Kupal[] | it should be as simply as nc –l –p 1234 >newfile |
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| 05:36.10 | Daedalus_ | pretty much |
| 05:36.58 | ppcthug | hello all, what programs do you guys reccomend for emulating dos and windows on debian? |
| 05:37.02 | blockd | Kupal[]: you can also use "tee" to still see what's going on while you redirect to a file... beats 'tail -f' and sync |
| 05:37.10 | buu | ppcthug: dosbox? |
| 05:38.06 | ppcthug | oh yea thats the one I used before I reinstalled debian |
| 05:38.20 | ppcthug | how does it compare to dosemu though? |
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| 05:39.07 | ke6isf | !dosemj |
| 05:39.09 | ke6isf | !dosemu |
| 05:39.09 | dpkg | hmm... dosemu is a DOS emulator for Linux. If you X, graphical DOS programs will be much easier to run than if you set up dosemu to do graphics at the console. Dosemu is kind of buggy and doesn't play games well |
| 05:39.25 | ke6isf | !dosbox |
| 05:39.46 | gravity | I <3 dosbox |
| 05:40.09 | ke6isf | heh, less than three =^^= |
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| 05:40.27 | bucky | ppcthug: what do you run on dosbox? |
| 05:40.39 | ppcthug | darn, I was hoping dosemu would run better because it was made for linux first |
| 05:40.47 | ppcthug | just a game called ascendancy |
| 05:40.56 | ppcthug | and its slow |
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| 05:41.31 | Frem | Hello. For some reason I cannot hold down more then two keys at a time and get input from a 3rd key though. This pretty much makes it nearly impossible to game. Any ideas how to fix? |
| 05:42.04 | ppcthug | even with frame skip set to maximum and different speed settings... though switching to kernel 2.6 and using nvidia drivers might make a difference... |
| 05:42.40 | neofutur | is there something like chkconfig in debian ? |
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| 05:42.46 | Guerin | !red hat crap |
| 05:42.54 | Guerin | err |
| 05:42.56 | Guerin | !red hat tools |
| 05:42.56 | dpkg | If you're a (former) Red Hat user looking for Red Hat Tools on debian, you won't find many. But: chkconfig={sysvconfig,sysv-rc-conf,rcconf,update-rc.d}; service=invoke-rc.d; kudzu=discover; rc.local=bootmisc; etc. |
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| 05:43.11 | Guerin | !factinfo red hat tools |
| 05:43.12 | dpkg | red hat tools -- created by Guerin <~magpie@220.123.169.70> at Fri Nov 26 22:52:07 2004 (409 days); it has been requested 27 times, last by stew at Thu Nov 10 09:48:32 2005. |
| 05:43.12 | bucky | ppcthug: which version of debian are you using/ |
| 05:43.20 | Guerin | rrr, someone edited it |
| 05:43.31 | ppcthug | sarge, just reinstalled it a week ago |
| 05:44.02 | neofutur | so no equivalent of chkconfig ? |
| 05:44.06 | neofutur | ;( |
| 05:44.07 | liable | ... |
| 05:44.19 | Guerin | neofutur: the above gives no less than FOUR |
| 05:44.32 | liable | neofutur: erm, read what dpkg just said |
| 05:44.40 | neofutur | i didnt understood this way |
| 05:44.44 | neofutur | ok i'll try one |
| 05:44.52 | staniel | I seem to be having some problems with gnome, the menu seems to be missing some applications... such as gedit and such |
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| 05:45.13 | staniel | is there a user setting that I can clear, without losing all my gnome application data, to correct this? |
| 05:45.51 | bucky | ppcthug: if staniel apt-cache show menu |
| 05:46.26 | sifi-x | Where is the exact URL to get Etch? |
| 05:46.37 | neofutur | sysvconfig seems perfect thanks |
| 05:46.39 | Guerin | sifi-x: on debian.org |
| 05:46.39 | ke6isf | !etch |
| 05:46.40 | dpkg | [etch] the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 05:47.02 | bucky | ppcthug: if it doesn't work out you might upgrade to testing and install the wine from winehq's repos http://winehq.org/site/download |
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| 05:47.53 | trend | I need to rename everything (including subdir and subdir of subdir).. rename/change all whitespaces.. and put in a - |
| 05:48.01 | BlackJudas | I'm trying to pin a specific version of lvm2 and it won't recognize it (the pinning), libdevmapper .. the current version is uber borked. I followed the instructions on http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-apt-get.en.html :/ Not working for me. What commands can I use to see what apt recognizes as being pinned? |
| 05:48.03 | trend | how can I do this? |
| 05:48.22 | liable | hrm, xfce plain refuses to start mplayer from the panel thingo. |
| 05:49.10 | ppcthug | bucky: what about apt-cache show menu? |
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| 05:49.55 | chou-chou | what kernel modules are needed for -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED for iptables to work ? |
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| 05:51.02 | bucky | ppcthug: nm it was an accident |
| 05:51.12 | bucky | ppcthug: http://linuxblogger.dyndns.org/weblog/index.php?/archives/79-Getting-Windows-only-websites-to-work-with-Linux.html |
| 05:51.13 | blockd | I thought that would be in /lib/iptables/... do you have iptable working at all? |
| 05:51.14 | ppcthug | oh ok |
| 05:51.19 | blockd | *iptables |
| 05:51.54 | bucky | ppcthug: is this the game? |
| 05:51.57 | bucky | http://www.logicfactory.com/games_ascendancy.htm |
| 05:52.07 | ppcthug | yea thats it |
| 05:52.13 | bucky | let me try it |
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| 05:52.43 | ppcthug | the ai sucks, but its always been one of my favorites |
| 05:52.46 | D3vIN | is debian in pieces? |
| 05:53.00 | kspath | what is a good assembler book? |
| 05:53.07 | bucky | ppcthug: The requested URL /ascdemo.zip was not found on this server. |
| 05:53.24 | ke6isf | D3vIN: mu. |
| 05:53.39 | ppcthug | bucky: its kinda an old game |
| 05:53.45 | D3vIN | ke6isf mu.? |
| 05:53.50 | bucky | !moo |
| 05:53.50 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 05:53.54 | ke6isf | !mu |
| 05:53.54 | dpkg | When asked by a monk if a dog had Buddha Nature, Joshu said "Mu." |
| 05:53.57 | neofutur | !factinfo seamonkey |
| 05:53.58 | dpkg | seamonkey -- created by \ifvoid <bas@warande1131.warande.uu.nl> at Mon Aug 14 17:04:58 2000 (1974 days); has not been requested yet. |
| 05:53.59 | BlackJudas | ppcthug, man I loved that game. |
| 05:54.04 | neofutur | hehe |
| 05:54.15 | neofutur | I tried factinfo before asking |
| 05:54.17 | ke6isf | D3vIN: What did you mean by "is debian in pieces?"? |
| 05:54.24 | neofutur | this IRCFAQ is great |
| 05:54.39 | neofutur | i hope seamonley will be included in testing |
| 05:54.43 | ke6isf | !beer neofutur |
| 05:54.54 | neofutur | 1.5 |
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| 05:55.14 | neofutur | :beer ke6isf |
| 05:55.30 | ke6isf | neofutur: wrong attention character. Try a ! instead. |
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| 05:55.49 | neofutur | I have to tell you all debian is much better than 4 years ago ;) |
| 05:55.49 | D3vIN | ke6isf, someone said in #mepis that debian is just falling apart meaning packages in everythings are just falling apart |
| 05:55.55 | staniel | could someone help me determine why gedit isn't showing up in the menu? |
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| 05:56.57 | ke6isf | D3vIN: Sounds like meaningless drama to me. |
| 05:57.20 | ke6isf | D3vIN: Aside from an underpowered box, I'm having no trouble at all. |
| 05:57.44 | bucky | D3vIN: debian has always come in lots of parts called packages |
| 05:57.59 | D3vIN | ke6isf ok good. because im switching back to debian from gentoo |
| 05:58.15 | ke6isf | D3vIN: I suppose by what bucky says, yes, it is in pieces of sorts, but so is a puzzle. |
| 05:58.29 | ke6isf | D3vIN: How long have you been on gentoo? |
| 05:58.31 | neofutur | !factinfo num pad |
| 05:58.32 | dpkg | neofutur: there's no such factoid as num pad |
| 05:58.35 | Guerin | debian has always been in pieces |
| 05:58.38 | neofutur | !factinfo num fr |
| 05:58.38 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as num fr, neofutur |
| 05:58.43 | D3vIN | ke6isf 3 years |
| 05:58.47 | ke6isf | !tell neofutur -about msg the bot |
| 05:58.54 | LinuxNIT | how do i use chmod to make a folder readable by the world? |
| 05:59.03 | Guerin | as opposed to other OSen which are monolithical |
| 05:59.05 | ke6isf | D3vIN: In that time, sarge went stable in June. Etch is the new testing. But you probably knew that. =^_^= |
| 05:59.08 | bucky | D3vIN: why would you want to get away from gentoo? |
| 05:59.14 | Guerin | LinuxNIT: info coreutils chmod |
| 05:59.15 | ke6isf | Guerin: Yes, but so is a brick wall |
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| 06:00.13 | D3vIN | bucky it's a pain most the time. mainly when i update all my config files change and its just annoying. |
| 06:00.35 | bucky | that's a common complaint with gentoo |
| 06:00.49 | LinuxNIT | thanks Guerin |
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| 06:00.59 | Guerin | LinuxNIT: you're welcome |
| 06:00.59 | bucky | D3vIN: do you have an extra partition somewhere? |
| 06:01.30 | nichos | Hi all, im having trouble w/apt. I keep getting an error saying its trying to overwrite a .pc file, which is also in another package apt-get -f install isnt working, any ideas? |
| 06:01.48 | D3vIN | bucky i have a extra partition for storage , but thats about it |
| 06:03.15 | bucky | D3vIN: if it's available and empty and at least a couple of gigs.. you might put a installation of debian on it and try it.. that way you won't have to go thru the pain of reinstalling gentoo if you want to go back |
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| 06:05.03 | neofutur | are there binary grsec kernels contributed ? |
| 06:05.05 | staniel | it seems that gedit has its /usr/share/menu/gedit entry, buts its still not being displayed in the menu |
| 06:05.17 | D3vIN | bucky, I don't find it much of a pain as much as it use to be, but dual booting debian and gentoo don't sound like a bad idea |
| 06:05.29 | liable | hah |
| 06:05.34 | liable | oops |
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| 06:06.00 | bucky | D3vIN: i'd get the netinstall iso and get a minimal install on it and upgrade to etch.. that way you'll have more up to date packages |
| 06:06.14 | bucky | !d-i |
| 06:06.14 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 06:06.58 | D3vIN | bucky ok. etch = testing or unstable. it's been awhile since i had debian installed |
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| 06:07.51 | liable | testing |
| 06:08.02 | bucky | D3vIN: etch is testing |
| 06:08.25 | D3vIN | bucky ok |
| 06:08.31 | bucky | D3vIN: do you have any exotic hardware? |
| 06:09.07 | bucky | D3vIN: the installer kernel is only 2.6.8 so it might not have driver support for somethings |
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| 06:10.54 | neofutur | dpkg: you know nothing about grsec ;( |
| 06:11.15 | D3vIN | bucky No, i should be alright, i have pretty simple hardware, my usb stick my not be supported |
| 06:11.47 | bucky | D3vIN: check the installer page and the errata, you should be fine |
| 06:12.08 | stew | !grsecurity |
| 06:12.08 | dpkg | i guess grsecurity is http://www.grsecurity.net/features.php http://www.securityfocus.com/infocus/1551 |
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| 06:13.00 | sifi-x | is stable sarge avalible for AMD64, I cant find it at http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ |
| 06:13.20 | stew | sifi-x: there is an unofficial release /msg dpkg amd64 |
| 06:13.43 | stew | sifi-x: etch will be the first to have official amd64 support |
| 06:13.47 | sifi-x | stew, ok |
| 06:13.56 | sifi-x | stew, I know |
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| 06:14.48 | sifi-x | stew, so I should avoid using stable sarge on AMD64? |
| 06:15.05 | sifi-x | stew, for a server |
| 06:15.27 | eeyore- | i'm pretty disillusioned about commercial linuxes |
| 06:15.31 | bucky | i use sid on amd64 and have had no problems |
| 06:15.37 | stew | sifi-x: i don't think you should necessarily avoid it |
| 06:15.46 | bucky | sarge amd64 should be good |
| 06:15.53 | sifi-x | ok |
| 06:16.00 | bucky | sifi-x: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 06:16.17 | eeyore- | suse 9 for x86_64 has many unresolved dependencies errors ... it's been five years and they still haven't mastered the art of package management? RH is no better ... OK, so they support 64-bit, but, so does gentoo |
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| 06:18.01 | bucky | debian amd64 is awesome.. but, mozilla in 64 bit wasn't too cool.. the best way was to chroot the 32 bit mozilla.. it was more stable and you could use your flash or other plugins |
| 06:18.01 | qip|Virusmaster | can someone of you tell me, how i can read one line of a file with bash? say i want line 3 for example... |
| 06:18.39 | eeyore- | qip|Virusmaster: that'd be stupid in bash ... head/tail |
| 06:18.46 | bucky | konqueror with DCOP is supposed to work across the chroot for plugins.. but i didn |
| 06:18.52 | bucky | t try that |
| 06:19.36 | qip|Virusmaster | eeyore-, well, actually i want to carry out a action on every line in a file... the problem is, thtat some lines contain whitespaces. |
| 06:19.47 | eeyore- | qip|Virusmaster: awk |
| 06:20.10 | buu | perl! |
| 06:20.27 | eeyore- | anything but bash |
| 06:20.35 | caphuso | qip|Virusmaster: sed -n '3{p;q}' file |
| 06:20.38 | qip|Virusmaster | eeyore-, also tried that... or can you tell me whats wrong with: awk -F '\n' 'print $1' ... this should give me line 1... right? |
| 06:21.41 | eeyore- | novel :-) |
| 06:21.52 | qip|Virusmaster | :) |
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| 06:22.27 | qip|Virusmaster | ahm awk -F '\n' '{print $1}' |
| 06:22.40 | eeyore- | qip|Virusmaster: awk/sed, start thinking about { } or \<pattern> { ... } construct |
| 06:22.49 | eeyore- | night |
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| 06:24.00 | _Sam-- | can anyone help with an initrd script that would load /var to ram when it boots? |
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| 06:24.01 | qip|Virusmaster | mh, isnt that line right? |
| 06:24.13 | _Sam-- | i cant figure it out |
| 06:24.16 | Dewi | what's a sane way to configure which init.d scripts run on my system startup? |
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| 06:24.57 | Dewi | fedora has some system-config-services type applet |
| 06:25.03 | stew | Dewi: rcconf |
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| 06:25.20 | qip|Virusmaster | *sigh* i will work with the sed line then |
| 06:25.39 | stew | qip|Virusmaster: /msg dpkg awk cheats |
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| 06:27.47 | qip|Virusmaster | thanks stew |
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| 06:33.20 | BlackFrog | I'm having problems running debootstrap |
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| 06:34.26 | BlackFrog | I've tried 0.3.3_all aswell as 0.2.45-0.2_i386 and both give me errors that /usr/lib/debootstrap/pkgdetails are not found |
| 06:35.02 | BlackFrog | I'm following the "install from *nix" instructions located here http://www.us.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apcs04.html.en |
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| 06:37.39 | Azar | BlackFrog it might depend on what Debian distro repositories apt is pointing at |
| 06:38.13 | liable | BlackFrog: can you paste all of your work so far to a paster? |
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| 06:39.50 | SerajewelKS | y'know what'd be nifty? some daemon that monitors what files ever get read from, look at the ones that don't get read, figure out what packages they come from, and suggest a list of packages that you're not using and might want to consider removing. |
| 06:40.02 | Azar | to regulars here: the topic is so far up on top, for new visitors to catch with it, is scrolled up fast by the list of users, just a note |
| 06:40.35 | BlackFrog | liable: its all on a laptop booted from a floppy drive so no |
| 06:40.47 | BlackFrog | Azar: I've tried with 3 different mirror sites |
| 06:40.54 | liable | BlackFrog: why not just use a sarge floppy installer? |
| 06:41.50 | Azar | BlackFrog, I am not aware how experienced you are, just a hint: check the last four options at the end of links located in the /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:41.56 | Dewi | stew: thanks |
| 06:41.58 | SimonRaven | Azar: um, yeh? |
| 06:42.18 | Azar | they determine from where apt gets the packages, and what type of packages you get |
| 06:42.19 | BlackFrog | liable: where would I find such a floppy installer |
| 06:42.27 | liable | !sarge floppies |
| 06:42.27 | dpkg | i guess sarge floppies is http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/floppy/ or substitue your arch for i386 |
| 06:42.50 | ice_1963 | debian.org |
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| 06:43.00 | BlackFrog | thank you I'll try that |
| 06:43.06 | liable | yw |
| 06:43.07 | Azar | SimonRaven, I made that comment because many new visitors do not even get the chance to glance at the topic |
| 06:43.29 | BlackFrog | Azar: I'm not currently running debiant, hence have no /etc/apt/sources.lst |
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| 06:43.41 | Azar | BlackFrog, ah , my bad |
| 06:44.07 | BlackFrog | liable: would you know offhand if the sarge boot floppies support pcmcia network cards? |
| 06:44.29 | SimonRaven | Azar: so? they can run /topic or double click on something ... all this depends on the *client* |
| 06:44.45 | Azar | SimonRaven, right |
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| 06:44.54 | liable | BlackFrog: erm, its a 2.4 kernel, but depends on the chipset i guess. |
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| 06:45.32 | BlackFrog | liable: okay I'll try thanks |
| 06:45.53 | SimonRaven | !sarge floppies =~ s/substitue/substitute/ |
| 06:45.54 | dpkg | SimonRaven: OK |
| 06:46.00 | lilo | there'll be a small server restart in a few moments; affected users, about 1,300 |
| 06:46.11 | SimonRaven | weee |
| 06:46.16 | SimonRaven | hi lilo |
| 06:46.17 | liable | heh |
| 06:46.35 | Azar | thanks lilo |
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| 06:48.37 | glitch_ | ello all |
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| 06:52.14 | Azar | wow "99 bottles of beer" reached 864 languages! |
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| 06:54.32 | liable | !ping |
| 06:54.32 | dpkg | pong |
| 06:54.56 | Azar | I guess we waiting for the shutdown |
| 06:56.22 | liable | themolester: why you ping me? |
| 06:56.36 | lilo | hi SimonRaven |
| 06:56.39 | lilo | Azar: you're welcome |
| 06:56.47 | lilo | Azar: you're not affected |
| 06:56.50 | SimonRaven | :) |
| 06:56.55 | Azar | I noticed :) |
| 06:57.08 | SimonRaven | lilo: it's his script, just ignore it |
| 06:57.18 | SimonRaven | lilo: woops, s/lilo/liable/ |
| 06:57.51 | liable | SimonRaven: themolester's script? |
| 06:57.59 | Azar | I think > output express it better than / |
| 06:58.15 | SimonRaven | yes |
| 06:59.01 | SimonRaven | Azar: what? |
| 06:59.09 | SimonRaven | !confuse Azar |
| 06:59.09 | dpkg | Yes, what was your weasel today, Azar? pants of the republic of swaziland with extra herring |
| 06:59.11 | Azar | my friend just got the box where I installed Debian for him last month and thanks you all for helping me |
| 06:59.20 | Azar | :) |
| 06:59.24 | SimonRaven | oh |
| 07:00.15 | Azar | my first full Debian install success I feel so happy |
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| 07:01.33 | chugga | is sarge reasonably up to date - or is it the old stable one? |
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| 07:02.13 | Kvant | sarge was released last june |
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| 07:02.41 | chugga | and hasnt been updated since? |
| 07:02.46 | Azar | every stable release (sarge included) is "frozen" |
| 07:02.48 | chugga | or do ppl update it using apt-get? |
| 07:02.59 | sep | chugga, naturaly, otherways it woudnt be stable |
| 07:03.03 | Azar | apt-get and aptitude chugga |
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| 07:03.17 | Kvant | stable is only gets security fixes |
| 07:03.21 | Kvant | s/is// |
| 07:03.27 | sep | chugga, you get security updates, and point releases might also fix critical bugs. |
| 07:03.27 | chugga | ok. but im confused, if its frozen then how can it be updated and vice versa? |
| 07:03.47 | chugga | oh. so no package upgrades? |
| 07:03.49 | sep | chugga, security updates are backported to the version in sarge, no new versions |
| 07:03.52 | Azar | chugga, not really |
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| 07:04.24 | chugga | so what am i looking for, unstable, testing? |
| 07:04.43 | Azar | chugga, the stable distributions usually use only well tested packages up the date the version was officially released. |
| 07:04.43 | john | If you don't know? Then maybe Stable :p |
| 07:04.45 | sep | chugga, but you have volatile that have packages that become useless unless updated, and you can use unofficial sources like backports if you require that one package. |
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| 07:05.09 | Azar | chugga, you know why you would want to go testing or unstable.. |
| 07:05.10 | deadcat | somebody really need to fix the damn bash completions bug when completing via scp.. damnmit |
| 07:05.16 | sep | chugga, if you are going to depend on the working state of the computer use sarge. |
| 07:05.38 | Smoked1 | I remember stopping pure_ftpd from starting at system startup but it has been so long that I forgot what I did. What file do I need to check to see what I did please? |
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| 07:06.14 | Azar | Smoked1, the init.d takes care of what is loaded or not |
| 07:06.21 | sep | Smoked1, i would have done it with update-rc.d but only you can know how you did it. |
| 07:06.41 | Smoked1 | The startup script is in init.d |
| 07:07.22 | Smoked1 | It's cool. I am sure that I will figure it out. |
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| 07:08.50 | BlackFrog | liable: the boot floppies appear to be working, thanks a bundle |
| 07:09.00 | liable | BlackFrog: yw |
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| 07:09.59 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 07:09.59 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 07:14.00 | raf256[laptop] | how to make damn debuild work? |
| 07:14.05 | raf256[laptop] | I hacked a source a bit |
| 07:14.13 | raf256[laptop] | debuild fails since I dont have gpg key |
| 07:14.14 | tarzeau | raf256[laptop]: just run debuild? |
| 07:14.28 | raf256[laptop] | tarzeau: it fails while signing |
| 07:14.28 | tarzeau | raf256[laptop]: it shows you only a warning if it can't sign.. no? |
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| 07:15.29 | tarzeau | raf256[laptop]: don't bother, it builds the packages anyways, you can run debsign later |
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| 07:15.45 | tarzeau | or do you have non ascii letters in your name of the email gpg key? |
| 07:15.45 | raf256[laptop] | OMFG |
| 07:15.45 | tarzeau | ROFL |
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| 07:15.45 | Smoked1 | the pure-ftpd script is in the init.d file. Where else could I have stopped it from starting? |
| 07:15.46 | stew | raf256[laptop]: why don't you have a gpg key? |
| 07:15.46 | tarzeau | stew: why does he need one? |
| 07:15.46 | stew | everyone should have one |
| 07:15.46 | Azar | Smoked1, comment it out |
| 07:15.47 | tarzeau | stew: bullshit |
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| 07:16.01 | lilo | here we go |
| 07:16.01 | tarzeau | hardly everone should have one |
| 07:16.01 | stew | Smoked1: man update-rc.d |
| 07:16.01 | lilo | about halfway through |
| 07:16.03 | liable | Azar: wtf? |
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| 07:16.14 | Azar | liable, sorry :) |
| 07:16.19 | chugga | for example a package i want to install has the current version number 0.9.8 .. while apt-get wants to install 0.8.16 .. what should i do to get more recent packages listed in my apt-get thingy |
| 07:16.20 | Smoked1 | thanks |
| 07:16.31 | Azar | in my newbiness, Id do that |
| 07:16.47 | EdLin | !tell chugga about simple sid backport |
| 07:16.51 | stew | chugga: /msg dpkg backports ; /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
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| 07:17.21 | chugga | but backport sounds like the opposite of what i want? i dont want older versions ? |
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| 07:17.41 | Coke | (OT) I have huge problems recovering my nick when stolen, I have tried irssi aliases to make it more smooth, but even when I give nickserv the commands manually it takes three or four times for it to actualy release the nick. Any better solutions? |
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| 07:17.52 | Azar | hmm I suspect I do not get security updates on my Sarge due maybe to the "non-free" append to the source? |
| 07:18.02 | BlackFrog | hmm, exactly how big is the debian base system these floppies are installing? |
| 07:18.05 | buu | Coke: Nickserv works instantly for me. |
| 07:18.10 | ootput | Azar: bad reasoning |
| 07:18.19 | ootput | Azar: it wouldn't prevent you from getting security updates |
| 07:18.22 | Coke | buu: when recovering a nick? |
| 07:18.25 | Azar | ooput, been like 3 months I do not get updates |
| 07:18.45 | buu | Coke: Yes. |
| 07:18.53 | EdLin | BlackFrog: Debian allows you to install a very minimal system compared to other distributions |
| 07:19.06 | EdLin | BlackFrog: for example, X11 is not in the base system |
| 07:19.07 | Dewi | Azar: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free |
| 07:19.09 | stew | Azar: maybe none of the packages you are running have gotten updates |
| 07:19.12 | Dewi | Azar: that's what I've got, works okay |
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| 07:19.47 | ootput | Coke: i have a way: NICKRECOVER = "/^msg nickserv recover _nick_ _password_; /^msg nickserv release _nick_ _password_; /^nick _nick_; /^msg nickserv identify _password_"; |
| 07:19.54 | Dewi | Azar: if you can update, and mark for upgrade without problems, you're probably fine |
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| 07:20.19 | EdLin | Azar: 3.1r1 was released recently so a lot of security fixes were moved to the main archive then |
| 07:20.20 | Azar | Dewi, stew, I installed Debian on this box like 3 months ago... however for some reason, I do not get updates of no kind, security included, the source link is same ^^^^^ |
| 07:20.38 | ootput | stable? |
| 07:20.40 | Dewi | Azar: do any of your packages have updates against them? |
| 07:20.44 | Azar | I suspect a program I installed does it but not sure |
| 07:20.56 | Dewi | Azar: check the security lists |
| 07:21.02 | Dewi | Azar: security.debian.org ? |
| 07:21.10 | Coke | ootput: what's up with the ^ ? |
| 07:21.18 | Azar | Dewi, ok but how can I find what was updated and what not? |
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| 07:21.26 | Coke | buu: I have to do it three times this morning before my nick was finally released. |
| 07:21.27 | stew | Azar: what does "apt-cache pollicy pound" list for candidate: ? |
| 07:21.42 | Azar | one moment to check, stew |
| 07:21.42 | stew | Azar: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce |
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| 07:22.40 | stew | err policy* |
| 07:22.53 | ootput | errrr |
| 07:22.57 | Azar | stew: 1.8.2-1 |
| 07:23.18 | stew | Azar: have you run apt-get update recently? |
| 07:23.27 | Azar | stew, almost every day |
| 07:23.35 | stew | Azar: no, i mean in the last hour |
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| 07:23.52 | Coke | ootput: what does the ^ mean? |
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| 07:24.08 | dawg | coke, it doesn't echo the text to the window |
| 07:24.09 | Azar | yes it is fetching |
| 07:24.21 | Dewi | Coke: it also doesn't open a query |
| 07:24.29 | Azar | but it does not upgrade |
| 07:24.32 | Coke | Ah. |
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| 07:24.46 | stew | Azar: after you run update again, tell me what you get for candidate |
| 07:24.52 | Dewi | Azar: check the pound candidate again |
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| 07:25.02 | beltorak | hey all; I have a friend with an amd 64 bit system that has 2 gigs of physical ram, but linux is only showing 1 gig; where is the other gig going? |
| 07:25.05 | Azar | ok |
| 07:25.29 | Perseid | Ok. Newbie question: How does one get an SB Audigy to work under Debian? |
| 07:25.33 | Dewi | beltorak: too little information |
| 07:25.34 | Azar | 1.8.2-1sarge1 this time |
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| 07:25.38 | stew | beltorak: he needs a kernel that has highmem support, which is all of the debian 2.6 kerenls besides the -386 kernel |
| 07:25.44 | Dewi | Azar: looks like you're cool then |
| 07:25.51 | stew | Azar: that package was released into security 3 hours ago or so |
| 07:25.56 | Dewi | Azar: if apt-get dist-upgrade does nothing, then you're all up to date |
| 07:25.59 | Azar | :) thanks |
| 07:26.01 | Pegger | which imapd is better cyrus or courier |
| 07:26.04 | stew | Azar: http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/debian-security-announce-2006/msg00005.html |
| 07:26.06 | beltorak | ok; its xandros with a 2.6.9 kernal -- i thought highmenm was opnly required for > 2 gigs |
| 07:26.11 | Azar | so security upgrades are not shown at the upgrade time |
| 07:26.13 | SimonRaven | !better |
| 07:26.13 | dpkg | rumour has it, better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 07:26.16 | ootput | Perseid: http://at.or.at/hans/misc/audigy+alsa.html |
| 07:26.19 | stew | Azar: they are |
| 07:26.21 | SimonRaven | !kernal |
| 07:26.21 | dpkg | *KERNEL* *KERNEL* *KERNEL* |
| 07:26.31 | Perseid | Thanks. |
| 07:26.41 | beltorak | does xandros use stock debian kernels?> |
| 07:26.49 | stew | beltorak: ask #xandros |
| 07:26.49 | caphuso | beltorak: how should we know? |
| 07:26.56 | Dewi | Azar: "update" will update your system's information about packages, its list |
| 07:27.01 | beltorak | lol; no ones answering yet |
| 07:27.04 | SimonRaven | ask them, not us |
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| 07:27.11 | stew | beltorak: check the changelog |
| 07:27.13 | SimonRaven | so |
| 07:27.16 | ootput | beltorak: they're in a better psoition |
| 07:27.22 | Dewi | Azar: "dist-upgrade" or "upgrade" actually goes and upgrades the software based on the aforementioned list |
| 07:27.38 | Azar | Dewi, after update, when I do upgrade it allways shows me 0 updated, 0 installed.. |
| 07:27.44 | Dewi | Azar: then you are up to date |
| 07:27.59 | odb | ahoi |
| 07:28.09 | Azar | :) nice thanks |
| 07:28.09 | ootput | Azar: yeah, don't sweat it |
| 07:28.10 | beltorak | understood; but under it all it is all linux; so highmem needs to be turned on for kernel compile for more than one gig? I thought that was only needed for more than 2 gigs; |
| 07:28.33 | ootput | 1-4 gigs, iirc |
| 07:28.49 | stew | beltorak: there are 3 settings off for < 1, 4g for 1-4g and 64g for 4-64g |
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| 07:29.59 | Azar | hmm what this mean: pound: Installed: (none) Candidate: 1.8.2-1sarge1 ...... ? |
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| 07:30.21 | Perseid | ootput: Worked perfectly. |
| 07:30.30 | ootput | ;) |
| 07:30.45 | stew | Azar: you don't have pound installed, but if you were to install it it would install 1.8.2-1sarge1 by default. the sarge1 at the end means it was the first security update to the package since sarge released |
| 07:31.22 | Perseid | Ok. The other problem: When I do an apt-get dist-upgrade, it wants to uninstall gnome. Why would it want that? |
| 07:31.24 | caphuso | Azar: can you paste the same information for the libssl0.9.7 package? |
| 07:31.29 | stew | Azar: i picked the package "pound" becuase it is the most recently updated pacakge by the security team |
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| 07:31.37 | caphuso | Perseid: because it's apt-get and hence stupid |
| 07:31.58 | chugga | testing doesnt get security updates? |
| 07:32.08 | ootput | chugga: /topic |
| 07:32.13 | omer | i wonder what is tehe "ppd" file extension. Ä° download a file about printer. how can i use this ppd file |
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| 07:32.30 | SimonRaven | !ppd |
| 07:32.31 | dpkg | rumour has it, ppd is postscript printer description. See http://www.linuxprinting.org, or the docs for lpr, lprng, pdq, cups, or whatever the hell printing system you use. |
| 07:32.38 | ootput | !testing security |
| 07:32.38 | dpkg | well, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
| 07:32.44 | stew | Perseid: my guess is that its having to make a choice between hotplug and udev, and is picking hotplug, which means udev gets removed which means so does hal and therefore g-v-m and therefore gnome-desktop-environment and therefore gnome |
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| 07:33.00 | Azar | caphuso I am trying to figure out how to do that |
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| 07:33.10 | chugga | so yes or no? |
| 07:33.21 | caphuso | Azar: by using the package name libssl0.9.7 instead of the package name pound |
| 07:33.28 | ootput | chugga: it's quite possible |
| 07:33.34 | Azar | caphuso ah thanks ok |
| 07:33.42 | caphuso | Azar: i hope you feel really stupid now |
| 07:33.45 | Perseid | stew: That sounds right, becaue it also wants to remove hotplug. So how do I set it straight? |
| 07:34.13 | stew | Perseid: oh, if it wasnts to remove hotplug then i'm wrong, what version of debian are you running? |
| 07:34.29 | SimonRaven | stop using aptget to do massive package management |
| 07:34.31 | Azar | caphuso, no if I would I would not persist in using Debian |
| 07:34.34 | SimonRaven | apt-get even |
| 07:34.39 | beltorak | ok; thanks all; |
| 07:34.45 | ootput | Perseid: aptitude |
| 07:34.50 | breedx | what's the comfort level on dist-upgrade in unstable right now after the xorg and kde revs? |
| 07:35.10 | Perseid | What version? You mean the kernel? |
| 07:35.10 | stew | breedx: apt-get -s dist-upgraade and decide for yourself |
| 07:35.20 | Azar | Installed: 0.9.7e-3sarge1 Candidate: 0.9.7e-3sarge1 |
| 07:35.23 | SimonRaven | could you translate that into jargon so i can grok WTF you're saying please? |
| 07:35.32 | stew | Perseid: no what version of debian are you running? stable? etch? testing? unstable? ubuntu? |
| 07:35.38 | breedx | stew: yeah, well, I did that and thought I'd ask first.;) |
| 07:35.43 | Perseid | Oh. Unstable. |
| 07:35.55 | caphuso | Azar: that means you did get security updates in the last three months |
| 07:36.13 | stew | Perseid: gnome is in a major transition in unstable at the moment, something probably just hasn't made it yet |
| 07:36.32 | Azar | caphuso I had worse times in 3 years with Debian than this time |
| 07:36.40 | Perseid | Ok. So just leave it alone and don't dist-upgrade for a while? |
| 07:36.42 | Azar | thanks caphuso, something new learned |
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| 07:37.02 | odb | hi, how was the apt info cmd ? |
| 07:37.18 | stew | odb: which? |
| 07:37.21 | Azar | apt-cache search package? |
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| 07:37.37 | Azar | man apt? |
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| 07:37.41 | Perseid | Thanks, guys. I'm converting from Windows, and I'm not used to feeling like such a noob. :) |
| 07:37.41 | chugga | so let me get this straight in lieu of having a reasonably recent package install - its either using an outdated stable, or use some unofficial third party backports thing that might not work - or use testing and go without official security updates. is this right? arent there any normal debian users out there - and if so what do they use? |
| 07:37.56 | stew | Perseid: you probably shouldnt' be running unstable |
| 07:37.58 | Azar | chugga, define outdated |
| 07:38.03 | odb | no there was a cmd to get details about a package |
| 07:38.07 | dimir | Mornin! |
| 07:38.14 | odb | using apt-cahce info or something like that |
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| 07:38.16 | odb | moin |
| 07:38.21 | Perseid | Heh, well, I have to learn somehow. |
| 07:38.26 | stew | chugga: testing gets security updates |
| 07:38.30 | breedx | stew: I bet you say that to all the ladies! :) |
| 07:38.46 | chugga | Azar, old as in talking about a package number will get you 'why dont you try something newer?' |
| 07:38.48 | stew | breedx: say what? |
| 07:38.48 | breedx | stew: I should probably be on testing too I admit. |
| 07:38.57 | breedx | stew: not running unstable |
| 07:39.01 | stew | breedx: i don't run unstable either |
| 07:39.05 | breedx | haheheh |
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| 07:39.12 | Pegger | which imapd is better cyrus or courier |
| 07:39.39 | Azar | chugga, the concept is: if you want to run a stable version, you use the well tested packages within that version, and even if newer version numbers come around that does not "obsolete" the original stable ones |
| 07:39.41 | BlackFrog | cyrus |
| 07:39.41 | Dewi | chugga: stable isn't outdated re: security because it gets security updates |
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| 07:39.49 | Dewi | chugga: testing isn't outdated because it's updated all the time |
| 07:39.51 | SimonRaven | !better |
| 07:39.51 | dpkg | methinks better is a matter of personal taste; asking "is foo better than bar?" is almost meaningless unless we know what *you* mean by "better". |
| 07:39.58 | ootput | Pegger: courier? |
| 07:40.02 | breedx | Pegger: last I checked tho, cyrus doesn't do maildirs (somebody tell me if I'm wrong) |
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| 07:40.05 | Azar | new versions will get tested and implemented on the next Debian version |
| 07:40.46 | Azar | chugga so the stable version of Debian runs..... solid rock stable with its original packages |
| 07:40.53 | chugga | Azar, right ive heard the usual sermon about running a stable server and using stable on that. but i doubt most desktop linux users suit that. |
| 07:41.03 | breedx | Pegger: I've been on courier for 4+ years, can't really complain since initial setup. |
| 07:41.18 | Dewi | chugga: so what's wrong with testing? the new releases include whatever security fixes are available |
| 07:41.25 | Pegger | breedx, you have it set up with vhosts |
| 07:41.25 | Azar | chugga, jumping to the latest versions is a mswindows habit, or maybe some other crazy linux distros |
| 07:41.35 | SimonRaven | courier has crap ldap support |
| 07:41.41 | breedx | Pegger: nope, just a simple lan setup |
| 07:41.49 | Azar | chugga, go testing see how are the latest versions playing with you |
| 07:41.52 | stew | courier tends to be standards compliant to a fault |
| 07:41.52 | Azar | err for you |
| 07:41.53 | breedx | SimonRaven: Really? |
| 07:41.55 | Pegger | well I am looking for vhost and mysql support |
| 07:41.58 | chugga | Azar, whos talking about jumping to the latest version. its about having one that OLD compared to the current releases! |
| 07:42.08 | Azar | old = good |
| 07:42.13 | Azar | new = unknown |
| 07:42.17 | SimonRaven | yes. Pegger: then go for courier |
| 07:42.37 | stew | Pegger: note that courier doesn't support mbox, only maildir |
| 07:42.39 | Azar | chugga bottom line: you want new versions, >> go to testing or unstable |
| 07:42.42 | chugga | Azar, old == old, less support, less features, etc too. |
| 07:42.45 | breedx | SimonRaven: I've been running courier+ldap+maildirs for a while, tho it's a tiny setup, it's been solid |
| 07:42.49 | Azar | support? |
| 07:42.52 | Azar | oh oh |
| 07:42.59 | Azar | where is the debian customer support? |
| 07:43.02 | breedx | the converstion *to* maildirs sucks (if you're coming from mbox) |
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| 07:43.12 | Azar | :) |
| 07:43.16 | jrf | yo |
| 07:43.16 | stew | breedx: not at all |
| 07:43.20 | liable | chugga: use testing or a debian derivative if you must have the latest shit. |
| 07:43.28 | chugga | Azar, not debian support - but the package's supporters |
| 07:43.29 | Pegger | stew, well mbox is old and maildir is faster so that is even better, plus I should only be using webmail and possibly local imapd client |
| 07:43.33 | breedx | stew: I remember having probs with it |
| 07:43.37 | Azar | chugga, go testing then |
| 07:43.38 | breedx | again, been a while |
| 07:43.38 | SimonRaven | not really. there's scripts to handle it. |
| 07:43.43 | EdLin | chugga: just because a program is six months old doesn't mean that it is no good. Especially since Debian tests all their packages for bugs |
| 07:43.57 | stew | breedx: formail -s maildrop < mbox ; or use one of the numerous utilities |
| 07:44.05 | Pegger | breedx, why did you use ldap insed of some sql |
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| 07:44.11 | chugga | easily over six months old. ihave some packages that are released in 2004, and current ones are released in 2005.. |
| 07:44.26 | sep | chugga, most desktop uses would prefer a system that's stable and known where things dont change much and they can do their work in peach. must IT users wants change and learn things all the time. most regular users want a stable system. |
| 07:44.37 | EdLin | chugga: Sarge was released June 6, 2005 ~= 6 months ago |
| 07:44.39 | omer | i have lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, i see my printer on usb, but when i try to print a file, it sends it to Kjobviewer, after a 5-10 second later, i couldn't see file in kjobviewer, and it says cancelled but i don't cancel. at least i have no result from printer. how can i solve this problem |
| 07:44.44 | Azar | chugga, for your information I run the old stable woody with pride |
| 07:44.52 | liable | chugga: shut up and install testing then, we are well aware of the debian release cycle. |
| 07:44.54 | breedx | Pegger: mainly just wanted to be able to run ldap clients tunneled from anywhere, and webmail was overkill for me (tho now I'm considering it) |
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| 07:45.07 | chugga | sep, i dont understand this debian sillyness. i want a good middle ground between crazy out there recent - and rather dated old |
| 07:45.19 | Dewi | chugga: testing is middle |
| 07:45.24 | Dewi | chugga: between stable and unstable |
| 07:45.32 | Dewi | chugga: how many times do you want your question answered? |
| 07:45.33 | liable | and has been horribly broken lately.. |
| 07:45.33 | Azar | chugga, the actual stable Debian sarge will "not not not not" run new versions of hmm packages. So you stick with it or go stable |
| 07:45.39 | EdLin | chugga: then pick some other distro and /part #debian. Your whining here will not change Debian's release process. |
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| 07:46.55 | breedx | the biggest issue with unstable, IMO, is the name itself. ;) |
| 07:47.18 | lunitik | chugga: install ubuntu |
| 07:47.22 | EdLin | breedx: not true, I had a severe problem when I upgraded my kernel recently. |
| 07:47.23 | Dewi | breedx: heh. IMHO testing feels "unstable" at times |
| 07:47.26 | Azar | I ran unstable for a while, it wasnt bad, but eh it died after few months |
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| 07:47.46 | Perseid | I haven't noticed anything terrible in unstable yet. Nothing's caught fire so far. |
| 07:47.47 | chugga | forgive me for thinking apt-get is a way of (reasonably) keeping up to date. what did i know that i might as well not bother and waiting 6 months between running it |
| 07:47.55 | Dewi | chugga: TESTING |
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| 07:48.09 | Dewi | chugga: that's 4 times I've answered your question now |
| 07:48.12 | EdLin | !troll chugga |
| 07:48.20 | Azar | chugga, well if thats what you think, go change the distro |
| 07:48.26 | breedx | hmmm....I guess it's all based on configurability -- unstable has felt pretty decent to me. |
| 07:48.29 | Azar | you did not do your homework |
| 07:48.33 | breedx | in the last 3-4 years |
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| 07:48.56 | Dewi | breedx: partly depends what you're doing |
| 07:49.02 | breedx | EdLin: what was the severe problem? |
| 07:49.11 | Dewi | breedx: nothing involving GUIs has withstood all this hotplug/udev crap without problems, unless one is very lucky |
| 07:49.12 | breedx | yeah...totally depends on what you're doing... |
| 07:49.23 | breedx | ha! |
| 07:49.31 | omer | ? |
| 07:49.36 | breedx | yeah, hotplug+udev nightmares |
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| 07:49.49 | EdLin | breedx: the initial ramdisk crashed and dumped me into busybox due to it not recognizing my hard drive. |
| 07:50.12 | stew | there is no hotplug+udev |
| 07:50.15 | EdLin | breedx: I was smart enough to know how to modprobe the modules I needed and chroot and use the bts to find out how to fix it. |
| 07:50.21 | breedx | EdLin: eek....I guess I've been lucky |
| 07:50.25 | Dewi | stew: exactly |
| 07:50.35 | EdLin | breedx: most folks would have given up and quit, not knowing what to do about that. |
| 07:50.40 | breedx | stew: these are not the hotplug+udev you are looking for |
| 07:51.57 | EdLin | breedx: the failure of PAM made it impossible to log in a couple of years ago. |
| 07:52.13 | breedx | EdLin: I screwed myself by uninstalling pcmcia-cs after installing pcmciautils....had ot bring pcmcia-cs back over on a thumb drive, so I feel your pain |
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| 07:53.26 | Perseid | Well, thanks again. I may be back later. :) |
| 07:53.31 | madradrone | anyone know how i can switch from one window manager to another with it still running? |
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| 07:54.00 | ejofee | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
| 07:54.07 | madradrone | there used to be a menu option for window managers but it disappeared |
| 07:54.16 | caphuso | madradrone: you want to run two window managers at the same time or replace the one you are running now? |
| 07:54.18 | jm_ | ejofee: try #debian-kde or #kde |
| 07:54.21 | EdLin | madradrone: most window managers support that, it should be in your menu, if not apt-get install menu and update-menus as user |
| 07:54.26 | madradrone | ejofee: try asking #debian-kde |
| 07:54.43 | ejofee | jm_, madradrone: thanks. |
| 07:55.07 | madradrone | caphuso: replace currently running openbox with icewm-lite |
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| 07:55.30 | omer | i have lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, i see my printer on usb, but when i try to print a file, it sends it to Kjobviewer, after a 5-10 second later, i couldn't see file in kjobviewer, and it says cancelled but i don't cancel. at least i have no result from printer. how can i solve this problem |
| 07:56.13 | madradrone | omer: de-install kjobviewer? |
| 07:56.26 | llama32 | whats a channel about CORBA? |
| 07:56.39 | EdLin | llama32: #snakes |
| 07:57.05 | llama32 | EdLin: umm... ??? |
| 07:57.07 | Guerin | llama32: #stupidsubsystemsnamedafteranimals |
| 07:57.09 | Azar | omer maybe your printer does not understand what job is requested... |
| 07:57.19 | EdLin | llama32: actually #dyslexic-snakes |
| 07:57.20 | llama32 | since when is cobra spelt corba? |
| 07:57.27 | llama32 | i see |
| 07:57.33 | omer | i print normally |
| 07:57.45 | fooz | Common Object Request Broker Architecture |
| 07:57.52 | omer | as user, as root but it says "it cancelled" |
| 07:57.54 | Azar | omer I only said that when you said "multi-function" printer |
| 07:58.06 | whatwhat | i´m a litle confused what is the last vertion of debian ... 3.1 r0a or 3.1 r1 ? |
| 07:58.16 | caphuso | whatwhat: r1 |
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| 07:58.35 | whatwhat | thank you very much ;p |
| 07:58.35 | Guerin | whatwhat: is 1 still greater than 0? |
| 07:58.40 | caphuso | standard math order, 1 > 0 |
| 07:58.46 | EdLin | whatwhat: if you're running r0a you should have upgraded your security fixes up to the point of being the same as r1 |
| 07:58.48 | stew | 0x0a > 0x1 however |
| 07:58.50 | Guerin | maybe whatwhat thinks in base -1 |
| 07:59.00 | whatwhat | tha what i think but i see the some .old (and the .old makes me confused) |
| 07:59.06 | Azar | r1 means "with appended patches" |
| 07:59.07 | whatwhat | only because of that |
| 07:59.09 | omer | in localhost:631 it says a error "client-error-not-possible" |
| 07:59.35 | whatwhat | EdLin ok thank i will try to download the r.1 |
| 07:59.46 | EdLin | whatwhat: that's the opposite of what I said |
| 07:59.50 | Azar | omer the print job sent to your printer might not go through because the printer might not understand what "job" is requested |
| 08:00.02 | EdLin | whatwhat: you do *not* need to download r1 |
| 08:00.14 | Azar | omar: job: fax, scan, copy, print |
| 08:00.21 | whatwhat | so what debian i download ? o0 0o |
| 08:00.28 | omer | what i do to understand job |
| 08:00.45 | stew | whatwhat: he just means if you already have r0a you don't need to download r1, but if you have neither, download r1 |
| 08:00.46 | Azar | omer thats your printer to be instructed somehow |
| 08:01.01 | EdLin | whatwhat: just run "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" as root and your system will be the same as r1 |
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| 08:01.20 | madradrone | hmm menu entry for icewm-lite just has command=/usr/bin/icewm-lite, but i know there's some trick to make it replace currently running wim |
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| 08:01.22 | whatwhat | ohhh ok yes i understand i don´t have noone downloads just try to downlaod to try it here |
| 08:01.29 | whatwhat | ok ok thank you very much |
| 08:01.33 | whatwhat | :p |
| 08:01.44 | EdLin | whatwhat: OK, then download r1 if you don't have anything installed |
| 08:01.54 | whatwhat | ok i will download the updates no i will not forget |
| 08:02.12 | EdLin | !d-i whatwhat |
| 08:02.12 | dpkg | whatwhat, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 08:02.56 | whatwhat | dpkg thank you :p |
| 08:02.56 | dpkg | whatwhat: no problem |
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| 08:05.20 | whatwhat | is only need the first cd isn´t ? |
| 08:05.55 | chugga | i dont see a place to download a testing iso on the website |
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| 08:05.59 | liable | whatwhat: get the net-inst if you got a good connection |
| 08:06.04 | liable | !etch |
| 08:06.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 08:06.12 | liable | chugga: ^^ |
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| 08:06.40 | thetallcoolone | I run Debian on a P3 667 with 128Mb RAM (Idon't know if this is relevent to my question): When I got on the Internet, using KDE's default web browser, there's a fairly long wait before it fetches the pages and loading the page is long too. Any ideas why? |
| 08:06.46 | ma3x | what will happen if I burn a 700MB movie to a video dvd? |
| 08:07.00 | chugga | "Please note that security updates for "testing" distribution are not managed by the security team. Hence, "testing" does not get security updates in a timely manner." |
| 08:07.01 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: try dillo or links2 -g as a browser |
| 08:07.02 | liable | ma3x: you waste a lot of space? |
| 08:07.07 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: and try to not use kde with only 128mb ram |
| 08:07.09 | ma3x | liable, k3b shows that only 687mb will be occupied |
| 08:07.15 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: and also p3 667 is a bit slow for kde too |
| 08:07.21 | chugga | ^what does this mean - is it a signficant delay? |
| 08:07.25 | ma3x | liable but when I try to burn it to a video cd, it says it only supports mpeg1,2 |
| 08:07.33 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: hey and don't even think about GNOME! |
| 08:07.38 | whatwhat | liable ok o will try it thank you |
| 08:07.45 | ma3x | liable, I want to burn the movie so that most dvd players can read it |
| 08:07.45 | zimnyx | Is it possible to secure thunderbird with global password? Sometimes i leave computer running, and don't want to let anybody read my email. |
| 08:07.50 | ma3x | so what should i do? |
| 08:07.51 | breedx | I did a fressh woody -> unstable netinst on a pentium mmx laptop with pcmcia network adaptor a few days back...and really, debian i love you. |
| 08:07.54 | Dewi | zimnyx: I think so |
| 08:08.02 | liable | ma3x: avi's are generally mpg4 and therefore not mpeg1/2 |
| 08:08.02 | Dewi | zimnyx: I think it's called a master password |
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| 08:08.17 | XTL | zimnyx: Have you considered a locking screensaver? |
| 08:08.20 | Dewi | zimnyx: or you could just lock your workstation when you're not using it |
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| 08:08.27 | thetallcoolone | tarzeau: I don't have a major problems with anything else except getting on the net (though I know my RAM is low, very noticable when I have more than 2 apps going on) |
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| 08:08.56 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: well really try other browsers (don't try firefox) |
| 08:08.56 | liable | ma3x: is it an avi? |
| 08:08.56 | ma3x | liable, so I want my movie to be playable on most of the dvd players. How should I burn it, on CD or DVD? |
| 08:09.02 | ma3x | liable, yes |
| 08:09.38 | zimnyx | Dewi: yeah, but i want to lock only mail |
| 08:09.53 | liable | ma3x: you need to convert it to mpg2 then i havent futzed with this sort of thing in linux. |
| 08:09.53 | thetallcoolone | tarzeau: so getting on the net is so memory dependent? |
| 08:10.03 | stew | it could already be mpeg2 |
| 08:10.06 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: no it's not |
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| 08:10.12 | Dewi | zimnyx: use thunderbird master password and close it when you walk away |
| 08:10.15 | EdLin | !tell chugga about testing security |
| 08:10.18 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: really try the browsers i mentioned, they work great on 32mb linux systems |
| 08:10.19 | DimmuR | how to lunch linux in single mode from grub? |
| 08:10.33 | tarzeau | thetallcoolone: also omniweb works great on openstep 32mb systems |
| 08:10.34 | ma3x | liable, and if I create video dvd and then burn the avi on it, will it play on DVD? |
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| 08:10.54 | tarzeau | DimmuR: you don't use debian default grub configuration? |
| 08:11.04 | liable | ma3x: i dont know. if its a mpeg2, then yes. |
| 08:11.16 | thetallcoolone | tarzeau: OK! will try them. Thanks |
| 08:11.52 | soup | I'm on debian stable (sarge?) and I've manually compiled and upgrade to 2.6.14.3... modprobe doesn't seem to load any of the 2.6 modules... do I need an upgrade modprobe or something? |
| 08:11.54 | DimmuR | tarzeau: actaully i'm launching second debian in vmware but thereis grub instead of lilo :/ |
| 08:11.57 | chugga | EdLin, ok. if i download this etch thing - it will be setup to do that automatically right? |
| 08:11.58 | ma3x | liable, it's a DIVX5 video |
| 08:12.26 | EdLin | chugga: no |
| 08:12.39 | Dewi | chugga: your attitude is all wrong. Debian doesn't need you. |
| 08:12.42 | Dewi | chugga: go away. |
| 08:13.02 | tarzeau | DimmuR: linux kernel parameters are the same, no matter if you use lilo,grub,palo,silo or whatever |
| 08:13.09 | EdLin | chugga: you download sarge, edit /etc/apt/sources.list to testing, add the testing security entries, then dist-upgrade |
| 08:13.12 | stew | Dewi: if you don't want to help him just put him on ignore, his attitude is not all wrong |
| 08:13.20 | Guerin | ma3x: if you want to play your video in a dvd player, you'll need to convert it to a format your player knows |
| 08:13.20 | liable | ma3x: i know nero can do it, i havent done it for a long time, so i havent bothered tryiing to find a linux tool for the job. |
| 08:13.21 | chugga | Dewi, debian is weird. its not me. i edited the sources.list and it gave me trouble |
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| 08:13.32 | Dewi | stew: if you say so. |
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| 08:13.58 | liable | chugga: then paste your list and we'll tell you whats wrong.. |
| 08:14.01 | ma3x | Guerin, what would be a good format for most of the dvd players? |
| 08:14.08 | stew | chugga: it should be setup for you, however keep in mind that the etch installer is beta at this point |
| 08:14.09 | ma3x | Guerin, mpeg2 right? |
| 08:14.25 | aaron_ | hi all. I have a new mp4 player that I'm trying to find and copy files to. Anyone able to guide me through this? or point me in the right direction? |
| 08:15.06 | takatumi | soup: is module-init-tools installed? |
| 08:15.07 | sep | !usb-storage |
| 08:15.07 | dpkg | Load the 'usb-storage' and 'sd_mod' modules. Then your USB drive should appear as /dev/sda or /dev/sdb or something. Consult /proc/partitions to see if it has a partition table. Create an entry in /etc/fstab like: "/dev/sda1 /mnt/usb vfat user,noauto,noatime 0 0", and do "mkdir /mnt/usb". Then you can "mount /mnt/usb" and "umount /mnt/usb" at will. |
