| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
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| 00:02.42 | Kofif | ok thenr |
| 00:02.57 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: or, better, apt-get remove --purge proftpd |
| 00:02.58 | seba | stew: yes, i try. but it's has it's own problems too. |
| 00:03.03 | Kofif | regarding the kernel panic msg im keep getting , what should i change / fix then in the menuconfig ? |
| 00:03.23 | stew | ask #samba |
| 00:03.26 | stew | seba: ^^ |
| 00:03.27 | _tjansson | Malagmyr: was does --purge do? |
| 00:03.37 | _tjansson | thx btw stew |
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| 00:03.39 | Kofif | _tjansson erases |
| 00:03.46 | seba | stew: je je, thanks. |
| 00:03.50 | stew | _tjansson: --purge also removes the configuration |
| 00:03.57 | _tjansson | nice |
| 00:04.01 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: read the manual :) It removes some config files and stuff that might not be removed otherwise. Nothing bad anyway. |
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| 00:04.40 | _tjansson | a RTFM :D - time for me to go to bed then :D |
| 00:04.48 | _tjansson | but thx anyways :D |
| 00:04.58 | Kofif | well im getting VFS problem kernel panic , about the root , where exactly should i look in the kernel menuconfig ? |
| 00:05.05 | seba | join #samba |
| 00:05.13 | stew | Kofif: you ide chipset and your root filesystem |
| 00:05.17 | afabian | Malagmyr, the platters are usually readable, it's the motor and such that typically fails. |
| 00:05.24 | Kofif | ide chipset , ok |
| 00:05.27 | Kofif | my filesystem is ext2 |
| 00:05.28 | z36ra | in konqeror, what would cause left-dblclick not to open a text file, but right-click-open in-kwrite works fine? |
| 00:05.43 | stew | Kofif: and they need to be compled in, not compiled as modules |
| 00:05.43 | dusty- | jelly, can u tell me the correct host for httpd as ftp was ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org ? |
| 00:05.48 | afabian | You shouldn't let your strategy give you a false sense of security. It sounds about as bad as "no plan." Because the data recovery fees are .. much more expensive than backups. |
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| 00:05.55 | jelly | dusty-: uh, the same? |
| 00:05.55 | dusty- | jelly, should I change it to http://uk.debian.org? |
| 00:06.06 | jelly | dusty-: no, leave it as-is. |
| 00:06.06 | z36ra | help please. |
| 00:06.07 | dargeer | hi - anyone compile iptables from source tar? |
| 00:06.11 | dusty- | ok |
| 00:06.17 | Kofif | where is the ide chipset value hides ? |
| 00:06.21 | epsilon | dargeer: i did once |
| 00:06.24 | jelly | dusty-: just change the protocol and try again. |
| 00:06.37 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: ever priced recovery jobs at, e.g., ontrack.com? |
| 00:06.39 | afabian | Malagmyr, you might be able to do something with LVM, partition the disk into three separate partitions with parity information like a RAID 5 array. But modern drives already tend to transparently hide bad-sector errors. |
| 00:06.47 | benjamindees | Kofif, block devices |
| 00:06.48 | dusty- | worked, thanks jelly |
| 00:06.51 | stew | Kofif: block devices |
| 00:06.56 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? I have put all info about it here http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:07.04 | eeyore- | much better off investing in another hard drive and back up stuff to it periodically |
| 00:07.09 | andax | Kofif: give the kernel the correct root=/dev/hdXY parameter |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | afabian: sure, but not always completely, just badly enough for regular software not to read it correctly. Like, I recently used a windows program to recover files from my brothers old drive which was spinning down without warning every 10 seconds. The program just sat there and started it up and continued. Took a few hours, but it worked. That was on NTFS. I need a more linux-compatible filesystem than that, which has similar programs |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:07.19 | stew | hawking: show us the actual output from apt-get remove |
| 00:07.35 | stew | hawking: use a pastebin, don't paste here |
| 00:07.38 | Kofif | cant seem to find that value |
| 00:07.40 | dargeer | epsilon - the install says to give the location of the kernel in the make line - but does a 'make' by itself give a good compile? |
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| 00:07.42 | z36ra | fresh Sarge install and dble-click in Konqeror wont open a text file in /usr/share/doc. |
| 00:07.47 | z36ra | whats up? |
| 00:07.49 | Kofif | its 2.6.15 ( was originaly ) |
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| 00:07.57 | eeyore- | hawking: short answer, modify the pre/post-remove scripts (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) and add "exit 0" after the first #/... line |
| 00:07.58 | andax | Kofif: /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf |
| 00:08.22 | Kofif | andax we are talking about kernel compile config mate. |
| 00:08.23 | stew | Kofif: device drivers -> ata |
| 00:08.29 | hawking | eeyore - trying |
| 00:08.33 | z36ra | Anyone else have that problem when installing from DVD? |
| 00:08.39 | jelly | dusty-: your firewall doesn't pass passive ftp connections. You might want to investigate and correct the configuration. |
| 00:08.50 | g33k | thanks for the zip help...How do I get this command that i use to start my gameserver to contiue running after I close putty |
| 00:09.04 | dusty- | jelly, thats normal and its too much of a hastly |
| 00:09.07 | dusty- | http is fine |
| 00:09.10 | g33k | I noticed that the gameserver closes when I close putty |
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| 00:09.12 | stew | g33k: use screen |
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| 00:09.15 | z36ra | Im gonna go out on a limb and say nobody is listening to me. |
| 00:09.28 | g33k | ok that was in the tutorial |
| 00:09.29 | epsilon | g33k: screen or fork |
| 00:09.37 | stew | z36ra: ask in #debian-kde |
| 00:09.41 | eeyore- | z36ra: or, we don't have your problem :-> |
| 00:09.42 | Kofif | well i got an MSI combo-2 motherboard , should have then just about every option / module included right ? |
| 00:09.47 | g33k | so how do I get back to that screen when I log in again? |
| 00:09.48 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:09.55 | eeyore- | z36ra: you do know about double-click speed, right? |
| 00:09.57 | andax | Kofif: type lspci and check for the chipset you have |
| 00:09.58 | epsilon | screen -r |
| 00:10.06 | z36ra | stew, thanx... good suggestion |
| 00:10.12 | Kofif | good idea hang on ! , |
| 00:10.16 | g33k | screen -r gives you a list or somethin? |
| 00:10.43 | epsilon | g33k: RTFM |
| 00:10.43 | stew | g33k: screen -ls |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | k that makes sense |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | cool |
| 00:10.47 | Kofif | ahh good to be back with linux, its all comeing back too me now :] i had a long time off from computers used to be a bash geek :] |
| 00:10.58 | Malagmyr | Are there programs similar to EasyRecovery available for Linux? |
| 00:11.07 | epsilon | g33k: if you prefer to refuse reading manual pages, stay with windows ot suse |
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| 00:11.30 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: i don't see a reason why you need a "recovery" program ... |
| 00:11.45 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's a hardware failure, no software is gonna fix that |
| 00:12.20 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: and if the hardware doesn't fail "enough" for software to still function, why then, you still don't need a software besides dd/dd_rescue |
| 00:12.24 | epsilon | what does EasyRecovery do? |
| 00:12.29 | andax | it sales |
| 00:12.33 | Kofif | lspci gives me a lot of intel :] |
| 00:12.42 | Kofif | so i belive i should go for intel. |
| 00:12.50 | andax | Kofif: so you need to put * for all intel |
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| 00:13.18 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: those programs do work in some cases. i just wanted the filesystem on the new machine to be easy to recover stuff from in such cases. just an idea i got, really. |
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| 00:13.52 | Kofif | yes andax i know , thank you :] |
| 00:13.53 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: admirable, won't work. backup/restore is your real choice. |
| 00:14.12 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: say a drive suddenly got bad sectors in the directory thingy part that says where all the files are, those programs can scan the drive and still find most of the files. |
| 00:14.14 | g33k | saying screen not found |
| 00:14.21 | Kofif | ok doing make ! |
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| 00:14.33 | stew | g33k: apt-get install screen... |
| 00:14.39 | stew | Kofif: /msg dpkg kp |
| 00:14.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: but, you do have backup superblocks |
| 00:14.57 | benjamindees | Malagmyr, ext2 is probably your best bet |
| 00:15.06 | falkon | I'm very confused right now. I installed a package that says it was compiled with the -lcrypt option and the password in the configuration file must be encrypted. how do I do this with makepasswd? |
| 00:15.07 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: regardless of what filesystem I use and they all make the same amount? |
| 00:15.10 | g33k | opps had the syntax backwards... I tried apt-get screen install...c you guys are making progress |
| 00:15.16 | Kofif | something new stew ? |
| 00:15.18 | g33k | I tried something first |
| 00:15.23 | Malagmyr | ext2 it is, then |
| 00:15.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, just don't let it give you any sense of security. At all. If the data is important enough to worry about, come up with a real plan. But, yeah, ext2. |
| 00:15.26 | hawking | eeyore : I did what you said but that didn't work |
| 00:15.59 | stew | Kofif: no, its old |
| 00:16.03 | hawking | eeyore : I still get the same errors :(( |
| 00:16.25 | Kofif | never used that, |
| 00:16.31 | stew | hawking: we could help you a log better if you show us the actual errors |
| 00:16.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: no, ext2 |
| 00:16.42 | stew | ^g^t |
| 00:16.52 | epsilon | why not ext3 |
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| 00:16.57 | Solet | is there a command to make an iso similar to the tar command? where you give it your directory to make the tar out of, and the output path/filename of your finished tarball and it makes it? |
| 00:17.01 | eeyore- | hawking: time to be more specific. what package is it, and, which file did you modify, and how? |
| 00:17.01 | hawking | stew : did you see my paste? |
| 00:17.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, might want to use the drive's SMART reporting. |
| 00:17.25 | stew | hawking: no, where did you put it? |
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| 00:17.37 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs |
| 00:17.38 | robertj | heya all, does anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt? |
| 00:17.40 | Malagmyr | afabian: that's already set up :) |
| 00:17.44 | stew | hawking: oh, you said you put it on channels.debian.net but didn't give us the url |
| 00:17.48 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:17.54 | hawking | stew : oops sorry |
| 00:17.57 | eeyore- | epsilon: ext3 = ext2 + journal, so it goes without saying :-) |
| 00:17.58 | g33k | That screen install is asking for the debian cd...right now i'm by the server but what do I do if I'm not..can you make it get files from the internet? |
| 00:17.59 | Solet | benjamindees:thx |
| 00:18.05 | stew | hawking: no, it should end with a number |
| 00:18.06 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1537 |
| 00:18.11 | hawking | stew : this is it |
| 00:18.21 | metaperl | so given that gcc has been updated for Debian/testing, when can I expect an upgrade of amarok? we are 2 major versions back |
| 00:18.48 | epsilon | metaperl: when it's done [tm] |
| 00:18.51 | jason^ | heh |
| 00:18.59 | hawking | eeyore - it's a package called lale ( lale.sourceforge.net ) it's a turkish-english dictionary file I put "exit 0" to the second lines of lale.postrm lale.postinst and lale.prerm |
| 00:19.00 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's important enough, it's important enough to mirror on at least one other hardware. i mirror my important files (family photos, etc.) in three places |
| 00:19.19 | metaperl | epsilon: :) |
| 00:19.23 | eeyore- | hawking: and what's the result of trying to remove the package? |
| 00:19.26 | Kofif | stew what do i need this kp for actualy ? , i already know to make ; make install; vi /etc/lilo.conf;/bin/lilo -v;reboot |
| 00:19.41 | z36ra | stew, #debian-kde is dead as a doggon door-knob... hehe |
| 00:19.43 | jason^ | so gnome-applets got updated but not gnome-panel, and gnome-panel is the deps |
| 00:19.47 | hawking | eeyore - still same error |
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| 00:20.09 | z36ra | I dbl-click on a file in /usr/share/doc.. in konqeror and kwrite never opens. but if I right-click->open in->kwrite, it opens fine. What could the problem be? |
| 00:20.16 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: it's not that important. I keep such things on my desktop pc, which uses a mirrored hardware raid setup, while also rsyncing with an online server |
| 00:20.39 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: anyway. I'm using ext2 on that new machine now. thanks for the help :) |
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| 00:21.14 | z36ra | and yes, my mouse-speed is set correctly, eeyore- |
| 00:21.22 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:21.22 | eeyore- | hawking: if i were you i'd edit the pre/post-install scripts too, same way :-) then force a reinstall, (and make sure your shortcut haven't been overwritten by reinstall). basically you just want dpkg to just STFU and install it first, so you could uninstall it. |
| 00:21.53 | chealer | z36ra: ask #debian-kde |
| 00:21.58 | benjamindees | z36ra, right-click, properties, click on little wrench, what does it list in application preference order? |
| 00:22.04 | eeyore- | hawking: classic debian chicken-and-egg problem where you can't uninstall if it hasn't been fully installed |
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| 00:22.48 | eeyore- | and the corresponding --remove |
| 00:22.51 | hawking | eeyore - package is not in repositories I installed it from a deb file |
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| 00:23.04 | eeyore- | hawking: same thing |
| 00:23.20 | hawking | so should i do apt-get install --STFU package.deb? |
| 00:23.29 | Kofif | lol |
| 00:23.32 | eeyore- | hawking: no, there really isn't an --stfu option :-) |
| 00:23.40 | benjamindees | z36ra, then click on embedding, what does it say for left-click action? |
| 00:23.41 | Kofif | well |
| 00:23.45 | Kofif | we can make one |
| 00:23.47 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/i/want/iso/of/ -abstract /image.iso is the command to build everything in the directory "/dir/i/want/iso/of/" into an iso at root called "image.iso"? |
| 00:23.50 | Kofif | kinda easy :] |
| 00:23.57 | kspath | so true |
| 00:24.01 | eeyore- | hawking: look. let's look at your problem logically. |
| 00:24.02 | hawking | there is no solution and everyone is making fun of that |
| 00:24.10 | hawking | eeyore - sure |
| 00:24.15 | eeyore- | hawking: what's the problem? package can't be uninstalled, right? |
| 00:24.20 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.23 | eeyore- | hawking: because it hasn't been fully installed, right? |
| 00:24.30 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
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| 00:24.40 | Kofif | apt-get install -f ? |
| 00:24.44 | eeyore- | hawking: so, the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* is failing right? (specifically pre/post install) |
| 00:24.50 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.52 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how to make the script not fail? |
| 00:25.05 | eeyore- | hawking: you can either debug them, or, just exit out early with 0 return code, right? |
| 00:25.05 | Kofif | or -f install even |
| 00:25.12 | benjamindees | Solet, no, you don't need -abstract |
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| 00:25.29 | benjamindees | Solet, you need -o filename.iso |
| 00:25.30 | eeyore- | hawking: but, when you "dpkg -i foo.deb", you also unpack the package (including scripts), right? |
| 00:25.40 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/ -o image.iso |
| 00:25.46 | eeyore- | hawking: so if you edited the scripts as they exist now, they will be overwritten by "dpkg -i", right? |
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| 00:25.53 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how do you solve that? |
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| 00:26.09 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs -o image.iso /dir/ |
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| 00:26.22 | eeyore- | hawking: can you see the problem, and its solution, in step-by-step order? |
| 00:26.22 | Solet | thanks |
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| 00:26.43 | myamarti | What is the status of Creative Soundblaster X-Fi support |
| 00:27.02 | star-trekio | jesus |
| 00:27.07 | dos000 | anyone know (or have expereence) for an out of band management console that has like 8/16 ports for configuring servers ? |
| 00:27.14 | star-trekio | I don't know if I'm smart enuf to be a lnux admin any more |
| 00:27.24 | star-trekio | I really don't know anything |
| 00:27.28 | star-trekio | it's horrible |
| 00:27.30 | star-trekio | :( |
| 00:27.42 | eeyore- | dos000: lots of people sell serial terminal servers .... |
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| 00:27.47 | sexy_girl | http://neoh59.free.fr/sphpblog/images/mypic.exe <--take look my sexy pic and dont forget vote for it |
| 00:27.51 | Kofif | why are you saying that ? |
| 00:28.02 | eeyore- | dos000: unless you want to simulate keyboard/screen, then it gets real expensive |
| 00:28.11 | Kofif | LOL right .exe botnet file in a linux channel, very smart :] |
| 00:28.27 | eeyore- | oooh, an .exe |
| 00:28.28 | Tchiak | :P |
| 00:28.29 | benjamindees | heh |
| 00:28.32 | eeyore- | riiiiiight |
| 00:28.34 | sabin | i need help with tv tuner for ati radeon all in wonder |
| 00:28.41 | Kofif | that's a smart person lol |
| 00:28.42 | eeyore- | call it "mypic.scr", why don't you? |
| 00:28.43 | dos000 | eeyore-, i just want to login remotly from a different port and not have to drive 400 km to the data center |
| 00:28.48 | sabin | if anyone has that working could you please msg me |
| 00:29.04 | eeyore- | dos000: if it's just *one* machine, sure, www.pc-weasel.com |
| 00:29.16 | diana | sabin: I have it working. |
| 00:29.34 | dos000 | eeyore-, its more than one machine .. at least 7 of them |
| 00:29.42 | sabin | diana, cool, can u tell me what you installed, i compiled and loaded that km thing from the gatos project, but no luck |
| 00:29.47 | eeyore- | dos9: buy seven cards :-) |
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| 00:30.33 | diana | sabin: /join #mythtv-users |
| 00:30.41 | Kofif | get a KVM |
| 00:31.07 | sabin | diana, thanks |
| 00:31.15 | eeyore- | Kofif: kvm doesn't, unfortunately, send your input/output over the internet |
| 00:31.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: unless you buy the super-expensive ones that will relay VGA output |
| 00:31.35 | zinx | eeyore-: that's what synergy is for |
| 00:31.41 | Kofif | pptp > internet > kvm |
| 00:31.43 | zinx | eeyore-: uhm, oh |
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| 00:31.49 | afaik | hello fols |
| 00:31.52 | afaik | afaik here |
| 00:31.53 | zinx | eeyore-: video could be a problem :D |
| 00:31.56 | Kofif | im talking about the super expensive one :] |
| 00:32.00 | dos000 | eeyore-, the video is not important here. if i can login via the serial port i am fine |
| 00:32.12 | eeyore- | zinx: and don't forget the bare-metal cases where he needs bios, no os, etc. |
| 00:32.17 | Kofif | my friend has it on his boxes , pretty nice setup. |
| 00:32.20 | afaik | is there a way to limit my own bandwidth? My computer sucks up all the internet and leaves not one drop for the roommates |
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| 00:32.23 | diana | !ops *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.28 | eeyore- | dos000: so buy a serial terminal server already :-) |
| 00:32.29 | zinx | i'm not entirely sure what he's trying to do |
| 00:32.39 | zinx | but it sounds like ssh or vnc would be the best bet :/ |
| 00:32.42 | dos000 | eeyore-, wich one ... any recomendations ? |
| 00:32.45 | dvs | afaik: And the problem is.... ;-) |
| 00:32.50 | RichiH | hmm |
| 00:32.58 | eeyore- | zinx: you can't do ssh/vnc unless/until your OS is up :-) |
| 00:33.02 | afaik | I mean, my roomates will be doing something online, I download something, BAM! My download speed is 90kB/s, theirs drops down to lie 1B/s |
| 00:33.04 | afaik | er |
| 00:33.06 | dondelelcaro | diana: there doesn't appear to be anyone here with that hostmask. |
| 00:33.07 | afaik | 1 kb/s |
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| 00:33.15 | helix | yeah, sexy_girl is gone |
| 00:33.16 | Kofif | VNC is a bad idea |
| 00:33.24 | helix | but haha at spamming windows viruses in a linux channel |
| 00:33.28 | afaik | for some reason my computer get priority |
| 00:33.29 | RichiH | klined |
| 00:33.41 | eeyore- | dos000: you have so many choices. pick the ones that advertise in linux magazine. cyclades, commtrol, for example |
| 00:33.41 | zinx | eeyore-: yeah, but exporting any sort of built-in console is a pretty bad idea unless it's via a local box |
| 00:33.44 | diana | dondelelcaro: /lastlog sexy_girl |
| 00:33.45 | helix | mmm, wine |
| 00:33.55 | dondelelcaro | diana: yeah, RichiH already klined it. |
| 00:34.05 | cafuego | helix: Speaking of you, women.alioth... is on the Jnuary LinuxFormat UK. |
| 00:34.05 | eeyore- | dos000: sorry, comtrol.com |
| 00:34.08 | cafuego | s/on/in/ |
| 00:34.09 | andax | afaik: google for "wondershaper" the first hit is the answer |
| 00:34.10 | helix | woo |
| 00:34.19 | afaik | thans |
| 00:34.30 | cafuego | blah |
| 00:34.30 | dondelelcaro | foo |
| 00:34.33 | dondelelcaro | s/foo/bar/ |
| 00:34.38 | dondelelcaro | ok, that's really freaking annoying... |
| 00:34.39 | cafuego | s/blah/that I am annoying when I use this feature/ |
| 00:34.40 | eeyore- | zinx: right, so you have a serial terminal server, plugged into the serial management ports, the terminal server itself has password control ... |
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| 00:34.57 | jpriest | psmouse.o seems to be missing from my kernel 2.4 that was installed with my network installed debian 3.1. Did I misunderstand something somewhere? |
| 00:35.18 | zinx | eeyore-: unencrypted password control |
| 00:35.20 | afaik | not apt-gettable? |
| 00:35.20 | eeyore- | zinx: and since the terminal server is TCP/IP, you can do whatever firewalling you want :-) |
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| 00:35.50 | eeyore- | zinx: you can even put the terminal server behind a VPN, and do your authentication in multiple layers |
| 00:35.52 | zinx | eeyore-: and nothing reasonably priced is going to have something that's encrypted before bootup |
| 00:36.01 | z36ra | benjamindees, konq aint working at all now. |
| 00:36.09 | Kofif | eeyore->that's what i told him .. |
| 00:36.10 | zinx | eeyore-: and that would be the "via a local box" approach |
| 00:36.11 | Kofif | PPTP |
| 00:36.32 | cafuego | pptp is nice & insecure. |
| 00:36.37 | Kofif | pptp get a local ip and the vnc or whatever will work only on your LAN ip class. |
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| 00:36.39 | dos000 | eeyore-, do i need to set something specific in the servers (debian sarge) to outpu the login via rs232 ? |
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| 00:36.49 | Kofif | why insecure ? you got something to tell us about ? |
| 00:36.54 | dondelelcaro | dos000: no, you just need a console on that serial port |
| 00:36.55 | eeyore- | dos000: it's your motherboard bios that does that. tyan motherboard? |
| 00:37.03 | khermans_ | Anyone know why my ~/.bashrm is not running when I SSH into my box? |
| 00:37.05 | cafuego | Kofif: Yeah, the encryption is uses is flawed. |
| 00:37.11 | khermans_ | *.bashrc |
| 00:37.18 | dos000 | eeyore-, they are ibm 336 pizza boxes |
| 00:37.21 | cafuego | Kofif: vnc works fine through a secure ssh tunnel. |
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| 00:37.36 | benjamindees | z36ra, ... because? |
| 00:37.52 | dondelelcaro | dos000: FE, uncomment #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100; if the rs232 is ttyS0 |
| 00:38.46 | Kofif | Ok Ok done kernel recompile |
| 00:38.49 | eeyore- | dos000: well, if the bios itself doesn't support from-cold-boot output to serial port, there's only so much you can do. you have to wait for the OS to be somewhat up before you can any login. |
| 00:38.56 | staniel | im trying to set up dnsmasq, but ti seems to not be responding to DHCP requests |
| 00:38.58 | Kofif | configured everything , hope it will work ! :] |
| 00:39.03 | eeyore- | dos000: are you getting what we're trying to tell you? :-) |
| 00:39.19 | Kofif | again |
| 00:39.21 | Kofif | same error |
| 00:39.22 | Kofif | :| |
| 00:39.25 | Kofif | something is funny here |
| 00:39.33 | abrotman | funny how? |
| 00:39.36 | eeyore- | dos000: in other words, what's the benefit of serial login? if you had to wait for the OS to be up and running, you might as well ssh. |
| 00:39.40 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- i see that i need to change init scripts line. but i missed what the FE is for ! |
| 00:39.47 | dondelelcaro | dos000: For Example. |
| 00:39.51 | Kofif | i have reconfigured everything exactly as everybody adviced |
| 00:39.57 | Kofif | and again same error |
| 00:40.04 | Kofif | root |
| 00:40.06 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can get it to work with a serial console from grub loading on. |
| 00:40.30 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, do you have experience with ibm hardware ? |
| 00:40.32 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you just need to have grub connect to the serial console, and then the kernel use a serial console until login takes over. |
| 00:40.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: but you still can't do certain things like rebooting, for instance |
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| 00:40.43 | Lee__ | dose the sarge xorg backport contain the ati driver with 3d accelleration? |
| 00:40.46 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can't do that with a serial console anyway |
| 00:40.54 | benjamindees | Kofif, please find out exactly what your ide chipset is. |
| 00:41.06 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: with the pc-weasel you could get interactivity from bios boot on up ... |
| 00:41.18 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: including remote reboot |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | why is he not using a debian kernel ? |
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| 00:41.38 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yes, but that requires bios support, and it's no longer just a serial console. |
| 00:41.47 | dos000 | eeyore-, i dont think i can add a pci card to these systems :-( |
| 00:41.47 | Kofif | abrotman dose problem for my machine the keyboard dosnt work with it . |
| 00:42.10 | g33k | how do I exit a screen without closing my putty session? |
| 00:42.14 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: in most cases, grub+kernel+login and a remotely restartable power plug are good enough |
| 00:42.16 | z36ra | i'm out |
| 00:42.18 | z36ra | later |
| 00:42.20 | Kofif | g33k ctrl + a + d |
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| 00:42.25 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: otherwise you need one of the cool add in PCI cards that does the whole thing |
| 00:42.26 | abrotman | how do you recompile a kernel if your keyboard doesn't work ? |
| 00:42.35 | dos000 | eeyore-, hopefully i can get a machine stable enough to send a reboot via the eth |
| 00:42.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: that's the minimum for avoiding having to drive to work :-) (remote power socket) |
| 00:42.38 | Kofif | abrotman with the old one . |
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| 00:42.50 | Kofif | 2.2 |
| 00:42.51 | g33k | thanx |
| 00:42.56 | abrotman | Kofif: does 2.6.8 not support your kernel ? |
| 00:43.07 | Kofif | not working right on my system |
| 00:43.19 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yeah, it really just depends what you can afford; I'd much rather have it all than just a serial console... but a serial console is quite useful IME. |
| 00:43.25 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, what do i need to change in grub ? |
| 00:44.16 | dondelelcaro | dos000: you need a serial --unit=0 --speed=38400; terminal --timeout=10 console serial; or similar in your menu.lst |
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| 00:44.25 | abrotman | err not support your keyboard :) |
| 00:44.31 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then your kernel line needs to have a console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400; or similar. |
| 00:44.34 | FarrisG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.59 | abrotman | !info vncserver sarge |
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| 00:45.08 | dpkg | vncserver: (Virtual network computing server software), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.3.7-7 (sarge), Packaged size: 480 kB, Installed size: 1136 kB |
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| 00:45.11 | randomity | /join #perl |
| 00:45.27 | messia | randomity, :D |
| 00:45.28 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- thanks you guys. now i know what to google for ! |
| 00:45.35 | randomity | woops |
| 00:45.35 | khermans_ | Would anyone know why ~/.bashrc wouldn't execute on an SSH login? |
| 00:45.50 | abrotman | khermans_: did you read the file or .bash_profile ? |
| 00:46.03 | threat | khermans_, your shell isnt bash? |
| 00:46.04 | eeyore- | KVM-over-IP, http://www.kvms.com/startech_kvm_over_ip_switches.asp $2900 :-)))) |
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| 00:46.06 | dondelelcaro | khermans_: because .bashrc isn't executed on a login shell. man bash; |
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| 00:46.33 | threat | khermans_, I belive .profile is executed on logon though |
| 00:46.39 | eeyore- | that's a lot of mileage reimbursements |
| 00:46.47 | Kofif | check out /etc/skel |
| 00:46.56 | ryan` | is it possible to hardlink directories? |
| 00:47.03 | randomity | ryan`, no. |
| 00:47.11 | sagar_ | how come i cant find xserver-xorg on any of the stable repositories?? is it only in testing or something? |
| 00:47.14 | Kofif | err again kernel panic :[ |
| 00:47.18 | khermans_ | threat, the shell is bash |
| 00:47.19 | randomity | ryan`, why do you want to anyway? Symlinks are better |
| 00:47.29 | threat | ryan`, no, a hardlink is a directory in the sense of the inode table :) |
| 00:47.31 | Kofif | unable to mount root fs on unknown block |
| 00:47.46 | Kofif | why WHY WHY ! :[ what am i doing wrong |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | khermans_: you were given two answers |
| 00:47.58 | abrotman | well .. mine was more of a self help thing .. |
| 00:48.01 | randomity | Kofif, what's wrong? |
| 00:48.05 | threat | khermans_, yes, .bash_profile and .profile |
| 00:48.10 | eeyore- | Kofif: well, it's either the driver or the filesystem ... remember? |
| 00:48.16 | Kofif | VFS |
| 00:48.23 | Kofif | yeah well i got both configured |
| 00:48.24 | eeyore- | Kofif: did you remember to compile in the driver into the kernel? ext2? |
| 00:48.25 | threat | VFS is great |
| 00:48.31 | khermans_ | threat, if I use ~/.profile, will that also apply to other shells ? |
| 00:48.32 | Kofif | yes. |
| 00:48.33 | eeyore- | Kofif: prove it to me, baby |
| 00:48.36 | ryan` | randomity: I'm doing some development with subversion, keeping both a code tree and a base filesystem in svn. I can't use symlinks because svn handles them in a special way |
| 00:48.40 | randomity | e |
| 00:48.44 | abrotman | khermans_: did you even read what dondelelcaro said? |
| 00:48.48 | khermans_ | abrotman, yes |
| 00:49.01 | abrotman | khermans_: then you have your answer .. .bashrc will not work .. use .bash_profile |
| 00:49.03 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:49.04 | khermans_ | abauer, i am manning bash right now |
| 00:49.08 | threat | khermans_, I dont know :) man profile? but you can also have a if statement in there, if [ $TERM == "bash" ] or something |
| 00:49.39 | Kofif | :\ |
| 00:49.43 | abrotman | threat: he's been given the answer |
| 00:49.51 | threat | abrotman, ok :) |
| 00:49.54 | Kofif | i have selected |
| 00:49.57 | Kofif | every fs |
| 00:50.03 | abrotman | hrm .. what to eat |
| 00:50.05 | hborger | is there any way to pass artsd audioserver traffic through ssh |
| 00:50.08 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:50.12 | Kofif | hang on |
| 00:50.24 | randomity | hborger, does it run over TCP? |
| 00:50.27 | Kofif | whats the value name ? |
| 00:50.29 | staniel | could anyone help me with dnsmasq? |
| 00:50.34 | hborger | randomity, is that a trick question? |
| 00:50.46 | eeyore- | Kofif: CONFIG_EXT2_FS |
| 00:50.52 | Kofif | ok |
| 00:50.52 | khermans_ | hborger, yeah link it up with ssh |
| 00:50.54 | pureone | staniel: just state the problem :) |
| 00:50.57 | Kofif | let me reboot |
| 00:50.59 | Kofif | 2 secs |
| 00:51.05 | sagar_ | is xserver-xorg even on the debian servers at all? |
| 00:51.11 | randomity | hborger, no, I don't know. If it's TCP, you can use SSH, if it's UDP, you can't |
| 00:51.11 | Kofif | err im going to get a smoke , this will be fixed TODAY |
| 00:51.20 | eeyore- | Kofif: nine minutes |
| 00:51.25 | Kofif | time is : 02:51:24 AM |
| 00:51.28 | hborger | khermans_, I asked here cuz i couldn't find anythingonmy own, got any links? |
| 00:51.29 | abrotman | smoking is kind of like rebooting :) |
| 00:51.32 | eventide | sagar_: topic? |
| 00:51.36 | hborger | abrotman, lol |
| 00:51.47 | eeyore- | abrotman: not coma? |
| 00:51.51 | khermans_ | hborger, i know how to tunnel any TCP data through SSH with plink on windows -- should be the same here |
| 00:51.59 | khermans_ | hborger, google tunnel ssh tcp |
| 00:52.00 | eeyore- | abrotman: or is that like ... hybernating |
| 00:52.05 | abrotman | eeyore-: are you hitting on me again? |
| 00:52.13 | sagar_ | eventide: oooh =P |
| 00:52.19 | Kofif | well |
| 00:52.24 | Kofif | everything is set to y |
| 00:52.32 | hborger | khermans_, I basically want a remote application to use the local soundserver and output sound locally instead of remotely |
| 00:52.32 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y |
| 00:52.35 | staniel | pureone: the dhcp portion doesn't seem to responde to dhcp requests |
| 00:52.36 | kspath | apt-get install job fails |
| 00:52.45 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | kspath: you need a new source |
| 00:52.47 | hborger | khermans_, while I am logged in ssh -X to the remote machine |
| 00:53.02 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_PODIX_ACL=y |
| 00:53.09 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y ( even ) |
| 00:53.18 | khermans_ | hborger, basically you want the sound from your remote X session to be played locally? |
| 00:53.23 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y |
| 00:53.25 | pureone | staniel post your dnsmasq.conf into pastebin.com |
| 00:53.29 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP=y |
| 00:53.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: now show me the CONFIG_ for your chipset |
| 00:53.31 | abrotman | kspath: come on .. it was funny |
| 00:53.34 | abrotman | Kofif: STOP PASTING |
| 00:53.41 | Kofif | im not pasting im typing :] |
| 00:53.46 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:53.47 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | just paste the whole thing somewhere |
| 00:53.58 | dvs | here? |
| 00:54.00 | dvs | ;-) |
| 00:54.09 | khermans_ | hborger, i dont see why you have to use ssh though |
| 00:54.13 | hborger | khermans_, yes. sound server is configures and listening on tcp 16001. remote machine's user enviremont ARTS_SERVER=localmachine's ip:16001 but it cannot connect |
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| 00:54.37 | Kofif | how do we call that one ? |
| 00:54.40 | khermans_ | hborger, is that port firewalled? |
| 00:54.44 | hborger | khermans_, i suspect it can't connect because ssh isn't passing audioserver traffic, only X traffic |
| 00:54.45 | Kofif | the chipset value |
| 00:54.53 | hborger | khermans_, no firewalls exist on internal network |
| 00:55.06 | hborger | its totally cut off from theinternet |
| 00:55.20 | khermans_ | hborger, well you dont need ssh then |
| 00:55.41 | khermans_ | hborger, you need to connect the remote tcp/16001 to the local tcp/16001 |
| 00:55.43 | hborger | khermans_, it is configure properly, on both machines, the remote machine says conenction refused |
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| 00:55.57 | Kofif | ? |
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| 00:56.24 | khermans_ | hborger, yes because you are not allowing non-local users to connect to that port! |
| 00:56.27 | hborger | im sure its something trivial or stupid that i'ml looking over |
| 00:56.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: what kind of IDE controller is it? drive kind? PATA, SATA, what? |
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| 00:56.44 | hborger | hborger, how would I allow that to be otherwise |
| 00:56.49 | Kofif | i have both ordinary ATA and SATA |
| 00:57.01 | kspath | wget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-armed_router |
| 00:57.03 | eeyore- | four minutes |
| 00:57.08 | khermans_ | hborger, make sure that port tcp/16001 allows your local IP address range (192.168.x.x) and not only 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:57.10 | Kofif | and i am useing the old one the ordinary ide |
| 00:57.25 | hborger | khermans_, where would I check for this? |
| 00:57.30 | khermans_ | hborger, iptables |
| 00:57.38 | Kofif | why are we counting minutes ? :] |
| 00:57.40 | khermans_ | hborger, or in the sound config file |
| 00:57.48 | staniel | pureone: http://pastebin.com/501798 |
| 00:57.49 | hborger | khermans_, I have never configured ip tales |
| 00:57.57 | hborger | it shouldn't have any rules in it actually |
| 00:57.58 | khermans_ | hborger, something is telling it to only listen on 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:58.10 | hborger | hmm |
| 00:58.12 | hborger | ok |
| 00:58.18 | khermans_ | hborger, try this --> nc localhost 16001 |
| 00:58.21 | hborger | let me find out where artsd leeps its conf |
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| 00:58.44 | hborger | nc? |
| 00:58.55 | khermans_ | hborger, then, on the other machine, try --> nc myOtherHost 16001 |
| 00:59.04 | hborger | what package provides nc |
| 00:59.15 | khermans_ | hborger, yea --> aptitude install netcat ? |
| 00:59.16 | eeyore- | bbl |
| 00:59.28 | hborger | done, hold |
| 00:59.32 | pureone | staniel: seems ok it should work |
| 00:59.59 | staniel | pureone: umm... well... it doesn't? |
| 01:00.02 | khermans_ | hborger, nc will help you determine what is going on with that port |
| 01:00.10 | hborger | localhost [127.0.0.1] 16001 (?) : Connection refused |
| 01:00.11 | hborger | thanks |
| 01:00.14 | hborger | good tool |
| 01:00.20 | hborger | i wonder wtf is up |
| 01:00.29 | pureone | staniel: dnsmasq is listening on port 67? |
| 01:00.43 | khermans_ | hborger, is this a TCP server or UDP server? |
| 01:00.52 | hborger | i don't know man |
| 01:00.52 | staniel | pureone: umm... I didn't set any non-standard port |
| 01:00.56 | hborger | its artsd -n |
| 01:01.01 | khermans_ | hborger, netstat -al | grep -i art |
| 01:01.13 | hborger | nothing |
| 01:01.20 | pureone | staniel: check if it is |
| 01:01.27 | staniel | pureone: how? |
| 01:01.31 | hborger | lol |
| 01:01.33 | hborger | how the hell |
| 01:01.36 | hborger | its not even running |
| 01:01.37 | hborger | hold on |
| 01:01.41 | pureone | netstat -tupln | grep dnsmasq |
| 01:01.43 | khermans_ | hborger, ???~?~? |
| 01:02.04 | staniel | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 26382/dnsmasq |
| 01:02.14 | pureone | then yes it is |
| 01:02.19 | hborger | ok here we go |
| 01:02.39 | star-trekio | whos got a debian powered site I can look at? |
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| 01:02.46 | staniel | pureone: so why doesn't dhclient on the client system not get a dhcp response? |
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| 01:03.27 | hborger | nc localhost 16001 outputs MCOP aRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa86md5aut... |
| 01:03.36 | pureone | staniel: here is my dnsmasq diff'ed to yours http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=501809 |
| 01:03.40 | hborger | so at least it can connect locally |
| 01:03.43 | hborger | sound works too |
| 01:03.48 | hborger | let me test it from the other machine |
| 01:04.10 | pureone | mine seems to work, so i dont really get it... |
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| 01:04.24 | pureone | you do see the dhcp broadcasts with tcpdump -i eth1 right ? |
| 01:04.53 | staniel | hmm... hold on then... im gonna try another cable.. just to see |
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| 01:05.07 | hborger | $>nc desktop 16001 on remote machine (desktop is my local machin'es name) MCOPaRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa8md5au so it can connect remotely now |
| 01:05.08 | hborger | huh |
| 01:05.11 | hborger | i wonder wtf is goin on |
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| 01:05.52 | MrRagga | hi, i can't find zcat, which package do i have to install? |
| 01:06.10 | dvs | !find zcat |
| 01:06.22 | staniel | pureone: umm.. on the client or server side? |
| 01:06.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'zcat' (7 of 12): (/bin/zcat) in utils/gzip ;; (/usr/bin/dictzcat) in text/dictzip ;; (/usr/bin/zzcat) in utils/zziplib-bin ;; (/bin/bzcat, /usr/bin/bzcat) in utils/bzip2 ;; (/usr/lib/klibc/bin/zcat) in libs/klibc-utils ;; (/usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_zcat) in utils/backuppc ;; (/etc/fish.d/completions/{bzcat.fish|zcat.fish}) in shells/fish. |
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| 01:06.44 | dvs | MrRagga: looks like gzip |
| 01:07.04 | MrRagga | dvs: thanks a lot |
| 01:07.06 | hborger | khermans_, if you have been following what i've been saying, then apparantly remote machine can connect to local machine's sounder server, but when I play something, it plays, but there is no audio. local audio however works |
| 01:07.23 | dvs | MrRagga: You're welcome |
| 01:07.28 | MrRagga | dvs: apt-file search zcat didn't show me the result |
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| 01:07.44 | dvs | MrRagga: use apt-cache search |
| 01:07.57 | Kofif | <hborger> did you put the volume up ? |
| 01:08.00 | Kofif | in the mixer |
| 01:08.16 | khermans_ | hborger, ok now that you know it can accept remote TCP streams |
| 01:08.20 | Kofif | i forgot the name of that package . |
| 01:08.25 | hborger | volume levels are perfectly fine |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | g72:/var/www# apt-cache search zcat |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | dictzip - Compression utility for dictionary databases |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | zope-textindexng2 - full text index for Zope |
| 01:08.28 | khermans_ | hborger, we need to link the two ports in a tunnel |
| 01:08.28 | Kofif | sndconfig ? |
| 01:08.28 | MrRagga | dvs ^^^^ |
| 01:08.37 | hborger | khermans_, ok, lets links em |
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| 01:08.42 | khermans_ | hborger, :-) |
| 01:08.46 | staniel | pureone: no go on the tcpdump |
| 01:08.47 | hborger | hehe |
| 01:08.50 | branivado | Guerin, hello |
| 01:08.50 | dvs | hmmmmmmm |
| 01:09.04 | pureone | staniel: possible physical problem then? |
| 01:09.08 | benjamindees | any tips on adding a printer to debian wine? |
| 01:09.44 | pureone | brb |
| 01:09.47 | branivado | hello pureone |
| 01:10.00 | staniel | pureone: wouldn't think so... cause dhcp3-server was able to get requests |
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| 01:10.10 | pureone | hello branivado |
| 01:10.18 | dvs | hello ball |
| 01:10.45 | Solet | benjamindees: one last question with the mkisofs... if the directory i'm copying is a dvd-video disk... i'm guessing i want to use the -dvd-video flag... |
| 01:10.47 | hborger | khermans_, what keywords should I be looking on google for, I can't seme to find anything with 'tunneling ssh tcp ports' and combinations of such terms |
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| 01:11.06 | c7g | anyone knows an irc server that 8080 port is open ? |
| 01:11.08 | c7g | ? |
| 01:11.16 | grumpydog | Ever thought? 766 people in this channel and who it would be if we were all physically in the same room at an international convention, It would be great :) |
| 01:11.27 | grumpydog | *how |
| 01:11.37 | benjamindees | Solet, I'm not sure about that, sorry |
| 01:11.49 | khermans_ | hborger, you dont need ssh |
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| 01:11.54 | hborger | no it wouldn't. unless there was free weed |
| 01:11.54 | khermans_ | hborger, remove those terms |
| 01:11.56 | andax | c7g: what do you want to do exactly? |
| 01:12.02 | Kofif | O o O o O i hope this time the compile will Work! :] |
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| 01:12.11 | deepspaceant | guys i keep getting htdocs/.htaccess: RewriteEngine not allowed here - how do i fix this i keep trying but its not working |
| 01:12.15 | staniel | pureone: oops sorry, for some reason it wants to use bootp |
| 01:12.16 | Solet | grumpydog: i give it less than an hour before a brawl breaks out |
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| 01:12.19 | staniel | maybe thats why its not responding |
| 01:12.42 | grumpydog | c7g irc'd port on 8080 not really that is generally http port forward |
| 01:12.42 | Kofif | deepspaceant: That's about #apache |
| 01:12.50 | deepspaceant | #apache is quiet:( |
| 01:12.52 | grumpydog | Solet, heh yeah I doubt it though |
| 01:12.57 | m1ke | any thoughts on why it takes so long to mount an nfs share? |
| 01:13.01 | m1ke | dns resolves fine |
| 01:13.06 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:13.08 | Kofif | kernel panic |
| 01:13.10 | Kofif | same reason |
| 01:14.01 | abrotman | why can't you use a normal keyboard? |
| 01:14.11 | abrotman | because 2.6.8 doesn't support your new keyboard? |
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| 01:14.31 | andax | Kofif: type lspci |grep IDE and double check you have the correct chipset support in the kernel, then try adding the root=/dev/hdXY option to the kernel. |
| 01:14.31 | Kofif | dont know why its problematic. |
| 01:14.44 | grumpydog | abrotman, *nod* 4 wheel mouse works just fine |
| 01:14.48 | benjamindees | m1ke, power failures on the nfs server? |
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| 01:15.03 | abrotman | grumpydog: it's a keyboard isn't it ? |
| 01:15.24 | m1ke | no, why? server is up...nfs finally connects, but curious why so long |
| 01:15.45 | grumpydog | abrotman, I have np with debian and config...only ever asked once here for help in 5 years. |
| 01:15.47 | grumpydog | :) |
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| 01:16.14 | benjamindees | m1ke, firewall perhaps |
| 01:16.25 | m1ke | nope... |
| 01:16.32 | m1ke | maybe firewall on client? |
| 01:16.34 | m1ke | hmmm |
| 01:16.37 | m1ke | ill check |
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| 01:17.04 | Kofif | ok im cleaning up everything deleting everything and starting again :] |
| 01:17.09 | Kofif | bbl |
| 01:17.33 | m1ke | nope...stopped client firewall...same issue |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | anyhting in the logs? |
| 01:18.05 | staniel | how do I stop dhclient from using bootp |
| 01:18.10 | grumpydog | dns has nothing to do it unless Bind is misconfigured RDNS could be the problem but for tld you have to normally wait 24 -48 hours for it to take effect. |
| 01:18.29 | grumpydog | Be patient |
| 01:18.51 | drp | which family of processors do the 386 kernel images encase |
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| 01:19.00 | abrotman | drp: that's a little vague |
| 01:19.02 | benjamindees | is it normal for bash to become utterly useless dealing with the same program in /usr/local/bin and in /usr/bin due to its stupid cache? |
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| 01:19.08 | grumpydog | drp pIII upwards |
| 01:19.08 | asg | !vagueness |
| 01:19.08 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
| 01:19.12 | Kofif | ok deleted all traces for 2.6.X |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | grumpydog: no .. |
| 01:19.18 | m1ke | i thought it was lies |
| 01:19.18 | abrotman | that's not even close |
| 01:19.19 | drp | I'm wanting to upgrade my kernel but am not sure whether i need k7 or 386 |
| 01:19.25 | abrotman | drp: what is your CPU ? |
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| 01:19.42 | drp | iirc I think I have an athlon 1.4 thunderbird |
| 01:19.44 | Daedalus_ | drp: 386 and up. it won't be optimized for better processors (prentium pro, etc) |
| 01:19.47 | abrotman | drp: then k7 |
| 01:20.14 | Kofif | drp cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.18 | abrotman | drp: 386 is the LCD for generic linux kernels |
| 01:20.18 | andax | drp: if you just "think" then type cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.20 | grumpydog | abrotman, np you take the call here :) |
| 01:20.26 | Daedalus_ | drp: sorry for the lag. Yeah, you want k7 |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | grumpydog: good .. you were wrong :) |
| 01:20.41 | nevyn | Lowest Common Denominator |
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| 01:20.56 | abrotman | nevyn: yes .. that's what i meant |
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| 01:21.10 | nevyn | abrotman: took me 15 seconds to get there. |
| 01:21.11 | drp | i posted the specs in #flood |
| 01:21.23 | abrotman | drp: you have to tell us BEFORE you do that :) |
| 01:21.29 | andax | :) |
| 01:21.32 | drp | lol ... sorry |
| 01:21.35 | drp | i'll post again |
| 01:21.35 | dvs | drp: or use paste |
| 01:21.37 | nrdb | I have a problem with my raid5 setup. today my md1: is missing hdb2, in the /var/log/messages there is "Jan 12 10:10:55 mini-cl kernel: md: kicking non-fresh hdb2 from array!" can someone please explain this? can it be fixed? should I replace that drive? |
| 01:21.43 | falkon | find is fucked up. I'm trying to search for any file that ends in .mp3 in a certain directory. I type "find /part/to/files -name *.mp3" and it's not working |
| 01:21.51 | falkon | what do I do to get this |
| 01:21.51 | abrotman | drp: yes .. you want k7 |
| 01:22.03 | falkon | the man page has been no help whatsoever |
| 01:22.13 | drp | ok |
| 01:22.15 | drp | thanks abrotman Kofif Daedalus_ andax |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | falkon: and what do you get? |
| 01:22.31 | falkon | nothing |
| 01:22.49 | falkon | zsh: no matches found: *.mp3 |
| 01:22.59 | falkon | even though there's mp3 files in there |
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| 01:23.16 | tengulre11 | HI,ALL! |
| 01:23.24 | andax | drp: go for the k7 |
| 01:23.30 | abrotman | falkon: does zsh support globbing ? |
| 01:23.41 | falkon | globbing? |
| 01:23.42 | Kofif | HI :] |
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| 01:24.05 | abrotman | falkon: roughly .. the * |
| 01:24.23 | falkon | dunno |
| 01:24.25 | Phated | globglobglob. |
| 01:24.29 | Phated | #zsh! |
| 01:24.35 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.35 | dpkg | somebody said qotd139 was <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 01:24.41 | abrotman | why .. every time?!?! |
| 01:24.47 | zinx | falkon: are they .mp3 or .MP3 or .Mp3 or .mP3? |
| 01:24.48 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 01:24.50 | staniel | pureone: ?? |
| 01:24.50 | Phated | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.50 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
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| 01:24.59 | pureone | back |
| 01:25.02 | raf256 | lol |
| 01:25.05 | andax | falkon: the correct syntax is find /media/mp3 -name '*.mp3' |
| 01:25.30 | zinx | **/*.mp3 will work in zsh, if they're in subdirectories |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | andax: his original should work also |
| 01:26.13 | raf256 | !qotd0 |
| 01:26.13 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 01:26.21 | pureone | staniel: i dont really see the problem but you should really be able to see dhcp requests in tcpdump |
| 01:26.30 | staniel | pureone: sorry, I do |
| 01:26.41 | pureone | staniel: what was it? |
| 01:26.47 | abrotman | ok .. that's just freaking odd .. find . -name *.mp3 works .. but if you use a path .. you need find ./path/ -name '*.mp3; |
| 01:26.53 | staniel | 20:26:37.485778 IP 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 00:0f:b0:03:a5:27 (oui Unknown), length: 300 |
| 01:26.55 | abrotman | bah .. s/;/'/ |
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| 01:27.04 | grumpydog | bootstrapper |
| 01:27.10 | Kofif | you can updatedb;locate mp3 |
| 01:27.12 | Kofif | no ? |
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| 01:27.21 | falkon | I need to full path |
| 01:27.27 | falkon | and locate won't give it to me |
| 01:27.29 | abrotman | Kofif: well .. you can trim it even more |
| 01:27.31 | Kofif | that's full path. |
| 01:27.46 | falkon | no wait |
| 01:27.52 | falkon | I need to search in a certain path |
| 01:27.54 | Kofif | locate mp3 >>mp3.lst |
| 01:27.57 | staniel | and it keeps saying that until the client fails |
| 01:28.01 | falkon | and then have it spit out the whole path |
| 01:28.12 | staniel | pureone: maybe its dhclient.conf problems? |
| 01:28.22 | falkon | find /path -name '*.mp3' | cat >> file |
| 01:28.24 | Kofif | find /path/ -iname '*.mp3' >> /tmp/mp3.lst |
| 01:28.33 | Kofif | no need to use cat |
| 01:28.36 | pureone | possible |
| 01:28.40 | Kofif | directly pipe it to file. |
| 01:28.51 | staniel | pureone: could you pastebin yours? |
| 01:28.55 | abrotman | !uuoc falkon |
| 01:28.57 | falkon | >> is append, right? |
| 01:29.06 | phogg | falkon: yes |
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| 01:29.12 | abrotman | useless .. but original :) |
| 01:29.18 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501809 |
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| 01:29.43 | deadcat | can i share my printer on my linux box to a windows machine without samba? just use some ipp or http protocol? |
| 01:29.57 | grumpydog | * chou-chou (i=peanut@i.screwed.your.sister.while.you.were.a-w-a-y.org) has joined #debian <---- Nice you are welcome to my 38 year old sister :) |
| 01:30.08 | staniel | pureone: dhclient.conf? |
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| 01:30.22 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 01:30.23 | phogg | I could do this forever: cat /dev/zero | cat | tee /dev/null | sort -n | uniq | cat > /dev/null |
| 01:30.28 | abrotman | deadcat: lpr .. if you're lucky |
| 01:30.38 | abrotman | phogg: you dork :) |
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| 01:30.44 | grumpydog | omg phogg h3c SoldierX |
| 01:31.03 | deadcat | abrotman: i have cups right now |
| 01:31.04 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:31.09 | Kofif | kernel panics |
| 01:31.13 | dvs | it worked? |
| 01:31.14 | SperMite | what line do you add in fstab to get a usbstick to work? |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | deadcat: what size? |
| 01:31.27 | abrotman | !tell SperMite about vfatrw |
| 01:32.05 | andax | SperMite: a good guess would be "/dev/sda1 /mnt/stick vfat defaults 0 0" |
| 01:32.08 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:32.09 | deadcat | i am also having problem sending outgoing mail with postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo |
| 01:32.40 | phogg | unless it's uba. |
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| 01:32.48 | pureone | staniel: one sec sorry |
| 01:33.50 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501843 thats it everything is commented out. all my dhcpclients work (windows and linux) |
| 01:33.51 | benjamindees | is anyone successfully using wine on SID? |
| 01:34.37 | pipeline | Yes, lots of people. |
| 01:34.46 | Sexy | hi people, i have a problem with "synaptic", it reports errors when i try to add some packages...i can copy/paste that report...but on private... |
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| 01:35.07 | asg | Sexy: /msg dpkg paster |
| 01:35.08 | staniel | pureone: damn, still doesn't work :( |
| 01:35.09 | benjamindees | what might I use to configure it? is there no longer a wine.conf? |
| 01:35.27 | pipeline | benjamindees: No, there is not a wine.conf. Use winecfg. |
| 01:35.31 | boxy | hey any ideas why all gnome apps take a bajillion minutes to load? |
| 01:35.47 | threat | boxy, aye!! :) hows the network going? :) |
| 01:35.53 | abrotman | boxy: because you're running gnome on a P133 ? |
| 01:35.57 | staniel | boxy: change your hostname lately? |
| 01:36.03 | boxy | threat, pretty good had to use an old driver |
| 01:36.03 | dvs | boxy: a 486 even... |
| 01:36.06 | boxy | staniel, don't believe i have |
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| 01:36.13 | boxy | dvs, abrotman P4 3.0 ghz |
| 01:36.13 | Kofiko | ? |
| 01:36.38 | Kofif | :] back , had to switch IP on lan |
| 01:36.39 | abrotman | boxy: well .. then there's something wrong .. my laptop which is slower .. doesn't take nearly that long to load gnome apps |
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| 01:36.46 | Kofif | abrotman can i pm you ? |
| 01:36.53 | solcito69 | te invito al primer foro de sexo gratis de la Argentina http://ezpartako3000.forospace.com hay fotos! y videos de gente comun! |
| 01:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: keep it in the channel please |
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| 01:37.01 | Kofif | ah |
| 01:37.02 | abrotman | wow .. spanish spam! |
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| 01:37.04 | boxy | abrotman, yeah heh it takes a couple minutes just to load rhythmbox (gnome) but any other app loads fine |
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| 01:37.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:37.15 | abrotman | if only i knew what he was giving away .. i'd give some to asg |
| 01:37.24 | Kofif | i want to give u root ssh , i cant seem to find the problem |
| 01:37.28 | Kofif | maybe you could find it. |
| 01:37.30 | abrotman | boxy: doesn't rhythmbox have to load your library? |
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| 01:37.47 | boxy | abrotman, i dont have but a couple cd's on my comp at the moment |
| 01:37.54 | boxy | its not just that its gnome apps in general |
| 01:37.56 | abrotman | Kofif: you sohuld never EVER give root to someone on IRC |
| 01:37.57 | Sexy | asg, and???I pasted it... |
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| 01:38.05 | threat | Kofif, I'll take root too thanbx :LP |
| 01:38.07 | Kofif | lol :] |
| 01:38.10 | Kofif | i know |
| 01:38.19 | Kofif | but im sitting for like 4 hours now |
| 01:38.23 | threat | abrotman, except me :) he should give me root |
| 01:38.25 | abrotman | boxy: well .. loads in about 2 seconds for me :) |
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| 01:38.29 | Kofif | on the same freaking problem and im getting fed up. |
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| 01:38.43 | boxy | abrotman, haha any ideas on what could cause this? my hostname has been set to debian since i installed it |
| 01:38.46 | abrotman | Kofif: i still don't understand why you're recompiling |
| 01:38.56 | Kofif | because the image wont help |
| 01:38.56 | asg | Sexy: pasted it where? |
| 01:38.56 | abrotman | boxy: did you try a strace? |
| 01:38.58 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:39.04 | drp | ok so I just installed my new kernel ... do I need to reinstall the nvidia kernel module because when I booted up the my new 2.6 kernel it said somethign to the extent that it couldn't find or load it |
| 01:39.12 | Sexy | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
| 01:39.13 | boxy | abrotman, nope but i will now |
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| 01:39.16 | Sexy | asg, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
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| 01:39.20 | Solet | ok i have a problem with my mkisofs... the output file will be larger than 4 gig... how can i combind the tar command to make a tar family as it builds the iso so i can have multiple smaller chained tars instead of one huge file that wont fit |
| 01:39.23 | dvs | Kofif: The image won't help what? |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | boxy: granted .. i have nothing in ryhtmbox .. but still ... |
| 01:39.42 | Kofif | dosnt work dont know why. |
| 01:39.52 | Kofif | and the image is 2.6.8 |
| 01:40.13 | abrotman | Kofif: what doesn't work ? |
| 01:40.15 | boxy | abrotman, i just removed my playlist |
| 01:40.20 | boxy | and it's still takin forever to load |
| 01:40.23 | Kofif | im not into useing vuln kernels. |
| 01:40.29 | boxy | accept(11, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=" <- this is where its sitting in strace |
| 01:40.33 | Kofif | abrotman the kernel / keyboard / FS |
| 01:40.37 | abrotman | Kofif: are you fucking telling me .. you're doing all this shit because you can't read a fucking DSA ? |
| 01:40.49 | Kofif | CANT READ? |
| 01:40.55 | Kofif | you want me to paste the CONFIG |
| 01:41.01 | Kofif | take a look |
| 01:41.03 | abrotman | do you know what a DSA is ? |
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| 01:41.19 | asg | Sexy: looks like the CD has errors. Try copying the deb to /tmp and see if the same thing occurs. |
| 01:41.26 | Kofif | maybe we call it something else here , im not from the US |
| 01:41.34 | joeyy | sweet my system is up look at my hardware http://nsevil.ath.cx/sysinfo.html |
| 01:41.36 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 01:41.37 | dpkg | methinks dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.38 | drp | !DSA |
| 01:41.38 | dpkg | dsa is probably Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.54 | abrotman | boxy: why is the path .. blank? |
| 01:42.03 | boxy | abrotman, my guess is as good as yours |
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| 01:42.09 | boxy | maybe thats where its stalling? who knows |
| 01:43.12 | Kofif | that's not helpfull |
| 01:43.14 | drp | do I need to update my nvidia kernel module when I upgrade linux kernels ? |
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| 01:43.18 | cafuego | !ops joeyy is a spammer |
| 01:43.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: joeyy is a spammer |
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| 01:44.38 | Sexy | asg, i think that CD is OK, but, few months ago i changed mount point of cdrom, and i had problems with synaptic, because he couldn't find cdrom...then i fixed it, but i think that i not fixed everything... |
| 01:44.39 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@68-185-138-107.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:44.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
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| 01:45.37 | asg | Sexy: perhaps. Can you view it from a terminal session. i.e., mount the mountpoint, ls /foo |
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| 01:46.10 | newbie2debian | hello |
| 01:46.12 | drp | I'm assumign you do but I'm not sure |
| 01:46.19 | abrotman | boxy: i can show you those two lines from when i run it |
| 01:46.25 | abrotman | boxy: /join #flood |
| 01:46.30 | newbie2debian | what is the command line that will allow me to configure my display from the bash prompt please? |
| 01:46.44 | benjamindees | !drxx |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:46.45 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:47.00 | mentor | hmm |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | name that tune? |
| 01:47.30 | newbie2debian | thanks |
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| 01:49.06 | asg | abrotman: I can name that tune in one note. Leaders and Followers -- Bad Religion |
| 01:49.21 | abrotman | asg: i think you're wrong .. mentor seems like a YMCA kind of guy |
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| 01:49.42 | Solet | whats the command for tarring the file "this.file" into a set of tarballs that are each 250MB big? and names like this001.tar this002.tar etc? |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | Solet: split ? |
| 01:50.00 | asg | Solet: split(1) |
| 01:50.14 | dondelelcaro | Solet: tar to split, then cat to tar. |
| 01:50.33 | asg | dondelelcaro: that so sounds like the lyrics to a KMFDM tune |
| 01:50.35 | odla | abrotman: do you have 12 fingers? |
| 01:50.39 | boxy | odb, abrotman is a computer ;) |
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| 01:50.42 | dondelelcaro | odla: he's polydactylic. |
| 01:50.45 | cafuego | odla: abrotman is a perl script. |
| 01:50.47 | abrotman | boxy: do you want to see those lines? |
| 01:50.50 | abrotman | i am not a bot! |
| 01:50.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 01:50.56 | boxy | kidding. |
| 01:51.00 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.01 | cafuego | abrotman: script, not bot ;-) |
| 01:51.01 | foo | I have having some weird problems with grip. It doesn't rip or output anything. Here is the verbose output ... http://pastebin.com/501829 - any ideas? It goes through every track in about 1 second. |
| 01:51.05 | mfrisch | cyborg |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | cafuego: then i must be a really good script! |
| 01:51.21 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.27 | abrotman | boxy: /j #flood |
| 01:51.28 | smacnay | are there still issues with the Debian kernel .deb packages newer than 2.6.12? |
| 01:51.35 | odla | abrotman would be an abusive bot |
| 01:51.38 | cafuego | abrotman: Didn'y you win someone the obfuscated perl code contest in 1996? ;-) |
| 01:51.41 | abrotman | i would not! |
| 01:51.44 | odla | and he would pick fights with ravenbird |
| 01:51.45 | boxy | abrotman, so what to do about it? |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | cafuego: no .. that would have been my SPARC asm days .. |
| 01:51.58 | odla | and make him bite the pillow |
| 01:52.01 | odla | ha ha |
| 01:52.04 | boxy | i cant just throw it in there can i? lol |
| 01:52.15 | abrotman | boxy: no idea .. are you on testing/unstable ? |
| 01:52.21 | boxy | unstable |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:52.37 | boxy | but abrotman even when i was on ubuntu i had the exact same problem |
| 01:52.40 | boxy | abrotman, bts? |
| 01:52.43 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:52.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 01:52.56 | abrotman | boxy: do you restore your $HOME when you change distros ? |
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| 01:53.02 | boxy | nope |
| 01:53.17 | boxy | just my ~/music ;) |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | boxy: maybe it's a bug in gnome2.12 ? |
| 01:53.47 | boxy | maybe |
| 01:53.59 | abrotman | i'm running testing .. so i'm still on 2.10 |
| 01:54.02 | boxy | anyone having problems with stability with firefox 1.5 |
| 01:54.08 | abrotman | everyone? |
| 01:54.17 | odla | boxy: i am |
| 01:54.19 | odla | use links2 |
| 01:54.20 | Solet | dondelelcaro: holy crap... this has not gotten so difficult that i think i may even have you stumped... ok i have a 4.7 gig dvd that i need the iso of (mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd) due to size restrictions of fat32 i am needing to tar it and split the tar into a chain of them (preferably 250MB), again because of size restrictions on the FS this all must be done in one line of command cause it cant get written to the hdd... |
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| 01:54.43 | boxy | odla, so your having the same firefox problem it just kinda hangs? lol |
| 01:54.44 | Solet | i have a gig of ram and no swap cause this machine is not normally a linux machine |
| 01:54.59 | Solet | s/not/now |
| 01:55.02 | odla | boxy: i've had it unexpectedly quit on me several times |
| 01:55.04 | boxy | abrotman, i might switch to testing |
| 01:55.13 | boxy | odla mine just hangs like a darche |
| 01:55.13 | abrotman | boxy: you can't downgrade |
| 01:55.15 | odla | boxy: i only use ff 1.5 when i can't use links2 or dillo |
| 01:55.22 | boxy | abrotman, why not |
| 01:55.37 | odla | boxy: you'll have to reinstall |
| 01:55.38 | asg | boxy: does 'ctrl+alt+f1' and then back to X (usually ctrl+alt+f7) fix things? |
| 01:55.45 | abrotman | boxy: it doesn't quite work that way .. i mean .. you'd have to purge gnome .. change your sources .. then *attempt* a downgrade |
| 01:56.13 | boxy | asg, nope |
| 01:56.15 | boxy | abrotman, heh |
| 01:56.20 | boxy | hell if im reinstalling this |
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| 01:56.39 | boxy | i have no cd's and am on wifi so i have to take my machine downstairs and chill there forever while i do a net install |
| 01:56.51 | boxy | i could always put it on testing and wait for testing to catch up ;) |
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| 01:57.15 | abrotman | you could .. but like i said . you'd have to purge gnome .. then try to isntall gnome from testing .. and it still might not solve the issue |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:57.39 | boxy | yeah abrotman, no i didnt check it yet cause firefox is being homosexual |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | boxy: now now .. that's a bad word |
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| 01:57.53 | cyber1|xoom | can someone please go through the steps of setting up a secondary name server with me? |
| 01:57.54 | Solet | tar -cvvf file.tar | grep mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd |
| 01:57.57 | odla | boxy: ff is a homosexual? |
| 01:58.00 | odla | ha ah |
| 01:58.11 | blockd | Solet: have you tried the -split-output option of mkisofs? They're still big but should fit. |
| 01:58.12 | boxy | Sorry if i offended anyone <3 |
| 01:58.20 | Solet | that will return a tar file with the image file of /hd/cd in it right |
| 01:58.31 | boxy | what about ff is a flamboyiant coked out hooker |
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| 01:58.34 | Kofif | yet agai |
| 01:58.34 | boxy | ?* |
| 01:58.35 | Kofif | n |
| 01:58.37 | Kofif | same problem |
| 01:58.43 | Solet | blockd??? there's a split-output? |
| 01:58.51 | boxy | abrotman, so how do i purge gnome? |
| 01:58.51 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: Not likely. But the DNS howto could help you with that. |
| 01:58.57 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 01:58.57 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 01:59.04 | cyber1|xoom | Flimzy: Where can I find that.? |
| 01:59.10 | blockd | Solet: either that or an elaborate hoax in my mkisofs man page ;) |
| 01:59.11 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: google.com |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | boxy: probably want to kill gtk too |
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| 01:59.26 | Kofif | removed images , reinstalled kernel IMAGES from APT-GET option , configured boot loader , rebooted , and POW " login : _ " BUY the keyboard is not responding at all. |
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| 01:59.33 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: might also be called the bind howtoo |
| 01:59.42 | Solet | any paramaters that go with it? or just mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd -split-output ?? |
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| 01:59.58 | tengulre11 | hi,all! I want running a progrmm without root , how to write the shell script in /etc/rc.local? |
| 02:00.11 | abrotman | you can't |
| 02:00.11 | boxy | abrotman, is it often that unstable messes up? |
| 02:00.33 | asg | tengulre11: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | boxy: it's called unstable for a reason |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | asg: but he's not root |
| 02:00.40 | Kofif | abrotman ^^ |
| 02:00.41 | boxy | abrotman, i understand that, but its basically how gentoo is and theres never really much of a problem with that? |
| 02:00.42 | abrotman | oh wait .. i misunderstood that |
| 02:00.48 | asg | abrotman: then he can use sudo if need be |
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| 02:01.03 | abrotman | Kofif: until i can figure out why you're trying to compile a kernel ..... |
| 02:01.08 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 02:01.09 | boxy | abrotman, and then stable is just wayyy to old for a desktop in my opinion anyways |
| 02:01.10 | Kofif | NOT COMPILING |
| 02:01.21 | Kofif | its the image from apt-get |
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| 02:01.28 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
| 02:01.33 | abrotman | Kofif: is the keyboard usb? |
| 02:01.37 | Kofif | PS |
| 02:01.38 | phogg | FarmerTom: man tar. |
| 02:01.47 | abrotman | i htink your keyboard is broken |
| 02:01.54 | blockd | Solet: it's in the man page. None that I'm aware of but you need to use -o as well. |
| 02:01.57 | phogg | FarmerTom: specifically, see -u. |
| 02:01.57 | Kofif | it works with kernel 2.2 |
| 02:02.01 | abrotman | boxy: sometimes ... stuff in sid just explodes! |
| 02:02.09 | Kofif | works with windows 4.0 5.0 and xp. |
| 02:02.09 | FarmerTom | phogg, I'm currently on Windows (but using the GNU tar) so I don't have man. |
| 02:02.11 | FarmerTom | Okay, thanks |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | Kofif: did you install module-init-tools ? |
| 02:02.15 | boxy | abrotman, :P |
| 02:02.17 | pipeline | boxy: Sid is very much like using Fedora Core :| |
| 02:02.18 | Kofif | nothing broken ! |
| 02:02.24 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 02:02.24 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 02:02.27 | boxy | pipeline, heh what do you use testing? |
| 02:02.35 | phogg | FarmerTom: google for it. Lots of people host man pages |
| 02:02.46 | pipeline | boxy: Unstable, duh |
| 02:02.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 02:02.57 | Kofif | yes. |
| 02:03.04 | blockd | Solet: also, I'd put that option right after the mkisofs command, not after /hd/cd or whatever that is |
| 02:03.14 | abrotman | boxy: i'm a testing user . i'm in the minority of the regulars here |
| 02:03.24 | boxy | heh |
| 02:03.29 | Kofif | omg is pissing down with rain :] |
| 02:03.30 | Solet | whats the filesystem for dvd media? |
| 02:03.33 | Solet | i cant mount it :( |
| 02:03.36 | boxy | so most of the regulars use unstable? |
| 02:03.40 | pipeline | boxy: You see, abrotman likes his system to actually work. |
| 02:03.44 | boxy | haha |
| 02:03.49 | Solet | ops nvm it auto mounted |
| 02:03.56 | Solet | i feel retarded... (more so than normal) |
| 02:03.57 | Kofif | boxy i was on unstable for a long time a while back. |
| 02:04.07 | abrotman | boxy: yes .. but i like a working system .. i hate dicking with this package or that package .. that's the reason i started using debian ... cause stuff just works :) |
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| 02:04.15 | boxy | hah |
| 02:04.20 | boxy | yeah so far i like debian |
| 02:04.27 | Kofif | while i was working on some programing projects :] |
| 02:04.33 | abrotman | with unstable .. you can get some real damn annoying bugs |
| 02:04.33 | boxy | gentoo is a bit overrated as far as all the compiling goes |
| 02:05.01 | cleit0n | hi. how calibreted my joystick in debian? |
| 02:05.06 | threat | boxy, yeah, but you get a finer grain control :) |
| 02:05.11 | asg | abrotman: the Linux Gazette one was still the best |
| 02:05.18 | dvs | cleit0n: jscal |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | asg: i don't remember that one |
| 02:05.33 | Kofif | i still remeber potato :] |
| 02:05.35 | asg | abrotman: you removed the package and it did an rm -rf / |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | asg: oh .. yes .. i do remember that being mentioned |
| 02:06.03 | asg | abrotman: it's filed under 'horrid bugs' in greycat's sid faq |
| 02:06.03 | abrotman | Kofif: yes .. but do you remember that bug? |
| 02:06.09 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:06.18 | boxy | threat, lol |
| 02:06.20 | Kofif | i was like 13 |
| 02:06.26 | Kofif | long time ago. |
| 02:06.51 | boxy | aight so now how should i go about this downgrading to testing im assuming im going to have to uninstall quite a few things |
| 02:06.53 | Kofif | im more into servers atm , less on desktops |
| 02:06.58 | cleit0n | dvs: what is this? Move axis 0 to minimum position and push any button. |
| 02:06.58 | Kofif | kernel 2.4.X |
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| 02:07.09 | asg | Kofif: the question is whether you can legally drink or not |
| 02:07.10 | Kofif | first time im trying to make a 2.6 :] |
| 02:07.13 | tengulre11 | I want to config a small system, anybody can give me some tips or example .config? |
| 02:07.23 | Kofif | yeah i can legaly drink :P |
| 02:07.39 | dvs | cleit0n: I'd move the joystick as far left as I can |
| 02:07.44 | afabian | It's interesting how old hardware works. New stuff works on Windows, because it came with a driver written by the vendor. Later, Windows makes some new versions, said hardware is long past support by the original vendor, but linux drivers tend to keep on living and working. |
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| 02:08.36 | pipeline | afabian: That's not true at all. |
| 02:08.40 | pipeline | afabian: Actually, the reverse is much more true. |
| 02:08.41 | odla | how do a copy something from xterm to a web browser? |
| 02:08.46 | odla | i.e. |
| 02:08.47 | z36ra | fixed it somehow |
| 02:08.59 | Kofif | odla with the middle button :] |
| 02:09.00 | dvs | cleit0n: jstest will print the various values if that's what you want. |
| 02:09.03 | abrotman | odla: highlight it .. then middle click |
| 02:09.06 | pipeline | afabian: Drivers from windows NT 3.5 will still work in modern windows. Have fun porting 90% of the drivers from Linux 2.0 to modern kernels -- most of them have been allowed to rot. |
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| 02:09.09 | odla | i don't have a middle button |
| 02:09.11 | z36ra | I installed wine and a few other things from the etch distro. |
| 02:09.12 | boxy | abrotman, so how should i go about my downgrade? |
| 02:09.16 | Kofif | so get one ! |
| 02:09.17 | pipeline | z36ra: That was very, very, very unwise. |
| 02:09.24 | abrotman | boxy: reinstall :) |
| 02:09.25 | asg | odla: click both left and right together |
| 02:09.26 | odla | no no there must be another way ;) |
| 02:09.33 | boxy | abrotman, i dont think so :p |
| 02:09.35 | afabian | pipeline, must have to do with my statistically insignificant sampling of hardware. |
| 02:09.41 | pipeline | afabian: That would be my guess. |
| 02:09.46 | pipeline | afabian: One issue with windows drivers |
| 02:09.59 | odla | asg: thank you! |
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| 02:10.06 | abrotman | boxy: you remove gnome/gtk .. change your sources .. install gnome .. pray |
| 02:10.09 | z36ra | pipeline, I dont know how unwise it could be to fix a broken cd install on a machine of very little importance |
| 02:10.11 | pipeline | afabian: Is that Windows NT doesn't support VxD hardware drivers. So a huge class of drivers all went obsolete at once in 1999, when Windows 2000 gcame out. |
| 02:10.15 | asg | odla: you're welcome |
| 02:10.20 | cleit0n | dvs: Joystick (DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick ) has 14 axes ((null), (null), (null), Y, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X) |
| 02:10.20 | pipeline | z36ra: You've now hosed your system. Congratulations. |
| 02:10.23 | cleit0n | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) jstest /dev/input/js0 |
| 02:10.27 | odla | i love easy questions with easy answers |
| 02:10.32 | z36ra | I would say it's not THAT unwise |
| 02:10.32 | Kofif | well |
| 02:10.35 | boxy | abrotman, is there a easy way to remove all those packages? |
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| 02:10.44 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 02:10.44 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 02:10.48 | Kofif | any ideas why my 2.6 kernel wont recognize the keyboard ? :\ |
| 02:10.54 | z36ra | pipeline, it was hosed from the begining |
| 02:11.04 | odla | Kofif: it's not plugged in ;) |
| 02:11.18 | Kofif | get real mate |
| 02:11.27 | _fred | Hi! I am having a weird problem and don't find it referenced anywhere. When I start aMSN I cannot type anything in the login box. Other applications works fine though. I do sometimes have this same problem on some chat windows in Kopete. Any idea where I should look for? |
| 02:11.48 | z36ra | pipeline, I click and it works now... thats pretty simple. but I'll let you know if it stops working |
| 02:11.51 | dvs | Kofif: I've never heard of a PS/2 keyboard not working. |
| 02:11.54 | FarmerTom | Okay, I'm reinstalling I have all my stuff backed up, but I need to give my drive a through scrub. Earse totally everything, I have lots of 'bad sectors' too. What command do I issue when? |
| 02:12.01 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.05 | Kofif | 2.6.8 dosnt |
| 02:12.07 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:12.21 | dvs | Kofif: and 2.4.18? |
| 02:12.29 | abrotman | dvs: it would be 2.4.27 |
| 02:12.35 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:12.38 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:12.41 | dvs | abrotman: I like Woody better! ;-) |
| 02:12.43 | abrotman | dvs: he didn't know what he was doing when he installed woody either :) |
| 02:12.46 | Solet | "mkisofs: Input/output error. cannot read from 'the first file in my target path'" <--- what do i do? |
| 02:12.49 | Kofif | didnt try yet. |
| 02:13.03 | Kofif | 2.4.27 |
| 02:13.09 | Kofif | but i want 2.6.8 to work |
| 02:13.14 | Kofif | it dosnt make sence |
| 02:13.21 | dvs | not one bit |
| 02:13.58 | Kofif | apt-cache search kernel | grep smp | grep -v 27 | grep -v k7 | grep -v k6 | grep -v pcmcia | grep -v em64t | grep -v 8-2| grep -v amd | awk {'print $1'} | grep -v 4 |
| 02:14.01 | abrotman | Kofif: what version of module-init-tools do you have ? |
| 02:14.03 | Kofif | that's ok ? |
| 02:14.18 | Kofif | abrotman> it prints out " latest version " |
| 02:14.25 | grahamoz | hey i got a question |
| 02:14.25 | Kofif | i guess the latest... :| |
| 02:14.29 | grahamoz | about the new debian |
| 02:14.35 | grahamoz | the dvd version |
| 02:14.36 | Kofif | grahamoz so ask , dont ask to ask :] |
| 02:14.36 | boxy | !remove gtk |
| 02:14.37 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l module-init-tools |
| 02:14.44 | grahamoz | whats on dvd 2 ? |
| 02:14.46 | abrotman | boxy: dpkg -l | grep gtk |
| 02:14.47 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:14.52 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 02:14.52 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:14.59 | dvs | grahamoz: less popular packages |
| 02:14.59 | Kofif | ii module-init-to 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel modules |
| 02:15.15 | grahamoz | so dvd 1 is only needed ? |
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| 02:15.21 | dvs | grahamoz: yup |
| 02:15.26 | Kofif | even 3.2-pre1-2 < |
| 02:15.33 | grahamoz | awesome |
| 02:15.43 | grahamoz | and is kde 3.5 in the new release ? |
| 02:15.49 | andax | grahamoz: topic |
| 02:15.50 | dvs | !info module-init-tools sarge |
| 02:15.50 | abrotman | the stable release . no |
| 02:15.52 | newbie2debian | whatis xmd5 |
| 02:15.54 | dpkg | module-init-tools: (tools for managing Linux kernel modules), section admin, is required. Version: 3.2-pre1-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 292 kB |
| 02:15.59 | abrotman | !tell newbie2debian about xmd5 |
| 02:16.07 | grahamoz | hmm ok |
| 02:16.09 | odla | kde sucks |
| 02:16.13 | odla | !start a desktop war |
| 02:16.13 | dpkg | KDE owns you and your dog. |
| 02:16.17 | dvs | !lart odla |
| 02:16.17 | odla | no |
| 02:16.17 | Kofif | xfce :] |
| 02:16.19 | grahamoz | what about the new gnome lol |
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| 02:16.30 | abrotman | gnome2.8 in sarge |
| 02:16.40 | odla | the cool window manager |
| 02:16.48 | odla | w/ emelfm |
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| 02:16.57 | odla | the only way to browse your files |
| 02:16.58 | Kofif | abrotman so what dose that tell us ? |
| 02:16.59 | grahamoz | gnome 2.12 |
| 02:17.00 | drp | what do i need to do so that my new 2.6 kernel loads my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:17.11 | drp | it doesn't show up in modconf whenever i boot to my new 2.6 kernel |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | Kofif: just wanted to make sure you actually had the ability to load modules with 2.6 |
| 02:17.16 | grahamoz | is there a list of the new packages |
| 02:17.17 | max | hey, are any of you guys experiencing any issues with recent updates to xorg packages... my computer keeps freezing |
| 02:17.23 | grahamoz | like on a site |
| 02:17.25 | vineetchadha | I am getting uable to locate tools.jar error when i run ant ? any clues |
| 02:17.27 | newbie2debian | thanks |
| 02:17.27 | max | after my last update |
| 02:17.28 | newbie2debian | brb |
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| 02:17.29 | abrotman | grahamoz: for sarge? |
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| 02:17.46 | max | this is on unstable btw |
| 02:17.47 | grahamoz | yes |
| 02:17.50 | grahamoz | the new one |
| 02:17.53 | grahamoz | 3.1 r1 |
| 02:17.57 | Kofif | abrotman: yeah well that's not helpfull as long as i cannot find what bugs my keyboard, maybe a language setting? |
| 02:18.05 | abrotman | grahamoz: there are no new packages .. except security update s.. |
| 02:18.13 | Kofif | i have 2 languages installed |
| 02:18.17 | odla | do i need to apt-secure my keyz now since i'm upgrading to etch? |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | Kofif: you have no other keyboards ? |
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| 02:18.30 | arcane | whats a good 'keep my system date in order' app? |
| 02:18.40 | Kofif | the other one is USB and its ugly and dirty |
| 02:18.48 | andax | arcane: rdate ? :) |
| 02:18.48 | abrotman | arcane: ntp |
| 02:18.49 | Kofif | its a new pc man , i want to enjoy it . |
| 02:18.55 | crn | anyone tried the skype deb? |
| 02:18.55 | boxy | abrotman, i cant get a couple of gnome deps to install, blah blah depends: pkg but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:18.59 | abrotman | Kofif: why not try it .. see if ti works |
| 02:19.04 | Kofif | its USB |
| 02:19.09 | abrotman | and? |
| 02:19.15 | Kofif | hmm |
| 02:19.20 | vineetchadha | hi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help |
| 02:19.22 | Kofif | ok i guess we can give it a shot. |
| 02:19.24 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:19.34 | Kofif | init 6 |
| 02:19.37 | andax | Kofif: enable USB HID support in the kernel if it's not working. |
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| 02:19.45 | Kofif | yeah i know |
| 02:19.48 | Kofif | how to use USB |
| 02:19.59 | abrotman | jsut restart the machien with it plugged in |
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| 02:20.21 | Kofif | yep |
| 02:20.22 | cleit0n | dvs: not configure right |
| 02:20.26 | boxy | abrotman, nvm i got it |
| 02:20.28 | Kofif | that's what going on as we speak. |
| 02:20.32 | abrotman | boxy: yay! |
| 02:20.33 | boxy | i <3 aptitude :) |
| 02:20.38 | boxy | well its installing anyways |
| 02:20.42 | boxy | idk about if it'll work right haha |
| 02:20.48 | Kofif | dosnt work. |
| 02:20.56 | Kofif | same issue. |
| 02:21.10 | Kofif | and if i try to click the numlock |
| 02:21.17 | crn | arcane, wajig |
| 02:21.20 | boxy | abrotman, i might have fixed the firefox prob |
| 02:21.21 | Kofif | it stays on anyway i cannot change it |
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| 02:21.39 | abrotman | boxy: that's always a good side effect |
| 02:21.44 | abrotman | Kofif: which kernel did you boot ? |
| 02:21.51 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
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| 02:22.34 | boxy | mmm gnome is still sucking though |
| 02:22.35 | abrotman | Kofif: if you boot back into 2.2 with your ps2 keyboard plugged in .. i want you to try osmething |
| 02:22.43 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:22.51 | Kofif | rebootin |
| 02:23.03 | Kofif | but it will take some time |
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| 02:23.12 | Kofif | fsck ... |
| 02:23.17 | Kofif | because it was stuck |
| 02:23.24 | Kofif | an i never skip those :] |
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| 02:24.04 | Kofif | im going to get that smoke i talked about an hour ago. |
| 02:24.07 | odla | what's the keyword for me to ask dpkg about why a package isn't in testing |
| 02:24.08 | Kofif | brb |
| 02:24.24 | arcane | i installed ntpd-simple, but my date/time is still wrong ;( |
| 02:24.52 | andax | arcane: tzconfig? |
| 02:25.12 | abrotman | !why is odla not in testing |
| 02:25.12 | dpkg | odla is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=odla |
| 02:25.21 | odla | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:25.22 | dvs | ha! |
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| 02:25.41 | crn | arcane, apt-cache show ntpdate |
| 02:25.43 | arcane | andax, its correct |
| 02:26.32 | Kofif | arcane ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov |
| 02:26.34 | andax | arcane: then run rdate time.nist.gov, and it will be fine |
| 02:26.58 | abrotman | use pool.ntp.org |
| 02:27.03 | abrotman | never ever hit a server directly |
| 02:27.04 | arcane | crn, sorry im new too debian - it told me about the package, nothing jumps out saying it is installed tho |
| 02:27.12 | Kofif | ? |
| 02:27.17 | Kofif | why not directly |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | go read ntp.org |
| 02:27.30 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:27.31 | crn | arcane, apt-get install ntpdate |
| 02:27.33 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:27.35 | arcane | isnt rdate completely seperate too ntp, and rdate would need to be cron'd etc? |
| 02:27.48 | andax | arcane: that's correct. |
| 02:28.05 | arcane | so ntp is the best choice as it will constantly work out and keep the clock in order? |
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| 02:28.37 | Kofif | its mainly used to keep your logs dates correct. |
| 02:28.38 | arcane | how long does it normally take, my system is in tommorrow still |
| 02:28.39 | dvs | arcane: yup. ntpdate only updates on startup |
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| 02:28.51 | molinero | I need reconfigure cups |
| 02:28.56 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:29.08 | Kofif | abrotman ready as root. |
| 02:29.11 | crn | arcane, yep after you run ntpdate to get the time time close enough to be updated. |
| 02:29.13 | arcane | well if the server is up alot, then the date will fly out of order? what can i do about that |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | Kofif: first .. paste your sources in #flood |
| 02:29.52 | arcane | i tried too run ntpdate against pool.ntp.org and got 12 Jan 22:28:08 ntpdate[4618]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 02:29.55 | Kofif | sources off ? |
| 02:29.57 | arcane | :O |
| 02:31.25 | boxy | abrotman, even firefox 1.0.7 doesn't like me |
| 02:31.32 | dvs | !hate boxy |
| 02:31.33 | dpkg | I hate you, boxy! |
| 02:31.35 | arcane | a quick ps tells me that ntp is running in the background, is that doing what i need it too? |
| 02:31.40 | boxy | :P |
| 02:31.45 | boxy | what's that for dvs? |
| 02:32.00 | dvs | boxy: Hey, you said firefox doesn't like you. ;-) |
| 02:32.05 | boxy | haha |
| 02:32.06 | boxy | that too. |
| 02:32.16 | boxy | idk it keeps hanging more than m left nut |
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| 02:32.21 | odla | boxy: use something else? |
| 02:32.24 | abrotman | Kofif: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade .. how many does it want to upgrae ? |
| 02:32.27 | abrotman | upgrade ? |
| 02:32.27 | odla | boxy: try dillo |
| 02:32.41 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:33.00 | brsmuniz | Hi people, do anyone knows if have brazilian's comunity here? |
| 02:33.03 | Kofif | only 1.5Mbit and bad routeing :] |
| 02:33.21 | dvs | why do brazilians like boasting from Brazil? |
| 02:33.33 | Kofif | its stuck on 47% [Connecting to non-us.debian.org (194.109.137.218)] |
| 02:33.43 | boxy | dillo isn't text based is it? |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | Kofif: hit ctrl-c . do it again |
| 02:33.51 | odla | boxy: no |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:33.56 | boxy | kay good |
| 02:33.56 | brsmuniz | ok thanks a lot |
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| 02:34.38 | King_Brad | how would i go about changing a users homeDir after i've created the user? |
| 02:34.43 | boxy | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 02:34.46 | boxy | whats up with this? |
| 02:34.51 | dvs | boxy: /topic |
| 02:34.52 | Kofif | <King_Brad> edit the /etc/passwd |
| 02:34.56 | crn | arcane, ntp should be runing. But the protocol is udp. |
| 02:35.10 | abrotman | boxy: /topic |
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| 02:35.36 | arcane | crn, shouldnt my date/time be correct by now? |
| 02:35.49 | ^ATOMIC^ | how can i tell tar only to extract a certain folder from a tar archive? |
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| 02:36.06 | arcane | crn, as in it should have contacted one of the servers in the pool and changed my system date too match....? |
| 02:36.09 | boxy | whats the pkg for gpg? |
| 02:36.11 | csch | hi guys... |
| 02:36.11 | Kofif | abrotman its all up to date. |
| 02:36.14 | jilocasin | 'ello all |
| 02:36.14 | arcane | altho remember ntpdate didnt match |
| 02:36.22 | boxy | nvm |
| 02:36.25 | boxy | gnupg? |
| 02:36.25 | csch | where the iptables rules are stored in debian |
| 02:36.26 | crn | arcane, when ntpdate runs it will be correct. ntpdate will show the offset. |
| 02:36.26 | abrotman | Kofif: how many did it update ? |
| 02:36.27 | jilocasin | Can someone direct me to the "debian" way of upgrading the kernel |
| 02:36.33 | Kofif | None. |
| 02:36.34 | csch | the default iptables rules ? |
| 02:36.44 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:36.46 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 02:36.50 | Malagmyr | wouldn't it be nice if we all greeted the new arrivals? all at once, every time? |
| 02:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the one not upgraded ? |
| 02:37.09 | Kofif | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
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| 02:37.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.29 | arcane | crn, and the ntp in the background will then keep it correct forevermore ? |
| 02:37.40 | crn | arcane, it will return the offset when it has run correctly |
| 02:37.50 | arcane | so i just wait? |
| 02:37.51 | crn | arcane, in my experience, yes |
| 02:38.18 | boxy | mmm i see dillo doesn't support css |
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| 02:38.33 | nevyn | ok |
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| 02:38.54 | kspath | poop on a stick! |
| 02:39.01 | crn | arcane, when I run it it is pretty fast in returning. But my date is correct. Not a day off. |
| 02:39.12 | nevyn | tinyerp-server doesn't initialise it's database correctly |
| 02:39.18 | arcane | crn, when you run ntpdate ? |
| 02:39.26 | nevyn | how severe is this bug? |
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| 02:39.38 | crn | arcane, only to initialize. |
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| 02:39.45 | dvs | arcane: it only runs at startup |
| 02:39.49 | Kofif | no idea then how to fix this |
| 02:39.59 | arcane | ill do a reboot then |
| 02:40.12 | csch | where the default iptables rules are stored on debian ? |
| 02:40.25 | Kofif | how do i reconfigure the keyboard locale settings ? |
| 02:40.31 | Kofif | its currently on he_IL |
| 02:40.36 | nevyn | so if you initialise the database using the upstream tarball it all works |
| 02:40.41 | asg | csch: read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
| 02:40.41 | Kofif | i think THAT'S the problem. |
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| 02:41.52 | live | Hello |
| 02:42.00 | asg | nevyn: web based reporting of what? |
| 02:42.03 | dvs | live: Good day, eh? |
| 02:42.08 | nevyn | asg: bugs |
| 02:42.17 | live | HI I'm on my xebian xbox |
| 02:42.24 | dvs | !xebian |
| 02:42.24 | dpkg | hmm... xebian is http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian. See #xbox-linux on oftc.net. XEBIAN IS NOT DEBIAN! |
| 02:42.24 | Kofif | how do i change the terminal locale settings ? |
| 02:42.31 | asg | nevyn: erm, it does; unless you mean submitting bugs |
| 02:42.31 | dvs | ;-0 |
| 02:42.31 | Kofif | !dpkg change locale |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
| 02:42.37 | Fujoor | is there anyway to change the text before the loginscreen, for example, to put some ascii art there? |
| 02:42.38 | Kofif | !dpkg locale |
| 02:42.38 | dpkg | locale is probably something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 02:42.40 | nevyn | asg: submitting is what I ment |
| 02:42.44 | live | thank you dpkg |
| 02:42.44 | dpkg | live: sure thing |
| 02:42.48 | Kofif | !dpkg keyboard settings |
| 02:42.59 | asg | nevyn: *nod* |
| 02:43.03 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:43.05 | csch | asg: I added some rules directly on iptables |
| 02:43.09 | csch | using iptables command |
| 02:43.30 | csch | now I want to save then to maintain the same after reboot |
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| 02:43.33 | nevyn | reportbug is great but requiring working mail is a hassle in these false positive spam prevention gone nuts days |
| 02:43.54 | csch | ./etc/init.d/iptables save active is the correct way ? |
| 02:43.58 | Guerin | nevyn: give over. It's not that bad. |
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| 02:44.18 | nevyn | Guerin: it is if you're not using smarthost |
| 02:44.21 | crn | csch, man iptables-save |
| 02:44.23 | asg | csch: use iptables-save > foo ; iptables-restore < foo (the preferred way is via 'up' stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces, though the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/iptables indicate other options.) |
| 02:44.31 | nevyn | even then smarthost is a hack. |
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| 02:44.44 | Kofif | i forgot the command that change it :\ |
| 02:44.45 | Hamled | how woudl I setup a bind zone record so that for example, subdom.mydomain.tld has an A record, and then mydomain.tld has a CNAME record that points to that A record? |
| 02:44.53 | nevyn | the number of people using DUL's keeps going up and up. |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the package that won't upgrade? |
| 02:45.08 | nevyn | the collateral damage keeps expanding |
| 02:45.08 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.09 | kwikky23 | hi #debian...i just installed via a netinstall but it appears that libusb is not present....how do I install libusb support? |
| 02:45.33 | odla | kwikky23: apt-cache search libusb |
| 02:45.37 | csch | asg: but when I start debian some rules are loaded right ? |
| 02:45.46 | csch | where this rules are stored ? |
| 02:45.46 | abrotman | Kofif: are there any settings in the bios related ot the keyboard? |
| 02:45.53 | Guerin | nevyn: you're saying you don't have working mail ANYWHERE? |
| 02:45.54 | csch | there is a default firewall in debian ? |
| 02:45.57 | Kofif | not realy. |
| 02:46.10 | Azar | kwikky23: you installed with the 2.4.x. kernel? |
| 02:46.10 | Kofif | just a plain brand new ps keyboard. |
| 02:46.12 | nevyn | Guerin: no. |
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| 02:46.24 | kwikky23 | Azar: yes |
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| 02:46.30 | nevyn | Guerin: but I don't on my workstation where I often find these bugs |
| 02:46.30 | asg | csch: no, there isn't. There was in Debian 3.0 but that has been changed in 3.1. |
| 02:46.39 | nevyn | heh |
| 02:46.49 | Azar | kwikky23: the 2.6.8 kernel will give you the support you need |
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| 02:47.11 | Azar | kwikky23: either reinstall with the 2.6 kernel or just install the 2.6.8 for your architecture |
| 02:47.28 | kwikky23 | Azar: i used the netinstall from last night and it seems to have installed 2.4...why did it do that? |
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| 02:47.56 | dvs | kwikky23: 2.4 is the default with no options |
| 02:47.56 | Azar | kwikky23: thats the default, you have to ask for kernel 2.6 in order to get it |
| 02:48.18 | nevyn | csch: no. |
| 02:48.20 | neuterspAWAY | How can I get my version of apt-get to include Firefox 1.5 through repository? |
| 02:48.22 | Kofif | abrotman my keyboard is configured as he_IL , how can i change it back to us ? |
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| 02:48.31 | Azar | how is Sarge installer requested for the 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:48.35 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 02:48.35 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 02:48.38 | Azar | I never used Sarge installer? |
| 02:48.40 | abrotman | Azar: linux26 |
| 02:48.45 | crn | csch, google for a readme the use asg's advice about the up stanzas. You can load the firewall right after ppp comes up. |
| 02:49.02 | Azar | kwikky23: there, abrotman told you |
| 02:49.33 | kwikky23 | (sigh) debian is proving to be challenging! |
| 02:49.43 | Kofif | ok rebooting. |
| 02:49.45 | Kofif | lets see |
| 02:49.47 | kwikky23 | ok...so how do go to 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:50.04 | Azar | kwikky23: what CPU you have? |
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| 02:50.09 | dvs | kwikky23: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 02:50.12 | kwikky23 | PIII 650 |
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| 02:50.49 | Azar | kwikky23: at command line, as root type apt-cache search kernel-image look at the list and write down the 2.6.8 kernel appropriate for your CPU |
| 02:51.00 | nichos | hi all, my apt is stuck, keeps telling me to apt-get -f install, which fails. Ive tried dpkg --force-all --purge and it keeps saying "ignoring request to remove X which isnt installed" |
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| 02:51.17 | Azar | kwikky23: then type aptitude install kernel-image.x.x.x.x.x.x x being the specifics you pick |
| 02:51.20 | crn | no one here has tried the skype deb? |
| 02:51.23 | Guerin | nevyn: put the output of apt-get -f install; on paster |
| 02:51.26 | Guerin | crn: no. |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | crn: skype isn't in debina |
| 02:51.32 | Azar | kwikky23: the kernel you want is 2.6.8 |
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| 02:51.51 | nichos | Guerin was that for? |
| 02:51.52 | crn | Guerin, abrotman thanks |
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| 02:52.11 | nevyn | Guerin: ? |
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| 02:52.26 | nevyn | I can't find a severity arcane |
| 02:52.28 | Kofif | hey |
| 02:52.32 | Kofif | abrotman |
| 02:52.33 | Guerin | nevyn: sorry |
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| 02:52.36 | Kofif | awk:~# uname -a |
| 02:52.36 | Kofif | Linux awk 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 02:52.38 | Kofif | :D |
| 02:52.39 | Guerin | nichos: that was for you |
| 02:52.42 | odla | crn: skype is in debian-unofficial |
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| 02:52.45 | nichos | Guerin hehe, k, one sec:) |
| 02:53.13 | nevyn | so if a package doesn't initialised itself correctly that's important from my reading |
| 02:53.25 | nevyn | affects the usability of the package for most users |
| 02:53.28 | nichos | Guerin http://channels.debian.net/paste/1539 |
| 02:53.47 | nevyn | bleh grave |
| 02:54.00 | Guerin | nichos: wtf is 'initialised' in this case? |
| 02:54.29 | nichos | Guerin initialised? what do you mean? |
| 02:54.35 | drp | ok so I just installed a new kernel (2.6 k7) and I'm having some trouble with loading my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:54.45 | drp | whenever I try to run startx as myself i get these errors |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | Kofif: it works ? |
| 02:54.50 | Guerin | nichos: fuck, my tabcomplete is random today |
| 02:54.53 | drp | http://rafb.net/paste/results/qBzGoq39.html |
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| 02:55.12 | Kofif | apt-get install `apt-cache search xfce | awk {'print $1'} :DDD |
| 02:55.16 | Kofif | abrotman Yes |
| 02:55.24 | abrotman | Kofif: just the keymap? |
| 02:55.27 | Guerin | nichos: dpkg -P knetworkconf |
| 02:55.30 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:55.35 | abrotman | that sucks |
| 02:55.37 | Kofif | i had it set as he_IL |
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| 02:55.49 | Kofif | and the new kernel didnt know how to work with that language. |
| 02:55.49 | nichos | Guerin i get this: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove knetworkconf which isn't installed. |
| 02:56.09 | Kofif | downloaing xfce4 at 200kb/sec |
| 02:56.10 | Kofif | :] |
| 02:56.36 | Kofif | will have a sweet desktop in no time! ( if i still remeber the xfree86config issues lol ) |
| 02:56.40 | Guerin | nichos: ok, so that package is being installed to correct dependencies. |
| 02:56.41 | deadcat | i got windows to print through my CUPS printer via IPP. but having problem via linux to linux (= |
| 02:56.48 | drp | should i paste my XFSConf too? |
| 02:56.50 | Kofif | thank you for your time man , |
| 02:56.57 | Kofif | if you need anything just ask :] |
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| 02:57.17 | Guerin | nichos: file conflicts like that (two packages containing the same file) should never happen in official debian sources. |
| 02:57.17 | deadcat | Kofif: what you got? |
| 02:57.19 | _Sam-- | there is no way to do bootsplash without making a new kernel for sarge? |
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| 02:57.30 | deadcat | _Sam--: nope. |
| 02:57.37 | deadcat | _Sam--: try splashy |
| 02:57.43 | _Sam-- | thanks will have a look! |
| 02:57.53 | Kofif | deadcat ? what man ? |
| 02:57.59 | _Sam-- | that gets run through initrd? |
| 02:58.23 | nichos | Guerin so removing a source, apt get updating should work? |
| 02:58.24 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya |
| 02:58.35 | deadcat | Kofif: 18:56 < Kofif> if you need anything just ask :] |
| 02:58.41 | Kofif | lol |
| 02:58.42 | _Sam-- | sweet gonna give it shot THANKS. |
| 02:58.59 | Kofif | i manage a small data center :P |
| 02:59.09 | Guerin | nichos: no, because you already have some broken shit installed. You can either uninstall whatever is bringing in this broken package, or do this: dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/knetworkconf_whatever.deb |
| 02:59.12 | Kofif | wanna rent a box ?:P |
| 02:59.25 | kwikky23 | ok..i'm on 2.6.8 kernel now...but not getting expected results....i'm trying to install OWFS and it says I should check libusb support with this command: find /usr/lib -name "libusb.*" |
| 02:59.42 | kwikky23 | but that command yields no results |
| 02:59.42 | jcurry | deadcat, what is this splashy you speak of? can i find it in debian? |
| 02:59.55 | nichos | Guerin lifesaver:) |
| 02:59.56 | Guerin | !owfs |
| 03:00.25 | deadcat | jcurry: deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 03:00.27 | Guerin | kwikky23: wtf is owfs? |
| 03:00.38 | jcurry | deadcat, thanks! |
| 03:00.46 | kwikky23 | Guerin: One Wire File System see it at owfs.sourceforge.net |
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| 03:01.13 | _Sam-- | weird, the splash sourceforge page says its listed in the debian packages now...apt-search shows nothing |
| 03:01.21 | _Sam-- | er splashy sourceforge page |
| 03:01.24 | nichos | Guerin thanks a lot |
| 03:01.28 | kwikky23 | Guerin: it's for temperature sensing and control |
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| 03:01.49 | _Sam-- | apt-cache search too :) |
| 03:01.54 | deadcat | _Sam--: in experimental maybe. |
| 03:02.00 | _Sam-- | i get a million sources |
| 03:02.16 | Guerin | kwikky23: what gives you that instruction? |
| 03:02.28 | Guerin | kwikky23: the find instruction, i mean |
| 03:02.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: http://owfs.sourceforge.net/install.html |
| 03:02.56 | kwikky23 | Guerin: under section 2 check prerequisites |
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| 03:03.24 | Guerin | kwikky23: apt-cache show libusb; you'll probably ened -dev packages |
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| 03:03.43 | pawdro | how can i remove ONLY totem? im not sure if i should apt-get remove totem, because it wants also remove gnome gnome-desktop-enviroment and totem (but only 77.8 kb will be removed from disc) |
| 03:04.19 | Guerin | pawdro: it just removes the metapackage; no big deal. |
| 03:04.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: says" Unable to locate package libusb" "No packages found"...suggestions for installing/getting? |
| 03:04.49 | pawdro | Guerin: so accept removing? |
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| 03:06.28 | _Sam-- | deadcat THANKS>..i think this is going to work out great. |
| 03:06.39 | _Sam-- | do i need to mkinitrd for the splashy? |
| 03:06.40 | Guerin | pawdro: sure |
| 03:06.57 | deadcat | _Sam--: no. you dont have to do anything. |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | awk:~# xdebconfigurator |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/ddcprobe NOT found! |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/hwinfo NOT found! |
| 03:07.15 | Kofif | how can i fix this ? :\ |
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| 03:07.22 | deadcat | Kofif: install those 2 |
| 03:07.25 | _Sam-- | it will automagically do its thing next time i reboot without even doing anything other than installing it? |
| 03:07.35 | Kofif | what's the packages names i cannot seem to fin |
| 03:07.38 | boxy | which kernel in testing should i install 2.6.8 or 2.6.12? |
| 03:07.56 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. make sure your boot loader has vga that supports 1024x768 or so. thats it |
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| 03:08.03 | Kofif | oo found hwinfo :] |
| 03:08.07 | deadcat | Kofif: apt-cache search |
| 03:08.12 | _Sam-- | awesome...thanks so much, again....back in 2! |
| 03:08.21 | deadcat | boxy: latest might be always better |
| 03:08.30 | Kofif | found em |
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| 03:08.44 | boxy | heh well i have 2.6.15-1-686 but im going from unstable to testing also |
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| 03:08.52 | eder_20 | hi |
| 03:08.53 | boxy | cause unstable is causing problems. lol |
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| 03:08.57 | kwikky23 | sorry for being such a N00b, but I'm looking at http://libusb.sourceforge.net/ and it's not clear to me how Install that package in debian...can someone steer me in the right direction? |
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| 03:10.07 | jcurry | kwikky23, 'apt-get install libusb-0.1-4' as root? |
| 03:10.58 | _Sam-- | worked...but i thought you said it ran from initrd |
| 03:11.06 | _Sam-- | it doesnt load up until root is mounted and init is run |
| 03:11.20 | deadcat | oh. |
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| 03:11.25 | _Sam-- | but better than nothing! |
| 03:11.29 | deadcat | i dont use it no more. |
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| 03:11.43 | deadcat | sucked on ppc. doesnt work actually. they too lazy to build |
| 03:11.44 | _Sam-- | it serves its purpose fine for what im trying to do |
| 03:11.55 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. |
| 03:12.08 | kwikky23 | jcurry: is that going to be the same package as on libusb.sourceforge.net |
| 03:12.10 | odla | crap i am trying to upgrade to testing from sarge and udev won't install |
| 03:12.11 | _Sam-- | was wondering how it was going to run from initrd if im not making a new initrd |
| 03:13.01 | Guerin | odla: need new kernel |
| 03:13.08 | odla | Guerin: for it to install? |
| 03:13.14 | Guerin | odla: remove udev, upgrade, install new kernel, install udev |
| 03:13.21 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:13.26 | Guerin | braindead, but true |
| 03:13.40 | odla | Guerin: it won't let me remove udev |
| 03:14.08 | Kofif | Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. |
| 03:14.09 | Guerin | odla: tell it to improve its attitude |
| 03:14.11 | Kofif | :\ |
| 03:14.18 | jcurry | kwikky23, i have no clue...but it should be reasonably similar, i should think... |
| 03:14.21 | odla | Guerin: how ;)? |
| 03:14.34 | Guerin | odla: why is it being truculent? |
| 03:14.47 | odla | Guerin: it wants me to apt-get -f install |
| 03:14.57 | odla | Guerin: when i do that it says no it won't do it |
| 03:14.59 | asg | Guerin: don't scare them with the big words |
| 03:15.01 | odla | Guerin: hold on i'll paste it |
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| 03:16.20 | odla | Guerin: hang on...i tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade and things look ok for the moment...back to listen to abrotman mp3s |
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| 03:17.05 | Guerin | bah ... the 4.2.2.* dns servers are flaking out on me |
| 03:17.08 | Guerin | who's got some others? |
| 03:17.12 | Kofif | i run xdebconfigurator and i get : Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. <<--- how can i fix this issue ? |
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| 03:17.53 | z36ra | how do you get snd-virmidi to load automatically? |
| 03:18.35 | z36ra | sarge |
| 03:18.57 | Guerin | z36ra: echo snd-virmidi >> /etc/modules |
| 03:19.05 | odla | udev error http://pastebin.com/501919 |
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| 03:19.16 | shadow98 | where does samba store its wins info |
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| 03:19.54 | Guerin | odla: for a start, sort your locale issues out |
| 03:20.15 | odla | Guerin: how? |
| 03:20.36 | Guerin | odla: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:20.43 | Guerin | odla: aptitude purge udev |
| 03:21.11 | odla | dpkg-reconfigure locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 03:23.14 | odla | oh boy |
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| 03:23.31 | Guerin | odla: ok, so just ignore it and purge udev |
| 03:23.42 | abrotman | the answer to life |
| 03:23.49 | Kofif | what should i use " gdm " or " xdm " to manage my xfce ? |
| 03:23.54 | odla | Guerin: i am running aptitude purge udev and the strangest shit is happening |
| 03:23.59 | shadow98 | if i change /etc/hosts file do i need to flush anything for changes to take effect |
| 03:24.15 | elessar7x | do you know how to enable /dev/sda ? |
| 03:24.17 | odla | Guerin: the terminal is scrolling out of control with a million parser errors |
| 03:24.32 | elessar7x | it appears I have lost both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 03:24.40 | Guerin | odla: welcome to why udev is the bane of all life |
| 03:24.43 | elessar7x | after the compilation of the kernel |
| 03:24.51 | odla | Guerin: udev sucks i want hotplug back |
| 03:24.54 | centrx | Kofif, you can use either |
| 03:24.58 | abrotman | why did you compile your own kernel elessar7x ? |
| 03:25.03 | Kofif | whats recommended |
| 03:25.12 | odla | Guerin: will it ever stop? |
| 03:25.19 | abrotman | Kofif: whichever you prefer . there is no recommended |
| 03:25.33 | elessar7x | for drivers ... |
| 03:25.36 | centrx | Kofif, gdm is prettier and probably more featureful, but for all but the most convoluted and complex purposes they are probably identical for your purposes |
| 03:25.38 | abrotman | that's vague |
| 03:25.51 | Guerin | odla: Please insert coins to play 'Crystal Ball' |
| 03:25.52 | centrx | Kofif, i should replace probably with possibly more developed currently |
| 03:25.59 | odla | what's all this shit about oasis-open.org |
| 03:26.02 | centrx | Kofif, that is under more development |
| 03:26.04 | shadow98 | anybody know what i have to do it get /etc/hosts file to update |
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| 03:26.25 | abrotman | shadow98: why would you need to update it ? |
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| 03:27.03 | shadow98 | i had wrong ip in there for one of my hosts that i moved to the dmz |
| 03:27.10 | abrotman | so change it |
| 03:27.18 | shadow98 | im using samba as wins server |
| 03:27.38 | odla | Guerin: holy fuck...it worked...i think |
| 03:27.40 | shadow98 | so when i ping debian box that was on the lan it is pointing to old ip |
| 03:27.48 | shadow98 | not the new ip in the dmz |
| 03:27.53 | newjunk | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:28.12 | abrotman | shadow98: so change the IP in your hosts file .. or restart wins ? |
| 03:28.15 | shadow98 | it didn't start even trying to resolve address until i put the wins server in |
| 03:28.29 | shadow98 | so its has something to do with samba or something on the debian box |
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| 03:29.13 | odla | Guerin: so should i upgrade my kernel then reinstall udev? |
| 03:30.09 | shadow98 | ok if i put the samba server in wins and when i ping it it points to old ip...where is this info stored in samba/debian |
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| 03:30.24 | shadow98 | i just restarted samba server that didn't work |
| 03:30.26 | kwikky23 | Guerin and everyone...thank you for your assistance...nothing is going smoothly with my debian install so I think I'm going back to Fedora Core4...but I do appreciate your help |
| 03:31.13 | khermans_ | Is there a way to allow my non-root user to have more paths for libs? I am not able to edit /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 03:31.25 | Flimzy | shadow98: look in /etc/resolv.conf... and check DNS |
| 03:31.48 | Flimzy | shadow98: And BTW, in every experience I've run into, DNS makes more sense than WINS |
| 03:31.54 | raf256 | khermans_: isnt there like export LD_PRELOADF |
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| 03:32.10 | Guerin | odla: yes |
| 03:32.13 | afabian | khermans_, LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, I think. But I don't know, just coming up with a 'jumping off point' for a search. |
| 03:32.20 | odla | Guerin: thanks for the help |
| 03:32.34 | shadow98 | not in etc/resolve |
| 03:32.56 | odla | Guerin: one more question...why did aptitude purge udev work and apt-get remove --purge udev not? |
| 03:32.58 | raf256 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/06/msg00327.html |
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| 03:34.06 | xam | shadow98: your samba server stores it in /var/lib/samba/wins.dat |
| 03:34.22 | z36ra | ok the module loads but now sound doesnt work in kde... ho hum |
| 03:34.52 | z36ra | no jack, oss alsa... nada brutha |
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| 03:35.19 | z36ra | gotta love this free debian stuf. |
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| 03:35.39 | khermans_ | afabian, that worked, thanks dude :-) |
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| 03:36.11 | z36ra | and stable |
| 03:36.25 | Guerin | odla: aptitude is smarter than apt-get when it comes to traversing dependencies |
| 03:36.27 | abrotman | stable? ... my debian crashes every 5 minutes |
| 03:36.34 | afabian | khermans_, it's what I have to show for my mis-spent youth. ;) |
| 03:36.38 | z36ra | i hear ya |
| 03:36.48 | khermans_ | afabian, how old now? |
| 03:36.50 | khermans_ | ;-/ |
| 03:36.52 | abrotman | it's probably because i keep just jamming cards in the PCI slots |
| 03:36.52 | odla | Guerin: so should i just use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 03:36.57 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:37.03 | odla | Guerin: ok..thanks |
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| 03:37.09 | z36ra | hell anything is better than windows |
| 03:37.10 | afabian | khermans_, I'm exaggerating more than a little. I'm 25, though. |
| 03:37.10 | shadow98 | there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.15 | khermans_ | lol |
| 03:37.19 | shadow98 | xam: there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.20 | abrotman | shadow98: did you restart samba ? |
| 03:37.23 | Kerr | is Vores l debian? .. and does anyone know where i can get some? |
| 03:37.24 | shadow98 | yes |
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| 03:37.35 | z36ra | ide be crashing every 4 minutes |
| 03:37.48 | abrotman | shadow98: and the other one .. wind .. or winbind .. whatever it's called |
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| 03:38.00 | shadow98 | yes |
| 03:38.30 | shadow98 | amd i flushed dns on my windows machine |
| 03:38.56 | abrotman | flushed dns ? |
| 03:39.13 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. |
| 03:39.15 | Waggie | Any ideas? |
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| 03:39.25 | Flimzy | The next thing to do, then, is to flush your windows machine :P |
| 03:39.45 | SperMite | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:39.46 | Waggie | Gotta agree with ya there, Flimzy. :) |
| 03:40.02 | Waggie | SperMite: Which directory are you in? |
| 03:40.05 | z36ra | sound system went to hell after adding vir-midi to /etc/modules |
| 03:40.14 | z36ra | any suggestions |
| 03:40.16 | z36ra | ? |
| 03:40.20 | shadow98 | abortman: also when i do nbtstat -c it shows the correct address for debian |
| 03:40.23 | shadow98 | box |
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| 03:40.35 | shadow98 | but when i try to ping it doesn't resolve correct address |
| 03:40.45 | SperMite | Waggie Devin:/usr/src# make menuconfig |
| 03:40.58 | shadow98 | well it works |
| 03:40.59 | z36ra | oops snd-virmidi |
| 03:41.04 | Waggie | SperMite: Try to chdir to /usr/src/linux/ |
| 03:41.06 | shadow98 | if i go to share by name it works |
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| 03:41.08 | Aid` | Why cant I see any pictures when im playing movies/videos? I can hear the audio but cant see the picture :(. Any ideas? |
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| 03:41.49 | raf256 | Aid`: is monitor turned on? are you blind? |
| 03:42.02 | Aid` | it is |
| 03:42.03 | shadow98 | now its pinging |
| 03:42.06 | raf256 | Aid`: also, try other output devices |
| 03:42.06 | Aid` | the screen is just green |
| 03:42.07 | shadow98 | just took it a minute |
| 03:42.09 | Flimzy | Aid`: What program are you using? Do you get an error? Do you have the proper codec(s) installed? |
| 03:42.17 | raf256 | Aid`: -vo x11 |
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| 03:42.31 | Aid` | raf256, what? |
| 03:42.34 | oozle | hi |
| 03:42.40 | oozle | I've a question... |
| 03:42.41 | raf256 | Aid`: add -vo x11 option to command line of mplayer |
| 03:42.46 | oozle | I've a question. Can someone enlighten me as to what was the nature of the lawsuit against people who used unix to construct operating systems like linux... |
| 03:42.48 | Aid` | im using wine |
| 03:42.52 | Aid` | erm xine |
| 03:42.54 | Aid` | :X |
| 03:43.07 | raf256 | Aid`: try mplayer |
| 03:43.16 | Aid` | when itry to add it i get wierd errors |
| 03:43.22 | Waggie | mplayer is superior to xine. |
| 03:43.28 | raf256 | try kaffeine |
| 03:43.32 | abrotman | oozle: that's a bit vague |
| 03:43.34 | Waggie | oozle: Check out groklaw.com |
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| 03:43.44 | oozle | groklaw.com? |
| 03:43.46 | Aid` | Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | is only available from another source |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate |
| 03:43.47 | abrotman | he could mean the BSD lawsuit |
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| 03:43.51 | Edgardoweb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.53 | Edgardoweb | * - /___\/ _ ___ |
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| 03:43.56 | Aid` | sorry |
| 03:43.57 | Edgardoweb | * - |( C '\ \ |-| |._ |
| 03:43.59 | Edgardoweb | * - ___ )_ _/ - | | | | |
| 03:44.00 | abrotman | Edgardoweb: STOP |
| 03:44.01 | raf256 | oozle: linux is used only by hackers and terrorists. dindt you read the M$ banner? |
| 03:44.01 | Edgardoweb | * - [___] / `\____ | | |_,' |
| 03:44.03 | Edgardoweb | * - | ^| / \_____/) |-|___| |
| 03:44.05 | Edgardoweb | * - | | / / _:::_))_(___ |
| 03:44.06 | Aid` | but thats what it says |
| 03:44.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 03:44.07 | Edgardoweb | * - | |/`-._/_ |___________| |
| 03:44.09 | Edgardoweb | * - '-;_|\_____ `\ ||"""""""""|| |
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| 03:44.10 | Waggie | Edgardoweb: Lamer. |
| 03:44.11 | raf256 | Edgardoweb: are you mentally retarded? |
| 03:44.31 | afabian | Heh. What is that, some urbane freenode kick? |
| 03:44.37 | oozle | abrotman yes I know, I'm sorry, I don't accurately recall what kind of lawsuit it was, but at the time it threatened to end efforts to use linux as a popular op system |
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| 03:44.50 | abrotman | oozle: there's the SCO lawsuit .. and the old BSD lawsuit |
| 03:44.52 | Aid` | im newer to debian what does it usually mean if a packing is not avaliable, or missing, or obsolete, or from another source |
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| 03:45.02 | Aid` | am i missing something in sources.list possibly? |
| 03:45.09 | raf256 | !mplayer |
| 03:45.09 | dpkg | from memory, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 03:45.20 | Waggie | Aid: You should probably add the merillat apt repository to your sources.list |
| 03:45.31 | Aid` | Waggie, where is that at |
| 03:45.34 | raf256 | !tell Aid` about marillat |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | !tell Aid` about |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:45.52 | raf256 | ;) |
| 03:45.59 | mrpen | hi, is there a way to change the resolution in the console windows, not in X? |
| 03:46.06 | raf256 | !tell me about sex baby, lets talk about you and me |
| 03:46.29 | Guerin | raf256: grow up. |
| 03:46.31 | Waggie | Aid: Send a privmsg to dpkg with the text 'mplayer faq' |
| 03:46.36 | raf256 | Guerin: noooooo |
| 03:46.37 | abrotman | and get the lyrics right |
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| 03:47.14 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 03:47.16 | Guerin | abrotman: go easy on him. That song was written about two decades before he even knew what sex was. |
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| 03:47.31 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 03:47.31 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 5 or 6 rabid kittens. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 03:47.40 | abrotman | Guerin: that song is .. like 15 years old .. i think |
| 03:47.47 | Guerin | abrotman: yes. |
| 03:47.50 | Aid` | whereis sources.list again? :$ |
| 03:47.57 | abrotman | /etc/apt/ |
| 03:48.10 | raf256 | Aid`: do backup, after changes do apt-get update as root |
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| 03:48.30 | psilikon | is the sarge netinst iso bootable? |
| 03:48.32 | sandman | How useful is COBOL these days? |
| 03:48.34 | Zenethian- | How do you tell what speed an ethernet card is running at? |
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| 03:48.42 | EdLin | psilikon: of course |
| 03:48.46 | Waggie | sandman: About as useful as a brick. |
| 03:48.59 | Waggie | Nevermind, not that useful, even. |
| 03:48.59 | sandman | Waggie: C programs are faster these days, yes? |
| 03:49.04 | psilikon | hmmm it is not booting for me but all the other bootable isos i burnt are working fine |
| 03:49.06 | Zenethian- | COBOL programmers make $120+ an hour (and thats in the midwest) but it's a dying profession |
| 03:49.08 | Waggie | Generally, yes. |
| 03:49.10 | psilikon | maybe a bad iso |
| 03:49.11 | Kofif | how can i make x detect my mouse correctly ? |
| 03:49.15 | Kofif | i get an error |
| 03:49.47 | Waggie | Kofif: The error would help.. |
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| 03:50.03 | sandman | Well, it seems to me that C is more functional, less inherently buggy, faster, and more portable. |
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| 03:50.11 | sandman | In other words, C is Just Plain Better. |
| 03:50.13 | raf256 | yet C++ is better |
| 03:50.15 | Waggie | Zenethian: I also don't KNOW any COBOL programmers outside of the midwest. |
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| 03:50.19 | psilikon | is there something that would make the ia64 version not bootable? |
| 03:50.26 | Aid` | isnt mplayer an official package of debian |
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| 03:50.28 | Guerin | !start a language war |
| 03:50.28 | dpkg | Pascal is faster than Lua |
| 03:50.29 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 <<-- ? |
| 03:50.31 | raf256 | psilikon: a hammer? |
| 03:50.36 | sandman | Well, no I made the comparison between COBOL and C because they are both structured languages. |
| 03:50.38 | Guerin | Aid`: no. |
| 03:50.41 | Waggie | Aid: No, because of patent issues. |
| 03:50.46 | Aid` | why doesn't apt-get work by default? for mplayer |
| 03:50.47 | xam | Zenethian-: if you networkcard driver supports it, install and run 'mii-tool' as root, or otherwise simply look up the bootlog, it might be mentioned there |
| 03:50.53 | Guerin | not explicitly because of patent issues |
| 03:50.59 | Waggie | Well, true.. My bad. |
| 03:51.13 | Guerin | Aid`: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 03:51.53 | Zenethian | xam, thanks. |
| 03:52.01 | Aid` | k |
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| 03:52.12 | psilikon | anyone know of some sarge iso mirrors? |
| 03:52.14 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
| 03:52.21 | Kofif | how can i detect my mouse ? mdetect wont find it .. |
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| 03:52.31 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 |
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| 03:53.02 | cleit0n | hi i install one USB joystick and i calibreted with jscalibrator but it dont work right, only run right and back... |
| 03:53.22 | Aid` | how do i setup marilatt |
| 03:53.29 | Aid` | marillat |
| 03:53.35 | xam | psilikon: mhh, last time I installed it on a ia64 was about 2 months ago, using the netinstall iso for testing. It worked fine (on a zx2000) |
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| 03:53.43 | Waggie | Kofif, USB mouse? |
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| 03:53.52 | Kofif | PS 2 |
| 03:54.05 | Kofif | hang on i think i found its config |
| 03:54.23 | Waggie | Aid: The instructions that dpkg gave you should tell you how. |
| 03:54.23 | Aid` | How do i setup the deb packages in sources.list |
| 03:54.28 | odla | slowly but surely i'll have my system updated |
| 03:54.36 | jilocasin | hi all |
| 03:54.49 | raf256 | Aid`: talk less, read more |
| 03:54.51 | Waggie | The config for the mouse in X11 is handled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 03:55.25 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can get gnome's resolution to be 1280x1024 at 75 (that's how it comes in under KDS and XFCE), but gnome insists on 60? |
| 03:55.33 | psilikon | xam: I must of just got a bad cd or something |
| 03:55.46 | Kofif | no |
| 03:55.49 | Kofif | im not useing xorg |
| 03:55.51 | raf256 | jilocasin: perhaps change xorg.cong / FXree86 settings |
| 03:56.07 | Waggie | Kofif: Do an 'ls -l /dev/mouse' |
| 03:56.11 | raf256 | jilocasin: start rotate and rand tool |
| 03:56.18 | cleit0n | anyone have .joystick to me |
| 03:56.20 | raf256 | jilocasin: krandrtray |
| 03:56.38 | sandman | The record i/o funcionality inherent in COBOL is kinda redundant, isn't it? Considering that most OS's have readahead and burst I/O, etc |
| 03:56.51 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
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| 03:57.06 | abrotman | sandbot: this is the wrong channel for programming language discussion |
| 03:57.11 | abrotman | especially about cobol :) |
| 03:57.22 | sandman | Where should I go? |
| 03:57.25 | isorox | #museum |
| 03:57.34 | xam | psilikon: maybe. But it could be taht the installer CDs are broken on ia64. Happens sometimes |
| 03:57.35 | Waggie | #depression on EfNet. :) |
| 03:57.51 | Kofif | Waggie no file.. |
| 03:57.54 | bjron | is there a way, in general, to determine which compile options were used to build the binaries in a package? |
| 03:57.59 | Kofif | ls: /dev/mouse: No such file or directory |
| 03:58.07 | isorox | Kofif, your mouse might be under /dev/psaux |
| 03:58.15 | Kofif | xdebconfigutaror tells me the mouse is /dev/input/mice |
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| 03:58.18 | afabian | apt-cache search cobol tells me that COBOL has about as much to do with Debian as leprechauns. |
| 03:58.20 | Waggie | isorox: It's configured for that. |
| 03:58.22 | Kofif | and protocol is ImPS/2 |
| 03:58.24 | jilocasin | raf256: xorg.conf setting are SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" |
| 03:58.27 | Kofif | but that osnt help. |
| 03:58.35 | Waggie | kofif: Does /dev/input/mice exist? |
| 03:58.46 | Kofif | i dont think so |
| 03:58.49 | jilocasin | raf256: what's rotate and rand tool, krandrtray? |
| 03:58.53 | munkys_com | hi what is a good PCI WLAN card for a slower Pentium 2 running Debian? |
| 03:58.56 | Waggie | 'ls -l /dev/input/mice' |
| 03:59.01 | raf256 | jilocasin: its a tool to change X resolution |
| 03:59.01 | Kofif | /dev/input/mice |
| 03:59.03 | Kofif | yes |
| 03:59.05 | Kofif | its there . |
| 03:59.09 | Waggie | Ok.. |
| 03:59.12 | psilikon | xam: if I ran the 32bit version would I loose any performance? I have a p4 dual core w/ the em64t |
| 03:59.20 | Waggie | Do 'ls -l /etc/X11/XF86Config' |
| 03:59.26 | Kofif | its there. |
| 03:59.33 | raf256 | jilocasin: although Im afriad it need KDE to work... perhaps try "xset" program |
| 03:59.37 | munkys_com | anyone have any experience with WLAN cards? |
| 03:59.49 | raf256 | !anyone |
| 03:59.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:59.55 | abrotman | #wireless |
| 04:00.16 | Waggie | Use your favorite text editor of choice and edit /etc/X11/XF86Config, then search for '/dev/mouse' and replace it with '/dev/input/mice' |
| 04:00.26 | hornhead | where can I get a list of all the debian mirrors? |
| 04:00.27 | Kofif | did so already. |
| 04:00.28 | abrotman | you shouldn't do that |
| 04:00.33 | Waggie | !ne1 |
| 04:00.33 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 04:00.36 | hornhead | nm |
| 04:00.37 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 04:00.37 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 04:00.47 | Waggie | abrotman: I gave bad advice? |
| 04:00.50 | Kofif | join flood look what i get |
| 04:00.55 | xam | psilikon: yes, it would be unbearably slow. Despite the fact that you can't install a 32bit (x86) debian on ia64. You can run x86 binaries however (if you install the ia32libs package) |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | Waggie: if you edit that file by hand .. dpkg-reconfigure won't work on sarge's xfree packages |
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| 04:01.17 | Waggie | Ah.. My bad. |
| 04:01.25 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:01.37 | Kofif | so i need to fix it |
| 04:01.52 | Waggie | I'm ever so used to editing my X config by hand. |
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| 04:02.03 | Kofif | me too. |
| 04:02.07 | psilikon | xam: I thought you could run 32bit Os's on em64t... i mean they still have the 32bit architecture.. it is not like it is an itanium chip |
| 04:02.14 | Kofif | well its all seems to work. |
| 04:02.44 | Kofif | still |
| 04:02.48 | Kofif | any configuration ill give it |
| 04:02.49 | hornhead | Is anyone else getting GPG errors from their apt-get updates? How can I correct this? |
| 04:02.50 | Kofif | same error |
| 04:03.00 | Kofif | No core pointer |
| 04:03.09 | Kofif | mdetect is not working , meaning dosnt find nothing . |
| 04:03.12 | xam | psilikon: I'm confused now. I thought you were talking about Itanium(2) ... at least you said 'ia64' earlier! |
| 04:03.22 | Whistleboy | anyone know if there is a 1.5 thunderbird package? |
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| 04:04.08 | psilikon | xam: yes i did... sorry |
| 04:04.12 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:04.41 | psilikon | xam: that is what deb calls the 64 bit version |
| 04:05.05 | Kofif | wierd problem |
| 04:05.06 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:05.12 | Waggie | Kofif: Out of morbid curiosity, have you tried testing all the hardware on this machine with a Live CD? |
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| 04:05.25 | xam | psilikon: no, ia64 are debs for the itanium machines |
| 04:05.31 | Kofif | no |
| 04:05.43 | Waggie | The Ubuntu live CD is a half-decent test of hardware. |
| 04:05.48 | psilikon | xam: so back to my first question. If i install the i386 version on my intel chip with the EM64T stuff will I be missing out on any performance? |
| 04:05.50 | Kofif | i found my old woody cd and decided to install it. |
| 04:05.54 | psilikon | xam: really? |
| 04:06.12 | xam | psilikon: yes. |
| 04:06.21 | Kofif | and i realy forgot all the basics :\ |
| 04:06.46 | Kofif | well , its only a mouse that stops me now from X |
| 04:06.58 | Kofif | mdetect is useless , any other tool like that? |
| 04:08.16 | xam | psilikon: for 32bit x86 (also known as ia32) on a em64t/amd64 machine it should run without any performance penalties |
| 04:08.53 | Waggie | Kofif: I dunno, I've never had any problems detecting mice before, not since the serial mouse days. |
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| 04:09.19 | el_macnifico | hola |
| 04:09.23 | Waggie | Kofif: Have you ever testing any OS on this system before? |
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| 04:09.35 | Waggie | Hello. |
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| 04:10.00 | psilikon | xam: thanks for straightening that out for me.... i really got confused |
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| 04:10.59 | xam | psilikon: no worries, it is kinda confusing I have to admit |
| 04:11.01 | Waggie | I'm having an issue with amavisd-new. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 04:11.18 | el_macnifico | somone knows about th project debian-arequipa??? |
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| 04:11.50 | el_macnifico | + |
| 04:11.57 | el_macnifico | +|+++956-+6|3 |
| 04:12.07 | dsl_ | Does anyone here happen to know why "nx", the low bandwidth remote desktop package, isn't in unstable? |
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| 04:12.30 | psilikon | i know I could google this but.. you guys might have a better idea. I am looking for a really good howto on updated the default kernel for sarge to say maybe 2.6.12 (i'm new to linux/debian) |
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| 04:12.48 | psilikon | updated=updating |
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| 04:14.23 | klync | psilikon: i'm currently reading: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 04:14.34 | jilocasin | 'ello again |
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| 04:14.49 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.51 | Waggie | psilikon: It's generally easy enough to do a package installation. |
| 04:14.52 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can change the fonts or desktop icon sizes in gnome? |
| 04:15.07 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.11 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.23 | Kofif | AMAN |
| 04:15.27 | Kofif | got X working |
| 04:15.27 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:15.28 | Kofif | :] |
| 04:15.45 | psilikon | klync: thanks |
| 04:15.49 | klync | psilikon: :) |
| 04:16.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: It's in your preferences. |
| 04:17.06 | psilikon | What if i start out with the base install (just console) and then add X and a WM later as I need it. Since the first thing I need to do it get my Dell's onboard NIC working and I wanna learn debian from the ground up. Good idea or bad idea. Oh plus I will have to struggle to get my ati vid card working |
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| 04:17.12 | klync | psilikon: at the risk of being flamed by the paranoid, i'll admit i do it all as root |
| 04:17.36 | klync | psilikon: good idea if you have another comp with a browser :) |
| 04:17.38 | jilocasin | Waggie: It says it's 10 pt, but it's the largest 10pt font I've ever seen |
| 04:17.51 | psilikon | klync: luckily I have my work laptop |
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| 04:18.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: What's your dpi set to? |
| 04:18.22 | klync | psilikon: ya, then for sure... do you know any other linuxes? |
| 04:18.30 | Waggie | jilocasin: and what's your screen resolution? |
| 04:18.46 | klync | or should i say gnu/*nix |
| 04:18.47 | jilocasin | Waggie: 1280x1024 on a 19" monitor |
| 04:18.53 | Waggie | brb.. |
| 04:19.05 | psilikon | klync: i messed with slackware years ago, then tried fedora, suse, mandrake and gnoppix |
| 04:19.17 | myren | I'm running 1400x1120 on my 19" but i'm a freak |
| 04:19.18 | psilikon | and mayeb other ones that I forgot about :) |
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| 04:20.19 | jilocasin | Waggie: the desktop icon's are about 1" square |
| 04:20.35 | erratic | can anyone help me disable this? nothing on google has helped : Reading package lists... Done |
| 04:20.39 | erratic | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 04:20.42 | erratic | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 04:20.44 | erratic | root@Alice:/etc/apt# |
| 04:20.51 | erratic | apparently a really big problem that alot of people are having and nobody is helping |
| 04:20.55 | seba | part #debian |
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| 04:20.57 | Guerin | !topicbadger erratic |
| 04:20.57 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that erratic didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 04:21.10 | erratic | fuck the topic |
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| 04:21.19 | Guerin | heh |
| 04:21.20 | klync | lol |
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| 04:21.38 | Guerin | that's his problem - he's trying to fuck it instead of reading it |
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| 04:22.09 | djperegrine | I have a usb device plugged in, but when I plugged it in lsusb doesn't change at all |
| 04:22.24 | djperegrine | what steps should I take to get it to reconize that it exists |
| 04:22.25 | afabian | can xmms play cds directly? |
| 04:22.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: In your 'Font Preferences' go to Detail, at the top is says what the resolution is. |
| 04:22.49 | klync | afabian: ya, just add the tracks to the playlist |
| 04:22.55 | afabian | ok, thanks. |
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| 04:23.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 96 |
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| 04:23.45 | psilikon | if the debian installer does not see my NIC is there anyway to just continue the install? |
| 04:24.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: So your desktop icons are extraordinarily large too, or just the fonts? |
| 04:24.28 | isorox | djperegrine, does dmesg report anything |
| 04:24.33 | jilocasin | Waggie: both |
| 04:24.50 | jilocasin | Waggie: the windows. widgets, etc. |
| 04:25.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: Try changing the dpi to a lower number, like 72. |
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| 04:26.57 | psilikon | oh i got it. just needed to enter 'no ethernet card' |
| 04:27.10 | Waggie | jilocasin: you're actually running at 1280x1024, with no panning? |
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| 04:27.28 | jilocasin | Waggie: yep, 19" monitor |
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| 04:27.52 | rapsys | Hy |
| 04:27.59 | rapsys | I have a problem with apt-get |
| 04:28.13 | rapsys | I get this : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 04:28.28 | rapsys | how can I fix that to add the proper key ? |
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| 04:29.48 | thedcm | is it true that "debian" is an ancient african swear word? |
| 04:29.56 | thedcm | I might be thinking of "unbuntu" |
| 04:30.06 | thedcm | "ubuntu" sorry |
| 04:30.07 | jpriest | I get the following error when installing the "testing" apt sources over network install floppies. "No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/etch".. stable installed fine, so I was wondering if this was a known problem with 'testing' and can it be fixed? |
| 04:30.14 | rapsys | ok |
| 04:30.18 | rapsys | I fixed that |
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| 04:31.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 72 is the right size, but it's all "fuzzy" |
| 04:31.22 | dondelelcaro | jpriest: just install the base of stable and upgrade, or use the etch d-i, or fix the debootstrap scripts. |
| 04:31.26 | jilocasin | Waggie: do yuo think I need a better font? |
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| 04:31.33 | Paul`` | Hi all. I'm trying to access a failed server running debian woody. I've got a KVM connection to the machine and during the boot process, it freezes after checking quotas. I'm wondering what I can do at this point to get to a prompt and figure out what's gone wrong on the machine. |
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| 04:31.49 | Paul`` | last message I see is "Checking quotas... Cannot get exact used space... Results might be inaccurate." |
| 04:32.12 | mboso | how do you find out what options a package was compiled with? and what library versions it was compiled against... |
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| 04:32.24 | brick | well Paul``, you can always boot from another medium and mount its disks |
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| 04:33.29 | jpriest | dondelelcaro, I upgraded to kernel 2.6 in stable and it showed a panic error on boot. I was hoping unstable configured 2.6 from the start without much trouble. Is it all that common for the "panic" error after upgrade? |
| 04:33.33 | Paul`` | brick: I don't want to go that route just yet as it means sending someone to the datacenter... is there any key combination I can enter to have it boot read only or something of that nature so that I can get in there and figure out what the problem might be? If I press CTRL-C at that prompt, it attempts to unlink a bunch of stuff and says it's starting the system log daemon |
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| 04:34.30 | brick | Paul``: i have no idea when that happens in the boot process or whether you can get around it booting off the same medium, but i doubt it. good luck |
| 04:35.06 | [Cadet] | Paul``: tried booting single user mode |
| 04:36.00 | zeballin3 | rapsys: for the gpg error see: http://debcentral.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=117&forum=8 |
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| 04:37.22 | khermans_ | How to add local library path for binaries to check? I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and that works when I am logged in remotely, but on this shared web server PHP's system/exec are not using it :-( Is there no way? |
| 04:37.57 | khermans_ | i assume this is because my user has no effect on the Apache environment variables |
| 04:40.15 | raf256 | why dmesg shows some messages that are not logged by sysklog? |
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| 04:40.34 | raf256 | how to make sysklog to log ALLLL messages? even *.* in /etc/syslog.conf didnt helped |
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| 04:43.00 | centrx | raf256, those messages dmesg has that syslog does not are from the kernel and not sent to syslog, probably because those messages occurred before syslog was started in the bootup process or after it was stopped in the shutdown process |
| 04:43.18 | raf256 | centrx: nope |
| 04:43.19 | djperegrine | how do I search all files ? |
| 04:43.29 | djperegrine | like inculding the contents of the file? |
| 04:43.34 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.jpg" |
| 04:43.36 | brick | grep dude |
| 04:44.00 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.08 | raf256 | or get krusader program |
| 04:44.10 | djperegrine | lol |
| 04:44.15 | djperegrine | I don't have KDE |
| 04:44.20 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec grep pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.31 | raf256 | djperegrine: you dont have to have KDE to run KDE applications, mon |
| 04:44.38 | djperegrine | I don't have the lib |
| 04:44.44 | Guerin | kde is not the answer |
| 04:44.47 | raf256 | apt-get install krusader |
| 04:44.54 | raf256 | Guerin: even Linus uses kde ;) |
| 04:44.56 | djperegrine | I don't want to install the lib |
| 04:45.26 | raf256 | djperegrine: cool so go with the find&grep, or try string | grep on /dev/hda ;) |
| 04:45.41 | raf256 | strings |
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| 04:47.29 | djperegrine | so |
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| 04:50.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: What font are you currently using? |
| 04:50.37 | djperegrine | find ./ -name ".*" | grep blabla |
| 04:50.40 | djperegrine | would that work? |
| 04:50.51 | djperegrine | er |
| 04:51.12 | raf256 | somethong simmilar |
| 04:51.15 | raf256 | probably |
| 04:51.26 | raf256 | I would just use normal X tool, but... |
| 04:51.48 | arcane | does anyone know if its possible too determine if a print-job in cups if its completed/error/notdone ? |
| 04:51.50 | Waggie | djperegrine: Are you running Gnome? |
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| 04:52.01 | djperegrine | no |
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| 04:52.25 | Waggie | arcane: Try 'lpq' for starters |
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| 04:52.47 | arcane | yup, at some point will print jobs stop showing up within that tho? |
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| 04:53.18 | arcane | you can specify too show all completed or not-completed.... but surely after several thousands jobs have been passed thru your not gonna see the entire list each time (of completed) |
| 04:53.37 | Waggie | Well, if it's a printer that would show anything there at all, then in that case it'll stop showing up there when the print job has completely disappeared from the system. |
| 04:54.24 | Waggie | ie: It's completed printing, or it's gone into the bit bucket. |
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| 04:54.43 | Waggie | Though, I'm not very experienced with printing stuff. |
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| 05:01.11 | zeballin3 | I did a 'mark' in synaptic for a dist (smart) upgrade and I see nautlis and a bunch of gnome stuff is slated for removal? |
| 05:02.11 | hornhead | does anyone know how to upload an entire directory with sftp? |
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| 05:03.23 | arcane | Waggie, im surprised there no functionality in the api to query for a job and figure out what status it i in, how many retries its had etc etc |
| 05:03.52 | [Cadet] | hornhead: scp -r files_to_upload user@host:/destination works nicely |
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| 05:06.25 | SerajewelKS | hornhead: or tar it, upload, and untar |
| 05:07.04 | odla | well i upgraded to testing but now my kernel wont' load my X won't start |
| 05:07.57 | SerajewelKS | odla: if your kernel doesn't load, then how could your X start? |
| 05:08.03 | SerajewelKS | odla: what exactly is going wrong? |
| 05:08.18 | Waggie | odla: Providing error messages is vital. |
| 05:08.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, well it loaded initially in 2.6.8 |
| 05:08.38 | SerajewelKS | odla: and please define "load" |
| 05:08.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i was able to get to command prompt where X failed |
| 05:09.09 | odla | SerajewelKS, this is likely because i was used X.Org 6.9 from bpo |
| 05:09.10 | SerajewelKS | odla: and whether or not it "loaded" in 2.6.8 is irrelevant. as i asked, what exactly is going wrong, not what used to work? |
| 05:09.35 | odla | SerajewelKS, well when i try to boot into 2.6.15 or 2.6.8 it forces me to run fschk |
| 05:09.41 | odla | SerajewelKS, or reboot |
| 05:09.46 | SerajewelKS | odla: so? run fsck. |
| 05:10.07 | odla | SerajewelKS, well i run fsck and then it brings me to a prompt where my user is (none) |
| 05:10.13 | odla | SerajewelKS, it tells me to reboot, so i reboot |
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| 05:10.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i get to the same panic where it asks me to run fsck again |
| 05:10.40 | SerajewelKS | odla: what does the panic say? |
| 05:10.50 | SerajewelKS | odla: and don't paraphrase. what *exactly* shows up on your monitor? |
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| 05:11.37 | odla | SerajewelKS, i don't remember....i have only one computer and i unfortunately can't be in linux and windows at the same time |
| 05:11.43 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am d/l knoppix now |
| 05:11.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am going to try to save all of my data |
| 05:11.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: do you have pencil and paper? |
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| 05:12.03 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i'll give you a better idea of the panic when i try to reboot |
| 05:12.11 | isorox | odla: what file system is your root partition (reiser, ext3). Did you complile support for in into the kernel, and if so did you do it as a module? |
| 05:12.11 | klync | odla: so, are you booting into an emergency repair console? |
| 05:12.12 | odla | SerajewelKS, i'll write it down |
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| 05:12.50 | klync | isorox: that's probably a good guess, odla ^^ |
| 05:12.58 | odla | so right after it asks about udev it tells me something about my filesystem being read-only or something |
| 05:13.11 | SerajewelKS | and, fyi, when the kernel panics, it stops dead. it doesn't panic and then give you a shell to run fsck. a panic is just that: the kernel yells something at you and halts. |
| 05:13.19 | odla | ok |
| 05:13.31 | SerajewelKS | so either it's not panicing or it's not giving you a shell |
| 05:13.33 | odla | again...i'll give you guys a better idea of my problem when i can reboot |
| 05:13.41 | klync | :) |
| 05:13.50 | odla | it halts then asks me to enter root password or press control + D to reboot |
| 05:13.56 | SerajewelKS | if you have a digital camera you can take shots and post them, too.. so you don't have to write it down |
| 05:14.04 | odla | that's a good idea |
| 05:14.13 | SerajewelKS | odla: that is maintenance mode |
| 05:14.31 | SerajewelKS | odla: if you got that far then it was able to mount / |
| 05:14.34 | centrx | odla, what is the error message |
| 05:14.39 | odla | SerajewelKS, ok |
| 05:14.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: but, i think you mentioned it said something about read-only.. so it probably mounted it RO |
| 05:15.10 | odla | centrx, i don't remember...it just tells me to enter root password or reboot |
| 05:15.15 | centrx | which would be the standard procedure |
| 05:15.34 | centrx | odla, without the error message there is really no way to tell you much of what is wrong or how it can be helped |
| 05:15.51 | odla | well i know :) |
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| 05:17.50 | odla | do you guys know if i'll be able to access my debian partition from a knoppix cd (note: i've already posted this question to #knoppix with no response) |
| 05:17.58 | odla | and yes i know this is #debian and not #knoppix |
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| 05:19.00 | dawg | of course |
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| 05:20.21 | bunga | hi all what tool to load webserver fast |
| 05:20.22 | caphuso | odla: depends on the exact nature of your debian partitions and what features the knoppix kernel supports. so the answer is a clear and exact "maybe" |
| 05:20.28 | bunga | i'm use apache2 with php4 |
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| 05:20.31 | bunga | and mysql 5 |
| 05:21.21 | litage | how can you limit the upload and download speed for a NIC? |
| 05:21.24 | tyler | how do i see contents of my usb hdd? |
| 05:21.47 | mark_ | I was wondering is there is some page which is dedicated to solving "evasive problems", e.g. when it is not clear what's happening and what's wrong -- but something is wrong. E.g. in my case the system boots 45 minutes (instead of 1) |
| 05:21.49 | roue | it's usually made available at /dev/sda |
| 05:22.03 | bunga | !tweak apache |
| 05:22.08 | bunga | !infov tweak apache |
| 05:22.11 | bunga | !info tweak apache |
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| 05:23.04 | roue | mark_ start in single user mode and manually launch stuff in /etc/init.d till you find the culprit |
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| 05:25.26 | psilikon | how do i get back into the installation program from the console in debian? |
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| 05:25.51 | mark_ | roue: That would not help in my case (I already found an answer: the problem was in the fact that caching of the last 10 megs of memory was disabled, which by accident are hevaily used by linux)... But the amount of time I spent searching could be significantly decreased if there would be such a page.. so was wondering if such a page exists or is worth creating? :) |
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| 05:27.12 | roue | mark_ post a summary with as much detail as you can gather to one of the linux usenet groups.] |
| 05:27.17 | Paul`` | well, I'll tell you what... damn annoying that a server was brought down by quota |
| 05:27.34 | roue | then it'll be googlable in full till the sun burns out. |
| 05:27.53 | roue | that's always the first place I look |
| 05:28.11 | bunga | heloooooooooooooooooooo worlddddd |
| 05:28.37 | klync | if i've made a .deb that might be useful to others, where's a good place to submit it? |
| 05:28.49 | mark_ | roue: well... yeah... but there are already such descriptions in usenet newsgroup (that's where i found the answer_, but i had to try 1000 different queries and spend half a day on finding it :) |
| 05:29.20 | peterS | klync: check www.apt-get.org, they might be able to arrange somewhere |
| 05:29.34 | peterS | klync: also www.dotdeb.org |
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| 05:33.23 | klync | peterS: hmm... well, since it's a one-off, i doubt a real apt repository would host it, so maybe just on my website instead, tho no one will find it there |
| 05:33.45 | peterS | klync: that's always the problem - publicity for the stuff you want people to have access to |
| 05:33.50 | klync | peterS: it's a patched kernel, fyi |
| 05:34.02 | peterS | klync: out of curiosity, what sort of patchign? |
| 05:34.04 | klync | ... which i'm about to try out, now that it's installed |
| 05:34.26 | klync | peterS: realtime-lsm patch for audio |
| 05:34.42 | Kofif | what sound server is used nowdays with kernels 2.6 ? |
| 05:34.44 | klync | peterS: and raid1 built in :) |
| 05:34.50 | klync | Kofif: alsa |
| 05:34.58 | Kofif | no more artsd ? |
| 05:35.09 | klync | err, well, for a sound server... |
| 05:35.10 | peterS | Kofif: you can use any of them. it seems jackd is on its way up |
| 05:35.23 | peterS | Kofif: with alsa you don't really *need* any sound server though |
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| 05:36.37 | Kofif | when i try to play soun i get permission denie in the debug window |
| 05:36.48 | Kofif | what can i do to make it have premission |
| 05:36.49 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:37.00 | peterS | Kofif: 'adduser yourusername audio' |
| 05:37.04 | gpm | um. hey guys. i just installed and ran ntpdate, but my clock remains the same, and incorrect. any clues or solutions? |
| 05:37.19 | peterS | gpm: ntpdate refuses to do anything if ntpd is running |
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| 05:37.47 | gpm | peterS: there's no ntpd showing up in ps ax |
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| 05:38.03 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:38.07 | Kofif | still dosnt play |
| 05:38.11 | peterS | gpm: so what did ntpdate do? did it print any errors or anything? |
| 05:38.26 | gpm | peterS: i ran the init.d script. no errors.... |
| 05:38.28 | Kofif | if i try to use oss it tells me failed to open audio device /dev/dsp |
| 05:38.36 | Kofif | premission denie |
| 05:38.38 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:38.53 | peterS | Kofif: after the adduser you have to log out / log in for it to take effect |
| 05:38.59 | Kofif | ok lets try |
| 05:39.05 | gpm | peterS: if i run ntpdate -b time.nist.gov, i get: 12 Jan 05:38:36 ntpdate[7505]: step time server 192.43.244.18 offset 0.095694 sec |
| 05:39.27 | peterS | gpm: so it thinks your clock is within 0.1 seconds of being correct. you disagree? |
| 05:39.51 | gpm | peterS: nm, i needed to do tzconfig...the timezone was utc for some reason |
| 05:40.03 | peterS | gpm: *nod*, that was going to be my next question (: |
| 05:40.39 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/502016 look at this |
| 05:41.04 | Kofif | after restarting x and doing adduser $USER audio ( when $USER is my username ) |
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| 05:41.36 | peterS | Kofif: type 'groups' and see if the 'audio' group is in there |
| 05:42.11 | Kofif | no cant see that |
| 05:42.31 | Kofif | ~$ cat /etc/passwd | grep audio |
| 05:42.33 | Kofif | none. |
| 05:42.40 | dawg | .. |
| 05:42.55 | xam | Kofif: did you restart X and _then_ the adduser? |
| 05:43.01 | Kofif | no |
| 05:43.08 | Kofif | adduser then restart X |
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| 05:44.08 | Kofif | should i chmod 755 /dev/dsp ? |
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| 05:45.16 | Kofif | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.25 | Kofif | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.27 | peterS | Kofif: you seem a bit confused. I told you to type 'groups' and you typed 'cat /etc/passwd | grep'. |
| 05:45.40 | Kofif | ~# groups |
| 05:45.42 | Kofif | root |
| 05:45.50 | peterS | Kofif: I didn't mean as root, I meant as your normal user. sorry. |
| 05:45.53 | Kofif | ~$ groups |
| 05:45.54 | Kofif | awk |
| 05:46.14 | peterS | Kofif: ok so you didn't do the 'adduser' before logging in this latest time. because if you had, it would say 'awk audio' |
| 05:46.21 | peterS | Kofif: so do it: adduser awk audio |
| 05:46.27 | Kilhd | After using command "apt-get install tcl8.4" eggdrop complains that tcl isn't installed and I need to pass configure --with-tclpath How can I find where it is installed? |
| 05:46.46 | peterS | Kilhd: it'll be /usr/bin/tcl8.4 most likely |
| 05:46.49 | Kofif | The user `awk' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 05:46.55 | Kilhd | k |
| 05:46.59 | Waggie | Gods, people still use eggdrop bots? |
| 05:47.10 | peterS | Kofif: ok so log out and back in again |
| 05:47.12 | Kofif | you wont imagine how many :] |
| 05:47.16 | Waggie | I remember setting up an eggdrop about 8 years ago.. |
| 05:47.24 | Kilhd | What's wrong with eggdrop? |
| 05:47.26 | Waggie | Or was it longer.. |
| 05:47.34 | peterS | Kilhd: actually do this, 'dpkg -l tcl8.4 | grep bin/' |
| 05:47.35 | Waggie | Nothing, I'm just feeling old.. Don't mind me. |
| 05:47.42 | Waggie | :) |
| 05:47.43 | zinx | Kilhd: has always had some pretty horrible vulnerabilities |
| 05:47.43 | Kilhd | heh, k. |
| 05:47.52 | zinx | Kilhd: it was programmed with security completely out of mind |
| 05:48.03 | Waggie | Very true.. |
| 05:48.10 | Kilhd | Is there an alternative? I am open to suggestion. |
| 05:48.15 | Waggie | infobots seem to be all the rage these days. |
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| 05:48.20 | Kofif | Works |
| 05:48.25 | Kofif | thank you very much ! |
| 05:48.32 | peterS | Waggie: infobots don't have the same functionality eggdrops do, though |
| 05:48.34 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:48.43 | Waggie | Those, nowhere near as many features as eggdrop, though. |
| 05:48.49 | Waggie | Yeah, I know.. |
| 05:48.51 | Kofif | got new kernel got x got irc got music ... ummm |
| 05:49.00 | peterS | Waggie: that's like saying "your portable mp3 player is an old brand, you should get a car stereo" |
| 05:49.02 | Kofif | what do you say mates xine or VLC ? |
| 05:49.08 | Waggie | Kofif: All you need now is porno. :) |
| 05:49.12 | Waggie | VLC.. |
| 05:49.16 | Kofif | thought so |
| 05:49.35 | Kofif | omg 24mb |
| 05:49.47 | Kofif | it comes with free porno or something ? |
| 05:49.49 | Waggie | VLC has lots of features. :) |
| 05:49.51 | Kofif | :] |
| 05:49.57 | Waggie | But no porno. |
| 05:50.05 | Kofif | heehee |
| 05:50.20 | Kofif | the only thing that i must get on working is hebrew fonts for my console .. |
| 05:50.29 | dawg | mplayer. |
| 05:50.30 | Kofif | only managed to set it to work with X :\ |
| 05:50.51 | Kofif | and with vim :] |
| 05:51.10 | Waggie | I've never set the console for anything but english character sets.. |
| 05:51.19 | Kofif | i did, |
| 05:51.24 | Kofif | its an art |
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| 05:51.43 | Kofif | hebrew is a right to left language, just imagin the bugs :P |
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| 05:51.47 | Kilhd | bah.. ok now eggdrop tells me my tcl is much too old and to install tcl8.4 = / |
| 05:52.01 | Kofif | Kilhd so compile tcl from source |
| 05:52.19 | Kofif | or use older eggdrop :] |
| 05:52.23 | Waggie | Kofif: What's frightening is that from what I hear, Linux and Mac have the best right-to-left support. |
| 05:52.36 | Kilhd | Heh.. Guess I will try that now. |
| 05:52.39 | Kofif | bullshit |
| 05:52.49 | Kofif | linux is not good at all with right to left |
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| 05:53.06 | Kofif | win32 got it sorted much better. |
| 05:53.24 | Waggie | I'm curious, why did you configure with an english character set during install? |
| 05:54.02 | Kofif | because the keyboard makes some issues with kernel 2.6 upgrade |
| 05:54.09 | Kofif | ( as i learned tonight ) |
| 05:54.10 | Kofif | lol |
| 05:54.15 | Waggie | Ah |
| 05:54.17 | Waggie | Interesting.. |
| 05:54.32 | Kofif | 3 hours i didnt know why im keeping ending in a dead end. |
| 05:54.38 | Kofif | and im NOT new to linux |
| 05:54.54 | Kofif | i just forgot A-LOT |
| 05:54.56 | Kofif | :\ |
| 05:55.02 | Waggie | <nods> |
| 05:55.28 | Kofif | i used to have a nice bash interface that i wrote that installs and configures everything for me |
| 05:55.34 | Kofif | lost it on hdd fail :\ |
| 05:55.40 | Waggie | That's a bummer. :( |
| 05:55.55 | Kofif | and when you do bash interfaces , you do it once and forget :] |
| 05:56.47 | Kofif | here is a free one http://www.yonatan.securehost.co.il/backup/bash/cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:56.54 | Kofif | :] just sh cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:57.16 | Kofif | still has a nasty bug with the maths but im too lazy to make a workaround. |
| 05:57.33 | caphuso | badly written |
| 05:57.49 | Kofif | written under a heavy influence of Marijuana |
| 05:57.50 | Kofif | ;] |
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| 05:58.18 | buu | Ok, so what file system do I put on large raid?\ |
| 05:58.27 | Kofif | me and my friend just screened on the same shell and startd writing |
| 05:58.50 | Kofif | dose it work for you ? |
| 05:58.53 | Kofif | my script |
| 05:58.54 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:59.14 | Kofif | it should work on just about any distro |
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| 06:02.31 | caphuso | this is great... echo `sed -e "s,\\\[a-z],,g" /etc/issue` |
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| 06:03.04 | Kofif | tnx |
| 06:03.30 | caphuso | you should append a "| cat" to it though |
| 06:03.51 | caphuso | and maybe even a '| while read a; do echo "$a"; done' |
| 06:03.53 | Kofif | got better ideas just make em and mail :] |
| 06:04.07 | Kofif | i wanted to keep it simple |
| 06:04.17 | Kofif | only if you can fix the ram calculation bug |
| 06:04.22 | Kofif | that's the major bug |
| 06:04.45 | Kofif | Memory Usage: [303/503] MB |
| 06:04.46 | Kofif | :\ |
| 06:04.50 | Kofif | 512!!!! |
| 06:05.24 | Kofif | i thought ill do like a table with parameters like if the value is from 500 to 512 then echo 512 |
| 06:05.28 | Kofif | but that's ugly. |
| 06:05.35 | Kofif | i want it to come from the hardware |
| 06:05.49 | dos000 | is there a one liner to check if i can correctly send email via exim4 ? also what do you use as smtp for outgoing mail ? |
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| 06:06.15 | deadcat | dos000: echo blah | mail user@somewhere |
| 06:06.36 | Kofif | :] reminds me of mailbomb scripts |
| 06:06.38 | deadcat | postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo outgoing anyone? i cant get it working |
| 06:06.40 | Kofif | lol |
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| 06:07.01 | Zugschlus | !dpkg tell dos000 about swaks |
| 06:07.09 | dos000 | deadcat, i tried echo "my test" | mail -s "test message" me@<mycom.com> i still dont get it :-( |
| 06:07.26 | deadcat | dos000: we have same problem then. what ISP you using? |
| 06:07.36 | Kofif | is the service running ? |
| 06:07.40 | deadcat | dos000: check mailq |
| 06:08.04 | caphuso | and check /var/log/exim4/* |
| 06:08.18 | Kofif | umm i love exim |
| 06:08.18 | dos000 | deadcat, i see frozen mail ! |
| 06:08.45 | Kofif | well that's good :] its working. |
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| 06:08.45 | Kofif | at least tryed to. |
| 06:08.49 | deadcat | dos000: time to fix exim. we have similar problem |
| 06:09.11 | caphuso | frozen mail isn't a problem, it's a symptom |
| 06:10.11 | dos000 | caphuso, i think my smpt for outgoing is screwd. are you supposed to run an smtp deamon on the same machine for sending mail ? |
| 06:10.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.25 | Kofif | meaning |
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| 06:10.46 | Kofif | check your hosts |
| 06:10.52 | caphuso | dos000: read the log files. that'll tell you what went wrong |
| 06:11.13 | Kofif | exim.conf <<-- + man + time |
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| 06:14.17 | holycow | hey guys, if i want to start a service when a server boots i just haveto symlink to it in rcS.d correct? |
| 06:14.23 | dos000 | caphuso, i set the smtp server as localhost so it says " remote host address is the local host: " ... |
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| 06:14.40 | Paul`` | I had a debian woody system that would not boot and would hang when checking quotas... I subsequently disabled quotas in /etc/fstab and was able to get the system to boot without issue.... any clues as to what might have prevented the system from booting and how I could go about ensuring that the system/root processes aren't inhibited by quota limitations? |
| 06:15.00 | Kofif | errrrrr i just loged on to one of my servers , what do i see , one of the users idles for 8hrs in the SSH |
| 06:15.00 | dos000 | caphuso, my assumption was that the smtp server is running on the same machine mail is originating from |
| 06:15.04 | holycow | how come the last 2 symlinks i put in rcS.d are now in rc3.d? if i want to delete those i remove them from rc3.d and recreate new links in rcS.d (the startup scripts are new anyway) ? |
| 06:15.05 | atrus | does anybody know how to extract the audio commentary my camera (hp photosmart 435) attached to an image? |
| 06:15.32 | caphuso | dos000: "the smtp server"? |
| 06:15.33 | Kofif | is there anything i hate more then idle users on my machines ?! :| omg i wanna shoot somebody! |
| 06:17.07 | vulture | Kofif: just kill them.. *shrugs* |
| 06:17.17 | Kofif | haha , not kill |
| 06:17.19 | Kofif | slay even :] |
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| 06:17.28 | caphuso | holycow: read /etc/init.d/README and all the docs it points to to learn which runlevel is used when and for what |
| 06:17.42 | holycow | caphuso, oh right ! good enough, thanks! |
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| 06:17.44 | benjamindees | what's the best way to configure wine in sarge? |
| 06:19.00 | dos000 | caphuso, in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config i selected "mail sent by smart host" so it asks for the outgoing smtp server address.. but all i need is for this box to send mail ! |
| 06:19.26 | Kofif | Max Out: 15.5 Mb/s (15.5%) Average Out: 3943.2 kb/s (3.9%) Current Out: 1232.8 kb/s (1.2%) |
| 06:19.36 | Kofif | oo 15.5Mb/s yesterday |
| 06:19.42 | caphuso | dos000: use your ISP mail server as smarthost |
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| 06:20.04 | dos000 | caphuso, my server is in a data center :-( |
| 06:20.31 | caphuso | dos000: then don't use the smarthost setup |
| 06:20.47 | EleckttrusS | ChanServ, |
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| 06:22.40 | dos000 | caphuso, thanks .. i used internet site and seems working |
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| 06:23.25 | Kofif | anyone got to use itanium based machines in realtime yet ? :] |
| 06:23.36 | Kofif | im wondering if its afficent. |
| 06:23.49 | xam | Kofif: running one here |
| 06:23.59 | Kofif | as a server i mean |
| 06:24.29 | Kofif | mail / web / sql / ircd / ftp |
| 06:24.45 | Kofif | and i mean a hard working one. |
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| 06:24.47 | jm_ | we have several Itanium servers here |
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| 06:25.00 | Kofif | how are they load wise |
| 06:25.10 | Kofif | game servers even. |
| 06:25.47 | xam | Kofif: game servers? I doubt you'll find any game server software for ia64 ... |
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| 06:25.59 | jm_ | they're not being used for such things - they're test machines for our product |
| 06:26.06 | Kofif | ah |
| 06:26.08 | Kofif | test machines |
| 06:26.16 | Kofif | im talking about a working internet server |
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| 06:26.29 | Kofif | all the way used |
| 06:26.33 | Kofif | proxy even! lol |
| 06:26.46 | jm_ | ROFFLE |
| 06:27.03 | xam | jm_ I feel with you ;) |
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| 06:31.39 | sandman | Does assembly require compiling? |
| 06:32.04 | Kofif | duh |
| 06:32.25 | xam | sandman: yes, kind of. Although it is very simple. |
| 06:32.27 | sandman | And when you write a program in C, it is a source file, which is turned into an object file, which is finally turned into a binary. Does assembly go straight from source to binary? I'm confused on the subject |
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| 06:33.00 | sandman | Or when you write a program in assembly, are you actually kind of starting out with an object file? |
| 06:33.03 | Kofif | ircin from ns servers is not cool. |
| 06:33.46 | Kofif | ok gtg |
| 06:33.47 | Kofif | :> |
| 06:34.00 | Kofif | c ya all ill pop by later or sometime |
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| 06:34.38 | deadcat | anyone plays counter-strike on linux? |
| 06:34.50 | xam | sandman: assembly is basically an object file, but with the CPU commands in text form |
| 06:35.15 | buu | So, how do I automagically set my clock? |
| 06:35.18 | sses | hi |
| 06:35.49 | buu | Oh, ntpdate |
| 06:35.50 | buu | Hurrah! |
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| 06:36.35 | sandman | xam: Right. And assembly is compiled using an assembler. |
| 06:36.52 | sandman | xam: Object files are unoptimized code, yes? |
| 06:36.59 | sandman | xam: Are object files binary? Are they actually executable? |
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| 06:37.51 | acad | i think mysql isn't starting when the server reboots, should i be doing something to tell it to start with init.d? |
| 06:37.57 | dos000 | anyone knows how to clear mailq ... google is not helping |
| 06:38.10 | eflynn | hi all, i'm designing a site for the cs dept of my university. i would like a news column that could be updated by a web interface. i'd write one myself in PHP but i'm worried about security and this has probably been done before anyway. something small and simple. any suggestions? |
| 06:38.13 | dos000 | exim mailq that is |
| 06:38.16 | afabian | The linker works on object files to link in library code, or put in the appropriate calls to access libraries. So, object files aren't executable. |
| 06:38.43 | dos000 | eflynn, try drupal .. or mambo they should have that |
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| 06:38.59 | eflynn | dos000: okay is it small? |
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| 06:39.25 | xam | sandman: yes. It is basically like every other programming language, only that this one only has very simple commands (basically the CPU instructions) as the syntax. Object files are binary, but usually not executable until they are linked |
| 06:39.26 | dos000 | eflynn, its a full blown cms ... |
| 06:40.06 | dos000 | eflynn, simple for who ? |
| 06:40.46 | eflynn | dos000: simple like not a bazillion options and less than 100k in scripts |
| 06:41.48 | dos000 | eflynn, check it out. i dont see why you want to reinvent here. at one one you will want/need the features. they are both very solid platforms |
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| 06:41.55 | buu | So, anyone want to recommend a file system for a largish raid'd volume that's mostly going to store largish files/ |
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| 06:43.06 | eflynn | kk i'll look into it. thanks |
| 06:43.11 | xam | sandman: an object file is code generated by a compiler or assembler, and doesn't have anything to do whether it is optimised or not. They and be further processed to become (part of) a library or an executable using a linker and other tools |
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| 06:44.07 | xam | buu: xfs is good for large files |
| 06:44.15 | buu | xam: By large files I mean over a meg |
| 06:44.27 | xam | buu: me too |
| 06:44.35 | buu | Oh good. |
| 06:44.43 | buu | Is it nicely stable and all that goodness? |
| 06:44.50 | xam | buu: yes |
| 06:44.53 | buu | Hurrah! |
| 06:45.00 | buu | I shall look in to it most deeply. |
| 06:45.06 | buu | OR at least, glancingly. |
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| 06:46.00 | dos000 | buu, i just read about cluster file system of some sort made by a film company ... what was it ... cant get my hand on it :-( |
| 06:46.17 | buu | dos000: Sounds.. overwrought |
| 06:47.07 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.20 | dos000 | nevyn, both |
| 06:47.26 | Gnea | dos000: what film company? |
| 06:47.31 | nevyn | not CXFS then? |
| 06:47.41 | dos000 | nevyn, i should say supported by |
| 06:47.48 | nevyn | Lustre? |
| 06:47.51 | dos000 | there |
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| 06:48.39 | sandman | Can MSVB programs be compiled to run on other architectures like SPARC? |
| 06:48.46 | dos000 | www.lustre.org cant remember where i read it |
| 06:48.58 | sandman | Because in my class I'm being taught that Visual Basic is supposed to be machine-independent, and I think it's rather much a rigged question. |
| 06:49.14 | dos000 | nevyn, are you familiar with lustre ? |
| 06:49.25 | nevyn | I've heard of it... |
| 06:49.40 | nevyn | and I know some people who use it but I havn't implemented it myself |
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| 06:49.59 | shad0w1e | How do I view memory allocation (used/free/swap) from the console? |
| 06:50.45 | nevyn | free |
| 06:50.53 | shad0w1e | thanks! |
| 06:50.55 | afabian | One could reasonably view any language as machine independent as long as it can be implemented on a Turing-complete machine. But Visual Basic. Gag. |
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| 06:51.16 | nevyn | sandman: machine independant may even be true.. |
| 06:51.27 | karlpinc | hello, anybody using LVM2 on their root partition? |
| 06:51.40 | nevyn | given an alpha version of VLBblah.dll and windows for alpha it might work |
| 06:51.40 | Gnea | karlpinc: that's possible? |
| 06:51.43 | sandman | nevyn: yeah but you must be using windows. |
| 06:51.58 | nevyn | sandman: it makes no claim about os independance |
| 06:52.00 | sandman | nevyn: Visual Basic binaries are legally incompatible with other OS's, yes? |
| 06:52.03 | karlpinc | gnea: well, the faq says it is. I have a separate /boot. |
| 06:52.06 | Gnea | hrm, i suppose initrd off of /boot ... |
| 06:52.06 | dos000 | nevyn, this is where i got it from http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/12/21/2125202.shtml?tid=69&tid=32 |
| 06:52.11 | afabian | It's possible, with the black magic of a separate boot and an initrd. |
| 06:52.22 | karlpinc | gena: yes |
| 06:52.23 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:52.47 | afabian | I wanted my root under LVM control for that way cool snapshotting feature. |
| 06:52.49 | Gnea | i tried doing lvm2 in suse 10.1 before, it didn't quite work out |
| 06:52.54 | NoboruKun | can debian handle heavy traffic as much as freebsd ? |
| 06:53.01 | karlpinc | gena: However, I do get a message about "Can't deactivate volume group" on shutdown. |
| 06:53.02 | xam | sandman: errm, define machine-independent. Most people would associate with that term that the generated code can be executed on any machine, much like java. This is not the case with VisualBasic. You could say it is machine.independent when it comes to the language syntax / source code, but AFAIK it is only/mostly used on Windows ... |
