| 00:00.01 | Muffie | streuner : Thanks! Nice! Someone. How can I do that? |
| 00:00.03 | ale_ryu | every single time I reboot my computer I have to run alsaconf |
| 00:00.07 | ma3x | bucky, bucky, bucky, bucky, it worked! |
| 00:00.13 | ma3x | bucky, thank you so much!!! |
| 00:00.21 | bucky | np |
| 00:00.22 | streuner | Muffie: what does 'lspci -v | grep -i audio' say? |
| 00:00.26 | ale_ryu | using alsactl store won't help |
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| 00:00.50 | streuner | Muffie: and what kernel do you have? (cat /proc/version) |
| 00:00.53 | ArmonX | Does anyone know if the Debian netinst comes with gparted |
| 00:00.54 | [Siv0x] | is there any easier ways i can do this? |
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| 00:01.01 | ale_ryu | removing OSS, reconfiguring alsa-base, alsa-utils, and linux-sound base doesn't help either |
| 00:01.10 | Muffie | streuner : 0000:01:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a), and my kernel is 2.6.15-1-k7 |
| 00:01.10 | ma3x | bucky, but why this happened suddenly? do you think that there was initrd line there before or it became necessary now? |
| 00:01.20 | sjaakz0r | ok I got the source TriKster-Abacus I edited my sources.list |
| 00:01.28 | streuner | Muffie: modprobe emu10k1 (OSS) |
| 00:01.29 | Muffie | streuner : Used to work before the dist-upgrade |
| 00:01.41 | ale_ryu | the problem came up when I manually installed kernel 2.6.12 using dpkg |
| 00:02.27 | sjaakz0r | I'm now doing the make install TriKster-Abacus |
| 00:02.27 | streuner | Muffie: wired, upgrading to 2.6.15 is painless mostly |
| 00:02.37 | [Siv0x] | bucky: is there an easier way? |
| 00:02.47 | [Siv0x] | like, linux26, and hit enter |
| 00:02.52 | [Siv0x] | see what it does? |
| 00:02.58 | bucky | [Siv0x]: that's a good idea |
| 00:03.08 | sjaakz0r | ok I get the error I expected TriKster-Abacus...it says I don't have a graphic adapter...and the the geforce 2 needs the nvidie legacy drivers |
| 00:03.10 | [Siv0x] | hmm |
| 00:03.11 | streuner | Muffie: if you want use ALSA just run 'alsaconf' |
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| 00:03.13 | Muffie | streuner : I have upgraded yesterday. Only tried to use sound today. Anyway, its a SB Live. What should I load? |
| 00:03.18 | Thug-N-Me | why is my box toooo slow ? |
| 00:03.22 | ma3x | bucky, do you know how to add that line to reroute the irq? I had that before too |
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| 00:03.35 | Thug-N-Me | loading loading thats all my box knows |
| 00:03.38 | bucky | ma3x: no idea |
| 00:03.41 | Muffie | streuner : is there an alternative to ALSA? I did not know. Is it better? |
| 00:04.06 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus I had to do apt-get install nvidia-kernel-legacy-source :P |
| 00:04.07 | streuner | Muffie: no, OSS is just fine, emu10k1 is painless |
| 00:04.09 | sjaakz0r | instead of the normal |
| 00:04.13 | Thug-N-Me | working on a localbox its like im on a dialup connection |
| 00:04.15 | Thug-N-Me | damm |
| 00:04.26 | ma3x | streuner, do you know how to reroute irq's ? |
| 00:04.28 | Muffie | strangely alsaconf was not found... I have never touched the sound configuration. Was fine from the original SID installation |
| 00:04.34 | bucky | Muffie: did you apt-get alsa-base and alsa-utils and run alsaconf? |
| 00:04.34 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, dunno, I don't have legacy source in my list |
| 00:04.40 | TriKster-Abacus | but to use apt-get |
| 00:04.43 | streuner | ma3x: reroute? |
| 00:04.49 | TriKster-Abacus | apt-get install [file name] |
| 00:04.50 | [Siv0x] | hmm |
| 00:04.50 | Muffie | bucky, Im not sure I want to use ALSA |
| 00:05.05 | [Siv0x] | is there an easier installation method? |
| 00:05.06 | sjaakz0r | I have it trikster, I think this is gonna work |
| 00:05.14 | bucky | Muffie: fine.. just modprobe emu10k1 |
| 00:05.34 | Muffie | bucky : hmmm. module not found... |
| 00:05.35 | streuner | ma3x: if you using a TV-card and soundcard, some cards usually make headaches :-) |
| 00:05.36 | Thug-N-Me | its the help channel open from monday to friday only or what ? |
| 00:05.44 | ma3x | streuner, yes! |
| 00:05.48 | Muffie | bucky: why its gone with this new kernel? |
| 00:05.57 | bucky | Muffie: maybe they dropped oss |
| 00:06.08 | streuner | ma3x: let me guess, you are using haupauge and emu10k1 ? ;-) |
| 00:06.09 | Muffie | bucky : they who? |
| 00:06.18 | ma3x | streuner, there was some line to add in the grub, something like irq=reroute |
| 00:06.19 | bucky | Muffie: Linus |
| 00:06.30 | ma3x | streuner, what's haupauge and emu10k1? |
| 00:06.33 | Muffie | bucky : So, I assume that theres something better |
| 00:06.39 | Muffie | bucky : alsa? |
| 00:06.47 | sjaakz0r | ok TriKster-Abacus I installed the drivers....gonna reboot now to see if it still works :P |
| 00:06.55 | streuner | ma3x: emu10k1 is SB live and haupauge is btw848 usually |
| 00:06.56 | bucky | Muffie: most people have been using alsa for the last five years |
| 00:06.59 | TriKster-Abacus | you dont have to reboot |
| 00:07.02 | TriKster-Abacus | just modprobe nvidia |
| 00:07.12 | TriKster-Abacus | then lsmod to see if it loaded |
| 00:07.18 | TriKster-Abacus | then startx |
| 00:07.24 | sjaakz0r | yeah but the last time I installed them they worked before reboot...and afterwards suddenly they didn't |
| 00:07.24 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: well, your problem is pretty unspecific |
| 00:07.32 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: what other systems did you run on that box? |
| 00:07.34 | streuner | ma3x: they usually use IRQ 5 and that makes headaches |
| 00:07.34 | Muffie | bucky : Well, I have never worried with that until it stopped working. |
| 00:07.47 | bucky | Muffie: you're using unstable? |
| 00:07.54 | [Siv0x] | bucky: is there an easier installation method? |
| 00:07.55 | Muffie | bucky : It simple started working from scratch with SID |
| 00:08.02 | bucky | Muffie: welcome to SID |
| 00:08.03 | Muffie | bucky : yes. Unstable |
| 00:08.14 | Muffie | :) |
| 00:08.23 | ma3x | streuner, no idea what btw848 is and why they make headaches |
| 00:08.26 | sjaakz0r | yeah TriKster-Abacus it works :P thanks man |
| 00:08.36 | ma3x | streuner, about SB live I know |
| 00:08.38 | streuner | ma3x: because they use the same IRQ |
| 00:08.41 | bucky | [Siv0x]: not that i know of.. maybe an easier distro like FC |
| 00:08.43 | Muffie | bucky , so, I should install ALSA? |
| 00:08.51 | ma3x | streuner, and they produce some kind of noise or what? |
| 00:08.54 | Thug-N-Me | azeem fedora , suse mandrivia centos |
| 00:08.54 | ma3x | why they cause headaches? |
| 00:08.56 | bucky | Muffie: i don't know |
| 00:08.59 | [Siv0x] | yeh, but, i like debian.. haha |
| 00:09.04 | streuner | ma3x: they just don't work :-) |
| 00:09.21 | ma3x | oh, so how do you reroute the irq's? |
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| 00:09.35 | bucky | [Siv0x]: is this an integrated nic or a pci card? |
| 00:09.39 | streuner | ma3x: well, on some mobo's they don't work... |
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| 00:10.08 | streuner | ma3x: you are just unable to alter the IRQ at all |
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| 00:10.27 | xantian | good morning all |
| 00:10.28 | bucky | ma3x: why do you want to do that? |
| 00:10.44 | ma3x | bucky, because my wlan interferes with something sometimes |
| 00:10.47 | ma3x | i forgot with what |
| 00:10.50 | xantian | i have problems with LOCALES |
| 00:10.53 | bucky | sound card? |
| 00:11.06 | [Siv0x] | yeh, i think so bucky |
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| 00:11.18 | bucky | xantian: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:11.21 | TriKster-Abacus | sjaakz0r, np |
| 00:11.26 | TriKster-Abacus | now you can help others! |
| 00:11.35 | xantian | can any one help me? me isnt noob i know debian from version 2.1 :P |
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| 00:11.45 | sjaakz0r | TriKster-Abacus yeah....another question..you don't happen to know how nvtv works? |
| 00:11.51 | TriKster-Abacus | no sorry |
| 00:11.51 | bucky | xantian: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
| 00:11.52 | ArmonX | Does anyone know if the Debian netinst comes with gparted |
| 00:11.53 | ale_ryu | any sggestions for me and my alsa problem? |
| 00:11.55 | TriKster-Abacus | sure don't sjaakz0r |
| 00:11.57 | xantian | bucky: this dosnt help me |
| 00:12.05 | bucky | then your screwed |
| 00:12.14 | streuner | ma3x: the best thing is your mobo has more than 2 PCI slots |
| 00:12.20 | Thug-N-Me | azeem thak for your help , really help me ;) |
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| 00:12.33 | xantian | locales under root account have LANG=de_DE and all the rest too |
| 00:12.49 | streuner | ma3x: those with 2 slots just sucks |
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| 00:12.53 | bucky | xantian: which version of debian are you using/ |
| 00:12.58 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: well, "my system is too slow" is really pretty hard to work on, I am sorry to hear that Debian has not met your expectations |
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| 00:12.59 | xantian | my normal account (xantian) have LANG=de_DE but the rest POSIX |
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| 00:13.07 | azeem | but I wouldn't know what to suggest |
| 00:13.20 | bucky | xantian: which version of debian are you using? |
| 00:13.22 | xantian | i using Unstable |
| 00:13.43 | Thug-N-Me | azeem i also said whats slow on it .. never mind |
| 00:13.51 | ma3x | streuner, what about those slots? that's not important. the thing is wireless uses irq 11 and something else, maybe the mouse uses irq11 |
| 00:13.52 | bucky | [Siv0x]: what's your motherboard? |
| 00:14.05 | ma3x | streuner, I forgot, what file you cat to view those interfaces? |
| 00:14.11 | ma3x | there was some specific file |
| 00:14.18 | azeem | 00:57 < Thug-N-Me> why is my box toooo slow ? |
| 00:14.21 | azeem | 00:58 < Thug-N-Me> loading loading thats all my box knows |
| 00:14.21 | xantian | google dosent help me rootforum.de too and debianer.de to |
| 00:14.25 | azeem | 00:58 < Thug-N-Me> working on a localbox its like im on a dialup connection |
| 00:14.35 | azeem | I haven't seen much more, sorry |
| 00:14.38 | streuner | ma3x: cat /proc/interupt or such |
| 00:14.42 | Thug-N-Me | azeem read more |
| 00:14.53 | ma3x | streuner, correct! |
| 00:15.20 | Thug-N-Me | azeem even the gtk theme its shi* i cant see anything .. and all the buttons are too small |
| 00:15.53 | Thug-N-Me | azeem the way apt works it might be the only thing i like on it ;) |
| 00:15.56 | azeem | that's because you're using GTK1 applications I guess, you can tell them to use larger fonts/another theme in ~/.gtkrc I believe |
| 00:16.04 | bucky | Thug-N-Me: turn your resolution up to 1600x1200 |
| 00:16.33 | Thug-N-Me | bucky i cannot even choise that |
| 00:16.33 | [Siv0x] | bucky: what you mean, whats my motherboard? |
| 00:16.42 | ma3x | streuner, now what do I add on the line in grub to reroute the irq's? |
| 00:16.42 | xantian | hmm, sorry any idee? |
| 00:16.47 | bucky | [Siv0x]: that's what i mean.. |
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| 00:17.10 | bucky | Thug-N-Me: ctl-alt-<minus> |
| 00:17.31 | streuner | ma3x: sorry, i have no idea about grub at all, but you need kerneloptions |
| 00:17.31 | [Siv0x] | no idea, intel pentium 4 |
| 00:17.46 | jnk | xantian, what's the problem with locales? |
| 00:18.15 | Thug-N-Me | bucky ctl-alt-<minus> doesnt works only plus which makes it bigger too big |
| 00:18.17 | streuner | ma3x: those things you add to the bootloader |
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| 00:18.32 | xantian | under root account i have LANG0de_DE and the rest to but under my normal account i have LANG=de_DE but the rest is POSIX |
| 00:18.36 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 00:18.36 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 00:18.43 | swatikiss | im having problems booting up my laptop... it keeps complaining there is a problem with the hard drive... that the last mount time is in the future,... i run fsck and fix the "problems", but everytime I reboot it says the same thing.. whats going on ? |
| 00:18.44 | ma3x | streuner, yup. anyway do you know, why when I run update-grub, it always updates my hd0,1 to hd0,2 |
| 00:18.52 | ma3x | streuner, and i have only /dev/hda2 no 3 |
| 00:18.54 | [Siv0x] | bucky: is there iso's that don't requier internet? |
| 00:19.19 | Thug-N-Me | azeem are you not using gtk applications ? |
| 00:19.20 | jnk | xantian, by the rest you mean other localization environment variables? |
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| 00:19.27 | bucky | [Siv0x]: yes but you'll run into the same problem again |
| 00:19.28 | xantian | jnk LC_CTYPE="POSIX" |
| 00:19.28 | azeem | Thug-N-Me: only GTK2 ones |
| 00:19.35 | xantian | yes |
| 00:19.38 | [Siv0x] | ;\ |
| 00:19.42 | streuner | [Siv0x]: without i-net debian is not debian |
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| 00:19.48 | Devil_Kin | bucky: thx, that image DOES work |
| 00:19.54 | [Siv0x] | i know this |
| 00:19.55 | [Siv0x] | but |
| 00:19.55 | bucky | np |
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| 00:20.00 | jnk | xantian, and which do you want: the root or you account settings? |
| 00:20.02 | [Siv0x] | i can get debian setup if i can get into konsole atleast |
| 00:20.09 | [Siv0x] | i mean, dhclient |
| 00:20.12 | [Siv0x] | ifconfig eth0 |
| 00:20.20 | xantian | my account |
| 00:20.24 | [Siv0x] | anything is better then fooling with this shit. |
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| 00:20.28 | duckdown | Hi all.. Can someone please help me, I just installed a stock version of Etch, and my ethernet works great, but I can't find out what I need to enable in my kernel to get it to work.. I did a recompile once already and apparently missed it because it's not working |
| 00:20.37 | swatikiss | is there a way to bypass the fsck check? why does it keep coming back to this screen? |
| 00:20.50 | azeem | duckdown: why do you need to recompile the kernel? |
| 00:21.02 | duckdown | azeem: sound, and ipv6 |
| 00:21.04 | jnk | xantian, I guess you check ~root/.bash_profile and ~/.bashrc or the relevant files, as well as /etc/environment ? |
| 00:21.07 | Laibsch | Today I switched out the Intel 440bx based mobo with a PIII@450MHz from my LAN server and replaced it with an ASUS P6SEP-Me running a Cyrix III 600MHZ CPU. Now Linux fails to boot from the HD (Knoppix and Win98 work). It hangs right at the start after the lilo prompt. There are only three lines: "boot" "Loading Linux" "Bios data check successful" Anybody have an idea what could be failing? |
| 00:21.10 | xantian | duckdown: apt-get install modules-assistant |
| 00:21.14 | streuner | [Siv0x]: /msg dpkg interfaces |
| 00:21.35 | duckdown | xantian: To help me identify what modules are being used right now? |
| 00:21.50 | xantian | jnk, i have chacked this and removed the *.mo files |
| 00:21.50 | Thug-N-Me | azeem firefox ist got nothing to do with it .. it shouldnt be loading so slow. i can click on firefox icon then crab some food then i can browser sites ;) |
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| 00:21.58 | Thug-N-Me | *grab |
| 00:22.09 | duckdown | xantian: Couldn't find package modules-assistant |
| 00:22.09 | bucky | [Siv0x]: you're not at a university where they filter by mac or something are you? |
| 00:22.14 | Laibsch | duckdown: lsmod |
| 00:22.22 | riley | How can I set a script to execute on startup? It just needs the one invocation after the system has fully booted. |
| 00:22.32 | bucky | duckdown: drop the s |
| 00:22.36 | Laibsch | riley: crontab -e |
| 00:22.39 | bucky | module-assistant |
| 00:22.40 | [Siv0x] | no, i'm at my home computer.. |
| 00:22.44 | bucky | or apt-get it |
| 00:22.49 | xantian | sorry duck drop the -s |
| 00:22.56 | duckdown | ahh cool |
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| 00:23.01 | Laibsch | riley: Then enter an @reboot command line |
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| 00:23.14 | jnk | xantian, I don't know then sorry |
| 00:23.18 | riley | Laibsch ah, I didnt know about @reboot, thanks |
| 00:23.25 | Laibsch | np |
| 00:23.33 | xantian | jnc, i too :(((( |
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| 00:23.59 | bucky | [Siv0x]: which driver does lsmod say you have loaded now for your ethernet card? |
| 00:24.03 | duckdown | Tigon 3 / tg3 |
| 00:24.08 | swatikiss | how do i save my system time to harddrive? |
| 00:24.13 | duckdown | I can't find that in kernel config |
| 00:24.23 | [Siv0x] | i'm not booted into linux atm.. |
| 00:24.24 | swatikiss | how do i save my system time to hardware i mean |
| 00:24.30 | azeem | swatikiss: hwdate |
| 00:24.31 | Laibsch | swatikiss: why would you want to? |
| 00:24.31 | xantian | ducjtown: apt-get install modconf can you help better ;) |
| 00:24.35 | [Siv0x] | i can't lsmod |
| 00:24.38 | sjaakz0r | can anyone tell me how I can set my tv output so that the whole desktop is on my tv...not just 1 4th of the screen ? |
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| 00:25.04 | Laibsch | sjaakz0r: try f |
| 00:25.07 | bucky | duckdown: lsmod will tell you what modules are loaded right now.. is that what you wanted? |
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| 00:25.20 | [Siv0x] | and, i can't get slackware installed either, bcuz it won't partition my drive, so i chose debian, now i can't get debian installed, i installed it on vmware a few hrs ago.. and done just fine, but when i decide to install to my h/d it doesn't turn out so well.. |
| 00:25.27 | swatikiss | Laibsch, because my laptop wont boot ... it complains that the last mount time was in the future... so i am trying to fix this... |
| 00:25.27 | MDC | what is the salt for md5 passwords in /etc/shadow? |
| 00:25.28 | sjaakz0r | Laibsch where should I try f? |
| 00:25.37 | duckdown | bucky: Well I can't find out what to enable in menuconfig to make my ethernet work |
| 00:25.47 | duckdown | bucky: but the stock kernel im in right now, its fine |
| 00:26.15 | bucky | duckdown: you don't like the precompiled kernels available with apt-get ? |
| 00:26.23 | xantian | ducktown: you dont need to compile youre own Kernel :) |
| 00:26.41 | duckdown | My sound doesnt work though :( |
| 00:26.48 | xantian | install linux-kernel-XXX then module-assistant |
| 00:27.01 | xantian | then modconf |
| 00:27.02 | duckdown | OK let me try that |
| 00:27.06 | duckdown | Thanks |
| 00:27.07 | xantian | try modconf |
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| 00:27.14 | bucky | duckdown: which version of debian ? |
| 00:27.19 | duckdown | bucky: Etch |
| 00:27.23 | Thug-N-Me | did anyone installed Debian services control panel ? |
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| 00:27.33 | bucky | duckdown: apt-cache search linux-image and choose one |
| 00:27.53 | sjaakz0r | I dpkg-reconfigured my xfree86 to use 640*480 but it doesn't adjust when I startx |
| 00:27.53 | sjaakz0r | what could be the problem |
| 00:28.00 | [Siv0x] | bucky, brb gotta restart.. |
| 00:28.03 | bucky | then apt-get install alsa-base alsa-utils and run alsaconf |
| 00:28.29 | duckdown | My touchpad on the laptop is also buggered too though.. It's moving super-slow |
| 00:28.36 | duckdown | Could that be kernel related? |
| 00:29.01 | xantian | this is the problem from youre xorg.conf or xfree |
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| 00:29.57 | xantian | ducktown: try synaptek or so |
| 00:30.13 | xantian | or synaptics |
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| 00:30.38 | jnk | duckdown, I had that once, but it was okay after a reboot |
| 00:30.50 | bucky | duckdown: prolly should have chosen /dev/psaux and ImPS/2 in dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 00:30.54 | duckdown | jnk: It just happened when I reinstalled etch over stable |
| 00:30.55 | Edgardoweb | http://www.entrecopas.com |
| 00:31.02 | Edgardoweb | usa linux? |
| 00:31.10 | worthy | i have a few more issues thingfish :-( |
| 00:31.14 | jnk | duckdown, but did you reboot (after the first reboot) ? |
| 00:31.19 | duckdown | jnk: Yes sir |
| 00:31.30 | thingfish | worthy: that is certainly not impossible. such as? |
| 00:31.45 | worthy | I have an error: New_Face failed. Maybe the fon't path is wrong. Please supply the text front file (~/.mplayer/subfont.ttf |
| 00:31.47 | jnk | duckdown, then follow xantian's advice |
| 00:31.54 | duckdown | will do |
| 00:32.00 | bucky | Edgardoweb: where's the party? |
| 00:32.05 | worthy | and i don't have any sound thingfish |
| 00:32.32 | thingfish | worthy: do uname -r in a terminal. |
| 00:32.34 | xantian | jnk: sorry i have not only Unstable ;) i have testing+unstable+experemental |
| 00:32.40 | xantian | smile |
| 00:33.03 | Edgardoweb | bucky, yes |
| 00:33.09 | thingfish | and worthy - is this a fresh sarge install? |
| 00:33.18 | bucky | Edgardoweb: http://tinyurl.com/dvv62 |
| 00:33.20 | worthy | ok thingfish |
| 00:33.42 | duckdown | OK I cleaned out my /usr/src/ of the kernel source that I downloaded and unpacked, but theres nothing else here. Also, my NDISWRAPPER needs /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build to be full of files, but mine only has a couple. What needs to be installed for that? linux-image-2.6.12-1-386 is what is installed according to aptitude |
| 00:33.42 | worthy | uname -r is 2.4.27-2-386 |
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| 00:34.09 | thingfish | worthy: is this a relatively old-ish, or new-ish machine? |
| 00:34.13 | xantian | need an developer an web account? i Hoster :) |
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| 00:34.27 | Edgardoweb | bucky, thanks ;) |
| 00:34.32 | worthy | new motherboard about a year and a half. the rest is about 5 years |
| 00:34.46 | xantian | ducktown? Unpacked? |
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| 00:34.57 | duckdown | xantian: Yes I downloaded the kernel from kernel.org |
| 00:35.06 | xantian | hmm? |
| 00:35.14 | xantian | need you this? |
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| 00:35.19 | xantian | no. |
| 00:35.26 | Koudelkaa | hi, im having a bit of a problem with a network driver nforce 4 |
| 00:35.30 | worthy | i don't need the font thingfish ? |
| 00:35.38 | worthy | how about my sound |
| 00:35.38 | xantian | apt-get install module-assistant |
| 00:35.41 | xantian | then |
| 00:35.42 | duckdown | I need a /lib/modules/`uname -r`/build directory to contain stuff, like an include directory |
| 00:35.44 | Koudelkaa | my debian netinstall cd cant find it |
| 00:35.55 | thingfish | worthy: font? who said anything about font? |
| 00:36.01 | xantian | module-assistant preapare |
| 00:36.24 | xantian | assistant get any linux sources |
| 00:36.27 | worthy | i got an error that said i needed to put subfont.ttf in ~/.mplayer/ |
| 00:36.39 | duckdown | xantian: Doing prepare now :) |
| 00:36.42 | xantian | the you try modconf |
| 00:36.48 | worthy | i can do that, but how do i get sound? |
| 00:37.00 | Withdraw | i jsut finished doing an hd install of auditor and it automaticly setup the boot folder in the root partition. how do i make linux boot off a different partition? |
| 00:37.00 | xantian | yeah sorry duck :) |
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| 00:37.14 | duckdown | no thank you :) |
| 00:37.28 | duckdown | err "no, thank YOU" :) |
| 00:37.40 | thingfish | worthy: again, I ask you: please open a terminal, type su, give it root's password, and type uname -r |
| 00:37.43 | moodsoft | hi all, in debian how do I tell it not to auto launch X at boot? |
| 00:37.43 | bucky | Koudelkaa which motherboard? |
| 00:37.44 | Withdraw | i basicly want to copy everything from my /boot into a separate partition and hafve it boot off that new partition |
| 00:37.54 | worthy | uname -r is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 00:37.57 | Koudelkaa | when i use my debian amd64 netinstall cd i can use forcedeath driver nforce2, but it dosent work on debian netinstall stable i386 |
| 00:38.10 | worthy | uname -r is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 00:38.17 | vipe | how do I turn of the kill switch of an ipw2200 interface on a thinkpad ? |
| 00:38.25 | vipe | s/of/off/ |
| 00:38.30 | Koudelkaa | i386 version wants a module name >> |
| 00:38.41 | thingfish | worthy: again, is this an old-ish computer, or a new-ish one? |
| 00:38.45 | xantian | mood youre X.CONF file ist corrupt |
| 00:39.01 | bucky | Koudelkaa /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 00:39.02 | xantian | mood try as ROOT |
| 00:39.04 | xantian | X |
| 00:39.07 | worthy | new motherboard thingfish but the hard drive and other stuff is about 5 years old |
| 00:39.12 | xantian | and you get any errors |
| 00:39.25 | moodsoft | xantian huh? |
| 00:39.29 | worthy | thingfish: old i guess |
| 00:39.32 | thingfish | worthy: ok is the cpu a P4? or an Athlon64? |
| 00:39.39 | duckdown | Awesome |
| 00:39.41 | thingfish | worthy: or PIII? |
| 00:39.43 | worthy | amd athalon |
| 00:39.47 | thingfish | cool |
| 00:39.47 | duckdown | got NDISwrapper going thanks to modules-assistant and xantian |
| 00:39.52 | xantian | mood log you into the root account with your root pw |
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| 00:40.00 | xantian | and type BIG X |
| 00:40.02 | duckdown | brb |
| 00:40.07 | xantian | then <enter> |
| 00:40.14 | devicenull | how can I get something to run every day without me doing anything |
| 00:40.16 | moodsoft | xantian for what? |
| 00:40.29 | Roots | Does anyone know if the OpenAL package maintainer is still active? I e-mailed him about a week ago because OpenAL is severly out of date (unstable = 0.8.0, latest = 1.1.0 with lots of API changes) and offered to help, but never got a reply back. I'm investigating building my own OpenAL package from the latest source tarball... |
| 00:40.38 | bucky | devicenull: crontab |
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| 00:40.45 | ladyisabel77 | !it |
| 00:40.45 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
| 00:40.47 | xantian | huuups sorry <moodsoft> hi all, in debian how do I tell it not to auto launch X at boot? |
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| 00:40.51 | xantian | :P |
| 00:40.59 | thingfish | hey amd users, should a regular athlon user use (in sarge) a K7 kernel image? |
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| 00:41.06 | xantian | we have 1:40 AM |
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| 00:41.59 | bucky | thingfish: yes |
| 00:42.09 | devicenull | bucky, thanks reading its manpage |
| 00:42.10 | worthy | i need a new kernel? |
| 00:42.12 | thingfish | bucky: thanks buddy. |
| 00:42.12 | worthy | ouch |
| 00:42.29 | Withdraw | how do i move my /boot folder out of my root partition to its own partition? |
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| 00:43.01 | thingfish | worthy: do apt-get install kernel-image-2.6.8-2-k7 alsa-base alsa-utils |
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| 00:43.07 | Edgardoweb | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:43.07 | Edgardoweb | [TR0N] l { / ,__\ |
| 00:43.07 | Edgardoweb | [TR0N] l { `}'- -/ |
| 00:43.07 | Edgardoweb | [TR0N] l {`}'\ _, |
| 00:43.07 | Edgardoweb | ajha Diganle NO a las drogas, queda poca u somos muchos |
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| 00:43.09 | worthy | lol |
| 00:43.13 | worthy | thingfish rocks |
| 00:43.16 | thingfish | bah |
| 00:43.16 | worthy | oh hold on |
| 00:43.20 | thingfish | I'm guessing. |
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| 00:43.49 | thingfish | hehe and drinking! |
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| 00:44.10 | thingfish | yeehaw! |
| 00:44.16 | duckdown | xantian: Kind sir, can you please tell me what to check out for the touchpad again? I closed my client :( |
| 00:44.58 | xantian | ducktown: apget the synaptics or so |
| 00:45.13 | duckdown | I thought synaptic was a package selection program? |
| 00:45.20 | duckdown | oh synapticS |
| 00:45.26 | xantian | for youre toutchpad |
| 00:45.29 | xantian | yes |
| 00:45.35 | devicenull | so basically I just add a line to /etc/crontab |
| 00:45.50 | worthy | ok thingfish it installed :-) |
| 00:45.51 | xantian | mood?? |
| 00:45.53 | duckdown | xantian: It's telling me its not available but is referred to by another package, and the following package 'tpconfig' replaces it? |
| 00:46.03 | worthy | reboot now thingfish ? |
| 00:46.06 | thingfish | worthy: ok reboot |
| 00:46.06 | xantian | yes |
| 00:46.10 | worthy | ok |
| 00:46.11 | worthy | brb |
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| 00:46.26 | bucky | devicenull: to run an executible... it's easier to find an example on google |
| 00:46.26 | xantian | moodsoft |
| 00:46.31 | xantian | !moodsoft |
| 00:46.37 | duckdown | I think my sources.list is missing some important entries.. theres only like 3 lines! |
| 00:46.38 | xantian | id:5:initdefault: -> Runlevel 5 =X11-Login |
| 00:46.38 | xantian | id:3:initdefault: -> Runlevel 3 =Konsole-Login |
| 00:46.43 | devicenull | well yea |
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| 00:46.57 | devicenull | I found one, Im just making sure theres no extra command I have to to get it to run |
| 00:47.04 | xantian | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:47.25 | xantian | duck twait |
| 00:47.27 | Koudelkaa | how come forcedeath can work with my ethernet card in amd64netinstall and not with i386netinstall |
| 00:47.34 | Koudelkaa | ? |
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| 00:47.54 | bucky | forcedeth is reverse engineered.. YMMV |
| 00:48.14 | xantian | ducktown try this in youre sources.lis |
| 00:48.41 | xantian | main contrib non-free restricted |
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| 00:49.05 | worthy | ok thingfish im back |
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| 00:49.29 | worthy | uname -r is 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 00:49.32 | duckdown | Here is my TINY sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/36823 |
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| 00:49.43 | worthy | is that the same thing thingfish or no |
| 00:49.44 | duckdown | xantian: OK let me look hang on |
| 00:49.46 | worthy | i don't remember |
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| 00:50.06 | Koudelkaa | is there i way i can fix it so it works with i386 install also? |
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| 00:50.21 | bucky | Koudelkaa /msg dpkg sarge 2.6.14 |
| 00:50.21 | shadow98 | anybody know of a good guide for setting up snort on debian with acid? |
| 00:50.41 | duckdown | xantian: Where do I write that? After the 'etch main' ? |
| 00:50.55 | duckdown | xantian: Did you see my sources.list http://pastebin.ca/36823 |
| 00:51.07 | xantian | ducktown: after main main contrib non-free |
| 00:51.12 | xantian | ups |
| 00:51.18 | duckdown | i dont have even that ;( |
| 00:51.34 | xantian | duck after main this => contrib non-free |
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| 00:51.46 | Farris1 | If I build a module from source, where should I place it so that a modprobe will find it? |
| 00:51.49 | Koudelkaa | bucky, it works with that cd? |
| 00:51.51 | duckdown | xantian: On th deb http:// line or the deb-src http:// line, or both? |
| 00:51.55 | thingfish | worthy: you were supposed to boot to the new kernel. |
| 00:51.58 | bucky | Koudelkaa maybe |
| 00:52.12 | michal_ | hi.. if i have a package installed.. libpolyp0.. and i want to find out what url it's currently available from.. how can i do so using apt-cache? or another tool |
| 00:52.12 | xantian | deb and deb-src |
| 00:52.17 | duckdown | xantian: cool, thanks |
| 00:52.27 | worthy | i just thought about that thingfish. isn't it supposed to be in the list where gnome and kde and things are? |
| 00:52.33 | bucky | Koudelkaa i didn't have any trouble with forcedeth on an abit NF-7 |
| 00:52.37 | xantian | np duck |
| 00:52.40 | thingfish | worthy: yes, it sure is. |
| 00:52.49 | worthy | ok i'll try again |
| 00:52.49 | worthy | brb |
| 00:52.54 | Koudelkaa | bucky, i got a abit kn8 ultra |
| 00:52.55 | jnk | michal_, google? (or do you want the url for the package?) |
| 00:52.59 | thingfish | worthy: maybe use synaptic. open a terminal, su to root, and type synaptic. |
| 00:53.00 | Koudelkaa | and big problems |
| 00:53.21 | duckdown | Koudelkaa: Is that the 939 board? I have one and LOVE it |
| 00:53.22 | michal_ | jnk: url for the package file |
| 00:53.27 | bucky | Koudelkaa: so you want to run 32 bit on a amd64? |
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| 00:53.32 | Koudelkaa | duckdown, yes |
| 00:53.34 | xantian | Ok Peops i try my special prog |
| 00:53.35 | michal_ | jnk: particularly the one available via apt-get install |
| 00:53.36 | jnk | michal_, apt-cache showpkg libpolyp0 |
| 00:53.43 | duckdown | It works amazing for me |
| 00:53.49 | duckdown | i love abit |
| 00:53.50 | xantian | sh ./dev/go/sleep |
| 00:53.52 | Koudelkaa | bucky, yes unstabel/testing is nothing for me |
| 00:53.58 | thingfish | worthy: then in the Search field, enter kernel-image |
| 00:54.04 | michal_ | jnk: that doesn't contain the url |
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| 00:54.16 | bucky | Koudelkaa: why aren't you running 32 bit apps in the chroot? |
| 00:54.47 | jnk | michal_, right, I thought it contained the relevant part but it doesn't... |
| 00:54.54 | Koudelkaa | bucky, ? |
| 00:55.00 | astroman | question: i am new to debian and linux in general, how long should it take to dl the dvd image jigdo files? |
| 00:55.01 | bucky | Koudelkaa: https://alioth.debian.org/docman/view.php/30192/21/debian-amd64-howto.html |
| 00:55.10 | jnk | michal_, that's just "apt-cache show libpolyp0" |
| 00:55.21 | Farris1 | when you build a module from source, where are you supposed to put it so that you can modprobe it or load it at boot? |
| 00:55.24 | jnk | michal_, you have to prepend the debian mirror you're using |
| 00:55.40 | Koudelkaa | astroman, dosent that depend on your connection? |
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| 00:55.53 | michal_ | jnk: how do i know which one it's on? it could be any of the sources |
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| 00:56.07 | bucky | astroman: you should download the 100M netinstall iso |
| 00:56.14 | michal_ | why isn't it possible to get apt-get to REinstall an already installed package? |
| 00:56.17 | astroman | ok |
| 00:56.21 | bucky | !tell astroman about d-i |
| 00:56.29 | astroman | cause its been going for like 4 hours |
| 00:56.33 | michal_ | then i could just use simulate and --print-uris |
| 00:56.40 | EleckttrusS | Como se cuales son las salas que exiten en freenode? |
| 00:56.53 | astroman | thank you |
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| 00:57.38 | sonyman | Can someone help me figure out why the audio is out of sync on any videos I watch? Debian Etch |
| 00:57.38 | michal_ | here's the answer |
| 00:57.39 | michal_ | Reinstallation of libpolyp0 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded. |
| 00:57.50 | liable | Farris1: the module instructions should tell you what you need to do. |
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| 00:58.58 | Farris1 | liable: Which module instructions? |
| 00:59.21 | liable | Farris1: the install file or readme.. |
| 00:59.27 | worthy | im back |
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| 00:59.33 | Farris1 | liable: Isn't that a distribution-level thing? debian keeps it's modules in one place, redhat in another |
| 00:59.41 | thingfish | I saw. |
| 00:59.41 | worthy | uname - r is now 2.6.8-2-k7 |
| 00:59.54 | thingfish | yay. |
| 00:59.56 | worthy | :-) |
| 01:00.02 | Farris1 | liable: Nah, there is no install file or readme for this source package. Well, there is one, but it says "for redhat, do this... for suse, do this... for all else, figure it out your damn self" |
| 01:00.03 | worthy | but, i don't have my dual boot |
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| 01:00.07 | worthy | windows xp |
| 01:00.30 | jnk | michal_, yeah otherwise you have the --reinstall optoin |
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| 01:00.44 | liable | Farris1: debians are in /lib/modules, most source will install them with make install, otherwise they tell you what to do.. |
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| 01:00.49 | worthy | thingfish what do i type at the commandlne to get my dual boot back |
| 01:01.01 | Farris1 | liable: Agreed... most... this one does neither |
| 01:01.07 | thingfish | worthy: do dpkg -s alsa-base | grep Status |
| 01:01.29 | thingfish | worthy: we didn't do anything to change your dual boot capability. |
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| 01:01.50 | liable | Farris1: whats this for anyway? not a realteck wireless card? |
| 01:01.57 | X000XBinary | Im glad to say debian is up and running now I decided XP wasnt worthy of being my home OS |
| 01:02.08 | worthy | thingfish Status: install ok installed |
| 01:02.17 | Farris1 | liable: A 3ware 9550SX raid card |
| 01:02.42 | worthy | it gave me a chice of two different kernals to boot from and the windows xp choice wasn't in the menu |
| 01:02.47 | liable | Farris1: is that a new one that doesnt have modules in kernel yet? |
| 01:02.56 | worthy | i need to restore the boot loader |
| 01:02.58 | Farris1 | liable: Yes |
| 01:03.00 | worthy | to the first part |
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| 01:03.28 | thingfish | worthy: that is unfortunate, however nothing we did should have removed winxp from the grub menu. |
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| 01:03.45 | worthy | i'll see if i can do it from the cd |
| 01:03.46 | worthy | brb |
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| 01:03.52 | thingfish | worthy: if it's gone, too bad, I can't help you, other than to reinstall grub. |
| 01:03.58 | thingfish | ok |
| 01:04.21 | thingfish | you know, I never have these kinds of problems. why do other people. |
| 01:04.28 | Laibsch | Today I switched out the Intel 440bx based mobo with a PIII@450MHz from my LAN server and replaced it with an ASUS P6SEP-Me running a Cyrix III 600MHZ CPU. Now Linux fails to boot from the HD (Knoppix and Win98 work). It hangs right at the start after the lilo prompt. There are only three lines: "boot" "Loading Linux" "Bios data check successful" Anybody have an idea what could be failing? |
| 01:04.55 | huhlig | hey, anyone know if there is a way to make a debian install keychain from windows |
| 01:05.08 | liable | Farris1: well, stick em in /lib/modules/uname -r/kernel/drivers/scsi, run depmod -a and suck it and see :) |
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| 01:05.30 | anapivirtua | bn to all people in the world (bon je sais, je vois grand...) |
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| 01:06.13 | ddrmanxbxfr | hi! |
| 01:06.26 | ddrmanxbxfr | how can i install my nvidia driver for xfree86 ? |
| 01:06.30 | ddrmanxbxfr | how can i install my nvidia driver for xfree86 ? |
| 01:06.43 | huhlig | kill x and run the installer |
| 01:06.52 | ddrmanxbxfr | but its not working |
| 01:06.56 | ddrmanxbxfr | i tried and it says |
| 01:07.05 | ddrmanxbxfr | that i was needing a kernel interface |
| 01:07.05 | thingfish | !tell ddrmanxbxfr about nvidia one-liner |
| 01:07.20 | ddrmanxbxfr | ok |
| 01:07.29 | ddrmanxbxfr | thingfish: with this command ill have my nvidia ? |
| 01:07.31 | ddrmanxbxfr | driver |
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| 01:09.09 | ddrmanxbxfr | but when i try to do apt-get install module-assistant exemple it says packet not found |
| 01:09.09 | SIGNUKE | hi? |
| 01:09.17 | ddrmanxbxfr | but when i try to do apt-get install module-assistant exemple it says paket not found |
| 01:09.21 | ddrmanxbxfr | what do i do ? |
| 01:09.42 | yennyKa | Hola a todos!! quisiera saber si alguno de uds. ha configurado kerberos en debian sarge ? |
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| 01:10.47 | shadow98 | there is an awesome step by step guide for installing snort on centOS at snorts website is there anything like this for debian? |
| 01:10.55 | beardy | !es |
| 01:10.55 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 01:11.07 | yennyKa | Hello to all! it wanted to know if some of you has formed Kerberos in debian sarge? |
| 01:11.24 | beardy | !tell yennyKa -about search |
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| 01:13.54 | Koudelkaa | isn't there any way of checking what module my amd64netnstall is using for forcedeath? |
| 01:15.14 | SIGNUKE | I think my last _dist-upgrade_ killed my X's keymap. Xorg's logs are flooded with "Couldn't compile keymap file"... does anyone know _where_ to start? |
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| 01:17.00 | worthy | ok now im going to go get my subfont.ttf |
| 01:17.11 | worthy | thanks so much thingfish :-) |
| 01:17.22 | bucky | Farris1: did that redhat shit load? |
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| 01:17.29 | SIGNUKE | mplayer? |
| 01:17.58 | bucky | !tell SIGNUKE about marillat |
| 01:18.06 | SIGNUKE | I know! |
| 01:18.17 | bucky | SIGNUKE: mplayer? |
| 01:18.47 | bucky | SIGNUKE: what version of debian are you using? |
| 01:18.48 | SIGNUKE | yes... it's always a bit tricky to get the mplayer-fonts & mplayer-skin packages ... because their're in AMD64 |
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| 01:19.02 | SIGNUKE | oops... aren't |
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| 01:20.46 | SIGNUKE | but.. bucky... do you know anything about _broken_ Xorg Keymaps? |
| 01:21.36 | SIGNUKE | I've the _strange_ feeling... i'm not the only one... but I can't find anything useful through google... |
| 01:21.38 | bucky | SIGNUKE: what version of debian are you using? |
| 01:21.53 | SIGNUKE | is SID/unstable ... enough? |
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| 01:22.05 | bucky | SIGNUKE: amd64 ? |
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| 01:22.11 | SIGNUKE | yes |
| 01:22.26 | SIGNUKE | but I've also a i386-chroot... |
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| 01:22.40 | bucky | SIGNUKE: have you asked in #debian-amd64 it might be a common problem |
| 01:22.50 | CasaNova_ | What is a short list (link fine) of packages I will require to start compiling c/c++ code? |
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| 01:23.01 | SIGNUKE | hmm? no... thanks! |
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| 01:23.50 | bucky | CasaNova_: apt-get install build-essentials will get you everything.. are you strapped for hard drive space? |
| 01:24.16 | bucky | build-essential |
| 01:24.23 | CasaNova_ | bucky: No I don't think so - My / is kinds tight but most every important dir is on virtual space... |
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| 01:26.09 | CasaNova_ | hey |
| 01:26.20 | CasaNova_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:26.22 | cr3_ | what's the name of the kde clipper application? I'm trying to find the corresponding web page. |
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| 01:27.06 | bucky | cr3_: klipper ? |
| 01:27.14 | SIGNUKE | ... |
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| 01:27.47 | bpuzon | cr3_ klipper? |
| 01:27.55 | bucky | !win bucky |
| 01:27.56 | dpkg | Congratulations, bucky! You have won the time-life collection of vintage AOL CDs, a set of 120! |
| 01:28.04 | visit0r | hi, I'm trying to create a .deb of new alsa lib (from Ubuntu Dapper) but debian/rules binary fails at compiler test even though configure works. any hints? |
| 01:28.09 | SIGNUKE | @âéö¤ <--- thanks! bucky |
| 01:28.17 | bucky | np |
| 01:28.23 | SIGNUKE | gn8 |
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| 01:29.00 | Farris1 | bubby: Yeah, it worked |
| 01:29.06 | Farris1 | But this NFS thing is killing me |
| 01:29.07 | bucky | visit0r: are the alsa libs from debian not good enough? |
| 01:29.07 | CasaNova_ | OK build-essential says I have everythign installed great ... |
| 01:29.23 | Farris1 | I've never been HUGELY impressed with linux NFS, but I've never seen performance this bad |
| 01:29.34 | bucky | Farris1 apparently the 2.6.15 kernel supports that card |
| 01:29.35 | visit0r | bucky: I'm running Ubuntu Breezy at the moment and need never alsa libs backported |
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| 01:29.57 | Farris1 | bucky: Yeah, I think so |
| 01:29.58 | bucky | visit0r: have you asked in #ubuntu ? |
| 01:30.04 | visit0r | bucky: guys at #ubuntu could not help, so I thought someone here might now of this .deb build process. |
| 01:30.09 | Farris1 | bucky: Right now I'm more concerned with NFS performance |
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| 01:30.37 | visit0r | bucky: http://pastebin.com/506155 here's the config.log if you can take a lookm |
| 01:31.20 | bpuzon | Hello... I'm issung a command like variable=`cat file`. What should I do to have newline chars included in $variable? (They are now converted to spaces I think) |
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| 01:33.54 | moomintroll | Hi can someone tell me if the follwing 'df' output on an 'unstable' system looks right ? |
| 01:33.56 | moomintroll | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 01:33.58 | moomintroll | tmpfs 258304 0 258304 0% /dev/shm |
| 01:33.58 | moomintroll | tmpfs 10240 808 9432 8% /dev |
| 01:34.23 | huhlig | possible |
| 01:34.29 | huhlig | depends on how its set up |
| 01:34.30 | kspath | unpossible? |
| 01:34.47 | moomintroll | why two 'tmpfs' entries? What kind of a mountpoint is /dev ? |
| 01:35.17 | huhlig | because both are dynamically generated directories |
| 01:35.22 | huhlig | they disapear on shutdown |
| 01:35.37 | huhlig | shm is... |
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| 01:37.00 | moomintroll | huhlig: It was the result of an 'apt-get dist-upgrade'. I upgraded form sarge to 'unstable' (actually meant to upgrade to 'testing')) |
| 01:38.00 | moomintroll | huhlig : hadn't done too much out of the ordinary to my 'sarge' system before then. |
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| 01:39.30 | frbn | bpuzon, probably by changing the IFS shell variable |
| 01:39.51 | cr3_ | anyone know about a clipboard application with history like klipper which might work with other window managers like twm for example? |
| 01:40.54 | bpuzon | frbn Thanx, checking |
| 01:41.32 | huhlig | hey anyone here familier with dd for windows? |
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| 01:43.21 | bucky | cr3_: theres xfce4-clipman-plugin for xfce4 |
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| 01:45.09 | bucky | cr3_: apt-cache show wmcliphist |
| 01:45.35 | bucky | window maker |
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| 01:46.09 | bucky | apt-cache show xclip |
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| 01:46.31 | cr3_ | each window manager seems to have its own clipboard implementation, I wonder if that's really waranted or if there could just be a generic X clipboard application that works on all window managers. |
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| 01:48.47 | moomintroll | huhlig?, anybody? : the following output from 'df' just has to be wrong : |
| 01:48.48 | moomintroll | Filesystem 1K-blocks Used Available Use% Mounted on |
| 01:48.49 | moomintroll | tmpfs 258304 0 258304 0% /dev/shm |
| 01:48.49 | moomintroll | tmpfs 10240 808 9432 8% /dev |
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| 01:49.15 | cr3_ | xclip doesn't have a history like klipper, but it's very interesting though. |
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| 01:49.58 | tjobo | What do i have to do when i try to start fluxbox, and get this "error" - "Can not connect to X server." ? what do i have to install? |
| 01:50.41 | Azar | tjobo first state what distro/kernel version, if you just installed it, and so on |
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| 01:51.09 | Azar | ...anything related to your problem |
| 01:51.16 | ryanium | is there a debian audio control so i can adjust the volume bass & treble? |
| 01:51.16 | frbn | tjobo, you should not start fluxbox yourself, startx does. (edit your ~/.xinitrc) |
| 01:51.27 | swatikiss | everytie i boot my laptop it complains that the last mount was in the future, so i run fsck and it fixes the problem, and i get the same error when i reboot. what is going on here? |
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| 01:51.56 | tjobo | hmm |
| 01:51.56 | Azar | wow time machine |
| 01:52.07 | tjobo | not sure Azar ;P |
| 01:52.12 | tjobo | Debian |
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| 01:52.22 | Perseid | Hi all. I have 3 different NTFS partitions I'm trying to mount at startup. One of them does so correctly, but I have to mount the other two manually and only root can do so. The three lines in /etc/fstab are exactly the same, so I'm confused. |
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| 01:52.32 | frbn | swatikiss, your hardware clock does not keep the date between reboots |
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| 01:52.46 | Azar | tjobo: like frbn said, you need to be in "user" and startx first before trying to get to fluxbox |
| 01:52.49 | jetscreamer | !ro-ntfs |
| 01:52.50 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 01:53.00 | tjobo | oh not root? |
| 01:53.01 | worthy | how do i make a password for my nic |
| 01:53.09 | swatikiss | frbn, ok, how can i fix this? |
| 01:53.11 | Azar | tjobo, no for security sake |
| 01:53.19 | tjobo | ok ;D |
| 01:53.24 | ryanium | is there a debian audio control so i can adjust the volume bass & treble? |
| 01:53.31 | tjobo | ill try that then ;D brb:) |
| 01:53.36 | yennyKa | Hello to all! it wanted to know if some of you has formed KERBEROS in debian? |
| 01:53.50 | yennyKa | :) |
| 01:53.56 | Azar | ryanium if you have alsa use alsamixer command |
| 01:54.03 | user12 | hello everyone |
| 01:54.05 | Perseid | Ok, I'll try that. Do I have to do anything to the rights of /mnt/<name> itself? |
| 01:54.26 | jetscreamer | i do, not sure if it helps but seems to |
| 01:54.33 | ryanium | Azar, wow i just realized i dont know hwat kind of sound card this laptop has! |
| 01:54.41 | frbn | swatikiss, hardware clock updater... don't know which one. |
| 01:54.59 | Azar | ryanium: type lspci and look for media line |
| 01:55.00 | worthy | I need to make a password for my gaim irc account. how do i do this? |
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| 01:55.55 | tjobo | Azar, im getting this now.. "Make sure u started X before u start fluxbox" ;/ |
| 01:55.55 | ryanium | 0000:00:08.0 Multimedia audio controller: ESS Technology ES1983S Maestro-3i PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 10) |
| 01:55.55 | tjobo | X = Multi-gnome-terminal ? |
| 01:55.55 | Azar | tjobo, thank to frbn, he got the hint |
| 01:56.02 | Azar | tjobo, dunno I never used gnome or kde, just plain openbox |
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| 01:56.42 | bucky | Azar: do you know mwilson? |
| 01:56.43 | Azar | ryanium: it seems an ESS Solo |
| 01:56.46 | tjobo | hmmz.. k :) but! do u think it would help if i re-install debian, and choose "Desktop enviroment" ? |
| 01:56.52 | Azar | bucky, personally, no |
| 01:57.01 | jetscreamer | tjobo: NOOOOO |
| 01:57.06 | tjobo | jetscreamer ? :P |
| 01:57.16 | ryanium | Azar, i know it works because i hear music etc on webpages. just need some kind of control to turn it up etc. |
| 01:57.34 | tjobo | jetscreamer , and why not ? :P |
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| 01:57.38 | jetscreamer | tjobo: besides you can just run tasksel which is what you were talking about |
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| 01:58.03 | Azar | ryanium: I configure sound with alsa.. |
| 01:58.11 | tjobo | well.. what i realy want.. is to get some desktop stuff on this debian :P |
| 01:58.34 | jetscreamer | apt-get install x-window-system ? |
| 01:58.40 | tjobo | oh |
| 01:58.42 | tjobo | ok thnx :D |
| 01:58.46 | frbn | tjobo, install fluxbox |
| 01:58.48 | Azar | tjobo, I used "feh" to put a background picture on my desktop and I am only using openbox, is cool and light |
| 01:58.56 | jetscreamer | apt-get install x-window-system fluxbox |
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| 01:59.10 | tjobo | frbn i did.. but i needed "X" ? :P |
| 01:59.19 | tjobo | Azar nice ;D |
| 01:59.20 | jetscreamer | flux is cool. |
| 01:59.23 | tjobo | brb ^^ |
| 01:59.32 | Azar | yep flux too |
| 01:59.37 | Eleckt-OCUPADO | enlitgmen is the best |
| 01:59.48 | frbn | tjobo, X should have been installed (depend) |
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| 02:01.04 | liable | !start a wm war |
| 02:01.04 | dpkg | fvwm95 makes me vomit! |
| 02:01.20 | Azar | :) |
| 02:02.11 | odla | icewm rulez |
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| 02:02.46 | Azar | well I have no idea about the others but my openbox goes nice with the background picture |
| 02:03.01 | cr3_ | tjobo: I discovered ratpoison recently, a wm that feels like screen. I like it a lot because I don't need to use the mouse and it feels familiar. |
| 02:03.07 | Perseid | Still no dice on the auto-mount. As before, one drive mounts, other two do not. |
| 02:03.46 | cr3_ | when running xhost +, I get: xhost: unable to open display "" |
| 02:04.02 | frbn | cr3_, export your DISPLAY |
| 02:04.24 | cr3_ | frbn: I tried to export DISPLAY=127.0.0.1:0 and I get: Error: Can't open display: 127.0.0.1:0 |
| 02:04.47 | frbn | cr3_, export DISPLAY=:0 is anough |
| 02:04.50 | Laibsch | Today I switched out the Intel 440bx based mobo with a PIII@450MHz from my LAN server and replaced it with an ASUS P6SEP-Me running a Cyrix III 600MHZ CPU. Now Linux fails to boot from the HD (Knoppix and Win98 work). It hangs right at the start after the lilo prompt. There are only three lines: "boot" "Loading Linux" "Bios data check successful" Anybody have an idea what could be failing? |
| 02:05.51 | Azar | Laibsch: maybe you need to reinstall or use rescue CD? |
| 02:05.58 | zyros | does anyone here have nicotine or pysoulseek on debian? |
| 02:06.19 | Azar | same old kernel will not work with a new CPU ( well new not, but "other type") |
| 02:06.53 | Laibsch | Azar: I do not want to reinstall and loose the config. What do you suggest to do with the CD? As I said I can boot Knoppix fine. |
| 02:06.59 | zyros | . |
| 02:07.10 | frbn | Laibsch, try to boot on a debian generic kernel |
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| 02:07.43 | Azar | Laibsch: the way I learned, there are kernels for some architectures and different ones for another architecture |
| 02:08.09 | Azar | Laibsch: you will see that when you will go apt-cache search kernel-images |
| 02:08.23 | plugwash | anyone know what package has the man page for ulimit? |
| 02:08.39 | Laibsch | frbn: OK, sounds like a good idea. I will get the old mobo back in and instsall a stock kernel. |
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| 02:08.46 | Azar | Laibsch: if I were you Id have backed up all stuff before changing CPUs, then reinstall |
| 02:09.18 | plugwash | that REALLY shouldn't be nessacery |
| 02:09.21 | Laibsch | Azar: I am Linux among other things because I do not have to constantly reboot and reinstall. |
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| 02:09.32 | Laibsch | Azar: I am on Linux among other things because I do not have to constantly reboot and reinstall. |
| 02:09.34 | buu | Laibsch: PSsh, that's what *you* think |
| 02:09.40 | bucky | plugwash: dpkg -S /usr/share/man/man3/ulimit.3.gz manpages-dev |
| 02:09.54 | plugwash | Laibsch can't you boot the linux install on the hard drive using the kernel on the knoppix cd |
| 02:09.57 | Azar | Laibsch: then you should respect the rules otherwise you end up with stuff like that |
| 02:10.04 | Laibsch | buu: you constantly reboot and reinstall? |
| 02:10.36 | Azar | Laibsch: when you are a newbie and do not read/learn/apply the rules yes, you reboot |
| 02:10.37 | plugwash | Laibsch what version of debian is this? |
| 02:10.41 | bucky | !win bucky |
| 02:10.41 | dpkg | Congratulations, bucky! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 02:10.42 | Laibsch | plugwash: how? |
| 02:11.06 | Laibsch | plugwash: testing |
| 02:11.10 | plugwash | actually thinking about it knoppix is a poor CD to use |
| 02:11.45 | plugwash | do you have any debian install cds handy? if so boot the machine off one and try rescue root=/dev/whatever |
| 02:11.55 | plugwash | replacing whatever with your root partition |
| 02:12.26 | Laibsch | OK, that sound like the best solution. I can get and burn an install CD |
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| 02:12.48 | Laibsch | plugwash: thanks a lot |
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| 02:13.14 | frbn | Laibsch, boot on the knoppix, mount your disk, copy /boot/vmlinux and its modules (/lib/modules/#version#/) , chroot on it , edit /etc/lilo.conf, rerun lilo, exit and reboot on the hdd. |
| 02:13.55 | frbn | Laibsch, and don't forget to mount /proc inthe chroot. |
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| 02:14.48 | zyros | what does that mean when your installing debian and during the partiotner there is little "bad faces" instead of the smiley faces ? |
| 02:14.56 | Laibsch | frbn: sort of like the stuff here: http://www.underhanded.org/papers/debian-conversion/remotedeb.html Good idea, too. Thank you. |
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| 02:15.39 | jetscreamer | heh |
| 02:15.46 | jetscreamer | that chroot doesn't always work i found |
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| 02:15.52 | jetscreamer | for running lilo |
| 02:16.05 | Laibsch | I have used it in the past successfully |
| 02:16.08 | frbn | jetscreamer, mounted /proc ? |
| 02:16.09 | jetscreamer | me too |
| 02:16.13 | Laibsch | so far no problems while I did that |
| 02:16.23 | jetscreamer | i forget, i didn't know what i was doing.. but yeah i think so |
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| 02:16.36 | [sivox] | How would i upgrade from Knoppix to Debian? |
| 02:16.41 | frbn | jetscreamer, you can pass a parameter to lilo too (conf file and boot device) |
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| 02:16.59 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: best way is clean install |
| 02:17.11 | ateijelo | Hi all |
| 02:17.22 | [sivox] | yeh, but i can't get the debian iso to detect my ethernet card.. ;\ |
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| 02:17.44 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: you 'could' try a beta of the new installer |
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| 02:17.55 | odla | [sivox]: ask #knoppix folks...i know there is also information on the knoppix cd as to how to do this |
| 02:18.24 | frbn | [sivox], find what version it was based on and try a dist-upgrade to this debian version. I did it 1 time it's a real pain. |
| 02:18.28 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: there are also howto's on debian.lorg about doing thins |
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| 02:18.44 | [sivox] | were could i get the beta new installer? |
| 02:19.05 | rixth | I'm looking for a text editor similar to http://macromates.com I don't want vim. Can anyone suggest an application? |
| 02:19.06 | [sivox] | i rather just do a clean install, as i'm not real good with linux yet.. |
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| 02:19.15 | jetscreamer | !di |
| 02:19.16 | dpkg | http://linuxmafia.com/faq/Debian/installers.html |
| 02:19.29 | jetscreamer | http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 02:20.04 | [sivox] | should i get the netinst or the full debian disk set? |
| 02:20.11 | [sivox] | ;\ |
| 02:20.14 | ateijelo | My Qt 4.1 designer has no icons in the toolbar nor form templates nor widgets in the Widget Box. Has anyone a similar problem? |
| 02:20.17 | jetscreamer | netinst if the nic works :) |
| 02:20.26 | jetscreamer | if it doesn't, full ? |
| 02:20.26 | [sivox] | as i'm having trouble with the nic :( |
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| 02:20.34 | [sivox] | aight |
| 02:20.38 | jlmb | [sivox]: ditto jetscreamer |
| 02:20.40 | Azar | [sivox]: do the base only then apt will take care to install the rest |
| 02:20.56 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: there should be a list of supported hw somewhere |
| 02:21.09 | jlmb | [sivox]: what nic you have? |
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| 02:21.44 | [sivox] | Realtek |
| 02:21.56 | [sivox] | yes, but none of them works.. |
| 02:22.04 | jetscreamer | lspci | grep -i realtek |
| 02:22.12 | jetscreamer | the chipset is needed |
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| 02:22.28 | Azar | generic is D-Link |
| 02:22.28 | [sivox] | well, for my realtek to work, on windows that is i have to have the Nvidia network drivers |
| 02:22.35 | jetscreamer | http://scyld.com/network.html |
| 02:22.39 | jetscreamer | no idea |
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| 02:22.52 | pipeline | [sivox]: The "netinst" isn't what it sounds like |
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| 02:23.04 | pipeline | [sivox]: It doesn't actually require you to be on the internet to get a working system. |
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| 02:23.32 | [sivox] | i know, but for the netinst disks i do have to be on the net... umm |
| 02:23.38 | [sivox] | after i try the netinst he gave me |
| 02:23.43 | [sivox] | i'll try the full disk set |
| 02:23.43 | [sivox] | :) |
| 02:24.03 | _matej | rixth: canonical answer is emacs (which I don't like), but I prefer kate (it looks quite similar to the editor on that webpage) |
| 02:24.06 | [sivox] | and, i don't want to have to choose another distro, bcuz i like debian. |
| 02:24.31 | jetscreamer | two things i found about etch beta installer: if it can't find installer modules, verify the cd |
| 02:24.38 | jetscreamer | but that was a few builds ago |
| 02:25.09 | [sivox] | hopefully it will find it |
| 02:25.11 | [sivox] | :) |
| 02:25.29 | rixth | _matej, is kate QT though? |
| 02:25.29 | [sivox] | may have to take, 'linux26' but it should |
| 02:25.30 | Azar | [sivox]: http://blog.litux.org/category/hobbies/debian/ |
| 02:25.32 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: it's just an option in the menu, you run it |
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| 02:25.56 | jetscreamer | [sivox]: that has changed, it's now linux or expert, and linux24 or expert24 |
| 02:25.59 | DragonD | Hello, I have proftpd installed and there is a pause when connecting. why? |
| 02:26.01 | jetscreamer | before the default was 2.4 |
| 02:26.01 | _matej | rixth: yes, it is KDE -- and so what? |
| 02:26.04 | Azar | [sivox]: if you got a Realtek nic, better start with 2.4 kernel, 2.6 might not see it |
| 02:26.36 | jetscreamer | hit f2 though when it boots |
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| 02:26.44 | jetscreamer | and f3,f4,f5... |
| 02:26.45 | [sivox] | ok |
| 02:26.48 | [sivox] | ? |
| 02:26.51 | Azar | jetscreamer: there was a bug with Realtek in the 2.6 installation dunno if they fixed it |
| 02:27.08 | Azar | [sivox]: you can easily upgrade the kernel to 2.6 later |
| 02:27.09 | rixth | _matej, I run Gnome, I'll have to see how it will fit in. |
| 02:27.18 | rixth | It looks promising though |
| 02:27.28 | ateijelo | Is there anybody here with qt 4.1 development tools packages installed? |
| 02:27.31 | [sivox] | how do i install 2.4 ? |
| 02:27.34 | _matej | I am quite sure, there is some good GNOME texteditor too. |
| 02:27.46 | jetscreamer | i like gedit |
| 02:27.47 | Azar | [sivox]: is the default kernel on Debian installation |
| 02:27.56 | jetscreamer | Azar: not anymore |
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| 02:28.02 | [sivox] | oh |
| 02:28.04 | jetscreamer | 2.6 is the default in the beta |
| 02:28.08 | Azar | wow things are moving fast |
| 02:28.12 | robertbb | Trying to find which package (Sarge) provides libstdc++.so.5, the documentation says dpkg -S should list packages that provide it, but all that command does is list files already installed (libstdc++.so.6 - a newer version). Any suggestions? |
| 02:28.23 | jetscreamer | so hit F2,3,4... |
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| 02:28.32 | Azar | [sivox]: why don't you use the classic installer? |
| 02:28.35 | cr3 | if anyone here has used xclip, I don't quite understand what it does when running as a daemon (when invoked without arguments for example). |
| 02:28.48 | jetscreamer | \o/ |
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| 02:28.54 | tjobo | This was better:D |
| 02:28.55 | jetscreamer | !congratulate frbn |
| 02:28.55 | dpkg | Good show frbn, you did it! |
| 02:28.59 | [sivox] | dude idk... i just now started linux... |
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| 02:29.15 | [sivox] | well |
| 02:29.18 | [sivox] | not just now |
| 02:29.22 | Azar | [sivox]: why don't you take some time and read the manuals? |
| 02:29.22 | [sivox] | but a few weeks ago |
| 02:29.23 | frbn | thanks all. I really appreciate the help you all gave to me. |
| 02:29.39 | Azar | frbn, congrats :) |
| 02:30.10 | [sivox] | bcuz, i'm just not that type of person, i like to experiment with things.. |
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| 02:30.21 | nrdb | Hi, I have just done an update, the program cdda2wav is reporting the error "Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl" how can I make this work again? |
| 02:30.33 | Azar | [sivox]: reading = knowledge = power |
| 02:30.44 | [sivox] | true |
| 02:30.50 | [sivox] | i have been reading :D |
| 02:31.01 | [sivox] | i just came here |
| 02:31.03 | [sivox] | bcuz i got a lil stufk |
| 02:31.05 | [sivox] | stuck* |
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| 02:31.47 | Azar | Shadowcat: I will get there too someday |
| 02:32.15 | _matej | robertbb: dpkg -S /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.5 (you have to givev full path) |
| 02:32.42 | robertbb | _matej, Hmm. How do I know the full path if that particular file isn't install? |
| 02:32.45 | zyros | how do you make it install every package during installation? |
| 02:32.56 | robertbb | The aim is just to find which package provides that particular file.. |
| 02:33.44 | _matej | apt-get (or aptitude) install apt-file, then (as root) apt-file update, and (as normal user) apt-file search libstdc++.so.5 |
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| 02:34.36 | robertbb | _matej: Ahh, excellent. Thank you. Interesting this isn't a function of apt-cache :-) |
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| 02:35.24 | _matej | How do you make it that this message is makred as for me? |
| 02:35.38 | _matej | Otherwise, apt-cache works only on what's already installed |
| 02:36.02 | robertbb | apt-cache also searches through repositories to find packages.. |
| 02:36.04 | _matej | (I am real newbie on IRC) |
| 02:36.16 | nrdb | _materj: put the nickname in the text |
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| 02:36.23 | robertbb | _matej, I just type "_m" and hit tab.. it auto-completes in XChat |
| 02:36.28 | jetscreamer | zyros: huh? |
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| 02:36.45 | jetscreamer | !tell sianyde -about root |
| 02:36.49 | _matej | robertbb: But it doesn't have a list of all files in all packages (apt-cache that is) |
| 02:37.10 | robertbb | _matej, Wouldn't it have that following an apt-get update? |
| 02:37.17 | _matej | robertbb: thanks (kopete can do it too :-)) |
| 02:37.26 | robertbb | For all files in applicable repositories.. |
| 02:37.31 | jetscreamer | no |
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| 02:37.44 | worthy | im back |
| 02:37.59 | Shadowcat | quick everybody look busy, maybe worthy will go away |
| 02:38.20 | robertbb | Fair enough. The capability is there within apt-file. I guess there was a reason for this function not being included in apt-cache |
| 02:38.49 | jetscreamer | apt-listbugs rox |
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| 02:38.59 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: and you discover that now? |
| 02:39.02 | sianyde | can anybody help me with printing? |
| 02:39.07 | Shadowcat | !specific |
| 02:39.07 | dpkg | methinks specific is specifics is probably just saying 'it doesn't work' or 'what is wrong' will get you nowhere. be specific. |
| 02:39.13 | jetscreamer | no, but i'd thought i'd share cuz i haven't much |
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| 02:39.33 | Shadowcat | it's been in the bot for ages |
| 02:39.35 | Shadowcat | pay attention :P |
| 02:39.43 | sianyde | how can i print from debian? |
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| 02:39.58 | _matej | sianyde: no, I would like to go to bed and it is surely too far to your place. Can we tell you how to do it yourself? |
| 02:40.00 | jetscreamer | sianyde: linuxprinting.org for one |
| 02:40.09 | robertbb | bbs, need to reboot. Thanks _matej. :-) |
| 02:40.25 | jetscreamer | sianyde: cups is one option, for a printing system |
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| 02:40.36 | sianyde | i can't even seem to get lpr to work |
| 02:40.45 | Shadowcat | and jetscreamer just volunteered to give you a complete cups tutorial |
| 02:40.48 | jetscreamer | i know what you mean |
| 02:40.48 | Shadowcat | ;) |
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| 02:40.54 | _matej | sianyde: don't bother with lpr (cups is better) |
| 02:41.07 | jetscreamer | yes, with Shadowcat as the vanna white of tuts |
| 02:41.08 | multi_io | when I click the link on this page: file:///home/olaf/doc/mydocs/firefox1.5bug/test.html , a line break is inserted into it. I use Firefox 1.5/Debian. It does not happen in FF 1.0.7/Debian or FF1.5/Windows. Can anyone reproduce or not reproduce the problem? |
| 02:41.11 | _matej | sianyde: what's your environment (KDE or GNOME)? |
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| 02:41.16 | multi_io | ..sorry.. |
| 02:41.16 | sianyde | i'm having trouble apt-get install the cups |
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| 02:41.29 | sianyde | i'm just in the terminal, i'm mainly trying to get it to work with samba |
| 02:41.30 | Shadowcat | multi_io: wtf? |
| 02:41.30 | multi_io | here's the site: http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/firefox1.5bug/test.html |
| 02:41.30 | _matej | sianyde: what's the error message |
| 02:41.33 | jetscreamer | sianyde: you need to learn what to do before you install stuff willy-nilly |
| 02:41.36 | multi_io | sorry :) |
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| 02:42.05 | jetscreamer | sianyde: is the printer on a linux box or a windows box |
| 02:42.10 | sianyde | linux box |
| 02:42.27 | jetscreamer | sianyde: first thing is to find out if your printer is supported under linux |
| 02:42.41 | sianyde | it's an old hp laserjet 4l |
| 02:42.44 | sianyde | should be compat |
| 02:42.49 | jetscreamer | then it should be |
| 02:42.58 | Shadowcat | hah laserjet 4 |
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| 02:43.06 | sianyde | i'm mainly trying to get it to work under samba |
| 02:43.09 | Shadowcat | oh crap you need to install that HP junk |
| 02:43.13 | sianyde | but i can't even to get lpr to print out |
| 02:43.17 | jetscreamer | now you need to know what you need to know in order to install said printer, and decide which printing system you want to use |
| 02:43.22 | jetscreamer | hpoj rox |
| 02:43.30 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: not when you don't need it |
| 02:43.31 | jetscreamer | i have an officejet 600 :o |
| 02:43.37 | zyros | does anyone here have nicotine or pysoulseek on debian? |
| 02:43.46 | jetscreamer | but the roller needs cleaning badly |
| 02:43.52 | croddy | zyros: yes |
| 02:44.00 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: if you select desktop in tasksel, and add recommended packages, it pulls in all the hp crap whether you need it or not |
| 02:44.10 | jetscreamer | tasksel is evil |
| 02:44.11 | zyros | croddy, did you have any trouble getting the dependencies installed? |
| 02:44.17 | jetscreamer | !tasksel |
| 02:44.17 | croddy | zyros: no. it's in APT |