| 08:15.10 | Azar | chugga needs to do a bit of homework and read about Debian , its distributions and apt HOWTO. When he will read and understand, then he will not complain about old/new/latest packages |
| 08:15.15 | deadcat | if i install norton virus scan via wine. can i scan a dir via a cron job? |
| 08:15.27 | chugga | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1517 |
| 08:15.35 | chugga | what should it read for testing |
| 08:15.49 | stew | chugga: /msg dpkg testing security |
| 08:15.57 | chugga | Azar, as i understand it, i need testing. |
| 08:16.09 | zimnyx | Dewi: i can;t find master password in thunderbird 1.07.. I use Etch, wonder why no newer version is available. |
| 08:16.09 | liable | ma3x: google linux convert divx mpeg2 |
| 08:16.21 | sep | deadcat, why can't you use clamav, isn't it good enoughf ? |
| 08:16.29 | stew | chugga: wait, is that from a fresh install? |
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| 08:16.40 | deadcat | sep: not via mail. just via user uploads. |
| 08:16.40 | stew | chugga: you have sarge in there, which is stable, not testing |
| 08:16.41 | BlackFrog | ma3x: it needs to be in a *correct* mpeg2 format, burned to dvd in a precise way. Here's a good howto (geared towards gentoo however) http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=117709 |
| 08:16.46 | Azar | chugga, this would be a good start: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 |
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| 08:16.50 | chugga | stew, no this is what i got from a friend a while ago. i dont remember why its like that |
| 08:16.55 | blondie | I wouldn't use a Windows AV program for linux |
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| 08:17.02 | Dewi | zimnyx: tools -> options -> advanced -> saved passwords -> master password... |
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| 08:17.12 | sep | deadcat, clamav can scan directories |
| 08:17.12 | stew | chugga: /msg dpkg sarge-etch |
| 08:17.14 | chugga | stew, i tried changing the string sarge to testing - but then i had some errors in apt-get update |
| 08:17.15 | inetd | how do i automatically put a version stamp into a file? |
| 08:17.30 | deadcat | blondie: oh. linux AV program can scan a dir on the linux box for virus ya? virus, spyware |
| 08:17.33 | stew | chugga: put the exact errors in a pastebin |
| 08:17.41 | deadcat | sep: thanks |
| 08:17.42 | blondie | deadcat: erm yes |
| 08:17.45 | zimnyx | Dewi: i got no "options" in tools menu. |
| 08:17.57 | Dewi | zimnyx: might be edit -> preferences then |
| 08:18.03 | inetd | eg: " $Id: svnrev.c 3116 2005-03-18 16:26:29Z thiadmer $" |
| 08:18.09 | Dewi | zimnyx: it depends on your OS |
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| 08:18.34 | sep | deadcat, not sure about spyware... that's more rootkit detection land isn't it ?? |
| 08:18.39 | zimnyx | Dewi: #debian:) thanks i got it. |
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| 08:18.48 | gridbug | Hey folks - anyone using Evolution 2.4 with an Exchange server? |
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| 08:19.02 | jm_ | just sylpheed |
| 08:19.10 | deadcat | sep: my friend wants to scan all the uploaded apps for virus,spyware |
| 08:19.15 | deadcat | sep: all windows apps |
| 08:19.18 | inetd | deadcat: yo how is it going? |
| 08:19.19 | Azar | deadcat: latest news say that wine is the most affected by the latest WMF vulnerabilities |
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| 08:19.40 | Azar | !es |
| 08:19.40 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 08:19.41 | gridbug | jm_: using imap or pop? |
| 08:19.45 | jm_ | gridbug: imap |
| 08:19.51 | deadcat | inetd: not bad. going to macworld expo this week. either thur or fri |
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| 08:20.00 | chugga | Stew http://channels.debian.net/paste/1518 |
| 08:20.23 | Azar | chugga: http://os.newsforge.com/os/04/12/02/1710208.shtml?tid=2&tid=130 |
| 08:20.25 | inetd | deadcat: any idea what fonts in use in this screenshot? (mutt window) |
| 08:20.27 | gridbug | jm_: ahhh - I need something that'll handle the native sillyness of Exchange. I don't think anything else will do that other than Evolution with their connector. |
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| 08:20.30 | sep | deadcat, sounds like clmav is about as far as you'll get. i sertaily woudnt use wine+norton. i might use trend micro or nod32's linux scanners tho. |
| 08:20.32 | chugga | (ignore the first line. i left that there accidentally from the last paste) |
| 08:20.42 | inetd | deadcat: macworld expo? is that in china? |
| 08:20.43 | stew | chugga: there is no more non-us |
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| 08:21.01 | ma3x | liable, thanks |
| 08:21.06 | stew | chugga: get rid of the non-us line from sources.list and repeat the apt-get update |
| 08:21.11 | sep | i know trend have some spyware detection tool, but im not sure if that's included in the filescaner or only in the realtime scanner |
| 08:21.13 | ma3x | BlackFrog, thanks a lot, will read later up on that one |
| 08:21.20 | deadcat | inetd: work screenshot? no in sf,ca,usa |
| 08:21.21 | Dewi | chugga: your first line still says "sarge" |
| 08:21.21 | chugga | Stew.ok. btw it works when its sarge? oh i see. |
| 08:21.24 | liable | ma3x: yw |
| 08:21.25 | RobNyc | how can I play wmv ? |
| 08:21.31 | Dewi | chugga: non-us was abolished after the release of sarge |
| 08:21.33 | inetd | deadcat: http://mrinal.net/screenshots/mrinal_screenshot3.jpg |
| 08:21.36 | deadcat | sep: ok |
| 08:22.04 | deadcat | inetd: font in the xfonts-artwiz package |
| 08:22.05 | liable | funnily enough, its still in the apt docs.. |
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| 08:22.20 | liable | i was gonna file a bug about that.. |
| 08:22.44 | gridbug | RobNyc: I use xine or mplayer for those... but the mplayer bit isn't standard Debian. |
| 08:22.52 | Dewi | chugga: I didn't know iinet had a debian mirror |
| 08:22.58 | Dewi | chugga: do you get free traffic? |
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| 08:23.13 | inetd | deadcat: thats what i thought..but apparently its not..i went thru all the fonts in artwiz |
| 08:23.25 | RobNyc | gridbug: thanks how about kaffeine |
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| 08:23.29 | deadcat | it should |
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| 08:24.29 | gridbug | RobNyc: I've toyed with it a bit... but I didn't like it as much as using Totem (mplayer front-end). |
| 08:24.36 | chugga | dewi, yes, its free. |
| 08:24.36 | inetd | deadcat: where did u put your screenshots again? |
| 08:24.49 | chugga | stew, ok, no more errors! |
| 08:25.09 | gridbug | RobNyc: In any case, Kaffeine by default uses the xine engine I think. |
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| 08:25.25 | RobNyc | i tried to play some wmv, avi it gave me an error, let me retry |
| 08:25.35 | deadcat | inetd: gallery.sshonly.sytes.net/linux/screenshots/ <- hella slow. fucking neighbor's dsl is SLOW. mine is down until next week |
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| 08:26.20 | chugga | but when i do apt-get show emacs for example, nothign comes up.. |
| 08:26.45 | inetd | deadcat: cool... |
| 08:26.55 | gridbug | RobNyc: not all wmv will handle gracefully... much to do with what codecs you have installed, I believe. |
| 08:27.18 | RobNyc | gridbug: tell me all the codecs i need im pretty much have gotten them all |
| 08:27.39 | liable | chugga: do apt-cache search emacs first and see what happpens |
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| 08:27.48 | stew | chugga: apt-cache search --names-only emacs |
| 08:28.05 | Azar | so now is official? with the dump of gcc-2.95 Woody is out ? |
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| 08:28.47 | gridbug | RobNyc: I just install the w32codecs package from marillat. |
| 08:28.58 | RobNyc | gridbug: i got that |
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| 08:29.40 | gnos | awk howto justfy "()",eg: |
| 08:29.41 | gnos | xxxx(aaaaaa |
| 08:29.41 | gnos | a)xxxx(bbbbb |
| 08:29.41 | gnos | )xxxxxxx(ccc |
| 08:29.41 | gnos | c) ,i want "aaaaaaa bbbbb cccc" |
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| 08:29.49 | chugga | everything is new....... this is much better :D |
| 08:29.54 | inetd | deadcat: what font you use for shell ? |
| 08:30.39 | deadcat | inetd: xterm or the aterm? aterm is edges because i only use that for fun. xterm i use XTerm*faceName: Bitstream Vera Sans Mono |
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| 08:30.52 | inetd | deadcat: ive been playing around wit DVB lately with my Nebula DigiTV card...works quite nicely |
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| 08:31.09 | Beleys | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:31.09 | deadcat | inetd: nice nice nice. how $ the card? |
| 08:31.13 | gnos | awk howto justfy "()",eg: |
| 08:31.13 | gnos | xxxx(aaaaaa |
| 08:31.13 | gnos | a)xxxx(bbbbb |
| 08:31.13 | gnos | )xxxxxxx(ccc |
| 08:31.13 | gnos | c) ,i want "aaaaaaa bbbbb cccc" |
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| 08:31.24 | liable | fuck sakes |
| 08:31.26 | deadcat | gnos is one stupid fuck. doesnt learn |
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| 08:31.45 | RobNyc | gridbug: i guess after i did that earlier it works now :) |
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| 08:31.56 | liable | gnos: read the fucking topic |
| 08:32.09 | dondelelcaro | gnos: when the bot tells you not to flood, you shouldn't flood. |
| 08:32.14 | deadcat | gnos: you are dumb |
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| 08:32.19 | dimir | And the fine manual! |
| 08:32.19 | inetd | deadcat: DigiTV card cost AUD$237, Compro VideoMate card cost me AUD$140 |
| 08:32.23 | dondelelcaro | deadcat: that's not called for either... |
| 08:32.40 | gnos | awk howto justfy "()",eg: |
| 08:32.40 | gnos | xxxx(aaaaaa |
| 08:32.40 | gnos | a)xxxx(bbbbb |
| 08:32.40 | gnos | )xxxxxxx(ccc |
| 08:32.40 | gnos | c) ,i want "aaaaaaa bbbbb cccc" |
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| 08:32.44 | dimir | lol |
| 08:32.44 | liable | ... |
| 08:32.48 | Azar | looks like he has a script running |
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| 08:32.57 | gridbug | RobNyc: excellent! |
| 08:32.57 | deadcat | inetd: too $$. you get hella channels? |
| 08:33.03 | *** mode/#debian [+b %*!*@211.141.40.70] by dondelelcaro |
| 08:33.04 | deadcat | dondelelcaro: thats a spammer |
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| 08:33.12 | RobNyc | yes |
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| 08:33.15 | dimir | Azar: an AWK script! |
| 08:33.15 | inetd | deadcat: Compro card no luck getting DVB to work..DVB frontend which uses tda1004x driver..and its a bit dodgy |
| 08:33.22 | dimir | wrong mask! |
| 08:33.39 | deadcat | ah |
| 08:33.49 | inetd | deadcat: we only got 5 DTV channels in AUS...kinda sucks..but i got cable TV aswell..so its sweet |
| 08:34.17 | deadcat | hehe |
| 08:34.28 | RobNyc | gridbug: avi should work too ? |
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| 08:35.17 | dimir | wow, look at the huge banstat. |
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| 08:35.40 | dimir | 174 bans. :-) |
| 08:35.53 | dondelelcaro | 174 bans is nothing; we often get into the 400 ban range. |
| 08:35.57 | liable | dimir: how do you see that? |
| 08:35.58 | aaron_ | anyone know what dcim under /mnt is? |
| 08:36.28 | stew | aaron_: sounds like a mountpoint for camera memory to me |
| 08:36.36 | aaron_ | sweet |
| 08:36.54 | dimir | liable: /banstat |
| 08:36.55 | gridbug | RobNyc: yeah... same issues as wmv :) |
| 08:36.57 | stew | aaron_: your system administrator must have created it, debian didn't |
| 08:37.22 | RobNyc | gridbug: lol i like kaffeine is really easy |
| 08:37.26 | liable | dimir: what client you got? |
| 08:37.27 | RobNyc | i dont like xine, i rather use mplayer |
| 08:37.33 | dimir | liable: BX :-/ |
| 08:38.05 | gridbug | RobNyc: I'm used to using Totem as a front-end to mplayer. Kaffeine got an upgrade recently so I should probably poke at that a bit more and see how I like the new version. |
| 08:38.14 | RobNyc | gridbug: yea totem is nice too let me try |
| 08:38.16 | inetd | where is .deb apt-source for mplayer? |
| 08:38.28 | inetd | the old apt-source kinda died |
| 08:39.05 | RobNyc | gridbug: u got kde 3.5 already? |
| 08:39.10 | gridbug | I show: deb http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main |
| 08:39.11 | dondelelcaro | !tell inetd -about marillat |
| 08:39.14 | RobNyc | wonder why it takes so long for things to hit sid |
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| 08:39.31 | gypsymauro | hello |
| 08:39.31 | dondelelcaro | RobNyc: if you're wondering, jump in and help out. |
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| 08:39.36 | RobNyc | deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main i have that already |
| 08:39.47 | gypsymauro | it's possible to use more than a cdrom reader with apt? |
| 08:39.49 | RobNyc | dondelelcaro: jump in where |
| 08:39.55 | gridbug | RobNyc: I haven't upgraded to 3.5 yet. |
| 08:39.58 | inetd | RobNyc: is the still live? |
| 08:39.59 | aaron_ | I am the admin. I actually tried to mount a device to /mnt and it worked! (noob) |
| 08:40.01 | dondelelcaro | RobNyc: into helping with Debian development. |
| 08:40.03 | aaron_ | thanks stew |
| 08:40.15 | RobNyc | dondelelcaro: they have so many ppl im just a n00b |
| 08:40.24 | RobNyc | inetd: what |
| 08:40.25 | inetd | ok it is |
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| 08:40.30 | gypsymauro | I mean suppose I've two readers and I've two debian's CD I want to put both them in readers and install sw without changing media, it's possible? |
| 08:41.19 | EdLin | !ppl |
| 08:41.19 | dpkg | I'd like to buy two vowels please. I'll have an E and an O. [If you mean people, it's not that hard to type.], or <Guerin> parts per litre? how many? |
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| 08:42.17 | inetd | brb |
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| 08:42.56 | sep | gypsymauro, dont know. try and find out ? but usualy 1 disk is enougf, and get the rest from the net. |
| 08:42.56 | liable | gypsymauro: i dont think so. |
| 08:43.25 | sep | gypsymauro, if it was post install, you could add both cdroms with apt-cdrom, but i dont know if the installer support it |
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| 08:47.22 | RobNyc | any gnome, kde, xfce users here |
| 08:47.34 | RobNyc | kde needs to have kdm theme manager integrated god grief |
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| 08:48.12 | stew | RobNyc: #debian-kde |
| 08:48.20 | sep | RobNyc, install kde-core instead of kde |
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| 08:48.36 | RobNyc | sep: ? |
| 08:49.15 | sep | RobNyc, just a wild guess at what you wanted. since you dont exactly give a lot of detail. |
| 08:49.25 | RobNyc | true |
| 08:49.30 | RobNyc | sep: so what does kde-core has |
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| 08:49.58 | stew | RobNyc: less than kde, apt-cache depends kde ; apt-cache depends kde-core |
| 08:50.04 | beardy | !install kde |
| 08:50.04 | dpkg | rumour has it, install kde is In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 08:50.06 | sep | RobNyc, apt-cache show kde-core and read the depends line |
| 08:50.16 | stew | RobNyc: have you tried apt-cache search kde theme manager |
| 08:51.06 | RobNyc | ty |
| 08:51.11 | RobNyc | let me see |
| 08:51.27 | RobNyc | apt-cache search kdm theme manager |
| 08:51.27 | RobNyc | kde-kdm-themes - Themes for the K Display Manager |
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| 08:51.58 | chris_ | I would like to use linux as a router and have a machine with 2 nics in it but my DSL is dhcp can someone point me in the right direction?? can I use a dyndns or can I pass this info to dhcpd.conf somehow? |
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| 08:53.03 | Azar | this is amazing, and they say it actually works: http://images.tomshardware.com/2006/01/09/strip_out_the_fans/aufmacher.jpg |
| 08:53.04 | chris_ | can iptables pass this info to dhcpd? |
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| 08:54.58 | Fivestar | hello.all |
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| 08:55.15 | ozgurgerilla | is debian more professional then ubuntu? |
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| 08:56.06 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: And "professional" means? |
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| 08:57.18 | gnupengwyn | http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=professional |
| 08:57.36 | gnupengwyn | pay to play ;o) |
| 08:58.04 | gnupengwyn | waaa, i burned up my 3.2Ghz |
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| 08:59.12 | gnupengwyn | good comes from bad... |
| 08:59.13 | Coke | ozgurgerilla: it's the user who is or is not professional |
| 08:59.17 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: It depends on you and what you do with it. |
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| 08:59.39 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: But please answer what you mean by "professional". |
| 08:59.48 | liable | i think its a troll, it just asked the same Q in ubuntu.. |
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| 08:59.56 | startu_net | charming new years wish: http://purl.oclc.org/NET/NewYear-2005-text |
| 09:00.03 | RobNyc | I have an ASUS P4P800-E-DELUXE mobo, ASUS A9250GE/256M GFX card that uses Radeon 9250 (According to online) on linux shows im using radeon 9200 pro very halarious. Prescott P4 3.0ghz w/ HT (Overclockable up to 30%) etc. |
| 09:00.08 | RobNyc | I have 1gb ddr400 dual-channel w/ memory heatsinks ram. I ran memtest and it gave me an error at the end (Test#8) So I took out the ram from the blue slots and put it in the black slots, re ran memtest no errors . What is wrong here? |
| 09:00.29 | beardy | liable: A lousy troll in that case, can't even keep it's trolling going. |
| 09:00.45 | liable | beardy: indeed. |
| 09:00.47 | ozgurgerilla | professional - using codes mor then graphical user interface but I guess they are both based on UNIX so the same. |
| 09:00.56 | Azar | RobNyc, nice that sounds such like a typical mswindows system |
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| 09:01.24 | licre | hi |
| 09:01.34 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: Both can do what you want. This is #debian. Try them both and decide which you likes best. |
| 09:01.50 | ozgurgerilla | ok. thanks. |
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| 09:02.29 | Coke | Both OS' are delivered in a very professional manner. |
| 09:02.30 | gnupengwyn | ozgurgerilla, you have to shop for the OS that best does the job you need it to do. |
| 09:02.54 | gnupengwyn | shop also means try |
| 09:03.06 | Coke | The only OS I have tried and do not find very professional is also the one that, ironically, is has the word "Professional" in it's name. :) |
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| 09:03.31 | Guerin | heh |
| 09:03.31 | ozgurgerilla | I am looking forward to do java programming but I think I should try both |
| 09:03.33 | Guerin | well |
| 09:03.37 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: If you don't want a desktop, Debian might be nicer for you since it doesn't force you into one from the start. |
| 09:03.46 | Guerin | i find the one with 'home' in the name not to be very homely either |
| 09:04.10 | gnupengwyn | Coke, I know some "professional" tree cutters that cut down the wrong trees |
| 09:04.33 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: "/msg dpkg d-i" for the Debian netinstaller, for Ubuntu, ask in #ubuntu. |
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| 09:05.48 | ozgurgerilla | ok. ty |
| 09:05.51 | gypsymauro | another apt question, I build a CD with some debian packages, so I can add it with cdrom-add but how I can make it "signed"? it seems I need to put on it a gpgkey so gpgv can verify it, is this the way? |
| 09:06.42 | sep | what are your possibilities when kill -9 (and 1-8) dont kill a proccess ? spescificaly firefox that's running at 100% cpu |
| 09:07.02 | Guerin | sep: /msg dpkg zombie |
| 09:07.08 | gnupengwyn | killall -9 firefox-bin ? |
| 09:07.17 | beardy | ozgurgerilla: Also, "/msg dpkg why debian". If you decide to try Debian, "/msg dpkg grounding" gives you a good start. |
| 09:07.40 | sep | Guerin, ps is firefox-bin and the parent is 1.... :( |
| 09:08.40 | sep | i'm happy to ignore it... if it would quit hogging my cpu! |
| 09:08.53 | Guerin | sep: firefox-bin has a ppid of 1? |
| 09:08.54 | Guerin | wtf |
| 09:09.12 | Azar | sep the latest firefox version? |
| 09:09.18 | gnupengwyn | i'd ctr-alt-backspace out of x if you can't kill that firefox |
| 09:09.50 | sep | Guerin, yes that's what i said too. the X window is gone tho it gave the quit or wait requester. i pressed quite and it disapered. but firefox-bin is still here on 100%cpu |
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| 09:10.29 | Azar | sep is the firefox version the latest one? |
| 09:10.41 | Guerin | something's horribly fucked, then |
| 09:10.46 | gnupengwyn | can you get a PID? |
| 09:10.47 | sep | Azar, no. 1.0.7-1 from etch |
| 09:10.49 | Guerin | sep: it should die if you change runlevels |
| 09:11.22 | Azar | sep ah I see |
| 09:11.36 | gnupengwyn | that's funny my firefox ran away 100% cpu tonight too. |
| 09:12.16 | beardy | !tell sep -about kill-9 |
| 09:12.17 | gnupengwyn | did you try killall -9 firefox-bin as opposed to "kill" |
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| 09:12.37 | sep | beardy, i have ofcouse tried the lower levels first and killall also |
| 09:12.58 | beardy | sep: Just in case you didn't know about it. |
| 09:13.07 | sep | if it was easy i'd never ask here :) |
| 09:13.11 | beardy | sep: kill -KILL then |
| 09:13.27 | beardy | sep: You'd be amazed the amount of people that do.. :) |
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| 09:14.04 | sep | beardy, same result... ie nothing |
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| 09:14.28 | gnupengwyn | sep there's alway shutdown -r now |
| 09:14.42 | beardy | sep: And the parent is really 1? |
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| 09:14.52 | sep | gnupengwyn, ofcouse, but that's not realy suposed to be neccessary |
| 09:14.56 | kotzman_ | hi markos |
| 09:14.58 | gnupengwyn | or init levels like someone else mentioned |
| 09:15.31 | sep | beardy, acording to ps axl and pstree yes |
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| 09:15.57 | doublehp_ | any live CD for SMP Alpha ? |
| 09:16.12 | sep | beardy, but it's owned by my regular user, and i strated it as usualy from the meny in X |
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| 09:16.26 | sep | s/strated/started/ |
| 09:16.27 | jm_ | sep: what state is it in? |
| 09:16.39 | stew | doublehp_: apt-cache show bootcd |
| 09:16.49 | sep | ?? apt? :) |
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| 09:17.24 | sep | Running acording to top 14962 ronny 16 0 101m 39m 18m R 99.9 1.9 17:13.68 firefox-bin |
| 09:17.43 | jm_ | R - that should be killable |
| 09:17.53 | sep | jm_, yes that's what i thought |
| 09:18.03 | doublehp_ | stew: I expect a bootCD not to have gcc available ... nor X ... I dont have any debian around to test your command. |
| 09:18.13 | jm_ | sep: try killall firefox-bin and then -9 if it doesn't work |
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| 09:18.31 | fooz | sep, try gdb attaching to firefox and killing it |
| 09:19.03 | gnupengwyn | md5 your /usr/bin/killall and /bin/kill |
| 09:19.04 | gnupengwyn | maybe you have a rootkit |
| 09:19.06 | gnupengwyn | tried xkill? |
| 09:19.10 | gnupengwyn | (just tryin to help ya) |
| 09:19.12 | gnupengwyn | I got my own problems heh |
| 09:19.13 | sep | jm_, allready tried both of those. ut i can try again. |
| 09:19.24 | stew | doublehp_: bootcd is a debian package to make a bootable cd from a working debian install. if you are looking for a debian livecd, none exist |
| 09:19.29 | jm_ | sep: oh sorry, haven't read through all of the backlog |
| 09:19.43 | sep | fooz, ill man gdb and try :) |
| 09:20.08 | POVaddct | gnupengwyn: when using kill, normally the shell-builtin kill is used |
| 09:20.08 | doublehp_ | stew: I ll think about that. Thx |
| 09:20.23 | Azar | sep it would be interesting to see if you block port 80 if firefox stops, if not then it is the package that does strange things |
| 09:20.32 | xored | i can mount a USB-stick, but iam failing on mounting a USB-drive. Somehow there is a sdb (sda is my SATA HDD) when i plug in a usb-stick, but there is no one with the drive. Can someone help ? |
| 09:20.50 | stew | xored: /msg dpkg usb-storage |
| 09:21.30 | jm_ | gdb or strace to see what's it doing |
| 09:21.38 | Azar | xored when I last ran modconf, I have seen several "type" of usb modules for different kind of drivers... |
| 09:22.13 | stew | Azar: usb-storage is the only one he is concerned with |
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| 09:22.25 | sep | Azar, according to netstat it's not using the net at all. |
| 09:22.27 | gnupengwyn | POYaddct - yep, your right, but killall has a md5sum, and so does bash. |
| 09:22.40 | xored | stew: so what to do ? |
| 09:22.46 | fooz | sep, reading gdb's manual could take years. try: gdb /usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin <firefox's pid> |
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| 09:22.52 | Azar | sep then it kind of got frozen or some other application keeps it up |
| 09:22.53 | stew | xored: do you have both of those modules loaded? |
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| 09:23.04 | fooz | sep, it'll either stop firefox or crash your computer :) |
| 09:23.11 | gnupengwyn | javascript hell |
| 09:23.16 | Azar | stew, how could I see the usb-storage, that a new for me |
| 09:23.22 | xored | there wa no msg for dpkg |
| 09:23.32 | stew | !tell xored about usb-storage |
| 09:23.33 | xored | misspellled? |
| 09:23.44 | Azar | !tell Azar about usb-storage |
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| 09:24.43 | Azar | cool |
| 09:24.49 | Azar | thanks stew |
| 09:24.51 | xored | stew: loaded both, still now change |
| 09:24.59 | fooz | sep, ping |
| 09:25.21 | Azar | yes, do we need to reboot for the modules to load? |
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| 09:25.47 | stew | xored: try unplugging and replugging the usb device then type dmesg and see if there is anything at the end of the input about your usb device |
| 09:26.24 | stew | Azar: "modprobe modulename" loads them, if you want to have them loaded automatically at next boot add them to /etc/modules |
| 09:26.46 | Azar | :) thanks stew |
| 09:27.10 | xored | ok |
| 09:27.18 | stew | Azar: "modprobe -l" lists available modules ; "lsmod" lists currently loaded moudles |
| 09:27.35 | fooz | i guess it crashed eir computer |
| 09:27.43 | sep | fooz, the darn phone wont lkeep from ringing either you know :) |
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| 09:28.15 | xored | stew can i pm you for logpost ? |
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| 09:28.51 | stew | xored: use http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 09:29.55 | linuxbeginner | hi people |
| 09:29.59 | sep | fooz, my firefox-bin is in a different path ill just adjust acordingly |
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| 09:30.01 | gnupengwyn | man I wonder about that http://channels.debian.net/paste/ and George Bush's new unconstitutional law about annoying behavior (remember the bbs days folks) on the web being a felony now. |
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| 09:30.05 | fooz | k |
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| 09:30.31 | prjktdtnt | where do i get a copy of nickserv? |
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| 09:30.39 | xored | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1519 |
| 09:30.40 | Azar | uh? |
| 09:30.47 | stew | prjktdtnt: apt-get install dancer-services |
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| 09:31.14 | gnupengwyn | if your not in the US i guess youy can still do it. |
| 09:31.50 | gnupengwyn | and WHAT defines annoying behavior ( i remember fidonet) |
| 09:31.59 | Azar | gnupengwyn your comments make no sense |
| 09:32.08 | xored | exactly :) |
| 09:32.14 | fooz | roffle |
| 09:32.45 | stew | gnupengwyn: it would not be possible to commit a felony with http://channels.debian.net/paste/ since it is impossible to post there anonymously |
| 09:32.49 | prjktdtnt | stew: will that work for the ircd-ircu server? |
| 09:32.52 | fireba11 | is there a way to analyze iptables ? so as to tell him if a connection from IP:port to IP:port would come in tell you waht would happen ? |
| 09:32.52 | sep | fooz, gdb /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox-bin 14962 produced [snip] ptrace: Operation not permitted. and im in a gdb (shell) |
| 09:33.02 | fooz | sep, you did that as root? |
| 09:33.10 | linuxbeginner | some help pls: AMD 64 bit X2, gf7800gtx,nf4 board + 1 sata disk + raid0 ... i want linux to instal for playing games like quake 4 ... will debian 3.1r0a amd64 bit edition detect all my hardware correctly`? is it maybe better to use the 32 bit edition?` |
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| 09:33.14 | gnupengwyn | stew (what about right here) |
| 09:33.15 | linuxbeginner | thx 4 any help |
| 09:33.22 | sep | foot, yes |
| 09:33.25 | Azar | fireba11 create logging |
| 09:33.29 | sep | fooz, yes |
| 09:33.33 | fooz | sep, the last thing to try is changing runlevel to single-user, then |
| 09:33.36 | stew | Gnea: what do you mean? |
| 09:33.45 | stew | prjktdtnt: i don't know |
| 09:33.49 | fooz | sep, or telinit q |
| 09:33.53 | prjktdtnt | :( |
| 09:33.55 | fooz | doubt that'll help though |
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| 09:34.01 | fireba11 | Azar: how ?never did that .. also there are plenty of connections and i only want one .. ^^ |
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| 09:34.20 | fooz | sep, usually processes don't wedge like that unless there's something wrong with your hardware |
| 09:34.27 | Azar | linuxbeginner, I guess you will need to use Etch at least for that kind of hardware support |
| 09:34.28 | sep | fooz, well that fix things but i learn little from it :) |
| 09:34.29 | stew | xored: this doesn't look good: scsi: Device offlined - not ready after error recovery: host 3 channel 0 id 0 lun 0 |
| 09:34.30 | xored | stew: no idea ? |
| 09:34.50 | fooz | sep, there's nothing to learn, though -- your system isn't following the rules. the process is already "dead" if it won't allow to be ptraced |
| 09:34.57 | linuxbeginner | etch, is that stabile? |
| 09:34.58 | fooz | but it's not dead. it's undead but not a zombie either |
| 09:34.58 | sep | fooz, hmm well iv had some strange issues on this box. so ill rum memtest tonight |
| 09:35.00 | inetd | can someone send me their /etc/fonts/{local.conf,fonts.conf} files? |
| 09:35.07 | xored | stew: yeah found that too. That drive works under windows, so now hardware error. Sticks are working fine, so it should not be a USB-driver error |
| 09:35.11 | stew | linuxbeginner: http://debian.org/releases |
| 09:35.15 | xored | now = no |
| 09:35.34 | linuxbeginner | thx |
| 09:35.50 | sep | fooz, jm_, beardy, thanks for aiding in toubleshooting |
| 09:35.53 | xored | stew: just btw, con you help me with that "keycode" problem. Its spamming my whole dmesg. What is it for ? |
| 09:35.55 | fooz | np |
| 09:35.59 | Azar | linuxbeginner, sarge is the stable but its kernels might not support sata , etch is testing, sid is the unstable |
| 09:36.56 | stew | xored: did you try setkeycodes as it recommended? |
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| 09:37.26 | Azar | good night honorables |
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| 09:41.35 | mhall | hey could somebody merge '2006 key' and 'apt secure' in the topic? i think it'd be more clear and take less space; i.e. resulting in an improvement in enduser respondingness thereto |
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| 09:42.15 | mhall | Obstfliege: Nach wohin ist der Obst geflogen? |
| 09:42.43 | Obstfliege | moin |
| 09:42.47 | Obstfliege | was is los mhall? |
| 09:43.05 | mhall | Obstfliege: Ich wollte nur wissen, nach wohin der Obst geflogen ist. ;-) |
| 09:43.16 | Obstfliege | lol |
| 09:43.18 | Obstfliege | kein plan |
| 09:43.19 | Obstfliege | ^^ |
| 09:43.44 | linuxbeginner | gibt es etch schon als download? |
| 09:44.09 | mhall | Obstfliege: Ich versuche (sicherlich als ein Witz), fremde (d.h. deutsche) Ãœbernamen zu verstehen. |
| 09:44.11 | stew | !de |
| 09:44.12 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
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| 09:45.02 | Obstfliege | axo woher kommst du? |
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| 09:45.27 | ootput | de.bian |
| 09:45.28 | ootput | ? |
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| 09:46.04 | mhall | Obstfliege: Vereinigten Staaten ;-) |
| 09:46.19 | mhall | Obstfliege: wo es gerade n8 ist |
| 09:46.22 | Obstfliege | mhall: Und woher kannste so gut Deutsch? |
| 09:46.31 | ootput | don't encourage |
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| 09:51.06 | ac3 | Hi |
| 09:51.31 | ac3 | Does somebody have a logrotate script for openldap? (sarge) |
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| 09:52.56 | xored | someone a idea how to get a canon MP110 working under linux without "turboprint" |
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| 09:53.53 | chealer | xored: canon? ew. linuxprinting.org |
| 09:54.18 | beardy | ac3: Is openldap packaged? |
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| 09:54.44 | mhall | 'lo all |
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| 09:54.55 | mhall | ac3: it doesn't come with one? |
| 09:55.04 | mhall | ac3: i thought log rotation were mandatory |
| 09:55.56 | xored | chealer: there is, how it seams, not even one MP supported, or? |
| 09:56.07 | xored | chealer: are there "2" names for that printer ? |
| 09:56.15 | xored | stew: btw. htnak you for your help |
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| 09:57.17 | mhall | beardy: libldap2 - OpenLDAP libraries |
| 09:57.28 | ac3 | mhall: it doesn´t have one |
| 09:57.31 | mhall | beardy: so says apt-cache search, therefore it is canonical law |
| 09:57.39 | ac3 | yes openldap is packaged |
| 09:57.42 | mhall | ac3: hmm it kind of seems to be a library |
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| 09:57.58 | ac3 | ti´s slapd |
| 09:58.02 | ac3 | it´s:) |
| 09:58.08 | mhall | ac3: hmm |
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| 09:59.00 | mhall | ac3: i searched the bugs for 'rotat' and nothing appeared |
| 09:59.03 | mhall | ac3: it could be time to file one |
| 09:59.05 | mhall | ac3: hold on |
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| 09:59.20 | chealer | xored: I don't know that printer, try figuring out |
| 09:59.34 | inetd | my bitstream font seems stuffed |
| 09:59.47 | inetd | im using fontconfig 2.3 |
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| 10:00.11 | inetd | any ideas how i can fix this? |
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| 10:01.27 | ac3 | mhall: ok |
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| 10:02.36 | mhall | ac3: yeah better email maintainer / file a bug |
| 10:02.46 | mhall | ac3: it really should take care of this itself |
| 10:02.52 | mhall | ac3: one other thing to check |
| 10:02.57 | raf256 | "[alpha] [arm] [hppa] [i386] [ia64] [m68k] [mips] [mipsel] [powerpc] [sparc]" |
| 10:02.58 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 10:02.58 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a box full of ground beef, a little thermal paste, and 5 or 6 rabid bunnies. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 10:03.04 | raf256 | there is no official image for amd64 86_64 ? |
| 10:03.16 | Shadowcat | !amd64 |
| 10:03.16 | dpkg | somebody said amd64 was See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
| 10:03.31 | Shadowcat | !liable |
| 10:03.35 | Shadowcat | aww |
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| 10:03.44 | raf256 | !bushsmite liable |
| 10:03.46 | liable | not the 64 one! |
| 10:04.13 | liable | the ideas one.. |
| 10:04.33 | mhall | ac3: also consider editing /etc/logrotate.d/??? |
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| 10:04.49 | mhall | ac3: and /etc/logrotate.cong |
| 10:04.51 | mhall | ac3: and /etc/logrotate.conf * |
| 10:04.56 | liable | !factinfo bushsmite |
| 10:04.56 | dpkg | there's no such factoid as bushsmite, liable |
| 10:05.30 | ac3 | mhall: yeagh, but i dunno what options exactly |
| 10:05.37 | EdLin | !bushsmite GWB |
| 10:05.45 | mhall | raf256: please try http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/etch_d-i/beta1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso and http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 10:06.07 | mhall | ac3: man? |
| 10:07.00 | mhall | raf256: depending on if you are cutting edge or bleeding edge respectively |
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| 10:08.49 | mhall | ok tired |
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| 10:08.52 | mhall | cya |
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| 10:09.51 | epsilon | while compiling 2.6.15 kernel, I get warnings like these, what does these mean and how can I fix them? |
| 10:09.56 | epsilon | kernel/intermodule.c:178: Warnung: `inter_module_register' is deprecated (declared at kernel/intermodule.c:38) |
| 10:09.56 | epsilon | fs/xfs/xfs_iomap.c:488: Warnung: long long unsigned int Format, anderer Typ Argument (Argument 5) |
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| 10:13.11 | peppet | epsilon, don't worry and go ahead |
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| 10:15.01 | jm_ | epsilon: it means the authors should work on it |
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| 10:15.11 | epsilon | peppet: thx, I've already test-running this kernel. Just wanted to know if I had to choose another options in further 2.6 kernels |
| 10:15.20 | epsilon | ok |
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| 10:16.52 | epsilon | can I use xfs safely with this kernel? I wanted to create test partition with xfs for learning and install dbootstrap there |
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| 10:18.34 | sep | epsilon, running xfs happily on fs's with large files on them , i use ext3 for general purpose stuff |
| 10:19.57 | david__ | Hello, i have a question today ... |
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| 10:20.14 | sep | david__, yes there will be a tomorrow |
| 10:20.19 | inetd | is bitstream font ment to be antialiased? |
| 10:20.30 | epsilon | sep: I know, I run ext3 on the box, just wanted to take a look and test with ReiserFS/XFS in safe environment (which I can safely delete, if something goes wrong) |
| 10:20.33 | jm_ | inetd: read through default fonts.conf for some hints on it |
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| 10:21.27 | david__ | I have installed my laptop with the netinst without a desktop environment, so after installation a have migrated from stable to testing and then installed the desktop environment with ... |
| 10:21.58 | inetd | jm_: ive accidently overwritten my fonts.conf... |
| 10:22.07 | david__ | apt-get install kde x-window-system-core |
| 10:22.10 | sep | epsilon, reiserfs as a rule works perferctly when beeing tested/benchmarked, and introduces bit errors in your document collection when used for real :) |
| 10:22.11 | bibe | david__ : apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 10:22.16 | jm_ | inetd: you can get the default from the package |
| 10:22.22 | david__ | so now |
| 10:22.24 | bibe | david__ : kde is broken in etch (testing) |
| 10:22.35 | epsilon | sep: heard exactly the same :) |
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| 10:23.03 | chealer | bibe: no |
| 10:23.07 | david__ | all works fine and i have see that in the K menu there is no 'Debian' submenu with his stuff. |
| 10:23.27 | bibe | chealer, david__ : I didn't know that, sorry |
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| 10:24.23 | david__ | So no submenu with 'Debian'. All the rest works fine hé ;-) it's Debian :-) |
| 10:24.35 | beardy | sep: How did it go? Did the process die? |
| 10:24.35 | epsilon | BTW, when I took sarge netinstall 3.1r1, the installation crashed with the error "no installable kernel found" massage, didn't happen with 3.1r0(a) - is that a known problem? |
| 10:24.36 | david__ | bibe : no problem |
| 10:24.36 | inetd | jm_: ok done...fonts.conf restored |
| 10:24.48 | sep | beardy, with shutdown -r yes ;) |
| 10:24.50 | chealer | david__: install the menu package |
| 10:24.53 | inetd | jm_: but still my bitstream vera mono font looks crap in aterm/xterm :( |
| 10:24.55 | beardy | sep: heh |
| 10:25.04 | david__ | bibe : I would yust communicate that with developpers so he know |
| 10:25.07 | Speedy2 | Hey all. I know this is a bit off topic -- what is the correct driver for a 2.6x kernel for the Lucent Orinoco Gold (PCMCIA)? I can't seem to get it recognized despite having almost all the wlan drivers compiled as modules. |
| 10:25.08 | bibe | david__ : I use sarge and kde, but I've installed only required apps. And no "Debian" submenu |
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| 10:25.54 | inetd | jm_: any help to fix this? |
| 10:25.54 | david__ | clealer : i look in synaptic |
| 10:26.06 | jm_ | inetd: try xterm -fa 'xft:name=Bitstream Vera Sans Mono:size=13:antialias=true' |
| 10:26.23 | david__ | bibe : yes i know i you that so it's the best method ;-) |
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| 10:26.47 | inetd | jm_: cheers mate..you are a legend! |
| 10:26.56 | david__ | bibe : It's for my laptop that i not frequently use and where i on now/ |
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| 10:27.07 | inetd | jm_: now how do i make this perm? can i fix this in ~/.fonts.conf ? |
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| 10:27.35 | Speedy2 | Any ideas on the Orinoco Gold anyone? (Yes I tried Googling it) |
| 10:27.54 | david__ | chealer : is 'menu package' the name ? |
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| 10:28.01 | bibe | Speedy2 : tried with wvlan_cs? |
| 10:28.10 | sep | shiiit... :( firefox-bin just hit the cpu again.. whats going on here today |
| 10:28.11 | chealer | david__: the name is "menu" |
| 10:28.31 | david__ | chealer : thx ;-) |
| 10:28.41 | Speedy2 | bibe: I think I compiled in wlan_cs , but dmesg doesn't show anything when I insert or remove the card. If I insert a 3COM NIC (Cardbus) dmesg shows it...so PCMCIA/Cardbus shouldn't be the issue |
| 10:29.01 | Speedy2 | bibe: On start-up, dmesg shows that wlan_cs gets loaded (compiled in, not loaded as a module) |
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| 10:29.52 | bibe | Speedy2 : tried booting the laptop with the card inserted? |
| 10:30.04 | Speedy2 | bibe: Yes sir |
| 10:30.11 | david__ | chaeler : I not find it, require some extra reposite that i have not added. |
| 10:30.22 | Speedy2 | bibe: Win2000 sees the card fine, so it does work |
| 10:30.36 | david__ | chealer : (forget the) ? |
| 10:30.56 | saloxin | anyone else having a dead freshclam after logrotation using debian volatile? |
| 10:31.21 | david__ | chealer : i look quick on a other PC with repo... |
| 10:31.45 | chealer | david__: it shouldn't |
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| 10:32.06 | inetd | jm_: you there mate? |
| 10:32.28 | bibe | Speedy2 : did you compile your own kernel? |
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| 10:34.12 | david__ | chealer : I have found the package ;-) Now install it, no reposite needs |
| 10:34.35 | david__ | chealer : I had not been good look first time... |
| 10:35.12 | Speedy2 | bibe: Yes, compiled my own kernel |
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| 10:36.26 | bibe | Speedy2 : did you set both CONFIG_WAVELAN and CONFIG_PCMCIA_WAVELAN as 'y'? |
| 10:36.36 | david__ | chealer : I have installed this package, what i could to do now ? |
| 10:36.41 | Speedy2 | bibe: Let me go grep the config, can you hold on for a second? |
| 10:36.41 | epsilon | in kernel 2.6.15, should I compile the CRC16/32 stuff in "Library routines"? There is no recommendation in the help |
| 10:36.48 | bibe | Speedy2 : sure |
| 10:37.08 | lawnchair | is free-java-sdk any good heh |
| 10:37.16 | beardy | epsilon: why are you compiling anyway if you don't know what you need? |
| 10:37.18 | lawnchair | or should i just d/l official java from sun for developemnt |
| 10:37.28 | EdLin | lawnchair: /msg dpkg java |
| 10:37.38 | lawnchair | EdLin, thanks big guy i read that iw as lookin for personal opinion |
| 10:37.47 | chealer_ | david__: I'm not sure. last time I installed it, the menu didn't appear immediately. maybe I had to restart KDE |
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| 10:38.17 | EdLin | lawnchair: the only way to know for sure is to determine if your application works |
| 10:38.19 | Speedy2 | bibe: They were both set to module |
| 10:38.29 | lawnchair | EdLin, youre #1! |
| 10:38.43 | boukensya | hey guys. I just recently installed debian testing and when I install packages it keeps saying that Untrusted packages could compromise my systems security, and I have to type in Yes for it to continue, how do I get rid of this? |
| 10:38.47 | EdLin | lawnchair: don't be an asshole |
| 10:39.11 | lawnchair | watch it |
| 10:39.15 | liable | !annoy EdLin |
| 10:39.16 | EdLin | boukensya: /topic |
| 10:39.20 | ludi | How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them? |
| 10:39.22 | david__ | chearler_ : Surely thankx for you're help, so i restart KDE and i come back. Re thankx for the support and we see of it help :-) |
| 10:39.22 | liable | weak |
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| 10:39.27 | bibe | Speedy2 : I have to go away for 5-10 minutes... |
| 10:39.35 | liable | @annoy EdLin |
| 10:39.39 | chealer_ | david__: no problem |
| 10:39.41 | Speedy2 | bibe: Ok. Can you /msg me when you get back? |
| 10:39.43 | liable | fuck sake |
| 10:39.48 | liable | :( |
| 10:40.00 | beardy | !irritate liable |
| 10:40.00 | dpkg | liable: HELP ME!!! who uses gnome !!!1 |
| 10:40.04 | liable | EdLin: HOW TO THIS !?! |
| 10:40.07 | jm_ | inetd: yes |
| 10:40.11 | liable | @hi |
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| 10:40.17 | EdLin | !kingsleysmite liable |
| 10:40.17 | dpkg | Citizen Volunteer liable: Your Productivity* Rating has fallen below 0.585343188231008! This is unacceptable. Please report to http://www.nas.com/~change/private/irc/ for immediate termination! |
| 10:40.31 | liable | where is ravenbird when you want it? |
| 10:40.47 | raf256 | !pal liable |
| 10:40.55 | boukensya | okay, how does the topic help me? |
| 10:41.21 | epsilon | beardy: cause I want a kernel with only stuff I need |
| 10:41.38 | raf256 | !smite dpkg |
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| 10:41.47 | boukensya | oh, is it this keyserver stuff? |
| 10:42.19 | liable | boukensya: um, is that your problem? then yes.. |
| 10:42.20 | EdLin | boukensya: two dpkg factoids concerning your problem are in the /topic |
| 10:43.08 | boukensya | I am confused.. I checked from the /msg dpkg 2006 key and /msg dpkg debian security and I still don't understand it |
| 10:43.11 | ludi | How do I get greek text to show up in Greek letters instead of characters that look like boxes with numbers and letters in them? |
| 10:43.20 | liable | !lose boukensya |
| 10:43.21 | dpkg | boukensya: You Lose. |
| 10:43.22 | beardy | epsilon: If you don't need the CRC stuff, then don't include it. |
| 10:43.23 | EdLin | boukensya: /msg dpkg *apt* secure |
| 10:43.44 | Guerin | ludi: choose the appropriate locale |
| 10:44.11 | ludi | Guerin: what if I want my locale to remain US English, but I still would like to see the Greek letters in their proper form? |
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| 10:44.53 | beardy | ludi: Set the correct LC vars correctly. |
| 10:45.03 | Guerin | ludi: choose a unicode locale and a unicode font capable of displaying greek letters |
| 10:45.20 | Guerin | en.US_utf-8 |
| 10:45.47 | liable | wait for it.. |
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| 10:47.46 | liable | hrm, bed || beer.. |
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| 10:48.18 | licre | hey all |
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| 10:48.42 | epsilon | liable: bed && woman |
| 10:49.03 | liable | epsilon: no womans, so beer wins. |
| 10:50.03 | EdLin | liable: sleep || die |
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| 10:50.31 | xored | is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ? |
| 10:50.42 | liable | EdLin: erm, no, there is a missing option there.. |
| 10:50.53 | licre | psybnc? |
| 10:51.00 | boukensya | cool, so I found out about it, how can I disable it? |
| 10:51.05 | boukensya | the apt secure thing |
| 10:51.33 | EdLin | liable: sleep || die "Yawn!" |
| 10:51.33 | epsilon | dunno if psybnc is doing sth special, but usualy you connect with an irc-client to the box where the bnc is running... |
| 10:52.24 | liable | EdLin: beer || sleep >> eventually die? |
| 10:52.28 | epsilon | and if the bnc-server supports ssh, tunnel via it |
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| 10:52.56 | EdLin | liable: no matter which option you pick there's eventually die. ;-) |
| 10:53.17 | liable | hrm, true |
| 10:53.21 | licre | what dies? |
| 10:53.37 | epsilon | ubuntu dies |
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| 10:53.50 | EdLin | !win epsilon |
| 10:53.50 | dpkg | Congratulations, epsilon! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 10:53.57 | licre | ubuntu == non-free debian? |
| 10:54.00 | liable | so, drink more beer in case you die tomorrow? |
| 10:54.08 | EdLin | licre: no, it's free too |
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| 10:55.02 | _rene_ | not really. they e.g build the OOo help using the non-free jars and then pack it |
| 10:55.06 | epsilon | debian | non-free > ubuntu |
| 10:55.24 | xored | is there a way to get xchat tunning with a psybnc ? |
| 10:55.43 | _rene_ | xored: you don't? :) use ssh, screen and irssi :P |
| 10:55.51 | SlayerXP | xored: type /part #debian; /join #xchat |
| 10:55.53 | licre | xored , ... |
| 10:55.54 | mkl1525 | Hi, is there any recommendable literature/website that deals with installing and administrating a ldap server? |
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| 10:56.02 | _rene_ | xored: bouncer are insane. you son't need them |
| 10:56.35 | licre | xchat's console mode > irssi ? |
| 10:56.35 | ludi | beardy: Guerin: Would you please advise on what steps to take in order to make this accomplishment? Thanks. |
| 10:56.41 | xored | _rene_: so they ar ? .. |
| 10:56.57 | xored | SlayerXP: thank you, i did not thought about, maybe its to early |
| 10:56.58 | EdLin | LCamel_: no, irssi is much better than xchat for terminals |
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| 10:57.07 | EdLin | er, licre |
| 10:57.30 | liable | you cant even run xchat in a term.. |
| 10:57.34 | xored | iam not the "anything in terminals" madness user.. |
| 10:57.41 | licre | hehe |
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| 10:58.06 | xored | its like running a car by battery...or with cole like in the old times |
| 10:58.15 | Guerin | coal |
| 10:58.17 | liable | coal |
| 10:58.21 | Guerin | and cars never ran on coal |
| 10:58.33 | EdLin | xored: irssi has more features than xchat |
| 10:58.35 | liable | Guerin: ww2 they did :) |
| 10:58.37 | ludi | Guerin: That is, how do I "choose a unicode locale and a unicode font capable of displaying greek letters"? Thanks. |
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| 10:58.56 | liable | Guerin: there was cars that burnt any shit they could get there hands on :) |
| 10:59.07 | liable | !irritate jethro |
| 10:59.07 | jm_ | such as tanks |
| 10:59.07 | dpkg | jethro: is there ne1 who cn answer my n00b q? where cn I get w4arez 4 debina lol U FUX0RZ |
| 10:59.11 | Guerin | ludi: bitstream fonts have good unicode support. to choose a locale, run dpkg-reconfigure locales; |
| 10:59.17 | licre | the u-boat used batterys |
| 10:59.26 | xored | EdLin: havin more features is one side, being useable the other. Some ppl forget about usabilty while developing |
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| 10:59.36 | Guerin | liable: well, there are cars which run on solar power, but it's not correct to say cars run on solar power |
| 10:59.40 | liable | licre: and charged em with deisel.. |
| 10:59.43 | jethro | @annoy liable |
| 10:59.49 | EdLin | xored: I find irssi *very* usable |
| 10:59.51 | liable | Guerin: yeah, but.. |
| 10:59.51 | jethro | mm no ravenbird |
| 10:59.58 | liable | jethro: you lose! :) |
| 10:59.58 | Guerin | liable: yeah. |
| 11:00.03 | _rene_ | xored: yes, they are not needed |
| 11:00.04 | jethro | liable: :) |
| 11:00.19 | xored | _rene_: what is not needed ? |
| 11:00.21 | _rene_ | xored: if you have aserver you ran run a bouncer on, so ycan run a sshd on them, too |
| 11:00.26 | _rene_ | xored: bouncers |
| 11:00.28 | Guerin | xored: use what you like, just don't whine to us about it. |
| 11:00.38 | _rene_ | xored: and if you can run a sshd on them you can use a screen'ed irssi |
| 11:00.45 | licre | EdLin ,Does irssi has colours? |
| 11:00.47 | ludi | Guerin: I am unclear on the concept of "locales". What does this accomplish? |
| 11:00.51 | EdLin | licre: yes |
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| 11:01.03 | xored | _rene_: sure. But you still need aserver |
| 11:01.11 | EdLin | licre: though you can turn them off if you don't like 'em |
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| 11:01.21 | xored | iam not going to use mine for things like IRC, just because its not that secure |
| 11:01.38 | david__ | Are there things that i must installed for my laptop. Like an icon that idicate power or batt. |
| 11:01.46 | Guerin | ludi: a locale is something you choose which tells the computer what language and character set to use |
| 11:02.03 | xored | Guerin: maybe you should look after the defintion of disscussing, flaming or whining.. |
| 11:02.12 | _rene_ | xored: you need one to run your bouncer on anyways |
| 11:02.20 | ludi | Guerin: so it is either one or the other? what happens if I choose greek locale, but view english pages? |
| 11:02.28 | Guerin | ludi: examples are en.NZ_UTF-8; english language (new zealand dialect), utf-8 character set |
| 11:02.32 | _rene_ | xored: that's no argument |
| 11:02.37 | EdLin | dictionaries are the last refuge of a troll |
| 11:02.39 | Guerin | xored: maybe you should look up the defiinition of usability |
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| 11:02.52 | licre | some OSs have no 'locale' command :( |
| 11:02.53 | Guerin | my favourite quote on usability is from 'man evilwm' |
| 11:03.06 | xored | _rene_: sure, but i can use a "third-class" bouncer |
| 11:03.07 | Guerin | BUGS |
| 11:03.07 | Guerin | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.23 | ludi | Guerin: is unicode the same as utf-8? |
| 11:03.24 | Cratos | Hello everybody, when I print via CUPS the text looks just fine but all my pictures are grainy. I print from XP ( via Samba ) and OSX ( direct CUPS ) to a HP 5mp Laser Printer. |
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| 11:03.36 | licre | Guerin : evilwm? |
| 11:03.38 | Guerin | ludi: utf-8 is one implementation of unicode, yes |
| 11:03.47 | Guerin | licre: it's so good, it's evil. |
| 11:04.07 | ludi | Guerin: I am having difficultly locating the locale for greek |
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| 11:04.31 | licre | Guerin : I think fvwm is 'evil' enough :) |
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| 11:04.47 | Guerin | ludi: unless you want all language to be greek, you don't want to choose a greek locale; the whole point of unicode is that you can use one character set to display characters in any language |
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| 11:05.18 | jm_ | Cratos: is it the same in both cases? btw, you can print directly to CUPS with XP too |
| 11:05.25 | Guerin | ludi: so if you want to have everything be american english, but you also want to see unicode characters in other languages, choose en.US-UTF-8 in dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 11:05.36 | Guerin | ludi: or export LANG=en.US-UTF-8 |
| 11:05.40 | Cratos | jm, yes |
| 11:05.48 | jm_ | Cratos: and if you print locally? |
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| 11:06.40 | ludi | Guerin: thanks |
| 11:06.42 | Cratos | jm_, the server has no software installed from which I can print ( Yet ) |
| 11:06.48 | dvm1981 | Are there tools to control the fan of my CPU on my laptop ? Some time he would be work and it's not good... |