| 06:53.12 | Gnea | karlpinc: who's gena? |
| 06:53.23 | karlpinc | Yes, I want to try snapshots too. for backup. |
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| 06:53.46 | karlpinc | Gnea: sorry. fingers got away from me. |
| 06:54.08 | afabian | NoboruKun, the Linux 2.6 kernel series seemed to do better than FreeBSD 5.x by a few benchmarks I saw kicking around. But FreeBSD and Linux have both been under development for a while, and NetBSD cleaned up their network implementation not long ago. So... try them in your situation and see which does better. |
| 06:54.20 | Gnea | snapshots would be cool, i wonder if anyone's made a knoppix-based lvm2 installer |
| 06:54.37 | karlpinc | Anyhow, is anything written to disk when a volume group is deactivated? If not I guess it does not matter I'm getting the message. |
| 06:54.51 | NoboruKun | afabian, many thanks ..:) |
| 06:55.15 | newbie2debian | does sarge come with a firewall? |
| 06:55.18 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, i dislike the firewall in debian,its way too complicated to configure |
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| 06:55.54 | NoboruKun | afabian, i mean,has debian ever thought to introduct the firewall thing from freebsd ? i heard it was from openbsd to fbsd though |
| 06:56.02 | NoboruKun | introduce* |
| 06:56.08 | Gnea | karlpinc: i'm not sure, i never got it to work right in the first place |
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| 06:56.15 | karlpinc | (I really like OpenBSDs pf firewalling.) |
| 06:56.29 | newbie2debian | what firewall comes with debian sarge please? |
| 06:56.33 | afabian | NoboruKun, you're probably better off using whatever you're more comfortable with, really. I doubt the performance difference would be dramatic. |
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| 06:56.49 | karlpinc | Gnea: I just used the Sarge installer and found the trick was to use the 2.6 kernel. Then it worked fine. |
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| 06:57.23 | NoboruKun | afabian, hmm |
| 06:57.50 | afabian | NoboruKun, I doubt pf is an easy port to Linux. and I gather that iptables is more powerful, just ... a little inscrutable at times. I don't really know, I only set up pf once and the mere sight of iptables frightens me. |
| 06:58.29 | NoboruKun | i m scared of iptables :( |
| 06:58.40 | NoboruKun | Too many rules |
| 06:58.59 | Gnea | karlpinc: sarge installer with 2.6 will set LVM2 up? |
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| 06:59.10 | karlpinc | Gnea: Yes. |
| 06:59.14 | Gnea | ! |
| 06:59.34 | Gnea | of all the times i've used that, i never tried LVM2... never noticed it either |
| 06:59.35 | sandman | Are there any northbridges include IDE channels? |
| 06:59.39 | NoboruKun | afabian, so usually the different performance is depending on the kernel basically ? |
| 06:59.40 | xam | Noboru: iptables alone is not complicated, you'll get used to it. But in combination with arp/ebtables the nightmare begins ... |
| 06:59.41 | sandman | That is, northbridges that control HDDs? |
| 06:59.49 | sandman | Or are those generally still reserved for southbridges? |
| 07:00.14 | aerosmith | karlpinc: apt-get install firestarter,or apt-get install kmyfirewall in my opinion,or ipkungfu script is very good,there's also guarddog,i think,i prefer firestarter |
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| 07:00.34 | afabian | NoboruKun, yep. Linux 2.4 would perform differently than 2.6. Different operations take different amounts of time, so what is actually faster in practice is actually pretty hard to determine without just trying it out. |
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| 07:00.44 | karlpinc | Gnea: You manually partition. First you physically partition (in giant gobs except for the /boot), then you make physical volumes and the logical volumes from there. |
| 07:00.58 | Gnea | karlpinc: yeah |
| 07:01.04 | NoboruKun | afabian, i have tried both |
| 07:01.05 | NoboruKun | but |
| 07:01.30 | NoboruKun | i haven't tried them much,because i didn't have the chance to test them all in an extremely heavy traffic and such |
| 07:01.41 | NoboruKun | so i have been seeking for info about them online |
| 07:01.42 | Gnea | i still have to fix this nvidia problem on my laptop |
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| 07:01.51 | karlpinc | Gnea: No point in further partioning the logical volumes AFIK, I just put fs on them. |
| 07:01.54 | kino | is there any way to install rxvt with -pixmap support? |
| 07:02.08 | roue | bunga any luck? I got bumped off. |
| 07:02.10 | Gnea | it fixed on some other systems, but this laptop seems to have a problem of its own |
| 07:02.30 | karlpinc | aerosmith: I've heard good things about firestarter. |
| 07:02.49 | afabian | kino, I'm not sure exactly what that is, but the packaging system is pretty darn flexible. I downloaded the xemacs source, recompiled with a different widget set, and reinstalled. |
| 07:03.00 | karlpinc | Gnea: (Unless you know of some reason to not to put fs's directly on the lvs.) |
| 07:03.04 | kino | so I have to compile it? |
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| 07:03.25 | aerosmith | karlpinc: very easy,very good documentation,home page is www.fs-security.com i believe |
| 07:03.29 | afabian | kino, I don't really know what pixmap support is. But if compiling is required, you don't have to resort to /usr/local |
| 07:03.43 | kino | afabian: it lets you use a background image |
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| 07:04.06 | karlpinc | aerosmith: My trouble is I always like to frob the knobs, and wind up decending into config files. |
| 07:04.12 | Gnea | kino: apt-get source rxvt |
| 07:04.13 | NoboruKun | I plan to install debian |
| 07:04.43 | NoboruKun | for real,i am very much like the apt thing in debian this was the original reason which was letting me into debian for real |
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| 07:05.09 | NoboruKun | but i cannot find a book to learn debian |
| 07:05.09 | xam | NorboruKun: linux is very powerful - but can be very complex - when it comes to processing network packets, just look at this picture:http://ebtables.sourceforge.net/br_fw_ia/PacketFlow.png ... but the networking stack is still one of the fastest and scaleable out there |
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| 07:05.12 | Gnea | NoboruKun: so go install it |
| 07:05.23 | Haukkari | Hello everyone! How can I limit access to a computer for only one specific group? |
| 07:05.24 | kino | I switched to sid hehehe |
| 07:05.27 | NoboruKun | all of them are for other Linux distro <RH the most> plus BSDs |
| 07:05.28 | Gnea | NoboruKun: best way is to just install it and go from there... |
| 07:05.33 | Gnea | !newbie-guide |
| 07:05.33 | dpkg | well, newbie-guide is you've decided to do away with windows or are pondering it and want to use Linux.. good for you! But this isn't windows, you can't just install it and be up and running unless it's a livecd, that isn't even finished yet.. you need to RTFM (Read The Fine Manual) which are located at http://www.justlinux.com and http://www.tldp.org, also see http://www.debian.org and http://www.google.com chances are they know the answer! |
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| 07:06.09 | sses | does anyone know the command to reconfigure my sources.list simmilar to "base-config"? |
| 07:06.23 | xam | sses: apt-setup |
| 07:06.27 | Gnea | apt-setup |
| 07:06.31 | NoboruKun | xam, great picture :) |
| 07:06.31 | sses | thanks!!! |
| 07:06.34 | karlpinc | Soo..., anybody know if deactivating a volume group writes to disk? |
| 07:06.43 | afabian | NoboruKun, there's a Debian reference. Debian is very much a community project, unlike some commercial distributions, and you find a lot of HOWTOs and community support and such. If that's your bag, Debian is a good place to be. |
| 07:06.49 | sses | been looking for it for an while |
| 07:06.58 | sses | off of # |
| 07:07.02 | sses | II assume |
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| 07:07.22 | karlpinc | NoboruKun: aptitude is good, because it keeps track of what you asked to be installed v.s. what got installed automatically to support what you've asked for. |
| 07:08.01 | afabian | NoboruKun, stuff that's Debian specific is well-documented. Debian actually has a very specific policy. The rest is really kind of Linux-in-general knowledge. |
| 07:08.03 | NoboruKun | cool |
| 07:08.04 | Haukkari | Anyone? How can I allow only one group to login to a computer? |
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| 07:08.17 | xam | damn, that movie I just watched was bad ... |
| 07:08.33 | NoboruKun | afabian, yeah |
| 07:08.34 | karlpinc | Haukkari: The answer lurkes somwhere in Pam. |
| 07:08.48 | Gnea | Haukkari: change shells |
| 07:08.59 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah, that much I figured out already... |
| 07:09.08 | xam | I won't recommend 'mission impossible 2' to anybodf |
| 07:09.14 | Haukkari | karlpinc: I guess it's a lot of reading man-pages for me. |
| 07:09.25 | NoboruKun | Thank you all for the info. |
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| 07:10.09 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's a general include that all the pam modules use. You can modify that. I just haven't read the different module docs in a while. |
| 07:10.30 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (in /etc/pam.d/ is where the include is.) |
| 07:10.47 | Haukkari | /etc/login.access had something funky. |
| 07:11.02 | afabian | NoboruKun, one thing about free software is that in addition to picking technology, you're picking a community. On average, the Debian community has a clue, which is a really great asset. Try comparing the Debian mailing list to the Ubuntu mailing list, for instance. ;) |
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| 07:11.32 | NoboruKun | i dont like Ubuntu |
| 07:11.36 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You may be taking the wrong approach. Why are you creating unix accounts for users that don't login? |
| 07:11.37 | jm_ | login.access is not used by PAM modules |
| 07:11.43 | NoboruKun | i like the original flavor of debian release |
| 07:11.52 | Whistleboy | anyone know why KDE screensavers don't work? xscreensaver runs. |
| 07:12.12 | dos000 | what do you normally do to get me.yourdomainname.com point at your static ip from the isp ? the domain registrar i use does not have a nice web interface |
| 07:12.21 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Another alternative is to put !! at the front of /etc/shadow for those accounts not allowed to login.) |
| 07:12.22 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, if you are gonna do web-hosting service,would you install debian on your server ? |
| 07:12.25 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, we have a big network at school, which uses NIS and LDAP... |
| 07:12.36 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and it's kinda nice for all the students have accounts and mail addresses... =) |
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| 07:12.44 | Haukkari | karlpinc: but they shouldn't be able to log on some specific machines |
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| 07:12.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Sorry, the !! goes in the hashed password field) |
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| 07:13.36 | gpm | how do i search for a package by looking for packages that have a certain filename? |
| 07:13.42 | kino | why does debian have all services enabled by default.. freakin stupid |
| 07:13.43 | gpm | (without pdo) |
| 07:13.52 | liable | gpm: apt-file |
| 07:13.52 | dos000 | gpm, apt-file |
| 07:14.06 | gpm | apt-file search <filename>? |
| 07:14.08 | karlpinc | Haukkari: what I did is add a ldap attribute and then modify the ldap search string in whatever config file drives the (allow ldap to login). |
| 07:14.53 | karlpinc | Haukkari: NIS on the other hand is a big pain. |
| 07:14.58 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, the people who I want to have access are in a specific group... |
| 07:15.07 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and I think this should be relatively easy with PAM |
| 07:15.13 | dos000 | you can use apt-cache as well and do "apt-cache search -n" |
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| 07:15.49 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's some filter that drives nsswitch.... maybe. It's one of those ldap.conf files. Sorry I can't be more help. |
| 07:16.11 | afabian | NoboruKun, depends on what you mean. If I were purchasing a dedicated server, I'd probably use whatever they recommend, because it's what they have the most experience dealing with when necessary. If it were just me and a machine, with no other considerations, sure. Debian's stable distribution is well tested, has a nice, long lifespan, etc. |
| 07:16.35 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You can put the filter in pam for sure. But there's a generic place for one too. |
| 07:17.00 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, anything that works would be nice |
| 07:17.28 | NoboruKun | afabian, i see. |
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| 07:18.16 | karlpinc | So, where can I go to get more help on LVM2? I already wrote to linux-lvm@redhat.com and debian-user@lists.debian.org, and nobody here seems to be able to help. |
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| 07:19.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Lordy, I happen to know that you can also fake it by authenticating with radius and having a ldap filter in the radius server. (!) |
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| 07:19.59 | tuora | I cannot retieve for viewing 'mime encapsulated Web archive' files which i have saved from online. what can i do? |
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| 07:20.10 | Haukkari | karlpinc: /etc/security/access.conf |
| 07:20.13 | Haukkari | karlpinc: that's it |
| 07:20.22 | jm_ | which is documented in PAM docs |
| 07:20.32 | jm_ | then there's PAM require module written by some people |
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| 07:21.57 | karlpinc | tuora: Don't know what your problem is but I've used mimedecode before to get to mime encoded stuff. |
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| 07:22.17 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Yay! That sure sounds like the right way to do it. |
| 07:22.20 | sses | night all |
| 07:22.39 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah. Thanks for your help. =) |
| 07:22.51 | kino | how do you specify options for a source build? |
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| 07:23.01 | SexyKen | Hey guys - I'm tired of entering passwords everytime I want to connect to an SSH server -- what's the best method of authentication otherwise? |
| 07:23.09 | karlpinc | (Haukkari: Good thing you didn't listen to me!)a |
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| 07:23.43 | Haukkari | karlpinc: :D |
| 07:23.55 | tuora | karlpinc: is mimedecode a debian package? |
| 07:24.01 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-agent! |
| 07:24.03 | afabian | SexyKen, key-based authentication. man ssh ssh-agent ssh ssh-keygen |
| 07:24.05 | karlpinc | tuora: yes |
| 07:24.36 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-add |
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| 07:25.01 | muttix | i dont see any problems with sarge and this mainbard --> http://www.asrock.com/product/P4VM800.htm - maybe im wrong ? |
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| 07:25.30 | litage | is H323 or SIP more NAT- and network-friendly? |
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| 07:25.42 | Coke | muttix: the page you are referring to does not mention sarge at all. |
| 07:26.03 | kino | I want to build rxvt with pixmap support :( how?? |
| 07:26.19 | Coke | kino: download rxvt and read the INSTALL file |
| 07:26.24 | muttix | Coke, i know !..hehe... but i need to make 4.PC for some customer and want to use sarge |
| 07:26.57 | kino | Coke: is there a way to do this with debian? |
| 07:27.24 | karlpinc | One more question before I go. Is there anyplace out there on the net with gigabytes of randomness available for download? |
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| 07:27.39 | afabian | litage, SIP was more or less made because of the NAT problems with H323. |
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| 07:27.55 | Coke | muttix: why did you suggest that you could see, or not see, a problem by reading that page? |
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| 07:28.01 | rixth | I accidenally formatted some very important files, what can I use to recover them? |
| 07:28.10 | debboy | hi all. if i have a server at www.myguy.com what should be in /etc/hostname ? |
| 07:28.25 | muttix | Coke, sorry dude - misunderstanding |
| 07:28.27 | karlpinc | litage: AIX2 is very NAT/network friendly. However, it only works with asterisk so you need somebody to gateway to the PSTN. |
| 07:28.47 | Coke | kino: the sources are available via deb-src, I do not know if those sources contains support for pixmaps or if a patch is required. |
| 07:28.58 | afabian | karlpinc, if it's posted for download, it's lost most of it's quality as a source of randomness for most purposes, has it not? |
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| 07:29.24 | kino | should be builtin, but how do I build it with pixmap.. does debian pkg system provide build options |
| 07:29.28 | xchg | litage: SIP |
| 07:29.37 | karlpinc | afabian: Sure, but maybe somebody's got a cosmic ray detector running constantly... or something. |
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| 07:29.59 | xchg | liable: forget about H323. Several years ago i runned pure h323 voip network. It was a real headache to bypass client NATs |
| 07:30.14 | liable | ok.. |
| 07:30.17 | xchg | xchg: now we're on SIP, it works more or less |
| 07:30.22 | karlpinc | afabian: Trust is another matter. But I don't care all that much at the moment, it's kinda practice. |
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| 07:31.03 | benjamindees | rixth, you formatted a partition or deleted files? what filesystem type? |
| 07:31.38 | jm_ | muttix: as long as its SATA controller is supported |
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| 07:32.00 | liable | xchg: err, misfire? |
| 07:32.01 | muttix | jm_ im worried about the unichrome vga |
| 07:32.01 | jm_ | kino: you can modify it in debian/rules |
| 07:32.11 | xchg | liable: yah :-) |
| 07:32.22 | liable | :) |
| 07:32.27 | TBBle | Goodness, evolution takes time to build. I swear I just caught it doing the same thing for the fourth time. |
| 07:32.29 | xchg | liable: also there're several issues with IAX, it works also, but far not so used as SIP |
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| 07:32.42 | Coke | TBBle: bloatware is like that |
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| 07:32.57 | liable | xchg: again! |
| 07:33.18 | xchg | liable: damn autocompletion, going to switch it off. sorry pal :-) |
| 07:33.28 | liable | xchg: no problem :) |
| 07:33.56 | liable | xchg: we all have bad nick tab days :) |
| 07:34.21 | jm_ | muttix: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:34.28 | Beleys | Poy |
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| 07:34.56 | xchg | liable: sure. in several cases it's faster to type the nick than switching them with tab :-) |
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| 07:35.20 | muttix | jm_ that means kernel compile right ?... i need to deliver 4.PC's friday morning :-/ |
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| 07:36.42 | Coke | muttix: looks to me like they provide X drivers, not kernel |
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| 07:37.30 | litage | thanks afabian, karlpinc and xchg |
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| 07:38.10 | xchg | litage: feel free to ask about iptel (rather msg), i'm working with it for 5 years now |
| 07:38.15 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:38.23 | benjamindees | I'd appreciate any comments anyone might have on this: http://www.deesconsulting.com/howtos/wine-kprinter.txt |
| 07:38.25 | Coke | xchg: really, me too? |
| 07:38.25 | jm_ | muttix: no, and it turns out XFree86 in Sarge does have via_drv, but it's questionable if it's new enough to handle your version |
| 07:38.52 | muttix | damn...hmm - what to do :-/ |
| 07:38.56 | jm_ | muttix: it might be oainful to build this as it requires X sources ;) |
| 07:38.57 | muttix | thanks guys ! |
| 07:39.14 | Coke | xchg: do you know of a good, free ip stack that is near complete or complete? |
| 07:39.28 | xchg | Coke: great! however, i decided to leave this business, too unreliable to make serious competition to PSTN right now, due nature of internet IMHO |
| 07:39.45 | xchg | Coke: ip stack or voip stack ? |
| 07:39.48 | Coke | xchg: it's rather popular here. |
| 07:40.06 | Coke | xchg: sip stack, sorry. :) |
| 07:40.17 | Coke | xchg: SIP, not IP. :) my mistake. |
| 07:40.28 | xchg | Coke: i'm using SER here, quite hard to learn it syntax, but very fast and reliable at my oppinion |
| 07:40.34 | xchg | Coke: absolutely freeware |
| 07:40.35 | Coke | xchg: free? |
| 07:40.40 | xchg | Coke: GPL |
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| 07:41.13 | Coke | xchg: I'll look at it, thanks! |
| 07:41.36 | xchg | Coke: you're welcome |
| 07:41.47 | kino | jm_: ahh debian/rules, thanks |
| 07:41.49 | xchg | Coke: also there's a so-so affordable SIP implementation in Asterisk |
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| 07:42.02 | kino | turns out rxvt comes with a separate binary rxvt-xpm! you can use for background |
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| 07:50.08 | xchg | heh, when new message arrives in xchat, the button in taskbar of XFCE is starting to blink. Like in the windows. (imho disgusting) :-) Is there any relationship between blinking and GNOME/HIG ? |
| 07:50.16 | xchg | going to switch this feature off somehow |
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| 07:51.16 | gpm | any reason the xdm in sid has no init.d script? |
| 07:51.59 | Gnea | gpm: it's not installed |
| 07:52.39 | Coke | xchg: I need it to be free (as in freedom) since the plan is to build a SIP-gateway for Jabber. |
| 07:52.42 | gpm | Gnea: it is though |
| 07:52.56 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg -L xdm |
| 07:53.03 | lindenle | see if it is in the package |
| 07:53.31 | lindenle | dpkg -L xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.31 | dpkg | No packages found matching xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.33 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, there's a bunch of files...none of them in /etc/init.d |
| 07:53.50 | xchg | Coke: i think you should take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/ |
| 07:54.07 | lindenle | gpm : you could download and extract the contents to make sure |
| 07:54.08 | Coke | xchg: did you know that SER includes a XMPP interface? :) |
| 07:54.14 | xchg | Coke: since there're a several *stack* implementation. SER is rather complete gateway/proxy product |
| 07:54.19 | lindenle | gpm: did you check the bug reports for xdm |
| 07:54.28 | xchg | Coke: nope |
| 07:54.35 | xchg | Coke: i mean it doesn't |
| 07:55.07 | xchg | Coke: SER is IPTEL carrier-grade product, dedicated to deal with signalling proxing |
| 07:55.21 | lindenle | gpm: apt-get -d --reinstall install xdm |
| 07:55.28 | xchg | xchg: but you always can write a xmpp module for it :-) |
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| 07:55.32 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg --extract xdm*.deb |
| 07:55.42 | gpm | lindenle: bts doesn't have anything. |
| 07:55.48 | gpm | lindenle: i'll try out the manual install |
| 07:55.56 | Coke | xchg: it does provide a Jabber gateway though. |
| 07:55.57 | mo1991 | can anyone tell me a program that can make a mutliple page tiff out of a mutlipage document being scanned. |
| 07:56.09 | khermans | Anyone know the generic arguments to ./configure to build a static binary with all libs inclusive? I need this for a shared web server |
| 07:56.11 | Coke | xchg: http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/jabgw/xjab-manual.html |
| 07:56.18 | lindenle | gpm: it id probably broken, seems like you know what you are doing |
| 07:56.20 | mo1991 | To make a tif file that opens like a FAX doc |
| 07:56.35 | lindenle | gpm: i can add it to my sarge and see to, but most likely you need to file a bug report |
| 07:56.45 | gpm | lindenle: i appreciate your faith. :-P |
| 07:57.00 | xchg | Coke: hm, then it's alredy wrote... didn't knew even |
| 07:57.01 | lindenle | ;) |
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| 07:57.45 | lindenle | gpm: what version do you have installed |
| 07:57.58 | lindenle | the init.d part is listed in etch |
| 07:58.02 | lindenle | looking at sarge now |
| 07:58.08 | fireba11 | hi .. i got a server here that all of a sudden lost its network .. ifconfig gives no output at all .. changed NIC, no change, put HD into another bnox, no change .. any clues ? |
| 07:58.11 | gpm | 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 |
| 07:58.16 | Coke | xchg: that sucks. what am I suposed to do now when my job contract ends? :) |
| 07:58.40 | Coke | xchg: btw, iptel.org is pretty awesome. |
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| 07:59.06 | Coke | xchg: do you know why SER is not available in Debian? |
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| 07:59.30 | lindenle | gpm: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 ?? I found 4.3.0.dsfg.1-14sarge1 |
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| 07:59.41 | lindenle | gpm: do you have some external source? |
| 07:59.43 | gpm | lindenle: i'm on xorg, you're on xfree86 |
| 07:59.47 | gpm | lindenle: sid has xorg |
| 07:59.52 | gpm | lindenle: made the switch |
| 07:59.59 | xchg | Coke: have no idea. btw it WAS available |
| 08:00.09 | lindenle | gpm: right of cource, lappy is on etch xorg |
| 08:00.16 | lindenle | but server is on sarge xfree |
| 08:00.21 | lindenle | gpm: dumb me |
| 08:00.32 | xchg | Coke: in any way it's better to compile you own ser, on my memory ser shipped with debian leaked some modules and was pretty old |
| 08:00.58 | lindenle | gpm: I had to onlappy but server has no need |
| 08:01.10 | lindenle | gpm: ati->xorg nvidia->rocks |
| 08:01.13 | lindenle | :) |
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| 08:01.38 | gpm | i ought to use etch |
| 08:01.48 | gpm | but i like reporting bugs too i guess |
| 08:01.49 | lindenle | yeah...maybe |
| 08:01.55 | lindenle | some things are a bit flaky |
| 08:01.56 | Coke | xchg: I can't find it at all. Would be nice to have it setup nicely by Debian though. |
| 08:02.05 | lindenle | gpm: :) i hear that |
| 08:02.08 | xchg | Coke: what to start after contract end? i'll give you an advice :-) Ser is very complicated ware. I'm thought on getting it more user-friendly. Writing frontend for configuring it for example. Take a look at ser.cfg to understand what i'm speaking about. It's more similar to C source code that to config file |
| 08:02.36 | xchg | Coke: so why don't you write something to make a SER users life more easy :-) |
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| 08:03.18 | Coke | xchg: C-code isn't a problem for me. |
| 08:03.20 | fireba11 | anyone got a clue about my network problem ? it's kinda urgent |
| 08:03.30 | Coke | xchg: I don't need/want to make their lives easier? |
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| 08:04.16 | Coke | xchg: what I really want is VoIP support for Jabber clients. And I don't want to use Google's Jingle or some other BS, I want the real deal = SIP. |
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| 08:04.23 | xchg | Coke: i mean it just looks like it, the hidden logic acts differently. If you company will like ser and will pay you to writing config frontend then why not? But in anyway it's none of my business, i just gave an advice |
| 08:04.26 | dbi | fireba11: ask your question. if anyone can help (s)he will |
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| 08:04.35 | lindenle | fireball: does lspci still show card? Is module loaded |
| 08:05.02 | dbi | fireba11: sorry, you already asked it. |
| 08:05.12 | Coke | xchg: "my company" is a university and my contract ends with them in february. this is my own, private project, something to do while being unemployed. |
| 08:05.38 | lindenle | gpm: i think it is a bug..... |
| 08:05.41 | xchg | Coke: got it |
| 08:06.25 | fooz | there any good programmer's editors that emacs users can cope with? |
| 08:06.29 | Coke | xchg: the configuration looks a lot like exim or postgresql-configs since they describe some logic too. |
| 08:06.37 | Coke | fooz: "cope"? |
| 08:06.40 | fooz | yeah |
| 08:06.41 | lindenle | gpm: that looks like the newest xdm anyway, i think |
| 08:06.57 | fooz | like, an emacs user probably can't cope with Microsoft Visual Studio or any clones of that |
| 08:07.17 | Coke | fooz: coop [1913 Websters] To form a cope or arch; to bend or arch; to bow |
| 08:07.28 | Coke | fooz: emacs does not bend for anyone. :) |
| 08:07.32 | xchg | Coke: it's a very robust approach to configuring, since you can describe any SIP logic in config. Even if you want to deploy a non standart approaches, like H323/SIP conversion via external stuff, billing, or NAT traversal |
| 08:07.35 | fireba11 | can someone please tell me what is wrong if network is gone .. ifconfig doesn#t even output loopback device |
| 08:07.39 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, i'm reporting right now |
| 08:07.44 | gpm | making sure i'm not reporting a dupe |
| 08:07.46 | xchg | Coke: but the most users stuck on it :-) |
| 08:07.59 | lindenle | gpm: nice work |
| 08:08.08 | Coke | fooz: the best choice for an emacs user is most likely emacs. if they must I guess they could probably use vim. |
| 08:08.22 | lindenle | fireball: did you change kernel? |
| 08:08.31 | Jakal | fireba11: ifup eth0 try :p (if your using NIC) |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | lindenle: no, no change at all |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | Jakal: treid that .. gives an error |
| 08:08.58 | lindenle | fireball: or edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:08.59 | Jakal | fireba11: what error? |
| 08:09.01 | lindenle | fireball: which is? |
| 08:09.01 | fireba11 | lindenle: interfaces is looking fine |
| 08:09.06 | Coke | fooz: I'm not a hardcore emacs user, I have vim as my second choice if emacs is unavailable for some inexplicable reason. |
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| 08:09.31 | Coke | xchg: I probably will too, but not because the syntax is tough, but because I don't understand SIP that much. I'm hoping the tutorial will change that. |
| 08:09.37 | Coke | xchg: did you work for iptel org? |
| 08:10.05 | xchg | Coke: no, i have the own company in Europe. I'm just using their product |
| 08:10.29 | xchg | Coke: there're several tutorials about SIP on the net, you can google for them |
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| 08:10.38 | lindenle | fireball: can you ifup lo? |
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| 08:10.43 | xchg | Coke: "sip ser example" on my memory |
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| 08:11.29 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:11.35 | liable | any opions on dvd-backup? |
| 08:11.47 | mo1991 | what is the command line command to switch workstations (meaning screens on 1 x session - not ctrF8) etc |
| 08:11.54 | jm_ | liable: I use dobackup.pl and growisofs :) |
| 08:11.55 | Coke | xchg: no problem, iptel provides tutorials as well. |
| 08:12.07 | jm_ | mo1991: ehh? |
| 08:12.14 | mo1991 | meaning when I have a 4 desktop switcher in my menu bar |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | jm_ does this make sense |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | ? |
| 08:12.28 | jm_ | mo1991: not to me, sorry |
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| 08:12.33 | lindenle | mo1991: depends on window manager |
| 08:12.36 | Blackhold | hi! |
| 08:12.37 | mo1991 | i use gnome |
| 08:12.55 | lindenle | mo1991: i use kde and it is set to ctrl-alt-left |
| 08:13.00 | lindenle | or ctrl-alt-right |
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| 08:13.02 | mo1991 | gnome lets you have a workspace switcher on your start menu that you can have a fresh desktop background |
| 08:13.06 | jm_ | ahh you want to switch to a different GNOME desktop with comamnd line tool? |
| 08:13.09 | Coke | xchg: a lot of people are switching to SIP and voip here in Sweden because it's very cheap to build infrastructure for it compared to the other, trademark technologies. |
| 08:13.19 | lindenle | i think gnome might use alt-F1 alt-F2 etc |
| 08:13.31 | lindenle | oh i missed command line sorry |
| 08:13.39 | mo1991 | lindenle - it's the same for gnome - I'm looking to add it to a script though |
| 08:13.44 | liable | jm_: whats that perl script in? |
| 08:13.45 | mo1991 | need a command line command to do it |
| 08:13.54 | lindenle | right :( sorry |
| 08:14.00 | mo1991 | anyone know |
| 08:14.09 | jm_ | liable: not in Debian, I have it in /usr/local (you can find it on freshmeat) - I guess it deserves to be packaged |
| 08:14.12 | Blackhold | I have configured the xwindow through editing the XF86config, I've putted 1024x768, but now the x are descentred, I couldn't configure the screen to center the image, the VGA that I have is a VGA P4M800, a integrated VGA into a asrock motherboard, P4VM8 (I think so) |
| 08:14.19 | jm_ | mo1991: you can always do it with tools like xnee |
| 08:14.19 | liable | jm_: ok, cheers |
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| 08:15.03 | xchg | Coke: unfotently due nature of the internet voip communications aren't reliable to comparsion with POTS, and it's hardly possible to describe to angry customer that his voip box isn't working becose his damned ISP messed something up, or there's loop-routing somewhere at (for example) TISCALI backbone, and it's not our fscked fault :-) |
| 08:15.03 | jm_ | xnee or xte from xautomation package |
| 08:15.32 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:15.45 | jm_ | with aptitude or apt-get ... |
| 08:15.57 | jm_ | so yes, someone knows |
| 08:15.58 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl |
| 08:15.59 | Coke | xchg: but I agree with you that SER needs another configuration interface. I think it would have been better of using a Python or Scheme-like syntax. |
| 08:16.18 | xchg | Coke: i've thought about M4 macro processing |
| 08:16.21 | Zugschlus | deadcat: what should be fixed in exim? |
| 08:16.21 | Kimy | thankiu lindenle :) |
| 08:16.33 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl8.0-dev i guess |
| 08:16.33 | Coke | xchg: "nature of internet" is fine. internet for me is as reliable as the old tele net. |
| 08:16.33 | diana | Kimy: As root type "apt-get install tclx8.4 |
| 08:16.40 | lindenle | if you want to compile something |
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| 08:16.43 | jm_ | he needs TCL devel packages |
| 08:16.50 | jm_ | and eggdrop is packaged too |
| 08:16.56 | lindenle | Jim_: right |
| 08:16.57 | Coke | xchg: I think going with an s-expression syntax would be most beneficial |
| 08:17.09 | Zugschlus | dos000: use some combination of exigrep or exipick with xargs exim -Mrm |
| 08:17.15 | Kimy | thankiu diana :) |
| 08:17.17 | Kimy | it worked |
| 08:17.20 | xchg | Coke: since, let's agree with it, you can do virtually anything with it config, but there're more or less standart features that ITSP expects, like less-cost-routing, voicemail, etc.. and they can be deployed as simple macros the administrator just choice from |
| 08:17.26 | fireba11 | lindenle: sorry, can't reproduce right now since i took out the disk .. thought there might be a quick fix to this |
| 08:17.33 | Zugschlus | buu: ext3 |
| 08:17.34 | diana | Kimy: jm_ is right..you also need developer packages. |
| 08:17.36 | Blackhold | how I configure the vga?! |
| 08:17.39 | diana | Since you are compiling the eggdrop. |
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| 08:17.59 | Kimy | diana that means? Hmm i'm kind of noob in linux :/ |
| 08:17.59 | diana | Kimy: apt-get install tcl8.4-dev |
| 08:18.05 | lindenle | fireball: so working again? |
| 08:18.18 | Kimy | works too :) |
| 08:18.21 | Zugschlus | Gnea: grml can do lvm2 and is much better than knoppix anyway |
| 08:18.29 | fireba11 | lindenle: no .. took out the HD to rescue the data since it's important |
| 08:18.34 | diana | Kimy: now compile your eggdrop. |
| 08:18.40 | lindenle | fireball: claro |
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| 08:18.59 | Coke | xchg: s-expressions! :) |
| 08:18.59 | diana | Kimy: Instead of compiling your eggdrop...you could just "apt-get install eggdrop" and you are done. |
| 08:19.02 | xchg | Coke: so there's no need to get a 500+ page SER manual to understand the working logic and deploy a voicmail system (took 2 days for me), user just can choice a needed macro and recompile the config file :-) |
| 08:19.12 | Kimy | hmm :) |
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| 08:19.16 | Kimy | diana thx |
| 08:19.17 | lindenle | fireball: this is very curious, i would like to see what lspci gives, maybe your oci bus is acting up...but all conjectures |
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| 08:19.43 | bunga | hi where some site to get last repositories for woody 3.0 |
| 08:19.52 | Coke | xchg: he, very powerful. |
| 08:19.56 | Blackhold | please some help |
| 08:19.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: any full Debian mirror has it |
| 08:19.58 | sep | bunga, in all mirrors |
| 08:20.08 | lindenle | bunga: old-stable or woody |
| 08:20.08 | diana | dondelelcaro: What mode is J? |
| 08:20.14 | dondelelcaro | !tell diana -about fn modes |
| 08:20.14 | diana | What is this weird ircd |
| 08:20.17 | jm_ | bunga: you can find old releases on archive.debian.org |
| 08:20.22 | bunga | dondelelcaro the site pls |
| 08:20.29 | xchg | Coke: btw, it rather looks like sendmail.cf :-) and acts like it too :-) |
| 08:20.31 | bunga | woody 3.0 |
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| 08:20.42 | dondelelcaro | bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
| 08:20.53 | crashbg[work] | gyis, i have sarge and mysql4, and mysql4 doesn't support cp1251??? how can i add support for this charset |
| 08:21.05 | bunga | btw hos to see my version |
| 08:21.07 | bunga | how |
| 08:21.20 | jm_ | bunga: /msg dpkg debian version |
| 08:21.22 | dondelelcaro | bunga: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.31 | Guerin | !what am I running? |
| 08:21.31 | dpkg | What? You don't know what branch of what OS you're running? To find out, compare the output of dpkg -l libc6; cat /etc/debian_version; apt-cache policy; with known versions, such as are to be found on packages.debian.org. |
| 08:21.38 | bunga | n# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.40 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:21.47 | xchg | crashbg[work]: http://www.opennet.ru/base/dev/rus_locale_mysql.txt.html AFAIK |
| 08:21.51 | bunga | that how to get the latest repos for that |
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| 08:22.03 | Guerin | bunga: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 08:22.20 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ <== add this to /etc/apt/sources.list ?? |
| 08:22.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: no. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 08:23.16 | bunga | i wanna upgrade my server to latest release of woody |
| 08:23.33 | bunga | mean all package |
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| 08:23.43 | diana | bunga: You are using potato? |
| 08:23.50 | dondelelcaro | bunga: so run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;. |
| 08:24.00 | bunga | yeah dondelelcaro like that |
| 08:24.13 | sep | bunga, read the woody release notes |
| 08:24.15 | bunga | but first i wanna get sources.list first |
| 08:24.24 | sep | !tell bunga about potato->woody |
| 08:24.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: you should already have your sources.list set right. If not, run apt-setup, and make sure it's set to woody, not stable. |
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| 08:25.38 | nrdb | How do you rename a Flash drive under KDE? |
| 08:25.42 | Coke | xchg: I'm telling you, build a config using already existing Scheme implementations, or write your own. S-expressions are the simplest to do very concrete operating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression |
| 08:25.54 | Coke | xchg: Or, when I'm good enough with SER I will do it! ;) |
| 08:25.55 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: you should already have your <== i'm del last night |
| 08:25.59 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.01 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.18 | xchg | Coke: i don't know much about s-expr, will check it now |
| 08:26.27 | xchg | Coke: anyway, have a lot of time today :-) |
| 08:26.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: then run apt-setup to configur eit. |
| 08:26.50 | diana | bunga: What version of debian are you using...what do you see when you cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:26.58 | Gnea | oh wow. |
| 08:27.02 | dondelelcaro | diana: see scrollback; we did that one already... |
| 08:27.12 | Gnea | the latest E17 made several jumps |
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| 08:27.29 | lindenle | diana: I think he is using some bunk packages from back ports.org or something |
| 08:27.36 | Gnea | nearly all configuration options are now point and click |
| 08:27.37 | blueSmurf | hi |
| 08:27.38 | xchg | Coke: argh, it say these're Lisp-natured |
| 08:27.41 | bunga | i'm use this version |
| 08:27.42 | lindenle | diana: maybe the sources.list file should be checked |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:27.45 | xchg | hi blueSmurf |
| 08:27.58 | diana | !tell bunga about woody->sarge |
| 08:28.04 | jm_ | lindenle: Bunk provided packages required to run 2.6 kernel on Woody, there were only a few |
| 08:28.23 | diana | bunga: If you hosed your sources.list type "apt-setup" like dondelelcaro told you to. |
| 08:28.27 | lindenle | jm_: oh sorry |
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| 08:29.33 | bunga | # apt-setup |
| 08:29.34 | bunga | bash: apt-setup: command not found |
| 08:29.49 | rAz_ | ouch |
| 08:29.50 | jm_ | !tell bunga -about installit |
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| 08:30.40 | diana | bunga: What country do you live in? |
| 08:30.50 | diana | bunga: Or what country does your server live in? |
| 08:30.51 | bunga | uk |
| 08:30.59 | bunga | switzerland |
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| 08:31.05 | Marsian | What needs to be installed for the gdm to boot? |
| 08:31.07 | blueSmurf | ukrainia ? |
| 08:31.13 | bunga | nono |
| 08:31.14 | bunga | switzerland |
| 08:31.15 | Marsian | I can't seem to get it working on my laptop. |
| 08:31.29 | jm_ | Marsian: aptitude/apt-get will install all of its dependencies ... |
| 08:31.34 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: isnt Ukrainia a city in russia? |
| 08:31.42 | Marsian | jm_: Well, it won't boot. |
| 08:31.43 | bbmj | i had upgraded to the 2.6 kernel about 6 months ago. i resently went back to the 2.4 kernel. when upgrading to 2.6 i had to remove some libs and install others to get the cdburner to work but have forgotten which ones. can someone tell me a way or method to use in order to get things working again? |
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| 08:31.52 | jm_ | Marsian: I don't believe that |
| 08:31.57 | blueSmurf | raf256, beats me, I flunked geography :) |
| 08:31.59 | Marsian | jm_: Just comes up with a blank screen. |
| 08:32.04 | Marsian | Not sure what the problem is. |
| 08:32.09 | jm_ | bbmj: the same method will work with both kernels |
| 08:32.10 | bunga | diana ? |
| 08:32.14 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: anyway, russian, iraq, ukraina - same thing, lets bomb them! |
| 08:32.26 | jm_ | Marsian: right, so it boots but screen is not OK - does kernel still work at that point? |
| 08:32.47 | Marsian | No. |
| 08:32.53 | bbmj | jm_, are you saying it should work either way? |
| 08:32.56 | jm_ | how do you know? |
| 08:32.58 | jm_ | bbmj: right |
| 08:33.02 | Marsian | Or at least I can't switch to any of the virtual terminals. |
| 08:33.03 | blueSmurf | Marsian, can you run it manually ? (with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) |
| 08:33.13 | jm_ | that doesn't mean the kernel is not running |
| 08:33.18 | Marsian | blueSmurf: Tried that, but it goes to the blank screen. |
| 08:33.36 | blueSmurf | Marsian, and X is working , yes ? |
| 08:34.09 | Marsian | Does x.org use the "startx" command? |
| 08:34.30 | xchg | Marsian: it does |
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| 08:34.53 | Marsian | Well, for some reason I don't have that command. |
| 08:35.03 | Marsian | Does that mean I should re-install x.org? |
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| 08:35.11 | tapas | hi |
| 08:35.24 | Marsian | I installed xserver-xorg (and its dependencies). |
| 08:35.40 | tapas | i wonder how i can enable the option APT::Force-LoopBreak |
| 08:35.53 | raf256 | echo "Suck my cock" | festival --tts |
| 08:36.02 | raf256 | omg! |
| 08:36.06 | raf256 | wrong channel |
| 08:36.09 | jm_ | install x-window-system-core or without -core to get more of it |
| 08:36.13 | tapas | ;) |
| 08:36.14 | raf256 | !smite me |
| 08:36.21 | Marsian | jm_: I did that too |
| 08:36.34 | Marsian | Should I just try re-installing it? |
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| 08:36.47 | tapas | i installed from an olde testing cd and now i try to upgrade to unstable |
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| 08:37.08 | bbmj | jm_, here is the main portion of debug /usr/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. but charater devices /dev/sg0 through 16 are present. |
| 08:37.12 | Marsian | Oh yeah, I am using unstable if that matters. |
| 08:37.29 | tapas | which tells me about the need to remove the essential package e2fsprogs |
| 08:37.33 | bbmj | jm_, yes scsi emulation is turned on. |
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| 08:37.41 | jm_ | bbmj: don't use it |
| 08:37.48 | tapas | so i wonder how i can make apt-get use tat optoin |
| 08:37.52 | i2501 | i cant browse to http://192.168.11.1/ to forward some ports....i can do this in winxp...how to do it in debian? |
| 08:37.55 | bbmj | jm_, on the 2.4? |
| 08:38.02 | tapas | cause the manpage doesn't tell me anything about it |
| 08:38.07 | jm_ | bbmj: right, it works without it on 2.4 too |
| 08:38.07 | ootput | not atapi |
| 08:38.11 | tarzeau | GOD FUCKINNG DAMN USB BULLSHIT |
| 08:38.15 | jm_ | Marsian: install xbase-clients |
| 08:38.18 | tarzeau | what's this? usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=8 (error=-71) |
| 08:38.20 | Coke | xchg: you can ignore that Lisp too utilizes the efficiency of S-Expressions. the really neet thing is that it's very easy to parse and generate working (and well-written) s-expressions. it is also very easy to write editor indentation support for it. basically, anything that requires analyzing is easy with them. |
| 08:38.23 | ootput | how are you, tarzeau? |
| 08:38.35 | Marsian | jm_: Thank you I will try that. |
| 08:38.41 | Marsian | be back in a few if it doesn't work |
| 08:38.42 | bbmj | thought it was required... this is exactly how it used to work but i'll try it. |
| 08:38.46 | jm_ | bbmj: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdX or cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 08:38.49 | tarzeau | ootput: good apart from users wawnting to use crap floppy drives, shit usb, and shit zip drivers |
| 08:38.52 | jm_ | no it's not required |
| 08:38.58 | tarzeau | ootput: and fucking cd-rom drives, and scanners |
| 08:39.09 | tarzeau | ootput: they fucking have 100mbit internet and they want to use floppy! |
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| 08:39.34 | ootput | assholes probably want to boot from floppy |
| 08:39.35 | xchg | Coke: in fact, on my oppinion it would be the best to make ser packages for debian utilizing it package configuration ability. |
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| 08:39.57 | Guerin | floppy drives should be forcibly removed from all machines |
| 08:40.09 | mhall | Guerin: ? |
| 08:40.11 | xchg | Coke: just like with X, debconf is asking questions and generates xorg.conf(XF86Config) at end |
| 08:40.13 | tarzeau | ootput: no they just want to make backups, albeit WE make already backups! |
| 08:40.26 | jm_ | heh some of the machines we're buying here come without floppies these days, of course the other components in them are crap too |
| 08:40.30 | mhall | tarzeau: don't get me started on backups |
| 08:40.31 | ootput | and yes, they should |
| 08:40.33 | tarzeau | ootput: booting is disabled for all media, and if they do, there's someone at the machine telling them to not do that |
| 08:40.37 | jm_ | without floppy drives I mean |
| 08:40.38 | fireba11 | Guerin please force microsoft to accept anything else then floppy for storage driver at install then ^^ |
| 08:40.48 | jm_ | fireba11: CD ... |
| 08:40.59 | ootput | fireba11: that F6 bullshit pisses me off to no end |
| 08:40.59 | mhall | tarzeau: my .edu fucked up and let their mail server get full, so they deleted our trash folders and our sent items older than 100 days without asking |
| 08:41.06 | Guerin | fireba11: you choose to use microsoft, it's your funeral |
| 08:41.24 | tarzeau | mhall: we never do things like that |
| 08:41.29 | tarzeau | mhall: which .edu? |
| 08:41.34 | fireba11 | Guerin: i have to .. for workstations at work at least |
| 08:41.35 | ootput | of course, there's always a slipstream+unattended, but how troublesome is that? |
| 08:41.37 | mhall | tarzeau: i sent them an extremely unhappy message explaining that i'd relied on their statements about their mail service and their backups to preserve some legally important stuff |
| 08:41.41 | Guerin | fireba11: sucks to be you. |
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| 08:42.07 | themusicgod1 | is it a bad thing that the new version of folding@home does not display on top? |
| 08:42.17 | mhall | tarzeau: if they don't restore it i'll have to bust a bureaucratic cap on their ass so bigg that they'll talk with their anal sphincters when i'm done |
| 08:42.19 | tarzeau | mhall: sounds like bad suckage |
| 08:42.22 | mhall | tarzeau: univ. of the pacific |
| 08:42.30 | tarzeau | go go go mhall! |
| 08:42.33 | fireba11 | Guerin: correct, since an important system died on me yesterday and i have to get it working again asap |
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| 08:43.12 | mhall | Guerin: my university will need a saint to resurrect them if they don't fix this |
| 08:43.23 | themusicgod1 | scratch that there it is |
| 08:43.31 | themusicgod1 | weiiird i could have sworn it wasn't there for a second |
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| 08:43.35 | Guerin | mhall: saints can't resurrect. |
| 08:43.41 | Coke | xchg: but that's the even higher level, sure, it's good. debconf could generate the s-expressions. but s-expressions need no syntax analisys, just lexical parsing. |
| 08:43.48 | Guerin | mhall: they can do a pretty good Last Rites though |
| 08:44.10 | Coke | xchg: nevermind. :) I have to do some work and then I'm going to read the slides from iptel.org |
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| 08:44.36 | mhall | Guerin: thought they had to perform one miracle to be a saint |
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| 08:45.09 | mhall | Coke: what about lisp, where you work with raw parse trees? |
| 08:45.11 | Guerin | mhall: yeah, but none have ever resurrected anyone |
| 08:45.17 | Guerin | i mean |
| 08:45.22 | mhall | Guerin: nor have they done any of the rest ;-) |
| 08:45.28 | Guerin | that's why jesus is like the #1 saint |
| 08:46.05 | ootput | ligara |
| 08:46.16 | mhall | well then if they screw me they'll be needing help from the most improbable of the improbable |
| 08:46.28 | mhall | good fucking luck i wish them |
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| 08:46.42 | mhall | they'll all be fcuked when i'm done |
| 08:46.49 | mhall | french connection will make millions |
| 08:46.52 | ootput | french connection? |
| 08:46.55 | ootput | brr |
| 08:47.04 | liable | cold? |
| 08:47.08 | ootput | rabbit |
| 08:48.17 | Coke | mhall: yeah, what about it? |
| 08:48.54 | Coke | mhall: the current configuration file uses an imperative paradigm, I suggested using an s-expression instead. |
| 08:48.54 | mhall | Coke: it was primarily a language troll |
| 08:49.07 | mhall | Coke: since i had no idea what you were talking about ;-) |
| 08:49.25 | mhall | configuration files are scary |
| 08:49.37 | Coke | mhall: aha. we're not really talking languages, just paradigms. it's so much easier and simpler to use s-expressions over imperative syntax. |
| 08:49.45 | mhall | i wish people took them half as seriously as data or code |
| 08:50.07 | mhall | to tell you the truth my impression of them is corrupted |
| 08:50.29 | mhall | by the fact that i haven't seen any that used some kind of theoretically reasonable programming paradigm at all |
| 08:50.47 | mhall | which is not to say such is not existant |
| 08:51.02 | mhall | merely that i wasn't conscious of it when i saw it or it's not around yet |
| 08:51.23 | caphuso | mhall: ~/.emacs |
| 08:51.26 | mhall | as far as i can tell the best sort of config file would use xml with obvious short tags |
| 08:51.33 | caphuso | you're insane |
| 08:51.35 | Coke | mhall: no. |
| 08:51.50 | Coke | mhall: XML is overly complicated to describe data structures and logic. |
| 08:51.53 | mhall | caphuso: that's been said and reiterated and i won't dispute it |
| 08:52.02 | mhall | Coke: i don't think so |
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| 08:52.10 | mhall | Coke: i think people overcomplicate it |
| 08:52.11 | caphuso | no config file should ever use xml, for it being stupid, useless, cumbersome and without any benefit at all |
| 08:52.28 | Coke | mhall: what you think is irrelevant, I _know_ that it takes more effort to both read and write XML than it does to read and write s-expressions or YAML. |
| 08:52.36 | mhall | not for me |
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| 08:52.43 | Coke | mhall: then you do not work as normal humans. |
| 08:53.16 | Coke | mhall: like caphuso says, there are no benefits of using XML over other types of expressions. |
| 08:53.44 | Coke | take a look at YAML |
| 08:53.56 | mhall | i think this is a canonical example of an issue with no good answer |
| 08:54.04 | zinx | OMG XML SOAP AJAX LOLZ |
| 08:54.13 | mhall | if there were one so far, we'd just be using it and not arguing about the different ones |
| 08:54.33 | Coke | mhall: until you, or anybody, provides me with a good explanation why XML is necesseary I will consider it a bad choice for configuration files. |
| 08:54.49 | mhall | but in any case i can't see how s-expressions are sufficient for representing everything a config file might need |
| 08:54.54 | zinx | i would like to note here, that reguardless of whether XML is good for configuration files, fontconfig's xml configuration file is entirely wrong :) |
| 08:54.55 | dondelelcaro | xml is just a reasonably standard method of creating machine parseable files; it's craptacular for human editable configuration files |
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| 08:55.15 | mhall | it seems like perhaps you will need more than just data in some kinds of file |
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| 08:55.32 | Coke | mhall: Then I don't think you understand how what they represent. |
| 08:55.33 | mhall | perhaps a better choice would be something like lua |
| 08:55.44 | zinx | ugh, 1-indexed languages |
| 08:56.09 | Coke | mhall: S-Expressions are not merely data, they also describe things like logic and presedence. |
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| 08:56.32 | mhall | Coke: what about if you need something like a closure, some kind of user defined action to take |
| 08:56.43 | mhall | it's not clear how an s expression would deal with that |
| 08:56.57 | mhall | it could reference some other data file perhaps |
| 08:57.08 | mhall | but then that file would need some more turing complete entity |
| 08:57.24 | mhall | such as what's provided today by shell scripts |
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| 08:57.34 | Guerin | sorry ... does anyone actually think XML is good for config files? |
| 08:57.37 | mhall | but i always thought shell script callbacks, etc. were a hack |
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| 08:57.52 | mhall | Guerin: i'm not sure it's the best thing but i think it could work |
| 08:57.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expression have nothing to do with a language being turing complete or not. |
| 08:58.02 | Guerin | i thought the only people who used it were those who wanted to make life easier for the program, not the user |
| 08:58.12 | Guerin | mhall: you're just plain wrong. |
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| 08:58.13 | Coke | Guerin: indeed you are correct. |
| 08:58.16 | EdLin | mhall: you could do like emacs and have a LISP interpreter built into your s-expression parser. :-) |
| 08:58.20 | mhall | people write stuff in HTML often |
| 08:58.29 | Toshi | hello @ all |
| 08:58.33 | jm_ | Guerin: XML is a nightmare to parse, hardly easier for the program |
| 08:58.33 | mhall | EdLin: yes this could be done |
| 08:58.45 | Coke | The _only_ reason anybody would use XML is to utilize the vast number of parsers and data type verifiers (DTD and/or schemas) |
| 08:58.47 | mhall | EdLin: but LISP is harder to use than shell scripts |
| 08:58.51 | dondelelcaro | jm_: possibly, but that problem has largely been solved. |
| 08:58.58 | Coke | It is a choice by the programmer for his convenience, not the end users. |
| 08:59.08 | mhall | i don't believe that's true |
| 08:59.09 | Coke | mhall: for what? |
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| 08:59.13 | dondelelcaro | jm_: unless you're into reinventing wheels for some reason |
| 08:59.14 | Toshi | i got a little problem |
| 08:59.15 | Toshi | apt-get upgrade shows me an unmed dependencies error |
| 08:59.22 | Coke | mhall: Lisp is easier to write fuzzy logic and AI with than BASH. |
| 08:59.22 | Guerin | jm_: the only good use for xml is as a markup language for documents which need to be rendered into arbitrary formats |
| 08:59.22 | dondelelcaro | !tell Toshi -about bat |
| 08:59.24 | mhall | i was an XML end user and found it was very good for what we did |
| 08:59.24 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: you mean by using various libraries to do the job and call callbacks? |
| 08:59.29 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: follow those instructions if you can |
| 08:59.32 | Toshi | installing this packet is due an preinstal error not |
| 08:59.38 | mhall | Coke: we were talking about everyday configuration |
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| 08:59.50 | mhall | Coke: so please see my statements as pertaining to this topic |
| 08:59.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expressions are the best if you require logic in your config file. |
| 08:59.58 | dondelelcaro | jm_: that's one method; there are also libraries which can parse the entire thing into a data structure as well if the file is known to be small enough to do that |
| 09:00.08 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: true |
| 09:00.14 | mhall | Coke: i don't see how you can say they are always the best for logic |
| 09:00.20 | Coke | mhall: if you only need data structures I think YAML is by far superior to XML. |
| 09:00.35 | Toshi | its all about the tetex |
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| 09:00.49 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: right, well, we'll need the whole output so we can see exactly what is going on |
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| 09:01.01 | Huahua | 不错 |
| 09:01.04 | mhall | some kinds of config file use special regular expressions to deal with logic |
| 09:01.18 | mhall | and it's very fast and works pretty well for pattern matching situations |
| 09:01.30 | mhall | so one could argue standard ml would be better than s-expressions |
| 09:01.47 | Coke | mhall: for configuration files, yes, when s-expressions vs imperative aproach. I think config files could use a declarative aproach too. |
| 09:01.47 | mhall | s-expressions are not always the clearest most readable thing |
| 09:01.49 | Toshi | tetex-extra depends tetex-base an it not installed |
| 09:02.02 | Coke | mhall: certainly more readable than XML |
| 09:02.03 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: and why can't you install tetex-base? |
| 09:02.38 | mhall | Coke: i don't know, good xml can make a lot of things pretty clear |
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| 09:02.59 | mhall | the problem with most xml is that it's bloated but nothing about xml makes the bloat mandatory |
| 09:03.00 | Coke | mhall: I agree. but YAML or s-expressions makes it even more clear. |
| 09:03.04 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard, kernel is 2.6.14 |
| 09:03.07 | mhall | the problem is the users |
| 09:03.22 | mhall | they have misapplied the tool in cases |
| 09:03.33 | roo9 | with packages.debian.org down, does anyone know what package contains glib-config ? or how can i find that |
| 09:03.33 | jm_ | TiCPU: anything useful in logs when that starts happening? |
| 09:03.41 | jm_ | roo9: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:03.45 | Toshi | subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:03.47 | Coke | mhall: "<a>b</a>" VS "a: b" |
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| 09:04.10 | Coke | mhall: http://yaml.org/ |
| 09:04.11 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, wait a second |
| 09:04.29 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard |
| 09:04.31 | TiCPU | sorry |
| 09:04.38 | TiCPU | did not paste the right line |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting... |
| 09:04.45 | xchg | TiCPU: Realtek 8139 ? |
| 09:05.09 | TiCPU | via-rhine: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) |
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| 09:05.40 | Toshi | dondelelcaro: subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:05.49 | xchg | TiCPU: strange...had same problem with 8139...solved by using another module |
| 09:05.50 | mhall | the examples of YAML i'm seeing are not especially clear |
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| 09:06.08 | zimnyx | Do you know some mozilla-inbox commandline reader ? |
| 09:06.09 | TiCPU | it does so in both PIO and MMIO |
| 09:06.12 | mhall | i don't think i'd use it in a config file if i could use a tag system or lisp s-expr instead |
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| 09:06.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: I have via-rhine onboard at home, works fine - are you sure your link is OK when that happens? |
| 09:06.32 | mhall | it requires memorizing a custom syntax that isn't that obvious |
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| 09:07.18 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, rebooting just make it works until I start a download, I am on that computer right now, been on IRC for an hour or so, when downloading it won't last 5 minutes |
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| 09:08.04 | TiCPU | when the problem happens, the RX dropped count in ifconfig increase until all the pending packets came in and TX does not move at all |
| 09:08.21 | mhall | i wonder if you could develop a context free configuration file format where you don't have to worry about hierarchializing things |
| 09:08.33 | mhall | that would eliminate many of the headaches |
| 09:09.03 | diana | testing uses mysql 4.1...and not 5.0? |
| 09:09.34 | TiCPU | xchg: was it the same problem as this or ? |
| 09:09.40 | mhall | diana: 5.0 is really new and not esp stable yet afaict |
| 09:09.55 | xchg | TiCPU: packet drop after certain amount of downloaded data |
| 09:10.06 | mhall | diana: so it could take some time for them to get all the versions of the related packages compiled at the same time as each other and imported into stable |
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| 09:10.09 | bibe | diana : you can use mysql-server-5.0 from testing |
| 09:10.27 | mhall | alright, i just thought of a debian question finally... |
| 09:10.30 | TiCPU | xchg: you say changing the module helped, mm maybe I could try a make clean and make on my kernel |
| 09:10.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: might be an IRQ issue - I know I've had that when I started using it, then I used out-of-the-kernel-tree driver and that one worked, but then the problem disappeared, maybe try using various kernel options, such as disabling ACPI, APIC or pci=noacpi |
| 09:10.44 | xchg | TiCPU: at 2.6.x (don't remember exactly), but as i mentioned before it was 8139. Problem was solved by switching to 8139too instead of 8139cp |
| 09:10.52 | mhall | how do i set a hold on a package without using dselect? aptitude hold seems toothless and does not cause a package hold to 'stick' |
| 09:11.32 | TiCPU | mmm let me see the difference |
| 09:11.36 | xchg | TiCPU: you're using custom kernel? then the problem may be in some sort of mis-configured things (somewhere in BUS PCI section) |
| 09:11.39 | mhall | TiCPU: see if you can check /proc/interrupts and yank out unneeded pci cards and disable unneeded peripherals until your netcard gets its own IRQ |
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| 09:11.55 | TiCPU | let me see IRQ |
| 09:11.58 | mhall | TiCPU: i have had netcards that fail when sharing IRQs on PCI |
| 09:12.14 | jm_ | yeah that was my problem too |
| 09:12.14 | mhall | TiCPU: even though Intel mandates such support in the spec |
| 09:12.21 | mhall | jm_: fucking sucks doesn't it |
| 09:12.22 | Toshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.24 | TiCPU | it is alone on IRQ 19, only sharing is made by 'all-the-usb-ports' |
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| 09:12.26 | jm_ | mhall: indeed |
| 09:12.40 | mhall | TiCPU: hmm yeah, oughta work then |
| 09:12.46 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: I need the full output; use the paster bot to paste it. |
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| 09:12.52 | streuner | TV-card and soundcard doesn't work here (sharing the same IRQ) |
| 09:12.52 | mhall | TiCPU: maybe as they said, driver isn't quite right |
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| 09:13.26 | mhall | TiCPU: also better check make sure pci settings aren't weird, and any performance enhancements like mmapping io registers, etc. in driver are disabled until it's stable |
| 09:13.35 | gbkyle | any idea why apt-get installing a kernel/headers for a 2.6-686-smp would fail on boot? i get some /dev/console error and kernel panic. |
| 09:13.39 | TiCPU | is there a way to check if driver is in MMIO / PIO mode ? |
| 09:13.45 | mhall | TiCPU: additionally see if you can enable driver verbose logging |
| 09:13.59 | streuner | gbkyle: custom kernel? |
| 09:14.01 | gbkyle | nope |
| 09:14.07 | Silent_al | hi , ive got IE6 installed with wine , where can i find the original icon for it? |
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| 09:14.11 | mhall | TiCPU: see what you linked into the kernel /proc/config.gz if you enabled kernel config support |
| 09:14.11 | gbkyle | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 09:14.17 | streuner | gbkyle: grub? |
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| 09:14.22 | gbkyle | yes |
| 09:14.24 | mhall | TiCPU: otherwise .config in the code tree |
| 09:14.32 | thirst | where can i find a .deb package of gaim-2.0-beta ? |
| 09:14.34 | TiCPU | and yes, I enabled MMIO first, I thhough that was the cause, I did a make modules after disabling it and reloaded the module (also rebooted later) |
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| 09:15.06 | xchg | TiCPU: btw, are there anything NIC related in BIOS ? |
| 09:15.11 | mhall | TiCPU: also maybe check bios and disable any overclocked shit |
| 09:15.20 | jm_ | TiCPU: pass debug=7 to the driver |
| 09:15.24 | xchg | some sort of "preformance boosting" or something like that |
| 09:15.26 | TiCPU | mmm I remember I can only disable it and also enable wake on lan |
| 09:15.37 | mhall | xchg: yeah i'll never buy a DFI mobo ever again |
| 09:15.40 | TiCPU | no overclock at the moment ;) |
| 09:15.47 | TiCPU | ok, let me reload the driver |
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| 09:16.03 | mhall | xchg: i did a community service project installing *gasp* xp pro onto one and it bluescreened for weeks |
| 09:16.09 | gbkyle | streuner: any ideas? |
| 09:16.18 | xchg | mhall: hate these performance quirks in bios |
| 09:16.20 | mhall | xchg: stupid dfi used hack performance settings that confused stock drivers |
| 09:16.21 | streuner | no, not about grub... |
| 09:16.23 | TiCPU | omg... I was able to do it without reconnecting ahahah |
| 09:16.26 | gbkyle | ok |
| 09:16.27 | xchg | mhall: since these're marketing fakes |
| 09:16.38 | mhall | xchg: and their load safe defaults shit refused to disable the unsafe shit |
| 09:16.43 | gbkyle | where did nvidia-kernel-source go? |
| 09:16.45 | gbkyle | :\ |
| 09:16.50 | mhall | xchg: fucking conjobbing bastards |
| 09:16.57 | TiCPU | jm_: thanks for that one, got many debug info now |
| 09:17.08 | mhall | xchg: and i won't buy abit again either |
| 09:17.09 | streuner | gbkyle: dpkg -L <package> |
| 09:17.12 | xchg | mhall: nowadays even IBM doing such things |
| 09:17.25 | xchg | mhall: had ibm brand new laptop here with broken ACPI |
| 09:17.34 | gbkyle | im saying in the debian packages |
| 09:17.46 | gbkyle | havent used debian in a while i remember there being a nvidia-kernel |
| 09:17.49 | TiCPU | (maybe too much) |
| 09:17.49 | gbkyle | whatever |
| 09:17.52 | mhall | xchg: cheap sleeve bearing northbridge fan burnt out northbridge and my cpu was running überslow with half-speed clock... couldn't figure out why |
| 09:18.07 | TiCPU | I will try a download now, brb (probably) |
| 09:18.10 | sep | gbkyle, i ususaly use the nvidia one-liner /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 09:18.19 | gbkyle | ty |
| 09:18.20 | mhall | xchg: had to get all new mobo, proc, power supply cause i needed it fixed fast and nobody sells ath xp mobos locally |
| 09:18.30 | jm_ | it's in non-free ... |
| 09:18.32 | khermans | What date was "woody" released? |
| 09:18.33 | mhall | xchg: broken acpi? i can help you there a bit |
| 09:18.42 | jm_ | khermans: Debian web page will tell you or the bot |
| 09:18.43 | streuner | gbkyle: what version of debian do you use? |
| 09:18.48 | xchg | mhall: don't worry, we've sent it back to US |
| 09:18.54 | xchg | mhall: ibm US office |
| 09:19.02 | isorox | july 19 2002 |
| 09:19.05 | streuner | khermans: /msg dpkg woody |
| 09:19.09 | mhall | xchg: yeah i had to do some stuff to get my acer working |
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| 09:19.25 | xchg | mhall: they'll charge our back, since ibm cert. enginers stroked their dicks at that laptop for 3 weeks and could do nothing with it |
| 09:19.27 | gbkyle | 3.1 |
| 09:19.44 | gbkyle | netinstall then i did a dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 09:19.49 | xchg | mhall: so it's hardware bug rather... |
| 09:19.51 | mhall | xchg: bet i could get it to work in a day |
| 09:20.02 | smacky_wolf | Erm, hi all. |
| 09:20.11 | smacky_wolf | I have a question that maybe someone here can resolve |
| 09:20.29 | Toshi | dondelcarlo: it an offline station |
| 09:20.39 | smacky_wolf | Would anyone be kind enough to give me a hand |
| 09:20.47 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:20.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:20.49 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about ask |
| 09:21.02 | xchg | mhall: it wasn't mine, my friend from US residing here right now ordered it. I only had a chance to play with it for couple of hours, until it brought machine to ibm service support |
| 09:21.17 | xchg | mhall: but let's face the fact, hardware nowadays is _shit_ |
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| 09:22.13 | xchg | never will forget that day when i had to re-solder the QFP packaged 128 pin chip on ATX mb |
| 09:22.52 | xchg | becose soldering robot was out of ware to solder it correctly i guess :-) |
| 09:22.56 | mhall | xchg: blecch |
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| 09:23.57 | Toshi | dondelelcaro can you open a private channel ? |
| 09:24.05 | netman1 | Hi All. How do I merge 2 lines in vi? |
| 09:24.18 | streuner | gbkyle: does the error look similar to this one? /msg dpkg udev 2.6.12 |
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| 09:24.40 | jm_ | netman1: J |
| 09:24.51 | netman1 | jm_: Thanks. |
| 09:24.54 | tarzeau | nobody knows what usb device not accepting new address=36 (error=-71) means? |
| 09:24.54 | smacky|FFS | Am I an idiot if I don't understand asl |
| 09:25.00 | smacky|FFS | *ask |
| 09:25.28 | khermans | Debina rules -- you guys rock -- if only Linux had genetalia, well... |
| 09:25.53 | mhall | khermans: don't go there |
| 09:26.02 | thering | hi? |
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| 09:26.16 | sep | smacky_wolf, it just means you wont get answers if all you do it ask about help. you must provide detail about what is wrong and if someone knows they'll answer. |
| 09:26.18 | smacky_wolf | If linux had genitalia, it would be cheating on me >=( |
| 09:26.19 | khermans | mhall, i puprosely left it to your imagination --> http://www.fu-fme.com |
| 09:26.32 | mhall | thering: heh |
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| 09:26.37 | smacky_wolf | Sep: OK, I get it. |
| 09:26.47 | thering | mhall ,heh |
| 09:26.54 | khermans | Debian --> http://www.fu-fme.com/faq.html |
| 09:27.01 | xchg | hm, penguins definitely has genitalia :-) |
| 09:27.09 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about smart questions |
| 09:27.34 | sep | smacky_wolf, reading that should give you the needed skills in how to ask questions in a way that makes it easier to help you |
| 09:27.38 | thering | could I ask a smart question here? |
| 09:27.53 | xchg | bleh |
| 09:28.18 | smacky_wolf | Well then. I am trying to install Debian Sarge 2.6.8 onto an Acer Extensa 2300. I can boot, the first stage of install works fine, but when it comes time to actually boot into my new system, it hangs while detecting USB devices. I have none attached, all it does is try to configure the actual hardware. I can't do anyhting, i can't open a new terminal, or anything at all. |
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| 09:28.54 | chugga | Version: 1.0.4-2sarge5 <- apt cache show mozilla-firefox ....... im using testing. isnt this a bit old for testing? |
| 09:28.57 | smacky_wolf | Any ideas? I have had hangs on UBS beforewith another machine, but usually after a while they just fix themselves. |
| 09:29.01 | mhall | smacky_wolf: i think you can boot with nousb |
| 09:29.12 | mhall | smacky_wolf: try looking through fkey screens |
| 09:29.20 | Toshi | could anybody help me with an apt-get error ? i cant use dpkg because the target system is offline |
| 09:29.22 | smacky_wolf | I tried that, apparantly it didn't work |
| 09:29.28 | xchg | smacky_wolf: it can be solved cardinally if you disable USB in bios |
| 09:29.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: well it's really shitting on your day |
| 09:29.39 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you'll be able to log in |
| 09:29.45 | mhall | xchg: not sure you can on laptops |
| 09:29.56 | mhall | xchg: they are lame about configurability |
| 09:29.59 | xchg | mhall: hm, maybe you're right |
| 09:30.01 | noiesmo | Toshi, whats your error messgae |
| 09:30.08 | gbkyle | streuner: if you're still here.. i got it to boot.. i needed to install udev ;) |
| 09:30.12 | mhall | xchg: i don't want to be |
| 09:30.18 | mhall | xchg: i hope i am wrong |
| 09:30.18 | smacky_wolf | Oh, OK. Will I eventually be able to comfig the USB after first boot? I really would like to use it. |
| 09:30.32 | gbkyle | streuner: oh and grub changed the menu.lst to hda instead of sda |
| 09:30.33 | Toshi | i cant install tetex-* because unmet dependencies |
| 09:30.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: yeah, long term it should work, it does on my aspire 5000 |
| 09:30.43 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you can boot in and take a look what's happening actually |
| 09:30.44 | smacky_wolf | Awesome. |
| 09:30.51 | mhall | smacky_wolf: it's just some glitch |
| 09:30.55 | xchg | smacky_wolf: or just try ctrl-c combination during USB scan |
| 09:30.58 | mhall | smacky_wolf: let me provide a link to try |
| 09:31.13 | smacky_wolf | I tried the ctl+c also. No dice. |
| 09:31.23 | xchg | smacky_wolf: and other terminal ? |
| 09:31.38 | xchg | smacky_wolf: can you switch to another vconsole ? |
| 09:31.38 | noiesmo | !unmet dependencies |
| 09:31.39 | streuner | gbkyle: hm, wired, i thought netinstall install udev by default... |
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| 09:31.42 | smacky_wolf | nope. |
| 09:31.53 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:31.54 | mhall | smacky_wolf: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:32.06 | xchg | these configurators are going worse and worse |
| 09:32.23 | xchg | man should be able to switch console anytime |
| 09:32.26 | Toshi | i already tried the dpkd -r |
| 09:32.29 | gbkyle | the instructions that dpkg gave me to install nvidia one-liner didnt work :| any other suggestions to install nvidia drivers? |
| 09:32.58 | Toshi | noiesmo there seems to be a problem with the tetex-* files |
| 09:32.58 | noiesmo | Toshi, what debian version |
| 09:33.05 | smacky_wolf | Mhall: Thanks muchly :) |
| 09:33.11 | smacky_wolf | And to anyone else also. |
| 09:33.12 | streuner | gbkyle: what didn't work? |
| 09:33.27 | gbkyle | <dpkg> nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 09:33.29 | Toshi | noiiesmo mostly handcrafted |
| 09:33.53 | gbkyle | streuner: module-assistant, error message: Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. |
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| 09:34.01 | xchg | smacky_wolf: try to plug something to usb port and do it over |
| 09:34.18 | smacky_wolf | Yeah, tried that also. |
| 09:34.32 | xchg | but in my oppinion just wrong chipset module is used |
| 09:34.56 | streuner | gbkyle: did you try to install those packages by hand (via apt-get)? |
| 09:35.00 | sep | gbkyle, it would help if you said what part failed in how it failed. you can also use the nvidia howto /msg dpkg nvidia howto |
| 09:35.22 | streuner | gbkyle: try 'apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-setting |
| 09:35.22 | Silent_al | thirst , ya' here? |
| 09:35.36 | Toshi | noiesmo the installation of tetex results in a pre-installation script reports error |
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| 09:35.46 | gbkyle | there is no nvidia-glx package anymore |
| 09:35.46 | mhall | how can i force a package hold on the command line? aptitude hold seems to be ignored by apt-get |
| 09:35.53 | gbkyle | its referred to by another package |
| 09:36.03 | andrewtaylor_ | I installed Debian sarge, on a cheap box with a Riva TNT32MB, I ran XF86Config and setup the card for 1280x1024 @ 60, when I start-x, it's in 800x600 and the only options I have in my WM is 800x600 and 640x480 - Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 09:36.07 | streuner | dpkg info nvidia-glx testing |
| 09:36.09 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-4 (etch), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 9592 kB |
| 09:36.35 | quasisane | mhall: echo 'packagename hold' | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 09:36.50 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:36.51 | sep | gbkyle, did you read the last part of the one-liner, the one about requiering nonfree and contrib sources |
| 09:36.53 | xchg | andrewtaylor_: can TNT work in 1280x1024 ? |
| 09:37.01 | xchg | !calc 1280*1024*2 |
| 09:37.05 | mhall | quasisane: ah sweet |
| 09:37.07 | xchg | hm |
| 09:37.18 | streuner | gbkyle: add non-free/contrib to your sources.list |
| 09:37.21 | rendi | apt-get -y install apache2 phpbb2 mysql-server |
| 09:37.23 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, you need to look at your monitors capablities and set the hor and vert freq range also maybe aim for 1024 x 768 |
| 09:37.27 | rendi | E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes |
| 09:37.29 | rendi | why |
| 09:37.29 | gbkyle | ah, sry. |
| 09:37.30 | rendi | anyone ? |
| 09:37.40 | rendi | hlep |
| 09:37.40 | andrewtaylor_ | why the lower res? |
| 09:38.07 | SlayerXP | rendi: don't use -y then |
| 09:38.08 | mhall | quasisane: thanks |
| 09:38.29 | quasisane | mhall: you're welcome |
| 09:38.31 | sep | andrewtaylor_, becouse your monitor settings claim that's the highest you should use, adjust the refreash rates acording to your monitor spec |
| 09:38.41 | mhall | quasisane: i have used --get-... a lot but never considered set ;-) |
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| 09:38.58 | andrewtaylor_ | My monitor is a 1280x1024 flat panel, it'll look rotten if it's not a native |
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| 09:39.03 | streuner | !hold |
| 09:39.03 | dpkg | [hold] a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect or aptitude. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
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| 09:39.13 | inter | join #debian es |
| 09:39.21 | inter | hola |
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| 09:40.00 | inter | como me conecto con debian es |
| 09:40.07 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, well youll need to find the right refresh rate and h & v sync open console and try xf86config or xf86cfg |
| 09:40.17 | andrewtaylor_ | okay thanks |
| 09:40.24 | Silent_al | inter, /join #debian es |
| 09:40.34 | Guerin | no |
| 09:40.49 | Guerin | don't use xf86config |
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| 09:40.56 | Silent_al | !teel inter about debian es |
| 09:41.07 | Guerin | ask dpkg about set up x and hwinfo |
| 09:41.12 | Silent_al | opps... nm. |
| 09:41.17 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, Guerin says only use xf86cfg |
| 09:41.26 | Guerin | no |
| 09:41.34 | Guerin | guerin says NEVER use xf86config |
| 09:41.38 | Guerin | of xf86cfg |
| 09:41.45 | sep | !drxx |
| 09:41.45 | dpkg | from memory, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 09:41.57 | inter | no asi no |
| 09:42.21 | bobbens | inter: /join #debian-es |
| 09:42.29 | xchg | X -configure usually do the trick |
| 09:42.31 | inter | graccies |
| 09:42.38 | Guerin | goddamnit |
| 09:42.42 | Guerin | this is debian, people |
| 09:42.43 | andrewtaylor_ | thanks |
| 09:42.52 | Guerin | there are tools which work |
| 09:42.57 | Silent_al | !tell inter about spanish |
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| 09:43.08 | Guerin | you don't have to use xf86cfg, X -config and so on |
| 09:43.17 | xchg | Guerin: it's a question of taste |
| 09:43.23 | streuner | no |
| 09:43.33 | Guerin | xchg: it's a question of whether you want to break your config files for debconf |
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| 09:43.37 | streuner | not for people using debian |
| 09:44.03 | xchg | editing configs by hand either prohibited in debian ? ;-) |
| 09:44.09 | xchg | didn't knew |
| 09:44.40 | sep | xchg, ofcourse you can do it that way. but then you have to fix it again yourself when a package upgrades something you didnt think of. and debconf would have kept it ok for you. |
| 09:44.47 | Guerin | xchg: not at all. But some config files are protected, and if you fuck with them, it breaks debconf. |
| 09:44.58 | Guerin | the x config file is one such |
| 09:45.41 | Guerin | where is .hr |
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| 09:45.48 | Guerin | !country codes |
| 09:45.49 | dpkg | Country codes are at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt |
| 09:45.58 | streuner | croatia |
| 09:45.59 | sep | xchg, besides dpkg-reconfigure rocks awsome. you can just enter along to the value you want to change and then just keep enter pressed until it exits. it remembers you previous choises saves you entering every single value all the time. it just rocks |
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| 09:46.06 | prh | can anyone help me recover a dead filesystem? It is ext3 in an LVM2 lv - fsck says "Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/weeblu05/weeblu05-home" to any superblock. ext2resize says "ext2_open: fs has unsupported feature(s) enabled: compat 80008000 ro_compat 80008000 recover incompat 80008004" lde says "Warning: First block (2147516416) != Normal first block (1)" .... any ideas? |
| 09:46.12 | thering | !tell |
| 09:46.15 | gbkyle | streuner / sep : thank you for your help |
| 09:46.17 | cusco | hi! |
| 09:46.27 | Guerin | Hrvatska, right you are |
| 09:46.39 | Guerin | i'll probably be going to coratia :) |
| 09:46.41 | sep | only thing i wish it did better was multihead :) but that's ok |
| 09:46.43 | cusco | when I use cfdisk I don't see the ext3 file system type |
| 09:46.44 | Guerin | bah, and croatia too |
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| 09:46.52 | cusco | how do I format a hard drive to be ext3 |
| 09:46.55 | thering | !tell me about smart questions |
| 09:47.01 | Guerin | cusco: you don't, using cfdisk |
| 09:47.04 | sep | cusco, mkfs -t ext3 /device |
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| 09:47.31 | cusco | oh.. ok.. sep will that format it? |
| 09:47.33 | xchg | sep: there're several things i like to do by hand, several things i let debconf do, everything working just fine. it's a true freedomship |
| 09:47.37 | Guerin | cusco: cfdisk makes partitions. Once you've made a partition, use mkfs.ext3 to put a filesystem on it |
| 09:47.45 | sep | cusco, and /device ofcouse beeing a partitino not a harddrive |
| 09:47.47 | cusco | oh.. heh ok |
| 09:47.53 | cusco | right.. thanks |
| 09:47.54 | xchg | sep: X config is the one of things i like to edit by hand |
| 09:48.18 | sep | xchg, yes. but you shoudnt recomend that to others especialy if you dont know their skill level, and they might not know how to fix debconf |
| 09:48.31 | gbkyle | uh, hrm any idea why when gdm starts.. my monitor looks like shit.. (i can see the nvidia splash screen) but its so dim? |
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| 09:48.53 | Guerin | particularly since you can damage some video hardware if you fuck up a modeline |
| 09:49.07 | Guerin | gbkyle: i blame nvidia |
| 09:49.15 | gbkyle | grr |
| 09:49.22 | sep | Guerin, that was long ago tho. been years since i was able to do that |
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| 09:49.41 | Guerin | sep: but once again, you don't know what hardware you're dealing with |
| 09:49.44 | gbkyle | how can i disable gdm at boot again? |
| 09:49.51 | sep | Guerin, yes very tues :) |
| 09:49.58 | streuner | gbkyle: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 09:50.06 | xchg | sep: there's only problem with question guy asked, i'm completely don't sure that 32MB TNT can address 1280*1024*16/24/32 . X -configure will fetch available modes for the card and create config at _home_ directory. Then he can list it for the available modes |
| 09:50.25 | xchg | sep: so /etc/X11/... isn't affected at this point |
| 09:50.29 | Guerin | xchg: hwinfo does that too |
| 09:50.35 | gbkyle | thanks again |
| 09:50.46 | Guerin | come to thinik of it, so does dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 09:51.45 | tjostolf | gbkyle: and you can do /etc/init.d/gdm -f remove; /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 09:53.39 | gbkyle | Got it. |
| 09:53.52 | CasinoLuv | how to close a window in xserver using a shell script? |
| 09:54.03 | gbkyle | now i just gotta figure out what the fuck is wrong with nvidia and my monitor :\ |
| 09:54.41 | diana | I did apt-get install apache2 mysql-server phpbb2, and they all installed fine..and my web server is up and running...but how do I implement phpbb2 into my site?(I am on testing, with "testing security" like in the topic. |
| 09:54.55 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and make it empty instead of uninstalling |
| 09:54.55 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: you can kill something using its x resource handle using kill? or xkill maybe |
| 09:56.18 | CasinoLuv | Guerin: I would like just to close the window not kill the process directly |
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| 09:56.45 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i think xkill can do that, too. |
| 09:57.02 | bibe | diana : take a look at the output of 'dpkg -L phpbb2', it's possible that it installed an apache2 configuration file for phpbb2 |
| 09:57.10 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i've not used it in an age or three, though, so I may well be wrong. |
| 09:57.22 | jvw | diana: check out /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
| 09:57.26 | jvw | diana: esp README.Debian |
| 09:57.34 | jvw | diana: possibly you want to install mysql-server too |
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| 09:57.41 | jvw | diana: and then phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.22 | melao- | where can I find tips on how to setup a network, distribute configuration files from a server to a couple of clients, etc? |
| 09:58.28 | xchg | CasinoLuv: xwininfo for getting the resource id, then xkill |
| 09:58.36 | SlayerXP | melao-: cfengine will let you do that |
| 09:58.41 | diana | jvw: I did all that. |
| 09:58.46 | deeler | I need the 'rsh' command for debian, but it seems to be the ssh version, where can i find the regular one ? |
| 09:58.50 | diana | I setup mysql with phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.58 | jm_ | deeLer: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:59.00 | diana | jvw: But I'm not sure how to actually add phpbb2 to my website. |
| 09:59.01 | Guerin | diana: which regular version? |
| 09:59.10 | rendi | tes |
| 09:59.10 | Guerin | deeler: which regular version? |
| 09:59.13 | smacky_wolf | Ok, guys. Next time I talk to you, it should be from within Debian :D |
| 09:59.15 | diana | Guerin: I dunno whatever testing uses. |
| 09:59.17 | jvw | diana: that's why there's a README.Debian |
| 09:59.22 | jetscreamer | hwinfo --monitor for the refreshrates gbkyle |
| 09:59.23 | smacky_wolf | Thanks for the help <3 |
| 09:59.24 | Guerin | diana: sorry, that was my bad |
| 09:59.27 | xchg | smacky_wolf: any success ? |
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| 09:59.38 | jvw | diana: you'll need to include the /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf in your apache setup |
| 09:59.38 | Gnea | ugh.. does anyone have, or used, a toshiba satellite 5105-S501 laptop? i already looked it up and what's there is very scant |
| 09:59.44 | CasinoLuv | xchg: but Xkill wont provide any warranty that the app wil end "ok" |
| 09:59.50 | deeLer | like the one in RedHat , doesn't use SSH , but the man says it's just a remote shell , no secure conenctions |
| 10:00.00 | jvw | diana: like add "Include /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf" to /etc/apache(2?)/apache.conf or so |
| 10:00.16 | smacky_wolf | Just finished burning the CD, and am about to rebot |
| 10:00.18 | Guerin | deeLer: wtf would you not want secure connections? |
| 10:00.32 | CasinoLuv | I need a way I can close a window(like clicking on the close button) using a shell script |
| 10:01.02 | deeLer | Guerin, it's on a local network to execute a command on an Axel Platine Terminal |
| 10:01.10 | Gnea | oh geez.... nevermind |
| 10:01.12 | xchg | CasinoLuv: as far as i know it doesn't acts as kill, instead it dealing with xserver forcing him to close the connection |
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| 10:01.28 | deeLer | used to work with Fedora, but on Debian 'rsh' is the SSH version |
| 10:01.50 | Guerin | deeLer: heh. |
| 10:01.52 | xchg | CasinoLuv: and IMHO if the application wrote right (e.g. handling the X signals well), nothing wrong will happen..or..who knows :-) |
| 10:01.58 | deeLer | okay; i did a rsh-client apt-get ... works now |
| 10:02.01 | jvw | deeLer: there *is* real rsh in Debian too, if you really must have it |
| 10:02.01 | deeLer | thanks jm_ |
| 10:02.09 | jvw | deeLer: ah, you found it |
| 10:02.15 | Guerin | deeLer: see if it's configurable, else build the source for your own. Or consider telnet or such. <shudder> |
| 10:02.27 | Guerin | oh |
| 10:02.28 | deeLer | yeah ... now 'rsh' is a real rsh |
| 10:02.30 | Guerin | winnah |
| 10:02.41 | deeLer | wierd that the command names are the same, anyway, it works now |
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| 10:03.08 | melao- | I'm looking for a way to install clients automatically, without the need to answer all the questions dpkg asks, and then update its configuration later based on a single well-configured model client. is that possible? |
| 10:03.26 | jvw | deeLer: that's because a lot of programs use rsh as tunnel, and by having rsh default to ssh if real rsh isn't installed, they all work out of the box... |
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| 10:03.34 | CasinoLuv | xchg: that part of the who knows its what worries me...but I will dig up further into this subject |
| 10:03.39 | jvw | deeLer: like rsync, remote cvs, etc etc |
| 10:03.57 | jetscreamer | melao-: i saw some automated program like what you want in sources but i don't remember the name |
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| 10:04.05 | xchg | CasinoLuv: if you want to close only one type of application you can simple trace back the results |
| 10:04.07 | noiesmo | melao-, i know red hat has kickstart http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html |
| 10:04.26 | deeLer | jvw, thanks for the info |
| 10:04.33 | jm_ | melao-: pre-seeding |
| 10:04.36 | jvw | deeLer: after all, ssh is a sort of 'remote shell', just using a differnet protocol, and it's intended as rsh replacement |
| 10:04.36 | noiesmo | melao-, not sure if debian version |
| 10:04.38 | petemc | melao-: look at phil hands version of d-i |
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| 10:04.58 | raf256 | !rq raf256 |
| 10:05.02 | raf256 | !qod raf256 |
| 10:05.08 | raf256 | hmm... |
| 10:05.11 | raf256 | !qod0 |
| 10:05.20 | thirst | Silent_al: yeah ... me here |
| 10:05.28 | raf256 | damn, how to show mine quotes? |
| 10:05.32 | jetscreamer | quotd? |
| 10:05.55 | jm_ | !qotd131 |
| 10:05.56 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 10:06.13 | xchg | lol :) |
| 10:07.04 | liable | hehe, thats one of my favs. |
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| 10:07.52 | xchg | liable: the best keyboard trainer by the way :-) |
| 10:08.15 | liable | heh |
| 10:08.16 | Silent_al | thirst, do u still want a gaim2 deb pkg? |
| 10:08.37 | diana | jvw: It is telling me it can't connect to the database. |
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| 10:08.45 | MrFaber | hi all |
| 10:08.51 | xchg | hi |
| 10:08.55 | MrFaber | is it possible that many packets are missing in etch? |
| 10:09.05 | MrFaber | Which are in other debian versions? |
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| 10:09.11 | thirst | Silent_al: well i wanted .. until i reaized that it doesn't come in with -vv .. or does it ? |
| 10:09.18 | MrFaber | hi xchg |
| 10:09.24 | chugga | whats -vv? |
| 10:09.24 | noiesmo | diana, you will need to adjust phpbb2 config fill with database mysql info |
| 10:09.25 | jm_ | MrFaber: /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing |
| 10:09.25 | thirst | Silent_al: but give me the link anyway.. |
| 10:09.30 | thirst | chugga: voice and video |
| 10:09.33 | noiesmo | fill =file |
| 10:09.39 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:09.40 | chugga | thirst, ok |
| 10:09.42 | caphuso | ok. where did you get it from? |
| 10:09.46 | diana | jvw: I did "/etc/init.d/mysql start" and the sql server said it started...but when I "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" I get an error when I try to "Create" the user phpbb2 |
| 10:09.55 | MrFaber | Something like vlc k3b and so on |
| 10:10.03 | MrFaber | the help files of this programs are there |
| 10:10.04 | noiesmo | diana, by default mysql user is root with no pasword |
| 10:10.07 | botsy | anybody use mosix ? |
| 10:10.14 | MrFaber | but not the programs themselves |
| 10:10.31 | botsy | i have recompil my kernel and i want to patch my kernel .. |
| 10:10.38 | botsy | with the mosix patch |
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| 10:10.44 | Silent_al | thirst , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=558191 |
| 10:11.02 | botsy | it's not necessary i download kernel source if i have recompil my kernel ? |
| 10:11.05 | noiesmo | diana, look at installing phpmyadmin its a nice web interface for mysql apt-get install phpmyadmin then http://website/phpmyadmin |
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| 10:11.16 | thirst | Silent_al: thanks |
| 10:11.38 | jvw | noiesmo: eh, not if you use phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 10:11.40 | jvw | diana: did you set a root password for mysql? |
| 10:11.41 | traian | hello |
| 10:11.43 | jetscreamer | botsy: if you recompiled your kernel you should already have the source |
| 10:11.50 | jvw | diana: and fill in the exact same password when phpbb2-conf-mysql asked you? |
| 10:11.51 | traian | i have a little problem |
| 10:11.55 | botsy | oky thank jetscreamer |
| 10:12.02 | traian | when i run apt-get update i get this error "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 10:12.03 | traian | " |
| 10:12.03 | noiesmo | jvw, k havent used it sorry |
| 10:12.17 | traian | what should i do about it? |
| 10:12.18 | bobbens | traian: /topic |
| 10:12.25 | Guerin | traian: read the topic |
| 10:12.29 | Guerin | ferchrissakes |
| 10:12.32 | traian | oh |
| 10:12.34 | traian | sorry |
| 10:12.41 | liable | !topicfsck traian |
| 10:12.51 | diana | jvw: I tried to...I did dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql...but I get "Failure: Database not created" |
| 10:13.13 | diana | jvw: It says error when trying to connect to the mysql database. |
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| 10:13.26 | jvw | diana: try whether you can connect yourself with 'mysql' |
| 10:13.35 | jvw | diana: anyway gotta go |
| 10:13.36 | noiesmo | diana, ps ax | grep mysql see if mysql running then |
| 10:13.56 | diana | jvw: I have a prompt with mysql> when I type that. |
| 10:14.22 | diana | mysql 5727 0.0 3.5 117636 16044 pts/0 Sl 05:11 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 10:14.24 | jvw | didn't test it I think, maybe it doesn't work without a root password |
| 10:14.41 | diana | But I can't create a root password because it says it can't connect. |
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| 10:14.51 | jvw | diana: if it turns out that that was indeed the issue, please file a bug, I need to fix it then |
| 10:14.54 | Silent_al | traian, gimme a minute , i'll tell u how to solve this prob |
| 10:15.01 | jvw | diana: you can, you set a mysql root password with mysql |
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| 10:15.04 | jvw | diana: not with phpbb |
| 10:15.08 | traian | ok |
| 10:15.15 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:15.23 | diana | jvw: When I did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it asked me for the root password for mysql. |
| 10:15.27 | xchg | omer_07: what's a problem with it ? |
| 10:15.30 | jvw | hopefully others can help you, otherwise, try forums.debian.net |
| 10:15.40 | hazed | diana: mysqladmin -u root password 'yourpass' will add a password. |
| 10:15.41 | jvw | diana: yes, but you need to *set* one first |
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| 10:16.40 | Shadur | Hmm. Xorg just stopped honoring control-alt-f1, and I'm not sure what I broke. |
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| 10:17.04 | diana | jvw: I typed as root in bash "mysqladmin -u root password mypassword" |
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| 10:17.17 | diana | jvw: Then I did /etc/init.d/mysql restart" and it still doesn't work... |
| 10:17.21 | omer_07 | xchg : i can see it on usb, i add printer, system recognizes printer but i couldn't get paper from printer. i can see document in kjobviewer, after -10 second it says aborted. How can i solve this? |
| 10:17.24 | diana | phpBB : Critical Error |
| 10:17.26 | diana | Could not connect to the database |
| 10:17.47 | Guerin | diana: read the documentation |
| 10:18.00 | Guerin | diana: really, this isn't so complicated you need someone to hold your hand through it |
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| 10:18.16 | Guerin | diana: or, if it is, you need to consider hiring an admin |
| 10:18.33 | xchg | omer_07: did you read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 ? |
| 10:19.35 | deeLer | does the recently updated debian r1 install cd contains more hardware support ? or is it just security updates? |
| 10:19.47 | Silent_al | traian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary |
| 10:19.56 | noiesmo | diana, my suggestion and way of setting up mysql is to apt-get install phpmyadmin then open web browser http://yoursitename.blah/phpmyadmin then try access via user root no password if it says you are using password then enter in any password you may have set for it this will at least confim your mysql server |
| 10:20.13 | diana | cool it works |
| 10:20.28 | diana | Once I made the root password, then did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it worked. |
| 10:20.38 | diana | But I had to manually make the root password with mysql. |
| 10:20.47 | Guerin | amazingly |
| 10:20.57 | MrFaber | Is anyone useing etch? |
| 10:20.57 | jetscreamer | hmmm phpbb doesn't like insecurity? |
| 10:21.03 | omer_07 | xchg: thanks. i will read now |
| 10:21.19 | hazed | diana: Yea, you have to manually set the root password for mysql, debconf usually tells you this :P |
| 10:21.20 | Guerin | !anyone use etch? |
| 10:21.20 | dpkg | No, no one uses etch, not even the people who use it. |
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| 10:21.40 | Silent_al | !heh |
| 10:21.40 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
| 10:21.43 | jetscreamer | i used the etch beta installer no idea about your question |
| 10:22.28 | Silent_al | !i uses etch |
| 10:22.32 | Silent_al | :) |
| 10:22.43 | Silent_al | MrFaber, me |
| 10:22.46 | traian | Silent_al, thx |
| 10:22.53 | Silent_al | traian, np :) |
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| 10:23.02 | MrFaber | Silent_al: thanks, do you find vlc in your repository? |
| 10:23.04 | MrFaber | or k3b |
| 10:23.09 | MrFaber | or vnc4 |
| 10:23.32 | Silent_al | yup |
| 10:23.49 | MrFaber | hm, can you private message the standard part of your sources.list? |
| 10:23.50 | Silent_al | try search for it at : www.apt-get.org |
| 10:24.00 | MrFaber | I mean apt-cache search ... |
| 10:24.28 | chugga | etch my sketch |
| 10:25.06 | MrFaber | I don't want extra repositories and the funny thing is that there is a videolan help file in rep but not program |
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| 10:25.38 | sar4er | witam |
| 10:26.52 | diana | jvm: "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." |
| 10:27.01 | diana | jvw: Do I just go to login and login... root and my password? |
| 10:27.03 | diana | Or what is the username. |
| 10:27.07 | diana | administrator? |
| 10:27.51 | Guerin | !rtfm diana |
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| 10:29.30 | Gnea | UGH, dpkg will NOT let me downgrade my nvidia |
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| 10:30.03 | maxxle | h |
| 10:30.19 | jetscreamer | uninstall it first? |
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| 10:30.52 | Gnea | that's what i did too |
| 10:30.57 | Gnea | i'll try again |
| 10:31.04 | jetscreamer | was just a though |
| 10:31.05 | jetscreamer | t |
| 10:31.22 | Gnea | well i just upgraded it so who knows |
| 10:31.27 | Gnea | heh, even the modem works now |
| 10:31.32 | jetscreamer | me, i can't uninstall 2.6.14-2-k7 |
| 10:31.33 | Gnea | using alsa |
| 10:31.45 | Gnea | you're not booted into it? |
| 10:31.49 | jetscreamer | no |
| 10:32.35 | Trewas | I guess debian does not have highmem enabled kernels available? I just installed debian (etch) to a computer with 2GB of memory, and everything else is working perfectly except for missing half of the memory... |
| 10:32.54 | Gnea | Trewas: you'll need to compile your own |
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| 10:33.08 | djp | what should i set my network connection to under totem preferences? i have a 2mb adsl connection. should i use 512kbps dsl/cable or 1.5mbps t1/intranet/lan? i want to listen to internet radio... |
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| 10:33.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: yes it is enabled in stock kernels by default iirc... 4gb is what i remember seeing it set at |
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| 10:33.40 | TiCPU | seems like having acpi=off noapic in my kernel command line solved my network card problem, any downside ? |
| 10:33.58 | sep | Trewas, i have 2Gb and see everything with a stock 2.6.14 686-smp from etch |
| 10:34.12 | redguy|work | Trewas: it is enabled in -snm kernels |
| 10:34.18 | redguy|work | -smp |
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| 10:35.12 | Gnea | that's retarded, there should be a 4gig enabled uni kernel |
| 10:35.21 | diana | Guerin: What is the login... root/Admin/admin/Adminstrator/administrator? |
| 10:35.23 | Trewas | at least with linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 which was installed by default there is only ~900MB memory |
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| 10:35.37 | luliana | ive troubles with the installation of java plug-ins |
| 10:35.47 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.53 | diana | Guerin: phpbb2 as my username? |
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| 10:36.24 | Gnea | !java-package |
| 10:36.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 10:36.25 | Trewas | but maybe I should try some never one (or 686/k7 version) in case they have it enabled, I'd rather not go with -smp kernel since there is only one processor |
| 10:36.51 | jetscreamer | 'could' be a function of the -386 kernel... try a better maybe |
| 10:37.14 | jetscreamer | oh and doesn't matter if you run an smp enabled kernel on a single proc box |
| 10:37.21 | luliana | ive downloaded a .bin file |
| 10:37.29 | luliana | so... i can delete it |
| 10:37.43 | jetscreamer | you downloaded so you can delete it... |
| 10:37.44 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 10:37.50 | Trewas | jetscreamer: isn't there some performance hit with smp-kernel? |
| 10:37.53 | luliana | i mean... |
| 10:38.03 | luliana | is it usable? |
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| 10:38.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: let me rephrase: i've seen ppl i respect say it doesn't matter.. i personally have no idea |
| 10:38.29 | jetscreamer | Trewas: but no not that i've heard |
| 10:38.40 | jetscreamer | go with the 686 or the k7 though |
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| 10:38.52 | jetscreamer | you probably don't need to go with the smp |
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| 10:39.24 | Trewas | I'll try those... |
| 10:39.40 | yosef | How do I know if my swap is working? gnome resource meter shows it at 0% |
| 10:39.43 | muttix | luliana, yes ! |
| 10:39.51 | jetscreamer | yosef: swapon -c |
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| 10:40.12 | luliana | muttix... yes what?!?! i getting a little bit confused |
| 10:40.23 | jetscreamer | Trewas: afaicr, every -k7 kernel in the past 3 or 4 versions have had the highmem set at 4gb by default |
| 10:40.38 | muttix | luliana, you downloaded a .bin |
| 10:40.41 | luliana | yes |
| 10:40.42 | yosef | jetscreamer: answer "invalid option" |
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| 10:41.01 | yosef | jetscreamer: swapon -s ? |
| 10:41.02 | muttix | luliana, name of file is ? |
| 10:41.05 | sep | yosef, cat /proc/swaps |
| 10:41.06 | jetscreamer | err.. yousef -s |
| 10:41.10 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 10:41.52 | rendi | help |
| 10:41.59 | luliana | muttix : jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:42.03 | rendi | i'm forgote mysql root password |
| 10:42.12 | muttix | luliana, 2.sec |
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| 10:42.50 | muttix | luliana, this is one way to do it http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 10:42.55 | yosef | OK I get Filename = "..." | Type = file | Size = 1126392 | Used = 12532 | Priority = -1| Does this mean it's set up right? |
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| 10:43.08 | luliana | thanks a lot |
| 10:43.14 | luliana | ill try to... |
| 10:43.20 | xchg | rendi: stop mysql |
| 10:43.27 | jetscreamer | it means it's on, yosef ... |
| 10:43.31 | jetscreamer | mounted |
| 10:43.36 | sep | rendi http://news.postnuke.com/Article1273.html |
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| 10:43.40 | xchg | rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:44.05 | xchg | rendi: or mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:44.31 | rendi | <xchg> rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & <== after this how to change the forgot one |
| 10:44.40 | xchg | raden: log to mysql |
| 10:44.42 | _joey | I have an off-topic question: What is so special about usenet? I can many providers from US selling personal and corporate accounts to access usenet |
| 10:44.45 | muttix | luliana, or do this ;) chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin -> su -> mkdir /usr/jave -> cd /usr/java -> su root -> ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:44.48 | xchg | raden: USE mysql; |
| 10:45.13 | sep | would it be possible to use the debian-sys-maint users defined in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to alter root's password perhaps ? someone knows |
| 10:45.14 | jetscreamer | it's not as policed as the intarweb i 'think' _joey |
| 10:45.15 | xchg | raden: update user set password=password("new password") where user='root'; |
| 10:45.15 | RichiH | hmm, i am having problems with iwcofig, orinoco cards & kernels 2.6.14/15 -- i am unable to give iwconfig any options, it always complains about that feature not bein supported |
| 10:45.17 | jetscreamer | for one |
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| 10:45.25 | rendi | not raden rendi :P |
| 10:45.27 | RichiH | is there sth to replace iwconfig or what do i do? |
| 10:45.34 | _joey | jetscreamer intarweb ? :) |
| 10:45.41 | xchg | rendi: sorry, fscked completion :-) |
| 10:45.43 | jetscreamer | internet |
| 10:45.46 | jetscreamer | http |
| 10:45.47 | muttix | luliana, i forgot : mv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java |
| 10:45.51 | xchg | rendi: flush privileges; |
| 10:45.52 | _joey | sure, there should be something on this usent that attracts so many people |
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| 10:45.58 | _joey | jetscreamer: I see |
| 10:46.07 | xchg | rendi: killall mysqld and then start is as usually |
| 10:46.13 | xchg | rendi: old trick :-) |
| 10:46.14 | jetscreamer | _joey: nntp i think... news |
| 10:46.24 | botsy | the patch for mosix and openmosix it's the same thing ? |
| 10:46.29 | jetscreamer | alt.binaries.whatever |
| 10:46.42 | _joey | jetscreamer: 999 |
| 10:46.43 | _joey | RemarQ Expands network to more than 1,000 Web sites and ISPs Raises $20 million in equity funding from Attractor Investment Management, |
| 10:46.50 | jm_ | _joey: most of those provide binary groups, where you can download all sorts of things |
| 10:46.51 | _joey | http://www.supernews.com/compinfo.html |
| 10:46.58 | Trewas | jetscreamer: all 2GB of memory works with linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7, luxury :) |
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| 10:47.19 | jetscreamer | i want to own uu.net |
| 10:47.40 | epsilon | go ahead |
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| 10:48.35 | jetscreamer | i wonder what would take more cash to own... uunet or msft |
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| 10:48.48 | yosef | jetscreamer: So how come it's not being used? |
| 10:48.56 | _joey | jm_ one ISP in our town is setting up usenet access to their customers by peering directly with supernews network. |
| 10:49.01 | jetscreamer | yosef: it doesn't need any? |
| 10:49.08 | _joey | People are talking about it like it's abig thing that's coming |
| 10:49.21 | jetscreamer | yosef: not sure, but i think that's why |
| 10:49.27 | jetscreamer | it's not like that other os |
| 10:49.55 | yosef | jetscreamer: my memory is being 100% used, but the swap 0.5%, make sense? |
| 10:49.58 | Gnea | ok, i think i found the problem |
| 10:50.13 | chugga | yosef, in that case maybe you should have a rest |
| 10:50.17 | Gnea | jetscreamer: m-a (module assistant) is crap, or i'm not reading the manpage right |
| 10:50.25 | yosef | chugga: a rest? |
| 10:50.27 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes, because linux kernel uses all free memory, but frees it up when needed.. do 'free' |
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| 10:51.04 | jetscreamer | buffers+cache == true free mem |
| 10:51.10 | jetscreamer | or so |
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| 10:52.01 | liable | nice, a linux dvd backupperer like dvd shrink. |
| 10:52.05 | yosef | jetscreamer: so linux is using 45% of my mem, and 0.5% of my swap, does this make sense? |
| 10:52.13 | Gnea | i can apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source=1.0.7676-2 nvidia-glx-dev=1.0.7676-2 but when i run m-a a-i nvidia it goes to download the latest |
| 10:52.14 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes |
| 10:52.20 | xchg | yosef: no, same here |
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| 10:52.33 | yosef | xchg: no? |
| 10:52.35 | Gnea | stupid module assistant |
| 10:52.38 | chugga | will etch minimal install only the minimal stuff you need to get going? no webservers etc? |
| 10:52.41 | jetscreamer | Gnea: i use the nvidia installer :o shhh don't tell anybody |
| 10:52.56 | jetscreamer | chugga: yes you have to tell it to install stuff |
| 10:52.59 | yosef | So why do I need swap? |
| 10:53.01 | Gnea | jetscreamer: i'm trying to use an older nvidia module the debian way |
| 10:53.07 | chugga | jelly-away, oh good |
| 10:53.09 | xchg | yosef: kernel tries to (re)use as much RAM as possible, swapping is rare |
| 10:53.16 | Jake | the latest version of postgres in sarges apt-get's thingo is only 7, if i want too install 8 .. whats my best path?? ie surely just downloading and installing manually without notifying apt is discouraged |
| 10:53.21 | Gnea | !swap |
| 10:53.21 | dpkg | well, swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 10:53.22 | jetscreamer | yosef: i didn't have any swap for a couple months |
| 10:53.34 | jetscreamer | you don't 'have' to have it, but it's nice to have if you do |
| 10:53.44 | yosef | why? because swap is slower? |
| 10:53.56 | Gnea | no, because your system could hardlock without it |
| 10:54.00 | xchg | yosef: when something large will be loaded, the unused portion will be dropped to swap device and the new stuff will substitute the freed memory |
| 10:54.29 | chugga | i have a swap partition. but i dont htink its being used. how cna i check? |
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| 10:54.41 | yosef | thanks a million xchg and jetscreamer... that was real helpful. |
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| 10:54.59 | xchg | yosef: you're welcome :-) |
| 10:55.07 | verso | hi guyz, i need ad information.. |
| 10:55.18 | verso | which mirror can i use to find gnome-core? |
| 10:55.25 | rootmos | is it possible to use ndiswrapper during an installtion? |
| 10:55.34 | verso | is there some how-to to install it? |
| 10:56.10 | epsilon | any mirror should have it |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | # mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | [1] 18719 |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | kapolri:/home/admin# 060112 17:55:42 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '-%' |
| 10:56.47 | verso | epsilon: so why can't i find it? sorry.. i'm noob a lot!! |
| 10:56.56 | xchg | rendi: then try mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:57.01 | pngwn | verso, apt-cache search gnome-core |
| 10:57.05 | epsilon | verso: nothing on "apt-cache search gnome-core"? |
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| 10:57.30 | deadline | what is the 'common' php package to have it available in apache2 ? |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | 060112 17:57:11 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43736 |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | mysqld: ready for connections. |
| 10:57.32 | rendi | and ?? |
| 10:57.35 | verso | sorry guyz.. what is apt-cache ? is just aptitude? |
| 10:57.39 | xchg | rendi: great |
| 10:57.42 | Jake | if i install postgres8 onto my system manually, is there something i need to tell apt? ie so it knows it exists? |
| 10:57.54 | rendi | ? it's error ? |
| 10:57.55 | xchg | rendi: now do mysql |
| 10:58.05 | epsilon | verso: man apt-cache |
| 10:58.07 | rendi | type mysql ? |
| 10:58.12 | xchg | rendi: yes |
| 10:58.13 | chugga | is there a way of checking if i have swap enabled? |
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| 10:58.21 | rendi | mysql |
| 10:58.25 | rendi | blank line |
| 10:58.26 | rendi | and |
| 10:58.26 | epsilon | read the manual and learn for the life |
| 10:58.32 | xchg | rendi: and type USE mysql; |
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| 10:58.44 | epsilon | chugga: free? |
| 10:58.48 | rendi | blank again and ? |
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| 10:59.16 | xchg | rendi: DESCRIBE mysql; - does it say something ? |
| 10:59.23 | chugga | epsilon, oh i see. so it seems it is being used |
| 10:59.24 | chugga | :) |
| 10:59.38 | pngwn | verso, http://debian.org/doc |
| 10:59.41 | rendi | ya don't say anything |
| 10:59.44 | rendi | blank |
| 10:59.56 | verso | pngwn: thank you.. i'll read it!!! :) |
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| 11:00.54 | xchg | rendi: then i just don't know what's happening there. you can give me an aceess and i'll fix it for you if you want, but it's quite unsecure :-) |
| 11:01.11 | rendi | blah |
| 11:01.19 | xchg | better idea |
| 11:01.21 | xchg | http://www.netadmintools.com/art90.html |
| 11:01.27 | xchg | read this fine manual :-) |
| 11:01.43 | rendi | ok |
| 11:02.01 | jetscreamer | verso: it's kind of a way to search for packages |
| 11:02.13 | jetscreamer | if not other things i don't know about |
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| 11:03.24 | jetscreamer | but apt-get install gnome-core should function |
| 11:03.48 | jetscreamer | or aptitude install gnome-core maybe (but i don't know how to use aptitude) |
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| 11:09.33 | rambo3 | dselect |
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| 11:09.46 | jetscreamer | rambo3++ |
| 11:10.12 | rambo3 | i just can figure how someone would put that on instal cd |
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| 11:11.16 | jetscreamer | i can't figure out why anybody would make aptitude instead of making dselect more pretty and enduser friendly |
| 11:11.30 | jetscreamer | but there's lots of wheels out there |
| 11:13.19 | boxy | jetscreamer, just run aptitude without any arugs |
| 11:15.20 | dusty- | How do I setup sound in debian? |
| 11:16.12 | muttix | install alsa-base and the you run alsaconf |
| 11:16.16 | xchg | dusty-: you want use ALSA or OSS ? |
| 11:16.28 | deadline | mdadm has to be added to the boot runlevel right? |
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| 11:17.45 | fireba11 | anyone knows a tool to monitor HD usage like top does for CPU and memory ? |
| 11:19.11 | _joey | could someone recommend news reader to download |
| 11:19.28 | _joey | I need it to be console based and suitable for downloading binaries :) |
| 11:19.32 | rambo3 | i fixed serial cable link , now what , where do i find shared folders . |
| 11:19.36 | xchg | _joey: slrn |
| 11:19.45 | xchg | _joey: the best & must have :-)) |
| 11:19.50 | epsilon | fireba11: gkrellm? |
| 11:19.59 | dusty- | xchg, Which do you recommend? |
| 11:20.11 | jetscreamer | boxy: i forgot to mention how much i don't like aptitude :/ |
| 11:20.25 | xchg | dusty-: i would like recommend alsa |
| 11:20.37 | jetscreamer | even i finally am an alsa convert |
| 11:20.48 | dusty- | xchg, Ok, then alsa it is :) |
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| 11:21.07 | xchg | dusty-: oss is pretty old architecture for now IMHO |
| 11:21.11 | xchg | (but stable :-) |
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| 11:21.24 | ootput | there's always alsa-oss |
| 11:21.24 | dusty- | xchg, Ahh I see. |
| 11:21.26 | ootput | :) |
| 11:21.29 | ootput | or aoss |
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| 11:21.37 | dusty- | xchg, How would I configure sound using Alsa then? |
| 11:21.45 | jm_ | fireba11: gkrellm |
| 11:21.45 | xchg | dusty-: just run alsaconf |
| 11:21.51 | jetscreamer | alsaconf is in alsa-base |
| 11:21.55 | jetscreamer | or alsabase |
| 11:21.57 | dusty- | thankyou |
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| 11:22.01 | xchg | dusty-: it will do all the work for you in 99% of cases |
| 11:22.24 | dusty- | thanks alot. |
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| 11:22.32 | xchg | you're welcome :-) |
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| 11:23.45 | fireba11 | jm_ will have a look, thanks |
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| 11:25.00 | fireba11 | jm_ no good ... need sonething for headless server, so no window manager present |
| 11:25.06 | jm_ | fireba11: iostat should also help |
| 11:25.14 | jm_ | fireba11: you can use gkrellm for that too |
| 11:26.45 | incorrect | i was using a tool that gave me a view of the system usage, can't think what it was called |
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| 11:27.05 | fireba11 | jm_ okay .. *researching* |
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| 11:27.47 | Gnea | ok, bug report submitted. |
| 11:27.59 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 11:28.29 | Gnea | !dbugs #343186 |
| 11:28.32 | dpkg | #343186:[nvidia-kernel-source] nvidia-kernel-source 8174 Fails to load proper with 2.6.1[234]; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:03:08 UTC |
| 11:28.32 | jetscreamer | hey what's the name of the program that makes a hash of your password so you can put it in a text conf file |
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| 11:28.53 | Gnea | htpasswd? |
| 11:28.59 | mo1991 | what is a good tracert program for debian - |
| 11:29.02 | twb | I'm making a package that needs to know little/big endianness and 32/64 bitness. How can I test for these in debian/rules? |
| 11:29.06 | Gnea | traceroute |
| 11:29.15 | jetscreamer | no just for mail not apache.. or was that an answer |
| 11:29.36 | Gnea | jetscreamer: it has multiple uses |
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| 11:29.50 | Gnea | if the hash is what you're after then htpasswd can provide it |
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| 11:30.55 | jetscreamer | it's in the apache2-utils... |
| 11:31.11 | jetscreamer | !depends apache2-utils |
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| 11:31.59 | jetscreamer | there was another i used once a year ago i think |
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| 11:32.24 | jm_ | mkpasswd, or perl -e ... or ... |
| 11:33.10 | dpkg | apache2-utils: depends on libapr0 (>= 2.0.55), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdb4.3 (>= 4.3.28-1), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1), libpcre3 (>= 4.5), libssl0.9.8, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
| 11:33.17 | dimir | huh. |
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| 11:33.30 | jetscreamer | heh dpkg slow connection |
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| 11:35.07 | fooz | modeling hands is hard |
| 11:35.12 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
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| 11:35.27 | jetscreamer | one of the harder |
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| 11:35.42 | vl_bright_again | hi |
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| 11:38.10 | jetscreamer | omg |
| 11:38.10 | dvm1981 | it's the ATI i would like to get working and not the NVidea |
| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
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| 00:02.42 | Kofif | ok thenr |
| 00:02.57 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: or, better, apt-get remove --purge proftpd |
| 00:02.58 | seba | stew: yes, i try. but it's has it's own problems too. |
| 00:03.03 | Kofif | regarding the kernel panic msg im keep getting , what should i change / fix then in the menuconfig ? |
| 00:03.23 | stew | ask #samba |
| 00:03.26 | stew | seba: ^^ |
| 00:03.27 | _tjansson | Malagmyr: was does --purge do? |
| 00:03.37 | _tjansson | thx btw stew |
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| 00:03.39 | Kofif | _tjansson erases |
| 00:03.46 | seba | stew: je je, thanks. |
| 00:03.50 | stew | _tjansson: --purge also removes the configuration |
| 00:03.57 | _tjansson | nice |
| 00:04.01 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: read the manual :) It removes some config files and stuff that might not be removed otherwise. Nothing bad anyway. |
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| 00:04.40 | _tjansson | a RTFM :D - time for me to go to bed then :D |
| 00:04.48 | _tjansson | but thx anyways :D |
| 00:04.58 | Kofif | well im getting VFS problem kernel panic , about the root , where exactly should i look in the kernel menuconfig ? |
| 00:05.05 | seba | join #samba |
| 00:05.13 | stew | Kofif: you ide chipset and your root filesystem |
| 00:05.17 | afabian | Malagmyr, the platters are usually readable, it's the motor and such that typically fails. |
| 00:05.24 | Kofif | ide chipset , ok |
| 00:05.27 | Kofif | my filesystem is ext2 |
| 00:05.28 | z36ra | in konqeror, what would cause left-dblclick not to open a text file, but right-click-open in-kwrite works fine? |
| 00:05.43 | stew | Kofif: and they need to be compled in, not compiled as modules |
| 00:05.43 | dusty- | jelly, can u tell me the correct host for httpd as ftp was ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org ? |
| 00:05.48 | afabian | You shouldn't let your strategy give you a false sense of security. It sounds about as bad as "no plan." Because the data recovery fees are .. much more expensive than backups. |
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| 00:05.55 | jelly | dusty-: uh, the same? |
| 00:05.55 | dusty- | jelly, should I change it to http://uk.debian.org? |
| 00:06.06 | jelly | dusty-: no, leave it as-is. |
| 00:06.06 | z36ra | help please. |
| 00:06.07 | dargeer | hi - anyone compile iptables from source tar? |
| 00:06.11 | dusty- | ok |
| 00:06.17 | Kofif | where is the ide chipset value hides ? |
| 00:06.21 | epsilon | dargeer: i did once |
| 00:06.24 | jelly | dusty-: just change the protocol and try again. |
| 00:06.37 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: ever priced recovery jobs at, e.g., ontrack.com? |
| 00:06.39 | afabian | Malagmyr, you might be able to do something with LVM, partition the disk into three separate partitions with parity information like a RAID 5 array. But modern drives already tend to transparently hide bad-sector errors. |
| 00:06.47 | benjamindees | Kofif, block devices |
| 00:06.48 | dusty- | worked, thanks jelly |
| 00:06.51 | stew | Kofif: block devices |
| 00:06.56 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? I have put all info about it here http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:07.04 | eeyore- | much better off investing in another hard drive and back up stuff to it periodically |
| 00:07.09 | andax | Kofif: give the kernel the correct root=/dev/hdXY parameter |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | afabian: sure, but not always completely, just badly enough for regular software not to read it correctly. Like, I recently used a windows program to recover files from my brothers old drive which was spinning down without warning every 10 seconds. The program just sat there and started it up and continued. Took a few hours, but it worked. That was on NTFS. I need a more linux-compatible filesystem than that, which has similar programs |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:07.19 | stew | hawking: show us the actual output from apt-get remove |
| 00:07.35 | stew | hawking: use a pastebin, don't paste here |
| 00:07.38 | Kofif | cant seem to find that value |
| 00:07.40 | dargeer | epsilon - the install says to give the location of the kernel in the make line - but does a 'make' by itself give a good compile? |
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| 00:07.42 | z36ra | fresh Sarge install and dble-click in Konqeror wont open a text file in /usr/share/doc. |
| 00:07.47 | z36ra | whats up? |
| 00:07.49 | Kofif | its 2.6.15 ( was originaly ) |
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| 00:07.57 | eeyore- | hawking: short answer, modify the pre/post-remove scripts (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) and add "exit 0" after the first #/... line |
| 00:07.58 | andax | Kofif: /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf |
| 00:08.22 | Kofif | andax we are talking about kernel compile config mate. |
| 00:08.23 | stew | Kofif: device drivers -> ata |
| 00:08.29 | hawking | eeyore - trying |
| 00:08.33 | z36ra | Anyone else have that problem when installing from DVD? |
| 00:08.39 | jelly | dusty-: your firewall doesn't pass passive ftp connections. You might want to investigate and correct the configuration. |
| 00:08.50 | g33k | thanks for the zip help...How do I get this command that i use to start my gameserver to contiue running after I close putty |
| 00:09.04 | dusty- | jelly, thats normal and its too much of a hastly |
| 00:09.07 | dusty- | http is fine |
| 00:09.10 | g33k | I noticed that the gameserver closes when I close putty |
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| 00:09.12 | stew | g33k: use screen |
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| 00:09.15 | z36ra | Im gonna go out on a limb and say nobody is listening to me. |
| 00:09.28 | g33k | ok that was in the tutorial |
| 00:09.29 | epsilon | g33k: screen or fork |
| 00:09.37 | stew | z36ra: ask in #debian-kde |
| 00:09.41 | eeyore- | z36ra: or, we don't have your problem :-> |
| 00:09.42 | Kofif | well i got an MSI combo-2 motherboard , should have then just about every option / module included right ? |
| 00:09.47 | g33k | so how do I get back to that screen when I log in again? |
| 00:09.48 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:09.55 | eeyore- | z36ra: you do know about double-click speed, right? |
| 00:09.57 | andax | Kofif: type lspci and check for the chipset you have |
| 00:09.58 | epsilon | screen -r |
| 00:10.06 | z36ra | stew, thanx... good suggestion |
| 00:10.12 | Kofif | good idea hang on ! , |
| 00:10.16 | g33k | screen -r gives you a list or somethin? |
| 00:10.43 | epsilon | g33k: RTFM |
| 00:10.43 | stew | g33k: screen -ls |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | k that makes sense |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | cool |
| 00:10.47 | Kofif | ahh good to be back with linux, its all comeing back too me now :] i had a long time off from computers used to be a bash geek :] |
| 00:10.58 | Malagmyr | Are there programs similar to EasyRecovery available for Linux? |
| 00:11.07 | epsilon | g33k: if you prefer to refuse reading manual pages, stay with windows ot suse |
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| 00:11.30 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: i don't see a reason why you need a "recovery" program ... |
| 00:11.45 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's a hardware failure, no software is gonna fix that |
| 00:12.20 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: and if the hardware doesn't fail "enough" for software to still function, why then, you still don't need a software besides dd/dd_rescue |
| 00:12.24 | epsilon | what does EasyRecovery do? |
| 00:12.29 | andax | it sales |
| 00:12.33 | Kofif | lspci gives me a lot of intel :] |
| 00:12.42 | Kofif | so i belive i should go for intel. |
| 00:12.50 | andax | Kofif: so you need to put * for all intel |
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| 00:13.18 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: those programs do work in some cases. i just wanted the filesystem on the new machine to be easy to recover stuff from in such cases. just an idea i got, really. |
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| 00:13.52 | Kofif | yes andax i know , thank you :] |
| 00:13.53 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: admirable, won't work. backup/restore is your real choice. |
| 00:14.12 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: say a drive suddenly got bad sectors in the directory thingy part that says where all the files are, those programs can scan the drive and still find most of the files. |
| 00:14.14 | g33k | saying screen not found |
| 00:14.21 | Kofif | ok doing make ! |
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| 00:14.33 | stew | g33k: apt-get install screen... |
| 00:14.39 | stew | Kofif: /msg dpkg kp |
| 00:14.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: but, you do have backup superblocks |
| 00:14.57 | benjamindees | Malagmyr, ext2 is probably your best bet |
| 00:15.06 | falkon | I'm very confused right now. I installed a package that says it was compiled with the -lcrypt option and the password in the configuration file must be encrypted. how do I do this with makepasswd? |
| 00:15.07 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: regardless of what filesystem I use and they all make the same amount? |
| 00:15.10 | g33k | opps had the syntax backwards... I tried apt-get screen install...c you guys are making progress |
| 00:15.16 | Kofif | something new stew ? |
| 00:15.18 | g33k | I tried something first |
| 00:15.23 | Malagmyr | ext2 it is, then |
| 00:15.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, just don't let it give you any sense of security. At all. If the data is important enough to worry about, come up with a real plan. But, yeah, ext2. |
| 00:15.26 | hawking | eeyore : I did what you said but that didn't work |
| 00:15.59 | stew | Kofif: no, its old |
| 00:16.03 | hawking | eeyore : I still get the same errors :(( |
| 00:16.25 | Kofif | never used that, |
| 00:16.31 | stew | hawking: we could help you a log better if you show us the actual errors |
| 00:16.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: no, ext2 |
| 00:16.42 | stew | ^g^t |
| 00:16.52 | epsilon | why not ext3 |
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| 00:16.57 | Solet | is there a command to make an iso similar to the tar command? where you give it your directory to make the tar out of, and the output path/filename of your finished tarball and it makes it? |
| 00:17.01 | eeyore- | hawking: time to be more specific. what package is it, and, which file did you modify, and how? |
| 00:17.01 | hawking | stew : did you see my paste? |
| 00:17.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, might want to use the drive's SMART reporting. |
| 00:17.25 | stew | hawking: no, where did you put it? |
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| 00:17.37 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs |
| 00:17.38 | robertj | heya all, does anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt? |
| 00:17.40 | Malagmyr | afabian: that's already set up :) |
| 00:17.44 | stew | hawking: oh, you said you put it on channels.debian.net but didn't give us the url |
| 00:17.48 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:17.54 | hawking | stew : oops sorry |
| 00:17.57 | eeyore- | epsilon: ext3 = ext2 + journal, so it goes without saying :-) |
| 00:17.58 | g33k | That screen install is asking for the debian cd...right now i'm by the server but what do I do if I'm not..can you make it get files from the internet? |
| 00:17.59 | Solet | benjamindees:thx |
| 00:18.05 | stew | hawking: no, it should end with a number |
| 00:18.06 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1537 |
| 00:18.11 | hawking | stew : this is it |
| 00:18.21 | metaperl | so given that gcc has been updated for Debian/testing, when can I expect an upgrade of amarok? we are 2 major versions back |
| 00:18.48 | epsilon | metaperl: when it's done [tm] |
| 00:18.51 | jason^ | heh |
| 00:18.59 | hawking | eeyore - it's a package called lale ( lale.sourceforge.net ) it's a turkish-english dictionary file I put "exit 0" to the second lines of lale.postrm lale.postinst and lale.prerm |
| 00:19.00 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's important enough, it's important enough to mirror on at least one other hardware. i mirror my important files (family photos, etc.) in three places |
| 00:19.19 | metaperl | epsilon: :) |
| 00:19.23 | eeyore- | hawking: and what's the result of trying to remove the package? |
| 00:19.26 | Kofif | stew what do i need this kp for actualy ? , i already know to make ; make install; vi /etc/lilo.conf;/bin/lilo -v;reboot |
| 00:19.41 | z36ra | stew, #debian-kde is dead as a doggon door-knob... hehe |
| 00:19.43 | jason^ | so gnome-applets got updated but not gnome-panel, and gnome-panel is the deps |
| 00:19.47 | hawking | eeyore - still same error |
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| 00:20.09 | z36ra | I dbl-click on a file in /usr/share/doc.. in konqeror and kwrite never opens. but if I right-click->open in->kwrite, it opens fine. What could the problem be? |
| 00:20.16 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: it's not that important. I keep such things on my desktop pc, which uses a mirrored hardware raid setup, while also rsyncing with an online server |
| 00:20.39 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: anyway. I'm using ext2 on that new machine now. thanks for the help :) |
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| 00:21.14 | z36ra | and yes, my mouse-speed is set correctly, eeyore- |
| 00:21.22 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:21.22 | eeyore- | hawking: if i were you i'd edit the pre/post-install scripts too, same way :-) then force a reinstall, (and make sure your shortcut haven't been overwritten by reinstall). basically you just want dpkg to just STFU and install it first, so you could uninstall it. |
| 00:21.53 | chealer | z36ra: ask #debian-kde |
| 00:21.58 | benjamindees | z36ra, right-click, properties, click on little wrench, what does it list in application preference order? |
| 00:22.04 | eeyore- | hawking: classic debian chicken-and-egg problem where you can't uninstall if it hasn't been fully installed |
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| 00:22.48 | eeyore- | and the corresponding --remove |
| 00:22.51 | hawking | eeyore - package is not in repositories I installed it from a deb file |
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| 00:23.04 | eeyore- | hawking: same thing |
| 00:23.20 | hawking | so should i do apt-get install --STFU package.deb? |
| 00:23.29 | Kofif | lol |
| 00:23.32 | eeyore- | hawking: no, there really isn't an --stfu option :-) |
| 00:23.40 | benjamindees | z36ra, then click on embedding, what does it say for left-click action? |
| 00:23.41 | Kofif | well |
| 00:23.45 | Kofif | we can make one |
| 00:23.47 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/i/want/iso/of/ -abstract /image.iso is the command to build everything in the directory "/dir/i/want/iso/of/" into an iso at root called "image.iso"? |
| 00:23.50 | Kofif | kinda easy :] |
| 00:23.57 | kspath | so true |
| 00:24.01 | eeyore- | hawking: look. let's look at your problem logically. |
| 00:24.02 | hawking | there is no solution and everyone is making fun of that |
| 00:24.10 | hawking | eeyore - sure |
| 00:24.15 | eeyore- | hawking: what's the problem? package can't be uninstalled, right? |
| 00:24.20 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.23 | eeyore- | hawking: because it hasn't been fully installed, right? |
| 00:24.30 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
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| 00:24.40 | Kofif | apt-get install -f ? |
| 00:24.44 | eeyore- | hawking: so, the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* is failing right? (specifically pre/post install) |
| 00:24.50 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.52 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how to make the script not fail? |
| 00:25.05 | eeyore- | hawking: you can either debug them, or, just exit out early with 0 return code, right? |
| 00:25.05 | Kofif | or -f install even |
| 00:25.12 | benjamindees | Solet, no, you don't need -abstract |
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| 00:25.29 | benjamindees | Solet, you need -o filename.iso |
| 00:25.30 | eeyore- | hawking: but, when you "dpkg -i foo.deb", you also unpack the package (including scripts), right? |
| 00:25.40 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/ -o image.iso |
| 00:25.46 | eeyore- | hawking: so if you edited the scripts as they exist now, they will be overwritten by "dpkg -i", right? |
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| 00:25.53 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how do you solve that? |
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| 00:26.09 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs -o image.iso /dir/ |
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| 00:26.22 | eeyore- | hawking: can you see the problem, and its solution, in step-by-step order? |
| 00:26.22 | Solet | thanks |
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| 00:26.43 | myamarti | What is the status of Creative Soundblaster X-Fi support |
| 00:27.02 | star-trekio | jesus |
| 00:27.07 | dos000 | anyone know (or have expereence) for an out of band management console that has like 8/16 ports for configuring servers ? |
| 00:27.14 | star-trekio | I don't know if I'm smart enuf to be a lnux admin any more |
| 00:27.24 | star-trekio | I really don't know anything |
| 00:27.28 | star-trekio | it's horrible |
| 00:27.30 | star-trekio | :( |
| 00:27.42 | eeyore- | dos000: lots of people sell serial terminal servers .... |
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| 00:27.47 | sexy_girl | http://neoh59.free.fr/sphpblog/images/mypic.exe <--take look my sexy pic and dont forget vote for it |
| 00:27.51 | Kofif | why are you saying that ? |
| 00:28.02 | eeyore- | dos000: unless you want to simulate keyboard/screen, then it gets real expensive |
| 00:28.11 | Kofif | LOL right .exe botnet file in a linux channel, very smart :] |
| 00:28.27 | eeyore- | oooh, an .exe |
| 00:28.28 | Tchiak | :P |
| 00:28.29 | benjamindees | heh |
| 00:28.32 | eeyore- | riiiiiight |
| 00:28.34 | sabin | i need help with tv tuner for ati radeon all in wonder |
| 00:28.41 | Kofif | that's a smart person lol |
| 00:28.42 | eeyore- | call it "mypic.scr", why don't you? |
| 00:28.43 | dos000 | eeyore-, i just want to login remotly from a different port and not have to drive 400 km to the data center |
| 00:28.48 | sabin | if anyone has that working could you please msg me |
| 00:29.04 | eeyore- | dos000: if it's just *one* machine, sure, www.pc-weasel.com |
| 00:29.16 | diana | sabin: I have it working. |
| 00:29.34 | dos000 | eeyore-, its more than one machine .. at least 7 of them |
| 00:29.42 | sabin | diana, cool, can u tell me what you installed, i compiled and loaded that km thing from the gatos project, but no luck |
| 00:29.47 | eeyore- | dos9: buy seven cards :-) |
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| 00:30.33 | diana | sabin: /join #mythtv-users |
| 00:30.41 | Kofif | get a KVM |
| 00:31.07 | sabin | diana, thanks |
| 00:31.15 | eeyore- | Kofif: kvm doesn't, unfortunately, send your input/output over the internet |
| 00:31.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: unless you buy the super-expensive ones that will relay VGA output |
| 00:31.35 | zinx | eeyore-: that's what synergy is for |
| 00:31.41 | Kofif | pptp > internet > kvm |
| 00:31.43 | zinx | eeyore-: uhm, oh |
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| 00:31.49 | afaik | hello fols |
| 00:31.52 | afaik | afaik here |
| 00:31.53 | zinx | eeyore-: video could be a problem :D |
| 00:31.56 | Kofif | im talking about the super expensive one :] |
| 00:32.00 | dos000 | eeyore-, the video is not important here. if i can login via the serial port i am fine |
| 00:32.12 | eeyore- | zinx: and don't forget the bare-metal cases where he needs bios, no os, etc. |
| 00:32.17 | Kofif | my friend has it on his boxes , pretty nice setup. |
| 00:32.20 | afaik | is there a way to limit my own bandwidth? My computer sucks up all the internet and leaves not one drop for the roommates |
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| 00:32.23 | diana | !ops *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.28 | eeyore- | dos000: so buy a serial terminal server already :-) |
| 00:32.29 | zinx | i'm not entirely sure what he's trying to do |
| 00:32.39 | zinx | but it sounds like ssh or vnc would be the best bet :/ |
| 00:32.42 | dos000 | eeyore-, wich one ... any recomendations ? |
| 00:32.45 | dvs | afaik: And the problem is.... ;-) |
| 00:32.50 | RichiH | hmm |
| 00:32.58 | eeyore- | zinx: you can't do ssh/vnc unless/until your OS is up :-) |
| 00:33.02 | afaik | I mean, my roomates will be doing something online, I download something, BAM! My download speed is 90kB/s, theirs drops down to lie 1B/s |
| 00:33.04 | afaik | er |
| 00:33.06 | dondelelcaro | diana: there doesn't appear to be anyone here with that hostmask. |
| 00:33.07 | afaik | 1 kb/s |
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| 00:33.15 | helix | yeah, sexy_girl is gone |
| 00:33.16 | Kofif | VNC is a bad idea |
| 00:33.24 | helix | but haha at spamming windows viruses in a linux channel |
| 00:33.28 | afaik | for some reason my computer get priority |
| 00:33.29 | RichiH | klined |
| 00:33.41 | eeyore- | dos000: you have so many choices. pick the ones that advertise in linux magazine. cyclades, commtrol, for example |
| 00:33.41 | zinx | eeyore-: yeah, but exporting any sort of built-in console is a pretty bad idea unless it's via a local box |
| 00:33.44 | diana | dondelelcaro: /lastlog sexy_girl |
| 00:33.45 | helix | mmm, wine |
| 00:33.55 | dondelelcaro | diana: yeah, RichiH already klined it. |
| 00:34.05 | cafuego | helix: Speaking of you, women.alioth... is on the Jnuary LinuxFormat UK. |
| 00:34.05 | eeyore- | dos000: sorry, comtrol.com |
| 00:34.08 | cafuego | s/on/in/ |
| 00:34.09 | andax | afaik: google for "wondershaper" the first hit is the answer |
| 00:34.10 | helix | woo |
| 00:34.19 | afaik | thans |
| 00:34.30 | cafuego | blah |
| 00:34.30 | dondelelcaro | foo |
| 00:34.33 | dondelelcaro | s/foo/bar/ |
| 00:34.38 | dondelelcaro | ok, that's really freaking annoying... |
| 00:34.39 | cafuego | s/blah/that I am annoying when I use this feature/ |
| 00:34.40 | eeyore- | zinx: right, so you have a serial terminal server, plugged into the serial management ports, the terminal server itself has password control ... |
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| 00:34.57 | jpriest | psmouse.o seems to be missing from my kernel 2.4 that was installed with my network installed debian 3.1. Did I misunderstand something somewhere? |
| 00:35.18 | zinx | eeyore-: unencrypted password control |
| 00:35.20 | afaik | not apt-gettable? |
| 00:35.20 | eeyore- | zinx: and since the terminal server is TCP/IP, you can do whatever firewalling you want :-) |
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| 00:35.50 | eeyore- | zinx: you can even put the terminal server behind a VPN, and do your authentication in multiple layers |
| 00:35.52 | zinx | eeyore-: and nothing reasonably priced is going to have something that's encrypted before bootup |
| 00:36.01 | z36ra | benjamindees, konq aint working at all now. |
| 00:36.09 | Kofif | eeyore->that's what i told him .. |
| 00:36.10 | zinx | eeyore-: and that would be the "via a local box" approach |
| 00:36.11 | Kofif | PPTP |
| 00:36.32 | cafuego | pptp is nice & insecure. |
| 00:36.37 | Kofif | pptp get a local ip and the vnc or whatever will work only on your LAN ip class. |
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| 00:36.39 | dos000 | eeyore-, do i need to set something specific in the servers (debian sarge) to outpu the login via rs232 ? |
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| 00:36.49 | Kofif | why insecure ? you got something to tell us about ? |
| 00:36.54 | dondelelcaro | dos000: no, you just need a console on that serial port |
| 00:36.55 | eeyore- | dos000: it's your motherboard bios that does that. tyan motherboard? |
| 00:37.03 | khermans_ | Anyone know why my ~/.bashrm is not running when I SSH into my box? |
| 00:37.05 | cafuego | Kofif: Yeah, the encryption is uses is flawed. |
| 00:37.11 | khermans_ | *.bashrc |
| 00:37.18 | dos000 | eeyore-, they are ibm 336 pizza boxes |
| 00:37.21 | cafuego | Kofif: vnc works fine through a secure ssh tunnel. |
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| 00:37.36 | benjamindees | z36ra, ... because? |
| 00:37.52 | dondelelcaro | dos000: FE, uncomment #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100; if the rs232 is ttyS0 |
| 00:38.46 | Kofif | Ok Ok done kernel recompile |
| 00:38.49 | eeyore- | dos000: well, if the bios itself doesn't support from-cold-boot output to serial port, there's only so much you can do. you have to wait for the OS to be somewhat up before you can any login. |
| 00:38.56 | staniel | im trying to set up dnsmasq, but ti seems to not be responding to DHCP requests |
| 00:38.58 | Kofif | configured everything , hope it will work ! :] |
| 00:39.03 | eeyore- | dos000: are you getting what we're trying to tell you? :-) |
| 00:39.19 | Kofif | again |
| 00:39.21 | Kofif | same error |
| 00:39.22 | Kofif | :| |
| 00:39.25 | Kofif | something is funny here |
| 00:39.33 | abrotman | funny how? |
| 00:39.36 | eeyore- | dos000: in other words, what's the benefit of serial login? if you had to wait for the OS to be up and running, you might as well ssh. |
| 00:39.40 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- i see that i need to change init scripts line. but i missed what the FE is for ! |
| 00:39.47 | dondelelcaro | dos000: For Example. |
| 00:39.51 | Kofif | i have reconfigured everything exactly as everybody adviced |
| 00:39.57 | Kofif | and again same error |
| 00:40.04 | Kofif | root |
| 00:40.06 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can get it to work with a serial console from grub loading on. |
| 00:40.30 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, do you have experience with ibm hardware ? |
| 00:40.32 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you just need to have grub connect to the serial console, and then the kernel use a serial console until login takes over. |
| 00:40.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: but you still can't do certain things like rebooting, for instance |
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| 00:40.43 | Lee__ | dose the sarge xorg backport contain the ati driver with 3d accelleration? |
| 00:40.46 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can't do that with a serial console anyway |
| 00:40.54 | benjamindees | Kofif, please find out exactly what your ide chipset is. |
| 00:41.06 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: with the pc-weasel you could get interactivity from bios boot on up ... |
| 00:41.18 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: including remote reboot |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | why is he not using a debian kernel ? |
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| 00:41.38 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yes, but that requires bios support, and it's no longer just a serial console. |
| 00:41.47 | dos000 | eeyore-, i dont think i can add a pci card to these systems :-( |
| 00:41.47 | Kofif | abrotman dose problem for my machine the keyboard dosnt work with it . |
| 00:42.10 | g33k | how do I exit a screen without closing my putty session? |
| 00:42.14 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: in most cases, grub+kernel+login and a remotely restartable power plug are good enough |
| 00:42.16 | z36ra | i'm out |
| 00:42.18 | z36ra | later |
| 00:42.20 | Kofif | g33k ctrl + a + d |
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| 00:42.25 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: otherwise you need one of the cool add in PCI cards that does the whole thing |
| 00:42.26 | abrotman | how do you recompile a kernel if your keyboard doesn't work ? |
| 00:42.35 | dos000 | eeyore-, hopefully i can get a machine stable enough to send a reboot via the eth |
| 00:42.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: that's the minimum for avoiding having to drive to work :-) (remote power socket) |
| 00:42.38 | Kofif | abrotman with the old one . |
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| 00:42.50 | Kofif | 2.2 |
| 00:42.51 | g33k | thanx |
| 00:42.56 | abrotman | Kofif: does 2.6.8 not support your kernel ? |
| 00:43.07 | Kofif | not working right on my system |
| 00:43.19 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yeah, it really just depends what you can afford; I'd much rather have it all than just a serial console... but a serial console is quite useful IME. |
| 00:43.25 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, what do i need to change in grub ? |
| 00:44.16 | dondelelcaro | dos000: you need a serial --unit=0 --speed=38400; terminal --timeout=10 console serial; or similar in your menu.lst |
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| 00:44.25 | abrotman | err not support your keyboard :) |
| 00:44.31 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then your kernel line needs to have a console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400; or similar. |
| 00:44.34 | FarrisG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.59 | abrotman | !info vncserver sarge |
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| 00:45.08 | dpkg | vncserver: (Virtual network computing server software), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.3.7-7 (sarge), Packaged size: 480 kB, Installed size: 1136 kB |
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| 00:45.11 | randomity | /join #perl |
| 00:45.27 | messia | randomity, :D |
| 00:45.28 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- thanks you guys. now i know what to google for ! |
| 00:45.35 | randomity | woops |
| 00:45.35 | khermans_ | Would anyone know why ~/.bashrc wouldn't execute on an SSH login? |
| 00:45.50 | abrotman | khermans_: did you read the file or .bash_profile ? |
| 00:46.03 | threat | khermans_, your shell isnt bash? |
| 00:46.04 | eeyore- | KVM-over-IP, http://www.kvms.com/startech_kvm_over_ip_switches.asp $2900 :-)))) |
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| 00:46.06 | dondelelcaro | khermans_: because .bashrc isn't executed on a login shell. man bash; |
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| 00:46.33 | threat | khermans_, I belive .profile is executed on logon though |
| 00:46.39 | eeyore- | that's a lot of mileage reimbursements |
| 00:46.47 | Kofif | check out /etc/skel |
| 00:46.56 | ryan` | is it possible to hardlink directories? |
| 00:47.03 | randomity | ryan`, no. |
| 00:47.11 | sagar_ | how come i cant find xserver-xorg on any of the stable repositories?? is it only in testing or something? |
| 00:47.14 | Kofif | err again kernel panic :[ |
| 00:47.18 | khermans_ | threat, the shell is bash |
| 00:47.19 | randomity | ryan`, why do you want to anyway? Symlinks are better |
| 00:47.29 | threat | ryan`, no, a hardlink is a directory in the sense of the inode table :) |
| 00:47.31 | Kofif | unable to mount root fs on unknown block |
| 00:47.46 | Kofif | why WHY WHY ! :[ what am i doing wrong |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | khermans_: you were given two answers |
| 00:47.58 | abrotman | well .. mine was more of a self help thing .. |
| 00:48.01 | randomity | Kofif, what's wrong? |
| 00:48.05 | threat | khermans_, yes, .bash_profile and .profile |
| 00:48.10 | eeyore- | Kofif: well, it's either the driver or the filesystem ... remember? |
| 00:48.16 | Kofif | VFS |
| 00:48.23 | Kofif | yeah well i got both configured |
| 00:48.24 | eeyore- | Kofif: did you remember to compile in the driver into the kernel? ext2? |
| 00:48.25 | threat | VFS is great |
| 00:48.31 | khermans_ | threat, if I use ~/.profile, will that also apply to other shells ? |
| 00:48.32 | Kofif | yes. |
| 00:48.33 | eeyore- | Kofif: prove it to me, baby |
| 00:48.36 | ryan` | randomity: I'm doing some development with subversion, keeping both a code tree and a base filesystem in svn. I can't use symlinks because svn handles them in a special way |
| 00:48.40 | randomity | e |
| 00:48.44 | abrotman | khermans_: did you even read what dondelelcaro said? |
| 00:48.48 | khermans_ | abrotman, yes |
| 00:49.01 | abrotman | khermans_: then you have your answer .. .bashrc will not work .. use .bash_profile |
| 00:49.03 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:49.04 | khermans_ | abauer, i am manning bash right now |
| 00:49.08 | threat | khermans_, I dont know :) man profile? but you can also have a if statement in there, if [ $TERM == "bash" ] or something |
| 00:49.39 | Kofif | :\ |
| 00:49.43 | abrotman | threat: he's been given the answer |
| 00:49.51 | threat | abrotman, ok :) |
| 00:49.54 | Kofif | i have selected |
| 00:49.57 | Kofif | every fs |
| 00:50.03 | abrotman | hrm .. what to eat |
| 00:50.05 | hborger | is there any way to pass artsd audioserver traffic through ssh |
| 00:50.08 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:50.12 | Kofif | hang on |
| 00:50.24 | randomity | hborger, does it run over TCP? |
| 00:50.27 | Kofif | whats the value name ? |
| 00:50.29 | staniel | could anyone help me with dnsmasq? |
| 00:50.34 | hborger | randomity, is that a trick question? |
| 00:50.46 | eeyore- | Kofif: CONFIG_EXT2_FS |
| 00:50.52 | Kofif | ok |
| 00:50.52 | khermans_ | hborger, yeah link it up with ssh |
| 00:50.54 | pureone | staniel: just state the problem :) |
| 00:50.57 | Kofif | let me reboot |
| 00:50.59 | Kofif | 2 secs |
| 00:51.05 | sagar_ | is xserver-xorg even on the debian servers at all? |
| 00:51.11 | randomity | hborger, no, I don't know. If it's TCP, you can use SSH, if it's UDP, you can't |
| 00:51.11 | Kofif | err im going to get a smoke , this will be fixed TODAY |
| 00:51.20 | eeyore- | Kofif: nine minutes |
| 00:51.25 | Kofif | time is : 02:51:24 AM |
| 00:51.28 | hborger | khermans_, I asked here cuz i couldn't find anythingonmy own, got any links? |
| 00:51.29 | abrotman | smoking is kind of like rebooting :) |
| 00:51.32 | eventide | sagar_: topic? |
| 00:51.36 | hborger | abrotman, lol |
| 00:51.47 | eeyore- | abrotman: not coma? |
| 00:51.51 | khermans_ | hborger, i know how to tunnel any TCP data through SSH with plink on windows -- should be the same here |
| 00:51.59 | khermans_ | hborger, google tunnel ssh tcp |
| 00:52.00 | eeyore- | abrotman: or is that like ... hybernating |
| 00:52.05 | abrotman | eeyore-: are you hitting on me again? |
| 00:52.13 | sagar_ | eventide: oooh =P |
| 00:52.19 | Kofif | well |
| 00:52.24 | Kofif | everything is set to y |
| 00:52.32 | hborger | khermans_, I basically want a remote application to use the local soundserver and output sound locally instead of remotely |
| 00:52.32 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y |
| 00:52.35 | staniel | pureone: the dhcp portion doesn't seem to responde to dhcp requests |
| 00:52.36 | kspath | apt-get install job fails |
| 00:52.45 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | kspath: you need a new source |
| 00:52.47 | hborger | khermans_, while I am logged in ssh -X to the remote machine |
| 00:53.02 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_PODIX_ACL=y |
| 00:53.09 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y ( even ) |
| 00:53.18 | khermans_ | hborger, basically you want the sound from your remote X session to be played locally? |
| 00:53.23 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y |
| 00:53.25 | pureone | staniel post your dnsmasq.conf into pastebin.com |
| 00:53.29 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP=y |
| 00:53.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: now show me the CONFIG_ for your chipset |
| 00:53.31 | abrotman | kspath: come on .. it was funny |
| 00:53.34 | abrotman | Kofif: STOP PASTING |
| 00:53.41 | Kofif | im not pasting im typing :] |
| 00:53.46 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:53.47 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | just paste the whole thing somewhere |
| 00:53.58 | dvs | here? |
| 00:54.00 | dvs | ;-) |
| 00:54.09 | khermans_ | hborger, i dont see why you have to use ssh though |
| 00:54.13 | hborger | khermans_, yes. sound server is configures and listening on tcp 16001. remote machine's user enviremont ARTS_SERVER=localmachine's ip:16001 but it cannot connect |
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| 00:54.37 | Kofif | how do we call that one ? |
| 00:54.40 | khermans_ | hborger, is that port firewalled? |
| 00:54.44 | hborger | khermans_, i suspect it can't connect because ssh isn't passing audioserver traffic, only X traffic |
| 00:54.45 | Kofif | the chipset value |
| 00:54.53 | hborger | khermans_, no firewalls exist on internal network |
| 00:55.06 | hborger | its totally cut off from theinternet |
| 00:55.20 | khermans_ | hborger, well you dont need ssh then |
| 00:55.41 | khermans_ | hborger, you need to connect the remote tcp/16001 to the local tcp/16001 |
| 00:55.43 | hborger | khermans_, it is configure properly, on both machines, the remote machine says conenction refused |
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| 00:55.57 | Kofif | ? |
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| 00:56.24 | khermans_ | hborger, yes because you are not allowing non-local users to connect to that port! |
| 00:56.27 | hborger | im sure its something trivial or stupid that i'ml looking over |
| 00:56.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: what kind of IDE controller is it? drive kind? PATA, SATA, what? |
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| 00:56.44 | hborger | hborger, how would I allow that to be otherwise |
| 00:56.49 | Kofif | i have both ordinary ATA and SATA |
| 00:57.01 | kspath | wget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-armed_router |
| 00:57.03 | eeyore- | four minutes |
| 00:57.08 | khermans_ | hborger, make sure that port tcp/16001 allows your local IP address range (192.168.x.x) and not only 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:57.10 | Kofif | and i am useing the old one the ordinary ide |
| 00:57.25 | hborger | khermans_, where would I check for this? |
| 00:57.30 | khermans_ | hborger, iptables |
| 00:57.38 | Kofif | why are we counting minutes ? :] |
| 00:57.40 | khermans_ | hborger, or in the sound config file |
| 00:57.48 | staniel | pureone: http://pastebin.com/501798 |
| 00:57.49 | hborger | khermans_, I have never configured ip tales |
| 00:57.57 | hborger | it shouldn't have any rules in it actually |
| 00:57.58 | khermans_ | hborger, something is telling it to only listen on 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:58.10 | hborger | hmm |
| 00:58.12 | hborger | ok |
| 00:58.18 | khermans_ | hborger, try this --> nc localhost 16001 |
| 00:58.21 | hborger | let me find out where artsd leeps its conf |
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| 00:58.44 | hborger | nc? |
| 00:58.55 | khermans_ | hborger, then, on the other machine, try --> nc myOtherHost 16001 |
| 00:59.04 | hborger | what package provides nc |
| 00:59.15 | khermans_ | hborger, yea --> aptitude install netcat ? |
| 00:59.16 | eeyore- | bbl |
| 00:59.28 | hborger | done, hold |
| 00:59.32 | pureone | staniel: seems ok it should work |
| 00:59.59 | staniel | pureone: umm... well... it doesn't? |
| 01:00.02 | khermans_ | hborger, nc will help you determine what is going on with that port |
| 01:00.10 | hborger | localhost [127.0.0.1] 16001 (?) : Connection refused |
| 01:00.11 | hborger | thanks |
| 01:00.14 | hborger | good tool |
| 01:00.20 | hborger | i wonder wtf is up |
| 01:00.29 | pureone | staniel: dnsmasq is listening on port 67? |
| 01:00.43 | khermans_ | hborger, is this a TCP server or UDP server? |
| 01:00.52 | hborger | i don't know man |
| 01:00.52 | staniel | pureone: umm... I didn't set any non-standard port |
| 01:00.56 | hborger | its artsd -n |
| 01:01.01 | khermans_ | hborger, netstat -al | grep -i art |
| 01:01.13 | hborger | nothing |
| 01:01.20 | pureone | staniel: check if it is |
| 01:01.27 | staniel | pureone: how? |
| 01:01.31 | hborger | lol |
| 01:01.33 | hborger | how the hell |
| 01:01.36 | hborger | its not even running |
| 01:01.37 | hborger | hold on |
| 01:01.41 | pureone | netstat -tupln | grep dnsmasq |
| 01:01.43 | khermans_ | hborger, ???~?~? |
| 01:02.04 | staniel | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 26382/dnsmasq |
| 01:02.14 | pureone | then yes it is |
| 01:02.19 | hborger | ok here we go |
| 01:02.39 | star-trekio | whos got a debian powered site I can look at? |
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| 01:02.46 | staniel | pureone: so why doesn't dhclient on the client system not get a dhcp response? |
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| 01:03.27 | hborger | nc localhost 16001 outputs MCOP aRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa86md5aut... |
| 01:03.36 | pureone | staniel: here is my dnsmasq diff'ed to yours http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=501809 |
| 01:03.40 | hborger | so at least it can connect locally |
| 01:03.43 | hborger | sound works too |
| 01:03.48 | hborger | let me test it from the other machine |
| 01:04.10 | pureone | mine seems to work, so i dont really get it... |
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| 01:04.24 | pureone | you do see the dhcp broadcasts with tcpdump -i eth1 right ? |
| 01:04.53 | staniel | hmm... hold on then... im gonna try another cable.. just to see |
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| 01:05.07 | hborger | $>nc desktop 16001 on remote machine (desktop is my local machin'es name) MCOPaRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa8md5au so it can connect remotely now |
| 01:05.08 | hborger | huh |
| 01:05.11 | hborger | i wonder wtf is goin on |
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| 01:05.52 | MrRagga | hi, i can't find zcat, which package do i have to install? |
| 01:06.10 | dvs | !find zcat |
| 01:06.22 | staniel | pureone: umm.. on the client or server side? |
| 01:06.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'zcat' (7 of 12): (/bin/zcat) in utils/gzip ;; (/usr/bin/dictzcat) in text/dictzip ;; (/usr/bin/zzcat) in utils/zziplib-bin ;; (/bin/bzcat, /usr/bin/bzcat) in utils/bzip2 ;; (/usr/lib/klibc/bin/zcat) in libs/klibc-utils ;; (/usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_zcat) in utils/backuppc ;; (/etc/fish.d/completions/{bzcat.fish|zcat.fish}) in shells/fish. |
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| 01:06.44 | dvs | MrRagga: looks like gzip |
| 01:07.04 | MrRagga | dvs: thanks a lot |
| 01:07.06 | hborger | khermans_, if you have been following what i've been saying, then apparantly remote machine can connect to local machine's sounder server, but when I play something, it plays, but there is no audio. local audio however works |
| 01:07.23 | dvs | MrRagga: You're welcome |
| 01:07.28 | MrRagga | dvs: apt-file search zcat didn't show me the result |
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| 01:07.44 | dvs | MrRagga: use apt-cache search |
| 01:07.57 | Kofif | <hborger> did you put the volume up ? |
| 01:08.00 | Kofif | in the mixer |
| 01:08.16 | khermans_ | hborger, ok now that you know it can accept remote TCP streams |
| 01:08.20 | Kofif | i forgot the name of that package . |
| 01:08.25 | hborger | volume levels are perfectly fine |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | g72:/var/www# apt-cache search zcat |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | dictzip - Compression utility for dictionary databases |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | zope-textindexng2 - full text index for Zope |
| 01:08.28 | khermans_ | hborger, we need to link the two ports in a tunnel |
| 01:08.28 | Kofif | sndconfig ? |
| 01:08.28 | MrRagga | dvs ^^^^ |
| 01:08.37 | hborger | khermans_, ok, lets links em |
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| 01:08.42 | khermans_ | hborger, :-) |
| 01:08.46 | staniel | pureone: no go on the tcpdump |
| 01:08.47 | hborger | hehe |
| 01:08.50 | branivado | Guerin, hello |
| 01:08.50 | dvs | hmmmmmmm |
| 01:09.04 | pureone | staniel: possible physical problem then? |
| 01:09.08 | benjamindees | any tips on adding a printer to debian wine? |
| 01:09.44 | pureone | brb |
| 01:09.47 | branivado | hello pureone |
| 01:10.00 | staniel | pureone: wouldn't think so... cause dhcp3-server was able to get requests |
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| 01:10.10 | pureone | hello branivado |
| 01:10.18 | dvs | hello ball |
| 01:10.45 | Solet | benjamindees: one last question with the mkisofs... if the directory i'm copying is a dvd-video disk... i'm guessing i want to use the -dvd-video flag... |
| 01:10.47 | hborger | khermans_, what keywords should I be looking on google for, I can't seme to find anything with 'tunneling ssh tcp ports' and combinations of such terms |
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| 01:11.06 | c7g | anyone knows an irc server that 8080 port is open ? |
| 01:11.08 | c7g | ? |
| 01:11.16 | grumpydog | Ever thought? 766 people in this channel and who it would be if we were all physically in the same room at an international convention, It would be great :) |
| 01:11.27 | grumpydog | *how |
| 01:11.37 | benjamindees | Solet, I'm not sure about that, sorry |
| 01:11.49 | khermans_ | hborger, you dont need ssh |
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| 01:11.54 | hborger | no it wouldn't. unless there was free weed |
| 01:11.54 | khermans_ | hborger, remove those terms |
| 01:11.56 | andax | c7g: what do you want to do exactly? |
| 01:12.02 | Kofif | O o O o O i hope this time the compile will Work! :] |
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| 01:12.11 | deepspaceant | guys i keep getting htdocs/.htaccess: RewriteEngine not allowed here - how do i fix this i keep trying but its not working |
| 01:12.15 | staniel | pureone: oops sorry, for some reason it wants to use bootp |
| 01:12.16 | Solet | grumpydog: i give it less than an hour before a brawl breaks out |
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| 01:12.19 | staniel | maybe thats why its not responding |
| 01:12.42 | grumpydog | c7g irc'd port on 8080 not really that is generally http port forward |
| 01:12.42 | Kofif | deepspaceant: That's about #apache |
| 01:12.50 | deepspaceant | #apache is quiet:( |
| 01:12.52 | grumpydog | Solet, heh yeah I doubt it though |
| 01:12.57 | m1ke | any thoughts on why it takes so long to mount an nfs share? |
| 01:13.01 | m1ke | dns resolves fine |
| 01:13.06 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:13.08 | Kofif | kernel panic |
| 01:13.10 | Kofif | same reason |
| 01:14.01 | abrotman | why can't you use a normal keyboard? |
| 01:14.11 | abrotman | because 2.6.8 doesn't support your new keyboard? |
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| 01:14.31 | andax | Kofif: type lspci |grep IDE and double check you have the correct chipset support in the kernel, then try adding the root=/dev/hdXY option to the kernel. |
| 01:14.31 | Kofif | dont know why its problematic. |
| 01:14.44 | grumpydog | abrotman, *nod* 4 wheel mouse works just fine |
| 01:14.48 | benjamindees | m1ke, power failures on the nfs server? |
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| 01:15.03 | abrotman | grumpydog: it's a keyboard isn't it ? |
| 01:15.24 | m1ke | no, why? server is up...nfs finally connects, but curious why so long |
| 01:15.45 | grumpydog | abrotman, I have np with debian and config...only ever asked once here for help in 5 years. |
| 01:15.47 | grumpydog | :) |
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| 01:16.14 | benjamindees | m1ke, firewall perhaps |
| 01:16.25 | m1ke | nope... |
| 01:16.32 | m1ke | maybe firewall on client? |
| 01:16.34 | m1ke | hmmm |
| 01:16.37 | m1ke | ill check |
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| 01:17.04 | Kofif | ok im cleaning up everything deleting everything and starting again :] |
| 01:17.09 | Kofif | bbl |
| 01:17.33 | m1ke | nope...stopped client firewall...same issue |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | anyhting in the logs? |
| 01:18.05 | staniel | how do I stop dhclient from using bootp |
| 01:18.10 | grumpydog | dns has nothing to do it unless Bind is misconfigured RDNS could be the problem but for tld you have to normally wait 24 -48 hours for it to take effect. |
| 01:18.29 | grumpydog | Be patient |
| 01:18.51 | drp | which family of processors do the 386 kernel images encase |
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| 01:19.00 | abrotman | drp: that's a little vague |
| 01:19.02 | benjamindees | is it normal for bash to become utterly useless dealing with the same program in /usr/local/bin and in /usr/bin due to its stupid cache? |
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| 01:19.08 | grumpydog | drp pIII upwards |
| 01:19.08 | asg | !vagueness |
| 01:19.08 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
| 01:19.12 | Kofif | ok deleted all traces for 2.6.X |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | grumpydog: no .. |
| 01:19.18 | m1ke | i thought it was lies |
| 01:19.18 | abrotman | that's not even close |
| 01:19.19 | drp | I'm wanting to upgrade my kernel but am not sure whether i need k7 or 386 |
| 01:19.25 | abrotman | drp: what is your CPU ? |
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| 01:19.42 | drp | iirc I think I have an athlon 1.4 thunderbird |
| 01:19.44 | Daedalus_ | drp: 386 and up. it won't be optimized for better processors (prentium pro, etc) |
| 01:19.47 | abrotman | drp: then k7 |
| 01:20.14 | Kofif | drp cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.18 | abrotman | drp: 386 is the LCD for generic linux kernels |
| 01:20.18 | andax | drp: if you just "think" then type cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.20 | grumpydog | abrotman, np you take the call here :) |
| 01:20.26 | Daedalus_ | drp: sorry for the lag. Yeah, you want k7 |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | grumpydog: good .. you were wrong :) |
| 01:20.41 | nevyn | Lowest Common Denominator |
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| 01:20.56 | abrotman | nevyn: yes .. that's what i meant |
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| 01:21.10 | nevyn | abrotman: took me 15 seconds to get there. |
| 01:21.11 | drp | i posted the specs in #flood |
| 01:21.23 | abrotman | drp: you have to tell us BEFORE you do that :) |
| 01:21.29 | andax | :) |
| 01:21.32 | drp | lol ... sorry |
| 01:21.35 | drp | i'll post again |
| 01:21.35 | dvs | drp: or use paste |
| 01:21.37 | nrdb | I have a problem with my raid5 setup. today my md1: is missing hdb2, in the /var/log/messages there is "Jan 12 10:10:55 mini-cl kernel: md: kicking non-fresh hdb2 from array!" can someone please explain this? can it be fixed? should I replace that drive? |
| 01:21.43 | falkon | find is fucked up. I'm trying to search for any file that ends in .mp3 in a certain directory. I type "find /part/to/files -name *.mp3" and it's not working |
| 01:21.51 | falkon | what do I do to get this |
| 01:21.51 | abrotman | drp: yes .. you want k7 |
| 01:22.03 | falkon | the man page has been no help whatsoever |
| 01:22.13 | drp | ok |
| 01:22.15 | drp | thanks abrotman Kofif Daedalus_ andax |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | falkon: and what do you get? |
| 01:22.31 | falkon | nothing |
| 01:22.49 | falkon | zsh: no matches found: *.mp3 |
| 01:22.59 | falkon | even though there's mp3 files in there |
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| 01:23.16 | tengulre11 | HI,ALL! |
| 01:23.24 | andax | drp: go for the k7 |
| 01:23.30 | abrotman | falkon: does zsh support globbing ? |
| 01:23.41 | falkon | globbing? |
| 01:23.42 | Kofif | HI :] |
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| 01:24.05 | abrotman | falkon: roughly .. the * |
| 01:24.23 | falkon | dunno |
| 01:24.25 | Phated | globglobglob. |
| 01:24.29 | Phated | #zsh! |
| 01:24.35 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.35 | dpkg | somebody said qotd139 was <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 01:24.41 | abrotman | why .. every time?!?! |
| 01:24.47 | zinx | falkon: are they .mp3 or .MP3 or .Mp3 or .mP3? |
| 01:24.48 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 01:24.50 | staniel | pureone: ?? |
| 01:24.50 | Phated | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.50 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
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| 01:24.59 | pureone | back |
| 01:25.02 | raf256 | lol |
| 01:25.05 | andax | falkon: the correct syntax is find /media/mp3 -name '*.mp3' |
| 01:25.30 | zinx | **/*.mp3 will work in zsh, if they're in subdirectories |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | andax: his original should work also |
| 01:26.13 | raf256 | !qotd0 |
| 01:26.13 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 01:26.21 | pureone | staniel: i dont really see the problem but you should really be able to see dhcp requests in tcpdump |
| 01:26.30 | staniel | pureone: sorry, I do |
| 01:26.41 | pureone | staniel: what was it? |
| 01:26.47 | abrotman | ok .. that's just freaking odd .. find . -name *.mp3 works .. but if you use a path .. you need find ./path/ -name '*.mp3; |
| 01:26.53 | staniel | 20:26:37.485778 IP 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 00:0f:b0:03:a5:27 (oui Unknown), length: 300 |
| 01:26.55 | abrotman | bah .. s/;/'/ |
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| 01:27.04 | grumpydog | bootstrapper |
| 01:27.10 | Kofif | you can updatedb;locate mp3 |
| 01:27.12 | Kofif | no ? |
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| 01:27.21 | falkon | I need to full path |
| 01:27.27 | falkon | and locate won't give it to me |
| 01:27.29 | abrotman | Kofif: well .. you can trim it even more |
| 01:27.31 | Kofif | that's full path. |
| 01:27.46 | falkon | no wait |
| 01:27.52 | falkon | I need to search in a certain path |
| 01:27.54 | Kofif | locate mp3 >>mp3.lst |
| 01:27.57 | staniel | and it keeps saying that until the client fails |
| 01:28.01 | falkon | and then have it spit out the whole path |
| 01:28.12 | staniel | pureone: maybe its dhclient.conf problems? |
| 01:28.22 | falkon | find /path -name '*.mp3' | cat >> file |
| 01:28.24 | Kofif | find /path/ -iname '*.mp3' >> /tmp/mp3.lst |
| 01:28.33 | Kofif | no need to use cat |
| 01:28.36 | pureone | possible |
| 01:28.40 | Kofif | directly pipe it to file. |
| 01:28.51 | staniel | pureone: could you pastebin yours? |
| 01:28.55 | abrotman | !uuoc falkon |
| 01:28.57 | falkon | >> is append, right? |
| 01:29.06 | phogg | falkon: yes |
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| 01:29.12 | abrotman | useless .. but original :) |
| 01:29.18 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501809 |
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| 01:29.43 | deadcat | can i share my printer on my linux box to a windows machine without samba? just use some ipp or http protocol? |
| 01:29.57 | grumpydog | * chou-chou (i=peanut@i.screwed.your.sister.while.you.were.a-w-a-y.org) has joined #debian <---- Nice you are welcome to my 38 year old sister :) |
| 01:30.08 | staniel | pureone: dhclient.conf? |
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| 01:30.22 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 01:30.23 | phogg | I could do this forever: cat /dev/zero | cat | tee /dev/null | sort -n | uniq | cat > /dev/null |
| 01:30.28 | abrotman | deadcat: lpr .. if you're lucky |
| 01:30.38 | abrotman | phogg: you dork :) |
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| 01:30.44 | grumpydog | omg phogg h3c SoldierX |
| 01:31.03 | deadcat | abrotman: i have cups right now |
| 01:31.04 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:31.09 | Kofif | kernel panics |
| 01:31.13 | dvs | it worked? |
| 01:31.14 | SperMite | what line do you add in fstab to get a usbstick to work? |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | deadcat: what size? |
| 01:31.27 | abrotman | !tell SperMite about vfatrw |
| 01:32.05 | andax | SperMite: a good guess would be "/dev/sda1 /mnt/stick vfat defaults 0 0" |
| 01:32.08 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:32.09 | deadcat | i am also having problem sending outgoing mail with postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo |
| 01:32.40 | phogg | unless it's uba. |
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| 01:32.48 | pureone | staniel: one sec sorry |
| 01:33.50 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501843 thats it everything is commented out. all my dhcpclients work (windows and linux) |
| 01:33.51 | benjamindees | is anyone successfully using wine on SID? |
| 01:34.37 | pipeline | Yes, lots of people. |
| 01:34.46 | Sexy | hi people, i have a problem with "synaptic", it reports errors when i try to add some packages...i can copy/paste that report...but on private... |
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| 01:35.07 | asg | Sexy: /msg dpkg paster |
| 01:35.08 | staniel | pureone: damn, still doesn't work :( |
| 01:35.09 | benjamindees | what might I use to configure it? is there no longer a wine.conf? |
| 01:35.27 | pipeline | benjamindees: No, there is not a wine.conf. Use winecfg. |
| 01:35.31 | boxy | hey any ideas why all gnome apps take a bajillion minutes to load? |
| 01:35.47 | threat | boxy, aye!! :) hows the network going? :) |
