| 00:00.06 | aTypical | abrotman, but testing is relatively safe? |
| 00:00.11 | starfishy | yes |
| 00:00.12 | KerPlunk | aTypical: yes |
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| 00:00.19 | jade | abrotman, ah well, missed your last message i think |
| 00:00.24 | abrotman | aTypical: for most stuff |
| 00:00.26 | KerPlunk | aTypical: it won't be that long for testing to get the new gnome |
| 00:00.27 | jade | -D |
| 00:00.29 | abrotman | jade: did you find a solution ? |
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| 00:00.31 | starfishy | abrotman: i noticed the same thing yesterday |
| 00:00.53 | starfishy | but thats ok, the number of missing dependencies is shrinking :) |
| 00:00.56 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me with my tvcard? |
| 00:00.59 | aTypical | Thank you all. |
| 00:01.08 | KerPlunk | aTypical: testing has gnome 2.10.2.5 currently. |
| 00:01.08 | abrotman | yeah .. gnome2.12 looks like it's gonna take a while |
| 00:01.10 | jade | abrotman, i have several leads thanks to all the comments, but i have not solidifed on any particular combo of hardware/sw |
| 00:01.16 | pumpkin0 | sjaakz0r: which chipset ? |
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| 00:01.24 | abrotman | jade: what you're asking to do .. should be planned |
| 00:01.28 | sjaakz0r | 500 hauppauge |
| 00:01.33 | randomity | does etch have (m)any broken dependencies? |
| 00:01.33 | dvm1981 | I test actually 'testing' is really nice ;-) |
| 00:02.00 | KerPlunk | lol, a handful of people were getting spoonfed by stew but he left now and they are hanging out to dry. |
| 00:02.12 | ice_1963 | 2.12 is the new gnome right ?? |
| 00:02.18 | abrotman | KerPlunk: that's why i showed up :) |
| 00:02.23 | blondie | o.o |
| 00:02.24 | jade | abrotman, true true. the question is not at all easy. the application is to build a shopping search engine for over 10M sites. |
| 00:02.25 | abrotman | ice_1963: 2.12.3 i thnik .. maybe .2 |
| 00:02.31 | abrotman | blondie: you're here too! |
| 00:02.33 | ice_1963 | ok |
| 00:02.37 | blondie | yes! |
| 00:02.41 | abrotman | jade: is that all? |
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| 00:03.04 | abrotman | jade: please tell me you're going to use something other than MySQL :) |
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| 00:04.31 | jade | abrotman, i haven't written all of the software yet, will involve crawlers, and large amounts of storage space. i needed to figure out how to do the software and hardware architecture so that between the cralwers, indexers, and search requests a massive bottle neck is eschewed |
| 00:04.50 | abrotman | jade: but i assume you'll use a DB backend ? |
| 00:05.36 | jade | bottle neck for harddrive write, seek access. the mysql is used to help organize the information via URL keys, but the actual indexing would not be in mysql |
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| 00:06.10 | abrotman | !mysql |
| 00:06.10 | dpkg | A fast and simple relational database implementing a limited subset of SQL. Can do replication; no views, stored procedures, triggers; transaction support not consistent. Packaged as 'mysql-server' and 'mysql-client'. Also see http://mysql.com and #mysql. http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/, or mysql is great for your grandmother's blog but if you want a real and free db you should look at postgresql, or <mysql gotchas> |
| 00:06.53 | abrotman | jade: consider using postgresql instead :) |
| 00:06.57 | jade | lol |
| 00:07.20 | abrotman | i'm not joking |
| 00:07.22 | jade | abrotman, yes that question came early on in the design |
| 00:07.51 | Rawplayer | or oracle ;-) |
| 00:08.16 | jade | abrotman, is postgresql faster than mysql necessarily ? |
| 00:08.17 | abrotman | well .. i assumed he was looking for a Free Speech Database .. and a real one :) |
| 00:08.27 | jade | (all other things being equal) |
| 00:08.39 | abrotman | jade: for what you're doing .. it will probably be an overall better choice .. features/speed both being considered |
| 00:09.07 | randomity | jade, generally, mysql is faster than postgres, but mysql is limited in features. If it's anything slightly complicated, you're probably better with postgres |
| 00:09.30 | jade | abrotman, randomity: yes i can definitely give it a shot as i build it out |
| 00:09.52 | abrotman | jade: mysql is not faster than postgresql for all situations .. |
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| 00:10.29 | abrotman | if you do nothing but simple selects . it may be faster .. but as soon as your queries start to get more complex .. it does not continue to beat pgsql in speed |
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| 00:10.40 | abrotman | jade: also .. there is the licensing issue of mysql |
| 00:10.44 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Is MySQL not faster with low data and Postgre faster with manny data ? |
| 00:11.05 | abrotman | jade: http://www.postgresql.org/about/advantages |
| 00:11.20 | Azar | is kde or gnome needed for cdrbq? |
| 00:11.47 | abrotman | dvm1981: it's not that simple .. but as a "general" rule .. for simple DB needs mysql is fine .. but if you require features AND speed .. postgresql is the way to go |
| 00:11.56 | randomity | abrotman, the licensing issue of mysql is that it's GPL. So is the linux kernel. |
| 00:12.10 | abrotman | randomity: you don't know jade's app .. mysql is dual-licensed |
| 00:12.19 | abrotman | randomity: it is only GPL for open apps |
| 00:12.19 | pumpkin0 | randomity: only some parts are GPL, not all. |
| 00:12.42 | abrotman | randomity: http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/ |
| 00:12.47 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how to install mplayer? |
| 00:12.57 | abrotman | !tell sjaakz0r about mplayer |
| 00:12.59 | randomity | abrotman, surely any GPL app is "only GPL for open apps", i.e. cannot be incorporated in proprietary code |
| 00:13.00 | abrotman | !tell sjaakz0r about marillat |
| 00:13.02 | KerPlunk | !tell sjaakz0r about marillat |
| 00:13.11 | abrotman | randomity: pgsql has no such restrictions |
| 00:13.15 | KerPlunk | lag, sorry |
| 00:13.17 | dvm1981 | abrotman: Thx for the subject you're talking here. I learn PHP with MySQL, so i think that i go to learn a little bit more about Postgre before continuing with MySQL |
| 00:13.45 | abrotman | most people start with mysql .. and hit this problem or that problem .. and they end up on postgres |
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| 00:14.12 | pumpkin0 | dvm1981: if you want to learn howto handel transactions: switch now. |
| 00:14.14 | dvm1981 | abrotman: It's not the first time that someone say me ... about Postgre |
| 00:14.19 | abrotman | i got lucky .. i knew postgres well before i knew mysql existed :) |
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| 00:14.36 | sjaakz0r | how can I see my apt version? |
| 00:14.43 | abrotman | then i got stuck using mysql for some stuff .. it's freaking horrible |
| 00:14.44 | dvm1981 | pumpkin0: Yes, i go to do it :-) |
| 00:14.46 | KerPlunk | randomity: read this > http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing |
| 00:14.48 | abrotman | sjaakz0r: dpkg -l apt |
| 00:14.58 | abrotman | KerPlunk: i already gave him that :) |
| 00:15.07 | sjaakz0r | doesn't work abrotman |
| 00:15.12 | randomity | abrotman, Sorry, I just don't think its use of the GPL is a reason to boycott it. Many open-source projects use the GPL, and are not condemned as non-free. Boycott it for lack of features if you want, but not for GPL. |
| 00:15.15 | abrotman | sjaakz0r: what does it say ? |
| 00:15.21 | sjaakz0r | neeed an action option |
| 00:15.25 | sjaakz0r | wait |
| 00:15.29 | sjaakz0r | my mistake I think |
| 00:15.34 | sjaakz0r | yup |
| 00:15.37 | abrotman | randomity: i meant that if jade's app is a commerical app .. he is "required" to pay the licensing fee |
| 00:15.50 | mrphreak | how i set my wireless network on debian ? |
| 00:15.51 | randomity | abrotman, fair enough. |
| 00:16.01 | KerPlunk | randomity: boycott is because it isn't free as in freedom...it's a non-free program. |
| 00:16.16 | randomity | KerPlunk, so the GPL is not "free as in freedom"? |
| 00:16.18 | abrotman | randomity: the licensing page is pretty vague .. and i've asked #mysql to clarify .. they basically said "call sales office to make sure" |
| 00:16.33 | abrotman | randomity: he's saying it's not GPL for everyone |
| 00:16.37 | mrphreak | ¿? |
| 00:16.44 | abrotman | (though pgsql isn't GPL either) |
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| 00:16.57 | randomity | abrotman, from http://www.mysql.com/company/legal/licensing/opensource-license.html: Our software is 100% GPL (General Public License); if yours is 100% GPL compliant, then you have no obligation to pay us for the licenses. |
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| 00:17.06 | dvm1981 | mrphreak: TLDP (The Linux Documentation Project) Have you look there ? |
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| 00:17.23 | abrotman | randomity: and is jade's app 100% GPL ? |
| 00:17.28 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how the apt-key works? |
| 00:17.29 | mrphreak | dvm1981 i not found here.. |
| 00:17.35 | ice_1963 | is there a phone program linux that you call home phone's for free?? |
| 00:17.36 | abrotman | man apt-key |
| 00:17.47 | KerPlunk | !tell sjaakz0r about marillat key |
| 00:17.55 | sjaakz0r | yeah kerplunk I read that |
| 00:17.59 | Azar | since Sarge is "frozen" no new packages of any kind will be added? like utilities, games? |
| 00:18.07 | sjaakz0r | but when I type that KerPlunk I get an error |
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| 00:18.11 | abrotman | Azar: nope .. mostly security updates |
| 00:18.12 | randomity | abrotman, that's a fair point, and a good reason to use postgres. I just object to people (*cough* KerPlunk *cough*) calling it non-free because it is GPL |
| 00:18.15 | jshoenberger | ice_1963, I'm going to say no. |
| 00:18.16 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: Just type what dpkg tells you...or if you want to learn, man apt-key and man gpg |
| 00:18.21 | Azar | thank you abrotman :) |
| 00:18.29 | mrphreak | dvm1981 , but i want that after of reboot initialize my cell association ESSID .. IP , etc. |
| 00:18.29 | Azar | I feel Etch is gonna be a hit |
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| 00:18.56 | abrotman | randomity: it's just not completely free .. there are exceptions for PHP apps IIRC .. but whatever .. i don't object to mysql just because of the shitty licensing .. it's just flat out inferior :) |
| 00:19.11 | Heroin | how do i move the contents of a folder |
| 00:19.12 | Heroin | ? |
| 00:19.14 | dvm1981 | mrphreak: A great website http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/ |
| 00:19.27 | abrotman | Azar: there is a list of changes for 3.1r1 |
| 00:19.27 | abrotman | Heroin: mv |
| 00:19.27 | mrphreak | dvm1981 ok, thank :-) |
| 00:19.31 | KerPlunk | !tell Heroin about mv |
| 00:19.32 | sjaakz0r | sudo: apt-key command not found |
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| 00:19.48 | Heroin | but that moves the folder i need to mv the ocntents |
| 00:19.59 | randomity | Heroin, mv folder/* destination/ |
| 00:20.01 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: login as root and type this.. "apt-get install gnupg sudo" |
| 00:20.05 | dvm1981 | mrphreak: 'TLDP' Not forget it ! -> bookmarks |
| 00:20.14 | Heroin | than u |
| 00:20.14 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: Then type the command from dpkg again. |
| 00:20.20 | sjaakz0r | allready installer kerplunk |
| 00:20.24 | sjaakz0r | installed even |
| 00:20.27 | abrotman | Azar: http://lists.debian.org/debian-announce/debian-announce-2005/msg00005.html |
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| 00:21.43 | abrotman | randomity: pgsql is licensed under the BSDL .. so take that for what you will .. not everyone approves of the bsdl |
| 00:21.57 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: Are you root when you type this command? |
| 00:22.10 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: When you ls /usr/bin/apt-key does the file exist? |
| 00:22.30 | Azar | thank you abrotman :) |
| 00:22.30 | sjaakz0r | no it doesn';t |
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| 00:22.35 | Azar | DotDeb.org has released PHP 5.1.2 and MySQL 5.0.18 packages for Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 |
| 00:22.44 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: What version of debian are you using? |
| 00:22.48 | abrotman | Azar: yes .. but they're unofficial |
| 00:22.50 | sjaakz0r | stable |
| 00:22.52 | sjaakz0r | 2.6 |
| 00:22.58 | abrotman | stable doesn't have keys for apt |
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| 00:22.59 | Azar | abrotman ah.. I see |
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| 00:23.14 | sjaakz0r | k...so I have to edit sources.list I guess? |
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| 00:23.42 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: What are you trying to do? |
| 00:23.45 | randomity | does etch have (m)any broken dependencies? |
| 00:23.50 | sjaakz0r | kerplunk install mplayer |
| 00:23.51 | abrotman | depends what you use :) |
| 00:24.00 | abrotman | randomity: KDE is all kinds of screwed up in etch right now |
| 00:24.01 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: Did you see what dpkg said to you about marillat? |
| 00:24.09 | randomity | abrotman, does it install at all? |
| 00:24.21 | abrotman | randomity: parts of it do .. the metapackage "kde" will not install |
| 00:24.25 | abrotman | !install kde |
| 00:24.25 | dpkg | install kde is, like, In sarge, the metapackage 'kde' installs tons of stuff, 'kde-core' slightly less, and 'kdebase' even less. |
| 00:24.28 | sjaakz0r | yes to read the site you mean? |
| 00:24.29 | abrotman | i think .. kde-core still installs |
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| 00:24.44 | abrotman | randomity: last i knew .. k3b was still not in etch |
| 00:24.58 | randomity | if you install the packages separatly, is it possible to get a working KDE system? |
| 00:25.15 | abrotman | randomity: you can start with kdebase or kde-core .. and then try to get apps from there |
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| 00:25.39 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: type this as root, echo "deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main >> /etc/apt/sources.list"; apt-get update && apt-get install mplayer-nogui; |
| 00:25.41 | dvm1981 | abrotman: thx another thing i have learned |
| 00:25.57 | sjaakz0r | well kerplunk the only thing I want is to be able to see if my tv-card works :( |
| 00:25.59 | sjaakz0r | that's all |
| 00:26.12 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: no idea |
| 00:26.27 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: You probably want #mythtv |
| 00:26.37 | pumpkin0 | sjaakz0r: try xawtv ? |
| 00:27.01 | EmleyMoor | What kind of tv card is it? |
| 00:27.09 | abrotman | 500 hauppage |
| 00:27.17 | Heroin | how do i force delete rmdir |
| 00:27.19 | Heroin | ? |
| 00:27.27 | pumpkin0 | Heroin: rm -rf dir |
| 00:27.30 | EmleyMoor | hauppauge work with xawtv, generally better than they do in Windows! |
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| 00:27.54 | sjaakz0r | pumpkin0 that requirs xfree86 right? |
| 00:28.09 | pumpkin0 | EmleyMoor: it's a MPG2-enabled card. They do need some heavy kernel-modules support. |
| 00:28.16 | KerPlunk | Heroin: It's better practice to delete a directory by typing "rm -r directory" you should only use -f when you need to. |
| 00:28.18 | pumpkin0 | sjaakz0r: it should work with xorg too. |
| 00:28.41 | EmleyMoor | pumpkin0: Do you mean it's DVB or something else? |
| 00:28.54 | EmleyMoor | I have never worked with DVB cards, btw, only plain analog |
| 00:29.13 | pumpkin0 | EmleyMoor: no, PVR with MPG2-Chip. nasty thing to install. |
| 00:29.14 | Azar | question: when I do the regular updates/upgrades, security packages will not be shown? I just did now and I only got upgrade to unzip.. |
| 00:29.33 | abrotman | there was a DSA for unzip |
| 00:29.38 | abrotman | !dsa |
| 00:29.38 | dpkg | i heard dsa is Debian Security Announcement, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/. Debian Sysadmin, the people you pester to install software and such on Debian Project computers |
| 00:29.46 | abrotman | Azar: subscribe to that list |
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| 00:30.07 | Azar | ok how, I include it on my sources.list? |
| 00:30.13 | abrotman | dpkg: dsa =~ s#nce/.#nce/ # |
| 00:30.13 | dpkg | abrotman: OK |
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| 00:30.30 | abrotman | Azar: go to security.debian.org |
| 00:30.37 | pumpkin0 | sjaakz0r: http://www.linuxtv.org/vdrwiki/index.php/HauppaugePVR and cross fingers vdr already supports the 500. |
| 00:30.41 | Azar | abrotman ok |
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| 00:31.00 | sjaakz0r | ok |
| 00:31.07 | linuxddr_p133 | hi |
| 00:31.38 | linuxddr_p133 | how do i change the ftp site of my recently install of debian |
| 00:31.43 | linuxddr_p133 | cause i cant install nothing |
| 00:31.44 | linuxddr_p133 | on it |
| 00:31.47 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 00:31.50 | linuxddr_p133 | it saokk |
| 00:31.52 | linuxddr_p133 | thanks |
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| 00:32.20 | Azar | cool |
| 00:32.33 | linuxddr_p133 | :) |
| 00:32.36 | linuxddr_p133 | working |
| 00:32.39 | abrotman | linuxddr_p133: that worked? |
| 00:32.42 | linuxddr_p133 | yes |
| 00:32.45 | abrotman | good |
| 00:32.46 | linuxddr_p133 | it worked |
| 00:32.51 | linuxddr_p133 | now i have to install my xorg |
| 00:32.52 | linuxddr_p133 | hehe |
| 00:32.58 | abrotman | linuxddr_p133: on sarge or etch ? |
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| 00:33.02 | linuxddr_p133 | sarge |
| 00:33.07 | linuxddr_p133 | the netinstall |
| 00:33.09 | linuxddr_p133 | i tooked |
| 00:33.09 | abrotman | sarge doesn't officially have xorg |
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| 00:33.31 | linuxddr_p133 | okk |
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| 00:33.42 | abrotman | linuxddr_p133: backports.org may be helpful to you .. but the packages there aren't really supported here |
| 00:33.50 | linuxddr_p133 | ok |
| 00:33.51 | linuxddr_p133 | hehe |
| 00:33.58 | linuxddr_p133 | but i want to know also |
| 00:34.05 | linuxddr_p133 | does xfree and xorg is the same thing? |
| 00:34.05 | abrotman | wait .. only one question per day! |
| 00:34.09 | linuxddr_p133 | o ok |
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| 00:34.25 | abrotman | linuxddr_p133: yes .. and if your machine is old .. as tyhe P133 suggests .. xorg might be a worse choice |
| 00:34.27 | pumpkin0 | linuxddr_p133: for the avg. user: yes. |
| 00:34.39 | linuxddr_p133 | no ist for an sempron 2800+ |
| 00:34.42 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 00:34.43 | linuxddr_p133 | that im installing |
| 00:34.43 | linuxddr_p133 | it |
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| 00:34.53 | linuxddr_p133 | my p133 is running well on xfree and icewm |
| 00:34.59 | abrotman | ah .. gotcha |
| 00:35.12 | linuxddr_p133 | so abrotman does xfree or xorg & |
| 00:35.14 | linuxddr_p133 | ? |
| 00:35.23 | linuxddr_p133 | i have 1 gig of ram on it and 6600 gt |
| 00:35.24 | abrotman | do they what ? |
| 00:35.31 | abrotman | ah .. either will work but you'll need this |
| 00:35.36 | abrotman | !tell linuxddr_p133 about nvidia one-liner |
| 00:35.40 | keyhack | What is the best way to get DHCP to work on bootup? I have to run "dhclient" by hand right now to get it working |
| 00:35.46 | linuxddr_p133 | okkk |
| 00:35.46 | sjaakz0r | erm n00b question..how can I start x? |
| 00:35.50 | abrotman | !tell keyhack about interfaces |
| 00:35.54 | linuxddr_p133 | hehe its easy |
| 00:35.55 | abrotman | sjaakz0r: do you havea a DM? |
| 00:35.56 | pumpkin0 | sjaakz0r: startx |
| 00:35.57 | linuxddr_p133 | startx |
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| 00:36.04 | streuner | !tell keyhack about dhcp client |
| 00:36.05 | sjaakz0r | oei |
| 00:36.08 | sjaakz0r | command not found :P |
| 00:36.13 | kspath | stopx ? |
| 00:36.16 | KerPlunk | !tell linuxddr_p133 about enter |
| 00:36.17 | abrotman | sjaakz0r: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 00:36.23 | lex_ | Heyas Unix lawrds... What would make the command who, return incorrect dates for sessions. I get all the sessions for december 16... which is wrong. The date of the server is right. |
| 00:36.37 | linuxddr_p133 | how do i change my window on irssi-text ?? |
| 00:36.37 | linuxddr_p133 | hehe |
| 00:36.42 | keyhack | abrotman: I have dhcp defined in my interfaces |
| 00:36.47 | KerPlunk | lex_: What does the "date" command give you? |
| 00:36.51 | abrotman | linuxddr_p133: ctrl-p .. ctrl-n .. i think .. |
| 00:36.52 | keyhack | hmm, i'll p lay around |
| 00:36.54 | KerPlunk | linuxddr_p133: control n |
| 00:36.56 | linuxddr_p133 | ok thanks |
| 00:37.00 | sjaakz0r | ah offcourse..had everything but the core |
| 00:37.04 | abrotman | keyhack: is it a laptop ? |
| 00:37.11 | noiesmo | keyhack, man rc-update.d |
| 00:37.17 | lex_ | KerPlunk, [root@servermfg ~]# date |
| 00:37.17 | lex_ | Fri Jan 13 18:26:18 CST 2006 |
| 00:37.19 | abrotman | update-rc.d |
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| 00:37.44 | abrotman | keyhack: a laptop ? |
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| 00:37.51 | keyhack | nah, I got it, it was missing "auto eth0" |
| 00:37.56 | abrotman | ah .. good |
| 00:38.06 | keyhack | my next question is |
| 00:38.29 | keyhack | I have just the basic X installed, and right now it boots into a graphical login, but rather, I want it to run X and exec a java application, how can I do this? |
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| 00:38.42 | abrotman | !tell keyhack about install java |
| 00:38.50 | keyhack | I have java installed, lol |
| 00:38.53 | keyhack | I'm asking about the bootup part |
| 00:38.58 | g3wn | can someone help me w/ a debain installation problem? |
| 00:39.00 | abrotman | keyhack: you mean .. you want it to just launch the appp instead of xdm ? |
| 00:39.04 | abrotman | g3wn: just ask |
| 00:39.08 | KerPlunk | !tell g3wn about ask |
| 00:39.12 | KerPlunk | !tell g3wn about anyone |
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| 00:39.28 | Azar | g3wn, say: I need help with.. |
| 00:39.32 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, on bootup, launch the app (skip the login process). I have it where if I run "startx" after I login, then I get my java app running, but on bootup I end up in xdm instead |
| 00:39.38 | Smoked1 | Can someone tell me what is wrong with my /etc/exports file? |
| 00:39.57 | KerPlunk | Smoked1: I doubt it if that is all the information you are going to provide. |
| 00:39.58 | abrotman | keyhack: there's a way .. now if only i could remember what it was :) |
| 00:40.01 | KerPlunk | !tell Smoked1 about ask |
| 00:40.24 | Smoked1 | home/backups/cms_backups 192.168.6.2 (rw) |
| 00:40.38 | noiesmo | !tell noiesmo about nvidia one-liner |
| 00:40.40 | Smoked1 | I want my freebsd box to be able to read and write to it |
| 00:40.58 | abrotman | keyhack: the man page for the x server might help |
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| 00:41.32 | KerPlunk | Smoked1: No one is going to be able to help you they way you are asking...you just elaborate and be clear and descriptive... Smoked1 please read what dpkg told you in private.(other window) |
| 00:41.53 | keyhack | abrotman: The issue is logging into the box |
| 00:42.02 | abrotman | keyhack: it's easy to stop the DM |
| 00:42.06 | abrotman | !tell keyhack about nodm |
| 00:42.09 | keyhack | abrotman: Someone said something about rc.local, having it sh a script that sudo's to a user account, and then starts x? |
| 00:42.16 | abrotman | keyhack: debian has no rc.local |
| 00:42.56 | linuxddr_p133 | :P |
| 00:43.02 | KerPlunk | keyhack: If you don't want a desktop manager, say you are using xdm, just type "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" |
| 00:43.04 | Durin | keyhack: i removed xdm, wrote a short wrapper script around startx and placed it into /etc/inittab |
| 00:43.12 | keyhack | abrotman: Well, I tried to remove "xdm", but it wanted to remove x-server-package with it or something |
| 00:43.17 | linuxddr_p133 | whats the difference about xorg and xfree86 ? |
| 00:43.27 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Don't remove xdm...just maake it so it doesn't startup. |
| 00:43.39 | abrotman | keyhack: x-window-system{-core} is a metapackage |
| 00:43.44 | abrotman | !tell DeFi about away |
| 00:43.44 | Durin | KerPlunk: debian way: remove it |
| 00:43.59 | jshoenberger | •KerPlunk• |
| 00:44.02 | jshoenberger | Er... |
| 00:44.09 | linuxddr_p133 | lol |
| 00:44.19 | jshoenberger | Script boo boo |
| 00:44.57 | abrotman | !moo |
| 00:44.57 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 00:45.02 | keyhack | KerPlunk: So how do I achieve what I want to do? |
| 00:45.23 | KerPlunk | keyhack: I'm not sure what you want to do. |
| 00:45.25 | g3wn | I need help with debian (debian-31r1-i386) hanging after installation at 'usb-uhci.c'.This link has the same problem with no solution. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=1393&highlight=usbuhci+c |
| 00:45.33 | KerPlunk | keyhack: You just want a program to start when you computer starts? |
| 00:45.35 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, on bootup, launch the app (skip the login process). I have it where if I run "startx" after I login, then I get my java app running, but on bootup I end up in xdm instead |
| 00:45.35 | Azar | :)nice dpkg |
| 00:45.49 | abrotman | keyhack: he already told you .. just use update-rc.d to remove the xdm/kdm/gdm/whatever from rc2 |
| 00:45.51 | keyhack | KerPlunk: Yeah, basically. It's a TV application |
| 00:46.05 | KerPlunk | keyhack: What window manager do you use? |
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| 00:46.14 | keyhack | KerPlunk: None |
| 00:46.29 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Is your program a gui? |
| 00:46.36 | keyhack | KerPlunk: Yeah |
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| 00:46.40 | KerPlunk | er |
| 00:46.43 | keyhack | KerPlunk: Don't need a wm though |
| 00:46.51 | KerPlunk | keyhack: I know...but I have no idea how to help you. |
| 00:46.52 | abrotman | you need at least one |
| 00:46.59 | keyhack | abrotman: No, you don't |
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| 00:47.28 | abrotman | ok .. if you want anything usable .. you do :) |
| 00:47.29 | Azar | g3wn it seems like some usb device or module tries to load at reboot.. what usb device are you using? |
| 00:47.30 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Why don't you just install blackbox...it is probably one of the fastest window managers that exists...it's like you aren't even running anything...it takes up no cpu/mem |
| 00:47.42 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Then just edit ~/.blackbox/startup and have whatever you want startup. |
| 00:47.43 | keyhack | KerPlunk: I don't see how blackbox makes it any easier for me? |
| 00:47.47 | abrotman | keyhack: if your app runs full screen .. you're right .. you don't need one |
| 00:47.49 | keyhack | KerPlunk: I have that, .xsession |
| 00:48.03 | keyhack | KerPlunk: Does exactly what I want, _after_ I log in through the text login, and run start |
| 00:48.12 | keyhack | abrotman: Bingo |
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| 00:48.33 | abrotman | keyhack: just try putting the app name in your .xinitrc |
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| 00:48.49 | KerPlunk | keyhack: read http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue72/chung.html |
| 00:48.53 | keyhack | abrotman: How would that get autoexec'd during bootup though? Wouldn't I still need to log in first? |
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| 00:49.22 | abrotman | keyhack: you can use an initscript .. and startx as a user (i wouldn't start it as root for obvious reasons) |
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| 00:50.05 | abrotman | keyhack: so put the app name in the users .xinitrc .. then use a su -c in an initscript to startx |
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| 00:50.27 | keyhack | abrotman: Ok, I've never edited an initscript before though |
| 00:50.28 | KerPlunk | that will work? |
| 00:50.42 | abrotman | keyhack: you're making your own :) |
| 00:50.57 | abrotman | KerPlunk: dunno .. we'll find out .. i've never done it |
| 00:50.59 | keyhack | abrotman: Ok, sounds good |
| 00:51.03 | KerPlunk | same, lol |
| 00:51.09 | KerPlunk | imho autologin is very unsecure |
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| 00:51.21 | g3wn | azar: intel 82801 DBM ICH4-M |
| 00:51.23 | abrotman | it's not really a login .. it sounds like he's making a dumb terminal of sorts |
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| 00:52.02 | g3wn | azar: I'm on a laptop btw. A acer travelmate 4000 |
| 00:52.12 | Azar | g3wn you should make note of your boot error and show it here |
| 00:52.21 | keyhack | lol, guys, its just a TV box! thats all, its not like I'm holding secure files or people are going to be using my machine |
| 00:52.41 | Azar | g3wn but if you use Sarge installer try to install it with linux26, it would get better support |
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| 00:52.59 | noiesmo | keyhack, is based on mythtv |
| 00:53.01 | g3wn | azer: its not a error though.. it just hangs. this link has the same problem. http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=1393&highlight=usbuhci+c |
| 00:53.06 | aztec101 | hello |
| 00:53.31 | aztec101 | exit |
| 00:53.33 | Azar | g3wn, unfortunately I am 0 knowledge at laptops... |
| 00:53.57 | abrotman | keyhack: anyways .. put your app name in a generic user's .xinitrc |
| 00:54.00 | g3wn | azar: no problem |
| 00:54.00 | KerPlunk | !tell g3wn about laptop |
| 00:54.06 | keyhack | abrotman: Already done |
| 00:54.19 | abrotman | keyhack: from the init script .. su -c username "startx" .. or something to that effect |
| 00:54.36 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, how do I create that init script? |
| 00:54.41 | abrotman | i just did it :) |
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| 00:55.03 | abrotman | keyhack: go to /etc/init.d/ .. and create a new file like "customStartX" or something like that |
| 00:55.07 | phycho | hey guys, anyone got any ideas how i can get a list of iptables rules which have connections? |
| 00:55.08 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Just nano /etc/init.d/unsecuresystem |
| 00:55.21 | keyhack | KerPlunk: Your point has been noted |
| 00:55.31 | KerPlunk | keyhack: then add #!/bin/bash (newline) su -c username "startx" |
| 00:55.36 | g3wn | azar: I'm a total newb.. how do I install with linux26? |
| 00:55.39 | abrotman | keyhack: .. update-rc.d customStartX defaults |
| 00:55.47 | KerPlunk | keyhack: then chmod +x /etc/init.d/unsecuresystem |
| 00:55.51 | phycho | nm got it |
| 00:55.55 | abrotman | oh yeah .. i forgot the chmod part :) |
| 00:56.00 | abrotman | keyhack: see what i mean :) |
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| 00:56.12 | janez | hi.. |
| 00:56.15 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Then make a symbolic link, for your runlevel(2 by default) ln -s /etc/init.d/unsecuresystem /etc/rc2.d/S99unsecure |
| 00:56.19 | Durin | keyhack: as long as the user cant end your application i would really start in by init |
| 00:56.21 | janez | exim4 have incluted smtp server? |
| 00:56.26 | abrotman | KerPlunk: update-rc.d! |
| 00:56.34 | KerPlunk | lol |
| 00:57.03 | zu22 | haha i remember that game, kerplunk |
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| 00:57.12 | keyhack | wait, so don't do the ln -s? |
| 00:57.15 | delire | don't go manually dragging symlinks through your /etc/init.d/* sheesh! |
| 00:57.25 | abrotman | he didn't |
| 00:57.30 | KerPlunk | keyhack: either way will work...it is good practice to use abrotman's method. |
| 00:57.38 | abrotman | keyhack: update-rc.d <scriptname> defaults |
| 00:57.43 | KerPlunk | keyhack: Did you create the file and chmod it already? |
| 00:57.54 | abrotman | though .. maybe not defaults .. since that will probably put it in 0 and 6 too |
| 00:57.56 | keyhack | I'm already rebooting |
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| 00:58.15 | abrotman | keyhack: well .. hopefully it won't explode |
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| 00:58.24 | keyhack | only one way to find out |
| 00:58.34 | abrotman | keyhack: hide behind the bed! |
| 00:58.34 | jeff01 | anyone know about porting a program written in dbase 3? |
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| 00:58.43 | abrotman | !pal jeff01 |
| 00:58.56 | jeff01 | abrotman: sorry, dont know much about it |
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| 00:59.07 | abrotman | jeff01: dbaseIII .. is probably .. 15 years old |
| 00:59.08 | jeff01 | i wasnt alive in 1985 |
| 00:59.11 | KerPlunk | !dbase |
| 00:59.12 | dpkg | i heard dbase is stupid. Don't worry about it |
| 00:59.17 | abrotman | hehe |
| 00:59.18 | delire | hehe |
| 00:59.29 | abrotman | jeff01: i don't know of any way to directly port it |
| 00:59.35 | delire | anyway, tis too late for shennanegans. |
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| 00:59.41 | jeff01 | abrotman: trying to help a friend out. he wrote a program for his business ion dbase 3, and its running on a server from 1989 |
| 00:59.47 | KerPlunk | I don't know of any dbase programs in existance that are worth porting. |
| 00:59.55 | keyhack | Didn't do anything, at a login prompt |
| 01:00.08 | keyhack | oh oh |
| 01:00.10 | keyhack | I see an error |
| 01:00.11 | abrotman | jeff01: http://linux.techass.com/projects/xdb/ |
| 01:00.16 | keyhack | "Unknown id: startx" |
| 01:00.16 | KerPlunk | keyhack: What is the line in your script? |
| 01:00.19 | abrotman | jeff01: that's what google turns up |
| 01:00.24 | abrotman | keyhack: what does the scirpt say? |
| 01:00.34 | abrotman | !feed me |
| 01:00.52 | keyhack | su -c nouser "startx" |
| 01:01.04 | jeff01 | abrotman: thanks, i tried earlier but met dead ends |
| 01:01.05 | abrotman | i don't think it's " .. i think it's actually ' or ` |
| 01:01.25 | Matt-H | keyhack: su nouser -c "startx" |
| 01:01.35 | jeff01 | abrotman: he has the program running on a novell server from 198....5? i want to say |
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| 01:01.43 | keyhack | it's ` not " nor ' |
| 01:01.46 | abrotman | jeff01: i feel bad for you ... did you check that link ? |
| 01:01.50 | abrotman | keyhack: did X start? |
| 01:01.56 | jeff01 | yea |
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| 01:02.02 | De_Mon | how do I find out which packages from unstable I have installed? |
| 01:02.08 | keyhack | abrotman: X did, not the application |
| 01:02.12 | abrotman | keyhack: did you use te full path to the binary ? |
| 01:02.21 | linuxddr_p133 | whats the difference bettwen xfree86 and xorg?? |
| 01:02.22 | jeff01 | abrotman: have a good one man, peace |
| 01:02.22 | abrotman | in the .xinitrc i mean |
| 01:02.23 | kmart | !topic |
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| 01:02.34 | abrotman | jeff01: sorry we don't know more .. but dbase3 is very very old |
| 01:02.36 | keyhack | abrotman: yeah |
| 01:02.46 | abrotman | jeff01: there may be other tools .. google "dbase linux" |
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| 01:02.57 | keyhack | let me try something... |
| 01:02.57 | jeff01 | abrotman: haha it was written by a high school comsi student between 1983 and 1985p |
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| 01:03.03 | jeff01 | compsci* |
| 01:03.07 | abrotman | jeff01: ouch |
| 01:03.26 | kmart | anyone using imwheel? ;-) |
| 01:03.26 | abrotman | keyhack: can you startx as that user? .. ie .. `su - nouser` .. then startx |
| 01:03.27 | jeff01 | abrotman: mechanics dont know much about computers |
| 01:03.27 | jeanseb789 | hello, jeanseb:/home/jeanseb# apt-get install synaptic |
| 01:03.28 | jeanseb789 | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 01:03.28 | jeanseb789 | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 01:03.29 | jeanseb789 | Package synaptic is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
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| 01:03.35 | abrotman | jeff01: it happens |
| 01:03.48 | abrotman | yay for C++! :) |
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| 01:04.13 | jeff01 | abrotman: peace |
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| 01:04.37 | eliba | a silly question, the messages shown by "apt-get" (example: the following foo package will be installed, etc ... ) can only be in English, right guys? |
| 01:05.05 | kmart | yeah eliba |
| 01:05.07 | Onizeth | wrong eliba |
| 01:05.12 | kmart | lol |
| 01:05.16 | Onizeth | XD |
| 01:05.24 | eliba | heh, so ? yes or no ? :P |
| 01:05.50 | Onizeth | i have them in spanish |
| 01:05.50 | abrotman | eliba: no |
| 01:05.54 | Onizeth | so... guess |
| 01:05.55 | abrotman | eliba: you can pick the language |
| 01:05.59 | kmart | do alias "funny command"="apt-get install" and u can make yer own |
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| 01:06.05 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:06.05 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:06.10 | kspath | abrotman: I received the pickaxe book 2nd edition today ! |
| 01:06.19 | abrotman | kspath: hot chicks inside? |
| 01:06.25 | eliba | ok abrotman, thanks :) |
| 01:06.32 | kspath | abrotman: every page man |
| 01:06.33 | abrotman | eliba: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 01:06.37 | smacnay | Hi, I just compiled a vanilla 2.6.15 kernel but, on boot, I got a kernel panic message regarding VFS sync. Did I miss something in the configuration? |
| 01:06.43 | eliba | I'll google for more info |
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| 01:07.07 | kspath | abrotman: programming ruby The pragmatic programmers guide 2nd |
| 01:07.09 | jeanseb789 | hello |
| 01:07.17 | Onizeth | hey eliba, where are u from? |
| 01:07.19 | abrotman | kspath: did you read hte poignant guide to ruby? |
| 01:07.21 | abrotman | !u |
| 01:07.21 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 01:07.40 | abrotman | god .. if i could only smack every person that says "u" |
| 01:07.48 | Onizeth | hehe, sorry |
| 01:08.02 | Onizeth | sometimes is faster to write it that way |
| 01:08.08 | kspath | ur funnee abtitman! |
| 01:08.09 | keyhack | abrotman: It only works when I do "su - nouser" and then "startx", if I do "su nouser -c `startx`", I only get the X screen. It's not parsing the .xinitrc nor the .xsession file for nouser, I know this because I change the background color to black, and it's not doing that |
| 01:08.10 | abrotman | god: really .. that would be the best gift to humanity ever ... |
| 01:08.20 | Onizeth | but the fact is that i don't now how englishman feel about that :P |
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| 01:08.53 | Matt-H | It's quicker to type the extra two characters in the first place as you avoid all this debate about it ;-) |
| 01:09.26 | abrotman | Onizeth: educated ones care |
| 01:09.31 | Onizeth | hehe |
| 01:09.39 | keyhack | abrotman: Any ideas? |
| 01:09.42 | kspath | i iz edumacated |
| 01:09.52 | Onizeth | ok, i'll try to keep it in mind |
| 01:09.54 | kspath | -c +k |
| 01:10.00 | abrotman | keyhack: try su -c nosuer "export HOME=/home/nouser && startx" .. or something like that |
| 01:10.19 | keyhack | abrotman: Sure |
| 01:10.31 | Onizeth | i suppose i feel the same when i see some horrible things written in my language |
| 01:10.36 | keyhack | abrotman: Worked! |
| 01:10.44 | abrotman | keyhack: are you a happy boy? :) |
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| 01:11.13 | keyhack | abrotman: Almost! Just gotta get LIRC working ;-) |
| 01:11.21 | abrotman | that's important? |
| 01:11.41 | abrotman | wait .. isn't lirc the IR control thingie? |
| 01:11.42 | keyhack | abrotman: Need to control my UI somehow ;-) |
| 01:12.02 | abrotman | keyhack: i'd be interested to know how that works .. i want to use my VCR remote to control a "stereo" box i'm thinking about making |
| 01:12.19 | abrotman | (since i don't own any VCR tapes) |
| 01:12.25 | Fluten | how much faster is reiserfs than ext3? |
| 01:12.26 | keyhack | abrotman: Too bad when I rebooted, it didn't fix it. After I update my script, do I need to run anything? |
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| 01:12.46 | abrotman | Fluten: faster doesn't matter .. will the data still be there tomorrow? |
| 01:12.54 | abrotman | keyhack: so it doesn't work on boot? .. but as root it works ? |
| 01:13.13 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, but I had to modify the script, so do I need to run update-rc.d or something? |
| 01:13.14 | abrotman | !fs comparison |
| 01:13.14 | dpkg | filesystem comparison is, like, http://linuxgazette.net/102/piszcz.html or http://www.linuxmafia.com/faq/Filesystems/ or http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 01:13.19 | abrotman | keyhack: shouldn't have to |
| 01:13.32 | abrotman | keyhack: what's the script again ? |
| 01:14.03 | keyhack | abrotman: I see an error now, "line 2: startx: command not found" |
| 01:14.10 | keyhack | "bash: nouser: command not found" |
| 01:14.11 | noiesmo | would a smb file server, web server with netjuke run ok on a local lan with only 64 mb ram processor is celeron 566 debian stable install there are 4 lan users |
| 01:14.21 | abrotman | keyhack: that'll do it |
| 01:14.27 | abrotman | keyhack: you may have to put the full path to startx |
| 01:14.44 | keyhack | k |
| 01:16.06 | Azar | I want to learn Bash scripting too.. |
| 01:16.25 | keyhack | abrotman: no no, it's completely barfing on the "su" command for some reason |
| 01:16.43 | abrotman | keyhack: what's the line? |
| 01:16.56 | abrotman | from the script |
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| 01:17.06 | keyhack | abrotman: the same line I used to run it in the console, where it works |
| 01:17.13 | abrotman | keyhack: let me see it please :) |
| 01:17.20 | keyhack | *sigh* |
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| 01:17.35 | linoleum | hello, is there a way to install the kat package for KDE? because I didn't find this package, anywhere :( |
| 01:17.36 | cisee | noiesmo: it would run, depends how much users are using it, i would say no for an office |
| 01:17.39 | abrotman | should be like su -c username "stuff you want to run" |
| 01:17.39 | keyhack | su nouser -c `export HOME=/home/nouser && startx` |
| 01:17.54 | abrotman | no .. option first .. username second :) |
| 01:18.00 | keyhack | no, its not |
| 01:18.02 | noiesmo | cisee, thanks |
| 01:18.04 | abrotman | su [OPTS] [-] [username [args]] |
| 01:18.08 | abrotman | from the man page |
| 01:18.47 | keyhack | abrotman: On the console it works either way |
| 01:18.58 | keyhack | abrotman: I'm rebooting and seeing if that was the problem, but that was how it was before |
| 01:19.02 | keyhack | abrotman: And it didn't work then, either |
| 01:19.04 | abrotman | keyhack: ok .. what's the error from the script ? |
| 01:19.48 | keyhack | I typed it before.. |
| 01:19.52 | keyhack | line 2: startx: command not found |
| 01:19.57 | keyhack | bash: support: command not found |
| 01:19.59 | abrotman | "source /etc/profile && export HOME=/home/nouser && source ~/.bash_profile && /usr/bin/X11/startx" |
| 01:20.19 | keyhack | well |
| 01:20.24 | keyhack | bash: nouser: command not found |
| 01:20.25 | abrotman | wtf is "support" |
| 01:20.41 | keyhack | I typed it wrong |
| 01:20.55 | keyhack | so it's those two lines |
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| 01:21.01 | Onizeth | how could i install ONLY firefox from repositories (officials or not)? |
| 01:21.03 | keyhack | support is not supposed to be a command, its supposed to be part of the su command |
| 01:21.09 | keyhack | gar, nouser i mean |
| 01:21.10 | keyhack | ;-) |
| 01:21.18 | abrotman | erm .. ok |
| 01:21.49 | noiesmo | Onizeth, you could download the firefox package from mozilla and unpack it into a directory then make a short cut to the firefox exacutable |
| 01:21.52 | abrotman | damn it .. su -c nouser "command" should work |
| 01:22.09 | Onizeth | um, ok |
| 01:22.23 | Onizeth | was it possible to change the menu in gnome 2.8? |
| 01:22.30 | keyhack | I thought it wasn't " but ` |
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| 01:22.33 | noiesmo | Onizeth, soz thats not thru a repos but ill get u the latest version thats what ive currently done |
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| 01:22.45 | Onizeth | yes, i have already tried |
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| 01:22.55 | noiesmo | Onizeth, there is also debian backports |
| 01:22.56 | Onizeth | but the problem is the integration with the rest of the system |
| 01:23.20 | Onizeth | but it's a way of solving it, of course ;) |
| 01:23.22 | figc | can I post ubuntu questions here? |
| 01:23.23 | kipu | Hello, on mandiva there is a graphical package installer. I installed Debian and there is no such thing. Also, how do I setup debian to get package fro, the internet? |
| 01:23.34 | kspath | abrotman: does Ruby not know the difference between capitalize and intial capitalize? |
| 01:23.58 | abrotman | keyhack: i checked old stuff from a Solaris box .. i have `su username -c "command"` |
| 01:23.59 | noiesmo | kipu, do you have a desktop ie kde gnome |
| 01:24.08 | kipu | yes I run kde |
| 01:24.14 | abrotman | kspath: i don't know ruby .. i just read the guide because i was bored :) |
| 01:24.17 | Onizeth | um, by the way, is it possible right now graphic programming in ruby? |
| 01:24.19 | kspath | abrotman: I am guessing you did not write that guide you recommended... |
| 01:24.25 | abrotman | kspath: no way :) |
| 01:24.26 | kspath | abrotman: ahhh |
| 01:24.31 | Fluten | can i convert my reiserfs partition back to ext3/2? |
| 01:24.32 | abrotman | kipu: apt-get install synaptic |
| 01:24.36 | Fluten | or do i have to reformat? |
| 01:24.36 | abrotman | Fluten: no |
| 01:24.39 | noiesmo | kipu, go to system in k menu there is synaptic package manager |
| 01:24.46 | elesouef | Hi all, I have a problem with apache using high CPU (with phpmyadmin). phpsysinfo works well. Anyone got an idea ? |
| 01:24.55 | noiesmo | kipu, its a gui for apt |
| 01:25.05 | kipu | Package synaptic is not available |
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| 01:25.12 | abrotman | kipu: are you running etch ? |
| 01:25.28 | Fluten | is etch short for etch-a-sketch? |
| 01:25.33 | abrotman | !etch |
| 01:25.34 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, etch is the codename for the Debian release to follow sarge, currently testing. see http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/ . Installation CDs, other media, and everything else you'll need are available from our web site, http://www.nl.debian.org/devel/debian-installer. |
| 01:25.37 | keyhack | abrotman: Uhh, doesn't `` in a bash script evaluates things? |
| 01:25.49 | kipu | ok kâcakge |
| 01:25.50 | abrotman | keyhack: ignore the ` .. that was just so you knew i was quoting :) |
| 01:25.54 | figc | can anyone tell me how to change my video display after installing a new LCD monitor? |
| 01:26.04 | kipu | sorry: kpackage |
| 01:26.13 | abrotman | !drxx figc |
| 01:26.13 | dpkg | figc: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 01:26.33 | keyhack | abrotman: I know, forget it |
| 01:26.45 | kipu | with kapackage how do I get packages from the net? |
| 01:27.43 | noiesmo | kipu, go to settings then configure kpackage |
| 01:27.51 | noiesmo | kipu, in kpackage that is |
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| 01:28.20 | kipu | what is the remote server? |
| 01:28.26 | abrotman | !tell plastik about knoppix |
| 01:28.33 | figc | dpkg: thanks, it actually xserver-xorg |
| 01:28.34 | dpkg | figc: my pleasure |
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| 01:28.42 | abrotman | figc: the factoid says that |
| 01:29.40 | figc | abrotman: sorry not sure what a factoid is.....but I get your meaning.... |
| 01:29.42 | keyhack | abrotman: Thanks for the help, finally works, just gotta figure out how to disable the cursor ;-) |
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| 01:30.21 | kipu | Kdevelop is not available from the package gui |
| 01:30.25 | noiesmo | kipu, if you look at aPT:debian location of packages it should list debian repos if not u need to edit your sources.list and add debian repos too it |
| 01:30.25 | abrotman | keyhack: probably an option to startx .. though i don't know it |
| 01:30.40 | abrotman | figc: i triggeered dpkg to say !drxx figc .. dpkg is a bot :) |
| 01:30.48 | kipu | <noiesmo> thanks |
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| 01:31.25 | kipu | what about kdevelop. Is there any other IDE for debian and C/C++? |
| 01:31.29 | abrotman | anjuta |
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| 01:31.59 | keyhack | abrotman: *sigh*, now I can't Alt-F2 and whatnot to get to other login screens |
| 01:32.03 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 01:32.03 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 01:32.10 | keyhack | F1 is my bootup stuff (which fired X), and F2 is X itself now |
| 01:32.14 | jetscreamer | ctrl alt f2 from gui |
| 01:32.29 | jetscreamer | or f whatever |
| 01:32.30 | abrotman | keyhack: does the keyboard work at all? |
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| 01:32.31 | kipu | anjuta? |
| 01:32.35 | abrotman | jetscreamer!!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 01:32.38 | keyhack | abrotman: Um yeah |
| 01:32.41 | abrotman | !info anjuta etch |
| 01:32.42 | jetscreamer | hey abrotman sup |
| 01:32.47 | dpkg | anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1+b1 (etch), Packaged size: 893 kB, Installed size: 1980 kB |
| 01:32.55 | abrotman | jetscreamer: where'd you come form ? |
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| 01:33.01 | jetscreamer | work |
| 01:33.06 | abrotman | duh |
| 01:33.07 | jetscreamer | i put autojoin back on |
| 01:33.09 | kipu | anjuta is not available from the gui |
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| 01:33.18 | abrotman | it should be |
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| 01:33.24 | kipu | how do anjuta compare to kdevelop? |
| 01:33.28 | abrotman | keyhack: i had a problem like that for a while |
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| 01:33.36 | jetscreamer | kipu: you can start it from an xterm |
| 01:33.39 | abrotman | kipu: dunno .. afaict .. KDE is a pile of crap .. i don't use kdevelop |
| 01:33.55 | kipu | anjuta not available. Im in KDE does this change anything? |
| 01:34.02 | abrotman | kipu: apt-get install anjuta |
| 01:34.09 | jetscreamer | that might help |
| 01:34.12 | jetscreamer | if needed |
| 01:34.16 | keyhack | abrotman: I'm giving up, I'm stressing out and going to explode |
| 01:34.17 | De_Mon | how do I find out which dist my packages are installed from? |
| 01:34.23 | abrotman | keyhack: oh .. don't do that :) |
| 01:34.27 | kipu | <abrotman> ok |
| 01:34.34 | abrotman | De_Mon: apt-cache policy package |
| 01:34.36 | jetscreamer | less /etc/apt/sources.list De_Mon |
| 01:34.36 | De_Mon | most are sarge but I know 3-4 are from etch |
| 01:34.41 | kipu | E: Couldn't find package anjuta |
| 01:34.52 | abrotman | kipu: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 01:34.54 | De_Mon | abrotman can I get a dpkg list of all the packages? |
| 01:34.54 | keyhack | abrotman: well, how do I fix this then? I can't get to any text console to do anything |
| 01:35.14 | jetscreamer | keyhack: can you get an xterm? |
| 01:35.15 | kipu | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 01:35.19 | abrotman | keyhack: ctrl-alt-bksp |
| 01:35.30 | abrotman | kipu: then you should have anjuta |
| 01:35.37 | De_Mon | jetscreamer that woln't do it |
| 01:35.42 | kipu | E: Couldn't find package anjuta |
| 01:35.49 | abrotman | kipu: apt-get update |
| 01:35.58 | abrotman | apt-setup |
| 01:36.00 | abrotman | apt-get update |
| 01:36.05 | abrotman | apt-get install anjuta |
| 01:36.11 | kipu | anjuta: command not found |
| 01:36.19 | abrotman | oh ffs |
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| 01:36.58 | abrotman | jetscreamer: see what you missed? :) |
| 01:37.07 | jetscreamer | wheeeeeeee |
| 01:37.12 | noiesmo | kipu, try apt-cache search anjuta see whats listed |
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| 01:37.28 | Fluten | if i play a video in mplayer, and at the same time do a cat /dev/urandom >> /dev/null in a terminal, the video gets really choppy and the sound goes out of sync. when i do the same on a slower xp system, the sound stays in sync and doesnt get choppy. what could be causing this? |
| 01:37.48 | jetscreamer | De_Mon: do you mean you want a list of installed packages? dpkg --get-selections > selections.txt |
| 01:38.13 | abrotman | jetscreamer: now bring back fieldy! |
| 01:38.15 | figc | how can I change my monitor config after installing a new LCD monitor when the monitor says "Input device not supported" on bootup? |
| 01:38.26 | jetscreamer | is it ajunta? |
| 01:38.45 | keyhack | abrotman: lol, and "reboot" doesn't reboot either, I end up back in X |
| 01:38.53 | abrotman | wtf is reboot ? |
| 01:38.59 | keyhack | abrotman: It reboots, lol |
| 01:38.59 | Fluten | er, forgot to mention that the video gets choppy on a 64 bit athlon cpu, and not choppy on athlon xp, better read my posts before i press enter |
| 01:39.02 | abrotman | keyhack: because that command still gets run |
| 01:39.12 | abrotman | keyhack: it's supposed to "crash" the X server |
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| 01:39.25 | kipu | ok for anjuta. installation done. Thanks |
| 01:39.30 | keyhack | abrotman: You are saying the shutdown script has my launch script in it? |
| 01:39.38 | abrotman | i should hope not |
| 01:39.41 | abrotman | oh wait . it might |
| 01:39.44 | jetscreamer | kipu: update-menus if you don't see it. |
| 01:39.46 | keyhack | abrotman: Well, apparently it does. |
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| 01:40.06 | abrotman | keyhack: what was thename of your script ? |
| 01:40.12 | keyhack | launchMV |
| 01:40.45 | abrotman | keyhack: look in /etc/rc6.d/ and /etc/rc0.d/ .. do you see S99launchMV ? or something like that ? |
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| 01:40.52 | DoM | hi all |
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| 01:41.08 | linuxddr_sempron | hi |
| 01:41.13 | linuxddr_sempron | needing help |
| 01:41.17 | abrotman | more? |
| 01:41.20 | linuxddr_sempron | yes |
| 01:41.23 | linuxddr_sempron | with my xfree |
| 01:41.24 | keyhack | abrotman: yes, in both |
| 01:41.31 | DoM | where can i find a legend about dpkg list packages like ii apache, rc postfix and so on ? |
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| 01:41.52 | abrotman | keyhack: until you can get your script working correctly .. update-rc.d -f launchMV remove |
| 01:42.00 | keyhack | abrotman: My script works fine now |
| 01:42.13 | linuxddr_sempron | i installed xfree86 and my videocard is 6600 gt i chosed the driver nv and when i do startx it says failed.. no screens found |
| 01:42.13 | DoM | i mean i need to know what does it mean ii rc etc .. |
| 01:42.22 | linuxddr_sempron | and i have kde installed |
| 01:42.25 | abrotman | keyhack: that will kill all the automagic stuff for the script .. and once you get the stuff working correctly .. you can add it bakc in |
| 01:42.27 | linuxddr_sempron | suposed to start |
| 01:42.35 | abrotman | linuxddr_sempron: look for EE lines |
| 01:42.42 | linuxddr_sempron | ee? |
| 01:42.49 | abrotman | DoM: package removed .. conf files remain |
| 01:42.51 | abrotman | EE lines |
| 01:42.58 | linuxddr_sempron | o ok |
| 01:42.59 | linuxddr_sempron | hehe |
| 01:43.04 | figc | I installed a new lcd, when I boot up the machine, "device not supported" accross screen...how do I change it?? |
| 01:43.07 | bucky | linuxddr_sempron: /msg dpkg drx |
| 01:43.08 | linuxddr_sempron | ill redo it and be back with my error |
| 01:43.16 | DoM | abrotman, where can i find a legend about all that comment ? |
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| 01:43.26 | keyhack | abrotman: The script works fine |
| 01:43.32 | keyhack | abrotman: I need it to stop running on shutdown |
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| 01:43.44 | abrotman | keyhack: i thought you couldn't ctrl-alt-f1 from X ? |
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| 01:44.09 | linuxddr_sempron | how to a exit irssi-text for my console ?? |
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| 01:44.10 | sov | have had a VFS kernel panic with a 2.6 kernel: cannot find the root device |
| 01:44.11 | keyhack | abrotman: Just tell me how to make it so it doesn't run on shut down |
| 01:44.17 | Matt-H | keyhack: have you got a 'case "$1"' in to see if 'start' or 'stop's is being passed? |
| 01:44.28 | croddy | firefox segfaulting on startup, amd64, anyone? |
| 01:44.28 | bucky | linuxddr_sempron: /quit |
| 01:44.31 | linuxddr_sempron | thanks |
| 01:44.33 | linuxddr_sempron | :) |
| 01:44.37 | abrotman | keyhack: well . if that's the case .. just remove the S99launchMV from /etc/rc6.d/ and /etc/rc0.d/ |
| 01:44.48 | abrotman | croddy: sounds like everyone else |
| 01:44.53 | croddy | thanks |
| 01:44.56 | abrotman | Matt-H: no .. really generic script |
| 01:45.14 | abrotman | Matt-H: that was tomorrow's lesson :) |
| 01:45.19 | sov | the 2.4.27 kernel finds the same device |
| 01:45.20 | Onizeth | how should i set up fstab in order to let any user mount an ntfs filesystem in read only mode? |
| 01:45.33 | jetscreamer | sov: frequently initrd related |
| 01:45.37 | figc | how to install an LCD monitor?? |
| 01:45.38 | sov | do 2.6.15 kernels have a new way of specifying the root device? |
| 01:45.40 | Onizeth | i have tried, but nobody apart from root can mount it |
| 01:45.42 | abrotman | croddy: check the bts . or ask #debian-amd64 |
| 01:45.54 | sov | i'm not using initrd |
| 01:45.55 | jetscreamer | !initrd |
| 01:45.55 | dpkg | somebody said initrd was initial root disk. initial RAM disk, or god's way of punishing you for using a prebuilt kernel image, or ...And you WILL HAVE TO INCLUDE AN INITRD STATEMENT IN YOUR BOOTLOADER (hint, hint). Typically if you can't find your root filesystem, this is your problem. or a great system for those who understand modulesneed/want root in lvm and/or md raid. http://everything2.com/index.pl?node_id=1476230 |
| 01:46.05 | jetscreamer | where did you get the kernel |
| 01:46.14 | noiesmo | Onizeth, look at umask and umask the partition in fstab |
| 01:46.28 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you know .. self compiled |
| 01:46.29 | sov | from kernel.org |
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| 01:46.34 | jetscreamer | !ro-ntfs |
| 01:46.34 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
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| 01:46.52 | noiesmo | !tell Onizeth about umask |
| 01:46.53 | Onizeth | um, ok, i will take a look |
| 01:47.03 | jetscreamer | sov: you didn't compile some modules in that you need then |
| 01:47.07 | Matt-H | figc: what's saying device not supported? the monitor itself or is it appearing in the signal sent by the PC? |
| 01:47.11 | sov | the problem isnt in the fstab cos the kernel doesn't get tht far |
| 01:47.45 | Onizeth | uh? |
| 01:47.55 | Onizeth | what do you mean sov? |
| 01:48.09 | jetscreamer | oh. why is ntfs compiled with rw in stock kernels nowadays. |
| 01:48.19 | figc | Matt: when machine boots, monitor is saying that |
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| 01:48.29 | Onizeth | i try to mount it read only |
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| 01:48.34 | Onizeth | but it fails unless you are root |
| 01:48.38 | abrotman | jetscreamer: stupidity? |
| 01:48.56 | jetscreamer | unless ntfs actually functions well |
| 01:49.04 | TriKster-Abacus | I don't dare touch my ntfs partitions |
| 01:49.09 | jetscreamer | me neither |
| 01:49.18 | TriKster-Abacus | but then again, I am never root either |
| 01:49.20 | jetscreamer | i've accidentally chowned them |
| 01:49.24 | abrotman | hehe |
| 01:49.27 | TriKster-Abacus | rofl |
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| 01:49.30 | noiesmo | Onizeth, /dev/hda1 /windows/programs ntfs umask=000,auto,user,ro,noexec 0 0 |
| 01:49.40 | phogg | jetscreamer: I hear ntfs write now works, but you can't create new files or create directories. |
| 01:49.41 | keyhack | abrotman: This bootup script has caused nothing but problems for my system, now I cannot FTP in, I get an error message telling me my system is in the bootup process and to wait and try again later |
| 01:49.44 | keyhack | lol |
| 01:49.48 | Matt-H | figc: was trying to decide if it was a refresh frequency that the monitor can't support (therefore "input not supported") or not. If it is, you'd need to alter your X config (if it is the refresh frequency at fault and it gets to X) to be correct for your new monitor |
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| 01:50.03 | abrotman | keyhack: oh .. that's very odd |
| 01:50.06 | jetscreamer | cool |
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| 01:50.16 | abrotman | keyhack: try putting an & after the last " in your su -c command |
| 01:50.21 | karsten | Where are Debian's groups defined? Policy or elsewhere? |
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| 01:50.28 | Onizeth | i don't work noiesmo |
| 01:50.29 | keyhack | abrotman: Ok |
| 01:50.30 | Onizeth | the same error |
| 01:50.50 | Matt-H | karsten: /etc/group |
| 01:51.11 | figc | Matt: how would I do that while monitor is still connected to computer?? It doesn't display anything?? |
| 01:51.29 | Matt-H | figc: not even the initial stuff the BIOS outputs? |
| 01:51.46 | karsten | Matt-H: No duh. I mean, where is it stated that video == GID 44, and that that's reserved by Debian? |
| 01:52.00 | noiesmo | Onizeth, check this http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Mount_MS_Windows_partitions_(FAT,NTFS)#user.2C_users:_let_users_mount_and_unmount |
| 01:52.03 | Onizeth | uh |
| 01:52.04 | Onizeth | sorry |
| 01:52.07 | Onizeth | it works now |
| 01:52.18 | fusion | hi, I'm trying to install jre on sarge, I tried to follow a debian howto online but it doesnt appear to work.. instead it says no matching plugin found, and aborts..has anyone had success with it? |
| 01:52.19 | Onizeth | i didn't unmount the volume before |
| 01:52.25 | noiesmo | hehe |
| 01:52.32 | Onizeth | so the problem was only the umask? |
| 01:52.34 | Onizeth | god |
| 01:52.50 | Onizeth | i didn't even know i could set up umask from fstab XD |
| 01:52.52 | karsten | !tell fusion about java |
| 01:53.03 | noiesmo | Onizeth, you do now |
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| 01:53.15 | jetscreamer | fusion: i read a howto about symlinking the plugin to an ff plugin subdir, iirc... all i remember though |
| 01:53.16 | noiesmo | Onizeth, isnt it fun |
| 01:53.19 | jetscreamer | and did it |
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| 01:53.29 | jetscreamer | it worked |
| 01:53.50 | karsten | Onizeth: Only IIUC for filesystems which don't have their own node-based support for umasks. So you apply umask globally to the whole filesystem. Eg: FAT / vfat, etc. |
| 01:53.51 | Onizeth | well... it's fun if you discover it while you don't really need it |
| 01:53.54 | ausar | does anyone know how i can get a display with debian in vmware? |
| 01:54.11 | karsten | ausar: Define your guest and host. |
| 01:54.18 | fusion | I have already followed those instructions, karsten :< |
| 01:54.27 | Onizeth | ok |
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| 01:54.29 | Onizeth | thanks |
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| 01:54.32 | linuxddr_semrpon | hi its me ! |
| 01:54.33 | linuxddr_semrpon | hehe |
| 01:54.40 | abrotman | we can tell |
| 01:54.43 | jetscreamer | where |
| 01:54.53 | linuxddr_semrpon | ive got the EE lines and its:no devices found |
| 01:54.54 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you came back! |
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| 01:55.03 | jetscreamer | i never left |
| 01:55.14 | ausar | vmware is the guest where i have debian, windows xp pro is the host |
| 01:55.16 | jetscreamer | i've been here 1 year solid, as jetscreamer |
| 01:55.21 | keyhack | abrotman: Now the next task is to get sound to work |
| 01:55.23 | linuxddr_semrpon | after its wroten:fatal error:no screens found |
| 01:55.34 | abrotman | keyhack: uname -a |
| 01:55.46 | keyhack | abrotman: 2.6.12 |
| 01:55.58 | ausar | karsten did you see my response? |
| 01:56.01 | karsten | ausar: Tell us what you're using for host and guest. |
| 01:56.16 | karsten | ausar: OK. |
| 01:56.22 | jetscreamer | linuxddr_semrpon: you 'probably' need to set your monitors refresh rates properly... do dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whatever and choose medium when it asks |
| 01:56.23 | linuxddr_semrpon | can i get help?? |
| 01:56.24 | linuxddr_semrpon | okkk |
| 01:56.27 | jetscreamer | no |
| 01:56.28 | ausar | xp pro is the host, debian is the guest |
| 01:56.28 | linuxddr_semrpon | hee |
| 01:56.34 | abrotman | keyhack: is your user in the audio group ? |
| 01:56.34 | linuxddr_semrpon | thanks |
| 01:56.40 | linuxddr_semrpon | ill try this |
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| 01:56.48 | keyhack | abrotman: hmm, probably not |
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| 01:57.05 | abrotman | good place to start |
| 01:57.13 | karsten | ausar: VMWare should provide you with a virtual system on which you can run X. Last time I tried it, there were some virtual drivers for additional performance, and I think you install those in the guest *and* host. |
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| 01:57.33 | keyhack | abrotman: How do I add it to the group? |
| 01:57.38 | ausar | how do i do that karsten? |
| 01:57.42 | jetscreamer | adduser user audio |
| 01:57.44 | karsten | ausar: ... alternatively, you can export your X session to WinXP via an X server (XMing, Cygwin, etc.) and run it that way. |
| 01:57.52 | jetscreamer | and when they log in next |
| 01:57.53 | karsten | ausar: RTF VMWare D |
| 01:57.55 | jetscreamer | bingo |
| 01:58.05 | karsten | ausar: ... they should have this well documented. |
| 01:58.14 | ausar | do i have to download anything from their site? |
| 01:58.21 | karsten | ausar: Within Debian, just install the relevant X packages. |
| 01:58.23 | karsten | ausar: Yes. |
| 01:58.33 | karsten | ausar: The instructions, for starters. |
| 01:58.37 | ausar | ok |
| 01:58.40 | ausar | brb |
| 01:58.50 | karsten | !tell ausar about set up x |
| 01:59.14 | fusion | Can anyone help me with installing JRE on sarge? I tried the way suggested by dpkg (twice now) and it has the same result (aborts after an error saying no matching plugin) |
| 01:59.25 | keyhack | abrotman: looks like it belongs to the audio group, now what? |
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| 02:00.23 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 02:00.23 | dpkg | somebody said alsa one-liner was apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
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| 02:01.08 | tengulre11 | hi,all! |
| 02:01.35 | figc | Matt-H : yes BIOS output is seen.....after a couple of seconds nothing appears |
| 02:01.46 | ausar | i can't get kde or gnome on debian in vmware |
| 02:01.49 | elliotf | Hello, I have some questions regarding redistribution of Debian in an appliance, and what would be required of me in order to conform to the licenses included in Debian. |
| 02:02.10 | elliotf | Would this be a question that would be better posed to debian-lega? |
| 02:02.15 | abrotman | elliotf: maybe better to send an email to debian-legal |
| 02:02.17 | elliotf | :) |
| 02:02.20 | elliotf | fair enough, then. |
| 02:02.24 | tengulre11 | my company have 1 debian machine! running Game service, Web services and DataBase service, how to split it? |
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| 02:02.27 | abrotman | or debian-user |
| 02:02.31 | elliotf | abrotman: thank you, that's what I was expecting. |
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| 02:02.43 | jetscreamer | split? |
| 02:02.53 | keyhack | abrotman: Isn't there a console-based mixer application? |
| 02:02.56 | abrotman | elliotf: afaik .. the only thing you might have to do is release changes to any source if the package is GPL |
| 02:03.05 | keyhack | abrotman: I also have onboard audio, and a sound card |
| 02:03.05 | abrotman | keyhack: alsamixer |
| 02:03.12 | keyhack | abrotman: I do hear a "pop" during bootup |
| 02:03.17 | elliotf | abrotman: just wondering if there was a resource/page for topics like this, I could not find any such information on the www.debian.org/legal page |
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| 02:03.31 | keyhack | abrotman: How can I tell what sound its running? Alsa vs other types? |
| 02:03.32 | figc | shit...I just unplugged old monitor and plugged in LCD and the LCD works...I'm typing to you fine folks right now! |
| 02:03.45 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 02:03.48 | elliotf | abortman: I believe I need to distribute the source of any GPL software, regardless of changes or no? but that is something I will let the lawyers handle. |
| 02:03.57 | elliotf | abrotman: thank you for your responses. |
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| 02:04.31 | NOthsouth | what repos. can I find openoffice2 ? |
| 02:04.32 | linuxddr_sempron | hehe im back |
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| 02:04.52 | linuxddr_sempron | and ive redid the dpkg.. propt and same error |
| 02:04.56 | mith | Elliotf: if you've not made changes you don't have to distribute anything so long as you inform your users where it can be obtained. However, if that source ever 'drys up' so to speak, then you would need to provide source on request. Also, iinal |
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| 02:05.36 | abrotman | linuxddr_sempron: paste your X log somewhere |
| 02:05.37 | abrotman | !paste |
| 02:05.37 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 02:05.43 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, what u running stable unstable |
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| 02:05.54 | linuxddr_sempron | ok |
| 02:05.55 | linuxddr_sempron | and how |
| 02:05.56 | Matt-H | !u# |
| 02:05.57 | jetscreamer | linuxddr_sempron: you chose medium, and are you sure you chose a refreshrate that your monitor supports? |
| 02:05.57 | Matt-H | !u |
| 02:05.58 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 02:06.02 | linuxddr_sempron | to copy it and paste it |
| 02:06.08 | jetscreamer | yes log |
| 02:06.10 | linuxddr_sempron | yess ive choosed 60 hertz |
| 02:06.20 | linuxddr_sempron | and my screen support it |
| 02:06.26 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, i`m on sarge |
| 02:06.27 | linuxddr_sempron | when i was on windows xp it was working |
| 02:06.31 | linuxddr_sempron | on 60 hertz |
| 02:06.31 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main and deb ftp://ftp.tux.org/java/debian/ sarge non-free |
| 02:06.48 | jetscreamer | log |
| 02:06.50 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, thx :) |
| 02:06.50 | linuxddr_sempron | but can i paste my log ? |
| 02:06.55 | linuxddr_sempron | abortman |
| 02:07.04 | jetscreamer | !tell linuxddr_sempron about paste |
| 02:07.08 | linuxddr_sempron | thanks |
| 02:07.09 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, you need the to ^^ repos one for openoffice and on for java component |
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| 02:07.32 | Nerissa | the VFS msg: Kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(3,2) |
| 02:07.46 | keyhack | Does anyone know of a text-based audio mixer program? (And what package it's in?) |
| 02:07.57 | keyhack | Nerissa: Had that exact error earlier today |
| 02:07.58 | Nerissa | Why does the 2.4 kernel boot and the 2.6 not? |
| 02:08.19 | linuxddr_sempron | well |
| 02:08.20 | jetscreamer | frequently initrd related |
| 02:08.26 | linuxddr_sempron | what do i do now? |
| 02:08.38 | linuxddr_sempron | if xfree dosent see my screen? |
| 02:08.40 | Nerissa | yes, bog standard |
| 02:08.42 | jetscreamer | linuxddr_sempron: paste the log in a pastebin |
| 02:08.43 | Xenguy | linuxddr_sempron: just got here - what is the general problem? |
| 02:08.47 | bucky | alsamixer in alsa-utils or aumix if you're using oss keyhack |
| 02:08.59 | keyhack | bucky: How do I tell which I am using? lol |
| 02:09.05 | jetscreamer | !tell linuxddr_sempron about paster |
| 02:09.10 | dephi | Nerissa: sata drive? |
| 02:09.20 | Nerissa | dephi: no, IDE |
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| 02:09.33 | abrotman | !alsa one-liner |
| 02:09.33 | dpkg | well, alsa one-liner is apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf, or if you are running a 2.4 kernel ask me about <2.4 alsa one-liner>, or after its installed, run alsamixer and unmute the volume levels |
| 02:09.36 | keyhack | Nerissa: By default, IDE is built as a Module and not into the kernel |
| 02:09.38 | linuxddr_sempron | Xenguy: i get an error when i try to start my xfree startx |
| 02:09.44 | bucky | keyhack: if you didn't run alsaconf then it might be using oss as default |
| 02:09.46 | linuxddr_sempron | but ok ill try to put it in my paster |
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| 02:09.56 | keyhack | bucky: Which is better? |
| 02:10.12 | bucky | which ever one you have installed right now |
| 02:10.21 | Nerissa | keyhack: but I put into the kernel because the 2 drives are always there |
| 02:10.32 | keyhack | Nerissa: It needs to be <*> and not <M> |
| 02:10.51 | Nerissa | keyhack: what? |
| 02:10.54 | archie | hello i have a fast1500 AP and a ipw2200 notebook.. and i wanted to make a bridge between both..but doesn't work, any clues ? |
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| 02:11.27 | keyhack | bucky: I just installed alsa-base, sucks, it didn't seem to find either of my audio cards |
| 02:11.28 | deadcat | archie: show the commands. |
| 02:12.08 | Nerissa | the 2.6.15 kernel compiled ok and lilo looks ok (certainly loads the kernel) |
| 02:12.12 | bucky | keyhack: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 02:13.08 | archie | deadcat, brctl addbr br0 |
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| 02:13.21 | archie | deadcat, brctl addif br0 eth0 |
| 02:13.23 | archie | deadcat, brctl addif br0 eth1 |
| 02:13.24 | deadcat | archie: use a paste bin |
| 02:13.27 | Nerissa | what about the audio chip on an ASUS P4P800SE? |
| 02:13.36 | archie | deadcat, ??? paste bin ? |
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| 02:13.48 | linuxddr_sempron | okk |
| 02:13.50 | linuxddr_sempron | i tried |
| 02:13.53 | linuxddr_sempron | with paste |
| 02:13.55 | linuxddr_sempron | and not working |
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| 02:14.09 | keyhack | bucky: Hmm, I don't think either was installed, so I installed alsa |
| 02:14.10 | Nerissa | my 2.4.27 kernel with i810 finds it but i cant get output from the sockets |
| 02:14.12 | linuxddr_sempron | but how do i put my xfree log in my paster ? |
| 02:14.22 | linuxddr_sempron | !tell linuxddr_sempron paster |
| 02:14.23 | jetscreamer | linuxddr_sempron: well read the log and type the errors in the pastebin |
| 02:14.33 | archie | deadcat, paste is a software ? |
| 02:14.35 | linuxddr_sempron | whats the pastebin? |
| 02:14.42 | linuxddr_sempron | thats what i want to knwo |
| 02:14.43 | linuxddr_sempron | lol |
| 02:14.48 | linuxddr_sempron | !tell linuxddr_sempron pastebin |
| 02:14.50 | jetscreamer | !paster |
| 02:14.50 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 02:14.50 | deadcat | archie: /topic |
| 02:14.50 | Matt-H | !tell archie about paste |
| 02:15.00 | odla | deadcat: do you want a screenshot of the best wm ever? |
| 02:15.07 | kartoo | When I try to use lftp for ssl/tls login, it shows an error like "Login failed: 550 SSL/TLS required on the control channel" |
| 02:15.13 | deadcat | odla: yes sir (= |
| 02:15.17 | kartoo | what package do i need to install? |
| 02:15.22 | linuxddr_sempron | cause i cant do nothing im on the mod console of debian |
| 02:15.26 | linuxddr_sempron | no xfree |
| 02:15.27 | linuxddr_sempron | no kde |
| 02:15.27 | odla | deadcat: equipped with warp4 theme |
| 02:15.28 | linuxddr_sempron | nothing |
| 02:15.30 | linuxddr_sempron | hehe |
| 02:15.30 | linuxddr_sempron | :P |
| 02:15.41 | Matt-H | linuxddr_sempron: use #flood then :-) |
| 02:15.49 | linuxddr_sempron | :) |
| 02:15.50 | keyhack | bucky: So I should try to install OSS instead? |
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| 02:16.11 | bucky | keyhack: did you read the factoid? |
| 02:16.17 | bucky | keyhack: /msg dpkg alsa |
| 02:16.19 | keyhack | bucky: Yeah, I'm not sure if I'm running woody or not |
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| 02:16.51 | kartoo | !dpkg tls |
| 02:16.51 | dpkg | rumour has it, tls is Transport Layer Security (ssl), or Thread-Local Storage, or in polish, TrzyLiterowy Skrot, translated to ThreeLetter Acronym |
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| 02:16.55 | linuxddr_sempron | ill try a thing and be back |
| 02:17.07 | keyhack | bucky: Also, the page doesn't tell you how to install OSS, just alsa |
| 02:17.10 | odla | i don't know where i can upload it to |
| 02:17.25 | deadcat | odla: dont you have a webserver running? |
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| 02:17.34 | deadcat | odla: try lynucs.org |
| 02:17.36 | odla | deadcat: nope |
| 02:17.44 | bucky | keyhack: if you know which driver you need for your sound card you can just load the oss driver and it should work |
| 02:17.57 | keyhack | bucky: Ok, so how do I install OSS then? |
| 02:18.01 | kartoo | !dpkg ssl |
| 02:18.01 | dpkg | hmm... secure sockets layer is (SSL) This is a protocol specified by Netscape that allows for "secure" passage of data. It uses public key encryption, including digital certificates and digital signatures, to pass data between a browser and a server, or more generally, all sorts of network clients and the respective servers. It is an open standard and most modern browsers support it. |
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| 02:18.23 | bucky | keyhack: which sound card do you have? |
| 02:18.35 | keyhack | SoundBlaster Live |
| 02:18.59 | bucky | keyhack: modprobe emu10k1 |
| 02:19.02 | kartoo | !dpkg tls package |
| 02:19.26 | keyhack | bucky: I just installed the alsa packages though, is that going to cause a problem now? |
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| 02:19.59 | bucky | keyhack: did you run alsaconf like the fine manual said in the link that dpkg showed you? |
| 02:20.16 | archie | deadcat, it's only tiny bridge command.. i am not sure.. you can do some bridging with AP.. http://channels.debian.net/paste/1551 |
| 02:20.17 | keyhack | bucky: Yeah, I did |
| 02:20.36 | bucky | keyhack: then run alsamixer and turn the volume up |
| 02:20.44 | keyhack | bucky: I said before that it found no cards |
| 02:20.45 | odla | http://www.lynucs.org/index.php?screen_id=136818183543c85ff611b33&p=screen |
| 02:20.53 | odla | icewm...the coolest wm out there |
| 02:20.57 | bucky | keyhack: then i guess your screwed |
| 02:21.07 | deadcat | archie: ya. but once you do that. your iwconfig commands will be confused. since its now br0 |
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| 02:21.25 | keyhack | bucky: Gee, thanks. |
| 02:21.37 | Nerissa | anybody managed to get madwifi working with a debian-packaged kernel? |
| 02:21.39 | noiesmo | isn t it snd-emu10k1 |
| 02:21.44 | deadcat | odla: gnome? i use gdeskcal too. used to use idesk |
| 02:21.50 | keyhack | modprobe found it, and didn't complain, so emu10k1 worked |
| 02:22.00 | bucky | noiesmo: emu10k1 is oss |
| 02:22.06 | odla | deadcat: i use icewm |
| 02:22.11 | deadcat | odla: i think its UGLY (= |
| 02:22.13 | odla | i thought it was asking for th DE i use |
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| 02:22.35 | Nerissa | keyhack: does that mean u are leaving? |
| 02:22.36 | archie | deadcat, eth2 managed by iwconfig command is supposed to be bridged by br0 according to 'brctl addif br0 eth2' |
| 02:22.38 | noiesmo | bucky, aah k |
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| 02:22.48 | keyhack | Nerissa: Why, I already told you what to do |
| 02:23.05 | keyhack | bucky: So what exactly am I suppose to do now then |
| 02:23.10 | Nerissa | keyhack: but i didn't understand |
| 02:23.25 | keyhack | Nerissa: I told you to make sure that IDE is built into your 2.6 kernel, and that its not marked to be a module |
| 02:23.40 | Nerissa | keyhack: I already do that |
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| 02:23.46 | bucky | keyhack: lsmod and see if you have both oss emu10k1 and alsa snd-emu10k1 loaded.. if you do then you screwed up |
| 02:23.46 | keyhack | Nerissa: I'm not sure that you did |
| 02:23.51 | deadcat | odla: take a look at fbpanel.sf.net |
| 02:24.14 | Nerissa | keyhack: u r quite right. ta for your advice. bye |
| 02:24.21 | asdfasdfasdf | estou tentando copiar arquivos de um hd pro outro, mas os arquivos com nomes acentuados nao estao indo.. alguem me fala como resolvo? |
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| 02:24.27 | karsten | Anyone know where ircd-hybrid thinks it's putting its logs? |
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| 02:24.56 | keyhack | bucky: no alsa nor oss listed |