| 11:07.07 | jm_ | Cratos: well might be worth trying to print to a file on Windows/Mac and then print it in raw mode locally |
| 11:07.07 | liable | !laptop |
| 11:07.07 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
| 11:07.22 | liable | dvm1981: ^^ |
| 11:07.26 | jm_ | dvm1981: ACPI tools, lm-sensors also have some tool, not sure if it works or not |
| 11:07.33 | liable | dvm1981: read others experirences.. |
| 11:07.38 | ludi | Guerin: must I restart X to effect this change? |
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| 11:08.00 | Cratos | jm_, it used to work just fine, but then I upgraded to Debian 3.1 |
| 11:08.02 | liable | hah, i need an irssi spelling plugin :) |
| 11:08.08 | Guerin | ludi: you need to restart any apps which need to use the new locale. |
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| 11:08.35 | ludi | Guerin: and aside from choosing en.US-UTF-8, must I change my fonts (I am using the default font setup from debian 'etch') |
| 11:08.47 | liable | but then i cant annoy others when i say your instead of you're |
| 11:09.17 | Guerin | ludi: the same font might work, given the correct locale |
| 11:09.31 | dvm1981 | I have read the info about my 'Compaq Armada 1750' on 'Linux on laptop', there say that there are problems with ACPI, sinds i used the fan not work correctly, and there on the site say that i must be use APM to correct it. How to ? |
| 11:09.40 | scx | hello |
| 11:09.49 | Guerin | ludi: of course, all this presumes what you're trying to read is utf-8 encoded; not some strange greek locale |
| 11:10.03 | jm_ | load APM modules instead of ACPI |
| 11:10.19 | scx | Just a fast quiz: Is there out something alike to drupal or xoops made for PostgreSQL instead of MySQL ? |
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| 11:10.39 | dvm1981 | Fot the developpers, when i disconnect the power cable for 5 minutes and put it again, the fan agian run, oefffff |
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| 11:11.27 | Guerin | hrm, I can't recall where to set my locale as a user |
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| 11:11.36 | Guerin | .bashrc? |
| 11:11.42 | Cratos | jm_, do you know another place where I could get a answer to my cups issue, the cups channel seems to be dead |
| 11:12.02 | dvm1981 | So but how i can force with APM that my fan of the CPU continuesly run? |
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| 11:12.30 | liable | dvm1981: add acpi=off at boot, remove acpid and install apmd |
| 11:12.50 | tiny | Hi! When installing a package with apt-get how do I find out what packages will be installed. I need this before instalation procedure gets started becouse my system is very small in terms of space. |
| 11:13.21 | jm_ | Cratos: the are some news groups for CUPS |
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| 11:13.29 | dvm1981 | liable : How i add the line acpi=off and where i do that ? Thx |
| 11:13.41 | chealer_ | tiny: you check apt-get's output |
| 11:13.45 | liable | dvm1981: in grub menu.lst |
| 11:13.49 | jm_ | Cratos: alternatively, check the configuration and find out if printing in raw mode helps |
| 11:13.57 | ludi | Guerin: this greek text (halfway down the page) does not display correctly on my browser (epiphany). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicene_Creed#The_original_Nicene_Creed_of_325 |
| 11:14.03 | liable | dvm1981: add it to the "kernel" line |
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| 11:14.34 | dvm1981 | liable : Thx, i look now. Euhw how to the kernel line ? |
| 11:14.36 | tiny | chealer_: but I need to know what packages will it install before it starts installing them |
| 11:14.38 | ludi | guerin: neither does a simple http://www.google.com.gr/ |
| 11:14.50 | chealer_ | tiny: same answer |
| 11:14.51 | tiny | chealer_: ah ok .. I get it |
| 11:14.56 | jm_ | ludi: display fine for me and I use default locale ... |
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| 11:15.26 | Jake | ooh got my scsi drives working finally!!! ooeer!!! |
| 11:15.32 | liable | dvm1981: the one that says root=/dev/xx add it to the end of that line |
| 11:15.45 | liable | !congratulate Jake |
| 11:15.45 | dpkg | Hugs & Puppies Jake, you did it! |
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| 11:16.00 | ludi | jm_: which displays fine? http://www.google.com.gr/ |
| 11:16.22 | Jake | could someone be so kind as too give me a rough estimation of howmuch space a default server'ish installation will use? |
| 11:16.23 | dvm1981 | liable : I do not understand, sorry can you clarify please ;-) |
| 11:16.23 | jm_ | ludi: wikipedia |
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| 11:16.56 | dvm1981 | liable : Where is stored the file 'menu.list'? |
| 11:17.21 | jm_ | ludi: google doesn't really work for me as I have no Korean fonts installed, Japanese version does |
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| 11:17.47 | liable | dvm1981: /boot/grub/menu.lst the kernel line is something like this.. kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.8-2-386 root=/dev/md0 ro |
| 11:17.50 | ludi | jm_: are you using en.US-UTF-8 locale? |
| 11:18.26 | jm_ | ludi: I said I am using default locale |
| 11:18.48 | dvm1981 | liable : Thx i look now |
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| 11:19.06 | Guerin | ludi: web browsers are a different kettle of fish, since they have to be able to display many dfifferent encodings simultaneously. You can configure the default languages, fonts and so on in firefox. FWIW, those pages display fine for me using firefox, with the default set to 'unicode' and the page set to 'auto detect' |
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| 11:20.12 | ludi | Guerin: maybe a problem with epiphany then |
| 11:20.40 | djp | if i am going to type up a document (pretty straight forward with only a little formatting) that needs to be opened by someone using microsoft office, would i be better off creating said document with openoffice writer rather than abiword? |
| 11:20.40 | dvm1981 | Liable : flush# |
| 11:20.54 | liable | excuse me? |
| 11:21.08 | Guerin | ludi: should still have worthwhile encoding options |
| 11:21.45 | liable | dvm1981: #flood?? |
| 11:22.02 | ludi | Guerin: epiphany has a selection for setting Unicode for the language under the Fonts section |
| 11:22.06 | dvm1981 | I have look in the file and found the line withe the kerel... and on the last on the line there are vga=771 so i add acpi=off after this ? |
| 11:22.17 | liable | dvm1981: yes |
| 11:22.22 | ludi | Guerin: by default it's set to western. I changed to Unicode, made no difference. |
| 11:22.48 | Guerin | ludi: change font, then. I'm using bitstream vera sans |
| 11:22.53 | dvm1981 | liable : i would like to paste, so i test the (flush) |
| 11:23.06 | liable | dvm1981: #flood |
| 11:23.13 | liable | dvm1981: /j #flood |
| 11:23.26 | dvm1981 | liable : oeps ;-) |
| 11:23.38 | dvm1981 | the bad command :-) |
| 11:24.11 | ludi | Guerin: is bitstream vera sans a serif or sans-serif font |
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| 11:24.45 | ludi | Guerin: tried this in firefox, still not workin |
| 11:24.53 | liable | dvm1981: you have lost me, i dont know what you want to do.. |
| 11:25.23 | dvm1981 | liable : Sorry, you have help me (and wait to help)... |
| 11:25.24 | Guerin | ludi: dunno, then. I'm not really a locale geek. Probably best to ask someone multilingual. |
| 11:25.46 | dvm1981 | liable : I needs now to re |
| 11:25.58 | liable | boot??? |
| 11:25.58 | dvm1981 | liable : i needs to reboot now ? |
| 11:26.09 | liable | yep |
| 11:26.16 | amaia | hi |
| 11:26.20 | ludi | Guerin: but when you go to http://www.google.com/intl/el/ do you see any boxes with numbers and letters? Or, do all characters show up properly in Greek? |
| 11:26.23 | liable | or just unload the acpi modules.. |
| 11:26.27 | amaia | anyone got a vpn server on debian, the easy way? |
| 11:26.28 | liable | dvm1981: ^^ |
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| 11:26.40 | dvm1981 | liable : Sorry im here on my laptop and i not use it frequently... |
| 11:26.49 | jm_ | ludi: what do you think does the word sans in Bitstream Vera Sans imply? |
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| 11:26.54 | liable | dvm1981: sure, just reboot. |
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| 11:27.13 | dvm1981 | liable : You're good man :-) |
| 11:27.23 | ludi | jm_: it's not helpful for you to point out how I ask stupid questions |
| 11:27.28 | liable | dvm1981: i keep telling people that.. |
| 11:27.32 | djp | would i be better off creating a document that needs to be opened in microsoft word with openoffice writer or will abiword be capable? both are installed by default with my desktop install of debian 3.1 |
| 11:27.39 | jm_ | ludi: it also contains the answer ... |
| 11:28.04 | ludi | jm_: that Bitstream Vera Sans is a sans-serif font |
| 11:28.05 | dvm1981 | People see that here :-) that you help |
| 11:28.14 | jm_ | ludi: you're a smart cookie ;) |
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| 11:28.38 | ludi | but greek fonts do not display correctly still. using firefox or epiphany, with unicode fonts selected. |
| 11:29.32 | jm_ | they work just fine for me, you must be missing some fonts or have wrong font-path |
| 11:29.34 | dvm1981 | liable : I yes, not forget to remove acpi and add apm befor reboot, i forget it |
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| 11:29.56 | dvm1981 | liable : so doing now |
| 11:29.59 | liable | dvm1981: remove acpid, install apmd |
| 11:30.03 | doublehp_ | nccc |
| 11:30.18 | ludi | jm_: how would I check that my font system is working correctly? |
| 11:30.24 | tarzeau | !seen abrotman |
| 11:30.25 | dpkg | abrotman <n=abrotman@pdpc/supporter/active/abrotman> was last seen on IRC in channel #debian, 7h 17m 6s ago, saying: '!tell mrmistik1 about sdn'. |
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| 11:30.55 | liable | tarzeau: he'll be up soon :) |
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| 11:31.35 | amaia | no vpn gurus :) |
| 11:31.41 | dvm1981 | liable : Done, i reboot now ;-) thx for the help :-) i come back |
| 11:31.49 | liable | ok |
| 11:32.00 | Cratos | jm_ I solved my issue, it seems that after installation it was set to 300DPI, I was able to change it to 600DPI and now everything looks ok |
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| 11:34.00 | ludi | Guerin: jm_: which encoding should I select? ISO-8859-1 or ISO-8859-15 |
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| 11:34.21 | ludi | Guerin: jm_: or Unicode UTF-8? |
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| 11:38.23 | ludi | does cp -a include files that start with . |
| 11:38.30 | dvm1981 | im back there :-) |
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| 11:39.40 | Arnald | Every time I use modprobe I get lots of lines like: "WARNING: Failed to open config file /etc/modprobe.d//arch-aliases: Too many open files" |
| 11:39.55 | Arnald | This is from a fresh install |
| 11:40.03 | liable | of? |
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| 11:40.12 | Arnald | liable: Debian ;) |
| 11:40.25 | Arnald | Sarge installer, upgraded to etch |
| 11:40.41 | Arnald | Nothing on Google or bug-tracking system |
| 11:40.52 | beardy | Then it not "fresh".. |
| 11:41.17 | beardy | it's |
| 11:41.17 | dvm1981 | liable : I think there are nothings change, my fan of the cpu not work |
| 11:41.18 | Arnald | beardy: OK, but I did not have too much time to mess with it |
| 11:41.35 | liable | dvm1981: bugger, have a lokk in your bios. |
| 11:41.39 | liable | look.. |
| 11:41.45 | Arnald | I reinstalled because I had the same problem with my old build |
| 11:42.02 | beardy | build? |
| 11:42.24 | Arnald | I suppose it's some mismatch between kernel/module-init-tools/udev or something |
| 11:42.26 | dvm1981 | Yes, there i can desactivate ACPI an set APM what i have do |
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| 11:42.31 | Arnald | beardy: system build |
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| 11:42.35 | liable | dvm1981: i gotta go, good luck. |
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| 11:43.14 | Vlat | Hi |
| 11:43.40 | beardy | Arnald: Tell us which kernel you are running, and if it's compiled by you, or a stock kernel. |
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| 11:44.02 | ludi | how do i use the cdrecord command to blank a CDRW? |
| 11:44.13 | Arnald | Stock kernel, was 2.6.12-k7, just tried 2.6.15-k7 |
| 11:44.20 | dvm1981 | liable : But i have chance, i have remarqued that when hi turn not, put the power cable out for 5 minutes and put it again, then the fan run again for so 2 a 3 hours |
| 11:44.20 | neko | ludi: cdrecord blank=fast |
| 11:44.37 | beardy | ludi: The manual is very good. |
| 11:44.58 | streuner | ludi: what's that *HARD* to read man cdrecord? |
| 11:45.05 | ootput | does anyone know an alternative to alsamixer that provides the same basic functionality, and whose layout is similar? |
| 11:45.25 | streuner | aumix? |
| 11:45.34 | beardy | Not alsa AFAIK. |
| 11:45.42 | streuner | !depends alsamixer |
| 11:45.44 | Arnald | beardy: if I make a modprobe.conf containing "include /etc/modprobe.d" the nine errors reduce to 2 |
| 11:45.48 | streuner | beardy: bullshit |
| 11:45.54 | dvm1981 | liable : So that is all a good thing so i can work on it and do some things on it, and not forget to try to find a sollution so a could or someone added to 'linux on laptop' for this model. |
| 11:46.03 | streuner | dvm1981: liable is gone. |
| 11:46.24 | dvm1981 | oh, i have not see it :-( |
| 11:46.26 | streuner | aumix just runs fine with ALSA |
| 11:46.59 | beardy | stew: Then wtf does alsamixer exist? |
| 11:47.10 | tiny | Has anyone tried to setup grub to a CF card that is seen to the system as ide device(in my example hdc)? |
| 11:47.13 | ludi | beardy: streuner: it would be nice if the gnome interface included this option |
| 11:47.13 | dvm1981 | Is there stuff that i could use with APM to view the status of fan and temp ? |
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| 11:47.48 | ootput | dvm1981: i2c's are much more capable |
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| 11:48.21 | inetd | aterm cant handle aa fonts? |
| 11:48.23 | dvm1981 | ootput : i look for it, thx |
| 11:48.23 | beardy | fucking tabcompletion.. |
| 11:48.47 | jm_ | ludi: I have it set to Western, but it works fine for Japanese/Greek pages too |
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| 11:49.10 | inetd | jm_: do you have your Xdefault on the net? |
| 11:49.35 | streuner | ludi: there is a GTK based one, but i don't remember the name, just run 'apt-cache search mixer' |
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| 11:50.03 | jm_ | inetd: not really |
| 11:50.37 | beardy | There's only a tk aumix IIRC. |
| 11:50.58 | streuner | !info gnome-alsamixer |
| 11:51.02 | dpkg | gnome-alsamixer: (ALSA sound mixer for GNOME), section gnome, is optional. Version: 0.9.6-3 (sid), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
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| 11:51.40 | saerdna_ | is there any way to do dpkg --list with full names of the packages? |
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| 11:52.18 | streuner | ludi: aumix-gtk |
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| 11:54.00 | streuner | seerdna_: COLUMNS=200 dpkg -l |
| 11:54.34 | streuner | saerdna_: ^^^^ |
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| 11:56.49 | aeronadix | Can someone explain how to use xawtv with my webcam? I am getting error /dev/video0 : no such device or directory |
| 11:57.31 | bobbens | Has anyone gotten the r300 driver working in debian or can feed me a howto link? |
| 11:57.59 | streuner | bobbens: ATI? |
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| 11:58.08 | bobbens | streuner: yes, but open source driver |
| 11:58.19 | streuner | bobbens: what version of debian? |
| 11:58.23 | bobbens | streuner: SID |
| 11:58.48 | streuner | bobbens: read changelog of 6.9 xorg then |
| 11:58.54 | SeicherlBoB | hi there! My syslog is exploding cause i get millions of pptp anon log-errors about "disduplicate or old packet xxxxx (expecting yyyyy)" Whats happening there?! |
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| 11:59.12 | streuner | bobbens: some ATI cards are better supported of course |
| 11:59.17 | Gnea | SeicherlBoB: PPTP is malfunctioning. |
| 11:59.44 | bobbens | streuner: it should be supported, but i'm having alot of trouble getting it working. xorg log says direct rendering is enabled, but glxinfo says it isnt... |
| 11:59.51 | SeicherlBoB | Gnea: well, as you see its basicly working. but how shall i fix that |
| 12:00.23 | Gnea | SeicherlBoB: dunno, never used PPTP, i think there's a howto to properly set it up, though |
| 12:01.01 | SeicherlBoB | Gnea: I googled for the error and all i found was a couple of unanswered question and some advice i don't understand |
| 12:01.26 | SeicherlBoB | Gnea: something about LCP config |
| 12:01.32 | aeronadix | what are other possibilities that my debian system is using for a video device name, besides /dev/video0 |
| 12:01.59 | bobbens | streuner: it says full 3d support for the r3xx series and i have the rv350 so i'm guessing it is supported as alot of people have gotten radeosn 9600 working, but for example if i enable "exa" acceleration x.org freezes on me with distortion |
| 12:03.04 | streuner | bobbens: Isn't 300 a PCI-e ? |
| 12:03.09 | Gnea | SeicherlBoB: as i said, maybe you need to re-read the original howto for setting it up: http://pptpclient.sourceforge.net/howto-debian.phtml |
| 12:03.13 | tarzeau | no msn for debian with webcam and audio support? |
| 12:03.30 | SeicherlBoB | Gnea: thx for that link. i will check that. |
| 12:03.32 | bobbens | streuner: no, r300 is radeon 9500 or 9700, while 9600 is r350, all which are AGP if i remember correctly (well at least mine is) |
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| 12:03.53 | bobbens | aeronadix: do you have the webcam installed? |
| 12:04.15 | streuner | bobbens: 3D should be supported then, IIRC |
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| 12:05.01 | aeronadix | bobbens, yeap, I have pwc, and it is running when I do lsmod |
| 12:05.11 | bobbens | streuner: it should, i'm trying to figure out how to activate it, since it isn't working for me >< dpkg-reconfigure doesn't do anything and playing around with the device settings gives me more crashes then anything else. And since this is pretty new there is an extreme lack of guides online |
| 12:05.44 | saerdna_ | streuner: thx |
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| 12:05.50 | S4nD3r | I created a bookmark in epiphany, and I dont know how to export this one to firefox... is it possible :??? |
| 12:05.54 | bobbens | aeronadix: try reloading the module, i had to compile mine for a quickcam, but once i had it done, it works fine and creates a /dev/video0 everytime |
| 12:06.10 | bobbens | aeronadix: see what the logs say after loading the module |
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| 12:07.29 | aeronadix | bobbens, ok |
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| 12:08.06 | aeronadix | bobbens, which log? |
| 12:08.35 | mkl1525 | Hi, I've got a sshd and a vsftpd running. When I connect to the ftp I get into my local home dir, is there any way to get me into the default ftp dir that is not in my home directory? |
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| 12:08.47 | bobbens | aeronadix: dmesg |
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| 12:10.47 | aeronadix | the pesky variants are gonna take over the world, run for your life |
| 12:11.33 | Jake | is software raid a bad journey too take? looks fragile |
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| 12:12.27 | fireba11 | jake not a lot more fragile than hardware |
| 12:12.55 | pequeno | vc de ve ser muita gostosa |
| 12:13.08 | Jake | you end up with a /dev/md1 ... does that mean /dev/hda1 still exists? and someone can stuffup and edit a file and not put it thru the raid software? |
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| 12:16.29 | aeronadix | bobbens, yeah, so if I didn't get a /dev/video0, then my driver isn't working. But I thought if I do modprobe pwc successfully, then it works, maybe it just named the video device something else |
| 12:17.13 | rambo3 | /dev/le'video0 if its a french card |
| 12:17.31 | aeronadix | I pasted my dmesg for pwc in #flood |
| 12:18.09 | aeronadix | rambo3, no mine is english, I don't like those frenchies |
| 12:19.19 | aeronadix | rambo3, just kidding, I like frenchies |
| 12:19.34 | aeronadix | rambo3, Bonjour, C'mon Cava? |
| 12:19.50 | aeronadix | rambo3, daccord |
| 12:19.58 | fallonme | aeronadix: do you like them with mayonnaise too? |
| 12:20.03 | Jake | setting up software raid with the sarge installer is confusing as :( |
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| 12:20.34 | aeronadix | fallonme, moutard |
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| 12:22.35 | rambo3 | honda accord too you too |
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| 12:24.04 | Jake | im trying too figureout sw raiding :( .. if i have 2 drives, i want too mirror hda1,hda2 - do i create 1 or two "multidisk devices" ? |
| 12:24.33 | Jake | i assume i create partitions of the same size on hdb and then use the md thingo too join the hda1 -> hdb1 |
| 12:24.35 | Jake | O.o |
| 12:25.14 | aeronadix | rambo3, C'mon tapell tu |
| 12:25.40 | jm_ | Jake: read Software RAID howto |
| 12:29.42 | ootput | wow, gnome file chooser is driving me nuts |
| 12:29.53 | ootput | and i especially hate the fact that firefox is using it |
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| 12:31.18 | aeronadix | I wish there was more than just kde and gnome, something that was different than the traditional but had more new features. |
| 12:31.27 | Vlat | ootput: what's wrong with it ? |
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| 12:33.27 | jeffrin | hello all |
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| 12:33.39 | jeffrin | how to remove a directory from cvs |
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| 12:35.36 | diana | jeffrin: /join #cvs |
| 12:36.00 | diana | !tell jeffrin about cvs |
| 12:36.04 | threat | jeffrin, rm ${CVS_DIR} |
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| 12:36.23 | threat | s/'rm'/'rm -fr '/ |
| 12:36.51 | threat | apt, ? |
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| 12:37.43 | tiny | how come grub doesn't install stuff in /boot/grub? Is this specific to debian? |
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| 12:38.04 | epsilon | is it normal if mkfs.xfs takes only a half second to setup xfs in a partition? |
| 12:39.04 | epsilon | tiny: debian actually stores grub confiog in /boot/grub... |
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| 12:39.49 | tiny | epsilon: I installed grub and nothing happened in /boot ... I installed my system with debootstrap though |
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| 12:40.47 | epsilon | nothing happens on 'update-grub'? |
| 12:41.59 | epsilon | if unsure, take lilo *shrugs* |
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| 12:42.27 | ootput | tiny: are you sure /boot was mounted at the time? |
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| 12:43.43 | tiny | epsilon: nope nothing happens .. just some warrning stuff and further instructions that also doesnt work |
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| 12:44.22 | aeronadix | if someone help me work my webcam, I will show them my erection |
| 12:44.35 | atax | lol |
| 12:44.39 | blondie | aeronadix: orly |
| 12:44.39 | pequeno | vc ta conectada |
| 12:44.51 | diana | aeronadix: apt-get install gnomemeeting |
| 12:45.09 | pequeno | vc fala que liqua |
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| 12:45.18 | aeronadix | diana, no I need to get my driver configured, there is no /dev/video0 created |
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| 12:45.41 | pequeno | quem e Bart |
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| 12:46.06 | pequeno | va fui |
| 12:46.59 | Jake | i just setup raid via the sarge installer, ive rebooted and ended up with a blank screen - does it setup grub properly aswell? |
| 12:47.02 | inetd | some reason my urxvt doesnt tint in transparent mode |
| 12:47.08 | inetd | has anyone got this working? |
| 12:47.59 | aeronadix | diana, gnomemeeting is cool |
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| 12:49.11 | aeronadix | whats orly? |
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| 12:50.14 | aeronadix | a suburb of paris = orly |
| 12:50.27 | blondie | indeed |
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| 12:50.39 | blondie | aeronadix: it's an annoying way of saying "oh really" |
| 12:50.53 | blondie | but I like Paris, so it shouldn't be used :o |
| 12:50.59 | aeronadix | blondie, you got a webcam/ |
| 12:51.19 | blondie | yes |
| 12:51.28 | aeronadix | are you woman/ |
| 12:51.43 | blondie | no, I'm a cute sexy man |
| 12:51.52 | aeronadix | hehe |
| 12:52.08 | aeronadix | cubic zerconium, I want gold |
| 12:52.13 | blondie | erm right |
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| 12:54.11 | dvm1981 | I need to activate ACPI, so i need to recompile the kernel ? |
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| 12:54.54 | aeronadix | you gotta recompile for so many thing, recompliation is a necessary hurdle for mastering linux admin |
| 12:55.15 | aeronadix | dvm1981, I think you have acpi |
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| 12:56.05 | dfd | hello |
| 12:56.12 | blazefx | Hi |
| 12:56.13 | odb | hi, is there an application which can generate a PDF(i.e. page 10-15) out of an existing PDF |
| 12:56.17 | slept | dvm1981, you might have to add acpi=force as a boot option that helped for me on an old laptop |
| 12:56.23 | dvm1981 | when i have installed ACPI, he says that i must activate it in the kernel, i have not do that |
| 12:56.25 | aeronadix | unless you compiled a kernel w/out it. stock kernel should have it, although I don't know what it is |
| 12:56.50 | jm_ | odb: you can always convert it to PS and then use various PS utils |
| 12:56.54 | dvm1981 | slept : i will try it |
| 12:57.03 | blazefx | Advance Configuration and Power Interface |
| 12:57.22 | blazefx | jm_ Photoshop? |
| 12:57.27 | dfd | apt-get interrupted its upgrading for an error with dpkg.. I was upgrading to unstable.. I removed the package that gave problems since I don't need it, how can I continue the configure process that interrupted since a lot of packages now aren't configured? |
| 12:57.28 | blazefx | I didn't know there was a port. |
| 12:57.33 | Gnea | odb: any pdf viewer can do that |
| 12:57.47 | dvm1981 | when i use 'yacpi' he says its #flood |
| 12:57.55 | dvm1981 | when i use 'yacpi' he says its flood# |
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| 12:58.01 | Gnea | odb: just go to print it, tell it to print to a pdf file, then select what pages to print |
| 12:58.01 | blazefx | ? |
| 12:58.04 | dvm1981 | How to paste ? |
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| 12:58.23 | BradM | DANCE DANCE DANCE, GROOVE TO THE MUSIC |
| 12:58.26 | dvm1981 | david@laptop:~$ yacpi |
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| 12:58.26 | dvm1981 | This system does not support ACPI |
| 12:58.28 | jm_ | blazefx: PostScript |
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| 12:58.34 | blazefx | ahh |
| 12:58.48 | blazefx | lol |
| 12:58.52 | odb | Gnea: jm_ thx |
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| 12:59.23 | dvm1981 | How to activate ACPI, i think its not activate, how to check if it's active ? |
| 12:59.32 | Gnea | odb: some of fthem don't support pdf, so you may have to use postscript |
| 13:00.09 | dfd | bbl |
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| 13:00.48 | odb | xpdf exports ps, should fit my needs. thx again |
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| 13:02.57 | dvm1981 | slept : Is ACPI not activate default ? |
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| 13:03.40 | jethro | can I fetch packages from experimental using apt-get? or do I have to look at package.debian.org (which is down at the moment)? |
| 13:03.41 | slept | it is, but it gets dissabled on old hw |
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| 13:04.25 | aeronadix | jethro: you just edit /etc/apt/source.list from stable to unstable or sarge to sid, like that |
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| 13:04.42 | jethro | aeronadix: sid is not experimental |
| 13:04.48 | dvm1981 | slept : On my Compaq Armada 1750 i have some troubles withe the fan of my CPU, some times it will not be run. So when not fan running i must be put the power cable off for 5 minutes and put it again and the fan turn again |
| 13:04.50 | aeronadix | jethro, once you make change, you do apt-get update, and your now selected packages from ... |
| 13:04.52 | jethro | aeronadix: I'm already using sid. |
| 13:05.03 | aeronadix | jethro, well whatever the experimental are called dude |
| 13:05.04 | streuner | jethro: what package you need in order to blow your system, btw? |
| 13:05.06 | jethro | aeronadix: ok, if you don't understand the question, there's no point in answering |
| 13:05.09 | jpk | 5F | sudo apt-k |
| 13:05.12 | aeronadix | jethro, change from stable to unstable then |
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| 13:05.19 | jethro | streuner: suspend2, which is no longer in sid |
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| 13:05.23 | pumpkin0 | Hello. 2 Debian-boxs connected via ethernet. Box A has a serial (RS232) device connected to /dev/tty. How can box B access that device ? |
| 13:05.24 | jpk | 869010908312 |
| 13:05.27 | jethro | aeronadix: I _AM_ using sid |
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| 13:05.47 | aeronadix | jethro, Screw off |
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| 13:05.54 | jethro | aeronadix: idiot ... |
| 13:06.18 | DeadS0ul` | hello |
| 13:06.25 | aeronadix | jethro, jackass |
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| 13:06.37 | jethro | aeronadix: you don't have to hide your lack of understanding and knowledge with insults |
| 13:06.40 | DeadS0ul` | doe sanyone here have any expereicne with software raids and kernel upgrades? |
| 13:07.16 | aeronadix | I told you how to do it, whether you are changing from sid to you mom's ass was besides the point, those were just examples of how to do it |
| 13:07.16 | slept | dvm1981, I don't know, that shouldn't happen |
| 13:07.19 | dvm1981 | My fan of my CPU has just turn off, how turn it on again ? |
| 13:07.46 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: are you sure the HW is still OK ? |
| 13:07.46 | oz__ | moin |
| 13:08.10 | dvm1981 | slept : I have read that there are some stupid bugs on my BIOS concern the ACPI |
| 13:08.37 | jethro | aeronadix: ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/dists/ can you see anything called "experimental" there? |
| 13:08.53 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : Yes, it's this buggy BIOS that not are OK, but how should it receive OK ? |
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| 13:09.05 | jethro | I guess I just have to wait for pdo to be up again |
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| 13:09.40 | saerdna_ | where can i read about differences between sarge, stable, testing, experimental, sid, proposed updates .. ? |
| 13:09.51 | aeronadix | jethro, yeah go suck you mom's ass meanwhile |
| 13:09.54 | jethro | !ops aeronadix should behave better, in compliance with the channel rules, and not insult people |
| 13:09.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: aeronadix should behave better, in compliance with the channel rules, and not insult people |
| 13:09.59 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: So the fan (the piece of hardware) is OK, it's just the acpi which hangs ? Did you try using apm ? |
| 13:11.11 | aeronadix | jethro, so you already know about "apt-get update"? |
| 13:11.21 | jethro | aeronadix: no, please tell me |
| 13:11.29 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : Yes, i know that it's ... but i have read today on http://home.earthlink.net/~xinilux/compaq/#Fan it's possible to run the fan with ACPI |
| 13:12.37 | jethro | aeronadix: please school me with all you ejit debian skillz0rs |
| 13:12.38 | aeronadix | jethro, I already did |
| 13:12.38 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : With APM i have also some troubles ... And the fan wil not run correctly |
| 13:12.38 | jethro | aeronadix: you're not ejit enough then.. |
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| 13:13.07 | pumpkin0 | OK. Did you try using these patches/fixes on your kernel ? |
| 13:13.58 | inetd | does anyone here use rxvt? |
| 13:14.07 | inetd | or urxvt |
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| 13:15.01 | dvm1981 | Have do some tests, i reboot and comme back |
| 13:15.28 | inetd | hello? any urxvt users here? |
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| 13:20.23 | wam | Hi! What is the reason why debian/sarge/php4 doesn't use php's garbage collector? Why is /etc/cron.d/php4 used? |
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| 13:22.11 | tiny | I have a debian based distro installed on a compact flash card which I need to preserve as much as possible. In order to do that I need to mount things read only. But some thing need to be writable. (/etc, home, root, /dev) ... How do I edit my fstab? |
| 13:23.17 | dvm1981 | Im back here, so fore these that have followed, now my ACPY is on :-) |
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| 13:23.49 | dvm1981 | How i can control the fan speed ? I would like Knoppix 3.9 set it so that the fan non stop run |
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| 13:24.42 | dvm1981 | Is there software to setup the speed of the CPU fan ? |
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| 13:25.13 | jojo | tiny, I'm not sure you can actually do such seperations, other than removing +w permission on all files and directories that should not be writeable.. I did something similiar a while a go though, and my solution was to put /tmp, /dev and some other directories that needed to be written to on ramdisk |
| 13:25.38 | jojo | tiny, And mounting the CF-card readonly |
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| 13:26.53 | orchid | inetd: what about urxvt? |
| 13:27.01 | kneet | If you have an ext3 filesystem that is smaller than it's partition table - how can you get the start/end cylinder (or block) that the filesystem is actually using (want to recreate the partition so that it is only just big enough for the filesystem |
| 13:27.16 | britt | is there any way I could run php commands via root? |
| 13:27.27 | jojo | I need to compile a custom kernel, and I am using md-raid and LVM, which in the default-kernel seems to be taken care of in the initrd. Is there a straighforward way to create such a new initrd, or could I even use the default one somehow? |
| 13:27.29 | tiny | jojo: I had something like this in mind for fstab http://rafb.net/paste/results/uAImkX59.html |
| 13:27.34 | blondie | britt: yes if you must |
| 13:27.39 | blondie | apt-get install php4-cli |
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| 13:27.59 | britt | blondie: and i dont have to add anything to the scripts? |
| 13:28.09 | blondie | "php4 script.php" |
| 13:28.26 | blondie | or add #!/path/to/php4 to the script and make it +x |
| 13:28.27 | britt | cool. |
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| 13:29.39 | fatal_ | jojo: when creating a custom kernel you can just as well compile everything you need to boot statically instead of modules... |
| 13:29.46 | nostradam | Hi Guys, |
| 13:29.46 | fatal_ | jojo: then there's no need for initrd. |
| 13:29.47 | nostradam | I have a debian box with 2 nics and made a dhcp server on this box. |
| 13:29.49 | nostradam | My problem in short is that when I let my laptop connect to my WLan, it receives an ipaddress from my dhcp server in my 172 range instead of my dhcp server in the 192 range. |
| 13:29.50 | nostradam | Because a picture speaks more that a thousand words, I made a jpeg of my networksetup: |
| 13:29.52 | nostradam | http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1237/wlansetup4zs.jpg |
| 13:29.53 | nostradam | Can anyone explain why my laptop isn't getting a dhcp address from my 192 dhcp server. |
| 13:29.53 | britt | !hi nostradam |
| 13:29.55 | nostradam | (dhcp server is configured and starting without errors) |
| 13:30.02 | nostradam | hi britt |
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| 13:30.10 | jojo | fatal_, The problem is the LVM-init (autodetection?), or can the kernel do that automatically? |
| 13:30.27 | jojo | fatal_, I have the root fs on an LVM volume |
| 13:30.29 | inetd | orchid: have you got it working with transparency + shading? |
| 13:30.36 | dvm1981 | Is there software to control the speed of the fan of the CPU ? |
| 13:30.41 | fatal_ | jojo: I don't know about that one... |
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| 13:30.51 | bibe | hi all. Is orinoco-based wireless driver/firmware completely opensource? I am looking for a pcmcia nic, possibly supporting monitor mode, to use with my laptop |
| 13:31.23 | orchid | inetd: yep, although I don't find it very readable, ive tried it |
| 13:31.34 | jojo | fatal_, Oh, well it's really awesome to be able to setup an LVM+software RAID setup in the default debian installer. :) |
| 13:32.09 | jojo | tiny, I don't think you can actually bind-mount an FS read-only. It doesn't work here on my test-system at least (2.6.14.2) |
| 13:32.50 | Jake | i think my system may not like grub!!! :( |
| 13:32.52 | POVaddct | bibe: orinoco based cards can only bought second hand i guess. unlike ipw2x00, firmware isn't downloaded each time the driver is loaded. |
| 13:32.53 | TBBle | nostradam: I can't imagine. Why run two DHCP servers? |
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| 13:33.20 | inetd | orchid: i cant seem to get the shading to work... |
| 13:33.28 | nostradam | Well I would like to separate my wireless clients from my wired clients |
| 13:33.31 | inetd | orchid: urxvt -tr -sh 20 -tint black |
| 13:33.41 | fatal_ | bibe: orinoco is completely opensource and doesn't need any firmware or anything AFAIK... although it's an ancient card and you won't get any cool new features with it... intel IPW2200 is probably a better choice.... opensource drivers and a firmware.... I've read about some annoyances about the firmware but it still seems to be the best choice as I see it. |
| 13:33.43 | inetd | orchid: thats what i tried...but no tinting or shading |
| 13:33.50 | POVaddct | bibe: how about ralink based cards? i don't know if they are available as pcmcia, but as usb |
| 13:34.04 | nostradam | TBBle: is there another way I can do this..? |
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| 13:34.13 | TBBle | nostradam: Can you tell the linksys AP to DHCP-relay to the Sarge box? I think you're better off putting the DHCP servers on one box and using the grouping support to partition who gets what. |
| 13:34.19 | TBBle | Never tried it myself though. |
| 13:34.26 | britt | is there anyway debian can do my homework for me? |
| 13:34.27 | takatumi | bibe: atheros based ones work fine with madwifi |
| 13:35.11 | nostradam | TBBle...I checked...not to much you can configure on the linksys... |
| 13:35.24 | nostradam | only a gateway address. |
| 13:35.39 | bibe | POVaddct , fatal_ , takatumi : thanks |
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| 13:36.06 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: look into /proc/acpi |
| 13:36.10 | britt | heh, actually I would like to know how developed RAID is in linux. are there any natively supported cards? |
| 13:36.13 | POVaddct | takatumi: atheros cards are very good, but madwifi is not completely open source |
| 13:36.17 | bibe | fatal_ : ipw2200 needs a proprietary firmware and monitor mode isn't reliable |
| 13:36.19 | TBBle | ralink cards come in PCI, PCMCIA, Cardbus _and_ miniPCI. ^_^ |
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| 13:36.23 | nostradam | I think I read somewhere that it is possible to use an option ipforwarding=off switch in your dhcp options |
| 13:36.26 | POVaddct | takatumi: or is ath_hal open sourced now? |
| 13:36.32 | orchid | inetd: fading you mean? |
| 13:36.52 | matusz | about dpkg 2006 key advice: installing apt 0.6.43.1 does not clear gpg key warning, however installing the key fetched from subkeys.pgp.net works |
| 13:36.57 | orchid | inetd: fading when it loses focus? http://bzgirl.bakadigital.com/images/urxvtfade.png |
| 13:37.01 | tpr | so like..what is this udev that it requires kernel 2.6.12 or newer, cant apt-get remove gnome coz of it? |
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| 13:37.14 | nostradam | so that dhcp request don't get forwarded to another network if you have 2 nics like I have.. |
| 13:37.27 | britt | tpr: you should upgrade anyway. we're on 2.6.8.2 |
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| 13:38.09 | tpr | but im already on 2.6.8 |
| 13:38.49 | iturk | hi there my amsn is freezing during login i am using the last version 0.95 from the tarball and anyone was problems with this also in debian ?? |
| 13:38.55 | TBBle | nostradam: Oh, I see... Well, the point is that DHCP is IP-independant. You could set the 172 machine to not offer to devices with a certain MAC or part thereof, but in the general case either one can respond to a DHCP request on the ethernet. You could always VLAN... But your switch or AP'd need to support it. |
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| 13:39.52 | inetd | orchid: figured it out...what app do u use to set the background? |
| 13:40.19 | inetd | orchid: i used fbsetbg..and had problems getting tint to work...now im using esetroot and it works fine |
| 13:40.29 | inetd | orchid: btw..my wm is fluxbox |
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| 13:40.53 | orchid | inetd: mine isnt :) so I cant help you with that |
| 13:41.10 | orchid | inetd: I use xfce4 mostly |
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| 13:41.33 | inetd | orchid: what app do you use to set the bg? |
| 13:41.53 | orchid | it has a builtin bg dialog |
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| 13:42.40 | takatumi | POVaddct: not sure about ath_hal, but madiwifi is GPL'd afaik. |
| 13:42.46 | matusz | inetd: I use xsetbg |
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| 13:43.35 | inetd | matusz: do you use eterm with mutt? |
| 13:43.40 | TBBle | There's an open-source ath_hal in one of the BSD trees, I think. If you google for it,you'll find source and discussion of a legal threat from a while ago that I don't think ever eventuated. |
| 13:44.14 | matusz | inetd: no |
| 13:44.35 | nostradam | TBBle thanks for the help... |
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| 13:44.46 | nostradam | Aussies rule...! |
| 13:44.46 | TBBle | nostradam: No wuckers. ^_^ |
| 13:44.49 | POVaddct | takatumi: madwifi has a small portion of closed source in its tarball, it is a .o files which is linked into ath_hal.ko when compiling |
| 13:45.05 | Jake | ive just done a fresh install and rebooted - grub doesnt appear ... i get a black screen |
| 13:45.19 | Jake | does anyone have any suggestions - i am googling already |
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| 13:45.53 | inetd | anyone use mutt+eterm? |
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| 13:46.21 | asuffield | nostradam: the basic problem is with your physical layout |
| 13:46.40 | nostradam | asuffield.please explain... |
| 13:46.44 | asuffield | nostradam: it's not going to work when you've got both network cards connected to the same switch like that |
| 13:47.04 | asuffield | nostradam: when a dhcp client looks for an address, it basically just broadcasts "help!" to the network |
| 13:47.14 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : thankx for the tip, im going to look now |
| 13:47.20 | asuffield | nostradam: so that message goes to both network cards. the dhcp server has got no way to know where it came from or what to do with it |
| 13:47.29 | gentgeen__ | I keep getting "W: GPG error: http://mirrors.kernel.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified" with apt and aptitude, it says to run apt* update to correct it but that does not work.... |
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| 13:47.58 | nostradam | can't I restrict the dhcp broadcast to remain within the 192 side |
| 13:48.02 | nostradam | ? |
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| 13:48.22 | oz__ | ' within the 192 side'? |
| 13:48.28 | asuffield | nostradam: what 192 side? the dhcp client doesn't have an address yet. you know only two things about it: the mac address of the client, and the network card it came in on |
| 13:48.28 | Mounteen | kellemes napot mindenkeinek |
| 13:48.33 | ootput | as opposed to 255. ? |
| 13:48.57 | asuffield | nostradam: so unless you assign everything a static address based on the mac address, the only way to identify it is by the physical card the request came from |
| 13:49.05 | nostradam | the AP is on the 192 side so I was hoping that might help.. |
| 13:49.19 | asuffield | nostradam: it doesn't. the AP is not a router, it's a bridge |
| 13:50.11 | asuffield | so it just throws the dhcp broadcast onto the network on the other side |
| 13:50.20 | asuffield | there's no record of it having anything to do with the AP |
| 13:50.31 | nostradam | right...I see now.. |
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| 13:50.38 | nostradam | thanks for the insight... |
| 13:50.44 | asuffield | the 192.* address on the AP is just for configuring it really, nothing else |
| 13:51.04 | takatumi | POVaddct: reading about it now, cheers. |
| 13:51.46 | asuffield | (if the AP was a router instead, then dhcp wouldn't cross it at all - you have to have one dhcp server on every network segment, or set up relays) |
| 13:51.46 | nostradam | Thanks asuffield |
| 13:51.55 | pjv | hi i just installed mrtg with apt-get i need to know where are the Path for Configuration Files and Path for MRTG Scripts. How do i find out where apt-get has installed them? |
| 13:52.14 | SlayerXP | pjv: dpkg -L <packagename> |
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| 13:52.52 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : I have no experience with the PROC, can i there specify that the CPU fan would continuously runs like Knoppix 3.9 ? |
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| 13:53.04 | nostradam | Many thanks asuffield... |
| 13:53.04 | corp | hello |
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| 13:53.22 | corp | i accidentally filled up my root partition, and it's being reported as a read-only fs now |
| 13:53.26 | corp | i need to delete a file |
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| 13:53.31 | corp | what can i do? |
| 13:54.02 | bibe | corp : try 'mount -o remount,rw /' |
| 13:54.18 | knt | is there any tutorial/documentation that shows how to manage both testing and unstable packages in the same system? (i want to install an unstable package to a testing system) |
| 13:54.20 | corp | write protected... |
| 13:54.23 | corp | this is a VPS |
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| 13:54.44 | bibe | knt : google for apt-pinning |
| 13:54.53 | streuner | knt: or /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 13:55.13 | bibe | !pinning |
| 13:55.13 | dpkg | well, apt-pinning is read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
| 13:55.18 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: on my system it's the file calles /proc/acpi/ibm/fan. try cat /proc/acpi/something-like-fan |
| 13:55.20 | dvm1981 | in /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/C106 there are a line cooling mode: passive Can i set there another value so that the cooling will continously runs ? |
| 13:55.23 | pjv | SlayerXP: i don't have dpkg, I'm using suse, damn i would of thought that dpkg would come with apt :( |
| 13:55.43 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: echo "active" > /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/C106 |
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| 13:55.57 | knt | bibe: streuner: thanks so much. |
| 13:55.58 | asuffield | corp: then it's time to call your sysadmin, something on the outside needs kicking |
| 13:56.07 | corp | yeah. sucks |
| 13:56.08 | Shadowcat | pjv: why are you asking for help in here if you are using suse? |
| 13:56.12 | corp | maybe xen does this |
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| 13:56.20 | Shadowcat | pjv: you're using apt-rpm, which isn't supported here |
| 13:56.25 | beardy | pjv: #suse |
| 13:56.29 | asuffield | corp: it's not impossible. no way to know without knowing how the outside stuff is set up |
| 13:56.42 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : To replace 'passive' with 'active' ? |
| 13:56.49 | Jake | hi ho, hi ho ... off to lilo i go |
| 13:57.02 | pjv | alright ease up guys, i just thought apt=debian my bad :) |
| 13:57.25 | Shadowcat | !beat pjv |
| 13:57.47 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : I think but not sure... |
| 13:57.51 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: yes. |
| 13:58.10 | dvm1981 | pumkin0 : thx |
| 13:58.12 | dvm1981 | ;-) |
| 13:58.38 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: There is no garantie. It may work, it may also reboot the laptop hard. Most of the time nothing happens. |
| 13:58.40 | SlayerXP | pjv: apt-get is a wrapper arounf dpkg |
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| 14:00.45 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : thankx for the additional information, i note now the things here, in case off. Thx for the support :-) |
| 14:00.56 | pjv | SlayerXP: it's kool dude this suse thing sux anyway, i lack in sooo many apps, I'm going back to my bsd. thanks for the help anyway :) laters |
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| 14:01.40 | SlayerXP | he's using suse, prefers bsd, yet comes to #debian to ask questions |
| 14:01.44 | SlayerXP | ooooooh-kay. |
| 14:02.01 | Shadowcat | says the guy with XP in his nick |
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| 14:02.51 | Shadowcat | !spelling |
| 14:02.51 | dpkg | [spelling] best dealt with in a qualitative sense. "It's a poor mind that can only think of one way to spell a word.", or what Ambrose Bierce said anyway |
| 14:02.58 | beardy | hah |
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| 14:04.42 | pumpkin0 | Is it possible to use a device (/dev/ttyUSB0) over Ethernet ? |
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| 14:06.33 | sep | pumpkin0, man nc |
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| 14:07.24 | Jazon | hello |
| 14:07.38 | Shadowcat | !hello |
| 14:07.39 | dpkg | Hi, shadowcat! |
| 14:07.42 | Shadowcat | hmm... |
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| 14:07.55 | Jazon | i messed up my cups server, and can't reconfigure it... this is what i get from cupsconfig: Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsdcupsd: Child exited on signal 15! |
| 14:08.08 | asuffield | pumpkin0: there's nbd, but not really, no |
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| 14:08.13 | Shadowcat | Jazon: did you read the man page? |
| 14:08.20 | Shadowcat | or the documentation before messing with it? |
| 14:08.44 | pumpkin0 | sep: that just gives me a stream, but no other ops. |
| 14:08.48 | Jazon | i changed the listen from *:631 to a more specific range, and now i can't get back in to change it back :( |
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| 14:09.07 | Jazon | man cupsconfig |
| 14:09.07 | Jazon | No manual entry for cupsconfig |
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| 14:09.34 | Shadowcat | !google cups printing system |
| 14:09.36 | beardy | !docs |
| 14:09.36 | dpkg | hmm... docs is before asking in here, *please* read the available documentation in /usr/share/doc/packagename, man packagename, and http://linuxdoc.org/, or some packages have separat doc packages (e.g. bash-doc), or try the 'info' system |
| 14:09.40 | robinro__ | Results for cups printing system on Google: |
| 14:09.41 | dpkg | Google says cups printing system is at http://www.cups.org/ or http://www.cups.org/documentation.php or http://www.cups.org/overview.html or http://linuxgazette.net/issue90/ward.html or http://www.linuxjournal.com/article/8618 |
| 14:09.41 | robinro__ | http://www.<b>cups</b>.org/ |
| 14:09.41 | robinro__ | http://<span |
| 14:09.41 | robinro__ | -- |
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| 14:09.56 | Shadowcat | hmm.... didn't know we had two google bots in here |
| 14:09.59 | beardy | wtf was that? |
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| 14:10.30 | oz__ | google bots? |
| 14:10.39 | Shadowcat | you don't know what a google bot is? |
| 14:10.44 | Shadowcat | what rock have you been living under? |
| 14:10.48 | caphuso | a bot. that googles |
| 14:10.52 | beardy | Shadowcat: Just tell him to search the web for himself. |
| 14:11.10 | pumpkin0 | asuffield: nbd looks cool, i will have to test it. THX |
| 14:11.23 | asuffield | pumpkin0: it's really for disks, kinda limited otherwise |
| 14:11.25 | sep | pumpkin0, well you arent exactly giving us much detail tho. you can netcat your tty across the network to a tcpip host and netcat it back into god knows what you intend to do with it there. |
| 14:11.28 | beardy | (aalthough, good that you weeded that other one out) |
| 14:11.29 | oz__ | yes, I know |
| 14:11.35 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 14:11.40 | Shadowcat | !snowball beardy |
| 14:11.42 | oz__ | but I did not know that google is interested in irc |
| 14:11.42 | Shadowcat | ack |
| 14:11.55 | jm_ | pumpkin0: I use ser2net for that |
| 14:12.01 | asuffield | sep: that barely works at all. ttys are more than just character streams |
| 14:12.23 | ivanneto | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:12.44 | Shadowcat | why are you exporting /tmp? |
| 14:12.52 | row | Is there any plan to allow php4 and php5 packages co-exists on debian? |
| 14:12.57 | pumpkin0 | jm_ ser2net is the answer. THX a lot. |
| 14:13.05 | row | or have they already done that? |
| 14:13.15 | Shadowcat | no clue |
| 14:13.16 | ivanneto | Shad0wcat: I want that windows users become able to upload files to my linux box. |
| 14:13.27 | Shadowcat | ivanneto: do you even know what /tmp is used for? |
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| 14:14.04 | ivanneto | Shadowcat: Yes, I know! /tmp is just an example, the directory exported doesn't matter much. |
| 14:14.22 | Shadowcat | umm it does |
| 14:14.39 | Jazon | oh - i might know what i did.... i think i told it that user was the owner, and now it assumes it should be root.... hmmm... what file to change permissions on? |
| 14:14.44 | row | ivanneto: I had the same issue a while back, if I remeber rightly my bro went back home so I gave up :( |
| 14:15.11 | Shadowcat | that said |
| 14:15.19 | Shadowcat | I'm not sure if you can enable "Guest" access in samba |
| 14:15.32 | nayyares | is there any MS-PowerPoint replacement, that is as light as abiword? |
| 14:15.42 | row | Shad0wcat: you can, I know people that have done it. |
| 14:15.43 | Shadowcat | OpenOffice Impress |
| 14:15.51 | ivanneto | row: thanks anyway. |
| 14:15.54 | Shadowcat | row: yet you gave up :P |
| 14:15.56 | row | Shad0wcat: they just don't know how. |
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| 14:16.01 | row | very old configs |
| 14:16.02 | row | :) |
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| 14:16.15 | nayyares | Shadowcat, openoffice is not light :( |
| 14:16.16 | row | I could not be arsed as it was only for my bro |
| 14:16.26 | Shadowcat | nayyares: would you rather use Ms Ofifce? |
| 14:16.56 | Shadowcat | and a 200mb source tarball for OpenOffice is light compared to the DVD required for Office 2003 |
| 14:17.05 | Shadowcat | and that's the compiled version |
| 14:17.16 | Shadowcat | I'd hate to see what the Office 2003 source tarball looks like |
| 14:17.26 | Kluster_v2 | it's on a Cray |
| 14:17.29 | badblody | OT: anyone know how to create a image from exactly as another except that in the destination there are only the part of one colour from the original? |
| 14:17.30 | randomity | Shadowcat, so how come ms office still starts faster? |
| 14:17.30 | Coweater | nayyares: kpresenter maybe |
| 14:17.33 | SlayerXP | Shad0wcat: the complete installer for offie 2003 fits on a single cd |
| 14:17.34 | dvm1981 | My laptop have not sound. I must be load a module i have do it a while ago, but i can't remember wish module i must be load. I dont know wish sound card there are here in. So how to begin ? |
| 14:17.37 | asuffield | nayyares: I think these two requirements are fundamentally incompatible |
| 14:17.51 | asuffield | nayyares: if you take all the bloat and fluff out of powerpoint, you don't have anything *left* - it doesn't *do* anything else |
| 14:17.56 | Shadowcat | SlayerXP: no it doesn't |
| 14:18.03 | Shadowcat | all of Office 2003 is around six cds |