| 02:44.17 | dpkg | somebody said tasksel was the simple method of installation. simply run 'tasksel'. If it doesn't work, try updating Available packages by running 'dselect' and doing an Update, then quitting and trying tasksel again. If you don't want to use dselect, you can also 'apt-cache dumpavail > /var/lib/dpkg/available', to update the tasksel menu. Or forget all of that and just run "dselect update && tasksel", be happy, smile. |
| 02:44.17 | sianyde | which is the easiest way to print with samba then? |
| 02:44.20 | Shadowcat | jetscreamer: yes but MOST people use tasksel |
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| 02:44.26 | Shadowcat | I don't anymore |
| 02:44.42 | Shadowcat | but back when I did I always had to go out and manually deselect packages |
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| 02:44.54 | jetscreamer | sianyde: imo, cups and the hpoj... sianyde go to linux.hp.com or so and read up on it first |
| 02:45.03 | jetscreamer | the url may be different |
| 02:45.06 | zyros | croddy, do you have to ap-get all the dependencies or just apt-get nicotine ? |
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| 02:45.37 | Azar | ...o/t reading the news.. I sincerely hope Symantec will never reach his tentacles on linux distros.. I hate this company |
| 02:45.44 | croddy | zyros: i did 'apt-get install nicotine python-pyvorbis' |
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| 02:46.00 | zyros | ok |
| 02:46.02 | tjobo | How can i set a picture as background with X-Windows-System? :) or.. is that even possible ? ;D |
| 02:46.05 | Shadowcat | Azar: that means we should arrange it then |
| 02:46.07 | maelztrom | does sarge ship with the 'joystick' module in the kernel? |
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| 02:46.13 | Shadowcat | just to piss you off :P |
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| 02:46.17 | Azar | tjobo, download "feh" |
| 02:46.23 | Azar | err install it |
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| 02:46.48 | eegore | is there a repository that has k3b for etch? |
| 02:46.57 | tjobo | apt-get install feh ? :) |
| 02:47.05 | Azar | tjobo yes |
| 02:47.09 | tjobo | k thnx :D |
| 02:47.11 | tjobo | <3 |
| 02:47.14 | Fusionfox | Hello, how can i give permisions to write/read... to an user in a HDD? |
| 02:47.16 | Azar | and here is the site to read of: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/feh/ |
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| 02:47.52 | multi_io | tjobo: xsetbg |
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| 02:47.58 | sianyde | i'm trying to install apsfilter but i get erros in apt-get |
| 02:47.59 | vook | anyone know ? Is it possible to run a closed source i386 app under an AMD64 kernel, or will I have to boot into a i386 kernel? |
| 02:48.09 | sianyde | "files list file for package `bzip2' is missing final newline |
| 02:48.21 | multi_io | or the tool of your desktop environment, to make it permanent :) |
| 02:48.42 | multi_io | when I click the link on this page: http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/firefox1.5bug/test.html , a line break is inserted into it. I use Firefox 1.5/Debian. It does not happen in FF 1.0.7/Debian or FF1.5/Windows. Can anyone reproduce or not reproduce the problem? |
| 02:48.51 | Shadowcat | !tell multi_io about repeat |
| 02:48.58 | Shadowcat | we freaking heard you the first time |
| 02:48.59 | Shadowcat | sheesh |
| 02:49.01 | plugwash | vook amd64 kernel yes |
| 02:49.11 | Azar | tjobo, you will need to create a directory on your user account, say "images" then download some images you want for background and store them in /home/yourusername/images |
| 02:49.12 | multi_io | I made a mistake the 1st time |
| 02:49.14 | plugwash | you may have shared lib related issues though |
| 02:49.23 | multi_io | I' sorry already |
| 02:49.45 | vook | plugwash, I'm trying to install Opera, but it's only available (as far as I can tell) as an i386 binary. dpkg won't let me install it. |
| 02:49.53 | Fusionfox | how can i modify a HDD content without being root? |
| 02:49.59 | plugwash | vook can't you get a non-package version |
| 02:50.09 | plugwash | e.g. a plain binary tarball or whatever |
| 02:50.32 | vook | plugwash, yeah, I can get the slack version, or otherwise extract from the deb, just asking if it will work if I do so. |
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| 02:50.48 | Azar | Shadowcat: :D |
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| 02:51.35 | plugwash | it should run if all the required shared libs are there |
| 02:51.43 | Azar | vook: take an axe, split dpkg and force any stuff you need in it: then watch it rock |
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| 02:52.37 | plugwash | vook you will probablly also wan't ia32-libs if you don't already have it |
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| 02:53.05 | plugwash | for any libs it needs beyond that you'll probablly have to install them by non-dpkg means |
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| 02:53.33 | vook | ok, thanks. firefox keeps crashing, for shame. |
| 02:53.43 | plugwash | anyone got any clue when we will get packages.debian.org back? |
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| 02:54.27 | tjobo | Azar, done with installing Feh :) |
| 02:54.37 | tjobo | should i just start feh now ? ;D |
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| 02:56.15 | Azar | tjobo: not yet, did you create a new directory for "images" in your user home? |
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| 02:56.51 | Azar | tjobo ? |
| 02:56.52 | gentgeen__ | I just deleted my /usr/share/doc directory (instead of /opt/ZipSlack/usr/share/doc) -- is there anyway to get it all back? apt-get install I_am_a_moron maybe :-) |
| 02:57.15 | tjobo | gimmeh a sec ;) and ill make that dir :) |
| 02:57.46 | nrdb | The program cdda2wav is reporting the error "Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl" how can I make this work again? |
| 02:58.00 | tjobo | ok done :)= |
| 02:58.03 | Azar | tjobo so say you download images to /home/yourusername/images << that will be the path used with feh |
| 02:58.06 | fiete | Hi! Which startup-script would you recommend for setting the cpu scaling-governor and so on? |
| 02:58.21 | Azar | tjobo download one, or some images and put them there |
| 02:58.24 | jetscreamer | nrdb: did you try http://www.google.com/linux?q=Cannot+send+SCSI+cmd+via+ioctl&restrict=linux ? |
| 02:58.31 | tjobo | ok |
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| 02:58.49 | eegore | ok, now I need a version of k3b for etch and nothing comes up, anyone have a suggestion as to suitable source? |
| 02:58.50 | jetscreamer | cdrecord: Operation not permitted. Cannot send SCSI cmd via ioctl. This might be |
| 02:58.50 | jetscreamer | because cdrecord has not been installed with the setuid flag set, ... |
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| 02:59.01 | jetscreamer | ^^ 1 possiblility |
| 02:59.21 | jetscreamer | nrdb: if you have k3b try k3bsetup script |
| 03:00.10 | jetscreamer | or maybe your sg module(s) aren't getting loaded |
| 03:00.12 | tjobo | Done Azar :) |
| 03:00.16 | Azar | tjobo: so if you downloaded an image and have it in /home/yourusername move it in /images: mv "image.jpg" images |
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| 03:00.42 | tjobo | its in the images folder now ;) |
| 03:01.11 | jetscreamer | gentgeen__: heh/ugh/omg/idontknow try apt-get -f install maybe noidea |
| 03:01.13 | Azar | tjobo: when you have stored the image in the /images directory do this: feh --bg-scale /home/yourusername/images/picture.jpg ( where picture is name of the .jpg file) |
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| 03:02.18 | Perseid | Hi. I still can't get two of my 3 ntfs drives to auto-mount. One does, two do not. They can be mounted manuall by root and they have the exact same settings in /etc/fstab. Any ideas? |
| 03:03.05 | Azar | tjobo are you in user and with x started? |
| 03:03.25 | tjobo | Azar yeah=) |
| 03:03.33 | Azar | tjobo so it worked? |
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| 03:03.37 | tjobo | yeah :D |
| 03:03.43 | tjobo | thnx alot ;D |
| 03:03.45 | Azar | tjobo you need one more thing: |
| 03:03.51 | tjobo | my debian looks much greater now ;) |
| 03:03.57 | tjobo | what ? :) |
| 03:04.02 | Azar | to set it up to autoload when you startx next time |
| 03:04.04 | Azar | so |
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| 03:04.22 | Azar | tjobo, in an xterm, type su and enter root password |
| 03:04.23 | tjobo | ah |
| 03:04.45 | Azar | tjobo: then go to cd /etc/X11 |
| 03:04.47 | zyros | how do you find out the PCI exact number for my PCI 9600 radeon 256mb |
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| 03:05.03 | Azar | tjobo: use an editor and open Xsession with it |
| 03:05.07 | liable | zyros: configuring x? |
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| 03:05.15 | zyros | liable, yeah |
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| 03:05.23 | nrdb | jetscreamer: the program mp3c works if run as root, so it must be a permissions thing. |
| 03:05.40 | Azar | tjobo: then look for the line USERXSESSION=$HOME/.xsession |
| 03:05.58 | tjobo | hmm |
| 03:06.08 | tjobo | nothing did happend when i typed "su" ? |
| 03:06.12 | liable | zyros: if its your only card leave it blank (x86 box?) |
| 03:06.18 | Azar | tjobo: at the end of that line add : eval `cat $HOME/.fehbg` |
| 03:06.31 | Azar | tjobo: save the file and return to user mode |
| 03:06.42 | zyros | liable, yes |
| 03:07.01 | liable | leave it blank then it will be filled in automagically |
| 03:07.02 | Azar | ah |
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| 03:07.09 | Azar | you did not installed sudo |
| 03:07.20 | tjobo | sudo ? :P nope ;P |
| 03:07.21 | Azar | bah |
| 03:07.24 | tjobo | haha |
| 03:07.35 | Azar | tjobo: write all that down for later |
| 03:07.37 | liable | wtf has sudo got to do with su? |
| 03:07.49 | Azar | liable "su" command does not work for him? |
| 03:07.53 | tjobo | Azar, ok =) |
| 03:08.16 | tjobo | isnt it possible to copy / paste this shit ? :P irssi btw |
| 03:08.21 | Azar | heck if you can't su from an xterm |
| 03:08.24 | tvn | use xchat |
| 03:08.28 | liable | no |
| 03:08.34 | tjobo | tvn ill do that ,9 |
| 03:08.35 | tjobo | ;) |
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| 03:08.48 | liable | tjobo: of course you can copy and paste from irssi. |
| 03:08.53 | tvn | use whatever that's convenient for you |
| 03:08.54 | tvn | :P |
| 03:08.58 | Azar | bah learn Debian and then Ill be able to show you small stuff |
| 03:09.00 | tjobo | liable how ? :P |
| 03:09.10 | liable | tjobo: you in x or what? |
| 03:09.15 | tjobo | yeah =) |
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| 03:09.32 | liable | just select and right click then.. |
| 03:10.15 | tjobo | no way :P |
| 03:10.18 | tjobo | its not working for me ;/ |
| 03:10.30 | Perseid | Once I make directories to be mount-points, doI have to do anything special to them? |
| 03:10.41 | liable | Perseid: no |
| 03:10.51 | Azar | tjobo: keep this link handy: http://linuxbrit.co.uk/feh/wiki/FehFeatures |
| 03:11.19 | tjobo | ok thnx :D im writing it down now;) |
| 03:11.20 | Azar | also there is man feh, and google feh :) |
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| 03:12.35 | Perseid | Is there a way to test whether drives auto-mount besides rebooting? |
| 03:12.52 | liable | Perseid: mount -a |
| 03:13.02 | liable | Perseid: should do it. |
| 03:13.16 | Perseid | Well, see, if I do that, the drives do all mount, even though they don't mount on bootup. |
| 03:13.29 | worthy | can someone tell me how to put enlightenment in my sessions menu at the graphical greeter please? |
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| 03:14.06 | grendal_prime | i had to build a windows box tonight |
| 03:14.14 | grendal_prime | i hate this shit |
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| 03:15.01 | grendal_prime | im refusing to actually look at the machine..i put the base install on and put it in the garage....im finishing it via vnc |
| 03:15.02 | grendal_prime | hehehe |
| 03:15.42 | worthy | can someone tell me how to put enlightenment in my sessions menu at the graphical greeter please? |
| 03:15.43 | liable | hah |
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| 03:16.27 | grendal_prime | worthy...i think if you do that with aptitude..or apt it puts it in there for ya |
| 03:16.42 | grendal_prime | what session manager are you using? |
| 03:17.07 | worthy | gdm |
| 03:17.30 | worthy | oh |
| 03:17.31 | worthy | kde |
| 03:17.34 | worthy | im using kde |
| 03:17.48 | worthy | i want to be able to pick enlightenment out of the list |
| 03:17.54 | snowgoose | liable |
| 03:18.38 | liable | what? |
| 03:19.11 | snowgoose | got eror |
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| 03:19.33 | snowgoose | query i put it there |
| 03:20.48 | liable | i dont know anything about clamav, i still dont understand what your attraction to it is. |
| 03:21.00 | liable | jesus christ.. |
| 03:21.12 | zinx | mischan? |
| 03:21.25 | zinx | oh, evil messaging going on |
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| 03:23.27 | nrdb | jetscreamer: I set the SUID bit it is going now thanks for the pointer. |
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| 03:25.16 | tjobo | Xchat on my screeeen ;) |
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| 03:28.28 | liable | *shudder* udev upgrade, lets see what it breaks. |
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| 03:30.12 | Perseid | Wow, This is getting really irritating. This should be working. One more try: I have 3 NTFS partitions. One mounts on bootup, the other two do not. If I mount -a, they all come up fine. The 3 lines in /etc/fstab are identical. |
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| 03:33.15 | liable | Perseid: paste it just for shits and giggles. |
| 03:33.21 | grendal_prime | i love clamav |
| 03:33.34 | grendal_prime | who was dinking with clamav? |
| 03:33.59 | liable | someone who doesnt need it at all. |
| 03:34.15 | Perseid | /dev/hda3 /mnt/fat1 vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=022 0 0 |
| 03:34.15 | Perseid | /dev/hdb1 /mnt/ntfs1 ntfs ro,user,auto,umask=022 0 0 |
| 03:34.15 | Perseid | /dev/hde1 /mnt/ntfs2 ntfs ro,user,auto,umask=022 0 0 |
| 03:34.15 | Perseid | /dev/hdf1 /mnt/ntfs3 ntfs ro,user,auto,umask=022 0 0 |
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| 03:34.31 | Perseid | Yeah. |
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| 03:34.43 | Perseid | That's it, minus the non-applicable lines. |
| 03:34.47 | liable | Perseid: erm, never paste shit in here, use a pastebot. |
| 03:35.12 | sys6x | hi, I just fixed again a utmp/wtmp corruption on my system, does someone knows what could cause this? |
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| 03:35.38 | Perseid | I didn't paste it. |
| 03:35.43 | Azar | ah ok |
| 03:35.52 | worthy | i want to be able to pick enlightenment out of the list |
| 03:35.52 | Azar | too many partitions for my newbiness then |
| 03:36.16 | worthy | oops |
| 03:36.41 | odla | Perseid: why do you have so many windows paritions? |
| 03:36.46 | worthy | i want to be able to pick enlightenment out of the list of sessions after it boots up - how do i put enlightenment in the sessions? please? |
| 03:36.55 | Perseid | Lots of hard drives. |
| 03:37.07 | odla | i see |
| 03:37.18 | odla | Perseid: and you want them to all auto mount? |
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| 03:37.30 | weenix | i got to print the reference book |
| 03:37.36 | opnsrc | where are some debian repositories that I can get firefox 1.5 from? |
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| 03:37.44 | odla | opnsrc: backports.org |
| 03:37.49 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 03:37.50 | Perseid | Yep. And /mnt/ntfs1 and /mnt/fat1 both do. ntfs2 and 3 don't, but do mount manually. |
| 03:37.51 | odla | opnsrc: are you running sarge? |
| 03:37.52 | opnsrc | do I just type backports.org |
| 03:37.56 | opnsrc | uhm... synaptic |
| 03:38.04 | odla | doh... |
| 03:38.10 | odla | are you running debian sarge? |
| 03:38.11 | liable | ... |
| 03:38.18 | Brian1111 | anyone know why ndiswrapper won't load up with modprobe? |
| 03:38.19 | odla | debian stable? |
| 03:38.22 | Brian1111 | it was loading before but it stopped |
| 03:38.25 | Perseid | Me? Unstable. |
| 03:38.33 | odla | Perseid: no...opnsrc |
| 03:38.33 | opnsrc | do I just put in http://backports.org |
| 03:38.46 | liable | in where? |
| 03:38.48 | odla | opnsrc: go to www.backports.org |
| 03:38.50 | opnsrc | Synaptic |
| 03:38.51 | Perseid | 'k. Heh. |
| 03:38.52 | odla | opnsrc: and read the instructions |
| 03:38.52 | Azar | :) he is in a such a hurry |
| 03:38.55 | odla | opnsrc: it's really easy |
| 03:38.55 | opnsrc | under repositories |
| 03:39.09 | odla | opnsrc: if you have more questions come back and i'll help..ok? |
| 03:39.34 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 03:39.41 | odla | opnsrc: http://www.backports.org/instructions.html |
| 03:39.46 | odla | opnsrc: no problme |
| 03:39.55 | opnsrc | Also I want to know how to add a my computer icon on my desktop |
| 03:40.08 | Azar | hahaha |
| 03:40.09 | odla | opnsrc: /home/opnsrc? |
| 03:40.21 | odla | opnsrc: or /? |
| 03:40.37 | Azar | I guess he thinks this is windows |
| 03:40.54 | Perseid | opnsrc: KDE? |
| 03:40.58 | odla | opnsrc: there really isn't a my computer icon for debian...you are running debian right or are you running ubuntu? |
| 03:41.27 | Azar | no solitaire? |
| 03:41.32 | odla | oh |
| 03:42.06 | odla | opnsrc: if you're using gnome or kde, you can drag an icon on to your desktop |
| 03:42.13 | Azar | odla no, I am reading about bash trying to get a base for bash scripting |
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| 03:42.29 | odla | opnsrc: if you're new to linux...i don't recommend trying out a different window manager until you're comfortable around debian |
| 03:42.38 | odla | opnsrc: use kde or gnome |
| 03:42.39 | opnsrc | Kde |
| 03:43.03 | opnsrc | It's Debian |
| 03:43.06 | Perseid | In KDE, you can right click the desktop, hit Create New, then Link to Device. This opens a list fo stuff you can add. |
| 03:43.08 | opnsrc | I want something that has all the drives in it |
| 03:43.33 | odla | hrm... |
| 03:43.48 | Azar | GXproc |
| 03:43.51 | Azar | install that |
| 03:43.55 | odla | if you use gnome your drives will magically appear when you put something into it |
| 03:44.01 | odla | i.e. automount |
| 03:44.08 | odla | kde doesn't have that feature in sarge's version |
| 03:44.22 | opnsrc | there is no GXproc |
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| 03:44.37 | Azar | GXproc looks not so nice but does the job apt-get install it |
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| 03:44.51 | odla | opnsrc: if you want a drive icon...why don't you make a shortcut to /media? |
| 03:45.14 | jetscreamer | damn no wonder nobody was typing |
| 03:45.33 | Perseid | In short, opensrc, I don't think you're going to get My Computer without making it yourself out of shortcuts. |
| 03:45.55 | odla | i use to use it a long time ago |
| 03:45.59 | opnsrc | hold up let me try |
| 03:46.29 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 03:47.04 | Perseid | That is a little disconcerting to be a Windows user and see nothing but a Trash on the KDE desktop. :) |
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| 03:47.36 | jetscreamer | show mounted/unmounted partitions is settable |
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| 03:48.19 | jetscreamer | iirc it's in control center somewhere, under konq settings for kde and nautilus settings for gnome.. but i forget. |
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| 03:48.48 | Perseid | Wow. It is. Configure Desktop/Behaviour/Device Icons |
| 03:49.21 | Perseid | I'm suck a noob. :P |
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| 03:49.29 | Perseid | *such |
| 03:49.30 | nrdb | is there anyone here using mp3c |
| 03:49.34 | buu | Hrm. What the fuck. /proc/scsi/scsi shows me 10 attached sata drives, but fdisk -l only lists up to /dev/sdh |
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| 03:50.09 | odla | Perseid: i think there's a trash can somewhere...gnome has one at least |
| 03:50.37 | Perseid | Yeah. my KDE had a Trash, but nothing else. |
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| 03:51.28 | odla | Perseid: i think the newer versions of kde are even more friendly |
| 03:51.35 | odla | Perseid: have you tried gnome? it's pretty user friendly |
| 03:51.53 | Azar | at the beginning it was disconcerting not see any menubars, taskbars and icons, now I got used with.. nothing |
| 03:52.12 | odla | Azar: what are you running for a wm? |
| 03:52.15 | Perseid | KDE seems fine. I just have to get used to it. |
| 03:52.22 | Azar | odla, pure and simple openbox |
| 03:52.33 | odla | i see |
| 03:52.51 | odla | Perseid: yeah stick it...you'll get use to kde...also #debian-kde can probably help you with kde questions |
| 03:52.56 | odla | if they're kde specific |
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| 03:53.23 | buu | Anyone know why I don't get a /dev/sdi? |
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| 03:53.34 | Edgardoweb | saludos |
| 03:53.40 | Perseid | So, could my auto-mount problem be something in the mount-point directories? Something I need to set but didn't, something I shouldn't have set but did. Something like that. |
| 03:53.40 | Edgardoweb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:53.49 | liable | buu: checked the kernel logs/dmesg? |
| 03:53.57 | buu | Doing that now.. |
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| 03:54.15 | odla | Perseid: i'm not sure |
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| 03:54.53 | Azar | odla: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/onix/screenshot.png |
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| 03:56.16 | Perseid | In terms of mounting, what's the difference between 'user' and 'users'? |
| 03:56.35 | Azar | odla that was old, this is a more recent one: http://www.geocities.com/spaceproxy/gkrellShoot_12-29-05_204053.jpg |
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| 03:57.05 | odla | says it's unavailable |
| 03:57.10 | charlie | hello |
| 03:57.18 | odla | Perseid: not sure i understand your question |
| 03:57.22 | odla | charlie: hi |
| 03:57.31 | Aprediz | no speak english |
| 03:57.38 | odla | Aprediz: what do you speak? |
| 03:57.45 | Aprediz | ware is brazil |
| 03:57.47 | charlie | can anyone help, i have debian installed, and when i try to start gnome it gives me an error and a blank screen (first time installing) |
| 03:57.52 | odla | !portuguese |
| 03:57.52 | dpkg | hmm... portuguese is the most beautiful idiom of the world, or #debian-br, or por favor use #debian-br para ajuda em portugues. |
| 03:58.32 | odla | charlie: how do you start gnome? |
| 03:58.42 | Aprediz | were modifi |
| 03:58.45 | Perseid | In mount's man page, it mentions user "Allows an ordinary user to mount the file sytem" and users "Allows every user to mount and unmount the file system" as if they're two different options, |
| 03:58.48 | charlie | well, when my sys boots up |
| 03:59.02 | Azar | !br |
| 03:59.03 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
| 03:59.10 | odla | Perseid: oh i see....i usually just put users |
| 03:59.21 | Aprediz | como mudo, pode ajudar-me. |
| 03:59.37 | liable | Aprediz: /j #debian-br |
| 03:59.44 | zinx | Perseid: they are different |
| 03:59.45 | Azar | Aprediz: escribe asi: /join #debian-br |
| 03:59.57 | zinx | Perseid: with 'user', only the user that mounted it can unmount; with 'users', anyone can unmount. |
| 04:00.11 | buu | liable: Not really, it goes to scsi9, then talks about /dev/sda-h |
| 04:00.27 | Perseid | Oh, ok. So in terms of auto-mount problems, it's not going to matter. |
| 04:00.27 | odla | charlie: do you get to a GUI? |
| 04:00.36 | liable | buu: are the cards all the same? |
| 04:00.38 | odla | charlie: or does it flicker before you get to a GUI? |
| 04:00.41 | charlie | no, it gives me a black screen an a error |
| 04:00.43 | buu | Oh, wait, that's interesting |
| 04:00.54 | odla | charlie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:00.55 | buu | "ata7 failed to respond" |
| 04:01.00 | odla | as root |
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| 04:01.07 | odla | charlie: you have a problem with X |
| 04:01.10 | charlie | k |
| 04:01.10 | odla | it sounds like |
| 04:01.34 | liable | charlie: how did you install gnome? |
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| 04:01.50 | odla | Azar: that second screenshot didn't come through? |
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| 04:02.09 | Azar | odla, probably too many requests, geocities is stingy with bandwidth |
| 04:02.54 | odla | Azar: it's sending me to Yahoo...unless geocities is yahoo? |
| 04:03.02 | Azar | yes is yahoo |
| 04:03.07 | charlie | i just got through installing debian with netinst, it comes with it right? |
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| 04:03.24 | shad0w1e | How do I get XFCE into apt ?? |
| 04:03.32 | charlie | odla: it said xserver-xfree86 wasn't installed ;\ |
| 04:03.48 | Azar | :) charlie you need to install x-server |
| 04:03.50 | odla | charlie: did you choose the desktop environment or nothing? |
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| 04:03.58 | liable | charlie: did you pick desktop-environment during install? |
| 04:04.00 | odla | charlie: are you install etch? |
| 04:04.12 | charlie | i chose webserver and desktop inviroment.. |
| 04:04.22 | odla | charlie: etch? |
| 04:04.28 | shad0w1e | how can I install XFCE? |
| 04:04.35 | odla | shad0w1e: apt-get install xfce4 |
| 04:04.35 | charlie | huh? |
| 04:04.40 | liable | shad0w1e: apt-cache search xfce |
| 04:04.48 | odla | charlie: the sarge version or the testing version? |
| 04:04.50 | Azar | charlie there are 3 Debians: Sarge(stable) Etch(testing) and Sid(unstable) |
| 04:04.59 | charlie | oh |
| 04:05.01 | odla | charlie: maybe you need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if you installed testing |
| 04:05.01 | charlie | testing.. |
| 04:05.08 | shad0w1e | odla, thanks! |
| 04:05.14 | odla | np |
| 04:05.19 | odla | charlie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:05.19 | charlie | i just tried that odla :\ |
| 04:05.29 | charlie | it said it wasn't installed.. |
| 04:05.35 | odla | no you tried xserver-xfree86 |
| 04:05.36 | Perseid | If umount -f still doesn't unmount a device, what can I do? |
| 04:05.37 | Azar | he is x-window-less |
| 04:05.41 | charlie | oh lol |
| 04:05.42 | charlie | sorry |
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| 04:05.50 | liable | charlie: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 04:05.58 | Azar | :) babylon |
| 04:06.14 | odla | charlie: stable comes with xfree86 and testing comes with xorg |
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| 04:06.40 | cr3 | when connecting with rdesktop to a windows xp box on the lan, my login attemps always fail for some reason. however, I'm sure the username and password are correct. |
| 04:06.47 | odla | charlie: if you still don't have it...do as liable says |
| 04:06.50 | multidex | can anyone provide me with libmp3lame.so? |
| 04:07.16 | odla | Azar: xorg is easier...grub is easy ;) |
| 04:07.23 | charlie | ok, i have it odla, what would i pick for my X serv driver, if i'm using an nvidia geforce 8600 ? |
| 04:07.25 | odla | oops not easier basically the same |
| 04:07.31 | Azar | odla, unfortunately I didn't went ok with grub |
| 04:08.02 | odla | charlie: i think you need to install an nvidia module or something...hold on i'll look |
| 04:08.12 | Azar | for me lilo is simpler, just open up, edit three strings , save , run and done |
| 04:08.40 | charlie | ok, but i have choices to pick from, after i typed dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:08.56 | jetscreamer | Azar: i held out for as long as possible, but all you really need to remember about grub is that hd0 is the one you booted from |
| 04:08.58 | liable | charlie: pick nv for now. |
| 04:08.59 | Azar | plus if I get lilo crash I know how to go by L or LI or LIL |
| 04:09.04 | charlie | ok, :) |
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| 04:09.22 | SteelRabbit | LINUX! |
| 04:09.26 | jetscreamer | well that's important at least |
| 04:09.29 | SteelRabbit | W00T |
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| 04:09.32 | Azar | jetscreamer, i had no idea how to edit/tweak it |
| 04:09.38 | odla | charlie: you'll probably need nvidia-glx to fully use your nvidia...but i'm not sure |
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| 04:09.47 | charlie | ok, i got it |
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| 04:10.20 | Azar | not even nvidia installation will look the same |
| 04:10.28 | jetscreamer | Azar: it was a pita for me to learn until i figured that one out, but grub floppies are really cool to use |
| 04:10.32 | charlie | ok odla, its asking how much memory from my video card i want to use in 'kb' how much do you recommend? |
| 04:10.33 | ootput | hi guys, does lsmod fail for anybody else on sarge? lsmod: QM_MODULES: Function not implemented. |
| 04:10.33 | shad0w1e | how do I find out all running services? My comp is running very slow and I want to minimize... |
| 04:10.49 | ootput | i used debootstrap rather than the cds |
| 04:10.49 | jetscreamer | charlie: leave it blank |
| 04:10.50 | liable | shad0w1e: ps aux |
| 04:10.56 | odla | charlie: i have no idea...i don't use an nvidia card...generally i'd leave it blank |
| 04:10.57 | shad0w1e | liable, thanx |
| 04:10.57 | Perseid | charlie: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/installation.html |
| 04:11.03 | charlie | ok |
| 04:11.12 | jetscreamer | it's autodetected like it says |
| 04:11.15 | charlie | i can't go to sites i'm on bitchX :( |
| 04:11.17 | Azar | jetscreamer the only thing that scares me at grub is when I hear : ohh grub is self updating you do not even need to bother.. |
| 04:11.20 | Perseid | I just did most of this stuff a few days ago, so it's fresh. :) |
| 04:11.41 | odla | charlie: no worries...if you screw something up in configure X you can always reconfigure it |
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| 04:11.57 | ootput | ah, seems i'm missing module-init-tools |
| 04:12.02 | liable | Azar: why does that scare you? you can still check the menu.lst |
| 04:12.07 | jetscreamer | you don't have to explicitly run grub like you do lilo after you make changes, it's like you have to compile lilo and grub is read at runtime |
| 04:12.07 | odla | ootput: apt-get install module-init-tools |
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| 04:12.38 | odla | jetscreamer: i figured out my icewm problem |
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| 04:12.47 | odla | jetscreamer: with sudoer |
| 04:12.47 | jetscreamer | cool |
| 04:12.53 | odla | jetscreamer: it was real easy |
| 04:13.00 | Azar | liable, because lilo gives me more confidence knowing what is going on there and knowing how to work with, I do not like self-auto-system-tools doing stuff whithout me knowing what is going on |
| 04:13.06 | odla | (= |
| 04:13.26 | odla | Azar: do you run gentoo? |
| 04:13.28 | Azar | how many newbies like me I have seen upgrading their kernels and grub sunk them? |
| 04:13.34 | odla | !gentoosmite Azar |
| 04:13.35 | Azar | olda no, never |
| 04:13.49 | ootput | odla: yeah |
| 04:13.57 | Azar | I never ran gentoo nor other, Debian for 3 years now |
| 04:14.13 | jetscreamer | i finally got the bootsplash syntax correct also |
| 04:14.19 | jetscreamer | for grub |
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| 04:14.40 | Azar | I have no idea what a bootsplash is |
| 04:14.40 | odla | i didn't even know you could get a bootsplash for debian |
| 04:14.50 | jetscreamer | pretty picture for menu |
| 04:14.53 | odla | jetscreamer: is it usplash? |
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| 04:15.09 | jetscreamer | yeh there is a lilo bootsplash also, and then there's a kernel bootsplash |
| 04:15.22 | Azar | picture or no picture, I could not fix a boot hang with grub |
| 04:15.23 | charlie | ok odla, after i have that done, should i just reboot? |
| 04:15.41 | jetscreamer | i made the lilo splash reversed in gimp |
| 04:15.43 | odla | charlie: no...type startx |
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| 04:15.53 | odla | charlie: and cross your fingers |
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| 04:16.21 | Azar | I installed my nvidia with the oneliner from here, easy as a breeze |
| 04:16.25 | charlie | it says 'fatel error, server is already active for display 0' |
| 04:16.31 | charlie | and doesn't start.. |
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| 04:16.50 | liable | charlie: hit alt+F7 |
| 04:16.51 | jetscreamer | http://xorg.freedesktop.org/releases/X11R7.0/doc/html/nv.4.html |
| 04:16.51 | Azar | charlie what kernel version you got? |
| 04:16.51 | odla | charlie: are you new to debian? |
| 04:17.08 | charlie | yeh, i'm new to debian.. i'm new to linux |
| 04:17.13 | bunghole | how stable is unstable? |
| 04:17.13 | charlie | i'm using 2.6 |
| 04:17.20 | Azar | charlie: new to debian + etch = harakiri |
| 04:17.27 | odla | charlie: why not install sarge = stable? |
| 04:17.31 | jetscreamer | bunghole: very stable, until it breaks, that is |
| 04:17.31 | bunghole | sarge is too old for my needs, is etch stable? |
| 04:17.36 | Azar | bunghole: very unstable |
| 04:17.43 | jetscreamer | bunghole: etch makes a good desktop imo |
| 04:17.48 | bunghole | ya'll better agree on one thing |
| 04:18.02 | jetscreamer | we do |
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| 04:18.05 | bunghole | I need an apache/ftp/nfs server as well as a desktop |
| 04:18.09 | charlie | odla, all i want to do is get to my desktop ;\ |
| 04:18.15 | jetscreamer | then run stable if it's a server |
| 04:18.17 | bunghole | sarge is too old imo |
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| 04:18.22 | Guerin | bunghole: why? |
| 04:18.23 | jetscreamer | then run etch |
| 04:18.27 | Azar | charlie, sarge has a desktop too |
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| 04:18.32 | Guerin | bunghole: need kde or gnome? |
| 04:18.35 | jetscreamer | yeah but it's an old desktop |
| 04:18.37 | bunghole | well, a lot of the software im used to is newer, sarge doesn't have those packages |
| 04:18.38 | liable | or ubuntu or some other derivative. |
| 04:18.40 | Azar | for me sarge is "very" new |
| 04:18.44 | bunghole | Guerin: xfce4.2 |
| 04:18.47 | Guerin | bunghole: it all works, though. |
| 04:18.50 | shad0w1e | my comp is running very slow. could someone have a look at my process table and see what I've got that's "extra" and can be removed? thanks http://cpp.sourceforge.net/?show=11579 |
| 04:18.52 | bunghole | sarge only contains xfce4.0 |
| 04:18.54 | charlie | odla, it says 'unable to play this video mode' odla |
| 04:18.56 | Guerin | bunghole: in sarge, has been for ages. |
| 04:18.58 | charlie | - odla |
| 04:18.59 | Guerin | huh |
| 04:18.59 | charlie | lol |
| 04:19.00 | Guerin | ? |
| 04:19.11 | christopher | I just switched from Debian to Kubuntu and I think I may switch back. Their community can't answer some simple newbie questions :( |
| 04:19.20 | Matt-H | shad0w1e: nothing there looks "extra" |
| 04:19.21 | Guerin | bunghole: oh, right you are |
| 04:19.22 | odla | charlie: i'm not sure |
| 04:19.26 | Azar | odla Etch is too much for you, install Sarge |
| 04:19.31 | charlie | :\ |
| 04:19.37 | odla | Azar: me? |
| 04:19.39 | charlie | i'll bbiab, i'm going to restart ok |
| 04:19.41 | bunghole | I tried ubuntu, but i don't understand it |
| 04:19.42 | moshii_ | anyone good with whiptail and/or shell scripting? |
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| 04:19.47 | Azar | odla sorry I ment charlie |
| 04:19.51 | Guerin | bunghole: nobody does. |
| 04:19.54 | odla | it won't make a difference |
| 04:20.01 | bunghole | I was running sarge until I saw xfce4.2 and I fell in love |
| 04:20.04 | odla | Azar: he should be installing debian sarge not etch |
| 04:20.06 | Guerin | bunghole: you're not supposed to understand it, only to use it, passively. |
| 04:20.13 | odla | bunghole: it's available via at bpo |
| 04:20.13 | Azar | odla, yes indeed |
| 04:20.14 | liable | heh |
| 04:20.21 | bunghole | i like customizing my own system |
| 04:20.29 | bunghole | oh one question |
| 04:20.33 | kspath | !ewe |
| 04:20.33 | dpkg | Guerin: baah. |
| 04:20.34 | odla | i was running gnome and then i feel in love with icewm |
| 04:20.38 | Azar | charlie: pay attention here: reinstall Debian stable: Sarge - Etch for you = no goodies |
| 04:20.39 | worthy | i just upgraded my kernal to 2.6.8 - im trying to reinstall my vmware and i keep getting this: What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running |
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| 04:20.39 | worthy | kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] - where are my C header files now? |
| 04:20.44 | clearscreen | ;o |
| 04:20.50 | odla | worthy: you have to install kernel headers |
| 04:20.58 | psychonate | odla, icewm :) |
| 04:21.08 | worthy | how |
| 04:21.08 | odla | worthy: apt-cache search kernel headers |
| 04:21.11 | psychonate | odla, I use rox pinboard with it though |
| 04:21.21 | worthy | ok |
| 04:21.31 | bunghole | I installed the nvidiafb(framebuffer) module. now the console looks fantastic, but nvidia(gfx driver) module won't work/x wont' start. i tried to remove nvidiafb but it says can't remove cuz its in use. even if i reboot now it will go back to the fb driver, how do i make it unload |
| 04:21.32 | odla | worthy: and choose the one that mathces your kernel |
| 04:21.46 | odla | psychonate: i love icewm...i use idesk and emelfm with it |
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| 04:21.53 | odla | emelfm is so sweet and old school |
| 04:21.57 | odla | and kinda ugly |
| 04:22.05 | psychonate | odla, ah, I'm familiar with idesk somewhat, but I don't know what emelfm is |
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| 04:22.11 | psychonate | oh, fm=file manager |
| 04:22.13 | psychonate | I see heh |
| 04:22.29 | odla | psychonate: it's cool because it has a built in terminal |
| 04:22.30 | Perseid | So if I make a new mountpoint directory, I dn't have to chmod it oranything? Just make it as root and use it? |
| 04:22.58 | odla | Perseid: you'll need to give yourself permissions |
| 04:23.07 | odla | Perseid: or make yourself owner with chown |
| 04:23.09 | psychonate | odla, mmm, I'm sorta partial to my transparent Eterm + screen |
| 04:23.12 | Azar | :) |
| 04:23.16 | Guerin | Eleck-ComiendO: fook orf |
| 04:23.18 | Padnah | MrMazda, here are the commands script that I have found in association with "readpst" which is a Microsoft Office Outlook pst file conversion tool to mbox or Kmail. Can you tell me if this is what I need for this importation of my Outlook pst files? http://pastebin.ca/36835 |
| 04:23.24 | Guerin | haha |
| 04:23.25 | bunghole | Guerin, if i install sarge, is it safe to add another deb source for testing, and do apt-get -t testing xfce4? |
| 04:23.26 | Guerin | transparent |
| 04:23.40 | psychonate | Guerin, yeah yeah |
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| 04:23.46 | odla | bunghole: get xfce4 from backports.org |
| 04:23.46 | Guerin | bunghole: don't use testing, use the packages from backports.org or somesuch |
| 04:23.49 | Perseid | odla: Would that cause it to fail to auto-mount? |
| 04:23.51 | liable | bunghole: its prolly in backports |
| 04:23.52 | odla | bunghole: www.backports.org |
| 04:23.55 | clearscreen | erm.. I downloaded the CD Image before and it didnt have support for my nForce 4 networking card.. I'm downloading the DVD now in hope that this will, can anyone confirm that? |
| 04:23.55 | bunghole | ok |
| 04:23.57 | Guerin | or from the upstream provider |
| 04:23.58 | bunghole | alright then |
| 04:24.01 | psychonate | Guerin, it's shaded, and my background is mostly solid, it's fairly easy to look at |
| 04:24.05 | odla | Perseid: you might not be able to mount it as a regular user if you don't have permissions |
| 04:24.06 | Eleck-ComiendO | http://laparroquia.net/cristux/ |
| 04:24.11 | bunghole | I installed the nvidiafb(framebuffer) module. now the console looks fantastic, but nvidia(gfx driver) module won't work/x wont' start. i tried to remove nvidiafb but it says can't remove cuz its in use. even if i reboot now it will go back to the fb driver, how do i make it unload |
| 04:24.11 | odla | Perseid: so maybe |
| 04:24.15 | Guerin | psychonate: not as easy to look at as grey text on black |
| 04:24.21 | bunghole | any help on that framebuffer thing |
| 04:24.28 | zyros | how do i edit x11, it doesnt load |
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| 04:24.39 | liable | !drxx zyros |
| 04:24.39 | dpkg | zyros: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 04:24.40 | psychonate | Guerin, true, but not far off |
| 04:24.41 | charlie | ok, i'm installing KDE now.. |
| 04:24.46 | odla | zyros: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfred86 |
| 04:24.51 | bunghole | xfred |
| 04:24.52 | bunghole | hehe |
| 04:24.53 | odla | charlie: why? |
| 04:24.56 | Azar | bunghole maybe you need exit X and stop some X processes while you working at it |
| 04:24.56 | bunghole | fred is cool |
| 04:25.02 | odla | charlie: it's not a gnome or kde issue...it's an X issue |
| 04:25.04 | charlie | ermm, dunno |
| 04:25.08 | bunghole | Azar: read again, and carefully thing |
| 04:25.09 | bunghole | time* |
| 04:25.15 | bunghole | this time damn |
| 04:25.16 | charlie | its saying X is not configure'd correctly ;\ |
| 04:25.16 | clearscreen | erm.. I downloaded the CD Image before and it didnt have support for my nForce 4 networking card.. I'm downloading the DVD now in hope that this will, can anyone confirm that? anyone? |
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| 04:25.34 | odla | charlie: apt-get install nvidia-glx |
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| 04:25.57 | moshii_ | clearscreen: was the CD image the same release as the DVD? If so, no |
| 04:26.07 | Azar | bunghole: the init.d loads and starts stuff, maybe there you can stop/unload "in use" stuff |
| 04:26.17 | zyros | i select ati for my radeon correct? |
| 04:26.17 | bunghole | Azar: its a kernel module |
| 04:26.31 | liable | charlie: type this as root .. grep EE /var/log/XFree86.log0 |
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| 04:26.33 | moshii_ | clearscreen: the installer on the DVD isn't any different. The DVD just has more packages. |
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| 04:26.45 | clearscreen | yes moshii_.. so why do the debian releases have outdated kernel versions? Ubuntu detects my hardware perfectly |
| 04:26.49 | bunghole | i need to make sure a certain module DOES NOT load upon restart |
| 04:26.50 | Azar | bunghole: I see.. |
| 04:26.54 | zyros | how do i find out my video cards bus identifier, i know it is PCI bus... ??????? |
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| 04:26.54 | bunghole | where do i remove it from |
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| 04:27.03 | bunghole | zyros: lspci -X |
| 04:27.12 | moshii_ | clearscreen: use ubuntu then |
| 04:27.13 | odla | clearscreen: why does debian have releases...ha ha ha |
| 04:27.18 | liable | zyros: yep, then if it fails try vesa |
| 04:27.20 | odla | oops why = when |
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| 04:27.24 | Azar | bunghole: who loads your modules on bootup? |
| 04:27.30 | multidex | whats the proper tar switches to decompress a bz2 tarball? |
| 04:27.30 | bunghole | Azar: God |
| 04:27.34 | liable | zyros: leave it blank. |
| 04:27.42 | charlie | odla, whats the command to reconfigure xserver-xorg..? |
| 04:27.42 | odla | multidex: tar xjf |
| 04:27.43 | Azar | bunghole: then configure GOD |
| 04:27.49 | clearscreen | moshii_ I want to but the ubuntu installer fucks up heh for unknown reasons to ME and the people on the ubuntu boards. |
| 04:27.51 | odla | charlie: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 04:27.52 | multidex | thanks odla |
| 04:27.53 | zyros | liable, it didnt work i left it blank last time |
| 04:27.54 | bunghole | Azar: God: command not found |
| 04:28.07 | odla | charlie: it's too bad gravity isn't here cause he's the X guy |
| 04:28.08 | EdLin | multidex: bzip2 -dc foo.tar.bz2 | tar xvf - |
| 04:28.09 | Perseid | umount -f God |
| 04:28.14 | liable | zyros: is that the only card? |
| 04:28.15 | earthling | is there a cli switch for oo database to start it up without having to go through that entry wizard? something like sbase --nowizard maybe?? |
| 04:28.16 | odla | gravity: are you here? |
| 04:28.17 | Azar | bunghole: eh maybe you do not know how to ask GOD |
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| 04:28.26 | bunghole | i can't go back to sarge from testing, so i guess i'll just reinstall |
| 04:28.32 | shad0w1e | startx wont work. what package do I need to install? |
| 04:28.38 | Azar | bunghole: right |
| 04:28.38 | odla | bunghole: are you have problems with testing? |
| 04:28.43 | bunghole | shad0w1e: x-window-system-core |
| 04:28.48 | shad0w1e | bunghole, thanks |
| 04:28.51 | zyros | liable, no, there is one on the motherboard i think, but my monitor is hooked up to my radeon 9600 |
| 04:28.52 | Guerin | clearscreen: there are debian installers with more recent kernels out there - but since ubuntu uses the debian installer as well, I don't expect it would work any better |
| 04:28.55 | odla | shad0w1e: or reconfigure X |
| 04:29.02 | moshii_ | clearscreen: Stick another NIC in, install, and then build/install a kernel with nf4 support? |
| 04:29.03 | bunghole | odla: not with testing, just with something i can't figure out how to do |
| 04:29.10 | liable | zyros: ah, then yeah, you need to put it in. |
| 04:29.16 | odla | bunghole: why reinstall if you're happy with testing? |
| 04:29.40 | moshii_ | clearscreen: or take debian-installer apart and put support in yourself if you really want ;) |
| 04:29.45 | zyros | liable, how do i figure out the exact bus identifier?? |
| 04:29.45 | bunghole | odla: I want stability of sarge, but newer packages from testing, they told me about backports. gonna go back to sarge and use backports now |
| 04:30.05 | charlie | wtf |
| 04:30.06 | odla | bunghole: cool...yeah panthera backport all of xfce4.2 a couple of weeks ago |
| 04:30.08 | charlie | :( |
| 04:30.15 | bunghole | I have sid on my laptop with kde3.5 and it works great |
| 04:30.20 | odla | or the newer version what ever that is |
| 04:30.24 | liable | zyros: from lspci, but thats not exactly how x likes it. |
| 04:30.37 | bunghole | i use most of the multimedia/office/net applications on the laptop with ssh -X |
| 04:30.40 | clearscreen | well Guerin then maybe you could help me out on this problem Im facing with ubuntu.. everytime I install, everything goes fine, but on rebooted install(where you remove your cdrom) it just aborts after a certain percentage.. after that I'm able to boot into the system but I get weird apt-get(actually dpkg) errors about font config files |
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| 04:30.49 | odla | charlie: what's your chip again... |
| 04:30.55 | kbrooks | clearscreen, #ubuntu |
| 04:30.57 | bunghole | i run servers like apache/ftp/nfs/samba/mail on my desktop |
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| 04:31.02 | kbrooks | clearscreen: not here |
| 04:31.07 | bunghole | so for desktop i think i'll go with sarge |
| 04:31.15 | bunghole | bu i need xfce4.2 on sarge |
| 04:31.19 | bunghole | so i now know |
| 04:31.20 | kbrooks | where is the "based on" factoid again? |
| 04:31.20 | user12 | vitamin - setup /dev/hdc for my user and still get the same reults from the test program |
| 04:31.30 | user12 | can't read from the /cdrom |
| 04:31.33 | Guerin | clearscreen: if I knew or cared about ubuntu support, I'd be in #ubuntu and you could ask me in there |
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| 04:31.42 | clearscreen | kbrooks like I said, I've already asked there AND posted on their boards, no solution.. and since ubuntu's based on debian I thought of asking here, no go I guess heh |
| 04:31.51 | odla | bunghole: yeah panthera has backported it... |
| 04:31.54 | EdLin | !they don't know |
| 04:31.54 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 04:32.00 | worthy | i installed my kernel headers thanks odla |
| 04:32.00 | bunghole | but just for curiosity, how stable is etch? |
| 04:32.14 | bunghole | is it good for regular dayto day use, and how to sid and etch differ |
| 04:32.18 | moshii_ | clearscreen: when you fork debian supporting it is your own problem ;) |
| 04:32.18 | odla | bunghole: i think it's pretty stable...generally |
| 04:32.20 | bunghole | cuz i said i have sid on my laptop |
| 04:32.26 | bunghole | and it works like a charm |
| 04:32.31 | Guerin | bunghole: reasonably, if you exclude things like gnome and kde, which routinely break because they just have so damn many deps |
| 04:32.34 | odla | bunghole: sid is not stable and can break |
| 04:32.40 | worthy | is kernel 2.6.8 stable? |
| 04:32.42 | odla | bunghole: testing is more stable and could break |
| 04:32.49 | Guerin | worthy: yes. |
| 04:32.54 | odla | bunghole: if you're using testing or sid install apt-listbugs apt-listchanges |
| 04:32.55 | worthy | ok |
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| 04:33.12 | zyros | liable, i get fatal error, no screens found? |
| 04:33.15 | odla | bunghole: i think testing is fine for a desktop |
| 04:33.18 | bunghole | odla: i don't update unless i need to |
| 04:33.21 | odla | bunghole: not a server though |
| 04:33.24 | earthling | xsane will only work with my scanner when I'm root.. as regular user, the only device i can choose is my webcam.. i know it has to do with acl on one of the programs but damn if i can find out which one.. any help? |
| 04:33.33 | clearscreen | heh ok.. I've googled(on my debian problem).. they suggested using the intel 0x80 drivers instead of nvidia's nforce so I'm gonna try that later, if that's not working I'll just go find myself a new nic (still leaves me with sata problems tho) |
| 04:33.36 | Guerin | !noscreensfound |
| 04:33.36 | dpkg | noscreensfound is, like, probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 and SAY NO to the framebuffer question. If that doesn't work, ask me about "troubleshooting x" NOT A SODDING ERROR. read your XFree86 log to find the actual problem. There will be an earlier error (marked "(EE)") that is the actual problem. |
| 04:34.09 | charlie | does anyone know what may be wrong with X ? |
| 04:34.09 | odla | bunghole: i ran testing for several months with no problem |
| 04:34.10 | moshii_ | clearscreen: do you mean intel 810 drivers? that's probably alsa stuff .. |
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| 04:34.35 | odla | clearscreen: use i810 |
| 04:34.36 | Azar | charlie you are using Etch, move to Sarge |
| 04:34.36 | Guerin | !sarge 2.6.12 |
| 04:34.36 | dpkg | well, sarge 2.6.12 is http://kmuto.jp/b.cgi/2005/09/02#d-i-2612 or http://tinyplanet.ca/~lsorense/amd64/ for sarge/amd64 |
| 04:34.39 | clearscreen | yes the alsa stuff moshii |
| 04:34.42 | Guerin | clearscreen: try that installer |
| 04:34.45 | Guerin | ^^ |
| 04:34.46 | odla | !abrotman |
| 04:34.46 | dpkg | abrotman is, like, someone we want to win the calendar poll on http://www.itsallpetesfault.org/ is also abrotman is http://abrotman.needs.help/, or obsessed with useless factoids, or "<abrotman> sgeigerbot: are you still sore at me?" |
| 04:34.48 | clearscreen | even though Im using an nforce 4 chipset lol |
| 04:34.54 | Draco | has anyone here configured snmpd? does anyone know of any guides/tutorials/howtos? |
| 04:34.58 | odla | ha ha |
| 04:35.07 | bunghole | I need to unload a kernel module but it won't unload because its in use. How can I make it unload? |
| 04:35.08 | moshii_ | clearscreen: alsa isn't going to help your nic issue though |
| 04:35.11 | Guerin | !helpfile snmpd |
| 04:35.11 | dpkg | For help with snmpd, look in /usr/share/doc/snmpd There may be an examples/ directory there as well. |
| 04:35.26 | raden | ok ive been reading wine documentation i a lil confussed lets say i was to install a winxp program do i have to use wine to run the install or how does that work ? |
| 04:35.42 | Guerin | raden: #winehq |
| 04:35.57 | liable | zyros: what did you put in for the bus id? |
| 04:36.10 | weenix | what's the difference of Debian Bible and Debian Bible 3.1? |
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| 04:36.39 | moshii_ | clearscreen: if you hardware is supported by recent kernels you could try one of the testing snapshots |
| 04:36.44 | clearscreen | k thanks for your help Guerin (and all of the others) grabbing http://kmuto.jp/debian/d-i/2.6.12/sarge-custom-0831.iso now |
| 04:36.49 | odla | charlie: i think you need to build that nvidia chip into your kernel and i've never done it so i don't know how to help...but there must be some general chipset that you could choose...but i recommend that you try debian sarge first not debian testing |
| 04:36.55 | EdLin | weenix: you probably want 3.1 because it has Sarge |
| 04:36.56 | zyros | vesa worked |
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| 04:37.11 | odla | charlie: you could try the vesa chipset too maybe |
| 04:37.30 | weenix | EdLin: Sarge? what's that? |
| 04:37.31 | clearscreen | moshii_ ah ok, I rather get an 'official testing snapshot' than some image from a japanese website :P |
| 04:37.34 | clearscreen | www.debian.org |
| 04:37.45 | EdLin | !Sarge |
| 04:37.45 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 04:37.47 | odla | !sarge |
| 04:37.47 | dpkg | Ten-HUT! Fall in! Sarge is the code name for the current stable Debian release, version 3.1, released on June 6th, 2005. Ask me about <install debian>. Sarge is the biggest lump of free as in freedom software ever released at one time... read the release notes at http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/releasenotes |
| 04:37.56 | EdLin | odla: GMTA |
| 04:37.59 | moshii_ | clearscreen: what's wrong with a japanese site? can't read it? |
| 04:38.01 | odla | gmta? |
| 04:38.16 | clearscreen | moshii_ heh well there's nothing wrong with a japanese site actually :P |
| 04:38.24 | Azar | odla, I think charlie said nvidia nforce, that sounds like a mobo chipset |
| 04:38.24 | weenix | i see. |
| 04:38.26 | EdLin | GMTA = Great Minds Think Alike |
| 04:38.30 | jetscreamer | i remember using edlin :( sorry dude |
| 04:38.31 | clearscreen | if it had of been german I had said german :P |
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| 04:38.43 | odla | ah huh |
| 04:38.51 | odla | Azar: yeah i don't know shit about nvidia |
| 04:39.03 | odla | Azar: i have a piece of shit intel 845 |
| 04:39.11 | moshii_ | clearscreen: http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/News/2005/20051111 etch beta 1 maybe? |
| 04:39.12 | Azar | odla, me too, I am using a MSI VIA chipset.. |
| 04:39.13 | EdLin | jetscreamer: yeah, even ed(1) is better than edlin :-) |
| 04:39.18 | zyros | how do you set your default wm in debian? |
| 04:39.26 | clearscreen | EdLin, odla, was that sarge meant as a response to me? if so, I'm a little bit confused, moshii_ was talking about a testing snapshot rather than a "stable sarge release" |
| 04:39.46 | Azar | charlie, google for Debian Sarge + nvidia chipset see if is supported |
| 04:39.47 | EdLin | clearscreen: it was for weenix |
| 04:39.52 | clearscreen | ah ok |
| 04:39.56 | jetscreamer | man update-alternatives |
| 04:40.13 | odla | charlie: join #flood and i'll post that nvidia guide for you |
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| 04:40.49 | clearscreen | getting this one debian-testing-i386-netinst.iso |
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| 04:40.57 | Dydier | hi !! |
| 04:41.00 | odla | clearscreen: you want testing? |
| 04:41.02 | weenix | running linux 5th edition is out |
| 04:41.02 | Dydier | excuse me |
| 04:41.05 | odla | clearscreen: don't you wnat stable? |
| 04:41.13 | Dydier | somebody knows |
| 04:41.24 | clearscreen | well odla, stable seems to have outdated kernel that doesnt support my hardware :P |
| 04:41.26 | odla | Dydier: dude? |
| 04:41.29 | EdLin | clearscreen: even if you want testing or sid, it's better to install Sarge and dist-upgrade |
| 04:41.29 | zyros | how do you set your default wm in debian? |
| 04:41.41 | odla | clearscreen: are you running stable now? |
| 04:41.44 | Guerin | clearscreen: goddamnit, I already told you where the installer with the new kernel is at |
| 04:41.55 | clearscreen | Im getting it Guerin |
| 04:41.57 | Guerin | clearscreen: would you rather fix the fucking problem, or piss and moan about it? |
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| 04:42.09 | Dydier | if there is a similar command y or package to "autconfig" |
| 04:42.12 | xchg | good morning |
| 04:42.18 | EdLin | zyros: update-alternatives |
| 04:42.21 | clearscreen | Guerin I am getting the iso from the link you told me, relax :) |
| 04:42.33 | clearscreen | and thanks :) |
| 04:42.43 | Azar | charlie: Unfortunately, unlike the ATA logic, the NIC is licensed from a 3rd |
| 04:42.43 | Azar | party. That means nVidia will only support it with a Standardware |
| 04:42.43 | Azar | (nvnet) driver, so their code can _never_ be in the stock kernel. |
| 04:42.43 | Azar | Although the "all-in-one" driver can link the object code against any |
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| 04:43.08 | Azar | bah dumb me sorry |
| 04:43.31 | odla | Azar: charlie's not here |
| 04:43.35 | weenix | could i create a ext3 file systems in Extended Partition? |
| 04:43.42 | liable | yes |
| 04:43.47 | odla | weenix: if you want to |
| 04:43.56 | weenix | odla: i used to |
| 04:44.05 | Azar | ah ok |
| 04:44.09 | clearscreen | thanks to all btw for the help, as you can see I'm not that experienced heh |
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| 04:44.49 | shad0w1e | why can't I install firefox? It says the package isn't available but is referred to..... what do I need to add to my apt? thanks |
| 04:45.08 | EdLin | shad0w1e: mozilla-firefox |
| 04:45.08 | Dydier | sorry somebody can help me? |
| 04:45.13 | Guerin | shad0w1e: you need to not guess the package na,me |
| 04:45.27 | shad0w1e | Guerin, thaks, worked! |
| 04:45.46 | liable | Dydier: what do you want to config? |
| 04:46.12 | Dydier | I want to know if there is a similar package called "authconfig" from Red Hat in Debia |
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| 04:46.17 | Dydier | LDAP Users |
| 04:46.51 | Dydier | I want to integrate Active Directory with Debian Users |
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| 04:47.14 | jetscreamer | Dydier: i've seen something like that but don't remember the name |
| 04:47.16 | liable | !info authconfig |
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| 04:47.29 | Perseid | Hi, in case anyone cares, the mounting problem was indeed privileges on the mountpoint. So all is well. |
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| 04:48.20 | Dydier | I was looking for similar package but I could'nt find |
| 04:49.03 | opnsrc | it takes to long to organize it and when I do something goes wrong (IE: It randomly deleted the Internet folder). |
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| 04:49.25 | opnsrc_ | oops, wrong channel |
| 04:49.47 | zyros | change my default wm to KDE ,from Gnome? |
| 04:50.12 | liable | Dydier: theres a itp for it, but looks like it isnt packaged yet. |
| 04:50.52 | Azar | odla: The NIC worked fine once I picked the correct driver (forcedeth), although sound support required a kernel upgrade from the 2.6.8 kernel originally in Pure64 to the newer 2.6.10 kernel. |
| 04:51.01 | clearscreen | ok reboot |
| 04:51.07 | clearscreen | thanks you all guys :) |
| 04:51.07 | shad0w1e | how do I get my system to automatically boot into X? |
| 04:51.09 | TGoC | I decided to do an complete reinstallation |
| 04:51.17 | zyros | how do i change my default wm to KDE ,from Gnome? |
| 04:51.17 | TGoC | cause my debian is really screwed atm |
| 04:51.17 | TGoC | :p |
| 04:51.28 | liable | shad0w1e: install kdm/gdm |
| 04:51.32 | Azar | TGoC: you new at Debian? |
| 04:51.38 | liable | !xsession |
| 04:51.38 | dpkg | from memory, xsession is ~/.xsession is used for both XDM and 'startx', when there's no ~/.xinitrc. [See: startx(1)], or best initialized as `echo -e "#! /bin/sh\nsource $HOME/.bash_profile\nsource $HOME/.xinitrc" >$HOME/.xsession', or see this URL for some other tips: http://www.hantslug.org.uk/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?LinuxHints/StartX |
| 04:51.38 | shad0w1e | liable, ah |
| 04:51.40 | TGoC | not exactly |
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| 04:52.01 | TGoC | My homeserver is ok, has been that state for a 1,5 year |
| 04:52.02 | shad0w1e | zyros, one way is to go into your home directory and created a .xinitrc file |
| 04:52.04 | Azar | TGoC: well ok, new install is never bad, you get to see things better |
| 04:52.17 | zyros | cool |
| 04:52.22 | zyros | yeah ive done that before |
| 04:52.27 | tjobo | hmm.. how can i get my resolution to 1024*768 ? its only 800*600 and 640*460 thing ;| |
| 04:52.39 | TGoC | Azar it's just Apache just stops working every day a few times, same goes for mysql, my courier sucks up 80% of my cpu + mem |
| 04:52.45 | zyros | shad0w1e, just /home/.xinitrc? |
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| 04:53.13 | zyros | shad0w1e, i would put "exec startkde" correct? |
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| 04:53.29 | TGoC | + I probably still have old crap installed of previous installations that failed miserably |
| 04:53.50 | Azar | tjobo: as root run : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 then when it asks you about your "preferred" resolution put that one, but also keep the old one handy :) |
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| 04:54.36 | Perseid | Ok. Last noob question of the day: If I want a command to launch at system startup, where's the fil to edit? |
| 04:54.37 | Azar | tjobo: you should exit X while you do configurations to xserver |
| 04:54.54 | Dydier | as there is a similar package of "authconfig" in Red Hat |
| 04:55.12 | TGoC | by the way Azar, what do you prefer? apache 1.3 or apache 2.2 and mysql 5.0 or mysql 4.1? |
| 04:55.34 | Dydier | do you know if it would work if a convert rpm to deb with alien? |
| 04:55.45 | Dydier | ?? |
| 04:55.49 | zyros | where do i put my .xinitrc file? |
| 04:55.58 | tjobo | hmm ok :P |
| 04:56.09 | Azar | TGoC: I am not running a server, I am totally aphon at net stuff |
| 04:56.39 | TGoC | oh k |
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| 04:58.17 | zyros | where do i put my .xinitrc file? |
| 04:58.44 | liable | in your home dir. |
| 04:59.14 | zyros | to start kde i would put exec startkde? |
| 04:59.32 | Azar | exec? |
| 04:59.53 | Perseid | Hmm. My Desktop has a .directory file. What's it do? |
| 05:00.01 | liable | zyros: yeah, i think thats right. |
| 05:00.06 | zyros | thats what it was when i used gentoo, i am just guessing |
| 05:00.09 | TGoC | Debian people, what do you prefer? apache 1.3 or apache 2.2 and mysql 5.0 or mysql 4.1? |
| 05:00.35 | Azar | zyros, startx is not working? |
| 05:00.58 | zyros | Azar, no it works fine |
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| 05:01.02 | zyros | i fixed the problem |
| 05:01.06 | zyros | kde is working now |
| 05:01.10 | Azar | zyros, I do not have kde but I "assume" startx will autostart your designated kde or gnome |
| 05:02.11 | Azar | zyros, what is kde or gnome has over a no .dm desktop? |
| 05:02.27 | Azar | ..just curious, I never had them |
| 05:02.52 | psychonate | <3 growisofs |
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| 05:03.46 | maelztrom | iptables |
| 05:03.58 | maelztrom | ack, sorry for typo |
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| 05:05.33 | NoboruKun | does debian have a core develop team ? |
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| 05:06.04 | Azar | NoboruKun: yes |
| 05:06.30 | NoboruKun | Azar, can i have the website there talks about this please ? |
| 05:06.44 | shad0w1e | question: whenever I run sudo with a command, it says it "cant open my display".. How to fix that? Thans |
| 05:06.46 | Azar | NoboruKun: one moment to look for it |
| 05:06.51 | NoboruKun | ok |
| 05:07.20 | zyros | how do i configure my video settings ? |
| 05:07.20 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: is sudo or that command or sudoers clobbering your environment? |
| 05:07.27 | zyros | like video card etc |
| 05:07.28 | SerajewelKS | !drxx zyros |
| 05:07.28 | dpkg | zyros: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
| 05:07.43 | Azar | NoboruKun: http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
| 05:07.47 | SerajewelKS | zyros: what card do you have |
| 05:07.48 | shad0w1e | SerajewelKS, what? |
| 05:08.11 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: how are you invoking the command, and what is in /etc/sudoers that is giving you permission to run that command? |
| 05:08.15 | shad0w1e | on other systems, sudo synaptic, would open up the synaptic package manager |
| 05:08.24 | shad0w1e | sudo works for other commands, just not GUI-based ones |
| 05:08.32 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: if your DISPLAY and/or XAUTHORITY environment variables are unset/changed you will get that error |
| 05:08.32 | shad0w1e | I added myself to sudoers |
| 05:08.37 | NoboruKun | Azar, checking,thanks |
| 05:08.44 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: or if the invoking terminal does not have those set |
| 05:08.49 | shad0w1e | SerajewelKS, so how do I fix that? |
| 05:08.55 | codeclamp | anyone running xebian? |
| 05:09.07 | TGoC | Since when is gentoo fuller then #debian? |
| 05:09.12 | Azar | SerajewelKS: for a newbie like me: what is the difference between sudo and su? |
| 05:09.13 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: i don't know: < SerajewelKS> shad0w1e: how are you invoking the command, and what is in /etc/sudoers that is giving you permission to run that command? |
| 05:09.32 | SerajewelKS | Azar: su generally starts a shell as another user, whom you must know the password of |
| 05:09.39 | codeclamp | just wondering how save it is to install the cromwell bios to my xbox |
| 05:09.51 | SerajewelKS | Azar: sudo runs commands as a certain user, and which commands you can run and what user they will run under is specified by a file |
| 05:09.52 | codeclamp | not entirely on topic, but i hoped to find someone here |
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| 05:10.06 | zyros | if i want to get aim i just "apt-get aim" |
| 05:10.14 | SerajewelKS | Azar: so you could allow, for example, someuser to run 'apt-get' (bad idea, though) |
| 05:10.16 | zyros | i mean "apt-get gaim" |
| 05:10.33 | liable | !reference |
| 05:10.33 | dpkg | it has been said that reference is The Debian Reference. Will answer most of your questions about Debian. Latest version at qref.sourceforge.net, or http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/reference.en.html#contents. Read it after installing Debian, and before asking for support, as it is the closest thing Debian has to a manual. |
| 05:10.34 | SerajewelKS | Azar: then he can 'sudo apt-get blah blah' (he may need to enter his own password first) |
| 05:10.37 | liable | zyros: ^^ |
| 05:10.40 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I see, I only used su in X when configuring/installing system packages |
| 05:10.57 | SerajewelKS | Azar: right, that's basically all you need it for on a desktop |
| 05:11.40 | kingsley | Would anyone here be willing to check if version 2.0.0 of openoffice's calc supports the "datedif" function? |
| 05:11.54 | SerajewelKS | Azar: basically 'su' is comparable to logging in as a user, while 'sudo' just runs a command as another user |
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| 05:12.16 | Azar | SerajewelKS: ah I see.. interesting |
| 05:12.18 | Azar | thanks |
| 05:12.22 | SerajewelKS | Azar: if you do 'su -c somecommand' then it's basically the same thing, except you need to know the password of the user you're trying to run the command as |
| 05:12.25 | SerajewelKS | Azar: np |
| 05:12.35 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: one sec |
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| 05:13.00 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: you don't need oo-base 2.0.0, do you? |
| 05:13.38 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: calc doesn't appear to have that, no |
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| 05:14.00 | kingsley | SerajewelKS: I don't know. I have version 1.1.4 of OO installed now, but it doesn't have the "datedif" function. If version 2.0.0 has it, I'll download it. |
| 05:14.12 | Roots | How difficult is it to usurp management of a package from a manager who is unresponisve? >_> |
| 05:14.24 | kingsley | SerajewelKS: Did you look for datedif in version 2.0.0 of OpenOffice's calc? |
| 05:14.26 | zethreth | I've been trying to mount my usb drive for the last hour now. I have hotplug and do have a entry in /proc/bus/usb/devices showing my flash pen. It won't except vfat or ntfs as a file system type. Any ideas ? |
| 05:14.30 | SerajewelKS | Roots: afaik you file a bug against wnpp |
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| 05:14.41 | SerajewelKS | Roots: see http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp |
| 05:14.44 | SerajewelKS | kingsley: yes |
| 05:14.53 | kingsley | SerajewelKS: Thank you. |
| 05:15.31 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: do an 'fdisk -l' on it |
| 05:15.47 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: and, how are you trying to mount it? |
| 05:16.00 | zethreth | through fstab |
| 05:16.30 | wireddd | is kde 3.5 in the testing repository? |
| 05:16.34 | zethreth | /dev/sda1 /media/usb vfat user,noauto 0 0 |
| 05:16.48 | liable | zethreth: what did dmesg say about it when plugged in? it may be sdb1 |
| 05:16.51 | zethreth | I've tried other combos |
| 05:16.53 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: what does 'fdisk -l /dev/sda' say? (pastebin) |
| 05:17.02 | cyzie | hello all, how to gzip and tar a folder at 1 command line? thx |
| 05:17.24 | zethreth | I used sg_scan |
| 05:17.37 | zethreth | It's on sda for sure |
| 05:17.45 | SerajewelKS | cyzie: tar -zcf something.tar.gz somefolder |
| 05:18.04 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: just pastebin the output please |
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| 05:18.24 | cyzie | thx SerajewelKS |
| 05:18.30 | SerajewelKS | cyzie: np |
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| 05:19.00 | SerajewelKS | cyzie: if you need to control the compression level: tar -c somefolder | gzip -9 > something.tar.gz |
| 05:19.07 | worthy | im crashing and freezing alot with this new kernel 2.6.8-2-k7 - how do i run an integrity check at the command line |
| 05:19.13 | SerajewelKS | cyzie: replacing -9 with the appropriate compression level |
| 05:19.30 | cyzie | okay, thx for additional info SerajewelKS. copied that |
| 05:19.50 | worthy | fschk? |
| 05:19.56 | worthy | it doesn't work for me :-( |
| 05:20.11 | SerajewelKS | worthy: fsck has little to do with the kernel |
| 05:20.20 | SerajewelKS | worthy: reboot using your old kernel backup |
| 05:20.42 | worthy | i took it out of the boot up options SerajewelKS :-( |
| 05:20.51 | worthy | how do i downgrade and get my old kernel back |
| 05:20.54 | liable | so re-install it.. |
| 05:20.57 | SerajewelKS | worthy: well that was a dumb thing to do... =/ |
| 05:21.04 | worthy | i know :-( |
| 05:21.06 | worthy | im new |
| 05:21.12 | SerajewelKS | worthy: you sure this box is k7? |
| 05:21.16 | liable | not worthy :) |
| 05:21.35 | worthy | well, when i needed motherboard drivers for windows xp, it was k7 |
| 05:21.43 | zethreth | SerajewelKS: http://pastebin.ca/36837 here's the output if it helps |
| 05:21.47 | SerajewelKS | worthy: hmm |
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| 05:21.56 | liable | worthy: install a 386 kernel |
| 05:22.03 | worthy | i have to find my way back :-( i dont know how |
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| 05:22.29 | worthy | i think i got it |
| 05:22.29 | worthy | brb |