| 02:25.10 | deadcat | karsten: came back from macworld with a friend. nothing good except the LCDs on the display (= |
| 02:25.17 | bucky | keyhack: did you run alsaconf as su ? |
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| 02:25.28 | odla | deadcat: it's a nice looking panel |
| 02:25.34 | keyhack | bucky: Yes, then it says it unloads everything, then finds no cards, then it no longer shows up in lsmod |
| 02:25.41 | jetscreamer | !br |
| 02:25.41 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 02:25.48 | karsten | deadcat: You missed the workout chick then. |
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| 02:26.16 | deadcat | karsten: they ok. tons of girls at my college looks better than them(= |
| 02:26.29 | bucky | keyhack: you don't have an integrated sound enabled in the bios or something? |
| 02:26.32 | deadcat | odla: now i only use part of fbpanel. the pager and the clock hehe |
| 02:26.34 | archie | deadcat, http://channels.debian.net/paste/1552 |
| 02:26.34 | karsten | deadcat: share! |
| 02:26.44 | karsten | deadcat: ... I'll trade you a t-shirt ;-) |
| 02:26.51 | keyhack | bucky: I probably do, is that going to cause an issue even though a second card is plugged into the PCI slot? |
| 02:26.55 | deadcat | karsten: shutup. you owe me tshirt tomorrow. (= |
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| 02:26.58 | rixth | HOw can I show a list of all installed packages? |
| 02:27.03 | odla | deadcat: i like the clock and someone made a patch for the icewm panel that's similar to that pager |
| 02:27.17 | bucky | keyhack: i don't know.. might |
| 02:27.24 | karsten | rixth: dpkg --get-selectiosn |
| 02:27.29 | karsten | rixth: s/sn/ns/ |
| 02:27.30 | rixth | karsten, thanks |
| 02:27.31 | keyhack | bucky: I don't see why, modprobe finds emu10k1 just fine, I don't have OSS installed, is what I'm saying |
| 02:28.05 | bucky | keyhack: lsmod |grep emu10k1 if it's not there it didn't load "just fine" |
| 02:28.16 | keyhack | bucky: Ugh, you are not paying attention to me |
| 02:28.24 | keyhack | modprobe emu10k1, no error, says the card |
| 02:28.26 | keyhack | shows up in lsmod |
| 02:28.28 | keyhack | then I run alsaconf |
| 02:28.31 | keyhack | it says no cards were found |
| 02:28.36 | keyhack | I type lsmod, and now its gone |
| 02:28.42 | bucky | keyhack: no i like having hour long discussions with people on how to get their sound working |
| 02:28.42 | noiesmo | keyhack, what kernel u running |
| 02:28.57 | keyhack | noiesmo: 2.6.12 |
| 02:29.00 | archie | keyhack, you want alsa.. and it says no card ? |
| 02:29.10 | archie | deadcat, i gave you iwconfig .. |
| 02:29.12 | keyhack | I just want friggin audio at this point |
| 02:29.30 | deadcat | archie: sorry. i am working on q3arena |
| 02:29.35 | keyhack | I figured alsa would be more appropriate, since eventually I want multiple cards in there to stream out different audio |
| 02:29.44 | bucky | keyhack: are you even running debian? |
| 02:29.50 | keyhack | bucky: Yes |
| 02:30.01 | bucky | keyhack: which version? |
| 02:30.03 | keyhack | bucky: I didn't do the typical install |
| 02:30.10 | keyhack | bucky: testing? |
| 02:30.18 | odla | deadcat: what file manager do you use? i like emelfm |
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| 02:30.41 | deadcat | odla: rox-filer |
| 02:31.07 | bucky | keyhack: dpkg -l alsa-utils ..does it have an ii in front of it? |
| 02:31.09 | archie | keyhack, and you can't get it working, it always says.. no card for some reason ? :) |
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| 02:31.25 | archie | keyhack, half recognized somewhat ? |
| 02:31.27 | keyhack | bucky: Yes, its installed |
| 02:31.47 | keyhack | archie: At this point I don't know which way is up |
| 02:31.50 | SperMite | Devin:/usr/src# make menuconfig |
| 02:31.51 | SperMite | make: *** No rule to make target `menuconfig'. Stop. |
| 02:31.51 | SperMite | ? |
| 02:32.18 | deadcat | !ops rox is spamming |
| 02:32.19 | dpkg | Hydroxide, bob2, caphuso, dondelelcaro, doogie, eeyore-, ElectricElf, ):, helix, ljlane, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, Netsnipe, TML, walters, xk, gravity, azeem: rox is spamming |
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| 02:32.23 | archie | keyhack, could you do 'ls /dev/snd ' and see if there is anything there .. ? |
| 02:32.24 | ke6isf | SperMite: Means exactly what it says. |
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| 02:32.39 | keyhack | archie: A crapload of stuff |
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| 02:33.09 | archie | keyhack, thanks looks good from this point of view |
| 02:33.09 | keyhack | archie: hw*, midi*, pcm*, control*, seq, timer |
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| 02:33.28 | archie | keyhack, kernel config ? |
| 02:33.37 | keyhack | archie: What about it, nearly everything is marked as a module |
| 02:34.00 | noiesmo | SperMite, you need to be in the kernel 's directory u are trying to compile ie /usr/src/linux and linux is a symlink to kernel source directory |
| 02:34.05 | abrotman | keyhack: you have two sound cards .. and neither work ? |
| 02:34.19 | keyhack | abrotman: Ones on board, and the other is a card |
| 02:34.30 | keyhack | abrotman: I did a minimal install, and have been adding packages as I go |
| 02:34.31 | archie | keyhack, and dmesg | grep -i sound |
| 02:34.35 | keyhack | abrotman: So I don't know whats installed |
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| 02:34.51 | abrotman | keyhack: alsa is builtin to 2.6 .. if you run `lspci` .. do you see them both ? |
| 02:35.05 | keyhack | I'm in the middle of rebooting, give me 2 mins |
| 02:35.17 | abrotman | get a faster machine! :) |
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| 02:35.52 | keyhack | abrotman: I compiled a kernel myself |
| 02:35.55 | nceterval | I've just installed Debian and upgraded to the most recent Sid packages and I'm having a problem with xorg. When I try to log into KDE the server resets itself about half way through the splash screen. If I exit KDM and 'startx' it does the same thing. If I 'startx' as root the problem dissapears, and I can subsequently 'startx' as user as well. What could be wrong? |
| 02:36.04 | odla | i am trying to edit visudo so give user chris the right to invoke sudo shutdown -h 0 and shutdown -r |
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| 02:36.13 | odla | i can't seem to figure out how to edit it correctly |
| 02:36.19 | odla | here is what i've got so far |
| 02:36.23 | deadcat | holy hell. i am on q3 arena (= |
| 02:36.24 | abrotman | keyhack: did you include the alsa drivers? |
| 02:36.31 | abrotman | keyhack: and why did you do that ? |
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| 02:36.39 | odla | chris ALL=(ALL) ALL |
| 02:36.48 | keyhack | abrotman: To get LIRC (remember) and bootsplash |
| 02:36.49 | odla | and that doesn't give me the proper privledges |
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| 02:36.59 | abrotman | keyhack: i thought lirc only required an extra module |
| 02:37.06 | keyhack | lspci shows "Creative Labs SB Audigy LS" |
| 02:37.13 | abrotman | keyhack: bootsplash? .. but .. you don't shut it down do you ? |
| 02:37.25 | keyhack | abrotman: Where do I check for ALSA |
| 02:37.28 | dscener | i'm having trouble getting my sound to work in etch. i've installed alsa and alsa-utils, but no luck |
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| 02:37.51 | archie | keyhack, you got be sure your sound card is recongnized.. |
| 02:37.57 | noiesmo | dscener, run alsaconf |
| 02:38.03 | keyhack | archie: So how do I do that? |
| 02:38.07 | NoboruKun | I have read alot about the capibilities in fbsd which is capable of handling heavy traffic,i wonder if this is improved in debian nowadays to catch up with ? |
| 02:38.12 | dscener | noisemo: i did, but i'll try again. do you think i'll need to restart x? |
| 02:38.13 | noiesmo | dscener, does it find your card then run alsamixer |
| 02:38.16 | keyhack | abrotman: ALSA is included as modules |
| 02:38.28 | abrotman | keyhack: ah ok .. and did you load modules for it ? |
| 02:38.34 | noiesmo | dscener, no need to restart x |
| 02:38.39 | keyhack | abrotman: no one told me I had to load modules for it |
| 02:38.40 | dscener | noisemo: yes, it finds it |
| 02:38.44 | keyhack | I was told to install alsa, and run alsaconf |
| 02:38.54 | archie | keyhack, ls /proc/asound |
| 02:39.00 | noiesmo | then do alsamixer and turn it up |
| 02:39.08 | abrotman | keyhack: probably :) |
| 02:39.15 | keyhack | I can't run alsamixer, because alsaconf finds no cards |
| 02:39.22 | keyhack | so its hard to mix something when you dont have anything configured for it |
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| 02:39.31 | keyhack | archie: Ok, I see a bunch of stuff |
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| 02:39.45 | noiesmo | dscener, then do alsamixer and turn it up |
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| 02:39.55 | abrotman | kartoo.com! |
| 02:40.02 | dscener | noisemo: cool, thanks for your help man. |
| 02:40.08 | kartoo | yo abrotman |
| 02:40.11 | noiesmo | dscener, working |
| 02:40.20 | abrotman | kartoo: i only know the website :) |
| 02:40.41 | dscener | yup, working |
| 02:40.47 | noiesmo | dscener, sweet |
| 02:40.56 | dscener | very sweet |
| 02:40.58 | keyhack | so, anyone? |
| 02:41.20 | noiesmo | dscener, also do alsactrl store as root so as to save mixer settings |
| 02:41.29 | kartoo | When i try to use lftp over tls, i get the error "Login failed: 550 SSL/TLS required on the control channel". What package needs to be installed. |
| 02:41.41 | archie | keyhack, cann you do something like 'cat /etc/passwd >/dev/dsp' |
| 02:41.48 | liable | keyhack: just try loading the modules manually and run alsamixer |
| 02:41.57 | keyhack | liable: What modules would those be? |
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| 02:42.02 | archie | keyhack, i mean do sound works while not recognized |
| 02:42.12 | keyhack | archie: huh? |
| 02:42.48 | liable | keyhack: snd-emu10k (if its a SB) |
| 02:43.09 | liable | keyhack: then make sure snd-pcm-oss is loaded. |
| 02:44.01 | keyhack | liable: OMG! |
| 02:44.03 | keyhack | liable: That was it! |
| 02:44.14 | keyhack | liable: lol, just "modprobe snd-emu10k" fixed _everything_ |
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| 02:44.44 | liable | keyhack: add it to /etc/modules |
| 02:45.00 | liable | *blush* |
| 02:45.16 | keyhack | alsactrl store makes it save the mixer settings? |
| 02:46.45 | kartoo | !dpkg lftp/tls |
| 02:46.53 | abrotman | liable: you cheater! |
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| 02:47.21 | liable | abrotman: i have to, otherwise I never pass anything.. :) |
| 02:47.22 | kartoo | abrotman: do u know what package needs to be installed for tls to work with lftp? |
| 02:47.37 | archie | any clues about bridging ... with AP <-> ipw2200 <--???--- it seems i cannot bridge after the linux ipw2200 notebook. any clues ? |
| 02:47.48 | abrotman | !u |
| 02:47.48 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 02:47.54 | abrotman | kartoo: and no .. |
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| 02:48.03 | abrotman | !find lftp tls |
| 02:48.30 | Wyzard | archie: I've noticed recently that with VMware 5.5, I can't bridge a virtual network interface to an ipw2200 wireless interface, even though the VMware documentation says bridging to wireless is supported in this version |
| 02:48.49 | noiesmo | can we just get over the u think who gives a rats you u or ewe aaahhhhh |
| 02:48.52 | Wyzard | archie: I haven't investigated the issue, but it might just be that the ipw2200 driver doesn't support promiscuous mode (which is necessary for bridging) |
| 02:48.59 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'lftp tls' returned no results. |
| 02:49.06 | noiesmo | !ewe |
| 02:49.06 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
| 02:49.32 | kartoo | !dpkg tls package |
| 02:50.28 | abrotman | kartoo: did you try apt-cache search lftp tls .. or read /usr/share/doc/lftp/* ? |
| 02:50.49 | archie | Wyzard, maybe.. then i used a wify usb WL-167G .. and same .. otherwise do you mean i should explecitly put it in promiscious through iwconfig commands ? |
| 02:51.04 | kartoo | yeah tried apt-cache search lftp tls abrotman. |
| 02:51.28 | Wyzard | archie: You could try putting it in promiscuous mode manually just to see whether it succeeds, if that's what you mean |
| 02:51.31 | kartoo | but that didnt help |
| 02:52.06 | archie | Wyzard, ok, i'll try that, thanks |
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| 02:52.17 | abrotman | kartoo: i'd check the docs |
| 02:52.52 | kartoo | thanx abrotman. I'd look into the docs too. |
| 02:53.11 | abrotman | kartoo: there are bugs filed about TLS problems .. so there must be a away |
| 02:53.15 | abrotman | err a way |
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| 02:53.41 | Wyzard | unless the bugs are the reason why there isn't a way :-) |
| 02:54.25 | kartoo | abrotman: where would search to find those ways? googling doesn't help!! |
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| 02:54.53 | abrotman | kartoo: /usr/share/doc/lftp/* .. or man lftp |
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| 02:55.30 | kartoo | abrotman: okay. |
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| 02:56.34 | kartoo | abrotman: not a single word about tls in man page of lftp!! |
| 02:56.59 | kartoo | abrotman grep -i "tls" /usr/share/doc/lftp/* yields nothing |
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| 02:57.18 | unixer | what does \ do in bash commands ? |
| 02:58.16 | Wyzard | unixer: It's used for suppressing the special meaning of certain characters |
| 02:58.42 | dub | anyone know offhand if xscreensaver can be configured in terms of what it displays |
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| 02:59.15 | TypoNAM | What is the command to open the debian installer's network utility? |
| 02:59.18 | kartoo | dub: can you be more precise? what do you mean by "configured in terms of what it displays" ? |
| 02:59.19 | liable | dub: you can pick what screensaver you want, if thats what you mean. |
| 02:59.22 | Wyzard | unixer: For example, spaces are used to separate command-line arguments... if you wanted to write a single argument containing spaces, you could do it by backslashing the spaces |
| 02:59.23 | Xenguy | unixer: it 'escapes' a character |
| 02:59.31 | Wyzard | unixer: ls file\ with\ spaces\ in\ its\ name |
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| 03:00.07 | dub | kartoo, (etc), well I just walked into the lab to find 3d spinning atomic diagrams of varoius illit drugs that my employer may misunderstand |
| 03:00.18 | abrotman | kartoo: searc for skey in the man page |
| 03:00.23 | Xenguy | dub: haha |
| 03:00.34 | jetscreamer | dub yeah you can turn them off individually |
| 03:00.45 | dub | ok, thanks |
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| 03:01.38 | unixer | i remember once i typed \ by mistake and after ENTER, i got a new line with > |
| 03:01.50 | Xenguy | unixer: hit ESC in that case |
| 03:01.56 | TypoNAM | What is the command to open the debian installer's network utility? |
| 03:01.59 | kartoo | abrotman: yes i get some results for skey. what is that skey? |
| 03:02.11 | unixer | Xenguy: what happened exactly ? |
| 03:02.21 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: more specifically, what do you want to do? |
| 03:02.23 | abrotman | kartoo: i assume that's what you want .. or the stuff around it .. like the ssl-force etc |
| 03:02.33 | Xenguy | unixer: it returns everything to a sane state |
| 03:02.42 | TypoNAM | Xenguy: I need to configure the eth0 adapter to go from DHCP to static IP and etc.. |
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| 03:03.18 | TypoNAM | I would prefer to use the debian installer's network utility to set it up, but of course as usual debian's documentation doesn't say anything about it |
| 03:03.26 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: if you have a GUI, then Administration / Network ? |
| 03:03.37 | grandma | how can i make a symbolic link in /dev that survives a reboot? i'm trying to link /dev/ttyS0 to /dev/photopc (for digital camera, through serial port) and the link is gone when i reboot the laptop |
| 03:03.41 | jetscreamer | netcardconfig is the name of a script |
| 03:03.42 | TypoNAM | Xenguy: I asked for command as in I'm remotely SSH'd in via terminal |
| 03:03.44 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: sorry, I'm thinking GNOME |
| 03:03.51 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: nod |
| 03:04.16 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: I think you need to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 03:04.42 | unixer | Xenguy: sane state ? |
| 03:05.01 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: man interfaces |
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| 03:05.20 | Xenguy | unixer: things returned to normal (if indeed we are still talking about the same thing :-) |
| 03:05.42 | unixer | yeah but i still don't see what u mean |
| 03:05.54 | abrotman | !u |
| 03:05.55 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 03:05.55 | Xenguy | unixer: no worries, let it go |
| 03:06.26 | noiesmo | can we just get over the "u" thing who gives a rats you u or ewe aaahhhhh |
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| 03:06.37 | Xenguy | noiesmo: nope |
| 03:06.43 | noiesmo | bugger |
| 03:07.02 | Xenguy | noiesmo: it is far easier to 'scan' real English, than to try to parse this short-form stuff -- seriously |
| 03:07.13 | kartoo | abrotman: i dont have those ssl related variables at all when i give set -a |
| 03:07.27 | Xenguy | noiesmo: by scan, I mean speed-read |
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| 03:07.51 | kartoo | abrotman: does that mean i dont even have ssl integrated with lftp? But i had installed openssl and stuff like that!! |
| 03:07.54 | abrotman | kartoo: really .. i've never used lftp |
| 03:07.56 | noiesmo | Xenguy, k fair comment not taken no more U's here |
| 03:07.58 | abrotman | kartoo: but it seems to be there |
| 03:08.00 | linuxddr | how can i know my linux kernel? |
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| 03:08.20 | abrotman | uname -a |
| 03:08.34 | Xenguy | noiesmo: (and yet k doesn't bug me -- go figure :-) |
| 03:08.37 | linuxddr | okk |
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| 03:08.48 | kartoo | abrotman: ok |
| 03:08.49 | noiesmo | Xenguy, aaahhh ok |
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| 03:09.18 | Siv0x | I'm really new with linux, and i've saw photographs of other pplz kde Desktop, and mine doesn't look nearly as good.. |
| 03:09.45 | grandma | anybody know how i can make a symlink that survives a reboot in /dev? |
| 03:10.04 | Xenguy | Siv0x: everything is infinitely customizable :-) |
| 03:10.06 | abrotman | Xenguy: how far ? |
| 03:10.19 | Xenguy | abrotman: short and skinny ;-) |
| 03:10.20 | abrotman | grandma: other than creating a script to make it every boot .. you can't |
| 03:10.48 | grandma | abrotman: thanks...wasn't sure if it was possible |
| 03:11.20 | abrotman | grandma: if you use udev .. it's created at boot time |
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| 03:11.28 | grandma | yea, i use udev |
| 03:12.04 | abrotman | dpkg: love udev |
| 03:12.30 | Siv0x | well, my debian looks really ... old |
| 03:12.32 | Siv0x | for some reason |
| 03:12.43 | grandma | odla: why don't you like udev? |
| 03:12.44 | abrotman | does it fart dust ? |
| 03:12.52 | Siv0x | lmfao |
| 03:12.54 | Siv0x | nah |
| 03:13.06 | odla | grandma: try upgrading from sarge to etch |
| 03:13.20 | noiesmo | abrotman, i like it funny does it fart dust hahaha |
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| 03:13.45 | grandma | i'm using mixed system, with testing as most priority |
| 03:14.25 | gregmon-pterando | Hi. Philosophical question: Do all distros require wiping out all your apps with each (quarterly, semi-annual) version upgrade. |
| 03:14.43 | abrotman | gregmon-pterando: no |
| 03:14.56 | gregmon-pterando | Is there a list that don't? |
| 03:14.58 | Xenguy | gregmon-pterando: like, totally, the opposite |
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| 03:15.06 | abrotman | gregmon-pterando: my last machine did three/four versions of debian upgraded .. no reinstall |
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| 03:15.13 | benjamindees | greenfly, you're asking this in #debian? |
| 03:15.19 | odla | gregmon-pterando: you can upgrade with slackware like that too |
| 03:15.27 | gregmon-pterando | k. thx |
| 03:15.45 | gregmon-pterando | What about madwifi, or iwconfig for wireless-- you folks got that builtin automatically now? |
| 03:15.57 | benjamindees | wow, tab completion sucks lately... |
| 03:16.04 | abrotman | !tell gregmon-pterando about madwifi |
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| 03:16.25 | SperMite | does this look right ? Devin:/usr/src/linux-2.6.14# patch -p1 /home/newjunk/patch-2.6.14.1 |
| 03:16.26 | roby | i'm using mirror.direct.ca as my debian mirror, i keep getting a ' GPG error ... The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available' for this mirror, what can I do to fix this? |
| 03:16.27 | andax | !tell andax about madwifi |
| 03:17.03 | gregmon-pterando | I know about madwifi & debian a year or so ago-- had to recompile kernel, etc. Some distros have it built-in. Do you? |
| 03:17.15 | noiesmo | SperMite, patch -p1 < /home/blah/blah i thought |
| 03:17.28 | jetscreamer | roby it's in the topic |
| 03:17.34 | jetscreamer | i heard |
| 03:17.47 | roby | jetscreamer: sorry |
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| 03:18.21 | Siv0x | so, how do i upgrade to a better looking version? |
| 03:18.25 | abrotman | jetscreamer: put your glasses on! |
| 03:18.51 | celeborn | I'm having a problem with debian: I have a router, with one cable coming into this room, it goes into a hub, which then splits to two computers. Both are on debian. One's getting internet fine(this one) the other can't detect that it's on a network. Is there anything I can do? |
| 03:18.57 | SperMite | noiesmo ok thanks =) |
| 03:19.28 | gregmon-pterando | Q: if I put Debian on a box, is madwifi there by default or do I have to roll my own? |
| 03:19.44 | andax | !tell gregmon-pterando about madwifi |
| 03:19.47 | andax | :) |
| 03:20.04 | gregmon-pterando | andax, can you answer my question-- I don't think it's at those links. |
| 03:20.12 | abrotman | gregmon-pterando: /msg dpkg madwifi |
| 03:20.24 | jetscreamer | celeborn: maybe there's no auto eth0/1 lo in relevant entry in /etc/network/interfaces ... i'm not sure what that hotplug stuff does or why it doesn't seem to work for me. |
| 03:20.37 | andax | gregmon-pterando: you gotta dl your own, and time to learn reading |
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| 03:21.18 | TypoNAM | Xenguy: how do I make changes take effect for resolv.conf and interfaces? |
| 03:21.27 | jetscreamer | they just are |
| 03:21.31 | gregmon-pterando | okay. The net is the distro that has madwifi built-in also forces you to reload all your apps on a quarterly basis. (boo hoo). |
| 03:21.35 | jetscreamer | save the file |
| 03:21.35 | andax | TypoNAM: just save the file :) |
| 03:21.37 | Siv0x | ooops ;\ |
| 03:21.38 | gregmon-pterando | thanks for info though. verry helpufl |
| 03:21.43 | celeborn | jetscreamer: well both /etc/netwrok/interfaces files are exactly the same, "auto lo" "ifcae lo inet loopback" and then "auto eth0" "iface etho0 inet dhcp" |
| 03:22.16 | jetscreamer | ok celeborn beyond me then. that's my one thing. |
| 03:22.23 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: you might have to do /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 03:22.35 | Siv0x | once again, how do i upgrade to a better looking version, or maybe just set a higher resolution? |
| 03:22.45 | Xenguy | TypoNAM: resolv.conf should be instantaneous |
| 03:22.45 | jetscreamer | version of what |
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| 03:23.04 | Siv0x | nvm |
| 03:23.07 | Siv0x | ermm |
| 03:23.11 | Siv0x | how do i just make it look better ;\ |
| 03:23.16 | jetscreamer | what |
| 03:23.28 | Xenguy | Siv0x: tell us what it looks like now perhaps |
| 03:23.30 | jetscreamer | what is this 'it' of which you speak |
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| 03:23.41 | Tachu | hi wat is debian? |
| 03:23.41 | jetscreamer | s/speak/type |
| 03:23.45 | Xenguy | Siv0x: i.e. what is wrong right now? |
| 03:23.52 | jetscreamer | it's two people in love, tachu |
| 03:23.53 | Xenguy | Tachu: debian.org |
| 03:24.00 | s0nyc | debian is the best so |
| 03:24.02 | s0nyc | :D |
| 03:24.04 | abrotman | !tell Tachu about debian |
| 03:24.07 | abrotman | !tell Tachu about why debian |
| 03:24.19 | andax | Siv0x: my mind-reading skills tell me you should try: gtk-theme-switch gtk-theme-switch2 / or as root: apt-cache search artwork and change the wallpaper or whatever |
| 03:24.38 | Tachu | ok... in that case... |
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| 03:24.43 | Siv0x | nah, its not the wallpaper dude |
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| 03:24.48 | jetscreamer | !drxx Siv0x |
| 03:24.48 | dpkg | Siv0x: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 03:25.14 | jetscreamer | you can change the res there |
| 03:25.31 | jetscreamer | medium is a safe choice when it asks |
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| 03:28.32 | Fluten | when i start linux, i get the message "VFS: cannot open root device "301" or unknown block(3,1)" |
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| 03:28.51 | Fluten | i am using lilo, and it also says "please append a correct "root=" boot option |
| 03:28.53 | Eno_ | Bootload is misconfigured I think |
| 03:29.01 | Eno_ | bootloader |
| 03:29.07 | andax | Fluten: try passing the correct root=/dev/hdXY parameter to the kernel |
| 03:29.14 | Fluten | its a new install, maybe the install configures it wrong |
| 03:29.16 | abrotman | Fluten: did you compile your own kernel ? |
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| 03:29.26 | _fred | Hi! I am getting a lot of "Unable to fetch file" while upgrading testing this morning. Is it normal or is there something wrong on my system? |
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| 03:29.53 | Matt-H | _fred: did you try an apt-get update? |
| 03:30.13 | _fred | yes i did that first |
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| 03:30.40 | _fred | and got a GPG error |
| 03:31.03 | _fred | said public key was not available |
| 03:31.08 | Siv0x | ok guys.. its just my menu bar that i don't like, its like in 2 seperate parts, and at the bottom it says, Applications, and Actions.. |
| 03:31.10 | abrotman | !2006 key |
| 03:31.11 | dpkg | hmm... 2006 key is apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - && apt-get update |
| 03:31.21 | kspath | only 800+ ? |
| 03:31.29 | abrotman | more cowbell! |
| 03:31.39 | Siv0x | ? |
| 03:31.45 | Seldon1975 | Hi, I have Debian Sarge on my Dell Precision M60. I Installed the nVidia driver using the method described at: http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/nvidia.htm. This works, but unfortunately the only resolutions I have available have a standard aspect ration (ie: 640x480, 800x600, 1600x1200 etc...) whereas my monitor has a wide screen aspect ratio and so everything looks stretched. How can I change the resolution to the |
| 03:32.10 | _fred | what does this mean? |
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| 03:33.31 | roby | _fred: i had to upgrade to new apt |
| 03:33.36 | roby | and then get the new key |
| 03:33.41 | Seldon1975 | the best resolution I can get in WinXP is 1920 x 1200 |
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| 03:34.05 | Fluten | what could i be configuring wrong, i cant seem to get it to boot no matter what i do |
| 03:34.09 | benjamindees | Seldon, edit /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 manually |
| 03:34.27 | _fred | so should I stop the current upgrading then? |
| 03:34.42 | roby | _fred: i dunno, i do no think you have to stop it |
| 03:34.58 | _fred | ok thanks |
| 03:35.12 | _fred | so in fact apt got updated and this is why I get those errors? |
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| 03:35.37 | roby | uhm... maybe, i think the public key changed and on your system is still the old key saved for the mirror servers |
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| 03:35.50 | roby | as far as i can understand |
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| 03:36.04 | dli | recommend a good dictionary? I don't want those by network |
| 03:36.09 | _fred | and that would explain why apt can't find some packages? |
| 03:36.14 | dscener | Will I get better performance from configuring xserver-xorg to use the ATI chipset or the Vesa one? |
| 03:36.26 | Guerin | dli: shorter oxford. |
| 03:36.34 | roby | _fred: no, apt should still find all packages, it would just does not want to trust the mirror |
| 03:36.38 | Guerin | dli: buy one from your local bookstore |
| 03:37.12 | dli | dscener, ati, if you can make it work |
| 03:37.18 | roby | Anyone else have trouble with mozplugger package loading acroread package (nerim.net) in their firefox? |
| 03:37.29 | dscener | dli: it works, it just freezes every once in a while :( So I guess I should say it doesn't work |
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| 03:37.48 | dscener | dli: Are you in the same boat? |
| 03:38.14 | NOthsouth | can I upgrade sarge to etch ? |
| 03:38.26 | Guerin | NOthsouth: you have my permission. |
| 03:38.43 | Seldon1975 | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:39.03 | dli | dscener, not really, but similar thing, nvidia, both are nasty |
| 03:39.10 | dscener | Seldon1975: run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg as root |
| 03:39.10 | NOthsouth | Guerin, hahaha lol, I mean , is that possible ?? or I need make new etch install ? |
| 03:39.13 | Guerin | Seldon1975: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 03:39.22 | odla | NOthsouth: i wouldn't recommend it right now...i've tried the last two nights and it's f-ed up my computer |
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| 03:39.27 | Guerin | NOthsouth: /msg dpkg sarge->etch |
| 03:39.41 | balzac | hello |
| 03:39.46 | balzac | what does this mean? |
| 03:39.48 | balzac | Current running kernel is: 2.6.13-15-default |
| 03:39.48 | NOthsouth | odla, hauhauha LOL |
| 03:39.48 | balzac | /lib/modules... autoconf.h exists |
| 03:39.49 | balzac | diff: /boot/vmlinuz.autoconf.h: No such file or directory |
| 03:39.49 | balzac | autoconf.h matches running kernel |
| 03:39.51 | Seldon1975 | Guerin thx |
| 03:39.59 | Guerin | balzac: it means "don't fucking paste, you twat" |
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| 03:40.14 | balzac | 3 short lines |
| 03:40.16 | ejofee | mplayer shows the movie on a centered small screen (surrounded by a black background). how can i full-screen the image (width-wise)? |
| 03:40.21 | balzac | how about 1 line? |
| 03:40.38 | roby | ejofee: -vo xv |
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| 03:40.50 | Guerin | ejofee: use -vo xv or enable -zoom or software scaling |
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| 03:41.04 | balzac | that could all fit on one line without screenwrap |
| 03:41.07 | roby | Guerin: oooh, yeah maybe he don't support xv |
| 03:41.19 | roby | good point |
| 03:41.43 | ejofee | roby, Guerin: isn't there any gui way to do it? i was actually talking about the gui mplayer. |
| 03:41.47 | pe-de-moleque | everything went wrong, babys |
| 03:41.53 | pe-de-moleque | And now? |
| 03:41.57 | ejofee | roby, Guerin: (thank you, anyway) |
| 03:42.09 | Seldon1975 | dscener: I get: xserver-xorg is not installed |
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| 03:42.45 | Seldon1975 | oh |
| 03:42.45 | Guerin | ejofee: you can set -vo xv as default by editing the mplayer config file. I don't know about the gui, but I suspect not. |
| 03:42.50 | Seldon1975 | i have to use dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 03:43.11 | _fred | ok so i update the key and got one less error, still got a key error from another server but small issue. Now when I try to update apt I get the Unable to fetch file again. Any idea what could be wrong then? should I change mirror? |
| 03:43.39 | sifi-x | is the official developer of debian "The Debian Group"? |
| 03:43.56 | Guerin | sifi-x: no, |
| 03:44.11 | sifi-x | Guerin, who then? |
| 03:44.17 | Guerin | sifi-x: see debian.org |
| 03:44.26 | sifi-x | Guerin, whats the name of the devel |
| 03:44.30 | Guerin | sifi-x: did someone hack both your arms off? |
| 03:44.38 | Guerin | sifi-x: can you not use a web browser? |
| 03:44.42 | ejofee | Guerin: thanks |
| 03:44.56 | roby | _fred: it's worth a shot |
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| 03:45.15 | matrix | i need channel for debian 64 bit? |
| 03:45.19 | Seldon1975 | when I run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 the only Screen Resolutions I'm offered are standard-aspect ratio; whereas I have a wide screen LCD |
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| 03:45.29 | sifi-x | mathieu_, #debian-amd64 |
| 03:45.31 | _fred | ok... sorry for asking stupid question... sometimes having people answering all your questions is not really helping... makes your brain useless ;-) |
| 03:45.36 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, I cant take the java dependencys from this repos. |
| 03:45.37 | dli | what package for the frontend of dictd ? |
| 03:45.57 | _fred | so thanks guys.. i'll see what I can do |
| 03:46.05 | matrix | thanks |
| 03:46.13 | Guerin | Seldon1975: /msg dpkg hwinfo to see what screenmodes are available; then drxx to set them. |
| 03:46.33 | Seldon1975 | thanks guerin Ill try it |
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| 03:49.19 | Seldon1975 | Guerin when you say 'drxx' to set them; what do you mean |
| 03:49.23 | Seldon1975 | is that a package? |
| 03:49.33 | Seldon1975 | i dont seem to have it |
| 03:49.45 | Seldon1975 | or do you mean: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
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| 03:50.14 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, soz what you mean you cant take java from repos |
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| 03:50.30 | Guerin | Seldon1975: the latter |
| 03:50.33 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, for get openoffice 2 |
| 03:50.35 | SperMite | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:50.58 | Guerin | NOthsouth: debian openoffice 2 doesn't need sun java. |
| 03:51.11 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, i had to install normal openoffice version 1.13 then i installed openoffice.org which upgrade to openoffice2 and it just download the java it needed |
| 03:51.16 | Seldon1975 | Guerin: does this mean I have to use the 'advanced' monitor option in drxx to set all the parameters? |
| 03:51.41 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, when I try install the openoffice 2 package, it put as dependency java-common.. etc |
| 03:51.51 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, it didnt like it when i tried to install openoffice2 straight up |
| 03:52.23 | Guerin | Seldon1975: you might get away with using medium; I'm not sure. |
| 03:52.43 | Guerin | NOthsouth: which openoffice2 package? |
| 03:52.50 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, so i basically installed openoffice 1.13 then added repos to sources.list did apt-get update then apt-get install openoffice.org from mem |
| 03:53.15 | NOthsouth | Guerin, openoffice.org |
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| 03:53.20 | NOthsouth | noiesmo, yeh, i can try that |
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| 03:53.34 | Guerin | NOthsouth: which one? from debian? from which branch of debian? |
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| 03:53.51 | NOthsouth | yeh, from debian |
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| 03:54.57 | Guerin | ... |
| 03:54.58 | Tortel | sorry, testing something |
| 03:55.02 | valent|n0 | I can't get debian to start.. I got x server failed to start, because of the graphic card is not configure correctly, where I thought I have pick the right one.. It always pop me into x configuration where I can move my mouse with the number keypad .. anyone can help me configuring this box? |
| 03:55.07 | odla | NOthsouth: you have to install java to have oo.org2 installed |
| 03:55.12 | odla | or to install oo.org2 |
| 03:55.41 | NOthsouth | odb, what java ? |
| 03:55.58 | odla | !tell NOthsouth about java-package |
| 03:56.11 | noiesmo | NOthsouth, I know its a pain but it did work for me i was hopeing to just install oo2 strat up but java erros so i did oo1 then blah blah s before |
| 03:56.40 | NOthsouth | odla, can I have only jdk sun ? |
| 03:57.08 | muttix | oo2 and no sun java runs fine ! |
| 03:57.08 | odla | i usually have the jre...i think jdk might wrok |
| 03:57.10 | odla | not sure |
| 03:57.17 | ejofee | Guerin: my ~/mplayer/config file is empty. will you please tell me the exact line i should add to it? |
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| 03:57.28 | Guerin | ejofee: no, because I don't know it. |
| 03:57.53 | Guerin | jdk is a superset of jre |
| 03:58.10 | odla | jdk is for developers right? |
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| 03:58.25 | Guerin | yes. It's the libs plus the -dev libs |
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| 03:59.08 | Guerin | !tell valent|n0 about set up x |
| 03:59.24 | balzac | anyone wanna cyber? |
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| 03:59.33 | SperMite | lol |
| 03:59.35 | dub | asl? |
| 03:59.48 | celeborn | I'm having a problem with debian: I have a router with one ethernet cable coming into this room, which connects to a hub, and then splits to two computers, both running debian. One can access the internet fine using dhcp(this one), the other always says the network is down. Is there anything I can do? |
| 04:00.12 | balzac | 30/m/nashville |
| 04:00.22 | abrotman | balzac: stop |
| 04:00.23 | Supaplex | balzac: positronicly or quantum? |
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| 04:00.46 | noiesmo | celeborn, have u check cables etc |
| 04:00.48 | dub | celeborn, your problem is unlikely to be with debian, try #networking |
| 04:00.49 | abrotman | !u |
| 04:00.49 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 04:00.53 | abrotman | noiesmo: really .. please |
| 04:01.02 | Guerin | is it some sort of national holiday in north america? |
| 04:01.04 | noiesmo | abrotman, sorry bad habit |
| 04:01.10 | celeborn | noiesmo, I've tried switching the cables, switching ports, etc =\ |
| 04:01.25 | Supaplex | Guerin: it's FRIDAY! whaouUU!! |
| 04:01.26 | celeborn | dub, I thought maybe too, but I used a MEPIS livecd, and it detects the network fine on that other comp |
| 04:01.44 | mpoer | anyone running debian with BellSouth DSL? |
| 04:01.56 | Supaplex | mpoer: pppoe? |
| 04:02.04 | noiesmo | celeborn, lspci lsmod check that debian has your nic also check interfaces files compare the to systems |
| 04:02.13 | mpoer | I'm just wondering how difficult it is to configure? |
| 04:02.15 | balzac | i'm a proud american. |
| 04:02.22 | abrotman | balzac: could you stop now? |
| 04:02.31 | jetscreamer | pppoe is ez |
| 04:02.43 | balzac | maybe |
| 04:03.24 | Supaplex | humm silly question, can I get ipv6 via pppoe? |
| 04:03.30 | azeem | balzac: try to cyber elsewhere |
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| 04:03.53 | Supaplex | balzac: like #cybur2,000 I think |
| 04:04.16 | ke6isf | !lart balzac |
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| 04:04.36 | ke6isf | Waitaminit, I think he'd like that... eew. |
| 04:04.37 | abrotman | azeem: i'm not sure if you know about this .. but normal people sleep :) |
| 04:04.49 | valent|n0 | can anyone help me point to where my problem is .. I think I got the wrong driver for my graphics card but I am not sure |
| 04:04.50 | JeffH | does anyone here use 'dirvish'? |
| 04:04.56 | balzac | dpkg isn't afraid to cyber, apparently |
| 04:04.56 | ke6isf | !anyone |
| 04:04.57 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 04:05.07 | balzac | i got side tracked from my goal of installing a modem |
| 04:05.22 | Supaplex | !spocksmite /dev/idiot |
| 04:05.40 | azeem | abrotman: just back to the club and baby-sitting some build |
| 04:05.48 | azeem | but yeah, I already brushed my teeth :) |
| 04:05.54 | azeem | eh s/to/from/ |
| 04:05.54 | noiesmo | balzac, PPPD_EXTRA="ipv6 ," check http://www.olympus-zone.net/page_1075_en_Blue.html |
| 04:05.56 | abrotman | azeem: ah .. that sounds like a good night |
| 04:06.09 | celeborn | noiesmo, this comp can't even do lsmod, says command not found |
| 04:06.29 | Supaplex | sudo lsmod |
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| 04:06.54 | noiesmo | celeborn, as ^^ or be root |
| 04:07.09 | valent|n0 | ee xf860open serial cannot open device /dev/input/mice no such device, I have my mouse on USB port |
| 04:07.09 | balzac | thanks noiesmo, but Supaplex asked about that IP6 |
| 04:07.21 | celeborn | noiesmo, ah, well I noticed in the "used" column, the ethernet card has "1" on this comp, and "0" on the other, could that be affecting it? |
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| 04:07.34 | noiesmo | Supaplex, PPPD_EXTRA="ipv6 ," check http://www.olympus-zone.net/page_1075_en_Blue.html |
| 04:07.36 | valent|n0 | no core pointer registerd <-- isthat mean no mouse? |
| 04:07.45 | Supaplex | noiesmo: ty :) |
| 04:07.47 | abrotman | good guess |
| 04:07.53 | noiesmo | celeborn, yep |
| 04:08.13 | valent|n0 | fatal server error failed to initialized code device, so my mouse is causing it to fail to load x server? |
| 04:08.14 | celeborn | noiesmo, how can I switch it to used on the other comp? |
| 04:08.38 | noiesmo | celeborn, what does lspci say about your nic |
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| 04:08.43 | valent|n0 | should I run X configuration program ? or run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 again ? |
| 04:08.54 | abrotman | modprobe mousedev |
| 04:09.15 | celeborn | noiesmo: Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS900 PCI Fast Ethernet (rev 91) |
| 04:09.17 | celeborn | noiesmo ? |
| 04:09.41 | _fred | back. Changing mirror fixed my problem. thanks again |
| 04:09.44 | jetscreamer | used2be modprobe psmouse mousedev... we've made progress |
| 04:09.46 | JeffH | I'm trying to setup dirvish to backup my windows machine. I installed the rsync server on my windows box. The documentation says you can test it by typing 'rsync rsync://ipaddress/' and you should see the share name which I do. It then says if you type 'rsync rsync://ipaddress/share' you'll see the files. I do that and get the error 'access denied to backups from (local machine) |
| 04:09.57 | JeffH | anyone know what might be wrong? |
| 04:10.02 | celeborn | noiesmo: On this comp is says (rev 90) if that makes any difference |
| 04:10.09 | celeborn | noiesmo: with the same other info |
| 04:10.35 | jetscreamer | jeff__: maybe you're not in the proper group? |
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| 04:11.05 | JeffH | jetscreamer: that's possible. but windows doesn't have a concept of groups does it? |
| 04:11.10 | noiesmo | celeborn, the sis900 module needs to be loaded if its not in lsmod would have thought it would pick up sis eth card automatically |
| 04:11.33 | jetscreamer | ah it's the windows box? yes you might want the backup or backupoperator group, i forget which |
| 04:11.44 | jetscreamer | yes very many groups |
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| 04:12.05 | jetscreamer | i think it's just backup |
| 04:12.14 | celeborn | noiesmo, so how can I load the module? and this comp did load it automatically, and it's the same one, so I'm not sure |
| 04:12.17 | abrotman | !tell tusov about root |
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| 04:12.36 | jetscreamer | modprobe <modulename> |
| 04:12.46 | jetscreamer | add <modulename> to /etc/modules |
| 04:13.46 | valent|n0 | should I use debconf <-- just fresh install linux, first time linux install in my life |
| 04:13.49 | jetscreamer | jeff__: not winme or win9x, but w2k or > yes |
| 04:14.04 | noiesmo | celeborn, do modprobe as per jetscreamer |
| 04:14.05 | jetscreamer | yes valent|n0 |
| 04:14.24 | celeborn | jetscreamer noiesmo : should modprobe give a message back? |
| 04:14.47 | noiesmo | celeborn, not now lsmod see if there |
| 04:14.50 | valent|n0 | my driver is integrated ATI Rage Pro AGP 2X , so I should pick ATI on the graphic list instead of VGA right? |
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| 04:14.56 | jetscreamer | yes unless the module is already loaded usually |
| 04:14.57 | valent|n0 | I mean My graphics card |
| 04:15.08 | abrotman | !distract jetscreamer |
| 04:15.21 | jetscreamer | valent|n0: i don't know but i would guess yes |
| 04:15.36 | jetscreamer | !crabpastesmite abrotman |
| 04:15.41 | celeborn | noiesmo, after doing modprobe sis900, it's still marked as "0" in the used column of lsmod |
| 04:15.45 | jetscreamer | only one i could think of |
| 04:15.49 | abrotman | !cheesesteak jetscreamer |
| 04:16.12 | jetscreamer | celeborn: sis900 gets autodetected pretty well by hotplug&discover |
| 04:16.28 | abrotman | udev kills hotplug .. at least in testing/unstable |
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| 04:16.43 | noiesmo | jetscreamer, i would have thought so to |
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| 04:16.56 | valent|n0 | can I leave my bus entry for the graphic card blank .. |
| 04:16.57 | jetscreamer | but, udev uses hotplug... which is weird. but a different version? |
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| 04:17.07 | valent|n0 | I only have one video card in this box |
| 04:17.16 | jetscreamer | yes valent|n0 |
| 04:17.16 | celeborn | jetscreamer well it loaded fine on THIS comp, but not the other |
| 04:17.18 | noiesmo | jetscreamer, have old system had sis900 eth never had hassels i just not using it any more so cant double check |
| 04:17.19 | jetscreamer | blank is good |
| 04:17.32 | jetscreamer | i have sis900 |
| 04:17.35 | celeborn | jetscreamer these two comps are both connected to a hub, which goes to a router, so I don't know if that could deal with it |
| 04:17.39 | valent|n0 | thx |
| 04:18.10 | noiesmo | celeborn, what happens when you type ifconfig on sys not working |
| 04:18.15 | jetscreamer | shouldn't, imo, but i'm no scarynetworkguy |
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| 04:18.46 | celeborn | noiesmo Link encap: Local Loopback, inet addr:127.0.0.1 Mask:255.0.0.0 |
| 04:18.53 | celeborn | most of the other stuff is something:0 |
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| 04:19.43 | jetscreamer | ipv6 |
| 04:19.46 | jetscreamer | probably |
| 04:19.56 | noiesmo | celeborn, whats in /etc/networking/interfaces is there like auto eth0 and iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 04:20.31 | valent|n0 | write default files section to configuration => yes? |
| 04:20.43 | valent|n0 | or no? |
| 04:20.46 | Seldon1975 | is there a good guide so setting Debian up so I can read from an ntfs partition on my HD? |
| 04:20.48 | celeborn | noiesmo: /etc/network/interfaces has "auto lo" "iface lo inet loopback" "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
| 04:20.58 | stat | does the debian basic installation pop in gcj? |
| 04:21.08 | ke6isf | !tell Seldon1975 -about ntfs |
| 04:21.10 | noiesmo | celeborn, ok thats fine be buggered |
| 04:21.38 | benjamindees | can anyone point me to where the "X hangs when scrolling Moz/Firefox" bug is? |
| 04:21.49 | valent|n0 | ya my mouse is working!! :) |
| 04:21.51 | valent|n0 | awesome |
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| 04:22.25 | valent|n0 | finally I am on desktop :P |
| 04:22.33 | noiesmo | celeborn, what kernel you using |
| 04:22.40 | Seldon1975 | thx |
| 04:22.48 | valent|n0 | whats the best way to find drivers for linux? just google it? |
| 04:22.59 | Eno_ | They're in the colonel |
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| 04:23.10 | celeborn | noiesmo, 2.4.x I think? |
| 04:23.16 | benjamindees | valent|n0, depends on the driver; you should have most of them already |
| 04:23.25 | nvz | !colonel |
| 04:24.02 | celeborn | noiesmo: I used the stable netinst cd |
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| 04:24.57 | noiesmo | jetscreamer, celeborn , do you think its a kernel issue for celeborn |
| 04:25.20 | noiesmo | celeborn, can you boot to 2.6.x kernel |
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| 04:25.45 | celeborn | noiesmo: I don't think it installed a 2.6.x kernel, but the MEPIS livecd I used was 2.6.x |
| 04:26.56 | celeborn | noiesmo: 2.4.27-2-386 is what it says on grub |
| 04:27.09 | sifi-x | which OS/kernel is xbox 360 running? |
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| 04:27.14 | noiesmo | celeborn, yes ok can you try mephis live but select 2.4 kernel and see what happens with the nic that would help confirm possible kernel issue |
| 04:27.15 | sifi-x | wrong chan, sorry |
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| 04:27.49 | celeborn | noiesmo: alright, I'll give it a try, hold on |
| 04:27.54 | noiesmo | celeborn, cool |
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| 04:28.00 | valent|n0 | how do I change display resolution, and color depth once I am on desktop here |
| 04:28.23 | abrotman | you only need 16 colors |
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| 04:29.55 | valent|n0 | I set it to 8 right now |
| 04:29.58 | noiesmo | celeborn, i'll be right back just have to hook up nintendo for kids |
| 04:30.17 | abrotman | !info gaim sid |
| 04:30.20 | dpkg | gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0+1.5.1cvs20051015-1 (sid), Packaged size: 831 kB, Installed size: 2036 kB |
| 04:30.32 | celeborn | noiesmo ok |
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| 04:32.27 | celeborn-mepis | noiesmo: hmm =\ |
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| 04:32.37 | celeborn | noiesmo =\ |
| 04:32.43 | jetscreamer | !info xrander |
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| 04:32.56 | abrotman | !info xrandr |
| 04:32.59 | Becca | anyone having probs with gaim connecting to yahoo ? |
| 04:33.06 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i think it's just part of the package |
| 04:33.12 | abrotman | err .. xserver-xorg page |
| 04:33.15 | ne0futur | I cant startx wile my user is in a screen |
| 04:33.28 | ne0futur | user not authorized to use X |
| 04:33.53 | ne0futur | do I become another user when i usr screen ? |
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| 04:34.16 | ne0futur | and what should I do tobe able to launch X frm withinb a screen ? |
| 04:34.20 | Seldon1975 | hi; I tried "udevinfo -a -p /block/sdc" to try to find my iRiver USB drive, but I get back "couldn't get the class device" |
| 04:34.29 | liable | grr, cant log into anonymous cvs server.. |
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| 04:34.30 | _Sam-- | how would i compare the contents of two filesystems to see what is different? i have two partitions that are supposed to be the same, but one is taking alot more disk space |
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| 04:35.46 | Guerin | _Sam--: compare output of df --all |sort -n |
| 04:35.49 | Garda | what is a good podcatcher for linux |
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| 04:36.00 | Garda | can i just use any kind of rss reader |
| 04:36.08 | jeeves_ | dpkg: how do you mount a SMB share? |
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| 04:36.20 | rixth | http://pastebin.com/504995 I have checked the system log, but thre is nothing there. What next? |
| 04:36.23 | _Sam-- | ive done du against every directory on both partitions |
| 04:36.36 | _Sam-- | and they match up, but df shows one partition using 500 more megs ( we are only talking 2 gig partitions) |
| 04:36.50 | Guerin | _Sam--: oh, i meant du, not df |
| 04:37.02 | jeeves_ | all: any one here good with Samba shares? |
| 04:37.04 | _Sam-- | i will try that |
| 04:37.17 | Guerin | _Sam--: somethign using a file on one? |
| 04:37.50 | _Sam-- | lsof? |
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| 04:38.03 | liable | can some one try this cvs server for me. cvs -z3 -d anonymous@cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400 co -P rtl8180-sa2400-dev |
| 04:38.03 | noiesmo | celeborn, how d you go |
| 04:38.14 | celeborn-mepis | noiesmo: =\ |
| 04:38.18 | celeborn | noiesmo: =\ |
| 04:38.31 | celeborn-mepis | noiesmo: this is on 2.4 kernel |
| 04:38.40 | _Sam-- | it doesnt make any sense to me really |
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| 04:38.56 | noiesmo | celeborn, ok do the lsmod see whats there |
| 04:39.24 | celeborn-mepis | noiesmo: sis900, "1" in used column |
| 04:39.30 | ne0futur | liable: it works here but need a password |
| 04:39.40 | _Sam-- | like i said, i compare side by side du's of the directories...and they match up within like 3megs total....but df says one using 500 more how can that be..neither is root, so they shouldnt be holding any stuff for running programs |
| 04:39.47 | liable | ne0futur: yeah, supposed to be anonymous.. |
| 04:39.48 | ne0futur | nor empty nor 'cvs' |
| 04:40.00 | Guerin | _Sam--: du without --all doesn't count individual files in . |
| 04:40.14 | liable | ne0futur: thanks |
| 04:40.33 | _Sam-- | how am i supposed to get anything useful from du --all |sort -n |
| 04:40.38 | _Sam-- | did you actually TRY that? |
| 04:40.48 | _Sam-- | it doesnt do anything that would come close to helping me |
| 04:41.08 | jetscreamer | xdiskusage |
| 04:41.13 | _Sam-- | it shows the same thing as my other du / df |
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| 04:41.14 | noiesmo | celeborn-mepis, well im not sure dude sorry |
| 04:41.14 | jetscreamer | but as root |
| 04:41.16 | ne0futur | gpl doft ? |
| 04:41.22 | Guerin | _Sam--: I normally do with --max-depth 1 |
| 04:41.23 | _Sam-- | dammit, im so sorry. |
| 04:41.26 | abrotman | du -sk | sort -n |
| 04:41.27 | ne0futur | liable: gpl ? |
| 04:41.29 | ejofee | is there any automatical way (like apt-get) to add new skins to mplayer? |
| 04:41.29 | _Sam-- | it does show something different |
| 04:41.34 | _Sam-- | and it actually shows the correct. |
| 04:41.37 | noiesmo | jetscreamer, have you got any ideas about celeborn sis900 prob |
| 04:41.38 | _Sam-- | THANK YOU. |
| 04:41.41 | _Sam-- | and sorry! |
| 04:41.41 | Guerin | :) |
| 04:41.55 | Supaplex | celeborn? |
| 04:41.57 | _Sam-- | ive been battling this now for hours! |
| 04:41.59 | _Sam-- | thanks. |
| 04:42.05 | celeborn | Supaplex? |
| 04:42.07 | _Sam-- | why does df show different than du --all? |
| 04:42.10 | _Sam-- | and du -s |
| 04:42.14 | _Sam-- | du -s == df |
| 04:42.22 | _Sam-- | but du --all == right |
| 04:42.46 | celeborn | noiesmo: the mepis /etc/network/interfaces has a bit more info than just the "auto" lines, so I'm going to try and copy it and see what happens |
| 04:42.50 | liable | ne0futur: nope. they reckon it should be empty.. dunno wtf is wrong with it. |
| 04:42.58 | noiesmo | celeborn, cool |
| 04:43.07 | Guerin | _Sam--: the workings of du are something of a mystery |
| 04:43.29 | noiesmo | celeborn, but theres still the lsmod issue it should be used by 1 not 0 |
| 04:43.31 | Guerin | _Sam--: du and df once reported ~30G difference on my ~45G partition |
| 04:43.46 | Supaplex | celeborn: nm :) I thought it was a misspelling of celeron :) |
| 04:43.46 | _Sam-- | they are some old ass tools |
| 04:43.50 | _Sam-- | maybe they need something new |
| 04:44.02 | celeborn | noiesmo yes =\ I'll try it nonetheless though |
| 04:44.08 | celeborn | Supaplex ah =P |
| 04:44.10 | _Sam-- | thanks again, now i can sleep. |
| 04:44.11 | noiesmo | celeborn, no probs |
| 04:44.14 | tyler | my mplayer can play sound but no video.. pls help... |
| 04:44.17 | jetscreamer | Supaplex: hobbits & elves |
| 04:44.25 | valent|n0 | how do I install driver for my sound card |
| 04:44.36 | liable | tyler: have you got w32codecs package? |
| 04:44.44 | tusov | hi ppl. i have some weird problems with mouse. after runnin xf86config i got the followin message "XF86Open serial:cannot open device /dev/input/mice" i try to change it to /dev/psaux -- but i got the same error :( |
| 04:45.22 | noiesmo | celeborn, have you got a spare nic a 3com or realtek you could also try see what happens even though the sis should be working fine |
| 04:45.29 | jetscreamer | maybe that's why debian has dpkg-reconfigure xserver-(xfree86/xorg) |
| 04:45.35 | tyler | liable, i did... i unpacked the codecs into ... /usr/local/lib/codecs as requested in the readme file |
| 04:45.36 | tyler | :( |
| 04:46.08 | abrotman | don't use xf86config |
| 04:46.10 | valent|n0 | <tusov> what kind of mouse do you have |
| 04:46.12 | abrotman | !drxx tusov |
| 04:46.12 | dpkg | tusov: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:46.12 | ne0futur | liable: gpl allows you to give the cvs access only to people cho pay . . . |
| 04:46.15 | abrotman | and ... |
| 04:46.20 | abrotman | !tell tusov about 2.6 mouse |
| 04:46.24 | Seldon1975 | To get my iRiver H320 mounted on the USB port I followed the instructions at: http://survivor.sarovar.org/iRiver_H3400.html but when I tried "udevinfo -a -p /block/sdc" to try to find my iRiver USB drive, but I get back "couldn't get the class device". Any advice on this? |
| 04:46.47 | valent|n0 | !tell valent|n0 about 2.6 mouse |
| 04:47.07 | celeborn | noiesmo: no luck =\ |
| 04:47.18 | Guerin | Seldon1975: my advice is: next time, buy a player which supports UMS |
| 04:47.30 | liable | ne0futur: hrm, well the docs say it should be blank, i guess i'll email the dev and see what he reckons. I just want get there newer code as the old code wont work on > 2.6.12 |
| 04:47.48 | tyler | liablemy mplayer can play sound but no video.. pls help.. |
| 04:47.50 | Seldon1975 | Guerin; ok but what about this time |
| 04:47.51 | tyler | my mplayer can play sound but no video.. pls help.. |
| 04:47.59 | Seldon1975 | Guerin: I know it can be mounted |
| 04:48.00 | jetscreamer | tyler: shhhh |
| 04:48.07 | jetscreamer | tyler: use xine |
| 04:48.08 | noiesmo | tyler, i also have symbolic like to /usr/lib/win32 for mplayer |
| 04:48.13 | jetscreamer | apt-get install xine-ui |
| 04:48.26 | ne0futur | no one here to help me with my pb withlanunching startx from a ascreen session |
| 04:48.43 | noiesmo | celeborn, was a long shoot lsmod needs to report card used 1 got a share nic say realtek or 3com |
| 04:48.45 | tyler | i cannot use xine.. mi pc too slow |
| 04:49.21 | jetscreamer | tyler: try using the marillat sources instead of doing it by hand |
| 04:49.26 | celeborn | noiesmo ? |
| 04:49.27 | Guerin | xine and mplayer's performance are so similar as to be irrelevant |
| 04:49.34 | jetscreamer | !marillat tyler |
| 04:49.40 | jetscreamer | just a thought |
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| 04:49.46 | Guerin | barring certain specific codecs/containers which one handles better than the other |
| 04:49.59 | jetscreamer | but xine needs X doesn't it |
| 04:50.00 | noiesmo | celeborn, have you got a spare network card you can plug into problem comp |
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| 04:50.15 | yaboo | msg dpkg 2006 key |
| 04:50.16 | tyler | !marillat |
| 04:50.17 | dpkg | from memory, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 04:50.46 | celeborn | noiesmo: maybe, let me check |
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| 04:51.14 | noiesmo | tyler, deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sarge main and deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ experimental main if using sargeworks for me |
| 04:51.23 | abrotman | why would you ahve both? |
| 04:51.27 | abrotman | that's just silly |
| 04:51.45 | abrotman | course .. that would be the theme of the day :) |
| 04:52.10 | jetscreamer | marillat doesn't like the word unstable... it likes sid. same for etch vs testing (or maybe that changed) |
| 04:52.10 | JeffH | can someone help me with a cygwin rsync configuration problem? I've defined a share but when I try to access that share remotely I get an 'access denied' error. |
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| 04:52.28 | noiesmo | abrotman, i like being silly i dont really know thats just what i did at the time |
| 04:52.33 | liable | ne0futur: duh, i forgot the :pserver.. :) |
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| 04:53.07 | noiesmo | abrotman, i'm sorry first with the u's now the double ups what next |
| 04:53.21 | jetscreamer | omfg!!!!!!! the agony!!! |
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| 04:53.26 | jetscreamer | !kill me |
| 04:53.33 | jetscreamer | :) |
| 04:54.15 | NOthsouth | how can I access network from konqueror ? |
| 04:54.30 | tyler | how do i check what video card i have in boxen? |
| 04:54.32 | valent|n0 | how can I install driver in linux? and my mouse scroll doesn' |
| 04:54.35 | valent|n0 | doesn't work |
| 04:54.42 | JeffH | anyone? |
| 04:54.43 | valent|n0 | my sound doesn't work |
| 04:54.44 | noiesmo | tyler, lspci should list it |
| 04:55.18 | celeborn | noiesmo: I did find a Linksys nic |
| 04:55.36 | noiesmo | celeborn, well you might as well try it nothing else to loose |
| 04:55.59 | abrotman | lose |
| 04:56.06 | raden | anyone having probs loggin into yahoo messenger tonight ? |
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| 04:56.19 | zeballin3 | valent|n0: there a million page son google to show you how to configure xorg.conf for your mouse. |
| 04:56.19 | celeborn | noiesmo: Does the line "SIOCSIFFLAGS: Device or resource busy" mean anything when the start up is trying to bring up the network? |
| 04:56.36 | abrotman | raden: using ? |
| 04:56.37 | zeballin3 | valent|n0: are you using alsa? |
| 04:56.44 | noiesmo | celeborn, not sure sorry |
| 04:57.09 | raden | abrotman, GAIM , Kopete , Yahoo messenger |
| 04:57.15 | abrotman | raden: ask #gaim ? |
| 04:57.15 | raden | nothing here is working |
| 04:57.39 | noiesmo | abrotman, are you a teacher feel like i'm back at school and my english teachers giving me a hard time hehe |
| 04:58.08 | abrotman | noiesmo: well .. If you used proper spelling/grammar, that probably wouldn't happen :) |
| 04:58.28 | noiesmo | abrotman, haha :) |
| 04:59.20 | abrotman | noiesmo: don't worry .. i'm off to bed soon .. you can say all kinds of stupid things after i leave :) |
| 04:59.55 | Dewi | I'm thinking of running Thunderbird/IMAP on both my office and home machines for the same email account. |
| 05:00.08 | Dewi | How likely is this sort of concurrent access to cause problems? |
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| 05:00.24 | abrotman | Dewi: will both clients be open at the same time ? |
| 05:00.26 | Dewi | (sorry about the kind of OT) |
| 05:00.34 | Dewi | abrotman: open but probably not in active use |
| 05:00.41 | noiesmo | celeborn, the SIOCSIFFLAGS control fail temporarily. Is this a known problem ? A friend suggested that it might have something to do with the Ethernet driver was google responce |
| 05:00.50 | Seldon1975 | raden: yes |
| 05:00.55 | abrotman | Dewi: why would you do that? .. i think it would be ok .. but i can't be certain .. ask on irc.mozilla.org |
| 05:00.58 | vahnx | im new to this whats the best bootable linux cd |
| 05:00.59 | Seldon1975 | raden: gaim crashes if I try |
| 05:01.19 | Dewi | abrotman: because closing my clients would mean I'd miss new mail notifications |
| 05:01.23 | raden | hmmmmm |
| 05:01.29 | Guerin | vahnx: #ubuntu |
| 05:01.39 | abrotman | Dewi: but you can't be at home and work at the same time :) |
| 05:01.43 | Dewi | abrotman: unless I remember to start / stop clients before travelling between locations... that's a bit beyond my ability to organise |
| 05:01.51 | Guerin | Dewi: should be fine. |
| 05:02.12 | Guerin | Dewi: you can check imap from two clients at the same time |
| 05:02.14 | Dewi | I mean I've heard of people even using IMAP in multi-user scenarios |
| 05:02.21 | Dewi | where a bunch of people in the same office have a shared account |
| 05:02.30 | Guerin | yeah, i have shared addresses like that |
| 05:02.34 | abrotman | those are shared folders |
| 05:02.38 | Guerin | nope |
| 05:02.39 | Dewi | I'm just not sure what IMAPd I have, and how well that sort of thing works on *most* implementations |
| 05:02.44 | Dewi | all I know is that my IMAPd is linux based |
| 05:02.48 | NOthsouth | where can I find some non free repos ? |
| 05:02.48 | Guerin | mine are just plain imap accounts |
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| 05:02.58 | Guerin | NOthsouth: /msg dpkg non-free |
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| 05:03.03 | abrotman | Guerin: don't you subscribe to the folder though ? |
| 05:03.17 | Guerin | abrotman: nope. I just check it when I want to see what's in it. |
| 05:03.21 | Dewi | abrotman: you don't subscribe to INBOX |
| 05:03.27 | Dewi | abrotman: it's just... there |
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| 05:03.38 | SimonRaven | subscribing to an imap folder doesn't change anything wrt to access |
| 05:03.39 | abrotman | you can subscribe to any shared folder .. the inbox is a folder |
| 05:03.58 | abrotman | i don't see why i couldn't share my own inbox and let people subscribe to it |
| 05:04.07 | SimonRaven | you're automatically subbed to INBOX |
| 05:04.13 | abrotman | to your own |
| 05:04.22 | SimonRaven | of course |
| 05:04.34 | abrotman | i meant to someone else's .. assuming it's shared |
| 05:05.14 | Guerin | ok |
| 05:05.15 | Dewi | I wonder if there's some way to ask an imapd for its impl/version details |
| 05:05.18 | SimonRaven | sure. just edit the ACLs (in cyrus anyway) so that it's shared |
| 05:05.23 | abrotman | wtf does GM not include Saab in any of their discount shit ? |
| 05:05.24 | Guerin | i have an address foo@bar.org |
| 05:05.40 | Guerin | i know the password to this account, and someone else does too |
| 05:05.50 | Guerin | we both, independently, check the mail there from time to time |
| 05:05.53 | Guerin | simple |
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| 05:06.08 | Supaplex | yawn |
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| 05:06.26 | abrotman | that wasn't exactly what i meant .. and what you're describing .. is just two people who have access to one inbox |
| 05:06.32 | Guerin | yes |
| 05:06.32 | abrotman | afaict anyways |
| 05:06.36 | Guerin | which works fine |
| 05:06.44 | Supaplex | well what else do you want |
| 05:06.47 | Guerin | and that's what dewi was after, was it not? |
| 05:06.56 | Supaplex | fries! |
| 05:06.56 | abrotman | Supaplex: two models and a bottle of tequila |
| 05:07.09 | Supaplex | !strut |
| 05:07.26 | Supaplex | woowoo diecast even |
| 05:07.33 | Guerin | oh ... and a bottle of mezcal |
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| 05:07.53 | abrotman | mmm .. mezcal |
| 05:07.55 | Supaplex | nm the smell of dog urine, its... just old. |
| 05:07.58 | Supaplex | yea that's it. |
| 05:08.26 | Guerin | now to configure apache::gallery |
| 05:08.29 | ne0futur | hum a silly question : |
| 05:08.30 | ne0futur | kiron:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 05:08.31 | ne0futur | 3.1 |
| 05:08.36 | Guerin | and make it use my css |
| 05:08.39 | ne0futur | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:08.43 | mgg | hi guys i seen some linux cert courses and they mention on some of those courses about linux filesystem maintenance, What exactly are they talking about here? |
| 05:08.44 | Guerin | NOthsouth: testing |
| 05:08.47 | Guerin | ne0futur: |
| 05:08.51 | SimonRaven | stable |
| 05:09.08 | ne0futur | ok thanks |
| 05:09.28 | SimonRaven | see you |
| 05:09.36 | Supaplex | ne0futur: check /etc/apt/sources.list if you can't memorize the version number |
| 05:09.55 | ne0futur | ok thanks |
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| 05:11.06 | Supaplex | by dpkg, that's it! |
| 05:11.26 | Supaplex | !cheer |
| 05:11.26 | dpkg | shift to the left, unshift to the right, push down, pop up, byte byte byte. |
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| 05:12.34 | celeborn | noiesmo: I tried something just to try it - I disabled PNP in my bios. My SiS900 is now "1" under used in lsmod, and I can ping - but apt-get install "anything" doesn't seem to work, even after apt-get update |
| 05:12.36 | mfrisch | I got 3-d now Yea Yea Yea |
| 05:13.15 | noiesmo | celeborn, cool problem solved hooray |
| 05:13.23 | Seldon1975 | can anyone please have a look at my question http://pastebin.com/505012 I didnt want to paste flood the channel |
| 05:13.40 | raden | Seldon1975, gimme a sex |
| 05:13.44 | raden | sec |
| 05:13.45 | Seldon1975 | thanx |
| 05:13.58 | mfrisch | raden: ;-) |
| 05:14.14 | Mask | I installed apt 0.6.3.1, but I still ge the "public key" message |
| 05:14.15 | celeborn | noiesmo: well, sort of. I know it has internet now, but I don't have anything on it since I couldn't do anything without apt-get. Now apt-get doesn't seem to work for packages I know work on this comp |
| 05:14.34 | Supaplex | !dont work |
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| 05:14.44 | Supaplex | !don't work |
| 05:14.44 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
| 05:15.06 | jshriver | greetings, odd question... anyone know how I can extract files from a winzip .exe package? I dont have windows, and it crashes via wine |
| 05:15.17 | noiesmo | celeborn, so whats happens when you go apt-get install blah whats the error |
| 05:15.20 | Supaplex | celeborn: nopaste/pastebin a transcript (man script) |
| 05:15.23 | NOthsouth | how can I find out the repository for alioth ???????? .. like deb http://nonfree.alioth.debian.org stable main //??? |
| 05:16.04 | raden | Seldon1975, id say has something todo with your mount fs type |
| 05:16.13 | Seldon1975 | hmm |
| 05:16.19 | raden | not sure though |
| 05:16.19 | Seldon1975 | you dont think it's vfat? |
| 05:16.26 | raden | could possibly be |
| 05:16.33 | mfrisch | is there any good three-d first-person shooter games? |
| 05:16.38 | celeborn | noiesmo: ack, nm, just had to change my sources.list since the install originally tried to use cdrom for apt |
| 05:16.39 | sifi-x | which PDA+OS is recommended? |
| 05:16.50 | Seldon1975 | raden: any harm me trying scsi? |
| 05:16.51 | noiesmo | celeborn, Doh! |
| 05:17.26 | celeborn | noiesmo: I wonder why PNP would cause my NIC not to work though |
| 05:17.53 | noiesmo | celeborn, not sure go google go |
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| 05:19.13 | raden | Seldon1975, cant see why there would be |
| 05:19.24 | raden | anyone know a good learning book for GIMP ? |
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| 05:19.46 | noiesmo | celeborn, check this http://www.linux.com/howtos/Plug-and-Play-HOWTO-3.shtml |
| 05:19.47 | Seldon1975 | raden: so you think the file system "/dev/scsi1" is correct? |
| 05:19.55 | Seldon1975 | rade: given the dmesg output? |
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| 05:20.21 | noiesmo | celeborn, 3.1 |
| 05:20.33 | Seldon1975 | hmm, mount doesnt understnad the fs type 'scsi' |
| 05:20.37 | valent|n0 | I found pages how to configure sound card, but i don't know where to start, one says "I compiled the sound card support as a module (sb.o). Then I put this in /etc/conf.modules:" < -- I can't find conf.modules under my hd |
| 05:20.40 | randey | can any one redirect me to a howto to protect/hide video files with a password |
| 05:20.54 | valent|n0 | I am using sb live 16 |
| 05:21.30 | valent|n0 | this is the page that I am reading http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Config-HOWTO/x43.html#AEN173 |
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| 05:21.39 | celeborn | noiesmo: ah =) |
| 05:21.45 | apikoros | hey -- how do i change the default debian mirror source for apt and other package tools? |
| 05:22.35 | celeborn | noiesmo: under the windows xp: "If you have either of these operating systems it's best to say no" - maybe since I'm dual booting with xp? hm |
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| 05:23.24 | jansenq | edit /etc/apt/sources.list mirrors on debian.org |
| 05:23.37 | apikoros | thanks jansenq |
| 05:23.45 | noiesmo | celeborn, windows xp will be right, just leave it the way it is now |
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| 05:24.26 | jansenq | apikoros: np |
| 05:24.37 | randey | Is there any way to set a password to play a certain video file? |
| 05:25.22 | Seldon1975 | when I add an entry in fstab with <type> = auto I get a message 'mount: you must specify the filesystem type' |
| 05:25.30 | Seldon1975 | do I need to enable the 'auto' fs type? |
| 05:25.55 | apikoros | jansenq: is there no way to bring up the ncurses interface that runs during install that shows mirrors based on region? |
| 05:26.53 | xchg | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:27.05 | raden | brb doing DHCP release |
| 05:27.15 | xchg | ehh...damned little brother got drunk and didn't left to sleep whole night |
| 05:27.40 | jansenq | not sure.. someone else may know... I just edit the file |
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| 05:28.24 | xchg | Seldon1975: you have to |
| 05:28.37 | jetscreamer | Seldon1975: you didn't actually put <type>= did you |
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| 05:33.36 | jshriver | :) |
| 05:33.49 | jshriver | anyone know of any free kana drill programs ? |
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| 05:42.07 | King_Brad | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 05:42.15 | Brian111 | i've got it detected under lsusb but a wlan0 isn't active |
| 05:42.18 | Brian111 | thus i cannot get on |
| 05:42.20 | King_Brad | i keep getting that error when i try and apt-get install webmin-core and some other packages |
| 05:42.22 | King_Brad | any ideas? |
| 05:42.57 | Azar | King_Brad you need to understand and apply your sources correctly |
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| 05:43.08 | King_Brad | huh? |
| 05:43.17 | King_Brad | i used apt-setup to add my apt sources |
| 05:43.27 | Azar | an apt source is : url / + version + options |
| 05:43.49 | King_Brad | yes i know this |
| 05:43.56 | King_Brad | that doesnt help me with this prob i have th |
| 05:44.02 | Azar | King_Brad: depends on which version you use and try to use a package for |
| 05:44.13 | King_Brad | im using all stable sources |
| 05:44.18 | Azar | also, you might want/need non-free option |
| 05:44.22 | King_Brad | got it |
| 05:44.33 | Azar | by chance you opted for non-us? |
| 05:44.34 | King_Brad | its stuck, i cant remove, or add them |
| 05:44.39 | King_Brad | i beleve so |
| 05:44.41 | King_Brad | let me look |
| 05:44.55 | Azar | delete the non-us option if you have it, is obsolete |
| 05:45.00 | King_Brad | no there is no non-us |
| 05:45.12 | King_Brad | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 05:45.12 | King_Brad | deb-src ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main |
| 05:45.17 | King_Brad | is 1 set |
| 05:45.21 | King_Brad | i have 2 other ftps |
| 05:45.28 | King_Brad | same things (stable main) |
| 05:45.32 | King_Brad | just diff mirrors |
| 05:45.35 | Azar | King_Brad: try adding the non-free as well after "main" |
| 05:45.43 | King_Brad | okay |
| 05:45.57 | Azar | as such: / stable main non-free contrib |
| 05:46.02 | King_Brad | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ stable main non-free |
| 05:46.05 | King_Brad | like that |
| 05:46.13 | King_Brad | add contrib at end as well |
| 05:46.15 | Azar | yes add contrib as well |
| 05:46.25 | King_Brad | okay |
| 05:46.39 | Azar | then save and do apt-get update && upgrade |
| 05:47.03 | King_Brad | its doing update now |
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| 05:47.29 | Azar | King_Brad: try reading APT HOWTO at Debian site, you will have to learn more tricks |
| 05:47.30 | jshriver | greetings anyone here use kdrill? |
| 05:47.40 | jshriver | the package seems broken |
| 05:48.00 | Azar | .. not me, just not to let you with the question in the air |
| 05:48.15 | jshriver | :) thanks |
| 05:48.25 | King_Brad | still didnt fix |
| 05:48.31 | King_Brad | whree cna i paste a full output? |
| 05:48.36 | King_Brad | its kinda long |
| 05:48.38 | jshriver | also curious because when I do dpkg -I kdrill or kanadic it says no package |
| 05:48.51 | jshriver | but it's installed because when I do "apt-get install kanadic" it says installed |
| 05:49.08 | Azar | hmmm King_Brad I would not really know, it might be you will need some other package in order to get the one you want |
| 05:49.12 | jshriver | "failed to read archive 'kdrill': No such file or directory |
| 05:49.24 | jshriver | for dpkg -I drill |
| 05:49.28 | King_Brad | dpkg: error processing webmin-firewall (--configure): |
| 05:49.28 | King_Brad | subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 2 |
| 05:49.29 | Azar | or it not might work with a "stable" version... some go up to "testing" for much desired packages |
| 05:49.33 | King_Brad | it says that for all the packages |
| 05:49.45 | King_Brad | core, and bandwidth |
| 05:49.53 | King_Brad | and inetd |
| 05:50.06 | Azar | hmm I really do not know that package |
| 05:50.10 | Azar | never tried such |
| 05:50.24 | King_Brad | how can i clean it so it will stop messin up? |
| 05:50.25 | Azar | try google webmin-firewall Debian see whats going on |
| 05:50.40 | King_Brad | its not only firewall |
| 05:50.40 | Azar | remove it? |
| 05:50.43 | King_Brad | cant |
| 05:50.46 | King_Brad | it gives same error |
| 05:51.04 | King_Brad | Setting up webmin-firewall (1.180-4) ... |
| 05:51.17 | King_Brad | ./etc/webmin/webmin.acl: No such file or directory |
| 05:51.25 | King_Brad | then the other 2lines under that |
| 05:51.37 | Azar | apt-get remove webming or whatever is that is making problems |
| 05:51.46 | Azar | then now try reinstall it with right sources |
| 05:52.31 | King_Brad | Removing webmin-inetd ... |
| 05:52.31 | King_Brad | dpkg: error processing webmin-inetd (--remove): |
| 05:52.31 | King_Brad | subprocess pre-removal script returned error exit status 2 |
| 05:52.31 | King_Brad | Errors were encountered while processing: |
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| 05:52.42 | King_Brad | hrm |
| 05:52.48 | jshriver | hrm... I think my system is messed up... "dpkg -I X" yields the same error... failed to read archive "X" |
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| 05:53.04 | Azar | King_Brad: I really do not know then... |
| 05:53.10 | Azar | never worked with that package |
| 05:53.25 | ansong | i'm suddenly having problems with my wireless card when i try to set the wep key. it gives me: Error for wireless request "Set Encode" (8B2A): set failed on device wlan0 ; invalid argument. any tips? |
| 05:54.09 | celeborn | what changes do I need to make so apt-get upgrade upgrades to testing or unstable? |
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| 05:54.33 | celeborn | er apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:54.35 | odla | celeborn: change the word 'stable' to 'testing' or 'unstable' in sources.list |
| 05:54.46 | odla | then apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 05:54.55 | celeborn | odla ah, thank you |
| 05:55.02 | odla | celeborn: good luck :) |
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| 06:08.47 | ne0futur | apt-cache search dos2unix |
| 06:08.51 | ne0futur | gives nothing for me |
| 06:08.56 | ne0futur | on sarge |
| 06:09.05 | valent|n0 | what do I put in the command line argument? |
| 06:09.12 | tvn | ne0futur: I have dos2unix installed but I don't know which package it belongs to |
| 06:09.24 | ne0futur | it is sysutils |
| 06:09.31 | valent|n0 | I tried sb io=0x220 irq=5 dma=1 dma16=5 mpu_io=0x330 <- it fails |
| 06:09.32 | ne0futur | jshriver: was right |
| 06:09.34 | jshriver | ne0: can you install it though? try "apt-get install sysutils" |
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| 06:09.38 | ne0futur | i now have it |
| 06:09.51 | ne0futur | but think an apt-cache search should have told me |
| 06:09.58 | jshriver | yeah.. not sure why... |
| 06:10.02 | ne0futur | apt-cache search dos2unix |
| 06:10.07 | King_Brad | k done |
| 06:10.07 | raf256 | how can I force dpkg to fix damned depeniences problem? |
| 06:10.08 | jshriver | I'm having some apt-cache/dpkg probs now too so can't really help |
| 06:10.14 | ne0futur | gives something for you all ? |
| 06:10.29 | ne0futur | jshriver: yes install ok |
| 06:10.43 | ne0futur | /usr/bin/dos2unix |
| 06:10.52 | tvn | ne0futur: google gives a better answer when search dos2unix debian :P |
| 06:10.53 | ne0futur | at least all bin/* files should be findable |
| 06:11.04 | valent|n0 | what do I select to install sound card.. xpds-fr ? or pc style hardware? |
| 06:11.07 | ne0futur | you often need a package by bin name |
| 06:11.25 | ne0futur | ( ans urpmf dos2unix works . . . ;) |
| 06:11.33 | ne0futur | </urpmf troll > |
| 06:11.40 | raf256 | how to fix that? http://pastebin.com/505048 |
| 06:12.36 | ne0futur | dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) |
| 06:12.41 | ne0futur | killed by broken pipe |
| 06:12.56 | raf256 | ...? |
| 06:13.08 | ne0futur | try a strace 1>a 2>b and have a look at the end |
| 06:13.17 | ne0futur | the last 3000 lines ;) |
| 06:13.20 | raf256 | ne0futur: isnt it obvious? |
| 06:13.27 | mtnman | valentino: you need to find out the correct interrupts. you can try all the possible values, or you can try to figure it out via a web search. |
| 06:13.31 | raf256 | "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop', which is also in package libdjvulibre15" |