| 01:35.53 | abrotman | boxy: because you're running gnome on a P133 ? |
| 01:35.57 | staniel | boxy: change your hostname lately? |
| 01:36.03 | boxy | threat, pretty good had to use an old driver |
| 01:36.03 | dvs | boxy: a 486 even... |
| 01:36.06 | boxy | staniel, don't believe i have |
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| 01:36.13 | boxy | dvs, abrotman P4 3.0 ghz |
| 01:36.13 | Kofiko | ? |
| 01:36.38 | Kofif | :] back , had to switch IP on lan |
| 01:36.39 | abrotman | boxy: well .. then there's something wrong .. my laptop which is slower .. doesn't take nearly that long to load gnome apps |
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| 01:36.46 | Kofif | abrotman can i pm you ? |
| 01:36.53 | solcito69 | te invito al primer foro de sexo gratis de la Argentina http://ezpartako3000.forospace.com hay fotos! y videos de gente comun! |
| 01:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: keep it in the channel please |
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| 01:37.01 | Kofif | ah |
| 01:37.02 | abrotman | wow .. spanish spam! |
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| 01:37.04 | boxy | abrotman, yeah heh it takes a couple minutes just to load rhythmbox (gnome) but any other app loads fine |
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| 01:37.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:37.15 | abrotman | if only i knew what he was giving away .. i'd give some to asg |
| 01:37.24 | Kofif | i want to give u root ssh , i cant seem to find the problem |
| 01:37.28 | Kofif | maybe you could find it. |
| 01:37.30 | abrotman | boxy: doesn't rhythmbox have to load your library? |
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| 01:37.47 | boxy | abrotman, i dont have but a couple cd's on my comp at the moment |
| 01:37.54 | boxy | its not just that its gnome apps in general |
| 01:37.56 | abrotman | Kofif: you sohuld never EVER give root to someone on IRC |
| 01:37.57 | Sexy | asg, and???I pasted it... |
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| 01:38.05 | threat | Kofif, I'll take root too thanbx :LP |
| 01:38.07 | Kofif | lol :] |
| 01:38.10 | Kofif | i know |
| 01:38.19 | Kofif | but im sitting for like 4 hours now |
| 01:38.23 | threat | abrotman, except me :) he should give me root |
| 01:38.25 | abrotman | boxy: well .. loads in about 2 seconds for me :) |
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| 01:38.29 | Kofif | on the same freaking problem and im getting fed up. |
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| 01:38.43 | boxy | abrotman, haha any ideas on what could cause this? my hostname has been set to debian since i installed it |
| 01:38.46 | abrotman | Kofif: i still don't understand why you're recompiling |
| 01:38.56 | Kofif | because the image wont help |
| 01:38.56 | asg | Sexy: pasted it where? |
| 01:38.56 | abrotman | boxy: did you try a strace? |
| 01:38.58 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:39.04 | drp | ok so I just installed my new kernel ... do I need to reinstall the nvidia kernel module because when I booted up the my new 2.6 kernel it said somethign to the extent that it couldn't find or load it |
| 01:39.12 | Sexy | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
| 01:39.13 | boxy | abrotman, nope but i will now |
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| 01:39.16 | Sexy | asg, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
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| 01:39.20 | Solet | ok i have a problem with my mkisofs... the output file will be larger than 4 gig... how can i combind the tar command to make a tar family as it builds the iso so i can have multiple smaller chained tars instead of one huge file that wont fit |
| 01:39.23 | dvs | Kofif: The image won't help what? |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | boxy: granted .. i have nothing in ryhtmbox .. but still ... |
| 01:39.42 | Kofif | dosnt work dont know why. |
| 01:39.52 | Kofif | and the image is 2.6.8 |
| 01:40.13 | abrotman | Kofif: what doesn't work ? |
| 01:40.15 | boxy | abrotman, i just removed my playlist |
| 01:40.20 | boxy | and it's still takin forever to load |
| 01:40.23 | Kofif | im not into useing vuln kernels. |
| 01:40.29 | boxy | accept(11, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=" <- this is where its sitting in strace |
| 01:40.33 | Kofif | abrotman the kernel / keyboard / FS |
| 01:40.37 | abrotman | Kofif: are you fucking telling me .. you're doing all this shit because you can't read a fucking DSA ? |
| 01:40.49 | Kofif | CANT READ? |
| 01:40.55 | Kofif | you want me to paste the CONFIG |
| 01:41.01 | Kofif | take a look |
| 01:41.03 | abrotman | do you know what a DSA is ? |
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| 01:41.19 | asg | Sexy: looks like the CD has errors. Try copying the deb to /tmp and see if the same thing occurs. |
| 01:41.26 | Kofif | maybe we call it something else here , im not from the US |
| 01:41.34 | joeyy | sweet my system is up look at my hardware http://nsevil.ath.cx/sysinfo.html |
| 01:41.36 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 01:41.37 | dpkg | methinks dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.38 | drp | !DSA |
| 01:41.38 | dpkg | dsa is probably Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.54 | abrotman | boxy: why is the path .. blank? |
| 01:42.03 | boxy | abrotman, my guess is as good as yours |
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| 01:42.09 | boxy | maybe thats where its stalling? who knows |
| 01:43.12 | Kofif | that's not helpfull |
| 01:43.14 | drp | do I need to update my nvidia kernel module when I upgrade linux kernels ? |
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| 01:43.18 | cafuego | !ops joeyy is a spammer |
| 01:43.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: joeyy is a spammer |
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| 01:44.38 | Sexy | asg, i think that CD is OK, but, few months ago i changed mount point of cdrom, and i had problems with synaptic, because he couldn't find cdrom...then i fixed it, but i think that i not fixed everything... |
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| 01:45.37 | asg | Sexy: perhaps. Can you view it from a terminal session. i.e., mount the mountpoint, ls /foo |
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| 01:46.10 | newbie2debian | hello |
| 01:46.12 | drp | I'm assumign you do but I'm not sure |
| 01:46.19 | abrotman | boxy: i can show you those two lines from when i run it |
| 01:46.25 | abrotman | boxy: /join #flood |
| 01:46.30 | newbie2debian | what is the command line that will allow me to configure my display from the bash prompt please? |
| 01:46.44 | benjamindees | !drxx |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:46.45 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:47.00 | mentor | hmm |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | name that tune? |
| 01:47.30 | newbie2debian | thanks |
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| 01:49.06 | asg | abrotman: I can name that tune in one note. Leaders and Followers -- Bad Religion |
| 01:49.21 | abrotman | asg: i think you're wrong .. mentor seems like a YMCA kind of guy |
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| 01:49.42 | Solet | whats the command for tarring the file "this.file" into a set of tarballs that are each 250MB big? and names like this001.tar this002.tar etc? |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | Solet: split ? |
| 01:50.00 | asg | Solet: split(1) |
| 01:50.14 | dondelelcaro | Solet: tar to split, then cat to tar. |
| 01:50.33 | asg | dondelelcaro: that so sounds like the lyrics to a KMFDM tune |
| 01:50.35 | odla | abrotman: do you have 12 fingers? |
| 01:50.39 | boxy | odb, abrotman is a computer ;) |
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| 01:50.42 | dondelelcaro | odla: he's polydactylic. |
| 01:50.45 | cafuego | odla: abrotman is a perl script. |
| 01:50.47 | abrotman | boxy: do you want to see those lines? |
| 01:50.50 | abrotman | i am not a bot! |
| 01:50.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 01:50.56 | boxy | kidding. |
| 01:51.00 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.01 | cafuego | abrotman: script, not bot ;-) |
| 01:51.01 | foo | I have having some weird problems with grip. It doesn't rip or output anything. Here is the verbose output ... http://pastebin.com/501829 - any ideas? It goes through every track in about 1 second. |
| 01:51.05 | mfrisch | cyborg |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | cafuego: then i must be a really good script! |
| 01:51.21 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.27 | abrotman | boxy: /j #flood |
| 01:51.28 | smacnay | are there still issues with the Debian kernel .deb packages newer than 2.6.12? |
| 01:51.35 | odla | abrotman would be an abusive bot |
| 01:51.38 | cafuego | abrotman: Didn'y you win someone the obfuscated perl code contest in 1996? ;-) |
| 01:51.41 | abrotman | i would not! |
| 01:51.44 | odla | and he would pick fights with ravenbird |
| 01:51.45 | boxy | abrotman, so what to do about it? |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | cafuego: no .. that would have been my SPARC asm days .. |
| 01:51.58 | odla | and make him bite the pillow |
| 01:52.01 | odla | ha ha |
| 01:52.04 | boxy | i cant just throw it in there can i? lol |
| 01:52.15 | abrotman | boxy: no idea .. are you on testing/unstable ? |
| 01:52.21 | boxy | unstable |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:52.37 | boxy | but abrotman even when i was on ubuntu i had the exact same problem |
| 01:52.40 | boxy | abrotman, bts? |
| 01:52.43 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:52.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 01:52.56 | abrotman | boxy: do you restore your $HOME when you change distros ? |
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| 01:53.02 | boxy | nope |
| 01:53.17 | boxy | just my ~/music ;) |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | boxy: maybe it's a bug in gnome2.12 ? |
| 01:53.47 | boxy | maybe |
| 01:53.59 | abrotman | i'm running testing .. so i'm still on 2.10 |
| 01:54.02 | boxy | anyone having problems with stability with firefox 1.5 |
| 01:54.08 | abrotman | everyone? |
| 01:54.17 | odla | boxy: i am |
| 01:54.19 | odla | use links2 |
| 01:54.20 | Solet | dondelelcaro: holy crap... this has not gotten so difficult that i think i may even have you stumped... ok i have a 4.7 gig dvd that i need the iso of (mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd) due to size restrictions of fat32 i am needing to tar it and split the tar into a chain of them (preferably 250MB), again because of size restrictions on the FS this all must be done in one line of command cause it cant get written to the hdd... |
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| 01:54.43 | boxy | odla, so your having the same firefox problem it just kinda hangs? lol |
| 01:54.44 | Solet | i have a gig of ram and no swap cause this machine is not normally a linux machine |
| 01:54.59 | Solet | s/not/now |
| 01:55.02 | odla | boxy: i've had it unexpectedly quit on me several times |
| 01:55.04 | boxy | abrotman, i might switch to testing |
| 01:55.13 | boxy | odla mine just hangs like a darche |
| 01:55.13 | abrotman | boxy: you can't downgrade |
| 01:55.15 | odla | boxy: i only use ff 1.5 when i can't use links2 or dillo |
| 01:55.22 | boxy | abrotman, why not |
| 01:55.37 | odla | boxy: you'll have to reinstall |
| 01:55.38 | asg | boxy: does 'ctrl+alt+f1' and then back to X (usually ctrl+alt+f7) fix things? |
| 01:55.45 | abrotman | boxy: it doesn't quite work that way .. i mean .. you'd have to purge gnome .. change your sources .. then *attempt* a downgrade |
| 01:56.13 | boxy | asg, nope |
| 01:56.15 | boxy | abrotman, heh |
| 01:56.20 | boxy | hell if im reinstalling this |
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| 01:56.39 | boxy | i have no cd's and am on wifi so i have to take my machine downstairs and chill there forever while i do a net install |
| 01:56.51 | boxy | i could always put it on testing and wait for testing to catch up ;) |
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| 01:57.15 | abrotman | you could .. but like i said . you'd have to purge gnome .. then try to isntall gnome from testing .. and it still might not solve the issue |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:57.39 | boxy | yeah abrotman, no i didnt check it yet cause firefox is being homosexual |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | boxy: now now .. that's a bad word |
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| 01:57.53 | cyber1|xoom | can someone please go through the steps of setting up a secondary name server with me? |
| 01:57.54 | Solet | tar -cvvf file.tar | grep mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd |
| 01:57.57 | odla | boxy: ff is a homosexual? |
| 01:58.00 | odla | ha ah |
| 01:58.11 | blockd | Solet: have you tried the -split-output option of mkisofs? They're still big but should fit. |
| 01:58.12 | boxy | Sorry if i offended anyone <3 |
| 01:58.20 | Solet | that will return a tar file with the image file of /hd/cd in it right |
| 01:58.31 | boxy | what about ff is a flamboyiant coked out hooker |
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| 01:58.34 | Kofif | yet agai |
| 01:58.34 | boxy | ?* |
| 01:58.35 | Kofif | n |
| 01:58.37 | Kofif | same problem |
| 01:58.43 | Solet | blockd??? there's a split-output? |
| 01:58.51 | boxy | abrotman, so how do i purge gnome? |
| 01:58.51 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: Not likely. But the DNS howto could help you with that. |
| 01:58.57 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 01:58.57 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 01:59.04 | cyber1|xoom | Flimzy: Where can I find that.? |
| 01:59.10 | blockd | Solet: either that or an elaborate hoax in my mkisofs man page ;) |
| 01:59.11 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: google.com |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | boxy: probably want to kill gtk too |
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| 01:59.26 | Kofif | removed images , reinstalled kernel IMAGES from APT-GET option , configured boot loader , rebooted , and POW " login : _ " BUY the keyboard is not responding at all. |
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| 01:59.33 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: might also be called the bind howtoo |
| 01:59.42 | Solet | any paramaters that go with it? or just mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd -split-output ?? |
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| 01:59.58 | tengulre11 | hi,all! I want running a progrmm without root , how to write the shell script in /etc/rc.local? |
| 02:00.11 | abrotman | you can't |
| 02:00.11 | boxy | abrotman, is it often that unstable messes up? |
| 02:00.33 | asg | tengulre11: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | boxy: it's called unstable for a reason |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | asg: but he's not root |
| 02:00.40 | Kofif | abrotman ^^ |
| 02:00.41 | boxy | abrotman, i understand that, but its basically how gentoo is and theres never really much of a problem with that? |
| 02:00.42 | abrotman | oh wait .. i misunderstood that |
| 02:00.48 | asg | abrotman: then he can use sudo if need be |
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| 02:01.03 | abrotman | Kofif: until i can figure out why you're trying to compile a kernel ..... |
| 02:01.08 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 02:01.09 | boxy | abrotman, and then stable is just wayyy to old for a desktop in my opinion anyways |
| 02:01.10 | Kofif | NOT COMPILING |
| 02:01.21 | Kofif | its the image from apt-get |
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| 02:01.28 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
| 02:01.33 | abrotman | Kofif: is the keyboard usb? |
| 02:01.37 | Kofif | PS |
| 02:01.38 | phogg | FarmerTom: man tar. |
| 02:01.47 | abrotman | i htink your keyboard is broken |
| 02:01.54 | blockd | Solet: it's in the man page. None that I'm aware of but you need to use -o as well. |
| 02:01.57 | phogg | FarmerTom: specifically, see -u. |
| 02:01.57 | Kofif | it works with kernel 2.2 |
| 02:02.01 | abrotman | boxy: sometimes ... stuff in sid just explodes! |
| 02:02.09 | Kofif | works with windows 4.0 5.0 and xp. |
| 02:02.09 | FarmerTom | phogg, I'm currently on Windows (but using the GNU tar) so I don't have man. |
| 02:02.11 | FarmerTom | Okay, thanks |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | Kofif: did you install module-init-tools ? |
| 02:02.15 | boxy | abrotman, :P |
| 02:02.17 | pipeline | boxy: Sid is very much like using Fedora Core :| |
| 02:02.18 | Kofif | nothing broken ! |
| 02:02.24 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 02:02.24 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 02:02.27 | boxy | pipeline, heh what do you use testing? |
| 02:02.35 | phogg | FarmerTom: google for it. Lots of people host man pages |
| 02:02.46 | pipeline | boxy: Unstable, duh |
| 02:02.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 02:02.57 | Kofif | yes. |
| 02:03.04 | blockd | Solet: also, I'd put that option right after the mkisofs command, not after /hd/cd or whatever that is |
| 02:03.14 | abrotman | boxy: i'm a testing user . i'm in the minority of the regulars here |
| 02:03.24 | boxy | heh |
| 02:03.29 | Kofif | omg is pissing down with rain :] |
| 02:03.30 | Solet | whats the filesystem for dvd media? |
| 02:03.33 | Solet | i cant mount it :( |
| 02:03.36 | boxy | so most of the regulars use unstable? |
| 02:03.40 | pipeline | boxy: You see, abrotman likes his system to actually work. |
| 02:03.44 | boxy | haha |
| 02:03.49 | Solet | ops nvm it auto mounted |
| 02:03.56 | Solet | i feel retarded... (more so than normal) |
| 02:03.57 | Kofif | boxy i was on unstable for a long time a while back. |
| 02:04.07 | abrotman | boxy: yes .. but i like a working system .. i hate dicking with this package or that package .. that's the reason i started using debian ... cause stuff just works :) |
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| 02:04.15 | boxy | hah |
| 02:04.20 | boxy | yeah so far i like debian |
| 02:04.27 | Kofif | while i was working on some programing projects :] |
| 02:04.33 | abrotman | with unstable .. you can get some real damn annoying bugs |
| 02:04.33 | boxy | gentoo is a bit overrated as far as all the compiling goes |
| 02:05.01 | cleit0n | hi. how calibreted my joystick in debian? |
| 02:05.06 | threat | boxy, yeah, but you get a finer grain control :) |
| 02:05.11 | asg | abrotman: the Linux Gazette one was still the best |
| 02:05.18 | dvs | cleit0n: jscal |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | asg: i don't remember that one |
| 02:05.33 | Kofif | i still remeber potato :] |
| 02:05.35 | asg | abrotman: you removed the package and it did an rm -rf / |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | asg: oh .. yes .. i do remember that being mentioned |
| 02:06.03 | asg | abrotman: it's filed under 'horrid bugs' in greycat's sid faq |
| 02:06.03 | abrotman | Kofif: yes .. but do you remember that bug? |
| 02:06.09 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:06.18 | boxy | threat, lol |
| 02:06.20 | Kofif | i was like 13 |
| 02:06.26 | Kofif | long time ago. |
| 02:06.51 | boxy | aight so now how should i go about this downgrading to testing im assuming im going to have to uninstall quite a few things |
| 02:06.53 | Kofif | im more into servers atm , less on desktops |
| 02:06.58 | cleit0n | dvs: what is this? Move axis 0 to minimum position and push any button. |
| 02:06.58 | Kofif | kernel 2.4.X |
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| 02:07.09 | asg | Kofif: the question is whether you can legally drink or not |
| 02:07.10 | Kofif | first time im trying to make a 2.6 :] |
| 02:07.13 | tengulre11 | I want to config a small system, anybody can give me some tips or example .config? |
| 02:07.23 | Kofif | yeah i can legaly drink :P |
| 02:07.39 | dvs | cleit0n: I'd move the joystick as far left as I can |
| 02:07.44 | afabian | It's interesting how old hardware works. New stuff works on Windows, because it came with a driver written by the vendor. Later, Windows makes some new versions, said hardware is long past support by the original vendor, but linux drivers tend to keep on living and working. |
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| 02:08.36 | pipeline | afabian: That's not true at all. |
| 02:08.40 | pipeline | afabian: Actually, the reverse is much more true. |
| 02:08.41 | odla | how do a copy something from xterm to a web browser? |
| 02:08.46 | odla | i.e. |
| 02:08.47 | z36ra | fixed it somehow |
| 02:08.59 | Kofif | odla with the middle button :] |
| 02:09.00 | dvs | cleit0n: jstest will print the various values if that's what you want. |
| 02:09.03 | abrotman | odla: highlight it .. then middle click |
| 02:09.06 | pipeline | afabian: Drivers from windows NT 3.5 will still work in modern windows. Have fun porting 90% of the drivers from Linux 2.0 to modern kernels -- most of them have been allowed to rot. |
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| 02:09.09 | odla | i don't have a middle button |
| 02:09.11 | z36ra | I installed wine and a few other things from the etch distro. |
| 02:09.12 | boxy | abrotman, so how should i go about my downgrade? |
| 02:09.16 | Kofif | so get one ! |
| 02:09.17 | pipeline | z36ra: That was very, very, very unwise. |
| 02:09.24 | abrotman | boxy: reinstall :) |
| 02:09.25 | asg | odla: click both left and right together |
| 02:09.26 | odla | no no there must be another way ;) |
| 02:09.33 | boxy | abrotman, i dont think so :p |
| 02:09.35 | afabian | pipeline, must have to do with my statistically insignificant sampling of hardware. |
| 02:09.41 | pipeline | afabian: That would be my guess. |
| 02:09.46 | pipeline | afabian: One issue with windows drivers |
| 02:09.59 | odla | asg: thank you! |
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| 02:10.06 | abrotman | boxy: you remove gnome/gtk .. change your sources .. install gnome .. pray |
| 02:10.09 | z36ra | pipeline, I dont know how unwise it could be to fix a broken cd install on a machine of very little importance |
| 02:10.11 | pipeline | afabian: Is that Windows NT doesn't support VxD hardware drivers. So a huge class of drivers all went obsolete at once in 1999, when Windows 2000 gcame out. |
| 02:10.15 | asg | odla: you're welcome |
| 02:10.20 | cleit0n | dvs: Joystick (DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick ) has 14 axes ((null), (null), (null), Y, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X) |
| 02:10.20 | pipeline | z36ra: You've now hosed your system. Congratulations. |
| 02:10.23 | cleit0n | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) jstest /dev/input/js0 |
| 02:10.27 | odla | i love easy questions with easy answers |
| 02:10.32 | z36ra | I would say it's not THAT unwise |
| 02:10.32 | Kofif | well |
| 02:10.35 | boxy | abrotman, is there a easy way to remove all those packages? |
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| 02:10.44 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 02:10.44 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 02:10.48 | Kofif | any ideas why my 2.6 kernel wont recognize the keyboard ? :\ |
| 02:10.54 | z36ra | pipeline, it was hosed from the begining |
| 02:11.04 | odla | Kofif: it's not plugged in ;) |
| 02:11.18 | Kofif | get real mate |
| 02:11.27 | _fred | Hi! I am having a weird problem and don't find it referenced anywhere. When I start aMSN I cannot type anything in the login box. Other applications works fine though. I do sometimes have this same problem on some chat windows in Kopete. Any idea where I should look for? |
| 02:11.48 | z36ra | pipeline, I click and it works now... thats pretty simple. but I'll let you know if it stops working |
| 02:11.51 | dvs | Kofif: I've never heard of a PS/2 keyboard not working. |
| 02:11.54 | FarmerTom | Okay, I'm reinstalling I have all my stuff backed up, but I need to give my drive a through scrub. Earse totally everything, I have lots of 'bad sectors' too. What command do I issue when? |
| 02:12.01 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.05 | Kofif | 2.6.8 dosnt |
| 02:12.07 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:12.21 | dvs | Kofif: and 2.4.18? |
| 02:12.29 | abrotman | dvs: it would be 2.4.27 |
| 02:12.35 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:12.38 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:12.41 | dvs | abrotman: I like Woody better! ;-) |
| 02:12.43 | abrotman | dvs: he didn't know what he was doing when he installed woody either :) |
| 02:12.46 | Solet | "mkisofs: Input/output error. cannot read from 'the first file in my target path'" <--- what do i do? |
| 02:12.49 | Kofif | didnt try yet. |
| 02:13.03 | Kofif | 2.4.27 |
| 02:13.09 | Kofif | but i want 2.6.8 to work |
| 02:13.14 | Kofif | it dosnt make sence |
| 02:13.21 | dvs | not one bit |
| 02:13.58 | Kofif | apt-cache search kernel | grep smp | grep -v 27 | grep -v k7 | grep -v k6 | grep -v pcmcia | grep -v em64t | grep -v 8-2| grep -v amd | awk {'print $1'} | grep -v 4 |
| 02:14.01 | abrotman | Kofif: what version of module-init-tools do you have ? |
| 02:14.03 | Kofif | that's ok ? |
| 02:14.18 | Kofif | abrotman> it prints out " latest version " |
| 02:14.25 | grahamoz | hey i got a question |
| 02:14.25 | Kofif | i guess the latest... :| |
| 02:14.29 | grahamoz | about the new debian |
| 02:14.35 | grahamoz | the dvd version |
| 02:14.36 | Kofif | grahamoz so ask , dont ask to ask :] |
| 02:14.36 | boxy | !remove gtk |
| 02:14.37 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l module-init-tools |
| 02:14.44 | grahamoz | whats on dvd 2 ? |
| 02:14.46 | abrotman | boxy: dpkg -l | grep gtk |
| 02:14.47 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:14.52 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 02:14.52 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:14.59 | dvs | grahamoz: less popular packages |
| 02:14.59 | Kofif | ii module-init-to 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel modules |
| 02:15.15 | grahamoz | so dvd 1 is only needed ? |
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| 02:15.21 | dvs | grahamoz: yup |
| 02:15.26 | Kofif | even 3.2-pre1-2 < |
| 02:15.33 | grahamoz | awesome |
| 02:15.43 | grahamoz | and is kde 3.5 in the new release ? |
| 02:15.49 | andax | grahamoz: topic |
| 02:15.50 | dvs | !info module-init-tools sarge |
| 02:15.50 | abrotman | the stable release . no |
| 02:15.52 | newbie2debian | whatis xmd5 |
| 02:15.54 | dpkg | module-init-tools: (tools for managing Linux kernel modules), section admin, is required. Version: 3.2-pre1-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 292 kB |
| 02:15.59 | abrotman | !tell newbie2debian about xmd5 |
| 02:16.07 | grahamoz | hmm ok |
| 02:16.09 | odla | kde sucks |
| 02:16.13 | odla | !start a desktop war |
| 02:16.13 | dpkg | KDE owns you and your dog. |
| 02:16.17 | dvs | !lart odla |
| 02:16.17 | odla | no |
| 02:16.17 | Kofif | xfce :] |
| 02:16.19 | grahamoz | what about the new gnome lol |
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| 02:16.30 | abrotman | gnome2.8 in sarge |
| 02:16.40 | odla | the cool window manager |
| 02:16.48 | odla | w/ emelfm |
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| 02:16.57 | odla | the only way to browse your files |
| 02:16.58 | Kofif | abrotman so what dose that tell us ? |
| 02:16.59 | grahamoz | gnome 2.12 |
| 02:17.00 | drp | what do i need to do so that my new 2.6 kernel loads my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:17.11 | drp | it doesn't show up in modconf whenever i boot to my new 2.6 kernel |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | Kofif: just wanted to make sure you actually had the ability to load modules with 2.6 |
| 02:17.16 | grahamoz | is there a list of the new packages |
| 02:17.17 | max | hey, are any of you guys experiencing any issues with recent updates to xorg packages... my computer keeps freezing |
| 02:17.23 | grahamoz | like on a site |
| 02:17.25 | vineetchadha | I am getting uable to locate tools.jar error when i run ant ? any clues |
| 02:17.27 | newbie2debian | thanks |
| 02:17.27 | max | after my last update |
| 02:17.28 | newbie2debian | brb |
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| 02:17.29 | abrotman | grahamoz: for sarge? |
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| 02:17.46 | max | this is on unstable btw |
| 02:17.47 | grahamoz | yes |
| 02:17.50 | grahamoz | the new one |
| 02:17.53 | grahamoz | 3.1 r1 |
| 02:17.57 | Kofif | abrotman: yeah well that's not helpfull as long as i cannot find what bugs my keyboard, maybe a language setting? |
| 02:18.05 | abrotman | grahamoz: there are no new packages .. except security update s.. |
| 02:18.13 | Kofif | i have 2 languages installed |
| 02:18.17 | odla | do i need to apt-secure my keyz now since i'm upgrading to etch? |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | Kofif: you have no other keyboards ? |
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| 02:18.30 | arcane | whats a good 'keep my system date in order' app? |
| 02:18.40 | Kofif | the other one is USB and its ugly and dirty |
| 02:18.48 | andax | arcane: rdate ? :) |
| 02:18.48 | abrotman | arcane: ntp |
| 02:18.49 | Kofif | its a new pc man , i want to enjoy it . |
| 02:18.55 | crn | anyone tried the skype deb? |
| 02:18.55 | boxy | abrotman, i cant get a couple of gnome deps to install, blah blah depends: pkg but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:18.59 | abrotman | Kofif: why not try it .. see if ti works |
| 02:19.04 | Kofif | its USB |
| 02:19.09 | abrotman | and? |
| 02:19.15 | Kofif | hmm |
| 02:19.20 | vineetchadha | hi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help |
| 02:19.22 | Kofif | ok i guess we can give it a shot. |
| 02:19.24 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:19.34 | Kofif | init 6 |
| 02:19.37 | andax | Kofif: enable USB HID support in the kernel if it's not working. |
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| 02:19.45 | Kofif | yeah i know |
| 02:19.48 | Kofif | how to use USB |
| 02:19.59 | abrotman | jsut restart the machien with it plugged in |
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| 02:20.21 | Kofif | yep |
| 02:20.22 | cleit0n | dvs: not configure right |
| 02:20.26 | boxy | abrotman, nvm i got it |
| 02:20.28 | Kofif | that's what going on as we speak. |
| 02:20.32 | abrotman | boxy: yay! |
| 02:20.33 | boxy | i <3 aptitude :) |
| 02:20.38 | boxy | well its installing anyways |
| 02:20.42 | boxy | idk about if it'll work right haha |
| 02:20.48 | Kofif | dosnt work. |
| 02:20.56 | Kofif | same issue. |
| 02:21.10 | Kofif | and if i try to click the numlock |
| 02:21.17 | crn | arcane, wajig |
| 02:21.20 | boxy | abrotman, i might have fixed the firefox prob |
| 02:21.21 | Kofif | it stays on anyway i cannot change it |
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| 02:21.39 | abrotman | boxy: that's always a good side effect |
| 02:21.44 | abrotman | Kofif: which kernel did you boot ? |
| 02:21.51 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
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| 02:22.34 | boxy | mmm gnome is still sucking though |
| 02:22.35 | abrotman | Kofif: if you boot back into 2.2 with your ps2 keyboard plugged in .. i want you to try osmething |
| 02:22.43 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:22.51 | Kofif | rebootin |
| 02:23.03 | Kofif | but it will take some time |
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| 02:23.12 | Kofif | fsck ... |
| 02:23.17 | Kofif | because it was stuck |
| 02:23.24 | Kofif | an i never skip those :] |
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| 02:24.04 | Kofif | im going to get that smoke i talked about an hour ago. |
| 02:24.07 | odla | what's the keyword for me to ask dpkg about why a package isn't in testing |
| 02:24.08 | Kofif | brb |
| 02:24.24 | arcane | i installed ntpd-simple, but my date/time is still wrong ;( |
| 02:24.52 | andax | arcane: tzconfig? |
| 02:25.12 | abrotman | !why is odla not in testing |
| 02:25.12 | dpkg | odla is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=odla |
| 02:25.21 | odla | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:25.22 | dvs | ha! |
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| 02:25.41 | crn | arcane, apt-cache show ntpdate |
| 02:25.43 | arcane | andax, its correct |
| 02:26.32 | Kofif | arcane ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov |
| 02:26.34 | andax | arcane: then run rdate time.nist.gov, and it will be fine |
| 02:26.58 | abrotman | use pool.ntp.org |
| 02:27.03 | abrotman | never ever hit a server directly |
| 02:27.04 | arcane | crn, sorry im new too debian - it told me about the package, nothing jumps out saying it is installed tho |
| 02:27.12 | Kofif | ? |
| 02:27.17 | Kofif | why not directly |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | go read ntp.org |
| 02:27.30 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:27.31 | crn | arcane, apt-get install ntpdate |
| 02:27.33 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:27.35 | arcane | isnt rdate completely seperate too ntp, and rdate would need to be cron'd etc? |
| 02:27.48 | andax | arcane: that's correct. |
| 02:28.05 | arcane | so ntp is the best choice as it will constantly work out and keep the clock in order? |
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| 02:28.37 | Kofif | its mainly used to keep your logs dates correct. |
| 02:28.38 | arcane | how long does it normally take, my system is in tommorrow still |
| 02:28.39 | dvs | arcane: yup. ntpdate only updates on startup |
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| 02:28.51 | molinero | I need reconfigure cups |
| 02:28.56 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:29.08 | Kofif | abrotman ready as root. |
| 02:29.11 | crn | arcane, yep after you run ntpdate to get the time time close enough to be updated. |
| 02:29.13 | arcane | well if the server is up alot, then the date will fly out of order? what can i do about that |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | Kofif: first .. paste your sources in #flood |
| 02:29.52 | arcane | i tried too run ntpdate against pool.ntp.org and got 12 Jan 22:28:08 ntpdate[4618]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 02:29.55 | Kofif | sources off ? |
| 02:29.57 | arcane | :O |
| 02:31.25 | boxy | abrotman, even firefox 1.0.7 doesn't like me |
| 02:31.32 | dvs | !hate boxy |
| 02:31.33 | dpkg | I hate you, boxy! |
| 02:31.35 | arcane | a quick ps tells me that ntp is running in the background, is that doing what i need it too? |
| 02:31.40 | boxy | :P |
| 02:31.45 | boxy | what's that for dvs? |
| 02:32.00 | dvs | boxy: Hey, you said firefox doesn't like you. ;-) |
| 02:32.05 | boxy | haha |
| 02:32.06 | boxy | that too. |
| 02:32.16 | boxy | idk it keeps hanging more than m left nut |
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| 02:32.21 | odla | boxy: use something else? |
| 02:32.24 | abrotman | Kofif: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade .. how many does it want to upgrae ? |
| 02:32.27 | abrotman | upgrade ? |
| 02:32.27 | odla | boxy: try dillo |
| 02:32.41 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:33.00 | brsmuniz | Hi people, do anyone knows if have brazilian's comunity here? |
| 02:33.03 | Kofif | only 1.5Mbit and bad routeing :] |
| 02:33.21 | dvs | why do brazilians like boasting from Brazil? |
| 02:33.33 | Kofif | its stuck on 47% [Connecting to non-us.debian.org (194.109.137.218)] |
| 02:33.43 | boxy | dillo isn't text based is it? |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | Kofif: hit ctrl-c . do it again |
| 02:33.51 | odla | boxy: no |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:33.56 | boxy | kay good |
| 02:33.56 | brsmuniz | ok thanks a lot |
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| 02:34.38 | King_Brad | how would i go about changing a users homeDir after i've created the user? |
| 02:34.43 | boxy | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 02:34.46 | boxy | whats up with this? |
| 02:34.51 | dvs | boxy: /topic |
| 02:34.52 | Kofif | <King_Brad> edit the /etc/passwd |
| 02:34.56 | crn | arcane, ntp should be runing. But the protocol is udp. |
| 02:35.10 | abrotman | boxy: /topic |
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| 02:35.36 | arcane | crn, shouldnt my date/time be correct by now? |
| 02:35.49 | ^ATOMIC^ | how can i tell tar only to extract a certain folder from a tar archive? |
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| 02:36.06 | arcane | crn, as in it should have contacted one of the servers in the pool and changed my system date too match....? |
| 02:36.09 | boxy | whats the pkg for gpg? |
| 02:36.11 | csch | hi guys... |
| 02:36.11 | Kofif | abrotman its all up to date. |
| 02:36.14 | jilocasin | 'ello all |
| 02:36.14 | arcane | altho remember ntpdate didnt match |
| 02:36.22 | boxy | nvm |
| 02:36.25 | boxy | gnupg? |
| 02:36.25 | csch | where the iptables rules are stored in debian |
| 02:36.26 | crn | arcane, when ntpdate runs it will be correct. ntpdate will show the offset. |
| 02:36.26 | abrotman | Kofif: how many did it update ? |
| 02:36.27 | jilocasin | Can someone direct me to the "debian" way of upgrading the kernel |
| 02:36.33 | Kofif | None. |
| 02:36.34 | csch | the default iptables rules ? |
| 02:36.44 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:36.46 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 02:36.50 | Malagmyr | wouldn't it be nice if we all greeted the new arrivals? all at once, every time? |
| 02:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the one not upgraded ? |
| 02:37.09 | Kofif | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
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| 02:37.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.29 | arcane | crn, and the ntp in the background will then keep it correct forevermore ? |
| 02:37.40 | crn | arcane, it will return the offset when it has run correctly |
| 02:37.50 | arcane | so i just wait? |
| 02:37.51 | crn | arcane, in my experience, yes |
| 02:38.18 | boxy | mmm i see dillo doesn't support css |
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| 02:38.33 | nevyn | ok |
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| 02:38.54 | kspath | poop on a stick! |
| 02:39.01 | crn | arcane, when I run it it is pretty fast in returning. But my date is correct. Not a day off. |
| 02:39.12 | nevyn | tinyerp-server doesn't initialise it's database correctly |
| 02:39.18 | arcane | crn, when you run ntpdate ? |
| 02:39.26 | nevyn | how severe is this bug? |
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| 02:39.38 | crn | arcane, only to initialize. |
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| 02:39.45 | dvs | arcane: it only runs at startup |
| 02:39.49 | Kofif | no idea then how to fix this |
| 02:39.59 | arcane | ill do a reboot then |
| 02:40.12 | csch | where the default iptables rules are stored on debian ? |
| 02:40.25 | Kofif | how do i reconfigure the keyboard locale settings ? |
| 02:40.31 | Kofif | its currently on he_IL |
| 02:40.36 | nevyn | so if you initialise the database using the upstream tarball it all works |
| 02:40.41 | asg | csch: read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
| 02:40.41 | Kofif | i think THAT'S the problem. |
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| 02:41.52 | live | Hello |
| 02:42.00 | asg | nevyn: web based reporting of what? |
| 02:42.03 | dvs | live: Good day, eh? |
| 02:42.08 | nevyn | asg: bugs |
| 02:42.17 | live | HI I'm on my xebian xbox |
| 02:42.24 | dvs | !xebian |
| 02:42.24 | dpkg | hmm... xebian is http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian. See #xbox-linux on oftc.net. XEBIAN IS NOT DEBIAN! |
| 02:42.24 | Kofif | how do i change the terminal locale settings ? |
| 02:42.31 | asg | nevyn: erm, it does; unless you mean submitting bugs |
| 02:42.31 | dvs | ;-0 |
| 02:42.31 | Kofif | !dpkg change locale |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
| 02:42.37 | Fujoor | is there anyway to change the text before the loginscreen, for example, to put some ascii art there? |
| 02:42.38 | Kofif | !dpkg locale |
| 02:42.38 | dpkg | locale is probably something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 02:42.40 | nevyn | asg: submitting is what I ment |
| 02:42.44 | live | thank you dpkg |
| 02:42.44 | dpkg | live: sure thing |
| 02:42.48 | Kofif | !dpkg keyboard settings |
| 02:42.59 | asg | nevyn: *nod* |
| 02:43.03 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:43.05 | csch | asg: I added some rules directly on iptables |
| 02:43.09 | csch | using iptables command |
| 02:43.30 | csch | now I want to save then to maintain the same after reboot |
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| 02:43.33 | nevyn | reportbug is great but requiring working mail is a hassle in these false positive spam prevention gone nuts days |
| 02:43.54 | csch | ./etc/init.d/iptables save active is the correct way ? |
| 02:43.58 | Guerin | nevyn: give over. It's not that bad. |
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| 02:44.18 | nevyn | Guerin: it is if you're not using smarthost |
| 02:44.21 | crn | csch, man iptables-save |
| 02:44.23 | asg | csch: use iptables-save > foo ; iptables-restore < foo (the preferred way is via 'up' stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces, though the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/iptables indicate other options.) |
| 02:44.31 | nevyn | even then smarthost is a hack. |
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| 02:44.44 | Kofif | i forgot the command that change it :\ |
| 02:44.45 | Hamled | how woudl I setup a bind zone record so that for example, subdom.mydomain.tld has an A record, and then mydomain.tld has a CNAME record that points to that A record? |
| 02:44.53 | nevyn | the number of people using DUL's keeps going up and up. |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the package that won't upgrade? |
| 02:45.08 | nevyn | the collateral damage keeps expanding |
| 02:45.08 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.09 | kwikky23 | hi #debian...i just installed via a netinstall but it appears that libusb is not present....how do I install libusb support? |
| 02:45.33 | odla | kwikky23: apt-cache search libusb |
| 02:45.37 | csch | asg: but when I start debian some rules are loaded right ? |
| 02:45.46 | csch | where this rules are stored ? |
| 02:45.46 | abrotman | Kofif: are there any settings in the bios related ot the keyboard? |
| 02:45.53 | Guerin | nevyn: you're saying you don't have working mail ANYWHERE? |
| 02:45.54 | csch | there is a default firewall in debian ? |
| 02:45.57 | Kofif | not realy. |
| 02:46.10 | Azar | kwikky23: you installed with the 2.4.x. kernel? |
| 02:46.10 | Kofif | just a plain brand new ps keyboard. |
| 02:46.12 | nevyn | Guerin: no. |
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| 02:46.24 | kwikky23 | Azar: yes |
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| 02:46.30 | nevyn | Guerin: but I don't on my workstation where I often find these bugs |
| 02:46.30 | asg | csch: no, there isn't. There was in Debian 3.0 but that has been changed in 3.1. |
| 02:46.39 | nevyn | heh |
| 02:46.49 | Azar | kwikky23: the 2.6.8 kernel will give you the support you need |
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| 02:47.11 | Azar | kwikky23: either reinstall with the 2.6 kernel or just install the 2.6.8 for your architecture |
| 02:47.28 | kwikky23 | Azar: i used the netinstall from last night and it seems to have installed 2.4...why did it do that? |
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| 02:47.56 | dvs | kwikky23: 2.4 is the default with no options |
| 02:47.56 | Azar | kwikky23: thats the default, you have to ask for kernel 2.6 in order to get it |
| 02:48.18 | nevyn | csch: no. |
| 02:48.20 | neuterspAWAY | How can I get my version of apt-get to include Firefox 1.5 through repository? |
| 02:48.22 | Kofif | abrotman my keyboard is configured as he_IL , how can i change it back to us ? |
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| 02:48.31 | Azar | how is Sarge installer requested for the 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:48.35 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 02:48.35 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 02:48.38 | Azar | I never used Sarge installer? |
| 02:48.40 | abrotman | Azar: linux26 |
| 02:48.45 | crn | csch, google for a readme the use asg's advice about the up stanzas. You can load the firewall right after ppp comes up. |
| 02:49.02 | Azar | kwikky23: there, abrotman told you |
| 02:49.33 | kwikky23 | (sigh) debian is proving to be challenging! |
| 02:49.43 | Kofif | ok rebooting. |
| 02:49.45 | Kofif | lets see |
| 02:49.47 | kwikky23 | ok...so how do go to 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:50.04 | Azar | kwikky23: what CPU you have? |
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| 02:50.09 | dvs | kwikky23: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 02:50.12 | kwikky23 | PIII 650 |
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| 02:50.49 | Azar | kwikky23: at command line, as root type apt-cache search kernel-image look at the list and write down the 2.6.8 kernel appropriate for your CPU |
| 02:51.00 | nichos | hi all, my apt is stuck, keeps telling me to apt-get -f install, which fails. Ive tried dpkg --force-all --purge and it keeps saying "ignoring request to remove X which isnt installed" |
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| 02:51.17 | Azar | kwikky23: then type aptitude install kernel-image.x.x.x.x.x.x x being the specifics you pick |
| 02:51.20 | crn | no one here has tried the skype deb? |
| 02:51.23 | Guerin | nevyn: put the output of apt-get -f install; on paster |
| 02:51.26 | Guerin | crn: no. |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | crn: skype isn't in debina |
| 02:51.32 | Azar | kwikky23: the kernel you want is 2.6.8 |
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| 02:51.51 | nichos | Guerin was that for? |
| 02:51.52 | crn | Guerin, abrotman thanks |
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| 02:52.11 | nevyn | Guerin: ? |
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| 02:52.26 | nevyn | I can't find a severity arcane |
| 02:52.28 | Kofif | hey |
| 02:52.32 | Kofif | abrotman |
| 02:52.33 | Guerin | nevyn: sorry |
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| 02:52.36 | Kofif | awk:~# uname -a |
| 02:52.36 | Kofif | Linux awk 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 02:52.38 | Kofif | :D |
| 02:52.39 | Guerin | nichos: that was for you |
| 02:52.42 | odla | crn: skype is in debian-unofficial |
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| 02:52.45 | nichos | Guerin hehe, k, one sec:) |
| 02:53.13 | nevyn | so if a package doesn't initialised itself correctly that's important from my reading |
| 02:53.25 | nevyn | affects the usability of the package for most users |
| 02:53.28 | nichos | Guerin http://channels.debian.net/paste/1539 |
| 02:53.47 | nevyn | bleh grave |
| 02:54.00 | Guerin | nichos: wtf is 'initialised' in this case? |
| 02:54.29 | nichos | Guerin initialised? what do you mean? |
| 02:54.35 | drp | ok so I just installed a new kernel (2.6 k7) and I'm having some trouble with loading my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:54.45 | drp | whenever I try to run startx as myself i get these errors |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | Kofif: it works ? |
| 02:54.50 | Guerin | nichos: fuck, my tabcomplete is random today |
| 02:54.53 | drp | http://rafb.net/paste/results/qBzGoq39.html |
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| 02:55.12 | Kofif | apt-get install `apt-cache search xfce | awk {'print $1'} :DDD |
| 02:55.16 | Kofif | abrotman Yes |
| 02:55.24 | abrotman | Kofif: just the keymap? |
| 02:55.27 | Guerin | nichos: dpkg -P knetworkconf |
| 02:55.30 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:55.35 | abrotman | that sucks |
| 02:55.37 | Kofif | i had it set as he_IL |
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| 02:55.49 | Kofif | and the new kernel didnt know how to work with that language. |
| 02:55.49 | nichos | Guerin i get this: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove knetworkconf which isn't installed. |
| 02:56.09 | Kofif | downloaing xfce4 at 200kb/sec |
| 02:56.10 | Kofif | :] |
| 02:56.36 | Kofif | will have a sweet desktop in no time! ( if i still remeber the xfree86config issues lol ) |
| 02:56.40 | Guerin | nichos: ok, so that package is being installed to correct dependencies. |
| 02:56.41 | deadcat | i got windows to print through my CUPS printer via IPP. but having problem via linux to linux (= |
| 02:56.48 | drp | should i paste my XFSConf too? |
| 02:56.50 | Kofif | thank you for your time man , |
| 02:56.57 | Kofif | if you need anything just ask :] |
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| 02:57.17 | Guerin | nichos: file conflicts like that (two packages containing the same file) should never happen in official debian sources. |
| 02:57.17 | deadcat | Kofif: what you got? |
| 02:57.19 | _Sam-- | there is no way to do bootsplash without making a new kernel for sarge? |
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| 02:57.30 | deadcat | _Sam--: nope. |
| 02:57.37 | deadcat | _Sam--: try splashy |
| 02:57.43 | _Sam-- | thanks will have a look! |
| 02:57.53 | Kofif | deadcat ? what man ? |
| 02:57.59 | _Sam-- | that gets run through initrd? |
| 02:58.23 | nichos | Guerin so removing a source, apt get updating should work? |
| 02:58.24 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya |
| 02:58.35 | deadcat | Kofif: 18:56 < Kofif> if you need anything just ask :] |
| 02:58.41 | Kofif | lol |
| 02:58.42 | _Sam-- | sweet gonna give it shot THANKS. |
| 02:58.59 | Kofif | i manage a small data center :P |
| 02:59.09 | Guerin | nichos: no, because you already have some broken shit installed. You can either uninstall whatever is bringing in this broken package, or do this: dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/knetworkconf_whatever.deb |
| 02:59.12 | Kofif | wanna rent a box ?:P |
| 02:59.25 | kwikky23 | ok..i'm on 2.6.8 kernel now...but not getting expected results....i'm trying to install OWFS and it says I should check libusb support with this command: find /usr/lib -name "libusb.*" |
| 02:59.42 | kwikky23 | but that command yields no results |
| 02:59.42 | jcurry | deadcat, what is this splashy you speak of? can i find it in debian? |
| 02:59.55 | nichos | Guerin lifesaver:) |
| 02:59.56 | Guerin | !owfs |
| 03:00.25 | deadcat | jcurry: deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 03:00.27 | Guerin | kwikky23: wtf is owfs? |
| 03:00.38 | jcurry | deadcat, thanks! |
| 03:00.46 | kwikky23 | Guerin: One Wire File System see it at owfs.sourceforge.net |
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| 03:01.13 | _Sam-- | weird, the splash sourceforge page says its listed in the debian packages now...apt-search shows nothing |
| 03:01.21 | _Sam-- | er splashy sourceforge page |
| 03:01.24 | nichos | Guerin thanks a lot |
| 03:01.28 | kwikky23 | Guerin: it's for temperature sensing and control |
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| 03:01.49 | _Sam-- | apt-cache search too :) |
| 03:01.54 | deadcat | _Sam--: in experimental maybe. |
| 03:02.00 | _Sam-- | i get a million sources |
| 03:02.16 | Guerin | kwikky23: what gives you that instruction? |
| 03:02.28 | Guerin | kwikky23: the find instruction, i mean |
| 03:02.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: http://owfs.sourceforge.net/install.html |
| 03:02.56 | kwikky23 | Guerin: under section 2 check prerequisites |
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| 03:03.24 | Guerin | kwikky23: apt-cache show libusb; you'll probably ened -dev packages |
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| 03:03.43 | pawdro | how can i remove ONLY totem? im not sure if i should apt-get remove totem, because it wants also remove gnome gnome-desktop-enviroment and totem (but only 77.8 kb will be removed from disc) |
| 03:04.19 | Guerin | pawdro: it just removes the metapackage; no big deal. |
| 03:04.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: says" Unable to locate package libusb" "No packages found"...suggestions for installing/getting? |
| 03:04.49 | pawdro | Guerin: so accept removing? |
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| 03:06.28 | _Sam-- | deadcat THANKS>..i think this is going to work out great. |
| 03:06.39 | _Sam-- | do i need to mkinitrd for the splashy? |
| 03:06.40 | Guerin | pawdro: sure |
| 03:06.57 | deadcat | _Sam--: no. you dont have to do anything. |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | awk:~# xdebconfigurator |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/ddcprobe NOT found! |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/hwinfo NOT found! |
| 03:07.15 | Kofif | how can i fix this ? :\ |
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| 03:07.22 | deadcat | Kofif: install those 2 |
| 03:07.25 | _Sam-- | it will automagically do its thing next time i reboot without even doing anything other than installing it? |
| 03:07.35 | Kofif | what's the packages names i cannot seem to fin |
| 03:07.38 | boxy | which kernel in testing should i install 2.6.8 or 2.6.12? |
| 03:07.56 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. make sure your boot loader has vga that supports 1024x768 or so. thats it |
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| 03:08.03 | Kofif | oo found hwinfo :] |
| 03:08.07 | deadcat | Kofif: apt-cache search |
| 03:08.12 | _Sam-- | awesome...thanks so much, again....back in 2! |
| 03:08.21 | deadcat | boxy: latest might be always better |
| 03:08.30 | Kofif | found em |
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| 03:08.44 | boxy | heh well i have 2.6.15-1-686 but im going from unstable to testing also |
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| 03:08.52 | eder_20 | hi |
| 03:08.53 | boxy | cause unstable is causing problems. lol |
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| 03:08.57 | kwikky23 | sorry for being such a N00b, but I'm looking at http://libusb.sourceforge.net/ and it's not clear to me how Install that package in debian...can someone steer me in the right direction? |
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| 03:10.07 | jcurry | kwikky23, 'apt-get install libusb-0.1-4' as root? |
| 03:10.58 | _Sam-- | worked...but i thought you said it ran from initrd |
| 03:11.06 | _Sam-- | it doesnt load up until root is mounted and init is run |
| 03:11.20 | deadcat | oh. |
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| 03:11.25 | _Sam-- | but better than nothing! |
| 03:11.29 | deadcat | i dont use it no more. |
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| 03:11.43 | deadcat | sucked on ppc. doesnt work actually. they too lazy to build |
| 03:11.44 | _Sam-- | it serves its purpose fine for what im trying to do |
| 03:11.55 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. |
| 03:12.08 | kwikky23 | jcurry: is that going to be the same package as on libusb.sourceforge.net |
| 03:12.10 | odla | crap i am trying to upgrade to testing from sarge and udev won't install |
| 03:12.11 | _Sam-- | was wondering how it was going to run from initrd if im not making a new initrd |
| 03:13.01 | Guerin | odla: need new kernel |
| 03:13.08 | odla | Guerin: for it to install? |
| 03:13.14 | Guerin | odla: remove udev, upgrade, install new kernel, install udev |
| 03:13.21 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:13.26 | Guerin | braindead, but true |
| 03:13.40 | odla | Guerin: it won't let me remove udev |
| 03:14.08 | Kofif | Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. |
| 03:14.09 | Guerin | odla: tell it to improve its attitude |
| 03:14.11 | Kofif | :\ |
| 03:14.18 | jcurry | kwikky23, i have no clue...but it should be reasonably similar, i should think... |
| 03:14.21 | odla | Guerin: how ;)? |
| 03:14.34 | Guerin | odla: why is it being truculent? |
| 03:14.47 | odla | Guerin: it wants me to apt-get -f install |
| 03:14.57 | odla | Guerin: when i do that it says no it won't do it |
| 03:14.59 | asg | Guerin: don't scare them with the big words |
| 03:15.01 | odla | Guerin: hold on i'll paste it |
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| 03:16.20 | odla | Guerin: hang on...i tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade and things look ok for the moment...back to listen to abrotman mp3s |
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| 03:17.05 | Guerin | bah ... the 4.2.2.* dns servers are flaking out on me |
| 03:17.08 | Guerin | who's got some others? |
| 03:17.12 | Kofif | i run xdebconfigurator and i get : Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. <<--- how can i fix this issue ? |
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| 03:17.53 | z36ra | how do you get snd-virmidi to load automatically? |
| 03:18.35 | z36ra | sarge |
| 03:18.57 | Guerin | z36ra: echo snd-virmidi >> /etc/modules |
| 03:19.05 | odla | udev error http://pastebin.com/501919 |
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| 03:19.16 | shadow98 | where does samba store its wins info |
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| 03:19.54 | Guerin | odla: for a start, sort your locale issues out |
| 03:20.15 | odla | Guerin: how? |
| 03:20.36 | Guerin | odla: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:20.43 | Guerin | odla: aptitude purge udev |
| 03:21.11 | odla | dpkg-reconfigure locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 03:23.14 | odla | oh boy |
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| 03:23.31 | Guerin | odla: ok, so just ignore it and purge udev |
| 03:23.42 | abrotman | the answer to life |
| 03:23.49 | Kofif | what should i use " gdm " or " xdm " to manage my xfce ? |
| 03:23.54 | odla | Guerin: i am running aptitude purge udev and the strangest shit is happening |
| 03:23.59 | shadow98 | if i change /etc/hosts file do i need to flush anything for changes to take effect |
| 03:24.15 | elessar7x | do you know how to enable /dev/sda ? |
| 03:24.17 | odla | Guerin: the terminal is scrolling out of control with a million parser errors |
| 03:24.32 | elessar7x | it appears I have lost both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 03:24.40 | Guerin | odla: welcome to why udev is the bane of all life |
| 03:24.43 | elessar7x | after the compilation of the kernel |
| 03:24.51 | odla | Guerin: udev sucks i want hotplug back |
| 03:24.54 | centrx | Kofif, you can use either |
| 03:24.58 | abrotman | why did you compile your own kernel elessar7x ? |
| 03:25.03 | Kofif | whats recommended |
| 03:25.12 | odla | Guerin: will it ever stop? |
| 03:25.19 | abrotman | Kofif: whichever you prefer . there is no recommended |
| 03:25.33 | elessar7x | for drivers ... |
| 03:25.36 | centrx | Kofif, gdm is prettier and probably more featureful, but for all but the most convoluted and complex purposes they are probably identical for your purposes |
| 03:25.38 | abrotman | that's vague |
| 03:25.51 | Guerin | odla: Please insert coins to play 'Crystal Ball' |
| 03:25.52 | centrx | Kofif, i should replace probably with possibly more developed currently |
| 03:25.59 | odla | what's all this shit about oasis-open.org |
| 03:26.02 | centrx | Kofif, that is under more development |
| 03:26.04 | shadow98 | anybody know what i have to do it get /etc/hosts file to update |
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| 03:26.25 | abrotman | shadow98: why would you need to update it ? |
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| 03:27.03 | shadow98 | i had wrong ip in there for one of my hosts that i moved to the dmz |
| 03:27.10 | abrotman | so change it |
| 03:27.18 | shadow98 | im using samba as wins server |
| 03:27.38 | odla | Guerin: holy fuck...it worked...i think |
| 03:27.40 | shadow98 | so when i ping debian box that was on the lan it is pointing to old ip |
| 03:27.48 | shadow98 | not the new ip in the dmz |
| 03:27.53 | newjunk | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:28.12 | abrotman | shadow98: so change the IP in your hosts file .. or restart wins ? |
| 03:28.15 | shadow98 | it didn't start even trying to resolve address until i put the wins server in |
| 03:28.29 | shadow98 | so its has something to do with samba or something on the debian box |
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| 03:29.13 | odla | Guerin: so should i upgrade my kernel then reinstall udev? |
| 03:30.09 | shadow98 | ok if i put the samba server in wins and when i ping it it points to old ip...where is this info stored in samba/debian |
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| 03:30.24 | shadow98 | i just restarted samba server that didn't work |
| 03:30.26 | kwikky23 | Guerin and everyone...thank you for your assistance...nothing is going smoothly with my debian install so I think I'm going back to Fedora Core4...but I do appreciate your help |
| 03:31.13 | khermans_ | Is there a way to allow my non-root user to have more paths for libs? I am not able to edit /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 03:31.25 | Flimzy | shadow98: look in /etc/resolv.conf... and check DNS |
| 03:31.48 | Flimzy | shadow98: And BTW, in every experience I've run into, DNS makes more sense than WINS |
| 03:31.54 | raf256 | khermans_: isnt there like export LD_PRELOADF |
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| 03:32.10 | Guerin | odla: yes |
| 03:32.13 | afabian | khermans_, LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, I think. But I don't know, just coming up with a 'jumping off point' for a search. |
| 03:32.20 | odla | Guerin: thanks for the help |
| 03:32.34 | shadow98 | not in etc/resolve |
| 03:32.56 | odla | Guerin: one more question...why did aptitude purge udev work and apt-get remove --purge udev not? |
| 03:32.58 | raf256 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/06/msg00327.html |
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| 03:34.06 | xam | shadow98: your samba server stores it in /var/lib/samba/wins.dat |
| 03:34.22 | z36ra | ok the module loads but now sound doesnt work in kde... ho hum |
| 03:34.52 | z36ra | no jack, oss alsa... nada brutha |
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| 03:35.19 | z36ra | gotta love this free debian stuf. |
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| 03:35.39 | khermans_ | afabian, that worked, thanks dude :-) |
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| 03:36.11 | z36ra | and stable |
| 03:36.25 | Guerin | odla: aptitude is smarter than apt-get when it comes to traversing dependencies |
| 03:36.27 | abrotman | stable? ... my debian crashes every 5 minutes |
| 03:36.34 | afabian | khermans_, it's what I have to show for my mis-spent youth. ;) |
| 03:36.38 | z36ra | i hear ya |
| 03:36.48 | khermans_ | afabian, how old now? |
| 03:36.50 | khermans_ | ;-/ |
| 03:36.52 | abrotman | it's probably because i keep just jamming cards in the PCI slots |
| 03:36.52 | odla | Guerin: so should i just use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 03:36.57 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:37.03 | odla | Guerin: ok..thanks |
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| 03:37.09 | z36ra | hell anything is better than windows |
| 03:37.10 | afabian | khermans_, I'm exaggerating more than a little. I'm 25, though. |
| 03:37.10 | shadow98 | there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.15 | khermans_ | lol |
| 03:37.19 | shadow98 | xam: there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.20 | abrotman | shadow98: did you restart samba ? |
| 03:37.23 | Kerr | is Vores l debian? .. and does anyone know where i can get some? |
| 03:37.24 | shadow98 | yes |
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| 03:37.35 | z36ra | ide be crashing every 4 minutes |
| 03:37.48 | abrotman | shadow98: and the other one .. wind .. or winbind .. whatever it's called |
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| 03:38.00 | shadow98 | yes |
| 03:38.30 | shadow98 | amd i flushed dns on my windows machine |
| 03:38.56 | abrotman | flushed dns ? |
| 03:39.13 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. |
| 03:39.15 | Waggie | Any ideas? |
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| 03:39.25 | Flimzy | The next thing to do, then, is to flush your windows machine :P |
| 03:39.45 | SperMite | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:39.46 | Waggie | Gotta agree with ya there, Flimzy. :) |
| 03:40.02 | Waggie | SperMite: Which directory are you in? |
| 03:40.05 | z36ra | sound system went to hell after adding vir-midi to /etc/modules |
| 03:40.14 | z36ra | any suggestions |
| 03:40.16 | z36ra | ? |
| 03:40.20 | shadow98 | abortman: also when i do nbtstat -c it shows the correct address for debian |
| 03:40.23 | shadow98 | box |
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| 03:40.35 | shadow98 | but when i try to ping it doesn't resolve correct address |
| 03:40.45 | SperMite | Waggie Devin:/usr/src# make menuconfig |
| 03:40.58 | shadow98 | well it works |
| 03:40.59 | z36ra | oops snd-virmidi |
| 03:41.04 | Waggie | SperMite: Try to chdir to /usr/src/linux/ |
| 03:41.06 | shadow98 | if i go to share by name it works |
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| 03:41.08 | Aid` | Why cant I see any pictures when im playing movies/videos? I can hear the audio but cant see the picture :(. Any ideas? |
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| 03:41.49 | raf256 | Aid`: is monitor turned on? are you blind? |
| 03:42.02 | Aid` | it is |
| 03:42.03 | shadow98 | now its pinging |
| 03:42.06 | raf256 | Aid`: also, try other output devices |
| 03:42.06 | Aid` | the screen is just green |
| 03:42.07 | shadow98 | just took it a minute |
| 03:42.09 | Flimzy | Aid`: What program are you using? Do you get an error? Do you have the proper codec(s) installed? |
| 03:42.17 | raf256 | Aid`: -vo x11 |
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| 03:42.31 | Aid` | raf256, what? |
| 03:42.34 | oozle | hi |
| 03:42.40 | oozle | I've a question... |
| 03:42.41 | raf256 | Aid`: add -vo x11 option to command line of mplayer |
| 03:42.46 | oozle | I've a question. Can someone enlighten me as to what was the nature of the lawsuit against people who used unix to construct operating systems like linux... |
| 03:42.48 | Aid` | im using wine |
| 03:42.52 | Aid` | erm xine |
| 03:42.54 | Aid` | :X |
| 03:43.07 | raf256 | Aid`: try mplayer |
| 03:43.16 | Aid` | when itry to add it i get wierd errors |
| 03:43.22 | Waggie | mplayer is superior to xine. |
| 03:43.28 | raf256 | try kaffeine |
| 03:43.32 | abrotman | oozle: that's a bit vague |
| 03:43.34 | Waggie | oozle: Check out groklaw.com |
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| 03:43.44 | oozle | groklaw.com? |
| 03:43.46 | Aid` | Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | is only available from another source |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate |
| 03:43.47 | abrotman | he could mean the BSD lawsuit |
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| 03:43.51 | Edgardoweb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.53 | Edgardoweb | * - /___\/ _ ___ |
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| 03:43.56 | Aid` | sorry |
| 03:43.57 | Edgardoweb | * - |( C '\ \ |-| |._ |
| 03:43.59 | Edgardoweb | * - ___ )_ _/ - | | | | |
| 03:44.00 | abrotman | Edgardoweb: STOP |
| 03:44.01 | raf256 | oozle: linux is used only by hackers and terrorists. dindt you read the M$ banner? |
| 03:44.01 | Edgardoweb | * - [___] / `\____ | | |_,' |
| 03:44.03 | Edgardoweb | * - | ^| / \_____/) |-|___| |
| 03:44.05 | Edgardoweb | * - | | / / _:::_))_(___ |
| 03:44.06 | Aid` | but thats what it says |
| 03:44.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 03:44.07 | Edgardoweb | * - | |/`-._/_ |___________| |
| 03:44.09 | Edgardoweb | * - '-;_|\_____ `\ ||"""""""""|| |
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| 03:44.10 | Waggie | Edgardoweb: Lamer. |
| 03:44.11 | raf256 | Edgardoweb: are you mentally retarded? |
| 03:44.31 | afabian | Heh. What is that, some urbane freenode kick? |
| 03:44.37 | oozle | abrotman yes I know, I'm sorry, I don't accurately recall what kind of lawsuit it was, but at the time it threatened to end efforts to use linux as a popular op system |
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| 03:44.50 | abrotman | oozle: there's the SCO lawsuit .. and the old BSD lawsuit |
| 03:44.52 | Aid` | im newer to debian what does it usually mean if a packing is not avaliable, or missing, or obsolete, or from another source |
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| 03:45.02 | Aid` | am i missing something in sources.list possibly? |
| 03:45.09 | raf256 | !mplayer |
| 03:45.09 | dpkg | from memory, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 03:45.20 | Waggie | Aid: You should probably add the merillat apt repository to your sources.list |
| 03:45.31 | Aid` | Waggie, where is that at |
| 03:45.34 | raf256 | !tell Aid` about marillat |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | !tell Aid` about |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:45.52 | raf256 | ;) |
| 03:45.59 | mrpen | hi, is there a way to change the resolution in the console windows, not in X? |
| 03:46.06 | raf256 | !tell me about sex baby, lets talk about you and me |
| 03:46.29 | Guerin | raf256: grow up. |
| 03:46.31 | Waggie | Aid: Send a privmsg to dpkg with the text 'mplayer faq' |
| 03:46.36 | raf256 | Guerin: noooooo |
| 03:46.37 | abrotman | and get the lyrics right |
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| 03:47.14 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 03:47.16 | Guerin | abrotman: go easy on him. That song was written about two decades before he even knew what sex was. |
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| 03:47.31 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 03:47.31 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 5 or 6 rabid kittens. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 03:47.40 | abrotman | Guerin: that song is .. like 15 years old .. i think |
| 03:47.47 | Guerin | abrotman: yes. |
| 03:47.50 | Aid` | whereis sources.list again? :$ |
| 03:47.57 | abrotman | /etc/apt/ |
| 03:48.10 | raf256 | Aid`: do backup, after changes do apt-get update as root |
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| 03:48.30 | psilikon | is the sarge netinst iso bootable? |
| 03:48.32 | sandman | How useful is COBOL these days? |
| 03:48.34 | Zenethian- | How do you tell what speed an ethernet card is running at? |
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| 03:48.42 | EdLin | psilikon: of course |
| 03:48.46 | Waggie | sandman: About as useful as a brick. |
| 03:48.59 | Waggie | Nevermind, not that useful, even. |
| 03:48.59 | sandman | Waggie: C programs are faster these days, yes? |
| 03:49.04 | psilikon | hmmm it is not booting for me but all the other bootable isos i burnt are working fine |
| 03:49.06 | Zenethian- | COBOL programmers make $120+ an hour (and thats in the midwest) but it's a dying profession |
| 03:49.08 | Waggie | Generally, yes. |
| 03:49.10 | psilikon | maybe a bad iso |
| 03:49.11 | Kofif | how can i make x detect my mouse correctly ? |
| 03:49.15 | Kofif | i get an error |
| 03:49.47 | Waggie | Kofif: The error would help.. |
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| 03:50.03 | sandman | Well, it seems to me that C is more functional, less inherently buggy, faster, and more portable. |
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| 03:50.11 | sandman | In other words, C is Just Plain Better. |
| 03:50.13 | raf256 | yet C++ is better |
| 03:50.15 | Waggie | Zenethian: I also don't KNOW any COBOL programmers outside of the midwest. |
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| 03:50.19 | psilikon | is there something that would make the ia64 version not bootable? |
| 03:50.26 | Aid` | isnt mplayer an official package of debian |
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| 03:50.28 | Guerin | !start a language war |
| 03:50.28 | dpkg | Pascal is faster than Lua |
| 03:50.29 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 <<-- ? |
| 03:50.31 | raf256 | psilikon: a hammer? |
| 03:50.36 | sandman | Well, no I made the comparison between COBOL and C because they are both structured languages. |
| 03:50.38 | Guerin | Aid`: no. |
| 03:50.41 | Waggie | Aid: No, because of patent issues. |
| 03:50.46 | Aid` | why doesn't apt-get work by default? for mplayer |
| 03:50.47 | xam | Zenethian-: if you networkcard driver supports it, install and run 'mii-tool' as root, or otherwise simply look up the bootlog, it might be mentioned there |
| 03:50.53 | Guerin | not explicitly because of patent issues |
| 03:50.59 | Waggie | Well, true.. My bad. |
| 03:51.13 | Guerin | Aid`: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 03:51.53 | Zenethian | xam, thanks. |
| 03:52.01 | Aid` | k |
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| 03:52.12 | psilikon | anyone know of some sarge iso mirrors? |
| 03:52.14 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
| 03:52.21 | Kofif | how can i detect my mouse ? mdetect wont find it .. |
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| 03:52.31 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 |
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| 03:53.02 | cleit0n | hi i install one USB joystick and i calibreted with jscalibrator but it dont work right, only run right and back... |
| 03:53.22 | Aid` | how do i setup marilatt |
| 03:53.29 | Aid` | marillat |
| 03:53.35 | xam | psilikon: mhh, last time I installed it on a ia64 was about 2 months ago, using the netinstall iso for testing. It worked fine (on a zx2000) |
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| 03:53.43 | Waggie | Kofif, USB mouse? |
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| 03:53.52 | Kofif | PS 2 |
| 03:54.05 | Kofif | hang on i think i found its config |
| 03:54.23 | Waggie | Aid: The instructions that dpkg gave you should tell you how. |
| 03:54.23 | Aid` | How do i setup the deb packages in sources.list |
| 03:54.28 | odla | slowly but surely i'll have my system updated |
| 03:54.36 | jilocasin | hi all |
| 03:54.49 | raf256 | Aid`: talk less, read more |
| 03:54.51 | Waggie | The config for the mouse in X11 is handled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 03:55.25 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can get gnome's resolution to be 1280x1024 at 75 (that's how it comes in under KDS and XFCE), but gnome insists on 60? |
| 03:55.33 | psilikon | xam: I must of just got a bad cd or something |
| 03:55.46 | Kofif | no |
| 03:55.49 | Kofif | im not useing xorg |
| 03:55.51 | raf256 | jilocasin: perhaps change xorg.cong / FXree86 settings |
| 03:56.07 | Waggie | Kofif: Do an 'ls -l /dev/mouse' |
| 03:56.11 | raf256 | jilocasin: start rotate and rand tool |
| 03:56.18 | cleit0n | anyone have .joystick to me |
| 03:56.20 | raf256 | jilocasin: krandrtray |
| 03:56.38 | sandman | The record i/o funcionality inherent in COBOL is kinda redundant, isn't it? Considering that most OS's have readahead and burst I/O, etc |
| 03:56.51 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
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| 03:57.06 | abrotman | sandbot: this is the wrong channel for programming language discussion |
| 03:57.11 | abrotman | especially about cobol :) |
| 03:57.22 | sandman | Where should I go? |
| 03:57.25 | isorox | #museum |
| 03:57.34 | xam | psilikon: maybe. But it could be taht the installer CDs are broken on ia64. Happens sometimes |
| 03:57.35 | Waggie | #depression on EfNet. :) |
| 03:57.51 | Kofif | Waggie no file.. |
| 03:57.54 | bjron | is there a way, in general, to determine which compile options were used to build the binaries in a package? |
| 03:57.59 | Kofif | ls: /dev/mouse: No such file or directory |
| 03:58.07 | isorox | Kofif, your mouse might be under /dev/psaux |
| 03:58.15 | Kofif | xdebconfigutaror tells me the mouse is /dev/input/mice |
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| 03:58.18 | afabian | apt-cache search cobol tells me that COBOL has about as much to do with Debian as leprechauns. |
| 03:58.20 | Waggie | isorox: It's configured for that. |
| 03:58.22 | Kofif | and protocol is ImPS/2 |
| 03:58.24 | jilocasin | raf256: xorg.conf setting are SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" |
| 03:58.27 | Kofif | but that osnt help. |
| 03:58.35 | Waggie | kofif: Does /dev/input/mice exist? |
| 03:58.46 | Kofif | i dont think so |
| 03:58.49 | jilocasin | raf256: what's rotate and rand tool, krandrtray? |
| 03:58.53 | munkys_com | hi what is a good PCI WLAN card for a slower Pentium 2 running Debian? |
| 03:58.56 | Waggie | 'ls -l /dev/input/mice' |
| 03:59.01 | raf256 | jilocasin: its a tool to change X resolution |
| 03:59.01 | Kofif | /dev/input/mice |
| 03:59.03 | Kofif | yes |
| 03:59.05 | Kofif | its there . |
| 03:59.09 | Waggie | Ok.. |
| 03:59.12 | psilikon | xam: if I ran the 32bit version would I loose any performance? I have a p4 dual core w/ the em64t |
| 03:59.20 | Waggie | Do 'ls -l /etc/X11/XF86Config' |
| 03:59.26 | Kofif | its there. |
| 03:59.33 | raf256 | jilocasin: although Im afriad it need KDE to work... perhaps try "xset" program |
| 03:59.37 | munkys_com | anyone have any experience with WLAN cards? |
| 03:59.49 | raf256 | !anyone |
| 03:59.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:59.55 | abrotman | #wireless |
| 04:00.16 | Waggie | Use your favorite text editor of choice and edit /etc/X11/XF86Config, then search for '/dev/mouse' and replace it with '/dev/input/mice' |
| 04:00.26 | hornhead | where can I get a list of all the debian mirrors? |
| 04:00.27 | Kofif | did so already. |
| 04:00.28 | abrotman | you shouldn't do that |
| 04:00.33 | Waggie | !ne1 |
| 04:00.33 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 04:00.36 | hornhead | nm |
| 04:00.37 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 04:00.37 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 04:00.47 | Waggie | abrotman: I gave bad advice? |
| 04:00.50 | Kofif | join flood look what i get |
| 04:00.55 | xam | psilikon: yes, it would be unbearably slow. Despite the fact that you can't install a 32bit (x86) debian on ia64. You can run x86 binaries however (if you install the ia32libs package) |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | Waggie: if you edit that file by hand .. dpkg-reconfigure won't work on sarge's xfree packages |
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| 04:01.17 | Waggie | Ah.. My bad. |
| 04:01.25 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:01.37 | Kofif | so i need to fix it |
| 04:01.52 | Waggie | I'm ever so used to editing my X config by hand. |
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| 04:02.03 | Kofif | me too. |
| 04:02.07 | psilikon | xam: I thought you could run 32bit Os's on em64t... i mean they still have the 32bit architecture.. it is not like it is an itanium chip |
| 04:02.14 | Kofif | well its all seems to work. |
| 04:02.44 | Kofif | still |
| 04:02.48 | Kofif | any configuration ill give it |
| 04:02.49 | hornhead | Is anyone else getting GPG errors from their apt-get updates? How can I correct this? |
| 04:02.50 | Kofif | same error |
| 04:03.00 | Kofif | No core pointer |
| 04:03.09 | Kofif | mdetect is not working , meaning dosnt find nothing . |
| 04:03.12 | xam | psilikon: I'm confused now. I thought you were talking about Itanium(2) ... at least you said 'ia64' earlier! |
| 04:03.22 | Whistleboy | anyone know if there is a 1.5 thunderbird package? |
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| 04:04.08 | psilikon | xam: yes i did... sorry |
| 04:04.12 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:04.41 | psilikon | xam: that is what deb calls the 64 bit version |
| 04:05.05 | Kofif | wierd problem |
| 04:05.06 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:05.12 | Waggie | Kofif: Out of morbid curiosity, have you tried testing all the hardware on this machine with a Live CD? |
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| 04:05.25 | xam | psilikon: no, ia64 are debs for the itanium machines |
| 04:05.31 | Kofif | no |
| 04:05.43 | Waggie | The Ubuntu live CD is a half-decent test of hardware. |
| 04:05.48 | psilikon | xam: so back to my first question. If i install the i386 version on my intel chip with the EM64T stuff will I be missing out on any performance? |
| 04:05.50 | Kofif | i found my old woody cd and decided to install it. |
| 04:05.54 | psilikon | xam: really? |
| 04:06.12 | xam | psilikon: yes. |
| 04:06.21 | Kofif | and i realy forgot all the basics :\ |
| 04:06.46 | Kofif | well , its only a mouse that stops me now from X |
| 04:06.58 | Kofif | mdetect is useless , any other tool like that? |
| 04:08.16 | xam | psilikon: for 32bit x86 (also known as ia32) on a em64t/amd64 machine it should run without any performance penalties |
| 04:08.53 | Waggie | Kofif: I dunno, I've never had any problems detecting mice before, not since the serial mouse days. |
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| 04:09.19 | el_macnifico | hola |
| 04:09.23 | Waggie | Kofif: Have you ever testing any OS on this system before? |
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| 04:09.35 | Waggie | Hello. |
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| 04:10.00 | psilikon | xam: thanks for straightening that out for me.... i really got confused |
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| 04:10.59 | xam | psilikon: no worries, it is kinda confusing I have to admit |
| 04:11.01 | Waggie | I'm having an issue with amavisd-new. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 04:11.18 | el_macnifico | somone knows about th project debian-arequipa??? |
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| 04:11.50 | el_macnifico | + |
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| 04:12.07 | dsl_ | Does anyone here happen to know why "nx", the low bandwidth remote desktop package, isn't in unstable? |
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| 04:12.30 | psilikon | i know I could google this but.. you guys might have a better idea. I am looking for a really good howto on updated the default kernel for sarge to say maybe 2.6.12 (i'm new to linux/debian) |
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| 04:12.48 | psilikon | updated=updating |
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| 04:14.23 | klync | psilikon: i'm currently reading: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 04:14.34 | jilocasin | 'ello again |
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| 04:14.49 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.51 | Waggie | psilikon: It's generally easy enough to do a package installation. |
| 04:14.52 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can change the fonts or desktop icon sizes in gnome? |
| 04:15.07 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.11 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.23 | Kofif | AMAN |
| 04:15.27 | Kofif | got X working |
| 04:15.27 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:15.28 | Kofif | :] |
| 04:15.45 | psilikon | klync: thanks |
| 04:15.49 | klync | psilikon: :) |
| 04:16.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: It's in your preferences. |
| 04:17.06 | psilikon | What if i start out with the base install (just console) and then add X and a WM later as I need it. Since the first thing I need to do it get my Dell's onboard NIC working and I wanna learn debian from the ground up. Good idea or bad idea. Oh plus I will have to struggle to get my ati vid card working |
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| 04:17.12 | klync | psilikon: at the risk of being flamed by the paranoid, i'll admit i do it all as root |
| 04:17.36 | klync | psilikon: good idea if you have another comp with a browser :) |
| 04:17.38 | jilocasin | Waggie: It says it's 10 pt, but it's the largest 10pt font I've ever seen |
| 04:17.51 | psilikon | klync: luckily I have my work laptop |
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| 04:18.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: What's your dpi set to? |
| 04:18.22 | klync | psilikon: ya, then for sure... do you know any other linuxes? |
| 04:18.30 | Waggie | jilocasin: and what's your screen resolution? |
| 04:18.46 | klync | or should i say gnu/*nix |
| 04:18.47 | jilocasin | Waggie: 1280x1024 on a 19" monitor |
| 04:18.53 | Waggie | brb.. |
| 04:19.05 | psilikon | klync: i messed with slackware years ago, then tried fedora, suse, mandrake and gnoppix |
| 04:19.17 | myren | I'm running 1400x1120 on my 19" but i'm a freak |
| 04:19.18 | psilikon | and mayeb other ones that I forgot about :) |
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| 04:20.19 | jilocasin | Waggie: the desktop icon's are about 1" square |
| 04:20.35 | erratic | can anyone help me disable this? nothing on google has helped : Reading package lists... Done |
| 04:20.39 | erratic | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 04:20.42 | erratic | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 04:20.44 | erratic | root@Alice:/etc/apt# |
| 04:20.51 | erratic | apparently a really big problem that alot of people are having and nobody is helping |
| 04:20.55 | seba | part #debian |
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| 04:20.57 | Guerin | !topicbadger erratic |
| 04:20.57 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that erratic didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 04:21.10 | erratic | fuck the topic |
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| 04:21.19 | Guerin | heh |
| 04:21.20 | klync | lol |
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| 04:21.38 | Guerin | that's his problem - he's trying to fuck it instead of reading it |
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| 04:22.09 | djperegrine | I have a usb device plugged in, but when I plugged it in lsusb doesn't change at all |
| 04:22.24 | djperegrine | what steps should I take to get it to reconize that it exists |
| 04:22.25 | afabian | can xmms play cds directly? |
| 04:22.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: In your 'Font Preferences' go to Detail, at the top is says what the resolution is. |
| 04:22.49 | klync | afabian: ya, just add the tracks to the playlist |
| 04:22.55 | afabian | ok, thanks. |
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| 04:23.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 96 |
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| 04:23.45 | psilikon | if the debian installer does not see my NIC is there anyway to just continue the install? |
| 04:24.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: So your desktop icons are extraordinarily large too, or just the fonts? |
| 04:24.28 | isorox | djperegrine, does dmesg report anything |
| 04:24.33 | jilocasin | Waggie: both |
| 04:24.50 | jilocasin | Waggie: the windows. widgets, etc. |
| 04:25.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: Try changing the dpi to a lower number, like 72. |
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| 04:26.57 | psilikon | oh i got it. just needed to enter 'no ethernet card' |
| 04:27.10 | Waggie | jilocasin: you're actually running at 1280x1024, with no panning? |
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| 04:27.28 | jilocasin | Waggie: yep, 19" monitor |
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| 04:27.52 | rapsys | Hy |
| 04:27.59 | rapsys | I have a problem with apt-get |
| 04:28.13 | rapsys | I get this : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 04:28.28 | rapsys | how can I fix that to add the proper key ? |
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| 04:29.48 | thedcm | is it true that "debian" is an ancient african swear word? |
| 04:29.56 | thedcm | I might be thinking of "unbuntu" |
| 04:30.06 | thedcm | "ubuntu" sorry |
| 04:30.07 | jpriest | I get the following error when installing the "testing" apt sources over network install floppies. "No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/etch".. stable installed fine, so I was wondering if this was a known problem with 'testing' and can it be fixed? |
| 04:30.14 | rapsys | ok |
| 04:30.18 | rapsys | I fixed that |
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| 04:31.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 72 is the right size, but it's all "fuzzy" |
| 04:31.22 | dondelelcaro | jpriest: just install the base of stable and upgrade, or use the etch d-i, or fix the debootstrap scripts. |
| 04:31.26 | jilocasin | Waggie: do yuo think I need a better font? |
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| 04:31.33 | Paul`` | Hi all. I'm trying to access a failed server running debian woody. I've got a KVM connection to the machine and during the boot process, it freezes after checking quotas. I'm wondering what I can do at this point to get to a prompt and figure out what's gone wrong on the machine. |
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| 04:31.49 | Paul`` | last message I see is "Checking quotas... Cannot get exact used space... Results might be inaccurate." |
| 04:32.12 | mboso | how do you find out what options a package was compiled with? and what library versions it was compiled against... |
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| 04:32.24 | brick | well Paul``, you can always boot from another medium and mount its disks |
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| 04:33.29 | jpriest | dondelelcaro, I upgraded to kernel 2.6 in stable and it showed a panic error on boot. I was hoping unstable configured 2.6 from the start without much trouble. Is it all that common for the "panic" error after upgrade? |
| 04:33.33 | Paul`` | brick: I don't want to go that route just yet as it means sending someone to the datacenter... is there any key combination I can enter to have it boot read only or something of that nature so that I can get in there and figure out what the problem might be? If I press CTRL-C at that prompt, it attempts to unlink a bunch of stuff and says it's starting the system log daemon |
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| 04:34.30 | brick | Paul``: i have no idea when that happens in the boot process or whether you can get around it booting off the same medium, but i doubt it. good luck |
| 04:35.06 | [Cadet] | Paul``: tried booting single user mode |
| 04:36.00 | zeballin3 | rapsys: for the gpg error see: http://debcentral.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=117&forum=8 |
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| 04:37.22 | khermans_ | How to add local library path for binaries to check? I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and that works when I am logged in remotely, but on this shared web server PHP's system/exec are not using it :-( Is there no way? |
| 04:37.57 | khermans_ | i assume this is because my user has no effect on the Apache environment variables |
| 04:40.15 | raf256 | why dmesg shows some messages that are not logged by sysklog? |
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| 04:40.34 | raf256 | how to make sysklog to log ALLLL messages? even *.* in /etc/syslog.conf didnt helped |
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| 04:43.00 | centrx | raf256, those messages dmesg has that syslog does not are from the kernel and not sent to syslog, probably because those messages occurred before syslog was started in the bootup process or after it was stopped in the shutdown process |
| 04:43.18 | raf256 | centrx: nope |
| 04:43.19 | djperegrine | how do I search all files ? |
| 04:43.29 | djperegrine | like inculding the contents of the file? |
| 04:43.34 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.jpg" |
| 04:43.36 | brick | grep dude |
| 04:44.00 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.08 | raf256 | or get krusader program |
| 04:44.10 | djperegrine | lol |
| 04:44.15 | djperegrine | I don't have KDE |
| 04:44.20 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec grep pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.31 | raf256 | djperegrine: you dont have to have KDE to run KDE applications, mon |
| 04:44.38 | djperegrine | I don't have the lib |
| 04:44.44 | Guerin | kde is not the answer |
| 04:44.47 | raf256 | apt-get install krusader |
| 04:44.54 | raf256 | Guerin: even Linus uses kde ;) |
| 04:44.56 | djperegrine | I don't want to install the lib |
| 04:45.26 | raf256 | djperegrine: cool so go with the find&grep, or try string | grep on /dev/hda ;) |
| 04:45.41 | raf256 | strings |
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| 04:47.29 | djperegrine | so |
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| 04:50.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: What font are you currently using? |
| 04:50.37 | djperegrine | find ./ -name ".*" | grep blabla |
| 04:50.40 | djperegrine | would that work? |
| 04:50.51 | djperegrine | er |
| 04:51.12 | raf256 | somethong simmilar |
| 04:51.15 | raf256 | probably |
| 04:51.26 | raf256 | I would just use normal X tool, but... |
| 04:51.48 | arcane | does anyone know if its possible too determine if a print-job in cups if its completed/error/notdone ? |
| 04:51.50 | Waggie | djperegrine: Are you running Gnome? |
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| 04:52.01 | djperegrine | no |
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| 04:52.25 | Waggie | arcane: Try 'lpq' for starters |
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| 04:52.47 | arcane | yup, at some point will print jobs stop showing up within that tho? |
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| 04:53.18 | arcane | you can specify too show all completed or not-completed.... but surely after several thousands jobs have been passed thru your not gonna see the entire list each time (of completed) |
| 04:53.37 | Waggie | Well, if it's a printer that would show anything there at all, then in that case it'll stop showing up there when the print job has completely disappeared from the system. |
| 04:54.24 | Waggie | ie: It's completed printing, or it's gone into the bit bucket. |
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| 04:54.43 | Waggie | Though, I'm not very experienced with printing stuff. |
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| 05:01.11 | zeballin3 | I did a 'mark' in synaptic for a dist (smart) upgrade and I see nautlis and a bunch of gnome stuff is slated for removal? |
| 05:02.11 | hornhead | does anyone know how to upload an entire directory with sftp? |
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| 05:03.23 | arcane | Waggie, im surprised there no functionality in the api to query for a job and figure out what status it i in, how many retries its had etc etc |
| 05:03.52 | [Cadet] | hornhead: scp -r files_to_upload user@host:/destination works nicely |
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| 05:06.25 | SerajewelKS | hornhead: or tar it, upload, and untar |
| 05:07.04 | odla | well i upgraded to testing but now my kernel wont' load my X won't start |
| 05:07.57 | SerajewelKS | odla: if your kernel doesn't load, then how could your X start? |
| 05:08.03 | SerajewelKS | odla: what exactly is going wrong? |
| 05:08.18 | Waggie | odla: Providing error messages is vital. |
| 05:08.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, well it loaded initially in 2.6.8 |
| 05:08.38 | SerajewelKS | odla: and please define "load" |
| 05:08.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i was able to get to command prompt where X failed |
| 05:09.09 | odla | SerajewelKS, this is likely because i was used X.Org 6.9 from bpo |
| 05:09.10 | SerajewelKS | odla: and whether or not it "loaded" in 2.6.8 is irrelevant. as i asked, what exactly is going wrong, not what used to work? |
| 05:09.35 | odla | SerajewelKS, well when i try to boot into 2.6.15 or 2.6.8 it forces me to run fschk |
| 05:09.41 | odla | SerajewelKS, or reboot |
| 05:09.46 | SerajewelKS | odla: so? run fsck. |
| 05:10.07 | odla | SerajewelKS, well i run fsck and then it brings me to a prompt where my user is (none) |
| 05:10.13 | odla | SerajewelKS, it tells me to reboot, so i reboot |
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| 05:10.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i get to the same panic where it asks me to run fsck again |
| 05:10.40 | SerajewelKS | odla: what does the panic say? |
| 05:10.50 | SerajewelKS | odla: and don't paraphrase. what *exactly* shows up on your monitor? |
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| 05:11.37 | odla | SerajewelKS, i don't remember....i have only one computer and i unfortunately can't be in linux and windows at the same time |
| 05:11.43 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am d/l knoppix now |
| 05:11.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am going to try to save all of my data |
| 05:11.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: do you have pencil and paper? |
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| 05:12.03 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i'll give you a better idea of the panic when i try to reboot |
| 05:12.11 | isorox | odla: what file system is your root partition (reiser, ext3). Did you complile support for in into the kernel, and if so did you do it as a module? |
| 05:12.11 | klync | odla: so, are you booting into an emergency repair console? |
| 05:12.12 | odla | SerajewelKS, i'll write it down |
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| 05:12.50 | klync | isorox: that's probably a good guess, odla ^^ |
| 05:12.58 | odla | so right after it asks about udev it tells me something about my filesystem being read-only or something |
| 05:13.11 | SerajewelKS | and, fyi, when the kernel panics, it stops dead. it doesn't panic and then give you a shell to run fsck. a panic is just that: the kernel yells something at you and halts. |
| 05:13.19 | odla | ok |
| 05:13.31 | SerajewelKS | so either it's not panicing or it's not giving you a shell |
| 05:13.33 | odla | again...i'll give you guys a better idea of my problem when i can reboot |
| 05:13.41 | klync | :) |
| 05:13.50 | odla | it halts then asks me to enter root password or press control + D to reboot |
| 05:13.56 | SerajewelKS | if you have a digital camera you can take shots and post them, too.. so you don't have to write it down |
| 05:14.04 | odla | that's a good idea |
| 05:14.13 | SerajewelKS | odla: that is maintenance mode |
| 05:14.31 | SerajewelKS | odla: if you got that far then it was able to mount / |
| 05:14.34 | centrx | odla, what is the error message |
| 05:14.39 | odla | SerajewelKS, ok |
| 05:14.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: but, i think you mentioned it said something about read-only.. so it probably mounted it RO |
| 05:15.10 | odla | centrx, i don't remember...it just tells me to enter root password or reboot |
| 05:15.15 | centrx | which would be the standard procedure |
| 05:15.34 | centrx | odla, without the error message there is really no way to tell you much of what is wrong or how it can be helped |
| 05:15.51 | odla | well i know :) |
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| 05:17.50 | odla | do you guys know if i'll be able to access my debian partition from a knoppix cd (note: i've already posted this question to #knoppix with no response) |
| 05:17.58 | odla | and yes i know this is #debian and not #knoppix |
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| 05:19.00 | dawg | of course |
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| 05:20.21 | bunga | hi all what tool to load webserver fast |
| 05:20.22 | caphuso | odla: depends on the exact nature of your debian partitions and what features the knoppix kernel supports. so the answer is a clear and exact "maybe" |
| 05:20.28 | bunga | i'm use apache2 with php4 |
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| 05:20.31 | bunga | and mysql 5 |
| 05:21.21 | litage | how can you limit the upload and download speed for a NIC? |
| 05:21.24 | tyler | how do i see contents of my usb hdd? |
| 05:21.47 | mark_ | I was wondering is there is some page which is dedicated to solving "evasive problems", e.g. when it is not clear what's happening and what's wrong -- but something is wrong. E.g. in my case the system boots 45 minutes (instead of 1) |
| 05:21.49 | roue | it's usually made available at /dev/sda |
| 05:22.03 | bunga | !tweak apache |
| 05:22.08 | bunga | !infov tweak apache |
| 05:22.11 | bunga | !info tweak apache |
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| 05:23.04 | roue | mark_ start in single user mode and manually launch stuff in /etc/init.d till you find the culprit |
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| 05:25.26 | psilikon | how do i get back into the installation program from the console in debian? |
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| 05:25.51 | mark_ | roue: That would not help in my case (I already found an answer: the problem was in the fact that caching of the last 10 megs of memory was disabled, which by accident are hevaily used by linux)... But the amount of time I spent searching could be significantly decreased if there would be such a page.. so was wondering if such a page exists or is worth creating? :) |
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| 05:27.12 | roue | mark_ post a summary with as much detail as you can gather to one of the linux usenet groups.] |
| 05:27.17 | Paul`` | well, I'll tell you what... damn annoying that a server was brought down by quota |
| 05:27.34 | roue | then it'll be googlable in full till the sun burns out. |
| 05:27.53 | roue | that's always the first place I look |
| 05:28.11 | bunga | heloooooooooooooooooooo worlddddd |
| 05:28.37 | klync | if i've made a .deb that might be useful to others, where's a good place to submit it? |
| 05:28.49 | mark_ | roue: well... yeah... but there are already such descriptions in usenet newsgroup (that's where i found the answer_, but i had to try 1000 different queries and spend half a day on finding it :) |
| 05:29.20 | peterS | klync: check www.apt-get.org, they might be able to arrange somewhere |
| 05:29.34 | peterS | klync: also www.dotdeb.org |
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| 05:33.23 | klync | peterS: hmm... well, since it's a one-off, i doubt a real apt repository would host it, so maybe just on my website instead, tho no one will find it there |
| 05:33.45 | peterS | klync: that's always the problem - publicity for the stuff you want people to have access to |
| 05:33.50 | klync | peterS: it's a patched kernel, fyi |
| 05:34.02 | peterS | klync: out of curiosity, what sort of patchign? |
| 05:34.04 | klync | ... which i'm about to try out, now that it's installed |
| 05:34.26 | klync | peterS: realtime-lsm patch for audio |
| 05:34.42 | Kofif | what sound server is used nowdays with kernels 2.6 ? |
| 05:34.44 | klync | peterS: and raid1 built in :) |
| 05:34.50 | klync | Kofif: alsa |
| 05:34.58 | Kofif | no more artsd ? |
| 05:35.09 | klync | err, well, for a sound server... |
| 05:35.10 | peterS | Kofif: you can use any of them. it seems jackd is on its way up |
| 05:35.23 | peterS | Kofif: with alsa you don't really *need* any sound server though |
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| 05:36.37 | Kofif | when i try to play soun i get permission denie in the debug window |
| 05:36.48 | Kofif | what can i do to make it have premission |
| 05:36.49 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:37.00 | peterS | Kofif: 'adduser yourusername audio' |
| 05:37.04 | gpm | um. hey guys. i just installed and ran ntpdate, but my clock remains the same, and incorrect. any clues or solutions? |
| 05:37.19 | peterS | gpm: ntpdate refuses to do anything if ntpd is running |
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| 05:37.47 | gpm | peterS: there's no ntpd showing up in ps ax |
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| 05:38.03 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:38.07 | Kofif | still dosnt play |
| 05:38.11 | peterS | gpm: so what did ntpdate do? did it print any errors or anything? |
| 05:38.26 | gpm | peterS: i ran the init.d script. no errors.... |
| 05:38.28 | Kofif | if i try to use oss it tells me failed to open audio device /dev/dsp |
| 05:38.36 | Kofif | premission denie |
| 05:38.38 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:38.53 | peterS | Kofif: after the adduser you have to log out / log in for it to take effect |
| 05:38.59 | Kofif | ok lets try |
| 05:39.05 | gpm | peterS: if i run ntpdate -b time.nist.gov, i get: 12 Jan 05:38:36 ntpdate[7505]: step time server 192.43.244.18 offset 0.095694 sec |
| 05:39.27 | peterS | gpm: so it thinks your clock is within 0.1 seconds of being correct. you disagree? |
| 05:39.51 | gpm | peterS: nm, i needed to do tzconfig...the timezone was utc for some reason |
| 05:40.03 | peterS | gpm: *nod*, that was going to be my next question (: |
| 05:40.39 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/502016 look at this |
| 05:41.04 | Kofif | after restarting x and doing adduser $USER audio ( when $USER is my username ) |
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| 05:41.36 | peterS | Kofif: type 'groups' and see if the 'audio' group is in there |
| 05:42.11 | Kofif | no cant see that |
| 05:42.31 | Kofif | ~$ cat /etc/passwd | grep audio |
| 05:42.33 | Kofif | none. |
| 05:42.40 | dawg | .. |
| 05:42.55 | xam | Kofif: did you restart X and _then_ the adduser? |
| 05:43.01 | Kofif | no |
| 05:43.08 | Kofif | adduser then restart X |
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| 05:44.08 | Kofif | should i chmod 755 /dev/dsp ? |
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| 05:45.16 | Kofif | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.25 | Kofif | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.27 | peterS | Kofif: you seem a bit confused. I told you to type 'groups' and you typed 'cat /etc/passwd | grep'. |
| 05:45.40 | Kofif | ~# groups |
| 05:45.42 | Kofif | root |
| 05:45.50 | peterS | Kofif: I didn't mean as root, I meant as your normal user. sorry. |
| 05:45.53 | Kofif | ~$ groups |
| 05:45.54 | Kofif | awk |
| 05:46.14 | peterS | Kofif: ok so you didn't do the 'adduser' before logging in this latest time. because if you had, it would say 'awk audio' |
| 05:46.21 | peterS | Kofif: so do it: adduser awk audio |
| 05:46.27 | Kilhd | After using command "apt-get install tcl8.4" eggdrop complains that tcl isn't installed and I need to pass configure --with-tclpath How can I find where it is installed? |
| 05:46.46 | peterS | Kilhd: it'll be /usr/bin/tcl8.4 most likely |
| 05:46.49 | Kofif | The user `awk' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 05:46.55 | Kilhd | k |
| 05:46.59 | Waggie | Gods, people still use eggdrop bots? |
| 05:47.10 | peterS | Kofif: ok so log out and back in again |
| 05:47.12 | Kofif | you wont imagine how many :] |
| 05:47.16 | Waggie | I remember setting up an eggdrop about 8 years ago.. |
| 05:47.24 | Kilhd | What's wrong with eggdrop? |
| 05:47.26 | Waggie | Or was it longer.. |
| 05:47.34 | peterS | Kilhd: actually do this, 'dpkg -l tcl8.4 | grep bin/' |
| 05:47.35 | Waggie | Nothing, I'm just feeling old.. Don't mind me. |
| 05:47.42 | Waggie | :) |
| 05:47.43 | zinx | Kilhd: has always had some pretty horrible vulnerabilities |
| 05:47.43 | Kilhd | heh, k. |
| 05:47.52 | zinx | Kilhd: it was programmed with security completely out of mind |
| 05:48.03 | Waggie | Very true.. |
| 05:48.10 | Kilhd | Is there an alternative? I am open to suggestion. |
| 05:48.15 | Waggie | infobots seem to be all the rage these days. |
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| 05:48.20 | Kofif | Works |
| 05:48.25 | Kofif | thank you very much ! |
| 05:48.32 | peterS | Waggie: infobots don't have the same functionality eggdrops do, though |
| 05:48.34 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:48.43 | Waggie | Those, nowhere near as many features as eggdrop, though. |
| 05:48.49 | Waggie | Yeah, I know.. |
| 05:48.51 | Kofif | got new kernel got x got irc got music ... ummm |
| 05:49.00 | peterS | Waggie: that's like saying "your portable mp3 player is an old brand, you should get a car stereo" |
| 05:49.02 | Kofif | what do you say mates xine or VLC ? |
| 05:49.08 | Waggie | Kofif: All you need now is porno. :) |
| 05:49.12 | Waggie | VLC.. |
| 05:49.16 | Kofif | thought so |
| 05:49.35 | Kofif | omg 24mb |
| 05:49.47 | Kofif | it comes with free porno or something ? |
| 05:49.49 | Waggie | VLC has lots of features. :) |
| 05:49.51 | Kofif | :] |
| 05:49.57 | Waggie | But no porno. |
| 05:50.05 | Kofif | heehee |
| 05:50.20 | Kofif | the only thing that i must get on working is hebrew fonts for my console .. |
| 05:50.29 | dawg | mplayer. |
| 05:50.30 | Kofif | only managed to set it to work with X :\ |
| 05:50.51 | Kofif | and with vim :] |
| 05:51.10 | Waggie | I've never set the console for anything but english character sets.. |
| 05:51.19 | Kofif | i did, |
| 05:51.24 | Kofif | its an art |
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| 05:51.43 | Kofif | hebrew is a right to left language, just imagin the bugs :P |
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| 05:51.47 | Kilhd | bah.. ok now eggdrop tells me my tcl is much too old and to install tcl8.4 = / |
| 05:52.01 | Kofif | Kilhd so compile tcl from source |
| 05:52.19 | Kofif | or use older eggdrop :] |
| 05:52.23 | Waggie | Kofif: What's frightening is that from what I hear, Linux and Mac have the best right-to-left support. |
| 05:52.36 | Kilhd | Heh.. Guess I will try that now. |
| 05:52.39 | Kofif | bullshit |
| 05:52.49 | Kofif | linux is not good at all with right to left |
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| 05:53.06 | Kofif | win32 got it sorted much better. |
| 05:53.24 | Waggie | I'm curious, why did you configure with an english character set during install? |
| 05:54.02 | Kofif | because the keyboard makes some issues with kernel 2.6 upgrade |
| 05:54.09 | Kofif | ( as i learned tonight ) |
| 05:54.10 | Kofif | lol |
| 05:54.15 | Waggie | Ah |
| 05:54.17 | Waggie | Interesting.. |
| 05:54.32 | Kofif | 3 hours i didnt know why im keeping ending in a dead end. |
| 05:54.38 | Kofif | and im NOT new to linux |
| 05:54.54 | Kofif | i just forgot A-LOT |
| 05:54.56 | Kofif | :\ |
| 05:55.02 | Waggie | <nods> |
| 05:55.28 | Kofif | i used to have a nice bash interface that i wrote that installs and configures everything for me |
| 05:55.34 | Kofif | lost it on hdd fail :\ |
| 05:55.40 | Waggie | That's a bummer. :( |
| 05:55.55 | Kofif | and when you do bash interfaces , you do it once and forget :] |
| 05:56.47 | Kofif | here is a free one http://www.yonatan.securehost.co.il/backup/bash/cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:56.54 | Kofif | :] just sh cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:57.16 | Kofif | still has a nasty bug with the maths but im too lazy to make a workaround. |
| 05:57.33 | caphuso | badly written |
| 05:57.49 | Kofif | written under a heavy influence of Marijuana |
| 05:57.50 | Kofif | ;] |
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| 05:58.18 | buu | Ok, so what file system do I put on large raid?\ |
| 05:58.27 | Kofif | me and my friend just screened on the same shell and startd writing |
| 05:58.50 | Kofif | dose it work for you ? |
| 05:58.53 | Kofif | my script |
| 05:58.54 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:59.14 | Kofif | it should work on just about any distro |
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| 06:02.31 | caphuso | this is great... echo `sed -e "s,\\\[a-z],,g" /etc/issue` |
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| 06:03.04 | Kofif | tnx |
| 06:03.30 | caphuso | you should append a "| cat" to it though |
| 06:03.51 | caphuso | and maybe even a '| while read a; do echo "$a"; done' |
| 06:03.53 | Kofif | got better ideas just make em and mail :] |
| 06:04.07 | Kofif | i wanted to keep it simple |
| 06:04.17 | Kofif | only if you can fix the ram calculation bug |
| 06:04.22 | Kofif | that's the major bug |
| 06:04.45 | Kofif | Memory Usage: [303/503] MB |
| 06:04.46 | Kofif | :\ |
| 06:04.50 | Kofif | 512!!!! |
| 06:05.24 | Kofif | i thought ill do like a table with parameters like if the value is from 500 to 512 then echo 512 |
| 06:05.28 | Kofif | but that's ugly. |
| 06:05.35 | Kofif | i want it to come from the hardware |
| 06:05.49 | dos000 | is there a one liner to check if i can correctly send email via exim4 ? also what do you use as smtp for outgoing mail ? |
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| 06:06.15 | deadcat | dos000: echo blah | mail user@somewhere |
| 06:06.36 | Kofif | :] reminds me of mailbomb scripts |
| 06:06.38 | deadcat | postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo outgoing anyone? i cant get it working |
| 06:06.40 | Kofif | lol |
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| 06:07.01 | Zugschlus | !dpkg tell dos000 about swaks |
| 06:07.09 | dos000 | deadcat, i tried echo "my test" | mail -s "test message" me@<mycom.com> i still dont get it :-( |
| 06:07.26 | deadcat | dos000: we have same problem then. what ISP you using? |
| 06:07.36 | Kofif | is the service running ? |
| 06:07.40 | deadcat | dos000: check mailq |
| 06:08.04 | caphuso | and check /var/log/exim4/* |
| 06:08.18 | Kofif | umm i love exim |
| 06:08.18 | dos000 | deadcat, i see frozen mail ! |
| 06:08.45 | Kofif | well that's good :] its working. |
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| 06:08.45 | Kofif | at least tryed to. |
| 06:08.49 | deadcat | dos000: time to fix exim. we have similar problem |
| 06:09.11 | caphuso | frozen mail isn't a problem, it's a symptom |
| 06:10.11 | dos000 | caphuso, i think my smpt for outgoing is screwd. are you supposed to run an smtp deamon on the same machine for sending mail ? |
| 06:10.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.25 | Kofif | meaning |
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| 06:10.46 | Kofif | check your hosts |
| 06:10.52 | caphuso | dos000: read the log files. that'll tell you what went wrong |
| 06:11.13 | Kofif | exim.conf <<-- + man + time |
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| 06:14.17 | holycow | hey guys, if i want to start a service when a server boots i just haveto symlink to it in rcS.d correct? |
| 06:14.23 | dos000 | caphuso, i set the smtp server as localhost so it says " remote host address is the local host: " ... |
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| 06:14.40 | Paul`` | I had a debian woody system that would not boot and would hang when checking quotas... I subsequently disabled quotas in /etc/fstab and was able to get the system to boot without issue.... any clues as to what might have prevented the system from booting and how I could go about ensuring that the system/root processes aren't inhibited by quota limitations? |
| 06:15.00 | Kofif | errrrrr i just loged on to one of my servers , what do i see , one of the users idles for 8hrs in the SSH |
| 06:15.00 | dos000 | caphuso, my assumption was that the smtp server is running on the same machine mail is originating from |
| 06:15.04 | holycow | how come the last 2 symlinks i put in rcS.d are now in rc3.d? if i want to delete those i remove them from rc3.d and recreate new links in rcS.d (the startup scripts are new anyway) ? |
| 06:15.05 | atrus | does anybody know how to extract the audio commentary my camera (hp photosmart 435) attached to an image? |
| 06:15.32 | caphuso | dos000: "the smtp server"? |
| 06:15.33 | Kofif | is there anything i hate more then idle users on my machines ?! :| omg i wanna shoot somebody! |
| 06:17.07 | vulture | Kofif: just kill them.. *shrugs* |
| 06:17.17 | Kofif | haha , not kill |
| 06:17.19 | Kofif | slay even :] |
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| 06:17.28 | caphuso | holycow: read /etc/init.d/README and all the docs it points to to learn which runlevel is used when and for what |
| 06:17.42 | holycow | caphuso, oh right ! good enough, thanks! |
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| 06:17.44 | benjamindees | what's the best way to configure wine in sarge? |
| 06:19.00 | dos000 | caphuso, in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config i selected "mail sent by smart host" so it asks for the outgoing smtp server address.. but all i need is for this box to send mail ! |
| 06:19.26 | Kofif | Max Out: 15.5 Mb/s (15.5%) Average Out: 3943.2 kb/s (3.9%) Current Out: 1232.8 kb/s (1.2%) |
| 06:19.36 | Kofif | oo 15.5Mb/s yesterday |
| 06:19.42 | caphuso | dos000: use your ISP mail server as smarthost |
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| 06:20.04 | dos000 | caphuso, my server is in a data center :-( |
| 06:20.31 | caphuso | dos000: then don't use the smarthost setup |
| 06:20.47 | EleckttrusS | ChanServ, |
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| 06:22.40 | dos000 | caphuso, thanks .. i used internet site and seems working |
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| 06:23.25 | Kofif | anyone got to use itanium based machines in realtime yet ? :] |
| 06:23.36 | Kofif | im wondering if its afficent. |
| 06:23.49 | xam | Kofif: running one here |
| 06:23.59 | Kofif | as a server i mean |
| 06:24.29 | Kofif | mail / web / sql / ircd / ftp |
| 06:24.45 | Kofif | and i mean a hard working one. |
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| 06:24.47 | jm_ | we have several Itanium servers here |
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| 06:25.00 | Kofif | how are they load wise |
| 06:25.10 | Kofif | game servers even. |
| 06:25.47 | xam | Kofif: game servers? I doubt you'll find any game server software for ia64 ... |
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| 06:25.59 | jm_ | they're not being used for such things - they're test machines for our product |
| 06:26.06 | Kofif | ah |
| 06:26.08 | Kofif | test machines |
| 06:26.16 | Kofif | im talking about a working internet server |
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| 06:26.29 | Kofif | all the way used |
| 06:26.33 | Kofif | proxy even! lol |
| 06:26.46 | jm_ | ROFFLE |
| 06:27.03 | xam | jm_ I feel with you ;) |
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| 06:31.39 | sandman | Does assembly require compiling? |
| 06:32.04 | Kofif | duh |
| 06:32.25 | xam | sandman: yes, kind of. Although it is very simple. |
| 06:32.27 | sandman | And when you write a program in C, it is a source file, which is turned into an object file, which is finally turned into a binary. Does assembly go straight from source to binary? I'm confused on the subject |
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| 06:33.00 | sandman | Or when you write a program in assembly, are you actually kind of starting out with an object file? |
| 06:33.03 | Kofif | ircin from ns servers is not cool. |
| 06:33.46 | Kofif | ok gtg |
| 06:33.47 | Kofif | :> |
| 06:34.00 | Kofif | c ya all ill pop by later or sometime |
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| 06:34.38 | deadcat | anyone plays counter-strike on linux? |
| 06:34.50 | xam | sandman: assembly is basically an object file, but with the CPU commands in text form |
| 06:35.15 | buu | So, how do I automagically set my clock? |
| 06:35.18 | sses | hi |
| 06:35.49 | buu | Oh, ntpdate |
| 06:35.50 | buu | Hurrah! |
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| 06:36.35 | sandman | xam: Right. And assembly is compiled using an assembler. |
| 06:36.52 | sandman | xam: Object files are unoptimized code, yes? |
| 06:36.59 | sandman | xam: Are object files binary? Are they actually executable? |
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| 06:37.51 | acad | i think mysql isn't starting when the server reboots, should i be doing something to tell it to start with init.d? |
| 06:37.57 | dos000 | anyone knows how to clear mailq ... google is not helping |
| 06:38.10 | eflynn | hi all, i'm designing a site for the cs dept of my university. i would like a news column that could be updated by a web interface. i'd write one myself in PHP but i'm worried about security and this has probably been done before anyway. something small and simple. any suggestions? |
| 06:38.13 | dos000 | exim mailq that is |
| 06:38.16 | afabian | The linker works on object files to link in library code, or put in the appropriate calls to access libraries. So, object files aren't executable. |
| 06:38.43 | dos000 | eflynn, try drupal .. or mambo they should have that |
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| 06:38.59 | eflynn | dos000: okay is it small? |
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| 06:39.25 | xam | sandman: yes. It is basically like every other programming language, only that this one only has very simple commands (basically the CPU instructions) as the syntax. Object files are binary, but usually not executable until they are linked |
| 06:39.26 | dos000 | eflynn, its a full blown cms ... |
| 06:40.06 | dos000 | eflynn, simple for who ? |
| 06:40.46 | eflynn | dos000: simple like not a bazillion options and less than 100k in scripts |
| 06:41.48 | dos000 | eflynn, check it out. i dont see why you want to reinvent here. at one one you will want/need the features. they are both very solid platforms |
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| 06:41.55 | buu | So, anyone want to recommend a file system for a largish raid'd volume that's mostly going to store largish files/ |
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| 06:43.06 | eflynn | kk i'll look into it. thanks |
| 06:43.11 | xam | sandman: an object file is code generated by a compiler or assembler, and doesn't have anything to do whether it is optimised or not. They and be further processed to become (part of) a library or an executable using a linker and other tools |
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| 06:44.07 | xam | buu: xfs is good for large files |
| 06:44.15 | buu | xam: By large files I mean over a meg |
| 06:44.27 | xam | buu: me too |
| 06:44.35 | buu | Oh good. |
| 06:44.43 | buu | Is it nicely stable and all that goodness? |
| 06:44.50 | xam | buu: yes |
| 06:44.53 | buu | Hurrah! |
| 06:45.00 | buu | I shall look in to it most deeply. |
| 06:45.06 | buu | OR at least, glancingly. |
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| 06:46.00 | dos000 | buu, i just read about cluster file system of some sort made by a film company ... what was it ... cant get my hand on it :-( |
| 06:46.17 | buu | dos000: Sounds.. overwrought |
| 06:47.07 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.20 | dos000 | nevyn, both |
| 06:47.26 | Gnea | dos000: what film company? |
| 06:47.31 | nevyn | not CXFS then? |
| 06:47.41 | dos000 | nevyn, i should say supported by |
| 06:47.48 | nevyn | Lustre? |
| 06:47.51 | dos000 | there |
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| 06:48.39 | sandman | Can MSVB programs be compiled to run on other architectures like SPARC? |
| 06:48.46 | dos000 | www.lustre.org cant remember where i read it |
| 06:48.58 | sandman | Because in my class I'm being taught that Visual Basic is supposed to be machine-independent, and I think it's rather much a rigged question. |
| 06:49.14 | dos000 | nevyn, are you familiar with lustre ? |
| 06:49.25 | nevyn | I've heard of it... |
| 06:49.40 | nevyn | and I know some people who use it but I havn't implemented it myself |
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| 06:49.59 | shad0w1e | How do I view memory allocation (used/free/swap) from the console? |
| 06:50.45 | nevyn | free |
| 06:50.53 | shad0w1e | thanks! |
| 06:50.55 | afabian | One could reasonably view any language as machine independent as long as it can be implemented on a Turing-complete machine. But Visual Basic. Gag. |
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| 06:51.16 | nevyn | sandman: machine independant may even be true.. |
| 06:51.27 | karlpinc | hello, anybody using LVM2 on their root partition? |
| 06:51.40 | nevyn | given an alpha version of VLBblah.dll and windows for alpha it might work |
| 06:51.40 | Gnea | karlpinc: that's possible? |
| 06:51.43 | sandman | nevyn: yeah but you must be using windows. |
| 06:51.58 | nevyn | sandman: it makes no claim about os independance |
| 06:52.00 | sandman | nevyn: Visual Basic binaries are legally incompatible with other OS's, yes? |
| 06:52.03 | karlpinc | gnea: well, the faq says it is. I have a separate /boot. |
| 06:52.06 | Gnea | hrm, i suppose initrd off of /boot ... |
| 06:52.06 | dos000 | nevyn, this is where i got it from http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/12/21/2125202.shtml?tid=69&tid=32 |
| 06:52.11 | afabian | It's possible, with the black magic of a separate boot and an initrd. |
| 06:52.22 | karlpinc | gena: yes |
| 06:52.23 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:52.47 | afabian | I wanted my root under LVM control for that way cool snapshotting feature. |
| 06:52.49 | Gnea | i tried doing lvm2 in suse 10.1 before, it didn't quite work out |
| 06:52.54 | NoboruKun | can debian handle heavy traffic as much as freebsd ? |
| 06:53.01 | karlpinc | gena: However, I do get a message about "Can't deactivate volume group" on shutdown. |
| 06:53.02 | xam | sandman: errm, define machine-independent. Most people would associate with that term that the generated code can be executed on any machine, much like java. This is not the case with VisualBasic. You could say it is machine.independent when it comes to the language syntax / source code, but AFAIK it is only/mostly used on Windows ... |
| 06:53.12 | Gnea | karlpinc: who's gena? |
| 06:53.23 | karlpinc | Yes, I want to try snapshots too. for backup. |
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| 06:53.46 | karlpinc | Gnea: sorry. fingers got away from me. |
| 06:54.08 | afabian | NoboruKun, the Linux 2.6 kernel series seemed to do better than FreeBSD 5.x by a few benchmarks I saw kicking around. But FreeBSD and Linux have both been under development for a while, and NetBSD cleaned up their network implementation not long ago. So... try them in your situation and see which does better. |
| 06:54.20 | Gnea | snapshots would be cool, i wonder if anyone's made a knoppix-based lvm2 installer |
| 06:54.37 | karlpinc | Anyhow, is anything written to disk when a volume group is deactivated? If not I guess it does not matter I'm getting the message. |
| 06:54.51 | NoboruKun | afabian, many thanks ..:) |
| 06:55.15 | newbie2debian | does sarge come with a firewall? |
| 06:55.18 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, i dislike the firewall in debian,its way too complicated to configure |
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| 06:55.54 | NoboruKun | afabian, i mean,has debian ever thought to introduct the firewall thing from freebsd ? i heard it was from openbsd to fbsd though |
| 06:56.02 | NoboruKun | introduce* |
| 06:56.08 | Gnea | karlpinc: i'm not sure, i never got it to work right in the first place |
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| 06:56.15 | karlpinc | (I really like OpenBSDs pf firewalling.) |
| 06:56.29 | newbie2debian | what firewall comes with debian sarge please? |
| 06:56.33 | afabian | NoboruKun, you're probably better off using whatever you're more comfortable with, really. I doubt the performance difference would be dramatic. |
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| 06:56.49 | karlpinc | Gnea: I just used the Sarge installer and found the trick was to use the 2.6 kernel. Then it worked fine. |
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| 06:57.23 | NoboruKun | afabian, hmm |
| 06:57.50 | afabian | NoboruKun, I doubt pf is an easy port to Linux. and I gather that iptables is more powerful, just ... a little inscrutable at times. I don't really know, I only set up pf once and the mere sight of iptables frightens me. |
| 06:58.29 | NoboruKun | i m scared of iptables :( |
| 06:58.40 | NoboruKun | Too many rules |
| 06:58.59 | Gnea | karlpinc: sarge installer with 2.6 will set LVM2 up? |
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| 06:59.10 | karlpinc | Gnea: Yes. |
| 06:59.14 | Gnea | ! |
| 06:59.34 | Gnea | of all the times i've used that, i never tried LVM2... never noticed it either |
| 06:59.35 | sandman | Are there any northbridges include IDE channels? |
| 06:59.39 | NoboruKun | afabian, so usually the different performance is depending on the kernel basically ? |
| 06:59.40 | xam | Noboru: iptables alone is not complicated, you'll get used to it. But in combination with arp/ebtables the nightmare begins ... |
| 06:59.41 | sandman | That is, northbridges that control HDDs? |
| 06:59.49 | sandman | Or are those generally still reserved for southbridges? |
| 07:00.14 | aerosmith | karlpinc: apt-get install firestarter,or apt-get install kmyfirewall in my opinion,or ipkungfu script is very good,there's also guarddog,i think,i prefer firestarter |
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| 07:00.34 | afabian | NoboruKun, yep. Linux 2.4 would perform differently than 2.6. Different operations take different amounts of time, so what is actually faster in practice is actually pretty hard to determine without just trying it out. |
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| 07:00.44 | karlpinc | Gnea: You manually partition. First you physically partition (in giant gobs except for the /boot), then you make physical volumes and the logical volumes from there. |
| 07:00.58 | Gnea | karlpinc: yeah |
| 07:01.04 | NoboruKun | afabian, i have tried both |
| 07:01.05 | NoboruKun | but |
| 07:01.30 | NoboruKun | i haven't tried them much,because i didn't have the chance to test them all in an extremely heavy traffic and such |
| 07:01.41 | NoboruKun | so i have been seeking for info about them online |
| 07:01.42 | Gnea | i still have to fix this nvidia problem on my laptop |
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| 07:01.51 | karlpinc | Gnea: No point in further partioning the logical volumes AFIK, I just put fs on them. |
| 07:01.54 | kino | is there any way to install rxvt with -pixmap support? |
| 07:02.08 | roue | bunga any luck? I got bumped off. |
| 07:02.10 | Gnea | it fixed on some other systems, but this laptop seems to have a problem of its own |
| 07:02.30 | karlpinc | aerosmith: I've heard good things about firestarter. |
| 07:02.49 | afabian | kino, I'm not sure exactly what that is, but the packaging system is pretty darn flexible. I downloaded the xemacs source, recompiled with a different widget set, and reinstalled. |
| 07:03.00 | karlpinc | Gnea: (Unless you know of some reason to not to put fs's directly on the lvs.) |
| 07:03.04 | kino | so I have to compile it? |
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| 07:03.25 | aerosmith | karlpinc: very easy,very good documentation,home page is www.fs-security.com i believe |
| 07:03.29 | afabian | kino, I don't really know what pixmap support is. But if compiling is required, you don't have to resort to /usr/local |
| 07:03.43 | kino | afabian: it lets you use a background image |
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| 07:04.06 | karlpinc | aerosmith: My trouble is I always like to frob the knobs, and wind up decending into config files. |
| 07:04.12 | Gnea | kino: apt-get source rxvt |
| 07:04.13 | NoboruKun | I plan to install debian |
| 07:04.43 | NoboruKun | for real,i am very much like the apt thing in debian this was the original reason which was letting me into debian for real |
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| 07:05.09 | NoboruKun | but i cannot find a book to learn debian |
| 07:05.09 | xam | NorboruKun: linux is very powerful - but can be very complex - when it comes to processing network packets, just look at this picture:http://ebtables.sourceforge.net/br_fw_ia/PacketFlow.png ... but the networking stack is still one of the fastest and scaleable out there |
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| 07:05.12 | Gnea | NoboruKun: so go install it |
| 07:05.23 | Haukkari | Hello everyone! How can I limit access to a computer for only one specific group? |
| 07:05.24 | kino | I switched to sid hehehe |
| 07:05.27 | NoboruKun | all of them are for other Linux distro <RH the most> plus BSDs |
| 07:05.28 | Gnea | NoboruKun: best way is to just install it and go from there... |
| 07:05.33 | Gnea | !newbie-guide |
| 07:05.33 | dpkg | well, newbie-guide is you've decided to do away with windows or are pondering it and want to use Linux.. good for you! But this isn't windows, you can't just install it and be up and running unless it's a livecd, that isn't even finished yet.. you need to RTFM (Read The Fine Manual) which are located at http://www.justlinux.com and http://www.tldp.org, also see http://www.debian.org and http://www.google.com chances are they know the answer! |
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| 07:06.09 | sses | does anyone know the command to reconfigure my sources.list simmilar to "base-config"? |
| 07:06.23 | xam | sses: apt-setup |
| 07:06.27 | Gnea | apt-setup |
| 07:06.31 | NoboruKun | xam, great picture :) |
| 07:06.31 | sses | thanks!!! |
| 07:06.34 | karlpinc | Soo..., anybody know if deactivating a volume group writes to disk? |
| 07:06.43 | afabian | NoboruKun, there's a Debian reference. Debian is very much a community project, unlike some commercial distributions, and you find a lot of HOWTOs and community support and such. If that's your bag, Debian is a good place to be. |
| 07:06.49 | sses | been looking for it for an while |
| 07:06.58 | sses | off of # |
| 07:07.02 | sses | II assume |
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| 07:07.22 | karlpinc | NoboruKun: aptitude is good, because it keeps track of what you asked to be installed v.s. what got installed automatically to support what you've asked for. |
| 07:08.01 | afabian | NoboruKun, stuff that's Debian specific is well-documented. Debian actually has a very specific policy. The rest is really kind of Linux-in-general knowledge. |
| 07:08.03 | NoboruKun | cool |
| 07:08.04 | Haukkari | Anyone? How can I allow only one group to login to a computer? |
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| 07:08.17 | xam | damn, that movie I just watched was bad ... |
| 07:08.33 | NoboruKun | afabian, yeah |
| 07:08.34 | karlpinc | Haukkari: The answer lurkes somwhere in Pam. |
| 07:08.48 | Gnea | Haukkari: change shells |
| 07:08.59 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah, that much I figured out already... |
| 07:09.08 | xam | I won't recommend 'mission impossible 2' to anybodf |
| 07:09.14 | Haukkari | karlpinc: I guess it's a lot of reading man-pages for me. |
| 07:09.25 | NoboruKun | Thank you all for the info. |
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| 07:10.09 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's a general include that all the pam modules use. You can modify that. I just haven't read the different module docs in a while. |
| 07:10.30 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (in /etc/pam.d/ is where the include is.) |
| 07:10.47 | Haukkari | /etc/login.access had something funky. |
| 07:11.02 | afabian | NoboruKun, one thing about free software is that in addition to picking technology, you're picking a community. On average, the Debian community has a clue, which is a really great asset. Try comparing the Debian mailing list to the Ubuntu mailing list, for instance. ;) |
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| 07:11.32 | NoboruKun | i dont like Ubuntu |
| 07:11.36 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You may be taking the wrong approach. Why are you creating unix accounts for users that don't login? |
| 07:11.37 | jm_ | login.access is not used by PAM modules |
| 07:11.43 | NoboruKun | i like the original flavor of debian release |
| 07:11.52 | Whistleboy | anyone know why KDE screensavers don't work? xscreensaver runs. |
| 07:12.12 | dos000 | what do you normally do to get me.yourdomainname.com point at your static ip from the isp ? the domain registrar i use does not have a nice web interface |
| 07:12.21 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Another alternative is to put !! at the front of /etc/shadow for those accounts not allowed to login.) |
| 07:12.22 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, if you are gonna do web-hosting service,would you install debian on your server ? |
| 07:12.25 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, we have a big network at school, which uses NIS and LDAP... |
| 07:12.36 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and it's kinda nice for all the students have accounts and mail addresses... =) |
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| 07:12.44 | Haukkari | karlpinc: but they shouldn't be able to log on some specific machines |
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| 07:12.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Sorry, the !! goes in the hashed password field) |
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| 07:13.36 | gpm | how do i search for a package by looking for packages that have a certain filename? |
| 07:13.42 | kino | why does debian have all services enabled by default.. freakin stupid |
| 07:13.43 | gpm | (without pdo) |
| 07:13.52 | liable | gpm: apt-file |
| 07:13.52 | dos000 | gpm, apt-file |
| 07:14.06 | gpm | apt-file search <filename>? |
| 07:14.08 | karlpinc | Haukkari: what I did is add a ldap attribute and then modify the ldap search string in whatever config file drives the (allow ldap to login). |
| 07:14.53 | karlpinc | Haukkari: NIS on the other hand is a big pain. |
| 07:14.58 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, the people who I want to have access are in a specific group... |
| 07:15.07 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and I think this should be relatively easy with PAM |
| 07:15.13 | dos000 | you can use apt-cache as well and do "apt-cache search -n" |
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| 07:15.49 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's some filter that drives nsswitch.... maybe. It's one of those ldap.conf files. Sorry I can't be more help. |
| 07:16.11 | afabian | NoboruKun, depends on what you mean. If I were purchasing a dedicated server, I'd probably use whatever they recommend, because it's what they have the most experience dealing with when necessary. If it were just me and a machine, with no other considerations, sure. Debian's stable distribution is well tested, has a nice, long lifespan, etc. |
| 07:16.35 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You can put the filter in pam for sure. But there's a generic place for one too. |
| 07:17.00 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, anything that works would be nice |
| 07:17.28 | NoboruKun | afabian, i see. |
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| 07:18.16 | karlpinc | So, where can I go to get more help on LVM2? I already wrote to linux-lvm@redhat.com and debian-user@lists.debian.org, and nobody here seems to be able to help. |
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| 07:19.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Lordy, I happen to know that you can also fake it by authenticating with radius and having a ldap filter in the radius server. (!) |
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| 07:19.59 | tuora | I cannot retieve for viewing 'mime encapsulated Web archive' files which i have saved from online. what can i do? |
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| 07:20.10 | Haukkari | karlpinc: /etc/security/access.conf |
| 07:20.13 | Haukkari | karlpinc: that's it |
| 07:20.22 | jm_ | which is documented in PAM docs |
| 07:20.32 | jm_ | then there's PAM require module written by some people |
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| 07:21.57 | karlpinc | tuora: Don't know what your problem is but I've used mimedecode before to get to mime encoded stuff. |
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| 07:22.17 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Yay! That sure sounds like the right way to do it. |
| 07:22.20 | sses | night all |
| 07:22.39 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah. Thanks for your help. =) |
| 07:22.51 | kino | how do you specify options for a source build? |
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| 07:23.01 | SexyKen | Hey guys - I'm tired of entering passwords everytime I want to connect to an SSH server -- what's the best method of authentication otherwise? |
| 07:23.09 | karlpinc | (Haukkari: Good thing you didn't listen to me!)a |
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| 07:23.43 | Haukkari | karlpinc: :D |
| 07:23.55 | tuora | karlpinc: is mimedecode a debian package? |
| 07:24.01 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-agent! |
| 07:24.03 | afabian | SexyKen, key-based authentication. man ssh ssh-agent ssh ssh-keygen |
| 07:24.05 | karlpinc | tuora: yes |
| 07:24.36 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-add |
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| 07:25.01 | muttix | i dont see any problems with sarge and this mainbard --> http://www.asrock.com/product/P4VM800.htm - maybe im wrong ? |
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| 07:25.30 | litage | is H323 or SIP more NAT- and network-friendly? |
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| 07:25.42 | Coke | muttix: the page you are referring to does not mention sarge at all. |
| 07:26.03 | kino | I want to build rxvt with pixmap support :( how?? |
| 07:26.19 | Coke | kino: download rxvt and read the INSTALL file |
| 07:26.24 | muttix | Coke, i know !..hehe... but i need to make 4.PC for some customer and want to use sarge |
| 07:26.57 | kino | Coke: is there a way to do this with debian? |
| 07:27.24 | karlpinc | One more question before I go. Is there anyplace out there on the net with gigabytes of randomness available for download? |
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| 07:27.39 | afabian | litage, SIP was more or less made because of the NAT problems with H323. |
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| 07:27.55 | Coke | muttix: why did you suggest that you could see, or not see, a problem by reading that page? |
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| 07:28.01 | rixth | I accidenally formatted some very important files, what can I use to recover them? |
| 07:28.10 | debboy | hi all. if i have a server at www.myguy.com what should be in /etc/hostname ? |
| 07:28.25 | muttix | Coke, sorry dude - misunderstanding |
| 07:28.27 | karlpinc | litage: AIX2 is very NAT/network friendly. However, it only works with asterisk so you need somebody to gateway to the PSTN. |
| 07:28.47 | Coke | kino: the sources are available via deb-src, I do not know if those sources contains support for pixmaps or if a patch is required. |
| 07:28.58 | afabian | karlpinc, if it's posted for download, it's lost most of it's quality as a source of randomness for most purposes, has it not? |
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| 07:29.24 | kino | should be builtin, but how do I build it with pixmap.. does debian pkg system provide build options |
| 07:29.28 | xchg | litage: SIP |
| 07:29.37 | karlpinc | afabian: Sure, but maybe somebody's got a cosmic ray detector running constantly... or something. |
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| 07:29.59 | xchg | liable: forget about H323. Several years ago i runned pure h323 voip network. It was a real headache to bypass client NATs |
| 07:30.14 | liable | ok.. |
| 07:30.17 | xchg | xchg: now we're on SIP, it works more or less |
| 07:30.22 | karlpinc | afabian: Trust is another matter. But I don't care all that much at the moment, it's kinda practice. |
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| 07:31.03 | benjamindees | rixth, you formatted a partition or deleted files? what filesystem type? |
| 07:31.38 | jm_ | muttix: as long as its SATA controller is supported |
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| 07:32.00 | liable | xchg: err, misfire? |
| 07:32.01 | muttix | jm_ im worried about the unichrome vga |
| 07:32.01 | jm_ | kino: you can modify it in debian/rules |
| 07:32.11 | xchg | liable: yah :-) |
| 07:32.22 | liable | :) |
| 07:32.27 | TBBle | Goodness, evolution takes time to build. I swear I just caught it doing the same thing for the fourth time. |
| 07:32.29 | xchg | liable: also there're several issues with IAX, it works also, but far not so used as SIP |
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| 07:32.42 | Coke | TBBle: bloatware is like that |
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| 07:32.57 | liable | xchg: again! |
| 07:33.18 | xchg | liable: damn autocompletion, going to switch it off. sorry pal :-) |
| 07:33.28 | liable | xchg: no problem :) |
| 07:33.56 | liable | xchg: we all have bad nick tab days :) |
| 07:34.21 | jm_ | muttix: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:34.28 | Beleys | Poy |
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| 07:34.56 | xchg | liable: sure. in several cases it's faster to type the nick than switching them with tab :-) |
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| 07:35.20 | muttix | jm_ that means kernel compile right ?... i need to deliver 4.PC's friday morning :-/ |
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| 07:36.42 | Coke | muttix: looks to me like they provide X drivers, not kernel |
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| 07:37.30 | litage | thanks afabian, karlpinc and xchg |
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| 07:38.10 | xchg | litage: feel free to ask about iptel (rather msg), i'm working with it for 5 years now |
| 07:38.15 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:38.23 | benjamindees | I'd appreciate any comments anyone might have on this: http://www.deesconsulting.com/howtos/wine-kprinter.txt |
| 07:38.25 | Coke | xchg: really, me too? |
| 07:38.25 | jm_ | muttix: no, and it turns out XFree86 in Sarge does have via_drv, but it's questionable if it's new enough to handle your version |
| 07:38.52 | muttix | damn...hmm - what to do :-/ |
| 07:38.56 | jm_ | muttix: it might be oainful to build this as it requires X sources ;) |
| 07:38.57 | muttix | thanks guys ! |
| 07:39.14 | Coke | xchg: do you know of a good, free ip stack that is near complete or complete? |
| 07:39.28 | xchg | Coke: great! however, i decided to leave this business, too unreliable to make serious competition to PSTN right now, due nature of internet IMHO |
| 07:39.45 | xchg | Coke: ip stack or voip stack ? |
| 07:39.48 | Coke | xchg: it's rather popular here. |
| 07:40.06 | Coke | xchg: sip stack, sorry. :) |
| 07:40.17 | Coke | xchg: SIP, not IP. :) my mistake. |
| 07:40.28 | xchg | Coke: i'm using SER here, quite hard to learn it syntax, but very fast and reliable at my oppinion |
| 07:40.34 | xchg | Coke: absolutely freeware |
| 07:40.35 | Coke | xchg: free? |
| 07:40.40 | xchg | Coke: GPL |
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| 07:41.13 | Coke | xchg: I'll look at it, thanks! |
| 07:41.36 | xchg | Coke: you're welcome |
| 07:41.47 | kino | jm_: ahh debian/rules, thanks |
| 07:41.49 | xchg | Coke: also there's a so-so affordable SIP implementation in Asterisk |
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| 07:42.02 | kino | turns out rxvt comes with a separate binary rxvt-xpm! you can use for background |
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| 07:50.08 | xchg | heh, when new message arrives in xchat, the button in taskbar of XFCE is starting to blink. Like in the windows. (imho disgusting) :-) Is there any relationship between blinking and GNOME/HIG ? |
| 07:50.16 | xchg | going to switch this feature off somehow |
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| 07:51.16 | gpm | any reason the xdm in sid has no init.d script? |
| 07:51.59 | Gnea | gpm: it's not installed |
| 07:52.39 | Coke | xchg: I need it to be free (as in freedom) since the plan is to build a SIP-gateway for Jabber. |
| 07:52.42 | gpm | Gnea: it is though |
| 07:52.56 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg -L xdm |
| 07:53.03 | lindenle | see if it is in the package |
| 07:53.31 | lindenle | dpkg -L xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.31 | dpkg | No packages found matching xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.33 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, there's a bunch of files...none of them in /etc/init.d |
| 07:53.50 | xchg | Coke: i think you should take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/ |
| 07:54.07 | lindenle | gpm : you could download and extract the contents to make sure |
| 07:54.08 | Coke | xchg: did you know that SER includes a XMPP interface? :) |
| 07:54.14 | xchg | Coke: since there're a several *stack* implementation. SER is rather complete gateway/proxy product |
| 07:54.19 | lindenle | gpm: did you check the bug reports for xdm |
| 07:54.28 | xchg | Coke: nope |
| 07:54.35 | xchg | Coke: i mean it doesn't |
| 07:55.07 | xchg | Coke: SER is IPTEL carrier-grade product, dedicated to deal with signalling proxing |
| 07:55.21 | lindenle | gpm: apt-get -d --reinstall install xdm |
| 07:55.28 | xchg | xchg: but you always can write a xmpp module for it :-) |
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| 07:55.32 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg --extract xdm*.deb |
| 07:55.42 | gpm | lindenle: bts doesn't have anything. |
| 07:55.48 | gpm | lindenle: i'll try out the manual install |
| 07:55.56 | Coke | xchg: it does provide a Jabber gateway though. |
| 07:55.57 | mo1991 | can anyone tell me a program that can make a mutliple page tiff out of a mutlipage document being scanned. |
| 07:56.09 | khermans | Anyone know the generic arguments to ./configure to build a static binary with all libs inclusive? I need this for a shared web server |
| 07:56.11 | Coke | xchg: http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/jabgw/xjab-manual.html |
| 07:56.18 | lindenle | gpm: it id probably broken, seems like you know what you are doing |
| 07:56.20 | mo1991 | To make a tif file that opens like a FAX doc |
| 07:56.35 | lindenle | gpm: i can add it to my sarge and see to, but most likely you need to file a bug report |
| 07:56.45 | gpm | lindenle: i appreciate your faith. :-P |
| 07:57.00 | xchg | Coke: hm, then it's alredy wrote... didn't knew even |
| 07:57.01 | lindenle | ;) |
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| 07:57.45 | lindenle | gpm: what version do you have installed |
| 07:57.58 | lindenle | the init.d part is listed in etch |
| 07:58.02 | lindenle | looking at sarge now |
| 07:58.08 | fireba11 | hi .. i got a server here that all of a sudden lost its network .. ifconfig gives no output at all .. changed NIC, no change, put HD into another bnox, no change .. any clues ? |
| 07:58.11 | gpm | 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 |
| 07:58.16 | Coke | xchg: that sucks. what am I suposed to do now when my job contract ends? :) |
| 07:58.40 | Coke | xchg: btw, iptel.org is pretty awesome. |
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| 07:59.06 | Coke | xchg: do you know why SER is not available in Debian? |
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| 07:59.30 | lindenle | gpm: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 ?? I found 4.3.0.dsfg.1-14sarge1 |
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| 07:59.41 | lindenle | gpm: do you have some external source? |
| 07:59.43 | gpm | lindenle: i'm on xorg, you're on xfree86 |
| 07:59.47 | gpm | lindenle: sid has xorg |
| 07:59.52 | gpm | lindenle: made the switch |
| 07:59.59 | xchg | Coke: have no idea. btw it WAS available |
| 08:00.09 | lindenle | gpm: right of cource, lappy is on etch xorg |
| 08:00.16 | lindenle | but server is on sarge xfree |
| 08:00.21 | lindenle | gpm: dumb me |
| 08:00.32 | xchg | Coke: in any way it's better to compile you own ser, on my memory ser shipped with debian leaked some modules and was pretty old |
| 08:00.58 | lindenle | gpm: I had to onlappy but server has no need |
| 08:01.10 | lindenle | gpm: ati->xorg nvidia->rocks |
| 08:01.13 | lindenle | :) |
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| 08:01.38 | gpm | i ought to use etch |
| 08:01.48 | gpm | but i like reporting bugs too i guess |
| 08:01.49 | lindenle | yeah...maybe |
| 08:01.55 | lindenle | some things are a bit flaky |
| 08:01.56 | Coke | xchg: I can't find it at all. Would be nice to have it setup nicely by Debian though. |
| 08:02.05 | lindenle | gpm: :) i hear that |
| 08:02.08 | xchg | Coke: what to start after contract end? i'll give you an advice :-) Ser is very complicated ware. I'm thought on getting it more user-friendly. Writing frontend for configuring it for example. Take a look at ser.cfg to understand what i'm speaking about. It's more similar to C source code that to config file |
| 08:02.36 | xchg | Coke: so why don't you write something to make a SER users life more easy :-) |
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| 08:03.18 | Coke | xchg: C-code isn't a problem for me. |
| 08:03.20 | fireba11 | anyone got a clue about my network problem ? it's kinda urgent |
| 08:03.30 | Coke | xchg: I don't need/want to make their lives easier? |
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| 08:04.16 | Coke | xchg: what I really want is VoIP support for Jabber clients. And I don't want to use Google's Jingle or some other BS, I want the real deal = SIP. |
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| 08:04.23 | xchg | Coke: i mean it just looks like it, the hidden logic acts differently. If you company will like ser and will pay you to writing config frontend then why not? But in anyway it's none of my business, i just gave an advice |
| 08:04.26 | dbi | fireba11: ask your question. if anyone can help (s)he will |
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| 08:04.35 | lindenle | fireball: does lspci still show card? Is module loaded |
| 08:05.02 | dbi | fireba11: sorry, you already asked it. |
| 08:05.12 | Coke | xchg: "my company" is a university and my contract ends with them in february. this is my own, private project, something to do while being unemployed. |
| 08:05.38 | lindenle | gpm: i think it is a bug..... |
| 08:05.41 | xchg | Coke: got it |
| 08:06.25 | fooz | there any good programmer's editors that emacs users can cope with? |
| 08:06.29 | Coke | xchg: the configuration looks a lot like exim or postgresql-configs since they describe some logic too. |
| 08:06.37 | Coke | fooz: "cope"? |
| 08:06.40 | fooz | yeah |
| 08:06.41 | lindenle | gpm: that looks like the newest xdm anyway, i think |
| 08:06.57 | fooz | like, an emacs user probably can't cope with Microsoft Visual Studio or any clones of that |
| 08:07.17 | Coke | fooz: coop [1913 Websters] To form a cope or arch; to bend or arch; to bow |
| 08:07.28 | Coke | fooz: emacs does not bend for anyone. :) |
| 08:07.32 | xchg | Coke: it's a very robust approach to configuring, since you can describe any SIP logic in config. Even if you want to deploy a non standart approaches, like H323/SIP conversion via external stuff, billing, or NAT traversal |
| 08:07.35 | fireba11 | can someone please tell me what is wrong if network is gone .. ifconfig doesn#t even output loopback device |
| 08:07.39 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, i'm reporting right now |
| 08:07.44 | gpm | making sure i'm not reporting a dupe |
| 08:07.46 | xchg | Coke: but the most users stuck on it :-) |
| 08:07.59 | lindenle | gpm: nice work |
| 08:08.08 | Coke | fooz: the best choice for an emacs user is most likely emacs. if they must I guess they could probably use vim. |
| 08:08.22 | lindenle | fireball: did you change kernel? |
| 08:08.31 | Jakal | fireba11: ifup eth0 try :p (if your using NIC) |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | lindenle: no, no change at all |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | Jakal: treid that .. gives an error |
| 08:08.58 | lindenle | fireball: or edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:08.59 | Jakal | fireba11: what error? |
| 08:09.01 | lindenle | fireball: which is? |
| 08:09.01 | fireba11 | lindenle: interfaces is looking fine |
| 08:09.06 | Coke | fooz: I'm not a hardcore emacs user, I have vim as my second choice if emacs is unavailable for some inexplicable reason. |
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| 08:09.31 | Coke | xchg: I probably will too, but not because the syntax is tough, but because I don't understand SIP that much. I'm hoping the tutorial will change that. |
| 08:09.37 | Coke | xchg: did you work for iptel org? |
| 08:10.05 | xchg | Coke: no, i have the own company in Europe. I'm just using their product |
| 08:10.29 | xchg | Coke: there're several tutorials about SIP on the net, you can google for them |
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| 08:10.38 | lindenle | fireball: can you ifup lo? |
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| 08:10.43 | xchg | Coke: "sip ser example" on my memory |
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| 08:11.29 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:11.35 | liable | any opions on dvd-backup? |
| 08:11.47 | mo1991 | what is the command line command to switch workstations (meaning screens on 1 x session - not ctrF8) etc |
| 08:11.54 | jm_ | liable: I use dobackup.pl and growisofs :) |
| 08:11.55 | Coke | xchg: no problem, iptel provides tutorials as well. |
| 08:12.07 | jm_ | mo1991: ehh? |
| 08:12.14 | mo1991 | meaning when I have a 4 desktop switcher in my menu bar |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | jm_ does this make sense |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | ? |
| 08:12.28 | jm_ | mo1991: not to me, sorry |
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| 08:12.33 | lindenle | mo1991: depends on window manager |
| 08:12.36 | Blackhold | hi! |
| 08:12.37 | mo1991 | i use gnome |
| 08:12.55 | lindenle | mo1991: i use kde and it is set to ctrl-alt-left |
| 08:13.00 | lindenle | or ctrl-alt-right |
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| 08:13.02 | mo1991 | gnome lets you have a workspace switcher on your start menu that you can have a fresh desktop background |
| 08:13.06 | jm_ | ahh you want to switch to a different GNOME desktop with comamnd line tool? |
| 08:13.09 | Coke | xchg: a lot of people are switching to SIP and voip here in Sweden because it's very cheap to build infrastructure for it compared to the other, trademark technologies. |
| 08:13.19 | lindenle | i think gnome might use alt-F1 alt-F2 etc |
| 08:13.31 | lindenle | oh i missed command line sorry |
| 08:13.39 | mo1991 | lindenle - it's the same for gnome - I'm looking to add it to a script though |
| 08:13.44 | liable | jm_: whats that perl script in? |
| 08:13.45 | mo1991 | need a command line command to do it |
| 08:13.54 | lindenle | right :( sorry |
| 08:14.00 | mo1991 | anyone know |
| 08:14.09 | jm_ | liable: not in Debian, I have it in /usr/local (you can find it on freshmeat) - I guess it deserves to be packaged |
| 08:14.12 | Blackhold | I have configured the xwindow through editing the XF86config, I've putted 1024x768, but now the x are descentred, I couldn't configure the screen to center the image, the VGA that I have is a VGA P4M800, a integrated VGA into a asrock motherboard, P4VM8 (I think so) |
| 08:14.19 | jm_ | mo1991: you can always do it with tools like xnee |
| 08:14.19 | liable | jm_: ok, cheers |
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| 08:15.03 | xchg | Coke: unfotently due nature of the internet voip communications aren't reliable to comparsion with POTS, and it's hardly possible to describe to angry customer that his voip box isn't working becose his damned ISP messed something up, or there's loop-routing somewhere at (for example) TISCALI backbone, and it's not our fscked fault :-) |
| 08:15.03 | jm_ | xnee or xte from xautomation package |
| 08:15.32 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:15.45 | jm_ | with aptitude or apt-get ... |
| 08:15.57 | jm_ | so yes, someone knows |
| 08:15.58 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl |
| 08:15.59 | Coke | xchg: but I agree with you that SER needs another configuration interface. I think it would have been better of using a Python or Scheme-like syntax. |
| 08:16.18 | xchg | Coke: i've thought about M4 macro processing |
| 08:16.21 | Zugschlus | deadcat: what should be fixed in exim? |
| 08:16.21 | Kimy | thankiu lindenle :) |
| 08:16.33 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl8.0-dev i guess |
| 08:16.33 | Coke | xchg: "nature of internet" is fine. internet for me is as reliable as the old tele net. |
| 08:16.33 | diana | Kimy: As root type "apt-get install tclx8.4 |
| 08:16.40 | lindenle | if you want to compile something |
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| 08:16.43 | jm_ | he needs TCL devel packages |
| 08:16.50 | jm_ | and eggdrop is packaged too |
| 08:16.56 | lindenle | Jim_: right |
| 08:16.57 | Coke | xchg: I think going with an s-expression syntax would be most beneficial |
| 08:17.09 | Zugschlus | dos000: use some combination of exigrep or exipick with xargs exim -Mrm |
| 08:17.15 | Kimy | thankiu diana :) |
| 08:17.17 | Kimy | it worked |
| 08:17.20 | xchg | Coke: since, let's agree with it, you can do virtually anything with it config, but there're more or less standart features that ITSP expects, like less-cost-routing, voicemail, etc.. and they can be deployed as simple macros the administrator just choice from |
| 08:17.26 | fireba11 | lindenle: sorry, can't reproduce right now since i took out the disk .. thought there might be a quick fix to this |
| 08:17.33 | Zugschlus | buu: ext3 |
| 08:17.34 | diana | Kimy: jm_ is right..you also need developer packages. |
| 08:17.36 | Blackhold | how I configure the vga?! |
| 08:17.39 | diana | Since you are compiling the eggdrop. |
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| 08:17.59 | Kimy | diana that means? Hmm i'm kind of noob in linux :/ |
| 08:17.59 | diana | Kimy: apt-get install tcl8.4-dev |
| 08:18.05 | lindenle | fireball: so working again? |
| 08:18.18 | Kimy | works too :) |
| 08:18.21 | Zugschlus | Gnea: grml can do lvm2 and is much better than knoppix anyway |
| 08:18.29 | fireba11 | lindenle: no .. took out the HD to rescue the data since it's important |
| 08:18.34 | diana | Kimy: now compile your eggdrop. |
| 08:18.40 | lindenle | fireball: claro |
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| 08:18.59 | Coke | xchg: s-expressions! :) |
| 08:18.59 | diana | Kimy: Instead of compiling your eggdrop...you could just "apt-get install eggdrop" and you are done. |
| 08:19.02 | xchg | Coke: so there's no need to get a 500+ page SER manual to understand the working logic and deploy a voicmail system (took 2 days for me), user just can choice a needed macro and recompile the config file :-) |
| 08:19.12 | Kimy | hmm :) |
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| 08:19.16 | Kimy | diana thx |
| 08:19.17 | lindenle | fireball: this is very curious, i would like to see what lspci gives, maybe your oci bus is acting up...but all conjectures |
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| 08:19.43 | bunga | hi where some site to get last repositories for woody 3.0 |
| 08:19.52 | Coke | xchg: he, very powerful. |
| 08:19.56 | Blackhold | please some help |
| 08:19.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: any full Debian mirror has it |
| 08:19.58 | sep | bunga, in all mirrors |
| 08:20.08 | lindenle | bunga: old-stable or woody |
| 08:20.08 | diana | dondelelcaro: What mode is J? |
| 08:20.14 | dondelelcaro | !tell diana -about fn modes |
| 08:20.14 | diana | What is this weird ircd |
| 08:20.17 | jm_ | bunga: you can find old releases on archive.debian.org |
| 08:20.22 | bunga | dondelelcaro the site pls |
| 08:20.29 | xchg | Coke: btw, it rather looks like sendmail.cf :-) and acts like it too :-) |
| 08:20.31 | bunga | woody 3.0 |
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| 08:20.42 | dondelelcaro | bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
| 08:20.53 | crashbg[work] | gyis, i have sarge and mysql4, and mysql4 doesn't support cp1251??? how can i add support for this charset |
| 08:21.05 | bunga | btw hos to see my version |
| 08:21.07 | bunga | how |
| 08:21.20 | jm_ | bunga: /msg dpkg debian version |
| 08:21.22 | dondelelcaro | bunga: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.31 | Guerin | !what am I running? |
| 08:21.31 | dpkg | What? You don't know what branch of what OS you're running? To find out, compare the output of dpkg -l libc6; cat /etc/debian_version; apt-cache policy; with known versions, such as are to be found on packages.debian.org. |
| 08:21.38 | bunga | n# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.40 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:21.47 | xchg | crashbg[work]: http://www.opennet.ru/base/dev/rus_locale_mysql.txt.html AFAIK |
| 08:21.51 | bunga | that how to get the latest repos for that |
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| 08:22.03 | Guerin | bunga: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 08:22.20 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ <== add this to /etc/apt/sources.list ?? |
| 08:22.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: no. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 08:23.16 | bunga | i wanna upgrade my server to latest release of woody |
| 08:23.33 | bunga | mean all package |
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| 08:23.43 | diana | bunga: You are using potato? |
| 08:23.50 | dondelelcaro | bunga: so run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;. |
| 08:24.00 | bunga | yeah dondelelcaro like that |
| 08:24.13 | sep | bunga, read the woody release notes |
| 08:24.15 | bunga | but first i wanna get sources.list first |
| 08:24.24 | sep | !tell bunga about potato->woody |
| 08:24.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: you should already have your sources.list set right. If not, run apt-setup, and make sure it's set to woody, not stable. |
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| 08:25.38 | nrdb | How do you rename a Flash drive under KDE? |
| 08:25.42 | Coke | xchg: I'm telling you, build a config using already existing Scheme implementations, or write your own. S-expressions are the simplest to do very concrete operating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression |
| 08:25.54 | Coke | xchg: Or, when I'm good enough with SER I will do it! ;) |
| 08:25.55 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: you should already have your <== i'm del last night |
| 08:25.59 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.01 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.18 | xchg | Coke: i don't know much about s-expr, will check it now |
| 08:26.27 | xchg | Coke: anyway, have a lot of time today :-) |
| 08:26.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: then run apt-setup to configur eit. |
| 08:26.50 | diana | bunga: What version of debian are you using...what do you see when you cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:26.58 | Gnea | oh wow. |
| 08:27.02 | dondelelcaro | diana: see scrollback; we did that one already... |
| 08:27.12 | Gnea | the latest E17 made several jumps |
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| 08:27.29 | lindenle | diana: I think he is using some bunk packages from back ports.org or something |
| 08:27.36 | Gnea | nearly all configuration options are now point and click |
| 08:27.37 | blueSmurf | hi |
| 08:27.38 | xchg | Coke: argh, it say these're Lisp-natured |
| 08:27.41 | bunga | i'm use this version |
| 08:27.42 | lindenle | diana: maybe the sources.list file should be checked |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:27.45 | xchg | hi blueSmurf |
| 08:27.58 | diana | !tell bunga about woody->sarge |
| 08:28.04 | jm_ | lindenle: Bunk provided packages required to run 2.6 kernel on Woody, there were only a few |
| 08:28.23 | diana | bunga: If you hosed your sources.list type "apt-setup" like dondelelcaro told you to. |
| 08:28.27 | lindenle | jm_: oh sorry |
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| 08:29.33 | bunga | # apt-setup |
| 08:29.34 | bunga | bash: apt-setup: command not found |
| 08:29.49 | rAz_ | ouch |
| 08:29.50 | jm_ | !tell bunga -about installit |
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| 08:30.40 | diana | bunga: What country do you live in? |
| 08:30.50 | diana | bunga: Or what country does your server live in? |
| 08:30.51 | bunga | uk |
| 08:30.59 | bunga | switzerland |
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| 08:31.05 | Marsian | What needs to be installed for the gdm to boot? |
| 08:31.07 | blueSmurf | ukrainia ? |
| 08:31.13 | bunga | nono |
| 08:31.14 | bunga | switzerland |
| 08:31.15 | Marsian | I can't seem to get it working on my laptop. |
| 08:31.29 | jm_ | Marsian: aptitude/apt-get will install all of its dependencies ... |
| 08:31.34 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: isnt Ukrainia a city in russia? |
| 08:31.42 | Marsian | jm_: Well, it won't boot. |
| 08:31.43 | bbmj | i had upgraded to the 2.6 kernel about 6 months ago. i resently went back to the 2.4 kernel. when upgrading to 2.6 i had to remove some libs and install others to get the cdburner to work but have forgotten which ones. can someone tell me a way or method to use in order to get things working again? |
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| 08:31.52 | jm_ | Marsian: I don't believe that |
| 08:31.57 | blueSmurf | raf256, beats me, I flunked geography :) |
| 08:31.59 | Marsian | jm_: Just comes up with a blank screen. |
| 08:32.04 | Marsian | Not sure what the problem is. |
| 08:32.09 | jm_ | bbmj: the same method will work with both kernels |
| 08:32.10 | bunga | diana ? |
| 08:32.14 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: anyway, russian, iraq, ukraina - same thing, lets bomb them! |
| 08:32.26 | jm_ | Marsian: right, so it boots but screen is not OK - does kernel still work at that point? |
| 08:32.47 | Marsian | No. |
| 08:32.53 | bbmj | jm_, are you saying it should work either way? |
| 08:32.56 | jm_ | how do you know? |
| 08:32.58 | jm_ | bbmj: right |
| 08:33.02 | Marsian | Or at least I can't switch to any of the virtual terminals. |
| 08:33.03 | blueSmurf | Marsian, can you run it manually ? (with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) |
| 08:33.13 | jm_ | that doesn't mean the kernel is not running |
| 08:33.18 | Marsian | blueSmurf: Tried that, but it goes to the blank screen. |
| 08:33.36 | blueSmurf | Marsian, and X is working , yes ? |
| 08:34.09 | Marsian | Does x.org use the "startx" command? |
| 08:34.30 | xchg | Marsian: it does |
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| 08:34.53 | Marsian | Well, for some reason I don't have that command. |
| 08:35.03 | Marsian | Does that mean I should re-install x.org? |
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| 08:35.11 | tapas | hi |
| 08:35.24 | Marsian | I installed xserver-xorg (and its dependencies). |
| 08:35.40 | tapas | i wonder how i can enable the option APT::Force-LoopBreak |
| 08:35.53 | raf256 | echo "Suck my cock" | festival --tts |
| 08:36.02 | raf256 | omg! |
| 08:36.06 | raf256 | wrong channel |
| 08:36.09 | jm_ | install x-window-system-core or without -core to get more of it |
| 08:36.13 | tapas | ;) |
| 08:36.14 | raf256 | !smite me |
| 08:36.21 | Marsian | jm_: I did that too |
| 08:36.34 | Marsian | Should I just try re-installing it? |
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| 08:36.47 | tapas | i installed from an olde testing cd and now i try to upgrade to unstable |
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| 08:37.08 | bbmj | jm_, here is the main portion of debug /usr/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. but charater devices /dev/sg0 through 16 are present. |
| 08:37.12 | Marsian | Oh yeah, I am using unstable if that matters. |
| 08:37.29 | tapas | which tells me about the need to remove the essential package e2fsprogs |
| 08:37.33 | bbmj | jm_, yes scsi emulation is turned on. |
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| 08:37.41 | jm_ | bbmj: don't use it |
| 08:37.48 | tapas | so i wonder how i can make apt-get use tat optoin |
| 08:37.52 | i2501 | i cant browse to http://192.168.11.1/ to forward some ports....i can do this in winxp...how to do it in debian? |
| 08:37.55 | bbmj | jm_, on the 2.4? |
| 08:38.02 | tapas | cause the manpage doesn't tell me anything about it |
| 08:38.07 | jm_ | bbmj: right, it works without it on 2.4 too |
| 08:38.07 | ootput | not atapi |
| 08:38.11 | tarzeau | GOD FUCKINNG DAMN USB BULLSHIT |
| 08:38.15 | jm_ | Marsian: install xbase-clients |
| 08:38.18 | tarzeau | what's this? usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=8 (error=-71) |
| 08:38.20 | Coke | xchg: you can ignore that Lisp too utilizes the efficiency of S-Expressions. the really neet thing is that it's very easy to parse and generate working (and well-written) s-expressions. it is also very easy to write editor indentation support for it. basically, anything that requires analyzing is easy with them. |
| 08:38.23 | ootput | how are you, tarzeau? |
| 08:38.35 | Marsian | jm_: Thank you I will try that. |
| 08:38.41 | Marsian | be back in a few if it doesn't work |
| 08:38.42 | bbmj | thought it was required... this is exactly how it used to work but i'll try it. |
| 08:38.46 | jm_ | bbmj: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdX or cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 08:38.49 | tarzeau | ootput: good apart from users wawnting to use crap floppy drives, shit usb, and shit zip drivers |
| 08:38.52 | jm_ | no it's not required |
| 08:38.58 | tarzeau | ootput: and fucking cd-rom drives, and scanners |
| 08:39.09 | tarzeau | ootput: they fucking have 100mbit internet and they want to use floppy! |
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| 08:39.34 | ootput | assholes probably want to boot from floppy |
| 08:39.35 | xchg | Coke: in fact, on my oppinion it would be the best to make ser packages for debian utilizing it package configuration ability. |
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| 08:39.57 | Guerin | floppy drives should be forcibly removed from all machines |
| 08:40.09 | mhall | Guerin: ? |
| 08:40.11 | xchg | Coke: just like with X, debconf is asking questions and generates xorg.conf(XF86Config) at end |
| 08:40.13 | tarzeau | ootput: no they just want to make backups, albeit WE make already backups! |
| 08:40.26 | jm_ | heh some of the machines we're buying here come without floppies these days, of course the other components in them are crap too |
| 08:40.30 | mhall | tarzeau: don't get me started on backups |
| 08:40.31 | ootput | and yes, they should |
| 08:40.33 | tarzeau | ootput: booting is disabled for all media, and if they do, there's someone at the machine telling them to not do that |
| 08:40.37 | jm_ | without floppy drives I mean |
| 08:40.38 | fireba11 | Guerin please force microsoft to accept anything else then floppy for storage driver at install then ^^ |
| 08:40.48 | jm_ | fireba11: CD ... |
| 08:40.59 | ootput | fireba11: that F6 bullshit pisses me off to no end |
| 08:40.59 | mhall | tarzeau: my .edu fucked up and let their mail server get full, so they deleted our trash folders and our sent items older than 100 days without asking |
| 08:41.06 | Guerin | fireba11: you choose to use microsoft, it's your funeral |
| 08:41.24 | tarzeau | mhall: we never do things like that |
| 08:41.29 | tarzeau | mhall: which .edu? |
| 08:41.34 | fireba11 | Guerin: i have to .. for workstations at work at least |
| 08:41.35 | ootput | of course, there's always a slipstream+unattended, but how troublesome is that? |
| 08:41.37 | mhall | tarzeau: i sent them an extremely unhappy message explaining that i'd relied on their statements about their mail service and their backups to preserve some legally important stuff |
| 08:41.41 | Guerin | fireba11: sucks to be you. |
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| 08:42.07 | themusicgod1 | is it a bad thing that the new version of folding@home does not display on top? |
| 08:42.17 | mhall | tarzeau: if they don't restore it i'll have to bust a bureaucratic cap on their ass so bigg that they'll talk with their anal sphincters when i'm done |
| 08:42.19 | tarzeau | mhall: sounds like bad suckage |
| 08:42.22 | mhall | tarzeau: univ. of the pacific |
| 08:42.30 | tarzeau | go go go mhall! |
| 08:42.33 | fireba11 | Guerin: correct, since an important system died on me yesterday and i have to get it working again asap |
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| 08:43.12 | mhall | Guerin: my university will need a saint to resurrect them if they don't fix this |
| 08:43.23 | themusicgod1 | scratch that there it is |
| 08:43.31 | themusicgod1 | weiiird i could have sworn it wasn't there for a second |
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| 08:43.35 | Guerin | mhall: saints can't resurrect. |
| 08:43.41 | Coke | xchg: but that's the even higher level, sure, it's good. debconf could generate the s-expressions. but s-expressions need no syntax analisys, just lexical parsing. |
| 08:43.48 | Guerin | mhall: they can do a pretty good Last Rites though |
| 08:44.10 | Coke | xchg: nevermind. :) I have to do some work and then I'm going to read the slides from iptel.org |
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| 08:44.36 | mhall | Guerin: thought they had to perform one miracle to be a saint |
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| 08:45.09 | mhall | Coke: what about lisp, where you work with raw parse trees? |
| 08:45.11 | Guerin | mhall: yeah, but none have ever resurrected anyone |
| 08:45.17 | Guerin | i mean |
| 08:45.22 | mhall | Guerin: nor have they done any of the rest ;-) |
| 08:45.28 | Guerin | that's why jesus is like the #1 saint |
| 08:46.05 | ootput | ligara |
| 08:46.16 | mhall | well then if they screw me they'll be needing help from the most improbable of the improbable |
| 08:46.28 | mhall | good fucking luck i wish them |
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| 08:46.42 | mhall | they'll all be fcuked when i'm done |
| 08:46.49 | mhall | french connection will make millions |
| 08:46.52 | ootput | french connection? |
| 08:46.55 | ootput | brr |
| 08:47.04 | liable | cold? |
| 08:47.08 | ootput | rabbit |
| 08:48.17 | Coke | mhall: yeah, what about it? |
| 08:48.54 | Coke | mhall: the current configuration file uses an imperative paradigm, I suggested using an s-expression instead. |
| 08:48.54 | mhall | Coke: it was primarily a language troll |
| 08:49.07 | mhall | Coke: since i had no idea what you were talking about ;-) |
| 08:49.25 | mhall | configuration files are scary |
| 08:49.37 | Coke | mhall: aha. we're not really talking languages, just paradigms. it's so much easier and simpler to use s-expressions over imperative syntax. |
| 08:49.45 | mhall | i wish people took them half as seriously as data or code |
| 08:50.07 | mhall | to tell you the truth my impression of them is corrupted |
| 08:50.29 | mhall | by the fact that i haven't seen any that used some kind of theoretically reasonable programming paradigm at all |
| 08:50.47 | mhall | which is not to say such is not existant |
| 08:51.02 | mhall | merely that i wasn't conscious of it when i saw it or it's not around yet |
| 08:51.23 | caphuso | mhall: ~/.emacs |
| 08:51.26 | mhall | as far as i can tell the best sort of config file would use xml with obvious short tags |
| 08:51.33 | caphuso | you're insane |
| 08:51.35 | Coke | mhall: no. |
| 08:51.50 | Coke | mhall: XML is overly complicated to describe data structures and logic. |
| 08:51.53 | mhall | caphuso: that's been said and reiterated and i won't dispute it |
| 08:52.02 | mhall | Coke: i don't think so |
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| 08:52.10 | mhall | Coke: i think people overcomplicate it |
| 08:52.11 | caphuso | no config file should ever use xml, for it being stupid, useless, cumbersome and without any benefit at all |
| 08:52.28 | Coke | mhall: what you think is irrelevant, I _know_ that it takes more effort to both read and write XML than it does to read and write s-expressions or YAML. |
| 08:52.36 | mhall | not for me |
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| 08:52.43 | Coke | mhall: then you do not work as normal humans. |
| 08:53.16 | Coke | mhall: like caphuso says, there are no benefits of using XML over other types of expressions. |
| 08:53.44 | Coke | take a look at YAML |
| 08:53.56 | mhall | i think this is a canonical example of an issue with no good answer |
| 08:54.04 | zinx | OMG XML SOAP AJAX LOLZ |
| 08:54.13 | mhall | if there were one so far, we'd just be using it and not arguing about the different ones |
| 08:54.33 | Coke | mhall: until you, or anybody, provides me with a good explanation why XML is necesseary I will consider it a bad choice for configuration files. |
| 08:54.49 | mhall | but in any case i can't see how s-expressions are sufficient for representing everything a config file might need |
| 08:54.54 | zinx | i would like to note here, that reguardless of whether XML is good for configuration files, fontconfig's xml configuration file is entirely wrong :) |
| 08:54.55 | dondelelcaro | xml is just a reasonably standard method of creating machine parseable files; it's craptacular for human editable configuration files |
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| 08:55.15 | mhall | it seems like perhaps you will need more than just data in some kinds of file |
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| 08:55.32 | Coke | mhall: Then I don't think you understand how what they represent. |
| 08:55.33 | mhall | perhaps a better choice would be something like lua |
| 08:55.44 | zinx | ugh, 1-indexed languages |
| 08:56.09 | Coke | mhall: S-Expressions are not merely data, they also describe things like logic and presedence. |
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| 08:56.32 | mhall | Coke: what about if you need something like a closure, some kind of user defined action to take |
| 08:56.43 | mhall | it's not clear how an s expression would deal with that |
| 08:56.57 | mhall | it could reference some other data file perhaps |
| 08:57.08 | mhall | but then that file would need some more turing complete entity |
| 08:57.24 | mhall | such as what's provided today by shell scripts |
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| 08:57.34 | Guerin | sorry ... does anyone actually think XML is good for config files? |
| 08:57.37 | mhall | but i always thought shell script callbacks, etc. were a hack |
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| 08:57.52 | mhall | Guerin: i'm not sure it's the best thing but i think it could work |
| 08:57.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expression have nothing to do with a language being turing complete or not. |
| 08:58.02 | Guerin | i thought the only people who used it were those who wanted to make life easier for the program, not the user |
| 08:58.12 | Guerin | mhall: you're just plain wrong. |
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| 08:58.13 | Coke | Guerin: indeed you are correct. |
| 08:58.16 | EdLin | mhall: you could do like emacs and have a LISP interpreter built into your s-expression parser. :-) |
| 08:58.20 | mhall | people write stuff in HTML often |
| 08:58.29 | Toshi | hello @ all |
| 08:58.33 | jm_ | Guerin: XML is a nightmare to parse, hardly easier for the program |