| 05:22.31 | SerajewelKS | worthy: is the box stable enough to boot to single user and access the network? (boot with 'single' option to kernel, enter root password when prompted, and 'ifup eth0') |
| 05:22.31 | wireddd | worthy what speed/brand of processor do you have? |
| 05:22.32 | Azar | reading the instruction for installations what is "vanilla" and "speakup" flavors ? |
| 05:22.51 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: that's not the output i asked you for |
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| 05:23.09 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: fdisk -l /dev/sda |
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| 05:23.27 | zethreth | oh sorry |
| 05:23.31 | zethreth | hold on |
| 05:23.34 | worthy | 1.8 gig fast |
| 05:23.59 | wireddd | who makes the processor |
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| 05:24.38 | worthy | do i want to install "kernel-image"? |
| 05:24.39 | SerajewelKS | worthy: if you can't get a network on this kernel, boot from a livecd, mount your /, chroot to it, and apt-get install an old kernel |
| 05:24.54 | SerajewelKS | worthy: kernel-image-2.6.8-*-386 |
| 05:25.06 | worthy | ok |
| 05:25.09 | SerajewelKS | worthy: whatever the current debian version is, i think it's -2 |
| 05:25.27 | worthy | i had 2.4.27 before |
| 05:25.38 | zethreth | SerajewelKS: http://pastebin.ca/36838 here it is. |
| 05:25.40 | SerajewelKS | worthy: was it a -386 kernel? |
| 05:25.48 | worthy | yes SerajewelKS |
| 05:25.54 | SerajewelKS | worthy: then the 2.6 one should work |
| 05:26.05 | SerajewelKS | worthy: 2.6.8-2-386 i believe is the current one on sarge |
| 05:26.12 | worthy | image not sources or headers right? |
| 05:26.13 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: hmm interesting |
| 05:26.25 | worthy | ok i'll try that one |
| 05:26.28 | SerajewelKS | worthy: not unless you want to compile your own, no |
| 05:26.37 | worthy | no :-( |
| 05:26.45 | worthy | can i apt-get and let apt do it all for me? |
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| 05:27.01 | SerajewelKS | zethreth: windows uses the disk without error? if so can you stick it in a windows machine and run check disk on it? |
| 05:27.54 | liable | worthy: yes, install the image one. |
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| 05:28.01 | zethreth | It'll take me a couple minutes but I'll give it a try |
| 05:28.45 | worthy | ok |
| 05:29.30 | worthy | is the old kernel stuff still here or did the new kernel overwrite it? |
| 05:30.10 | SerajewelKS | worthy: did you remove the old kernel, or just from the boot list? |
| 05:30.20 | worthy | just from the boot list |
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| 05:30.29 | SerajewelKS | worthy: then you can just add it back in |
| 05:30.40 | worthy | ok let me see if it's there |
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| 05:31.42 | worthy | no, it just shows me to add operating systems |
| 05:31.52 | worthy | in the boot mgr settings |
| 05:31.55 | SerajewelKS | worthy: what is your boot loader |
| 05:32.11 | worthy | grub |
| 05:32.25 | SerajewelKS | worthy: so edit grub's menu.lst and add it manually |
| 05:32.26 | worthy | im pretty sure its grub |
| 05:32.29 | worthy | how can i be sure |
| 05:32.42 | SerajewelKS | worthy: when you boot, do you see "grub" on the screen anywhere? |
| 05:32.56 | worthy | not that ive noticed |
| 05:32.57 | worthy | no |
| 05:33.07 | SerajewelKS | worthy: what does the screen look like? |
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| 05:33.15 | odla | worthy: dpkg -s grub |
| 05:33.29 | worthy | blue box with three choices of logins |
| 05:33.29 | SerajewelKS | odla: both packages can be installed at the same time |
| 05:33.35 | SerajewelKS | worthy: that's grub |
| 05:33.43 | worthy | ok |
| 05:33.49 | odla | SerajewelKS: grub's default, no? |
| 05:34.05 | SerajewelKS | odla: might be, i use lilo |
| 05:34.18 | worthy | i see alot of grub info on that command odla |
| 05:34.30 | worthy | ok im going to try to get that kernel image back |
| 05:34.31 | worthy | brb |
| 05:35.31 | SerajewelKS | IMO lilo is easier to configure but that's just me |
| 05:36.16 | Azar | huh? "The installer is not designed to re-install over an existing system." why not? I did it so many times with Woody!!! |
| 05:36.33 | Azar | :( why oh why? |
| 05:36.45 | liable | Azar: delete and remake the partition. |
| 05:36.51 | SerajewelKS | Azar: and you can't tell it "up yours" and proceed anyway? |
| 05:37.03 | Azar | liable, I am ok but just studying the Sarge installer... |
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| 05:37.37 | Azar | there are things that I can't understand on the Sarge installer and I read hoping I can make sense of it |
| 05:37.41 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, hello =) |
| 05:37.47 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: sup |
| 05:37.57 | evilgeek | what's the least-hacked way of getting no X display manager to start on boot? |
| 05:38.03 | gravity | !nodm |
| 05:38.03 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the dm package(s) with "apt-get remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm pdm". "update-rc.d -f xdm remove" and friends will also disable the dm until a package update is installed and the runlevel symlinks are restored.. NEWSFLASH! echo "false" >/etc/X11/default-display-manager, or a temporary solution is to hit ctl-alt-fN to get to a console |
| 05:38.06 | SerajewelKS | evilgeek: uninstall them |
| 05:38.15 | gravity | evilgeek: The latter option is best (echo false...) |
| 05:38.20 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, learning MySQL from CLI now, phpMyAdmin and MySQLCC can go to bed from now on =) |
| 05:38.23 | Azar | liable: the partitioning on the old install will not be valid with a Sarge installer? |
| 05:38.30 | gravity | evilgeek: Or what SerajewelKS said also works easily |
| 05:38.38 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: congrats =) |
| 05:39.03 | Azar | I mean ok I have to initiate them (delete old data) |
| 05:39.11 | SerajewelKS | evilgeek: uninstalling will free space if you're not going to use them anyway. if it's temporary... well, uninstall them and install them later. =) |
| 05:39.24 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, yea, as you said its faster when one is into CLI, and its not dependent on GUI so It feels absolutley right |
| 05:39.31 | TGoC | E: This installation run will require temporarily removing the essential package e2fsprogs due to a Conflicts/Pre-Depends loop. This is often bad, but if you really want to do it, activate the APT::Force-LoopBreak option. |
| 05:39.31 | TGoC | E: Internal Error, Could not early remove e2fsprogs |
| 05:39.36 | liable | Azar: it sees the filesystem and tells you that you might get problems because it'll prolly overwrite some stuff, but not others, and break your system i spose. |
| 05:39.46 | liable | !e2fsprogs |
| 05:39.47 | dpkg | i guess e2fsprogs is if you are getting a messages about Force LoopBreak a likely cause is that you are trying to upgrade pre-stable packages to testing which isnt' supported. you should fully upgrade to the current stable before upgrading to testing,ask me about <force loopbreak> |
| 05:39.48 | TGoC | How do i still upgrade / remove from upgradelist? |
| 05:39.52 | Azar | liable, ah I seee... |
| 05:40.06 | TGoC | liable howto change that? |
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| 05:40.17 | TGoC | or better said: howto fix it? |
| 05:40.24 | Thanatermesis | the GPG key of ETCH has changed ? |
| 05:40.24 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: yeah whenever i learn the CLI version of a GUI tool i generally ditch the GUI in a few days |
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| 05:40.30 | SerajewelKS | Thanatermesis: /topic |
| 05:40.45 | Thanatermesis | thx |
| 05:40.48 | TGoC | !<force loopbreak> |
| 05:40.51 | liable | TGoC: do as it says. are you upgrading to etch or something? |
| 05:40.51 | SerajewelKS | TGoC: dist-upgrade to stable, then to testing |
| 05:41.06 | TGoC | i don't want testing >_< |
| 05:41.09 | TGoC | only stable :p |
| 05:41.22 | evilgeek | let me try that again. |
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| 05:41.27 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, heh, another thing one should think about is to nerver use 3:rd party applications they just eats time |
| 05:41.32 | evilgeek | gravity: where should i echo false? |
| 05:41.39 | Azar | so if automatically sets up dhcp-client and I do not have dhcp what is gonna be? |
| 05:41.43 | TGoC | during dist-upgrade i get the same SerajewelKS |
| 05:41.43 | SerajewelKS | evilgeek: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 05:41.50 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, I have that policy from our discussion since last |
| 05:42.02 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: eat time? |
| 05:42.06 | TGoC | How can i force him to only do stable stuff? |
| 05:42.17 | SerajewelKS | TGoC: edit your sources.list |
| 05:42.21 | TGoC | Cause i don't want beta/testing software anyway |
| 05:42.21 | evilgeek | SerajewelKS: i really don't want to remove the packages. |
| 05:42.27 | SerajewelKS | evilgeek: /msg dpkg nodm |
| 05:42.30 | evilgeek | but yes, i see. |
| 05:42.45 | SerajewelKS | evilgeek: yeah you have to read the whole thing ;) |
| 05:42.54 | worthy | thanks - rebooting :-) |
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| 05:43.06 | evilgeek | SerajewelKS: i did. i was asking for a way that wasn't a hack. that's better than messing with init.d, though. |
| 05:43.13 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, yup =), you have to learn from the begining if one want to convert from phpMyAdmin to MySQL from CLI for example |
| 05:43.13 | TGoC | SerajewelKS where is it? |
| 05:43.21 | SerajewelKS | TGoC: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:43.27 | evilgeek | oh well. |
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| 05:44.06 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: ah.. |
| 05:44.07 | Azar | I never ran tasksel at installation, what is that doing? |
| 05:44.27 | TGoC | k thx SerajewelKS |
| 05:44.31 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, so I'm quire glad that you "pushed" me ;) |
| 05:44.33 | SerajewelKS | Azar: it installs some packages based on your selections, e.g. "Web server" "FTP server" etc |
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| 05:44.48 | sifi-x | quite |
| 05:44.50 | Azar | ah I see.. wow interesting.. next time I will try ti |
| 05:44.50 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: i thought you might like it =) |
| 05:44.51 | Azar | it |
| 05:45.05 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, positive |
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| 05:45.11 | SerajewelKS | Azar: generally if you know what you want it's better to install them manually though |
| 05:45.15 | shad0w1e | how do I change the computer name? |
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| 05:45.31 | SerajewelKS | Azar: e.g. "Desktop environment" installs both KDE *and* GNOME. hard disk space goes down the toilet if you only want one of them. |
| 05:45.34 | SerajewelKS | !hostname |
| 05:45.34 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 05:45.36 | Azar | SerajewelKS: is tasksel huge? |
| 05:45.36 | sifi-x | shad0w1e, /etc/hostname |
| 05:45.50 | SerajewelKS | Azar: it's pretty small |
| 05:45.53 | shad0w1e | I changed it there, not helping |
| 05:45.58 | SerajewelKS | Azar: the stuff it installs can be huge, of course |
| 05:46.06 | sifi-x | shad0w1e, and /etc/hosts |
| 05:46.11 | Azar | SerajewelKS: yes that what I was told, not to bother with tasksel.. |
| 05:46.11 | shad0w1e | sifi-x, thanks |
| 05:46.20 | SerajewelKS | !tell shad0w1e about hostname |
| 05:46.27 | sifi-x | shad0w1e, just change "debian" in both files and reboot |
| 05:46.29 | Azar | OpenOffice took like what... 20min to download |
| 05:46.39 | shad0w1e | I changed it in both places already.. |
| 05:46.43 | shad0w1e | now it wont reboot! |
| 05:46.51 | sifi-x | shad0w1e, no don't |
| 05:46.54 | Azar | 45min to finish the online upgrade |
| 05:46.56 | sifi-x | shad0w1e, :0) |
| 05:46.58 | liable | shad0w1e: run hostname <newhostname> |
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| 05:47.03 | shad0w1e | liable, thanx |
| 05:47.05 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: won't reboot, as in "doesn't boot up" or "won't shut down" |
| 05:47.40 | shad0w1e | ok that worked like a charm! |
| 05:47.42 | shad0w1e | thanks |
| 05:47.46 | sifi-x | liable, does that modify /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname |
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| 05:47.54 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: yes, if you listened to dpkg you would have read that info twice now |
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| 05:48.17 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: no, it doesn't |
| 05:48.23 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: !hostname |
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| 05:49.01 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, !hostname does not work |
| 05:49.09 | SerajewelKS | !hostname |
| 05:49.09 | dpkg | use hostname <hostname> to set the hostname, $EDITOR /etc/hostname to set it for the next boot, and $EDITOR /etc/hosts to set the FQDN, or create /etc/hostname if it doesn't exist, or 'man 1 hostname' |
| 05:49.12 | SerajewelKS | yes it does ;) |
| 05:49.13 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, /msg sifi-x !hostname |
| 05:49.21 | sifi-x | SerajewelKS, /msg sifi-x about !hostname |
| 05:49.34 | SerajewelKS | sifi-x: what the hell? |
| 05:49.35 | liable | sifi-x: /msg dpkg hostname.. |
| 05:49.38 | zyros | whats the package for gaim? |
| 05:49.41 | SerajewelKS | zyros: gaim |
| 05:49.59 | TGoC | I like debian, First you start reading the dialog and when you have finished reading it you know you want the default :P |
| 05:50.18 | SerajewelKS | zyros: tricky naming scheme, eh? =P |
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| 05:50.29 | clearscreen | hi :) |
| 05:50.34 | clearscreen | I'm using debian now heh heh |
| 05:50.41 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: congrats |
| 05:50.42 | zyros | SerajewelKS, what are you talking about? |
| 05:50.57 | TGoC | poor debian clearscreen |
| 05:51.04 | SerajewelKS | zyros: in reference to my response to your question, or to my sarcastic remark? |
| 05:51.31 | BastardLinux | ^l |
| 05:51.31 | zyros | SerajewelKS, do you know the answer wise guy? |
| 05:51.37 | TGoC | 90% of the debian questions are being answered as default >_> |
| 05:51.41 | SerajewelKS | zyros: yes, i told you, not 2 seconds after you asked |
| 05:51.44 | BastardLinux | apt-get install gaim ? |
| 05:51.53 | liable | zyros: he told you dumb guy |
| 05:51.59 | TGoC | BastardLinux pretty much yeah |
| 05:52.08 | zyros | so i would type apt-get gaim? |
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| 05:52.16 | TGoC | zyros apt-get install gaim |
| 05:52.18 | clearscreen | anyway, I have another little thing I need help on.. my AC97 Audio Device isnt working.. it is detected and installed, but simply not working. I've read this entire topic: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2005/03/msg00366.html and it didnt really help out(they are suggesting a kernel install to 2.6.10, while I am running 2.6.12, also, they are using 64bit and I'm using 32bit)... Help!! :P |
| 05:52.19 | BastardLinux | haha |
| 05:52.20 | TGoC | you're good |
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| 05:52.41 | BastardLinux | ^l alsamixer turn up the volume |
| 05:52.44 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: hmm, my AC97 is working.. did you install alsa? |
| 05:52.53 | clearscreen | I did an apt-get install alsa yes |
| 05:52.55 | clearscreen | then rebooted |
| 05:52.57 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: also define "isn't working" |
| 05:53.00 | BastardLinux | clearscreen, alsamixer |
| 05:53.06 | zyros | what about for opera , apt-get install opera? |
| 05:53.06 | BastardLinux | ^l unmute |
| 05:53.16 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: do you hear nothing, do apps complain that the device doesn't exist? does smoke come out of your speakers? |
| 05:53.19 | BastardLinux | alsa is muted by default dude |
| 05:53.27 | TGoC | zyros you are becoming smarter alread |
| 05:53.27 | BastardLinux | mute? |
| 05:53.27 | SerajewelKS | zyros: opera is not in debian |
| 05:53.30 | TGoC | already* |
| 05:53.30 | BastardLinux | unmute? |
| 05:53.31 | BastardLinux | haha |
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| 05:53.36 | clearscreen | Rhythmbox says there's something wrong and I should check my settings |
| 05:53.46 | clearscreen | but mostly I hear nice beep sounds on everything :P |
| 05:53.51 | TGoC | SerajewelKS doesn't matter, atleast he got the apt-get syntax right now ;) |
| 05:53.57 | clearscreen | bash: alsamixer: command not found |
| 05:54.05 | SerajewelKS | !alsa |
| 05:54.05 | dpkg | Read http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/UseSoundCard |
| 05:54.09 | liable | clearscreen: install alsa-utils |
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| 05:54.18 | SerajewelKS | stupid factiod... |
| 05:54.21 | SerajewelKS | factoid too |
| 05:54.22 | Kvant | zyros, add this to /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ sarge non-free (or etch or sid) |
| 05:54.34 | clearscreen | ok Im in the mixer now :P |
| 05:54.37 | BastardLinux | there may be some g/k util for alsa, but alsa-utils should get you sound |
| 05:54.42 | SerajewelKS | Kvant: you're telling someone to use a ... non-free browser? *gasp* |
| 05:54.43 | clearscreen | dont know how it works yet tho |
| 05:54.52 | BastardLinux | arrow |
| 05:54.57 | BastardLinux | (hint) |
| 05:55.00 | clearscreen | I see something interesting heh: Item: Master [Off] |
| 05:55.00 | zyros | apt-get --fix-missing isntall gaim |
| 05:55.01 | zyros | ? |
| 05:55.10 | BastardLinux | ^l ;) |
| 05:55.15 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: move around with right and left arrow, adjust volume with up and down arrow, mute/unmute with 'm' |
| 05:55.41 | SerajewelKS | zyros: that is a valid command, yes. or did you have a question? |
| 05:55.43 | BastardLinux | clearscreen, type ctrl l in your screen after you get it working /me snickers |
| 05:56.06 | TGoC | I think there should become an debian image installation with everything configured to the newb's needs. |
| 05:56.13 | odla | zyros: you can also get opera from debian-unofficial |
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| 05:56.30 | TGoC | odla, or screw opera and use mozilla? |
| 05:56.31 | TGoC | :p |
| 05:56.34 | SerajewelKS | TGoC: write one. or use windows. =P |
| 05:56.42 | clearscreen | hehehe.. do alsamixer changes work directly? so without having to close it |
| 05:56.43 | liable | TGoC: there is, its called ubuntu. |
| 05:56.45 | I4NI | opera can handle more tabs than mozilla |
| 05:56.46 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: yes |
| 05:56.50 | TGoC | rofl liable |
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| 05:57.10 | SerajewelKS | I4NI: who the hell needs that many tabs |
| 05:57.20 | clearscreen | ok.. I removed ALL mutes from ALL the thingy's in alsamixer (alsmost everything had mute) but still no sound |
| 05:57.28 | TGoC | SerajewelKS untill i graduated from school i'm not even considering to use linux on my pc |
| 05:57.32 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: and did you turn up 'master' and 'pcm'? |
| 05:57.36 | BastardLinux | TGoC, ubuntu ? |
| 05:57.46 | clearscreen | yes |
| 05:57.48 | odla | TGoC: or screw them both and use links2 |
| 05:57.50 | odla | ;) |
| 05:57.50 | I4NI | SerajewelKS: well when Im on wikipedia, I end up with ALOT of tabs |
| 05:57.51 | BastardLinux | liable, haha |
| 05:57.57 | clearscreen | wait I'll start xmms |
| 05:58.01 | TGoC | odla :p |
| 05:58.14 | SerajewelKS | I4NI: true, wikipedia is a tab-hungry site |
| 05:58.28 | clearscreen | woohooo!!! |
| 05:58.29 | clearscreen | SOUNDS |
| 05:58.30 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: wtf is ^l |
| 05:58.30 | BastardLinux | haha |
| 05:58.31 | TGoC | The fight of the OS, Windows ** VS *nix , well we know who's going to win don't we :) |
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| 05:58.38 | clearscreen | thanks man!! :) |
| 05:58.39 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, clearscreen ;) |
| 05:58.48 | odla | i think the debian install is user friendly |
| 05:58.55 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: what? |
| 05:58.56 | TGoC | odla, i agree |
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| 05:59.03 | clearscreen | oh another problem SerajewelKS ... the sound is so low.. even though everything is 100% |
| 05:59.09 | TGoC | Installing debian is also no problem really |
| 05:59.10 | clearscreen | nvmd |
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| 05:59.13 | clearscreen | turned on master |
| 05:59.16 | TGoC | just hit the default key over and over again |
| 05:59.20 | SerajewelKS | odla: the partitioning dialog is a little confusing, but other than that yeah |
| 05:59.23 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, in a term <ctrl> l clears the screen |
| 05:59.30 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: turn up the speakers |
| 05:59.40 | clearscreen | Love you SerajewelKS :) |
| 05:59.43 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: yes. how do you watch it dance. |
| 05:59.48 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: ;) |
| 05:59.49 | BastardLinux | haha |
| 06:00.10 | BastardLinux | damnit |
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| 06:00.19 | BastardLinux | logs, CHECK YOUR LOGS |
| 06:00.27 | BastardLinux | haha |
| 06:00.28 | clearscreen | hehehehe |
| 06:00.35 | clearscreen | BastardLinux thank you too :P |
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| 06:00.39 | TGoC | trolls > /dev/null |
| 06:00.43 | BastardLinux | ^z a zombie |
| 06:01.02 | Azar | debian installer parameters... what is this when you boot from the CD you type debconf/priority instead of bf24? |
| 06:01.09 | clearscreen | oh crap :P my xmms boxes arent sticking together |
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| 06:01.19 | BastardLinux | Azar, linux? |
| 06:01.19 | clearscreen | where's winamp when u need it hehehe |
| 06:01.27 | SerajewelKS | clearscreen: turn on window snapping in the prefs |
| 06:01.28 | BastardLinux | clearscreen, on the other side... |
| 06:01.29 | Azar | BastardLinux: Debian Sarge installer |
| 06:01.42 | BastardLinux | Azar, linux bf24 ? |
| 06:01.59 | TGoC | Azar always read your screen. :) |
| 06:02.00 | Azar | BastardLinux: thats how I used to install Woody, |
| 06:02.01 | BastardLinux | Azar, F3 for help? or F2 ? |
| 06:02.22 | Azar | TGoC: I put the CD installer in: whats next? |
| 06:02.25 | Azar | bf24? |
| 06:02.29 | TGoC | Your screen is your friend. It tells you what to do. Always read carefully, because you're screen won't bite you |
| 06:02.36 | TGoC | Azar boot from CD |
| 06:02.37 | Azar | TGoC: bf24? |
| 06:02.38 | BastardLinux | hehe, yeah TGoC said it |
| 06:02.48 | BastardLinux | <enter> is prolly fine |
| 06:02.49 | TGoC | Firs start booting from CD >_> |
| 06:02.50 | Azar | TGoC: I boot from the CD |
| 06:03.01 | Azar | : ______________ |
| 06:03.03 | TGoC | ok, you get a nice flashy debian blah blah thingie now? |
| 06:03.08 | BastardLinux | what boot params are you looking for that aren't there? |
| 06:03.10 | Azar | bf24? |
| 06:03.19 | BastardLinux | <enter> |
| 06:03.28 | TGoC | try linux24 |
| 06:03.32 | Azar | before or after bf24? |
| 06:03.34 | TGoC | or linux 24 |
| 06:03.41 | BastardLinux | Azar, what are you trying to accomplish? |
| 06:03.52 | Azar | BastardLinux: try to learn Debian installer |
| 06:03.52 | I4NI | or linux26 for 2.6 kernel |
| 06:04.05 | TGoC | Azar i assume you want this |
| 06:04.06 | BastardLinux | Azar, ah then use the F* menu's |
| 06:04.07 | Azar | ah so it changed now.. I see |
| 06:04.08 | TGoC | type: linux24 |
| 06:04.19 | Azar | ok now |
| 06:04.23 | BastardLinux | Azar, it speaks volumes... |
| 06:04.26 | TGoC | after you did that |
| 06:04.26 | Azar | parameters |
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| 06:04.36 | Azar | when do you apply parameters? |
| 06:04.36 | jair_11 | hello guys how are you doing tonight? |
| 06:04.37 | TGoC | Azar, try reading f3 |
| 06:04.59 | TGoC | Azar press one of the F key's on your keyboard. They tell you exactly howto specify parameters |
| 06:05.08 | BastardLinux | TGoC, I have been trying to tell it that for 100 lines =p |
| 06:05.14 | Azar | "The default installation uses debconf/priority=high.' |
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| 06:05.34 | BastardLinux | Azar, you can always renice the pid |
| 06:05.37 | TGoC | BastardLinux, some people don't even know what a F key is |
| 06:05.43 | BastardLinux | if that is what you are concerned with |
| 06:05.43 | Azar | ok boot parameter |
| 06:05.53 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: debconf priority has nothing to do with nice |
| 06:05.56 | TGoC | Azar boot line is: linux24 |
| 06:05.58 | BastardLinux | Azar, what are you tring to do?? |
| 06:05.59 | TGoC | if you need anything else |
| 06:06.12 | TGoC | Either start READING the F key's or do it after you completely installed it. |
| 06:06.13 | Azar | SerajewelKS: I like to have more control over the installation |
| 06:06.18 | TGoC | lol |
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| 06:06.20 | Azar | so the more Qs the better for me |
| 06:06.20 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, the debconf process? or the debconf init script? |
| 06:06.24 | TGoC | Azar try linux24 expert |
| 06:06.54 | TGoC | it should then bother you with alot of crap |
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| 06:07.03 | Azar | debconf/priority=low |
| 06:07.07 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, what is the "debconf/process" then ? |
| 06:07.10 | liable | Azar: ffs, just use the installer and stop asking questions about it. a monkey could install sarge. |
| 06:07.11 | Azar | how do you guys set those parameters? |
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| 06:07.17 | BastardLinux | s/process/priority |
| 06:07.17 | ahattar | hi all |
| 06:07.21 | coz | hello all |
| 06:07.28 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: /priority? it specifies the priority of debconf questions you get asked. |
| 06:07.29 | shad0w1e | I dont have sound on my new debian install. what's the easiest way to get it? My hardware is picked up, btw.. |
| 06:07.38 | Azar | :( ok I will stick with Woody installer |
| 06:07.42 | SerajewelKS | BastardLinux: low priority means you get asked more questions that are more detailed |
| 06:07.43 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, oh oh oh. I see |
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| 06:07.46 | ahattar | can someone tell me how to install the driver for the nic card |
| 06:07.49 | liable | BastardLinux: its how in depth debconf will go when setting up things that use debconf. |
| 06:07.52 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, it is a 'nothing' switch |
| 06:07.57 | ahattar | i have the driver on cd |
| 06:08.00 | BastardLinux | SerajewelKS, liable right right |
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| 06:08.17 | Azar | sorry I was wasting my and your time |
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| 06:08.23 | worthy | back |
| 06:08.25 | BastardLinux | like saying "and suggested packages...foo" |
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| 06:08.40 | shad0w1e | how do I get sound to work on my brand new debian install? |
| 06:08.43 | zyros | i cant open my cd-rom drive |
| 06:08.51 | zyros | newly isntalled system |
| 06:09.09 | clearscreen | hehe let's see if there's a xmms plugin to dock it into the systrat |
| 06:09.12 | clearscreen | tray* |
| 06:09.19 | worthy | this kernel seems to be treating my boot up pretty good but i have no sound. I got an error message: erroe while initializing sound driver /dev/dsp no such device using null output. what do i do please? |
| 06:09.25 | SerajewelKS | zyros: "open" as in "view" or "open tray" |
| 06:09.33 | TGoC | zyros is the db cd still in it? |
| 06:09.38 | TGoC | db = debian |
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| 06:09.46 | shad0w1e | I dont have alsa, esound, or oss installed... is that why? which one should I install? thanks |
| 06:09.53 | liable | worthy: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 06:10.02 | karrot-x | hey is release 1 stable? |
| 06:10.14 | zyros | TGoC, no there is a DVD containing data inside |
| 06:10.17 | SerajewelKS | shad0w1e: install alsa-base alsa-utils |
| 06:10.25 | shad0w1e | SerajewelKS, thanks |
| 06:10.36 | worthy | modprobe snd-pcm-oss returned no action |
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| 06:10.48 | liable | thats good. |
| 06:10.52 | I4NI | is it mounted zyros ? |
| 06:10.53 | liable | !sound test |
| 06:10.58 | liable | !soundtest |
| 06:11.27 | enlightenedone | hey, i've d/led the latest kernel from kernel.org, but no checksum value is provided at the site...how can i check that my d/l is OK? |
| 06:11.28 | MrMiracle | When I try to connect to the internet using Debian 3.0 I get the response that the connect script failed. It does not say where. How can I find out? |
| 06:11.32 | TGoC | oh then i kinda don't know zyros |
| 06:11.43 | worthy | !soundtest: event not found |
| 06:11.45 | zyros | I4NI, well i copied files from it... |
| 06:11.56 | liable | worthy: now type this in a term, cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
| 06:12.10 | I4NI | zyros: try unmounting it, then it should open |
| 06:12.28 | worthy | liable bash: /dev/dsp: No such device |
| 06:12.54 | liable | worthy: which kernel did you end up installing? |
| 06:12.54 | zyros | I4NI, how do i unmount it? |
| 06:13.04 | worthy | 2.4.27.386 |
| 06:13.12 | worthy | my original one |
| 06:13.42 | I4NI | zyros: umount <path/to/mountpoint> |
| 06:13.57 | liable | worthy: you know what soundcard you have? |
| 06:13.59 | clearscreen | is there a way to hide applications from the taskbar in GNOME? (I know how to do it in KDE) |
| 06:14.01 | worthy | do i need to install alsa? |
| 06:14.10 | worthy | sound blaster live |
| 06:14.16 | liable | worthy: you can for 2.4 if you want. |
| 06:14.38 | liable | worthy: apt-cache search alsa, install the modules |
| 06:14.38 | shad0w1e | alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: no such device... (what does this mean?) |
| 06:14.43 | worthy | i don't know what i need |
| 06:14.51 | worthy | i did that :-( |
| 06:14.59 | liable | worthy: the alsa modules package for 2.4 |
| 06:15.08 | worthy | yes |
| 06:15.19 | worthy | i should just go get them all for 24.27 |
| 06:15.26 | worthy | 2.4.27 |
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| 06:15.36 | TGoC | During my bind installation: bind9: Depends: libdns5 but it is not installable |
| 06:15.53 | worthy | does alsa give me my sound or oss? |
| 06:16.06 | liable | worthy: apt-get install alsa-modules-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 06:16.19 | worthy | ok |
| 06:16.50 | worthy | it says i already have it - i just install that 5 minutes ago |
| 06:16.57 | worthy | maybe i need other alsa stuff? |
| 06:17.01 | worthy | brb |
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| 06:17.19 | liable | worthy: lsmod |grep snd |
| 06:17.20 | TGoC | What can i do about this?> During my bind installation: bind9: Depends: libdns5 but it is not installable |
| 06:17.26 | I4NI | did it work zyros? |
| 06:17.28 | liable | worthy: do you see anything? |
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| 06:18.00 | worthy | i still see a red x on my sound icon by my clock |
| 06:18.12 | shad0w1e | question: How do I set my system to autologin? |
| 06:18.40 | liable | shad0w1e: should be an option in kdm, when you login. |
| 06:18.46 | shad0w1e | liable, I'm using xdm |
| 06:18.58 | liable | shad0w1e: dunno if xdm can do it. |
| 06:19.16 | shad0w1e | cant I set it via the system itself? |
| 06:20.08 | worthy | lsmod |grep snd gave me some info but i would flood the screen liable |
| 06:20.17 | liable | worthy: /j #flood |
| 06:20.24 | liable | worthy: or use a pastebot |
| 06:20.40 | worthy | ok i'll go to #flood |
| 06:21.38 | liable | worthy: modprobe snd-emu10k |
| 06:21.52 | TGoC | During my bind9 installation i am getting the following problem: Depends: libdns5 but it is not installable same goes for: libisc4 |
| 06:21.59 | TGoC | What can i do to fix it? |
| 06:22.11 | TGoC | Download the source from bind and untar and install from there? |
| 06:22.38 | pc10 | www.friendster.com |
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| 06:24.27 | liable | worthy: sorry snd_emu10k1 |
| 06:24.38 | MrMiracle | When I try to connect to the internet using Debian 3.0 I get the response that the connect script failed. It does not say where. How can I find out? |
| 06:25.03 | liable | MrMiracle: dial up? |
| 06:25.11 | MrMiracle | yes |
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| 06:25.30 | MrMiracle | pap authentication |
| 06:25.47 | liable | MrMiracle: using pon/poff? |
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| 06:26.02 | MrMiracle | yes...as provider |
| 06:26.17 | worthy | i see /dev/dsp but it says it's not there |
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| 06:27.13 | liable | worthy: look in /lib/modules/2.4.27/kernel/sound, and see if the emu10k1 module is there. |
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| 06:27.54 | liable | MrMiracle: try pon -d |
| 06:28.35 | MrMiracle | ok...will that tell me where the script fails? |
| 06:28.39 | worthy | ok |
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| 06:28.51 | liable | grrr, spamassasin just isnt learning about the stupid oem software emails.. :( |
| 06:29.01 | liable | MrMiracle: try it. |
| 06:29.09 | MrMiracle | right |
| 06:29.12 | MrMiracle | thanks |
| 06:29.14 | liable | MrMiracle: you couls also try wvdial. |
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| 06:29.26 | worthy | cd: /lib/modules/2.4.27/kernel/: No such file or directory liable |
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| 06:29.34 | floppyears | hi |
| 06:29.45 | floppyears | does debian have a binary package for id3tag ? |
| 06:29.59 | floppyears | I've tried using apt-cache search, but no luck :( |
| 06:30.06 | liable | worthy: use tab completion, the 2.4.27 should prolly be 2.4.27-2.. |
| 06:30.29 | worthy | im in the directory now |
| 06:30.40 | TGoC | Anyone got a good HTTP Source server with no BROKEN depencies on it? |
| 06:30.46 | worthy | no, my module isn't in here |
| 06:31.08 | liable | worthy: paste the contents in flood |
| 06:31.19 | zyros | whats the package for firefox? |
| 06:31.23 | liable | TGoC: they will all be the same. |
| 06:31.34 | Kvant | zyros, mozilla-firefox |
| 06:31.44 | TGoC | liable not local one's ;) |
| 06:31.50 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can set autologin without kdm or gdm? |
| 06:32.07 | liable | shad0w1e: its in the options when you log in. |
| 06:32.18 | shad0w1e | liable, I did a bare install |
| 06:32.32 | TGoC | liable whats the address of packes for nl.debian.org? |
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| 06:33.01 | liable | TGoC: prolly ftp.nl.debian.org |
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| 06:33.49 | liable | worthy: thats an oss module, but you can use it anyway. |
| 06:33.56 | worthy | ./lib/modules/2.4.27-2-386/kernel/drivers/sound/emu10k1/emu10k1.o liable |
| 06:33.59 | TGoC | liable so ftp://ftp.nl.debian.org ? |
| 06:34.08 | worthy | how do i load it |
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| 06:34.25 | liable | worthy: modprobe emu10k1 |
| 06:34.37 | liable | TGoC: yeah |
| 06:34.42 | TGoC | got it |
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| 06:37.22 | TGoC | hopefully it will find bind packages now |
| 06:37.30 | TGoC | netsplit |
| 06:37.30 | worthy | liable modprobe emu10k1 returned me to the bash prompt |
| 06:37.30 | floppyears | hi |
| 06:37.30 | TGoC | huge netsplit |
| 06:37.30 | worthy | how do i start the sound up |
| 06:37.30 | floppyears | could somebody help me find the program id3tag, I can't find it at all :( |
| 06:37.30 | floppyears | please |
| 06:37.30 | floppyears | anybody |
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| 06:37.30 | TGoC | 2 server's passed out lol |
| 06:37.32 | liable | worthy: cat /vmlinuz > /dev/dsp |
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| 06:37.46 | TGoC | liable |
| 06:37.47 | TGoC | how can i fix this |
| 06:37.47 | TGoC | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.47 | TGoC | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:37.47 | liable | floppyears: whats it do? theres id3.. |
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| 06:37.47 | worthy | liable, i hear a scratching sound |
| 06:37.47 | worthy | my mic i guess |
| 06:37.47 | liable | worthy: then your sound works. |
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| 06:37.47 | liable | worthy: ctrl c |
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| 06:37.50 | worthy | ok good |
| 06:37.51 | liable | TGoC: are you using sarge? |
| 06:37.51 | TGoC | yes liable |
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| 06:37.52 | TGoC | Debian sarge 3,1 |
| 06:37.52 | TGoC | 3.1* |
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| 06:37.52 | liable | TGoC: and you dont have any unnoficial mirrors? |
| 06:37.52 | worthy | i still have this red X on my sound icon by my clock liable |
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| 06:37.53 | TGoC | no liable |
| 06:37.53 | worthy | i should reboot |
| 06:37.53 | TGoC | get me one :P |
| 06:37.54 | worthy | brb |
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| 06:38.28 | prem_ | hi all, just installed etch, how to associate applications with file types for example xchm with .chm i see nothing in "Open with other application" |
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| 06:39.00 | takatumi | prem_: just try typing in xchm there |
| 06:39.06 | Kvant | floppyears, try the pkg: libid3-3.8.3-dev |
| 06:39.15 | liable | TGoC: strange, check the bts. |
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| 06:39.23 | TGoC | bts? |
| 06:39.27 | prem_ | takatumi, that works but i want it to open in something by default |
| 06:39.34 | karrot-x | hmm |
| 06:39.37 | liable | TGoC: are you sure your sources list points to sarge/stable? |
| 06:39.42 | karrot-x | my cntrl alt delete is broked |
| 06:39.45 | TGoC | no |
| 06:39.45 | liable | !tell TGoC about bts |
| 06:39.46 | nuttin_no_go_so | I'm gonna start using Debian from now on, hopefully, but I'm not sure where to start; should I go with the stable release or just go with the current unstable? |
| 06:39.57 | TGoC | no it points to stable |
| 06:40.01 | TGoC | not sarge/stable |
| 06:40.07 | liable | thats ok. |
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| 06:42.28 | takatumi | nuttin_no_go_so: unstable gets newer packages, may break occassionally, sarge is stable, only security updates go in. decide based on your needs/capabilities. |
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| 06:42.47 | sses | hi |
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| 06:43.21 | liable | TGoC: do you have security in your sources list? |
| 06:43.40 | liable | TGoC: and have you run apt-get update? |
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| 06:44.08 | TGoC | yes i have run apt-get update |
| 06:44.08 | TGoC | but the other thing you said i donno |
| 06:44.15 | liable | TGoC: look in your sources list then |
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| 06:44.39 | TGoC | how do i know if it's secure? |
| 06:44.48 | liable | it says security |
| 06:45.01 | floppyears | liable: http://linux.com.hk/penguin/man/1/id3tag.html |
| 06:45.06 | TGoC | nothing in my sources list say security |
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| 06:45.26 | floppyears | Kvant: thanks, I'm giving it a try right now :) |
| 06:45.29 | liable | TGoC: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib |
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| 06:45.39 | TGoC | also a deb-src? |
| 06:45.47 | liable | yeah |
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| 06:46.21 | sses | I'm trying to download a deb from http://packages.debian.org/stable/comm/efax-gtk but debian.org says the sevice is down. It's been down for a while. Are debs available anymore other than throw apt? |
| 06:46.22 | TGoC | still the same liable |
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| 06:46.29 | liable | TGoC: run update.. |
| 06:46.32 | TGoC | i did |
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| 06:47.09 | EdLin | sses: why do you not want to use apt? |
| 06:47.16 | liable | TGoC: have you done a dist-upgrade yet? |
| 06:47.21 | TGoC | yes |
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| 06:47.47 | liable | TGoC: fucked if i know then. sarge shouldnt do that. paste your sources list on a paster. |
| 06:47.53 | sses | I want to download efax-gtk from sarge because it is not available for testing |
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| 06:48.04 | TGoC | www.pastebin.com |
| 06:48.18 | tyler_ | can i make mplayer play wmv files without the file being scramble , rendered unviewable? |
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| 06:48.47 | EdLin | !tell sses about simple sid backport |
| 06:48.47 | tyler_ | can i make mplayer play wmv files without the file being scramble , rendered unviewable? |
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| 06:48.52 | floppyears | Kvant: thanks, a lot that package worked |
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| 06:49.17 | liable | worthy: cool |
| 06:49.20 | TGoC | liable http://pastebin.com/506417 |
| 06:49.23 | worthy | lol |
| 06:49.24 | sses | Edlin: I'm not running sid, I'm running testing. |
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| 06:50.19 | EdLin | sses: you are trying to share two releases. Better to make a simple backport from sid than to download debs from any other release, which is bound to eventually cause conflicts. |
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| 06:50.41 | zyros | debian rules |
| 06:50.51 | nuttin_no_go_so | does anyone know if 3.1_r1 is what I should be getting if I want the stable release/sarge? |
| 06:50.58 | EdLin | nuttin_no_go_so: yes |
| 06:51.00 | takatumi | nuttin_no_go_so: yes |
| 06:51.04 | nuttin_no_go_so | haha nice, thanks!! |
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| 06:51.09 | sses | Edlin: I'm not trying to mix, I just want efax's front end |
| 06:51.32 | liable | TGoC: what are the lycos mirrors? comment them out and update and try again, also you are missing a d from deb in one line. |
| 06:51.38 | sses | but I think I'll just down the deb from ubuntu in that case |
| 06:51.42 | EdLin | sses: if you're getting debs from a different release repository, and that's what you're asking about, you are asking for a world of pain. |
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| 06:52.02 | takatumi | sses: so what are going to do with the deb from sarge? it is available here but then what? http://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/pool/main/e/efax-gtk/ |
| 06:52.04 | EdLin | sses: mixing distributions is even worse than mixing releases. |
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| 06:52.12 | liable | sses: you could always just ftp to a debian mirror |
| 06:52.25 | EdLin | sses: if you think you know better than the people who are answering you, why are you here in the first place? |
| 06:52.31 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can set the system to autologin (without kdm or gdm) ? |
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| 06:53.07 | sses | Edlin: I've gotten away with it and even down successfull upgrades after. The important thing is to keep track of descrepancies and uninstall them before upgrading |
| 06:53.33 | TGoC | I knew it was the lycos mirror liable |
| 06:53.34 | EdLin | sses: if you want to waste your time doing that I'm not going to assist. |
| 06:53.35 | TGoC | :) |
| 06:53.42 | TGoC | Thanks for helping |
| 06:53.55 | worthy | how do I add hda1 back to my dual boot - that's windows xp |
| 06:53.57 | sses | EdLin: if you reread my first posting, I here because I want to download the deb not because I want to hear about the wisdom of mixing releases. |
| 06:54.17 | nuttin_no_go_so | So, I'm getting the 2 install DVD's hopefully.. but that's alot of downloading..: does anyone know if the first DVD would be enough? (I know there's netinstall) |
| 06:54.18 | liable | TGoC: good. |
| 06:54.30 | takatumi | nuttin_no_go_so: don't, get the |
| 06:54.39 | takatumi | nuttin_no_go_so: don't, get the ~100MB netinstaller |
| 06:54.43 | liable | sses: ftp! |
| 06:54.57 | sses | I did ask for your assistence in mixing. I asked why the service was out or if it permamnently out. Don't read between the lines or put words in my mouth please |
| 06:55.04 | EdLin | sses: I told you about a better way of going about it, if you prefer to not accept my advice that's not my problem. |
| 06:55.06 | nuttin_no_go_so | takatumi: hmm... good point |
| 06:55.11 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can set the system to autologin? |
| 06:55.11 | nuttin_no_go_so | takatumi: I'll give that a shot |
| 06:55.12 | sses | sorry I did NOT ask for your assistence |
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| 06:55.21 | sses | is what I meant to ask |
| 06:55.26 | sses | is what I meant to WRITE |
| 06:55.38 | nuttin_no_go_so | takatumi: I'm the type of person that just wants the packages to be there and installed..but I guess it's more efficient this way |
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| 06:55.46 | sses | Who waid it was your prob? |
| 06:55.53 | takatumi | sses: all the packages are available on the mirrors, http or ftp. now move on. |
| 06:55.58 | sses | mierd |
| 06:56.28 | sses | puta madre que son ustedes idiotas |
| 06:56.30 | takatumi | nuttin_no_go_so: what kind of network is it? |
| 06:56.50 | EdLin | !es |
| 06:56.50 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
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| 06:57.14 | sses | segregation? |
| 06:57.28 | liable | not at all.. |
| 06:57.54 | liable | this is an english channel, if you want to talk in spanish, go there ^^ |
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| 06:58.07 | TGoC | !nl |
| 06:58.07 | dpkg | .NL is the Netherlands. See http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/geos/nl.html |
| 06:58.36 | nuttin_no_go_so | takatumi: whoops I didn't mean it that way....I'm actually just trying to get the minimal install and downloading only needed packages from the repositories |
| 06:58.58 | sses | I'll write what I want thanks. But thanks I know about that irc |
| 06:59.21 | EdLin | !troll sses |
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| 06:59.41 | sses | I was saving you guys from hearing me swear. How old are you guys? |
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| 07:00.53 | liable | sses: we can perfectly handle you swearing. this isnt a g rated channel. |
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| 07:02.09 | Kml | hi |
| 07:02.21 | Kml | how install network-admin ? |
| 07:02.25 | Kml | i don t understan |
| 07:03.10 | liable | that makes two of us.. :) |
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| 07:05.38 | xevious | i want amarok in etch! |
| 07:05.52 | worthy | can someone tell me the command line that will allow me to add windows xp to my dual boot? please? |
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| 07:06.29 | liable | worthy: did grub not auto detect it? |
| 07:06.40 | worthy | liable no :-( |
| 07:06.58 | nvz | hmm I almost managed to catch the house on fire without even knowing it |
| 07:07.12 | liable | worthy: any way, theres an example in the menu file /boot/grub/menu.lst add it to the bottom of the file. |
| 07:07.14 | worthy | i went to the boot utility manager and Widows Xp isn't in there anymore - not even if i try to add it |
| 07:07.24 | worthy | ok |
| 07:08.28 | liable | worthy: just make sure you get the partition right |
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| 07:08.57 | worthy | the partiton is hda1 but i dont know what to type in here |
| 07:09.12 | liable | (hd0,0) |
| 07:09.38 | liable | worthy: same as the example.. |
| 07:09.48 | worthy | ok |
| 07:10.01 | liable | worthy: just copy paste it, remove the # from in front of the lines. |
| 07:10.31 | hemal | i need help installing from a DVD a burnt myself after downloading it using jigdo |
| 07:11.12 | hemal | i get error when it loads the installable modules from CD (i think thats the third step) |
| 07:11.53 | hemal | but the md5sum checks out ok on my .iso, the M-F4 screen says there is a md5 error but doesn't tell which file |
| 07:12.29 | hemal | the "Check CD integrity" gives error on one file, in erlang package |
| 07:12.42 | hemal | but i should be able to install without that, no? |
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| 07:13.40 | worthy | oh i added a whole entry the way i seen it except i put hda1 |
| 07:13.42 | worthy | is that good? |
| 07:13.48 | liable | no |
| 07:14.00 | worthy | ok i'll take all that out |
| 07:14.01 | liable | worthy: copy the example word for word. |
| 07:14.10 | liable | without the #'s |
| 07:14.28 | Shadda | quick question |
| 07:14.42 | Shadda | Do I need to do anything special after apt-get source <package>, dpkg-buildpackage ? |
| 07:15.18 | worthy | starting with this?: title Debian GNU/Linux, Kernel 2.4.27-2-386 |
| 07:15.32 | worthy | root (hd0,1) |
| 07:15.43 | worthy | kernel /boot/vmlinuz-2.4.27-2-386 root=/dev/hda1 ro |
| 07:15.43 | xevious | grumble grumble |
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| 07:15.54 | worthy | initrd /boot/initrd.img-2.4.27-2-386 |
| 07:16.08 | liable | worthy: no |
| 07:16.10 | worthy | i added that whole entry and put hda1 |
| 07:16.18 | worthy | ok taking it out |
| 07:16.21 | liable | worthy: /j #flood |
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| 07:16.46 | worthy | ok |
| 07:17.56 | liable | Shadda: apt-get build-dep foopackage? |
| 07:20.04 | shad0w1e | question: How do I get the computer to start up in X (without installing a display manager?) |
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| 07:20.17 | StR | Hi all! |
| 07:20.23 | liable | !info amarok ethch |
| 07:20.32 | StR | anyone knows a repository toget postgresql 8? |
| 07:20.55 | EdLin | StR: you could try searching for postgresql at apt-get.org |
| 07:21.05 | liable | !info amarok etch |
| 07:21.07 | StR | EdLin: I already did... |
| 07:21.20 | EdLin | StR: backports.org? |
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| 07:22.49 | hemal | hello can someone please help? i know the message says not to ask to ask but when i asked i got no answers |
| 07:23.11 | StR | EdLin: I get : W: Couldn't stat source package list http://www.backports.org sarge-backports/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/www.backports.org_debian_dists_sarge-backports_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory) |
| 07:23.25 | StR | EdLin: after trying to add backports to my apt.list |
| 07:23.30 | EdLin | StR: apt-get update |
| 07:23.35 | liable | hemal: you might just have to burn it again. |
| 07:23.36 | worthy | thanks sooooo much liable. i see my xp in the entry |
| 07:23.51 | liable | worthy: does it boot though? |
| 07:23.56 | StR | EdLin: yes, that is what I get while doing an apt-getupdate |
| 07:23.58 | worthy | im sure it does |
| 07:24.27 | worthy | ./dev/hda1 is in the boot manager |
| 07:24.28 | worthy | brb |
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| 07:24.33 | hemal | liable: thanks...when i boot knoppix, my iso is in /dev/hdb1/debian...can i install straight from that iso image? |
| 07:24.34 | StR | EdLin: weird.. now worked... |
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| 07:25.33 | hemal | also: is there a way to figure out whats wrong with my burnt DVD? I had to try several times before K3b was able to burn it |
| 07:25.39 | EdLin | hemal: #knoppix |
| 07:25.43 | liable | hemal: no. |
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| 07:26.02 | liable | EdLin: he's asking debian questions. |
| 07:26.04 | takatumi | hemal: look into debootstrap |
| 07:26.14 | Siv0x | how do i switch from GDM to KDM ? |
| 07:26.27 | liable | hemal: do you not have net on that box? |
| 07:26.31 | EdLin | liable: hmmm, OK. Sorry about that. |
| 07:26.32 | hemal | takatumi: what is debootstrap and what do i look for in it? |
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| 07:26.44 | hemal | liable: i do have net on that box |
| 07:26.47 | liable | Siv0x: you have both installed? |
| 07:26.51 | Siv0x | yes |
| 07:26.52 | hemal | liable: its slow, but i do have it |
| 07:27.00 | zyros | is there a package for azureus? |
| 07:27.13 | liable | Siv0x: dpkg-reconfigure kdm |
| 07:27.15 | EdLin | zyros: yes, but I think its in contrib |
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| 07:27.51 | Siv0x | liable: then logout, and log back in ofcourse? |
| 07:28.01 | StR | EdLin: found pgsql 8.1 in backports... thanks ;) |
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| 07:28.12 | EdLin | StR: np |
| 07:28.20 | xevious | i want amarok back in etch |
| 07:28.27 | xevious | boohoo |
| 07:28.27 | liable | Siv0x: erm, i dunno if it works for just a logout, or the next reboot. |
| 07:28.30 | xevious | g'night folks |
| 07:28.37 | Siv0x | aight, thx :D |
| 07:28.38 | Siv0x | cya |
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| 07:28.56 | EdLin | xevious: dist-upgrade to sid ;) |
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| 07:29.05 | hendry | I have just chrooted into my laptop. But there is no network. Any ideas? |
| 07:29.08 | hendry | http://pastebin.com/506437 |
| 07:29.17 | liable | hemal: you dont have anymore dvd's to try and burn again? |
| 07:29.23 | zyros | whats the best torrent program for debian? |
| 07:29.38 | EdLin | zyros: I kind of like rtorrent, but its not in stable |
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| 07:30.08 | _atchek | hi |
| 07:30.13 | _atchek | i need some help on udev |
| 07:30.18 | zyros | is it ok to dl and install stuff that arent debian packages |
| 07:30.21 | zyros | like azureus |
| 07:30.39 | Viper12 | depends on what you want zyros. I prefer azy, but I like the details it provides as well as safepeer built in (plugins). |
| 07:30.45 | EdLin | zyros: azureus is in Debian, even in stable, but you'll need to add the contrib repostory |
| 07:30.54 | takatumi | hemal: http://www.inittab.de/manuals/debootstrap.html it's probably outdated but you'll get the idea, read the man page as well. |
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| 07:31.15 | _atchek | hal-device-manager does not detect my ide hard disk? |
| 07:31.17 | _atchek | any idea? |
| 07:31.20 | hemal | takatumi: thanks, i just looked...i'll try that |
| 07:31.21 | liable | hemal: or use a boot floppy and your dvd. |
| 07:31.27 | liable | !any ideas |
| 07:31.27 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of condoms, a little cod liver oil, and 42 rabid oxen. And keep the FBI off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 07:31.46 | hemal | liavble: i do have more dvds to re-burn...but they are a little expensive :-) |
| 07:32.12 | shad0w1e | anyone know how I can make one user start up in X automatically? |
| 07:32.13 | liable | hemal: try one more, then look down other avenues. |
| 07:32.15 | hemal | liable: sorry for mistyping your name |
| 07:32.20 | takatumi | hemal: no CD? CD1 should usually suffice or get the netinstaller |
| 07:32.20 | liable | hemal: np. |
| 07:32.42 | EdLin | hemal: use tab completion :) |
| 07:32.49 | hemal | takatumi: i downloaded dvd at work because net at home is slow |
| 07:33.00 | takatumi | hemal: how slow? |
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| 07:33.01 | hemal | EdLin: thanks...didn't know mIRC had it |
| 07:33.08 | takatumi | hemal: and what kind? |
| 07:33.19 | EdLin | eww, mIRC. |
| 07:33.25 | hemal | takatumi: i get about 64K...it is a DSL |
| 07:34.08 | takatumi | hemal: get the netinstaller, it's ~100MB or the biz card ~40MB those should work fine. |
| 07:34.09 | hemal | edlin: yes, unfortunately |
| 07:34.51 | hemal | takatumi: with the netinstaller, will i be able to use the 2 DVD ISOs i have downloaded? or will i still need to get all the packages from net? |
| 07:35.49 | takatumi | hemal: I haven't tried it, but it's probably possible. |
| 07:35.58 | hemal | takatumi: thanks |
| 07:36.21 | liable | hemal: you have a floppy drive? |
| 07:36.39 | TGoC | How can i update the keys of courier imapd and such? |
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| 07:36.40 | hemal | liable: i do, but i have never used it on this box |
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| 07:37.46 | hemal | i am probably being quite rude, but i need to go, babies crying. thanks for your help liable, takatumi, edlin |
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| 07:38.14 | worthy | thanks liable :-) |
| 07:38.18 | zyros | is there a package for limewire |
| 07:38.22 | zyros | ?????? |
| 07:38.23 | liable | hemal: try booting from floppies and it might ignore the error from the dvd and just use it as a package source. |
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| 07:38.57 | liable | worthy: it worked? |
| 07:39.27 | EdLin | zyros: no, but you should be able to run it simply with Java if it's in a jar |
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| 07:39.43 | worthy | yes :-) thanks |
| 07:39.49 | liable | cool. |
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| 07:40.28 | worthy | maybe another day, i can get you to fix why my multimedia freezes when i play avi, xvid, mpegs ect |
| 07:40.34 | worthy | my pc freezes |
| 07:42.02 | ugenn|deb-noob | anyone has a http link to the i386 deb containing dpkg? |
| 07:42.48 | EdLin | ugenn|deb-noob: how did you end up needing that? |
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| 07:43.06 | ugenn|deb-noob | i'm not on a debian box atm. |
| 07:43.30 | EdLin | ugenn|deb-noob: then why do you need it? |
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| 07:45.37 | ugenn|deb-noob | i'm trying to experiment with various package mgmt systems. |
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| 07:46.53 | EdLin | ugenn|deb-noob: nothing to do with running Debian then, right? |
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| 07:48.00 | worthy | i am sooooo addicted to apt-get cache and apt-get install |
| 07:48.07 | worthy | debian rocks!!! |
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| 07:48.19 | zyros | debian rules!!! |
| 07:48.19 | TriKster-Abacus | yes, yes it does |
| 07:48.57 | worthy | how do i add enlightenment to my sessions menu? |
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| 07:49.07 | archie | what is the best pratice, with wireless network, in order to still be able to get in touch with those roaming machine ?dhcp? ?bind/dnc/powerdns? ?all network as one internet line/bridging? ?NAT? ?anything else? ?how those machine would register, so that can still keep in touch if they are online, while their IP may have changed, ?updateDNS? ?? could you give me some clues.. how people usually do... especially in companies, as |
| 07:49.07 | archie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 07:49.08 | worthy | i downloaded and installed it, but it's not in the menu |
| 07:49.24 | TriKster-Abacus | for me out of 6 distros I have tried this week, Manrape, Slackware, Mepis, Gentoo, Arch and slamd-64 Debian has performed the best for me (32bit) |
| 07:49.54 | worthy | wow just this week |
| 07:51.23 | TriKster-Abacus | ya, couldn't get Guild Wars in cedega to work decent |
| 07:51.32 | worthy | anyone here ever hear of paltalk or gaim-pt or autopackage? |
| 07:52.11 | TriKster-Abacus | that was my whole purpose, to get GW to work... I had Gentoo before, but something got messed up and I didn't want to redo a Gentoo install, but ended up doing it again this week after one of the other distros.. but it was just the same |
| 07:52.45 | TriKster-Abacus | Debian has given my 6800 Ultra the fastest fps in glxgears also (6000fps compared to 13000fps now) |
| 07:52.56 | TriKster-Abacus | plus I just love Debian |
| 07:53.36 | TriKster-Abacus | Guild Wars plays just as good if not better in Linux then windows |
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| 07:54.05 | TGoC | how do i make a maildir? |
| 07:54.09 | TGoC | it has a command for it |
| 07:54.10 | TGoC | i forgot |
| 07:54.39 | Gumby | TGoC: maildirmake ? |
| 07:54.54 | Gumby | I seem to recall that command from my travels |
| 07:54.58 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, but then what do you use it for, in linux ? |
| 07:55.08 | TriKster-Abacus | use what? |
| 07:55.11 | TGoC | maildirmake Maildir? |
| 07:55.15 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, 6800 |
| 07:55.25 | TriKster-Abacus | ya, 6800 Ultra for gaming |
| 07:55.34 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, on linux :) ? |
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| 07:55.40 | TriKster-Abacus | yes |
| 07:55.49 | shad0w1e | is there a simple way to add a nice graphical startup screen to Debian, or no? |
| 07:55.52 | TriKster-Abacus | with the nvidia-kernel-source debian package |
| 07:56.03 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, you play pockemon, monopoly ? :) |
| 07:56.14 | TriKster-Abacus | no sorry |
| 07:56.41 | EdLin | my TNT2 M64 has killer fps with nethack |
| 07:57.01 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, there is not really much game on linux.. which would need a 6800 ? as far as i know |
| 07:57.17 | liable | shad0w1e: not easily, no. |
| 07:57.52 | Gumby | TGoC: man maildiermake? |
| 07:58.05 | TGoC | got it already Gumby |
| 07:58.35 | archie | TriKster-Abacus, i mean i have a 6600.. much below yours ;-) :) but well don't really use it on linux.. except for screensaver.. |
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| 07:59.52 | FinnTux | archie, america's army is good. only game I actually play |
| 08:00.20 | liable | are any of them shoot em up games available in the repos? |
| 08:01.01 | archie | FinnTux, any package name |
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| 08:02.13 | shad0w1e | liable, thanks |
| 08:02.39 | shad0w1e | does anyone know what variable is set when X is runnning? |
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| 08:03.59 | sifi-x | why in hell does not: tar czf $(date +%s).tar.gz /mnt/hda6/ --exclude=/mnt/hda6/*.tar.gz excludes *.tar.gz? |
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| 08:04.35 | zyros | how do i unmount this my cdrom |
| 08:04.39 | zyros | it wont open |
| 08:04.44 | archie | FinnTux,yes got it thanks for clue.. |
| 08:04.46 | FinnTux | archie, no debian package that i know of, but go to www.americasarmy.com |
| 08:04.47 | sifi-x | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:04.49 | sifi-x | or whatever |
| 08:04.58 | liable | zyros: eject |
| 08:05.47 | sifi-x | liable, tar czf $(date +%s).tar.gz /mnt/hda6/ --exclude=/mnt/hda6/*.tar.gz does not exclude, any ideas? |
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| 08:05.59 | EdLin | !amy odeas? |
| 08:06.02 | EdLin | !any odeas? |
| 08:06.07 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 08:06.07 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of rutabagas, a little vegemite, and a dozen three-legged oxen. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
| 08:06.08 | liable | haha |
| 08:06.09 | EdLin | ugh |
| 08:06.18 | liable | third times a charm |
| 08:06.33 | EdLin | it's o-dark-30 here in EST |
| 08:06.43 | sifi-x | lol, that was so fucking funny! |
| 08:06.47 | liable | sifi-x: no, sorry. |
| 08:07.05 | sifi-x | liable, not in the mood right now |
| 08:07.06 | liable | heh, my all time favourite factoid i think. |
| 08:07.20 | sifi-x | liable, --exclude should exclude that is what the man page says |
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| 08:07.44 | liable | sifi-x: ask in #bash |
| 08:07.53 | sifi-x | liable, yea, good idea |
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| 08:10.56 | Shadda | I asked this earlier but got disconnected before I could see an answer... |
| 08:11.27 | Shadda | I've run apt-get build dep, apt-get source <package>, and then run dpkg-buildpackage...but as far as I can tell this didn't install the package? |
| 08:11.32 | Shadda | Is there something I must do afterwards? |
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| 08:12.45 | liable | Shadda: did it make a .deb? |
| 08:13.21 | Shadda | no |
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| 08:13.46 | EdLin | Shadda: have you tried apt-get -b source foo (after apt-get build-dep foo) |
| 08:13.48 | Shadda | ah, well |
| 08:13.50 | Shadda | that was simple |
| 08:13.56 | Shadda | just needed to run make install apparently |
| 08:15.31 | EdLin | Shadda: running -b will make a deb for you to install. |
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| 08:16.03 | EdLin | Shadda: though I suppose "make install" might do part of it with some packages. |
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| 08:16.29 | Shadda | yeah, thanks :) |
| 08:17.13 | bellswor | I compiled my own monolithic 2.6.12 kernel in testing, and notice I get several "skipping unavailable/built in [module name] module" messages. Google wasn't a help, so I'm trying to locate 2.6's equivelant to /etc/modules. Any ideas? |
| 08:17.33 | EdLin | Shadda: the disadvantage of make install with a program's makefile is that not all of them have uninstall targets. If you make a deb uninstallation is simple. |
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| 08:18.02 | liable | bellswor: just ignore it. |
| 08:18.41 | liable | bellswor: its probably hotplug/discover looking for the modules, you could try blacklisting and see if it stops. |
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| 08:19.45 | mmh_ | Hi, can I ask a question? |
| 08:19.58 | bellswor | liable: I figured it was safe to ignore, just wanted to clean it up. Thanks for the idea, though. I'll try it out. |
| 08:20.03 | streuner | !ask |
| 08:20.03 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 08:22.49 | streuner | *raises his eyebrowe* |
| 08:23.25 | jetscreamer | !!!renuert<S> |
| 08:23.33 | streuner | hi jet |
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| 08:28.03 | Shorty` | does anyone know of any known major bugs in cacti on etch? |
| 08:28.47 | streuner | BTS might know? |
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| 08:29.07 | Shorty` | naw. p.d.o down :| |
| 08:29.16 | streuner | !bts |
| 08:29.16 | dpkg | bts is the Bug Tracking System for Debian packages, http://bugs.debian.org/ or to go directly to the bug page for a particular package/bug, try http://bugs.debian.org/packagename or http://bugs.debian.org/bugnumber apt-get install reportbug, and check out querybts too. Unstable users are required to check the BTS, useful for sid: apt-get install apt-listbugs, or apt-get install apt-listchanges, or http://fabre.debian.net/ |
| 08:29.25 | Shorty` | thanks :) |
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| 08:33.31 | parsonsd | any ideas on how to track down a fairly recently-made-worse bug within xscreenlock which sends my monitor into an unsupported screen mode? |
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| 08:35.02 | shad0w1e | question: How do I "TAR UP" an entire system" what's the command line arguments? |
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| 08:36.04 | streuner | shad0w1e: apt-cache show partimage |
| 08:36.45 | shad0w1e | streuner,what's thAT?? |
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| 08:36.57 | streuner | !info partimage |
| 08:37.02 | dpkg | partimage: (backup partitions into a compressed image file), section admin, is optional. Version: 0.6.4-14 (sid), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 912 kB |
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| 08:37.36 | shad0w1e | thanks! |
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| 08:53.05 | Yokalosh | Guys, whenever i try to apt-get something i just get an error message 'Err ftp://debian.blueyonder.co.uk Server closed the connection [IP: 194.117.143.70 21}' |
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| 08:53.17 | Yokalosh | any ideas why? |
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| 08:54.02 | yildirim | server down? |
| 08:54.23 | Yokalosh | oh yeh duuur |
| 08:54.26 | Yokalosh | its early ;) |
| 08:54.33 | yildirim | :) |
| 08:54.58 | shad0w1e | anyone know how to tar a directory into a file, maintaining the structure? thanks |
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| 08:55.44 | archie | shad0w1e, tar cvpf file directory |
| 08:56.08 | shad0w1e | archie, will that maintain dates and stuff? |
| 08:56.15 | Guerin | shad0w1e: man tar |
| 08:56.48 | archie | shad0w1e, not sure.. espcecially issues with symbolic links |
| 08:57.11 | shad0w1e | okay I need to tar up a system, send it to someone, and untar it back on their end |
| 08:57.49 | shad0w1e | so im gonna need to maintain symlinks |
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| 08:58.42 | Guerin | shad0w1e: rtfm |
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| 08:59.24 | Guerin | shad0w1e: this is your responsibility; you need to make sure you do it right. You can't expect us to tell you what to do, and then blame us when it doesn't work how YOU want it to. |
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| 08:59.41 | nuxien | hello, do you speack french? |
| 08:59.54 | npx | #debian-fr |
| 08:59.56 | shad0w1e | sure, of course, I wasn't planning on, I just thought that someone knows how to archive up a system |
| 08:59.58 | nuxien | thx |
| 08:59.59 | Guerin | nuxien: the people in #debian-fr do |
| 09:00.00 | npx | np |
| 09:00.07 | Guerin | shad0w1e: man tar knows |
| 09:00.09 | npx | hey guerin |
| 09:00.13 | npx | how's life? |
| 09:00.15 | shad0w1e | Guerin, lol |
| 09:00.39 | archie | shad0w1e, don't know exactly.. i would have to try.. |
| 09:00.39 | Guerin | npx: better and better. |
| 09:00.45 | sts9 | does debian use an .Xdefaults file? cause I tried creating one for use with aterm in my home folder but not seeing any of my configurations applied |
| 09:00.47 | npx | congrats |
| 09:01.08 | Guerin | npx: I've got one week's work left in the forseeable future and will be a homeless bum in 40 days |
| 09:01.18 | npx | ouch |
| 09:01.23 | npx | you'll get another job |
| 09:01.39 | Guerin | shad0w1e: it uses .[Xx]{defaults,resources} |
| 09:01.44 | Guerin | npx: don't want one. |
| 09:01.51 | Guerin | i'm serious, it's great. |
| 09:01.54 | npx | hahah |
| 09:01.57 | npx | office space style |
| 09:02.02 | npx | rock on, then |
| 09:02.03 | shad0w1e | okay How do I gzip and tar in one shot? |
| 09:02.04 | Guerin | http://rt2k6.feayn.org |
| 09:02.06 | archie | shad0w1e, in some file system you could have specific tools for this |
| 09:02.10 | npx | I wouldn't want a job working with computers |
| 09:02.14 | Guerin | !mansmite shad0w1e |
| 09:02.26 | shad0w1e | hahaha |
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| 09:02.33 | shad0w1e | you know I looked in man before coming here, |
| 09:02.38 | shad0w1e | but I failed to notice the "v" switch |
| 09:02.38 | Guerin | shad0w1e: look again |
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| 09:03.10 | archie | shad0w1e, czf or cjf option.. j for bzip and z for gzip |
| 09:03.18 | Guerin | sts9: sorry, the above re xresources was for you |
| 09:03.24 | shad0w1e | archie, thanx |
| 09:03.54 | shad0w1e | what makes a smaller file? gz or bz? |
| 09:04.03 | Guerin | shad0w1e: bz, but is much slower |
| 09:04.04 | shad0w1e | My guess would be bzip2, no? |
| 09:04.19 | archie | shad0w1e, bz |
| 09:04.24 | shad0w1e | well its probably worth it if I'm sending it through the internet... |
| 09:04.52 | shad0w1e | are we talking significantly smaller, when archiving up an entire linux system? (thats only 500mb, btw) |
| 09:04.56 | sts9 | Guerin: so >xdefaults should work. now I need to figure out why it doesnt. thanks |
| 09:04.57 | tyler_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:05.13 | sts9 | Guerin: .Xdefaults I mean |