| 06:13.37 | raf256 | this is a dependiences problem |
| 06:13.59 | raf256 | how to tell dpkg to dont f#@$$% care about overwriting and just install the @*$! package |
| 06:14.01 | ne0futur | I suppose dependencies problems often happen |
| 06:14.11 | ne0futur | without leading to a broken pipe killing apt ;) |
| 06:14.34 | ne0futur | but would try a strace to see |
| 06:14.41 | raf256 | omfg, to see what? |
| 06:14.46 | raf256 | the error is given |
| 06:14.49 | Azar | unstable looks cool at the beginning, then slowly surprises show up |
| 06:14.50 | raf256 | trying to overwrite `/usr/share/mimelnk/image/x-djvu.desktop' |
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| 06:15.05 | ne0futur | to see if there is only the dependency pb |
| 06:15.11 | raf256 | how to force f%^&* to install it anyway |
| 06:15.18 | ne0futur | or also a perm pb |
| 06:15.25 | ne0futur | or grsec killing exec stack |
| 06:15.33 | lilo | all done |
| 06:15.41 | valent|n0 | oh man .. how do I access CD drive ? |
| 06:15.51 | ne0futur | mount /mnt/cdrom |
| 06:15.56 | ne0futur | ls /mnt/cdrom |
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| 06:16.08 | bluenail | Is there a debian utility for cleaning print heads (or do I just print a big square of each colour?) |
| 06:16.43 | valent|n0 | can't find cd rom .. can I use my GUI , I have the desktop running |
| 06:17.17 | ne0futur | raf256: /var/cache/apt/archives/kdelibs-data_4%3a3.5.0-3_all.deb |
| 06:17.24 | ne0futur | what is ths %3a |
| 06:17.26 | raf256 | ne0futur: and? |
| 06:17.27 | ne0futur | is it normal ? |
| 06:17.31 | raf256 | I dunno |
| 06:17.40 | ne0futur | probably related to the pb |
| 06:17.46 | raf256 | I want to get the m** f*** libdjvulibre15 b**** out of the system |
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| 06:17.51 | raf256 | and freaking apt-get dont allow me to |
| 06:18.11 | raf256 | how tell dpkg/apt/whatever to kick the shit out of system, even if it brakes some depeniences |
| 06:18.33 | ne0futur | valent|n0: thee are many gui for it ;) you 'll have to find a kde or gnome specialist ;) |
| 06:18.38 | raf256 | isnt there like --dont-give-a-f-about-dependiences? |
| 06:18.42 | Azar | apt-get remove --purge f*** s*** |
| 06:18.53 | ne0futur | raf256: try dselect |
| 06:18.56 | croddy | --force-depends |
| 06:18.58 | ne0futur | uninstall many |
| 06:19.00 | ne0futur | and reinstall |
| 06:19.01 | croddy | but don't complain if it pisses its pants |
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| 06:19.09 | raf256 | Azar: this dont work |
| 06:19.14 | mtnman | raf256: man dpkg. iirc, there is something like --force |
| 06:19.14 | valent|n0 | thx.. |
| 06:19.20 | bluenail | valent|n0 does 'mount -t auto /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom' work? if so, then after you do this (at each boot) you can access it on the /mnt/cdrom file (if it doesn't work you have a deeper problem) |
| 06:19.32 | King_Brad | Guerin r u around? |
| 06:19.50 | Guerin | King_Brad: y? |
| 06:19.51 | Azar | King_Brad: Guerin does not like r and u |
| 06:19.56 | King_Brad | Guerin i need help :( |
| 06:20.01 | Guerin | King_Brad: i need beer. |
| 06:20.07 | King_Brad | hehe |
| 06:20.10 | King_Brad | i know that feeling |
| 06:20.12 | raf256 | ne0futur: what is the dselect option to remove foo package? |
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| 06:20.29 | King_Brad | Guerin can you take a look at my problem in #flood |
| 06:20.30 | King_Brad | please |
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| 06:20.39 | Guerin | King_Brad: /msg dpkg paster |
| 06:20.48 | valent|n0 | mmm block device, mounting read only ... mount point . /mnt/cdrom does not exist |
| 06:20.48 | King_Brad | ? |
| 06:20.57 | valent|n0 | no driver? |
| 06:21.00 | raf256 | grrrrrrrr |
| 06:21.08 | odla | King_Brad: use www.pastebin.com |
| 06:21.10 | Guerin | !paster King_Brad |
| 06:21.10 | dpkg | King_Brad: put your output on http://channels.debian.net/paste so we can see it. DO NOT paste into the channel. |
| 06:21.14 | raf256 | how can I remove package foo while not giving a f* about dependieces? |
| 06:21.15 | bluenail | valent|n0 mkdir /mnt/cdrom |
| 06:21.15 | liable | raf256: try --force-overwrite |
| 06:21.28 | raf256 | liable: to which program? |
| 06:21.28 | liable | raf256: with dpkg.. |
| 06:21.28 | JeffH | Does anyone use courier-imap and connect to it using Outlook? Occasionally Outlook will complain to me it can't connect to the server. Anyone know why that might be? |
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| 06:21.35 | raf256 | liable: how do I remove package foo using dpkg? |
| 06:21.35 | bluenail | valent|n0 and try again |
| 06:21.35 | valent|n0 | done |
| 06:21.38 | valent|n0 | try again . ok thx |
| 06:21.45 | newjunk_ | hmm |
| 06:21.53 | King_Brad | done |
| 06:21.54 | liable | raf256: just install the kde one with the force option. |
| 06:22.02 | raf256 | kde one? |
| 06:22.03 | Guerin | JeffH: outlook is stupid |
| 06:22.14 | valent|n0 | mount : block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected. mounting read only.. its good? |
| 06:22.21 | JeffH | figures that's the answer I'd get. |
| 06:22.25 | valent|n0 | now how can I read whats in the cd? |
| 06:22.29 | bluenail | valent|n0 yes, it means it works :) |
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| 06:22.32 | JeffH | anyone have a real answer? |
| 06:22.36 | SimonRaven | lookout is a POC |
| 06:22.48 | bluenail | valent|n0 that might have been all you need, but if you want we can check further? |
| 06:22.49 | ne0futur | valent|n0: open a browser like mozilla or konqueror |
| 06:22.50 | Azar | valent|n0: take a look at how is listed in /etc/fstab |
| 06:22.55 | ne0futur | and go /mnt/cdrom |
| 06:22.59 | valent|n0 | ok |
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| 06:23.01 | SimonRaven | connections get lost... deal :P |
| 06:23.25 | ne0futur | raf256: - and + to remove and add |
| 06:23.26 | raf256 | dpkg: dependency problems prevent removal of libdjvulibre1 |
| 06:23.28 | mtnman | jeffh: the truth is that you'll have a tough time finding the answer questions about outlook on this channel. |
| 06:23.32 | liable | who wants to debug some kernel module code.. :( |
| 06:23.32 | raf256 | how to make dpkg disregard that |
| 06:23.35 | ne0futur | then enter to validate dependencies |
| 06:23.46 | ne0futur | and enter to leave choices |
| 06:23.46 | liable | raf256: man dpkg |
| 06:23.50 | SimonRaven | considering this isn't #windows, yeh |
| 06:23.55 | raf256 | liable: I did. --force dont work |
| 06:23.56 | croddy | raf i think maybe the package dependencies are on purpose |
| 06:24.02 | SperMite | man breath mints |
| 06:24.03 | ne0futur | is dselect obsolete with newest debian ? |
| 06:24.06 | valent|n0 | cool .. I see it now .. thx .. <-- wow so complicated for me it is .. thx |
| 06:24.10 | mtnman | jeffh: i would suggest posting to the courier-imap mailing list. |
| 06:24.13 | raf256 | croddy: they are f*** up probably |
| 06:24.15 | SimonRaven | no, man breath_mints |
| 06:24.23 | valent|n0 | I don't have /ect/fstab <-- what is that? |
| 06:24.30 | SimonRaven | ne0futur: nah, a lot of people still use it |
| 06:24.32 | Guerin | JeffH: you haven't given us enough information for a more detailed answer than that. |
| 06:24.33 | SperMite | SimonRaven =( |
| 06:24.33 | ne0futur | valent|n0: yes you have /etc/fstab |
| 06:24.41 | SimonRaven | valent|n0: it's "/etc" |
| 06:24.45 | ne0futur | valent|n0: do you know who is root on linux ? |
| 06:24.52 | Azar | valent|n0: if you do a : ls /etc/fstab you will see there how your cdrom is listed |
| 06:24.53 | JeffH | mntman: I"M not looking for outlook answers here. I"M Looking for courier-imap answers here. |
| 06:24.57 | raf256 | ah, --force-all did worked |
| 06:24.59 | SperMite | man tic-tacs |
| 06:25.02 | King_Brad | Guerin any ideas? |
| 06:25.04 | ne0futur | dselect is difficult to understand at the beginning |
| 06:25.07 | bluenail | valent|n0 the command I gave you only sets up the cdrom each time, you'll have to do it again each reboot and each new cdrom... |
| 06:25.09 | ne0futur | but i really like it |
| 06:25.26 | Azar | valent|n0: errr: less /etc/fstab |
| 06:25.42 | valent|n0 | how do I make it mount automatically after each reboot.. |
| 06:25.52 | SimonRaven | you don't want that |
| 06:25.53 | bluenail | valent|n0 listen to Azar, he's working on it for you |
| 06:25.58 | SimonRaven | not cdrom ... |
| 06:26.02 | ne0futur | valent|n0: you have to modify /etc/fstab |
| 06:26.04 | ne0futur | as root |
| 06:26.05 | mtnman | jeffh: if i understand you correctly, you asked about something relating to the way imap and outlook interact... is this correct? |
| 06:26.12 | ne0futur | (07:24) < ne0futur> valent|n0: do you know who is root on linux ? |
| 06:26.14 | valent|n0 | ok .. I am on less /etc/fstab |
| 06:26.20 | ne0futur | you need to be root to touch system config |
| 06:26.26 | valent|n0 | ne0futur : no |
| 06:26.32 | Guerin | King_Brad: here's an idea: how about you paste your output to a pastebin and show us the url |
| 06:26.39 | JeffH | yes.. just wondering if there's something in courier-imap configured wrong that could be causing the problem. |
| 06:26.41 | valent|n0 | I think I am root.. but I am not sure |
| 06:26.46 | King_Brad | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1553 |
| 06:26.48 | ne0futur | in a terminal |
| 06:26.48 | ne0futur | type |
| 06:26.49 | ne0futur | id |
| 06:26.53 | SimonRaven | i guess i have an answer to "WTF has cdrom mount at boot auto?" |
| 06:26.53 | King_Brad | sorry, thought the bot messaged you or something |
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| 06:26.53 | JeffH | IOW I'm not convinced it's a client side problem. |
| 06:26.55 | ne0futur | what does it say ? |
| 06:27.00 | valent|n0 | I just did less /etc/fstab |
| 06:27.10 | valent|n0 | ID : I am root |
| 06:27.16 | valent|n0 | GID=0 |
| 06:27.19 | ne0futur | ok |
| 06:27.20 | ne0futur | /dev/hdb /media/cdrom0 iso9660 ro,user,noauto 0 0 |
| 06:27.28 | mtnman | jeffh: well, still think that posting to the courier-imap mailing list would be your best bet. |
| 06:27.28 | ne0futur | see this line in etc/fstab ? |
| 06:27.38 | valent|n0 | yes |
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| 06:27.43 | ne0futur | replace noauto with auto |
| 06:27.48 | raf256 | omfg, debian packages page is STILL down? its been a week! |
| 06:27.49 | JeffH | mtnman: very well could be. Thanks for pointing me in that direction. |
| 06:27.51 | ne0futur | or just remove noauto |
| 06:27.53 | ne0futur | and the , |
| 06:28.01 | mtnman | jeffh: you're welcome and good luck. |
| 06:28.08 | ne0futur | but you should not put cdrom automount |
| 06:28.09 | JeffH | thanks. |
| 06:28.12 | ne0futur | you loose time at boot |
| 06:28.14 | ne0futur | when not needed |
| 06:28.24 | SimonRaven | !tell ne0futur -about enter |
| 06:28.27 | JeffH | I don't seem to be so good lately at configuring shit in Linux. |
| 06:28.37 | valent|n0 | errr.. ok .. but I dunno how to change noauto :x .. *_* |
| 06:28.49 | JeffH | gotten soft and used to the 'it just works' approach of windows. |
| 06:28.50 | valent|n0 | oh |
| 06:28.54 | ne0futur | lol ok SimonRaven |
| 06:28.55 | valent|n0 | just leave it noauto? |
| 06:29.01 | Azar | valent|n0: you have to learn using an editor in terminal |
| 06:29.15 | valent|n0 | ok |
| 06:29.30 | mtnman | jeffh: well, it works until it doesn't anymore. as opposed to linux where it may take a while to get it right, but then it keeps working. |
| 06:29.33 | valent|n0 | less is an aplication for editing stuff is it? |
| 06:29.43 | ne0futur | try to learn vi / vim |
| 06:29.46 | SimonRaven | no |
| 06:29.53 | ne0futur | but now you can user kwrite or nedit |
| 06:29.53 | SimonRaven | let him use nano |
| 06:29.55 | Azar | valent|n0: no, less , more and cat are "viewers" of file contents |
| 06:29.56 | bluenail | valent|n0 no, just a viewer, hit q to exit less, then type nano /etc/fstab |
| 06:30.08 | valent|n0 | ok |
| 06:30.09 | JeffH | mtnman: there is truth to that point. Though its fairly easy to keep things working without a hitch in Windows. |
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| 06:30.16 | SimonRaven | it's called a pager, FYI |
| 06:30.26 | SimonRaven | less, more, most |
| 06:30.39 | Azar | SimonRaven: quite right, but I used more mundanae language |
| 06:30.49 | mtnman | jeffh: i will have to take your word for it. i quit at win95. |
| 06:30.58 | valent|n0 | so I want to change noauto to auto ? or you recommend leaving it to noauto to speed up boot, and mount it everytime I need it? |
| 06:31.12 | SimonRaven | leave it noauto |
| 06:31.15 | Azar | valent|n0: why would you want to have cdrom mounted at bootup? |
| 06:31.15 | valent|n0 | ok |
| 06:31.28 | valent|n0 | I dunno .. i am a windows user :P |
| 06:31.35 | Azar | :) hehe |
| 06:31.47 | valent|n0 | now I am gonna try if my nic is working.. how do you do ipconfig ? |
| 06:31.49 | Azar | no need, you can "mount" and "umount" a cdrom any time you want |
| 06:32.02 | ne0futur | !factinfo seamonkey |
| 06:32.02 | dpkg | seamonkey -- created by \ifvoid <bas@warande1131.warande.uu.nl> at Mon Aug 14 17:04:58 2000 (1978 days); has not been requested yet. |
| 06:32.05 | SimonRaven | man ifconfig, man interfaces |
| 06:32.07 | Azar | linux has "ifconfig" |
| 06:32.22 | valent|n0 | azar gnome should have a shortcut for it right, instead of ddoing it on command line all the time? |
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| 06:32.33 | SimonRaven | what he could do is is set 'user' on it if it's not there already |
| 06:32.37 | ne0futur | yes I recommend leaving it to noauto to speed up boot |
| 06:32.38 | croddy | valent|n0: yes. you may even find that it mounts itself automatically. |
| 06:32.53 | valent|n0 | ok |
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| 06:33.10 | bluenail | valent|n0 no offence intended, but I kinda suggust you buy "Linux For Dummies" (I read its predesoser UNIX for dummies myself, when I was new) |
| 06:33.16 | j1p | I just installed Debian using the latest testing netinstall on my Dell D610 laptop, i installed Desktop, Laptop and Standard System, my mouse is going haywire, any way I can fix that? |
| 06:33.18 | Azar | valent|n0: you should spend some time in plain terminal and learn... goodies can come later: http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals |
| 06:33.23 | valent|n0 | yea I agree.. |
| 06:33.30 | SimonRaven | !drxx j1p |
| 06:33.34 | Azar | read the manuals |
| 06:33.35 | dpkg | j1p: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 06:33.40 | valent|n0 | any other good resource on line? |
| 06:33.47 | valent|n0 | for dummy |
| 06:33.50 | Azar | valent|n0: you have plenty there |
| 06:33.53 | King_Brad | Guerin any ideas? |
| 06:33.55 | SimonRaven | !rutebook |
| 06:33.55 | dpkg | well, rutebook is an excellent book to learn about GNU/Linux - apt-get install rutebook |
| 06:34.05 | raf256 | rutebook.. hmm |
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| 06:34.24 | valent|n0 | ok |
| 06:34.57 | SimonRaven | you might need to run apt-setup to add 'contrib non-free' to /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 06:35.00 | Azar | valent|n0: stay at command line on an xterm and learn this for example : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/user/ch-files.html |
| 06:35.19 | King_Brad | SimonRaven r u talking to me? |
| 06:35.24 | bluenail | valent|n0 you are using Debian, right (that's why you're here, right?) |
| 06:35.29 | valent|n0 | yup |
| 06:35.46 | valent|n0 | mmm cdrom won't eject, i guess I have to unmount them first |
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| 06:36.04 | bluenail | I am about to be flamed, and possibly DOS'd but I'd recomend starting with a different distro, I'd really start with Ubuntu |
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| 06:36.20 | SimonRaven | King_Brad: no |
| 06:36.21 | Azar | valent|n0: " umount" , not " unmount" |
| 06:36.41 | valent|n0 | thx |
| 06:36.56 | Azar | valent|n0: definitely do the interactive tutorial in the link I gave you |
| 06:37.16 | valent|n0 | one last question , How do I know what debian ver, GDP version , and my IP address ? |
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| 06:37.48 | croddy | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 06:37.53 | croddy | /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 06:38.32 | valent|n0 | and what kind of gui I have ? ... |
| 06:38.35 | Seldon1975 | hi; i just installed Debian sarge; where is Postgres located? |
| 06:38.52 | SimonRaven | GDP version? |
| 06:39.00 | SimonRaven | !installit |
| 06:39.00 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
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| 06:39.56 | valent|n0 | mm |
| 06:40.04 | bluenail | valent|n0 the two most likly GUI's that would have been installed, GNOME and KDE will have a splash screen upon booting, did yours? (do you recognize either of those words?) |
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| 06:40.17 | valent|n0 | I think I have gdp .. thats a kind of gui right? .. yea KDE |
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| 06:40.25 | croddy | gross domestic product |
| 06:40.32 | SimonRaven | gdm more likely ;) |
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| 06:40.40 | croddy | perhaps he means gdb |
| 06:40.42 | valent|n0 | :D .. |
| 06:40.57 | valent|n0 | gdm I meant :) .. is that gnome? |
| 06:40.59 | valent|n0 | no? |
| 06:41.11 | SimonRaven | yes. it's the 'gnome display manager' |
| 06:41.15 | valent|n0 | KDE is what? .. all this term I don't understant |
| 06:41.18 | croddy | gdm is a display manager, it just handles login and x sessions |
| 06:41.23 | valent|n0 | ic |
| 06:41.25 | croddy | it could be used to start kde, wmaker... anything |
| 06:41.30 | valent|n0 | ic |
| 06:41.39 | bluenail | valent|n0 when you're about to log in, click sessions and it will probably say "gnome" but that's the way to find out (it will give you choices, use the default) |
| 06:41.42 | liable | !ic |
| 06:41.42 | dpkg | ic is, like, (AKA) 'slurpy' or a conspiracy by the Indo-American community to take over your neighborhood via inexpensive groceries and snacks, or Integrated Circuit or "I see" for MORONS who are too lazy to type properly (I C). Imperial College, London |
| 06:42.37 | valent|n0 | so I guess I have kde.. is there version of kde.. so if I am looking for support about navigating in KDE, where to mount and unmount, change ip .. where do I look .. KDE support? |
| 06:42.37 | bluenail | valent|n0 or if there is a footprint in the upper left corner (or elsewhere really) of your screen, that works kinda like a start button, you're in gnome |
| 06:42.57 | valent|n0 | I have a big K on my bottom left screen |
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| 06:43.10 | valent|n0 | the big K is looks like my start button |
| 06:43.15 | bluenail | valent|n0 that would be KDE |
| 06:43.49 | valent|n0 | ok .. thx for the patients all |
| 06:44.09 | liable | call me Dr Nick :) |
| 06:44.14 | SimonRaven | you a doctor? |
| 06:44.21 | liable | heh, no. |
| 06:44.22 | bluenail | valent|n0 All of were new once, good luck and read as much as you can |
| 06:44.33 | valent|n0 | patience .. :) |
| 06:44.47 | Azar | and this is what is happening when the installer auto installs X for the new linux users.. |
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| 06:45.13 | SimonRaven | Dr. Richard Head |
| 06:45.20 | Azar | :) |
| 06:45.22 | bluenail | Azar and doesn't automount the cdrom, if it had he'd have never have had the problem |
| 06:45.22 | buu | Hrm. I've got 5 raid pci cards plugged in, but lspci only shows me 4. |
| 06:45.29 | liable | oh, thats nasty.. |
| 06:45.51 | SimonRaven | heh heh heh |
| 06:46.04 | Azar | bluenail, i have no idea why cdrom "should" automount |
| 06:46.21 | bluenail | Azar hrmm bad wordchoice, should have said auto mount/unmount |
| 06:46.22 | raf256 | help |
| 06:46.29 | raf256 | cant find mime type: application/octet-stream |
| 06:46.32 | raf256 | what the fuck is that?! |
| 06:46.33 | buu | haha, sucker. |
| 06:46.38 | raf256 | after doing some upgrades |
| 06:46.39 | SimonRaven | sucka |
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| 06:46.40 | buu | raf256: It's "data" |
| 06:46.40 | Azar | bluenail, he should read and practice a little in a term... |
| 06:46.52 | raf256 | which package have description of mime types used in KDE?? |
| 06:47.04 | croddy | i believe that refers to a piece by steve reich |
| 06:47.06 | buu | raf256: octet-stream isn't any specific data. |
| 06:47.23 | bluenail | Azar if he ever wants to be a sysadmin, yes. If he is content to have an OS he can use for browsing and writing a paper without it crashing, we're almost at the point he doesn't need to |
| 06:47.25 | raf256 | buu: I dont care. I need to fix KDE application |
| 06:47.38 | croddy | ~fix kde |
| 06:47.39 | apt | ACTION takes kde to the vet for a "special" visit. |
| 06:47.39 | buu | Oh well. |
| 06:47.55 | buu | I'm more worried about my own problems. |
| 06:47.59 | raf256 | which package hold freaking desctriptions of damn MIME types? |
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| 06:48.19 | Azar | bluenail, its been 3 years I am trying to learn linux Debian, and still I do not consider myself able to be a sysadmin |
| 06:48.51 | Azar | he does not yet know what ls, less, are and jumps on the cdrom |
| 06:48.54 | buu | Oh and what's the fdisk like utility that would list all the disks I have plugged in? |
| 06:50.00 | bluenail | Azar Linux is progressing wonderfully to the point that it is getting close to the "just works" point, the need of the console skills is decreasing, and this is a good thing if we want Linux to catch on to the point that we can stop writing our own drivers |
| 06:50.21 | Azar | I wish learning bash scripting but I am still struggling to understand how to configure a simple environment |
| 06:50.35 | raf256 | I think the user space drivers are the futures |
| 06:50.39 | croddy | bluenail: i'm pretty satisfied with the status quo. |
| 06:50.53 | raf256 | or other way so that I dont have to rebuild entire kernel |
| 06:50.57 | raf256 | to get new drivers |
| 06:51.03 | bluenail | raf256 I'm talking about vendor-supplied drivers |
| 06:51.14 | raf256 | bluenail: me ti |
| 06:51.16 | raf256 | me to |
| 06:51.29 | Azar | bluenail, maybe you are right, but I do not condone yet another "windows" style of educating users. |
| 06:52.03 | buu | pfdisk? Something like that |
| 06:52.04 | Azar | bluenail: that's why I left windows in the first place: to get the ability to learn and "own" my system |
| 06:52.25 | liable | i think the somewhat difficult nature of linux is great in culling the retarded users that deserve to be using windows.. |
| 06:52.33 | buu | Ah, cfdisk |
| 06:52.42 | bluenail | Azar i kinda figured, well, we have differences of opinion, i think a computer should be easy to learn the basics of then work on the underpinnings |
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| 06:53.20 | Azar | liable, fortunately there are many other linux distros for "windows" users, I hope Debian will not become one like those |
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| 06:53.29 | bluenail | liable ah, eletism |
| 06:53.36 | Guerin | bluenail: why? |
| 06:53.39 | JeffH | has anyone here implemented a snapshot backup from a windows machine to a Linux server? |
| 06:53.46 | liable | bluenail: not at all. |
| 06:53.47 | bluenail | Azar which is why I sugguested he go to Ubuntu, there I agree |
| 06:53.51 | buu | Hey liable |
| 06:53.51 | JeffH | If so I'd love to hear how you implemented it. |
| 06:53.53 | Guerin | bluenail: debian will be what debian developers want it to be. |
| 06:54.16 | bluenail | I'm speaking in general of GNU/Linux here, not Debian in specific |
| 06:54.26 | liable | buu: hi, did you get lilo to boot the kernel? |
| 06:54.27 | croddy | JeffH: smbmount the appropriate share and do a "local" rsync? you could even get fancy and install dirvish. |
| 06:54.28 | Azar | bluenail, no is not elitism but I guess people who are curious and want to learn deserve to have a system free of "auto" gadgets |
| 06:54.35 | buu | liable: No =[ |
| 06:54.40 | buu | liable: Did you catch my message this morning? |
| 06:54.46 | King_Brad | Guerin did u get a chance to look at my problem? |
| 06:54.56 | liable | buu: no |
| 06:54.59 | JeffH | croddy: I've been trying to implement dirvish.. but can't seem to get the windows rsync server working. |
| 06:54.59 | bluenail | Azar agreed, both should be possible, choice is good |
| 06:55.08 | Guerin | King_Brad: i still haven't seen you post a link |
| 06:55.15 | buu | liable: I couldn't make lilo give me a menu so I went and made my new kernel the 'default boot' option. Then I rebooted. Then it failed to load. |
| 06:55.16 | King_Brad | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1553 |
| 06:55.21 | buu | liable: At that point I gave up and went to sleep. |
| 06:55.43 | JeffH | Dirvish sounds like the perfect solution.. if only I could get it working. |
| 06:55.46 | liable | heh |
| 06:55.56 | Guerin | King_Brad: apt-get -f install; |
| 06:56.01 | buu | liable: So I got a copy of debian stable at work, now I'm trying to make it recognize my raid cards =[ |
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| 06:56.06 | croddy | JeffH: dirvish can work with a local directory hierarchy just fine. you might try using samba to mount a share from the windows box, and then point dirvish at that |
| 06:56.20 | raf256 | buu: hardware raid sucks ass hard, doesnt it? |
| 06:56.21 | Azar | bluenail: soon there will be game-like entertainment consoles that will be worked with a remote control from the couch for viewing movies, listening movies , surfing the net .. oh no wait! we already have them |
| 06:56.29 | King_Brad | Guerin i did that |
| 06:56.33 | raf256 | software it told to be more configurable (although I didnt used it yet) |
| 06:56.39 | Azar | ** "listening songs" |
| 06:56.45 | JeffH | croddy: well.. not sure how well that would work given I want to snapshot my entire windows partition. |
| 06:56.48 | buu | raf256: Eh? Actually I was going to do software raid, I'm just using the cards as expansion sata controllers |
| 06:56.54 | croddy | raf256: that depends. i have an it8212 here at home that works flawlessly. at work i've been battling a dell perc4/di for several months. |
| 06:56.55 | bluenail | Azar we just need to add word processing and printing to WebTV :) |
| 06:56.56 | raf256 | ah |
| 06:57.02 | liable | buu: good luck with the sarge kernel. |
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| 06:57.10 | King_Brad | Guerin all i really what todo at this point is i guess clean apt so i can install other stuff |
| 06:57.11 | buu | liable: Er, why? |
| 06:57.18 | King_Brad | but i've done apt-get clean and didnt help |
| 06:57.21 | Azar | bluenailk there is WP and printing on WebTV, I had one |
| 06:57.27 | liable | buu: not much support for new raid chips. |
| 06:57.29 | Guerin | King_Brad: apt-get remove --purge webmin |
| 06:57.39 | Guerin | King_Brad: and the other webmin packages |
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| 06:57.49 | King_Brad | new error |
| 06:57.51 | King_Brad | atleast |
| 06:57.59 | Guerin | you shouldn't be using webmin anyway - even the debian maintainer has disowned it |
| 06:57.59 | buu | liable: Argh. Which kernel do I need then? |
| 06:58.03 | bluenail | Azar hrmm either there didn't used to be or the guy who was trying to sell me one once didn't know what he was talking about... |
| 06:58.19 | ne0futur | I use webmin |
| 06:58.23 | buu | liable: Or better yet, help! solve all my problems =[ |
| 06:58.25 | ne0futur | why is it so bad ? |
| 06:58.28 | King_Brad | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1554 |
| 06:58.29 | liable | buu: fucked if i know, depends what raid cards you have. |
| 06:58.39 | liable | !fic buu |
| 06:58.41 | Azar | bluenail: not only wp and print but also image manipulation, mail, browser, and many more... |
| 06:58.44 | liable | !fix buu |
| 06:58.51 | buu | liable: I can't find a friggin brand name |
| 06:58.52 | ne0futur | there s no debian maintainer for webmin ? |
| 06:59.01 | ne0futur | !factinfo webmin |
| 06:59.01 | dpkg | webmin -- last modified at Tue Apr 27 00:18:58 2004 by greycat!rfc1413@wooledge.org; it has been requested 247 times, last by abrotman at Tue Nov 29 18:14:28 2005. |
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| 06:59.19 | bluenail | Azar nice, if I had disposable income I might have to get one... |
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| 06:59.23 | Azar | bluenail: I had webTV for 3 years back in the '98 up to 2002 |
| 06:59.24 | Guerin | !+webmin |
| 06:59.24 | dpkg | webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Using any browser that supports tables and forms, you can setup user accounts, internet services, DNS, file sharing and so on. Check it out at http://webmin.com/security.html but, remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. don't use it!, or "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." |
| 06:59.24 | King_Brad | is there something like webmin i can use? |
| 06:59.25 | liable | !maint webmin |
| 06:59.38 | Guerin | !webmin is also http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2005/12/msg00790.html |
| 06:59.38 | dpkg | Guerin: that's too long |
| 06:59.41 | Guerin | damn you |
| 06:59.48 | Azar | bluenail: too late it was bought and now run by the Vole... do not do that they ruined it |
| 07:00.03 | croddy | King_Brad: are you looking for a nice iptables firewall frontend, or some more general administration tool |
| 07:00.11 | liable | buu: lspci.. |
| 07:00.14 | buu | liable: Ahah, I found a disk |
| 07:00.15 | King_Brad | general administration |
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| 07:00.28 | bluenail | Azar ok, I'll just get a Mac Mini when I have the income then :) |
| 07:00.30 | ne0futur | does maintaining webmin means maintaining all the additional modules ? or could I maintain only core webmin ? |
| 07:00.48 | ansong | croddy, i'm looking for a nice iptables firewall frontend... any suggestions? |
| 07:00.49 | buu | liable: 0000:00:0d.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc.: Unknown device 3249 (rev 50).. |
| 07:00.50 | liable | !hurry up |
| 07:00.50 | dpkg | no fsck you! |
| 07:01.00 | King_Brad | Guerin did u see that last link i posted? |
| 07:01.03 | croddy | ansong: you might check out firestarter. it's pretty nice. |
| 07:01.12 | liable | buu: update-pciids |
| 07:01.21 | King_Brad | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1555 |
| 07:01.23 | ansong | croddy, i'll check it out |
| 07:01.24 | King_Brad | thats the latest one |
| 07:01.40 | ne0futur | (07:59) < dpkg> webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix |
| 07:01.54 | ne0futur | I had a look at the code and ACLs of webmin |
| 07:02.01 | buu | liable: Eh, program? Command to program/ |
| 07:02.05 | ne0futur | I see no reason to say it's unsecure |
| 07:02.10 | liable | buu: thats it.. |
| 07:02.23 | Guerin | ne0futur: it gives root-over-http |
| 07:02.26 | buu | liable: Er, what's it? |
| 07:02.35 | buu | And more importantly, how do I get it? |
| 07:02.37 | Guerin | ne0futur: you can nuke virtually anything with the click of a mouse |
| 07:02.50 | Guerin | it's prone to having your root password cached in web browsers |
| 07:02.53 | ne0futur | Guerin: you can create a non root user |
| 07:03.00 | liable | buu: type it.. |
| 07:03.01 | tyler | any way for me to get codecs to work.. when i compiled mplayer before i unpacked my codecs? |
| 07:03.03 | ne0futur | with access to only 1 module if needed |
| 07:03.03 | Guerin | it destroys config files and leaves admins clueless |
| 07:03.05 | King_Brad | i was wanting to use swat to config samba, but couldnt cnfig it |
| 07:03.12 | buu | liable: haha, sorry, I was trying to install it. |
| 07:03.14 | King_Brad | so i went to install webmin and got in this damn mess |
| 07:03.17 | ne0futur | (08:03) < Guerin> it destroys config files and leaves admins clueless |
| 07:03.27 | Guerin | ne0futur: anything can be made moderately secure with sufficient work. |
| 07:03.27 | King_Brad | seems like noone knows how to make it go away :( |
| 07:03.28 | croddy | tyler, /msg dpkg mplayer |
| 07:03.29 | buu | liable: 0000:00:0c.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6421 IDE RAID Controller (rev 50) |
| 07:03.40 | liable | buu: congrats, no google it.. |
| 07:03.43 | buu | =[ |
| 07:03.44 | liable | now.. |
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| 07:03.46 | buu | Ok fine. |
| 07:03.51 | bluenail | Guerin anything? What about windows 98? |
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| 07:03.59 | Guerin | ne0futur: i had it ruin httpd configs, qmmail configs, bind configs |
| 07:03.59 | valdyn | !which driver |
| 07:03.59 | dpkg | Try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ to find out which driver supports your device. |
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| 07:04.04 | croddy | simple. extinguish the power supply. |
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| 07:04.15 | Guerin | bluenail: dict sufficient |
| 07:04.20 | liable | buu: http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html |
| 07:04.33 | ne0futur | I dont use it for anything, preferring ssh and vi for many things |
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| 07:04.44 | ne0futur | but it saved me when I had ssh access problems |
| 07:04.57 | King_Brad | Guerin is there a way to just clean apt so to speak? make it forget about those packages? |
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| 07:04.59 | Guerin | ne0futur: I run two sshds |
| 07:05.04 | Guerin | King_Brad: remove them. |
| 07:05.09 | ne0futur | ( when too many attacks made processes killed by grsec, even sshd . . . ) |
| 07:05.10 | King_Brad | remove them? |
| 07:05.19 | King_Brad | it says they arent even there to begin with! |
| 07:05.23 | croddy | not so easily done when the prerm script crashes |
| 07:05.28 | Guerin | King_Brad: then you have no problems. |
| 07:05.37 | King_Brad | cpet i cant apt-get install anything |
| 07:05.41 | King_Brad | thats a small prob i'd think |
| 07:05.48 | Guerin | remove the prerm script from /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.prerm |
| 07:05.54 | King_Brad | okay |
| 07:05.54 | buu | liable: libata driver? |
| 07:06.06 | Guerin | or replace it with a script which returns true |
| 07:06.27 | King_Brad | rm: cannot remove `/var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.prerm': No such file or directory |
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| 07:06.44 | croddy | King_Brad: replace "packagename" with the packagename |
| 07:06.45 | liable | buu: i dont know, i am too lazy to do your homework. :P |
| 07:06.55 | King_Brad | oh |
| 07:06.55 | King_Brad | ehe |
| 07:06.57 | King_Brad | duh |
| 07:06.58 | buu | liable: =[ Awhh. But it's, um, fun |
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| 07:07.16 | Guerin | ... |
| 07:07.37 | liable | hah |
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| 07:07.48 | King_Brad | yay that fixed it!! |
| 07:07.50 | King_Brad | sweeeeeeeeeeeeet |
| 07:07.52 | King_Brad | thanks Guerin |
| 07:07.55 | croddy | !enter |
| 07:07.55 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
| 07:07.58 | Seldon1975 | when I first install Debian is there a default password for 'postgres' user |
| 07:08.10 | Azar | a beer for Guerin |
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| 07:09.00 | raf256 | what the fuck |
| 07:09.00 | buu | liable: Well if you wouldn't mind me thinking out loud here, my understanding is that I just need to load the 'libata' module via insmod. That goes fine, no errors. But what do you do after you load the module? |
| 07:09.01 | raf256 | :[ |
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| 07:09.32 | liable | !insmod |
| 07:09.33 | dpkg | Sorry, that command doesn't exist. Surely you meant "modprobe"?, or modprobe also loads dependencies, insmod only loads what you tell it to load. NEVER attempt to use insmod under 2.6. Use modprobe. Did we mention "modprobe" yet? |
| 07:09.46 | raf256 | I am in mud to murders someone. lets buy me air ticket to Washington and world will be a better place |
| 07:09.57 | buu | whups. |
| 07:10.00 | liable | buu: check dmesg. |
| 07:10.11 | raf256 | anyone hare on unstable and have as well problems with MIME types? kde |
| 07:10.13 | King_Brad | okay |
| 07:10.14 | SimonRaven | Seldon1975: no. read the hba.conf |
| 07:10.19 | King_Brad | does anyone know about Swat ? |
| 07:10.29 | valdyn | buu: have you tried booting the installer with linux26? that ide controller should be detected automagically |
| 07:10.30 | buu | liable: Well, modprobe does same thing. |
| 07:10.31 | croddy | raf256: i had that once. i just didn't use any kde stuff for a few months. |
| 07:10.43 | SimonRaven | Seldon1975: it's set to 'ident' for local, and md5 for host |
| 07:10.44 | buu | valdyn: Oh. Think it's worth a reinstall then? |
| 07:10.45 | raf256 | croddy: jefuckingsus |
| 07:11.03 | buu | valdyn: Or can I just pop in 2.6? |
| 07:11.03 | valdyn | buu: no |
| 07:11.10 | raf256 | croddy: if I file in now a bur report I hope by the way they will advice me how to fix/downgrade/ssomething |
| 07:11.16 | valdyn | buu: yes |
| 07:11.53 | buu | valdyn: Can I assume magic will happen after I reboot with 2.6? |
| 07:12.03 | valdyn | buu: maybe, i dont know your setup |
| 07:12.20 | valdyn | buu: which controller is the disk you are booting off now on? |
| 07:12.47 | croddy | raf256: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/2003/12/msg00040.html |
| 07:12.51 | buu | valdyn: None, it's connected directly to ide0 |
| 07:13.24 | valdyn | buu: that's one controller, ide0 is on that via controller? |
| 07:13.31 | buu | valdyn: Er, no? |
| 07:13.37 | valdyn | buu: which one then? |
| 07:13.37 | buu | valdyn: I have 5 pci cards, each with 2 sata controllers |
| 07:13.43 | raf256 | croddy: thans |
| 07:13.46 | buu | Then I have an ide bus on the mobo |
| 07:13.54 | buu | hda is on the ide on the mobo |
| 07:13.55 | valdyn | buu: oh, alright |
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| 07:14.16 | muhoo_ | how would i get syslogd to log *only* to a remote host, and not to a local /var fs? |
| 07:14.21 | muhoo_ | i.e. for an embedded box |
| 07:14.42 | jshriver | any math wizards in here? :) |
| 07:14.52 | muhoo_ | not really embedded, just a headless special-purpose machine with a very small disk drive |
| 07:14.53 | valdyn | buu: maybe reinstall is not such a bad idea then, depending on how upgrading to a 2.6 kernel works for you. Worth a try anyway |
| 07:14.55 | buu | And one more thing, looking at the kernel images in apt-cache I see 2.6.8-2s but the only 2.6.8-11s have 64 in the name |
| 07:15.33 | buu | I guess I just go with -2 |
| 07:15.37 | valdyn | buu: that's ok |
| 07:16.04 | buu | valdyn: Excellent. Let's find out. |
| 07:16.21 | Azar | I want one of these: http://ypwong.org/.albums/gridbag/imgp1039.thumb.jpg |
| 07:16.31 | muhoo | i.e. *.* @loghost works, but it *still* writes crap to /var |
| 07:16.35 | King_Brad | does anyone know where i would find the swat .conf file so i can change the port it runs on? |
| 07:16.36 | buu | I want an X server =[ |
| 07:17.09 | raf256 | croddy: didnt worked for me. I filed in a bug report |
| 07:17.10 | liable | King_Brad: inetd.conf |
| 07:17.19 | King_Brad | sweet |
| 07:17.19 | King_Brad | thx |
| 07:17.21 | croddy | raf256: on what package |
| 07:17.32 | buu | Woohoo, 2.6 |
| 07:17.38 | raf256 | croddy: kdelibs and -data since they contaid that octetstreamsomething file |
| 07:17.52 | King_Brad | its installed as a deamon |
| 07:18.12 | croddy | King_Brad: surely, it would have been easier just to edit the samba configuration file |
| 07:18.24 | King_Brad | moight have been |
| 07:18.38 | muhoo | ah, nevermind works now |
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| 07:18.49 | muhoo | problem was that /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop DID NOT actually stop the daemons |
| 07:18.55 | muhoo | bastard |
| 07:19.05 | raf256 | croddy: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=348025 |
| 07:19.07 | muhoo | had to kill 'em manually |
| 07:19.09 | muhoo | works now |
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| 07:19.12 | buu | I return! |
| 07:19.17 | croddy | #290351 |
| 07:19.21 | buu | valdyn: So, um, how might I check? |
| 07:19.38 | raf256 | I want tu murder someone |
| 07:20.03 | ne0futur | still with your apt pb ? |
| 07:20.10 | krystalino | raf256, no violence please |
| 07:20.11 | ne0futur | dselect could nothing for you ? |
| 07:20.18 | john | raf256: Calm down lol |
| 07:20.19 | ne0futur | even uninstalling many things and the reinstalling ? |
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| 07:20.33 | raf256 | ne0futur: what the fuck is a "pb"? I had no problem with "pb", I had a problem with dependiences |
| 07:20.34 | croddy | oh, that raf256 had not fix'd his cannon 'gainst self-slaughter |
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| 07:20.45 | krystalino | ne0futur, hi ! |
| 07:20.49 | raf256 | ne0futur: I forced installing, so it "wokred" although thre new kdelibs-data seem to be b0rked |
| 07:20.56 | celeborn | When doing /startx and it gives cannot open device /dev/input/mice No such device. what is there to do? I've ran xorgconfig and tried to select other mouse options |
| 07:21.02 | gehidore | anyone managed to get teamspeak working on a 64 bit system |
| 07:21.02 | gehidore | ? |
| 07:21.18 | raf256 | ne0futur: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=290351 |
| 07:21.22 | croddy | apt-cache search teamspeak returns nothing |
| 07:21.29 | Seldon1975 | when I edit pg_hba.conf do I need to restart postgres? |
| 07:21.31 | gehidore | croddy: it's not in apt |
| 07:21.34 | Azar | :) hahaha this is a cool one: http://blog.litux.org/category/hobbies/debian/ |
| 07:21.35 | croddy | well, there you go |
| 07:21.36 | gehidore | but I got the installer |
| 07:21.38 | gehidore | and it doesn't work |
| 07:21.41 | Seldon1975 | and if so, how do I do that? |
| 07:21.46 | croddy | that would be a question for the teamspeak people |
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| 07:22.01 | gehidore | heh |
| 07:22.05 | gehidore | ... |
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| 07:22.07 | raf256 | how to make a screenshot? |
| 07:22.17 | streuner | !ss |
| 07:22.17 | dpkg | hmm... ss is screenshot is 'import -window root screenshot.jpg' (requires imagemagick), or The Gimp's 'acquire -> screenshot' feature. The package scrot does a nice job too, command line, date & size shot at and png format. or man xwd |
| 07:22.28 | raf256 | thnx |
| 07:22.36 | Azar | raf256: I use imagemagick and gkrellm with the Lock/Shot feature |
| 07:22.41 | croddy | Seldon1975: yes. invoke-rc.d postgresql-7.4 restart (or similar) |
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| 07:23.04 | ne0futur | are there some free packages to have more fonts in my gimp ? |
| 07:23.12 | ne0futur | !factinfo fonts |
| 07:23.12 | dpkg | fonts -- last modified at Sat Aug 20 01:58:44 2005 by sgeigerbot!n=user@h116.144.55.139.ip.alltel.net; it has been requested 29 times, last by codeshepherd at Sun Nov 27 17:38:31 2005. |
| 07:23.24 | croddy | ne0futur: yes. |
| 07:23.35 | buu | Oh wrell, I'll reinstall |
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| 07:24.29 | SimonRaven | ne0futur: best bet is aptc search xfonts |
| 07:24.45 | SimonRaven | apt-cache btw, my alias kicking in there |
| 07:24.48 | King_Brad | how would i restart "services" ? |
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| 07:25.14 | streuner | ;-) |
| 07:25.43 | krystalino | ne0futur, how goes the SCIC ? |
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| 07:26.16 | croddy | King_Brad: invoke-rd.d <servicename> restart |
| 07:26.31 | croddy | err, invoke-rc.d |
| 07:26.36 | King_Brad | ty |
| 07:27.47 | celeborn | should /dev/input/mice say anything in it? |
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| 07:28.15 | raf256 | grrr |
| 07:28.24 | raf256 | there should be something between testing and unstable imho |
| 07:28.34 | liable | celeborn: no, type cat /dev/input/mice and move it about. |
| 07:28.40 | raf256 | hmm packets from unstable are becoming testing after 2 weeks if they dont have serious bugs? |
| 07:28.40 | croddy | od /dev/input/mouse even |
| 07:28.55 | celeborn | liable: what if it says no such device? =| |
| 07:28.59 | croddy | i'm making too many stupid typos. |
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| 07:29.52 | ne0futur | krystalino: still for later the SCIC, network slowly growing |
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| 07:30.05 | liable | celeborn: then it doesnt exist. |
| 07:30.24 | krystalino | ne0futur, good thing :) |
| 07:30.26 | celeborn | liable: there's a file in /dev/input/ called "mice" though? |
| 07:30.45 | liable | celeborn: then you made a typo. :) |
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| 07:31.10 | celeborn | cat /dev/input/mice should give something back? |
| 07:31.22 | liable | celeborn: if you move the mouse. |
| 07:31.34 | ne0futur | SimonRaven: thanks aptc search xfonts seems more than I needed ;) |
| 07:32.49 | celeborn | liable: well I'm just trying to get X to work, and it says /dev/input/mice No such device |
| 07:33.17 | SimonRaven | ok |
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| 07:33.36 | liable | celeborn: its a ps2 mouse? |
| 07:33.43 | celeborn | liable: yes |
| 07:34.10 | Leviathan | hmm.. dpkg is asleep :) |
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| 07:34.24 | liable | celeborn: try /dev/psaux, but the other should work. |
| 07:34.26 | Guerin | grrr, libapache-gallery-perl documentation says it needs to be run in its own virtualhost, but I want to run it as part of another virtualhost |
| 07:34.41 | Leviathan | did a dist-upgrade, got gcc4 and now I can't compile a kernel. any ideas? |
| 07:34.53 | liable | !hi |
| 07:34.53 | dpkg | hello, liable |
| 07:34.57 | deadcat | Guerin: hows that working out? |
| 07:35.42 | buu | Hello people! |
| 07:35.52 | Guerin | deadcat: it's not, yet. But anecdotal evidence suggests it's possible. |
| 07:36.03 | streuner | Guerin: isn't a perl-based cli app just enough? |
| 07:36.11 | deadcat | Guerin: cool. |
| 07:36.59 | buu | valdyn: You around/ |
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| 07:37.26 | celeborn | liable: hmm, after changin /dev/mice/input to /dev/psaux in the XF86 config, it just hangs after doing startx |
| 07:37.32 | venger | 2.4 kernel leviathan? |
| 07:37.36 | streuner | buu: saturday morning in germany here... |
| 07:37.55 | Leviathan | venger: any kernel.. 2.6, 2.4, debian's 2.4.. all of them |
| 07:38.00 | buu | streuner: Yay! |
| 07:38.02 | liable | celeborn: whats the log say? |
| 07:38.05 | streuner | buu: just ask |
| 07:38.12 | buu | Oh, right. |
| 07:38.21 | buu | How do I tell my raid cards to mount my hard drives? |
| 07:38.26 | venger | well check this out http://www.kerneltraffic.org/kernel-traffic/kt20050608_314.html#5 |
| 07:38.50 | Guerin | streuner: yeah, maybe igal would do. |
| 07:39.03 | Guerin | streuner: i'd like to be able to just upload images and forget about them, though |
| 07:39.06 | Leviathan | venger: and how can I rollback gcc? |
| 07:39.11 | Guerin | and igal produces ugly html |
| 07:39.39 | celeborn | liable: I don't know, I can't get back to console |
| 07:39.41 | deadcat | Guerin: igal was cool before apache-perl-gallery. but it doesnt do much |
| 07:40.09 | liable | celeborn: go to another console or you cant even do that? |
| 07:40.10 | Azar | Leviathan: wow you must be running sid? |
| 07:40.14 | Guerin | deadcat: yeh. Any other good perl gallery apps you know of? |
| 07:40.27 | Guerin | think 'minimal chrome' |
| 07:40.31 | buu | I can modprobe libsata, it says "initializing scsi subsystem" |
| 07:40.32 | Leviathan | Azar: yeah |
| 07:40.45 | celeborn | liable: can't even do that, the monitor is acting like it's hibernating |
| 07:40.48 | buu | But it doesn't do anything useful. |
| 07:40.49 | Azar | ouch, well congratulations, what can I say |
| 07:41.12 | deadcat | Guerin: thats the only one i know. and i like it very much. although i am still using the stable version. the one in unstable seems unstable. like some images dont get thumbnailed |
| 07:41.17 | King_Brad | how can i remove something i installed from source? |
| 07:41.36 | deadcat | King_Brad: make uninstall, if that dolesnt work. read the Makefile and rm them by hand |
| 07:41.42 | Leviathan | Azar: there's no way I can remove gcc4 and rollback to 3.x? |
| 07:41.56 | King_Brad | it used a ./install.sh script |
| 07:42.00 | liable | celeborn: hrm, bugger. |
| 07:42.02 | King_Brad | does make uninstall still apply? |
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| 07:42.08 | Guerin | King_Brad: no |
| 07:42.13 | Azar | Leviathan: I am fairly new and scared of sid, what to say.. if you remove gcc you might get in trouble |
| 07:42.23 | Guerin | King_Brad: read what the install script did and undo it |
| 07:42.27 | deadcat | King_Brad: read the doc |
| 07:42.35 | Guerin | King_Brad: if you deleted the script, you're SOOL |
| 07:43.04 | Azar | I am not aware of a "replace" option for aptitude.. |
| 07:43.42 | Snoopy | how do i add a system tray to my panel |
| 07:43.43 | ledestin_ | I've successfully built lirc-modules-source, but there's no lirc_i2c.ko in the built package. |
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| 07:43.51 | Snoopy | how do i add a system tray to my panel in Gnome |
| 07:43.56 | deadcat | Snoopy: right click |
| 07:44.12 | venger | Leviathan: sounds like some just install the older version and symlink |
| 07:44.37 | liable | ledestin_: 2.x is still installed, you just need to export it if you need to use it. |
| 07:44.43 | Snoopy | yeah i did but didnt find an option for system tray |
| 07:44.43 | liable | err.. 3.x |
| 07:44.48 | Leviathan | venger: I did that, but make-kpkg is still failing on me |
| 07:44.54 | deadcat | Guerin: what version of libapache-gallery-perl you using? does it display .gif? |
| 07:45.08 | pbrunier | hi all |
| 07:45.26 | venger | Leviathan: willing to roll your own? |
| 07:45.38 | Leviathan | gcc? no thanx :) |
| 07:45.45 | venger | Leviathan: kernel |
| 07:46.06 | Leviathan | ah... well, I think I'll try that now |
| 07:46.12 | ledestin_ | liable: can't find it with dpkg -S |
| 07:46.34 | venger | Leviathan: might be the best work around until gcc4 is more current |
| 07:46.59 | gnufa1 | Leviathan: whats the problem? You can have multiple GCCs installed, and when you build kernel mods just use whichever is listed in /proc/version |
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| 07:47.28 | Guerin | hah, easy |
| 07:47.32 | liable | ledestin_: dpkg -l |grep gcc |
| 07:47.46 | Guerin | just put it in a <Directory> instead of a <VirtualHost> container |
| 07:47.58 | Guerin | deadcat: using whatever's in arge |
| 07:48.01 | tuomaz | can i change my system language on the fly? so that every menu and stuff will go different language. im using sarge and gnome |
| 07:48.02 | Leviathan | does copying the .config to another machine, make-kpkg there and then installing the .deb on this machine usually work? |
| 07:48.30 | Guerin | tuomaz: export LANG=whatever; you'll have to restart any program which you want changed |
| 07:48.58 | gnufa1 | Leviathan: if it is the same architecture or you cross compile, but I built a module with an old GCC, with newer GCCs installed here..... |
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| 07:49.38 | ledestin_ | liable: I have 3.2 and 3.3 installed, the default is 3.3 |
| 07:49.44 | tuomaz | Guerin: it doesent work |
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| 07:50.00 | Leviathan | gnufa1: ah.. now I know what happened.. I was trying to build modules with another version of gcc than the one I first compiled the kernel with. |
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| 07:50.05 | TGoC | Is it normal for mysql 5.0 to go <defunct> on debian sarge? |
| 07:50.05 | Leviathan | makes sense now |
| 07:50.13 | tuomaz | Guerin: my lang is de_DE.UTF-8@euro |
| 07:50.29 | liable | ledestin_: and why do you want to use 3.2? |
| 07:50.32 | tuomaz | Guerin: but everything is in english and i restarted gdm too |
| 07:51.05 | buu | So, 2.6.8-2, libsata drivers |
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| 07:51.08 | buu | How do I see the hds/ |
| 07:51.21 | ledestin_ | liable: I'm not using 3.2, by default 3.3 is called. 3.2 is a leftover from somewhere. |
| 07:51.40 | ledestin_ | liable: If you think removing 3.2 will help, I'll remove it. |
| 07:51.48 | gnufa1 | Leviathan: I had fun last week persuading module-assistant to use the same GCC version as my kernel was built with, but I got there in the end. |
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| 07:52.23 | liable | ledestin_: no, actually i have no idea what you are trying to achieve.. |
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| 07:53.07 | gnufa1 | Leviathan: I did ponder filing a bug report against module-assistant, as it would be dead handy if it warned you if that is what you are doing..... |
| 07:53.21 | TGoC | What is the meaning of life? |
| 07:53.26 | ledestin_ | liable: can't remove it, x-window-core depends on it |
| 07:53.29 | Leviathan | TGoC: 42 |
| 07:53.34 | TGoC | 42? |
| 07:53.42 | liable | hrm, might have to try this apache gallery module.. |
| 07:53.44 | kspath | that is for everything |
| 07:53.46 | Leviathan | gnufa1: I guess it should |
| 07:54.10 | kspath | 42 - everything == life |
| 07:54.13 | gnufa1 | TGoC: wrong channel - try #debian-philosophy ;) |
| 07:54.49 | TGoC | lol gnufa1 i'm not into that stuff, i'd just like to hear what a debian person has as the meaning of life |
| 07:55.22 | gnufa1 | TGoC: whoever dies with the most RAM wins ;) |
| 07:55.29 | TGoC | I heard someone say The meaning of life is cracking microsoft |
| 07:55.36 | TGoC | gnufa1: lmao |
| 07:55.41 | quasisane | TGoC: apt-get install xlife |
| 07:55.44 | Icemaann | has mod_gzip been removed from debian? |
| 07:55.46 | kspath | apt-get install life ; when you can take this package from my hand you are ready |
| 07:56.23 | ledestin_ | liable: I'm trying to have lirc_i2c.ko built. |
| 07:56.27 | TGoC | quad3datwork2 installing right now |
| 07:56.33 | streuner | Icemaann: what does the changelog say about? |
| 07:56.35 | TGoC | quasisane installing right now |
| 07:56.52 | TGoC | now what does xlife do? |
| 07:57.10 | kspath | AI life simulator? |
| 07:57.24 | TGoC | does it work in shell? |
| 07:57.28 | Icemaann | streuner: i dont know. i cant find the package, and the debian package site is down. I suppose I could go look on the ftp myself |
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| 07:57.58 | TGoC | elite:/usr/games# ./xlife |
| 07:57.59 | TGoC | Can't open Display |
| 07:58.07 | quasisane | TGoC: the classic "game" of life, cellular automata. x only i would assume |
| 07:58.11 | sts9 | ahhh. where in my setup can I say that it apt and dpkg should stop trying use X. installing my compiled kernel errors cause -- frontend: cannot connect to X server :0 - what a stupid reason to error out of installing my kernel. haha |
| 07:58.17 | streuner | Icemaann: google |
| 07:58.26 | Leviathan | that's so cute: net/ipv4/tcp.c:931: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault |
| 07:58.30 | TGoC | lol k quad3datwork2 well i don't have a desktop debian so can't use it |
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| 07:59.33 | venger | when debconf asks what locals to gen should i pick en_US* or skip? |
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| 07:59.58 | Icemaann | streuner: i looked there. changelog mentions nothing about it being taken out. ill just compile it |
| 08:00.02 | kspath | dang I think twin is it |
| 08:00.24 | sts9 | I could use synaptic but, alot of times its more convenient to use the tem. how do I stop frontend from loading an X display. stdout should be all the visula output I need |
| 08:00.28 | liable | ledestin_: and what is the error? why do you think its gcc's fault? |
| 08:00.29 | Guerin | tuomaz: it does work. |
| 08:00.43 | Guerin | tuomaz: but naturally, if you log in again, you'll get the default again |
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| 08:01.48 | AdameSS | i would like to search google for the answer to this question, but the search terms are necessarily too vague |
| 08:02.12 | AdameSS | when i start gnome through gdm, i get a mouse pointer X in the center of my screen, even though X picks up my real mouse. |
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| 08:02.29 | AdameSS | this X obscures what is under it. |
| 08:02.38 | ledestin_ | liable: I didn't say it was gcc fault. There's no error, the package builds. |
| 08:02.52 | AdameSS | any ideas where that might come from |
| 08:03.25 | johny06 | hi,where can i find the bittorrent-gui config files,i keep on getting rejected by tracker - Port 6881 is blacklisted |
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| 08:04.21 | rAz_ | ~ |
| 08:04.32 | TGoC | Is it normal for mysql 5.0 to go <defunct>? |
| 08:04.57 | TGoC | It sometimes just go <defunct> on my debian installation |
| 08:05.50 | streuner | !info libapache-mode-gzip sarge |
| 08:05.56 | kspath | wow pork is neato |
| 08:06.06 | streuner | !info libapache-mod-gzip sarge |
| 08:06.11 | dpkg | libapache-mod-gzip: (HTTP compression module for Apache), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.26.1a-8 (sarge), Packaged size: 99 kB, Installed size: 433 kB |
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| 08:06.42 | streuner | Icemaann: ^^^^ |
| 08:06.58 | liable | ledestin_: uh, so wahts the problem? |
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| 08:08.37 | Icemaann | !info libapache-mod-gzip |
| 08:08.40 | dpkg | libapache-mod-gzip: (HTTP compression module for Apache), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.26.1a-8 (sid), Packaged size: 99 kB, Installed size: 433 kB |
| 08:08.41 | Icemaann | !info libapache-mod-gzip etch |
| 08:09.07 | Icemaann | not in etch. thanks |
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| 08:10.00 | ledestin_ | liable: no idea, it doesn't get into the package. I can build it with m-a or make-kpkg, but not by hand. |
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| 08:10.28 | streuner | Icemaann: /msg dpkg why is libapache-mod-gzip not in testing |
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| 08:10.41 | streuner | dpkg info libapache-mod-gzip sid |
| 08:10.44 | dpkg | libapache-mod-gzip: (HTTP compression module for Apache), section web, is optional. Version: 1.3.26.1a-8 (sid), Packaged size: 99 kB, Installed size: 433 kB |
| 08:11.02 | streuner | Icemaann: /msg dpkg simple sid backport |
| 08:11.29 | omi | hey all, netmask question. If I want to have a network segment 10.0.0.65-10.0.0.254 I'm confused as to which netmask I need. can someone help out please? |
| 08:11.34 | bluenail | hey, how do I find out the details of the files installed previously using dpkg -i? /var/log/dpkg.log only says what the package name was, not where the files are (and most importantly, what the executable's name is) |
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| 08:11.51 | ledestin_ | liable: sed: can't read /usr/src/linux/2.6.8-2-686/build/include/linux/version.h: No such file or directory |
| 08:11.58 | Guerin | bluenail: dpkg -L |
| 08:12.06 | bluenail | Guerin thanks! |
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| 08:12.30 | liable | ledestin_: OMFG, i had you totally confused with Leviathan, sorry.. |
| 08:12.35 | Icemaann | streuner: thanks for your help! |
| 08:12.42 | streuner | np |
| 08:12.45 | liable | ledestin_: you have headers installed or source? |
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| 08:13.08 | ledestin_ | liable: both |
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| 08:13.38 | _fred | Hi! I noticed that the default fonts on my KDE/Debian system does not support all Chinese characters (I changed that font therefore). Though only some are missing. So how do I go to have this fixed? I could even help to provide the missing characters. |
| 08:14.04 | Guerin | _fred: your only jhope is to find a font which covers them all |
| 08:14.04 | ledestin_ | liable: that explains a lot |
| 08:14.20 | Guerin | _fred: i don't know of any; then again, I can't read chinese :) |
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| 08:14.48 | _fred | Guerin: Isn't it possible to help improve that current default font? |
| 08:15.17 | Guerin | _fred: depends on the license of the font. |
| 08:15.17 | liable | ledestin_: that error is from compiling by hand? |
| 08:15.22 | _fred | Guerin: I found one that support most Asian language, just wanted to contribute a little bit.. you know just to give back... |
| 08:15.28 | ledestin_ | liable: yes |
| 08:15.31 | zztopd_ | How can i signe packages? i use only "debian" repository. and some days ago "apt-get" wrote message --debsig: Origin Signature check failed. This deb might not be signed.-- Any ideas? thanks |
| 08:15.38 | Guerin | _fred: free software needs good font designers |
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| 08:16.02 | streuner | zztopd_: /topic? |
| 08:16.02 | ledestin_ | liable: modules/lirc, make i2c |
| 08:16.11 | liable | ledestin_: and m-a builds but doesnt make the module? |
| 08:16.15 | _fred | Guerin: I did google on the problem, found many issues, but not the one i was looking for. So how do I find who is working on this part of KDE/Debian? |
| 08:16.56 | ledestin_ | liable: it makes lirc_dev and lirc_serial, but not lirc_i2c, which seems to be necessary. |
| 08:17.06 | _fred | Guerin: I don't think I qualify as anything that goes next to designer ;-) |
| 08:17.08 | Guerin | !maint xfonts-base |
| 08:17.15 | dpkg | xfonts-base: Debian X Strike Force <debian-x@lists.debian.org> |
| 08:17.27 | sal2006 | hi |
| 08:17.37 | sal2006 | hi there |
| 08:17.43 | _fred | Guerin: oh thanks... you guys are always so handy.... wealth of knowledge. |
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| 08:17.56 | Guerin | _fred: well ... those fonts are a place to start. Also look at the maintainers of the other font packages. |
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| 08:18.43 | zztopd_ | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
| 08:18.47 | _fred | Guerin: well i found all those specific font packages that solve the problem. But I think native support would be much better |
| 08:18.58 | Guerin | well |
| 08:19.04 | liable | ledestin_: i dont know if doing it by hand will make any difference. are you sure the i2c is supposed to be made by that source package? |
| 08:19.32 | _fred | Guerin: Even with those special packages I have problems when I open office documents written on windows.. it does not replace the font with the "good" one |
| 08:19.46 | liable | ledestin_: m-a doesnt complain at all? read the docs? |
| 08:20.02 | Guerin | _fred: yeah ... that's one of the inherent stupidities of a document format which dictates font choices, though. |
| 08:20.03 | _fred | guerin: so some worlds are not complete... well i'll see what I can do from there. thanks for the lead |
| 08:20.09 | zztopd_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:20.13 | Guerin | _fred: welcome. |
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| 08:20.27 | streuner | dpkg, 2006 key |
| 08:20.27 | dpkg | 2006 key is, like, apt 0.6.43.1 ( now in unstable and testing) includes the 2006 package key. installing this package may not be auto-verifiable; OR! you can install the key as follow, explicitly trusting the keyserver with no verification -- gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv-keys 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F ; gpg --export 084750FC01A6D388A643D869010908312D230C5F | sudo apt-key add - && apt-get update |
| 08:20.31 | streuner | oh god |
| 08:20.43 | ledestin_ | liable: what I found on google supports that point. other people have built lirc_i2c |
| 08:20.54 | sal2006 | any body there...... |
| 08:20.59 | streuner | no |
| 08:21.02 | liable | ledestin_: nothing in the docs for it? |
| 08:21.16 | streuner | only 637 people |
| 08:21.38 | ootput | sal2006: i was here a moment ago. Now I'm gone ;) |
| 08:22.01 | kspath | 520+ are lurking |
| 08:22.21 | streuner | !customer |
| 08:22.21 | dpkg | another happy customer leaves the building |
| 08:22.31 | zztopd_ | streuner, ok. thankz |
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| 08:24.46 | buu | Ok, so what's the easiest way to get later kernel on stable? |
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| 08:26.04 | streuner | buu: what kernel do you need? |
| 08:26.23 | buu | streuner: I'm not really sure. 6.15? |
| 08:26.58 | streuner | buu: look at backports.org |
| 08:27.02 | zztopd_ | dpkg, testing security |
| 08:27.02 | dpkg | rumour has it, testing security is Don't use http://security.debian.org/dists/testing/updates/, but see http://secure-testing-master.debian.net/, ask me about <secure-testing-master apt-key> |
| 08:27.10 | colera | where are the startup scripts located in debian? like sshd and ifup etc? |
| 08:27.13 | streuner | !backports |
| 08:27.13 | dpkg | from memory, backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 08:27.49 | streuner | colera: sshd (/etc/init.d/ssh) |
| 08:28.02 | colera | streuner: thank |
| 08:28.04 | buu | streuner: kernel-package? |
| 08:28.05 | liable | wow, i like that apache-gallery module :) |
| 08:28.19 | ledestin_ | liable: docs just tell how to compile, and by hand method doesn't work. |
| 08:28.26 | streuner | colera: ifup is rather for network, look at interfaces |
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| 08:28.41 | liable | ledestin_: you have the headers in source? or just source? |
| 08:28.47 | streuner | buu: linux-image-2.6.15 |
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| 08:29.26 | buu | Heh, kernel-image-2.6 is under l, how obvious. |
| 08:29.26 | liable | ledestin_: looks like its looking in there rather than looking at the headers.. |
| 08:29.31 | nipra | !mplayer |
| 08:29.32 | dpkg | hmm... mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 08:29.37 | jetscreamer | why are fonts different depending on if you use xdm gdm or kdm |
| 08:29.39 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 08:29.45 | liable | ledestin_: so you might want to make em. |
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| 08:30.36 | nipra | !marillat |
| 08:30.36 | dpkg | rumour has it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 08:30.47 | liable | nipra: /msg the bot |
| 08:30.52 | colera | streuner: what exactly do you mean? look at the interfaces? |
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| 08:31.04 | ootput | nipra: getting busy with the bot? |
| 08:31.23 | streuner | colera: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 08:31.24 | karsten | nipra: /msg dpkg foo rather than spewing on channel, please. |
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| 08:31.46 | celeborn | I just installed debian, then upgraded from xf86 to xorg. It boots into the gui fine, but my PS2 mouse doesn't work. Are there any suggestions? |
| 08:32.07 | jetscreamer | modprobe mousedev |
| 08:32.23 | celeborn | jetscreamer: I've done that, and added it to /etc/modules |
| 08:32.25 | LilKim | Hi; i got debian is there any program i could install to prevent DDos attacks ? |
| 08:32.30 | celeborn | jetscreamer: doesn't seem to fix it |
| 08:32.38 | jetscreamer | celeborn: what protocol are you using |
| 08:32.43 | buu | LilKim: try apt-get install competent-sysadmin |
| 08:32.44 | jetscreamer | imps2 or what |
| 08:32.49 | streuner | switch off from i-net |
| 08:32.55 | jetscreamer | errr |
| 08:33.04 | jetscreamer | psaux of /dev/input/mice i mean |
| 08:33.07 | karsten | LilKim: Not specifically, DDoS is distributed, you'd need upstream assistance. |
| 08:33.08 | jetscreamer | s/of/or |
| 08:33.10 | jetscreamer | / |
| 08:33.17 | erc | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:33.19 | celeborn | jetscreamer: wait, what? |
| 08:33.26 | LilKim | I'm kindoff newbie :/ |
| 08:33.26 | liable | grrr, cant change background colour.. |
| 08:33.45 | jetscreamer | celeborn: when you do the dpkg-reconfigure thing, do you choose psaux, or /dev/input/mice |
| 08:33.51 | karsten | LilKim: In general, look at one of the firewall packages or iptables for general rules and in particular hysteresis throtling. |
| 08:33.56 | jetscreamer | oh and is it usb or ps2 mouse |
| 08:34.17 | celeborn | jetscreamer: /dev/input/mice, it's a usb mouse plugged into a ps2 converter... so it's in the ps2 port |
| 08:34.22 | karsten | !tell LilKim about ddos |
| 08:34.38 | LilKim | thankiu karsten :) |
| 08:34.53 | buu | "E: the package linux-image-2.6.. needs to be reinstalled but I can't find an archive for it" |
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| 08:35.31 | buu | I get that everytime I apt-get install anything |
| 08:35.52 | jetscreamer | ok celeborn are there any obvious errors in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 08:35.52 | jomo39292 | hey can someone help with my video setup? |
| 08:36.17 | jetscreamer | purge the metapackage buu |
| 08:36.28 | jomo39292 | I've got X running, but it's at a low resolution and low color. How can I get the full resolution? |
| 08:36.32 | ledestin_ | liable: it expects more than headers, it expects makefile there as well. soemthing is borken. |
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| 08:37.05 | jomo39292 | i have Providia 9685 video card |
| 08:37.07 | buu | jetscreamer: Er, doesn't seem to help. apt-get remove.. ? |
| 08:37.51 | liable | ledestin_: there is a makefile in the source. |
| 08:37.57 | liable | ledestin_: for kernel. |
| 08:38.03 | jetscreamer | celeborn: this might help, might not http://xfree.org/4.4.0/mouse.html |
| 08:38.18 | jetscreamer | buu apt-get remove --purge is how |
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| 08:38.25 | jetscreamer | !drxx jomo39292 |
| 08:38.25 | dpkg | jomo39292: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 08:38.49 | celeborn | jetscreamer: there's no obvious errors that I can see, other than one that looks like it deals with a font |
| 08:38.52 | jetscreamer | buu: i had a 2.6.14 metapackage barfoid.... |
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| 08:39.05 | buu | jetscreamer: I tried --purge, same error |
| 08:39.55 | ledestin_ | liable: took fsck'ed, I'll try it later. thanks. |
| 08:40.06 | jetscreamer | celeborn: all i can think off offhand is try psaux instead of /dev/input/mice , but apt-get install read-edid mdetect before you drxx again |
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| 08:40.25 | jetscreamer | s/off/of/ |
| 08:40.51 | jetscreamer | celeborn: or take that adapter off and use the usb... |
| 08:41.05 | valdyn | !usbmouse |
| 08:41.05 | dpkg | somebody said usbmouse was [1] get a kernel with USB, USB mouse and input/HID support; standard Debian kernels have all this. [2] cd /dev && MAKEDEV usb && MAKEDEV input [3] apt-get install usbmgr or hotplug (or if that fails, modprobe {usb}hid and mousedev by hand); [5] use device /dev/input/mice, protocol exps2 for gpm, protocol ExplorerPS/2 for X. On a modern system only [5] is necessary. |
| 08:41.07 | valdyn | !usb mouse |
| 08:41.07 | dpkg | i heard usb mouse is "MAKEDEV input", or apt-get install kernel-doc-`uname -r` && zless /usr/share/doc/kernel-doc-`uname -r`/Documentation/usb/input.txt.gz or ask me about "usbmouse" |
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| 08:41.49 | jetscreamer | !info linux-image-2.6 |
| 08:42.01 | jetscreamer | <dpkg> Package 'linux-image-2.6' does not exist. |
| 08:42.27 | valdyn | buu: why are you installing testing or unstable package(s) in sarge? |
| 08:42.46 | jetscreamer | ahhhh |
| 08:43.15 | Guerin | buu is well known for not listening to advice |
| 08:43.18 | valdyn | !win buu |
| 08:43.18 | dpkg | Congratulations, buu! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 08:44.06 | jomo39292 | u there dpkg? ask you? |
| 08:44.08 | buu | valdyn: because I hate myself. |
| 08:44.12 | jetscreamer | Guerin: are you sure it wasn't you who watched while dselect resolved dependency problems that aptitude or apt-get -f couldn't fix, (for some clubie) |
| 08:44.14 | buu | Guerin: Which advice was I supposed to be listening to? |
| 08:44.32 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: what? |
| 08:44.35 | jetscreamer | !what are you |
| 08:44.35 | dpkg | I am a blootbot. For more info see <blootbot> |
| 08:44.53 | valdyn | buu: reinstall again, its easy ) |
| 08:44.55 | jetscreamer | was a long time ago though |
| 08:44.57 | buu | valdyn: I just did! |
| 08:45.02 | buu | valdyn: I'm on 2.6.8 |
| 08:45.10 | jomo39292 | Jetscreamer: I've got X running, but it's at a low resolution and low color. How can I get the full resolution? |
| 08:45.22 | valdyn | buu: you tried to install a linux-image though, thats not 2.6.8 and its not in sarge |
| 08:45.31 | Guerin | jetscreamer: i've seen that happen, but it's normally aptitude I find is best to fix deps |
| 08:45.44 | jomo39292 | someone also said, i'm might be possbility using 8bit resolution |
| 08:45.46 | buu | valdyn: Yes, I'm reduced to trying new versions of the kernel |
| 08:45.49 | jomo39292 | someone also said, i'm might be possbility using 8bit color |
| 08:45.53 | valdyn | buu: what's the reason you tried a testing/unstable kernel? |
| 08:46.01 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: /msg dpkg drxx you might want to apt-get install hwinfo first and run hwinfo --monitor , as root, first, to get the refresh rates |
| 08:46.01 | buu | valdyn: Um. The current one doesn't work/ |
| 08:46.10 | buu | Er, it doesn't seem to be "working" atleast. |
| 08:46.15 | jetscreamer | buu |
| 08:46.17 | valdyn | buu: can you be a little more informative? |
| 08:46.24 | jetscreamer | just go etch maybe |
| 08:46.29 | buu | valdyn: Well, um, I can't see my sata drives. I'm not sure what else you need. |
| 08:46.32 | valdyn | buu: no one is going to help you if you do not provide accurate information |
| 08:46.54 | valdyn | buu: those sata drives are on what controller(s) ? |
| 08:47.07 | buu | VIA Tech, VT6421 |
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| 08:47.37 | avaurus | hi |
| 08:47.44 | valdyn | buu: that is SATA even though your lspci outut said IDE ? |
| 08:48.23 | buu | valdyn: The card also has an ide controller, I have nothing plugged in to it however. |
| 08:48.38 | buu | jetscreamer: I'm considering it |
| 08:48.39 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 08:48.40 | dpkg | hmm... sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 08:48.50 | valdyn | buu: ^^^ this installer might support it |
| 08:49.12 | valdyn | buu: dont use testing or unstable kernel's in sarge anyway |
| 08:49.18 | avaurus | I have a problem with "discover2" (discover 2.0.7): when I execute it "discover", it gives *** glibc detected *** double free or corruption (!prev): 0x08074908 ***" <-- I have googled a bit, but didn't found a good explanation |
| 08:49.33 | valdyn | avaurus: in sid? |
| 08:49.50 | buu | valdyn: If you say so.. |
| 08:50.04 | buu | valdyn: Btw, how should I expect to tell if it works or not? |
| 08:50.11 | avaurus | valdyn, no, in sarge |
| 08:50.22 | valdyn | buu: so, you dont really know if it works or not? |
| 08:50.31 | buu | valdyn: Not really, no. |
| 08:50.40 | buu | My test so far has been fdisk /dev/sda |
| 08:50.47 | valdyn | buu: cat /proc/scsi/scsi |
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| 08:50.55 | buu | Yeah, nothing there |
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| 08:51.07 | valdyn | buu: hold on |
| 08:52.55 | avaurus | valdyn, do you know what this error is trying to tell me ? |
| 08:53.28 | valdyn | avaurus: that you shouldnt use sid |
| 08:53.39 | jetscreamer | buu: what is / mounted on, an sata drive? |
| 08:53.39 | avaurus | valdyn, I use sarge |
| 08:53.51 | valdyn | !find via_sata.ko |
| 08:53.51 | buu | jetscreamer: No, ide. |
| 08:54.03 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'via_sata.ko' returned no results. |
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| 08:54.28 | valdyn | !find sata_via.ko |
| 08:54.37 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'sata_via.ko' (3 of 10): (/lib/modules/2.6.14-2-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.14-2-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.15-1-k7/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.15-1-k7 ;; (/lib/modules/2.6.14-2-686/kernel/drivers/scsi/sata_via.ko) in base/linux-image-2.6.14-2-686. |
| 08:54.40 | valdyn | buu: lsmod | grep via |
| 08:55.36 | buu | sata_via, via_agp, via_ircc |
| 08:55.43 | valdyn | avaurus: dpkg -l libc6 |
| 08:56.30 | valdyn | buu: so the driver is loaded ( did you load it manually ?), but no scsi device exists? ( cat /proc/scsi/scsi shows nothing? ) |
| 08:56.32 | kspath | ugh how many languages do we really need?!?!? |
| 08:56.50 | valdyn | kspath: what kind of question is that? |
| 08:56.56 | buu | valdyn: I loaded it manually, I believe |
| 08:57.11 | buu | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:57.23 | valdyn | buu: ok, try the newer installer as dpkg said |
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| 08:57.49 | buu | linux-image-2.6.15-2-k7 you mean/ |
| 08:57.56 | valdyn | buu: no |
| 08:58.00 | buu | Oh, the other thing? |
| 08:58.01 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 08:58.01 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, sarge 2.6.14 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 08:58.09 | valdyn | buu: ^^^^ READ |
| 08:58.13 | buu | Yeah, I read that. |
| 08:58.26 | jetscreamer | but did you click it |
| 08:58.30 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.15 |
| 08:58.37 | buu | jetscreamer: Yes, I clicked it and read it. |
| 08:58.42 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
| 08:58.43 | buu | I just wasn't sure that was what he was talking about. |
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| 08:58.56 | kspath | rhetorical mostly OCaml Ruby JBoss Java Javascript Scheme Smalltalk C++ Perl Python PHP TCL ...... |
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| 08:59.39 | buu | valdyn: Is there anyway to run that installer without burning a cd? |
| 08:59.47 | valdyn | buu: nope |
| 08:59.49 | buu | argh |
| 08:59.49 | chugga | is there a guide on installing a TTF font under debian? |
| 08:59.54 | jetscreamer | we need more languages, obviously |
| 09:00.04 | valdyn | chugga: yes |
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| 09:00.20 | jetscreamer | chugga: there was a fontdeuglification how-to but not debian specific |
| 09:00.36 | chugga | valdyn, may i see it please |
| 09:00.36 | jomo39292 | Jetscreamer: u there? when i type hwinfo i get this http://rafb.net/paste/results/Vjdx7152.html |
| 09:00.39 | valdyn | chugga: cp *.ttf ~/.fonts/ |
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| 09:01.26 | valdyn | chugga: or even better, apt-get install somettffonts |
| 09:01.31 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: hwinfo --monitor :) |
| 09:01.42 | kspath | one company alone can have 4-7 languages being used all mixed and matched and glued and clamped together ARGH! |
| 09:02.14 | chugga | valdyn, if i copy it to .fonts .. will i need to run something to tell it to add it? |
| 09:02.38 | valdyn | chugga: no |
| 09:03.07 | chugga | valdyn, ok. lemme try that. |
| 09:03.10 | valdyn | chugga: but apt-get install somettffonts anyway to get whatever you might be missing to use them |
| 09:03.53 | chugga | valdyn, thats brilliant! it worked. |
| 09:04.04 | chugga | who said fonts under linux was a pain? :) |
| 09:04.23 | chugga | valdyn, yes, this is for a website that was using its own font |
| 09:04.33 | valdyn | chugga: they are easy only if you use applications that use the 'new' font system |
| 09:04.45 | nvz | is there something simple like dosbox that runs in console? for emulating dos without extensive configuration. |
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| 09:05.16 | chugga | valdyn, yes, i see that too. emacs is troublesome |
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| 09:06.04 | jetscreamer | i don't know what dosemu does or is like |
| 09:06.20 | liable | Guerin: you get that gallery to work in <directory> without fucking the rest of the vhost? if location is in there i cant get the other pages and if its not, i get like an ftp index. |
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| 09:08.10 | zztopd_ | chugga, you can try "sudo fc-cache -f -v" to rebuild fonts cache |
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| 09:08.17 | Guerin | liable: yeah, I just commended the two <Location> tags and it works perfectly |
| 09:08.27 | Guerin | i'll paste you the conf snippet |
| 09:08.44 | chugga | zztopd_, oh what valdyn told me worked. copying the font to ~/.fonts |
| 09:09.08 | zztopd_ | chugga, thanks |
| 09:09.09 | jetscreamer | nvz: dosemu? |
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| 09:09.13 | jomo39292 | Jetscreamer: when i type hwinfo --monitor it doesn't do anything |
| 09:09.23 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: as root, or sudo |
| 09:09.23 | valdyn | that font cache is generated automagically also, at some point ( that i dont know or care ) |
| 09:09.36 | jetscreamer | actually, it does, but it blanks the screen i 'think' |
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| 09:09.42 | jomo39292 | yeah |
| 09:09.45 | jetscreamer | i see a flash when i don't do it as root |
| 09:10.19 | jomo39292 | i pretty sure i'm at root |
| 09:10.24 | jetscreamer | yeah you did it as root? ah. |
| 09:10.26 | jetscreamer | try id |
| 09:10.36 | jetscreamer | type it in console to see who you are |
| 09:10.58 | jomo39292 | uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root) |
| 09:11.05 | Guerin | liable: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1556 |