| 14:18.07 | SlayerXP | Shadowcat: yes, it does. |
| 14:18.09 | Shadowcat | 1.9gb in all |
| 14:18.14 | SlayerXP | Shad0wcat: I know, I have it right here, now. |
| 14:18.15 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: lspci -v -v | less |
| 14:18.25 | Shadowcat | SlayerXP: no, you have CD1 |
| 14:18.37 | Shadowcat | all of Office 2003 is around 1.9gb |
| 14:18.38 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: => search for anything looking like sound |
| 14:18.44 | nayyares | asuffield, in fact my pc RAM is not much and when i use Openoffice it sucks all of that :( |
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| 14:19.12 | Shadowcat | Office 2003 Retail is CD1 only, aka Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook |
| 14:19.13 | nayyares | asuffield, that is the reason i have replaced Open-write with abiword and now searching impress replacement :) |
| 14:19.24 | asuffield | think about it - if you don't have animations and bells and whistles and stupid looking artwork, what exactly is the difference between powerpoint and word? |
| 14:19.43 | pumpkin0 | asuffield: 10 bucks ? |
| 14:19.44 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : i look now |
| 14:19.53 | randomity | nayyares, there's a Gnome presentation thingy being developed, but its a bit bare at the moment |
| 14:20.01 | caphuso | asuffield: powerpoint doesn't mangle your whole layout by simply adding a line? |
| 14:20.07 | Shadowcat | full office is Word, Excel, PowerPoint, Outlook, Access, Publisher, Project, OneNote, Infopath, Proofing Tools, Front Page, Clipart |
| 14:20.09 | asuffield | caphuso: you haven't used powerpoing, I see |
| 14:20.12 | asuffield | s/oing/oint/ |
| 14:20.12 | Shadowcat | which is HUGE |
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| 14:21.13 | caphuso | asuffield: twice or thrice |
| 14:21.37 | asuffield | caphuso: the only notable advantage powerpoint has here is that it doesn't use real paper sizes, and therefore doesn't resize your document every time you move to a box with a slightly different printer driver (thereby completely fucking your layout) |
| 14:21.43 | asuffield | aside from that it fucks your layout just as easily |
| 14:21.57 | caphuso | asuffield: yeah, i've noticed that |
| 14:22.10 | jm_ | hehe |
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| 14:22.36 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : I found not my sound card with lspci :-( or looking bad |
| 14:22.48 | caphuso | well, i've never put more than 5 words on a single sheet. that might explain the non-mangling of my presentations |
| 14:22.57 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: can you post the lspci-output via paster ? |
| 14:22.58 | asuffield | when you really get down to it, word and powerpoint are just two different interface arrangements of the same damn application |
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| 14:23.29 | Whitman | Shad0wcat, there is a 1 cd version of office 2003. It's heavily compressed and not entirely (read: not at all) legal but there is one "out there". |
| 14:23.29 | Shadowcat | no kidding :P |
| 14:23.33 | dvm1981 | How to paster ? What is it, must i use #flood ? |
| 14:23.48 | pumpkin0 | OK, use #flood |
| 14:23.50 | jm_ | dvm1981: /msg dpkg paste |
| 14:23.53 | Shadowcat | Whitman: I doubt it includes all the crap I just described |
| 14:24.00 | Shadowcat | Proofing alone is 1 cd |
| 14:24.08 | Shadowcat | and proofing tools is compressed to hell as it is |
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| 14:24.10 | dvm1981 | david@laptop:/proc/acpi$ lspci |
| 14:24.10 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) |
| 14:24.10 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) |
| 14:24.10 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) |
| 14:24.10 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) |
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| 14:24.30 | pumpkin0 | ... told him ... |
| 14:24.42 | Shadowcat | n00bs |
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| 14:26.31 | dvm1981 | im back there, |
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| 14:26.38 | beardy | Just by calling someone that you qualify as one yourself. |
| 14:26.51 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: never, ever paste into this channel. use #flood |
| 14:26.51 | beardy | dvm1981: Why didn't you listen and do as they told you? |
| 14:27.11 | beardy | dvm1981: /msg dpkg paste |
| 14:27.18 | dvm1981 | Sorry, |
| 14:27.50 | dvm1981 | Yes, i reading now on the channel website how to paste ... here |
| 14:27.54 | dvm1981 | Sorry |
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| 14:28.47 | beardy | dvm1981: /msg dpkg something means, type "/msg dpkg something" (without the quotes) in your irc client, in case you don't know. |
| 14:29.28 | dvm1981 | beardy : thx yes, i don't know ;-) |
| 14:30.11 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX Host bridge (rev 03) |
| 14:30.11 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 440BX/ZX/DX - 82443BX/ZX/DX AGP bridge (rev 03) |
| 14:30.11 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:07.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 ISA (rev 02) |
| 14:30.11 | dvm1981 | 0000:00:07.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82371AB/EB/MB PIIX4 IDE (rev 01) |
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| 14:30.20 | pumpkin0 | ... |
| 14:30.21 | POVaddct | argh |
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| 14:30.46 | beardy | !tell dvm1981 -about flood |
| 14:30.49 | beardy | !tell dvm1981 -about paste |
| 14:31.04 | asuffield | some people are not very quick on the uptake |
| 14:31.11 | dvm1981 | Sorry i must be read the how to, it will not luck to paste correctly, And website with info ? |
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| 14:31.48 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
| 14:31.49 | beardy | dvm1981: If you can't figure out how to paste correctly, there is no excuse for pasting twice in the channel. |
| 14:31.52 | dvm1981 | beardy : thx i m deseperate about the flood and paste command, it will not work or surrely i do the bad thing |
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| 14:32.31 | dvm1981 | no i have use the /msg dpkg and he paste .... |
| 14:32.54 | beardy | dvm1981: Join #flood and paste in there. |
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| 14:33.03 | dvm1981 | or i not good understand, sorry, i must be look to correct paste, i have paste without paste, and ........ |
| 14:33.08 | POVaddct | dvm1981: #flood is not a command. it is another channel. |
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| 14:33.31 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: use the website: http://channels.debian.net/paste/ |
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| 14:35.17 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : I have paste the output in the webform. I not good understand and i seems that i not been good use the flood things... |
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| 14:36.17 | Jazon | solved my cups problem - just uninstalled cup-sys and reinsstalled.... |
| 14:36.30 | dvm1981 | beardy : I have do '/join #flood' and paste the things there, come these here ? |
| 14:36.31 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: So it's under: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1520. now do the same thing, but with "lspci -v" |
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| 14:37.18 | Gyran | When i start my debian installation it says that my X is not correct configured. How do i configure X? |
| 14:37.28 | abrotman | !drxx Gyran |
| 14:37.29 | dpkg | Gyran: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 14:37.48 | abrotman | what are you guys trying to help dvm1981 with? |
| 14:37.51 | Jazon | why is it that some linux groups act so 'elitist' ? the attitude seems to be sometimes 'I had to learn it on my own - so you should have to as well...' IMHO this is one major thing holding linux back from much more widespread use... |
| 14:38.01 | beardy | abrotman: Pasting for starters.. :) |
| 14:38.01 | Gyran | dpkg.. Will try that. Thx. |
| 14:38.02 | pumpkin0 | abrotman: find his sound-card. |
| 14:38.22 | abrotman | it's an ISA sound card ... eww .. and on a laptop |
| 14:38.28 | POVaddct | pumpkin0: i'm afraid the sound card won't appear in lspci output |
| 14:38.37 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : i do it now, hhhhmmmmm, i understand i little bit more, it's come ... |
| 14:38.39 | abrotman | unless that was someone else's lspci |
| 14:38.44 | beardy | Jazon: So help and be nice. |
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| 14:39.07 | tiny | Can partition be enlarged withouth data loss? |
| 14:39.09 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 14:39.09 | dpkg | i guess isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump, or http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ |
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| 14:39.18 | abrotman | tiny: depends on the FS .. and LVM helps too |
| 14:39.26 | cyzie | anybody has a good and simple link on how to format a windows partition (NTFS) to debian filesystem and then it will automount when the pc boot up? thanks |
| 14:39.26 | tiny | FS is ext2 |
| 14:39.34 | POVaddct | pumpkin0: intel 440bx sounds like a rather old laptop. surely no pci sound card. |
| 14:39.38 | tiny | abauer: FS is ext2 |
| 14:39.44 | abrotman | poor abauer |
| 14:39.48 | tiny | abrotman: : FS is ext2 |
| 14:39.49 | tiny | lol |
| 14:40.09 | tiny | abauer: sorry |
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| 14:40.13 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0 : it's done t's http://channels.debian.net/paste/1522. |
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| 14:40.28 | tiny | abrotman: so ... is ext2 expandable? |
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| 14:40.39 | abrotman | tiny: with parted .. yes .. without dataloss .. i don't think so |
| 14:40.44 | Jazon | beardy: I do whenever I know... but I am still quite new to linux... this is a frustrating experience, even for someone who has 20+ yrs exp with computers |
| 14:40.59 | abrotman | dvm1981: your soundcard is ISA .. you need ISAPnP to get it to work |
| 14:41.42 | abrotman | tiny: you'd always want to backup your data before a resize anyways |
| 14:41.46 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Can you give me a little bit more info please. Thx for help and sorry for bady pasting |
| 14:41.50 | SeicherlBoB | cyzie: you want to format that partition? you'll loose all your data. Or do you just want to mount it so you can access? |
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| 14:42.12 | cyzie | SeicherlBoB, i already backup my data. i wanna format it. no more windows partition. |
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| 14:42.42 | SeicherlBoB | so you want to erase the partition and data and format it as ... ext2 or whatever |
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| 14:43.05 | cyzie | SeicherlBoB, yes. can u tell me step by step please? |
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| 14:43.37 | dvm1981 | abrotman : It's for my laptop. |
| 14:43.38 | SeicherlBoB | cyzie: actually i'm sorry, cause i always did so at the install. i never formated a disc on a running system. |
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| 14:43.48 | abrotman | dvm1981: i'm aware of that .. it's still an ISA sound card |
| 14:43.51 | abrotman | !isapnp |
| 14:43.51 | dpkg | from memory, isapnp is a nifty utility that lets you configure your ISA PnP cards (which themselves are evil) in linux, or apt-get install isapnptools then pnpdump, or http://www.roestock.demon.co.uk/isapnptools/ |
| 14:43.57 | jm_ | cyzie: man mkfs |
| 14:44.06 | abrotman | !tell dvm1981 about isapnp |
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| 14:44.25 | dvm1981 | looking for isapnp in synaptic |
| 14:44.28 | SeicherlBoB | cyzie: just wanted you to get a bit more precise, so anyone else can help ;) |
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| 14:45.03 | abrotman | you use fdisk .. then mkfs .. the man mount;man fstab |
| 14:45.11 | cyzie | SeicherlBoB, sure. what else do u need from me? i said i do not want widnows anymore. i just want linux partition/filesystem. |
| 14:45.17 | abrotman | !u |
| 14:45.17 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 14:45.19 | beardy | Jazon: That's good. Well, try not to get frustrated, take one thing at a time. |
| 14:45.23 | cyzie | LoL |
| 14:45.25 | cyzie | sorry |
| 14:45.35 | klando | hello, just I was so surprised to see www.debian.org/ search package down ! know the problem ? |
| 14:45.54 | abrotman | !tell klando about search |
| 14:45.56 | dvm1981 | it's some time the search are down |
| 14:45.58 | SeicherlBoB | cyzie: i think you got the answer ;) |
| 14:46.27 | dvm1981 | Can anybody help me with isapnp |
| 14:46.38 | klando | I know how to find etc .... thank you abrotman |
| 14:47.01 | dvm1981 | OK i, not good today sorry guys, thankx for the help abrotmqn |
| 14:47.04 | abrotman | klando: you just want to know why that packages.debian.org is down ? |
| 14:47.09 | klando | yes |
| 14:47.12 | dvm1981 | dpkg is telling me |
| 14:47.23 | klando | ok |
| 14:47.36 | dvm1981 | abrotman : dpkg has tell me, thx ;-) |
| 14:47.39 | abrotman | klando: it's broken :) .. i believe it was having load issues .. not sure though |
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| 14:47.54 | cyzie | thanks SeicherlBoB abrotman jm_ |
| 14:48.12 | SeicherlBoB | cyzie: np ;) |
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| 14:50.03 | merak | I do apt-get intall k3b but it doesn't work...says no package name...what is the package name? |
| 14:50.13 | abrotman | merak: that is the package .. are you using testing ? |
| 14:50.26 | on1009 | hi all, while setting up my dialin-server i have a fundamental question: can a cellphone make dataconnections to isdncard? |
| 14:50.28 | klando | aptitude search k3b |
| 14:50.30 | merak | abrotman: yes |
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| 14:50.55 | abrotman | merak: it's currently unavailable due to C++ ABI transition .. try arson, gnomebaker, graveman, xcdroast, eroaster |
| 14:51.14 | dvm1981 | I need the 'isapnptools' but i can't find it, need i add a reposite ? |
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| 14:51.22 | abrotman | merak: arson is another Qt/KDE burning app |
| 14:51.26 | abrotman | dvm1981: you have to install it |
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| 14:51.35 | dvm1981 | Take a cup of coffe, i really need it today... |
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| 14:52.15 | merak | abrotman: Which one of those supports multisession burning? |
| 14:52.22 | merak | abrotman: gnomebaker doesn't..I tried that. |
| 14:52.28 | abrotman | merak: i only use gnomebaker .. not sure if it does ... |
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| 14:52.41 | abrotman | merak: i'm sure gnomebaker supports it .. but i don't do multisession discs |
| 14:52.42 | beardy | It doesn't? |
| 14:52.57 | SeicherlBoB | i get millions of lcp-error messages in my syslog. I know where, but not how to config the lcp-settings for pppd to make this stop! |
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| 14:53.08 | dvm1981 | abrotman : yes i would like to install it. But when i do 'apt-get install isapnptools' he not find the package. |
| 14:53.15 | SeicherlBoB | can anybody help me in setting up the lcp? |
| 14:53.21 | abrotman | gotta be there somewhere. . moment |
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| 14:53.43 | dvm1981 | Is 'isapnptools' packaged for Debian ? |
| 14:53.52 | abrotman | it should be |
| 14:54.12 | abrotman | !info isapnptools sarge |
| 14:54.26 | abrotman | dpkg: wake up |
| 14:54.26 | dpkg | abrotman: I'm already awake! :) |
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| 14:57.11 | dvm1981 | Where to find the 'isapnptools' ? I not it with apt-get install |
| 14:57.17 | abrotman | it is there .. i swear it |
| 14:57.44 | abrotman | and it's in main |
| 14:57.45 | dvm1981 | when i do 'apt-get install isapnptools' he not find the package ... |
| 14:57.54 | abrotman | dvm1981: paste your sources somewhere |
| 14:58.20 | dvm1981 | abrotman the souce of '/etc/apt/source.list' ? |
| 14:58.24 | abrotman | yes |
| 14:58.44 | abrotman | !es |
| 14:58.44 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 14:58.50 | dvm1981 | abrotman : I do it now in the webform. |
| 14:58.55 | abrotman | ok |
| 14:59.46 | EleckttrusS | i have webcam, i need see my cam in web outsite of my network |
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| 15:00.17 | dvm1981 | abrotman : I have send it. http://channels.debian.net/paste/1523 |
| 15:00.29 | SeicherlBoB | EleckttursS: you need a streaming-server for that webcam and then pass it through your firewall. |
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| 15:00.37 | abrotman | dvm1981: i didn't know you were using testing |
| 15:00.39 | sep | EleckttrusS, most network cam have tools to autoupload to a site. or you can alternativly portforward in your roouter a port towards your webcam webtool |
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| 15:01.13 | EleckttrusS | sep, Thacks! |
| 15:01.19 | SeicherlBoB | i get millions of lcp-error messages in my syslog. I know where, but not how to config the lcp-settings for pppd to make this stop! |
| 15:01.21 | SeicherlBoB | can anybody help me in setting up the lcp? |
| 15:01.23 | abrotman | dvm1981: x86 laptop ? |
| 15:01.39 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Sorry i forget it, it's my second day here in testing ;-) on my laptop :-) it's verry nice. thx to all people that have work an this great project ;-) |
| 15:01.45 | abrotman | dvm1981: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/i/isapnptools/isapnptools_1.26-5_i386.deb |
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| 15:02.10 | dvm1981 | abrotman : yes i think, how to verify ? |
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| 15:02.23 | dvm1981 | abrotman : i go to download it :-) |
| 15:02.24 | abrotman | dvm1981: download that .. use dpkg -i <filename> |
| 15:02.40 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Really thankx ;-) |
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| 15:02.59 | abrotman | dvm1981: that is the sarge version of isapnptools .. it may or may not work |
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| 15:03.29 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Ok i test i now and let you know ;-) |
| 15:03.46 | abrotman | dvm1981: you will have to read how to use isapnp .. i haven't done it .. in like .. 5 years |
| 15:03.48 | EleckttrusS | sep, that it programs via allows me to show my webcam Web * |
| 15:04.34 | mutilator | hey the debian install doesn't include authvchkpw, is there any way to get it to work without recompiling from source? |
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| 15:04.55 | abrotman | wtf is authvchkpw ? |
| 15:05.01 | SeicherlBoB | mutilator: tried apt-get ? |
| 15:06.12 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Some times ago i have been accomplisc to get working my sound card by loading some modules. But i forget wish modules it was, And like i dont wish at that time how to auto load modules... |
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| 15:08.28 | dvm1981 | abrotman : So now the result is that i cant remember wish modules to load to get working my sound card. |
| 15:08.41 | stew | mutilator: you have to recompile from source, but its easy, /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 15:09.03 | dvm1981 | abrotman : I think that the info on that time that i have read was not on the website of 'linux on laptop'. |
| 15:09.15 | stew | abrotman: authvchkpw is a way to get courier to auth against your qmail virtual userdb |
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| 15:11.20 | michael__ | playing ultima online with linux possible? is there a linux client or should I wine the win32 version? |
| 15:11.21 | sifi-x | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/etch_di_beta1/ for Etch, right? |
| 15:11.27 | hueh | mutilator: we used checkinstall as well so it behaved like a .deb |
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| 15:11.49 | SeicherlBoB | is there nobody in here that knows about lcp for pppd??? |
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| 15:11.58 | Blues-Man | hi all |
| 15:12.19 | TodoDoc | Kannst du mir sagen wieso der raus wurf nun wieder war ? |
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| 15:12.24 | TodoDoc | hab doch garnichts gesagt |
| 15:12.27 | dvm1981 | Blues-Man : Hi |
| 15:12.53 | Blues-Man | I have debian etch and I can't find kdevelop, I apt-cache searched it and installed kdesdk-* but there is not any kdevelop installed, why? |
| 15:12.53 | _keroppi_ | What's an easy way to find out what packages x-window-system installs? |
| 15:12.53 | SeicherlBoB | TodoDoc: deutscher Support ist unter #debian-de |
| 15:12.53 | Blues-Man | hi dvm1981 |
| 15:12.53 | TodoDoc | fc |
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| 15:13.27 | stew | _keroppi_: apt-cache depends x-window-system |
| 15:13.37 | dvm1981 | Blues-Man : New on Linux ? |
| 15:13.44 | Blues-Man | no |
| 15:13.47 | stew | SeicherlBoB: #debian-de or #debian.de? |
| 15:14.09 | abrotman | dvm1981: you have to get the card setup first |
| 15:14.14 | Blues-Man | there is not kdevelop or kdevelop3 |
| 15:14.14 | abrotman | stew: eww .. qmail |
| 15:14.16 | SeicherlBoB | stew: #debian-de as far as i know |
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| 15:14.22 | stew | !de |
| 15:14.22 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 15:14.29 | stew | SeicherlBoB: should that be changed then? |
| 15:14.30 | dvm1981 | abrotman : How to ? |
| 15:14.33 | abrotman | Blues-Man: C++ ABI transition has struck again! |
| 15:14.35 | SeicherlBoB | stew: oh |
| 15:14.40 | SeicherlBoB | stew: my mistake |
| 15:14.46 | Blues-Man | abrotman: like for k3b? |
| 15:14.53 | abrotman | dvm1981: did you read the isapnptools documentation? |
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| 15:14.58 | abrotman | Blues-Man: yep .. afaik .. same thing |
| 15:15.01 | stew | SeicherlBoB: .de == 150 people -de = 9 people |
| 15:15.03 | abrotman | !why is kdevelop3 not in testing |
| 15:15.03 | dpkg | kdevelop3 is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=kdevelop3 |
| 15:15.10 | bizkit | qmail is crap.. !start an mta war ;p |
| 15:15.10 | dvm1981 | abrotman : isapnptools has been installed, i look (or wait) now for futur instructions. |
| 15:15.12 | Blues-Man | abauer: how can I have it?only from unstable? |
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| 15:15.29 | dvm1981 | abrotman : I do it now, just begin with it. |
| 15:15.30 | abrotman | Blues-Man: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 15:15.35 | DeadS0ul | is anyone here using the unofficial version for kde 3.5? |
| 15:15.36 | SeicherlBoB | stew: i see cause now i'm at both of them |
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| 15:15.59 | _keroppi_ | stew: And x-windows-system is a dummy package that merely depends on others, not really installing anything itself? |
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| 15:16.12 | Blues-Man | damn , got it |
| 15:16.14 | Blues-Man | tnx bye |
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| 15:17.08 | stew | _keroppi_: yes, you can verify this with "apt-file list x-window-system" /msg dpkg apt-file |
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| 15:18.34 | DeadS0ul | is anyone using kde 3.5 on debian? |
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| 15:19.22 | sTone_heAd | what's kde |
| 15:19.44 | stew | !kde |
| 15:19.45 | dpkg | hmm... kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 15:19.58 | migiel | can anyone tell me where i can download libapache2-mod-auth-mysql.deb for amd64? (since apt-get doesnt work) |
| 15:20.04 | bibe | DeadS0ul : probably anyone using kde onto an up-to-date sid installation |
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| 15:20.07 | raf256 | migiel: doesnt work? |
| 15:20.08 | abrotman | migiel: ask #debian-amd64 |
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| 15:20.20 | abrotman | DeadS0ul: ask #debian-kde |
| 15:20.27 | DeadS0ul | k thanx =] |
| 15:20.34 | migiel | raf256: no, broken... i've reported it days ago.. but no replies yet |
| 15:20.52 | stew | migiel: why doesn't it work? |
| 15:21.02 | sTone_heAd | migiel, i have testing some unstable bits amd64 and it works fine |
| 15:21.03 | migiel | stew: unmet dependencies |
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| 15:21.07 | dvm1981 | How to define the speed of the CPU fan ? Or how to setup it so that the fan run on the max speed ? |
| 15:21.08 | stew | migiel: /msg dpkg bat |
| 15:21.40 | migiel | right, one moment |
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| 15:23.06 | migiel | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1524 |
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| 15:25.52 | SpComb | how can I answer the questions apt-get install asks again when I try and reinstall a package that failed to install? |
| 15:26.02 | SpComb | it jumps to the last question always, even if I remove it |
| 15:26.08 | abrotman | SpComb: dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 15:26.25 | vulture | SpComb: well you could purge it - but as abrotman said, the quicker way to get to the config is with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 15:26.29 | damazy | hi all, anybody know how to run ncurses based program in chroot/jail env |
| 15:27.04 | SpComb | /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: bacula-director-mysql is broken or not fully installed |
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| 15:27.46 | stew | migiel: what version of debian are you running, what is the output of apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-auth-mysql ? |
| 15:27.55 | stew | migiel: can we see your sources.list? |
| 15:28.19 | kneet | lvm2 - I'm upgrading a machine with two ide disks (hda, hdb). They have an lvm2 volume group spread on to phys vols. When I boot them with the new motherboard I get errors about not finding "Can't find device with a given UUID" - should a UUID change on a drive just because you move it to a new motherboard? They are on hda, hdb as before |
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| 15:28.31 | migiel | stew: release o=Debian,a=testing,l=Debian AMD64 archive,c=main |
| 15:28.35 | SpComb | purgeing works, thanks |
| 15:29.02 | stew | migiel: i'm interested in the Candidate: version from apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-auth-mysql |
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| 15:29.39 | smo_ | hi, i made a small script to load my usb soundcard ' s firmwares now i search a way to execute it automatically when i plugg my usb wire,is it possible |
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| 15:30.03 | migiel | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1526 |
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| 15:30.35 | stew | migiel: it looks like libmysqlclient12 was in face removed from testing |
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| 15:30.46 | stew | migiel: and i don't know that you can count on it coming back |
| 15:31.10 | migiel | stew: but it's still in unstable.. or? |
| 15:31.15 | bibe | stew : I still "see" it in testing |
| 15:31.17 | stew | migiel: since its being replaced by libmysqlclient15 |
| 15:31.38 | migiel | stew: shouldnt i be able to use mod-auth-mysql with libmysqlclient15 ? |
| 15:31.51 | sep | smo_, /msg dpkg hotplug |
| 15:31.54 | stew | migiel: it is currently in sid, you can cherry pick the sid version of libmysqlclient12 for now, or use the libapache2-mod-auth-mysql from sid |
| 15:32.10 | migiel | stew: ok, i'll do that thanks |
| 15:32.12 | smo_ | i ll try sep... |
| 15:32.39 | stew | migiel: i don't think libmysqlclient15 will work until libapache2-mod-auth-mysql is recompiled for it |
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| 15:33.04 | migiel | stew: yes i understand that |
| 15:33.10 | stew | bibe: not in amd64 however |
| 15:33.26 | brendan__ | does anyone know where i can get packages for kde 3.5 for debian sarge? |
| 15:33.36 | stew | brendan__: ask #debian-kde |
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| 15:36.08 | dvm1981 | Wish module i shoud to use to get my soundcard ESS1869 get workging? |
| 15:36.41 | abrotman | which |
| 15:36.52 | nvz | s/which/witch/ |
| 15:36.58 | nvz | see what I mean :P |
| 15:37.06 | abrotman | apt: can you stop doing that? |
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| 15:37.14 | nvz | someone needs to bitch at Tim |
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| 15:37.50 | abrotman | iirc .. there's an ess1869 module |
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| 15:38.14 | POVaddct | dvm1981: snd-es18xx (if you are using alsa) |
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| 15:39.04 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : I try it now |
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| 15:40.09 | abrotman | dvm1981: uname -a |
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| 15:40.42 | dvm1981 | abrotman : Linux laptop 2.6.8-2-386 #1 Thu May 19 17:40:50 JST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 15:41.13 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : I should give an error. |
| 15:41.29 | knt | how can i make bitstream vera fonts to appear in xlsfont output. |
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| 15:41.49 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : Im not sure that 'alsa' has been installed. |
| 15:42.26 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : Im not sure that 'alsa' has been installed. |
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| 15:43.05 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : Right, alsa are not installed. What is the other sound system ? I have forget the name. |
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| 15:43.17 | POVaddct | dvm1981: in 2.6.x, alsa modules are part of the kernel. don't know if the standard debian kernel has alsa modules, i always build my own kernels. |
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| 15:43.54 | POVaddct | dvm1981: the other (older) sound system is oss |
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| 15:44.32 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : Open Sound System ? |
| 15:44.42 | POVaddct | dvm1981: yes |
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| 15:44.47 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : Thx |
| 15:44.58 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : So i install alsa ? |
| 15:45.17 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : It must be, like the sound not bells... |
| 15:45.32 | POVaddct | dvm1981: install it |
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| 15:46.23 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : So little list to install > 'alsa-base, alsamixergui' ohter things to install ? |
| 15:46.45 | POVaddct | dvm1981: alsa-modules? |
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| 15:47.11 | POVaddct | dvm1981: sorry, i don't know about debian kernel packages, i always build my own kernel |
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| 15:47.49 | stew | dvm1981: /msg dpkg alsa one-liner |
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| 15:48.26 | dvm1981 | stew : thx |
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| 15:48.43 | a-atwood_ooo | what's the deal with untrusted packages and sid? I get back from Christmas break, and do and update, and like 2/3 the packages it wants to upgrade from mirrors.kernel.org are untrusted. |
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| 15:49.05 | dvm1981 | POVaddct : I suppose to select the same as my kernel, i must read some info provided by stew before |
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| 15:50.21 | caphuso | a-atwood: basically it means you're not qualified to use technical devices more complicated than butter knives because you can't even follow simple rules like reading the damn channel topic before asking a question |
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| 15:50.58 | petemc | *bam* |
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| 15:51.29 | joeyy | how do i install apache1.3 |
| 15:51.37 | mindlace | apt-get install apache |
| 15:51.42 | stew | dvm1981: if you are running a stock debian 2.6 kernel, you don't need to do anything with your kernel |
| 15:51.46 | joeyy | i dont want 2.x |
| 15:51.46 | mindlace | probably, sudo apt-get install apache |
| 15:52.00 | mindlace | apt-get install apache2 would get you 2x, i thought |
| 15:52.05 | stew | correct |
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| 15:52.14 | dvm1981 | stew : I not understand the word stock |
| 15:52.46 | a-atwood | caphuso: ah, will go sharpen my butter knives. |
| 15:52.47 | dvm1981 | Must by install the dictionnairie here, what is not done. Suggested dictionaries ? |
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| 15:53.37 | stew | dvm1981: if you are running a 2.6 kernel from a debian package, you don't need to do anything with your kernel |
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| 15:54.01 | Jacobo221 | hi. since the latest gnome upgrade on etch clikcing "Desktop -> Log Out -> *" Doesn't halt/reboot. it just seems to do nothing. is anyone lese experiencing this? |
| 15:54.03 | dvm1981 | stew : You're verry usefull ;-) |
| 15:54.19 | dvm1981 | So just install the alsa stuff |
| 15:54.23 | mo1991 | does anyone have backported wine .debs for the new version of wine - or something newer than .91 in SID? |
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| 15:54.49 | dvm1981 | stew : The day you are in Brussels, give a sign and we will drink one ;-) |
| 15:55.02 | mindlace | ok, i'll ask here too - Openldap (slapd) is effectively orphaned. The version of slapd in unstable is unusable on a 2.6+ linux kernel. I am recompiling for my own use; what should I do past that point? |
| 15:55.03 | tr1gg3r | dvm1981, the are wine debian repos |
| 15:55.04 | stew | mmmm trappist |
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| 15:55.15 | abrotman | Jacobo221: you must set SecureSystemMenu=false in your gdm.conf |
| 15:55.27 | joeyy | how do i secure apache |
| 15:55.36 | tr1gg3r | dvm1981, deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ sid/ |
| 15:55.58 | mindlace | it installs in a very secure way, joeyy |
| 15:55.58 | dvm1981 | trlgg3r : To do for ? |
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| 15:56.04 | Jacobo221 | abrotman: oh, thanks. i'll try that :) |
| 15:56.21 | mindlace | just don't turn on reverse proxying or configure access to sensitive parts of your machine |
| 15:56.33 | tr1gg3r | dvm1981, sry that was for mo1991 my mistake |
| 15:56.48 | dvm1981 | trlgg3r : No problem ;-) |
| 15:57.03 | tr1gg3r | mo1991, the are wine debian repos deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ sid/ |
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| 15:57.53 | robotsg | hey folks, settin up ndiswrap to bring up wlan0 on boot. I added ndiswrapper to /etc/modules and added iface wlan0 inet and 2 lines for essid/mode below in /etc/network/interfaces... anything else? |
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| 16:00.00 | mo1991 | trigg3r - I need one that I can install on sarge - do I need to backport the source from here? |
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| 16:02.43 | tr1gg3r | mo1991, sry idont know the answer to that but i would think so since its a sid repos |
| 16:03.17 | tpr | while trying to dpkg -i my kernel img i get an error: Failed to find suitable ramdisk generation tool for kernel version 2.6.1520060110 on running kernel 2.6.8-0510 in /usr/sbin/mkinitrd /usr/sbin/mkinitrd.yaird /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs :< |
| 16:03.19 | dvm1981 | Installing 'Alsa' he say that 'No supported Pnp or PCI card found Would you like to probe legacy ISA sound cards/chips' I must be select yes, to probe it think. |
| 16:03.35 | dvm1981 | it's on my laptop. |
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| 16:04.40 | dvm1981 | So i select Yes ? |
| 16:05.01 | stew | tpr: install initramfs-tools |
| 16:05.13 | dvm1981 | It's just to receive some addvies |
| 16:05.37 | tpr | stew: no affect |
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| 16:06.11 | tpr | stew: i think i have broken something ! :) |
| 16:06.12 | Vlat | dmmyq5: i hardly beleive that laptop could have soundcard on isa bus, some kind of AC97 rather |
| 16:06.23 | abrotman | Vlat: it's isa |
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| 16:06.40 | abrotman | Vlat: ask him for the lspci again if you don't believe! |
| 16:06.50 | kneet | 2.6.8 kernel (sarge) - 2Gb ram installed. BIOS sees 2G - but /proc/meminfo has a MemTotal of 1G - where should I be checking? |
| 16:07.09 | Vlat | abrotman: i don't follow the thread from it's beginning, just took a quick look at irc window :) |
| 16:07.21 | solarwinds | hi all, i used redhat linux and now I start to work on debian :-), however, I am looking for documentation and good web sites. |
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| 16:07.27 | Vlat | but isa card in laptop...quite strange imho |
| 16:07.35 | abrotman | Vlat: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1520 |
| 16:07.41 | abrotman | Vlat: it's an old laptop |
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| 16:09.42 | Vlat | abrotman: maybe hwinfo can help him |
| 16:09.52 | abrotman | ask him . not me |
| 16:10.12 | Vlat | dvm1981: try hwinfo, maybe it'll be useful for you |
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| 16:10.53 | joeyy | what do i chmod cgi-bin to |
| 16:10.54 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Thx for info and thinking on my ;-) |
| 16:10.58 | tr1gg3r | kneet, u would need highmem support im not sure if std debian kernel includes that |
| 16:11.07 | joeyy | 755 |
| 16:11.08 | joeyy | ? |
| 16:11.17 | stew | dvm1981: do you know what card you have? have you found it with isapnptools? |
| 16:11.34 | stew | tr1gg3r: the debian 2.6 kerenls include it except the |
| 16:11.35 | Vlat | dvm1981: any idea what's a card chipset can it be ? |
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| 16:11.50 | stew | tr1gg3r: ... -386 kernels, the other (686,k7,etc) do |
| 16:11.57 | dvm1981 | stew : ESS 18xx (69) |
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| 16:12.25 | stew | dvm1981: try modprobe snd-es18xx ; then run alsamixer |
| 16:12.26 | Vlat | dvm1981: modprobe snd-es18 |
| 16:12.27 | dvm1981 | i seems that it work, i looking to play some audio, what i not have here |
| 16:12.49 | dvm1981 | so looking for audio to play and to test te sound... |
| 16:12.56 | mindlace | I would like to see an updated version of openldap in debian ... I have compiled openldap 2.3.11 in a way that seems to follow the guidelines but I'm no debian maintainer. What is my concrete next step to getting a newer openldap into debian? |
| 16:13.01 | nuskool | are there any plans to incorperate mplayer into the etch package list? |
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| 16:13.07 | Vlat | dvm1981: cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 16:13.12 | Vlat | nice tune |
| 16:13.14 | stew | dvm1981: also modprobe snd-pcm-oss ; if that works add both snd-es18xx and snd-pcm-oss to /etc/modules |
| 16:13.16 | Vlat | called The Sounds of Kernel |
| 16:13.35 | dvm1981 | The icon on the right side (left the clock) have now an normal status (without the red x) |
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| 16:14.20 | dvm1981 | ok, looking for audio, i hope it work now but i have nothings to play, so looking for standart audio to play and test the audio |
| 16:14.32 | Vlat | dvm1981: cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 16:14.35 | cusco | hi! |
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| 16:14.44 | cusco | how do I set the fqdn on my system? |
| 16:14.50 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Yep, i do it now ;-) thx |
| 16:14.52 | cusco | apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.1.109 for ServerName |
| 16:14.55 | Vlat | dvm1981: at least you'll be able to hear something |
| 16:14.57 | Vlat | or not |
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| 16:15.33 | mindlace | cusco: edit /etc/hosts |
| 16:15.41 | dvm1981 | Vlat : He say input/output error :-( |
| 16:15.47 | mindlace | cusco also, sudo hostname -s |
| 16:16.02 | dvm1981 | Vlat : i must be add the previous suggested modules |
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| 16:16.22 | stew | dvm1981: /dev/dsp wont work until you load snd-pcm-oss |
| 16:17.09 | dvm1981 | stew : ;-) |
| 16:17.51 | dvm1981 | stew : There are days before i understand some things .... But i will luck, slowlyier :-) |
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| 16:19.06 | dvm1981 | stew : I have loaded the modules and redo the cat /vml.... command, but he say input/output error |
| 16:19.15 | cusco | thanks mindstrm |
| 16:19.25 | cusco | oops |
| 16:19.33 | cusco | that was mindlace.. who left |
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| 16:20.15 | stew | dvm1981: check dmesg |
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| 16:20.40 | ludovicus | hey all, having some debian networking issues.. my box used to connect fine to the internet.. now i get issues.. |
| 16:20.53 | ludovicus | my nic card is correctly set up |
| 16:20.58 | harfooz | hi all. I have a fresh etch installation and I want to disable root login access via ssh, however the ssh_config file looks way different than it does in sarge. What's the proper way to disable root access with the etch ssh_config? |
| 16:21.13 | dvm1981 | stew : dmesg say 'sound card not found or device busy' |
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| 16:21.25 | cahoot | harfooz: sshd_config |
| 16:21.59 | stew | dvm1981: you probably need to figure out IRQ / ioport settings |
| 16:22.24 | dvm1981 | stew : Hoella :-$ |
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| 16:22.44 | Vlat | dvm1981: io probally will be 0x220, irq 3,5,7,9,11 |
| 16:22.48 | bibe | harfooz : PermitRootLogin no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config, I think |
| 16:22.52 | Vlat | as far as i remember these old soundcards |
| 16:22.57 | junix|work | why am i getting this: http://pastebin.com/499412 |
| 16:23.00 | junix|work | ?? |
| 16:23.08 | dvm1981 | stew : 'XMMS' looks nice here in testing, i would like ... ;-) |
| 16:23.17 | harfooz | bibe, can I simply add that line to /etc/ssh/ssh_config? |
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| 16:23.25 | harfooz | and restart ssh? |
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| 16:23.32 | cahoot | harfooz: sshd_config |
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| 16:23.34 | dvm1981 | Vlat : I must be change the IRQ settings or so ? |
| 16:23.40 | bibe | harfooz : be sure that there isn't any PermitRootLogin yes |
| 16:23.46 | bbrazil | junix|work: you got libncurses5-dev installed? |
| 16:23.56 | harfooz | cahoot, I don't have that file here (sshd_config) -- only /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
| 16:23.57 | junix|work | no |
| 16:24.00 | junix|work | prolly not |
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| 16:24.32 | cahoot | harfooz: you really sure? |
| 16:24.43 | bbrazil | junix|work: then install it |
| 16:24.45 | dvm1981 | I do not what to do .... |
| 16:24.45 | bibe | harfooz : dpkg -x /var/cache/apt/archives/ssh*.deb /tmp/sshd_etch |
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| 16:24.50 | junix|work | bbrazil: i have it installed |
| 16:24.51 | a1fa | anybody using nameif? |
| 16:24.54 | harfooz | moduli ssh_config |
| 16:24.55 | malex | Hi. What did the experimental archive locations change to? |
| 16:25.06 | a1fa | i cant not change my interface name, it is not very specific error |
| 16:25.11 | Vlat | dvm1981: i guess so. try modprobe snd-es18xx io=0x220 irq=5 dma16=5 or something like this |
| 16:25.13 | harfooz | cahoot, only moduli and ssh_config |
| 16:25.17 | harfooz | in etch |
| 16:25.45 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Hhhhmmmm, ;-) |
| 16:25.47 | cahoot | harfooz: something is broken then |
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| 16:26.08 | Vlat | dvm1981: /proc/bus/isa/* probally can help you to figure them out (not sure) |
| 16:26.23 | ludovicus | so in sshd_config all you have to do is change the line under heading #authentication where the line is Permit RootLogin to 'no', Right? |
| 16:26.23 | junix|work | bbrazil: ...? |
| 16:26.40 | ludovicus | well that's what i did |
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| 16:26.44 | bbrazil | junix|work: I don't know in that case. what command did you run? |
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| 16:27.41 | a1fa | i am having a problem with nameif |
| 16:27.52 | a1fa | it wont rename network interfaces |
| 16:27.57 | ludovicus | back to my networking issue :) |
| 16:28.01 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Suggested not work, thinking how must be procceed, thx :-) i test .... |
| 16:28.01 | ludovicus | my god it works now |
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| 16:28.18 | ludovicus | One of you white hats out there definately helped me out |
| 16:28.19 | junix|work | bbrazil: make-kpkg --mkimage binary-indep binary-arch kernel_source kernel_headers kernel_image buildpackage modules |
| 16:28.25 | a1fa | cannot change name of eth3 to UNTRUSTED: Invalid argument |
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| 16:28.38 | a1fa | but argument is right |
| 16:28.39 | a1fa | ~nameif |
| 16:28.41 | apt | i guess nameif is a tool to juggle the order in which your nics appear, see http://xenotime.net/linux/doc/network-interface-names.txt |
| 16:29.01 | syl-2 | hi there, what's wrong with the following command: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart |
| 16:29.06 | ludovicus | should any of you go to www.mlinux.org meetings. beer is on me, a fricken pint-0-guiness |
| 16:29.06 | bbrazil | junix|work: I'm afriad I don't know make-kpkg too well |
| 16:29.07 | ludovicus | thanks |
| 16:29.20 | tpr | how do I not make gdm autostart? ive looked into /etc/init.d/ but I cant really figure it out :) |
| 16:29.24 | junix|work | poop |
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| 16:29.29 | ludovicus | /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
| 16:29.38 | dimir | tpr: apt-get remove --purge gdm! |
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| 16:29.59 | tpr | dimir i removed X11 from aptitude, it kind of fucked things up, honestly I dont want X :) |
| 16:29.59 | dvm1981 | Vlat : so i must change the irq part and the dma or just where there are irq ? Ok also look in the proc after test, not knowledge about proc |
| 16:30.05 | ludovicus | in your /etc/X11 directory |
| 16:30.15 | ludovicus | you should find a file *looking* |
| 16:30.16 | tpr | ludovicus: and I dnot want to restart it, but disable the autostart :P |
| 16:30.17 | dimir | tpr: remove gdm |
| 16:30.20 | Vlat | dvm1981: also you can change IO base too |
| 16:30.23 | ludovicus | oh |
| 16:30.24 | ludovicus | sorry |
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| 16:30.34 | Vlat | dvm1981: dma part isn't nescessery usually |
| 16:30.34 | tpr | dimir: that wont remove anything 'important'? =) |
| 16:30.42 | dimir | tpr: no |
| 16:30.43 | ludovicus | you may be able to rename the init.d file something nonstandard |
| 16:30.50 | tpr | dimir: aight thanks, i had to reinstall X11 it seems |
| 16:30.53 | dimir | tpr: but check what it'll say first |
| 16:30.54 | Vlat | dvm1981: traditionally soundcards are on 0x220 |
| 16:30.56 | dvm1981 | Vlat : I do some test and let you know. :-) |
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| 16:31.03 | dimir | tpr: np |
| 16:31.11 | ludovicus | then it wont start at boot |
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| 16:31.15 | Vlat | dvm1981: there're a lot of combinations :-) |
| 16:31.20 | wooz | hi.. |
| 16:31.28 | Vlat | hi |
| 16:31.34 | stew | Vlat: have you told him how to remove the module before he re-modprobes it with the new parameters? |
| 16:31.39 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Yes |
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| 16:31.41 | tpr | ludovicus: ok, gonna try to remove it maybe im succesful that way :) |
| 16:31.47 | tpr | or then just rename the start script |
| 16:31.56 | Vlat | stew: nope. should he ? |
| 16:32.06 | ludovicus | never remove bro |
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| 16:32.09 | Vlat | isn't it replaces itself with the new instance ? |
| 16:32.13 | ludovicus | just rename |
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| 16:32.28 | stew | Vlat: i think you need to remove it, but i'm not sure |
| 16:32.28 | wooz | I've a pb after 1 dist-upgrade (unstable) on amd64 / dual screen (radeon) syst... startx => balckscreen and block all consol else SSH.. any idea ? |
| 16:32.30 | tpr | ludovicus: well I dont have use for a gui on the server, why would I want it? :f |
| 16:32.38 | ludovicus | you never know |
| 16:32.53 | ludovicus | my fatal flaws have always been associated with rm |
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| 16:33.08 | tpr | ludovicus: well I know I dont need X because the box doesnt even have a monitor :) but yea I agree removing X11 wasnt a good idea |
| 16:33.08 | stew | wooz: which driver are you using? ati/radeon or fglrx? any errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ? |
| 16:33.08 | ludovicus | i like to mv filename.bak |
| 16:33.15 | dvm1981 | Vlat : I have changed only the IRQ part form 5,7,9,11 but not work, so i must change the 0x220 ? |
| 16:33.21 | wooz | radeon (open source) |
| 16:33.26 | syl-2 | what is the proper way to restart vsftpd without rebooting ? |
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| 16:33.29 | wooz | no error in log file ! |
| 16:33.30 | Vlat | dvm1981: probally so... |
| 16:33.33 | a1fa | anybody using NAMEIF |
| 16:33.34 | ludovicus | i'm a bit newby so that's my caveat/2 cents |
| 16:33.37 | abrotman | syl-2: /etc/init.d/vsftpd restart |
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| 16:33.44 | Vlat | dvm1981: you should try to take a look at bios settings |
| 16:33.56 | dvm1981 | Vlat : What are the other combinasation for the 0x220 ? |
| 16:34.02 | Azar | stew, I have installed Sarge on boburt's box on my DSL connection but he has dialup can you help him please with config for dialup? |
| 16:34.03 | stew | wooz: check that its running at a sane resulotion with "DISPLAY=:0 xdpyinfo" |
| 16:34.06 | Vlat | dvm1981: i'm not sure, but maybe you can find some information according soundcard settings in bios |
| 16:34.07 | boburt | i have a problem. i want to share an internet connection between a windows 2000 box (the host) and a debian linux |
| 16:34.10 | ejofee_ | in kde / kcontrol / appearance and themes / [desktop's] background: when i press the "get new wallpapers" [from the internet], a window *immediately* pops up on which is written "empty page" (so it won't download any wallpaper). can anybody please help me? |
| 16:34.17 | syl-2 | abrotman: i tried and get the response: 500 OOPS: cant open config file: restart |
| 16:34.26 | Vlat | dvm1981: btw, virtualy these can be _anything_ :-) |
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| 16:34.28 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Right ;-) Rebooting the laptop ;-) comming back :-) |
| 16:34.33 | wooz | stew: ok.. i'll try that |
| 16:34.34 | stew | Azar: pppconfig? jeez i don't remember dialup |
| 16:34.39 | a1fa | nameif: cannot change name of eth0 to TRUSTED: Invalid argument |
| 16:34.42 | tpr | another question not entirely debian related though: ive added an IDE disk to my server which has debian on a raid array, now that I reboot it tries to find the OS on the IDE disk, and wont even go to the raid array, theres nothing in bios to correct this! the server is a compaq Proliant ML350, anyone have experience? ^^ |
| 16:34.45 | a1fa | ok wtf? |
| 16:34.52 | Azar | stew me either and my big mistake: I did not installed pppconfig for him |
| 16:34.55 | boburt | ppp is if i wanted to dial in with linux. |
| 16:34.58 | abrotman | syl-2: well .. where's the config file ? |
| 16:35.04 | boburt | but i want to share the connection from windows |
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| 16:35.08 | dvm1981 | Vlat : In past i have changed the default value because that give a problem with i dont remember. |
| 16:35.08 | boburt | via a cable |
| 16:35.24 | Azar | stew he wants to configure to share his dialup connection with his second box on win2k.. |
| 16:35.28 | dvm1981 | Vlat : So i go to looking in the bios |
| 16:35.29 | Vlat | dvm1981: then just use bios values at the module |
| 16:35.46 | dvm1981 | Vlat : Yes, comming back |
| 16:35.53 | Darecon | can someone help me for installing debiam on a toshiba m30x laptop?? |
| 16:36.20 | tpr | Darecon: http://www.tuxmobil.org/ is a good start! |
| 16:36.27 | abrotman | !laptop |
| 16:36.27 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org or also ask me about 'acpi' and 'suspend', or see the debian-laptop mailing list at http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 16:37.02 | syl-2 | :-) |
| 16:37.13 | tanja | Why i dont have all the programs in xfce menu, in kde i have them |
| 16:37.26 | wooz | stew: xdpyinfo: unable to open display ":0" |
| 16:37.31 | abrotman | menu or menu-xdg needs to be installed |
| 16:37.51 | stew | abrotman: is the ipmasq package still the recommended way of setting up masq? |
| 16:38.05 | abrotman | stew: i'm not sure it was ever recommended .. but it is fairly easy :) |
| 16:38.12 | abrotman | !ipmasq |
| 16:38.12 | dpkg | If all you want is NAT (internet connection sharing), apt-get install ipmasq; and be happy. Otherwise learn about it at http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/index.html |
| 16:38.17 | stew | Azar: ^^^ |
| 16:38.28 | Azar | thanks stew :) |
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| 16:38.34 | abrotman | what about me?!?! |
| 16:38.59 | stew | thanks abrotman :) |
| 16:39.01 | boburt | i looked briefly at that before.. seemed to be for linux hosts, my host is a windows box.. but i |
| 16:39.05 | boburt | but i'll check it |
| 16:39.12 | Azar | abrotman, thanks again to you too :) |
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| 16:39.45 | stew | wooz: hmm yeah, i guess that wouldn't work until someone logged into the display, you should be able to get the resulotion /refresh rate from the log |
| 16:40.12 | stew | wooz: you also might try saving your xorg.conf and dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 16:40.24 | wooz | strange.. because it worked before the dist-upgrade !? |
| 16:40.44 | wooz | you think that I need to reconfigure xorg each time ?! |
| 16:40.55 | stew | wooz: xorg is going to major restructuring on its way to 7.0 |
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| 16:41.10 | wooz | oh.. it's why ! |
| 16:41.12 | stew | wooz: it should settle sometime soon, in general you shouldn't have to |
| 16:41.19 | wooz | ok.. I'll try a reconfigure party ,o) |
| 16:41.28 | stew | where soon is within the next year |
| 16:41.33 | wooz | thks for your help.. |
| 16:41.43 | abrotman | isn't 7 already in experimental? |
| 16:41.47 | a1fa | did anybody use nameif? |
| 16:41.49 | stew | wooz: and of course, you should be checking the bts |
| 16:42.02 | wooz | bts? |
| 16:42.06 | abrotman | hrm .. guess not |
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| 16:42.13 | csalad | hy all |
| 16:42.13 | BertoX | hi |
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| 16:42.18 | stew | abrotman: i'm not adding an experimental source just to check :) |
| 16:42.22 | BertoX | does someone here uses vsftpd with ssl plz ? |
| 16:42.27 | csalad | how can i change my deb. lang.? |
| 16:42.35 | abrotman | stew: it's not there yet .. at least .. xserver-xorg isn't |
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| 16:42.45 | csalad | from en to hun |
| 16:42.52 | csalad | ? |
| 16:42.56 | stew | wooz: /msg dpkg btssmite me |
| 16:43.06 | stew | csalad: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 16:43.13 | csalad | thx |
| 16:43.16 | csalad | by |
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| 16:44.27 | ludovicus | strangeness |
| 16:44.37 | ludovicus | i reboot.. and my box now is not connecting... |
| 16:44.48 | ludovicus | to the internet and doesn't ping nada |
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| 16:45.03 | a1fa | did u update? |
| 16:45.07 | mikejn1 | Hello |
| 16:45.07 | ludovicus | yes |
| 16:45.14 | ludovicus | before i rebooted |
| 16:45.16 | a1fa | what did u update? |
| 16:45.25 | ludovicus | apt-get update, everything |
| 16:45.30 | ludovicus | upgrade |
| 16:45.31 | a1fa | did u update kernel? |
| 16:45.34 | ludovicus | yes |
| 16:45.40 | a1fa | reconfigure your modules |
| 16:45.46 | a1fa | ludovicus depmod -a; modconf |