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| 09:05.17 | beardy | shad0w1e: Depends on the data, but yes, bzip2 compresses quite much better. |
| 09:05.26 | Guerin | sts9: it might not work if there's nother file which matches the glob above |
| 09:05.29 | Yokalosh | n00b question: how do you exit gnome? |
| 09:05.42 | Guerin | Yokalosh: click the 'exit' or 'logout' button |
| 09:05.42 | shad0w1e | baerdy, okay, thanks... I'm gonna be uncompressing it onto a Cyrix MII-300. Hope it doesnt take six weeks |
| 09:05.47 | beardy | Yokalosh: The menu has some exit thing to click on? |
| 09:06.06 | TriKster-Abacus | bzip2 if that is what you are using, takes up your processor and it takes a lot longer to compress, but like a tar.bz2 file is usually much smaller.. just takes longer to compress |
| 09:06.07 | Guerin | tyler_: sure. |
| 09:06.16 | Yokalosh | hmm |
| 09:06.20 | nuxien | erf, french are dead |
| 09:06.22 | Yokalosh | i dont wanna shut down though |
| 09:06.38 | beardy | Yokalosh: What do you want then? |
| 09:06.39 | TriKster-Abacus | you want to kill gdm? |
| 09:06.44 | sts9 | Guerin: no other files that match that expression. at least not in ~ |
| 09:06.46 | Guerin | Yokalosh: logout isn't the same as shut down |
| 09:06.48 | archie | shad0w1e, have a look on shis worth it usually.. |
| 09:06.51 | Yokalosh | sorry |
| 09:06.55 | Yokalosh | yeh i wanna kill gdm |
| 09:06.57 | shad0w1e | heh thanks!' |
| 09:06.58 | Yokalosh | oops :$ |
| 09:07.07 | TriKster-Abacus | go to a terminal CTRL+ALT+F[2,3,4,5] and killall gdm |
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| 09:07.10 | EdLin | Yokalosh: /etc/init.d/gdm stop |
| 09:07.10 | Guerin | sts9: funky. run xrdb -merge? |
| 09:07.15 | beardy | Yokalosh: '/etc/init.d/gdm stop' to stop gdm |
| 09:07.21 | TriKster-Abacus | or that |
| 09:07.24 | Yokalosh | cheers :) |
| 09:09.03 | TriKster-Abacus | wow, electricsheep is showing some good gfx tonight |
| 09:09.17 | TriKster-Abacus | wonder what my computer looks like in a dream state, to other people's computers |
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| 09:11.09 | sts9 | Guerin: whats that supposed to do? hmmm loking at the -query I see a bunch of resources commands are set. where are these from? global? cause I didnt have anything matching that exression in my home dir. just installed the system 2 days ago |
| 09:12.04 | sts9 | Guerin: I even see some for xterm |
| 09:12.20 | sts9 | Guerin: which would be loaded for aterm also |
| 09:12.29 | sts9 | Guerin: from what I usnderstand |
| 09:13.01 | liable | wtf |
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| 09:13.24 | shad0w1e | I had an interesting problem when installing Debian 64 on my nforce ethernet. It didn't seem to be able to connect to the net, though the addresses were all right on eth0, and it picked up my MAC address correctly. is this a known compatability issue with some nforce controllers? |
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| 09:14.25 | shad0w1e | It seemed to happen with other distributions as well. I am yet to get this controller working on linux! |
| 09:14.36 | archie | shad0w1e, tcpdump -eni eth0 |
| 09:14.45 | Guerin | sts9: there are global xresource files in /etc/X11/ or somesuch. xrdb -merge takes all available xresources files and merges them |
| 09:14.50 | shad0w1e | is tcpdump on the network install cd? |
| 09:14.59 | apikoros | hey guys. i just switched from slackware, so i'm not totally in tune with apt. i got sick of firefox 1.0.whatever so i downloaded 1.5 and dumped the binaries on top my current install, without consulting apt in anyway -- which ticked it off royally, for it has now condemned me to firefox hell -- now that i've apt dist-upgrade it failed on firefox, and i can no longer run firefox, nor can i remove the package! any ideas? |
| 09:15.07 | Guerin | sts9: i have xrdb -merge in my xinitrc to ensure that any changes I make are picked up when next I start x |
| 09:15.08 | archie | shad0w1e, i don't know, i suppose it is not.. |
| 09:15.28 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 09:15.28 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of rutabagas, a little sauerkraut, and a handful of sex-crazed ostriches. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 09:16.07 | EdLin | got it this time. ;) |
| 09:16.37 | Guerin | sts9: nforce is shit |
| 09:16.39 | Guerin | bah |
| 09:16.42 | Guerin | shad0w1e: nforce is shit |
| 09:16.48 | Guerin | shad0w1e: get a real network card |
| 09:17.13 | Yokalosh | LOL |
| 09:17.19 | archie | shad0w1e, i have a nforce2 in here |
| 09:17.23 | Guerin | !onboard |
| 09:17.23 | dpkg | All onboard sound, video, raid, network and modem cards suck great big donkey balls, and there's nothing you can do about it. unless your time is worth nothing, give up and buy a real card. This goes triple for raid. see tardware |
| 09:17.55 | shad0w1e | If I "TAR" with the bzip2 option, is it zipping as it adds files, or does it zip everything in the end? |
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| 09:18.25 | archie | shad0w1e, or get windows.. less hassle, and less masochist fun |
| 09:18.26 | shad0w1e | archie, I have nforce 410 |
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| 09:18.36 | Yokalosh | My NVIDIA driver installer just told me i need to install the source for my kernel... what does this mean and how is it done? |
| 09:18.42 | archie | shad0w1e, :) well hmm.. not really mine.. |
| 09:18.44 | shad0w1e | my last board worked like a charm.. this one is hell! |
| 09:18.58 | shad0w1e | this is new though. I figure in a kernel or two, itll all be sorted out |
| 09:19.11 | EdLin | shad0w1e: it uses a pipe to zip the entire package at once, not for individual files, but not at the end either. |
| 09:19.13 | sts9 | Guerin: nforce? the chipset? |
| 09:19.36 | sts9 | Guerin: oh ok that was for someone else. ;) |
| 09:19.43 | shad0w1e | EdLin, because I'm watching my zip file grow right now, I'm trying to figure out if its zipping now, or zipping later |
| 09:19.50 | archie | shad0w1e, usually i do expect to see good drivers after 6 month or 1 year on linux, since product are sold, especially cheap one.. |
| 09:20.01 | EdLin | shad0w1e: it's in a pipe - not later |
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| 09:20.18 | shad0w1e | EdLin, thats' right I did learn about pipes... |
| 09:20.21 | shad0w1e | thanks |
| 09:20.44 | EdLin | np |
| 09:20.59 | sts9 | Guerin: so basically the .Xdefaults isnt read by programs when they start, its read by X when it starts. and when I make changes I need to reastart X or is there some program that rereads my configs without restarting? |
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| 09:21.17 | FarrisG | are there any semi-safe sources for 2.6.15 debian kernel images yet? |
| 09:21.35 | EdLin | sts9: you can run xrdb -merge .Xdefaults while you're runinng X and the changes will take |
| 09:21.59 | archie | shad0w1e, ways to figure out, badly.. i modprobe as much modules as i can.. and see if any register and acknowledge device availability.. pretty bad way.. but mine, since slackware time, and the like |
| 09:22.13 | crypt_ex | Anyone recommend a GUI FTP client, sorta like FileZilla for Debian? |
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| 09:22.37 | FarrisG | crypt_ex: gftp |
| 09:22.38 | EdLin | crypt_ex: gftp is graphical |
| 09:22.43 | crypt_ex | ta |
| 09:23.13 | Guerin | sts9: it's not even read by x when it starts. It's read when you merge the X Resource Data Base, with xrdb -merge |
| 09:23.18 | shad0w1e | auch |
| 09:23.27 | sts9 | Guerin: ahhh! the plot thickens.... thanks. that worked |
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| 09:24.45 | shad0w1e | WOW!! A 550mb install just zipped up to 179MB ! |
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| 09:25.49 | sts9 | Guerin: so just add xrdb -merge .Xdefaults after exec startkde right? |
| 09:25.59 | sts9 | EdLin: thanks |
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| 09:26.32 | Guerin | sts9: or before; anytime is fine |
| 09:26.44 | sts9 | Guerin: ok thanks |
| 09:26.50 | Guerin | in fact, your windowmanager should be the last thing to run |
| 09:27.08 | AnAnt | does the Debian DVDs also contain non-GPL software ? like Adobe Acrobat Reader, RealPlayer,...? |
| 09:27.24 | liable | no |
| 09:27.35 | ThomasAH | AnAnt: 1. Yes, 2. No |
| 09:27.42 | EdLin | !tell AnAnt about marillat |
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| 09:27.52 | Guerin | AnAnt: it contains plenty of non-gpl software, but no non-free software |
| 09:27.55 | ThomasAH | AnAnt: non-GPL is ok, but non-free is not |
| 09:28.05 | AnAnt | meaning what ? |
| 09:28.08 | AnAnt | what is non-free ? |
| 09:28.18 | Guerin | AnAnt: meaning that there are free oftware licenses which aren't the gpl |
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| 09:28.25 | Guerin | !tell AnAnt about free software |
| 09:28.31 | AnAnt | ok |
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| 09:29.34 | xantian | good morning |
| 09:29.43 | xantian | :P |
| 09:30.04 | AnAnt | so Adobe & so are considered non-free I guess since they aren't open-source, right? |
| 09:32.18 | ThomasAH | AnAnt: correct, though not every open-source license complies with the DFSG (that what defines what is free and what non-free), just like not every Free Software (or open source) license is GPL compatible |
| 09:32.20 | Guerin | AnAnt: open source is a requirement for software freedom, but a program can be open source and still not free. |
| 09:32.44 | Yokalosh | like limewire i guess |
| 09:32.52 | Guerin | lamewire |
| 09:32.59 | Yokalosh | haha yeh |
| 09:33.03 | Guerin | limewire is free software, or at least it was |
| 09:33.03 | zyros | its all about nicotine |
| 09:33.19 | Yokalosh | limewire is free but the pro version which really isnt any different isnt free |
| 09:33.27 | Guerin | oh, bfd |
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| 09:33.42 | shad0w1e | okay, cya people, thanks for all the help! |
| 09:33.48 | Viper12 | as far as limewire, there is another package........frostwire. ;) |
| 09:33.58 | Yokalosh | lol |
| 09:34.02 | Guerin | the problem with lamewire is that it requires proprietary software to be of any use |
| 09:34.10 | Yokalosh | yeh |
| 09:34.16 | Yokalosh | java based apps suck i reckon |
| 09:34.22 | Yokalosh | for the most part |
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| 09:34.40 | Yokalosh | :P |
| 09:35.02 | Yokalosh | someone wanna develop a non java version of limewire? ;) |
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| 09:35.13 | cem_ | hi |
| 09:35.17 | Yokalosh | hey |
| 09:35.26 | cem_ | debian rules :p |
| 09:35.28 | archie | Guerin, could look like knowledge deposit... like history or anything else.. all brought for free, nearly the same as in schools ? |
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| 09:35.45 | Yokalosh | sure does |
| 09:35.51 | Guerin | archie: eh? |
| 09:36.05 | Guerin | Yokalosh: why bother, limewire is shit anyway |
| 09:36.19 | archie | Guerin, i commented on open source and benefice of gpl and the like |
| 09:36.32 | Yokalosh | Guerin: i guess |
| 09:36.39 | Yokalosh | i used irc or torrents now |
| 09:36.45 | Guerin | archie: yes, free software is a living software reference library, quite apart from being functional |
| 09:36.54 | Yokalosh | oh yeh i was gunna ask... is there any reason why /usr/src/linux doesnt exist and why i have no kernel sources? |
| 09:37.09 | Guerin | Yokalosh: because you didn't create it, and/or didn't install them |
| 09:37.16 | Yokalosh | oh |
| 09:37.17 | Guerin | Yokalosh: debian doesn't presume what you want. |
| 09:37.17 | Viper12 | as far as the 'wires' gpl version of limewire called frostwire would be the way to go. |
| 09:37.19 | Yokalosh | how do i do that? |
| 09:37.35 | archie | Guerin, this is why it will always be, mainly for programers and the like.. ? |
| 09:37.41 | Guerin | Yokalosh: apt-get install kernel-source-foo or linux-source-foo |
| 09:37.43 | zyros | whats the best torrent program for linux? |
| 09:37.51 | Guerin | archie: will it? |
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| 09:38.01 | Guerin | free software is for everyone |
| 09:38.07 | archie | Guerin, i think so, especially when you buy new products.. |
| 09:38.08 | Guerin | my mother uses debian |
| 09:38.13 | BlackJudas | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:38.16 | BlackJudas | heh |
| 09:38.23 | Yokalosh | zyros: i just used gnome bittorrent lol |
| 09:38.36 | Guerin | zyros: i recommend rtorrent |
| 09:38.46 | Yokalosh | on windows i use bitcomet but i find the new version (0.61) to be buggy |
| 09:38.51 | Guerin | zyros: failing that, the mainline client is almost tolerable |
| 09:38.53 | Viper12 | a question like zryos just asked is going to get as many answers as there are apps. |
| 09:39.03 | Yokalosh | haha true |
| 09:39.13 | archie | Guerin, sure.. it is.. :) except if you are not interested by computers.. you'll have much difficulty to get everything working at once.. which is not the case with commercial stuff |
| 09:39.17 | Guerin | bitcomet is shit; it doesn't handle peer to seed communication properly |
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| 09:39.26 | Guerin | plenty of networks ban all bitcomet users |
| 09:39.50 | AnAnt | k |
| 09:39.51 | Viper12 | although java based, I prefer Azureus for its feature set. See, several responses...several answers. best bet...google em' and make your own decision, better yet, try several and make up your own mind. |
| 09:40.06 | Guerin | archie: it depends if you buy quality hardware or the random shit that the tools in $computer_chain_store want to sell you because it's cheap and they can mark it up 200% |
| 09:40.36 | Guerin | hence my earlier comenf about nfarce |
| 09:40.48 | zyros | is there a package for rtorrent? |
| 09:41.02 | Guerin | zyros: in etch and sid, yeah. |
| 09:41.06 | beardy | zyros: Search, and if there is, you will find it. |
| 09:41.23 | zyros | the package search has been down for me |
| 09:41.29 | archie | Guerin, you said it.. not really for everyone.. those who can't afford to get pricey stuff.. either they know how to program drivers or they get something which have already drivers for their product |
| 09:41.33 | Guerin | zyros: apt-cache search rtorrent |
| 09:42.08 | Guerin | archie: bollocks, quality hardware doesn't cost *that* much more than shit hardware, particularly once you subtract the windows tax |
| 09:42.15 | beardy | archie: This is not 1997, there is support from alsmost every piece of crap hardware. |
| 09:42.25 | beardy | s/from/for/ |
| 09:42.45 | sifi-x | whats the diff between `foo` instead of $(foo) ? |
| 09:42.46 | zyros | Guerin, thanks |
| 09:43.01 | archie | Guerin, i use linux since 1995 and well i don't agree with you.. |
| 09:43.03 | sifi-x | whats the diff between `foo` and $(foo) ? |
| 09:43.07 | Guerin | sifi-x: the former is less readable |
| 09:43.07 | beardy | sifi-x: The former is deprecated, man bash. Other than that, nothing. |
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| 09:43.27 | beardy | !repeat |
| 09:43.27 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 09:43.27 | archie | beardy, plenty true.. but new stuff, new issues ? |
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| 09:43.41 | Guerin | archie: you're entitled to your opinion, even if it is wrong. |
| 09:43.44 | Yokalosh | heh, quality hardware costs 8 grand in the way of a mac :P |
| 09:43.53 | beardy | archie: New support for it. |
| 09:43.56 | Yokalosh | screw pc hardware, who wants that? its all shod |
| 09:43.58 | Guerin | haha, macs stopped being quality hardware about a decade ago |
| 09:44.04 | archie | Guerin, no it's not the same as yours, that's all it is |
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| 09:44.38 | Yokalosh | Guerin: nah mac will no longer be quality when all of them run intel processors :( |
| 09:44.56 | Guerin | Yokalosh: google 'logic board replacement' |
| 09:45.35 | Yokalosh | ? |
| 09:45.36 | archie | Guerin, my point is that.. if there were a kind of common API.. anyone would refer too for drivers.. they'll be no issues with linux or windows.. all products available on both, as soon as they will be sold |
| 09:46.04 | Viper12 | that's about as 'fud' a statement as I've read in awhile. One of the PRIMARY reasons mac is moving to intel hardware is the long in tooth architecture of ppc. The new macs in intel are being estimated at being 4-10 times faster machines than the BEST ppc architected hardware. |
| 09:46.05 | Guerin | archie: great idea! Now just get the hardware manufacturers and microsoft to agree to it. |
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| 09:46.25 | beardy | archie: In your mind you are only comparing one shitty os with all the others, which are a much greater number. The shitty os is big for some reason, hence all crapmanufacturers only makes sure it barelyruns on that. Nevertheless, most crap is supported elsewhere aswell, if you only go up one step from the crappiest hardware, you'll have small or no problems. |
| 09:46.29 | archie | beardy, yes.. and then you'll have to wait for 6 months.. at least or 1 year, until you can use your products on linux.. while drivers are there since the start on the 'other OS' |
| 09:47.01 | archie | Guerin, i think it should be enforce but gov, to promote competition.. |
| 09:47.06 | beardy | archie: Where is your contribution, start helping and wuit complaining. |
| 09:47.10 | beardy | quit |
| 09:47.12 | Yokalosh | Viper12: but everyone knows intel make the most crap processors |
| 09:47.15 | Guerin | archie: buy the second-newest, second-cheapest hardware, and you will experience few to no hardware problems. |
| 09:47.17 | Yokalosh | they could have at least used AMD |
| 09:47.25 | Guerin | archie: haha! |
| 09:47.47 | Guerin | governments interfering with how companies do business! You dirty commie! |
| 09:47.58 | Viper12 | most crap? intel m comes to mind as a contradiction to that statement. |
| 09:48.08 | Yokalosh | >< |
| 09:48.25 | Yokalosh | well really who gives a flying fuck... does anyone have the money in their pocket for a mac? |
| 09:48.35 | Yokalosh | :P |
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| 09:48.39 | Guerin | Yokalosh: steve jobs seems to think so |
| 09:48.43 | Yokalosh | ha |
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| 09:48.44 | Viper12 | sure do. just happen to like building my own box. |
| 09:48.56 | archie | Guerin, well i got used to buy pricey stuff, or nothing, as i got too much hassle with too many stuff.. and got enought to wait for so long until i could get a hand on what i bought.. that could be fun.. at the start.. but at the end.. well you see what i mean |
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| 09:49.34 | Yokalosh | Viper12: Stand and deliver! (i'm hijacking you for your mac money :p) |
| 09:49.34 | Viper12 | lol. |
| 09:49.34 | jeffrey_ | hello guys! can someone help me? I have a problem in libnewt0.51 |
| 09:49.38 | Guerin | Yokalosh: watch out, he'll shoot you with his iPistol |
| 09:49.42 | Viper12 | lmao |
| 09:50.09 | Guerin | jeffrey_: details |
| 09:50.22 | Yokalosh | hahaha |
| 09:50.30 | jeffrey_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:50.42 | archie | Guerin, it is not about the way the do business.; but how fair it would be ... both linux and windows.. would have the same API.. so competition would be fair, while nowadays.. it is not the case.. and windows event new specifications each time.. so that linux have much effort to do.. to get the new drivers.. not really fair, in my opinion.. |
| 09:50.48 | Guerin | jeffrey_: which branch of debian? |
| 09:50.49 | jeffrey_ | I cannot sudo apt-get install or remove package |
| 09:50.50 | Viper12 | I'm not on mac. Just spent a grand on a 24" widescreen lcd for my amd box. An "INTEL" -ohnooooes IBM E-server sits right next to that. and a compaq intel centrino laptop as well. If I DID buy a mac, it'd be debian or ubuntu getting slapped on it. ;) although osx is the shiz in its own right. |
| 09:50.56 | jeffrey_ | Ubuntu here |
| 09:51.04 | Guerin | jeffrey_: #ubuntu |
| 09:51.13 | beardy | Guerin: Everyone that doesn't agree that companies should have the right to do everything as they please is a "commie". |
| 09:51.16 | jeffrey_ | sorry, but I got no reply |
| 09:51.20 | beardy | archie: Life is not fair, get used to it. |
| 09:51.25 | jeffrey_ | so i tried here |
| 09:51.32 | Guerin | beardy: you're goddamn right about that, ppardner. |
| 09:51.40 | EdLin | !they don't know |
| 09:51.40 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 09:51.43 | Phated | ppardner |
| 09:51.49 | archie | beardy, i agree with you.. but laws, and regulations are here to help.. |
| 09:51.51 | Phated | ? is Guerin developing a stutter? |
| 09:51.53 | Guerin | Phated: ppiss ooff |
| 09:51.53 | beardy | Guerin: heh, no, a "?" was supposed to go after that. |
| 09:51.54 | Viper12 | jeffrey, ubuntu isn't a 'branch' of debian. its another distro BASED on debian. what they were asking is stable/unstable. sarge,woody,etch, sid, etc. |
| 09:52.00 | jeffrey_ | #ubuntu |
| 09:52.01 | Phated | Guerin: Heheh. |
| 09:52.03 | Guerin | my keyboard is fucked, this is old news |
| 09:52.10 | Guerin | i normally correct for it |
| 09:52.16 | Yokalosh | isn't ubuntu practically debian anyhow |
| 09:52.18 | Phated | All rright. |
| 09:52.20 | Phated | :) |
| 09:52.24 | Guerin | Yokalosh: no. |
| 09:52.30 | Guerin | it's practically ubuntu |
| 09:52.30 | Yokalosh | oki |
| 09:52.32 | Yokalosh | i was told it was |
| 09:52.43 | Guerin | it's as practically debian as a mazda is practically a ford |
| 09:52.51 | jeffrey_ | Ic... |
| 09:53.11 | Viper12 | ubuntu uses its own repositories which are based on debian unstable's....but it has moved in its own direction to a degree. |
| 09:53.23 | Yokalosh | kool |
| 09:53.29 | Viper12 | I use it. I like it. I also like the 'parent'...hence why I sit in here at times. ;) |
| 09:53.30 | Guerin | it's not binary-compatible and hasn't been for months |
| 09:53.37 | beardy | Guerin: "Everyone that doesn't agree that companies should have the right to do everything as they please is a "commie"??" Was what I meant, I do not agree with that. |
| 09:53.45 | jeffrey_ | i thought ubuntu is same as debian but different,, gui |
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| 09:53.58 | Guerin | when it became non-binary-compatible, I'd have thought all vestiges of the 'it's the same' argument would have dies |
| 09:54.01 | Guerin | died |
| 09:54.03 | archie | beardy, competition is good for business.. is good for jobs, is good for people.. enforce open driver API, would be good, for just all of that, don't you think ? |
| 09:54.18 | Guerin | beardy: SDNWOTI |
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| 09:54.41 | vl_bright_again | only fair competition |
| 09:54.44 | Guerin | archie: but what if someone develops a superior API? |
| 09:55.08 | Guerin | archie: that means that your requirement for 'competition' is causing technology to stagnate |
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| 09:55.36 | archie | Guerin, looks ok.. as long as customers can get a hand on their product. on other OSes.. |
| 09:55.42 | beardy | archie: Competition yes. But not what you just said, have you heard of "standards" and noticed how many there are, and that no one is following them. Even if that is what you want, it will not work, no I don't think so. |
| 09:56.08 | Guerin | archie: but if they couldn't use and market the superior api on their own terms, why would anyone bother to develop at superior api? |
| 09:56.20 | beardy | Guerin: wtf SDNWOTI? |
| 09:56.27 | Guerin | archie: the point is that artificial constraints on technology cause stagnation. |
| 09:56.29 | archie | Guerin, should be a minimum.. there is a difference between.. use a product as soon as you unpack it.. and use it 6 month later.. |
| 09:56.31 | Guerin | !sdnwoti |
| 09:56.46 | Guerin | !sdnwoti is Sarcasm Does Not Work On The Internet |
| 09:56.46 | dpkg | okay, Guerin |
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| 09:56.57 | archie | beardy, yes.. it is the role of standard.. |
| 09:57.10 | Guerin | archie: wtf? |
| 09:57.39 | jeffrey_ | @Viper12 |
| 09:57.55 | beardy | Guerin: So, were you sarcastic, or are you saying I was? (it only confuses things :) ) |
| 09:58.00 | jeffrey_ | @Viper12 - my message is blocked? |
| 09:58.21 | Guerin | beardy: I was being. |
| 09:58.24 | archie | Guerin, not sure.. they'll be done differently. maybe jsut like you mention.. more efficient API(s) and the like.. you are prevent to driver your car at 100mph.. but your car can be improved in plenty of other ways;.. |
| 09:58.36 | Guerin | jeffrey_: register with nickserv |
| 09:58.46 | Yokalosh | did anyone hear about Microsofts little fine? |
| 09:58.54 | beardy | Guerin: heh, I guess I swallowed that one.. :) |
| 09:58.57 | jeffrey_ | ah ic |
| 09:59.05 | archie | Guerin, this is just all done.. that it wouldn't harm somebody else.. while you may driver at 100mph.. same could apply with this open soruce API ? |
| 09:59.08 | Guerin | archie: you're not prevented from doing so. You're cautioned not to, and in some cases there are consequences for doing so. but it's possible. |
| 09:59.14 | Viper12 | that'd do it jeffrey. |
| 09:59.15 | EdLin | Yokalosh: any fine is little when your yearly revenue is in the tens of Billions |
| 09:59.31 | Guerin | yeh |
| 09:59.33 | sjaakz0r | does anyone here know if there's a program for linux which can find out the exact frequency's off telvision by itself...sort of autotune ? |
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| 09:59.43 | Guerin | they got fined in Korea as well, though you won't have heard of it |
| 09:59.52 | Guerin | only $32 million |
| 09:59.56 | Yokalosh | Consumer groups have applauded the European Commission's decision to hit Microsoft with a 497m euro fine and force it to disclose software secrets. |
| 10:00.11 | Guerin | about an hour's worth of interest |
| 10:00.25 | Yokalosh | Analysts and industry executives said it was less about the 497m euros ($613m; £331m) Microsoft has to pay and more about the fact it will have to hand over key elements of its programming. |
| 10:00.30 | Guerin | Yokalosh: you realise we all have google news as well? |
| 10:00.38 | Yokalosh | lol sorry |
| 10:00.44 | Yokalosh | was saving you the effort ;) |
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| 10:00.52 | beardy | sjaakz0r: For a tvcard or what do you mean? How hard is it to spend five minutes to tune some channels? |
| 10:00.54 | Yokalosh | i'm nice like that, no need to thank me |
| 10:00.58 | Yokalosh | :P |
| 10:01.09 | sjaakz0r | beardy it's kind ahard because I have to tune like 40 channels |
| 10:01.24 | sjaakz0r | while I know the frequency''s but I don't knw which way to finetune them |
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| 10:03.31 | archie | sjaakz0r, you may need to get a conf file.; for the program you gonna use to get tv .. |
| 10:03.32 | Yokalosh | any way to get zone alarm to work with some other firewall? |
| 10:03.37 | sunkan | I want to create a fake package to make depends happy, I have another package that provides the libraries needed. How can I create this "fake" package? |
| 10:03.38 | Yokalosh | zone alarm is funny with ICS |
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| 10:04.31 | archie | sunkan, you could enforce '-f' |
| 10:04.33 | beardy | Yokalosh: Why are you asking questions about a proprietary program that runs on windows here? |
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| 10:05.22 | archie | sunkan, dpkg --force-all ( not really commended but..) |
| 10:05.25 | sunkan | archie: I have already got to the state I want, now I just want aptitude to be happy.. Otherwise it wants to remove the package that it thinks is broken. |
| 10:05.28 | Guerin | !foce-all |
| 10:05.30 | Yokalosh | because it doesnt work with debian and i was asking how i can get it to work with debian.... |
| 10:05.31 | Guerin | !force-all |
| 10:05.31 | dpkg | force-all means you're working against the packaging system, not with it. Sometimes packages are broken and it's necessary, but almost always it means you're doing something wrong, and are setting yourself up for bigger problems down the line. YOU NEVER NEED TO USE --force-all. EVER. You might think you do, but YOU DO NOT. Don't fucking use it. |
| 10:05.50 | Guerin | sunkan: use equivs |
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| 10:06.31 | archie | Guerin, :) |
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| 10:06.43 | Guerin | Yokalosh: no idea. Ask #windows or someone. |
| 10:06.53 | Yokalosh | ok :) |
| 10:06.54 | sunkan | Guerin: Thanks, that is probably what I want.. |
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| 10:12.10 | sjaakz0r | archie isn't there some autotune just so I can write down the exact frequenty's? |
| 10:12.36 | FarrisG | are there any semi-safe sources for 2.6.15 debian kernel images yet, or is that still very shaky ground? |
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| 10:13.17 | archie | sjaakz0r, i don't exaclty know for you.. on my own i have a dvb card.. and there is a channel conf with it.. otherwise i could use a dvbscan.. but i stick with the channel conf.. easier |
| 10:13.30 | Mortal | i cant read man pages , they arent decompressing. anyone seen this? |
| 10:13.43 | beardy | Mortal: What are you running? |
| 10:14.13 | Mortal | beardy, testing |
| 10:14.36 | archie | sjaakz0r, i bet you may google for the appropriate conf file for the soft you intend to use.. might already one available in /usr/share/doc/whateversoftwareyouuse |
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| 10:15.21 | beardy | Mortal: Since when are they not decompressing? |
| 10:16.17 | beardy | Mortal: Have you done an update/upgrade recently? Were they decompressing before? |
| 10:16.37 | Mortal | beardy, yeah , man used to work |
| 10:16.52 | archie | Mortal, mandb ? |
| 10:17.28 | beardy | Mortal: And what have you done since it worked last time? |
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| 10:19.06 | Mortal | beardy, im not very certain about what has caused it , i havent actually used man for a while |
| 10:19.26 | archie | Mortal, is mandb working ? |
| 10:19.32 | archie | Mortal, if you run it ? |
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| 10:19.45 | Mortal | archie, ill check it out |
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| 10:20.18 | beardy | Mortal: Is gzip installed? (strange it it isn't though) |
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| 10:20.40 | Mortal | beardy, zless works |
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| 10:24.02 | unlearn | hello what is a good program to open rar files? |
| 10:24.13 | liable | unrar |
| 10:24.20 | liable | !unrar |
| 10:24.21 | dpkg | unrar is, like, a non-free package and a command used to extract .rar archives, or ask me about unrar-free |
| 10:24.27 | unlearn | k |
| 10:24.37 | unlearn | i can install it using apt? |
| 10:24.54 | liable | unlearn: its in non-free |
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| 10:24.59 | liable | !unrar-free |
| 10:25.00 | dpkg | somebody said unrar-free was an unarchiver for .rar files that can't handle archives in the RAR 3.0 format, which is by far the most used RAR format (ask me about unrar for 3.0). in main unstable |
| 10:25.14 | beardy | unlearn: So it depends on you. |
| 10:25.22 | unlearn | k |
| 10:25.29 | beardy | !tell unlearn -about non-free |
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| 10:26.51 | lunalander | Hi folks, I'm having trouble to set up multiple ip adresses on a woody box... anyone can help? |
| 10:27.05 | Stork | what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ? this is an ubuntu question but no one there is answering me |
| 10:27.06 | beardy | lunalander: The reason you are running woody is? |
| 10:27.18 | beardy | !they don't know |
| 10:27.18 | dpkg | Just because the people in some OTHER channel don't know the answer to your non-Debian question, it does NOT give you the right to hassle US with your problems. Go try Google. |
| 10:27.26 | beardy | !runatboot |
| 10:27.30 | lunalander | beardy: It there for a while ;) |
| 10:27.51 | Stork | orly? |
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| 10:28.17 | beardy | !run at boot |
| 10:28.17 | dpkg | To run something at boot, either use an @reboot cronjob (man 5 crontab). Or ask me about "update-rc.d" and "rcconf". |
| 10:29.03 | beardy | lunalander: ? |
| 10:29.13 | lunalander | beardy: yes ? |
| 10:29.33 | beardy | lunalander: I don't understand what you just said, why are you running woody? |
| 10:30.01 | buu | Anyone know how I can find out how much power a sata drive uses? |
| 10:30.02 | lunalander | beardy: well I don't want to rebuild the machine because it is heavily loaded |
| 10:30.31 | paivakil | lunalander: man ifconfig |
| 10:30.43 | unlearn | how can i change a file extension in debian? |
| 10:30.53 | poncha|laptop | is it possible to switch MTA *purging* the configs of old one? i.e. i want to replace exim with postfix but i dont want exim to leave traces behind |
| 10:30.54 | beardy | no |
| 10:31.11 | beardy | !tell lunalander -about interfaces |
| 10:31.14 | paivakil | unlearn: rename the file |
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| 10:31.20 | lunalander | beardy: I tried to change the /etc/network/interfaces file with no success |
| 10:31.22 | poncha|laptop | cause if i just remove exim first, it also removes all packages depending on mta existance |
| 10:31.22 | beardy | lunalander: consider upgrading to sarge when you can |
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| 10:31.32 | unlearn | k |
| 10:31.33 | beardy | lunalander: man 5 interfaces |
| 10:31.39 | paivakil | poncha|laptop: dpkg --purge <appname> |
| 10:31.49 | EdLin | unlearn: if you're trying to make something executable or not, or for a program or not (in general) the name doesn't matter. |
| 10:31.52 | poncha|laptop | paivakil, even if it is not installed ? |
| 10:32.31 | lunalander | beardy: Do i need IP Aliasing in the kernel for that on woody? |
| 10:32.50 | beardy | unlearn: extensions are only part of the name, name the file whatever you want. Extensions (.something) is only used to describe what a file is, it's good, but not at all necessary to call textfiles .txt, tar files .tar and so on. |
| 10:32.51 | paivakil | poncha|laptop: ?? |
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| 10:33.23 | unlearn | i understand |
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| 10:33.33 | paivakil | poncha|laptop: install the postfix and then do dpkg --purge exim |
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| 10:34.14 | poncha|laptop | paivakil, thanks.. got it ;) (thats exactly what i've asked - if i can purge it after it's not "ii") :) |
| 10:34.14 | beardy | lunalander: I don't know. But it sounds like something that could be needed yes. |
| 10:34.38 | lunalander | :( |
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| 10:35.15 | paivakil | poncha|laptop: if you want a custom build, youcan make your own exim package and install it as exim4-poncha|server, if you want |
| 10:36.09 | unlearn | what about renaming folders? |
| 10:36.18 | beardy | !folder |
| 10:36.18 | dpkg | folder is a directory damn it! near My Computer and Network Neighborhood... or the things you put in a filing cabinet. IMAP protocol's mailboxes. |
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| 10:36.29 | beardy | unlearn: Just rename them same way as files. |
| 10:36.52 | unlearn | ok |
| 10:37.15 | paivakil | unlearn: `mv oldname newname` |
| 10:37.15 | beardy | unlearn: Everything is a file. |
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| 10:37.26 | kml | i need install gnomemeeting in my debian sid , but show error gnomemeeting: Depende: libebook1.2-3 (>= 1.2.3) but not is installable |
| 10:37.36 | kml | any aswer |
| 10:37.39 | kml | any answer |
| 10:38.05 | unlearn | k |
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| 10:38.15 | beardy | kml: Checked the bts? |
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| 10:39.41 | kml | bts ? |
| 10:39.43 | beardy | !btssmite kml |
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| 10:40.22 | paulswm | Nothing like the sound of dpkg's chainsaw first thing in the morning |
| 10:40.27 | kml | ok thanks |
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| 10:40.57 | ootput | can anyone recommend a good debootstrap installation guide? |
| 10:41.00 | sifi-x | !tell kml about bts |
| 10:41.22 | beardy | ootput: /msg dpkg debootstrap |
| 10:41.44 | sifi-x | !tell ootput about debootstrap |
| 10:41.59 | beardy | ... |
| 10:42.03 | ootput | i've done that |
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| 10:42.10 | ootput | beardy. it's not too informative |
| 10:42.22 | Viper12 | but it is funny. ;) |
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| 10:42.48 | ootput | perhaps you should take a look |
| 10:43.06 | beardy | ootput: /msg dpkg reference, /msg dpkg ig |
| 10:43.24 | Florian-T | hi all, i have a little problem with dsl and sarge |
| 10:43.34 | sifi-x | Florian-T, what about it |
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| 10:43.57 | Florian-T | if i start the computer a dsl connection will be made |
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| 10:44.12 | sifi-x | Florian-T, thats not a problem |
| 10:44.20 | Florian-T | yes |
| 10:44.22 | Florian-T | but |
| 10:44.27 | beardy | !enter |
| 10:44.27 | dpkg | The enter key or carriage return key is not a substitute for punctuation. Use a period '.', comma ',', colon ':', semi-colon ';' emdash '---', or ellipsis '...' instead. Please don't just hit enter after every three words: it's really annoying, because it scrolls everyone's screens, and makes it harder to help you out (since we have to piece together what you're saying). |
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| 10:45.01 | Florian-T | if i run base-config to add additional apt sources everything is different |
| 10:45.02 | belkin | hi all |
| 10:45.25 | belkin | i have a fresh install of debian sarge and my colours and resolution isnt right |
| 10:45.44 | beardy | belkin: Where? |
| 10:45.44 | Florian-T | it tries to get the packages.gz from the net and hangs up connection |
| 10:45.50 | paivakil | belkin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg |
| 10:45.53 | belkin | i cannot even see the "X close button " from a window any ideea ? |
| 10:46.04 | beardy | paivakil: no |
| 10:46.13 | beardy | !drxx belkin |
| 10:46.14 | dpkg | belkin: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] (as root). If you have edited the X config file by hand, or used some other program like xf86config, ask me about <xmd5> |
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| 10:46.31 | belkin | beardy what would be better ? |
| 10:46.39 | sifi-x | Florian-T, hmm, I guess your internet connection is wrong then |
| 10:46.42 | Cobain | im trying to install DBD-MySQL and i get "Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 76." but i've got libdbd-mysql-perl installed.. |
| 10:46.56 | Florian-T | put it works |
| 10:46.59 | belkin | beardy xserver-xorg or xserver-xfree86 ? |
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| 10:47.03 | Florian-T | i can ping |
| 10:47.15 | paivakil | belkin: xserver-xfree86 |
| 10:47.17 | beardy | belkin: the one you are running, should be xserver-xfree86 |
| 10:47.22 | Florian-T | download starts at all, but hangs at 60% |
| 10:47.29 | sifi-x | Florian-T, then I don't know, try to run apt-get update |
| 10:47.37 | sifi-x | Florian-T, ah |
| 10:47.42 | Florian-T | :) that is what base-config does |
| 10:47.45 | paivakil | belkin: make sure you have the manual of your monitor handy - you need the horizontal and vertical sync rates |
| 10:47.57 | sifi-x | Florian-T, base configuration as it says |
| 10:48.14 | Florian-T | yes |
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| 10:48.19 | beardy | belkin: And if you have no manual for it, try google with the manufactuer, model and so on. |
| 10:48.20 | sifi-x | Florian-T, you can do "apt-setup" instead if your'e unsure about you repositores |
| 10:48.34 | schippes | under debian, kernel 2.6 can i create a file under /etc/modprobe.d to set options for a particuar kernel module ? do i need to run some script afterwards ? or just need to create the file and i am done ? |
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| 10:48.43 | Florian-T | ok, but that doesn't solve the problem |
| 10:48.43 | sifi-x | Florian-T, or just edit /etc/apt/sources.list as you should |
| 10:48.51 | Florian-T | yes i know that |
| 10:49.00 | sifi-x | Florian-T, I know, just trying to explain |
| 10:49.05 | Florian-T | the problem is a bit deeper |
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| 10:49.22 | belkin | beardy thank you |
| 10:49.25 | sifi-x | Florian-T, well, its hard for us to answer you Q without any output |
| 10:49.29 | belkin | paivakil thanks |
| 10:49.31 | beardy | belkin: np |
| 10:49.46 | Eulex | Florian-T, does it hang when downloading just with apt-get update or when downloading other stuff too? |
| 10:49.58 | Eulex | Florian-T, can you browse the web from it? |
| 10:50.05 | Florian-T | the dsl connection breaks. if i am doing plog it says, that the modem hang up |
| 10:50.09 | sifi-x | Eulex, he can ping |
| 10:50.25 | sifi-x | Eulex, he is using PPPoE |
| 10:50.33 | Florian-T | that is after about one or two megs of data |
| 10:50.45 | Florian-T | then connection is dead |
| 10:50.53 | sifi-x | Florian-T, are you behind NAT |
| 10:50.57 | Florian-T | no |
| 10:51.09 | Florian-T | i connected modem directly to the nic |
| 10:51.21 | sifi-x | Florian-T, are you using pppoeconf |
| 10:51.25 | Florian-T | yes |
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| 10:51.42 | Florian-T | i used default values |
| 10:52.01 | belkin | beardy horizontal frequencies this is it ? |
| 10:52.19 | belkin | o0 to 80 KHz |
| 10:52.23 | Florian-T | after hangup i even cannot detect my dsl modem |
| 10:52.26 | belkin | 30 to 80 |
| 10:52.42 | Florian-T | pppoeconf runs into timeout |
| 10:52.43 | sifi-x | Florian-T, ok, I cant say more then that myself had problems with PPPoE in the very begining |
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| 10:53.13 | Florian-T | ah, ic. and how did you solve them? |
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| 10:53.24 | sifi-x | Florian-T, reboot, reinstall in worst case that solved my problem |
| 10:53.34 | belkin | paivakil Please select your desired default color depth in bits 24 ? |
| 10:53.35 | sifi-x | Florian-T, but I couldn't even ping so |
| 10:54.01 | beardy | belkin: yes |
| 10:54.08 | paivakil | belkin: ? |
| 10:54.11 | sifi-x | Florian-T, pppoeconf configured the worin the wrong NIC |
| 10:54.15 | Florian-T | that is funny, my connection works about 1meg and then i cannot ping anymore |
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| 10:54.30 | Florian-T | even detection doesnt work |
| 10:54.30 | sifi-x | Florian-T, s/the worin the wrong NIC/the wrong NIC/ |
| 10:54.31 | paivakil | Florian-T: problem with isp? |
| 10:54.40 | Eulex | belkin, if your gfx card does 24 bit graphics, then select 24 bit. if it's not ancient it should. |
| 10:54.43 | Florian-T | dunno if it is the isp |
| 10:54.58 | belkin | Eulex ok |
| 10:55.00 | Florian-T | atm. i'm surfing using my linksys dsl router |
| 10:55.02 | sifi-x | Florian-T, they you know the trigger at least, be happy about it |
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| 10:55.51 | Florian-T | could there be a problem in the PPPoE driver? |
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| 10:55.59 | sifi-x | Florian-T, the dont support Linux most of the times, they will prolly only answer you if the connection is up or down |
| 10:56.11 | Florian-T | :) |
| 10:56.15 | Florian-T | i know |
| 10:56.22 | sifi-x | Florian-T, dont think so, then you shouldt even be able to ping |
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| 10:56.50 | Florian-T | hmm, but pppoe is a complex sequence |
| 10:57.03 | Florian-T | my linksysrouter uses linux too |
| 10:57.12 | sifi-x | Florian-T, why is your connection being killed after 1MB, do you have a download limitation |
| 10:57.17 | paivakil | Florian-T: try changing the mtu |
| 10:57.35 | Florian-T | mtu to which value? |
| 10:57.45 | Cobain | im trying to install DBD-MySQL and i get "Can't exec "mysql_config": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 76." but i've got libdbd-mysql-perl installed.. |
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| 10:58.11 | sifi-x | !tell Cobain about confmiss |
| 10:58.21 | liable | ?? |
| 10:58.41 | Eulex | sifi-x, umh, it's not a config file |
| 10:58.49 | sifi-x | right =) |
| 10:58.52 | Florian-T | paivakil: which mtu value do you suggest? |
| 10:58.52 | Cobain | =) |
| 10:59.25 | Cobain | so any ideas on why mysql_config isnt being provided? |
| 10:59.27 | sifi-x | Florian-T I just know that the mtu value should be different if youre behind a firewall |
| 10:59.37 | Cobain | i wish packages was still around |
| 10:59.37 | Eulex | Cobain, look in libmysqlclient10-dev, libmysqlclient12-dev, libmysqlclient14-dev or libmysqlclient15-dev, depending on what version you need. |
| 11:00.22 | Florian-T | ok, i'm trying to play with the MTU value |
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| 11:00.27 | liable | Cobain: apt-file is your friend |
| 11:00.30 | Florian-T | maybe that solves |
| 11:00.52 | Florian-T | thanks for the help! |
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| 11:01.13 | atax | hello |
| 11:01.35 | sifi-x | Florian-T, read the man page for pppoeconf its in there |
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| 11:03.26 | iostream | Hi.. How does one control what IP is used as 'default' when using networked programs on a machine with multiple ip's? (It seems that the ip from the interface last brought up is used, but this is not too convenient...) |
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| 11:05.01 | sdschulze | Setting up keyboard layouts in GNOME stopped working after the latest upgrade on sid. |
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| 11:06.28 | Eulex | sdschulze, check the bts |
| 11:06.28 | sifi-x | iostream, echo $(lynx --dump http://whatismyip.org) is that what you want? |
| 11:06.43 | sdschulze | iostream: Could you be a bit more specific about the context? |
| 11:07.51 | sdschulze | If everything is set up correctly, the respective IP address should be used dependent on where the packets go. |
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| 11:09.10 | iostream | sdschulze, sifi-x: Let's say its a machine with 2 different IP-addresses, each IP-addr. resolves to a different hostname. Now if I connect to for example IRC, the hostname from the IP last brough up is used.. How can I configure this behaviour? I know about binding servicse to IP's/hostnames (e.g. apache), but not all programs support that.. E.g. IRC-clients etc.. |
| 11:09.17 | crypt_ex | To be able to mount nfs partitions, do I need anything installed, or can I just add the line to the fstab file and mount -all? |
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| 11:09.43 | iostream | Sorry about my bad spelling/english. |
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| 11:10.59 | sifi-x | iostream, are you behind NAT with the boxes? |
| 11:11.27 | iostream | sifi-x: No, it has nothing to do with that. It's two public IP-addresses. |
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| 11:11.53 | sifi-x | iostream, I have never used that so I sorry, I cannot answer your Q |
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| 11:12.00 | iostream | sifi-x: Like: ifconfig eth0 123.123.123.123; ifconfig eth0:0 123.123.123.321 .. |
| 11:12.00 | sdschulze | iostream: Could you paste your routing table somewhere? |
| 11:12.06 | sdschulze | hm |
| 11:12.17 | sdschulze | No, I can't help, either... |
| 11:12.19 | iostream | (Just example numbers..) |
| 11:12.34 | sifi-x | iostream, route |
| 11:12.50 | sifi-x | and give sdschulze the URL |
| 11:13.07 | iostream | sifi-x: okay, sec |
| 11:13.10 | sdschulze | My suspection was that you had two routing entries for the same address space. |
| 11:13.36 | sdschulze | (unsure about the terminology for routing...) |
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| 11:14.43 | iostream | sdschulze: http://pastebin.com/506526 |
| 11:15.10 | crypt_ex | To be able to mount nfs partitions, do I need anything installed, or can I just add the line to the fstab file and mount -all? Anyone had much experiance with NFS? |
| 11:15.59 | sifi-x | crypt_ex, you don't need anything if you just want ro |
| 11:16.15 | sdschulze | yuck... two default routes |
| 11:16.18 | crypt_ex | sifi-x, rw |
| 11:16.19 | iostream | crypt_ex: Do a apt-cache search nfs|grep client .. I think you might need "nfs-common".. Maybe you allready have it.. |
| 11:16.28 | crypt_ex | will check |
| 11:16.39 | sdschulze | I don't think that is expected to work. |
| 11:16.46 | sifi-x | crypt_ex, http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/ |
| 11:17.15 | sifi-x | crypt_ex, then you can write to NTFS as well, Vista will hovever use WinFS so you will meet new probs later |
| 11:17.49 | crypt_ex | sifi-x, this Linux to Linux |
| 11:17.58 | crypt_ex | :) |
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| 11:19.01 | sdschulze | sifi-x: NFS, not NTFS |
| 11:19.03 | flawd | HI. I'm using dvdbackup for the first time, and it does say "libdvdread: Attempting to retrieve all CSS keys This can take a _long_ time, please be patient |
| 11:19.03 | flawd | ", though I wonder how long time it should take? It has been stuck at "libdvdread: Elapsed time 0" for 15 min now |
| 11:19.03 | sifi-x | crypt_ex, erm, sorry |
| 11:19.11 | sifi-x | saw that |
| 11:19.19 | sdschulze | crypt_ex: No, the client is in the Linux kernel. |
| 11:19.27 | sdschulze | If that is set up properly, it will work. |
| 11:19.32 | iostream | sdschulze: How can I make it so that all out going traffic is routed through a specified IP-address? (If you know?) |
| 11:19.45 | crypt_ex | sdschulze, this does not appear to be mounting though... no error, setup correctly in fstab |
| 11:19.47 | sdschulze | Remove one default route. |
| 11:20.25 | sdschulze | Try to mount it by hand. |
| 11:20.44 | crypt_ex | ah |
| 11:20.48 | sdschulze | mount host:/filesystem /mnt |
| 11:20.55 | crypt_ex | cool works, dont work with mount -all though. |
| 11:20.57 | sdschulze | And make sure the server is set up properly. |
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| 11:22.27 | crypt_ex | sdschulze, works...how can I make it mount it automatically at boot? |
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| 11:24.00 | _moret | hi guys |
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| 11:24.43 | crypt_ex | there is a file which gets executed each time Linux is boot, I could add a line in here to load something... whats that file name/location? |
| 11:24.59 | crypt_ex | lol |
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| 11:26.30 | Eulex | !init.d |
| 11:26.30 | dpkg | somebody said init.d was where most Debian startup scripts go. To add your own, copy /etc/init.d/skeleton to myscript and make it do the appropriate thing on start and stop, at least. Then "update-rc.d myscript default". See also update-rc.d and /usr/share/doc/sysvinit and /etc/init.d/README |
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| 11:26.45 | _moret | do you know initng system? how do you think about this? |
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| 11:26.58 | sdschulze | crypt_ex: fstab should work... |
| 11:27.00 | crypt_ex | Eulex, werent there a file called local something which was executed? |
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| 11:27.10 | crypt_ex | sdschulze, It dont....had to do them manually. |
| 11:27.15 | sdschulze | But anyway... /etc/rc?.d/.... |
| 11:27.20 | Eulex | crypt_ex, umh... I don't think so |
| 11:27.20 | EdLin | !tell crypt_ex about rc.local |
| 11:27.26 | Eulex | ah, yes |
| 11:27.43 | Eulex | crypt_ex, why wouldn't /etc/fstab work? |
| 11:28.10 | crypt_ex | ahhhhh rc.local thats the one. ta |
| 11:28.12 | sdschulze | crypt_ex: What does your line look like? |
| 11:28.23 | sdschulze | (fstab is much cleaner.) |
| 11:28.26 | EdLin | crypt_ex: the factoid though advises not to use it |
| 11:28.31 | crypt_ex | 192.168.1.1:/ /untaken/ nfs rsize=1024,wsize=1024,noauto 0 0 |
| 11:28.42 | crypt_ex | sdschulze, Will umount it and try mount -all again |
| 11:28.46 | EdLin | crypt_ex: there's your answer, you made it noauto |
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| 11:29.21 | speyer | hi all |
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| 11:29.45 | crypt_ex | lol |
| 11:29.48 | crypt_ex | thanks |
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| 11:30.15 | xantian | hello peops |
| 11:30.16 | EdLin | crypt_ex: np |
| 11:30.25 | noblegas | ive been using debian and other linux flavours for years, but now Im having immense difficulty doing what I thought would be the simplest thing |
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| 11:30.59 | noblegas | I want to share files through a network between 2 linus boxes, I have no problems seeing files on a windows computer through linux though |
| 11:31.04 | Eulex | EdLin, what about making that a script for dpkg or apt? :) |
| 11:31.07 | xantian | i have problems with LOCALES |
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| 11:31.30 | speyer | can anyone please have a look here http://pastebin.com/506540 and tell me if my computer its prep for debian install ? |
| 11:31.34 | EdLin | Eulex: that's up to the bot owners |
| 11:31.40 | xantian | under ROOT account its all LANG=de_DE all LC_*=de_DE |
| 11:31.54 | Eulex | EdLin, hehe |
| 11:32.00 | xantian | but under my own account LANG=de_DE and all LC_*=POSIX |
| 11:32.04 | xantian | why? |
| 11:32.23 | xantian | a have reader more then 13 FM |
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| 11:32.31 | nohero | ciao! |
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| 11:32.47 | xantian | no help found. any idee? |
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| 11:33.02 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 11:33.02 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of ground beef, a little WD-40, and a dozen rabid bunnies. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
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| 11:33.17 | xantian | i know debian from V 2.1 ;) |
| 11:33.35 | speyer | all i want to know its if my video card itssupported and what should i choice for the xserver-xfree86 dirver ? |
| 11:33.37 | xantian | lol edlin |
| 11:34.02 | EdLin | speyer: what's your video card's chipset? |
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| 11:34.44 | DragonD | Is there a tool for batch reencoding mp3s? |
| 11:34.46 | xantian | speyer why xfree? why not XORG? |
| 11:34.51 | speyer | EdLin http://pastebin.com/506540 have a look here all my computer details |
| 11:34.51 | sdschulze | xantian: Have you checked bashrc's? |
| 11:35.03 | sdschulze | and profile's? |
| 11:35.19 | EdLin | xantian: xfree86 is what comes with stable, and he probably doesn't want to run xorg unless there's a reason to. |
| 11:35.21 | Eulex | xantian, sarge uses xfree86 4.3. |
| 11:35.50 | speyer | EdLin it doesnt really say anything about the video card chipset |
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| 11:36.13 | xantian | sdchule: sure |
| 11:36.38 | sdschulze | Where do you have the LANG setting? /etc/environment? |
| 11:36.45 | Eulex | speyer, no it doesn't, but I'd guess on intel i810-compatible. to be sure, check lspci. |
| 11:36.54 | xantian | i have chacked .bachrc and removed *.mo files and aptgeted localesconf |
| 11:37.02 | xantian | and no chance :( |
| 11:37.04 | speyer | EdLin its this Chipset |
| 11:37.04 | speyer | Intel 915G |
| 11:37.27 | sdschulze | xantian: What does "$ locale" say? |
| 11:37.39 | speyer | EdLin well im not on linux now , im using my mum computer :) i would like to install debian but before i want to make sure everything works |
| 11:37.45 | xantian | LANGUAGE=de_DE@euro |
| 11:37.48 | EdLin | speyer: I'm not too familiar with intel chipsets, try runing i810 |
| 11:37.55 | speyer | EdLin did you have a look on that link i give you ? |
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| 11:38.02 | sdschulze | Myself, I don't have LC_* set at all. |
| 11:38.08 | Eulex | speyer, yes, and if i810 doesn't work, try vesa. |
| 11:38.14 | xantian | enviropment says: LC_ALL=de_DE@euro |
| 11:38.15 | EdLin | speyer: yes, it says nothing about your video card except that it's an integrated one. |
| 11:38.24 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 11:38.25 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 11:38.25 | speyer | EdLin yes |
| 11:38.28 | xantian | LANG=de_DE@euro |
| 11:38.45 | sdschulze | I don't think you need to set LC_ALL. |
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| 11:38.50 | sdschulze | It's set anyway. |
| 11:38.51 | speyer | EdLin ok so i should try i810 and if not then vesa |
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| 11:39.01 | sdschulze | Just always check what locale says. |
| 11:39.03 | Eulex | speyer, yes. |
| 11:39.14 | xantian | wait i paste it |
| 11:39.17 | speyer | EdLin what about the colour ? 4 32 64 ? |
| 11:39.35 | EdLin | speyer: vesa is slow (no acceleration) but works on almost everything. It's good enough for you to run X long enough to google for your computer to find out what you really should be using. |
| 11:39.58 | cyzie | anybody know how to add a new hdd to the debian? can u show me a link on how to do this step by step |
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| 11:39.59 | cyzie | ? |
| 11:40.04 | Eulex | speyer, vesa will most probably work, but it's not optimal. if i810 doesn't work, come in here again and bring your lspci output. |
| 11:40.04 | EdLin | speyer: choose 24 bits, if it uses 64M like I think it does it will work. |
| 11:40.17 | speyer | EdLin well i can search from this secound computer two but dont know what should i search for |
| 11:40.30 | speyer | Eulex ok i will |
| 11:40.33 | sdschulze | cyzie: Plug in and enjoy? |
| 11:40.46 | Eulex | plug and pray |
| 11:40.49 | cyzie | sdschulze, that easy? :) |
| 11:40.50 | cyzie | LoL |
| 11:40.50 | EdLin | speyer: go to google and put your computer's brand and model into the search box. |
| 11:41.12 | sdschulze | cyzie: Do you have udev? |
| 11:41.19 | xantian | sdschulze: see ... http://pastebin.com/506548 |
| 11:41.22 | cyzie | sdschulze, what is udev? |
| 11:41.33 | speyer | Eulex i did , and thats all i could find whats on pastebin.com the ones you know |
| 11:41.33 | sdschulze | cyzie: What does "mount | grep dev" say? |
| 11:41.38 | EdLin | !udev |
| 11:41.38 | dpkg | methinks udev is at http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/utils/kernel/hotplug/udev-FAQ , Linux 2.6's userspace equivalent of DevFS, or a package which breaks particularly often in unstable, or dependent upon a kernel >= 2.6.12 |
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| 11:41.46 | cyzie | sdschulze, just a sec |
| 11:42.11 | EdLin | phoey, I forgot someone removed the "broken and shit" and "trojan" description of udev |
| 11:42.22 | cyzie | sdschulze, what particular line u looking for ? |
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| 11:42.55 | sdschulze | cyzie: how your /dev is handled |
| 11:43.02 | sdschulze | Just give me the line. |
| 11:43.02 | EdLin | !u |
| 11:43.02 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 11:43.27 | sdschulze | mount | grep "/dev " |
| 11:43.31 | sdschulze | ^^ probably better |
| 11:43.37 | lookie | !brb |
| 11:43.37 | dpkg | lookie: brb, too. Be Right Back |
| 11:43.46 | lookie | !stfu |
| 11:43.46 | dpkg | hmm... stfu is Shut The Fuck Up, or see also http://people.debian.org/~branden/humor/the_real_official_motto.jpeg |
| 11:44.01 | cyzie | sdschulze, /dev/hda1 on /media/hda1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,umask=022) |
| 11:44.10 | xwl | Hi, suppose i connect the internet through a VPN server, how to |
| 11:44.10 | xwl | access my own machine on the internet? Now my machine has the same IP as the server's. |
| 11:44.11 | speyer | EdLin ok i find out Driver - Graphics is " Intel Extreme Graphics Driver " |
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| 11:44.22 | EdLin | speyer: pick i810 |
| 11:44.30 | sdschulze | cyzie: Better try the second command I gave you. |
| 11:44.48 | sdschulze | The first one gives you a lot of uninteresting stuff. |
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| 11:45.28 | cyzie | sdschulze, mount | grep "/dev " do not have any result |
| 11:45.49 | sdschulze | No result is also a result... |
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| 11:46.28 | cyzie | sdschulze, ehhehe... so, what is the command suppose to show ? |
| 11:46.39 | sdschulze | Check "dmesg | grep hd" and try to find out which one is your HD. |
| 11:46.45 | sdschulze | hda, hdb, hdc, hdd, ... |
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| 11:47.43 | sdschulze | If you know by heart if it's Primary Master, Secondary Master, Primary Slave, or Secondary slave, this is also useful. |
| 11:47.44 | karen_ | sorry how i see may hard disk (Mount) |
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| 11:48.24 | xantian | sdschulze: any idee? http://pastebin.com/506548 |
| 11:48.27 | cyzie | sdschulze, i guess you miss my question. debian see my hdd. but how to format,partition and add into my system for user to write? |
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| 11:48.44 | sdschulze | cyzie: cfdisk |
| 11:49.02 | DragonD | how can i write a bash script to run a command on every file in a dir? |
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| 11:49.28 | sdschulze | xantian: My only idea left is that you do have some strange setting in some configuration file. |
| 11:49.51 | sdschulze | Maybe try setting up a fresh account and check the setting there. |
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| 11:50.09 | xantian | hmm.. ok thx :) |
| 11:50.24 | sdschulze | DragonD: for file in *; do FROB $file; done |
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| 11:51.01 | sdschulze | Replace FROB with ls to see if it does the right thing. |
| 11:51.15 | cyzie | sdschulze, can u show me a link from how to add a new hdd to the system till user can read/write to the disk ? |
| 11:52.09 | sdschulze | I suppose hand-holding is quicker. |
| 11:52.16 | sdschulze | But you might check the Debian installation guide. |
| 11:52.35 | xantian | cyzie: you mean thats? http://pastebin.com/506563 |
| 11:52.37 | EdLin | !u |
| 11:52.37 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
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| 11:52.50 | EdLin | the flogging will continue until morale improves! |
| 11:53.00 | DragonD | sdschulze: another problem the files have spaces... |
| 11:53.07 | sdschulze | Do you want to install a complete new system or just add space for some directory. |
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| 11:53.34 | cyzie | sdschulze, add space for some dir |
| 11:53.48 | sdschulze | DragonD: Does "$file" instead of $file work? |
| 11:54.52 | sdschulze | cyzie: move a directory to the HD or create a logical partition that has the size of the old partitions plus the new one? |
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| 11:55.09 | sdschulze | The former is quite easy -- the latter requires you to deal with LVM. |
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| 11:55.31 | tunnuz`euei | hi |
| 11:55.36 | cyzie | xantian, thanks for the fstab ;) |
| 11:55.50 | tunnuz`euei | i have a problema with my little debian "server" |
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| 11:56.02 | xantian | cyzie: for resize or add a new Part aptget = qtparted (GUI) |
| 11:56.09 | xantian | np cyzie |
| 11:56.15 | sdschulze | qtparted doesn't always work. |
| 11:56.16 | DragonD | sdschulze: yep it worked. now how can i replace all the " " with "_"? |
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| 11:56.32 | tunnuz`euei | when booting, my server stops on: lp0 using parport0 (polling). |
| 11:56.37 | xantian | sdschulze i know but up to 98% |
| 11:56.49 | tunnuz`euei | but i have no printers installed or connected to this machine |
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| 11:57.03 | tunnuz`euei | can anyone help me? |
| 11:57.09 | sdschulze | If you know what you're doing, resize2fs (assuming you're using ext2/3) is better. |
| 11:57.51 | xantian | sdschulze raiserfs 3.xx is the best at the time |
| 11:57.54 | tunnuz`euei | please? :| |
| 11:57.56 | xantian | ;) |
| 11:58.09 | sdschulze | tunnuz`euei: Try gnome-cups-manager or your browser at localhost:631 to examine. |
| 11:58.42 | tunnuz`euei | i don't have any graphic interface |
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| 11:58.46 | tunnuz`euei | this is a little home server |
| 11:59.00 | sdschulze | DragonD: first: make a backup, I'm not sure if it works... |
| 11:59.05 | sdschulze | then: |
| 11:59.10 | EdLin | tunnuz`euei: you don't need a GUI to run a web-browser. Install elinks |
| 11:59.24 | xantian | zunuz: you can configure the Printserver over any Browser |
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| 11:59.29 | tunnuz`euei | edLin (i was refering to "Try gnome-cups-manager") |
| 11:59.30 | EdLin | (or links, links2, lynx, w3m, etc.) |
| 11:59.34 | xantian | aptget CUPS |
| 11:59.36 | tunnuz`euei | i run lynx |
| 11:59.45 | tunnuz`euei | cups |
| 12:00.05 | tunnuz`euei | when the server finishes (polling) |
| 12:00.06 | EdLin | tunnuz`euei: you shouldn't be running CUPS at all if it's not going to print ever. |
| 12:00.06 | tunnuz`euei | i can try |
| 12:00.18 | tunnuz`euei | so i have to remove it? |
| 12:00.30 | tunnuz`euei | i know it is installed |
| 12:00.41 | EdLin | tunnuz`euei: I don't know, but it won't hurt. |
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| 12:01.01 | tunnuz`euei | because during boot, i have already read CUPS - somewhat about printing |
| 12:01.11 | tunnuz`euei | ok |
| 12:01.15 | tunnuz`euei | i also have another problem |
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| 12:01.18 | sdschulze | for file in *; do mv "$file" $(sed 's/ /_/g' < $(echo "$file")); done |
| 12:01.18 | tunnuz`euei | with mysql |
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| 12:01.29 | EdLin | I don't know much about mysql |
| 12:01.35 | tunnuz`euei | since I changed my router, and so the ip addresses class |
| 12:01.51 | sdschulze | DragonD: Better echo the command first. |
| 12:01.51 | tunnuz`euei | mysql can't start/stop and have lots of problems |
| 12:01.57 | sdschulze | (put echo before mv) |
| 12:02.06 | threat | tunnuz`euei, I am your MySQL man :) |
| 12:02.15 | tunnuz`euei | :P |
| 12:02.20 | xantian | tunnuz cat /var/log/mysql* |
| 12:02.35 | threat | tunnuz`euei, what seems to be the trouble? what error msg's are you getting ? |
| 12:02.39 | xantian | what say the log? |
| 12:02.58 | tunnuz`euei | threat: 2002 |
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| 12:03.04 | tunnuz`euei | problem with socket configuration |
| 12:03.23 | sdschulze | ah, bug... |
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| 12:03.32 | tunnuz`euei | xantian: when finally the server boot i can try |
| 12:03.52 | threat | tunnuz`euei, I see, What type of problems? |
| 12:03.53 | sdschulze | for file in *; do mv "$file" $(echo "$file" | sed 's/ /_/g'); done |
| 12:03.59 | sdschulze | DragonD: Now this should work. |
| 12:04.35 | tunnuz`euei | (ok, to avoid this errors with parport and the printer, what can I do?) |
| 12:04.35 | robertbb | Sleep. Night! |
| 12:04.45 | tunnuz`euei | (after removing cups?) |
| 12:05.05 | xantian | tunnuz: ok, try now /etc/init.d/mysql restart what saying that? |
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| 12:06.00 | tunnuz`euei | xantian: wait (it is still booting) |
| 12:06.18 | xantian | kk :P |
| 12:06.37 | tunnuz`euei | omg ... 30 minutes to boot |
| 12:06.49 | sdschulze | DragonD: sorry, it's still broken |
| 12:06.49 | xantian | whooooho |
| 12:06.54 | tunnuz`euei | 30 minutes waiting to realize that the printer is not installed :| |
| 12:07.23 | sdschulze | tunnuz`euei: Is cupsys-bsd installed? |
| 12:07.30 | tunnuz`euei | i think so |
| 12:07.43 | sdschulze | So if you don't need it, remove it. |
| 12:07.43 | tunnuz`euei | now i can't say, because the server is still booting :| |
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| 12:08.38 | tunnuz`euei | ok |
| 12:08.51 | sdschulze | DragonD: gotta use "find -0" or something... |
| 12:09.01 | ayandrewtlor_ | Hi, anyone had any experience with Debian Sarge on an an Abit BP6 (Dual celerons) |
| 12:09.26 | resiak | !anyone |
| 12:09.27 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone uses <someprogram>. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question was if anyone used <someprogram> ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <sicco> <ask-to-ask> <polls> |
| 12:09.44 | resiak | !anyone =~ s/was/_was_/ |
| 12:09.44 | dpkg | resiak: OK |
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| 12:10.07 | resiak | !anyone =~ s/if anyone used <someprogram>/"does anyone use <someprogram>?"/ |
| 12:10.07 | dpkg | resiak: OK |
| 12:11.03 | ayandrewtlor_ | I want to know if there are anythings I should watch out for, I take it, that I just install on one chip, then re-compile the kernel for SMP support, then, pop the second chip in? I'm confident at installing debian but I'm pretty much a newb |
| 12:11.06 | cyzie | xantian, if you dont mind im asking, i follow the an entry in your fstab, but why UserA cannot write file into the hdd though UserA is in the group of the hdd? i chmod w for the dir |
| 12:11.07 | bow | hello,every one, i have a problem with emacs jdee, is jdee2.3.5 not compatible with cedet 1.0 pre3? |
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| 12:11.24 | resiak | ayandrewtlor_: No, you install with both chips in, then install an smp kernel image |
| 12:11.45 | xantian | change chown |
| 12:11.46 | tunnuz`euei | STILL WAITING AAAARGH. I'm going to lunch, see you later (hoping that the server is up when I come back) |
| 12:12.13 | xantian | to youre user and group <STANDARD: disk> |
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| 12:12.39 | cyzie | xantian, can you give me example based on your explanation please? |
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| 12:13.15 | sdschulze | cyzie: Being in the group of the device does not matter. |
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| 12:13.38 | xantian | cyzie: on my PC chown xantian:disk /backup |
| 12:13.43 | sdschulze | Check for the mounted directory. |
| 12:13.45 | xantian | chmod is 755 |
| 12:14.24 | ayandrewtlor_ | resiak - simple as that? |
| 12:14.34 | sdschulze | I still don't get it... is there any wawy to search the BTS is full-text? |
| 12:14.56 | sdschulze | s/is/in/2 |
| 12:15.00 | xantian | cazie: with the chown xantian:disk can anyone write and read the HDD (by me) |
| 12:15.18 | resiak | ayandrewtlor_: Yeah. Debian is wonderful/ |
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| 12:15.33 | tunnuz`euei | nice |
| 12:15.38 | cyzie | xantion, thanks for very good example. for the chown part, can i do this? #chown root:storage /storage# where group storage has user able to write to the /storage? |
| 12:15.38 | xantian | cyzie: but thats no good idee if you have NTFS |
| 12:15.44 | sdschulze | tunnuz`euei: Better use --purge when removing it... |
| 12:15.50 | cyzie | xantian, not ntfs, ext3 |
| 12:15.53 | sdschulze | so the init script is removed, too |
| 12:15.55 | ayandrewtlor_ | okay thanks |
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| 12:16.21 | tunnuz`euei | ok |
| 12:16.23 | xantian | cyzie: no root ist an bad idee get youre own user |
| 12:16.44 | xantian | cyzie: chown cyzie:storage /storage |
| 12:16.56 | cyzie | xantian, copied that. will try now. |
| 12:17.01 | StanTheMan | I dont know how to make this a short question.... |
| 12:17.21 | StanTheMan | I have something "stuck" in apt-get or dselect |
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| 12:17.37 | speyer | when i run apt-get install kde kdm is will also install " x-window-system " ? |
| 12:17.44 | streuner | nope |
| 12:17.47 | cyzie | xantian, thanks for everything. you have given very good solution. appreciate your help very much :) |
| 12:17.47 | xantian | StanTheMan: you know aptitude? |