| 09:11.38 | vidma | is X.org stable now? how much effort does it need to convert from Xfree86 to X.org? |
| 09:11.41 | liable | Guerin: ah, thanks. :) |
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| 09:12.08 | valdyn | vidma: its not worth switching to it |
| 09:12.20 | vidma | valdyn: serious? |
| 09:12.28 | valdyn | vidma: ( unless your hardware is not supported by Xfree86 |
| 09:12.33 | valdyn | vidma: yes sure |
| 09:12.42 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: it functions here. i have no idea why hwinfo --monitor would not show you anything if you are root |
| 09:13.12 | Guerin | liable: result at http://rt2k6.feayn.org/photos |
| 09:13.32 | liable | Guerin: got it, cheers. |
| 09:13.34 | vidma | valdyn: in that case, why have X.org in the first place? seems like a waste of effort. |
| 09:13.47 | jetscreamer | vidma: missed the license thingy eh |
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| 09:14.12 | vidma | valdyn: yeh, i was going to come to that, the licensing thing. |
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| 09:14.24 | valdyn | vidma: its not worse than XFree86, but it does not provide anything you might need at this point except new / updated drivers |
| 09:14.44 | jetscreamer | and transparency.. what every server needs... |
| 09:15.06 | valdyn | no one needs transparency, and its not stable at all |
| 09:15.15 | chugga | im using Xorg .. it installs by default on etch. quite happy with it too :) |
| 09:15.24 | jomo39292 | jetscreamer i got it |
| 09:15.25 | jetscreamer | !tell valdyn that that was a joke |
| 09:15.26 | vidma | i thought the motivation for having X.org was the XFree86 will not be free anymore, or something like thaat. |
| 09:15.31 | liable | Guerin: bunneh! |
| 09:15.38 | jomo39292 | is there way to write to file? |
| 09:15.43 | valdyn | jetscreamer: yea.. ) |
| 09:15.47 | liable | Guerin: is that you with the long hair? hippy! |
| 09:16.04 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: same command, add > file.name.here |
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| 09:16.25 | jetscreamer | Guerin has red hair iirc |
| 09:16.27 | vidma | chugga: u install it new or to replace an existing XFree86? |
| 09:16.37 | jetscreamer | and not as long as mine once was |
| 09:16.44 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 09:16.57 | chugga | vidma, it installed with debian etch. i didnt remember choosing anything |
| 09:17.20 | Guerin | yeh, that's me |
| 09:17.27 | Guerin | i'm not a fuckin' hippy, though |
| 09:17.32 | liable | heh |
| 09:17.37 | liable | no shit! |
| 09:17.40 | Guerin | that pic was taken in 2002 |
| 09:17.41 | jetscreamer | ah a celibate hippy |
| 09:17.48 | Guerin | jetscreamer: hah |
| 09:18.33 | liable | ok, long haired lout? |
| 09:18.37 | liable | :) |
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| 09:20.59 | vidma | valdyn: Debian is not supporting newer version of Xfree86 anymore, right? |
| 09:21.01 | Guerin | vidma: that's not quite true, about xfree86 - versions with the new license were still free, just not gpl-compatible. The version in debian predates the license change, though. |
| 09:21.06 | Guerin | vidma: yes. |
| 09:21.42 | Guerin | vidma: if you're using sarge, use xfree from sarge. If your hardware doesn't work with xfree, or you use etch or sid, use xorg. |
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| 09:22.00 | celeborn | adding Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5" to xorg.conf doesn't seem to make my mouse work. Any suggestions? |
| 09:22.09 | chugga | hmm is it possible that there is a package in sid but not under testing because it has been depecated or simply just dropped? |
| 09:22.19 | AldoReset | hello i need help about apt-get ? somebody may elp me ? |
| 09:22.27 | Guerin | AldoReset: ask |
| 09:22.28 | liable | chugga: you're sure the mouse works? |
| 09:22.36 | vidma | Guerin: i am now 'etch' with xfree86. do i have to switch? how much is the effort? |
| 09:22.52 | liable | celeborn: what protocol you choosing? |
| 09:22.54 | Guerin | vidma: should be zero to minimal effort. |
| 09:23.04 | jomo39292 | jetscreamer i can't get it to write to a file name yet |
| 09:23.09 | Guerin | but then, if it works, why fuck with it? |
| 09:23.11 | chugga | liable, yep .. didnt have to touch a thing. everything (driver, weird non-stand laptop res of 1400x1050 dealt with, no mode lines, fonts easy to install .. mouse worked) .. |
| 09:23.19 | Gnea | woooo! fixed the nvidia problem with the toshiba laptop! |
| 09:23.31 | celeborn | liable: PS/2 for protocal.. device is /dev/input/mice |
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| 09:23.52 | Guerin | celeborn: imps/2 or explorerps/2 |
| 09:23.57 | jetscreamer | celeborn: imps2 for wheel or... ^^^ |
| 09:23.58 | vidma | Guerin: if i install X.org, it will replace xfree86 quietly and all devices with work as before? |
| 09:24.01 | jetscreamer | what he said |
| 09:24.02 | Guerin | ps/2 doesn't support wheeliness |
| 09:24.02 | liable | chugga: haha, thanks. sorry, misfire.. :) |
| 09:24.09 | Guerin | vidma: in theory. |
| 09:24.17 | Gnea | jetscreamer: dude... modprobe nvidia NVreg_Mobile=1 |
| 09:24.31 | vidma | Guerin: this is practical, not theoretical, work. |
| 09:24.40 | buu | vidma: It has for me the last couple of times, more or less |
| 09:24.40 | AldoReset | guerin: i have a multihome serveur (4 network interface with 4 different subnet), and my own subnet is one of this subnet but when i do apt-get update, apt-get is block by a fw, because resuest comme from an another subnet of my. i need to find a obtion in apt-get like -a in mtr or --bind-adresse of wget . |
| 09:24.50 | celeborn | liable, jetscreamer: ah, thank you very much |
| 09:25.02 | Guerin | vidma: since I don't know the ins and outs of your system, and haven't recently done this upgrade on etch, I can only speculate. |
| 09:25.19 | Guerin | AldoReset: woah, funky. |
| 09:25.24 | jetscreamer | i've worked on 2 recent-ish toshiba laptops, and both of them the hd went out |
| 09:25.35 | Gnea | which ones? |
| 09:25.48 | AldoReset | guerin: ;) |
| 09:25.57 | jetscreamer | satellite pro 25 and a satellite something |
| 09:25.59 | Guerin | AldoReset: apt has a good deal of documentation which you might consider reading - i don't know what you'd do off the top of my head |
| 09:26.03 | jetscreamer | i have the hd's here :) |
| 09:26.06 | vidma | Guerin: which supports newer devices more currently, Xorg or xfree? |
| 09:26.07 | Gnea | heh |
| 09:26.16 | Guerin | vidma: xorg |
| 09:26.22 | AldoReset | yes thanx for the rtfm ;) it a huge doc. |
| 09:26.39 | Gnea | jetscreamer: what make/model hds? |
| 09:26.43 | Guerin | AldoReset: yeah, it is. |
| 09:26.46 | chugga | liable, ohh. heh. no prob :) |
| 09:27.11 | vidma | Guerin: the right way to install Xorg is through apt? |
| 09:27.27 | jetscreamer | both toshiba's... one is a mk6021gas, and the other is an mk6022gax |
| 09:27.42 | jetscreamer | both are 60's iirc |
| 09:27.49 | jetscreamer | gigs |
| 09:28.02 | Guerin | vidma: yes. |
| 09:28.15 | vidma | Guerin: ok, thks. |
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| 09:29.08 | Gnea | jetscreamer: interesting... this one's got an (i think) ibm IC25N080ATMR04-0 80gig |
| 09:29.44 | Gnea | jetscreamer: oops, i'm wrong - hitachi, not ibm |
| 09:30.13 | jetscreamer | i wanted to buy a hitachi as a replacement for one but it wasn't in stock :( |
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| 09:30.34 | Gnea | i've only had this for a few months, haven't had a problem with it at all |
| 09:30.44 | Gnea | not sure how long it was installed prior |
| 09:30.54 | chugga | \ |
| 09:31.56 | jomo39292 | jetscreamer i can't get it to write to a file name yet , here is what i typed "hwinfo --monitor /home/monitor.txt" |
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| 09:32.08 | jomo39292 | when i do i can't find the file in /home/ |
| 09:32.11 | chaouJ | what do i ype to open port 22 in debian? |
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| 09:32.17 | liable | Gnea: dont know how to change background colour eh? i changed gallery.css, but the fucker is still white. |
| 09:32.22 | liable | Guerin: ^^ |
| 09:32.26 | liable | Gnea: sorry |
| 09:32.27 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: /lastlog jetscreamer ... hwinfo --monitor > file.name |
| 09:32.37 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:32.46 | liable | fuck, i wish i would stop doing that.. |
| 09:33.24 | chaouJ | what do i ype to open port 22 in debian? |
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| 09:33.35 | jomo39292 | now it says no file or directory |
| 09:34.03 | jomo39292 | forget it |
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| 09:34.08 | jomo39292 | i got it i think :) |
| 09:34.14 | Guerin | liable: yeah, haven't looked at that end of things yet |
| 09:34.37 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: don't forget the 'as root, or with sudo' |
| 09:35.01 | jetscreamer | chaouJ: configure your firewall? |
| 09:35.04 | buu | Woah, wtf? |
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| 09:35.21 | jetscreamer | chaouJ: your isp 'could' be blocking it |
| 09:35.25 | buu | Oh, I'm on 2.6.15, how entertaining. I thought you had to reboot to switch images? |
| 09:35.42 | jetscreamer | there's a new thing |
| 09:35.55 | jetscreamer | it's called no reboot to switch kernels |
| 09:35.56 | apikoros | hi -- new to debian (switched from slack). which file do i need to edit to control which modules debian probes for during boot? |
| 09:35.58 | jomo39292 | jetscreamer: here it is http://rafb.net/paste/results/Bdlo4q62.html |
| 09:36.04 | Guerin | chaouJ: install something which listens on it |
| 09:36.10 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: it's the stuff on the bottom |
| 09:36.12 | Guerin | chaouJ: debian has no firewall by default |
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| 09:36.25 | buu | Wee, I've got scsi drives |
| 09:36.41 | jomo39292 | what stuff on the bottom? |
| 09:36.47 | jetscreamer | yeah.. hold |
| 09:37.10 | jetscreamer | is that an lcd? |
| 09:37.19 | jomo39292 | no crt |
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| 09:38.54 | apikoros | in other words, i installed ndiswrapper correctly, but i don't want to modprobe for my pcmcia card myself.. i want it to be modprobed automatically on boot |
| 09:39.01 | apikoros | how do i set this up? anyone? |
| 09:39.36 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: the output looks like this, here http://rafb.net/paste/results/yL2PSe58.html |
| 09:40.19 | jetscreamer | apikoros: add the module name to /etc/modules but yo umay need to also edit modules.conf and that's another thing |
| 09:40.44 | Gnea | jetscreamer: it's pcmcia, what if s/he wants to unplug it? |
| 09:41.19 | jetscreamer | Gnea: and if it gets modprobed automatically on boot? |
| 09:41.22 | Gnea | iirc, there's a way for hotplug and pcmcia to talk to each other |
| 09:41.36 | jomo39292 | that was your right? http://rafb.net/paste/results/yL2PSe58.html |
| 09:41.37 | buu | Hrm. If I've got a cdburner on /dev/hdc, how do I make cdrecord see it? |
| 09:41.50 | jetscreamer | yeah but yours wil be different |
| 09:41.53 | Gnea | jetscreamer: right, but normal pcmcia devices have their module unloaded as soon as a device is unplugged - /etc/modules would leave it loaded |
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| 09:42.00 | jomo39292 | how? |
| 09:42.58 | apikoros | Gnea -- right, that causes a crash IIRC |
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| 09:43.09 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: go here and find your information http://www.proview.net/static/products/crt_series.html |
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| 09:43.41 | jetscreamer | you want to know the vertical and horizontal freqs |
| 09:43.51 | valdyn | chaouJ: that port is already open by default in debian |
| 09:43.59 | IcePenguin | Quick question all: webmin used to start at boot time for me. After I upgraded to 1.250, it no longer does so, and I need to type /etc/webmin/start in order to start webmin. How do I get webmin to load at boot time again? |
| 09:44.10 | jomo39292 | gotcha |
| 09:44.27 | liable | Guerin: ah, my bad, didnt copy the .css file over.. :) |
| 09:45.05 | jetscreamer | !tell IcePenguin -about webmin |
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| 09:46.56 | Gnea | grrr, how do i set a module option in /etc/modutils/file again? option nvidia NVreg_Mobile=1 <-- doesn't work |
| 09:47.20 | Gnea | i know update-modules afterwards |
| 09:47.23 | IcePenguin | Jetscreamer... thanks for the info... unfortunately at this time webmin is the only GUI config utility that I know of |
| 09:47.23 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: maybe dpkg-reconfigure webmin, but i don't know. the startup scripts are kept in /etc/init.d and then the various rc.blah's hold the symlinks to the scripts in init.d that are run on the various runlevles |
| 09:47.24 | buu | And I've got another problem |
| 09:47.26 | Gnea | the line itself is just incorrect |
| 09:47.34 | buu | I've got 5 pci cards plugged in, linux/bios only sees 5 |
| 09:47.35 | buu | er |
| 09:47.43 | buu | I've got *6* plugged in, I only see 5 |
| 09:47.49 | jetscreamer | and you use sysv-init or do something to it but i don't know anythjing about it |
| 09:47.50 | buu | Is there hackery to be performed there? |
| 09:47.56 | Gnea | buu: you may need to re-seat them |
| 09:48.05 | Gnea | buu: in a different order |
| 09:48.05 | buu | Gnea: They're in fairly solidly |
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| 09:48.11 | IcePenguin | okay I'll try some work on it.. thanks jetscreamer |
| 09:48.13 | buu | Gnea: Oh. Well, I've got 5 of the exact same type.. |
| 09:48.31 | Gnea | buu: ok, well not all PCI slots are the same - does the bios see all 6? |
| 09:48.36 | buu | Gnea: I don't believe so. |
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| 09:48.49 | jomo39292 | what next jetscreamer? |
| 09:48.49 | liable | buu: you need to lick the last one for good luck. (while its pluged in) this is a well known hack.. |
| 09:48.53 | buu | =[ |
| 09:49.00 | Gnea | liable: LOL |
| 09:49.11 | buu | Licking it while it's plugged in would be kind of pointless.. none of the stuff outside the bus conducts elctricity! |
| 09:49.29 | Gnea | buu: what are they? network cards? |
| 09:49.35 | buu | sata expansion |
| 09:49.36 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: do the drxx thing, chose advanced when given the option |
| 09:49.41 | jetscreamer | fill in the values |
| 09:49.53 | Gnea | dude, how many drives are you planning on hooking up? |
| 09:49.56 | buu | Gnea: 11 |
| 09:49.58 | jomo39292 | drxx? what's that? |
| 09:50.02 | jetscreamer | i have 7 |
| 09:50.05 | buu | I can see 9 so far =[ |
| 09:50.06 | jetscreamer | !drxx jomo39292 |
| 09:50.06 | dpkg | jomo39292: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 09:50.09 | buu | I'm so damn close. |
| 09:50.11 | Gnea | buu: are you sure you have the proper requirement? |
| 09:50.15 | buu | God I hope so. |
| 09:50.21 | Gnea | buu: er, proper power requirement |
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| 09:50.27 | buu | In theory. |
| 09:50.27 | IcePenguin | jetscreamer: dpkg-reconfigure webmin or dpkg -reconfigure webmin? |
| 09:50.33 | Gnea | define your 'theory' |
| 09:50.39 | buu | Gnea: 500 wats > 400 wats |
| 09:50.41 | buu | er, watts |
| 09:50.43 | buu | Whatever. |
| 09:50.57 | jetscreamer | one word .. but i don't know if webmin has that |
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| 09:51.09 | jetscreamer | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 09:51.16 | IcePenguin | okay got it.. |
| 09:51.20 | IcePenguin | i needed to su |
| 09:51.34 | Gnea | buu: ok try this - take them all out except for the first 2 cards and boot them up each with 1 drive and a knoppix cd - boot the knoppix to 2.6 to detect them |
| 09:51.34 | buu | Gnea: So, um, how do I make cdrecord work? |
| 09:51.51 | buu | Gnea: Er, why? |
| 09:51.58 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: if you ever had knoppix or whatever that old startup script could be in rc5 |
| 09:52.05 | Gnea | buu: it's called troubleshooting. |
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| 09:52.08 | jetscreamer | debian does it in 2 |
| 09:52.09 | buu | Gnea: But the first 5 work.. |
| 09:52.23 | Gnea | buu: do you want to fix the problem? then you need to go through these steps. |
| 09:52.37 | Gnea | buu: there is no 'magic bullet' |
| 09:52.43 | IcePenguin | jet: I'm a newbie to linux... I'm not sure I understand what runlevels are yet |
| 09:52.47 | jomo39292 | what answer for desired default color depth? |
| 09:52.49 | Gnea | buu: you need to unplug 3 of them. |
| 09:52.54 | Gnea | buu: er, 4 of them |
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| 09:53.23 | Gnea | buu: and just boot the system up to a knoppix cd that boots to a 2.6 kernel - you just want to see if it will detect, not set anything up at this point |
| 09:53.33 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: it's kinda of a way to have configs.. you can start different program loads, depending on the runlevel you chose to be in |
| 09:53.45 | jetscreamer | and you can change on the fly, not just on_boot |
| 09:53.46 | Gnea | buu: try starting with the first 2 cards in the pci slots closest to the CPU |
| 09:53.55 | IcePenguin | I think by default webmin runs in RL 2 |
| 09:54.11 | buu | Gnea: Yes, and then what? |
| 09:54.13 | tombo | Is there a _non interactive_ hexeditor I our distribution? |
| 09:54.28 | Gnea | buu: then keep the card in the slot that's closest to the CPU and power the system down, and move the other card to the next slot - repeat until you can't detect the card! |
| 09:54.34 | buu | Hrm. |
| 09:54.44 | jetscreamer | check around in /etc/init.d , and see if there are any webmin scripts... then look in the various rc.blahs for the links for it |
| 09:54.52 | buu | What is the name of the x-server ? |
| 09:54.53 | Gnea | if you can detect the 2nd card in each, then introduce a 3rd card to the mix |
| 09:54.56 | IcePenguin | rc.'s are in /etc/ too? |
| 09:55.00 | jetscreamer | x-window=system |
| 09:55.01 | jetscreamer | yes |
| 09:55.08 | jetscreamer | x-window-system |
| 09:55.11 | Gnea | x-window-system? |
| 09:55.12 | Gnea | :) |
| 09:55.15 | buu | Yeah =/ |
| 09:55.26 | buu | I'll just give up and use k3b |
| 09:55.39 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: but that's about all i know about runleveling |
| 09:56.00 | jetscreamer | wtf good is k3b gonna do you if you can't get the drives working |
| 09:56.02 | jetscreamer | ? |
| 09:56.05 | buu | jetscreamer: I need to burn a cd |
| 09:56.08 | buu | cdrecord is not working |
| 09:56.11 | jetscreamer | ah |
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| 09:56.21 | samara | Hai |
| 09:56.22 | jetscreamer | k3b usually functions |
| 09:56.22 | IcePenguin | Okay Jet... there is a webmin script in /etc/init.d |
| 09:56.35 | Gnea | knoppix is a very good tool when it comes to hardware detection :) |
| 09:56.37 | IcePenguin | but apparently it's not working |
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| 09:56.47 | Gnea | so's kanotix |
| 09:57.00 | buu | Gnea: And after I've done all this and found out which slot isn't seeing the card, what do I do then? |
| 09:57.01 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: ok, but it's not run unless there is a link in the runlevel you are in |
| 09:57.03 | Guerin | liable: i just hack on the .tpl files |
| 09:57.11 | jetscreamer | /etc/rc.2 or something |
| 09:57.34 | Guerin | liable: unfortunately the fuckers chose a div class name I already use for my site's css |
| 09:57.35 | jomo39292 | jetscremer, what next after i finish |
| 09:57.35 | jomo39292 | dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 09:57.39 | liable | Guerin: i changed the .css and copied over and all was sweet. |
| 09:57.42 | IcePenguin | so hunt in there for a link to /etc/init.d/webmin.sh? |
| 09:57.46 | Guerin | so a lot of my shit is right-aligned and broken |
| 09:58.06 | Gnea | buu: i would then refer to the documentation for the motherboard and see what it has to say about the pci slots - you may want to try that now, just to get an idea of where to predict the fault at |
| 09:58.25 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: /etc/init.d/?dm restart if you use a dm, otherwise just restart x. |
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| 09:59.13 | jetscreamer | hopefully you got all the questions right... :o |
| 09:59.48 | IcePenguin | Jet: /etc/init.d/webmin.sh exists |
| 09:59.51 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: it will say S20webmin or somehting |
| 09:59.56 | jetscreamer | in one of the rc's |
| 10:00.06 | IcePenguin | and also /etc/rc5.d/S20webmin |
| 10:00.12 | jetscreamer | or just make one, but i don't know the proper procedure for those |
| 10:00.14 | jetscreamer | aha |
| 10:00.41 | jetscreamer | ok type runlevel |
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| 10:01.23 | IcePenguin | jet: it returns N 2 |
| 10:01.52 | jomo39292 | still the same on quality of color and resolution |
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| 10:02.19 | jetscreamer | ok. so if you were root, and typed init 5, it would go to runlevel 5 and crank up webmin. and stop anything not in 5 |
| 10:02.45 | jetscreamer | so man sysvinit or something... you are now in my twilight zone |
| 10:02.50 | TGoC | How can i see wich packages i installed? |
| 10:02.51 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: what vid card |
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| 10:03.06 | TGoC | cause i see i have 153 installed and i bet i don't even use half of them |
| 10:03.08 | jetscreamer | dpkg --get-selections > blah |
| 10:03.08 | jomo39292 | trident providia9685 |
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| 10:03.16 | IcePenguin | jet: but the problem is: other stuff in rc.5 is getting executed |
| 10:03.23 | IcePenguin | just not webmin.sh |
| 10:03.44 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: so you need to get the one in rc.5 into rc.2 |
| 10:04.06 | jetscreamer | me i'd just copy stuff, but it's not the debian way |
| 10:04.07 | jon_kare | is udev 0.80 ok with kernel 2.6.14? |
| 10:04.21 | jetscreamer | and i don't know about sysvinit.. man it or somelthilng |
| 10:04.47 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: what chip is it based on |
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| 10:05.02 | jetscreamer | nvidia? ati? other? |
| 10:05.16 | jomo39292 | Trident |
| 10:05.39 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: if there isn't a link starting webmin in /etc/rc2.d then the package has been mangled in someway. "apt-get remove webmin" "apt-get install webmin" (and associated modules) is probably the best approach. If you haven't customised webmin it might be better to purge the packages. Sure you could just create the link required with "ln" but you don't know what else is broken. Stay within the packaging system.... |
| 10:05.43 | jetscreamer | maybe it's just a crappy driver |
| 10:06.18 | IcePenguin | jet: I went into webmin and looked at my boot configuration. webmin.sh occurs on runlevels 2, 3, 4, 5. It stops on runlevel 0, 1, 6. Any ideas? |
| 10:06.22 | jetscreamer | how old is it |
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| 10:06.42 | jomo39292 | pretty old... more than 7 years |
| 10:06.46 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: if it is there - then try /etc/init.d/webmin start |
| 10:06.55 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: if it's not in /etc/rc.2 then it's not on runlevel 2 |
| 10:06.57 | jetscreamer | iirc |
| 10:07.02 | jetscreamer | but i don't know |
| 10:07.19 | crypt_ex | What tools have we got then for encoding DivX in Debian Sarge? |
| 10:07.34 | jetscreamer | /msg dpkg marillat crypt_ex |
| 10:07.41 | crypt_ex | ta |
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| 10:07.46 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: but does it look better in windows? |
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| 10:07.51 | jetscreamer | :o |
| 10:08.08 | jomo39292 | it was ok |
| 10:08.16 | jomo39292 | better than linux |
| 10:08.21 | IcePenguin | gnufa1: terminal replied nothing... it went from filter:/# /etc/init.d/webmin start to another terminal line (filter:/#) |
| 10:08.47 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: is agpgart loaded? |
| 10:08.54 | crypt_ex | jetscreamer, I have this already setup with mplayer installed...I take it mplayer can encode divx? |
| 10:08.54 | eis_os | whats the best way to extract the apache sources, apply all diffs and then don't compile it? |
| 10:08.59 | jetscreamer | and the associated module? |
| 10:09.00 | IcePenguin | do you think the shell script in init.d is messed, gnufa1? |
| 10:09.04 | jomo39292 | it's not agp |
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| 10:09.10 | jomo39292 | it's a pci card |
| 10:09.17 | jetscreamer | crypt_ex: i think mencoder is mplayer's encoder |
| 10:09.23 | jetscreamer | ah |
| 10:09.24 | stoned | is there a program that lets me use the mouse in the console mode, no X |
| 10:09.29 | jetscreamer | !gpm |
| 10:09.30 | dpkg | i guess gpm is if you can get your mouse to work in GPM but not X, set repeat_type=ms3 in /etc/gpm.conf ; /etc/init.d/gpm restart; set X to use device /dev/gpmdata and protocol Intellimouse; or (see http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-install.en.html#s-gpm also), or talk to peterS for he is the master |
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| 10:09.32 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: and is webmin now running? |
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| 10:09.44 | jetscreamer | stoned, gpm |
| 10:09.47 | jetscreamer | sorry |
| 10:09.52 | crypt_ex | thanks jetscreamer I will look into the rest from here, but thanks for pointing me in the right direction. |
| 10:09.54 | IcePenguin | No |
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| 10:10.23 | IcePenguin | script in /etc/init.d/webmin is the same as /etc/rc.2/webmin, though |
| 10:10.35 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: well you should check the log files, you can probably also run "sh -x /etc/init.d/webmin start" to see what it actually is doing. |
| 10:10.39 | IcePenguin | if I do /etc/webmin/start webmin will start |
| 10:10.55 | eis_os | I tried dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -d build it results in errors that it can't stat /usr/share/libtool/ files |
| 10:11.13 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: all i can do now that i've crapped out is give you this: http://xfree.org/sos/resources.html |
| 10:11.40 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: how did you install webmin? |
| 10:11.55 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: you might want to get DRI going, but i know nothing |
| 10:12.25 | jomo39292 | what's DRI? |
| 10:12.49 | IcePenguin | i ran synaptics package manager (gnome) but then i updated webmin through webmin... it downloaded and installed a tarball off the web. |
| 10:12.49 | jetscreamer | http://xfree.org/4.4.0/trident.4.html |
| 10:13.29 | IcePenguin | gnufa1... sorry to be lame... how do i make a symlink |
| 10:13.35 | IcePenguin | i think i found the problem |
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| 10:14.15 | jetscreamer | IcePenguin: man ln |
| 10:14.29 | jetscreamer | ln -sn target symlink-name |
| 10:15.18 | IcePenguin | apparently webmin.sh checks to see if /usr/share/webmin/miniconf.pl exists. when i upgraded to 1.250, the file now resides in /usr/share/webmin-1.250/miniconf.pl |
| 10:15.33 | IcePenguin | so if i just symlink it... that should take care of it, eh? |
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| 10:17.55 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: that looks plausible, but I think updating it through a tarball was probably a mistake. |
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| 10:18.10 | IcePenguin | i think that did it, though. |
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| 10:18.17 | IcePenguin | lemme reboot it and see |
| 10:18.24 | IcePenguin | gnufa1: why's that? |
| 10:18.45 | jetscreamer | it's not the debian way.. but it does get you updates |
| 10:19.14 | IcePenguin | well, *I* didn't do it... webmin did it internally. i just clicked update |
| 10:19.24 | jetscreamer | oh.. and breaks it, apparently |
| 10:19.33 | IcePenguin | cuz I'm a Mac user :D |
| 10:19.37 | IcePenguin | i guess |
| 10:19.38 | jetscreamer | in a smal way :) |
| 10:19.43 | IcePenguin | yeah |
| 10:20.00 | IcePenguin | that directory name change really muffs crap up |
| 10:20.21 | raf256 | oh my fucking god! now no KDE applications start :[ due to screwed up MIME in kdelibs |
| 10:20.23 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: as jet says, when there is a webmin security issues you'll have to check which version you have etc, where as the Debian way would allow you to let apticron take care of it for you. That sort of thing. |
| 10:20.24 | raf256 | !unstablesmite me |
| 10:20.56 | IcePenguin | what is this Debian way you speak of? |
| 10:21.04 | IcePenguin | i'm a new debian user, sorry :\ |
| 10:21.05 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: it is a pertual balance between the latest version, maintainability etc. |
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| 10:21.38 | IcePenguin | ah |
| 10:21.58 | raf256 | god damned freaking kde unstable |
| 10:22.02 | jetscreamer | i run sid |
| 10:22.13 | jetscreamer | those 2 apps work |
| 10:22.26 | eis_os | hmm, dpkg-buildpackage -S doesn't create a buildroot with all configure stuff |
| 10:22.28 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: If you get all your code from Debian packages (via apt, aptitude) you shouldn't need to fiddle with source tarballs, renaming directories. Obviously you aren't to know this if webmin gives you an "update" button. Same question arises with Perl code "CPAN, or Apt", PHP code now they have their own archive. |
| 10:22.36 | jetscreamer | i just updated a couple hours ago |
| 10:22.38 | jomo39292 | what's the difference between XFConfig-4 and XF86Config? in /etc/X11/? |
| 10:22.50 | IcePenguin | ah |
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| 10:23.33 | jetscreamer | jomo39292: the -4 is used if present, and it's the version... there is something to read about it on the xfree site, but that's it in a nutshell |
| 10:23.48 | IcePenguin | gnufa: thanks for the help with webmin! do you know a bit about networking? :D |
| 10:23.49 | jetscreamer | it will use either, though |
| 10:23.49 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: The clever people make their own debian packages of the updated software they need, and then upload it to Debian (or elsewhere dotdeb, backports). I aim to get to that level soon, meanwhile my "real servers" are all built from Debian packages with just a little bit of CPAN magic, and some stuff from dotdeb. |
| 10:24.15 | celeborn | when I do apt-get check it shows me that I should do apt-get -f install to install "udev" but then it just produces an error, is there a way to fix this? |
| 10:24.19 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: a bit (ex firewall sales guy)..... |
| 10:24.38 | crypt_ex | I think k3b has just wasted another cd, I am trying to burn an audio cd from mp3s.... but each time it says it successfully burns it, but then fails to play in anything. Am I missing something? |
| 10:24.43 | IcePenguin | maybe you could help me... I'm working on a cheapo content filter for a small school |
| 10:24.46 | celeborn | because when I apt-get install alsa-base it also tells me to do apt-get -f install |
| 10:25.09 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: there are some Squid stuff to help filter school content. |
| 10:25.18 | jetscreamer | last time i recommended dselect to fix stuff i got called a liar |
| 10:25.23 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 10:25.24 | dpkg | [fix-unmet] run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 10:25.24 | gnufa1 | s/are/is/ even <doh> |
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| 10:25.47 | IcePenguin | gnufa: I have everything setup: Internet > eth0 > squid, dansguardian, DHCP server > eth1 > switches |
| 10:25.48 | jetscreamer | or an idiot |
| 10:25.50 | leleobhz | i trying to install debian testing via netinstal |
| 10:25.51 | jetscreamer | or a troll |
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| 10:25.59 | IcePenguin | the proxy works fine |
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| 10:26.08 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: sounds good so far |
| 10:26.08 | IcePenguin | but XP PC |
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| 10:26.13 | leleobhz | appear on my term, /sbin/termwrap dont exist |
| 10:26.18 | leleobhz | how i can fix it |
| 10:26.20 | leleobhz | ? |
| 10:26.22 | IcePenguin | XP PC's wont pick up the DHCP server |
| 10:26.27 | ne0futur | is there a mean to use jabber from irssi ? |
| 10:26.31 | larmer | Hi. I'd need help with mounting Windows98 partitions. "mount -t vfat ..." hasn't worked this far |
| 10:26.31 | IcePenguin | I don't understand it |
| 10:26.39 | ne0futur | ( or is there a good text jabber client ) |
| 10:26.53 | leleobhz | (this after a first boot) |
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| 10:27.27 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: never heard of XP not picking up the DHCP settings. Are you sure a) they are on the same network b) they haven't had static IP addresses set, c) there are no other DHCP servers |
| 10:28.01 | grexk | hell room |
| 10:28.01 | IcePenguin | XP PC's, when plugged in, don't light up the LINK LED on the eth1 card. When I plug in my iBook, the LINK and ACT LEDs come on and I can grab a DHCP address. |
| 10:28.38 | Gnea | !dbugs 343186 |
| 10:28.38 | dpkg | #343186:[nvidia-kernel-source] nvidia-kernel-source 8174 Fails to load proper with 2.6.1[234]; Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:03:08 UTC |
| 10:28.49 | crypt_ex | Does anyone know about this issue I am having with k3b, cannot read burned cds which I just burnt? Annoying, because its wasting cds each time. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, |
| 10:28.51 | IcePenguin | gnufa: it's a testing setting so the DHCP server has a PC plugged right into the eth1 jack |
| 10:29.19 | Gnea | crypt_ex: you can mount other cds just fine? |
| 10:29.30 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: argh - try getting a simple hub or switch, some ethernet cards don't autodetect that they are plugged in directly. |
| 10:29.31 | grexk | crypt_ex: man mount |
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| 10:29.57 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: ethernet requires a crossed cable for direct plug to work 100% of the time. |
| 10:29.59 | Gnea | IcePenguin: you need a crossover cable in order to connect direct |
| 10:30.03 | crypt_ex | Gnea, will try. |
| 10:30.20 | IcePenguin | dammit |
| 10:30.32 | IcePenguin | i think I'm using a patch cable |
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| 10:30.43 | crypt_ex | Grexk yea but fstab should be setup accordingly with auto. |
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| 10:31.05 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: those firewalls I use to sell came with three crossed and three normal cables, in different colours - made life easier ;) |
| 10:31.18 | ootput | does unstable have a security repo? |
| 10:31.19 | Gnea | crypt_ex: noauto, actually |
| 10:31.24 | Gnea | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:31.32 | leleobhz | someone can help? |
| 10:31.39 | crypt_ex | yea thats the one |
| 10:31.41 | IcePenguin | gnufa: the ethernet cards on the PCs have autosense, though |
| 10:31.45 | gnufa1 | ootput: don't think so - I think they just load up the new packages when ready |
| 10:31.46 | Gnea | !tell leleobhz about ask |
| 10:32.19 | crypt_ex | Gnea, cannot mount an original cd either. |
| 10:32.22 | Gnea | IcePenguin: if the cable isn't the right one, then it's not going to pass anything. standard ethernet cables require a hub or switch. |
| 10:32.36 | Gnea | crypt_ex: what's your /etc/fstab line for the cdrom? |
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| 10:32.45 | crypt_ex | Gnea, /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1 iso9660 ro,users,noauto 0 0 |
| 10:32.52 | crypt_ex | Gnea, I have two cdroms. |
| 10:32.54 | grexk | crypt_ex:dmesg then find ur cdom... |
| 10:32.54 | Gnea | that looks right |
| 10:32.56 | crypt_ex | drives |
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| 10:33.08 | Gnea | crypt_ex: yeah - what command are you using to mount? |
| 10:33.35 | crypt_ex | mount /media/cdrom1 |
| 10:33.56 | crypt_ex | Grexk hdc: command error: status=0x51 { DriveReady SeekComplete Error } |
| 10:33.57 | grexk | crypt_ex:mount /dev/cdrom /mount-point |
| 10:34.01 | IcePenguin | Gnea: but I can grab DHCP addresses on my iBook...? |
| 10:34.09 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: I think autosense only guarantees to get you the speed. Could be wrong on that - I think try a hub (doesn't everyone have cupboards full of spare 10Mbps hubs?) |
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| 10:34.44 | Gnea | crypt_ex: cat /proc/ide/hdc/model |
| 10:35.02 | crypt_ex | Gnea, SONY DVD RW DW-U10A |
| 10:35.04 | Gnea | IcePenguin: without a hub/switch? |
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| 10:35.10 | grexk | BRB |
| 10:35.13 | IcePenguin | Gnea: yes |
| 10:35.36 | larmer | Hello guys. I'd need help with mounting Windows98 partitions. The w98 disk's first partition gets mounted with option "-t vfat" but the other partiotions won't. |
| 10:35.36 | crypt_ex | Grexk thats just the same as mount /media/cdrom1 |
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| 10:35.42 | Gnea | crypt_ex: dmesg | grep Kernel\ command |
| 10:36.04 | gnufa1 | larmer: what error do you get? |
| 10:36.25 | larmer | "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc3, |
| 10:36.25 | larmer | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:36.38 | Gnea | IcePenguin: i'm not sure then - sounds like you've got the right cable, is linux sensing that it's plugged in/lit up? |
| 10:36.41 | crypt_ex | Gnea, replacing command with mount -t iso9660 /dev/hdc /media/cdrom1/ ? |
| 10:37.04 | grexk | YES |
| 10:37.06 | Gnea | crypt_ex: no no, output of: dmesg | grep Kernel\ command |
| 10:37.24 | crypt_ex | Gnea, results in nothing. |
| 10:37.43 | Gnea | crypt_ex: how about: grep Kernel\ command /var/log/dmesg |
| 10:37.50 | chugga | !dpkg vlc |
| 10:37.50 | dpkg | well, vlc is the VideoLAN Client. It's a MPEG2 client/server program for broadcasting. It can also be used standalone as an normal MPEG2/DVD player. See http://www.videolan.org, or apt-gettable. |
| 10:38.00 | chugga | i cant apt-get vlc.. |
| 10:38.03 | crypt_ex | Gnea, grep Kernel\ command /var/log/dmesg |
| 10:38.04 | chugga | it doesnt come up in a search |
| 10:38.06 | crypt_ex | oops |
| 10:38.08 | Gnea | chugga: i can |
| 10:38.08 | IcePenguin | Gnea: If I plug the iBook or my home DSL router into either eth0 or eth1, linux sees it. If I plug the PC in on either... nothing. |
| 10:38.13 | crypt_ex | Gnea, Kernel command line: root=/dev/hda1 ro |
| 10:38.14 | IcePenguin | Using the exact same cable. |
| 10:38.17 | raf256 | ok I debugged a bit |
| 10:38.21 | raf256 | it seems usr/share/config/magic is missing |
| 10:38.26 | raf256 | what do you have in that dir? |
| 10:38.28 | Gnea | crypt_ex: ah, then your drive isn't setup right for burning |
| 10:38.31 | chugga | Gnea, whats the package called? |
| 10:38.37 | Gnea | crypt_ex: is that a 2.4 or 2.6 kernel? |
| 10:38.40 | Gnea | chugga: vlc |
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| 10:39.00 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: some ethernet cards can autodetect the absence of a crossover cable and correct, but it isn't universal... |
| 10:39.12 | chugga | Gnea, its not on etch. what a bugger. |
| 10:39.13 | crypt_ex | Gnea, its 2.4....plus I have just stuck in an original music cd in the other cdrom drive and get the same problem though. |
| 10:39.15 | Gnea | IcePenguin: dunno :/ |
| 10:39.17 | IcePenguin | I think my iBook can do that, gnufa |
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| 10:39.28 | Gnea | chugga: ah |
| 10:39.55 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: I'd be surprised if Apples couldn't, they use good components.... unbranded PC clone makers on the other hand use cheap components |
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| 10:40.08 | crypt_ex | Gnea, same with hdd as well as hdc |
| 10:40.11 | larmer | Does anyone have ideas how to mount windows partitions? The first partition goes with "-t vfat" but the others won't |
| 10:40.12 | celeborn | what do you do when apt-get -f install has an error and you can't install anything else? |
| 10:40.12 | Gnea | crypt_ex: i recommend upgrading to a 2.6 kernel and following the cd/dvd burning howto for getting the drive setup to burn - that solves read issues (that you're experiencing) as well |
| 10:40.23 | Gnea | crypt_ex: http://www.tldp.org has it |
| 10:40.47 | crypt_ex | okay cool, will this be an apt-get upgrade, or full kernel compile? |
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| 10:41.07 | Gnea | neither, you can install a kernel-image-<version> package |
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| 10:41.17 | leleobhz | err |
| 10:41.21 | Gnea | crypt_ex: is that sarge? |
| 10:41.22 | crypt_ex | ah simple, the joys of Debians packages :D |
| 10:41.27 | Gnea | :) |
| 10:41.31 | leleobhz | i have asked Gnea |
| 10:41.32 | crypt_ex | Gnea, Correct. |
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| 10:41.41 | IcePenguin | All right... thanks for your help, gnea, jetscreamer, and gnufa1... one more quick question, though. |
| 10:41.47 | Gnea | leleobhz: didn't see it, ask again. don't have time to backscroll. |
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| 10:42.04 | leleobhz | Gnea: i trying to install debian etch |
| 10:42.07 | Gnea | crypt_ex: cool, should be 2.6.8 then |
| 10:42.16 | gnufa1 | larmer: I'd try sdisk and head and file, to try and figure out what sort of partition they are. |
| 10:42.17 | Gnea | !tell leleobhz about ask |
| 10:42.18 | sjaakz0r | is it the best option to install stable and immediately go to kernel 2.6 ? |
| 10:42.20 | j1p | I recently installed testing with the 2.6.12 kernel, and my touchpad works perfectly for a little while when the system starts, then when I start a program, such as Mozilla, the touchpad stops working completely |
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| 10:42.30 | leleobhz | on first boot, it say dont have /usr/sbin/termwrap |
| 10:42.38 | Gnea | that sucks |
| 10:42.39 | leleobhz | Gnea: what can be? |
| 10:42.39 | gnufa1 | larmer: or mount without any option and let it figure it out |
| 10:42.42 | Gnea | i don't run etch |
| 10:43.00 | Gnea | leleobhz: the proper way is to install sarge and aptitude upgrade to etch |
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| 10:43.13 | larmer | gnufa1, ok thanks for your help. it worked when I tried different hdcX numbers. they obviously don't go 1 2 3 4 as I thought |
| 10:43.14 | Gnea | leleobhz: but you may want to file a bug report as well |
| 10:43.14 | IcePenguin | When I plug eth1, which has the DHCP server/"private network" on it into a switch, the switch will autosense that that is the outgoing port? |
| 10:43.19 | Gnea | !tell leleobhz about b ts |
| 10:43.20 | Gnea | !tell leleobhz about bts |
| 10:43.33 | celeborn | what do you do when apt-get -f install has an error and you can't install anything else? |
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| 10:43.47 | gnufa1 | sjaakz0r: what are you trying to achieve? You can use a 2.6 kernel for the install itself as well... "linux26" at the boot prompt |
| 10:43.53 | leleobhz | and in bts, the isue will be reported on d-i, ok? |
| 10:43.59 | Gnea | celeborn: what package is it stuck on? |
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| 10:44.06 | crypt_ex | Gnea, just a matter of executing apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-386 then? |
| 10:44.18 | celeborn | Gnea: udev requires a kernel >= 2.6.12, upgrade aborted |
| 10:44.20 | crypt_ex | then this should be added to grub? |
| 10:44.26 | KerPlunk | crypt_ex: yes |
| 10:44.30 | Gnea | leleobhz: you need to find out what package /usr/sbin/termwrap is in and make a proper report |
| 10:44.35 | crypt_ex | cool. thanks |
| 10:44.36 | gnufa1 | larmer: I mounted /dev/hda1 the other days and it was a minute or two before I realised that it was the DELL diagnostic partition, and not where the broken version of Windows lived. |
| 10:44.42 | Gnea | crypt_ex: well, what cpu is it? |
| 10:44.44 | celeborn | Gnea: errors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/udev_0.080-1_i386.deb |
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| 10:44.47 | KerPlunk | crypt_ex: You just type that apt-get command...and then it will automatically add it to grub. |
| 10:44.50 | IcePenguin | gnufa? |
| 10:44.56 | crypt_ex | Gnea, AMD Athlon 2400 XP |
| 10:45.01 | Gnea | celeborn: oh, cat /proc/version ? |
| 10:45.11 | crypt_ex | 686? |
| 10:45.15 | Gnea | crypt_ex: see if there's a kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 10:45.15 | leleobhz | ok |
| 10:45.22 | leleobhz | thanks Gnea |
| 10:45.27 | Gnea | no, 686 is pentium4 |
| 10:45.33 | celeborn | Gnea: 2.6.8-2-386 |
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| 10:45.42 | blondie | Gnea: no it's not |
| 10:45.47 | crypt_ex | ? |
| 10:46.00 | blondie | 686 is Pentium Pro, PII and later |
| 10:46.02 | Gnea | celeborn: is this with etch or sid? |
| 10:46.04 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: sorry don't quite understand your question.... |
| 10:46.06 | larmer | gnufa1, crazy |
| 10:46.09 | crypt_ex | there is an k7....but isnt that a little old for AMD 2400+? |
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| 10:46.20 | ootput | gnufa1: do you use sid yourself? |
| 10:46.29 | Gnea | blondie: true, but at that level of cpu, it is |
| 10:46.31 | celeborn | Gnea: What do you mean? I used stable netinst cd, changed apt to unstable, then got kernel package |
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| 10:46.48 | gnufa1 | ootput: sid at home, sarge on the servers and work desktop |
| 10:46.49 | tca | Hello. Should I expect much breakage if I upgrade to gnome 2.12 from unstable? |
| 10:46.55 | Gnea | celeborn: oh ok, so it's sid. |
| 10:47.04 | Gnea | !tell celeborn about sid |
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| 10:47.30 | Gnea | celeborn: just remove udev, install 2.6.15, reboot, then install udev |
| 10:47.31 | IcePenguin | okay, eth1 has a DHCP server on it, which will serve all network computers with a DHCP address. From there, all the computers' HTTP requests will be funneled through a squid/dansguardian proxy. The computers connect to eth1, which in turn uses eth0 to get to the internet. |
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| 10:47.43 | celeborn | Gnea: how exactly would I do that? |
| 10:48.07 | Gnea | celeborn: apt-get remove <packagename> |
| 10:48.11 | IcePenguin | when I plug eth1 into a switch... the switch will automatically determine that that particular connection is the outbound connection, correct? |
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| 10:48.28 | Gnea | celeborn: type apt-get by itself will tell you the commands |
| 10:48.36 | blondie | IcePenguin: switches are dumber than that |
| 10:48.39 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: got you... but the DHCP server will serve a default route, and that IP address will determine where packets go. |
| 10:48.39 | blondie | but yes |
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| 10:49.00 | blondie | or rather, traffic is two way |
| 10:49.01 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: is the proxy transparent? |
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| 10:49.09 | Gnea | crypt_ex: the k7 encompasses the XP |
| 10:49.12 | IcePenguin | umm... no idea |
| 10:49.20 | celeborn | Gnea: I'm not sure if it removed it, is there a way to check?' |
| 10:49.28 | IcePenguin | you have to enter proxy settings into the browser to get to the internet |
| 10:49.35 | IcePenguin | if that helps |
| 10:49.37 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: do people need to set the "proxy" settings in their webbrowser, or does it "just work" |
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| 10:49.39 | Gnea | celeborn: if apt-get -f install is still failing on it, then it's not installed, but it's not removed |
| 10:49.43 | blondie | IcePenguin: wpad! |
| 10:49.45 | DevilChaos | hi folks |
| 10:49.47 | celeborn | Gnea: it mentioned "The following packages have unmet depenencies" |
| 10:50.01 | IcePenguin | gnufa: as of right now, proxy.... but i would like to have it just work. |
| 10:50.01 | KerPlunk | !tell DevilChaos about ask |
| 10:50.31 | celeborn | Gnea: apt-get -f install still fails after doing apt-get remove udev |
| 10:50.39 | celeborn | Gnea: same error =\ |
| 10:51.01 | DevilChaos | kerplunk im still allowed to say hi before i ask my question the was a bit pretentious |
| 10:51.08 | blondie | DevilChaos: indeed it was |
| 10:51.09 | Gnea | celeborn: but did apt-get remove udev actually remove udev? |
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| 10:51.31 | blondie | !tell KerPlunk about manners |
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| 10:52.16 | celeborn | Gnea: I'm not sure, should it give a confirmation? |
| 10:52.22 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: there are plenty of explanations of transparent proxy - I think debian-administration.org has a good one. However the route packets take out of a network is down to the IP address of the router. You can do clever stuff with "arp" to put firewalls and proxie in front of a router transparently at the "IP level" (not a transparent proxy). But basically packets go to the IP address they are addressed to, or the "routes" (or default ro |
| 10:52.31 | KerPlunk | !tell blondie about manners |
| 10:52.31 | quitte | hi. how can i build the kernel drm module for savage? |
| 10:52.35 | Gnea | celeborn: it should say - paste the output of apt-get -f install to the paster |
| 10:52.39 | Gnea | !paster |
| 10:52.39 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 10:53.04 | Gnea | !tell KerPlunk about rules |
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| 10:53.26 | IcePenguin | gnufa: so will it work the way I have it set up right now, or will I need to buy a managed switch so I can define routes? |
| 10:53.29 | celeborn | Gnea: it just said "reading package lists...done" "building dependency tree... done" then the "you might want to run apt-get -f install to correct these" then it gives the "hal: Depends: udev but it is not going to be installed" error |
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| 10:53.39 | crypt_ex | Gnea, just installed this new kernel, lets hope this works. bbiab |
| 10:53.43 | DevilChaos | im trying to upgrade my laptop from woody but have ip conflict need to change the ip the ip on the laptop is the same as my gateway/router any help? |
| 10:53.46 | celeborn | Gnea: it's on another computer not this one, sorry I can't paste it directly |
| 10:53.48 | IcePenguin | ... As opposed to a regular consumer "dumb" switch |
| 10:53.50 | Gnea | celeborn: try removeing hal then |
| 10:53.53 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: anyway the transparent proxy stuff can be left till last. You can always stop ports 80 and 443 at the firewall for everything but the proxy server. |
| 10:53.53 | Gnea | *removing |
| 10:54.09 | DevilChaos | ive racked my brain but cant think of how to do it |
| 10:54.19 | celeborn | Gnea: then it says gnome-volume-manager depends on hal |
| 10:54.21 | Gnea | DevilChaos: setup dhcp, not static ip |
| 10:54.27 | Gnea | !tell DevilChaos about interfaces |
| 10:54.32 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: dumb switches are better - I don't need anything more which needs configuring ;) |
| 10:54.39 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 10:54.53 | Gnea | celeborn: it's gnome, go ahead and remove it :) |
| 10:54.56 | IcePenguin | excellent! well, I need to hit the hay... it's 5am over here |
| 10:54.59 | blondie | IcePenguin: no, switches don't care about routing - it just works |
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| 10:55.05 | IcePenguin | thanks so much for the help guys |
| 10:55.12 | DevilChaos | 5am doh |
| 10:55.21 | Gnea | IcePenguin: rockin' |
| 10:55.30 | gnufa1 | IcePenguin: you'd figured it all out yourself if you'd slept instead I'm sure |
| 10:55.36 | POVaddct | IcePenguin: here it's 12am |
| 10:55.40 | DevilChaos | peace icepenguin |
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| 10:55.52 | celeborn | Gnea: when I try to apt-get remove gnome, it gives me "udev: Depends: hotplug" |
| 10:55.55 | DevilChaos | 1053am gmt |
| 10:56.07 | IcePenguin | heh, i doubt it gnufa :D |
| 10:56.07 | IcePenguin | thanks again, bye |
| 10:56.11 | DevilChaos | just up |
| 10:56.11 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 10:56.20 | celeborn | Gnea: and if I try to remove gnome-volume-manager, it evetually leads to trying to remove gnome |
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| 10:56.31 | blondie | POVaddct: presumably you mean 12pm |
| 10:56.43 | POVaddct | erm, yes |
| 10:56.47 | POVaddct | Sat Jan 14 11:59:20 CET 2006 |
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| 10:56.59 | Gnea | celeborn: ok what cpu is it? |
| 10:57.12 | crypt_ex | Gnea, that k7 kernel does not work with a AMD 2400!!! :S Installing the 686 now |
| 10:57.20 | celeborn | Gnea: the processor? Pentium 4 |
| 10:57.25 | blondie | celeborn: yes it does |
| 10:57.34 | ootput | crypt_ex: it works fine here |
| 10:57.36 | Gnea | crypt_ex: grrrr, it should |
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| 10:57.46 | crypt_ex | loads of cpu errors |
| 10:57.48 | blondie | er crypt_ex not celeborn |
| 10:57.58 | valdyn | crypt_ex: cpu errors? |
| 10:57.59 | crypt_ex | :S |
| 10:58.00 | celeborn | =) blondie |
| 10:58.06 | valdyn | crypt_ex: like what? |
| 10:58.08 | ootput | typical blonde |
| 10:58.30 | crypt_ex | erm.....didnt record it, just loads of errors pumping past the screen with CPU one of the words mentioned |
| 10:58.43 | crypt_ex | I'll reboot and record them and let you know. |
| 10:58.54 | valdyn | crypt_ex: those errors certainly do not mean that your kernel is not working properly with your cpu |
| 10:58.57 | ootput | are you sure it's all kernel-related? |
| 10:59.00 | Gnea | celeborn: ok go to the debian package webpage and get the linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 .deb file, download it, and install it: dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.15-1-686_yada.deb |
| 10:59.13 | crypt_ex | Valdyn, installing 686 now though |
| 10:59.14 | sjaakz0r | can I install xorg on stable? |
| 10:59.19 | valdyn | crypt_ex: but they could be cpu - generated exceptions |
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| 10:59.29 | Gnea | crypt_ex: what were the errors |
| 10:59.46 | ootput | sjaakz0r: backports, iirc |
| 10:59.52 | valdyn | crypt_ex: that's probably a good way to shut up the error messages, but not to remove the error |
| 10:59.58 | crypt_ex | Valdyn very odd. Gnea will bbias with my report. |
| 11:00.03 | Gnea | !tell sjaakz0r about xorg sarge |
| 11:01.18 | jomo39292 | how do i get KDE environment in X? |
| 11:01.26 | valdyn | jomo39292: install it |
| 11:01.27 | jomo39292 | i'm currently running GNOME |
| 11:01.32 | gnufa1 | Gnea: but that doesn't discuss the wisdom of upgrading to xorg when everything is packaged for xfree86... why not just go Etch.... I thought that was all packaged nicely now? |
| 11:01.44 | jomo39292 | install via? synaptic? |
| 11:01.45 | celeborn | Gnea: Can I just do apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686? |
| 11:01.53 | valdyn | gnufa1: what is 'packaged for xfree86' ? |
| 11:01.58 | ma3x | fsck 1.39-WIP (31-Dec-2005) |
| 11:01.59 | ma3x | fsck: fsck.ntfs: not found |
| 11:01.59 | ma3x | fsck: Error 2 while executing fsck.ntfs for /dev/hda5 |
| 11:02.07 | xchg | jomo39292: apt-get install kdevelop3 |
| 11:02.08 | ma3x | why is it not found? I have installed ntfsprogs |
| 11:02.12 | valdyn | ma3x: so install it |
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| 11:02.32 | valdyn | !find fsck.ntfs |
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| 11:02.44 | dpkg | Debian Package/File/Desc Search of 'fsck.ntfs' returned no results. |
| 11:02.50 | ma3x | you see? |
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| 11:02.58 | valdyn | fsck.ntfs does not exist |
| 11:03.07 | ma3x | yeah so it's bullshit |
| 11:03.08 | gnufa1 | valdyn: all of sarge was built and tested with xfree86... why would one want to go xorg with that... when the few issues arising are fixed already in later Debian |
| 11:03.08 | xchg | and it can't exist |
| 11:03.10 | sjaakz0r | so xorg needs the core system right? to run? |
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| 11:03.15 | xchg | since proprietary nature of ntfs |
| 11:03.21 | Gnea | ma3x: there is no actual 'fsck.ntfs' and it wouldn't work right anyway |
| 11:03.35 | ma3x | so how the hell you check ntfs drive for errors? |
| 11:03.38 | ma3x | you can't right? |
| 11:03.40 | Gnea | sjaakz0r: yeah |
| 11:03.48 | ootput | ma3x: a windows rescue cd? |
| 11:03.50 | Gnea | ma3x: boot winxp |
| 11:03.56 | jomo39292 | when i type apt-get install kdevelop3 |
| 11:03.57 | valdyn | gnufa1: that's true, but that doesnt mean that anything was 'packaged for xfree' |
| 11:03.58 | jomo39292 | i get this error |
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| 11:04.15 | jomo39292 | E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable) |
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| 11:04.16 | jomo39292 | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 11:04.16 | sjaakz0r | shpcp , hw_random and a few more can't be loaded errors during startup....is that normal? <-- |
| 11:05.05 | Gnea | goddamnit, I put "options nvidia NVreg_Mobile=1" in /etc/modules.conf and it gets ignored |
| 11:05.27 | valdyn | Gnea: /etc/modprobe.d/ is the right place |
| 11:05.30 | gnufa1 | Besides Sarge is getting a little long in the tooth as a desktop. I mean KDE on Sarge is fine for my work desktop, but when I want to play and make pretty graphics, I want later inkscape, and stuff like that. |
| 11:05.42 | valdyn | Gnea: and /etc/modules.conf is not meant to be edited manually |
| 11:05.43 | Gnea | valdyn: actually i put it in /etc/modutils/nvidia_stuff and ran update-modules |
| 11:05.54 | celeborn | Gnea: would apt-get install linux-image-2.6.15-1-686 work instead? I'm having trouble downloading the file |
| 11:05.55 | Gnea | valdyn: so i never editted /etc/modules.conf manually |
| 11:06.05 | Gnea | celeborn: try it |
| 11:06.06 | valdyn | Gnea: put it in /etc/modprobe.d/ and dont run anything else.. |
| 11:06.12 | Gnea | valdyn: ok |
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| 11:06.23 | j1p | I recently installed Debian, upgraded to the 2.6.12 kernel, and installed the synaptic touchpad drivers and kde. When I start the system up, the touchpad works, but when I start some programs(kopete, mozilla) the touchpad stops working completely. Does anyone know why this is happening/how to fix it? |
| 11:06.26 | spiekey | hello #debian! |
| 11:06.28 | ootput | i don't know too many debian users who design (graphics + audio) on sarge |
| 11:06.36 | valdyn | Gnea: 'strace -eopen modprobe foo' will show which config file are read anyway |
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| 11:06.54 | spiekey | i have a debian sarge 64Bit installation. Can i simply boot a 32bit kernel and reboot my box? |
| 11:06.58 | crypt_ex | okay, the error was: APIC error on CPU:0 40(40) |
| 11:06.59 | Gnea | valdyn: rebooting |
| 11:07.08 | valdyn | Gnea: no need |
| 11:07.15 | Gnea | crypt_ex: that's not a problem. |
| 11:07.21 | ootput | forking? |
| 11:07.22 | valdyn | spiekey: no |
| 11:07.25 | crypt_ex | Gnea, but it dont load up though |
| 11:07.27 | Gnea | crypt_ex: the 686 will give you Illegal Instruction and hardlock. |
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| 11:07.34 | spiekey | valdyn: due to the libs? |
| 11:07.43 | crypt_ex | Gnea, hmmm, whats the solution then? |
| 11:07.43 | Gnea | crypt_ex: it's not stuck on something else, like the MTA? |
| 11:07.46 | valdyn | spiekey: yes |
| 11:07.51 | jomo39292 | i'm trying to install KDE environment |
| 11:07.57 | celeborn | Gnea: it gives another depend error "initramfs-tools" "linux-initramfs-tool" then "udev: depends: hotplug" |
| 11:08.03 | Gnea | crypt_ex: i guess just install the 386 |
| 11:08.06 | crypt_ex | Gnea, I have exim sort of disabled |
| 11:08.23 | Gnea | crypt_ex: "sort of"? |
| 11:08.27 | crypt_ex | Gnea, okay. thanks for the help.... all very strange |
| 11:08.29 | jomo39292 | using synaptic i downloaded kdevelop3 |
| 11:08.34 | gnufa1 | jomo39292: did you try "apt-get install kde" ? |
| 11:08.39 | KerPlunk | !tell jomo39292 about install kde |
| 11:08.40 | valdyn | spiekey: to be precise, due to the kernel ABI, your 64-bit binaries will have a hard time calling 64-bit system calls on a 32 bit kernel |
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| 11:09.00 | jaguar- | quick, I forgot how to resume failed package installs |
| 11:09.07 | spiekey | valdyn: cant i install 32bit libs, install the 32bit kernel, and then reboot? |
| 11:09.07 | crypt_ex | Gnea, When I first installed Debian, I didnt want a MTA, so someone suggested in here to use this local package thing instead which replaces exim |
| 11:09.18 | sjaakz0r | what's the commando to install x and xfree86 |
| 11:09.23 | valdyn | spiekey: that is not supported by debian |
| 11:09.24 | jaguar- | (I used aptitude, it dl'ed some packages but then it found I had another aptitude running with the resources locked) |
| 11:09.28 | gnufa1 | jomo39292: you should be able to install "kde" package that way as well. |
| 11:09.34 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: apt-get install x-window-system xserver-xfree86 |
| 11:09.34 | Gnea | crypt_ex: having an MTA for local mail (just on the system) is fine, what's wrong with that? |
| 11:09.36 | spiekey | valdyn: :( okay |
| 11:09.37 | jaguar- | what's the dpkg (or something) option to finish this |
| 11:09.37 | gnufa1 | jomo39292: i.e. with synaptic |
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| 11:10.07 | KerPlunk | jaguar-: Just install it again. |
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| 11:10.09 | sjaakz0r | shpcp , hw_random and a few more can't be loaded errors during startup....is that normal? <-- |
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| 11:10.11 | crypt_ex | crypt_ex, Well I dont need a local mail transfer agent....all my email is done on my other server which I can happily access via POP3 |
| 11:10.14 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 11:10.21 | crypt_ex | Gnea, this is just a desktop Linux box |
| 11:10.47 | Gnea | valdyn: oh sweet, thanks! |
| 11:10.49 | DevilChaos | im having little trouble understanding what this means for static route to be put in /ect/network/interfaces "up route add -net ...."? |
| 11:10.58 | elvirolo | i'm using debian sid and kopete freezes when i launch it ... is there a log/debug file I could have a look at to find out what's wrong ? |
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| 11:11.10 | jaguar- | kerplunk.. okay.. doing that now |
| 11:11.10 | azeem | DevilChaos: did you read the manpage? |
| 11:11.12 | KerPlunk | !tell elvirolo about sid |
| 11:11.17 | KerPlunk | !tell elvirolo about bts |
| 11:11.21 | jaguar- | but there was a command to continue it |
| 11:11.23 | DevilChaos | for? |
| 11:11.24 | valdyn | DevilChaos: read the FAQ |
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| 11:11.34 | DevilChaos | oh |
| 11:11.37 | azeem | DevilChaos: man interfaces, or the FAQ |
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| 11:11.42 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:11.43 | gnufa1 | crypt_ex: in the Exim and Postfix configs you can get a "local desktop" type setting where it just forwards email to the mail server. How does the package you use compare are sending system messages onto your email server? |
| 11:11.46 | Heroin | can some one help me set up virtualname hosting in apache? |
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| 11:11.53 | DevilChaos | ok going to debian site now sorry |
| 11:11.56 | Gnea | !tell DevilChaos about interfaces |
| 11:12.00 | elvirolo | KerPlunk: i know all that, it's just that i don't know what log file to send with my bug report |
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| 11:12.18 | j1p | Can anyone help me with my touchpad mouse problems, it stops working when I start some applications |
| 11:12.20 | jaguar- | okay.. got them in |
| 11:12.22 | KerPlunk | elvirolo: Then you shouldn't be using sid.. sid is for _developers_ |
| 11:12.30 | gnufa1 | Heroin: tell us the problem, as it is pretty well documented elsewhere. |
| 11:12.30 | jaguar- | I had removed some libraries and was re-installing, kerplunk :) |
| 11:12.37 | jaguar- | in the meantime the system was down for all users! |
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| 11:12.46 | Gnea | KerPlunk: back down. |
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| 11:12.54 | Heroin | gnu could u link me to the place where it is well documented? |
| 11:13.02 | Heroin | the apachesite confuses me |
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| 11:13.15 | gnufa1 | Heroin: Apache 1 or Apache 2? |
| 11:13.22 | Heroin | 2 |
| 11:13.49 | bluenail_ | I set up my printer using gnome printer wizard thingy, it prints the test page fine, but printing in application (firefox) does not work anyone know what to do, or what all the gnome wizard does (should have done it manualy) |
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| 11:14.28 | Gnea | KerPlunk: your comments do not help debian. |
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| 11:14.47 | DevilChaos | bbl thx |
| 11:14.54 | celeborn | Gnea: Should I just re-install =\ |
| 11:14.56 | Gnea | KerPlunk: i am not a developer and I run sid, on several machines. you gonna tell me i should go back to sarge? |
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| 11:15.10 | KerPlunk | Gnea: no but you didn't ask where to find a log file. |
| 11:15.16 | gnufa1 | Heroin: I wrote a webdav article that has an explanation of a simple virtual host in passing http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/285 |
| 11:15.21 | crypt_ex | Gnea, just got k7 to work, went into BIOS and changed the Interupt mode from APIC to PIC and worked fine. |
| 11:15.40 | gnufa1 | Heroin: also links to the a2ensite and related tools articles on the same site. |
| 11:16.05 | jomo39292 | what do i do after it finish installing KDE? |
| 11:16.12 | sjaakz0r | what's the commando to redo the setup of x ? |
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| 11:16.21 | Gnea | KerPlunk: oh, so just by asking a question means that we should treat-like-shit anyone attempting to help work with the system in order to fix the real problems? |
| 11:16.28 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-whatyouuse, ie dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 11:16.38 | jomo39292 | how do i make KDE my X environment? |
| 11:16.48 | Gnea | KerPlunk: you don't even know what sort of problem that user had |
| 11:16.49 | jomo39292 | desktop environment? |
| 11:16.55 | Heroin | gnu it looks good |
| 11:16.56 | gnufa1 | sjaakz0r: these are all in the Debian reference I believe.... clearly something missing from your life ;) |
| 11:16.58 | Heroin | thanks you man |
| 11:17.13 | Gnea | crypt_ex: oh cool |
| 11:17.24 | liable | is there a windows scp/sftp client that isnt a dos window?? |
| 11:17.28 | Gnea | crypt_ex: can you mount cds? |
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| 11:17.42 | Gnea | liable: winscp |
| 11:17.48 | Guerin | winscp is good |
| 11:17.51 | Guerin | if complicated |
| 11:17.54 | liable | Gnea: thanks |
| 11:17.55 | Gnea | heh |
| 11:17.55 | bluenail_ | anyone know what command firefox uses to print? |
| 11:17.58 | Gnea | np |
| 11:18.01 | liable | complicated? |
| 11:18.01 | crypt_ex | Gnea, hehe getting there, just looking into what PIC and APIC is....sounds like I am missing out on some advanced treatment though :s |
| 11:18.13 | sjaakz0r | yeah gnufa1 :P |
| 11:18.15 | gnufa1 | jomo39292: most of the desktop managers remember your last login type "Gnome"/"KDE" etc, so log out, and try selecting "KDE" on the login screen |
| 11:18.29 | liable | dont want that! this is for my retarded rellies.. |
| 11:18.35 | Gnea | crypt_ex: there's another way of enabling that too: at the kernel boot line, add 'lapic' to the kernel command line :) |
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| 11:19.03 | crypt_ex | lapic.... hmm. |
| 11:19.13 | Gnea | liable: forget what Guerin said, he always makes things look more complicated than they are/need to be |
| 11:19.23 | gnufa1 | bluenail_: look in the "properties" dialog next to the printer name on "Print" |
| 11:19.28 | crypt_ex | Gnea, just popped in a music cd and it looks like its working. |
| 11:19.31 | crypt_ex | :) |
| 11:19.38 | Gnea | crypt_ex: cool, what about a data cd? |
| 11:19.50 | crypt_ex | Gnea, well no sound yet.... letme try an mp3 on here. |
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| 11:20.19 | j1p | I recently installed Debian, upgraded to the 2.6.12 kernel, and installed the synaptic touchpad drivers and kde. When I start the system up, the touchpad works, but when I start some programs(kopete, mozilla) the touchpad stops working completely. Does anyone know why this is happening/how to fix it? |
| 11:20.48 | bluenail_ | gnufal ok which dialog is this, firefox does not bring up a dialog when the print command is given, in gnome printers I have looked in properties, what am I looking for? |
| 11:21.05 | crypt_ex | Gnea, data cd works fine. |
| 11:21.10 | Gnea | crypt_ex: awesome |
| 11:21.25 | gnufa1 | bluenail_: on my system, Ctrl-P in Firefox fires up a print dialog |
| 11:21.41 | crypt_ex | mp3 sound works, but not this music cd.... |
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| 11:21.54 | Gnea | bluenail_: ctrl-p is in the file menu |
| 11:22.18 | Gnea | crypt_ex: that's a different mixer setting - is there an audio cable connected to it? |
| 11:22.22 | bluenail_ | gnufal wish mine did too, I get no dialog |
| 11:22.30 | sjaakz0r | what does ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 8 10 11 12 14 15) *0, disabled mean? |
| 11:22.44 | gnufa1 | j1p: I think your going to have to ask Google nicely. |
| 11:22.47 | crypt_ex | Gnea, this cd player that pops up, it plays the music, but no sound is coming out. Cant even find a volume switch in it. |
| 11:22.52 | bluenail_ | gnufal tried ctrl-p file, pring and even the print button on print preivew, seems this is a firefox problem |
| 11:22.55 | Gnea | sjaakz0r: it means ACPI is handling IRQ assignments |
| 11:23.01 | crypt_ex | Gnea, ahhhhh, probably not! :) |
| 11:23.16 | crypt_ex | will quickly check. |
| 11:23.21 | Gnea | crypt_ex: try the software audio mixer - alsamixer or aumix |
| 11:23.29 | bluenail_ | gnufal firefox 1.0.7 for the record |
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| 11:23.34 | sjaakz0r | but gnea I'm following the installer to install ivtv...and it says I should get no return on: dmesg | grep -i irq | grep -i disabl |
| 11:23.40 | Gnea | bluenail_: 1.5 is the latest |
| 11:23.48 | gnufa1 | bluenail_: 1.5 here.... hemm bad gnufa1 |
| 11:23.55 | bluenail_ | Gnea yeah, wonder why etch installed 1.0.7??? |
| 11:24.12 | Gnea | bluenail_: different packagename? firefox instead of mozilla-firefox? |
| 11:24.24 | jetscreamer | crypt_ex: use a mixer to unmute and turn the volume up |
| 11:24.51 | crypt_ex | Gnea, brilliant, put the music cd in the other drive and it worked. Obviously as you stated, the other drive didnt have the cable connected to it. |
| 11:24.52 | Gnea | sjaakz0r: maybe that needsd to change - try pci=routeirq in the kernel boot command line |
| 11:24.58 | j1p | gnufa1: I've been googling it, the only responses I've found are that if you have the driver installed it should work |
| 11:25.05 | crypt_ex | jetscreamer, all resolved now :D |
| 11:25.08 | bluenail_ | Gnea nope did mozilla-firefox |
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| 11:25.23 | Gnea | bluenail_: maybe 1.5 isn't in etch |
| 11:25.35 | gnufa1 | bluenail_: I'm using sarge, not etch |
| 11:25.44 | crypt_ex | thanks a lot guys, especially Gnea .....right where was I, ah burning a cd a for mother. |
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| 11:25.55 | jomo39292 | jetscreamer, just letting u know i resolve the resolution issue with my video card |
| 11:25.58 | jomo39292 | thanks |
| 11:26.03 | Gnea | crypt_ex: heh, you'll need to set the drive up for that :) |
| 11:26.06 | bluenail_ | odd you'd think etch would have the more up-to-date packages... |
| 11:26.10 | jomo39292 | now i'm testing out KDE environment |
| 11:26.14 | jetscreamer | what was it |
| 11:26.20 | Gnea | bluenail_: no, it's testing, not unstable |
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| 11:26.34 | Gnea | bluenail_: it's on-course toward frozen for another stable release in several months |
| 11:26.37 | crypt_ex | Gnea, nope...that copy I did earlier.... it works now. k3m was already setup! Brilliant! |
| 11:26.47 | sjaakz0r | doesn't work Gnea |
| 11:26.49 | Gnea | crypt_ex: oh ok, cool |
| 11:27.00 | bluenail_ | ah, my information must have been slightly old when I installed (oops) |
| 11:27.05 | Gnea | sjaakz0r: not sure then, never did ivtv |
| 11:27.10 | bluenail_ | or maby I can't read |
| 11:27.18 | sjaakz0r | I need stew here :P |
| 11:27.20 | Gnea | !ivtv |
| 11:27.20 | dpkg | from memory, ivtv is similar to bttv but the card has a mpeg-2 chip on it....Hauppage pvr-150/250/350/500s etc... latest drivers are at http://www.ivtv.tv ...ivtv.sourceforge.net is not the solution to use for these cards as of yet |
| 11:27.30 | gnufa1 | bluenail_: Oops I meant sid... damn |
| 11:27.38 | Gnea | sjaakz0r: why not just search google? |
| 11:27.51 | gnufa1 | I better go take a break maybe if I'm muddling SID and SARGE.... ho hum... |
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| 11:28.31 | bluenail_ | gnufal ah, now that works |
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| 11:30.26 | bluenail_ | grr i might just upgrade my whole system |
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| 11:31.11 | spiekey | how can i change the language from german to english in a already installed system? |
| 11:31.22 | jomo39292 | oh i like KDE desktop environment! |
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| 11:31.36 | sjaakz0r | Gnea does it indicate an irq problem |
| 11:31.36 | bizkit | spiekey: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 11:31.45 | PgL|TinKioT | bonjour a tous |
| 11:31.51 | sjaakz0r | because I reinstalled linux...I installed it late last night and I didn't get this problem |
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| 11:31.59 | PgL|TinKioT | y a til des francais susceptible de pouvoir m'aider plz |
| 11:32.04 | bizkit | !fr |
| 11:32.05 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 11:32.09 | spiekey | bizkit: thanks |
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| 11:33.27 | spiekey | bizkit: and then reboot? |
| 11:33.43 | sjaakz0r | gnea does it mean I have an irq conflicht? |
| 11:33.50 | kernelfx | hello AT ALLLLLL!!!!!! users debian |
| 11:33.52 | jeph | hi all. What does the patch-2.6.0.bz2 file in the kernel source tree patch? I mean, there already is a linux-2.6.0.tar.bz2 file, surely it cant patch that... |
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| 11:34.36 | crypt_ex | Gnea, you around? |
| 11:34.37 | liable | winscp looks fine. thanks. (if they cant work it out then they dont deserve access :) ) |
| 11:34.41 | bizkit | spiekey: just logout and login again, but if you're in X, don't forget to logout on your local shell and restart X again. also be sure that you don't have a personal override for the locales in e.g. ~/.bashrc, ~/.bash_profile, ~/.profile or sth. |
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| 11:35.30 | spiekey | bizkit: ah, okay. thanks |
| 11:35.56 | bizkit | liable: coreftp.com client is also good for sftp :) |
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| 11:37.07 | sjaakz0r | how can I quit x on startupo |
| 11:37.14 | crypt_ex | earlier on Gnea stated "at the kernel boot line, add 'lapic' to the kernel command line", how do I do this? |
| 11:37.20 | BeAsT[RU] | Pleas help me |
| 11:37.26 | sjaakz0r | it gets automatically to x...and then I can't get to the command line anymore..since I can't shut x down |
| 11:37.30 | crypt_ex | that in grub? |
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| 11:37.54 | BeAsT[RU] | i'm use debian for amd64, where i can find VMWARE for 64 bits |
| 11:37.56 | BeAsT[RU] | ? |
| 11:38.12 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: take out xdm, gdm or any login manager from /etc/rc2.d |
| 11:38.19 | initech | BeAsT[RU]: if it isn't on vmware' |
| 11:38.26 | initech | s website, it doesn't exist |
| 11:38.28 | sjaakz0r | ok but how can I leave it now? when I'mm allready in x |
| 11:38.40 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: ctrl+alt+backspace |
| 11:38.51 | initech | sjaakz0r: ctrl-alt-F1 |
| 11:39.16 | sjaakz0r | bizkit there's nothing in /etc/tc2.d |
| 11:39.28 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: rc2.d |
| 11:39.39 | sjaakz0r | yeah bizkit that's what I meant |
| 11:39.39 | sjaakz0r | :P |
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| 11:40.01 | POVaddct | sjaakz0r: want to shutdown? ctrl-alt-f1, log in as root, then type in init 0 |
| 11:40.04 | sjaakz0r | there's nothing in there |
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| 11:40.15 | BeAsT[RU] | initech, yes on vmware.com no have 64 bit version... |
| 11:40.27 | spiekey | when i log in form linux to my 2nd linux box with ssh, then i only get a 80 column console, thats pretty annoying. any idea why? |
| 11:40.33 | raf256 | how can I downgrade freaking KDE? |
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| 11:41.19 | raf256 | dont debian devels test at all the packages? upgrading unstable kdelibs is rendering entire KDE useless |
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| 11:41.23 | crypt_ex | How can I call lapic when loading up Linux? |
| 11:41.24 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: if you don't know what you're talking about i don't think you switched your default runlevel. rc2 is the default one, so cd /etc/rc2.d && ls -l should give you the symlinks in there, look for gdm, xdm, kdm.. |
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| 11:42.04 | BeAsT[RU] | initech, where i can find? |
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| 11:42.27 | initech | BeAsT[RU]: it doesn't exist; or ask VMware |
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| 11:42.54 | BeAsT[RU] | initech, ok, thx |
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| 11:43.28 | raf256 | !smite debian devel of KDE |
| 11:43.34 | larard | Can anyone point me in the right direction for what to do/ how to debug a kernel panic? I've started having them every few days recently. |
| 11:43.48 | sjaakz0r | should I just delete xdm bizkit ? |
| 11:44.07 | crypt_ex | larard, just came out of know where? |
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| 11:44.36 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: you could just remove the symlink in rc2.d, better way would be using update-rc.d, see man update-rc.d |
| 11:44.54 | PgL|TinKioT | non |
| 11:44.56 | larard | Yeah. I used to have 90 days uptime. After a power failure it moved to a more recent kernel .14 I think and since then I've tried .15 and it just paniced. |
| 11:45.26 | larard | crypt_ex: Sorry, I wasn't clear, both 14 and .15 have paniced in the last week or so. |
| 11:45.27 | liable | bizkit: oh, cheers, will try it if they cant work out winscp. :) |
| 11:45.39 | bizkit | larard: 'it moved'? you installed them |
| 11:45.58 | larard | Yeah. I had installed them, and just waited for a reboot to roll around. |
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| 11:46.00 | crypt_ex | larard, strange, any other strange errors, whats the full error? |
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| 11:46.26 | larard | Aha that is my question. Where can I get the text of the kernel panic after the reboot. |
| 11:46.48 | jomo39292 | in KDE enivornment how do i access my network? |
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| 11:47.44 | jomo39292 | it was easier in GNOME enivornent. the network icon was with drive A: C: CDROM |
| 11:47.56 | larard | crypt_ex: first time it happened I took a photo of the screen, but I couldn't page back up to get the relevant bit. (or what I assumed was the relavant part. |
| 11:47.57 | crypt_ex | larard, have you tried dmesg? |
| 11:48.07 | jomo39292 | but in KDE i can't seem to find the network icon |
| 11:48.15 | crypt_ex | larard, if they dont show up in there, maybe installed klogd? |
| 11:49.03 | larard | It panics. hence it doesn't allow me to run dmesg. |
| 11:49.21 | larard | crypt_ex: unless there is something I'm not understanding.... |
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| 11:49.57 | crypt_ex | ah |
| 11:50.48 | crypt_ex | larard, not sure....hopefully not disk errors |
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| 11:51.49 | blaaman1 | larard: What about booting a live CD and then take a look at the log files ? Could that help ? |