| 16:46.16 | stew | ludovicus: what nic? which version of debian? you probably just got hotplug removed and your driver is no longer being loaded automatically |
| 16:46.39 | ludovicus | sarge. well the nic works alright |
| 16:46.44 | ludovicus | cause i ssh into it |
| 16:46.53 | ludovicus | but when i try to remotely go from box to net.. |
| 16:47.03 | a1fa | can you ping google.com |
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| 16:47.06 | ludovicus | nope |
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| 16:47.08 | a1fa | ok |
| 16:47.13 | a1fa | check your /etc/resolve.conf |
| 16:47.15 | stew | ludovicus: can you ping 72.14.207.99 |
| 16:47.17 | a1fa | and then check your routing |
| 16:47.21 | abrotman | resolv.conf |
| 16:47.35 | a1fa | resolv.conf |
| 16:47.35 | a1fa | right.. sorry |
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| 16:47.37 | a1fa | netstat -nr to check the routing table |
| 16:48.00 | ludovicus | dns |
| 16:48.05 | mikejn1 | Lookingfor some help this am.. I think I know the answer but want to be sure.. I have to reinstall windows on my system.. The only reason it is there ids because of school.. If I reinstall it, my grub loader will be messed up.. I installed Debian using the pocket cd.. I am thinking I need the full first cd to fix the grub. am I correct or can it be fixed using the minimal cd.. |
| 16:48.05 | ludovicus | it must be dns |
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| 16:48.21 | ludovicus | i have resolv.conf installed.. |
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| 16:48.25 | abrotman | a simple nslookup would have told him if dns was working |
| 16:48.33 | stew | mikejn1: any cd you can boot and mount your root partition with, /msg dpkg fixmbr |
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| 16:49.30 | mikejn1 | ok so just issue that and it will take care of it "/msg dpkg fixmbr" |
| 16:49.51 | mikejn1 | when i get to the partition |
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| 16:50.13 | wooz | stew: thx.. it was a problem with xorg.conf... it changed with 6.9.0 version !!! |
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| 16:50.56 | a1fa | I can not change my interface name with ip |
| 16:50.57 | a1fa | SIOCSIFNAME: Invalid argument |
| 16:51.09 | a1fa | ip link set dev eth0 name TRUSTED |
| 16:51.15 | a1fa | its annoying as crap |
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| 16:51.19 | a1fa | i tried nameif |
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| 16:51.22 | a1fa | ip |
| 16:51.27 | a1fa | and almost everything |
| 16:51.29 | a1fa | still nothing |
| 16:51.40 | stew | !tell mikejn1 about fixmbr |
| 16:51.41 | thingfish | mikejn1: no, stew is trying to tell you to msg one of the channel bots for instructions. |
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| 16:52.01 | mikejn1 | I remember that now.. Sorry |
| 16:52.10 | mikejn1 | I was just gong to do that |
| 16:52.34 | mikejn1 | My brain is not awake yet.. I need coffee! |
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| 16:52.40 | thingfish | hehe |
| 16:52.41 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:52.42 | a1fa | SIOCSIFNAME: Invalid argument |
| 16:52.42 | jansel001 | hi |
| 16:52.45 | thingfish | coffee=good |
| 16:52.47 | a1fa | wtf! |
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| 16:52.50 | a1fa | this is insane |
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| 16:53.03 | bbrazil | a1fa: is the interface up? |
| 16:53.04 | jansel001 | Where seach the server of ubuntu |
| 16:53.18 | a1fa | yes |
| 16:53.28 | bbrazil | a1fa: thats probably the problem |
| 16:53.28 | a1fa | i take it down, same result |
| 16:53.32 | Shadowcat | jansel001: read the topic |
| 16:53.49 | a1fa | its not |
| 16:53.50 | stew | i can only set link name when the interface is down |
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| 16:54.01 | a1fa | ifconfig eth3 down; ip link set eth3 name eth6 |
| 16:54.01 | a1fa | SIOCSIFNAME: Invalid argument |
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| 16:54.31 | bbrazil | a1fa: maybe you have iptables rules referencing it? |
| 16:54.50 | jansel001 | I need the name server of ubunto |
| 16:54.50 | ludovicus | thanks fellas, my prob was dns |
| 16:54.52 | jansel001 | please |
| 16:54.55 | a1fa | nope |
| 16:54.56 | a1fa | nothing |
| 16:55.04 | ludovicus | chao |
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| 16:55.09 | stew | jansel001: "dig ubuntu.com ns" |
| 16:55.11 | Shadowcat | !tell jansel001 about ubuntu |
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| 16:55.28 | a1fa | its weerd |
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| 16:55.32 | a1fa | it wont change name |
| 16:55.35 | a1fa | its sparc |
| 16:55.41 | a1fa | but it shouldnt matter |
| 16:55.47 | a1fa | i want to name it the way i want to name it |
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| 16:56.11 | jansel001 | here no help to poeper |
| 16:56.12 | a1fa | ip link set dev eth0 name TRUSTED |
| 16:56.12 | a1fa | SIOCSIFNAME: Invalid argument |
| 16:56.16 | jansel001 | bye |
| 16:56.19 | a1fa | no f0xxing way |
| 16:56.20 | a1fa | dude |
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| 16:56.48 | Shadowcat | jansel001: Ubuntu is NOT debian, you're in the WRONG CHANNEL |
| 16:56.53 | Shadowcat | go ask in #ubuntu |
| 16:56.54 | Shadowcat | sheesh |
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| 16:57.28 | a1fa | maybe kernel is just defuct |
| 16:57.46 | raf256[laptop] | !ubuntusmite jansel001 |
| 16:57.52 | theacolyte | I really messed something up with apache2 -- I have been trying to get it back into order though. I go to my website and php files prompt to download it doesn't render it. |
| 16:58.12 | raf256[laptop] | theacolyte: reinstall apache2 then |
| 16:58.20 | raf256[laptop] | theacolyte: PHP is insalled? |
| 16:58.21 | theacolyte | I have been. |
| 16:58.24 | theacolyte | Yes |
| 16:58.27 | bbrazil | theacolyte: a2emodenable php (or similar) |
| 16:58.38 | a1fa | theacolyte : do you have it enabled? |
| 16:58.38 | theacolyte | php4 is already the newest version. |
| 16:58.43 | a1fa | that dont mean shit |
| 16:58.47 | a1fa | do you have the module enabled |
| 16:58.58 | theacolyte | It's in mods-enabled, yes |
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| 16:59.04 | theacolyte | is there additional set up? |
| 16:59.14 | a1fa | did u restart apache? |
| 16:59.17 | a1fa | or reload? |
| 16:59.23 | theacolyte | restart |
| 16:59.31 | a1fa | read your error.log |
| 16:59.33 | a1fa | dont paste here |
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| 16:59.48 | ryushe | hi there, I have a machine running on 2 x SATA disks in a RAID1 config, with a CD-ROM as hdc. Sync speeds between the disks in the raid is on average around 1600k/sec, which seems way too slow. Could this have to do with still running the installed kernel? |
| 16:59.49 | a1fa | you dont have .php in mime then |
| 16:59.51 | stew | theacolyte: you need to make sure you ahve a AddType line for .php files somewhere |
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| 17:00.03 | a1fa | stew: right |
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| 17:00.15 | Shadowcat | ryushe: is this real or fake raid? |
| 17:00.17 | Vlat | as far as i remember it's not enough just to enable the php module, handler should be described too |
| 17:00.24 | ryushe | software raid yes |
| 17:00.36 | Shadowcat | fake raid in other words |
| 17:00.37 | tono | hola |
| 17:00.42 | ryushe | indeed |
| 17:00.47 | stew | ryushe: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 17:00.51 | Shadowcat | ryushe: using what? LVM? |
| 17:00.53 | stew | Shadowcat: that's not fakeraid |
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| 17:01.11 | theacolyte | http://pastebin.com/499457 for error.log |
| 17:01.16 | ryushe | 2.8.6-2-386 ie. the standard 2.6 kernel from the debian installer |
| 17:01.18 | Shadowcat | stew: I should have used the term "Windows raid", but ya |
| 17:01.31 | Shadowcat | could just be that it doesn't recognize your ide controller |
| 17:01.38 | Shadowcat | and is running in pio4 mode |
| 17:01.40 | stew | Shadowcat: not at all, its linux software raid, not fakeraid |
| 17:01.48 | ryushe | poor mans raid yes, don't have the cash for a decent raid setup yet :( |
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| 17:02.03 | Shadowcat | !beat stew |
| 17:02.05 | theacolyte | stew: AddTYpe is enabled |
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| 17:02.17 | ryushe | Shadowcat > any way to check that in a newly installed machine? |
| 17:02.21 | ZiDaNe | how to install jre in debian testing ??? |
| 17:02.26 | stew | Shadowcat: why do you do that with the bot? |
| 17:02.31 | Shadowcat | ryushe: install hdparm |
| 17:02.41 | trym | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:02.50 | ryushe | give me 5 min. this machine is slow as hell atm :( |
| 17:02.51 | Shadowcat | trym: why do you need KDE 3.5? |
| 17:02.51 | Vlat | theacolyte: log is ok, just paste you httpd.conf to pastebin |
| 17:02.59 | trym | Shadowcat: did I say I need it ? |
| 17:03.07 | theacolyte | wait, is it apache2.conf or httpd.conf? |
| 17:03.14 | trym | Shadowcat: just wondering whether it is or not |
| 17:03.16 | theacolyte | I thought it was apache2.conf |
| 17:03.22 | Shadowcat | trym: are you planning on upgrading to KDE 3.5? |
| 17:03.41 | trym | Shadowcat: I might.. |
| 17:03.49 | ryushe | Shadowcat > both disks in the raid dma is off ... |
| 17:03.54 | a1fa | theacolyte : AddType .php |
| 17:04.01 | Shadowcat | ryushe: well you have your answer then |
| 17:04.01 | stew | trym: yes it started going into unstable this weekend |
| 17:04.06 | Shadowcat | fix your ide drivers |
| 17:04.14 | ryushe | right |
| 17:04.21 | Shadowcat | stew: he's gonna upgrade to unstable just to run KDE 3.5 |
| 17:04.26 | Shadowcat | boy is he in for one hell of a ride |
| 17:04.33 | trym | stew: nice.. I guess there's a big web of dependency shiznit that has to be worked out |
| 17:04.34 | ryushe | will compile new kernel then for this machine |
| 17:04.35 | theacolyte | a1fa: there's already an add type in there |
| 17:04.36 | a1fa | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.41 | ryushe | thanks guys |
| 17:04.44 | theacolyte | that's already in mime.types too |
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| 17:04.58 | a1fa | make sure your site-enabled |
| 17:05.00 | a1fa | supports it too |
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| 17:05.20 | stew | Shadowcat: how did you determine that? |
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| 17:06.01 | theacolyte | a1fa: sites-enabled, default000 there's nothing saying yea or nay for php |
| 17:06.04 | stew | Shadowcat: well i was paying attention when he was asking how to setup pinning to make sure he didn't install kde from unstable |
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| 17:06.19 | trym | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.23 | trym | stew has a good memory |
| 17:06.28 | Shadowcat | why does he need apt pinning? |
| 17:06.30 | trym | would you consider being my ram ? |
| 17:06.34 | theacolyte | what's a way to totally uninstall apache2? I've done apt-get remove apache2-common, etc |
| 17:06.43 | Shadowcat | unless he's running a really mixed system |
| 17:06.44 | stew | Shadowcat: so that he doesn't upgrade to unstable |
| 17:06.46 | trym | Shadowcat: I want kdevelop.. but its not in testing rep. |
| 17:06.47 | stew | Shadowcat: he is |
| 17:07.04 | trym | its not mixed right now |
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| 17:07.06 | Shadowcat | trym: the maintainer for kdevelop seems to be awol or something |
| 17:07.13 | Shadowcat | that package hasn't been maintained for ages |
| 17:07.15 | trym | but that can change real fast ;) |
| 17:07.37 | trym | so I need to kick awols ass or buy him a beer? |
| 17:07.42 | trym | or both.. |
| 17:07.50 | Shadowcat | **awol |
| 17:07.56 | Shadowcat | !awol |
| 17:07.57 | dpkg | awol is probably Absent WithOut Leave; a military term. |
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| 17:08.27 | odla | abrotman: do you think i'll f-up my system if i upgrade from sarge to testing if i've got a bunch of packages from backports on my system? |
| 17:08.32 | trym | let's hope he hasnt died |
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| 17:08.57 | trym | now compiling kde++ really takes time |
| 17:09.06 | Shadowcat | why are you compiling kde? |
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| 17:09.15 | trym | shadowcat: for kicks |
| 17:09.27 | Shadowcat | knock yourself out |
| 17:09.30 | trym | lol.. |
| 17:09.31 | trym | jk |
| 17:09.58 | trym | well I really want kdevelop.. and I thought I might use konstrukt to compile kdevelop for me.. but it of course had dependencies.. and it has been compiling for a few hours |
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| 17:10.08 | Shadowcat | !gentoosmite trym |
| 17:10.24 | trym | eek |
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| 17:10.40 | trym | lets not forget i will need an update in 10 days |
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| 17:11.09 | trym | you get a 0.8% performance boost by using gentoo.. but you spend way more compiling everything |
| 17:11.19 | trym | in 99% of all cases, gentoo is pointless |
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| 17:11.45 | trym | qbasic.exe > distcc |
| 17:12.00 | Vlat | trym: a nice way to utilize cpu time :-) |
| 17:12.05 | Shadowcat | but then again, distcc > * > trym |
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| 17:12.23 | trym | you mean... distcc > * < trym ? |
| 17:12.31 | trym | ;) |
| 17:12.40 | trym | ahh.. *compilehate* |
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| 17:12.53 | trym | sweet.. WinME. best OS ever |
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| 17:13.08 | Shadowcat | umm right you just lost all repect in here |
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| 17:13.20 | trym | i heard nasa has a winME cluster.. doing all the important analyzing etc |
| 17:13.23 | _gass_ | hello does apt suport (or dpkg) ftp SLL/TLS tuneling? |
| 17:13.34 | ke6isf | !troll trym |
| 17:14.30 | caphuso | _gass_: why in god's name would it need something like that? |
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| 17:14.31 | trym | yeah.. wee a troll. |
| 17:14.31 | Shadowcat | caphuso: he's probably paranoid about security or something |
| 17:14.31 | caphuso | Shadowcat: that's not a reason |
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| 17:14.38 | Shadur | Rrrrrgh. |
| 17:14.40 | Shadowcat | caphuso: I guess not |
| 17:14.41 | trym | so mr shadowcat.. any better way of obtaining kdevelop for me right now.. other than compiling it non-debiany ? |
| 17:14.54 | trym | well.. I wont settle for obtaining |
| 17:14.58 | trym | i want it working too.. |
| 17:14.59 | Shadur | Are there any semi-decent live-cd firewall distros? |
| 17:15.03 | Shadowcat | trym: frankly I really don't care |
| 17:15.11 | trym | shadowcat: At least you're honest |
| 17:15.15 | Shadowcat | and sometimes even experimental |
| 17:15.28 | _gass_ | caphuso: to install some *important* .deb packages |
| 17:15.39 | Vlat | stable is for conservators |
| 17:15.40 | pharm | trym: on Debian stable? |
| 17:15.41 | Shadowcat | I ran openoffice.org2 from experimental for several months |
| 17:15.43 | trym | maybe I should run unstable too.. and everything I have the slightest problem.. Ill come screaming shadowcat |
| 17:15.44 | _gass_ | and don't be cught by any proxy |
| 17:15.53 | ArtVandalae | Does http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/ give anyone else PHP errors? |
| 17:15.55 | trym | pharm: now, would that make any sense? |
| 17:16.01 | danieldg | _gass_: debian packages have gpg signatures |
| 17:16.02 | caphuso | _gass_: you still make no sense |
| 17:16.06 | Shadowcat | trym: that'll result in me adding you to ignore, and the rest of the channel ignoring you |
| 17:16.09 | pharm | trym: wait for KDE 3.5 to get into unstable, then backport it together with kdevelop? |
| 17:16.17 | trym | shadowcat: fortunatly I have your cell# |
| 17:16.36 | Shadowcat | !beat trym |
| 17:16.42 | pharm | trym: Not being a mindreader, I'm asking you :) |
| 17:16.45 | trym | pharm... yes.. waiting :) Im using komodo here.. and Its driving me insane.. must have.. kdevelop.. or will die |
| 17:16.57 | trym | pharm: ;) im running testing right now.. |
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| 17:16.59 | Shadowcat | trym: good4u |
| 17:17.08 | ke6isf | ArtVandalae: I successfully read it, but it took a minute. |
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| 17:17.25 | pharm | trym: kdevelop 3.2.2 not good enough? |
| 17:17.36 | trym | pharm: sure.. if I can get it somewhere? |
| 17:17.47 | trym | kdevelop 3.2.2 > null |
| 17:17.53 | Vlat | by the way, are there any other good IDE than kdevelop ? |
| 17:18.04 | trym | microsoft visual studio |
| 17:18.06 | stew | trym: have you asked in #debian-kde about kdevelop? |
| 17:18.06 | pharm | trym: it's in unstable. Install an unstable chroot is probably safest... |
| 17:18.07 | trym | but it sucks |
| 17:18.15 | ke6isf | Vlat: emacs. |
| 17:18.21 | Vlat | trym: good thing. but doesn't run here |
| 17:18.22 | trym | stew: no.. not yet.. but I will.. thanks for the tip :) |
| 17:18.29 | Vlat | ke6isf: vi forever ;-) |
| 17:18.37 | ke6isf | Vlat: ed is the standard editor! =^_^= |
| 17:18.51 | trym | IDE != editor |
| 17:19.03 | ke6isf | !emacs |
| 17:19.03 | trym | IDE =~ notepad |
| 17:19.04 | dpkg | emacs is the extensible macro editor that is already quite extensively extended. A popular editor choice with major and minor modes for almost every conceivable language and task. High priests of emacs have even been known to use emacs as their shell, and sometimes have whole systems with init=/usr/bin/emacs. [Escape Meta Alt Control Shift] |
| 17:19.07 | luncai | in KDE Info Center --> Audio device: NOT ENABLE IN CONFIG - Where is the config file? |
| 17:19.11 | Vlat | too lot of weird keyboard combos |
| 17:19.20 | Vlat | like in mortal combat :-) |
| 17:19.25 | ke6isf | trym: emacs is everything except the kitchen sink. |
| 17:19.27 | trym | ah mortal combat.. |
| 17:19.47 | Shadowcat | ke6isf: actually it has the kitchen sink too |
| 17:19.49 | theacolyte | why is it that when I install php4, there is no /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php4.conf |
| 17:19.50 | trym | ke6isf: videotape it being your girlfriend.. and I'll delete all other editors/IDEs |
| 17:20.04 | trym | theacolyte: /etc/php |
| 17:20.06 | ke6isf | trym: Sorry, I got a woman. |
| 17:20.22 | theacolyte | I know where it is, I'm wondering why it's not installing |
| 17:20.23 | ke6isf | Shad0wcat: Somebody wrote the elisp for that did they? |
| 17:20.23 | trym | ke6isf: surely she can't be jealous of an editor ? |
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| 17:20.25 | theacolyte | I've done this before |
| 17:21.01 | theacolyte | I want to try to remove EVERYTHING that has to do with apache, but I can't figure out a good way, I've removed everything with php in it and apache in it |
| 17:21.05 | theacolyte | this is getting ridiculous |
| 17:21.14 | Vlat | Shad0wcat: btw, emacs is a great OS. the only thing it needs is a good text editor |
| 17:21.20 | Shadowcat | aptitude purge <package> |
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| 17:21.43 | trym | schwo |
| 17:21.46 | Shadowcat | for example, aptitude purge Vlat vim vi |
| 17:21.49 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 17:21.50 | theacolyte | Why can't I wildcard packages? |
| 17:21.54 | theacolyte | apache* |
| 17:22.02 | trym | you can |
| 17:22.08 | trym | at least when installing |
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| 17:22.57 | Shadowcat | actually, when you want to purge all of kde |
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| 17:23.02 | Shadowcat | just purge kde4libs |
| 17:23.10 | Shadowcat | apt will purge every other qt app along with it |
| 17:23.19 | trym | schweet |
| 17:23.25 | Shadowcat | I'm sure apache has something similar, a lowest denominator package |
| 17:23.41 | Shadowcat | find that, purge it, and watch apt go crazy |
| 17:24.05 | theacolyte | I'm trying to find it but failing. |
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| 17:25.26 | smo_ | hi, is udev independant or need hotplug ?? |
| 17:25.27 | theacolyte | AHHHH |
| 17:25.31 | theacolyte | I think I may have figured it out |
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| 17:25.39 | theacolyte | Package libapache2-mod-php4 is stuck |
| 17:25.46 | stew | smo_: independent in sarge, conflicting in testing/unstable |
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| 17:27.00 | stew | theacolyte: what do you mean by stuck? |
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| 17:28.01 | bni | Anyone know where I can find precompiled kernels made for booting over the network with PXE, DHCP and TFTP? |
| 17:28.01 | a1fa | if /etc/network/ ported to iproute package? |
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| 17:28.09 | a1fa | i dont want to use ifconfig anymore |
| 17:28.14 | a1fa | i want to use ip instead |
| 17:28.33 | theacolyte | stew: every time I go to remove apache, it says that it tries to remove it but it can't because it doesn't exist |
| 17:28.39 | stew | smo_: actually i lied, udev depends on hotplug in sarge |
| 17:28.41 | theacolyte | so... it wasn't being installed to begin with |
| 17:28.56 | theacolyte | something tells me libapache2-mod-php4 is necessary |
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| 17:29.00 | caphuso | a1fa: how exactly do you use ifconfig with /etc/network? |
| 17:29.09 | pharm | bni: From the debian-installer? |
| 17:29.22 | jelly | theacolyte: what exact command is failing? |
| 17:29.28 | a1fa | caphuso : doesnt that script run ifconfig? |
| 17:29.32 | stew | theacolyte: /msg dpkg bat |
| 17:29.35 | caphuso | a1fa: "that script"? |
| 17:29.40 | bni | pharm: tnx, will have a look there |
| 17:29.44 | a1fa | script -> ifconfig <-- ./etc/network |
| 17:29.56 | a1fa | caphuso the networking script |
| 17:30.04 | a1fa | caphuso /etc/init.d/networking |
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| 17:30.16 | a1fa | caphuso : all I am trying to do is to rename my interfaces |
| 17:30.25 | caphuso | a1fa: grep ifconfig /etc/init.d/networking |
| 17:30.50 | a1fa | uf my bad |
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| 17:31.34 | a1fa | i mapped eth0 via MAC to "TRUSTED" |
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| 17:31.38 | a1fa | iface TRUSTED |
| 17:31.44 | a1fa | but the kernel name doesnt get changed |
| 17:31.46 | pharm | bni: eg http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/sarge/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot/ for sarge i386 netboot images |
| 17:31.48 | theacolyte | HAH I fixed it |
| 17:31.53 | theacolyte | GDit that was ridiculous |
| 17:31.53 | a1fa | i have to use ip link set dev eth0 name TRUSTED |
| 17:31.54 | a1fa | to change it |
| 17:31.55 | caphuso | a1fa: was the interface down when you did it? |
| 17:32.08 | a1fa | yeah |
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| 17:32.35 | freshness | hello |
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| 17:32.49 | freshness | how can i install php on a debian root server? |
| 17:32.57 | zeballin3 | Hi folks. KDE problem has everyone baffled (on #kde). Korganizer icon will not show in system tray on restart. I've checked the two boxes on right-click, I've looked at the rc files. This is on new install on wife' laptop. Anyone have an idea? |
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| 17:33.51 | nuskool | zeballin3: maybe adding it to xinitrc? |
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| 17:35.27 | stew | freshness: what web server are you going to run it with? |
| 17:35.32 | stew | (if any) |
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| 17:36.11 | freshness | i think it is apache |
| 17:36.17 | freshness | how can i find out? |
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| 17:36.56 | stew | freshness: dpkg -l | grep apache ; and tell us if either apache or apache2 pops out with lines starting with ii |
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| 17:38.47 | freshness | ii apache 1.3.33-6 versatile, high-performance HTTP server |
| 17:38.49 | pharm | freshness: "aptitude install php5" not do it for you? |
| 17:39.17 | stew | freshness: apt-get install libapache-mod-php4 |
| 17:39.19 | pharm | freshness: (should drag in apache in the dependencies IIRC) |
| 17:39.50 | stew | pharm: i would not assume that he is running testing or unstable |
| 17:40.08 | pharm | stew: point |
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| 17:40.36 | stew | pharm: i would assume that he is running stable, and php5 isn't available in stable |
| 17:40.59 | freshness | http://pastebin.com/499509 |
| 17:41.01 | pharm | In which case "aptitude install php4" should do the trick... |
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| 17:41.25 | stew | freshness: that looks good |
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| 17:41.49 | cyzie | hello all, after i partition and format a hdd. user cant write file to the directory. where did i gone wrong ? can anybody help ? |
| 17:41.49 | a1fa | caphuso : anyway to change the interface name via configuration scripts? |
| 17:42.04 | a1fa | maybe pre-up |
| 17:42.04 | caphuso | a1fa: i've used nameif in the past |
| 17:42.13 | a1fa | nameif aint working that fine for me |
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| 17:42.19 | a1fa | pre-up ip link set maybe? |
| 17:42.31 | a1fa | is that what it is? |
| 17:42.32 | pharm | or possible "aptitude install apache php4" depending on the dependencies. |
| 17:42.33 | a1fa | pre-up? |
| 17:42.37 | theacolyte | omg this is ridiculous |
| 17:42.48 | caphuso | a1fa: you need to change the name before ifup starts doing its job |
| 17:42.59 | theacolyte | I had it working, but then I modified default, to comment out the redirect to apache2-default and it broke again |
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| 17:43.02 | a1fa | caphuso : i am using map via mac addy |
| 17:43.17 | a1fa | caphuso : so all i need to do is have it pre-up |
| 17:43.22 | a1fa | maybe |
| 17:43.24 | a1fa | methinks |
| 17:43.30 | theacolyte | now its downloading the php again |
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| 17:43.39 | EricL | I just installed Sarge from the install disk and I can't get a new kernel to work. I have tried 2.6.8, 2.6.15, 2.4.27 and nothing seems to work. I keep getting kernel panics from grub. The only one that works is the install kernel. |
| 17:43.47 | EricL | Is this a problem for anyone else? |
| 17:43.52 | caphuso | a1fa: well, if ifup doesn't care that you change the device name in the middle of its job, then lucky you |
| 17:44.10 | ryushe | anyone here have any experience with Marvell Gigabit NICs? |
| 17:44.19 | a1fa | caphuso : i will keep the names the same |
| 17:44.47 | pharm | EricL: Nope: I think we're all still here. Where's the panic? |
| 17:45.02 | caphuso | a1fa: uhm, if the name stays the same, why are you trying to rename it at all? |
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| 17:45.23 | a1fa | i messed up :P |
| 17:45.28 | a1fa | the box didnt come up again |
| 17:45.45 | smo_ | how can i do for hotplug if i apt-get install it it remove udev hal usbmount.... |
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| 17:46.15 | a1fa | it changed the name |
| 17:46.18 | a1fa | :P |
| 17:46.20 | a1fa | but it never brought it up |
| 17:46.21 | EricL | pharm: It says that it can't find the root device and that I should try specifying "root=/dev/hdXX" on the boot line or in the grub file. |
| 17:46.24 | Teskupo | hello |
| 17:46.25 | a1fa | so i will do pre-up |
| 17:46.31 | a1fa | post-up |
| 17:46.33 | a1fa | and up |
| 17:46.34 | EricL | pharm: I have already done that, I have "root=/dev/hda1" |
| 17:46.36 | a1fa | and down :P |
| 17:46.36 | cyzie | hello all, after i partition and format a hdd. user cant write file to the directory. where did i gone wrong ? can anybody help ? |
| 17:46.40 | stew | smo_: if you are running testing and unstable you cannot have both hotplug and udev. udev now takes over all of the hotplug functionality except for th autoloading of kernel modules |
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| 17:47.13 | Shadowcat | heh that actually simpifies things |
| 17:47.14 | Teskupo | someone use the program azureus for download thing?? |
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| 17:47.25 | Shadowcat | what about azureus? |
| 17:47.26 | Vlat | Teskupo: me, sometimes |
| 17:47.27 | smo_ | ok, i made a script to load my firmwares |
| 17:47.32 | theacolyte | OH NO WAY |
| 17:47.39 | Teskupo | and how you install :S |
| 17:47.47 | smo_ | i search a way to use udev to execute it automatically when i plugg the usb |
| 17:47.48 | pharm | EricL: do you get the device appearing in the boot log? Maybe the right kernel drivers aren't being put into the initrd... |
| 17:47.51 | theacolyte | stew: Firefox was running a screwed up cached version, it works in internet explorer |
| 17:47.52 | theacolyte | LOL |
| 17:47.53 | Vlat | Teskupo: install java first :-) |
| 17:47.56 | Teskupo | i cant put it on im getting mad |
| 17:48.02 | Teskupo | i do it |
| 17:48.09 | repp | cyzie: there's probably more steps that you did.. can you describe? |
| 17:48.10 | EricL | pharm: I haven't made an initrd for any of the other kernels. |
| 17:48.18 | smo_ | possible even without hotplug? |
| 17:48.39 | EricL | pharm: Since when is that necessary to boot? |
| 17:48.49 | cyzie | repp, the last part is that i added an entry to fstab. then i create a directory using root. user cant write file to the directory. |
| 17:48.54 | pharm | EricL: ISTR that one gets made by default when you install a new kernel -- *everything* is modular... |
| 17:48.58 | Vlat | Teskupo: grab JVM from java.sun.com, then run make-jpkg <.bin file you downloaded> . The result will be a nince java .deb |
| 17:49.05 | pharm | EricL: including IDE drivers... |
| 17:49.11 | tombs | hi all |
| 17:49.14 | Teskupo | ooh i see |
| 17:49.18 | EricL | pharm: ISTR? |
| 17:49.23 | Teskupo | i have to say that im new in this vlat jeje |
| 17:49.24 | Vlat | Teskupo: make-jpkg is in java-package package |
| 17:49.27 | pharm | EricL: I Seem To Remember |
| 17:49.35 | repp | cyzie: a user must either own the directory, or be a member of a group that has write permissions to the directory. |
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| 17:49.49 | Vlat | Teskupo: apt-get java-package then :-) |
| 17:49.55 | EricL | pharm: So I have to create an initrd for the new kernels that build? |
| 17:49.57 | cyzie | repp, mmm okay. |
| 17:50.08 | Teskupo | thanksss Vlat :D |
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| 17:50.19 | Vlat | you welcome :) |
| 17:50.22 | repp | cyzie: so if you do "ls -al" on the directory, the first item shows you the permissions on the directory |
| 17:50.23 | Teskupo | i going to try to do it xD |
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| 17:50.39 | cyzie | k |
| 17:50.41 | cyzie | let me try |
| 17:50.44 | a1fa | caphuso http://pastebin.com/499522 |
| 17:50.58 | repp | cyzie: and you can modify the ownership with "chown" and modify the permissions with "chmod" |
| 17:51.30 | pharm | EricL: If you install from a deb, it should get done for you. Otherwise, if the drivers needed to boot aren't linked into the kernel, they need to be in an initrd as modules... |
| 17:52.18 | a1fa | this is not working right |
| 17:52.19 | EricL | pharm: Hmmm, if they don't have a deb for a 2.6 kernel, then can you point me to a HOWTO on making an initrd properly? |
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| 17:53.13 | pharm | EricL: Not off the top of my head. Just running mkinitrd usually works. Where are you getting these kernels from? |
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| 17:53.25 | oz__ | "ata 0x1f0 IDE Port busy", anyone knows that? |
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| 17:53.50 | EricL | pharm: ftp.kernel.org |
| 17:54.11 | caphuso | a1fa: are you randomly trying stuff hoping that you eventually will find a working solution? |
| 17:54.11 | pharm | EricL: Try the Debian ones :) |
| 17:54.14 | zeballin3 | nuskool: the problem with korganizer's icon is not an X program (xinitrc). Thanks anyway. |
| 17:54.16 | EricL | pharm: I got the 2.6.15 from ftp.kernel.org and the other 2 I got from the Debian source. |
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| 17:55.06 | pharm | EricL: Try installing a precompiled deb kernel & see if that works. |
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| 17:55.48 | pharm | EricL: You shouldn't need to compile from source unless you want to customise the kernel in some way. The stock ones do the job for most people... |
| 17:55.48 | a1fa | caphuso : yeu[ |
| 17:55.55 | a1fa | caphuso : anyway to use my own up script |
| 17:55.59 | theacolyte | When installing postfix, I usually get a text based "graphical" configuration tool, which I'm not getting now. ANy ideas on how to get it back? |
| 17:56.02 | a1fa | caphuso : up really didnt work |
| 17:56.05 | Shadowcat | 66 |
| 17:56.09 | theacolyte | Has options to set up different pop2/pop3, etc |
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| 17:56.11 | jelly | !kernel-package |
| 17:56.11 | dpkg | To compile a kernel The Debian Way (tm) "apt-get install kernel-package" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz (use zless or lynx), or http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 17:56.11 | caphuso | a1fa: is "yeu[" some dumbass notation for "yes"? |
| 17:56.11 | EricL | pharm: It did, because I installed the updated deb kernel using apt-get. That's why I can't figure out what I am doing wrong. I have been building kernels for years and the only systems I can't them to work on is Sarge installs. |
| 17:56.11 | Shadowcat | bah |
| 17:56.16 | cisee | theacoylte: dpkg-reconfigure postfix perhaps ? |
| 17:56.31 | Silent_al | hi :) how can i know by command line , which app is using my soundcard? |
| 17:56.31 | a1fa | caphuso : whatttt? i cant believe it |
| 17:56.34 | EricL | pharm: I am building this kernel for a MythTV box. |
| 17:56.42 | theacolyte | cisee: thanks, I'm new to debian |
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| 17:57.02 | cahoot | Silent_al: fuser -v <device> is one way |
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| 17:58.01 | Silent_al | cahoot, thanx i'll rty |
| 17:58.06 | Silent_al | try |
| 17:58.43 | pharm | EricL: So the stock Debian binary kernel doesn't work either? You could grab a newer kernel deb from unstable and try that -- might be a driver issue. Then when you've got something that works, you can tweak the .CONFIG to your hearts content & compile it with kernel-package... |
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| 17:59.55 | m0se5 | what package is dig in? |
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| 18:00.06 | EricL | pharm: The stock debian binary kernel works, but its the only one that works. It doesn't work when I recompile it though to tweak it. Therefore it must be something to do with mkinitrd. |
| 18:00.28 | EricL | I'll try making that for the other kernels and seeing what happens. |
| 18:00.29 | rbisrael | I can't get debian to recognize my sound card. It's an SB Live! Series (WDM) from Dell |
| 18:00.33 | rossi | hi kennt sich hier einer mit vdr aus?? |
| 18:00.45 | a1fa | caphuso : thats not nice |
| 18:00.51 | pharm | m0se5: dnsutils |
| 18:01.16 | m0se5 | pharm thx |
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| 18:01.38 | cisee | pharm: use dlocate to find things like that |
| 18:02.08 | pharm | EricL: Sounds like it: Short answer -- compile the relevant drivers statically into the kernel. Slightly longer answer -- explicitly add those modules to the initrd via /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf |
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| 18:02.42 | EricL | pharm: Alright, lemme give it a try and see what I can come up. Thanks for the help. |
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| 18:03.46 | malex | ip forwarding on my router fails when upgraded from 2.6.13 to 2.6.14.2 or 2.6.15. Packets just stop at the router. Any ideas? |
| 18:04.04 | Vlat | gotta go, brb |
| 18:04.20 | cisee | malex: not compiled with ip fowarding enabled ? |
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| 18:09.04 | *** topic/#debian is PUBLIC KEY NOT AVAILABLE? /msg dpkg 2006 key | FAQ: http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ | /msg dpkg bts | /msg dpkg testing security | X.org: sid, etch and /msg dpkg xorg sarge | NO FLOOD: USE #flood or /msg dpkg paster | /msg bots NOT people | /msg dpkg java | /msg dpkg kde3.4 | /msg dpkg apt secure | Please note: this is not #ubuntu. |
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| 18:10.52 | eeyore- | malex: "same" doesn't mean "still works" |
| 18:11.45 | abrotman | feetloveR: are you ever going to talk? |
| 18:11.50 | eeyore- | malex: cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 18:12.07 | Azar | :) |
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| 18:12.21 | bypossyble | oi tudo bem |
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| 18:12.44 | _max_ | anyone have experience with mdadm running raid5 ? got a raid with 10 drives, although i need to change one of the controller cards for a larger one, that will almost certainly result in the devices returning with different device letters. |
| 18:12.57 | malex | wart: eeyore- cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward = 1 |
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| 18:12.59 | _max_ | will mdadm fix that automaticly or will i need to change that around? |
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| 18:13.15 | cisee | _max_: you'll probablyt have to edit /etc/mdadm.conf |
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| 18:13.25 | _max_ | thanx |
| 18:13.43 | cisee | you can always do mdadm --scan --detail to figure out what happened |
| 18:14.13 | gozz | is there a app kinda like powerdvdxp that will play dvd files from hdd? |
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| 18:14.47 | _max_ | if i change controller card and boot, then change back, does it label raid as broken or does it go back to being "complete" once it finds all drives in correct places again? |
| 18:14.55 | _max_ | 2tb data =/ dont wanna risk loosing it :) |
| 18:14.56 | eeyore- | malex: in that case your firewall probably blocks the outbound packets |
| 18:15.13 | eeyore- | malex: s/firewall/firewall rules/ |
| 18:15.13 | tr1gg3r | gozz, mplayer or xine can play dvd files from hd |
| 18:15.47 | cisee | _max_: it should revert fine if you swap back to old card |
| 18:16.04 | cisee | _max_: mdadm is pretty flexible, i've moved drives to diff controllers before w/o issue |
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| 18:16.07 | DarthPat | gozz, vlc? |
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| 18:19.06 | csalad | hello all |
| 18:19.11 | csalad | q: |
| 18:19.20 | Silent_al | hi |
| 18:19.21 | Silent_al | :) |
| 18:19.23 | csalad | how can i change the language? |
| 18:19.31 | csalad | from en. to hun |
| 18:19.43 | gozz | thanks |
| 18:20.16 | csalad | dpkg-reconfigure locales....? |
| 18:20.33 | Silent_al | did u try it? |
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| 18:20.46 | csalad | silent: yes |
| 18:20.56 | csalad | i choose hu * |
| 18:21.00 | csalad | all done.... |
| 18:21.02 | malex | eeyore-: It does seem that iptables rules are to blame. |
| 18:21.03 | Silent_al | set as defualt |
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| 18:21.05 | csalad | but the... |
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| 18:21.08 | Silent_al | default |
| 18:21.15 | csalad | environment is engish!!! |
| 18:21.27 | csalad | where? |
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| 18:21.57 | csalad | silent: where set as default? |
| 18:21.59 | Silent_al | when u reconfigure localeas |
| 18:22.02 | eeyore- | malex: there's been some changes in terms of what's considered "forward". i *believe* (could be very wrong) the packets go into different chain now, to be considered forwarded |
| 18:22.06 | Silent_al | locales |
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| 18:22.32 | csalad | that i haven't |
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| 18:22.34 | Silent_al | it asks u what lang u wana set as default |
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| 18:22.51 | csalad | it wasn't choose |
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| 18:23.03 | csalad | plz wait.... |
| 18:23.38 | csalad | "Which locale should be the default in the system environment? ? |
| 18:23.52 | csalad | i choose the hu_hu |
| 18:24.19 | csalad | or i shoud hu_hu_utf8? |
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| 18:24.48 | abrotman | that's up to you |
| 18:24.54 | csalad | ? |
| 18:25.13 | csalad | i? |
| 18:25.34 | Silent_al | yup, he asked u |
| 18:25.51 | csalad | yes |
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| 18:26.07 | csalad | the answer is: 1.:none |
| 18:26.11 | csalad | 2: hu_hu |
| 18:26.18 | csalad | 3: hu_hu_utf8 |
| 18:26.37 | csalad | thats all |
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| 18:27.25 | Silent_al | hummm.... |
| 18:27.25 | meriad | how do I extrac the information from an SSL certificate with OpenSSL? |
| 18:27.46 | csalad | my kde why isn't hun?? |
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| 18:28.46 | eeyore- | meriad: mod_ssl howto has step-by-step instructions |
| 18:28.57 | meriad | i meant from Command Line |
| 18:28.59 | meriad | but thanks =] |
| 18:29.02 | csalad | so by |
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| 18:29.36 | cisee | meriad: depends on the type of cert |
| 18:29.44 | cisee | openssl x509 -in cert.pem |
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| 18:30.01 | abrotman | what is this macworld lilo speaks of? |
| 18:30.32 | abrotman | wtf language is that ? |
| 18:30.40 | jbroome | viking? |
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| 18:31.23 | malex | eeyore-: There could be a bug in "shorewall" iptables firewall I've been using I guess. |
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| 18:31.37 | abrotman | fcn: wrong channel |
| 18:32.13 | norton | are debian linux using utmp or utmpx for storing records? I know the files have the name utmp, but i thought maybe they can be stored in utmpx format |
| 18:32.37 | _max_ | hmm... iv taken a raid of 8 drives from PC-A , into PC-B , although shouldn't ' mdadm -Q /dev/sdb ' return information of the raid that it was acting as in PC-A ? |
| 18:32.38 | fcn | abrotman, sorry |
| 18:32.41 | eeyore- | malex: if you use debian, you could very well be looking at issues where the "base" shorewall scripts and the config files don't match |
| 18:33.07 | eeyore- | malex: debian doesn't update your /etc/shorewall/* scripts, so if they don't match the shorewall application scripts that you have updated, well, bad things happen :-) |
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| 18:33.21 | cisee | _max_: why shouldn't it ? |
| 18:33.29 | cisee | _max_: you just moved the drives, that shouldn't affect the array |
| 18:33.32 | _max_ | well.. its returning nothing.. thats why im asking. |
| 18:33.50 | _max_ | im not moving it from a controller... im moving this raid from one pc to another. |
| 18:33.56 | cisee | hrm |
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| 18:34.08 | _max_ | so now im trying to get the raid active on the new server :) |
| 18:34.17 | teknoprep | anyone know of a KDE PPTP VPN dialer .. gui based of course? |
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| 18:34.22 | cisee | i think yo have to query the partition not the drive itself |
| 18:34.22 | _max_ | however none of the -Q E etc flags pull up any info. |
| 18:34.28 | cisee | mdadm -Q /dev/hdb1 |
| 18:34.36 | _max_ | ahh.. |
| 18:34.50 | _max_ | cisee : correct you where :) |
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| 18:35.18 | cisee | eh i did the same thing once |
| 18:35.20 | cisee | pissed me off |
| 18:35.33 | malex | eeyore-: I've tried upgrading to shorewall 3.0 and starting fresh from the new config files in /usr/share/doc/shorewall/default-config/, which didn't work. I was pressed to bring the gateway up (at work), so I rolled back to shorewall 2.6.4 and kernel 2.6.13, which worked. I guess I just have to dedicate a big chunk of time to figure out what changed and where the bug is. |
| 18:35.33 | iturk | everytime that i compile device driver (created by me) i have to change is name otherwise the copiler doesnt see the changes !! how can i clean this cache from the compiler that seems to exists ??? |
| 18:36.58 | anapivirtua | lo all |
| 18:38.21 | eeyore- | malex: hmm. let me check my setup |
| 18:38.38 | _max_ | cisee : if im reading this man file correctly (wich is actually one of the best man files iv stumbled upon sofar) i could do ' mdadm --assemble /dev/sda1 ' and it will read the raid superblock contained in it and figure out where the other raid drives are located ? |
| 18:38.51 | eeyore- | malex: shorewall 3.0.3, but running 2.6.11-ck :-) |
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| 18:39.24 | malex | eeyore-: There were iptables changes in the kernel in 2.6.14 AFAIK. |
| 18:39.43 | malex | eeyore-: Even some bad bug that they fixed in .14.1 or .2. |
| 18:40.39 | cisee | _max_: yeah |
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| 18:40.44 | cisee | and then you can do like |
| 18:40.45 | _max_ | awsome.. |
| 18:40.54 | cisee | mdadm --detail --scan > /etc/mdadm.conf |
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| 18:41.10 | _max_ | after its assembled ? |
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| 18:43.07 | cisee | _max_: yep |
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| 18:43.19 | pusling | quick ping ? |
| 18:43.21 | _max_ | hmm.. its not liking this.. |
| 18:43.41 | _max_ | cisee may i pm you? |
| 18:44.18 | klync | hey all... the apt howto mentions an app "apt-show-versions", which is not on my system... is it part of some pkg or depricated? how can i find out what pkgs from 'unstable' are installed on a system? |
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| 18:44.53 | Silent_al | how can i remove a complete directory? |
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| 18:45.02 | Silent_al | rm -d doesnt work |
| 18:45.02 | cisee | max sure |
| 18:45.05 | _max_ | rm -rf dir |
| 18:45.12 | Silent_al | thanx |
| 18:45.37 | cisee | _max_: mdadm -D -s >> /etc/mdadm.conf sorry |
| 18:45.42 | _max_ | heh... freenode doesn't support pm? |
| 18:45.43 | cisee | klync: apt-get install apt-show-versions |
| 18:45.48 | cisee | not if you're not registered |
| 18:45.57 | _max_ | efnet? linknet? |
| 18:46.06 | klync | cisee: hehe thx |
| 18:46.12 | cisee | =P |
| 18:46.22 | cisee | synaptic is also excellent for seeing what's installed from what |
| 18:46.57 | cheal | synaptic doesn't replace apt-show-versions |
| 18:47.17 | cisee | did i imply it did =P |
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| 18:48.36 | trym | k3b in unstable? |
| 18:48.38 | Ungy | damn anyone know how I can set it so I don;t have to run alsoconf everytime I start my computer? |
| 18:49.04 | teknoprep | anyone know of a KDE PPTP VPN dialer .. gui based of course? |
| 18:49.09 | _max_ | mdadm -Q /dev/sda1 tells me : /dev/sda1: device 0 in 8 device undetected raid5 md0. Use mdadm --examine for more detail. |
| 18:49.14 | stew | Ungy: put the module for your soundcard and snd-pcm-oss into /etc/modules |
| 18:49.25 | _max_ | mdadm -A /dev/sda1 tells me : mdadm: /dev/sda1 does not appear to be an md device |
| 18:49.34 | jarango | How do I allow a user that did not start the current X session to launch an X app on my display ? |
| 18:49.35 | _max_ | same with /dev/sda |
| 18:49.41 | _gass_ | caphuso: i don't know if you remember me ... i want apt with tls |
| 18:50.04 | cahoot | jarango: look at sux |
| 18:50.09 | _gass_ | caphuso: i have an application of mine, that are in perl scripts, anda i want to prevent them to be copied |
| 18:50.20 | stew | jarango: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie ; alsa /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 18:50.22 | _gass_ | in the local network, or my a proxy |
| 18:50.32 | Ungy | stew for an i810-audio woudl that be my soundcard madule? |
| 18:51.12 | stew | Ungy: run alsaconf, then lsmod, look for somehting like snd-intel8x0 or something |
| 18:51.58 | jarango | cahoot: I used to be able to do a long time ago without sux. Has something changed in X ? I am using KDE |
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| 18:53.22 | stew | jarango: nothing has changed, read those two factoids |
| 18:53.23 | Ungy | stew that is it exactly thanks |
| 18:54.22 | EleckttrusS | jarango, you udes kde 3.5? |
| 18:54.42 | teknoprep | if i install the kernel-patch-mppe from apt-get do i have to reboot? |
| 18:55.11 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, yes! |
| 18:55.15 | teknoprep | ahh |
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| 18:55.20 | teknoprep | could be the problem |
| 18:55.28 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, ...?? |
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| 18:55.31 | teknoprep | lol |
| 18:55.37 | teknoprep | tyring to create a vpn tunnel is all |
| 18:55.44 | teknoprep | needed mppe kernel patch |
| 18:56.08 | Ungy | wow pretty just dist-upgraded on sid Gnome is pretty again |
| 18:56.16 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, reboot 12:00am |
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| 18:57.12 | Ungy | thansk for the help stew hopefully it works take care |
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| 18:57.33 | teknoprep | EleckttrusS, no no its fine i can reboot now |
| 18:58.08 | EricL | pharm: If you're still around, I moved forward, but got from one kernel panic to another. Thanks though. |
| 18:58.22 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, good! |
| 18:58.35 | teknoprep | lol |
| 18:58.45 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, you live in USA=? |
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| 18:59.19 | teknoprep | hmm |
| 18:59.23 | teknoprep | odd problem i am having |
| 18:59.31 | teknoprep | i apt-get uprgade |
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| 18:59.35 | teknoprep | and now i have to start kde as root |
| 18:59.35 | EleckttrusS | jejeje ok |
| 18:59.41 | teknoprep | log off.. then log back on as a user |
| 18:59.47 | pipeline | teknoprep: Be more specific. What happens when you try it as a user? |
| 18:59.52 | EleckttrusS | teknoprep, ok! |
| 18:59.59 | teknoprep | it just goes back to the KDM login |
| 19:00.13 | teknoprep | thats some weird crap lol |
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| 19:00.31 | teknoprep | i am going to run kpersonlizer see if that fixes it |
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| 19:00.59 | joeyy | how do i have port 80 5234 and 6667 open on my box and all others blocked using iptables |
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| 19:01.41 | stefan_ | I have a question. I have a user that I would like to "jail" to a specific directory (the users /home/user) I only want the user to be able to see that directory..?? |
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| 19:02.34 | delire | joeyy: make it easy for your self and install 'shorewall'. setup basic policies and then define port access rules in your /etc/shorewall/rules file. follow shorewall.net's 'one interface howto' and you'll be good to go. |
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| 19:03.02 | foo_ | hey debian has mod_deflate for apache? |
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| 19:03.10 | foo_ | apt-cache search didnt return any results for it |
| 19:03.14 | luncai | how to install network printer...the printer is on windows machine... |
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| 19:03.44 | klync | foo_: i think it comes built in.... i've got one in my /usr/lib/apache2/modules |
| 19:03.56 | XTL | foo_: apache2-common at least seems to have it |
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| 19:04.04 | stew | foo_: /msg dpkg apt-file ; apt-file search mod_deflate.so |
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| 19:05.33 | jjazz | luncai: google linux windows printer sharing |
| 19:05.36 | stefan_ | I have a question. I have a user that I would like to "jail" to a specific directory (the users /home/user) I only want the user to be able to see that directory..?? |
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| 19:05.50 | foo_ | i use apache not apache2 |
| 19:06.22 | klync | stefan_: i think you want the app "jailer", tho i've never used it |
| 19:06.39 | foo_ | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 19:06.39 | foo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:06.39 | foo_ | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 19:06.44 | foo_ | i get this when trying to install apache2 |
| 19:07.00 | stefan_ | klync, can't i do it with chroot or something like that? |
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| 19:07.14 | klync | stefan_: hard part is, with chroot, the user will need to be able to access apps and libs such as ls, cp, and bash |
| 19:07.39 | klync | stefan_: jailer helps you maintain an environment for chroot and include local versions of those apps for the user |
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| 19:07.55 | stefan_ | klync, ok.. can i delete the user.. lite rmuser or something? |
| 19:08.04 | delire | stefan_: deluser |
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| 19:08.21 | stefan_ | delire, thanks! |
| 19:08.30 | foo_ | any idea how to install mod_deflate on apache 1.x ? |
| 19:08.41 | foo_ | apache2 doesnt come with a configuration file? |
| 19:08.55 | delire | klync: didn't know about 'jailer', cheers. |
| 19:09.05 | teknoprep | MPPE required, but kernel has no support. |
| 19:09.13 | klync | delire: i've never used it, just seen it listed in dselect and thought it sounded handy |
| 19:09.16 | teknoprep | i just installed the MPPE kernel patch ? from apt-get |
| 19:09.24 | teknoprep | and rebooted |
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| 19:09.59 | stew | foo_: apache does come with a config file, /msg dpkg confmiss |
| 19:11.11 | foo_ | stew syntax error i get with the default configuration file |
| 19:11.16 | foo_ | of apache 2.x that is |
| 19:11.18 | foo_ | 1.x is fine |
| 19:11.32 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:11.51 | stew | foo_: fix it. if you want us to help you have to actually show us the error |
| 19:11.59 | Vlat | Azar: nope |
| 19:12.02 | foo_ | its the default conf file stew |
| 19:12.08 | Azar | ok thanks Vlat |
| 19:12.13 | delire | Azar: make it a cronjob if you need it. |
| 19:12.15 | foo_ | Syntax error on line 116 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: |
| 19:12.17 | foo_ | Exceeded maximum include depth of 128. You have probably a recursion somewhere |
| 19:12.20 | foo_ | thats the error |
| 19:12.24 | Vlat | Azar: take a look at cron |
| 19:12.34 | stew | foo_: can you show us what is in the vicinity of line 116? |
| 19:12.40 | Azar | Vlat, how can I check cron? |
| 19:12.52 | stew | foo_: use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 19:12.59 | Vlat | Azar: cat /etc/crontab |
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| 19:13.08 | foo_ | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load |
| 19:13.13 | foo_ | thats the line stew |
| 19:13.16 | Vlat | Azar: and crontab -e for user-wide crontab |
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| 19:13.21 | xored | !xored usb-storag |
| 19:13.22 | xored | !xored usb-storage |
| 19:13.27 | stew | foo_: what version of debian is this? |
| 19:13.28 | xored | !tell xored usb-storage |
| 19:13.32 | xored | !tell xored about usb-storage |
| 19:13.47 | foo_ | stew |
| 19:13.47 | foo_ | Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 \n \l |
| 19:14.04 | delire | Vlat: see /etc/cron.daily for a hint as to how it's done. these are 'jobs' run each day. many you will recognise. |
| 19:14.15 | delire | Vlat: sorry, meant for Azar |
| 19:14.21 | Vlat | no prob :-) |
| 19:14.31 | foo_ | stew apache2 came with apache2.conf i had to cp it to httpd.conf |
| 19:14.31 | Stranger | Somebody could suggest the most simple way to establish a vpn server on a bebian box gating a home network? (I'm looking for a suggestion for the server to use) |
| 19:15.27 | abrotman | openvpn ? |
| 19:15.28 | Berge | Stranger: OpenVPN is probably your friend. A bit cumbersome to set up, but the HOWTO's are great and easy to follow. Works like a charm when set up. |
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| 19:15.38 | pipeline | Stranger: I'm going to tell you right now, there's no simple way. Period. They're all incredibly complicated :P |
| 19:15.55 | pipeline | delire: heh, isn't there really a subproject "debian jr" that's kid-focussed or something? |
| 19:15.58 | Stranger | ha ha, seriously? ;p |
| 19:16.11 | delire | ;) |