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| 12:17.56 | Eulex | StanTheMan, and it prevents you from installing and removing anything? |
| 12:17.59 | StanTheMan | every time I install a package with apt-get, I get errors from the setiathome package not being available anymore at ssl.berkeley.edu |
| 12:18.07 | xantian | cyzie you welcom :) |
| 12:18.15 | sdschulze | StanTheMan: Better elaborate than ask unspecific questions. |
| 12:18.22 | streuner | speyer: kde install the KDE bunch of packages, but NOT x-window-system itself |
| 12:18.26 | zorgy | hi, i have a keyboard config problem |
| 12:18.29 | Eulex | StanTheMan, pastebin the output you get. |
| 12:18.46 | xantian | Stan try another mirror |
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| 12:19.08 | StanTheMan | eulex: well...how can I grab it? It's scrolled outta my putty buffer... |
| 12:19.10 | xantian | zorgy: what an problem you get? |
| 12:19.27 | zorgy | the inferior/superior keys don't work |
| 12:19.30 | StanTheMan | eulex: i don't have any other packages I need to install... how do I get the err msg back? |
| 12:19.33 | Eulex | StanTheMan, shift+page-up |
| 12:19.37 | zorgy | it's on an azerty keyboard |
| 12:19.45 | tunnuz`euei | AAAALLELUJA! AAALLELUJA! |
| 12:20.03 | xantian | tunnuz youre server is up after 1 hour |
| 12:20.03 | speyer | streuner ok so to have x server running i need x-window-system too right ? |
| 12:20.07 | xantian | :=) |
| 12:20.16 | Eulex | StanTheMan, you could also do command &> file and then transmit the file using ftp/sftp/scp |
| 12:20.22 | StanTheMan | Eulex: nope, outta the buffer, because I "man apt-get" after I got the error |
| 12:20.23 | sdschulze | zorgy: What's superior/inferior keys? |
| 12:20.30 | StanTheMan | i only have like 500 lines in the buffer |
| 12:20.35 | zorgy | the horizontal V |
| 12:20.36 | streuner | speyer: yes |
| 12:20.40 | xantian | zorgy: What's superior/inferior keys? |
| 12:20.50 | zorgy | i don't know what it's called in english |
| 12:20.52 | sdschulze | < and > |
| 12:20.54 | StanTheMan | basically the question is actually simple |
| 12:20.57 | sdschulze | greater/less |
| 12:21.02 | zorgy | yes ^ |
| 12:21.04 | zorgy | ^ |
| 12:21.06 | tunnuz`euei | :| |
| 12:21.07 | tunnuz`euei | ok |
| 12:21.10 | tunnuz`euei | removing cups |
| 12:21.21 | sdschulze | zorgy: How have you configures your keyboard? |
| 12:21.34 | speyer | streuner ok what else do i need , to run a proper x ? |
| 12:21.39 | StanTheMan | at one time, I installed a package with apt-get. It failed. Since then, every time I use apt-get to install a package, apt-get also tries to go out and grab that other won that it was never able to get |
| 12:21.43 | zorgy | well, i installed debian and chose an azerty keyboard |
| 12:21.50 | zorgy | i didn't really configure it |
| 12:21.54 | xantian | zorgy you speaking German/russian/kasachish/Zigeunish?? :) |
| 12:22.06 | zorgy | german if you want :) |
| 12:22.08 | StanTheMan | is there a way to "flush" that out? |
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| 12:22.15 | speyer | streuner except what dpkg said already know that |
| 12:22.20 | Eulex | StanTheMan, we need the complete output. |
| 12:22.26 | xantian | so tell me youre problem in german :) |
| 12:22.36 | StanTheMan | eulex: I can't get it to you |
| 12:22.47 | StanTheMan | eulex: unless the err is logged somewhere... |
| 12:22.47 | tunnuz`euei | hjow to remove cups? |
| 12:23.00 | StanTheMan | eulex: i don't know where apt-get's logs are... |
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| 12:23.05 | xantian | StanTheMan: use pastebin.com |
| 12:23.06 | zorgy | die grösser/kleiner taste links unten neben shift auf meinem keyboard geht nicht |
| 12:23.11 | anapivirtua | lo all geek :) |
| 12:23.15 | Eulex | !d |
| 12:23.15 | dpkg | methinks d is uninterruptible sleep (usually IO), or a letter of the alphabet, or not a substitute for "the". |
| 12:23.17 | Eulex | !de |
| 12:23.17 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de - German speaking users please go to #debian.de |
| 12:23.39 | Eulex | StanTheMan, command &> file, then transfer the file using your preferred file transferring protocol. ftp/sftp/scp/rcp/samba/nfs |
| 12:23.44 | xantian | zorgy du musst quartz/german/deutsch/latei1 nodeadkeys benutzen |
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| 12:23.58 | xantian | Eulex forgot it |
| 12:23.58 | Eulex | xantian & zorgy, english please |
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| 12:24.15 | xantian | Eulex german support ist st8ill drunking |
| 12:24.37 | StanTheMan | eulex: how the !@#$ do you not understand what I'm saying? What file do you want me to send? I don't have the error msg output to send you. |
| 12:24.46 | xantian | zorgy try /j #debian.de |
| 12:24.49 | xantian | :P |
| 12:25.02 | zorgy | is there also a french one? |
| 12:25.11 | zorgy | because I have an azerty keyboard |
| 12:25.18 | xantian | !fr |
| 12:25.19 | dpkg | Les personnes qui parlent francais et qui ont besoin d'une aide a propos de Debian peuvent venir sur #debian-fr - People speaking french and in need of support for debian, please join #debian-fr |
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| 12:25.29 | zorgy | ok, thx |
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| 12:25.56 | Eulex | StanTheMan, command &> file will write both stdout and stderr of a command to a file. |
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| 12:26.19 | Eulex | xantian, they're drunken? |
| 12:26.40 | Gnea | beer? *perk* |
| 12:26.43 | xantian | the german Support is DRUNKEN. yeah sure |
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| 12:27.09 | crypt_ex | ah, k3m couldnt burn dvd, OPC Failed. Not sure about this one., |
| 12:27.16 | xantian | if you know SUSE Support Boards? the German Support for debian is not better |
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| 12:27.43 | xantian | crypt_ex: youre Debian Version? |
| 12:27.49 | crypt_ex | Sarge |
| 12:27.57 | crypt_ex | With 2.6.8 kernel |
| 12:27.58 | infoB | hello, how can i run games from bsdgames package? |
| 12:27.58 | Gnea | crypt_ex: k3b? |
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| 12:28.02 | DJ-Marcuzz | hello |
| 12:28.03 | crypt_ex | Yes |
| 12:28.04 | xantian | crypt_ex: try an backport |
| 12:28.14 | Gnea | crypt_ex: hey, did you set your drives up? |
| 12:28.15 | xantian | or reinstall k3m |
| 12:28.22 | StanTheMan | eulex: I don't think you're understanding my question at all.... |
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| 12:28.42 | Eulex | infoB, dpkg -L bsdgames |
| 12:28.43 | crypt_ex | Gnea, it worked for a cd the other day... and went through all those checks at the start of k3m. |
| 12:29.00 | Gnea | crypt_ex: k3b k3b k3b! :) |
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| 12:29.05 | xantian | Gnea he have an broken pakage |
| 12:29.05 | crypt_ex | oops |
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| 12:29.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | whats the big difference in sid and sarge? becaus in srage it didn't make any devices for my disks and forgot my raid after i made it and in sid it works perfect, but now im running sid on servers :S |
| 12:29.24 | crypt_ex | not worth trying another dvd first? |
| 12:29.24 | xantian | lol i mean k3b ^^ |
| 12:29.27 | Gnea | xantian: i doubt it. |
| 12:29.47 | Eulex | StanTheMan, fair enough |
| 12:29.53 | Gnea | crypt_ex: have you read this? http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/CD-Writing-HOWTO.html |
| 12:29.57 | StanTheMan | Eulex: does apt have a "queue" of some kind where it keeps a lits of packages that failed to download, and always try to download them again, each time it is run (to say, download some other package at a later date)? |
| 12:30.05 | crypt_ex | DVD writing Gnea, same thing? |
| 12:30.10 | Gnea | crypt_ex: yup |
| 12:30.19 | sdschulze | StanTheMan: apt-get doesn't make logs by default. |
| 12:30.33 | crypt_ex | thanks |
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| 12:31.09 | StanTheMan | can I tell you a story? |
| 12:31.29 | Gnea | !ask |
| 12:31.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
| 12:31.52 | StanTheMan | 2 months ago I attempted to "apt-get install setiathome" |
| 12:32.41 | Eulex | StanTheMan, if you're on etch or sid, there's /var/log/dpkg.log. but I don't think it keeps complete output of the commands you ran. apt doesn't have any 'queue', but if a package fails to install or uninstall, it will refuse to do anything else until you have fixed it. |
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| 12:33.06 | StanTheMan | apparently, during the package install, it attempts to go grab a file from a location it does not exist at |
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| 12:33.16 | StanTheMan | so it failed |
| 12:33.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | what is the big difference betwean Sid an Sarge that can make the difference of seeing my disks/making devices and working arrays and forgotten arrays? |
| 12:33.40 | StanTheMan | now, every time I run apt-get install *anything*, I get errors that the setiathome package could not be installed |
| 12:33.49 | StanTheMan | why do I keep getting that fail msg |
| 12:34.01 | Gnea | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about sarge |
| 12:34.01 | Gnea | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about sid |
| 12:34.07 | StanTheMan | what has been queued and where, to cause this behaviour? |
| 12:34.08 | azeem | StanTheMan: because APT complains that your packages are messed up |
| 12:34.19 | sdschulze | StanTheMan: Now could we see that message? |
| 12:34.21 | StanTheMan | azeem: how do i fix that? |
| 12:34.34 | StanTheMan | how do i give you the message? |
| 12:34.35 | azeem | StanTheMan: paste the complete error to a pastebin, for starters |
| 12:34.40 | azeem | !paster |
| 12:34.40 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
| 12:34.44 | crypt_ex | Gnea, this Howto is a little far stretched. |
| 12:34.49 | Eulex | StanTheMan, because the package didn't install correctly, apt will refuse to do anything else until you have fixed it. |
| 12:35.07 | StanTheMan | how to I get the error output? |
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| 12:35.26 | DJ-Marcuzz | 'damn, now im running sid on my server, but sarge won't do the job :( how bad is sid ? |
| 12:35.30 | Gnea | crypt_ex: then try this one: http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialCDBurn.html |
| 12:35.39 | Eulex | StanTheMan, try running whatever command you run before again? |
| 12:35.42 | StanTheMan | AFAICT, I will have to apt-get install something NOW, to reproduce the error message so I can paste it to you |
| 12:35.53 | StanTheMan | the other package is already installed! |
| 12:35.53 | Gnea | DJ-Marcuzz: i haven't had much problem with it recently |
| 12:35.57 | StanTheMan | install it again? |
| 12:36.07 | Gnea | StanTheMan: uninstall setiathome |
| 12:36.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | so stable enouf for my servers? :P |
| 12:36.15 | StanTheMan | ahh |
| 12:36.18 | StanTheMan | k... |
| 12:36.20 | StanTheMan | here: |
| 12:36.34 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: unstable is not recommended for servers |
| 12:36.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | yeah, but when i had sarge on it it didn't work :S |
| 12:36.55 | crypt_ex | ta Gnea |
| 12:37.01 | Gnea | :) |
| 12:37.09 | speyer | is there any gui tool to configure the running services ? |
| 12:37.13 | xantian | DJ: Try backports :) |
| 12:37.29 | StanTheMan | will #flood let me paste 15 lines? |
| 12:37.32 | Eulex | StanTheMan, just apt-get remove it. it fails when it tries configuring itself. apt-get will try to configure packages that aren't configured. |
| 12:37.41 | DJ-Marcuzz | and 1 more question: my raid5 array is about 740GB, but after mke2fs -j -m 0 -b 4096 -R stride=16 /dev/md1 it is 684GB :( what went wrog? |
| 12:37.43 | Gnea | StanTheMan: yes |
| 12:37.50 | StanTheMan | see #flood |
| 12:38.10 | beardy | speyer: Not that works, or should be used. What do you want to do, configure what is going to run, or configure the services/daemons themselves? |
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| 12:38.36 | StanTheMan | so, if it's partially installed, I can apt-get remove it, and that'll fix it? |
| 12:39.07 | Eulex | StanTheMan, it's not partially installed. it's installed, but not configured. and yes, apt-get remove setiathome will work |
| 12:39.08 | tunnuz`euei | I'm sorry, I got rid of the mysql problem. Now it remains the fact that during boot the server keeps waiting for a non-existent printer. |
| 12:39.25 | StanTheMan | that did it |
| 12:39.35 | StanTheMan | sorry for the un-needed complexity |
| 12:39.42 | StanTheMan | thanks for the help guys |
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| 12:39.55 | Eulex | StanTheMan, yw |
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| 12:41.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | euhm what went wrong that the array is 740G and the usable space after format is 684GB? |
| 12:42.05 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: sounds like you used 1GB=10^6 bytes in the first, and 1GB=2^30 in the second size |
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| 12:42.46 | linuxfreck | 1GB=10^9 bytes that is |
| 12:42.53 | DJ-Marcuzz | jow can i fix it, and wont'wanna loos 60gigs :( |
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| 12:43.00 | linuxfreck | you can't |
| 12:43.06 | sdschulze | DJ-Marcuzz: You haven't actually lost them. |
| 12:43.11 | linuxfreck | you didn't lose anything really |
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| 12:43.20 | linuxfreck | just different ways of measurement |
| 12:43.25 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: how many drives in that array, and what is the size of each drive? |
| 12:43.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | well a format or rebuild of array is no prob, just tell em how to use them |
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| 12:43.54 | infoB | Eulex, thnx |
| 12:44.11 | DJ-Marcuzz | 4x251GB and at every drive i took 2.5GB at the beginning and made an raid5 to put a swap on |
| 12:44.15 | Eulex | infoB, yw, even though I've forgotten what I helped you with :) |
| 12:44.31 | Cratos | I have a small issue with Kerberos, I login to hephaestus and get my TGT, when I ssh to hades it works, when I ssh to zeus I get an error, but when I ssh from hades to zeus it also works. any ideas?? |
| 12:44.55 | crypt_ex | Gnea, got it working, changed the speeds 1x, now works. Dont like anything faster :( |
| 12:44.57 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: you didn't lose anything after formatting. it's a measurement error. just live with it. |
| 12:45.04 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: what??~!!??! swap partition on a raid5? swap is temporary of the purest sort. RAID5 has tremendous overhead (SLOW) |
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| 12:46.06 | DJ-Marcuzz | well i hat an array before and then i had 750GB, but i didn't use the 2.5GB at the beginning |
| 12:46.17 | crypt_ex | Gnea, nope failed! damn! |
| 12:46.51 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: take your 4 2.5GB partitions, and make them RAID 0 for your swap. RAID 5 requires parity calculations. It is meant for data redundancy. You don't need redundancy for swap data. Your write speen on a RAID5 swap partition will be LESS than what a single drive will give you |
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| 12:47.19 | linuxfreck | don't use raid for swap at all. just have 4 swap partitions |
| 12:47.34 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, but when a disk crashes i my system goes down with it becaus the swap crashes |
| 12:48.07 | StanTheMan | DJ: are you saying that swap is CAUSING your system to go down? |
| 12:48.11 | Cratos | linuxfreck: so if any of your 4 drives dies, so does your machine. You basically always lose data. |
| 12:48.18 | DJ-Marcuzz | i read so, |
| 12:48.27 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: and read the first paragraph in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte to undestand the issue with the seemingly lost space |
| 12:48.43 | linuxfreck | in that case, raid-1 is still better than -5 |
| 12:48.51 | crypt_ex | usr/bin/growisofs -Z /dev/hdc -use-the-force-luke=notray ? I think k3b is giving wrong arguments to growisofs, use-the-force-luke ?? Whats that all about? |
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| 12:49.07 | Gathond | StanTheMan: having the drive with the swap partition die would make the system unstable I would presume |
| 12:49.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | linuxfreck, cant i make raid 10 then? |
| 12:49.34 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: sure you can |
| 12:50.02 | StanTheMan | if he has swap on 4 drives in a RAID, and one drive dies, he's going to have instability anyway |
| 12:50.32 | crypt_ex | What other burning software is there except k3b? |
| 12:50.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, but the space aint a error at calculation, check the space in kb then: /dev/md1 716584960 131228 716453732 1% /Data-Array.1 |
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| 12:50.59 | linuxfreck | crypt_ex: man growisofs, "There're several undocumented options commonly denoted with -use-the-force-luke prefix. Some of them serve debugging purposes. Some require certain knowledge about recording process or even OS kernel internals and as being such can induce confusing behaviour. Some are to be used in very specific situations better recognized by front-ends or automated scripts." |
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| 12:51.24 | DJ-Marcuzz | and the mdadm info: |
| 12:51.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | Array Size : 728009280 (694.28 GiB 745.48 GB) |
| 12:51.25 | DJ-Marcuzz | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:51.30 | crypt_ex | linuxfreck, my god I thought I was going crazy there for one min.... my names Luke. |
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| 12:51.42 | linuxfreck | crypt_ex: heh |
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| 12:52.03 | Madkiss | hi all |
| 12:52.17 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: that actually proves what I said |
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| 12:52.32 | Madkiss | Whenever I try to connect a camera to my Debian box, when gphoto2 tries to detect it, all I see in the dmesg is "ttyS1: LSR safety check engaged!" |
| 12:52.35 | Madkiss | and nothing else |
| 12:52.38 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: Madkiss is correct. |
| 12:52.44 | DJ-Marcuzz | and df -h sais: 684G so its still 10GB difference |
| 12:52.50 | mrex | i'm setting up an old pc and i need to find libstdc++, libc6 etc, but (for various reasons) the only way i can get these files is manually using ftp. What is the path to these libraries? I can't find it |
| 12:53.05 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok :'( |
| 12:53.18 | mrex | it seems like they should be in a "base" directory |
| 12:53.20 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: any way we can convince you you're not wasting or losing that space? |
| 12:53.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | could you guide me trough the raid setup of raid10 then? |
| 12:53.46 | DJ-Marcuzz | i believe you guys now im not loosing space ;) |
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| 12:53.49 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: it's a math issue. |
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| 12:54.05 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuss: you using software raid correct? |
| 12:54.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | yes |
| 12:54.17 | StanTheMan | which one? |
| 12:54.22 | StanTheMan | the driver i mean |
| 12:54.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | how can i see? |
| 12:54.33 | linuxfreck | DJ-Marcuzz: some space is lost for the ext3 journal, but I'm not sure how much that is |
| 12:55.01 | StanTheMan | freck: can you tell me what raid driver he's using? I'll look up the setup info for him. |
| 12:55.29 | linuxfreck | StanTheMan: he didn't tell me |
| 12:55.33 | DJ-Marcuzz | how can i see what driver im using? |
| 12:55.49 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: what utility (command) did you use to setup the RAID 5? |
| 12:56.03 | StanTheMan | or have you yet? |
| 12:56.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | nothing, i did it under linux setup |
| 12:56.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | but mdadm works |
| 12:56.22 | StanTheMan | ahh |
| 12:56.35 | DJ-Marcuzz | mdadm - v1.12.0 - 14 June 2005 |
| 12:56.47 | DJ-Marcuzz | is that what you mean? |
| 12:56.53 | StanTheMan | hang on |
| 12:57.04 | Cratos | I have a small issue with Kerberos, I login to hephaestus and get my TGT, when I ssh to hades it works, when I ssh to zeus I get an error, but when I ssh from hades to zeus it also works. any ideas?? |
| 12:57.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, i need to remove /dev/md0 and /dev/md1, and then make an new raid 10 as md0 and an new raid5 as md1 |
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| 12:58.12 | Swers | How could I make a playlist for mplayer please? |
| 12:59.31 | saloxin | is there a way to get update-grub to append root=/dev/md0 instead of hda1 (which doesn't work)? |
| 12:59.33 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan, ill hang on |
| 12:59.54 | mrex | a mplayer playlist is a text file with the (path) filenames to the songs (i think), each line has a separate filename |
| 13:00.01 | asg | Cratos: have you asked in #kerberos yet? |
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| 13:00.38 | Cratos | asg: yup, but nobody is really there :-( |
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| 13:00.47 | StanTheMan | you using the 2.6 kernel DJ? |
| 13:00.52 | bonden | hello. is there any program in linux/debian that handles .rik files? |
| 13:01.11 | asg | Cratos: what is the 'error' you get from zeus? |
| 13:01.17 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: you using the 2.6 kernel? |
| 13:01.18 | mrex | i think gmplayer also makes playlists |
| 13:01.31 | beardy | bonden: What is .rik? |
| 13:01.47 | asg | beardy: guy in the Young Ones |
| 13:01.50 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: and are the hard disks SATA? |
| 13:01.51 | DJ-Marcuzz | no 2.4 is still on |
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| 13:02.14 | pawdro | how to upgrade firefox to the latest version in etch? |
| 13:02.18 | DJ-Marcuzz | and the hdd's are ATA/133 connected to an highpoint rocketraid 454 ontroller |
| 13:02.29 | StanTheMan | ayayayaaa |
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| 13:02.46 | DJ-Marcuzz | what? |
| 13:02.49 | bonden | beardy: its a format for files that should show big map images |
| 13:03.12 | mrex | somebody please help with the path to the libc6 issues, i'm really stuck.... |
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| 13:03.20 | DJ-Marcuzz | i could install 2.6 in no time (having an 10mbit connection) and the controller works fine |
| 13:03.51 | Cratos | asg: the error is "Server not found in Kerberos database" but... it is when I connect via hades it works, listprincs in kadmin does show the host and ssh service |
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| 13:03.58 | speyer | how come i cannot even see where i have to type my username and password after i boot my fresh installed system ? the resoluton its so big , and i cannot even change it any ideea ? |
| 13:04.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | so StanTheMan, tell e what to do ;) |
| 13:04.38 | speyer | this is the 3th time i install debian and i still get the same problem , i never have such a problem before in other system i installed like " fedora centos madrivia " |
| 13:04.39 | sts9 | why would famd run on my machine every night between 6-7 AM , hog my cpu and shoot up my network incoming to over 300K a sec? |
| 13:04.53 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: I'm reading the RocketRaid454 PDF manual. I suggest you do the same |
| 13:05.09 | StanTheMan | http://www.highpoint-tech.com/manuals/rr454_404/RR404-454%20_UM_en_1.0.pdf |
| 13:05.13 | speyer | is there anything wrong wit xserver-xfree86 ? or what ? |
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| 13:05.18 | spiekey | hello! |
| 13:05.20 | beardy | sts9: because you run gnome? |
| 13:05.22 | asg | Cratos: odd |
| 13:05.34 | sts9 | beardy: kde |
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| 13:05.55 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan, why read that manual the card works as ide controller the raid functions sucks! |
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| 13:06.02 | spiekey | does sarge contain the suexec2 binary for apache2? I could not find it with apt-file search, but in a few howtos they write that they use sarge with apache2 |
| 13:06.34 | speyer | the login screen is so big i can see what i type |
| 13:06.36 | Cratos | asg: I have even recreated the krb5.keytab file on zeus |
| 13:06.39 | speyer | what do i have to do ? |
| 13:07.20 | speyer | i cannot i mean |
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| 13:07.34 | sts9 | beardy: ok, what would that have to do with my network? is this a security problem? |
| 13:07.38 | speyer | can anyone please help me ? |
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| 13:09.05 | DJ-Marcuzz | !ask |
| 13:09.05 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For Example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. when I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, or if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask (ask the whole channel!). We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer, ask later or ask debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 13:09.18 | azeem | speyer: what resolution did you choose? |
| 13:09.35 | beardy | sts9: I don't know why it impacts your network. Serving any files? Then famd looks at the files and that is causing it, perhaps. |
| 13:09.44 | ak70 | hi, is anyone using xfce in sid here? |
| 13:09.55 | beardy | !anyone use |
| 13:09.55 | dpkg | No, no one uses it, not even the people who use it. |
| 13:10.15 | sts9 | beardy: its my incoming bandwidth |
| 13:10.40 | StanTheMan | that's just great..... |
| 13:10.41 | ak70 | ok, then how can I find debian menu in it? |
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| 13:10.53 | StanTheMan | highpoint has ZERO documentation for Linux |
| 13:10.54 | sts9 | beardy: um I dont have a file or ftp server. sometimes I use nicotine or ipodder but niether are running right now |
| 13:11.11 | StanTheMan | and they advertise the product as supporting red hat, suse, etc |
| 13:11.14 | beardy | sts9: Do you need famd for anything? |
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| 13:11.18 | linuxfreck | sts9: probably a cron job is running, like the one updating your locate database |
| 13:11.23 | sts9 | beardy: famd creates an index of files on my system? |
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| 13:11.34 | beardy | !tell sts9 -about famd |
| 13:11.40 | beardy | That's all I know about it. |
| 13:11.48 | brosio | hi i've download the netinstall debian cd of testing but finished the installation i get conflict between locales and base-config package anyone known because ? |
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| 13:11.59 | sts9 | beardy: yeah I thought it might me updatedb. so I checked and It was famd |
| 13:12.15 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: can we kinda start over here? What is your goal? WIth this computer? Npt your goal with the RAID card, but the overall goal of what you want the PC to do? |
| 13:12.17 | beardy | sts9: And that gnome/kdeor nautilius or something uses it, other than that I don't understand what it is for. |
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| 13:12.38 | ak70 | anyone? |
| 13:12.38 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan, do you need one? just tell me how to remove 2 software raid arrays, and how to make an raid 10 software ;) |
| 13:12.39 | speyer | azeem well when i run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 i ckech all resolution in that list |
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| 13:12.39 | crypt_ex | What is this line on df? tmpfs 518284 0 518284 0% /dev/shm |
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| 13:12.59 | azeem | speyer: do you need them all? |
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| 13:13.03 | StanTheMan | that's what I thought.... |
| 13:13.09 | azeem | speyer: it will pick the highest by default |
| 13:13.14 | speyer | azeem noi i dont |
| 13:13.21 | azeem | speyer: try hitting <ctrl+alt+[num-]> |
| 13:13.27 | azeem | i.e. the - key on the numbpad |
| 13:13.30 | azeem | eh, numpad |
| 13:13.30 | beardy | sts9: Isn't it running all the time, not as a cronjob? |
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| 13:13.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan, what do you mean? |
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| 13:13.57 | ak70 | I can not find debian menu in xfce, does anyone have the same problem> |
| 13:14.13 | blondie | ak70: well I don't have one |
| 13:14.26 | ak70 | is it a bug? |
| 13:14.34 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: 1. You bought a hardware RAID card. 2. You're using software RAID. 3. You're in over your head. |
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| 13:15.00 | sts9 | beardy: ok so its not a security problem, its a security protection. the network part is odd. thought an its hogging my cpu usage. could it be that someone is indexing my files??? Im gonna download etherape and see where my bandwidth is going |
| 13:15.13 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: the arrays that you have now: did you create them in the BIOS? |
| 13:15.28 | blondie | ak70: dunno |
| 13:15.45 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: or with the Linux installer? |
| 13:15.52 | zorgy | hi, I wanted to know how to keep the configuration made with xmodmap at startup for all users |
| 13:15.53 | DJ-Marcuzz | linux raid installer |
| 13:16.02 | speyer | azeem ctrl+alt+[num-] doesnt work |
| 13:16.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | i don't use the bios, the card functions as an ide controller |
| 13:16.20 | StanTheMan | k |
| 13:16.24 | beardy | sts9: It's has nothing to do with security, neither for or against. |
| 13:16.36 | azeem | speyer: too bad, maybe it was a different combination |
| 13:16.50 | StanTheMan | does your /boot partitoin reside on one of the raid arrays? |
| 13:16.50 | speyer | azeem ctrl+alt+- (minus) doesnt either |
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| 13:16.58 | azeem | speyer: you can also edit /etc/X11/XFree86-4 and change the default resolution there |
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| 13:17.20 | azeem | speyer: or just not select too high resolution with dpkg-reconfigure |
| 13:17.44 | ak70 | how can I add debian menu to xfce |
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| 13:17.47 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: does your /boot partition reside on one of the arrays? |
| 13:17.50 | speyer | azeem i cannot see anything man, i couldnt even see where to type my password, and also when i open the terminal i see only half of it , do you get me ? |
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| 13:17.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | ./boot is on /dev/md2 thats raid1 over 2 other disks |
| 13:18.11 | azeem | speyer: so your monitor is misconfigured? |
| 13:18.16 | speyer | azeem dpkg-reconfigure xserver... aint work no more |
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| 13:18.23 | azeem | it's xserver-xfree86 |
| 13:18.35 | speyer | azeem yeah i know :) i just dont want to type it |
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| 13:18.40 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: are you prepared to wipe your Linux install, and everything basically, and start over? |
| 13:18.43 | sts9 | beardy: ok. Ill have to check more into this network usage. A File Altercation monitor sounds like a security program to me. unless its a compliment program to journaling filesystems... |
| 13:18.50 | azeem | speyer: well, "doesn't work" is no error description |
| 13:18.54 | sifi-x | speyer, x.org? |
| 13:18.57 | speyer | azeem its because the resolution its too big or the xserver-xfree... it shit |
| 13:19.00 | vipe | I have a snd_hda_intel soundcard in my thinkpad. Sound is available and I can play whatever with any player. But no sound... might it be a missing parameter? (as described on the alsa site, the sound core and intel hda are compiled as module) |
| 13:19.17 | azeem | speyer: does the screen scroll when you move the mouse to the edges? |
| 13:19.22 | speyer | sifi-x i try to install apt-get install xserver-xorg but it doenst found any package |
| 13:19.35 | sifi-x | speyer, in Etch or sarge? |
| 13:19.37 | speyer | azeem it does but only to half |
| 13:19.40 | DJ-Marcuzz | yes, but has it be so drasticly? becaus the system arrays are on 2 different disks the the raid5 has to be, but if it has to be wiped ok |
| 13:19.44 | speyer | sifi-x sarge |
| 13:19.48 | beardy | sts9: As I said, gnome/(something)/nautilus uses it for something, I don't know for what, but you can probably stop it and uninstall it. |
| 13:19.53 | sifi-x | speyer, use Etch for desktops |
| 13:20.03 | azeem | sifi-x: let's fix that first |
| 13:20.04 | sifi-x | speyer, x.org is not in stable afaik |
| 13:20.10 | speyer | sifi-x yeah nice that you`re telling me now |
| 13:20.11 | azeem | sifi-x: but xfree86 is |
| 13:20.22 | sifi-x | azeem, ? |
| 13:20.23 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: you currently have two arrays, correct? And they are RAID 1 arrays? |
| 13:20.23 | speyer | yeah yeah i see how stable it is |
| 13:20.23 | speyer | :) |
| 13:20.29 | speyer | such a shit |
| 13:20.36 | beardy | sts9: It doesn't monitor modified files for security, AFAIK. You want tripfire or similar for that. |
| 13:20.41 | azeem | speyer: well, if you want help, maybe you should stop dissing it |
| 13:20.50 | beardy | sts9: tripwire |
| 13:20.50 | DJ-Marcuzz | no, lemme past the df output to pastbin, one moment! |
| 13:20.51 | sifi-x | speyer, I use Etch, runs like a canonball |
| 13:20.57 | StanTheMan | k |
| 13:21.10 | speyer | sifi-x well i want to run servers on it mail http .... |
| 13:21.39 | speyer | sifi-x and it might be also because of my video driver |
| 13:21.59 | sifi-x | speyer, you want to run apache, then Etch is still fine if its not for endproduction |
| 13:22.02 | sts9 | beardy: ok Ill see what synaptic complains about when I try to remove it. (only feature I use synaptic for) |
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| 13:22.09 | speyer | azeem yeah cheers for your help very helpful |
| 13:22.09 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan: http://dj-marcuzz.pastebin.com/506629 |
| 13:22.20 | azeem | speyer: cheers for your feedback, very helpful |
| 13:22.23 | sifi-x | speyer, Etch for desktops is all i say |
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| 13:22.33 | azeem | sifi-x: he wants to run servers, though |
| 13:22.45 | speyer | sifi-x and what is sarge for then ? |
| 13:22.51 | speyer | azeem so whats wrong with it ? |
| 13:23.01 | azeem | wrong with what? |
| 13:23.03 | beardy | sts9: Just stop it, if it depends on other things. |
| 13:23.03 | sifi-x | speyer, public servers |
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| 13:23.20 | speyer | sifi-x well then |
| 13:23.23 | speyer | thats what i want |
| 13:23.29 | azeem | you don't need X for that |
| 13:23.39 | speyer | azeem for a server ? |
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| 13:23.49 | azeem | yes, why would you need X? |
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| 13:23.50 | sts9 | beardy: hmm seems no program even depends on it. the destop debian install gave me gnome. I uninstalled all that. so this must be left over from that |
| 13:23.57 | speyer | azeem why not ? ;) |
| 13:24.10 | sifi-x | speyer, ok, then keep using sarge, or use sarge for the server and Etch on a dektops thats behind NAT |
| 13:24.10 | lpb-oberon | are there any known problems with hddtemp? |
| 13:24.13 | sts9 | beardy: never heard of it before |
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| 13:24.27 | speyer | azeem hey aint no matter what i want it for ,, i just came here to get a bit of help which i didnt get it |
| 13:24.29 | sts9 | beardy: Im gonna remove it |
| 13:24.33 | lpb-oberon | my pc got some kind of bus error |
| 13:24.46 | azeem | speyer: did you modify the default resolution to something smaller like I told you? |
| 13:24.56 | DJ-Marcuzz | StanTheMan, http://dj-marcuzz.pastebin.com/506629, we can continue in the wisperbox to if you want to? |
| 13:24.58 | sifi-x | speyer, thats one way to do it, then the sarge box stands as NAT and firewall serving internet to dektops |
| 13:25.07 | lpb-oberon | and failed to boot with: "error loading the operating system" |
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| 13:25.14 | speyer | azeem did you read what i said ? i cannot see anything man i only see the top of the windows |
| 13:25.20 | StanTheMan | sure |
| 13:25.23 | StanTheMan | whipser box |
| 13:25.26 | azeem | speyer: so SSH in |
| 13:25.28 | sts9 | beardy: and down down goes my cpu usage. :) thanks beardy |
| 13:25.30 | azeem | speyer: or go back to the console |
| 13:25.49 | speyer | azeem how do i get back to the console man ? |
| 13:25.56 | azeem | ctrl+alt+f1 |
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| 13:26.50 | sifi-x | speyer, chvt 1 |
| 13:27.04 | azeem | he's at a login screen AFAICT |
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| 13:27.21 | solo | jest u jakis polak ?? |
| 13:27.27 | azeem | !pl |
| 13:27.27 | dpkg | i heard pl is sometimes referred to as "packet loss", or polska -> #debian.pl |
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| 13:27.35 | DJ-Marcuzz | well stan if you read please say something in the wisper/private message box or how ever its called |
| 13:27.40 | solo | thx |
| 13:27.45 | solo | see ya ;] |
| 13:27.50 | sifi-x | bye bye, traveling to sweden over the day or two =) |
| 13:28.23 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: you might need to activate privmsg from unregistered users |
| 13:28.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | how? |
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| 13:29.38 | DJ-Marcuzz | how can i actvate that? |
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| 13:30.15 | lpb-oberon | hpiod: ParDevice::nibble_read failed: Input/output error |
| 13:30.22 | StanTheMan | im here |
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| 13:30.28 | StanTheMan | i was int he msg box |
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| 13:30.39 | DJ-Marcuzz | well that didn't work :P |
| 13:30.43 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: |
| 13:30.52 | DJ-Marcuzz | azeem, how do i activate the msg box? |
| 13:31.02 | crypt_ex | !tell crypt_ex about backports |
| 13:31.10 | tiny | Where is a good place to put this -> "echo "1" > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward" line for IP forwarding? |
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| 13:31.36 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: I am not sure |
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| 13:32.04 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: if you have two more small (same size, speed, etc) IDE disks, I'd put them on the mobo IDE channels. Make a RAID 1 of them, wiht the swap partition on them, boot partition, and Linux partitoin. Then, make a RAID5 of all 4 of the drives on the highpoint, and use that for your data |
| 13:32.07 | azeem | StanTheMan, DJ-Marcuzz: you two can also just make up a new chan, like #stan-marcuzz and talk there |
| 13:32.18 | britt | I have a external USB hard-drive that wont unmount on its own....I even tried umount -f....is there anything else I can do? |
| 13:32.32 | StanTheMan | azeem: thx |
| 13:33.13 | asg | britt: make sure nothing is using the drive. Use fuser or lsof to find out |
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| 13:33.17 | StanTheMan | DJ-Marcuzz: the reason I recommend this, is that mixing multiple RAID arrays across the same set of disks is a big no-no. |
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| 13:33.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | stan enter #stan-marcuzz |
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| 13:34.19 | adrakoa | britt fuser -k /mount_point/ && umount /mount_point/ |
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| 13:34.57 | jing | Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?] y |
| 13:34.57 | jing | WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 13:35.10 | beardy | jing: /topic |
| 13:35.31 | pabs3 | anyone know if mc can do 3 panes? or if there is a gui/nongui filemanager that can do the equivalent? |
| 13:35.37 | britt | adrakoa: sweet! thanks.... |
| 13:37.20 | fantomas | Hi. Problem with Emacs. Previously I used non-debian version of emacs on my Debian box. It was installed in /usr/local. Today I moved to Debianized emacs and removed emacs stuff in /usr/local. Now every start of Emacs I get same Warning: "Warning: Lisp directory `/usr/local/share/emacs/21.4/site-lisp' does not exist." Does this mean that Debian(ized) emacs needs something in /usr/local |
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| 13:38.56 | asg | fantomas: more likely that the Debian package is configured to look for local lisp additions in /usr/local which you probably just deleted. |
| 13:39.42 | fantomas | asg: then I can just restore that path I guess |
| 13:39.53 | asg | fantomas: that should work, yes. |
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| 13:40.09 | speyer | whats the command to restart x ? |
| 13:40.23 | fantomas | speyer: C-M-Backspace |
| 13:40.29 | asg | speyer: that depends on how you started x |
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| 13:42.10 | speyer | asg i type startx |
| 13:42.23 | asg | speyer: then what fantomas will work followed by typing 'startx' again |
| 13:42.33 | asg | s/will work/said will work/ |
| 13:42.57 | speyer | i cannot type startx again |
| 13:43.00 | speyer | it doesnt work |
| 13:43.13 | asg | in what way does it 'not work' |
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| 13:43.46 | speyer | lol |
| 13:43.52 | speyer | well what do you think it says ? |
| 13:43.57 | speyer | already running :) |
| 13:44.18 | speyer | or better said " already started on desktop 0 " :) |
| 13:44.48 | Paras | hi all: is it possible to install gnome 2.12 from any debian repo? experimenta? |
| 13:44.50 | speyer | so how do i restart it ? |
| 13:44.51 | asg | speyer: did you do ctrl+alt+backspace? |
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| 13:45.21 | asg | speyer: or click 'exit' or somesuch in whatever window manager / desktop environment you are running? |
| 13:45.47 | speyer | asg i cannot click anything my resolution its toooo big |
| 13:45.54 | speyer | v kde |
| 13:45.58 | speyer | asg kde |
| 13:46.33 | asg | speyer: then if ctrl+alt+backspace doesn't kill X or get you to a console, use ctrl+alt+f1, login, kill X |
| 13:46.50 | crypt_ex | where does Debian download the deb packages again? |
| 13:46.52 | mrex | paras, i run unstable and its got gnome 2.12 |
| 13:46.59 | asg | crypt_ex: /var/cache/apt/archives |
| 13:47.02 | crypt_ex | ta |
| 13:48.18 | jing | df |
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| 13:49.20 | speyer | asg how do i see all my kde package installed on system ? |
| 13:49.22 | xantian | lol |
| 13:49.34 | xantian | typical german |
| 13:49.39 | xantian | Mode change "+b *!*n=xantian@*.pools.arcor-ip.net" on channel #debian-de by pearl |
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| 13:50.00 | xantian | lol |
| 13:50.26 | asg | speyer: dpkg -l | grep ... |
| 13:50.57 | xantian | i saig again German Debian support is not better then SuSi support and the german support is drunking |
| 13:51.00 | xantian | :) |
| 13:51.14 | blondie | are you drunk? |
| 13:51.23 | xantian | no blondie |
| 13:51.33 | Paras | mrex: when i run apt-get install gnome-desktop-environment i don;t get 2.12 |
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| 13:51.49 | xantian | i was blocked by away and back |
| 13:51.55 | blondie | xantian: suuuure ;) |
| 13:52.07 | xantian | blondie i love you toooooooooooooo |
| 13:52.08 | Paras | mrex, is gnome 2.12 already moved to debian sid ? |
| 13:52.59 | xantian | :P |
| 13:52.59 | Ayman- | how to verify checksums of files belonging to a package with dpkg or apt |
| 13:52.59 | mrex | paras, no idea, i just did and upgrade and the splash screen says 2.12 |
| 13:52.59 | asg | Ayman-: debsums |
| 13:52.59 | Paras | mrex, ok will try it |
| 13:53.12 | Ayman- | asg, do i need a a database to be built before the file gets modified or it's already there ? |
| 13:53.14 | blondie | xantian: :) |
| 13:53.35 | xantian | what blondie? :) |
| 13:53.43 | blondie | nuffin! ^.^ |
| 13:53.53 | crypt_ex | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! When trying to ./configure k3b? |
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| 13:54.00 | crypt_ex | Cant work this out |
| 13:54.07 | xantian | Woman .......... -.- |
| 13:54.18 | azeem | xantian: ? |
| 13:54.23 | xantian | crypt_ex what is youre Problem now? |
| 13:54.27 | blondie | woman? |
| 13:54.50 | xantian | i´m stll working now blondiw 0o |
| 13:54.51 | Ayman- | asg, got it, thanks =) |
| 13:54.59 | crypt_ex | xantian, I am trying to compile the latest version of k3b... backports does not have this either. |
| 13:55.14 | crypt_ex | When trying to run ./configure, I recieve that above erro.r |
| 13:55.15 | crypt_ex | error. |
| 13:55.39 | blondie | xantian: im not a woman |
| 13:55.42 | azeem | crypt_ex: what does backports not have? That error? |
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| 13:56.33 | crypt_ex | azeem, in the packages on the homepage, under k, no k3b is present. |
| 13:56.41 | xantian | ok ok blondie i´m sorry :) |
| 13:56.43 | azeem | ah |
| 13:56.50 | tiny | I'm having trouble getting debug messages from pppd. All I get is pppd 2.4.3 started by root, uid 0 which is not enough. I placed debug option in ppp options. Somehow this debug messages aren't comming to /var/log/messages. Why? |
| 13:56.55 | azeem | crypt_ex: well, did you install k3b's Build-Depends? |
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| 13:57.02 | xantian | crypt_ex tell what the error you get |
| 13:57.03 | crypt_ex | pardon? |
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| 13:57.12 | KerPlunk_ | k3b isn't in testing. |
| 13:57.13 | azeem | 14:48 < crypt_ex> checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! When trying to ./configure k3b? |
| 13:57.16 | crypt_ex | checking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths! |
| 13:57.18 | KerPlunk_ | !why is k3b not in testing |
| 13:57.18 | dpkg | k3b is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://bjorn.haxx.se/debian/testing.pl?package=k3b |
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| 13:57.25 | crypt_ex | yea thats the one :D |
| 13:58.11 | KerPlunk_ | k3b sucks anyway...just use cdrecord or cdw |
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| 13:58.26 | crypt_ex | for dvds? |
| 13:58.41 | Maulkin | dvdrecord |
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| 13:58.48 | crypt_ex | okay thanks |
| 13:58.49 | Maulkin | or growisofs |
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| 14:00.53 | xantian | crypt_ex try this ./configure --enable-gui=no |
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| 14:02.29 | xantian | crypt_ex you must be installed X -dev pakages |
| 14:02.44 | dvm1981 | I have installed 'xfce' on a 'Stable version' but i have not the main menu with all the applications listed. I have the same problem with 'Fluxbox'. |
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| 14:02.52 | xantian | free86-dev or xorg-dev or so |
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| 14:03.13 | dvm1981 | I think that i have forget to install somethings, but i can't figure out what. |
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| 14:03.45 | exalted | Hi. What is the license issues with "msttcorefonts" package please? |
| 14:04.02 | dvm1981 | With the main menu, i will say the menu when we click with the right mouse button on the desktop, |
| 14:04.05 | kspath | dvm1981: that is why you need to make yourself a checklist of what you want on your installs |
| 14:04.22 | iostream | Hmm, is it really not possible to specify a default IP-address daemons will bind to? (I'm thinking og daemons who have no built-in Bind setting) Currently they just bind to the interface last brought up? |
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| 14:04.43 | intero | exalted: zless /usr/share/doc/msttcorefonts/READ_ME\!.gz |
| 14:04.45 | dvm1981 | kspath: I have not good understand. |
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| 14:05.01 | cyzie | is it possible to allow a user to cd ONLY its home directory? meaning he/she cant cd to other directory. |
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| 14:05.06 | dvm1981 | On others computers i have not this problem |
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| 14:05.18 | kspath | dvm1981: sometimes it is not understanding but acceptance |
| 14:05.36 | xantian | cyzie fstab |
| 14:05.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | guys, what is an good option for xserver and an alternative to gnome for an server |
| 14:05.45 | exalted | intero, i don't have it installed on my system. |
| 14:05.46 | DJ-Marcuzz | running sarge |
| 14:05.50 | dvm1981 | Could someone help me please ? |
| 14:05.53 | cyzie | xantian, fstab again? can u explain how ? |
| 14:06.11 | xantian | DJ: yeah |
| 14:06.20 | dvm1981 | kspath: Yes, that i understand, |
| 14:06.29 | xantian | DJ: try freenx or get the fully www.nomachine.com |
| 14:06.43 | kspath | dvm1981: that is a problem? you have kde or gnome on some boxes and fluxbox or openbox on another? |
| 14:06.45 | xantian | thats working fine for me :P |
| 14:06.49 | dvm1981 | kspath: But i must not make the menu ? On i other computer the menu what automatical build |
| 14:07.21 | dvm1981 | kspath: Yes i have open 'Fluxbox' and some other and there i have the same problem |
| 14:07.31 | dewa | hhh |
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| 14:07.50 | xantian | cyzie: if you mdired the directory and chowned thats you inserted the line into the fstab |
| 14:08.05 | kspath | dvm1981: some distributions come with a populated menu I am not a fluxbox expert |
| 14:08.16 | xantian | another user cannot trying another directory to mount CDROM or HDD |
| 14:08.25 | dvm1981 | kspath: I am on Debian ! |
| 14:08.35 | kspath | dvm1981: ok! |
| 14:08.54 | xantian | only root can mount to another directory |
| 14:08.59 | cyzie | xantian, sorry i dont understand. can u explain with an example please? |
| 14:09.01 | dvm1981 | kspath: Hence me here |
| 14:09.09 | DJ-Marcuzz | xantian, i need an xserver and an alternative to gnome, i alraidy know how to use vnc to remote controll it |
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| 14:09.24 | kspath | dvm1981: as root try apt-cache search fluxbox maybe there is something else to install that you missed |
| 14:09.44 | KerPlunk_ | What is a good program to list all the programs I have.. |
| 14:09.58 | KerPlunk_ | Like multimedia etc...I am using fluxbox and I can't remember programs I'm using. |
| 14:10.04 | ncp | DJ-Marcuzz: alternative to gnome could be kde,xfce4 ore fluxbox |
| 14:10.06 | xantian | cyzie at the standard can only root mount into directory X or Y |
| 14:10.16 | kspath | KerPlunk_: ls can work for some people |
| 14:10.17 | dvm1981 | kspath: There are 2 packages ore one more, there are not so many stuff for it i think, so one of my reason to go to 'xfce' |
| 14:10.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | well xfce4 looks verry bad under sarge |
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| 14:10.45 | xantian | with the lines in the fstab give you rhigts to another users mount CDROM into 1 Direcrory |
| 14:10.49 | kspath | dvm1981: if you like xfce than that might be great |
| 14:10.54 | ncp | DJ-Marcuzz: how? i run sarge with xfce4 an look fine |
| 14:11.17 | xantian | DJ: i use KDE or XFCE |
| 14:11.30 | dvm1981 | kspath: On my 'testing' box there are a package that update the menu. I not found it here, i can't remember his name. Ok, starting my virtual pc to look ... |
| 14:11.30 | DJ-Marcuzz | well in ech it looks more modern, not the old look |
| 14:11.30 | kspath | dvm1981: I do not need a menu myself I know the applications by name and launch them by hand |
| 14:11.34 | cyzie | xantian, hehe..i dont understand. can you show me how this can be done with an example or can u point me to a link ? |
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| 14:11.59 | dvm1981 | kspath: So you are a king man ;-) |
| 14:12.16 | xantian | huh cyzie |
| 14:12.16 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 14:12.16 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
| 14:12.16 | dvm1981 | kspath: I like really a menu :-) |
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| 14:12.29 | kspath | dvm1981: no, maybe I am weak and only use a hand full of applications |
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| 14:12.59 | xantian | ach sorry cyzie |
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| 14:13.03 | cyzie | xantian, i just want an example. something just nwo u show me your fstab in pastebin. so i can follow. |
| 14:13.09 | cyzie | xantian, it's okay ;) |
| 14:13.16 | xantian | you mean ... |
| 14:13.18 | kspath | dvm1981: menus are useful on workstations with multiple users who might not know what all is installed already |
| 14:13.20 | xantian | fu* |
| 14:13.24 | xantian | :) |
| 14:13.42 | xantian | yes you can try this with juiles or so |
| 14:13.48 | c0redump | heY, i tried to install sarge, but couldn't get my network to work. Now i tried to boot the netinstall cd with kernel 2.6 and it works fine. is this a known error?? |
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| 14:14.29 | dvm1981 | kspath: Yes thats right, but its here for my main computer, it's my computer where i like to test stuff, so i would not like to not view one, because .... |
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| 14:14.46 | cyzie | xantian, is it possible for user only cd in his dir in sftp ? hehe |
| 14:14.47 | tunnuz`euei | hiii :) |
| 14:14.56 | tunnuz`euei | ok i'm back with the problem of the printer |
| 14:15.04 | tunnuz`euei | that makes my server boot in 1 hour |
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| 14:15.28 | tunnuz`euei | resume: the server on startup hangs on "lp0 using parport0 (polling)." |
| 14:15.33 | dvm1981 | kspath: I understand you right, im on the way of try it. So i fire up in some times 'Gnome' of 'KDE' or leave it for exeptional tests ... |
| 14:15.36 | tunnuz`euei | and then stops for 30 minutes, then i finishes booting |
| 14:15.39 | xantian | yes is it |
| 14:15.50 | xantian | i know now what you mean |
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| 14:15.58 | xantian | wait please my kiddies :P |
| 14:16.29 | dvm1981 | kspath: I resently (re)discovered 'xfce' and now .... :-) |
| 14:16.39 | cyzie | xantian, hehehe...okay but dont make me wait too long :P |
| 14:17.17 | xantian | so spongebob is on *lol |
| 14:17.18 | kspath | dvm1981: xfce is pretty and kinda nice but also kinda bloated and slow and big like gnome and kde |
| 14:17.53 | kspath | dvm1981: try putting ion openbox and fluxbox on a list of things to get to know for the future |
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| 14:18.54 | xantian | cyzie: try man chroot |
| 14:19.48 | cyzie | mmmm.. |
| 14:19.49 | xantian | cyzie: http://pastebin.com/506701 |
| 14:19.55 | xantian | example |
| 14:19.55 | dvm1981 | kspath: I have make a not :-) knowing about 'Fluxbox' so looking for 'ion openbox' |
| 14:19.56 | kspath | I wonder. If an executable is not in a menu, does it cease to exist for most people? |
| 14:19.56 | cyzie | xantian, woot |
| 14:20.40 | kspath | dvm1981: ion3 and openbox3 are separate things listed as ion and openbox in the repository |
| 14:20.48 | cyzie | xantian, what is the script do? |
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| 14:21.34 | xantian | script fake any login and block other directorys |
| 14:21.55 | kspath | Why is not ls listed in menus. It is an application. Does it need a GTK2 interface? |
| 14:22.08 | xantian | user can add/remove/edit but only in this directory |
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| 14:22.51 | xantian | cyzie: THIS SCRIPT IS AN EXAMPLE |
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| 14:23.33 | pawdro | how to upgrade firefox to the latest version in etch? |
| 14:23.38 | pawdro | to 1.5? |
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| 14:23.50 | pawdro | from official repos i can't |
| 14:23.56 | cyzie | xantian, okay. what about sftp then ? |
| 14:24.49 | KerPlunk_ | pawdro: You wait for the development team(maintainers) to finish it. |
| 14:24.51 | kspath | pawdro: get the binary from mozilla/firefox |
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| 14:25.07 | crypt_ex | xantian, what do you mean by 'xantian crypt_ex you must be installed X -dev pakages'? |
| 14:25.16 | xantian | crypt_ex try this |
| 14:25.26 | xantian | http://mail.incredimail.com/howto/openssh/addons/sftp-chroot.howto.txt |
| 14:25.41 | crypt_ex | ? k3b? |
| 14:25.53 | xantian | crypt_ex yes sure |
| 14:25.58 | pawdro | kspath: how can i upgrade firefox from sid? |
| 14:26.00 | xantian | cyzie sorry try this |
| 14:26.04 | xantian | http://mail.incredimail.com/howto/openssh/addons/sftp-chroot.howto.txt |
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| 14:26.26 | pawdro | kspath: and is it safe? |
| 14:26.36 | dvs | pawdro: No, it's not safe. |
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| 14:26.40 | kspath | pawdro: perhaps leave that firefox as is. Install the binary from mozilla and use it separate |
| 14:26.48 | dvs | pawdro: That's why kspath is telling you to wait |
| 14:26.50 | kspath | pawdro: is anything safe? |
| 14:26.54 | cyzie | thanks xantian. that is handy |
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| 14:27.09 | asg | kspath: certain things are safer than other things at least |
| 14:27.12 | crypt_ex | xantian, okay |
| 14:27.17 | kspath | asg: true |
| 14:27.26 | asg | !bobbitt |
| 14:27.26 | dpkg | Remember Lorena Bobbitt? Remember what she did to her husband's woody? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your woody, you get the same result. Same goes for Sarge. |
| 14:27.42 | dvs | That needs to be updated. ;-) |
| 14:27.52 | asg | dvs: we haven't found a really good analogy |
| 14:27.55 | asg | !englund |
| 14:27.55 | dpkg | Remember Lyndie Englund? Remember what she did to the Iraqis at Abu Ghraib? Well, when you install binary packages from different branches onto your sarge, you get the same result. |
| 14:27.56 | pawdro | dvs: ok ill leave it |
| 14:28.02 | kspath | asg: not exactly, this binary does not replace anything |
| 14:28.05 | asg | dvs: ^^^ best we could come up with |
| 14:28.12 | crypt_ex | xantian, you said that earlier regarding k3b, if I do the no gui option, that wont install it without the front? |
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| 14:28.34 | kspath | asg: it remains separate perhaps from a security or stability perspective |
| 14:28.43 | xantian | yes this is the first way :D |
| 14:28.52 | asg | kspath: indeed |
| 14:29.02 | xantian | 2tnd way ist aptget the X -dev pakagers |
| 14:29.09 | crypt_ex | ahh |
| 14:29.20 | crypt_ex | now I see where your coming from. |
| 14:29.35 | xantian | argh nit ist is lol german ist= english is |
| 14:29.38 | xantian | :D |
| 14:29.49 | crypt_ex | will try no gui, the get all the development packages lastly if I at first I do not suceed |
| 14:30.03 | kspath | asg: I used the 1.5 binary without issues for weeks and sometimes I use the older version instead. No, issues whatsoever. |
| 14:30.13 | asg | kspath: the one from mozilla.org? |
| 14:30.18 | xantian | crypt_ex try first the 2tnd way |
| 14:30.23 | kspath | asg: yes |
| 14:30.52 | asg | kspath: /me nods |
| 14:30.54 | asg | eep |
| 14:31.15 | kspath | asg: note I do not use any icky extentions/plugins to ruin anything |
| 14:31.28 | kspath | asg: for average site viewing dillo is great |
| 14:31.41 | crypt_ex | xantian, trying second way. |
| 14:31.51 | asg | kspath: mozex is the only one I use since editing textareas with anything other than vi makes me grumble :) |
| 14:32.12 | kspath | asg: you do not like vim? |
| 14:32.14 | asg | kspath: I agree with you in regards to dillo. I prefer lynx for non-braindead sites though |
| 14:32.23 | dvm1981 | kspath: It looks light 'openbox;. Good for my (very)slow laptop :-) |
| 14:32.36 | asg | kspath: vim, nvi, etc. Any reasonable vi clone is what I meant. |
| 14:32.47 | kspath | asg: links2 can be nice for tables |
| 14:32.52 | asg | true |
| 14:32.59 | dvm1981 | kspath: It mis just a menu with the applications that are installed. |
| 14:33.08 | crypt_ex | xantian, there are a lot of packages to do with x, how can I narrow down apt-cache search xorg? |
| 14:33.42 | xantian | aptget the dev pakages from xorg only |
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| 14:33.45 | dvm1981 | kspath: I must to look to personnalyse it, add a quick lauch and so |
| 14:34.12 | crypt_ex | ah, you mean x-dev - X protocol development files? |
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| 14:34.36 | kspath | dvm1981: look at aterm or wterm as replacement for xterm or eterm or whatever you might be using gnome-terminal and konsole are HUGE pigs |
| 14:34.46 | xantian | yep sorry |
| 14:34.58 | xantian | all xorg development files |
| 14:34.59 | asg | dvm1981: rxvt is useful for a low mem term |
| 14:35.00 | kspath | dvm1981: there is also mrxvt which is kinda neat |
| 14:35.20 | kspath | asg: aterm and wterm are basically rxvt |
| 14:35.42 | kspath | asg: I do agree completely that rxvt is "nice" |
| 14:35.52 | Phated | urxvt is good if you like UTF-8. |
| 14:35.54 | dvm1981 | ... copying usefull information to a note ... |
| 14:36.47 | kspath | Phated: Oh, sorry. Yeah that is great stuff. I had avoided UTF-8 for the longest. I am lazy apparently. |
| 14:36.56 | crypt_ex | xantian, that worked. New error. checking for libXext... no, configure: error: We need a working libXext to proceed. Since configure can't find it itself, we stop here assuming that make wouldn't find them either. |
| 14:37.32 | Phated | kspath: Heheh. |
| 14:37.36 | Phated | kspath: Me too. |
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| 14:39.28 | dvm1981 | kspath, asg : It's looks that i have no one of these installed on my system here, testing the suggested ... |
| 14:39.30 | xantian | run locate libXext |
| 14:39.43 | plazia | What happened to apt-setup? it seems the command has gone! |
| 14:39.47 | xantian | or aptcashe /aptsearch |
| 14:40.03 | crypt_ex | /usr/X11R6/lib/libXext.so.6 |
| 14:40.07 | kspath | dvm1981: I use stable so I likely will not be much help. |
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| 14:40.31 | crypt_ex | its present, but how do you tell the configure script that :S |
| 14:41.22 | Coweater | that's just a shared object, shouldn't it be looking for header files? |
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| 14:41.59 | dvm1981 | kspath: I use the both here, 'testing' in virtual pc and on my laptop. So im testing the 'testing' verion to swith go, it's really nice 'testing' |
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| 14:42.30 | syl-2 | i mounted my 2nd drive, the mount point is a directory owned by a non-root user. can anyone tell me why this user doesn't have any write access on this drive ? |
| 14:42.57 | xantian | crypt_ex: apt-get install libxext6-dbg libxext-dev libxext6 |
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| 14:43.07 | petemc | syl-2: because thats not how mount works |
| 14:44.00 | crypt_ex | xantian, all installed and still fails :( |
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| 14:44.16 | [Elvis] | how do I unzip a .tar.tar file? |
| 14:44.23 | asg | [Elvis]: /msg dpkg tar |
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| 14:44.27 | hid3 | Evening everyone. On the 1st of september (2005) I bought two identical brand new mainboards with two identical CPUs. Those two PCs act as ftp servers form my company. However, each of them hangs up quite often (when I connect a monitor, there's just blank screen, and only the reset button helps), each 10-14 days. The software on them is identical, both running 2.6.13 kernel. What can be wrong? |
| 14:44.32 | xantian | then try ./configure --help | grep xext |
| 14:44.38 | crypt_ex | k |
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| 14:45.13 | crypt_ex | damn, nothing :( |
| 14:45.13 | [Elvis] | there's no tar.tar there asg |
| 14:45.17 | asg | hid3: anything interesting in the logs? /var/log/kern.log, /var/log/syslog? Does this also occur if you use a 2.4.x series kernel |
| 14:45.18 | dvs | hid3: Did you hit the shift key after turning on the monitor? |
| 14:45.21 | crypt_ex | Not my day |
| 14:45.31 | dvm1981 | kspath: I like really 'testing' because i like the 'stable' version but with mush more recent packages, the look and feel and so have been advanced, some things are currently only availleble in 'testing', and it really work good. |
| 14:45.45 | hid3 | asg: the logs are empty. it just hangs up. |
| 14:45.48 | Coweater | [Elvis]: a tar.tar wouldn't make sense, untar it twice if you must but whoever made it was being silly |
| 14:45.52 | hid3 | dvs: no, what does that do? |
| 14:46.14 | dvs | hid3: Well, I guess if you hit any keys the screen blanker will go away. |
| 14:46.19 | [Elvis] | well the mythtv files are .tar .tar |
| 14:46.19 | asg | hid3: what debian version are you running? |
| 14:46.26 | hid3 | I tied typing, even tried to press ctrl-alt-del -- no reaction |
| 14:46.26 | [Elvis] | you think they renamed it wrongly? |
| 14:46.35 | hid3 | asg: debian sarge |
| 14:46.36 | asg | [Elvis]: possibly |
| 14:47.00 | asg | hid3: did you compile the 2.6.13 kernel yourself? try using sarge's 2.6.8 kernel or the 2.4.27 kernel and see if you get the same issue. |
| 14:47.02 | hid3 | dvs: tried typing and so on.. even the num lock doesn't light up |
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| 14:47.24 | asg | hid3: also, can you 'ssh' to the machine or is the whole completely locked up? |
| 14:47.38 | hid3 | asg: does that kernel has support for traffic shaping with HTB? |
| 14:47.57 | hid3 | no, even the ping does not respond |
| 14:47.58 | xantian | crypt_ex here http://pastebin.com/506733 |
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| 14:48.13 | crypt_ex | ok |
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| 14:48.25 | asg | hid3: I don't know offhand. It probably does unless HTB is very new to the kernel. |
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| 14:48.56 | hid3 | Will try to. Thanks. |
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| 14:49.12 | asg | !tell xantian about away |
| 14:49.37 | xantian | asg sorry :) |
| 14:49.38 | Shadowcat | how do you check open files handles in debian? |
| 14:49.44 | daxxar | lsof |
| 14:49.49 | daxxar | lsof -p<pid> |
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| 14:49.53 | xantian | so was the last |
| 14:50.11 | daxxar | I have a stalled lsof that doesn't reply to kill -9 |
| 14:50.15 | daxxar | Any suggestions? |
| 14:50.17 | Shadowcat | hmm... anybody know why xorg is binding /proc/acpi/event? |
| 14:50.18 | daxxar | Except reboot. ;p |
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| 14:50.37 | PENIXOR | lsof stalled? |
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| 14:50.51 | crypt_ex | xantian, installing xlibs-dev..... I have tried a symbolic link |
| 14:50.55 | daxxar | Well, froze. And I killed the process and its parent in hopes of it going away, didn't help. |
| 14:50.59 | daxxar | Due to a broken nfs connection. |
| 14:51.07 | daxxar | s/n f/ nf/ |
| 14:51.08 | crypt_ex | xlibs-dev is downloading 25Mb of stuff though |
| 14:51.09 | PENIXOR | oh |
| 14:51.20 | goron | Is there some software that graphically shows linear constraints and the feasible region? |
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| 14:53.54 | daxxar | It's strange, PENIXOR. |
| 14:54.10 | daxxar | lsof on the lsof shows it only having two pipes, a few libs and its CWD open |
| 14:54.15 | daxxar | Except for |
| 14:54.16 | daxxar | lsof 9545 root mem REG 0,0 0 [heap] (stat: No such file or directory) |
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| 14:56.12 | KerPlunk_ | What is a good way to make phone calls to land lines when I don't have a phone..but I have an internet connection and a laptop. |
| 14:56.24 | daxxar | VoIP? :-P |
| 14:56.25 | KerPlunk_ | Using tools with debian of course.. |
| 14:56.33 | KerPlunk_ | daxxar: apt-get install voip? |
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| 14:56.46 | daxxar | No, get a service-provider who provides VoIP access using SIP |
| 14:56.55 | daxxar | And set up a soft-phone on your laptop |
| 14:57.28 | KerPlunk_ | Are there any free service providors? |
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| 14:57.44 | KerPlunk_ | Or trial servicee providors..where I don't have to give out any personal information or credit card numbers. |
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| 14:59.11 | daxxar | That would depend on what country you live i. |
| 14:59.12 | daxxar | in |
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| 14:59.17 | daxxar | But I doubt it, that's a bit prone to abuse. |
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| 14:59.33 | ouiouioui | hello all |
| 14:59.51 | ouiouioui | i have a problem when i try to install the latest debian |
| 14:59.57 | ouiouioui | anyone can help me |
| 15:00.11 | asg | it would help to know what the problem was |
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| 15:00.50 | ouiouioui | i install debian with "linux26 noapci acpi=off pnpbios=off" |
| 15:01.16 | ouiouioui | but when i reboot i can see "missing kernel or user mode driver i810_audio " |
| 15:01.33 | ouiouioui | and it stop |
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| 15:01.55 | Gran_Kanji | I can install gnome unstable... |
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| 15:02.04 | ouiouioui | excuse my english i m french |
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| 15:02.08 | Gran_Kanji | *can |
| 15:02.14 | Gran_Kanji | *can't |
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| 15:03.00 | ouiouioui | nobody know how to help me |
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| 15:03.02 | ouiouioui | ? |
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| 15:03.04 | Gran_Kanji | in my list it is the "gnomemeeting" of testing instead the "gnomemeeting" of unstable and i can't install gnome |
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| 15:04.04 | asg | ouiouioui: /msg dpkg blacklist (prevent the system from trying to load that module) |
| 15:04.45 | ouiouioui | how use this string |
| 15:04.47 | ouiouioui | ? |
| 15:04.56 | asg | ouiouioui: type it in your irc client, our bot will give you the information |
| 15:05.22 | [Elvis] | how can I during a make let everything write to a file...so also the errors...because > doesn't do this |
| 15:05.47 | Gran_Kanji | The "gnome" pakages depends of "libebook1.2-5" but my "gnomemeeting" depend of "libebook1.2-3" and one library delete each other |
| 15:05.58 | Gran_Kanji | is this a bug of Debian? |
| 15:06.21 | asg | [Elvis]: you need to redirect both stderr and stdout |
| 15:06.26 | xantian | crypt_ex and solved youre problem? |
| 15:06.39 | [Elvis] | how asg? |
| 15:06.40 | asg | [Elvis]: man bash ; /REDIRECTION |
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| 15:07.13 | asg | Gran_Kanji: you mixed unstable and testing |
| 15:07.53 | ouiouioui | thank you asg |