| 11:51.55 | bizkit | jomo39292: can you ping another host? |
| 11:52.21 | larard | Oh, I can boot it again no problem, filesystems are fine. There is just no info about the crash in syslog. |
| 11:52.34 | jomo39292 | how? |
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| 11:53.14 | bizkit | larard: klogd should log the oops messages, read Documentation/oops-tracing.txt from within your kernel source tree. boot your kernel with noacpi noapm noapic mem=NNNM and have fun resolving your problem. tried memtest86+? |
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| 11:53.24 | lanius | how do i switch the default gcc version |
| 11:53.26 | larard | I've never had a recurant kernel panic before, so I've never had to see if I can find out what is going wrong. |
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| 11:53.43 | larard | bizkit: That is the kind of info I'm looking for! Thanks. |
| 11:53.58 | sjaakz0r | I get the following error during startup acpi-0165 error no object was returned ...when I check syslog...what can I do about it? |
| 11:54.17 | larard | bizkit: I've not run memtest recently. I'll run it again tonight. |
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| 11:55.44 | sjaakz0r | *** Error: No object was returned from [\_SB_.PCI0.PX40.UAR2._STA] <-- that's the exxact error |
| 11:56.20 | bizkit | lanius: use CC=/usr/bin/gcc-version make or sth. |
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| 11:57.00 | timmeh | hey can anyone tel me how to find out which compiler/version was used to compile a kernel |
| 11:57.09 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: i think this is really hardware dependand, so no general answer would help you. have you tried booting with noacpi? |
| 11:57.15 | POVaddct | timmeh: cat /proc/version |
| 11:57.24 | timmeh | thankyou |
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| 11:57.41 | sjaakz0r | no but the weird thing is..it didn't give me this problem with kernel 2.4 |
| 11:57.43 | sjaakz0r | yesterday |
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| 11:57.55 | larard | bizkit: Looks like I have to write down the oops message by hand.... ugh. |
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| 11:59.21 | bizkit | larard: i would compile the last stable vanilla with just the things i need and try tracing problems back with this one, distro-kernels are always bloated |
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| 12:01.21 | sjaakz0r | won't it give me bigger problems to shut acpi down bizkit ? |
| 12:02.09 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: if your acpi works fine, just ignore the error.. if you have some problems try disabling acpi |
| 12:02.21 | DevilChaos | i have a new problem when i go apt-get update i get this error msg E: tried to dequeue a fetching object update availible list script error exit status 1 |
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| 12:02.40 | DevilChaos | laptop updating woody |
| 12:02.42 | sjaakz0r | well I get that irq error |
| 12:02.45 | sjaakz0r | bizkit |
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| 12:03.52 | DevilChaos | been to google and debian site for this already |
| 12:03.55 | Zvpun | where can I get help about: cdrecord: Input/output error. read buffer: scsi sendcmd: cmd timeout after 6.001 (40) s |
| 12:03.58 | Zvpun | CDB: 3C 00 00 00 00 00 00 50 00 00 |
| 12:04.01 | Zvpun | cmd finished after 6.001s timeout 40s |
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| 12:04.14 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: disable acpi and pnp os in your bios and try again. if it's just a message in dmesg but everything works fine, just ignore it |
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| 12:04.33 | DevilChaos | Zvpun: is it a sony cd you are trying to copy? |
| 12:04.51 | Zvpun | DevilChaos: It is a LG drive connected via usb |
| 12:04.56 | bizkit | Zvpun: do you have scsi generic support and is your device ready? the right driver? |
| 12:05.08 | DevilChaos | ah sorry more in depth prob |
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| 12:05.29 | sjaakz0r | well bizkit not everything works fine because when I type dmesg | grep -i irq | grep -i disabl I get an error ....so thta could be related right? |
| 12:05.38 | smesjz | is there any chance that we will see a thread-safe php5 package soon? So I can keep using the mpm-worker? |
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| 12:06.44 | Zvpun | bizkit: cdrecord -scanbus can see the device. Where do I select a driver? |
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| 12:07.56 | bizkit | Zvpun: man cdrecord and /driver= |
| 12:07.57 | sjaakz0r | hmm I can't find acpi and pnp os in bios bizkit |
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| 12:08.33 | sjaakz0r | ah pnp os found |
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| 12:08.56 | xchg | damn, there's definitely is a problem in gtkmm-dev :// |
| 12:09.06 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: is your board acpi enabled? if not boot with noacpi and use apm instead.. dunno, just try some options |
| 12:09.23 | sjaakz0r | in what file should I disable acpi? |
| 12:10.20 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: disable it from starting with you computer you mean? |
| 12:10.26 | sjaakz0r | yeah |
| 12:10.35 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: in lilo.conf if you use lilo, for grub it's the menu.lst, both have their own manpages. it's just an boot-time option for the kernel, you could just reboot and type linux noacpi on boot prompt |
| 12:10.38 | sjaakz0r | I just don't want this Irq conflict :P |
| 12:10.43 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: update-rc.d -f acpid remove |
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| 12:11.25 | BeAsT[RU] | Somebody using VMware for Debian 64 bit |
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| 12:11.28 | BeAsT[RU] | ? |
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| 12:11.39 | KerPlunk | !tell BeAsT[RU] about anyone |
| 12:11.41 | bizkit | KerPlunk: this won't disable the acpi support from within the kernel |
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| 12:12.14 | sjaakz0r | how then bizkit ? |
| 12:12.22 | sjaakz0r | I'll go to grub |
| 12:12.23 | sjaakz0r | menu.lst |
| 12:12.25 | sjaakz0r | :P |
| 12:12.30 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: i told you above |
| 12:13.22 | DevilChaos | E: Archive directory /var/cache/apt/archives/partial missing can i just add this directory into the archive directory? |
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| 12:13.33 | KerPlunk | DevilChaos: yes |
| 12:13.59 | KerPlunk | DevilChaos: mkdir /var/cache/apt/archives/partial |
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| 12:15.07 | DevilChaos | bbl thx |
| 12:16.11 | BeAsT[RU] | KerPlunk, where i can find Vmware for 64 bit system (.deb)? |
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| 12:16.37 | flogiston_ | i cant access my new installed debian server with ssh from ubuntu |
| 12:16.40 | flogiston_ | http://www.experts-exchange.com/Networking/Linux_Networking/Q_21422843.html |
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| 12:16.55 | flogiston_ | Thats the same message as i get. |
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| 12:17.29 | Coweater | flogiston_: fix your ~/.ssh/known_hosts |
| 12:17.38 | sjaakz0r | what is the line to add bizkit to disable acpi in menu.lst? |
| 12:17.49 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 12:18.07 | Coweater | flogiston_: delete line 2 and next time you connect it'll ask you to verify the key |
| 12:18.16 | flogiston_ | ahaa |
| 12:18.18 | flogiston_ | ill try that |
| 12:18.19 | Mazingaro | please I've got a problem with G400 + Debian 3.1 + i2c-matroxfb = corrupted console screen :( |
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| 12:19.07 | crypt_ex | How can I make numlock enabled by default? |
| 12:19.23 | gtkspert | has anyone used kegel.com's cross-tool |
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| 12:20.02 | Hool | hello people :) |
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| 12:20.14 | flogiston_ | thanks that helped |
| 12:20.20 | Mazingaro | please I've got a problem with G400 + Debian 3.1 + i2c-matroxfb = corrupted console screen :( |
| 12:20.22 | Hool | gah.. i really hate to downgrade myself to IRC over windows/KVirc :( |
| 12:21.00 | crypt_ex | Hool, KVirc, is that one of the those all in one apps or something? |
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| 12:21.18 | pharm | Mazingaro: have you instamlled the matroxfb modules as well? |
| 12:21.38 | Hool | where do you begin to look for a propblem if you get "/etc/X11/X is not executable" when you type startx? |
| 12:21.56 | KerPlunk | Hool: chmod +x /etc/X11/X |
| 12:22.01 | pharm | Hool: trace the symlinks /etc/X11/X should be a symlink to the X executable |
| 12:22.16 | Hool | crypt_ex: naah.. i have a old version as a "panic backup" but it's full of "MSN sileys" |
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| 12:22.26 | crypt_ex | Hool, lol |
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| 12:23.03 | Mazingaro | phani: yes |
| 12:23.10 | Mazingaro | pharm: yes |
| 12:23.16 | ootput | for those of you using the knoppix livecd, where can i find the .config used for its kernel? |
| 12:23.26 | Hool | yeah i want the oldschool comma and a parantese.. |
| 12:23.34 | Hool | not a yellow blob with dots on it :/ |
| 12:23.35 | Mazingaro | pharm: they're loaded as dependency of i2c-matroxfb |
| 12:23.43 | Mazingaro | pharm: they're loaded as dependencies of i2c-matroxfb |
| 12:23.51 | pharm | Mazingaro: what about fbcon ? |
| 12:23.52 | crypt_ex | Hool, ll /etc/X11/X |
| 12:24.01 | Mazingaro | pharm: what is it? |
| 12:24.02 | pharm | Mazingaro: once will do btw. |
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| 12:24.15 | sjaakz0r | bizkit can you tell me what line to add? |
| 12:24.17 | pharm | Mazingaro: the module that ties the console to the framebuffer |
| 12:24.29 | Mazingaro | pharm: wait, I'm going to check |
| 12:24.32 | Hool | pharm: how do you trace symlinks? |
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| 12:24.48 | Mazingaro | pharm: no way, it isn't |
| 12:24.56 | Mazingaro | pharm: no way, it isn't there :( |
| 12:25.21 | Hool | debian is so stable you forget things between problems =) |
| 12:25.22 | crypt_ex | Hool, what does ll /etc/X11/X report? |
| 12:25.26 | Mazingaro | pharm: thanks it works!!!!!!!!!!!1 |
| 12:25.27 | Mazingaro | pharm: thanks it works!!!!!!!!!!! |
| 12:25.35 | Mazingaro | pharm: great! Tx you a lot |
| 12:25.41 | Mazingaro | pharm: modprobe fbcon :) |
| 12:25.58 | Mazingaro | pharm: shall I load it before i2c-matroxfb???? |
| 12:26.16 | Hool | crypt_ex: are those "L" or "i" ? |
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| 12:26.53 | crypt_ex | Hool, ls -al /etc/X11/X |
| 12:27.05 | crypt_ex | L's they are |
| 12:27.09 | Mazingaro | pharm: ??? |
| 12:27.16 | Mazingaro | ok |
| 12:27.16 | Mazingaro | bye and thanks |
| 12:27.50 | Hool | . /etc/X11/X -> /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
| 12:28.00 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how to edit menu.lst to disable acpi |
| 12:28.23 | Hool | this happened after i had to hardreboot my machine.. i had the mother of all freezeups.. it didn't even respond to ping.. |
| 12:28.29 | Hool | so i guess i broke it :( |
| 12:28.36 | Hool | poor old machine.. |
| 12:28.54 | crypt_ex | Hool, what about the permissions? Also what are the permissions on /usr/bin/X11/XFree86 |
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| 12:28.58 | Hool | i just did a dist upgrade tho |
| 12:29.02 | crypt_ex | ah |
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| 12:29.09 | jetscreamer | add acpi=off to the kernel line i believe |
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| 12:29.17 | jetscreamer | not positive |
| 12:29.44 | flogiston_ | whats the pakage name for xfce? |
| 12:29.53 | flogiston_ | i want an xfce desktop |
| 12:30.26 | paulswm | flogiston_: apt-cache search xfce |
| 12:30.32 | Hool | crypt_ex: ah.. " /usr/bin/X11/XFree86" no such file or directory |
| 12:31.08 | jetscreamer | xfce4 or -4 |
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| 12:31.26 | delysid25 | it is xfce4 |
| 12:31.34 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: You have to add some option to the line in menu.lst where your kernel loads...at the end of the line --noacpi or something like that...but that probably isn't the option...I don't know what the option is. |
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| 12:31.45 | crypt_ex | Hool thats definately the problem. You on SID? |
| 12:31.54 | flogiston_ | thanks |
| 12:32.06 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-1-386 root=/dev/hda2 ro noacpi |
| 12:32.17 | KerPlunk | But again..I don't know what the option is. |
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| 12:32.51 | sjaakz0r | ok so I leave the # before that line? |
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| 12:33.10 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: no..then your system won't boot. |
| 12:33.28 | sjaakz0r | hmm |
| 12:33.35 | sjaakz0r | ok I see what you mean |
| 12:33.45 | sjaakz0r | so should I update anythoing after changing that file in grub? |
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| 12:34.09 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: no need |
| 12:34.16 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: But you need to make sure you have the right option. |
| 12:34.26 | chugga | if i have libqt4 installed i dont need 3, do i? |
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| 12:35.30 | KerPlunk | chugga: If a program that you want to install or run uses libqt3 then yes you need libqt3 |
| 12:35.38 | crypt_ex | Hool, apt-get install xserver-xfree86 |
| 12:35.50 | KerPlunk | chugga: Like I could make a program based on libqt3 and if it's very popular a lot of people would be using libqt3 |
| 12:35.55 | chugga | KerPlunk, im sure qt maintains binary compatibility with upgrades |
| 12:36.15 | chugga | (i remember reading that in their docs...) |
| 12:36.59 | sjaakz0r | ok kerplunk added the line |
| 12:37.11 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: It probably won't work..like I said I don't know the option. |
| 12:37.15 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: What kernel are you using? |
| 12:37.34 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: What is the line in your menu.lst for the kernel you use?(it starts with kernel*0 |
| 12:37.39 | jetscreamer | i told you lthe option i think |
| 12:37.48 | jetscreamer | and where to put it |
| 12:37.50 | sjaakz0r | hang on kerplunk it's just rebooting |
| 12:38.10 | ercin | have anyone trouble with gnome-settings-daemon ? |
| 12:38.19 | KerPlunk | sjaakz0r: it might be right might not...i just guessed. |
| 12:38.20 | ercin | it starts only in nested session |
| 12:38.30 | KerPlunk | "noacpi" as a kernel option seems logical..but they could make it anything. |
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| 12:39.01 | sjaakz0r | it says |
| 12:39.12 | sjaakz0r | local APIC disabled by BIOS -- reenabling |
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| 12:39.29 | jetscreamer | that would be apic not acpi |
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| 12:39.32 | KerPlunk | APIC or ACPI? |
| 12:39.38 | jetscreamer | apic |
| 12:40.05 | sjaakz0r | it still boots acpi |
| 12:40.07 | sjaakz0r | I guess |
| 12:40.21 | KerPlunk | !apic |
| 12:40.21 | dpkg | it has been said that apic is Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller, a new PIC, and about time too... Can be disabled on boot by adding noapic (and nolapic for local apic) to your boot parameters. |
| 12:40.39 | delysid25 | On each ?kernel? line, add ?noapic? to the end as in: kernel ... noapic |
| 12:40.47 | jetscreamer | as i said, try acpi=off |
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| 12:40.52 | POVaddct | or nolapic |
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| 12:41.55 | sjaakz0r | I think it's the hotplug which is giving me the problems? |
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| 12:42.28 | jetscreamer | sjaakz0r: apic != acpi |
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| 12:42.59 | KerPlunk | !apic |
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| 12:42.59 | dpkg | from memory, apic is IO-APIC (I/O Advanced Programmable Interrupt Controller) is an Intel architecture for dealing with interrupts in multi-processor computer systems. It is implemented by the Intel 82093AA chip and found on all Intel SMP CPU boards. |
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| 12:43.17 | Hool | crypt_ex: apt tells me i have the newest version |
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| 12:43.25 | sjaakz0r | yes jetscreamer |
| 12:43.28 | sjaakz0r | http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/syslog |
| 12:44.13 | crypt_ex | !lapic |
| 12:44.19 | sjaakz0r | do you see all the errors with hotplug |
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| 12:44.54 | crypt_ex | Hool, not sure whats happened to your X there then. Its just not in that directory then? |
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| 12:45.37 | Hool | yeah.. feels a bit odd yes.. won't let me run dpkg on it though |
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| 12:46.22 | KerPlunk | I'm bored..what's a good game someone recommends I should apt-get install? |
| 12:46.27 | KerPlunk | (I have X) |
| 12:46.31 | Guerin | KerPlunk: cities.totl.net |
| 12:46.32 | crypt_ex | For some reason the dist upgrade has slipped up on that file |
| 12:46.35 | Guerin | KerPlunk: no install necessary |
| 12:46.44 | Hool | crypt_ex: if dist upgrade changed my kernel.. can it sense that i have the nVIDIA addons? |
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| 12:46.53 | Hool | can it be that stuff that isn't working |
| 12:47.08 | jetscreamer | apparently only \_SB_.PCI0 isn't recognized |
| 12:47.15 | Hool | well.. that's it.. no more nVIDIA in my machines :) |
| 12:47.18 | crypt_ex | Hool, shouldnt matter, its your X which is the current problem. |
| 12:47.29 | Hool | crypt_ex: yeah |
| 12:47.37 | sjaakz0r | yes jetscreamer |
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| 12:47.40 | sjaakz0r | but what can I do about it? |
| 12:47.55 | jetscreamer | sjaakz0r: what exactly is it that isn't working |
| 12:47.56 | Hool | crypt_ex: where is the logfiles located again? |
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| 12:48.06 | jetscreamer | /var/log |
| 12:48.37 | KerPlunk | thanks Guerin |
| 12:48.43 | sjaakz0r | jetscreamer I get all the errors in the pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:\_SB_.PCI0 evaluate _BBN fail=0x5 |
| 12:48.50 | sjaakz0r | did you see thoes?: |
| 12:48.52 | sjaakz0r | those evn |
| 12:49.11 | Guerin | KerPlunk: :) |
| 12:49.19 | Guerin | KerPlunk: watch out for the n0rx |
| 12:49.24 | jetscreamer | sjaakz0r: not the errors... what functionality are you missing, what is the error doing to you other than existing |
| 12:49.33 | sjaakz0r | well |
| 12:49.39 | sjaakz0r | I'm trying to intsall ivtv drivers |
| 12:49.51 | sjaakz0r | using this guide : http://gentoo-wiki.com/HARDWARE_PVR_500_Setup#Getting_and_Installing_IVTV |
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| 12:50.02 | jetscreamer | oh and did you try acpi=off like i said |
| 12:50.13 | sjaakz0r | where should I add that? |
| 12:50.26 | jetscreamer | in menu.lst on the kernel line, like i said |
| 12:50.34 | sjaakz0r | hmm I added noacpi |
| 12:50.38 | jetscreamer | yes i saw that |
| 12:50.41 | sjaakz0r | not acpi=off, will do it now |
| 12:50.54 | jetscreamer | sjaakz0r: i believe that is the one |
| 12:51.02 | jetscreamer | not positive, but pretty sure |
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| 12:51.40 | prem_ | hi all, |
| 12:51.43 | jetscreamer | and what is that btw, your tv card? |
| 12:51.48 | sjaakz0r | yes |
| 12:51.57 | jetscreamer | so did you load the modules for ilt? |
| 12:52.00 | jetscreamer | it |
| 12:52.02 | sjaakz0r | no not yet |
| 12:52.16 | prem_ | trying to update mplayer but getting "GPG error: ftp://ftp.nerim.net sarge Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 07DC563D1F41B907 |
| 12:52.16 | prem_ | " |
| 12:52.27 | jetscreamer | prem_: yeah |
| 12:52.38 | jetscreamer | prem_: topic is an example of how to fix |
| 12:53.13 | Hool | crypt_ex: i have a interesting line "Symbol __glXActiveScreens from module /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/extensions/libdri.a is unresolved!" can that be the bogey? |
| 12:53.33 | jetscreamer | --recv-keys 1F41B907 for Marillat |
| 12:53.35 | prem_ | jetscreamer, i wanted to know how to get mplayer for amd64-etch, on marillat there is no entry for etch amd64 so using sarge, is that a problem? |
| 12:53.44 | Hool | the XFreee86.log ends at the mouse thing |
| 12:53.46 | jetscreamer | prem_: no idea |
| 12:54.05 | jetscreamer | prem_: i know marillat likes the work etch and not testing, or did, if that helps any |
| 12:54.11 | jetscreamer | s/work/word |
| 12:54.27 | prem_ | is there anybody getting the same error on marillat - (well known mplayer - site) |
| 12:54.38 | jetscreamer | i just told you how to fix that error |
| 12:54.56 | jetscreamer | it's a well known error |
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| 12:56.20 | jetscreamer | i'd use the sid and not the sarge mplayer stuff though |
| 12:56.22 | Hool | *sigh* have to surf the web using windows 2k.. i feel so nekkid and unprotected :/ |
| 12:56.35 | jetscreamer | blame the admin, Hool |
| 12:56.49 | Hool | luckily i have my pitbull potato to watch my back :) |
| 12:56.58 | Hool | jetscreamer: can't :( ( Im the admin) |
| 12:57.12 | jetscreamer | !win Hool |
| 12:57.12 | dpkg | Congratulations, Hool! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 12:57.39 | Hool | jetscreamer: firtst thing is to rename the administrator account ;) |
| 12:57.49 | Hool | and i have no mail on this machine |
| 12:57.59 | jetscreamer | try using mmc & group policy |
| 12:58.06 | jetscreamer | oops |
| 12:58.22 | jetscreamer | !lart me |
| 12:58.52 | Hool | crypt_ex: is it a good idea to apt-get femove xserver-xfree86 and reinstall? |
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| 12:59.44 | Hool | jetscreamer: my old trusty siemens C6 is running as firewall/gateway with Debian Potato :) (2.2r1 or something) |
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| 13:00.23 | Hool | problem is that the machine is dying ( got 16 in hdparm hehe) so im not doing anything to it until i get the new server going at the end of the month |
| 13:00.28 | sjaakz0r | jetscreamer no more errors I think now |
| 13:00.29 | sjaakz0r | great |
| 13:01.02 | Hool | had the uptime reset and go on another ~300 days before i fubared the wiring and unscrewed the wrong fuse and cut the power to it :( |
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| 13:01.25 | Hool | too bad i forgot to install the linuxcounter script on it :/ would have been leet.. |
| 13:01.31 | liable | i should be able to generate a key on my server, then take the pub.key and use that to log into the server, yes? |
| 13:01.37 | Hool | ran almost for 4 years straight |
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| 13:02.08 | liable | fucking winscp is giving me headaches.. |
| 13:02.20 | sjaakz0r | it appears there are no more errors jetscreamer... http://home.planet.nl/~verberk/syslog |
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| 13:02.41 | sjaakz0r | oh wait |
| 13:02.43 | sjaakz0r | there still are |
| 13:02.44 | sjaakz0r | :P |
| 13:02.49 | azeem | liable: you need the private key to login, the public key should be in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 13:02.55 | azeem | on the server |
| 13:04.06 | liable | azeem: yeah, i tried making it on the server, then making it on my box then making it with puttygen, and i am failing all. maybe i need to try this when i havent had a few beers.. |
| 13:04.33 | prem_ | jetscreamer, i did a "gpg --recv-keys 07DC563D1F41B907 && gpg --export 07DC563D1F41B907 >marillat.sig" as suggested by ubuntu forums but i get some more errors gpg: keyserver communications error: general error |
| 13:04.33 | prem_ | gpg: keyserver receive failed: general error |
| 13:04.54 | jetscreamer | prem_: as root? |
| 13:05.01 | jetscreamer | well prem |
| 13:05.05 | jetscreamer | this isn't ubuntu |
| 13:05.12 | jetscreamer | i guess it's different? |
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| 13:05.13 | liable | azeem: doesnt matter what box i make the key on, then cat it to authorized_keys, it still fails.. |
| 13:05.20 | droid | im wanting to add users to my system so they only have ftp access, but no shell access at all. easy to do? |
| 13:05.24 | jetscreamer | prem_: did you read the /topic like i said? |
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| 13:05.55 | azeem | liable: where the key is from doesn't matter, I think |
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| 13:06.03 | liable | azeem: it shouldnt matter at all which box i make the key on though? |
| 13:06.08 | liable | azeem: ah.. :) |
| 13:06.08 | azeem | right |
| 13:06.19 | liable | thought so.. |
| 13:06.36 | jetscreamer | gpg --keyserver wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net --recv-keys 1F41B907 ,for Marillat, then apt-key add /root/.gnupg/pubring.gpg |
| 13:06.51 | liable | guess i am having a brain fart.. |
| 13:06.52 | azeem | the private key needs to be local in ~/.ssh/id_dsa, the public one (~/.ssh/id_dsa.pub) remote in ~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 13:07.19 | azeem | maybe the server is configured to not allow public key login, or you typoed authorized_keys :) |
| 13:07.20 | jetscreamer | note that these are different subjects |
| 13:07.28 | liable | azeem: well, i am trying to set this up for winscp for my folks.. |
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| 13:07.40 | liable | azeem: and it doesnt want to play.. |
| 13:07.49 | azeem | liable: I see, maybe winscp doesn't find the private key then? |
| 13:07.54 | prem_ | jetscreamer, done thanks |
| 13:08.13 | jetscreamer | credit goes to #kanotix |
| 13:08.44 | liable | azeem: i convert it (as you have to with puttygen) but it doesnt play. will hit the docs again. |
| 13:09.23 | raf256[laptop] | omg |
| 13:09.33 | raf256[laptop] | do not even think about upgrading KDE in unstable |
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| 13:10.04 | raf256[laptop] | it is horrible broken, and it renders entire KDE unussable at all. more evil then bush and darth vader combined |
| 13:10.04 | Eulex | raf256[laptop], b0rkage? |
| 13:10.07 | liable | raf256[laptop]: sheesh, just use sarge ffs. stop whining about unstable.. |
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| 13:10.33 | jetscreamer | it's BEEN borked iirc |
| 13:10.50 | raf256[laptop] | liable: well, testing is seriously outdated |
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| 13:11.06 | raf256[laptop] | konsole in testing have fucked up keys, which is fixed.. in unstable :| |
| 13:11.07 | liable | OMFG LOLZ!?!? |
| 13:11.10 | raf256[laptop] | *Konsole |
| 13:11.21 | jetscreamer | !info tilda |
| 13:11.27 | dpkg | tilda: (terminal with first person shooter console likeness), section x11, is optional. Version: 0.09.1-2 (sid), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 144 kB |
| 13:11.36 | Hak`M | Is there an option to overwrite existing files with extracting an archive with ar ? I cant really find anything for it in the man page... |
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| 13:11.49 | liable | raf256[laptop]: then deal with it or be quiet. (whinging here wont help you) |
| 13:11.56 | jetscreamer | there is with tar |
| 13:12.10 | raf256[laptop] | liable: I wonder how to deal it |
| 13:12.26 | raf256[laptop] | I filed in bug reports. I hope they will fix it fastly |
| 13:12.50 | liable | raf256[laptop]: yes, give it a couple o days. |
| 13:12.52 | Eulex | raf256[laptop], outdated? testing has a kde that is 1.5 months older than unstable has. |
| 13:13.09 | Hak`M | jetscreamer, but not with ar? Hmmm Im trying to install debian on a dreambox, but it mostly has just busybox on it. And a clean debian system wont allow me to use the net, so I have to dump it over a copy of the original system I think. Hmmm tricky thing. |
| 13:13.09 | raf256[laptop] | the bug reporting system is missing a "horrible terryfing grave" severity level |
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| 13:13.29 | valdyn | !info kdebase testing |
| 13:13.33 | valdyn | !info kdebase unstable |
| 13:13.37 | dpkg | kdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.4.3-3 (etch), Packaged size: 31 kB, Installed size: 48 kB |
| 13:13.40 | dpkg | kdebase: (base components from the official KDE release), section kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.5.0-4 (sid), Packaged size: 33 kB, Installed size: 76 kB |
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| 13:14.12 | raf256[laptop] | and 3.5 fixes totally broken Konsole (special keys do not work) see my bug reports on kde.org |
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| 13:15.33 | takatumi | raf256[laptop]: what exactly is broken in konsole? |
| 13:15.58 | raf256[laptop] | takatumi: home end control+arrows or shift+arrows or insert/delete keys do not work |
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| 13:16.15 | raf256[laptop] | if you set a keymap to use som of the above, the other dont work |
| 13:16.34 | raf256[laptop] | in gnome term it works fine |
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| 13:18.31 | takatumi | raf256[laptop]: just use uxterm or rxvt and be happy. |
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| 13:19.52 | mmars | morning |
| 13:19.58 | Mazingaro | hi |
| 13:20.08 | flogiston_ | where do i set the default wm/de in debian? |
| 13:20.14 | jetscreamer | sjaakz0r: try modprobing the hid stuff |
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| 13:20.27 | flogiston_ | right now im using xdm and its kinda buggy. |
| 13:20.34 | jetscreamer | man update-alternatives flogiston_ |
| 13:20.44 | jetscreamer | but it's dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
| 13:20.44 | sjaakz0r | what do you mean with hid stuff jetscreamer ? |
| 13:20.50 | jetscreamer | hid modules |
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| 13:21.09 | jetscreamer | pciehp: acpi_pciehprm:get_device PCI ROOT HID fail=0x1001 |
| 13:21.14 | jetscreamer | it say hid |
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| 13:21.24 | jetscreamer | might be your usb? |
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| 13:21.50 | sjaakz0r | yeah could be |
| 13:21.56 | sjaakz0r | but it's not a big problem right now |
| 13:21.58 | jetscreamer | human interface device |
| 13:22.02 | flogiston_ | i don't get it... |
| 13:22.08 | sjaakz0r | since I dont have the irq error anymore jetscreamer |
| 13:22.26 | jetscreamer | ok so when you get around to it look there first is what i would do |
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| 13:22.30 | sjaakz0r | jetscreamer do you know how I can write the output of a command to a file? |
| 13:22.38 | cyzie | if my hdd pata specification is 133MBps with 40GB and 2mb cache. how do i know whether my debian using the transfer mode 133Mbps? sorry if i ask this question in wrong term. |
| 13:22.40 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:22.51 | Mazingaro | ls > ciao.txt |
| 13:22.57 | abrotman | jetscreamer: have you been here all night? |
| 13:23.00 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: type dpkg-reconfigure xdm |
| 13:23.05 | jetscreamer | abrotman: yeah i suck |
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| 13:23.18 | abrotman | jetscreamer: go the heck to bed |
| 13:23.21 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: if you don't have another installed, you need to install one |
| 13:23.22 | Mazingaro | cyzie: hdparm -I /dev/hdx |
| 13:23.24 | Eulex | cyzie, hdparm |
| 13:23.27 | nutcase | hi |
| 13:23.29 | flogiston_ | i have installed xfc4 |
| 13:23.31 | jetscreamer | abrotman: time for work soon :) |
| 13:23.34 | Mazingaro | cyzie: where x is either a, b, c, ... |
| 13:23.51 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: that isn't ?dm |
| 13:23.56 | abrotman | jetscreamer: why .. it's saturday .. atleast .. i hope it is |
| 13:23.58 | jetscreamer | ?dm is different |
| 13:24.06 | flogiston_ | its a Desktop enviroment |
| 13:24.08 | Mazingaro | cyzie: ...as root... |
| 13:24.08 | jetscreamer | abrotman: 24/7/365 |
| 13:24.17 | jetscreamer | but not always |
| 13:24.21 | flogiston_ | uses its own dm |
| 13:24.28 | flogiston_ | i think |
| 13:24.33 | Eulex | flogiston_, no, xfce has no dm |
| 13:24.34 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: no it uses it's own wm i think |
| 13:24.39 | jetscreamer | window manager |
| 13:24.46 | abrotman | xfce is a wm |
| 13:24.46 | flogiston_ | yes i ment wm |
| 13:24.50 | Eulex | abrotman, no |
| 13:24.52 | jetscreamer | the display managers are kdm, gdm and xdm |
| 13:24.58 | jetscreamer | xdm is the thing you log on with |
| 13:24.58 | Eulex | abrotman, xfwm4 is a wm |
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| 13:25.02 | flogiston_ | dpkg-reconfigure xfce4 didn't work |
| 13:25.12 | abrotman | Eulex: it has it's own WM .. just like KDE does .. if you install xfce .. you get your own WM |
| 13:25.13 | jetscreamer | no, it wouldn't |
| 13:25.19 | cyzie | Mazingaro, thanks you answer my question. another question for u |
| 13:25.27 | Eulex | abrotman, yes, but xfce is not only a wm |
| 13:25.28 | abrotman | Eulex: as far as the packages go .. i don't think xfwm is separated out |
| 13:25.37 | nutcase | my anjuta crashes at startup with ** Message: Initializing AP class |
| 13:25.37 | nutcase | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:25.37 | nutcase | ), is it a problem in etch in general, or should anjuta run in etch today? |
| 13:25.42 | abrotman | Eulex: i'm well aware that xfce is a "full featured desktop" |
| 13:25.43 | cyzie | Standards: ; Supported: 6 5 4 3 ; Likely used: 6 <== what is this ? |
| 13:25.46 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: what exactly is it that you want to change |
| 13:25.49 | Eulex | abrotman, yes it is. apt-cache policy xfwm4. |
| 13:25.57 | Mazingaro | cyzie: ok |
| 13:26.07 | abrotman | Eulex: shows you how much i use it .. i thought they were still one package .. my apologies |
| 13:26.23 | liable | jeez i am a fucktard.. |
| 13:26.25 | Mazingaro | cyzie: 5 = ATA100, 6 = ATA133 |
| 13:26.30 | flogiston_ | i want to set xfce to start when i run startx |
| 13:26.32 | abrotman | liable: you're from australia ? |
| 13:26.41 | flogiston_ | not xdm thats running now |
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| 13:26.44 | Mazingaro | cyzie: 4 = ATA66, 3 = ATA33 |
| 13:26.44 | Eulex | abrotman, ok |
| 13:26.48 | liable | abrotman: no, i am from philly.. |
| 13:26.50 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: xdm the login screen? |
| 13:26.51 | liable | :P |
| 13:26.53 | Mazingaro | cyzie: and so on |
| 13:26.56 | cyzie | mmm.. alright Mazingaro. is that supported 6 5 4 3 and likely used : 6 is what i shoudl expect? |
| 13:27.00 | cyzie | Mazingaro, thanks a lot :) |
| 13:27.01 | abrotman | liable: that sucks .. at least you get good food |
| 13:27.01 | jetscreamer | where you type your username and password? |
| 13:27.14 | flogiston_ | isn't xdm a window manager. |
| 13:27.17 | jetscreamer | no |
| 13:27.19 | Eulex | flogiston_, you could either use startxfce4 or put startxfce4 in your .xsession. |
| 13:27.22 | jetscreamer | dm |
| 13:27.24 | Mazingaro | cyzie: you're welcom |
| 13:27.35 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: maybe you are seeing twm? |
| 13:27.38 | Mazingaro | cyzie: you're welcome |
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| 13:27.55 | jetscreamer | hashmark background, have to click to see menu? |
| 13:28.05 | jetscreamer | and hold mouse? green? |
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| 13:28.15 | cyzie | is that "standard ; supported 6 5 4 3 and likely used : 6" is what i shoudl expect? |
| 13:28.15 | flogiston_ | when i run startx i end up with a very now resorce wm spotty background thats black/white |
| 13:28.20 | nutcase | has anyone anjuta running in testing? |
| 13:28.23 | liable | i been fucking with putty for like an hour and a half, and using the wrong fucking key gen thing.. :( |
| 13:28.33 | j1p | My laptop's touchpad stops working when random applications are started. It works perfect when the system is on the login screen and while KDE's splash screen is up, but completely breaks when programs such as ksirc kopete or mozilla are started. Any idea why? |
| 13:28.43 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: try apt-get remove twm |
| 13:28.55 | abrotman | liable: duh? |
| 13:29.01 | jetscreamer | or do the .xinitrc thing or .Xsession ... i forget which |
| 13:29.04 | cyzie | Mazingaro, is that "standard ; supported 6 5 4 3 and likely used : 6" is what i shoudl expect? |
| 13:29.05 | liable | abrotman: exactly! |
| 13:29.06 | Eulex | flogiston_, did you read what I said to you? |
| 13:29.14 | jetscreamer | aka what eulex said i think |
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| 13:29.33 | Eulex | jetscreamer, .xsession. see man startx. |
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| 13:29.41 | flogiston_ | ill do it right now |
| 13:29.44 | Mazingaro | cyzie: yes |
| 13:29.57 | flogiston_ | .xsession in ~? |
| 13:30.13 | cyzie | Mazingaro, okay. another question, just now hdparm -I work for pata disk. what about sata disk ? what is the command to check ? |
| 13:30.15 | jetscreamer | startx -e xfce4 might function, not sure. |
| 13:30.18 | Eulex | flogiston_, yes. |
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| 13:30.48 | jetscreamer | startxfce4 |
| 13:30.49 | abrotman | where were you guys last night when keyhack was here darn it |
| 13:30.52 | jetscreamer | just like Eulex said |
| 13:30.52 | flogiston_ | didn't have any .xsession in ~ |
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| 13:30.57 | abrotman | so create it |
| 13:31.01 | Mazingaro | cyzie: have you got SATA HDs??? |
| 13:31.07 | Eulex | jetscreamer, doesn't seem like startx has a command line option named -e |
| 13:31.15 | cyzie | Mazingaro, yea.. :) |
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| 13:31.22 | flogiston_ | but i dont know what to put in the file |
| 13:31.28 | flogiston_ | where can i find a example? |
| 13:31.40 | j1p | just put startxfce4 |
| 13:31.50 | abrotman | echo "startxfce4" >> ~/.xsession |
| 13:31.51 | flogiston_ | no path or anything? |
| 13:32.06 | Mazingaro | cyzie: which devices? sda, sdb, ... ? |
| 13:32.15 | cyzie | sda and sdb |
| 13:32.18 | Eulex | abrotman & j1p, ain't it a script, so you have to make it executable and but #!/bin/sh at the top? |
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| 13:32.31 | abrotman | Eulex: i don't think so |
| 13:32.43 | abrotman | Eulex: mine used to just say /usr/bin/blackbox |
| 13:32.55 | j1p | i know my .xinitrc isn't, i'd assume the same for .xsession |
| 13:33.09 | Eulex | abrotman, hmm, ok. |
| 13:33.11 | flogiston_ | twm just flashes by and x shuts down |
| 13:33.25 | jetscreamer | Eulex: try it |
| 13:33.38 | Mazingaro | cyzie: then you must use scsi tools |
| 13:33.40 | jetscreamer | startx -e icewm functions |
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| 13:33.44 | sjaakz0r | jetscreamer have you ever seen this error before unable to open firmware v4l-cx2341x-enc.fw ? |
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| 13:33.57 | cyzie | Mazingaro, can u tell me how to check similar like hdparm for pata disk ? |
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| 13:34.05 | jetscreamer | no i don't do firmware but i see that's for your tv card or so |
| 13:34.12 | anapivirtua_ | lo all |
| 13:34.19 | Eulex | sjaakz0r, you'll probably have to get a firmware file for it. |
| 13:34.20 | flogiston_ | is it: echo "startxfce4" >> that should be put in to the .xsession or just: echo "startxfce4" |
| 13:34.28 | Mazingaro | cyzie: apt-get install scsitools |
| 13:34.37 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:34.39 | Eulex | flogiston_, startxfce4. |
| 13:34.41 | j1p | flogiston_: just put startxfce4 in the file |
| 13:34.42 | cyzie | Mazingaro, copied that ;) |
| 13:34.44 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: you could always just type startxfce4 instead of startx |
| 13:34.50 | Mazingaro | cyzie: scsiinfo -i /dev/sda |
| 13:34.58 | cyzie | woot |
| 13:35.03 | flogiston_ | couldnt start with startxfc4 |
| 13:35.05 | Mazingaro | cyzie: scsiinfo -i /dev/sda |
| 13:35.07 | jetscreamer | o |
| 13:35.10 | flogiston_ | startxfce4 ofcourse |
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| 13:35.36 | zumbi | flogiston_: xfce4_setup |
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| 13:36.18 | Eulex | DevilChaos, have you got sysv-rc installed. |
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| 13:36.23 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: echo will write to the file |
| 13:36.38 | robin | so ... to set up a networked printer on Debian so I can print to it ... |
| 13:36.45 | flogiston_ | okey |
| 13:36.46 | jetscreamer | with the >> |
| 13:36.57 | robin | lpr/lpd? |
| 13:37.07 | robin | or is there some other madness to try? |
| 13:37.19 | jetscreamer | cups functions sometimes |
| 13:37.26 | DevilChaos | Eulex:dont know |
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| 13:37.43 | Eulex | DevilChaos, apt-cache policy sysv-rc and pastebin the output. |
| 13:37.50 | robin | jetscreamer, how to you print, say, an image using cups, from the command line? |
| 13:37.55 | DevilChaos | Eulex:d:k |
| 13:38.07 | Luftzig | Where do I find various error messages? |
| 13:38.12 | jetscreamer | /var/log |
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| 13:38.20 | jetscreamer | dmesg |
| 13:38.40 | Luftzig | jetscreamer, thanks |
| 13:38.48 | cyzie | Mazingaro, i got that scsitools installed. however when i exe the command "scsiinfo -i /dev/sda" which line in the result tell me it using what transfer mode ? |
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| 13:40.19 | abrotman | jetscreamer: aren't you going to be a tard at work? |
| 13:40.45 | abrotman | i mean .. more so than usual |
| 13:40.54 | flogiston_ | twm still just flashes by. |
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| 13:40.57 | jetscreamer | robin: i do not know |
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| 13:41.13 | abrotman | flogiston_: do you have a .xinitrc ? |
| 13:41.18 | raf256[laptop] | packets from unstable, that dont have bugs, after 2 weeks are included in testing right? |
| 13:41.23 | Mazingaro | cyzie: wait :) |
| 13:41.29 | DevilChaos | Eulex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1558. |
| 13:41.32 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: try startx -e startxfce4 just to be funny |
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| 13:41.37 | cyzie | Mazingaro, okieee ;) |
| 13:41.48 | jetscreamer | and byebyeabrotman |
| 13:41.50 | raf256[laptop] | I think my unstable is too fucked up and I will reintsall it to testing |
| 13:42.03 | jetscreamer | boo |
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| 13:42.15 | flogiston_ | jetscreamer, didnt work |
| 13:42.22 | mmars | ssh |
| 13:42.23 | jetscreamer | ah well |
| 13:42.24 | abrotman | flogiston_: is there a .xinitrc in ~ ? |
| 13:42.27 | abrotman | jetscreamer: off to work? |
| 13:42.28 | Mazingaro | cyzie: must be scsiinfo -C /dev/sda |
| 13:42.30 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok. apt-cache policy file-rc? |
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| 13:42.37 | jetscreamer | i installed xfce3 once a long time ago |
| 13:42.41 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: your machine .. fucked up .. i can't imagine |
| 13:42.41 | jetscreamer | yeah abrotman |
| 13:42.55 | flogiston_ | abrotman, not in /etc/X11 |
| 13:42.59 | abrotman | flogiston_: in ~ |
| 13:43.04 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: debian unstable have horrible broken kde |
| 13:43.08 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: wouldn't it be in ~ |
| 13:43.08 | flogiston_ | i'll cheack |
| 13:43.14 | jetscreamer | nm |
| 13:43.34 | abrotman | and if you're checking as root .. you get a double lart |
| 13:43.41 | cyzie | neah...it is not Mazingaro :D |
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| 13:43.42 | flogiston_ | no xinitrc |
| 13:43.47 | abrotman | it's .xinitrc |
| 13:43.50 | jetscreamer | .xinitrc |
| 13:43.53 | jetscreamer | damn |
| 13:43.53 | flogiston_ | i meant that |
| 13:43.59 | jetscreamer | did you ls -lA |
| 13:44.00 | Eulex | flogiston_, and you need to create it |
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| 13:44.12 | abrotman | Eulex: xsession shold be used if xinitrc isn't there |
| 13:44.18 | DevilChaos | Eulex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1559. |
| 13:44.45 | flogiston_ | i have put startxfce4 in /~.xsession |
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| 13:45.05 | flogiston_ | what shoult i put in the.xinitrc? |
| 13:45.05 | abrotman | flogiston_: are you IRCing from this machine ? |
| 13:45.09 | flogiston_ | no. |
| 13:45.10 | zumbi | flogiston_: xfce4_setup will create a ~/.xsession for you |
| 13:45.21 | flogiston_ | i can't run xfce4_setup |
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| 13:45.42 | nutcase | has anyone running anjuta in testing? |
| 13:45.44 | theq | Can I make a tar ball at root level "/" and restore the system on another box with different hardware. |
| 13:45.44 | manas | Ok. Can I convert LVM to normal partition without loss of data ? |
| 13:45.49 | abrotman | nutcase: i can if you want |
| 13:45.55 | jetscreamer | flogiston_: http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/ |
| 13:46.01 | theq | What do you think |
| 13:46.05 | flogiston_ | im using xfree86 |
| 13:46.08 | j1p | Does any debian release have kde 3.5? |
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| 13:46.12 | abrotman | nutcase: well .. i can try |
| 13:46.19 | abrotman | j1p: ask #debian-kde |
| 13:46.20 | zumbi | flogiston_: maybe is xfce4-setup |
| 13:46.23 | nutcase | abrotman, i can't start anjuta, and want to know if the problem is on my side or in testing |
| 13:46.28 | Mazingaro | cyzie: what? |
| 13:46.36 | abrotman | nutcase: it just crashed on me too ... |
| 13:46.37 | flogiston_ | non of the, |
| 13:46.38 | nutcase | abrotman, so it would help me, yes, please :) |
| 13:46.42 | abrotman | nutcase: let me check a bit |
| 13:46.46 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok. you have uninstalled sysv-rc. you must have gotten the following noticed and done like it said: "You are about to do something potentially harmful. To continue type in the phrase 'Yes, do as I say!'" |
| 13:46.52 | Eulex | *notice |
| 13:47.01 | nutcase | abrotman, ok, now i can stop figuring out the problem |
| 13:47.03 | cyzie | Mazingaro, scsitools -C is not the shwoing any info except all 0 value |
| 13:47.13 | theq | suggestions to create a potable hard disk image to keep as backup?? |
| 13:47.26 | nutcase | abrotman, i thought it could be, because of some untrusted sources in sources.list (e.g., os-works.com |
| 13:47.35 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok yeah thats what i did how do i correct? |
| 13:47.56 | Eulex | DevilChaos, removing such a package is extremely risky. you can (1) try to apt-get install the package (2) download the .deb, extract it and put the files in the right places on your harddrive |
| 13:48.00 | abrotman | nutcase: dpkg -l anjuta ... what version ? |
| 13:48.01 | Mazingaro | cyzie: mmmh |
| 13:48.15 | nutcase | abrotman, 1.2.4-1+b1 |
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| 13:48.28 | abrotman | nutcase: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=340862 |
| 13:48.33 | abrotman | !why is anjuta not in testing |
| 13:48.33 | dpkg | anjuta is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=anjuta |
| 13:49.05 | DevilChaos | it wont let me do it i dont think |
| 13:49.08 | nutcase | abrotman, it worked until an upgrade on monday |
| 13:49.10 | DevilChaos | installl |
| 13:49.26 | abrotman | nutcase: the bug implies it's fixed in unstable .. .but testing is still borked |
| 13:49.30 | theq | can you read me? |
| 13:49.35 | abrotman | no |
| 13:49.37 | theq | can you read me? |
| 13:49.39 | abrotman | no |
| 13:49.42 | theq | ok:) |
| 13:49.56 | theq | can i have an answer |
| 13:50.01 | theq | don't sday no |
| 13:50.06 | theq | :) |
| 13:50.08 | nutcase | abrotman, and i installed it this year, the bug report is from nov05, mysterious |
| 13:50.08 | Eulex | no |
| 13:50.20 | DevilChaos | Eulex complete reinstall from net cd req i think |
| 13:50.30 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok, then you need to download the .deb, extract it with dpkg-deb -X filename and put the extracted files in the right places on your hd |
| 13:50.42 | abrotman | nutcase: yes .. but see the bug being resolved .. see the version it's "fixed" in .. that version is now in unstable .. but the version the bug was filed against is the one currently in testing |
| 13:50.45 | DevilChaos | doh |
| 13:50.51 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 13:51.01 | DevilChaos | ill give it a shot |
| 13:51.01 | Eulex | DevilChaos, a complete reinstall would solve it too, and may be an alternative if you just installed and have nothing to lose by reinstalling |
| 13:51.15 | nutcase | abrotman, so i should wait, or should i install anjuta from sid? |
| 13:51.24 | DevilChaos | i have nothing to lose but drivers might not go in like id like |
| 13:51.41 | DevilChaos | laptop has specials |
| 13:51.48 | abrotman | nutcase: well .. you can try the one from sid .. but it may not work |
| 13:52.10 | DevilChaos | Eulex: where is the deb please? |
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| 13:52.23 | Eulex | DevilChaos, packages.debian.org/sysv-rc |
| 13:52.27 | DevilChaos | ty |
| 13:52.29 | nutcase | abrotman, i tried, and it worked, but i am not sure how to do this in a clean way, without switching my whole system into sid |
| 13:52.46 | abrotman | nutcase: or you can grab one from snapshot.debian.net .. and put it on hold for a bit |
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| 13:52.53 | Eulex | DevilChaos, umh, sorry, forgot that pdo was down :( |
| 13:53.00 | cyzie | Mazingaro, run out of any now? hehe |
| 13:53.01 | DevilChaos | pdo? |
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| 13:53.09 | Mazingaro | cyzie: :) |
| 13:53.10 | Eulex | DevilChaos, packages.debian.org |
| 13:53.15 | Mazingaro | cyzie: wait |
| 13:53.23 | DevilChaos | ah lol shock just when i need something |
| 13:53.36 | Eulex | DevilChaos, you can check if it's on your system with locate *sysv-rc*.deb |
| 13:53.43 | nutcase | abrotman, and what about its long list of dependencies? should i download them all by hand, or do you mean i should add snapshot.debian.net to sources.list? |
| 13:53.45 | abrotman | nutcase: it won't install without a bunch of other dependencies |
| 13:53.51 | Mazingaro | cyzie: scsiinfo -a /dev/sda |
| 13:53.54 | nutcase | :) |
| 13:54.07 | DevilChaos | with *'s |
| 13:54.09 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 13:54.09 | abrotman | nutcase: unless you want to learn about pinning etc .. i think i might just go back a version .. and upgrade later |
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| 13:54.21 | Eulex | DevilChaos, yes. |
| 13:54.23 | nutcase | i know how to pin |
| 13:54.42 | Mazingaro | cyzie: look for Wide bus and Snchronous neg. |
| 13:55.03 | DevilChaos | Eulex: returned nothing just returned to promt |
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| 13:55.22 | cyzie | Mazingaro, can i paste u the output in private message? |
| 13:55.23 | abrotman | nutcase: ok .. that's up to you .. remember . unstable is getting the new gnome .. so who knows what will happen :) |
| 13:55.24 | nutcase | abrotman, i added unstable sources to sources.list, aptitude installed anjuta pinned my anjuta, and deleted unstable sources from sources.list, is that the correct way, or should i read more about pinning? |
| 13:55.26 | dimir_ | G'day! |
| 13:55.50 | Mazingaro | cyzie: yes |
| 13:56.09 | Eulex | DevilChaos, hmm, ok. you may need to run updatedb. |
| 13:56.12 | abrotman | !tell nutcase about pinning |
| 13:56.13 | flogiston_ | now i got xfce running. |
| 13:56.18 | cyzie | Mazingaro, done pasting. it seems that all value is 0. |
| 13:56.27 | flogiston_ | but the mouse behaves a bit strange |
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| 13:56.29 | Mazingaro | ok |
| 13:56.32 | Mazingaro | lsmod? |
| 13:56.33 | DevilChaos | running........ |
| 13:56.46 | abrotman | flogiston_: that's vague |
| 13:56.50 | DevilChaos | returned to prompt |
| 13:56.52 | flogiston_ | The coursor just jumps down to the lower left corner |
| 13:57.00 | abrotman | what protocol did you pick? |
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| 13:57.30 | spark_ | guys, I'm getting the following error trying to upgrade my libc6-dev; any ideas? |
| 13:57.30 | spark_ | dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev_2.3.5-11_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 13:57.30 | spark_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:57.30 | flogiston_ | abrotman, vague? my english isn't that good. |
| 13:57.30 | abrotman | flogiston_: you clarified .. |
| 13:57.34 | abrotman | spark_: sid? |
| 13:57.48 | flogiston_ | abrotman, simplify you english |
| 13:57.54 | spark_ | abrotman: unstable |
| 13:57.55 | abrotman | flogiston_: you're fine .. |
| 13:57.58 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok, now try rerunning locate *sysv-rc*.deb |
| 13:57.59 | abrotman | spark_: did you check the bts ? |
| 13:58.03 | asg | spark_: apt-get -f install, check the bts |
| 13:58.07 | abrotman | !drxx flogiston_ |
| 13:58.07 | dpkg | flogiston_: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 13:58.10 | spark_ | what's the bts? |
| 13:58.16 | asg | !btssmite spark_ |
| 13:58.23 | spark_ | hehe |
| 13:58.26 | Eulex | anyway, anyone have any idea why sysv-rc ain't at ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ ? |
| 13:58.39 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok found |
| 13:58.40 | raf256 | omfg |
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| 13:58.49 | flogiston_ | what mouse path should i use? |
| 13:58.50 | raf256 | even the fonts are fucked up in unstable! |
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| 13:58.58 | flogiston_ | /dev/psuax? |
| 13:58.58 | raf256 | what the hell they did to KDE |
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| 13:59.09 | asg | raf256: check the bts, consult #debian-kde |
| 13:59.11 | abrotman | flogiston_: /dev/input/mice .. and what kind of mouse is it ? |
| 13:59.22 | raf256[laptop] | asg: mhm ok |
| 13:59.22 | abrotman | or stop using kde |
| 13:59.23 | prout546 | hello, could someone recommend me a CVS application for kde/debian? |
| 13:59.27 | DevilChaos | raf256: not nice manners to swear ! |
| 13:59.27 | Eulex | DevilChaos, extract it with dpkg-deb -X |
| 13:59.38 | Eulex | prout546, cvs. |
| 13:59.41 | flogiston_ | a PS/2 microsoft two button ballmouse. |
| 13:59.45 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: even Linus says very sane person uses kde |
| 13:59.45 | flogiston_ | old one |
| 13:59.48 | raf256[laptop] | *every |
| 13:59.57 | POVaddct | flogiston_: ps/2 or usb connected? |
| 14:00.05 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: what the fuck makes you think linus is sane? |
| 14:00.06 | asg | DevilChaos: it's trivial to write a profanity filter for your irc client if that bothers you |
| 14:00.07 | flogiston_ | ps/2 |
| 14:00.09 | prout546 | Eulex: CVS? Forgot to mention, I would also like a gui... =] |
| 14:00.10 | DevilChaos | with the path name obveusly? |
| 14:00.20 | Eulex | flogiston_, /dev/psaux |
| 14:00.27 | DevilChaos | typos damn things |
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| 14:00.30 | flogiston_ | thats what i have set up now. |
| 14:00.31 | abrotman | it will be /dev/input/mice if mousedev is loaded |
| 14:00.36 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: his OS is better then OSes of most drug addicts? |
| 14:00.41 | POVaddct | flogiston_: then use device /dev/psaux and protocol PS/2 |
| 14:00.52 | Eulex | prout546, cervisia? |
| 14:00.52 | spark_ | asg: I already tried -f install, didn't work; and haven't found anything on debian.org/Bugs yet ... is it a known problem? |
| 14:00.58 | spark_ | asg: to you I mean |
| 14:00.59 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: once again .. your rantings are impossible to follow |
| 14:01.03 | nutcase | abrotman, ok, i did knew NOTHING about pinning, thank you |
| 14:01.09 | DevilChaos | no it doesnt bother me that much but you dont see everyone else swearing do you? |
| 14:01.11 | prout546 | I do not know. What is your recommendation? |
| 14:01.13 | abrotman | nutcase: i think you were "holding" eh? |
| 14:01.32 | asg | spark_: start looking at the pre/post install scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ for the package and fix them so it works. File a bug also |
| 14:01.34 | nutcase | abrotman, yes, that's what i did, mixed up these two |
| 14:01.42 | abrotman | nutcase: yep .. very different |
| 14:01.52 | nutcase | abrotman, indeed :D |
| 14:01.56 | raf256[laptop] | abrotman: KDE in ustable is HORRIBLY GRAVE BROKEN thats all :/ |
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| 14:02.06 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: KDE IS HORRIBLY BROKEN .. get over it |
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| 14:02.29 | flogiston_ | I hade ImPS/2 protocol set in the config |
| 14:02.35 | flogiston_ | It workes now |
| 14:02.47 | abrotman | flogiston_: anything else you need help with? |
| 14:02.55 | POVaddct | flogiston_: ImPS/2 is for wheel mice |
| 14:02.59 | flogiston_ | got it working now. |
| 14:03.10 | abrotman | POVaddct: if it works .. don't knock it :) |
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| 14:03.16 | flogiston_ | Just need to install tighvncserver and i'm happy |
| 14:03.23 | flogiston_ | But that i got working before |
| 14:03.36 | POVaddct | abrotman: hehe, okay |
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| 14:04.14 | spark_ | asg: there is no libc6-dev.preinst/postinst - and btw, is it possible that this is related to signatures not being able to be verified? |
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| 14:04.30 | asg | spark_: not likely. /msg dpkg 2006 key to solve that problem though |
| 14:04.46 | POVaddct | flogiston_: consider installing x11vnc, it exports the existing X display (other than Xvnc, which allocates its own X display) |
| 14:05.02 | asg | spark_: also, do *any* /var/lib/dpkg/info/libc6-dev* files exist? |
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| 14:05.24 | spark_ | asg: yes: libc6-dev.list libc6-dev.md5sums |
| 14:05.51 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok where am i extracting to u'll have to run me through it please quite thick today lots floating round my head sorry? |
| 14:05.59 | bsn_ua | anybody have a program named AUDIOWRAPPER? |
| 14:06.12 | liable | NO |
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| 14:06.34 | asg | spark_: if the deb is in /var/cache/apt/archives, try 'dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/libc6-dev' as root |
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| 14:07.40 | spark_ | asg: same error |
| 14:08.04 | asg | spark_: did that unpack the pre/postinst files in /var/lib/dpkg/info? |
| 14:08.11 | flogiston_ | POYaddct, is that bettrn than vnc server? |
| 14:08.11 | bsn_ua | anybody have a program named AUDIOWRAPPER? |
| 14:08.11 | asg | spark_: if not, you'll have to file a bug |
| 14:08.25 | spark_ | asg: nope, didn't unpack |
| 14:08.47 | liable | bsn_ua: how about asking a meaningful question? |
| 14:09.15 | spark_ | asg: btw, why the 'Operation not permitted'? |
| 14:09.22 | nvz | I was trying to figure out how to use dosbox from an ssh session at work last night.. and it never occured to me the machine I was on was running windows and already had dos :P |
| 14:09.45 | spark_ | asg: it almost seems as if there's no more free space on my root partition or something; but that's not the case |
| 14:09.46 | asg | spark_: you could run 'strace -o trace.txt dpkg -i ...' and see if anything interesting is listed |
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| 14:10.14 | spark_ | asg: hm, good one |
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| 14:10.33 | prout546 | hello, what tool do you recommend for uml? |
| 14:10.34 | Eulex | DevilChaos, dpkg-deb -X takes a filename and a directory. create a new directory and extract the files to it. I think it will unpack so it will create for example /dir/that/you/chose/usr/bin. you'll then have to copy those files into the right locations (in the case of the example /usr/bin) |
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| 14:11.33 | sjaakz0r | is there anyone here that knows how I can tune my tv-tuner? |
| 14:11.33 | spark_ | asg: link("/usr/include/complex.h", "/usr/include/complex.h.dpkg-tmp") = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) |
| 14:11.34 | DevilChaos | k |
| 14:11.37 | nutcase | abrotman, thx for your help, now i have anjuta 1.2.4a in testing. |
| 14:11.47 | Eulex | DevilChaos, man dpkg-deb if you're unsure on what command line arguments it takes. |
| 14:11.50 | abrotman | nutcase: and it works ok ? |
| 14:11.52 | asg | spark_: try manually making that link with ln(1) |
| 14:12.08 | spark_ | asg: holy crap: ?r-x-wSr-T 64877 1321912191 707089389 3295889736 1991-05-17 16:05 complex.h |
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| 14:12.31 | spark_ | asg: that's my current complex.h in /usr/include |
| 14:12.46 | nutcase | abrotman, well it starts again, i have correct fonts in editor (i hadn't during test i ran before with anjuta from stable) |
| 14:12.47 | asg | spark_: time to fsck that filesystem |
| 14:13.05 | Eulex | spark_, yeah, looks like your fs got a bit corrupted. |
| 14:13.08 | nutcase | abrotman, i have to check the -dev-dependencies |
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| 14:13.42 | abrotman | nutcase: ah ... ok .. good .. |
| 14:13.42 | spark_ | asg: indeed :S it's been a while since I last had to manually fsck my filesystem; what's the best way to do this manually? |
| 14:13.54 | raf256[laptop] | debian support donations, right? |
| 14:13.58 | asg | spark_: touch /forcefsck ; reboot |
| 14:14.08 | spark_ | asg: damn, that's a handy trick |
| 14:14.12 | nvz | raf256[laptop]: no, donations support debian. |
| 14:14.18 | nutcase | abrotman, f3 (run app) doesn't work, but i have to figure out |
| 14:14.20 | spark_ | asg: I'd almost think you're pulling my leg on this one |
| 14:14.21 | raf256[laptop] | is there some way, that I can donate money and they will in exchange poke KDE devel with a sharp stick for me? |
| 14:14.29 | abrotman | nutcase: hrm .. |
| 14:14.33 | asg | spark_: grep -r forcefsck /etc/init.d |
| 14:14.43 | spark_ | asg: hehe, just kidding |
| 14:14.43 | abrotman | raf256[laptop]: ask #debian-kde |
| 14:14.43 | blondie | FERRETTTTTTTT |
| 14:14.49 | blondie | come back |
| 14:14.49 | abrotman | blondie: a fart? |
| 14:14.49 | nutcase | abrotman, gnome-terminal: command not found, no problem |
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| 14:14.54 | asg | spark_: if you want to verify it yourself; I wouldn't blame you if you did |
| 14:14.55 | blondie | no, ferret :D |
| 14:14.58 | abrotman | nutcase: install it! |
| 14:14.59 | liable | GERBEL? |
| 14:15.11 | asg | CHINCHILLA |
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| 14:15.19 | blondie | no, ferret :| |
| 14:15.23 | spark_ | asg: thanks for the help, going for the reboot now |
| 14:15.30 | nvz | oh well I guess I am going to talk to the chief by myself this morning, nobody will answer the phone |
| 14:15.41 | nutcase | abrotman, of course, but my isp-connection is too slow... :), but it sucks some packages from unstable, but most from testing |
| 14:15.41 | asg | spark_: you're welcome |
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| 14:15.54 | ferret | blondie: ? |
| 14:16.26 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok i got a list of extracts so do i just put them in the directorys they were ment to go in like etc/ usr/ and usr/share ? |
| 14:16.35 | NoboruKun | if yahoo now has a chance to reselect the OS for their servers in the future, would they still select freebsd or... ?i am curious :) |
| 14:16.48 | Eulex | DevilChaos, yes. |
| 14:16.49 | blondie | ferret: don't worry :) |
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| 14:17.28 | Eulex | NoboruKun, asking /dev/random is a better bet than asking #debian. |
| 14:17.52 | NoboruKun | Eulex, i haven't installed *NIX yet :) |
| 14:18.11 | Eulex | NoboruKun, that has nothing to do with it :P |
| 14:18.42 | NoboruKun | the art of speaking ? |
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| 14:19.00 | luca7 | hi all |
| 14:19.26 | cyzie | how to check what transfer mode is my sata drive in debian? for pata disk, it is hdparm -I /dev/hda |
| 14:19.34 | sjaakz0r | anyone here who worked with ivtv before? |
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| 14:20.07 | Eulex | cyzie, sata drives aren't supported by hdparm yet. I think you can look at your dmesg. |
| 14:20.09 | luca7 | i have a simple question :) how do i get a graphical install for my debian system ? what package do i have to select ? |
| 14:20.15 | asg | luca7: /msg dpkg set up x |
| 14:20.44 | xchg | hmhm, the "new" gnome seems to be great (didn't played with it since gnome1) |
| 14:20.53 | liable | luca7: as root run 'tasksel' |
| 14:21.11 | luca7 | ok |
| 14:21.30 | liable | luca7: pick desktop |
| 14:21.40 | luca7 | liable but what package do i have to install from the menu ? |
| 14:21.54 | luca7 | liable except man package selection ... |
| 14:21.55 | cyzie | Eulex, .... not much info in dmesg. is there anY other way ? |
| 14:22.10 | liable | luca7: ^^ |
| 14:22.44 | luca7 | liable i know i dont have to install sql sever mail server because they can also be installed after . but whats the default package that debian system req for a proper boot after :) |
| 14:22.59 | sjaakz0r | is videodev2.h included with debian standard? |
| 14:23.00 | Eulex | cyzie, not that I know of. |
| 14:23.15 | cyzie | Eulex, okay. thanks for offer help |
| 14:23.16 | liable | luca7: wtf? you have lost me with that one.. |
| 14:23.42 | luca7 | liable what package do i have to select man ? like example: " mail server , sql server desktop ... " ? |
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| 14:24.06 | Eulex | luca7, debian doesn't require any special packages boot properly next time, but for a gui you'll need x-window-system and a desktop environment or a window manager. |
| 14:24.12 | Eulex | *to boot |
| 14:24.33 | luca7 | liable what is got to be check and what not ? " all i need is a graphical system .. all other package can be installed later |
| 14:24.36 | liable | luca7: if you have run tasksel, pick desktop. |
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| 14:25.03 | luca7 | liable you dont get me man |
| 14:25.12 | liable | obviously.. |
| 14:25.12 | luca7 | liable so i dont have to select any package ? |
| 14:25.29 | liable | i have no idea. |
| 14:25.30 | Eulex | luca7, exactly what do you want? |
| 14:26.11 | psyco-obiwan | hello |
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| 14:26.31 | luca7 | Eulex> i want to know what package do i have to select for installation to have a stand system with x ? |
| 14:26.54 | clojster1 | ho |
| 14:27.01 | luca7 | Eulex on the menu " mail server .. sql server " desktop environment " what should i select just desktop environment ? |
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| 14:27.09 | psyco-obiwan | how do install the md5 command i have on the *bsd boxes ? apt-file didnt find it anywhere and its not in the basesystem..sorry if this is a stupid question... |
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| 14:27.26 | Eulex | luca7, to get, you need to install x-window-system. however, installing X alone won't give you a gui next time you reboot. |
| 14:27.33 | Eulex | *to get X |
| 14:27.35 | raf256 | psyco-obiwan: the force is strong with you |
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| 14:27.48 | psyco-obiwan | yeah, but not in this case ;-) |
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| 14:28.27 | luca7 | Eulex you still didnt answer my question " do i have to select those package myself or its the default install ? |
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| 14:28.40 | spark_ | asg: hm, it only fsck'd my /home partition |
| 14:28.45 | spark_ | asg: can't I switch to single-user-mode and run the fsck or something? |
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| 14:29.17 | Eulex | luca7, it's not installed by default. and you never asked if it was installed by default, you asked what you needed to install to get it. |
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| 14:29.24 | luca7 | Eulex so to get x-window-system i just have to check the desktop environmen section and thats it ? or choice from the " man package selection " menu " x-window-syst "em |
| 14:29.44 | luca7 | Eulex yeah . i asked what do i have to select and from where ? |
| 14:30.38 | psyco-obiwan | DarkMule: I dont get rid of the feeling the question about md5 is uberstupid but i just didnt find out how i do a md5 of a file i.e. |
| 14:30.46 | luca7 | Eulex i tryed a few times to install debian with x and it faild |
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| 14:30.57 | DarkMule | psyco-obiwan: md5sum file |
| 14:31.05 | luca7 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:31.15 | asg | spark_: yes, just type 'shutdown' as root. Then, remount any other filesystems ro and fsck them |
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| 14:31.24 | Eulex | luca7, skip tasksel. apt-get x-window-system and your preferred desktop environment. |
| 14:31.25 | psyco-obiwan | DarkMule: hhmmm..lemme check that...i cant believe to be that stupid... |
| 14:31.43 | spark_ | asg: right, I'll try that; thanks |
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| 14:32.13 | Eulex | luca7, do you know how to apt-get it? |
| 14:32.24 | luca7 | Eulex man please just answer what i want to know , " what do i have to select so i can boot the system after i reboot ? |
| 14:32.26 | spark_ | asg: heh, shutdown with no arguments ain't gonna work |
| 14:32.33 | raf256 | DarkMule: good work my apprentice |
| 14:32.36 | asg | spark_: does here, odd. |
| 14:32.37 | luca7 | Eulex yeah sure |
| 14:32.39 | spark_ | asg: and I'm not sure which argument will leave me in single-user mode |
| 14:32.52 | luca7 | Eulex im just not fam with debian and how debian works |
| 14:33.08 | cahoot | spark_: shutdown-rF should force fsck |
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| 14:33.15 | psyco-obiwan | im sure i tried with shell completion... |
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| 14:33.23 | luca7 | Eulex my system might not boot if i dont install specific package , do you get me ? |
| 14:33.28 | spark_ | cahoot: yeah but I already rebooted after creating the /forcefsck file |
| 14:33.28 | Eulex | luca7, the system will boot very well even without an X server and a desktop environment. if you need a gui, apt-get x-window-system and your preferred desktop environment |
| 14:33.37 | spark_ | cahoot: didn't result in my root partition being checked |
| 14:33.41 | psyco-obiwan | argh....sometimes it helps to to talk about it... |
| 14:33.46 | luca7 | Eulex aint |
| 14:33.48 | asg | spark_: at the very least, booting with 'single' from lilo or grub will get you where you need to be |
| 14:33.48 | cahoot | spark_: ok |
| 14:33.51 | luca7 | Eulex ill try it |
| 14:34.12 | psyco-obiwan | so thx anyway for the light hit with the cluebat |
| 14:34.13 | nutcase | abrotman, all things that i need, work now |
| 14:34.17 | Eulex | luca7, so it's not booting properly? |
| 14:34.18 | spark_ | asg: I recall being able to switch to single-user mode by running 'init 1' ? |
| 14:34.23 | abrotman | nutcase: yay |
| 14:34.38 | luca7 | Eulex well it might not if i dont select any package isnt it ? |
| 14:34.43 | asg | spark_: or telinit 1 |
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| 14:35.15 | Eulex | luca7, if your system doesn't boot after installing debian, it has nothing to with that you didn't select some package. |
| 14:36.33 | nutcase | abrotman, yes, thanks, but: i just wanted to start creating a gtk-gui, hope that there will be no more problems, but when there are some, i probably know how to (re)solve them. thanks again |
| 14:36.42 | abrotman | !gazpacho |
| 14:36.42 | dpkg | i heard gazpacho is A fresh new GUI builder for the GTK+ toolkit designed to be ultra easy to use: http://gazpacho.sicem.biz/ or see <glade> |
| 14:36.46 | abrotman | nutcase: ^^ |
| 14:37.02 | abrotman | nutcase: and check out glade |
| 14:37.15 | luca7 | Eulex ok so im not going to select any package this time |
| 14:37.18 | luca7 | Eulex thanks |
| 14:37.31 | Eulex | luca7, yw |
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| 14:38.35 | nutcase | abrotman, yes, that's what annjuta tells me, too... i tried it out, but then i had problems with libgtk2.0-dev and then anjuta didn't start anymore |
| 14:39.04 | abrotman | nutcase: check out that gazpacho .. |
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| 14:39.24 | abrotman | nutcase: i've heard it's better than glade for designing the gui |
| 14:40.00 | nutcase | abrotman, downloading... |
| 14:40.04 | sjaakz0r | how can I install freetype on sarge? |
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| 14:41.45 | ricercar | Hello there |
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| 14:43.00 | abrotman | !moo |
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| 14:43.00 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 14:43.14 | delcedo | hello |
| 14:43.17 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok hopefully got all dir's correct now apt-get update? |
| 14:43.48 | ricercar | I've just done a network install of debian 3.1 (2.6.8-2-386 kernel). I tried starting qjackctl, which said "Could not open ALSA sequencer as a client. MIDI patchbay will be not available. ALSA lib seq_hw.c:446:(snd_seq_hw_open) open /dev/snd/seq failed: No such file or directory" and fluidsynth/qsynth can't run without the jack server. Very grateful for any help (I'n a musician and not very technical - just a long-time linux user) |
| 14:43.49 | nutcase | abrotman, now i have exactly the same problem i had when i ran anjuta the last time. i can compile my main.c but not the whole project, so i have to fiddle with the linker- and compiler-options |
| 14:44.04 | abrotman | nutcase: erm .. that's beyond me .. sorry |
| 14:44.07 | Eulex | DevilChaos, yes. everything will hopefully work now, and you will hopefully be able to install sysv-rc. |
| 14:44.22 | Eulex | nutcase, create yourself a Makefile. |
| 14:44.32 | nutcase | abrotman, no problem, i just wanted to inform you, that it can last some time |
| 14:44.56 | Eulex | ricercar, apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils && alsaconf |
| 14:44.57 | abrotman | nutcase: should be easier to write software dman it :) |
| 14:45.20 | nutcase | Eulex, i want to use anjuta for that, there i can set these options, that auto[make|gen|conf] and configure will create me one |
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| 14:45.30 | sjaakz0r | why can't I apt-get install mysql ? |
| 14:45.31 | DevilChaos | Eulex: E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old ones used instaed? |
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| 14:45.49 | nutcase | but true, i thought: why is it so hard to start... |
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| 14:46.00 | Eulex | nutcase, then create yourself a Makefile.am and configure.in and copy the other required files into the dir. |
| 14:46.10 | spark_ | asg: right, you won't believe the amount of errors that fsck resulted in |
| 14:46.12 | Eulex | DevilChaos, error above that is? |
| 14:46.21 | asg | spark_: eeek |
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| 14:46.37 | spark_ | asg: indeed, methinks it's about time for a re-install |
| 14:46.50 | asg | spark_: if fsck cleaned things up, though, you should be fine. |
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| 14:47.03 | DevilChaos | err ftp://ftp.uk.debian.org testing/contrib sources |
| 14:47.09 | spark_ | asg: well it cleaned things up, as in, /usr/include/complex.h wasn't even there yet anymore after the fsck |
| 14:47.13 | nutcase | Eulex, to add libmagick++ worked with anjuta, so i hope i can get this with gtk, too. if i don't get it work, i'll try by hand |
| 14:47.28 | spark_ | asg: the upgrade is running smooth now though |
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| 14:47.31 | asg | spark_: did it put it in /lost+found? |
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| 14:47.40 | Eulex | nutcase, ah, ok |
| 14:47.42 | DevilChaos | testing/non-free too |
| 14:47.45 | sjaakz0r | how I I install freetype? |
| 14:47.55 | spark_ | asg: I guess it did, along with a whole lot of other files |
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| 14:48.03 | asg | spark_: ah |
| 14:48.13 | nutcase | Eulex, and i was recommended to use an ide, before i tried anjuta, i programmed everything with linux (but no c++) |
| 14:48.23 | nutcase | s/linux/emacs |
| 14:48.24 | nutcase | :) |
| 14:48.53 | Eulex | sjaakz0r, apt-get install libttf2 |
| 14:49.16 | eleftherios | are there reports of things breaking if one moves to an english UTF-8 locale? |
| 14:49.19 | sjaakz0r | and Qt ? |
| 14:49.23 | delcedo | @all : I'm french, sorry for my mistakes : I've a problem : i'm making my own server with apache and ssh. This server is connected with another computer (windows) on eth0 et connected to my "routeur" wich is Internet. I make a bridge in order to share my connection and this is work :-). But I don't know how to do to access to my server in local or internet. Localhost server works, I can access to Internet from Server (with w3m) |
| 14:49.30 | ricercar | Eulex: Thanks. I'm missing alsaconf ("v" at left in aptitude). How can I force it to download? |
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| 14:49.54 | Eulex | nutcase, ok. I personally use anjuta for organizing the files in a project, but I do compiling and testing and creating makefiles and such in a terminal. |
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| 14:50.05 | Eulex | ricercar, you need to run it as root or use sudo to run it. |
| 14:50.27 | DevilChaos | Eulex: ok im going for reinstall but need your help with figuring out what partitions are what as they anre funny sizes and one needs to stay hidden as the laptop need this its an advent |
| 14:50.38 | NoboruKun | im still working hard on debian vs freebsd hmm |
| 14:50.42 | ricercar | Eulex: That's what I am in aptitude |
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| 14:51.13 | ilgufo | hi |
| 14:51.15 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok. |
| 14:51.23 | DevilChaos | Eulexill give a paste of the partition table and see what you think |
| 14:51.29 | abrotman | !fr |
| 14:51.29 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
| 14:51.30 | DevilChaos | hold on |
| 14:51.33 | DevilChaos | ..... |
| 14:51.33 | robin | sigh ... OK, since man [cupsys|cups] produces nothing ... where do I find the manula for setting up cups then? |
| 14:51.37 | Eulex | ricercar, alsaconf is not a package, it's a command. |
| 14:51.38 | delcedo | i'm french ^^ |
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| 14:51.45 | delcedo | thank you :) |
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| 14:52.16 | bazfh | hi |
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| 14:52.21 | s9ik3 | qualcuno parla italiano? |
| 14:52.24 | s9ik3 | hi all |
| 14:52.33 | nutcase | abrotman, what kind of script/bot is this !-bot ? |
| 14:52.40 | ilgufo | s9ik3, io |
| 14:52.44 | Eulex | !it |
| 14:52.44 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 14:52.48 | s9ik3 | ciao ilgufo |
| 14:52.50 | sjaakz0r | how do I install Qt ? |
| 14:52.54 | nutcase | !dpkg |
| 14:53.01 | nutcase | :( |
| 14:53.03 | Eulex | !tell sjaakz0r about search |
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| 14:53.14 | abrotman | !tell nutcase about blootbot |
| 14:53.25 | prem_ | hi all |
| 14:53.36 | bazfh | does somebody know if theres a way to build a package that replaces a config file of a package it depends on? (without loosing the config file, when depended package gets upgraded) |
| 14:53.42 | ilgufo | ciao s9ik3 |
| 14:53.57 | ricercar | Thanks again - why does it show up in aptitude? (I assume "v" = virtual) |
| 14:53.57 | sjaakz0r | yeah Eulex but that gives a lot of results when I search for qt |
| 14:54.08 | Eulex | sjaakz0r, --names-only |
| 14:54.24 | Eulex | sjaakz0r, and try using grep and less. |
| 14:54.31 | nutcase | abrotman, thx |
| 14:54.36 | prem_ | what is the equivalant of /dev/dsp when alsa in action i am not able to see any /dev/dsp but there is some /dev/snd/mixer /dev/snd/pcm* /dev/snd/control* |
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| 14:55.32 | cahoot | prem_: pcmC0D0p for output from first snd-device |
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| 14:56.46 | reaper | kaffe-bin has been using a large amount of CPU nonstop for the past day and a half, anyone know why it would do that |