| 19:16.18 | delire | pipeline: apparently yes |
| 19:16.40 | Azar | thanks delire, I can see those are executables.. |
| 19:16.49 | jelly | Stranger: I had moderately few problems with setting up pptpd. Had to only patch the kernel and pppd. ;-) |
| 19:17.04 | delire | Azar, executable scripts, yes |
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| 19:17.24 | Nirgal | Stranger: Maybe redirecting a few ports with ssh would be enough? |
| 19:17.26 | Vlat | great! |
| 19:17.30 | Azar | delire I still have to learn to locate logs |
| 19:17.31 | jelly | Stranger: I wanted something that could be easily use with Windows clients, though. |
| 19:17.41 | Stranger | ohh, patching the kernel? arg. no daemon that will do the work with just a bunch of config? |
| 19:17.56 | delire | Azar: most logging in debian is written to /var/log/* |
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| 19:18.12 | Berge | Stranger: Of course, you could use poor man's VPN - PPP over SSH (-: |
| 19:18.12 | Azar | thanks, delire :) |
| 19:18.13 | Stranger | Nirgal: the idea is to access my homenetwork while using my laptop on the road |
| 19:18.19 | delire | Azar: no problem |
| 19:18.21 | Berge | Works as well, but bit of a hack. |
| 19:18.36 | Stranger | Berge: ouch |
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| 19:18.48 | Silent_al | my home dir is gone , :( is there a way to recover it without reinstalling debian? |
| 19:18.58 | Silent_al | mead- deleted |
| 19:19.01 | Silent_al | means* |
| 19:19.19 | stew | foo_: apache2 comes with both apache2.conf and httpd.conf, you shouldn't have copied one to th other |
| 19:19.52 | delire | Azar: FYI the logs you will probably need to use most are dmesg (also available as a command) and syslog. |
| 19:20.00 | teknoprep | wtf |
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| 19:20.06 | Stranger | ok, tanks anyways :) |
| 19:20.15 | jantje38 | can somebopdy help me please |
| 19:20.17 | teknoprep | for Kernel MPPE support.. i should only need to install... kernel-patch-mppe ? is this correct? |
| 19:20.19 | Azar | :) delire thanks I was steering at it thinking how to check |
| 19:20.21 | jantje38 | my xserver dont start |
| 19:20.36 | teknoprep | whats the error jantje38 ? |
| 19:21.11 | delire | Azar: a good trick is to 'tail' logs. 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' as root is a good thing to get into the habit of when performing system wide debugging. |
| 19:21.14 | jantje38 | failed to initialize core devicesd |
| 19:21.28 | jelly | Is there a way to do --print-uris with aptitude? |
| 19:21.37 | Vlat | jantje38: is you mouse usb or ps2 ? |
| 19:22.13 | jantje38 | Vlat: ps2 |
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| 19:22.42 | Vlat | jantje38: modprobe mousedev modprobe psmouse |
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| 19:22.45 | teknoprep | wtf |
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| 19:23.05 | teknoprep | anyone have the problem with KDE where they first have to log in as ROOT ? then log out.. then log back in? |
| 19:23.23 | pipeline | teknoprep: I asked you to be more specific and you refused :| |
| 19:23.25 | jelly | I want to download the upgraded debs while I'm at work and transfer them on the usb disk. With apt-get, I can do apt-get --print-uris upgrade and feed the list to eg. wget or something. |
| 19:23.30 | thetallcoolone | guys, can you recommend a simple and easy to configure FTP server? |
| 19:23.36 | teknoprep | pipeline, i thought that was specific enough? |
| 19:23.37 | pipeline | jelly: apt-get -d ? |
| 19:23.39 | delire | teknoprep: i don't know KDE very well but perhaps there is a lockfile or similar that needs to be cleared. |
| 19:23.51 | pipeline | teknoprep: It's not. Surely it gives you an error when you run startkde or kde-session or whatever the thing is called. |
| 19:24.01 | teknoprep | i use KDM |
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| 19:24.12 | jelly | pipeline: ... I don't want to download them to the same machine, and I want to use aptitude. |
| 19:24.17 | delire | teknoprep: perhaps there's a KDM or ksession logfile you should read. |
| 19:24.22 | beardy | teknoprep: What happens when you log in as a user then? |
| 19:24.24 | pipeline | teknoprep: Well, start an X server with the -ac flag, set your DISPLAY variable in a shell, and try starting KDE manually. |
| 19:24.28 | teknoprep | i start up in KDM... from bootup... log in as chris... it starts going.. gets to initiallizing periphials.. black screens and goes back to KDM |
| 19:24.53 | teknoprep | so... what i do... i log in as root... log out as root.. log in as chris... log in works fine then |
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| 19:25.00 | jantje38 | Vlat: thanks, should i restart because i get a gray screen thats all |
| 19:25.05 | beardy | teknoprep: Have you changed anything at all since installing kde/kdm? |
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| 19:25.13 | teknoprep | apt-get upgrade |
| 19:25.14 | joeyy | i want to have port 80 5234 and 6667 open on my box and all others blocked how do i do this with iptables |
| 19:25.16 | teknoprep | thats all i have done |
| 19:25.21 | delire | teknoprep maybe try deleting ~.Xauthority |
| 19:25.28 | delire | a complete guess. |
| 19:25.34 | Vlat | jantje38: it's becouse no window manager is installed. you should install one. personally i prefer xfce |
| 19:25.41 | Vlat | jantje38: apt-get install xfce4 |
| 19:25.43 | delire | teknoprep ~/.Xauthority i meant to say |
| 19:25.53 | teknoprep | yes i knew what you meant |
| 19:25.57 | beardy | teknoprep: And what do you run, stable, testing, unstable? |
| 19:25.59 | stew | teknoprep: check .xsession-errors |
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| 19:26.18 | Vlat | jantje38: also you should edit /etc/modules (under root) and insert mousedev and psmouse strings here (just to not load mouse modules every time) |
| 19:26.21 | teknoprep | stable with KDE 3.4 |
| 19:26.27 | Ronin` | damn it |
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| 19:26.36 | jantje38 | thanks guy's your the best :) |
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| 19:26.49 | teknoprep | back to blackbox |
| 19:26.52 | teknoprep | screw kde lol |
| 19:27.21 | delire | teknoprep: why not ask in #kde? |
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| 19:27.34 | Azoff | hello |
| 19:27.37 | teknoprep | becuase it arived because of apt-get upgrade |
| 19:27.41 | D3vIN | Cingular shut off my phone =0( |
| 19:27.56 | beardy | teknoprep: Was something upgraded then? |
| 19:28.01 | teknoprep | everything was |
| 19:28.10 | jantje38 | thanks |
| 19:28.16 | beardy | teknoprep: What were you running before the upgrade? |
| 19:28.23 | Azoff | I am about to setup a local debian repo. When I run dpkg-scanpackages I get this line, is it anything to worry about? |
| 19:28.26 | Azoff | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.26 | dpkg | Azoff: what are you talking about? |
| 19:28.28 | teknoprep | the 180meg net install |
| 19:28.31 | delire | teknoprep: i would follow stew's advice. check .xsession-errors |
| 19:28.31 | teknoprep | i always boot off of that |
| 19:28.36 | teknoprep | one sec so i can look at its name |
| 19:28.38 | teknoprep | i am pretty sure its sarg |
| 19:28.53 | beardy | teknoprep: How come everything upgraded? |
| 19:28.58 | delire | hehe |
| 19:29.01 | Silent_al | !! i want your babies! |
| 19:29.02 | teknoprep | apt-get upgrade ? |
| 19:29.05 | teknoprep | upgrades no? |
| 19:29.15 | teknoprep | Official netinst images for the "stable" release |
| 19:29.18 | beardy | teknoprep: What were you attempting to upgrade to? |
| 19:29.20 | teknoprep | \thats what i use from debian.org |
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| 19:29.36 | MarGarina | ain't this '/msg dpkg kde3.4' in topic deprecated? |
| 19:29.43 | Azar | how could I stop filling up my auth.log with futile bruteforce silly messages? |
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| 19:30.01 | beardy | teknoprep: run 'cat /etc/debian_version' and paste what it says here. |
| 19:30.04 | teknoprep | apt-get upgrade <--- that is what i typed in |
| 19:30.14 | sumar | 3.1 |
| 19:30.16 | beardy | !debian mantra |
| 19:30.17 | dpkg | well, debian mantra is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude update && aptitude upgrade" |
| 19:30.31 | MarGarina | Azar: Find out where they come from or use logrotate more intensively? |
| 19:30.34 | teknoprep | hmm testing/unstable ? |
| 19:30.38 | teknoprep | thats fubar |
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| 19:30.46 | beardy | teknoprep: You should update the packagelist first, but don't do that now. |
| 19:30.51 | Azar | MarGarina: , usless to pin a zombie.. |
| 19:30.59 | beardy | teknoprep: Why did you change your sources.list? |
| 19:30.59 | teknoprep | yes i always do an apt-get update |
| 19:31.02 | stew | beardy: he's running unofficial packages |
| 19:31.21 | teknoprep | beardy because it was told to me to do so.. i only run this stuff as servers mostly.. just getting into a linux desktop |
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| 19:31.30 | teknoprep | its a different ball-game when you run a desktop os with linux |
| 19:31.38 | beardy | teknoprep: No. |
| 19:31.42 | teknoprep | yes it is |
| 19:31.50 | itom | hi all, in a pc when I use "lspci" display only "00:00.0 Class 0600: 1106:3189 (rev 80); I've try 'update-pciids' but nothing. Any ideas? |
| 19:32.07 | teknoprep | been running unix/linux servers for years... X is pretty well crappy |
| 19:32.55 | beardy | teknoprep: X's crapiness has nothing to do with you messing up your system. |
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| 19:33.06 | teknoprep | it was crappy before i started |
| 19:33.13 | teknoprep | with kanotix it was bad |
| 19:33.16 | teknoprep | ubuntu bad |
| 19:33.17 | beardy | teknoprep: As I said above. |
| 19:33.19 | teknoprep | didn't mess with it |
| 19:33.20 | teknoprep | just installed |
| 19:33.34 | teknoprep | if i install a system.. do nothing but run it.. its my fault that its bad |
| 19:33.35 | teknoprep | lol |
| 19:33.40 | beardy | teknoprep: So what are you running now? |
| 19:33.49 | teknoprep | apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:34.05 | beardy | teknoprep: No, kanotix, ubuntu, what? |
| 19:34.09 | stew | teknoprep: you did more than just ran it, you installed unofficial, unsupported kde packages onto stable, which was the bad part |
| 19:34.15 | teknoprep | oh i went back to debian netinstall |
| 19:34.24 | teknoprep | i think i may stick with FreeBSD |
| 19:34.31 | delire | teknoprep: millios of people run linux desktops. i think you've installed packages which have broken your machine or otherwise munged it in the process. |
| 19:34.34 | teknoprep | i compiled everything from source with less problems then this |
| 19:34.37 | delire | s/millios/millions |
| 19:34.44 | teknoprep | yes i understand this |
| 19:34.52 | stew | teknoprep: i wouls suggest that if you want a kde that is better behaved, you either reinstall stable and stick with that or upgrade to the supported kde in testing |
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| 19:35.08 | delire | teknoprep: follow the path well trodden and you shall not expect malaise and grimness. |
| 19:35.09 | beardy | teknoprep: WHen you run stable, run the things that are in stable. If you run random packages from wherever, don't blame anyone else if it breaks, and it will sooner or later. |
| 19:35.29 | teknoprep | hmm |
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| 19:36.43 | sh | hello everyone ive got a question about postfix |
| 19:36.45 | delire | teknoprep: i am one of those idiots that runs a testing/unstable system, and every six months or so i corner myself with a cyclical dependency, or other munging. i've been doing for a long time now and it is a lifestyle choice. |
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| 19:37.05 | kementeus | hello... somebody know how could I avoid the trouble of a gpg empty file in a repo? |
| 19:37.17 | delire | teknoprep: since Debian Potato in fact.. |
| 19:37.19 | teknoprep | well i always run debain/solaris on my servers |
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| 19:37.24 | sh | ive changed my postfix(SMTp) Pport to 24 |
| 19:37.25 | teknoprep | so i know what you mean about stable |
| 19:37.30 | teknoprep | i just don't run X ever |
| 19:38.00 | teknoprep | unless its for blackbox just for something to have when i want a bunch of windows open |
| 19:38.00 | teknoprep | ok here is another question |
| 19:38.01 | teknoprep | pppd[5825]: MPPE required, but kernel has no support. |
| 19:38.01 | r0tu | I have a problem with my VXA-2 Packet Tape Drive, connected to a scsi that works... not sure how tell where in /dev it's installed... any suggestions? |
| 19:38.05 | joeyy | would my box be firewalled if i just open ports to my box on my router ? and take the box out of dmz |
| 19:38.09 | teknoprep | i have done... apt-get install kernel-patch-mppe |
| 19:38.09 | sh | so if anyone send me mail from outside how to they know to connect to PORT 24? |
| 19:38.12 | Lee__ | if I only need to change some compile options for a package, is it good enough to edit debian/rules and run 'fakeroot debian/rules binary' |
| 19:38.23 | teknoprep | joey ? |
| 19:38.28 | Vlat | delire: same here. by the way, how do you solve broken depends? editing the package file by hand ? |
| 19:38.37 | joeyy | i dont understand iptables |
| 19:38.37 | abrotman | depends aren't broken |
| 19:38.41 | teknoprep | joeyy i would not depend on a home router as a firewall? |
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| 19:38.45 | teknoprep | iptables is easy |
| 19:38.49 | abrotman | go to #iptables .. lartc.org .. netfilter.org |
| 19:38.51 | kementeus | anybody knows? when I try to do apt-get update I got a message about a trouble with the gpg file, when I check the repository I found that Release.gpg is an empty file |
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| 19:38.54 | beardy | teknoprep: If you don't care about X, why would you want to run a KDE that's not in stable? |
| 19:38.58 | abrotman | kementeus: read the topic |
| 19:39.00 | kementeus | anybody knows a workaround for this? |
| 19:39.00 | joeyy | i want to have port 80 5234 and 6667 open on my box and all others blocked how do i do this with iptables |
| 19:39.04 | teknoprep | beardy, learning |
| 19:39.12 | teknoprep | beardy, its my own personal system |
| 19:39.13 | abrotman | kementeus: and if your mirror is messed up .. get another |
| 19:39.16 | sm-afk | hi all.. how does laptop-mode or whatever it is change the screen brightness when you plug in ac ? I can't find it |
| 19:39.19 | teknoprep | beardy, for amusement puposes only |
| 19:39.26 | kementeus | abrotman, all the mirrors are in the same state |
| 19:39.31 | delire | joeyy: do all this with shorewall. it will save you time and has excellent monitor, status utils. |
| 19:39.34 | abrotman | kementeus: oddly .. no :) |
| 19:39.38 | kementeus | so, i guess there is not such workaround for a gpg failed |
| 19:39.45 | joeyy | i dont have x install |
| 19:39.46 | teknoprep | I STILL HAVE NO ANSER... lol.. everyone want to argue with me about KDE but not talk about... pppd[5825]: MPPE required, but kernel has no support. |
| 19:39.47 | jjazz | joeyy: man iptables |
| 19:39.48 | abrotman | or ignore me ... |
| 19:39.49 | teknoprep | wtf |
| 19:39.57 | beardy | teknoprep: Allright, I hope you do. This days lesson was; run stable, and run the things in it, don't install packages that are not in stable. |
| 19:40.01 | delire | joeyy: don't need X for shorewall. |
| 19:40.04 | abrotman | teknoprep: did you compile your own kernel ? |
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| 19:40.09 | kementeus | teknoprep, easy... just enable support for mpp in the kernel |
| 19:40.22 | Azar | teknoprep: you could stick with learning Debian fundamentals first then experiment with KDE |
| 19:40.23 | teknoprep | abrotman, no i hate compiling debian kernel's.. "The Debian Way" |
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| 19:40.37 | abrotman | teknoprep: uname -a .. show me |
| 19:40.37 | teknoprep | Debian fundamentals? |
| 19:40.59 | kementeus | teknoprep, it is funny, you just care about security and stability and you talk about kde and X and to compile your own kernel |
| 19:41.01 | sh | my mx entries are mx1.domain .com and mx2.domain.com so i recive mail on port 24 |
| 19:41.02 | versuchsanstalt | is there a better channel to ask about debian cups configuration and driver issues? please advise |
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| 19:41.03 | beardy | teknoprep: If you hate it, why run it? Is there something you like? |
| 19:41.04 | kementeus | that is really funny |
| 19:41.05 | teknoprep | 2.6.8-2 |
| 19:41.06 | Azar | teknoprep: if you do not want to use "the debian way" you might change your mind about using Debian altogether |
| 19:41.12 | r0tu | HGow do I test my tape drive / know where it's installed? |
| 19:41.12 | abrotman | teknoprep: uname -a |
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| 19:41.48 | gar | Hi. |
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| 19:42.06 | teknoprep | i am asking why doesn't this work for me... ? apt- get install kernel-patch-mppe ? |
| 19:42.06 | abrotman | r0tu: check dmesg .. usually says |
| 19:42.06 | teknoprep | i install it |
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| 19:42.07 | sh | anyone wana help me? |
| 19:42.07 | teknoprep | and it installs |
| 19:42.08 | abrotman | teknoprep: uname -a .. can you show me? |
| 19:42.08 | teknoprep | 2.6.8-2 |
| 19:42.12 | beardy | !tell sh -about ask |
| 19:42.12 | teknoprep | i don't want to type it all out |
| 19:42.24 | beardy | !be CLI barbie |
| 19:42.24 | dpkg | Tpying is HARD! |
| 19:42.32 | teknoprep | i am connected through a VMware VPN session to a Thin Client where this thing is located at work |
| 19:42.39 | abrotman | fucking moron ... that is not uname -a .. and if you can't figure out how to paste .. you're going to have lots of issues |
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| 19:42.42 | teknoprep | no copy and paste from Guest to Host |
| 19:42.55 | abrotman | *plonk* |
| 19:43.01 | Azar | :D amazing |
| 19:43.01 | kementeus | and he is talking about stability... :P |
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| 19:43.15 | stefan_ | go easy on the guy... |
| 19:43.15 | teknoprep | you guys are fools.. VMware ESX is stable |
| 19:43.24 | beardy | haha.. |
| 19:43.27 | beardy | *plonk* |
| 19:43.31 | Ronin | heh fun to watch |
| 19:43.36 | teknoprep | heh yeah i have just lost IQ talking to you guys |
| 19:43.47 | abrotman | vmware .. vpn .. thin client .. kde .. why not run XP in bochs on the same machine? |
| 19:43.50 | teknoprep | virtualization is the future of server computing |
| 19:43.52 | teknoprep | get used to it |
| 19:43.54 | delire | Vlat: broken depends? i have several approaches. the most brutal of which, at times, has been to use dpkg --force-* options. first though i try aptitude, if that fails, take a pencil and paper and uninstall/reinstall packages. if all that fails i roll back to prior versions and/or use pinning. |
| 19:44.00 | teknoprep | i am on XP |
| 19:44.07 | abrotman | so .. stupid |
| 19:44.15 | delire | Vlat: this is rare really. |
| 19:44.15 | Azar | this guy thinks he knows best yet he is coming here with questions |
| 19:44.24 | kementeus | well, I guess I should stay looking for a "good" mirror for pgadmin3 |
| 19:44.28 | teknoprep | i VPN to a VPN server.. Connect RDP to a Thin Client.. then from there i can access what i want on the network |
| 19:44.41 | kementeus | well, so, I can't import a repo with a gpg broken??? |
| 19:44.43 | Garp | Question: I'm using a debian testing (with a few unstable pkgs in it) and for now several weeks aptitude upgrade rtun a list of 300 pkgs (or so) unable to be upgraded. All seems related to KDE. For some time, I could read that there were problems with some kde pkgs for testing (kdeaddons in particular), but it seems that its no more the case... Should I expect the upgrade to work now? Or is there still something? (Alternative being that my installati |
| 19:44.45 | teknoprep | its called network security.. ever hear of it? |
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| 19:45.00 | abrotman | Garp: C++ ABI transition |
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| 19:45.27 | Garp | abrotman: thanks, so its not over yet, right ? |
| 19:45.35 | abrotman | Garp: not even close afaik |
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| 19:45.59 | Vlat | delire: generally i found another approach since using unstable. just dd/gzip the whole device to a backup partition, save a lot of time |
| 19:46.08 | Garp | abrotman: should I switch to unstable? Last time i checked it wasnt so nice there too, but it may stabilize quicker, am I right ? |
| 19:46.09 | delire | Vlat: hehe |
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| 19:46.37 | shuu-2 | hi, is it possible to get a list of my harddrives, with a command? |
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| 19:46.41 | abrotman | Garp: it's . slightly better .. WRT to KDE .. your questions might be better suited for #debian-kde .. they should know more about the situation |
| 19:46.42 | teknoprep | is everyone here just anti-technological advances |
| 19:46.43 | delire | fdisk -l |
| 19:46.48 | shuu-2 | thx |
| 19:46.50 | abrotman | shuu-2: cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:46.54 | Ronin | teknoprep: yes we're a bunch of luddites |
| 19:46.58 | Garp | abrotman: OK, thank you very much. |
| 19:47.16 | ChrisVdB | Hey, anybody who knows a bit about IA64 here? My package builds seem to fail on that architecture, but I don't know why: http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?&pkg=ccrypt&ver=1.7-8&arch=ia64&file=log |
| 19:47.18 | abrotman | Ronin: i'm telling!!!! .. you're using a keyboard! |
| 19:47.30 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: IA64 or AMD64 ? |
| 19:47.45 | ChrisVdB | IA64 it says... |
| 19:47.48 | Garp | abrotman: I'll wait a few (some weeks) to let the 3.4 upgrade to stabilise on unstable, and reconsidere switching to it. |
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| 19:48.04 | Garp | abrotman: will ask on debian-kde :) |
| 19:48.10 | Garp | bebye everybdoy |
| 19:48.12 | abrotman | Ronin: good job .. you scared him off |
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| 19:48.30 | Ronin | abrotman: its a gift i have, now if i could just get that to work on certain users here |
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| 19:48.47 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: there is a very small #debian-ia64 |
| 19:48.52 | shuu-2 | abrotman: that didnt work ( using debian ) |
| 19:49.05 | ChrisVdB | abrotman: tnx for the hint... will ask there! |
| 19:49.10 | abrotman | shuu-2: what didn't? |
| 19:49.25 | shuu-2 | couldnt fint that folder |
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| 19:49.30 | abrotman | shuu-2: /proc/partitions ? |
| 19:49.33 | shuu-2 | nope |
| 19:49.35 | abrotman | it's a file .. not a folder |
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| 19:49.40 | delire | shuu-2: i'd be surprised if 'cat /proc/partitions' didn't work. |
| 19:49.43 | abrotman | cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:49.57 | shuu-2 | i didnt mean so delire :P |
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| 19:50.16 | Buddha| | What virtual machine / hardware emulators are available for Debian? (for free) |
| 19:50.21 | abrotman | bochs ? |
| 19:50.31 | kementeus | i feel sad now, i guess is unable to install pgadmin3 from repos :'( |
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| 19:50.44 | kementeus | maybe quemu??? |
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| 19:50.50 | abrotman | qemu |
| 19:50.54 | kementeus | s/quemu/qemu |
| 19:51.01 | abrotman | yay .. apt shut up |
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| 19:51.05 | delire | Buddha|: any hardware in particular you want to emulate? |
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| 19:51.23 | bop1 | any idea how do i install mod_deflate? |
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| 19:51.44 | delire | Buddha|: 'apt-cache search hardware emulation' here returns "gxemul - machine emulator for multiple architectures" |
| 19:52.06 | Buddha| | delire - i386. I wanted to have a i386 Linux distro and Windows running in virtual machines on my Athlon64. |
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| 19:52.41 | delire | Buddha|: oh.. |
| 19:53.25 | delire | bop1: apt-get install apache2-common |
| 19:53.51 | prock | is aptitude the defacto replacement for apt-get? |
| 19:53.51 | abrotman | !info bochs sarge |
| 19:53.53 | dpkg | bochs: (IA-32 PC emulator), section misc, is extra. Version: 2.1.1+20041109-3 (sarge), Packaged size: 571 kB, Installed size: 1808 kB |
| 19:53.58 | delire | bop1: dpkg -S mod_deflate.so reveals this is the package providing it. |
| 19:54.11 | abrotman | prock: it is if you want it to be .. some(like myself) never use it |
| 19:54.12 | bop1 | delire i dont have mod_deflate.so |
| 19:54.18 | bop1 | thats why i need to install it :) |
| 19:54.22 | abrotman | did you compile your own kernel ? |
| 19:54.31 | delire | bop1: i realise. |
| 19:54.51 | abrotman | ew ... he's british! |
| 19:54.57 | delire | prock: no, it's no a replacement. it just has a few automated approaches for dealing with dependency issues. |
| 19:55.06 | bop1 | delire so which package owns it? |
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| 19:55.19 | prock | ktnx |
| 19:55.36 | delire | bop1: see what i wrote above. or, yourself 'dpkg -S mod_deflate.so' |
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| 19:56.20 | Buddha| | delire - so would bochs or qemu work for that? |
| 19:56.33 | ChrisVdB | abrotman: nobody seems to be active in #debian-ia64 :-( |
| 19:56.45 | stew | bop1: are you looking for mod_deflate for apache1 or apache2 |
| 19:56.50 | bop1 | apache1 |
| 19:56.50 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: you might have to wait a while .. not many people have the cash for an itanium machine |
| 19:56.57 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: google said nothing ? |
| 19:56.58 | stew | bop1: it hasn't been packaged for debian |
| 19:57.07 | bop1 | delire but i dont have it, how do u expect it to work? heh |
| 19:57.08 | ChrisVdB | perhaps somebody here could take a quick look at the logs? It might not be ai64 specific... http://buildd.debian.org/build.php?&pkg=ccrypt&ver=1.7-8&arch=ia64&file=log |
| 19:57.11 | bop1 | stew i see. |
| 19:57.24 | stew | !dbugs 272686 |
| 19:57.25 | ChrisVdB | abrotman: googling didn't really help me |
| 19:57.26 | delire | Buddha|: i really am not the one to ask on this matter. i know little of architecture emulation i386<-->amd64 |
| 19:57.27 | dpkg | DONE:#272686:W[wnpp] RFP: libapache-mod-deflate -- Apache module to compress content before it is delivered to the client; Tue, 21 Sep 2004 14:03:05 UTC |
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| 19:57.45 | bop1 | i see |
| 19:57.54 | bop1 | stew what kind of encoding deflate is? its different than gzip? |
| 19:57.55 | stew | bop1: that is the rfp that was automatically closed when nobody did anything about it for over a year |
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| 19:58.02 | stew | bop1: i think its gzip |
| 19:58.11 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: it keeps dying on the same command |
| 19:58.13 | bop1 | so why there is mod_gzip too |
| 19:58.14 | stew | bop1: mod_deflate comes with apache2 by default in debian however |
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| 19:58.24 | delire | bop1: yes of course, just install apache2-common as i said. |
| 19:58.33 | stew | bop1: mod_deflate is newer afaik |
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| 19:58.46 | xtico | hi, i need help on configuring 2 ethernet cards for transparent proxy! |
| 19:58.51 | bop1 | hmm ok |
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| 19:59.01 | stew | delire: you think that if he install apachd2-common his apache 1.3.33 will have mod_deflate? |
| 19:59.08 | abrotman | it won't! |
| 19:59.16 | abrotman | stew: it's gonna be nice this weekend! |
| 19:59.19 | stew | yeah |
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| 19:59.30 | shingouz | hi from vienna, abrotman :p |
| 19:59.31 | stew | i'm trying to wrap up with a client so i can get out there now |
| 19:59.37 | abrotman | shingouz: you moved ? |
| 19:59.38 | shingouz | on route to bkk... |
| 19:59.42 | ChrisVdB | abrotman: somebody in #debian-ia64 is looking at it :-) tnx |
| 19:59.44 | neofutur | hi all |
| 19:59.48 | abrotman | shingouz: to bbk ? |
| 19:59.55 | abrotman | ChrisVdB: good for you :) |
| 19:59.56 | neofutur | I just installed the mserv package in testing |
| 20:00.05 | abrotman | wtf is bkk |
| 20:00.06 | neofutur | it comes with default login/passwords |
| 20:00.09 | abrotman | bangkok ? |
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| 20:00.17 | neofutur | root:a16aKMw/UDpfc:MASTER |
| 20:00.18 | neofutur | guest:ax/jGzB/YyIVk:GUEST |
| 20:00.20 | pipeline | bop1: I think it's the same algorithm, protocol, but a different codebase |
| 20:00.28 | neofutur | but I dont what thoses defaults are |
| 20:00.28 | shingouz | abrotman naahhh.. not yet but... :$ we will see, someone is going to move pretty soon. me or wife 2.0:p |
| 20:00.34 | neofutur | is this normal ? secure ? |
| 20:00.41 | abrotman | shingouz: i thought she lived with you already |
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| 20:00.55 | abrotman | shingouz: wtf is bkk ? |
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| 20:01.16 | zamaliphe | hi all |
| 20:01.18 | delire | stew: hmm, not sure about that. |
| 20:01.24 | Joersch | also hi |
| 20:01.30 | shingouz | visited but not lived. geez! gimme a break, i need at least a couple of months to get someone moved from the other side of the planet :) |
| 20:01.36 | shingouz | bangkok |
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| 20:01.43 | xtico | hey, how to use a second ethernet card? |
| 20:01.56 | zamaliphe | can any one help plz |
| 20:02.03 | abrotman | shingouz: oh .. i thought she was from finland like you |
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| 20:02.11 | abrotman | !tell zamaliphe about ask |
| 20:02.12 | neofutur | sorry I found them in /usr/share/doc/mserv/README.Debian |
| 20:02.15 | Vlat | xtico: what do you mean ? configure it and use it.. |
| 20:02.15 | shingouz | xtico edit interfaces and plug the card in. maybe you have to modprobe the correct module too |
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| 20:02.21 | stouset | shingouz: Buying a wife? ;) |
| 20:02.25 | Vlat | xtico: prefs are in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:02.25 | neofutur | but install with default user/pass is bad imho |
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| 20:02.39 | shingouz | stouset nope, no need. not all .th ladies are for sale |
| 20:02.50 | abrotman | but that one was :) |
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| 20:03.02 | zamaliphe | is ther is any chat prog that use mic and cam |
| 20:03.10 | xtico | it is up but not working, can't ping it from another box |
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| 20:03.12 | abrotman | gaim .. maybe ? |
| 20:03.22 | shingouz | abrotman i think you should pray to some deity that mai did not hear that. she will skin you alive if she did |
| 20:03.28 | klync | abrotman, xtico: afaik, gaim-vv is abandoned |
| 20:03.43 | pipeline | abrotman, klync, xtico : gaim-vv is in the main gaim source tree now. |
| 20:03.51 | shingouz | zamaliphe i think amsn should work somehow |
| 20:03.57 | zamaliphe | no i have try it allredy |
| 20:04.06 | abrotman | shingouz: bring it on! :) |
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| 20:04.14 | pipeline | abrotman, klync , xtico : the build depends to make vv work are pretty goddamn daunting, however, so I don't think it's enabled in the debian build of gaim. |
| 20:04.20 | shingouz | abrotman she is scary if she gets angry |
| 20:04.36 | abrotman | like wife 1.0 |
| 20:04.47 | Buddha| | LOL |
| 20:04.50 | zamaliphe | ok i will try amsn |
| 20:05.10 | shingouz | abrotman nope, this one actually bites. the previous version only turned nasty |
| 20:05.43 | Fu_Bart | Hi there, I just tried "apt-get -t unstable" - which brings me to my "kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>=1.4.0)" dilemma. My installed libarts1-dev version is 1.4.1-1 - which ought to satisfy that requirement. So why is apt-get beefing? |
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| 20:06.05 | xtico | pipeline: I'm not getting it!!! |
| 20:06.16 | verso | a |
| 20:06.19 | abrotman | shingouz: get her a muzzle :) |
| 20:06.38 | shingouz | abrotman another way would be to be nice to her |
| 20:06.39 | abrotman | shingouz: does 1.0 know you're visiting 2.0 ? |
| 20:06.45 | pipeline | xtico: gaim-vv was a project to add voice and video stuff to gaim |
| 20:06.49 | abrotman | shingouz: or bite back? :) |
| 20:06.49 | stew | !+depends kdelibs4-dev |
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| 20:06.52 | dpkg | kdelibs4-dev: depends on kdelibs4c2a (= 4:3.5.0-3), kdelibs-bin (= 4:3.5.0-3), libart-2.0-dev (>= 2.3.17), libarts1-dev (>= 1.5.0), libasound2-dev, libacl1-dev, libattr1-dev, libaspell-dev, hspell, libbz2-dev, libcupsys2-dev, libfam-dev, libidn11-dev, libjasper-1.701-dev, libkrb5-dev, libopenexr-dev (>= 1.2.2-3), libpcre3-dev, liblualib50-dev, libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5), libsasl2-dev, libssl-dev, libtiff4-dev (>= 3.7.3-1), libxml2-dev, libxml2-utils, ... |
| 20:06.55 | pipeline | xtico: it used to be separate, but now it's been merged into regular gaim |
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| 20:07.00 | shingouz | abrotman 1.0 is long gone and good riddance |
| 20:07.03 | abrotman | stew: it's the "..." that's scary |
| 20:07.08 | pipeline | xtico: however, all the vv stuff is disabled in the debian build because it's complicated to make it work |
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| 20:07.21 | xtico | pieline: ok |
| 20:07.22 | ralfWORK | what is vv? |
| 20:07.28 | ralfWORK | oh ok |
| 20:07.39 | ralfWORK | lol sorry, didn't see what pipeline said up there |
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| 20:07.46 | stew | abrotman: i swear i just did that in /msg and got Package 'kdelibs4-dev ' does not exist |
| 20:07.47 | pipeline | xtico: you can try "apt-get source gaim" to look and see whether the source tree that the debian package uses contains the vv patches. If it does, you might be able to add that stuff in. |
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| 20:08.21 | stew | Fu_Bart: show us the output of "apt-cache policy libarts1-dev kdelibs4-dev", use a pastebin |
| 20:08.48 | xtico | vlat: i only see eth1 on my /etc/network/interfaces, but when i do ifconfig i see eth0 and eth1 |
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| 20:09.16 | pipeline | xtico: That just means that eth0 isn't set up. You can add lines to /etc/network/interfaces to make it automatically configure itself at bootup. |
| 20:09.27 | abrotman | stew: did you append etch maybe ? |
| 20:09.31 | stew | no |
| 20:09.35 | abrotman | oh well |
| 20:09.39 | stew | dunno |
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| 20:09.54 | Fu_Bart | dpkg: Thanx a lot |
| 20:09.54 | dpkg | no problem, Fu_Bart |
| 20:09.55 | stew | xtico: you see eth0 when you type "ifconfig" or "ifconfig -a" ? |
| 20:11.36 | xtico | ye i do |
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| 20:11.36 | xtico | but it doesn't answer ping to anyone |
| 20:11.37 | abrotman | does it have an IP ? |
| 20:11.37 | stew | xtico: which did you type? "ifconfig" or "ifconfig -a"? |
| 20:11.37 | Fu_Bart | stew: pastebin - do you have a site? |
| 20:11.37 | stew | !paster |
| 20:11.37 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 20:11.37 | xtico | yes it has ip, i did ifconfig |
| 20:11.39 | xtico | just did -a option and see the same! |
| 20:11.39 | stew | xtico: if you type "ifconfig eth0 down" then "/etc/init.d/networking restart", then "ifconfig" do you see it again? |
| 20:11.41 | kementeus | well, i would try to survive without pgadmin :( |
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| 20:11.57 | xtico | if i do eth0 down ill be disconnected! |
| 20:12.05 | stew | yes |
| 20:12.08 | Lee__ | is there an automated way to generate an SSL cert for apache2 in sarge? |
| 20:12.12 | xtico | oh no that is eth1 |
| 20:12.14 | zamaliphe | hi agine amsn is only hotmail and is not work |
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| 20:12.33 | stew | xtico: if you do networking restart it will take down eth1 and bring it back up |
| 20:12.45 | xtico | yes! |
| 20:12.45 | zamaliphe | plezzzzzz any on have idea |
| 20:12.56 | peppet | xtico, is there a cable plugged in eth1? |
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| 20:13.04 | xtico | yes it is... |
| 20:13.08 | stew | zamaliphe: /msg dpkg bts |
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| 20:13.18 | Elly | hey guys, how do I cause X to run a program as root? |
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| 20:13.32 | stew | Elly: /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 20:14.04 | xtico | the main problem seems to be that it is not working but that is not true, i see the "link down" when i unplugg it! |
| 20:14.24 | xtico | and the link up when i plug the cable in |
| 20:14.46 | Fu_Bart | stew: OK, it's at: http://channels.debian.net/paste (#debian, Fu_Bart, of course) |
| 20:15.00 | stew | Fu_Bart: you have to give the full url including the number at the end |
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| 20:15.56 | Vlat | xtico: hardware layer should work in any case. networking layer - not |
| 20:16.21 | Vlat | xtico: so you need configure the interface, bind it to ip, give it a netmask, etc.. |
| 20:16.24 | Fu_Bart | stew: Opps, sorry: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1529 |
| 20:16.38 | peppet | xtico, do the interfaces have different network address? |
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| 20:16.54 | kknoppix | hello |
| 20:17.03 | kknoppix | !sources |
| 20:17.03 | dpkg | If you have problems adding unofficial sites to /etc/apt/sources.list, try "deb URL ./" or 'man 5 sources.list' or woody: 'deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian woody main contrib non-free' or woody non-us: 'deb http://non-US.debian.org/debian-non-US woody/non-US main contrib non-free', or use apt-setup in package base-config to configure your sources.list, or examples: /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/sources.list, |
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| 20:17.20 | kknoppix | !mplayer |
| 20:17.20 | dpkg | i heard mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 20:17.23 | stew | Fu_Bart: you need to run apt-get update, your sources are out of date |
| 20:17.26 | kknoppix | !mplayer |
| 20:17.40 | stew | Fu_Bart: it says candidate kdelibs is 3.4 but 3.5 is in unstable |
| 20:18.02 | kknoppix | !marillat |
| 20:18.02 | dpkg | marillat is, like, an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
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| 20:18.25 | xtico | ok look i already did ifconfig eth0 {ip} netmask {mask}... it seems to work but i can't connect through it! |
| 20:18.31 | kknoppix | !marillatkey |
| 20:18.34 | BullWeivel | i have an email problem. I want to be able to setup a mail relay on one of my boxes so I can email out. From where I am at right now they are blocking port 25. I want to setup something so that i can connect on another port and then have the box redirect it back out port 25 to the email server its suppose to be delivered to. Any ideas?? |
| 20:18.35 | jjazz | kknoppix: /msg dpkg will get that info for you without flooding everybody else. |
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| 20:18.41 | Ronin | kknoppix: you know you and /msg dpkg that too |
| 20:18.43 | kknoppix | oh sorry |
| 20:18.43 | stew | Fu_Bart: wait, i'm wrong |
| 20:18.50 | stew | Fu_Bart: i didn't notice you were pinned |
| 20:18.53 | Vlat | xtico: also you need to configure routes |
| 20:19.03 | Vlat | xtico: route add ... wherever you need |
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| 20:20.08 | kknoppix | am i sarge stable? |
| 20:20.28 | Ronin | kknoppix: how would we know kknoppix? shouldnt you know that? |
| 20:20.32 | stew | Fu_Bart: oh, kdelibs4-dev in etch depends on libarts 1.4.2, not 1.4.1, you need to upgrade them both at the same time |
| 20:20.42 | cortex | After the latest upgrade I have no mouse cursor in gnome, it is there at first, but it disappears when logging in. Anyone know how to fix this? |
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| 20:20.54 | xtico | Vlat: ok look i already did ifconfig eth0 {ip} netmask {mask}... it seems to work but i can't connect through it! do still have to configure what you are saying? |
| 20:21.17 | Vlat | xtico: you want to reach internet via given interface ? |
| 20:21.29 | Vlat | xtico: if so - do route add default gw <address of gateway> |
| 20:21.32 | xtico | no it is to connect the intranet! |
| 20:22.18 | Vlat | route add -net 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.0.0 dev eth0 |
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| 20:22.38 | Vlat | will route everything as 192.168.x.x with nm 255.255.0.0 via eth0 |
| 20:22.43 | Fu_Bart | stew: "apt-get update" runs without complaint, but "apt-get -t unstable dist-upgrade" says I have broken packages (kdelibs4-dev, depends libarts1-dev). Why does apt-get tell lies about the needed libarts1-dev version? |
| 20:22.45 | Vlat | substitute your data |
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| 20:23.05 | Azar | xtico, maybe the dns #s? did you add them? |
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| 20:24.47 | xtico | no, i didnt add any route, Vlat i did the commands on the squid how-to "iptables -t -nat..." |
| 20:24.48 | jonas3 | MFG - Overload.mp3 |
| 20:24.53 | stew | Fu_Bart: try installing just libarts1-dev from unstable and see why it doesn't want to install that |
| 20:25.01 | stew | Fu_Bart: probably due to some other broken dependency down the line |
| 20:25.17 | zamaliphe | so i gess no chat prog usess mic??? |
| 20:25.21 | xtico | do i need to add the routing thing? |
| 20:25.31 | stew | zamaliphe: huh? |
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| 20:26.18 | zamaliphe | thanks stew alot |
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| 20:27.03 | tech13 | is there a command to split a file up with headers repeated into each smaller file? |
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| 20:27.29 | junix-other | hey guys i'm getting this error with my video card iuts nvidia : http://pastebin.com/499738 |
| 20:28.10 | oz__ | wmaker receives signal 11 on amd64, anyone? |
| 20:28.13 | bkorb | I have an AMD64x2. The kernel is smp. CPU1 is running, but not CPU0. How do I do that? |
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| 20:28.57 | jbroome | bkorb: are both cpus in /proc/cpuinfo? |
| 20:29.02 | verso | somebody can help ne????????????????' |
| 20:29.31 | labnick | verso: please rephrase your question |
| 20:29.34 | Silent_al | verso, dont ask meta questions... |
| 20:29.35 | centrx | haha |
| 20:29.37 | Fu_Bart | stew: OK apt-get install libarts4-dev gave this message (after a plethora of package names): Need to get 48.3MB of archives. After unpacking 833MB disk space will be freed." Y-i-i-k-e-s |
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| 20:30.20 | bkorb | To tech13 -jbroome - No. It shows that there are two cores, but "processor : 0" is the only processor line. |
| 20:30.36 | abrotman | !it |
| 20:30.36 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 20:32.03 | bkorb | To jbroome - do you want to see /proc/cpuinfo "contents"? |
| 20:32.53 | oz__ | don't paste |
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| 20:33.11 | bkorb | ok. Needed to ask :) |
| 20:33.19 | Fu_Bart | stew: Is there any way of auditing all installed software (UniStride 5.2 used to have it on my Stride 460 :) ) |
| 20:33.51 | verso | sorry labnick and Silent_al !i want to install debian on old laptop.. i can boot version 3.something from cd, now i need my system to recognize my cd-rom, that is connected with a pcmcia adapter.. what can i do? sorry, but it's first time i try to install debian.. |
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| 20:34.13 | Fu_Bart | - and it all fitted onto 65MB drive |
| 20:34.22 | beardy | Fu_Bart: audit, as in doing what? |
| 20:34.29 | eeyore- | verso: sony? |
| 20:34.35 | verso | acer |
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| 20:34.40 | verso | eeyore-: acer |
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| 20:34.52 | eeyore- | verso: if it's anything like the sony, you have to specify the base-address of the ide by hand |
| 20:34.56 | Fu_Bart | beardy: as in checking the deps of all installed software |
| 20:35.02 | oz__ | bkorb: but you should see two CPU in /proc/cpuinfo |
| 20:35.15 | bkorb | To jbroome - any info on how to configure second cpu? Google didn't get me there. Nor any "howto" things I thought of.... |
| 20:35.40 | oz__ | bkorb: install the kernel-smp package |
| 20:35.40 | verso | eeyore-: i'm totally new.. let's say i'm watching the bootstrap.. how can i do? :) |
| 20:35.53 | bkorb | "siblings : 2" and "cpu cores : 2" yes. |
| 20:35.59 | oz__ | a bit complicated to say. |
| 20:36.00 | Vlat | any good manual on creating deb packages ? (have enough of compiling untested stuff to /opt) |
| 20:36.30 | eeyore- | verso: try passing ide0=0x.... (base address of the IDE controller) |
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| 20:36.58 | bkorb | NOTE: I am looking at "system monitor" and seeing only one "CPU History" and using that to "assume" (ahem) that only one core is active. |
| 20:37.23 | eeyore- | verso: the specific value is going to depend on your pcmcia adaptor :-) or, you can give up, pull the drive out, hook it up to a desktop (via 40<->44-pin adaptor) and install it there, then putting it back in the laptop |
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| 20:37.33 | Fu_Bart | beardy: It's a clean system and only debian stuff is installed |
| 20:37.52 | eeyore- | verso: or, you can boot a recent livecd like knoppix and install debian from inside the chroot |
| 20:38.02 | verso | eeyore-: i'm more n00b... |
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| 20:38.13 | eeyore- | verso: try the knoppix livecd approach then |
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| 20:39.04 | verso | eeyore-: i tried already with damn small, (isn't made from knoppix?) but also it doesn't recognize it.. |
| 20:39.22 | streuner | !debootstrap workaround |
| 20:39.22 | dpkg | http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html |
| 20:39.34 | streuner | check out this, verso |
| 20:39.40 | omi | Hello, is it possible to have profiles for KDE based on which computer I'll logged in from |
| 20:39.54 | bkorb | oz__: It is supposed to be the smp kernel. I'll apt-get install kernel-smp, too, to see if there is a difference. |
| 20:40.02 | eeyore- | omi: nope |
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| 20:40.14 | streuner | verso: its about woody, but it should help to 'manage' it |
| 20:40.25 | Shadowcat | omi: profiles? |
| 20:40.25 | omi | eeyore-, do you know if that is in the works? |
| 20:40.30 | eeyore- | omi: in what way is that useful? |
| 20:40.32 | Caroch | hello |
| 20:40.48 | omi | it is very useful |
| 20:40.50 | omi | example |
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| 20:40.55 | bkorb | oz__: the result: ``E: Couldn't find package kernel-smp'' |
| 20:41.01 | Caroch | how can I determine which version of debian I am running ? I just don't remember. |
| 20:41.12 | bkorb | Both offered kernels are smp at boot time. |
| 20:41.14 | eeyore- | omi: there's no situation where that's useful. programs do not execute on the computer you "log in from" |
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| 20:41.17 | omi | I have desktops and Xterms, on Xterms I want to have as little graphics as possible |
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| 20:41.29 | verso | streuner: i've just to follow instructions? cause i've to disconnect if i want to try it (don't ask me why :) ) |
| 20:41.34 | peppet | Caroch, cat /etc/debian_version |
| 20:41.34 | omi | so I would like to have preferences based on the computer |
| 20:41.42 | versuchsanstalt | i have a problem with a canon (pixus) i550 bj printer. I am using the japanese drivers from canon, which i have installed as a .deb package. When I try to configure the printer on localhost:631, I am offered three models to choose from, but not the i550. Choosing i560 doesnt do the trick. What should I try next? |
| 20:41.45 | Fu_Bart | Caroch: uname -a |
| 20:41.45 | Caroch | peppet, thanks |
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| 20:41.53 | RiX0R | Hello, I need a bit of help; I have a package that won't uninstall -- I removed all files by hand, but now I need to make the package manager forget the package was ever installed. How do I do t hat? |
| 20:41.56 | Caroch | Fu_Bart, that doesn't help |
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| 20:41.58 | eeyore- | omi: you're talking about telnet'ing in as opposed to XDMCP? |
| 20:42.16 | beardy | omi: Why run KDE then, if you only want to run an xterm from the other boxes. Or just ssh? |
| 20:42.28 | Shadowcat | omi: listen, if you want different profiles |
| 20:42.29 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: isn |
| 20:42.32 | Shadowcat | create different user names |
| 20:42.33 | beardy | omi: why not just ssh instead, I mean |
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| 20:42.34 | versuchsanstalt | I have also tried other models such as s600 as advised on several web pages reporting success, but to no avail. |
| 20:42.37 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: isn't there a ppd for 550? |
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| 20:42.40 | Shadowcat | a user has ONE set of config files |
| 20:42.42 | versuchsanstalt | hi streuner, it's been a long time |
| 20:42.46 | omi | no, I run XDMCP |
| 20:42.46 | charon | anyone know how to set mutt to get only unread messages from the server? |
| 20:42.47 | Shadowcat | if you want several sets, you need several users |
| 20:42.49 | streuner | hi versuchsanstalt |
| 20:42.50 | verso | streuner: ok.. i can't follow this.. my internet connection is strange |
| 20:42.51 | Shadowcat | that's how it works |
| 20:42.57 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: hmm, i should locate the ppds, yeah. |
| 20:43.08 | Caroch | so, I'm running debian stable powerpc. "module-assistant prepare" tries to run "apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.8-powerpc", which fails (it says impossible to find this package). what can I do ? |
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| 20:43.10 | heymikeeh | must go today 2 alienware laptops 500$ message me if interested on aim at mikcomputing, yahoo at mperkelay or msn at mcsltd2@hotmail.com. price includes sameday shipping, case, wireless router. I do have a yahoo auctoin set up for this purchase. |
| 20:43.12 | bkorb | anyone: how can I start my second AMD64x2 core? The booted kernel is smp. |
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| 20:43.21 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: yep, usually there should be a ppd for |
| 20:43.21 | Shadowcat | !ops heymikeeh is spamming |
| 20:43.21 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: heymikeeh is spamming |
| 20:43.26 | cisee | bkorb: cat /proc/cpuinfo |
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| 20:43.51 | eeyore- | just one message :-) |
| 20:44.01 | Shadowcat | eeyore-: that's alienware spam though |
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| 20:44.08 | omi | beardy, Shad0wcat I want to have all my preferences identical regardless where I log in (exported /home from nfs) but on certain machines I want to have different look |
| 20:44.16 | RiX0R | Anyone? |
| 20:44.17 | versuchsanstalt | I can't specify ppds in the web frontend, or can I? What other ways are there to configure printers with cups? a config file? |
| 20:44.20 | bkorb | cisee: It shows "processor : 0" and "cpu cores : 2" but the system monitor only shows one active CPU. |
| 20:44.23 | Shadowcat | omi: then create two different users |
| 20:44.31 | Shadowcat | omi: you either have the same settings or you don't |
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| 20:44.35 | Shadowcat | it's all or nothing |
| 20:44.36 | cisee | bkorb: what system monitor ? |
| 20:44.36 | omi | that is exactly what I DO NOT want to do |
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| 20:44.36 | eeyore- | bkorb: then use a better system monitor :-p |
| 20:44.42 | eeyore- | bkorb: top, type in "1" |
| 20:44.47 | Shadowcat | omi: get over it |
| 20:45.08 | klync | omi: you could write a .profile or .bashrc that checks $HOSTNAME |
| 20:45.10 | stefan_ | entering the line "/dev/hdb1/media/mmautoauto,umask=00000" in /etc/fstab will automaticly mount /dev/hdb1 in the dir /media/mm right? |
| 20:45.20 | RiX0R | Is there another place I should be asking this instead? |
| 20:45.27 | versuchsanstalt | is there a good cupsd configuration tool for the clickety-clack? |
| 20:45.29 | beardy | klync: it will always be the mahince he runs KDE on. |
| 20:45.34 | beardy | machine |
| 20:45.35 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: no |
| 20:45.38 | eeyore- | omi: if you want to get creative, you could switch your entire ~/.kde* based on your DISPLAY :-) |
| 20:45.46 | Shadowcat | eeyore-: mind throwing the alienware spammer out? he's been spamming efnet for ages |
| 20:45.48 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: just use http://localhost:631 |
| 20:45.49 | bkorb | The system monitor one gets from the pull down system menu. |
| 20:45.52 | streuner | or whatever |
| 20:46.02 | Fu_Bart | Gotta go, see ya |
| 20:46.04 | bkorb | I am trying "top" and "1" now to see what I get |
| 20:46.05 | eeyore- | omi: but really, that's just dumb ... suck it up and use a faster LAN |
| 20:46.11 | versuchsanstalt | yeah, whatever. :-) |
| 20:46.13 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: if you have the right ppd it will show you there |
| 20:46.14 | eeyore- | Shadowcat: if he's doing it again, sure |
| 20:46.24 | RiX0R | Boo! |
| 20:46.26 | Set | If I were to install debian, would someone from here be willing to help me by pointing to an easy configurable ftp server and howto make a script run at startup?... |
| 20:46.33 | omi | eeyore-, send me money to buy desktops how about that? |
| 20:46.47 | omi | also pay for the power |
| 20:46.47 | klync | RiX0R: i missed your question, fwiw |
| 20:46.55 | omi | I would be more than happy too then |
| 20:46.58 | RiX0R | I have a package that won't uninstall -- I removed all files by hand, but now I need to make the package manager forget the package was ever installed. How do I do t hat? |
| 20:47.12 | eeyore- | omi: what, you don't have solar panels? |
| 20:47.17 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: maybe i can make a link to have it appear in the list on the http frontend |
| 20:47.24 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: its not that often, you have to run the configure web thingie ;-) |
| 20:47.25 | eeyore- | barbarians |
| 20:47.27 | klync | RiX0R: so, just uninstalling it gives an error b/c the files aren't there? |
| 20:47.34 | omi | eeyore-, I guess it would go well with my solar-powered flashlight |
| 20:47.37 | omi | :D |
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| 20:47.54 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: usually that should be true, but i'm beginning to really hate mum's driver |
| 20:47.58 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: so you have another ppd installed, but it just cannot find it? |
| 20:47.58 | RiX0R | It was depending on some other file; that crashed the installer and afterwards the uninstaller, and now I'm stuck |
| 20:48.08 | bkorb | eeyore et al.: I see stats for Cpu0, but not Cpu1. So, that means I am not running second core, yes? |
| 20:48.23 | inf_l00p | hi all, i just upgraded (sid) to kde3.5 and xorg6.9.0, and many fonts (unifonts, fixed(misc) ) seem either having the wrong size or are misalligned, anyone know how to correct it. |
| 20:48.24 | RiX0R | klync: Erm, --^ |
| 20:48.25 | eeyore- | omi: that's so old and busted. new hotness = kinetic flashlight |
| 20:48.27 | klync | RiX0R: you might be able to hack the pre-remove script, but it'll be a bit messy |
| 20:48.28 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: the japanese .deb gives me three models to choose from, i560 being the most similar |
| 20:48.33 | eeyore- | bkorb: yep |
| 20:48.42 | eeyore- | bkorb: maybe you disabled it in the bios |
| 20:48.47 | RiX0R | klync: But all the files are gone, no probs; isn't there just some "list of installed packages" I can hack? |