| 08:58.33 | mhall | EdLin: yes this could be done |
| 08:58.45 | Coke | The _only_ reason anybody would use XML is to utilize the vast number of parsers and data type verifiers (DTD and/or schemas) |
| 08:58.47 | mhall | EdLin: but LISP is harder to use than shell scripts |
| 08:58.51 | dondelelcaro | jm_: possibly, but that problem has largely been solved. |
| 08:58.58 | Coke | It is a choice by the programmer for his convenience, not the end users. |
| 08:59.08 | mhall | i don't believe that's true |
| 08:59.09 | Coke | mhall: for what? |
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| 08:59.13 | dondelelcaro | jm_: unless you're into reinventing wheels for some reason |
| 08:59.14 | Toshi | i got a little problem |
| 08:59.15 | Toshi | apt-get upgrade shows me an unmed dependencies error |
| 08:59.22 | Coke | mhall: Lisp is easier to write fuzzy logic and AI with than BASH. |
| 08:59.22 | Guerin | jm_: the only good use for xml is as a markup language for documents which need to be rendered into arbitrary formats |
| 08:59.22 | dondelelcaro | !tell Toshi -about bat |
| 08:59.24 | mhall | i was an XML end user and found it was very good for what we did |
| 08:59.24 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: you mean by using various libraries to do the job and call callbacks? |
| 08:59.29 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: follow those instructions if you can |
| 08:59.32 | Toshi | installing this packet is due an preinstal error not |
| 08:59.38 | mhall | Coke: we were talking about everyday configuration |
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| 08:59.50 | mhall | Coke: so please see my statements as pertaining to this topic |
| 08:59.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expressions are the best if you require logic in your config file. |
| 08:59.58 | dondelelcaro | jm_: that's one method; there are also libraries which can parse the entire thing into a data structure as well if the file is known to be small enough to do that |
| 09:00.08 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: true |
| 09:00.14 | mhall | Coke: i don't see how you can say they are always the best for logic |
| 09:00.20 | Coke | mhall: if you only need data structures I think YAML is by far superior to XML. |
| 09:00.35 | Toshi | its all about the tetex |
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| 09:00.49 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: right, well, we'll need the whole output so we can see exactly what is going on |
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| 09:01.01 | Huahua | 不错 |
| 09:01.04 | mhall | some kinds of config file use special regular expressions to deal with logic |
| 09:01.18 | mhall | and it's very fast and works pretty well for pattern matching situations |
| 09:01.30 | mhall | so one could argue standard ml would be better than s-expressions |
| 09:01.47 | Coke | mhall: for configuration files, yes, when s-expressions vs imperative aproach. I think config files could use a declarative aproach too. |
| 09:01.47 | mhall | s-expressions are not always the clearest most readable thing |
| 09:01.49 | Toshi | tetex-extra depends tetex-base an it not installed |
| 09:02.02 | Coke | mhall: certainly more readable than XML |
| 09:02.03 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: and why can't you install tetex-base? |
| 09:02.38 | mhall | Coke: i don't know, good xml can make a lot of things pretty clear |
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| 09:02.59 | mhall | the problem with most xml is that it's bloated but nothing about xml makes the bloat mandatory |
| 09:03.00 | Coke | mhall: I agree. but YAML or s-expressions makes it even more clear. |
| 09:03.04 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard, kernel is 2.6.14 |
| 09:03.07 | mhall | the problem is the users |
| 09:03.22 | mhall | they have misapplied the tool in cases |
| 09:03.33 | roo9 | with packages.debian.org down, does anyone know what package contains glib-config ? or how can i find that |
| 09:03.33 | jm_ | TiCPU: anything useful in logs when that starts happening? |
| 09:03.41 | jm_ | roo9: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:03.45 | Toshi | subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:03.47 | Coke | mhall: "<a>b</a>" VS "a: b" |
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| 09:04.10 | Coke | mhall: http://yaml.org/ |
| 09:04.11 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, wait a second |
| 09:04.29 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard |
| 09:04.31 | TiCPU | sorry |
| 09:04.38 | TiCPU | did not paste the right line |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting... |
| 09:04.45 | xchg | TiCPU: Realtek 8139 ? |
| 09:05.09 | TiCPU | via-rhine: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) |
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| 09:05.40 | Toshi | dondelelcaro: subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:05.49 | xchg | TiCPU: strange...had same problem with 8139...solved by using another module |
| 09:05.50 | mhall | the examples of YAML i'm seeing are not especially clear |
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| 09:06.08 | zimnyx | Do you know some mozilla-inbox commandline reader ? |
| 09:06.09 | TiCPU | it does so in both PIO and MMIO |
| 09:06.12 | mhall | i don't think i'd use it in a config file if i could use a tag system or lisp s-expr instead |
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| 09:06.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: I have via-rhine onboard at home, works fine - are you sure your link is OK when that happens? |
| 09:06.32 | mhall | it requires memorizing a custom syntax that isn't that obvious |
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| 09:07.18 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, rebooting just make it works until I start a download, I am on that computer right now, been on IRC for an hour or so, when downloading it won't last 5 minutes |
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| 09:08.04 | TiCPU | when the problem happens, the RX dropped count in ifconfig increase until all the pending packets came in and TX does not move at all |
| 09:08.21 | mhall | i wonder if you could develop a context free configuration file format where you don't have to worry about hierarchializing things |
| 09:08.33 | mhall | that would eliminate many of the headaches |
| 09:09.03 | diana | testing uses mysql 4.1...and not 5.0? |
| 09:09.34 | TiCPU | xchg: was it the same problem as this or ? |
| 09:09.40 | mhall | diana: 5.0 is really new and not esp stable yet afaict |
| 09:09.55 | xchg | TiCPU: packet drop after certain amount of downloaded data |
| 09:10.06 | mhall | diana: so it could take some time for them to get all the versions of the related packages compiled at the same time as each other and imported into stable |
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| 09:10.09 | bibe | diana : you can use mysql-server-5.0 from testing |
| 09:10.27 | mhall | alright, i just thought of a debian question finally... |
| 09:10.30 | TiCPU | xchg: you say changing the module helped, mm maybe I could try a make clean and make on my kernel |
| 09:10.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: might be an IRQ issue - I know I've had that when I started using it, then I used out-of-the-kernel-tree driver and that one worked, but then the problem disappeared, maybe try using various kernel options, such as disabling ACPI, APIC or pci=noacpi |
| 09:10.44 | xchg | TiCPU: at 2.6.x (don't remember exactly), but as i mentioned before it was 8139. Problem was solved by switching to 8139too instead of 8139cp |
| 09:10.52 | mhall | how do i set a hold on a package without using dselect? aptitude hold seems toothless and does not cause a package hold to 'stick' |
| 09:11.32 | TiCPU | mmm let me see the difference |
| 09:11.36 | xchg | TiCPU: you're using custom kernel? then the problem may be in some sort of mis-configured things (somewhere in BUS PCI section) |
| 09:11.39 | mhall | TiCPU: see if you can check /proc/interrupts and yank out unneeded pci cards and disable unneeded peripherals until your netcard gets its own IRQ |
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| 09:11.55 | TiCPU | let me see IRQ |
| 09:11.58 | mhall | TiCPU: i have had netcards that fail when sharing IRQs on PCI |
| 09:12.14 | jm_ | yeah that was my problem too |
| 09:12.14 | mhall | TiCPU: even though Intel mandates such support in the spec |
| 09:12.21 | mhall | jm_: fucking sucks doesn't it |
| 09:12.22 | Toshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.24 | TiCPU | it is alone on IRQ 19, only sharing is made by 'all-the-usb-ports' |
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| 09:12.26 | jm_ | mhall: indeed |
| 09:12.40 | mhall | TiCPU: hmm yeah, oughta work then |
| 09:12.46 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: I need the full output; use the paster bot to paste it. |
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| 09:12.52 | streuner | TV-card and soundcard doesn't work here (sharing the same IRQ) |
| 09:12.52 | mhall | TiCPU: maybe as they said, driver isn't quite right |
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| 09:13.26 | mhall | TiCPU: also better check make sure pci settings aren't weird, and any performance enhancements like mmapping io registers, etc. in driver are disabled until it's stable |
| 09:13.35 | gbkyle | any idea why apt-get installing a kernel/headers for a 2.6-686-smp would fail on boot? i get some /dev/console error and kernel panic. |
| 09:13.39 | TiCPU | is there a way to check if driver is in MMIO / PIO mode ? |
| 09:13.45 | mhall | TiCPU: additionally see if you can enable driver verbose logging |
| 09:13.59 | streuner | gbkyle: custom kernel? |
| 09:14.01 | gbkyle | nope |
| 09:14.07 | Silent_al | hi , ive got IE6 installed with wine , where can i find the original icon for it? |
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| 09:14.11 | mhall | TiCPU: see what you linked into the kernel /proc/config.gz if you enabled kernel config support |
| 09:14.11 | gbkyle | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 09:14.17 | streuner | gbkyle: grub? |
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| 09:14.22 | gbkyle | yes |
| 09:14.24 | mhall | TiCPU: otherwise .config in the code tree |
| 09:14.32 | thirst | where can i find a .deb package of gaim-2.0-beta ? |
| 09:14.34 | TiCPU | and yes, I enabled MMIO first, I thhough that was the cause, I did a make modules after disabling it and reloaded the module (also rebooted later) |
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| 09:15.06 | xchg | TiCPU: btw, are there anything NIC related in BIOS ? |
| 09:15.11 | mhall | TiCPU: also maybe check bios and disable any overclocked shit |
| 09:15.20 | jm_ | TiCPU: pass debug=7 to the driver |
| 09:15.24 | xchg | some sort of "preformance boosting" or something like that |
| 09:15.26 | TiCPU | mmm I remember I can only disable it and also enable wake on lan |
| 09:15.37 | mhall | xchg: yeah i'll never buy a DFI mobo ever again |
| 09:15.40 | TiCPU | no overclock at the moment ;) |
| 09:15.47 | TiCPU | ok, let me reload the driver |
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| 09:16.03 | mhall | xchg: i did a community service project installing *gasp* xp pro onto one and it bluescreened for weeks |
| 09:16.09 | gbkyle | streuner: any ideas? |
| 09:16.18 | xchg | mhall: hate these performance quirks in bios |
| 09:16.20 | mhall | xchg: stupid dfi used hack performance settings that confused stock drivers |
| 09:16.21 | streuner | no, not about grub... |
| 09:16.23 | TiCPU | omg... I was able to do it without reconnecting ahahah |
| 09:16.26 | gbkyle | ok |
| 09:16.27 | xchg | mhall: since these're marketing fakes |
| 09:16.38 | mhall | xchg: and their load safe defaults shit refused to disable the unsafe shit |
| 09:16.43 | gbkyle | where did nvidia-kernel-source go? |
| 09:16.45 | gbkyle | :\ |
| 09:16.50 | mhall | xchg: fucking conjobbing bastards |
| 09:16.57 | TiCPU | jm_: thanks for that one, got many debug info now |
| 09:17.08 | mhall | xchg: and i won't buy abit again either |
| 09:17.09 | streuner | gbkyle: dpkg -L <package> |
| 09:17.12 | xchg | mhall: nowadays even IBM doing such things |
| 09:17.25 | xchg | mhall: had ibm brand new laptop here with broken ACPI |
| 09:17.34 | gbkyle | im saying in the debian packages |
| 09:17.46 | gbkyle | havent used debian in a while i remember there being a nvidia-kernel |
| 09:17.49 | TiCPU | (maybe too much) |
| 09:17.49 | gbkyle | whatever |
| 09:17.52 | mhall | xchg: cheap sleeve bearing northbridge fan burnt out northbridge and my cpu was running überslow with half-speed clock... couldn't figure out why |
| 09:18.07 | TiCPU | I will try a download now, brb (probably) |
| 09:18.10 | sep | gbkyle, i ususaly use the nvidia one-liner /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 09:18.19 | gbkyle | ty |
| 09:18.20 | mhall | xchg: had to get all new mobo, proc, power supply cause i needed it fixed fast and nobody sells ath xp mobos locally |
| 09:18.30 | jm_ | it's in non-free ... |
| 09:18.32 | khermans | What date was "woody" released? |
| 09:18.33 | mhall | xchg: broken acpi? i can help you there a bit |
| 09:18.42 | jm_ | khermans: Debian web page will tell you or the bot |
| 09:18.43 | streuner | gbkyle: what version of debian do you use? |
| 09:18.48 | xchg | mhall: don't worry, we've sent it back to US |
| 09:18.54 | xchg | mhall: ibm US office |
| 09:19.02 | isorox | july 19 2002 |
| 09:19.05 | streuner | khermans: /msg dpkg woody |
| 09:19.09 | mhall | xchg: yeah i had to do some stuff to get my acer working |
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| 09:19.25 | xchg | mhall: they'll charge our back, since ibm cert. enginers stroked their dicks at that laptop for 3 weeks and could do nothing with it |
| 09:19.27 | gbkyle | 3.1 |
| 09:19.44 | gbkyle | netinstall then i did a dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 09:19.49 | xchg | mhall: so it's hardware bug rather... |
| 09:19.51 | mhall | xchg: bet i could get it to work in a day |
| 09:20.02 | smacky_wolf | Erm, hi all. |
| 09:20.11 | smacky_wolf | I have a question that maybe someone here can resolve |
| 09:20.29 | Toshi | dondelcarlo: it an offline station |
| 09:20.39 | smacky_wolf | Would anyone be kind enough to give me a hand |
| 09:20.47 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:20.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:20.49 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about ask |
| 09:21.02 | xchg | mhall: it wasn't mine, my friend from US residing here right now ordered it. I only had a chance to play with it for couple of hours, until it brought machine to ibm service support |
| 09:21.17 | xchg | mhall: but let's face the fact, hardware nowadays is _shit_ |
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| 09:22.13 | xchg | never will forget that day when i had to re-solder the QFP packaged 128 pin chip on ATX mb |
| 09:22.52 | xchg | becose soldering robot was out of ware to solder it correctly i guess :-) |
| 09:22.56 | mhall | xchg: blecch |
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| 09:23.57 | Toshi | dondelelcaro can you open a private channel ? |
| 09:24.05 | netman1 | Hi All. How do I merge 2 lines in vi? |
| 09:24.18 | streuner | gbkyle: does the error look similar to this one? /msg dpkg udev 2.6.12 |
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| 09:24.40 | jm_ | netman1: J |
| 09:24.51 | netman1 | jm_: Thanks. |
| 09:24.54 | tarzeau | nobody knows what usb device not accepting new address=36 (error=-71) means? |
| 09:24.54 | smacky|FFS | Am I an idiot if I don't understand asl |
| 09:25.00 | smacky|FFS | *ask |
| 09:25.28 | khermans | Debina rules -- you guys rock -- if only Linux had genetalia, well... |
| 09:25.53 | mhall | khermans: don't go there |
| 09:26.02 | thering | hi? |
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| 09:26.16 | sep | smacky_wolf, it just means you wont get answers if all you do it ask about help. you must provide detail about what is wrong and if someone knows they'll answer. |
| 09:26.18 | smacky_wolf | If linux had genitalia, it would be cheating on me >=( |
| 09:26.19 | khermans | mhall, i puprosely left it to your imagination --> http://www.fu-fme.com |
| 09:26.32 | mhall | thering: heh |
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| 09:26.37 | smacky_wolf | Sep: OK, I get it. |
| 09:26.47 | thering | mhall ,heh |
| 09:26.54 | khermans | Debian --> http://www.fu-fme.com/faq.html |
| 09:27.01 | xchg | hm, penguins definitely has genitalia :-) |
| 09:27.09 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about smart questions |
| 09:27.34 | sep | smacky_wolf, reading that should give you the needed skills in how to ask questions in a way that makes it easier to help you |
| 09:27.38 | thering | could I ask a smart question here? |
| 09:27.53 | xchg | bleh |
| 09:28.18 | smacky_wolf | Well then. I am trying to install Debian Sarge 2.6.8 onto an Acer Extensa 2300. I can boot, the first stage of install works fine, but when it comes time to actually boot into my new system, it hangs while detecting USB devices. I have none attached, all it does is try to configure the actual hardware. I can't do anyhting, i can't open a new terminal, or anything at all. |
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| 09:28.54 | chugga | Version: 1.0.4-2sarge5 <- apt cache show mozilla-firefox ....... im using testing. isnt this a bit old for testing? |
| 09:28.57 | smacky_wolf | Any ideas? I have had hangs on UBS beforewith another machine, but usually after a while they just fix themselves. |
| 09:29.01 | mhall | smacky_wolf: i think you can boot with nousb |
| 09:29.12 | mhall | smacky_wolf: try looking through fkey screens |
| 09:29.20 | Toshi | could anybody help me with an apt-get error ? i cant use dpkg because the target system is offline |
| 09:29.22 | smacky_wolf | I tried that, apparantly it didn't work |
| 09:29.28 | xchg | smacky_wolf: it can be solved cardinally if you disable USB in bios |
| 09:29.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: well it's really shitting on your day |
| 09:29.39 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you'll be able to log in |
| 09:29.45 | mhall | xchg: not sure you can on laptops |
| 09:29.56 | mhall | xchg: they are lame about configurability |
| 09:29.59 | xchg | mhall: hm, maybe you're right |
| 09:30.01 | noiesmo | Toshi, whats your error messgae |
| 09:30.08 | gbkyle | streuner: if you're still here.. i got it to boot.. i needed to install udev ;) |
| 09:30.12 | mhall | xchg: i don't want to be |
| 09:30.18 | mhall | xchg: i hope i am wrong |
| 09:30.18 | smacky_wolf | Oh, OK. Will I eventually be able to comfig the USB after first boot? I really would like to use it. |
| 09:30.32 | gbkyle | streuner: oh and grub changed the menu.lst to hda instead of sda |
| 09:30.33 | Toshi | i cant install tetex-* because unmet dependencies |
| 09:30.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: yeah, long term it should work, it does on my aspire 5000 |
| 09:30.43 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you can boot in and take a look what's happening actually |
| 09:30.44 | smacky_wolf | Awesome. |
| 09:30.51 | mhall | smacky_wolf: it's just some glitch |
| 09:30.55 | xchg | smacky_wolf: or just try ctrl-c combination during USB scan |
| 09:30.58 | mhall | smacky_wolf: let me provide a link to try |
| 09:31.13 | smacky_wolf | I tried the ctl+c also. No dice. |
| 09:31.23 | xchg | smacky_wolf: and other terminal ? |
| 09:31.38 | xchg | smacky_wolf: can you switch to another vconsole ? |
| 09:31.38 | noiesmo | !unmet dependencies |
| 09:31.39 | streuner | gbkyle: hm, wired, i thought netinstall install udev by default... |
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| 09:31.42 | smacky_wolf | nope. |
| 09:31.53 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:31.54 | mhall | smacky_wolf: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:32.06 | xchg | these configurators are going worse and worse |
| 09:32.23 | xchg | man should be able to switch console anytime |
| 09:32.26 | Toshi | i already tried the dpkd -r |
| 09:32.29 | gbkyle | the instructions that dpkg gave me to install nvidia one-liner didnt work :| any other suggestions to install nvidia drivers? |
| 09:32.58 | Toshi | noiesmo there seems to be a problem with the tetex-* files |
| 09:32.58 | noiesmo | Toshi, what debian version |
| 09:33.05 | smacky_wolf | Mhall: Thanks muchly :) |
| 09:33.11 | smacky_wolf | And to anyone else also. |
| 09:33.12 | streuner | gbkyle: what didn't work? |
| 09:33.27 | gbkyle | <dpkg> nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 09:33.29 | Toshi | noiiesmo mostly handcrafted |
| 09:33.53 | gbkyle | streuner: module-assistant, error message: Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. |
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| 09:34.01 | xchg | smacky_wolf: try to plug something to usb port and do it over |
| 09:34.18 | smacky_wolf | Yeah, tried that also. |
| 09:34.32 | xchg | but in my oppinion just wrong chipset module is used |
| 09:34.56 | streuner | gbkyle: did you try to install those packages by hand (via apt-get)? |
| 09:35.00 | sep | gbkyle, it would help if you said what part failed in how it failed. you can also use the nvidia howto /msg dpkg nvidia howto |
| 09:35.22 | streuner | gbkyle: try 'apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-setting |
| 09:35.22 | Silent_al | thirst , ya' here? |
| 09:35.36 | Toshi | noiesmo the installation of tetex results in a pre-installation script reports error |
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| 09:35.46 | gbkyle | there is no nvidia-glx package anymore |
| 09:35.46 | mhall | how can i force a package hold on the command line? aptitude hold seems to be ignored by apt-get |
| 09:35.53 | gbkyle | its referred to by another package |
| 09:36.03 | andrewtaylor_ | I installed Debian sarge, on a cheap box with a Riva TNT32MB, I ran XF86Config and setup the card for 1280x1024 @ 60, when I start-x, it's in 800x600 and the only options I have in my WM is 800x600 and 640x480 - Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 09:36.07 | streuner | dpkg info nvidia-glx testing |
| 09:36.09 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-4 (etch), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 9592 kB |
| 09:36.35 | quasisane | mhall: echo 'packagename hold' | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 09:36.50 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:36.51 | sep | gbkyle, did you read the last part of the one-liner, the one about requiering nonfree and contrib sources |
| 09:36.53 | xchg | andrewtaylor_: can TNT work in 1280x1024 ? |
| 09:37.01 | xchg | !calc 1280*1024*2 |
| 09:37.05 | mhall | quasisane: ah sweet |
| 09:37.07 | xchg | hm |
| 09:37.18 | streuner | gbkyle: add non-free/contrib to your sources.list |
| 09:37.21 | rendi | apt-get -y install apache2 phpbb2 mysql-server |
| 09:37.23 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, you need to look at your monitors capablities and set the hor and vert freq range also maybe aim for 1024 x 768 |
| 09:37.27 | rendi | E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes |
| 09:37.29 | rendi | why |
| 09:37.29 | gbkyle | ah, sry. |
| 09:37.30 | rendi | anyone ? |
| 09:37.40 | rendi | hlep |
| 09:37.40 | andrewtaylor_ | why the lower res? |
| 09:38.07 | SlayerXP | rendi: don't use -y then |
| 09:38.08 | mhall | quasisane: thanks |
| 09:38.29 | quasisane | mhall: you're welcome |
| 09:38.31 | sep | andrewtaylor_, becouse your monitor settings claim that's the highest you should use, adjust the refreash rates acording to your monitor spec |
| 09:38.41 | mhall | quasisane: i have used --get-... a lot but never considered set ;-) |
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| 09:38.58 | andrewtaylor_ | My monitor is a 1280x1024 flat panel, it'll look rotten if it's not a native |
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| 09:39.03 | streuner | !hold |
| 09:39.03 | dpkg | [hold] a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect or aptitude. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
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| 09:39.13 | inter | join #debian es |
| 09:39.21 | inter | hola |
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| 09:40.00 | inter | como me conecto con debian es |
| 09:40.07 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, well youll need to find the right refresh rate and h & v sync open console and try xf86config or xf86cfg |
| 09:40.17 | andrewtaylor_ | okay thanks |
| 09:40.24 | Silent_al | inter, /join #debian es |
| 09:40.34 | Guerin | no |
| 09:40.49 | Guerin | don't use xf86config |
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| 09:40.56 | Silent_al | !teel inter about debian es |
| 09:41.07 | Guerin | ask dpkg about set up x and hwinfo |
| 09:41.12 | Silent_al | opps... nm. |
| 09:41.17 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, Guerin says only use xf86cfg |
| 09:41.26 | Guerin | no |
| 09:41.34 | Guerin | guerin says NEVER use xf86config |
| 09:41.38 | Guerin | of xf86cfg |
| 09:41.45 | sep | !drxx |
| 09:41.45 | dpkg | from memory, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 09:41.57 | inter | no asi no |
| 09:42.21 | bobbens | inter: /join #debian-es |
| 09:42.29 | xchg | X -configure usually do the trick |
| 09:42.31 | inter | graccies |
| 09:42.38 | Guerin | goddamnit |
| 09:42.42 | Guerin | this is debian, people |
| 09:42.43 | andrewtaylor_ | thanks |
| 09:42.52 | Guerin | there are tools which work |
| 09:42.57 | Silent_al | !tell inter about spanish |
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| 09:43.08 | Guerin | you don't have to use xf86cfg, X -config and so on |
| 09:43.17 | xchg | Guerin: it's a question of taste |
| 09:43.23 | streuner | no |
| 09:43.33 | Guerin | xchg: it's a question of whether you want to break your config files for debconf |
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| 09:43.37 | streuner | not for people using debian |
| 09:44.03 | xchg | editing configs by hand either prohibited in debian ? ;-) |
| 09:44.09 | xchg | didn't knew |
| 09:44.40 | sep | xchg, ofcourse you can do it that way. but then you have to fix it again yourself when a package upgrades something you didnt think of. and debconf would have kept it ok for you. |
| 09:44.47 | Guerin | xchg: not at all. But some config files are protected, and if you fuck with them, it breaks debconf. |
| 09:44.58 | Guerin | the x config file is one such |
| 09:45.41 | Guerin | where is .hr |
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| 09:45.48 | Guerin | !country codes |
| 09:45.49 | dpkg | Country codes are at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt |
| 09:45.58 | streuner | croatia |
| 09:45.59 | sep | xchg, besides dpkg-reconfigure rocks awsome. you can just enter along to the value you want to change and then just keep enter pressed until it exits. it remembers you previous choises saves you entering every single value all the time. it just rocks |
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| 09:46.06 | prh | can anyone help me recover a dead filesystem? It is ext3 in an LVM2 lv - fsck says "Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/weeblu05/weeblu05-home" to any superblock. ext2resize says "ext2_open: fs has unsupported feature(s) enabled: compat 80008000 ro_compat 80008000 recover incompat 80008004" lde says "Warning: First block (2147516416) != Normal first block (1)" .... any ideas? |
| 09:46.12 | thering | !tell |
| 09:46.15 | gbkyle | streuner / sep : thank you for your help |
| 09:46.17 | cusco | hi! |
| 09:46.27 | Guerin | Hrvatska, right you are |
| 09:46.39 | Guerin | i'll probably be going to coratia :) |
| 09:46.41 | sep | only thing i wish it did better was multihead :) but that's ok |
| 09:46.43 | cusco | when I use cfdisk I don't see the ext3 file system type |
| 09:46.44 | Guerin | bah, and croatia too |
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| 09:46.52 | cusco | how do I format a hard drive to be ext3 |
| 09:46.55 | thering | !tell me about smart questions |
| 09:47.01 | Guerin | cusco: you don't, using cfdisk |
| 09:47.04 | sep | cusco, mkfs -t ext3 /device |
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| 09:47.31 | cusco | oh.. ok.. sep will that format it? |
| 09:47.33 | xchg | sep: there're several things i like to do by hand, several things i let debconf do, everything working just fine. it's a true freedomship |
| 09:47.37 | Guerin | cusco: cfdisk makes partitions. Once you've made a partition, use mkfs.ext3 to put a filesystem on it |
| 09:47.45 | sep | cusco, and /device ofcouse beeing a partitino not a harddrive |
| 09:47.47 | cusco | oh.. heh ok |
| 09:47.53 | cusco | right.. thanks |
| 09:47.54 | xchg | sep: X config is the one of things i like to edit by hand |
| 09:48.18 | sep | xchg, yes. but you shoudnt recomend that to others especialy if you dont know their skill level, and they might not know how to fix debconf |
| 09:48.31 | gbkyle | uh, hrm any idea why when gdm starts.. my monitor looks like shit.. (i can see the nvidia splash screen) but its so dim? |
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| 09:48.53 | Guerin | particularly since you can damage some video hardware if you fuck up a modeline |
| 09:49.07 | Guerin | gbkyle: i blame nvidia |
| 09:49.15 | gbkyle | grr |
| 09:49.22 | sep | Guerin, that was long ago tho. been years since i was able to do that |
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| 09:49.41 | Guerin | sep: but once again, you don't know what hardware you're dealing with |
| 09:49.44 | gbkyle | how can i disable gdm at boot again? |
| 09:49.51 | sep | Guerin, yes very tues :) |
| 09:49.58 | streuner | gbkyle: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 09:50.06 | xchg | sep: there's only problem with question guy asked, i'm completely don't sure that 32MB TNT can address 1280*1024*16/24/32 . X -configure will fetch available modes for the card and create config at _home_ directory. Then he can list it for the available modes |
| 09:50.25 | xchg | sep: so /etc/X11/... isn't affected at this point |
| 09:50.29 | Guerin | xchg: hwinfo does that too |
| 09:50.35 | gbkyle | thanks again |
| 09:50.46 | Guerin | come to thinik of it, so does dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 09:51.45 | tjostolf | gbkyle: and you can do /etc/init.d/gdm -f remove; /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 09:53.39 | gbkyle | Got it. |
| 09:53.52 | CasinoLuv | how to close a window in xserver using a shell script? |
| 09:54.03 | gbkyle | now i just gotta figure out what the fuck is wrong with nvidia and my monitor :\ |
| 09:54.41 | diana | I did apt-get install apache2 mysql-server phpbb2, and they all installed fine..and my web server is up and running...but how do I implement phpbb2 into my site?(I am on testing, with "testing security" like in the topic. |
| 09:54.55 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and make it empty instead of uninstalling |
| 09:54.55 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: you can kill something using its x resource handle using kill? or xkill maybe |
| 09:56.18 | CasinoLuv | Guerin: I would like just to close the window not kill the process directly |
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| 09:56.45 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i think xkill can do that, too. |
| 09:57.02 | bibe | diana : take a look at the output of 'dpkg -L phpbb2', it's possible that it installed an apache2 configuration file for phpbb2 |
| 09:57.10 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i've not used it in an age or three, though, so I may well be wrong. |
| 09:57.22 | jvw | diana: check out /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
| 09:57.26 | jvw | diana: esp README.Debian |
| 09:57.34 | jvw | diana: possibly you want to install mysql-server too |
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| 09:57.41 | jvw | diana: and then phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.22 | melao- | where can I find tips on how to setup a network, distribute configuration files from a server to a couple of clients, etc? |
| 09:58.28 | xchg | CasinoLuv: xwininfo for getting the resource id, then xkill |
| 09:58.36 | SlayerXP | melao-: cfengine will let you do that |
| 09:58.41 | diana | jvw: I did all that. |
| 09:58.46 | deeler | I need the 'rsh' command for debian, but it seems to be the ssh version, where can i find the regular one ? |
| 09:58.50 | diana | I setup mysql with phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.58 | jm_ | deeLer: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:59.00 | diana | jvw: But I'm not sure how to actually add phpbb2 to my website. |
| 09:59.01 | Guerin | diana: which regular version? |
| 09:59.10 | rendi | tes |
| 09:59.10 | Guerin | deeler: which regular version? |
| 09:59.13 | smacky_wolf | Ok, guys. Next time I talk to you, it should be from within Debian :D |
| 09:59.15 | diana | Guerin: I dunno whatever testing uses. |
| 09:59.17 | jvw | diana: that's why there's a README.Debian |
| 09:59.22 | jetscreamer | hwinfo --monitor for the refreshrates gbkyle |
| 09:59.23 | smacky_wolf | Thanks for the help <3 |
| 09:59.24 | Guerin | diana: sorry, that was my bad |
| 09:59.27 | xchg | smacky_wolf: any success ? |
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| 09:59.38 | jvw | diana: you'll need to include the /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf in your apache setup |
| 09:59.38 | Gnea | ugh.. does anyone have, or used, a toshiba satellite 5105-S501 laptop? i already looked it up and what's there is very scant |
| 09:59.44 | CasinoLuv | xchg: but Xkill wont provide any warranty that the app wil end "ok" |
| 09:59.50 | deeLer | like the one in RedHat , doesn't use SSH , but the man says it's just a remote shell , no secure conenctions |
| 10:00.00 | jvw | diana: like add "Include /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf" to /etc/apache(2?)/apache.conf or so |
| 10:00.16 | smacky_wolf | Just finished burning the CD, and am about to rebot |
| 10:00.18 | Guerin | deeLer: wtf would you not want secure connections? |
| 10:00.32 | CasinoLuv | I need a way I can close a window(like clicking on the close button) using a shell script |
| 10:01.02 | deeLer | Guerin, it's on a local network to execute a command on an Axel Platine Terminal |
| 10:01.10 | Gnea | oh geez.... nevermind |
| 10:01.12 | xchg | CasinoLuv: as far as i know it doesn't acts as kill, instead it dealing with xserver forcing him to close the connection |
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| 10:01.28 | deeLer | used to work with Fedora, but on Debian 'rsh' is the SSH version |
| 10:01.50 | Guerin | deeLer: heh. |
| 10:01.52 | xchg | CasinoLuv: and IMHO if the application wrote right (e.g. handling the X signals well), nothing wrong will happen..or..who knows :-) |
| 10:01.58 | deeLer | okay; i did a rsh-client apt-get ... works now |
| 10:02.01 | jvw | deeLer: there *is* real rsh in Debian too, if you really must have it |
| 10:02.01 | deeLer | thanks jm_ |
| 10:02.09 | jvw | deeLer: ah, you found it |
| 10:02.15 | Guerin | deeLer: see if it's configurable, else build the source for your own. Or consider telnet or such. <shudder> |
| 10:02.27 | Guerin | oh |
| 10:02.28 | deeLer | yeah ... now 'rsh' is a real rsh |
| 10:02.30 | Guerin | winnah |
| 10:02.41 | deeLer | wierd that the command names are the same, anyway, it works now |
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| 10:03.08 | melao- | I'm looking for a way to install clients automatically, without the need to answer all the questions dpkg asks, and then update its configuration later based on a single well-configured model client. is that possible? |
| 10:03.26 | jvw | deeLer: that's because a lot of programs use rsh as tunnel, and by having rsh default to ssh if real rsh isn't installed, they all work out of the box... |
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| 10:03.34 | CasinoLuv | xchg: that part of the who knows its what worries me...but I will dig up further into this subject |
| 10:03.39 | jvw | deeLer: like rsync, remote cvs, etc etc |
| 10:03.57 | jetscreamer | melao-: i saw some automated program like what you want in sources but i don't remember the name |
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| 10:04.05 | xchg | CasinoLuv: if you want to close only one type of application you can simple trace back the results |
| 10:04.07 | noiesmo | melao-, i know red hat has kickstart http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html |
| 10:04.26 | deeLer | jvw, thanks for the info |
| 10:04.33 | jm_ | melao-: pre-seeding |
| 10:04.36 | jvw | deeLer: after all, ssh is a sort of 'remote shell', just using a differnet protocol, and it's intended as rsh replacement |
| 10:04.36 | noiesmo | melao-, not sure if debian version |
| 10:04.38 | petemc | melao-: look at phil hands version of d-i |
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| 10:04.58 | raf256 | !rq raf256 |
| 10:05.02 | raf256 | !qod raf256 |
| 10:05.08 | raf256 | hmm... |
| 10:05.11 | raf256 | !qod0 |
| 10:05.20 | thirst | Silent_al: yeah ... me here |
| 10:05.28 | raf256 | damn, how to show mine quotes? |
| 10:05.32 | jetscreamer | quotd? |
| 10:05.55 | jm_ | !qotd131 |
| 10:05.56 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 10:06.13 | xchg | lol :) |
| 10:07.04 | liable | hehe, thats one of my favs. |
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| 10:07.52 | xchg | liable: the best keyboard trainer by the way :-) |
| 10:08.15 | liable | heh |
| 10:08.16 | Silent_al | thirst, do u still want a gaim2 deb pkg? |
| 10:08.37 | diana | jvw: It is telling me it can't connect to the database. |
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| 10:08.45 | MrFaber | hi all |
| 10:08.51 | xchg | hi |
| 10:08.55 | MrFaber | is it possible that many packets are missing in etch? |
| 10:09.05 | MrFaber | Which are in other debian versions? |
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| 10:09.11 | thirst | Silent_al: well i wanted .. until i reaized that it doesn't come in with -vv .. or does it ? |
| 10:09.18 | MrFaber | hi xchg |
| 10:09.24 | chugga | whats -vv? |
| 10:09.24 | noiesmo | diana, you will need to adjust phpbb2 config fill with database mysql info |
| 10:09.25 | jm_ | MrFaber: /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing |
| 10:09.25 | thirst | Silent_al: but give me the link anyway.. |
| 10:09.30 | thirst | chugga: voice and video |
| 10:09.33 | noiesmo | fill =file |
| 10:09.39 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:09.40 | chugga | thirst, ok |
| 10:09.42 | caphuso | ok. where did you get it from? |
| 10:09.46 | diana | jvw: I did "/etc/init.d/mysql start" and the sql server said it started...but when I "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" I get an error when I try to "Create" the user phpbb2 |
| 10:09.55 | MrFaber | Something like vlc k3b and so on |
| 10:10.03 | MrFaber | the help files of this programs are there |
| 10:10.04 | noiesmo | diana, by default mysql user is root with no pasword |
| 10:10.07 | botsy | anybody use mosix ? |
| 10:10.14 | MrFaber | but not the programs themselves |
| 10:10.31 | botsy | i have recompil my kernel and i want to patch my kernel .. |
| 10:10.38 | botsy | with the mosix patch |
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| 10:10.44 | Silent_al | thirst , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=558191 |
| 10:11.02 | botsy | it's not necessary i download kernel source if i have recompil my kernel ? |
| 10:11.05 | noiesmo | diana, look at installing phpmyadmin its a nice web interface for mysql apt-get install phpmyadmin then http://website/phpmyadmin |
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| 10:11.16 | thirst | Silent_al: thanks |
| 10:11.38 | jvw | noiesmo: eh, not if you use phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 10:11.40 | jvw | diana: did you set a root password for mysql? |
| 10:11.41 | traian | hello |
| 10:11.43 | jetscreamer | botsy: if you recompiled your kernel you should already have the source |
| 10:11.50 | jvw | diana: and fill in the exact same password when phpbb2-conf-mysql asked you? |
| 10:11.51 | traian | i have a little problem |
| 10:11.55 | botsy | oky thank jetscreamer |
| 10:12.02 | traian | when i run apt-get update i get this error "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 10:12.03 | traian | " |
| 10:12.03 | noiesmo | jvw, k havent used it sorry |
| 10:12.17 | traian | what should i do about it? |
| 10:12.18 | bobbens | traian: /topic |
| 10:12.25 | Guerin | traian: read the topic |
| 10:12.29 | Guerin | ferchrissakes |
| 10:12.32 | traian | oh |
| 10:12.34 | traian | sorry |
| 10:12.41 | liable | !topicfsck traian |
| 10:12.51 | diana | jvw: I tried to...I did dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql...but I get "Failure: Database not created" |
| 10:13.13 | diana | jvw: It says error when trying to connect to the mysql database. |
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| 10:13.26 | jvw | diana: try whether you can connect yourself with 'mysql' |
| 10:13.35 | jvw | diana: anyway gotta go |
| 10:13.36 | noiesmo | diana, ps ax | grep mysql see if mysql running then |
| 10:13.56 | diana | jvw: I have a prompt with mysql> when I type that. |
| 10:14.22 | diana | mysql 5727 0.0 3.5 117636 16044 pts/0 Sl 05:11 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 10:14.24 | jvw | didn't test it I think, maybe it doesn't work without a root password |
| 10:14.41 | diana | But I can't create a root password because it says it can't connect. |
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| 10:14.51 | jvw | diana: if it turns out that that was indeed the issue, please file a bug, I need to fix it then |
| 10:14.54 | Silent_al | traian, gimme a minute , i'll tell u how to solve this prob |
| 10:15.01 | jvw | diana: you can, you set a mysql root password with mysql |
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| 10:15.04 | jvw | diana: not with phpbb |
| 10:15.08 | traian | ok |
| 10:15.15 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:15.23 | diana | jvw: When I did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it asked me for the root password for mysql. |
| 10:15.27 | xchg | omer_07: what's a problem with it ? |
| 10:15.30 | jvw | hopefully others can help you, otherwise, try forums.debian.net |
| 10:15.40 | hazed | diana: mysqladmin -u root password 'yourpass' will add a password. |
| 10:15.41 | jvw | diana: yes, but you need to *set* one first |
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| 10:16.40 | Shadur | Hmm. Xorg just stopped honoring control-alt-f1, and I'm not sure what I broke. |
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| 10:17.04 | diana | jvw: I typed as root in bash "mysqladmin -u root password mypassword" |
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| 10:17.17 | diana | jvw: Then I did /etc/init.d/mysql restart" and it still doesn't work... |
| 10:17.21 | omer_07 | xchg : i can see it on usb, i add printer, system recognizes printer but i couldn't get paper from printer. i can see document in kjobviewer, after -10 second it says aborted. How can i solve this? |
| 10:17.24 | diana | phpBB : Critical Error |
| 10:17.26 | diana | Could not connect to the database |
| 10:17.47 | Guerin | diana: read the documentation |
| 10:18.00 | Guerin | diana: really, this isn't so complicated you need someone to hold your hand through it |
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| 10:18.16 | Guerin | diana: or, if it is, you need to consider hiring an admin |
| 10:18.33 | xchg | omer_07: did you read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 ? |
| 10:19.35 | deeLer | does the recently updated debian r1 install cd contains more hardware support ? or is it just security updates? |
| 10:19.47 | Silent_al | traian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary |
| 10:19.56 | noiesmo | diana, my suggestion and way of setting up mysql is to apt-get install phpmyadmin then open web browser http://yoursitename.blah/phpmyadmin then try access via user root no password if it says you are using password then enter in any password you may have set for it this will at least confim your mysql server |
| 10:20.13 | diana | cool it works |
| 10:20.28 | diana | Once I made the root password, then did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it worked. |
| 10:20.38 | diana | But I had to manually make the root password with mysql. |
| 10:20.47 | Guerin | amazingly |
| 10:20.57 | MrFaber | Is anyone useing etch? |
| 10:20.57 | jetscreamer | hmmm phpbb doesn't like insecurity? |
| 10:21.03 | omer_07 | xchg: thanks. i will read now |
| 10:21.19 | hazed | diana: Yea, you have to manually set the root password for mysql, debconf usually tells you this :P |
| 10:21.20 | Guerin | !anyone use etch? |
| 10:21.20 | dpkg | No, no one uses etch, not even the people who use it. |
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| 10:21.40 | Silent_al | !heh |
| 10:21.40 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
| 10:21.43 | jetscreamer | i used the etch beta installer no idea about your question |
| 10:22.28 | Silent_al | !i uses etch |
| 10:22.32 | Silent_al | :) |
| 10:22.43 | Silent_al | MrFaber, me |
| 10:22.46 | traian | Silent_al, thx |
| 10:22.53 | Silent_al | traian, np :) |
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| 10:23.02 | MrFaber | Silent_al: thanks, do you find vlc in your repository? |
| 10:23.04 | MrFaber | or k3b |
| 10:23.09 | MrFaber | or vnc4 |
| 10:23.32 | Silent_al | yup |
| 10:23.49 | MrFaber | hm, can you private message the standard part of your sources.list? |
| 10:23.50 | Silent_al | try search for it at : www.apt-get.org |
| 10:24.00 | MrFaber | I mean apt-cache search ... |
| 10:24.28 | chugga | etch my sketch |
| 10:25.06 | MrFaber | I don't want extra repositories and the funny thing is that there is a videolan help file in rep but not program |
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| 10:25.38 | sar4er | witam |
| 10:26.52 | diana | jvm: "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." |
| 10:27.01 | diana | jvw: Do I just go to login and login... root and my password? |
| 10:27.03 | diana | Or what is the username. |
| 10:27.07 | diana | administrator? |
| 10:27.51 | Guerin | !rtfm diana |
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| 10:29.30 | Gnea | UGH, dpkg will NOT let me downgrade my nvidia |
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| 10:30.03 | maxxle | h |
| 10:30.19 | jetscreamer | uninstall it first? |
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| 10:30.52 | Gnea | that's what i did too |
| 10:30.57 | Gnea | i'll try again |
| 10:31.04 | jetscreamer | was just a though |
| 10:31.05 | jetscreamer | t |
| 10:31.22 | Gnea | well i just upgraded it so who knows |
| 10:31.27 | Gnea | heh, even the modem works now |
| 10:31.32 | jetscreamer | me, i can't uninstall 2.6.14-2-k7 |
| 10:31.33 | Gnea | using alsa |
| 10:31.45 | Gnea | you're not booted into it? |
| 10:31.49 | jetscreamer | no |
| 10:32.35 | Trewas | I guess debian does not have highmem enabled kernels available? I just installed debian (etch) to a computer with 2GB of memory, and everything else is working perfectly except for missing half of the memory... |
| 10:32.54 | Gnea | Trewas: you'll need to compile your own |
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| 10:33.08 | djp | what should i set my network connection to under totem preferences? i have a 2mb adsl connection. should i use 512kbps dsl/cable or 1.5mbps t1/intranet/lan? i want to listen to internet radio... |
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| 10:33.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: yes it is enabled in stock kernels by default iirc... 4gb is what i remember seeing it set at |
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| 10:33.40 | TiCPU | seems like having acpi=off noapic in my kernel command line solved my network card problem, any downside ? |
| 10:33.58 | sep | Trewas, i have 2Gb and see everything with a stock 2.6.14 686-smp from etch |
| 10:34.12 | redguy|work | Trewas: it is enabled in -snm kernels |
| 10:34.18 | redguy|work | -smp |
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| 10:35.12 | Gnea | that's retarded, there should be a 4gig enabled uni kernel |
| 10:35.21 | diana | Guerin: What is the login... root/Admin/admin/Adminstrator/administrator? |
| 10:35.23 | Trewas | at least with linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 which was installed by default there is only ~900MB memory |
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| 10:35.37 | luliana | ive troubles with the installation of java plug-ins |
| 10:35.47 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.53 | diana | Guerin: phpbb2 as my username? |
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| 10:36.24 | Gnea | !java-package |
| 10:36.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 10:36.25 | Trewas | but maybe I should try some never one (or 686/k7 version) in case they have it enabled, I'd rather not go with -smp kernel since there is only one processor |
| 10:36.51 | jetscreamer | 'could' be a function of the -386 kernel... try a better maybe |
| 10:37.14 | jetscreamer | oh and doesn't matter if you run an smp enabled kernel on a single proc box |
| 10:37.21 | luliana | ive downloaded a .bin file |
| 10:37.29 | luliana | so... i can delete it |
| 10:37.43 | jetscreamer | you downloaded so you can delete it... |
| 10:37.44 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 10:37.50 | Trewas | jetscreamer: isn't there some performance hit with smp-kernel? |
| 10:37.53 | luliana | i mean... |
| 10:38.03 | luliana | is it usable? |
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| 10:38.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: let me rephrase: i've seen ppl i respect say it doesn't matter.. i personally have no idea |
| 10:38.29 | jetscreamer | Trewas: but no not that i've heard |
| 10:38.40 | jetscreamer | go with the 686 or the k7 though |
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| 10:38.52 | jetscreamer | you probably don't need to go with the smp |
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| 10:39.24 | Trewas | I'll try those... |
| 10:39.40 | yosef | How do I know if my swap is working? gnome resource meter shows it at 0% |
| 10:39.43 | muttix | luliana, yes ! |
| 10:39.51 | jetscreamer | yosef: swapon -c |
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| 10:40.12 | luliana | muttix... yes what?!?! i getting a little bit confused |
| 10:40.23 | jetscreamer | Trewas: afaicr, every -k7 kernel in the past 3 or 4 versions have had the highmem set at 4gb by default |
| 10:40.38 | muttix | luliana, you downloaded a .bin |
| 10:40.41 | luliana | yes |
| 10:40.42 | yosef | jetscreamer: answer "invalid option" |
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| 10:41.01 | yosef | jetscreamer: swapon -s ? |
| 10:41.02 | muttix | luliana, name of file is ? |
| 10:41.05 | sep | yosef, cat /proc/swaps |
| 10:41.06 | jetscreamer | err.. yousef -s |
| 10:41.10 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 10:41.52 | rendi | help |
| 10:41.59 | luliana | muttix : jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:42.03 | rendi | i'm forgote mysql root password |
| 10:42.12 | muttix | luliana, 2.sec |
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| 10:42.50 | muttix | luliana, this is one way to do it http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 10:42.55 | yosef | OK I get Filename = "..." | Type = file | Size = 1126392 | Used = 12532 | Priority = -1| Does this mean it's set up right? |
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| 10:43.08 | luliana | thanks a lot |
| 10:43.14 | luliana | ill try to... |
| 10:43.20 | xchg | rendi: stop mysql |
| 10:43.27 | jetscreamer | it means it's on, yosef ... |
| 10:43.31 | jetscreamer | mounted |
| 10:43.36 | sep | rendi http://news.postnuke.com/Article1273.html |
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| 10:43.40 | xchg | rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:44.05 | xchg | rendi: or mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:44.31 | rendi | <xchg> rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & <== after this how to change the forgot one |
| 10:44.40 | xchg | raden: log to mysql |
| 10:44.42 | _joey | I have an off-topic question: What is so special about usenet? I can many providers from US selling personal and corporate accounts to access usenet |
| 10:44.45 | muttix | luliana, or do this ;) chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin -> su -> mkdir /usr/jave -> cd /usr/java -> su root -> ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:44.48 | xchg | raden: USE mysql; |
| 10:45.13 | sep | would it be possible to use the debian-sys-maint users defined in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to alter root's password perhaps ? someone knows |
| 10:45.14 | jetscreamer | it's not as policed as the intarweb i 'think' _joey |
| 10:45.15 | xchg | raden: update user set password=password("new password") where user='root'; |
| 10:45.15 | RichiH | hmm, i am having problems with iwcofig, orinoco cards & kernels 2.6.14/15 -- i am unable to give iwconfig any options, it always complains about that feature not bein supported |
| 10:45.17 | jetscreamer | for one |
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| 10:45.25 | rendi | not raden rendi :P |
| 10:45.27 | RichiH | is there sth to replace iwconfig or what do i do? |
| 10:45.34 | _joey | jetscreamer intarweb ? :) |
| 10:45.41 | xchg | rendi: sorry, fscked completion :-) |
| 10:45.43 | jetscreamer | internet |
| 10:45.46 | jetscreamer | http |
| 10:45.47 | muttix | luliana, i forgot : mv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java |
| 10:45.51 | xchg | rendi: flush privileges; |
| 10:45.52 | _joey | sure, there should be something on this usent that attracts so many people |
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| 10:45.58 | _joey | jetscreamer: I see |
| 10:46.07 | xchg | rendi: killall mysqld and then start is as usually |
| 10:46.13 | xchg | rendi: old trick :-) |
| 10:46.14 | jetscreamer | _joey: nntp i think... news |
| 10:46.24 | botsy | the patch for mosix and openmosix it's the same thing ? |
| 10:46.29 | jetscreamer | alt.binaries.whatever |
| 10:46.42 | _joey | jetscreamer: 999 |
| 10:46.43 | _joey | RemarQ Expands network to more than 1,000 Web sites and ISPs Raises $20 million in equity funding from Attractor Investment Management, |
| 10:46.50 | jm_ | _joey: most of those provide binary groups, where you can download all sorts of things |
| 10:46.51 | _joey | http://www.supernews.com/compinfo.html |
| 10:46.58 | Trewas | jetscreamer: all 2GB of memory works with linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7, luxury :) |
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| 10:47.19 | jetscreamer | i want to own uu.net |
| 10:47.40 | epsilon | go ahead |
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| 10:48.35 | jetscreamer | i wonder what would take more cash to own... uunet or msft |
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| 10:48.48 | yosef | jetscreamer: So how come it's not being used? |
| 10:48.56 | _joey | jm_ one ISP in our town is setting up usenet access to their customers by peering directly with supernews network. |
| 10:49.01 | jetscreamer | yosef: it doesn't need any? |
| 10:49.08 | _joey | People are talking about it like it's abig thing that's coming |
| 10:49.21 | jetscreamer | yosef: not sure, but i think that's why |
| 10:49.27 | jetscreamer | it's not like that other os |
| 10:49.55 | yosef | jetscreamer: my memory is being 100% used, but the swap 0.5%, make sense? |
| 10:49.58 | Gnea | ok, i think i found the problem |
| 10:50.13 | chugga | yosef, in that case maybe you should have a rest |
| 10:50.17 | Gnea | jetscreamer: m-a (module assistant) is crap, or i'm not reading the manpage right |
| 10:50.25 | yosef | chugga: a rest? |
| 10:50.27 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes, because linux kernel uses all free memory, but frees it up when needed.. do 'free' |
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| 10:51.04 | jetscreamer | buffers+cache == true free mem |
| 10:51.10 | jetscreamer | or so |
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| 10:52.01 | liable | nice, a linux dvd backupperer like dvd shrink. |
| 10:52.05 | yosef | jetscreamer: so linux is using 45% of my mem, and 0.5% of my swap, does this make sense? |
| 10:52.13 | Gnea | i can apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source=1.0.7676-2 nvidia-glx-dev=1.0.7676-2 but when i run m-a a-i nvidia it goes to download the latest |
| 10:52.14 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes |
| 10:52.20 | xchg | yosef: no, same here |
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| 10:52.33 | yosef | xchg: no? |
| 10:52.35 | Gnea | stupid module assistant |
| 10:52.38 | chugga | will etch minimal install only the minimal stuff you need to get going? no webservers etc? |
| 10:52.41 | jetscreamer | Gnea: i use the nvidia installer :o shhh don't tell anybody |
| 10:52.56 | jetscreamer | chugga: yes you have to tell it to install stuff |
| 10:52.59 | yosef | So why do I need swap? |
| 10:53.01 | Gnea | jetscreamer: i'm trying to use an older nvidia module the debian way |
| 10:53.07 | chugga | jelly-away, oh good |
| 10:53.09 | xchg | yosef: kernel tries to (re)use as much RAM as possible, swapping is rare |
| 10:53.16 | Jake | the latest version of postgres in sarges apt-get's thingo is only 7, if i want too install 8 .. whats my best path?? ie surely just downloading and installing manually without notifying apt is discouraged |
| 10:53.21 | Gnea | !swap |
| 10:53.21 | dpkg | well, swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 10:53.22 | jetscreamer | yosef: i didn't have any swap for a couple months |
| 10:53.34 | jetscreamer | you don't 'have' to have it, but it's nice to have if you do |
| 10:53.44 | yosef | why? because swap is slower? |
| 10:53.56 | Gnea | no, because your system could hardlock without it |
| 10:54.00 | xchg | yosef: when something large will be loaded, the unused portion will be dropped to swap device and the new stuff will substitute the freed memory |
| 10:54.29 | chugga | i have a swap partition. but i dont htink its being used. how cna i check? |
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| 10:54.41 | yosef | thanks a million xchg and jetscreamer... that was real helpful. |
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| 10:54.59 | xchg | yosef: you're welcome :-) |
| 10:55.07 | verso | hi guyz, i need ad information.. |
| 10:55.18 | verso | which mirror can i use to find gnome-core? |
| 10:55.25 | rootmos | is it possible to use ndiswrapper during an installtion? |
| 10:55.34 | verso | is there some how-to to install it? |
| 10:56.10 | epsilon | any mirror should have it |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | # mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | [1] 18719 |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | kapolri:/home/admin# 060112 17:55:42 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '-%' |
| 10:56.47 | verso | epsilon: so why can't i find it? sorry.. i'm noob a lot!! |
| 10:56.56 | xchg | rendi: then try mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:57.01 | pngwn | verso, apt-cache search gnome-core |
| 10:57.05 | epsilon | verso: nothing on "apt-cache search gnome-core"? |
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| 10:57.30 | deadline | what is the 'common' php package to have it available in apache2 ? |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | 060112 17:57:11 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43736 |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | mysqld: ready for connections. |
| 10:57.32 | rendi | and ?? |
| 10:57.35 | verso | sorry guyz.. what is apt-cache ? is just aptitude? |
| 10:57.39 | xchg | rendi: great |
| 10:57.42 | Jake | if i install postgres8 onto my system manually, is there something i need to tell apt? ie so it knows it exists? |
| 10:57.54 | rendi | ? it's error ? |
| 10:57.55 | xchg | rendi: now do mysql |
| 10:58.05 | epsilon | verso: man apt-cache |
| 10:58.07 | rendi | type mysql ? |
| 10:58.12 | xchg | rendi: yes |
| 10:58.13 | chugga | is there a way of checking if i have swap enabled? |
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| 10:58.21 | rendi | mysql |
| 10:58.25 | rendi | blank line |
| 10:58.26 | rendi | and |
| 10:58.26 | epsilon | read the manual and learn for the life |
| 10:58.32 | xchg | rendi: and type USE mysql; |
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| 10:58.44 | epsilon | chugga: free? |
| 10:58.48 | rendi | blank again and ? |
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| 10:59.16 | xchg | rendi: DESCRIBE mysql; - does it say something ? |
| 10:59.23 | chugga | epsilon, oh i see. so it seems it is being used |
| 10:59.24 | chugga | :) |
| 10:59.38 | pngwn | verso, http://debian.org/doc |
| 10:59.41 | rendi | ya don't say anything |
| 10:59.44 | rendi | blank |
| 10:59.56 | verso | pngwn: thank you.. i'll read it!!! :) |
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| 11:00.54 | xchg | rendi: then i just don't know what's happening there. you can give me an aceess and i'll fix it for you if you want, but it's quite unsecure :-) |
| 11:01.11 | rendi | blah |
| 11:01.19 | xchg | better idea |
| 11:01.21 | xchg | http://www.netadmintools.com/art90.html |
| 11:01.27 | xchg | read this fine manual :-) |
| 11:01.43 | rendi | ok |
| 11:02.01 | jetscreamer | verso: it's kind of a way to search for packages |
| 11:02.13 | jetscreamer | if not other things i don't know about |
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| 11:03.24 | jetscreamer | but apt-get install gnome-core should function |
| 11:03.48 | jetscreamer | or aptitude install gnome-core maybe (but i don't know how to use aptitude) |
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| 11:09.33 | rambo3 | dselect |
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| 11:09.46 | jetscreamer | rambo3++ |
| 11:10.12 | rambo3 | i just can figure how someone would put that on instal cd |
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| 11:11.16 | jetscreamer | i can't figure out why anybody would make aptitude instead of making dselect more pretty and enduser friendly |
| 11:11.30 | jetscreamer | but there's lots of wheels out there |
| 11:13.19 | boxy | jetscreamer, just run aptitude without any arugs |
| 11:15.20 | dusty- | How do I setup sound in debian? |
| 11:16.12 | muttix | install alsa-base and the you run alsaconf |
| 11:16.16 | xchg | dusty-: you want use ALSA or OSS ? |
| 11:16.28 | deadline | mdadm has to be added to the boot runlevel right? |
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| 11:17.45 | fireba11 | anyone knows a tool to monitor HD usage like top does for CPU and memory ? |
| 11:19.11 | _joey | could someone recommend news reader to download |
| 11:19.28 | _joey | I need it to be console based and suitable for downloading binaries :) |
| 11:19.32 | rambo3 | i fixed serial cable link , now what , where do i find shared folders . |
| 11:19.36 | xchg | _joey: slrn |
| 11:19.45 | xchg | _joey: the best & must have :-)) |
| 11:19.50 | epsilon | fireba11: gkrellm? |
| 11:19.59 | dusty- | xchg, Which do you recommend? |
| 11:20.11 | jetscreamer | boxy: i forgot to mention how much i don't like aptitude :/ |
| 11:20.25 | xchg | dusty-: i would like recommend alsa |
| 11:20.37 | jetscreamer | even i finally am an alsa convert |
| 11:20.48 | dusty- | xchg, Ok, then alsa it is :) |
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| 11:21.07 | xchg | dusty-: oss is pretty old architecture for now IMHO |
| 11:21.11 | xchg | (but stable :-) |
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| 11:21.24 | ootput | there's always alsa-oss |
| 11:21.24 | dusty- | xchg, Ahh I see. |
| 11:21.26 | ootput | :) |
| 11:21.29 | ootput | or aoss |
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| 11:21.37 | dusty- | xchg, How would I configure sound using Alsa then? |
| 11:21.45 | jm_ | fireba11: gkrellm |
| 11:21.45 | xchg | dusty-: just run alsaconf |
| 11:21.51 | jetscreamer | alsaconf is in alsa-base |
| 11:21.55 | jetscreamer | or alsabase |
| 11:21.57 | dusty- | thankyou |
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| 11:22.01 | xchg | dusty-: it will do all the work for you in 99% of cases |
| 11:22.24 | dusty- | thanks alot. |
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| 11:22.32 | xchg | you're welcome :-) |
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| 11:23.45 | fireba11 | jm_ will have a look, thanks |
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| 11:25.00 | fireba11 | jm_ no good ... need sonething for headless server, so no window manager present |
| 11:25.06 | jm_ | fireba11: iostat should also help |
| 11:25.14 | jm_ | fireba11: you can use gkrellm for that too |
| 11:26.45 | incorrect | i was using a tool that gave me a view of the system usage, can't think what it was called |
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| 11:27.05 | fireba11 | jm_ okay .. *researching* |
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| 11:27.47 | Gnea | ok, bug report submitted. |
| 11:27.59 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 11:28.29 | Gnea | !dbugs #343186 |
| 11:28.32 | dpkg | #343186:[nvidia-kernel-source] nvidia-kernel-source 8174 Fails to load proper with 2.6.1[234]; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:03:08 UTC |
| 11:28.32 | jetscreamer | hey what's the name of the program that makes a hash of your password so you can put it in a text conf file |
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| 11:28.53 | Gnea | htpasswd? |
| 11:28.59 | mo1991 | what is a good tracert program for debian - |
| 11:29.02 | twb | I'm making a package that needs to know little/big endianness and 32/64 bitness. How can I test for these in debian/rules? |
| 11:29.06 | Gnea | traceroute |
| 11:29.15 | jetscreamer | no just for mail not apache.. or was that an answer |
| 11:29.36 | Gnea | jetscreamer: it has multiple uses |
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| 11:29.50 | Gnea | if the hash is what you're after then htpasswd can provide it |
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| 11:30.55 | jetscreamer | it's in the apache2-utils... |
| 11:31.11 | jetscreamer | !depends apache2-utils |
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| 11:31.59 | jetscreamer | there was another i used once a year ago i think |
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| 11:32.24 | jm_ | mkpasswd, or perl -e ... or ... |
| 11:33.10 | dpkg | apache2-utils: depends on libapr0 (>= 2.0.55), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdb4.3 (>= 4.3.28-1), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1), libpcre3 (>= 4.5), libssl0.9.8, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
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| 11:35.07 | fooz | modeling hands is hard |
| 11:35.12 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
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| 11:38.10 | dvm1981 | it's the ATI i would like to get working and not the NVidea |
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| 11:38.23 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 11:38.23 | Gnea | bam |
| 11:38.23 | xchg | blah |
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| 11:38.24 | xchg | dvm1981: have ati working here. what's the prob ? |
| 11:38.37 | sussudio | fucketyfuck |
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| 11:38.46 | ootput | netsplit? |
| 11:38.52 | xchg | dvm1981: 9650, xorg 6.9 |
| 11:38.59 | dvm1981 | xchg: it work not right, the 3D are not one i have see |
| 11:39.14 | dvm1981 | xchg: 9600SE Xfree (Stqble) |
| 11:39.22 | x-x- | anyone has composite enabled? i'm wondering if the syncs(v+h) are required for composite to work correctly |
| 11:39.31 | xchg | dvm1981: wait a moment, i'll pastebin my config |
| 11:39.42 | dvm1981 | xchg: :-0 |
| 11:39.46 | bobbens | xchg: you using the r300 driver? |
| 11:39.51 | deadline | does anybody know why apache2 doesnt have a DocumentRoot entry in apache2.conf ? |
| 11:39.55 | dvm1981 | xchg: txh :-) |
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| 11:39.58 | bibe | xchg : is 9650 based on chip RV350 |
| 11:39.59 | bibe | ? |
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| 11:40.15 | x-x- | deadline: look close, it might be linked to another include file |
| 11:40.21 | x-x- | *closer |
| 11:40.25 | bibe | deadline : it's set in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, I guess |
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| 11:40.31 | krystalino | how to install MrProject ? |
| 11:40.33 | x-x- | yea |
| 11:40.37 | x-x- | i think so too |
| 11:40.40 | deadline | cant i just declare it in apache2.conf ? |
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| 11:40.46 | [EaK|HC]Konky | how can i access a usb storage device when i just know the hotplug variables (DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/002/026) |
| 11:40.58 | bibe | krystalino : apt-get install mrproject? |
| 11:41.23 | bibe | deadline : you can have multiple virtual hosts, each pointing to different DocumentRoot locations |
| 11:41.26 | krystalino | bibe, i don't find it :/ wich repo do you have ? |
| 11:41.27 | [EaK|HC]Konky | Anyone ? |
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| 11:41.30 | dvm1981 | It's really nice here, but first i drink my cup of coffe while i see you here :-) |
| 11:41.37 | [EaK|HC]Konky | it looks like the 2.4 kernel is not able to do that |
| 11:41.45 | bibe | krystalino : sarge |
| 11:41.46 | [EaK|HC]Konky | it just assigns a scsi device "blind" |
| 11:41.59 | xchg | dvm1981: http://pastebin.com/502214 |
| 11:41.59 | jm_ | [EaK|HC]Konky: so? |
| 11:42.07 | xchg | dvm1981: but erm..nothing special here as i found |
| 11:42.08 | krystalino | bibe, ok. Do you see it on sarge ? |
| 11:42.16 | dvm1981 | xchg: :-) Really thankx |
| 11:42.21 | [EaK|HC]Konky | so i search for anyone who had experience with that and might know something |
| 11:42.23 | xchg | dvm1981: also don't forget to modprobe agpgart before startx |
| 11:42.30 | bibe | yes, it's in sarge main |
| 11:42.37 | jm_ | the device appears in logs, then there's /proc/partitions |
| 11:42.38 | dvm1981 | xchg: I work on it now ;-) |
| 11:42.46 | dvm1981 | xchg: That i not know |
| 11:42.56 | [EaK|HC]Konky | ok : but i already got 2 usb sticks inserted |
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| 11:43.03 | [EaK|HC]Konky | i insert a 3rd stick, and now need to know where it is |
| 11:43.03 | fantomas | Where to get latest firefox for sarge? |
| 11:43.07 | dvm1981 | xchg: If that whas my previous problem ? |
| 11:43.09 | xaxes|free | @work :P |
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| 11:43.14 | bibe | fantomas : www.backports.org |
| 11:43.16 | jm_ | that doesn't change what I said |
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| 11:43.18 | [EaK|HC]Konky | sda-sdf |
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| 11:43.20 | xchg | the interesting thing - my ati, including the 3d worked directly out-of-box |
| 11:43.23 | botsy | any body know what's the package content libproc_la-devname.lo ? |
| 11:43.25 | [EaK|HC]Konky | yes, but it does not help |
| 11:43.32 | [EaK|HC]Konky | proc partitions just lists the known partitions |
| 11:43.38 | jm_ | "just" ... |
| 11:43.47 | xchg | 1287 FPS or what on glxgears |
| 11:43.48 | [EaK|HC]Konky | but there is no connections between DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/002/026 and scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 |
| 11:43.56 | bobbens | xchg: what resolution and depth are you using? |
| 11:44.03 | jm_ | eww devfs |
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| 11:44.23 | bibe | krystalino : apt-cache show mrproject says : Since version 0.11, Mr.Project is developped by Imendio and called Planner |
| 11:44.27 | fantomas | bibe: thanks |
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| 11:44.43 | warhead | I have ftp backup server, I need stat by ip upload |
| 11:44.44 | bibe | fantomas : no problem |
| 11:44.55 | warhead | Any bandwidth by ip? |
| 11:45.25 | jm_ | tools like iptraf, darkstat, ntop can help you with that |
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| 11:45.48 | jm_ | or even jnettop |
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| 11:46.22 | krystalino | bibe, ok, thank you :) |
| 11:46.57 | warhead | jm_ > iptraf after 24h in background eat my memory, darkstat don't register all ip adress, ntop don't have stat for example stat of month or day |
| 11:47.11 | dvm1981 | To automatically load modules ? Where to change the config file ? for 'modprobe agpart' in '/etc/modules.conf' ? Adding a line (agpgart)to this file ? |
| 11:47.18 | xchg | bobbens: 1280*1024*24bit |
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| 11:47.32 | jm_ | warhead: you can use IP accounting for usch purposes |
| 11:47.40 | jm_ | dvm1981: man modules |
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| 11:47.43 | bobbens | xchg: really? i'm having problems getting 3d to work at that resolution... if it works for you it should for me, gonna keep trying |
| 11:47.55 | xchg | dvm1981: just add agpgart to /etc/modules |
| 11:48.07 | dvm1981 | jm_: found |
| 11:48.19 | warhead | jm_ any package for ip accounting ?!?!? |
| 11:48.24 | xchg | bobbens: the only thing i found in 3d quirking - is not to overusing driver-shipped options in config |
| 11:48.36 | warhead | jm_ name of program for ip accouting? |
| 11:48.41 | xchg | bobbens: lesser options defined - more stable it will work :-) |
| 11:48.43 | jm_ | warhead: not that I know, you do it by adding iptables rules, but then you have to do whatever you want with the counters |
| 11:48.44 | jetscreamer | thanks jm_ btw |
| 11:48.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx for the confirmation, having some doubts |
| 11:48.57 | bobbens | xchg: could be :), i have all the options defined almost |
| 11:49.37 | xchg | bobbens: i have _none_ of them :-) |
| 11:49.51 | bibe | warhead : 'apt-cache search ip accounting' shows "net-acct - User-mode IP accounting daemon" |
| 11:50.04 | bobbens | xchg: yeah i saw, you even just use ati as the driver... gonna try imitating your config see how it works :) |
| 11:50.12 | warhead | jm_ > My bandwith is too high,I need seek what is problem. |
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| 11:50.29 | xchg | bobbens: you can also try that "Proprietary ATI driver" shit from ATI |
| 11:50.36 | xchg | but i couldn't get it to work |
| 11:50.38 | bobbens | xchg: but does defining two devices actually work? I find that with one alone it works |
| 11:50.47 | bobbens | xchg: bah i dont want kernel tainting trash |
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| 11:51.35 | xchg | bobbens: didn't tried ever, just wrote the second head by hand |
| 11:51.35 | xchg | bobbens: currently i have no need for the second/third head |
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| 11:52.07 | jm_ | warhead: if it's about FTP then try to use a FTP daemon that can log transfers, i.e. vsftpd has such option |
| 11:52.34 | smo_ | hi, how can i do to test if /dev/seq for exmple exist , in a bash script to get a usable return ? |
| 11:52.35 | bobbens | xchg: well off to try it |
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| 11:53.36 | jm_ | smo_: the fact that the file is there doesn't mean it will work |
| 11:53.49 | smo_ | yeah |
| 11:53.57 | smo_ | just o know if it exist or not |
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| 11:54.07 | jm_ | man test |
| 11:54.15 | smo_ | k |
| 11:54.18 | dvm1981 | xchg: I waiting that some things has done in the my virtual pc, so that i can reboot and test. Thx ;-) |
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| 11:54.39 | mo1991 | is there a traceroute program that will actually trace a route on a map - I used to have one for windows? |
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| 11:55.32 | nerdy2 | trace a route on a map? |
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| 11:55.59 | jetscreamer | one of the general alternate ports for smtp, if your isp is blocking 25, is 587 is it not? |
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| 11:56.08 | nerdy2 | you mean you want to translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result? |
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| 11:56.35 | nerdy2 | (or you could just get them to unblock 25 :)) |
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| 11:58.10 | xchg | dvm1981: you're welcome :-) |
| 11:58.23 | nerdy2 | but ya 587 is the "message submission" port (rfc 2476) |
| 11:58.25 | dvm1981 | xchg: yhx :-) |
| 11:58.33 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx :-) |
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| 11:59.10 | qweo | hi |
| 11:59.20 | bobbens | xchg: you're right, works alot better without advanced options, going to try different tests to see if it works, i heard pageflipping gives a nice fps boost |
| 11:59.21 | EdLin | nerdy2: gmail can use 587 |
| 11:59.41 | EdLin | nerdy2: also gmail never uses 22, because they use TLS |
| 11:59.49 | EdLin | nerdy2: er, 25 |
| 11:59.58 | xchg | bobbens: now you can try to enable options one by one, and at the end you'll find the option broking everythin |
| 11:59.58 | dusty- | hrm why doesn't scp file.tgz dusty@192.168.0.4:/home/dusty work? |
| 12:00.06 | xchg | nah, gotta eat something |
| 12:00.11 | qweo | can anybody give URL where i can download Debian SID ISO (for amd64 or x86)? |
| 12:00.13 | nerdy2 | EdLin, you can use TLS on 25 ?? |
| 12:00.19 | EdLin | nerdy2: no |
| 12:00.27 | qweo | (not jigdo) |
| 12:00.28 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - yes I was looking to turn the traceroute output to geographical locatiosns |
| 12:00.29 | bobbens | xchg: yup, thanks alot :) |
| 12:00.29 | EdLin | nerdy2: read what I said again |
| 12:01.09 | sep | !does not work |
| 12:01.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 12:01.20 | EdLin | qweo: there are no sid ISOs |
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| 12:01.27 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - yes translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result |
| 12:01.47 | cusco | hi! I have had a problem while trying to install qmail.. something is wrong with my hosts |
| 12:02.08 | cusco | Your hostname is velhadas. ; hard error ; Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS. ; You will have to set up /var/qmail/control/me yourself. |
| 12:02.24 | ttick | anyone know how to resolve this apt-get update error: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 12:02.35 | EdLin | ttick: /topic |
| 12:02.43 | jm_ | ttick: yes many people can, especially those that read the topic |
| 12:02.53 | nerdy2 | EdLin, i read what you said, you said they never use 25, "because they use TLS", and i said that TLS & using port 25 are not incompatible |
| 12:02.59 | ttick | okay, I asked dpkg first, and he didn't know about it. thanks |
| 12:03.19 | EdLin | nerdy2: well, in theory you could put it on 25. But that would be non-standard |
| 12:03.25 | nerdy2 | EdLin, no it wouldn't |
| 12:03.26 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - do you know of a program that does this - translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result |
| 12:03.36 | nerdy2 | EdLin, maybe you mean smtp&ssl |
| 12:03.38 | mo1991 | or not even map the result |
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| 12:03.58 | jm_ | mo1991: geoip-bin can help with translation of hops |
| 12:04.00 | mo1991 | it should be able to do this by ip range correct |
| 12:04.27 | jetscreamer | is overwriting custom config files a serious violation of debian policy, or just a normal bug |
| 12:04.31 | sep | mo1991, traceroute+geoip+ some fancy bash |
| 12:04.55 | sep | mo1991, if your very fancy you could feed google maps the result :) |
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| 12:05.17 | mo1991 | traceroute+geoip+ |
| 12:05.24 | __YENA__ | hello, please, someone could help me with apt preference file ? i would like to exclude the upgrade of my kernel |
| 12:05.27 | mo1991 | this is a program which combines the two? |
| 12:05.29 | mo1991 | sep? |
| 12:05.36 | mo1991 | a bash script i mean |
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| 12:06.03 | jetscreamer | thanks, nerdy2 |
| 12:06.03 | jetscreamer | btw |
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| 12:06.27 | dvm1981 | I reboot and come back ;-) Testing the 3D of ATI... |
| 12:06.39 | xchg | dvm1981: tell me about results :-) |
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| 12:06.58 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx :-) |
| 12:07.17 | aimtrainer | Hi! When I try to send an email with an attachment with thunderbird it tells me attaching the file failed. Does anyone have an idea why? Sorry for the missing details but the error message is not very precise. I tried to send via 3 emailadresses... |
| 12:07.32 | sep | mo1991, a bash script you have to write yes. |
| 12:07.52 | sep | aimtrainer, you have read access to this file ? |
| 12:08.13 | __YENA__ | i have try it: Package: kernel-image Pin: version=2.6.8-2-386 Pin-Priority: -1 .. but it doesn't work :-( |
| 12:08.31 | mo1991 | sep, k thanks |
| 12:08.37 | dusty- | Can someone help me with this strange problem, I type the command: scp c0d3.tar.gz dusty@192.168.0.4:/home/dusty/ and it times out.. I have ssh running on port 22, any ideas? |
| 12:08.44 | dusty- | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.4 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 12:08.44 | dusty- | lost connection |
| 12:08.49 | xchg | __YENA__: i'm not sure, but i guess you can set keep flag to specific package in aptitude |
| 12:09.15 | aimtrainer | sep yea |
| 12:09.17 | xchg | __YENA__: IMHO it isn't a best idea to modify apt.conf to exclude the only package from upgrade |
| 12:09.57 | nerdy2 | EdLin, the TLS service extension for SMTP is rfc 3207 (obsoleting 2487), (which is a "proposed standard"), and widely implemented, it's hardly "non-standard" |
| 12:10.18 | caphuso | EdLin: TLS are handled exactly the same for SMTP and submission services |
| 12:10.24 | xchg | __YENA__: yeah, you should set Hold flag to a specified package in aptitude |
| 12:10.34 | nerdy2 | what you might mean to say is that running smtp&ssl on 25 is nonstandard (i.e. not beginning TLS with a negotiation begun with STARTTLS, but just wrapping the entire thing in SSL) |
| 12:10.45 | __YENA__ | ok Hold flag in aptitude |
| 12:10.47 | nerdy2 | which is true, but that's a very old (obsolete) way to do things |
| 12:10.52 | __YENA__ | ... i try thanks |
| 12:10.52 | caphuso | nerdy2: ssmtp |
| 12:10.54 | quad3datwork2 | might be a stupid question... is all package server down or something? can't search, can't install, can't apt-get update |
| 12:10.55 | xchg | np |
| 12:11.04 | nerdy2 | caphuso, ya, there had to be a name for it :) |
| 12:11.12 | nerdy2 | caphuso, unfortunately i'm not good with names :) |
| 12:11.28 | rendi | helpppppppp |
| 12:11.30 | djp | why do i get small box-like icons appear for certain letters in my web browser? |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | # /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.36 | rendi | i have been del www-data |
| 12:11.37 | caphuso | nerdy2: it's a stupid name anyway. we don't use shttp and sftp either :) |
| 12:11.38 | rendi | ? |
| 12:11.42 | rendi | any help wil apreciate |
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| 12:11.53 | rendi | ? |
| 12:11.54 | EdLin | nerdy2: maybe that's what I meant to say. |
| 12:11.54 | caphuso | nerdy2: (ok, we do use sftp, but not in the ftp-over-ssl sense) |
| 12:12.33 | nerdy2 | i can remember a time when shttp was more common :) |
| 12:12.33 | dvm1981 | To test if my 3D are active i do 'glxinfo | grep direct' ? |
| 12:12.40 | rendi | ? |
| 12:12.42 | rendi | any one ?? |
| 12:12.54 | nerdy2 | it was always a fun game too: is this url an shttp or https one? :) |
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| 12:13.00 | dvm1981 | direct rendering: No |
| 12:13.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 787] by debhelper |
| 12:13.00 | dvm1981 | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
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| 12:13.22 | dvm1981 | No 3D i think :-( |
| 12:13.39 | quad3datwork2 | rendi: vipw and see if you have a user www-data |
| 12:13.41 | nerdy2 | dvm1981, no hardware accelerated 3d, no |
| 12:14.10 | dvm1981 | :-( |
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| 12:14.21 | rendi | no |
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| 12:14.32 | rendi | there is no www-data when i type that |
| 12:14.37 | nerdy2 | dvm1981, on the plus side, maybe you just have to set it up with some black magic in your X config ;) |
| 12:14.48 | dvm1981 | xchg: Are you there ? |
| 12:14.54 | rendi | how to get come back ? |
| 12:15.08 | dvm1981 | nerdy2: I do VooDoo on it because i will test ... |
| 12:15.09 | quad3datwork2 | as far as i know... debian defaultly have www-data regardless |
| 12:15.11 | metho | how do u setup NAT in Debian |
| 12:15.56 | dvm1981 | rendi: Format C: Windows people says :-) |
| 12:16.23 | rendi | so it meant format my woody |
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| 12:16.40 | dvm1981 | rendi: No man ;-0 |
| 12:16.42 | xchg | dvm1981: more or less |
| 12:16.51 | quad3datwork2 | heh, he said 'format my woody' |
| 12:16.56 | dvm1981 | xchg: I think is not working |
| 12:17.03 | nerdy2 | metho, you use iptables as usual, you can put the relevant rules in /etc/network/if-up.d (and if-down.d) |
| 12:17.08 | kimo | a fat32 partition is failing & winblows cant read it. Any recommended data recovery tools ? |
| 12:17.10 | xchg | dvm1981: bad luck, what does lsmod say ? |
| 12:17.36 | dvm1981 | xchg: I us Paste ... |
| 12:17.40 | xchg | dvm1981: agpgart 31400 2 drm,intel_agp |
| 12:17.40 | xchg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:19.02 | dvm1981 | agpgart 34536 1 sis_agp |
| 12:19.05 | sep | rendi, just make the user. on sarge it's something like www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh |
| 12:19.10 | xchg | dvm1981: and drm ? |
| 12:19.20 | xchg | dvm1981: does it say anything about drm ? it DOES matter |
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| 12:19.37 | dvm1981 | xchg: i not find it i think, i look good |
| 12:19.41 | djp | can anyone recommend a peer-to-peer client to run under debian? |
| 12:19.43 | dvm1981 | xchg: re look |
| 12:19.46 | rendi | echo 'www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh' >> /etc/passwd ?? |
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| 12:20.06 | rendi | or /etc/shadow |
| 12:20.14 | xchg | dvm1981: modprobe radeon, modprobe drm, modprobe agpgart |
| 12:20.29 | xchg | dvm1981: and please tell me kernel version you're using |
| 12:20.32 | dvm1981 | xchg: long list, but is not there, i do it |
| 12:20.34 | Knight_Lord | I have a disk with bad sectors. I runned the seagate tools on it and the tool said that it was able to reallocate the sectors. The disk is part of a RAID array. I put the disk back on the array and soon enough it failled. What are the assumptions made when the blocks are marked as "bad". Does the linux md stuff knows about bad blocks? |
| 12:20.40 | Knight_Lord | Does it assumes some kind of filesystem? |
| 12:20.54 | xchg | dvm1981: i use 2.6.15-1-686 here, with earlier versions i had troubles |
| 12:20.54 | dvm1981 | How i can look that in cli ? |
| 12:20.57 | djp | is gnunet popular? |
| 12:20.59 | xchg | dvm1981: uname -a |
| 12:21.15 | dvm1981 | Linux neptune 2.6.8-2-k7 #1 Tue Aug 16 14:00:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:21.25 | xchg | xchg: quite old :-) |
| 12:21.28 | rendi | sep ? |
| 12:21.33 | xchg | dvm1981: is it AMD box ? |
| 12:21.37 | rendi | are u listen to me ? |
| 12:21.44 | sep | rendi, no use adduser/useradd that was just a sarge example |
| 12:21.48 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, no, it's usually done in hardware |
| 12:21.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes |
| 12:21.59 | xchg | dvm1981: modprobe radeon, modprobe drm, modprobe agpgart |
| 12:22.06 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 okay so it should be totally transparent on the software side right? |
| 12:22.08 | sep | rendi, noi dont listen to anyone spesific. just answer when i happen to see something answerable |
| 12:22.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Okidoki ;-) |
| 12:22.11 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, yes |
| 12:22.18 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 so the bad blocks i found should be "new" bad blocks |
| 12:22.23 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, ya |
| 12:22.29 | xchg | dvm1981: if 2.6.8 _DOES_ have radeon :-) i'm not sure... |
| 12:22.39 | rendi | but |
| 12:22.44 | rendi | like this |
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| 12:22.45 | rendi | # adduser www-data |
| 12:22.45 | rendi | adduser: The group `www-data' already exists. |
| 12:22.51 | rendi | :(( |
| 12:22.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: I not good understand |
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| 12:23.20 | xchg | dvm1981: i mean i'm not sure 2.6.8 kernel have these modules, who know.. |
| 12:23.44 | sep | Knight_Lord, most drives have a spare part for internal reallocation of badblocks also. when the os detects badblocks it's usualy time to replace (iirc the article i read it in ) |
| 12:23.58 | nerdy2 | heh, i was gonna say the same thing sep just said, but he typed faster |
| 12:24.01 | dvm1981 | I hqve do modprobe and he say nothings |
| 12:24.10 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have do modprobe and he say nothings |
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| 12:24.20 | __YENA__ | please i can remove the hold status in aptitude ? |
| 12:24.23 | nerdy2 | things are just gonna get worse, back up your data and replace the drive |
| 12:24.30 | xchg | dvm1981: http://pastebin.com/502241 |
| 12:24.31 | Knight_Lord | sep i'm just wondering if this spare sectors are completely transparent to the OS |
| 12:24.38 | xchg | dvm1981: it's output of my lsmod |
| 12:24.43 | rendi | # deluser www-data |
| 12:24.44 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, yes, they are done by the firmware in the drive |
| 12:24.44 | rendi | /usr/sbin/deluser: The user `www-data' does not exist. |
| 12:24.50 | rendi | wtf with my system ??? |
| 12:25.05 | xchg | dvm1981: 17,18,30,31 lines |
| 12:25.09 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 oka, i'm not entirely sure i found bad sectors actually, it's just that the raid rebuild failled |
| 12:25.11 | rendi | i tipe cat /etc/passwd there is no www-data there |
| 12:25.12 | jm_ | rendi: nothing, it only said that group www-data already exists ... |
| 12:25.40 | xchg | dvm1981: if you have these modules (except intel_agp) loaded - it should work |
| 12:25.43 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 i'm gonna try to run badblocks on it again, unfortunately it takes about 2 days to finish because it's a 400GB :-( |
| 12:25.55 | rendi | so the pass for www-data ? |
| 12:26.00 | rendi | blank or ? |
| 12:26.17 | metho | hi could you tell me how to restict users from specific web sites using debian |
| 12:26.19 | xchg | dvm1981: you have to use sis-agp instead of intel-agp |
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| 12:26.23 | dvm1981 | xchg: Coppiing info (file) before forget and check :-) |
| 12:26.29 | jm_ | metho: proxy |
| 12:26.31 | sep | set it to x in /etc/passwd |
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| 12:26.57 | jm_ | sep: that won't help if he's using shadow passwords (and it's default for www-data anyway) |
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| 12:27.32 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i need to add also these modules to '/etc/modules.conf' and reboot ? |
| 12:27.39 | Nick1 | i have a VFAT sata drive i just dropped in a windows xp box and xp has done a check disk and didnt like alot of data on it....is there a a way to get them back and b a way to stop it happening |
| 12:27.42 | Knight_Lord | Has anyone use the "raid5 proactive replacement" patch? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-raid&m=113159296010960&w=2 |
| 12:27.47 | xchg | dvm1981: probally so, in the next order: |
| 12:27.58 | jetscreamer | no, /etc/modules... |
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| 12:28.09 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 12:28.15 | xchg | dvm1981: sis-agp, agpgart, radeon, drm |
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| 12:28.48 | jetscreamer | sis-agp will suck agpgart in |
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| 12:28.57 | sep | jm_, on woody ? |
| 12:29.02 | metho | can anyone tell me where to get free file server software for debian |
| 12:29.04 | dvm1981 | xchg: I set this lint 'sis-agp, agpgart, radeon, drm' on the bottem of the file ? |
| 12:29.12 | jeffrin | we are planning to start a linux company |
| 12:29.17 | dvm1981 | Nice nice nice |
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| 12:29.24 | xchg | jetscreamer: dunno, to be honest, it HAVE to suck everything in even on our previous try, but it don't |
| 12:29.25 | jm_ | sep: yes, it should still default to have invalid password |
| 12:29.40 | xchg | dvm1981: one module - one line |
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| 12:29.55 | rendi | sep_ |
| 12:30.04 | rendi | www-data:x:1001:1001:,,,:/home/www-data:/bin/bash <== this is correct ?? |
| 12:30.05 | dvm1981 | xchg: thx for the pressision, i was on the bad way... |
| 12:30.10 | jetscreamer | metho: file server software? like what? |
| 12:30.48 | jeffrin | dvm1981 : any suggestions |
| 12:30.48 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i needs to reboot to t'check ? |
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| 12:30.51 | jetscreamer | xchg: have him try lsmod |
| 12:31.02 | hawking | setxkbmap tr gives Error loading keyboard description How can i fix that? |
| 12:31.06 | xchg | jetscreamer: alredy did, no success...something strange |
| 12:31.13 | sep | jm_, point was that the user www-data was not generated |
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| 12:31.18 | xchg | dvm1981: you can modprobe them from console too |
| 12:31.29 | jm_ | sep: yes, and it also told him why not |
| 12:31.31 | dvm1981 | jeffrin: I going to reboot, i setup somethings that someone help me here :-) |
| 12:31.48 | xchg | dvm1981: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools |
| 12:31.57 | sep | jm_, ahh didn't know that |
| 12:32.03 | xchg | dvm1981: it'll load everything in /etc/modules w/o restart |
| 12:32.07 | jeffrin | dvm1981 : proceed |
| 12:32.10 | dvm1981 | xchg: I don't know this |
| 12:32.15 | jm_ | sep: > rendi: nothing, it only said that group www-data already exists ... |
| 12:32.31 | metho | i am suppose to setup one server as file server, and i wonder what u need for that |
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| 12:32.35 | rendi | jm_ ? |
| 12:32.43 | jm_ | rendi ! |
| 12:32.53 | dvm1981 | jeffrin: ;-) So ask here, there are so many people that help others here, so don't esithate to ask here... |
| 12:32.54 | rendi | so del group www-data ? |
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| 12:33.03 | rendi | and my system back to normal ? |
| 12:33.04 | jeffrin | ok |
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| 12:33.18 | azeem | so I can choose an HTTP proxy for GAIM, however, at least here, I cannot connect through it |
| 12:33.22 | jeffrin | some please help me to start a linux company |
| 12:33.28 | azeem | is anybody using GAIM via HTTP proxy (for ICQ)? |
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| 12:33.40 | jm_ | yes, as long as you ensure it won't cause any harm - i.e. if some files are owned by group www-data, then re-adding it later may result in different GID and that could cause problems for you |
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| 12:33.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: Iqfter this i must go to look to document my about the '/etc/init.d/module-init-tools' because i don't know this thing |
| 12:34.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i reboot to test ? |
| 12:34.03 | xchg | dvm1981: just type /etc/init.d/module-init-tools |
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| 12:34.14 | xchg | dvm1981: don't care..reboot |
| 12:34.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ha, learning :-) |
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| 12:35.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes he have done some things |
| 12:35.23 | xchg | dvm1981: but you have to restart xserver too |
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| 12:35.36 | xchg | dvm1981: ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 12:36.05 | dvm1981 | xchg: Comming back ;-) RE thankx for the help :-) |
| 12:36.12 | xchg | you're welcome :-) |
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| 12:36.47 | metho | any idea of setting debian as file server |
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| 12:37.31 | dbi | metho: file server serving files to whom? windows or unix? |
| 12:37.37 | dvm1981 | xchg: Im back |
| 12:37.45 | xchg | dvm1981: it was fast :-) |
| 12:37.54 | Konky | anyone ever wroked with the usb-storage source ? |
| 12:37.55 | dvm1981 | xchg: AMD |
| 12:37.58 | dvm1981 | :-) |
| 12:38.07 | xchg | dvm1981: SIS chipset..suck :-) |
| 12:38.20 | dvm1981 | xchg: and .... Debian :-) |
| 12:38.41 | LoRe | man, what's going on in unstable, there are every day 200 packages to upgrade :) |
| 12:38.46 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have do 'glxinfo | grep direct' |
| 12:38.48 | metho | dbi: other debian clients!!! |
| 12:38.54 | dvm1981 | direct rendering: No |
| 12:38.54 | dvm1981 | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 12:38.55 | metho | dbi: Linux |
| 12:39.08 | xchg | dvm1981: for example... |
| 12:39.09 | dvm1981 | So i think, the ATI here is not nice today |
| 12:39.24 | xchg | dvm1981: glxgears i use usually |
| 12:39.37 | aimtrainer | I cant find a deb package of thunderbid 1.5 anywhere -does any1 of you have n idea? |
| 12:39.39 | dbi | metho: then NFS is the obvious choice. install nfs-user-server and read exports(5) |
| 12:39.42 | xchg | dvm1981: it makes a sense to know if everything is working fine |
| 12:39.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes that works fine |
| 12:39.54 | xchg | dvm1981: FPS ? |
| 12:39.56 | jm_ | but probably slow |
| 12:40.10 | metho | dbi: ok 1 min |
| 12:40.17 | dvm1981 | xchg: FPS ?? |
| 12:40.29 | diana | error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 12:40.31 | xchg | dvm1981: how much fps glxgears give out ? |
| 12:40.36 | diana | I want to "mysqladmin drop cacti" |
| 12:40.47 | diana | I know the mysql admin password...but how do I login? |
| 12:40.54 | xchg | dvm1981: i have 6369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1273.789 FPS |
| 12:41.00 | xchg | dvm1981: nice result for me :) |
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| 12:41.09 | dvm1981 | xchg: Where you see that ? |
| 12:41.17 | xchg | dvm1981: just run glxgears from terminal |
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| 12:41.24 | xchg | dvm1981: and see the terminal output |
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| 12:41.34 | dvm1981 | xchg: A yes, im ... today |
| 12:41.42 | dvm1981 | 1024 frames in 5.0 seconds = 204.800 FPS |
| 12:41.42 | dvm1981 | 1240 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.000 FPS |
| 12:41.49 | metho | dbi: how do i read the exports (5) for configrations |
| 12:41.59 | xchg | dvm1981: better than nothing |
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| 12:42.07 | AgentJ87 | hi all |
| 12:42.14 | metho | dbi: how do i run nfs |
| 12:42.15 | dvm1981 | xchg: But thats not good i think ? |
| 12:42.24 | xchg | dvm1981: definitely not good |
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| 12:42.33 | AgentJ87 | how do i run rn a check sfv |
| 12:42.42 | AgentJ87 | how do i run a check sfv ? |
| 12:42.42 | jm_ | cfv |
| 12:42.45 | dbi | metho: first install package nfs-user-server, then read the manual page for exports |
| 12:42.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: So what's happend with my stuff ? |
| 12:42.50 | xchg | dvm1981: hm, don't you want to upgrade you kernel ? i had sad issues with 3d befor 2.8.15 i'm using right now |
| 12:42.54 | wizzomafizzo | Do I need to enable something before I can monitor my battery? |
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| 12:43.06 | AgentJ87 | jm_ cfv file.sfv ? |
| 12:43.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Need i use i recenter kernel ? |
| 12:43.20 | jm_ | AgentJ87: man cfv |
| 12:43.25 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 12:43.31 | xchg | dvm1981: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 |
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| 12:44.06 | xchg | xchg: old kernel will be renamed to LinuxOLD |
| 12:44.07 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok :-) thx upgrade now |
| 12:44.30 | xchg | xchg: and follow the advices it'll tell you |
| 12:44.39 | xchg | dvm1981: specially about initrd.img |
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| 12:45.41 | dvm1981 | xchg: i see now better |
| 12:46.00 | xchg | damn, so many problems with graphcards...we definitely need to start something with it :-) |
| 12:46.37 | xchg | auto-configurer or something like that |
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| 12:46.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: He could't find the package |
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| 12:46.54 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 12:46.58 | xchg | dvm1981: stable distribution ? |
| 12:47.00 | jetscreamer | !ati |
| 12:47.00 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 12:47.04 | dvm1981 | xchg: yes |
| 12:47.14 | jetscreamer | what happened to the horrors of ati factoid |
| 12:47.16 | xchg | dvm1981: unstable here...:/ |
| 12:47.19 | Shadur | jetscreamer: [13:33] <jeffrin> some please help me to start a linux company |
| 12:47.21 | dvm1981 | xchg: Testing ? |
| 12:47.22 | mejo | why are apache rewrite-rules which are configured in sites-enabled/000-default true for all virtualhosts, and not only for the ones not configured in sites-enabled/anything-but-default? |
| 12:47.55 | jetscreamer | jeffrin should learn asterisk and sell pbx's |
| 12:48.05 | xchg | dvm1981: follow the link jetscreamer told |
| 12:48.09 | diana | How can I delete a database in mysql? |
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| 12:48.20 | mejo | i have a "RewriteRule ^/.* /index.html" in sites-enabled/000-default, and now all virtualhosts have this rewrite rule, even the ones that have own virtualhost configurations. |
| 12:48.21 | diana | I want to "mysqladmin drop cacti" but it says root@localhost doesn't have permissions. |
| 12:48.22 | jetscreamer | #mysql ? |
| 12:48.25 | jm_ | diana: drop it, it's explained in MySQL docs |
| 12:48.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: But i have do some test to migrate to testing, and some days ago a have luck in do that and understand how to do it, i have also take note of is so i will be upgrade soon to testing |
| 12:48.54 | diana | jm_: yes that's where I read to do it..mysql docs...but it says root@localhost doesn't have permission |
| 12:49.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok |
| 12:49.09 | diana | jm_: I know the root password for mysql..but I'm not sure how to allow root@localhost to do stuff. |
| 12:49.09 | xchg | dvm1981: oh, i didn't want to force you to migrate |
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| 12:49.24 | xchg | dvm1981: it's the worst thing you can ever do IMHO ;-) |
| 12:49.54 | jm_ | diana: that is also covered by the manual - I don't know it off top of my head |
| 12:50.12 | dvm1981 | xchg: No, no but i would like it of it to do but first i had some trouble to migrate to because i don't know first how to, but i have learned and will do it |
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| 12:51.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have tested in virtual pc's and works fine, personally i would like to go to testing here, im in testing in my virtual pc, my 2 servers these i hold in s stabe |
| 12:51.25 | xchg | dvm1981: unstable is very stable btw, but sometimes you'll meet the problems like broken package depedencies |
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| 12:52.10 | metho | hello, i am Linux noob, i want to restrict sex sites on my computer cos my little cousion uses it all the time and i wonder what could be done to achieve this task |
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| 12:52.25 | xchg | dvm1981: the site gives the answer why everything works fine here and doesn't work at your machin...unstable here and stable at your side |
| 12:52.29 | jm_ | I have already told you - use a proxy |
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| 12:52.39 | metho | dbi: oh btw thanks for ur help!! i got it working |
| 12:52.42 | xchg | dvm1981: The unstable branch of Debian has the newer xserver-xorg (X.org X server), and this implementation has better support for Radeon cards, including 3d acceleration for many of them. Some ATi users may have better results using X.org than using fglrx. There is also a backport of the X.org X server for sarge, at http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ -- see ConfiguringX for details. Your mileage may vary. |
| 12:52.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i understand, that its really not easy to troubleshoot, but i would like to learn, i have 25 years and have 7 years IT experience made by my |
| 12:53.16 | xchg | dvm1981: it means you're at you own now, i have not any experience with stable :) |
| 12:53.24 | xchg | dvm1981: but feel free to ask anytime |
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| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | jm_ i read the man cfv and i got this.... cfv -f -M --progress yes BONUS_DISC.sfv |
| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | -M : No such file or directory (CF) |
| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | 0 files, 0 OK, 1 chksum file errors. 0.001 seconds, 0.0K/s |
| 12:53.49 | dbi | metho: you're welcome |
| 12:53.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: I understand |
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| 12:54.13 | dvm1981 | xchg: But testing is same as unstable, i need a cup coffe |
| 12:54.32 | AgentJ87 | any ideas anyone |
| 12:54.33 | AgentJ87 | ? |
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| 12:54.39 | metho | jm_: i am noob and i dont know how to configure a proxy or which proxy to download etc |
| 12:54.40 | user__ | hi |
| 12:54.45 | jm_ | AgentJ87: read it again and notice how -f switch requires an argument - also read how you can use it with no options |
| 12:54.45 | dvm1981 | going to take a cup coffe. I would like to give on someone or mail one ;-) |
| 12:54.49 | user__ | what module should i load to have /dev/dsp device? |
| 12:54.58 | jm_ | metho: install it first, I recommend privoxy or dansguardian |
| 12:55.14 | jm_ | user_: are you using ALSA? |
| 12:55.14 | xchg | user_: snd-pcm-oss |
| 12:55.35 | user__ | xchg thanks |
| 12:55.37 | xchg | np |
| 12:55.38 | user__ | it worked |
| 12:55.43 | user__ | jp_ yes i am |
| 12:56.34 | dbi | user_: you better say to your program to use alsa, oss is deprecated. of cource, the program in question may not support alsa, in which case... snd-pcm-oss :) |
| 12:56.35 | metho | jm_: i'll install privoxy |
| 12:57.01 | user__ | dbi many programs do not support alsa |
| 12:57.10 | jm_ | metho: then you have to configure his web browser to always use your proxy, or setup transparent proxying |
| 12:57.14 | user__ | in moust case games |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | jm_ i see it says if -f is used then...-f file |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | Specify the name of the checksum file to test or create. If |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | file is -, stdin (for -T) or stdout (for -C) will be used. |
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| 12:57.52 | jm_ | AgentJ87: no need to paste it here |
| 12:58.00 | AgentJ87 | whats does i mean when "file is -" |
| 12:58.27 | AgentJ87 | jm_ imma bit confused |
| 12:58.31 | jm_ | it means it will read it from stdin, but don't worry about that, it seems too advanced for you for now |
| 12:58.37 | jm_ | AgentJ87: no shit |
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| 12:58.52 | henriko | anyone know if LVREDUCE is supposed to take a reaaaally long time? |
| 12:59.21 | AgentJ87 | jm_ to avoid more further dumb questions can u givve an example of what i should typee |
| 12:59.23 | metho | jm_: i have installed the privoxy, what do i do next |
| 12:59.32 | jm_ | metho: I have already told you |
| 12:59.39 | jm_ | AgentJ87: follow my other advice |
| 12:59.48 | AgentJ87 | which is? |
| 13:00.06 | metho | jm_: how do u setup transparent proxy? |
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| 13:00.16 | jm_ | read it again please, I told you to read about two things in cfv man page |
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| 13:00.34 | debiankid | hellow to all ++ :) |
| 13:00.48 | AgentJ87 | <jm_> AgentJ87: read it again and notice how -f switch requires an argument - also read how you can use it with no options |
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| 13:00.50 | jm_ | metho: that's explained in various howtos, I'm not going to explain it on IRC |
| 13:00.50 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 13:00.51 | dvm1981 | I a little bit confused 'testing' is the same thing as 'unstable' ? |
| 13:01.10 | metho | jm_: any website links? |
| 13:01.11 | azeem | dvm1981: it is not |
| 13:01.17 | AgentJ87 | so cfv -f file |
| 13:01.21 | AgentJ87 | or |
| 13:01.24 | AgentJ87 | cfv * |
| 13:01.25 | dvm1981 | ok |
| 13:01.30 | crypt_ex | how do I put processes in the background, log out of ssh and then log back in and see process again? |
| 13:01.30 | metho | jm_: i am linux noob, so i require special attention |
| 13:01.34 | jm_ | metho: I don't have any, but it's easy to find |
| 13:01.44 | dvm1981 | :-) i must look the difference a links ? |
| 13:01.45 | jm_ | no that's not without arguments |
| 13:01.57 | azeem | dvm1981: what are you looking for, what is your problem? |
| 13:02.01 | jm_ | crypt_ex: screen or dtach |
| 13:02.11 | crypt_ex | thanks jm_ :) |
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| 13:02.31 | AgentJ87 | cfv -r -m -u |
| 13:02.35 | dvm1981 | azeem: The difference version stable, testing, ... |
| 13:02.38 | AgentJ87 | ? |
| 13:02.40 | jm_ | do you know what arguments are? |
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| 13:03.01 | AgentJ87 | in this case no |
| 13:03.04 | cplx | Hi, I have redhat installed atm on this box, and I have a directory "/storage" where I have important files.. say if I want to install debian on this same hard disk how would I go about it without deleting this directory? |
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| 13:03.15 | jm_ | AgentJ87: you need to read about the basics first |
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| 13:03.33 | azeem | dvm1981: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 13:03.52 | AgentJ87 | this is so complex yet simple |
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| 13:04.00 | AgentJ87 | wish i could see thru my errors |
| 13:04.18 | dvm1981 | azeem: Really thx, thats what i search 'releases' ;-) |
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| 13:04.34 | adept | anyone here with nvidia video card and lockups with 8178 drivers? |
| 13:04.35 | dvm1981 | azeem: When i dont know what to search ... |
| 13:04.40 | jetscreamer | cplx: just don't 'format' or initialize the partition |
| 13:04.41 | jm_ | arguments are -r -m -u ... - so read through the EXAMPLE section, you clearly didn't read the man page at all |
| 13:04.45 | dvm1981 | azeem: ;-0 |
| 13:04.48 | AgentJ87 | ok |
| 13:04.50 | AgentJ87 | i did it |
| 13:04.51 | _joey | is it possible to run gui applications on remote server, disconnect from the server and leave the application running ? |
| 13:04.57 | jm_ | adept: works for me at home |
| 13:05.03 | jm_ | _joey: yes |
| 13:05.04 | AgentJ87 | jm| cfv -f file is workin |
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| 13:05.08 | _joey | how ? |
| 13:05.12 | dvm1981 | Gooing to read nice info on the web, thx to all people who |
| 13:05.15 | jm_ | AgentJ87: "cfv" alone would work too |
| 13:05.22 | Viper12 | adept, running them on ubuntu box and has been smooth as silk. |
| 13:05.22 | dvm1981 | spled his times for others ... |
| 13:05.24 | jm_ | X-Ray, NX, xmove ... |
| 13:05.39 | adept | jm_, Viper12: which kernel? with agpgart or without? any special options to module/xserver? |
| 13:05.51 | _joey | jm_: are these applications ? |
| 13:06.07 | jm_ | adept: 2.6.12.3 IIRC - I don't use agpgart, I use their own AGP support, no special options |
| 13:06.10 | xchg | had anyone tried Xgl server yet ? |
| 13:06.21 | xchg | lazy to compile :-) |
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| 13:06.28 | jm_ | _joey: more or less yes |
| 13:06.51 | adept | jm_, Viper12: it may be my notebook, but with those drivers all I got is a hard lockup split second after I start X. |
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| 13:07.17 | _joey | jm_: xmove - allows you to move programs between X Window System displays |
| 13:07.20 | AgentJ87 | ty jm for help |
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| 13:07.23 | _joey | I only found this one in cache |
| 13:07.32 | cplx | jetscreamer |
| 13:07.33 | _joey | could briefly describe how it works please |
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| 13:07.41 | cplx | jetscreamer: then it will elave the rest of redhats crap? |
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| 13:08.05 | sewi | I need gnome-conig commend to compile a gnome program under KDE so I have to install a debian package which include this commend but how to get to know it where gnome-config command is? |
| 13:08.24 | sewi | s/gnome-conig/gnome-config |
| 13:08.55 | AgentJ87 | next question |
| 13:09.00 | dvm1981 | xchg: Are you there ? |
| 13:09.03 | AgentJ87 | how do i extract rars |
| 13:09.19 | xchg | dvm1981: more or less |
| 13:09.29 | dvm1981 | xchg: hi hi |
| 13:09.30 | xchg | dvm1981: watching Back to the future 2 right now :-) |
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| 13:09.43 | xchg | dvm1981: any success ? |
| 13:09.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) |
| 13:10.23 | dvm1981 | xchg: I reading some things here on the Debian website and thingking about migration, drink my cup coffee ... |
| 13:10.41 | xchg | dvm1981: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:10.47 | xchg | dvm1981: change stable to unstable |
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| 13:10.56 | takatumi | sewi: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:10.57 | dvm1981 | xchg: I hope that there are a solution when i migrate to Testing |
| 13:11.01 | xchg | dvm1981: run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:11.09 | xchg | dvm1981: then change to testing |
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| 13:11.25 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes i know, but ATI works in testing ? |
| 13:11.37 | xchg | dvm1981: have no idea... unstable here |
| 13:11.46 | jm_ | _joey: man page explains it |
| 13:11.51 | xchg | dvm1981: being a dirty nerd i prefer unstable :-) |
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| 13:11.56 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: make sure that you actually do want to use etch or sid (testing or unstable) before you actually upgrade |
| 13:12.02 | AgentJ87 | jm{ last question is there a man for rars |
| 13:12.05 | jm_ | adept: try going through troubleshooting section in README.gz file |
| 13:12.06 | AgentJ87 | how to extract |
| 13:12.06 | AgentJ87 | ? |
| 13:12.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i have no experiece in unstable, i test i before in a virtual pc, so ... |
| 13:12.14 | jm_ | AgentJ87: sure, man rar ;) |
| 13:12.23 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 13:12.27 | jetscreamer | AgentJ87: rar -x iirc, or just use unrar |
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| 13:12.36 | AgentJ87 | lemme check it out o i can ask an intelligent question |
| 13:12.41 | xchg | dvm1981: the only thing i can say - unstable is for home, stable is for production servers |
| 13:12.54 | xchg | some packages in stable are just too...stable. and old. |
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| 13:13.57 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, you have convienc my to test unstable man :-0 look at you're movie and i rejoin you ;-) |
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| 13:14.36 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i will prepare i pc in a virtual pc here so i can begin to install a new machinge and begin to test with it |
| 13:14.37 | xchg | dvm1981: ok :-) if you're will experience troubles with ldconfig (and you will i thing) just contact me |
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| 13:14.54 | xchg | s/thing/think |
| 13:15.20 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i wi |
| 13:15.34 | sewi | takatumi: thanks |
| 13:16.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: Really thx, i end my cup coffe and begining to install stable then migrate to unstable ... |
| 13:16.59 | xchg | there's an interesting thing durning upgrading from stable to unstable (at least occups here) - ldconfig doesn't work and apt returns an error |
| 13:16.59 | xchg | it's due libc upgrade i guess |
| 13:17.15 | xchg | solution: remove /sbin/ldconfig, then do echo "exit" >> /sbin/ldconfig; chmod +x /sbin/ldconfig |
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| 13:18.01 | xchg | after upgrade sucessed just copy a working copy of ldconfig from /var/cache/apt/packages/libc-blabla.deb to /sbin/ |
| 13:18.09 | dvm1981 | xchg: yes i remember that i have receive that and that was my faill and where i have aborted to go more ... |
| 13:18.35 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: you don't have to install stable first |
| 13:18.38 | POVaddct | xchg: dangerous. you might end up with a broken ld.so.cache file. |
| 13:18.59 | POVaddct | xchg: so only libs in /lib will be found |
| 13:19.02 | xchg | POVaddct: after that _WITHOUT_ restarting the man should run ldconfig |
| 13:19.08 | dvm1981 | xchg: I hope my chatlog works fine and he record all here ... to many things i will note, thx guys ;-) |
| 13:19.22 | xchg | in case of restart there's a chance to search for rescue-cd |
| 13:19.22 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: interesting |
| 13:19.38 | POVaddct | xchg: okay. but if you forget to put the new ldconfig in /sbin, you are f**ked |
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| 13:19.52 | xchg | dvm1981: the best way to copy a working ldconfig from libc..deb is midnight commander (mc) |
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| 13:19.54 | dvm1981 | Also first i would like to check if my chatlog record all these infor here on these irc. |
| 13:20.06 | POVaddct | xchg: yeah. cd bootable systems can fix that of course. |
| 13:20.07 | xchg | POVaddct: yes. by the way it's only the dirty hack |
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| 13:20.14 | dvm1981 | xchg : yes i like mc ;-) |
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| 13:20.44 | xchg | POVaddct: i didn't found another quick workaround, so have to use this durning stable->unstable upgrades |
| 13:21.00 | POVaddct | xchg: okay |
| 13:23.01 | deeLer | i've created a class in CUPS and i still can't print from another machine with lpd, i can't even telnet to port 515 .. any ideas? |
| 13:23.08 | dvm1981 | My xchat log been al these info here, that's a good thing to know, no more stress to note all these usefull info. |
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| 13:23.55 | debiankid | hey bud why my apache give me forbidden everytime i upload files to my webserver? |
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| 13:24.16 | basix | i am planning to buy an AMD64 based system. i wanted to know whether MSI RS482 motherboard would be better than the MSI K8TNEO? which one is more compatible with Linux |
| 13:24.20 | xchg | debhelper: access rights. chmod 777 /path/to/the/file/file |
| 13:24.35 | xchg | or any other right |
| 13:24.37 | sewi | normally in pool directory in debian repository there are .deb .orig.tar.gz diff.gz and .dsc files. I want to build manually gs-common package but in pool repository I can find only .dsc and .tar.gz files. So how the .deb file was built only from these packages? |
| 13:24.43 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Can you tell me more about migration from Stable to unstable without beginning from stabe ? |
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| 13:25.09 | debiankid | xchg yes but everytime i change from my computer a web or something the permision change |
| 13:25.22 | epsilon | and if you use 777 for upload, make sure the site is protected with password |
| 13:25.28 | debiankid | and i have to do again and again chmod -R 775 * |
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| 13:25.43 | xchg | debiankid: by ftp ? |
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| 13:26.05 | debiankid | well i dont have an ftpdaemon installed on my server |
| 13:26.07 | xchg | debiankid: if so you need to edit you ftp config for upload access rights |
| 13:26.25 | epsilon | debiankid: then install FTP, better than upload via http |
| 13:26.42 | epsilon | FTP is one of basic service if you want to transfer files |
| 13:26.55 | xchg | proftpd for example... |
| 13:27.00 | debiankid | epsilon i upload via smb , but as you sd i m going to install ftp daemon |
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| 13:27.03 | xchg | or vsftpd for extreme security |
| 13:27.17 | debiankid | vsftpd |
| 13:27.18 | xchg | debhelper: the edit samba for access permissions |
| 13:27.20 | epsilon | smb? you work local or remote? |
| 13:27.32 | debiankid | i work local to remote |
| 13:27.52 | debiankid | i edit my files locally and upload to the webserver via smb |
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| 13:28.04 | epsilon | debiankid: if unsure how to configure Samba, install SWAT |
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| 13:28.35 | xchg | debiankid: add create mask=755 to [blabla] stanza |
| 13:28.45 | xchg | debhelper: in samba config |
| 13:28.56 | day_cho | woi |
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| 13:29.06 | debiankid | ok let me do that |
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| 13:29.36 | dvm1981 | I have 2 monitors on one video card. These two works in duplicated mode, i would like to have slit these two so that on the left monitor i use it for the irc and for the Usenet, virtual pc window. How to ? im in Stable, ATI, no 3D |
| 13:30.24 | nevyn | no 3d? |
| 13:30.32 | nevyn | what card? |
| 13:30.53 | dvm1981 | nevyn: ATI readeon 9600SE |
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| 13:31.07 | justdust | hello everyone |
| 13:31.26 | justdust | ? |
| 13:31.29 | dvm1981 | I would like to split the view and not duplicate, so i see not the use of it now |
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| 13:31.49 | stew | dvm1981: have you tried following the xinerama howto? |
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| 13:31.52 | cusco | hi.. is anyone here using exim4 and sa-exim ?? |
| 13:31.56 | dvm1981 | justdust: hello |
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| 13:32.05 | nevyn | dvm1981: mergedfb can do it. |
| 13:32.06 | cusco | Restarting MTA: 2006-01-12 13:31:54 Exim configuration error in line 687 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: option "local_scan_path" unknown |
| 13:32.18 | nevyn | dvm1981: it's the way you want to do it even |
| 13:32.20 | dvm1981 | stew: yes, i have i my bookmarks i retry |
| 13:32.36 | MrMazda | I just did my first install of any pure Debian (etch), including Gnome and KDE. But, there is no login manager enabled, and I'm not having any luck finding out how to enable one so far on http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ConfiguringX or anywhere else. :-( |
| 13:32.59 | justdust | I just installed debian with KDesktop, I'd like to know how I can update my video driver... Video is crappy, resolution is ok... |
| 13:33.02 | stew | dvm1981: put your XF86Config-4 in a pastebin |
| 13:33.08 | kreg_work | anyone ever used a radius server for authenticaion? i want to use one for dialup useres, but i have no idea what to do with an iptables firewall to sit locally on the same box. |
| 13:34.00 | dvm1981 | stew: yep, but i have retry several times and i think now there is not trace about it. Because i have do somethings whrong at a moment and have do restore that file |
| 13:34.27 | xchg | kreg_work: what favour of radius you're using ? |
| 13:34.39 | xchg | kreg_work: i've used xtradius and it worked fine |
| 13:34.42 | sep | MrMazda, you mean a grafical login ??? apt-get install [xdm|gdm|kdm|wdm|pdm|sdm] pick one . |
| 13:34.46 | nevyn | justdust: how exactly is video crappy? |
| 13:34.55 | dvm1981 | stew: Thx for the suggestion, i will now redo the steps indicate in the 'xinerama howto' and let it know about it ;-) |
| 13:35.07 | debiankid | hey thanks |
| 13:35.18 | justdust | nevyn: When I watch video the screen lags... |
| 13:35.18 | kreg_work | xchg, the radius service works, but i want to put a firewall on the box now. |
| 13:35.27 | kreg_work | radiusd 1.5.5 |
| 13:35.28 | nevyn | justdust: what player are you using?? |
| 13:35.30 | MrMazda | sep: I thought kdm was part of kdebase? |
| 13:35.30 | kreg_work | er |
| 13:35.31 | justdust | xine |
| 13:35.31 | kreg_work | 1.6.6 |
| 13:35.40 | nevyn | justdust: how fast is your machine? |
| 13:35.56 | justdust | nevyn: AMD 1200Mhz |
| 13:36.05 | kreg_work | xchg, if i do a "iptables -P INPUT DROP" i can't seem to figure out what needs to be opened for this kind of server. |
| 13:36.16 | jm_ | MrMazda: no, kdebase merely recommends kdm |
| 13:36.43 | xchg | kreg: 1812, 1813 are radius ports (usually) |
| 13:37.00 | xchg | xchg: but users have nothing to do with them |
| 13:37.03 | kreg_work | xchg, would any icmp's need to be allowed? |
| 13:37.05 | petemc | kreg_work: grep radius /etc/services |
| 13:37.14 | nevyn | justdust: and you're running a k7 kernel? |
| 13:37.17 | kreg_work | petemc, that's not the concern |
| 13:37.27 | xchg | kreg_work: it depends. if you're using interim accounting - then maybe |
| 13:37.47 | xchg | kreg_work: interim means radius server will check the user persistence every given amount of time |
| 13:37.56 | xchg | kreg_work: every 5secs for example |
| 13:37.58 | MrMazda | sep: thx :) |
| 13:38.07 | justdust | nevyn: sorry man, I'm really a noob... I know I chose the 2.6 kernel, nothing more... |
| 13:38.11 | sep | MrMazda, no only recomends |
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| 13:38.30 | kreg_work | xchg, well when i put a firewall up, and allow in the input table any service listening on the box, the users get a "timeout" error when they dail in durring the authentication |
| 13:39.00 | justdust | nevyn: I took a i386 netinstall, that ain't wrong, right ? |
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| 13:39.47 | xchg | kreg_work: no way. outside users have nothing to do with radius. radius is just authetication scheme, out of many others. It will communicate (locally) with pppd (in your case) and decide to allow or not allow the user in |
| 13:40.00 | xchg | kreg_work: but it never will speak with the users directly |
| 13:40.10 | kreg_work | xchg, right. hmmmm |
| 13:40.13 | nevyn | justdust: yep you got a 2.6 kernel.. and that's great.. it's compiled for 386 |
| 13:40.33 | kreg_work | xchg, basically all i can imagine needing is an ESTABLISHED,RELATED state rule and let lo -j ACCEPT |
| 13:40.53 | justdust | but 386 hasn't got anything to do with Intel or AMD right... |
| 13:40.55 | kreg_work | should be all i need |
| 13:41.10 | nevyn | so it's still lowest common denominator.. it's designed to get you up and running but you want to install a kernel compiled for k7 |
| 13:41.33 | crypt_ex | with screen, is it ctrl+A to close the screen? |
| 13:41.37 | nevyn | justdust: well the code runs on both.. |
| 13:41.42 | nevyn | crypt_ex: ctrl-a c |
| 13:41.51 | chexov | #vim |
| 13:41.54 | nevyn | crypt_ex: or just exit the shell |
| 13:41.58 | justdust | nevyn: ok, now that I know what I want, how do I proceed ? ;) |
| 13:41.59 | jm_ | crypto;info screen |
| 13:42.12 | xchg | kreg_work: in xtradius i used several years ago was a great scripting ability. It worked via perl. In your case i would write hmm...let's call it "on-user-login.pl" script which includes user's IP to iptables, and "on-user-out" which acts vice-versa, e.g. excludes |
| 13:42.16 | nevyn | justdust: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 13:42.26 | justdust | thx man ! |
| 13:42.30 | xchg | kreg_work: but i don't know how the things working in radiusd |
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| 13:42.46 | justdust | bbiab... |
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| 13:43.01 | tarzeau | i hate acrobat and pdf |
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| 13:43.09 | nevyn | justdust: I wouldn't go just yet.... |
| 13:43.15 | kreg_work | xchg, thanks i'll keep playing |
| 13:43.28 | nevyn | sigh 00:45 I should sleep... |
| 13:43.28 | justdust | no ? |
| 13:43.41 | xchg | kreg_work: you're welcome. btw, also you can play with pppd scripts too. just pass iptable-ing to them |
| 13:43.42 | nevyn | justdust: that just gives you a list of the availible kernels.. |
| 13:43.47 | nevyn | pick one that says k7 |
| 13:43.50 | crypt_ex | nevyn, cant use exit because of the process I just started. ctrl-a & c creates new screens? |
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| 13:44.01 | justdust | cache search, apt-get it, crash, reboot with net install, welcome to my world... |
| 13:44.08 | nevyn | crypt_ex: if you want to DETACH the screen it's ctrl-a d |
| 13:44.18 | nevyn | crypt_ex: detach != close |
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| 13:44.25 | nevyn | close == end process |
| 13:44.30 | crypt_ex | thanks nevyn |
| 13:44.37 | justdust | thx nevyn, I'll go aned have a look... |
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| 13:45.14 | crypt_ex | nevyn, oopps, no I dont want to close it.... I want it left running? |
| 13:46.09 | wolaoye | i had skype installed but lost it after installation of other packages. it requires libqt3c102-mt which apt reports as obsoleted and being replaced by libqt3-mt. how to go around this? |
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| 13:46.36 | justdust | nevyn: kernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7. looks good ? |
| 13:46.38 | stew | wolaoye: /msg dpkg skype |
| 13:46.46 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 13:47.01 | justdust | I'm going to patch my kernel, I ROCK ! |
| 13:47.08 | xchg | justdust: linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 looks better :) |
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| 13:47.23 | stew | justdust: if you are going to patch it you don't want an image, you want source, what patch? |
| 13:47.26 | justdust | xchg: where do I find that one ? |
| 13:47.35 | stew | justdust: that one is for unstable, not stable |
| 13:47.39 | xchg | justdust: erm.... stable ? |
| 13:47.53 | epsilon | "I'm going to patch my kernel" <-- one of the famoust "last words" |
| 13:47.56 | xchg | justdust: if stable then sorry, nothing |
| 13:47.59 | justdust | stew: I'm using linux scince 1 hour ;) |
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| 13:48.39 | justdust | epsilon: I'll survive... |
| 13:48.55 | epsilon | then you probably don't want to compile own kernel yet |
| 13:49.07 | stew | justdust: if you just mean you are going to replace your kernel, you don't mean patch, and you'll survive |
| 13:49.08 | justdust | otherwise I'll just come back by iirc as root ;) |
| 13:49.21 | xchg | why not, it's a great challenge to every linux newbie |
| 13:49.29 | xchg | helps to understand a lot of things :) |
| 13:49.33 | kanzaki | alooo |
| 13:49.48 | justdust | so I just apt-get the kernel image ? |
| 13:50.03 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 13:50.05 | diana | "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." I get this when I go to mywebsite/phpbb ... where in the administration panel do I start phpbb? |
| 13:50.06 | wolaoye | stew: what does the dpkg mean? i have a skype---.deb. i can't install it with 'dpkg -i" due to dependency problem. |
| 13:50.08 | epsilon | pre compiled kernel image by debian is more safe for you |
| 13:50.18 | stew | !tell wolaoye about skype |
| 13:50.21 | justdust | ok, thx, bbiab, (or not)... |
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| 13:50.48 | stew | wolaoye: dpkg is a bot, just sent you info, try apt-getting a "static qt" version from debian-unoficial |
| 13:50.53 | peope | Should you still use gcc 2.95 for kernel compilation? (2.6.15) |
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| 13:51.32 | wolaoye | stew: the thing is this .deb that i downloaded from skype site was installed and working before. |
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| 13:52.07 | stew | wolaoye: yes, this is the same one just with the qt libraries statically compiled since they are no longer on your machine |
| 13:52.10 | gnubien | anyone got a deb initrd/alsa file they can post to pastebin.ca? want to see how alsa is stopped and restarted with that script if its readable ;) |
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| 13:52.53 | wolaoye | stew: ok, got u. so the qt lib was somehow removed. |
| 13:53.06 | stew | wolaoye: no, upgraded |
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| 13:53.43 | wolaoye | stew: true, that is more accurate. |
| 13:53.55 | justdust | hmm, didn't get any errors, should I reload something, reboot *ducks*... |
| 13:54.01 | stew | wolaoye: it was replaced by a newer, but incompatible version that would require to have recompiled skype sometime in the last few months but aparantly they haven't |
| 13:54.12 | takatumi | peope: worked fine with 4 here |
| 13:54.15 | stew | justdust: leave the ducks alone, reboot the computer |
| 13:54.38 | justdust | ok, going down... |
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| 13:56.02 | debiankid | hey pple debian supports dhcp- as server? |
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| 13:56.43 | beardy | debiankid: You can install and run a dhcp server, yes. |
| 13:57.01 | debiankid | really? |
| 13:57.12 | beardy | debiankid: Of course. |
| 13:57.26 | stew | debiankid: apt-cache search dhcp server |
| 13:57.50 | xchg | dhcp3-server will be the bet |
| 13:57.51 | debiankid | i have a samba running as pdc-server in the same server / if i install dhcp in the same machine can i get in trouble ? |
| 13:58.22 | xchg | debiankid: no. these're different things |
| 13:58.23 | stew | debiankid: it wouldn't matter if your dhcp server were the same as the samba server, no |
| 13:58.50 | debiankid | stew uff thanks |
| 13:59.06 | debiankid | stew i can install dhcp safety now i think |
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| 14:03.29 | debiankid | xchg bud i cant find dhcp server in apt-cache search |
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| 14:04.00 | Matt-H | debiankid: there's a package called "dhcp" which is the server |
| 14:04.13 | xchg | debiankid: apt-get install dhcp3-server |
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| 14:04.26 | stew | debiankid: what version of debian? |
| 14:04.38 | debiankid | stew debian 3.1 sarge |
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| 14:05.04 | azreal | anyone know if a recent or current testing netinstall cd will do a pppoe connection yet or not? |
| 14:05.23 | stew | debiankid: your sources.list must be messed up if you don't find anything with "apt-cache search dhcp server", you should paste it somewhere for us to look or run apt-setup |
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| 14:05.40 | stew | azreal: probably since the current stable can |
| 14:05.46 | justdust | I'm back... |
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| 14:05.56 | azreal | stew: from the smaller cd, and not CD 1? |
| 14:06.00 | xchg | apt-cache search dhcpd |
| 14:06.02 | xchg | should work |
| 14:06.31 | justdust | my box seems to boot faster, but video is still laggy... |
| 14:06.31 | stew | xchg: and "apt-cache dhcp server" should not? |
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| 14:06.43 | stew | azreal: from any, read the install guide |
| 14:06.44 | xchg | stew: unstable here. say nothing |
| 14:06.47 | debiankid | stew apt-cache search appears this |
| 14:06.50 | frbn | hi all |
| 14:06.56 | debiankid | dhcp-client - DHCP Client |
| 14:07.07 | debiankid | dhcpcd - DHCP client for automatically configuring IPv4 networking. |
| 14:07.15 | xchg | stew: i'm wrong. dhcp-server say nothing. dhcp server says something |
| 14:07.17 | debiankid | d |
| 14:07.32 | debiankid | xchg them ? |
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| 14:07.38 | azreal | stew: k, last time i was messing with it did not work. so, thanx. |
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| 14:07.59 | stew | justdust: what chipset do you have? which driver are you using? |
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| 14:08.09 | xchg | debiankid: nope |
| 14:08.11 | stew | azreal: must have been a long time ago |
| 14:08.24 | xchg | debiankid: dhcp3-server or dhcpd you need |
| 14:08.30 | stew | !info dhcp sarge |
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| 14:08.30 | xchg | not dhcpcd |
| 14:08.32 | dpkg | dhcp: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
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| 14:08.49 | stew | apt-cache search dhcp server should have definately found at least that ^^^^ |
| 14:09.06 | stew | (since dhcp server aree the first two words of the description especially) |
| 14:09.12 | xchg | stew: hm, update -ing issues ? |
| 14:09.25 | stew | no, sarge doens't get new packages |
| 14:09.25 | debiankid | grrr i have to update again my server ? |
| 14:09.26 | azreal | stew: well, it was before sarge release. |
| 14:09.34 | justdust | stew: hehehe, good question, it's a laptop, so I can't just open it up and look, but I believe it's a via chipset... |
| 14:09.47 | frbn | I need a dpkg guru. I juste broke my slink on dec-alpha (libc6 upgrade :\) I can acces the / partition using a rescue system. I would like to restore a minimal system (brute force) but dpkg-deb man page says: "extracting a package to the root directory will not result in a correct installation". Is this right for the base and admin packages ? Is there another way. ps: I can't boot a live cd :] |
| 14:09.47 | stew | justdust: lspci | grep VGA |
| 14:09.49 | xchg | Stereo: strange, strange... |
| 14:09.49 | jetscreamer | lsp... nm |
| 14:09.56 | xchg | blah...stew i meant |
| 14:10.08 | stew | frbn: slink!?! |
| 14:10.13 | frbn | 2.1 |
| 14:10.19 | xchg | why, slink was great :-) |
| 14:10.21 | beardy | frbn: Why are you running slink? |
| 14:10.29 | xchg | good old times... |
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| 14:10.31 | jetscreamer | cuz he can? |
| 14:10.33 | jm_ | frbn: it's typically enough to just extract the libc6 package, you can fix the rest after it boots |
| 14:10.39 | frbn | I just got an alpha station 21164 |
| 14:10.51 | frbn | jm_ : thnx. will try now |
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| 14:10.57 | debiankid | stew i think i have to download the .deb |
| 14:11.08 | stew | debiankid: don't, fix your sources.list |
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| 14:11.19 | debiankid | stew how? |
| 14:11.30 | xchg | debiankid: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:11.36 | stew | debiankid: apt-setup |
| 14:11.37 | xchg | then do apt-get update |
| 14:11.39 | beardy | jetscreamer: Do you think that is a valid reason for doing things? I can do a lot.. |
| 14:12.02 | jetscreamer | beardy: yes, to answer your loaded question... :) |
| 14:12.12 | justdust | stew: via82cxxx ? |
| 14:12.26 | xchg | !info apt-setup sid |
| 14:12.37 | jm_ | frbn: are you upgrading to unstable perhaps? |
| 14:12.41 | stew | xchg: its not in sid |
| 14:12.51 | debiankid | the main stable is not security.debian.org ? |
| 14:12.54 | jetscreamer | slink->sid? |
| 14:12.56 | jetscreamer | omg |
| 14:13.05 | justdust | stew: can I pm you my lspci ? |
| 14:13.07 | xchg | stew: security. is for security updates in stable |
| 14:13.09 | stew | debiankid: no, thats only the security updates, not the entire repository |
| 14:13.13 | beardy | jetscreamer: Nothing to omg over. He does it becuase he can. |
| 14:13.26 | jetscreamer | yes oh wise one |
| 14:13.26 | debiankid | stew well i dont have the entire rep[osity them |
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| 14:13.43 | frbn | jm_, no, I would like to first get a sarge and then I will see... |
| 14:13.49 | stew | justdust: use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 14:13.50 | xchg | debiankid: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib |
| 14:13.55 | xchg | for example |
| 14:14.09 | xdr | anyone know how to change UI language for firefox? |
| 14:14.09 | jm_ | frbn: skipping a version during dist-upgrade is not supported, that's why people run into such issues |
| 14:14.24 | beardy | frbn: Is it only possible to isntall slink on that machine, or did you get it with slink installed on it? |
| 14:14.47 | debiankid | xchg aja? |
| 14:14.52 | jetscreamer | !beardy++ |
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| 14:15.07 | xchg | debiankid: it was example repository line aimed to be in sources.list |
| 14:15.09 | frbn | i got it with a badly installed slink. kernel 2.0.36 :\ |
| 14:15.31 | debiankid | xchg ok |
| 14:15.42 | user__ | 2.0.36? :D |
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| 14:16.03 | debiankid | xchg heheh i have only on my list security.debian.org |
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| 14:16.13 | xchg | debhelper: it explains everything |
| 14:16.18 | justdust | stew: ok, pasted it, where do I find it back ? |
| 14:16.20 | stew | debiankid: just run apt-setup already |
| 14:16.20 | debiankid | ok |
| 14:16.24 | user__ | xdr there are packages with language files, apt-cache search firefox will find them |
| 14:16.27 | beardy | frbn: And it's not possible/to much trouble to install sarge on it instead? Upgrading can perhaps work too of course.. |
| 14:16.28 | stew | justdust: put the url here |
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| 14:16.44 | justdust | sorry, I'm a moron, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1541. |
| 14:16.51 | infoB | can anyone help with DICT UTF-8 issue? |
| 14:17.34 | stew | justdust: its a savage, what driver did you choose in x? |
| 14:17.39 | xdr | user__: sorry, was in the wrong channel gentoo user |
| 14:17.45 | debiankid | stew thanks my friend |
| 14:17.46 | justdust | stew: uh ? |
| 14:17.47 | beardy | infoB: You have to state your problem that you have with it, is as much useful detail as you can. |
| 14:17.50 | debiankid | stew im udtating now |
| 14:17.54 | justdust | stew: autodetect... |
| 14:17.57 | beardy | s/is/in/ |
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| 14:18.06 | gypsymauro | hello |
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| 14:18.50 | infoB | beardy, 1) i don't now how to input german characters in xterm and 2) german characters are not displayed correctly. |
| 14:19.12 | stew | justdust: put your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 into the pastebin |
| 14:19.20 | ncp | looking for a guide on how to set up a trafik shaper, anybody know any good ones? |
| 14:19.23 | justdust | okidoki... |
| 14:19.29 | stew | ncp: apt-cache show wondershaper |
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| 14:19.49 | ncp | stew: thanks |
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| 14:20.05 | frbn | beardy, I can't boot the install (MILO no more supported :\ ) |
| 14:20.16 | gypsymauro | I'm using xvfb to run openoffice as server at startup with a script in /etc/init.d, if I launch the program by hand it works, but if I let init program to load it automatically it doesn't works, I mean if I login as root and I run manually /etc/init.d/myservice start, then I can see my program working |
| 14:20.26 | xchg | infoB: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/xterm.html |
| 14:20.43 | beardy | frbn: Ok |
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| 14:20.55 | gypsymauro | if instead I reboot the machine it doesn't works I can see with ps that the process is up but not binds the tcp port.. what's the difference? maybe the init doesn't logins the user? |
| 14:21.01 | frbn | Is it a good idea to dpkg-deb -x on the partition for all the .deb found on the sarge-netinst ? |
| 14:21.09 | beardy | infoB: "/msg dpkg locales" perhaps? |
| 14:22.02 | beardy | frbn: MILO? |
| 14:22.12 | frbn | lilo for alpha |
| 14:22.28 | frbn | dont ask me more, I just discover it yesterday |
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| 14:23.08 | fireba11 | anyone ever tried to switch a "normal" installation to software raid afterwards ? |
| 14:23.16 | justdust | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1542. |
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| 14:23.40 | beardy | frbn: Can an alpha boot from floppies? Or, can you do a debootstrap install perhaps? (I've never owned/touched an alpha.) |
| 14:24.06 | junix|work | ok every time i use a kernel that is greater than 2.6.7 my pc locks up over night....i'm using a IBM ThinkCentre |
| 14:24.12 | tarzeau | beardy: network boot/install? |
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| 14:24.27 | frbn | debootstrap claims he needs libc6. I didn't try to boot on the floppy. |
| 14:24.29 | tarzeau | beardy: i've got some notes about mine at www.linuks.mine.nu/alpha/ |
| 14:25.17 | stew | justdust: that all looks fine to me |
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| 14:26.13 | fhd | sorry if it does not belong here, but do you know a channel where I can ask about developing pam applications? |
| 14:26.18 | frbn | tarzeau: I don't have SRM, it's ARCOS. :\ |
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| 14:26.59 | tarzeau | fhd: #c ? |
| 14:27.18 | fhd | tarzeau: I'll try |
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| 14:27.20 | beardy | tarzeau: Thanks. I'll have a look. |
| 14:27.21 | justdust | stew: I have a little problem on the side... I can't type special characters in KDE, like the pipeline and square brackets, I'm using a belgian keyboard... |
| 14:28.10 | stew | justdust: you might try xkeycaps and/or xmodmap to remap some of the keys |
| 14:28.17 | xchg | frbn: sorry, i didn't followed the thread. my question would be - does networking works on alpha right now ? |
| 14:28.24 | usn_work | Can somebody recommend a free linux file system for a shared media, but not ocfs/ocfs2? |
| 14:28.29 | deeLer | in which package can i find the 'lp' command ? |
| 14:28.32 | frbn | yes. |
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| 14:28.40 | frbn | I put a 3com in it |
| 14:28.44 | Myon | !keymap |
| 14:28.44 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 14:29.11 | stew | deeLer: /msg dpkg apt-file ; and then run apt-file bin/lp |
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| 14:29.22 | justdust | stew: I had the same problem in gnome, it got solved with "gdmkbxm be" in console... |
| 14:29.34 | justdust | or something like that... |
| 14:29.51 | xchg | frbn: so you can reach internet from it ? |
| 14:29.57 | frbn | yes I can |
| 14:30.10 | xchg | frbn: wait, i'll look at bookmarks for some slink repositories |
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| 14:31.00 | frbn | thnx |
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| 14:31.45 | xchg | frbn: deb-src http://ftp.45.free.net/debian slink local updates nas |
| 14:31.48 | justdust | !dpkg belgian keyboards... |
| 14:32.12 | xchg | frbn: there's also binary too, but it's x86 |
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| 14:32.31 | xchg | frbn: so i guess you have do grab the source packages and compile them |
| 14:32.37 | botsy_ | i have a problem when i recompil my kernel ... the pastebin http://pastebin.com/502355 |
| 14:32.39 | stew | without libc6? |
| 14:32.41 | botsy_ | please help me |
| 14:33.00 | xchg | stew: is it missing ? |
| 14:33.01 | justdust | how about 3D acceleration, how do I cope with that ? |
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| 14:35.00 | stew | xchg: aparantly its broken |
| 14:35.07 | botsy_ | no .... |
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| 14:35.32 | justdust | when I configured my wifi, I think I gave in the wrong DNS server, so when I ask for a webpage it takes 15 seconds to load the page, where can I change that ? |
| 14:35.34 | stew | botsy_: which gcc are you using? |
| 14:35.37 | frbn | stew, not at all, I can boot on the same machine, on another disk. |
| 14:35.43 | stew | justdust: man resolv.conf |
| 14:35.46 | xchg | frbn: http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ |
| 14:35.46 | botsy_ | gcc 2.95 |
| 14:35.50 | justdust | thx |
| 14:36.00 | xchg | frbn: there're older debian releases |
| 14:36.09 | xchg | frbn: containing slink/alpha too |
| 14:36.44 | xchg | frbn: just form your sources.list (or apt.sources, don't remember for slink ) and update/upgrade |
| 14:36.51 | debiankid | wifi? mmmmm |
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| 14:37.43 | frbn | xchg: thanks |
| 14:37.52 | xchg | frbn: you're welcome |
| 14:38.03 | xchg | http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-2.1/main/binary-alpha/ |
| 14:38.04 | xchg | btw |
| 14:38.06 | ncp | stew: wondershaper is a easy setup trafikshaper, do you know one with a bit more options, cause i would like to set it up my way :) |
| 14:38.20 | frbn | beardy, thanks |
| 14:38.28 | botsy_ | what's content the rep /usr/src/linux/hpc ? |
| 14:38.44 | beardy | frbn: You're welcome. (for what? :) ) |
| 14:38.47 | stew | ncp: i don't know. you could always alter wondershaper to your needs |
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| 14:39.08 | diana | I click on http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/flashblock-1.3.3.xpi with firefox...and it pops up my "Extensions" window and it does nothing. |
| 14:39.15 | norskfjord | I have a question about eggdrop... When I do, apt-get install eggdrop, there is no config file |
| 14:39.15 | jvw | diana: try 'enable board yes'? |
| 14:39.18 | norskfjord | to edit |
| 14:39.22 | diana | How do I install flashblock? |
| 14:39.27 | diana | jvw: yea I got that, heh |
| 14:39.36 | stew | norskfjord: did you previously have it installed? |
| 14:39.42 | stew | norskfjord: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 14:39.49 | justdust | stew: so I editted resolv.conf, should I restart something before changes take effect ? |
| 14:39.50 | jm_ | nork;also read /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/README.Debian |
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| 14:39.57 | stew | justdust: just edit |
| 14:39.58 | diana | I wanted to see if I could figure out how to setup a board and customize all the styles and stuff...and once i figured it out I realized I have no reason to make a board I have nothing to talk about. |
| 14:39.59 | davis | hello |
| 14:40.00 | frbn | beardy: I thought u helped me... nop. |
| 14:40.02 | justdust | thx |
| 14:40.10 | ncp | stew: thougt about that, but if is limitede options i dont see the point... but gonna check it out, could be it will do it |
| 14:40.13 | skript | how can I change default font sizes for apps that use X11 (like xchm) ? is there a something like x11-control-center ? |
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| 14:40.36 | norskfjord | $ msg dpkg confmiss |
| 14:40.37 | norskfjord | -bash: msg: command not found |
| 14:40.44 | stew | !tell norskfjord about confmiss |
| 14:40.50 | diana | !tell norskfjord about msddpkg |
| 14:40.53 | diana | !tell norskfjord about msgdpkg |
| 14:41.15 | beardy | frbn: I tried to :) |
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| 14:41.38 | justdust | stew: no, It still takes an awfull long time to load the pages... |
| 14:41.41 | davis | i am having a problem with apt-get dist-upgrade which I have not seen before. When it completes downloading a package, it gets stuck downloading the next package. It simply says "Waiting for headers" and it needs to be restarted before it will resume downloading packages. I tried restarting networking ,but it did not fix the pro blem. |
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| 14:42.27 | fireba11 | davis your mirror is freaking slow ... |
| 14:42.48 | davis | ok. thanks. |
| 14:42.49 | fireba11 | davis: how long did you wait ? |
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| 14:42.59 | davis | a couple of minutes. |
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| 14:43.08 | davis | i should get a new one. let mt try that. |
| 14:43.10 | fireba11 | davis: try another mirror |
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| 14:43.45 | stew | justdust: maybe your browser needs a restart. running "host domain.com" from the command line will give you an indication of how long dns queries are taking |
| 14:43.45 | beardy | frbn: So, what are you going to try? To upgrade, or to reinstall, in some way? |
| 14:44.04 | justdust | thx |
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| 14:46.03 | xchg | dvm1981: any progress so ? :-) |
| 14:46.15 | dvm1981 | I have some troubles to set up xinerama. When arrived to the secto 4 of the HOW TO. I must by do the command 'X -configure' with the root user in the cli but this give and error. I look in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log but i not understand |
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| 14:46.43 | fireba11 | anyone ever tried to set up software raid on a running system ? will that work without long downtime ? |
| 14:46.52 | xchg | dvm1981: pastebin ? |
| 14:47.19 | noid | fireba11: it is possible, yes |
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| 14:47.40 | dvm1981 | xchg : I would like first (quick if possible or go to the upgrade phase) troubleshout my dualscreen that can help my for vmware |
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| 14:48.04 | xchg | dvm1981: i meant could you pastebin your X log ? :-) |
| 14:48.14 | stew | dvm1981: don't bother with X -configure, you already have a working X |
| 14:48.16 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yep ;-) |
| 14:48.51 | fireba11 | noid: was pretty sure it was possible .. question is is it hard to do, the system is productive, so i need to do it without a long downtime and it shoulnd't be TOO complicated compared to setting up at install |
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| 14:49.27 | dvm1981 | stew : right, so little bit farder, i continue then, thx, probably i must quit the irc here for the procedure of the HOWTO, i and you will see .... |
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| 14:50.24 | noid | fireba11: well, it depends on what you need to do, and i was assuming that you have raid support in your kernel |
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| 14:50.32 | dvm1981 | I not find the paste url in my bookmarks |
| 14:50.54 | xchg | pastebin.com |
| 14:51.00 | dvm1981 | i need to reorganize it because there are so muchs interesting things... |
| 14:51.17 | noid | noid: if you have it, it should be a matter of a few commands to create the volumes and mount them |
| 14:51.35 | noid | fireba11: that was meant for you |
| 14:51.37 | fireba11 | noid: it's a fresh sarge install .. just had to restore a service on it really quick and needed the old data, so i did set up without raid ... got only one partition, i want to mirror that |
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| 14:52.29 | davis | hmm. I tried a differnet mirror and I am getting the same problem. it is hanging "waiting for headers" |
| 14:52.35 | dvm1981 | How i can copy a lots of text in a consol to pate it to pastebin ? I can not copy text lower than what i see in the consol. |
| 14:53.01 | dvm1981 | But its possible to open Korqueror, but someone a tip ? |
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| 14:53.03 | xchg | copy a first portion, paste, scroll, copy a second..etc.. |
| 14:53.08 | bigup | hi all :) |
| 14:53.18 | xchg | but it'll be enough if you only paste last several lines |
| 14:53.18 | fireba11 | davis: network is working fine ? |
| 14:53.20 | xchg | hi |
| 14:53.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: Looking for a nice command ;-) |
| 14:53.43 | davis | netowkr seems to be working fine. |
| 14:53.54 | fireba11 | noid: sounds good ... you know a good how-to for that ? only used d-i so far to set it up |
| 14:54.04 | stew | dvm1981: use screen |
| 14:54.05 | xchg | dvm1981: hm, you say something. there's a NEED for utility like cat something > /dev/clipboard :-) |
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| 14:54.44 | noid | fireba11: my raid specific knowledge doesn't go that far, i think there is a raid howto as you www.google.com/linux it |
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| 14:54.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, yes, on the rigth way, just i must by understand how to, i try |
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| 14:55.28 | davis | i changed mirrors and now i get - Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) |
| 14:55.30 | yacc | Just wondering, what filesystems are sensible for a 3TB fileserver? |
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| 14:55.38 | inetd | show your desktop (links) |
| 14:55.40 | noid | !tell fireba11 about software raid |
| 14:55.47 | inetd | desktop screenshots |
| 14:55.48 | tarzeau | yacc: if you mean good, with sensible, then ufs2 |
| 14:55.48 | oleczek | hi, where can I get old debian potato iso? |
| 14:55.50 | dvm1981 | cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log > /dev/clipboard |
| 14:56.00 | tarzeau | yacc: which you can have with freebsd or debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 14:56.05 | tarzeau | oleczek: oh come on! |
| 14:56.06 | xchg | oleczek: http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ |
| 14:56.24 | tarzeau | oleczek: ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/2.2_r7 |
| 14:56.25 | fireba11 | noid: oh, thanks .. didn't know that one |
| 14:56.26 | xchg | oleczek: 2.2 it is |
| 14:56.29 | oleczek | thanks! |
| 14:56.33 | cat | dvm1981: it is bad idea to call myself cat :( |
| 14:56.33 | xchg | np |
| 14:56.37 | noid | fireba11: np |
| 14:56.45 | yacc | tarzeau: I'd need something Linux-ish ;) |
| 14:56.48 | tarzeau | cat: try tac |
| 14:56.49 | oleczek | I have it in my music-box (in pub, playing music for coins :) ) |
| 14:56.55 | tarzeau | yacc: not debian-ish? |
| 14:57.03 | davis | i wonder if it has to do with "install these packages without verification" message? |
| 14:57.04 | dvm1981 | cat: oeps, i try somethings |
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| 14:57.08 | shad0w1e | my remote machine has "gone to sleep" when I "putty" into it, the terminal just sits there.. but doesnt give me any errors, just a blank screen. is there any way to "wake it up" from here? Thanks |
| 14:57.10 | dvm1981 | cat: sorry |
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| 14:57.29 | dvm1981 | xchg: cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log > /dev/clipboard |
| 14:57.31 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: because this is a linux channel? :P |
| 14:57.36 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: no it's not |
| 14:57.41 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: it is a DEBIAN channel |
| 14:57.42 | davis | after I do apt-get update, I get all the packages updated and then I get this message" The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230.... |
| 14:57.47 | tarzeau | for linux, there's #linux of course |
| 14:57.55 | yacc | tarzeau: Well, not debianish. Or say Debian/Linux :) |
| 14:57.56 | davis | is there a way to disable the key check? |
| 14:58.00 | valdyn | !topicsmite davis |
| 14:58.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon davis. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 14:58.00 | xchg | dvm1981: i said there's _need_ for such ability, not this it exists :-) |
| 14:58.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: That work not, but is there somethings similar, that seems great what i will to use ;-) |
| 14:58.12 | xchg | dvm1981: maybe will do such device at weekend :-) |
| 14:58.13 | stew | tarzeau: do you still have a running debian gnu/kfrebsd machine? |
| 14:58.16 | davis | heh |
| 14:58.17 | tarzeau | there's even a #DEBAIN channel for DEBAIN stuff |
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| 14:58.28 | tarzeau | stew: of course. gnu.ethz.ch is one, got another, and one more :) |
| 14:58.30 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) |
| 14:58.30 | oleczek | thanks, bye! |
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| 14:58.59 | tarzeau | stew: wait you DON'T have a debian gnu/kfreebsd machine? |
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| 14:59.16 | stew | tarzeau: i haven't gotten to it yet and just lost 2 machines, so i'm short on boxes now |
| 14:59.27 | eis_os | Hello |
| 14:59.28 | tarzeau | stew: you heard about dualboot? |
| 14:59.40 | stew | nope |
| 14:59.57 | xchg | dvm1981: got success |
| 15:00.03 | xchg | dvm1981: xclip ! |
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| 15:00.31 | eis_os | Whats the best way under a debian to have that php-scripts doesn't use the apache user but the owner of the virtual hosts? |
| 15:00.39 | dvm1981 | xchg: I must look for package xclip ? |
| 15:00.53 | xchg | dvm1981: apt-get install xclip |
| 15:00.58 | diana | How can I make my firefox from debian/testing only look in ~/.mozilla for program preferences...and not look in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox |
| 15:01.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: doing ;-) |
| 15:01.12 | davis | thanks for the topicsmite |
| 15:01.23 | xchg | dvm1981: xclip -i /var/log/XFree.0.log |
| 15:01.35 | davis | that fixes the gpg key lookup but I still have a Wating for headers problem. |
| 15:01.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) ;-) ;-) |
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| 15:02.48 | xchg | dvm1981: or cat blabla |xclip |
| 15:03.12 | dvm1981 | xchg: The first not work ? i tested, i do but paste |
| 15:03.15 | eis_os | via fastcgi, suexec, suphp? su_php/suexec seems to be very res hungry, and about fastcgi, I haven't found a proper documentation for vhosts |
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| 15:03.30 | xchg | dvm1981: working here |
| 15:03.36 | davis | hmm. i switched from a http based server to a ftp server and viola the problem is solved! |
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| 15:03.47 | tarzeau | !viola |
| 15:03.47 | dpkg | from memory, viola is a string instrument, related to the violin but slightly larger. It is *not* the French word for "there it is". |
| 15:04.00 | tarzeau | davis: you also play guitar? |
| 15:04.02 | davis | lol |
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| 15:04.32 | davis | hmm. i switched from a http based server to a ftp server and wahla the problem is solved! |
| 15:04.37 | davis | 8-) |
| 15:04.40 | tarzeau | !wahla |
| 15:04.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: There are some troubles here, it not work, euhm i have do tested these two commands above, no error but when i paste there are nothings |
| 15:05.38 | xchg | dvm1981: paste by middle mousebutton |
| 15:05.50 | xchg | dvm1981: it will invoke X clipboard, not WM one |
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| 15:06.09 | dvm1981 | So but these info are now im my logs and i will test i a virtual pc ;-) Before i would like to setup my two monitors in two parts one for VMWare and another to work on other things |
| 15:06.10 | R_engel | hello my problem is: I create local repositoy, create Release Package and Package.gz, how me create Release.gpg and how add key to all ? |
| 15:06.28 | dvm1981 | xchg: Bingo :-) |
| 15:06.36 | metho | jm_: how do i create/setup professional site so people can access it from anywhere |
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| 15:06.42 | dvm1981 | xchg: Its works now ;-) |
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| 15:06.43 | dbi | R_engel: ever tried reprepro? It does all this |
| 15:06.45 | metho | how do i create/setup professional site so people can access it from anywhere |
| 15:06.49 | xchg | dvm1981: cool :) |
| 15:07.00 | dvm1981 | xchg: You are a king man ;-) |
| 15:07.24 | justdust | when I wget or host google at the command line, everything's fine, but when I ask for a page in firefox, it takes 15 seconds, wth is wrong ??? |
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| 15:07.25 | xchg | dvm1981: nope. i didn't knew xclip is existing even :-) |
| 15:07.33 | xchg | dvm1981: just took a google |
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| 15:07.50 | dvm1981 | xchg: i forget contstantly the middle mouse button, because before im was on another M$ OS where his not use it so |
| 15:07.59 | metho | could some1 help me setting up a website on debian |
| 15:08.10 | cat | hi when i run apt-get ,it is wget that downloads the package??? |
| 15:08.14 | melao- | i'm newbie with debian, and I want to know why the list of available packages doesn't have all the packages from sarge during the network installation |
| 15:08.26 | xchg | dvm1981: using linuxes since 1997, but still use ctrl-c/v |
| 15:08.27 | tarzeau | cat: why do you need to know? |
| 15:08.30 | justdust | metho: shot, I'm jno genius, but I managed before... |
| 15:08.31 | dvm1981 | xchg: It's for that, that you are a king ;-) you have search with my for my and find it ... |
| 15:08.35 | xchg | dvm1981: M$ is like a brain-virus |
| 15:08.37 | Shadowcat | melao-: it doesn't? since when? |
| 15:08.37 | justdust | shoot |
| 15:08.43 | justdust | not shot |
| 15:08.48 | tarzeau | xchg: brain virus? |
| 15:08.50 | stew | melao-: what is an example of a missing package? |
| 15:08.58 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i have learn bad things about it ... |
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| 15:09.08 | metho | justdust: how, is there a link that i can use |
| 15:09.15 | metho | justdust: how, is there a link that i can use for a guide |
| 15:09.18 | melao- | well, the package libssl-dev wasn't there during the installation, but after I rebooted the system, aptitude could find it |
| 15:09.34 | cat | if it is wget ,i want to change it to something others |
| 15:09.41 | tarzeau | cat: like curl? |
| 15:09.43 | dvm1981 | xchg: so i poste the pastebin info he, before i finally forget it ;-) |
| 15:09.44 | Shadowcat | melao-: it's in aptitude, you just don't know how to use it |
| 15:09.48 | justdust | metho: try debian apache setup guide in google... |
| 15:09.49 | noid | metho: go to www.apache.org and read the docs on how to set up a web server |
| 15:09.50 | Shadowcat | hint: look at the menus |
| 15:09.56 | melao- | hm |
| 15:09.59 | xchg | dvm1981: cool. and what's the link ? |
| 15:10.05 | melao- | i'll try it again, thanks |
| 15:10.07 | metho | thanks guys |
| 15:10.13 | tarzeau | damn now there is thunderbird 1.5 |
| 15:10.15 | berloc | Hi folks. Anyone done any md5-related programming? I want to use md5sum functions in a program I'm writing and can't quite find where to begin. |
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| 15:10.29 | dvm1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.34 | stew | melao-: in what part of the installation were you looking at package lists? |
| 15:10.35 | tarzeau | berloc: check md5sum source |
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| 15:10.42 | tarzeau | berloc: openssl's got it too |
| 15:10.42 | davis | 1034kB/s gotta love it |
| 15:10.59 | tarzeau | berloc: it's fairly easy, i've done something with lcc-win32 on the other os |
| 15:11.11 | melao- | the one with those options of sets of packages for me to choose, like DNS Server, Mail Server, etc |
| 15:11.15 | dvm1981 | xchg: So continuing to try to setup my dual monitor before trying to migrate to Unstable :-) |
| 15:11.15 | xchg | dvm1981: * DRI initialization failed! * |
| 15:11.19 | justdust | so, quake III is not in apt-cache ? |
| 15:11.22 | melao- | ok, a little bit after that |
| 15:11.26 | xchg | dvm1981: it's why you 3d accel do not work |
| 15:11.36 | melao- | with aptitude |
| 15:11.40 | dvm1981 | xchg: Hoela you understand that all ... ;-0 |
| 15:11.47 | justdust | how do I set up 3D accecl ? |
| 15:11.49 | berloc | tarzeau, By any chance, do you have some code I could recycle that basically checks the md5sum then continues your processing? |
| 15:11.54 | tarzeau | justdust: what graphics card? |
| 15:11.56 | xchg | dvm1981: look, you log is more or less ok |
| 15:12.03 | xchg | dvm1981: i mean there're no critical errors |
| 15:12.04 | justdust | s3 savage |
| 15:12.11 | cat | tarzeau: yeah, or d4x |
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| 15:12.48 | tarzeau | berloc: it's years ago. http://www.cihar.com/gammu/docs/md5_8c-source.html |
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| 15:13.06 | R_engel | dbi,hmm... how do it without use repreppro, how me WRITE create Release.gpg, crypt Release file GPG and add key? |
| 15:13.13 | crevetor | hi, anyone familiar with dfsbuild ? |
| 15:13.21 | tarzeau | crevetor: and then? |
| 15:13.28 | berloc | tarzeau, anywhere to start would be very welcome. Thanks! Been years since I've played with this stuff. |
| 15:13.30 | diana | !tell crevetor about anyone |
| 15:13.43 | tarzeau | berloc: the url i gave you has all you need |
| 15:13.52 | tarzeau | berloc: you know C, don't you? |
| 15:13.52 | dbi | R_engel: I guess you gan run gpg --sign --ascii < Release > Release.gpg or something like this |
| 15:14.04 | justdust | so no QIII nor ET in ap-cache, what kind of distro is this... ;-) |
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| 15:14.17 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok i continueing to try to get it working. |
| 15:14.29 | justdust | I bat nethack's there... |
| 15:14.41 | justdust | see... |
| 15:14.44 | crevetor | dfsbuild fails (well apt-move fails actually) because one path doesn't exist, here's the output : cd: 1867: can't cd to /mnt/antoine/debian-sam/target/var/lib/apt/lists |
| 15:15.00 | berloc | tarzeau, Yes, at least once upon a time I did. :) Feels like wiping away cobwebs trying to get my mind back into that mode. Thanks! Looks like I should be able to work with what you sent. |
| 15:15.01 | mere | looks like libcapi20-dev is missing from testing repositories.. what do i do, get from stable? |
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| 15:15.17 | crevetor | bugs have been opened and closed on that particular subject but it still doesn't work |
| 15:15.24 | stew | dvm1981: xinerama is still not working? |
| 15:15.30 | tarzeau | justdust: nobody forces you to use this distro |
| 15:16.06 | justdust | just joking tarzeau ... |
| 15:16.17 | tarzeau | justdust: tried gnurobbo yet? |
| 15:16.25 | justdust | what's that ? |
| 15:16.36 | tarzeau | justdust: like QIII but works without 3d |
| 15:16.56 | inetd | how do i search which pkg provide a certain file? |
| 15:16.59 | justdust | :-) |
| 15:17.03 | dvm1981 | stew : I read the info you have provided to my, having some troubles with 'X -configure' but seems not important, so continue, I have learned some trick by the way, this i have not loose time ;-) |
| 15:17.05 | tarzeau | inetd: on packages.debian.org if it works |
| 15:17.08 | stew | inetd: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:17.10 | justdust | like QIII with punchcards ? |
| 15:17.19 | dvm1981 | stew : thx for that info you give |
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| 15:18.07 | Drizzt_ | where can i find a debian sid dvd iso? |
| 15:18.08 | justdust | I really could use a hint on how to get 3D stuff working on my S3 savage card... |
| 15:18.10 | mere | is it allright to get a package from a stable release and install on testing, since there's no candidate at the testing repositories? |
| 15:18.23 | R_engel | dbi, how people download from repository, add key ? or this not do ? |
| 15:18.48 | xchg | justdust: stable or unstable ? |
| 15:18.54 | dvm1981 | B.T.W. 'xclip' can be verry usefull 'xchg' have found it for my but i can be verry usefull for manny users, search to learn more about it. |
| 15:19.01 | justdust | uh, stable I guess... |
| 15:19.13 | bibe | Drizzt_ : http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#unofficial |
| 15:19.13 | dbi | R_engel: people add a line in their sources.list. to add your key to their apt's keyring they use apt-key |
| 15:19.14 | justdust | xchg: I did a net install... |
| 15:19.17 | xchg | dvm1981: agree |
| 15:19.18 | stew | justdust: does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say Yes or No |
| 15:19.27 | justdust | hold on... |
| 15:19.34 | noid | mere: it is ok, most of the time |
| 15:19.35 | inetd | stew: cheers |
| 15:19.40 | dvm1981 | xchg : How many time a had need so such tool, so really thankx |
| 15:19.46 | mere | ooh.. okay, thanks noid :) |
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| 15:19.50 | xchg | justdust: modprobe savage and enable DRM |
| 15:19.57 | Drizzt_ | bibe tnx |
| 15:19.58 | R_engel | dbi, how do it automaticall ? this is real ? =) |
| 15:20.09 | xchg | dvm1981: you're welcome, thanx to the author of tool |
| 15:20.15 | Knight_Lord | If i cat a file on a device, and then corrupt the device, is it possible that when reading the file again (with cat), it will read the file from cache instead of the device (and by doing so not finding the corruption)? |
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| 15:20.21 | Wharf | Hi there |
| 15:20.21 | dvm1981 | xchg : So i use i and test it now, but i must by continue ;-) |
| 15:20.22 | dbi | R_engel: which part do you want to automate? |
| 15:20.24 | Wharf | How do i run ssh |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | stew: alien:/home/justdust# glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 15:20.26 | justdust | Error: unable to open display (null) |
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| 15:20.56 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, thats right also thankx to you because you have find it for my :-0 |
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| 15:21.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: So no i must by take time to eate some things. He he spahetti hhhmmm, so i take a pause. thx for the help he |
| 15:22.17 | xchg | dvm1981: same here. and stop thanking me for every breath :-) you're welcome |
| 15:22.18 | R_engel | dbi, add's key. |
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| 15:22.46 | stew | justdust: you have to do it as the user that started X |
| 15:22.52 | stew | !tell justdust about flood |
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| 15:23.31 | dbi | R_engel: write a script - to generate Packages, Release and sing them. Or, use reprepro to all this for you |
| 15:23.39 | Wharf | How do i run ssh |
| 15:23.43 | justdust | wow, got serious boot for that... |
| 15:23.44 | Wharf | on debian |
| 15:23.44 | dbi | R_engel: s/sing/sign/ |
| 15:23.44 | diana | I have irssi open with screen in my virtual terminal 2...how can I move it to another terminal...I have xterm open in virtual terminal 7(fluxbox)...what do I type in xterm to take this irssi window I am talking in from vt2 to vt7(fluxbox) |
| 15:23.47 | justdust | sorry |
| 15:23.54 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, that right, but people needs to receive at leaste the thx when his give a service, and you give a good :-) |
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| 15:24.02 | Wharf | Please |
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| 15:24.13 | dbi | Wharf: tried apt-get install openssh-server? |
| 15:24.19 | justdust | Did anyone reply to my 3D accel question, couldn't read, got kicked... |
| 15:24.24 | xchg | Wharf: ssh server or ssh client ? |
| 15:24.25 | R_engel | dbi, ok, thx. |
| 15:24.45 | xchg | Wharf: apt-get openssh-server in server case |
| 15:24.52 | xchg | Wharf: apt-get ssh if you just need a client |
| 15:24.54 | R_engel | dbi, my English is terible. =) |
| 15:24.57 | stew | diana: "screen -ls" to list screens, "screen -r screennum" or "screen -r screenname" on a detached screen, or use screen -x to share it (if it is already attached), you can "ctrl-a d" to detach from the screen |
| 15:25.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: Sometimes the people not receive the things what he needs, so ho helping with some other things ... |
| 15:25.11 | Wharf | I have a client |
| 15:25.15 | Wharf | duno how to start it |
| 15:25.19 | dbi | R_engel: good enough :) |
| 15:25.23 | Wharf | or what dir it's in |
| 15:25.38 | dbi | justdust: any hints in X's log and/or dmesg? |
| 15:25.41 | xchg | dvm1981: i'm just enjoying to help :-) so no thanx needed |
| 15:25.51 | noid | Wharf: usually you do 'slogin foo@bar' |
| 15:25.52 | xchg | Wharf: ssh -l <user> <host> |
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| 15:26.02 | Wharf | Na |
| 15:26.14 | Wharf | I wanted to run ssh on my server, not connect to someone |
| 15:26.26 | Wharf | Like so i can access my server from another pc |
| 15:26.26 | justdust | dbi: I don't even know what or where those are... |
| 15:26.30 | dvm1981 | There are really great peoples here :-) |
| 15:26.33 | xchg | Wharf: then apt-get install openssh-server |
| 15:26.42 | Wharf | I have a serve |
| 15:26.45 | Wharf | server |
| 15:26.49 | Wharf | ssh one |
| 15:26.52 | stew | Wharf: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 15:27.02 | noid | Wharf: /etc/init.d/ssh start then, after installing ssh package and saying yes to run the service |
| 15:27.03 | Wharf | it finds ssh in that dir |
| 15:27.07 | dbi | justdust: X's log is in /var/log/X<something>.log ; dmesg|tail is the end of kernel messages |
| 15:27.29 | Wharf | It dont have restart there |
| 15:27.34 | Wharf | just ssh on it's own |
| 15:27.53 | justdust | dbi: homd on, I'll try to find out... |
| 15:27.59 | noid | Wharf: it will work, it's a parameter |
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| 15:28.25 | Wharf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.55 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.01 | Wharf | I did |
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| 15:29.06 | Wharf | can you try conect |
| 15:29.12 | Wharf | incase it's already running |
| 15:29.20 | Wharf | it's contraplan.plus.com |
| 15:29.21 | stew | Wharf: what did you type that gave you "ssh: restart: Name or service unknown" ? |
| 15:29.28 | xchg | ps ax|grep ssh OR cat /etc/inetd.conf | grep ssh |
| 15:29.44 | Wharf | I went to the dir you said, then said ssh restart |
| 15:29.50 | xchg | does it say anything ? |
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| 15:30.00 | kspath | wharf: uname -a |
| 15:30.02 | Wharf | What i just pasted here |
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| 15:30.10 | justdust | dbi: XFree86's log has no errors... |
| 15:30.11 | stew | Wharf: type exactly this: "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" |
| 15:30.31 | deibyd | Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. |
| 15:30.46 | Wharf | Bingo! |
| 15:30.48 | stew | justdust: does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say Yes or No |
| 15:30.49 | Wharf | thanks |
| 15:30.49 | dbi | justdust: did you checket all of it? it is usually rather large... |
| 15:30.53 | Silent_al | what the command to only download pkgs with apt-get? ive tried 'sudo apt-get -d <pkg name> with no success .. |
| 15:30.54 | Wharf | brb |
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| 15:31.12 | frbn | Silent_al, option -d |
| 15:31.13 | stew | Silent_al: apt-get -d install pkgname |
| 15:31.22 | justdust | dbi: Error lines start with EE right, well I couldn't find one... |
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| 15:31.37 | deibyd | i have this message: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 15:31.37 | deibyd | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 15:31.37 | deibyd | Error: unable to open display (null) |
| 15:31.40 | kspath | someone that just discovered ssh? |
| 15:31.40 | Silent_al | stew , tried that aswwll. it asks me to install the pkgs |
| 15:31.49 | Silent_al | aswell* |
| 15:31.50 | deibyd | and i don't know what to do |
| 15:31.54 | R_engel | .udeb - ubuntu package ? |
| 15:31.54 | stew | Silent_al: yes, but it won't actually install it |
| 15:32.09 | stew | deibyd: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie ; /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 15:32.14 | stew | !udeb |
| 15:32.14 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 15:32.17 | justdust | dbi: and dmesg doesn't say anything about X or S3 card... |
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| 15:32.58 | deibyd | i run this stuff how root |
| 15:33.00 | dbi | justdust: did you upgrade recently? This error is possible if you just upgraded xlibs without restarting X session |
| 15:33.02 | Silent_al | stew, ok , treid it , but this time it asks me to install additional pkgs :\ |
| 15:33.09 | stew | !tell deibyd about run stuff as root |
| 15:33.13 | deibyd | but, i run this commando "cp .Xauthority ~/." |
| 15:33.16 | Silent_al | frbn, option -d didnt work either |
| 15:33.19 | stew | !tell deibyd about mit-magic-cookie |
| 15:33.38 | stew | Silent_al: it won't actually install additional packages |
| 15:33.47 | justdust | dbi: I just upgraded 15 minutes ago, and didn't restart KDM, how do I do that without rebooting ? |
| 15:33.51 | norskfjord | how to unzip .gz ? |
| 15:34.05 | xchg | norskfjord: gunzip <file> |
| 15:34.37 | Silent_al | stewk, thanx i'll try , after downloading , where can i find the pkgs i wanted ? |
| 15:34.49 | stew | justdust: you are just trying to get 3d working? |
| 15:35.03 | justdust | stew: yes... |
| 15:35.14 | stew | justdust: how did you determine it wasn't working? |
| 15:35.30 | justdust | I guessed... |
| 15:36.00 | stew | justdust: i've twice given you a command that would tell you for sure |
| 15:36.05 | justdust | It didn't give me a hard time, so it's surely broken... |
| 15:36.05 | jetscreamer | tar xvzf blah.gz |
| 15:36.18 | bibe | justdust : CTRL+ALT+backspace or, more softly, CTRL+ALT+F1, login and /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
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| 15:36.23 | justdust | the glxinfo thing ? |
| 15:36.23 | frbn | jetscreamer, ? gzip -d is anough |
| 15:36.37 | justdust | stew: glxinfo ? |
| 15:36.38 | jetscreamer | whatever works |