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| 14:56.53 | sjaakz0r | is it libq3c110 Eulex ? |
| 14:56.54 | bazfh | re |
| 14:57.04 | sjaakz0r | libq3c102 even |
| 14:57.14 | iostream | Hi, how does one suppress (kernel) messages from appearing at the console? |
| 14:57.30 | bazfh | does anybody know then if dpkg-divert really can't be used for configuratio file diversions? |
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| 14:57.34 | ricercar | Eulex: Do I need to run alsaconf as root? |
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| 14:57.40 | bazfh | s/configuratio/configuration/ |
| 14:57.42 | Eulex | ricercar, yes |
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| 14:57.55 | Eulex | sjaakz0r, check the description. |
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| 14:58.08 | ricercar | Eulex: OK. I'll try it. 'Bye now |
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| 14:59.00 | prem_ | cahoot, i am trying to use vmware it says "trying to reset sound device and improper ioctl" for /dev/snd/pcmC0D0p |
| 14:59.14 | DevilChaos | Eulex: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1560 |
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| 14:59.51 | cahoot | prem_: I suspect vmware doesn't know jack about alsa - use alsas oss emulation - snd-pcm-oss |
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| 15:03.27 | prem_ | cahoot, by default /dev/dsp is searched by vmware as i understand there are different device entry for control, line-in, line-out |
| 15:03.39 | prem_ | in /dev/snd |
| 15:04.02 | DevilChaos | Eulex: i think hda1 is / 2 swap obviously and 3 is home partitions? |
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| 15:04.40 | cahoot | prem_: you want snd-pcm-oss to get /dev/dsp with alsa |
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| 15:05.29 | Eulex | DevilChaos, run fdisk -l to find out what you've got. |
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| 15:05.39 | prem_ | cahoot, any idea how to do it? |
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| 15:06.00 | blob | prem_: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
| 15:06.02 | DevilChaos | done that and pasted to http://channels.debian.net/paste/1560 |
| 15:06.12 | cahoot | prem_: I know nothing about vmware - modprobe snd-pcm-oss to get /dev/dsp |
| 15:06.13 | adsd | what x server driver should i choice ? i dont really know whats my video card ;) |
| 15:06.16 | DevilChaos | Eulex:^ |
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| 15:06.58 | adsd | any ideea ? |
| 15:07.06 | fox-boy | hi, all... I'm trying to upgrade some of my packages through Synaptic but keet getting an error informing of a conflict with e2fsprogs |
| 15:07.26 | prem_ | cahoot, thanks that works |
| 15:07.30 | fox-boy | it says to enter APT::Force-LoopBreak but advises this to be dangerous |
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| 15:08.12 | fox-boy | any ideas what to do? Should I upgrade to etch? |
| 15:08.43 | bibe | fox-boy : what "extra" repositories are you using? |
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| 15:09.20 | adsd | what x server driver should i install so x runs corectlly ? |
| 15:09.26 | Eulex | DevilChaos, ok. running mount and looking at the output will make you able to tell which of the linux partitions are / and /home. anyway, if you choose to configure the partitions manually in the installer you won't have any problems, if you just don't touch hda3 and hda4 |
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| 15:09.53 | fox-boy | bibe: I recently upgraded them to include several Canadian repositories... which ones exactly I'd have to go and check |
| 15:10.16 | fox-boy | bibe: are you suggesting this could make a difference? |
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| 15:10.35 | Phroziac | how can i make my machine use a higher resolution on the console? |
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| 15:11.24 | POVaddct | Phroziac: do you have vesa framebuffer support in kernel? then put vga=791 or something into grub/lilo config |
| 15:11.31 | bibe | fox-boy : mixing different repositories (I mean, different from the official repositories for your Debian's "flavour") isn't always a good idea... ;) |
| 15:11.55 | Phroziac | POVaddct: i believe i do. it's just the stock kernel that comes with debian 3.1. |
| 15:12.04 | Phroziac | what's the 791 mean? |
| 15:12.22 | POVaddct | Phroziac: 1024x768 / 16bpp framebuffer |
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| 15:12.40 | POVaddct | Phroziac: read /usr/src/linux/Documentation/fb/vesafb.txt |
| 15:12.46 | DevilChaos | Eulex : ok ill give the intall a shot |
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| 15:13.06 | DevilChaos | i know im going to faff it up anyway |
| 15:13.50 | fox-boy | bibe: Maybe I made a mistake by adding to the repositories. I included several http and ftp sources. Should I remove them? |
| 15:13.50 | Phroziac | POVaddct: ok |
| 15:14.01 | Eulex | DevilChaos, you could backup those special partitions. |
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| 15:14.28 | DevilChaos | no ill leave those as they are i think |
| 15:14.35 | DevilChaos | not touch them |
| 15:14.47 | DevilChaos | in partitioner and manual the others |
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| 15:15.15 | bibe | fox-boy : that depends on the content of the repositories, having different sources from where retrieving packages isn't a so bad idea, but... I'd suggest you to back up your sources.list and run apt-setup, it gives you a fresh and "default" sources.list |
| 15:15.23 | bibe | then update and upgrade |
| 15:15.31 | DevilChaos | Eulex: what do you think? |
| 15:16.10 | Eulex | DevilChaos, sure |
| 15:16.15 | Phroziac | POVaddct: uhm, i don't have the kernel source installed. |
| 15:16.15 | DevilChaos | k |
| 15:16.51 | fox-boy | bibe: OK thanks. I think you're saying mixing flavours as in sarge and etch is bad, right? I should isolate that pertaining to sarge and stick to them. |
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| 15:17.20 | POVaddct | Phroziac: then grab the file here: http://84.179.125.185:29274/ |
| 15:17.36 | dvm1981 | Can i amplify the sound higher in Mplayer for look a movie with my headset, the sound is not high enougth to good listen. |
| 15:18.19 | CleeK | dvm1981: maybe check your sound volume with an utility like aumix |
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| 15:18.59 | dvm1981 | CleeK: I go to look for, i seems not installed here |
| 15:19.00 | POVaddct | Phroziac: got the file? |
| 15:19.01 | belkin | "no x server know for your video hardware " what should i do ? |
| 15:19.10 | Phroziac | POVaddct: yes |
| 15:19.21 | CleeK | dvm1981: it's small, just apt-get it |
| 15:19.45 | POVaddct | Phroziac: k |
| 15:20.03 | belkin | i just run " apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 " and i get the follow error trying to configure x " no x server know for your video hardware " what should i do " |
| 15:20.10 | belkin | any ideea what should i do ? |
| 15:20.10 | dvm1981 | CleeK: Synaptic was already open, but it similar. Normally i do i with apt ... |
| 15:20.38 | bibe | fox-boy : yes, mixing sarge and etch (and/or sid) is something most of the people in here will probably never do and wouldn't surely suggest to anyone. Personally, I run sarge and use a couple of packages (linux-source-2.6.15, ksudozu, p7zip) from www.backports.org |
| 15:20.40 | dvm1981 | CleeK: Thx for the both tips, i install and try it :-) |
| 15:20.50 | POVaddct | Phroziac: in the file, the vga= values are in hexadecimal |
| 15:20.54 | bibe | *ksudoku |
| 15:20.57 | cahoot | dvm1981: * or / increase or decrease PCM volume - from mplayers help |
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| 15:20.58 | CleeK | dvm1981: you're welcome |
| 15:21.15 | POVaddct | Phroziac: so 791 = 0x317 |
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| 15:21.37 | fox-boy | bibe: OK and thanks. I'm off to run apt-setup. |
| 15:22.14 | belkin | can anyone please help me ? |
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| 15:23.24 | setog3 | I don't why but , all my game crash when I want to play it in fullscreen , I have : Fatal signal: Segmentation Fault (SDL Parachute Deployed) |
| 15:23.24 | setog3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:23.31 | setog3 | with gl-117 and widelands |
| 15:23.46 | setog3 | wtf ? |
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| 15:24.20 | JackBristow | hi @ all |
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| 15:25.07 | marc_in_lux | good afternoon |
| 15:25.27 | JackBristow | is there anyone? |
| 15:25.28 | Samara | hi |
| 15:25.45 | JackBristow | need to ask a question, can I? |
| 15:25.55 | Samara | :) |
| 15:25.59 | Coweater | just one |
| 15:26.00 | Hool | JackBristow: somone told me to not ask to ask but just ask your question.. if there is silence.. noone knows the answer ;) |
| 15:26.01 | JackBristow | ok |
| 15:26.16 | DevilChaos | bbs |
| 15:26.22 | JackBristow | have a little fileserver i'm reinstalling with debian |
| 15:26.22 | Samara | !tell JackBristow about dumb question |
| 15:26.36 | marc_in_lux | I'd like to set up 2 - or a dual-config - ssh-servers on a machine. I want to allow rootlogins locally without a lot of fuss, but want a stricter setup for everything coming from the internet (on another port, forwarded by my router, for example) |
| 15:26.57 | Hool | damn apt :( i wanted to apt-get myself a whopper but it says it canf find that package ^^ |
| 15:27.01 | marc_in_lux | how can I do that? |
| 15:27.08 | Phroziac | POVaddct: how do i set that in the grub config though? |
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| 15:27.26 | POVaddct | Phroziac: dunno about grub. i use plain old lilo. |
| 15:27.27 | asg | Hool: you need the 'Burger King' sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:27.46 | Phroziac | meh |
| 15:27.48 | JackBristow | have got a pci silicon 3112 sata card, it does the bios raid1 but debian installer says i have got /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 15:27.49 | Phroziac | i never use console anyway |
| 15:27.57 | cahoot | asg: hardly any open source in that |
| 15:27.58 | JackBristow | what i the problem? |
| 15:28.00 | bibe | Phroziac : if you are talking about vga=791, add it to the line beginning with # kopt= and run update-grub |
| 15:28.16 | Phroziac | ok |
| 15:28.23 | bibe | Phroziac : don't remove the leading # |
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| 15:28.29 | asg | cahoot: relatively easy to reverse engineer though |
| 15:28.30 | JackBristow | Hool ? |
| 15:28.45 | Hool | JackBristow: yeeees? |
| 15:28.48 | JackBristow | have got a pci silicon 3112 sata card, it does the bios raid1 but debian installer says i have got /dev/sda and /dev/sdb |
| 15:28.53 | Phroziac | and how do you convert the hex to decimal? |
| 15:28.53 | JackBristow | what i the problem? |
| 15:29.10 | POVaddct | Phroziac: you can do than in bash: echo $[0x317] |
| 15:29.32 | Hool | JackBristow: i didn't tell the bot to tell you about dumb questions no.. |
| 15:29.37 | Phroziac | sweet |
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| 15:30.09 | JackBristow | Hool : :-( |
| 15:30.49 | Hool | JackBristow: cheer up mate.. everyone can do mistakes :) It's the repetation of the same mistake that makes one a idiot ;) |
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| 15:31.06 | belkin | how do i install kde graphical desktop environment ? |
| 15:31.07 | asperon | how does one tell which packages are installed in a debian system? |
| 15:31.08 | Hool | so far you're in the clear =) |
| 15:31.13 | belkin | apt-get install what ? |
| 15:31.23 | Hool | belkin: apt-cache search? |
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| 15:31.31 | ernst | asperon: dpkg -l |
| 15:31.35 | dvm1981 | CleeK: aumix look i nice application, but it help me not to turn more sound for my headset. I have set the sound all on max to test, it works fine, but i needs i little bit more power. I have some troubles to listen at low sound level in my movie. |
| 15:31.36 | asperon | ernst: thnx |
| 15:31.37 | belkin | Hool to many outputs |
| 15:31.48 | ernst | asperon: no prblm |
| 15:31.49 | Hool | belkin: ad | more? |
| 15:31.58 | belkin | Hool i cannot see th very top ones |
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| 15:32.19 | belkin | Hool apt-chache search | kde ? |
| 15:32.23 | ubarjames | hi, in the default debian install there is not much color (xterm prompt, vi etc), how can I change this? |
| 15:32.33 | CleeK | dvm1981: do you use it on a laptop ? |
| 15:32.33 | Hool | belkin: the | more thing makes the listing halt at every page end.. and you press space for next screen |
| 15:32.38 | Hool | works in dos too =) |
| 15:32.52 | Hool | belkin: no | more |
| 15:32.52 | dvm1981 | CleeK: No on my desktop |
| 15:32.53 | belkin | Hool nice , what about the x server i cannot start it |
| 15:33.15 | belkin | Hool it says no x server know for your video hardware any ideea ? |
| 15:33.15 | Phroziac | ok, and i've never done this with grub before, i used to use lilo...what do i need to do after changing the menu.lst to make it work when i reboot? |
| 15:33.18 | Hool | belkin: dunno.. can't start mine either.. that's why im here =) |
| 15:33.31 | belkin | Hool ohh i see |
| 15:33.41 | Hool | too bad the cluebat doesn't work on hardware ey? :D |
| 15:33.46 | dvm1981 | CleeK: I have always have this problem, no enougth sound (standart) for my headset, so i need to boost a thing so it louder. |
| 15:33.48 | belkin | quite bad |
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| 15:34.25 | CleeK | dvm1981: are you sure you don't have a "hardware" volume button ? |
| 15:34.34 | belkin | Hool and also why " tasksel " doesnt work ? i get debian software installation :) |
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| 15:35.10 | dvm1981 | CleeK: No thats the problem i think, no ampliefier onboard, so i need it to do it with software. |
| 15:35.58 | CleeK | dvm1981: hmm strange, your problem is usually a laptop problem |
| 15:36.08 | Hool | belkin: sorry can't help you there either.. Never managed to break that one ( if i run it at all) |
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| 15:36.12 | dvm1981 | CleeK: He he but aumix i nice he ;-) thx for these tip, i had i not, but i had it use it before and loose it for x or y reason |
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| 15:36.42 | CleeK | dvm1981: I am not sure any software sound amplifier exist |
| 15:36.42 | CleeK | s |
| 15:36.52 | Hool | my main "Problem" with Debian is that it runs smooth.. Few hickups.. thus a shallow learning curve |
| 15:36.53 | dvm1981 | CleeK: It's possible that i have been not good explain me, have a bad english |
| 15:37.35 | abrotman | hiccups |
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| 15:37.53 | dvm1981 | CleeK: Yes, like in 'XMMS' the egualiser, we can change the tone ore somethings else and the lefts slidebar is the amplifier |
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| 15:38.21 | CleeK | dvm1981: never tried this amplfier |
| 15:39.28 | dvm1981 | CleeK: I need it always when i listen with my headset, because not enougth sound, or its more that i have troubles to listen i think ! |
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| 15:40.05 | dvm1981 | CleeK: When have some more time i go to a doctor to examin it ;-) |
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| 15:40.15 | CleeK | dvm1981: you can use hardware amplifiers to put in your ears else :) |
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| 15:41.04 | dvm1981 | CleeK: ;-) So i upgrade me a little bit :-) |
| 15:41.45 | Hool | what's the bot name again? |
| 15:41.59 | blondie | dpkg? |
| 15:42.02 | sjaakz0r | I get error Cannot find -lqt-mt during the make of mythtTV |
| 15:42.05 | sjaakz0r | what to do about it? |
| 15:42.23 | azeem | sjaakz0r: install libqt3-mt-dev |
| 15:42.47 | Hool | hrm.. is there a dpkg message for installing nvidia cards in/under x? |
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| 15:43.23 | abrotman | !tell Hool about nvidia one-liner |
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| 15:45.41 | dvm1981 | CleeK: 'XMMS' can play my movie :-) :-) so i can use the software amplifier. Really thankx :-) |
| 15:45.58 | terr | I've got a left over serious glitch from a woody to sarge upgrade (distro upgrade). It leaves 1000's of defunct processes and clearly this is because something is NOT PROGRAMMED PROPERLY: IE the code is not wait()ing its child pid AND it is not checking the errno. THere are quite a few apps doing this so I suspect its a library issue. Has anyone any ideas what the fix is? |
| 15:46.19 | CleeK | dvm1981: I personnaly use gxine. I find it more efficient than mplayer |
| 15:46.30 | abrotman | terr: doesn't a reboot fix it ? |
| 15:46.40 | boguh | where can i find java packages for debian? |
| 15:46.47 | abrotman | !tell boguh about install java |
| 15:47.26 | terr | abrotman: no - its a programming problem. |
| 15:47.26 | dvm1981 | CleeK: I not find it gxine |
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| 15:47.37 | abrotman | terr: did you check the BTS? |
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| 15:47.49 | terr | BTS? |
| 15:47.50 | abrotman | terr: paste your sources somewhere |
| 15:47.57 | abrotman | !paste |
| 15:47.57 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 15:48.04 | CleeK | dvm1981: ok |
| 15:48.09 | frbn | terr: fix it and publish a patch |
| 15:48.11 | terr | abrotman: not my sources - I dunno what function is at fault. |
| 15:48.18 | dvm1981 | CleeK: I have also found amsynt, i do no if this can help me to amplifier the sound in general when i heave my headset |
| 15:48.20 | abrotman | terr: i WANT to see your sources |
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| 15:49.21 | terr | abrotman: who knows what lib routine is common to all these programs: Includes privoxy, konversation, kdeinit, soffice |
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| 15:49.34 | abrotman | terr: are you going to do what i asked or not? |
| 15:49.34 | duck` | Does anyone know how can I limit bandwidth of transfered data per one virtual host in Apache ? |
| 15:49.42 | blondie | terr: demand a refund from debian |
| 15:49.43 | abrotman | duck`: ask #apache |
| 15:49.53 | mdupont | hi all, after I recompiled my kernel from 2.6.11->2.6.14, I lost access to the dvd device. hdc: ATAPI 63X DVD-ROM DVD-R-RAM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache MATSHITADVD-RAM UJ-831S, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive. Any ideas? |
| 15:49.59 | terr | abrotman: I didn't write the code. I know how to wait() a pid. |
| 15:50.07 | abrotman | terr: where are your sources? |
| 15:50.09 | terr | blondie funny |
| 15:50.20 | blondie | terr: well don't be all shouty :P |
| 15:50.27 | terr | abrotman: I imagine that are at www.debian.org |
| 15:50.37 | abrotman | terr: i want your damn sources .. don't fucking argue with me |
| 15:50.49 | blondie | :> |
| 15:50.52 | abrotman | terr: i want to see YOUR sources .. yu're asking us for help .. i want to see your sources .. why are you arguing? |
| 15:50.56 | hello1234 | hello I would like a tutorial on how to have anjuta to work on debian |
| 15:51.01 | mdupont | it gives me a kernel: ide1: I/O resource 0x170-0x177 not free. |
| 15:51.03 | abrotman | hello1234: are you on testing? |
| 15:51.15 | hello1234 | testing? |
| 15:51.16 | azeem | terr: paste the content of /etc/apt/sources.list to a pastebin, please |
| 15:51.17 | terr | abrotman: you have given me an idea however. I'll write some code adn see if my proggies work properly! |
| 15:51.18 | azeem | !paster |
| 15:51.18 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 15:51.19 | abrotman | hello1234: etch |
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| 15:51.23 | mdupont | in the new kernel, and on the old kernel ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15 |
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| 15:51.41 | azeem | terr: abrotman is not talking about source code |
| 15:51.46 | terr | azeem: I didn't understand the request I guess. |
| 15:51.52 | terr | hang on. |
| 15:51.56 | azeem | yeah, the term is ambigous |
| 15:52.15 | abrotman | silly me .. he upgraded .. i thought he'd understand :) |
| 15:52.17 | hello1234 | etch? |
| 15:52.23 | abrotman | hello1234: dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 15:52.35 | abrotman | and i thought i'd seen terr in here a few times before |
| 15:52.38 | terr | apt.conf.d sources.list sources.list.orgiginal sources.list.woody <--- which? |
| 15:52.40 | asg | azeem: if he was in #c, sources would be what he indicated. in #debian it isn't really ambiguous. |
| 15:52.52 | terr | abrotman: you have! |
| 15:52.59 | abrotman | terr: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 15:53.00 | azeem | asg: unless you didn't have to deal with sources.list before |
| 15:53.03 | hello1234 | <abrotman> I am not following you |
| 15:53.03 | terr | ok |
| 15:53.16 | abrotman | hello1234: i want the line that `dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1` gives you |
| 15:53.18 | dvm1981 | Strange the amplifier in 'XMMS' works only on music, on my avi video it will not work |
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| 15:53.24 | blondie | grrr <> |
| 15:53.26 | asg | azeem: he did a woody -> sarge upgrade, he dealt with them at least once. |
| 15:53.28 | hello1234 | ok |
| 15:53.39 | asg | azeem: but yes, there might have been a bit of confusion nontheless. |
| 15:53.45 | terr | abrotman: pop over to #pastebin |
| 15:53.59 | abrotman | terr: there is #flood for that :) |
| 15:54.02 | hello1234 | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 15:54.47 | abrotman | hello1234: did you `apt-get install anjuta` ? |
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| 15:55.04 | hello1234 | yes, but it is missing components |
| 15:55.32 | abrotman | what's the error ? |
| 15:56.40 | hello1234 | jeanseb@jeanseb:~$ dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 15:56.40 | hello1234 | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
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| 15:57.39 | hello1234 | **warning**. I am going to run 'configure' with no parameter (when creating a C/C++ console application) |
| 15:58.15 | hello1234 | autopoint *** cvs program not found |
| 15:58.21 | resiak | !installit |
| 15:58.21 | dpkg | *** NEWS FLASH! Your box does not come with every app, tool and utility known to debiankind installed already. If you find that the program you've been told to use isn't there, install it. Also ask me about <search>. |
| 15:58.21 | abrotman | oh .. i thought it wasn't installing correctly .. |
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| 15:58.44 | abrotman | terr: use #flood if you don't mind |
| 15:59.02 | hello1234 | no: error: the project was not successfully auto generated. Please run autogen.sh manually |
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| 15:59.43 | duck` | Is there any known deb package for mod_throttle ? |
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| 15:59.46 | hello1234 | autoheader warnings |
| 15:59.51 | dvs | Good day |
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| 16:00.20 | hello1234 | makefile.am:6 required directory ./intl does not exist |
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| 16:01.13 | hello1234 | config.status: error: cannot find input file intl/makefile.in |
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| 16:01.15 | sobersabre | hi |
| 16:01.20 | TriKster-Abacus | good day debian people of earth |
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| 16:01.31 | TriKster-Abacus | wow, electricsheep is pretty cool |
| 16:01.51 | sobersabre | what can I run on an old laptop with 8MB of RAM ? |
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| 16:02.29 | hello1234 | jeanseb@jeanseb:~$ dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 |
| 16:02.29 | hello1234 | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 16:02.31 | ke6isf | sobersabre: DOS. |
| 16:02.34 | abrotman | sobersabre: you mean ... 'what can i install' .. you might have to start with potato . .then go to woody |
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| 16:02.49 | hello1234 | abrotman? |
| 16:02.55 | paulswm | sobersabre: Nothing with X |
| 16:03.09 | sobersabre | X - not required.. abrotman I do have potato CDs somewhere... |
| 16:03.16 | abrotman | hello1234: i don't use anjuta for C devel |
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| 16:03.29 | abrotman | hello1234: and it seems more like you're having a usage problem .. not an installation problem |
| 16:03.32 | ke6isf | !tell hello -about flood |
| 16:03.38 | ke6isf | !tell hello1234 -about flood |
| 16:03.54 | hello1234 | abrotman: what do you use? |
| 16:04.09 | abrotman | hello1234: vi/vim .. like a normal person :) |
| 16:04.10 | dvm1981 | There is a problem with 'amsynth' after installing it i would run it. The first time 'amsynth' runs, he must copy a config file what it normally automatically must do, but he give a error |
| 16:04.14 | sobersabre | abrotman initially it is 'what can i install |
| 16:04.15 | sobersabre | ' |
| 16:04.18 | paulswm | :medal abrotman |
| 16:04.21 | paulswm | !medal abrotman |
| 16:04.24 | dvm1981 | i pastebin it ... |
| 16:04.24 | sobersabre | but eventually - what can I run. |
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| 16:04.25 | paulswm | :( |
| 16:04.27 | hello1234 | abrotman: you're a dork |
| 16:04.35 | paulswm | Sorry abrotman, that didn't come out right |
| 16:04.38 | ke6isf | !start an editor war |
| 16:04.38 | dpkg | vim bites |
| 16:04.39 | abrotman | hello1234: saidly .. i am :) |
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| 16:04.59 | hello1234 | LOL |
| 16:05.15 | sobersabre | hello1234 if you have 2GB of memory why won't you try eclipse ? |
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| 16:05.17 | dvm1981 | or just here, two line |
| 16:05.22 | dvm1981 | launching editor now, please set config file up for your system |
| 16:05.22 | dvm1981 | cp: cannot stat `/usr/share/amsSnth/rc': No such file or directory |
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| 16:05.57 | dvm1981 | there is an error in the path so it give a bug ? |
| 16:06.05 | abrotman | good job .. you scared off paul again! |
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| 16:06.27 | sobersabre | abrotman who scared paul ? |
| 16:06.33 | abrotman | sobersabre: you! |
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| 16:06.43 | belkin | is there any dpkg msg about kde desktop ? |
| 16:07.12 | dvm1981 | there is an s to mush in the path |
| 16:07.13 | dvm1981 | ? |
| 16:07.31 | abrotman | belkin: what about it ? |
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| 16:08.14 | belkin | abrotman want to install a kde desktop . and when i run " tasksel " it prompts to debian software install " |
| 16:08.25 | abrotman | apt-get install kde |
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| 16:08.49 | belkin | its that it ? |
| 16:08.50 | beardy | belkin: /msg dpkg install kde |
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| 16:09.41 | belkin | cheers |
| 16:09.50 | belkin | what about the x driver ? |
| 16:10.12 | belkin | what driver should i choice ? |
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| 16:10.31 | belkin | i just install " apt-get install discover read-edid mdetect && dpkg --force-depends -P xserver-xfree86 && apt-get install xserver-xfree86 " |
| 16:10.40 | dvm1981 | http://pastebin.com/505427 |
| 16:10.43 | belkin | and it faild loading the x server driver |
| 16:10.55 | dvm1981 | i have paste it the, its in Stable |
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| 16:11.26 | terr | while that update is going on... maybe someone can help me set up access for "tar" to a remote machine wiht a tape drive on it... |
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| 16:12.35 | beardy | belkin: What graphics card do you have? |
| 16:12.57 | terr | info pages say that it will use say rsh and some other options. I run sshd. |
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| 16:13.37 | beardy | belkin: You need to configure X, and select a video driver that works for your card. |
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| 16:13.42 | beardy | !drxx belkin |
| 16:13.42 | dpkg | belkin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 16:15.59 | ke6isf | terr: There's an option for remote tape server, are you looking at that? |
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| 16:16.50 | joni_ | in witch file i can specify static ip? |
| 16:17.11 | bibe | joni_ : man interfaces |
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| 16:18.03 | terr | ke6isf: yes |
| 16:18.17 | terr | I[m looking at dmesg adn there is something really weird heer. |
| 16:18.21 | terr | what is st0? |
| 16:18.31 | terr | that has to be scsi tape 0. |
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| 16:19.41 | AciD | anybody on debian unstable having switched to kde 3.5 have problems with kadressbook being in read only mode ? and if yes, did you solve that problem ? |
| 16:19.48 | joni_ | bibe: thank you |
| 16:20.17 | terr | any ideas what this msg is? |
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| 16:20.31 | terr | ATAPI device hdc: |
| 16:20.31 | terr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.31 | terr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.31 | terr | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:20.31 | terr | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:20.57 | ke6isf | !tell terr -about flood |
| 16:21.04 | bibe | joni_ : no problem |
| 16:21.14 | larard | Hi. I was to change the size of the virtual consoles (^Alt-F1, etc). I changed the fontsize using vga=791 in the kernel boot options. This works great until the install package 'console-tools' goes and chagnes it back. I can't find any documentation on the tool and how to tell it to do the right thing. |
| 16:21.20 | larard | Anyone?! |
| 16:21.38 | terr | any ideas? I've never seen that b4 |
| 16:22.01 | Tchiak | patience my young apprentices it's 10 am in the morning.. most of us haven't even had a decent cup of coffee yet |
| 16:22.08 | xchg | terr: 55 is a mode select failure |
| 16:22.18 | terr | what does this mean? VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0) |
| 16:22.19 | sobersabre | is there something like hardware compatibility matrix with minimal requirements at distrowatch ? |
| 16:22.47 | xchg | terr: ide or scsi ? in case of ide you probally have issues with udma |
| 16:23.01 | terr | what is a mode "3c"? |
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| 16:23.35 | terr | xchg: says device ide1(22.0) that has to be the ide disc drive. |
| 16:24.08 | xchg | terr: 3C look rather MMC command "Read buffer" |
| 16:24.27 | terr | xchg: how did you know "55" is a mode select? |
| 16:24.45 | xchg | terr: have a lot of SCSI development in the past |
| 16:24.52 | xchg | terr: had i mean |
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| 16:25.38 | terr | xchq I have quite a few of those logged in dmesg. |
| 16:25.48 | terr | xchg: ok - makes sense. |
| 16:25.51 | xchg | terr: just past it to pastebin.com |
| 16:26.00 | terr | its big. |
| 16:26.04 | terr | hang on. |
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| 16:26.14 | xchg | fsck..my fscked teeth. i feel i'll pull it off |
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| 16:26.37 | belkin | how do i change the apt server source |
| 16:26.39 | belkin | ? |
| 16:26.47 | belkin | the main one its busy |
| 16:26.50 | xchg | belkin: by editing /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 16:26.51 | dvs | !wayttd belkin |
| 16:26.51 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, belkin? |
| 16:27.01 | belkin | try to install kde |
| 16:27.10 | belkin | but i cannot because server its busy |
| 16:27.17 | pattern | anyone know an easy way to convert a png to postscript while scalining it to print on an 8.5"x11" sheet of paper at 600 dpi ? |
| 16:27.18 | belkin | thats what it says |
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| 16:27.53 | beardy | Tchiak: heard of timezones? |
| 16:28.24 | xchg | pattern: there was a tool called bmeps |
| 16:28.30 | xchg | pattern: it can do such things |
| 16:28.37 | beardy | pattern: imagemagick, if it supports postscript, I don't know if it does. |
| 16:28.40 | Tchiak | no is that a new type of waffle beardy? |
| 16:28.58 | ke6isf | belkin: run apt-setup |
| 16:29.04 | beardy | Tchiak: Yeah, it goes great together with tea. |
| 16:29.15 | Tchiak | sweet i'll have to try it sometime |
| 16:29.17 | pattern | thanks xchg & beardy :) |
| 16:29.22 | xchg | np :) |
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| 16:30.04 | belkin | ke6isf thank you |
| 16:30.30 | belkin | does really no onw knows how to setup xserver ? |
| 16:30.39 | abrotman | belkin: what DM ? |
| 16:30.58 | xchg | belkin: apt-get install xserver-xorg |
| 16:30.59 | usn_work | good evening |
| 16:31.07 | abrotman | belkin: kde / gnome ? |
| 16:31.14 | abrotman | xchg: not enough .. not even close |
| 16:31.25 | joni_ | how do i now "restart" my connection. i have made changes to /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 16:31.34 | ke6isf | xchg: That's not what he's trying to do. |
| 16:32.00 | xchg | ke6isf: and what a problem with his xserver? |
| 16:32.05 | xchg | stable / unstable, btw? |
| 16:32.12 | drizzd_ | joni_: ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 16:32.14 | abrotman | it doesn't matter .. you're still wrong |
| 16:32.16 | ke6isf | joni_: assuming it's 'eth0', 'ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0' |
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| 16:32.20 | terr | xchg: posted: http://pastebin.com/505477 |
| 16:32.23 | beardy | joni_: '/etc/init.d/networking restart' should work, if it doesn't bring up your interface(s) again, reconfigure. |
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| 16:32.55 | abrotman | belkin: do you prefer gnome or kde ? |
| 16:32.55 | joni_ | thx |
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| 16:33.12 | xchg | terr: hdparm -d0 /dev/hdc |
| 16:33.17 | ke6isf | xchg: Near as I can tell, belkin is asking for apt help, not x server help. And yes, for what it's worth. |
| 16:33.20 | xchg | terr: should help for a while |
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| 16:33.24 | terr | xchg: I posted a bug report to #debian but I didn't realise it was THAT serious. Also I didn't know where to post it. |
| 16:33.52 | terr | xchg: no - its due to trying to write to /dev/st0 |
| 16:34.11 | terr | xchg: what does -d0 do? |
| 16:34.18 | xchg | ke6isf: belkin does really no onw knows how to setup xserver ? just this post made me confuse, doesn't matter |
| 16:34.24 | abrotman | hdparm doesnt' affect scsi devices |
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| 16:34.38 | xchg | terr: since what hdX is scsi ? |
| 16:34.49 | xchg | sorry, it was for abrotman |
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| 16:34.58 | abrotman | you said it was st0 |
| 16:35.04 | belkin | abrotman kde |
| 16:35.06 | abrotman | that's a tape device |
| 16:35.14 | abrotman | belkin: apt-get install kde x-window-system kdm |
| 16:35.17 | xchg | ke6isf: it'll dumb a controller by swithing dma off |
| 16:35.20 | abrotman | belkin: that will get TONS of stuff |
| 16:35.28 | xchg | # |
| 16:35.28 | xchg | ATAPI device hdc: |
| 16:35.28 | xchg | # |
| 16:35.28 | xchg | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:35.36 | StR | help: If I have a file which is a list of packages, how do I install them? something like apt-get install <pkgs.lst |
| 16:35.40 | xchg | huh, sorry |
| 16:35.46 | xchg | so it's hdc, as the logs say |
| 16:36.08 | ke6isf | StR: Yep. It won't install packages that are already installed, and install the ones that aren't. |
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| 16:36.30 | terr | xchg: it looks to me that there were so many SCSI I/O's that the other device drivers were starved for CPU cycles. I had the KB driver doing krasy things - dropping chars adn duplicating them all over the place. Also the SCSI driver reported bogus error messages to the tape drive. |
| 16:36.31 | Roldyx | hi |
| 16:36.40 | belkin | abrotman well i dont want them all |
| 16:36.51 | abrotman | belkin: all what? |
| 16:36.57 | ke6isf | StR: That however assumes that your file contains ONLY the names of the packages you want. |
| 16:37.02 | abrotman | belkin: apt-get install kde-core x-window-system-core kdm |
| 16:37.04 | StR | ke6isf: nvalid response. Please enter a valid command.... |
| 16:37.06 | xchg | terr: and what's the scsi host ? |
| 16:37.07 | drizzd_ | StR: apt-get install `cat pkgs.lst` |
| 16:37.09 | belkin | <abrotman> belkin: that will get TONS of stuff |
| 16:37.12 | terr | xchg: when i looked intto it I founnd if I used -b 1024 it solved the problems and everything works - but the errors are still preesent - I suuspect its a timming issue |
| 16:37.18 | abrotman | belkin: use that second command |
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| 16:37.20 | xchg | terr: some sort of adaptec ? |
| 16:37.22 | terr | aadaptech 2940 |
| 16:37.45 | xchg | terr: look, it's a dumb question, but do you terminate devices propertly ? |
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| 16:37.48 | Roldyx | i need install debian on a disk with Serial ATA |
| 16:37.49 | ke6isf | StR: stick the file on pastebin if what drizzd_ suggested doesn't work. |
| 16:37.53 | terr | xchg: yees. |
| 16:38.19 | Roldyx | but.. is possible it |
| 16:38.21 | Roldyx | ?? |
| 16:38.31 | belkin | abrotman so i shouldnt use " apt-get install xserver-xorg any more " |
| 16:38.34 | StR | drizzd_: thanks.. that worked ;) |
| 16:38.35 | terr | xchg: I know enuf about SCSI tthat I run both single ended and differential and I have my own cabling system |
| 16:38.36 | ke6isf | !sata |
| 16:38.37 | dpkg | Ideally you want Jeff Garzik's libata patch against 2.4.x. See http://lwn.net/Articles/52488/ . For a netinst w/libata, see http://oregonstate.edu/~kveton/debian/ to make one with a custom kernel, or http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Hardware/sata.html for more options. ("You can tell the pioneers by the arrows in their backs."), or use a 2.6 kernel for less pain, or you must enable CONFIG_SATA and your SATA driver for this to work |
| 16:38.44 | abrotman | belkin: apt-get install kde-core x-window-system-core kdm |
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| 16:38.59 | belkin | abrotman yeah got you , ok thank man |
| 16:38.59 | abrotman | belkin: no .. xchg doesn't know what he's talking about .. that command won't help you |
| 16:39.08 | belkin | ok |
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| 16:39.56 | terr | xchg: what woudl this means? VFS: Disk change detected on device ide1(22,0) |
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| 16:41.37 | terr | abrotman: its still running. |
| 16:41.55 | abrotman | terr: good |
| 16:41.59 | POVaddct | terr: the disk (probably cd or dvd) was changed on device /dev/hdc (major/minor number 22:0) |
| 16:42.00 | xchg | terr: wait a bit, i'm trying to decode sense output. about ide1 - is hdc is cdrom ? |
| 16:42.58 | terr | xchg: I do not think it is the cddrom. It should be the hard drive. |
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| 16:43.15 | dvs | terr: Secondary master |
| 16:43.33 | POVaddct | terr: cat /proc/ide/hdc/media |
| 16:43.37 | xchg | terr: pheh, too lot of sense data for me. http://www.arkeia.com/resources/scsi_rsc.html#SenseKey - if you want to decode raw output |
| 16:43.56 | xchg | xchg: it tell that recoverable error occpued |
| 16:44.07 | terr | io:/home/backups# cat /proc/ide/hdc/media |
| 16:44.07 | terr | cdrom |
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| 16:44.29 | POVaddct | terr: so /dev/hdc _is_ a cd/dvd driver |
| 16:44.31 | POVaddct | drive |
| 16:44.54 | terr | has to be. |
| 16:45.05 | terr | That is my CD burner. I wasn''t using it. |
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| 16:50.22 | iank | Howdy. php is complaining it can't find imagecreate(), but php4-gd is installed. Whats up? |
| 16:50.42 | terr | I understand what that dmesg file is all about now. |
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| 16:52.31 | raz0 | iank, And you've restarted apache? |
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| 16:52.50 | iank | Its been installed for a long time ;] (and phpinfo says its present) |
| 16:53.01 | iank | It was working before, now its broke =S |
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| 16:53.50 | joergd | uh oh! "No space left on device" at http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki (FAQ in topic) |
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| 16:55.41 | ugenn | anyone has a link to a deb containing the sisctrl utlity? |
| 16:55.59 | joergd | anyone knows a howto describing how to build a debian kernel patch? |
| 16:56.00 | djp | can bittorrent only handle a certain amount of torrents at a time? it seems to keep crashing once a reach roughly 10 or so torrents |
| 16:56.16 | joergd | preferably based on some kickstarter like e.g. dh_make |
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| 16:57.04 | atp | hey folks. non-newbie running a custom compiled 2.6.13.4 and Debian Etch on an IMB Thinkpad X40 laptop with an Intel made AC'97 Audio Controller lost sound during an upgrade some months back. looking for some help in getting it working again. this system uses udev (although it's been held back in upgrades for some time now). |
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| 16:58.27 | abrotman | probably let it through .. or try a debian stock kernel |
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| 16:58.57 | atp | abrotman: stock kernel's not an option, i patch my kernel for some stuff |
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| 16:59.13 | terr | ok apt-get update is complete - what now? |
| 16:59.16 | atp | abrotman: at the time it died someone mentioned it might be udev related... you think its safe to let udev upgrade? |
| 16:59.24 | atp | abrotman: be upgraded rather? |
| 16:59.48 | wuming | I'm using ssh tunnle to access a remote debian file server, in my local lan, can multipul workstation remote access file server at the same time? |
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| 17:02.02 | abrotman | atp: can you manually load the modules ? |
| 17:02.33 | atp | abrotman: the sound modules? |
| 17:02.58 | _Sam-- | can anyone point me in the right direction...im not sure what got changed [apparently something in my initrd] but when i try to boot i get pivot_root no such file...if i mount the initrd, pivot_root is definitely there |
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| 17:03.09 | luca7 | hi all |
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| 17:03.54 | djp | my screen scrambles with an error that starts, File "/usr/lib/python2.3/threading.py", line 442, in __bootstrap... when i run btlaunchmanycurses .; from bash. does anyone know why this is happening? i am running the package from stable under debian 3.1 sarge. |
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| 17:04.59 | terr | abrotman: is it necessary to reboot after a dist-update? |
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| 17:06.09 | abrotman | terr: most likely |
| 17:06.10 | abrotman | atp: yes |
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| 17:06.16 | Kernel_core | hi all |
| 17:06.38 | terr | abrotman: if the lib has been replaced - simply reloading the application should link into the new lib. |
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| 17:06.54 | abrotman | terr: i reboot for libc and kernel .. |
| 17:07.08 | Kernel_core | I installed mysql.5.0 , and after that I uninstalled that , now I want to install mysql 4.1 , I get this error : The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 17:07.11 | Kernel_core | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.11 | Kernel_core | E: Broken packages |
| 17:07.16 | terr | abrotman: if the problem is in a lib then it is probably in glibc |
| 17:07.28 | abrotman | terr: so what does that tell you ? |
| 17:07.33 | atp | abrotman: no, it looks like i built this kernel with the sound drivers non-modular. i'm beginning to wonder if that was a smart idea, although looking in my /lib/modules directory it seems i never built them as modules |
| 17:07.44 | atp | abrotman: and i most definitely had working sound before |
| 17:07.58 | abrotman | atp: maybe something else is blocking the device? |
| 17:08.04 | Kernel_core | any suggestion ? |
| 17:08.09 | terr | abrotman: I doubt the kernel uses glibc but I suspect most everything else does. I always statically link tho. Hmm |
| 17:08.15 | crashbg[work] | can anyone advice me for a gnome clipboard manager? |
| 17:08.19 | Daedalus_ | Kernel_core: Did you purge or just uninstall? |
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| 17:08.37 | Kernel_core | Daedalus: I : dpkg --purge .... yea |
| 17:08.40 | kartoo | !dpkg kde |
| 17:08.41 | dpkg | hmm... kde is a desktop environment based on the Qt toolkit. See http://www.kde.org for release news and other details, or not a window manager, or ask your questions about it in #debian-kde |
| 17:08.52 | terr | abrotman: I re-loaded privoxy - I still see defunct processes |
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| 17:09.06 | atp | abrotman: well, stuff like /dev/sndstat seems to be there |
| 17:09.14 | atp | abrotman: and behaving as intended |
| 17:09.19 | Quickimaster | hello |
| 17:09.21 | beardy | wtf was kartoo.. |
| 17:09.36 | abrotman | kartoo is a search engine |
| 17:09.40 | abrotman | but he was here yesterday |
| 17:09.48 | abrotman | terr: you statically link ? |
| 17:09.51 | terr | abrotman: I don't wnat to reboot now - I have too damn much stuff open. |
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| 17:09.54 | abrotman | atp: using alsa ? |
| 17:10.01 | atp | abrotman: yep |
| 17:10.01 | abrotman | terr: whatever . it's not my machine .. do as you wish |
| 17:10.03 | terr | abrotman: usually I just use defaults. |
| 17:10.05 | Daedalus_ | Kernel_core: Do you have GUI capabilities? Synaptic might give you a more helpful error message |
| 17:10.29 | terr | abrotman: Perhaps glibc by default is dynamic - it should be I think. |
| 17:10.30 | abrotman | atp: if you start alsamixer .. nothing ? |
| 17:10.36 | Daedalus_ | Kernel_core: Or, at least, it might be easier to figure out what it's trying to do |
| 17:10.41 | atp | abrotman: i have a /dev/snd as well... i'm not extremely familiar with the sound devices nowadays... i haven't really needed to muck with sound since potato days... alsamixer works |
| 17:10.44 | terr | abrotman: I never checked. I statically link my stuff |
| 17:10.53 | atp | abrotman: but when i play, no sound |
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| 17:11.15 | abrotman | atp: does sound work for root ? |
| 17:11.25 | Kernel_core | Daedalus_: any solution ? |
| 17:11.42 | wuming | Can two workstation in local Lan ssh tunnel same remote server same time? |
| 17:11.52 | atp | abrotman: haven't tried it, but i'm in the necessary groups, it would surprise me if it did |
| 17:11.57 | atp | abrotman: let me check ok |
| 17:12.04 | terr | wuming: should be no problem |
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| 17:12.57 | terr | ato - I wrote upa checklist for sound adn generic SCSI in the "grip" project in sourceforge. Woody was all F8ded up |
| 17:13.05 | atp | abrotman: that's a negative |
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| 17:13.47 | terr | atp - if you go to sourceforge and pull up grip then check under documentation update suggestions by Terrell larson - it might have something for you |
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| 17:14.00 | abrotman | atp: anyways .. |
| 17:14.12 | abrotman | wtf does scsi have to do with his sound issue ? |
| 17:14.40 | abrotman | atp: i wonder if the alsa tools that you now have installed don't work with your older kernel... |
| 17:14.40 | terr | abrotman: its did then because generic scsi was used for the cd IIR |
| 17:14.54 | atp | abrotman: 2.6.13.4 is old? |
| 17:14.55 | abrotman | for the CD? .. his sound is broken |
| 17:14.57 | terr | abrotman: I was getting things set up for grip. |
| 17:15.01 | abrotman | atp: are you running unstable ? |
| 17:15.05 | atp | abrotman: etch |
| 17:15.12 | abrotman | etch only has 2.6.12 |
| 17:15.47 | atp | i know, it's a custom build (i said that i think) |
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| 17:15.52 | joergd | anyone knows a howto describing how to build a debian kernel patch? |
| 17:15.53 | joergd | preferably based on some kickstarter like e.g. dh_make |
| 17:16.01 | abrotman | if the drivers aren't modular .. i doubt udev would affect it .. unless it's not loading a driver sound depends on |
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| 17:16.36 | azeem | joergd: best to just look at a couple of existing kernel patch packages |
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| 17:17.24 | slummer | How do I install all of the packages I have on my old system to my new system? I have done `dpkg --get-selections > debs.txt` on the old system and `dpkg --set-selections < debs.txt` on the new bare-bones system...now what? |
| 17:17.27 | atp | abrotman: yeah. well, i'm looking at some guy's "installing debian on a thinkpad x40" site, and he has a whole host of stuff he puts in modprobe.d/alsa to make sound work. obviously, none of that would have any bearing on a non-modular kernel. i wonder if maybe i should build it modular |
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| 17:17.52 | abrotman | atp: how many patches do you have in your kernel ? |
| 17:17.57 | joergd | azeem: that would have been my last option. I hoped for a more advanced method (like dh_make) |
| 17:18.04 | atp | abrotman: just two, i think |
| 17:18.05 | abrotman | !alsa checklist |
| 17:18.08 | abrotman | !alsa-checklist |
| 17:18.08 | dpkg | from memory, alsa-checklist is 1) run alsaconf 2) add your user to the audio group 3) use alsamixer and make sure levels are up and it is unmuted 4) arts or esound stopped? 5) OSS modules unloaded? 6) speakers on? 7) does `cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp` work for root? |
| 17:18.16 | azeem | joergd: few people would consider dh_make "advanced" :) |
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| 17:19.21 | joergd | azeem: ;) ok, but it gives you a somewhat useable start off for new packages |
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| 17:19.58 | Kernel_core | I installed mysql.5.0 , and after that I uninstalled that , now I want to install mysql 4.1 , I get this error : The following packages have unmet dependencies: mysql-server-4.1: Depends: mysql-server-5.0 but it is not going to be installed "E: Broken packages" |
| 17:20.07 | Tallia1Kubuntu | hi there. |
| 17:20.08 | Tallia1Kubuntu | is there a way to obtain at boot time a link of a folder of the fily system to a ftp folder? |
| 17:20.22 | abrotman | fily? |
| 17:20.25 | abrotman | oh .. file |
| 17:20.29 | Tallia1Kubuntu | is there a way to obtain at boot time a link of a folder of the fily system to a ftp folder? |
| 17:20.38 | Tallia1Kubuntu | sorry, wrong sentence :P |
| 17:20.44 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: did you ask #kubuntu ? |
| 17:20.47 | Tallia1Kubuntu | like the folder /home/andrea/ftp contains the data of sftp:/myftp.org |
| 17:20.50 | Tallia1Kubuntu | yes, no answer |
| 17:20.52 | Kernel_core | any solution ? |
| 17:21.07 | abrotman | Tallia1Kubuntu: well .. i guess you'll have to wait there .. ubuntu and kubuntu have thier own support channels |
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| 17:21.20 | Tallia1Kubuntu | it's not about ubuntu... |
| 17:21.33 | Tallia1Kubuntu | i am only asking if is there a way in debian to do it.. |
| 17:21.37 | abrotman | it's not about Debian .. that's very obvious |
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| 17:21.49 | abrotman | and if i were you .. i'd ask google |
| 17:22.10 | Tallia1Kubuntu | do you know how to do it? |
| 17:22.24 | abrotman | i don't .. i'd ask google .. |
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| 17:25.22 | qwy | i made a mistake installing a certain module (cdrom). ide_cd and sr_mod use it. i tried rmmod -f cdrom but it says "resource temporarily unavailable". how can i remove it and "redirect" sr_mod to ide_cd? |
| 17:25.49 | abrotman | don't use rmmod |
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| 17:26.06 | abrotman | thingfish: tell him ... don't use rmmod! |
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| 17:26.16 | thingfish | don't do it!!! |
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| 17:26.23 | abrotman | !rmmod |
| 17:26.24 | thingfish | for the love of god. |
| 17:26.28 | abrotman | oh bah |
| 17:26.33 | abrotman | it's for insmod .. i forgot |
| 17:26.45 | qwy | oh. |
| 17:26.49 | Daedalus_ | what's wrong with rmmod? |
| 17:27.46 | abrotman | same thing that's wrong with insmod |
| 17:27.46 | gtkspert_ | can anyone help me? i cant get toolchain to work. gcc errors out during building |
| 17:28.10 | Daedalus_ | qwy: IIRC, you have to remove dependent modules first, before you remove that module. |
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| 17:28.14 | luca7 | why does it take so long to start the x server or reboot ? and why it shows lots of crazy colours before x server start ? is there anyway to check if the installtion its ok ? |
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| 17:28.31 | luca7 | i might select the wrong x server driver for my video hardware |
| 17:28.39 | abrotman | !tell skitzo7701 about root |
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| 17:28.56 | qwy | ah okay |
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| 17:29.25 | Daedalus_ | abrotman:... insmod vs modprobe makes sense... rmmod doesn't need to do fancy dependency checking, etc. |
| 17:29.49 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: if not rmmod, then what else then? |
| 17:29.51 | abrotman | you don't think so ? |
| 17:30.08 | abrotman | Daedalus_: modprobe -r ? |
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| 17:31.14 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: I don't. If there's a dependency chain, rmmod will throw an error. Else, all is well. *shrugs* I guess it depends upon how fussy you want to get. |
| 17:31.42 | abrotman | Daedalus_: unless i'm mistaken .. if you use modprobe -r .. and the module has dependencies .. it will unload the chain |
| 17:31.45 | Daedalus_ | abrotman: I don't like the concept of having a utility remove modules that I haven't specified explicitly. |
| 17:31.58 | abrotman | Daedalus_: you should know what you're doing :) |
| 17:32.17 | Daedalus_ | Fair |
| 17:32.33 | lanchow | Q: can anyone help me about a problem with an external drive please ? /sbin/fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1, SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code = 0x8000002, Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 4 |
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| 17:33.29 | gtkspert_ | anyone? |
| 17:33.56 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_: you're compiling something? |
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| 17:34.28 | gtkspert_ | im trying to build the arm-linux toolchain from this manual: http://people.debian.org/~debacle/cross/ |
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| 17:35.03 | gtkspert_ | gcc errors out. |
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| 17:35.18 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_:stab in the dark, but perhaps a different flavor of gcc would help? |
| 17:35.56 | gtkspert_ | so how do i go about doing that |
| 17:36.07 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_:paste error in #flood first I guess... |
| 17:36.13 | gtkspert_ | ok |
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| 17:38.09 | gtkspert_ | dpkg-buildpackage failed! |
| 17:38.14 | gtkspert_ | lol |
| 17:38.16 | gtkspert_ | woops |
| 17:38.21 | darsie | hi! I'm installing debian with an old sarge netinstaller. It seems I need to quit the installer to resolve the e2fsprogs loop problem. Can I restart the installer when I quit it now? How? |
| 17:38.43 | gtkspert_ | unistd.h: No such file or directory -- this appears to be the main problem... |
| 17:38.54 | dvs | !find unistd.h sarge |
| 17:39.14 | sp- | should be in /usr/include |
| 17:39.20 | sp- | unistd.h is a default header file |
| 17:39.29 | gtkspert_ | its for an arm-linux cross compile... |
| 17:39.36 | sp- | oh, for a cross compile |
| 17:39.41 | sp- | now that sounds more interesting |
| 17:39.45 | gtkspert_ | it changes everything! |
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| 17:39.54 | sp- | however, unistd.h is probably part of glibc |
| 17:40.00 | gtkspert_ | yes, it is |
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| 17:40.25 | gtkspert_ | and i've done: tpkg-install-libc arm-linux |
| 17:41.03 | sp- | hum, I'm unsure what you exactly need there, but I'd manually compile glibc for arm |
| 17:41.13 | gtkspert_ | i see... |
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| 17:41.37 | opnsrc | Abiword doesn't spell check, how do i make it spell check? |
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| 17:41.42 | gtkspert_ | well, just to clear up, gcc errors out when running debuild -uc -us |
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| 17:42.42 | gtkspert_ | so, last question which version of glibc should i use? |
| 17:42.59 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'unistd.h' (6 of 44): (/usr/include/brickos/unistd.h) in devel/brickos ;; (/usr/share/cscc/include/unistd.h) in devel/pnetc ;; (/usr/include/diet/unistd.h) in libdevel/dietlibc-dev ;; (/usr/include/calc/have_unistd.h) in devel/apcalc-dev ;; (/usr/lib/perl5/Tk/pTk/compat/unistd.h) in perl/perl-tk ;; (/usr/include/ptlib/msos/unistd.h) in libdevel/libpt-dev. |
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| 17:43.28 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_: hrmmm |
| 17:43.47 | gtkspert_ | im doing: apt-get source libc6 |
| 17:43.51 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_: you need to figure out why it can't find unistd.h and pthread.h |
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| 17:44.42 | gtkspert_ | yes |
| 17:44.47 | Daedalus_ | gtkspert_: which version? Uh, good question. I'm not sure |
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| 17:45.03 | gtkspert_ | *pulls imaginary goatee |
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| 17:46.15 | setog3 | where is the conf for default smtp host for reportbug , don't find anything corresponding in /etc/reportbug |
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| 17:46.49 | opnsrc | Abiword doesn't spell check, how do I fix it? |
| 17:47.21 | abrotman | install aspell or ispell probably |
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| 17:48.57 | Coweater | opnsrc: aspell |
| 17:49.20 | gtkspert_ | oh wait may have found it |
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| 17:49.57 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 17:50.06 | gtkspert_ | should /usr/arm-linux/arm-linux-gnu point to the includes? |
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| 17:51.18 | eFfeM | hi, just tried to install dbus; however apt-get install dbus-1 refers to dbus-1-utils and apt-get install dbus-1-utils complains about a missing dependency for dbus-1 |
| 17:51.24 | eFfeM | seems like a catch 22 situation for me |
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| 17:51.37 | eFfeM | is this a known issue or is there a std way to resolve this |
| 17:52.03 | mere | i have a similar problem, only that there's several dependency errors, with rosegarden4 |
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| 17:52.24 | lanchow | Q: can anyone help me about a problem with an external drive please ? /sbin/fsck.ext3: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/sda1, SCSI error : <0 0 0 0> return code = 0x8000002, Buffer I/O error on device sda1, logical block 4 |
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| 17:53.12 | Daedalus_ | eFfeM:apt-get install dbus dbus-1-utils |
| 17:53.44 | Daedalus_ | lanchow: do you know the drive to be good? |
| 17:54.07 | Daedalus_ | lanchow: My first guess would be that the drive is dead in some way |
| 17:54.08 | lanchow | Daedalus_: yes it always works |
| 17:54.13 | eFfeM | Daedalus_, E: Couldn't find package dbus |
| 17:54.28 | gtkspert_ | lanchow: probably over heated... they all do that!! |
| 17:54.49 | eFfeM | and if i replace dbus with dbus-1, it says pckg not available |
| 17:54.57 | eFfeM | this is on sid by the way |
| 17:54.57 | lanchow | well, i use it 24/24 .. |
| 17:54.59 | abrotman | or the drive is actually dying |
| 17:55.00 | darsie | apt-get update |
| 17:55.50 | darsie | :) |
| 17:55.50 | darsie | wrong chan |
| 17:55.52 | gtkspert_ | lol |
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| 17:55.52 | zane | hello |
| 17:56.06 | luca7 | Sound server informational message Error while initializing the sound driver: device /dev/dsp can't be opened (No such device) The sound server will continue, using the null output device. |
| 17:56.15 | luca7 | any ideea about this error ? |
| 17:56.32 | zane | Im having some trouble with my installation, Ive installed the ATI drivers for my Radeon 9550, and am incountering some dificulty trying to configure them for dual screen usage |
| 17:56.35 | mere | what could i do to solve dependencies problems that arise when trying to install a package? i am having some while trying to fetch rosegarden4... |
| 17:56.42 | gtkspert_ | luca7: you havent inserted the modules for you sound card |
| 17:56.53 | luca7 | how do i insert it ? |
| 17:57.23 | gtkspert_ | well, are you using alsa? and what sort of sound card do you have? |
| 17:57.41 | Daedalus_ | eFfem: erk apt-get install dbus-1 dbus-1-utils |
| 17:57.41 | Zane | Linux detects my second monitor, and i can move my mouse over to that area from the first screen, but the mouse cannot go very far into the monitor before it hits a boundry |
| 17:57.59 | Plague | hi all |
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| 17:58.13 | Zane | in clone mode I can see the display just fine on both monitors, the second however pans around instead of matching the resolution |
| 17:58.22 | luca7 | gtkspert_ well no alsa installed and no clue about my sound card ;) |
| 17:58.23 | harm1988 | how do i save and quit work in VI editor |
| 17:58.24 | Zane | much like a TV on a higher resolution then it can handle |
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| 17:58.33 | Plague | who want to play KBattleShip??? |
| 17:58.46 | eFfeM | Daedalus_, Package dbus-1 is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 17:58.46 | eFfeM | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 17:58.46 | eFfeM | is only available from another source |
| 17:58.47 | eFfeM | However the following packages replace it: |
| 17:58.47 | eFfeM | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:58.47 | gtkspert_ | heheheh, that sounds hard then... |
| 17:58.53 | Daedalus_ | eFfem: well, it might be breakage in sid. Or you might just neet to apt-get update |
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| 17:59.09 | eFfeM | sorry for flooding |
| 17:59.14 | luca7 | gtkspert_ just installed alsa now |
| 17:59.16 | gtkspert_ | type: lspci |
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| 17:59.22 | eFfeM | didn't know what the max line limit was |
| 17:59.24 | dvs | luca7: What kernel? |
| 17:59.25 | Zane | someone leave me a message when/if they can help me with my multimonitor problem, till then im going to keep plugging away at it |
| 17:59.29 | gtkspert_ | look for a multimedia device |
| 17:59.44 | luca7 | dvs 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 17:59.58 | dvs | luca7: apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2 |
| 18:00.06 | Daedalus_ | harm1988: :wq |
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| 18:00.23 | ThetaWave | hello |
| 18:00.31 | luca7 | gtkspert_ 0000:00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definition Audio Controller (rev 03) |
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| 18:00.38 | ThetaWave | Does anyone have an opinion about which automounter to install? |
| 18:00.49 | luca7 | dvs E: Couldn't find package alsa-modules-2.4.27-2 |
| 18:00.54 | dvs | luca7: apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 18:01.10 | Daedalus_ | ThetaWave: v4 unless you have problems with it. |
| 18:01.15 | gtkspert_ | i think dvs has you covered? |
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| 18:01.42 | luca7 | dvs ?? alsa-modules-2.4-386 - ALSA modules for kernel 2.4 on 386 |
| 18:01.55 | luca7 | gtkspert_ its that my sound card ..what now ? |
| 18:02.01 | gtkspert_ | the other person you're talking to |
| 18:02.31 | luca7 | yeah |
| 18:02.36 | luca7 | well i had to try everything |
| 18:02.37 | dvs | !info alsa-modules-2.4.27-386 |
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| 18:02.51 | gtkspert_ | dvs will sort you out... |
| 18:02.52 | dvs | !info alsa-modules-2.4.27-386 sarge |
| 18:02.52 | Zane | anyone here have experience with multiple monitors? |
| 18:02.56 | ThetaWave | There's am-utils, autofs, and there's autofs-ldap (I do have an LDAP server) |
| 18:02.56 | gtkspert_ | i need to sleep now... |
| 18:03.20 | ThetaWave | Daedalus_: v4 of which package? |
| 18:03.23 | luca7 | !info alsa-modules-2.4-386 |
| 18:03.25 | dpkg | alsa-modules-2.4-386: (ALSA modules for kernel 2.4 on 386), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.0.10+1 (sid), Packaged size: 4 kB, Installed size: 36 kB |
| 18:03.41 | dvs | luca7: just use "apt-get install alsa-modules-$(uname -r)" |
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| 18:04.01 | luca7 | dvs done |
| 18:04.05 | luca7 | dvs its that it ? |
| 18:04.11 | fran | Hi, what is the format of initrd that creates yaird? when I try to mount "mnt -o loop /boot/initrd /mnt" "ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: Dispositivo o recurso ocupado" |
| 18:04.13 | dvs | luca7: run alsaconf |
| 18:04.36 | Daedalus_ | ThetaWave: oh, I thought you meant in the kernel config. |
| 18:05.14 | Daedalus_ | !es |
| 18:05.14 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:05.20 | dvs | Back in a few... |
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| 18:05.45 | ThetaWave | Daedalus_: I just want to know which package I should install. I've gotten burned by installing an unpopular package before... |
| 18:06.24 | ThetaWave | Can anyone vouch for autofs-ldap? |
| 18:06.35 | Daedalus_ | ThetaWave: Yah, I hear you. I don't have the knowledge to answer that question though. |
| 18:06.36 | luca7 | dvs thank you |
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| 18:07.02 | opnsrc | Coweater, thanksHow would I get the newest version of Firefox? |
| 18:07.09 | ThetaWave | does anyone use an automounter? |
| 18:07.18 | luca7 | dvs any ideea now about my video hardware ? it takes to long to start the x server .. and it doesn show proper colours on start up |
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| 18:07.50 | Farris1 | Ok, here's a sticky one: We had an array failing, so I rsync'd all the data to a new one, then moved to a new array for all our machines. However, I rsynced several times before switching to the new server, and I didn't use --delete, so any files removed between rsyncs now exist again on the new array. The old array finally did kick the bucket, so I don't have it anymore. Can anyone think of a way to sort out the unneeded data that wasn' |
| 18:08.29 | dvs | luca7: Nope |
| 18:08.45 | luca7 | dvs ok cheers anyway |
| 18:09.16 | eye69 | Farris1: Hmmmmm. Could you use find with an mtime switch? Otherwise I can't think of a solution. |
| 18:09.53 | Farris1 | eye69: That was my initial idea... Just can't think of a reliable way to implement it |
| 18:10.20 | luca7 | dvs please tell me whats the name of the package that allows me to see the running services and also edit them like " boot on start up.. restart .. " gui one ? |
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| 18:11.23 | dvs | luca7: I don't know. I do it on the console. |
| 18:11.50 | Hool | man... i hate windows programmers.. at least some of them :/ |
| 18:11.59 | Daedalus_ | Farris1: I can't think of a foolproof method. Would it be possible to wave the white flag and turn it over to the users to sort out what files they need to delete again? |
| 18:12.01 | dvs | !hate Hool |
| 18:12.02 | dpkg | I hate Hool! |
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| 18:12.24 | luca7 | lol |
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| 18:13.55 | Farris1 | Daedalus_: If it were any other data, I'd say yes. But this was an IT-mandated move (and I *am* IT), and it involved cvs/bitkeeper repositories that are the core of our productivity here |
| 18:13.57 | luca7 | dvs something like " system-config-services " |
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| 18:14.55 | Daedalus_ | Farris1: oooog.... |
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| 18:16.20 | prout | hello, my crdom is locked. How do I unlock it? thanks |
| 18:16.42 | Coweater | do you have a disc mounted? |
| 18:16.49 | Gathond | prout: probably unoumt the disc |
| 18:16.55 | Daedalus_ | Farris1: wait... cvs et al keep metadata files about what's happened to all the files in their repos. So, according to that metadata, certain files should have been deleted... but because of the lack of --delete, they still exist |
| 18:16.57 | prout | well the cdrom is inside |
| 18:17.08 | prout | unmout failed |
| 18:17.27 | Gathond | prout: so fix that problem, then unmount it |
| 18:17.29 | dvs | prout: no "n" |
| 18:17.29 | sp- | with what kind of error message? |
| 18:17.30 | myr_ | Hi everybody ! |
| 18:17.31 | Hool | dvs: c'mone now ... try the BitTorrent downloader for windows and tell me you don't feel the same ;) |
| 18:17.36 | prout | device busy |
| 18:17.47 | Hool | there is a proper way and the wrong way to get donations.. |
| 18:17.49 | dvs | prout: get out of the /cdrom directory |
| 18:17.54 | myr_ | How can I avoid Debian to update grub/menu.lst everytime my kernel config changes ? |
| 18:17.58 | bizkit | prout: what's the mountpoint? fuser -k /dev/cdrom, lsof +D /mountpoint, then fix open pids and umount |
| 18:18.07 | dvs | Hool: Oh. Shareware. |
| 18:18.08 | luca7 | lease enter the video card's bus identifier. hmm enter what ? this is my card " 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04) " |
| 18:18.23 | Gathond | prout: so close whatever program that uses the cdrom data (being in the directory its mounted in is enough for it to not being unmountable) |
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| 18:18.41 | Hool | dvs: the thing is badly coded, full of bugs and has a nag screen (which leeds to a website with him holding a infant begging for dosh) |
| 18:19.00 | prout | I am out of the cdrom dir. but unmount fails |
| 18:19.14 | Hool | im not a total loon that hates windows *.* you know ;) |
| 18:19.25 | odla | i hate windows |
| 18:19.29 | Farris1 | Daedalus_: Well, I hope so... The main concern is bitkeeper, and I don't know enough about it to figure this out |
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| 18:20.29 | ma3x | hi |
| 18:20.33 | ma3x | can you help me with grub please? |
| 18:20.44 | ma3x | I've booted from the windows xp CD, and it erased my grub |
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| 18:20.54 | Daedalus_ | Farris1: I'm unfamiliar with bitkeeper. But I would hope that there's some sort of janitor functionality in it that can help you out. And you do have all weekend to hash this out before shat hits the fan |
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| 18:21.16 | ma3x | now I booted from the knoppix CD, and chrooted to my debian and did "grub-install /dev/hda" but it's returning: file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. |
| 18:21.20 | ma3x | How should I install grub?? |
| 18:21.24 | opnsrc | Where can I find the newest Mozilla firefox packages? |
| 18:21.53 | myr_ | ma3x>you should reinstall a working copy, from a livecd for instance |
| 18:21.53 | opnsrc | should I put http://ftp-mozilla.netscape.com/ in Synaptic?\ |
| 18:21.53 | Daedalus_ | ma3x: suck. If you had managed to copy your boot sectors before you installed windows, per the dual-boot howto, life would be easy. However.... |
| 18:22.18 | Daedalus_ | ma3x: You'll have to do something like myr_ suggested and boot from a liveCD/knoppix/etc and re-run the grub installer. |
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| 18:22.38 | ma3x | myr reinstall what , grub? |
| 18:23.01 | myr_ | max3> why don't you take your W33nXp Cd and torch it ? |
| 18:23.14 | Daedalus_ | ma3x: Oh... sorry.... typing without reading... Um, I had that same problem... I can't remember how I resolved it though. |
| 18:23.15 | ma3x | myr_ I want to do that, you know! |
| 18:23.18 | myr_ | you should boot from Knoppix and reinstall knoppix's stages |
| 18:23.35 | myr_ | from knoppix |
| 18:23.40 | ma3x | myr_ how do I do that? 1. boot knoppix, 2. chroot to debian installation, and then what? |
| 18:23.48 | myr_ | no don't chroot |
| 18:23.57 | myr_ | get into knoppix and do #grub |
| 18:24.08 | myr_ | root (your_drive) |
| 18:24.08 | ma3x | and then what do I type inside the grub promt? |
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| 18:24.14 | ma3x | hm |
| 18:24.19 | ma3x | what exactly (hd0,0) ? |
| 18:24.25 | myr_ | yeah |
| 18:24.27 | ma3x | my linux is on (hd0,1) |
| 18:24.34 | myr_ | so root(hd0,1) |
| 18:24.39 | ma3x | and then? |
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| 18:24.50 | myr_ | and then setup (hd0) but this will erase your windows installation |
| 18:24.51 | skitzo11 | tst |
| 18:25.02 | skitzo11 | test |
| 18:25.08 | atrus | myr_: no, it'll just erase the windows boot loader. grub will still boot windows fine |
| 18:25.16 | ma3x | myr you mean it will erase the boot entry, not the partition or installation, right?/ |
| 18:25.22 | ma3x | atrus good then |
| 18:25.22 | myr_ | ko |
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| 18:25.52 | ma3x | myr: are you sure it's "setup (hd0)" |
| 18:25.55 | myr_ | Err yes it's true, winxp does't setup on MBR doesn't it? |
| 18:26.01 | myr_ | yes it is |
| 18:26.16 | myr_ | you should install grub on the MBR |
| 18:26.20 | ma3x | hm ok then |
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| 18:26.35 | ma3x | btw, why they made windows so stupid, when you install, it erases the boot loader |
| 18:26.35 | atrus | ma3x: in theory. :) it certainly won't be any worse, and is generally smart enough to work without any extra tweaking. |
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| 18:26.45 | myr_ | because windows suxxes a lot |
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| 18:27.03 | ma3x | but I mean that's not fair towards the other OS's |
| 18:27.08 | ma3x | it's really like monopoly |
| 18:27.12 | myr_ | " why they made windows so stupid" -> because they are stupid, but I won't troll |
| 18:27.45 | myr_ | didn't you known that ? windows tries to destroy every other os you have |
| 18:28.05 | ma3x | nah, OS not, but boot loader, yeah! |
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| 18:28.29 | myr_ | they trully believe they are alone on the world ^^ |
| 18:28.30 | Gathond | myr_: it only erases any non MS bootloaders found, not exactly the same as destroying the OS |
| 18:28.49 | Coweater | myr_: for an extremely large portion of desktops they are |
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| 18:28.53 | myr_ | it depends from the experience level of the targeted user |
| 18:28.59 | dvs | Gathond: Just enough to try and screw you up |
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| 18:29.13 | linuxddr | !tell linuxddr nvidia-one-liner |
| 18:29.19 | linuxddr | !tell linuxddr nvidia one-liner |
| 18:29.25 | pontusen | could anyone tell me : why choose debian? |
| 18:29.29 | linuxddr | hi! |
| 18:29.35 | Gathond | dvs: but not really a problem if you know what a bootloader is and how to reinstall it |
| 18:29.37 | linuxddr | how do i install my nvidia driver ? |
| 18:29.42 | drizzd_ | pontusen: it's free |
| 18:29.43 | odla | anyone know how i make my xmamerc file? |
| 18:29.51 | myr_ | because apt-get because stable/testing/sid because you like it because 42 |
| 18:29.56 | pontusen | as is most distros :) |
| 18:29.56 | odla | i thought i issue some xmame command |
| 18:30.02 | Coweater | !tell pontusen -about why debian |
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| 18:30.34 | odla | pontusen: cause of apt-get, aptitude, dpkg, deb files, the community, abrotman |
| 18:30.37 | odla | #d |
| 18:30.39 | kspath | you are not worthy |
| 18:30.56 | myr_ | !tell myr_ -about why debian |
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| 18:31.17 | Coweater | !msg the bot |
| 18:31.17 | dpkg | please message the bot... not doing so could be considered an unnecessary flood |
| 18:31.26 | opnsrc | Does anyone know where I can find a list of Debian repository |
| 18:31.30 | opnsrc | repositories * |
| 18:31.33 | myr_ | Could anyone tell me how to stop grub config file autoupdate on each kernel update in debian please ? |
| 18:31.41 | blondie | opnsrc: apt-setup |
| 18:32.04 | kspath | where can I get a list of debian branded supositories? |
| 18:32.14 | pontusen | odla, aptitude, dpkg, arotman? :\ |
| 18:32.32 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 18:32.33 | odla | !tell pontusen about aptitude |
| 18:32.50 | opnsrc | doesn't work |
| 18:33.15 | odla | !tell pontusen about dpkg |
| 18:33.27 | myr_ | Could anyone tell me how to stop grub config file autoupdate on each kernel update in debian please please ? |
| 18:33.28 | opnsrc | well thanks |
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| 18:33.58 | blondie | !doesn't work |
| 18:33.58 | dpkg | Look buddy, doesn't work is an ambiguous statement. Does it sit on the couch all day? Does it want more money? Does it waste its time on IRC all day long? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. |
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| 18:35.35 | fcn | how can i install gaim 2 on debian unstable? |
| 18:36.06 | kspath | sarge repository: http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages.en.txt.gz found in 60 seconds on www.debian.org web site |
| 18:36.28 | azeem | fcn: if you are running unstable, you are supposed to find out yourself I think |
| 18:36.46 | azeem | fcn: if there are issues installing, you should check the bug reports and file one if none exists |
| 18:37.08 | kspath | opnsrc: sarge repository: http://packages.debian.org/stable/allpackages.en.txt.gz found in 60 seconds on www.debian.org web site |
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| 18:38.18 | luca7 | why does " fdisk -l " doesnt show me all my hard drive ? |
| 18:38.24 | kspath | I am ALWAYS amazed what I can find in less than 60 seconds on www.debian.org . What about google? What about yahoo? Simply amazing what I have found. Wonderous even so. |
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| 18:38.52 | redloff | hi, what is responsible for pseudotransparency in X? |
| 18:38.53 | kspath | luca7 cfdisk ? |
| 18:39.37 | redloff | i don't have pseudotransparency in MGT under gentoo (xorg) but when I connect via X -query from debian (xfree) MGT gets magically transparent.. what's wrong? |
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| 18:40.13 | luca7 | kspath cfdisk what do list all available hard drivers ? |
| 18:40.18 | DaBlade | Hey |
| 18:40.31 | blaaman1 | How do I unset and environment variable ? |
| 18:40.38 | redloff | unset VARIABLE |
| 18:40.40 | redloff | ;] |
| 18:40.44 | DaBlade | This is gonna sound lame, but how do I make /etc/init.d/cupsys run at startup? |
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| 18:40.56 | kspath | luca7: man cfdisk man --help as the only option to determine options? |
| 18:40.57 | blaaman1 | redloff: thanks |
| 18:41.02 | redloff | update-rc.d cupsys defaults |
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| 18:41.16 | DaBlade | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.24 | DaBlade | But it didn't run on startup :/ |
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| 18:41.33 | ubarjames | hi. why does apt-get upgrade hold back some packages (about 15)? |
| 18:41.35 | DaBlade | I gotta manually start it every time. |
| 18:41.38 | redloff | do they exist in all runtimes? |
| 18:41.48 | DaBlade | redloff: dunno |
| 18:41.51 | luca7 | kspath im on man cfdisk and i dont see any option to display all my hard drives |
| 18:41.52 | beardy | DaBlade: "/msg dpkg update-rc.d", and "rcconf" It should already be starting though, probably. |
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| 18:42.01 | redloff | DaBlade, check, or do what I wrote before |
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| 18:42.21 | opizer | hello, how to install kdevelop? |
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| 18:42.35 | jelly | ubarjames: If you havn't put them explicitely on hold, usually because their dependencies conflict with some other already install packages. |
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| 18:42.48 | adioe3 | Hey there, how to get the nVidia drivers working on Debian amd64??? |
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| 18:43.05 | Doe | hi guys, is there a way to check if apache2 is compiled w/ ssl ? |
| 18:43.09 | kspath | luca7: fdisk cfdisk and parted are your friends get to know them better invite them over for tea or coffee |
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| 18:43.39 | luca7 | kspath i think cfdisk doesn list the available hard drivers |