| 20:48.57 | bkorb | eeyore: OK. Going down to check bios. |
| 20:48.58 | bkorb | Bye |
| 20:49.02 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: but they all don't work, i did restart cupsys too just to make sure the changes are getting applied |
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| 20:49.16 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: canon printer ? |
| 20:49.16 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: i will search for more ppds |
| 20:49.34 | versuchsanstalt | YES A CANON PRINTER. yuk yuk. scnr |
| 20:49.35 | Shadowcat | RiX0R: you're gonna have to read the dpkg manual for that |
| 20:49.44 | klync | RiX0R: i don't know enough about apt to tell you how that would be done... but i have edited the pre/post scripts before |
| 20:49.51 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: turboprint works great |
| 20:49.55 | stefan_ | is there a #debian channel for specific countrys/languages for exaple sweden/swedish? just curious..? |
| 20:50.15 | Shadowcat | !se |
| 20:50.15 | dpkg | it has been said that se is Social Engineering. Sweden |
| 20:50.20 | Shadowcat | guess not |
| 20:50.23 | RiX0R | klync: Where can I find those scripts? |
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| 20:50.29 | eeyore- | #debian-bork-bork-bork |
| 20:50.30 | versuchsanstalt | yaloki: does everybody pay for turboprint drivers nowadays? |
| 20:50.39 | klync | RiX0R: i was just trying to remember that... somewhere in /var |
| 20:50.41 | jjazz | !swedish |
| 20:50.41 | dpkg | it has been said that swedish is Det finns en svenskspråkig kanal där du kan ställa dina frågor på svenska. #debian.se (There is a channel with swedish as its main language, there you can ask questions in swedish. #debian.se) |
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| 20:50.42 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: it's cheap |
| 20:50.51 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: and it works great |
| 20:50.55 | versuchsanstalt | yaloki: yeah, about twenty bucks i think |
| 20:50.58 | gorski | hello can somebody help me with mysql, please? |
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| 20:51.10 | Shadowcat | gorski: #mysql |
| 20:51.15 | versuchsanstalt | and i guess mum would pay for it. should be my last resort |
| 20:51.25 | eeyore- | gorski: depends on how hard the question is |
| 20:51.46 | gorski | i installed mysql-server and i writed mysqladmin -u root password db_user_password |
| 20:51.50 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: yep, it's something around that. I bought them for my i965, great quality, good stuff, and you get upgrades for free. |
| 20:51.57 | versuchsanstalt | but it's so annoying to read all the forum postings of people who got it working with the japanese free-as-in-beer drivers |
| 20:52.14 | gorski | but he tells me access denied |
| 20:52.15 | versuchsanstalt | yaloki: free upgrades are a good thing |
| 20:52.16 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: an OSS driver would be better but.. well... turboprint just works |
| 20:52.21 | eeyore- | stick with lasers/postscript printers |
| 20:52.42 | versuchsanstalt | yaloki: i will take a look at what payment they accept |
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| 20:52.46 | eeyore- | inkjet inks are farking expensive ... ripoffs |
| 20:53.01 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: credit card I'm sure, I paid with visa |
| 20:53.01 | versuchsanstalt | yaloki: thank you for sharing your experience |
| 20:53.05 | yaloki | versuchsanstalt: np |
| 20:53.06 | Shadowcat | >:) |
| 20:53.09 | gorski | anyone? |
| 20:53.11 | yaloki | Shadowcat: yuck |
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| 20:53.20 | Shadowcat | yaloki: yup, HP sucks |
| 20:53.21 | eeyore- | as a matter of fact i *do* print with HP printers :-) |
| 20:53.29 | Shadowcat | eeyore-: then you suck even more |
| 20:53.30 | Shadowcat | :P |
| 20:53.52 | versuchsanstalt | is there a printer manuf that doesnt suck? |
| 20:53.55 | gorski | please |
| 20:53.59 | eeyore- | HP4050NT, HP color laserjet 2550N |
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| 20:54.03 | bibe | gorski : was mysql-server already installed? |
| 20:54.07 | blondie | versuchsanstalt: HP? |
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| 20:54.19 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: what did you smoke today? |
| 20:54.33 | blondie | streuner: that sounds like a MS slogan |
| 20:54.34 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: printing in linux is a PITA |
| 20:54.35 | yaloki | the Canon inkjets are great printers |
| 20:54.35 | dazzzt | weed=) |
| 20:54.36 | gorski | yes it was |
| 20:54.42 | Shadowcat | streuner: he didn't smoke, that's why he's all screwed up |
| 20:54.45 | yaloki | HP is great for laser printers, but suck at inkjet |
| 20:54.49 | Shadowcat | yaloki: Canon is cheap, that's about it |
| 20:54.57 | bibe | gorski : so you upgraded mysql-server? |
| 20:54.59 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: I cannot fiind any 'bj i550' printer at linuxprinting.org |
| 20:55.01 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: i smoked gaule gals in the red box |
| 20:55.05 | Shadowcat | cheapest TCO you can get with inkjets |
| 20:55.06 | eeyore- | HP printers are built like tanks |
| 20:55.07 | gorski | yes |
| 20:55.12 | streuner | bah, the taste terrible |
| 20:55.12 | eeyore- | you can kick 'em and not break a thing. |
| 20:55.19 | streuner | s/the/they/ |
| 20:55.22 | eeyore- | except your foot ... |
| 20:55.31 | RiX0R | klync: Hey, it worked. fyi, I found the .prerm script in /var/lib/dpkg/info |
| 20:55.31 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: yes, my brother bought the printer before he knew that my mum was switching to debian. |
| 20:55.35 | Shadowcat | eeyore-: and their maintenance bills costs just as much as that for a tank |
| 20:55.36 | RiX0R | klync: Thanks |
| 20:55.36 | bibe | gorski : the root password does not change after upgrading, you should use the old password |
| 20:55.37 | versuchsanstalt | she loves it, btw |
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| 20:55.53 | Shadowcat | versuchsanstalt: your mom? switching to debian? |
| 20:55.59 | Shadowcat | wow that must be one tech savvy mom |
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| 20:56.04 | versuchsanstalt | yes, this is my mums machine |
| 20:56.08 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: did you check out linuxprinting.org yet? |
| 20:56.11 | eeyore- | Shadowcat: it's worthwhile to fix them once, each. then it's cheaper to buy faster, newer, better unit :-) |
| 20:56.13 | klync | RiX0R: yay! |
| 20:56.15 | gorski | but... |
| 20:56.32 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: yes, nothing there. it's one of THESE printers |
| 20:56.43 | gorski | how to make it work, or change the password? |
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| 20:56.55 | Shadowcat | gorski: ask in #mysql |
| 20:56.58 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: hm, what does groups.google.com say about? |
| 20:56.59 | eeyore- | FWIW, CUPS has been good to me |
| 20:57.00 | Shadowcat | why don't you understand this? |
| 20:57.03 | versuchsanstalt | Shadowcat: my mum says that evolution handles attachments better than all the wintendo email clients she used before |
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| 20:57.10 | bibe | gorski : use mysqladmin -u root -p password new_password, and supply the old password |
| 20:57.18 | Shadowcat | gorski: you have an mysql problem, not a debian problem |
| 20:57.24 | Shadowcat | bibe: I bet he doesn't remember the old pass |
| 20:57.31 | eeyore- | gorski: you need to read the mysql documentation carefully. |
| 20:57.32 | bibe | gorski : or, better, read mysql documentation and/or ask in #mysql |
| 20:57.32 | gorski | but he gives me access denied |
| 20:57.33 | versuchsanstalt | Shadowcat: and she is not very tech-savvy |
| 20:57.33 | miccet | "As you can see in the above example, APT also takes care of removing packages which depend on the package you have asked to remove." - why is this not happening on my system? |
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| 20:57.46 | eeyore- | gorski: you have a beginner's problem, one that can be solved by reading, and *understanding* |
| 20:57.56 | UdontKnow | aka_druid_: lo |
| 20:57.57 | eeyore- | gorski: come back if you have more challenging problems |
| 20:57.59 | Shadowcat | !tell gorski about read |
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| 20:58.28 | bkorb | eeyore: No joy. I traversed the entire bios menu and found no enable/disable of the second core. Another guess, please? :) |
| 20:58.44 | eeyore- | bkorb: what did you look for? "hyperthreading"? |
| 20:58.46 | bibe | gorski : look for --skip-grant-tables into mysql documentation |
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| 20:59.05 | eeyore- | bkorb: btw, what CPU is this? |
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| 20:59.07 | bkorb | eeyore: that would have attracted my attention. No. |
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| 20:59.46 | bkorb | AMD64x2 :Hammer" model 43 |
| 21:00.07 | bkorb | 2061 MHz |
| 21:00.16 | JohnLenin | Hi, could someone please help me set up a wireless bridge here? Googled everywhere but can't find out how. I've got an internal nic to a LAN and a wireless card here and I want to be able to get nat working for both of them |
| 21:00.25 | eeyore- | bkorb: and you're sure you have SMP kernel? grep CONFIG_SMP /boot/config* |
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| 21:00.42 | eeyore- | bkorb: could i see your /proc/cpuinfo file? |
| 21:00.50 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: are you still here? |
| 21:00.51 | Thorrn4 | hello!! Is it possible to rename a mounted drive? ex: from "hdf1" to "hdh1"? |
| 21:00.52 | bkorb | CONFIG_SMP=y |
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| 21:01.00 | abrotman | eeyore-: 3 hamsters\nbogomips 1.32 |
| 21:01.12 | Shadowcat | Thorrn4: you can rename the mount point |
| 21:01.16 | bkorb | bkorb@brahms:~$ cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 21:01.16 | bkorb | processor : 0 |
| 21:01.16 | bkorb | vendor_id : AuthenticAMD |
| 21:01.16 | bkorb | cpu family : 15 |
| 21:01.16 | bkorb | model : 43 |
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| 21:01.19 | versuchsanstalt | Thorrn4: you are talking about device names, you cant change them |
| 21:01.21 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: just use 'BJC-7100' |
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| 21:01.29 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: great, i will try |
| 21:01.29 | Pedro420 | nvz: you around? |
| 21:01.31 | Shadowcat | versuchsanstalt: actually that's not entirely true |
| 21:01.34 | Shadowcat | you can change them |
| 21:01.34 | Thorrn4 | oh, ok versuchsanstalt |
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| 21:01.41 | Shadowcat | it's just a pain, oh and YOU SHOULDN'T |
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| 21:01.46 | versuchsanstalt | Shadowcat: but i am sure that Thorrn4 shouldnt |
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| 21:01.52 | blondie | you could ln -s to something else |
| 21:01.55 | bkorb | hmmm. |
| 21:01.55 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: check out linuxprinting.org/canon-faq |
| 21:02.04 | bkorb | eeyore: got auto thrown off |
| 21:02.11 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: o cool, i didnt come across that one |
| 21:02.12 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: check out linuxprinting.org/canon-faq.html |
| 21:02.13 | eeyore- | abrotman: 3 hamsters would be unsymmetrical. you need either a fourth hamsters or replace the third hamster with an african hairy tailed gerbil or a mole rat. |
| 21:02.23 | bkorb | eeyore: did you get cpuinfo? |
| 21:02.27 | Pedro420 | nvz_: are you around? |
| 21:02.33 | abrotman | eeyore-: the third is the math coproc :) |
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| 21:02.43 | eeyore- | s/unsymmetrical/asymmetrical |
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| 21:03.11 | eeyore- | bkorb: try /query eeyore- and paste in there instead. |
| 21:03.21 | Ungy | why is it asymmetrical and not bsymmetrical |
| 21:03.40 | abrotman | !smack Ungy |
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| 21:03.55 | Ungy | Gee thansk coach(abrotman) |
| 21:03.56 | eeyore- | *deafening silence* |
| 21:04.02 | jjazz | Ungy: Because when things are asymmetrical, they don't be symmetrical. |
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| 21:04.15 | mhall | How do I get the audiocd: kioslave working? I have kdebase-kio-plugins but no luck so far... |
| 21:04.19 | Ungy | jjazz, your a funny guy but makes sense |
| 21:04.30 | bkorb | eeyore: thanks. Done. |
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| 21:04.43 | Koudelkaa | can i ad a driver to a debian iso? |
| 21:04.46 | eeyore- | bkorb: to whom did you paste that? :-) |
| 21:04.49 | Shadowcat | Koudelkaa: no |
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| 21:05.01 | Koudelkaa | not posible? |
| 21:05.15 | Ungy | this new gnome default package in sid is pretty |
| 21:05.26 | bkorb | eeyore: I typed, ``/query eeyore'' and went to another page. Pasted there. |
| 21:05.56 | delire | !alive |
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| 21:06.31 | eeyore- | bkorb: you forgot my tail. /query eeyore- |
| 21:06.45 | bkorb | Ah. |
| 21:06.49 | streuner | hehe |
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| 21:07.05 | streuner | eeyore-: beside, why do you use this at all? |
| 21:07.07 | streuner | :-) |
| 21:07.13 | eeyore- | use what? |
| 21:07.23 | streuner | '-' at the end of the nick |
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| 21:07.38 | eeyore- | streuner: dunno. because there are so many "eeyore" around? |
| 21:07.40 | bkorb | eeyore-: any better? |
| 21:07.44 | eeyore- | bkorb: nope |
| 21:07.46 | streuner | hm |
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| 21:07.54 | eeyore- | streuner: so i'm the one with the tail |
| 21:08.01 | versuchsanstalt | XB |
| 21:08.03 | streuner | hehe :-) |
| 21:08.06 | Zrin | how to acomplish simple but efficient one way folder synchronization, i.e. copy new files, delete non-existent files? |
| 21:08.06 | versuchsanstalt | oo, sorry for the noise |
| 21:08.18 | bkorb | Is the tail a tilde or a hyphen? (Font issue?) |
| 21:08.22 | eeyore- | Zrin: rsync -cavz --delete <source> <dest> |
| 21:08.24 | jjazz | Zrin: rsync |
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| 21:08.33 | Zrin | thank you |
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| 21:08.35 | eeyore- | bkorb: a minus sign, for lack of proper hyphen |
| 21:08.37 | slatyim | iam trying to start a program using sudo what do I put to in /etc/sudoers using visudo? |
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| 21:09.03 | eeyore- | Zrin: do "rsync -cavz --delete --dry-run <source> <dest>" first :-) the dry-run is to avoid catastrophic screwups |
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| 21:09.36 | xLP | could anyone tell me on which chan I can ask a question about shells and env variables ? |
| 21:09.41 | Zrin | eeyore- yes, thank you :-) |
| 21:09.55 | bkorb | eeyore-: ok. This time I x-clipped the "/query eeyore-" string. Did you get it? |
| 21:09.55 | Lee__ | xLP, google for "advanced bash scripting" |
| 21:10.08 | xLP | thx, but is it so advanced ? ;) |
| 21:10.10 | eeyore- | bkorb: why don't we go to #flood? |
| 21:10.10 | delire | slatyim: i for instance have a line "Cmnd_Alias VIM= /usr/bin/vim" and another "TRUSTED_ALL=VIM" |
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| 21:10.29 | slatyim | okay so I put username ALL= NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/programname in to /etc/sudoers usint visudo it asked for a passwd but user or root pass doesnt work |
| 21:10.33 | delire | slatyim: for this dual user machine |
| 21:10.34 | bkorb | OK. Switching to #flood. But how? :) |
| 21:10.35 | mhall | xLP: depending on the situation #bash is a good choice |
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| 21:10.47 | mhall | xLP: they can help you with most sh, ksh, bash stuff |
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| 21:10.59 | mhall | xLP: but if you ask C shell stuff you might get larted |
| 21:11.01 | UnKnowN-school | can i get help with dns here? |
| 21:11.03 | bkorb | eeyore: I'm new to this chat stuff, btw :) |
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| 21:11.14 | eeyore- | bkorb: nevermind :-) |
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| 21:11.19 | jjazz | !paster |
| 21:11.19 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 21:11.28 | delire | slatyim: this enables me to edit files system-wide with sudo and vim. |
| 21:11.40 | UnKnowN-school | How do you setup DNS servers for a domain on debian? |
| 21:11.50 | xLP | thx mhall |
| 21:11.56 | eeyore- | UnKnowN-school: like you set up DNS servers on any other UNIX platform |
| 21:11.59 | Shadowcat | uhh UnKnowN-school are you looking for a tutorial? |
| 21:12.00 | badblody | how can i replace the colour of all pixels from a color to another? |
| 21:12.04 | slatyim | delire: okay ill try those the program Iam trying is firestarter |
| 21:12.04 | Shadowcat | because I seriously doubt you'll get one |
| 21:12.26 | eeyore- | Shadowcat: what's wrong with kids these days? |
| 21:12.28 | UnKnowN-school | I've never done one ;) |
| 21:12.37 | Shadowcat | eeyore-: there's nothing wrong with KDE |
| 21:12.39 | mhall | badblody: GIMP? |
| 21:12.39 | Shadowcat | as far as I know |
| 21:12.46 | delire | slatyim: cool, good luck. |
| 21:12.47 | Shadowcat | unless you broke it again :P |
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| 21:13.07 | eeyore- | UnKnowN-school: go google for "bind dns howto tutorial" or some such |
| 21:13.08 | badblody | with imagemagick mhall |
| 21:13.10 | UnKnowN-school | Shadowcat where can I find someone to help? |
| 21:13.11 | delire | slatyim: to edit the /etc/sudoers file become root and 'visudo' |
| 21:13.19 | Koudelkaa | where can i find a list of all suported drivers on a debian port? |
| 21:13.31 | slatyim | delire: Yes I have |
| 21:13.31 | bkorb | eeyore : ok. I'm on the #paste server now... |
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| 21:13.39 | UnKnowN-school | there isn't something like that on google :/ |
| 21:13.44 | Shadowcat | the KDE 3.5 transition is going surprisingly well *knocks on wood* |
| 21:13.52 | Shadowcat | UnKnowN-school: then it's time to buy a book |
| 21:13.53 | delire | hehe |
| 21:13.54 | UnKnowN-school | Most of them I found is for 8.x |
| 21:14.06 | slatyim | delire: when it asks for a password when issuing the sudo command neither root pass or user works for me |
| 21:14.16 | migiel | how can i check which application is using port 443 ? |
| 21:14.28 | streuner | migiel: netstat |
| 21:14.30 | bkorb | eeyore: I'll wait there until you say, "hello"? |
| 21:14.36 | streuner | migiel: netstat | grep 443 |
| 21:14.37 | cisee | migiel: lsof | grep 443 |
| 21:14.41 | bibe | migiel : netstat -plutn |grep 443 |
| 21:14.42 | beardy | migiel: netstat, and lsof perhaps |
| 21:14.42 | eeyore- | bkorb: what channel do we want to go? |
| 21:14.43 | mhall | streuner: hallo! |
| 21:14.49 | streuner | mhall: hi |
| 21:14.52 | blondie | netstat gives process IDs? |
| 21:14.53 | jjazz | slatyim: that usually means you don't have permission to do what you're doing. It asks for a pass, so as not to leak info about the contents of the sudoers file. |
| 21:14.54 | bkorb | #paste, yes? |
| 21:14.56 | delire | slatyim: that is very odd. are you sure you have the line: "User_Alias TRUSTED = yournickname" |
| 21:15.03 | cisee | blondie: with plut |
| 21:15.11 | bkorb | Or you name it. Just tell me what to type. |
| 21:15.11 | Koudelkaa | so such list? |
| 21:15.13 | blondie | plut? |
| 21:15.15 | dondelelcaro | ¡¿?! |
| 21:15.21 | cisee | blondie: netstat -plut |
| 21:15.27 | cisee | or plan |
| 21:15.28 | migiel | with netstat i can't see the program which is using it |
| 21:15.30 | cisee | never remember the different |
| 21:15.30 | slatyim | delire: I double check that |
| 21:15.38 | cisee | migiel: it's probably apache |
| 21:15.39 | bibe | migiel : you have to run it as root |
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| 21:15.42 | neofutur | the only wesnoth in testint is 0.9.x ? |
| 21:15.47 | migiel | cisee: no it isnt |
| 21:15.51 | migiel | bibe: i know |
| 21:15.52 | neofutur | 1.0.2 is the real stable version |
| 21:16.03 | blondie | neither of those do it |
| 21:16.07 | delire | slatyim: eg if your user name on that machine is "slatyim" then it should read: "User_Alias TRUSTED = slatyim" |
| 21:16.20 | beardy | !wiui migiel |
| 21:16.20 | dpkg | migiel: When trying to umount a drive, and it's busy, or just to list which processes uses a certain thing, a device, a port, and so on, run lsof(8) or fuser(1), i e like this 'lsof /dev/cdrom' (as root) to see which process and user that's using it. Also ask me about "fuser" and "lsof" |
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| 21:16.41 | FromTO | everytime I increase the screen resolution, gnome seems to tile the screen any idea why that is |
| 21:16.44 | bibe | migiel : netstat -p "Show the PID and name of the program to which each socket belongs." |
| 21:17.02 | slatyim | delire: hmm added that but it still asks for a passwd |
| 21:17.14 | migiel | right, thanks :) |
| 21:17.21 | eeyore- | bkorb: odd. kernel sees two cores. my guess is to read the /var/log/dmesg to find out the boot messages and see if kernel complains about anything related to dual cores |
| 21:17.23 | delire | slatyim: that's fine, give the password for the user accessing the sudo function. |
| 21:17.32 | delire | slatyim: s/accessing/using |
| 21:17.42 | muttix | netstat -tnap or unap.. Uhhhhmmm |
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| 21:17.57 | bkorb | eeyore: ok. I'll go read that and be back in a bit... |
| 21:18.06 | slatyim | orry, user slatyim is not allowed to execute '/usr/bin/firestarter' as root on localhost |
| 21:18.07 | eeyore- | bkorb: i don't have a dualcore CPU handy, however i do have a number of dual athlons and some opterons in 64-bit mode. i take it you're running in 64-bit from "40 bits physical, 48 bits virtual" message |
| 21:18.16 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: i will try again tomorrow using an lpt cable, maybe see you again then. |
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| 21:18.30 | Koudelkaa | is there a list of suported drivers on debian netinstall amd64? |
| 21:18.39 | rares000 | why is synaptic saying packages not authenticated and where is experimental? |
| 21:18.50 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: why? |
| 21:18.53 | cisee | Koudelkaa: anything in particular you're wondering about ? |
| 21:18.58 | dondelelcaro | rares000: /topic |
| 21:19.02 | delire | slatyim: which order are you putting these lines? first should be the User alias specification, then should be the Command Alias Spec then the User priveledge spec. |
| 21:19.08 | Koudelkaa | nforce 4 |
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| 21:19.11 | dondelelcaro | rares000: if you don't know where experimental is, generally you don't want to be using packages from it. |
| 21:19.17 | Koudelkaa | ethernet driver |
| 21:19.22 | slatyim | delire:okay I had it wrong |
| 21:19.22 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: check out /msg dpkg hpinkjet install |
| 21:19.27 | delire | slatyim: cool. |
| 21:19.35 | mhall | dondelelcaro: VERY true |
| 21:19.43 | cfrancis | Hrm, when I'm running apt-get update it says "there are no public key available for the following key ids: 010908312D230C5f" |
| 21:19.45 | versuchsanstalt | streuner: because one hour at mum's place in the evening is enough for anyone. i'll go home now, maybe i'll peek into the channel from my place in an hour or so |
| 21:19.49 | streuner | versuchsanstalt: and install everything first what mentioned there |
| 21:19.52 | cfrancis | Any ideas how to resolve this? |
| 21:20.20 | bibe | cfrancis : tried /msg dpkg 2006 key ? |
| 21:20.23 | mhall | versuchsanstalt: experimental station? |
| 21:20.30 | mhall | versuchsanstalt: i don't get your nick ;-) |
| 21:20.30 | cisee | wow nice 2.6.15 in amd64 unstable already |
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| 21:20.47 | harley | hi |
| 21:20.51 | mhall | cisee: yeah i need to compile it for x86 |
| 21:20.56 | streuner | mhall: he's trying to get a canon bjc i550 to work |
| 21:20.57 | bkorb | eeyore: In the dmesg file, 7 lines contain "cpu" in any case. One of them is, "Brought up 1 CPUs". |
| 21:20.59 | mhall | cisee: can't use x64 until flash works |
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| 21:21.08 | cisee | mhall: flash works ? |
| 21:21.10 | versuchsanstalt | mhall: correct, "facility" maybe |
| 21:21.15 | mhall | streuner: oof, rugged |
| 21:21.22 | mhall | versuchsanstalt: like, laboratory? |
| 21:21.22 | cisee | i'm super happy because now i can use this sil 3124 |
| 21:21.22 | bkorb | eeyore: none refer to CPU1. Several to CPU0 |
| 21:21.22 | streuner | mhall: his nick is rather crazy even if you are a native german speaker :-) |
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| 21:21.35 | mhall | streuner: ah; glad i'm not alone streuner |
| 21:21.44 | streuner | you don't ;-) |
| 21:21.47 | harley | im turning my server into a router, before when i set it up like, router - eth0 - eth1 - switch it worked fine, now the router is out of the picture and its cable modem - eth0 - eth1 - switch, it doesnt seem to work on the net |
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| 21:21.54 | harley | ive tried pump -i eth0 and no luck |
| 21:21.55 | mhall | cisee: it doesn't work well in general |
| 21:21.58 | eeyore- | bkorb: well, that'd make sense since it's CPU0, but two cores |
| 21:22.01 | versuchsanstalt | mhall: like a bunch of state-funded labs with people who all meet at the cantina every day to discuss their research. |
| 21:22.04 | cisee | mhall: what doesn't ? |
| 21:22.04 | mhall | cisee: but i kind of need it to get things done :-( |
| 21:22.09 | slatyim | delire: what was the command alias and other command you told me before sorry using irssi |
| 21:22.11 | mhall | cisee: flash on amd64 linux |
| 21:22.15 | bibe | bkorb : is your cpu a xeon or ht one? |
| 21:22.16 | cisee | ah macromedia |
| 21:22.19 | mhall | cisee: Java just came out the other day |
| 21:22.21 | blondie | cantina is not a word |
| 21:22.29 | mhall | cisee: so that's available now |
| 21:22.30 | bkorb | My CPU is AMD64x2 |
| 21:22.34 | cisee | mhall: i only have 64 bit servers at the moment no workstations |
| 21:22.36 | gind2 | how would i do a search on anything containing debian on freenode, i try,"list /debian" |
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| 21:22.39 | cisee | boss is cheap =( |
| 21:22.42 | mhall | cisee: yeah i'm on a Turion laptop |
| 21:22.45 | bibe | bkorb : dual core |
| 21:22.48 | eeyore- | bkorb: on my dual opterons, i actually see CPU0 and CPU1, but that's two physical CPU's |
| 21:22.50 | cisee | oh hot one of those acers on newegg ? |
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| 21:22.58 | UnKnowN-school | why is named not in /var/ |
| 21:22.58 | harley | any ideas? |
| 21:23.00 | mhall | cisee: yeah that's just it |
| 21:23.00 | curryrice | amd64x2 + less 4G ram? |
| 21:23.04 | cfrancis | When I try /msg dpkg 2006 key it says no such file or directory |
| 21:23.12 | Koudelkaa | OO |
| 21:23.13 | mhall | cisee: but it's not quite as 1337 and h4x0r as i expected |
| 21:23.15 | boxy | anyone have any experience with the rt2500 drivers in debian/ |
| 21:23.19 | cisee | mhall: i was looking at picking one of those up, whats the downside ? |
| 21:23.22 | mhall | cisee: it broke down and they had to replace the logic board |
| 21:23.31 | mhall | cisee: and the bottom case half |
| 21:23.42 | bibe | !tell cfrancis -about 2006 key |
| 21:23.45 | bkorb | eeyore: this is _supposed_ to behave identically to a dual CPU motherboard. I am _expecting_ to see each core somehow broken out. |
| 21:23.54 | cisee | mhall: oh suck, that wouldn't make me happy |
| 21:23.57 | mhall | cisee: what happened was, i picked it up one handed (i've done this countless times on other laptops and no trouble) and the video went wacky |
| 21:24.12 | mhall | cisee: then i got it to reboot but ever so occasionally wacky video |
| 21:24.17 | mhall | cisee: say once a month |
| 21:24.22 | curryrice | that's like a person in jail with a big sword |
| 21:24.26 | mhall | cisee: then finally, one time, wacky video and no reboot |
| 21:24.38 | Koudelkaa | is there a nforce 4 ethernet driver on debian amd64 netinstall? |
| 21:24.42 | cisee | mhall: i have the video card fritz out on me on my powerbook g4 titanium , drove me crazzyyyy |
| 21:24.46 | versuchsanstalt | see you tomorrow, all, and thanks for helping once again |
| 21:24.50 | Frem | Hey, I'm having a problem with the debian bittorrent package. When I use btdownloadcurses as a user, abolutely nothing happens and I get a message that things have timed out (even when there are 24 seeders). When I run it as root, I get a bunch of python errors. |
| 21:24.50 | bkorb | eeyore - is there a better forum for this where there might be others that have the dual core/single socket mother board? |
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| 21:24.51 | cisee | Koudelkaa: i'm pretty sure there is |
| 21:24.52 | mhall | Koudelkaa: yeah i have got a link for you |
| 21:25.00 | dazzzt | hi! i've installed kde, bud maximum resolution is 800x600..! how can i set up 1024X768? video adapter can support it! |
| 21:25.03 | boxy | is debhelper a bot/ |
| 21:25.06 | boxy | ?* |
| 21:25.08 | eeyore- | bkorb: i don't know of one |
| 21:25.14 | delire | slatyim: i have these lines, in this order to enable me to use vim under sudo: "User_Alias TRUSTED = delire" then "Cmnd_Alias VIM= /usr/bin/vim" then "TRUSTED ALL=VIM" |
| 21:25.16 | boxy | !tell boxy help |
| 21:25.17 | cisee | dazzt: edit your xorg.conf or xfree86 config file |
| 21:25.21 | curryrice | dazzzt : ? |
| 21:25.29 | mhall | Koudelkaa: try this and you will get a real fresh 2.6 with lots of drivers |
| 21:25.29 | bkorb | eeyore: maybe LKML? |
| 21:25.34 | bibe | dazzzt : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-{xfree86,xorg} |
| 21:25.34 | mhall | Koudelkaa: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 21:25.38 | dazzzt | cisee: what exactly to edit? |
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| 21:25.54 | delire | slatyim: maybe a few spaces around '=' in the final line ;) |
| 21:25.56 | mhall | cisee: but the company was very good |
| 21:25.57 | cisee | dazzt: are you running xorg or xfree ? |
| 21:26.07 | dazzzt | ithink xfree |
| 21:26.07 | mhall | cisee: they took it in on a monday with free fedex 3 day |
| 21:26.11 | mhall | cisee: fixed it in a day |
| 21:26.17 | curryrice | umm, xfree > xorg |
| 21:26.18 | cisee | dude very hot, that's rare |
| 21:26.20 | slatyim | delire:okay thanks for the help I keep trying to get this working |
| 21:26.21 | bkorb | eeyore: thank you so much for trying to help. |
| 21:26.27 | delire | slatyim: good luck |
| 21:26.29 | mhall | cisee: then shipped it back free fedex 2day to get it back before christmas at the end of the week |
| 21:26.31 | cisee | curryrice: what are you smoking ? =D |
| 21:26.39 | bibe | dazzzt : so, use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and select the resolution you want |
| 21:26.43 | mhall | cisee: so for having such a problem they really were nice |
| 21:26.51 | mhall | cisee: so i can't get that pissed at them |
| 21:26.55 | cisee | mhall: think it was a fluke or bad case design ? |
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| 21:27.24 | lawnchair | hmm does debian sarge/stable not have tomcat ? |
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| 21:27.29 | lawnchair | i did apt-cache search tomcat and it doesnt show up |
| 21:27.30 | dazzzt | cisee: xfree, i think |
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| 21:28.03 | cisee | dazzt: follow the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 advice, apt-show-versions | grep xfree can verify what you'r erunning |
| 21:28.05 | bibe | lawnchair : it's in contrib, it's named 'tomcat4' |
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| 21:28.10 | lawnchair | bibe, gotcha |
| 21:28.15 | lawnchair | thanks dood |
| 21:28.16 | mhall | lawnchair: it depends on nonfree java |
| 21:28.34 | mhall | lawnchair: just fix sources.list, grab the linux JDK bin file (not RPM) and java-package package |
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| 21:28.44 | mhall | lawnchair: then run make-jpkg on the bin file |
| 21:28.49 | goran | caoooooooooo |
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| 21:28.53 | bibe | mhall : you can use it with kaffe |
| 21:28.55 | cisee | lawnchair: msg dpkg java |
| 21:28.57 | mhall | lawnchair: and you'll get a .deb in the same dir that has java in it |
| 21:29.03 | mhall | lawnchair: then dpkg -i that |
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| 21:29.12 | dazzzt | cisee: but how will it help me, wwhen i'll know what i'm using |
| 21:29.12 | lawnchair | woah just wondering about tomcat |
| 21:29.14 | lawnchair | thanks :) |
| 21:29.18 | mhall | bibe: yeah and i argue kaffe is a superior implementation |
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| 21:29.29 | mhall | lawnchair: yeah i assumed you'd also want java or it wouldn't work |
| 21:29.33 | lawnchair | yah hehe |
| 21:29.38 | cisee | dazzzt: dpkg-reconfigure will walk you through reconfiguring your xserver and will have an option to set the available resolutions |
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| 21:29.40 | lawnchair | mhall, so if i grab java from sun dot com and tomcat all is well? |
| 21:29.43 | mhall | bibe: problem is, most people expect bug for bug compatibility with Sun |
| 21:29.53 | mhall | lawnchair: wtf dude i just said how to get java to work |
| 21:30.02 | cisee | heh |
| 21:30.07 | lawnchair | mhall, no need to get testy |
| 21:30.09 | cisee | just have him /msg dpkg java it gives instructions |
| 21:30.12 | dazzzt | cisee: thanks a lot, i'll try |
| 21:30.13 | mhall | lawnchair: grab the bin file (not the RPM in bin file) and java-package package, then run make-jpg on the bin file |
| 21:30.16 | mhall | f0ck |
| 21:30.20 | lawnchair | oh thats what you mean |
| 21:30.22 | bibe | mhall : I know, I have to use JDK on several servers... :-S |
| 21:30.22 | lawnchair | y ah i know all that |
| 21:30.23 | lawnchair | gracias |
| 21:30.27 | mhall | how much more helpful could i possibly be |
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| 21:30.27 | cisee | dazzzt: np |
| 21:30.34 | lawnchair | mhall, wanna kiss? |
| 21:30.43 | mhall | lawnchair: </troll> |
| 21:30.49 | lawnchair | mhall, </fag> |
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| 21:31.18 | mhall | ah, peace and quiet :-D |
| 21:31.26 | lawnchair | ah, peace and quiet :) |
| 21:31.47 | cisee | hrm i need a small box with 4 nics to put in a wiring closet, any recommendations |
| 21:31.56 | mhall | hmm |
| 21:31.59 | streuner | lawnchair: give up on that one, you'll loose |
| 21:32.01 | pipeline | cisee: soekris |
| 21:32.09 | cisee | pipeline: need more power |
| 21:32.24 | cisee | has to do a decent amount of vpn traffic |
| 21:32.44 | mhall | cisee: you probably want a rackmount opteron |
| 21:32.57 | mhall | cisee: and they make PCI and PCI-X multinic cards |
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| 21:33.02 | cisee | hrm could put a wall rack in, stupid closer is like 1 x 4 |
| 21:33.05 | eeyore- | java is gay |
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| 21:33.12 | eeyore- | there, i said it |
| 21:33.12 | pipeline | cisee: You didn't say anything about needing power. |
| 21:33.14 | cisee | yeah i've seen the intel 4 ports, have a bunch of adaptect 4 ports |
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| 21:33.15 | mhall | cisee: needn't mount it into the rack |
| 21:33.20 | cisee | pipeline: touche |
| 21:33.28 | streuner | hm |
| 21:33.28 | mhall | cisee: it's just, then you will have a small durable case |
| 21:33.34 | pipeline | cisee: I think soekris about maxes out the price versus size tradeoff :P |
| 21:33.50 | cisee | pipeline: yeah it's close, i'm a fan of the commell boxes too |
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| 21:34.02 | pipeline | cisee: A lot of vendors will sell you a 1U rackmount with 2 or four on-board gigE ports. |
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| 21:34.28 | cisee | yeah checking what siliconmechanics does, i've worked with them in the past, anyone have a fav. rackmount vendor ? |
| 21:34.30 | eeyore- | cisee: why do you need it, though? |
| 21:34.53 | cisee | eeyore-: ceo bought a new building without a wiring closet and is being unreasonable |
| 21:35.15 | mhall | cisee: hahaha |
| 21:35.20 | eeyore- | cisee: but that doesn't explain why you need something with multiple ports |
| 21:35.23 | mhall | cisee: well make him pay then :-) |
| 21:35.29 | eeyore- | cisee: routing? |
| 21:35.30 | mhall | eeyore-: VPN was mentioned |
| 21:35.38 | mhall | eeyore-: that can eat ports like a motherfucker |
| 21:35.40 | cisee | eeyore-: oh it's my fw, need a subnet for sales, engineering and production |
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| 21:35.50 | eeyore- | mhall: but you could just buy a VPN access point ... |
| 21:35.59 | pipeline | eeyore-: access points are usually slower than shit. |
| 21:36.05 | cisee | heh, wouldn't that be easy |
| 21:36.08 | mhall | eeyore-: they have licensing problems, bad ciphers, and user limits |
| 21:36.10 | pipeline | eeyore-: VPN is just cheaper to do with an actual PC |
| 21:36.12 | cisee | guy i work with develops for the isakmpd project so we use that |
| 21:36.29 | mhall | eeyore-: and they'd nearly cost more than a dual opteron box even without the routing capability |
| 21:36.38 | mhall | cisee: haha, perfect, you're in like flint |
| 21:36.45 | eeyore- | do-it-yourself boxes fail the bus test :-) |
| 21:36.49 | cisee | i won't use cisco vpn boxes anymore |
| 21:36.59 | dazzzt | cisee: how to know bus id? |
| 21:37.00 | eeyore- | it's ok if you wanna be married to your job ... |
| 21:37.15 | abrotman | dazzzt: leave it blank |
| 21:37.17 | mhall | eeyore-: yeah but after shitty vpn experiences people learn that sometimes it must be accepted |
| 21:37.22 | cisee | dazzzt: yeah leave blank |
| 21:37.29 | pipeline | eeyore-: Well, in that case, you buy a full-fledged expensive-as-fuck system. The VPNs you can get at a reasonable price are utter shit. |
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| 21:37.36 | Ann1 | Guten Abend |
| 21:37.43 | abrotman | english? |
| 21:37.47 | pipeline | eeyore-: I mean, people hire system administrators with the explicit purpose of having a computer guy married to his job. That's what they pay'em for :| |
| 21:38.11 | cisee | i run a few site to site vpns on openbsd systems that boot from cd, never had any issues really |
| 21:38.36 | mhall | !tell Ann1 about german |
| 21:38.36 | nuskool | does anyone have an ATI TV wonder usb 2.0 working on their box? |
| 21:38.37 | Estes2 | Anyone know about documentation about how to chroot an interative session ? |
| 21:38.41 | eeyore- | cisee: but ok, back to case vendor ... i like KRI computers. they've been good. www.servercases.com |
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| 21:38.51 | mhall | Ann1: hallo, hier sprechen wir auf Englisch |
| 21:38.51 | cisee | nice thx |
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| 21:38.55 | eeyore- | cisee: SOCAL |
| 21:39.07 | Ann1 | mhall... saw it.. ;-) |
| 21:39.28 | mhall | Ann1: hopefully you would ;-) |
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| 21:40.17 | eeyore- | cisee: you're set on 1U cases? |
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| 21:40.24 | Ann1 | first, don't hurt me... i'm using suse 9.3pro on a root server@strato rz, so i could noch install debian automaticly... how could i do it? |
| 21:40.33 | delire | hehe |
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| 21:40.37 | csch | hi guys |
| 21:40.49 | Ann1 | noch ? not |
| 21:40.51 | cisee | eeyore-: would prefer 1u due to space constraints |
| 21:40.54 | michael__ | hi MessItAllUp |
| 21:40.56 | csch | i'm trying to configure a imap server to autenticate qmail users |
| 21:41.00 | eeyore- | cisee: because, honestly, for 1U, you're *much* better off buying a dell or ibm eserver 1U's ... the quality of metalwork, the stiffness, cable routing, airflow management, etc. are just better than off-the-shelf 1U |
| 21:41.05 | mhall | Ann1: hehe there is user mode linux |
| 21:41.21 | mhall | Ann1: and sometimes you can find a company willing to do one with debian |
| 21:41.27 | csch | I changed some parameters in imapd config file but not work |
| 21:41.37 | csch | someone can help me ? |
| 21:41.39 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: depends on the OTS model |
| 21:41.43 | eeyore- | cisee: there's no way i can put together off-the-shelf 1U that's as good as (overall) a decent 1U eserver from ibm, for example |
| 21:41.45 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: some of the OTS are quite good |
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| 21:42.21 | mhall | Ann1: other than that, you are depending on the company to have sympathy and install debian or ubuntu or kubuntu or something |
| 21:42.21 | cisee | eeyore-: yeah i'm tired of building machines myself for server environments, i've worked a lot with siliconmechanics in the past, perhaps ill look at ibm, i hate how dell swaps out hardware |
| 21:42.25 | mhall | Ann1: or grin and bear it |
| 21:42.33 | Ann1 | mhall... i asked support 4 help but thex wrote me: Dazu müssten Sie dann schon ein Minimalimage installieren, über das Sie dann die gewünschten Pakete beziehen würden. (Leider können wir Ihnen hierfür auch keine Anleitung zur Verfügung stellen.) |
| 21:43.00 | dazzzt | but where to know monitor sync? |
| 21:43.04 | dazzzt | but where to know monitor horizontal sync? |
| 21:43.21 | charon | I want to use a command line mail client to check my gmail account...I don't want to download all the messages...I just want to see message subject and who it is from etc.(I am on a 10kbit connection)...what is the best mail client to use? |
| 21:43.22 | cisee | just guess |
| 21:43.42 | dazzzt | hmm.. but i have no idea what is that |
| 21:43.54 | benjamindees | charon, mutt with pop3 |
| 21:43.55 | petemc | charon: what you need requires imap, and google dont offer that |
| 21:43.59 | charon | dazzzt: On the manufacturer of your monitor's website. ie www.dell.com etc |
| 21:44.00 | eeyore- | cisee: totally off-the-wall, wack idea. www.protocase.com |
| 21:44.04 | mhall | Ann1: let's see, so they said you must have installed a minimal image over which you then could install the desired packages |
| 21:44.06 | benjamindees | charon, oops, yeah you need imap, not pop3 |
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| 21:44.16 | eeyore- | cisee: i want to use their cases for mounting under-bed and in the car :-) |
| 21:44.18 | cisee | eeyore-: oh looks hot |
| 21:44.31 | charon | gmail doesn't offer imap...I thought gmail was the best? |
| 21:44.43 | petemc | best is relative |
| 21:44.49 | mhall | Ann1: unfortunately we cannot provide guidance or directions |
| 21:44.51 | benjamindees | charon, most don't even offer pop3 |
| 21:44.52 | petemc | not many free providers do offer imap |
| 21:44.54 | eeyore- | cisee: they'll do custom lasercut :-) |
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| 21:45.05 | Ann1 | but HOW? in my control center i only could choose between Suse9.3pro 4 Pro's or Suse9.3pro with ServerAdmin24 |
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| 21:45.13 | mhall | Ann1: but i'm not quite following the minimal image part |
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| 21:45.35 | eeyore- | check out the custom mini-itx enclosure, http://www.protocase.com/products/mini-itx/default.asp?id=mini |
| 21:45.37 | mhall | Ann1: the trick i suppose would be finding some way to boot it differently than usual |
| 21:45.53 | opensores | When I print I see things like "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" "%Creator: Gnome Print Version", etc. how do I make it print correctly? |
| 21:45.55 | mhall | Ann1: is there some way to boot it from an iso and control the console on a terminal server or ... |
| 21:45.58 | petemc | charon: have a google and see if any enterprising hacker has found some funky way to do what you require |
| 21:46.17 | Ann1 | mhall i have no dedicated console... |
| 21:46.31 | mhall | charon: ok one trick is that gmail has settings for what its POP stuff *does* |
| 21:46.40 | eeyore- | charon: even netscape mail supports imap. try evolution. |
| 21:46.40 | cisee | eeyore-: i'm thinking http://www.siliconmechanics.com/i4458/1u-opteron.php |
| 21:46.48 | mhall | Ann1: yeah without the console it'd be hard to install other than the allowable images |
| 21:47.10 | mhall | Ann1: because how would you control then the installer, right? |
| 21:47.23 | petemc | eeyore-: the problem is the server not doing imap, not the client |
| 21:47.31 | Ann1 | damn it... i don'T want to spend 18month with super cool suse |
| 21:47.44 | csch | stew: i'm still have that problem with imap server |
| 21:47.52 | eeyore- | cisee: how thick is the metal? |
| 21:47.53 | csch | stew: can you help me please ? |
| 21:47.55 | mhall | Ann1: well maybe you should of thought of that *before* getting the contract? |
| 21:47.59 | Ann1 | mhall... your right... |
| 21:48.26 | cisee | eeyore-: hrm no idea, the other models i've bought from them 2-3mm |
| 21:48.33 | eeyore- | cisee: i'd ask to see how they arrange the front face ... oftentimes they put the slim cd next to floppy, and that's really bad for stiffness. some of them will sag and prevents the CD from popping out |
| 21:48.38 | cisee | i dropped one 10 feet one time, no real displacement |
| 21:48.46 | mhall | Ann1: it sucks but you'll probably have to find a SuSE book and read up |
| 21:48.55 | mhall | Ann1: should bet a lot of German ones for easy reading |
| 21:48.59 | cisee | fared better than the x330 i dropped out of the track |
| 21:48.59 | charon | eeyore-: evolution is command line? |
| 21:49.06 | eeyore- | charon: no, GUI |
| 21:49.14 | charon | eeyore-: I don't have X server. |
| 21:49.20 | efaistos | in which group i must add a user to be able to burn cd with nautilus-cd-burner .... it says that I dont have the permissions |
| 21:49.38 | mhall | cisee: does that box have sufficient netcards |
| 21:49.46 | Ann1 | mhall... en is not the prob... my blond hairs and my tits ar the probs... nobody trusts me... |
| 21:49.49 | charon | efaistos: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord |
| 21:49.57 | cisee | mhall: 2 integrated broadcom 5704 and ill configure it with a dual port intel pro mt |
| 21:49.59 | stew | csch: debian's courier package doesn't support vchkpasswd as is, you need to rebuild the pacakge, /msg dpkg source ; /msg dpkg debian/rules |
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| 21:50.43 | eeyore- | i like the sunfire ... 4 GigE ports :-) and they finally got rid of that stupid 25-pin serial console |
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| 21:50.53 | ralfWORK | heh |
| 21:51.12 | Ann1 | ok guys, im out, bye |
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| 21:51.15 | prock | is there a way to find the list of possible parameters (to pass via modprobe) for a module (psmouse in this case) |
| 21:51.18 | prock | ? |
| 21:51.23 | eeyore- | prock: modinfo |
| 21:51.30 | noideaatall | hi is it possible, or is there an application to display images on bash .... when the machine is not running X server ? |
| 21:51.30 | prock | eeyore-: thanks :) |
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| 21:51.48 | eeyore- | noideaatall: aalib |
| 21:51.48 | charon | Is there a good command line program for burning...(not cdrecord...like ncurses or something) |
| 21:51.50 | nevyn | noideaatall: yes |
| 21:51.53 | mhall | cisee: that'll work, broadcoms are fast, same to intel |
| 21:52.00 | mhall | cisee: esp. with apic enabled and tricked out 2.6 |
| 21:52.01 | nevyn | noideaatall: look at zgv |
| 21:52.01 | noideaatall | mevyn: how ? |
| 21:52.22 | eeyore- | mhall: but broadcomm has no opensource drivers |
| 21:52.36 | mhall | eeyore-: *ETHERNET* |
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| 21:52.56 | beardy | charon: What's wrong with cdrecord? |
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| 21:53.02 | eeyore- | they have drivers for ethernet? :-) |
| 21:53.06 | NOthsouth | Ok so , what is the problem for debian mplayer open .sub files for wath movies with subtitles??? |
| 21:53.18 | mhall | eeyore-: yes and in kernel to boot |
| 21:53.19 | eeyore- | oh i guess i see some around in the kernel config :-) nm |
| 21:53.20 | benjamindees | eeyore-, they do actually |
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| 21:53.37 | beardy | NOthsouth: mplayer is not in Debian |
| 21:53.45 | eeyore- | i've just been ignoring broadcomm on the wireless front for so long |
| 21:53.46 | prock | My touchpad on my laptop is hanging after 1 second of inactivity. For example, if I rmmod and modprobe psmouse... I can use the touchpad for as long as want but if I stop using it for a second or more then I can't use it until I reload the module... any ideas? |
| 21:53.57 | mhall | eeyore-: please see http://www.broadcom.com/support/ethernet_nic/downloaddrivers.php |
| 21:54.12 | NOthsouth | i just can`t open .sub with mplyaer |
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| 21:54.18 | charon | beardy: I don't want to write a book when I have to burn a cd. |
| 21:54.27 | beardy | NOthsouth: What happens, or what error do you get then? |
| 21:54.31 | mhall | eeyore-: and there is a reversed opensource driver for wireless |
| 21:54.36 | eeyore- | prock: no idea. maybe your bios has some fancy-pants option for it or something. |
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| 21:54.37 | mhall | eeyore-: bcm43xx.berlios.de |
| 21:54.46 | NOthsouth | beardy, no error, it just don`t load .. |
| 21:54.53 | mhall | eeyore-: i haven't got it all the way working yet so don't read this as a glowing endorsement |
| 21:54.56 | beardy | charon: You don't have to, if you find it that hard, do it good once and put it in a script. |
| 21:55.05 | eeyore- | mhall: nah :-) i stick with IPW |
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| 21:55.22 | NOthsouth | beardy, if I try to load manualy, mplayer stop the movie, and try to play the .sub alone!! |
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| 21:55.41 | beardy | NOthsouth: You're not using the correct option then. |
| 21:55.42 | jsn | Great topic, thanks for answering my question. |
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| 21:56.10 | NOthsouth | beardy, i`m not using option, i`m using GUI |
| 21:56.15 | mhall | eeyore-: right-o; i would too if given the choice |
| 21:56.15 | benjamindees | charon, looks like there's cdw, haven't tried it |
| 21:56.27 | beardy | NOthsouth: "mplayer foo.foo -sub bar.sub" IIRC, -sub is the option |
| 21:56.28 | mhall | eeyore-: i use atheros cardbus |
| 21:56.34 | mhall | eeyore-: and am hoping to internalize |
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| 21:58.05 | eeyore- | have to look at prism54.org again, hopefully i can get support for my revision-2 softmac card |
| 21:58.23 | outlaw84 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.48 | csch | stew: there is another imap server that I can use with qmail ? |
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| 21:59.25 | stew | csch: you could check to see of dovecot supports it. it is easy however to rebuild courier |
| 21:59.46 | beta_ | Remember that it must support maildir.. |
| 21:59.53 | beardy | charon: I agree that a curses wrapper for cdrecord would be a nice thing, for the sake of itself at least, I'm not aware of any though. cdrecords manual is quite good, and it's not that hard after you've used it a few times |
| 21:59.59 | stew | dovecot supports maildir |
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| 22:01.49 | charon | thanks beardy cdw looks good. |
| 22:01.58 | cisee | anyone succesfully grow a raid5 array with mdadm (go from 3 to 4 or 5 active disks) ? |
| 22:02.08 | Azar | hmm say I want to save all my directories/files on a cd should I use > redirection for that/ |
| 22:02.11 | Azar | > |
| 22:02.12 | csch | stew: i'm trying rebuild courier, but get an error |
| 22:02.16 | csch | E: Package libmysqlclient-dev has no installation candidate |
| 22:02.21 | csch | E: Failed to process build dependencies |
| 22:02.33 | cisee | Azar: mkisofs |
| 22:02.47 | Azar | cisee, huh, thanks |
| 22:02.53 | CleatoN | strange seems like my abit kn8 ultra with nforce 4 dosent have a ethernet driver on debian :/ |
| 22:02.59 | boxy | hey i can't get my wifi to work, using rt2500 |
| 22:03.25 | Nirgal | boxy: I use rt2500 |
| 22:03.32 | boxy | awesome Nirgal |
| 22:03.37 | Azar | Cleaton you have to find the generic name to identify the module for it |
| 22:03.37 | boxy | which card do you use with it? |
| 22:04.00 | opensores | When I print I see things like "%!PS-Adobe-3.0" "%Creator: Gnome Print Version", etc. how do I make it print correctly? I'm using an Epson C62 |
| 22:04.03 | benjamindees | CleatoN, that's not strange at all, the nforce chipset has awful Linux support... |
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| 22:04.39 | boxy | Nirgal im using a WMP54G linksys i had it working perfectly in ubuntu but i didnt like ubuntu hehe so now im with debian |
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| 22:04.50 | Azar | Cleaton what kernel version are you using? what Debian version? |
| 22:04.55 | prock | My touchpad on my laptop is hanging after 1 second of inactivity. For example, if I rmmod and modprobe psmouse... I can use the touchpad for as long as want but if I stop using it for a second or more then I can't use it until I reload the module... any ideas? |
| 22:05.00 | mhall | opensores: you need CUPS and GIMP Print |
| 22:05.09 | mhall | opensores: please see linuxprinting.org also |
| 22:05.19 | stew | csch: install libmysqlclient10-dev and try again |
| 22:05.19 | Nirgal | boxy: well, I haven't full configured it, so don't get too happy too soon, but I see beacons, that's a good start. lspci repport a "RaLink Ralink RT2500 802.11 Cardbus Reference Card" |
| 22:05.21 | boxy | Nirgal the rt2500 drivers in "unstable" isn't pulling up my card, and the drivers off their site cant seem to connect to my router |
| 22:05.35 | mhall | opensores: additionally you will need a lot of unpredictable ancilliary tools such as ghostscript and a2ps |
| 22:05.42 | Nirgal | boxy: use module-assistant |
| 22:05.47 | boxy | aight |
| 22:06.00 | opensores | I got my printer working in Fedora, so shouldn't be too much trouble |
| 22:06.36 | opensores | mhall |
| 22:06.37 | LillDude_10 | what printer? |
| 22:06.54 | CleatoN | Azar, tried both debian 3,1 netinstall and debian amd64 net install same problem in both |
| 22:06.54 | Nirgal | boxy: aight? (english isn't my native language) |
| 22:07.18 | boxy | Nirgal, alright heh sorry its okay |
| 22:07.18 | mhall | opensores: you'd be surprised |
| 22:07.24 | opensores | heh |
| 22:07.25 | mhall | opensores: UNIX printing is a pile of fuckuppage |
| 22:07.27 | Nirgal | do you use module-assistant package? |
| 22:07.33 | boxy | Nirgal one second please ima reinstall the drivers off their site |
| 22:07.38 | Azar | CleatoN is about which kernel are you using if you use 2.4.x kernels you have less hardware support try goin up to the precompiled 2.6.8 |
| 22:07.39 | mhall | opensores: Fedora masks it and Debian chooses to expose it more |
| 22:07.41 | cisee | clean: did you boot 2.6 ? |
| 22:07.51 | boxy | Nirgal yes i did use module-assistant i dont have a problem installing it its just under iwconfig my card isnt showing up |
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| 22:08.08 | CleatoN | amd64 was 2.6 i think |
| 22:08.14 | Nirgal | boxy: modprobe rt2500 runs ok? |
| 22:08.15 | Azar | CleatoN after installing with 2.6.x. or upgrading to 2.6.x you can find the module you need with modconf |
| 22:08.34 | Azar | CleatoN uname -a see wht version |
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| 22:08.58 | LillDude_10 | whats good printer |
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| 22:09.07 | Azar | the 2.6.x kernel versions support more hardware than the original Debian install kernel 2.4.x |
| 22:09.13 | CleatoN | i have to quit irc to boot, is there a way i can check the iso? |
| 22:09.21 | outlaw84 | I did a dist-upgrade yesterday and then since I cant finish a boot in "normal" mode, I can only boot in single user mode if I try to the system boots untill X.org is suppose to start and there everything just hangs... the computer completely locks... What should I do? |
| 22:09.22 | kitty__ | can someone tell me how to find out what audio chip im using... please |
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| 22:09.30 | Azar | CleatoN, in a terminal type uname -a |