| 15:36.41 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 15:36.49 | diana | stew: screen -x works...but I don't want to share it...I want to move it to here. |
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| 15:36.56 | justdust | stew: that returns an error... |
| 15:36.59 | stew | diana: -D -r |
| 15:37.02 | frbn | jetscreamer, really. not sure that tar can handle gzipped files... |
| 15:37.02 | diana | There is a screen on: 11786.tty2.cookooland (Attached) |
| 15:37.02 | diana | 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-diana. |
| 15:37.09 | justdust | stew: couldn't open display or someting... |
| 15:37.13 | diana | cool, thanks stew |
| 15:37.18 | jetscreamer | frbn: i am, or i would have not typed it in public :) |
| 15:37.26 | stew | justdust: yeah, as i said before, you need to run it as the user that started x |
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| 15:38.08 | justdust | stew: ok, there's only 2 users, so it should be the other one... |
| 15:38.12 | justdust | hold on... |
| 15:38.20 | smacnay | Is there a process, when using hotplug, to add and remove usb devices without locking up the 'lsusb' command? |
| 15:39.00 | frbn | jetscreamer, tar xvzf plop.gz |
| 15:39.05 | frbn | tar: Read 5 bytes from plop.gz |
| 15:39.12 | frbn | ls |
| 15:39.14 | frbn | plop.gz |
| 15:39.22 | justdust | stew: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
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| 15:39.49 | tarzeau | it's choosing and not chosing, right? |
| 15:40.07 | xchg | stew: probally DRI is not enabled in X |
| 15:40.49 | xchg | justdust: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep dri |
| 15:40.56 | xchg | justdust: does it output anything ? |
| 15:40.57 | justdust | ok... |
| 15:41.06 | bibe | frbn : try gunzip plop.gz |
| 15:41.07 | tarzeau | no language nazis here? |
| 15:41.21 | cahoot | tarzeau: dict says so |
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| 15:42.12 | justdust | xchg: unknown file... |
| 15:42.28 | R_engel | for Extracting files exisiten only unrar-free ? |
| 15:42.40 | xchg | justdust: erm... and cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 15:42.54 | justdust | that one exists, hold on... |
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| 15:43.09 | illsci | whats the debian ssl'd apache deb called |
| 15:43.16 | illsci | for apache2 |
| 15:43.26 | xchg | justdust: anyway, i pasted a workable config to http://pastebin.com/502488 , take a look at this |
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| 15:43.46 | junix|work | ok i need to compile kernel-2.6.7 |
| 15:43.51 | xchg | justdust: especially at line 37, 41 and 125-127 |
| 15:43.53 | illsci | in /etc/apache2/ssl I dont have anything in here.... |
| 15:43.57 | junix|work | my computer locks up on anything higher.... |
| 15:43.59 | xchg | justdust: and compare with your file |
| 15:44.16 | cahoot | xchg: you know you can grep the file directly, skipping the cat and | |
| 15:44.16 | justdust | xchg: it says: load "dri"... that's all... |
| 15:45.00 | xchg | cahoot: i know :-) but usually i use cat |grep , hell knows why :-)) |
| 15:45.34 | eentzel | illsci: ssl is included in the apache2 package, I think -- /etc/apache2/ssl is just there for you to store your host keys |
| 15:45.35 | stew | there are a bunch of potential jokes there |
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| 15:45.53 | xchg | justdust: i wrote several lines before, please follow to http://pastebin.com/502488 |
| 15:46.03 | illsci | eentzel: do i have to create all the keys myself .... I am just used to redhat and a ssl.conf |
| 15:46.05 | xchg | justdust: and take a comparsion with yourconfig |
| 15:46.08 | justdust | xchg: thx |
| 15:46.11 | xchg | np |
| 15:46.17 | illsci | eentzel: is there no ssl.conf thats all in apache2.conf or something |
| 15:46.37 | fireba11 | someone can tell me if creating a raid1 on a live / will work without killing my debian ? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.1 gives the impression it will get wiped.. ? |
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| 15:46.56 | eentzel | illsci: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default.conf I believe |
| 15:47.00 | bibe | hi all. I wrote a simple script to turn on/off the "wireless led" of my notebook, echoing 1 or 0 to /proc/acpi/asus/wled. The script works fine, but I'd like to check whether $IFACE is wireless or not in a better way than IS_WIRELESS=$(/sbin/iwconfig $IFACE 2>/dev/null |grep ^$IFACE |wc -l) |
| 15:47.02 | illsci | ls |
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| 15:47.29 | xchg | btw, an interesting question, there's int10 module for X |
| 15:47.35 | xchg | what it's supposed to do ? |
| 15:47.41 | xchg | dealing with BIOS modes ??? |
| 15:47.50 | stew | fireba11: this link gives a good overview about how to make a raid1 from a running system: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
| 15:48.10 | stew | fireba11: basically you create a degraded raid1, copy files to it, reboot and mirror it |
| 15:48.13 | justdust | xchg: where is this xorg.conf file supposed to be ? |
| 15:48.23 | bibe | bibe : in older kernels, I used /proc/sys/net/$IFACE/wireless, but this pseudo file doesn't exist anymore (kernel 2.6.15) |
| 15:48.23 | Knight_Lord | How can i check the exit status of a command inside an if in csh? |
| 15:48.26 | jetscreamer | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:48.27 | illsci | No there is nothing about ssl in there |
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| 15:48.34 | xchg | justdust: /etc/X11/ but...you're using XFree, not XOrg |
| 15:48.37 | fireba11 | stew ohh .. great ..that was what i was searching .. list that link a while ago |
| 15:48.42 | Knight_Lord | I'm trying if ( cmp /dev/md5 ~/md5 ) then but that doesn't seem to work |
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| 15:48.46 | jetscreamer | same dir as in xfree86 |
| 15:49.02 | eentzel | illsci: not by default, you have to add the directives you want |
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| 15:49.06 | justdust | xchg: so I compare your xorg to my xfree ? :-) |
| 15:49.24 | xchg | justdust: compare the logic inside, not the files :-) |
| 15:49.25 | jetscreamer | justdust: same file practically, just the names are different |
| 15:49.31 | eentzel | illsci: 'SSLEngine on' and 'SSLCertificateFile' |
| 15:49.31 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 15:49.32 | xchg | justdust: modules, DRI section, etc.. |
| 15:49.36 | justdust | got it... |
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| 15:49.51 | Viperchen | Hi... |
| 15:49.53 | xchg | justdust: the config i pasted is fully workable |
| 15:50.01 | xchg | hi |
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| 15:50.11 | Viperchen | i need some help to confige opengl... |
| 15:50.17 | Viperchen | configure |
| 15:50.25 | tarzeau | for people who wanted to know more about the new debian installer: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/sarge-install-process.html |
| 15:50.28 | stew | today seems to be 3d day |
| 15:50.35 | xchg | yeah :-) |
| 15:50.38 | jetscreamer | why, Viperchen ... that doesn't usually come up |
| 15:50.39 | Viperchen | ;) |
| 15:50.46 | xchg | Viperchen: stable or unstable ? |
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| 15:50.53 | xchg | Viperchen: XOrg or XFree ? |
| 15:51.02 | xchg | Viperchen: and also graphcard vendor :-) |
| 15:51.04 | Viperchen | xorg testing |
| 15:51.23 | xchg | Viperchen: Nvidia or ATI ? |
| 15:51.28 | Viperchen | nvidia geforce 6600gt |
| 15:51.28 | jetscreamer | !tell Chernik about root |
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| 15:51.46 | stew | Viperchen: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 15:52.06 | xchg | Viperchen: and don't forget about modprobe agpgart before running X |
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| 15:53.00 | nuskool | can anyone tell me why an apt-get install --fix-missing openoffice.org stalls after downloading 16% of the last file I need to fetch? |
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| 15:53.20 | justdust | xchg: well, I got more modules in the list, like GLcore, dri is there too, could it be that the library is missing ? |
| 15:53.43 | stew | justdust: if the library was missing it would say so in an EE line in the log |
| 15:54.07 | xchg | justdust: probally you have problems with DRI, cat /dev/dri/card0 |
| 15:54.09 | justdust | stew: can I /log/ | grep EE ? |
| 15:54.20 | xchg | justdust: what does it say ? invalid argument or device busy |
| 15:54.27 | Viperchen | it seem my kernel sources are unconfigered, how to do that? |
| 15:54.32 | stew | justdust: sure |
| 15:54.41 | tarzeau | Viperchen: see /boot/config* and make oldconfig |
| 15:54.46 | stew | Viperchen: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:54.49 | justdust | xchghold on... |
| 15:55.04 | Viperchen | 2.6.12-1-386 |
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| 15:55.17 | stew | Viperchen: apt-get linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 15:55.26 | stew | actually are 2.6.12 headers still available? |
| 15:55.28 | justdust | xchg: unknown file or map... |
| 15:55.29 | Viperchen | i did that |
| 15:55.41 | stew | !info linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386 testing |
| 15:55.47 | kspath | Do the world a favor. Jail a spammer today. |
| 15:55.53 | xchg | justdust: could you pastle the output of lsmod to pastebin.com , please ? |
| 15:55.54 | dpkg | linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386: (Architecture-specific header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on 386-class machines), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10 (etch), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 18820 kB |
| 15:56.10 | justdust | xchg: ok |
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| 15:56.20 | xchg | justdust: i recommend to apt-get install xclip |
| 15:56.28 | xchg | justdust: then do lsmod | xclip |
| 15:56.39 | falkon | Does anyone here use icecast at all? In Debian, it uses encrypted passwords, and I wanted to know if to put the password in the configuration I just run makepasswd to generate it and copy that to the config? |
| 15:56.39 | xchg | justdust: it will move the contents of output to X clipboard |
| 15:56.41 | stew | Viperchen: what command are you using, what exact error are you getting? |
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| 15:57.09 | Viperchen | m-a prepare |
| 15:57.10 | jetscreamer | it might be kernel-headers on older versions |
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| 15:57.53 | justdust | xchg: http://pastebin.com/502509 |
| 15:57.53 | stew | Viperchen: oh, thats fine, it just means that you have at least one set of sources unconfigured, but it should still find the configured headers for the running kernel |
| 15:57.58 | jetscreamer | mkpasswd isn't it |
| 15:58.23 | Viperchen | how? |
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| 15:58.34 | falkon | jetscreamer: yes, but once I encrypt my password, do I just copy it into the config? |
| 15:58.34 | justdust | xchg: I'm in kde, copying from konsole... |
| 15:58.37 | stew | Viperchen: i'm saying, just ignore that warning |
| 15:58.39 | xchg | justdust: there's no drm module loaded |
| 15:58.50 | xchg | justdust: do modprobe savage and modprobe drm |
| 15:58.57 | justdust | xchg: ok |
| 15:58.57 | falkon | jetscreamer: problem I have is when my encoder tries to connect to the icecast server I get "bad password" |
| 15:59.08 | stew | xchg: which kernel has a savage module? |
| 15:59.09 | Viperchen | there was the same error within the Nvidia driver installation script |
| 15:59.21 | jetscreamer | falkon: i 'believe' that's all, and did it like that once... but i just tried again, and it 'didn't work'(tm) but i'm not positive it was the encryped pw |
| 15:59.25 | xchg | stew: probally 2.6.* should have. |
| 15:59.26 | stew | Viperchen: don't use the nvidia driver installation script |
| 15:59.30 | Viperchen | k |
| 15:59.37 | justdust | xchg: huh ? modprobe, command not found... |
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| 15:59.46 | stew | justdust: as root |
| 15:59.46 | justdust | xchg: got to bze root ? |
| 15:59.49 | justdust | ok |
| 15:59.52 | xchg | justdust: under root |
| 16:00.03 | stew | but there isn't going to be a module named savage... |
| 16:00.10 | jetscreamer | justdust: as root, and in an xterm your path may not be set properly |
| 16:00.11 | chealer | jetscreamer: feww, you made me think for a second mwilson was back :) |
| 16:00.29 | falkon | jetscreamer: so does my encoder need to send the encrypted password or what the encrypted password WAS? |
| 16:00.40 | xchg | stew: hm, ../char/drm/savage.ko |
| 16:00.47 | justdust | xchg: both say module not found... |
| 16:00.50 | xchg | stew: which kernel ? |
| 16:01.03 | xchg | justdust: uname -a , pls |
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| 16:01.10 | jetscreamer | falkon: i would think the first but "i do not know" |
| 16:01.33 | jetscreamer | apt-get install modconf and use that to install modules |
| 16:01.48 | stew | xchg: 2.6.8 2.6.12 2.6.14 |
| 16:01.54 | justdust | Linux alien 2.6.8-2-k7 #1 Tue Aug 16 14:00:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:02.01 | stew | oh wait, i didn't check .14 |
| 16:02.07 | xchg | stew: 2.6.15 here, and savage is pretty old card |
| 16:02.13 | stew | yup |
| 16:02.14 | Gnea | weee, hey does anyone here have a Toshiba Satellite 5000 series laptop? |
| 16:02.23 | xchg | stew: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/savage.ko |
| 16:02.29 | jetscreamer | hey |
| 16:02.33 | timothykaine | Anyone know of a graphical wrapper for su (like gksu or kdesu) that does not rely on gconf or kdelibs? (excluding wmSu, this appears to have been abandoned long ago) |
| 16:02.42 | jetscreamer | are you configuring x, or the kernel framebuffer |
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| 16:03.10 | lordlamer | hello. i have installed nnswitch-mysql and libpam-mysql. i have users in the database. i can login with the user in the database. but i cant login over ssh and cannot change password with passwd. what could be wrong? |
| 16:05.13 | xchg | stew: http://www.linux-sxs.org/guis/DRIS3.html |
| 16:05.26 | xchg | stew: it says there's a savage.ko in 2.6.x modules, so i have no idea |
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| 16:06.01 | Gnea | !toshiba |
| 16:06.01 | dpkg | methinks toshiba is the manufacturer of epsasnova's hoss laptop. |
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| 16:06.11 | Gnea | who's that? |
| 16:06.18 | jetscreamer | toshiba notebook hd's seem to break a lot |
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| 16:06.27 | Gnea | solid here |
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| 16:06.42 | Gnea | jetscreamer: nvidia driver and X and kernel, that's a different story... |
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| 16:06.51 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 16:07.05 | jetscreamer | so i wonder which they are trying to configure |
| 16:07.07 | justdust | maybe my xfree isn't new enough, how can I find out it's version ? |
| 16:07.24 | jetscreamer | try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:07.32 | Gnea | X -version |
| 16:07.36 | jetscreamer | and see if the module you want is there |
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| 16:07.40 | stew | justdust: xfree and xorg would have the same driver |
| 16:07.41 | justdust | Gnea: thx |
| 16:07.50 | sree | hi |
| 16:07.53 | sree | how r u |
| 16:07.55 | stew | justdust: you have the most recent xfree |
| 16:08.07 | justdust | stew: ok |
| 16:08.10 | sree | can i c u |
| 16:08.20 | Gnea | hrm |
| 16:08.37 | xiaogil | how to download all the file which name begins with abc* using wget ? |
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| 16:09.02 | JKL_ | i want to install debian. i don't have flobby or cd-drive. im trying to enable services to run installer over lan. Server that needs to be configured is knoppix. how to configure all correct and then how to connect with client. |
| 16:09.16 | lordlamer | xiaogil: try to make a index.html with a link to this files |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | i have this version: "XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 20050901212727 fjp@localhost.localdomain) |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | Release Date: 15 August 2003 |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | " |
| 16:09.40 | deibyd | how can i update this version? |
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| 16:09.53 | stew | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 16:09.58 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 5608 kB, Installed size: 15620 kB |
| 16:10.00 | stew | deibyd: that is the latest |
| 16:10.03 | Gnea | !tell JKL_ about netinstall |
| 16:10.12 | stew | deibyd: it was released a month or two ago |
| 16:10.21 | justdust | deibyd: what if you try apt-get update, apt-get upgrade ? |
| 16:10.23 | deibyd | ok stew sorry |
| 16:10.32 | stew | JKL_: you waant to install knoppix or you want to use knoppix as a pxe server? |
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| 16:10.35 | Gnea | deibyd: sarge has xfree86 |
| 16:10.40 | deibyd | but i'm new in thos channel, chould you please send me the information? |
| 16:10.40 | grendal_prime | hey stew i got this cf gps card...and i have a cf card reader...am i compleatly off my rocker thinking that would work in a laptop? |
| 16:10.43 | debiankid | buds what is this message ? smbd get_md4pw:workstation asesores$: no account in domain |
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| 16:11.03 | stew | grendal_prime: i have no idea |
| 16:11.05 | jetscreamer | he wants to use knoppix as the pxe server i think |
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| 16:11.15 | jetscreamer | so he can install debian |
| 16:11.21 | JKL_ | stew, use knoppix as pxe server |
| 16:11.30 | grendal_prime | i got the cf gps for my zaurus 5500 and it does work in that (its linux based strong arm proc) |
| 16:12.08 | Gnea | damn, how often does the bts update? |
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| 16:12.26 | kspath | anyone know any blind users that are on channels like this that can keep up with the scrolling crap? |
| 16:12.26 | deibyd | but, i want upgrade or update xfree, whit ./configure, can i do that? |
| 16:12.38 | Gnea | deibyd: no. |
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| 16:12.42 | justdust | xchg: do you think this is solvable ? |
| 16:12.45 | deibyd | without apt |
| 16:12.47 | Gnea | deibyd: what do you want to upgrade it to? |
| 16:12.55 | JKL_ | i tried to understand this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en but no :E |
| 16:12.56 | xchg | justdust: everything can be solved |
| 16:12.59 | stew | Gnea: constantly, it sometimes takes up to a half hour for an email to get processed though when its getting hit hard |
| 16:13.03 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.08 | stefan_ | how do I mount a bin/cue file? can I do it using the mount-command? |
| 16:13.13 | xchg | justdust: i just have no idea why do i HAVE salvage.ko and you and stew not |
| 16:13.14 | Gnea | stew: ah cool |
| 16:13.28 | stew | xchg: becuase you are on a newer kernel |
| 16:13.33 | xchg | xchg: since it have support in 2.6.x kernel branch |
| 16:13.34 | deibyd | becouse Gnea, i want to learn |
| 16:13.49 | stew | xchg: it wasn't an option (at least in debian's) 2.6.8 or 2.6.12 |
| 16:13.52 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en ? |
| 16:13.58 | justdust | xchg: can't I upgrade to your kernel version ? |
| 16:14.01 | jetscreamer | for pxebooting? |
| 16:14.02 | xchg | stew: documentation say it's available in whole branch |
| 16:14.06 | debiankid | ? |
| 16:14.06 | deibyd | then, i want to create my own distribution of linux? |
| 16:14.08 | stew | xchg: http://vireo.org/~stew/config-2.6.8-2-686 go to the Hardware configuration section |
| 16:14.11 | Gnea | deibyd: do you care if you break everything and have to reinstall? |
| 16:14.19 | deibyd | or install kernel without distribution. |
| 16:14.20 | jetscreamer | then you better learn a lot more? |
| 16:14.26 | stew | xchg: then either debian removed it, or the documentation is wrong |
| 16:14.51 | xchg | stew: doesn't matter, anyway it wouldn't help the guy |
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| 16:15.04 | xchg | stew: hm, is 15 available in testing ? |
| 16:15.06 | deibyd | ok Gnea, but if yout broke, faster you learn |
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| 16:15.18 | kspath | I will hang out in #debian-blind just in case |
| 16:15.29 | smacnay | to stop a .deb kernel (initrd) from loading unwanted modules, place a 'blacklist module' in /etc/modprobe.conf? stew: hotplug control is coming for me now but some modules are loaded before hotplug starts up - don't waste any more time on me :) |
| 16:15.34 | Gnea | deibyd: i asked a 'yes' or 'no' question :) |
| 16:15.36 | stew | xchg: /msg dpkg info linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 testing |
| 16:15.41 | davis | hello |
| 16:15.43 | deibyd | do you can creat your own distribution? |
| 16:15.48 | xchg | stew thx |
| 16:16.00 | deibyd | gnea: yes! |
| 16:16.11 | JKL_ | well i tought that i can setup knoppix so i can boot over lan from it? and thats way install debian. i dont have cd or floppy, |
| 16:16.14 | Gnea | deibyd: then don't bother with source |
| 16:16.15 | xchg | justdust: kernel upgrade is the best idea, but what are you running ? |
| 16:16.24 | Gnea | deibyd: use the backports |
| 16:16.27 | Gnea | !backports |
| 16:16.27 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:16.28 | xchg | justdust: stable (no .15 available)? unstable? testing ? |
| 16:16.39 | justdust | shhh, if (jusdust doesn't walk dog in next minute) {poop on carpet}else{no 3D, no Quake...} |
| 16:16.45 | davis | i did an apt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I have a problem where I can not login as regular user. Only as root. When I login as user, I get an permission denied on /bin/bash and automaticallly logged out. What gives? |
| 16:16.54 | justdust | xchg: what ?? |
| 16:17.03 | xchg | justdust: distro branch |
| 16:17.04 | justdust | xchg: what do you mean ? |
| 16:17.09 | justdust | stazble |
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| 16:17.14 | xchg | justdust: bad luck |
| 16:17.15 | metho | is there a way of creating a website like using notepad and saving them as .html file in windows |
| 16:17.17 | stefan_ | how do I mount a bin/cue file? can I do it using the mount-command? |
| 16:17.21 | justdust | I just got the debian netinstall cd |
| 16:17.35 | xchg | justdust: it doesn't contain the proper kernel. but you can download the source and compile it at own |
| 16:17.39 | justdust | xchg: can I go from stable to unstable ? |
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| 16:17.59 | Viperchen | i cant find a nvidia-kernel-source for 2.6.12 :( |
| 16:17.59 | xchg | justdust: it depends on you. i'm always saying stable is for production servers, unstable is for home |
| 16:18.03 | jetscreamer | damn... i used to know the answer to davis' question |
| 16:18.05 | odb | justdust: as stable to etch works, it should be work directly too |
| 16:18.07 | stew | stefan_: what does the bin file contain? in general the aren't mountable, what does "file /path/to/.bin" say it is? |
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| 16:18.10 | justdust | xchg: eh, you're talking to a noob here, I don't know how to compile from source... |
| 16:18.20 | xchg | justdust: personally me has less problems with unstable than with stable :-) |
| 16:18.32 | stew | xchg: don't recommend unstable to people in here |
| 16:18.38 | justdust | xchg: are you here often ? |
| 16:18.42 | Viperchen | do i have something to add to sources.list? |
| 16:18.47 | odb | justdust: as beginner, install stable & then go perhabs to etch...step by step |
| 16:18.48 | xchg | justdust: almost every day |
| 16:18.58 | xchg | stew: i don't recommend, it depends on him |
| 16:19.00 | stefan_ | stew, It's a game cd, but I want to find out if a specific file will be on the cd so I want to browse the bin.. |
| 16:19.01 | stew | Viperchen: you need non-free and contrib /msg dpkg non-free ; man sources.list |
| 16:19.05 | jetscreamer | davis: try, as root, chowning your home dir to yourself, -R... chown -R you:you /home/you |
| 16:19.18 | jetscreamer | i 'think' that was it |
| 16:19.26 | Sunbug | A simple question here, I need to install debian sid but havent completly understod the diferences of things. What is non-US ? Isnt sid avalible in non-US ? |
| 16:19.28 | davis | jetscreamer: i looked. /home/davis is owned by davis:davis already. |
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| 16:19.32 | odb | stefan_: i think there are parms for mounting an iso |
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| 16:19.35 | justdust | xchg: I got to go, thx for all the help, I'll try an unstable erelease tonight, hope someone in here will help me... |
| 16:19.47 | chealer | !tell Sunbug about non-us |
| 16:19.48 | metho | is there a way of creating a website like using notepad and saving them as .html file in windows |
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| 16:19.57 | xchg | justdust: have a nice rest, CU |
| 16:19.57 | Gnea | today's E17 is extra sexy |
| 16:20.00 | stew | stefan_: why don't you just mount the original cd? |
| 16:20.01 | dogmeat | what is a good mount point for an additional hard drive (SATA) for a debian sarge server? |
| 16:20.07 | chealer | metho: why not? |
| 16:20.07 | jetscreamer | yes it's called $EDITOR , metho |
| 16:20.18 | justdust | xchg: rest ? got to go shopping... jeeej ! |
| 16:20.21 | Gnea | dogmeat: /data |
| 16:20.25 | Viperchen | thx |
| 16:20.26 | xchg | :-) |
| 16:20.30 | xchg | gotta go too |
| 16:20.34 | jetscreamer | davis: i could almost swear that was the answer, but i can't remember anyway |
| 16:20.35 | xchg | brb in couple of hours |
| 16:20.38 | stouset | dogmeat: What's the additional hard drive going to be doing? |
| 16:20.51 | stefan_ | stew, It's not an original.. got them as bins/cues from a friend.. file /path/to/.bin" says :data |
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| 16:21.04 | metho | and can u save as .html file to make it look like a website |
| 16:21.13 | stew | stefan_: we aren't going to help you with software piracy here |
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| 16:21.17 | dogmeat | stouset: probably just store data files, but i may also install software there as well |
| 16:21.20 | jetscreamer | metho: as long as you can hand code html, yes |
| 16:21.21 | xiaogil | how to d/l a directory using wget ? |
| 16:21.21 | chealer | Sunbug: note that you don't want to install sid if you don't master Debian |
| 16:21.26 | jetscreamer | but you can't or you would know htat |
| 16:21.27 | jetscreamer | that |
| 16:21.34 | dogmeat | stouset: like binaries, for builds etc |
| 16:21.39 | stefan_ | stew, I see.. is the whole channel anit-piracy? |
| 16:21.42 | stouset | dogmeat: /srv |
| 16:21.43 | metho | jetscreamer: is there linux software for making website |
| 16:21.46 | justdust | xchg: is unstable install as easy as stable netinstall ? |
| 16:21.47 | jetscreamer | metho: maybe you want.. ahhh |
| 16:21.48 | stew | stefan_: the whole network |
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| 16:21.56 | xchg | stew: btw, what's wrong with people and unstable ? |
| 16:21.57 | jetscreamer | metho: nvu is one |
| 16:22.11 | jetscreamer | there are many others |
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| 16:22.16 | jetscreamer | bluefish? i forget |
| 16:22.22 | jetscreamer | screem, peacock |
| 16:22.23 | dogmeat | thanks |
| 16:22.30 | xchg | justdust: it depends. sometimes weird thing can happen, but usually everything is going well |
| 16:22.35 | stefan_ | stew, I see.. sounds like a good thing.. yeah yeah.. but if it wasn't a pirate copy, then what would i have to do to see what the file contained? |
| 16:22.37 | justdust | thx everyone for all the help, see you later... |
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| 16:22.55 | metho | cheers m8, and for hosting just place a .html in apache2 /var/www ? |
| 16:22.55 | stew | stefan_: go away |
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| 16:23.11 | Gnea | jetscreamer: looks like the problem is hardware-specific (with the nvidia) |
| 16:23.13 | slept | dogmeat, maybe you want to use lvm and put your disks together |
| 16:23.35 | Kurtism | man, what is up with the debian implimentation of cyrus? |
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| 16:23.38 | Kurtism | wtf man |
| 16:23.47 | Gnea | Kurtism: ? |
| 16:23.50 | JKL_ | how do i install debian. i dont have floppy or cd-drive? i have another linux (knoppix) in my lan. |
| 16:23.53 | Kurtism | as far as I can tell it won't let me install saslauthd |
| 16:23.58 | jetscreamer | Kurtism: check the maintainer's logs, see if it's active |
| 16:24.06 | Kurtism | cyrus-imapd |
| 16:24.14 | Kurtism | where can I check that |
| 16:24.20 | jetscreamer | JKL_: do you have net access on that box? |
| 16:24.34 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en JKL_ |
| 16:25.16 | pipeline | JKL_: The key word here is "PXE" |
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| 16:25.25 | Gnea | JKL_: don't worry about the bootp, all you really need is tftp and dhcp |
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| 16:25.37 | JKL_ | there is a problem with that. i do not understand it enough. |
| 16:25.39 | pipeline | JKL_: You need to set up hpa-tftpd and (possibly) an NFS server. |
| 16:26.03 | pipeline | JKL_: Then download the pxeboot.tar.gz from your chosen debian mirror and follow the install guide instructions. |
| 16:26.06 | Gnea | pipeline: NFS is not necessary |
| 16:26.07 | Kurtism | hmmm |
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| 16:26.17 | Gnea | this is debian, not redhat ;) |
| 16:26.22 | JKL_ | i have 1 dhcp (my router) do i have to disable it? and make this knoppix act as dhcp server? |
| 16:26.37 | jetscreamer | probably not |
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| 16:26.44 | stew | xchg: unstable isn't meant for random newbies, it should only be run by people that really know what they are doing. they shouldnt' need support in here if they wan't to run unstable |
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| 16:27.26 | jetscreamer | you 'probably' just need a dhcp server |
| 16:27.29 | jetscreamer | any one will do |
| 16:27.33 | jetscreamer | but i'm guessing |
| 16:27.40 | Gnea | JKL_: yeah, you'll need to disable dhcp on the router |
| 16:27.44 | Gnea | or just unplug the router |
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| 16:27.55 | Gnea | and plug it back in once it's installed |
| 16:28.10 | Gnea | unless it's a netinstall |
| 16:28.21 | Gnea | where you actually have to use the internet to download packages |
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| 16:29.00 | sandman | Can MySQL and PostgreSQL work together? |
| 16:29.10 | stew | sandman: in what sense? |
| 16:29.15 | BuZzY | how good is postnuke? |
| 16:29.19 | sandman | PostgreSQL is a DBMS, meaning it's meant to work with a database engine, such as MySQL, yes? |
| 16:29.24 | pipeline | sandbot: No. |
| 16:29.30 | Gnea | BuZzY: drupal > postnuke |
| 16:29.31 | JKL_ | if i make an dhcp server and disable it from router. i let router act only as hub, shouldnt it work then? |
| 16:29.32 | lordlamer | sandman: yes |
| 16:29.46 | Gnea | JKL_: should be fine |
| 16:29.53 | stew | sandman: no, they are both DBMSs, they are both database engines |
| 16:29.58 | pipeline | JKL_: Yes. |
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| 16:30.17 | stew | sandman: they don't intercommunicate |
| 16:30.21 | JKL_ | do u know, if i can make dhcp server in this knoppix (running cd) |
| 16:30.27 | sandman | Oh. It seems, btw, that MySQL is less free than PostgreSQL |
| 16:30.28 | Gnea | sandman: you'd use something like ODBC to get them to intercommunicate |
| 16:30.30 | pipeline | JKL_: I would imagine so, but I have no idea. |
| 16:30.37 | pipeline | sandbot: I don't really care. MySQL is terrible. |
| 16:30.59 | sandman | As MySQL is steered by a Swedish company |
| 16:31.34 | Gnea | mysql has been easier to setup and maintain than postgresql, in my experience |
| 16:31.40 | stew | sandman: they are both dfsg-free which should be good enough |
| 16:32.13 | xinming | what's version of firefox in debian sid? |
| 16:32.27 | stew | xinming: /msg dpkg info firefox sid |
| 16:33.10 | xinming | stew: thanks |
| 16:33.30 | xinming | :-/ |
| 16:33.33 | jetscreamer | !start a db war |
| 16:33.33 | dpkg | MySQL is more full-featured than DB/2 |
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| 16:34.40 | basix | a stupid question: do LCD monitors have a refresh frequency like CRT ones? |
| 16:34.41 | stew | xinming: submit a patch! |
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| 16:34.47 | stew | basix: yes |
| 16:34.48 | Estes2 | !start a distro war |
| 16:34.48 | dpkg | DSL rocks! |
| 16:35.00 | Estes2 | dsl ? for a distro war ?? |
| 16:35.16 | xinming | stew: I am not good at programming |
| 16:35.17 | Estes2 | ah |
| 16:35.18 | stew | Estes2: /msg dpkg dsl |
| 16:35.24 | Estes2 | damn small linux |
| 16:35.28 | stew | xinming: submit a wishlist bug |
| 16:35.28 | Estes2 | yes, remembered |
| 16:35.32 | tarzeau | LSD rocks! |
| 16:35.36 | tarzeau | DSL is crap here |
| 16:35.41 | tarzeau | SDL is nice too |
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| 16:35.51 | tarzeau | !SLD |
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| 16:36.09 | basix | stew, how do i find out whats mine? |
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| 16:36.57 | syphox | heya,, what package do i need to apt-get to install smartctl ? |
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| 16:37.05 | stew | basix: how is it connected? vga cable? dvi cable? laptop? |
| 16:37.07 | maxb | Is there a reference document on the format of /var/lib/dpkg/status ? Specifically, I want to know all the possible values of the "Status:" field? |
| 16:37.14 | basix | laptop |
| 16:37.14 | micker | can anyone help me build madwifi on a toshiba 3500 tablet? I'm following the instructions from the dpkg bot, but its erroring out when I try to 'm-a a-i madwifi' |
| 16:37.19 | basix | stew, laptop |
| 16:37.21 | tarzeau | syphox: smartmontools |
| 16:37.23 | stew | basix: it likely can be autodetected then |
| 16:37.29 | syphox | ty tarzeau |
| 16:37.49 | basix | stew, how do i find out what frequency is it running at right now? xvidtune doesnt help |
| 16:37.51 | tarzeau | maxb: dpkg -l | head |
| 16:37.57 | stew | basix: xrandr |
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| 16:38.28 | micker | basix - what type/model laptop is it, lcd's have a fixed refresh rate... |
| 16:38.53 | basix | micker, its a dell inspiron 510m laptop |
| 16:39.17 | basix | micker, stew, it says 60Hz. It's kinda low isn't it? Shouldn't it be 85Hz or so? |
| 16:39.30 | Estes2 | Anyone knows about an apt-proxy howto ? |
| 16:39.32 | andr | basix: nope |
| 16:39.38 | JKL_ | hey, do i use dhcp.conf that is in 4.6.2 or in 4.6.2.1 |
| 16:39.47 | maxb | tarzeau: No, that's not right. The status file contains subtly different values. |
| 16:40.02 | stew | basix: no |
| 16:40.03 | tarzeau | maxb: ah, but same meaning :) |
| 16:40.11 | tarzeau | maxb: UTSL |
| 16:40.31 | maxb | tarzeau: That's fine for a human, but a script can't logically reason for itself |
| 16:40.42 | maxb | tarzeau: I'm unfamiliar with that acronym |
| 16:40.49 | andr | i've a problem with the /etc/hosts file, to wich package belongs to file a bug report? |
| 16:40.53 | tarzeau | !UTSL |
| 16:40.53 | dpkg | i guess utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 16:41.08 | stew | andr: what is the problem? |
| 16:41.11 | basix | andr, stew, i read somewhere that your screen should have a refresh rate of atleast 85Hz to keep your eyes from getting damaged |
| 16:41.26 | andr | basix: CRT |
| 16:41.34 | tarzeau | basix: don't trust all what you read |
| 16:41.47 | tarzeau | basix: high frequencies gets your scrotum damaged |
| 16:41.50 | stew | basix: i read that my body is inhabited by aliens |
| 16:41.57 | basix | lol |
| 16:42.09 | azeem | basix: for notebooks, 60 Hz is fine |
| 16:42.26 | basix | ok |
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| 16:43.04 | micker | basix - both my notebooks run at 60hz, that sounds about right... |
| 16:43.10 | andr | stew: seems that host command doesn't read /etc/hosts file |
| 16:43.11 | limpio | anybody can tell me how is jwm in Etch working out? |
| 16:43.31 | basix | micker, ok |
| 16:43.35 | stew | andr: its not supposed to |
| 16:43.54 | micker | basix - one thing to consider, In googling that model, it comes up as using the i855 video chipset which uses a nonstandard native resolution and seems to require a patch to work preperly |
| 16:43.55 | andr | stew: really? |
| 16:44.06 | tarzeau | limpio: you mean jvm? |
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| 16:44.34 | stew | andr: really, host does a dns lookup, and doesn't use nss at all |
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| 16:44.52 | basix | micker, yeah its i855 but my display works fine. i havent applied any patch to it. |
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| 16:45.33 | micker | basix - this may be a bit out of date then, but it may help too... http://www.tenfoot.org.uk/debian/dell-510m.html |
| 16:45.38 | nuskool | do the package descriptions on www.debian.org generally list a project's home page (if any)? |
| 16:45.42 | limpio | tarzeau: joe's window manager |
| 16:45.53 | basix | micker, i'll check it out |
| 16:45.57 | chealer | nuskool: no. check the package's copyright file instead |
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| 16:46.08 | tarzeau | nuskool: sometimes |
| 16:46.15 | tarzeau | chealer: sometimes they really do |
| 16:46.29 | chealer | tarzeau: but he said generally |
| 16:46.49 | tarzeau | chealer: did you make stats how much they do or don't? |
| 16:47.11 | chealer | tarzeau: yes, but the stats aren't free |
| 16:47.18 | tarzeau | chealer: can i buy them? |
| 16:47.29 | chealer | tarzeau: as long as you sign the NDA |
| 16:47.33 | tarzeau | i'll make stats and sell them cheaper than you! |
| 16:47.50 | tarzeau | and you can stick your NDA in your ear |
| 16:47.58 | basix | micker, it seems the author has gotten an upgrade from dell. the one that they offered me had a standard resolution of 1024x768. |
| 16:48.10 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 16:48.23 | tarzeau | !NDA |
| 16:48.23 | dpkg | I'm not allowed to tell you |
| 16:48.26 | tarzeau | hah |
| 16:48.26 | chealer | tarzeau: my stats have a GUI |
| 16:48.34 | tarzeau | chealer: gtk or qt? |
| 16:48.36 | micker | basix - ahh then you should be fine |
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| 16:49.38 | chealer | tarzeau: KDE 3.5.1 alpha |
| 16:49.47 | tarzeau | chealer: hah! not even GNUstep |
| 16:50.27 | chealer | tarzeau: no, but mine don't depend on freetype! |
| 16:50.31 | micker | stew -I'm trying the instructions to install madwifi you sent me yesterday, but I'm getting an error 2 on the build... seems to be a variety of "too many arguements" errors in if_ath_pci.c |
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| 16:51.28 | stew | micker: during the m-a a-i? |
| 16:51.41 | micker | stew - yeah |
| 16:51.43 | jetscreamer | !start a stats war |
| 16:51.51 | jetscreamer | just a thought |
| 16:51.53 | stew | micker: what version of debian? what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 16:52.07 | chealer | sheesh, I'm in a stats class ATM |
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| 16:52.30 | rox | can anybody suggest a tool for extraction of images from pdf files? |
| 16:52.30 | micker | stew - 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 16:52.47 | stew | micker: what version of debian? what does gcc --version say? |
| 16:53.00 | jetscreamer | adobe acrobat? |
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| 16:53.21 | micker | stew - Debian 4.0.2-5 |
| 16:53.25 | rox | jetscreamer: something that can be found in debian perhaps |
| 16:53.27 | jetscreamer | now that's sassy |
| 16:53.36 | Gnea | lol |
| 16:53.52 | jetscreamer | rox: all i know is xpdf seems to let you do more |
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| 16:54.10 | stew | micker: not sure than, check the bts for madwifi-source |
| 16:54.25 | rox | jetscreamer: yeah, xpdf lets you rotate it and that's it |
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| 16:55.27 | sandman | Is DB2 right about the most performance oriented database out there? |
| 16:55.47 | sandman | I see there are a lot of databases, and the only ones that look even remotely good are: Oracle, DB2, PostgreSQL, and MySQL. |
| 16:55.50 | andr | rox: try xpdf-utils |
| 16:55.51 | micker | rox -imagemagick |
| 16:55.56 | tarzeau | chealer: gnustep also works on windows and mac os x (without x server!) |
| 16:56.22 | rox | andr && micker: thanks for the tips guys |
| 16:56.31 | Sunbug | Is there any way to make dpkg-buildpackage apt-get the missing deps? |
| 16:56.31 | tarzeau | chealer: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/GNUstep.Win.Gorm.gif |
| 16:56.41 | tarzeau | chealer: besides gnustep CAN run without freetype |
| 16:56.53 | tarzeau | Sunbug: sure |
| 16:57.12 | tarzeau | Sunbug: apt-get build-dep pkg |
| 16:57.28 | micker | rox - its simple 'convert foo.pdf image%05d.jpg' (or tiff or png or whatever) |
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| 16:58.39 | Sunbug | tarzeau: Hm. Didnt understand. Trying to build a pack from source.. -rfakeroot -us -uc :P |
| 16:58.44 | chealer | tarzeau: my stats don't look horrible |
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| 16:58.57 | andr | rox: or you can use ghetto-style-pdf-image-extraction, you do a screenshot of the window =) |
| 16:58.57 | tarzeau | Sunbug: i use debulid |
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| 17:00.05 | rox | andr: i have thought about that |
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| 17:01.21 | tarzeau | debuild of course |
| 17:01.34 | tarzeau | chealer: doesn't look horrible , let me quote grey_gandalf: |
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| 17:01.49 | tarzeau | chealer: "One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female with choosen make-up and dress." |
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| 17:02.22 | Johan | Hi folks, im trying to install php on my server, apt-get install php4 works find, but one thing.. there is no binarys? I want to be able to run php-scripts from the console with "php file.php". How can i install the php binary and not just the module? |
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| 17:02.57 | jelly | Johan: install php4-cli |
| 17:03.13 | sohmestra | does anyone know what's up with the mirrors.rcn.net mirror? |
| 17:03.35 | eis_os | hmm, someone could suggest a good tutorial about fastcgi + php? |
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| 17:03.57 | Johan | jelly: TANKS! you saved my day! |
| 17:04.00 | eis_os | + fastcgi wrapper for su'ing to the right user |
| 17:04.08 | stew | eis_os: ask #php |
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| 17:05.05 | Reliant | I'm trying to play MIDI files in KDE, but I get an error saying /dev/sequencer couldn't be read for information. Timidity works fine |
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| 17:05.17 | stew | Reliant: are you using alsa or oss? |
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| 17:05.22 | tarzeau | chealer: read also the Booz-Allen Study at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/ |
| 17:05.37 | tarzeau | Reliant: #debian-kde |
| 17:06.02 | Johan | jelly: a follow up question then, do you know how to enably mysql in php-cli? |
| 17:06.12 | stew | Johan: apt-get install php4-mysql |
| 17:06.23 | Reliant | OSS |
| 17:06.47 | samuel | sup all |
| 17:07.31 | chealer | tarzeau: hah, my stats' niceness is independant of sexual attraction. even grandfathers can use my stats |
| 17:07.32 | stew | Reliant: and the /dev/sequencer file exists? are you in the audio group? |
| 17:07.43 | samuel | anyone know when the sid repository will be back up? ive tried ftp.us ftp.uk ftp.ca, they all seem to be failing |
| 17:07.49 | Reliant | yes to both, I also made it 777 to be sure I had access |
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| 17:08.13 | tarzeau | chealer: crap! i'll go dating now, and othere people can jerk off yer stats! :) |
| 17:08.20 | stew | samuel: they are up, what error are you getting |
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| 17:08.54 | chealer | !win cheal |
| 17:08.54 | Aronofsky | hi everyone |
| 17:08.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, cheal! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland! |
| 17:09.05 | samuel | stew: just a sec... im running it again to get the error |
| 17:09.16 | stew | samuel: put it in a pastebin, don't paste here |
| 17:09.38 | chealer | tarzeau: well, KDE was invented after those stats were published |
| 17:10.08 | stew | my lord, have you two not beaten this horse dead yet |
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| 17:10.26 | tarzeau | stew: can you make stats about debian/control files? |
| 17:10.37 | tarzeau | and also /copyright about urls to homepages/download pages? |
| 17:10.40 | fichtel23 | snafuzzy |
| 17:10.43 | tarzeau | you could sell it to chealer |
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| 17:11.13 | _joey | what block dev is used for usb ext hdd on 2.6.11 ? /dev/sda ? |
| 17:11.17 | Aronofsky | i got a probleme with my postfix+amavis+spamassassin install, actually the spam detection is working, the spam are recognized but i ain"t got any headers added in my mail to specifiy the analyzis ... i dont get why, my conf seems ok |
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| 17:12.19 | stew | _joey: depends, it could also be sdb sdc sdd etc, /msg dpkg usb-storage ; if those modules are loaded it should show up in fdisk -l |
| 17:12.42 | stew | Aronofsky: how do you know its working then? |
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| 17:13.19 | Aronofsky | stew, because i see in the log the mail has been rejected if it has to |
| 17:13.38 | sandman | I'm confused as to what a DBMS is, exactly. It's not hte database engine, it's not the program used to create the scripts used to generate tables and data, etc... is it the module of the database system that interprets the scripts or something? |
| 17:13.45 | davis | hello |
| 17:14.00 | sandman | Or is a DBMS the entire database software package? |
| 17:14.02 | davis | is there a way to install a X.org 6.8.0 release? |
| 17:14.14 | jetscreamer | isn't that kind of old? |
| 17:14.21 | jetscreamer | go for 7.0 |
| 17:14.23 | jetscreamer | :p |
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| 17:15.18 | TravisT | DBMS is the entire database software package |
| 17:15.20 | dvm1981 | When i do 'CTRL+ALT+Backspace' does this restart the X server ? So that the configuration of XFree86 are re readed ? |
| 17:15.21 | jetscreamer | davis: which flavor of debian, sarge/stable? |
| 17:15.27 | davis | my fglrx driver requires 6.8.0 |
| 17:15.32 | davis | i am using unstable. |
| 17:15.38 | stew | Aronofsky: can you show me an example log entry? |
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| 17:15.52 | Aronofsky | stew, yes , just a sec |
| 17:16.00 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: /etc/init.d/?dm restart will |
| 17:16.01 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to clear the cached file from memory? |
| 17:16.20 | stew | dvm1981: yes |
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| 17:16.46 | Estes2 | In my sysctl.conf, i got this: sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 and when i run sysctl -p i get this : error: 'sys.net.ipv4.ip_forward' is an unknown key Anyone ? |
| 17:16.47 | mbuf | where is the tclConfig.sh script present in debian sarge 3.1r0a? |
| 17:16.54 | jetscreamer | davis: might be a pita, since it's 6.9 in sid |
| 17:17.15 | Aronofsky | stew , Jan 11 23:09:37 debian-server amavis[26717]: (26717-01) Blocked SPAM, <root@lephayju.dyndns.org> -> <julien@lephayju.dyndns.org>, quarantine: /var/lib/amavis/quarantine, Message-ID: <20060111220936.B13B37ED96@debian-server.lephayju.dyndns.org>, mail_id: Tw9tU34ADAsV, Hits: 999.999, 862 ms |
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| 17:17.32 | TravisT | how's the vid-card support these days, on the install? GForce FX5200 works? |
| 17:17.39 | wethion | Heyas all. I need a suggestion for a web based calendaring system with a simple interface my technically backward parents will use with the power my exec. admin asst. fiancee wil be able to harness. preferrably not tied to KDE or Gnome, since I run neither on my web server, and supporting secure connections. I can't seem to find it on google. Ideas? |
| 17:17.40 | dvm1981 | When i do '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' his happend on some else, so in awaiting that i find i sollution to this, i need to setup Xinerama and have some troubles, so i would not to restart constant the pc because troubles of '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' (he hangs and not more respond after...). |
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| 17:18.12 | norskfjord | I have a problem, I am using Firestarter and I have allowed port 80 on incoming and outgoing but people still cant access my apache |
| 17:18.13 | stew | Aronofsky: so you are running spamassassin via amavis? |
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| 17:18.22 | Aronofsky | Stew , yes |
| 17:18.41 | TravisT | norskfjord: it may be your ISP is blocking it. |
| 17:18.57 | dvm1981 | So and my Dual monitor is not really solved, these two works now but, the twoo screens are duplicated, and would like to use one screen for each use, so split it in two parts |
| 17:19.00 | stew | Aronofsky: ok, that i've never done. do you know what options amavis is passing to spamassassin? |
| 17:19.05 | lakcaj | Is there something like an rpm to deb utility? |
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| 17:19.12 | wethion | lakcaj, alien |
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| 17:19.33 | Aronofsky | Stew, not really |
| 17:19.33 | stew | dvm1981: put your XF86Config-4 in a pastebin |
| 17:19.34 | lakcaj | wethion, man, I knew that... wtf was I thinking? Brain fart! Thanks. |
| 17:19.43 | wethion | lakcaj, NP. :) |
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| 17:20.02 | davis | if i include testing in my apt-sources, can i specify to install the testing version of xorg xserver? |
| 17:20.03 | norskfjord | TravisT, no, when the firewall is off it works fine |
| 17:20.05 | dvm1981 | stew: ;-) |
| 17:20.16 | lakcaj | davis, google for apt pinning |
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| 17:20.26 | jetscreamer | !apt-pinning |
| 17:20.26 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
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| 17:20.45 | stew | davis: "apt-get -t testing install packagename" or pinning above, or apt-get install package=version |
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| 17:21.29 | Aronofsky | stew, actually im pretty sure it got something to do the "content-filter-mode" conf file of amavis where "@bypass_spam_checks_maps" are defined but i don't really get it |
| 17:21.39 | student | why does this command not update my iptables? iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 |
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| 17:22.04 | TravisT | Does GForce FX5200 work after new install 3.2r0a DVD? |
| 17:22.25 | wethion | what's up with packages.debian.org? |
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| 17:22.32 | stew | Aronofsky: ask in #amavis or #postfix maybe |
| 17:22.37 | wizzomafizzo | install: cannot stat `debian/buildinfo': No such file or directory Can anyone tell me why I get this error when I run "make-kpkg kernel-image" for the 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 17:22.44 | stew | wethion: the search function was removed becuase the server is overloaded |
| 17:22.53 | stew | wethion: use apt-cache search and apt-file search |
| 17:22.57 | samuel | whats the address of pastebot |
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| 17:23.10 | stew | !paster |
| 17:23.10 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 17:23.12 | Ronin | samuel: /whois paster |
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| 17:23.34 | Aronofsky | stew, i tried but nobody seems to answer, those chans are really dead |
| 17:24.12 | mula` | n'abend |
| 17:24.19 | samuel | stew: sorry about the time it took, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1543 |
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| 17:24.26 | Aronofsky | stew, do you use spamassassin without amavis ? |
| 17:25.00 | slept | what do the | in package dependencies stand for ? |
| 17:25.10 | azeem | "or" |
| 17:25.26 | slept | thanks |
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| 17:25.35 | stew | samuel: i can get that file: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz no problem, you must be having a network / firewall problem. have you tried http instead of ftp? |
| 17:25.45 | stew | Aronofsky: yes |
| 17:25.51 | Carl | help |
| 17:26.03 | Carl | i need help starting debian install |
| 17:26.14 | centrx | Carl, ask away |
| 17:26.24 | Carl | i got 31r1 |
| 17:26.29 | Aronofsky | stew, and what config do you need to do to have it working with postfix |
| 17:26.32 | Carl | i got CD 1 and 2 |
| 17:26.50 | samuel | stew: no, but i dont see why, ive not changed anything since yesterday |
| 17:27.01 | Carl | its says u can boot from CD1, but its not boting |
| 17:27.05 | Carl | booting |
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| 17:27.26 | Carl | and i want to get rid of windows and go debian |
| 17:27.29 | samuel | stew: thanks, ill give http a try |
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| 17:27.31 | stew | samuel: well the problem isn't on the server side, so it is either on your machine, or some machine in the middle blocking the traffic |
| 17:27.52 | dvm1981 | I have troubles to setup 'Xinerama' my XF86Config4 are on http://pastebin.com/502622 It would be nice if someone can help me please |
| 17:27.58 | centrx | Carl, that may be a setting with the basic internal software of your PC, that is the BIOS |
| 17:27.59 | stew | samuel: can you ping it? |
| 17:28.09 | Carl | i tried that |
| 17:28.13 | centrx | Carl, you can enter the BIOS using some key or key combination that is likely stated |
| 17:28.16 | centrx | Carl, ok what happened |
| 17:28.20 | Carl | i set it to boot from CDROM first |
| 17:28.30 | Carl | but i did not notice the CD |
| 17:28.43 | dvm1981 | I have followed the instructions of the Xinerama-Howoto on TDLP but i have some trouble with the 'ServerLayout' i think |
| 17:28.48 | centrx | Carl, another possibility is that the way in which you burned the CD did not preserve the special boot properties of the CD |
| 17:29.19 | samuel | stew: i can, thats odd no? |
| 17:29.23 | Carl | i burnt directed from iso to CD using NERO |
| 17:29.25 | stew | dvm1981: you have one Device section on fglrx and the other on ATI (which deosn't exist), either switch them both to fglrx or ati |
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| 17:29.57 | stew | samuel: not really, i wouldn't be suprised if some firewall in the middle was not allowing / misconfigured for active ftp |
| 17:30.09 | samuel | stew: and i can telnet to ftp "220 saens.debian.org FTP server (vsftpd) |
| 17:30.09 | samuel | " |
| 17:30.35 | stew | samuel: i bet it would work with passive ftp |
| 17:30.47 | dvm1981 | stew : I see it now. The driver section there ... |
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| 17:31.49 | dvm1981 | stew : What is the best to switch to fglrx or ati (in lowercaser) |
| 17:32.11 | Estes2 | where should i add a script path for it to be executed at startup ? and only at startup... Adding it in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d ? or is there something else do-able ? |
| 17:32.17 | stew | dvm1981: do you need 3d support? which chipset is it? |
| 17:32.28 | stew | dvm1981: 9200? 9600? |
| 17:32.35 | dvm1981 | stew : Yes i hopefull try i more than ^x |
| 17:32.48 | dvm1981 | stew: 9600Se |
| 17:32.58 | stew | dvm1981: do you need 3d support? |
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| 17:33.09 | dvm1981 | stew : yes sorry |
| 17:33.11 | stew | dvm1981: then you need to use fglrx |
| 17:33.17 | cahoot | Estes2: a cronob @reboot? |
| 17:33.26 | cahoot | Estes2: a cronjob |
| 17:33.31 | dvm1981 | stew : i try it now and comme back again to let it know |
| 17:33.31 | green-mouse | Hi. Somebody know how i can get files trasfer log in my samba? I tried to ask on #samba but don`t get answer. |
| 17:33.41 | sohmestra | Estes2: /etc/init.d |
| 17:34.03 | stew | Estes2: what does the script do? |
| 17:34.05 | sohmestra | Estes2: then too update-rc.d --add <name of script> or something |
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| 17:34.13 | sohmestra | Estes2: man update-rc.d |
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| 17:35.05 | centrx | Carl, those are really the only two possibilities i can think of because there is no reason the CD should not boot if those two things are in order |
| 17:35.09 | Estes2 | stew, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (i tried to put it in sysctl.conf but i get this error when i run sysctl -p : error: 'sys.net.ipv4.ip_forward' is an unknown key) |
| 17:35.24 | Estes2 | i don't get it and i find nothing on google |
| 17:35.44 | stew | Estes2: edit /etc/networking/options |
| 17:35.53 | Estes2 | sohmestra, i already know this, it was in my question, but thanks... |
| 17:36.22 | Estes2 | stew, oh, ok, thanks :) |
| 17:36.28 | stew | Estes2: but wait |
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| 17:36.37 | citricoder | hi all |
| 17:36.39 | Carl | soo how do i make install, and get rid of windows, if it will not boot up |
| 17:36.40 | stew | Estes2: that is deprecated, and the sysctl method should really work |
| 17:36.47 | stew | can you put the exact line from /etc/sysctl.conf here? |
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| 17:37.08 | sohmestra | Estes2: or do sysctl -a |grep forward |
| 17:37.18 | sohmestra | Estes2: to see what the key should be |
| 17:37.19 | citricoder | I have a trouble with LaTEX, amsmath files does not exist! |
| 17:37.20 | stew | Estes2: oh, it should be just netipv4.ipforward, without the sys on the front |
| 17:37.41 | stew | Estes2: err net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:37.56 | jjazz | citricoder: Try #latex |
| 17:38.06 | citricoder | \join #latex |
| 17:38.10 | jjazz | citricoder: (generally they're helpful, but you might have to wait until somebody notices your question) |
| 17:38.10 | citricoder | XD |
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| 17:38.43 | Carl | help |
| 17:38.51 | andr | Carl: have you tried to open CD1 with windos? |
| 17:39.01 | Carl | in what way |
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| 17:39.10 | Carl | explore it |
| 17:39.12 | Carl | YES |
| 17:39.43 | Carl | how do i get it to install DEBIAN, when i will not boot |
| 17:39.47 | andr | Carl: can you see the contents without problems? |
| 17:39.51 | cire | Hi, i want to buy a webcam which shall run under Linux. (debian). Does anyone have experiences with webcams under linux? (should work witz IM Programs) |
| 17:39.55 | Carl | yes |
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| 17:40.06 | Carl | the cd just will not boot |
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| 17:40.25 | jjazz | Carl: Do you have any other bootable CD's? Try to boot with one of those. That will tell you whether the problem is the CD or the BIOS settings. |
| 17:40.39 | Carl | yes windows, and thats does boot |
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| 17:41.45 | andr | Carl: have you checked if the downloaded ISO image is corrupted? |
| 17:41.49 | jjazz | Carl: Then try burning another CD, a different image or else you can order a CD or DVD set online. |
| 17:41.55 | odla | when i try to upgrade from sarge to etch the kernel forces me into maintainence mode and does me there is an inconsistency, asks me to run fsck. after i run fsck xorg doesn't work. anyone else having similar problems? |
| 17:42.00 | jjazz | Carl: check the md5 of the image |
| 17:42.06 | Carl | well it burnt of ok from ISO to CD |
| 17:42.21 | Carl | i used Nero to burn it |
| 17:42.24 | Ronin | doesnt mean the iso was ok Carl |
| 17:42.33 | tr1gg3r | Carl, check md5 sum before burning make sure it is right |
| 17:42.48 | Carl | how do i know if its right? |
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| 17:43.03 | Carl | how do i check? |
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| 17:43.19 | tr1gg3r | carl, it will match the provided checksum |
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| 17:43.31 | jjazz | Carl: Check the md5 of the file against the md5 on the site you downloaded it from. |
| 17:43.37 | mbuf | has anyone cross-compiled ecos on debian ? |
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| 17:43.58 | Carl | not sure what u mean |
| 17:44.00 | tr1gg3r | Carl, u will need to google for that cuz i dont know how to do md5sum on windows |
| 17:44.03 | andr | Carl: you need a windos version of md5sum, try here: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html |
| 17:44.03 | stew | !win32 md5sum |
| 17:44.03 | dpkg | http://downloads.activestate.com/contrib/md5sum/Windows/ |
| 17:44.34 | stew | dpkg: win32 md5sum =~ s/<reply>// |
| 17:44.35 | dpkg | OK, stew |
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| 17:46.38 | moshii | does anyone know a way of reading fat volume labels without mtools? |
| 17:48.02 | Carl | i type that as it is: dpkg: win32 md5sum =~ s/<reply>// in run command of what |
| 17:48.09 | Carl | cuz i do not understand |
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| 17:48.24 | azeem | Carl: that wasn't for you |
| 17:48.35 | azeem | stew was talking to dpkg, the bot |
| 17:48.40 | Carl | ok |
| 17:48.44 | Carl | brb |
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| 17:49.12 | neuterspAWAY | Anybody here use nicotine as their SoulSeek client? |
| 17:49.14 | stew | Carl: the link that dpkg spit out a few lines above was a url to a program you could use to check the md5 of the iso |
| 17:49.53 | debiankid | grrrr im having trouble setting up my dhcp serve r |
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| 17:50.00 | debiankid | i dont know how to make it work |
| 17:50.10 | avu | hi |
| 17:50.20 | stew | debiankid: ask a specific question and we'll try to help |
| 17:50.24 | Aronofsky | can anyone explain me the role of the line : @bypass_spam_checks_maps = ( \%bypass_spam_checks, \@bypass_spam_checks_acl, \$bypass_spam_checks_re); in amavis config file "15-content_filter_mode" |
| 17:50.54 | avu | is there a program in debian which I can use to make a plant layout? I tried using dia but it does not seem to be fit for this (ready made symbols for stuff like doors/windows is missing) |
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| 17:52.20 | pack | if i apt-get install kernel-image-2,4,27-2-686-smp then apt-get install kernel-source-2,4,27, copy the config- file from /boot and make oldconfig && make bzImage, why do I end up with two differing binaries? shouldn't they be identifcal |
| 17:52.34 | Waggie | Good day, folks.. |
| 17:53.10 | starfishy | pack: are you sure you are using the same version of gcc debian was using? |
| 17:53.26 | starfishy | if not, the binaries would most likely be different |
| 17:53.51 | jelly | pack: nope, they shouldn't. Unless you use the exact same compiler, and compile at exact same time on a host with the same name. ;-) |
| 17:54.16 | Waggie | I'm having an issue with amavis.. I'm running Debian Etch on i386, I upgraded amavis yesterday and even after verifying that bypass_spam_checks was commented out, it's not filtering any viruses or spam. |
| 17:54.26 | Waggie | Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 17:54.42 | pack | starfishy: i'm not a hundred percent on what the debian kernel .....ohhhh crap, your right the compile takes the stuff into acct (host name and stuff)...that makes sense. |
| 17:54.58 | pack | modules for each should be interchangeable though right? |
| 17:55.02 | dondelelcaro | Aronofsky: it's making an array from a hashref, an arrayref, and a scalar ref. |
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| 17:55.10 | jelly | Waggie: what version are you running now? Maybe 2.3.* got into testing and you didn't update the config files? |
| 17:55.18 | Vladie | can I run kde through an SSH client like Putty? |
| 17:55.25 | starfishy | that too |
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| 17:56.16 | starfishy | vladie: you can run kde apps through the ssh client |
| 17:56.21 | stew | Vladie: yes, putty can do x11 forwarding to a local xserver |
| 17:56.37 | starfishy | if you want to forward the whole desktop something like VNC might fit your bill |
| 17:56.51 | Aronofsky | Waggie, actually i got the same problem, it seems that before you had to comment out that line but now you had uncomment it ... i really dont get it, try and tell me what |
| 17:58.12 | Aronofsky | dondelelcaro, but to have amavis working with spamassassion should I comment or uncomment that line ? |
| 17:58.32 | Vladie | @stew / starfishy: I'm trying to setup D2GS through wine and would first like to test whether this works with an x server before I try to get it to run without x server... however I do not have a linux server at home |
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| 17:58.44 | jason | lo |
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| 17:59.11 | starfishy | whats d2gs? |
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| 17:59.28 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
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| 17:59.45 | starfishy | if the application runs on X (in a window) you can use ssh with the -X option to forward the window to your home machine |
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| 18:00.12 | starfishy | you cannot forward the whole desktop (at least to the best of my knowledge) |
| 18:00.31 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
| 18:00.49 | cmorgan | i'm running debian unstable should i have hotplug or udev installed? |
| 18:00.55 | jelly | starfishy: you can forward the whole desktop using vnc's x0vncserver, though. |
| 18:01.04 | starfishy | jelly: thats what I said |
| 18:01.06 | stew | cmorgan: do you use gnome-volume-manager? |
| 18:01.21 | cmorgan | stew: no, not sure what that is even |
| 18:01.22 | Aronofsky | Waggie, so , did you try ? |
| 18:01.24 | Vladie | starfishy: As far as I know wine doesn't need kde or a desktop, just the xserver... well, thanks for your input... I'm giving a try :) |
| 18:01.35 | cmorgan | stew: i noticed udev was newer so i figured that was the way to go but i wanted to ask |
| 18:01.39 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
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| 18:02.20 | stew | cmorgan: you might have some modules being loaded by hotplug, if you remove it you might need to add those modules to /etc/modules to make them loaded at boot |
| 18:02.26 | starfishy | vladie: wine doesnt need kde |
| 18:02.35 | Ronin | !ops Switchplaces is a spam bot |
| 18:02.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Switchplaces is a spam bot |
| 18:02.50 | cmorgan | stew: ahh. i thought udev took care of that for me? |
| 18:02.53 | starfishy | as long as the app will properly run on the remote system you can forward its application window through ssh |
| 18:02.58 | Ronin | managed to move to freenode too i see |
| 18:03.10 | stew | cmorgan: udev won't load kernel modules, but it takes over all of the other hotplug functionality |
| 18:03.13 | cmorgan | stew: one other question. on machines with udev they don't seem to power off properly when being shutdown |
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| 18:03.22 | stew | cmorgan: dunno |
| 18:03.24 | cmorgan | stew: machines with hotplug do shutdown properly |
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| 18:03.33 | jason__ | just installed fresh copy of apache2 on sarge...i noticed in the httpd.conf file that there is no "document root." although, there is a 'server root.' is this normal? |
| 18:03.48 | starfishy | cmorgan: that cant be a general udev problem, my machines power off properly with udev |
| 18:04.18 | stew | cmorgan: possibly hotplug is loading apm or acpi modules that are needed for shutdown |
| 18:04.21 | cmorgan | starfishy: its very odd. all of the machines with udev don't seem to shutdown when you run 'poweroff' or normal shutdown |
| 18:04.47 | cmorgan | stew: i don't see any acpi or apm modules loaded when looking at lsmod |
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| 18:05.03 | dondelelcaro | jason__: because the compiled default is presumably set to the place where Debian has the DocumentRoot |
| 18:05.39 | jason__ | dondelelcaro, okay..so, httpd.conf is still the main configuration file for apache2, right? |
| 18:05.46 | stew | jason__: look in sites-available/default |
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| 18:05.59 | dondelelcaro | jason__: in any case, if you want to do something different, drop a configuration file into /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and a2ensite |
| 18:06.05 | dondelelcaro | jason__: no, apache.conf is. |
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| 18:07.45 | jason__ | dondelelcaro, oops..i amde a change in httpd.conf...i removed the two comment symbols from the .php handler lines |
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| 18:10.14 | Nyphetamine | hi some one talk spanish? |
| 18:10.52 | jjazz | !es |
| 18:10.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:12.42 | Nyphetamine | thankyou |
| 18:12.59 | TravisT | Does GForce FX5200 work after new install 3.2r0a DVD? |
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| 18:14.19 | soymilk | anyone have an tip on setting up an external monitor with xorg? how do you do it? |
| 18:14.36 | Ronin | external monitor? never seen an internal one |
| 18:14.55 | TravisT | laptop |
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| 18:14.59 | Waggie | jelly: I am running 2.3 and I moved my amavis.conf file into /etc/amavis/conf.d/ |
| 18:15.02 | soymilk | i understand having and extra "screen" and a "monitor" section -but how do you actually activate one or the other? |
| 00:00.00 | epsilon | man unzip |
| 00:00.04 | beefcake | just type unzip |
| 00:00.09 | beefcake | actually it will give you the information |
| 00:00.32 | dusty- | jelly its because apt-get was using ftp |
| 00:00.35 | dusty- | ftp is a bad protocol |
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| 00:00.49 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? |
| 00:00.57 | stew | hawking: /msg dpkg bat |
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| 00:01.20 | jelly | dusty-: problems with ftp and firewalls are not unusual. |
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| 00:01.44 | Malagmyr | What is the easiest filesystem to recover files from in case of a disk failure that leaves the disk partly working. You know, still spinning and accessible with a program that reads aggressively and tries to fix dead sectors? I want a recoverable disk as far as it can go without mirroring it. This is for something that's important enough for me to do this, but not important enough to waste space for a full backup. |
| 00:01.50 | _tjansson | I think that I by accident have installed a ftp deamon proftpd - how do I kill it? |
| 00:01.55 | jelly | dusty-: just put http:// instead of ftp:// in your sources.list and try again. |
| 00:02.00 | dusty- | I have :) |
| 00:02.01 | dusty- | thanks |
| 00:02.07 | stew | _tjansson: apt-get remoe packagename |
| 00:02.09 | seba | tosh: can you pointme where to find info about downgrade a package? (smbd/nmbd) |
| 00:02.24 | eeyore- | seba: go grab it from www.debian.org/pool/ |
| 00:02.26 | stew | seba: try cifs |
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| 00:02.42 | Kofif | ok thenr |
| 00:02.57 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: or, better, apt-get remove --purge proftpd |
| 00:02.58 | seba | stew: yes, i try. but it's has it's own problems too. |
| 00:03.03 | Kofif | regarding the kernel panic msg im keep getting , what should i change / fix then in the menuconfig ? |
| 00:03.23 | stew | ask #samba |
| 00:03.26 | stew | seba: ^^ |
| 00:03.27 | _tjansson | Malagmyr: was does --purge do? |
| 00:03.37 | _tjansson | thx btw stew |
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| 00:03.39 | Kofif | _tjansson erases |
| 00:03.46 | seba | stew: je je, thanks. |
| 00:03.50 | stew | _tjansson: --purge also removes the configuration |
| 00:03.57 | _tjansson | nice |
| 00:04.01 | Malagmyr | _tjansson: read the manual :) It removes some config files and stuff that might not be removed otherwise. Nothing bad anyway. |
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| 00:04.40 | _tjansson | a RTFM :D - time for me to go to bed then :D |
| 00:04.48 | _tjansson | but thx anyways :D |
| 00:04.58 | Kofif | well im getting VFS problem kernel panic , about the root , where exactly should i look in the kernel menuconfig ? |
| 00:05.05 | seba | join #samba |
| 00:05.13 | stew | Kofif: you ide chipset and your root filesystem |
| 00:05.17 | afabian | Malagmyr, the platters are usually readable, it's the motor and such that typically fails. |
| 00:05.24 | Kofif | ide chipset , ok |
| 00:05.27 | Kofif | my filesystem is ext2 |
| 00:05.28 | z36ra | in konqeror, what would cause left-dblclick not to open a text file, but right-click-open in-kwrite works fine? |
| 00:05.43 | stew | Kofif: and they need to be compled in, not compiled as modules |
| 00:05.43 | dusty- | jelly, can u tell me the correct host for httpd as ftp was ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org ? |
| 00:05.48 | afabian | You shouldn't let your strategy give you a false sense of security. It sounds about as bad as "no plan." Because the data recovery fees are .. much more expensive than backups. |
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| 00:05.55 | jelly | dusty-: uh, the same? |
| 00:05.55 | dusty- | jelly, should I change it to http://uk.debian.org? |
| 00:06.06 | jelly | dusty-: no, leave it as-is. |
| 00:06.06 | z36ra | help please. |
| 00:06.07 | dargeer | hi - anyone compile iptables from source tar? |
| 00:06.11 | dusty- | ok |
| 00:06.17 | Kofif | where is the ide chipset value hides ? |
| 00:06.21 | epsilon | dargeer: i did once |
| 00:06.24 | jelly | dusty-: just change the protocol and try again. |
| 00:06.37 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: ever priced recovery jobs at, e.g., ontrack.com? |
| 00:06.39 | afabian | Malagmyr, you might be able to do something with LVM, partition the disk into three separate partitions with parity information like a RAID 5 array. But modern drives already tend to transparently hide bad-sector errors. |
| 00:06.47 | benjamindees | Kofif, block devices |
| 00:06.48 | dusty- | worked, thanks jelly |
| 00:06.51 | stew | Kofif: block devices |
| 00:06.56 | hawking | Friends I have a corrupt package that neither apt-get nor aptitude or dpkg removes ... my apt-get doesn't work and I am just lost ... can someone please help me? I have put all info about it here http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:07.04 | eeyore- | much better off investing in another hard drive and back up stuff to it periodically |
| 00:07.09 | andax | Kofif: give the kernel the correct root=/dev/hdXY parameter |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | afabian: sure, but not always completely, just badly enough for regular software not to read it correctly. Like, I recently used a windows program to recover files from my brothers old drive which was spinning down without warning every 10 seconds. The program just sat there and started it up and continued. Took a few hours, but it worked. That was on NTFS. I need a more linux-compatible filesystem than that, which has similar programs |
| 00:07.17 | Malagmyr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:07.19 | stew | hawking: show us the actual output from apt-get remove |
| 00:07.35 | stew | hawking: use a pastebin, don't paste here |
| 00:07.38 | Kofif | cant seem to find that value |
| 00:07.40 | dargeer | epsilon - the install says to give the location of the kernel in the make line - but does a 'make' by itself give a good compile? |
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| 00:07.42 | z36ra | fresh Sarge install and dble-click in Konqeror wont open a text file in /usr/share/doc. |
| 00:07.47 | z36ra | whats up? |
| 00:07.49 | Kofif | its 2.6.15 ( was originaly ) |
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| 00:07.57 | eeyore- | hawking: short answer, modify the pre/post-remove scripts (/var/lib/dpkg/info/) and add "exit 0" after the first #/... line |
| 00:07.58 | andax | Kofif: /boot/grub/menu.lst or /etc/lilo.conf |
| 00:08.22 | Kofif | andax we are talking about kernel compile config mate. |
| 00:08.23 | stew | Kofif: device drivers -> ata |
| 00:08.29 | hawking | eeyore - trying |
| 00:08.33 | z36ra | Anyone else have that problem when installing from DVD? |
| 00:08.39 | jelly | dusty-: your firewall doesn't pass passive ftp connections. You might want to investigate and correct the configuration. |
| 00:08.50 | g33k | thanks for the zip help...How do I get this command that i use to start my gameserver to contiue running after I close putty |
| 00:09.04 | dusty- | jelly, thats normal and its too much of a hastly |
| 00:09.07 | dusty- | http is fine |
| 00:09.10 | g33k | I noticed that the gameserver closes when I close putty |
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| 00:09.12 | stew | g33k: use screen |
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| 00:09.15 | z36ra | Im gonna go out on a limb and say nobody is listening to me. |
| 00:09.28 | g33k | ok that was in the tutorial |
| 00:09.29 | epsilon | g33k: screen or fork |
| 00:09.37 | stew | z36ra: ask in #debian-kde |
| 00:09.41 | eeyore- | z36ra: or, we don't have your problem :-> |
| 00:09.42 | Kofif | well i got an MSI combo-2 motherboard , should have then just about every option / module included right ? |
| 00:09.47 | g33k | so how do I get back to that screen when I log in again? |
| 00:09.48 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:09.55 | eeyore- | z36ra: you do know about double-click speed, right? |
| 00:09.57 | andax | Kofif: type lspci and check for the chipset you have |
| 00:09.58 | epsilon | screen -r |
| 00:10.06 | z36ra | stew, thanx... good suggestion |
| 00:10.12 | Kofif | good idea hang on ! , |
| 00:10.16 | g33k | screen -r gives you a list or somethin? |
| 00:10.43 | epsilon | g33k: RTFM |
| 00:10.43 | stew | g33k: screen -ls |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | k that makes sense |
| 00:10.43 | g33k | cool |
| 00:10.47 | Kofif | ahh good to be back with linux, its all comeing back too me now :] i had a long time off from computers used to be a bash geek :] |
| 00:10.58 | Malagmyr | Are there programs similar to EasyRecovery available for Linux? |
| 00:11.07 | epsilon | g33k: if you prefer to refuse reading manual pages, stay with windows ot suse |
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| 00:11.30 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: i don't see a reason why you need a "recovery" program ... |
| 00:11.45 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's a hardware failure, no software is gonna fix that |
| 00:12.20 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: and if the hardware doesn't fail "enough" for software to still function, why then, you still don't need a software besides dd/dd_rescue |
| 00:12.24 | epsilon | what does EasyRecovery do? |
| 00:12.29 | andax | it sales |
| 00:12.33 | Kofif | lspci gives me a lot of intel :] |
| 00:12.42 | Kofif | so i belive i should go for intel. |
| 00:12.50 | andax | Kofif: so you need to put * for all intel |
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| 00:13.18 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: those programs do work in some cases. i just wanted the filesystem on the new machine to be easy to recover stuff from in such cases. just an idea i got, really. |
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| 00:13.52 | Kofif | yes andax i know , thank you :] |
| 00:13.53 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: admirable, won't work. backup/restore is your real choice. |
| 00:14.12 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: say a drive suddenly got bad sectors in the directory thingy part that says where all the files are, those programs can scan the drive and still find most of the files. |
| 00:14.14 | g33k | saying screen not found |
| 00:14.21 | Kofif | ok doing make ! |
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| 00:14.33 | stew | g33k: apt-get install screen... |
| 00:14.39 | stew | Kofif: /msg dpkg kp |
| 00:14.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: but, you do have backup superblocks |
| 00:14.57 | benjamindees | Malagmyr, ext2 is probably your best bet |
| 00:15.06 | falkon | I'm very confused right now. I installed a package that says it was compiled with the -lcrypt option and the password in the configuration file must be encrypted. how do I do this with makepasswd? |
| 00:15.07 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: regardless of what filesystem I use and they all make the same amount? |
| 00:15.10 | g33k | opps had the syntax backwards... I tried apt-get screen install...c you guys are making progress |
| 00:15.16 | Kofif | something new stew ? |
| 00:15.18 | g33k | I tried something first |
| 00:15.23 | Malagmyr | ext2 it is, then |
| 00:15.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, just don't let it give you any sense of security. At all. If the data is important enough to worry about, come up with a real plan. But, yeah, ext2. |
| 00:15.26 | hawking | eeyore : I did what you said but that didn't work |
| 00:15.59 | stew | Kofif: no, its old |
| 00:16.03 | hawking | eeyore : I still get the same errors :(( |
| 00:16.25 | Kofif | never used that, |
| 00:16.31 | stew | hawking: we could help you a log better if you show us the actual errors |
| 00:16.40 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: no, ext2 |
| 00:16.42 | stew | ^g^t |
| 00:16.52 | epsilon | why not ext3 |
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| 00:16.57 | Solet | is there a command to make an iso similar to the tar command? where you give it your directory to make the tar out of, and the output path/filename of your finished tarball and it makes it? |
| 00:17.01 | eeyore- | hawking: time to be more specific. what package is it, and, which file did you modify, and how? |
| 00:17.01 | hawking | stew : did you see my paste? |
| 00:17.25 | afabian | Malagmyr, might want to use the drive's SMART reporting. |
| 00:17.25 | stew | hawking: no, where did you put it? |
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| 00:17.37 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs |
| 00:17.38 | robertj | heya all, does anyone know why there is no php5-mcrypt? |
| 00:17.40 | Malagmyr | afabian: that's already set up :) |
| 00:17.44 | stew | hawking: oh, you said you put it on channels.debian.net but didn't give us the url |
| 00:17.48 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/paste |
| 00:17.54 | hawking | stew : oops sorry |
| 00:17.57 | eeyore- | epsilon: ext3 = ext2 + journal, so it goes without saying :-) |
| 00:17.58 | g33k | That screen install is asking for the debian cd...right now i'm by the server but what do I do if I'm not..can you make it get files from the internet? |
| 00:17.59 | Solet | benjamindees:thx |
| 00:18.05 | stew | hawking: no, it should end with a number |
| 00:18.06 | hawking | stew : http://channels.debian.net/paste/1537 |
| 00:18.11 | hawking | stew : this is it |
| 00:18.21 | metaperl | so given that gcc has been updated for Debian/testing, when can I expect an upgrade of amarok? we are 2 major versions back |
| 00:18.48 | epsilon | metaperl: when it's done [tm] |
| 00:18.51 | jason^ | heh |
| 00:18.59 | hawking | eeyore - it's a package called lale ( lale.sourceforge.net ) it's a turkish-english dictionary file I put "exit 0" to the second lines of lale.postrm lale.postinst and lale.prerm |
| 00:19.00 | eeyore- | Malagmyr: if it's important enough, it's important enough to mirror on at least one other hardware. i mirror my important files (family photos, etc.) in three places |
| 00:19.19 | metaperl | epsilon: :) |
| 00:19.23 | eeyore- | hawking: and what's the result of trying to remove the package? |
| 00:19.26 | Kofif | stew what do i need this kp for actualy ? , i already know to make ; make install; vi /etc/lilo.conf;/bin/lilo -v;reboot |
| 00:19.41 | z36ra | stew, #debian-kde is dead as a doggon door-knob... hehe |
| 00:19.43 | jason^ | so gnome-applets got updated but not gnome-panel, and gnome-panel is the deps |
| 00:19.47 | hawking | eeyore - still same error |
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| 00:20.09 | z36ra | I dbl-click on a file in /usr/share/doc.. in konqeror and kwrite never opens. but if I right-click->open in->kwrite, it opens fine. What could the problem be? |
| 00:20.16 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: it's not that important. I keep such things on my desktop pc, which uses a mirrored hardware raid setup, while also rsyncing with an online server |
| 00:20.39 | Malagmyr | eeyore-: anyway. I'm using ext2 on that new machine now. thanks for the help :) |
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| 00:21.14 | z36ra | and yes, my mouse-speed is set correctly, eeyore- |
| 00:21.22 | z36ra | hehe |
| 00:21.22 | eeyore- | hawking: if i were you i'd edit the pre/post-install scripts too, same way :-) then force a reinstall, (and make sure your shortcut haven't been overwritten by reinstall). basically you just want dpkg to just STFU and install it first, so you could uninstall it. |
| 00:21.53 | chealer | z36ra: ask #debian-kde |
| 00:21.58 | benjamindees | z36ra, right-click, properties, click on little wrench, what does it list in application preference order? |
| 00:22.04 | eeyore- | hawking: classic debian chicken-and-egg problem where you can't uninstall if it hasn't been fully installed |
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| 00:22.48 | eeyore- | and the corresponding --remove |
| 00:22.51 | hawking | eeyore - package is not in repositories I installed it from a deb file |
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| 00:23.04 | eeyore- | hawking: same thing |
| 00:23.20 | hawking | so should i do apt-get install --STFU package.deb? |
| 00:23.29 | Kofif | lol |
| 00:23.32 | eeyore- | hawking: no, there really isn't an --stfu option :-) |
| 00:23.40 | benjamindees | z36ra, then click on embedding, what does it say for left-click action? |
| 00:23.41 | Kofif | well |
| 00:23.45 | Kofif | we can make one |
| 00:23.47 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/i/want/iso/of/ -abstract /image.iso is the command to build everything in the directory "/dir/i/want/iso/of/" into an iso at root called "image.iso"? |
| 00:23.50 | Kofif | kinda easy :] |
| 00:23.57 | kspath | so true |
| 00:24.01 | eeyore- | hawking: look. let's look at your problem logically. |
| 00:24.02 | hawking | there is no solution and everyone is making fun of that |
| 00:24.10 | hawking | eeyore - sure |
| 00:24.15 | eeyore- | hawking: what's the problem? package can't be uninstalled, right? |
| 00:24.20 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.23 | eeyore- | hawking: because it hasn't been fully installed, right? |
| 00:24.30 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
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| 00:24.40 | Kofif | apt-get install -f ? |
| 00:24.44 | eeyore- | hawking: so, the script in /var/lib/dpkg/info/* is failing right? (specifically pre/post install) |
| 00:24.50 | hawking | eeyore- yes |
| 00:24.52 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how to make the script not fail? |
| 00:25.05 | eeyore- | hawking: you can either debug them, or, just exit out early with 0 return code, right? |
| 00:25.05 | Kofif | or -f install even |
| 00:25.12 | benjamindees | Solet, no, you don't need -abstract |
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| 00:25.29 | benjamindees | Solet, you need -o filename.iso |
| 00:25.30 | eeyore- | hawking: but, when you "dpkg -i foo.deb", you also unpack the package (including scripts), right? |
| 00:25.40 | Solet | benjamindees: so mkisofs /dir/ -o image.iso |
| 00:25.46 | eeyore- | hawking: so if you edited the scripts as they exist now, they will be overwritten by "dpkg -i", right? |
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| 00:25.53 | eeyore- | hawking: so, how do you solve that? |
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| 00:26.09 | benjamindees | Solet, mkisofs -o image.iso /dir/ |
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| 00:26.22 | eeyore- | hawking: can you see the problem, and its solution, in step-by-step order? |
| 00:26.22 | Solet | thanks |
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| 00:26.43 | myamarti | What is the status of Creative Soundblaster X-Fi support |
| 00:27.02 | star-trekio | jesus |
| 00:27.07 | dos000 | anyone know (or have expereence) for an out of band management console that has like 8/16 ports for configuring servers ? |
| 00:27.14 | star-trekio | I don't know if I'm smart enuf to be a lnux admin any more |
| 00:27.24 | star-trekio | I really don't know anything |
| 00:27.28 | star-trekio | it's horrible |
| 00:27.30 | star-trekio | :( |
| 00:27.42 | eeyore- | dos000: lots of people sell serial terminal servers .... |
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| 00:27.47 | sexy_girl | http://neoh59.free.fr/sphpblog/images/mypic.exe <--take look my sexy pic and dont forget vote for it |
| 00:27.51 | Kofif | why are you saying that ? |
| 00:28.02 | eeyore- | dos000: unless you want to simulate keyboard/screen, then it gets real expensive |
| 00:28.11 | Kofif | LOL right .exe botnet file in a linux channel, very smart :] |
| 00:28.27 | eeyore- | oooh, an .exe |
| 00:28.28 | Tchiak | :P |
| 00:28.29 | benjamindees | heh |
| 00:28.32 | eeyore- | riiiiiight |
| 00:28.34 | sabin | i need help with tv tuner for ati radeon all in wonder |
| 00:28.41 | Kofif | that's a smart person lol |
| 00:28.42 | eeyore- | call it "mypic.scr", why don't you? |
| 00:28.43 | dos000 | eeyore-, i just want to login remotly from a different port and not have to drive 400 km to the data center |
| 00:28.48 | sabin | if anyone has that working could you please msg me |
| 00:29.04 | eeyore- | dos000: if it's just *one* machine, sure, www.pc-weasel.com |
| 00:29.16 | diana | sabin: I have it working. |
| 00:29.34 | dos000 | eeyore-, its more than one machine .. at least 7 of them |
| 00:29.42 | sabin | diana, cool, can u tell me what you installed, i compiled and loaded that km thing from the gatos project, but no luck |
| 00:29.47 | eeyore- | dos9: buy seven cards :-) |
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| 00:30.33 | diana | sabin: /join #mythtv-users |
| 00:30.41 | Kofif | get a KVM |
| 00:31.07 | sabin | diana, thanks |
| 00:31.15 | eeyore- | Kofif: kvm doesn't, unfortunately, send your input/output over the internet |
| 00:31.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: unless you buy the super-expensive ones that will relay VGA output |
| 00:31.35 | zinx | eeyore-: that's what synergy is for |
| 00:31.41 | Kofif | pptp > internet > kvm |
| 00:31.43 | zinx | eeyore-: uhm, oh |
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| 00:31.49 | afaik | hello fols |
| 00:31.52 | afaik | afaik here |
| 00:31.53 | zinx | eeyore-: video could be a problem :D |
| 00:31.56 | Kofif | im talking about the super expensive one :] |
| 00:32.00 | dos000 | eeyore-, the video is not important here. if i can login via the serial port i am fine |
| 00:32.12 | eeyore- | zinx: and don't forget the bare-metal cases where he needs bios, no os, etc. |
| 00:32.17 | Kofif | my friend has it on his boxes , pretty nice setup. |
| 00:32.20 | afaik | is there a way to limit my own bandwidth? My computer sucks up all the internet and leaves not one drop for the roommates |
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| 00:32.23 | diana | !ops *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.23 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: *@d54C029C2.access.telenet.be host was spamming a windows virus url. |
| 00:32.28 | eeyore- | dos000: so buy a serial terminal server already :-) |
| 00:32.29 | zinx | i'm not entirely sure what he's trying to do |
| 00:32.39 | zinx | but it sounds like ssh or vnc would be the best bet :/ |
| 00:32.42 | dos000 | eeyore-, wich one ... any recomendations ? |
| 00:32.45 | dvs | afaik: And the problem is.... ;-) |
| 00:32.50 | RichiH | hmm |
| 00:32.58 | eeyore- | zinx: you can't do ssh/vnc unless/until your OS is up :-) |
| 00:33.02 | afaik | I mean, my roomates will be doing something online, I download something, BAM! My download speed is 90kB/s, theirs drops down to lie 1B/s |
| 00:33.04 | afaik | er |
| 00:33.06 | dondelelcaro | diana: there doesn't appear to be anyone here with that hostmask. |
| 00:33.07 | afaik | 1 kb/s |
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| 00:33.15 | helix | yeah, sexy_girl is gone |
| 00:33.16 | Kofif | VNC is a bad idea |
| 00:33.24 | helix | but haha at spamming windows viruses in a linux channel |
| 00:33.28 | afaik | for some reason my computer get priority |
| 00:33.29 | RichiH | klined |
| 00:33.41 | eeyore- | dos000: you have so many choices. pick the ones that advertise in linux magazine. cyclades, commtrol, for example |
| 00:33.41 | zinx | eeyore-: yeah, but exporting any sort of built-in console is a pretty bad idea unless it's via a local box |
| 00:33.44 | diana | dondelelcaro: /lastlog sexy_girl |
| 00:33.45 | helix | mmm, wine |
| 00:33.55 | dondelelcaro | diana: yeah, RichiH already klined it. |
| 00:34.05 | cafuego | helix: Speaking of you, women.alioth... is on the Jnuary LinuxFormat UK. |
| 00:34.05 | eeyore- | dos000: sorry, comtrol.com |
| 00:34.08 | cafuego | s/on/in/ |
| 00:34.09 | andax | afaik: google for "wondershaper" the first hit is the answer |
| 00:34.10 | helix | woo |
| 00:34.19 | afaik | thans |
| 00:34.30 | cafuego | blah |
| 00:34.30 | dondelelcaro | foo |
| 00:34.33 | dondelelcaro | s/foo/bar/ |
| 00:34.38 | dondelelcaro | ok, that's really freaking annoying... |
| 00:34.39 | cafuego | s/blah/that I am annoying when I use this feature/ |
| 00:34.40 | eeyore- | zinx: right, so you have a serial terminal server, plugged into the serial management ports, the terminal server itself has password control ... |
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| 00:34.57 | jpriest | psmouse.o seems to be missing from my kernel 2.4 that was installed with my network installed debian 3.1. Did I misunderstand something somewhere? |
| 00:35.18 | zinx | eeyore-: unencrypted password control |
| 00:35.20 | afaik | not apt-gettable? |
| 00:35.20 | eeyore- | zinx: and since the terminal server is TCP/IP, you can do whatever firewalling you want :-) |
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| 00:35.50 | eeyore- | zinx: you can even put the terminal server behind a VPN, and do your authentication in multiple layers |
| 00:35.52 | zinx | eeyore-: and nothing reasonably priced is going to have something that's encrypted before bootup |
| 00:36.01 | z36ra | benjamindees, konq aint working at all now. |
| 00:36.09 | Kofif | eeyore->that's what i told him .. |
| 00:36.10 | zinx | eeyore-: and that would be the "via a local box" approach |
| 00:36.11 | Kofif | PPTP |
| 00:36.32 | cafuego | pptp is nice & insecure. |
| 00:36.37 | Kofif | pptp get a local ip and the vnc or whatever will work only on your LAN ip class. |
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| 00:36.39 | dos000 | eeyore-, do i need to set something specific in the servers (debian sarge) to outpu the login via rs232 ? |
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| 00:36.49 | Kofif | why insecure ? you got something to tell us about ? |
| 00:36.54 | dondelelcaro | dos000: no, you just need a console on that serial port |
| 00:36.55 | eeyore- | dos000: it's your motherboard bios that does that. tyan motherboard? |
| 00:37.03 | khermans_ | Anyone know why my ~/.bashrm is not running when I SSH into my box? |
| 00:37.05 | cafuego | Kofif: Yeah, the encryption is uses is flawed. |
| 00:37.11 | khermans_ | *.bashrc |
| 00:37.18 | dos000 | eeyore-, they are ibm 336 pizza boxes |
| 00:37.21 | cafuego | Kofif: vnc works fine through a secure ssh tunnel. |
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| 00:37.36 | benjamindees | z36ra, ... because? |
| 00:37.52 | dondelelcaro | dos000: FE, uncomment #T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100; if the rs232 is ttyS0 |
| 00:38.46 | Kofif | Ok Ok done kernel recompile |
| 00:38.49 | eeyore- | dos000: well, if the bios itself doesn't support from-cold-boot output to serial port, there's only so much you can do. you have to wait for the OS to be somewhat up before you can any login. |
| 00:38.56 | staniel | im trying to set up dnsmasq, but ti seems to not be responding to DHCP requests |
| 00:38.58 | Kofif | configured everything , hope it will work ! :] |
| 00:39.03 | eeyore- | dos000: are you getting what we're trying to tell you? :-) |
| 00:39.19 | Kofif | again |
| 00:39.21 | Kofif | same error |
| 00:39.22 | Kofif | :| |
| 00:39.25 | Kofif | something is funny here |
| 00:39.33 | abrotman | funny how? |
| 00:39.36 | eeyore- | dos000: in other words, what's the benefit of serial login? if you had to wait for the OS to be up and running, you might as well ssh. |
| 00:39.40 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- i see that i need to change init scripts line. but i missed what the FE is for ! |
| 00:39.47 | dondelelcaro | dos000: For Example. |
| 00:39.51 | Kofif | i have reconfigured everything exactly as everybody adviced |
| 00:39.57 | Kofif | and again same error |
| 00:40.04 | Kofif | root |
| 00:40.06 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can get it to work with a serial console from grub loading on. |
| 00:40.30 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, do you have experience with ibm hardware ? |
| 00:40.32 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you just need to have grub connect to the serial console, and then the kernel use a serial console until login takes over. |
| 00:40.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: but you still can't do certain things like rebooting, for instance |
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| 00:40.43 | Lee__ | dose the sarge xorg backport contain the ati driver with 3d accelleration? |
| 00:40.46 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: you can't do that with a serial console anyway |
| 00:40.54 | benjamindees | Kofif, please find out exactly what your ide chipset is. |
| 00:41.06 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: with the pc-weasel you could get interactivity from bios boot on up ... |
| 00:41.18 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: including remote reboot |
| 00:41.21 | abrotman | why is he not using a debian kernel ? |
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| 00:41.38 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yes, but that requires bios support, and it's no longer just a serial console. |
| 00:41.47 | dos000 | eeyore-, i dont think i can add a pci card to these systems :-( |
| 00:41.47 | Kofif | abrotman dose problem for my machine the keyboard dosnt work with it . |
| 00:42.10 | g33k | how do I exit a screen without closing my putty session? |
| 00:42.14 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: in most cases, grub+kernel+login and a remotely restartable power plug are good enough |
| 00:42.16 | z36ra | i'm out |
| 00:42.18 | z36ra | later |
| 00:42.20 | Kofif | g33k ctrl + a + d |
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| 00:42.25 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: otherwise you need one of the cool add in PCI cards that does the whole thing |
| 00:42.26 | abrotman | how do you recompile a kernel if your keyboard doesn't work ? |
| 00:42.35 | dos000 | eeyore-, hopefully i can get a machine stable enough to send a reboot via the eth |
| 00:42.35 | eeyore- | dondelelcaro: that's the minimum for avoiding having to drive to work :-) (remote power socket) |
| 00:42.38 | Kofif | abrotman with the old one . |
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| 00:42.50 | Kofif | 2.2 |
| 00:42.51 | g33k | thanx |
| 00:42.56 | abrotman | Kofif: does 2.6.8 not support your kernel ? |
| 00:43.07 | Kofif | not working right on my system |
| 00:43.19 | dondelelcaro | eeyore-: yeah, it really just depends what you can afford; I'd much rather have it all than just a serial console... but a serial console is quite useful IME. |
| 00:43.25 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, what do i need to change in grub ? |
| 00:44.16 | dondelelcaro | dos000: you need a serial --unit=0 --speed=38400; terminal --timeout=10 console serial; or similar in your menu.lst |
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| 00:44.25 | abrotman | err not support your keyboard :) |
| 00:44.31 | dondelelcaro | dos000: then your kernel line needs to have a console=tty0 console=ttyS0,38400; or similar. |
| 00:44.34 | FarrisG | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:44.59 | abrotman | !info vncserver sarge |
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| 00:45.08 | dpkg | vncserver: (Virtual network computing server software), section x11, is optional. Version: 3.3.7-7 (sarge), Packaged size: 480 kB, Installed size: 1136 kB |
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| 00:45.11 | randomity | /join #perl |
| 00:45.27 | messia | randomity, :D |
| 00:45.28 | dos000 | dondelelcaro, eeyore- thanks you guys. now i know what to google for ! |
| 00:45.35 | randomity | woops |
| 00:45.35 | khermans_ | Would anyone know why ~/.bashrc wouldn't execute on an SSH login? |
| 00:45.50 | abrotman | khermans_: did you read the file or .bash_profile ? |
| 00:46.03 | threat | khermans_, your shell isnt bash? |
| 00:46.04 | eeyore- | KVM-over-IP, http://www.kvms.com/startech_kvm_over_ip_switches.asp $2900 :-)))) |
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| 00:46.06 | dondelelcaro | khermans_: because .bashrc isn't executed on a login shell. man bash; |
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| 00:46.33 | threat | khermans_, I belive .profile is executed on logon though |
| 00:46.39 | eeyore- | that's a lot of mileage reimbursements |
| 00:46.47 | Kofif | check out /etc/skel |
| 00:46.56 | ryan` | is it possible to hardlink directories? |
| 00:47.03 | randomity | ryan`, no. |
| 00:47.11 | sagar_ | how come i cant find xserver-xorg on any of the stable repositories?? is it only in testing or something? |
| 00:47.14 | Kofif | err again kernel panic :[ |
| 00:47.18 | khermans_ | threat, the shell is bash |
| 00:47.19 | randomity | ryan`, why do you want to anyway? Symlinks are better |
| 00:47.29 | threat | ryan`, no, a hardlink is a directory in the sense of the inode table :) |
| 00:47.31 | Kofif | unable to mount root fs on unknown block |
| 00:47.46 | Kofif | why WHY WHY ! :[ what am i doing wrong |
| 00:47.49 | abrotman | khermans_: you were given two answers |
| 00:47.58 | abrotman | well .. mine was more of a self help thing .. |
| 00:48.01 | randomity | Kofif, what's wrong? |
| 00:48.05 | threat | khermans_, yes, .bash_profile and .profile |
| 00:48.10 | eeyore- | Kofif: well, it's either the driver or the filesystem ... remember? |
| 00:48.16 | Kofif | VFS |
| 00:48.23 | Kofif | yeah well i got both configured |
| 00:48.24 | eeyore- | Kofif: did you remember to compile in the driver into the kernel? ext2? |
| 00:48.25 | threat | VFS is great |
| 00:48.31 | khermans_ | threat, if I use ~/.profile, will that also apply to other shells ? |
| 00:48.32 | Kofif | yes. |
| 00:48.33 | eeyore- | Kofif: prove it to me, baby |
| 00:48.36 | ryan` | randomity: I'm doing some development with subversion, keeping both a code tree and a base filesystem in svn. I can't use symlinks because svn handles them in a special way |
| 00:48.40 | randomity | e |
| 00:48.44 | abrotman | khermans_: did you even read what dondelelcaro said? |
| 00:48.48 | khermans_ | abrotman, yes |
| 00:49.01 | abrotman | khermans_: then you have your answer .. .bashrc will not work .. use .bash_profile |
| 00:49.03 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:49.04 | khermans_ | abauer, i am manning bash right now |
| 00:49.08 | threat | khermans_, I dont know :) man profile? but you can also have a if statement in there, if [ $TERM == "bash" ] or something |
| 00:49.39 | Kofif | :\ |
| 00:49.43 | abrotman | threat: he's been given the answer |
| 00:49.51 | threat | abrotman, ok :) |
| 00:49.54 | Kofif | i have selected |
| 00:49.57 | Kofif | every fs |
| 00:50.03 | abrotman | hrm .. what to eat |
| 00:50.05 | hborger | is there any way to pass artsd audioserver traffic through ssh |
| 00:50.08 | eeyore- | Kofif: i want to see CONFIG_...=y |
| 00:50.12 | Kofif | hang on |
| 00:50.24 | randomity | hborger, does it run over TCP? |
| 00:50.27 | Kofif | whats the value name ? |
| 00:50.29 | staniel | could anyone help me with dnsmasq? |
| 00:50.34 | hborger | randomity, is that a trick question? |
| 00:50.46 | eeyore- | Kofif: CONFIG_EXT2_FS |
| 00:50.52 | Kofif | ok |
| 00:50.52 | khermans_ | hborger, yeah link it up with ssh |
| 00:50.54 | pureone | staniel: just state the problem :) |
| 00:50.57 | Kofif | let me reboot |
| 00:50.59 | Kofif | 2 secs |
| 00:51.05 | sagar_ | is xserver-xorg even on the debian servers at all? |
| 00:51.11 | randomity | hborger, no, I don't know. If it's TCP, you can use SSH, if it's UDP, you can't |
| 00:51.11 | Kofif | err im going to get a smoke , this will be fixed TODAY |
| 00:51.20 | eeyore- | Kofif: nine minutes |
| 00:51.25 | Kofif | time is : 02:51:24 AM |
| 00:51.28 | hborger | khermans_, I asked here cuz i couldn't find anythingonmy own, got any links? |
| 00:51.29 | abrotman | smoking is kind of like rebooting :) |
| 00:51.32 | eventide | sagar_: topic? |
| 00:51.36 | hborger | abrotman, lol |
| 00:51.47 | eeyore- | abrotman: not coma? |
| 00:51.51 | khermans_ | hborger, i know how to tunnel any TCP data through SSH with plink on windows -- should be the same here |
| 00:51.59 | khermans_ | hborger, google tunnel ssh tcp |
| 00:52.00 | eeyore- | abrotman: or is that like ... hybernating |
| 00:52.05 | abrotman | eeyore-: are you hitting on me again? |
| 00:52.13 | sagar_ | eventide: oooh =P |
| 00:52.19 | Kofif | well |
| 00:52.24 | Kofif | everything is set to y |
| 00:52.32 | hborger | khermans_, I basically want a remote application to use the local soundserver and output sound locally instead of remotely |
| 00:52.32 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS=y |
| 00:52.35 | staniel | pureone: the dhcp portion doesn't seem to responde to dhcp requests |
| 00:52.36 | kspath | apt-get install job fails |
| 00:52.45 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XATTR=y |
| 00:52.46 | abrotman | kspath: you need a new source |
| 00:52.47 | hborger | khermans_, while I am logged in ssh -X to the remote machine |
| 00:53.02 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_PODIX_ACL=y |
| 00:53.09 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_POSIX_ACL=y ( even ) |
| 00:53.18 | khermans_ | hborger, basically you want the sound from your remote X session to be played locally? |
| 00:53.23 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_SECURITY=y |
| 00:53.25 | pureone | staniel post your dnsmasq.conf into pastebin.com |
| 00:53.29 | Kofif | CONFIG_EXT2_FS_XIP=y |
| 00:53.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: now show me the CONFIG_ for your chipset |
| 00:53.31 | abrotman | kspath: come on .. it was funny |
| 00:53.34 | abrotman | Kofif: STOP PASTING |
| 00:53.41 | Kofif | im not pasting im typing :] |
| 00:53.46 | abrotman | !paste |
| 00:53.47 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 00:53.52 | abrotman | just paste the whole thing somewhere |
| 00:53.58 | dvs | here? |
| 00:54.00 | dvs | ;-) |
| 00:54.09 | khermans_ | hborger, i dont see why you have to use ssh though |
| 00:54.13 | hborger | khermans_, yes. sound server is configures and listening on tcp 16001. remote machine's user enviremont ARTS_SERVER=localmachine's ip:16001 but it cannot connect |
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| 00:54.37 | Kofif | how do we call that one ? |
| 00:54.40 | khermans_ | hborger, is that port firewalled? |
| 00:54.44 | hborger | khermans_, i suspect it can't connect because ssh isn't passing audioserver traffic, only X traffic |
| 00:54.45 | Kofif | the chipset value |
| 00:54.53 | hborger | khermans_, no firewalls exist on internal network |
| 00:55.06 | hborger | its totally cut off from theinternet |
| 00:55.20 | khermans_ | hborger, well you dont need ssh then |
| 00:55.41 | khermans_ | hborger, you need to connect the remote tcp/16001 to the local tcp/16001 |
| 00:55.43 | hborger | khermans_, it is configure properly, on both machines, the remote machine says conenction refused |
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| 00:55.57 | Kofif | ? |
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| 00:56.24 | khermans_ | hborger, yes because you are not allowing non-local users to connect to that port! |
| 00:56.27 | hborger | im sure its something trivial or stupid that i'ml looking over |
| 00:56.29 | eeyore- | Kofif: what kind of IDE controller is it? drive kind? PATA, SATA, what? |
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| 00:56.44 | hborger | hborger, how would I allow that to be otherwise |
| 00:56.49 | Kofif | i have both ordinary ATA and SATA |
| 00:57.01 | kspath | wget http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-armed_router |
| 00:57.03 | eeyore- | four minutes |
| 00:57.08 | khermans_ | hborger, make sure that port tcp/16001 allows your local IP address range (192.168.x.x) and not only 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:57.10 | Kofif | and i am useing the old one the ordinary ide |
| 00:57.25 | hborger | khermans_, where would I check for this? |
| 00:57.30 | khermans_ | hborger, iptables |
| 00:57.38 | Kofif | why are we counting minutes ? :] |
| 00:57.40 | khermans_ | hborger, or in the sound config file |
| 00:57.48 | staniel | pureone: http://pastebin.com/501798 |
| 00:57.49 | hborger | khermans_, I have never configured ip tales |
| 00:57.57 | hborger | it shouldn't have any rules in it actually |
| 00:57.58 | khermans_ | hborger, something is telling it to only listen on 127.0.0.1 |
| 00:58.10 | hborger | hmm |
| 00:58.12 | hborger | ok |
| 00:58.18 | khermans_ | hborger, try this --> nc localhost 16001 |
| 00:58.21 | hborger | let me find out where artsd leeps its conf |
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| 00:58.44 | hborger | nc? |
| 00:58.55 | khermans_ | hborger, then, on the other machine, try --> nc myOtherHost 16001 |
| 00:59.04 | hborger | what package provides nc |
| 00:59.15 | khermans_ | hborger, yea --> aptitude install netcat ? |
| 00:59.16 | eeyore- | bbl |
| 00:59.28 | hborger | done, hold |
| 00:59.32 | pureone | staniel: seems ok it should work |
| 00:59.59 | staniel | pureone: umm... well... it doesn't? |
| 01:00.02 | khermans_ | hborger, nc will help you determine what is going on with that port |
| 01:00.10 | hborger | localhost [127.0.0.1] 16001 (?) : Connection refused |
| 01:00.11 | hborger | thanks |
| 01:00.14 | hborger | good tool |
| 01:00.20 | hborger | i wonder wtf is up |
| 01:00.29 | pureone | staniel: dnsmasq is listening on port 67? |
| 01:00.43 | khermans_ | hborger, is this a TCP server or UDP server? |
| 01:00.52 | hborger | i don't know man |
| 01:00.52 | staniel | pureone: umm... I didn't set any non-standard port |
| 01:00.56 | hborger | its artsd -n |
| 01:01.01 | khermans_ | hborger, netstat -al | grep -i art |
| 01:01.13 | hborger | nothing |
| 01:01.20 | pureone | staniel: check if it is |
| 01:01.27 | staniel | pureone: how? |
| 01:01.31 | hborger | lol |
| 01:01.33 | hborger | how the hell |
| 01:01.36 | hborger | its not even running |
| 01:01.37 | hborger | hold on |
| 01:01.41 | pureone | netstat -tupln | grep dnsmasq |
| 01:01.43 | khermans_ | hborger, ???~?~? |
| 01:02.04 | staniel | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:67 0.0.0.0:* 26382/dnsmasq |
| 01:02.14 | pureone | then yes it is |
| 01:02.19 | hborger | ok here we go |
| 01:02.39 | star-trekio | whos got a debian powered site I can look at? |
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| 01:02.46 | staniel | pureone: so why doesn't dhclient on the client system not get a dhcp response? |
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| 01:03.27 | hborger | nc localhost 16001 outputs MCOP aRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa86md5aut... |
| 01:03.36 | pureone | staniel: here is my dnsmasq diff'ed to yours http://pastebin.com/pastebin.php?diff=501809 |
| 01:03.40 | hborger | so at least it can connect locally |
| 01:03.43 | hborger | sound works too |
| 01:03.48 | hborger | let me test it from the other machine |
| 01:04.10 | pureone | mine seems to work, so i dont really get it... |
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| 01:04.24 | pureone | you do see the dhcp broadcasts with tcpdump -i eth1 right ? |
| 01:04.53 | staniel | hmm... hold on then... im gonna try another cable.. just to see |
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| 01:05.07 | hborger | $>nc desktop 16001 on remote machine (desktop is my local machin'es name) MCOPaRts/MCOP-1.0.0 letme.getmyip.com-1c9b-43c5aa8md5au so it can connect remotely now |
| 01:05.08 | hborger | huh |
| 01:05.11 | hborger | i wonder wtf is goin on |
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| 01:05.52 | MrRagga | hi, i can't find zcat, which package do i have to install? |
| 01:06.10 | dvs | !find zcat |
| 01:06.22 | staniel | pureone: umm.. on the client or server side? |
| 01:06.25 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'zcat' (7 of 12): (/bin/zcat) in utils/gzip ;; (/usr/bin/dictzcat) in text/dictzip ;; (/usr/bin/zzcat) in utils/zziplib-bin ;; (/bin/bzcat, /usr/bin/bzcat) in utils/bzip2 ;; (/usr/lib/klibc/bin/zcat) in libs/klibc-utils ;; (/usr/share/backuppc/bin/BackupPC_zcat) in utils/backuppc ;; (/etc/fish.d/completions/{bzcat.fish|zcat.fish}) in shells/fish. |
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| 01:06.44 | dvs | MrRagga: looks like gzip |
| 01:07.04 | MrRagga | dvs: thanks a lot |
| 01:07.06 | hborger | khermans_, if you have been following what i've been saying, then apparantly remote machine can connect to local machine's sounder server, but when I play something, it plays, but there is no audio. local audio however works |
| 01:07.23 | dvs | MrRagga: You're welcome |
| 01:07.28 | MrRagga | dvs: apt-file search zcat didn't show me the result |
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| 01:07.44 | dvs | MrRagga: use apt-cache search |
| 01:07.57 | Kofif | <hborger> did you put the volume up ? |
| 01:08.00 | Kofif | in the mixer |
| 01:08.16 | khermans_ | hborger, ok now that you know it can accept remote TCP streams |
| 01:08.20 | Kofif | i forgot the name of that package . |
| 01:08.25 | hborger | volume levels are perfectly fine |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | g72:/var/www# apt-cache search zcat |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | dictzip - Compression utility for dictionary databases |
| 01:08.26 | MrRagga | zope-textindexng2 - full text index for Zope |
| 01:08.28 | khermans_ | hborger, we need to link the two ports in a tunnel |
| 01:08.28 | Kofif | sndconfig ? |
| 01:08.28 | MrRagga | dvs ^^^^ |
| 01:08.37 | hborger | khermans_, ok, lets links em |
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| 01:08.42 | khermans_ | hborger, :-) |
| 01:08.46 | staniel | pureone: no go on the tcpdump |
| 01:08.47 | hborger | hehe |
| 01:08.50 | branivado | Guerin, hello |
| 01:08.50 | dvs | hmmmmmmm |
| 01:09.04 | pureone | staniel: possible physical problem then? |
| 01:09.08 | benjamindees | any tips on adding a printer to debian wine? |
| 01:09.44 | pureone | brb |
| 01:09.47 | branivado | hello pureone |
| 01:10.00 | staniel | pureone: wouldn't think so... cause dhcp3-server was able to get requests |
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| 01:10.10 | pureone | hello branivado |
| 01:10.18 | dvs | hello ball |
| 01:10.45 | Solet | benjamindees: one last question with the mkisofs... if the directory i'm copying is a dvd-video disk... i'm guessing i want to use the -dvd-video flag... |
| 01:10.47 | hborger | khermans_, what keywords should I be looking on google for, I can't seme to find anything with 'tunneling ssh tcp ports' and combinations of such terms |
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| 01:11.06 | c7g | anyone knows an irc server that 8080 port is open ? |
| 01:11.08 | c7g | ? |
| 01:11.16 | grumpydog | Ever thought? 766 people in this channel and who it would be if we were all physically in the same room at an international convention, It would be great :) |
| 01:11.27 | grumpydog | *how |
| 01:11.37 | benjamindees | Solet, I'm not sure about that, sorry |
| 01:11.49 | khermans_ | hborger, you dont need ssh |
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| 01:11.54 | hborger | no it wouldn't. unless there was free weed |
| 01:11.54 | khermans_ | hborger, remove those terms |
| 01:11.56 | andax | c7g: what do you want to do exactly? |
| 01:12.02 | Kofif | O o O o O i hope this time the compile will Work! :] |
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| 01:12.11 | deepspaceant | guys i keep getting htdocs/.htaccess: RewriteEngine not allowed here - how do i fix this i keep trying but its not working |
| 01:12.15 | staniel | pureone: oops sorry, for some reason it wants to use bootp |
| 01:12.16 | Solet | grumpydog: i give it less than an hour before a brawl breaks out |
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| 01:12.19 | staniel | maybe thats why its not responding |
| 01:12.42 | grumpydog | c7g irc'd port on 8080 not really that is generally http port forward |
| 01:12.42 | Kofif | deepspaceant: That's about #apache |
| 01:12.50 | deepspaceant | #apache is quiet:( |
| 01:12.52 | grumpydog | Solet, heh yeah I doubt it though |
| 01:12.57 | m1ke | any thoughts on why it takes so long to mount an nfs share? |
| 01:13.01 | m1ke | dns resolves fine |
| 01:13.06 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:13.08 | Kofif | kernel panic |
| 01:13.10 | Kofif | same reason |
| 01:14.01 | abrotman | why can't you use a normal keyboard? |
| 01:14.11 | abrotman | because 2.6.8 doesn't support your new keyboard? |
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| 01:14.31 | andax | Kofif: type lspci |grep IDE and double check you have the correct chipset support in the kernel, then try adding the root=/dev/hdXY option to the kernel. |
| 01:14.31 | Kofif | dont know why its problematic. |
| 01:14.44 | grumpydog | abrotman, *nod* 4 wheel mouse works just fine |
| 01:14.48 | benjamindees | m1ke, power failures on the nfs server? |
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| 01:15.03 | abrotman | grumpydog: it's a keyboard isn't it ? |
| 01:15.24 | m1ke | no, why? server is up...nfs finally connects, but curious why so long |
| 01:15.45 | grumpydog | abrotman, I have np with debian and config...only ever asked once here for help in 5 years. |
| 01:15.47 | grumpydog | :) |
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| 01:16.14 | benjamindees | m1ke, firewall perhaps |
| 01:16.25 | m1ke | nope... |
| 01:16.32 | m1ke | maybe firewall on client? |
| 01:16.34 | m1ke | hmmm |
| 01:16.37 | m1ke | ill check |
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| 01:17.04 | Kofif | ok im cleaning up everything deleting everything and starting again :] |
| 01:17.09 | Kofif | bbl |
| 01:17.33 | m1ke | nope...stopped client firewall...same issue |
| 01:17.59 | abrotman | anyhting in the logs? |
| 01:18.05 | staniel | how do I stop dhclient from using bootp |
| 01:18.10 | grumpydog | dns has nothing to do it unless Bind is misconfigured RDNS could be the problem but for tld you have to normally wait 24 -48 hours for it to take effect. |
| 01:18.29 | grumpydog | Be patient |
| 01:18.51 | drp | which family of processors do the 386 kernel images encase |
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| 01:19.00 | abrotman | drp: that's a little vague |
| 01:19.02 | benjamindees | is it normal for bash to become utterly useless dealing with the same program in /usr/local/bin and in /usr/bin due to its stupid cache? |
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| 01:19.08 | grumpydog | drp pIII upwards |
| 01:19.08 | asg | !vagueness |
| 01:19.08 | dpkg | VAGUENESS MAKES THE BABY JESUS CRY! |
| 01:19.12 | Kofif | ok deleted all traces for 2.6.X |
| 01:19.14 | abrotman | grumpydog: no .. |
| 01:19.18 | m1ke | i thought it was lies |
| 01:19.18 | abrotman | that's not even close |
| 01:19.19 | drp | I'm wanting to upgrade my kernel but am not sure whether i need k7 or 386 |
| 01:19.25 | abrotman | drp: what is your CPU ? |
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| 01:19.42 | drp | iirc I think I have an athlon 1.4 thunderbird |
| 01:19.44 | Daedalus_ | drp: 386 and up. it won't be optimized for better processors (prentium pro, etc) |
| 01:19.47 | abrotman | drp: then k7 |
| 01:20.14 | Kofif | drp cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.18 | abrotman | drp: 386 is the LCD for generic linux kernels |
| 01:20.18 | andax | drp: if you just "think" then type cat /proc/cpuinfo |
| 01:20.20 | grumpydog | abrotman, np you take the call here :) |
| 01:20.26 | Daedalus_ | drp: sorry for the lag. Yeah, you want k7 |
| 01:20.28 | abrotman | grumpydog: good .. you were wrong :) |
| 01:20.41 | nevyn | Lowest Common Denominator |
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| 01:20.56 | abrotman | nevyn: yes .. that's what i meant |
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| 01:21.10 | nevyn | abrotman: took me 15 seconds to get there. |
| 01:21.11 | drp | i posted the specs in #flood |
| 01:21.23 | abrotman | drp: you have to tell us BEFORE you do that :) |
| 01:21.29 | andax | :) |
| 01:21.32 | drp | lol ... sorry |
| 01:21.35 | drp | i'll post again |
| 01:21.35 | dvs | drp: or use paste |
| 01:21.37 | nrdb | I have a problem with my raid5 setup. today my md1: is missing hdb2, in the /var/log/messages there is "Jan 12 10:10:55 mini-cl kernel: md: kicking non-fresh hdb2 from array!" can someone please explain this? can it be fixed? should I replace that drive? |
| 01:21.43 | falkon | find is fucked up. I'm trying to search for any file that ends in .mp3 in a certain directory. I type "find /part/to/files -name *.mp3" and it's not working |
| 01:21.51 | falkon | what do I do to get this |
| 01:21.51 | abrotman | drp: yes .. you want k7 |
| 01:22.03 | falkon | the man page has been no help whatsoever |
| 01:22.13 | drp | ok |
| 01:22.15 | drp | thanks abrotman Kofif Daedalus_ andax |
| 01:22.16 | abrotman | falkon: and what do you get? |
| 01:22.31 | falkon | nothing |
| 01:22.49 | falkon | zsh: no matches found: *.mp3 |
| 01:22.59 | falkon | even though there's mp3 files in there |
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| 01:23.16 | tengulre11 | HI,ALL! |
| 01:23.24 | andax | drp: go for the k7 |
| 01:23.30 | abrotman | falkon: does zsh support globbing ? |
| 01:23.41 | falkon | globbing? |
| 01:23.42 | Kofif | HI :] |
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| 01:24.05 | abrotman | falkon: roughly .. the * |
| 01:24.23 | falkon | dunno |
| 01:24.25 | Phated | globglobglob. |
| 01:24.29 | Phated | #zsh! |
| 01:24.35 | abrotman | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.35 | dpkg | somebody said qotd139 was <asg> stew: I've been beating the developers at work off for a while over ruby <abrotman> asg: you're a nice boss .. mine would never beat me off |
| 01:24.41 | abrotman | why .. every time?!?! |
| 01:24.47 | zinx | falkon: are they .mp3 or .MP3 or .Mp3 or .mP3? |
| 01:24.48 | Phated | Heh. |
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| 01:24.50 | staniel | pureone: ?? |
| 01:24.50 | Phated | !qotd0 |
| 01:24.50 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
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| 01:24.59 | pureone | back |
| 01:25.02 | raf256 | lol |
| 01:25.05 | andax | falkon: the correct syntax is find /media/mp3 -name '*.mp3' |
| 01:25.30 | zinx | **/*.mp3 will work in zsh, if they're in subdirectories |
| 01:25.42 | abrotman | andax: his original should work also |
| 01:26.13 | raf256 | !qotd0 |
| 01:26.13 | dpkg | < quadrata> debiant: well, I want to run aol on debian, but my cd only works in windows < quadrata> I'll brb, I gotta get some fruitcake. Hope you guys will help me with the aol soon. |
| 01:26.21 | pureone | staniel: i dont really see the problem but you should really be able to see dhcp requests in tcpdump |
| 01:26.30 | staniel | pureone: sorry, I do |
| 01:26.41 | pureone | staniel: what was it? |
| 01:26.47 | abrotman | ok .. that's just freaking odd .. find . -name *.mp3 works .. but if you use a path .. you need find ./path/ -name '*.mp3; |
| 01:26.53 | staniel | 20:26:37.485778 IP 0.0.0.0.bootpc > 255.255.255.255.bootps: BOOTP/DHCP, Request from 00:0f:b0:03:a5:27 (oui Unknown), length: 300 |
| 01:26.55 | abrotman | bah .. s/;/'/ |
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| 01:27.04 | grumpydog | bootstrapper |
| 01:27.10 | Kofif | you can updatedb;locate mp3 |
| 01:27.12 | Kofif | no ? |
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| 01:27.21 | falkon | I need to full path |
| 01:27.27 | falkon | and locate won't give it to me |
| 01:27.29 | abrotman | Kofif: well .. you can trim it even more |
| 01:27.31 | Kofif | that's full path. |
| 01:27.46 | falkon | no wait |
| 01:27.52 | falkon | I need to search in a certain path |
| 01:27.54 | Kofif | locate mp3 >>mp3.lst |
| 01:27.57 | staniel | and it keeps saying that until the client fails |
| 01:28.01 | falkon | and then have it spit out the whole path |
| 01:28.12 | staniel | pureone: maybe its dhclient.conf problems? |
| 01:28.22 | falkon | find /path -name '*.mp3' | cat >> file |
| 01:28.24 | Kofif | find /path/ -iname '*.mp3' >> /tmp/mp3.lst |
| 01:28.33 | Kofif | no need to use cat |
| 01:28.36 | pureone | possible |
| 01:28.40 | Kofif | directly pipe it to file. |
| 01:28.51 | staniel | pureone: could you pastebin yours? |
| 01:28.55 | abrotman | !uuoc falkon |
| 01:28.57 | falkon | >> is append, right? |
| 01:29.06 | phogg | falkon: yes |
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| 01:29.12 | abrotman | useless .. but original :) |
| 01:29.18 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501809 |
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| 01:29.43 | deadcat | can i share my printer on my linux box to a windows machine without samba? just use some ipp or http protocol? |
| 01:29.57 | grumpydog | * chou-chou (i=peanut@i.screwed.your.sister.while.you.were.a-w-a-y.org) has joined #debian <---- Nice you are welcome to my 38 year old sister :) |
| 01:30.08 | staniel | pureone: dhclient.conf? |
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| 01:30.22 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 01:30.23 | phogg | I could do this forever: cat /dev/zero | cat | tee /dev/null | sort -n | uniq | cat > /dev/null |
| 01:30.28 | abrotman | deadcat: lpr .. if you're lucky |
| 01:30.38 | abrotman | phogg: you dork :) |
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| 01:30.44 | grumpydog | omg phogg h3c SoldierX |
| 01:31.03 | deadcat | abrotman: i have cups right now |
| 01:31.04 | Kofif | yet again |
| 01:31.09 | Kofif | kernel panics |
| 01:31.13 | dvs | it worked? |
| 01:31.14 | SperMite | what line do you add in fstab to get a usbstick to work? |
| 01:31.15 | abrotman | deadcat: what size? |
| 01:31.27 | abrotman | !tell SperMite about vfatrw |
| 01:32.05 | andax | SperMite: a good guess would be "/dev/sda1 /mnt/stick vfat defaults 0 0" |
| 01:32.08 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:32.09 | deadcat | i am also having problem sending outgoing mail with postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo |
| 01:32.40 | phogg | unless it's uba. |
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| 01:32.48 | pureone | staniel: one sec sorry |
| 01:33.50 | pureone | staniel: http://pastebin.com/501843 thats it everything is commented out. all my dhcpclients work (windows and linux) |
| 01:33.51 | benjamindees | is anyone successfully using wine on SID? |
| 01:34.37 | pipeline | Yes, lots of people. |
| 01:34.46 | Sexy | hi people, i have a problem with "synaptic", it reports errors when i try to add some packages...i can copy/paste that report...but on private... |
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| 01:35.07 | asg | Sexy: /msg dpkg paster |
| 01:35.08 | staniel | pureone: damn, still doesn't work :( |
| 01:35.09 | benjamindees | what might I use to configure it? is there no longer a wine.conf? |
| 01:35.27 | pipeline | benjamindees: No, there is not a wine.conf. Use winecfg. |
| 01:35.31 | boxy | hey any ideas why all gnome apps take a bajillion minutes to load? |
| 01:35.47 | threat | boxy, aye!! :) hows the network going? :) |
| 01:35.53 | abrotman | boxy: because you're running gnome on a P133 ? |
| 01:35.57 | staniel | boxy: change your hostname lately? |
| 01:36.03 | boxy | threat, pretty good had to use an old driver |
| 01:36.03 | dvs | boxy: a 486 even... |
| 01:36.06 | boxy | staniel, don't believe i have |
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| 01:36.13 | boxy | dvs, abrotman P4 3.0 ghz |
| 01:36.13 | Kofiko | ? |
| 01:36.38 | Kofif | :] back , had to switch IP on lan |
| 01:36.39 | abrotman | boxy: well .. then there's something wrong .. my laptop which is slower .. doesn't take nearly that long to load gnome apps |
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| 01:36.46 | Kofif | abrotman can i pm you ? |
| 01:36.53 | solcito69 | te invito al primer foro de sexo gratis de la Argentina http://ezpartako3000.forospace.com hay fotos! y videos de gente comun! |
| 01:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: keep it in the channel please |
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| 01:37.01 | Kofif | ah |
| 01:37.02 | abrotman | wow .. spanish spam! |
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| 01:37.04 | boxy | abrotman, yeah heh it takes a couple minutes just to load rhythmbox (gnome) but any other app loads fine |
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| 01:37.14 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:37.15 | abrotman | if only i knew what he was giving away .. i'd give some to asg |
| 01:37.24 | Kofif | i want to give u root ssh , i cant seem to find the problem |
| 01:37.28 | Kofif | maybe you could find it. |
| 01:37.30 | abrotman | boxy: doesn't rhythmbox have to load your library? |
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| 01:37.47 | boxy | abrotman, i dont have but a couple cd's on my comp at the moment |
| 01:37.54 | boxy | its not just that its gnome apps in general |
| 01:37.56 | abrotman | Kofif: you sohuld never EVER give root to someone on IRC |
| 01:37.57 | Sexy | asg, and???I pasted it... |
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| 01:38.05 | threat | Kofif, I'll take root too thanbx :LP |
| 01:38.07 | Kofif | lol :] |
| 01:38.10 | Kofif | i know |
| 01:38.19 | Kofif | but im sitting for like 4 hours now |
| 01:38.23 | threat | abrotman, except me :) he should give me root |
| 01:38.25 | abrotman | boxy: well .. loads in about 2 seconds for me :) |
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| 01:38.29 | Kofif | on the same freaking problem and im getting fed up. |
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| 01:38.43 | boxy | abrotman, haha any ideas on what could cause this? my hostname has been set to debian since i installed it |
| 01:38.46 | abrotman | Kofif: i still don't understand why you're recompiling |
| 01:38.56 | Kofif | because the image wont help |
| 01:38.56 | asg | Sexy: pasted it where? |
| 01:38.56 | abrotman | boxy: did you try a strace? |
| 01:38.58 | Kofif | :\ |
| 01:39.04 | drp | ok so I just installed my new kernel ... do I need to reinstall the nvidia kernel module because when I booted up the my new 2.6 kernel it said somethign to the extent that it couldn't find or load it |
| 01:39.12 | Sexy | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
| 01:39.13 | boxy | abrotman, nope but i will now |
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| 01:39.16 | Sexy | asg, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1538 |
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| 01:39.20 | Solet | ok i have a problem with my mkisofs... the output file will be larger than 4 gig... how can i combind the tar command to make a tar family as it builds the iso so i can have multiple smaller chained tars instead of one huge file that wont fit |
| 01:39.23 | dvs | Kofif: The image won't help what? |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | boxy: granted .. i have nothing in ryhtmbox .. but still ... |
| 01:39.42 | Kofif | dosnt work dont know why. |
| 01:39.52 | Kofif | and the image is 2.6.8 |
| 01:40.13 | abrotman | Kofif: what doesn't work ? |
| 01:40.15 | boxy | abrotman, i just removed my playlist |
| 01:40.20 | boxy | and it's still takin forever to load |
| 01:40.23 | Kofif | im not into useing vuln kernels. |
| 01:40.29 | boxy | accept(11, {sa_family=AF_FILE, path=" <- this is where its sitting in strace |
| 01:40.33 | Kofif | abrotman the kernel / keyboard / FS |
| 01:40.37 | abrotman | Kofif: are you fucking telling me .. you're doing all this shit because you can't read a fucking DSA ? |
| 01:40.49 | Kofif | CANT READ? |
| 01:40.55 | Kofif | you want me to paste the CONFIG |
| 01:41.01 | Kofif | take a look |
| 01:41.03 | abrotman | do you know what a DSA is ? |
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| 01:41.19 | asg | Sexy: looks like the CD has errors. Try copying the deb to /tmp and see if the same thing occurs. |
| 01:41.26 | Kofif | maybe we call it something else here , im not from the US |
| 01:41.34 | joeyy | sweet my system is up look at my hardware http://nsevil.ath.cx/sysinfo.html |
| 01:41.36 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 01:41.37 | dpkg | methinks dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.38 | drp | !DSA |
| 01:41.38 | dpkg | dsa is probably Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 01:41.54 | abrotman | boxy: why is the path .. blank? |
| 01:42.03 | boxy | abrotman, my guess is as good as yours |
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| 01:42.09 | boxy | maybe thats where its stalling? who knows |
| 01:43.12 | Kofif | that's not helpfull |
| 01:43.14 | drp | do I need to update my nvidia kernel module when I upgrade linux kernels ? |
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| 01:43.18 | cafuego | !ops joeyy is a spammer |
| 01:43.18 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: joeyy is a spammer |
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| 01:44.38 | Sexy | asg, i think that CD is OK, but, few months ago i changed mount point of cdrom, and i had problems with synaptic, because he couldn't find cdrom...then i fixed it, but i think that i not fixed everything... |
| 01:44.39 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@68-185-138-107.dhcp.jcsn.tn.charter.com] by dondelelcaro |
| 01:44.41 | *** mode/#debian [-o dondelelcaro] by dondelelcaro |
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| 01:45.37 | asg | Sexy: perhaps. Can you view it from a terminal session. i.e., mount the mountpoint, ls /foo |
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| 01:46.10 | newbie2debian | hello |
| 01:46.12 | drp | I'm assumign you do but I'm not sure |
| 01:46.19 | abrotman | boxy: i can show you those two lines from when i run it |
| 01:46.25 | abrotman | boxy: /join #flood |
| 01:46.30 | newbie2debian | what is the command line that will allow me to configure my display from the bash prompt please? |
| 01:46.44 | benjamindees | !drxx |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | somebody said drxx was dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:46.45 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 01:46.45 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:47.00 | mentor | hmm |
| 01:47.27 | abrotman | name that tune? |
| 01:47.30 | newbie2debian | thanks |
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| 01:49.06 | asg | abrotman: I can name that tune in one note. Leaders and Followers -- Bad Religion |
| 01:49.21 | abrotman | asg: i think you're wrong .. mentor seems like a YMCA kind of guy |
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| 01:49.42 | Solet | whats the command for tarring the file "this.file" into a set of tarballs that are each 250MB big? and names like this001.tar this002.tar etc? |
| 01:49.55 | abrotman | Solet: split ? |
| 01:50.00 | asg | Solet: split(1) |
| 01:50.14 | dondelelcaro | Solet: tar to split, then cat to tar. |
| 01:50.33 | asg | dondelelcaro: that so sounds like the lyrics to a KMFDM tune |
| 01:50.35 | odla | abrotman: do you have 12 fingers? |
| 01:50.39 | boxy | odb, abrotman is a computer ;) |
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| 01:50.42 | dondelelcaro | odla: he's polydactylic. |
| 01:50.45 | cafuego | odla: abrotman is a perl script. |
| 01:50.47 | abrotman | boxy: do you want to see those lines? |
| 01:50.50 | abrotman | i am not a bot! |
| 01:50.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 01:50.56 | boxy | kidding. |
| 01:51.00 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.01 | cafuego | abrotman: script, not bot ;-) |
| 01:51.01 | foo | I have having some weird problems with grip. It doesn't rip or output anything. Here is the verbose output ... http://pastebin.com/501829 - any ideas? It goes through every track in about 1 second. |
| 01:51.05 | mfrisch | cyborg |
| 01:51.15 | abrotman | cafuego: then i must be a really good script! |
| 01:51.21 | boxy | abrotman, which lines? |
| 01:51.27 | abrotman | boxy: /j #flood |
| 01:51.28 | smacnay | are there still issues with the Debian kernel .deb packages newer than 2.6.12? |
| 01:51.35 | odla | abrotman would be an abusive bot |
| 01:51.38 | cafuego | abrotman: Didn'y you win someone the obfuscated perl code contest in 1996? ;-) |
| 01:51.41 | abrotman | i would not! |
| 01:51.44 | odla | and he would pick fights with ravenbird |
| 01:51.45 | boxy | abrotman, so what to do about it? |
| 01:51.57 | abrotman | cafuego: no .. that would have been my SPARC asm days .. |
| 01:51.58 | odla | and make him bite the pillow |
| 01:52.01 | odla | ha ha |
| 01:52.04 | boxy | i cant just throw it in there can i? lol |
| 01:52.15 | abrotman | boxy: no idea .. are you on testing/unstable ? |
| 01:52.21 | boxy | unstable |
| 01:52.27 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:52.37 | boxy | but abrotman even when i was on ubuntu i had the exact same problem |
| 01:52.40 | boxy | abrotman, bts? |
| 01:52.43 | abrotman | !bts |
| 01:52.43 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 01:52.56 | abrotman | boxy: do you restore your $HOME when you change distros ? |
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| 01:53.02 | boxy | nope |
| 01:53.17 | boxy | just my ~/music ;) |
| 01:53.42 | abrotman | boxy: maybe it's a bug in gnome2.12 ? |
| 01:53.47 | boxy | maybe |
| 01:53.59 | abrotman | i'm running testing .. so i'm still on 2.10 |
| 01:54.02 | boxy | anyone having problems with stability with firefox 1.5 |
| 01:54.08 | abrotman | everyone? |
| 01:54.17 | odla | boxy: i am |
| 01:54.19 | odla | use links2 |
| 01:54.20 | Solet | dondelelcaro: holy crap... this has not gotten so difficult that i think i may even have you stumped... ok i have a 4.7 gig dvd that i need the iso of (mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd) due to size restrictions of fat32 i am needing to tar it and split the tar into a chain of them (preferably 250MB), again because of size restrictions on the FS this all must be done in one line of command cause it cant get written to the hdd... |
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| 01:54.43 | boxy | odla, so your having the same firefox problem it just kinda hangs? lol |
| 01:54.44 | Solet | i have a gig of ram and no swap cause this machine is not normally a linux machine |
| 01:54.59 | Solet | s/not/now |
| 01:55.02 | odla | boxy: i've had it unexpectedly quit on me several times |
| 01:55.04 | boxy | abrotman, i might switch to testing |
| 01:55.13 | boxy | odla mine just hangs like a darche |
| 01:55.13 | abrotman | boxy: you can't downgrade |
| 01:55.15 | odla | boxy: i only use ff 1.5 when i can't use links2 or dillo |
| 01:55.22 | boxy | abrotman, why not |
| 01:55.37 | odla | boxy: you'll have to reinstall |
| 01:55.38 | asg | boxy: does 'ctrl+alt+f1' and then back to X (usually ctrl+alt+f7) fix things? |
| 01:55.45 | abrotman | boxy: it doesn't quite work that way .. i mean .. you'd have to purge gnome .. change your sources .. then *attempt* a downgrade |
| 01:56.13 | boxy | asg, nope |
| 01:56.15 | boxy | abrotman, heh |
| 01:56.20 | boxy | hell if im reinstalling this |
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| 01:56.39 | boxy | i have no cd's and am on wifi so i have to take my machine downstairs and chill there forever while i do a net install |
| 01:56.51 | boxy | i could always put it on testing and wait for testing to catch up ;) |
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| 01:57.15 | abrotman | you could .. but like i said . you'd have to purge gnome .. then try to isntall gnome from testing .. and it still might not solve the issue |
| 01:57.22 | abrotman | boxy: did you check the bts ? |
| 01:57.39 | boxy | yeah abrotman, no i didnt check it yet cause firefox is being homosexual |
| 01:57.51 | abrotman | boxy: now now .. that's a bad word |
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| 01:57.53 | cyber1|xoom | can someone please go through the steps of setting up a secondary name server with me? |
| 01:57.54 | Solet | tar -cvvf file.tar | grep mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd |
| 01:57.57 | odla | boxy: ff is a homosexual? |
| 01:58.00 | odla | ha ah |
| 01:58.11 | blockd | Solet: have you tried the -split-output option of mkisofs? They're still big but should fit. |
| 01:58.12 | boxy | Sorry if i offended anyone <3 |
| 01:58.20 | Solet | that will return a tar file with the image file of /hd/cd in it right |
| 01:58.31 | boxy | what about ff is a flamboyiant coked out hooker |
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| 01:58.34 | Kofif | yet agai |
| 01:58.34 | boxy | ?* |
| 01:58.35 | Kofif | n |
| 01:58.37 | Kofif | same problem |
| 01:58.43 | Solet | blockd??? there's a split-output? |
| 01:58.51 | boxy | abrotman, so how do i purge gnome? |
| 01:58.51 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: Not likely. But the DNS howto could help you with that. |
| 01:58.57 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 01:58.57 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 01:59.04 | cyber1|xoom | Flimzy: Where can I find that.? |
| 01:59.10 | blockd | Solet: either that or an elaborate hoax in my mkisofs man page ;) |
| 01:59.11 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: google.com |
| 01:59.18 | abrotman | boxy: probably want to kill gtk too |
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| 01:59.26 | Kofif | removed images , reinstalled kernel IMAGES from APT-GET option , configured boot loader , rebooted , and POW " login : _ " BUY the keyboard is not responding at all. |
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| 01:59.33 | Flimzy | cyber1|xoom: might also be called the bind howtoo |
| 01:59.42 | Solet | any paramaters that go with it? or just mkisofs -o image.iso /hd/cd -split-output ?? |
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| 01:59.58 | tengulre11 | hi,all! I want running a progrmm without root , how to write the shell script in /etc/rc.local? |
| 02:00.11 | abrotman | you can't |
| 02:00.11 | boxy | abrotman, is it often that unstable messes up? |
| 02:00.33 | asg | tengulre11: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | boxy: it's called unstable for a reason |
| 02:00.33 | abrotman | asg: but he's not root |
| 02:00.40 | Kofif | abrotman ^^ |
| 02:00.41 | boxy | abrotman, i understand that, but its basically how gentoo is and theres never really much of a problem with that? |
| 02:00.42 | abrotman | oh wait .. i misunderstood that |
| 02:00.48 | asg | abrotman: then he can use sudo if need be |
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| 02:01.03 | abrotman | Kofif: until i can figure out why you're trying to compile a kernel ..... |
| 02:01.08 | FarmerTom | How can I 'sync' a tarball with a directory? When I made the original tarball (about an hour ago) some files did not go in, but I do not know which they are. |
| 02:01.09 | boxy | abrotman, and then stable is just wayyy to old for a desktop in my opinion anyways |
| 02:01.10 | Kofif | NOT COMPILING |
| 02:01.21 | Kofif | its the image from apt-get |
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| 02:01.28 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
| 02:01.33 | abrotman | Kofif: is the keyboard usb? |
| 02:01.37 | Kofif | PS |
| 02:01.38 | phogg | FarmerTom: man tar. |
| 02:01.47 | abrotman | i htink your keyboard is broken |
| 02:01.54 | blockd | Solet: it's in the man page. None that I'm aware of but you need to use -o as well. |
| 02:01.57 | phogg | FarmerTom: specifically, see -u. |
| 02:01.57 | Kofif | it works with kernel 2.2 |
| 02:02.01 | abrotman | boxy: sometimes ... stuff in sid just explodes! |
| 02:02.09 | Kofif | works with windows 4.0 5.0 and xp. |
| 02:02.09 | FarmerTom | phogg, I'm currently on Windows (but using the GNU tar) so I don't have man. |
| 02:02.11 | FarmerTom | Okay, thanks |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | Kofif: did you install module-init-tools ? |
| 02:02.15 | boxy | abrotman, :P |
| 02:02.17 | pipeline | boxy: Sid is very much like using Fedora Core :| |
| 02:02.18 | Kofif | nothing broken ! |
| 02:02.24 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 02:02.24 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 02:02.27 | boxy | pipeline, heh what do you use testing? |
| 02:02.35 | phogg | FarmerTom: google for it. Lots of people host man pages |
| 02:02.46 | pipeline | boxy: Unstable, duh |
| 02:02.54 | boxy | ;) |
| 02:02.57 | Kofif | yes. |
| 02:03.04 | blockd | Solet: also, I'd put that option right after the mkisofs command, not after /hd/cd or whatever that is |
| 02:03.14 | abrotman | boxy: i'm a testing user . i'm in the minority of the regulars here |
| 02:03.24 | boxy | heh |
| 02:03.29 | Kofif | omg is pissing down with rain :] |
| 02:03.30 | Solet | whats the filesystem for dvd media? |
| 02:03.33 | Solet | i cant mount it :( |
| 02:03.36 | boxy | so most of the regulars use unstable? |
| 02:03.40 | pipeline | boxy: You see, abrotman likes his system to actually work. |
| 02:03.44 | boxy | haha |
| 02:03.49 | Solet | ops nvm it auto mounted |
| 02:03.56 | Solet | i feel retarded... (more so than normal) |
| 02:03.57 | Kofif | boxy i was on unstable for a long time a while back. |
| 02:04.07 | abrotman | boxy: yes .. but i like a working system .. i hate dicking with this package or that package .. that's the reason i started using debian ... cause stuff just works :) |
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| 02:04.15 | boxy | hah |
| 02:04.20 | boxy | yeah so far i like debian |
| 02:04.27 | Kofif | while i was working on some programing projects :] |
| 02:04.33 | abrotman | with unstable .. you can get some real damn annoying bugs |
| 02:04.33 | boxy | gentoo is a bit overrated as far as all the compiling goes |
| 02:05.01 | cleit0n | hi. how calibreted my joystick in debian? |
| 02:05.06 | threat | boxy, yeah, but you get a finer grain control :) |
| 02:05.11 | asg | abrotman: the Linux Gazette one was still the best |
| 02:05.18 | dvs | cleit0n: jscal |
| 02:05.20 | abrotman | asg: i don't remember that one |
| 02:05.33 | Kofif | i still remeber potato :] |
| 02:05.35 | asg | abrotman: you removed the package and it did an rm -rf / |
| 02:05.51 | abrotman | asg: oh .. yes .. i do remember that being mentioned |
| 02:06.03 | asg | abrotman: it's filed under 'horrid bugs' in greycat's sid faq |
| 02:06.03 | abrotman | Kofif: yes .. but do you remember that bug? |
| 02:06.09 | abrotman | hehe |
| 02:06.18 | boxy | threat, lol |
| 02:06.20 | Kofif | i was like 13 |
| 02:06.26 | Kofif | long time ago. |
| 02:06.51 | boxy | aight so now how should i go about this downgrading to testing im assuming im going to have to uninstall quite a few things |
| 02:06.53 | Kofif | im more into servers atm , less on desktops |
| 02:06.58 | cleit0n | dvs: what is this? Move axis 0 to minimum position and push any button. |
| 02:06.58 | Kofif | kernel 2.4.X |
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| 02:07.09 | asg | Kofif: the question is whether you can legally drink or not |
| 02:07.10 | Kofif | first time im trying to make a 2.6 :] |
| 02:07.13 | tengulre11 | I want to config a small system, anybody can give me some tips or example .config? |
| 02:07.23 | Kofif | yeah i can legaly drink :P |
| 02:07.39 | dvs | cleit0n: I'd move the joystick as far left as I can |
| 02:07.44 | afabian | It's interesting how old hardware works. New stuff works on Windows, because it came with a driver written by the vendor. Later, Windows makes some new versions, said hardware is long past support by the original vendor, but linux drivers tend to keep on living and working. |
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| 02:08.36 | pipeline | afabian: That's not true at all. |
| 02:08.40 | pipeline | afabian: Actually, the reverse is much more true. |
| 02:08.41 | odla | how do a copy something from xterm to a web browser? |
| 02:08.46 | odla | i.e. |
| 02:08.47 | z36ra | fixed it somehow |
| 02:08.59 | Kofif | odla with the middle button :] |
| 02:09.00 | dvs | cleit0n: jstest will print the various values if that's what you want. |
| 02:09.03 | abrotman | odla: highlight it .. then middle click |
| 02:09.06 | pipeline | afabian: Drivers from windows NT 3.5 will still work in modern windows. Have fun porting 90% of the drivers from Linux 2.0 to modern kernels -- most of them have been allowed to rot. |
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| 02:09.09 | odla | i don't have a middle button |
| 02:09.11 | z36ra | I installed wine and a few other things from the etch distro. |
| 02:09.12 | boxy | abrotman, so how should i go about my downgrade? |
| 02:09.16 | Kofif | so get one ! |
| 02:09.17 | pipeline | z36ra: That was very, very, very unwise. |
| 02:09.24 | abrotman | boxy: reinstall :) |
| 02:09.25 | asg | odla: click both left and right together |
| 02:09.26 | odla | no no there must be another way ;) |
| 02:09.33 | boxy | abrotman, i dont think so :p |
| 02:09.35 | afabian | pipeline, must have to do with my statistically insignificant sampling of hardware. |
| 02:09.41 | pipeline | afabian: That would be my guess. |
| 02:09.46 | pipeline | afabian: One issue with windows drivers |
| 02:09.59 | odla | asg: thank you! |
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| 02:10.06 | abrotman | boxy: you remove gnome/gtk .. change your sources .. install gnome .. pray |
| 02:10.09 | z36ra | pipeline, I dont know how unwise it could be to fix a broken cd install on a machine of very little importance |
| 02:10.11 | pipeline | afabian: Is that Windows NT doesn't support VxD hardware drivers. So a huge class of drivers all went obsolete at once in 1999, when Windows 2000 gcame out. |
| 02:10.15 | asg | odla: you're welcome |
| 02:10.20 | cleit0n | dvs: Joystick (DragonRise Inc. Generic USB Joystick ) has 14 axes ((null), (null), (null), Y, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X, X) |
| 02:10.20 | pipeline | z36ra: You've now hosed your system. Congratulations. |
| 02:10.23 | cleit0n | zsh: segmentation fault (core dumped) jstest /dev/input/js0 |
| 02:10.27 | odla | i love easy questions with easy answers |
| 02:10.32 | z36ra | I would say it's not THAT unwise |
| 02:10.32 | Kofif | well |
| 02:10.35 | boxy | abrotman, is there a easy way to remove all those packages? |
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| 02:10.44 | abrotman | !remove gnome |
| 02:10.44 | dpkg | apt-get --purge remove libgnome32 libgnome2-common (or ask me about "install gnome"), or after removing those, run 'aptitude' and look at section 'gnome' to remove the rest. |
| 02:10.48 | Kofif | any ideas why my 2.6 kernel wont recognize the keyboard ? :\ |
| 02:10.54 | z36ra | pipeline, it was hosed from the begining |
| 02:11.04 | odla | Kofif: it's not plugged in ;) |
| 02:11.18 | Kofif | get real mate |
| 02:11.27 | _fred | Hi! I am having a weird problem and don't find it referenced anywhere. When I start aMSN I cannot type anything in the login box. Other applications works fine though. I do sometimes have this same problem on some chat windows in Kopete. Any idea where I should look for? |
| 02:11.48 | z36ra | pipeline, I click and it works now... thats pretty simple. but I'll let you know if it stops working |
| 02:11.51 | dvs | Kofif: I've never heard of a PS/2 keyboard not working. |
| 02:11.54 | FarmerTom | Okay, I'm reinstalling I have all my stuff backed up, but I need to give my drive a through scrub. Earse totally everything, I have lots of 'bad sectors' too. What command do I issue when? |
| 02:12.01 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:12.05 | Kofif | 2.6.8 dosnt |
| 02:12.07 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:12.21 | dvs | Kofif: and 2.4.18? |
| 02:12.29 | abrotman | dvs: it would be 2.4.27 |
| 02:12.35 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:12.38 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:12.41 | dvs | abrotman: I like Woody better! ;-) |
| 02:12.43 | abrotman | dvs: he didn't know what he was doing when he installed woody either :) |
| 02:12.46 | Solet | "mkisofs: Input/output error. cannot read from 'the first file in my target path'" <--- what do i do? |
| 02:12.49 | Kofif | didnt try yet. |
| 02:13.03 | Kofif | 2.4.27 |
| 02:13.09 | Kofif | but i want 2.6.8 to work |
| 02:13.14 | Kofif | it dosnt make sence |
| 02:13.21 | dvs | not one bit |
| 02:13.58 | Kofif | apt-cache search kernel | grep smp | grep -v 27 | grep -v k7 | grep -v k6 | grep -v pcmcia | grep -v em64t | grep -v 8-2| grep -v amd | awk {'print $1'} | grep -v 4 |
| 02:14.01 | abrotman | Kofif: what version of module-init-tools do you have ? |
| 02:14.03 | Kofif | that's ok ? |
| 02:14.18 | Kofif | abrotman> it prints out " latest version " |
| 02:14.25 | grahamoz | hey i got a question |
| 02:14.25 | Kofif | i guess the latest... :| |
| 02:14.29 | grahamoz | about the new debian |
| 02:14.35 | grahamoz | the dvd version |
| 02:14.36 | Kofif | grahamoz so ask , dont ask to ask :] |
| 02:14.36 | boxy | !remove gtk |
| 02:14.37 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l module-init-tools |
| 02:14.44 | grahamoz | whats on dvd 2 ? |
| 02:14.46 | abrotman | boxy: dpkg -l | grep gtk |
| 02:14.47 | newbie2debian | what is the command line to pick my graphic card out of the list please? |
| 02:14.52 | abrotman | !drxx newbie2debian |
| 02:14.52 | dpkg | newbie2debian: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 02:14.59 | dvs | grahamoz: less popular packages |
| 02:14.59 | Kofif | ii module-init-to 3.2-pre1-2 tools for managing Linux kernel modules |
| 02:15.15 | grahamoz | so dvd 1 is only needed ? |
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| 02:15.21 | dvs | grahamoz: yup |
| 02:15.26 | Kofif | even 3.2-pre1-2 < |
| 02:15.33 | grahamoz | awesome |
| 02:15.43 | grahamoz | and is kde 3.5 in the new release ? |
| 02:15.49 | andax | grahamoz: topic |
| 02:15.50 | dvs | !info module-init-tools sarge |
| 02:15.50 | abrotman | the stable release . no |
| 02:15.52 | newbie2debian | whatis xmd5 |
| 02:15.54 | dpkg | module-init-tools: (tools for managing Linux kernel modules), section admin, is required. Version: 3.2-pre1-2 (sarge), Packaged size: 71 kB, Installed size: 292 kB |
| 02:15.59 | abrotman | !tell newbie2debian about xmd5 |
| 02:16.07 | grahamoz | hmm ok |
| 02:16.09 | odla | kde sucks |
| 02:16.13 | odla | !start a desktop war |
| 02:16.13 | dpkg | KDE owns you and your dog. |
| 02:16.17 | dvs | !lart odla |
| 02:16.17 | odla | no |
| 02:16.17 | Kofif | xfce :] |
| 02:16.19 | grahamoz | what about the new gnome lol |
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| 02:16.30 | abrotman | gnome2.8 in sarge |
| 02:16.40 | odla | the cool window manager |
| 02:16.48 | odla | w/ emelfm |
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| 02:16.57 | odla | the only way to browse your files |
| 02:16.58 | Kofif | abrotman so what dose that tell us ? |
| 02:16.59 | grahamoz | gnome 2.12 |
| 02:17.00 | drp | what do i need to do so that my new 2.6 kernel loads my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:17.11 | drp | it doesn't show up in modconf whenever i boot to my new 2.6 kernel |
| 02:17.15 | abrotman | Kofif: just wanted to make sure you actually had the ability to load modules with 2.6 |
| 02:17.16 | grahamoz | is there a list of the new packages |
| 02:17.17 | max | hey, are any of you guys experiencing any issues with recent updates to xorg packages... my computer keeps freezing |
| 02:17.23 | grahamoz | like on a site |
| 02:17.25 | vineetchadha | I am getting uable to locate tools.jar error when i run ant ? any clues |
| 02:17.27 | newbie2debian | thanks |
| 02:17.27 | max | after my last update |
| 02:17.28 | newbie2debian | brb |
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| 02:17.29 | abrotman | grahamoz: for sarge? |
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| 02:17.46 | max | this is on unstable btw |
| 02:17.47 | grahamoz | yes |
| 02:17.50 | grahamoz | the new one |
| 02:17.53 | grahamoz | 3.1 r1 |
| 02:17.57 | Kofif | abrotman: yeah well that's not helpfull as long as i cannot find what bugs my keyboard, maybe a language setting? |
| 02:18.05 | abrotman | grahamoz: there are no new packages .. except security update s.. |
| 02:18.13 | Kofif | i have 2 languages installed |
| 02:18.17 | odla | do i need to apt-secure my keyz now since i'm upgrading to etch? |
| 02:18.18 | abrotman | Kofif: you have no other keyboards ? |
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| 02:18.30 | arcane | whats a good 'keep my system date in order' app? |
| 02:18.40 | Kofif | the other one is USB and its ugly and dirty |
| 02:18.48 | andax | arcane: rdate ? :) |
| 02:18.48 | abrotman | arcane: ntp |
| 02:18.49 | Kofif | its a new pc man , i want to enjoy it . |
| 02:18.55 | crn | anyone tried the skype deb? |
| 02:18.55 | boxy | abrotman, i cant get a couple of gnome deps to install, blah blah depends: pkg but it is not going to be installed |
| 02:18.59 | abrotman | Kofif: why not try it .. see if ti works |
| 02:19.04 | Kofif | its USB |
| 02:19.09 | abrotman | and? |
| 02:19.15 | Kofif | hmm |
| 02:19.20 | vineetchadha | hi i installed ant in ubuntu ....running ant i get a message unable to locate tools.jar ...any idea ??? please help |
| 02:19.22 | Kofif | ok i guess we can give it a shot. |
| 02:19.24 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:19.34 | Kofif | init 6 |
| 02:19.37 | andax | Kofif: enable USB HID support in the kernel if it's not working. |
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| 02:19.45 | Kofif | yeah i know |
| 02:19.48 | Kofif | how to use USB |
| 02:19.59 | abrotman | jsut restart the machien with it plugged in |
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| 02:20.21 | Kofif | yep |
| 02:20.22 | cleit0n | dvs: not configure right |
| 02:20.26 | boxy | abrotman, nvm i got it |
| 02:20.28 | Kofif | that's what going on as we speak. |
| 02:20.32 | abrotman | boxy: yay! |
| 02:20.33 | boxy | i <3 aptitude :) |
| 02:20.38 | boxy | well its installing anyways |
| 02:20.42 | boxy | idk about if it'll work right haha |
| 02:20.48 | Kofif | dosnt work. |
| 02:20.56 | Kofif | same issue. |
| 02:21.10 | Kofif | and if i try to click the numlock |
| 02:21.17 | crn | arcane, wajig |
| 02:21.20 | boxy | abrotman, i might have fixed the firefox prob |
| 02:21.21 | Kofif | it stays on anyway i cannot change it |
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| 02:21.39 | abrotman | boxy: that's always a good side effect |
| 02:21.44 | abrotman | Kofif: which kernel did you boot ? |
| 02:21.51 | Kofif | 2.6.8 |
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| 02:22.34 | boxy | mmm gnome is still sucking though |
| 02:22.35 | abrotman | Kofif: if you boot back into 2.2 with your ps2 keyboard plugged in .. i want you to try osmething |
| 02:22.43 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:22.51 | Kofif | rebootin |
| 02:23.03 | Kofif | but it will take some time |
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| 02:23.12 | Kofif | fsck ... |
| 02:23.17 | Kofif | because it was stuck |
| 02:23.24 | Kofif | an i never skip those :] |
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| 02:24.04 | Kofif | im going to get that smoke i talked about an hour ago. |
| 02:24.07 | odla | what's the keyword for me to ask dpkg about why a package isn't in testing |
| 02:24.08 | Kofif | brb |
| 02:24.24 | arcane | i installed ntpd-simple, but my date/time is still wrong ;( |
| 02:24.52 | andax | arcane: tzconfig? |
| 02:25.12 | abrotman | !why is odla not in testing |
| 02:25.12 | dpkg | odla is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=odla |
| 02:25.21 | odla | abrotman: thanks |
| 02:25.22 | dvs | ha! |
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| 02:25.41 | crn | arcane, apt-cache show ntpdate |
| 02:25.43 | arcane | andax, its correct |
| 02:26.32 | Kofif | arcane ntpdate ntp.nasa.gov |
| 02:26.34 | andax | arcane: then run rdate time.nist.gov, and it will be fine |
| 02:26.58 | abrotman | use pool.ntp.org |
| 02:27.03 | abrotman | never ever hit a server directly |
| 02:27.04 | arcane | crn, sorry im new too debian - it told me about the package, nothing jumps out saying it is installed tho |
| 02:27.12 | Kofif | ? |
| 02:27.17 | Kofif | why not directly |
| 02:27.27 | abrotman | go read ntp.org |
| 02:27.30 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:27.31 | crn | arcane, apt-get install ntpdate |
| 02:27.33 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:27.35 | arcane | isnt rdate completely seperate too ntp, and rdate would need to be cron'd etc? |
| 02:27.48 | andax | arcane: that's correct. |
| 02:28.05 | arcane | so ntp is the best choice as it will constantly work out and keep the clock in order? |
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| 02:28.37 | Kofif | its mainly used to keep your logs dates correct. |
| 02:28.38 | arcane | how long does it normally take, my system is in tommorrow still |
| 02:28.39 | dvs | arcane: yup. ntpdate only updates on startup |
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| 02:28.51 | molinero | I need reconfigure cups |
| 02:28.56 | Kofif | ok |
| 02:29.08 | Kofif | abrotman ready as root. |
| 02:29.11 | crn | arcane, yep after you run ntpdate to get the time time close enough to be updated. |
| 02:29.13 | arcane | well if the server is up alot, then the date will fly out of order? what can i do about that |
| 02:29.45 | abrotman | Kofif: first .. paste your sources in #flood |
| 02:29.52 | arcane | i tried too run ntpdate against pool.ntp.org and got 12 Jan 22:28:08 ntpdate[4618]: the NTP socket is in use, exiting |
| 02:29.55 | Kofif | sources off ? |
| 02:29.57 | arcane | :O |
| 02:31.25 | boxy | abrotman, even firefox 1.0.7 doesn't like me |
| 02:31.32 | dvs | !hate boxy |
| 02:31.33 | dpkg | I hate you, boxy! |
| 02:31.35 | arcane | a quick ps tells me that ntp is running in the background, is that doing what i need it too? |
| 02:31.40 | boxy | :P |
| 02:31.45 | boxy | what's that for dvs? |
| 02:32.00 | dvs | boxy: Hey, you said firefox doesn't like you. ;-) |
| 02:32.05 | boxy | haha |
| 02:32.06 | boxy | that too. |
| 02:32.16 | boxy | idk it keeps hanging more than m left nut |
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| 02:32.21 | odla | boxy: use something else? |
| 02:32.24 | abrotman | Kofif: apt-get update;apt-get -u dist-upgrade .. how many does it want to upgrae ? |
| 02:32.27 | abrotman | upgrade ? |
| 02:32.27 | odla | boxy: try dillo |
| 02:32.41 | Kofif | hang on |
| 02:33.00 | brsmuniz | Hi people, do anyone knows if have brazilian's comunity here? |
| 02:33.03 | Kofif | only 1.5Mbit and bad routeing :] |
| 02:33.21 | dvs | why do brazilians like boasting from Brazil? |
| 02:33.33 | Kofif | its stuck on 47% [Connecting to non-us.debian.org (194.109.137.218)] |
| 02:33.43 | boxy | dillo isn't text based is it? |
| 02:33.50 | abrotman | Kofif: hit ctrl-c . do it again |
| 02:33.51 | odla | boxy: no |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:33.52 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:33.56 | boxy | kay good |
| 02:33.56 | brsmuniz | ok thanks a lot |
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| 02:34.38 | King_Brad | how would i go about changing a users homeDir after i've created the user? |
| 02:34.43 | boxy | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 02:34.46 | boxy | whats up with this? |
| 02:34.51 | dvs | boxy: /topic |
| 02:34.52 | Kofif | <King_Brad> edit the /etc/passwd |
| 02:34.56 | crn | arcane, ntp should be runing. But the protocol is udp. |
| 02:35.10 | abrotman | boxy: /topic |
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| 02:35.36 | arcane | crn, shouldnt my date/time be correct by now? |
| 02:35.49 | ^ATOMIC^ | how can i tell tar only to extract a certain folder from a tar archive? |
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| 02:36.06 | arcane | crn, as in it should have contacted one of the servers in the pool and changed my system date too match....? |
| 02:36.09 | boxy | whats the pkg for gpg? |
| 02:36.11 | csch | hi guys... |
| 02:36.11 | Kofif | abrotman its all up to date. |
| 02:36.14 | jilocasin | 'ello all |
| 02:36.14 | arcane | altho remember ntpdate didnt match |
| 02:36.22 | boxy | nvm |
| 02:36.25 | boxy | gnupg? |
| 02:36.25 | csch | where the iptables rules are stored in debian |
| 02:36.26 | crn | arcane, when ntpdate runs it will be correct. ntpdate will show the offset. |
| 02:36.26 | abrotman | Kofif: how many did it update ? |
| 02:36.27 | jilocasin | Can someone direct me to the "debian" way of upgrading the kernel |
| 02:36.33 | Kofif | None. |
| 02:36.34 | csch | the default iptables rules ? |
| 02:36.44 | Kofif | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded. |
| 02:36.46 | abrotman | Kofif: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 02:36.50 | Malagmyr | wouldn't it be nice if we all greeted the new arrivals? all at once, every time? |
| 02:36.55 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the one not upgraded ? |
| 02:37.09 | Kofif | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 |
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| 02:37.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:37.29 | arcane | crn, and the ntp in the background will then keep it correct forevermore ? |
| 02:37.40 | crn | arcane, it will return the offset when it has run correctly |
| 02:37.50 | arcane | so i just wait? |
| 02:37.51 | crn | arcane, in my experience, yes |
| 02:38.18 | boxy | mmm i see dillo doesn't support css |
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| 02:38.33 | nevyn | ok |
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| 02:38.54 | kspath | poop on a stick! |
| 02:39.01 | crn | arcane, when I run it it is pretty fast in returning. But my date is correct. Not a day off. |
| 02:39.12 | nevyn | tinyerp-server doesn't initialise it's database correctly |
| 02:39.18 | arcane | crn, when you run ntpdate ? |
| 02:39.26 | nevyn | how severe is this bug? |
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| 02:39.38 | crn | arcane, only to initialize. |
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| 02:39.45 | dvs | arcane: it only runs at startup |
| 02:39.49 | Kofif | no idea then how to fix this |
| 02:39.59 | arcane | ill do a reboot then |
| 02:40.12 | csch | where the default iptables rules are stored on debian ? |
| 02:40.25 | Kofif | how do i reconfigure the keyboard locale settings ? |
| 02:40.31 | Kofif | its currently on he_IL |
| 02:40.36 | nevyn | so if you initialise the database using the upstream tarball it all works |
| 02:40.41 | asg | csch: read /usr/share/doc/iptables/* |
| 02:40.41 | Kofif | i think THAT'S the problem. |
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| 02:41.52 | live | Hello |
| 02:42.00 | asg | nevyn: web based reporting of what? |
| 02:42.03 | dvs | live: Good day, eh? |
| 02:42.08 | nevyn | asg: bugs |
| 02:42.17 | live | HI I'm on my xebian xbox |
| 02:42.24 | dvs | !xebian |
| 02:42.24 | dpkg | hmm... xebian is http://www.xbox-linux.org/Xebian. See #xbox-linux on oftc.net. XEBIAN IS NOT DEBIAN! |
| 02:42.24 | Kofif | how do i change the terminal locale settings ? |
| 02:42.31 | asg | nevyn: erm, it does; unless you mean submitting bugs |
| 02:42.31 | dvs | ;-0 |
| 02:42.31 | Kofif | !dpkg change locale |
| 02:42.33 | dpkg | that doesn't look right |
| 02:42.37 | Fujoor | is there anyway to change the text before the loginscreen, for example, to put some ascii art there? |
| 02:42.38 | Kofif | !dpkg locale |
| 02:42.38 | dpkg | locale is probably something to help you using an application you don't understand because it's written in a language you don't know, by making you not understand it in a language you know. <man 7 locale> for real information. |
| 02:42.40 | nevyn | asg: submitting is what I ment |
| 02:42.44 | live | thank you dpkg |
| 02:42.44 | dpkg | live: sure thing |
| 02:42.48 | Kofif | !dpkg keyboard settings |
| 02:42.59 | asg | nevyn: *nod* |
| 02:43.03 | Kofif | :\ |
| 02:43.05 | csch | asg: I added some rules directly on iptables |
| 02:43.09 | csch | using iptables command |
| 02:43.30 | csch | now I want to save then to maintain the same after reboot |
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| 02:43.33 | nevyn | reportbug is great but requiring working mail is a hassle in these false positive spam prevention gone nuts days |
| 02:43.54 | csch | ./etc/init.d/iptables save active is the correct way ? |
| 02:43.58 | Guerin | nevyn: give over. It's not that bad. |
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| 02:44.18 | nevyn | Guerin: it is if you're not using smarthost |
| 02:44.21 | crn | csch, man iptables-save |
| 02:44.23 | asg | csch: use iptables-save > foo ; iptables-restore < foo (the preferred way is via 'up' stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces, though the READMEs in /usr/share/doc/iptables indicate other options.) |
| 02:44.31 | nevyn | even then smarthost is a hack. |
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| 02:44.44 | Kofif | i forgot the command that change it :\ |
| 02:44.45 | Hamled | how woudl I setup a bind zone record so that for example, subdom.mydomain.tld has an A record, and then mydomain.tld has a CNAME record that points to that A record? |
| 02:44.53 | nevyn | the number of people using DUL's keeps going up and up. |
| 02:44.57 | abrotman | Kofif: what is the package that won't upgrade? |
| 02:45.08 | nevyn | the collateral damage keeps expanding |
| 02:45.08 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:45.09 | kwikky23 | hi #debian...i just installed via a netinstall but it appears that libusb is not present....how do I install libusb support? |
| 02:45.33 | odla | kwikky23: apt-cache search libusb |
| 02:45.37 | csch | asg: but when I start debian some rules are loaded right ? |
| 02:45.46 | csch | where this rules are stored ? |
| 02:45.46 | abrotman | Kofif: are there any settings in the bios related ot the keyboard? |
| 02:45.53 | Guerin | nevyn: you're saying you don't have working mail ANYWHERE? |
| 02:45.54 | csch | there is a default firewall in debian ? |
| 02:45.57 | Kofif | not realy. |
| 02:46.10 | Azar | kwikky23: you installed with the 2.4.x. kernel? |
| 02:46.10 | Kofif | just a plain brand new ps keyboard. |
| 02:46.12 | nevyn | Guerin: no. |
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| 02:46.24 | kwikky23 | Azar: yes |
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| 02:46.30 | nevyn | Guerin: but I don't on my workstation where I often find these bugs |
| 02:46.30 | asg | csch: no, there isn't. There was in Debian 3.0 but that has been changed in 3.1. |
| 02:46.39 | nevyn | heh |
| 02:46.49 | Azar | kwikky23: the 2.6.8 kernel will give you the support you need |
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| 02:47.11 | Azar | kwikky23: either reinstall with the 2.6 kernel or just install the 2.6.8 for your architecture |
| 02:47.28 | kwikky23 | Azar: i used the netinstall from last night and it seems to have installed 2.4...why did it do that? |
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| 02:47.56 | dvs | kwikky23: 2.4 is the default with no options |
| 02:47.56 | Azar | kwikky23: thats the default, you have to ask for kernel 2.6 in order to get it |
| 02:48.18 | nevyn | csch: no. |
| 02:48.20 | neuterspAWAY | How can I get my version of apt-get to include Firefox 1.5 through repository? |
| 02:48.22 | Kofif | abrotman my keyboard is configured as he_IL , how can i change it back to us ? |
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| 02:48.31 | Azar | how is Sarge installer requested for the 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:48.35 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 02:48.35 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 02:48.38 | Azar | I never used Sarge installer? |
| 02:48.40 | abrotman | Azar: linux26 |
| 02:48.45 | crn | csch, google for a readme the use asg's advice about the up stanzas. You can load the firewall right after ppp comes up. |
| 02:49.02 | Azar | kwikky23: there, abrotman told you |
| 02:49.33 | kwikky23 | (sigh) debian is proving to be challenging! |
| 02:49.43 | Kofif | ok rebooting. |
| 02:49.45 | Kofif | lets see |
| 02:49.47 | kwikky23 | ok...so how do go to 2.6 kernel? |
| 02:50.04 | Azar | kwikky23: what CPU you have? |
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| 02:50.09 | dvs | kwikky23: apt-get install kernel-image-2.6-386 |
| 02:50.12 | kwikky23 | PIII 650 |
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| 02:50.49 | Azar | kwikky23: at command line, as root type apt-cache search kernel-image look at the list and write down the 2.6.8 kernel appropriate for your CPU |
| 02:51.00 | nichos | hi all, my apt is stuck, keeps telling me to apt-get -f install, which fails. Ive tried dpkg --force-all --purge and it keeps saying "ignoring request to remove X which isnt installed" |
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| 02:51.17 | Azar | kwikky23: then type aptitude install kernel-image.x.x.x.x.x.x x being the specifics you pick |
| 02:51.20 | crn | no one here has tried the skype deb? |
| 02:51.23 | Guerin | nevyn: put the output of apt-get -f install; on paster |
| 02:51.26 | Guerin | crn: no. |
| 02:51.31 | abrotman | crn: skype isn't in debina |
| 02:51.32 | Azar | kwikky23: the kernel you want is 2.6.8 |
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| 02:51.51 | nichos | Guerin was that for? |
| 02:51.52 | crn | Guerin, abrotman thanks |
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| 02:52.11 | nevyn | Guerin: ? |
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| 02:52.26 | nevyn | I can't find a severity arcane |
| 02:52.28 | Kofif | hey |
| 02:52.32 | Kofif | abrotman |
| 02:52.33 | Guerin | nevyn: sorry |
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| 02:52.36 | Kofif | awk:~# uname -a |
| 02:52.36 | Kofif | Linux awk 2.6.8-2-686-smp |
| 02:52.38 | Kofif | :D |
| 02:52.39 | Guerin | nichos: that was for you |
| 02:52.42 | odla | crn: skype is in debian-unofficial |
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| 02:52.45 | nichos | Guerin hehe, k, one sec:) |
| 02:53.13 | nevyn | so if a package doesn't initialised itself correctly that's important from my reading |
| 02:53.25 | nevyn | affects the usability of the package for most users |
| 02:53.28 | nichos | Guerin http://channels.debian.net/paste/1539 |
| 02:53.47 | nevyn | bleh grave |
| 02:54.00 | Guerin | nichos: wtf is 'initialised' in this case? |
| 02:54.29 | nichos | Guerin initialised? what do you mean? |
| 02:54.35 | drp | ok so I just installed a new kernel (2.6 k7) and I'm having some trouble with loading my nvidia kernel module |
| 02:54.45 | drp | whenever I try to run startx as myself i get these errors |
| 02:54.46 | abrotman | Kofif: it works ? |
| 02:54.50 | Guerin | nichos: fuck, my tabcomplete is random today |
| 02:54.53 | drp | http://rafb.net/paste/results/qBzGoq39.html |
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| 02:55.12 | Kofif | apt-get install `apt-cache search xfce | awk {'print $1'} :DDD |
| 02:55.16 | Kofif | abrotman Yes |
| 02:55.24 | abrotman | Kofif: just the keymap? |
| 02:55.27 | Guerin | nichos: dpkg -P knetworkconf |
| 02:55.30 | Kofif | yeah. |
| 02:55.35 | abrotman | that sucks |
| 02:55.37 | Kofif | i had it set as he_IL |
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| 02:55.49 | Kofif | and the new kernel didnt know how to work with that language. |
| 02:55.49 | nichos | Guerin i get this: dpkg - warning: ignoring request to remove knetworkconf which isn't installed. |
| 02:56.09 | Kofif | downloaing xfce4 at 200kb/sec |
| 02:56.10 | Kofif | :] |
| 02:56.36 | Kofif | will have a sweet desktop in no time! ( if i still remeber the xfree86config issues lol ) |
| 02:56.40 | Guerin | nichos: ok, so that package is being installed to correct dependencies. |
| 02:56.41 | deadcat | i got windows to print through my CUPS printer via IPP. but having problem via linux to linux (= |
| 02:56.48 | drp | should i paste my XFSConf too? |
| 02:56.50 | Kofif | thank you for your time man , |
| 02:56.57 | Kofif | if you need anything just ask :] |
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| 02:57.17 | Guerin | nichos: file conflicts like that (two packages containing the same file) should never happen in official debian sources. |
| 02:57.17 | deadcat | Kofif: what you got? |
| 02:57.19 | _Sam-- | there is no way to do bootsplash without making a new kernel for sarge? |
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| 02:57.30 | deadcat | _Sam--: nope. |
| 02:57.37 | deadcat | _Sam--: try splashy |
| 02:57.43 | _Sam-- | thanks will have a look! |
| 02:57.53 | Kofif | deadcat ? what man ? |
| 02:57.59 | _Sam-- | that gets run through initrd? |
| 02:58.23 | nichos | Guerin so removing a source, apt get updating should work? |
| 02:58.24 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya |
| 02:58.35 | deadcat | Kofif: 18:56 < Kofif> if you need anything just ask :] |
| 02:58.41 | Kofif | lol |
| 02:58.42 | _Sam-- | sweet gonna give it shot THANKS. |
| 02:58.59 | Kofif | i manage a small data center :P |
| 02:59.09 | Guerin | nichos: no, because you already have some broken shit installed. You can either uninstall whatever is bringing in this broken package, or do this: dpkg --force-overwrite -i /var/cache/apt/archives/knetworkconf_whatever.deb |
| 02:59.12 | Kofif | wanna rent a box ?:P |
| 02:59.25 | kwikky23 | ok..i'm on 2.6.8 kernel now...but not getting expected results....i'm trying to install OWFS and it says I should check libusb support with this command: find /usr/lib -name "libusb.*" |
| 02:59.42 | kwikky23 | but that command yields no results |
| 02:59.42 | jcurry | deadcat, what is this splashy you speak of? can i find it in debian? |
| 02:59.55 | nichos | Guerin lifesaver:) |
| 02:59.56 | Guerin | !owfs |
| 03:00.25 | deadcat | jcurry: deb http://splashy.alioth.debian.org/debian/ unstable main |
| 03:00.27 | Guerin | kwikky23: wtf is owfs? |
| 03:00.38 | jcurry | deadcat, thanks! |
| 03:00.46 | kwikky23 | Guerin: One Wire File System see it at owfs.sourceforge.net |
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| 03:01.13 | _Sam-- | weird, the splash sourceforge page says its listed in the debian packages now...apt-search shows nothing |
| 03:01.21 | _Sam-- | er splashy sourceforge page |
| 03:01.24 | nichos | Guerin thanks a lot |
| 03:01.28 | kwikky23 | Guerin: it's for temperature sensing and control |
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| 03:01.49 | _Sam-- | apt-cache search too :) |
| 03:01.54 | deadcat | _Sam--: in experimental maybe. |
| 03:02.00 | _Sam-- | i get a million sources |
| 03:02.16 | Guerin | kwikky23: what gives you that instruction? |
| 03:02.28 | Guerin | kwikky23: the find instruction, i mean |
| 03:02.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: http://owfs.sourceforge.net/install.html |
| 03:02.56 | kwikky23 | Guerin: under section 2 check prerequisites |
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| 03:03.24 | Guerin | kwikky23: apt-cache show libusb; you'll probably ened -dev packages |
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| 03:03.43 | pawdro | how can i remove ONLY totem? im not sure if i should apt-get remove totem, because it wants also remove gnome gnome-desktop-enviroment and totem (but only 77.8 kb will be removed from disc) |
| 03:04.19 | Guerin | pawdro: it just removes the metapackage; no big deal. |
| 03:04.34 | kwikky23 | Guerin: says" Unable to locate package libusb" "No packages found"...suggestions for installing/getting? |
| 03:04.49 | pawdro | Guerin: so accept removing? |
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| 03:06.28 | _Sam-- | deadcat THANKS>..i think this is going to work out great. |
| 03:06.39 | _Sam-- | do i need to mkinitrd for the splashy? |
| 03:06.40 | Guerin | pawdro: sure |
| 03:06.57 | deadcat | _Sam--: no. you dont have to do anything. |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | awk:~# xdebconfigurator |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/ddcprobe NOT found! |
| 03:07.04 | Kofif | /usr/sbin/hwinfo NOT found! |
| 03:07.15 | Kofif | how can i fix this ? :\ |
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| 03:07.22 | deadcat | Kofif: install those 2 |
| 03:07.25 | _Sam-- | it will automagically do its thing next time i reboot without even doing anything other than installing it? |
| 03:07.35 | Kofif | what's the packages names i cannot seem to fin |
| 03:07.38 | boxy | which kernel in testing should i install 2.6.8 or 2.6.12? |
| 03:07.56 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. make sure your boot loader has vga that supports 1024x768 or so. thats it |
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| 03:08.03 | Kofif | oo found hwinfo :] |
| 03:08.07 | deadcat | Kofif: apt-cache search |
| 03:08.12 | _Sam-- | awesome...thanks so much, again....back in 2! |
| 03:08.21 | deadcat | boxy: latest might be always better |
| 03:08.30 | Kofif | found em |
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| 03:08.44 | boxy | heh well i have 2.6.15-1-686 but im going from unstable to testing also |