| 15:08.04 | Gran_Kanji | now, but before I have only unstable and the problem was the same because don find libebbok1.2-3 pakage |
| 15:08.21 | ouiouioui | but i810_rng i810_audio and hw_randow are not important ? |
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| 15:08.26 | xantian | asg: i mixed testing unstable and experemental ;) no Problems ^^ |
| 15:08.30 | crypt_ex | xantian, I have just got configure to work :D |
| 15:08.35 | crypt_ex | thanks to you as though! |
| 15:08.51 | asg | xantian: then you have been lucky. Eventually you will have problems. |
| 15:09.04 | Gran_Kanji | It's imposible install gnome in unstable right now |
| 15:09.16 | xantian | hmm then i solve the problems :P @ asg |
| 15:09.16 | crypt_ex | xantian, have had to install a lot of development packages, for qt and kde. |
| 15:09.19 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, checked the bts? |
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| 15:09.28 | asg | Gran_Kanji: possibly, that's why its called unstable. Use stable if you can't fix it or deal. |
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| 15:09.49 | crypt_ex | The main problem is not solved yet though, I need k3b to burn this dvd |
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| 15:09.52 | s | hi all |
| 15:09.57 | s | how do i install kwrite ? |
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| 15:10.05 | ronove | apt-get install kwrite |
| 15:10.11 | xantian | crypt_ex: np dev pakages and QT will solve many of problems |
| 15:10.24 | s | E: Couldn't find package kwrite |
| 15:10.25 | Gran_Kanji | if i want i can install the before version of gnome but I ant the last |
| 15:10.28 | s | tyr it already |
| 15:10.31 | crypt_ex | xantian, I suppose its always good to have them installed |
| 15:10.32 | Matt-H | s: apt-get install kate |
| 15:10.32 | s | *try |
| 15:10.32 | asg | s: probably by installing koffice |
| 15:10.33 | mrex | installing debian on an old machine, got it going from floppies with 2.0 kernel and the net is working. I can't to apt-get update: if i use one of the debian-archive distributions it complains that the packages are not a plain file |
| 15:10.39 | |jpm|in|unix_lik | apt-get install xorg thats it?? |
| 15:10.49 | flawd | I am using testing. Despite if I set subtitles.separate.subtitle_size:huge or subtitles.separate.subtitle_size:tiny in my ~/.gnome2/totem_config, the subtitle shows the same size in totem |
| 15:10.53 | Gran_Kanji | when I can donwload of the debian page package manually= |
| 15:10.54 | s | Matt-H kate its not kwrite is it ? |
| 15:10.55 | Gran_Kanji | ? |
| 15:11.07 | Gran_Kanji | I never can |
| 15:11.10 | mrex | if i use one of the stable or oldstable etc distributions, it complains that some line in the package list is too long... what to do? |
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| 15:11.35 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, gnomemeeting from unstable depends on libebook1.2-5, gnomemeeting from testing depends on libebook1.2-3. |
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| 15:11.44 | xantian | crypt_ex good is if its running :) |
| 15:11.52 | s | Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server |
| 15:11.52 | s | Xlib: Invalid MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE-1 key |
| 15:11.52 | s | kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0.0 |
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| 15:12.02 | s | i get this when i try to run kwrite |
| 15:12.03 | cheal | mrex: linux 2.0 is neither in stable or oldstable |
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| 15:12.26 | xantian | s try kwrite not as root |
| 15:12.28 | Gran_Kanji | Eulex: yes, In my list instead of the gnomemeeting that depends of 1.2-5 I have the gnomemeeting that depends of 1.2-5 |
| 15:12.29 | mrex | but it must be in buzz, slink etc (debian-archive) |
| 15:12.32 | cheal | s: kwrite is already installed |
| 15:12.34 | Matt-H | s: then it's installed already |
| 15:12.42 | GaiaX11 | My synaptic cannot access any FTP server. Anyone could help me to fix this problem? |
| 15:12.55 | cheal | mrex: probably. those releases are no more supported anyway |
| 15:12.56 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, what? |
| 15:12.57 | s | xantian well i have to be root to edit /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc |
| 15:13.01 | Gran_Kanji | Eulex: What have you in your synaptic list? |
| 15:13.02 | mrex | however, it refuses to do an apt-get update properly, so I can't start upgrading, cheal |
| 15:13.07 | brosiozzz | i get conflicts with base-system and locales and i remove base-system now how could install all debian packgae of base ? |
| 15:13.13 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, what does that have to do with anything? |
| 15:13.14 | Gran_Kanji | jeje, i spanish i don speak very well |
| 15:13.24 | mrex | so how do i install debian on a low memory system and then step it up to a 2,6 kernel, cheal? |
| 15:13.26 | cheal | GaiaX11: what's the problem? |
| 15:13.29 | xantian | try as user "kdesu $PROG |
| 15:13.55 | cheal | mrex: "low memory" is vague |
| 15:13.58 | asg | mrex: take the drive and put it in a system with sufficient memory to do the install. Then put the drive in the lowmem system. |
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| 15:14.24 | s | xantian ok then it might be better to install vi .. it doesn need x |
| 15:14.29 | mrex | cheal, 16M ram |
| 15:14.30 | s | xantian apt-get install vi ? |
| 15:14.30 | GaiaX11 | When i ran synaptic and ask to update it does not access any FTP repository. |
| 15:14.42 | Eulex | anyway, gotta go |
| 15:14.44 | xantian | s: or use mc -e /etc/etc/etc |
| 15:14.54 | Gran_Kanji | Eulex: In debian package page unestable section in list gone: Package: gnomemeeting (1.2.3-1+b2, 1.2.3-1) depends: libebook1.2-5 |
| 15:14.54 | mrex | asg, nice idea, will try sometime, was just lazy to move the HD. |
| 15:14.56 | xantian | apt-get install mc |
| 15:14.58 | cheal | GaiaX11: while apt-get update does? |
| 15:15.10 | andreus | i have a problem concerning configuring xfree86 on debian.. installed on fujitsu siemens amilo laptop.. screen resolution just won't go above 800x600.. please help |
| 15:15.13 | GaiaX11 | No. It does not |
| 15:15.16 | Gran_Kanji | but in my unstable synaptic list it gone: Package: gnomemeeting (1.2.3-1) depends: libebook1.2-3 |
| 15:15.19 | Gran_Kanji | this is the problem |
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| 15:15.35 | asg | mrex: sometimes, it's the only way. |
| 15:16.01 | cheal | GaiaX11: then it's not a synaptic issue |
| 15:16.02 | xantian | Gran_Kanji: if you help this then try apt-get -f install |
| 15:16.03 | asg | andreus: check tuxmobile.org for the laptop model and see if there are any install docs that list workarounds. |
| 15:16.06 | mrex | andreus, what amilo? and what does the log say? |
| 15:16.21 | Eulex | xantian, if you have no clue then don't answer. |
| 15:16.44 | xantian | Eulex this CAN help |
| 15:16.52 | andreus | asg: thanks |
| 15:16.54 | Eulex | xantian, not in this case. |
| 15:16.54 | Gran_Kanji | -f install don |
| 15:17.06 | Gran_Kanji | 't go |
| 15:17.06 | Eulex | xantian, in fact, it has nothing to do with his problem. |
| 15:17.20 | andreus | mrex: AMD sempron 3300+ |
| 15:17.22 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, two possibilities: 1. you haven't run apt-get update 2. you've chosen a bad mirror |
| 15:17.24 | GaiaX11 | I do not know but i installed xampp and it asked me a password for proftpd and i gave it. Then i removed that. And the problem still remains. |
| 15:17.27 | xantian | Eulex you know better :) |
| 15:17.32 | andreus | mrex: onboard SiS 128mb video |
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| 15:18.26 | Gran_Kanji | this is my sources.list: |
| 15:18.28 | Gran_Kanji | deb ftp://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 15:18.28 | Gran_Kanji | # deb-src ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable main contrib |
| 15:18.28 | Gran_Kanji | deb ftp://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 15:18.28 | Gran_Kanji | # deb-src ftp://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib |
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| 15:18.52 | mrex | andreus, i have FS, but its got a nvidia card. what is the log complaining about? |
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| 15:19.07 | GaiaX11 | I think it is related with ftp password that i changed. |
| 15:19.26 | s | xantian whats your gtk theme ? because on my desktop i cannot see anything everything its so small even if i make my resolution bigger , the menu and the font it still small any ideea ? |
| 15:19.40 | GaiaX11 | But, I do not know how to fix that. |
| 15:19.41 | Gran_Kanji | this is my sources.list |
| 15:19.49 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, don't |
| 15:19.52 | paivakil | Gran_Kanji: you need to wait for a few more days for the developers to include the later versions of the packages |
| 15:19.59 | Gran_Kanji | deb ftp://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib |
| 15:19.59 | andreus | mrex: what is default log location?.. after configuring it doesn't complain, i simply rewrite my config in /etc/X11/XF86Config and restart |
| 15:20.00 | Gran_Kanji | deb ftp://ftp2.fr.debian.org/debian/ testing main non-free contrib |
| 15:20.03 | brosiozzz | i get conflicts with base-system and locales and i remove base-system now how could install all debian packgae of base ? |
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| 15:20.09 | xantian | s: i have my own Theme |
| 15:20.11 | Eulex | !tell Gran_Kanji about paster |
| 15:20.22 | Gran_Kanji | I have good mirror? |
| 15:20.25 | s | xantian hmm . ok but what will be best ? |
| 15:20.34 | mrex | look in /var/log/..... (XFree something).log |
| 15:20.39 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, how would we know? |
| 15:21.09 | Gran_Kanji | what? |
| 15:21.31 | paivakil | Gran_Kanji: such issues are common with sid/unstable; wait for a few days for the problems to be resolved |
| 15:21.32 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, if it's a bad mirror or not. |
| 15:21.45 | Gran_Kanji | ok |
| 15:21.51 | xantian | s: sorry i dont know what is the best for you |
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| 15:22.11 | lunk | do i need both the netinst cd and the binary-1 cd? I've got a p2-200 and don't really want to compile everything |
| 15:22.13 | mrex | andreaus, what does the log say |
| 15:22.21 | s | xantian well i just wanna have proper menu so i can see them :) |
| 15:22.21 | paivakil | lunk: depends |
| 15:22.24 | Gran_Kanji | if i can download the package that are in debian package page it would be the best |
| 15:22.31 | lunk | paivakil: i don't want to download anything over a modem either |
| 15:22.33 | andreus | mrex: (II) SIS(0): Not using default mode "800x600" (vrefresh out of range).. and so on |
| 15:22.42 | asg | lunk: erm, debian is a binary distro, not a source distro. You don't have to compile anything. |
| 15:22.43 | andreus | mrex: unknown reason for 1280x1024 etc. |
| 15:22.56 | paivakil | lunk: then do a net inst and add the cd1 using `apt-cdrom add` |
| 15:23.16 | asg | lunk: if the netinst disc supports you network card, use it. |
| 15:23.17 | Eulex | paivakil, gnomemeeting in unstable depends on libebook1.2-5 here. he has aither not run apt-get update recently or he has chosen a mirror that is a little slow. potentially broken. |
| 15:23.17 | lunk | spiffy, does CD1 have X and stuff on it already? |
| 15:23.22 | Gran_Kanji | but the page say that the service is down at the moment due to performance issues. |
| 15:23.25 | brosiozzz | vlc is unaviable on unstable ? |
| 15:23.32 | lunk | asg: modem. i don't even want to support it! :P |
| 15:23.36 | asg | lunk: yes. /msg dpkg cd contents (if you are curious what is contained.) |
| 15:23.58 | stg | what is the most appropriate expression for a plan of a conference: schedule, agenda or program?? |
| 15:24.00 | mrex | andreus, then increase your HorizSync and VertSync in the config file, it seems they may have been set to low by some config program. What are they? |
| 15:24.00 | paivakil | Gran_Kanji: when was the last time you issued the commad `apt-get update'? |
| 15:24.06 | Gran_Kanji | i have speak with more people and have the same gnomemeeting that me |
| 15:24.09 | stg | (pls only native speakers:) |
| 15:24.20 | paivakil | s/comand/command |
| 15:24.22 | Gran_Kanji | I have done a lot |
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| 15:24.38 | asg | stg: try #english |
| 15:24.49 | andreus | mrex: any damage may be caused? |
| 15:25.02 | paivakil | Gran_Kanji: please do two things (1) as root, do `apt-get update' (2) as root, say `apt-get install gnomemeeting' |
| 15:25.24 | lunk | woah, 14 cd's total, haha |
| 15:25.24 | mrex | andreus, not sure with lcd's, I havent had a problem, but don't set it too high. what are they now? |
| 15:25.24 | Eulex | andreus, not if you haven't got a stone age monitor. |
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| 15:25.44 | mrex | andreaus, it it a 15" monitor? |
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| 15:26.07 | asg | lunk: you can get a cheap supported ethernet card or modem on ebay for $5. It's worth the investment. |
| 15:26.22 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, the gnomemeeting in unstable does depend on libebook1.2-5. |
| 15:26.26 | Eulex | anyway, gotta go... |
| 15:26.36 | andreus | mrex: if my eyes aren't blind.. it seems like it's ~15" |
| 15:26.41 | Gran_Kanji | The next pakage have uncompleted dependencies: |
| 15:26.44 | Gran_Kanji | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:26.44 | Gran_Kanji | E: broken package |
| 15:27.00 | flawd | I am using testing. Despite if I set subtitles.separate.subtitle_size:huge or subtitles.separate.subtitle_size:tiny in my ~/.gnome2/totem_config, the subtitle shows the same size in totem |
| 15:27.06 | Gran_Kanji | have you see the gnomemeeting of your computer? |
| 15:27.16 | lunk | asg: i want to make sure i have everything to do a basic offline install. Does the 1st binary cd have the installer and stuff on it too? |
| 15:27.23 | asg | Gran_Kanji: well, use 'apt-get -t unstable install gnomemeeting'. That will get the version in unstable and all the dependances (i.e. a lot of stuff) |
| 15:27.41 | asg | lunk: the 1st disc should have all you need including a compiler if you need to build a custom kernel. |
| 15:27.57 | lunk | asg: cool deal, thanks |
| 15:28.01 | asg | lunk: you're welcome |
| 15:28.05 | Gran_Kanji | I have done now I the message is the same |
| 15:28.22 | mrex | andreaus, maybe try 31.5-80 for horiz and 50-75 for vert |
| 15:28.23 | Gran_Kanji | And I have done apt-get -t unstable install gnomemeeting |
| 15:28.43 | DJ-Marcuzz | what file system should i put on an file server? |
| 15:28.50 | DJ-Marcuzz | ext3? jfs? xfs? |
| 15:29.02 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: it depends on what your requirements are and what and how many files will be stored. |
| 15:29.19 | DJ-Marcuzz | well 750GB |
| 15:29.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | should be uncrasheble |
| 15:29.28 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: /msg dpkg fs comparison (for some ideas and benchmarks) |
| 15:29.32 | Gran_Kanji | Please, see the dependencies of your gnomemeeting in synaptic |
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| 15:29.48 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: ext3 + raid5 is pretty uncrashable. |
| 15:30.05 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok :) |
| 15:30.15 | DJ-Marcuzz | and jfs and stuff? |
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| 15:30.21 | Shadowcat | asg: now type dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/sda1 |
| 15:30.22 | Gran_Kanji | In debian unstable page put one version, but in my synaptic unstable list it is other |
| 15:30.23 | Shadowcat | :) |
| 15:30.31 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: better performing, usually a little more unstable. |
| 15:30.35 | lookie | O.o rm -rf / |
| 15:30.40 | asg | Shadowcat: ext3 doesn't protect against PEBCAK |
| 15:30.49 | asg | Shadowcat: unless you mount it ro |
| 15:30.49 | Shadowcat | !pebkac |
| 15:30.49 | dpkg | pebkac is probably Problem Exists Between Keyboard And Chair, or PEBCAK. PEBMAC, PICNIC. PEBRHAL, or http://pebkac.ubergoth.net/ |
| 15:31.49 | asg | lookie: single biggest mistake quick typists make is 'rm -Rf / tmp/somedir' when they mean 'rm -Rf /tmp/somedir' |
| 15:31.49 | lookie | between keyboard and chair? you |
| 15:32.03 | asg | lookie: PEBCAK == Operator Error |
| 15:32.15 | andreus | mrex: done, any way to restart X without restarting the whole system.. i am not much advanced *nix-wise |
| 15:32.17 | abrotman | or operator stupidity |
| 15:32.24 | [Elvis] | is there any way to scroll up in a xterm |
| 15:32.24 | flawd | anyone who sucessfully has changed the subtitle font size on totem using debian testing? |
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| 15:32.35 | asg | [Elvis]: shift+pgup |
| 15:32.36 | pawdro | when i press right button in xmms there's very small font and for ex. in nero also small font in entire programm, how can i change the size of font? |
| 15:32.39 | mrex | in X, press ctl+alt+backspace |
| 15:32.44 | plazia | What happened to apt-setup? it seems the command has gone! |
| 15:32.52 | lookie | windows is pebcak for a long time |
| 15:32.53 | asg | plazia: it was removed in sid some months back |
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| 15:33.14 | s | xantian where do i have to go , so i can change the menu size ? like the menu from xhcat and all windows ? |
| 15:33.19 | abrotman | mrex: that's not a restart |
| 15:33.23 | plazia | asg: thanks. is there a reason why or a link to information about that. |
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| 15:33.38 | plazia | I'm sure since this is Debian, there was a good reason for it. |
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| 15:33.45 | asg | plazia: iirc, it is in preparation for the installer providing that functionality. Don't quote me on that though. |
| 15:33.48 | mrex | abrotman: really? i seemed to think it did it for me. sorry then. |
| 15:33.48 | DJ-Marcuzz | hhmm, im looking at XFS, is it recommand or not? |
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| 15:34.02 | plazia | asg: thanks very much. I now know 10 times more than I did 1 minute ago :) |
| 15:34.05 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: by some people yes .. by others no ... |
| 15:34.10 | DJ-Marcuzz | its for an server with mostly iso and likwise big file |
| 15:34.15 | _ganymed | hallo everybody |
| 15:34.19 | _ganymed | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:34.21 | Gran_Kanji | I will have to wait that debian put the good "gnomemeeting" package that depends of libebook1.2-5 for install gnome... |
| 15:34.26 | SeicherlBoB | I'm looking for some kind of trashcan-tool for deb. can anybody help me? i've heard there are some projects. |
| 15:34.30 | asg | plazia: you might want to read joey hess' blog on planet.debian.org for more details on d-i stuff. |
| 15:34.48 | plazia | asg: I shall. once again many thanks |
| 15:34.53 | asg | plazia: you're welcome |
| 15:34.58 | abrotman | though i don't recall his blog mentioning apt-setup |
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| 15:35.01 | mrex | andreaus, then go to a terminal (ctl+alt+F1), log in and kill X using killall XFree86 (I think, just check what its called using ps -A) and then /etc/init.d/gdm (or xdm) restart |
| 15:35.01 | iluvatar` | hi |
| 15:35.12 | crypt_ex | ah I have compiled k3b from source and can still not burn a dvd, any other dvd burning software I can try? |
| 15:35.15 | asg | SeicherlBoB: libtrash |
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| 15:35.22 | SeicherlBoB | asg: thanks! |
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| 15:35.26 | abrotman | mrex: restarting gdm/etc will kill X |
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| 15:35.40 | asg | SeicherlBoB: it basically does a memory overlay of the unlink system calls to provide the functionality. |
| 15:35.42 | DJ-Marcuzz | abrotman, well ext3 is default :P |
| 15:35.46 | [Elvis] | does anyone know where tiffio.h is found?: |
| 15:35.56 | drizzd | crypt_ex: i'm using dvd+rw-tools |
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| 15:36.00 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: well .. use whatever you want .. it's your server ... |
| 15:36.13 | abrotman | !tell [Elvis] about search |
| 15:36.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | yes but your the pro's you could tell if xfs is better the ext3 :P |
| 15:36.22 | crypt_ex | drizzd, how do you use them then? |
| 15:36.24 | abrotman | |splat|: fix your ISP |
| 15:36.32 | abrotman | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about fs comparison |
| 15:36.32 | crypt_ex | drizzd, I have that installed. |
| 15:36.36 | SeicherlBoB | asg: i'm having a look on that. thanks! |
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| 15:36.41 | asg | SeicherlBoB: you're welcome |
| 15:36.50 | Gran_Kanji | someone that use unstable can help me and see of what "libebook" version depends his "gnomemeeting"? |
| 15:37.02 | mrex | andreus, any luck? |
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| 15:37.23 | drizzd | crypt_ex: su -c 'growisofs -Z /dev/dvd -J -r /path/to/files' |
| 15:37.28 | abrotman | !es |
| 15:37.28 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 15:37.30 | asg | Gran_Kanji: /msg dpkg depends gnomemeeting sid |
| 15:37.36 | drizzd | crypt_ex: there is a lot of documentation on their homepage |
| 15:37.42 | andreus | mrex: none, checking config.. i've used xf86config.. will do it manually now |
| 15:37.51 | crypt_ex | thanks drizzd |
| 15:37.53 | Gran_Kanji | i know mine |
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| 15:38.04 | Gran_Kanji | I want to know of your "gnomemeeting" |
| 15:38.08 | asg | Gran_Kanji: /msg dpkg depends gnomemeeting sid |
| 15:38.09 | abrotman | if you've used xf86config .. unless you fix the md5 file .. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 won't work |
| 15:38.27 | iluvatar` | sorry guys, someone can help me? I have installed artwiz fonts, but I can't succeed to use them. xfd, xlsfonts, xfontsel display them...but when I want to use them with fluxbox's themes, X don't load them. Where is the problem ? |
| 15:38.28 | Gran_Kanji | to know if is of my package or of debian |
| 15:38.28 | _ganymed | is there any way to access a root system on an md (reiserfs) with the standard etch kernel and initrd? |
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| 15:38.40 | abrotman | Gran_Kanji: dpkg -l gnomemeeting | tail -1 |
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| 15:38.52 | TGoC|AFK | http://www.completeevil.com/geek.html |
| 15:39.13 | Gran_Kanji | I want to know of your gnomemeeting, not mine |
| 15:39.20 | abrotman | !info gnomemeeting sid |
| 15:39.22 | dpkg | gnomemeeting: (The GnomeMeeting Voice Over IP Suite), section gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.3-1 (sid), Packaged size: 3521 kB, Installed size: 10364 kB |
| 15:39.30 | asg | Gran_Kanji: /msg dpkg depends gnomemeeting sid (that will tell you what we all have) |
| 15:39.52 | asg | TGoC: that's very old |
| 15:39.53 | andreus | mrex: heh. config file is untouched.. perhaps xf86config wrote it somewhere else? |
| 15:39.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | XFS wins |
| 15:40.10 | TGoC | asg so? |
| 15:40.16 | Gran_Kanji | ... |
| 15:40.16 | Eulex | Gran_Kanji, gnomemeeting in unstable does depend on libebook1.2-5 |
| 15:40.16 | abrotman | make sure you have an UPS for XFS |
| 15:40.22 | DJ-Marcuzz | why? |
| 15:40.23 | TGoC | You are older then it, and you don't hear me call you old |
| 15:40.27 | abrotman | Gran_Kanji: habla espanol ? |
| 15:40.33 | asg | TGoC: chances are most people have already read it. Besides, it has dick to do with #debian |
| 15:40.35 | mrex | andreus, maybe and it usually makes quite a mess of the file. I prefer using dexconf and then editing the file by hand. |
| 15:40.36 | s | is it normal that when apt runs , i cannot do anything else , i mean tying to move my mouse hangs while apt s running |
| 15:40.37 | Gran_Kanji | si, soy español |
| 15:40.42 | iluvatar` | someone can help me ? |
| 15:40.49 | abrotman | Gran_Kanji: por favor .. /join #debian-es |
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| 15:40.57 | TGoC | asg it's just funny |
| 15:41.04 | iluvatar` | I don't know where looking for |
| 15:41.06 | TGoC | But ok, i'll stfu |
| 15:41.14 | Gran_Kanji | ya estoy unido... pero vine aqui por más ayuda |
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| 15:42.16 | Gran_Kanji | only see your own gnomemeeting package and say me from what "libebook" depends |
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| 15:42.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, what is better then XFS, JFS or reiser? becaus ext3 eats space away |
| 15:42.42 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: eats space away? |
| 15:42.43 | asg | !ricerfs |
| 15:42.43 | dpkg | ricerfs is, like, the firework rocket of filesystems - it goes very fast then blows up with all your data. See "reiserfs" for real info. |
| 15:42.45 | DJ-Marcuzz | i don't have an ups and stuff |
| 15:42.54 | SeicherlBoB | asg: ok, installed libtrash... and what to do now? there is no manpage, no nothing!? |
| 15:42.58 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: if you have no UPS .. use ext3 |
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| 15:43.09 | asg | SeicherlBoB: check /usr/share/doc/libtrash/* for a README.Debian |
| 15:43.20 | DJ-Marcuzz | but that eats lots of space :| |
| 15:43.23 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: if you are worried about wasted space, use a smaller blocksize for the filesystem. |
| 15:43.29 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: eats space ? |
| 15:43.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | yeah |
| 15:43.42 | abrotman | how does it eat space? |
| 15:43.43 | TGoC | DJ-Marcuzz it does not, your installation does... |
| 15:43.44 | SeicherlBoB | asg: oh... thanks! |
| 15:43.45 | lookie | s/est/take |
| 15:43.45 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: also, look at some of the more exotic ext3 options |
| 15:44.26 | asg | heh |
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| 15:44.45 | DJ-Marcuzz | abrotman, i turnt that option off |
| 15:44.57 | DJ-Marcuzz | so asg what options? |
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| 15:45.05 | TGoC | DJ-Marcuzz quote limits |
| 15:45.06 | TGoC | :p |
| 15:45.10 | abrotman | DJ-Marcuzz: what option? .. how does ext3 eat space? |
| 15:45.31 | abrotman | oh fuck it.. use XFS/reiser/jfs . lose your data .. doesn't bother me |
| 15:45.35 | DJ-Marcuzz | check here: http://linuxgazette.net/122/piszcz.html |
| 15:45.40 | andreus | mrex: could you repeat what you said recently.. preferable v,h refresh rates? |
| 15:45.50 | DJ-Marcuzz | i don't wanna lose data :S |
| 15:45.53 | TGoC | DJ-Marcuzz either you're stupid or you are seeing things that do not exist or you should get yourself a much bigger harddisk |
| 15:46.11 | abrotman | NoboruKun: don't msg me .. ask in the channel |
| 15:46.24 | NoboruKun | oh |
| 15:47.08 | mrex | andreaus, maybe try 31.5-80 for horiz and 50-75 for vert |
| 15:47.11 | Oryn | anyone know how to set a timeout for a script in bash? (I want to run a script and give it 5 seconds to run, if it takes longer it put into the back ground) |
| 15:47.23 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: ext3 uses 4k blocks by default. 10,000 tiny files will waste space obviously. If you are going to store lots of tiny files, use a smaller block size. |
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| 15:47.36 | TGoC | DJ-Marcuzz if you read carefully |
| 15:47.56 | TGoC | EXT3 and EXT2 beat JFS XFS and reiser |
| 15:48.14 | TGoC | XFS is no longer the slowest filesystem for removing many files. However, EXT2 and EXT3 still win by far. |
| 15:48.54 | asg | Oryn: try #bash |
| 15:49.05 | Oryn | asg: thanks :) |
| 15:49.08 | brosiozzz | vlc is unaviable on unstable ? i get conflicts when i try to install it |
| 15:49.09 | brosiozzz | ! |
| 15:49.15 | asg | brosiozzz: check the bts |
| 15:49.32 | DJ-Marcuzz | im using ext3 now, with stride and 4k block size, becaus i have lots of iso files or should i us e bigger blocksize then? |
| 15:49.48 | s | ls gtk-theme-switch 2 available via apt now ? |
| 15:49.54 | TGoC | ReiserFSv3 won the last benchmarking round; however, EXT2 and EXT3 now dominate this test. |
| 15:49.55 | TGoC | rofl |
| 15:50.03 | _ganymed | since has ext3 been able to beat reiserfs...? |
| 15:50.03 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: define 'lots of iso files' How many? |
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| 15:50.05 | crypt_ex | Whats the command to find out the servers load, not top though. |
| 15:50.07 | sdakota | Hi... |
| 15:50.21 | lookie | hi |
| 15:50.21 | sdakota | how to protect my server against certain attacks like DDoS? |
| 15:50.30 | DJ-Marcuzz | lets say 2 or 3 per game and 50 games, is 100 to 150 |
| 15:50.36 | asg | crypt_ex: what type of load are you measuring? |
| 15:50.44 | drizzd | crypt_ex: do you mean uptime? |
| 15:50.52 | DJ-Marcuzz | size from 300 to 1500MB |
| 15:50.53 | crypt_ex | ah |
| 15:50.59 | crypt_ex | thats the one thannks drizzd |
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| 15:51.05 | crypt_ex | asg, uptime is the command. |
| 15:51.06 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: if the files are only 100 or so, any filesystem will work |
| 15:51.17 | asg | crypt_ex: or vmstat |
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| 15:55.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | there is nore to come |
| 15:55.58 | _ganymed | as far as i know, nothing is faster than reiserfs4... and ext3, when i saw a benchmark last time was the slowest of all (slower than ext2 for obvious reasons) [linux magazin] |
| 15:55.59 | TGoC | DJ-Marcuzz |
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| 15:55.59 | TGoC | Just use EXT3 |
| 15:55.59 | TGoC | ;) |
| 15:55.59 | crypt_ex | asg, wow thats a new one! |
| 15:55.59 | jason | which apache .conf file do you place your ip address in? |
| 15:55.59 | asg | DJ-Marcuzz: I thought you were talking in the 10's of thoussands or 100's of thousands |
| 15:55.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | im using nwow |
| 15:55.59 | syphox | heya.. i need to bin "vgcreate" and "pvscan".. which package should i apt-get install for these? |
| 15:55.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | with the stride option i read about |
| 15:55.59 | DJ-Marcuzz | and 4k blocks |
| 15:56.00 | TGoC | jason: /join #apache |
| 15:56.00 | asg | crypt_ex: vmstat 5 (disregard the first line as it's an average since boot) That will give you better metrics on your system. |
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| 15:56.00 | nut543 | Does anyone know why i cannot reach any sites with IE in wine? i used to could do that.. |
| 15:56.00 | sdakota | how to protect my server against certain attacks like DDoS? are there any firewalls for Debian that have protection for that? |
| 15:56.00 | abrotman | ask #winehq ? |
| 15:56.00 | jason | TGoC, but i am using debian and i installed using apt |
| 15:56.00 | crypt_ex | cool, thanks mate |
| 15:56.01 | TGoC | jason that doesn't matter since you need something that is entirely apache |
| 15:56.01 | jason | ahhh.. |
| 15:56.01 | crypt_ex | asg, you dont know of a simple command to see if the swap is being accessed or not? |
| 15:56.01 | asg | sdakota: how much inbound bandwidth do you have? define the DDoS attack types you want to protect against? |
| 15:56.01 | asg | crypt_ex: free. vmstat also shows it |
| 15:56.01 | TGoC | asg: asg > /dev/null |
| 15:56.01 | crypt_ex | asg, under the si and so? |
| 15:56.01 | asg | crypt_ex: yes |
| 15:56.02 | sdakota | asg: I've got 3mbit down |
| 15:56.02 | crypt_ex | asg, if it > 0 then its being accessed. |
| 15:56.02 | sdakota | asg: I want to be protected to all attacks possible to protect against, actually |
| 15:56.02 | asg | crypt_ex: yes |
| 15:56.02 | threat | syphox, apt-get install lvm2 |
| 15:56.02 | crypt_ex | Brilliant |
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| 15:56.03 | asg | sdakota: an attack will saturate your inbound bandwidth but your ISP will have to handle it; your system can easily handle 3MB/s. If you are talking application level attacks, most daemons have some form of rate limiting on inbound connections. |
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| 15:56.03 | asg | TGoC: ? |
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| 15:56.03 | asg | TGoC: do you want me to shut up or are you claiming I'm better than nothing? |
| 15:56.04 | sdakota | asg: Conclusion, I don't have to do anything? |
| 15:56.04 | TGoC | asg lol... second |
| 15:56.04 | abrotman | asg: or perhaps he's a tard? :) |
| 15:56.04 | TGoC | i don't wanna hurt your feelings :) |
| 15:56.04 | Justin | sdakota: no, Conclusion, if someone has it in for you you are fucked and there is nothing you can do |
| 15:56.04 | asg | sdakota: not on a 3MB pipe, no. |
| 15:56.04 | TGoC | abrotman if i were i would've said: asg > /dev/crap but i don't :) |
| 15:56.08 | abrotman | right ... |
| 15:56.10 | sdakota | Justin, asg, Ok, thanks |
| 15:56.17 | asg | TGoC: for the former, you'd have to do 2> /dev/null 2>&1 since I talk on stderr also ;) |
| 15:56.20 | cheloo | how do i install gtk2 ? |
| 15:56.29 | Justin | !wayttd cheloo |
| 15:56.29 | dpkg | What Are You Trying To Do, cheloo? |
| 15:56.38 | lookie | haha, /dev/recyclebin |
| 15:56.48 | _ganymed | so any ideas about multidevice support in a standard etch kernel? |
| 15:56.58 | TGoC | asg, i have no idea what you just said |
| 15:57.01 | cheloo | Justin well i want to install a few gtk themes because the one i have now its not good . the menus and fonts are to small |
| 15:57.07 | asg | TGoC: man bash ; /REDIRECTION |
| 15:57.07 | abrotman | asg: yep ... that confirms it |
| 15:57.17 | asg | abrotman: time for a smoke and another beer |
| 15:57.18 | TGoC | not needed asg |
| 15:57.20 | Justin | cheloo: so change your font size |
| 15:57.28 | abrotman | asg: erg .. no more beer |
| 15:57.30 | TGoC | i kinda know what * > * does |
| 15:57.35 | TGoC | and that's alll i need to know ;) |
| 15:57.52 | cheloo | Justin yeah but still, if i canhge the font size in xchat like example its not gonna get change |
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| 15:58.14 | cheloo | Justin now when i look at the list whos in the channels the list is tooo small |
| 15:58.16 | abrotman | cheloo: did you change your gtk1 or gtk2 font ? |
| 15:58.20 | Justin | cheloo: are you using gnome, or just some gtk applications? |
| 15:58.28 | cheloo | Justin kde |
| 15:58.38 | cheloo | abrotman no i didnt ,, i dont know how |
| 15:58.55 | cheloo | abrotman thats why i said it might be better to use gtk2 instead 1 |
| 15:59.41 | sdakota | but áre there any firewalls for debian? |
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| 15:59.47 | sdakota | installable using apt-get? |
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| 15:59.49 | abrotman | sdakota: iptables |
| 15:59.57 | sdakota | abrotman: euhhh |
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| 16:00.08 | abrotman | what? |
| 16:00.11 | cheloo | abrotman where do i change the gtk fonts ? |
| 16:00.13 | abrotman | wtf is wrong with iptables? |
| 16:00.21 | abrotman | cheloo: gtk1 or gtk2 |
| 16:00.30 | sdakota | i mean, a firewall that stealths all ports instead of the ones I specify -- and that is a bit easy... |
| 16:00.38 | abrotman | iptables |
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| 16:00.42 | sdakota | I don't understand iptables lol |
| 16:00.44 | D7 | can somebody reccomend a floppy disk linux that I can use to create a fat32 partition on one drive, mount a rieserfs partition from another drive, and then transfer data from the rieserfs to the fat32 partition? |
| 16:00.46 | abrotman | so fucking learn |
| 16:01.02 | abrotman | sdakota: #iptables .. lartc.org .. netfilter.org |
| 16:01.12 | cheloo | abrotman dont know |
| 16:01.23 | sdakota | ?.. |
| 16:01.25 | asg | or use OpenBSD |
| 16:01.51 | drizzd | sdakota: I think ferm is pretty good |
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| 16:02.04 | sdakota | ferm? |
| 16:02.07 | asg | abrotman: yes, more beer. Trust me. |
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| 16:02.35 | fox-boy | hi all... anyone using etch yet? |
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| 16:02.51 | tiny | Can someone please help me with debugging pppd session startup. Why is it dying: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WWmJq282.html ? |
| 16:02.51 | asg | fox-boy: erm, people have been using etch since 1 week after sarge was released |
| 16:02.52 | drizzd | sdakota: it's a tool to make usage of iptables easier |
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| 16:03.16 | sdakota | drizzd: Ok, thanks |
| 16:03.27 | Justin | !+closing ports |
| 16:03.27 | dpkg | <greycat> Whenever a newbie talks about "opening" or "closing" ports, you're in for a hell of a time helping it to unlearn whatever fucked-up concepts it's picked up. |
| 16:04.25 | asg | !greycat on firewalls is <reply>use OpenBSD *shrug* |
| 16:04.25 | dpkg | okay, asg |
| 16:04.42 | fox-boy | asg: sorry, I'm a newbie. debian's site informs of not issuing security updates for etch and hence why I asked |
| 16:04.57 | asg | fox-boy: /msg dpkg testing security |
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| 16:05.34 | fox-boy | asg: alright, I'll look into it.. thanks |
| 16:05.38 | asg | fox-boy: you're welcome |
| 16:05.41 | cheloo | abrotman just finish with libgtk2.0 so i have GTK2 |
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| 16:05.59 | abrotman | !gtk2 font |
| 16:06.00 | dpkg | well, gtk2 font is to change the default font, add something like "gtk-font-name = "Verdana 12"" to your ~/.gtkrc-2.0, or try gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 16:06.02 | abrotman | !gtk1 font |
| 16:06.04 | cheloo | abrotman now how do i change my fonts ? |
| 16:06.05 | abrotman | !gtk1 font size |
| 16:06.07 | abrotman | bah |
| 16:06.27 | cjaymes | I think I just did something very stupid |
| 16:06.29 | abrotman | !gtk fontsize |
| 16:06.29 | dpkg | If gtk1 fonts are fucked and switch won't fix them, copy a file from /etc/gtk/gtkrc.$LOCALE to ~/.gtkrc and replace the specified font with whatever you like from xfontsel. |
| 16:06.51 | cjaymes | I did `tune2fs -O ^has_journal` |
| 16:06.56 | sdakota | cjaymes: join the club |
| 16:06.56 | cjaymes | on all my parts |
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| 16:07.17 | cheloo | abrotman E: Couldn't find package gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 16:07.18 | stew | cjaymes: "/msg dpkg ext2->ext3" to reverse that |
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| 16:07.35 | abrotman | install it ? |
| 16:07.48 | cjaymes | stew: would it work just to change fstab to ext2? |
| 16:08.03 | stew | cjaymes: what are you trying to do? |
| 16:08.06 | cjaymes | I don't really want journalling; it's caused me some problems |
| 16:08.15 | cheloo | abrotman yeah apt-get install gtk-theme-switch2 = E: Couldn't find package gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 16:08.38 | stew | cjaymes: then yes, just change fstab, what problems are you having btw? |
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| 16:09.09 | mrex | andreus, any luck? |
| 16:09.14 | cjaymes | stew: when the power goes out (yes, UPS, I know) I don't get a forced check of the fs |
| 16:09.42 | cjaymes | stew: better that I have journalling turned off so it does than me forgetting |
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| 16:09.50 | abrotman | !find gtk-theme-switch2 sarge |
| 16:09.53 | jsz-a | whats the bestway to change I hostname? |
| 16:10.01 | jsz-a | I done sudo hostname newhostname |
| 16:10.03 | cjaymes | err, forgetting to fsck -f |
| 16:10.04 | stew | cjaymes: yes, it doesn't need to check if it has a journal, thats part of the point of a journal |
| 16:10.06 | jsz-a | anything else? |
| 16:10.10 | asg | jsz-a: /msg dpkg hostname |
| 16:10.10 | dpkg | Debian Search of 'gtk-theme-switch2' (1): (/usr/bin/gtk-theme-switch2) in x11/gtk-theme-switch. |
| 16:10.23 | cjaymes | stew: are there other benefits of 3 that I should keep it? |
| 16:10.25 | paivakil | jsz-a: edit /etc/hostname |
| 16:10.28 | andreus | mrex: yes, 1024x768 now |
| 16:10.40 | stew | cjaymes: yeah, stuff like better automatic recovery from power outages |
| 16:10.52 | tarzeau | how to get something into this list? http://cvs.debian.org/srcdep/Packages-arch-specific?cvsroot=dak |
| 16:10.57 | tarzeau | !popcon |
| 16:10.57 | dpkg | Popcon is the Debian Popularity contest. See results at http://popcon.debian.org/ or install popularity-contest to participate. do the dpkg-reconfigure popularity-contest right after you answered all debconf stuff |
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| 16:11.08 | cheloo | abrotman there is no /usr/bin/gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 16:11.11 | mynullvoid | hi guys |
| 16:11.17 | andreus | mrex: looking for a list of possible resolution modes |
| 16:11.45 | abrotman | cheloo: did you install the package gtk-theme-switch ? |
| 16:11.55 | cheloo | abrotman no |
| 16:12.03 | cjaymes | stew: heh, no offense, but after the last time, I'll pass on those; it took me about 45 minutes to fix all the errors in the fs |
| 16:12.06 | mynullvoid | heehhhehe that's funny |
| 16:12.08 | abrotman | cheloo: so do it |
| 16:12.11 | cheloo | abrotman you said i should get gtk-theme-switch2 |
| 16:12.37 | abrotman | dude .. just freaking install it |
| 16:12.59 | cjaymes | stew: a normal fsck takes about 5 minutes, so I can do without the heart attack |
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| 16:13.27 | cjaymes | huh |
| 16:13.41 | cjaymes | if one is double nat'd does bittorrent not work? |
| 16:13.57 | cjaymes | not seed rather |
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| 16:14.04 | cheloo | abrotman you still dindt told me how do i get a proper theme so i can read the menu and fonts |
| 16:14.21 | abrotman | install gtk-theme-switch .. |
| 16:14.21 | mynullvoid | cheloo: do you use kde or gnome? |
| 16:14.25 | mrex | andreus, as far as I know, your computer screen should have a maximum resolution. You can find that by checking the specs (google the system name, the amilo X XXXX at the bottom of the computer). |
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| 16:14.36 | cheloo | mynullvoid kde |
| 16:14.56 | mynullvoid | cheloo: what google say when you say "kde themes"? |
| 16:15.00 | mrex | andreaus, if you need more "space" on your desktop, i use gnome and just set the font etc all a bit smaller |
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| 16:15.28 | crypt_ex | if you put a dodgy cd in the drive, how do you get control of the drive again? |
| 16:15.30 | cheloo | mynullvoid hey man the guys in here told me that its got nothing to do with kde theme i have to change fonts and shit in gtk |
| 16:15.32 | abrotman | his gtk uses his kde font ? |
| 16:15.49 | abrotman | cheloo: install gtk-theme-switch |
| 16:15.49 | cjaymes | crypt_ex: you mean get the cd out? |
| 16:15.54 | crypt_ex | yea |
| 16:15.56 | cheloo | abrotman i did |
| 16:16.00 | crypt_ex | eject dont work |
| 16:16.00 | ick | I try to run openoffice in a chroot, but I get a lot of errors. |
| 16:16.00 | abrotman | did you use it? |
| 16:16.06 | ick | An error occured while creating directory: |
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| 16:16.12 | abrotman | cheloo: i don't know if xchat is gtk1 or gtk2 |
| 16:16.16 | ick | All related to creating files and directories. |
| 16:16.21 | cheloo | abrotman well i can ony use the default theme with gtk-theme-switch , thats all i have listed there |
| 16:16.25 | andreus | mrex: that's what i just did.. another thing is.. to make my virtual screen larger than physical, what is responsible for this? |
| 16:16.26 | cjaymes | crypt_ex: unbend a paperclip & stick it in the little hole near the drive tray |
| 16:16.29 | abrotman | where's valdyn when you need someone to know about stupid fonts in gtk :) |
| 16:16.31 | ick | As another user I can run openoffice without problems. |
| 16:16.33 | crypt_ex | lol |
| 16:16.43 | mynullvoid | hehehe |
| 16:16.54 | ick | And is #debian64 declared dead? |
| 16:17.04 | crypt_ex | cjaymes, I was trying to avoid the physical sides of things |
| 16:17.05 | andreus | mrex: not my current resolution.. but a larger one.. like.. 19**x14** on a 1024x768 screen..? |
| 16:17.07 | abrotman | you mean #debian-amd64 ? |
| 16:17.09 | cjaymes | crypt_ex: I'm not sure if that works on slot loading, but... |
| 16:17.19 | cjaymes | crypt_ex: do you still have it mounted? |
| 16:17.29 | paivakil | ick: #debian-amd64 |
| 16:17.32 | Justin | dpkg: depends xchat sarge |
| 16:17.39 | dpkg | xchat: depends on libatk1.0-0 (>= 1.7.2), libc6 (>= 2.3.2.ds1-4), libglib2.0-0 (>= 2.4.7), libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4.4), libpango1.0-0 (>= 1.6.0), libperl5.8 (>= 5.8.4), libssl0.9.7, libx11-6 | xlibs (>> 4.1.0), python2.3 (>= 2.3), tcl8.4 (>= 8.4.5), xchat-common (= 2.4.1-0.1) |
| 16:17.41 | crypt_ex | cjaymes, its just stopped and its come out now.... was stuck for 3-4 mins though |
| 16:17.47 | Justin | abrotman: ^^^^^^^^^^ gtk2 |
| 16:17.48 | mrex | andreus, no idea about that one. I just use more desktops and use 3ddesk. |
| 16:17.50 | mynullvoid | heh |
| 16:17.52 | abrotman | Justin: thank you |
| 16:17.55 | cjaymes | crypt_ex: good deal |
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| 16:18.20 | mynullvoid | ok guys gtg |
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| 16:18.33 | mynullvoid | it's midnight here in +6 GMT |
| 16:18.42 | andreus | mrex: nod, thank you very much.. i'll try to find some more info on how to use my fully possible resolution |
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| 16:19.56 | dscener | what happened to k3b, is it in unstable? |
| 16:20.25 | abrotman | c++ abi change |
| 16:20.27 | mrec | hi, does anyone own a pinnacle pctv usb2 here? |
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| 16:20.37 | cheal | !tell dscener about info k3b unstable |
| 16:20.48 | cjaymes | stew: btw, thanks for the pointer |
| 16:20.49 | paivakil | dscener: http://wiki.debian.net/DebianKDE |
| 16:20.55 | dscener | thanks paivakil |
| 16:20.57 | nut543 | Which file/how do i switch window manager with gnome? |
| 16:21.05 | chugga | hmm.. ive discovered both k3b and vlc are missing from my apt-get thingy. why doesnt etch have these 2 (very popular) apps? |
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| 16:21.10 | andreus | mrex: oh, forgot to say.. i am sure about 1280x1024 since it's normal for winxp... i have an original winxp cd specially for FS Amilo.. so there's no problem with the resolution .. |
| 16:21.22 | abrotman | chugga: C++ abi change |
| 16:21.30 | paivakil | chugga: see the wiki.debian.org link above your question |
| 16:21.36 | mynullvoid | guys before I go off |
| 16:21.41 | chugga | abrotman, im not sure what you mean by that? |
| 16:21.46 | cheal | chugga: different reasons. /msg dpkg why is k3b not in testing |
| 16:21.49 | chugga | paivakil, looking |
| 16:21.53 | abrotman | chugga: everything needs to be recompiled |
| 16:21.55 | sdakota | what's kjournald? |
| 16:22.00 | mynullvoid | anyone plays with scheme (programming language?) |
| 16:22.03 | abrotman | your FS journal |
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| 16:22.08 | asg | sdakota: fs journal kernel process |
| 16:22.09 | ick | This is the error I am getting: http://pastebin.com/506808 |
| 16:22.14 | lookie | hot news! intel abandons its 'pentium' brand |
| 16:22.18 | sdakota | asg: ok, tnx |
| 16:22.23 | abrotman | lookie: shut it |
| 16:22.25 | chugga | mynullvoid, yes. i do |
| 16:22.44 | mynullvoid | chugga: in general, how do you find it? |
| 16:22.59 | chugga | mynullvoid, i find it beautiful. whatsup? |
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| 16:23.06 | asg | lookie: that was mentioned on the register 2 weeks or so ago, it's rather lukewarm news at this point. |
| 16:23.18 | ick | Would anyone care to take a look? I am experiencing problems when I run openoffice on debian amd64. |
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| 16:23.27 | asg | ick: ask #debian-amd64 |
| 16:23.35 | ick | asg: already did |
| 16:23.38 | _rene_ | ick: no, because there's no OOo for native-amd64 |
| 16:23.45 | mynullvoid | chugga: I read nice thing about it and wanna check it out |
| 16:23.46 | asg | ick: also, make sure your chroot's '/' directory is has '755' perms. |
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| 16:23.52 | ick | _rene_: I run it in a chroot. |
| 16:23.58 | _rene_ | ick: ah, I see. |
| 16:24.01 | Prudhvi | Hi, how can in install Gnome 2.12 ? |
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| 16:24.08 | cjaymes | can I fsck -f after a power outage with ext3 + journal? |
| 16:24.12 | chugga | mynullvoid, sure. check out #scheme .. and in the meantime apt-get install mzscheme |
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| 16:24.18 | mynullvoid | Prudhvi: i got it in sid |
| 16:24.26 | cjaymes | automatically, that is |
| 16:24.27 | mynullvoid | sure |
| 16:24.47 | Prudhvi | mynullvoid, i have sarge now can i use sid in /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 16:25.13 | asg | Prudhvi: /msg dpkg sid faq. Thanks *very* carefully. |
| 16:25.18 | mynullvoid | Prudhvi: who say you can't? it's your machine - you rule ;) |
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| 16:25.31 | ick | asg: drwxr-xr-x seems ok. |
| 16:25.54 | chugga | abrotman, so should i wait a few days - will vlc be back in the packages by then? ive been meaning to play some dvds but the only player i can stand nowadays is vlc |
| 16:25.58 | Prudhvi | mynullvoid, i mean is that possible to install sid packages on sarge :) |
| 16:26.06 | rezzen | how do i determine what deb package has provided <filename>? |
| 16:26.10 | asg | ick: can you manually create a directory or file in the chroot as the user running the program? |
| 16:26.18 | mynullvoid | Prudhvi: consider backports |
| 16:26.19 | asg | rezzen: dpkg -S |
| 16:26.32 | cjaymes | asg: too fast :) |
| 16:26.58 | ick | asg: no |
| 16:26.58 | rezzen | asg: thanks. i saw that option in dpkg manpage, didn't grok its meaning |
| 16:27.08 | ick | asg: so, that's the problem all right. |
| 16:27.09 | abrotman | chugga: maybe .. if you're lucky |
| 16:27.12 | asg | ick: then you have some odd permission problem that you need to resolve |
| 16:27.22 | asg | rezzen: you're welcome |
| 16:27.41 | abrotman | chugga: the real solution is to not use C++ programs :) |
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| 16:27.47 | chugga | abrot .. i was told to use etch for newer versions of apps .. surely wasnt expecting no package at all. oh well.. |
| 16:27.51 | abrotman | !nicktab |
| 16:27.52 | dpkg | Hitting tab on a partially typed word in your IRC-client, when referencing a nickname, will increase typing productivity by miles. For example, to address exampleUser, type exam<TAB> and your IRC client will fill in the rest. Keep hitting tab if the letters you typed match more than one nick until you get the right one. |
| 16:27.55 | chugga | abrotman, im with you on that one! |
| 16:28.01 | abrotman | chugga: it's testing .. things still happen |
| 16:28.10 | ick | asg: If I run groups om the chroot, it tells me cannot find name for group ID 1000. |
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| 16:28.15 | ick | asg: er in |
| 16:28.46 | asg | ick: oh, did you mount /proc when you were in the chroot? You'll also need to have your /etc/passwd map a user to that ID if OO complains. |
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| 16:29.03 | asg | ick: sorry, /etc/groups |
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| 16:29.13 | asg | erm /etc/group |
| 16:29.19 | ick | asg: I solved one problem with /proc |
| 16:29.26 | gtkspert | Hello, im having trouble with busybox, when i run busybox telnetd -l /bin/sh it's fine, but when i connect, it just does nothing and disconnects me |
| 16:29.32 | ick | asg: But I now just want to be able to do the groups command succesfully. |
| 16:29.47 | SeicherlBoB | asg: ok, i read the whole doc of libtrash... but how the hell do i enable it? I'm sorry, i don't understand this preload-stuff |
| 16:29.48 | ick | asg: If I can do that, then I can determine the right for the user for which it is working. |
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| 16:30.54 | [Elvis] | anyone with some mythtv experience here? |
| 16:31.19 | asg | SeicherlBoB: /usr/share/doc/libtrash/examples/example.bash_profile (looks like it's being done via login scripts) |
| 16:31.24 | chugga | when is the next debian stable due to be released? |
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| 16:31.33 | abrotman | !wwer |
| 16:31.33 | dpkg | Etch will release WIR; SIYH. There are no current estimates. Ask me about <etch pool>, <wir>, <siyh>. Join in and help out, or see the release team's latest timeline at http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2006/01/msg00001.html |
| 16:32.00 | asg | SeicherlBoB: use that as an example for any user who needs libtrash support. |
| 16:32.05 | SeicherlBoB | asg: yes, but there they mentioned some commands to enable it at runtime (at least i think so). Or do i have to login again. |
| 16:32.32 | andreus | mrex: marvelous.. thanks a lot :) specification said that max FS Amilo res is 1280x800... X didn't find any problems setting this up.. don't know how xp got it.. thanks again |
| 16:32.45 | SeicherlBoB | asg: ok. I'll have another look on that file... thanks! |
| 16:33.03 | mrex | andreus, sure thing ;) |
| 16:33.07 | asg | SeicherlBoB: loggin out and in again should be required since it needs to run LD_PRELOAD=foo before the shell starts to handle the redirect issue. |
| 16:33.59 | SeicherlBoB | asg: thx. Do you know if this will work with samba aswell? it should cause you have to log in there aswell. |
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| 16:34.41 | chugga | SIYH? |
| 16:34.49 | thingfish | sooner if you help |
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| 16:35.18 | asg | SeicherlBoB: it will work only if bash is run. If you are serving files via Samba, then samba users will probably be able to delete files. There are obvious limitations to libtrash. You might be able to fix things by having the samba daemons start in a libtrash enabled environment but #samba would probably need to be consulted. |
| 16:36.06 | SeicherlBoB | asg: ok - great! Thanks a lot! |
| 16:36.32 | ick | asg: yes, I got groups working. |
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| 16:36.40 | ick | asg: (and make my first hard link) :D |
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| 16:38.40 | tiny | I need to catch exit status of pppd i.e. the number it returns on exit. How do I find that out? |
| 16:39.04 | ick | How do I delete a hardlink? |
| 16:39.09 | asg | ick: rm |
| 16:39.13 | ick | I don't want to delete the file it's pointing at. |
| 16:39.13 | asg | SeicherlBoB: you're welcome |
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| 16:39.44 | ick | asg: Or was it that the file was deleted iff it was the last link to the file? |
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| 16:40.21 | mrex | tiny: /var/log/... ? |
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| 16:40.59 | jsz-a | how can I make my pc speaker beap from the console? |
| 16:41.02 | ladyisabel77 | !IT |
| 16:41.02 | dpkg | per aiuto in lingua italiana: /j #debian-it , (anche /j #linux-it ). Otterrete sicuramente piu' aiuto li', bischeri! For help in italian /j #debian-it or /j #linux-it |
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| 16:41.50 | mrex | jsz-a, enable it in the kernel i think |
| 16:41.58 | ick | Ah, I finally get how everything works. |
| 16:42.12 | abrotman | everything? |
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| 16:42.23 | housetier | is there a mirror for p.d.o? |
| 16:42.23 | ick | abrotman: You know, the Universe and all. |
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| 16:42.32 | ick | abrotman: ;) |
| 16:42.36 | tiny | mrex: it only gives me pppd[1060]: Exit. |
| 16:42.41 | abrotman | ick: ok .. as long as you know |
| 16:42.44 | SeicherlBoB | asg: damn... can't test the .bash_profile thing, cause my home is set readonly (due to filerecovery). argh! |
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| 16:43.03 | jsz-a | mrex, how do I do that? |
| 16:43.09 | ick | abrotman: I learned a long time ago that it's impossible to know everything. |
| 16:43.35 | abrotman | ick: wow .. such insight :) |
| 16:43.54 | tiny | So ... is it possible to catch a return value of a program from a bash shell ? |
| 16:44.25 | abrotman | depends |
| 16:44.50 | mrex | tiny: i'm not too sure, but i think setting the debug level of pppd may help there. I ran it in terminal from wvdial (a while back) and the output there told me the "exit number" |
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| 16:44.52 | abrotman | tiny: there's a bash variable for the exit value of the program just run |
| 16:45.38 | mrex | jsz-a: compile a kernel, when doing make menuconfig, look around for the pc-speaker thing. It wasn't enabled on mine by default |
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| 16:47.24 | tiny | mrex: I didn't know pppd has various levels of debug |
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| 16:47.44 | sts | hello folks |
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| 16:48.13 | sts | how can i prevent apt from overriding specific files when an update occurs? |
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| 16:48.26 | tiny | abrotman: is it $? |
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| 16:48.38 | CoNaN_ | hello, i cant run the sarge (08/01/2006) with linux26, how can i download a sarge withj the 26kernel plz? |
| 16:48.42 | abrotman | man bash .. or ask #bash |
| 16:48.59 | flawd | anyone who sucessfully has changed the subtitle font size on totem using debian testing? |
| 16:49.03 | ick | Ok, I can do cat <some word document >, but I OpenOffice can't find the file in the chroot? |
| 16:49.11 | ick | Both are exectuted in the chroot. |
| 16:49.19 | ick | What weirdnes is that? |
| 16:49.24 | CleeK | sts : look at dpkg-divert |
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| 16:49.26 | ick | weirdness |
| 16:49.27 | flawd | i change the subtitles.separate.subtitle_size: in ~/.gnome2/totem_config but totem does not change size |
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| 16:49.56 | spldart | What difference would the end product be if I option in kde desktop during the netinst or if I opt to manually install kde from say apt-get? |
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| 16:50.01 | britt | besides chown and chmod, what other aspects of permissions can i change to files? I have an unreadable file to other users, besides root |
| 16:50.18 | abrotman | spldart: should be none |
| 16:50.19 | jsz-a | I got it |
| 16:50.22 | ick | spldart: none, that I know of |
| 16:50.23 | spldart | thanks |
| 16:50.24 | jsz-a | it's apt-get install beep |
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| 16:50.45 | lakcaj | britt, that should be all you need. |
| 16:50.45 | spldart | I'm doing yet another dual boot install for the lan.. eldest kids room |
| 16:51.05 | suposs | Anyone know a good guide for installing true type fonts on unstable with xorg? |
| 16:51.07 | abrotman | kids are resilient .. no need for dual boot :) |
| 16:51.12 | spldart | hehehe |
| 16:51.13 | britt | lakcaj: its still unreadable...wont even list in a directory view in HTML. |
| 16:51.19 | britt | on apache |
| 16:51.23 | mrex | tiny: hummm, man pppd has debug there, but i dont know if that that particular one will help....no further ideas though :( |
| 16:51.23 | spldart | kids resilient.. kids compy.. not |
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| 16:51.27 | abrotman | are TTF different on xorg than on xfree ? |
| 16:51.30 | lakcaj | britt, maybe the permissions on the parent directory are the problem? |
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| 16:51.44 | lakcaj | britt, do you have other files in that directory that are ok? |
| 16:51.47 | spldart | really though.. need XP Pro for some games and ATI AIW and need linux for... well... it's linux! |
| 16:51.49 | suposs | abrotman: wouldn't know |
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| 16:51.59 | britt | lakcaj: yes, one archive of the two are readable... |
| 16:52.00 | abrotman | !ttf |
| 16:52.00 | dpkg | rumour has it, ttf is the extension of a True Type Font, checkout freetype or ask me about truetype for location of debian howto. for truetype font support with XF4 ask me about ttf xf4, or see <msttcorefonts>, or see <bobfont> |
| 16:52.17 | chugga | abrotman, was that rhetorical? |
| 16:52.30 | suposs | abrotman: thanks |
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| 16:53.03 | mrex | britt: chmod 777 file should make it readable. Also there is chgrp |
| 16:53.08 | ick | How can mount /mnt/wind and everything below it in my chroot? |
| 16:53.26 | ick | Er How can I |
| 16:53.28 | britt | mrex: i thought doing chown user:group was acceptable |
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| 16:53.36 | lakcaj | britt, it is |
| 16:53.42 | suposs | !truetype |
| 16:53.42 | dpkg | somebody said truetype was at truetype debian howto http://www.paulandlesley.org/linux/xfree4_tt.html and to get truetype fonts working fine with debian, apt-get install xfstt (or xfsxtt), copy your fonts to /usr/share/fonts/truetype, type (as root) /etc/init.d/xfstt restart, and echo "xset fp+ unix/:7101" >> ~/.xinitrc as the user that will be running X, and you're done. xfree86-4 "howto" at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-0011/msg01817.html, or ... |
| 16:53.43 | lakcaj | or user.group |
| 16:53.46 | ick | It only mounts the first level of files. |
| 16:53.58 | abrotman | chugga: i don't know .. i don't like fonts :) |
| 16:53.59 | mrex | britt, sorry, forgot about that |
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| 16:54.33 | britt | lakcaj: is there anyway to su root a apache virtual directory? It's on a private NAT'd network, so security isnt really a issue |
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| 16:54.39 | chugga | abrotman, ok because i installed ttf fonts very very easily yesterday under etch (which uses xorg). simply copying them to ~/.fonts |
| 16:54.43 | harm1988 | i dont understand how i can see virtualnamehost in my browser... localhost only shows one.. how do i see the other one? |
| 16:54.44 | pioupiou | hello all |
| 16:54.52 | abrotman | chugga: don't tell me .. tell Supaplex |
| 16:54.57 | abrotman | err tell suposs |
| 16:55.01 | abrotman | Supaplex: misfire! |
| 16:55.08 | lakcaj | britt, try "chown user.group /path/to/file && chmod 0744 /path/to/file" |
| 16:55.35 | lakcaj | britt, about your last question - i have no idea |
| 16:55.45 | suposs | chugga: Will try that |
| 16:55.47 | pioupiou | i havre install debian but xwindow don t start i don t know what i can do |
| 16:55.52 | chugga | cool |
| 16:55.58 | lakcaj | !tell pioupiou about drx |
| 16:56.27 | pioupiou | lakcaj : drx ??? |
| 16:56.58 | lakcaj | !drx |
| 16:56.58 | dpkg | methinks drxx is dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 [or xserver-xorg if you're using X.org] # Run it as root! if you have edited the XFree86 config files by hand or used a tool such as xf86config also ask me about <xmd5> |
| 16:57.43 | jsz-a | I installed something called 'softbeep' but I want to get rid of it, apt-get remove softbeep didn't it's still working |
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| 16:57.59 | britt | lakcaj: interesting... |
| 16:58.10 | ick | It works :) |
| 16:58.19 | mrex | jsz-a: dpkg --purge softbeep may help |
| 16:58.20 | ick | Thanks asg for some pointers |
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| 16:58.29 | britt | i'll just burn it to a CD or something. no use making things diffucult. Note to self: use fstab to mount fs's as user. |
| 16:58.33 | pioupiou | hummmm thank you lakcaj |
| 16:58.42 | jsz-a | $ dpkg --purge softbeep |
| 16:58.42 | jsz-a | dpkg: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsoftbeep.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 16:58.47 | jsz-a | see, I can't really do anything |
| 16:59.09 | orchid | jsz-a: it is removed, but theres a copy in memory as it was running when you removed it |
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| 16:59.20 | abrotman | jsz-a: touch |
| 16:59.20 | harm1988 | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:59.23 | jsz-a | how do I kill it? |
| 16:59.28 | pioupiou | bye bye |
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| 16:59.37 | abrotman | jsz-a: touch! |
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| 16:59.45 | mrex | jsz-a: killall softbeep (or look under ps -A for the name) |
| 17:00.04 | jsz-a | $ killall softbeep |
| 17:00.04 | jsz-a | killall: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsoftbeep.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 17:00.21 | mrex | killall -9 softbeep |
| 17:00.25 | jsz-a | when I done ps auxww | grep softbeep | grep -v grep I got the same |
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| 17:01.33 | jsz-a | $ sudo killall -9 softbeep |
| 17:01.33 | jsz-a | softbeep: no process killed |
| 17:01.47 | Justin | jsz-a: who says it is running? |
| 17:01.55 | belkin | can anyone please help me change the size of some applications menu like xchat menu .. which is too small |
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| 17:02.36 | belkin | the desktop icons are or and aslo the desktop fonts . except the fonts of some application and also menu ,, buttons |
| 17:02.47 | jsz-a | when I do a command I get this |
| 17:02.49 | belkin | how do i make them all , for any application same size ? |
| 17:03.01 | jsz-a | error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsoftbeep.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 17:04.15 | britt | can i get moth chmod and chown to recurse subdirectories |
| 17:04.21 | britt | both* |
| 17:04.22 | Justin | jsz-a: because you didn't tell your system to stop using it yet |
| 17:04.25 | m1ke_l | any advise on getting debian to print to windows smb printer? |
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| 17:05.14 | chugga | abrotman, im switching back to sid .. any advice? |
| 17:05.15 | m1ke_l | my debian machine sees printer through smb calls, but wont print |
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| 17:06.17 | abrotman | chugga: don't? |
| 17:06.35 | mrex | m1ke_l: does cups not have some happy frontend to this? |
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| 17:07.00 | chugga | abrotman, .. the advantages i expected from switching to testing havent materialised. ive also realised im probably used to the slower pace of stable |
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| 17:07.15 | abrotman | ok |
| 17:07.20 | jair_11 | guys I was installling couple of things in a client machine using Debian 3.1 stable and I wonder if is possible for debian to install the new OO 2.0 now that is the official one ready for windows??? |
| 17:07.22 | m1ke_l | yes, and i walk thru config, but it doesn't work |
| 17:07.37 | jair_11 | that can be done without damage anything in my system? |
| 17:07.39 | chugga | do you think i should blank the partition and re-install. or just updated my sources list thing and apt-get ? |
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| 17:08.34 | Justin | !tell jair_11 about backports |
| 17:08.35 | abrotman | chugga: you could just learn about pinning |
| 17:08.43 | Padnah | In Linux, where are my mail folders located in the directory? |
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| 17:08.54 | chugga | !dpkg pinning |
| 17:08.55 | dpkg | somebody said apt-pinning was read man apt_preferences. It has good examples. |
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| 17:09.19 | Koven | hello, how can i change in gnome from metacity to sawfish definetely? |
| 17:09.27 | m1ke_l | padnah: /var/spool |
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| 17:11.13 | KerPlunk | What is a good command line music player...with _some_ playlist support or something like that. |
| 17:11.16 | Padnah | m1ke, thanks |
| 17:11.26 | KerPlunk | !tell Koven about metacity |
| 17:11.32 | m1ke_l | mp3123? mp3blaster? |
| 17:11.34 | m1ke_l | something like that. |
| 17:11.40 | KerPlunk | !tell Koven about sawfish |
| 17:11.45 | KerPlunk | thanks m1ke_l |
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| 17:12.11 | abrotman | killall metacity && sawfish |
| 17:12.19 | treyh0 | is the bot, dpkg, ever going to be updated with a clue about what's going on with packages.debian.org? |
| 17:12.31 | abrotman | treyh0: why would he? .. everyone knows |
| 17:12.45 | britt | is there a maximum file size that apache2 will handle...as soon as the archive reached 2.0GB it disappeared |
| 17:12.49 | treyh0 | ok well then more than a clue |
| 17:12.52 | Koven | thanx kerPlunk |
| 17:12.57 | treyh0 | like whats really wrong and when is it going to be back |
| 17:12.58 | abrotman | treyh0: did you read your DWN ? |
| 17:13.10 | treyh0 | abrotman not last week |
| 17:13.20 | abrotman | treyh0: email the devel list .. |
| 17:13.20 | Koven | but iwas looking for a procedure about this cahnge |
| 17:13.24 | KerPlunk | m1ke_l: mp3123, or you mean mpg123? |
| 17:13.27 | DJ-Marcuzz | damn i switched in SID for Sarge, and now i did the same procedure i did at Sid and the array doesn't work, at boot it gives the error: md0 has no identetie information, but when i continue with control-D and then do assemble it works, but after a reboot same error |
| 17:13.37 | KerPlunk | mp3123 doesn't seem to exist m1ke_l |
| 17:13.39 | treyh0 | heh no way i'm emailing them |
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| 17:13.53 | Koven | mpg123 KerPlunk |
| 17:13.56 | KerPlunk | abrotman: dpkg is a he? |
| 17:14.05 | stew | !gender |
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| 17:14.05 | dpkg | I'm hermaphroditic |
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| 17:14.18 | sdakota | LOL |
| 17:14.27 | KerPlunk | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about sid |
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| 17:14.29 | treyh0 | aww man waht kind of box was p.d.o? |
| 17:14.32 | treyh0 | what, oops. |
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| 17:14.49 | DJ-Marcuzz | KerPlunk, why does it work on sid and not on sarge :S |
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| 17:15.09 | Padnah | m1ke, I failed to mention that I am looking for Mozilla Suite mail folders. I am trying to import my Outlook settings from XP to Kmail. I have gone to Windows XP and imported my addressbood and folders into Mozilla. I uploaded that to my ISP and now I want to download them to Mozilla and them import them to Kmail. |
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| 17:15.36 | jsz-a | error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsoftbeep.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 17:15.45 | jsz-a | how do I tell my system to stop using it? |
| 17:15.59 | kaptan | hi |
| 17:16.06 | treyh0 | tears. |
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| 17:16.23 | stew | treyh0: http://db.debian.org/machines.cgi?host=saens |
| 17:16.25 | jair_11 | Justin, so what you are telling me is that through those backports I will be able to install a lot of other things without compromise my system?? |
| 17:16.28 | xaltar | what's the magic I have to throw at xargs to make it do anything with each line, as opposed to each space-delimited token, separately? |
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| 17:16.51 | Justin | jair_11: theoretically |
| 17:17.00 | kaptan | türkçe bilen varmı |
| 17:17.08 | jair_11 | Justin, because the reason why I use the debian "satble" is because I rely in be stable thank GOD is the only linux I see like that beside unix. |
| 17:17.14 | abrotman | !tr |