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| 22:09.47 | CleatoN | in windows atm |
| 22:09.59 | stew | outlaw84: have you checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 22:10.05 | stew | outlaw84: or dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? |
| 22:10.08 | Azar | bleh ok when you come back state your Debian version and your Kernel version |
| 22:10.39 | CleatoN | cant i just check on the site? |
| 22:10.41 | CleatoN | debian-31r0a-amd64-netinst |
| 22:10.45 | CleatoN | thats the one i use |
| 22:10.50 | Azar | people seeking advice for hardware configurations: State your Debian version and your Kernel version FIRST |
| 22:11.17 | Azar | Cleaton is ok now you have to find out your Kernel version |
| 22:11.19 | boxy | Nirgal right now i cant seem to get it to come up at all |
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| 22:11.25 | outlaw84 | stew: nothing in Xorg.0.log.... In fact I deleted every log afterwords in /var/log to chech which logs are generated at a boot and there is no X.org-log there no |
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| 22:11.28 | benjamindees | kitty__, lspci|grep udio |
| 22:11.38 | Nirgal | boxy: here, modprobe rt2500 repports " ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:07.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11" you should have something simmilar I guess? After that, the interface shows up with "ifconfig -a" |
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| 22:11.50 | kitty__ | im not using debian im using ubuntu but no one will help me... |
| 22:12.01 | benjamindees | kitty__, try #ubuntu |
| 22:12.02 | Nirgal | boxy: repports in syslog I mean |
| 22:12.03 | mhall | kitty__: yeah and we sure won't |
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| 22:12.17 | mhall | kitty__: sorry but ubuntu puts hack patches on their stuff |
| 22:12.19 | Azar | kitty__ here is only debian help, not unbutu help |
| 22:12.23 | zinosat | I'm trying to set up ddns on my wag54g linksys modem/router. I created an account on dyndns.org and after I feed the data in the router I get "The hostname does not exist". How can I verify which hostname I sould use? |
| 22:12.40 | CleatoN | Azar, ok brb |
| 22:13.00 | ccidral | Hi all. I need help with sound system. The /dev/dsp does not exist anymore, although it existed some days ago. |
| 22:13.03 | boxy | Nirgal i tryed that one sec ima try a differant driver |
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| 22:13.47 | eeyore- | kitty: lspci |
| 22:13.54 | eeyore- | oh well |
| 22:14.08 | LeoNerd | I'm currently fiddling with make-kpkg and dput; my first problem is that make-kpkg is not generating a .changes file for dput to use |
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| 22:14.34 | LeoNerd | How might I achieve that? |
| 22:14.57 | Psi-Jack | Hey guys. I've a curious question. Anyone know about the Surround sound support of ALSA for emu10k1 sound cards off hand? |
| 22:15.13 | LeoNerd | I have and use one, yes... What's the question? |
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| 22:15.47 | Psi-Jack | Does ALSA support 5.1 through Digital (SPDIF), or can it do analog surround as well, through the dual channel outputs? |
| 22:16.05 | LeoNerd | I believe it can do either; depending on the options when you modprobe it |
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| 22:16.38 | stew | Psi-Jack: it can do either, and you can switch that stuff around using alsamixer |
| 22:16.40 | Psi-Jack | Oh? Nice.. I was curious about that. Either way, the hardware itself supports doing both ways. I was wondering if ALSA actually was able to do it. :) |
| 22:17.07 | jair | guys, good afternoon |
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| 22:17.18 | boxy | Nirgal brb i need to restart for w/e reason my wifi isnt even powered up |
| 22:17.22 | Psi-Jack | How about software-wise, for making use of it? Like for example DVD playing software? Would it have to have specific support for surround sound? |
| 22:17.22 | jair | how could I test my ttySHF0 = modem??? |
| 22:17.33 | jair | I have the modem integrated in a IBM laptop |
| 22:17.37 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: SPDIF is just an interface. the datastream isn't addressed by ALSA |
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| 22:17.40 | stew | Psi-Jack: yes it needs specific support, but its there |
| 22:17.53 | stew | eeyore-: sure it is |
| 22:17.53 | csch | stew: I get the sources |
| 22:18.13 | csch | now what I need to do to enable vchkpw on courier |
| 22:18.17 | LeoNerd | jair: could you throw AT commands at it? |
| 22:18.22 | Psi-Jack | Excelent. I've noticed pretty much all my hardware I use, is now directly (and indirectly), supported by Linux, even my webcam is /FINALLY/ supported. heh. |
| 22:18.45 | stew | csch: edit debian rules, change --without-authvchkpw to --with-authvchkpw |
| 22:18.45 | jair | and when i check the information about the conf. of the modem it shows me that is configured in the "/dev/ttySHFHo |
| 22:19.00 | jair | LeoNerd, what do you mean? |
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| 22:19.13 | eeyore- | stew: what do you mean? |
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| 22:19.26 | jair | LeoNerd, I know that is configured like that and I have a phone line available to test it |
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| 22:19.30 | LeoNerd | jair: open it in minicom and try to throw some AT commands at it |
| 22:19.41 | Psi-Jack | I may just have to toss together a debian installation on a spare HD to see how well everything can work these days. |
| 22:19.48 | stew | eeyore-: well what do you mean by alsa doesn't address spdif? if he doesn't alter his alsa seetings to turn on spdif he will get no spdif output |
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| 22:20.30 | jair | LeoNerd, like what? |
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| 22:20.38 | eeyore- | stew: i mean the multichannel sound stream mixing |
| 22:20.39 | Psi-Jack | stew: I don't use SPDIF, anyway. I use analog-based 4.1 audio. I don't yet have a 5th decent speaker setup to use for full 5.1. heh |
| 22:20.50 | csch | stew: ok |
| 22:20.59 | LeoNerd | jair: like AT... Go read about AT commands for controlling modems.. They're pretty standard |
| 22:21.01 | csch | stew: and after this ? |
| 22:21.11 | Psi-Jack | In fact, I have 2 fronts, 2 rears, a subwoofer, using a small tap hookup to do the sub properly. |
| 22:21.16 | jair | LeoNerd, ok AT modem commands ;) |
| 22:21.19 | pipeline | Surround sound is crap :P |
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| 22:21.29 | stew | csch: /msg dpkg debian/rules ; /msg dpkg source |
| 22:21.41 | Psi-Jack | pipeline: Only someone that just doesn't know, would say that. :) |
| 22:21.49 | jair | LeoNerd, I will need to configure the modem and give it a Phone # right in order to test it. |
| 22:21.58 | pipeline | Psi-Jack: Well, when you find some source material that's honest to god discrete, I'll consider it. |
| 22:22.04 | LeoNerd | Not at all |
| 22:22.07 | pipeline | Psi-Jack: Until then, I'll stick to stereo. |
| 22:22.11 | LeoNerd | jair: AT commands are _how_ you control the modem |
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| 22:22.20 | joeyy | joey@nsevil:~/Unreal3.2$ make install |
| 22:22.20 | joeyy | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 22:22.21 | pipeline | Psi-Jack: Halfassed dolby DTS crap like you find on DVDs makes far rather uninspiring surround. |
| 22:22.24 | LeoNerd | Open it as a serial line and just send commands at it. That's how they work |
| 22:22.36 | joeyy | what do i need to install to make - make work |
| 22:22.42 | blondie | :o a LeoNerd |
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| 22:22.59 | LeoNerd | blondie: afternoon |
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| 22:23.06 | blondie | hi |
| 22:23.29 | Psi-Jack | How's Linux's DVD+-RW burning support these days? |
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| 22:23.45 | ale_ryu | hey guys, I'm having a little problem here: |
| 22:23.47 | ale_ryu | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 22:23.47 | ale_ryu | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 22:24.00 | csch | stew: I need to use fakeroot right ? |
| 22:24.02 | ale_ryu | that's what I get when running apt-get update |
| 22:24.02 | devon | hey guys... whats a good hw stress test package? |
| 22:24.04 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: sufficient, k3b |
| 22:24.09 | stefan_ | is there a recomendation of minimum free discspace on the system volume? |
| 22:24.11 | LeoNerd | ale_ryu: as root; gpg --recv-key [the key id] |
| 22:24.20 | LeoNerd | gpg --armor --export [key id] | apt-key add - |
| 22:24.27 | jcdubacq | hello |
| 22:24.29 | ale_ryu | ok |
| 22:24.32 | outlaw84 | I did a dist-upgrade yesterday and then since I cant finish a boot in "normal" mode, I can only boot in single user mode if I try to the system boots untill X.org is suppose to start and there everything just hangs... the computer completely locks... What should I do? |
| 22:24.38 | ale_ryu | where do I get the key Id? |
| 22:24.41 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Nice. :) |
| 22:24.43 | csch | stew: but if I have root access I need this ? |
| 22:24.44 | stew | csch: /msg dpkg debian/rules |
| 22:24.49 | LeoNerd | ale_ryu: that long number it printed |
| 22:24.56 | ale_ryu | okay |
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| 22:24.57 | ale_ryu | thanks! |
| 22:25.01 | stew | csch: you shouldn't build stuff as root |
| 22:25.11 | Koudelkaa | Azar, i got 2.6.8-11 amd64 generic |
| 22:25.16 | beardy | outlaw84: Locks? What have you tried to convince it that it's not locked? |
| 22:25.17 | jcdubacq | running gnome 2.12 under unstable. Should I use the dbus (experimental) or dbus-1 (unstable) package? |
| 22:25.18 | luke_ | Psi-Jack, Linux has moved on a lot since the dal net days ;) |
| 22:25.30 | jcdubacq | If I use dbus-1 gnome-volume-manager does not start |
| 22:25.32 | csch | stew: so what user I must use |
| 22:25.36 | Nirgal | ale_ryu: Please check the topic |
| 22:25.45 | stefan_ | is there a recomendation of minimum free discspace on the system volume? |
| 22:25.53 | outlaw84 | beardy: ssh to it.. press ctrl + alt + f1... none of it works |
| 22:25.54 | eeyore- | stefan_: depends on what you install |
| 22:25.59 | stew | csch: "csch", anything but root |
| 22:26.07 | Psi-Jack | luke_: Heh, yeah. I've been out of the loop. I'm actually glad to see /all/ of my hardware supported for once. My Pinnacle PCTV Rave, ViewQuest Technologies M-318B webcam, emu10k1 with full surround, etc.. |
| 22:26.23 | beardy | outlaw84: And anyway, what do you expect if you're upgrading to unstable? Things will break, if not now, then sometime later. |
| 22:26.34 | stefan_ | eeyore, but after programs is installed.. how full can I make it before it's "critical" to the system.. |
| 22:26.35 | stew | outlaw84: what x driver are you using? |
| 22:26.43 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: you'll get better luck with surround (assuming you make your own streams and not, e.g., forwarding AC3/DTS streams) with analog |
| 22:26.46 | outlaw84 | stew: radeon |
| 22:26.49 | luke_ | yea, I noticed the same, leave the OS for a bit and it really starts to mature. |
| 22:26.58 | stew | outlaw84: checked the bts? |
| 22:27.24 | eeyore- | stefan_: the answer is "it depends". the things that increase space in / are /tmp and /var, so ... if you keep them under control, sure |
| 22:27.28 | csch | stew: that command will create only the package right ? |
| 22:27.32 | ale_ryu | it's not working! |
| 22:27.41 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: I see. That's perfect, because everything I encode, myself, I keep the AC3 stream, and just xvid the video stream. |
| 22:27.43 | csch | after build I need to reinstall it |
| 22:27.44 | eeyore- | stefan_: /tmp gets cleared every reboot, but /var can potentially keep growing (/var/log/utmp, for example) |
| 22:27.51 | outlaw84 | stew: I suspect that Xorg doesn't even get started... no X.org-log seams to be renerated anymore |
| 22:27.57 | stew | outlaw84: are you sure x is the problem? it is odd that is isn't even creating a log file, maybe try disabling your dm and seeing if you can get it to boot in runlevel2 |
| 22:28.03 | stew | csch: yes |
| 22:28.23 | Azar | Koudelkaa: all you need to do now is type lspci identify your modem name then run modconf and select your module for it |
| 22:28.46 | stefan_ | eeyore-, ok but it's no risk that the system runs slower if I have for example 0.5bg free compared to 5gb free? |
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| 22:29.15 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Speaking of which... Do you have any personal suggestions for DVD ripping in Linux? My intent is to pretty much copy DVD's to the HD to my media server which streams video over the network on-demand. Generally I use Xvid, AC3 or Ogg (depending on the number of channels, Ogg for just 2-channel), and MKV container. |
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| 22:29.21 | Koudelkaa | Azar, in shell? |
| 22:29.21 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
| 22:29.37 | Azar | Koudelkaa: yes as root |
| 22:29.45 | csch | stew: ok, after install the rebuilt package I need to change something in configuration ? |
| 22:29.54 | marc_in_lux | how can I make grub read another menu.lst, not the one in /boot/grub? |
| 22:30.05 | outlaw84 | stew: how do I disable my display-manager? I got xdm right now.. I use to have kdm but which now during my atempts to fix the problem |
| 22:30.08 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: i just use dvd-rip :-) i haven't decided between keeping the raw mpeg .vob files or transcoding them down. it took hours (4 - 6) to transcode Toy Story 1 to 854x480 avi/xvid 700MB two-pass |
| 22:30.14 | beardy | marc_in_lux: man grub |
| 22:30.24 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: that was on a reasonably fast opteron 250 with 1GB memory :-p |
| 22:30.28 | Koudelkaa | Azar, but i havent installed anything because i cant when its a net install and i cant get the ethernet to work |
| 22:30.30 | stew | outlaw84: use rcconf or update-rc.d to disable them |
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| 22:30.44 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Opteron 250? Meaning, 250MHz? :-O |
| 22:30.46 | marc_in_lux | beardy, did that. But I seem to not really get it... |
| 22:30.58 | stew | csch: you need to change the authmodule in /etc/courier/imapd to use authvckpw |
| 22:30.58 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: no, the model. it's 2GHz something |
| 22:31.09 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Ahh. I was about to say. WOW. |
| 22:31.22 | beardy | marc_in_lux: Read it again then. |
| 22:31.23 | Azar | Koudelkaa: it is ok, just type lspci to see what your Ethernet card is read as |
| 22:31.32 | Koudelkaa | Azar, ok |
| 22:31.36 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: dvd::rip is pretty easy to use |
| 22:31.42 | csch | ok, just this and will check the passwords of qmail ? |
| 22:31.43 | Azar | Koudelkaa: then write it down and after that type modconf |
| 22:31.54 | ale_ryu | oh! another problem! |
| 22:32.01 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Well, I have specifics I use.. I've been doing MKV streams for quite a while now. For the old AVI's I still had, I stream-copied them into MKV's and deleted the old AVI. :) |
| 22:32.03 | ale_ryu | whenever I reboot i have to reconfigure alsa |
| 22:32.06 | csch | I dont have to specify when the db files are stored ? |
| 22:32.06 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: and it makes it easy to pick/choose your final resolution/format |
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| 22:32.13 | Koudelkaa | Azar, thx |
| 22:32.17 | joeyy | what do i need to install to make - make work |
| 22:32.21 | joeyy | make: *** No rule to make target `install'. Stop. |
| 22:32.21 | ale_ryu | this happened after i installed a 2.6.12 kernel using dpkg |
| 22:32.40 | beardy | marc_in_lux: It's on the first page, and very clear. |
| 22:32.53 | ale_ryu | I've already tried dpkg-reconfigure alsa-base alsa-utils and linux-sound-base but it won't help |
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| 22:33.01 | marc_in_lux | beardy, did it again. man grub-install tells nothing about which config file to use, and man grub tells nothing about how to install. |
| 22:33.10 | ale_ryu | I've executed alsactl store too |
| 22:33.11 | outlaw84 | stew: I disabled that display manager and now the computer started in tty1 nice and clean |
| 22:33.13 | beardy | marc_in_lux: That's not what I said. |
| 22:33.13 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: i'm just thinking i can keep the vob files themselves, one per movie. easy to handle :-) |
| 22:33.17 | beardy | marc_in_lux: man grub |
| 22:33.25 | Azar | ale_ryu: disable or remove the oss |
| 22:33.33 | beardy | marc_in_lux: Allright.. |
| 22:33.36 | ale_ryu | that's all? |
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| 22:33.58 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: And rather.. Large... IMHO. I transcode, because of size. I have over 200+ DVDs I own, which all of them I store copies onto my media server's SATA-RAID filestorage. |
| 22:34.13 | Azar | ale_ryu: everytime you reboot the oss modules take over and alsa don't get a chance |
| 22:34.30 | stew | outlaw84: you might try startx and see if you get any useful info, saving that, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; we had one guy in here earlier that had to reconfigure when he went from 6.8->6.9 (if you are also in unstable) |
| 22:34.36 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Course, my media server also has 4 TV Tuners, and is literally in itself, a DVR system with network streaming. :) |
| 22:34.44 | xaxes|free | @poofn |
| 22:34.48 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: hmm. that's quite a collection :-) i have ... oh ... 50 or so movies and maybe a handful of them my kids watch all the time. i can get away with it :-) |
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| 22:35.05 | Lord_Athur | hi |
| 22:35.15 | Lord_Athur | hey all , i've installed the ubuntu server... can I change the color of the virtual terminals (tty)? from black to blue :P |
| 22:35.20 | outlaw84 | stew: I tryed 'X >> log' it crashed... I'll reboot now a check if anything got in the log |
| 22:35.29 | stew | Lord_Athur: #ubuntu |
| 22:35.36 | Azar | Lord_Athur: this is #debian try find help at #ubuntu |
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| 22:35.44 | Lord_Athur | ok |
| 22:35.48 | ale_ryu | Thanks Azar! |
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| 22:35.51 | ale_ryu | bye! |
| 22:36.01 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: what do you use for your frontend? myth? freevo? something else? |
| 22:36.14 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: You should see my remote.. I have two. I don't use the "conventional" TV set anymore. It's all done through my media server, using VLC as a streaming engine. Custom-programed "remote control" software to actually manage what's played, from where. My TabletPC and my PocketPC both have custom software to manage VLC's VOD stream. |
| 22:36.14 | tru_breeze | hi all |
| 22:36.14 | Lord_Athur | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:36.31 | Azar | Lord_Athur: , no ubuntu is not debian |
| 22:36.42 | tru_breeze | lord athur no definetely not |
| 22:37.02 | beardy | marc_in_lux: grub-install is a script, I guess you have to fiddle in it to use another config file (don't do it) Why not just replace the config file in it's default place? Copy it to somewhere safe before replacing it if you want. |
| 22:37.04 | Azar | Lord_Athur: ubuntu is a branch of debian definitely not the same system |
| 22:37.37 | Lord_Athur | Azar, but maybe a can try to change the bash colour of the same way |
| 22:37.40 | stew | Lord_Athur: /topic |
| 22:37.44 | tru_breeze | and I don't like it to much |
| 22:37.45 | marc_in_lux | beardy, will grub-install not try to overwrite files on the boot drive? |
| 22:37.51 | Lord_Athur | bye |
| 22:37.57 | Azar | Lord_Athur: sorry there are not same commands |
| 22:37.59 | outlaw84 | stew: nothing in the log... and still no X.org in /var/log |
| 22:38.26 | marc_in_lux | ugh. The coin dropped. umount /boot && mount /dev/hdc1 /boot |
| 22:38.38 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Mind you, the "Media Server" I talk about, is a windows-based server I setup myself. I'm going to be looking into the Linux arena for my next media server ideas. :) |
| 22:38.51 | marc_in_lux | I just knew there's a reason /boot sits on its own partition |
| 22:38.55 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: i have to get off my ass and do that, too :-) |
| 22:39.14 | asuffield | marc_in_lux: it's a mostly historical reason now, not needed on modern boxes |
| 22:39.14 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: I have a Dual 64-bit mobo/CPU coming in with 2gb RAM, 4 PCI-X TV Tuners, SLI 2xNvidia video, and Gigabit NIC. |
| 22:39.18 | Azar | I hope debian will not mess up with the "media whatever" |
| 22:39.43 | Psi-Jack | I'm afraid, though, that Linux may not yet really support much PCI-X hardware. heh |
| 22:39.50 | tru_breeze | psi-jack showoff :-)) |
| 22:39.57 | tru_breeze | i'm yealous |
| 22:40.01 | asuffield | there isn't much pci-x hardware that exists yet |
| 22:40.05 | tru_breeze | -y +j |
| 22:40.10 | Psi-Jack | asuffield: True there. ;) |
| 22:40.19 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: so you use VLC as the server to do the acquisition, transcoding and streaming to VLC clients? |
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| 22:40.47 | beardy | marc_in_lux: I don't know what you are doing now.. |
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| 22:41.18 | BR_WARRIOR | dpkg 2006 key |
| 22:41.18 | dpkg | i guess 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - |
| 22:41.20 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Just the streadming and VOD selection. Not the transcoding. WinDVR actually "records" the TV into MPEG2, which later gets transcoded to an MKV Xvid/Ogg automagically. |
| 22:41.49 | marc_in_lux | beardy, I just mount the backup of /boot as /boot, run grub-install, and then remount my original /boot |
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| 22:42.15 | Hooke | hi |
| 22:42.35 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: It can, however, stream up to 4 DVD's at the same time. Since the internal PIDE is nothing /but/ DVD-ROM drives, the hard drives are all SATA using SATA-RAID, with around 2TB of space. |
| 22:42.55 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: i'm looking at the vlc site now. looks like there's been much development. my current server is just a mythtv box ... maybe time for a change |
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| 22:43.19 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: I've heard good things about Myth.. Not too sure about it yet.. :) |
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| 22:43.33 | asuffield | myth is probably a better *TV* replacement |
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| 22:43.36 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: But, yeah. VLC is /quite/ capable of a lot. |
| 22:43.44 | asuffield | its abilities at streaming video maybe less so, hard to say |
| 22:43.55 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: well, myth is not really meant to be (and you can correct me if i'm wrong) a streaming server |
| 22:43.55 | tru_breeze | later all |
| 22:44.07 | csch | stew: I'm trying to install the new package but says that there is conflict with the installed package |
| 22:44.09 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: True... :) |
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| 22:44.20 | asuffield | myth is meant to be a TV |
| 22:44.22 | yang | does precompiled binary from redhat work on debian, how to make it executable? |
| 22:44.22 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: if you're gonna sit there in front of the box, sure, it's great |
| 22:44.25 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: A combintion of Myth and VLC, however, could be strongly used. |
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| 22:44.36 | csch | stew: when I try to apt-get remove courier-imap says that is not installed :S |
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| 22:44.52 | roler | I am really upset. after doing my last apt-get upgrade, amavisd-new was upgraded. IT went from a single config file to a multiple directory config, and now amavisd-new isn't using clamav to scan for email virus's... |
| 22:45.11 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: but, I seriously like being able to walk around my house with my TabletPC, watching live or pre-recorded TV, streamed over my own private network. :) |
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| 22:45.39 | Psi-Jack | Complete with pause, rewind, etc.. Without any load on the "client" itself. |
| 22:45.47 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: not into that. just glad to put the server (mini-itx, small quiet) away somewhere and watch movies downstairs |
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| 22:46.38 | Psi-Jack | eeyore-: Heh, well, as I said. I don't have a conventional TV. The one WS TV I do have is networked itself. :) |
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| 22:47.04 | WiFiTux | I have a question about the new Apple systems and Linux. Can I install Debian ona new MacBookPro? |
| 22:47.39 | marculix | WiFiTux: good question, why not? |
| 22:47.45 | Psi-Jack | WHOAH! |
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| 22:47.53 | Psi-Jack | Why the heck are there 14 CD's for Debian? |
| 22:47.56 | marculix | WiFiTux: it's intel based, so use Debian i386 |
| 22:48.08 | jbroome | Psi-Jack: do a net install |
| 22:48.12 | beardy | Psi-Jack: WHy shouldn't there be? |
| 22:48.17 | WiFiTux | marculix: I really ponder. It might just not work. |
| 22:48.20 | Psi-Jack | Heh. |
| 22:48.29 | Psi-Jack | I was just ... Crist. That's a lot. :) |
| 22:48.41 | beardy | Psi-Jack: Use the netinstaller, as suggested by jbroome. |
| 22:48.41 | WiFiTux | Psi-Jack: It has all the packags. |
| 22:48.44 | danne35289 | i just got debian installed, and the max resolution is 800*600. my screen supports at least 1024*768 |
| 22:48.48 | beardy | !d-i Psi-Jack |
| 22:48.48 | dpkg | Psi-Jack, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
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| 22:48.59 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: net-install |
| 22:49.04 | Psi-Jack | Yeah. |
| 22:49.06 | eeyore- | Psi-Jack: just need one smallish cd |
| 22:49.07 | WiFiTux | danne35289: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 22:49.07 | danne35289 | anyone knows how to fix it? |
| 22:49.17 | Psi-Jack | I'm looking at that. I'm about to download Debian through BT. |
| 22:49.46 | jbroome | Psi-Jack: you're going to dl'd a bunch of stuff you probably don't need |
| 22:49.50 | beardy | Psi-Jack: A netinstall we said. |
| 22:50.00 | jbroome | so don't bitch about it being too big. |
| 22:50.04 | Psi-Jack | But, what's the difference between debian-31r1-i386-netinst.is and debian-31r1a-i386-netinst.iso |
| 22:50.34 | Psi-Jack | jbroome: I'm not bitching. I was just amazed. :) |
| 22:51.13 | beardy | Psi-Jack: Where do you see debian-31r1-i386-netinst.iso? |
| 22:51.21 | Psi-Jack | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/3.1_r1/i386/bt-cd/ |
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| 22:52.13 | beardy | Psi-Jack: The clever one looks at the date ;) |
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| 22:52.29 | Psi-Jack | Heh, Okay. Shoot me. :p |
| 22:52.37 | beardy | Psi-Jack: I don't know exactly what it fixes, but it fixes something. |
| 22:52.41 | Psi-Jack | The r1a is dated one day before my birthday. :) |
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| 22:53.26 | Psi-Jack | Okay. I just need to know a few things about Debian's installer, what it supports. For example, would it support my Promise Ultra133-TX2 IDE controller? |
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| 22:53.37 | Fujoor | hey guys, im thinking about setting up a debian download computer and something occured to me, say that i download some torrent with ctorrent or rtorrent, does it stop downloading as soon as i log out from the shell with a remote computer, do i have to be online all the time? |
| 22:53.38 | beardy | !ig Psi-Jack |
| 22:53.49 | beardy | !tell Psi-Jack -about ig |
| 22:54.03 | blondie | Fujoor: look at the program calle screen |
| 22:54.06 | blondie | *caleld |
| 22:54.09 | Psi-Jack | beardy: Works for me, thanks. |
| 22:54.11 | blondie | erm, called |
| 22:54.13 | y | I cant find linux-headers in testing, should I install kernel-headers instead? |
| 22:54.16 | Fujoor | blondie: i heard about it, is it difficult to set up? |
| 22:54.22 | blondie | Fujoor: no |
| 22:54.25 | blondie | you type screen |
| 22:54.40 | blondie | then you run programs as normal inside it |
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| 22:54.57 | blondie | you press ctrl-a-d to detach from it, and screen -r to get back to it |
| 22:54.57 | Fujoor | blondie: but i have to apt-get it right, it aint included in debian (dont have acces to a debian computer right now) |
| 22:54.59 | blondie | it's very easy |
| 22:55.08 | blondie | yes, apt-get install screen |
| 22:55.19 | beardy | Fujoor: Yes it is. |
| 22:55.20 | Fujoor | ah, and thats all? |
| 22:55.21 | csch | stew: Jan 10 20:49:15 kimerofonte imaplogin: pmap_getmaps rpc problem: RPC: Timed out |
| 22:55.25 | csch | :S |
| 22:55.37 | petemc | Fujoor: you could also run nxserver on the box if you want to run azureus, you can disconnect and reconnect with that |
| 22:55.42 | blondie | Fujoor: pretty much |
| 22:55.47 | Fujoor | no, i thought of running in x |
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| 22:55.59 | unlearn | is there fluxbox for debian? |
| 22:56.01 | Fujoor | but ctorrent or rtorrent will suffice wouldnt it? |
| 22:56.10 | outlaw84 | unlearn: yess |
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| 22:56.24 | unlearn | k |
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| 22:56.47 | Psi-Jack | Downlaoding Debian's netinstall ISO at about 500kB/s |
| 22:57.04 | y | is linux-headers the same thing as kernel-headers? |
| 22:57.05 | aeronadix | Psi-Jack, hehe |
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| 22:57.19 | petemc | my cable was upgraded from 3 meg to 10, woo |
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| 22:57.42 | beardy | y: Yes. |
| 22:57.51 | Psi-Jack | Hmm, does this install guide cover what filesystems Debian allows installation to? |
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| 22:58.13 | beardy | Psi-Jack: Yes. Use ext3. |
| 22:58.18 | petemc | Psi-Jack: it should, what fs do you require? |
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| 22:58.44 | y | beardy, is there any differences at all? I can find kernel-headers for 2.4... only and linux-headers 2.6... in testing |
| 22:58.50 | Psi-Jack | Require? Nothing specific. I used to use ext3. I've used XFS before too. My requirements is ACL support. |
| 22:59.13 | Psi-Jack | Which I know ext3, and xfs both support fully. I remember ReiserFS didn't support ACLs when I last used it. |
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| 22:59.46 | beardy | y: The name of the packages has changed from kernel-image, kernel-source, kernel-headers to linux-image and so one instead, that's the only difference, that I know anyway. |
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| 23:00.18 | beardy | so on.. |
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| 23:01.52 | LeoNerd | y: that's because it's nice for the kernel package name to say "linux", just in case of other kernels (e.g. hurd, freebsd,...) being added to debian at another time |
| 23:02.26 | rickdanet | oi |
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| 23:04.16 | EricL | I built a kernel and an initrd image and I keep getting the kernel panic error saying: "/sbin/init: 399: arith: syntax error: "0xe/hda1" |
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| 23:04.28 | EricL | Does anyone know what I did wrong? |
| 23:04.33 | csch | stew: are you there ? |
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| 23:05.02 | Psi-Jack | luke_: You mentioned DALnet. Do you know me from there? heh |
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| 23:05.30 | Psi-Jack | jbroome: And are you any relation to mbroome? :) |
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| 23:06.09 | jbroome | no |
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| 23:08.35 | centrx | y, "linux-headers-XXX" is the new name for the same package that used to be "kernel-headers-XXX" |
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| 23:08.47 | centrx | y, so there would be a version difference |
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| 23:09.04 | centrx | and he's gone entirely isn't he |
| 23:09.32 | aeronadix | the ftp server was easy to use on 2.4, but a require genius on 2.6 |
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| 23:10.24 | LeoNerd | dh_make built me a template debian/manpage.xml file... I've filled that in now... How to build it into a manpage? I'm guessing a line in debian/rules |
| 23:10.28 | moret | pleae |
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| 23:10.31 | moret | please |
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| 23:10.45 | moret | say me if you can connect with me with ssh moret.no-ip.org |
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| 23:11.09 | _Sam-- | in an initrd, after initrd is done and pivot_root happens, what is the next thing to get executed? |
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| 23:11.25 | Bucciarati | moret: RSA key fingerprint is 5b:b8:ef:5a:0f:63:4b:42:6f:6f:24:45:de:21:93:40. |
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| 23:11.32 | sifi-x | is there linux-images for AMD64? |
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| 23:11.56 | Azar | sifi-x: type apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 23:11.58 | cyberix | http://www.inari.fi/kunta/sosterv/itsehoito/31.unettomuus.gif |
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| 23:12.15 | _Sam-- | i need to do something almost immediately after the pivot_root happens and before stuff starts getting executed...and after initrd runs |
| 23:12.17 | odla | !tell sifi-x about amd64 |
| 23:12.21 | boburt | question: i have set up and configured my debian box (/etc/network/interfaces and resolv.conf) to be a client in internet connection sharing with a windows box.. yet the windows box doesn't detect the debian. (the connection is direct through ethernet cable) any ideas why? |
| 23:12.24 | _Sam-- | but im not sure whrre it would go... |
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| 23:12.30 | Zenethian- | !tell zenethian about amd64 |
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| 23:14.01 | moret | Bucciarati: so, is it works? |
| 23:14.02 | Azar | ah boburt I forgot to tell you about this: after you do configuration you have to ifconfig eth0 down then /etc/init.d/networking restart |
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| 23:14.19 | boburt | i did reboot the computer Azar |
| 23:14.32 | simonp | hi. In woody, when running the default kernel, you could install in parallel many versions of the same kernel version (eg. 2.4.18 had kernel version -2,then -5, then -11, and so on). This doesn't seems to work this way on Sarge. |
| 23:14.34 | Azar | not only the PC boburt, the interfaces too |
| 23:14.38 | boburt | hmm |
| 23:14.40 | Bucciarati | moret: unless you give me user and password, i'm stuck there.. it may work |
| 23:14.56 | Azar | I am not sure if your settings have been saved, check the files again |
| 23:15.02 | g3brown | I have a Sarge box running as a file/ftp/web server for small office. As far as monitoring it, at times I would like to be able to see who is accessing it. I can use 'smbstatus' to check smb users. With vsftpd is there a way to show current users? I know I could look at the /var/log/vsftpd.log. I would also like to see current dhcp info from dhcpd3-server. |
| 23:15.07 | Chris_Tucker | how does one list users on a machine, and how does one make a user able to sudo? (i have sudo installed) |
| 23:15.25 | simonp | An "apt-get upgrade" of the kernel installs the new kernel over the previous one, so you can't boot on the previous one if you have problems. |
| 23:15.33 | simonp | Chris_Tucker, visudo |
| 23:15.39 | emesa | hey, using samba to share external hdd with windows. Just set up smb.conf and rebooted. I can see it in network neighborhood, but when I double-click it asks me for a username and password. However, I used the option guest ok = yes |
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| 23:15.57 | Bucciarati | moret: and if the fingerprint matches, it was your machine i was talking with |
| 23:15.58 | Chris_Tucker | simonp, ah... never tried that |
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| 23:16.16 | beardy | !list users |
| 23:16.16 | dpkg | This lists all user accounts with id 1000-1999: getent passwd | awk 'BEGIN { FS = ":"; } /:x:1[0-9][0-9][0-9]:/ { print $1; }' |
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| 23:16.44 | Chris_Tucker | ok next question, how does one get rid of that message that appears when you sudo? before you reenter your password? |
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| 23:16.58 | boburt | SIOCDELRT, what is that, Azar? |
| 23:17.08 | worthy | programmers jsut came out with an audio chat for linux users |
| 23:17.14 | worthy | it's a plugin that goes with gaim |
| 23:17.19 | odla | Chris_Tucker: man sudo |
| 23:17.30 | worthy | paltalk messenger plugin called Gaim-pt |
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| 23:17.40 | moret | Bucciarati: how can I view fingerprint? |
| 23:17.46 | worthy | http://www.xodian.net/ |
| 23:17.54 | roler | does anyone have a howto on how to hook amavisd-new to postfix so I can do spam assassin and clamav? |
| 23:17.58 | worthy | im in the linux room right now |
| 23:18.10 | worthy | this makes it better then typing all your help out to someone |
| 23:18.24 | bbrazil | roler: google it - there's one or two good ones |
| 23:18.34 | Bucciarati | moret: ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 23:18.42 | worthy | get that plugin and join paltalk - Computer Tech - Linux |
| 23:18.51 | roler | bbrazil; the problem being is amavisd-new just changed from one config file to a multiple config setup. those howto's don't work. |
| 23:19.11 | moret | Bucciarati: fingerprint matches :P |
| 23:19.12 | bbrazil | roler: you checked the README.Debian? |
| 23:19.13 | moret | thanks :) |
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| 23:21.20 | Aid` | hello |
| 23:21.53 | Aid` | I am having problems finding my mount point for a usb jump drive. I tried dmesg but can't find it. Any ideas? |
| 23:22.04 | Azar | what is SIODELRT? |
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| 23:23.32 | emesa | to access my debian machine through windows via samba keeps asking me for username/password even though I set guest ok = yes. Do I need to set something else in smb.conf? |
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| 23:24.19 | Chris_Tucker | how does one get rid of that message that appears when you sudo? before you reenter your password? (man sudo left me with a blank face) |
| 23:24.43 | g3brown | emesa: do you have share access or user access set? |
| 23:24.46 | roler | bbrazil; thank you, doing so now. |
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| 23:25.31 | noideaatall | where can i get the source of a linux commmand ... for example `ls` or `rm` |
| 23:25.33 | emesa | is that share modes = no? |
| 23:25.51 | g3brown | emesa: security = SHARE |
| 23:25.56 | emesa | oic |
| 23:26.02 | emesa | right now it is commented out |
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| 23:26.21 | g3brown | emesa: I take it you are trying to connect with no passwords? |
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| 23:26.31 | emesa | g3brown - yes |
| 23:26.48 | ruied | how can I change my user back to the defult shell? 'usermod -s ???' |
| 23:26.59 | ruied | defult= default |
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| 23:27.06 | jshoenberger | Brain fart! What's the name of the file that tells Debian what the DNS server's ip is? |
| 23:27.14 | g3brown | emesa: okay, then set security = SHARE You will also probably need a 'map to guest = Bad User' or something like that. |
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| 23:27.27 | Hydroxide | jshoenberger: Brain unfart! /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:27.30 | jshoenberger | thanks! |
| 23:27.49 | streuner | hm, and if you use DHCP? |
| 23:27.52 | Hydroxide | he didn't like my answer.... :< |
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| 23:27.58 | g3brown | ruied: usermod -s /bin/bash username |
| 23:28.01 | Hydroxide | oh, wow, he replied and I didn't notice |
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| 23:28.19 | emesa | g 3 : I have a guest account = nobody, do I just uncomment that? |
| 23:28.26 | emesa | oh, it works now |
| 23:28.29 | emesa | I think... |
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| 23:28.41 | emesa | yup, I just needed to change security |
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| 23:28.47 | emesa | thanks a bunch g3brown |
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| 23:28.51 | Fujoor | blondie: hey, u still here? |
| 23:28.55 | g3brown | emesa: np |
| 23:29.29 | blondie | hm? |
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| 23:29.37 | Fujoor | there you are |
| 23:29.53 | Fujoor | blondie: i have some more questions about screen if you dont mind |
| 23:30.02 | blondie | k |
| 23:30.37 | Fujoor | blondie: i remembered that the shell i use has screen, so, when i type screen it enters screen mode and i can, say for example, log into irssi, but when i log out it exists screen mode right? |
| 23:31.00 | Fujoor | blondie: how do i do to constantly be there, am i explaining myself stupidly? |
| 23:31.07 | blondie | press ctrl-a-d |
| 23:31.13 | blondie | when you are in irssi |
| 23:31.15 | Aid` | I am having problems finding my mount point for a usb jump drive. I tried dmesg but can't find it. Any ideas? |
| 23:31.16 | Fujoor | blondie: but thats for detaching |
| 23:31.19 | blondie | Fujoor: yes |
| 23:31.25 | blondie | then log out |
| 23:31.28 | Fujoor | blondie: but i dont want to detach |
| 23:31.29 | blondie | it will still be running |
| 23:31.34 | Fujoor | blondie: aahaaa |
| 23:31.45 | blondie | when you detach, it still runs |
| 23:31.47 | Fujoor | blondie: so i press ctrl-a-d when i want to exit "but still be there" |
| 23:31.48 | blondie | you just cant see it |
| 23:31.52 | blondie | yes |
| 23:31.59 | blondie | then type "screen -r" to get it back |
| 23:31.59 | Fujoor | ah, you are so good |
| 23:32.08 | Fujoor | even if i have to log on again? |
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| 23:32.16 | benjamindees | Aid`, try /dev/sdaX |
| 23:32.32 | Fujoor | as long as i detached myself i can always type screen -r |
| 23:32.48 | Aid` | mount: special device /dev/sdaX does not exist |
| 23:32.49 | Fujoor | r for resume i presume? |
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| 23:33.04 | ruied | how can I jail for a user so he can't get out of his home dir? |
| 23:33.10 | benjamindees | Aid`, sda1/sda2/sda3/etc |
| 23:33.17 | Fujoor | blondie: and then i can do other things when ive detached and just resume my previous stuff with screen -r right? |
| 23:33.20 | blondie | Fujoor: re-attache |
| 23:33.23 | blondie | -e |
| 23:33.28 | Aid` | i do |
| 23:33.30 | blondie | Fujoor: yes |
| 23:33.31 | iturk | hi there everytime i compile a device driver using gcc -c name.c and then i change the file (i correct it) i am always getting the same errors, even if i delete wall the content of the file then i compile the result is always the same like if the file never changes !!! any idea about this problem with gcc ?? |
| 23:33.35 | Aid` | mount /dev/sda1 /mnt/usb2 -fat32 |
| 23:33.38 | Fujoor | ok, ill go try it out, thank you blondie |
| 23:33.39 | Aid` | if the fs is fat32, right? |
| 23:33.44 | anapivirtua_ | bonne nuit les ptits loups (bah quoi, jvoulais dire ca,.. si vous avez un pb, faite moi signe, je suis la pour le regler, ma solution, la boxx, en 3 lecons je vous apprend a vous endormir rapidement et sans medicaments...) bon... bonne nuit quoi |
| 23:33.44 | blondie | Fujoor: if screen -r doesn't work, then usually try screen -dr |
| 23:33.53 | Fujoor | ill write it down |
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| 23:34.13 | benjamindees | Aid`, no, -tvfat |
| 23:34.31 | Aid` | then it says it isn't a valid block defice |
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| 23:35.05 | boburt | question: i have set up and configured my debian box (/etc/network/interfaces and resolv.conf) to be a client in internet connection sharing with a windows box.. yet the windows box doesn't detect the debian. (the connection is direct through ethernet cable) any ideas why? |
| 23:35.25 | boburt | i am using a dialup connection on the windows box |
| 23:36.14 | Aid` | benjamindees, I don't know but i've tried 0-15 and none of them work thanks anyways :S |
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| 23:37.04 | benjamindees | Aid`, modprobe usb-storage |
| 23:37.29 | Aid` | which does what? |
| 23:37.30 | ruied | how can I jail a user in to his home directory? |
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| 23:37.54 | eeyore- | iturk: i have no idea what it is you're trying to say |
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| 23:38.16 | eeyore- | iturk: but it's highly unlikely to be gcc "problem" |
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| 23:38.33 | ozgurgerilla | exactly what plug in do I need to compile java files in the shell? |
| 23:39.04 | Aid` | javac |
| 23:39.08 | stew | ozgurgerilla: apt-get install jikes |
| 23:39.08 | Aid` | is that what you mean |
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| 23:39.12 | EricL | The new kernel that comes in .deb format, 2.6.8 makes my computer kernel panic. |
| 23:39.34 | ozgurgerilla | jikes |
| 23:39.34 | EricL | It gives me the same error that I get if I build my own kernel. |
| 23:39.44 | EricL | Could grub be a problem? |
| 23:39.45 | ozgurgerilla | javac. yes |
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| 23:40.15 | Aid` | you want to install the java compiler i hope? if so you need to search "java on debian" at google |
| 23:40.19 | Aid` | that gives you all the info you need |
| 23:40.31 | ozgurgerilla | ok |
| 23:40.33 | ozgurgerilla | ty |
| 23:40.38 | Cyis | anyone got a simple perl one-liner to decode stored username/password data from Firefox's storage file? |
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| 23:42.03 | Azar | how can Debian PC can be linked to a Windows 2000 and obtain an internet connection from? dialup |
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| 23:42.28 | Aid` | Azar, the windows os is the gateway? |
| 23:42.31 | Azar | networking for dialup a Debian with a win2k ? |
| 23:42.48 | Azar | yes Aid` the windows will initiate connections for Debian |
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| 23:42.57 | ozgurgerilla | does debian detect hardware automatically |
| 23:43.06 | Aid` | you setup 'internet sharing' for the dialup connection, correct? |
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| 23:43.15 | Azar | Aid`, yes |
| 23:43.20 | Aid` | can you ping it? |
| 23:43.26 | Azar | only the windows box does not detect the Debian box |
| 23:43.46 | Aid` | Azar, i have the same setup |
| 23:43.52 | stew | ozgurgerilla: yes if you have discover and or hotplug installed |
| 23:43.57 | Aid` | but i didn't ever have to make win2k detect my debian |
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| 23:44.04 | Aid` | just the debian goto my gateway |
| 23:44.06 | stew | Cyis: one would really hope such a thing wasn't possible |
| 23:44.09 | Azar | Aid` could you help boburt please? |
| 23:44.14 | boburt | hmm |
| 23:44.16 | Aid` | try 'host <gateway-ip> |
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| 23:44.31 | Azar | Aid` at command line? |
| 23:44.43 | Aid` | yes |
| 23:44.45 | Cyis | stew: well when you forget the password to a site and that is your only backup :) not much choice |
| 23:44.49 | boburt | the little lights on the ethernet card don't even light up |
| 23:44.56 | Cyis | I believe mozilla used to just use base64 |
| 23:44.57 | boburt | but okay i'll try that |
| 23:45.11 | stew | boburt: you have them directly connected? you likely need a crossover cable |
| 23:45.11 | andresluis | hi, in which channel can i find the debian-installer people? |
| 23:45.21 | stew | andresluis: #debian-boot |
| 23:45.26 | Azar | Aid` did you used ethernet cabling between the boxes? |
| 23:45.35 | stew | andresluis: you can use that to report bugs, but not for random help |
| 23:45.36 | Aid` | yes |
| 23:45.50 | Aid` | Azar, this box use to be windows but i just installed debian |
| 23:46.00 | stew | boburt: if you don't get a light on the cards, don't worry about anything software related until you do |
| 23:46.09 | boburt | yes, i have them directly connected |
| 23:46.17 | boburt | hmm okay |
| 23:46.20 | stew | boburt: are you using a crosssover cable? |
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| 23:46.36 | Azar | Aid`, after the /etc/network/interfaces and /etc/resolv.conf have been changed , the /etc/init.d networking restart gave an error: SIODELRT so there might be an issue? |
| 23:46.38 | stew | boburt: if you don't get a link light that is almost definately the problem |
| 23:46.39 | boburt | well, i'm not even sure, to be honest. it's the ethernet cable that came with my verizon |
| 23:46.48 | iturk | eeyore-: all the time that i compile a device driver like a normal hello world and goodbye cruel world if i try to change the file then i compile it again the gcc is still using the old version of the program !! Is this normal ?? |
| 23:46.54 | boburt | it says "CAT5" on it |
| 23:47.10 | andresluis | stew: i'm trying to find what replaced a file named base2_2.tgz that used to be in the potato's installation. I don't even know where to look. |
| 23:47.13 | Aid` | Azar, you could be right but, I haven't been on debian long enough to know what is wrong. I've only just installed debian on friday |
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| 23:47.24 | Aid` | sorry |
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| 23:47.33 | boburt | anyway, i tried that host command and it said: "connection timed out: no servers could be reached" |
| 23:47.44 | Azar | boburt the cabling I was using was not a regular DSL cable I use ADSL |
| 23:47.50 | boburt | oh |
| 23:48.11 | Aid` | so is there any reason my debian isn't detecting my jump drive |
| 23:48.12 | Azar | I am not sure it might need another type of ethernet cable |
| 23:48.19 | elirips | hello. i just did an 'aptitude install netpipe-tcp'. now it is doing an 'Unpacking netpipe-tcp (from...' since about 2 minutes.. i guess that's not normal, what to do about it? |
| 23:48.25 | boburt | crossover == CAT5 doesn't it? |
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| 23:48.29 | boburt | or something along those lines |
| 23:48.33 | roler | how do I make amavisd-new use spamd / spamassassin/ |
| 23:48.37 | stew | boburt: apples / oranges |
| 23:48.40 | boburt | oh |
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| 23:49.34 | Aid` | so no one can help me? ok il try back later |
| 23:49.42 | nikol | kaneis edw? |
| 23:49.43 | boburt | I believe the two ethernet cards work though because when i plug the windows box into my old dsl (not defunct) modem, it lights up. and the debian box was Azar's and he used DSL with it.. |
| 23:49.44 | roler | bbrazil; is there documentaiton in /usr/share/doc for that? |
| 23:49.47 | stew | boburt: here's how you tell, hold the end of the cable in your hand, with the plastic retainer clip facing downwards, as if you were about to plug it into something, now look though the plastic at the leftmost two wires, they will be either orange/white or green/white |
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| 23:49.55 | bbrazil | roler: should be |
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| 23:50.06 | boburt | alright |
| 23:50.17 | stew | boburt: then do the same with the other end of the same cable, if you have the same colors on the far left on both ends, its *not* a crossover cable |
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| 23:50.20 | sonyman | Has anyone worked around this kcontrol message? "you have a logitech mouse connected, and libusb was found at compile time, but it was not possible to access this mouse" Etch, KDE 3.4.3 |
| 23:50.28 | kino | should I use xdm or gdm? anyone know the difference? |
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| 23:50.34 | bbrazil | roler: I find that when a DD does something like that, its just splitting the previous config file into several smaller ones |
| 23:50.47 | sonyman | kino what desktop environment? gnome? |
| 23:50.47 | sollust | kino: gdm is gnome based |
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| 23:50.53 | Cyis | stew: nevermind.. wife was able to remember it :) |
| 23:50.54 | kino | oh I hate gnome |
| 23:51.03 | sonyman | kino what are you using? |
| 23:51.11 | kino | I'll stick with xdm |
| 23:51.21 | sollust | you can use whatever gdm or xdm to start your environment |
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| 23:51.31 | sollust | kdm can start gnome, or vise versa |
| 23:51.35 | rambo3 | is there a way to autologin with xdm on debian |
| 23:51.35 | sollust | vice |
| 23:51.36 | kino | but gdm loads a bunch of gnome libs |
| 23:51.37 | roler | bbrazil; ya that's pretty much what happened... but in the new config they disabled virus canning. go figure. |
| 23:51.38 | kino | right? |
| 23:51.45 | benjamindees | kino, right |
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| 23:52.02 | roler | bbrazil; previously I had postfix running spam assassin as well as amavisd. I wanted amavisd to do both, since that's it's job |
| 23:52.02 | boburt | stew: it is white red, white red, on both sides. you meant to hold them upwards right? with the "tongue" thing up? |
| 23:52.08 | bbrazil | roler: in the old they disabled SA by default so that it wasn't a dependancy :) |
| 23:52.20 | nikol | is debian the best for newbie's? |
| 23:52.48 | boburt | wait, sorry stew, it might be orange.. |
| 23:52.58 | boburt | color-blindness on my part |
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| 23:53.40 | Aid` | I am having problems finding my mount point for a usb jump drive. I tried dmesg but can't find it. Any ideas? |
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| 23:54.04 | stew | boburt: if both ends have the wires in the same order it is not a crossover and wont work |
| 23:54.25 | boburt | alright, then i don't have a crossover. thank you |
| 23:54.30 | jair | I have a modem in my laptop, it is call ttySHSF0 and I would like to know if is working or not? it is a way I can plug in a phone line and dial to it to hear the sound??? |
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| 23:54.46 | roler | bbrazil; so can you help me find the documentation on what to do with amavisd? |
| 23:54.54 | jair | I have an IBM R51 the modem is an internal one |
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| 23:55.57 | jair | do I have to configure the modem with the phone number of the line where is attached currenty? |
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| 23:55.57 | jair | currently |
| 23:56.35 | Bucciarati | jair: apt-cache show mgetty minicom |
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| 23:56.54 | moomilk | how do i enable chinese? |
| 23:57.00 | moomilk | i already tried reconfiguring the locales |
| 23:57.07 | moomilk | but the characters still come out as "???" |
| 23:57.13 | jair | Bucciarati, I aptually install minicom |
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| 23:57.30 | jair | but the console open and I can not type any command on it? |
| 23:57.43 | jair | Bucciarati, have you ever configure a modem?? |
| 23:57.43 | Bucciarati | jair: do you know what to type ? |
| 23:58.13 | jair | Bucciarati, yes it shows me there couple of "enter" "enter" and then Crtl -A Z for options |
| 23:58.28 | Bucciarati | you have to write AT commands |
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| 23:58.55 | Bucciarati | google at command reference |
| 23:58.56 | jair | Bucciarati, AT commands?? hmm yes I have a page open here with those |
| 23:59.11 | jair | Bucciarati, hold on |
| 23:59.14 | jair | pleas |
| 23:59.16 | d03boy | ATH0++ |
| 23:59.49 | Bucciarati | jair: Battery 1: discharging, 3%, 00:05:17 remaining |
| 23:59.58 | Bucciarati | jair: bye :) |