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| 03:08.52 | eder_20 | hi |
| 03:08.53 | boxy | cause unstable is causing problems. lol |
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| 03:08.57 | kwikky23 | sorry for being such a N00b, but I'm looking at http://libusb.sourceforge.net/ and it's not clear to me how Install that package in debian...can someone steer me in the right direction? |
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| 03:10.07 | jcurry | kwikky23, 'apt-get install libusb-0.1-4' as root? |
| 03:10.58 | _Sam-- | worked...but i thought you said it ran from initrd |
| 03:11.06 | _Sam-- | it doesnt load up until root is mounted and init is run |
| 03:11.20 | deadcat | oh. |
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| 03:11.25 | _Sam-- | but better than nothing! |
| 03:11.29 | deadcat | i dont use it no more. |
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| 03:11.43 | deadcat | sucked on ppc. doesnt work actually. they too lazy to build |
| 03:11.44 | _Sam-- | it serves its purpose fine for what im trying to do |
| 03:11.55 | deadcat | _Sam--: ya. |
| 03:12.08 | kwikky23 | jcurry: is that going to be the same package as on libusb.sourceforge.net |
| 03:12.10 | odla | crap i am trying to upgrade to testing from sarge and udev won't install |
| 03:12.11 | _Sam-- | was wondering how it was going to run from initrd if im not making a new initrd |
| 03:13.01 | Guerin | odla: need new kernel |
| 03:13.08 | odla | Guerin: for it to install? |
| 03:13.14 | Guerin | odla: remove udev, upgrade, install new kernel, install udev |
| 03:13.21 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:13.26 | Guerin | braindead, but true |
| 03:13.40 | odla | Guerin: it won't let me remove udev |
| 03:14.08 | Kofif | Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. |
| 03:14.09 | Guerin | odla: tell it to improve its attitude |
| 03:14.11 | Kofif | :\ |
| 03:14.18 | jcurry | kwikky23, i have no clue...but it should be reasonably similar, i should think... |
| 03:14.21 | odla | Guerin: how ;)? |
| 03:14.34 | Guerin | odla: why is it being truculent? |
| 03:14.47 | odla | Guerin: it wants me to apt-get -f install |
| 03:14.57 | odla | Guerin: when i do that it says no it won't do it |
| 03:14.59 | asg | Guerin: don't scare them with the big words |
| 03:15.01 | odla | Guerin: hold on i'll paste it |
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| 03:16.20 | odla | Guerin: hang on...i tried apt-get -f dist-upgrade and things look ok for the moment...back to listen to abrotman mp3s |
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| 03:17.05 | Guerin | bah ... the 4.2.2.* dns servers are flaking out on me |
| 03:17.08 | Guerin | who's got some others? |
| 03:17.12 | Kofif | i run xdebconfigurator and i get : Failed to determine video card driver or xserver at /usr/sbin/xdebconfigurator line 1201. <<--- how can i fix this issue ? |
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| 03:17.53 | z36ra | how do you get snd-virmidi to load automatically? |
| 03:18.35 | z36ra | sarge |
| 03:18.57 | Guerin | z36ra: echo snd-virmidi >> /etc/modules |
| 03:19.05 | odla | udev error http://pastebin.com/501919 |
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| 03:19.16 | shadow98 | where does samba store its wins info |
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| 03:19.54 | Guerin | odla: for a start, sort your locale issues out |
| 03:20.15 | odla | Guerin: how? |
| 03:20.36 | Guerin | odla: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 03:20.43 | Guerin | odla: aptitude purge udev |
| 03:21.11 | odla | dpkg-reconfigure locales is broken or not fully installed |
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| 03:23.14 | odla | oh boy |
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| 03:23.31 | Guerin | odla: ok, so just ignore it and purge udev |
| 03:23.42 | abrotman | the answer to life |
| 03:23.49 | Kofif | what should i use " gdm " or " xdm " to manage my xfce ? |
| 03:23.54 | odla | Guerin: i am running aptitude purge udev and the strangest shit is happening |
| 03:23.59 | shadow98 | if i change /etc/hosts file do i need to flush anything for changes to take effect |
| 03:24.15 | elessar7x | do you know how to enable /dev/sda ? |
| 03:24.17 | odla | Guerin: the terminal is scrolling out of control with a million parser errors |
| 03:24.32 | elessar7x | it appears I have lost both /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 03:24.40 | Guerin | odla: welcome to why udev is the bane of all life |
| 03:24.43 | elessar7x | after the compilation of the kernel |
| 03:24.51 | odla | Guerin: udev sucks i want hotplug back |
| 03:24.54 | centrx | Kofif, you can use either |
| 03:24.58 | abrotman | why did you compile your own kernel elessar7x ? |
| 03:25.03 | Kofif | whats recommended |
| 03:25.12 | odla | Guerin: will it ever stop? |
| 03:25.19 | abrotman | Kofif: whichever you prefer . there is no recommended |
| 03:25.33 | elessar7x | for drivers ... |
| 03:25.36 | centrx | Kofif, gdm is prettier and probably more featureful, but for all but the most convoluted and complex purposes they are probably identical for your purposes |
| 03:25.38 | abrotman | that's vague |
| 03:25.51 | Guerin | odla: Please insert coins to play 'Crystal Ball' |
| 03:25.52 | centrx | Kofif, i should replace probably with possibly more developed currently |
| 03:25.59 | odla | what's all this shit about oasis-open.org |
| 03:26.02 | centrx | Kofif, that is under more development |
| 03:26.04 | shadow98 | anybody know what i have to do it get /etc/hosts file to update |
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| 03:26.25 | abrotman | shadow98: why would you need to update it ? |
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| 03:27.03 | shadow98 | i had wrong ip in there for one of my hosts that i moved to the dmz |
| 03:27.10 | abrotman | so change it |
| 03:27.18 | shadow98 | im using samba as wins server |
| 03:27.38 | odla | Guerin: holy fuck...it worked...i think |
| 03:27.40 | shadow98 | so when i ping debian box that was on the lan it is pointing to old ip |
| 03:27.48 | shadow98 | not the new ip in the dmz |
| 03:27.53 | newjunk | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:28.12 | abrotman | shadow98: so change the IP in your hosts file .. or restart wins ? |
| 03:28.15 | shadow98 | it didn't start even trying to resolve address until i put the wins server in |
| 03:28.29 | shadow98 | so its has something to do with samba or something on the debian box |
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| 03:29.13 | odla | Guerin: so should i upgrade my kernel then reinstall udev? |
| 03:30.09 | shadow98 | ok if i put the samba server in wins and when i ping it it points to old ip...where is this info stored in samba/debian |
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| 03:30.24 | shadow98 | i just restarted samba server that didn't work |
| 03:30.26 | kwikky23 | Guerin and everyone...thank you for your assistance...nothing is going smoothly with my debian install so I think I'm going back to Fedora Core4...but I do appreciate your help |
| 03:31.13 | khermans_ | Is there a way to allow my non-root user to have more paths for libs? I am not able to edit /etc/ld.so.conf |
| 03:31.25 | Flimzy | shadow98: look in /etc/resolv.conf... and check DNS |
| 03:31.48 | Flimzy | shadow98: And BTW, in every experience I've run into, DNS makes more sense than WINS |
| 03:31.54 | raf256 | khermans_: isnt there like export LD_PRELOADF |
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| 03:32.10 | Guerin | odla: yes |
| 03:32.13 | afabian | khermans_, LD_LIBRARY_PATH environment variable, I think. But I don't know, just coming up with a 'jumping off point' for a search. |
| 03:32.20 | odla | Guerin: thanks for the help |
| 03:32.34 | shadow98 | not in etc/resolve |
| 03:32.56 | odla | Guerin: one more question...why did aptitude purge udev work and apt-get remove --purge udev not? |
| 03:32.58 | raf256 | http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/06/msg00327.html |
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| 03:34.06 | xam | shadow98: your samba server stores it in /var/lib/samba/wins.dat |
| 03:34.22 | z36ra | ok the module loads but now sound doesnt work in kde... ho hum |
| 03:34.52 | z36ra | no jack, oss alsa... nada brutha |
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| 03:35.19 | z36ra | gotta love this free debian stuf. |
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| 03:35.39 | khermans_ | afabian, that worked, thanks dude :-) |
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| 03:36.11 | z36ra | and stable |
| 03:36.25 | Guerin | odla: aptitude is smarter than apt-get when it comes to traversing dependencies |
| 03:36.27 | abrotman | stable? ... my debian crashes every 5 minutes |
| 03:36.34 | afabian | khermans_, it's what I have to show for my mis-spent youth. ;) |
| 03:36.38 | z36ra | i hear ya |
| 03:36.48 | khermans_ | afabian, how old now? |
| 03:36.50 | khermans_ | ;-/ |
| 03:36.52 | abrotman | it's probably because i keep just jamming cards in the PCI slots |
| 03:36.52 | odla | Guerin: so should i just use aptitude instead of apt-get? |
| 03:36.57 | Guerin | odla: yes. |
| 03:37.03 | odla | Guerin: ok..thanks |
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| 03:37.09 | z36ra | hell anything is better than windows |
| 03:37.10 | afabian | khermans_, I'm exaggerating more than a little. I'm 25, though. |
| 03:37.10 | shadow98 | there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.15 | khermans_ | lol |
| 03:37.19 | shadow98 | xam: there isn't a wins.dat file |
| 03:37.20 | abrotman | shadow98: did you restart samba ? |
| 03:37.23 | Kerr | is Vores l debian? .. and does anyone know where i can get some? |
| 03:37.24 | shadow98 | yes |
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| 03:37.35 | z36ra | ide be crashing every 4 minutes |
| 03:37.48 | abrotman | shadow98: and the other one .. wind .. or winbind .. whatever it's called |
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| 03:38.00 | shadow98 | yes |
| 03:38.30 | shadow98 | amd i flushed dns on my windows machine |
| 03:38.56 | abrotman | flushed dns ? |
| 03:39.13 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. |
| 03:39.15 | Waggie | Any ideas? |
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| 03:39.25 | Flimzy | The next thing to do, then, is to flush your windows machine :P |
| 03:39.45 | SperMite | What all do i need installed so I can build things in my kernel. im getting this error.: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 03:39.46 | Waggie | Gotta agree with ya there, Flimzy. :) |
| 03:40.02 | Waggie | SperMite: Which directory are you in? |
| 03:40.05 | z36ra | sound system went to hell after adding vir-midi to /etc/modules |
| 03:40.14 | z36ra | any suggestions |
| 03:40.16 | z36ra | ? |
| 03:40.20 | shadow98 | abortman: also when i do nbtstat -c it shows the correct address for debian |
| 03:40.23 | shadow98 | box |
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| 03:40.35 | shadow98 | but when i try to ping it doesn't resolve correct address |
| 03:40.45 | SperMite | Waggie Devin:/usr/src# make menuconfig |
| 03:40.58 | shadow98 | well it works |
| 03:40.59 | z36ra | oops snd-virmidi |
| 03:41.04 | Waggie | SperMite: Try to chdir to /usr/src/linux/ |
| 03:41.06 | shadow98 | if i go to share by name it works |
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| 03:41.08 | Aid` | Why cant I see any pictures when im playing movies/videos? I can hear the audio but cant see the picture :(. Any ideas? |
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| 03:41.49 | raf256 | Aid`: is monitor turned on? are you blind? |
| 03:42.02 | Aid` | it is |
| 03:42.03 | shadow98 | now its pinging |
| 03:42.06 | raf256 | Aid`: also, try other output devices |
| 03:42.06 | Aid` | the screen is just green |
| 03:42.07 | shadow98 | just took it a minute |
| 03:42.09 | Flimzy | Aid`: What program are you using? Do you get an error? Do you have the proper codec(s) installed? |
| 03:42.17 | raf256 | Aid`: -vo x11 |
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| 03:42.31 | Aid` | raf256, what? |
| 03:42.34 | oozle | hi |
| 03:42.40 | oozle | I've a question... |
| 03:42.41 | raf256 | Aid`: add -vo x11 option to command line of mplayer |
| 03:42.46 | oozle | I've a question. Can someone enlighten me as to what was the nature of the lawsuit against people who used unix to construct operating systems like linux... |
| 03:42.48 | Aid` | im using wine |
| 03:42.52 | Aid` | erm xine |
| 03:42.54 | Aid` | :X |
| 03:43.07 | raf256 | Aid`: try mplayer |
| 03:43.16 | Aid` | when itry to add it i get wierd errors |
| 03:43.22 | Waggie | mplayer is superior to xine. |
| 03:43.28 | raf256 | try kaffeine |
| 03:43.32 | abrotman | oozle: that's a bit vague |
| 03:43.34 | Waggie | oozle: Check out groklaw.com |
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| 03:43.44 | oozle | groklaw.com? |
| 03:43.46 | Aid` | Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | is only available from another source |
| 03:43.47 | Aid` | E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate |
| 03:43.47 | abrotman | he could mean the BSD lawsuit |
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| 03:43.51 | Edgardoweb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:43.53 | Edgardoweb | * - /___\/ _ ___ |
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| 03:43.56 | Aid` | sorry |
| 03:43.57 | Edgardoweb | * - |( C '\ \ |-| |._ |
| 03:43.59 | Edgardoweb | * - ___ )_ _/ - | | | | |
| 03:44.00 | abrotman | Edgardoweb: STOP |
| 03:44.01 | raf256 | oozle: linux is used only by hackers and terrorists. dindt you read the M$ banner? |
| 03:44.01 | Edgardoweb | * - [___] / `\____ | | |_,' |
| 03:44.03 | Edgardoweb | * - | ^| / \_____/) |-|___| |
| 03:44.05 | Edgardoweb | * - | | / / _:::_))_(___ |
| 03:44.06 | Aid` | but thats what it says |
| 03:44.06 | *** mode/#debian [+o caphuso] by ChanServ |
| 03:44.07 | Edgardoweb | * - | |/`-._/_ |___________| |
| 03:44.09 | Edgardoweb | * - '-;_|\_____ `\ ||"""""""""|| |
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| 03:44.10 | Waggie | Edgardoweb: Lamer. |
| 03:44.11 | raf256 | Edgardoweb: are you mentally retarded? |
| 03:44.31 | afabian | Heh. What is that, some urbane freenode kick? |
| 03:44.37 | oozle | abrotman yes I know, I'm sorry, I don't accurately recall what kind of lawsuit it was, but at the time it threatened to end efforts to use linux as a popular op system |
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| 03:44.50 | abrotman | oozle: there's the SCO lawsuit .. and the old BSD lawsuit |
| 03:44.52 | Aid` | im newer to debian what does it usually mean if a packing is not avaliable, or missing, or obsolete, or from another source |
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| 03:45.02 | Aid` | am i missing something in sources.list possibly? |
| 03:45.09 | raf256 | !mplayer |
| 03:45.09 | dpkg | from memory, mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 03:45.20 | Waggie | Aid: You should probably add the merillat apt repository to your sources.list |
| 03:45.31 | Aid` | Waggie, where is that at |
| 03:45.34 | raf256 | !tell Aid` about marillat |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | !tell Aid` about |
| 03:45.39 | abrotman | bah |
| 03:45.52 | raf256 | ;) |
| 03:45.59 | mrpen | hi, is there a way to change the resolution in the console windows, not in X? |
| 03:46.06 | raf256 | !tell me about sex baby, lets talk about you and me |
| 03:46.29 | Guerin | raf256: grow up. |
| 03:46.31 | Waggie | Aid: Send a privmsg to dpkg with the text 'mplayer faq' |
| 03:46.36 | raf256 | Guerin: noooooo |
| 03:46.37 | abrotman | and get the lyrics right |
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| 03:47.14 | Waggie | Hey folks.. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 03:47.16 | Guerin | abrotman: go easy on him. That song was written about two decades before he even knew what sex was. |
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| 03:47.31 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 03:47.31 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 5 or 6 rabid kittens. And keep the cops off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 03:47.40 | abrotman | Guerin: that song is .. like 15 years old .. i think |
| 03:47.47 | Guerin | abrotman: yes. |
| 03:47.50 | Aid` | whereis sources.list again? :$ |
| 03:47.57 | abrotman | /etc/apt/ |
| 03:48.10 | raf256 | Aid`: do backup, after changes do apt-get update as root |
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| 03:48.30 | psilikon | is the sarge netinst iso bootable? |
| 03:48.32 | sandman | How useful is COBOL these days? |
| 03:48.34 | Zenethian- | How do you tell what speed an ethernet card is running at? |
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| 03:48.42 | EdLin | psilikon: of course |
| 03:48.46 | Waggie | sandman: About as useful as a brick. |
| 03:48.59 | Waggie | Nevermind, not that useful, even. |
| 03:48.59 | sandman | Waggie: C programs are faster these days, yes? |
| 03:49.04 | psilikon | hmmm it is not booting for me but all the other bootable isos i burnt are working fine |
| 03:49.06 | Zenethian- | COBOL programmers make $120+ an hour (and thats in the midwest) but it's a dying profession |
| 03:49.08 | Waggie | Generally, yes. |
| 03:49.10 | psilikon | maybe a bad iso |
| 03:49.11 | Kofif | how can i make x detect my mouse correctly ? |
| 03:49.15 | Kofif | i get an error |
| 03:49.47 | Waggie | Kofif: The error would help.. |
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| 03:50.03 | sandman | Well, it seems to me that C is more functional, less inherently buggy, faster, and more portable. |
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| 03:50.11 | sandman | In other words, C is Just Plain Better. |
| 03:50.13 | raf256 | yet C++ is better |
| 03:50.15 | Waggie | Zenethian: I also don't KNOW any COBOL programmers outside of the midwest. |
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| 03:50.19 | psilikon | is there something that would make the ia64 version not bootable? |
| 03:50.26 | Aid` | isnt mplayer an official package of debian |
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| 03:50.28 | Guerin | !start a language war |
| 03:50.28 | dpkg | Pascal is faster than Lua |
| 03:50.29 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 <<-- ? |
| 03:50.31 | raf256 | psilikon: a hammer? |
| 03:50.36 | sandman | Well, no I made the comparison between COBOL and C because they are both structured languages. |
| 03:50.38 | Guerin | Aid`: no. |
| 03:50.41 | Waggie | Aid: No, because of patent issues. |
| 03:50.46 | Aid` | why doesn't apt-get work by default? for mplayer |
| 03:50.47 | xam | Zenethian-: if you networkcard driver supports it, install and run 'mii-tool' as root, or otherwise simply look up the bootlog, it might be mentioned there |
| 03:50.53 | Guerin | not explicitly because of patent issues |
| 03:50.59 | Waggie | Well, true.. My bad. |
| 03:51.13 | Guerin | Aid`: /msg dpkg mplayer |
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| 03:51.53 | Zenethian | xam, thanks. |
| 03:52.01 | Aid` | k |
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| 03:52.12 | psilikon | anyone know of some sarge iso mirrors? |
| 03:52.14 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
| 03:52.21 | Kofif | how can i detect my mouse ? mdetect wont find it .. |
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| 03:52.31 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/501940 |
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| 03:53.02 | cleit0n | hi i install one USB joystick and i calibreted with jscalibrator but it dont work right, only run right and back... |
| 03:53.22 | Aid` | how do i setup marilatt |
| 03:53.29 | Aid` | marillat |
| 03:53.35 | xam | psilikon: mhh, last time I installed it on a ia64 was about 2 months ago, using the netinstall iso for testing. It worked fine (on a zx2000) |
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| 03:53.43 | Waggie | Kofif, USB mouse? |
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| 03:53.52 | Kofif | PS 2 |
| 03:54.05 | Kofif | hang on i think i found its config |
| 03:54.23 | Waggie | Aid: The instructions that dpkg gave you should tell you how. |
| 03:54.23 | Aid` | How do i setup the deb packages in sources.list |
| 03:54.28 | odla | slowly but surely i'll have my system updated |
| 03:54.36 | jilocasin | hi all |
| 03:54.49 | raf256 | Aid`: talk less, read more |
| 03:54.51 | Waggie | The config for the mouse in X11 is handled in /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 03:55.25 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can get gnome's resolution to be 1280x1024 at 75 (that's how it comes in under KDS and XFCE), but gnome insists on 60? |
| 03:55.33 | psilikon | xam: I must of just got a bad cd or something |
| 03:55.46 | Kofif | no |
| 03:55.49 | Kofif | im not useing xorg |
| 03:55.51 | raf256 | jilocasin: perhaps change xorg.cong / FXree86 settings |
| 03:56.07 | Waggie | Kofif: Do an 'ls -l /dev/mouse' |
| 03:56.11 | raf256 | jilocasin: start rotate and rand tool |
| 03:56.18 | cleit0n | anyone have .joystick to me |
| 03:56.20 | raf256 | jilocasin: krandrtray |
| 03:56.38 | sandman | The record i/o funcionality inherent in COBOL is kinda redundant, isn't it? Considering that most OS's have readahead and burst I/O, etc |
| 03:56.51 | Thanatermesis | how to look the CFLAGS to are compiled a binary ? |
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| 03:57.06 | abrotman | sandbot: this is the wrong channel for programming language discussion |
| 03:57.11 | abrotman | especially about cobol :) |
| 03:57.22 | sandman | Where should I go? |
| 03:57.25 | isorox | #museum |
| 03:57.34 | xam | psilikon: maybe. But it could be taht the installer CDs are broken on ia64. Happens sometimes |
| 03:57.35 | Waggie | #depression on EfNet. :) |
| 03:57.51 | Kofif | Waggie no file.. |
| 03:57.54 | bjron | is there a way, in general, to determine which compile options were used to build the binaries in a package? |
| 03:57.59 | Kofif | ls: /dev/mouse: No such file or directory |
| 03:58.07 | isorox | Kofif, your mouse might be under /dev/psaux |
| 03:58.15 | Kofif | xdebconfigutaror tells me the mouse is /dev/input/mice |
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| 03:58.18 | afabian | apt-cache search cobol tells me that COBOL has about as much to do with Debian as leprechauns. |
| 03:58.20 | Waggie | isorox: It's configured for that. |
| 03:58.22 | Kofif | and protocol is ImPS/2 |
| 03:58.24 | jilocasin | raf256: xorg.conf setting are SubSection "Display" Depth 24 Modes "1280x1024" |
| 03:58.27 | Kofif | but that osnt help. |
| 03:58.35 | Waggie | kofif: Does /dev/input/mice exist? |
| 03:58.46 | Kofif | i dont think so |
| 03:58.49 | jilocasin | raf256: what's rotate and rand tool, krandrtray? |
| 03:58.53 | munkys_com | hi what is a good PCI WLAN card for a slower Pentium 2 running Debian? |
| 03:58.56 | Waggie | 'ls -l /dev/input/mice' |
| 03:59.01 | raf256 | jilocasin: its a tool to change X resolution |
| 03:59.01 | Kofif | /dev/input/mice |
| 03:59.03 | Kofif | yes |
| 03:59.05 | Kofif | its there . |
| 03:59.09 | Waggie | Ok.. |
| 03:59.12 | psilikon | xam: if I ran the 32bit version would I loose any performance? I have a p4 dual core w/ the em64t |
| 03:59.20 | Waggie | Do 'ls -l /etc/X11/XF86Config' |
| 03:59.26 | Kofif | its there. |
| 03:59.33 | raf256 | jilocasin: although Im afriad it need KDE to work... perhaps try "xset" program |
| 03:59.37 | munkys_com | anyone have any experience with WLAN cards? |
| 03:59.49 | raf256 | !anyone |
| 03:59.49 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 03:59.55 | abrotman | #wireless |
| 04:00.16 | Waggie | Use your favorite text editor of choice and edit /etc/X11/XF86Config, then search for '/dev/mouse' and replace it with '/dev/input/mice' |
| 04:00.26 | hornhead | where can I get a list of all the debian mirrors? |
| 04:00.27 | Kofif | did so already. |
| 04:00.28 | abrotman | you shouldn't do that |
| 04:00.33 | Waggie | !ne1 |
| 04:00.33 | dpkg | There is no such nick ne1. If you can't be bothered to type 'anyone' we can't be bothered to help you. IRC shorthand for "I don't have two braincells to rub together" (circa EFnet #amiga mid-90s) |
| 04:00.36 | hornhead | nm |
| 04:00.37 | abrotman | !xmd5 |
| 04:00.37 | dpkg | If you hand-edit your X configuration file, "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86" will no longer work, which is bad. To see if this is the case, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 | diff -sq /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum -" - if the files differ, then it won't work. To fix this, "md5sum /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 > /var/lib/xfree86/XF86Config-4.md5sum" as root, then "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86", losing any manual changes you've made. |
| 04:00.47 | Waggie | abrotman: I gave bad advice? |
| 04:00.50 | Kofif | join flood look what i get |
| 04:00.55 | xam | psilikon: yes, it would be unbearably slow. Despite the fact that you can't install a 32bit (x86) debian on ia64. You can run x86 binaries however (if you install the ia32libs package) |
| 04:01.03 | abrotman | Waggie: if you edit that file by hand .. dpkg-reconfigure won't work on sarge's xfree packages |
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| 04:01.17 | Waggie | Ah.. My bad. |
| 04:01.25 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:01.37 | Kofif | so i need to fix it |
| 04:01.52 | Waggie | I'm ever so used to editing my X config by hand. |
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| 04:02.03 | Kofif | me too. |
| 04:02.07 | psilikon | xam: I thought you could run 32bit Os's on em64t... i mean they still have the 32bit architecture.. it is not like it is an itanium chip |
| 04:02.14 | Kofif | well its all seems to work. |
| 04:02.44 | Kofif | still |
| 04:02.48 | Kofif | any configuration ill give it |
| 04:02.49 | hornhead | Is anyone else getting GPG errors from their apt-get updates? How can I correct this? |
| 04:02.50 | Kofif | same error |
| 04:03.00 | Kofif | No core pointer |
| 04:03.09 | Kofif | mdetect is not working , meaning dosnt find nothing . |
| 04:03.12 | xam | psilikon: I'm confused now. I thought you were talking about Itanium(2) ... at least you said 'ia64' earlier! |
| 04:03.22 | Whistleboy | anyone know if there is a 1.5 thunderbird package? |
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| 04:04.08 | psilikon | xam: yes i did... sorry |
| 04:04.12 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:04.41 | psilikon | xam: that is what deb calls the 64 bit version |
| 04:05.05 | Kofif | wierd problem |
| 04:05.06 | Kofif | :\ |
| 04:05.12 | Waggie | Kofif: Out of morbid curiosity, have you tried testing all the hardware on this machine with a Live CD? |
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| 04:05.25 | xam | psilikon: no, ia64 are debs for the itanium machines |
| 04:05.31 | Kofif | no |
| 04:05.43 | Waggie | The Ubuntu live CD is a half-decent test of hardware. |
| 04:05.48 | psilikon | xam: so back to my first question. If i install the i386 version on my intel chip with the EM64T stuff will I be missing out on any performance? |
| 04:05.50 | Kofif | i found my old woody cd and decided to install it. |
| 04:05.54 | psilikon | xam: really? |
| 04:06.12 | xam | psilikon: yes. |
| 04:06.21 | Kofif | and i realy forgot all the basics :\ |
| 04:06.46 | Kofif | well , its only a mouse that stops me now from X |
| 04:06.58 | Kofif | mdetect is useless , any other tool like that? |
| 04:08.16 | xam | psilikon: for 32bit x86 (also known as ia32) on a em64t/amd64 machine it should run without any performance penalties |
| 04:08.53 | Waggie | Kofif: I dunno, I've never had any problems detecting mice before, not since the serial mouse days. |
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| 04:09.19 | el_macnifico | hola |
| 04:09.23 | Waggie | Kofif: Have you ever testing any OS on this system before? |
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| 04:09.35 | Waggie | Hello. |
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| 04:10.00 | psilikon | xam: thanks for straightening that out for me.... i really got confused |
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| 04:10.59 | xam | psilikon: no worries, it is kinda confusing I have to admit |
| 04:11.01 | Waggie | I'm having an issue with amavisd-new. I'm running Debian Etch and I updated amavis today and now neither ClamAV nor SpamAssassin are loading properly, the messages are being passed without being checking.. Any ideas folks? |
| 04:11.18 | el_macnifico | somone knows about th project debian-arequipa??? |
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| 04:11.50 | el_macnifico | + |
| 04:11.57 | el_macnifico | +|+++956-+6|3 |
| 04:12.07 | dsl_ | Does anyone here happen to know why "nx", the low bandwidth remote desktop package, isn't in unstable? |
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| 04:12.30 | psilikon | i know I could google this but.. you guys might have a better idea. I am looking for a really good howto on updated the default kernel for sarge to say maybe 2.6.12 (i'm new to linux/debian) |
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| 04:12.48 | psilikon | updated=updating |
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| 04:14.23 | klync | psilikon: i'm currently reading: http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html |
| 04:14.34 | jilocasin | 'ello again |
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| 04:14.49 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:14.51 | Waggie | psilikon: It's generally easy enough to do a package installation. |
| 04:14.52 | jilocasin | anyone know how I can change the fonts or desktop icon sizes in gnome? |
| 04:15.07 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.11 | hornhead | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:15.23 | Kofif | AMAN |
| 04:15.27 | Kofif | got X working |
| 04:15.27 | Waggie | !tell hornhead about 2006 key |
| 04:15.28 | Kofif | :] |
| 04:15.45 | psilikon | klync: thanks |
| 04:15.49 | klync | psilikon: :) |
| 04:16.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: It's in your preferences. |
| 04:17.06 | psilikon | What if i start out with the base install (just console) and then add X and a WM later as I need it. Since the first thing I need to do it get my Dell's onboard NIC working and I wanna learn debian from the ground up. Good idea or bad idea. Oh plus I will have to struggle to get my ati vid card working |
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| 04:17.12 | klync | psilikon: at the risk of being flamed by the paranoid, i'll admit i do it all as root |
| 04:17.36 | klync | psilikon: good idea if you have another comp with a browser :) |
| 04:17.38 | jilocasin | Waggie: It says it's 10 pt, but it's the largest 10pt font I've ever seen |
| 04:17.51 | psilikon | klync: luckily I have my work laptop |
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| 04:18.15 | Waggie | jilocasin: What's your dpi set to? |
| 04:18.22 | klync | psilikon: ya, then for sure... do you know any other linuxes? |
| 04:18.30 | Waggie | jilocasin: and what's your screen resolution? |
| 04:18.46 | klync | or should i say gnu/*nix |
| 04:18.47 | jilocasin | Waggie: 1280x1024 on a 19" monitor |
| 04:18.53 | Waggie | brb.. |
| 04:19.05 | psilikon | klync: i messed with slackware years ago, then tried fedora, suse, mandrake and gnoppix |
| 04:19.17 | myren | I'm running 1400x1120 on my 19" but i'm a freak |
| 04:19.18 | psilikon | and mayeb other ones that I forgot about :) |
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| 04:20.19 | jilocasin | Waggie: the desktop icon's are about 1" square |
| 04:20.35 | erratic | can anyone help me disable this? nothing on google has helped : Reading package lists... Done |
| 04:20.39 | erratic | W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net etch Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 04:20.42 | erratic | W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems |
| 04:20.44 | erratic | root@Alice:/etc/apt# |
| 04:20.51 | erratic | apparently a really big problem that alot of people are having and nobody is helping |
| 04:20.55 | seba | part #debian |
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| 04:20.57 | Guerin | !topicbadger erratic |
| 04:20.57 | dpkg | /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *READ IT*READ IT* /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic /topic *a shaaame it's a shaaame that erratic didn't read the* /topic /topic /topic /topic... |
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| 04:21.10 | erratic | fuck the topic |
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| 04:21.19 | Guerin | heh |
| 04:21.20 | klync | lol |
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| 04:21.38 | Guerin | that's his problem - he's trying to fuck it instead of reading it |
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| 04:22.09 | djperegrine | I have a usb device plugged in, but when I plugged it in lsusb doesn't change at all |
| 04:22.24 | djperegrine | what steps should I take to get it to reconize that it exists |
| 04:22.25 | afabian | can xmms play cds directly? |
| 04:22.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: In your 'Font Preferences' go to Detail, at the top is says what the resolution is. |
| 04:22.49 | klync | afabian: ya, just add the tracks to the playlist |
| 04:22.55 | afabian | ok, thanks. |
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| 04:23.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 96 |
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| 04:23.45 | psilikon | if the debian installer does not see my NIC is there anyway to just continue the install? |
| 04:24.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: So your desktop icons are extraordinarily large too, or just the fonts? |
| 04:24.28 | isorox | djperegrine, does dmesg report anything |
| 04:24.33 | jilocasin | Waggie: both |
| 04:24.50 | jilocasin | Waggie: the windows. widgets, etc. |
| 04:25.43 | Waggie | jilocasin: Try changing the dpi to a lower number, like 72. |
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| 04:26.57 | psilikon | oh i got it. just needed to enter 'no ethernet card' |
| 04:27.10 | Waggie | jilocasin: you're actually running at 1280x1024, with no panning? |
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| 04:27.28 | jilocasin | Waggie: yep, 19" monitor |
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| 04:27.52 | rapsys | Hy |
| 04:27.59 | rapsys | I have a problem with apt-get |
| 04:28.13 | rapsys | I get this : WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 04:28.28 | rapsys | how can I fix that to add the proper key ? |
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| 04:29.48 | thedcm | is it true that "debian" is an ancient african swear word? |
| 04:29.56 | thedcm | I might be thinking of "unbuntu" |
| 04:30.06 | thedcm | "ubuntu" sorry |
| 04:30.07 | jpriest | I get the following error when installing the "testing" apt sources over network install floppies. "No such script: /usr/lib/debootstrap/scripts/etch".. stable installed fine, so I was wondering if this was a known problem with 'testing' and can it be fixed? |
| 04:30.14 | rapsys | ok |
| 04:30.18 | rapsys | I fixed that |
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| 04:31.10 | jilocasin | Waggie: 72 is the right size, but it's all "fuzzy" |
| 04:31.22 | dondelelcaro | jpriest: just install the base of stable and upgrade, or use the etch d-i, or fix the debootstrap scripts. |
| 04:31.26 | jilocasin | Waggie: do yuo think I need a better font? |
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| 04:31.33 | Paul`` | Hi all. I'm trying to access a failed server running debian woody. I've got a KVM connection to the machine and during the boot process, it freezes after checking quotas. I'm wondering what I can do at this point to get to a prompt and figure out what's gone wrong on the machine. |
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| 04:31.49 | Paul`` | last message I see is "Checking quotas... Cannot get exact used space... Results might be inaccurate." |
| 04:32.12 | mboso | how do you find out what options a package was compiled with? and what library versions it was compiled against... |
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| 04:32.24 | brick | well Paul``, you can always boot from another medium and mount its disks |
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| 04:33.29 | jpriest | dondelelcaro, I upgraded to kernel 2.6 in stable and it showed a panic error on boot. I was hoping unstable configured 2.6 from the start without much trouble. Is it all that common for the "panic" error after upgrade? |
| 04:33.33 | Paul`` | brick: I don't want to go that route just yet as it means sending someone to the datacenter... is there any key combination I can enter to have it boot read only or something of that nature so that I can get in there and figure out what the problem might be? If I press CTRL-C at that prompt, it attempts to unlink a bunch of stuff and says it's starting the system log daemon |
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| 04:34.30 | brick | Paul``: i have no idea when that happens in the boot process or whether you can get around it booting off the same medium, but i doubt it. good luck |
| 04:35.06 | [Cadet] | Paul``: tried booting single user mode |
| 04:36.00 | zeballin3 | rapsys: for the gpg error see: http://debcentral.org/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=117&forum=8 |
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| 04:37.22 | khermans_ | How to add local library path for binaries to check? I set LD_LIBRARY_PATH, and that works when I am logged in remotely, but on this shared web server PHP's system/exec are not using it :-( Is there no way? |
| 04:37.57 | khermans_ | i assume this is because my user has no effect on the Apache environment variables |
| 04:40.15 | raf256 | why dmesg shows some messages that are not logged by sysklog? |
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| 04:40.34 | raf256 | how to make sysklog to log ALLLL messages? even *.* in /etc/syslog.conf didnt helped |
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| 04:43.00 | centrx | raf256, those messages dmesg has that syslog does not are from the kernel and not sent to syslog, probably because those messages occurred before syslog was started in the bootup process or after it was stopped in the shutdown process |
| 04:43.18 | raf256 | centrx: nope |
| 04:43.19 | djperegrine | how do I search all files ? |
| 04:43.29 | djperegrine | like inculding the contents of the file? |
| 04:43.34 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.jpg" |
| 04:43.36 | brick | grep dude |
| 04:44.00 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.08 | raf256 | or get krusader program |
| 04:44.10 | djperegrine | lol |
| 04:44.15 | djperegrine | I don't have KDE |
| 04:44.20 | raf256 | djperegrine: find ./ -name "*.url" -exec grep pr0n '{}' /; or simmilar |
| 04:44.31 | raf256 | djperegrine: you dont have to have KDE to run KDE applications, mon |
| 04:44.38 | djperegrine | I don't have the lib |
| 04:44.44 | Guerin | kde is not the answer |
| 04:44.47 | raf256 | apt-get install krusader |
| 04:44.54 | raf256 | Guerin: even Linus uses kde ;) |
| 04:44.56 | djperegrine | I don't want to install the lib |
| 04:45.26 | raf256 | djperegrine: cool so go with the find&grep, or try string | grep on /dev/hda ;) |
| 04:45.41 | raf256 | strings |
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| 04:47.29 | djperegrine | so |
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| 04:50.22 | Waggie | jilocasin: What font are you currently using? |
| 04:50.37 | djperegrine | find ./ -name ".*" | grep blabla |
| 04:50.40 | djperegrine | would that work? |
| 04:50.51 | djperegrine | er |
| 04:51.12 | raf256 | somethong simmilar |
| 04:51.15 | raf256 | probably |
| 04:51.26 | raf256 | I would just use normal X tool, but... |
| 04:51.48 | arcane | does anyone know if its possible too determine if a print-job in cups if its completed/error/notdone ? |
| 04:51.50 | Waggie | djperegrine: Are you running Gnome? |
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| 04:52.01 | djperegrine | no |
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| 04:52.25 | Waggie | arcane: Try 'lpq' for starters |
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| 04:52.47 | arcane | yup, at some point will print jobs stop showing up within that tho? |
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| 04:53.18 | arcane | you can specify too show all completed or not-completed.... but surely after several thousands jobs have been passed thru your not gonna see the entire list each time (of completed) |
| 04:53.37 | Waggie | Well, if it's a printer that would show anything there at all, then in that case it'll stop showing up there when the print job has completely disappeared from the system. |
| 04:54.24 | Waggie | ie: It's completed printing, or it's gone into the bit bucket. |
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| 04:54.43 | Waggie | Though, I'm not very experienced with printing stuff. |
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| 05:01.11 | zeballin3 | I did a 'mark' in synaptic for a dist (smart) upgrade and I see nautlis and a bunch of gnome stuff is slated for removal? |
| 05:02.11 | hornhead | does anyone know how to upload an entire directory with sftp? |
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| 05:03.23 | arcane | Waggie, im surprised there no functionality in the api to query for a job and figure out what status it i in, how many retries its had etc etc |
| 05:03.52 | [Cadet] | hornhead: scp -r files_to_upload user@host:/destination works nicely |
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| 05:06.25 | SerajewelKS | hornhead: or tar it, upload, and untar |
| 05:07.04 | odla | well i upgraded to testing but now my kernel wont' load my X won't start |
| 05:07.57 | SerajewelKS | odla: if your kernel doesn't load, then how could your X start? |
| 05:08.03 | SerajewelKS | odla: what exactly is going wrong? |
| 05:08.18 | Waggie | odla: Providing error messages is vital. |
| 05:08.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, well it loaded initially in 2.6.8 |
| 05:08.38 | SerajewelKS | odla: and please define "load" |
| 05:08.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i was able to get to command prompt where X failed |
| 05:09.09 | odla | SerajewelKS, this is likely because i was used X.Org 6.9 from bpo |
| 05:09.10 | SerajewelKS | odla: and whether or not it "loaded" in 2.6.8 is irrelevant. as i asked, what exactly is going wrong, not what used to work? |
| 05:09.35 | odla | SerajewelKS, well when i try to boot into 2.6.15 or 2.6.8 it forces me to run fschk |
| 05:09.41 | odla | SerajewelKS, or reboot |
| 05:09.46 | SerajewelKS | odla: so? run fsck. |
| 05:10.07 | odla | SerajewelKS, well i run fsck and then it brings me to a prompt where my user is (none) |
| 05:10.13 | odla | SerajewelKS, it tells me to reboot, so i reboot |
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| 05:10.28 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i get to the same panic where it asks me to run fsck again |
| 05:10.40 | SerajewelKS | odla: what does the panic say? |
| 05:10.50 | SerajewelKS | odla: and don't paraphrase. what *exactly* shows up on your monitor? |
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| 05:11.37 | odla | SerajewelKS, i don't remember....i have only one computer and i unfortunately can't be in linux and windows at the same time |
| 05:11.43 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am d/l knoppix now |
| 05:11.52 | odla | SerajewelKS, i am going to try to save all of my data |
| 05:11.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: do you have pencil and paper? |
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| 05:12.03 | odla | SerajewelKS, then i'll give you a better idea of the panic when i try to reboot |
| 05:12.11 | isorox | odla: what file system is your root partition (reiser, ext3). Did you complile support for in into the kernel, and if so did you do it as a module? |
| 05:12.11 | klync | odla: so, are you booting into an emergency repair console? |
| 05:12.12 | odla | SerajewelKS, i'll write it down |
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| 05:12.50 | klync | isorox: that's probably a good guess, odla ^^ |
| 05:12.58 | odla | so right after it asks about udev it tells me something about my filesystem being read-only or something |
| 05:13.11 | SerajewelKS | and, fyi, when the kernel panics, it stops dead. it doesn't panic and then give you a shell to run fsck. a panic is just that: the kernel yells something at you and halts. |
| 05:13.19 | odla | ok |
| 05:13.31 | SerajewelKS | so either it's not panicing or it's not giving you a shell |
| 05:13.33 | odla | again...i'll give you guys a better idea of my problem when i can reboot |
| 05:13.41 | klync | :) |
| 05:13.50 | odla | it halts then asks me to enter root password or press control + D to reboot |
| 05:13.56 | SerajewelKS | if you have a digital camera you can take shots and post them, too.. so you don't have to write it down |
| 05:14.04 | odla | that's a good idea |
| 05:14.13 | SerajewelKS | odla: that is maintenance mode |
| 05:14.31 | SerajewelKS | odla: if you got that far then it was able to mount / |
| 05:14.34 | centrx | odla, what is the error message |
| 05:14.39 | odla | SerajewelKS, ok |
| 05:14.55 | SerajewelKS | odla: but, i think you mentioned it said something about read-only.. so it probably mounted it RO |
| 05:15.10 | odla | centrx, i don't remember...it just tells me to enter root password or reboot |
| 05:15.15 | centrx | which would be the standard procedure |
| 05:15.34 | centrx | odla, without the error message there is really no way to tell you much of what is wrong or how it can be helped |
| 05:15.51 | odla | well i know :) |
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| 05:17.50 | odla | do you guys know if i'll be able to access my debian partition from a knoppix cd (note: i've already posted this question to #knoppix with no response) |
| 05:17.58 | odla | and yes i know this is #debian and not #knoppix |
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| 05:19.00 | dawg | of course |
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| 05:20.21 | bunga | hi all what tool to load webserver fast |
| 05:20.22 | caphuso | odla: depends on the exact nature of your debian partitions and what features the knoppix kernel supports. so the answer is a clear and exact "maybe" |
| 05:20.28 | bunga | i'm use apache2 with php4 |
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| 05:20.31 | bunga | and mysql 5 |
| 05:21.21 | litage | how can you limit the upload and download speed for a NIC? |
| 05:21.24 | tyler | how do i see contents of my usb hdd? |
| 05:21.47 | mark_ | I was wondering is there is some page which is dedicated to solving "evasive problems", e.g. when it is not clear what's happening and what's wrong -- but something is wrong. E.g. in my case the system boots 45 minutes (instead of 1) |
| 05:21.49 | roue | it's usually made available at /dev/sda |
| 05:22.03 | bunga | !tweak apache |
| 05:22.08 | bunga | !infov tweak apache |
| 05:22.11 | bunga | !info tweak apache |
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| 05:23.04 | roue | mark_ start in single user mode and manually launch stuff in /etc/init.d till you find the culprit |
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| 05:25.26 | psilikon | how do i get back into the installation program from the console in debian? |
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| 05:25.51 | mark_ | roue: That would not help in my case (I already found an answer: the problem was in the fact that caching of the last 10 megs of memory was disabled, which by accident are hevaily used by linux)... But the amount of time I spent searching could be significantly decreased if there would be such a page.. so was wondering if such a page exists or is worth creating? :) |
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| 05:27.12 | roue | mark_ post a summary with as much detail as you can gather to one of the linux usenet groups.] |
| 05:27.17 | Paul`` | well, I'll tell you what... damn annoying that a server was brought down by quota |
| 05:27.34 | roue | then it'll be googlable in full till the sun burns out. |
| 05:27.53 | roue | that's always the first place I look |
| 05:28.11 | bunga | heloooooooooooooooooooo worlddddd |
| 05:28.37 | klync | if i've made a .deb that might be useful to others, where's a good place to submit it? |
| 05:28.49 | mark_ | roue: well... yeah... but there are already such descriptions in usenet newsgroup (that's where i found the answer_, but i had to try 1000 different queries and spend half a day on finding it :) |
| 05:29.20 | peterS | klync: check www.apt-get.org, they might be able to arrange somewhere |
| 05:29.34 | peterS | klync: also www.dotdeb.org |
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| 05:33.23 | klync | peterS: hmm... well, since it's a one-off, i doubt a real apt repository would host it, so maybe just on my website instead, tho no one will find it there |
| 05:33.45 | peterS | klync: that's always the problem - publicity for the stuff you want people to have access to |
| 05:33.50 | klync | peterS: it's a patched kernel, fyi |
| 05:34.02 | peterS | klync: out of curiosity, what sort of patchign? |
| 05:34.04 | klync | ... which i'm about to try out, now that it's installed |
| 05:34.26 | klync | peterS: realtime-lsm patch for audio |
| 05:34.42 | Kofif | what sound server is used nowdays with kernels 2.6 ? |
| 05:34.44 | klync | peterS: and raid1 built in :) |
| 05:34.50 | klync | Kofif: alsa |
| 05:34.58 | Kofif | no more artsd ? |
| 05:35.09 | klync | err, well, for a sound server... |
| 05:35.10 | peterS | Kofif: you can use any of them. it seems jackd is on its way up |
| 05:35.23 | peterS | Kofif: with alsa you don't really *need* any sound server though |
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| 05:36.37 | Kofif | when i try to play soun i get permission denie in the debug window |
| 05:36.48 | Kofif | what can i do to make it have premission |
| 05:36.49 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:37.00 | peterS | Kofif: 'adduser yourusername audio' |
| 05:37.04 | gpm | um. hey guys. i just installed and ran ntpdate, but my clock remains the same, and incorrect. any clues or solutions? |
| 05:37.19 | peterS | gpm: ntpdate refuses to do anything if ntpd is running |
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| 05:37.47 | gpm | peterS: there's no ntpd showing up in ps ax |
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| 05:38.03 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:38.07 | Kofif | still dosnt play |
| 05:38.11 | peterS | gpm: so what did ntpdate do? did it print any errors or anything? |
| 05:38.26 | gpm | peterS: i ran the init.d script. no errors.... |
| 05:38.28 | Kofif | if i try to use oss it tells me failed to open audio device /dev/dsp |
| 05:38.36 | Kofif | premission denie |
| 05:38.38 | Azar | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:38.53 | peterS | Kofif: after the adduser you have to log out / log in for it to take effect |
| 05:38.59 | Kofif | ok lets try |
| 05:39.05 | gpm | peterS: if i run ntpdate -b time.nist.gov, i get: 12 Jan 05:38:36 ntpdate[7505]: step time server 192.43.244.18 offset 0.095694 sec |
| 05:39.27 | peterS | gpm: so it thinks your clock is within 0.1 seconds of being correct. you disagree? |
| 05:39.51 | gpm | peterS: nm, i needed to do tzconfig...the timezone was utc for some reason |
| 05:40.03 | peterS | gpm: *nod*, that was going to be my next question (: |
| 05:40.39 | Kofif | http://pastebin.com/502016 look at this |
| 05:41.04 | Kofif | after restarting x and doing adduser $USER audio ( when $USER is my username ) |
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| 05:41.36 | peterS | Kofif: type 'groups' and see if the 'audio' group is in there |
| 05:42.11 | Kofif | no cant see that |
| 05:42.31 | Kofif | ~$ cat /etc/passwd | grep audio |
| 05:42.33 | Kofif | none. |
| 05:42.40 | dawg | .. |
| 05:42.55 | xam | Kofif: did you restart X and _then_ the adduser? |
| 05:43.01 | Kofif | no |
| 05:43.08 | Kofif | adduser then restart X |
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| 05:44.08 | Kofif | should i chmod 755 /dev/dsp ? |
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| 05:45.16 | Kofif | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp -> /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.25 | Kofif | crw-rw---- 1 root audio 14, 3 Jan 12 04:16 /dev/dsp0 |
| 05:45.27 | peterS | Kofif: you seem a bit confused. I told you to type 'groups' and you typed 'cat /etc/passwd | grep'. |
| 05:45.40 | Kofif | ~# groups |
| 05:45.42 | Kofif | root |
| 05:45.50 | peterS | Kofif: I didn't mean as root, I meant as your normal user. sorry. |
| 05:45.53 | Kofif | ~$ groups |
| 05:45.54 | Kofif | awk |
| 05:46.14 | peterS | Kofif: ok so you didn't do the 'adduser' before logging in this latest time. because if you had, it would say 'awk audio' |
| 05:46.21 | peterS | Kofif: so do it: adduser awk audio |
| 05:46.27 | Kilhd | After using command "apt-get install tcl8.4" eggdrop complains that tcl isn't installed and I need to pass configure --with-tclpath How can I find where it is installed? |
| 05:46.46 | peterS | Kilhd: it'll be /usr/bin/tcl8.4 most likely |
| 05:46.49 | Kofif | The user `awk' is already a member of `audio'. |
| 05:46.55 | Kilhd | k |
| 05:46.59 | Waggie | Gods, people still use eggdrop bots? |
| 05:47.10 | peterS | Kofif: ok so log out and back in again |
| 05:47.12 | Kofif | you wont imagine how many :] |
| 05:47.16 | Waggie | I remember setting up an eggdrop about 8 years ago.. |
| 05:47.24 | Kilhd | What's wrong with eggdrop? |
| 05:47.26 | Waggie | Or was it longer.. |
| 05:47.34 | peterS | Kilhd: actually do this, 'dpkg -l tcl8.4 | grep bin/' |
| 05:47.35 | Waggie | Nothing, I'm just feeling old.. Don't mind me. |
| 05:47.42 | Waggie | :) |
| 05:47.43 | zinx | Kilhd: has always had some pretty horrible vulnerabilities |
| 05:47.43 | Kilhd | heh, k. |
| 05:47.52 | zinx | Kilhd: it was programmed with security completely out of mind |
| 05:48.03 | Waggie | Very true.. |
| 05:48.10 | Kilhd | Is there an alternative? I am open to suggestion. |
| 05:48.15 | Waggie | infobots seem to be all the rage these days. |
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| 05:48.20 | Kofif | Works |
| 05:48.25 | Kofif | thank you very much ! |
| 05:48.32 | peterS | Waggie: infobots don't have the same functionality eggdrops do, though |
| 05:48.34 | Kofif | ok |
| 05:48.43 | Waggie | Those, nowhere near as many features as eggdrop, though. |
| 05:48.49 | Waggie | Yeah, I know.. |
| 05:48.51 | Kofif | got new kernel got x got irc got music ... ummm |
| 05:49.00 | peterS | Waggie: that's like saying "your portable mp3 player is an old brand, you should get a car stereo" |
| 05:49.02 | Kofif | what do you say mates xine or VLC ? |
| 05:49.08 | Waggie | Kofif: All you need now is porno. :) |
| 05:49.12 | Waggie | VLC.. |
| 05:49.16 | Kofif | thought so |
| 05:49.35 | Kofif | omg 24mb |
| 05:49.47 | Kofif | it comes with free porno or something ? |
| 05:49.49 | Waggie | VLC has lots of features. :) |
| 05:49.51 | Kofif | :] |
| 05:49.57 | Waggie | But no porno. |
| 05:50.05 | Kofif | heehee |
| 05:50.20 | Kofif | the only thing that i must get on working is hebrew fonts for my console .. |
| 05:50.29 | dawg | mplayer. |
| 05:50.30 | Kofif | only managed to set it to work with X :\ |
| 05:50.51 | Kofif | and with vim :] |
| 05:51.10 | Waggie | I've never set the console for anything but english character sets.. |
| 05:51.19 | Kofif | i did, |
| 05:51.24 | Kofif | its an art |
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| 05:51.43 | Kofif | hebrew is a right to left language, just imagin the bugs :P |
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| 05:51.47 | Kilhd | bah.. ok now eggdrop tells me my tcl is much too old and to install tcl8.4 = / |
| 05:52.01 | Kofif | Kilhd so compile tcl from source |
| 05:52.19 | Kofif | or use older eggdrop :] |
| 05:52.23 | Waggie | Kofif: What's frightening is that from what I hear, Linux and Mac have the best right-to-left support. |
| 05:52.36 | Kilhd | Heh.. Guess I will try that now. |
| 05:52.39 | Kofif | bullshit |
| 05:52.49 | Kofif | linux is not good at all with right to left |
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| 05:53.06 | Kofif | win32 got it sorted much better. |
| 05:53.24 | Waggie | I'm curious, why did you configure with an english character set during install? |
| 05:54.02 | Kofif | because the keyboard makes some issues with kernel 2.6 upgrade |
| 05:54.09 | Kofif | ( as i learned tonight ) |
| 05:54.10 | Kofif | lol |
| 05:54.15 | Waggie | Ah |
| 05:54.17 | Waggie | Interesting.. |
| 05:54.32 | Kofif | 3 hours i didnt know why im keeping ending in a dead end. |
| 05:54.38 | Kofif | and im NOT new to linux |
| 05:54.54 | Kofif | i just forgot A-LOT |
| 05:54.56 | Kofif | :\ |
| 05:55.02 | Waggie | <nods> |
| 05:55.28 | Kofif | i used to have a nice bash interface that i wrote that installs and configures everything for me |
| 05:55.34 | Kofif | lost it on hdd fail :\ |
| 05:55.40 | Waggie | That's a bummer. :( |
| 05:55.55 | Kofif | and when you do bash interfaces , you do it once and forget :] |
| 05:56.47 | Kofif | here is a free one http://www.yonatan.securehost.co.il/backup/bash/cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:56.54 | Kofif | :] just sh cpuinfo.txt |
| 05:57.16 | Kofif | still has a nasty bug with the maths but im too lazy to make a workaround. |
| 05:57.33 | caphuso | badly written |
| 05:57.49 | Kofif | written under a heavy influence of Marijuana |
| 05:57.50 | Kofif | ;] |
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| 05:58.18 | buu | Ok, so what file system do I put on large raid?\ |
| 05:58.27 | Kofif | me and my friend just screened on the same shell and startd writing |
| 05:58.50 | Kofif | dose it work for you ? |
| 05:58.53 | Kofif | my script |
| 05:58.54 | Kofif | ? |
| 05:59.14 | Kofif | it should work on just about any distro |
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| 06:02.31 | caphuso | this is great... echo `sed -e "s,\\\[a-z],,g" /etc/issue` |
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| 06:03.04 | Kofif | tnx |
| 06:03.30 | caphuso | you should append a "| cat" to it though |
| 06:03.51 | caphuso | and maybe even a '| while read a; do echo "$a"; done' |
| 06:03.53 | Kofif | got better ideas just make em and mail :] |
| 06:04.07 | Kofif | i wanted to keep it simple |
| 06:04.17 | Kofif | only if you can fix the ram calculation bug |
| 06:04.22 | Kofif | that's the major bug |
| 06:04.45 | Kofif | Memory Usage: [303/503] MB |
| 06:04.46 | Kofif | :\ |
| 06:04.50 | Kofif | 512!!!! |
| 06:05.24 | Kofif | i thought ill do like a table with parameters like if the value is from 500 to 512 then echo 512 |
| 06:05.28 | Kofif | but that's ugly. |
| 06:05.35 | Kofif | i want it to come from the hardware |
| 06:05.49 | dos000 | is there a one liner to check if i can correctly send email via exim4 ? also what do you use as smtp for outgoing mail ? |
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| 06:06.15 | deadcat | dos000: echo blah | mail user@somewhere |
| 06:06.36 | Kofif | :] reminds me of mailbomb scripts |
| 06:06.38 | deadcat | postfix and sbcglobal/yahoo outgoing anyone? i cant get it working |
| 06:06.40 | Kofif | lol |
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| 06:07.01 | Zugschlus | !dpkg tell dos000 about swaks |
| 06:07.09 | dos000 | deadcat, i tried echo "my test" | mail -s "test message" me@<mycom.com> i still dont get it :-( |
| 06:07.26 | deadcat | dos000: we have same problem then. what ISP you using? |
| 06:07.36 | Kofif | is the service running ? |
| 06:07.40 | deadcat | dos000: check mailq |
| 06:08.04 | caphuso | and check /var/log/exim4/* |
| 06:08.18 | Kofif | umm i love exim |
| 06:08.18 | dos000 | deadcat, i see frozen mail ! |
| 06:08.45 | Kofif | well that's good :] its working. |
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| 06:08.45 | Kofif | at least tryed to. |
| 06:08.49 | deadcat | dos000: time to fix exim. we have similar problem |
| 06:09.11 | caphuso | frozen mail isn't a problem, it's a symptom |
| 06:10.11 | dos000 | caphuso, i think my smpt for outgoing is screwd. are you supposed to run an smtp deamon on the same machine for sending mail ? |
| 06:10.17 | Kofif | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:10.25 | Kofif | meaning |
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| 06:10.46 | Kofif | check your hosts |
| 06:10.52 | caphuso | dos000: read the log files. that'll tell you what went wrong |
| 06:11.13 | Kofif | exim.conf <<-- + man + time |
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| 06:14.17 | holycow | hey guys, if i want to start a service when a server boots i just haveto symlink to it in rcS.d correct? |
| 06:14.23 | dos000 | caphuso, i set the smtp server as localhost so it says " remote host address is the local host: " ... |
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| 06:14.40 | Paul`` | I had a debian woody system that would not boot and would hang when checking quotas... I subsequently disabled quotas in /etc/fstab and was able to get the system to boot without issue.... any clues as to what might have prevented the system from booting and how I could go about ensuring that the system/root processes aren't inhibited by quota limitations? |
| 06:15.00 | Kofif | errrrrr i just loged on to one of my servers , what do i see , one of the users idles for 8hrs in the SSH |
| 06:15.00 | dos000 | caphuso, my assumption was that the smtp server is running on the same machine mail is originating from |
| 06:15.04 | holycow | how come the last 2 symlinks i put in rcS.d are now in rc3.d? if i want to delete those i remove them from rc3.d and recreate new links in rcS.d (the startup scripts are new anyway) ? |
| 06:15.05 | atrus | does anybody know how to extract the audio commentary my camera (hp photosmart 435) attached to an image? |
| 06:15.32 | caphuso | dos000: "the smtp server"? |
| 06:15.33 | Kofif | is there anything i hate more then idle users on my machines ?! :| omg i wanna shoot somebody! |
| 06:17.07 | vulture | Kofif: just kill them.. *shrugs* |
| 06:17.17 | Kofif | haha , not kill |
| 06:17.19 | Kofif | slay even :] |
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| 06:17.28 | caphuso | holycow: read /etc/init.d/README and all the docs it points to to learn which runlevel is used when and for what |
| 06:17.42 | holycow | caphuso, oh right ! good enough, thanks! |
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| 06:17.44 | benjamindees | what's the best way to configure wine in sarge? |
| 06:19.00 | dos000 | caphuso, in dpkg-reconfigure exim4-config i selected "mail sent by smart host" so it asks for the outgoing smtp server address.. but all i need is for this box to send mail ! |
| 06:19.26 | Kofif | Max Out: 15.5 Mb/s (15.5%) Average Out: 3943.2 kb/s (3.9%) Current Out: 1232.8 kb/s (1.2%) |
| 06:19.36 | Kofif | oo 15.5Mb/s yesterday |
| 06:19.42 | caphuso | dos000: use your ISP mail server as smarthost |
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| 06:20.04 | dos000 | caphuso, my server is in a data center :-( |
| 06:20.31 | caphuso | dos000: then don't use the smarthost setup |
| 06:20.47 | EleckttrusS | ChanServ, |
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| 06:22.40 | dos000 | caphuso, thanks .. i used internet site and seems working |
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| 06:23.25 | Kofif | anyone got to use itanium based machines in realtime yet ? :] |
| 06:23.36 | Kofif | im wondering if its afficent. |
| 06:23.49 | xam | Kofif: running one here |
| 06:23.59 | Kofif | as a server i mean |
| 06:24.29 | Kofif | mail / web / sql / ircd / ftp |
| 06:24.45 | Kofif | and i mean a hard working one. |
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| 06:24.47 | jm_ | we have several Itanium servers here |
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| 06:25.00 | Kofif | how are they load wise |
| 06:25.10 | Kofif | game servers even. |
| 06:25.47 | xam | Kofif: game servers? I doubt you'll find any game server software for ia64 ... |
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| 06:25.59 | jm_ | they're not being used for such things - they're test machines for our product |
| 06:26.06 | Kofif | ah |
| 06:26.08 | Kofif | test machines |
| 06:26.16 | Kofif | im talking about a working internet server |
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| 06:26.29 | Kofif | all the way used |
| 06:26.33 | Kofif | proxy even! lol |
| 06:26.46 | jm_ | ROFFLE |
| 06:27.03 | xam | jm_ I feel with you ;) |
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| 06:31.39 | sandman | Does assembly require compiling? |
| 06:32.04 | Kofif | duh |
| 06:32.25 | xam | sandman: yes, kind of. Although it is very simple. |
| 06:32.27 | sandman | And when you write a program in C, it is a source file, which is turned into an object file, which is finally turned into a binary. Does assembly go straight from source to binary? I'm confused on the subject |
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| 06:33.00 | sandman | Or when you write a program in assembly, are you actually kind of starting out with an object file? |
| 06:33.03 | Kofif | ircin from ns servers is not cool. |
| 06:33.46 | Kofif | ok gtg |
| 06:33.47 | Kofif | :> |
| 06:34.00 | Kofif | c ya all ill pop by later or sometime |
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| 06:34.38 | deadcat | anyone plays counter-strike on linux? |
| 06:34.50 | xam | sandman: assembly is basically an object file, but with the CPU commands in text form |
| 06:35.15 | buu | So, how do I automagically set my clock? |
| 06:35.18 | sses | hi |
| 06:35.49 | buu | Oh, ntpdate |
| 06:35.50 | buu | Hurrah! |
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| 06:36.35 | sandman | xam: Right. And assembly is compiled using an assembler. |
| 06:36.52 | sandman | xam: Object files are unoptimized code, yes? |
| 06:36.59 | sandman | xam: Are object files binary? Are they actually executable? |
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| 06:37.51 | acad | i think mysql isn't starting when the server reboots, should i be doing something to tell it to start with init.d? |
| 06:37.57 | dos000 | anyone knows how to clear mailq ... google is not helping |
| 06:38.10 | eflynn | hi all, i'm designing a site for the cs dept of my university. i would like a news column that could be updated by a web interface. i'd write one myself in PHP but i'm worried about security and this has probably been done before anyway. something small and simple. any suggestions? |
| 06:38.13 | dos000 | exim mailq that is |
| 06:38.16 | afabian | The linker works on object files to link in library code, or put in the appropriate calls to access libraries. So, object files aren't executable. |
| 06:38.43 | dos000 | eflynn, try drupal .. or mambo they should have that |
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| 06:38.59 | eflynn | dos000: okay is it small? |
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| 06:39.25 | xam | sandman: yes. It is basically like every other programming language, only that this one only has very simple commands (basically the CPU instructions) as the syntax. Object files are binary, but usually not executable until they are linked |
| 06:39.26 | dos000 | eflynn, its a full blown cms ... |
| 06:40.06 | dos000 | eflynn, simple for who ? |
| 06:40.46 | eflynn | dos000: simple like not a bazillion options and less than 100k in scripts |
| 06:41.48 | dos000 | eflynn, check it out. i dont see why you want to reinvent here. at one one you will want/need the features. they are both very solid platforms |
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| 06:41.55 | buu | So, anyone want to recommend a file system for a largish raid'd volume that's mostly going to store largish files/ |
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| 06:43.06 | eflynn | kk i'll look into it. thanks |
| 06:43.11 | xam | sandman: an object file is code generated by a compiler or assembler, and doesn't have anything to do whether it is optimised or not. They and be further processed to become (part of) a library or an executable using a linker and other tools |
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| 06:44.07 | xam | buu: xfs is good for large files |
| 06:44.15 | buu | xam: By large files I mean over a meg |
| 06:44.27 | xam | buu: me too |
| 06:44.35 | buu | Oh good. |
| 06:44.43 | buu | Is it nicely stable and all that goodness? |
| 06:44.50 | xam | buu: yes |
| 06:44.53 | buu | Hurrah! |
| 06:45.00 | buu | I shall look in to it most deeply. |
| 06:45.06 | buu | OR at least, glancingly. |
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| 06:46.00 | dos000 | buu, i just read about cluster file system of some sort made by a film company ... what was it ... cant get my hand on it :-( |
| 06:46.17 | buu | dos000: Sounds.. overwrought |
| 06:47.07 | nevyn | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:47.20 | dos000 | nevyn, both |
| 06:47.26 | Gnea | dos000: what film company? |
| 06:47.31 | nevyn | not CXFS then? |
| 06:47.41 | dos000 | nevyn, i should say supported by |
| 06:47.48 | nevyn | Lustre? |
| 06:47.51 | dos000 | there |
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| 06:48.39 | sandman | Can MSVB programs be compiled to run on other architectures like SPARC? |
| 06:48.46 | dos000 | www.lustre.org cant remember where i read it |
| 06:48.58 | sandman | Because in my class I'm being taught that Visual Basic is supposed to be machine-independent, and I think it's rather much a rigged question. |
| 06:49.14 | dos000 | nevyn, are you familiar with lustre ? |
| 06:49.25 | nevyn | I've heard of it... |
| 06:49.40 | nevyn | and I know some people who use it but I havn't implemented it myself |
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| 06:49.59 | shad0w1e | How do I view memory allocation (used/free/swap) from the console? |
| 06:50.45 | nevyn | free |
| 06:50.53 | shad0w1e | thanks! |
| 06:50.55 | afabian | One could reasonably view any language as machine independent as long as it can be implemented on a Turing-complete machine. But Visual Basic. Gag. |
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| 06:51.16 | nevyn | sandman: machine independant may even be true.. |
| 06:51.27 | karlpinc | hello, anybody using LVM2 on their root partition? |
| 06:51.40 | nevyn | given an alpha version of VLBblah.dll and windows for alpha it might work |
| 06:51.40 | Gnea | karlpinc: that's possible? |
| 06:51.43 | sandman | nevyn: yeah but you must be using windows. |
| 06:51.58 | nevyn | sandman: it makes no claim about os independance |
| 06:52.00 | sandman | nevyn: Visual Basic binaries are legally incompatible with other OS's, yes? |
| 06:52.03 | karlpinc | gnea: well, the faq says it is. I have a separate /boot. |
| 06:52.06 | Gnea | hrm, i suppose initrd off of /boot ... |
| 06:52.06 | dos000 | nevyn, this is where i got it from http://hardware.newsforge.com/hardware/05/12/21/2125202.shtml?tid=69&tid=32 |
| 06:52.11 | afabian | It's possible, with the black magic of a separate boot and an initrd. |
| 06:52.22 | karlpinc | gena: yes |
| 06:52.23 | Gnea | :) |
| 06:52.47 | afabian | I wanted my root under LVM control for that way cool snapshotting feature. |
| 06:52.49 | Gnea | i tried doing lvm2 in suse 10.1 before, it didn't quite work out |
| 06:52.54 | NoboruKun | can debian handle heavy traffic as much as freebsd ? |
| 06:53.01 | karlpinc | gena: However, I do get a message about "Can't deactivate volume group" on shutdown. |
| 06:53.02 | xam | sandman: errm, define machine-independent. Most people would associate with that term that the generated code can be executed on any machine, much like java. This is not the case with VisualBasic. You could say it is machine.independent when it comes to the language syntax / source code, but AFAIK it is only/mostly used on Windows ... |
| 06:53.12 | Gnea | karlpinc: who's gena? |
| 06:53.23 | karlpinc | Yes, I want to try snapshots too. for backup. |
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| 06:53.46 | karlpinc | Gnea: sorry. fingers got away from me. |
| 06:54.08 | afabian | NoboruKun, the Linux 2.6 kernel series seemed to do better than FreeBSD 5.x by a few benchmarks I saw kicking around. But FreeBSD and Linux have both been under development for a while, and NetBSD cleaned up their network implementation not long ago. So... try them in your situation and see which does better. |
| 06:54.20 | Gnea | snapshots would be cool, i wonder if anyone's made a knoppix-based lvm2 installer |
| 06:54.37 | karlpinc | Anyhow, is anything written to disk when a volume group is deactivated? If not I guess it does not matter I'm getting the message. |
| 06:54.51 | NoboruKun | afabian, many thanks ..:) |
| 06:55.15 | newbie2debian | does sarge come with a firewall? |
| 06:55.18 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, i dislike the firewall in debian,its way too complicated to configure |
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| 06:55.54 | NoboruKun | afabian, i mean,has debian ever thought to introduct the firewall thing from freebsd ? i heard it was from openbsd to fbsd though |
| 06:56.02 | NoboruKun | introduce* |
| 06:56.08 | Gnea | karlpinc: i'm not sure, i never got it to work right in the first place |
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| 06:56.15 | karlpinc | (I really like OpenBSDs pf firewalling.) |
| 06:56.29 | newbie2debian | what firewall comes with debian sarge please? |
| 06:56.33 | afabian | NoboruKun, you're probably better off using whatever you're more comfortable with, really. I doubt the performance difference would be dramatic. |
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| 06:56.49 | karlpinc | Gnea: I just used the Sarge installer and found the trick was to use the 2.6 kernel. Then it worked fine. |
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| 06:57.23 | NoboruKun | afabian, hmm |
| 06:57.50 | afabian | NoboruKun, I doubt pf is an easy port to Linux. and I gather that iptables is more powerful, just ... a little inscrutable at times. I don't really know, I only set up pf once and the mere sight of iptables frightens me. |
| 06:58.29 | NoboruKun | i m scared of iptables :( |
| 06:58.40 | NoboruKun | Too many rules |
| 06:58.59 | Gnea | karlpinc: sarge installer with 2.6 will set LVM2 up? |
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| 06:59.10 | karlpinc | Gnea: Yes. |
| 06:59.14 | Gnea | ! |
| 06:59.34 | Gnea | of all the times i've used that, i never tried LVM2... never noticed it either |
| 06:59.35 | sandman | Are there any northbridges include IDE channels? |
| 06:59.39 | NoboruKun | afabian, so usually the different performance is depending on the kernel basically ? |
| 06:59.40 | xam | Noboru: iptables alone is not complicated, you'll get used to it. But in combination with arp/ebtables the nightmare begins ... |
| 06:59.41 | sandman | That is, northbridges that control HDDs? |
| 06:59.49 | sandman | Or are those generally still reserved for southbridges? |
| 07:00.14 | aerosmith | karlpinc: apt-get install firestarter,or apt-get install kmyfirewall in my opinion,or ipkungfu script is very good,there's also guarddog,i think,i prefer firestarter |
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| 07:00.34 | afabian | NoboruKun, yep. Linux 2.4 would perform differently than 2.6. Different operations take different amounts of time, so what is actually faster in practice is actually pretty hard to determine without just trying it out. |
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| 07:00.44 | karlpinc | Gnea: You manually partition. First you physically partition (in giant gobs except for the /boot), then you make physical volumes and the logical volumes from there. |
| 07:00.58 | Gnea | karlpinc: yeah |
| 07:01.04 | NoboruKun | afabian, i have tried both |
| 07:01.05 | NoboruKun | but |
| 07:01.30 | NoboruKun | i haven't tried them much,because i didn't have the chance to test them all in an extremely heavy traffic and such |
| 07:01.41 | NoboruKun | so i have been seeking for info about them online |
| 07:01.42 | Gnea | i still have to fix this nvidia problem on my laptop |
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| 07:01.51 | karlpinc | Gnea: No point in further partioning the logical volumes AFIK, I just put fs on them. |
| 07:01.54 | kino | is there any way to install rxvt with -pixmap support? |
| 07:02.08 | roue | bunga any luck? I got bumped off. |
| 07:02.10 | Gnea | it fixed on some other systems, but this laptop seems to have a problem of its own |
| 07:02.30 | karlpinc | aerosmith: I've heard good things about firestarter. |
| 07:02.49 | afabian | kino, I'm not sure exactly what that is, but the packaging system is pretty darn flexible. I downloaded the xemacs source, recompiled with a different widget set, and reinstalled. |
| 07:03.00 | karlpinc | Gnea: (Unless you know of some reason to not to put fs's directly on the lvs.) |
| 07:03.04 | kino | so I have to compile it? |
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| 07:03.25 | aerosmith | karlpinc: very easy,very good documentation,home page is www.fs-security.com i believe |
| 07:03.29 | afabian | kino, I don't really know what pixmap support is. But if compiling is required, you don't have to resort to /usr/local |
| 07:03.43 | kino | afabian: it lets you use a background image |
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| 07:04.06 | karlpinc | aerosmith: My trouble is I always like to frob the knobs, and wind up decending into config files. |
| 07:04.12 | Gnea | kino: apt-get source rxvt |
| 07:04.13 | NoboruKun | I plan to install debian |
| 07:04.43 | NoboruKun | for real,i am very much like the apt thing in debian this was the original reason which was letting me into debian for real |
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| 07:05.09 | NoboruKun | but i cannot find a book to learn debian |
| 07:05.09 | xam | NorboruKun: linux is very powerful - but can be very complex - when it comes to processing network packets, just look at this picture:http://ebtables.sourceforge.net/br_fw_ia/PacketFlow.png ... but the networking stack is still one of the fastest and scaleable out there |
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| 07:05.12 | Gnea | NoboruKun: so go install it |
| 07:05.23 | Haukkari | Hello everyone! How can I limit access to a computer for only one specific group? |
| 07:05.24 | kino | I switched to sid hehehe |
| 07:05.27 | NoboruKun | all of them are for other Linux distro <RH the most> plus BSDs |
| 07:05.28 | Gnea | NoboruKun: best way is to just install it and go from there... |
| 07:05.33 | Gnea | !newbie-guide |
| 07:05.33 | dpkg | well, newbie-guide is you've decided to do away with windows or are pondering it and want to use Linux.. good for you! But this isn't windows, you can't just install it and be up and running unless it's a livecd, that isn't even finished yet.. you need to RTFM (Read The Fine Manual) which are located at http://www.justlinux.com and http://www.tldp.org, also see http://www.debian.org and http://www.google.com chances are they know the answer! |
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| 07:06.09 | sses | does anyone know the command to reconfigure my sources.list simmilar to "base-config"? |
| 07:06.23 | xam | sses: apt-setup |
| 07:06.27 | Gnea | apt-setup |
| 07:06.31 | NoboruKun | xam, great picture :) |
| 07:06.31 | sses | thanks!!! |
| 07:06.34 | karlpinc | Soo..., anybody know if deactivating a volume group writes to disk? |
| 07:06.43 | afabian | NoboruKun, there's a Debian reference. Debian is very much a community project, unlike some commercial distributions, and you find a lot of HOWTOs and community support and such. If that's your bag, Debian is a good place to be. |
| 07:06.49 | sses | been looking for it for an while |
| 07:06.58 | sses | off of # |
| 07:07.02 | sses | II assume |
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| 07:07.22 | karlpinc | NoboruKun: aptitude is good, because it keeps track of what you asked to be installed v.s. what got installed automatically to support what you've asked for. |
| 07:08.01 | afabian | NoboruKun, stuff that's Debian specific is well-documented. Debian actually has a very specific policy. The rest is really kind of Linux-in-general knowledge. |
| 07:08.03 | NoboruKun | cool |
| 07:08.04 | Haukkari | Anyone? How can I allow only one group to login to a computer? |
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| 07:08.17 | xam | damn, that movie I just watched was bad ... |
| 07:08.33 | NoboruKun | afabian, yeah |
| 07:08.34 | karlpinc | Haukkari: The answer lurkes somwhere in Pam. |
| 07:08.48 | Gnea | Haukkari: change shells |
| 07:08.59 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah, that much I figured out already... |
| 07:09.08 | xam | I won't recommend 'mission impossible 2' to anybodf |
| 07:09.14 | Haukkari | karlpinc: I guess it's a lot of reading man-pages for me. |
| 07:09.25 | NoboruKun | Thank you all for the info. |
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| 07:10.09 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's a general include that all the pam modules use. You can modify that. I just haven't read the different module docs in a while. |
| 07:10.30 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (in /etc/pam.d/ is where the include is.) |
| 07:10.47 | Haukkari | /etc/login.access had something funky. |
| 07:11.02 | afabian | NoboruKun, one thing about free software is that in addition to picking technology, you're picking a community. On average, the Debian community has a clue, which is a really great asset. Try comparing the Debian mailing list to the Ubuntu mailing list, for instance. ;) |
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| 07:11.32 | NoboruKun | i dont like Ubuntu |
| 07:11.36 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You may be taking the wrong approach. Why are you creating unix accounts for users that don't login? |
| 07:11.37 | jm_ | login.access is not used by PAM modules |
| 07:11.43 | NoboruKun | i like the original flavor of debian release |
| 07:11.52 | Whistleboy | anyone know why KDE screensavers don't work? xscreensaver runs. |
| 07:12.12 | dos000 | what do you normally do to get me.yourdomainname.com point at your static ip from the isp ? the domain registrar i use does not have a nice web interface |
| 07:12.21 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Another alternative is to put !! at the front of /etc/shadow for those accounts not allowed to login.) |
| 07:12.22 | NoboruKun | afabian, by the way, if you are gonna do web-hosting service,would you install debian on your server ? |
| 07:12.25 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, we have a big network at school, which uses NIS and LDAP... |
| 07:12.36 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and it's kinda nice for all the students have accounts and mail addresses... =) |
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| 07:12.44 | Haukkari | karlpinc: but they shouldn't be able to log on some specific machines |
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| 07:12.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: (Sorry, the !! goes in the hashed password field) |
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| 07:13.36 | gpm | how do i search for a package by looking for packages that have a certain filename? |
| 07:13.42 | kino | why does debian have all services enabled by default.. freakin stupid |
| 07:13.43 | gpm | (without pdo) |
| 07:13.52 | liable | gpm: apt-file |
| 07:13.52 | dos000 | gpm, apt-file |
| 07:14.06 | gpm | apt-file search <filename>? |
| 07:14.08 | karlpinc | Haukkari: what I did is add a ldap attribute and then modify the ldap search string in whatever config file drives the (allow ldap to login). |
| 07:14.53 | karlpinc | Haukkari: NIS on the other hand is a big pain. |
| 07:14.58 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, the people who I want to have access are in a specific group... |
| 07:15.07 | Haukkari | karlpinc: and I think this should be relatively easy with PAM |
| 07:15.13 | dos000 | you can use apt-cache as well and do "apt-cache search -n" |
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| 07:15.49 | karlpinc | Haukkari: There's some filter that drives nsswitch.... maybe. It's one of those ldap.conf files. Sorry I can't be more help. |
| 07:16.11 | afabian | NoboruKun, depends on what you mean. If I were purchasing a dedicated server, I'd probably use whatever they recommend, because it's what they have the most experience dealing with when necessary. If it were just me and a machine, with no other considerations, sure. Debian's stable distribution is well tested, has a nice, long lifespan, etc. |
| 07:16.35 | karlpinc | Haukkari: You can put the filter in pam for sure. But there's a generic place for one too. |
| 07:17.00 | Haukkari | karlpinc: well, anything that works would be nice |
| 07:17.28 | NoboruKun | afabian, i see. |
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| 07:18.16 | karlpinc | So, where can I go to get more help on LVM2? I already wrote to linux-lvm@redhat.com and debian-user@lists.debian.org, and nobody here seems to be able to help. |
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| 07:19.48 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Lordy, I happen to know that you can also fake it by authenticating with radius and having a ldap filter in the radius server. (!) |
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| 07:19.59 | tuora | I cannot retieve for viewing 'mime encapsulated Web archive' files which i have saved from online. what can i do? |
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| 07:20.10 | Haukkari | karlpinc: /etc/security/access.conf |
| 07:20.13 | Haukkari | karlpinc: that's it |
| 07:20.22 | jm_ | which is documented in PAM docs |
| 07:20.32 | jm_ | then there's PAM require module written by some people |
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| 07:21.57 | karlpinc | tuora: Don't know what your problem is but I've used mimedecode before to get to mime encoded stuff. |
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| 07:22.17 | karlpinc | Haukkari: Yay! That sure sounds like the right way to do it. |
| 07:22.20 | sses | night all |
| 07:22.39 | Haukkari | karlpinc: yeah. Thanks for your help. =) |
| 07:22.51 | kino | how do you specify options for a source build? |
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| 07:23.01 | SexyKen | Hey guys - I'm tired of entering passwords everytime I want to connect to an SSH server -- what's the best method of authentication otherwise? |
| 07:23.09 | karlpinc | (Haukkari: Good thing you didn't listen to me!)a |
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| 07:23.43 | Haukkari | karlpinc: :D |
| 07:23.55 | tuora | karlpinc: is mimedecode a debian package? |
| 07:24.01 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-agent! |
| 07:24.03 | afabian | SexyKen, key-based authentication. man ssh ssh-agent ssh ssh-keygen |
| 07:24.05 | karlpinc | tuora: yes |
| 07:24.36 | kino | SexyKen: ssh-add |
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| 07:25.01 | muttix | i dont see any problems with sarge and this mainbard --> http://www.asrock.com/product/P4VM800.htm - maybe im wrong ? |
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| 07:25.30 | litage | is H323 or SIP more NAT- and network-friendly? |
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| 07:25.42 | Coke | muttix: the page you are referring to does not mention sarge at all. |
| 07:26.03 | kino | I want to build rxvt with pixmap support :( how?? |
| 07:26.19 | Coke | kino: download rxvt and read the INSTALL file |
| 07:26.24 | muttix | Coke, i know !..hehe... but i need to make 4.PC for some customer and want to use sarge |
| 07:26.57 | kino | Coke: is there a way to do this with debian? |
| 07:27.24 | karlpinc | One more question before I go. Is there anyplace out there on the net with gigabytes of randomness available for download? |
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| 07:27.39 | afabian | litage, SIP was more or less made because of the NAT problems with H323. |
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| 07:27.55 | Coke | muttix: why did you suggest that you could see, or not see, a problem by reading that page? |
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| 07:28.01 | rixth | I accidenally formatted some very important files, what can I use to recover them? |
| 07:28.10 | debboy | hi all. if i have a server at www.myguy.com what should be in /etc/hostname ? |
| 07:28.25 | muttix | Coke, sorry dude - misunderstanding |
| 07:28.27 | karlpinc | litage: AIX2 is very NAT/network friendly. However, it only works with asterisk so you need somebody to gateway to the PSTN. |
| 07:28.47 | Coke | kino: the sources are available via deb-src, I do not know if those sources contains support for pixmaps or if a patch is required. |
| 07:28.58 | afabian | karlpinc, if it's posted for download, it's lost most of it's quality as a source of randomness for most purposes, has it not? |
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| 07:29.24 | kino | should be builtin, but how do I build it with pixmap.. does debian pkg system provide build options |
| 07:29.28 | xchg | litage: SIP |
| 07:29.37 | karlpinc | afabian: Sure, but maybe somebody's got a cosmic ray detector running constantly... or something. |
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| 07:29.59 | xchg | liable: forget about H323. Several years ago i runned pure h323 voip network. It was a real headache to bypass client NATs |
| 07:30.14 | liable | ok.. |
| 07:30.17 | xchg | xchg: now we're on SIP, it works more or less |
| 07:30.22 | karlpinc | afabian: Trust is another matter. But I don't care all that much at the moment, it's kinda practice. |
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| 07:31.03 | benjamindees | rixth, you formatted a partition or deleted files? what filesystem type? |
| 07:31.38 | jm_ | muttix: as long as its SATA controller is supported |
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| 07:32.00 | liable | xchg: err, misfire? |
| 07:32.01 | muttix | jm_ im worried about the unichrome vga |
| 07:32.01 | jm_ | kino: you can modify it in debian/rules |
| 07:32.11 | xchg | liable: yah :-) |
| 07:32.22 | liable | :) |
| 07:32.27 | TBBle | Goodness, evolution takes time to build. I swear I just caught it doing the same thing for the fourth time. |
| 07:32.29 | xchg | liable: also there're several issues with IAX, it works also, but far not so used as SIP |
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| 07:32.42 | Coke | TBBle: bloatware is like that |
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| 07:32.57 | liable | xchg: again! |
| 07:33.18 | xchg | liable: damn autocompletion, going to switch it off. sorry pal :-) |
| 07:33.28 | liable | xchg: no problem :) |
| 07:33.56 | liable | xchg: we all have bad nick tab days :) |
| 07:34.21 | jm_ | muttix: http://unichrome.sourceforge.net/ |
| 07:34.28 | Beleys | Poy |
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| 07:34.56 | xchg | liable: sure. in several cases it's faster to type the nick than switching them with tab :-) |
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| 07:35.20 | muttix | jm_ that means kernel compile right ?... i need to deliver 4.PC's friday morning :-/ |
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| 07:36.42 | Coke | muttix: looks to me like they provide X drivers, not kernel |
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| 07:37.30 | litage | thanks afabian, karlpinc and xchg |
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| 07:38.10 | xchg | litage: feel free to ask about iptel (rather msg), i'm working with it for 5 years now |
| 07:38.15 | dimir | Morning! |
| 07:38.23 | benjamindees | I'd appreciate any comments anyone might have on this: http://www.deesconsulting.com/howtos/wine-kprinter.txt |
| 07:38.25 | Coke | xchg: really, me too? |
| 07:38.25 | jm_ | muttix: no, and it turns out XFree86 in Sarge does have via_drv, but it's questionable if it's new enough to handle your version |
| 07:38.52 | muttix | damn...hmm - what to do :-/ |
| 07:38.56 | jm_ | muttix: it might be oainful to build this as it requires X sources ;) |
| 07:38.57 | muttix | thanks guys ! |
| 07:39.14 | Coke | xchg: do you know of a good, free ip stack that is near complete or complete? |
| 07:39.28 | xchg | Coke: great! however, i decided to leave this business, too unreliable to make serious competition to PSTN right now, due nature of internet IMHO |
| 07:39.45 | xchg | Coke: ip stack or voip stack ? |
| 07:39.48 | Coke | xchg: it's rather popular here. |
| 07:40.06 | Coke | xchg: sip stack, sorry. :) |
| 07:40.17 | Coke | xchg: SIP, not IP. :) my mistake. |
| 07:40.28 | xchg | Coke: i'm using SER here, quite hard to learn it syntax, but very fast and reliable at my oppinion |
| 07:40.34 | xchg | Coke: absolutely freeware |
| 07:40.35 | Coke | xchg: free? |
| 07:40.40 | xchg | Coke: GPL |
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| 07:41.13 | Coke | xchg: I'll look at it, thanks! |
| 07:41.36 | xchg | Coke: you're welcome |
| 07:41.47 | kino | jm_: ahh debian/rules, thanks |
| 07:41.49 | xchg | Coke: also there's a so-so affordable SIP implementation in Asterisk |
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| 07:42.02 | kino | turns out rxvt comes with a separate binary rxvt-xpm! you can use for background |
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| 07:50.08 | xchg | heh, when new message arrives in xchat, the button in taskbar of XFCE is starting to blink. Like in the windows. (imho disgusting) :-) Is there any relationship between blinking and GNOME/HIG ? |
| 07:50.16 | xchg | going to switch this feature off somehow |
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| 07:51.16 | gpm | any reason the xdm in sid has no init.d script? |
| 07:51.59 | Gnea | gpm: it's not installed |
| 07:52.39 | Coke | xchg: I need it to be free (as in freedom) since the plan is to build a SIP-gateway for Jabber. |
| 07:52.42 | gpm | Gnea: it is though |
| 07:52.56 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg -L xdm |
| 07:53.03 | lindenle | see if it is in the package |
| 07:53.31 | lindenle | dpkg -L xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.31 | dpkg | No packages found matching xdm | grep init.d |
| 07:53.33 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, there's a bunch of files...none of them in /etc/init.d |
| 07:53.50 | xchg | Coke: i think you should take a look at http://www.voip-info.org/wiki/ |
| 07:54.07 | lindenle | gpm : you could download and extract the contents to make sure |
| 07:54.08 | Coke | xchg: did you know that SER includes a XMPP interface? :) |
| 07:54.14 | xchg | Coke: since there're a several *stack* implementation. SER is rather complete gateway/proxy product |
| 07:54.19 | lindenle | gpm: did you check the bug reports for xdm |
| 07:54.28 | xchg | Coke: nope |
| 07:54.35 | xchg | Coke: i mean it doesn't |
| 07:55.07 | xchg | Coke: SER is IPTEL carrier-grade product, dedicated to deal with signalling proxing |
| 07:55.21 | lindenle | gpm: apt-get -d --reinstall install xdm |
| 07:55.28 | xchg | xchg: but you always can write a xmpp module for it :-) |
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| 07:55.32 | lindenle | gpm: dpkg --extract xdm*.deb |
| 07:55.42 | gpm | lindenle: bts doesn't have anything. |
| 07:55.48 | gpm | lindenle: i'll try out the manual install |
| 07:55.56 | Coke | xchg: it does provide a Jabber gateway though. |
| 07:55.57 | mo1991 | can anyone tell me a program that can make a mutliple page tiff out of a mutlipage document being scanned. |
| 07:56.09 | khermans | Anyone know the generic arguments to ./configure to build a static binary with all libs inclusive? I need this for a shared web server |
| 07:56.11 | Coke | xchg: http://www.iptel.org/ser/doc/jabgw/xjab-manual.html |
| 07:56.18 | lindenle | gpm: it id probably broken, seems like you know what you are doing |
| 07:56.20 | mo1991 | To make a tif file that opens like a FAX doc |
| 07:56.35 | lindenle | gpm: i can add it to my sarge and see to, but most likely you need to file a bug report |
| 07:56.45 | gpm | lindenle: i appreciate your faith. :-P |
| 07:57.00 | xchg | Coke: hm, then it's alredy wrote... didn't knew even |
| 07:57.01 | lindenle | ;) |
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| 07:57.45 | lindenle | gpm: what version do you have installed |
| 07:57.58 | lindenle | the init.d part is listed in etch |
| 07:58.02 | lindenle | looking at sarge now |
| 07:58.08 | fireba11 | hi .. i got a server here that all of a sudden lost its network .. ifconfig gives no output at all .. changed NIC, no change, put HD into another bnox, no change .. any clues ? |
| 07:58.11 | gpm | 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 |
| 07:58.16 | Coke | xchg: that sucks. what am I suposed to do now when my job contract ends? :) |
| 07:58.40 | Coke | xchg: btw, iptel.org is pretty awesome. |
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| 07:59.06 | Coke | xchg: do you know why SER is not available in Debian? |
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| 07:59.30 | lindenle | gpm: 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 ?? I found 4.3.0.dsfg.1-14sarge1 |
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| 07:59.41 | lindenle | gpm: do you have some external source? |
| 07:59.43 | gpm | lindenle: i'm on xorg, you're on xfree86 |
| 07:59.47 | gpm | lindenle: sid has xorg |
| 07:59.52 | gpm | lindenle: made the switch |
| 07:59.59 | xchg | Coke: have no idea. btw it WAS available |
| 08:00.09 | lindenle | gpm: right of cource, lappy is on etch xorg |
| 08:00.16 | lindenle | but server is on sarge xfree |
| 08:00.21 | lindenle | gpm: dumb me |
| 08:00.32 | xchg | Coke: in any way it's better to compile you own ser, on my memory ser shipped with debian leaked some modules and was pretty old |
| 08:00.58 | lindenle | gpm: I had to onlappy but server has no need |
| 08:01.10 | lindenle | gpm: ati->xorg nvidia->rocks |
| 08:01.13 | lindenle | :) |
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| 08:01.38 | gpm | i ought to use etch |
| 08:01.48 | gpm | but i like reporting bugs too i guess |
| 08:01.49 | lindenle | yeah...maybe |
| 08:01.55 | lindenle | some things are a bit flaky |
| 08:01.56 | Coke | xchg: I can't find it at all. Would be nice to have it setup nicely by Debian though. |
| 08:02.05 | lindenle | gpm: :) i hear that |
| 08:02.08 | xchg | Coke: what to start after contract end? i'll give you an advice :-) Ser is very complicated ware. I'm thought on getting it more user-friendly. Writing frontend for configuring it for example. Take a look at ser.cfg to understand what i'm speaking about. It's more similar to C source code that to config file |
| 08:02.36 | xchg | Coke: so why don't you write something to make a SER users life more easy :-) |
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| 08:03.18 | Coke | xchg: C-code isn't a problem for me. |
| 08:03.20 | fireba11 | anyone got a clue about my network problem ? it's kinda urgent |
| 08:03.30 | Coke | xchg: I don't need/want to make their lives easier? |
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| 08:04.16 | Coke | xchg: what I really want is VoIP support for Jabber clients. And I don't want to use Google's Jingle or some other BS, I want the real deal = SIP. |
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| 08:04.23 | xchg | Coke: i mean it just looks like it, the hidden logic acts differently. If you company will like ser and will pay you to writing config frontend then why not? But in anyway it's none of my business, i just gave an advice |
| 08:04.26 | dbi | fireba11: ask your question. if anyone can help (s)he will |
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| 08:04.35 | lindenle | fireball: does lspci still show card? Is module loaded |
| 08:05.02 | dbi | fireba11: sorry, you already asked it. |
| 08:05.12 | Coke | xchg: "my company" is a university and my contract ends with them in february. this is my own, private project, something to do while being unemployed. |
| 08:05.38 | lindenle | gpm: i think it is a bug..... |
| 08:05.41 | xchg | Coke: got it |
| 08:06.25 | fooz | there any good programmer's editors that emacs users can cope with? |
| 08:06.29 | Coke | xchg: the configuration looks a lot like exim or postgresql-configs since they describe some logic too. |
| 08:06.37 | Coke | fooz: "cope"? |
| 08:06.40 | fooz | yeah |
| 08:06.41 | lindenle | gpm: that looks like the newest xdm anyway, i think |
| 08:06.57 | fooz | like, an emacs user probably can't cope with Microsoft Visual Studio or any clones of that |
| 08:07.17 | Coke | fooz: coop [1913 Websters] To form a cope or arch; to bend or arch; to bow |
| 08:07.28 | Coke | fooz: emacs does not bend for anyone. :) |
| 08:07.32 | xchg | Coke: it's a very robust approach to configuring, since you can describe any SIP logic in config. Even if you want to deploy a non standart approaches, like H323/SIP conversion via external stuff, billing, or NAT traversal |
| 08:07.35 | fireba11 | can someone please tell me what is wrong if network is gone .. ifconfig doesn#t even output loopback device |
| 08:07.39 | gpm | lindenle: yeah, i'm reporting right now |
| 08:07.44 | gpm | making sure i'm not reporting a dupe |
| 08:07.46 | xchg | Coke: but the most users stuck on it :-) |
| 08:07.59 | lindenle | gpm: nice work |
| 08:08.08 | Coke | fooz: the best choice for an emacs user is most likely emacs. if they must I guess they could probably use vim. |
| 08:08.22 | lindenle | fireball: did you change kernel? |
| 08:08.31 | Jakal | fireba11: ifup eth0 try :p (if your using NIC) |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | lindenle: no, no change at all |
| 08:08.58 | fireba11 | Jakal: treid that .. gives an error |
| 08:08.58 | lindenle | fireball: or edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:08.59 | Jakal | fireba11: what error? |
| 08:09.01 | lindenle | fireball: which is? |
| 08:09.01 | fireba11 | lindenle: interfaces is looking fine |
| 08:09.06 | Coke | fooz: I'm not a hardcore emacs user, I have vim as my second choice if emacs is unavailable for some inexplicable reason. |
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| 08:09.31 | Coke | xchg: I probably will too, but not because the syntax is tough, but because I don't understand SIP that much. I'm hoping the tutorial will change that. |
| 08:09.37 | Coke | xchg: did you work for iptel org? |
| 08:10.05 | xchg | Coke: no, i have the own company in Europe. I'm just using their product |
| 08:10.29 | xchg | Coke: there're several tutorials about SIP on the net, you can google for them |
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| 08:10.38 | lindenle | fireball: can you ifup lo? |
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| 08:10.43 | xchg | Coke: "sip ser example" on my memory |
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| 08:11.29 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:11.35 | liable | any opions on dvd-backup? |
| 08:11.47 | mo1991 | what is the command line command to switch workstations (meaning screens on 1 x session - not ctrF8) etc |
| 08:11.54 | jm_ | liable: I use dobackup.pl and growisofs :) |
| 08:11.55 | Coke | xchg: no problem, iptel provides tutorials as well. |
| 08:12.07 | jm_ | mo1991: ehh? |
| 08:12.14 | mo1991 | meaning when I have a 4 desktop switcher in my menu bar |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | jm_ does this make sense |
| 08:12.22 | mo1991 | ? |
| 08:12.28 | jm_ | mo1991: not to me, sorry |
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| 08:12.33 | lindenle | mo1991: depends on window manager |
| 08:12.36 | Blackhold | hi! |
| 08:12.37 | mo1991 | i use gnome |
| 08:12.55 | lindenle | mo1991: i use kde and it is set to ctrl-alt-left |
| 08:13.00 | lindenle | or ctrl-alt-right |
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| 08:13.02 | mo1991 | gnome lets you have a workspace switcher on your start menu that you can have a fresh desktop background |
| 08:13.06 | jm_ | ahh you want to switch to a different GNOME desktop with comamnd line tool? |
| 08:13.09 | Coke | xchg: a lot of people are switching to SIP and voip here in Sweden because it's very cheap to build infrastructure for it compared to the other, trademark technologies. |
| 08:13.19 | lindenle | i think gnome might use alt-F1 alt-F2 etc |
| 08:13.31 | lindenle | oh i missed command line sorry |
| 08:13.39 | mo1991 | lindenle - it's the same for gnome - I'm looking to add it to a script though |
| 08:13.44 | liable | jm_: whats that perl script in? |
| 08:13.45 | mo1991 | need a command line command to do it |
| 08:13.54 | lindenle | right :( sorry |
| 08:14.00 | mo1991 | anyone know |
| 08:14.09 | jm_ | liable: not in Debian, I have it in /usr/local (you can find it on freshmeat) - I guess it deserves to be packaged |
| 08:14.12 | Blackhold | I have configured the xwindow through editing the XF86config, I've putted 1024x768, but now the x are descentred, I couldn't configure the screen to center the image, the VGA that I have is a VGA P4M800, a integrated VGA into a asrock motherboard, P4VM8 (I think so) |
| 08:14.19 | jm_ | mo1991: you can always do it with tools like xnee |
| 08:14.19 | liable | jm_: ok, cheers |
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| 08:15.03 | xchg | Coke: unfotently due nature of the internet voip communications aren't reliable to comparsion with POTS, and it's hardly possible to describe to angry customer that his voip box isn't working becose his damned ISP messed something up, or there's loop-routing somewhere at (for example) TISCALI backbone, and it's not our fscked fault :-) |
| 08:15.03 | jm_ | xnee or xte from xautomation package |
| 08:15.32 | Kimy | Hi, does anyone know how could i install tcl on debian? i tryed to compile an eggdrop and it says that tcl isn't installed.. |
| 08:15.45 | jm_ | with aptitude or apt-get ... |
| 08:15.57 | jm_ | so yes, someone knows |
| 08:15.58 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl |
| 08:15.59 | Coke | xchg: but I agree with you that SER needs another configuration interface. I think it would have been better of using a Python or Scheme-like syntax. |
| 08:16.18 | xchg | Coke: i've thought about M4 macro processing |
| 08:16.21 | Zugschlus | deadcat: what should be fixed in exim? |
| 08:16.21 | Kimy | thankiu lindenle :) |
| 08:16.33 | lindenle | apt-get install tcl8.0-dev i guess |
| 08:16.33 | Coke | xchg: "nature of internet" is fine. internet for me is as reliable as the old tele net. |
| 08:16.33 | diana | Kimy: As root type "apt-get install tclx8.4 |
| 08:16.40 | lindenle | if you want to compile something |
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| 08:16.43 | jm_ | he needs TCL devel packages |
| 08:16.50 | jm_ | and eggdrop is packaged too |
| 08:16.56 | lindenle | Jim_: right |
| 08:16.57 | Coke | xchg: I think going with an s-expression syntax would be most beneficial |
| 08:17.09 | Zugschlus | dos000: use some combination of exigrep or exipick with xargs exim -Mrm |
| 08:17.15 | Kimy | thankiu diana :) |
| 08:17.17 | Kimy | it worked |
| 08:17.20 | xchg | Coke: since, let's agree with it, you can do virtually anything with it config, but there're more or less standart features that ITSP expects, like less-cost-routing, voicemail, etc.. and they can be deployed as simple macros the administrator just choice from |
| 08:17.26 | fireba11 | lindenle: sorry, can't reproduce right now since i took out the disk .. thought there might be a quick fix to this |
| 08:17.33 | Zugschlus | buu: ext3 |
| 08:17.34 | diana | Kimy: jm_ is right..you also need developer packages. |
| 08:17.36 | Blackhold | how I configure the vga?! |
| 08:17.39 | diana | Since you are compiling the eggdrop. |
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| 08:17.59 | Kimy | diana that means? Hmm i'm kind of noob in linux :/ |
| 08:17.59 | diana | Kimy: apt-get install tcl8.4-dev |
| 08:18.05 | lindenle | fireball: so working again? |
| 08:18.18 | Kimy | works too :) |
| 08:18.21 | Zugschlus | Gnea: grml can do lvm2 and is much better than knoppix anyway |
| 08:18.29 | fireba11 | lindenle: no .. took out the HD to rescue the data since it's important |
| 08:18.34 | diana | Kimy: now compile your eggdrop. |
| 08:18.40 | lindenle | fireball: claro |
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| 08:18.59 | Coke | xchg: s-expressions! :) |
| 08:18.59 | diana | Kimy: Instead of compiling your eggdrop...you could just "apt-get install eggdrop" and you are done. |
| 08:19.02 | xchg | Coke: so there's no need to get a 500+ page SER manual to understand the working logic and deploy a voicmail system (took 2 days for me), user just can choice a needed macro and recompile the config file :-) |
| 08:19.12 | Kimy | hmm :) |
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| 08:19.16 | Kimy | diana thx |
| 08:19.17 | lindenle | fireball: this is very curious, i would like to see what lspci gives, maybe your oci bus is acting up...but all conjectures |
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| 08:19.43 | bunga | hi where some site to get last repositories for woody 3.0 |
| 08:19.52 | Coke | xchg: he, very powerful. |
| 08:19.56 | Blackhold | please some help |
| 08:19.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: any full Debian mirror has it |
| 08:19.58 | sep | bunga, in all mirrors |
| 08:20.08 | lindenle | bunga: old-stable or woody |
| 08:20.08 | diana | dondelelcaro: What mode is J? |
| 08:20.14 | dondelelcaro | !tell diana -about fn modes |
| 08:20.14 | diana | What is this weird ircd |
| 08:20.17 | jm_ | bunga: you can find old releases on archive.debian.org |
| 08:20.22 | bunga | dondelelcaro the site pls |
| 08:20.29 | xchg | Coke: btw, it rather looks like sendmail.cf :-) and acts like it too :-) |
| 08:20.31 | bunga | woody 3.0 |
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| 08:20.42 | dondelelcaro | bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ |
| 08:20.53 | crashbg[work] | gyis, i have sarge and mysql4, and mysql4 doesn't support cp1251??? how can i add support for this charset |
| 08:21.05 | bunga | btw hos to see my version |
| 08:21.07 | bunga | how |
| 08:21.20 | jm_ | bunga: /msg dpkg debian version |
| 08:21.22 | dondelelcaro | bunga: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.31 | Guerin | !what am I running? |
| 08:21.31 | dpkg | What? You don't know what branch of what OS you're running? To find out, compare the output of dpkg -l libc6; cat /etc/debian_version; apt-cache policy; with known versions, such as are to be found on packages.debian.org. |
| 08:21.38 | bunga | n# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:21.40 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:21.47 | xchg | crashbg[work]: http://www.opennet.ru/base/dev/rus_locale_mysql.txt.html AFAIK |
| 08:21.51 | bunga | that how to get the latest repos for that |
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| 08:22.03 | Guerin | bunga: /msg dpkg woody->sarge |
| 08:22.20 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/woody/ <== add this to /etc/apt/sources.list ?? |
| 08:22.56 | dondelelcaro | bunga: no. What exactly are you trying to do? |
| 08:23.16 | bunga | i wanna upgrade my server to latest release of woody |
| 08:23.33 | bunga | mean all package |
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| 08:23.43 | diana | bunga: You are using potato? |
| 08:23.50 | dondelelcaro | bunga: so run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;. |
| 08:24.00 | bunga | yeah dondelelcaro like that |
| 08:24.13 | sep | bunga, read the woody release notes |
| 08:24.15 | bunga | but first i wanna get sources.list first |
| 08:24.24 | sep | !tell bunga about potato->woody |
| 08:24.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: you should already have your sources.list set right. If not, run apt-setup, and make sure it's set to woody, not stable. |
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| 08:25.38 | nrdb | How do you rename a Flash drive under KDE? |
| 08:25.42 | Coke | xchg: I'm telling you, build a config using already existing Scheme implementations, or write your own. S-expressions are the simplest to do very concrete operating. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-expression |
| 08:25.54 | Coke | xchg: Or, when I'm good enough with SER I will do it! ;) |
| 08:25.55 | bunga | <dondelelcaro> bunga: you should already have your <== i'm del last night |
| 08:25.59 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.01 | bunga | bad |
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| 08:26.18 | xchg | Coke: i don't know much about s-expr, will check it now |
| 08:26.27 | xchg | Coke: anyway, have a lot of time today :-) |
| 08:26.32 | dondelelcaro | bunga: then run apt-setup to configur eit. |
| 08:26.50 | diana | bunga: What version of debian are you using...what do you see when you cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:26.58 | Gnea | oh wow. |
| 08:27.02 | dondelelcaro | diana: see scrollback; we did that one already... |
| 08:27.12 | Gnea | the latest E17 made several jumps |
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| 08:27.29 | lindenle | diana: I think he is using some bunk packages from back ports.org or something |
| 08:27.36 | Gnea | nearly all configuration options are now point and click |
| 08:27.37 | blueSmurf | hi |
| 08:27.38 | xchg | Coke: argh, it say these're Lisp-natured |
| 08:27.41 | bunga | i'm use this version |
| 08:27.42 | lindenle | diana: maybe the sources.list file should be checked |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:27.42 | bunga | 3.0-bunk-kernel26 |
| 08:27.45 | xchg | hi blueSmurf |
| 08:27.58 | diana | !tell bunga about woody->sarge |
| 08:28.04 | jm_ | lindenle: Bunk provided packages required to run 2.6 kernel on Woody, there were only a few |
| 08:28.23 | diana | bunga: If you hosed your sources.list type "apt-setup" like dondelelcaro told you to. |
| 08:28.27 | lindenle | jm_: oh sorry |
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| 08:29.33 | bunga | # apt-setup |
| 08:29.34 | bunga | bash: apt-setup: command not found |
| 08:29.49 | rAz_ | ouch |
| 08:29.50 | jm_ | !tell bunga -about installit |
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| 08:30.40 | diana | bunga: What country do you live in? |
| 08:30.50 | diana | bunga: Or what country does your server live in? |
| 08:30.51 | bunga | uk |
| 08:30.59 | bunga | switzerland |
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| 08:31.05 | Marsian | What needs to be installed for the gdm to boot? |
| 08:31.07 | blueSmurf | ukrainia ? |
| 08:31.13 | bunga | nono |
| 08:31.14 | bunga | switzerland |
| 08:31.15 | Marsian | I can't seem to get it working on my laptop. |
| 08:31.29 | jm_ | Marsian: aptitude/apt-get will install all of its dependencies ... |
| 08:31.34 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: isnt Ukrainia a city in russia? |
| 08:31.42 | Marsian | jm_: Well, it won't boot. |
| 08:31.43 | bbmj | i had upgraded to the 2.6 kernel about 6 months ago. i resently went back to the 2.4 kernel. when upgrading to 2.6 i had to remove some libs and install others to get the cdburner to work but have forgotten which ones. can someone tell me a way or method to use in order to get things working again? |
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| 08:31.52 | jm_ | Marsian: I don't believe that |
| 08:31.57 | blueSmurf | raf256, beats me, I flunked geography :) |
| 08:31.59 | Marsian | jm_: Just comes up with a blank screen. |
| 08:32.04 | Marsian | Not sure what the problem is. |
| 08:32.09 | jm_ | bbmj: the same method will work with both kernels |
| 08:32.10 | bunga | diana ? |
| 08:32.14 | raf256[laptop] | blueSmurf: anyway, russian, iraq, ukraina - same thing, lets bomb them! |
| 08:32.26 | jm_ | Marsian: right, so it boots but screen is not OK - does kernel still work at that point? |
| 08:32.47 | Marsian | No. |
| 08:32.53 | bbmj | jm_, are you saying it should work either way? |
| 08:32.56 | jm_ | how do you know? |
| 08:32.58 | jm_ | bbmj: right |
| 08:33.02 | Marsian | Or at least I can't switch to any of the virtual terminals. |
| 08:33.03 | blueSmurf | Marsian, can you run it manually ? (with /etc/init.d/gdm restart) |
| 08:33.13 | jm_ | that doesn't mean the kernel is not running |
| 08:33.18 | Marsian | blueSmurf: Tried that, but it goes to the blank screen. |
| 08:33.36 | blueSmurf | Marsian, and X is working , yes ? |
| 08:34.09 | Marsian | Does x.org use the "startx" command? |
| 08:34.30 | xchg | Marsian: it does |
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| 08:34.53 | Marsian | Well, for some reason I don't have that command. |
| 08:35.03 | Marsian | Does that mean I should re-install x.org? |
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| 08:35.11 | tapas | hi |
| 08:35.24 | Marsian | I installed xserver-xorg (and its dependencies). |
| 08:35.40 | tapas | i wonder how i can enable the option APT::Force-LoopBreak |
| 08:35.53 | raf256 | echo "Suck my cock" | festival --tts |
| 08:36.02 | raf256 | omg! |
| 08:36.06 | raf256 | wrong channel |
| 08:36.09 | jm_ | install x-window-system-core or without -core to get more of it |
| 08:36.13 | tapas | ;) |
| 08:36.14 | raf256 | !smite me |
| 08:36.21 | Marsian | jm_: I did that too |
| 08:36.34 | Marsian | Should I just try re-installing it? |
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| 08:36.47 | tapas | i installed from an olde testing cd and now i try to upgrade to unstable |
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| 08:37.08 | bbmj | jm_, here is the main portion of debug /usr/bin/cdrecord: No such file or directory. Cannot open '/dev/sg*'. Cannot open SCSI driver. but charater devices /dev/sg0 through 16 are present. |
| 08:37.12 | Marsian | Oh yeah, I am using unstable if that matters. |
| 08:37.29 | tapas | which tells me about the need to remove the essential package e2fsprogs |
| 08:37.33 | bbmj | jm_, yes scsi emulation is turned on. |
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| 08:37.41 | jm_ | bbmj: don't use it |
| 08:37.48 | tapas | so i wonder how i can make apt-get use tat optoin |
| 08:37.52 | i2501 | i cant browse to http://192.168.11.1/ to forward some ports....i can do this in winxp...how to do it in debian? |
| 08:37.55 | bbmj | jm_, on the 2.4? |
| 08:38.02 | tapas | cause the manpage doesn't tell me anything about it |
| 08:38.07 | jm_ | bbmj: right, it works without it on 2.4 too |
| 08:38.07 | ootput | not atapi |
| 08:38.11 | tarzeau | GOD FUCKINNG DAMN USB BULLSHIT |
| 08:38.15 | jm_ | Marsian: install xbase-clients |
| 08:38.18 | tarzeau | what's this? usb.c: USB device not accepting new address=8 (error=-71) |
| 08:38.20 | Coke | xchg: you can ignore that Lisp too utilizes the efficiency of S-Expressions. the really neet thing is that it's very easy to parse and generate working (and well-written) s-expressions. it is also very easy to write editor indentation support for it. basically, anything that requires analyzing is easy with them. |
| 08:38.23 | ootput | how are you, tarzeau? |
| 08:38.35 | Marsian | jm_: Thank you I will try that. |
| 08:38.41 | Marsian | be back in a few if it doesn't work |
| 08:38.42 | bbmj | thought it was required... this is exactly how it used to work but i'll try it. |
| 08:38.46 | jm_ | bbmj: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdX or cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus |
| 08:38.49 | tarzeau | ootput: good apart from users wawnting to use crap floppy drives, shit usb, and shit zip drivers |
| 08:38.52 | jm_ | no it's not required |
| 08:38.58 | tarzeau | ootput: and fucking cd-rom drives, and scanners |
| 08:39.09 | tarzeau | ootput: they fucking have 100mbit internet and they want to use floppy! |
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| 08:39.34 | ootput | assholes probably want to boot from floppy |
| 08:39.35 | xchg | Coke: in fact, on my oppinion it would be the best to make ser packages for debian utilizing it package configuration ability. |
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| 08:39.57 | Guerin | floppy drives should be forcibly removed from all machines |
| 08:40.09 | mhall | Guerin: ? |
| 08:40.11 | xchg | Coke: just like with X, debconf is asking questions and generates xorg.conf(XF86Config) at end |
| 08:40.13 | tarzeau | ootput: no they just want to make backups, albeit WE make already backups! |
| 08:40.26 | jm_ | heh some of the machines we're buying here come without floppies these days, of course the other components in them are crap too |
| 08:40.30 | mhall | tarzeau: don't get me started on backups |
| 08:40.31 | ootput | and yes, they should |
| 08:40.33 | tarzeau | ootput: booting is disabled for all media, and if they do, there's someone at the machine telling them to not do that |
| 08:40.37 | jm_ | without floppy drives I mean |
| 08:40.38 | fireba11 | Guerin please force microsoft to accept anything else then floppy for storage driver at install then ^^ |
| 08:40.48 | jm_ | fireba11: CD ... |
| 08:40.59 | ootput | fireba11: that F6 bullshit pisses me off to no end |
| 08:40.59 | mhall | tarzeau: my .edu fucked up and let their mail server get full, so they deleted our trash folders and our sent items older than 100 days without asking |
| 08:41.06 | Guerin | fireba11: you choose to use microsoft, it's your funeral |
| 08:41.24 | tarzeau | mhall: we never do things like that |
| 08:41.29 | tarzeau | mhall: which .edu? |
| 08:41.34 | fireba11 | Guerin: i have to .. for workstations at work at least |
| 08:41.35 | ootput | of course, there's always a slipstream+unattended, but how troublesome is that? |
| 08:41.37 | mhall | tarzeau: i sent them an extremely unhappy message explaining that i'd relied on their statements about their mail service and their backups to preserve some legally important stuff |
| 08:41.41 | Guerin | fireba11: sucks to be you. |
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| 08:42.07 | themusicgod1 | is it a bad thing that the new version of folding@home does not display on top? |
| 08:42.17 | mhall | tarzeau: if they don't restore it i'll have to bust a bureaucratic cap on their ass so bigg that they'll talk with their anal sphincters when i'm done |
| 08:42.19 | tarzeau | mhall: sounds like bad suckage |
| 08:42.22 | mhall | tarzeau: univ. of the pacific |
| 08:42.30 | tarzeau | go go go mhall! |
| 08:42.33 | fireba11 | Guerin: correct, since an important system died on me yesterday and i have to get it working again asap |
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| 08:43.12 | mhall | Guerin: my university will need a saint to resurrect them if they don't fix this |
| 08:43.23 | themusicgod1 | scratch that there it is |
| 08:43.31 | themusicgod1 | weiiird i could have sworn it wasn't there for a second |
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| 08:43.35 | Guerin | mhall: saints can't resurrect. |
| 08:43.41 | Coke | xchg: but that's the even higher level, sure, it's good. debconf could generate the s-expressions. but s-expressions need no syntax analisys, just lexical parsing. |
| 08:43.48 | Guerin | mhall: they can do a pretty good Last Rites though |
| 08:44.10 | Coke | xchg: nevermind. :) I have to do some work and then I'm going to read the slides from iptel.org |
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| 08:44.36 | mhall | Guerin: thought they had to perform one miracle to be a saint |
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| 08:45.09 | mhall | Coke: what about lisp, where you work with raw parse trees? |
| 08:45.11 | Guerin | mhall: yeah, but none have ever resurrected anyone |
| 08:45.17 | Guerin | i mean |
| 08:45.22 | mhall | Guerin: nor have they done any of the rest ;-) |
| 08:45.28 | Guerin | that's why jesus is like the #1 saint |
| 08:46.05 | ootput | ligara |
| 08:46.16 | mhall | well then if they screw me they'll be needing help from the most improbable of the improbable |
| 08:46.28 | mhall | good fucking luck i wish them |
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| 08:46.42 | mhall | they'll all be fcuked when i'm done |
| 08:46.49 | mhall | french connection will make millions |
| 08:46.52 | ootput | french connection? |
| 08:46.55 | ootput | brr |
| 08:47.04 | liable | cold? |
| 08:47.08 | ootput | rabbit |
| 08:48.17 | Coke | mhall: yeah, what about it? |
| 08:48.54 | Coke | mhall: the current configuration file uses an imperative paradigm, I suggested using an s-expression instead. |
| 08:48.54 | mhall | Coke: it was primarily a language troll |
| 08:49.07 | mhall | Coke: since i had no idea what you were talking about ;-) |
| 08:49.25 | mhall | configuration files are scary |
| 08:49.37 | Coke | mhall: aha. we're not really talking languages, just paradigms. it's so much easier and simpler to use s-expressions over imperative syntax. |
| 08:49.45 | mhall | i wish people took them half as seriously as data or code |
| 08:50.07 | mhall | to tell you the truth my impression of them is corrupted |
| 08:50.29 | mhall | by the fact that i haven't seen any that used some kind of theoretically reasonable programming paradigm at all |
| 08:50.47 | mhall | which is not to say such is not existant |
| 08:51.02 | mhall | merely that i wasn't conscious of it when i saw it or it's not around yet |
| 08:51.23 | caphuso | mhall: ~/.emacs |
| 08:51.26 | mhall | as far as i can tell the best sort of config file would use xml with obvious short tags |
| 08:51.33 | caphuso | you're insane |
| 08:51.35 | Coke | mhall: no. |
| 08:51.50 | Coke | mhall: XML is overly complicated to describe data structures and logic. |
| 08:51.53 | mhall | caphuso: that's been said and reiterated and i won't dispute it |
| 08:52.02 | mhall | Coke: i don't think so |
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| 08:52.10 | mhall | Coke: i think people overcomplicate it |
| 08:52.11 | caphuso | no config file should ever use xml, for it being stupid, useless, cumbersome and without any benefit at all |
| 08:52.28 | Coke | mhall: what you think is irrelevant, I _know_ that it takes more effort to both read and write XML than it does to read and write s-expressions or YAML. |
| 08:52.36 | mhall | not for me |
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| 08:52.43 | Coke | mhall: then you do not work as normal humans. |
| 08:53.16 | Coke | mhall: like caphuso says, there are no benefits of using XML over other types of expressions. |
| 08:53.44 | Coke | take a look at YAML |
| 08:53.56 | mhall | i think this is a canonical example of an issue with no good answer |
| 08:54.04 | zinx | OMG XML SOAP AJAX LOLZ |
| 08:54.13 | mhall | if there were one so far, we'd just be using it and not arguing about the different ones |
| 08:54.33 | Coke | mhall: until you, or anybody, provides me with a good explanation why XML is necesseary I will consider it a bad choice for configuration files. |
| 08:54.49 | mhall | but in any case i can't see how s-expressions are sufficient for representing everything a config file might need |
| 08:54.54 | zinx | i would like to note here, that reguardless of whether XML is good for configuration files, fontconfig's xml configuration file is entirely wrong :) |
| 08:54.55 | dondelelcaro | xml is just a reasonably standard method of creating machine parseable files; it's craptacular for human editable configuration files |
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| 08:55.15 | mhall | it seems like perhaps you will need more than just data in some kinds of file |
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| 08:55.32 | Coke | mhall: Then I don't think you understand how what they represent. |
| 08:55.33 | mhall | perhaps a better choice would be something like lua |
| 08:55.44 | zinx | ugh, 1-indexed languages |
| 08:56.09 | Coke | mhall: S-Expressions are not merely data, they also describe things like logic and presedence. |
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| 08:56.32 | mhall | Coke: what about if you need something like a closure, some kind of user defined action to take |
| 08:56.43 | mhall | it's not clear how an s expression would deal with that |
| 08:56.57 | mhall | it could reference some other data file perhaps |
| 08:57.08 | mhall | but then that file would need some more turing complete entity |
| 08:57.24 | mhall | such as what's provided today by shell scripts |
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| 08:57.34 | Guerin | sorry ... does anyone actually think XML is good for config files? |
| 08:57.37 | mhall | but i always thought shell script callbacks, etc. were a hack |
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| 08:57.52 | mhall | Guerin: i'm not sure it's the best thing but i think it could work |
| 08:57.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expression have nothing to do with a language being turing complete or not. |
| 08:58.02 | Guerin | i thought the only people who used it were those who wanted to make life easier for the program, not the user |
| 08:58.12 | Guerin | mhall: you're just plain wrong. |
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| 08:58.13 | Coke | Guerin: indeed you are correct. |
| 08:58.16 | EdLin | mhall: you could do like emacs and have a LISP interpreter built into your s-expression parser. :-) |
| 08:58.20 | mhall | people write stuff in HTML often |
| 08:58.29 | Toshi | hello @ all |
| 08:58.33 | jm_ | Guerin: XML is a nightmare to parse, hardly easier for the program |
| 08:58.33 | mhall | EdLin: yes this could be done |
| 08:58.45 | Coke | The _only_ reason anybody would use XML is to utilize the vast number of parsers and data type verifiers (DTD and/or schemas) |
| 08:58.47 | mhall | EdLin: but LISP is harder to use than shell scripts |
| 08:58.51 | dondelelcaro | jm_: possibly, but that problem has largely been solved. |
| 08:58.58 | Coke | It is a choice by the programmer for his convenience, not the end users. |
| 08:59.08 | mhall | i don't believe that's true |
| 08:59.09 | Coke | mhall: for what? |
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| 08:59.13 | dondelelcaro | jm_: unless you're into reinventing wheels for some reason |
| 08:59.14 | Toshi | i got a little problem |
| 08:59.15 | Toshi | apt-get upgrade shows me an unmed dependencies error |
| 08:59.22 | Coke | mhall: Lisp is easier to write fuzzy logic and AI with than BASH. |
| 08:59.22 | Guerin | jm_: the only good use for xml is as a markup language for documents which need to be rendered into arbitrary formats |
| 08:59.22 | dondelelcaro | !tell Toshi -about bat |
| 08:59.24 | mhall | i was an XML end user and found it was very good for what we did |
| 08:59.24 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: you mean by using various libraries to do the job and call callbacks? |
| 08:59.29 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: follow those instructions if you can |
| 08:59.32 | Toshi | installing this packet is due an preinstal error not |
| 08:59.38 | mhall | Coke: we were talking about everyday configuration |
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| 08:59.50 | mhall | Coke: so please see my statements as pertaining to this topic |
| 08:59.57 | Coke | mhall: s-expressions are the best if you require logic in your config file. |
| 08:59.58 | dondelelcaro | jm_: that's one method; there are also libraries which can parse the entire thing into a data structure as well if the file is known to be small enough to do that |
| 09:00.08 | jm_ | dondelelcaro: true |
| 09:00.14 | mhall | Coke: i don't see how you can say they are always the best for logic |
| 09:00.20 | Coke | mhall: if you only need data structures I think YAML is by far superior to XML. |
| 09:00.35 | Toshi | its all about the tetex |
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| 09:00.49 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: right, well, we'll need the whole output so we can see exactly what is going on |
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| 09:01.01 | Huahua | 不错 |
| 09:01.04 | mhall | some kinds of config file use special regular expressions to deal with logic |
| 09:01.18 | mhall | and it's very fast and works pretty well for pattern matching situations |
| 09:01.30 | mhall | so one could argue standard ml would be better than s-expressions |
| 09:01.47 | Coke | mhall: for configuration files, yes, when s-expressions vs imperative aproach. I think config files could use a declarative aproach too. |
| 09:01.47 | mhall | s-expressions are not always the clearest most readable thing |
| 09:01.49 | Toshi | tetex-extra depends tetex-base an it not installed |
| 09:02.02 | Coke | mhall: certainly more readable than XML |
| 09:02.03 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: and why can't you install tetex-base? |
| 09:02.38 | mhall | Coke: i don't know, good xml can make a lot of things pretty clear |
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| 09:02.59 | mhall | the problem with most xml is that it's bloated but nothing about xml makes the bloat mandatory |
| 09:03.00 | Coke | mhall: I agree. but YAML or s-expressions makes it even more clear. |
| 09:03.04 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard, kernel is 2.6.14 |
| 09:03.07 | mhall | the problem is the users |
| 09:03.22 | mhall | they have misapplied the tool in cases |
| 09:03.33 | roo9 | with packages.debian.org down, does anyone know what package contains glib-config ? or how can i find that |
| 09:03.33 | jm_ | TiCPU: anything useful in logs when that starts happening? |
| 09:03.41 | jm_ | roo9: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:03.45 | Toshi | subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:03.47 | Coke | mhall: "<a>b</a>" VS "a: b" |
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| 09:04.10 | Coke | mhall: http://yaml.org/ |
| 09:04.11 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, wait a second |
| 09:04.29 | TiCPU | What can I do to debug a problem where my network card works on the livecd but on my installation it works then start dropping all incoming packets after some downloads, rmmod'ing / re-modprobing the card won't help, only reboot solves it, card is a via-rhine onboard my VT7 motherboard |
| 09:04.31 | TiCPU | sorry |
| 09:04.38 | TiCPU | did not paste the right line |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] NETDEV WATCHDOG: eth0: transmit timed out |
| 09:04.41 | TiCPU | Jan 11 21:58:10 [kernel] eth0: Transmit timed out, status 0003, PHY status 786d, resetting... |
| 09:04.45 | xchg | TiCPU: Realtek 8139 ? |
| 09:05.09 | TiCPU | via-rhine: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 78) |
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| 09:05.40 | Toshi | dondelelcaro: subprocess preinstallation script returned error 1 |
| 09:05.49 | xchg | TiCPU: strange...had same problem with 8139...solved by using another module |
| 09:05.50 | mhall | the examples of YAML i'm seeing are not especially clear |
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| 09:06.08 | zimnyx | Do you know some mozilla-inbox commandline reader ? |
| 09:06.09 | TiCPU | it does so in both PIO and MMIO |
| 09:06.12 | mhall | i don't think i'd use it in a config file if i could use a tag system or lisp s-expr instead |
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| 09:06.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: I have via-rhine onboard at home, works fine - are you sure your link is OK when that happens? |
| 09:06.32 | mhall | it requires memorizing a custom syntax that isn't that obvious |
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| 09:07.18 | TiCPU | jm_: yep, rebooting just make it works until I start a download, I am on that computer right now, been on IRC for an hour or so, when downloading it won't last 5 minutes |
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| 09:08.04 | TiCPU | when the problem happens, the RX dropped count in ifconfig increase until all the pending packets came in and TX does not move at all |
| 09:08.21 | mhall | i wonder if you could develop a context free configuration file format where you don't have to worry about hierarchializing things |
| 09:08.33 | mhall | that would eliminate many of the headaches |
| 09:09.03 | diana | testing uses mysql 4.1...and not 5.0? |
| 09:09.34 | TiCPU | xchg: was it the same problem as this or ? |
| 09:09.40 | mhall | diana: 5.0 is really new and not esp stable yet afaict |
| 09:09.55 | xchg | TiCPU: packet drop after certain amount of downloaded data |
| 09:10.06 | mhall | diana: so it could take some time for them to get all the versions of the related packages compiled at the same time as each other and imported into stable |
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| 09:10.09 | bibe | diana : you can use mysql-server-5.0 from testing |
| 09:10.27 | mhall | alright, i just thought of a debian question finally... |
| 09:10.30 | TiCPU | xchg: you say changing the module helped, mm maybe I could try a make clean and make on my kernel |
| 09:10.31 | jm_ | TiCPU: might be an IRQ issue - I know I've had that when I started using it, then I used out-of-the-kernel-tree driver and that one worked, but then the problem disappeared, maybe try using various kernel options, such as disabling ACPI, APIC or pci=noacpi |
| 09:10.44 | xchg | TiCPU: at 2.6.x (don't remember exactly), but as i mentioned before it was 8139. Problem was solved by switching to 8139too instead of 8139cp |
| 09:10.52 | mhall | how do i set a hold on a package without using dselect? aptitude hold seems toothless and does not cause a package hold to 'stick' |
| 09:11.32 | TiCPU | mmm let me see the difference |
| 09:11.36 | xchg | TiCPU: you're using custom kernel? then the problem may be in some sort of mis-configured things (somewhere in BUS PCI section) |
| 09:11.39 | mhall | TiCPU: see if you can check /proc/interrupts and yank out unneeded pci cards and disable unneeded peripherals until your netcard gets its own IRQ |
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| 09:11.55 | TiCPU | let me see IRQ |
| 09:11.58 | mhall | TiCPU: i have had netcards that fail when sharing IRQs on PCI |
| 09:12.14 | jm_ | yeah that was my problem too |
| 09:12.14 | mhall | TiCPU: even though Intel mandates such support in the spec |
| 09:12.21 | mhall | jm_: fucking sucks doesn't it |
| 09:12.22 | Toshi | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:12.24 | TiCPU | it is alone on IRQ 19, only sharing is made by 'all-the-usb-ports' |
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| 09:12.26 | jm_ | mhall: indeed |
| 09:12.40 | mhall | TiCPU: hmm yeah, oughta work then |
| 09:12.46 | dondelelcaro | Toshi: I need the full output; use the paster bot to paste it. |
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| 09:12.52 | streuner | TV-card and soundcard doesn't work here (sharing the same IRQ) |
| 09:12.52 | mhall | TiCPU: maybe as they said, driver isn't quite right |
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| 09:13.26 | mhall | TiCPU: also better check make sure pci settings aren't weird, and any performance enhancements like mmapping io registers, etc. in driver are disabled until it's stable |
| 09:13.35 | gbkyle | any idea why apt-get installing a kernel/headers for a 2.6-686-smp would fail on boot? i get some /dev/console error and kernel panic. |
| 09:13.39 | TiCPU | is there a way to check if driver is in MMIO / PIO mode ? |
| 09:13.45 | mhall | TiCPU: additionally see if you can enable driver verbose logging |
| 09:13.59 | streuner | gbkyle: custom kernel? |
| 09:14.01 | gbkyle | nope |
| 09:14.07 | Silent_al | hi , ive got IE6 installed with wine , where can i find the original icon for it? |
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| 09:14.11 | mhall | TiCPU: see what you linked into the kernel /proc/config.gz if you enabled kernel config support |
| 09:14.11 | gbkyle | linux-image-2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 09:14.17 | streuner | gbkyle: grub? |
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| 09:14.22 | gbkyle | yes |
| 09:14.24 | mhall | TiCPU: otherwise .config in the code tree |
| 09:14.32 | thirst | where can i find a .deb package of gaim-2.0-beta ? |
| 09:14.34 | TiCPU | and yes, I enabled MMIO first, I thhough that was the cause, I did a make modules after disabling it and reloaded the module (also rebooted later) |
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| 09:15.06 | xchg | TiCPU: btw, are there anything NIC related in BIOS ? |
| 09:15.11 | mhall | TiCPU: also maybe check bios and disable any overclocked shit |
| 09:15.20 | jm_ | TiCPU: pass debug=7 to the driver |
| 09:15.24 | xchg | some sort of "preformance boosting" or something like that |
| 09:15.26 | TiCPU | mmm I remember I can only disable it and also enable wake on lan |
| 09:15.37 | mhall | xchg: yeah i'll never buy a DFI mobo ever again |
| 09:15.40 | TiCPU | no overclock at the moment ;) |
| 09:15.47 | TiCPU | ok, let me reload the driver |
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| 09:16.03 | mhall | xchg: i did a community service project installing *gasp* xp pro onto one and it bluescreened for weeks |
| 09:16.09 | gbkyle | streuner: any ideas? |
| 09:16.18 | xchg | mhall: hate these performance quirks in bios |
| 09:16.20 | mhall | xchg: stupid dfi used hack performance settings that confused stock drivers |
| 09:16.21 | streuner | no, not about grub... |
| 09:16.23 | TiCPU | omg... I was able to do it without reconnecting ahahah |
| 09:16.26 | gbkyle | ok |
| 09:16.27 | xchg | mhall: since these're marketing fakes |
| 09:16.38 | mhall | xchg: and their load safe defaults shit refused to disable the unsafe shit |
| 09:16.43 | gbkyle | where did nvidia-kernel-source go? |
| 09:16.45 | gbkyle | :\ |
| 09:16.50 | mhall | xchg: fucking conjobbing bastards |
| 09:16.57 | TiCPU | jm_: thanks for that one, got many debug info now |
| 09:17.08 | mhall | xchg: and i won't buy abit again either |
| 09:17.09 | streuner | gbkyle: dpkg -L <package> |
| 09:17.12 | xchg | mhall: nowadays even IBM doing such things |
| 09:17.25 | xchg | mhall: had ibm brand new laptop here with broken ACPI |
| 09:17.34 | gbkyle | im saying in the debian packages |
| 09:17.46 | gbkyle | havent used debian in a while i remember there being a nvidia-kernel |
| 09:17.49 | TiCPU | (maybe too much) |
| 09:17.49 | gbkyle | whatever |
| 09:17.52 | mhall | xchg: cheap sleeve bearing northbridge fan burnt out northbridge and my cpu was running überslow with half-speed clock... couldn't figure out why |
| 09:18.07 | TiCPU | I will try a download now, brb (probably) |
| 09:18.10 | sep | gbkyle, i ususaly use the nvidia one-liner /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
| 09:18.19 | gbkyle | ty |
| 09:18.20 | mhall | xchg: had to get all new mobo, proc, power supply cause i needed it fixed fast and nobody sells ath xp mobos locally |
| 09:18.30 | jm_ | it's in non-free ... |
| 09:18.32 | khermans | What date was "woody" released? |
| 09:18.33 | mhall | xchg: broken acpi? i can help you there a bit |
| 09:18.42 | jm_ | khermans: Debian web page will tell you or the bot |
| 09:18.43 | streuner | gbkyle: what version of debian do you use? |
| 09:18.48 | xchg | mhall: don't worry, we've sent it back to US |
| 09:18.54 | xchg | mhall: ibm US office |
| 09:19.02 | isorox | july 19 2002 |
| 09:19.05 | streuner | khermans: /msg dpkg woody |
| 09:19.09 | mhall | xchg: yeah i had to do some stuff to get my acer working |
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| 09:19.25 | xchg | mhall: they'll charge our back, since ibm cert. enginers stroked their dicks at that laptop for 3 weeks and could do nothing with it |
| 09:19.27 | gbkyle | 3.1 |
| 09:19.44 | gbkyle | netinstall then i did a dist-upgrade to testing |
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| 09:19.49 | xchg | mhall: so it's hardware bug rather... |
| 09:19.51 | mhall | xchg: bet i could get it to work in a day |
| 09:20.02 | smacky_wolf | Erm, hi all. |
| 09:20.11 | smacky_wolf | I have a question that maybe someone here can resolve |
| 09:20.29 | Toshi | dondelcarlo: it an offline station |
| 09:20.39 | smacky_wolf | Would anyone be kind enough to give me a hand |
| 09:20.47 | jelly | !ask |
| 09:20.48 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:20.49 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about ask |
| 09:21.02 | xchg | mhall: it wasn't mine, my friend from US residing here right now ordered it. I only had a chance to play with it for couple of hours, until it brought machine to ibm service support |
| 09:21.17 | xchg | mhall: but let's face the fact, hardware nowadays is _shit_ |
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| 09:22.13 | xchg | never will forget that day when i had to re-solder the QFP packaged 128 pin chip on ATX mb |
| 09:22.52 | xchg | becose soldering robot was out of ware to solder it correctly i guess :-) |
| 09:22.56 | mhall | xchg: blecch |
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| 09:23.57 | Toshi | dondelelcaro can you open a private channel ? |
| 09:24.05 | netman1 | Hi All. How do I merge 2 lines in vi? |
| 09:24.18 | streuner | gbkyle: does the error look similar to this one? /msg dpkg udev 2.6.12 |
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| 09:24.40 | jm_ | netman1: J |
| 09:24.51 | netman1 | jm_: Thanks. |
| 09:24.54 | tarzeau | nobody knows what usb device not accepting new address=36 (error=-71) means? |
| 09:24.54 | smacky|FFS | Am I an idiot if I don't understand asl |
| 09:25.00 | smacky|FFS | *ask |
| 09:25.28 | khermans | Debina rules -- you guys rock -- if only Linux had genetalia, well... |
| 09:25.53 | mhall | khermans: don't go there |
| 09:26.02 | thering | hi? |
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| 09:26.16 | sep | smacky_wolf, it just means you wont get answers if all you do it ask about help. you must provide detail about what is wrong and if someone knows they'll answer. |
| 09:26.18 | smacky_wolf | If linux had genitalia, it would be cheating on me >=( |
| 09:26.19 | khermans | mhall, i puprosely left it to your imagination --> http://www.fu-fme.com |
| 09:26.32 | mhall | thering: heh |
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| 09:26.37 | smacky_wolf | Sep: OK, I get it. |
| 09:26.47 | thering | mhall ,heh |
| 09:26.54 | khermans | Debian --> http://www.fu-fme.com/faq.html |
| 09:27.01 | xchg | hm, penguins definitely has genitalia :-) |
| 09:27.09 | sep | !tell smacky_wolf about smart questions |
| 09:27.34 | sep | smacky_wolf, reading that should give you the needed skills in how to ask questions in a way that makes it easier to help you |
| 09:27.38 | thering | could I ask a smart question here? |
| 09:27.53 | xchg | bleh |
| 09:28.18 | smacky_wolf | Well then. I am trying to install Debian Sarge 2.6.8 onto an Acer Extensa 2300. I can boot, the first stage of install works fine, but when it comes time to actually boot into my new system, it hangs while detecting USB devices. I have none attached, all it does is try to configure the actual hardware. I can't do anyhting, i can't open a new terminal, or anything at all. |
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| 09:28.54 | chugga | Version: 1.0.4-2sarge5 <- apt cache show mozilla-firefox ....... im using testing. isnt this a bit old for testing? |
| 09:28.57 | smacky_wolf | Any ideas? I have had hangs on UBS beforewith another machine, but usually after a while they just fix themselves. |
| 09:29.01 | mhall | smacky_wolf: i think you can boot with nousb |
| 09:29.12 | mhall | smacky_wolf: try looking through fkey screens |
| 09:29.20 | Toshi | could anybody help me with an apt-get error ? i cant use dpkg because the target system is offline |
| 09:29.22 | smacky_wolf | I tried that, apparantly it didn't work |
| 09:29.28 | xchg | smacky_wolf: it can be solved cardinally if you disable USB in bios |
| 09:29.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: well it's really shitting on your day |
| 09:29.39 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you'll be able to log in |
| 09:29.45 | mhall | xchg: not sure you can on laptops |
| 09:29.56 | mhall | xchg: they are lame about configurability |
| 09:29.59 | xchg | mhall: hm, maybe you're right |
| 09:30.01 | noiesmo | Toshi, whats your error messgae |
| 09:30.08 | gbkyle | streuner: if you're still here.. i got it to boot.. i needed to install udev ;) |
| 09:30.12 | mhall | xchg: i don't want to be |
| 09:30.18 | mhall | xchg: i hope i am wrong |
| 09:30.18 | smacky_wolf | Oh, OK. Will I eventually be able to comfig the USB after first boot? I really would like to use it. |
| 09:30.32 | gbkyle | streuner: oh and grub changed the menu.lst to hda instead of sda |
| 09:30.33 | Toshi | i cant install tetex-* because unmet dependencies |
| 09:30.36 | mhall | smacky_wolf: yeah, long term it should work, it does on my aspire 5000 |
| 09:30.43 | xchg | smacky_wolf: at least you can boot in and take a look what's happening actually |
| 09:30.44 | smacky_wolf | Awesome. |
| 09:30.51 | mhall | smacky_wolf: it's just some glitch |
| 09:30.55 | xchg | smacky_wolf: or just try ctrl-c combination during USB scan |
| 09:30.58 | mhall | smacky_wolf: let me provide a link to try |
| 09:31.13 | smacky_wolf | I tried the ctl+c also. No dice. |
| 09:31.23 | xchg | smacky_wolf: and other terminal ? |
| 09:31.38 | xchg | smacky_wolf: can you switch to another vconsole ? |
| 09:31.38 | noiesmo | !unmet dependencies |
| 09:31.39 | streuner | gbkyle: hm, wired, i thought netinstall install udev by default... |
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| 09:31.42 | smacky_wolf | nope. |
| 09:31.53 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:31.54 | mhall | smacky_wolf: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
| 09:32.06 | xchg | these configurators are going worse and worse |
| 09:32.23 | xchg | man should be able to switch console anytime |
| 09:32.26 | Toshi | i already tried the dpkd -r |
| 09:32.29 | gbkyle | the instructions that dpkg gave me to install nvidia one-liner didnt work :| any other suggestions to install nvidia drivers? |
| 09:32.58 | Toshi | noiesmo there seems to be a problem with the tetex-* files |
| 09:32.58 | noiesmo | Toshi, what debian version |
| 09:33.05 | smacky_wolf | Mhall: Thanks muchly :) |
| 09:33.11 | smacky_wolf | And to anyone else also. |
| 09:33.12 | streuner | gbkyle: what didn't work? |
| 09:33.27 | gbkyle | <dpkg> nvidia one-liner is, like, update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 09:33.29 | Toshi | noiiesmo mostly handcrafted |
| 09:33.53 | gbkyle | streuner: module-assistant, error message: Installation of the nvidia-kernel-source source failed. |
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| 09:34.01 | xchg | smacky_wolf: try to plug something to usb port and do it over |
| 09:34.18 | smacky_wolf | Yeah, tried that also. |
| 09:34.32 | xchg | but in my oppinion just wrong chipset module is used |
| 09:34.56 | streuner | gbkyle: did you try to install those packages by hand (via apt-get)? |
| 09:35.00 | sep | gbkyle, it would help if you said what part failed in how it failed. you can also use the nvidia howto /msg dpkg nvidia howto |
| 09:35.22 | streuner | gbkyle: try 'apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-setting |
| 09:35.22 | Silent_al | thirst , ya' here? |
| 09:35.36 | Toshi | noiesmo the installation of tetex results in a pre-installation script reports error |
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| 09:35.46 | gbkyle | there is no nvidia-glx package anymore |
| 09:35.46 | mhall | how can i force a package hold on the command line? aptitude hold seems to be ignored by apt-get |
| 09:35.53 | gbkyle | its referred to by another package |
| 09:36.03 | andrewtaylor_ | I installed Debian sarge, on a cheap box with a Riva TNT32MB, I ran XF86Config and setup the card for 1280x1024 @ 60, when I start-x, it's in 800x600 and the only options I have in my WM is 800x600 and 640x480 - Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
| 09:36.07 | streuner | dpkg info nvidia-glx testing |
| 09:36.09 | dpkg | nvidia-glx: (NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x driver), section non-free/x11, is optional. Version: 1.0.7174-4 (etch), Packaged size: 2966 kB, Installed size: 9592 kB |
| 09:36.35 | quasisane | mhall: echo 'packagename hold' | dpkg --set-selections |
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| 09:36.50 | gbkyle | :| |
| 09:36.51 | sep | gbkyle, did you read the last part of the one-liner, the one about requiering nonfree and contrib sources |
| 09:36.53 | xchg | andrewtaylor_: can TNT work in 1280x1024 ? |
| 09:37.01 | xchg | !calc 1280*1024*2 |
| 09:37.05 | mhall | quasisane: ah sweet |
| 09:37.07 | xchg | hm |
| 09:37.18 | streuner | gbkyle: add non-free/contrib to your sources.list |
| 09:37.21 | rendi | apt-get -y install apache2 phpbb2 mysql-server |
| 09:37.23 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, you need to look at your monitors capablities and set the hor and vert freq range also maybe aim for 1024 x 768 |
| 09:37.27 | rendi | E: There are problems and -y was used without --force-yes |
| 09:37.29 | rendi | why |
| 09:37.29 | gbkyle | ah, sry. |
| 09:37.30 | rendi | anyone ? |
| 09:37.40 | rendi | hlep |
| 09:37.40 | andrewtaylor_ | why the lower res? |
| 09:38.07 | SlayerXP | rendi: don't use -y then |
| 09:38.08 | mhall | quasisane: thanks |
| 09:38.29 | quasisane | mhall: you're welcome |
| 09:38.31 | sep | andrewtaylor_, becouse your monitor settings claim that's the highest you should use, adjust the refreash rates acording to your monitor spec |
| 09:38.41 | mhall | quasisane: i have used --get-... a lot but never considered set ;-) |
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| 09:38.58 | andrewtaylor_ | My monitor is a 1280x1024 flat panel, it'll look rotten if it's not a native |
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| 09:39.03 | streuner | !hold |
| 09:39.03 | dpkg | [hold] a status flag to tell apt not to automatically upgrade a package. apt will place packages on hold if they require packages that are not currently installable; you can 'apt-get install pkgname' to explicitly install the package. To put a package on hold, 'echo pkgname hold | dpkg --set-selections' or use the '=' key on the package in dselect or aptitude. Use 'echo pkgname install | dpkg --set-selections' to remove the hold. |
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| 09:39.13 | inter | join #debian es |
| 09:39.21 | inter | hola |
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| 09:40.00 | inter | como me conecto con debian es |
| 09:40.07 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, well youll need to find the right refresh rate and h & v sync open console and try xf86config or xf86cfg |
| 09:40.17 | andrewtaylor_ | okay thanks |
| 09:40.24 | Silent_al | inter, /join #debian es |
| 09:40.34 | Guerin | no |
| 09:40.49 | Guerin | don't use xf86config |
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| 09:40.56 | Silent_al | !teel inter about debian es |
| 09:41.07 | Guerin | ask dpkg about set up x and hwinfo |
| 09:41.12 | Silent_al | opps... nm. |
| 09:41.17 | noiesmo | andrewtaylor_, Guerin says only use xf86cfg |
| 09:41.26 | Guerin | no |
| 09:41.34 | Guerin | guerin says NEVER use xf86config |
| 09:41.38 | Guerin | of xf86cfg |
| 09:41.45 | sep | !drxx |
| 09:41.45 | dpkg | from memory, drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 09:41.57 | inter | no asi no |
| 09:42.21 | bobbens | inter: /join #debian-es |
| 09:42.29 | xchg | X -configure usually do the trick |
| 09:42.31 | inter | graccies |
| 09:42.38 | Guerin | goddamnit |
| 09:42.42 | Guerin | this is debian, people |
| 09:42.43 | andrewtaylor_ | thanks |
| 09:42.52 | Guerin | there are tools which work |
| 09:42.57 | Silent_al | !tell inter about spanish |
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| 09:43.08 | Guerin | you don't have to use xf86cfg, X -config and so on |
| 09:43.17 | xchg | Guerin: it's a question of taste |
| 09:43.23 | streuner | no |
| 09:43.33 | Guerin | xchg: it's a question of whether you want to break your config files for debconf |
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| 09:43.37 | streuner | not for people using debian |
| 09:44.03 | xchg | editing configs by hand either prohibited in debian ? ;-) |
| 09:44.09 | xchg | didn't knew |
| 09:44.40 | sep | xchg, ofcourse you can do it that way. but then you have to fix it again yourself when a package upgrades something you didnt think of. and debconf would have kept it ok for you. |
| 09:44.47 | Guerin | xchg: not at all. But some config files are protected, and if you fuck with them, it breaks debconf. |
| 09:44.58 | Guerin | the x config file is one such |
| 09:45.41 | Guerin | where is .hr |
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| 09:45.48 | Guerin | !country codes |
| 09:45.49 | dpkg | Country codes are at http://www.ics.uci.edu/pub/websoft/wwwstat/country-codes.txt |
| 09:45.58 | streuner | croatia |
| 09:45.59 | sep | xchg, besides dpkg-reconfigure rocks awsome. you can just enter along to the value you want to change and then just keep enter pressed until it exits. it remembers you previous choises saves you entering every single value all the time. it just rocks |
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| 09:46.06 | prh | can anyone help me recover a dead filesystem? It is ext3 in an LVM2 lv - fsck says "Filesystem revision too high while trying to open /dev/weeblu05/weeblu05-home" to any superblock. ext2resize says "ext2_open: fs has unsupported feature(s) enabled: compat 80008000 ro_compat 80008000 recover incompat 80008004" lde says "Warning: First block (2147516416) != Normal first block (1)" .... any ideas? |
| 09:46.12 | thering | !tell |
| 09:46.15 | gbkyle | streuner / sep : thank you for your help |
| 09:46.17 | cusco | hi! |
| 09:46.27 | Guerin | Hrvatska, right you are |
| 09:46.39 | Guerin | i'll probably be going to coratia :) |
| 09:46.41 | sep | only thing i wish it did better was multihead :) but that's ok |
| 09:46.43 | cusco | when I use cfdisk I don't see the ext3 file system type |
| 09:46.44 | Guerin | bah, and croatia too |
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| 09:46.52 | cusco | how do I format a hard drive to be ext3 |
| 09:46.55 | thering | !tell me about smart questions |
| 09:47.01 | Guerin | cusco: you don't, using cfdisk |
| 09:47.04 | sep | cusco, mkfs -t ext3 /device |
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| 09:47.31 | cusco | oh.. ok.. sep will that format it? |
| 09:47.33 | xchg | sep: there're several things i like to do by hand, several things i let debconf do, everything working just fine. it's a true freedomship |
| 09:47.37 | Guerin | cusco: cfdisk makes partitions. Once you've made a partition, use mkfs.ext3 to put a filesystem on it |
| 09:47.45 | sep | cusco, and /device ofcouse beeing a partitino not a harddrive |
| 09:47.47 | cusco | oh.. heh ok |
| 09:47.53 | cusco | right.. thanks |
| 09:47.54 | xchg | sep: X config is the one of things i like to edit by hand |
| 09:48.18 | sep | xchg, yes. but you shoudnt recomend that to others especialy if you dont know their skill level, and they might not know how to fix debconf |
| 09:48.31 | gbkyle | uh, hrm any idea why when gdm starts.. my monitor looks like shit.. (i can see the nvidia splash screen) but its so dim? |
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| 09:48.53 | Guerin | particularly since you can damage some video hardware if you fuck up a modeline |
| 09:49.07 | Guerin | gbkyle: i blame nvidia |
| 09:49.15 | gbkyle | grr |
| 09:49.22 | sep | Guerin, that was long ago tho. been years since i was able to do that |
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| 09:49.41 | Guerin | sep: but once again, you don't know what hardware you're dealing with |
| 09:49.44 | gbkyle | how can i disable gdm at boot again? |
| 09:49.51 | sep | Guerin, yes very tues :) |
| 09:49.58 | streuner | gbkyle: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 09:50.06 | xchg | sep: there's only problem with question guy asked, i'm completely don't sure that 32MB TNT can address 1280*1024*16/24/32 . X -configure will fetch available modes for the card and create config at _home_ directory. Then he can list it for the available modes |
| 09:50.25 | xchg | sep: so /etc/X11/... isn't affected at this point |
| 09:50.29 | Guerin | xchg: hwinfo does that too |
| 09:50.35 | gbkyle | thanks again |
| 09:50.46 | Guerin | come to thinik of it, so does dpkg-reconfigure |
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| 09:51.45 | tjostolf | gbkyle: and you can do /etc/init.d/gdm -f remove; /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
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| 09:53.39 | gbkyle | Got it. |
| 09:53.52 | CasinoLuv | how to close a window in xserver using a shell script? |
| 09:54.03 | gbkyle | now i just gotta figure out what the fuck is wrong with nvidia and my monitor :\ |
| 09:54.41 | diana | I did apt-get install apache2 mysql-server phpbb2, and they all installed fine..and my web server is up and running...but how do I implement phpbb2 into my site?(I am on testing, with "testing security" like in the topic. |
| 09:54.55 | jetscreamer | edit /etc/X11/default-display-manager and make it empty instead of uninstalling |
| 09:54.55 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: you can kill something using its x resource handle using kill? or xkill maybe |
| 09:56.18 | CasinoLuv | Guerin: I would like just to close the window not kill the process directly |
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| 09:56.45 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i think xkill can do that, too. |
| 09:57.02 | bibe | diana : take a look at the output of 'dpkg -L phpbb2', it's possible that it installed an apache2 configuration file for phpbb2 |
| 09:57.10 | Guerin | CasinoLuv: i've not used it in an age or three, though, so I may well be wrong. |
| 09:57.22 | jvw | diana: check out /usr/share/doc/phpbb2 |
| 09:57.26 | jvw | diana: esp README.Debian |
| 09:57.34 | jvw | diana: possibly you want to install mysql-server too |
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| 09:57.41 | jvw | diana: and then phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.22 | melao- | where can I find tips on how to setup a network, distribute configuration files from a server to a couple of clients, etc? |
| 09:58.28 | xchg | CasinoLuv: xwininfo for getting the resource id, then xkill |
| 09:58.36 | SlayerXP | melao-: cfengine will let you do that |
| 09:58.41 | diana | jvw: I did all that. |
| 09:58.46 | deeler | I need the 'rsh' command for debian, but it seems to be the ssh version, where can i find the regular one ? |
| 09:58.50 | diana | I setup mysql with phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 09:58.58 | jm_ | deeLer: /msg dpkg search |
| 09:59.00 | diana | jvw: But I'm not sure how to actually add phpbb2 to my website. |
| 09:59.01 | Guerin | diana: which regular version? |
| 09:59.10 | rendi | tes |
| 09:59.10 | Guerin | deeler: which regular version? |
| 09:59.13 | smacky_wolf | Ok, guys. Next time I talk to you, it should be from within Debian :D |
| 09:59.15 | diana | Guerin: I dunno whatever testing uses. |
| 09:59.17 | jvw | diana: that's why there's a README.Debian |
| 09:59.22 | jetscreamer | hwinfo --monitor for the refreshrates gbkyle |
| 09:59.23 | smacky_wolf | Thanks for the help <3 |
| 09:59.24 | Guerin | diana: sorry, that was my bad |
| 09:59.27 | xchg | smacky_wolf: any success ? |
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| 09:59.38 | jvw | diana: you'll need to include the /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf in your apache setup |
| 09:59.38 | Gnea | ugh.. does anyone have, or used, a toshiba satellite 5105-S501 laptop? i already looked it up and what's there is very scant |
| 09:59.44 | CasinoLuv | xchg: but Xkill wont provide any warranty that the app wil end "ok" |
| 09:59.50 | deeLer | like the one in RedHat , doesn't use SSH , but the man says it's just a remote shell , no secure conenctions |
| 10:00.00 | jvw | diana: like add "Include /etc/phpbb2/apache.conf" to /etc/apache(2?)/apache.conf or so |
| 10:00.16 | smacky_wolf | Just finished burning the CD, and am about to rebot |
| 10:00.18 | Guerin | deeLer: wtf would you not want secure connections? |
| 10:00.32 | CasinoLuv | I need a way I can close a window(like clicking on the close button) using a shell script |
| 10:01.02 | deeLer | Guerin, it's on a local network to execute a command on an Axel Platine Terminal |
| 10:01.10 | Gnea | oh geez.... nevermind |
| 10:01.12 | xchg | CasinoLuv: as far as i know it doesn't acts as kill, instead it dealing with xserver forcing him to close the connection |
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| 10:01.28 | deeLer | used to work with Fedora, but on Debian 'rsh' is the SSH version |
| 10:01.50 | Guerin | deeLer: heh. |
| 10:01.52 | xchg | CasinoLuv: and IMHO if the application wrote right (e.g. handling the X signals well), nothing wrong will happen..or..who knows :-) |
| 10:01.58 | deeLer | okay; i did a rsh-client apt-get ... works now |
| 10:02.01 | jvw | deeLer: there *is* real rsh in Debian too, if you really must have it |
| 10:02.01 | deeLer | thanks jm_ |
| 10:02.09 | jvw | deeLer: ah, you found it |
| 10:02.15 | Guerin | deeLer: see if it's configurable, else build the source for your own. Or consider telnet or such. <shudder> |
| 10:02.27 | Guerin | oh |
| 10:02.28 | deeLer | yeah ... now 'rsh' is a real rsh |
| 10:02.30 | Guerin | winnah |
| 10:02.41 | deeLer | wierd that the command names are the same, anyway, it works now |
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| 10:03.08 | melao- | I'm looking for a way to install clients automatically, without the need to answer all the questions dpkg asks, and then update its configuration later based on a single well-configured model client. is that possible? |
| 10:03.26 | jvw | deeLer: that's because a lot of programs use rsh as tunnel, and by having rsh default to ssh if real rsh isn't installed, they all work out of the box... |
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| 10:03.34 | CasinoLuv | xchg: that part of the who knows its what worries me...but I will dig up further into this subject |
| 10:03.39 | jvw | deeLer: like rsync, remote cvs, etc etc |
| 10:03.57 | jetscreamer | melao-: i saw some automated program like what you want in sources but i don't remember the name |
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| 10:04.05 | xchg | CasinoLuv: if you want to close only one type of application you can simple trace back the results |
| 10:04.07 | noiesmo | melao-, i know red hat has kickstart http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/custom-guide/ch-kickstart2.html |
| 10:04.26 | deeLer | jvw, thanks for the info |
| 10:04.33 | jm_ | melao-: pre-seeding |
| 10:04.36 | jvw | deeLer: after all, ssh is a sort of 'remote shell', just using a differnet protocol, and it's intended as rsh replacement |
| 10:04.36 | noiesmo | melao-, not sure if debian version |
| 10:04.38 | petemc | melao-: look at phil hands version of d-i |
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| 10:04.58 | raf256 | !rq raf256 |
| 10:05.02 | raf256 | !qod raf256 |
| 10:05.08 | raf256 | hmm... |
| 10:05.11 | raf256 | !qod0 |
| 10:05.20 | thirst | Silent_al: yeah ... me here |
| 10:05.28 | raf256 | damn, how to show mine quotes? |
| 10:05.32 | jetscreamer | quotd? |
| 10:05.55 | jm_ | !qotd131 |
| 10:05.56 | dpkg | < Raf256> wazup < Raf256> how can I change repeat rate and delay? < Raf256> in X < asg> Raf256: man xset < Raf256> asg: ok \o/ < Raf256> asg: oohh ddddaaaammnn < Raf256> ssssttuuppiiddd rrreeepppaaaattt rrrraaattee |
| 10:06.13 | xchg | lol :) |
| 10:07.04 | liable | hehe, thats one of my favs. |
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| 10:07.52 | xchg | liable: the best keyboard trainer by the way :-) |
| 10:08.15 | liable | heh |
| 10:08.16 | Silent_al | thirst, do u still want a gaim2 deb pkg? |
| 10:08.37 | diana | jvw: It is telling me it can't connect to the database. |
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| 10:08.45 | MrFaber | hi all |
| 10:08.51 | xchg | hi |
| 10:08.55 | MrFaber | is it possible that many packets are missing in etch? |
| 10:09.05 | MrFaber | Which are in other debian versions? |
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| 10:09.11 | thirst | Silent_al: well i wanted .. until i reaized that it doesn't come in with -vv .. or does it ? |
| 10:09.18 | MrFaber | hi xchg |
| 10:09.24 | chugga | whats -vv? |
| 10:09.24 | noiesmo | diana, you will need to adjust phpbb2 config fill with database mysql info |
| 10:09.25 | jm_ | MrFaber: /msg dpkg why is foo not in testing |
| 10:09.25 | thirst | Silent_al: but give me the link anyway.. |
| 10:09.30 | thirst | chugga: voice and video |
| 10:09.33 | noiesmo | fill =file |
| 10:09.39 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:09.40 | chugga | thirst, ok |
| 10:09.42 | caphuso | ok. where did you get it from? |
| 10:09.46 | diana | jvw: I did "/etc/init.d/mysql start" and the sql server said it started...but when I "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" I get an error when I try to "Create" the user phpbb2 |
| 10:09.55 | MrFaber | Something like vlc k3b and so on |
| 10:10.03 | MrFaber | the help files of this programs are there |
| 10:10.04 | noiesmo | diana, by default mysql user is root with no pasword |
| 10:10.07 | botsy | anybody use mosix ? |
| 10:10.14 | MrFaber | but not the programs themselves |
| 10:10.31 | botsy | i have recompil my kernel and i want to patch my kernel .. |
| 10:10.38 | botsy | with the mosix patch |
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| 10:10.44 | Silent_al | thirst , http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=558191 |
| 10:11.02 | botsy | it's not necessary i download kernel source if i have recompil my kernel ? |
| 10:11.05 | noiesmo | diana, look at installing phpmyadmin its a nice web interface for mysql apt-get install phpmyadmin then http://website/phpmyadmin |
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| 10:11.16 | thirst | Silent_al: thanks |
| 10:11.38 | jvw | noiesmo: eh, not if you use phpbb2-conf-mysql |
| 10:11.40 | jvw | diana: did you set a root password for mysql? |
| 10:11.41 | traian | hello |
| 10:11.43 | jetscreamer | botsy: if you recompiled your kernel you should already have the source |
| 10:11.50 | jvw | diana: and fill in the exact same password when phpbb2-conf-mysql asked you? |
| 10:11.51 | traian | i have a little problem |
| 10:11.55 | botsy | oky thank jetscreamer |
| 10:12.02 | traian | when i run apt-get update i get this error "W: GPG error: ftp://ftp.debian.org sid Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 10:12.03 | traian | " |
| 10:12.03 | noiesmo | jvw, k havent used it sorry |
| 10:12.17 | traian | what should i do about it? |
| 10:12.18 | bobbens | traian: /topic |
| 10:12.25 | Guerin | traian: read the topic |
| 10:12.29 | Guerin | ferchrissakes |
| 10:12.32 | traian | oh |
| 10:12.34 | traian | sorry |
| 10:12.41 | liable | !topicfsck traian |
| 10:12.51 | diana | jvw: I tried to...I did dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql...but I get "Failure: Database not created" |
| 10:13.13 | diana | jvw: It says error when trying to connect to the mysql database. |
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| 10:13.26 | jvw | diana: try whether you can connect yourself with 'mysql' |
| 10:13.35 | jvw | diana: anyway gotta go |
| 10:13.36 | noiesmo | diana, ps ax | grep mysql see if mysql running then |
| 10:13.56 | diana | jvw: I have a prompt with mysql> when I type that. |
| 10:14.22 | diana | mysql 5727 0.0 3.5 117636 16044 pts/0 Sl 05:11 0:00 /usr/sbin/mysqld --basedir=/usr --datadir=/var/lib/mysql --user=mysql --pid-file=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.pid --skip-locking --port=3306 --socket=/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock |
| 10:14.24 | jvw | didn't test it I think, maybe it doesn't work without a root password |
| 10:14.41 | diana | But I can't create a root password because it says it can't connect. |
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| 10:14.51 | jvw | diana: if it turns out that that was indeed the issue, please file a bug, I need to fix it then |
| 10:14.54 | Silent_al | traian, gimme a minute , i'll tell u how to solve this prob |
| 10:15.01 | jvw | diana: you can, you set a mysql root password with mysql |
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| 10:15.04 | jvw | diana: not with phpbb |
| 10:15.08 | traian | ok |
| 10:15.15 | omer_07 | i have a problem with Lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer in linux can you help me? |
| 10:15.23 | diana | jvw: When I did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it asked me for the root password for mysql. |
| 10:15.27 | xchg | omer_07: what's a problem with it ? |
| 10:15.30 | jvw | hopefully others can help you, otherwise, try forums.debian.net |
| 10:15.40 | hazed | diana: mysqladmin -u root password 'yourpass' will add a password. |
| 10:15.41 | jvw | diana: yes, but you need to *set* one first |
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| 10:16.40 | Shadur | Hmm. Xorg just stopped honoring control-alt-f1, and I'm not sure what I broke. |
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| 10:17.04 | diana | jvw: I typed as root in bash "mysqladmin -u root password mypassword" |
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| 10:17.17 | diana | jvw: Then I did /etc/init.d/mysql restart" and it still doesn't work... |
| 10:17.21 | omer_07 | xchg : i can see it on usb, i add printer, system recognizes printer but i couldn't get paper from printer. i can see document in kjobviewer, after -10 second it says aborted. How can i solve this? |
| 10:17.24 | diana | phpBB : Critical Error |
| 10:17.26 | diana | Could not connect to the database |
| 10:17.47 | Guerin | diana: read the documentation |
| 10:18.00 | Guerin | diana: really, this isn't so complicated you need someone to hold your hand through it |
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| 10:18.16 | Guerin | diana: or, if it is, you need to consider hiring an admin |
| 10:18.33 | xchg | omer_07: did you read that: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=49714 ? |
| 10:19.35 | deeLer | does the recently updated debian r1 install cd contains more hardware support ? or is it just security updates? |
| 10:19.47 | Silent_al | traian, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptAuthenticationInstructionsForHoary |
| 10:19.56 | noiesmo | diana, my suggestion and way of setting up mysql is to apt-get install phpmyadmin then open web browser http://yoursitename.blah/phpmyadmin then try access via user root no password if it says you are using password then enter in any password you may have set for it this will at least confim your mysql server |
| 10:20.13 | diana | cool it works |
| 10:20.28 | diana | Once I made the root password, then did "dpkg-reconfigure phpbb2-conf-mysql" it worked. |
| 10:20.38 | diana | But I had to manually make the root password with mysql. |
| 10:20.47 | Guerin | amazingly |
| 10:20.57 | MrFaber | Is anyone useing etch? |
| 10:20.57 | jetscreamer | hmmm phpbb doesn't like insecurity? |
| 10:21.03 | omer_07 | xchg: thanks. i will read now |
| 10:21.19 | hazed | diana: Yea, you have to manually set the root password for mysql, debconf usually tells you this :P |
| 10:21.20 | Guerin | !anyone use etch? |
| 10:21.20 | dpkg | No, no one uses etch, not even the people who use it. |
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| 10:21.40 | Silent_al | !heh |
| 10:21.40 | dpkg | Many would say that heh is #debian's favourite word, so not a good idea for your nick if you want hilighting to work. "heh" is not punctuation, so do not use it as such. Or http://odinnet.ath.cx/~erik/heh |
| 10:21.43 | jetscreamer | i used the etch beta installer no idea about your question |
| 10:22.28 | Silent_al | !i uses etch |
| 10:22.32 | Silent_al | :) |
| 10:22.43 | Silent_al | MrFaber, me |
| 10:22.46 | traian | Silent_al, thx |
| 10:22.53 | Silent_al | traian, np :) |
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| 10:23.02 | MrFaber | Silent_al: thanks, do you find vlc in your repository? |
| 10:23.04 | MrFaber | or k3b |
| 10:23.09 | MrFaber | or vnc4 |
| 10:23.32 | Silent_al | yup |
| 10:23.49 | MrFaber | hm, can you private message the standard part of your sources.list? |
| 10:23.50 | Silent_al | try search for it at : www.apt-get.org |
| 10:24.00 | MrFaber | I mean apt-cache search ... |
| 10:24.28 | chugga | etch my sketch |
| 10:25.06 | MrFaber | I don't want extra repositories and the funny thing is that there is a videolan help file in rep but not program |
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| 10:25.38 | sar4er | witam |
| 10:26.52 | diana | jvm: "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." |
| 10:27.01 | diana | jvw: Do I just go to login and login... root and my password? |
| 10:27.03 | diana | Or what is the username. |
| 10:27.07 | diana | administrator? |
| 10:27.51 | Guerin | !rtfm diana |
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| 10:29.30 | Gnea | UGH, dpkg will NOT let me downgrade my nvidia |
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| 10:30.03 | maxxle | h |
| 10:30.19 | jetscreamer | uninstall it first? |
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| 10:30.52 | Gnea | that's what i did too |
| 10:30.57 | Gnea | i'll try again |
| 10:31.04 | jetscreamer | was just a though |
| 10:31.05 | jetscreamer | t |
| 10:31.22 | Gnea | well i just upgraded it so who knows |
| 10:31.27 | Gnea | heh, even the modem works now |
| 10:31.32 | jetscreamer | me, i can't uninstall 2.6.14-2-k7 |
| 10:31.33 | Gnea | using alsa |
| 10:31.45 | Gnea | you're not booted into it? |
| 10:31.49 | jetscreamer | no |
| 10:32.35 | Trewas | I guess debian does not have highmem enabled kernels available? I just installed debian (etch) to a computer with 2GB of memory, and everything else is working perfectly except for missing half of the memory... |
| 10:32.54 | Gnea | Trewas: you'll need to compile your own |
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| 10:33.08 | djp | what should i set my network connection to under totem preferences? i have a 2mb adsl connection. should i use 512kbps dsl/cable or 1.5mbps t1/intranet/lan? i want to listen to internet radio... |
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| 10:33.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: yes it is enabled in stock kernels by default iirc... 4gb is what i remember seeing it set at |
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| 10:33.40 | TiCPU | seems like having acpi=off noapic in my kernel command line solved my network card problem, any downside ? |
| 10:33.58 | sep | Trewas, i have 2Gb and see everything with a stock 2.6.14 686-smp from etch |
| 10:34.12 | redguy|work | Trewas: it is enabled in -snm kernels |
| 10:34.18 | redguy|work | -smp |
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| 10:35.12 | Gnea | that's retarded, there should be a 4gig enabled uni kernel |
| 10:35.21 | diana | Guerin: What is the login... root/Admin/admin/Adminstrator/administrator? |
| 10:35.23 | Trewas | at least with linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 which was installed by default there is only ~900MB memory |
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| 10:35.37 | luliana | ive troubles with the installation of java plug-ins |
| 10:35.47 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:35.53 | diana | Guerin: phpbb2 as my username? |
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| 10:36.24 | Gnea | !java-package |
| 10:36.24 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, java-package is a package in contrib that builds a .deb from a manually downloaded Java distribution (JRE or JDK). http://www.debian-administration.org/?article=142 details how to install Sun's JRE or JDK. To install: apt-get install java-package; get a JRE or JDK from http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.5.0/download.jsp (the Linux (self-extracting file) NOT the RPM) ; fakeroot make-jpkg jre-*-linux-i586.bin; dpkg -i *.deb; |
| 10:36.25 | Trewas | but maybe I should try some never one (or 686/k7 version) in case they have it enabled, I'd rather not go with -smp kernel since there is only one processor |
| 10:36.51 | jetscreamer | 'could' be a function of the -386 kernel... try a better maybe |
| 10:37.14 | jetscreamer | oh and doesn't matter if you run an smp enabled kernel on a single proc box |
| 10:37.21 | luliana | ive downloaded a .bin file |
| 10:37.29 | luliana | so... i can delete it |
| 10:37.43 | jetscreamer | you downloaded so you can delete it... |
| 10:37.44 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 10:37.50 | Trewas | jetscreamer: isn't there some performance hit with smp-kernel? |
| 10:37.53 | luliana | i mean... |
| 10:38.03 | luliana | is it usable? |
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| 10:38.16 | jetscreamer | Trewas: let me rephrase: i've seen ppl i respect say it doesn't matter.. i personally have no idea |
| 10:38.29 | jetscreamer | Trewas: but no not that i've heard |
| 10:38.40 | jetscreamer | go with the 686 or the k7 though |
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| 10:38.52 | jetscreamer | you probably don't need to go with the smp |
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| 10:39.24 | Trewas | I'll try those... |
| 10:39.40 | yosef | How do I know if my swap is working? gnome resource meter shows it at 0% |
| 10:39.43 | muttix | luliana, yes ! |
| 10:39.51 | jetscreamer | yosef: swapon -c |
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| 10:40.12 | luliana | muttix... yes what?!?! i getting a little bit confused |
| 10:40.23 | jetscreamer | Trewas: afaicr, every -k7 kernel in the past 3 or 4 versions have had the highmem set at 4gb by default |
| 10:40.38 | muttix | luliana, you downloaded a .bin |
| 10:40.41 | luliana | yes |
| 10:40.42 | yosef | jetscreamer: answer "invalid option" |
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| 10:41.01 | yosef | jetscreamer: swapon -s ? |
| 10:41.02 | muttix | luliana, name of file is ? |
| 10:41.05 | sep | yosef, cat /proc/swaps |
| 10:41.06 | jetscreamer | err.. yousef -s |
| 10:41.10 | jetscreamer | :( |
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| 10:41.52 | rendi | help |
| 10:41.59 | luliana | muttix : jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:42.03 | rendi | i'm forgote mysql root password |
| 10:42.12 | muttix | luliana, 2.sec |
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| 10:42.50 | muttix | luliana, this is one way to do it http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/142 |
| 10:42.55 | yosef | OK I get Filename = "..." | Type = file | Size = 1126392 | Used = 12532 | Priority = -1| Does this mean it's set up right? |
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| 10:43.08 | luliana | thanks a lot |
| 10:43.14 | luliana | ill try to... |
| 10:43.20 | xchg | rendi: stop mysql |
| 10:43.27 | jetscreamer | it means it's on, yosef ... |
| 10:43.31 | jetscreamer | mounted |
| 10:43.36 | sep | rendi http://news.postnuke.com/Article1273.html |
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| 10:43.40 | xchg | rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:44.05 | xchg | rendi: or mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:44.31 | rendi | <xchg> rendi: then mysqld -Sg --user=root & <== after this how to change the forgot one |