| 18:43.46 | opizer | hello, how to install kdevelop? |
| 18:43.51 | luca7 | kspath it should work with fdisk |
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| 18:44.28 | kspath | luca7: maybe maybe reading up on the tools you are attempting to use will serve you VERY well in the future |
| 18:44.32 | adioe3 | hey, how to install the nvidia driver on x86_64 debian ? |
| 18:44.50 | adioe3 | sarge |
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| 18:46.24 | tuna__ | hi there, i have a Benq CM3000 printer i searched on the net but i couldn't find the right driver. i use Gnome , could you help me please, thanks |
| 18:46.55 | kspath | The goal of tools like irc channels is to focus on what is not documented well first and foremost |
| 18:46.56 | g1itchy0ne | adioe3: try using linux32 then sh NVIDIA.... |
| 18:47.25 | ubarjames | jelly, so vim will never be updated again? |
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| 18:47.54 | kspath | things that are LONG standing and known and stable and documented should tend to be studied off channel |
| 18:48.00 | adioe3 | g1itchy0ne: can you be a bit more precise (not exactly a newbie but close) |
| 18:48.03 | DaBlade | redloff: What runlevel do I need to add cupsys to to make it run on startup? |
| 18:48.27 | g1itchy0ne | adioe3: have you downloaded the driver from nvidia? |
| 18:48.45 | luca7 | kspath please look here there is no " cfdisk ""something"" to list the hard drivers http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=c/cfdisk |
| 18:49.39 | adioe3 | g1itchy0ne: yep. |
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| 18:49.55 | adioe3 | g1itchy0ne: the x86_64 one |
| 18:50.19 | g1itchy0ne | adioe3: what error do you get when trying to install it? |
| 18:50.29 | g1itchy0ne | or not |
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| 18:51.00 | peshkin | Hi... I have just built and packaged clamav-0.88 using the standard debian instructions. It had some rejects as I patched, (uupdate) but built OK. Am I foolish to try to install it? Can I always get back to the official version or am I likely to f**k myself up badly? |
| 18:51.30 | bbrazil | peshkin: you on sarge and looking for latest clamav? |
| 18:51.30 | linuxddr | anybody to help me ? |
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| 18:51.59 | peshkin | bbrazil: actually, ubuntu but I think the standard debian answer should be the same |
| 18:52.09 | Rawplayer | MI |
| 18:52.21 | bbrazil | peshkin: ah, #unbuntu then. Debian answer is to use volatile sources |
| 18:52.30 | zeballin3 | DaBlade: when you install cups it will be set to start at boot, TTBOMK. |
| 18:52.30 | DaBlade | hello? Which runlevel do I add it to to make it run on regular bootup? Anyone? |
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| 18:52.46 | DaBlade | zeballin3: It doesn't. |
| 18:52.50 | bbrazil | DaBlade: 2 |
| 18:52.53 | redloff | DaBlade, dunno, 2? |
| 18:52.55 | peshkin | bbrazil: thanks |
| 18:53.04 | abrotman | !tell pontusen about why debian |
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| 18:53.06 | zeballin3 | DaBlade: how did you install it? |
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| 18:53.17 | luca7 | can anyone please tell me whats the command to list all my hard drivers ? |
| 18:53.37 | DaBlade | It's not as much how I installed it as how I wiped every service I didn't need a month ago, and now I bought a printer and I need it again. lol |
| 18:53.42 | ubarjames | is there something like gentoo's "emerge depclean" or "emerge clean" in debian? |
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| 18:54.13 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: df will list the drives |
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| 18:54.38 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: I would add -h to make it readable |
| 18:54.39 | zeballin3 | DaBlade: I've never understood the run level stuff in debian. Personally, I would just reinstall it with apt-get. |
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| 18:54.55 | abrotman | ubarjames: which would do what? |
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| 18:55.04 | Muffie | hello all. |
| 18:55.05 | zeballin3 | DaBlade: (perhaps remove it first -- purge) |
| 18:55.14 | DaBlade | zeballin3: Well this is quicker, and BitTorrent alreadt owns about 99% of my bandwidth. |
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| 18:55.21 | DaBlade | *already |
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| 18:55.28 | ubarjames | abrotman, kill packages which are not needed by any other package |
| 18:55.31 | Muffie | Anyone knows if its possible to get Direct Rendering with an Ati Radeon 9600xt (RV360) inside xorg 6.9? |
| 18:55.33 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne it doesnt list all my hard drivers .. i have 4 all together and df -h shows me only the main one :) |
| 18:55.36 | abrotman | ubarjames: deborphan |
| 18:55.40 | abrotman | ubarjames: read the man page |
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| 18:55.45 | abrotman | !tell ubarjames about deborphan |
| 18:55.46 | Daveman | abrotman :) |
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| 18:55.51 | abrotman | Daveman! |
| 18:55.55 | Daveman | yes! |
| 18:56.21 | odla | daveman = perfdave? |
| 18:56.24 | neyka | quien me puede ayudar |
| 18:56.25 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: ah I only have one so... |
| 18:56.42 | abrotman | odla: not even close |
| 18:56.52 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne no clue ? :) hmm it should work with fdisk -l but it aint |
| 18:57.08 | drizzd_ | Muffie: r300.sf.net may have what you need |
| 18:57.15 | Daveman | odla, negative. |
| 18:57.19 | abrotman | drizzd_: that should be xorg now |
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| 18:57.31 | Daveman | abrotman, what's the latest? |
| 18:57.52 | abrotman | Daveman: cows are black,brown, red, or white |
| 18:57.56 | Muffie | drizzd_ : Someone have told me that even with the included "radon" driver I should get Direct Rendering. Do you know if thats true? |
| 18:58.00 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: yeah that should work... doesn't display them huh? |
| 18:58.05 | luca7 | without mounting all my hard drivers , i might have to go back to the OS i had before . |
| 18:58.12 | Daveman | abrotman o.O |
| 18:58.17 | ubarjames | abrotman, well thanks |
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| 18:58.40 | abrotman | ubarjames: does that help you? |
| 18:58.42 | Muffie | drizzd_ : Check this (at the website): Development has moved to Mesa/DRM and X.org CVS trees, this site may be out of date. |
| 18:58.51 | abrotman | ubarjames: there is also debfoster .. which works differently .. but can help keep a system clean |
| 18:59.01 | luca7 | fdisk -l " List the partition tables " |
| 18:59.07 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne no |
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| 18:59.38 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: what do you need them listed for? |
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| 18:59.52 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne so i can mount them :) |
| 18:59.55 | drizzd_ | Muffie: don't know, sorry |
| 19:00.11 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: ah how about 'dmesg |less' ? |
| 19:00.14 | abrotman | luca7: fdisk -l /dev/<device> |
| 19:00.16 | Muffie | anyway, thanks drizzd_ |
| 19:00.24 | abrotman | luca7: if you need a list of partitions .. cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:00.34 | luca7 | abrotman well thats what i try to find out what device |
| 19:00.48 | abrotman | luca7: so you want to know the names of the HDDs ? |
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| 19:00.55 | luca7 | no man |
| 19:01.03 | luca7 | what device /dev/what ? |
| 19:01.16 | abrotman | like fdisk -l /dev/sda or /dev/hda ...etc |
| 19:01.29 | luca7 | see thats what im saying |
| 19:01.36 | luca7 | fdisk -l shoult list them all |
| 19:01.46 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: d00d dmesg will show what linux see's them as |
| 19:01.46 | luca7 | not trying the whole day with fdisk -l /dev/sda or /dev/hda ...etc |
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| 19:01.55 | abrotman | luca7: for me it does |
| 19:02.11 | abrotman | luca7: dpkg -l util-linux .. what version ? |
| 19:02.26 | luca7 | 2.12p-4sarge1 |
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| 19:02.41 | abrotman | luca7: are you root when you do it? |
| 19:02.46 | luca7 | yeah |
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| 19:03.01 | abrotman | luca7: when i'm not root .. i get nothing .. when i'm root .. i get them |
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| 19:03.11 | luca7 | in all other linux systems it dos list all my hard drivers |
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| 19:03.27 | abrotman | maybe ... |
| 19:03.31 | luca7 | abrotman so you`r not on sarge ? |
| 19:03.38 | abrotman | luca7: no .. but i have |
| 19:03.40 | luca7 | abrotman fo sure |
| 19:03.40 | abrotman | !info util-linux etch |
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| 19:03.53 | dpkg | util-linux: (Miscellaneous system utilities), section utils, is required. Version: 2.12p-8 (etch), Packaged size: 360 kB, Installed size: 988 kB |
| 19:04.19 | abrotman | luca7: yeah . when i'm root .. on a sarge box .. i get all partitions |
| 19:04.28 | luca7 | except me |
| 19:04.36 | abrotman | luca7: `whoami` ? |
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| 19:04.57 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: did you look in dmsg? |
| 19:04.58 | luca7 | whoami |
| 19:04.58 | luca7 | root |
| 19:05.01 | masf | hi guys |
| 19:05.13 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne not found |
| 19:05.15 | abrotman | luca7: and what's in /proc/partitions ? |
| 19:05.31 | masf | i have a problem building the official 2.4.32 source from kernel.org with make-kpkg: |
| 19:05.31 | abrotman | luca7: use #flood for many lines |
| 19:05.32 | masf | install -p -m 644 debian/buildinfo /usr/src/linux-2.4.32/debian/linux-image-2.4.32-grsec-060113/usr/share/doc/linux-image-2.4.32-grsec-060113/buildinfo | install: cannot stat `debian/buildinfo': No such file or directory | make: *** [install/linux-image-2.4.32-grsec-060113] Error 1 |
| 19:05.42 | masf | any ideas how to fix that, please? |
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| 19:05.57 | abrotman | masf: sarge ? |
| 19:06.00 | masf | Sid |
| 19:06.08 | abrotman | !find debian/buildinfo sid |
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| 19:06.31 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: when you type dmesg it says not found? |
| 19:06.55 | masf | the package dh-buildinfo is installed |
| 19:07.06 | luca7 | no |
| 19:07.28 | masf | no ideas? |
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| 19:08.28 | keyhack | Has anyone here install lirc? |
| 19:08.33 | abrotman | keyhack: not again?!!? |
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| 19:08.38 | keyhack | abrotman: lol |
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| 19:08.50 | keyhack | abrotman: Friggin can't get lirc to compile |
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| 19:09.21 | mdupont | hi all, any help for "Power calibration area error" when burning dvds with growisofs? |
| 19:09.23 | abrotman | keyhack: where in MA ? |
| 19:09.31 | boguh | hi, when i do cat /proc/scsi/scsi i cant see my dvd, whats wrong? |
| 19:09.37 | abrotman | keyhack: btw .. build errors are helpful :) |
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| 19:09.56 | luca7 | g1itchy0ne there is a lot of shi* in dmesg |
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| 19:10.21 | abrotman | keyhack: paste the error here |
| 19:10.22 | abrotman | !paste |
| 19:10.22 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
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| 19:10.30 | abrotman | keyhack: use the bot .. then we can all see |
| 19:10.38 | odla | are there serious issues with upgrading from sarge to testing right now? i've tried a couple of times and every time i do my kernel doesn't fully load but goes into maintainence mode and complains about inconsistencies |
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| 19:10.57 | abrotman | odla: udev ? |
| 19:10.57 | odla | forces me to run fsck and then when i reboot forces me into maintainence mode |
| 19:11.03 | odla | abrotman: probably |
| 19:11.17 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'debian/buildinfo' (1): (/usr/share/doc/libc-client2002edebian/buildinfo.gz) in libs/libc-client2002edebian. |
| 19:11.19 | odla | abrotman: but i can't use usb without udev can i? |
| 19:11.21 | ubarjames | !tell ubarjames about marilla |
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| 19:11.40 | abrotman | odla: you can |
| 19:11.46 | abrotman | ubarjames: marillat |
| 19:11.50 | odla | abrotman: is it a pain in the ass? |
| 19:11.50 | ubarjames | k |
| 19:11.56 | keyhack | nah |
| 19:11.57 | odla | abrotman: does udev work on your system? |
| 19:11.58 | keyhack | its alright |
| 19:12.00 | keyhack | i'll fuss with it |
| 19:12.01 | abrotman | !tell ubarjames about marillat |
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| 19:12.09 | ubarjames | abrotman, does it still exist? |
| 19:12.13 | jilocasin | afternoon all |
| 19:12.15 | abrotman | ubarjames: sure |
| 19:12.21 | abrotman | keyhack: you gave up so soon ? |
| 19:12.22 | g1itchy0ne | luca7: thats what dmesg|less is for... then just press enter till u get to where it says IDE and then it will list what the physical drives are labled as in linux |
| 19:12.42 | keyhack | abrotman: My patience has run out |
| 19:12.44 | ubarjames | !tell abrotman about marillat |
| 19:12.59 | abrotman | ubarjames: i already knew abou tit |
| 19:13.01 | ubarjames | Not Found |
| 19:13.05 | odla | ubarjames: marillat seems to be f-ed up right now |
| 19:13.05 | jilocasin | can anyone point me in the direction of getting Xorg/gnome/etc. to recognize new truetype fonts? |
| 19:13.09 | abrotman | !marillat |
| 19:13.09 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, marillat is an unofficial repository containing packages not in Debian for patent-related reasons, <mplayer> being the most popular. See http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html for details on how to add, or http://ftp.malyjarda.cz/pub/mirror/marillat.free.fr/ if you are using apt greater than 0.6 ask me about <marillat key> |
| 19:13.24 | odla | ubarjames: i've tried several times to install acroread and w32codecs and it fails every time |
| 19:13.24 | abrotman | keyhack: what are the compile errors ? |
| 19:13.26 | keyhack | If I run "dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source", and then tell it "/usr/src/linux" for my kernel source, it tells me its not a valid source tree, although it is! |
| 19:13.40 | ubarjames | abrotman, i get a 404 |
| 19:13.41 | abrotman | keyhack: did you install the kernel-source package? .. and unzip it ? |
| 19:13.51 | keyhack | abrotman: Yeah, remember I compiled the kernel myself yesterday? |
| 19:13.56 | abrotman | ubarjames: http://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/index.html .. is a 404 ? |
| 19:14.24 | ubarjames | well the second link doesnt work :[ |
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| 19:14.36 | abrotman | keyhack: what's the actual error if you can paste it somewhere |
| 19:14.40 | ubarjames | !tell marillat key |
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| 19:14.42 | abrotman | ubarjames: you want the first anyways |
| 19:14.46 | abrotman | ubarjames: /msg dpkg marillat key |
| 19:14.58 | keyhack | abrotman: I just told you "Not a valid source tree" |
| 19:15.10 | MrBallZ | hi |
| 19:15.12 | MrBallZ | question |
| 19:15.35 | abrotman | keyhack: does it say why it thinks it's not valid ? |
| 19:15.59 | keyhack | abrotman: Nope |
| 19:16.17 | abrotman | keyhack: wwere these debian-ized sources .. or vanilla ? |
| 19:16.34 | keyhack | abrotman: Right from the distro I believe |
| 19:16.35 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me with tv-out..I have a geforce 2 gts...and I wanna enable tv-out |
| 19:16.46 | jilocasin | bye noe |
| 19:16.48 | jilocasin | now |
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| 19:16.53 | nadjyla | hello |
| 19:16.55 | abrotman | keyhack: you would have `apt-get install kernel-source.....x.x.x.x.` etc |
| 19:17.05 | abrotman | sjaakz0r: ask #nvidia |
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| 19:17.39 | keyhack | abrotman: I thought you were referring to lirc, yes, I apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 I believe |
| 19:17.43 | abrotman | ah ok |
| 19:17.54 | abrotman | keyhack: oh wait .. you're on etch ? |
| 19:17.59 | takatumi | keyhack: m-a prepare && m-a a-i lirc is usually all it takes. |
| 19:18.10 | keyhack | say what |
| 19:18.13 | keyhack | lol |
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| 19:18.22 | odla | abrotman: does udev control my pcmcia card too? |
| 19:18.25 | abrotman | takatumi: you're too smart for your own good .. you must be eliminated |
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| 19:18.33 | takatumi | abrotman: ;) |
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| 19:18.37 | abrotman | odla: dunno . my pcmcia slots are empty(yay ibm( |
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| 19:18.47 | keyhack | so what do I do? |
| 19:18.49 | joni_ | hi. i have cronotab joni@torso:~$ crontab -l |
| 19:18.49 | joni_ | @reboot vncserver -geometry 1024x768 -depth 24 |
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| 19:19.01 | joni_ | should it work |
| 19:19.15 | MrBallZ | question: I want to install initng and it requires libc62 .3.5-1 , but i have libc6 2.3.2.dsl-22 , can I backport the newer libc6 ??? |
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| 19:19.30 | takatumi | keyhack: install module-assistant, use it. |
| 19:19.31 | odla | wtf does the marillat repository keep telling me that there are too many connections from this IP |
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| 19:19.34 | odla | when there is only one |
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| 19:19.57 | keyhack | takatumi: wow, never heard of it |
| 19:20.08 | nadjyla | taktumi, yes it s rox |
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| 19:20.26 | takatumi | nadjyla: nick tab rox too. ;) |
| 19:20.34 | keyhack | takatumi: E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12 |
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| 19:20.46 | keyhack | (when I ran m-a prepare) |
| 19:20.49 | abrotman | keyhack: is this just for movies for you? |
| 19:21.07 | keyhack | abrotman: Huh? |
| 19:21.12 | abrotman | keyhack: apt-get install linux-headers-2.6-<yourcpu> |
| 19:21.12 | Goshawk | hi, what program should i use to create my own debian like internet repository? |
| 19:21.23 | abrotman | keyhack: is this for music or for movies or both? |
| 19:21.36 | keyhack | abrotman: It's for a custom application |
| 19:21.43 | abrotman | keyhack: oh yeah .. the java thing :) |
| 19:21.57 | abrotman | keyhack: apt-cache search linux-headers-2.6 .. pick the one you need |
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| 19:22.18 | keyhack | abrotman: I did, and I still get the same error |
| 19:22.20 | takatumi | keyhack: headers for 2.6.12 does not seem to be available, you may need to upgrade the kernel |
| 19:22.45 | keyhack | ah, it ruined everything |
| 19:22.52 | keyhack | ahhhh |
| 19:23.00 | keyhack | FRIG |
| 19:23.23 | keyhack | it overwrote my /usr/src/linux directory (with my custom kernel), with a symbolic link to linux-headers, wtf |
| 19:23.30 | keyhack | I blame abrotman |
| 19:23.38 | takatumi | !blame abrotman |
| 19:24.04 | kspath | !ewe are to blame! |
| 19:24.04 | dpkg | ...but ewe is already something else... |
| 19:24.16 | kspath | !ewe |
| 19:24.16 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
| 19:24.17 | keyhack | All that time configuring the kernel, gone! |
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| 19:25.02 | takatumi | keyhack: I'm sure it's just a symlink |
| 19:25.04 | keyhack | ok ok, it's still there |
| 19:25.08 | keyhack | it renamed it |
| 19:25.21 | zethreth | Excuse me, I just did a netinstall of the etch installer and have no Xorg. I search for xorg and it's not in my packages. I need it so that xserverrc can load it when startx is executed. At this time xserverrc looks for /usr/bin/X11/X and it's not there. |
| 19:25.21 | keyhack | now my /usr/src directory has loads of directories and I don't know which way is up anymore |
| 19:25.26 | Goshawk | what program should i use to create my own debian like internet repository? |
| 19:25.40 | takatumi | reprepro? |
| 19:25.56 | kspath | !ewe is an older female sheep and/or a younger female sheep after giving birth. |
| 19:25.56 | dpkg | ...but ewe is already something else... |
| 19:26.03 | Goshawk | takatumi, no, another one, i tried it |
| 19:26.08 | sjaakz0r | how can I give my network card a static ip? |
| 19:26.51 | kspath | sjaaz0r: /etc/network/interfaces much? |
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| 19:26.56 | pinkwerks | /msh dpkg testing security |
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| 19:27.33 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:28.25 | kspath | sjaaz0r: man interfaces |
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| 19:31.04 | kspath | Why in debian when I type man automatic_door I get this error: No manual entry for automatic_door |
| 19:31.24 | abrotman | takatumi: will the m-a approach only work with a debian compiled/packaged kernel ? |
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| 19:31.34 | abrotman | kspath: get a haircut! |
| 19:31.37 | keyhack | So is the linux-headers package supposed to be extracted into my linux source tree? and not be two separate directories? |
| 19:32.03 | takatumi | abrotman: it works fine with my custom compiled ones too. |
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| 19:32.10 | abrotman | just wanted to make sure |
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| 19:33.28 | jelly | a poll: "regex" or "regexp"? |
| 19:33.34 | Phated | Both. |
| 19:33.52 | jelly | Any preferences? |
| 19:34.22 | keyhack | So is the linux-headers package supposed to be extracted into my linux source tree? and not be two separate directories? |
| 19:34.27 | Kinks | I seriously couldn't care less. |
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| 19:35.00 | takatumi | abrotman: but it symlinks /usr/src/linux/ to the linux-source tree which stew doesn't like. |
| 19:35.24 | Phated | jelly: The latter. |
| 19:35.32 | takatumi | keyhack: what exactly are you doing? |
| 19:35.33 | abrotman | takatumi: stew ? |
| 19:35.34 | stew | takatumi: s/stew/linus/ |
| 19:35.41 | abrotman | stew is linus ? |
| 19:35.44 | takatumi | !stew++ |
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| 19:35.54 | abrotman | stew: i thought you were taking today off |
| 19:35.59 | stew | no, ugh |
| 19:35.59 | abrotman | jetscreamer: go to work! |
| 19:36.00 | keyhack | takatumi: Well abrotman told me to install the kernel-headers package, and then shifted things around in my /usr/src directory, so I'm trying to fix things so I can use m-a |
| 19:36.05 | stew | abrotman: stuck working |
| 19:36.10 | abrotman | stew: i'm sorry |
| 19:36.15 | stew | abrotman: we were supposed to go to a 1:00 movie, but that seems to be shot |
| 19:36.26 | dvs | pal stew ;-) |
| 19:36.28 | abrotman | keyhack: takatumi told you to use m-a .. m-a requires the kernel-headers package |
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| 19:36.36 | stew | i still haven't gotten breakfast |
| 19:36.36 | fran | Hi, how can I mount a initrd make with yaird utility, when I try: "mount -o loop initrd /mnt" it reports an error that can't detect the filesystem, and when I force to ramfs it's seem ok, but the directory is empty |
| 19:36.37 | abrotman | stew: you think? .. what movie? |
| 19:36.45 | stew | i don't even know |
| 19:36.47 | jelly | I'm writing a paper and I don't know which one to adopt, since I use both too. I'm slightly in favor of regexp, but the author of Mastering Regular expressions uses regexes. |
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| 19:36.56 | jetscreamer | i just got back |
| 19:36.57 | keyhack | abrotman: Are you distracted and not paying attention to me anymore? lol |
| 19:36.58 | dvs | stew: See Dick and Jane |
| 19:36.58 | jetscreamer | unless you're in pst, yeah |
| 19:37.00 | jetscreamer | add -t iso9660 ? |
| 19:37.08 | abrotman | keyhack: i saw what you write |
| 19:37.10 | abrotman | wrote |
| 19:37.11 | takatumi | keyhack: if the headers are available, m-a prepare should get everything done for you. |
| 19:37.24 | keyhack | I understand that, but they are not in the right directory |
| 19:37.33 | abrotman | takatumi: but if he already had a source tree .. shouldn't that have been sufficient ? |
| 19:37.38 | jelly | Also, there is regex(7) but not regexp(any man section) |
| 19:38.11 | keyhack | my linux source tree was renamed to this long "linux-OLDVERSION-432546342432" and then there is several linux-header-2.6.12... directories as well, and m-a still says there are no linux headers available, so I'm asking if the stuff inside kernel-headers is supposed to be inside my kernel source tree, and named /usr/src/linux |
| 19:38.27 | jetscreamer | no not really |
| 19:39.01 | takatumi | abrotman: sure, source will suffice. |
| 19:39.04 | fran | wrong filesystem |
| 19:39.19 | jetscreamer | or -t auto |
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| 19:39.47 | fran | ioctl: LOOP_CLR_FD: divece busy |
| 19:39.51 | takatumi | keyhack: is this a custom kernel? |
| 19:40.00 | jetscreamer | do you have the loop modules loaded? |
| 19:40.00 | abrotman | yes |
| 19:40.05 | keyhack | takatumi: yeah, it _used_ to be at /usr/src/linux, before I apt-get install the kernel headers |
| 19:40.24 | jetscreamer | err module |
| 19:40.43 | takatumi | keyhack: you shouldn't be toying with headers then, remove it and start over. |
| 19:41.17 | keyhack | takatumi: lol, ok... let me remove these directories then |
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| 19:41.50 | takatumi | keyhack: just don't remove your source tree. |
| 19:41.51 | fran | :'( |
| 19:41.52 | jetscreamer | just compile another kernel and don't mess with the tree |
| 19:42.09 | keyhack | takatumi: done |
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| 19:42.17 | jetscreamer | fran: beyond me then |
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| 19:43.00 | takatumi | keyhack: m-a prepare && m-a a-i lirc |
| 19:43.29 | keyhack | takatumi: And like I said earlier... "E: Couldn't find package linux-headers-2.6.12" |
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| 19:44.06 | takatumi | keyhack: ok, hack, symlink /usr/src/linux to your source tree, m-a a-i lirc |
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| 19:46.14 | keyhack | takatumi: "Build of the package lirc-modules-source failed! How do you wish to proceed?" |
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| 19:46.41 | Farris1 | is there any way to completely pause a running process? |
| 19:46.46 | takatumi | keyhack: what do the logs reveal? |
| 19:47.05 | keyhack | takatumi: The log viewer only shows the date, and thats it |
| 19:48.46 | stew | takatumi: if you want to hide, your best off not triggering my nick hilight :) |
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| 19:49.21 | abrotman | stew: go to the movies! |
| 19:49.39 | joni_ | how do i automatically on boot start something to user n? |
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| 19:49.51 | takatumi | keyhack: it failed here too, file a bug. |
| 19:50.02 | keyhack | lol |
| 19:50.05 | keyhack | nah |
| 19:50.07 | keyhack | frig it |
| 19:50.30 | takatumi | keyhack: it did work here a while back and I don't have any hardware for it. |
| 19:50.50 | Garp | Question: On testing, I just upgraded my KDE version. I'm using kdm,and filled /etc/kde3/kdm/Xservers with 4 differents entries for 4 Xorg sessions. In the new kdm this doesnt work as expected. Only one session is started. Any suggestion? Thanks. |
| 19:50.51 | keyhack | something has to be wrong with the lirc-modules-source package |
| 19:51.40 | keyhack | I tried compiling it according to the README in that package, and it complains about "/usr/src/linux" not being a valid source tree |
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| 19:52.40 | Padnah | My OS is debian gnu/linux. KDE for GUI. Is there a package that would place an animated icon in the task tray which would indicate my computer network connection activity? |
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| 19:53.14 | abrotman | Padnah: i'd guess if you right click on the pane you culd find something |
| 19:53.23 | Coweater | Padnah: knetdockapp |
| 19:53.37 | Padnah | I have been searching until my eyes hurt |
| 19:54.10 | abrotman | Padnah: you could also ask #debian-kde or #kde |
| 19:54.22 | stew | abrotman: can't, i have to get my backup server online again |
| 19:54.27 | abrotman | doh |
| 19:54.28 | colera | i installed debian sarge x loads and everything but my mouse doesnt't work, i checked the xf86config file and everything seems okay. one thing is that i didn't have the mouse plugged in when i installed????? |
| 19:54.30 | stew | its a big pain |
| 19:54.47 | Coweater | Padnah: also knetload |
| 19:54.54 | stew | can alter the boot order, and the cd comes after the scsi, so i have to boot the cd until to boot: prompt, then hotplug the scsi |
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| 19:55.15 | Padnah | Coweater, I found the package and it appears just what I need. Thanks\ |
| 19:55.33 | stew | and the only scsi cdrom i have doesn't seem to like CDRWs, and i can't find any cdrs |
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| 19:56.48 | KerPlunk | Garp: try #kde or #debian-kde |
| 19:56.57 | keyhack | abrotman: takatumi: Thanks for the try though |
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| 19:57.11 | abrotman | keyhack: it has to work .. |
| 19:57.11 | KerPlunk | !tell joni_ about ask |
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| 19:57.30 | KerPlunk | joni_: I do not understand your question..and I bet no one else does either...that is why they didn't answer you. |
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| 19:57.46 | kementeus | hello, somebody could help me installing the gnome 2.12 in my debian? |
| 19:57.49 | KerPlunk | !tell joni_ about debian-fi |
| 19:57.51 | keyhack | abrotman: Nope, it won't. It's impossible! |
| 19:57.56 | Garp | KerPlunk: thanks |
| 19:57.59 | Garp | (bebye) |
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| 19:58.08 | KerPlunk | kementeus: just wait..you'll just fuck up your system. |
| 19:58.21 | abrotman | keyhack: i disagree! |
| 19:58.30 | keyhack | abrotman: blasphemy! |
| 19:58.34 | kementeus | KerPlunk: fuck up? it does not have support right now? |
| 19:58.41 | KerPlunk | joni_: There is #debian-fi if you want. |
| 19:58.56 | kementeus | let me think, get better try ubuntu or wait... |
| 19:58.57 | takatumi | keyhack: there are a few bugs filed on lirc-modules-source already. |
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| 19:59.31 | keyhack | takatumi: shiat. |
| 19:59.46 | KerPlunk | joni_: How do you say "Join #debian-fi if you speak finnish" except in finnish? |
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| 20:00.15 | KerPlunk | kementeus: What version of debian are you using? |
| 20:00.22 | KerPlunk | joni_: Can you translate that for me? |
| 20:00.27 | kementeus | debian unstable |
| 20:01.57 | KerPlunk | !tell kementeus why is gnome not in unstable |
| 20:02.02 | KerPlunk | !tell kementeus about unstable |
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| 20:02.53 | KerPlunk | kementeus: no it isn't completely in yet..it was "just" released... kementeus anytime you have a huge desktop enviroment like that..that literally hundreds of other programs use their libraries...it will take some time to add it. |
| 20:02.54 | furgar | hello everyone |
| 20:03.25 | kementeus | KernPlunk, so, gnome 2.12 is not in unstable but kde 3.5 does? |
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| 20:04.02 | KerPlunk | !tell kementeus about why is gnome not in unstable |
| 20:04.05 | takatumi | kementeus: yes, kde 3.5 is in now. |
| 20:04.26 | keyhack | no LIRC for now |
| 20:04.30 | KerPlunk | kementeus: unstable is for _developers_ if you want to see the progress in _development_ go to the website dpkg told you about. |
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| 20:04.34 | keyhack | I can live without, it'll be a month before my program is completed anyways |
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| 20:04.54 | gentgeen__ | I just edited /etc/exports -- but I forget what I need to 'restart' to validate the changes.... anyone know? |
| 20:05.01 | takatumi | KerPlunk: which website? |
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| 20:05.08 | Gathond | gentgeen__: your NFS server |
| 20:05.12 | ganymed | hallo |
| 20:05.19 | KerPlunk | !tell kementeus about why is gnome not in testing |
| 20:05.28 | KerPlunk | !why is gnome not in testing |
| 20:05.28 | dpkg | gnome is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=gnome |
| 20:05.30 | gentgeen__ | Gathond, Thank you -- thats in :-) |
| 20:05.31 | KerPlunk | That website. |
| 20:05.31 | takatumi | KerPlunk: but he wasn't asking about testing |
| 20:05.33 | KerPlunk | heh |
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| 20:05.39 | KerPlunk | takatumi: That is for unstable also. |
| 20:05.48 | takatumi | KerPlunk: yeah right. |
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| 20:06.30 | ganymed | i tried installing debian etch on a software raid... everythings runs fine, but when boot i get a kernel panic. my box says: reiserfs: sh2600: md2: read_super_block: bread failed. any ideas? |
| 20:07.15 | gentgeen__ | Gathond, Thank you, now LTSP works again... |
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| 20:09.09 | takatumi | ganymed: it actually says 'bread failed'? |
| 20:09.25 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me with this: ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' |
| 20:09.33 | sjaakz0r | when I try to install videocard |
| 20:10.17 | ganymed | takatumi: yes |
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| 20:11.03 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: do you have an nvidia.ko file? |
| 20:11.06 | gigabytes | hi all |
| 20:11.12 | gigabytes | what about firefox 1.5 in debian? |
| 20:11.14 | gigabytes | is it in sid? |
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| 20:11.20 | sjaakz0r | dunno |
| 20:11.26 | sjaakz0r | let me see ganymed |
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| 20:11.48 | bizkit | !info mozilla-firefox sid |
| 20:11.53 | dpkg | mozilla-firefox: (Transition package for firefox rename), section web, is optional. Version: 1.5.dfsg-4 (sid), Packaged size: 41 kB, Installed size: 96 kB |
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| 20:12.28 | sjaakz0r | no ganymed don't have it |
| 20:12.31 | ganymed | any ideas about the bread problem... |
| 20:12.46 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: mom. what do you wanna do? |
| 20:13.03 | sjaakz0r | ? |
| 20:13.12 | gigabytes | bizkit, thanks |
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| 20:13.27 | sjaakz0r | what do you mean ganymed ? |
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| 20:15.34 | insomnd | hi. is it OK to use kernel 2.6.12 or 2.6.11 in the stable release without afftectin performance and staying in stable? |
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| 20:16.10 | NaAani | hmm, trying to install debian |
| 20:16.11 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: what do u wanna do? when do u get the error message... some background info |
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| 20:16.19 | sjaakz0r | ok |
| 20:16.25 | NaAani | but the install seems to freeze when it's installing the bootloader |
| 20:16.30 | c0redump | im doing a net install of debian sarge, but somehow i cant get the network to work...i tried woody too, and it worked right from the box, so the nic is fine, lsmod returns no errors concerning the nic, its seems all right. is this a known issue with sarge or am i missing something here??? |
| 20:16.30 | NaAani | I waited 30 min |
| 20:16.36 | NaAani | but nothing happened |
| 20:16.36 | mwe | can you map a key in X to generate a right mouse button click? I have a laptop with a broken right mouse button |
| 20:16.38 | sjaakz0r | I run the drivers I downloaded from nvidia, it tries to compile the kernel and then you get ERROR: Unable to load the kernel module 'nvidia.ko' |
| 20:16.39 | NaAani | = / |
| 20:18.00 | takatumi | mwe: xbindkeys may help. |
| 20:18.01 | gravity | mwe: Check out xmodmap. That should be able to do it |
| 20:18.05 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: /msg dpkg iyhtays, and /msg dpkg nvidia |
| 20:18.06 | angelo | Hi, I installed samba and it works great! problem though ... all files created from a windows workstation on a samba share need to be 766 ... but when a file is created it becomes 700 ... I already put create mask = 766 in smb.conf .. anybody knows why this doesn`t work ? |
| 20:18.22 | takatumi | mwe: ignore me, gravity knows. |
| 20:18.28 | gravity | takatumi: No, your suggestion is good too |
| 20:18.33 | NaAani | mmm, when I try to install grub it freezes when it's looking for other systems, with lilo it freezes when it's creating lilo.conf =/ |
| 20:18.38 | gravity | I honestly have very little experience with such things, sadly |
| 20:18.40 | ink__ | hi there (: |
| 20:19.03 | mwe | gravity: I couldn't figure out how to do it reading the xmodmap man page though :| |
| 20:19.09 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: WHAT do you want to make run? |
| 20:19.23 | sjaakz0r | the driver from nvidia |
| 20:19.25 | gravity | mwe: Hrm... did you google around for it? It's not an uncommon thing for people who use macs for instance |
| 20:19.41 | bizkit | angelo: try it with create mask = 0766 |
| 20:19.48 | abrotman | you'd think .. if you can move the mouse with the numpad .. you can set clicks too |
| 20:19.54 | ganymed | for WHAT please. network card, graphics card... what? |
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| 20:20.14 | ganymed | i cannot help you with the graphics drivers |
| 20:20.24 | bizkit | abrotman: how do you do that? :-) |
| 20:20.34 | abrotman | bizkit: do what? |
| 20:20.44 | angelo | bizkit : create mask = 0766 doesn`t work |
| 20:21.11 | abrotman | bizkit: there's a way with the numpad to move the mouse |
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| 20:21.15 | eegore | does anyone have the NVidia apt install chain? |
| 20:21.32 | abrotman | !nvidia one-liner |
| 20:21.32 | dpkg | methinks nvidia one-liner is update-pciids ; apt-get install module-assistant && m-a prepare && m-a a-i nvidia && apt-get install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && modprobe nvidia && echo nvidia >> /etc/modules && dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 (or xserver-xorg on testing and unstable). Contrib and non-free sources needed. See <non-free sources> |
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| 20:21.56 | bizkit | abrotman: visual mode in vim ;-).. but possible in X? |
| 20:22.15 | Asacarn1 | when i start gnome from gdm, i get a black X in the center of my screen that stays on top for the whole session |
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| 20:22.28 | Asacarn1 | it is the same X as an X mouse pointer with no display manager. |
| 20:22.38 | Asacarn1 | however i have a my trackpad pointer as well! |
| 20:22.44 | Asacarn1 | how can i get rid of this X? |
| 20:23.18 | gravity | Asacarn1: Could you put your X config file in a pastebin? |
| 20:23.19 | takatumi | Asacarn1: you have 2 pointers defined in the config? |
| 20:23.22 | abrotman | bizkit: huh? |
| 20:23.34 | Asacarn1 | takatumi: maybe? but i don't get it when i start kde from gdm |
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| 20:23.52 | gravity | Hrm... now that's *really* weird |
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| 20:24.01 | gravity | Sounds like a really bizarre gnome problem. |
| 20:24.05 | Asacarn1 | i wonder if i will get it if i use xdm. |
| 20:24.11 | gravity | Asacarn1: Could you post the config file? |
| 20:24.14 | gravity | And the logfile as well? |
| 20:24.33 | gravity | I'll brb to have a look... |
| 20:24.33 | takatumi | gravity: cheers for 6.9, works fine here. |
| 20:24.40 | gravity | takatumi: Great! :-) |
| 20:24.43 | gravity | brb... |
| 20:24.51 | Asacarn1 | gravity: which one? |
| 20:25.34 | bizkit | abrotman: trying to get rid of the mouse more often.. however there are still some apps left which need a mouse (not everything accesable via keybinds). so moving the mouse and doing click-actions with the keyboard.. would be fun? :-) |
| 20:25.52 | takatumi | Asacarn1: /var/log/Xorg.0.log or xfree86 and /etc/X11/xorg.conf or xfree86.conf |
| 20:26.31 | abrotman | bizkit: there is a way .. i just can't remember it |
| 20:26.59 | Asacarn1 | http://sacarny.com/XFree86.0.log |
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| 20:27.08 | row | Is there a way to find out what hdd a file is on in a lvm partition? |
| 20:27.12 | Asacarn1 | the latest login was to gnome |
| 20:27.13 | ganymed | any ideas about why my system wouldn't wanna boot my raid0 array (recognize /) with all modules necessary compiled in? |
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| 20:27.45 | abrotman | bizkit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/linux/keyboard/mouse_easy/numberpad/mouse-numpad-kde.shtml .. etc .. but you don't require KDE |
| 20:27.59 | abrotman | bizkit: http://www.bbc.co.uk/accessibility/linux/keyboard/mouse_easy/numberpad/mouse-numpad-gnome.shtml |
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| 20:28.26 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me with thses nvidia problems? |
| 20:28.46 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: well, is it about a network card? |
| 20:29.03 | sjaakz0r | no nvidia...you know videocard? |
| 20:29.08 | Wanderer | Anyone know what mesa packages I need to install to play Enemy Territory on my debian unstable system? |
| 20:29.08 | bizkit | abrotman: thanks i'll have a look on google when i find some time.. would be nice for openbox :) |
| 20:29.11 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: no, nvidia.com's official installer isn't supported on #debian |
| 20:29.29 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: don't use the nvidia.com installer if you don't know what you do, use debian packages instead |
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| 20:29.32 | sjaakz0r | is ther an unofficial? |
| 20:29.41 | sjaakz0r | bizkit are there debian packages? |
| 20:29.45 | chealer_ | !tell sjaakz0r about ngd |
| 20:29.46 | bizkit | !tell sjaakz0r about nvidia |
| 20:29.50 | abrotman | bizkit: you can do it .. you'll just hvave to google some |
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| 20:30.17 | ganymed | well. they also produce nforce chipsets and offer them for linux... |
| 20:31.00 | cat | oh no |
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| 20:32.04 | chealer_ | I'm trying to understand what's keeping synaptic in Dep-Wait on ia64. igloo mentions liblaunchpad-integration-dev, but synaptic doesn't (directly) build-dep on such a pacakge. can igloo (and buildd.net) show a culprit package which is not a direct build-dependency? if so, how would I find out which direct build-dep depends on liblaunchpad-integration-dev? |
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| 20:32.51 | buu | This is odd. My bios and lspci sees 5 raid cards. They all have 2 hds plugged in. All the hds are powered, but my /proc/scsi/scsi only shows me 8 disks |
| 20:33.03 | ganymed | sjaakz0r: maybe this is something for you: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2004/12/msg00120.html |
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| 20:33.42 | abrotman | buu: logical volumes ? |
| 20:34.17 | abrotman | buu: fdisk -l (as root) .. do the numbers add up ? |
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| 20:35.19 | ganymed | is there a way to access md deivices without having the raidtab file? |
| 20:35.34 | ma3x | hi I get that error on boot: sys/block/hda/hda3/dev/: no such file or directory. I've changed the partition to hda2 and did grub setup via knoppix cd. What should I do now? |
| 20:35.45 | joni_ | i have * * * * * echo "hello" in crontab. why this doesn't work. i have my username in /etc/cron.allow |
| 20:36.10 | buu | abrotman: It only lists up to /dev/sdh |
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| 20:36.34 | Daveman | buu! haha |
| 20:36.39 | Daveman | loosar =[ |
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| 20:37.02 | buu | Daveman: I'm going to eat your soul. |
| 20:37.06 | abrotman | buu: oh wait .. a1 b2 c3 d4 e5 f6 g7 .. hrm ... h8 ... |
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| 20:37.14 | Daveman | buu: I'd be honored :) |
| 20:37.17 | sjaakz0r | is there a sources.list for sarge for nvidia bizkit? |
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| 20:37.20 | abrotman | buu: i wonder if it's some kind of udev limit |
| 20:37.24 | buu | abrotman: Oh god, I hope not. |
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| 20:37.31 | Daveman | abrotman: h8! |
| 20:37.33 | joni_ | please help. my crontab doesn't work. why? |
| 20:37.47 | abrotman | buu: i vaguely remember something .. where's Wyzard |
| 20:37.55 | abrotman | buu: i can't remmeber how many it was |
| 20:37.58 | buu | abrotman: At the end of the yellow brick road/ |
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| 20:38.50 | SeTog3 | please help me , I have a big problem , I have test runit , and uninstall this , and reboot just after ... so now I can't do anything , I have only a shell sh , and the file system is mount read only ... please help me to save my system |
| 20:39.00 | buu | abrotman: Anything I could search for, or test or.. |
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| 20:39.23 | abrotman | buu: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=341027 .. i think that is Wyzard's bug |
| 20:39.30 | Daveman | eh? |
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| 20:40.18 | abrotman | buu: it says resolved .. and i'm not even sure it's related |
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| 20:40.35 | swatikiss | i'm having trouble ripping cds with grip.. when i do i just essentially very small empty files |
| 20:40.50 | abrotman | grip needs other tools to rip .. what are you using? |
| 20:41.03 | buu | abrotman: well, it says a limit at hdg |
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| 20:41.11 | swatikiss | abrotman, i have it using cdparanoia |
| 20:41.44 | abrotman | buu: it actually has a device limit |
| 20:41.51 | SeTog3 | HELP |
| 20:42.07 | abrotman | buu: oh .. you're right |
| 20:42.24 | abrotman | buu: you could track down Md .. but it might not even be a udev bug |
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| 20:43.29 | Daveman | heh |
| 20:43.37 | buu | abrotman: Garh. Linux. |
| 20:43.53 | abrotman | buu: does dmesg say anyhting useful ? |
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| 20:44.30 | Daveman | probably |
| 20:44.32 | buu | abrotman: Um. I don't think so, I'm not sure exactly what to look for. |
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| 20:44.45 | abrotman | buu: for starters .. do you see all the controllers in dmesg |
| 20:44.52 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: what do you mean by bizkit? |
| 20:45.06 | abrotman | or in lspci for that matter .. or hwinfo |
| 20:45.15 | bizkit | chealer_: he's hilighting me :-) |
| 20:45.22 | buu | abrotman: Yeah, I see them in lspci |
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| 20:45.33 | sjaakz0r | ok how should I add this directory to my apt sources.list <-- http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/modules-stable/i386/ |
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| 20:45.41 | chealer_ | bizkit: oh, sorry |
| 20:45.55 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: you shouldn't |
| 20:46.07 | sjaakz0r | why not? |
| 20:46.15 | Daveman | lsbuu |
| 20:46.16 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: why would you want to add it? |
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| 20:46.34 | sjaakz0r | b ecause it contains pre-compiled packages for nvidia drivers? |
| 20:46.38 | abrotman | buu: yeah .. i'd check the udev bugs page(archived too) .. see if anything seems simliar .. but i'm heading out .. sorry |
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| 20:46.54 | ma3x | hello |
| 20:47.02 | ma3x | will you pls help me with the following error |
| 20:47.03 | buu | abrotman: Ok, thanks. |
| 20:47.09 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: and it contains some for your kernel? |
| 20:47.14 | sjaakz0r | yeah |
| 20:47.15 | sjaakz0r | 2.6 |
| 20:47.16 | bizkit | cheers abrotman ;) |
| 20:47.18 | ma3x | bin/cat/: sys/block/hda/hda3/dev: no such file or directory |
| 20:47.22 | ma3x | what should I do about that? |
| 20:47.23 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: what's your kernel? |
| 20:47.27 | ma3x | i just changed my hda3 to hda2 |
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| 20:47.31 | ma3x | but what requires hda3?? |
| 20:47.37 | ma3x | some program or file? |
| 20:47.42 | ma3x | I don't understand what triggers it |
| 20:47.50 | sjaakz0r | 2.6.8 |
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| 20:48.01 | ganymed | i get the following when i boot: UDF-fs: No partition found | Kernel panic: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block |
| 20:48.08 | ganymed | any ideas. my root fs is reiserfs |
| 20:48.12 | sjaakz0r | 2.6.8-2-686 to be precise chealer_ |
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| 20:48.49 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: OK. are there modules for that version in Randall's repository? |
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| 20:49.06 | sjaakz0r | yes there are chealer_ ...I just need to know how to add the dir to my sources.list |
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| 20:49.22 | Cresl1n | debian rocks!!!! |
| 20:49.23 | Cresl1n | :-) |
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| 20:49.31 | buu | Debian sux0rz =[ |
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| 20:49.42 | ma3x | how do I reconfigure the kernel? |
| 20:49.44 | bluefox83 | how do i get a list of all groups? lsgroup? |
| 20:49.50 | bizkit | Cresl1n: you're searching for debian/rules? :p |
| 20:49.59 | Cresl1n | bizkit: hehe :-) |
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| 20:50.17 | joni_ | i need help with crontab. anyone? |
| 20:50.44 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how to add http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/modules-stable/i386/ to sources.list ? |
| 20:50.49 | bizkit | joni_: not anyone, man 5 crontab |
| 20:50.54 | kspath | I love when something says version 1.6 but you can not tell if it related to version 1.6 of whole package or that sub-part or to the manual or to a guide lame |
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| 20:51.00 | flipouk | bluefox83: cat /etc/group |
| 20:51.14 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: just download the package you need and do dpkg -i package.deb? |
| 20:51.22 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: ok, you're right. see http://www.khensu.org/index.php?itemid=142 |
| 20:51.31 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: sorry for misleading you |
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| 20:51.53 | buu | So. Anyone familiar with attaching more than 8 sata drives? |
| 20:51.56 | joni_ | bizkit: readed it about 10times. crontab file. in file reads: @reboot [command that starts vncserver]. that server never shows up |
| 20:52.02 | buu | OR at lest, making linux recognize them? Because mine ain't. |
| 20:52.20 | eegore_ | xorg is not seeing the nvidia driver |
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| 20:52.43 | bizkit | joni_: create an init script for such things... |
| 20:52.49 | Coweater | buu: what kernel? |
| 20:52.54 | buu | Coweater: 2.8.14 |
| 20:52.55 | Gathond | joni_: actually I have had problems with exactly that one as well, i dont know if cron runs the reboot jobs before everything vncserver needs are up and running |
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| 20:53.08 | eegore_ | I went to reconfigure the xserver and the nvidia option is not present |
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| 20:53.29 | joni_ | Gathond: any way to add delay to it? |
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| 20:53.39 | buu | Coweater: 2.6.14-2-686-smp apparently. |
| 20:53.41 | BrianHV | is there a way to determine which installed packages have nothing depending on them? |
| 20:53.50 | sjaakz0r | chealer_ but I cna't apt-get update it for some reason |
| 20:53.58 | sjaakz0r | when I add those sources to sources.list |
| 20:54.10 | Gathond | joni_: mind that I am not sure that is it, but you could probably make the command a script and start the vnc startup script with a sleep 60 or something like that |
| 20:54.16 | joni_ | bizkit: init script. what man i should read now? |
| 20:54.39 | Gathond | joni_: only problem I can see there is if cron freezes the system until all @reboot jobs are completed |
| 20:54.44 | poncha|laptop | i have a box with two network adapers. on one side there is a local eth subnet, on the second one is wireless router (3com officeconnect) which is an uplink for everything through cable modem, but since it is a wireless router, it's also running a second subnet for wireless clients... now, question is how can i make my smb/nmb visible from that wireless subnet? i obviousely need to make my linux box to re-broadcast smb/nmb packets to the other |
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| 20:54.49 | gravity | Hrm, whatsisname never got back with the log or the config file |
| 20:55.08 | joni_ | Gathond: its daemon so it shouldn't? |
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| 20:55.30 | Gathond | joni_: I know, but the @reboot jobs might have a special status |
| 20:55.48 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me why I can't apt-get update with deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia sarge modules in my sources.list ? |
| 20:55.49 | joni_ | Gathond: and man says nothing :) cool |
| 20:55.53 | bizkit | joni_: man init, just create a script in /etc/init.d using the skeleton and enable it using update-rc.d |
| 20:56.09 | Gathond | joni_: but you could just try:) |
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| 20:56.22 | joni_ | bizkit: omg u speak wierd things (skeleton, update-rc.d) |
| 20:56.35 | Gathond | joni_: for me its more or less a non issue, as I just start vnc myself if I need it and never close it again:) |
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| 20:57.05 | joni_ | Gathond: i might have to come to same result |
| 20:57.17 | joni_ | bizkit: any how to start that script only wiht user n? |
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| 20:57.39 | Gathond | joni_: but try delaying it |
| 20:58.13 | poncha|laptop | right now i have to access the machines by ip.. which may be good security-wise , but is not very comfortable :) |
| 20:58.14 | joni_ | Gathond: i don't exactly want to :) delay is baad thing to handle problems |
| 20:58.19 | bizkit | joni_: /etc/init.d/skeleton is a simple example of how an init script should look like, copy it to /etc/init.d/vncserv, edit it and run update-rc.d vncserv defaults |
| 20:58.36 | c0redump | im doing a net install of debian sarge, but somehow i cant get the network to work...i tried woody too, and it worked right from the box, so the nic is fine, lsmod returns no errors concerning the nic, its seems all right. is this a known issue with sarge or am i missing something here??? |
| 20:58.40 | Gathond | joni_: yes, but it would show whether my idea is actually correct:) |
| 20:58.51 | bizkit | joni_: use start-stop-daemon to run it with a certain uid |
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| 20:59.09 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: well, "some reason" is pretty vague, it's hard to help you |
| 20:59.12 | joni_ | bizkit: ok, any idea how to make that vncserver runned only by user n |
| 20:59.30 | joni_ | i don't want root to open vncserver |
| 20:59.42 | bizkit | joni_: like i said, use start-stop-daemon to switch the uid |
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| 21:00.07 | joni_ | bizkit: ??? ok ... |
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| 21:02.02 | joni_ | i looked that skeleton and looks hard :E so many new words :) |
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| 21:02.55 | DevilChaos | Eulex: you still there? |
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| 21:03.03 | bizkit | poncha|laptop: perhaps #samba could help you more |
| 21:03.23 | Lord_Athur | hi all |
| 21:03.31 | poncha|laptop | bizkit, thanks |
| 21:03.48 | row | Are most generic sata cards supported in debian by now? |
| 21:03.49 | azeem | w 31 |
| 21:03.52 | azeem | bah |
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| 21:04.48 | bobbens | row: debian doesnt support hardware, the kernel does. I'd also like to know though... |
| 21:05.13 | buu | row: Mine are, kind of |
| 21:05.18 | row | bobbens: true. |
| 21:05.24 | sjaakz0r | ok |
| 21:05.39 | bizkit | !punish azeem for missing the slash / |
| 21:05.46 | bizkit | hello azeem ;) |
| 21:05.48 | row | I found a card that is apparently supported, but rebranded, so its possible they changed the hardware since, not sure if I should take the risk |
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| 21:06.33 | DevilChaos | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:07.12 | oxo | Hi! I am having a little problem with X. I was trying to install amd64 Sarge and my the "nv" driver isn't working... it says "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"... |
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| 21:07.42 | bizkit | DevilChaos: in many cases you need nothing since they run via PS/2 or IMPS/2 |
| 21:07.51 | oxo | On this computer the same card and XF86config works great (with i386 Sarge) |
| 21:07.51 | bizkit | DevilChaos: synaptic? |
| 21:08.08 | jomo39292 | anybody know how to access the other computer on the network via KDE desktop environment? |
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| 21:08.26 | tarzeau | !ru |
| 21:08.27 | dpkg | Unless you mean Mother Russia, Spell it out: "are you". see r. see u. Pogalujsta, zajdite na #debian-russian :) |
| 21:08.28 | jomo39292 | anybody know how to access the other computer on the network via KDE desktop environment? |
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| 21:08.44 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 21:08.44 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 21:08.51 | tarzeau | jomo39292: yes |
| 21:09.05 | bizkit | !seen anybody |
| 21:09.05 | dpkg | i haven't seen 'anybody', bizkit |
| 21:09.17 | bizkit | wasn't there anybody in here some time ago? |
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| 21:09.37 | jomo39292 | is there app like file manager in KDE like ther was in GNOME desktop? |
| 21:09.45 | DevilChaos | bizkit: how do i know if it is synaptic? |
| 21:09.51 | gravity | jomo39292: konqueror |
| 21:10.07 | jomo39292 | ok, konqueror doesn't show my other network |
| 21:10.08 | lol | is anyone a computer hardware pro here |
| 21:10.55 | bizkit | jomo39292: perhaps #debian-kde can help you more? dunno, sorry |
| 21:11.03 | c0redump | does really no one know anything about this network problem i described??? |
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| 21:11.34 | bizkit | c0redump: you have to specify your problem to get a good answer.. |
| 21:11.43 | c0redump | i did... |
| 21:11.46 | c0redump | im doing a net install of debian sarge, but somehow i cant get the network to work...i tried woody too, and it worked right from the box, so the nic is fine, lsmod returns no errors concerning the nic, its seems all right. is this a known issue with sarge or am i missing something here??? |
| 21:11.58 | bizkit | Coweater: i read that, but it doesn't help me |
| 21:12.08 | bizkit | sorry Coweater, i meant c0redump |
| 21:12.08 | sjaakz0r | can anyone help me with apt? I don't really understand how I should add a sentence to sources.list |
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| 21:12.40 | c0redump | when doing dhclient eth0 i just get no response, while i know the dhcp server is fine... |
| 21:13.25 | c0redump | when i boot from a woody net install cd it configures my nic just fine... |
| 21:13.31 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: you don't need it, just download the matching .deb file and do dpkg -i file.deb |
| 21:13.33 | noob1 | today my hdd suddenly broke and started doin strange noises, anyone hav an idea |
| 21:13.33 | c0redump | its getting an ipadres an moves on... |
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| 21:13.44 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: well, you use an editor |
| 21:14.14 | bizkit | chealer_: i guess he's still trying to get the nvidia package.. |
| 21:14.23 | noob1 | whos good whith hardware here} |
| 21:14.24 | c0redump | i c'ant imagine this step differs so much in sarge from woody.. |
| 21:14.31 | bizkit | c0redump: what does ifconfig eth0 say? |
| 21:14.33 | chealer_ | bizkit: I guess |
| 21:14.54 | bizkit | !tell c0redump about paste |
| 21:14.57 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: note that you have at least 2 ways to avoid doing that, one of which bizkit suggested |
| 21:14.59 | c0redump | nothing,...its up, but it doesnt have an ipadres, unless i conigure it with a static adres... |
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| 21:15.22 | sjaakz0r | yes but I want it in sources.list ...I don't see the problem in doing that? |
| 21:15.34 | bizkit | c0redump: what happends when you run the dhclient manually? |
| 21:15.42 | bizkit | -d |
| 21:15.45 | c0redump | it just times out |
| 21:15.46 | chealer_ | sjaakz0r: maybe, we don't see it neither, so don't expect help without explaining the issue |
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| 21:16.08 | sjaakz0r | chealer_ I said it? |
| 21:16.24 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me why I can't apt-get update with deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia sarge modules in my sources.list ? <--- |
| 21:16.37 | worthy | can someone please help a newbie get an mplayer gui. i only have non gui |
| 21:16.40 | c0redump | it tries a few times and then stops with the message that it cant get a lease |
| 21:16.42 | noob1 | can someone helo me |
| 21:16.45 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia stable/i386/, deb http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia modules-stable/i386/ |
| 21:16.48 | noob1 | help`` |
| 21:16.50 | bizkit | sjaakz0r: happy now? :) |
| 21:16.54 | worthy | halo noob1 |
| 21:16.55 | worthy | hehehe |
| 21:16.57 | noob1 | hi |
| 21:17.27 | c0redump | but even if i configure it to have a static ipadres it cant communicate with other pc's in the network... |
| 21:17.28 | chealer_ | bizkit: stable won't work though |
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| 21:17.47 | bizkit | chealer_: sarge is stable |
| 21:17.55 | worthy | im loving this sarge |
| 21:18.10 | Overand | i just told my friend to do a dpkg-reconfigure on xfree86-common, and he's getthing: parse error in file /var/lib/dpkg/available line 28672 package ldap-gateways value for status field not allowed in this context |
| 21:18.25 | chealer_ | bizkit: yeah, but there's no 7174 module in http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/stable/i386/ |
| 21:18.37 | worthy | i wanted debian for a long time but those 7 cd'z were complicated for a country girl. someone told me about the sarge mini cd and install from internet |
| 21:18.47 | worthy | i'll never drive another distro :-) |
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| 21:18.58 | bbrazil | worthy: you could do the same on woody :) |
| 21:19.03 | TriKster-Abacus | I just used on Debian 3.1 cdrom and chose desktop/server and I was set |
| 21:19.07 | TriKster-Abacus | on/one |
| 21:19.09 | worthy | really bbrazil ? |
| 21:19.12 | worthy | gee |
| 21:19.15 | worthy | anyway |
| 21:19.20 | worthy | can someone please help a newbie get an mplayer gui. i only have non gui |
| 21:19.27 | noob1 | errrr. someone now what how i can get my computer workin> operating system not found>windows xp |
| 21:19.35 | bizkit | chealer_: sorry i can't remeber.. does he need these? why not using any other version? |
| 21:19.44 | eegore | has anyone had any experience getting tor and privoxy to work in etch? |
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| 21:20.04 | noob1 | help |
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| 21:20.17 | bizkit | worthy: start gmplayer? |
| 21:20.24 | chealer_ | bizkit: well, I'd try using stable's version if I used stable. anyway, there are no precompiled modules in that directory either |
| 21:20.27 | worthy | ok let me see bizkit |
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| 21:20.56 | bizkit | chealer_: http://people.debian.org/~rdonald/nvidia/APT |
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| 21:21.12 | worthy | ok command not found |
| 21:21.17 | worthy | i'll have to go get it |
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| 21:21.31 | bizkit | worthy: how did you install it? using the marillat sources? |
| 21:22.24 | worthy | cd mplayer ./configure - make - make install bizkit |
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| 21:22.46 | bizkit | worthy: uh.. ./configure --help, look for --enable-gui |
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| 21:23.02 | worthy | ok |
| 21:23.02 | chealer_ | bizkit: you're right. I looked only at the first one you mentionned |
| 21:24.15 | layziie`[g0ne] | what is the command for the x setup |
| 21:24.25 | c0redump | anyone had any problems with dhcp during install of sarge??? |
| 21:24.26 | layziie`[g0ne] | i messed up my graphics driver selection |
| 21:24.28 | layziie`[g0ne] | and x wont run |
| 21:24.34 | bizkit | layziie`[g0ne]: xfree86 or xorg? |
| 21:24.38 | layziie`[g0ne] | xfree |
| 21:24.51 | bizkit | layziie`[g0ne]: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 21:24.52 | Siv0x | he's on vmware |
| 21:25.00 | layziie`[g0ne] | yup |
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| 21:25.04 | Siv0x | so he needs to pick vmware as his graphics card |
| 21:25.08 | Siv0x | thats it layziie` |
| 21:25.18 | Malagmyr | How can I chance which card is eth0 and which is eth1? |
| 21:25.42 | layziie`[g0ne] | bizkit it didnt do anything |
| 21:25.53 | worthy | what does this mean bizkit: --enable-gui enable gmplayer compilation (GTK 1.2 GUI) [disable] |
| 21:26.18 | worthy | its disabled |
| 21:26.21 | worthy | how do i enable it |
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| 21:26.27 | bizkit | worthy: the default is disable the gui, so that's why you don't have gmplayer, configure with --enable-gui |
| 21:26.39 | worthy | ok |
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| 21:26.56 | layziie`[g0ne] | bizkit it didnt do anything |
| 21:27.10 | bizkit | Malagmyr: imho that's possible via passing options to the bootprompt, but don't ask me which ones |
| 21:27.15 | kspath | Any sort of Debian Cert Program? |
| 21:27.15 | layziie`[g0ne] | command not found |
| 21:27.38 | bizkit | layziie`[g0ne]: no dpkg-reconfigure? |
| 21:27.46 | layziie`[g0ne] | nope |
| 21:27.58 | bizkit | are you root? |
| 21:28.01 | layziie`[g0ne] | no |
| 21:28.01 | layziie`[g0ne] | lol |
| 21:28.03 | Siv0x | lol |
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| 21:28.26 | chealer_ | Malagmyr: try ifrename |
| 21:28.30 | layziie`[g0ne] | there |
| 21:28.34 | ke6isf | blarg, accidentally halted my workstation;. |
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| 21:29.12 | layziie`[g0ne] | what si the video cards BUS identifier |
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| 21:29.19 | layziie`[g0ne] | is* |
| 21:29.32 | Siv0x | don't worry about that |
| 21:29.35 | Siv0x | hit enter there :> |
| 21:29.38 | bizkit | layziie`[g0ne]: lspci and get it |
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| 21:29.48 | layziie`[g0ne] | lspci? |
| 21:29.50 | layziie`[g0ne] | hu? |
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| 21:29.55 | Siv0x | type that command lol |
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| 21:30.03 | layziie`[g0ne] | im at the screen tho |
| 21:30.04 | layziie`[g0ne] | i cant |
| 21:30.06 | ma3x | hello, need some serious help, anyone voulenteer? kernel related |
| 21:30.24 | bizkit | !tell ma3x about ask |
| 21:30.24 | layziie`[g0ne] | what ammount do iuse in KB for my card |
| 21:30.26 | layziie`[g0ne] | of memory |
| 21:30.38 | ma3x | bizkit i know but nobody has been answering |
| 21:30.52 | ma3x | ok, I'm trying to boot from the knoppix CD and dpkg-reconfigure linux-image2.6.14-2-686 |
| 21:31.25 | ma3x | but when it comes to creating the initrd image, it says: /etc/fstab:5 fatal |
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| 21:31.34 | ma3x | and something like /dev/hda2 not available |
| 21:31.36 | ma3x | or something like that |
| 21:31.38 | bizkit | ma3x: i see the error above.. you need sysfs support in your kernel |
| 21:31.42 | layziie`[g0ne] | what ammount do iuse in KB for my card |
| 21:31.55 | bizkit | layziie`[g0ne]: just hit enter, it get's auto-detected |
| 21:32.00 | ma3x | bizkit what's sysfs? |
| 21:32.19 | bizkit | ma3x: the stuff that gives you /sys |
| 21:32.31 | maxb | I've written a script which sends mail about installed/removed deb packages. If it runs whilst some dpkg action is in progress, then it may report confusing intermediate states. I'm not running the script as root, so I can't take a lock on /var/lib/dpkg/lock. Does anyone know of any way of telling whether there is some dpkg operation in progress without being able to try grabbing that lock? |
| 21:33.15 | bizkit | !sysfs |
| 21:33.15 | dpkg | cd /usr/src/linux-`uname -r`/Documentation; grep -r sysfs * |
| 21:33.22 | ma3x | bizkit I think it's installed, but it's looking for it at hda3 |
| 21:33.24 | chealer_ | I got an answer to my synaptic question. the Dep-Wait was set manually |
| 21:33.25 | ma3x | and I have hda2 now |
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| 21:33.37 | ma3x | bizkit so where do I change that? is there some config file for the sysfs? |
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| 21:33.54 | dimir_ | Evenink! |
| 21:33.55 | bizkit | ma3x: when do you get this error? |
| 21:34.03 | ma3x | bizkit on boot |
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| 21:34.16 | ma3x | bizkit the error is bin/cat : sys/block/hda/hda3/dev no such file... |
| 21:34.20 | ma3x | and I have hda2 |
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| 21:34.32 | bizkit | specify 'on boot |
| 21:34.34 | Siv0x | dayziie`: is it working? |
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| 21:34.54 | worthy | bizkit: Check "configure.log" if you do not understand why it failed. |
| 21:34.59 | bizkit | ma3x: before entering a runlevel? is it in dmesg? |
| 21:35.04 | layziie`[g0ne] | at the main screen |
| 21:35.08 | layziie`[g0ne] | where it says natilus |
| 21:35.10 | layziie`[g0ne] | is it loading |
| 21:35.16 | worthy | i looked at configure.log and i don't understand it |
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| 21:35.26 | ma3x- | erm got disconnected |
| 21:35.31 | Siv0x | hmm, i dunno ;\ |
| 21:35.42 | ma3x- | bizkit still there? |
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| 21:35.48 | bizkit | worthy: you need some dev-libs for that, i suggest you using precompiled mplayer stuff from marillat |
| 21:35.53 | bizkit | !tell worthy about marillat |
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| 21:36.30 | bizkit | ma3x-: sure, but specify the time this messages appears. is it in dmesg? |
| 21:36.45 | worthy | !tell worthy marillat key |
| 21:37.01 | chealer_ | !tell worthy about selftell |
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| 21:37.20 | ma3x- | bizkit the time is not the problem. it's just like that yaird bug, remember?/ |
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| 21:37.41 | Siv0x | whats the command to switch things over to KDE from gnome? |
| 21:37.54 | bizkit | ma3x-: no?.. i'm just trying to figure out if its before you enter a runlevel? |
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| 21:38.13 | chealer_ | Siv0x: there's not necessarily a command is KDE installed? is a display manager installed? |
| 21:38.15 | ma3x- | bizkit if you tell me what's runlevel, i'll tell you |
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| 21:38.55 | Siv0x | yeh |
| 21:38.56 | Siv0x | its installed |
| 21:39.01 | Siv0x | ok |
| 21:39.03 | Siv0x | let me explain |
| 21:39.04 | bizkit | ma3x-: run 'dmesg' and search for the error |
| 21:39.13 | daxxar | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.14 | daxxar | err |
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| 21:39.18 | daxxar | Nevermind that. :P |
| 21:39.20 | bizkit | :) |
| 21:39.39 | Siv0x | when i login it takes me strait to gnome, and i want the nice login screens, etc, and so i can go to session, then switch to KDE |
| 21:39.49 | ma3x- | bizkit I can't. now I'm in windows. I should boot in knoppix and do that. |
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| 21:39.57 | marc_in_lux | good evening |
| 21:40.02 | chealer_ | Siv0x: when you login to what exactly? |
| 21:40.11 | marc_in_lux | I'm currently using autofs to mount a usb harddrive |
| 21:40.16 | Siv0x | when i login and 'startx' |
| 21:40.25 | bizkit | ma3x-: there's support for ext2fs on windows.. |
| 21:40.32 | marc_in_lux | now I'd like to automatically have it mounted and a script startet when I plug it in. |
| 21:40.39 | marc_in_lux | How can I do that? |
| 21:40.52 | bucky | Siv0x: apt-get kdm or gdm |
| 21:41.11 | bizkit | marc_in_lux: use any hotplug daemon.. |
| 21:41.15 | kspath | OMG linux certifications tend to be so weak and out of date one mentions 2.2 versus 2.4 and comparison as if 2.6 does not exist |
| 21:41.16 | chealer_ | Siv0x: ah, that's different. bucky's suggestion could do |
| 21:41.30 | Siv0x | ? |
| 21:41.36 | ma3x- | bizkit where was dmesg exactly located? /var/log/dmesg? |
| 21:41.45 | bizkit | ma3x-: yes |
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| 21:41.55 | bucky | marc_in_lux: hotplug can trigger events |
| 21:42.09 | Siv0x | will apt-get kdm switch me to kde ? |
| 21:42.23 | Siv0x | and how do get a login screen? |
| 21:42.27 | Siv0x | like |
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| 21:42.30 | bizkit | !tell marc_in_lux about hotplug |
| 21:42.50 | Siv0x | instead of loging in konsole based |
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| 21:43.07 | zeballin3 | Siv0x: did you install kde? |
| 21:43.09 | bizkit | Siv0x: you have to set your default window manager and get it started from rc2.d |
| 21:43.24 | thelsdj | if i'm using debian as a syslog server, how can i redirect logs from a specific host to their own file? |
| 21:43.27 | Siv0x | sec |
| 21:43.47 | vali | thelsdj, try syslog-ng |
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| 21:45.05 | chealer_ | bizkit: installing kdm/?dm should do. good night |
| 21:45.11 | bucky | marc_in_lux: somthing like this? http://www.xs4all.nl/~bsamwel/usb_storage_on_debian.html |
| 21:45.22 | chealer_ | Siv0x: did you install kdm? |
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| 21:45.44 | Siv0x | hold up |
| 21:45.52 | thelsdj | vali: so not possible with the default sysklogd? |
| 21:46.10 | marc_in_lux | well... this is not trivial, it seems |
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| 21:46.30 | Siv0x | ok, after i got kdm |
| 21:46.33 | Siv0x | how do i switch to kde |
| 21:46.41 | marc_in_lux | there is no such thing as a common hotplug config file where I can somehow identify my drive and add some action to it? |
| 21:46.47 | Siv0x | and have the login screen |
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| 21:46.53 | Siv0x | so i don't have to login konsole baed |
| 21:46.55 | Siv0x | based** |
| 21:47.00 | chealer_ | Siv0x: did you try rebooting? come back if you have more questions |
| 21:47.07 | Siv0x | k |
| 21:47.09 | Siv0x | thx |
| 21:47.13 | Thug-N-Me | how do i mount my secound hard driver ? |
| 21:48.10 | ma3x- | bizkit I don't see nothing about the problem in dmesg, maybe after reboot it's cleared |
| 21:48.22 | Overand | hey |
| 21:48.22 | klync | Thug-N-Me: there are lots of ways depending on what you want |
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| 21:48.38 | Overand | how can i rebuild /var/lib/dpkg/available ? |
| 21:48.41 | bucky | marc_in_lux: this might be better http://www.qsl.net/n0nb/linux/debianhotplug.html |
| 21:48.52 | Overand | shouldn't apt-get update do that? |
| 21:49.05 | Thug-N-Me | klync ii justt want to mount it in /mnt/Hard1 |
| 21:49.36 | klync | Thug-N-Me: ok, so if you've created a dir there as a mount point, you can do it from the command line or by adding a line to /etc/fstab |
| 21:50.04 | ma3x- | bizkit so it's probably before runlevel! |
| 21:50.06 | klync | Thug-N-Me: is the whole drive a single partition? |
| 21:50.10 | ma3x- | bizkit what now? |
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| 21:50.42 | Thug-N-Me | klync yes |
| 21:50.50 | marc_in_lux | bucky, that looks quite good, indeed. thanks. |
| 21:51.01 | klync | Thug-N-Me: you can see all the disks/partitions by doing `fdisk -l` |
| 21:51.04 | marc_in_lux | I wonder why I didn't find that myself when googlling... |
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| 21:51.10 | Thug-N-Me | klync but i dont know where my secound hard drive is /dev/? |
| 21:51.21 | blondie | /dev/hdb1 ? |
| 21:51.47 | Thug-N-Me | klync " fdisk -l " has no output |
| 21:52.00 | Siv0x | wich login screen looks nicer, kdm or gdm? |
| 21:52.28 | klync | Thug-N-Me: run the command as root? |
| 21:52.35 | chealer_ | Siv0x: you can try them both. kdm has some advantages when used with KDE |
| 21:52.46 | Thug-N-Me | klync yes |
| 21:53.02 | klync | Thug-N-Me: is is ide, sata or scsi? |
| 21:53.05 | Thug-N-Me | klync whoami root |
| 21:53.36 | Thug-N-Me | klync well actually i have two one sata one scsi |
| 21:53.42 | Farris1 | Any suggestions for troubleshooting NFS slowness? I've ruled out disk access on the server by testing speeds on the server itself. NFS is working at decent speed on one export, but slow on another |
| 21:54.14 | Siv0x | k |
| 21:54.30 | zeballin3 | Siv0x: kdm |
| 21:54.38 | klync | Thug-N-Me: `dmesg | grep "[hs]d"` might help |
| 21:54.40 | Siv0x | i chose kdm |
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| 21:55.52 | segdefoult | Wich is the best pocket pc ? |
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| 21:55.53 | Thug-N-Me | klync dmesg | grep "[hs]d |
| 21:55.53 | Thug-N-Me | > |
| 21:55.53 | Thug-N-Me | nothing |
| 21:56.14 | klync | Thug-N-Me: apparently there are no disks connected to your system ??? |
| 21:56.29 | klync | Thug-N-Me: does `dmesg | less` have any useful info at all in it? |
| 21:56.33 | Thug-N-Me | well i can see them before i boot the system in bios |
| 21:57.10 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: what sata/scsi controllers do you have? |
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| 21:57.36 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj dont really know |
| 21:57.40 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: lspci should tell you |
| 21:57.45 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj let me look at the scsi controller |
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| 21:58.00 | thelsdj | on mine it shows: 01:0b.0 RAID bus controller: Silicon Image, Inc. SiI 3112 [SATALink/SATARaid] Serial ATA Controller (rev 02) |
| 21:58.16 | Thug-N-Me | 0000:00:1f.2 IDE interface: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FW (ICH6/ICH6W) SATA Controller(rev 03) |
| 21:58.29 | Agrajag- | does anyone happen to know of an app that will output exif data from photos? im writing a script to rename a whole lot of photos and want to rename them according to the exif capture date field |
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| 21:58.48 | Thug-N-Me | 0000:02:03.0 Unknown mass storage controller: Promise Technology, Inc. PDC20267(FastTrak100/Ultra100) (rev 02) |
| 21:58.52 | Thug-N-Me | ans this is mi scsi |
| 21:58.55 | Thug-N-Me | *my |
| 21:59.00 | Thug-N-Me | Promise Technology |
| 21:59.03 | thelsdj | ok so you need to have those drivers |
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| 21:59.13 | thelsdj | compiled into kernel or as modules |
| 21:59.17 | Thug-N-Me | right |
| 21:59.22 | Thug-N-Me | how do i make that ? |
| 21:59.26 | Thug-N-Me | where do i get the drivers from ? |
| 21:59.42 | thelsdj | do you already have system installed? or booting from cd? |
| 21:59.42 | blondie | Mars |
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| 21:59.50 | saloxin | Agrajag-: apt-cache search exif |
| 21:59.51 | KerPlunk_ | !tell Thug-N-Me about enter |
| 21:59.54 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj sysem installed |
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| 22:00.52 | Thug-N-Me | KerPlunk_ ok sorry |
| 22:01.13 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: what does uname -r say? |