| 17:17.14 | dpkg | rumour has it, tr is türkçe yardIm için #debian.tr -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr, or http://www.hermessoft.com/newproject/keyboards/kbd/turkish1.gif |
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| 17:17.25 | Justin | xaltar: 0 |
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| 17:17.41 | m1ke_l | oops |
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| 17:17.44 | jair_11 | Justin, but you can get almost everything or they have to be releases "stable" of the packages?? |
| 17:17.56 | Justin | jair_11: the website explains it |
| 17:18.10 | kaptan | turkish channel debian |
| 17:18.11 | jsz-a | how do I tell my system to stop using it? |
| 17:18.20 | kaptan | :) |
| 17:18.23 | jair_11 | Justin, ok thank you I will go check the site |
| 17:18.25 | Justin | jsz-a: how did you tell your system to start using it in the first place? |
| 17:18.39 | harm1988 | i made a file in bitmap where is that saved? |
| 17:18.48 | xaltar | Justin: that doesn't even work... :( |
| 17:18.49 | treyh0 | stew, wow, 4g and it was having performance problems? debian must be booming even more :-) |
| 17:19.09 | RichiH | why does locales still want to uninstall base-config in sid after at least a week? |
| 17:19.19 | jsz-a | Justin: apt-get install softbeep, but it's screwed |
| 17:19.29 | harm1988 | i made a file in bitmap where is that saved? |
| 17:19.32 | jsz-a | and I typed softbeep |
| 17:19.38 | harm1988 | nvm :p |
| 17:19.42 | xaltar | Justin: using -0 just glues all the filenames matched together with \n's, then complains that the filename is too long |
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| 17:19.49 | jsz-a | not it wont let me do anything |
| 17:19.50 | jsz-a | like |
| 17:19.51 | jsz-a | $ top |
| 17:19.51 | jsz-a | top: error while loading shared libraries: /usr/lib/libsoftbeep.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 17:20.05 | Justin | xaltar: the program feeding the stuff to xargs needs to null terminate the strings |
| 17:20.10 | jsz-a | grr |
| 17:20.26 | Justin | jsz-a: so, you forgot how you installed it? |
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| 17:20.43 | jsz-a | Jusin: with apt-get install softbeep |
| 17:20.49 | xaltar | Justin: and ls apparently can't do that? |
| 17:21.00 | Justin | xaltar: see the examples in the xarg man page |
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| 17:21.30 | mrex | jsz-a: does a reboot not fix it? |
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| 17:21.37 | Justin | jsz-a: apt-get install softbeep doesn't enable it |
| 17:21.41 | Justin | jsz-a: what did YOU do to enable i |
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| 17:22.11 | abrotman | !tell demi about root |
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| 17:23.03 | xaltar | Justin: I did, yet they're minimally helpful, and none of them contain anything good with ls... examples online were shoddy at best too |
| 17:23.12 | ick | What lines do I have to have in /etc/apt/sources.list for amd64? |
| 17:23.22 | Justin | xaltar: don't use ls. duh. |
| 17:23.24 | ke6isf | jsz-a: What version of Debian are you runnign? |
| 17:23.25 | conreyt | Hi all, was wondering if there is a way to "rerun" the script that allows you to allow users to run cdrecord as SUID root..... |
| 17:23.41 | Zvpun | HI I have heared that aptitude should be prefered over apt-get (I am not really sure why). When trying to "upgrade" with aptitude it wants to remove 170 unused packages but I do use some of them. I like the idea of having my package system keep track of what I use but how and why does it think that I dont use lets say xmms? |
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| 17:24.03 | ke6isf | Zvpun: What flavor of Debian are you running? |
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| 17:24.23 | Zvpun | ke6isf: testing with some packages (from unstable: k3b) |
| 17:24.26 | cyp | how can i exclude a package from apt-get update? |
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| 17:24.38 | Justin | !tell cyp about hold |
| 17:24.39 | ke6isf | !tell cyp -about hold |
| 17:24.44 | ke6isf | Justin: beat me. =^^= |
| 17:24.46 | mrex | conreyt: k3b has a nice frontend, k3bsetup that does that. maybe a dpkg-reconfigure may help |
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| 17:26.06 | conreyt | mrex: yeah I'm not wanting to add k3b into my build, using gnome baker atm. |
| 17:27.10 | mrex | conreyt: dpkg-reconfigure cdrecord should do the trick |
| 17:27.15 | chugga | Zvpun, how do you install unstable packages under testing? |
| 17:27.19 | xaltar | Justin: certainly dir isn't any better |
| 17:27.44 | Zvpun | chugga: add a unstable line to /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-get install package |
| 17:27.45 | Justin | xaltar: maybe you should actually read the examples in the xargs man page? |
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| 17:27.55 | Zvpun | chugga: erm apt-get update first |
| 17:28.13 | shad0w1e | hi, I'm looking to remove KDE. Which package should I remove that will remove everything else for me, and which one should I ever put back, if I want KDE back? Thanks |
| 17:28.15 | chugga | but doesnt that mean you are using unstable then? |
| 17:28.27 | conreyt | mrex: thx I'll give it a shot.... |
| 17:28.34 | xaltar | Justin: I did.... they use find, and the -0 was meant to be used with -print0 from find |
| 17:28.44 | Justin | xaltar: so what is the problem? |
| 17:28.48 | jair_11 | Justin, interesting but have one last doubt :( |
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| 17:29.37 | abrotman | chugga: use pinning |
| 17:29.50 | cyp | does anybody knows why does tomcat says "Please check your CLASSPATH and your installation." after i apt-get install it ? |
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| 17:29.59 | Zvpun | chugga: well I remove the unstable line once k3b is installed |
| 17:30.01 | cyp | in suse works imediatly after i install and run it |
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| 17:30.08 | shad0w1e | anyone know which package I can remove that will remove the whole KDE ? |
| 17:30.14 | chugga | Zvpun, thats a bit devious |
| 17:30.17 | xaltar | Justin: perhaps xargs isn't quite as flexible as it seems |
| 17:30.31 | Zvpun | chugga: this is not much of a problem since all k3b dependencies are in testing, but k3b isn't due to auto building failures |
| 17:30.32 | abrotman | kspath: yeah .. you should move :) |
| 17:30.33 | conreyt | mrex: That worked thx for the help |
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| 17:30.44 | abrotman | chugga: USE PINNING |
| 17:30.47 | chugga | abrotman, no idea what that is dude. the bot didnt help me either |
| 17:30.59 | jair_11 | Justin, this (.dsc file) I have to build it?? or the system will build it? then after that is done I will need to install the fake root correct, then finally this is what I will do to install the OO 2.0 $ su -c "dpkg -i packagefile.deb" right? |
| 17:31.03 | Zvpun | chugga: I wouldn't recommend that as a general rule, just as a workaround in my particular case |
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| 17:31.13 | abrotman | chugga: man apt-preferences |
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| 17:31.22 | Justin | jair_11: eh? |
| 17:31.31 | kspath | abrotman: you invoked my name? |
| 17:31.36 | Zvpun | chugga: you can use the configuration switch default-release to automatically keep packages at testing while still having an unstable line |
| 17:31.38 | abrotman | kspath: duh |
| 17:31.46 | jair_11 | Justin, I am reading from the site what I should do to get those new packages to stable. |
| 17:31.50 | Zvpun | chugga: I dont like and dont see the point of pinning. |
| 17:31.53 | Justin | jair_11: which site |
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| 17:31.58 | chugga | No manual entry for apt-preferences |
| 17:32.00 | chugga | hmm.. |
| 17:32.06 | jair_11 | Justin, http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-package.en.html#s-port |
| 17:32.12 | abrotman | kspath: stuff like that .. makes your town look crummy |
| 17:32.16 | Justin | jair_11: nonono |
| 17:32.25 | jair_11 | Justin, ahhhhhhhhhhhh sorry ??? |
| 17:32.28 | belkin | wtf , its my desktop running so slow ? when i open a windows take more then 4 mins untill its open .. ? |
| 17:32.35 | kspath | abrotman: town? |
| 17:32.38 | belkin | its this got something to do with gtk ? |
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| 17:32.45 | chugga | belkin, you are using fluxbox too? |
| 17:32.54 | Justin | jair_11: http://backports.org/ |
| 17:32.55 | belkin | chugga no |
| 17:32.55 | abrotman | kspath: you know .. that little midwestern 'burg you live in :) |
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| 17:33.07 | jair_11 | Justin, ok I will do that |
| 17:33.31 | Zizou | hi... Im downloading the openoffice debian packages from the openoffice.org site, Do I have to install all the packages? |
| 17:33.32 | leleobhz | on netinstall for sarge, on 2.6 kernel have the madwifi module? |
| 17:33.38 | kspath | abrotman: oh that is what that is I thought it was a pollution pump managed by under-educated persons |
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| 17:33.49 | Zvpun | Zizou: I would use debians openoffice packages |
| 17:33.52 | abrotman | kspath: that too :) |
| 17:34.08 | abrotman | kspath: though .. i don't know your level of expertise/years/etc .. |
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| 17:34.32 | belkin | so now one can tell me why its my box so slow ? |
| 17:34.45 | britt | okay somebody please help...I cant see a file in my apache2 directory list...is there anyoen that can tell me what to do? my user (not www-data) owns the directory and the file and i cant see it. |
| 17:34.54 | Zvpun | belkin: free |
| 17:34.59 | Zizou | Zvpun, those are the ones tha im downloading, but they are to many... so my question is if i really need all of them |
| 17:35.02 | belkin | free what ? |
| 17:35.05 | belkin | Zvpun ? |
| 17:35.21 | Zvpun | belkin: check if your memory is enought. If you use swap a lot you meight want to buy some RAM |
| 17:35.38 | mfrisch | britt: did you reload apache after you added the file |
| 17:35.38 | Zvpun | Zizou: ? apt-get update; apt-get install openoffice.org |
| 17:35.46 | leleobhz | someone? |
| 17:35.47 | Zvpun | belkin: type "free" |
| 17:35.54 | belkin | Zvpun fuck off its got nothing to do with my ram , my machine was fast enogh on other os |
| 17:35.58 | britt | mfrisch: no...does taht make a difference. |
| 17:36.05 | britt | you mean the service, or the page? |
| 17:36.10 | britt | i refreshed the page, yes... |
| 17:36.15 | mfrisch | the service |
| 17:36.16 | Zvpun | belkin: you can go fuck off yourself. I wanted to help you fucktard |
| 17:36.33 | Zizou | Zvpun, but I dont find a repository that has 2.0, thats why im downloading from the openoffice site...Do u know a repos? |
| 17:36.43 | kspath | abrotman: I am mostly way beyond that sort of job but anything is a good job if I get paid |
| 17:36.46 | mfrisch | britt: try /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 17:36.48 | Zvpun | Zizou: 2.0 is in testing as far as I know |
| 17:36.49 | belkin | Zvpun well you are taking a piss telling me i dont have enogh ram lol |
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| 17:37.10 | britt | nope |
| 17:37.13 | abrotman | kspath: and it doesn't snow there :) |
| 17:37.22 | Zvpun | belkin: dude, I am not a native speaker if I was offensive it wasn't intentionally in contrast to your fuck off |
| 17:37.27 | mfrisch | nope what..... |
| 17:37.39 | britt | i restarted it and i still cant see it. |
| 17:37.42 | belkin | * enough |
| 17:37.43 | kspath | abrotman: I do not understand why they are paying so much money for such a job |
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| 17:38.03 | abrotman | belkin: your other OS has nothing to do with Debian .. stop being an ass |
| 17:38.15 | belkin | Zvpun lol well im getting mad with this debian install man thats all |
| 17:38.24 | britt | I think the tar archive inherits the permissions of the containing files...or something. I saw it on my list util some random time. it turned red, meaning it wasnt owned by me. |
| 17:38.40 | Zvpun | belkin: I dont think that is an excuse. We all get mad once in a while. |
| 17:38.45 | belkin | abrotman no all im saying is that all my other os i had installed on the " same " box they where running fine |
| 17:38.47 | abrotman | kspath: first of all .. the location .. secondly .. i suspect a high pressure project |
| 17:38.53 | Zvpun | belkin: you meight want to check "free" and DMA using "hdparm" |
| 17:38.58 | abrotman | belkin: define 'slow' |
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| 17:39.11 | belkin | Zvpun well im in the channel since this morning trying to get a bit of help .. |
| 17:39.14 | elfspace | . |
| 17:39.20 | abrotman | and why does "same" need to be in quotes? |
| 17:39.35 | belkin | abrotman like i said before it take 3 min until the terminal window opens |
| 17:39.41 | abrotman | belkin: KDE? |
| 17:39.44 | Zvpun | belkin: there is no "right to get help" |
| 17:39.45 | kspath | abrotman: hence reason for no "recent graduates" |
| 17:39.47 | belkin | abrotman take more then 5 to boot the machine |
| 17:39.55 | belkin | abrotman yes |
| 17:40.13 | mfrisch | britt: check your permissions...I use mc its visual ctrl-x-i shows file info ctrl-x-c chmod ctrl-x-u group info |
| 17:40.16 | belkin | Zvpun well then you could also tell me to fuck off because i dont get any help in here |
| 17:40.18 | abrotman | belkin: ask Zvpun suggests .. did you check your hdparm settings(assuming IDE drives) |
| 17:40.25 | belkin | Zvpun so i know and i dont have to waste my time in here |
| 17:40.33 | abrotman | Zvpun: belkin: STOP PISSING ON EACH OTHER |
| 17:40.51 | belkin | abrotman no i didnt |
| 17:40.53 | jair_11 | Justin, ok, I check the site but they are saying that this source.lst is not working any more:deb http://www.backports.org/pending/openoffice.org/ ./ this was created specific for OO 2.0 |
| 17:41.06 | abrotman | belkin: is it PATA drives? |
| 17:41.14 | belkin | abrotman do you think this " slow " its got something to do with gtk ? |
| 17:41.20 | blondie | belkin: are you the hardware manufacturer? |
| 17:41.23 | belkin | abrotman no scsi |
| 17:41.30 | belkin | blondie of what ? |
| 17:41.31 | Zvpun | abrotman: I was trying to help him. |
| 17:41.36 | blondie | belkin: what do you think? |
| 17:41.38 | Daveman | hey abrotman :) |
| 17:41.39 | kspath | lol |
| 17:41.43 | britt | mfrisch: i have to tarball this dierectory. This time i'm going to try --no-same-permissions in that string. |
| 17:41.44 | blondie | belkin products |
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| 17:41.47 | abrotman | Zvpun: i know .. but now you're just telling each other off |
| 17:42.03 | Justin | jair_11: they are saying what? |
| 17:42.06 | belkin | blondie one of them |
| 17:42.07 | mfrisch | britt: just change them.... |
| 17:42.08 | blondie | belkin: I have a belkin network card that's broken - can you fix it? |
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| 17:42.24 | belkin | blondie only if you bring it to my office |
| 17:42.30 | blondie | where's that? |
| 17:42.32 | britt | mfrisch: whats the program called? |
| 17:42.37 | Justin | jair_11: read the whole page. |
| 17:42.41 | britt | mfrisch: im in console right now.... |
| 17:42.54 | kspath | belkin: I have some frayed cables that you made |
| 17:42.57 | abrotman | belkin: check the interupts and your hdparm stuff |
| 17:43.03 | smiler1987 | hi how do i know which version of debian i need ie i386 , ai-64 |
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| 17:43.09 | mfrisch | britt: check your permissions...I use mc its visual ctrl-x-i shows file info ctrl-x-c chmod ctrl-x-u group info |
| 17:43.11 | jojux | hi ! |
| 17:43.13 | belkin | blondie well in United Kingom :) |
| 17:43.14 | blondie | smiler1987: what CPU do you have? |
| 17:43.17 | chugga | smiler1987, how do you know you need debian? |
| 17:43.18 | blondie | belkin: well that's good |
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| 17:43.22 | blondie | belkin: what county? :P |
| 17:43.24 | belkin | blondie * kingdom |
| 17:43.33 | belkin | blondie uk man |
| 17:43.41 | blondie | county not country o.o |
| 17:43.41 | belkin | blondie or also have a look in us :)) |
| 17:43.41 | jair_11 | Justin, ok I will read the whole things |
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| 17:44.03 | jojux | i have an old system woody, with old passwd style auth. how do i enable shadow passwords ? |
| 17:44.47 | belkin | blondie what card is it ? |
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| 17:45.24 | blondie | F5D5050 :p |
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| 17:45.30 | belkin | abrotman whats this hdparm stuff ? |
| 17:45.35 | shad0w1e | how do I display current directory path? |
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| 17:45.45 | belkin | blondie heh , |
| 17:45.46 | abrotman | !hdparm |
| 17:45.46 | dpkg | i heard hdparm is the HD tuning tool. If your IDE drive seems sluggish, you should experiment with hdparm with the following options: unmasked irq (on), I/O support (3, 32bit w/sync), and multcount (16) and using dma (on), or read http://linux.oreillynet.com/pub/a/linux/2000/06/29/hdparm.html, or apt-get install hdparm and RTFM :) |
| 17:45.48 | bighornram | i have openoffice backports installed in sarge, I can open the apps. When I try to update/install/remove with apt-get it complains that it not installed/uninstallable. How can I purge it to start over? |
| 17:45.56 | timhardy | pwd = present wrking directory |
| 17:46.03 | shad0w1e | timhardy thanks |
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| 17:46.37 | britt | mfrisch: xtrl-x-u doesnt work |
| 17:46.51 | smiler1987 | blondi: it a compaq pasario intel |
| 17:47.11 | mfrisch | britt: hold on... |
| 17:47.31 | timhardy | bighornram - might pinning an earlier version help? google for downgrading debian / rolling back to earlier version for instructions |
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| 17:47.39 | abrotman | smiler1987: i386 |
| 17:48.00 | smiler1987 | thanks |
| 17:48.07 | mfrisch | britt: its ctrl-x-o sorry |
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| 17:48.38 | belkin | abrotman also my konqueror hangs . i never got such a problem before i installed gtk-theme-switch and a few themes |
| 17:48.54 | belkin | abrotman now i just remove the gtk-theme-switch and its still slow :( |
| 17:49.11 | smiler1987 | abrotman: just out of intrest whats the diffrence would an amd be the same? |
| 17:49.11 | britt | mfrisch: nothing....i have *no* clue why i cant read it. i suppose its just a file limit or soemthing |
| 17:49.18 | timhardy | does anyone have any experience of installing affix modules? I'm having trouble compiling them: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/affix/btcore' |
| 17:49.18 | timhardy | make[4]: *** No rule to make target `affix.ko', needed by `all'. Stop. |
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| 17:50.06 | mfrisch | britt: how big is it? |
| 17:50.19 | britt | 5GB |
| 17:50.29 | britt | im doing it via ftp |
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| 17:50.46 | mfrisch | britt: thats pushing it ;-) |
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| 17:51.33 | britt | mfrisch: i figured it was.....i guess i'll have to use ftp for big files |
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| 17:51.56 | mikael_ | hello, I have two nic using the tulip driver but only one is detected, how can i do ? |
| 17:52.02 | mfrisch | britt: I thinnk 750mb freaks out http. |
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| 17:52.38 | jair_11 | Justin, I am sorry to bother you, if I am doing it tell me and I will do bother you anymore. I have this 1- I add this line to my source.lst deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main 2- I have to add Package: * Pin: release a=sarge-backports Pin-Priority: 200 to deactivate all the packages in backport.org 3- apt-get update and 4- I run---> apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice.org |
| 17:52.42 | smiler1987 | just out of intrest whats the diffrence would an amd use i386 as well as the intel? |
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| 17:53.08 | britt | mfrisch: so in the future, can tar be made to split files into 600mb segments? |
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| 17:53.35 | jair_11 | Justin, because I am following what the instructions are telling me. I can skip the second entry to the ap-get preferences and do the last command better "That is what they say in the site" |
| 17:53.49 | |XO| | whats better for a web server(apache + php) dual processors or dual core? |
| 17:54.07 | mfrisch | britt: yup I think its the split command.... |
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| 17:54.51 | Justin | |XO|: ask intel? |
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| 17:55.21 | |XO| | Justin i dont see intel in the channel |
| 17:55.33 | fantomas | hehe |
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| 17:56.01 | belkin | is there any gui tool to configure running services ? |
| 17:56.07 | Laibsch | Hi, anyone using a tftp server here? I tried to set up tftp-hpa but failed. The server will just not start although I have told it to in /etc/default/tftp-hpa. No hints in the syslog :-( |
| 17:56.18 | belkin | system config services ? |
| 17:56.24 | belkin | something like this |
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| 17:56.55 | fantomas | |XO|: are you going to run it on linux debian? |
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| 17:58.06 | jelly | smiler1987: yes. |
| 17:58.06 | |XO| | fantomas yup |
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| 17:58.27 | en1gma | hey all wuzzup |
| 17:58.40 | |XO| | i used to like redhat....but upgrading and mainting redhat is a pain |
| 17:58.43 | en1gma | what is debians live cd called? is it damnsmalllinux or is it other |
| 17:58.58 | jelly | smiler1987: an 64-bit AMD could use x86-64 too. |
| 17:58.58 | Justin | en1gma: well it isn't the literacy rate... |
| 17:59.00 | fantomas | |XO|: also try to ask same question on #apache channel |
| 17:59.11 | en1gma | what |
| 17:59.13 | jair_11 | jelly, how are you??? |
| 17:59.22 | jair_11 | jelly, remember me?? |
| 17:59.26 | timhardy | en1gma - dsl is debian based - but probably you're thinking of knoppix |
| 17:59.26 | Justin | en1gma: debian does not have a live cd. the closest thing may be DFS |
| 17:59.27 | Justin | !+dfs |
| 17:59.28 | dpkg | dfs is, like, Debian From Scratch, is a new unofficial installer for Debian with software raid support and other goodies. See http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2004/05/msg01431.html for details. |
| 17:59.29 | CoNdA^ | Hello, I got a problem with two bin/cue files. I have burned them out on cds but they wont be mounted; mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc, - anyone know about this ? |
| 17:59.31 | jelly | jair_11: fine, you? |
| 17:59.46 | en1gma | thanks |
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| 17:59.51 | Justin | CoNdA^: what does file -s /dev/hdc say? |
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| 18:00.08 | jair_11 | jelly, very good how was your Christmas? |
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| 18:00.13 | CoNdA^ | justin: data |
| 18:00.16 | ambrose | Why won't dpkg-reconfigure reconfigure stuff for me? It just returns with no output at all, even with the -plow option |
| 18:00.18 | alex | hola |
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| 18:00.29 | Justin | CoNdA^: then there is no filesystem on the cd |
| 18:00.37 | jair_11 | you are in hungry right? |
| 18:00.37 | alex | anyone speak spanish? |
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| 18:00.53 | jair_11 | alex, yo pero te recomiendo #debian-es |
| 18:01.11 | CoNdA^ | justin: I am pretty sure they are svcd's. is it some special option I should use ? |
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| 18:01.22 | jetscreamer | !es |
| 18:01.23 | dpkg | Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #debian-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda. Spanish Speakers: Please use #debian-es, there you will get much more help. |
| 18:01.28 | jair_11 | jelly, did you remmeber the projects I want it to work on |
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| 18:01.36 | smiler1987 | can someone point me in the direction of information on powerpc i386 etc which one to use |
| 18:01.50 | belkin | how do i remove the previos kernel ? |
| 18:01.54 | jelly | jair_11: I do remember. |
| 18:02.00 | ocupado | dpkg thanks |
| 18:02.00 | dpkg | de nada, ocupado |
| 18:02.04 | belkin | * previous |
| 18:02.05 | jetscreamer | smiler1987: ppc is for a mac and i386 is for intel |
| 18:02.06 | PENIXOR | do i have to using xwindows to load the kernel linux can use from xp? |
| 18:02.06 | jair_11 | jelly, we have to follow up with those my friend |
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| 18:02.22 | jair_11 | jelly, what is exactly the contry where you are living now? |
| 18:02.24 | jetscreamer | PENIXOR: what? |
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| 18:02.38 | jair_11 | Justin, it is that ok that looks good to do? |
| 18:02.45 | Justin | jair_11: try it? |
| 18:02.57 | smiler1987 | jetscreamer: how about ai64 |
| 18:03.03 | jair_11 | Justin, haven't yet |
| 18:03.12 | jetscreamer | smiler1987: beyond me |
| 18:03.16 | jair_11 | Justin, I was waiitng for your oppinion. |
| 18:03.33 | jetscreamer | oh. it's sunday. |
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| 18:03.36 | jair_11 | Justin, but I will do it I think will be ok. |
| 18:03.43 | jair_11 | Justin, I will let you know |
| 18:03.45 | smiler1987 | jetscreamer: would i386 work with amd as well do you know? |
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| 18:04.02 | jelly | smiler1987: ia64 is for Itanium, totally different thing. |
| 18:04.13 | jelly | jair_11: Croatia |
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| 18:04.24 | ohad | hi, strangly, after installing firefox, now when i try exec it nothing happens for a strange reason. how do i find out why firefox doesn't open anymore? |
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| 18:04.38 | jair_11 | jelly, but we have to walk little bit about the dirvish and also the other stuff for the schools, remember I mentioned to you. |
| 18:04.48 | A-abc | hello, i have a problem; when i run cat /proc/net/ip_conntrack|grep [UNREPLIED]|sort -u | wc -l ; i have something like 17023 connections |
| 18:04.51 | smiler1987 | jelly: so what do AMD processors use? |
| 18:04.52 | timhardy | ohad: is the path right? check which firefox |
| 18:04.58 | A-abc | how could i flush the conntrack table? |
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| 18:05.24 | jair_11 | jelly, that is nice I went to Germany this December I think I told you that, I also stop in Italy. But I would really like to visit Croatia |
| 18:05.26 | jelly | smiler1987: i386 or x86-64. |
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| 18:05.37 | ohad | timhardy, i've installed ff on my home path dir. i tried to run it both as root and as a normal user. i've installed 1.5 from source |
| 18:06.04 | ohad | timhardy, i couldn't find any process running of mozilla-ff or just ff.... |
| 18:06.12 | smiler1987 | thanks jelly |
| 18:06.22 | DJ-Marcuzz | Menthol1 |
| 18:06.28 | DJ-Marcuzz | whoeps |
| 18:06.51 | jair_11 | jelly, I am right now updating a little bit my system using the backports.org :) |
| 18:07.16 | timhardy | ohad: debian will be expecting to find it in /usr/bin/firefox so find the new from source mozilla bin and symlink it to /usr/bin/firefox |
| 18:07.23 | ohad | timhardy, i also tried to remove it completely the apt-get pkg and the source. and reinstall it. nothing.. |
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| 18:07.43 | tjobo | Is there any "msn client" for debian ? :) |
| 18:07.46 | jelly | jair_11: why don't you drop me a mail to discuss the details for that app. |
| 18:07.55 | bucky | tjobo: gaim |
| 18:08.00 | timhardy | tjobo: kopete works with msn too |
| 18:08.12 | tjobo | ok ;D ill try those ;D |
| 18:08.22 | DJ-Marcuzz | !tell DJ-Marcuzz about backports |
| 18:08.36 | timhardy | ohad: when it compiles is it not creating a firefox binary ? |
| 18:08.54 | ohad | timhardy, i thought it did.. |
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| 18:09.41 | jair_11 | jelly, yes I will |
| 18:10.00 | bucky | ohad: there's a precompiled binary at http://www.mozilla.com/firefox/ |
| 18:10.01 | jair_11 | jelly, we will talk about it |
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| 18:10.18 | jetscreamer | amsn |
| 18:10.28 | bucky | untar it as user in your home dir and run it from a run box with firefox/firefox |
| 18:10.34 | timhardy | ohad: I've just installed the standard firefox with apt-get - /usr/bin/firefox is a symlink to /lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox |
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| 18:12.20 | ohad | timhardy, i think i got it. thanks! |
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| 18:12.42 | timhardy | ohad: you're welcome |
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| 18:14.57 | B_S | Ji people |
| 18:15.00 | B_S | *Hi |
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| 18:15.22 | timhardy | hey B_S |
| 18:15.39 | B_S | timhardy: hau? |
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| 18:16.13 | pioupiou | hello all |
| 18:16.18 | timhardy | B_S hey, hi, hello |
| 18:16.22 | B_S | Somebody from Brazil here? |
| 18:16.26 | abrotman | !br |
| 18:16.26 | dpkg | Esse canal e apenas em ingles. Por favor, use #debian-br (/j #debian-br) para ajuda em portugues. |
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| 18:17.09 | riot | Hi. |
| 18:17.21 | pioupiou | i try to configure my xwindow becaus my screen is not find by debian |
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| 18:17.38 | Mcklaren | hi |
| 18:17.48 | pioupiou | i have a acer laptop screen : 15.4 wxga |
| 18:17.55 | pioupiou | hi |
| 18:18.01 | abrotman | pioupiou: look for EE lines in the error log |
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| 18:18.28 | bucky | pioupiou: /msg dpkg drxx |
| 18:18.50 | pioupiou | abrotman i have read no screens found |
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| 18:19.33 | tjobo | ;D |
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| 18:19.41 | pioupiou | bucky i have already reconfigure xwindow |
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| 18:20.29 | abrotman | pioupiou: no other error lines ? |
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| 18:20.40 | elvirolo | hi all |
| 18:20.45 | pioupiou | hi |
| 18:20.47 | abrotman | grep EE /var/log/<yourXlog> |
| 18:21.04 | pioupiou | ok |
| 18:21.20 | shad0w1e | question: I moved the contents of my entire root dir into a directory called /oldsystem. Is there any way to move the files back into / now, without the use of a Live CD? |
| 18:21.32 | beaufils | I got an Lacie d2 triple interface (usb2/fw400/fw800) which works perfectly on my powerbook with usb2 and fw800. When I try to use it on an old Dell Inspiron 8000 with only fw400 the disk does not work at all (even the power led does not lid). Any idea ? |
| 18:21.42 | shad0w1e | as you can imagine, I'm having trouble running any sort of command now! |
| 18:21.47 | abrotman | don't buy dell? :) |
| 18:21.54 | Justin | shad0w1e: you have busybox isntalled ? |
| 18:22.10 | shad0w1e | Justin, not sure, but likely? |
| 18:22.24 | shad0w1e | see the thing is that I'm in an ssh session, I'm not local to the box. |
| 18:22.34 | pioupiou | (EE) VGA(0): Driver can't support depth 24(EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.Fatal server error:no screens found |
| 18:22.54 | abrotman | guess that's your answer |
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| 18:23.01 | pioupiou | yaeh ;) |
| 18:23.04 | Justin | shad0w1e: should be able to do LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/oldsystem/lib:/oldsystem/usr/lib cmd |
| 18:23.15 | Justin | pioupiou: why are you using the vga driver |
| 18:23.17 | beaufils | shad0w1e, did you try : cp /oldsystem/bin/cp /mycp ; /mycp /oldsystem/* / ? |
| 18:23.49 | tjobo | mjaaaaadaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa |
| 18:23.51 | jetscreamer | abrotman: fieldysnuts said he was still banned btw |
| 18:23.53 | pioupiou | justin because i have a 15.4 acer screen |
| 18:23.56 | elvirolo | i'm using sid and my dead keys (ctrl, shift, etc...) aren't working... do i have to change my keymap, add xkb rules ? |
| 18:24.09 | abrotman | jetscreamer: i know |
| 18:24.11 | pioupiou | and it s not found with ati |
| 18:24.17 | jair_11 | Justin, do I need to ap-get remove the old package installed from the debian stable?? before install the one from backports.org? |
| 18:24.39 | beaufils | shad0w1e, this will work if you set your LD_LIBRARY_PATH as Justin said since cp needs at least libc.so.6 and maybe some other libraries |
| 18:24.52 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: for x you probably need to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-(xorg|xfree86) |
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| 18:25.18 | jetscreamer | for console dpkg-reconfigure locales && dpkg-reconfigure console-data maybe |
| 18:25.32 | elvirolo | jetscreamer, i already tried that without success :( i'll try it again though |
| 18:25.35 | abrotman | jetscreamer: and probably permanently |
| 18:25.51 | pioupiou | thank i retry |
| 18:25.51 | shad0w1e | root@0[bin]# LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/oldsystem/lib:/oldsystem/usr/lib |
| 18:25.51 | shad0w1e | root@0[bin]# ls |
| 18:25.52 | shad0w1e | bash: /bin/ls: No such file or directory |
| 18:25.52 | shad0w1e | root@0[bin]# |
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| 18:26.07 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: if that doesn't help there are many ppl in here smarter than me |
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| 18:26.21 | elvirolo | jetscreamer, ok thanks anyway :) |
| 18:26.44 | jetscreamer | but the xserver one 'should' work |
| 18:28.02 | elvirolo | i need to cut and paste symbols that i need and that don't work on my keyboard from the net lol |
| 18:28.15 | Justin | jair_11: that would probably be a good idea |
| 18:28.16 | jair_11 | when I am installing some package from backports.org should I remove the "old application" the install the one from backports.org??? |
| 18:28.25 | jair_11 | Justin, got it |
| 18:28.25 | abrotman | jetscreamer: certainly those that can spell people :) |
| 18:28.26 | Justin | shad0w1e: that isn't what I told you to type |
| 18:28.44 | jair_11 | thanks maybe apt-get --purge remove package |
| 18:28.45 | abrotman | !keymap |
| 18:28.45 | dpkg | To change your console keymap, run "dpkg-reconfigure console-data". To change your X keymap, read "man xmodmap" or ask me about "set up x". if you have X check into xkeycaps and xev, or also ask me about drxx |
| 18:28.49 | Justin | shad0w1e: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/oldsystem/lib:/oldsystem/usr/lib /oldsystem/bin/ls |
| 18:29.07 | jetscreamer | ah... i was spelling powerpolelightning |
| 18:29.12 | jetscreamer | yeah that's it |
| 18:29.14 | shad0w1e | bash: /oldsystem/bin/ls: No such file or directory |
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| 18:29.24 | Justin | shad0w1e: did you type it on one line like I said? |
| 18:29.28 | shad0w1e | pasted it! |
| 18:29.44 | shad0w1e | yes, on one line! |
| 18:29.52 | Justin | shad0w1e: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/oldsystem/lib:/oldsystem/usr/lib |
| 18:30.29 | Justin | shad0w1e: then /oldsystem/usr/bin/ldd /oldsystem/bin/ls |
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| 18:31.16 | shad0w1e | bash: /oldsystem/usr/bin/ldd: /bin/bash: bad interpreter: No such file or directory |
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| 18:31.49 | Justin | ooh, ldd is a shell script, duh |
| 18:32.03 | _kill-9 | hey i have a question i have a usb modem and i need to put the username and password in the modem and I'm just installing it what should i put in the command line to used ppp |
| 18:32.09 | nk | hi there. anyone has experience in usnig a philips/logitech webcam with debian? I modprobed the pwx-module but cannot start webcam or gqcam because of missing /dev/video file |
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| 18:32.36 | dj-death | Hi all |
| 18:32.37 | blondie | nk: you have to mknod it manually |
| 18:32.50 | dj-death | could someone help me with raidtools2 ? |
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| 18:32.57 | Justin | shad0w1e: what does /oldsystem/bin/ls do? |
| 18:33.06 | shad0w1e | bash: /oldsystem/bin/ls: No such file or directory |
| 18:33.12 | dj-death | I cant remount my raid array |
| 18:33.21 | shad0w1e | even though tab completion showed it! |
| 18:33.28 | SeicherlBoB | i got lazarus running for more than a week now (filerecovery). since about 48 hours it's not creating a single fileoutput, but the process is running, using cpu and mem. is it hanging? what can i do? |
| 18:33.39 | nk | blondie: hm. and how exactly? |
| 18:33.40 | elvirolo | huh still doesn't work |
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| 18:34.40 | SeicherlBoB | compared to the normal amount of data it produced it should have recoverd about 1,2 GB of data during that time... now i'm getting a bit nervous |
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| 18:35.20 | blondie | nk: try mknod /dev/video0 c 81 0 |
| 18:35.36 | _kill-9 | hey i have a question i have a usb modem and i need to put the username and password in the modem and I'm just installing it what should i put in the command line to used ppp |
| 18:35.51 | nk | hm blondie. still complains :/ |
| 18:35.51 | _kill-9 | lppp or something like that |
| 18:35.57 | Justin | shad0w1e: I can do that to a system here and see what it takes to fix it :-) |
| 18:35.59 | elvirolo | and there's something else : i didn't to low-level format my hard drive so i reinstalled sid, but now kde won't start up : it craches when the splashcreen say "initializing peripherals" ... is there a log file i can have a look at ? |
| 18:36.14 | blondie | nk: is it looking for video0 or video (the same as you created)? |
| 18:36.23 | nk | blondie: how can I easily check before if my camera is detected correctly? |
| 18:36.24 | abrotman | elvirolo: ask #debian-kde if there is a log |
| 18:36.25 | shad0w1e | Justin, oh so you don't know... you dont need to do that!! |
| 18:36.34 | blondie | nk: dmesg |
| 18:36.37 | Justin | shad0w1e: virtual machines :-) |
| 18:36.38 | SeicherlBoB | _kill-9: what kind of connection? adsl? cable? and what country. there are some differences sometimes |
| 18:36.40 | nk | blondie: it's looking for /dev/video, but I did take care and adapted your command ;) |
| 18:36.41 | shad0w1e | I can just phone my friend and ask them to boot into a live cd! |
| 18:36.44 | _kill-9 | SeicherlBoB adsl |
| 18:36.47 | blondie | nk: k |
| 18:36.50 | elvirolo | abrotman, ok thanks |
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| 18:36.56 | nk | blondie: well dmesg just tells me that the module is successfully loaded |
| 18:36.57 | SeicherlBoB | _kill-9: what country? |
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| 18:36.57 | _kill-9 | but i used usb and i need to put the username and password SeicherlBoB |
| 18:36.57 | Justin | shad0w1e: the LD_LIBRARY path should work, it probably just needs another dir |
| 18:37.16 | _kill-9 | SeicherlBoB chillie |
| 18:37.16 | blondie | nk: umm dunno |
| 18:37.16 | houn | Waddup #Debian? |
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| 18:37.43 | SeicherlBoB | _kill-9: sorry, all i got is an austrian howto, written in german... that won't help much. |
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| 18:37.59 | _kill-9 | any hints that u can give me SeicherlBoB |
| 18:38.01 | shad0w1e | Justin, oh I need to fix the path!! |
| 18:38.06 | abrotman | !u |
| 18:38.06 | dpkg | Damnit Jim! It's YOU. Y-O-U. Not *U*. U is a letter. YOU is a word. See ne1, or wud. Dutch for 'you' (formal singular). See http://ars.userfriendly.org/cartoons/?id=20041201 |
| 18:38.09 | shad0w1e | I exported LD_LIBRARY |
| 18:38.13 | SeicherlBoB | _kill-9: and i never used an usb modem. always had ethernet |
| 18:38.17 | houn | How's Installing and Maintaining Debian these days? Easy, hard? What's the learning curve for a Gentoo refugee? |
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| 18:38.32 | abrotman | houn: it's pretty easy |
| 18:38.39 | Justin | shad0w1e: ah, does it work now? |
| 18:38.50 | abrotman | houn: though until you're familiar with debian .. probably stick with stable .. which as a gentoo refugee .. may irk you |
| 18:38.55 | _kill-9 | abrotman do you know how can i go on kppp on the intallation |
| 18:38.58 | houn | I'm noting the Sid package listing on distrowatch is pretty current. |
| 18:39.01 | _kill-9 | there's an option when you installed debian |
| 18:39.06 | shad0w1e | Justin, I'm gonna try it :) |
| 18:39.14 | abrotman | _kill-9: kppp uses kde .. |
| 18:39.23 | houn | abrotman: I know enough of the Debian basics to get around. And Woody was the reason I jumped the Debian ship the first time ;) |
| 18:39.29 | abrotman | houn: it is .. but sid is an alias for unstable .. where things can break badly |
| 18:39.31 | _kill-9 | abrotman how about any text stuff? |
| 18:39.39 | _kill-9 | in the installation should be |
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| 18:39.40 | abrotman | _kill-9: pppconfig? wvdial? |
| 18:39.53 | triumph | how can i kill a defunct process? |
| 18:39.56 | houn | abrotman: Can break, or Do break? |
| 18:40.02 | abrotman | triumph: kill |
| 18:40.07 | abrotman | houn: stuff breaks |
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| 18:40.10 | paulswm | houn: sid is very current if you don't mind breakage, but if you want always useable, stick with stable or testing, and installation is much easier these days |
| 18:40.11 | abrotman | !sid faq |
| 18:40.11 | dpkg | rumour has it, sid faq is http://wooledge.org/~greg/sidfaq.html |
| 18:40.14 | houn | abrotman: Hmm... |
| 18:40.15 | triumph | abrotman: kill -9 <pid> doesn't work |
| 18:40.28 | elvirolo | so, has anyone got ideas about my non-working dead keys problem,? |
| 18:40.31 | SeicherlBoB | triumph: or killall <processname> |
| 18:40.32 | abrotman | houn: one day your k3b might not start .. the day it will .. that kind of stuff |
| 18:40.35 | abrotman | !zombie |
| 18:40.35 | dpkg | A zombie process is one which has issued an exit(), but whose parent has not yet issued wait() (or one of its variants) to retrieve the exit code. This usually means the parent process is buggy. You can't kill a zombie, because it's already dead; you have to kill the parent, or just ignore the zombie. |
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| 18:41.26 | triumph | SeicherlBoB: "killall java" still doesn't remove the defunt process, but thanks anyway |
| 18:41.33 | abrotman | kill the parent |
| 18:41.49 | paulswm | triumph: you can't kill a zombie, see above |
| 18:41.49 | houn | Perhaps I'm barking up the wrong tree. Perhaps it's impossible to have bleeding-edge and stability all at once. I don't mind some things breaking (Gentoo Refugee, our shit breaks good, hehe), but you're making it sound like "Developers Only" to run Sid. |
| 18:41.51 | abrotman | which hopefully isn't init :) |
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| 18:42.22 | triumph | abrotman: and the parent of java is? |
| 18:42.33 | SeicherlBoB | question: i got lazarus running for more than a week now (filerecovery). since about 48 hours it's not creating a single fileoutput, but the process is running, using cpu and mem. is it hanging? what can i do? |
| 18:42.34 | abrotman | houn: not at all ... many people run sid .. but as i said .. it's easier when you have a good knowledge of debian |
| 18:42.40 | triumph | paulswm: yea, saw it |
| 18:42.40 | paulswm | triumph: a zombie is harmless anyway, it is only taking up a process slot, so it's OK to ignore it |
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| 18:43.24 | houn | abrotman: I just may go for it, then. Half the reason I run linux is to learn anyway ;) |
| 18:43.36 | houn | And I've been vegitating on my Windows partition for far too long... |
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| 18:43.41 | abrotman | houn: there is also testing .. fewer things break .. but they break for longer |
| 18:43.46 | abrotman | (usually) |
| 18:43.47 | jetscreamer | houn: i run sid and can't really stand the oldness of sarge, even though it's recent. etch is bearable, good even, but i wind up wanting more newer later better faster stronger. so sid breaks once in a while, but it gets fixed. keep up and you won't have any problems. |
| 18:43.52 | cheloo | how do i install xserver-xorg in debian ? |
| 18:43.54 | abrotman | like KDE is a freaking mess in testing right now |
| 18:43.57 | abrotman | cheloo: on sarge? |
| 18:44.06 | jetscreamer | but you get to keep both peices when it breaks. |
| 18:44.14 | jetscreamer | pieces |
| 18:44.14 | elvirolo | my sid is completely broken and unstable |
| 18:44.15 | cheloo | abrotman yes |
| 18:44.18 | [Elvis] | what's the command to disable acpi in menu.lst for grub? |
| 18:44.19 | houn | jetscreamer: See, that makes it sound identical to the Gentoo "Oops it's broke" experience, hehe |
| 18:44.21 | jetscreamer | my sid is running fine. |
| 18:44.21 | paulswm | abrotman: Like KDE isn't normally a freaking mess? :P |
| 18:44.22 | abrotman | !tell cheloo about backports |
| 18:44.32 | abrotman | paulswm: no .. it's normally just broken :) |
| 18:44.39 | Justin | shad0w1e: ah.. |
| 18:44.41 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: do you have apt-listbugs? |
| 18:44.52 | elvirolo | yeah, that's the strange thing ;;; everyone's sid seems to be working smoothly |
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| 18:45.00 | [Elvis] | what's the command to disable acpi in grub menu.lst? |
| 18:45.00 | abrotman | [Elvis]: acpi=off .. i think |
| 18:45.03 | Kool-Aid | #fluxbox |
| 18:45.04 | elvirolo | jetscreamer, nope, i'll have a look at it thanks |
| 18:45.06 | [Elvis] | ah k |
| 18:45.07 | Kool-Aid | oopsy |
| 18:45.09 | abrotman | [Elvis]: google should know |
| 18:45.16 | abrotman | or #grub |
| 18:45.17 | Justin | shad0w1e: " /oldsystem/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /oldsystem/bin/mv oldsystem/* . " |
| 18:45.18 | paulswm | elvirolo: I think sid working smoothly is a sign of the apocalypse |
| 18:45.18 | [Elvis] | I thought acpi=no for myself |
| 18:45.19 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 18:45.22 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: you add it on the kernel line |
| 18:45.25 | Justin | shad0w1e: from /, will fix it |
| 18:45.29 | jetscreamer | and iirc it's =off |
| 18:45.39 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: google knoppix cheat codes |
| 18:45.59 | takatumi | !greetings |
| 18:46.00 | dpkg | hello, takatumi |
| 18:46.03 | shad0w1e | justin, lemme try.. |
| 18:46.03 | abrotman | google "grub acpi off" |
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| 18:46.04 | houn | Hey, more of a general question than debian specific, but how's DVD Burning in Linux lately? That's been one of my crutches to stay on Windows. |
| 18:46.11 | elvirolo | paulswm, well, smoothly meaning "usable" :) |
| 18:46.15 | abrotman | houn: seems fine .. many seem to do it |
| 18:46.20 | jetscreamer | houn: i burn em all the time |
| 18:46.21 | takatumi | abrotman: acpi=noacpi |
| 18:46.25 | paulswm | houn: I do quite a lot of it, it works fine |
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| 18:46.46 | houn | cool |
| 18:46.54 | abrotman | takatumi: google says acpi=off :) |
| 18:47.03 | abrotman | takatumi: isn't that apic=noapic ? |
| 18:47.15 | takatumi | abrotman: google harder. :P |
| 18:47.23 | abrotman | takatumi: do it for me! .. google is hard! |
| 18:47.35 | abrotman | takatumi: i only read the first few hit summaries |
| 18:47.35 | jetscreamer | !be a barbie abrotman |
| 18:47.39 | jetscreamer | shit |
| 18:47.42 | jetscreamer | :( |
| 18:47.42 | abrotman | heh |
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| 18:47.48 | paulswm | houn: multimedia conversion works OK, too, but for audio/video conversions you'd want to add marillat to your sources list |
| 18:47.52 | jetscreamer | !barbie abrotman |
| 18:47.53 | elvirolo | god no bugs are reported for that problem |
| 18:47.58 | abrotman | !be jetscreamer barbie |
| 18:47.58 | dpkg | It's HARD to say nothing! |
| 18:48.02 | jetscreamer | ahh |
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| 18:48.03 | elvirolo | nobody seems to be encountering it |
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| 18:48.38 | jetscreamer | elvirolo: i removed all of gnome and kde and put them back just for grins... maybe that was it |
| 18:49.10 | cheloo | abrotman so its better not to ? |
| 18:49.17 | elvirolo | jetscreamer, well; i reinstalled sid just yesterday |
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| 18:49.27 | Justin | shad0w1e: it worked here at least :-) |
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| 18:49.29 | abrotman | cheloo: that's up to you ... i am not running sarge, so i already have xorg |
| 18:49.34 | jetscreamer | i have to wonder what install cd you used |
| 18:49.45 | cheloo | abrotman what are you running ? |
| 18:49.53 | shad0w1e | .... |
| 18:50.02 | elvirolo | i'd already had the deadkeys prob in the past, but a dist-upgrade solved the prob |
| 18:50.09 | abrotman | cheloo: etch |
| 18:50.25 | cheloo | abrotman its it better ? |
| 18:50.26 | abrotman | cheloo: though if you're a KDE user, i'd avoid etch for now |
| 18:50.34 | elvirolo | jetscreamer, i used the sarge basic netinstall, then changed my sources.list and installed kde |
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| 18:50.46 | cheloo | abrotman why ? |
| 18:50.53 | abrotman | cheloo: it's about 2/3 there :) |
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| 18:51.27 | cheloo | abrotman 2 / 3 what ? |
| 18:51.40 | abrotman | 2/3 there .. the rest is missing apparently |
| 18:51.43 | cheloo | abrotman why i should install etch if im using kde ? |
| 18:51.47 | abrotman | not missing .. just not in etch |
| 18:51.55 | jetscreamer | cheloo: he didn't say that |
| 18:51.57 | abrotman | cheloo: i just said you shouldn't :) |
| 18:51.57 | cheloo | abrotman what kde application ? |
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| 18:52.06 | abrotman | k3b is the most obvious |
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| 18:52.22 | cheloo | abrotman i still dont get you . whats missing man in etch ? |
| 18:52.25 | abrotman | blackbox! |
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| 18:52.35 | abrotman | cheloo: you cannot install k3b in etch currently |
| 18:52.38 | kspath | !mhallsmite abrotman |
| 18:52.40 | jetscreamer | cheloo: there are some kde packages missing is what i think he meant |
| 18:52.42 | abrotman | no kidding |
| 18:52.49 | cheloo | abrotman hmm |
| 18:52.55 | cheloo | that`s bad then |
| 18:52.56 | cheloo | :) |
| 18:53.03 | cheloo | abrotman but gnome works right ? |
| 18:53.08 | jetscreamer | s/packages/dependencies |
| 18:53.12 | clearscreen | hmmmm is there a piece of software available for debian that allows me to browse through ntfs partitions? I've found ntfsprogs but it's more a set of tools to format etc instead of browing around on the partition. Thanks |
| 18:53.12 | abrotman | cheloo: i use it .. seems fine |
| 18:53.19 | jetscreamer | icewm works and you aren't a real man unless you use icewm |
| 18:53.21 | jetscreamer | :p |
| 18:53.36 | abrotman | clearscreen: you can mount it read-only |
| 18:53.37 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: just mount it |
| 18:53.42 | abrotman | !ntfsro |
| 18:53.42 | dpkg | add a line similar to: /dev/hdd1 /mnt/hdd1 ntfs ro,user,auto,gid=24,uid=1001,fmask=0333,dmask=0222 to your fstab... change the hdxx and uid, and maybe the gid if you want. |
| 18:53.52 | jetscreamer | abrotman: remember the rw in the newer kernels.. :o |
| 18:54.02 | jetscreamer | hey what a nice factoid |
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| 18:54.12 | clearscreen | abrotman, jetscreamer, how do I exactly mount ntfs partitions |
| 18:54.16 | cheloo | abrotman what about the previous etch version ? |
| 18:54.20 | abrotman | jetscreamer: you use it on your data . i'll avoid it |
| 18:54.26 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: abrotman just invoked the bot to tell you how |
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| 18:54.30 | abrotman | cheloo: doesn't work .. C++ ABI differences |
| 18:54.30 | kspath | I feel dirty now that is a nasty smite |
| 18:54.32 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: scroll up |
| 18:54.36 | jetscreamer | yeah it is |
| 18:54.36 | clearscreen | ah I see :) |
| 18:54.38 | clearscreen | thank you |
| 18:54.46 | shad0w1e | Justin, sorry about that -- occupied on the phone.. it has not worked... |
| 18:54.52 | cheloo | abrotman hmm so now you`re telling me i cannot install debian on my system :( |
| 18:54.59 | cheloo | abrotman i dont wanna use xfre86 |
| 18:55.00 | clearscreen | It's not very easy to read in bitchx |
| 18:55.06 | jetscreamer | abrotman: no i meant remember to warn em about it... i never tried it lately (ntfs-rw) |
| 18:55.12 | shad0w1e | The interesting thing is that it picks up the path now. |
| 18:55.13 | cheloo | abrotman so i have no choice to install a diff os |
| 18:55.25 | shad0w1e | when I type in "ls" |
| 18:55.29 | shad0w1e | gives me this |
| 18:55.31 | shad0w1e | bash: /oldsystem/bin/ls: No such file or directory |
| 18:55.45 | abrotman | cheloo: not at all .. use stable |
| 18:55.54 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: /msg dpkg ro-ntfs |
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| 18:56.07 | clearscreen | ty |
| 18:56.24 | jetscreamer | or ntfsro |
| 18:56.28 | kspath | cheloo let us away from here to a world without Xwindows where ttys frolic in the fields |
| 18:56.43 | clearscreen | heh how do I know what hd[xx] is my ntfs partition |
| 18:56.55 | cheloo | kspath well i need x server man :) |
| 18:56.55 | abrotman | fdisk -l |
| 18:56.55 | jetscreamer | it's 'probably' hda1 |
| 18:56.59 | jetscreamer | but that's a guess |
| 18:57.07 | cheloo | abrotman you mean sarge stable ? |
| 18:57.11 | clearscreen | I have 2 of them |
| 18:57.14 | clearscreen | so yea, fdisk -l |
| 18:57.15 | jetscreamer | what i do is cfdisk /dev/hdaX and look |
| 18:57.17 | abrotman | cheloo: sure |
| 18:57.17 | jetscreamer | or that |
| 18:57.22 | jetscreamer | fdisk -l is good |
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| 18:57.32 | phar0z | hi clearscreen :) |
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| 18:57.38 | clearscreen | hi phar0z |
| 18:57.45 | cheloo | abrotman yeah but in sage i cannot use xorg , and xfree86 aint working for me |
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| 18:58.27 | abrotman | cheloo: i told you .. /msg dpkg backports |
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| 18:58.35 | clearscreen | actually it wasnt hda because I have a sata disk :) |
| 18:58.35 | abrotman | cheloo: you can easily install it for sarge |
| 18:58.37 | ryanium | Wow Peyton Manning is CHOKING it up |
| 18:58.38 | ryanium | lol |
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| 18:58.50 | abrotman | ryanium: not really .. the offensive line is :) |
| 18:58.57 | Justin | shad0w1e: no, type what I said! |
| 18:58.59 | clearscreen | .dev/sda1 :) |
| 18:59.02 | ryanium | abrotman, no way, you seeing his throws? |
| 18:59.05 | Justin | shad0w1e: " /oldsystem/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /oldsystem/bin/mv /oldsystem/* / " |
| 18:59.18 | ryanium | abrotman, the only one that was *near* accurate was one to harrison, who had to 1 hand it. |
| 18:59.19 | arsen | anyone have deb dual bootin ona sony tx1hp by any chance?:p |
| 18:59.20 | abrotman | ryanium: i think someone is confused about routes .. remains to be seen if it's the WR or the QB |
| 18:59.33 | kspath | #sports ? |
| 18:59.47 | ryanium | abrotman, hes folded before, im calling him folding just like his brother did earlier in the playoffs hehe. |
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| 19:00.09 | abrotman | ryanium: that wasn't a fold .. that was flat out bad :) |
| 19:00.15 | ryanium | but yes, the oline isn't holding up as good as it should, pittsburgh has a mean dline and bringing all sorts of LB's |
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| 19:00.20 | abrotman | ryanium: and there are still three quarters |
| 19:00.38 | ryanium | falg |
| 19:00.40 | ryanium | NO FLAG? lol |
| 19:00.49 | abrotman | heh |
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| 19:00.53 | ryanium | yes you are right. colts are gonna have to do something quick |
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| 19:01.13 | poppor | What is the best way to transfere big files to friends ??? |
| 19:01.19 | JerJer | ftp |
| 19:01.20 | abrotman | scp! |
| 19:01.22 | abrotman | JerJer: NO |
| 19:01.28 | JerJer | sftp |
| 19:01.35 | ryanium | damn there is no #sports channel |
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| 19:01.37 | ryanium | lets make one :| lol |
| 19:01.43 | shad0w1e | Justin, oh great!, I'm good... |
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| 19:01.53 | shad0w1e | thanks! |
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| 19:01.55 | poppor | JerJer: ssh ? |
| 19:01.59 | abrotman | scp |
| 19:02.01 | cheloo | abrotman joind flood please |
| 19:02.05 | jetscreamer | how about ##sports |
| 19:02.11 | jetscreamer | or ##mutants |
| 19:02.13 | JerJer | has anyone ever attempted to extract files from an RPM file ? |
| 19:02.15 | noideaatall | hello what was the command used to debug a bash script .... something that will show everyline onthe file and show if it was executed or not ? |
| 19:02.24 | jetscreamer | JerJer: alien seems to function |
| 19:02.27 | abrotman | JerJer: man rpm |
| 19:02.29 | JerJer | i have a lame hardware vendor that refuses to create a debian package |
| 19:02.38 | abrotman | noideaatall: ask #bash |
| 19:02.38 | JerJer | so they have given us an rpm for RHEL3 |
| 19:02.45 | noid | is it possible to put regular expressions into apt-get? let's say i want to apt-get remove eclipse* |
| 19:02.54 | jetscreamer | i used alien sucessfully once to create a .deb from a .rpm |
| 19:02.59 | JerJer | No manual entry for rpm |
| 19:03.01 | jetscreamer | yes noid |
| 19:03.04 | JerJer | alien - gotcha |
| 19:03.09 | jetscreamer | you may need to install rpm |
| 19:03.13 | jetscreamer | alien will draw it in |
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| 19:03.43 | JerJer | ok |
| 19:03.47 | jetscreamer | noid: my favorite is apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` |
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| 19:04.27 | noid | jetscreamer: ohhh good thanks... i was almost sure that i had tried it in the past without success |
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| 19:05.57 | clearscreen | how do I rehash/reload my fstab config? only possible with a reboot? |
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| 19:06.21 | samael | hello |
| 19:06.26 | noid | clearscreen: mount -a ? |
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| 19:06.38 | clearscreen | ok thanks |
| 19:06.39 | noid | clearscreen: if that's what you mean |
| 19:06.45 | clearscreen | yes thats what I meant :) |
| 19:06.50 | noid | good (: |
| 19:07.23 | jetscreamer | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:07.38 | poppor | How can I find out what country and IP is located ? |
| 19:08.19 | Justin | poppor: whois, geoip |
| 19:08.31 | poppor | ahh thanks |
| 19:08.50 | abrotman | arin.net |
| 19:09.17 | shad0w1e | Justin, "/oldsystem/lib/ld-linux.so.2 /oldsystem/bin/mv oldsystem/newsystem/* ." worked like a charm |
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| 19:09.21 | shad0w1e | thanks!!! |
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| 19:09.34 | abrotman | !knoppix |
| 19:09.34 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
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| 19:10.32 | kspath_ | poppor: there are no absolutes with IPs but what they told you is a great start sometimes a traceroute/mtr will tell you interesting things |
| 19:10.43 | Texou | could you remind me of/leave |
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| 19:11.26 | kspath_ | poppor: if it is related to security/spam than all bets are off since likely what happen/happening the perp is not in/at that/those IP(s) |
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| 19:12.30 | unicron | does anyone know how to get sound to work on knoppix |
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| 19:12.36 | poppor | kspath_: Yeah I know |
| 19:12.42 | bbrazil | unicron: #knoppix |
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| 19:13.01 | unicron | bbrazil: what do you mean |
| 19:13.03 | [Elvis] | what's the commando to install xfree86? |
| 19:13.06 | poppor | If I don't want to give out SSH accounts.. what is the other best way to xfer files to friends ? |
| 19:13.07 | infinity1 | does anyone log iptables and NOT get messages on the console? |
| 19:13.10 | [Elvis] | with x system? |
| 19:13.33 | abrotman | !setupx |
| 19:13.33 | unicron | poppor: how do I get sound to work on knoppix |
| 19:13.35 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: stable/sarge, or etch/testing |
| 19:13.39 | [Elvis] | stable/sarge |
| 19:13.40 | jetscreamer | !knoppix |
| 19:13.40 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek knoppix help in #knoppix. For those of you who don't know, knoppix is a livecd distro based on debian. It's useful as a rescue cd, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it doesn't run debian. http://www.knoppix.com/. Please go to #knoppix, or knoppix is no more debian than mandriva is redhat. |
| 19:13.45 | abrotman | [Elvis]: apt-get install x-window-system-core |
| 19:13.52 | jetscreamer | [Elvis]: apt-get install x-....^^\ |
| 19:13.55 | [Elvis] | it's apt-get install xserver-free86 also? |
| 19:14.23 | jetscreamer | no it would be x-window-system. those are metapackages that suck in other packages |
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| 19:14.34 | clearscreen | xwhine is doing good |
| 19:14.38 | jetscreamer | x-window-system would give you more stuff(kruft) than -core |
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| 19:15.04 | jetscreamer | so x-window-system-core should suck in anything you need |
| 19:15.10 | [Elvis] | hmm |
| 19:15.16 | [Elvis] | I'mm allready installing core now :P |
| 19:15.17 | poppor | unicron: No idea |
| 19:15.27 | jetscreamer | me, i like twm :o |
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| 19:15.59 | poppor | kspath_: When I do whois <myip> it reports wrong country |
| 19:16.09 | paulswm | Emigrate! |
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| 19:16.31 | jetscreamer | poppor: that's not a function of your computer, it's the registrar (i think) |
| 19:16.48 | jetscreamer | aka the company who issued the ip |
| 19:16.53 | jetscreamer | err. |
| 19:16.58 | JerJer | sweet - it made debs |
| 19:17.01 | jetscreamer | originally |
| 19:17.05 | poppor | jetscreamer: And that means ? |
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| 19:17.26 | jetscreamer | poppor: mostly, don't worry about it |
| 19:17.43 | jetscreamer | JerJer: now the real test is do the .debs work |
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| 19:17.47 | fangel | I installed apache2 and php5 (from dotdeb) but apache won't load now because apache is running threaded MPM, and PHP isn't capable of this.. - how can I install a non MPM threaded apache2? |
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| 19:18.11 | kspath_ | poppor: google nanog ASN AS ISP NSP traceroute to www.google.com and traceroute to www.yahoo.com observe the IPs and domain names |
| 19:18.13 | poppor | jetscreamer: So ther'es no way to know who owns the IP range ? |
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| 19:18.50 | poppor | kspath_: Sometimes there are no domain names.. just ip addresses.. |
| 19:18.51 | davidw | what's up with the GPG errors and apt.... |
| 19:18.57 | ansong | poppor, whois whould help you there... try www.dnsstuff.com |
| 19:19.01 | ryanium | i love the BK commercials lolol |
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| 19:19.08 | ansong | davidw, see topic |
| 19:19.13 | paulswm | davi: see the /topic |
| 19:19.19 | unicron | anyone know how to get sound to work on knoppix |
| 19:19.26 | paulswm | davi: sorry, wrong nick |
| 19:19.39 | paulswm | unicron: #knoppix |
| 19:19.42 | kspath_ | popper: read learn observe there is no law that says every IP must have a matching PTR record (aka redDNS) even though it is a STRONG guideline |
| 19:19.53 | poppor | ansong: When I do whois on on my own IP it reports the whole Class A IP range.. but they are not all in same country |
| 19:19.58 | jetscreamer | unicron: usually a matter of loading the right sound modules and making sure you're in the audio group |
| 19:19.59 | kspath_ | revDNS argh |
| 19:20.11 | poppor | hmm |
| 19:20.24 | davidw | ansong, paulswm - thanks! |
| 19:20.33 | jetscreamer | unicron: ask in #knoppix, or if you must use livecd, try one with support... (#kanotix) |
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| 19:20.55 | kspath_ | popper: study learn read ASN AS NANOG ARIN APNIC ..... |
| 19:20.59 | unicron | thanks |
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| 19:21.50 | poppor | kspath_: Before I start learning all those things.. what are they ? :) |
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| 19:22.04 | jetscreamer | kspath: i always like to aim for the corner of the desk |
| 19:22.46 | tonix | hi guys, my /var/log/messages is about 1.5 Gb!! why??? |
| 19:22.50 | paulswm | I prefer banging other people's heads on the corner of the desk, doesn't hurt as much |
| 19:22.51 | davidw | man, thunderbird's antispam filter kind of sucks:-( |
| 19:23.03 | davidw | tonix, you have lots of messages?:-) |
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| 19:23.09 | spiekey | hello! |
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| 19:23.26 | tonix | davidw: yes, i know!!! |
| 19:23.26 | paulswm | 726 people say hello |
| 19:23.28 | clearscreen | oh god.. xserver is acting weird again |
| 19:23.33 | tonix | but why!!?? |
| 19:23.35 | abrotman | !distract paulswm |
| 19:23.36 | jetscreamer | !hi spiekey |
| 19:23.43 | clearscreen | everything is white |
| 19:23.47 | davidw | tonix, try doing tail -f on it and see what's filling it up |
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| 19:24.02 | paulswm | abra0xas: heh |
| 19:24.12 | paulswm | abra0xas: sry, wrong nick |
| 19:24.14 | abrotman | !paulswmsmite paulswm |
| 19:24.16 | Rescye | Hello People... Its me again *Sigh* Sound decided it didn't want to work anymore |
| 19:24.24 | Rescye | can anyone help? |
| 19:24.26 | abrotman | how did you break it? |
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| 19:24.39 | DJ-Marcuzz | ow dang, why do i always have trouble like: Sid works and sarge not, but its an server so it needs to be sarge :S |
| 19:24.43 | Rescye | abrotman: I didn't do anything to it, it just gives me that old error again |
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| 19:25.07 | jetscreamer | Rescye: modules not being loaded on reboot? (just a wild guess) |
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| 19:25.18 | Rescye | jetscreamer: maybe, how do i fix that? |
| 19:25.21 | jair_11 | Justin, I am getting this message: caracas:/etc/apt# apt-get install openoffice.org Reading Package Lists... Done E: Invalid record in the preferences file, no Package header |
| 19:25.25 | kspath_ | is there a trollsmite? |
| 19:25.28 | Rescye | jetscreamer: or find out? |
| 19:25.32 | kspath_ | !trollsmite kspath |
| 19:25.35 | kspath_ | no |
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| 19:25.42 | jair_11 | Justin, and normally I did not have a file call "preferences" in /etc/.apt?? |
| 19:25.44 | tonix | davidw: inside my big-big /var/log/messages there are a lot of iptables logs!!! |
| 19:25.46 | jetscreamer | Rescye: well if you had to load the modules with modprobe, add the names of the modules to /etc/modules |
| 19:25.49 | jair_11 | I create it "preferences" |
| 19:25.52 | davidw | tonix, well, there you go.... |
| 19:25.52 | Justin | jair_11: so? |
| 19:26.00 | jair_11 | but it is not working |
| 19:26.04 | Rescye | jetscreamer: I really don't know what your talking about |
| 19:26.10 | davidw | tonix, maybe it's logging every packet, or something like that |
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| 19:26.28 | jetscreamer | Rescye: ok np. i don't know what you had to do to fix the sound in the first place |
| 19:26.48 | Rescye | jetscreamer: I installed Alsa last time, and got a Linux upgrade, :: Laughing Out Loud :: |
| 19:26.53 | jair_11 | Justin, I try to install the openoffice and nothing and I try uisng both commands: apt-get -t sarge-backports install openoffice,org |
| 19:27.06 | Justin | jair_11: you likely didn't get "nothing" |
| 19:27.11 | [Elvis] | what can I do when apt says I have unmet dependencies? |
| 19:27.25 | Justin | [Elvis]: depends on what they are |
| 19:27.26 | jetscreamer | !fix-unmet |
| 19:27.26 | dpkg | hmm... fix-unmet is run dselect --expert. hit the down arrow once. then hit enter a lot. problem solved. (if the packages are available and/or scripts not borked), or eg, basically, don't edit sources, don't select anything, just go to option 2 and hit enter a lot |
| 19:27.27 | tonix | davidw: yesh, i think so!! thanks a lot |
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| 19:27.47 | [Elvis] | Justin libc6 |
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| 19:27.58 | Justin | [Elvis]: what did you do to your system? |
| 19:28.08 | [Elvis] | not much basically I have stable |
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| 19:28.21 | [Elvis] | and want to install nvidia-glx-legacy |
| 19:28.30 | tonix_ | david: but messages is not rotated by logrotate? |
| 19:28.30 | n00b | hi there |
| 19:28.38 | takatumi | Rescye: did you run alsaconf? |
| 19:28.46 | jair_11 | Justin, right |
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| 19:28.48 | poppor | Is there a directx equivalence in linux ? |
| 19:28.48 | Rescye | takatumi: yes, back when i installed it |
| 19:29.01 | n00b | anyone knows how to change the graphics driver @ knoppix ? im new to it :( |
| 19:29.05 | jair_11 | Justin, I will paste my fiels on pastebin for you |
| 19:29.16 | takatumi | Rescye: didn't follow the conversation, what's wrong now? |
| 19:29.26 | LinuxNIT | how do i make mysql start on boot? |
| 19:29.34 | jetscreamer | Rescye: so what you need to maybe figure out is if alsa or oss is being loaded on_boot, and disable oss. if you use discover or hotplug, you need to tell them to stop loading oss (this is one possible reason sound oesn't work) |
| 19:29.35 | Rescye | takatumi: sound just wont work |
| 19:29.36 | takatumi | n00b: install debian. |
| 19:29.38 | jetscreamer | doesn't |
| 19:29.47 | Rescye | jetscreamer: umm... what? |
| 19:29.47 | takatumi | Rescye: lsmod |grep snd |
| 19:29.50 | davidw | later... |
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| 19:29.59 | jetscreamer | what takatumi said Rescye |
| 19:30.00 | jair_11 | Justin, http://pastebin.com/507113 |
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| 19:30.15 | Rescye | takatumi: send you the result in PM? |
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| 19:30.38 | kspath_ | who the devil put gedit as an alternative to using nano to edit sources under CLI apt tools wtf |
| 19:30.55 | takatumi | !paster |
| 19:30.56 | dpkg | Instead of pasting in #debian or #flood, use paster, your friendly paste bot. Visit http://channels.debian.net/paste then select #debian and paste away. |
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| 19:31.03 | thechitowncubs | Is there any way I can restrict the upload speed my server lets out to remote connections? |
| 19:31.13 | jetscreamer | yes it's called QoS iirc |
| 19:31.29 | cheloo | i was waiting 7 min now to boot my system .. this cannot be normal |