| 10:44.40 | xchg | raden: log to mysql |
| 10:44.42 | _joey | I have an off-topic question: What is so special about usenet? I can many providers from US selling personal and corporate accounts to access usenet |
| 10:44.45 | muttix | luliana, or do this ;) chmod a+x jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin -> su -> mkdir /usr/jave -> cd /usr/java -> su root -> ./jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
| 10:44.48 | xchg | raden: USE mysql; |
| 10:45.13 | sep | would it be possible to use the debian-sys-maint users defined in /etc/mysql/debian.cnf to alter root's password perhaps ? someone knows |
| 10:45.14 | jetscreamer | it's not as policed as the intarweb i 'think' _joey |
| 10:45.15 | xchg | raden: update user set password=password("new password") where user='root'; |
| 10:45.15 | RichiH | hmm, i am having problems with iwcofig, orinoco cards & kernels 2.6.14/15 -- i am unable to give iwconfig any options, it always complains about that feature not bein supported |
| 10:45.17 | jetscreamer | for one |
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| 10:45.25 | rendi | not raden rendi :P |
| 10:45.27 | RichiH | is there sth to replace iwconfig or what do i do? |
| 10:45.34 | _joey | jetscreamer intarweb ? :) |
| 10:45.41 | xchg | rendi: sorry, fscked completion :-) |
| 10:45.43 | jetscreamer | internet |
| 10:45.46 | jetscreamer | http |
| 10:45.47 | muttix | luliana, i forgot : mv jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin /usr/java |
| 10:45.51 | xchg | rendi: flush privileges; |
| 10:45.52 | _joey | sure, there should be something on this usent that attracts so many people |
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| 10:45.58 | _joey | jetscreamer: I see |
| 10:46.07 | xchg | rendi: killall mysqld and then start is as usually |
| 10:46.13 | xchg | rendi: old trick :-) |
| 10:46.14 | jetscreamer | _joey: nntp i think... news |
| 10:46.24 | botsy | the patch for mosix and openmosix it's the same thing ? |
| 10:46.29 | jetscreamer | alt.binaries.whatever |
| 10:46.42 | _joey | jetscreamer: 999 |
| 10:46.43 | _joey | RemarQ Expands network to more than 1,000 Web sites and ISPs Raises $20 million in equity funding from Attractor Investment Management, |
| 10:46.50 | jm_ | _joey: most of those provide binary groups, where you can download all sorts of things |
| 10:46.51 | _joey | http://www.supernews.com/compinfo.html |
| 10:46.58 | Trewas | jetscreamer: all 2GB of memory works with linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7, luxury :) |
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| 10:47.19 | jetscreamer | i want to own uu.net |
| 10:47.40 | epsilon | go ahead |
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| 10:48.35 | jetscreamer | i wonder what would take more cash to own... uunet or msft |
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| 10:48.48 | yosef | jetscreamer: So how come it's not being used? |
| 10:48.56 | _joey | jm_ one ISP in our town is setting up usenet access to their customers by peering directly with supernews network. |
| 10:49.01 | jetscreamer | yosef: it doesn't need any? |
| 10:49.08 | _joey | People are talking about it like it's abig thing that's coming |
| 10:49.21 | jetscreamer | yosef: not sure, but i think that's why |
| 10:49.27 | jetscreamer | it's not like that other os |
| 10:49.55 | yosef | jetscreamer: my memory is being 100% used, but the swap 0.5%, make sense? |
| 10:49.58 | Gnea | ok, i think i found the problem |
| 10:50.13 | chugga | yosef, in that case maybe you should have a rest |
| 10:50.17 | Gnea | jetscreamer: m-a (module assistant) is crap, or i'm not reading the manpage right |
| 10:50.25 | yosef | chugga: a rest? |
| 10:50.27 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes, because linux kernel uses all free memory, but frees it up when needed.. do 'free' |
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| 10:51.04 | jetscreamer | buffers+cache == true free mem |
| 10:51.10 | jetscreamer | or so |
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| 10:52.01 | liable | nice, a linux dvd backupperer like dvd shrink. |
| 10:52.05 | yosef | jetscreamer: so linux is using 45% of my mem, and 0.5% of my swap, does this make sense? |
| 10:52.13 | Gnea | i can apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source=1.0.7676-2 nvidia-glx-dev=1.0.7676-2 but when i run m-a a-i nvidia it goes to download the latest |
| 10:52.14 | jetscreamer | yosef: yes |
| 10:52.20 | xchg | yosef: no, same here |
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| 10:52.33 | yosef | xchg: no? |
| 10:52.35 | Gnea | stupid module assistant |
| 10:52.38 | chugga | will etch minimal install only the minimal stuff you need to get going? no webservers etc? |
| 10:52.41 | jetscreamer | Gnea: i use the nvidia installer :o shhh don't tell anybody |
| 10:52.56 | jetscreamer | chugga: yes you have to tell it to install stuff |
| 10:52.59 | yosef | So why do I need swap? |
| 10:53.01 | Gnea | jetscreamer: i'm trying to use an older nvidia module the debian way |
| 10:53.07 | chugga | jelly-away, oh good |
| 10:53.09 | xchg | yosef: kernel tries to (re)use as much RAM as possible, swapping is rare |
| 10:53.16 | Jake | the latest version of postgres in sarges apt-get's thingo is only 7, if i want too install 8 .. whats my best path?? ie surely just downloading and installing manually without notifying apt is discouraged |
| 10:53.21 | Gnea | !swap |
| 10:53.21 | dpkg | well, swap is still a useful and good thing to have, even with lots of available memory: http://sourcefrog.net/weblog/software/linux-kernel/swap.html |
| 10:53.22 | jetscreamer | yosef: i didn't have any swap for a couple months |
| 10:53.34 | jetscreamer | you don't 'have' to have it, but it's nice to have if you do |
| 10:53.44 | yosef | why? because swap is slower? |
| 10:53.56 | Gnea | no, because your system could hardlock without it |
| 10:54.00 | xchg | yosef: when something large will be loaded, the unused portion will be dropped to swap device and the new stuff will substitute the freed memory |
| 10:54.29 | chugga | i have a swap partition. but i dont htink its being used. how cna i check? |
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| 10:54.41 | yosef | thanks a million xchg and jetscreamer... that was real helpful. |
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| 10:54.59 | xchg | yosef: you're welcome :-) |
| 10:55.07 | verso | hi guyz, i need ad information.. |
| 10:55.18 | verso | which mirror can i use to find gnome-core? |
| 10:55.25 | rootmos | is it possible to use ndiswrapper during an installtion? |
| 10:55.34 | verso | is there some how-to to install it? |
| 10:56.10 | epsilon | any mirror should have it |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | # mysqld -Sg --user=root & |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | [1] 18719 |
| 10:56.14 | rendi | kapolri:/home/admin# 060112 17:55:42 [ERROR] mysqld: unknown option '-%' |
| 10:56.47 | verso | epsilon: so why can't i find it? sorry.. i'm noob a lot!! |
| 10:56.56 | xchg | rendi: then try mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root |
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| 10:57.01 | pngwn | verso, apt-cache search gnome-core |
| 10:57.05 | epsilon | verso: nothing on "apt-cache search gnome-core"? |
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| 10:57.30 | deadline | what is the 'common' php package to have it available in apache2 ? |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | 060112 17:57:11 InnoDB: Started; log sequence number 0 43736 |
| 10:57.31 | rendi | mysqld: ready for connections. |
| 10:57.32 | rendi | and ?? |
| 10:57.35 | verso | sorry guyz.. what is apt-cache ? is just aptitude? |
| 10:57.39 | xchg | rendi: great |
| 10:57.42 | Jake | if i install postgres8 onto my system manually, is there something i need to tell apt? ie so it knows it exists? |
| 10:57.54 | rendi | ? it's error ? |
| 10:57.55 | xchg | rendi: now do mysql |
| 10:58.05 | epsilon | verso: man apt-cache |
| 10:58.07 | rendi | type mysql ? |
| 10:58.12 | xchg | rendi: yes |
| 10:58.13 | chugga | is there a way of checking if i have swap enabled? |
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| 10:58.21 | rendi | mysql |
| 10:58.25 | rendi | blank line |
| 10:58.26 | rendi | and |
| 10:58.26 | epsilon | read the manual and learn for the life |
| 10:58.32 | xchg | rendi: and type USE mysql; |
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| 10:58.44 | epsilon | chugga: free? |
| 10:58.48 | rendi | blank again and ? |
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| 10:59.16 | xchg | rendi: DESCRIBE mysql; - does it say something ? |
| 10:59.23 | chugga | epsilon, oh i see. so it seems it is being used |
| 10:59.24 | chugga | :) |
| 10:59.38 | pngwn | verso, http://debian.org/doc |
| 10:59.41 | rendi | ya don't say anything |
| 10:59.44 | rendi | blank |
| 10:59.56 | verso | pngwn: thank you.. i'll read it!!! :) |
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| 11:00.54 | xchg | rendi: then i just don't know what's happening there. you can give me an aceess and i'll fix it for you if you want, but it's quite unsecure :-) |
| 11:01.11 | rendi | blah |
| 11:01.19 | xchg | better idea |
| 11:01.21 | xchg | http://www.netadmintools.com/art90.html |
| 11:01.27 | xchg | read this fine manual :-) |
| 11:01.43 | rendi | ok |
| 11:02.01 | jetscreamer | verso: it's kind of a way to search for packages |
| 11:02.13 | jetscreamer | if not other things i don't know about |
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| 11:03.24 | jetscreamer | but apt-get install gnome-core should function |
| 11:03.48 | jetscreamer | or aptitude install gnome-core maybe (but i don't know how to use aptitude) |
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| 11:09.33 | rambo3 | dselect |
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| 11:09.46 | jetscreamer | rambo3++ |
| 11:10.12 | rambo3 | i just can figure how someone would put that on instal cd |
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| 11:11.16 | jetscreamer | i can't figure out why anybody would make aptitude instead of making dselect more pretty and enduser friendly |
| 11:11.30 | jetscreamer | but there's lots of wheels out there |
| 11:13.19 | boxy | jetscreamer, just run aptitude without any arugs |
| 11:15.20 | dusty- | How do I setup sound in debian? |
| 11:16.12 | muttix | install alsa-base and the you run alsaconf |
| 11:16.16 | xchg | dusty-: you want use ALSA or OSS ? |
| 11:16.28 | deadline | mdadm has to be added to the boot runlevel right? |
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| 11:17.45 | fireba11 | anyone knows a tool to monitor HD usage like top does for CPU and memory ? |
| 11:19.11 | _joey | could someone recommend news reader to download |
| 11:19.28 | _joey | I need it to be console based and suitable for downloading binaries :) |
| 11:19.32 | rambo3 | i fixed serial cable link , now what , where do i find shared folders . |
| 11:19.36 | xchg | _joey: slrn |
| 11:19.45 | xchg | _joey: the best & must have :-)) |
| 11:19.50 | epsilon | fireba11: gkrellm? |
| 11:19.59 | dusty- | xchg, Which do you recommend? |
| 11:20.11 | jetscreamer | boxy: i forgot to mention how much i don't like aptitude :/ |
| 11:20.25 | xchg | dusty-: i would like recommend alsa |
| 11:20.37 | jetscreamer | even i finally am an alsa convert |
| 11:20.48 | dusty- | xchg, Ok, then alsa it is :) |
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| 11:21.07 | xchg | dusty-: oss is pretty old architecture for now IMHO |
| 11:21.11 | xchg | (but stable :-) |
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| 11:21.24 | ootput | there's always alsa-oss |
| 11:21.24 | dusty- | xchg, Ahh I see. |
| 11:21.26 | ootput | :) |
| 11:21.29 | ootput | or aoss |
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| 11:21.37 | dusty- | xchg, How would I configure sound using Alsa then? |
| 11:21.45 | jm_ | fireba11: gkrellm |
| 11:21.45 | xchg | dusty-: just run alsaconf |
| 11:21.51 | jetscreamer | alsaconf is in alsa-base |
| 11:21.55 | jetscreamer | or alsabase |
| 11:21.57 | dusty- | thankyou |
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| 11:22.01 | xchg | dusty-: it will do all the work for you in 99% of cases |
| 11:22.24 | dusty- | thanks alot. |
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| 11:22.32 | xchg | you're welcome :-) |
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| 11:23.45 | fireba11 | jm_ will have a look, thanks |
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| 11:25.00 | fireba11 | jm_ no good ... need sonething for headless server, so no window manager present |
| 11:25.06 | jm_ | fireba11: iostat should also help |
| 11:25.14 | jm_ | fireba11: you can use gkrellm for that too |
| 11:26.45 | incorrect | i was using a tool that gave me a view of the system usage, can't think what it was called |
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| 11:27.05 | fireba11 | jm_ okay .. *researching* |
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| 11:27.47 | Gnea | ok, bug report submitted. |
| 11:27.59 | jetscreamer | heh |
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| 11:28.29 | Gnea | !dbugs #343186 |
| 11:28.32 | dpkg | #343186:[nvidia-kernel-source] nvidia-kernel-source 8174 Fails to load proper with 2.6.1[234]; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:03:08 UTC |
| 11:28.32 | jetscreamer | hey what's the name of the program that makes a hash of your password so you can put it in a text conf file |
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| 11:28.53 | Gnea | htpasswd? |
| 11:28.59 | mo1991 | what is a good tracert program for debian - |
| 11:29.02 | twb | I'm making a package that needs to know little/big endianness and 32/64 bitness. How can I test for these in debian/rules? |
| 11:29.06 | Gnea | traceroute |
| 11:29.15 | jetscreamer | no just for mail not apache.. or was that an answer |
| 11:29.36 | Gnea | jetscreamer: it has multiple uses |
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| 11:29.50 | Gnea | if the hash is what you're after then htpasswd can provide it |
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| 11:30.55 | jetscreamer | it's in the apache2-utils... |
| 11:31.11 | jetscreamer | !depends apache2-utils |
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| 11:31.59 | jetscreamer | there was another i used once a year ago i think |
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| 11:32.24 | jm_ | mkpasswd, or perl -e ... or ... |
| 11:33.10 | dpkg | apache2-utils: depends on libapr0 (>= 2.0.55), libc6 (>= 2.3.5-1), libdb4.3 (>= 4.3.28-1), libexpat1 (>= 1.95.8), libldap2 (>= 2.1.17-1), libpcre3 (>= 4.5), libssl0.9.8, zlib1g (>= 1:1.2.1) |
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| 11:35.07 | fooz | modeling hands is hard |
| 11:35.12 | jetscreamer | yes it is |
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| 11:35.42 | vl_bright_again | hi |
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| 11:38.10 | dvm1981 | it's the ATI i would like to get working and not the NVidea |
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| 11:38.23 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 11:38.23 | Gnea | bam |
| 11:38.23 | xchg | blah |
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| 11:38.24 | xchg | dvm1981: have ati working here. what's the prob ? |
| 11:38.37 | sussudio | fucketyfuck |
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| 11:38.46 | ootput | netsplit? |
| 11:38.52 | xchg | dvm1981: 9650, xorg 6.9 |
| 11:38.59 | dvm1981 | xchg: it work not right, the 3D are not one i have see |
| 11:39.14 | dvm1981 | xchg: 9600SE Xfree (Stqble) |
| 11:39.22 | x-x- | anyone has composite enabled? i'm wondering if the syncs(v+h) are required for composite to work correctly |
| 11:39.31 | xchg | dvm1981: wait a moment, i'll pastebin my config |
| 11:39.42 | dvm1981 | xchg: :-0 |
| 11:39.46 | bobbens | xchg: you using the r300 driver? |
| 11:39.51 | deadline | does anybody know why apache2 doesnt have a DocumentRoot entry in apache2.conf ? |
| 11:39.55 | dvm1981 | xchg: txh :-) |
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| 11:39.58 | bibe | xchg : is 9650 based on chip RV350 |
| 11:39.59 | bibe | ? |
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| 11:40.15 | x-x- | deadline: look close, it might be linked to another include file |
| 11:40.21 | x-x- | *closer |
| 11:40.25 | bibe | deadline : it's set in /etc/apache2/sites-available/default, I guess |
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| 11:40.31 | krystalino | how to install MrProject ? |
| 11:40.33 | x-x- | yea |
| 11:40.37 | x-x- | i think so too |
| 11:40.40 | deadline | cant i just declare it in apache2.conf ? |
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| 11:40.46 | [EaK|HC]Konky | how can i access a usb storage device when i just know the hotplug variables (DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/002/026) |
| 11:40.58 | bibe | krystalino : apt-get install mrproject? |
| 11:41.23 | bibe | deadline : you can have multiple virtual hosts, each pointing to different DocumentRoot locations |
| 11:41.26 | krystalino | bibe, i don't find it :/ wich repo do you have ? |
| 11:41.27 | [EaK|HC]Konky | Anyone ? |
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| 11:41.30 | dvm1981 | It's really nice here, but first i drink my cup of coffe while i see you here :-) |
| 11:41.37 | [EaK|HC]Konky | it looks like the 2.4 kernel is not able to do that |
| 11:41.45 | bibe | krystalino : sarge |
| 11:41.46 | [EaK|HC]Konky | it just assigns a scsi device "blind" |
| 11:41.59 | xchg | dvm1981: http://pastebin.com/502214 |
| 11:41.59 | jm_ | [EaK|HC]Konky: so? |
| 11:42.07 | xchg | dvm1981: but erm..nothing special here as i found |
| 11:42.08 | krystalino | bibe, ok. Do you see it on sarge ? |
| 11:42.16 | dvm1981 | xchg: :-) Really thankx |
| 11:42.21 | [EaK|HC]Konky | so i search for anyone who had experience with that and might know something |
| 11:42.23 | xchg | dvm1981: also don't forget to modprobe agpgart before startx |
| 11:42.30 | bibe | yes, it's in sarge main |
| 11:42.37 | jm_ | the device appears in logs, then there's /proc/partitions |
| 11:42.38 | dvm1981 | xchg: I work on it now ;-) |
| 11:42.46 | dvm1981 | xchg: That i not know |
| 11:42.56 | [EaK|HC]Konky | ok : but i already got 2 usb sticks inserted |
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| 11:43.03 | [EaK|HC]Konky | i insert a 3rd stick, and now need to know where it is |
| 11:43.03 | fantomas | Where to get latest firefox for sarge? |
| 11:43.07 | dvm1981 | xchg: If that whas my previous problem ? |
| 11:43.09 | xaxes|free | @work :P |
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| 11:43.14 | bibe | fantomas : www.backports.org |
| 11:43.16 | jm_ | that doesn't change what I said |
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| 11:43.18 | [EaK|HC]Konky | sda-sdf |
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| 11:43.20 | xchg | the interesting thing - my ati, including the 3d worked directly out-of-box |
| 11:43.23 | botsy | any body know what's the package content libproc_la-devname.lo ? |
| 11:43.25 | [EaK|HC]Konky | yes, but it does not help |
| 11:43.32 | [EaK|HC]Konky | proc partitions just lists the known partitions |
| 11:43.38 | jm_ | "just" ... |
| 11:43.47 | xchg | 1287 FPS or what on glxgears |
| 11:43.48 | [EaK|HC]Konky | but there is no connections between DEVICE=/proc/bus/usb/002/026 and scsi/host4/bus0/target0/lun0/part1 |
| 11:43.56 | bobbens | xchg: what resolution and depth are you using? |
| 11:44.03 | jm_ | eww devfs |
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| 11:44.23 | bibe | krystalino : apt-cache show mrproject says : Since version 0.11, Mr.Project is developped by Imendio and called Planner |
| 11:44.27 | fantomas | bibe: thanks |
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| 11:44.43 | warhead | I have ftp backup server, I need stat by ip upload |
| 11:44.44 | bibe | fantomas : no problem |
| 11:44.55 | warhead | Any bandwidth by ip? |
| 11:45.25 | jm_ | tools like iptraf, darkstat, ntop can help you with that |
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| 11:45.48 | jm_ | or even jnettop |
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| 11:46.22 | krystalino | bibe, ok, thank you :) |
| 11:46.57 | warhead | jm_ > iptraf after 24h in background eat my memory, darkstat don't register all ip adress, ntop don't have stat for example stat of month or day |
| 11:47.11 | dvm1981 | To automatically load modules ? Where to change the config file ? for 'modprobe agpart' in '/etc/modules.conf' ? Adding a line (agpgart)to this file ? |
| 11:47.18 | xchg | bobbens: 1280*1024*24bit |
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| 11:47.32 | jm_ | warhead: you can use IP accounting for usch purposes |
| 11:47.40 | jm_ | dvm1981: man modules |
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| 11:47.43 | bobbens | xchg: really? i'm having problems getting 3d to work at that resolution... if it works for you it should for me, gonna keep trying |
| 11:47.55 | xchg | dvm1981: just add agpgart to /etc/modules |
| 11:48.07 | dvm1981 | jm_: found |
| 11:48.19 | warhead | jm_ any package for ip accounting ?!?!? |
| 11:48.24 | xchg | bobbens: the only thing i found in 3d quirking - is not to overusing driver-shipped options in config |
| 11:48.36 | warhead | jm_ name of program for ip accouting? |
| 11:48.41 | xchg | bobbens: lesser options defined - more stable it will work :-) |
| 11:48.43 | jm_ | warhead: not that I know, you do it by adding iptables rules, but then you have to do whatever you want with the counters |
| 11:48.44 | jetscreamer | thanks jm_ btw |
| 11:48.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx for the confirmation, having some doubts |
| 11:48.57 | bobbens | xchg: could be :), i have all the options defined almost |
| 11:49.37 | xchg | bobbens: i have _none_ of them :-) |
| 11:49.51 | bibe | warhead : 'apt-cache search ip accounting' shows "net-acct - User-mode IP accounting daemon" |
| 11:50.04 | bobbens | xchg: yeah i saw, you even just use ati as the driver... gonna try imitating your config see how it works :) |
| 11:50.12 | warhead | jm_ > My bandwith is too high,I need seek what is problem. |
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| 11:50.29 | xchg | bobbens: you can also try that "Proprietary ATI driver" shit from ATI |
| 11:50.36 | xchg | but i couldn't get it to work |
| 11:50.38 | bobbens | xchg: but does defining two devices actually work? I find that with one alone it works |
| 11:50.47 | bobbens | xchg: bah i dont want kernel tainting trash |
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| 11:51.35 | xchg | bobbens: didn't tried ever, just wrote the second head by hand |
| 11:51.35 | xchg | bobbens: currently i have no need for the second/third head |
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| 11:52.07 | jm_ | warhead: if it's about FTP then try to use a FTP daemon that can log transfers, i.e. vsftpd has such option |
| 11:52.34 | smo_ | hi, how can i do to test if /dev/seq for exmple exist , in a bash script to get a usable return ? |
| 11:52.35 | bobbens | xchg: well off to try it |
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| 11:53.36 | jm_ | smo_: the fact that the file is there doesn't mean it will work |
| 11:53.49 | smo_ | yeah |
| 11:53.57 | smo_ | just o know if it exist or not |
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| 11:54.07 | jm_ | man test |
| 11:54.15 | smo_ | k |
| 11:54.18 | dvm1981 | xchg: I waiting that some things has done in the my virtual pc, so that i can reboot and test. Thx ;-) |
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| 11:54.39 | mo1991 | is there a traceroute program that will actually trace a route on a map - I used to have one for windows? |
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| 11:55.32 | nerdy2 | trace a route on a map? |
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| 11:55.59 | jetscreamer | one of the general alternate ports for smtp, if your isp is blocking 25, is 587 is it not? |
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| 11:56.08 | nerdy2 | you mean you want to translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result? |
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| 11:56.35 | nerdy2 | (or you could just get them to unblock 25 :)) |
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| 11:58.10 | xchg | dvm1981: you're welcome :-) |
| 11:58.23 | nerdy2 | but ya 587 is the "message submission" port (rfc 2476) |
| 11:58.25 | dvm1981 | xchg: yhx :-) |
| 11:58.33 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx :-) |
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| 11:59.10 | qweo | hi |
| 11:59.20 | bobbens | xchg: you're right, works alot better without advanced options, going to try different tests to see if it works, i heard pageflipping gives a nice fps boost |
| 11:59.21 | EdLin | nerdy2: gmail can use 587 |
| 11:59.41 | EdLin | nerdy2: also gmail never uses 22, because they use TLS |
| 11:59.49 | EdLin | nerdy2: er, 25 |
| 11:59.58 | xchg | bobbens: now you can try to enable options one by one, and at the end you'll find the option broking everythin |
| 11:59.58 | dusty- | hrm why doesn't scp file.tgz dusty@192.168.0.4:/home/dusty work? |
| 12:00.06 | xchg | nah, gotta eat something |
| 12:00.11 | qweo | can anybody give URL where i can download Debian SID ISO (for amd64 or x86)? |
| 12:00.13 | nerdy2 | EdLin, you can use TLS on 25 ?? |
| 12:00.19 | EdLin | nerdy2: no |
| 12:00.27 | qweo | (not jigdo) |
| 12:00.28 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - yes I was looking to turn the traceroute output to geographical locatiosns |
| 12:00.29 | bobbens | xchg: yup, thanks alot :) |
| 12:00.29 | EdLin | nerdy2: read what I said again |
| 12:01.09 | sep | !does not work |
| 12:01.09 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 12:01.20 | EdLin | qweo: there are no sid ISOs |
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| 12:01.27 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - yes translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result |
| 12:01.47 | cusco | hi! I have had a problem while trying to install qmail.. something is wrong with my hosts |
| 12:02.08 | cusco | Your hostname is velhadas. ; hard error ; Sorry, I couldn't find your host's canonical name in DNS. ; You will have to set up /var/qmail/control/me yourself. |
| 12:02.24 | ttick | anyone know how to resolve this apt-get update error: W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org testing Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F |
| 12:02.35 | EdLin | ttick: /topic |
| 12:02.43 | jm_ | ttick: yes many people can, especially those that read the topic |
| 12:02.53 | nerdy2 | EdLin, i read what you said, you said they never use 25, "because they use TLS", and i said that TLS & using port 25 are not incompatible |
| 12:02.59 | ttick | okay, I asked dpkg first, and he didn't know about it. thanks |
| 12:03.19 | EdLin | nerdy2: well, in theory you could put it on 25. But that would be non-standard |
| 12:03.25 | nerdy2 | EdLin, no it wouldn't |
| 12:03.26 | mo1991 | nerdy2 - do you know of a program that does this - translate the hops into geographic locations and map the result |
| 12:03.36 | nerdy2 | EdLin, maybe you mean smtp&ssl |
| 12:03.38 | mo1991 | or not even map the result |
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| 12:03.58 | jm_ | mo1991: geoip-bin can help with translation of hops |
| 12:04.00 | mo1991 | it should be able to do this by ip range correct |
| 12:04.27 | jetscreamer | is overwriting custom config files a serious violation of debian policy, or just a normal bug |
| 12:04.31 | sep | mo1991, traceroute+geoip+ some fancy bash |
| 12:04.55 | sep | mo1991, if your very fancy you could feed google maps the result :) |
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| 12:05.17 | mo1991 | traceroute+geoip+ |
| 12:05.24 | __YENA__ | hello, please, someone could help me with apt preference file ? i would like to exclude the upgrade of my kernel |
| 12:05.27 | mo1991 | this is a program which combines the two? |
| 12:05.29 | mo1991 | sep? |
| 12:05.36 | mo1991 | a bash script i mean |
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| 12:06.03 | jetscreamer | thanks, nerdy2 |
| 12:06.03 | jetscreamer | btw |
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| 12:06.27 | dvm1981 | I reboot and come back ;-) Testing the 3D of ATI... |
| 12:06.39 | xchg | dvm1981: tell me about results :-) |
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| 12:06.58 | dvm1981 | xchg: Thx :-) |
| 12:07.17 | aimtrainer | Hi! When I try to send an email with an attachment with thunderbird it tells me attaching the file failed. Does anyone have an idea why? Sorry for the missing details but the error message is not very precise. I tried to send via 3 emailadresses... |
| 12:07.32 | sep | mo1991, a bash script you have to write yes. |
| 12:07.52 | sep | aimtrainer, you have read access to this file ? |
| 12:08.13 | __YENA__ | i have try it: Package: kernel-image Pin: version=2.6.8-2-386 Pin-Priority: -1 .. but it doesn't work :-( |
| 12:08.31 | mo1991 | sep, k thanks |
| 12:08.37 | dusty- | Can someone help me with this strange problem, I type the command: scp c0d3.tar.gz dusty@192.168.0.4:/home/dusty/ and it times out.. I have ssh running on port 22, any ideas? |
| 12:08.44 | dusty- | ssh: connect to host 192.168.0.4 port 22: Connection timed out |
| 12:08.44 | dusty- | lost connection |
| 12:08.49 | xchg | __YENA__: i'm not sure, but i guess you can set keep flag to specific package in aptitude |
| 12:09.15 | aimtrainer | sep yea |
| 12:09.17 | xchg | __YENA__: IMHO it isn't a best idea to modify apt.conf to exclude the only package from upgrade |
| 12:09.57 | nerdy2 | EdLin, the TLS service extension for SMTP is rfc 3207 (obsoleting 2487), (which is a "proposed standard"), and widely implemented, it's hardly "non-standard" |
| 12:10.18 | caphuso | EdLin: TLS are handled exactly the same for SMTP and submission services |
| 12:10.24 | xchg | __YENA__: yeah, you should set Hold flag to a specified package in aptitude |
| 12:10.34 | nerdy2 | what you might mean to say is that running smtp&ssl on 25 is nonstandard (i.e. not beginning TLS with a negotiation begun with STARTTLS, but just wrapping the entire thing in SSL) |
| 12:10.45 | __YENA__ | ok Hold flag in aptitude |
| 12:10.47 | nerdy2 | which is true, but that's a very old (obsolete) way to do things |
| 12:10.52 | __YENA__ | ... i try thanks |
| 12:10.52 | caphuso | nerdy2: ssmtp |
| 12:10.54 | quad3datwork2 | might be a stupid question... is all package server down or something? can't search, can't install, can't apt-get update |
| 12:10.55 | xchg | np |
| 12:11.04 | nerdy2 | caphuso, ya, there had to be a name for it :) |
| 12:11.12 | nerdy2 | caphuso, unfortunately i'm not good with names :) |
| 12:11.28 | rendi | helpppppppp |
| 12:11.30 | djp | why do i get small box-like icons appear for certain letters in my web browser? |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | # /etc/init.d/apache2 start |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | Starting apache 2.0 web server...apache2: bad user name www-data |
| 12:11.31 | rendi | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:11.36 | rendi | i have been del www-data |
| 12:11.37 | caphuso | nerdy2: it's a stupid name anyway. we don't use shttp and sftp either :) |
| 12:11.38 | rendi | ? |
| 12:11.42 | rendi | any help wil apreciate |
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| 12:11.53 | rendi | ? |
| 12:11.54 | EdLin | nerdy2: maybe that's what I meant to say. |
| 12:11.54 | caphuso | nerdy2: (ok, we do use sftp, but not in the ftp-over-ssl sense) |
| 12:12.33 | nerdy2 | i can remember a time when shttp was more common :) |
| 12:12.33 | dvm1981 | To test if my 3D are active i do 'glxinfo | grep direct' ? |
| 12:12.40 | rendi | ? |
| 12:12.42 | rendi | any one ?? |
| 12:12.54 | nerdy2 | it was always a fun game too: is this url an shttp or https one? :) |
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| 12:13.00 | dvm1981 | direct rendering: No |
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| 12:13.00 | dvm1981 | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
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| 12:13.22 | dvm1981 | No 3D i think :-( |
| 12:13.39 | quad3datwork2 | rendi: vipw and see if you have a user www-data |
| 12:13.41 | nerdy2 | dvm1981, no hardware accelerated 3d, no |
| 12:14.10 | dvm1981 | :-( |
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| 12:14.21 | rendi | no |
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| 12:14.32 | rendi | there is no www-data when i type that |
| 12:14.37 | nerdy2 | dvm1981, on the plus side, maybe you just have to set it up with some black magic in your X config ;) |
| 12:14.48 | dvm1981 | xchg: Are you there ? |
| 12:14.54 | rendi | how to get come back ? |
| 12:15.08 | dvm1981 | nerdy2: I do VooDoo on it because i will test ... |
| 12:15.09 | quad3datwork2 | as far as i know... debian defaultly have www-data regardless |
| 12:15.11 | metho | how do u setup NAT in Debian |
| 12:15.56 | dvm1981 | rendi: Format C: Windows people says :-) |
| 12:16.23 | rendi | so it meant format my woody |
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| 12:16.40 | dvm1981 | rendi: No man ;-0 |
| 12:16.42 | xchg | dvm1981: more or less |
| 12:16.51 | quad3datwork2 | heh, he said 'format my woody' |
| 12:16.56 | dvm1981 | xchg: I think is not working |
| 12:17.03 | nerdy2 | metho, you use iptables as usual, you can put the relevant rules in /etc/network/if-up.d (and if-down.d) |
| 12:17.08 | kimo | a fat32 partition is failing & winblows cant read it. Any recommended data recovery tools ? |
| 12:17.10 | xchg | dvm1981: bad luck, what does lsmod say ? |
| 12:17.36 | dvm1981 | xchg: I us Paste ... |
| 12:17.40 | xchg | dvm1981: agpgart 31400 2 drm,intel_agp |
| 12:17.40 | xchg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:19.02 | dvm1981 | agpgart 34536 1 sis_agp |
| 12:19.05 | sep | rendi, just make the user. on sarge it's something like www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh |
| 12:19.10 | xchg | dvm1981: and drm ? |
| 12:19.20 | xchg | dvm1981: does it say anything about drm ? it DOES matter |
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| 12:19.37 | dvm1981 | xchg: i not find it i think, i look good |
| 12:19.41 | djp | can anyone recommend a peer-to-peer client to run under debian? |
| 12:19.43 | dvm1981 | xchg: re look |
| 12:19.46 | rendi | echo 'www-data:x:33:33:www-data:/var/www:/bin/sh' >> /etc/passwd ?? |
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| 12:20.06 | rendi | or /etc/shadow |
| 12:20.14 | xchg | dvm1981: modprobe radeon, modprobe drm, modprobe agpgart |
| 12:20.29 | xchg | dvm1981: and please tell me kernel version you're using |
| 12:20.32 | dvm1981 | xchg: long list, but is not there, i do it |
| 12:20.34 | Knight_Lord | I have a disk with bad sectors. I runned the seagate tools on it and the tool said that it was able to reallocate the sectors. The disk is part of a RAID array. I put the disk back on the array and soon enough it failled. What are the assumptions made when the blocks are marked as "bad". Does the linux md stuff knows about bad blocks? |
| 12:20.40 | Knight_Lord | Does it assumes some kind of filesystem? |
| 12:20.54 | xchg | dvm1981: i use 2.6.15-1-686 here, with earlier versions i had troubles |
| 12:20.54 | dvm1981 | How i can look that in cli ? |
| 12:20.57 | djp | is gnunet popular? |
| 12:20.59 | xchg | dvm1981: uname -a |
| 12:21.15 | dvm1981 | Linux neptune 2.6.8-2-k7 #1 Tue Aug 16 14:00:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 12:21.25 | xchg | xchg: quite old :-) |
| 12:21.28 | rendi | sep ? |
| 12:21.33 | xchg | dvm1981: is it AMD box ? |
| 12:21.37 | rendi | are u listen to me ? |
| 12:21.44 | sep | rendi, no use adduser/useradd that was just a sarge example |
| 12:21.48 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, no, it's usually done in hardware |
| 12:21.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes |
| 12:21.59 | xchg | dvm1981: modprobe radeon, modprobe drm, modprobe agpgart |
| 12:22.06 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 okay so it should be totally transparent on the software side right? |
| 12:22.08 | sep | rendi, noi dont listen to anyone spesific. just answer when i happen to see something answerable |
| 12:22.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Okidoki ;-) |
| 12:22.11 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, yes |
| 12:22.18 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 so the bad blocks i found should be "new" bad blocks |
| 12:22.23 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, ya |
| 12:22.29 | xchg | dvm1981: if 2.6.8 _DOES_ have radeon :-) i'm not sure... |
| 12:22.39 | rendi | but |
| 12:22.44 | rendi | like this |
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| 12:22.45 | rendi | # adduser www-data |
| 12:22.45 | rendi | adduser: The group `www-data' already exists. |
| 12:22.51 | rendi | :(( |
| 12:22.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: I not good understand |
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| 12:23.20 | xchg | dvm1981: i mean i'm not sure 2.6.8 kernel have these modules, who know.. |
| 12:23.44 | sep | Knight_Lord, most drives have a spare part for internal reallocation of badblocks also. when the os detects badblocks it's usualy time to replace (iirc the article i read it in ) |
| 12:23.58 | nerdy2 | heh, i was gonna say the same thing sep just said, but he typed faster |
| 12:24.01 | dvm1981 | I hqve do modprobe and he say nothings |
| 12:24.10 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have do modprobe and he say nothings |
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| 12:24.20 | __YENA__ | please i can remove the hold status in aptitude ? |
| 12:24.23 | nerdy2 | things are just gonna get worse, back up your data and replace the drive |
| 12:24.30 | xchg | dvm1981: http://pastebin.com/502241 |
| 12:24.31 | Knight_Lord | sep i'm just wondering if this spare sectors are completely transparent to the OS |
| 12:24.38 | xchg | dvm1981: it's output of my lsmod |
| 12:24.43 | rendi | # deluser www-data |
| 12:24.44 | nerdy2 | Knight_Lord, yes, they are done by the firmware in the drive |
| 12:24.44 | rendi | /usr/sbin/deluser: The user `www-data' does not exist. |
| 12:24.50 | rendi | wtf with my system ??? |
| 12:25.05 | xchg | dvm1981: 17,18,30,31 lines |
| 12:25.09 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 oka, i'm not entirely sure i found bad sectors actually, it's just that the raid rebuild failled |
| 12:25.11 | rendi | i tipe cat /etc/passwd there is no www-data there |
| 12:25.12 | jm_ | rendi: nothing, it only said that group www-data already exists ... |
| 12:25.40 | xchg | dvm1981: if you have these modules (except intel_agp) loaded - it should work |
| 12:25.43 | Knight_Lord | nerdy2 i'm gonna try to run badblocks on it again, unfortunately it takes about 2 days to finish because it's a 400GB :-( |
| 12:25.55 | rendi | so the pass for www-data ? |
| 12:26.00 | rendi | blank or ? |
| 12:26.17 | metho | hi could you tell me how to restict users from specific web sites using debian |
| 12:26.19 | xchg | dvm1981: you have to use sis-agp instead of intel-agp |
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| 12:26.23 | dvm1981 | xchg: Coppiing info (file) before forget and check :-) |
| 12:26.29 | jm_ | metho: proxy |
| 12:26.31 | sep | set it to x in /etc/passwd |
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| 12:26.57 | jm_ | sep: that won't help if he's using shadow passwords (and it's default for www-data anyway) |
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| 12:27.32 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i need to add also these modules to '/etc/modules.conf' and reboot ? |
| 12:27.39 | Nick1 | i have a VFAT sata drive i just dropped in a windows xp box and xp has done a check disk and didnt like alot of data on it....is there a a way to get them back and b a way to stop it happening |
| 12:27.42 | Knight_Lord | Has anyone use the "raid5 proactive replacement" patch? http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=linux-raid&m=113159296010960&w=2 |
| 12:27.47 | xchg | dvm1981: probally so, in the next order: |
| 12:27.58 | jetscreamer | no, /etc/modules... |
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| 12:28.09 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 12:28.15 | xchg | dvm1981: sis-agp, agpgart, radeon, drm |
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| 12:28.48 | jetscreamer | sis-agp will suck agpgart in |
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| 12:28.57 | sep | jm_, on woody ? |
| 12:29.02 | metho | can anyone tell me where to get free file server software for debian |
| 12:29.04 | dvm1981 | xchg: I set this lint 'sis-agp, agpgart, radeon, drm' on the bottem of the file ? |
| 12:29.12 | jeffrin | we are planning to start a linux company |
| 12:29.17 | dvm1981 | Nice nice nice |
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| 12:29.24 | xchg | jetscreamer: dunno, to be honest, it HAVE to suck everything in even on our previous try, but it don't |
| 12:29.25 | jm_ | sep: yes, it should still default to have invalid password |
| 12:29.40 | xchg | dvm1981: one module - one line |
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| 12:29.55 | rendi | sep_ |
| 12:30.04 | rendi | www-data:x:1001:1001:,,,:/home/www-data:/bin/bash <== this is correct ?? |
| 12:30.05 | dvm1981 | xchg: thx for the pressision, i was on the bad way... |
| 12:30.10 | jetscreamer | metho: file server software? like what? |
| 12:30.48 | jeffrin | dvm1981 : any suggestions |
| 12:30.48 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i needs to reboot to t'check ? |
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| 12:30.51 | jetscreamer | xchg: have him try lsmod |
| 12:31.02 | hawking | setxkbmap tr gives Error loading keyboard description How can i fix that? |
| 12:31.06 | xchg | jetscreamer: alredy did, no success...something strange |
| 12:31.13 | sep | jm_, point was that the user www-data was not generated |
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| 12:31.18 | xchg | dvm1981: you can modprobe them from console too |
| 12:31.29 | jm_ | sep: yes, and it also told him why not |
| 12:31.31 | dvm1981 | jeffrin: I going to reboot, i setup somethings that someone help me here :-) |
| 12:31.48 | xchg | dvm1981: /etc/init.d/module-init-tools |
| 12:31.57 | sep | jm_, ahh didn't know that |
| 12:32.03 | xchg | dvm1981: it'll load everything in /etc/modules w/o restart |
| 12:32.07 | jeffrin | dvm1981 : proceed |
| 12:32.10 | dvm1981 | xchg: I don't know this |
| 12:32.15 | jm_ | sep: > rendi: nothing, it only said that group www-data already exists ... |
| 12:32.31 | metho | i am suppose to setup one server as file server, and i wonder what u need for that |
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| 12:32.35 | rendi | jm_ ? |
| 12:32.43 | jm_ | rendi ! |
| 12:32.53 | dvm1981 | jeffrin: ;-) So ask here, there are so many people that help others here, so don't esithate to ask here... |
| 12:32.54 | rendi | so del group www-data ? |
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| 12:33.03 | rendi | and my system back to normal ? |
| 12:33.04 | jeffrin | ok |
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| 12:33.18 | azeem | so I can choose an HTTP proxy for GAIM, however, at least here, I cannot connect through it |
| 12:33.22 | jeffrin | some please help me to start a linux company |
| 12:33.28 | azeem | is anybody using GAIM via HTTP proxy (for ICQ)? |
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| 12:33.40 | jm_ | yes, as long as you ensure it won't cause any harm - i.e. if some files are owned by group www-data, then re-adding it later may result in different GID and that could cause problems for you |
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| 12:33.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: Iqfter this i must go to look to document my about the '/etc/init.d/module-init-tools' because i don't know this thing |
| 12:34.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i reboot to test ? |
| 12:34.03 | xchg | dvm1981: just type /etc/init.d/module-init-tools |
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| 12:34.14 | xchg | dvm1981: don't care..reboot |
| 12:34.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ha, learning :-) |
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| 12:35.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes he have done some things |
| 12:35.23 | xchg | dvm1981: but you have to restart xserver too |
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| 12:35.36 | xchg | dvm1981: ctrl-alt-backspace |
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| 12:36.05 | dvm1981 | xchg: Comming back ;-) RE thankx for the help :-) |
| 12:36.12 | xchg | you're welcome :-) |
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| 12:36.47 | metho | any idea of setting debian as file server |
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| 12:37.31 | dbi | metho: file server serving files to whom? windows or unix? |
| 12:37.37 | dvm1981 | xchg: Im back |
| 12:37.45 | xchg | dvm1981: it was fast :-) |
| 12:37.54 | Konky | anyone ever wroked with the usb-storage source ? |
| 12:37.55 | dvm1981 | xchg: AMD |
| 12:37.58 | dvm1981 | :-) |
| 12:38.07 | xchg | dvm1981: SIS chipset..suck :-) |
| 12:38.20 | dvm1981 | xchg: and .... Debian :-) |
| 12:38.41 | LoRe | man, what's going on in unstable, there are every day 200 packages to upgrade :) |
| 12:38.46 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have do 'glxinfo | grep direct' |
| 12:38.48 | metho | dbi: other debian clients!!! |
| 12:38.54 | dvm1981 | direct rendering: No |
| 12:38.54 | dvm1981 | OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect |
| 12:38.55 | metho | dbi: Linux |
| 12:39.08 | xchg | dvm1981: for example... |
| 12:39.09 | dvm1981 | So i think, the ATI here is not nice today |
| 12:39.24 | xchg | dvm1981: glxgears i use usually |
| 12:39.37 | aimtrainer | I cant find a deb package of thunderbid 1.5 anywhere -does any1 of you have n idea? |
| 12:39.39 | dbi | metho: then NFS is the obvious choice. install nfs-user-server and read exports(5) |
| 12:39.42 | xchg | dvm1981: it makes a sense to know if everything is working fine |
| 12:39.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes that works fine |
| 12:39.54 | xchg | dvm1981: FPS ? |
| 12:39.56 | jm_ | but probably slow |
| 12:40.10 | metho | dbi: ok 1 min |
| 12:40.17 | dvm1981 | xchg: FPS ?? |
| 12:40.29 | diana | error: 'Access denied for user 'root'@'localhost' (using password: NO)' |
| 12:40.31 | xchg | dvm1981: how much fps glxgears give out ? |
| 12:40.36 | diana | I want to "mysqladmin drop cacti" |
| 12:40.47 | diana | I know the mysql admin password...but how do I login? |
| 12:40.54 | xchg | dvm1981: i have 6369 frames in 5.0 seconds = 1273.789 FPS |
| 12:41.00 | xchg | dvm1981: nice result for me :) |
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| 12:41.09 | dvm1981 | xchg: Where you see that ? |
| 12:41.17 | xchg | dvm1981: just run glxgears from terminal |
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| 12:41.24 | xchg | dvm1981: and see the terminal output |
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| 12:41.34 | dvm1981 | xchg: A yes, im ... today |
| 12:41.42 | dvm1981 | 1024 frames in 5.0 seconds = 204.800 FPS |
| 12:41.42 | dvm1981 | 1240 frames in 5.0 seconds = 248.000 FPS |
| 12:41.49 | metho | dbi: how do i read the exports (5) for configrations |
| 12:41.59 | xchg | dvm1981: better than nothing |
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| 12:42.07 | AgentJ87 | hi all |
| 12:42.14 | metho | dbi: how do i run nfs |
| 12:42.15 | dvm1981 | xchg: But thats not good i think ? |
| 12:42.24 | xchg | dvm1981: definitely not good |
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| 12:42.33 | AgentJ87 | how do i run rn a check sfv |
| 12:42.42 | AgentJ87 | how do i run a check sfv ? |
| 12:42.42 | jm_ | cfv |
| 12:42.45 | dbi | metho: first install package nfs-user-server, then read the manual page for exports |
| 12:42.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: So what's happend with my stuff ? |
| 12:42.50 | xchg | dvm1981: hm, don't you want to upgrade you kernel ? i had sad issues with 3d befor 2.8.15 i'm using right now |
| 12:42.54 | wizzomafizzo | Do I need to enable something before I can monitor my battery? |
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| 12:43.06 | AgentJ87 | jm_ cfv file.sfv ? |
| 12:43.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Need i use i recenter kernel ? |
| 12:43.20 | jm_ | AgentJ87: man cfv |
| 12:43.25 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 12:43.31 | xchg | dvm1981: apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 |
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| 12:44.06 | xchg | xchg: old kernel will be renamed to LinuxOLD |
| 12:44.07 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok :-) thx upgrade now |
| 12:44.30 | xchg | xchg: and follow the advices it'll tell you |
| 12:44.39 | xchg | dvm1981: specially about initrd.img |
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| 12:45.41 | dvm1981 | xchg: i see now better |
| 12:46.00 | xchg | damn, so many problems with graphcards...we definitely need to start something with it :-) |
| 12:46.37 | xchg | auto-configurer or something like that |
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| 12:46.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: He could't find the package |
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| 12:46.54 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 12:46.58 | xchg | dvm1981: stable distribution ? |
| 12:47.00 | jetscreamer | !ati |
| 12:47.00 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseAti |
| 12:47.04 | dvm1981 | xchg: yes |
| 12:47.14 | jetscreamer | what happened to the horrors of ati factoid |
| 12:47.16 | xchg | dvm1981: unstable here...:/ |
| 12:47.19 | Shadur | jetscreamer: [13:33] <jeffrin> some please help me to start a linux company |
| 12:47.21 | dvm1981 | xchg: Testing ? |
| 12:47.22 | mejo | why are apache rewrite-rules which are configured in sites-enabled/000-default true for all virtualhosts, and not only for the ones not configured in sites-enabled/anything-but-default? |
| 12:47.55 | jetscreamer | jeffrin should learn asterisk and sell pbx's |
| 12:48.05 | xchg | dvm1981: follow the link jetscreamer told |
| 12:48.09 | diana | How can I delete a database in mysql? |
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| 12:48.20 | mejo | i have a "RewriteRule ^/.* /index.html" in sites-enabled/000-default, and now all virtualhosts have this rewrite rule, even the ones that have own virtualhost configurations. |
| 12:48.21 | diana | I want to "mysqladmin drop cacti" but it says root@localhost doesn't have permissions. |
| 12:48.22 | jetscreamer | #mysql ? |
| 12:48.25 | jm_ | diana: drop it, it's explained in MySQL docs |
| 12:48.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: But i have do some test to migrate to testing, and some days ago a have luck in do that and understand how to do it, i have also take note of is so i will be upgrade soon to testing |
| 12:48.54 | diana | jm_: yes that's where I read to do it..mysql docs...but it says root@localhost doesn't have permission |
| 12:49.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok |
| 12:49.09 | diana | jm_: I know the root password for mysql..but I'm not sure how to allow root@localhost to do stuff. |
| 12:49.09 | xchg | dvm1981: oh, i didn't want to force you to migrate |
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| 12:49.24 | xchg | dvm1981: it's the worst thing you can ever do IMHO ;-) |
| 12:49.54 | jm_ | diana: that is also covered by the manual - I don't know it off top of my head |
| 12:50.12 | dvm1981 | xchg: No, no but i would like it of it to do but first i had some trouble to migrate to because i don't know first how to, but i have learned and will do it |
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| 12:51.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: I have tested in virtual pc's and works fine, personally i would like to go to testing here, im in testing in my virtual pc, my 2 servers these i hold in s stabe |
| 12:51.25 | xchg | dvm1981: unstable is very stable btw, but sometimes you'll meet the problems like broken package depedencies |
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| 12:52.10 | metho | hello, i am Linux noob, i want to restrict sex sites on my computer cos my little cousion uses it all the time and i wonder what could be done to achieve this task |
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| 12:52.25 | xchg | dvm1981: the site gives the answer why everything works fine here and doesn't work at your machin...unstable here and stable at your side |
| 12:52.29 | jm_ | I have already told you - use a proxy |
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| 12:52.39 | metho | dbi: oh btw thanks for ur help!! i got it working |
| 12:52.42 | xchg | dvm1981: The unstable branch of Debian has the newer xserver-xorg (X.org X server), and this implementation has better support for Radeon cards, including 3d acceleration for many of them. Some ATi users may have better results using X.org than using fglrx. There is also a backport of the X.org X server for sarge, at http://people.debian.org/~nobse/xorg-x11/ -- see ConfiguringX for details. Your mileage may vary. |
| 12:52.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i understand, that its really not easy to troubleshoot, but i would like to learn, i have 25 years and have 7 years IT experience made by my |
| 12:53.16 | xchg | dvm1981: it means you're at you own now, i have not any experience with stable :) |
| 12:53.24 | xchg | dvm1981: but feel free to ask anytime |
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| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | jm_ i read the man cfv and i got this.... cfv -f -M --progress yes BONUS_DISC.sfv |
| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | -M : No such file or directory (CF) |
| 12:53.45 | AgentJ87 | 0 files, 0 OK, 1 chksum file errors. 0.001 seconds, 0.0K/s |
| 12:53.49 | dbi | metho: you're welcome |
| 12:53.52 | dvm1981 | xchg: I understand |
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| 12:54.13 | dvm1981 | xchg: But testing is same as unstable, i need a cup coffe |
| 12:54.32 | AgentJ87 | any ideas anyone |
| 12:54.33 | AgentJ87 | ? |
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| 12:54.39 | metho | jm_: i am noob and i dont know how to configure a proxy or which proxy to download etc |
| 12:54.40 | user__ | hi |
| 12:54.45 | jm_ | AgentJ87: read it again and notice how -f switch requires an argument - also read how you can use it with no options |
| 12:54.45 | dvm1981 | going to take a cup coffe. I would like to give on someone or mail one ;-) |
| 12:54.49 | user__ | what module should i load to have /dev/dsp device? |
| 12:54.58 | jm_ | metho: install it first, I recommend privoxy or dansguardian |
| 12:55.14 | jm_ | user_: are you using ALSA? |
| 12:55.14 | xchg | user_: snd-pcm-oss |
| 12:55.35 | user__ | xchg thanks |
| 12:55.37 | xchg | np |
| 12:55.38 | user__ | it worked |
| 12:55.43 | user__ | jp_ yes i am |
| 12:56.34 | dbi | user_: you better say to your program to use alsa, oss is deprecated. of cource, the program in question may not support alsa, in which case... snd-pcm-oss :) |
| 12:56.35 | metho | jm_: i'll install privoxy |
| 12:57.01 | user__ | dbi many programs do not support alsa |
| 12:57.10 | jm_ | metho: then you have to configure his web browser to always use your proxy, or setup transparent proxying |
| 12:57.14 | user__ | in moust case games |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | jm_ i see it says if -f is used then...-f file |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | Specify the name of the checksum file to test or create. If |
| 12:57.24 | AgentJ87 | file is -, stdin (for -T) or stdout (for -C) will be used. |
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| 12:57.52 | jm_ | AgentJ87: no need to paste it here |
| 12:58.00 | AgentJ87 | whats does i mean when "file is -" |
| 12:58.27 | AgentJ87 | jm_ imma bit confused |
| 12:58.31 | jm_ | it means it will read it from stdin, but don't worry about that, it seems too advanced for you for now |
| 12:58.37 | jm_ | AgentJ87: no shit |
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| 12:58.52 | henriko | anyone know if LVREDUCE is supposed to take a reaaaally long time? |
| 12:59.21 | AgentJ87 | jm_ to avoid more further dumb questions can u givve an example of what i should typee |
| 12:59.23 | metho | jm_: i have installed the privoxy, what do i do next |
| 12:59.32 | jm_ | metho: I have already told you |
| 12:59.39 | jm_ | AgentJ87: follow my other advice |
| 12:59.48 | AgentJ87 | which is? |
| 13:00.06 | metho | jm_: how do u setup transparent proxy? |
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| 13:00.16 | jm_ | read it again please, I told you to read about two things in cfv man page |
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| 13:00.34 | debiankid | hellow to all ++ :) |
| 13:00.48 | AgentJ87 | <jm_> AgentJ87: read it again and notice how -f switch requires an argument - also read how you can use it with no options |
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| 13:00.50 | jm_ | metho: that's explained in various howtos, I'm not going to explain it on IRC |
| 13:00.50 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 13:00.51 | dvm1981 | I a little bit confused 'testing' is the same thing as 'unstable' ? |
| 13:01.10 | metho | jm_: any website links? |
| 13:01.11 | azeem | dvm1981: it is not |
| 13:01.17 | AgentJ87 | so cfv -f file |
| 13:01.21 | AgentJ87 | or |
| 13:01.24 | AgentJ87 | cfv * |
| 13:01.25 | dvm1981 | ok |
| 13:01.30 | crypt_ex | how do I put processes in the background, log out of ssh and then log back in and see process again? |
| 13:01.30 | metho | jm_: i am linux noob, so i require special attention |
| 13:01.34 | jm_ | metho: I don't have any, but it's easy to find |
| 13:01.44 | dvm1981 | :-) i must look the difference a links ? |
| 13:01.45 | jm_ | no that's not without arguments |
| 13:01.57 | azeem | dvm1981: what are you looking for, what is your problem? |
| 13:02.01 | jm_ | crypt_ex: screen or dtach |
| 13:02.11 | crypt_ex | thanks jm_ :) |
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| 13:02.31 | AgentJ87 | cfv -r -m -u |
| 13:02.35 | dvm1981 | azeem: The difference version stable, testing, ... |
| 13:02.38 | AgentJ87 | ? |
| 13:02.40 | jm_ | do you know what arguments are? |
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| 13:03.01 | AgentJ87 | in this case no |
| 13:03.04 | cplx | Hi, I have redhat installed atm on this box, and I have a directory "/storage" where I have important files.. say if I want to install debian on this same hard disk how would I go about it without deleting this directory? |
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| 13:03.15 | jm_ | AgentJ87: you need to read about the basics first |
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| 13:03.33 | azeem | dvm1981: http://www.debian.org/releases/ |
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| 13:03.52 | AgentJ87 | this is so complex yet simple |
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| 13:04.00 | AgentJ87 | wish i could see thru my errors |
| 13:04.18 | dvm1981 | azeem: Really thx, thats what i search 'releases' ;-) |
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| 13:04.34 | adept | anyone here with nvidia video card and lockups with 8178 drivers? |
| 13:04.35 | dvm1981 | azeem: When i dont know what to search ... |
| 13:04.40 | jetscreamer | cplx: just don't 'format' or initialize the partition |
| 13:04.41 | jm_ | arguments are -r -m -u ... - so read through the EXAMPLE section, you clearly didn't read the man page at all |
| 13:04.45 | dvm1981 | azeem: ;-0 |
| 13:04.48 | AgentJ87 | ok |
| 13:04.50 | AgentJ87 | i did it |
| 13:04.51 | _joey | is it possible to run gui applications on remote server, disconnect from the server and leave the application running ? |
| 13:04.57 | jm_ | adept: works for me at home |
| 13:05.03 | jm_ | _joey: yes |
| 13:05.04 | AgentJ87 | jm| cfv -f file is workin |
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| 13:05.08 | _joey | how ? |
| 13:05.12 | dvm1981 | Gooing to read nice info on the web, thx to all people who |
| 13:05.15 | jm_ | AgentJ87: "cfv" alone would work too |
| 13:05.22 | Viper12 | adept, running them on ubuntu box and has been smooth as silk. |
| 13:05.22 | dvm1981 | spled his times for others ... |
| 13:05.24 | jm_ | X-Ray, NX, xmove ... |
| 13:05.39 | adept | jm_, Viper12: which kernel? with agpgart or without? any special options to module/xserver? |
| 13:05.51 | _joey | jm_: are these applications ? |
| 13:06.07 | jm_ | adept: 2.6.12.3 IIRC - I don't use agpgart, I use their own AGP support, no special options |
| 13:06.10 | xchg | had anyone tried Xgl server yet ? |
| 13:06.21 | xchg | lazy to compile :-) |
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| 13:06.28 | jm_ | _joey: more or less yes |
| 13:06.51 | adept | jm_, Viper12: it may be my notebook, but with those drivers all I got is a hard lockup split second after I start X. |
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| 13:07.17 | _joey | jm_: xmove - allows you to move programs between X Window System displays |
| 13:07.20 | AgentJ87 | ty jm for help |
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| 13:07.23 | _joey | I only found this one in cache |
| 13:07.32 | cplx | jetscreamer |
| 13:07.33 | _joey | could briefly describe how it works please |
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| 13:07.41 | cplx | jetscreamer: then it will elave the rest of redhats crap? |
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| 13:08.05 | sewi | I need gnome-conig commend to compile a gnome program under KDE so I have to install a debian package which include this commend but how to get to know it where gnome-config command is? |
| 13:08.24 | sewi | s/gnome-conig/gnome-config |
| 13:08.55 | AgentJ87 | next question |
| 13:09.00 | dvm1981 | xchg: Are you there ? |
| 13:09.03 | AgentJ87 | how do i extract rars |
| 13:09.19 | xchg | dvm1981: more or less |
| 13:09.29 | dvm1981 | xchg: hi hi |
| 13:09.30 | xchg | dvm1981: watching Back to the future 2 right now :-) |
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| 13:09.43 | xchg | dvm1981: any success ? |
| 13:09.45 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) |
| 13:10.23 | dvm1981 | xchg: I reading some things here on the Debian website and thingking about migration, drink my cup coffee ... |
| 13:10.41 | xchg | dvm1981: edit your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 13:10.47 | xchg | dvm1981: change stable to unstable |
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| 13:10.56 | takatumi | sewi: /msg dpkg search |
| 13:10.57 | dvm1981 | xchg: I hope that there are a solution when i migrate to Testing |
| 13:11.01 | xchg | dvm1981: run apt-get update; apt-get upgrade;apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 13:11.09 | xchg | dvm1981: then change to testing |
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| 13:11.25 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes i know, but ATI works in testing ? |
| 13:11.37 | xchg | dvm1981: have no idea... unstable here |
| 13:11.46 | jm_ | _joey: man page explains it |
| 13:11.51 | xchg | dvm1981: being a dirty nerd i prefer unstable :-) |
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| 13:11.56 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: make sure that you actually do want to use etch or sid (testing or unstable) before you actually upgrade |
| 13:12.02 | AgentJ87 | jm{ last question is there a man for rars |
| 13:12.05 | jm_ | adept: try going through troubleshooting section in README.gz file |
| 13:12.06 | AgentJ87 | how to extract |
| 13:12.06 | AgentJ87 | ? |
| 13:12.11 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i have no experiece in unstable, i test i before in a virtual pc, so ... |
| 13:12.14 | jm_ | AgentJ87: sure, man rar ;) |
| 13:12.23 | AgentJ87 | k |
| 13:12.27 | jetscreamer | AgentJ87: rar -x iirc, or just use unrar |
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| 13:12.36 | AgentJ87 | lemme check it out o i can ask an intelligent question |
| 13:12.41 | xchg | dvm1981: the only thing i can say - unstable is for home, stable is for production servers |
| 13:12.54 | xchg | some packages in stable are just too...stable. and old. |
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| 13:13.57 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, you have convienc my to test unstable man :-0 look at you're movie and i rejoin you ;-) |
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| 13:14.36 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i will prepare i pc in a virtual pc here so i can begin to install a new machinge and begin to test with it |
| 13:14.37 | xchg | dvm1981: ok :-) if you're will experience troubles with ldconfig (and you will i thing) just contact me |
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| 13:14.54 | xchg | s/thing/think |
| 13:15.20 | dvm1981 | xchg: So i wi |
| 13:15.34 | sewi | takatumi: thanks |
| 13:16.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: Really thx, i end my cup coffe and begining to install stable then migrate to unstable ... |
| 13:16.59 | xchg | there's an interesting thing durning upgrading from stable to unstable (at least occups here) - ldconfig doesn't work and apt returns an error |
| 13:16.59 | xchg | it's due libc upgrade i guess |
| 13:17.15 | xchg | solution: remove /sbin/ldconfig, then do echo "exit" >> /sbin/ldconfig; chmod +x /sbin/ldconfig |
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| 13:18.01 | xchg | after upgrade sucessed just copy a working copy of ldconfig from /var/cache/apt/packages/libc-blabla.deb to /sbin/ |
| 13:18.09 | dvm1981 | xchg: yes i remember that i have receive that and that was my faill and where i have aborted to go more ... |
| 13:18.35 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: you don't have to install stable first |
| 13:18.38 | POVaddct | xchg: dangerous. you might end up with a broken ld.so.cache file. |
| 13:18.59 | POVaddct | xchg: so only libs in /lib will be found |
| 13:19.02 | xchg | POVaddct: after that _WITHOUT_ restarting the man should run ldconfig |
| 13:19.08 | dvm1981 | xchg: I hope my chatlog works fine and he record all here ... to many things i will note, thx guys ;-) |
| 13:19.22 | xchg | in case of restart there's a chance to search for rescue-cd |
| 13:19.22 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: interesting |
| 13:19.38 | POVaddct | xchg: okay. but if you forget to put the new ldconfig in /sbin, you are f**ked |
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| 13:19.52 | xchg | dvm1981: the best way to copy a working ldconfig from libc..deb is midnight commander (mc) |
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| 13:19.54 | dvm1981 | Also first i would like to check if my chatlog record all these infor here on these irc. |
| 13:20.06 | POVaddct | xchg: yeah. cd bootable systems can fix that of course. |
| 13:20.07 | xchg | POVaddct: yes. by the way it's only the dirty hack |
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| 13:20.14 | dvm1981 | xchg : yes i like mc ;-) |
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| 13:20.44 | xchg | POVaddct: i didn't found another quick workaround, so have to use this durning stable->unstable upgrades |
| 13:21.00 | POVaddct | xchg: okay |
| 13:23.01 | deeLer | i've created a class in CUPS and i still can't print from another machine with lpd, i can't even telnet to port 515 .. any ideas? |
| 13:23.08 | dvm1981 | My xchat log been al these info here, that's a good thing to know, no more stress to note all these usefull info. |
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| 13:23.55 | debiankid | hey bud why my apache give me forbidden everytime i upload files to my webserver? |
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| 13:24.20 | xchg | debhelper: access rights. chmod 777 /path/to/the/file/file |
| 13:24.35 | xchg | or any other right |
| 13:24.37 | sewi | normally in pool directory in debian repository there are .deb .orig.tar.gz diff.gz and .dsc files. I want to build manually gs-common package but in pool repository I can find only .dsc and .tar.gz files. So how the .deb file was built only from these packages? |
| 13:24.43 | dvm1981 | jetscreamer: Can you tell me more about migration from Stable to unstable without beginning from stabe ? |
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| 13:25.09 | debiankid | xchg yes but everytime i change from my computer a web or something the permision change |
| 13:25.22 | epsilon | and if you use 777 for upload, make sure the site is protected with password |
| 13:25.28 | debiankid | and i have to do again and again chmod -R 775 * |
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| 13:25.43 | xchg | debiankid: by ftp ? |
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| 13:26.05 | debiankid | well i dont have an ftpdaemon installed on my server |
| 13:26.07 | xchg | debiankid: if so you need to edit you ftp config for upload access rights |
| 13:26.25 | epsilon | debiankid: then install FTP, better than upload via http |
| 13:26.42 | epsilon | FTP is one of basic service if you want to transfer files |
| 13:26.55 | xchg | proftpd for example... |
| 13:27.00 | debiankid | epsilon i upload via smb , but as you sd i m going to install ftp daemon |
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| 13:27.03 | xchg | or vsftpd for extreme security |
| 13:27.17 | debiankid | vsftpd |
| 13:27.18 | xchg | debhelper: the edit samba for access permissions |
| 13:27.20 | epsilon | smb? you work local or remote? |
| 13:27.32 | debiankid | i work local to remote |
| 13:27.52 | debiankid | i edit my files locally and upload to the webserver via smb |
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| 13:28.04 | epsilon | debiankid: if unsure how to configure Samba, install SWAT |
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| 13:28.35 | xchg | debiankid: add create mask=755 to [blabla] stanza |
| 13:28.45 | xchg | debhelper: in samba config |
| 13:28.56 | day_cho | woi |
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| 13:29.06 | debiankid | ok let me do that |
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| 13:29.36 | dvm1981 | I have 2 monitors on one video card. These two works in duplicated mode, i would like to have slit these two so that on the left monitor i use it for the irc and for the Usenet, virtual pc window. How to ? im in Stable, ATI, no 3D |
| 13:30.24 | nevyn | no 3d? |
| 13:30.32 | nevyn | what card? |
| 13:30.53 | dvm1981 | nevyn: ATI readeon 9600SE |
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| 13:31.07 | justdust | hello everyone |
| 13:31.26 | justdust | ? |
| 13:31.29 | dvm1981 | I would like to split the view and not duplicate, so i see not the use of it now |
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| 13:31.49 | stew | dvm1981: have you tried following the xinerama howto? |
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| 13:31.52 | cusco | hi.. is anyone here using exim4 and sa-exim ?? |
| 13:31.56 | dvm1981 | justdust: hello |
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| 13:32.05 | nevyn | dvm1981: mergedfb can do it. |
| 13:32.06 | cusco | Restarting MTA: 2006-01-12 13:31:54 Exim configuration error in line 687 of /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated.tmp: option "local_scan_path" unknown |
| 13:32.18 | nevyn | dvm1981: it's the way you want to do it even |
| 13:32.20 | dvm1981 | stew: yes, i have i my bookmarks i retry |
| 13:32.36 | MrMazda | I just did my first install of any pure Debian (etch), including Gnome and KDE. But, there is no login manager enabled, and I'm not having any luck finding out how to enable one so far on http://necrotic.deadbeast.net/xsf/XFree86/trunk/debian/local/FAQ.xhtml or http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/ConfiguringX or anywhere else. :-( |
| 13:32.59 | justdust | I just installed debian with KDesktop, I'd like to know how I can update my video driver... Video is crappy, resolution is ok... |
| 13:33.02 | stew | dvm1981: put your XF86Config-4 in a pastebin |
| 13:33.08 | kreg_work | anyone ever used a radius server for authenticaion? i want to use one for dialup useres, but i have no idea what to do with an iptables firewall to sit locally on the same box. |
| 13:34.00 | dvm1981 | stew: yep, but i have retry several times and i think now there is not trace about it. Because i have do somethings whrong at a moment and have do restore that file |
| 13:34.27 | xchg | kreg_work: what favour of radius you're using ? |
| 13:34.39 | xchg | kreg_work: i've used xtradius and it worked fine |
| 13:34.42 | sep | MrMazda, you mean a grafical login ??? apt-get install [xdm|gdm|kdm|wdm|pdm|sdm] pick one . |
| 13:34.46 | nevyn | justdust: how exactly is video crappy? |
| 13:34.55 | dvm1981 | stew: Thx for the suggestion, i will now redo the steps indicate in the 'xinerama howto' and let it know about it ;-) |
| 13:35.07 | debiankid | hey thanks |
| 13:35.18 | justdust | nevyn: When I watch video the screen lags... |
| 13:35.18 | kreg_work | xchg, the radius service works, but i want to put a firewall on the box now. |
| 13:35.27 | kreg_work | radiusd 1.5.5 |
| 13:35.28 | nevyn | justdust: what player are you using?? |
| 13:35.30 | MrMazda | sep: I thought kdm was part of kdebase? |
| 13:35.30 | kreg_work | er |
| 13:35.31 | justdust | xine |
| 13:35.31 | kreg_work | 1.6.6 |
| 13:35.40 | nevyn | justdust: how fast is your machine? |
| 13:35.56 | justdust | nevyn: AMD 1200Mhz |
| 13:36.05 | kreg_work | xchg, if i do a "iptables -P INPUT DROP" i can't seem to figure out what needs to be opened for this kind of server. |
| 13:36.16 | jm_ | MrMazda: no, kdebase merely recommends kdm |
| 13:36.43 | xchg | kreg: 1812, 1813 are radius ports (usually) |
| 13:37.00 | xchg | xchg: but users have nothing to do with them |
| 13:37.03 | kreg_work | xchg, would any icmp's need to be allowed? |
| 13:37.05 | petemc | kreg_work: grep radius /etc/services |
| 13:37.14 | nevyn | justdust: and you're running a k7 kernel? |
| 13:37.17 | kreg_work | petemc, that's not the concern |
| 13:37.27 | xchg | kreg_work: it depends. if you're using interim accounting - then maybe |
| 13:37.47 | xchg | kreg_work: interim means radius server will check the user persistence every given amount of time |
| 13:37.56 | xchg | kreg_work: every 5secs for example |
| 13:37.58 | MrMazda | sep: thx :) |
| 13:38.07 | justdust | nevyn: sorry man, I'm really a noob... I know I chose the 2.6 kernel, nothing more... |
| 13:38.11 | sep | MrMazda, no only recomends |
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| 13:38.30 | kreg_work | xchg, well when i put a firewall up, and allow in the input table any service listening on the box, the users get a "timeout" error when they dail in durring the authentication |
| 13:39.00 | justdust | nevyn: I took a i386 netinstall, that ain't wrong, right ? |
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| 13:39.47 | xchg | kreg_work: no way. outside users have nothing to do with radius. radius is just authetication scheme, out of many others. It will communicate (locally) with pppd (in your case) and decide to allow or not allow the user in |
| 13:40.00 | xchg | kreg_work: but it never will speak with the users directly |
| 13:40.10 | kreg_work | xchg, right. hmmmm |
| 13:40.13 | nevyn | justdust: yep you got a 2.6 kernel.. and that's great.. it's compiled for 386 |
| 13:40.33 | kreg_work | xchg, basically all i can imagine needing is an ESTABLISHED,RELATED state rule and let lo -j ACCEPT |
| 13:40.53 | justdust | but 386 hasn't got anything to do with Intel or AMD right... |
| 13:40.55 | kreg_work | should be all i need |
| 13:41.10 | nevyn | so it's still lowest common denominator.. it's designed to get you up and running but you want to install a kernel compiled for k7 |
| 13:41.33 | crypt_ex | with screen, is it ctrl+A to close the screen? |
| 13:41.37 | nevyn | justdust: well the code runs on both.. |
| 13:41.42 | nevyn | crypt_ex: ctrl-a c |
| 13:41.51 | chexov | #vim |
| 13:41.54 | nevyn | crypt_ex: or just exit the shell |
| 13:41.58 | justdust | nevyn: ok, now that I know what I want, how do I proceed ? ;) |
| 13:41.59 | jm_ | crypto;info screen |
| 13:42.12 | xchg | kreg_work: in xtradius i used several years ago was a great scripting ability. It worked via perl. In your case i would write hmm...let's call it "on-user-login.pl" script which includes user's IP to iptables, and "on-user-out" which acts vice-versa, e.g. excludes |
| 13:42.16 | nevyn | justdust: apt-cache search kernel-image |
| 13:42.26 | justdust | thx man ! |
| 13:42.30 | xchg | kreg_work: but i don't know how the things working in radiusd |
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| 13:42.46 | justdust | bbiab... |
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| 13:43.01 | tarzeau | i hate acrobat and pdf |
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| 13:43.09 | nevyn | justdust: I wouldn't go just yet.... |
| 13:43.15 | kreg_work | xchg, thanks i'll keep playing |
| 13:43.28 | nevyn | sigh 00:45 I should sleep... |
| 13:43.28 | justdust | no ? |
| 13:43.41 | xchg | kreg_work: you're welcome. btw, also you can play with pppd scripts too. just pass iptable-ing to them |
| 13:43.42 | nevyn | justdust: that just gives you a list of the availible kernels.. |
| 13:43.47 | nevyn | pick one that says k7 |
| 13:43.50 | crypt_ex | nevyn, cant use exit because of the process I just started. ctrl-a & c creates new screens? |
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| 13:44.01 | justdust | cache search, apt-get it, crash, reboot with net install, welcome to my world... |
| 13:44.08 | nevyn | crypt_ex: if you want to DETACH the screen it's ctrl-a d |
| 13:44.18 | nevyn | crypt_ex: detach != close |
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| 13:44.25 | nevyn | close == end process |
| 13:44.30 | crypt_ex | thanks nevyn |
| 13:44.37 | justdust | thx nevyn, I'll go aned have a look... |
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| 13:45.14 | crypt_ex | nevyn, oopps, no I dont want to close it.... I want it left running? |
| 13:46.09 | wolaoye | i had skype installed but lost it after installation of other packages. it requires libqt3c102-mt which apt reports as obsoleted and being replaced by libqt3-mt. how to go around this? |
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| 13:46.36 | justdust | nevyn: kernel-image-2.6-k7 - Linux kernel image for version 2.6 on AMD K7. looks good ? |
| 13:46.38 | stew | wolaoye: /msg dpkg skype |
| 13:46.46 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 13:47.01 | justdust | I'm going to patch my kernel, I ROCK ! |
| 13:47.08 | xchg | justdust: linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 looks better :) |
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| 13:47.23 | stew | justdust: if you are going to patch it you don't want an image, you want source, what patch? |
| 13:47.26 | justdust | xchg: where do I find that one ? |
| 13:47.35 | stew | justdust: that one is for unstable, not stable |
| 13:47.39 | xchg | justdust: erm.... stable ? |
| 13:47.53 | epsilon | "I'm going to patch my kernel" <-- one of the famoust "last words" |
| 13:47.56 | xchg | justdust: if stable then sorry, nothing |
| 13:47.59 | justdust | stew: I'm using linux scince 1 hour ;) |
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| 13:48.39 | justdust | epsilon: I'll survive... |
| 13:48.55 | epsilon | then you probably don't want to compile own kernel yet |
| 13:49.07 | stew | justdust: if you just mean you are going to replace your kernel, you don't mean patch, and you'll survive |
| 13:49.08 | justdust | otherwise I'll just come back by iirc as root ;) |
| 13:49.21 | xchg | why not, it's a great challenge to every linux newbie |
| 13:49.29 | xchg | helps to understand a lot of things :) |
| 13:49.33 | kanzaki | alooo |
| 13:49.48 | justdust | so I just apt-get the kernel image ? |
| 13:50.03 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 13:50.05 | diana | "Sorry, but this board is currently unavailable. Please try again later." I get this when I go to mywebsite/phpbb ... where in the administration panel do I start phpbb? |
| 13:50.06 | wolaoye | stew: what does the dpkg mean? i have a skype---.deb. i can't install it with 'dpkg -i" due to dependency problem. |
| 13:50.08 | epsilon | pre compiled kernel image by debian is more safe for you |
| 13:50.18 | stew | !tell wolaoye about skype |
| 13:50.21 | justdust | ok, thx, bbiab, (or not)... |
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| 13:50.48 | stew | wolaoye: dpkg is a bot, just sent you info, try apt-getting a "static qt" version from debian-unoficial |
| 13:50.53 | peope | Should you still use gcc 2.95 for kernel compilation? (2.6.15) |
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| 13:51.32 | wolaoye | stew: the thing is this .deb that i downloaded from skype site was installed and working before. |
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| 13:52.07 | stew | wolaoye: yes, this is the same one just with the qt libraries statically compiled since they are no longer on your machine |
| 13:52.10 | gnubien | anyone got a deb initrd/alsa file they can post to pastebin.ca? want to see how alsa is stopped and restarted with that script if its readable ;) |
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| 13:52.53 | wolaoye | stew: ok, got u. so the qt lib was somehow removed. |
| 13:53.06 | stew | wolaoye: no, upgraded |
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| 13:53.43 | wolaoye | stew: true, that is more accurate. |
| 13:53.55 | justdust | hmm, didn't get any errors, should I reload something, reboot *ducks*... |
| 13:54.01 | stew | wolaoye: it was replaced by a newer, but incompatible version that would require to have recompiled skype sometime in the last few months but aparantly they haven't |
| 13:54.12 | takatumi | peope: worked fine with 4 here |
| 13:54.15 | stew | justdust: leave the ducks alone, reboot the computer |
| 13:54.38 | justdust | ok, going down... |
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| 13:56.02 | debiankid | hey pple debian supports dhcp- as server? |
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| 13:56.43 | beardy | debiankid: You can install and run a dhcp server, yes. |
| 13:57.01 | debiankid | really? |
| 13:57.12 | beardy | debiankid: Of course. |
| 13:57.26 | stew | debiankid: apt-cache search dhcp server |
| 13:57.50 | xchg | dhcp3-server will be the bet |
| 13:57.51 | debiankid | i have a samba running as pdc-server in the same server / if i install dhcp in the same machine can i get in trouble ? |
| 13:58.22 | xchg | debiankid: no. these're different things |
| 13:58.23 | stew | debiankid: it wouldn't matter if your dhcp server were the same as the samba server, no |
| 13:58.50 | debiankid | stew uff thanks |
| 13:59.06 | debiankid | stew i can install dhcp safety now i think |
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| 14:03.29 | debiankid | xchg bud i cant find dhcp server in apt-cache search |
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| 14:04.00 | Matt-H | debiankid: there's a package called "dhcp" which is the server |
| 14:04.13 | xchg | debiankid: apt-get install dhcp3-server |
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| 14:04.26 | stew | debiankid: what version of debian? |
| 14:04.38 | debiankid | stew debian 3.1 sarge |
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| 14:05.04 | azreal | anyone know if a recent or current testing netinstall cd will do a pppoe connection yet or not? |
| 14:05.23 | stew | debiankid: your sources.list must be messed up if you don't find anything with "apt-cache search dhcp server", you should paste it somewhere for us to look or run apt-setup |
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| 14:05.40 | stew | azreal: probably since the current stable can |
| 14:05.46 | justdust | I'm back... |
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| 14:05.56 | azreal | stew: from the smaller cd, and not CD 1? |
| 14:06.00 | xchg | apt-cache search dhcpd |
| 14:06.02 | xchg | should work |
| 14:06.31 | justdust | my box seems to boot faster, but video is still laggy... |
| 14:06.31 | stew | xchg: and "apt-cache dhcp server" should not? |
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| 14:06.43 | stew | azreal: from any, read the install guide |
| 14:06.44 | xchg | stew: unstable here. say nothing |
| 14:06.47 | debiankid | stew apt-cache search appears this |
| 14:06.50 | frbn | hi all |
| 14:06.56 | debiankid | dhcp-client - DHCP Client |
| 14:07.07 | debiankid | dhcpcd - DHCP client for automatically configuring IPv4 networking. |
| 14:07.15 | xchg | stew: i'm wrong. dhcp-server say nothing. dhcp server says something |
| 14:07.17 | debiankid | d |
| 14:07.32 | debiankid | xchg them ? |
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| 14:07.38 | azreal | stew: k, last time i was messing with it did not work. so, thanx. |
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| 14:07.59 | stew | justdust: what chipset do you have? which driver are you using? |
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| 14:08.09 | xchg | debiankid: nope |
| 14:08.11 | stew | azreal: must have been a long time ago |
| 14:08.24 | xchg | debiankid: dhcp3-server or dhcpd you need |
| 14:08.30 | stew | !info dhcp sarge |
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| 14:08.30 | xchg | not dhcpcd |
| 14:08.32 | dpkg | dhcp: (DHCP server for automatic IP address assignment), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0pl5-19.1 (sarge), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 304 kB |
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| 14:08.49 | stew | apt-cache search dhcp server should have definately found at least that ^^^^ |
| 14:09.06 | stew | (since dhcp server aree the first two words of the description especially) |
| 14:09.12 | xchg | stew: hm, update -ing issues ? |
| 14:09.25 | stew | no, sarge doens't get new packages |
| 14:09.25 | debiankid | grrr i have to update again my server ? |
| 14:09.26 | azreal | stew: well, it was before sarge release. |
| 14:09.34 | justdust | stew: hehehe, good question, it's a laptop, so I can't just open it up and look, but I believe it's a via chipset... |
| 14:09.47 | frbn | I need a dpkg guru. I juste broke my slink on dec-alpha (libc6 upgrade :\) I can acces the / partition using a rescue system. I would like to restore a minimal system (brute force) but dpkg-deb man page says: "extracting a package to the root directory will not result in a correct installation". Is this right for the base and admin packages ? Is there another way. ps: I can't boot a live cd :] |
| 14:09.47 | stew | justdust: lspci | grep VGA |
| 14:09.49 | xchg | Stereo: strange, strange... |
| 14:09.49 | jetscreamer | lsp... nm |
| 14:09.56 | xchg | blah...stew i meant |
| 14:10.08 | stew | frbn: slink!?! |
| 14:10.13 | frbn | 2.1 |
| 14:10.19 | xchg | why, slink was great :-) |
| 14:10.21 | beardy | frbn: Why are you running slink? |
| 14:10.29 | xchg | good old times... |
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| 14:10.31 | jetscreamer | cuz he can? |
| 14:10.33 | jm_ | frbn: it's typically enough to just extract the libc6 package, you can fix the rest after it boots |
| 14:10.39 | frbn | I just got an alpha station 21164 |
| 14:10.51 | frbn | jm_ : thnx. will try now |
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| 14:10.57 | debiankid | stew i think i have to download the .deb |
| 14:11.08 | stew | debiankid: don't, fix your sources.list |
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| 14:11.19 | debiankid | stew how? |
| 14:11.30 | xchg | debiankid: edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:11.36 | stew | debiankid: apt-setup |
| 14:11.37 | xchg | then do apt-get update |
| 14:11.39 | beardy | jetscreamer: Do you think that is a valid reason for doing things? I can do a lot.. |
| 14:12.02 | jetscreamer | beardy: yes, to answer your loaded question... :) |
| 14:12.12 | justdust | stew: via82cxxx ? |
| 14:12.26 | xchg | !info apt-setup sid |
| 14:12.37 | jm_ | frbn: are you upgrading to unstable perhaps? |
| 14:12.41 | stew | xchg: its not in sid |
| 14:12.51 | debiankid | the main stable is not security.debian.org ? |
| 14:12.54 | jetscreamer | slink->sid? |
| 14:12.56 | jetscreamer | omg |
| 14:13.05 | justdust | stew: can I pm you my lspci ? |
| 14:13.07 | xchg | stew: security. is for security updates in stable |
| 14:13.09 | stew | debiankid: no, thats only the security updates, not the entire repository |
| 14:13.13 | beardy | jetscreamer: Nothing to omg over. He does it becuase he can. |
| 14:13.26 | jetscreamer | yes oh wise one |
| 14:13.26 | debiankid | stew well i dont have the entire rep[osity them |
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| 14:13.43 | frbn | jm_, no, I would like to first get a sarge and then I will see... |
| 14:13.49 | stew | justdust: use http://channels.debian.net/paste |
| 14:13.50 | xchg | debiankid: deb ftp://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ stable main contrib |
| 14:13.55 | xchg | for example |
| 14:14.09 | xdr | anyone know how to change UI language for firefox? |
| 14:14.09 | jm_ | frbn: skipping a version during dist-upgrade is not supported, that's why people run into such issues |
| 14:14.24 | beardy | frbn: Is it only possible to isntall slink on that machine, or did you get it with slink installed on it? |
| 14:14.47 | debiankid | xchg aja? |
| 14:14.52 | jetscreamer | !beardy++ |
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| 14:15.07 | xchg | debiankid: it was example repository line aimed to be in sources.list |
| 14:15.09 | frbn | i got it with a badly installed slink. kernel 2.0.36 :\ |
| 14:15.31 | debiankid | xchg ok |
| 14:15.42 | user__ | 2.0.36? :D |
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| 14:16.03 | debiankid | xchg heheh i have only on my list security.debian.org |
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| 14:16.13 | xchg | debhelper: it explains everything |
| 14:16.18 | justdust | stew: ok, pasted it, where do I find it back ? |
| 14:16.20 | stew | debiankid: just run apt-setup already |
| 14:16.20 | debiankid | ok |
| 14:16.24 | user__ | xdr there are packages with language files, apt-cache search firefox will find them |
| 14:16.27 | beardy | frbn: And it's not possible/to much trouble to install sarge on it instead? Upgrading can perhaps work too of course.. |
| 14:16.28 | stew | justdust: put the url here |
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| 14:16.44 | justdust | sorry, I'm a moron, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1541. |
| 14:16.51 | infoB | can anyone help with DICT UTF-8 issue? |
| 14:17.34 | stew | justdust: its a savage, what driver did you choose in x? |
| 14:17.39 | xdr | user__: sorry, was in the wrong channel gentoo user |
| 14:17.45 | debiankid | stew thanks my friend |
| 14:17.46 | justdust | stew: uh ? |
| 14:17.47 | beardy | infoB: You have to state your problem that you have with it, is as much useful detail as you can. |
| 14:17.50 | debiankid | stew im udtating now |
| 14:17.54 | justdust | stew: autodetect... |
| 14:17.57 | beardy | s/is/in/ |
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| 14:18.06 | gypsymauro | hello |
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| 14:18.50 | infoB | beardy, 1) i don't now how to input german characters in xterm and 2) german characters are not displayed correctly. |
| 14:19.12 | stew | justdust: put your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 into the pastebin |
| 14:19.20 | ncp | looking for a guide on how to set up a trafik shaper, anybody know any good ones? |
| 14:19.23 | justdust | okidoki... |
| 14:19.29 | stew | ncp: apt-cache show wondershaper |
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| 14:19.49 | ncp | stew: thanks |
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| 14:20.05 | frbn | beardy, I can't boot the install (MILO no more supported :\ ) |
| 14:20.16 | gypsymauro | I'm using xvfb to run openoffice as server at startup with a script in /etc/init.d, if I launch the program by hand it works, but if I let init program to load it automatically it doesn't works, I mean if I login as root and I run manually /etc/init.d/myservice start, then I can see my program working |
| 14:20.26 | xchg | infoB: http://www.jw-stumpel.nl/xterm.html |
| 14:20.43 | beardy | frbn: Ok |
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| 14:20.55 | gypsymauro | if instead I reboot the machine it doesn't works I can see with ps that the process is up but not binds the tcp port.. what's the difference? maybe the init doesn't logins the user? |
| 14:21.01 | frbn | Is it a good idea to dpkg-deb -x on the partition for all the .deb found on the sarge-netinst ? |
| 14:21.09 | beardy | infoB: "/msg dpkg locales" perhaps? |
| 14:22.02 | beardy | frbn: MILO? |
| 14:22.12 | frbn | lilo for alpha |
| 14:22.28 | frbn | dont ask me more, I just discover it yesterday |
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| 14:23.08 | fireba11 | anyone ever tried to switch a "normal" installation to software raid afterwards ? |
| 14:23.16 | justdust | stew: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1542. |
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| 14:23.40 | beardy | frbn: Can an alpha boot from floppies? Or, can you do a debootstrap install perhaps? (I've never owned/touched an alpha.) |
| 14:24.06 | junix|work | ok every time i use a kernel that is greater than 2.6.7 my pc locks up over night....i'm using a IBM ThinkCentre |
| 14:24.12 | tarzeau | beardy: network boot/install? |
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| 14:24.27 | frbn | debootstrap claims he needs libc6. I didn't try to boot on the floppy. |
| 14:24.29 | tarzeau | beardy: i've got some notes about mine at www.linuks.mine.nu/alpha/ |
| 14:25.17 | stew | justdust: that all looks fine to me |
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| 14:26.13 | fhd | sorry if it does not belong here, but do you know a channel where I can ask about developing pam applications? |
| 14:26.18 | frbn | tarzeau: I don't have SRM, it's ARCOS. :\ |
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| 14:26.59 | tarzeau | fhd: #c ? |
| 14:27.18 | fhd | tarzeau: I'll try |
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| 14:27.20 | beardy | tarzeau: Thanks. I'll have a look. |
| 14:27.21 | justdust | stew: I have a little problem on the side... I can't type special characters in KDE, like the pipeline and square brackets, I'm using a belgian keyboard... |
| 14:28.10 | stew | justdust: you might try xkeycaps and/or xmodmap to remap some of the keys |
| 14:28.17 | xchg | frbn: sorry, i didn't followed the thread. my question would be - does networking works on alpha right now ? |
| 14:28.24 | usn_work | Can somebody recommend a free linux file system for a shared media, but not ocfs/ocfs2? |
| 14:28.29 | deeLer | in which package can i find the 'lp' command ? |
| 14:28.32 | frbn | yes. |
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| 14:28.40 | frbn | I put a 3com in it |
| 14:28.44 | Myon | !keymap |
| 14:28.44 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 14:29.11 | stew | deeLer: /msg dpkg apt-file ; and then run apt-file bin/lp |
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| 14:29.22 | justdust | stew: I had the same problem in gnome, it got solved with "gdmkbxm be" in console... |
| 14:29.34 | justdust | or something like that... |
| 14:29.51 | xchg | frbn: so you can reach internet from it ? |
| 14:29.57 | frbn | yes I can |
| 14:30.10 | xchg | frbn: wait, i'll look at bookmarks for some slink repositories |
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| 14:31.00 | frbn | thnx |
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| 14:31.45 | xchg | frbn: deb-src http://ftp.45.free.net/debian slink local updates nas |
| 14:31.48 | justdust | !dpkg belgian keyboards... |
| 14:32.12 | xchg | frbn: there's also binary too, but it's x86 |
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| 14:32.31 | xchg | frbn: so i guess you have do grab the source packages and compile them |
| 14:32.37 | botsy_ | i have a problem when i recompil my kernel ... the pastebin http://pastebin.com/502355 |
| 14:32.39 | stew | without libc6? |
| 14:32.41 | botsy_ | please help me |
| 14:33.00 | xchg | stew: is it missing ? |
| 14:33.01 | justdust | how about 3D acceleration, how do I cope with that ? |
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| 14:35.00 | stew | xchg: aparantly its broken |
| 14:35.07 | botsy_ | no .... |
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| 14:35.32 | justdust | when I configured my wifi, I think I gave in the wrong DNS server, so when I ask for a webpage it takes 15 seconds to load the page, where can I change that ? |
| 14:35.34 | stew | botsy_: which gcc are you using? |
| 14:35.37 | frbn | stew, not at all, I can boot on the same machine, on another disk. |
| 14:35.43 | stew | justdust: man resolv.conf |
| 14:35.46 | xchg | frbn: http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ |
| 14:35.46 | botsy_ | gcc 2.95 |
| 14:35.50 | justdust | thx |
| 14:36.00 | xchg | frbn: there're older debian releases |
| 14:36.09 | xchg | frbn: containing slink/alpha too |
| 14:36.44 | xchg | frbn: just form your sources.list (or apt.sources, don't remember for slink ) and update/upgrade |
| 14:36.51 | debiankid | wifi? mmmmm |
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| 14:37.43 | frbn | xchg: thanks |
| 14:37.52 | xchg | frbn: you're welcome |
| 14:38.03 | xchg | http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/Debian-2.1/main/binary-alpha/ |
| 14:38.04 | xchg | btw |
| 14:38.06 | ncp | stew: wondershaper is a easy setup trafikshaper, do you know one with a bit more options, cause i would like to set it up my way :) |
| 14:38.20 | frbn | beardy, thanks |
| 14:38.28 | botsy_ | what's content the rep /usr/src/linux/hpc ? |
| 14:38.44 | beardy | frbn: You're welcome. (for what? :) ) |
| 14:38.47 | stew | ncp: i don't know. you could always alter wondershaper to your needs |
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| 14:39.08 | diana | I click on http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/flashblock-1.3.3.xpi with firefox...and it pops up my "Extensions" window and it does nothing. |
| 14:39.15 | norskfjord | I have a question about eggdrop... When I do, apt-get install eggdrop, there is no config file |
| 14:39.15 | jvw | diana: try 'enable board yes'? |
| 14:39.18 | norskfjord | to edit |
| 14:39.22 | diana | How do I install flashblock? |
| 14:39.27 | diana | jvw: yea I got that, heh |
| 14:39.36 | stew | norskfjord: did you previously have it installed? |
| 14:39.42 | stew | norskfjord: /msg dpkg confmiss |
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| 14:39.49 | justdust | stew: so I editted resolv.conf, should I restart something before changes take effect ? |
| 14:39.50 | jm_ | nork;also read /usr/share/doc/eggdrop/README.Debian |
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| 14:39.57 | stew | justdust: just edit |
| 14:39.58 | diana | I wanted to see if I could figure out how to setup a board and customize all the styles and stuff...and once i figured it out I realized I have no reason to make a board I have nothing to talk about. |
| 14:39.59 | davis | hello |
| 14:40.00 | frbn | beardy: I thought u helped me... nop. |
| 14:40.02 | justdust | thx |
| 14:40.10 | ncp | stew: thougt about that, but if is limitede options i dont see the point... but gonna check it out, could be it will do it |
| 14:40.13 | skript | how can I change default font sizes for apps that use X11 (like xchm) ? is there a something like x11-control-center ? |
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| 14:40.36 | norskfjord | $ msg dpkg confmiss |
| 14:40.37 | norskfjord | -bash: msg: command not found |
| 14:40.44 | stew | !tell norskfjord about confmiss |
| 14:40.50 | diana | !tell norskfjord about msddpkg |
| 14:40.53 | diana | !tell norskfjord about msgdpkg |
| 14:41.15 | beardy | frbn: I tried to :) |
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| 14:41.38 | justdust | stew: no, It still takes an awfull long time to load the pages... |
| 14:41.41 | davis | i am having a problem with apt-get dist-upgrade which I have not seen before. When it completes downloading a package, it gets stuck downloading the next package. It simply says "Waiting for headers" and it needs to be restarted before it will resume downloading packages. I tried restarting networking ,but it did not fix the pro blem. |
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| 14:42.27 | fireba11 | davis your mirror is freaking slow ... |
| 14:42.48 | davis | ok. thanks. |
| 14:42.49 | fireba11 | davis: how long did you wait ? |
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| 14:42.59 | davis | a couple of minutes. |
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| 14:43.08 | davis | i should get a new one. let mt try that. |
| 14:43.10 | fireba11 | davis: try another mirror |
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| 14:43.45 | stew | justdust: maybe your browser needs a restart. running "host domain.com" from the command line will give you an indication of how long dns queries are taking |
| 14:43.45 | beardy | frbn: So, what are you going to try? To upgrade, or to reinstall, in some way? |
| 14:44.04 | justdust | thx |
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| 14:46.03 | xchg | dvm1981: any progress so ? :-) |
| 14:46.15 | dvm1981 | I have some troubles to set up xinerama. When arrived to the secto 4 of the HOW TO. I must by do the command 'X -configure' with the root user in the cli but this give and error. I look in the /var/log/XFree86.0.log but i not understand |
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| 14:46.43 | fireba11 | anyone ever tried to set up software raid on a running system ? will that work without long downtime ? |
| 14:46.52 | xchg | dvm1981: pastebin ? |
| 14:47.19 | noid | fireba11: it is possible, yes |
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| 14:47.40 | dvm1981 | xchg : I would like first (quick if possible or go to the upgrade phase) troubleshout my dualscreen that can help my for vmware |
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| 14:48.04 | xchg | dvm1981: i meant could you pastebin your X log ? :-) |
| 14:48.14 | stew | dvm1981: don't bother with X -configure, you already have a working X |
| 14:48.16 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yep ;-) |
| 14:48.51 | fireba11 | noid: was pretty sure it was possible .. question is is it hard to do, the system is productive, so i need to do it without a long downtime and it shoulnd't be TOO complicated compared to setting up at install |
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| 14:49.27 | dvm1981 | stew : right, so little bit farder, i continue then, thx, probably i must quit the irc here for the procedure of the HOWTO, i and you will see .... |
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| 14:50.24 | noid | fireba11: well, it depends on what you need to do, and i was assuming that you have raid support in your kernel |
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| 14:50.32 | dvm1981 | I not find the paste url in my bookmarks |
| 14:50.54 | xchg | pastebin.com |
| 14:51.00 | dvm1981 | i need to reorganize it because there are so muchs interesting things... |
| 14:51.17 | noid | noid: if you have it, it should be a matter of a few commands to create the volumes and mount them |
| 14:51.35 | noid | fireba11: that was meant for you |
| 14:51.37 | fireba11 | noid: it's a fresh sarge install .. just had to restore a service on it really quick and needed the old data, so i did set up without raid ... got only one partition, i want to mirror that |
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| 14:52.29 | davis | hmm. I tried a differnet mirror and I am getting the same problem. it is hanging "waiting for headers" |
| 14:52.35 | dvm1981 | How i can copy a lots of text in a consol to pate it to pastebin ? I can not copy text lower than what i see in the consol. |
| 14:53.01 | dvm1981 | But its possible to open Korqueror, but someone a tip ? |
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| 14:53.03 | xchg | copy a first portion, paste, scroll, copy a second..etc.. |
| 14:53.08 | bigup | hi all :) |
| 14:53.18 | xchg | but it'll be enough if you only paste last several lines |
| 14:53.18 | fireba11 | davis: network is working fine ? |
| 14:53.20 | xchg | hi |
| 14:53.24 | dvm1981 | xchg: Looking for a nice command ;-) |
| 14:53.43 | davis | netowkr seems to be working fine. |
| 14:53.54 | fireba11 | noid: sounds good ... you know a good how-to for that ? only used d-i so far to set it up |
| 14:54.04 | stew | dvm1981: use screen |
| 14:54.05 | xchg | dvm1981: hm, you say something. there's a NEED for utility like cat something > /dev/clipboard :-) |
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| 14:54.44 | noid | fireba11: my raid specific knowledge doesn't go that far, i think there is a raid howto as you www.google.com/linux it |
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| 14:54.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, yes, on the rigth way, just i must by understand how to, i try |
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| 14:55.28 | davis | i changed mirrors and now i get - Error reading from server - read (104 Connection reset by peer) |
| 14:55.30 | yacc | Just wondering, what filesystems are sensible for a 3TB fileserver? |
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| 14:55.38 | inetd | show your desktop (links) |
| 14:55.40 | noid | !tell fireba11 about software raid |
| 14:55.47 | inetd | desktop screenshots |
| 14:55.48 | tarzeau | yacc: if you mean good, with sensible, then ufs2 |
| 14:55.48 | oleczek | hi, where can I get old debian potato iso? |
| 14:55.50 | dvm1981 | cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log > /dev/clipboard |
| 14:56.00 | tarzeau | yacc: which you can have with freebsd or debian gnu/kfreebsd |
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| 14:56.05 | tarzeau | oleczek: oh come on! |
| 14:56.06 | xchg | oleczek: http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/dists/ |
| 14:56.24 | tarzeau | oleczek: ftp://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian-cd/2.2_r7 |
| 14:56.25 | fireba11 | noid: oh, thanks .. didn't know that one |
| 14:56.26 | xchg | oleczek: 2.2 it is |
| 14:56.29 | oleczek | thanks! |
| 14:56.33 | cat | dvm1981: it is bad idea to call myself cat :( |
| 14:56.33 | xchg | np |
| 14:56.37 | noid | fireba11: np |
| 14:56.45 | yacc | tarzeau: I'd need something Linux-ish ;) |
| 14:56.48 | tarzeau | cat: try tac |
| 14:56.49 | oleczek | I have it in my music-box (in pub, playing music for coins :) ) |
| 14:56.55 | tarzeau | yacc: not debian-ish? |
| 14:57.03 | davis | i wonder if it has to do with "install these packages without verification" message? |
| 14:57.04 | dvm1981 | cat: oeps, i try somethings |
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| 14:57.08 | shad0w1e | my remote machine has "gone to sleep" when I "putty" into it, the terminal just sits there.. but doesnt give me any errors, just a blank screen. is there any way to "wake it up" from here? Thanks |
| 14:57.10 | dvm1981 | cat: sorry |
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| 14:57.29 | dvm1981 | xchg: cat /var/log/XFree86.0.log > /dev/clipboard |
| 14:57.31 | Shadowcat | tarzeau: because this is a linux channel? :P |
| 14:57.36 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: no it's not |
| 14:57.41 | tarzeau | Shadowcat: it is a DEBIAN channel |
| 14:57.42 | davis | after I do apt-get update, I get all the packages updated and then I get this message" The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230.... |
| 14:57.47 | tarzeau | for linux, there's #linux of course |
| 14:57.55 | yacc | tarzeau: Well, not debianish. Or say Debian/Linux :) |
| 14:57.56 | davis | is there a way to disable the key check? |
| 14:58.00 | valdyn | !topicsmite davis |
| 14:58.00 | dpkg | And the wrath of /TOPIC descended with terrible fury upon davis. And all the people marveled, saying, Behold, we too should read the /TOPIC, lest we be stricken. And all the people read the /TOPIC, and went away edified. |
| 14:58.00 | xchg | dvm1981: i said there's _need_ for such ability, not this it exists :-) |
| 14:58.01 | dvm1981 | xchg: That work not, but is there somethings similar, that seems great what i will to use ;-) |
| 14:58.12 | xchg | dvm1981: maybe will do such device at weekend :-) |
| 14:58.13 | stew | tarzeau: do you still have a running debian gnu/kfrebsd machine? |
| 14:58.16 | davis | heh |
| 14:58.17 | tarzeau | there's even a #DEBAIN channel for DEBAIN stuff |
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| 14:58.28 | tarzeau | stew: of course. gnu.ethz.ch is one, got another, and one more :) |
| 14:58.30 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) |
| 14:58.30 | oleczek | thanks, bye! |
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| 14:58.59 | tarzeau | stew: wait you DON'T have a debian gnu/kfreebsd machine? |
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| 14:59.16 | stew | tarzeau: i haven't gotten to it yet and just lost 2 machines, so i'm short on boxes now |
| 14:59.27 | eis_os | Hello |
| 14:59.28 | tarzeau | stew: you heard about dualboot? |
| 14:59.40 | stew | nope |
| 14:59.57 | xchg | dvm1981: got success |
| 15:00.03 | xchg | dvm1981: xclip ! |
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| 15:00.31 | eis_os | Whats the best way under a debian to have that php-scripts doesn't use the apache user but the owner of the virtual hosts? |
| 15:00.39 | dvm1981 | xchg: I must look for package xclip ? |
| 15:00.53 | xchg | dvm1981: apt-get install xclip |
| 15:00.58 | diana | How can I make my firefox from debian/testing only look in ~/.mozilla for program preferences...and not look in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox |
| 15:01.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: doing ;-) |
| 15:01.12 | davis | thanks for the topicsmite |
| 15:01.23 | xchg | dvm1981: xclip -i /var/log/XFree.0.log |
| 15:01.35 | davis | that fixes the gpg key lookup but I still have a Wating for headers problem. |
| 15:01.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: ;-) ;-) ;-) |
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| 15:02.48 | xchg | dvm1981: or cat blabla |xclip |
| 15:03.12 | dvm1981 | xchg: The first not work ? i tested, i do but paste |
| 15:03.15 | eis_os | via fastcgi, suexec, suphp? su_php/suexec seems to be very res hungry, and about fastcgi, I haven't found a proper documentation for vhosts |
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| 15:03.30 | xchg | dvm1981: working here |
| 15:03.36 | davis | hmm. i switched from a http based server to a ftp server and viola the problem is solved! |
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| 15:03.47 | tarzeau | !viola |
| 15:03.47 | dpkg | from memory, viola is a string instrument, related to the violin but slightly larger. It is *not* the French word for "there it is". |
| 15:04.00 | tarzeau | davis: you also play guitar? |
| 15:04.02 | davis | lol |
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| 15:04.32 | davis | hmm. i switched from a http based server to a ftp server and wahla the problem is solved! |
| 15:04.37 | davis | 8-) |
| 15:04.40 | tarzeau | !wahla |
| 15:04.47 | dvm1981 | xchg: There are some troubles here, it not work, euhm i have do tested these two commands above, no error but when i paste there are nothings |
| 15:05.38 | xchg | dvm1981: paste by middle mousebutton |
| 15:05.50 | xchg | dvm1981: it will invoke X clipboard, not WM one |
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| 15:06.09 | dvm1981 | So but these info are now im my logs and i will test i a virtual pc ;-) Before i would like to setup my two monitors in two parts one for VMWare and another to work on other things |
| 15:06.10 | R_engel | hello my problem is: I create local repositoy, create Release Package and Package.gz, how me create Release.gpg and how add key to all ? |
| 15:06.28 | dvm1981 | xchg: Bingo :-) |
| 15:06.36 | metho | jm_: how do i create/setup professional site so people can access it from anywhere |
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| 15:06.42 | dvm1981 | xchg: Its works now ;-) |
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| 15:06.43 | dbi | R_engel: ever tried reprepro? It does all this |
| 15:06.45 | metho | how do i create/setup professional site so people can access it from anywhere |
| 15:06.49 | xchg | dvm1981: cool :) |
| 15:07.00 | dvm1981 | xchg: You are a king man ;-) |
| 15:07.24 | justdust | when I wget or host google at the command line, everything's fine, but when I ask for a page in firefox, it takes 15 seconds, wth is wrong ??? |
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| 15:07.25 | xchg | dvm1981: nope. i didn't knew xclip is existing even :-) |
| 15:07.33 | xchg | dvm1981: just took a google |
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| 15:07.50 | dvm1981 | xchg: i forget contstantly the middle mouse button, because before im was on another M$ OS where his not use it so |
| 15:07.59 | metho | could some1 help me setting up a website on debian |
| 15:08.10 | cat | hi when i run apt-get ,it is wget that downloads the package??? |
| 15:08.14 | melao- | i'm newbie with debian, and I want to know why the list of available packages doesn't have all the packages from sarge during the network installation |
| 15:08.26 | xchg | dvm1981: using linuxes since 1997, but still use ctrl-c/v |
| 15:08.27 | tarzeau | cat: why do you need to know? |
| 15:08.30 | justdust | metho: shot, I'm jno genius, but I managed before... |
| 15:08.31 | dvm1981 | xchg: It's for that, that you are a king ;-) you have search with my for my and find it ... |
| 15:08.35 | xchg | dvm1981: M$ is like a brain-virus |
| 15:08.37 | Shadowcat | melao-: it doesn't? since when? |
| 15:08.37 | justdust | shoot |
| 15:08.43 | justdust | not shot |
| 15:08.48 | tarzeau | xchg: brain virus? |
| 15:08.50 | stew | melao-: what is an example of a missing package? |
| 15:08.58 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, i have learn bad things about it ... |
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| 15:09.08 | metho | justdust: how, is there a link that i can use |
| 15:09.15 | metho | justdust: how, is there a link that i can use for a guide |
| 15:09.18 | melao- | well, the package libssl-dev wasn't there during the installation, but after I rebooted the system, aptitude could find it |
| 15:09.34 | cat | if it is wget ,i want to change it to something others |
| 15:09.41 | tarzeau | cat: like curl? |
| 15:09.43 | dvm1981 | xchg: so i poste the pastebin info he, before i finally forget it ;-) |
| 15:09.44 | Shadowcat | melao-: it's in aptitude, you just don't know how to use it |
| 15:09.48 | justdust | metho: try debian apache setup guide in google... |
| 15:09.49 | noid | metho: go to www.apache.org and read the docs on how to set up a web server |
| 15:09.50 | Shadowcat | hint: look at the menus |
| 15:09.56 | melao- | hm |
| 15:09.59 | xchg | dvm1981: cool. and what's the link ? |
| 15:10.05 | melao- | i'll try it again, thanks |
| 15:10.07 | metho | thanks guys |
| 15:10.13 | tarzeau | damn now there is thunderbird 1.5 |
| 15:10.15 | berloc | Hi folks. Anyone done any md5-related programming? I want to use md5sum functions in a program I'm writing and can't quite find where to begin. |
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| 15:10.29 | dvm1981 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:10.34 | stew | melao-: in what part of the installation were you looking at package lists? |
| 15:10.35 | tarzeau | berloc: check md5sum source |
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| 15:10.42 | tarzeau | berloc: openssl's got it too |
| 15:10.42 | davis | 1034kB/s gotta love it |
| 15:10.59 | tarzeau | berloc: it's fairly easy, i've done something with lcc-win32 on the other os |
| 15:11.11 | melao- | the one with those options of sets of packages for me to choose, like DNS Server, Mail Server, etc |
| 15:11.15 | dvm1981 | xchg: So continuing to try to setup my dual monitor before trying to migrate to Unstable :-) |
| 15:11.15 | xchg | dvm1981: * DRI initialization failed! * |
| 15:11.19 | justdust | so, quake III is not in apt-cache ? |
| 15:11.22 | melao- | ok, a little bit after that |
| 15:11.26 | xchg | dvm1981: it's why you 3d accel do not work |
| 15:11.36 | melao- | with aptitude |
| 15:11.40 | dvm1981 | xchg: Hoela you understand that all ... ;-0 |
| 15:11.47 | justdust | how do I set up 3D accecl ? |
| 15:11.49 | berloc | tarzeau, By any chance, do you have some code I could recycle that basically checks the md5sum then continues your processing? |
| 15:11.54 | tarzeau | justdust: what graphics card? |
| 15:11.56 | xchg | dvm1981: look, you log is more or less ok |
| 15:12.03 | xchg | dvm1981: i mean there're no critical errors |
| 15:12.04 | justdust | s3 savage |
| 15:12.11 | cat | tarzeau: yeah, or d4x |
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| 15:12.48 | tarzeau | berloc: it's years ago. http://www.cihar.com/gammu/docs/md5_8c-source.html |
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| 15:13.06 | R_engel | dbi,hmm... how do it without use repreppro, how me WRITE create Release.gpg, crypt Release file GPG and add key? |
| 15:13.13 | crevetor | hi, anyone familiar with dfsbuild ? |
| 15:13.21 | tarzeau | crevetor: and then? |
| 15:13.28 | berloc | tarzeau, anywhere to start would be very welcome. Thanks! Been years since I've played with this stuff. |
| 15:13.30 | diana | !tell crevetor about anyone |
| 15:13.43 | tarzeau | berloc: the url i gave you has all you need |
| 15:13.52 | tarzeau | berloc: you know C, don't you? |
| 15:13.52 | dbi | R_engel: I guess you gan run gpg --sign --ascii < Release > Release.gpg or something like this |
| 15:14.04 | justdust | so no QIII nor ET in ap-cache, what kind of distro is this... ;-) |
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| 15:14.17 | dvm1981 | xchg: Ok i continueing to try to get it working. |
| 15:14.29 | justdust | I bat nethack's there... |
| 15:14.41 | justdust | see... |
| 15:14.44 | crevetor | dfsbuild fails (well apt-move fails actually) because one path doesn't exist, here's the output : cd: 1867: can't cd to /mnt/antoine/debian-sam/target/var/lib/apt/lists |
| 15:15.00 | berloc | tarzeau, Yes, at least once upon a time I did. :) Feels like wiping away cobwebs trying to get my mind back into that mode. Thanks! Looks like I should be able to work with what you sent. |
| 15:15.01 | mere | looks like libcapi20-dev is missing from testing repositories.. what do i do, get from stable? |
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| 15:15.17 | crevetor | bugs have been opened and closed on that particular subject but it still doesn't work |
| 15:15.24 | stew | dvm1981: xinerama is still not working? |
| 15:15.30 | tarzeau | justdust: nobody forces you to use this distro |
| 15:16.06 | justdust | just joking tarzeau ... |
| 15:16.17 | tarzeau | justdust: tried gnurobbo yet? |
| 15:16.25 | justdust | what's that ? |
| 15:16.36 | tarzeau | justdust: like QIII but works without 3d |
| 15:16.56 | inetd | how do i search which pkg provide a certain file? |
| 15:16.59 | justdust | :-) |
| 15:17.03 | dvm1981 | stew : I read the info you have provided to my, having some troubles with 'X -configure' but seems not important, so continue, I have learned some trick by the way, this i have not loose time ;-) |
| 15:17.05 | tarzeau | inetd: on packages.debian.org if it works |
| 15:17.08 | stew | inetd: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 15:17.10 | justdust | like QIII with punchcards ? |
| 15:17.19 | dvm1981 | stew : thx for that info you give |
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| 15:18.07 | Drizzt_ | where can i find a debian sid dvd iso? |
| 15:18.08 | justdust | I really could use a hint on how to get 3D stuff working on my S3 savage card... |
| 15:18.10 | mere | is it allright to get a package from a stable release and install on testing, since there's no candidate at the testing repositories? |
| 15:18.23 | R_engel | dbi, how people download from repository, add key ? or this not do ? |
| 15:18.48 | xchg | justdust: stable or unstable ? |
| 15:18.54 | dvm1981 | B.T.W. 'xclip' can be verry usefull 'xchg' have found it for my but i can be verry usefull for manny users, search to learn more about it. |
| 15:19.01 | justdust | uh, stable I guess... |
| 15:19.13 | bibe | Drizzt_ : http://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#unofficial |
| 15:19.13 | dbi | R_engel: people add a line in their sources.list. to add your key to their apt's keyring they use apt-key |
| 15:19.14 | justdust | xchg: I did a net install... |
| 15:19.17 | xchg | dvm1981: agree |
| 15:19.18 | stew | justdust: does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say Yes or No |
| 15:19.27 | justdust | hold on... |
| 15:19.34 | noid | mere: it is ok, most of the time |
| 15:19.35 | inetd | stew: cheers |
| 15:19.40 | dvm1981 | xchg : How many time a had need so such tool, so really thankx |
| 15:19.46 | mere | ooh.. okay, thanks noid :) |
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| 15:19.50 | xchg | justdust: modprobe savage and enable DRM |
| 15:19.57 | Drizzt_ | bibe tnx |
| 15:19.58 | R_engel | dbi, how do it automaticall ? this is real ? =) |
| 15:20.09 | xchg | dvm1981: you're welcome, thanx to the author of tool |
| 15:20.15 | Knight_Lord | If i cat a file on a device, and then corrupt the device, is it possible that when reading the file again (with cat), it will read the file from cache instead of the device (and by doing so not finding the corruption)? |
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| 15:20.21 | Wharf | Hi there |
| 15:20.21 | dvm1981 | xchg : So i use i and test it now, but i must by continue ;-) |
| 15:20.22 | dbi | R_engel: which part do you want to automate? |
| 15:20.24 | Wharf | How do i run ssh |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | stew: alien:/home/justdust# glxinfo | grep rendering |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 15:20.25 | justdust | Xlib: No protocol specified |
| 15:20.26 | justdust | Error: unable to open display (null) |
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| 15:20.56 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, thats right also thankx to you because you have find it for my :-0 |
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| 15:21.53 | dvm1981 | xchg: So no i must by take time to eate some things. He he spahetti hhhmmm, so i take a pause. thx for the help he |
| 15:22.17 | xchg | dvm1981: same here. and stop thanking me for every breath :-) you're welcome |
| 15:22.18 | R_engel | dbi, add's key. |
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| 15:22.46 | stew | justdust: you have to do it as the user that started X |
| 15:22.52 | stew | !tell justdust about flood |
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| 15:23.31 | dbi | R_engel: write a script - to generate Packages, Release and sing them. Or, use reprepro to all this for you |
| 15:23.39 | Wharf | How do i run ssh |
| 15:23.43 | justdust | wow, got serious boot for that... |
| 15:23.44 | Wharf | on debian |
| 15:23.44 | dbi | R_engel: s/sing/sign/ |
| 15:23.44 | diana | I have irssi open with screen in my virtual terminal 2...how can I move it to another terminal...I have xterm open in virtual terminal 7(fluxbox)...what do I type in xterm to take this irssi window I am talking in from vt2 to vt7(fluxbox) |
| 15:23.47 | justdust | sorry |
| 15:23.54 | dvm1981 | xchg: Yes, that right, but people needs to receive at leaste the thx when his give a service, and you give a good :-) |
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| 15:24.02 | Wharf | Please |
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| 15:24.13 | dbi | Wharf: tried apt-get install openssh-server? |
| 15:24.19 | justdust | Did anyone reply to my 3D accel question, couldn't read, got kicked... |
| 15:24.24 | xchg | Wharf: ssh server or ssh client ? |
| 15:24.25 | R_engel | dbi, ok, thx. |
| 15:24.45 | xchg | Wharf: apt-get openssh-server in server case |
| 15:24.52 | xchg | Wharf: apt-get ssh if you just need a client |
| 15:24.54 | R_engel | dbi, my English is terible. =) |
| 15:24.57 | stew | diana: "screen -ls" to list screens, "screen -r screennum" or "screen -r screenname" on a detached screen, or use screen -x to share it (if it is already attached), you can "ctrl-a d" to detach from the screen |
| 15:25.06 | dvm1981 | xchg: Sometimes the people not receive the things what he needs, so ho helping with some other things ... |
| 15:25.11 | Wharf | I have a client |
| 15:25.15 | Wharf | duno how to start it |
| 15:25.19 | dbi | R_engel: good enough :) |
| 15:25.23 | Wharf | or what dir it's in |
| 15:25.38 | dbi | justdust: any hints in X's log and/or dmesg? |
| 15:25.41 | xchg | dvm1981: i'm just enjoying to help :-) so no thanx needed |
| 15:25.51 | noid | Wharf: usually you do 'slogin foo@bar' |
| 15:25.52 | xchg | Wharf: ssh -l <user> <host> |
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| 15:26.02 | Wharf | Na |
| 15:26.14 | Wharf | I wanted to run ssh on my server, not connect to someone |
| 15:26.26 | Wharf | Like so i can access my server from another pc |
| 15:26.26 | justdust | dbi: I don't even know what or where those are... |
| 15:26.30 | dvm1981 | There are really great peoples here :-) |
| 15:26.33 | xchg | Wharf: then apt-get install openssh-server |
| 15:26.42 | Wharf | I have a serve |
| 15:26.45 | Wharf | server |
| 15:26.49 | Wharf | ssh one |
| 15:26.52 | stew | Wharf: /etc/init.d/ssh restart |
| 15:27.02 | noid | Wharf: /etc/init.d/ssh start then, after installing ssh package and saying yes to run the service |
| 15:27.03 | Wharf | it finds ssh in that dir |
| 15:27.07 | dbi | justdust: X's log is in /var/log/X<something>.log ; dmesg|tail is the end of kernel messages |
| 15:27.29 | Wharf | It dont have restart there |
| 15:27.34 | Wharf | just ssh on it's own |
| 15:27.53 | justdust | dbi: homd on, I'll try to find out... |
| 15:27.59 | noid | Wharf: it will work, it's a parameter |
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| 15:28.25 | Wharf | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:28.55 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.01 | Wharf | I did |
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| 15:29.06 | Wharf | can you try conect |
| 15:29.12 | Wharf | incase it's already running |
| 15:29.20 | Wharf | it's contraplan.plus.com |
| 15:29.21 | stew | Wharf: what did you type that gave you "ssh: restart: Name or service unknown" ? |
| 15:29.28 | xchg | ps ax|grep ssh OR cat /etc/inetd.conf | grep ssh |
| 15:29.44 | Wharf | I went to the dir you said, then said ssh restart |
| 15:29.50 | xchg | does it say anything ? |
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| 15:30.00 | kspath | wharf: uname -a |
| 15:30.02 | Wharf | What i just pasted here |
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| 15:30.10 | justdust | dbi: XFree86's log has no errors... |
| 15:30.11 | stew | Wharf: type exactly this: "/etc/init.d/ssh restart" |
| 15:30.31 | deibyd | Restarting OpenBSD Secure Shell server: sshd. |
| 15:30.46 | Wharf | Bingo! |
| 15:30.48 | stew | justdust: does "glxinfo | grep rendering" say Yes or No |
| 15:30.49 | Wharf | thanks |
| 15:30.49 | dbi | justdust: did you checket all of it? it is usually rather large... |
| 15:30.53 | Silent_al | what the command to only download pkgs with apt-get? ive tried 'sudo apt-get -d <pkg name> with no success .. |
| 15:30.54 | Wharf | brb |
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| 15:31.12 | frbn | Silent_al, option -d |
| 15:31.13 | stew | Silent_al: apt-get -d install pkgname |
| 15:31.22 | justdust | dbi: Error lines start with EE right, well I couldn't find one... |
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| 15:31.37 | deibyd | i have this message: Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 15:31.37 | deibyd | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 15:31.37 | deibyd | Error: unable to open display (null) |
| 15:31.40 | kspath | someone that just discovered ssh? |
| 15:31.40 | Silent_al | stew , tried that aswwll. it asks me to install the pkgs |
| 15:31.49 | Silent_al | aswell* |
| 15:31.50 | deibyd | and i don't know what to do |
| 15:31.54 | R_engel | .udeb - ubuntu package ? |
| 15:31.54 | stew | Silent_al: yes, but it won't actually install it |
| 15:32.09 | stew | deibyd: /msg dpkg mit-magic-cookie ; /msg dpkg run stuff as root |
| 15:32.14 | stew | !udeb |
| 15:32.14 | dpkg | udebs are microdebs, "regular debian packages that are not policy compliant. They are used by the new debian-installer project, to build up the actual system that then installs debian." -- thus spake Joey Hess, the great debian genius |
| 15:32.17 | justdust | dbi: and dmesg doesn't say anything about X or S3 card... |
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| 15:32.58 | deibyd | i run this stuff how root |
| 15:33.00 | dbi | justdust: did you upgrade recently? This error is possible if you just upgraded xlibs without restarting X session |
| 15:33.02 | Silent_al | stew, ok , treid it , but this time it asks me to install additional pkgs :\ |
| 15:33.09 | stew | !tell deibyd about run stuff as root |
| 15:33.13 | deibyd | but, i run this commando "cp .Xauthority ~/." |
| 15:33.16 | Silent_al | frbn, option -d didnt work either |
| 15:33.19 | stew | !tell deibyd about mit-magic-cookie |
| 15:33.38 | stew | Silent_al: it won't actually install additional packages |
| 15:33.47 | justdust | dbi: I just upgraded 15 minutes ago, and didn't restart KDM, how do I do that without rebooting ? |
| 15:33.51 | norskfjord | how to unzip .gz ? |
| 15:34.05 | xchg | norskfjord: gunzip <file> |
| 15:34.37 | Silent_al | stewk, thanx i'll try , after downloading , where can i find the pkgs i wanted ? |
| 15:34.49 | stew | justdust: you are just trying to get 3d working? |
| 15:35.03 | justdust | stew: yes... |
| 15:35.14 | stew | justdust: how did you determine it wasn't working? |
| 15:35.30 | justdust | I guessed... |
| 15:36.00 | stew | justdust: i've twice given you a command that would tell you for sure |
| 15:36.05 | justdust | It didn't give me a hard time, so it's surely broken... |
| 15:36.05 | jetscreamer | tar xvzf blah.gz |
| 15:36.18 | bibe | justdust : CTRL+ALT+backspace or, more softly, CTRL+ALT+F1, login and /etc/init.d/kdm restart |
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| 15:36.23 | justdust | the glxinfo thing ? |
| 15:36.23 | frbn | jetscreamer, ? gzip -d is anough |
| 15:36.37 | justdust | stew: glxinfo ? |
| 15:36.38 | jetscreamer | whatever works |
| 15:36.41 | stew | justdust: yes |
| 15:36.49 | diana | stew: screen -x works...but I don't want to share it...I want to move it to here. |
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| 15:36.56 | justdust | stew: that returns an error... |
| 15:36.59 | stew | diana: -D -r |
| 15:37.02 | frbn | jetscreamer, really. not sure that tar can handle gzipped files... |
| 15:37.02 | diana | There is a screen on: 11786.tty2.cookooland (Attached) |
| 15:37.02 | diana | 1 Socket in /var/run/screen/S-diana. |
| 15:37.09 | justdust | stew: couldn't open display or someting... |
| 15:37.13 | diana | cool, thanks stew |
| 15:37.18 | jetscreamer | frbn: i am, or i would have not typed it in public :) |
| 15:37.26 | stew | justdust: yeah, as i said before, you need to run it as the user that started x |
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| 15:38.08 | justdust | stew: ok, there's only 2 users, so it should be the other one... |
| 15:38.12 | justdust | hold on... |
| 15:38.20 | smacnay | Is there a process, when using hotplug, to add and remove usb devices without locking up the 'lsusb' command? |
| 15:39.00 | frbn | jetscreamer, tar xvzf plop.gz |
| 15:39.05 | frbn | tar: Read 5 bytes from plop.gz |
| 15:39.12 | frbn | ls |
| 15:39.14 | frbn | plop.gz |
| 15:39.22 | justdust | stew: Xlib: extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0". |
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| 15:39.49 | tarzeau | it's choosing and not chosing, right? |
| 15:40.07 | xchg | stew: probally DRI is not enabled in X |
| 15:40.49 | xchg | justdust: cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf |grep dri |
| 15:40.56 | xchg | justdust: does it output anything ? |
| 15:40.57 | justdust | ok... |
| 15:41.06 | bibe | frbn : try gunzip plop.gz |
| 15:41.07 | tarzeau | no language nazis here? |
| 15:41.21 | cahoot | tarzeau: dict says so |
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| 15:42.12 | justdust | xchg: unknown file... |
| 15:42.28 | R_engel | for Extracting files exisiten only unrar-free ? |
| 15:42.40 | xchg | justdust: erm... and cat /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 ? |
| 15:42.54 | justdust | that one exists, hold on... |
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| 15:43.09 | illsci | whats the debian ssl'd apache deb called |
| 15:43.16 | illsci | for apache2 |
| 15:43.26 | xchg | justdust: anyway, i pasted a workable config to http://pastebin.com/502488 , take a look at this |
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| 15:43.46 | junix|work | ok i need to compile kernel-2.6.7 |
| 15:43.51 | xchg | justdust: especially at line 37, 41 and 125-127 |
| 15:43.53 | illsci | in /etc/apache2/ssl I dont have anything in here.... |
| 15:43.57 | junix|work | my computer locks up on anything higher.... |
| 15:43.59 | xchg | justdust: and compare with your file |
| 15:44.16 | cahoot | xchg: you know you can grep the file directly, skipping the cat and | |
| 15:44.16 | justdust | xchg: it says: load "dri"... that's all... |
| 15:45.00 | xchg | cahoot: i know :-) but usually i use cat |grep , hell knows why :-)) |
| 15:45.34 | eentzel | illsci: ssl is included in the apache2 package, I think -- /etc/apache2/ssl is just there for you to store your host keys |
| 15:45.35 | stew | there are a bunch of potential jokes there |
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| 15:45.53 | xchg | justdust: i wrote several lines before, please follow to http://pastebin.com/502488 |
| 15:46.03 | illsci | eentzel: do i have to create all the keys myself .... I am just used to redhat and a ssl.conf |
| 15:46.05 | xchg | justdust: and take a comparsion with yourconfig |
| 15:46.08 | justdust | xchg: thx |
| 15:46.11 | xchg | np |
| 15:46.17 | illsci | eentzel: is there no ssl.conf thats all in apache2.conf or something |
| 15:46.37 | fireba11 | someone can tell me if creating a raid1 on a live / will work without killing my debian ? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Software-RAID-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.1 gives the impression it will get wiped.. ? |
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| 15:46.56 | eentzel | illsci: /etc/apache2/sites-available/default.conf I believe |
| 15:47.00 | bibe | hi all. I wrote a simple script to turn on/off the "wireless led" of my notebook, echoing 1 or 0 to /proc/acpi/asus/wled. The script works fine, but I'd like to check whether $IFACE is wireless or not in a better way than IS_WIRELESS=$(/sbin/iwconfig $IFACE 2>/dev/null |grep ^$IFACE |wc -l) |
| 15:47.02 | illsci | ls |
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| 15:47.29 | xchg | btw, an interesting question, there's int10 module for X |
| 15:47.35 | xchg | what it's supposed to do ? |
| 15:47.41 | xchg | dealing with BIOS modes ??? |
| 15:47.50 | stew | fireba11: this link gives a good overview about how to make a raid1 from a running system: http://xtronics.com/reference/SATA-RAID-debian-for-2.6.html |
| 15:48.10 | stew | fireba11: basically you create a degraded raid1, copy files to it, reboot and mirror it |
| 15:48.13 | justdust | xchg: where is this xorg.conf file supposed to be ? |
| 15:48.23 | bibe | bibe : in older kernels, I used /proc/sys/net/$IFACE/wireless, but this pseudo file doesn't exist anymore (kernel 2.6.15) |
| 15:48.23 | Knight_Lord | How can i check the exit status of a command inside an if in csh? |
| 15:48.26 | jetscreamer | /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 15:48.27 | illsci | No there is nothing about ssl in there |
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| 15:48.34 | xchg | justdust: /etc/X11/ but...you're using XFree, not XOrg |
| 15:48.37 | fireba11 | stew ohh .. great ..that was what i was searching .. list that link a while ago |
| 15:48.42 | Knight_Lord | I'm trying if ( cmp /dev/md5 ~/md5 ) then but that doesn't seem to work |
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| 15:48.46 | jetscreamer | same dir as in xfree86 |
| 15:49.02 | eentzel | illsci: not by default, you have to add the directives you want |
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| 15:49.06 | justdust | xchg: so I compare your xorg to my xfree ? :-) |
| 15:49.24 | xchg | justdust: compare the logic inside, not the files :-) |
| 15:49.25 | jetscreamer | justdust: same file practically, just the names are different |
| 15:49.31 | eentzel | illsci: 'SSLEngine on' and 'SSLCertificateFile' |
| 15:49.31 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 15:49.32 | xchg | justdust: modules, DRI section, etc.. |
| 15:49.36 | justdust | got it... |
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| 15:49.51 | Viperchen | Hi... |
| 15:49.53 | xchg | justdust: the config i pasted is fully workable |
| 15:50.01 | xchg | hi |
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| 15:50.11 | Viperchen | i need some help to confige opengl... |
| 15:50.17 | Viperchen | configure |
| 15:50.25 | tarzeau | for people who wanted to know more about the new debian installer: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~franklin/Projects/dphys3/sarge-install-process.html |
| 15:50.28 | stew | today seems to be 3d day |
| 15:50.35 | xchg | yeah :-) |
| 15:50.38 | jetscreamer | why, Viperchen ... that doesn't usually come up |
| 15:50.39 | Viperchen | ;) |
| 15:50.46 | xchg | Viperchen: stable or unstable ? |
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| 15:50.53 | xchg | Viperchen: XOrg or XFree ? |
| 15:51.02 | xchg | Viperchen: and also graphcard vendor :-) |
| 15:51.04 | Viperchen | xorg testing |
| 15:51.23 | xchg | Viperchen: Nvidia or ATI ? |
| 15:51.28 | Viperchen | nvidia geforce 6600gt |
| 15:51.28 | jetscreamer | !tell Chernik about root |
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| 15:51.46 | stew | Viperchen: /msg dpkg nvidia one-liner |
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| 15:52.06 | xchg | Viperchen: and don't forget about modprobe agpgart before running X |
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| 15:53.00 | nuskool | can anyone tell me why an apt-get install --fix-missing openoffice.org stalls after downloading 16% of the last file I need to fetch? |
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| 15:53.20 | justdust | xchg: well, I got more modules in the list, like GLcore, dri is there too, could it be that the library is missing ? |
| 15:53.43 | stew | justdust: if the library was missing it would say so in an EE line in the log |
| 15:54.07 | xchg | justdust: probally you have problems with DRI, cat /dev/dri/card0 |
| 15:54.09 | justdust | stew: can I /log/ | grep EE ? |
| 15:54.20 | xchg | justdust: what does it say ? invalid argument or device busy |
| 15:54.27 | Viperchen | it seem my kernel sources are unconfigered, how to do that? |
| 15:54.32 | stew | justdust: sure |
| 15:54.41 | tarzeau | Viperchen: see /boot/config* and make oldconfig |
| 15:54.46 | stew | Viperchen: what does "uname -r" say? |
| 15:54.49 | justdust | xchghold on... |
| 15:55.04 | Viperchen | 2.6.12-1-386 |
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| 15:55.17 | stew | Viperchen: apt-get linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 15:55.26 | stew | actually are 2.6.12 headers still available? |
| 15:55.28 | justdust | xchg: unknown file or map... |
| 15:55.29 | Viperchen | i did that |
| 15:55.41 | stew | !info linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386 testing |
| 15:55.47 | kspath | Do the world a favor. Jail a spammer today. |
| 15:55.53 | xchg | justdust: could you pastle the output of lsmod to pastebin.com , please ? |
| 15:55.54 | dpkg | linux-headers-2.6.12-1-386: (Architecture-specific header files for Linux kernel 2.6.12 on 386-class machines), section devel, is optional. Version: 2.6.12-10 (etch), Packaged size: 385 kB, Installed size: 18820 kB |
| 15:56.10 | justdust | xchg: ok |
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| 15:56.20 | xchg | justdust: i recommend to apt-get install xclip |
| 15:56.28 | xchg | justdust: then do lsmod | xclip |
| 15:56.39 | falkon | Does anyone here use icecast at all? In Debian, it uses encrypted passwords, and I wanted to know if to put the password in the configuration I just run makepasswd to generate it and copy that to the config? |
| 15:56.39 | xchg | justdust: it will move the contents of output to X clipboard |
| 15:56.41 | stew | Viperchen: what command are you using, what exact error are you getting? |
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| 15:57.09 | Viperchen | m-a prepare |
| 15:57.10 | jetscreamer | it might be kernel-headers on older versions |
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| 15:57.53 | justdust | xchg: http://pastebin.com/502509 |
| 15:57.53 | stew | Viperchen: oh, thats fine, it just means that you have at least one set of sources unconfigured, but it should still find the configured headers for the running kernel |
| 15:57.58 | jetscreamer | mkpasswd isn't it |
| 15:58.23 | Viperchen | how? |
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| 15:58.34 | falkon | jetscreamer: yes, but once I encrypt my password, do I just copy it into the config? |
| 15:58.34 | justdust | xchg: I'm in kde, copying from konsole... |
| 15:58.37 | stew | Viperchen: i'm saying, just ignore that warning |
| 15:58.39 | xchg | justdust: there's no drm module loaded |
| 15:58.50 | xchg | justdust: do modprobe savage and modprobe drm |
| 15:58.57 | justdust | xchg: ok |
| 15:58.57 | falkon | jetscreamer: problem I have is when my encoder tries to connect to the icecast server I get "bad password" |
| 15:59.08 | stew | xchg: which kernel has a savage module? |
| 15:59.09 | Viperchen | there was the same error within the Nvidia driver installation script |
| 15:59.21 | jetscreamer | falkon: i 'believe' that's all, and did it like that once... but i just tried again, and it 'didn't work'(tm) but i'm not positive it was the encryped pw |
| 15:59.25 | xchg | stew: probally 2.6.* should have. |
| 15:59.26 | stew | Viperchen: don't use the nvidia driver installation script |
| 15:59.30 | Viperchen | k |
| 15:59.37 | justdust | xchg: huh ? modprobe, command not found... |
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| 15:59.46 | stew | justdust: as root |
| 15:59.46 | justdust | xchg: got to bze root ? |
| 15:59.49 | justdust | ok |
| 15:59.52 | xchg | justdust: under root |
| 16:00.03 | stew | but there isn't going to be a module named savage... |
| 16:00.10 | jetscreamer | justdust: as root, and in an xterm your path may not be set properly |
| 16:00.11 | chealer | jetscreamer: feww, you made me think for a second mwilson was back :) |
| 16:00.29 | falkon | jetscreamer: so does my encoder need to send the encrypted password or what the encrypted password WAS? |
| 16:00.40 | xchg | stew: hm, ../char/drm/savage.ko |
| 16:00.47 | justdust | xchg: both say module not found... |
| 16:00.50 | xchg | stew: which kernel ? |
| 16:01.03 | xchg | justdust: uname -a , pls |
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| 16:01.10 | jetscreamer | falkon: i would think the first but "i do not know" |
| 16:01.33 | jetscreamer | apt-get install modconf and use that to install modules |
| 16:01.48 | stew | xchg: 2.6.8 2.6.12 2.6.14 |
| 16:01.54 | justdust | Linux alien 2.6.8-2-k7 #1 Tue Aug 16 14:00:15 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:02.01 | stew | oh wait, i didn't check .14 |
| 16:02.07 | xchg | stew: 2.6.15 here, and savage is pretty old card |
| 16:02.13 | stew | yup |
| 16:02.14 | Gnea | weee, hey does anyone here have a Toshiba Satellite 5000 series laptop? |
| 16:02.23 | xchg | stew: /lib/modules/2.6.15-1-686/kernel/drivers/char/drm/savage.ko |
| 16:02.29 | jetscreamer | hey |
| 16:02.33 | timothykaine | Anyone know of a graphical wrapper for su (like gksu or kdesu) that does not rely on gconf or kdelibs? (excluding wmSu, this appears to have been abandoned long ago) |
| 16:02.42 | jetscreamer | are you configuring x, or the kernel framebuffer |
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| 16:03.10 | lordlamer | hello. i have installed nnswitch-mysql and libpam-mysql. i have users in the database. i can login with the user in the database. but i cant login over ssh and cannot change password with passwd. what could be wrong? |
| 16:05.13 | xchg | stew: http://www.linux-sxs.org/guis/DRIS3.html |
| 16:05.26 | xchg | stew: it says there's a savage.ko in 2.6.x modules, so i have no idea |
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| 16:06.01 | Gnea | !toshiba |
| 16:06.01 | dpkg | methinks toshiba is the manufacturer of epsasnova's hoss laptop. |
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| 16:06.11 | Gnea | who's that? |
| 16:06.18 | jetscreamer | toshiba notebook hd's seem to break a lot |
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| 16:06.27 | Gnea | solid here |
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| 16:06.42 | Gnea | jetscreamer: nvidia driver and X and kernel, that's a different story... |
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| 16:06.51 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 16:07.05 | jetscreamer | so i wonder which they are trying to configure |
| 16:07.07 | justdust | maybe my xfree isn't new enough, how can I find out it's version ? |
| 16:07.24 | jetscreamer | try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 16:07.32 | Gnea | X -version |
| 16:07.36 | jetscreamer | and see if the module you want is there |
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| 16:07.40 | stew | justdust: xfree and xorg would have the same driver |
| 16:07.41 | justdust | Gnea: thx |
| 16:07.50 | sree | hi |
| 16:07.53 | sree | how r u |
| 16:07.55 | stew | justdust: you have the most recent xfree |
| 16:08.07 | justdust | stew: ok |
| 16:08.10 | sree | can i c u |
| 16:08.20 | Gnea | hrm |
| 16:08.37 | xiaogil | how to download all the file which name begins with abc* using wget ? |
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| 16:09.02 | JKL_ | i want to install debian. i don't have flobby or cd-drive. im trying to enable services to run installer over lan. Server that needs to be configured is knoppix. how to configure all correct and then how to connect with client. |
| 16:09.16 | lordlamer | xiaogil: try to make a index.html with a link to this files |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | i have this version: "XFree86 Version 4.3.0.1 (Debian 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 20050901212727 fjp@localhost.localdomain) |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | Release Date: 15 August 2003 |
| 16:09.31 | deibyd | " |
| 16:09.40 | deibyd | how can i update this version? |
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| 16:09.53 | stew | !info xserver-xfree86 sarge |
| 16:09.58 | dpkg | xserver-xfree86: (the XFree86 X server), section x11, is optional. Version: 4.3.0.dfsg.1-14sarge1 (sarge), Packaged size: 5608 kB, Installed size: 15620 kB |
| 16:10.00 | stew | deibyd: that is the latest |
| 16:10.03 | Gnea | !tell JKL_ about netinstall |
| 16:10.12 | stew | deibyd: it was released a month or two ago |
| 16:10.21 | justdust | deibyd: what if you try apt-get update, apt-get upgrade ? |
| 16:10.23 | deibyd | ok stew sorry |
| 16:10.32 | stew | JKL_: you waant to install knoppix or you want to use knoppix as a pxe server? |
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| 16:10.35 | Gnea | deibyd: sarge has xfree86 |
| 16:10.40 | deibyd | but i'm new in thos channel, chould you please send me the information? |
| 16:10.40 | grendal_prime | hey stew i got this cf gps card...and i have a cf card reader...am i compleatly off my rocker thinking that would work in a laptop? |
| 16:10.43 | debiankid | buds what is this message ? smbd get_md4pw:workstation asesores$: no account in domain |
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| 16:11.03 | stew | grendal_prime: i have no idea |
| 16:11.05 | jetscreamer | he wants to use knoppix as the pxe server i think |
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| 16:11.15 | jetscreamer | so he can install debian |
| 16:11.21 | JKL_ | stew, use knoppix as pxe server |
| 16:11.30 | grendal_prime | i got the cf gps for my zaurus 5500 and it does work in that (its linux based strong arm proc) |
| 16:12.08 | Gnea | damn, how often does the bts update? |
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| 16:12.26 | kspath | anyone know any blind users that are on channels like this that can keep up with the scrolling crap? |
| 16:12.26 | deibyd | but, i want upgrade or update xfree, whit ./configure, can i do that? |
| 16:12.38 | Gnea | deibyd: no. |
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| 16:12.42 | justdust | xchg: do you think this is solvable ? |
| 16:12.45 | deibyd | without apt |
| 16:12.47 | Gnea | deibyd: what do you want to upgrade it to? |
| 16:12.55 | JKL_ | i tried to understand this: http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en but no :E |
| 16:12.56 | xchg | justdust: everything can be solved |
| 16:12.59 | stew | Gnea: constantly, it sometimes takes up to a half hour for an email to get processed though when its getting hit hard |
| 16:13.03 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:13.08 | stefan_ | how do I mount a bin/cue file? can I do it using the mount-command? |
| 16:13.13 | xchg | justdust: i just have no idea why do i HAVE salvage.ko and you and stew not |
| 16:13.14 | Gnea | stew: ah cool |
| 16:13.28 | stew | xchg: becuase you are on a newer kernel |
| 16:13.33 | xchg | xchg: since it have support in 2.6.x kernel branch |
| 16:13.34 | deibyd | becouse Gnea, i want to learn |
| 16:13.49 | stew | xchg: it wasn't an option (at least in debian's) 2.6.8 or 2.6.12 |
| 16:13.52 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en ? |
| 16:13.58 | justdust | xchg: can't I upgrade to your kernel version ? |
| 16:14.01 | jetscreamer | for pxebooting? |
| 16:14.02 | xchg | stew: documentation say it's available in whole branch |
| 16:14.06 | debiankid | ? |
| 16:14.06 | deibyd | then, i want to create my own distribution of linux? |
| 16:14.08 | stew | xchg: http://vireo.org/~stew/config-2.6.8-2-686 go to the Hardware configuration section |
| 16:14.11 | Gnea | deibyd: do you care if you break everything and have to reinstall? |
| 16:14.19 | deibyd | or install kernel without distribution. |
| 16:14.20 | jetscreamer | then you better learn a lot more? |
| 16:14.26 | stew | xchg: then either debian removed it, or the documentation is wrong |
| 16:14.51 | xchg | stew: doesn't matter, anyway it wouldn't help the guy |
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| 16:15.04 | xchg | stew: hm, is 15 available in testing ? |
| 16:15.06 | deibyd | ok Gnea, but if yout broke, faster you learn |
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| 16:15.18 | kspath | I will hang out in #debian-blind just in case |
| 16:15.29 | smacnay | to stop a .deb kernel (initrd) from loading unwanted modules, place a 'blacklist module' in /etc/modprobe.conf? stew: hotplug control is coming for me now but some modules are loaded before hotplug starts up - don't waste any more time on me :) |
| 16:15.34 | Gnea | deibyd: i asked a 'yes' or 'no' question :) |
| 16:15.36 | stew | xchg: /msg dpkg info linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 testing |
| 16:15.41 | davis | hello |
| 16:15.43 | deibyd | do you can creat your own distribution? |
| 16:15.48 | xchg | stew thx |
| 16:16.00 | deibyd | gnea: yes! |
| 16:16.11 | JKL_ | well i tought that i can setup knoppix so i can boot over lan from it? and thats way install debian. i dont have cd or floppy, |
| 16:16.14 | Gnea | deibyd: then don't bother with source |
| 16:16.15 | xchg | justdust: kernel upgrade is the best idea, but what are you running ? |
| 16:16.24 | Gnea | deibyd: use the backports |
| 16:16.27 | Gnea | !backports |
| 16:16.27 | dpkg | backport is probably a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 16:16.28 | xchg | justdust: stable (no .15 available)? unstable? testing ? |
| 16:16.39 | justdust | shhh, if (jusdust doesn't walk dog in next minute) {poop on carpet}else{no 3D, no Quake...} |
| 16:16.45 | davis | i did an apt-get update and a apt-get dist-upgrade. Now I have a problem where I can not login as regular user. Only as root. When I login as user, I get an permission denied on /bin/bash and automaticallly logged out. What gives? |
| 16:16.54 | justdust | xchg: what ?? |
| 16:17.03 | xchg | justdust: distro branch |
| 16:17.04 | justdust | xchg: what do you mean ? |
| 16:17.09 | justdust | stazble |
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| 16:17.14 | xchg | justdust: bad luck |
| 16:17.15 | metho | is there a way of creating a website like using notepad and saving them as .html file in windows |
| 16:17.17 | stefan_ | how do I mount a bin/cue file? can I do it using the mount-command? |
| 16:17.21 | justdust | I just got the debian netinstall cd |
| 16:17.35 | xchg | justdust: it doesn't contain the proper kernel. but you can download the source and compile it at own |
| 16:17.39 | justdust | xchg: can I go from stable to unstable ? |
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| 16:17.59 | Viperchen | i cant find a nvidia-kernel-source for 2.6.12 :( |
| 16:17.59 | xchg | justdust: it depends on you. i'm always saying stable is for production servers, unstable is for home |
| 16:18.03 | jetscreamer | damn... i used to know the answer to davis' question |
| 16:18.05 | odb | justdust: as stable to etch works, it should be work directly too |
| 16:18.07 | stew | stefan_: what does the bin file contain? in general the aren't mountable, what does "file /path/to/.bin" say it is? |
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| 16:18.10 | justdust | xchg: eh, you're talking to a noob here, I don't know how to compile from source... |
| 16:18.20 | xchg | justdust: personally me has less problems with unstable than with stable :-) |
| 16:18.32 | stew | xchg: don't recommend unstable to people in here |
| 16:18.38 | justdust | xchg: are you here often ? |
| 16:18.42 | Viperchen | do i have something to add to sources.list? |
| 16:18.47 | odb | justdust: as beginner, install stable & then go perhabs to etch...step by step |
| 16:18.48 | xchg | justdust: almost every day |
| 16:18.58 | xchg | stew: i don't recommend, it depends on him |
| 16:19.00 | stefan_ | stew, It's a game cd, but I want to find out if a specific file will be on the cd so I want to browse the bin.. |
| 16:19.01 | stew | Viperchen: you need non-free and contrib /msg dpkg non-free ; man sources.list |
| 16:19.05 | jetscreamer | davis: try, as root, chowning your home dir to yourself, -R... chown -R you:you /home/you |
| 16:19.18 | jetscreamer | i 'think' that was it |
| 16:19.26 | Sunbug | A simple question here, I need to install debian sid but havent completly understod the diferences of things. What is non-US ? Isnt sid avalible in non-US ? |
| 16:19.28 | davis | jetscreamer: i looked. /home/davis is owned by davis:davis already. |
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| 16:19.32 | odb | stefan_: i think there are parms for mounting an iso |
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| 16:19.35 | justdust | xchg: I got to go, thx for all the help, I'll try an unstable erelease tonight, hope someone in here will help me... |
| 16:19.47 | chealer | !tell Sunbug about non-us |
| 16:19.48 | metho | is there a way of creating a website like using notepad and saving them as .html file in windows |
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| 16:19.57 | xchg | justdust: have a nice rest, CU |
| 16:19.57 | Gnea | today's E17 is extra sexy |
| 16:20.00 | stew | stefan_: why don't you just mount the original cd? |
| 16:20.01 | dogmeat | what is a good mount point for an additional hard drive (SATA) for a debian sarge server? |
| 16:20.07 | chealer | metho: why not? |
| 16:20.07 | jetscreamer | yes it's called $EDITOR , metho |
| 16:20.18 | justdust | xchg: rest ? got to go shopping... jeeej ! |
| 16:20.21 | Gnea | dogmeat: /data |
| 16:20.25 | Viperchen | thx |
| 16:20.26 | xchg | :-) |
| 16:20.30 | xchg | gotta go too |
| 16:20.34 | jetscreamer | davis: i could almost swear that was the answer, but i can't remember anyway |
| 16:20.35 | xchg | brb in couple of hours |
| 16:20.38 | stouset | dogmeat: What's the additional hard drive going to be doing? |
| 16:20.51 | stefan_ | stew, It's not an original.. got them as bins/cues from a friend.. file /path/to/.bin" says :data |
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| 16:21.04 | metho | and can u save as .html file to make it look like a website |
| 16:21.13 | stew | stefan_: we aren't going to help you with software piracy here |
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| 16:21.17 | dogmeat | stouset: probably just store data files, but i may also install software there as well |
| 16:21.20 | jetscreamer | metho: as long as you can hand code html, yes |
| 16:21.21 | xiaogil | how to d/l a directory using wget ? |
| 16:21.21 | chealer | Sunbug: note that you don't want to install sid if you don't master Debian |
| 16:21.26 | jetscreamer | but you can't or you would know htat |
| 16:21.27 | jetscreamer | that |
| 16:21.34 | dogmeat | stouset: like binaries, for builds etc |
| 16:21.39 | stefan_ | stew, I see.. is the whole channel anit-piracy? |
| 16:21.42 | stouset | dogmeat: /srv |
| 16:21.43 | metho | jetscreamer: is there linux software for making website |
| 16:21.46 | justdust | xchg: is unstable install as easy as stable netinstall ? |
| 16:21.47 | jetscreamer | metho: maybe you want.. ahhh |
| 16:21.48 | stew | stefan_: the whole network |
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| 16:21.56 | xchg | stew: btw, what's wrong with people and unstable ? |
| 16:21.57 | jetscreamer | metho: nvu is one |
| 16:22.11 | jetscreamer | there are many others |
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| 16:22.16 | jetscreamer | bluefish? i forget |
| 16:22.22 | jetscreamer | screem, peacock |
| 16:22.23 | dogmeat | thanks |
| 16:22.30 | xchg | justdust: it depends. sometimes weird thing can happen, but usually everything is going well |
| 16:22.35 | stefan_ | stew, I see.. sounds like a good thing.. yeah yeah.. but if it wasn't a pirate copy, then what would i have to do to see what the file contained? |
| 16:22.37 | justdust | thx everyone for all the help, see you later... |
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| 16:22.55 | metho | cheers m8, and for hosting just place a .html in apache2 /var/www ? |
| 16:22.55 | stew | stefan_: go away |
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| 16:23.11 | Gnea | jetscreamer: looks like the problem is hardware-specific (with the nvidia) |
| 16:23.13 | slept | dogmeat, maybe you want to use lvm and put your disks together |
| 16:23.35 | Kurtism | man, what is up with the debian implimentation of cyrus? |
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| 16:23.38 | Kurtism | wtf man |
| 16:23.47 | Gnea | Kurtism: ? |
| 16:23.50 | JKL_ | how do i install debian. i dont have floppy or cd-drive? i have another linux (knoppix) in my lan. |
| 16:23.53 | Kurtism | as far as I can tell it won't let me install saslauthd |
| 16:23.58 | jetscreamer | Kurtism: check the maintainer's logs, see if it's active |
| 16:24.06 | Kurtism | cyrus-imapd |
| 16:24.14 | Kurtism | where can I check that |
| 16:24.20 | jetscreamer | JKL_: do you have net access on that box? |
| 16:24.34 | jetscreamer | http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s06.html.en JKL_ |
| 16:25.16 | pipeline | JKL_: The key word here is "PXE" |
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| 16:25.25 | Gnea | JKL_: don't worry about the bootp, all you really need is tftp and dhcp |
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| 16:25.37 | JKL_ | there is a problem with that. i do not understand it enough. |
| 16:25.39 | pipeline | JKL_: You need to set up hpa-tftpd and (possibly) an NFS server. |
| 16:26.03 | pipeline | JKL_: Then download the pxeboot.tar.gz from your chosen debian mirror and follow the install guide instructions. |
| 16:26.06 | Gnea | pipeline: NFS is not necessary |
| 16:26.07 | Kurtism | hmmm |
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| 16:26.17 | Gnea | this is debian, not redhat ;) |
| 16:26.22 | JKL_ | i have 1 dhcp (my router) do i have to disable it? and make this knoppix act as dhcp server? |
| 16:26.37 | jetscreamer | probably not |
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| 16:26.44 | stew | xchg: unstable isn't meant for random newbies, it should only be run by people that really know what they are doing. they shouldnt' need support in here if they wan't to run unstable |
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| 16:27.26 | jetscreamer | you 'probably' just need a dhcp server |
| 16:27.29 | jetscreamer | any one will do |
| 16:27.33 | jetscreamer | but i'm guessing |
| 16:27.40 | Gnea | JKL_: yeah, you'll need to disable dhcp on the router |
| 16:27.44 | Gnea | or just unplug the router |
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| 16:27.55 | Gnea | and plug it back in once it's installed |
| 16:28.10 | Gnea | unless it's a netinstall |
| 16:28.21 | Gnea | where you actually have to use the internet to download packages |
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| 16:29.00 | sandman | Can MySQL and PostgreSQL work together? |
| 16:29.10 | stew | sandman: in what sense? |
| 16:29.15 | BuZzY | how good is postnuke? |
| 16:29.19 | sandman | PostgreSQL is a DBMS, meaning it's meant to work with a database engine, such as MySQL, yes? |
| 16:29.24 | pipeline | sandbot: No. |
| 16:29.30 | Gnea | BuZzY: drupal > postnuke |
| 16:29.31 | JKL_ | if i make an dhcp server and disable it from router. i let router act only as hub, shouldnt it work then? |
| 16:29.32 | lordlamer | sandman: yes |
| 16:29.46 | Gnea | JKL_: should be fine |
| 16:29.53 | stew | sandman: no, they are both DBMSs, they are both database engines |
| 16:29.58 | pipeline | JKL_: Yes. |
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| 16:30.17 | stew | sandman: they don't intercommunicate |
| 16:30.21 | JKL_ | do u know, if i can make dhcp server in this knoppix (running cd) |
| 16:30.27 | sandman | Oh. It seems, btw, that MySQL is less free than PostgreSQL |
| 16:30.28 | Gnea | sandman: you'd use something like ODBC to get them to intercommunicate |
| 16:30.30 | pipeline | JKL_: I would imagine so, but I have no idea. |
| 16:30.37 | pipeline | sandbot: I don't really care. MySQL is terrible. |
| 16:30.59 | sandman | As MySQL is steered by a Swedish company |
| 16:31.34 | Gnea | mysql has been easier to setup and maintain than postgresql, in my experience |
| 16:31.40 | stew | sandman: they are both dfsg-free which should be good enough |
| 16:32.13 | xinming | what's version of firefox in debian sid? |
| 16:32.27 | stew | xinming: /msg dpkg info firefox sid |
| 16:33.10 | xinming | stew: thanks |
| 16:33.30 | xinming | :-/ |
| 16:33.33 | jetscreamer | !start a db war |
| 16:33.33 | dpkg | MySQL is more full-featured than DB/2 |
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| 16:34.40 | basix | a stupid question: do LCD monitors have a refresh frequency like CRT ones? |
| 16:34.41 | stew | xinming: submit a patch! |
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| 16:34.47 | stew | basix: yes |
| 16:34.48 | Estes2 | !start a distro war |
| 16:34.48 | dpkg | DSL rocks! |
| 16:35.00 | Estes2 | dsl ? for a distro war ?? |
| 16:35.16 | xinming | stew: I am not good at programming |
| 16:35.17 | Estes2 | ah |
| 16:35.18 | stew | Estes2: /msg dpkg dsl |
| 16:35.24 | Estes2 | damn small linux |
| 16:35.28 | stew | xinming: submit a wishlist bug |
| 16:35.28 | Estes2 | yes, remembered |
| 16:35.32 | tarzeau | LSD rocks! |
| 16:35.36 | tarzeau | DSL is crap here |
| 16:35.41 | tarzeau | SDL is nice too |
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| 16:35.51 | tarzeau | !SLD |
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| 16:36.09 | basix | stew, how do i find out whats mine? |
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| 16:36.57 | syphox | heya,, what package do i need to apt-get to install smartctl ? |
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| 16:37.05 | stew | basix: how is it connected? vga cable? dvi cable? laptop? |
| 16:37.07 | maxb | Is there a reference document on the format of /var/lib/dpkg/status ? Specifically, I want to know all the possible values of the "Status:" field? |
| 16:37.14 | basix | laptop |
| 16:37.14 | micker | can anyone help me build madwifi on a toshiba 3500 tablet? I'm following the instructions from the dpkg bot, but its erroring out when I try to 'm-a a-i madwifi' |
| 16:37.19 | basix | stew, laptop |
| 16:37.21 | tarzeau | syphox: smartmontools |
| 16:37.23 | stew | basix: it likely can be autodetected then |
| 16:37.29 | syphox | ty tarzeau |
| 16:37.49 | basix | stew, how do i find out what frequency is it running at right now? xvidtune doesnt help |
| 16:37.51 | tarzeau | maxb: dpkg -l | head |
| 16:37.57 | stew | basix: xrandr |
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| 16:38.28 | micker | basix - what type/model laptop is it, lcd's have a fixed refresh rate... |
| 16:38.53 | basix | micker, its a dell inspiron 510m laptop |
| 16:39.17 | basix | micker, stew, it says 60Hz. It's kinda low isn't it? Shouldn't it be 85Hz or so? |
| 16:39.30 | Estes2 | Anyone knows about an apt-proxy howto ? |
| 16:39.32 | andr | basix: nope |
| 16:39.38 | JKL_ | hey, do i use dhcp.conf that is in 4.6.2 or in 4.6.2.1 |
| 16:39.47 | maxb | tarzeau: No, that's not right. The status file contains subtly different values. |
| 16:40.02 | stew | basix: no |
| 16:40.03 | tarzeau | maxb: ah, but same meaning :) |
| 16:40.11 | tarzeau | maxb: UTSL |
| 16:40.31 | maxb | tarzeau: That's fine for a human, but a script can't logically reason for itself |
| 16:40.42 | maxb | tarzeau: I'm unfamiliar with that acronym |
| 16:40.49 | andr | i've a problem with the /etc/hosts file, to wich package belongs to file a bug report? |
| 16:40.53 | tarzeau | !UTSL |
| 16:40.53 | dpkg | i guess utsl is Use The Source, Luke (loose translation: you think this has *comments*, huh?). If it was hard to write, it should be hard to understand. |
| 16:41.08 | stew | andr: what is the problem? |
| 16:41.11 | basix | andr, stew, i read somewhere that your screen should have a refresh rate of atleast 85Hz to keep your eyes from getting damaged |
| 16:41.26 | andr | basix: CRT |
| 16:41.34 | tarzeau | basix: don't trust all what you read |
| 16:41.47 | tarzeau | basix: high frequencies gets your scrotum damaged |
| 16:41.50 | stew | basix: i read that my body is inhabited by aliens |
| 16:41.57 | basix | lol |
| 16:42.09 | azeem | basix: for notebooks, 60 Hz is fine |
| 16:42.26 | basix | ok |
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| 16:43.04 | micker | basix - both my notebooks run at 60hz, that sounds about right... |
| 16:43.10 | andr | stew: seems that host command doesn't read /etc/hosts file |
| 16:43.11 | limpio | anybody can tell me how is jwm in Etch working out? |
| 16:43.31 | basix | micker, ok |
| 16:43.35 | stew | andr: its not supposed to |
| 16:43.54 | micker | basix - one thing to consider, In googling that model, it comes up as using the i855 video chipset which uses a nonstandard native resolution and seems to require a patch to work preperly |
| 16:43.55 | andr | stew: really? |
| 16:44.06 | tarzeau | limpio: you mean jvm? |
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| 16:44.34 | stew | andr: really, host does a dns lookup, and doesn't use nss at all |
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| 16:44.52 | basix | micker, yeah its i855 but my display works fine. i havent applied any patch to it. |
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| 16:45.33 | micker | basix - this may be a bit out of date then, but it may help too... http://www.tenfoot.org.uk/debian/dell-510m.html |
| 16:45.38 | nuskool | do the package descriptions on www.debian.org generally list a project's home page (if any)? |
| 16:45.42 | limpio | tarzeau: joe's window manager |
| 16:45.53 | basix | micker, i'll check it out |
| 16:45.57 | chealer | nuskool: no. check the package's copyright file instead |
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| 16:46.08 | tarzeau | nuskool: sometimes |
| 16:46.15 | tarzeau | chealer: sometimes they really do |
| 16:46.29 | chealer | tarzeau: but he said generally |
| 16:46.49 | tarzeau | chealer: did you make stats how much they do or don't? |
| 16:47.11 | chealer | tarzeau: yes, but the stats aren't free |
| 16:47.18 | tarzeau | chealer: can i buy them? |
| 16:47.29 | chealer | tarzeau: as long as you sign the NDA |
| 16:47.33 | tarzeau | i'll make stats and sell them cheaper than you! |
| 16:47.50 | tarzeau | and you can stick your NDA in your ear |
| 16:47.58 | basix | micker, it seems the author has gotten an upgrade from dell. the one that they offered me had a standard resolution of 1024x768. |
| 16:48.10 | ice_1963 | lol |
| 16:48.23 | tarzeau | !NDA |
| 16:48.23 | dpkg | I'm not allowed to tell you |
| 16:48.26 | tarzeau | hah |
| 16:48.26 | chealer | tarzeau: my stats have a GUI |
| 16:48.34 | tarzeau | chealer: gtk or qt? |
| 16:48.36 | micker | basix - ahh then you should be fine |
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| 16:49.38 | chealer | tarzeau: KDE 3.5.1 alpha |
| 16:49.47 | tarzeau | chealer: hah! not even GNUstep |
| 16:50.27 | chealer | tarzeau: no, but mine don't depend on freetype! |
| 16:50.31 | micker | stew -I'm trying the instructions to install madwifi you sent me yesterday, but I'm getting an error 2 on the build... seems to be a variety of "too many arguements" errors in if_ath_pci.c |
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| 16:51.28 | stew | micker: during the m-a a-i? |
| 16:51.41 | micker | stew - yeah |
| 16:51.43 | jetscreamer | !start a stats war |
| 16:51.51 | jetscreamer | just a thought |
| 16:51.53 | stew | micker: what version of debian? what does "uname -r" say? |
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| 16:52.07 | chealer | sheesh, I'm in a stats class ATM |
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| 16:52.30 | rox | can anybody suggest a tool for extraction of images from pdf files? |
| 16:52.30 | micker | stew - 2.6.12-1-686 |
| 16:52.47 | stew | micker: what version of debian? what does gcc --version say? |
| 16:53.00 | jetscreamer | adobe acrobat? |
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| 16:53.21 | micker | stew - Debian 4.0.2-5 |
| 16:53.25 | rox | jetscreamer: something that can be found in debian perhaps |
| 16:53.27 | jetscreamer | now that's sassy |
| 16:53.36 | Gnea | lol |
| 16:53.52 | jetscreamer | rox: all i know is xpdf seems to let you do more |
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| 16:54.10 | stew | micker: not sure than, check the bts for madwifi-source |
| 16:54.25 | rox | jetscreamer: yeah, xpdf lets you rotate it and that's it |
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| 16:55.27 | sandman | Is DB2 right about the most performance oriented database out there? |
| 16:55.47 | sandman | I see there are a lot of databases, and the only ones that look even remotely good are: Oracle, DB2, PostgreSQL, and MySQL. |
| 16:55.50 | andr | rox: try xpdf-utils |
| 16:55.51 | micker | rox -imagemagick |
| 16:55.56 | tarzeau | chealer: gnustep also works on windows and mac os x (without x server!) |
| 16:56.22 | rox | andr && micker: thanks for the tips guys |
| 16:56.31 | Sunbug | Is there any way to make dpkg-buildpackage apt-get the missing deps? |
| 16:56.31 | tarzeau | chealer: http://www.phys.ethz.ch/~sengun/GNUstep.Win.Gorm.gif |
| 16:56.41 | tarzeau | chealer: besides gnustep CAN run without freetype |
| 16:56.53 | tarzeau | Sunbug: sure |
| 16:57.12 | tarzeau | Sunbug: apt-get build-dep pkg |
| 16:57.28 | micker | rox - its simple 'convert foo.pdf image%05d.jpg' (or tiff or png or whatever) |
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| 16:58.39 | Sunbug | tarzeau: Hm. Didnt understand. Trying to build a pack from source.. -rfakeroot -us -uc :P |
| 16:58.44 | chealer | tarzeau: my stats don't look horrible |
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| 16:58.57 | andr | rox: or you can use ghetto-style-pdf-image-extraction, you do a screenshot of the window =) |
| 16:58.57 | tarzeau | Sunbug: i use debulid |
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| 17:00.05 | rox | andr: i have thought about that |
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| 17:01.21 | tarzeau | debuild of course |
| 17:01.34 | tarzeau | chealer: doesn't look horrible , let me quote grey_gandalf: |
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| 17:01.49 | tarzeau | chealer: "One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female with choosen make-up and dress." |
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| 17:02.22 | Johan | Hi folks, im trying to install php on my server, apt-get install php4 works find, but one thing.. there is no binarys? I want to be able to run php-scripts from the console with "php file.php". How can i install the php binary and not just the module? |
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| 17:02.57 | jelly | Johan: install php4-cli |
| 17:03.13 | sohmestra | does anyone know what's up with the mirrors.rcn.net mirror? |
| 17:03.35 | eis_os | hmm, someone could suggest a good tutorial about fastcgi + php? |
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| 17:03.57 | Johan | jelly: TANKS! you saved my day! |
| 17:04.00 | eis_os | + fastcgi wrapper for su'ing to the right user |
| 17:04.08 | stew | eis_os: ask #php |
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| 17:05.05 | Reliant | I'm trying to play MIDI files in KDE, but I get an error saying /dev/sequencer couldn't be read for information. Timidity works fine |
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| 17:05.17 | stew | Reliant: are you using alsa or oss? |
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| 17:05.22 | tarzeau | chealer: read also the Booz-Allen Study at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/ |
| 17:05.37 | tarzeau | Reliant: #debian-kde |
| 17:06.02 | Johan | jelly: a follow up question then, do you know how to enably mysql in php-cli? |
| 17:06.12 | stew | Johan: apt-get install php4-mysql |
| 17:06.23 | Reliant | OSS |
| 17:06.47 | samuel | sup all |
| 17:07.31 | chealer | tarzeau: hah, my stats' niceness is independant of sexual attraction. even grandfathers can use my stats |
| 17:07.32 | stew | Reliant: and the /dev/sequencer file exists? are you in the audio group? |
| 17:07.43 | samuel | anyone know when the sid repository will be back up? ive tried ftp.us ftp.uk ftp.ca, they all seem to be failing |
| 17:07.49 | Reliant | yes to both, I also made it 777 to be sure I had access |
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| 17:08.13 | tarzeau | chealer: crap! i'll go dating now, and othere people can jerk off yer stats! :) |
| 17:08.20 | stew | samuel: they are up, what error are you getting |
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| 17:08.54 | chealer | !win cheal |
| 17:08.54 | Aronofsky | hi everyone |
| 17:08.55 | dpkg | Congratulations, cheal! You have won a one way ticket to Cleveland! |
| 17:09.05 | samuel | stew: just a sec... im running it again to get the error |
| 17:09.16 | stew | samuel: put it in a pastebin, don't paste here |
| 17:09.38 | chealer | tarzeau: well, KDE was invented after those stats were published |
| 17:10.08 | stew | my lord, have you two not beaten this horse dead yet |
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| 17:10.26 | tarzeau | stew: can you make stats about debian/control files? |
| 17:10.37 | tarzeau | and also /copyright about urls to homepages/download pages? |
| 17:10.40 | fichtel23 | snafuzzy |
| 17:10.43 | tarzeau | you could sell it to chealer |
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| 17:11.13 | _joey | what block dev is used for usb ext hdd on 2.6.11 ? /dev/sda ? |
| 17:11.17 | Aronofsky | i got a probleme with my postfix+amavis+spamassassin install, actually the spam detection is working, the spam are recognized but i ain"t got any headers added in my mail to specifiy the analyzis ... i dont get why, my conf seems ok |
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| 17:12.19 | stew | _joey: depends, it could also be sdb sdc sdd etc, /msg dpkg usb-storage ; if those modules are loaded it should show up in fdisk -l |
| 17:12.42 | stew | Aronofsky: how do you know its working then? |
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| 17:13.19 | Aronofsky | stew, because i see in the log the mail has been rejected if it has to |
| 17:13.38 | sandman | I'm confused as to what a DBMS is, exactly. It's not hte database engine, it's not the program used to create the scripts used to generate tables and data, etc... is it the module of the database system that interprets the scripts or something? |
| 17:13.45 | davis | hello |
| 17:14.00 | sandman | Or is a DBMS the entire database software package? |
| 17:14.02 | davis | is there a way to install a X.org 6.8.0 release? |
| 17:14.14 | jetscreamer | isn't that kind of old? |
| 17:14.21 | jetscreamer | go for 7.0 |
| 17:14.23 | jetscreamer | :p |
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| 17:15.18 | TravisT | DBMS is the entire database software package |
| 17:15.20 | dvm1981 | When i do 'CTRL+ALT+Backspace' does this restart the X server ? So that the configuration of XFree86 are re readed ? |
| 17:15.21 | jetscreamer | davis: which flavor of debian, sarge/stable? |
| 17:15.27 | davis | my fglrx driver requires 6.8.0 |
| 17:15.32 | davis | i am using unstable. |
| 17:15.38 | stew | Aronofsky: can you show me an example log entry? |
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| 17:15.52 | Aronofsky | stew, yes , just a sec |
| 17:16.00 | jetscreamer | dvm1981: /etc/init.d/?dm restart will |
| 17:16.01 | Knight_Lord | Is there any way to clear the cached file from memory? |
| 17:16.20 | stew | dvm1981: yes |
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| 17:16.46 | Estes2 | In my sysctl.conf, i got this: sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward=1 and when i run sysctl -p i get this : error: 'sys.net.ipv4.ip_forward' is an unknown key Anyone ? |
| 17:16.47 | mbuf | where is the tclConfig.sh script present in debian sarge 3.1r0a? |
| 17:16.54 | jetscreamer | davis: might be a pita, since it's 6.9 in sid |
| 17:17.15 | Aronofsky | stew , Jan 11 23:09:37 debian-server amavis[26717]: (26717-01) Blocked SPAM, <root@lephayju.dyndns.org> -> <julien@lephayju.dyndns.org>, quarantine: /var/lib/amavis/quarantine, Message-ID: <20060111220936.B13B37ED96@debian-server.lephayju.dyndns.org>, mail_id: Tw9tU34ADAsV, Hits: 999.999, 862 ms |
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| 17:17.32 | TravisT | how's the vid-card support these days, on the install? GForce FX5200 works? |
| 17:17.39 | wethion | Heyas all. I need a suggestion for a web based calendaring system with a simple interface my technically backward parents will use with the power my exec. admin asst. fiancee wil be able to harness. preferrably not tied to KDE or Gnome, since I run neither on my web server, and supporting secure connections. I can't seem to find it on google. Ideas? |
| 17:17.40 | dvm1981 | When i do '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' his happend on some else, so in awaiting that i find i sollution to this, i need to setup Xinerama and have some troubles, so i would not to restart constant the pc because troubles of '/etc/init.d/gdm restart' (he hangs and not more respond after...). |
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| 17:18.12 | norskfjord | I have a problem, I am using Firestarter and I have allowed port 80 on incoming and outgoing but people still cant access my apache |
| 17:18.13 | stew | Aronofsky: so you are running spamassassin via amavis? |
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| 17:18.22 | Aronofsky | Stew , yes |
| 17:18.41 | TravisT | norskfjord: it may be your ISP is blocking it. |
| 17:18.57 | dvm1981 | So and my Dual monitor is not really solved, these two works now but, the twoo screens are duplicated, and would like to use one screen for each use, so split it in two parts |
| 17:19.00 | stew | Aronofsky: ok, that i've never done. do you know what options amavis is passing to spamassassin? |
| 17:19.05 | lakcaj | Is there something like an rpm to deb utility? |
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| 17:19.12 | wethion | lakcaj, alien |
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| 17:19.33 | Aronofsky | Stew, not really |
| 17:19.33 | stew | dvm1981: put your XF86Config-4 in a pastebin |
| 17:19.34 | lakcaj | wethion, man, I knew that... wtf was I thinking? Brain fart! Thanks. |
| 17:19.43 | wethion | lakcaj, NP. :) |
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| 17:20.02 | davis | if i include testing in my apt-sources, can i specify to install the testing version of xorg xserver? |
| 17:20.03 | norskfjord | TravisT, no, when the firewall is off it works fine |
| 17:20.05 | dvm1981 | stew: ;-) |
| 17:20.16 | lakcaj | davis, google for apt pinning |
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| 17:20.26 | jetscreamer | !apt-pinning |
| 17:20.26 | dpkg | apt-pinning is, like, read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
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| 17:20.45 | stew | davis: "apt-get -t testing install packagename" or pinning above, or apt-get install package=version |
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| 17:21.29 | Aronofsky | stew, actually im pretty sure it got something to do the "content-filter-mode" conf file of amavis where "@bypass_spam_checks_maps" are defined but i don't really get it |
| 17:21.39 | student | why does this command not update my iptables? iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -p tcp --dport 80 -j REDIRECT --to-ports 8080 |
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| 17:22.04 | TravisT | Does GForce FX5200 work after new install 3.2r0a DVD? |
| 17:22.25 | wethion | what's up with packages.debian.org? |
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| 17:22.32 | stew | Aronofsky: ask in #amavis or #postfix maybe |
| 17:22.37 | wizzomafizzo | install: cannot stat `debian/buildinfo': No such file or directory Can anyone tell me why I get this error when I run "make-kpkg kernel-image" for the 2.6.15 kernel? |
| 17:22.44 | stew | wethion: the search function was removed becuase the server is overloaded |
| 17:22.53 | stew | wethion: use apt-cache search and apt-file search |