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| 22:01.29 | Thug-N-Me | kernel 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 22:01.43 | worthy | !tell me marilatt |
| 22:02.11 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: so look in /lib/modules/<kernel version>/kernel/drivers/scsi |
| 22:02.23 | thelsdj | possible that you've already got those drivers and just need to modproble them |
| 22:02.36 | cheal | worthy: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 22:02.48 | SimonRaven | worthy: 'tell me about' |
| 22:02.51 | SimonRaven | or ^^ |
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| 22:03.34 | worthy | ok |
| 22:03.42 | worthy | !tell me about marillat |
| 22:03.45 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj ok scsi its there sata not |
| 22:03.51 | ke6isf | !tell worthy -about msg the bot |
| 22:03.52 | SimonRaven | use /msg |
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| 22:04.14 | worthy | ok ke6isf |
| 22:04.20 | ke6isf | worthy: Glad to help. =^^= |
| 22:04.30 | thelsdj | i don't even know if that sata is available in 2.4 or what the driver name is but you'll want to do some research i bet |
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| 22:05.00 | SimonRaven | 2.6 has better SATAn |
| 22:05.01 | klync | alright, i'm trying to figure out why i don't have a /dev/snd/seq even tho the module snd_seq_device is loaded |
| 22:05.15 | MotoHoss | wierd. "run as different user" works for gui progs requiring root... but if you click on one of them(gui progs requiring root) from the "Applications" menu they fail. Example "Root Terminal".. google and man no help. so far... |
| 22:05.20 | ma3x | I am having the following problem on boot up: VFS: Can not open root device "hda2" or unknown block(0,0). Please append a correct "root=" boot option. Kernel Panic- not syncing VFS......... any help please? |
| 22:05.37 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj so what do you think , should i install the 2.6 ? |
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| 22:06.38 | Jacky^ | hi all |
| 22:06.40 | KerPlunk_ | !tell worthy about msgdpkg |
| 22:06.51 | furgar | how do you uninstall something that you compiled from source? |
| 22:06.57 | SimonRaven | klync: sh /usr/share/alsa-base/snddevices |
| 22:07.03 | buu | Hrm. How do I know if mdadm is a module or compiled into my kernel? |
| 22:07.03 | Jacky^ | whats the best license to use today for a free WIKI ? |
| 22:07.08 | KerPlunk_ | furgar: same as installing it.. "make install" and "make uninstall" |
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| 22:07.37 | KerPlunk_ | Jacky^: You want to create a wiki software...and you aren't sure how to license it? |
| 22:08.09 | Jacky^ | KerPlunk_: a documentation wiki , maybe containing some software too |
| 22:08.20 | Jim2 | Have a question on hardware requirements for Debian. Currently have a P///-550 w 512MB RAM. Is there a distro that is still capable of running on that old hardware? |
| 22:08.24 | klync | SimonRaven: interesting... that worked... is that a one-time fix or do i need to do something else? |
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| 22:08.47 | klync | ls /usr/share/alsa-base/ |
| 22:08.51 | klync | duh, sorry |
| 22:08.54 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj still wanna help me? |
| 22:08.54 | King_Brad | in debian is it /etc/networks/interface or network/interface ? |
| 22:09.18 | cheal | Jim2: which old hardware? |
| 22:09.23 | SimonRaven | klync: one time, un;ess you have udev, which is supposed to do something like that 'automatically' |
| 22:09.33 | DevilChaos | ok guys my touch pad just decided not to work any assistance would be appreciated i cant find the help page that helped me the last ime with my pc im using advent laptop with touchpad? |
| 22:09.44 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: i think for my 2.6 kernel the intel sata module is called ata_piix |
| 22:09.57 | DevilChaos | i have devmouse and psmouse modules loaded |
| 22:09.58 | klync | SimonRaven: i'm a bit confused bc i do have udev... so, did i just create a bunch of static nodes? should there be a udev config for this instead? |
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| 22:10.03 | thelsdj | so double check to see if you have that in that /lib/modules/whatever/kernel/drivers/scsi dir |
| 22:10.17 | DevilChaos | pointer just stays still at the login prompt |
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| 22:10.33 | worthy | i did all i could do get the mplayer gui :-( i even added the repository addresses from that web site - nothing downloaded |
| 22:10.54 | SimonRaven | klync: there is. ordinarily it would, but for some reason it didn't. won't matter anyway since udev will see them and won't remove them unless it thinks it need to |
| 22:10.59 | JohnGH | Recently I've been getting an error in bash when I try and edit my current line in vi by pressing "v" - it says "bash: syntax error near unexpected token `)'" and then executes what there is on the line so far instead of launching vi - it happens for all users on the box |
| 22:11.09 | JohnGH | has anyone else seen this? |
| 22:11.20 | SimonRaven | alsa is one of things it gets right |
| 22:11.25 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj no its not there |
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| 22:11.42 | klync | SimonRaven: k, thx a bunch |
| 22:11.59 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj but i do have lots of sata scsi and als o ultrastor.o |
| 22:12.15 | buu | Using mdamn --create, it says "mdamn --create device --level..", what do I want to pass as device? |
| 22:12.22 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj how do i load the module into the kernel ? |
| 22:12.41 | odla | is there a way to upgrade ot testing right now with udev in the state it's in? i.e. will i be able to upgrade without my kernel going into maintainence mode? |
| 22:12.53 | worthy | i think i got it :-) |
| 22:12.58 | klync | buu: the first "device" is the md device, e.g. /dev/md0 ... you list the component devices at the end, e.g. /dev/sda1 |
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| 22:13.37 | buu | klync: Oh, ok. |
| 22:13.52 | Siv0x | how do i set my color depth lower? |
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| 22:14.44 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: modprobe <name, without extension> so if theres one called foo.o or foo.ko to load you'd do 'modprobe foo' |
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| 22:15.25 | buu | klync: What do I want as a --chunk size? |
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| 22:16.10 | klync | buu: you probably don't need to customize that... what raid level are you doing? |
| 22:16.16 | buu | klync: 5 |
| 22:16.21 | buu | I thought I had to pass it. |
| 22:16.24 | bleaked | could someone please clarify this deb kernel question: i have been using deb for about a month now. for specific reasons, i have had to compile a custom kernel. now, i am free to use the available deb kernels from now on. so, what package do i use, and where can i find a list of the available modules to load on boot. (i have a p3, and would like a 2.6 kernel) |
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| 22:16.42 | DevilChaos | anyone any suggestion for me please? |
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| 22:16.59 | klync | buu: maybe for 5 you do, but idunno what it should be... the manpage or the raid howto might answer that |
| 22:17.02 | DevilChaos | psmouse and mousedev already loaded |
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| 22:17.19 | agilman | Hello, I just installed and configured ffproxy, it works well. How would I add it to init ? |
| 22:17.20 | DevilChaos | still frozen at login screen |
| 22:17.27 | pipeline | bleaked: All modules available in the main tree that build correctly will be present in a debian packaged kernel. |
| 22:17.44 | worthy | as I look, I already have merillat in my sources.list - sarge, etch, and sid |
| 22:17.47 | Thug-N-Me | thelsdj most of them " failed |
| 22:17.58 | worthy | how did you guys get mplayer gui running just tell me |
| 22:18.10 | klync | bleaked: use kernel-package to make a .deb pkg of your custom kernel, and everything will work just like a stock kernel |
| 22:18.13 | SimonRaven | worthy: 'gmplayer' |
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| 22:18.19 | worthy | ok |
| 22:18.24 | cheal | DevilChaos: which kernel do you use? |
| 22:18.25 | buu | klync: Hrm. I just got an error 'error opening /dev/md0: no such file or directory' |
| 22:18.31 | rezzen | i'm trying to adjust my fluxbox/debian menu. according to Debian Menu System doco I can adjust or remove menu items by creating ~/.menu/package. To test, I've done "echo -n ~/.menu/gaim, ran update-menus (as root), and the entry remains. Can someone point in me in the right direction? |
| 22:18.32 | worthy | apt-get install gmplayer? |
| 22:18.33 | thelsdj | Thug-N-Me: sorry gotta run |
| 22:18.39 | klync | buu: is the raid5 module loaded or in kernel? |
| 22:18.49 | bleaked | klync. i know all of that, i would like to use one of the deb provided kernels. |
| 22:18.53 | buu | klync: Um. How can I tell? |
| 22:18.56 | Thug-N-Me | ok |
| 22:19.03 | dtech | hello everyone.. how do you boot rescue with the sarge cdroms? |
| 22:19.11 | rezzen | if i do "echo -n > /etc/menu/gaim" and update-menus, that works. but i onlly want to do for one usr. |
| 22:19.30 | klync | buu: you should have a file /proc/mdstat, and it'll say what raid levels are registered |
| 22:19.32 | rezzen | perms on ~/.menu are 755. |
| 22:19.33 | SimonRaven | worthy: no, it should already be there. also, you shouldn't mix sarge etch sid. you could mix etch and sid, and pin at etch for example, but not sarge. /msg dpkg bobbitt |
| 22:19.54 | klync | buu: and you can check dmesg ... if you're booting off of raid, you will need it built in to the kernel, not a module |
| 22:19.57 | buu | klync: Got nothing. |
| 22:19.58 | Thug-N-Me | SimonRaven what do you think should i get the 2.6 kernel ? does it make it easyer to load my sata and scsi hard drivers ? |
| 22:20.03 | buu | klync: I'm not booting off it |
| 22:20.07 | JohnGH | rezzen: no good running it as root - that dir is there for the user - not the system |
| 22:20.12 | buu | klync: no /proc/mdstat I mean |
| 22:20.27 | bleaked | pipeline. i am aware of that..but traditionally i have never used modules..i always compiled in, and so thus, i don't know the names of the modules and what features they correspond to. i want to ditch compiling and use the deb provided kernels, and thus i have to learn about modules. |
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| 22:21.01 | klync | bleaked: run udev and it will get just about everything you need without having to worry |
| 22:21.08 | worthy | i didn't mix nothing. im just trying to apt-get insatll, mplayer, gmplayer, and mplayer-386 1:1.0-pre7cvs20060103-0.0 and nothing is coming |
| 22:21.18 | klync | buu: well, if you don't need it built in, then you can just modprobe it |
| 22:21.21 | bleaked | Thug-N-Me. yes, go 2.6. it has better support all around. plus it's faster and has more features. 2.4 is practically dead. |
| 22:21.22 | rezzen | JohnGH: Thanks. I've run update-menus as user, still no change in menu. |
| 22:21.24 | odla | i don't like udev |
| 22:21.37 | DevilChaos | cheal:2.6.8 i386 |
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| 22:21.51 | cheal | DevilChaos: which mouse device is X set to use? |
| 22:22.09 | bleaked | klync. what does udev have to do with loading kernel modules? and yes, i already run udev. |
| 22:22.12 | buu | klync: modprobe raid5; ? |
| 22:22.14 | DevilChaos | well this is my problem not sure |
| 22:22.20 | SimonRaven | Thug-N-Me: the sata support is better in 2.6; scsi support is ok. not better nor worse than 2.4 (IME) |
| 22:22.28 | bleaked | odla. you should, devfs is dying. |
| 22:22.29 | DevilChaos | i want the touchpad to work |
| 22:22.42 | JohnGH | rezzen: you just said: I've done "echo -n ~/.menu/gaim |
| 22:22.47 | JohnGH | what does that do? |
| 22:22.48 | Thug-N-Me | bleaked thanks |
| 22:22.54 | worthy | so where do i get mplayer or gmplayer and how do i install it as gui without creating a bobbit SimonRaven |
| 22:23.01 | SimonRaven | devfs is *dead* as of 2.6.11 IIRC. udev emulates it |
| 22:23.05 | buu | klync: Ok, I can modprobe that |
| 22:23.11 | rezzen | sorry--type. I created empty file named ~/.menu/gaim |
| 22:23.17 | rezzen | s/type/typo/ |
| 22:23.20 | SimonRaven | worthy: try just running 'gmplayer' in a terminal |
| 22:23.23 | buu | klync: Now I've got a /proc/mdstat that lists raid5, but no /dev/md0 |
| 22:23.26 | odla | bleaked: udev prevents me from upgrading to testing |
| 22:23.27 | worthy | ok |
| 22:23.28 | DevilChaos | cheal:ive got gdm working just with the frozen pointer in the middle |
| 22:23.31 | Thug-N-Me | SimonRaven it will be also nice to tell me whats the right apt upgrade command for the kernel 2.6 please |
| 22:23.32 | bobbens | SimonRaven: i thought up until 2.6.13 there was still real devfs support |
| 22:23.37 | odla | or the current version in testing does at least |
| 22:23.38 | JohnGH | rezzen: can you explain what you actually did please? |
| 22:23.38 | klync | buu: ya, but the create command should work now |
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| 22:23.47 | cheal | DevilChaos: but which mouse device does X use? |
| 22:23.58 | SimonRaven | bobbens: like i said, 'IIRC' :). thanks |
| 22:23.59 | worthy | bash: gmplayer: command not found SimonRaven |
| 22:24.02 | buu | klync: Oh, ok |
| 22:24.09 | rezzen | JohnGH: # echo -n > ~/.menu/gaim ; update-menus |
| 22:24.10 | buu | klync: Nope, same error |
| 22:24.22 | rezzen | JohnGH: Gaim still appears in Apps/Net |
| 22:24.23 | DevilChaos | cheal:think i added something to xorg.conf the last time i had trouble with this and cant remember how i sorted it |
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| 22:24.31 | JohnGH | rezzen: i.e. "touch ~/.menu/gaim" ? |
| 22:24.33 | bleaked | worthy. type /msg dpkg mplayer read what dpkg has to say..and then type marillat to him as he suggests. |
| 22:24.39 | bobbens | SimonRaven: just wanted to make sure, otherwise i tend to end up getting them mixed :) |
| 22:24.46 | SimonRaven | worthy: ok. well, if you have mplayer-386 installed it should be there |
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| 22:24.49 | worthy | ok |
| 22:25.10 | TriKster-Abacus | DevilChaos, what is your mouse set to in xorg.conf ? /dev/mouse or /dev/input/mice ? |
| 22:25.15 | worthy | i installedit Simon but it's not gui |
| 22:25.23 | DevilChaos | input/mice |
| 22:25.26 | SimonRaven | Thug-N-Me: kernels aren't upgraded that way. |
| 22:25.27 | DevilChaos | sorry |
| 22:25.42 | Jim2 | Have a question on hardware requirements for Debian. Currently have a P///-550 w 512MB RAM. Is there a distro that is still capable of running on that old hardware? |
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| 22:25.48 | SimonRaven | worthy: do 'which gmplayer' |
| 22:25.54 | worthy | ok |
| 22:26.00 | bobbens | Jim2: that's pretty good hardware |
| 22:26.02 | bleaked | worthy. basically, mplayer might violate debian's philosophy, and so it's excluded. marillat has debs for installing it though, so it's just a matter of adding his rep to your sources list. |
| 22:26.03 | rezzen | JohnGH: that's the way I initially created the empty file. |
| 22:26.07 | SimonRaven | Jim2: you're in the right channel |
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| 22:26.17 | worthy | it returned no answer SimonRaven |
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| 22:26.29 | SimonRaven | fuck, i wish i had 512 MB of RAM in this thing... |
| 22:26.36 | bobbens | Jim2: i've managed to get debian working with X on a pentium pro 166 mhz with 64 mb of ram :) flawlessly |
| 22:26.48 | worthy | it's repository is already in my surces.list bleaked |
| 22:26.48 | JohnGH | rezzen: can you point me to the doco where it says to create that file please? |
| 22:26.48 | embrik | What file do I edit to config rollerwheel on my mouse? |
| 22:26.51 | SimonRaven | worthy: what about dpkg -l mplayer-286 |
| 22:26.58 | SimonRaven | worthy: er, 386 |
| 22:27.08 | worthy | ok |
| 22:27.12 | bleaked | worthy. well, just apt-get install mplayer |
| 22:27.22 | rezzen | JohnHG: It's local, you probably have it too. file:///usr/share/doc/menu/html/ch6.html |
| 22:27.27 | cheal | DevilChaos: ok. what does # mdetect; output? |
| 22:27.32 | mfrisch | bobbens: I just got a 64 bit and donot know how I lived without it. |
| 22:27.35 | worthy | No packages found matching mplayer-386. SimonRaven |
| 22:27.44 | SimonRaven | i was going on the premise that worthy did have it installed ;) |
| 22:28.03 | SimonRaven | worthy: er, have you updated since you added the marillat sources? |
| 22:28.07 | worthy | Package mplayer is a virtual package provided by: |
| 22:28.07 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.07 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.07 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:28.07 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:28.07 | bobbens | mfrisch: the only thing I want more of is ram :) and maybe a gpu that works well |
| 22:28.40 | JohnGH | rezzen: chapter please? |
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| 22:28.52 | rezzen | JohnHG: 6 |
| 22:28.52 | worthy | i was stuck |
| 22:28.56 | mfrisch | bobbens: I have a "router" that is a 500Mhz 376 mb ram. |
| 22:29.03 | worthy | let me update my packages |
| 22:29.05 | SimonRaven | !tell worthy -about paster |
| 22:29.23 | bleaked | worthy. sorry, my bad. also, remember to not paste in the channel. |
| 22:29.26 | JohnGH | rezzen: no kidding - that whole page is chapter 6 - which section are you referring to - I mean - which one's advice are you taking? |
| 22:29.59 | bleaked | worthy. i guess i just installed mplayer-586 and it worked just fine. |
| 22:30.04 | bobbens | mfrisch: my "main" is amd athlon xp 2600+ with 512 ram, but i usually work with pentium I or II's :) Old computers are much more fun |
| 22:30.09 | rezzen | JohnGH: 6.2 |
| 22:30.20 | pipeline | bobbens: pentium era isn't old. |
| 22:30.31 | DevilChaos | cheal : hold on |
| 22:30.31 | pipeline | bobbens: I'm installing debian on a 25 MHz R3000. /that/ is old. |
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| 22:30.49 | SimonRaven | worthy: install what bleaked said and you should be ok (mplayer-586) |
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| 22:30.53 | DevilChaos | cheal: command not found |
| 22:31.00 | worthy | it gives me a list of versions to install and when i type: apt-get install mplayer-586 1:1.0-pre7cvs20060103-0.0 it says E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate |
| 22:31.09 | cheal | DevilChaos: ok. what does # apt-get install mdetect;mdetect; output? |
| 22:31.14 | bobbens | pipeline: mmm that might be overkill :) |
| 22:31.24 | bleaked | worthy. just install mplayer-586 |
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| 22:31.29 | worthy | ok |
| 22:31.36 | mfrisch | bobbens: I only had the pentium 3 and 2 for the longest time. I am making the p2 into a desktop for a friend. |
| 22:31.44 | layziie`[g0ne] | where do i adjust ym reslution agian? |
| 22:31.50 | layziie`[g0ne] | my resolution* |
| 22:32.04 | worthy | it gave me a list of dependencies and says it's not installable |
| 22:32.04 | JohnGH | rezzen: OK thanks - so you were trying to remove gaim... then did you restart fluxbox? |
| 22:32.07 | embrik | which file do i edit to get my rollerwheel on my mouse working? |
| 22:32.12 | worthy | a longgggggg list of dependencies |
| 22:32.15 | pipeline | bobbens: My next project is to shoehorn Debian onto a 12 MHz R2000. It performs about as well as a 7 MHz 8086. |
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| 22:32.32 | bobbens | pipeline: damn, i'm working with PIC's that outperform that by alot :) |
| 22:32.34 | embrik | worthy: why don't you just use kaffeine? |
| 22:32.36 | layziie`[g0ne] | where do i go to adjust resolution |
| 22:32.44 | DevilChaos | cheal: /dev/psaux and intellimouse |
| 22:32.46 | ootput | embrik: /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 22:32.50 | layziie`[g0ne] | nvm |
| 22:33.02 | ootput | embrik: buttons 5 |
| 22:33.08 | ootput | embrik: ZAxisMapping 4 5 |
| 22:33.18 | worthy | i have kaffeine but it doesn't play avi |
| 22:33.23 | worthy | i need something to play avi |
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| 22:33.30 | ootput | xine |
| 22:33.32 | worthy | my real player doens't even support it |
| 22:33.33 | mfrisch | worthy: vlc? |
| 22:33.42 | worthy | apt-get install vlc? |
| 22:33.44 | SimonRaven | worthy: you could always run the install from aptitude and and let it take care of the deps |
| 22:33.55 | embrik | have you downloaded essentials and put it in a win32 directory? |
| 22:33.57 | bleaked | embrik. he can, and set his engine to mplayer :) -- personally, i have found xine to royally suck. it is picky and not very full-featured. plus the mplayerplug-in is easily the best for embedded video. |
| 22:33.58 | mfrisch | worthy: yes. |
| 22:34.01 | worthy | how do I do that simon |
| 22:34.01 | rezzen | no. it thought i read that fluxbox didn't need a restart. i'll do that. i've also found that update-menus has a verbose option. |
| 22:34.01 | SimonRaven | just a thought |
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| 22:34.24 | SimonRaven | worthy: hrm, maybe later. i don't want to confuse you |
| 22:34.29 | JohnGH | rezzen: I think I've found your problem... |
| 22:34.47 | bleaked | worthy. just do this: apt-cache search vlc |
| 22:34.47 | worthy | vlc is installing. will this play avi? |
| 22:34.49 | rezzen | that fluxbox requires a restart? |
| 22:34.51 | JohnGH | rezzen: do you have a file called ~/.fluxbox/menu ? |
| 22:34.53 | bleaked | worthy. that will show you your choices. |
| 22:34.55 | rezzen | yes |
| 22:35.07 | JohnGH | rezzen: does that file have this line in it? "[include] (/etc/X11/fluxbox/fluxbox-menu) |
| 22:35.09 | cheal | DevilChaos: ok. what does $ debconf-show xserver-xorg|grep protocol; output? |
| 22:35.12 | bleaked | worthy. it's videolan, and it will play basically anything. |
| 22:35.15 | JohnGH | "? |
| 22:35.25 | worthy | ok |
| 22:35.30 | blondie | bleaked: will it play Scrabble with me? |
| 22:35.35 | worthy | wow it's still installine |
| 22:35.35 | rezzen | JohnGH: no |
| 22:35.42 | embrik | ootput: thanks |
| 22:35.42 | ootput | yes it will |
| 22:35.47 | blondie | hm |
| 22:35.49 | worthy | brb |
| 22:35.50 | JohnGH | rezzen: does it have a full local menu? |
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| 22:35.54 | bleaked | blondie, um, yes, but only on Tuesdays from 5-9. |
| 22:36.18 | rezzen | JohnGH: yes, with header that stats it is an automatically generated file. |
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| 22:36.22 | blondie | bleaked: hmm ok |
| 22:36.23 | rezzen | s/stats/states |
| 22:36.26 | Doe | anyone know where i can find a good how to for setting up ssl on apache2 ? |
| 22:36.41 | ootput | what's the gnome equiv of k3b? |
| 22:36.48 | SimonRaven | Doe: apt-get install apache2-doc, or their site |
| 22:36.50 | odla | ootput: gnomebaker |
| 22:37.00 | bleaked | ootput. good luck. |
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| 22:37.15 | JohnGH | rezzen: believe fluxbox would rebuild the menu on startup - it wouldn't sit there polling ~/.menu all the time for things to add or remove |
| 22:37.19 | ootput | bleaked: this is on etch |
| 22:37.19 | cbr | why isnt python 2.4 the default in debian? |
| 22:37.20 | Doe | ok thanks, havin a hell of a time w/ it |
| 22:37.28 | ootput | bleaked: are you suggesting i not mess with it? |
| 22:37.30 | Brian111 | hey can anyone help me with compiling ndiswrapper? i try but it fails |
| 22:37.31 | DevilChaos | cheal: * xserver-xorg/config/inputdevice/mouse/protocal : ImPS/2 |
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| 22:37.50 | Brian111 | im using the amd64 kernel |
| 22:37.58 | bucky | Doe: http://mario.espaciolinux.com/apache2_ssl.html |
| 22:38.00 | JohnGH | rezzen: its own menu files - although configured from the login wide menu config, are kept in ~/.fluxbox/menu |
| 22:38.09 | bleaked | ootput. no, i'm just saying that i have yet to find anything better than k3b..however, this gnomebaker is new to me..so give it a try! |
| 22:38.15 | cheal | DevilChaos: does your X log show warning(s) you think could indicate some problem related to your touchpad? |
| 22:38.20 | bleaked | ootput. looking at the screens now..seems interesting |
| 22:38.26 | buu | Ok, what the heck. I am using mdadmn to create a raid. I run it with --create, it gives me a bunch of output and ends with "raid started, /dev/md0" more or less |
| 22:38.27 | Doe | thank you bucky |
| 22:38.34 | mfrisch | Brian111: what fails...why aren't you using the .deb |
| 22:38.36 | buu | Then about 5 sconds after it prints that, the system hard locks |
| 22:38.38 | rezzen | JohnGH: i think yer right. i'll restart fluxbox. update-menus -v does hint that ~./menu has been consulted, but that there are no items there. |
| 22:38.45 | Brian111 | i was building the deb |
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| 22:38.51 | Brian111 | it failed building the deb |
| 22:39.02 | rezzen | JohnGH: Isn't there way to regen fluxbox menu as well? |
| 22:39.04 | Brian111 | the apt package didn't work so i was going to try 1.7 |
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| 22:39.11 | Brian111 | i can't get on the net at all, right now im in windows |
| 22:39.23 | rezzen | JohnGH: (w/out restarting fluxbox) |
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| 22:39.31 | mfrisch | Brian111: ..why aren't you using the .deb There is a deb on the mirrors for it |
| 22:39.38 | Brian111 | i must have missed it |
| 22:39.51 | Doe | well.. must be some other error, ive done everything on that howto already... |
| 22:39.52 | bobbens | rezzen: everytime you call the menu in fluxbox it reads the menu file |
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| 22:39.55 | Brian111 | the one i DID install, told me the drivers for the wireless USB card was there |
| 22:39.55 | DevilChaos | cheal: EE no input input driver matching synaptics |
| 22:39.56 | JohnGH | rezzen: and unless it is told to do so for some reason it's not going to touch that file - e.g. my ~/.fluxbox/menu has not been modified since 12 Jan - yes there *must* be a way to regen it - but that may be specific to fluxbox - not to update-menus |
| 22:40.10 | rezzen | brb |
| 22:40.14 | Brian111 | and the hardware was present but i couldn't bring up a wlan0 with ifup and it didnt show up under iwconfig |
| 22:40.16 | Doe | i can view the page if i type http://domain.com:443, but not https://domain.com |
| 22:40.20 | eegore|etch | My god, the new alsa settup in etch sees all 64 channels of my card |
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| 22:40.39 | ootput | does gnomebaker support max-speeds and data verification? |
| 22:41.04 | mfrisch | Brian111: do you have all the usb mods loaded??? |
| 22:41.14 | cheal | DevilChaos: is xfree86-driver-synaptics installed? |
| 22:41.17 | Brian111 | im thinking so, what could i be missing? |
| 22:41.25 | Brian111 | i have libusb, and I can use a usbflash drive |
| 22:41.25 | JohnGH | rezzen: when you're back... read man update-menus and go down to the BUGS section towards the bottom |
| 22:41.37 | Brian111 | ive binded the drivers to the id |
| 22:41.37 | Brian111 | etc |
| 22:41.45 | DevilChaos | cheal: no dont think so im using xorg remember |
| 22:41.58 | Thug-N-Me | hhow do i change the current gtk theme to gtk theme Clearlooks ? |
| 22:41.59 | cheal | DevilChaos: it doesn't matter. the package name is outdated |
| 22:42.07 | Brian111 | also, i added ndiswrapper to the /etc/modules file |
| 22:42.12 | cheal | DevilChaos: anyway, install it and restart X |
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| 22:42.43 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, Desktop -> Preferences -> Theme ? |
| 22:42.55 | Brian111 | UNLESS there is linux drivers that i haven't found for a Dlink DWL-G132 USB adaptor |
| 22:43.03 | mfrisch | Brian111: do a lsusb and see if its loading. |
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| 22:43.20 | Thug-N-Me | jnk i have no Preferences |
| 22:43.21 | JohnGH | rezzen: read man update-menus and go down to the BUGS section towards the bottom |
| 22:43.21 | Brian111 | it is |
| 22:43.35 | JohnGH | rezzen: did restarting fluxbox fix it? |
| 22:43.38 | Brian111 | its registered under the id 2001:30A3 or something like that |
| 22:43.42 | bucky | Doe: did you put <VirtualHost *:443> in your new sites file ? |
| 22:43.43 | Brian111 | and it says Dlink etc |
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| 22:43.49 | Thug-N-Me | jnk you mean control centre ? |
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| 22:43.55 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, what are you running ? GNOME ? |
| 22:44.00 | rezzen | JohnGH: restarting fluxbox did not fix it. |
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| 22:44.03 | Thug-N-Me | jnk kde |
| 22:44.27 | Brian111 | so im not sure whats going wrong |
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| 22:44.43 | Doe | ya bucky, ive tried *:443 domain.com:443 and used it w/ the ip:443 |
| 22:44.50 | JohnGH | rezzen: did you read the BUGS ? |
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| 22:45.02 | Brian111 | like ndiswrapper is telling me the hardware is there and the driver is installed, and if i remove the adaptor, it doesn't list hardware present |
| 22:45.04 | bucky | Doe: did you restart apache? |
| 22:45.15 | JohnGH | rezzen: also - do you have fluxmenu on your system? |
| 22:45.17 | ma3x | who is free to help me? |
| 22:45.23 | rezzen | JohnGH: yes... not too sure what to make of the BUGS note |
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| 22:45.33 | ataq | Hey in americas army I clicked software instead of Open Gl, and now it wont start. does anybody know how I can fix this. or is there a config file somewhere I can delete? |
| 22:45.52 | DevilChaos | cheal thank you very much |
| 22:45.56 | Doe | bucky, ya |
| 22:45.59 | jnk | ThetaWave, do you have gnome installed (even if you don't use it...) |
| 22:46.02 | Brian111 | argh |
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| 22:46.05 | DevilChaos | cheal: much appreciated |
| 22:46.06 | cheal | DevilChaos: it's a pleasure |
| 22:46.08 | lococ | hi |
| 22:46.09 | DevilChaos | :) |
| 22:46.12 | cheal | ataq: most likely |
| 22:46.16 | rezzen | JohnGH: i have no deb package or binary named fluxmenu |
| 22:46.21 | ThetaWave | jnk: no |
| 22:46.39 | mfrisch | Brian111: I donot know much about wireless, but I would use the official .deb. It sounds like the interface properties are borked. |
| 22:46.44 | ataq | cheal, Do you know where the config file is, I can't find it anywhere |
| 22:46.48 | buu | Anyone know how I could debug this hardlock after raid creation? |
| 22:46.52 | Brian111 | yeah |
| 22:46.58 | Brian111 | its weird that it won't add the interface |
| 22:47.27 | JohnGH | rezzen: reads to me like it's saying "update-menus may not work properly when run by a normal user, to generate menus for that user" :-| |
| 22:47.35 | mfrisch | do you have usb-network or whatever its called loaded?? |
| 22:47.55 | cheal | ataq: this is freenode. Amerca's Army channels are on a different network |
| 22:47.56 | rezzen | JohnGH: seems that's the case. of course running as root doesn't help, because it wont' check ~/.menu/ |
| 22:48.00 | JohnGH | rezzen: Suggests: fluxconf, fbpager, fbdesk, xfonts-artwiz |
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| 22:48.04 | Doe | bucky, logs doesnt show anything either, except common name doesnt match, but i dont think that would keep it from viewing in browser, would just pop up warning box wouldnt it ? |
| 22:48.04 | Brian111 | thanks |
| 22:48.06 | Brian111 | ill try that |
| 22:48.09 | MotoHoss | oops. missed the reply.: wierd. "run as different user" works for gui progs requiring root... but if you click on one of them(gui progs requiring root) from the "Applications" menu they fail. Example "Root Terminal".. google and man no help. so far... |
| 22:48.10 | JohnGH | rezzen: (that's fluxbox) |
| 22:48.23 | ataq | cheal, Ya, Do you know there address? |
| 22:48.27 | mfrisch | Brian111: PEACE |
| 22:48.35 | Devil_Kin | hello ppl, is there a channel dedicated to the d-i? |
| 22:48.40 | jnk | ThetaWave, I meant Thug-N-Me sorry |
| 22:48.47 | JohnGH | rezzen: and fluxmenu is in fluxconf - how did you get your menu in the first place? |
| 22:48.55 | rezzen | JohnGH: yeap, will grab all those. |
| 22:48.57 | cheal | ataq: not by heart. americasarmy.com should know better |
| 22:49.12 | bucky | Doe: you do have https 443/tcp in /etc/services don't you? |
| 22:49.17 | embrik | Woorthy: Have you managed to install mplayer? |
| 22:49.23 | rezzen | JohnGH: I I've done to get fluxbox is 'apt-get install fluxbox' |
| 22:49.35 | Doe | hmm im not sure of that one, let me check |
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| 22:49.54 | Thug-N-Me | jnk no i dont have it |
| 22:49.55 | rezzen | JohnGH: fluxconf not installed |
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| 22:50.01 | Thug-N-Me | jnk i dont want gnome anyway |
| 22:50.06 | ataq | cheal, Sound thanks |
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| 22:50.10 | cheal | Devil_Kin: yes. #debian-boot is a development channel though |
| 22:50.27 | Doe | bucky, ya its in ther |
| 22:50.40 | Jim2 | I have used other distros before.. Suse, Mandrake, RedHat, Ubuntu.. Is the latter based on Debian? Just wanted to know how easy Debian is to use compared to those Distros |
| 22:50.41 | bucky | Doe: what version of debian are you using? |
| 22:50.48 | Doe | 3.1 |
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| 22:51.05 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, so you've installed the clearlooks engine... you can install a tool to select the theme but I think you can just copy the gtkrc file to ~/.gtkrc |
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| 22:51.22 | bucky | Doe: and you added Listen 443" to /etc/apache2/ports.conf ? |
| 22:51.23 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, the file is /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc |
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| 22:51.34 | Doe | bucky, ya |
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| 22:51.39 | JohnGH | rezzen: how did you get the local menu? because I don't have that? (what release are you on perhaps? I'm using 0.9.14-1 on etch |
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| 22:51.49 | MotoHoss | it is debian gnome... guess i need a better question :p |
| 22:51.54 | Devil_Kin | hello.. i'm trying to use lvm on the d-i images of yesterday, but it seems broken - any issue with that? |
| 22:52.03 | beardy | Jim2: Yes. How long have run those distros in total? |
| 22:52.09 | beardy | have you |
| 22:52.11 | Thug-N-Me | jnk there is no /usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0/gtkrc i might have to donwload the theme first ? and install it |
| 22:52.16 | rezzen | JohnGH: 0.9.11-1sarge0 |
| 22:52.33 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, yeah sure install the clearlooks package with apt/aptitude/whatever |
| 22:52.34 | rezzen | hrm - i should have 0.9.14. |
| 22:52.44 | rezzen | lots of bugs in 0.9.11, IIRC. |
| 22:52.45 | Jim2 | beardy.. have used them approx 3 years or so |
| 22:53.17 | JohnGH | rezzen: hmmm :o( |
| 22:53.54 | rezzen | though i had latest--this is fresh debian install of latest stable. (i'm not new to fluxbox, i'm new to debian.) |
| 22:53.54 | ma3x | I want to do 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.14-2-686' and since I'm not able to boot my current debian installation, I boot from the knoppix cd, and then chroot to debian. and I try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.14-2-686, and then when it comes to yaird to make the initrd.img, it says block device /dev/hda2: unavailable (/etc/fstab:5) fatal. |
| 22:54.19 | ma3x | anyone any idea? |
| 22:54.25 | beardy | Jim2: It's not easy to make comparisons, it probably varies from person to person. It's as easy as anything else. You'll probably do fine. |
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| 22:54.48 | rezzen | JohnGH: do i need to add unstable to sources.list to get latest fluxbox? |
| 22:54.53 | bucky | Doe: i used this before http://ilovett.com/blog/2004/10/21/ cp /usr/share/doc/apache2/examples/ssl.conf.gz /etc/apache2/sites/available/ |
| 22:54.53 | Thug-N-Me | jnk The following package was successfully installed: * Clearlooks GTK+ 2.x Engine and i just run control center to add the theme, but i cannot see it listed there :) |
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| 22:55.34 | JohnGH | hmm this problem with bash is confusing... I've got the same versions of bash and vim installed on two boxes - one gets the problem and one doesn't |
| 22:55.48 | beardy | rezzen: What does that version have that the one you can run without hosing your system doesn't have? |
| 22:55.51 | JohnGH | rezzen: no, I'm not on unstable (sid) I'm on testing (etch) |
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| 22:56.01 | Andy3829 | how do i check what cron jobs are set? |
| 22:56.09 | Doe | thanks bucky, ive used it also, thats the ssl.conf that im using now, only w/ my domain info and cert files |
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| 22:56.13 | rezzen | beardy: nothing, I guess. |
| 22:56.27 | JohnGH | rezzen: and you don't need to upgrade your whole box just for fluxbox! |
| 22:56.28 | beardy | rezzen: Then there is no reason for you to run it. |
| 22:56.44 | Doe | ive been workin on this 2 or 3 days now, completely out of ideas, just doesnt make sense :( |
| 22:57.00 | Thug-N-Me | jnk now file:/usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/gtk-2.0 exist there is a plaitext document inside and in usr/share/themes/Clearlooks/ its a index.theme |
| 22:57.07 | rezzen | is there a RPM front-end for dpkg/apt-get? :-P |
| 22:57.23 | jelly | rezzen: what? |
| 22:57.37 | beardy | Andy3829: 'crontab -l' as the user whos crontab you want to list. 'ma 1 crontab' |
| 22:57.47 | clars | rezzen, synaptic = apt-get |
| 22:58.23 | Andy3829 | can i force one to run? |
| 22:58.24 | jnk | Thug-N-Me, well it's rather for gnome than kde... maybe gtk2-engines-gtk-qt would be confiugrable from kde since it's made to make gtk apps look like kde ones... Anyway maybe the simplest thing to do is to install gtk-theme-switch then run the gtk-theme-swtich2 program |
| 22:58.40 | rezzen | jelly: kidding. |
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| 22:58.44 | beardy | Andy3829: A crontab job? |
| 22:58.48 | Andy3829 | yeah |
| 22:59.02 | beardy | Andy3829: Just run it manually, whatever it is? |
| 22:59.06 | Doe | bucky, it might be a prob w/ another application thats moved some of apache's config files around abit, ive installed vhcs2 also |
| 22:59.19 | Andy3829 | ah ok |
| 22:59.37 | beardy | Andy3829: Anything special? |
| 22:59.59 | kspath | When did shell scripting become something that was considered Mid -> Senior level unix/linux admin lol |
| 23:00.03 | bucky | Doe: do you have a link from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/ssl.conf to /etc/apache2/sites-available/ssl.conf |
| 23:00.30 | beardy | kspath: When you started saying "lol". |
| 23:00.31 | bucky | Doe: cat /etc/apache2/README |
| 23:00.43 | Doe | bucky, ya |
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| 23:00.53 | kspath | beardy: hmm 1997? |
| 23:00.56 | Doe | lol ok thanks bucky, appreciate your effort |
| 23:01.16 | bucky | Doe: i don't know it worked for me first try using http://ilovett.com/blog/2004/10/21/ |
| 23:01.24 | rezzen | JohnGH: thanks for the help. i'll look into upgrading fluxbox. if that doesn't do the trick i'll review bugs/open a bug/whatever. |
| 23:01.24 | JohnGH | OK nighters all - nobody seems to have seen it - so no point hanging out here till pumpkin time! |
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| 23:01.40 | beardy | kspath: whatever. Who says that it has? |
| 23:01.45 | JohnGH | rezzen: you're welcome - sorry I wasn't able to get you sorted :( |
| 23:01.50 | ma3x | I want to do 'dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.14-2-686' and since I'm not able to boot my current debian installation, I boot from the knoppix cd, and then chroot to debian. and I try dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.14-2-686, and then when it comes to yaird to make the initrd.img, it says block device /dev/hda2: unavailable (/etc/fstab:5) fatal. |
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| 23:02.11 | kspath | beardy: numerous job listsings dice and monster likely morons writing the job listings |
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| 23:02.36 | bucky | ma3x: you can't boot into your orginal install kernel? |
| 23:02.54 | beardy | ma3x: "dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-2.6.14-2-686" ? |
| 23:02.56 | kevinv | hey a quick question, does anyone know if there is an X application that can change the Xcursor theme without using a session manager such as gnome-session or KDE's? |
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| 23:03.48 | kevinv | eg. users can set their down Xcursor themes without the bulk of gnome or KDE |
| 23:03.56 | ma3x | bucky thank god someone replied. |
| 23:04.12 | ma3x | beardy: yes, via knoppix, what's so strange? |
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| 23:04.39 | ma3x | bucky I can't boot it, because I moved my partition from hda3 to hda2, and now I get VFS kernel panic |
| 23:05.29 | jnk | kevinv, update-alternatives --config x-cursor-theme |
| 23:05.32 | bucky | kevinv: |
| 23:05.33 | kevinv | ma3x have you changed the config in either grub or lilo to reflect the partition change? |
| 23:05.37 | bucky | kevinv: apt-cache show artwiz-cursor ? |
| 23:05.54 | kevinv | also /etc/fstab should also reflect those changes as well. |
| 23:06.03 | Elly | hey guys, what tool converts .m4a files to .mp3 files? |
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| 23:06.43 | kevinv | bucky, I know how to change the system-wide setting for Xcursor themes, but I need a user-side application(runable by a user) and only changes that users cursor. |
| 23:06.49 | ma3x | kevinv yes of course! |
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| 23:07.08 | Thug-N-Me | why is kernel 2.6.15 not available via apt ? |
| 23:07.09 | bleaked | so i find that if one app is using sound, and i open another app which needs sound as well, the second app will not play the sound. is there any way around this so that whatever app needs to play sound will..even if it overlaps? |
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| 23:07.23 | wwallace_lap | hello to all hi Guerin |
| 23:07.24 | kevinv | ma3x, I had the same problem before when copying debian to another partition scheme. |
| 23:07.30 | bucky | ma3x: mkinitrd -o initrd.img-2.6.14-2 -r /dev/hda2 2.6.14-2 |
| 23:07.30 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: it is |
| 23:07.35 | bleaked | Thug-N-Me. it's in sid. |
| 23:07.43 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: not in sarge though for obvious reasons |
| 23:07.48 | bucky | ma3x: mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14-2 -r /dev/hda2 2.6.14-2 |
| 23:07.51 | TriKster-Abacus | but beware the newest NVIDIA drives kinda suck |
| 23:07.56 | TriKster-Abacus | for 2.6.15 |
| 23:07.58 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn T so what am i gonna do then ? |
| 23:08.06 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: dont use 2.6.15 |
| 23:08.13 | bucky | ma3x: and edit /boot/grub/menu.lst to reflect the initrd name |
| 23:08.16 | Thug-N-Me | TriKster-Abacus cheers but i dont use nvidia |
| 23:08.31 | TriKster-Abacus | made my glxgears go from 13000fps (using 2.6.14-nitro2 and debians 7174 drivers) to 6000fps |
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| 23:08.35 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn well i need to get my sata and scsi hard drivers working |
| 23:08.44 | TriKster-Abacus | ahh |
| 23:08.47 | valdyn | !backports |
| 23:08.47 | dpkg | somebody said backport was a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and ABI complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port or http://backports.org/ or http://www.apt-get.org/ or ask me about <simple sid backport> |
| 23:08.47 | TriKster-Abacus | k |
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| 23:08.59 | ma3x | bucky: do you think that will work? before i tried just mkinitrd -o /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14-2 and it said something about the current knoppix kernel 2.6.12 |
| 23:09.10 | christor | Hi |
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| 23:09.33 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn so any ideea how am i gonna mount my hard drivers ? ;) |
| 23:09.48 | bucky | ma3x did you mount /mnt/hda2; cd /mnt/hda2; chroot /mnt/hda2 ? |
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| 23:10.42 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: you havent installed yet or a fresh install is a viable choice? |
| 23:11.00 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: does it really have to be 2.6.15 or is 2.6.14 ok too? |
| 23:11.01 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn its a fresh install |
| 23:11.08 | ma3x | bucky : I did 'mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/hda2 -o rw'; 'chroot /mnt/hda2' and then the mkinitrd command |
| 23:11.12 | valdyn | !sarge 2.6.14 |
| 23:11.12 | dpkg | sarge 2.6.14 is probably http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/11/26#d-i-2614 |
| 23:11.35 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn well all i want it to get my hard disk which is on sata and the other one which is on scsi working |
| 23:11.53 | TriKster-Abacus | what chipset? |
| 23:12.05 | ma3x | bucky I'm gonna try the whole command once more, and then come back here and tell you what happened |
| 23:12.06 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn now i have 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 23:12.07 | ma3x | ok?/ |
| 23:12.07 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: try what dpkg said then, or build your own kernel |
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| 23:12.14 | bucky | Thug-N-Me: you're still running the install kernel right? |
| 23:12.22 | Thug-N-Me | bucky yes |
| 23:12.24 | christor | I m searching a solution to install an iamge debian on several Computer ( someone know a soft or something to do that ?) |
| 23:12.29 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: so you dont really know if sarge's 2.6 kernel isnt 'good enough' ? |
| 23:12.35 | bucky | upgrade and load the modules you need |
| 23:12.43 | colera | where is the samba passwd config file? |
| 23:12.43 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn i dont |
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| 23:12.50 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: install it. |
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| 23:13.04 | Thug-N-Me | which one now 2.6.15 or 14 ? |
| 23:13.30 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: sarge comes with 2.6.8, if that does not support your hardware, build your own or look at what dpkg said |
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| 23:13.46 | apikoros | anybody know a good media player plugin for firefox that has a debian package? i used on mplayer-plugin on slackware, but it doesn't seem to have debian binaries nor can i get it to compile. |
| 23:13.51 | apoc_ | hi |
| 23:13.57 | bleaked | bucky. this kind of goes back to a question i asked about an hour ago..when installing a deb provided kernel, where do i find the list of available modules, will i be able to tell from the list what each kernel feature the module corresponds to? |
| 23:13.59 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn ok but how come i have 2.4.27-2-386 ? |
| 23:14.05 | valdyn | apikoros: its packaged in debian |
| 23:14.20 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: that is one of 2 kernel choices you have when installing sarge |
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| 23:14.25 | apikoros | valdyn, really? i can't find it with apt-iselect |
| 23:14.30 | apikoros | nor with aptitude for that matter |
| 23:14.53 | bleaked | apikoros. /msg dpkg mplayer | also try marillat as per dpkg's suggestion. there are packages, just not on the main reps. |
| 23:14.57 | valdyn | apikoros: oh, its not _in_ debian, but packaged for it, '/msg dpkg marillat' |
| 23:15.04 | Thug-N-Me | valdyn so have the worst one :) |
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| 23:15.12 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: yea |
| 23:15.14 | TriKster-Abacus | you could try RealPlayer 10 also |
| 23:15.18 | TriKster-Abacus | I use that |
| 23:15.24 | apoc_ | i used OSS for audio output but how could i install an mixer so that i could hear 2 audio outputs at the same time ??? |
| 23:15.29 | valdyn | Thug-N-Me: apt-cache search kernel-image, pick one , install one |
| 23:15.32 | TriKster-Abacus | but It obviously only supports that media type |
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| 23:15.59 | bleaked | valdyn. isn't it linux-image now? kernel-image is depreciated, i believe. |
| 23:16.02 | bucky | bleaked: if you have a specific piece of hardware in mind... http://linux.yyz.us/sata/sata-status.html is one place |
| 23:16.03 | apikoros | thanks valdyn, i didn't know about this package repository! |
| 23:16.16 | valdyn | bleaked: after sarge, yea |
| 23:16.20 | SimonRaven | apoc_: oss doesn't do this very well |
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| 23:16.23 | valdyn | bleaked: but Thug-N-Me is using sarge |
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| 23:16.36 | apoc_ | sould i use ALSA ?? |
| 23:16.37 | bucky | bleaked: linux-image in etch |
| 23:16.49 | Devil_Kin | anyone any idea how i can make my SATA cdrom visible ? |
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| 23:17.23 | valdyn | Devil_Kin: if you can ask what you precisely want, maybe |
| 23:17.38 | SimonRaven | apoc_: it would handle such things better. if your cars supports it |
| 23:17.40 | bucky | Devil_Kin: it's in the install errata |
| 23:17.40 | Devil_Kin | valdyn: i want to install debian on my new laptop, it's got sata disks and a sata cdrom |
| 23:17.45 | SimonRaven | card* |
| 23:17.51 | bucky | !d-i |
| 23:17.51 | dpkg | For stable/sarge: http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ and the development page for the installer(ISOs for etch/testing) is http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:17.58 | valdyn | Devil_Kin: and what is not working? |
| 23:17.58 | bucky | Devil_Kin: on that page ^^ |
| 23:18.05 | Devil_Kin | valdyn: the 2.4 kernel is no go (lvm craps out), 2.6 doesn't see my cdrom drive |
| 23:18.27 | valdyn | Devil_Kin: /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 23:18.28 | jnk | apoc_, you can use dmix with alsa, or use something like arts, jack, esd... |
| 23:18.39 | Devil_Kin | valdyn: it's 2.6.15 on the installer image |
| 23:18.42 | Devil_Kin | and i'm going for sid |
| 23:18.44 | gridline | Hi, how can I get anearlier version of a package then is currently in the repositories? (for unstable) |
| 23:18.54 | valdyn | Devil_Kin: you aint going to get support for a sid installer |
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| 23:19.09 | Devil_Kin | valdyn: look.. i really just want to get my cdrom active.. after that i can handle it |
| 23:19.19 | bucky | Devil_Kin: it's in the install errata |
| 23:19.29 | bucky | load the module |
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| 23:20.13 | SimonRaven | 'errata'? |
| 23:20.16 | Devil_Kin | bucky: the errata mentions nothing about cdroms or lvm |
| 23:20.37 | SimonRaven | heh |
| 23:21.11 | bucky | Devil_Kin: SATA driver can block access to CD drive in installations from CD http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
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| 23:21.50 | sjaakz0r | is there a xfree86 help channel? |
| 23:21.52 | bucky | SimonRaven: it's right underneath Documentation |
| 23:22.15 | maelztrom | Greetings: I've created a tcp_wrapper boobytrap more or less exactly out of the book to log connections to an sshd running on nonstandard port...but...it doesn't actually appear to launch. Not sure if this is the right channel, but I'm running debian...and there doesn't appear to be a #tcp_wrappers :( |
| 23:22.18 | streuner | sjaakz0r: are you using debian? |
| 23:22.18 | Devil_Kin | bucky: then how am i supposed to get this thing installed? they're both on SATA |
| 23:22.23 | apoc_ | okay ive change the audio output to ALSA. Ive a running vlc and xmms but i hear only xmms output |
| 23:22.24 | sjaakz0r | streuner yes |
| 23:22.29 | streuner | so ask |
| 23:22.40 | bucky | Devil_Kin: boot the installer with linux26 and kick it in the ass |
| 23:22.55 | Devil_Kin | bucky: define 'kick it in the ass' |
| 23:23.04 | bleaked | apoc_. im having the same issue..i would like multiple audio outputs. it used to work..but sometime in the last month it stopped. |
| 23:23.07 | bucky | Devil_Kin: did you read the errata? |
| 23:23.25 | sjaakz0r | ok, I installed nvidia drivers, they work perfectly fine after install....but when I reboot after installation and try to startx ...I see the nvidia logo and after that a blinking cursor...and nothing more...so basically after the restart it stops functioning |
| 23:23.31 | valdyn | the sid installer uses 2.6 by default i think |
| 23:23.50 | streuner | sid installer? |
| 23:23.52 | Devil_Kin | bucky: the errata i see on the http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata link mentions nothing useful for me |
| 23:23.56 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, did you use the debian nvidia-source or NVIDIA.com's drivers? |
| 23:24.04 | streuner | etch installer use 2.6.12, beta etch 2.6.15 |
| 23:24.06 | glitch_ | sjaakz0r: I have the exact same problem |
| 23:24.15 | valdyn | streuner: yea, that is what Devil_Kin is using |
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| 23:24.18 | Devil_Kin | bucky: this one : http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstallerToday mentions nothing useful either |
| 23:24.24 | sjaakz0r | there is no debian for the legacy drivers |
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| 23:24.26 | SimonRaven | bucky: i was joking |
| 23:24.36 | sjaakz0r | I used this man his drivers http://www.khensu.org/ |
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| 23:24.40 | apikoros | hi valdyn, does the mplayer package from ftp.nerim.net include the plugin for firefox? i didn't see a separate package for it. |
| 23:24.47 | bucky | Devil_Kin: then you didn't read http://www.us.debian.org/releases/sarge/debian-installer/ |
| 23:25.02 | sjaakz0r | but the drivers work fine after installation.....but when I reboot they just suddenly don't work anymore |
| 23:25.07 | bleaked | apikoros. yes, mplayerplug-in |
| 23:25.07 | valdyn | apikoros: mozilla-mplayer |
| 23:25.08 | Tortel | there is a seperate package somewhere |
| 23:25.12 | TriKster-Abacus | I tried the NVIDIA.com drivers and it stopped working, then I used the nvidia-source drivers and compiled them myself (7174) and all works now |
| 23:25.21 | sjaakz0r | I use 7174 |
| 23:25.22 | Tortel | !nvidia |
| 23:25.22 | dpkg | DO NOT use nvidia.com's installer. Ask me about "nvidia installer". Instead, read "nvidia-graphics-drivers" for instructions, or "nvidia one-liner" for a reminder if you've done it before. "Off to break the nvidia driver by changing the kernel interfaces again, this is becoming a fun hobby..." - Greg Kroah-Hartman, Linux kernel hacker, on linux-elitists |
| 23:25.28 | bucky | sjaakz0r: i ran into that when i didn't use module-assistant a-i nvidia |
| 23:25.46 | Agrajag- | what's the status of k3b in testing? apt-get tells me it's not available, but referred to by another package |
| 23:25.46 | sjaakz0r | so how to solve it now? |
| 23:25.46 | sjaakz0r | :P |
| 23:25.47 | Devil_Kin | bucky: hrmm.. i was looking indeed at the other page where the download images are, there's an errata link there. I guess the webpage could use some 'straightening out' |
| 23:25.47 | bleaked | apikoros. the package is what valdyn said (mozilla-mplayer) |
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| 23:26.19 | bucky | Devil_Kin: there's no link.. theres a bold title that says ERRATA |
| 23:26.26 | SperMite | how do i know when my kernels been patched correctly? |
| 23:26.32 | Devil_Kin | bucky: there's a link on the download page |
| 23:26.36 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus don't you have the problem with after reboot a blinking cursor? |
| 23:26.41 | apikoros | bleaked, oh. looking for it.. |
| 23:26.46 | valdyn | SperMite: patched by who? |
| 23:26.47 | sjaakz0r | who can tell me how to solve this kinda annoying problem :P |
| 23:26.57 | bucky | Devil_Kin: then you can see SATA driver can block access to CD drive in installations from CD |
| 23:26.59 | valdyn | SperMite: and with which method? |
| 23:27.11 | sjaakz0r | it's a bit silly to reinstall the drivers after every reboot |
| 23:27.21 | Devil_Kin | bucky: yea i saw. silly, in a way, since there's a patch that solves that problem (a one-liner really) |
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| 23:28.00 | sjaakz0r | bucky did you also have the blinking cursor? |
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| 23:28.17 | jnk | sjaakz0r, you can't do anything? the blinking cursor is in text mode right? no x ? |
| 23:28.25 | sjaakz0r | it's in x |
| 23:28.28 | glitch_ | sjaakz0r: yeah I agree |
| 23:28.42 | jnk | sjaakz0r, but you can't type anything? I mean it's not a terminal? |
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| 23:28.47 | sjaakz0r | I install the drivers...x works fine...I reboot....and it doesn't work anymore |
| 23:28.55 | sjaakz0r | no I can't do shit :P |
| 23:28.56 | bucky | sjaakz0r: my X wouldn't start unless i reinstalled with the nvidia installer each time i booted up again.. quite the pain |
| 23:29.03 | sjaakz0r | yes bucky |
| 23:29.06 | sjaakz0r | that's my problem |
| 23:29.07 | SperMite | used this patch : patch-2.6.14 with this command . patch -p1 < /path/to/kernel/patch blah, did that in the /usr/src dir, to my 2.6.14 kernel valdyn |
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| 23:29.09 | sjaakz0r | so how did you solve it ? :P |
| 23:29.12 | jnk | sjaakz0r, try switching to the console (Ctrl+Alt+F1) and look at the logs (/var/log/Xorg.0.log) |
| 23:29.13 | pipeline | bucky, sjaakz0r : Add 'nvidia' to /etc/modules ... |
| 23:29.35 | bucky | sjaakz0r: i used module-assistant to install it |
| 23:29.42 | sjaakz0r | pipeline it's allready in there |
| 23:29.54 | sjaakz0r | ok could you walk me through that never used module-assistant bucky |
| 23:29.59 | Devil_Kin | bucky: the error i get is: "ata2(0): WARNING: ATAPI is disabled, device ignored. |
| 23:30.11 | Devil_Kin | bucky: the cdrom is on the SATA bus |
| 23:30.12 | glitch_ | I have the same problem and nvidia is loaded at boot |
| 23:30.15 | bucky | sjaakz0r: module-assistant a-i nvidia |
| 23:30.26 | apikoros | now i can't find mozilla-mplayer in aptitude. google shows this: http://packages.debian.org/unstable/misc/mozilla-mplayer but their ftp is down. |
| 23:30.49 | doi | does anyone have a hint to do a visualization traffic that has passed iptables ? |
| 23:31.00 | jnk | apikoros, ftp is not down, only the web front-end |
| 23:31.09 | bucky | sjaakz0r: then install the deb it makes |
| 23:31.10 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, not after I used the debian nvidia-sources and compiled those debian specific drivers for my kernel |
| 23:31.15 | valdyn | SperMite: patch will give you an error message if a patch fails |
| 23:31.16 | apikoros | jnk: shouldn't apt be able to find it anyways? |
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| 23:31.48 | TriKster-Abacus | !mplayer |
| 23:31.48 | dpkg | i guess mplayer is not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
| 23:31.56 | sjaakz0r | ok bucky but I have to use a specific .run file I had to download..since my drivers aren't supported in the standard nvidia drivers.. |
| 23:32.02 | jnk | apikoros, sure but you need to enable the contrib repository for that |
| 23:32.19 | apikoros | jnk: aha, how do i do that? |
| 23:32.33 | bucky | sjaakz0r: i wasnt aware that there were anything but the "standard nvidia drivers" |
| 23:32.46 | jnk | apikoros, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/apt-howto/ch-basico.en.html |
| 23:33.00 | sjaakz0r | bucky I have the legacy drivers..because it's a geforce2 gts |
| 23:33.06 | sjaakz0r | so I downloaded a .run file |
| 23:33.14 | sjaakz0r | can I use module-assisant on that to? |
| 23:33.16 | TriKster-Abacus | the 7174 debian drivers should work fine |
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| 23:33.23 | bucky | afaik |
| 23:33.32 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus I have the 7174 .run |
| 23:33.37 | sjaakz0r | did you use that TriKster-Abacus ? |
| 23:33.52 | SperMite | The next patch would create the file .gitignore, |
| 23:33.52 | SperMite | which already exists! Assume -R? [n] is this considered a error? becuase thats what im getting after doing the patch valdyn |
| 23:34.02 | SimonRaven | !tell sjaakz0r -about nvidia one-liner |
| 23:34.19 | valdyn | SperMite: yep, its what it sais |
| 23:34.29 | apikoros | jnk, thanks, found it! |
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| 23:34.59 | valdyn | SperMite: just for that file you can do whatever though, its not needed to build a kernel |
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| 23:35.20 | sjaakz0r | simonraven I have to use different nvidia drivers for my videocard |
| 23:35.31 | SperMite | valdyn ok |
| 23:35.43 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, no, I used the deb file found in aptitude or synaptic if you use that |
| 23:35.47 | Devil_Kin | bucky: in short, it ain't possible probably without rebuilding the kernel. great... |
| 23:36.11 | TriKster-Abacus | my Deb box is busy installing games atm.. |
| 23:36.16 | gridline | Any idea where I can get libebook1.2-3 for i386 ? |
| 23:36.16 | TriKster-Abacus | and this laptop is slackware |
| 23:36.23 | bucky | Devil_Kin: maybe.. /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 23:36.49 | sjaakz0r | TriKster you think you can find that .deb file for me? |
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| 23:37.16 | apoc_ | mhh okay alsa works but these mixing stuff do not work. I start artsd but nothing changed |
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| 23:37.40 | bucky | apoc_: alsamixer doesn't work? |
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| 23:38.40 | bleaked | apoc_. any luck yet (have been away for the past 10 minutes) |
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| 23:39.16 | apikoros | ok, last apt question: i have all these packages that are apparently "held back" from being upgraded. is there a way to unhold all of them and upgrade? |
| 23:39.32 | jnk | apoc_, what desktop/window-manager/... are you using? |
| 23:39.34 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus what graphic card do you have? |
| 23:39.50 | apoc_ | enlightenment 17 |
| 23:39.57 | bucky | apikoros: apt-get dist-upgrade ? |
| 23:40.00 | jnk | apikoros, apt-get upgrade or aptitude upgrade (you can also use dist-upgrade) |
| 23:40.02 | Agrajag- | what's the status of k3b in testing? apt-get tells me it's not available, but referred to by another package. does anyone know why it's not in testing? |
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| 23:40.14 | bucky | !win bucky |
| 23:40.14 | dpkg | Congratulations, bucky! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
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| 23:40.28 | TriKster-Abacus | I have a 6800 Ultra |
| 23:40.46 | bucky | Agrajag-: /msg dpkg why is k3b not in testing |
| 23:40.58 | thingfish | dpkg, your fixmbr instructions worked like a charm. You are phenomenal. |
| 23:40.58 | dpkg | thingfish: that's too long |
| 23:41.02 | thingfish | tsk |
| 23:41.09 | jnk | apoc_, well maybe try running esd then... (maybe it should work fine with arts too I don't know) |
| 23:41.13 | thingfish | that's ok, I'll ease it in slowly. :) |
| 23:41.35 | Siv0x | I need to install Debian to my hard drive, but the installation won't detect my ethernet card :( |
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| 23:41.35 | odla | !tell dpkg about moo |
| 23:41.40 | thingfish | tsk |
| 23:41.41 | Siv0x | how can i fix this? |
| 23:41.42 | thingfish | !moo |
| 23:41.42 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
| 23:42.04 | odla | sad...i wanted to dpkg to tell himself and he says to me, privately, 'isn't that a bit silly' |
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| 23:42.16 | bucky | Siv0x: which nic is it? |
| 23:42.19 | thingfish | well, isn't it? |
| 23:42.19 | plugwash | anyone have any idea why cdebootstrap woody /woody would be failing on my etch system? |
| 23:42.24 | ma3x | on boot I get VFS: kernel panic saying that I should set a proper "root=" option. Where do I set it? |
| 23:42.36 | Siv0x | nic? |
| 23:42.36 | sjaakz0r | ok TriKster-Abacus I found the drivers in .deb how can I now install them? |
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| 23:42.39 | plugwash | P: Extracting findutils |
| 23:42.39 | plugwash | P: Doing something important |
| 23:42.39 | plugwash | E: Couldn't install root! |
| 23:42.39 | plugwash | debian:/woody# |
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| 23:43.00 | bucky | plugwash: don't flood |
| 23:43.10 | ma3x | hey bucky , any idea pal? |
| 23:43.27 | ma3x | plugwash more than 3 = flood |
| 23:43.28 | bucky | ma3x: did you use -r /dev/hda2 ? |
| 23:43.36 | thingfish | more than 3 lines is a flood. |
| 23:43.38 | ma3x | bucky yes and I did successfully set the image |
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| 23:43.47 | bucky | i dunno |
| 23:43.49 | ma3x | bucky but grub boots from vmlinuz image. is that alright? |
| 23:44.00 | plugwash | anyway does anyone have a clue why its failing? |
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| 23:44.04 | [Siv0x] | bucky: what do you mean, nic? |
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| 23:44.16 | thingfish | nic = network interface card |
| 23:44.24 | bucky | ma3x: is the initrd line in menu.lst? |
| 23:44.35 | ma3x | bucky just one second let me check |
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| 23:44.45 | bucky | [Siv0x]: what kind of ethernet card do you have? |
| 23:44.53 | sjaakz0r | how do I install a .deb file? |
| 23:44.59 | [Siv0x] | nvidia geforce 8600 |
| 23:45.04 | [Siv0x] | ermm |
| 23:45.07 | [Siv0x] | rofl1! |
| 23:45.09 | [Siv0x] | sorry |
| 23:45.13 | [Siv0x] | realtek |
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| 23:45.32 | [Siv0x] | but |
| 23:45.47 | [Siv0x] | on windows, i have to have the nvidia network drivers for it to detect.. |
| 23:46.04 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how to install a .deb file? |
| 23:46.17 | Gathond | sjaakz0r: dpkg -i |
| 23:46.26 | thingfish | sjaakz0r: dpkg -i packagename.deb |
| 23:46.43 | bucky | [Siv0x]: modprobe 8139too then ifconfig to see if there's an eth0 |
| 23:46.54 | thingfish | !beer abrotman |
| 23:47.00 | ma3x | bucky: this is in grub: kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro |
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| 23:47.17 | [Siv0x] | but |
| 23:47.25 | [Siv0x] | how am i gonna ifconfig if i'm on the debian installation.. |
| 23:47.31 | thingfish | I only !beer'd him 'cause there's no !bourbon and coke |
| 23:47.43 | gpm | hey guys. what package(s) do i need to see chinese characters and other non-roman characters...esp. in web browsing? |
| 23:47.57 | bucky | [Siv0x]: ctl-atl-F2 |
| 23:47.59 | sjaakz0r | it gives me an error when I dpkg -i packagename.deb thingfish |
| 23:48.04 | apoc_ | if i starting esd i could not start xmms music playing |
| 23:48.21 | thingfish | sjaakz0r: what is the name of the package you're trying to install? |
| 23:48.27 | apoc_ | there say its blocked by another device |
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| 23:48.30 | bucky | ma3x: do you have initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14-2 or whatever you called your initrd? |
| 23:48.34 | apoc_ | or something like that |
| 23:48.35 | thingfish | you better not be a clueless sob. |
| 23:48.36 | TriKster-Abacus | if you downloaded the source, you need to go to /usr/src/ |
| 23:48.45 | sjaakz0r | it says: error processing nvidia-glx trying to overwrite /usr/lib/libGL.so.1 which is also in package xlibmesa-gl |
| 23:48.52 | ma3x | bucky yes, but that's not specified in menu.lst |
| 23:49.03 | TriKster-Abacus | there will be an nvidia-source.tar.gz or some such, make a TMP directory, extract it in there, descend down to the nv directory, make / make install |
| 23:49.11 | sjaakz0r | hmm |
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| 23:49.15 | ma3x | bucky GRUB always had that those lines with vmlinuz |
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| 23:49.35 | bucky | ma3x: are you going to put the initrd line in there? |
| 23:49.48 | [Siv0x] | bucky: and that will detect my dhcp? |
| 23:50.03 | bucky | [Siv0x]: try dhclient eth0 |
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| 23:50.12 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus can't really find the source |
| 23:50.23 | riley | Is there a way to install rpms on debian? |
| 23:50.27 | thingfish | bah |
| 23:50.30 | bbrazil | riley: alien |
| 23:50.30 | [Siv0x] | to do that i type, ctl-atl-f2 and then dhclient eth0 ? |
| 23:50.34 | riley | bbrazil thx |
| 23:50.37 | thingfish | riley: what are you trying to install? |
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| 23:50.52 | ma3x | bucky you mean instead the vmlinuz line? |
| 23:50.58 | bbrazil | riley: probably best to see if there's a .deb though - try apt-get.org |
| 23:51.05 | bucky | ma3x: no.. you need both |
| 23:51.12 | aum | hi - do manpages normally live in /usr/share/man/man[sect] in most/all unices? |
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| 23:51.24 | bucky | ma3x: the initrd line right under the vmlinuz line |
| 23:51.29 | riley | bbrazil I have, no luck. thx though |
| 23:51.34 | Muffie | hello all. My sound stopped working. Anyone knows where should I start looking? |
| 23:51.36 | worthy | can we rpm with debian or install urpmi? |
| 23:51.37 | ma3x | bucky I have kernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.14-2-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro |
| 23:51.39 | thingfish | !sing the I Love Debian song |
| 23:51.44 | Muffie | bbrazil ? you're from there? |
| 23:51.48 | bucky | ma3x: you told me that already |
| 23:52.00 | ma3x | bucky and then should I put 'kernel /boot/initrd-2.6.14-2-686 root=/dev/hda2 ro ? |
| 23:52.08 | bleaked | worthy. why would you ever want to use rpm? |
| 23:52.24 | worthy | i can't install xine :-( bleaked |
| 23:52.41 | bucky | ma3x: initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.6.14-2-686 |
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| 23:52.42 | worthy | apt-get install xine |
| 23:52.45 | worthy | :-( |
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| 23:52.49 | bucky | ma3x: on the next line |
| 23:52.52 | thingfish | worthy: Debian probably has a native version available of whatever app you're needing. Look for it. |
| 23:52.53 | Muffie | what is xine? |
| 23:52.59 | bleaked | worthy. well..number one, why not? second, xine sucks. |
| 23:52.59 | [Siv0x] | bucky: to do that i type, ctl-atl-f2 and then dhclient eth0 ? |
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| 23:53.02 | ma3x | bucky ok thanks I will try that |
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| 23:53.06 | bucky | [Siv0x]: yes |
| 23:53.07 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, it is "nvidia-kernel-source" from what I am seeing in aptitude |
| 23:53.08 | worthy | ok |
| 23:53.10 | [Siv0x] | k |
| 23:53.18 | bleaked | Muffie. it's an audio/video engine. |
| 23:53.27 | bucky | [Siv0x]: ctl-alt-F1 to get back |
| 23:53.29 | bleaked | Muffie. and gui player. |
| 23:53.30 | worthy | for some reason, every format of media i play freezes my pc |
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| 23:53.37 | [Siv0x] | k |
| 23:53.42 | worthy | avi, mpg, xvid all freezes |
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| 23:53.51 | D7 | where can I find reiserfs compattible boot floppies? |
| 23:53.54 | [Siv0x] | when do i do this? |
| 23:53.58 | [Siv0x] | i mean |
| 23:54.01 | [Siv0x] | what part of the installation |
| 23:54.06 | mcgreg | get mplayer, the best video-playeer there is in the world |
| 23:54.10 | bleaked | worthy. maybe it's your files..maybe you don't have the right codecs? |
| 23:54.13 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus I have allready apt-getted nvidia-kernel-source |
| 23:54.13 | Coco | Hello does anyone know how to extract bz2 files? |
| 23:54.15 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, ya, apt-get install nvidia-kernel-source |
| 23:54.16 | sjaakz0r | what's the next step then? |
| 23:54.21 | worthy | i been trying to get mplayer all day and failed mcgreg |
| 23:54.21 | Thug-N-Me | :( not happy at all with my debian os, its a fresh install and its booting tooo slow it takes more then 5 min to boot |
| 23:54.26 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, it should be in your directory /usr/src |
| 23:54.28 | bucky | [Siv0x]: in the netinstall it does all that for you... what are you using? |
| 23:54.28 | Muffie | well... talking back about Audio. Where should I look first? It just stopped working |
| 23:54.46 | worthy | i installed mplayer, but i can't get a gui |
| 23:54.46 | mcgreg | worthy: what do you mean with "get"? |
| 23:54.47 | [Siv0x] | netinst, but it won't detect my dhcp.. |
| 23:54.50 | TriKster-Abacus | make a temporary directory (so you can delete it afterwards) and go in there, then extract the file |
| 23:54.54 | Laibsch | Today I switched out the Intel 440bx based mobo with a PIII@450MHz from my LAN server and replaced it with an ASUS P6SEP-Me running a Cyrix III 600MHZ CPU. Now Linux fails to boot from the HD (Knoppix and Win98 work). It hangs right at the start after the lilo prompt. There are only three lines: "boot" "Loading Linux" "Bios data check successful" Anybody have an idea what could be failing? |
| 23:54.56 | TriKster-Abacus | I.E. cd TMP/ |
| 23:54.59 | pureone | worthy, gmplayer |
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| 23:55.00 | aum | mplayer Just Works when WiMP scratches its head and whines about missing codecs |
| 23:55.06 | sjaakz0r | hmm |
| 23:55.07 | TriKster-Abacus | tar -xzvf ../nvidia-kernel-source.tar.gz |
| 23:55.08 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus |
| 23:55.09 | bucky | [Siv0x]: do you have a router or a cable modem? |
| 23:55.18 | [Siv0x] | yes |
| 23:55.19 | worthy | someone said gmplayer i can't install that either. apt-get install gmplayer |
| 23:55.21 | TriKster-Abacus | that will make like a folder called modules |
| 23:55.23 | fffffh | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:55.25 | Thug-N-Me | does anone know whats going on ? i just update the kernel , but also the x server its hanging at the startup (it was also before i upgraded the kernel ) |
| 23:55.27 | worthy | or just type gmplayer - nothing |
| 23:55.29 | TriKster-Abacus | descend that folder till you get to the nv folder |
| 23:55.33 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus I apt-get removed it and tried to apt-get install it again but now it says it has no installation candidate |
| 23:55.34 | thingfish | worthy: you need to add marillat sources. |
| 23:55.36 | TriKster-Abacus | then type: make && make install |
| 23:55.40 | thingfish | !tell worthy about marillat |
| 23:55.43 | bucky | [Siv0x]: is your cat cable plugged in? |
| 23:55.45 | sjaakz0r | so should I add a specific source? |
| 23:55.51 | sjaakz0r | to get it back? |
| 23:55.58 | worthy | i have all those in /etc/apt/sources.list thingfish |
| 23:55.59 | [Siv0x] | cat cable?? |
| 23:55.59 | TriKster-Abacus | umm.. |
| 23:56.02 | thingfish | tsk |
| 23:56.11 | TriKster-Abacus | I never really apt-get uninstalled a source file before |
| 23:56.16 | bucky | [Siv0x]: what is your computer connected to your router with? |
| 23:56.17 | Thug-N-Me | even when i try to start a application like " shell terminal " is takes abit until its open . everything i want to open its opening so slow |
| 23:56.27 | TriKster-Abacus | and debian's webpage of packages is down atm |
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| 23:56.32 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus :P I just thought I would remove and install it again |
| 23:56.32 | [Siv0x] | ethernet chord |
| 23:56.33 | TriKster-Abacus | apt-get reinstall ? |
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| 23:56.36 | thingfish | worthy: what happens if you do apt-get install mplayer? |
| 23:56.44 | sjaakz0r | well |
| 23:56.44 | bucky | [Siv0x]: chord? |
| 23:56.45 | sjaakz0r | Trigger13 |
| 23:56.50 | worthy | i'll show you thingfish |
| 23:56.50 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, that package does not install the actual module, you have to make the module |
| 23:56.55 | [Siv0x] | lol |
| 23:56.59 | thingfish | because I think mplayer pulls gmplayer along with it. |
| 23:57.00 | Thug-N-Me | so no one knows ? whats to do ? |
| 23:57.04 | twb | What is the approved way of doing architecture-specific things in debian/rules? |
| 23:57.09 | sjaakz0r | ok...so what to do then TriKster-Abacus ? |
| 23:57.12 | [Siv0x] | an ethernet chord is plugged in from my router to my computer.. |
| 23:57.13 | [Siv0x] | lol |
| 23:57.13 | TriKster-Abacus | I told ya man |
| 23:57.20 | TriKster-Abacus | open a cli / term |
| 23:57.23 | TriKster-Abacus | cd /usr/src |
| 23:57.25 | TriKster-Abacus | mkdir tmp |
| 23:57.26 | TriKster-Abacus | cd tmp |
| 23:57.29 | Muffie | Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory |
| 23:57.34 | Muffie | used to work |
| 23:57.38 | worthy | Reading Package Lists... Done |
| 23:57.38 | TriKster-Abacus | tar -xzvf ../nvidia-kernel-source.tar.gz |
| 23:57.39 | worthy | Building Dependency Tree... Done |
| 23:57.39 | worthy | Package mplayer is a virtual package provided by: |
| 23:57.39 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:57.39 | worthy | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:57.39 | sjaakz0r | because: package nvidia-kernel-source is not available |
| 23:57.42 | TriKster-Abacus | cd modules |
| 23:57.48 | TriKster-Abacus | cd down to the nv directory |
| 23:57.49 | sjaakz0r | because: package nvidia-kernel-source is not available |
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| 23:57.56 | bucky | [Siv0x]: what kind of ethernet cards do you have.. one of those stupid broadcom based gigabyte cards or something? |
| 23:57.58 | TriKster-Abacus | make && make install |
| 23:58.01 | TriKster-Abacus | modprobe nvidia |
| 23:58.03 | worthy | i forgot that a simple click floods it |
| 23:58.08 | worthy | sorry for the flood |
| 23:58.10 | [Siv0x] | no |
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| 23:58.12 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus <---package nvidia-kernel-source is not available |
| 23:58.14 | thingfish | worthy: /join #flood and paste it there. |
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| 23:58.21 | worthy | ok |
| 23:58.22 | [Siv0x] | System(Windows XP Home Edition, Service Pack 2 (5.1 - 2600)) Uptime(2h 49m 50s) Cpu(2-Intel Pentium 4, 2993MHz, 0KB (57% Load)) Ram(Usage: 857/2046MB (41.89%)) Graphic Card(NVIDIA GeForce 6800 ) Screen Resolution(1024x768 32bit 60Hz) Connection(-1 Disk: C 49.13/149GB (32%) Disk: D 108.47/108.47MB (100%)) |
| 23:58.26 | TriKster-Abacus | hmm sjaakz0r are you using stable, testing or unstable? |
| 23:58.31 | [Siv0x] | my b0x is leet son |
| 23:58.33 | *** join/#debian Malagmyr (n=ohmygoth@ti211310a080-3227.bb.online.no) |
| 23:58.43 | ale_ryu | hi everyone |
| 23:58.43 | *** part/#debian twb (n=twb@nat20.cyber.com.au) |
| 23:58.48 | *** join/#debian cappicard (n=cappicar@CPE-72-129-239-219.kc.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.48 | bucky | [Siv0x]: so which driver does it take.. 8139too or a forcedeth driver? |
| 23:58.52 | TriKster-Abacus | it would tell you on your cli login |
| 23:58.57 | Coco | Hello does anyone know how to extract bz2 files; Can't seem to find the command. |
| 23:59.00 | TriKster-Abacus | I am using testing.. I have it |
| 23:59.01 | ale_ryu | I'm still having a problem with alsa |
| 23:59.01 | [Siv0x] | bucky: i'm not sure man.. |
| 23:59.07 | TriKster-Abacus | bunzip2 |
| 23:59.08 | sjaakz0r | stable TriKster-Abacus |
| 23:59.11 | TriKster-Abacus | hmm |
| 23:59.14 | streuner | Coco: /msg dpkg tar |
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| 23:59.26 | sjaakz0r | should I add another source? |
| 23:59.26 | Muffie | Anyone can help me: Failed to open audio device (/dev/dsp): No such file or directory |
| 23:59.39 | *** join/#debian ma3x (n=ma3x@129.90.79.83.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 23:59.41 | Coco | thanks |
| 23:59.44 | streuner | Muffie: load the module for your soundcard |
| 23:59.50 | *** join/#debian FliesLikeABrick (n=Ryan@about/rpi/rawdor) |
| 23:59.55 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, I dunno then, you will have to see if someone else knows how to change your /etc/apt/sources.list (lst?) to use testing packages |
| 23:59.56 | bucky | [Siv0x]: lsmod.. see if 8139too is loaded.. if it's not working.. rmmod 8139too and modprobe forcedeth and try to dhclient that |