| 17:22.57 | samuel | whats the address of pastebot |
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| 17:23.10 | stew | !paster |
| 17:23.10 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 17:23.12 | Ronin | samuel: /whois paster |
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| 17:23.34 | Aronofsky | stew, i tried but nobody seems to answer, those chans are really dead |
| 17:24.12 | mula` | n'abend |
| 17:24.19 | samuel | stew: sorry about the time it took, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1543 |
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| 17:24.26 | Aronofsky | stew, do you use spamassassin without amavis ? |
| 17:25.00 | slept | what do the | in package dependencies stand for ? |
| 17:25.10 | azeem | "or" |
| 17:25.26 | slept | thanks |
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| 17:25.35 | stew | samuel: i can get that file: ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz no problem, you must be having a network / firewall problem. have you tried http instead of ftp? |
| 17:25.45 | stew | Aronofsky: yes |
| 17:25.51 | Carl | help |
| 17:26.03 | Carl | i need help starting debian install |
| 17:26.14 | centrx | Carl, ask away |
| 17:26.24 | Carl | i got 31r1 |
| 17:26.29 | Aronofsky | stew, and what config do you need to do to have it working with postfix |
| 17:26.32 | Carl | i got CD 1 and 2 |
| 17:26.50 | samuel | stew: no, but i dont see why, ive not changed anything since yesterday |
| 17:27.01 | Carl | its says u can boot from CD1, but its not boting |
| 17:27.05 | Carl | booting |
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| 17:27.26 | Carl | and i want to get rid of windows and go debian |
| 17:27.29 | samuel | stew: thanks, ill give http a try |
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| 17:27.31 | stew | samuel: well the problem isn't on the server side, so it is either on your machine, or some machine in the middle blocking the traffic |
| 17:27.52 | dvm1981 | I have troubles to setup 'Xinerama' my XF86Config4 are on http://pastebin.com/502622 It would be nice if someone can help me please |
| 17:27.58 | centrx | Carl, that may be a setting with the basic internal software of your PC, that is the BIOS |
| 17:27.59 | stew | samuel: can you ping it? |
| 17:28.09 | Carl | i tried that |
| 17:28.13 | centrx | Carl, you can enter the BIOS using some key or key combination that is likely stated |
| 17:28.16 | centrx | Carl, ok what happened |
| 17:28.20 | Carl | i set it to boot from CDROM first |
| 17:28.30 | Carl | but i did not notice the CD |
| 17:28.43 | dvm1981 | I have followed the instructions of the Xinerama-Howoto on TDLP but i have some trouble with the 'ServerLayout' i think |
| 17:28.48 | centrx | Carl, another possibility is that the way in which you burned the CD did not preserve the special boot properties of the CD |
| 17:29.19 | samuel | stew: i can, thats odd no? |
| 17:29.23 | Carl | i burnt directed from iso to CD using NERO |
| 17:29.25 | stew | dvm1981: you have one Device section on fglrx and the other on ATI (which deosn't exist), either switch them both to fglrx or ati |
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| 17:29.57 | stew | samuel: not really, i wouldn't be suprised if some firewall in the middle was not allowing / misconfigured for active ftp |
| 17:30.09 | samuel | stew: and i can telnet to ftp "220 saens.debian.org FTP server (vsftpd) |
| 17:30.09 | samuel | " |
| 17:30.35 | stew | samuel: i bet it would work with passive ftp |
| 17:30.47 | dvm1981 | stew : I see it now. The driver section there ... |
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| 17:31.49 | dvm1981 | stew : What is the best to switch to fglrx or ati (in lowercaser) |
| 17:32.11 | Estes2 | where should i add a script path for it to be executed at startup ? and only at startup... Adding it in /etc/init.d and run update-rc.d ? or is there something else do-able ? |
| 17:32.17 | stew | dvm1981: do you need 3d support? which chipset is it? |
| 17:32.28 | stew | dvm1981: 9200? 9600? |
| 17:32.35 | dvm1981 | stew : Yes i hopefull try i more than ^x |
| 17:32.48 | dvm1981 | stew: 9600Se |
| 17:32.58 | stew | dvm1981: do you need 3d support? |
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| 17:33.09 | dvm1981 | stew : yes sorry |
| 17:33.11 | stew | dvm1981: then you need to use fglrx |
| 17:33.17 | cahoot | Estes2: a cronob @reboot? |
| 17:33.26 | cahoot | Estes2: a cronjob |
| 17:33.31 | dvm1981 | stew : i try it now and comme back again to let it know |
| 17:33.31 | green-mouse | Hi. Somebody know how i can get files trasfer log in my samba? I tried to ask on #samba but don`t get answer. |
| 17:33.41 | sohmestra | Estes2: /etc/init.d |
| 17:34.03 | stew | Estes2: what does the script do? |
| 17:34.05 | sohmestra | Estes2: then too update-rc.d --add <name of script> or something |
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| 17:34.13 | sohmestra | Estes2: man update-rc.d |
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| 17:35.05 | centrx | Carl, those are really the only two possibilities i can think of because there is no reason the CD should not boot if those two things are in order |
| 17:35.09 | Estes2 | stew, echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward (i tried to put it in sysctl.conf but i get this error when i run sysctl -p : error: 'sys.net.ipv4.ip_forward' is an unknown key) |
| 17:35.24 | Estes2 | i don't get it and i find nothing on google |
| 17:35.44 | stew | Estes2: edit /etc/networking/options |
| 17:35.53 | Estes2 | sohmestra, i already know this, it was in my question, but thanks... |
| 17:36.22 | Estes2 | stew, oh, ok, thanks :) |
| 17:36.28 | stew | Estes2: but wait |
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| 17:36.37 | citricoder | hi all |
| 17:36.39 | Carl | soo how do i make install, and get rid of windows, if it will not boot up |
| 17:36.40 | stew | Estes2: that is deprecated, and the sysctl method should really work |
| 17:36.47 | stew | can you put the exact line from /etc/sysctl.conf here? |
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| 17:37.08 | sohmestra | Estes2: or do sysctl -a |grep forward |
| 17:37.18 | sohmestra | Estes2: to see what the key should be |
| 17:37.19 | citricoder | I have a trouble with LaTEX, amsmath files does not exist! |
| 17:37.20 | stew | Estes2: oh, it should be just netipv4.ipforward, without the sys on the front |
| 17:37.41 | stew | Estes2: err net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 17:37.56 | jjazz | citricoder: Try #latex |
| 17:38.06 | citricoder | \join #latex |
| 17:38.10 | jjazz | citricoder: (generally they're helpful, but you might have to wait until somebody notices your question) |
| 17:38.10 | citricoder | XD |
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| 17:38.43 | Carl | help |
| 17:38.51 | andr | Carl: have you tried to open CD1 with windos? |
| 17:39.01 | Carl | in what way |
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| 17:39.10 | Carl | explore it |
| 17:39.12 | Carl | YES |
| 17:39.43 | Carl | how do i get it to install DEBIAN, when i will not boot |
| 17:39.47 | andr | Carl: can you see the contents without problems? |
| 17:39.51 | cire | Hi, i want to buy a webcam which shall run under Linux. (debian). Does anyone have experiences with webcams under linux? (should work witz IM Programs) |
| 17:39.55 | Carl | yes |
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| 17:40.06 | Carl | the cd just will not boot |
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| 17:40.25 | jjazz | Carl: Do you have any other bootable CD's? Try to boot with one of those. That will tell you whether the problem is the CD or the BIOS settings. |
| 17:40.39 | Carl | yes windows, and thats does boot |
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| 17:41.45 | andr | Carl: have you checked if the downloaded ISO image is corrupted? |
| 17:41.49 | jjazz | Carl: Then try burning another CD, a different image or else you can order a CD or DVD set online. |
| 17:41.55 | odla | when i try to upgrade from sarge to etch the kernel forces me into maintainence mode and does me there is an inconsistency, asks me to run fsck. after i run fsck xorg doesn't work. anyone else having similar problems? |
| 17:42.00 | jjazz | Carl: check the md5 of the image |
| 17:42.06 | Carl | well it burnt of ok from ISO to CD |
| 17:42.21 | Carl | i used Nero to burn it |
| 17:42.24 | Ronin | doesnt mean the iso was ok Carl |
| 17:42.33 | tr1gg3r | Carl, check md5 sum before burning make sure it is right |
| 17:42.48 | Carl | how do i know if its right? |
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| 17:43.03 | Carl | how do i check? |
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| 17:43.19 | tr1gg3r | carl, it will match the provided checksum |
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| 17:43.31 | jjazz | Carl: Check the md5 of the file against the md5 on the site you downloaded it from. |
| 17:43.37 | mbuf | has anyone cross-compiled ecos on debian ? |
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| 17:43.58 | Carl | not sure what u mean |
| 17:44.00 | tr1gg3r | Carl, u will need to google for that cuz i dont know how to do md5sum on windows |
| 17:44.03 | andr | Carl: you need a windos version of md5sum, try here: http://www.openoffice.org/dev_docs/using_md5sums.html |
| 17:44.03 | stew | !win32 md5sum |
| 17:44.03 | dpkg | http://downloads.activestate.com/contrib/md5sum/Windows/ |
| 17:44.34 | stew | dpkg: win32 md5sum =~ s/<reply>// |
| 17:44.35 | dpkg | OK, stew |
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| 17:46.38 | moshii | does anyone know a way of reading fat volume labels without mtools? |
| 17:48.02 | Carl | i type that as it is: dpkg: win32 md5sum =~ s/<reply>// in run command of what |
| 17:48.09 | Carl | cuz i do not understand |
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| 17:48.24 | azeem | Carl: that wasn't for you |
| 17:48.35 | azeem | stew was talking to dpkg, the bot |
| 17:48.40 | Carl | ok |
| 17:48.44 | Carl | brb |
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| 17:49.12 | neuterspAWAY | Anybody here use nicotine as their SoulSeek client? |
| 17:49.14 | stew | Carl: the link that dpkg spit out a few lines above was a url to a program you could use to check the md5 of the iso |
| 17:49.53 | debiankid | grrrr im having trouble setting up my dhcp serve r |
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| 17:50.00 | debiankid | i dont know how to make it work |
| 17:50.10 | avu | hi |
| 17:50.20 | stew | debiankid: ask a specific question and we'll try to help |
| 17:50.24 | Aronofsky | can anyone explain me the role of the line : @bypass_spam_checks_maps = ( \%bypass_spam_checks, \@bypass_spam_checks_acl, \$bypass_spam_checks_re); in amavis config file "15-content_filter_mode" |
| 17:50.54 | avu | is there a program in debian which I can use to make a plant layout? I tried using dia but it does not seem to be fit for this (ready made symbols for stuff like doors/windows is missing) |
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| 17:52.20 | pack | if i apt-get install kernel-image-2,4,27-2-686-smp then apt-get install kernel-source-2,4,27, copy the config- file from /boot and make oldconfig && make bzImage, why do I end up with two differing binaries? shouldn't they be identifcal |
| 17:52.34 | Waggie | Good day, folks.. |
| 17:53.10 | starfishy | pack: are you sure you are using the same version of gcc debian was using? |
| 17:53.26 | starfishy | if not, the binaries would most likely be different |
| 17:53.51 | jelly | pack: nope, they shouldn't. Unless you use the exact same compiler, and compile at exact same time on a host with the same name. ;-) |
| 17:54.16 | Waggie | I'm having an issue with amavis.. I'm running Debian Etch on i386, I upgraded amavis yesterday and even after verifying that bypass_spam_checks was commented out, it's not filtering any viruses or spam. |
| 17:54.26 | Waggie | Does anyone have any suggestions? |
| 17:54.42 | pack | starfishy: i'm not a hundred percent on what the debian kernel .....ohhhh crap, your right the compile takes the stuff into acct (host name and stuff)...that makes sense. |
| 17:54.58 | pack | modules for each should be interchangeable though right? |
| 17:55.02 | dondelelcaro | Aronofsky: it's making an array from a hashref, an arrayref, and a scalar ref. |
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| 17:55.10 | jelly | Waggie: what version are you running now? Maybe 2.3.* got into testing and you didn't update the config files? |
| 17:55.18 | Vladie | can I run kde through an SSH client like Putty? |
| 17:55.25 | starfishy | that too |
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| 17:56.16 | starfishy | vladie: you can run kde apps through the ssh client |
| 17:56.21 | stew | Vladie: yes, putty can do x11 forwarding to a local xserver |
| 17:56.37 | starfishy | if you want to forward the whole desktop something like VNC might fit your bill |
| 17:56.51 | Aronofsky | Waggie, actually i got the same problem, it seems that before you had to comment out that line but now you had uncomment it ... i really dont get it, try and tell me what |
| 17:58.12 | Aronofsky | dondelelcaro, but to have amavis working with spamassassion should I comment or uncomment that line ? |
| 17:58.32 | Vladie | @stew / starfishy: I'm trying to setup D2GS through wine and would first like to test whether this works with an x server before I try to get it to run without x server... however I do not have a linux server at home |
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| 17:58.44 | jason | lo |
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| 17:59.11 | starfishy | whats d2gs? |
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| 17:59.28 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
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| 17:59.45 | starfishy | if the application runs on X (in a window) you can use ssh with the -X option to forward the window to your home machine |
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| 18:00.12 | starfishy | you cannot forward the whole desktop (at least to the best of my knowledge) |
| 18:00.31 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
| 18:00.49 | cmorgan | i'm running debian unstable should i have hotplug or udev installed? |
| 18:00.55 | jelly | starfishy: you can forward the whole desktop using vnc's x0vncserver, though. |
| 18:01.04 | starfishy | jelly: thats what I said |
| 18:01.06 | stew | cmorgan: do you use gnome-volume-manager? |
| 18:01.21 | cmorgan | stew: no, not sure what that is even |
| 18:01.22 | Aronofsky | Waggie, so , did you try ? |
| 18:01.24 | Vladie | starfishy: As far as I know wine doesn't need kde or a desktop, just the xserver... well, thanks for your input... I'm giving a try :) |
| 18:01.35 | cmorgan | stew: i noticed udev was newer so i figured that was the way to go but i wanted to ask |
| 18:01.39 | Switchplaces | must go today 2 alienware area51-m 7700 notebooks. price 600 for 2. message me if interested on msn at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, aim at ogd443 or yahoo at thishastogotoday. do have an auction set up on yahoo auctions for these. |
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| 18:02.20 | stew | cmorgan: you might have some modules being loaded by hotplug, if you remove it you might need to add those modules to /etc/modules to make them loaded at boot |
| 18:02.26 | starfishy | vladie: wine doesnt need kde |
| 18:02.35 | Ronin | !ops Switchplaces is a spam bot |
| 18:02.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: Switchplaces is a spam bot |
| 18:02.50 | cmorgan | stew: ahh. i thought udev took care of that for me? |
| 18:02.53 | starfishy | as long as the app will properly run on the remote system you can forward its application window through ssh |
| 18:02.58 | Ronin | managed to move to freenode too i see |
| 18:03.10 | stew | cmorgan: udev won't load kernel modules, but it takes over all of the other hotplug functionality |
| 18:03.13 | cmorgan | stew: one other question. on machines with udev they don't seem to power off properly when being shutdown |
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| 18:03.22 | stew | cmorgan: dunno |
| 18:03.24 | cmorgan | stew: machines with hotplug do shutdown properly |
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| 18:03.33 | jason__ | just installed fresh copy of apache2 on sarge...i noticed in the httpd.conf file that there is no "document root." although, there is a 'server root.' is this normal? |
| 18:03.48 | starfishy | cmorgan: that cant be a general udev problem, my machines power off properly with udev |
| 18:04.18 | stew | cmorgan: possibly hotplug is loading apm or acpi modules that are needed for shutdown |
| 18:04.21 | cmorgan | starfishy: its very odd. all of the machines with udev don't seem to shutdown when you run 'poweroff' or normal shutdown |
| 18:04.47 | cmorgan | stew: i don't see any acpi or apm modules loaded when looking at lsmod |
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| 18:05.03 | dondelelcaro | jason__: because the compiled default is presumably set to the place where Debian has the DocumentRoot |
| 18:05.39 | jason__ | dondelelcaro, okay..so, httpd.conf is still the main configuration file for apache2, right? |
| 18:05.46 | stew | jason__: look in sites-available/default |
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| 18:05.59 | dondelelcaro | jason__: in any case, if you want to do something different, drop a configuration file into /etc/apache2/sites-available/ and a2ensite |
| 18:06.05 | dondelelcaro | jason__: no, apache.conf is. |
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| 18:07.45 | jason__ | dondelelcaro, oops..i amde a change in httpd.conf...i removed the two comment symbols from the .php handler lines |
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| 18:10.01 | davis | hello |
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| 18:10.14 | Nyphetamine | hi some one talk spanish? |
| 18:10.52 | jjazz | !es |
| 18:10.52 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:12.42 | Nyphetamine | thankyou |
| 18:12.59 | TravisT | Does GForce FX5200 work after new install 3.2r0a DVD? |
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| 18:13.33 | clydem | hello |
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| 18:14.19 | soymilk | anyone have an tip on setting up an external monitor with xorg? how do you do it? |
| 18:14.36 | Ronin | external monitor? never seen an internal one |
| 18:14.55 | TravisT | laptop |
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| 18:14.59 | Waggie | jelly: I am running 2.3 and I moved my amavis.conf file into /etc/amavis/conf.d/ |
| 18:15.02 | soymilk | i understand having and extra "screen" and a "monitor" section -but how do you actually activate one or the other? |
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| 18:15.53 | jjazz | soymilk: I believe that depends on your video card. I do dual head on a laptop, and I know my settings don't necessarily work for other cards. |
| 18:16.14 | jjazz | soymilk: Do you want to use them both at once, or one at a time? |
| 18:16.31 | Livingroom | gentlmen of debian |
| 18:16.36 | Livingroom | i have the following problem: |
| 18:16.39 | Waggie | jelly: Do I need to start from scratch with my amavis configuration? |
| 18:16.53 | Livingroom | i have been fired from my job and i will soon be living on the street. what do you recommend? |
| 18:17.08 | jjazz | Livingroom: First, change your nick. |
| 18:17.12 | jelly | Waggie: If it's a pre-2.3 config, I'd say yes. |
| 18:17.15 | clydem | Livingroom: tried looking for another job? |
| 18:17.22 | soymilk | jjazz: nvidia Go5200 |
| 18:17.29 | Livingroom | clydem: i have; options in my area are severely limited |
| 18:17.34 | Waggie | jelly: *sighs* Ok, damn. Thanks for the help. |
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| 18:18.01 | soymilk | jjazz: there is a function-key combo on the keyboard that can activate one, the other or both simulateously, but how does xorg know which one? |
| 18:18.07 | jjazz | soymilk: Are you trying to get dual heads? Or do you just want to be able to use one monitor at a time? |
| 18:18.10 | Livingroom | jjazz: change my nick ? |
| 18:18.29 | jelly | Waggie: at least, I remember reading something in the similar vein on the devel list for amavisd-new package. |
| 18:18.30 | jjazz | Livingroom: Obviously, if you are homeless, your nick should be something like "Curb" or maybe "Alley" |
| 18:18.41 | Livingroom | jjazz: ah, i see. well, i said i'd "soon" be homeless. |
| 18:18.47 | soymilk | jjazz: don't need dual heads - just basically have either or both work. right now the mode switch when it goes to the external toasts the internal display |
| 18:18.59 | clydem | Livingroom: check out the peace corps |
| 18:19.09 | Livingroom | clydem: would also like to avoid iraq :) |
| 18:19.24 | soymilk | jjazz: i think the mode or refresh rate gets out of sync with the internal |
| 18:19.30 | clydem | Livingroom: good call there... |
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| 18:20.48 | drp | abrotman: I figured out why my nvida kernel module wasn't loading |
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| 18:21.16 | SerajewelKS | is it possible to give vnc4server an alternate startup script or program instead of the default ~/.vnc/xstartup? |
| 18:21.18 | drp | abrotman: you have to rebuild the nvidia kernel whenever you switch to a different linux kernel |
| 18:21.39 | jjazz | soymilk: Ah. So there's a key that talks to the BIOS and tells it which video card / port to activate? |
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| 18:22.08 | soymilk | drp: or just use the build-in "nv" driver instead of the external nvidia one... |
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| 18:22.36 | drp | soymilk: oh ... I wasn't aware of that but yeah I'll keep that in mind too |
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| 18:23.02 | soymilk | jjazz: yes |
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| 18:24.36 | jjazz | soymilk: AFAIK, xorg can't change its setting based on detected screens. You have to edit the xorg.conf file for each setup, swap in the xorg.conf you need and then restart the X server. There might be an easier way, but that's how I do it (i.e. when I undock my Thinkpad). |
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| 18:26.48 | soymilk | jjazz: ugh |
| 18:27.15 | jelly | Livingroom: I have an offer here in Zagreb, Croatia. Care to relocate? ;-) |
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| 18:27.24 | jason__ | i got a weird error when i went to startup apache2..it says that my httpd.conf has exceeded the maximum depth of 128, and it says i probably have a recursion somewhere. |
| 18:27.28 | jjazz | soymilk: Yeah, it's ugly. I haven't found a better solution. |
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| 18:27.35 | soymilk | jjazz: i see a lot of sample configs on google where people have two monitor and two screen stanzas, but no word on how those actually get activated |
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| 18:28.21 | jjazz | soymilk: Well, they are always active. When you start X11, it sees the screens and responds appropriately. There's nothing to do to "activate" stuff except run X11. |
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| 18:29.29 | jason__ | can someone help me with the possible recursion error? |
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| 18:29.41 | csalad | hy |
| 18:29.50 | csalad | how can i limited the internet speed? |
| 18:30.09 | vahvarh | csalad: either kernel-way or shaperd |
| 18:30.30 | jjazz | soymilk: Gotta run (lunch). Good luck. |
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| 18:30.51 | Lazbien | Hey all |
| 18:30.56 | csalad | hm... |
| 18:31.03 | Lazbien | any one know when samba 3.0.20 will be anywhere near stable? |
| 18:31.13 | jelly | jason__: what does "apache2ctl configtest" say? |
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| 18:32.11 | jason__ | jelly, it runs the usage data |
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| 18:32.39 | jelly | hm |
| 18:32.57 | jason__ | jelly, i installed apache2 and php using the apt method |
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| 18:33.02 | secureboot | will my system, if it receives a hostname from dhcpd, set my hostname to be what it receives? or only in some circumstances? |
| 18:33.21 | jelly | jason__: sorry, that would be "apache2ctl -t". |
| 18:34.01 | jelly | I'm still running 1.3, and configtest checks for errors there. |
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| 18:34.13 | abrotman | drp: duh :) |
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| 18:34.34 | jason__ | jelly, again, just the usage data |
| 18:34.47 | drp | abrotman: errr |
| 18:34.54 | jelly | jason__: strange. works for me (tm) |
| 18:35.08 | drp | abrotman: well I asked that question several times last night and noone seemed to know |
| 18:35.11 | drp | abrotman: or cared to tell me |
| 18:36.03 | jason__ | jelly, does apache2 have to be running? |
| 18:36.14 | jelly | jason__: I think not. |
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| 18:36.38 | jelly | jason__: it doesn't. |
| 18:37.05 | abrotman | drp: i don't remember you asking me .. sorry .. i could have told you that was the case |
| 18:37.24 | jason__ | jelly, come to think of it, my apache2 started going wrong when i went into my apache2.conf files and took away the commnet symbols from the php addhandler lines |
| 18:37.24 | abrotman | drp: just so you're aware .. the fglrx drivers from ATI have the same issue |
| 18:37.36 | abrotman | drp: as probably any third party driver would |
| 18:37.42 | Mar_Garina | Anybody tried nfs4 on debian? Is it stable for production? |
| 18:37.44 | stew | Lazbien: stable never gets new versions, so it won't be until the current testing becomes stable will probably be somewhere around early 2007 but nobody can know for sure |
| 18:37.44 | drp | k, thanks |
| 18:38.01 | jelly | jason__: well but it back then. ;-) |
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| 18:38.06 | jelly | s/but/put/ |
| 18:38.12 | drp | it had been a long time since I installed that module and I couldn't remember if it was kernel dependent |
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| 18:38.45 | drp | thanks though |
| 18:38.51 | drp | I'll remember it now |
| 18:38.54 | drp | : ) |
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| 18:39.32 | cisee | hrm anyone successfully used mdadm --grow to increase the size of a raid5 array ? |
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| 18:40.39 | secureboot | Mar_Garina: i was wondering that myself. |
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| 18:41.38 | Mar_Garina | secureboot: Do you know if it is defined stable already? |
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| 18:41.58 | shermhead | yes |
| 18:42.13 | secureboot | Mar_Garina: i have no idea - i know some people that won't use it because its "only a sun standard" and not industry, but i don't know if they're full of it or not |
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| 18:42.55 | klync | secureboot: so, a better alternative is smb? ;) |
| 18:42.56 | jason__ | jelly, well, i fixed the comment and it still tells me i have an error in my syntax in my httpd.conf file and i have a possible recursion error. |
| 18:43.13 | Mar_Garina | klync: smb between unices? anybody does that? |
| 18:43.18 | zumbi | !hi |
| 18:43.19 | dpkg | hello, zumbi |
| 18:43.29 | Mar_Garina | say, how do I change the default bootloader from lilo -> grub? (both are installed) |
| 18:43.43 | klync | Mar_Garina: ya, i know ppl who do, but i think only b/c they already have an environmnent where smb is required |
| 18:44.24 | secureboot | klync: i'll use nsfv4, but I dont' know if its a good idea or not... |
| 18:44.26 | abrotman | secureboot: is nfs3 an industry standard ? |
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| 18:44.35 | Mar_Garina | klync: sounds evil, my env. is windows+linux, so we use nfs+smb on the fileserver. |
| 18:44.39 | zumbi | do you know an easy graphic file manager that can mount other partitions easily (Gnome). This is for somebody that it isn't used to console mode. |
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| 18:44.48 | secureboot | abrotman: i have no idea about these things... i just use them if they work for me :) |
| 18:44.50 | abrotman | zumbi: nautilus ? |
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| 18:45.27 | zumbi | abrotman: how do you mount /dev/hda2 on ~/mnt with nautilus ? |
| 18:45.37 | abrotman | is it defined in the fstab ? |
| 18:45.43 | zumbi | yes |
| 18:45.47 | jelly | jason__: do you have any include lines in your config? |
| 18:45.52 | abrotman | did you check the "My Computer" thingie ? |
| 18:46.28 | jason__ | jelly, let me see.. |
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| 18:46.44 | zumbi | abrotman: it is not defined at /etc/fstab |
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| 18:46.48 | jason__ | jelly, here they are: Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.load |
| 18:46.48 | jason__ | Include /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/*.conf |
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| 18:47.20 | migiel | how can i run a precompiled 32bit program on my 64bit platform? |
| 18:47.20 | abrotman | zumbi: then i'm not sure you can .. i don't use nautilus enough .. but i know that my camera is defined in that thing .. and i can plug it in and mount it from there |
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| 18:47.28 | abrotman | migiel: chroot .. amd64? |
| 18:47.46 | jelly | jason__: that looks ok. |
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| 18:47.59 | tull | hello. |
| 18:48.02 | migiel | abrotman: im not sure what you mean, but i run amd64 indeed |
| 18:48.05 | brendan__ | is there some documentation that explains how to create a custom install cd with your own packages, and how to get them to installed by default(by using tasksel or something)? |
| 18:48.11 | zumbi | abrotman: you are probably right, i'll fix this, thanks |
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| 18:49.29 | creature | Hello. Please excuse the vagueish question. Recently when trying to do an "apt-get update" or apt-get dist-upgrade" on my sarge system, I've started being told that a lot of my packages are unsigned. I've got the latest debian-keyrings package. So what's happened? |
| 18:49.34 | jelly | jason__: I dunno, if it detects recursion, there probably is one. Are those the only include lines? My (I think default) apache2.conf has several more... |
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| 18:49.44 | abrotman | migiel: ask #debian-amd64 about chroot for 32bit binaries |
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| 18:49.53 | abrotman | !custom netinst |
| 18:49.54 | dpkg | hmm... custom netinst is http://wiki.osuosl.org/display/LNX/Debian+on+Dell+Servers or http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/installer/doc/custom-kernel.txt or http://people.debian.org/~osamu/hackdi/ or http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianCustomCD |
| 18:50.01 | abrotman | brendan__: ^^ |
| 18:50.02 | migiel | abrotman: ok thx |
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| 18:50.12 | jelly | jason__: you mentioned before you edited httpd.conf... can you try moving it away altogether? |
| 18:50.31 | jason__ | jelly, the full error says yntax error on line 116 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: |
| 18:50.31 | jason__ | Exceeded maximum include depth of 128. You have probably a recursion somewhere. |
| 18:50.49 | jason__ | jelly, yes i can...maybe try renaming it as a text file |
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| 18:51.55 | stew | jason__: are you the one that had copied apache2.conf to httpd.conf? |
| 18:52.27 | stew | jason__: does your httpd.conf contain a line like "Include /etc/apache2/httpd.conf"? |
| 18:52.43 | jason__ | stew, let me see |
| 18:52.45 | jelly | stew, jason__ : that would explain the recusion, since httpd.conf is included from default apache2.conf. |
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| 18:52.56 | delox99 | hi all |
| 18:53.00 | Frem | Hello |
| 18:53.02 | delox99 | i have a bind question |
| 18:53.03 | brendan__ | thanks |
| 18:53.15 | jason__ | stew, it has Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#]* |
| 18:53.20 | cisee | delox99: just ask it =D |
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| 18:53.35 | delox99 | when i nslookup ns1.mydomain.com it says that it s attached to a certain ip |
| 18:53.37 | tull | what filesystems would you recommend for desktop use? i was planing to use ext3 for / and xfs for /home since i intend to have movies and mp3! |
| 18:53.43 | FarrisG | Are there any tools for monitoring (in semi-real time) disk usage? I've got about 60 machines that all mount to the same /home, and about 50 users... Occasionally, someone or somescript will start eating up disk space, and the only way to tell where or by whom is to start doing a bunch of du commands and watching iptraf |
| 18:53.50 | FarrisG | Is there any tool to handle this sort of thing? |
| 18:53.56 | delox99 | when i ping ns1.mydomain.com it gives me a different ip |
| 18:54.08 | Frem | Does anyone know of any e17 packages for Sarge? Or should I just risk it and upgrade to Sid? |
| 18:54.09 | jelly | jason__: use "egrep -i '^[[:space:]]*include' /etc/apache2/httpd.conf" . Does it also have include .../httpd.conf in it? |
| 18:54.09 | delox99 | i don t get it |
| 18:54.16 | stew | jason__: ok, so you are using something far different from the debian httpd.conf in any case |
| 18:54.16 | cisee | FarrisG: any system monitoring toolset has potential for that, nagios for example |
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| 18:54.27 | cisee | Frem: i like the soulmachine.net repository |
| 18:54.28 | jason__ | stew, YES IT DOES... |
| 18:54.42 | stew | jason__: yeah, becuase you erroneously copied apache2.conf to httpd.conf |
| 18:54.42 | cisee | delox99: use dig it provides more info than nslookup |
| 18:54.55 | stew | (as i told you yesterday) |
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| 18:55.20 | delox99 | the thing is when i do dig nslookup or ping on the bind server, the same ip comes up |
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| 18:55.27 | jelly | jason__: you shot yourself in the leg. Rename or delete httpd.conf, and use apache2.conf instead. |
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| 18:55.43 | delox99 | but on different machine on the net the ip is not the same |
| 18:55.44 | jason__ | jelly, okay |
| 18:56.13 | delox99 | just like if the dns caches were not updated but it s been days since i ve made the changes |
| 18:56.16 | klync | delox99: i'm guessing that the machine you're running nslookup on doesn't use this nameserver... what is the authoritative dns for that domain in the whois? |
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| 18:56.45 | cisee | delox99: if you don't increase the serial # in your zone file, it won't propagate changes in zone transfer |
| 18:56.51 | klync | that too |
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| 18:57.27 | delox99 | the domain is alluet.com |
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| 18:57.36 | delox99 | try for yourself |
| 18:57.47 | delox99 | nslookup ns1.alluet.com |
| 18:57.53 | delox99 | then ping ns1.alluet.com |
| 18:58.09 | jason__ | jelly stew, it work :) :) i am such a retard |
| 18:58.09 | cisee | same to me holmes |
| 18:58.22 | klync | delox99: i get the same ip (206.248.149.60) for ping and "host" |
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| 18:58.42 | klync | delox99: host -t mx alluet.com |
| 18:58.42 | klync | alluet.com mail is handled by 10 al-1.alluet.com. |
| 18:58.43 | delox99 | ok well here a get a different one |
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| 18:58.50 | klync | err |
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| 18:58.53 | klync | wait a minute |
| 18:59.01 | jason__ | stew and jelly, how the heck are you so smart?? you must live on the computer |
| 18:59.06 | stew | yes |
| 18:59.07 | klync | ok, the ns is correct |
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| 18:59.17 | jelly | jason__: I'm actually a shell script. |
| 18:59.18 | delox99 | it s an old ip i was using before but i updated every sources where that old ip could come from |
| 18:59.26 | delox99 | but yeah maybe the serial |
| 18:59.38 | stew | delox99: the serial its serving is 2006010601 |
| 18:59.42 | klync | delox99: ns2 gives me .60 as well |
| 18:59.47 | abrotman | stew: does the wife live on the printer? |
| 19:00.01 | stew | abrotman: no, she lives with her laptops, we don't use printers |
| 19:00.03 | delox99 | but the serial isnt just used when zones get replicated between master and slave? |
| 19:00.05 | jason__ | now i can go actually go to my apache2.conf and remove the commnents from the addhandlers |
| 19:00.07 | abrotman | stew: good plan |
| 19:00.21 | cisee | jason__: backup your config modifications and reinstall |
| 19:00.25 | delox99 | or is it used for forwarders and cache servers? |
| 19:00.37 | cisee | delox99: both |
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| 19:00.44 | jason__ | cisee, you mean reinstall apache2? |
| 19:00.51 | cisee | jason__: yes |
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| 19:01.58 | jason__ | cisee, do i have to also remove all my php packages i installed too? |
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| 19:02.29 | asperon | has anybody installed sync4j in debian, or any other syncml server? |
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| 19:02.57 | cisee | jason__: hrm perhaps just dpkg-reconfigure apache2 with the option that replaces all the config files |
| 19:03.04 | Fox_1_ | does anyone install moodin in debian? |
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| 19:03.43 | jason__ | cisee, okay i will...but why is there more than one config file for apache2? |
| 19:03.43 | delox99 | ok i changed the serial and did rndc reload |
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| 19:04.11 | stew | apache2 doesn't have any configfiles, apache2-common has many |
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| 19:04.19 | cisee | jason__: httpd.conf is for legacy reasons, apache2.conf is the base settings and then sites-enables/* is for different 'sites' you may have ie your configuration |
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| 19:04.29 | stew | jason__: if the problem is just a missiong httpd.conf i wouldnt' worry about it |
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| 19:04.36 | Daveman | lollercrack |
| 19:04.38 | ChickenBrain | hello, does anyone know a good graphical frontend to edit id3v2 tags on music files in debian? |
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| 19:05.09 | Daveman | ChickenBrain, heh |
| 19:05.10 | jason__ | where is my htdocs? |
| 19:05.11 | Daveman | whee |
| 19:05.14 | thingfish | ChickenBrain: easytag |
| 19:05.14 | pipeline | ChickenBrain: easytag |
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| 19:05.28 | Daveman | abrotman, you around man? |
| 19:05.33 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:05.42 | Daveman | :) |
| 19:05.57 | abrotman | is that all? |
| 19:05.58 | stew | jason__: look at DocumentRoot in /etc/apache2/sites-available/$sitename |
| 19:06.15 | ChickenBrain | thx thingfish pipeline |
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| 19:07.33 | DevilChaos | hi trying to use an isa network card but need drivers and debian package anyone any ideas? |
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| 19:08.00 | pipeline | DevilChaos: the name of the package you will need is isapnp |
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| 19:08.03 | delox99 | like if you go here http://centralops.net/co/ |
| 19:08.12 | pipeline | DevilChaos: unless it's a 3com, in which case you can get by without isapnp if you know what kind of card it is. Do you? |
| 19:08.18 | jason__ | why the heck is DocumentRoot all the way in sites-available? why isnt it the apache.conf file? |
| 19:08.26 | DevilChaos | 3com |
| 19:08.29 | alekandr | jason__: hey :) |
| 19:08.29 | delox99 | and do an nslookup on ns1.alluet.com using dns 206.248.149.60 |
| 19:08.36 | delox99 | then do a ping to ns1.alluet.com |
| 19:08.49 | delox99 | the ips are different |
| 19:09.15 | Kithe | hi, anyone know a good guide for setting up a secure mail server on a debian box? |
| 19:09.17 | DevilChaos | pipeline : i have a 3com and a ne to try |
| 19:09.36 | grumbel | following problem: I copied my root filesystem from hdb1 to hdd1, changed (hd1,0) to (hd2,0) in grubs menu.lst, changed root=/dev/hdb1 to root=/dev/hdd1 and changed fstab on hdd1, throuble grub is *still* booting hdb1, even so everything I can think of points to hdd1 |
| 19:09.40 | pipeline | DevilChaos: You should be able to just plug in the 3com and load the driver, no PNP bullshit necessary. |
| 19:10.03 | DevilChaos | is the driver just the name 3com |
| 19:10.04 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 19:10.04 | stew | !cmd dnsreport (.*?): is ($1): http://dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=$1 |
| 19:10.04 | dpkg | okay, stew |
| 19:10.12 | jason__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:10.20 | stew | !dnsrpeport alluet.com |
| 19:10.21 | DevilChaos | silly question |
| 19:10.28 | pipeline | DevilChaos: No. Google will probably be of some assistance. |
| 19:10.31 | stew | !dnsreport alluet.com |
| 19:10.36 | pipeline | DevilChaos: http://www.itservices.ubc.ca/resnet/Technical_Support/Nics/debian.html |
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| 19:10.37 | DevilChaos | ah ok |
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| 19:11.28 | pipeline | DevilChaos: You can ignore the crap at the bottom. The reason I linked you to that page was the table in the middle that lists driver names. |
| 19:11.37 | pipeline | DevilChaos: Test loading a driver with "modprobe <driver name>" |
| 19:11.47 | pipeline | DevilChaos: To make sure the driver is loaded at startup, add its name to /etc/modules |
| 19:11.50 | stew | delox99: http://dnsreport.com/tools/dnsreport.ch?domain=alluet.com <- you need to fix that glue problem |
| 19:12.12 | DevilChaos | ty pipeline |
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| 19:15.38 | pusling | is there a command to see what files a not-installed package contains ?= |
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| 19:16.04 | Gathond | pusling: apt-file might be able to tell |
| 19:16.07 | stew | pusling: apt-file list packagename |
| 19:16.11 | stew | pusling: /msg dpkg apt-file |
| 19:16.23 | smacnay | I am trying to mount a Muvo mp3 player but am having no luck with the filetype. The player is found when doing a 'lsusb'. dmesg shows it as /dev/sda. "mount -t vfat /dev/sda /mnt/muvo" gives me an error with incorrect filetype. |
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| 19:17.01 | stew | smacnay: does it show any partitions in "fdisk -l /dev/sda"? |
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| 19:17.08 | pusling | stew: thank you. (I know apt-file, but didn't know the list option ;) |
| 19:17.22 | smacnay | stew: let me check |
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| 19:17.55 | smacnay | stew: ah, that would explain something - /dev/sda1 is listed |
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| 19:18.12 | smacnay | stew: got it |
| 19:18.20 | smacnay | stew: thanks almighty guru |
| 19:18.30 | stew | you're welcome |
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| 19:19.00 | Overand | how can I found out my current terminal rez/size? |
| 19:19.10 | Overand | (I'm inside screen if that matters) |
| 19:19.22 | stew | Overand: in x? |
| 19:19.23 | newjunk | all my fonts on webpages and on here are tiny whats going on? |
| 19:19.28 | Overand | stew: nah, I'm SSHed in. |
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| 19:19.51 | stew | Overand: type "resize" |
| 19:19.51 | Overand | basically I've got an ACD 30" display on native rez on a windows PC running putty with a 5 point font, and I want to see how absurd it is |
| 19:19.55 | Overand | heh |
| 19:19.57 | Overand | k |
| 19:20.01 | Overand | thanks |
| 19:20.24 | Overand | 424x194, ahahaha |
| 19:21.01 | Overand | if i had fullscreened it, that'd be higher rez than straight VGA |
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| 19:21.44 | Overand | Cant wait to set this machine up with a dual boot... just got to get that SATA drive working. |
| 19:21.47 | Overand | well, thanks stew |
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| 19:23.38 | jieter | I'm trying to install debian sarge from my ubuntu install. Everyting goes well, until I try to install my kernel-image. initrd complains about "/dev/sda1 is not a block device". I found a hint somewhere to change ROOT=probe in /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf in my / partition. The problem is: there is no device in /dev for my root partition... How should I fix this? |
| 19:24.46 | stew | jieter: what partition is root currently? in ubuntu? |
| 19:25.04 | jieter | stew: /dev/sda1 |
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| 19:25.24 | stew | how can there not be such a dev entry? |
| 19:25.25 | jieter | stew: an 2.5" hardisk in an external usb case |
| 19:25.30 | stew | oh, you mean in the chroot there is no /dev? |
| 19:25.50 | jieter | stew: yea, there is a /dev, but no hardisk devs in it |
| 19:26.00 | stew | jieter: "mount -bind /dev /debianroot/dev" from outside the chroot |
| 19:26.09 | stew | jieter: and do the same with /proc |
| 19:26.27 | stew | jieter: that will let the chroot see the running system's /dev |
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| 19:26.53 | cVsup | somebody knows mockup? |
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| 19:29.54 | Waggie | Hi folks.. Ok.. I'm running Debian Etch i386, I updated amavis yesterday, I configured everything from scratch (ie: no old config file), and STILL my anti-virus and spam code isn't loading. |
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| 19:30.17 | jieter | stew: this does not give me any more devs in de chroot. just the same as before the mount. Should I do the mount before entering the chroot? |
| 19:30.24 | jason__ | stew, for a fresh install of apache2, after installing the php packages, do i have to remove the comment signs from the php addhandler text on the apache2.conf file? |
| 19:30.34 | fken | hi there |
| 19:30.54 | fken | i have a hardware issue i think and i need your advice |
| 19:31.06 | ke6isf | fken: What version of Debian are you running? |
| 19:31.20 | fken | testing / unstable |
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| 19:31.27 | fken | its not really the problem |
| 19:31.35 | ke6isf | fken: Which one? Testing or unstable? Or are you mixing distros? |
| 19:31.39 | fken | sometime my system crash |
| 19:31.47 | fken | (mixing distrib) |
| 19:32.08 | fken | i think its a hard drive issue |
| 19:32.13 | fken | but i am not sure |
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| 19:32.20 | Knorrie | jieter: does `mount` show /target/dev mounted? if yes, they should really be the same... |
| 19:32.25 | fken | i dunno how to verify |
| 19:32.34 | stew | jieter: it must give you the same /dev as outside the chroot, you need to do it from outside the chroot |
| 19:32.44 | stew | jason__: i'm not sure, i've never run apache2 |
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| 19:33.05 | fken | in fact i realized it happened when i mount a usb hardware |
| 19:33.06 | jason__ | stew, did you have to do it in apache1.3? |
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| 19:33.25 | fken | and it happened on debian AND on Windows xp |
| 19:33.29 | jieter | Knorrie: stew: got it now :) thanks indeed |
| 19:33.32 | dvm1981 | I would like to test (in a virtual pc) to migrate from Stable to Unstable. But there are a problem i think, someone could talk about to me |
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| 19:34.05 | stew | jason__: yes |
| 19:34.25 | stew | dvm1981: why would you want to use unstable? |
| 19:34.31 | oohlaf | Weird, I modified the mount flags of my /usr partition in /etc/fstab, but I can't seem to remount it |
| 19:34.34 | oohlaf | # mount -n -o remount /usr |
| 19:34.37 | oohlaf | mount: /usr not mounted already, or bad option |
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| 19:34.54 | dvm1981 | stew : Yes i will begin to experiment with it :-) |
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| 19:35.30 | fken | btw is there a way to modify the mbr of a disk without reinstalling debian ? |
| 19:35.39 | usn | hi folx |
| 19:35.39 | stew | fken: /msg dpkg fixmbr |
| 19:35.43 | dvm1981 | stew : so i test it before several times in VMWare |
| 19:36.31 | oohlaf | duh, never mind, I removed nodev, but forgot to add defaults, so one column was missing in fstab |
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| 19:37.11 | Bramz | Hello, I'm running debian Etch on an AMD64. When I ask synaptic to mark all upgrades, it's saying it wants to remove kdevelop3 and synaptic without any replacement. It saying a lots of other things too, but those two worry me. Is there any reason why it would want to remove kdevelop3 and synaptic? |
| 19:37.27 | stew | Bramz: becuase kdevelop3 isn't in testing |
| 19:37.59 | stew | Bramz: lots of kde stuff is missing in testing from the transition to 3.4 that hasn't gotten back in yet, but kdedevelop has been missing for a while now |
| 19:38.13 | fken | thanks stew |
| 19:38.51 | dvm1981 | stew : I would like to test it, experiment with it, learn it, view it... |
| 19:38.56 | dli_ | stew: so, using etch for desktop is not as stable as for servers |
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| 19:39.16 | Bramz | stew: ah, ok ... that explains somehow (though i don't think i fully understand, i'm still a big newbee =) ... Well basically, i want to keep kdevelop3 and synaptic in. Any suggestions about what I should do? |
| 19:39.38 | dvm1981 | stew : I hope i have enought knowlegd, but in case if, i test it in a virtual computer so the risk are minimal i think. |
| 19:40.12 | dli_ | Bramz: it sucks, but no easy way to downgrade to stable |
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| 19:40.47 | Bramz | stew: how do you know such things anyway? i tried to google, but i didn't find anything ... where do you look for such things? |
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| 19:42.58 | Waggie | Hi folks.. Ok.. I'm running Debian Etch i386, I updated amavis yesterday, I configured everything from scratch (ie: no old config file), and STILL my anti-virus and spam code isn't loading. |
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| 19:43.18 | Waggie | I'm not doing anything particularly complicated.. |
| 19:43.36 | abrotman | did you check the bts? |
| 19:43.39 | Waggie | I'm running Postfix, Amavis (w/ ClamAV/SpamAssassin), and Courier-IMAP. |
| 19:43.50 | stew | Bramz: i know such things from spending time here, try "apt-cache policy packagename", and /msg dpkg bts |
| 19:43.57 | Waggie | bug tracker system? |
| 19:44.25 | Tortel | ja |
| 19:44.32 | dli_ | Waggie: it sucks again, people have to run antivirus on linux :( |
| 19:44.53 | Ronin | dli_: not exactly true |
| 19:45.08 | Tortel | ive had 0 viruses |
| 19:45.10 | dli_ | Ronin: elaborate? |
| 19:45.18 | Tortel | but im ready |
| 19:45.30 | Ronin | you dont have to run one on linux, my desktop for example doesnt |
| 19:46.01 | pureone | i run clamscan on my entire hard drive once a week |
| 19:46.03 | Tortel | I do at least once a month |
| 19:46.07 | dli_ | Ronin: I just said people, not everyone |
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| 19:46.57 | Waggie | There's nothing useful in the bts for amavisd-new. |
| 19:47.06 | Waggie | At least, not that I can see. |
| 19:47.38 | stouset | Does ClamAV have an on-access protection mode, or does it only work via manual/cron'd scans? |
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| 19:48.29 | Tortel | there is a daemon for clamav |
| 19:48.37 | Tortel | not too sure what it does tho... |
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| 19:50.03 | Gnea | this is so stupid, the sound on this laptop just isn't working anymore |
| 19:50.19 | Gnea | and i plugged headphones in and i can hear them 'click' as i plug them into the port |
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| 19:51.09 | Knorrie | can samba be backported from etch to sarge? or will that cause problems now or in the future? |
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| 19:51.34 | Gnea | Knorrie: is there a backport available? |
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| 19:51.49 | Knorrie | Gnea: i just build it :) |
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| 19:52.03 | abrotman | !simple sid backport |
| 19:52.04 | dpkg | simple sid backport is probably 1) Add a deb-src line for sid to your sources.list. 2) apt-get update 3) apt-get build-dep packagename;apt-get -b source packagename 4) install the resulting debs, or pay someone to do it properly :), or ask me about <backports> |
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| 19:52.33 | Gnea | Knorrie: well if you know how to build it then you don't need to be asking such questions :) |
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| 19:52.35 | Anthro | Is there a way to merge a mounted filesystem with what already exists at a mountpoint? |
| 19:52.53 | Anthro | I looked at the mount man page and didn't find anything. |
| 19:53.12 | dli_ | Anthro: read about "nohide" in the manual |
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| 19:53.33 | Knorrie | Gnea: abrotman: yeah, i know how to do it, i used pbuilder, but i wonder if someone knows or can predict better than me whether this give give problems later on |
| 19:53.36 | Anthro | dli_: I don't see any nohide in the mount man page. Where else should I look? |
| 19:53.52 | dli_ | Anthro: I suppose you are asking for nfs, otherwise, I don't figure out your question |
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| 19:53.54 | Knorrie | i mean... when i start this, i have to do it until etch is released |
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| 19:54.06 | Gnea | Knorrie: if you didn't get it from a supported repository, then you're on your own. |
| 19:54.34 | Jacobo221 | anjuta doesn't seem to launch here on Etch. anyone with the same problem? |
| 19:55.32 | Anthro | dli_: Not NFS, no. I have a RAID + cryptoloop + LVM and I want to put /usr/local on it, but I want /usr/local/sbin to contain the script that I use to configure and mount it. |
| 19:55.57 | Knorrie | Gnea: ok, so when the newer samba can't be build on sarge anymore, i'm stuck, or probably will come into a backport-dependency-hell |
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| 19:56.23 | dli_ | Anthro: first mount /usr/local, then, /usr/local/sbin |
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| 19:57.36 | Anthro | dli_: Can't do that. /usr/local will be mounted from the filesystem that needs the /usr/local/sbin to for it to be available. |
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| 19:58.21 | Anthro | s/needs the/needs the script in/ |
| 19:58.47 | dli_ | Anthro: if /usr/local/sbin is not a mount point, move it away, mount /usr/local, and make a ln -s for /usr/local/sbin, of different filesystems, ln -s is the way |
| 19:59.13 | Knorrie | Gnea: it's because of this one: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=309836, perhaps it's possible to just get the patch for "Mac OS Tiger Problem fixed. Closes: #309836" and patch 3.0.14 |
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| 20:01.45 | ryan` | /usr/sbin/logrotate |
| 20:01.48 | ryan` | eep |
| 20:02.15 | dvm1981 | Is there somethings that i must be read before upgrade from Stable to Unstable. I are looking on the website of Debian, but find not anything particular. |
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| 20:02.26 | abrotman | !iyhtays |
| 20:02.26 | dpkg | If you have to ask, you shouldn't. |
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| 20:02.59 | stouset | abrotman: Probably should clarify who that's targetted to. |
| 20:03.02 | ryan` | where can I download package sources? I want to build a modified version of a pacakge, and my previous source was packages.debian.org. |
| 20:03.19 | stouset | ryan`: apt-get source |
| 20:03.21 | abrotman | stouset: i think it's fairly obvious |
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| 20:03.50 | stouset | Potentially, to every except the person who should be receiving the advice :) |
| 20:03.52 | makdisse | i have 2 network cards on my machine, one goes to the internet and the other to my local network, which program should i use to make the clients of my local network be able to access the internet? |
| 20:04.08 | makdisse | ipmasq? |
| 20:04.12 | ryan` | stouset: do i need deb-src lines in sources.list for that to work? |
| 20:04.20 | stouset | ryan`: Aye. |
| 20:04.30 | Anthro | dli_: I don't think I've explained this well. When the system boots, I need /usr/local to contain sbin, which contains this script. The script then configures the RAID, cryptoloop, and LVM and mounts filesystems. One of the filesystems it should mount is /usr/local. |
| 20:04.44 | abrotman | !tell ryan` about source |
| 20:04.58 | stouset | Anthro: When you mount something, it mounts on top of what's already there. |
| 20:05.00 | mescon | anyone know what kernel module to use for the Intel D945PSN mainboard? All I can think of is the Marvell Yukon driver or e100... tried tulip and some others as well |
| 20:05.03 | mescon | but i still wont find it |
| 20:05.03 | Anthro | dli_: Anyhow, I have to run. I'll see if I can get around it with reasonable symlinks. |
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| 20:05.10 | abrotman | Anthro: chicken .. egg |
| 20:05.11 | Anthro | stouset: Yes, that's the problem. I want a merge. |
| 20:05.13 | ryan` | abrotman, thanks |
| 20:05.19 | Anthro | abrotman: Exactly. |
| 20:05.19 | stouset | Anthro: So if you *need* it to be in /usr/local/, then unmount /usr/local, put the script there, then when it runs it will mount on top of itself. |
| 20:05.43 | jieter | I'm trying to use grub-install on a hardisk in an external usb case. 'grub-install /dev/sda' returns "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." How can I install grub in the mbr of the hd? |
| 20:05.54 | ryan` | Anthro: You might try an initrd |
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| 20:06.04 | ryan` | bah |
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| 20:06.30 | newjunk | how would i make a copy of this /etc/apache2/sites-available/default ? |
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| 20:07.03 | Shadowcat | newjunk: man cp |
| 20:07.04 | mindlace | sudo cp /etc/apache2/sites-available/default <newlocation> |
| 20:07.34 | abrotman | too obvious! |
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| 20:07.51 | MrMazda | is there some optional repository I can add that has Opera in it? |
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| 20:08.09 | Shadowcat | abrotman: hey it's better than telling people where the "any key" is |
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| 20:11.08 | jeremiah | Why is Xfree86 refusing to use my changed resolution settings? |
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| 20:11.29 | jeremiah | I ran dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:11.56 | xam_ | jeremiah: are you using xorg ? |
| 20:11.56 | jeremiah | It detected many of my settings but refuses to display resolution settings higher than 800x600 |
| 20:11.59 | MrMazda | search for all instances of '-dpi' in the /etc tree and remove it |
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| 20:12.01 | jeremiah | no Xfre86 |
| 20:12.24 | jeremiah | MrMazda: Really? ok . . . |
| 20:12.27 | clydem | how much video memory? |
| 20:12.36 | MrMazda | it's what I do jeremiah |
| 20:12.36 | dvm1981 | So i have changed the word 'Stable' to 'unstable' in the file '/etc/apt/source.list' and have do an 'apt-get update', now i need to do 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. Then waiting that all goes good ? |
| 20:12.40 | jeremiah | not sure, how do I find out? |
| 20:12.48 | stouset | dvm1981: Yeah. |
| 20:12.53 | jeremiah | MrMazda: Thanks, I'll try that. |
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| 20:13.01 | MrMazda | jeremiah: but also I add DisplaySize to section Monitor in that config file |
| 20:13.02 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: listen, we don't support debian unstable in here |
| 20:13.12 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: if you want to run unstable, you are ON YOUR OWN |
| 20:13.28 | jeremiah | MrMazda: Ah, I added it to screen but not DisplaySize |
| 20:13.33 | Shadowcat | and things WILL break in unstable |
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| 20:13.39 | Shadowcat | !tell dvm1981 about unstable |
| 20:13.55 | dvm1981 | Shadowcat: Unstable are for the developpers of Debian not ? |
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| 20:13.57 | xam_ | dvm1981: especially upgrading from stable to sid is kinda stupid ... |
| 20:13.58 | whitefunk | hello all, do you know if there is a deb from the apt source that is for mod_perl 2.0+ not 1.99 |
| 20:13.59 | MrMazda | jeremiah: if you're using Gnome, what I said helps very littel |
| 20:14.02 | MrMazda | jeremiah: if you're using Gnome, what I said helps very little |
| 20:14.03 | Ronin | i suspect thats falling on deaf ears |
| 20:14.10 | dvm1981 | xam: Why ? |
| 20:14.12 | abrotman | !sid upgrade |
| 20:14.12 | dpkg | Repeat after me: Sid is NOT AN UPGRADE! Sid is meant for developers and testers, so stay away from it if you're neither. Use stable or testing instead. |
| 20:14.21 | jeremiah | MrMazda: Yes I am using GNOME. |
| 20:14.23 | jeremiah | darn. |
| 20:14.34 | MrMazda | jeremiah: then try gnome-control-center |
| 20:14.37 | Shadowcat | !sidsmite dvm1981 |
| 20:14.39 | Iwsimn | hi all |
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| 20:14.47 | jeremiah | MrMazda: Will do. |
| 20:14.48 | abrotman | jeremiah: did you try the little resolution app ? |
| 20:15.15 | dvm1981 | Shadowcat: So it |
| 20:15.20 | xam_ | dvm1981: I'd would first upgrade to testing if I were you. Apart from the fact that I wouldn't run unstable anyway |
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| 20:15.34 | dvm1981 | Shadowcat: So it better that i continue with test 'testing' and not upgrade to ? |
| 20:15.44 | xam_ | s/'d// |
| 20:15.50 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: get it through your thick head, sid is NOT an upgrade |
| 20:15.51 | Iwsimn | i got a litle problem with my network config, i have an static ip in "interfaces" now i will change it to dhcp but i dont know the syntax for that |
| 20:15.54 | clydem | jeremiah: had a machine with old video card... it wouldn't run above 800x600 until I set the depth to 256 color... never found a workaround, but didn't try too hard |
| 20:15.56 | Iwsimn | can anyone gime a tip ? |
| 20:15.57 | jeremiah | Hey abrotman (I am gnube by the way, fresh re-install of Sarge and all my settings are gone. |
| 20:15.58 | dvm1981 | xam: It |
| 20:16.20 | abrotman | dvm1981: don't take this the wrong way .. but you've been asking fairly elementary Debian questions over the last week or so .. you really should avoid unstable .. it can break very very badly |
| 20:16.21 | jeremiah | abrotman: Yeah, I tried the resolution app |
| 20:16.22 | dvm1981 | xam: It because its a new installation so that i begin from Stable to Unstable |
| 20:16.49 | abrotman | jeremiah: what resolutions did you pick from the xserver-xfree86 thingie? |
| 20:16.51 | abrotman | !drxx jeremiah |
| 20:16.51 | dpkg | jeremiah: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 20:16.56 | jeremiah | clydem: My machine isn;t that old |
| 20:16.59 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Thats right there are some things that i not know in Debian |
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| 20:17.20 | Shadowcat | dvm1981: do yourself a favor, run stable or testing |
| 20:17.20 | jeremiah | abrotman: Yeah I did all that |
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| 20:17.26 | Shadowcat | if you run sid, don't ask for help in here |
| 20:17.31 | Iwsimn | i got a litle problem with my network config, i have an static ip in "interfaces" now i will change it to dhcp but i dont know the syntax for that |
| 20:17.47 | dvm1981 | abrotman: I take it not by the bad way, |
| 20:17.58 | clydem | Iwsimn: # The primary network interface |
| 20:17.58 | clydem | auto eth0 |
| 20:17.58 | clydem | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 20:18.17 | dvm1981 | Shad0wcat: Ok |
| 20:18.29 | jeremiah | I set Xfree86 to display 1024x800 with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 20:18.41 | secureboot | how do i reduce the klogd level so that i don't see a lot of stuff on the console |
| 20:18.49 | clydem | jeremiah: you looked at XF86Config? |
| 20:18.54 | jeremiah | I wonder if I should switch to xorg instead, would that be easier? |
| 20:18.57 | secureboot | or better yet, how do i disable seeing klogd stuff on the consoles? |
| 20:19.01 | jeremiah | clydem: yeah, hacked that for a bit |
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| 20:19.20 | clydem | jeremiah: what about XF86Config-4 |
| 20:19.41 | jeremiah | clydem: wait a second, which one did I hack? |
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| 20:19.46 | clydem | hehe |
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| 20:19.59 | jeremiah | clydem: Xfree86Config-4 |
| 20:20.06 | jeremiah | ah hah |
| 20:20.08 | abrotman | dvm1981: so the idea is .. you learn more about debian .. without having to face catastophically broken packages |
| 20:20.10 | marty | does anyone know anything about the game freecraft? |
| 20:20.15 | Iwsimn | ok i changed it, when i try "/etc/network/interfaces down" i get an error "premission denied" why this ? |
| 20:20.29 | Ronin | Iwsimn: try as root |
| 20:20.31 | abrotman | marty: it's a game! |
| 20:20.35 | dvm1981 | Shad0wcat: I have debian Stable on my 5 computers here at home, from M$ to 100% Debian GNU/Linux sinds when Sarge are out, Woody i have used 3/4 year on one pc before that i had FC, ... |
| 20:20.37 | marty | yeah i know |
| 20:20.43 | marty | and i skrewed it up |
| 20:20.45 | abrotman | that's what i know about freecraft :) |
| 20:20.48 | marty | and i want to fix it |
| 20:20.51 | Iwsimn | iam root ... |
| 20:20.52 | abrotman | reinstall it ? |
| 20:20.57 | Ronin | Iwsimn: had to ask |
| 20:20.59 | marty | hasn't been working |
| 20:21.16 | abrotman | apt-get --reinstall install freecraft ? |
| 20:21.25 | marty | i asked it to display a more advanced video mode than my computer is capable of displaying |
| 20:21.26 | Iwsimn | what you mean with "had to ask" ? |
| 20:21.32 | clydem | Iwsimn: not too sure what is next... mebbe dhclient? |
| 20:21.36 | marty | and i reinstalled it a few times |
| 20:21.38 | xam_ | iwsimn: it is '/etc/init.d/networking restart' or 'ifdown <device>' |
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| 20:21.45 | marty | and it still is going back to that error |
| 20:21.48 | Ronin | Iwsimn: i had to ask if you did it as root, ive seen too many times folks try commands like that not as root etc. |
| 20:21.48 | dvm1981 | Shad0wcat: I will really not see that im a king in computing, i always considere my as a newbie, and i work in IT now all of 7 years;-) |
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| 20:21.54 | abrotman | marty: oh . look in like ~/.freecraft .. see if you can find a resolution setting |
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| 20:22.12 | marty | aha |
| 20:22.14 | marty | thankyou |
| 20:22.20 | _oP | hello all! iam am _oP |
| 20:22.25 | Iwsimn | couldnt read "interfaces" mom |
| 20:22.25 | jieter | I'm trying to use grub-install on a hardisk in an external usb case. 'grub-install /dev/sda' returns "Could not find device for /boot: Not found or not a block device." How can I install grub in the mbr of the hd? (15 minutes ago) |
| 20:22.26 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Thankx for the thing you really mind , some trouble to explain me ... |
| 20:22.43 | marty | ? |
| 20:23.00 | dvm1981 | abrotman: But i really understand you and thank you that you have me warn about |
| 20:23.05 | abrotman | dvm1981: don't think we're being elitist bastards .. but unstable can really really break badly |
| 20:23.17 | Shadowcat | can? |
| 20:23.24 | abrotman | now Shadowcat .. he's an elitist bastard .. but i think he's proud of that :) |
| 20:23.25 | Shadowcat | they still haven't fixed the bloody kernel |
| 20:23.32 | Shadowcat | and it's been several months |
| 20:23.34 | abrotman | Shadowcat: i thought yaird was fixed |
| 20:23.52 | Shadowcat | abrotman: yaird was fixed, but they never recompiled the kernel |
| 20:24.01 | Shadowcat | so the kernel image itself is still broken |
| 20:24.10 | dvm1981 | abrotman: So i concentrate me then 80% for the testing version, and the rest for the stable version, servers |
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| 20:24.41 | sifi-x | can I undo rm? |
| 20:24.48 | Shadowcat | sifi-x: no |
| 20:24.49 | jeremiah | ach, must reboot, thanks for the help. |
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| 20:25.01 | nemy | hi, I have xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 installed and my ^ key is non longer a dead key so, I can't type accented letters. Is it a reported bug or should I file one or is there a workaround ? |
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| 20:25.31 | abrotman | Shadowcat: oh .. gotcha |
| 20:25.35 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Im verry verry happy with the Stable version, i not need testing or unstable to have more rings and bells that are 'a la mode'. Just i love this beatifull project and try to help in some manner |
| 20:25.55 | Justin | dvm1981: you mean "bells and whistles" |
| 20:26.08 | abrotman | dvm1981: there are other ways to help .. submit patches .. help with translations etc |
| 20:26.09 | dvm1981 | Justin: Bingo :-) |
| 20:26.30 | abrotman | rings and bells .. sounds so . wedding :) |
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| 20:27.13 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Yes, i want to learn it, i hope that there are a day that i could begin with it, but i patient :-) |
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| 20:28.16 | dvm1981 | abrotman: One of my raison to swith to Unstable is to try to aproche me a little bit by the develloppers and take contact and .... |
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| 20:30.07 | dvm1981 | abrotman : One of my next questions, how to begin with 'Bugrepport' ?? |
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| 20:31.30 | dino4k | dvm1981: simple, if you discover a bug in a package - you use the program "reportbug" to report the bug |
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| 20:32.37 | dli_ | where is system wide $DISTCC_DIR/hosts in debian? |
| 20:32.39 | dvm1981 | My next questions here would by concernate 'Testing' version and subjecting 'report a bug'. |
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| 20:32.45 | andresdj | cul es el canal en espaol |
| 20:33.28 | xam_ | !es |
| 20:33.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 20:33.33 | abrotman | dvm1981: you mean .. reportbug ? |
| 20:33.57 | Iwsimn | Ronin: i wrote in "/etc/networking/interface auto eth0 |
| 20:34.03 | Iwsimn | iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 20:34.09 | dvm1981 | Someon suggestion with apps to learn English ? Sorry for the stupid question but i have found some time ago a good translator that can translate english words to French (Dutch are desesperated by i'm not) |
| 20:34.31 | creature | Hello. Please excuse the vagueish question. Recently when trying to do an "apt-get update" or apt-get dist-upgrade" on my sarge system, I've started being told that a lot of my packages are unsigned. I've got the latest debian-keyrings package, so why is my apt-get complaining? |
| 20:34.33 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Yes, i looking for and document me a little bit more about |
| 20:34.49 | Iwsimn | im connected with my router but i everytime get 192.168.1.1 |
| 20:34.55 | abrotman | dvm1981: man reportbug |
| 20:35.04 | abrotman | creature: you're not running sarge then |
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| 20:35.11 | abrotman | !tell creature about 2006 key |
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| 20:35.40 | jason__ | in apache2, is there something in the apache2.conf file that makes always show the index when you type in localhost? |
| 20:35.44 | _oP | hello |
| 20:35.55 | abrotman | DirectoryIndex |
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| 20:37.00 | _oP | ,y fingers smell like fish ??? hmm ? |
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| 20:38.02 | dvm1981 | Is there some else where i could view a list of open bugs ? |
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| 20:38.17 | abrotman | !bts |
| 20:38.17 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
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| 20:38.21 | dvm1981 | I have found 'querybts' somethings else |
| 20:38.32 | dvm1981 | abrotman: thk |
| 20:38.55 | _oP | love the taste of fish i can tell u brothers! |
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| 20:39.27 | gnube | the odd thing is that the screen resolution on this monitor was fine under the hated Ubunut. |
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| 20:39.38 | gnube | sorry, ubuntu |
| 20:39.44 | klync | glitch: lol "ubunut" ... i like that better |
| 20:39.51 | klync | gnube: |
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| 20:39.56 | gnube | hehe |
| 20:40.10 | sifi-x | Ubernuts |
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| 20:40.13 | repp | hey; how do I show all symbols within a .so file? |
| 20:40.20 | gnube | Why does the X server refuse my instructions under debian? |
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| 20:40.50 | sifi-x | gnube, XFree86 or X.org |
| 20:40.51 | gnube | I cannot change the resolution from 800x600 with dpkg-reconfigure nor by hand editing. |
| 20:40.55 | gnube | XFree86 |
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| 20:41.26 | _oP | @gnube, right placed options under the needed places |
| 20:41.30 | thompa | gnube: is it xorg.conf? |
| 20:41.33 | gnube | I just did a fresh Sarge re-install |
| 20:41.40 | gnube | thompa: No, XFree86 |
| 20:41.47 | klync | gnube: well, i dunno about the config tool, but if you're hand editing, you'll need the modeline under the monitor def, and the list of modes under the display section |
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| 20:41.50 | sifi-x | gnube, odd, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or edit /etc/X11/... |
| 20:41.51 | King_Brad | when i try to umount /dev/hdc1 i get "device is busy" how can i make it unmount or find out what its doing? |
| 20:42.11 | gnube | sifi-x: I did both those things |
| 20:42.14 | thompa | gnube: soory im on sid |
| 20:42.25 | MrMazda | gnube: does your XF86Config file tell X your monitor can't handle anything higher? |
| 20:42.33 | sifi-x | Kilhd, /etc/init.d/fam stop; umount /dev/hdc1 |
| 20:42.33 | thompa | gnube: you can just add the proper lines? |
| 20:42.36 | sancho___ | what's the correct "canned" setting for Exim to be able to send email out of the box (mta only listing on localhost) to the network? If possible we don't want a single smarthost, but DNS MX lookup should work for direct mailing to the destination domain (relaying enabled from lcoalhost) |
| 20:42.45 | klync | King_Brad: you can always try switching to runlevel 1, or use lsof to find the offending files |
| 20:42.49 | sifi-x | King_Brad, , /etc/init.d/fam stop; umount /dev/hdc1 |
| 20:42.52 | gnube | MrMazda: No it doesn't |
| 20:43.07 | esse | Hi, I have a problem with Xsession on Sarge. After I supplied my User/Pass I get a window telling me that my session endured less than 10 minutes. I don't get into my window manager. |
| 20:43.11 | King_Brad | Slacker:/# /etc/init.d/fam stop |
| 20:43.11 | King_Brad | -bash: /etc/init.d/fam: No such file or directory |
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| 20:43.24 | dvm1981 | There are some troubles with the website http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 20:43.26 | King_Brad | lsof is unknown command as well |
| 20:43.30 | MrMazda | gnube: which video driver? |
| 20:43.40 | klync | esse: you might have more detailed error messages under /var/log/ |
| 20:43.44 | gnube | MrMazda: Do you mean from lspci? |
| 20:43.49 | sancho___ | King_Brad: probably need to install lsof. |
| 20:43.54 | King_Brad | installing now |
| 20:43.56 | gnube | An ATI Rage XL I do believe |
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| 20:44.05 | _oP | dohh! |
| 20:44.30 | gnube | 0000:00:08.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL (rev 27) |
| 20:44.43 | King_Brad | okay |
| 20:44.46 | King_Brad | lsof == bad idea |
| 20:44.55 | sancho___ | lsof == bad why? |
| 20:44.59 | King_Brad | iheh |
| 20:45.00 | MrMazda | gnube: maybe that device needs an explicit ramsize entry |
| 20:45.05 | King_Brad | it almost locked my pc up |
| 20:45.07 | esse | under /var/log/messages I find nothing but in .xsession-errors mkdtemp: private socket dir: Permission denied |
| 20:45.12 | King_Brad | showed me every damn thing running |
| 20:45.17 | MrMazda | gnube: VideoRAM |
| 20:45.18 | gnube | I did not explicitly enter ram size |
| 20:45.22 | King_Brad | will lsof /dev/hdc1 do anything? |
| 20:45.32 | klync | esse: permissions on /tmp ? |
| 20:45.42 | sancho___ | King_Brad: so read the man page and have it show you only what you're looking for. |
| 20:45.51 | esse | I'll have a look |
| 20:45.58 | gnube | MrMazda: How do I determine how much RAM I have or need? |
| 20:46.07 | King_Brad | Slacker:/# lsof /dev/hdc1 |
| 20:46.07 | King_Brad | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 20:46.07 | King_Brad | bash 2825 root cwd DIR 22,1 0 637729 /ftp/glftpd/site/xboxgames (deleted) |
| 20:46.16 | MrMazda | gnube: look in /var/log/XF86*.log for EE lines that explain X errors |
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| 20:46.27 | gnube | MrMazda: Yeah, will do. |
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| 20:46.43 | Sunbug | Just downloaded sid, trying to install but the installer complains about missing kernel modules.. Is this normal? Broken? A fix? |
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| 20:47.33 | esse | how can I give you the octal number for /tmp. But as far as I see they look good. So the other users may read |
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| 20:47.39 | [Cadet] | hey |
| 20:47.43 | esse | only root is allowed to write to /tmp |
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| 20:48.05 | pureone | esse it should be 1777 from what i remember |
| 20:48.45 | esse | are you sure? |
| 20:48.57 | gnube | ) PCI:*(0:8:0) ATI Technologies Inc Rage XL rev 39, Mem @ 0xfd000000/24, 0xfe121000/12, I/O @ 0xe800/8 |
| 20:49.00 | pureone | would i bet ?100 on it? no... |
| 20:49.08 | pureone | :) |
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| 20:49.23 | abrotman | esse: no .. anyone can write to /tmp |
| 20:49.25 | King_Brad | okay know i know what is using /dev/hdc1 now, how do i kill it? |
| 20:49.28 | gnube | That looks like the memory address in octal, is the last number (24) the amount of ram |
| 20:49.34 | abrotman | esse: oh .. nm .. ignore me |
| 20:49.48 | klync | esse: whether that first bit is a 1, i'd have to rtfm, but it's 777 and chmod +t |
| 20:49.56 | gnube | King_Brad: Get its process id with ps <app> and the kill the pid |
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| 20:50.14 | King_Brad | Slacker:/# lsof /dev/hdc1 |
| 20:50.14 | King_Brad | COMMAND PID USER FD TYPE DEVICE SIZE NODE NAME |
| 20:50.14 | King_Brad | bash 2825 root cwd DIR 22,1 0 637729 /ftp/glftpd/site/xboxgames (deleted) |
| 20:50.16 | King_Brad | it wont die :( |
| 20:50.25 | King_Brad | i have typed kill 2825 4 times |
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| 20:50.29 | King_Brad | keeps coming back |
| 20:50.30 | abrotman | kill -9 |
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| 20:50.45 | nuskool | I'm having a strange problem with my hardware clock at boot: I constantly get superblock mount time in the future errors due to my clock being set back 3 hours. Running fsck every time fixes it (obviously) but I would really like to know how to avoid the problem in the first place... |
| 20:50.49 | King_Brad | that worked |
| 20:50.50 | King_Brad | sweet |
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| 20:50.56 | abrotman | nuskool: install ntp |
| 20:51.12 | King_Brad | thanks for the help guys! |
| 20:51.15 | newjunk | is there a command that tells you what distro ur running? |
| 20:51.24 | gnube | newjunk: uname -a |
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| 20:51.29 | abrotman | newjunk: there are many |
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| 20:51.38 | abrotman | newjunk: you don't konw what you installed ? |
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| 20:51.53 | gnube | hey must have installed some new junk. |
| 20:52.19 | nuskool | abrotman: the problem happens before my network cards are brought up |
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| 20:52.23 | esse | Yeah! It works again! Thanks! |
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| 20:52.43 | starfishy | uname only tells you what distro is running if a standard kernel is used |
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| 20:52.48 | newjunk | abrotman lol I know, it's just a command i always wanted to know |
| 20:53.11 | abrotman | newjunk: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 .. is a good way to see which version of debian oyu're on |
| 20:53.28 | starfishy | the most reliable way is to go to /etc and find a file xxxxx_version |
| 20:53.36 | SkArFaCe | can someone help me burn an audio cd in Gcombust |
| 20:53.37 | starfishy | with xxxxx being the distro name |
| 20:53.40 | abrotman | starfishy: if only that worked for RH based distros |
| 20:53.40 | starfishy | it contains the distro version |
| 20:53.42 | Iwsimn | hey guys, i try to configure my networkcard to dhcp, i wrote in "/etc/network/interfaces" auto eth0 (break) iface eth0 inet dhcp why i dont get a ip ? i have no local ip no dhcp ip |
| 20:53.45 | tuv | what is the best way/program to setup an alarm? |
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| 20:53.58 | abrotman | starfishy: RH doesn't use a file named in that pattern |
| 20:54.03 | abrotman | or didn't used to anyways |
| 20:54.07 | dvm1981 | Is there a grafical tool for reportbug ? Or are there extra special tools for reportbug, or somethings that can help to browse the current bugs and so ... |
| 20:54.17 | abrotman | starfishy: and that also won't work with some debian derived distros |
| 20:54.17 | starfishy | you are correct, they use XXXX_release |
| 20:54.29 | dondelelcaro | dvm1981: it's called a web browser. Visit bugs.debian.org |
| 20:54.31 | abrotman | since things like knoppix may just say "3.1" in that file |
| 20:54.38 | starfishy | which ones specifically? |
| 20:54.42 | esse | Sorry for asking so much questions. Can someone tell me in short how I can tell Debian not to load the HISAX drivers? They are already inserted into my blacklist for the modules > no effect |
| 20:54.45 | starfishy | kinda curious about that |
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| 20:54.47 | abrotman | starfishy: you'd have to install them all and see :) |
| 20:54.50 | starfishy | hehehe |
| 20:54.55 | Iwsimn | hey guys, i try to configure my networkcard to dhcp, i wrote in "/etc/network/interfaces" auto eth0 (break) iface eth0 inet dhcp why i dont get a ip ? i have no local ip no dhcp ip |
| 20:54.59 | SkArFaCe | can someone help me burn a cd using gcombust |
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| 20:55.05 | starfishy | i think either my business partners or my wife would kill me |
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| 20:55.09 | starfishy | or most likely both |
| 20:55.21 | klync | Iwsimn: did you do /etc/init.d/network reload? |
| 20:55.27 | dvm1981 | For pressisions, are there somethings to manage the bugs or so like CVS ... I ask these because i dont know things about it |
| 20:55.32 | starfishy | Iwsimm: you might want to try |
| 20:55.35 | starfishy | ifup ethX |
| 20:55.36 | tuv | esse: list it in blacklist of both hotplug and discover |
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| 20:55.43 | starfishy | with X being the number of the interface |
| 20:55.47 | Iwsimn | i did restart |
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| 20:56.00 | starfishy | what does ifup say? |
| 20:56.07 | klync | Iwsimn: did you get any error message back? either at the terminal, in /var/log/messages, or in dmesg? |
| 20:56.08 | starfishy | it shows you the actual DHCP messages |
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| 20:56.20 | starfishy | if the interface is up you need to do an 'ifdown ethX' first |
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| 20:56.47 | abrotman | /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 20:57.08 | cees | help!!! I just do dist-upgrade in unstable and now I ca not use gnome Someone help me? |
| 20:57.11 | shuu-2 | Is there any way to change a NTFS harddrive userrights |
| 20:57.19 | starfishy | abrotman: the output of that can be messy if you have a bunch of interfaces |
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| 20:57.29 | starfishy | cees: use stable |
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| 20:57.34 | shuu-2 | *or chmod |
| 20:57.37 | abrotman | well duh ... |
| 20:57.39 | Iwsimn | when i type "ifconfig" it displays "interrupt:11" |
| 20:57.43 | tuv | shuu-2: uid, gid mount options |
| 20:57.51 | Iwsimn | did this message help you ? |
| 20:57.53 | klync | shuu-2: in your mount command or in fstab you can set... what tuv said |
| 20:58.10 | shuu-2 | hmm ok |
| 20:58.14 | starfishy | iwsimm: what does it say if you do ifdown eth0; ifup eth0 |
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| 20:58.27 | xaxes|free | @bett |
| 20:58.31 | shuu-2 | how does the parameter looks? |
| 20:58.39 | Iwsimn | no error |
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| 20:58.48 | Iwsimn | but anyway no ip |
| 20:58.51 | tuv | what is the best way/program to setup an alarm in debian? |
| 20:59.05 | creature | I use xmmsalarm with xmms to wake me. |
| 20:59.08 | klync | Iwsimn: try running `dhcpcd eth0` |
| 20:59.21 | Iwsimn | command not found |
| 20:59.28 | klync | tuv: you could use `at` |
| 20:59.30 | Gromgull | I seem to be having an odd problem... i'm trying to install kdelibs4-dev (or really kde-devel, but it boils down to that package), and it complains that it depends on libcupsys2-dev, which "is not going to be installed". HOWEVER, that package IS installed... any ideas? |
| 20:59.35 | klync | Iwsimn: maybe it's dhclient |
| 20:59.44 | tuv | creature: is xmms reliable? does it always work? |
| 20:59.52 | klync | tuv: best mm app, imo |
| 21:00.07 | klync | oh, nm |
| 21:00.12 | Iwsimn | i try to install dhcpcd from cd |
| 21:00.14 | Iwsimn | mom |
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| 21:00.32 | klync | Iwsimn: don't call me that please |
| 21:00.42 | Iwsimn | huh ? |
| 21:00.51 | tuv | :) |
| 21:00.51 | klync | oh, were you talking to me? |
| 21:00.57 | TravisT | I have 31r0a DVD, is it worth getting 31r1 instead? |
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| 21:01.15 | starfishy | iwsimm: do you have the dhcp-client package installed? |
| 21:01.18 | abrotman | TravisT: if that's your only means of getting packages .. probably |
| 21:01.18 | Iwsimn | ohm i talked about my dhcp problem |
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| 21:01.33 | Iwsimn | i dont know what debian installed during the installation ... |
| 21:01.35 | TravisT | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:01.36 | abrotman | dhclient3 ? |
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| 21:01.44 | creature | tuv - as long as I've got it running, then yes. |
| 21:01.46 | abrotman | TravisT: if you have broadband .. probably not |
| 21:01.51 | klync | Iwsimn: try dh<tab><tab> |
| 21:02.02 | creature | tuv - xmmsalarm is an xmms plugin, so it won't start xmms for you. |
| 21:02.08 | Iwsimn | yeah there is something "dhclient, dhclient-2.0.x, dhclient-2.2.x" |
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| 21:02.24 | tuv | creature: i'm thinking of using cron, but was wondering which player should i invoke |
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| 21:02.26 | TravisT | I do. so the install part is the same? i have GForce FX5200 |
| 21:02.38 | klync | Iwsimn: try doing "ls -l `which dhclient`" ... it's probably a symlink to dhclient-2.x |
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| 21:02.56 | starfishy | iwsimm: try dpkg -l dhcp-client |
| 21:03.01 | Iwsimn | ls -L ? |
| 21:03.05 | starfishy | iwsimm: try dpkg -L dhcp-client |
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| 21:03.34 | Iwsimn | yo |
| 21:03.38 | Iwsimn | status |
| 21:03.52 | cyanid3 | i'm having some issues with apt-pinning |
| 21:04.01 | Iwsimn | not/installed/config-files/unpacked/failed-config/hilfinstalled |
| 21:04.19 | TravisT | abrotman: you think hardware detection is the same in 31r1 |
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| 21:04.29 | cyanid3 | anyone any good with it? |
| 21:04.30 | klync | cyanid3: it's tricky.... many ppl recommend using backports instead |
| 21:04.32 | creature | tuv - I used to do that with mpg321. Worked fine for me. Well, I used "at" which was a bit more flexible. |
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| 21:04.38 | abrotman | TravisT: most likely .. r1 is security updates mostly |
| 21:04.41 | cyanid3 | hmm |
| 21:04.42 | klync | cyanid3: i've struggled a bit with it, i wouldn't say i'm any good at it |
| 21:04.43 | izik | out any optical drive on it , does anyone here know how to do "network boot" installtion? ( so i can install linux on it ... )\ |
| 21:04.52 | cyanid3 | i "had" it working fine |
| 21:04.59 | cyanid3 | but then i decided to implement apt-cacher |
| 21:05.07 | TravisT | abrotman: thank you so much. I'll install now, then do updates. |
| 21:05.09 | cyanid3 | because i have 4 computers that use apt |
| 21:05.16 | abrotman | TravisT: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-2005/msg00005.html |
| 21:05.27 | tuv | creative: cat at do regular runs.. i thought it runs only once |
| 21:05.27 | Iwsimn | starfishy: not/installed/config-files/unpacked/failed-config/hilfinstalled |
| 21:05.34 | Iwsimn | is status l |
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| 21:06.02 | starfishy | iwsimm: aptitude install dhcp-client |
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| 21:06.20 | creature | tuv - it does, but that's what I wanted it for. I'd do it each night depending on what time I wanted to get up. xmmsalarm lets you set it on a day-by-day basis. |
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| 21:07.06 | Iwsimn | "aptitude install dhcp-client" "aptitude command not found |
| 21:07.16 | afabian | Capital idea! I need xmmsalarm, I have just decided! |
| 21:07.20 | klync | creature: put mpg123 in your crontab |
| 21:07.27 | Iwsimn | or what is aptitude :P ? |
| 21:07.36 | TravisT | abrotman: Perfect, Thanks again. |
| 21:07.42 | abrotman | have a nice day |
| 21:08.22 | Roey | man I'm gonna be so happy to get home today |
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| 21:08.34 | Roey | work has a way of baddening my mood |
| 21:08.47 | abrotman | get a new job! |
| 21:08.55 | abrotman | Roey: it's probably all that dell hardware |
| 21:08.57 | Roey | nono it's not that at all |
| 21:09.00 | Roey | abrotman: HAHAHAHAHA |
| 21:09.04 | Roey | abrotman: I'm so sick of dell. |
| 21:09.05 | creature | klync: Mine works fine, thank you, it was tuv who was asking alarms. |
| 21:09.12 | klync | creature: right... sorry :/ |
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| 21:09.37 | Iwsimn | starfishy: "aptitude install dhcp-client" "aptitude command not found |
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| 21:09.43 | bomin | hello |
| 21:10.10 | abrotman | !moo |
| 21:10.10 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 21:10.13 | tuv | how do i put changes in crontab into effect? non-root user cannot killall -HUP cron.. BTW, what file does crontab -e modify? |
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| 21:10.29 | bomin | has anyone here done a successful pxe boot install of debian? |
| 21:10.30 | abrotman | depends who you are |
| 21:10.34 | edrin | why is there no eclipse in debian testing??? |
| 21:10.40 | abrotman | bomin: someone surely has .. is there a specific problem |
| 21:10.44 | abrotman | !why is eclipse not in testing |
| 21:10.44 | dpkg | eclipse is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=eclipse |
| 21:11.05 | klync | tuv: system wide jobs are best placed in /etc/crontab ... `crontab -e` modfies the user's tab, which is stored, iirc, in /var/spool/cron |
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| 21:11.52 | Iwsimn | starfishy: aptitude install dhcp-client" "aptitude command not found |
| 21:11.58 | abrotman | use apt-get |
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| 21:12.02 | starfishy | apt-get install dhcp-client |
| 21:12.11 | starfishy | apt-get install aptitude dhcp-client |
| 21:12.12 | bomin | abrotman: well, I have it all configured up (dhcp/tftp/pxe) the client PXE system detects the PXE server, and starts to boot.. however I get a kernel panic because it is trying to mount the root fs.. this is after I told it root=/dev/rd/0 |
| 21:12.16 | abrotman | i thoguht it was dhclient3 |
| 21:12.27 | edrin | !why is eclipse not in sarge |
| 21:12.27 | dpkg | edrin: I think you lost me on that one |
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| 21:12.30 | abrotman | bomin: whoa .. i've never done it :) |
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| 21:12.36 | Iwsimn | dhcp-client is already the newest version -.- |
| 21:12.38 | starfishy | abrotman: on my system its dhcp-client |
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| 21:12.45 | tuv | klync: thanks.. but how do i put changes in user's crontab into effect? |
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| 21:12.47 | abrotman | !info dhclient3 sarge |
| 21:12.49 | tomplast | hi guys |
| 21:12.49 | starfishy | ii dhcp-client 2.0pl5-19.4 DHCP Client |
| 21:12.54 | tomplast | i need urgent expert help :P |
| 21:12.58 | abrotman | that's version2 |
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| 21:13.01 | starfishy | though in sarge it may be dhclient3 |
| 21:13.02 | abrotman | there is a 3 |
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| 21:13.14 | starfishy | for normal use it doesnt really matter |
| 21:13.18 | moshii | bomin: are you trying to start the installer with pxe? |
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| 21:13.20 | Marsian | Is there any reason why a user would not be able to start X? |
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| 21:13.25 | klync | tuv: well, /etc/crontab has an extra field for the user to run as, but if you want to have a separate tab for that user, then you can do `crontab -e` as that user |
| 21:13.26 | Marsian | Should they be part of a group or something? |
| 21:13.30 | bomin | moshii: yes |
| 21:13.30 | moshii | bomin: or run from pxe? |
| 21:13.31 | abrotman | starfishy: i'm sure he already has 2 or 3 installed |
| 21:13.34 | raden | anyone use rdesktop ? i have terminal services running on XP pro but i get a connection refused |
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| 21:13.40 | opnsrc | Hey all |
| 21:13.41 | bomin | moshii: start the installer |
| 21:13.44 | klync | tuv: root can also modify any user's tab, as the manpage explains |
| 21:13.46 | tomplast | is it possible to install debian from ssh or telnet? i have no keyboard for my 386 |
| 21:13.48 | Iwsimn | there are 3 clients |
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| 21:14.01 | abrotman | tomplast: it is .. somehow .. i think the install guide covers it |
| 21:14.02 | abrotman | !ig |
| 21:14.02 | dpkg | install guide is at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual and choose the 'ARCH' for your box |
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| 21:14.10 | klync | tomplast: serial port might be the easiest then |
| 21:14.10 | tuv | klync: that's what i did, i did 'crontab -e' as a non-root user but cannot activate the changes |
| 21:14.18 | izik | out any optical drive on it , does anyone here know how to do "network boot" installtion? ( so i can install linux on it ... )\' |
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| 21:14.29 | abrotman | starfishy: dhcp3-client |
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| 21:14.43 | klync | tuv: it should be active once you've saved your changes... you sure you got the time fields right? |
| 21:14.51 | izik | anyone may help me installig linux from netboot?'][] |
| 21:14.55 | klync | tuv: and, assuming crond is running |
| 21:14.56 | tomplast | klync: what do you mean by the serial port? |
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| 21:15.18 | klync | tomplast: the little connector on the back of the machine where you can plug in a mouse that was made in the eighties |
| 21:15.20 | tuv | klync: i've cron running (not crond) |
| 21:15.26 | moshii | bomin: mm I think it's just a case of using pxelinux and a kernel and initrd from a debian disc |
| 21:15.57 | bomin | moshii: i went over several documents on how to do it, with a couple of different debian versions.. the closest I came was using the vmlinuz and initrd in /install/2.6/ .. however, the interface that came up will still asking about my cdrom, not giving me an option to install from http/ftp |
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| 21:16.05 | tuv | klync: time: minutes then hour in 24-hour format, right? |
| 21:16.38 | centrx | what is the easiest way to simply encrypt a file with a password |
| 21:16.39 | tomplast | klyc: i know but it doesnt help me. i dont have any keyboard for it. it must be possible to have an installation that have ssh enabled directly |
| 21:16.50 | klync | tuv: i always paste this line at the start of every crontab i edit... # minute hour day-of-month month day-of-week command |
| 21:16.53 | Iwsimn | starfishy: to install gentoo was much easyier :P |
| 21:16.54 | abrotman | tomplast: it is .. ask #debian-boot |
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| 21:17.06 | tomplast | abrotman: thanks |
| 21:17.06 | moshii | bomin: I'm not sure how it would work with sarge as the installer is different, but I think the initrd in woody is self-contained |
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| 21:17.18 | tomplast | and thanks klync |
| 21:17.34 | bomin | hmm |
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| 21:17.43 | bomin | moshii: I'll load it up and take a look |
| 21:17.48 | abrotman | damn it .. |
| 21:17.56 | moshii | bomin: sarge uses udebs etc to put the bits of the installer together, so you need somewhere to get them from after loading the initrd |
| 21:17.56 | cyanid3 | does anyone know a way to set up ifconfig and iwconfig as a regular user? |
| 21:18.00 | Iwsimn | i reinstall debian now -.- |
| 21:18.05 | cyanid3 | i mean to be used by a regular user |
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| 21:18.44 | moshii | bomin: have a look at the debian-installer wiki http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
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| 21:19.10 | Marsian | I am getting the error "fatal server error: cannot establish and listening sockets" from X.org. Any ideas on what to do? |
| 21:19.11 | stew | cyanid3: man wireless ; man interfaces |
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| 21:19.45 | klync | tomplast: you'll have to google to find an install disk that has ssh on it, but if you have a serial cable, you can connect the serial port to another machine, and run a terminal application |
| 21:19.48 | stew | abrotman: leave work early and get on your bike |
| 21:19.48 | centrx | Question: What would be the standard, non-Caesar, simple method to securely encrypt a single file with a password? |
| 21:19.52 | cyanid3 | alright |
| 21:20.06 | abrotman | stew: i don't even have my own car .. i can't rack it .. car's in the shop today |
| 21:20.07 | cyanid3 | shoulda checked there first, oh well |
| 21:20.19 | afabian | centrx, openssl will do that. So will gpg, I think. |
| 21:20.20 | klync | tomaw: e.g. minicom |
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| 21:20.57 | Rixa | centrx: gpg -c should do it |
| 21:20.58 | abrotman | klync: there's a way with the debian installer to do it via ssh |
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| 21:21.15 | klync | abrotman: with the official install cds? |
| 21:21.26 | bomin | is sarge "stable" now? |
| 21:21.33 | abrotman | klync: i believe so |
| 21:21.41 | stew | bomin: yes |
| 21:22.06 | bomin | crap, where do I download a woody ISO |
| 21:22.28 | centrx | bomin, Debian 3.1, alias sarge, was released as stable in June |
| 21:22.39 | Newck | is there a way to use one firefox profile for dual boot Win/Linux? |
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| 21:23.08 | stew | bomin: archive.debian.org |
| 21:23.16 | telenieko | Hi ppl. Is there anyway to get UFS write support on Debian/Linux ? the module is compiled read-only ;) |
| 21:23.29 | azeem | bomin: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/images/3.0_r6/ |
| 21:23.46 | bomin | awesome azeem, thanks |
| 21:23.50 | abrotman | Newck: yeah .. store it on a vfat partition :) |
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| 21:24.15 | RedKnight | Hey, I can't seem to get my kde screen size to go any bigger than 800x600 |
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| 21:24.30 | Newck | abrotman: well, i might. i guess the directory structure is the same? |
| 21:25.11 | abrotman | Newck: dunno .. you'd have to ask somewhere on irc.mozilla.org |
| 21:25.21 | Newck | RedKnight: you need to edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 |
| 21:25.21 | sifi-x | RedKnight, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-[xorg] [xfree86] |
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| 21:26.05 | Marsian | Does anyone know why when the X server starts it goes to blank screen and then I can't switch to terminal? |
| 21:26.14 | Marsian | Or even seem to do anything? |
| 21:26.17 | Tortel | damnit, my p key is not working, and its software, but when I try and fix it it says 'Error activating XKB configuration.It can happen under various circumstances' |
| 21:26.36 | Newck | Marsian: hardware config problem maybe. can you ctrl-alt-backspace to kill it? |
| 21:26.44 | sifi-x | RedKnight, or do what Newck told you, if its x.org the file is /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 21:26.47 | Marsian | Newck: No |
| 21:27.02 | klync | Marsian: does your numlock button work? |
| 21:27.18 | SperMite | http://www.motyr.5gigs.com/deKorator/deKoratorFlashMovie/intallTheme/installTheme.html what programs records like this?? |
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| 21:28.09 | Newck | SperMite: that's slick. i'd love to know to |
| 21:28.12 | Newck | too |
| 21:29.02 | SperMite | Newck i know right .. i can record me kicking butt in neverball |
| 21:29.19 | SperMite | or frozen-bubble |
| 21:29.37 | Marsian | klync: No |
| 21:29.54 | klync | Marsian: then your kernel has panicked... |
| 21:30.00 | Marsian | >.> |
| 21:30.17 | mslilley | Hi all. Newbie to Linux here. Wondered if I could ask a question? |
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| 21:30.17 | Newck | SperMite: there *are* avi2flash conversion tools |
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| 21:30.36 | sifi-x | mslilley, go ahead and ask it |
| 21:30.47 | Newck | SperMite: maybe they took lots of screenshots with a hotkey, made an avi, and used that |
| 21:31.14 | Newck | or 1 screenshot every X seconds in a script |
| 21:31.18 | clydem | she asked a question, while she was asking if she could ask a question.... |
| 21:31.19 | sifi-x | or maybe then recorded it |
| 21:31.19 | mslilley | trying to configure wine-20050111 on Debian Testing from source but I get the following error: relay16asm.s:36: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' - Any ideas? |
| 21:31.20 | klync | Marsian: i would guess it has something to do with the video drivers... i would look into what kernel modules you have loaded / configured for video, including agp and fg |
| 21:31.33 | Marsian | fg? |
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| 21:31.39 | klync | fb |
| 21:31.57 | Marsian | I disabled fb, should it be enabled? |
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| 21:32.19 | RedKnight | Hmm, it can't find dpkg-reconfigure |
| 21:32.34 | sifi-x | SperMite, but where can I themes like: http://www.motyr.5gigs.com/deKorator/deKoratorFlashMovie/intallTheme/installTheme.html |
| 21:32.39 | RedKnight | but it has the man page for it |
| 21:32.48 | SperMite | well if you llook in the very beginning the guy has a konsole pulled up and it says recording |
| 21:33.16 | sifi-x | SperMite, exactly |
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| 21:33.40 | ulph | !tell ulph about w32codecs |
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| 21:33.46 | mrec | is there any way to reset the keyboard in X? shift, ctrl, numlock doesn't act anymore ..? |
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| 21:34.02 | klync | Marsian: depends... i don't think that would be a problem, but it's clearly the kernel freezing up if numlock doesn't work any more |
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| 21:34.16 | SperMite | sifi-x you can get themes like that off kde-look.org |
| 21:34.16 | tuv | i don't understand, i add a cron job using "crontab -e" for a non-root user that runs xmms but it doesn't. when it's supposed to run i see aline in /var/log/syslog: "/USR/SBIN/CRON"..."CMD (/usr/bin/xmms <filename-to-play>)".. what's wrong? i don't see any errors in /var/log/syslog |
| 21:34.18 | _elessar | hi |
| 21:34.34 | izik | can anyone help me with netbooting??? |
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| 21:35.01 | _elessar | i am using (K)ubuuntu now, but kernel in this douesn't provide driver for nforce AGP |
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| 21:35.12 | _elessar | for athlon 64 |
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| 21:35.15 | tuv | could it be that cron doesn't have access to X? |
| 21:35.19 | streuner_ | _elessar: #ubuntu |
| 21:35.26 | mslilley | Anyone know what relay16asm.s:36: Error: suffix or operands invalid for `mov' - means when configuring WINE-20050111 from source on Debian testing? |
| 21:35.33 | streuner_ | _elessar: or #kubuntu if that channel exist |
| 21:36.19 | _elessar | streuner_: yes, yes, but I wan't to check (let me and the question - i p[ressed enter too fast) if Debian have this drive |
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| 21:36.37 | _elessar | packagesdebian.org doesnt' worlk |
| 21:36.58 | streuner_ | _elessar: hm |
| 21:37.00 | _elessar | sorrry for mistakes, i'm after exams and celebrating (beers!! ;))) |
| 21:37.08 | _elessar | athlon 64 |
| 21:37.11 | streuner_ | no problem ;-) |
| 21:37.13 | thingfish | !beer _elessar |
| 21:37.17 | streuner_ | !amd64 |
| 21:37.17 | dpkg | i heard amd64 is See http://www.debian.org/ports/amd64/ and the #debian-amd64 IRC channel, or https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html, not official yet, will be a supported arch on Etch, or a generic name. it also supports xeon etc, see http://wiki.debian.net/?DebianAMD64Faq. Consider using debian/i386 if you do not have a good reason to use debian/amd64 |
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| 21:37.49 | tr1gg3r | mslilley, that looks like an assembly compile error |
| 21:37.53 | _elessar | yep, I know - I'm keen on Linux (for some ye\ars .... :)) |
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| 21:38.14 | thingfish | _elessar: are you drunk? heh |
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| 21:38.24 | mkMan | Hi, does anyone know how could I set "make-kpkg" to use other gcc version (ie, 3.4)??? |
| 21:38.25 | Gromgull | noone else had problems with kde-devel and kdelibs4-dev then? |
| 21:38.38 | _elessar | thingfish: after 4 beers? Polish guy... no so much ;0 |
| 21:38.39 | _elessar | :) |
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| 21:38.53 | tuv | how can i know why a user cron job isn't running? |
| 21:39.09 | wethion | Heyas. I need a suggestion. I'm trying to find a web based calendar suite that's simple enough for my technologically challenged parents to use, but powerful enough for my exec. admin. asst. fiancee to find useful. And that supports secure connections. Ideas/suggestions? |
| 21:39.13 | streuner_ | tuv: /var/log/syslog |
| 21:39.18 | thingfish | _elessar: hahaha ok, you're right I guess. anyway, congrats on being done with exams. |
| 21:39.41 | dusty- | Hey guys I want to listen to www.radio1.com live stream its a ram file (needs realplayer) but i can also play it through my browser, but i need a plugin (browser if mozilla firefox, debian 3.1 r1) ? |
| 21:39.47 | tr1gg3r | mkMan, the easiest way, is to install gcc-3.4 then make a sym link to it to in a dir like ~/bin then do export PATH=~/bin:$PATH |
| 21:39.48 | dusty- | How do i configure it? |
| 21:40.07 | _elessar | thingfish: thx. I \'m installing system on my friends computer and I need 3D acceleration./..... |
| 21:40.07 | tuv | streuner_: the job shows in /var/log/syslog but i don't see its output and there are no errors in /var/log/syslog |
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| 21:40.49 | Iwsimn | starfishy: maybe i miss somethiing called BOOTP ... |
| 21:40.59 | Iwsimn | starfishy: for my dhcp config |
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| 21:42.07 | starfishy | bootp is not what you want |
| 21:42.08 | sifi-x | SperMite, do you know any thats look like: http://www.motyr.5gigs.com/deKorator/deKoratorFlashMovie/intallTheme/installTheme.html it was really cool =) |
| 21:42.22 | starfishy | bootp is for booting diskless clients and such |
| 21:42.26 | centrx | Question: How do I find the earliest modify date of a document within a directory and its subdirectories? |
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| 21:42.41 | mkMan | tr1gg3r the easy way worked perfectly!!! Thanks :D |
| 21:42.57 | tr1gg3r | mkMan, np |
| 21:43.13 | mkMan | :) |
| 21:43.18 | gnube | MrMazda, abrotman Thanks for the help previously, I mananged to improve things somewhat with my x server |
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| 21:43.28 | mkMan | back to work now, have a nice day all! |
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| 21:43.43 | abrotman | yay! |
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| 21:44.26 | setog3 | I have a little network , but no gateway , only an adsl router , and I wan't to know which computer is using the connection , how can I know this ? is it a debian package to see all trafic on switch and say who is making what ? I repeat I haven't any gateway |
| 21:44.39 | _elessar | can anyone check if apg nodules for nforce3 (agpgart or nvidia_agp) are in Debian64? |
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| 21:45.02 | _elessar | packages.debian.org is overloaded |
| 21:45.16 | beta_ | setog3: The ADSL-router is a so called "gateway" btw.. |
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| 21:46.15 | setog3 | beta .. ok , but I can't get anything from this adsl router , no sntp no graph.. |
| 21:46.24 | RedKnight | Hey, I can't seem to get my kde screen size to go any bigger than 800x600 |
| 21:48.02 | gnube | RedKnight, Are you kidding? I just had that problem! |
| 21:48.08 | sifi-x | SperMite, he is using VNC |
| 21:48.39 | gnube | RedKnight, run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 21:48.59 | _keroppi_ | Has anyone here got the open-source radeon driver working with xinerama? |
| 21:49.01 | tuv | how do i forward both out and err to a file? |
| 21:49.16 | gnube | tuv, Look at tee |
| 21:49.19 | brick | in bash, tuv, 2>&1 |
| 21:49.24 | sifi-x | RedKnight, you have allready said that, have you done what we have told you to? |
| 21:49.27 | gnube | tuv, do this; man tee |
| 21:49.27 | RedKnight | gnube: dpkg-reconfigure isn't a recognized command |
| 21:49.28 | SperMite | http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=31834 i think this one looks decent sifi-x |
| 21:49.40 | gnube | RedKnight, It is if you are root. |
| 21:49.42 | gnube | :) |
| 21:49.50 | RedKnight | ah, now you tell me |
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| 21:49.57 | gnube | yep, now I tell you. |
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| 21:50.20 | setog3 | ok I thing ntop can do this , thx |
| 21:50.23 | MrMazda | gnube: how much improvement did u get? |
| 21:50.25 | setog3 | thx apt-cache search |
| 21:50.29 | freq | !xorg sarge |
| 21:50.29 | dpkg | xorg sarge is probably now available at http://backports.org/ |
| 21:50.46 | sifi-x | SperMite, thx dude =) |
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| 21:51.18 | sifi-x | SperMite, anyway, it seems like they are using VNC |
| 21:51.27 | gnube | MrMazda, Well, I managed to get up to 1024 x 768 |
| 21:51.29 | Iwsimn | starfishy: debian made the onboard network card to eth0 ............ i used the pci networkcard LOL |
| 21:51.44 | gnube | MrMazda, But I think the monitor can do better. |
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| 21:51.55 | sifi-x | SperMite, they record through a VNC connection (remote access), server and client |
| 21:52.02 | simonp | hi. anyone knows where to find detailed information about preseed (hands-off installs). d-i still asks me questions, and i would like to debug the problem |
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| 21:52.17 | m5114 | gnube: this monitor officially supports only up to 1280x1024 but I'm running 1792x1344 |
| 21:52.33 | sandman | Can COBOL programs be made to interface with C/C++ programs running on the same system with relative ease? |
| 21:52.34 | gnube | m5114, Really? Wow, how did you do that? |
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| 21:52.40 | sandman | Perhaps through pipes? And can it be done effectively? |
| 21:52.42 | MrMazda | gnube: so don't settle for too little |
| 21:52.57 | gnube | MrMazda, For real, this is too chunky |
| 21:53.03 | m5114 | gnube: monitor specs often lie |
| 21:53.03 | gnube | everything is huge. |
| 21:53.25 | gnube | m5114, How did you tweak it? |
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| 21:53.38 | m5114 | no tweaking at all |
| 21:53.45 | simonp | more specifically, it always ask for mirror/country and mirror/http/hostname even though it's specified in the preseed file |
| 21:53.46 | SperMite | sifi-x hmm sounds tricky |
| 21:53.55 | sifi-x | SperMite, yes, but cool |
| 21:53.57 | m5114 | fresh install, just answered a few quesions at end of install |
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| 21:54.15 | SperMite | sifi-x yeah. it is pretty cool |
| 21:54.15 | gnube | m5114, yeah but I just did a fresh install with no such luck |
| 21:54.20 | simonp | it always asks for netcfg/get_hostname too |
| 21:54.23 | sifi-x | SperMite, its a great practice in VNC, tell me how to do it ;) |
| 21:54.48 | MrMazda | gnube: this box is my OS/2 box, while m5114 is my fresh Debian install |
| 21:55.14 | sifi-x | SperMite, VNC will prolly set standards for graphical recording, just a guess |
| 21:55.33 | sifi-x | SperMite, cause their is a lot of appz that could do it |
| 21:55.34 | RedKnight | Ok, I'm running the reconfigure and it wants the video card's bus identifier |
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| 21:55.43 | RedKnight | any easy way to figure that out |
| 21:55.55 | SperMite | sifi-x i'm guessing that also, but then again i don't know much about it |
| 21:56.06 | sifi-x | RedKnight, you dont need to set the video card.... |
| 21:56.10 | Iwsimn | bye guys THANKS 4 your help !!! |
| 21:56.23 | Iwsimn | byebye |
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| 21:56.31 | sifi-x | SperMite, neither do I, I have full up here with sh all days =) |
| 21:57.00 | gnube | MrMazda, Oh I see |
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| 21:57.18 | gnube | RedKnight, YEah, that is a little tricky |
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| 21:57.39 | BTadmin- | what dir is located where to edit all the 404, 403 files for apache ? |
| 21:57.48 | RedKnight | sifi-x: Everything I've seen since I've been running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 has been about the video card |
| 21:57.50 | BTadmin- | ver 1.33 |
| 21:57.53 | BTadmin- | 1.1.33 |
| 21:58.06 | gnube | RedKnight, DO this, lspci -vv |
| 21:58.24 | sifi-x | RedKnight, yes, but you don't have to _specify_ it |
| 21:58.37 | gnube | that should give you some info about the video card on your machine |
| 21:59.07 | gnube | it looks like this: 0000:08:00 blah blah blah ATI RAGE XL monkey puss |
| 21:59.12 | gnube | or something like that. |
| 21:59.21 | sifi-x | gnube, lspci is not in Etch... |
| 21:59.31 | gnube | ach! |
| 21:59.31 | MrMazda | o_O |
| 21:59.33 | gnube | sorry |
| 21:59.52 | gnube | :} |
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| 22:00.02 | SperMite | Tell you what man, i took a flinstone vitamin today for the hell of it and its making me sickk |
| 22:00.10 | funbags | whois funbags |
| 22:00.16 | peepo | is there a way to get autoconf2.53 into Debian unstable? |
| 22:00.18 | sifi-x | gnube, how do I check the video card information in Etch |
| 22:00.20 | gnube | that'll teach you to eat vitamins |
| 22:00.21 | peepo | (in a clean way) |
| 22:00.35 | Gromgull | hmm... is there a way to convert a .iso file to a .img? |
| 22:00.35 | m5114 | sifi-x: this Etch has lspci |
| 22:00.52 | sifi-x | m5114, hmm, not mine |
| 22:00.54 | gnube | yeah it is kinda weird that lspci would not be in Etch |
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| 22:00.57 | sifi-x | m5114, beta 1 |
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| 22:01.15 | gnube | sifi-x, you're root of course . . . |
| 22:01.23 | sifi-x | gnube, yes =) |
| 22:01.28 | m5114 | sifi-x: fresh ftp install last night |
| 22:01.29 | shuu-2 | ok guys need some help when I should mount my ntfs disk I am using this: mount /dev/sda1 /home/shuu/250/ -t ntfs so, how should I set the user rights so the users can read from it? |
| 22:01.32 | benjamindees | Gromgull, technically, it's already an .img |
| 22:01.36 | gnufa1 | BTadmin-: In v2 it is defined by "ErrorDocument" in the apache2.conf file... not the same in 1? |
| 22:01.47 | sifi-x | gnube, but a regular user could not execute lspci |
| 22:01.49 | BTadmin- | hm, havent checked the conf actually |
| 22:01.49 | BTadmin- | buit i will |
| 22:01.51 | Gromgull | right... so iso files have no header bytes? so i can just cat it to a floppy? |
| 22:01.53 | gnube | sifi-x, What does apt-cache seach lspci say? |
| 22:01.55 | BTadmin- | thanks, imma werite that down for late |
| 22:01.56 | Gromgull | or usb-key? |
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| 22:02.25 | sifi-x | gnube, zEr0 |
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| 22:02.32 | gnube | shite |
| 22:02.35 | tr1gg3r | shuu-2, itslikely ull need something like this in fstab uid=1000,gid=100 or use with mount -o |
| 22:02.50 | sifi-x | gnube, lsusb is fine |
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| 22:03.06 | gnube | kewl |
| 22:03.11 | shuu-2 | yes but after -o what should i write there? |
| 22:03.17 | sifi-x | gnube, do I have to load some modules, Im running the default stock kernel that comes with Etch |
| 22:03.30 | tr1gg3r | shuu-2, uid=1000,gid=100 |
| 22:03.30 | gnube | sifi-x, What version is that? |
| 22:03.37 | shuu-2 | ok |
| 22:03.46 | sifi-x | beta 1 testing/unstable |
| 22:03.48 | tuv | i can invoke mpg321 from cron without a problem.. but can't do the same with xmms. why not? |
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| 22:04.06 | gnube | sifi-x, But what version of the kernel? What does uname -a say? |
| 22:04.14 | benjamindees | Gromgull, .iso is a filesystem, like fat or ext2; .img is a generic file type for a filesystem image |
| 22:04.15 | sifi-x | gnube, ah, 2.6 |
| 22:04.21 | m5114 | 2.6.12 here |
| 22:04.21 | gnube | gotcha |
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| 22:04.29 | lpb-oberon | is there an other way than mount /dev/hda1 -o remount,rw to make hda1 wirteable again |
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| 22:04.34 | sifi-x | gnube, Linux debian 2.6.12-1-686-smp |
| 22:04.40 | gnube | ok, thats it, I am updating |
| 22:04.48 | shuu-2 | thx |
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| 22:04.53 | tr1gg3r | lpb-oberon, umount then mount |
| 22:04.54 | Gromgull | benjamindees, right, so cat'ing a iso to usb-key is gonna break, cause isa file systems are only for CDs? |
| 22:04.59 | benjamindees | Gromgull, so you probably have to copy the files into a loopback disk or something |
| 22:05.02 | lpb-oberon | i can't |
| 22:05.03 | sifi-x | gnube, ? =) |
| 22:05.15 | gnube | hello? |
| 22:05.17 | lpb-oberon | that pc i not at home |
| 22:05.22 | benjamindees | Gromgull, honestly I've never tried that, but there's a chance it may actually work |
| 22:05.25 | lpb-oberon | and hda1 is the root partition |
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| 22:05.43 | gnube | Etch is unstable right? Just double checking. |
| 22:05.44 | lpb-oberon | s/i/is/ |
| 22:05.46 | gnufa1 | lpb-oberon: hda1 is writable anyway, but the filesystem on it will probably need to be mounted writable to be used. What you up to. |
| 22:05.48 | gnube | sid is testing |
| 22:05.52 | sifi-x | gnube, yes it is |
| 22:05.53 | tr1gg3r | lpb-oberon, u may be able to change fstab and do mount -a |
| 22:05.54 | gnube | we don't want sid |
| 22:06.13 | tr1gg3r | gnube, sid is unstable |
| 22:06.18 | sifi-x | gnube, sid is fine if you want to mess with backports |
| 22:06.19 | gnufa1 | Damn stop talking about Kernel versions I have a kernel bug test to do on a laptop, if I can find it again |
| 22:06.31 | lpb-oberon | no its a linux-noob installation |
| 22:06.32 | peepo | is there a way to get autoconf2.53 into Debian unstable? |
| 22:06.35 | gnube | tr1gg3r, So Etch is testing |
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| 22:06.42 | lpb-oberon | everything is on hda1 |
| 22:06.44 | tr1gg3r | gnube, true |
| 22:06.48 | sifi-x | gnube, yes |
| 22:06.54 | peepo | (K3B SVN which doesn't make DVD coasters requires it) |
| 22:06.54 | gnube | tr1gg3r, Much obliged |
| 22:06.59 | jjazz | I know ssh can do remote commands, but it only returns the output. I want to ssh, open a console, and start an interactive program (i.e. mutt), all in one command from my local xterm. Can ssh do this? Thanks. |
| 22:07.03 | gnube | sifi-x, , Much obliged |
| 22:07.04 | Gromgull | benjamindees, right... i can get the FILES from the iso image, but what about the boot sector?... hmm... i'll google and report back |
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| 22:07.29 | sifi-x | gnube, it comes with 2.6 as inbuilt stock kernel and x.org is avalible |
| 22:07.37 | gnufa1 | peepo: you want to go backwards in versions for autoconf? Can't you just fix the package? |
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| 22:07.53 | sifi-x | gnube, + KDE 3.4 |
| 22:07.55 | RedKnight | Ok, I finished the reconfigure. When do the changes take effect? |
| 22:07.56 | lpb-oberon | tr1gg3r: more ideas? |
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| 22:08.34 | peepo | gnufa1, /admin/cvs.sh: line 33: --version: command not found |
| 22:08.41 | sifi-x | gnube, I really recommend it for desktops |
| 22:08.42 | tr1gg3r | lpb-oberon, u cant change fstab and do mount -a? |
| 22:08.51 | peepo | gnufa1, on my system 2.13 is default |
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| 22:08.55 | benjamindees | Gromgull, you can extract the el torito image from an .iso; there are tools to do that |
| 22:08.58 | peepo | what's the best way to reconfigure it to use 2.5? |
| 22:08.59 | sifi-x | RedKnight, restart your DE |
| 22:09.03 | gnube | sifi-x, I am running a desktop so it should be perfect |
| 22:09.16 | gnube | The 2.4 kernel on sarge is ancient. |
| 22:09.37 | sifi-x | gnube, thats just perf =) |
| 22:09.37 | RedKnight | Thanks |
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| 22:09.38 | abrotman | it's not ancient |
| 22:09.38 | sifi-x | RedKnight, Ctrl+Alt+Backspace |
| 22:09.42 | FrankHartmann | Hello, what might cause /etc/resolv.conf being -rw------- 1 root root? This problems appeared after apt-get upgrade && reboot. Ideas? |
| 22:09.46 | Gromgull | "The standard is apparently named after El Torito (Spanish: the little bull) restaurants. The designers of the format were eating at an El Torito outlet when they came up with the format and wrote the first draft on a napkin." hahaa |
| 22:10.00 | aimtrainer | hi! can anyone tell me how to make a screenshot |
| 22:10.04 | gnufa1 | peepo: "man autoconf" |
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| 22:10.06 | tr1gg3r | sifi-x, btw u wont need backports for sid, stuff is backported from sid |
| 22:10.10 | gnube | sifi-x, what does your apt/sources.list look like? Do you just have etch in there or do you have testing? |
| 22:10.14 | gnube | does it matter? |
| 22:10.18 | tr1gg3r | no |
| 22:10.18 | sifi-x | aimtrainer, ksnapshot in KDE |
| 22:10.23 | benjamindees | Gromgull, but the "boot sector" in an iso filesystem is in a completely different place than the boot sector on a floppy or hard drive |
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| 22:10.33 | aimtrainer | sifi-x thanks |
| 22:10.44 | benjamindees | Gromgull, even though they are basically identical |
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| 22:10.58 | sifi-x | gnube, testing, run apt-setup if you want the defaults |
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| 22:11.31 | gnube | sifi-x, never used apt-setup, I'll try it now |
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| 22:12.13 | gnube | sifi-x, written by Joey Hess (See Shy Joe) |
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| 22:12.44 | sifi-x | gnube, one thing, x.org does not like GNOME so I recommend KDE |
| 22:12.59 | Tortel | is there a way to override gnome's control over keyboard use? noone is answering in ##gnome |
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| 22:13.01 | gnube | sifi-x, But I am running XFree86 |
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| 22:13.30 | sifi-x | gnube, x.org is default in Etch, are you not going to switch |
| 22:13.31 | MrMazda | gnube: you'll be using xorg if using etch |
| 22:13.50 | gnube | Oh ok, that is what I run at work so no big deal |
| 22:14.04 | gnube | I run X.org at work and GNOME seems pretty ok |
| 22:14.09 | gnube | so far as I can tell. |
| 22:14.18 | sifi-x | gnube, ok |
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| 22:14.27 | gnube | sifi-x, what are the things you have seen that are buggy? |
| 22:14.30 | Tortel2 | my P key dies in gnome right now |
| 22:14.42 | Tortel | does work here |
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| 22:14.52 | tr1gg3r | MrMazda, they may have changed it but when xorg first came out u had to manually install xorg which would remove xf86, for sid at least |
| 22:14.59 | The_Only` | hi, I'm new to GNU/Linux. I have a problem with the sound output with ALSA from more than one process (for example xmms and xine or whatever). I get "device is busy" on the second process... A friend told me I have to recompile the kernel without the OSS support but compiling a new kernel is quite hard for a beginner (; I have used only apt for new kernels |
| 22:14.59 | gnube | wouldn't that be your keyboard and not the desktop environment? |
| 22:15.07 | Tortel | noe |
| 22:15.11 | Fujoor | is there anyway to check what kind of dist. our server uses? |
| 22:15.12 | Tortel | dammnit |
| 22:15.21 | Tortel2 | nope, its gnome |
| 22:15.23 | Tortel2 | see? |
| 22:15.24 | sifi-x | gnube, I dont use GNOME anymore, but just 2 days ago I saw that someone was having probs with it |
| 22:15.27 | Fujoor | without physicly going there |
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| 22:15.37 | sifi-x | gnube, in this channel |
| 22:15.43 | peppet | The_Only`, killall esd artsd |
| 22:15.43 | gnube | sifi-x, aha |
| 22:15.46 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, if using a debian kernel installing alsa-base should prevent oss modules from loading |
| 22:16.05 | sifi-x | gnube, but if you don't have any probs, keep using it |
| 22:16.11 | The_Only` | tr1gg3r, 2.6.8-2-k7 image from apt |
| 22:16.16 | Tortel | Fujoor: http://phpsysinfo.sourceforge.net/ <=-Tells you everything |
| 22:16.21 | gnube | sifi-x, I'll give it a shot. |
| 22:16.27 | Fujoor | tortel: thank you tortel |
| 22:16.27 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, yes that is a debian kernel |
| 22:16.29 | sifi-x | gnube, KDE? |
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| 22:16.42 | The_Only` | tr1gg3r, I can still use oss :/ |
| 22:16.57 | peppet | The_Only`, can you hear system sounds? |
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| 22:16.57 | gnube | sifi-x, Fraid not |
| 22:16.58 | sifi-x | gnube, ;) |
| 22:17.04 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, not if stop the modules from loading |
| 22:17.05 | gnube | I am not crazy about KDE, not to get religious. |
| 22:17.15 | gnube | Too shiny. |
| 22:17.26 | gnube | I'm easily distracted. |
| 22:17.32 | gnube | baffled even |
| 22:17.36 | sifi-x | hehe |
| 22:17.39 | gnube | heh |
| 22:17.46 | The_Only` | peppet, em... which sounds ? I only use xmms and movie players for sounds. Sometimes the PC Speaker "beeps" when using Aterm |
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| 22:18.35 | peppet | The_Only`, is esd (or artsd) running? |
| 22:18.37 | gnube | I am not seeing all of my partitions |
| 22:18.45 | The_Only` | sec |
| 22:19.07 | sifi-x | gnube, why |
| 22:19.13 | gnube | Is there some tool to find things that aren't showing in df? |
| 22:19.26 | sifi-x | gnube, fdisk -l /dev/foo |
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| 22:19.32 | gnube | sifi-x, Well, I partitioned my hard drive and split it in half |
| 22:19.39 | gnube | sifi-x, thanks |
| 22:19.50 | The_Only` | peppet, no |
| 22:19.51 | benjamindees | gnube, cat /proc/partitions |
| 22:19.53 | jason__ | i is it easier to remove then reinstall apache2 completely, or easier to just reload the .conf files? |
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| 22:20.20 | gnube | benjamindees, thanks |
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| 22:20.46 | sifi-x | jason__, apt-get remove --purge apache2 && apt-get install apache2 |
| 22:21.46 | gnube | hmmm. fdisk is saying 39054014 unallocated sectors |
| 22:21.49 | jason__ | sifi - x, and do i need re-do all my php packages to? |
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| 22:22.29 | The_Only` | and when skype attempts to play a sound |
| 22:22.33 | The_Only` | it also crashes |
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| 22:22.56 | gnube | jason__, Yeah, you will need to re-install the php - apache2 config |
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| 22:23.07 | CosmoDad | can I download a single .deb without its dependencies using apt-get/aptitude? |
| 22:23.08 | gnube | jason__, You have to tell apache that you are using php, etc. |
| 22:23.22 | sifi-x | jason__, If you need to |
| 22:23.55 | gnube | jason__, There are some good howtos on the web about installing the latest apache and php |
| 22:23.57 | jason__ | so, just purge all the apache2 php stuff |
| 22:24.06 | gnube | jason__, why? |
| 22:24.15 | gnube | why are you getting rid of it all? |
| 22:24.31 | jason__ | gnube, because if i am purging apache2, dont i have to reinstall php4 as well? |
| 22:24.46 | gnube | jason__, No you do not have to re-install php4 |
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| 22:24.52 | sifi-x | latest apache (2) is not treesafe however |
| 22:25.10 | gnube | jason__, But you will have to re-configure apache2 to recognize php4 |
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| 22:25.17 | jason__ | i am purging apache2 because i was having trouble getting apache2 to parse php files, and i think i messed up my mime.types conf file. |
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| 22:25.26 | gnube | jason__, why are you deleting apache anyway? |
| 22:25.30 | TauPan | moin |
| 22:25.40 | gnube | sifi-x, fdisk is saying 39054014 unallocated sectors |
| 22:25.47 | RedKnight | It worked. Thanks scfi-x and gnube! |
| 22:25.48 | gnube | maybe that is why I cannot mount it |
| 22:25.57 | jason__ | gnube, because i was having trouble getting apache2 to parse php files, and i think i messed up my mime.types conf file. |
| 22:25.57 | gnube | RedKnight, My pleasure. |
| 22:26.02 | The_Only` | tr1gg3r, is there any solution to the problem without compiling a new kernel ? |
| 22:26.16 | gnube | jason__, Why do you think that? That sounds unlikely. |
| 22:26.21 | gnube | to me anyway. |
| 22:26.28 | Tortel | is there a way to override gnome's control over keyboard use? noone is answering in ##gnome |
| 22:26.42 | jason__ | gnube, i was trying to troubleshoot apache2, and someoen from the apache channel told me to remove all the php lines from the mime.type file in the /etc dir. |
| 22:26.42 | sifi-x | gnube, maybe, or maybe becuse the fs is only ro? |
| 22:26.57 | gnube | sifi-x, o, good point |
| 22:26.57 | sifi-x | gnube, yes, you didnt even find them you said |
| 22:27.04 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, again i say installing alsa-base should prevent oss modules from loading |
| 22:27.13 | sifi-x | gnube, check /etc/fstab |
| 22:27.27 | gnube | jason__, oh, well, if someone in #apache said that then I guess its ok. |
| 22:27.36 | The_Only` | tr1gg3r, it is installed (; |
| 22:27.36 | gnube | sifi-x, fstab does not mention it |
| 22:27.47 | The_Only` | and to the latest stable version for sarge from apt |
| 22:27.48 | gnube | sifi-x, It is on /dev/hda1 |
| 22:27.51 | bonden | hello. the last two days I have compiled two kernels with pkg, still I can only boot with the pre-compiled kernel that comes with Etch - the newly compiled kernels just blank screens on the upstart(I wont get no display) Any idees what has happened, or what I can do to correct this? |
| 22:28.15 | jason__ | gnube, is there anyway i could just maybe replace that one conf file...that's when everyhting started messing up |
| 22:28.21 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, do lsmod|grep -i oss to see if any oss modules are loaded |
| 22:28.40 | tr1gg3r | also make sure apps like xmms are set to use alsa not oss |
| 22:28.51 | gnube | jason__, Yeah, sure, that is what I would try first |
| 22:28.53 | sifi-x | gnube, define how /etc/fstab config hda1 |
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| 22:29.15 | The_Only` | tr1gg3r, xmms is set to ALSA, OSS modules are loaded |
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| 22:29.25 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, btw if u just installed alsa-base u would need to reboot to prevent it loading oss modules |
| 22:29.26 | The_Only` | skype uses /dev/dsp as a default |
| 22:29.39 | The_Only` | i have alsa since my debian installation |
| 22:29.46 | jason__ | gnube, okay...could i get a backup or something of the mime.type file? |
| 22:29.46 | nemy | Hi, I have xorg 6.9.0.dfsg.1-3 installed and my ^ key is non longer a dead key so, I can't type accented letters. Is it a reported bug or should I file one or is there a workaround ? |
| 22:29.48 | The_Only` | 15 restarts since then |
| 22:30.16 | gnube | jason__, Try to pull a copy of mime.type from the web if you really need it. |
| 22:30.34 | gnube | sifi-x, It looks like fstab is saying it is the cdrom |
| 22:30.38 | jason__ | gnube, from where? |
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| 22:30.47 | tr1gg3r | The_Only`, alsa drivers are included in kernel, alsa-base is a pkg to prevent oss modules from loading, dpkg -l |grep alsa-base to be sure, also u can modprobe -r all of the oss modules |
| 22:31.04 | sifi-x | gnube, keh? |
| 22:31.26 | _max_ | if i press ctrl Z and zombie a process (by mistake) |
| 22:31.31 | _max_ | can i reverse it and de-zombie it ? |
| 22:31.35 | nemy | fg |
| 22:31.38 | tr1gg3r | _max_, fg |
| 22:31.43 | gnube | sifi-x, I know . . . |
| 22:31.46 | _max_ | thank you! |
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| 22:32.12 | gnube | sifi-x, I had Ubuntu on here, partitioned the disk with sarge d-i and now half the disk is missing. |
| 22:32.13 | sifi-x | gnube, explain |
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| 22:32.17 | gnube | sifi-x, I had Ubuntu on here, partitioned the disk with sarge d-i and now half the disk is missing. |
| 22:32.45 | gnube | sifi-x, So I have a ext2 partition with Ubuntu on it floating around some where |
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| 22:33.23 | jason__ | gnube, okay i am just completely purging and installing a fresh copy of apache2...so how do i tell apache 2 to use php4? |
| 22:33.26 | gnube | sifi-x, Wait, sorry, /dev/hda1 _is_ the old Ubuntu |
| 22:33.45 | sifi-x | gnube, hehe |
| 22:33.49 | gnube | jason__, Do you remember how you configured it when you first installed it? |
| 22:33.59 | m1ke | is there a way to get apps to open in same window every time on kde? |
| 22:34.01 | jason__ | yes |
| 22:34.07 | gnube | sifi-x, But it looks nothing like it used to, it must have been overwritten |
| 22:34.13 | jason__ | and it couldnt get it to parse php files |
| 22:34.15 | gnube | jason__, I would do it the same way. |
| 22:34.31 | jason__ | no..i couldnt get it to pasrse php files; that is why i was mesing with it |
| 22:34.38 | gnube | jason__, did you add the php modul? |
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| 22:35.03 | jason__ | gnube, okay....how do u add the php module? |
| 22:35.08 | gnube | did you reconfigure /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf ? |
| 22:35.08 | nemy | maybe the mime type is missing un your conf |
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| 22:35.18 | gnube | jason__, did you reconfigure /usr/local/apache2/conf/httpd.conf ? |
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| 22:35.35 | Tortel | jason__: libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 22:35.38 | Tortel | install that |
| 22:35.41 | sifi-x | jason__, you install it, or load it |
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| 22:36.05 | mhall | hello, all. how do i get AltGr capability on console as well as X? and to what scancode should i point my laptop's Euro sign key? |
| 22:36.12 | mhall | !tell me about altgr |
| 22:36.18 | dvm1981 | Mike: Look in the Control Center of KDE |
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| 22:36.27 | m1ke | i have...do you know its there? |
| 22:36.31 | jason__ | tortel, i installed libapache2-mod-php4, and still couldnt parse php files |
| 22:36.41 | Tortel | did you restart it? |
| 22:36.44 | jason__ | yes |
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| 22:36.59 | Tortel | :| |
| 22:37.05 | gnube | jason__, Which operating system are you using? |
| 22:37.17 | dvm1981 | Mike: Wish application you want to open in the same window ? |
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| 22:37.24 | m1ke | lets say xchat |
| 22:37.28 | m1ke | but tehre are many |
| 22:37.33 | gnube | jason__, http://www.google.se/search?q=installing+php&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official |
| 22:37.39 | m1ke | i want everything to open in the "right" window each time |
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| 22:38.14 | jason__ | gnube, debian sarge |
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| 22:39.02 | dvm1981 | Mike: Settings > Preferences Then go to 'Tab' |
| 22:39.04 | zeballin3 | I was going to do a dist-upgrade on my Sid distro and it wants to take out gnome's nautilis. What's with that???? |
| 22:39.24 | jason__ | gnube, i purged and and reinstalled apache2 and now i cannot get it to start |
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| 22:39.38 | dvm1981 | Mike: sorry...'Tabs' |
| 22:39.41 | zeballin3 | jason__: apache2ctl start |
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| 22:39.45 | m1ke | ok...whats there? |
| 22:40.05 | dvm1981 | Mike: To open a channel in a new window |
| 22:40.12 | m1ke | oh...no I want xchat to open in "Desktop #3" |
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| 22:40.15 | jason__ | okay..got it to start |
| 22:40.18 | m1ke | no window vs tab |
| 22:40.19 | m1ke | sorry. |
| 22:40.20 | valdyn | zeballin3: that is common in sid |
| 22:40.26 | valdyn | zeballin3: just dont dist-upgrade |
| 22:40.34 | zeballin3 | valdyn: yeah, tell me about it!!! |
| 22:40.35 | gnube | jason__, You have to edit the config file |
| 22:40.45 | gnube | do this; |
| 22:40.54 | gnube | dpkg -L apache2 |
| 22:40.55 | dpkg | ii apache2 1.5-4.2 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
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| 22:41.32 | zeballin3 | valdyn: I was on testing but it didn't have what I needed so I moved to sid. works great...unless you shoot yourself in the head with a dist-up!! |
| 22:41.43 | dvm1981 | Mike: If you have open the application on the 3de desktop. The new window not open in the same desktop ? |
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| 22:42.33 | m1ke | no...lets use firefox instead. log into kde...click firefox icon...i want it to launch on Desktop #3 no matter which one i am currently on |
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| 22:42.45 | dvm1981 | Mike: You're app is been running in desktop 3 ? |
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| 22:43.03 | m1ke | current app opens in which ever desktop i am currently in. |
| 22:43.05 | dvm1981 | Mike: hhhhmmm, |
| 22:43.05 | TauPan | m1ke: which windowmanager do you use? |
| 22:43.06 | jason__ | gnube, can you just tell me how to edit the apache2.conf file? |
| 22:43.12 | m1ke | TauPan: KDE? |
| 22:43.16 | gnube | jason__, Sure, |
| 22:43.18 | dvm1981 | Mike: I search a little bit ... |
| 22:43.24 | m1ke | cool...thanks |
| 22:43.32 | m1ke | i know you can do it in enlightenmen. |
| 22:43.39 | TauPan | m1ke: ok, I can't help you then, if you're using kwm |
| 22:43.48 | m1ke | was wondering if i could in kde |
| 22:43.54 | TauPan | m1ke: it's also possible in sawfish and fvwm, and probably others |
| 22:44.17 | zeballin3 | jason__: why are you editing the apache conf file? |
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| 22:45.06 | jason__ | zeballin3, so i can tell it about php4 |
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| 22:45.53 | sifi-x | jason__, use apache 1.3 instead pls |
| 22:45.58 | zeballin3 | jason__: did you install the php4 mod file? You should NOT have to edit anything in apache to get php to run. |
| 22:46.00 | jason__ | i got it to work! |
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| 22:46.22 | nuskool | is there a way to clean up old libraries that were downloaded and installed with (now removed) packages? |
| 22:46.23 | sifi-x | jason__, its not "outdated" its just another architecture |
| 22:46.29 | jason__ | it turns out that i also needed to install this apache pre-fork package |
| 22:47.02 | zeballin3 | jason__: next time install the apache meta package and it brings in all of its stuff. (pre-fork, etc.) |
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| 22:47.17 | sifi-x | jason__, the stable one that is beingused for serious webhosting |
| 22:47.44 | jason__ | zeballin3, what do you mean by meta-package? |
| 22:47.55 | zeballin3 | sifi-x: apache2 is fine for local use. But I agree with you about commercial work. |
| 22:48.14 | zeballin3 | jason__: apt-get install apache2 |
| 22:48.19 | sifi-x | zeballin3, yea, so he should get used to how to configure one |
| 22:48.42 | sifi-x | zeballin3, thats pretty more good practice in LAMP |
| 22:48.44 | zeballin3 | sifi-x: oh yes, I agree... but not the first day. |
| 22:48.47 | dvm1981 | Mike: I have search a little bit, but without a solution :-( I can not help you for |
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| 22:49.27 | zeballin3 | sifi-x: the httpd.conf file is a bit intimidating for a first-day apache runner!!!! |
| 22:49.57 | jason__ | zeballin3, lol...actually its apache2.conf |
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| 22:50.13 | micker | I'm trying to dpkg as new customer kernel, and I'm getting an error that I dont have a suitable ramdisk generation tool installed |
| 22:50.20 | fiXXXerMet | Where can I find the latest debian release? debian.org has links to sites with 3.1_r1, 3.1_r0a, etc... |
| 22:50.29 | valdyn | !installit |
| 22:50.29 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 22:50.40 | ootput | fiXXXerMet: _r1 |
| 22:50.46 | fiXXXerMet | Thank you |
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| 22:51.01 | micker | !dpkg ramdisk |
| 22:51.01 | dpkg | [ramdisk] a method of using a portion of your ram as if it were another hard drive partition. See http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html |
| 22:51.17 | streuner_ | !mhallsmite valdyn |
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| 22:51.41 | ady | how to instal KDE desktop on ubuntu? |
| 22:51.47 | zeballin3 | jason__: are you going to install mysql next? |
| 22:51.55 | micker | !dpkg ramdisk generation |
| 22:51.57 | streuner_ | ady: #ubuntu |
| 22:52.22 | jason__ | zeballin3, i already have....i just did apt-get install mysql server |
| 22:52.25 | ady | yes |
| 22:52.42 | fiXXXerMet | debian-31r1-i386-binary-1.iso and debian-31r1-i386-binary-2.iso What's different on them? |
| 22:52.47 | valdyn | michal_: try apt-get install yaird or initramfstools |
| 22:52.58 | jason__ | zeballin3, why when i do phpinfo, i dont see anything about mysql |
| 22:53.06 | dvm1981 | ady : I do not if you know 'Kubuntu' same but with KDE |
| 22:53.08 | ady | ubuntu amd64 |
| 22:53.09 | valdyn | micker: try apt-get install yaird or initramfstools |
| 22:53.20 | zeballin3 | jason__: did you install mysql? |
| 22:53.30 | sifi-x | jason__, then MySQL is not loaded in php.ini |
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| 22:53.41 | micker | valdyn - installing yaird right now, thanks |
| 22:53.45 | jason__ | zeballin3, i already have....i just did apt-get install mysql server,but that was before i purged and reinstalled apache2 |
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| 22:53.57 | ady | ftp adress? |
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| 22:54.04 | zeballin3 | jason__: isn't there a meta package for mysql.... called mysql? |
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| 22:54.16 | zeballin3 | You also need php-mysql or something like that. |
| 22:54.24 | streuner_ | ady: install debian |
| 22:54.37 | streuner_ | ady: and use KDE in debian :-) |
| 22:54.37 | sifi-x | php[45]-mysql |
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| 22:54.50 | ady | kubuntu is good? |
| 22:55.02 | _keroppi_ | What's a good way to install Thunderbird 1.5 in Debian, since it's not in unstable yet...? |
| 22:55.04 | streuner_ | ady: debia is good |
| 22:55.04 | dvm1981 | ady : Is debian based |
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| 22:55.09 | streuner_ | ady: debian is good |
| 22:55.10 | dvm1981 | ady : Is debian based |
| 22:55.11 | zeballin3 | sifi-x: the damn apache2 conf is 10 times harder than the old 1.xx. PITA. |
| 22:55.17 | jason__ | zeballin3, i already did installed the php-mysql package..maybe i need to install it again |
| 22:55.20 | dvm1981 | ady : same case for ubuntu |
| 22:55.36 | sifi-x | zeballin3, hehe, well its based on a new arch for apache so |
| 22:55.39 | streuner_ | dvm1981: crap |
| 22:55.46 | dvm1981 | ady : Perso, The best ! |
| 22:55.46 | SerajewelKS | jason__: what is the problem |
| 22:55.49 | zeballin3 | jason__: you also need mysql-client and a bunch of other stuff. Go and install the meta package. |
| 22:55.51 | streuner_ | ubuntu is the shit |
| 22:55.54 | sifi-x | zeballin3, and we all waits for 2.1 |
| 22:56.30 | dvm1981 | streuner_: Why ? |
| 22:56.34 | thingfish | streuner_: s/the// |
| 22:56.42 | streuner_ | because :-) |
| 22:56.45 | micker | ok, that didnt work at all liked I hoped it too... my screen didnt like the console settings the new kernel passed... can that be adjusted in GRUB or must I recompile? |
| 22:56.52 | zeballin3 | jason__: sorry I guess there IS no meta for msql. sorry. |
| 22:56.54 | dvm1981 | ady : Perso, The best ! ==>> Debian |
| 22:57.01 | bonden | what can the be case when I can't boot my newly compiled pkg kernel? since it seem to be a display and that I've know that the problems doesn't is in grubs menu.lst file - what the heck can it be, and how could I get it fixed? |
| 22:57.03 | m1ke | foobillard is the sh* |
| 22:57.05 | dvm1981 | streuner_: Perso, The best ! ==>> Debian |
| 22:57.32 | bonden | micker: you seem to have the same problem as me. |
| 22:57.32 | SerajewelKS | jason__: are you trying to set up apache+mysql+php? |
| 22:57.34 | sifi-x | zeballin3, it goes really quick to config apache with perl at least |
| 22:57.35 | sifi-x | =) |
| 22:57.37 | jason__ | yes |
| 22:57.40 | djp | i am using abiword, however the spell checking does not appear to be working. do i have to install another packages to use this feature? abiword was installed by default with my debian 3.1 desktop install. |
| 22:57.44 | SerajewelKS | jason__: apache 1 or 2 |
| 22:57.48 | zeballin3 | jason__: if you installed mysql-server you should have gotten it all... except the php(4.5)-mysql pkg. |
| 22:57.49 | jason__ | apache2 |
| 22:57.59 | sohmestra | \l |
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| 22:58.17 | SerajewelKS | jason__: apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4 |
| 22:58.19 | zeballin3 | sifi-x: that's only because you know WTF you are doing!!!! The rest of us see it as jibberish!! |
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| 22:58.52 | SerajewelKS | jason__: if you need a server too (e.g. no external server you'll be using), apt-get install mysql-server-4.1 |
| 22:59.08 | sifi-x | zeballin3, lol |
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| 22:59.47 | zeballin3 | SerajewelKS: in SID that's: mysql-server-4.1 - empty transitional package [from apt-cache search mysql] |
| 23:00.18 | zeballin3 | SerajewelKS: I could be wrong but I think you can ONLY install 5.0 these days from sid. |
| 23:00.21 | SerajewelKS | zeballin3: if jason__ is using sid for a server then getting a mysql server running isn't his problem |
| 23:00.41 | fiXXXerMet | I am at the gentoo.org site, and I'm about to start downloading. Why are the CDs only ~700MB, when other distros are up to 4GB? |
| 23:01.01 | Shadowcat | fiXXXerMet: shouldn't you be asking in #gentoo? |
| 23:01.03 | zeballin3 | Is it 'safe' to upgrade to kde 3.5 yet? |
| 23:01.05 | SerajewelKS | fiXXXerMet: first explain why you are asking #debian |
| 23:01.06 | jason__ | i am using sarge |
| 23:01.08 | fiXXXerMet | Ah wrong tab :) |
| 23:01.13 | SerajewelKS | jason__: good |
| 23:01.21 | micker | this is going to seem like a really stupid question, but when using bootable cd's I can use a knoppix cheat code command like 'linux vga=791', now that I have an installed system, how do I do that? |
| 23:01.23 | phogg | zeballin3: I doubt it. |
| 23:01.31 | jason__ | its just weird that my mysql has disappeared |
| 23:01.32 | Shadowcat | !tell fiXXXerMet about ihtays |
| 23:01.42 | phogg | micker: grub or lilo? For lilo it should be the same |
| 23:01.42 | Tortel | p <=-Someone say that caitilized lease |
| 23:01.47 | SerajewelKS | jason__: it hasn't... |
| 23:01.49 | micker | phogg - grub |
| 23:01.59 | zeballin3 | phogg: has there been chatter on this board about problems? |
| 23:02.03 | Shadowcat | !tell fiXXXerMet about iyhtays |
| 23:02.05 | djp | can anyone tell me how to get the spell checker to work with abiword under debian? |
| 23:02.08 | Shadowcat | there |
| 23:02.11 | SerajewelKS | Tortel: P |
| 23:02.14 | Tortel | ty |
| 23:02.16 | phogg | micker: edit your menu.lst, or after highlighting the kernel you wnat to boot hit e to make some edits |
| 23:02.18 | Shadowcat | blegh |
| 23:02.20 | Shadowcat | wrong guy |
| 23:02.22 | bonden | micker: vi /boot/grub/menu.lst |
| 23:02.23 | sifi-x | fiXXXerMet, why is the debian CD image only 700MB when there is an DVD image that is 4GB? lol |
| 23:02.29 | phogg | zeballin3: you lose |
| 23:02.32 | jason__ | it isn't listed when i go phpinfo |
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| 23:02.32 | SerajewelKS | Tortel: any other letters you need, i'm your man ;) |
| 23:02.38 | micker | bonden - phogg - thanks! |
| 23:02.39 | zeballin3 | djp: what spell checker does it use.... myspell, aspell, ispell? |
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| 23:02.45 | doublehp_ | how can I configure the arrays of a MYlex DAC960DPU-3 ? even MS-DOS utilise does not work ... |
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| 23:02.53 | SerajewelKS | jason__: did you install libapache2-mod-php4? |
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| 23:02.57 | Daedalus_ | zeballin3: Uh... problems? This is the debian general help channel.... |
| 23:02.59 | ryushe | Hi there, trying to restart amavis (/etc/init.d/amavis restart) on a working machine after upgrade, get a message about the value of $myhostname not being correct, altho in config it's set to FQDN. Suggested is to fix what uname(3) provides. How would I go about changing what uname(3) outputs? |
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| 23:03.02 | jason__ | yes |
| 23:03.06 | SerajewelKS | jason__: and restart apache? |
| 23:03.10 | jason__ | yes |
| 23:03.23 | SerajewelKS | jason__: grep mysql /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini |
| 23:03.26 | sifi-x | jason__, WYP |
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| 23:03.34 | zeballin3 | Daedalus_: yeah, and does kde run under debian... like apache and php etc.? |
| 23:03.39 | SerajewelKS | jason__: and look for extension=mysql.so |
| 23:03.48 | Daedalus_ | zeballin3: yes, yes, and yes |
| 23:03.50 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: the dac960 has a bios configuration utility |
| 23:03.55 | SerajewelKS | jason__: if you don't see that, or there's a # before it, then add it or remove the # |
| 23:03.55 | phogg | ryushe: doesn't uname use hostname? |
| 23:04.08 | doublehp_ | ryushe: myhostname is derivated from /etc/hostname. uname values are hardcoded in your kernel (2.6 allow to alter them the way you want ) |
| 23:04.08 | djp | zeballin3, either aspell or ispell |
| 23:04.25 | zeballin3 | djp: have you installed either one of them? |
| 23:04.34 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: neither M-M not M-R could allow me to change them (at least not on x86 nor Alpha ) |
| 23:04.47 | micker | bonden - where in menu.lst would I put that, I dont see any comments that would seem to indicate the proper placement |
| 23:04.51 | ryushe | so the hostname should always be the FQDN then? |
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| 23:04.54 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: even using the built in bios utility? |
| 23:05.07 | jason__ | got it...and let me guess.you want me to remove the semicolons... |
| 23:05.12 | bonden | micker: at vga= , just do a search |
| 23:05.28 | zeballin3 | djp: dpkg -l aspell to see if you have it. |
| 23:05.31 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: I just said that I cant access it ! I have message coming on screen, but acting on kbd is pain in *** |
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| 23:05.32 | SerajewelKS | jason__: if the semicolons are before extension=mysql.so then yes |
| 23:05.36 | djp | zeballin3, no. so that is all that i need to do? thanks zeballin3. which would you recommend? |
| 23:05.43 | SerajewelKS | jason__: hang on a sec |
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| 23:05.57 | jason__ | ok |
| 23:05.58 | SerajewelKS | jason__: i have two lines, one at the top of the file with a semicolon, and one at the bottom without a semicolon |
| 23:06.12 | SerajewelKS | jason__: grep extension=mysql /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini |
| 23:06.16 | TriKster-Abacus | anyone have issues with cedega (latest) and trying to "Check for updates" not working/locking up Cedega? |
| 23:06.18 | jason__ | i have just one at the top |
| 23:06.20 | purpleheart_USMC | Does debian support wireless internet out of the box? |
| 23:06.24 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: maybe my AMD 1.4G is too recent for that card ? |
| 23:06.32 | SerajewelKS | jason__: then remove the semocolon or 'echo extension=mysql.so >> /etc/php4/apache2/php.ini' |
| 23:06.34 | TriKster-Abacus | I know this isn't #cedega, but this only happens with Debian |
| 23:06.36 | SerajewelKS | jason__: then restart apache |
| 23:06.43 | ryushe | phogg doublehp_ > so by changing the contents of /etc/hostname I can change uname(3) output? |
| 23:06.45 | SerajewelKS | semicolon too |
| 23:06.55 | zeballin3 | djp: first of all find out if you have either of those spellers. If not apt-get install on of them. I have ispell as it is the default for kde. |
| 23:07.02 | doublehp_ | ryushe: I have said you NO already ! |
| 23:07.26 | SerajewelKS | TriKster-Abacus: when does it lock |
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| 23:07.38 | ryushe | doublehp_ > excuse me, I thought you mentioned something about kernel 2.6 being able to do it? |
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| 23:07.44 | TriKster-Abacus | when you are in the Gui and click on Transgaming > Check for Updates |
| 23:08.09 | doublehp_ | ryushe: yes: kernel is not hostname !!! because /etc is not /usr/src |
| 23:08.10 | SerajewelKS | TriKster-Abacus: it pauses for a few seconds, but then shows available updates for me |
| 23:08.14 | TriKster-Abacus | k |
| 23:08.20 | TriKster-Abacus | mine has been sitting for a few minutes |
| 23:08.33 | SerajewelKS | TriKster-Abacus: have many times have you tried? |
| 23:08.38 | micker | ok, I added that to grub, but the screen still goes wacky at the line that reads switching to color framebuffer device 80x30 |
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| 23:08.42 | TriKster-Abacus | I wonder if I am missing something, I checked the deps for the packages before I installed them |
| 23:08.43 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: seems like you had DAC906 ... what CPU were you running ? |
| 23:08.49 | TriKster-Abacus | SerajewelKS, like 3 times |
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| 23:09.00 | SerajewelKS | TriKster-Abacus: hmm.. could always fire up ethereal and see if anything is happening |
| 23:09.01 | TriKster-Abacus | each time I have to kill off python/cedega and restart it |
| 23:09.05 | TriKster-Abacus | k |
| 23:09.14 | TriKster-Abacus | netstat says defunct in ps aux also.. |
| 23:09.21 | metho | what is the command to install nfs server |
| 23:09.30 | SerajewelKS | metho: which nfs server |
| 23:09.34 | ryushe | well, this sucks then, I'm unable to restart amavisd-new due to uname outputting a non-valid fqdn, even tho the $myhostname variable in /etc/amavis/amavisd.conf is set to a correct FQDN :( |
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| 23:09.42 | metho | network file server |
| 23:09.43 | jason__ | got it! yes it worked |
| 23:09.53 | SerajewelKS | metho: that's like asking "how do i install http server" |
| 23:09.53 | zeballin3 | jason__: what worked? |
| 23:10.03 | metho | hang on |
| 23:10.06 | m1ke | nfs-kernel-server? |
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| 23:10.20 | SerajewelKS | metho: and, in general, apt-cache search nfs server |
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| 23:10.24 | Tomze | evening... im normally useing KDE bur now i need to set up a network printer in gnome... what tools would you guys recommend ? |
| 23:10.33 | Tomze | im lost |
| 23:10.46 | m1ke | i think cups has a web page to it |
| 23:11.07 | ryushe | Tomze > apt-get install gnome-cups-manager |
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| 23:11.10 | metho | i think i installed it earlier on but i forget what was the command i used, it was something like this apt-get install nfs-usr-? |
| 23:11.12 | m1ke | oh...what kind of printer?network? |
| 23:11.28 | SerajewelKS | metho: apt-cache search nfs server |
| 23:11.32 | SerajewelKS | metho: then pick one |
| 23:11.33 | m1ke | metho: i think its apt-get install nfs-kernel-server |
| 23:11.34 | jason__ | zeballin3, i had to enable something in php.ini to enable mysql in phpinfo |
| 23:11.34 | zeballin3 | Tomze: localhost:631 won't work for you? |
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| 23:11.43 | Tomze | mike, normal lan.. and the printer is an another machine |
| 23:11.51 | metho | cheers |
| 23:12.02 | m1ke | tomze: has its own IP or network share? |
| 23:12.06 | zeballin3 | jason__: hmmm. well you are running sarge and I run sid so there could be lots of differences. |
| 23:12.07 | dsl | hey all, i am curious, anyone know the command to enable DMA on my cdrom? |
| 23:12.12 | Tomze | mike, yes |
| 23:12.21 | Tomze | mike, ehhmm both i guess |
| 23:12.22 | jason__ | zeballin3, true |
| 23:12.31 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: could be; I was using it on a PIII xeon; so totally different machine. |
| 23:12.40 | m1ke | cant be both...does printer have network cable on it, or usb/parellel cable? |
| 23:12.43 | zeballin3 | jason__: next you will probably want phpmyadmin ??? |
| 23:12.56 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: all of the dac960s I've ever used have had working interfaces that you trigger when the machine is going through POST. |
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| 23:13.06 | Tomze | mike, it attached to another *nix machine |
| 23:13.21 | metho | i found it cheers Serajewalks: it was apt-get install nfs-user-server |
| 23:13.36 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: if for some reason you can't trigger it in the bios, then I'd suggest that the card isn't compatible or something else is screwy. |
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| 23:13.54 | ijaehe | how do I find for brokenlinks? |
| 23:13.58 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: 2H I am screwed |
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| 23:14.22 | grumpydog | dondelelcaro, hiya buddy :) |
| 23:14.31 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: so return the card or something... |
| 23:14.33 | metho | how do i deleted unwanted programs and file |
| 23:14.35 | Hamled|Erp| | if I use the courier MTA, I don't need to use exim right? |
| 23:14.56 | Tomze | mike, any ideas ? gnome-cups-manager says "cant connect to cupsys" or something |
| 23:15.09 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: 2nd hand ... was configured on Alpha systems ... and cant find Linux softwares to set it up ... |
| 23:15.25 | micker | hmm... even when I change the console at boot time, while booting with the new kernel, I'm getting a line 'console: switching to colour frambuffer 80x30" and then the screen flashes... how can I get it to not do that? |
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| 23:15.42 | dondelelcaro | doublehp_: uh... are you sure it's even compatible with i386? it could have an alpha specific bios. |
| 23:15.44 | m1ke | tomze: haven't done it much...do you have CUPS installed? |
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| 23:16.05 | dondelelcaro | the cpu calls between the two are *totally* distinct |
| 23:16.14 | Tomze | mike, on the printserver machine yes.. i need it locally also ? |
| 23:16.26 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: the card prompts to presse ALT-M ... what has no effect (tried FR and US layouts for 'M' ) |
| 23:16.30 | m1ke | i believe so |
| 23:16.39 | m1ke | each machine is a client and a server(i think) |
| 23:16.50 | m1ke | but don't listen to me...i haven't done it enough |
| 23:16.52 | doublehp_ | dondelelcaro: and I cant find any thing about DAC960 on Alpha |
| 23:17.01 | m1ke | i hate helping people down the wrong path! |
| 23:17.05 | Tomze | mike, i will try.. thanks |
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| 23:17.38 | Tomze | mike, its no problem... purge and sysv-rc-conf will fix everything |
| 23:18.04 | micker | doublehp_ - just reading backwards... It's a mylex raid controller on an alpha? |
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| 23:18.47 | doublehp_ | micker: mylex controller, found in Alpha box (and will return there next week) ... and I need at ANY PRICE to DEconfigure RAID Arrays |
| 23:19.19 | micker | ok, I'm a linux noob for sure, but I used to admin a decnet cluster.. lemme see if I still have my mylex docs... |
| 23:19.26 | doublehp_ | micker: I even found a MS-DOS floppy set , as a try ... (and yes removed config.sys and so ) |
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| 23:20.33 | verxion | hello everyone! :) |
| 23:20.51 | verxion | hey, can anyone tell me how to use dd to copy JUST the MBR from one hard disk to another? |
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| 23:22.02 | Daedalus_ | verxion: I can't remember offhand, but I know google has the answer. |
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| 23:22.17 | FromTO | when I increase the screen resolution in gnome beyond 1024x768 it splits the screen. It seems like the screen is replicating itself on the edges. any suggestions |
| 23:22.28 | mhall | wrt to that 'there is no spoon' quit message, where did that come from originally |
| 23:22.42 | Daedalus_ | verxion: it's the same thing you would do if you installed windows on a secondary partition and you wanted to restor your linux bootloader |
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| 23:23.55 | gbkyle | anybody have any idea why my monitor would go dim/unreadable immediately when loading X windows (nvidia drivers) |
| 23:24.03 | verxion | Daedalus_: hrm |
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| 23:25.32 | eeyore- | gbkyle: are you also getting ghost images and flickering dots on the LcD? |
| 23:25.43 | gbkyle | uhm dont think so |
| 23:26.01 | verxion | ok, what about copying my / mount point to another drive? I know if I don't do something special, I will get problems from things like /dev/zero etc. |
| 23:26.01 | gbkyle | i loaded X, killed it, and im in console and the monitor is still dim/blurry |
| 23:26.21 | eeyore- | gbkyle: because if that's so, then the panel is probably not very happy with the way it's being driven :-) and it's a good time to reconfigure the driver to prevent panel damage. of course if this is a CRT ... |
| 23:26.32 | gbkyle | no, its a LCD |
| 23:26.45 | frbn | hi all |
| 23:26.47 | dli_ | gbkyle: that's quite normal for nvidia |
| 23:26.52 | gbkyle | :| |
| 23:27.01 | gbkyle | So im screwed? ;) |
| 23:27.28 | dli_ | gbkyle: try "nv" first, maybe it can drive up and fix your display |
| 23:27.32 | sifi-x | gbkyle, no, you just have to configure it properly |
| 23:27.53 | dli_ | gbkyle: otherwise, try to configure it via network |
| 23:27.58 | gbkyle | ive tried lots of different configs, really hasnt gotten me anywhere |
| 23:28.09 | gbkyle | i'll try nv |
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| 23:28.14 | sifi-x | gbkyle, I dunno how so... |
| 23:28.42 | sifi-x | gbkyle, have you installed the nvidia drivers? |
| 23:29.00 | dli_ | gbkyle: don't worry, you will soon become a nvidia driver expert |
| 23:29.10 | gbkyle | sifi-x: yes |
| 23:29.11 | _keroppi_ | How could I get Thunderbird 1.5 for debian? |
| 23:29.20 | sifi-x | dli_, hehe |
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| 23:29.58 | sifi-x | gbkyle, yea, keep going, then you can make us a Nvidia+LCD howto |
| 23:30.02 | gbkyle | :| |
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| 23:30.11 | dli_ | sifi-x: the best thing is to avoid nvidia or ati at all |
| 23:30.12 | gbkyle | I posted my xorg.conf on debian's forums |
| 23:30.15 | bsims | Hrm kmail (on Debian Sid) now shows a progress bar on moving messages... is there a way to disable that so that acts like it did before? |
| 23:30.21 | gbkyle | would anyone like to see ;X |
| 23:30.23 | bsims | Also Filter Mark as Ham lost its icon, how do I set that manually I tried changing iconsets and that did not work either |
| 23:30.34 | sifi-x | dli_, and use what? |
| 23:30.40 | jason__ | SerajewelKS, does the mysqli extension work in php4? |
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| 23:30.50 | dli_ | sifi-x: like intel, driver in xorg |
| 23:30.51 | sifi-x | dli_, non third party chipsets |
| 23:31.04 | SerajewelKS | jason__: what is mysqli |
| 23:31.30 | sifi-x | Sememmon, an module to use more functions in MySQL AFAIK |
| 23:31.30 | jason__ | it is the newest way to connect..instead of connectdb..it is mysqli connect |
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| 23:31.46 | jason__ | u use it to connect to a mysql database in php |
| 23:31.47 | BTadmin- | is there anyway if i use the dir() class, can I use $d->read() and have that display alphabetically |
| 23:31.58 | dli_ | gbkyle: did you try "X -configure" ? |
| 23:32.23 | frbn | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:32.53 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, nothing you really need |
| 23:33.22 | gbkyle | "Missing output drivers. Configuration failed" ;\ |
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| 23:33.50 | Wharf2 | Hi there. |
| 23:34.00 | zeballin3 | jason__: are you writing a script in php? |
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| 23:34.06 | dli_ | gbkyle: you didn't install nvidia driver correctly |
| 23:34.13 | benjamindees | !greet Wharf2 |
| 23:34.13 | dpkg | Nihao, Wharf2 |
| 23:34.21 | gbkyle | I dont see what could have gone wrong |
| 23:34.26 | gbkyle | i did the nvidia one-liner thingy |
| 23:34.31 | gbkyle | went through the configuration of it |
| 23:34.32 | gbkyle | etc |
| 23:34.42 | jason__ | yes, and i just wondering if the mysqli_connect calling worked in php4 |
| 23:34.47 | Wharf2 | I wanted to install a modem on my debian machine |
| 23:34.51 | Wharf2 | I have it installed |
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| 23:34.56 | Wharf2 | Never dials correctly though |
| 23:34.56 | gbkyle | lsmod has nvidia loaded and agpgart is using it |
| 23:34.57 | Wharf2 | :( |
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| 23:35.16 | zeballin3 | I always advise people to use the ADODB abstraction layer: http://adodb.sourceforge.net/ Might save you lots of time and effort. |
| 23:35.19 | dli_ | gbkyle: try "rmmod nvidia && modprobe nvidia" |
| 23:35.28 | gbkyle | dli_: startx? |
| 23:35.58 | bpuzon | Hello.. What to do not to allow :(){:|:&};: to crash the system? |
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| 23:36.11 | zeballin3 | jason__: if you ever drop mysql for some other database (oracle, postgre, etc.) you will only have to change one line in a config file if using ADODB. Check it out. |
| 23:36.23 | gbkyle | dli_: it just outputted |
| 23:36.23 | gbkyle | ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:00.0[A] -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 185 |
| 23:36.23 | gbkyle | NVRM: loading NVIDIA Linux x86 NVIDIA Kernel Module 1.0-7174 Tue Mar 22 06:44:39 PST 2005 |
| 23:36.31 | jason__ | zeballin3, okay i will..it looks interesting |
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| 23:37.10 | frbn | I've got a kernel panic : no init found during the boot of a woody-minicd. any hints for what to put in kernel opts (init=) |
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| 23:38.03 | dli_ | frbn: try root= , if you have a root partition |
| 23:38.04 | levander | Is there a command line command I can run to see if there are updates for my system? Maybe it is 'apt-get --simulate update', but that seems to take a little long. |
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| 23:38.28 | zeballin3 | levander: why not use synaptic for this? |
| 23:38.39 | bpuzon | Hello.. What to do not to allow :(){:|:&};: to crash the system? |
| 23:38.49 | dli_ | bpuzon: what do you mean? |
| 23:38.58 | joesbox | real quick quiestion. the menu files located in /usr/lib/menu.... are all of the keys supposed to have quitations around the values according to the Debian standard? |
| 23:39.09 | levander | zeballin3: cause it takes time to start up synaptic. My system's slow and application load time's the bitch. Plus, I like the command line. |
| 23:39.10 | djp | zeballin3, thanks for the help. aspell is now installed and abiword has a spell checker! |
| 23:39.35 | zeballin3 | djp: why aspell and not ispell. Just curious. |
| 23:40.01 | zeballin3 | djp: do you run kde or gnome? |
| 23:40.11 | djp | zeballin3, http://packages.debian.org/stable/text/aspell |
| 23:40.17 | dli_ | levander: apt-get update;apt-get -s dist-upgrade |
| 23:40.23 | bpuzon | dli_ A function that calls itself into foreground, func() { func | func & }; when you call it (func) it will crash the system in seconds |
| 23:40.25 | djp | zeballin3, ah, yes... i run gnome |
| 23:40.30 | levander | Nobody knows a quicker way than 'apt-get --simulate update'? |
| 23:40.45 | bpuzon | bpuzon My debian laptop went mad after 5 seconds |
| 23:40.49 | zeballin3 | djp: will abiword read/write Word .doc files? Will it create PDF files? |
| 23:40.52 | frbn | dli_, I did it, my cdrom is hda I told to milo that root=/dev/hda load_ramdisk=1 and specified-t iso9660. it loads !boot!linux but can't open an initial console neither init. I don't know to give him, this mini-cd doesn't have any "init" |
| 23:41.11 | levander | Actually, what I want would be a quicker way to do 'apt-get --simulate upgrade'? |
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| 23:41.26 | bpuzon | dli_ My debian laptop went mad after 5 seconds, and I wasn't logged as root |
| 23:41.52 | frbn | bpuzon, seen ulimit ? |
| 23:41.53 | xchg | dvm1981: any success ? |
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| 23:41.56 | zeballin3 | levander: I'm sure there is an apt-cache command or option for this. check man apt-cache. |
| 23:42.02 | bpuzon | frbn nope... |
| 23:42.06 | bpuzon | frbn I will |
| 23:42.08 | djp | zeballin3, it can create rather crude word docs, yes and can read them. not sure with regards pdf |
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| 23:42.36 | zeballin3 | djp: I use OOO2 and have been happy with it. Beats hell out of MS World. |
| 23:42.39 | xchg | frbn: any sucess with alpha ? |
| 23:42.48 | dli_ | bpuzon: there's a resource limit settting file |
| 23:42.59 | frbn | xchg, no. stuck. badly rebooting for a day :\ |
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| 23:43.11 | zeballin3 | levander: I hear good things from koffice as well but never tried it. |
| 23:43.23 | bpuzon | frbn Which resource should be limited to prevent that kind of attacks? |
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| 23:43.42 | xchg | frbn: url i gave ? |
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| 23:44.20 | djp | zeballin3, yeah, openoffice is installed here as well. like it a lot. just giving abiword a go for the first time. |
| 23:44.45 | zeballin3 | djp: I didn't know that abi was still being developed. |
| 23:44.46 | frbn | xchg, I reinstall dpkg-debs -x libc6 and got the system ok until I tried to use apt-get. I then got an ld ERROR, I tried ldconfig -v and then got back to "kernel too old". |
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| 23:45.07 | dli_ | bpuzon: /etc/limits |
| 23:45.31 | xchg | frbn: too new libc |
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| 23:45.54 | xchg | xchg: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; apt-get dist-upgrade maybe ? |
| 23:46.01 | xchg | erm |
| 23:46.04 | xchg | e.g. frbn \ |
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| 23:46.08 | SmartUnix | hi |
| 23:46.27 | xchg | hi |
| 23:46.32 | djp | zeballin3, thanks for the help. got to run now. |
| 23:47.18 | SmartUnix | i have problem with connect to internet when i use GNOME-PPP |
| 23:47.21 | SmartUnix | any help ? |
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| 23:47.53 | frbn | xchg, sure, I still have a too new libc6 lying around. and ldconfig sees it. (and not my old one). Will try to erase /lib and get it back from a backup. |
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| 23:48.19 | dli_ | bpuzon: /etc/security/limits.conf |
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| 23:48.23 | newjunk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:48.52 | SmartUnix | where i can paste the log? |
| 23:48.54 | dli_ | newjunk: a spyware? |
| 23:49.00 | Tortel | how can I get an aPt key for a source? |
| 23:49.02 | dli_ | SmartUnix: pastebin.com |
| 23:49.17 | thedcm | SmartUnix: doesnt sound very smart |
| 23:49.18 | thedcm | LOL |
| 23:49.23 | dli_ | Tortel: /msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 23:49.41 | xchg | frbn: never do it ! |
| 23:49.45 | frbn | why ? |
| 23:49.50 | newjunk | dli_ no. like record there self playing a game or making a doctumentry or something |
| 23:50.01 | xchg | xchg: you'll have debconf error |
| 23:50.01 | Tortel | dli_: for another source> |
| 23:50.11 | xchg | xchg: apt-get upgrade rather |
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| 23:50.20 | frbn | apt-get is broken |
| 23:50.25 | frbn | uses libc6 |
| 23:50.39 | Tortel | find it and download the .deb |
| 23:51.04 | SmartUnix | http://pastebin.com/503250 this is problem which show for me |
| 23:51.15 | bpuzon | dli_ Last quetion - is there any documentation that states which limits are "reasonable" (not to strict, not to ... emm... opposite to scrict) |
| 23:51.22 | xchg | frbn: hm, who the hell was that installed you this debian ??? |
| 23:51.24 | Tortel | ahh, ok |
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| 23:51.47 | vulture | bpuzon: _too_ strict or too lax, perhaps. |
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| 23:51.58 | dli_ | bpuzon: read the gentoo security handbook, it explains everything including limits |
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| 23:52.16 | wwallace | hello to all |
| 23:52.31 | stew | !d-i frbn |
| 23:52.31 | dpkg | frbn, you want to go to http://www.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ - for your own good, and everyone else's. |
| 23:52.32 | xchg | hi |
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| 23:52.45 | frbn | xchg, hmmm... I broke it :\ , I tried to slink-> sarge without potato-woody :] |
| 23:52.52 | lancelott | HELLO thedcm ! |
| 23:53.02 | thedcm | HELLO lancelott ! |
| 23:53.06 | xchg | frbn: anyway slink-sarge IS possible |
| 23:53.08 | thedcm | how rare ju 2day |
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| 23:53.11 | lancelott | HELLO #debian users! |
| 23:53.19 | wwallace | i have lost my x, trying to start x i get an error, "cannot find a replacement memory range" how can i fix this? |
| 23:53.20 | frbn | xchg, really ?! |
| 23:53.23 | xchg | frbn: but there're many not trivial solutions |
| 23:53.32 | thedcm | wwallace: try `startx`, you fucking retard |
| 23:53.35 | frbn | xchg, libc6 is the major |
| 23:53.39 | frbn | i guess |
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| 23:53.45 | stew | thedcm: that is uncalled for |
| 23:53.48 | xchg | frbn: one of them - you must replace /sbin/ldconfig with the bulk sh script |
| 23:53.48 | lancelott | xd |
| 23:53.49 | Daedalus_ | thedcm: cool it |
| 23:53.54 | thedcm | I'm sorry guys |
| 23:53.55 | bpuzon | vulture exactly, thx |
| 23:53.57 | wwallace | thedcm: thats where i get the error after i do startx |
| 23:54.00 | lancelott | stew: don't be intolerant of vulgar language |
| 23:54.05 | lancelott | please |
| 23:54.06 | thedcm | I've just been on edge today, my dad died |
| 23:54.15 | lancelott | thedcm: that is unfortunate :( |
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| 23:54.20 | golly | got a query about vsftpd. I can't login using a browser, but it works fine with a FTP client. |
| 23:54.20 | wwallace | sorry about your dad thedcm |
| 23:54.22 | Fox_1_ | hi all |
| 23:54.27 | thedcm | my father was brutally murdered and raped by a gang of gay niggers |
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| 23:54.33 | lancelott | oh my |
| 23:54.34 | xchg | frbn: hm...interesting... please remove /sbin/ldconfig |
| 23:54.38 | golly | how do I make vsftpd work with a broswer? |
| 23:54.39 | stew | !ops thedcm is trolling |
| 23:54.39 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: thedcm is trolling |
| 23:54.41 | thedcm | they had drilled holes in him |
| 23:54.43 | thedcm | :( |
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| 23:54.48 | wwallace | any help for my situation? |
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| 23:55.01 | frbn | xchg, are u joking ?! |
| 23:55.04 | xchg | frbn: then do echo exit > /sbin/ldconfig; chmod +x /sbin/ldconfig |
| 23:55.25 | xchg | frbn: no, i'm serious, 'coz doing it several times a day |
| 23:55.45 | Fox_1_ | i'm installing bootsplash in my debian system. after installing am i change something in /boot/grub/menu.lst??? |
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| 23:55.59 | frbn | ok I try this. |
| 23:56.10 | xchg | frbn: it's not debian-way, it's rather a nerd's-way, but at least it's working |
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| 23:56.29 | Tortel | ok, how can I get an apt key for a source that isnt an official debian? |
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| 23:57.05 | Fox_1_ | installer say what to change when use lilo, but for grub nothing. |
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| 23:57.09 | JetFan741 | hi all new to debian trying to get up to speed can someone point me in the direction of a good tutorial |
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| 23:57.37 | xchg | frbn: hm, let me guess...we can upgrade you unworking slink to working unstable right now |
| 23:57.50 | frbn | xchg, ? |
| 23:57.57 | frbn | how |
| 23:58.03 | xchg | frbn: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 23:58.10 | Phated | slink... to... sid? :O |
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| 23:58.24 | xchg | frbn: do you have such file ? (i don't remeber to slink) |
| 23:58.29 | frbn | xchg, don't forget that apt-get is broken |
| 23:58.36 | stew | xchg: why bother with sources.list if his apt-get doesn't work |
| 23:58.38 | frbn | I have a sources.list |
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| 23:59.10 | xchg | frbn & stew : let's get a proper libc by hand and export the proper LD path |
| 23:59.20 | frbn | I know install with wget and dpkg-debs -x :\ |
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| 23:59.29 | stew | how about he just uses a sarge installer |
| 23:59.49 | wwallace | i have lost my x, trying to start x i get an error, "cannot find a replacement memory range" how can i fix this? |