| 19:31.29 | takatumi | thechitowncubs: trickle? |
| 19:31.31 | kspath_ | since when does gedit have a text/curses interface without gnome being needed |
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| 19:31.39 | jair_11 | Justin, http://pastebin.com/507118 |
| 19:31.42 | thechitowncubs | takatumi, not familiar with that |
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| 19:31.50 | cheloo | i just install a fresh xserver-xorg and i still have problems with the machine |
| 19:31.53 | thechitowncubs | But I just set up a home server and I don't want it sucking all my upload bandwidth |
| 19:31.57 | jair_11 | Justin, those are the two things I change |
| 19:32.00 | jetscreamer | OMG my cat knocked my microsoft notepad off the desk! (a pad of paper with ms logo on it) |
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| 19:32.26 | cheloo | did i miss any kde apckage or something ?. or what else can i do to have a proper machine installed ? |
| 19:32.39 | Rescye | takatumi: http://channels.debian.net/paste/1568 |
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| 19:32.44 | takatumi | cheloo: what problems? |
| 19:32.45 | jetscreamer | cheloo: what are the problems |
| 19:32.55 | jetscreamer | no answer takatumi not me :) |
| 19:33.00 | cheloo | takatumi booting the systems take 7 mins |
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| 19:33.14 | jetscreamer | cheloo: that's not a function of X |
| 19:33.15 | abrotman | cheloo: are you belkin ? |
| 19:33.40 | takatumi | Rescye: are the channels unmuted? run alsamixer |
| 19:33.40 | cheloo | abrotman why ? |
| 19:33.42 | keir | If two packages install a conflicting file (for example, djvulibre for evince, and kdelibs 3.5), which hoses apt real good and apt-get -f install doesn't fix anything, how can i tell apt to just ignore one of the packages and go ahed anyway? |
| 19:33.49 | abrotman | cheloo: i'm just asking damn it |
| 19:33.53 | jetscreamer | cheloo: the things i've seen add time to bootup are exim4 and ntpdate not having an internet connection |
| 19:33.55 | cheloo | jetscreamer what is it then ? |
| 19:34.04 | DJ-Marcuzz | one houre to go and then i know if i have to run Sid on my server or if Sarge will do 2 :S |
| 19:34.05 | jetscreamer | esp exim4 |
| 19:34.07 | abrotman | why do people like to argue with me? |
| 19:34.13 | cheloo | jetscreamer lol , anything else ? |
| 19:34.14 | kspath | cheloo: ok "let us go" |
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| 19:34.14 | takatumi | keir: an update may fix that, tried it? |
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| 19:34.26 | cheloo | kspath say what ? |
| 19:34.31 | keir | takatumi, tried update, no dice |
| 19:34.40 | Rescye | takatumi: they're not muted... |
| 19:34.48 | kspath | cheloo: linguistic thing just testing you |
| 19:34.50 | cheloo | so you guy have no clue why its my system so god damm slow |
| 19:34.58 | takatumi | keir: remember having that a couple of days back, forgot how I got through it. ;) |
| 19:35.00 | cheloo | kspath hell yeah |
| 19:35.04 | jetscreamer | cheloo: i just gave you a clue |
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| 19:35.23 | takatumi | Rescye: so when you play sound do you get any errors? |
| 19:35.36 | jetscreamer | cheloo: where is it taking the time? what point in the boot process |
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| 19:35.36 | Rescye | takatumi: according to XMMS, yes. |
| 19:35.36 | cheloo | jetscreamer yeah i know and i said " lol " because i dont have exim4 ntpdate installed |
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| 19:35.45 | takatumi | Rescye: what error? |
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| 19:36.00 | jetscreamer | cheloo: are you sure? exim4 is installed on every box by default |
| 19:36.05 | cheloo | jetscreamer after its start the kdm and xdm |
| 19:36.08 | jetscreamer | ahh |
| 19:36.10 | jetscreamer | uh |
| 19:36.12 | DJ-Marcuzz | but when i install Sid with the netinstall boot floppy, and it is in the config, it says sometthing about something isn't compiled, and skips the time settings part, and the whole downloading part (off proograms like ssh), what could that be? |
| 19:36.17 | jetscreamer | you only want one .. xdm or kdm |
| 19:36.19 | cheloo | jetscreamer i delete it |
| 19:36.21 | takatumi | cheloo: why is kdm and xdm starting? |
| 19:36.29 | cheloo | takatumi dont know |
| 19:36.34 | Rescye | takatumi: "Please check that: \n\n Your soundcard is configured properly \n You have the correct output plugin selected \n No Other Program is blocking the soundcard" |
| 19:36.41 | jetscreamer | cheloo: try apt-get remove --purge xdm |
| 19:36.51 | jetscreamer | unless you use it and like it |
| 19:36.53 | ivanneto | Is there some debian package that is capable of tracking how many megabytes I downloaded/uploaded in a certain period of time (e.g. a month)? |
| 19:36.55 | cheloo | it says now starting kdm and after its also xdm starting |
| 19:37.14 | cheloo | jetscreamer no i dont |
| 19:37.18 | jetscreamer | you only need 1 ?dm |
| 19:37.21 | cheloo | i`ll get rid of it |
| 19:37.26 | keir | i wish apt would at least let me remove packages that are hosing it during an upgrade. gah! |
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| 19:37.32 | takatumi | Rescye: modprobe -r snd_intel8x0; modprobe snd_intel8x0 |
| 19:37.34 | cheloo | jetscreamer yes only kde |
| 19:37.37 | jetscreamer | don't worry if it takes x-window-system with it |
| 19:37.43 | jetscreamer | it's just a metapackage |
| 19:37.50 | cheloo | jetscreamer ok |
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| 19:38.01 | Rescye | takatumi: FATAL: Module snd_intel8x0 is in use. |
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| 19:38.17 | cheloo | jetscreamer this might resolve my problem isnt it ? :) |
| 19:38.53 | cheloo | abrotman talk to me if you dont like " belkin " :) |
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| 19:39.14 | abrotman | cheloo: huh ? |
| 19:39.23 | abrotman | cheloo: i just asked if you were here as belkin |
| 19:39.29 | cheloo | jetscreamer right now im going to reboot my machine , hope works |
| 19:39.34 | abrotman | never mind .. freenode says you are |
| 19:39.48 | cheloo | abrotman and i said yes , and now i said talk to me if you dont like belkin |
| 19:40.17 | abrotman | i don't care .. i was just wondering .. stop being so fucking abusive to people |
| 19:40.18 | cheloo | abrotman that`s what i also said :)) " im belkin " doesnt matter |
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| 19:40.30 | spiekey | is there a tool to find the dependencies when i want to build a deb package? |
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| 19:40.44 | cheloo | abrotman im not abusive to people man |
| 19:40.49 | abrotman | yes you are |
| 19:40.49 | Impl0z | hi there! |
| 19:40.50 | takatumi | Rescye: try to unload the modules using it and reload it. |
| 19:40.57 | spiekey | packages.debian.org is down |
| 19:40.59 | unicron | spiekey: you can use synaptic |
| 19:41.01 | Rescye | takatumi: I don't know how? |
| 19:41.08 | cheloo | abrotman i have two computer and when one aint work then i use the other one with diff nicks |
| 19:41.24 | abrotman | ok .. fine |
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| 19:41.42 | spiekey | unicron: is there something for the console, too? |
| 19:41.52 | _kill-9 | hey how can i configured my dsl with debian, usb dsl on the installation any tools? |
| 19:42.12 | jair_11 | anyone here use backports??? |
| 19:42.13 | Impl0z | _kill-9 => on google |
| 19:42.20 | _kill-9 | Impl0z shut the fuck u |
| 19:42.21 | _kill-9 | p |
| 19:42.27 | Impl0z | ... |
| 19:42.38 | jair_11 | anyone here use backports.org to update applications on stablle debian 3.1 ??? |
| 19:42.43 | Impl0z | arghhhh |
| 19:42.53 | keir | takatumi, dpkg -r evince libdjvulibre15; apt-get -f install |
| 19:42.54 | Impl0z | have you search before? |
| 19:42.59 | Impl0z | (sorry i'm french) |
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| 19:43.22 | kspath | Impl0z: you are forgiven |
| 19:43.23 | keyhack | What package is mplayer in? |
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| 19:43.43 | SerajewelKS | keyhack: it's not in debian |
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| 19:43.48 | SerajewelKS | !mplayer |
| 19:43.48 | dpkg | [mplayer] not packaged by debian for complicated reasons, you want to use vlc or xine instead. if not, either see <marillat>, <marillat key> or <cerkinfo> for pre-built debs, or if you really want to build, build a deb from the source tarball at http://www.mplayerhq.hu/homepage/design7/dload.html, or ask me about <mplayer faq> <w32codecs>, or use mplayer-386 from marillat, not -586. see <mplayer legal saga> |
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| 19:43.53 | squallbsr | is anybody here a postfix guru? |
| 19:44.11 | kspath | there is a #postfix |
| 19:44.13 | paulswm | Impl0z: You did nothing wrong, and I wouldn't bother with someone who's so abusive :) |
| 19:44.20 | paulswm | Hooray, he left |
| 19:44.25 | keyhack | does xine play everything mplayer does? does it have dvd menus? |
| 19:44.29 | kspath | and #exim and #sendmail and #qmail and .... |
| 19:44.30 | squallbsr | yes, #postfix is very quiet - nothing but crickets |
| 19:44.37 | takatumi | heh |
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| 19:44.47 | SerajewelKS | keyhack: for the most part, yes |
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| 19:45.02 | jair_11 | squallbsr, are you trying to install postfix? |
| 19:45.06 | SerajewelKS | keyhack: in my experience, mplayer plays some WMV files that xine will not, and vice-versa |
| 19:45.06 | takatumi | keir: mplayer rules, what's wrong? |
| 19:45.11 | takatumi | keyhack: ^^ |
| 19:45.19 | jelly | Why -386 and not the -586 package? |
| 19:45.19 | takatumi | keir: nice. |
| 19:45.29 | keyhack | takatumi: debian doesnt have a package for it |
| 19:45.30 | Eulex | gah... p.d.o has been invaded by frenchmen |
| 19:45.31 | Impl0z | paulswm => sorry, but i've don't understand everythink |
| 19:45.31 | Impl0z | >_< |
| 19:45.37 | squallbsr | jair_11: I installed postfix, it doesn't deliver mail - more info: http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2010 |
| 19:45.39 | paulswm | keyhack: xine will, but you need the codecs from marillat for some things |
| 19:45.40 | takatumi | keyhack: /msg dpkg marillat |
| 19:45.42 | Rescye | [AMSG] rebooting |
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| 19:46.05 | kspath | I would like to help but I do not help with email since I am an email admin looking for work and refuse to assist those taking up positions in the ISP/NSP industry |
| 19:46.08 | Rescye | [AMSG] never mind |
| 19:46.26 | paulswm | Impl0z: Don't apologize! :) |
| 19:46.27 | jair_11 | squallbsr, hmm that is the worst tutorial, you should wait for me |
| 19:46.29 | Eulex | hmm, not anymore |
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| 19:46.45 | jair_11 | squallbsr, I will start installing mine in 1 hour from scratch |
| 19:46.54 | jair_11 | and I did it before it works |
| 19:46.56 | Impl0z | paulswm => why ? |
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| 19:47.00 | paulswm | kspath: Good for you, no point in helping the competition :) |
| 19:47.06 | jair_11 | squallbsr, it is the ISP style right? |
| 19:47.07 | squallbsr | jair_11: from source? Because I'm on a shared host virtual machine... |
| 19:47.14 | squallbsr | jair_11: yes, ISP style |
| 19:47.18 | jair_11 | squallbsr, I know |
| 19:47.29 | paulswm | Impl0z: becuase there's no need to :) |
| 19:47.32 | jair_11 | I check that one from howtoforge not good |
| 19:47.42 | takatumi | Impl0z: stop thinking, start forgetting. ;) |
| 19:47.48 | jair_11 | squallbsr, i can recommend you a better one |
| 19:47.50 | cr3 | how can I partition a FAT disk drive if I have a floppy drive? I know old versions of partition magic could do it, but that's proprietary software. |
| 19:47.52 | squallbsr | jair_11: I don't really *need* the quota stuff for right now, but it would be a nicety - you know... |
| 19:47.53 | jair_11 | for sure works nicely |
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| 19:48.01 | Impl0z | fuck! it's too difficult! |
| 19:48.02 | jair_11 | squallbsr, yes |
| 19:48.03 | kspath | accepting is the one true WAY |
| 19:48.04 | Impl0z | ^^ |
| 19:48.16 | squallbsr | jair_11: I guess I could install from scratch and start over if you have a better tutorial... |
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| 19:48.21 | Rescye | takatumi: Music Player says that the OSS device /dev/dsp is already in use |
| 19:48.45 | jair_11 | is is a guy in the #postfix channel call CrishH |
| 19:48.45 | pumpkin0 | Rescye: lsof | grep /dev/dsp |
| 19:48.59 | jair_11 | squallbsr, is is a guy in the #postfix channel call CrishH |
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| 19:49.09 | jair_11 | squallbsr, we will do it |
| 19:49.11 | britt | can anyone explain how split could be used to split tar archives into smaller files? all i get is aax files, which i dont believe tar could extract. |
| 19:49.12 | Rescye | takatumi: what do i do? |
| 19:49.19 | pumpkin0 | Rescye: "lsof | grep /dev/dsp" |
| 19:49.42 | paulswm | britt: Before extracting, you are supposed to cat the files back together into the one big one |
| 19:49.55 | takatumi | Rescye: I am not sure, I don't work with modular sound. |
| 19:50.05 | ViViD | if i upgrade mysql-server to mysql-server-5.0, will dpkg move my databases into the new server? |
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| 19:50.19 | britt | paulswm: so if the recipient machine is a windows box, then i'm out of luck? |
| 19:50.27 | Impl0z | ViViD => not sure... but i think no |
| 19:50.42 | Rescye | pumpkin0: esd 4104 navarr 5w CHR 14,3 5186 /dev/dsp |
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| 19:50.53 | takatumi | urgg esd |
| 19:51.01 | Rescye | what is esd? |
| 19:51.03 | paulswm | britt: No, you cat join the files together in Windows but I can't remember the command/utility |
| 19:51.06 | jelly | britt: those are just names, you have to concatenate them bach together afterwards. |
| 19:51.18 | Justin | paulswm: copy does it |
| 19:51.20 | britt | paulswm: hmm |
| 19:51.20 | pumpkin0 | Rescye: "apt-get remove esd" ... ? |
| 19:51.23 | paulswm | Ah |
| 19:51.33 | britt | paulswm: the DOS copy command? |
| 19:51.35 | paulswm | Justin: Shows how much I use Windows :P |
| 19:51.36 | kspath | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:51.40 | paulswm | britt: yes |
| 19:51.41 | jelly | britt: in dos/windows, use copy /b xaa+xab+xac .... destination-filename |
| 19:51.42 | britt | copy con.... |
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| 19:51.48 | Rescye | pumpkin0: couldn't find package esd |
| 19:52.05 | takatumi | keyhack: /msg dpkg mplayer license |
| 19:52.06 | narnar | i just installed proftpd, but non of my users can login into the ftp server |
| 19:52.10 | Justin | Rescye: esound |
| 19:52.15 | versuchsanstalt | Please give me advice on what printer model to buy. It should be a four-tank color inkjet with no extra gadgets, not too expensive and last but not least - there should be a decent driver. |
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| 19:52.40 | bcc | would it be faster to run sort or one file of 1G or or 10 files of 100M? |
| 19:52.40 | Rescye | Justin: do I want to do that? |
| 19:52.41 | kspath | epson is a decent company for driver support |
| 19:52.54 | Rescye | Justin: debian:/home/navarr# |
| 19:52.54 | britt | jelly: and in practice this doesnt result in corrupted files most of the time? |
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| 19:53.03 | jelly | britt: it works. |
| 19:53.07 | Rescye | Justin: esound gnome gnome-desktop-environment |
| 19:53.13 | versuchsanstalt | kspath: thanks for sharing your thoughts |
| 19:53.20 | britt | jelly: thanks |
| 19:53.30 | jair_11 | Justin, any suggestion? |
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| 19:53.38 | kspath | HP does ok as well |
| 19:53.41 | narnar | i just installed proftpd, but non of my users can login into the ftp server |
| 19:53.44 | britt | paulswm: thank you too. |
| 19:53.47 | britt | :) |
| 19:53.55 | versuchsanstalt | i will have a look at the suggestions at linuxprinting.org |
| 19:54.00 | britt | you made my life so much easier |
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| 19:54.01 | britt | :) |
| 19:54.06 | cheloo | back |
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| 19:54.14 | versuchsanstalt | but i'll appreciate any further comment |
| 19:54.16 | cheloo | same thing ...still slow |
| 19:54.17 | jelly | britt: well... actually it worked on win98 and I think it worked on 2000. I didn't try it on XP or 2003. |
| 19:54.20 | narnar | i just installed proftpd, but non of my users can login into the ftp server |
| 19:54.37 | cheloo | so you guys dont know why my box its so slow rgiht ? |
| 19:54.58 | takatumi | versuchsanstalt: recently bought an hp psc2353, works rather well, it's an all-in-one'r and it all works, haven't tried ocr though. |
| 19:55.09 | versuchsanstalt | narnar: have a look at the configuration file for proftpd |
| 19:55.29 | narnar | versuchsanstalt im there, what i should be looking for ? |
| 19:55.32 | jetscreamer | hp works well. linux.hp.com also, i think |
| 19:55.39 | kspath | versuchsanstalt: there is a lot of info out there but over time I have heard and seen support for Epson and HP there might be a few others |
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| 19:55.49 | ke6isf | cheloo: I haven't been keeping up, but how much RAM do you have, what kind of processor, and what flavor of Debian are you running? |
| 19:55.55 | versuchsanstalt | great, kspath |
| 19:56.28 | narnar | versuchsanstalt ? |
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| 19:56.51 | jetscreamer | cool, hp.com/linux/ redirects to the same page as linux.hp.com |
| 19:56.57 | drizzd | cheloo: have you checked DMA? |
| 19:57.04 | keyhack | Is there a package that will auto-mount my CDs/DVDs for me? |
| 19:57.05 | pipeline | jetscreamer: heh, HP's web site is scary as fuckall. |
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| 19:57.13 | pipeline | jetscreamer: mixture of ASP.NET, JSP, and ancient static pages. |
| 19:57.22 | versuchsanstalt | narnar: or maybe (as man proftpd suggests) the file /etc/ftpusers... ? |
| 19:57.23 | jetscreamer | keyhack: yes, but i don't know the name |
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| 19:57.44 | jetscreamer | pipeline: i see what you mean (sometimes) |
| 19:57.56 | cheloo | drizzd no |
| 19:58.06 | jetscreamer | doesn't come up real well in firefox though |
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| 19:58.34 | Rescye | got sound working, just kill the esd @.@ |
| 19:58.43 | pipeline | jetscreamer: It's not really their fault. It's just... big. |
| 19:58.49 | Thug-Girl | http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=pe&product=444645&dlc=es&docname=c00282850 |
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| 19:59.02 | jetscreamer | looks better in mozilla, but the toolbar up top is blanks |
| 19:59.09 | jetscreamer | so it's worse in moz |
| 19:59.09 | drizzd | cheloo: what does sudo hdparm /dev/hda say about using_dma? |
| 19:59.13 | keyhack | jetscreamer: mounttero? |
| 19:59.16 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: (as root) "cat /proc/ide/hda/settings | grep dma" |
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| 19:59.38 | keyhack | or autofs? |
| 19:59.51 | omerix | how can i see the hard disk usage in gnome* |
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| 19:59.54 | cheloo | drizzd bash: sudo: command not found |
| 19:59.55 | jetscreamer | keyhack: yeah autofs i think does it.. but i know nothing about it i don't use it |
| 20:00.00 | jetscreamer | apt-get install sudo |
| 20:00.09 | drizzd | cheloo: try what pumpkin0 said |
| 20:00.15 | cheloo | pumpkin0 using_dma 1 0 1 rw |
| 20:00.18 | jetscreamer | adduser user sudo then edit /etc/sudoers |
| 20:00.40 | cheloo | jetscreamer are you talking to me ? |
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| 20:00.52 | drizzd | cheloo: jetscreamer whats the sudo group for? |
| 20:00.55 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: that's OK. Now cat /proc/meminfo |
| 20:00.56 | jetscreamer | no my mouth is closed? (yes that was a joke) |
| 20:00.56 | buu | Hi guys, I'm having a bit of a strange problem. I have 10 sata drives plugged in to 5 sata raid cards. The cards aren't acting as raid controllers, they just let linux see the cards. I also have two other ide drives plugged in to the computer. The sixth card is a pci nic. Now I can boot up and see all 10 sata drives, access them and all that, and run mdadm --create; to start the raid creation. It goes off fine and runs for a while. However, at any |
| 20:01.23 | jetscreamer | cheloo: for sudo ? |
| 20:01.23 | blondie | buu... |
| 20:01.29 | jetscreamer | errr.. not cheloo |
| 20:01.37 | jetscreamer | drizzd: for dudo ? |
| 20:01.40 | takatumi | buu: at any... |
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| 20:01.49 | TGoC | Jelle klaasen sux ass!... friggin guy has beat raymond v. Barneveld |
| 20:01.51 | takatumi | dodo? |
| 20:02.00 | jetscreamer | sudo :( |
| 20:02.04 | takatumi | oh |
| 20:02.09 | buu | blondie: Er, where did it get cut off? |
| 20:02.13 | shadow98 | how can i search for what packages would find adodb |
| 20:02.16 | blondie | However, at any |
| 20:02.18 | cheloo | pumpkin0 http://pastebin.com/507153 |
| 20:02.29 | buu | However, at any point while it's running the "resynch" process, if I plug in a power cable, the system hard locks, every time. I'm wondering if maybe my power supply isn't adequate for this kind of load.. |
| 20:02.32 | jetscreamer | apt-cache search adodb |
| 20:02.33 | SerajewelKS | can i set my "realname" in irssi per chat server? the docs don't seem to help too much on this. |
| 20:02.38 | drizzd | jetscreamer, yeah, I wanted to know what the sudo group was for. |
| 20:02.54 | cheloo | ke6isf Pentium4 515 (P) 2.93 GHz: * 533 MHz Front side bus * Socket LGA775 * Chipset :Intel 915G |
| 20:02.59 | jetscreamer | drizzd: i never read about it, i just kinda figured it was for sudo |
| 20:03.04 | jetscreamer | sudo'ing |
| 20:03.10 | drizzd | ok |
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| 20:03.11 | cheloo | ke6isf Memory Installed 512 MB (2 x 256) |
| 20:03.24 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: looks good too. |
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| 20:03.41 | cheloo | ke6isf Hard drive * 160 GB SATA * 7200 rpm |
| 20:03.46 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: What programms are slow ? Only 3D ? |
| 20:03.48 | jetscreamer | damn now i have to find out drizzd damn you all to hell! (yajj, aka yet another jetjoke) |
| 20:03.49 | cheloo | pumpkin0 so whats the problem ? |
| 20:03.50 | PhoenixMan | Hi. I forgot the command which checks the disk status and what takes up a lot of space |
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| 20:04.00 | jetscreamer | du |
| 20:04.02 | cheloo | pumpkin0 no man everything |
| 20:04.07 | PhoenixMan | Thanks |
| 20:04.13 | loxley | PhoenixMan: df |
| 20:04.30 | PhoenixMan | Not df. |
| 20:04.34 | cheloo | pumpkin0 i look at the watch . and it takes 7 min to boot up my system |
| 20:04.36 | PhoenixMan | df displays a disk usage status |
| 20:04.45 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: Can you put /etc/X11/xorg.conf online ? |
| 20:04.49 | PhoenixMan | I want to see the top 10 files/directories which take up the most disk usage |
| 20:05.02 | cheloo | pumpkin0 well i can paste it on pastebin.com |
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| 20:05.07 | cheloo | pumpkin0 thats what you mean ? |
| 20:05.08 | [Elvis] | can anyone help me? I'm getting an make error doing cpan> install XML::Twig |
| 20:05.08 | pumpkin0 | PhoenixMan: du -hs ... ? |
| 20:05.13 | [Elvis] | can anyone help me? I'm getting an make error doing cpan> install XML::Twig |
| 20:05.14 | buu | blondie: any ideas? |
| 20:05.15 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: yes. |
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| 20:05.24 | [Elvis] | sorry for spam |
| 20:05.24 | Justin | PhoenixMan: du -ac / | sort -n |
| 20:05.46 | ke6isf | cheloo: I still don't know what flavor of Debian you are running. |
| 20:05.56 | PhoenixMan | Um. |
| 20:05.57 | blondie | buu: plug in a power cable to what? |
| 20:05.57 | PhoenixMan | Cereal? |
| 20:05.58 | jetscreamer | so how do you get less to not uncolorize the input |
| 20:06.02 | cheloo | pumpkin0 i have to wait now for konqueror it only takes about 2 min :) |
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| 20:06.18 | buu | blondie: Argh, not a power cable, a cat5 cord |
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| 20:06.53 | cheloo | pumpkin0 http://pastebin.com/507162 here |
| 20:06.58 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: while you are at it: "cat /proc/cpuinfo" |
| 20:07.03 | cjiph | is there a way to recursively list/remove currently installed packages on my Debian system which depend on packages which are not currently installed? |
| 20:07.11 | blondie | buu: does it do that if the cat5 cable is plugged in already? and what rating is the PSU? |
| 20:07.26 | shadow98 | anybody know where i can get media-libs for gd? |
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| 20:07.31 | pumpkin0 | cjiph: deborphan |
| 20:07.37 | cjiph | pumpkin0 thanks |
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| 20:07.57 | drizzd | Actually, I think apt makes sure you don't uninstall packages which others depend on |
| 20:07.59 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: AAHHhhh gotcha. You don't have a gfx-driver installed. |
| 20:08.01 | shadow98 | im trying to do a snort install |
| 20:08.02 | cheloo | pumpkin0 http://pastebin.com/507164 /proc/cpuinfo here |
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| 20:08.28 | shadow98 | since there isnt guide for debian...im following gentoo guide |
| 20:08.35 | cheloo | pumpkin0 ahh that will be nice to solve the problem |
| 20:08.37 | buu | blondie: The psu is 500w, if it's already plugged in it hard locks immediately. |
| 20:09.00 | blondie | buu: dunno, define hard locks - can you ping it? |
| 20:09.07 | ke6isf | shadow98: That's like reading the manual for a Volkswagen while working on a Honda. You're gonna get nowhere fast. |
| 20:09.10 | buu | blondie: .. No, har locked. No response. |
| 20:09.20 | buu | I can't even turn on scroll lock. |
| 20:09.22 | PhoenixMan | Is there a package or something |
| 20:09.23 | blondie | hm |
| 20:09.24 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: What gfx-card do you have ? |
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| 20:09.39 | PhoenixMan | Which allows me to see accurate status of the HD and what drains so much of it's space? |
| 20:09.39 | blondie | sounds like a hardware or driver/kernel issue |
| 20:09.45 | cheloo | pumpkin0 http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=pe&product=444645&dlc=es&docname=c00282850 |
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| 20:10.03 | cheloo | pumpkin0 there you have my machine details |
| 20:10.03 | shadow98 | well i cant find one for debian...i cant believe there isnt one |
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| 20:10.32 | Justin | cheloo: what does hdparm -tT /dev/hda output? |
| 20:10.39 | kspath_ | shawdow98: so you are writing one now? |
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| 20:10.53 | shadow98 | would like to |
| 20:11.03 | cheloo | Justin /dev/hda: |
| 20:11.18 | shadow98 | but i need to know where i can get gd? |
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| 20:12.11 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: hmmm.. now you need to find somebody how is at home with intel-onBoard-gfx-cards. I never had to setup such a gfx-card. |
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| 20:12.35 | Justin | pumpkin0: the video card is not the problem |
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| 20:13.09 | cheloo | Justin what then ? |
| 20:13.14 | Justin | cheloo: what does hdparm -tT /dev/hda output? |
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| 20:13.54 | pumpkin0 | Justin: dma is OK, meminfo shows 200MB free, cpuinfo is cool. But the gfx-driver is vesa |
| 20:14.02 | Justin | pumpkin0: so? |
| 20:14.16 | blondie | buu: can you try a different NIC? |
| 20:14.30 | buu | blondie: not really.. |
| 20:15.02 | cheloo | Justin /dev/hda: * Timing cached reads: 3092 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1546.24 MB/sec * Timing buffered disk reads: 10 MB in 3.24 seconds = 3.08 MB/sec * output: No such file or directory |
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| 20:15.15 | Justin | cheloo: well, theres your problem |
| 20:15.36 | shadow98 | i dont see any of these packages jpeg, gd, zlib. |
| 20:15.41 | cheloo | Justin what ? because i have other 3 hard disks ? |
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| 20:15.55 | Justin | cheloo: what hard disk are you booting linux off of? |
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| 20:16.16 | shadow98 | any ideas |
| 20:16.22 | cheloo | Justin well from a scsi one |
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| 20:16.29 | cheloo | Justin hold on |
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| 20:16.38 | EdLin | !any ideas? |
| 20:16.39 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a bag full of herring, a little vegemite, and 5 or 6 starving hamsters. And keep the KGB off my back for the next few hours! |
| 20:17.15 | kastyr | Hello. Stupid connection problems. >.< |
| 20:17.22 | ryanium | abrotman, |
| 20:17.26 | ryanium | abrotman, see ya colts, lol |
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| 20:17.42 | cheloo | Justin /dev/hda iths my dvd rom |
| 20:17.59 | mauricio | hi, does anybody knows why /dev/dsp can dessapear? |
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| 20:18.16 | pumpkin0 | mauricio: unloaded the sound-driver ? installed udev ? |
| 20:18.20 | cheloo | Justin can you join #flood i would like to paste 4 lines there for you |
| 20:18.22 | keyhack | How can I find out what hd? my DVDrom drive is? |
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| 20:18.49 | kastyr | I need this laptop to run dhclient correctly on startup. With it set up to dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces, the dhclient doesn't run until just before it actually initializes the interfaces. |
| 20:18.50 | cheloo | pumpkin0 i tryed also ! i810 " same thing |
| 20:18.58 | cheloo | pumpkin0 should i try vga ? |
| 20:19.19 | Justin | kastyr: and this is problem why? |
| 20:19.20 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: no. run "mount" to find your boot-disc |
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| 20:19.35 | Justin | cheloo: hdparm -tT /dev/sdg then |
| 20:19.42 | Justin | cheloo: er, hdg |
| 20:19.55 | mauricio | pumpkin0, udev is installed ... |
| 20:19.57 | Justin | cheloo: and since it is hdg, it is not likely a scsi drive |
| 20:20.11 | kastyr | Justin: Because eth0 esentially doesn't exist until right after dhclient runs on boot. |
| 20:20.18 | Justin | kastyr: so? |
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| 20:20.20 | pumpkin0 | mauricio: look for /dev/sound/dsp. |
| 20:21.01 | kastyr | Justin: So dhclient will not automatically run, and my mother with arthritis will be forced to open a terminal, get root access, and type in dhclient. |
| 20:21.04 | pumpkin0 | mauricio: and link that dsp to /dev/dsp |
| 20:21.04 | cheloo | Justin /dev/hdg: * Timing cached reads: 2988 MB in 2.00 seconds = 1493.48 MB/sec * Timing buffered disk reads: 4 MB in 5.60 seconds = 731.80 kB/sec |
| 20:21.27 | mauricio | pumpkin0, /dev/sound/ doen't exist ... |
| 20:21.34 | Justin | kastyr: you just said dhclient starts on boot, now you are saying it doesn't? |
| 20:21.48 | pumpkin0 | mauricio: are you sure your sound-modules are loaded ? |
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| 20:21.53 | Justin | cheloo: then that definitely is your problem |
| 20:22.03 | keyhack | I cannot get xine to play DVDs, although I installed libdvdread3, I'm seeing this error "libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable" |
| 20:22.06 | kastyr | Justin: It does. It does before the pcmcia services detect the ethernet card. So it doesn't actually WORK. |
| 20:22.12 | cheloo | Justin what ? |
| 20:22.23 | Justin | cheloo: your hard drive can only do 700k/s |
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| 20:22.39 | cheloo | Justin but it only happends in debian ? |
| 20:22.42 | Justin | kastyr: don't put auto in /etc/network/interfaces, the pcmcia stuff will bring up the interface for you |
| 20:22.57 | cheloo | Justin i hade centos , fedora and mandrivia installed " no problem " |
| 20:23.06 | clearscreen | hmmmmm I accidentally closed my system tray in debian :/ and I cant make it come back by rightclicking on my taskbar and pressing the "Add to taskbar" options |
| 20:23.06 | Justin | cheloo: what kernel are you using? |
| 20:23.06 | keyhack | Is there another package on top of libdvdread3 that I need to install? |
| 20:23.07 | clearscreen | help :P |
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| 20:23.28 | cheloo | Justin hell yeah i think before i installed this kernel i have the problem :) |
| 20:23.30 | kastyr | Justin: Okay. So should I remove the entire entry? |
| 20:23.32 | phaedra | keyhack, try libdvdcss |
| 20:23.37 | cheloo | Justin 2.6.8-2-386 |
| 20:23.40 | Justin | kastyr: no, just remove the word auto |
| 20:23.52 | keyhack | phaedra: Thats not a real package |
| 20:23.54 | mauricio | pumpkin0, yeah |
| 20:23.55 | Justin | cheloo: is this computer a 386? |
| 20:24.01 | cheloo | Justin i update to this one because 2.4 could read my scsi and sata disk |
| 20:24.03 | jetscreamer | libdvdcss2 is.. and 3 |
| 20:24.16 | keyhack | "apt-cache search libdvdcss" shows none of those packages |
| 20:24.18 | jetscreamer | and is on marillat probably |
| 20:24.22 | keyhack | you see ogle, and libdvdread3 |
| 20:24.31 | jetscreamer | !tell keyhack -about marillat |
| 20:24.33 | kastyr | Justin: And keep the 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'? |
| 20:24.35 | mauricio | pumpkin0, i got snd-mixer-oss and sndpcm-oss unloaded |
| 20:24.37 | Justin | kastyr: yep |
| 20:24.38 | clearscreen | hmmmmm I accidentally closed my system tray in debian :/ and I cant make it come back by rightclicking on my taskbar and pressing the "Add to taskbar" options |
| 20:24.38 | clearscreen | :( |
| 20:24.42 | jair_11 | Justin, ? |
| 20:24.46 | Justin | jair_11: ? |
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| 20:24.48 | kastyr | Justin: And dhclient should now work? |
| 20:24.49 | mauricio | s/sndpcm/snd-pcm |
| 20:24.49 | cheloo | Justin have a look here please http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/document?lc=en&cc=pe&product=444645&dlc=es&docname=c00282850 |
| 20:24.50 | [Elvis] | how do I install qmake ? |
| 20:24.54 | pumpkin0 | mauricio: well, load them again. |
| 20:24.57 | GyrosGeier | hi |
| 20:25.02 | Justin | cheloo: that was a retorical question |
| 20:25.05 | kastyr | Justin: In the sense I am needing it to, that is. |
| 20:25.09 | jetscreamer | clearscreen: it's not 'debian' but 'gnome' or 'kde' or whatever |
| 20:25.16 | jair_11 | did you check my pastebin files |
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| 20:25.23 | clearscreen | yes sorry |
| 20:25.24 | clearscreen | gnome |
| 20:25.24 | jair_11 | Justin, I can not get the files |
| 20:25.24 | Justin | kastyr: yep, should, try it and see |
| 20:25.30 | Justin | jair_11: what files are the files |
| 20:25.37 | jair_11 | Justin, can you paste the configuration of your backports |
| 20:25.39 | cheloo | Justin dont know what t answer, thats why i said it might be better if you look there |
| 20:25.43 | kastyr | Justin: Okay. If you don't see me again, thanks a million. =) Otherwise, I'll brb. |
| 20:25.44 | jair_11 | Justin, one sec |
| 20:25.50 | GyrosGeier | I'm trying to coerce a HP ScanJet 2300c into submission. Does anyone have any experience with those devices? |
| 20:25.59 | Justin | jair_11: I don't use any of them |
| 20:26.03 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: install a kernel for -586 or -686 |
| 20:26.06 | clearscreen | oh nvmd its back :P |
| 20:26.09 | Justin | jair_11: well, I think I do on one computer, but I forget which one |
| 20:26.12 | jair_11 | so hmm |
| 20:26.17 | jair_11 | ohh ok |
| 20:26.22 | jair_11 | but it is not working though |
| 20:26.23 | cheloo | pumpkin0 you thing that might solve my problem ? |
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| 20:26.53 | Justin | jair_11: why not |
| 20:26.59 | kspath | anyone here work with/for India Business MAchines? |
| 20:27.03 | pumpkin0 | cheloo: Let's hope so. It will not make it worse. |
| 20:27.08 | jair_11 | let me paste it please: |
| 20:27.36 | Justin | cheloo: if not, you can get an even newer kernel from backports.org, or compile your own... though that will probably take forever on your system right now |
| 20:27.36 | jair_11 | Justin, http://pastebin.com/507113 |
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| 20:27.48 | [Siv0x] | can anyone help me, my sound isn't working.. |
| 20:27.48 | jetscreamer | GyrosGeier: do you have that hp scanner proggie installed? |
| 20:28.07 | jair_11 | Justin, http://pastebin.com/507118 |
| 20:28.13 | GyrosGeier | jetscreamer: no, SANE |
| 20:28.13 | cheloo | Justin kernel-image-2.6.8-2-686 i will try this via apt |
| 20:28.19 | jair_11 | Justin, that is how I have it configured |
| 20:28.19 | jetscreamer | !tell [Siv0x] -about sound |
| 20:28.25 | GyrosGeier | jetscreamer: is there a special tool? |
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| 20:28.43 | Swoosher | hello |
| 20:28.46 | Justin | jair_11: and? |
| 20:29.03 | jetscreamer | GyrosGeier: yeah hp has some out.. it's in sources. hpl-something for scanners... hp.com/linux |
| 20:29.10 | jair_11 | Justin, but I am getting this error message when I try to install openoffice.org -> http://pastebin.com/507195 |
| 20:29.12 | cheloo | Justin whats the newer kernel what version ? |
| 20:29.21 | jetscreamer | hplij ? |
| 20:29.22 | jair_11 | Justin, do that look ok??? to you?? |
| 20:29.29 | jetscreamer | !find hpl |
| 20:29.30 | dpkg | Debian Package Listing of 'hpl' (8): egroupware-phpldapadmin ;; flashplugin-nonfree ;; hplip ;; hplip-data ;; hplip-ppds ;; libphp-phplayersmenu ;; libphp-phplot ;; phpldapadmin. |
| 20:29.37 | cheloo | Justin kernel-package_10.030bpo1_all.deb this one ? |
| 20:29.40 | jetscreamer | !info hplip |
| 20:29.42 | dpkg | hplip: (HP Linux Printing and Imaging System (HPLIP)), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.9.7-4 (sid), Packaged size: 449 kB, Installed size: 1840 kB |
| 20:29.49 | GyrosGeier | w00t |
| 20:29.59 | Swoosher | I have a question about the debian install |
| 20:30.14 | yang | Is there a website application, that would work like ebay site, for private auctions? |
| 20:30.18 | Justin | cheloo: huh? |
| 20:30.40 | jetscreamer | GyrosGeier: i can't help you get it going, i've just used the hpoj package for officejet printers |
| 20:30.45 | jetscreamer | g'luck |
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| 20:30.55 | GyrosGeier | jetscreamer, thanks a lot still |
| 20:30.57 | Justin | jair_11: see http://backports.org/instructions.html .. |
| 20:31.03 | Justin | jair_11: " Another way is to skip the second entry in /etc/apt/preferences and to use" |
| 20:31.06 | Justin | jair_11: do that |
| 20:31.09 | cheloo | Justin kernel-image-2.6-686 its the only one i can find on backports.org, |
| 20:31.11 | manu | audio play does not work in open office |
| 20:31.21 | cheloo | Justin i mean only 2.6 version |
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| 20:31.46 | Justin | cheloo: look under l |
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| 20:32.20 | opnsrc | If I type sudo synaptic it says "opnsrc is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported." (so basically it threatened to report me to myself) |
| 20:32.25 | davor | hey, guys. im having a slight problem |
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| 20:32.32 | cheloo | Justin i have backports.org, on sorce.list for apt and i search for it |
| 20:32.47 | davor | i need to install python-dev. but when i do that i get this error message: python-dev: Depends: python2.3-dev (>= 2.3.4-18) but it is not going to be installed |
| 20:32.50 | Justin | cheloo: it is listed as 'linux' not 'kernel' |
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| 20:33.03 | opnsrc | I added opnsrc to the sudo group, how do I fix it so it won't do this |
| 20:33.14 | opnsrc | (and where do i find these reports)? |
| 20:33.17 | cheloo | Justin ohh linux-headers-2.6.15-1-686 :) |
| 20:33.22 | Justin | cheloo: no, not headers |
| 20:33.22 | davor | any idea of what i can do? |
| 20:33.38 | Justin | davor: install python2.3-dev |
| 20:33.55 | ansong2 | Justin, regarding backports.org, i'm using the method that doesn't require me to pin individual packages (the one you just recommended to jair_11) however, i'm having problems installing java, which apparently openoffice.org-base requires. do you know how i can resolve this? |
| 20:34.01 | keyhack | Does anyone know why totem would disable the audio volume controller? I know the volume works |
| 20:34.05 | Justin | ansong2: nope |
| 20:34.07 | davor | Justin: i tried that. but then i get: python2.3-dev: Depends: python2.3 (= 2.3.5-3sarge1) but 2.3.5-9 is to be installed |
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| 20:34.14 | cheloo | Justin i cannot find any 2.6.15 except headers |
| 20:34.16 | [Elvis] | can someone tell me in what package I can find -lqt-mt ? |
| 20:34.17 | jair_11 | Justin, on so then I will remove that "preferences" file and just add the deb ... and then run the command apt-get -t .... |
| 20:34.20 | Justin | davor: where did you install python from |
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| 20:34.41 | davor | Justin: not sure. i think that i just used apt-get |
| 20:34.47 | jair_11 | ansong2, I think you just need to install the java separate :) |
| 20:34.49 | Justin | cheloo: apt-cache search linux-image | grep 15 |
| 20:34.51 | [Elvis] | can someone tell me in what package I can find -lqt-mt ? ? |
| 20:35.07 | merlin65537 | Elvis: libqt3-mt-dev |
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| 20:35.11 | jair_11 | ansong2, I have java installed on my mahcine since couple of months ago, so I should not need java again |
| 20:35.33 | jair_11 | ansong2, can you paste your configuration in the pastebin.com |
| 20:35.44 | merlin65537 | Elvis: if you are trying to compile a qt-program |
| 20:35.52 | jair_11 | ansong2, so I can do the same and if you need help with the java installation I can help you |
| 20:35.58 | ansong2 | jair_11, just a second |
| 20:36.36 | [Elvis] | yeah merlin65537 thanks |
| 20:36.47 | cheloo | Justin thank you |
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| 20:36.57 | ansong2 | dammit, putty died |
| 20:36.59 | merlin65537 | Elvis: no problem. just do apt-cache search qt-mt to find it |
| 20:37.06 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:37.13 | [Elvis] | yeah I tried -lqt-mt |
| 20:37.15 | [Elvis] | which didn't work |
| 20:37.15 | [Elvis] | :P |
| 20:37.39 | merlin65537 | Elvis: I guess the -l is just a parameter for gcc telling it to use the qt-library |
| 20:37.52 | cheloo | Justin so upgrade the kernel its my last change of keeping debian installed :( |
| 20:37.54 | [Elvis] | probably |
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| 20:38.31 | jair_11 | ansong2, ok |
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| 20:39.12 | [Siv0x] | ok, were do i un-mute my volume? (after i have alsa installed and configured) ? |
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| 20:39.47 | Justin | cheloo: the kernel is the only thing that would be different enough between the other distros to make your hard drive perform this badly |
| 20:39.58 | strfryed | what is the best approach if there is a broken dependency in the package list that is on the server I am using, but I can see that the dep has been fixed in unstable? Should i just dl that pkg and dpkg -i it? |
| 20:40.12 | takatumi | [Siv0x]: install alsa-utils, run alsamixer |
| 20:40.13 | jair_11 | ansong2, ok ?? |
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| 20:40.23 | cheloo | Justin ok i would be happy to keep my debian system |
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| 20:40.32 | atropin | hi |
| 20:40.40 | cheloo | Justin and also i would like to say thank you for help... |
| 20:40.53 | [Siv0x] | k |
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| 20:41.06 | Justin | cheloo: haven't fixed the problem yet :-P |
| 20:41.08 | ansong2 | jair_11, http://pastebin.com/507205 then i try to install openoffice.org-base and get http://pastebin.com/507208 |
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| 20:41.27 | cheloo | Justin hell yeah :) |
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| 20:41.36 | BLAZER | hey |
| 20:41.54 | usn | hi folx |
| 20:42.13 | cheloo | Justin right done new kernel installed, im going to reboot now |
| 20:42.39 | Justin | cheloo: hopefully it detects the drives in the right order :) |
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| 20:42.45 | [Siv0x] | takatumi: ok, i did, but i'm still not getting any sound.. |
| 20:42.55 | cheloo | Justin ok |
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| 20:43.15 | takatumi | [Siv0x]: hit 'm' to unmute |
| 20:43.36 | cheloo | Justin so i shouldnt run the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to load a diff. driver for my video hardware ? |
| 20:43.53 | Justin | cheloo: the hard drive being slow is your first problem |
| 20:43.58 | cheloo | ok |
| 20:44.01 | cheloo | brb then |
| 20:44.07 | [Siv0x] | still no sound ;\ |
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| 20:44.36 | ansong | jair_11, i have installed java-package, but apparently it does nothing. |
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| 20:44.53 | Justin | ansong: java-package turns the .bin file you get from sun into a .deb... |
| 20:45.00 | opnsrc | how do I make it so I can use sudo in another account? |
| 20:45.09 | [Siv0x] | k, got it |
| 20:45.10 | [Siv0x] | lol |
| 20:45.12 | Justin | opnsrc: fix /etc/sudoers |
| 20:45.13 | [Siv0x] | thxc |
| 20:45.15 | opnsrc | I added it to the group sudo and it says something like, it's going to report me |
| 20:45.15 | [Siv0x] | thx |
| 20:45.16 | ansong | Justin, ah nifty |
| 20:45.22 | opnsrc | thanks |
| 20:46.20 | clearscreen | exit |
| 20:46.23 | clearscreen | oops |
| 20:46.27 | Justin | opnsrc: who said ading a user to the sudo group was how you fix that problem? |
| 20:46.43 | jair_11 | ansong, I actually have java already installed and I could not installed either |
| 20:46.55 | jair_11 | ansong, I am in the exact same situation than you |
| 20:47.16 | ansong | jair_11, but does apt/dpkg know about it |
| 20:47.26 | pipeline | Is linux HFS+ support good enough to do read and write? |
| 20:47.49 | Justin | pipeline: are you asking this because you have an hfs+ ipod or a mac? |
| 20:47.53 | ansong | jair_11, i'm d/l the .bin from sun now. i'll try to convert it to .deb via java-package (thx justin) and try again |
| 20:47.55 | randomity | How many of the etch discs do I need to make a bootable system (text mode is fine)? |
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| 20:48.00 | jair_11 | ansong, http://pastebin.com/507225 |
| 20:48.02 | bobbens | pipeline: i've never had trouble with it when i was working with a friends external hdd |
| 20:48.32 | ansong | randomity, get the netinstaller. one ~100MB disk'll do ya |
| 20:49.08 | randomity | ansong, this machine is offline. How many of the iso images will i need to boot it? |
| 20:49.10 | pipeline | Justin: No, just an external hard drive. |
| 20:49.13 | jair_11 | ansong, please keep me up to date, what exactly you will do with the java? |
| 20:49.24 | pipeline | bobbens: both read and write, or just read access? :P |
| 20:49.39 | ansong | jair_11, sure, i'll even let you know if it works ;) |
| 20:50.00 | bobbens | pipeline: read/write |
| 20:50.10 | jair_11 | ansong, ok |
| 20:50.11 | ootput | mplayer via nerim requires libpolyp? |
| 20:50.31 | pipeline | bobbens: Cool, cool. Thanks. |
| 20:50.43 | ansong | randomity, hrm. i haven't had to do that since long before sarge came out. i've got no idea |
| 20:51.03 | [Siv0x] | Is there any way i can install limewire into linux? |
| 20:51.09 | takatumi | randomity: CD1 should be enough for now. |
| 20:51.10 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: yeah, apt-get install limewire |
| 20:51.14 | ansong | randomity, i'd guess just the first one. b |
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| 20:51.18 | TGoC | How do i create ca.cert for apache 2 on debian trough openssl? anyone? |
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| 20:51.32 | randomity | ansong, takatumi, thanks |
| 20:51.36 | [Siv0x] | root@debian:/home/charlie# apt-get install limewire |
| 20:51.36 | [Siv0x] | Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:51.36 | [Siv0x] | Building dependency tree... Done |
| 20:51.37 | [Siv0x] | E: Couldn't find package limewire |
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| 20:51.49 | cheloo | justin same thing :( |
| 20:52.01 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: Hmm, looks like I was wrong. There used to be a packaged limewire. Ah well. |
| 20:52.02 | takatumi | [Siv0x]: /msg dpkg search |
| 20:52.04 | Justin | cheloo: upload your dmesg to pastebin |
| 20:52.07 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: In any case, you'll need java to use limewire. |
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| 20:52.18 | TGoC | [Siv0x] try apt-cache search limewire |
| 20:52.22 | [Siv0x] | k |
| 20:52.29 | TGoC | How do i create ca.cert for apache 2 on debian trough openssl? anyone? |
| 20:52.34 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: Honestly, though, limewire kinda sucks. You would probably be better off with gtk-gnutella or amule |
| 20:52.43 | takatumi | gift |
| 20:52.43 | pipeline | TGoC: Gah, read the fine manuals on the subject. |
| 20:52.52 | pipeline | takatumi: gift is a different network. |
| 20:52.57 | TGoC | can't find it in the howto pipeline |
| 20:53.00 | pipeline | takatumi: limewire is a KAD + gnutela client, IIRC. |
| 20:53.05 | pipeline | TGoC: There's other documentation out there, bud. |
| 20:53.06 | ansong | justin, there's no manpage for java-package... and apparently it's not an executable either. could you spare me a google? |
| 20:53.07 | [Siv0x] | pipeline: as long as i can get music, i don't care what i have.. |
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| 20:53.33 | narnar | I just installed vsftpd, and in the config file i removed any anon access and put local user access only....but still cant login to the ftp with my user |
| 20:53.35 | pipeline | Justin, ansong : "java-package" is the name of the package. The executable is "make-jpkg" or something. |
| 20:53.45 | keyhack | Does anyone know if its possible to start totem in the full screen mode? |
| 20:53.54 | ansong | pipeline, thanks |
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| 20:54.15 | Justin | keyhack: totem --help |
| 20:55.03 | randomity | keyhack, totem --fullscreen |
| 20:55.10 | cheloo | justin http://pastebin.com/507242 |
| 20:55.33 | keyhack | yeah, that doesn't work |
| 20:55.38 | keyhack | I'm not running Gnome, I think thats why :-\ |
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| 20:55.43 | keyhack | I don't have a window manager running |
| 20:55.53 | nite613_ | I'm getting "Host **** not allowed to connect". I'm using the root account just to test, and I have a root entry, with a passwor dand with * in the host field. Is there something else I need? |
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| 20:55.59 | opnsrc | Ok, I opened gedit sudoers , what should I put? |
| 20:56.09 | [Siv0x] | pipeline: ok now i can't get gtk-gnutella to run.. |
| 20:56.11 | nite613_ | Does debian default to starting mysql in local only or something? |
| 20:56.17 | randomity | opnsrc, what are you trying to do |
| 20:56.18 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: Well, that's pretty vague. |
| 20:56.18 | keyhack | Do I need atleast like blackbox or something? |
| 20:56.25 | pipeline | keyhack: I would just use mplayer. |
| 20:56.35 | keyhack | pipeline: mplayer doesn't have DVD menu support |
| 20:56.35 | [Siv0x] | pipeline: it won't open.. |
| 20:56.38 | pipeline | keyhack: the --fullscreen option is really meant to be used with an existing instance of totem. |
| 20:56.42 | opnsrc | I want the account opnsrc to be able to use sudo |
| 20:56.46 | pipeline | [Siv0x]: You're going to have to be more specific than that, too. |
| 20:56.51 | Justin | cheloo: why aren't you using the correct cables for your hard drives? |
| 20:57.12 | keyhack | pipeline: Yeah, and I press "f" while its playing and it doesnt fullscreen, not to mention I cannot change the volume (its disabled and no sound plays) |
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| 20:57.15 | narnar | I just installed vsftpd, and in the config file i removed any anon access and put local user access only....but still cant login to the ftp with my user |
| 20:57.16 | cheloo | Justin what do you mean im not |
| 20:57.30 | cheloo | Justin it did work on all other systems |
| 20:57.41 | Justin | cheloo: Warning: Secondary channel requires an 80-pin cable for operation. |
| 20:57.46 | Justin | cheloo: hdg reduced to Ultra33 mode. |
| 20:58.02 | opnsrc | (after asking for a pw). currently it threatens to report me or something |
| 20:58.04 | cheloo | Justin so you thing this is the problem ? |
| 20:58.16 | Justin | cheloo: it is A problem |
| 20:58.38 | cheloo | Justin i will swap the cable with a other one from the other hard disk |
| 20:58.38 | jair_11 | ansong, I see you are getitng close :) |
| 20:58.45 | jair_11 | ansong, I am following you |
| 20:58.48 | cheloo | Justin so that the one i boot from has a diff cable |
| 20:58.57 | Justin | cheloo: do you know what an 80pin cable is? |
| 20:58.59 | narnar | I just installed vsftpd, and in the config file i removed any anon access and put local user access only....but still cant login to the ftp with my user |
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| 20:59.25 | pipeline | keyhack: Your window manager isn't going to determine whether or not totem can go fullscreen, I can tell you that much. :P |
| 20:59.50 | cheloo | Justin i just want to ask you that all my hard disk cable are the same |
| 20:59.51 | ansong | jair_11, ??? |
| 20:59.57 | cheloo | Justin except the sata one |
| 21:00.08 | Justin | cheloo: and they aren't 80 pin cables, are they? |
| 21:00.37 | jair_11 | ansong, I mean I am follwoing you with the set up of the backports and the open office. |
| 21:00.56 | opnsrc | I'm trying to read http://www.courtesan.com/sudo/man/sudoers.html but it's not of much help |
| 21:01.27 | opnsrc | It says something about sudoedit. what can I type in google to get these questions answered? |
| 21:01.34 | Justin | opnsrc: just edit /etc/sudoers, add your user there, or figure out what group it is actually using and add your user to it |
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| 21:02.05 | narnar | I just installed vsftpd, and in the config file i removed any anon access and put local user access only....but still cant login to the ftp with my user |
| 21:02.11 | Justin | narnar: why not? |
| 21:02.16 | narnar | i have no idea |
| 21:02.26 | Justin | narnar: did you read the vsftp logs? |
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| 21:02.39 | keyhack | pipeline: Well, I installed mplayer, I can get it to go fullscreen, but it doesn't stretch to take up the screen |
| 21:02.40 | narnar | yes, just saying fail login from user |
| 21:02.50 | opnsrc | my user is opnsrc. Do I just type in the name of my user in it and that's it? |
| 21:02.57 | Justin | opnsrc: no |
| 21:03.08 | mfrisch | keyhack: you want to change zoom |
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| 21:03.20 | Justin | mfrisch: no, he wants to use xv and not x11 for output |
| 21:03.22 | narnar | Justin: 500 OOPS: could not open chroot() list file:/etc/vsftpd.chroot_list |
| 21:03.28 | pipeline | keyhack: that's a command line option. --stretch or something. |
| 21:03.37 | keyhack | I have an awesome graphics card in there, so it should use the hardware support, I thought I read... |
| 21:03.43 | Justin | narnar: sounds like you configured it wrong |
| 21:03.50 | Justin | keyhack: did you tell it to? |
| 21:03.52 | mfrisch | Justin ok |
| 21:03.53 | narnar | Justin please help me get it done |
| 21:03.57 | opnsrc | well, I type opnsrc sudoedit or something |
| 21:04.00 | opnsrc | or just opnsrc sudo |
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| 21:04.28 | keyhack | Justin: How do I do that? |
| 21:04.30 | ansong | jair_11, ok. this is what to do: go to java.sun.com & grab the latest jre, make sure you download the .bin, not the .rpm. apt-get install java-package, and as Non-Root user run: fakeroot make-jpkg /path/to/jre*.bin this'll make the .bin into a .deb, after that install as root via dpkg -i sun-j2re_yaddayadda.deb after that you get http://pastebin.com/507251 |
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| 21:05.08 | keyhack | well, now mplayer is crashing, saying "Couldn't open /dev/3dfx" |
| 21:05.15 | Justin | keyhack: /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf, replace x11 with xv |
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| 21:05.40 | pipeline | keyhack: Just read the damn man page :P |
| 21:05.55 | opnsrc | ok I put opnsrc ALL=(ALL) ALL it seems to work |
| 21:06.02 | mfrisch | do you guys know...is there a amd-64 mplayer .deb? |
| 21:06.04 | ansong | jair_11, you get that? |
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| 21:06.12 | opnsrc | but I still have to run su to type in synaptic and have it run |
| 21:06.23 | clearscreen | hmmmm I need help on this.. I did fdisk -l.. it showed /dev/hdc1 (it's an ntfs partition).. then I tried mounting it through fstab, but it said special device /dev/hdc1 does not exist |
| 21:06.54 | Justin | opnsrc: sudo synaptic |
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| 21:07.13 | opnsrc | it says command not found |
| 21:07.18 | ansong | oh dear god, backports.org is in serious bandwidth distress |
| 21:07.21 | Justin | opnsrc: it says what? |
| 21:07.24 | randomity | opnsrc, sudo /usr/sbin/synaptic |
| 21:07.36 | randomity | opnsrc, or set your $PATH |
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| 21:08.18 | Justin | randomity: sudo usually adjusts the path itself |
| 21:08.38 | opnsrc | Well it works fine if I type su first |
| 21:08.39 | keyhack | frig, why won't the sound work |
| 21:08.39 | opnsrc | K thanks |
| 21:08.57 | ryanium | abrotman, ARE YOU WATCHING THIS LOL |
| 21:08.58 | Trigger13 | does anyone know anything when we can hope for thunderbird 1.5 in sid? |
| 21:09.01 | randomity | Justin, not always. I think it depends on some option in /etc/sudoers |
| 21:09.15 | keyhack | ah, "alsa-init: playback open error: Device or resource busy" |
| 21:09.25 | Justin | randomity: my sudoers has 1 line in it... |
| 21:09.28 | Shadda | sigh...why is this so ridiculously difficult |
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| 21:09.46 | kspath | !abrotmansmite ryanium |
| 21:09.48 | Shadda | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:09.56 | ryanium | huh |
| 21:09.57 | Justin | (%:~)- ifconfig -> command not found. (%:~)- sudo ifconfig -> works fine |
| 21:09.58 | ryanium | lol |
| 21:09.59 | cugar21itc | holas |
| 21:10.03 | cheloo | justin i swap the cables and it boot`s a bit faster now . but still, |
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| 21:10.17 | randomity | Justin, I don't know. All I know is that Mandriva sudo sets the PATH, but SuSE 10 sudo doesn't. I'm not sure where the option is |
| 21:10.20 | Justin | cheloo: if you swap one wrong cable with another wrong cable it isn't going to get any faster |
| 21:10.38 | cheloo | justin i dont really think its the cable because i was using the same cable in suse fedora and all other systems i tryed |
| 21:10.48 | cheloo | justin at least i try it :) |
| 21:10.49 | Justin | cheloo: and those were installed on the SAME DRIVE? |
| 21:10.54 | cheloo | yes |
| 21:10.59 | Justin | cheloo: in this same system? |
| 21:11.06 | cheloo | same driver because the other are full with stuff |
| 21:11.13 | cheloo | this is only 8 gb drive |
| 21:11.33 | cheloo | so i can format it quick everytime :) |
| 21:11.34 | Justin | cheloo: yes, like before how you said you had a 180G sata drive |
| 21:11.42 | Justin | cheloo: you keep saying different things |
| 21:11.51 | opnsrc | $PATH /usr/sbin/ |
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| 21:12.17 | cheloo | no man the hard disk its 8 gb the 160 Gb its the one they gave my when i buy my box |
| 21:12.22 | jair_11 | ansong, nice |
| 21:12.34 | ansong | jair_11, that work for you too? |
| 21:12.43 | jair_11 | ansong, It is very slow then to get the packages but I hope it is worht |
| 21:12.49 | jair_11 | ansong, I will do it right noiw |
| 21:12.50 | jair_11 | now |
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| 21:13.15 | cheloo | justin the link i give you with the details of my computer it says 160 Gb that was the hard they give me . but it not master now ;) |
| 21:13.56 | Justin | cheloo: yes I know, you took a nice fast computer, and put in a shitty drive with the wrong cables... |
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| 21:14.00 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:14.21 | jair_11 | ansong, ok I will go to the java site. |
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| 21:14.26 | cheloo | Justin :( |
| 21:14.45 | cheloo | Justin but it did work untill i put debian man and i really want to keep it |
| 21:14.53 | Justin | cheloo: what does uname -r say? |
| 21:14.59 | ansong | 8% [15 openoffice.org-common 3828719/24.8MB 15%] 16.1kB/s 1h23m2s |
| 21:14.59 | ansong | jair_11, i'm downloading from backports at ~20kB/s, i usually go around 20-30x faster. it'll be over 1.5 hrs before it's down |
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| 21:15.11 | ansong | sorry, wtf was that? |
| 21:15.13 | cheloo | Justin new kernel its here 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 21:15.22 | Justin | cheloo: uname -r says that? |
| 21:15.26 | cheloo | yes |
| 21:15.31 | cheloo | uname -r |
| 21:15.32 | cheloo | 2.6.15-1-686 |
| 21:15.41 | jair_11 | ansong, I see wow, I will be doing that too. though |
| 21:16.41 | Justin | cheloo: what does hdparm -tT /dev/hdg do now? |
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| 21:16.51 | ansong | it keeps slowing down :( i'm going to go see if there's a mirror i missed |
| 21:17.18 | cheloo | /dev/hdg: |
| 21:17.19 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.19 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:17.21 | AI_coder | I'm trying to get a friend up and running with linux. What is the latest stable debian sarge? |
| 21:17.37 | Justin | cheloo: ah, that is much better. |
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| 21:17.47 | cheloo | Justin i told you |
| 21:17.48 | Justin | cheloo: shouldn't be slow anymore |
| 21:17.58 | Justin | cheloo: you said it was a little better, that is 20 times faster |
| 21:18.08 | randomity | AI_coder, not to flame, but unless your friend is quite technical, Debian might not be the best distro to get "up and running" on |
| 21:18.09 | Justin | cheloo: now you can bother to use the correct video driver instead of vesa |
| 21:18.26 | cheloo | Justin not it aint ,, it just on boot after it starts kdm and after i log in to my system , after about 1 ,2 mins its going ok |
| 21:18.39 | AI_coder | randomity: Really? I got someone else up on debian and they thought it was nice, with a kde desktop. |
| 21:18.43 | cheloo | Justin heh i wish i could :) |
| 21:18.45 | AI_coder | What would you reccomend? |
| 21:18.47 | AI_coder | Fedora? |
| 21:18.53 | randomity | NO |
| 21:19.10 | randomity | AI_coder, probably SuSE or Mandriva |
| 21:19.14 | Silent_al | randomity ,lolz |
| 21:19.15 | ansong | randomity, sarge should be ok. i started with sid. and was pleasantly surprised with the (relative) polish of sarge and etch |
| 21:19.24 | randomity | AI_coder, more because of GUI config tools than anything else |
| 21:19.28 | cheloo | AI_coder i wouldnt install suse or Mandriva |
| 21:19.40 | AI_coder | cheloo: Yeah, they're not my favorite either. |
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| 21:19.55 | AI_coder | I liked FC4 though. |
| 21:19.58 | ansong | randomity, granted woody might not be the best choice for him |
| 21:20.19 | randomity | I just think that someone new to linux might benefit from GUI config tools |
| 21:20.29 | cheloo | AI_coder i hade suse 10.0 installed , everything was fine until i have to update some package with the shitty yast :) |
| 21:20.59 | Silent_al | yast is shitty indeed. |
| 21:21.00 | AI_coder | cheloo: Exactly, I like debian for synaptic and I liked FC4 for it's prettiness. |
| 21:21.02 | cheloo | Justin running dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg the driver i need its not on the list |
| 21:21.06 | AI_coder | Yast is fucking retarded. |
| 21:21.06 | randomity | cheloo, true, yast package management ain't great. But have you ever used Fedora's system-config-packages |
| 21:21.10 | Justin | cheloo: what driver do you think yo uneed? |
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| 21:21.35 | cheloo | Justin i tryed them all |
| 21:21.49 | Justin | cheloo: sigh, what video card do you have |
| 21:21.50 | cheloo | Justin gfx thats what i been told |
| 21:22.21 | Justin | cheloo: don't guess. learn. run lspci |
| 21:22.35 | cheloo | 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Famil |
| 21:22.35 | cheloo | y Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 21:22.36 | cheloo | i did |
| 21:22.48 | jair_11 | ansong, it is slowing more?? |
| 21:22.49 | ansong | cheloo, you're doomed |
| 21:23.03 | cheloo | ansong why ? |
| 21:23.08 | ansong | jair_11, slowing? it flipping stopped. |
| 21:23.23 | cheloo | Justin so vga then with 24 bits |
| 21:23.39 | ansong | cheloo, oh, no reason :) |
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| 21:24.18 | cheloo | justin but i did try vga with 24 bits and i get a error saying its not supported with 24 16 15 and 8 bits |
| 21:25.00 | ootput | with sid, does locales supercede base-config? |
| 21:25.07 | cheloo | justin what would be best to choice from the menu ? |
| 21:25.16 | ootput | supersede, rather |
| 21:25.16 | _rene_ | base-config is obsolete, yes |
| 21:25.26 | jair_11 | ansong, but it is still installing or what?? |
| 21:25.29 | Justin | cheloo: the one that starts with 'i' and has numbers in it |
| 21:25.33 | jair_11 | ansong, resintall the installation? |
| 21:25.36 | jair_11 | maybe |
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| 21:26.03 | cheloo | Justin there are more with i and numbers |
| 21:26.28 | cheloo | Justin like i said i tryed i810 and it didnt work :( |
| 21:27.13 | smacnay | what is the syntax for copying a section of files from a large froup, that have names changing by single increments? 'cp file00[24-44].jpg ./here/' when those files are in the middle of a large number? |
| 21:27.20 | POVaddct | cheloo: which xfree/xorg version do you use? |
| 21:27.24 | ansong | jair_11, i've restarted it, but it's slow... |
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| 21:28.53 | Justin | smacnay: cp file00{24...44}.jpg ./here/ |
| 21:28.59 | Justin | smacnay: er, 2 dots |
| 21:29.03 | cheloo | POVaddct 6.9 |
| 21:29.19 | cheloo | POVaddct from backports.org |
| 21:29.53 | POVaddct | cheloo: hmm, 6.9 should have support for the 915G chipset |
| 21:30.32 | cheloo | do i have to enter anything for identifier video card ? |
| 21:30.49 | smacnay | Justin: thanks - I didn't have the dots in but did figure out the {} after asking |
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| 21:30.54 | cheloo | POVaddct or should i just let xorg detect my video hardware itself ? |
| 21:31.03 | jair_11 | ansong, ok I hope it really works |
| 21:31.05 | ansong | anyone from the midwest US know of a faster mirror for www.backports.org? |
| 21:31.22 | smacnay | Justin: worked like a charm |
| 21:31.22 | ansong | jair_11, i don't see why it shouldn't |
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| 21:31.36 | jair_11 | ansong, I am on Chicago though and I think that all the backports mirrors are from Europe haha :) |
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| 21:31.49 | POVaddct | cheloo: you can try running "Xorg -configure" and inspect the xorg.conf.new file |
| 21:32.32 | jair_11 | ansong, did you download the j2sd or which one from the java? |
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| 21:32.51 | cheloo | POVaddct well i cannot run Xorg -configure because the server its alreay running |
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| 21:33.05 | ansong | cheloo, worst it could come to is you spend $30 on an old radeon or nvidia card. they're very well supported |
| 21:33.19 | cheloo | lol |
| 21:33.35 | cheloo | yeah i know nvidia |
| 21:33.41 | cheloo | shitty one too |
| 21:33.42 | cheloo | :) |
| 21:33.44 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok sarge works, but what is a recomended kernel? 2.4 or 2.6? SMP |
| 21:33.53 | cheloo | POVaddct No X server known for your video hardware. |
| 21:34.08 | ansong | jair_11, i didn't get the sdk. i got the file jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin |
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| 21:34.19 | POVaddct | cheloo: so the chipset is unsupported |
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| 21:34.45 | cheloo | POVaddct i get that when i let xorg to detect it autom. |
| 21:34.57 | jair_11 | ansong, I got it |
| 21:35.04 | cheloo | POVaddct it doesnt make any diff , if i choice one myself isnt it ? |
| 21:35.15 | cheloo | justin what do you think ? |
| 21:35.39 | ansong | cheloo whats the problem with xorg now? you say it's running... |
| 21:35.59 | cheloo | ansong it is but not with the right driver |
| 21:36.29 | jair_11 | ansong, I hope that that one fix the java I have installed already. |
| 21:36.35 | ansong | cheloo, which one is "right?" |
| 21:36.49 | POVaddct | cheloo: are you running X with "vesa" or "fbdev" right now? |
| 21:37.19 | cheloo | ansong i try to find out thats my problem |
| 21:37.30 | cheloo | POVaddct with vesa |
| 21:37.38 | DJ-Marcuzz | someone? what s |
| 21:37.41 | jair_11 | I have this version working good already: 1_5_0_02 is what I have installed already |
| 21:37.46 | DJ-Marcuzz | is an good kernel for sarge? |
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| 21:37.53 | jair_11 | ansong, I should remove it? |
| 21:38.00 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: the one provided with ti? |
| 21:38.01 | azeem | it |
| 21:38.05 | ootput | DJ-Marcuzz: whatever's appropriate |
| 21:38.08 | ansong | cheloo, if it works at all with an integrated intel chipset, count your blessings |
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| 21:38.22 | ansong | DJ-Marcuzz, for a server? or for a desktop? |
| 21:38.24 | ryanium | E: Package unrar has no installation candidate |
| 21:38.34 | ryanium | Anyone know how to fix this on apt-get install unrar |
| 21:38.44 | azeem | ryanium: try unrar-free or unrar-nonfree |
| 21:38.45 | DJ-Marcuzz | ansong, server with dual PIII CPU and using software raid |
| 21:39.11 | ootput | dual pIII? |
| 21:39.11 | ryanium | azeem, no@unrar-free, and unrar-nonfree gave me same error |
| 21:39.22 | DJ-Marcuzz | yes |
| 21:39.22 | ansong | DJ-Marcuzz, i'd go with the latest 2.4 if it supports your raid |
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| 21:39.35 | cheloo | ansong never know |
| 21:39.36 | azeem | ryanium: do you have non-free in your sources.list? |
| 21:40.00 | ryanium | azeem, no lol |
| 21:40.18 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, and i need x on it, i heard of x.org and the older xfree, whats better to run on it in combination with xfce? |
| 21:40.49 | cheloo | DJ-Marcuzz xorg i would |
| 21:41.14 | jair_11 | ansong, this is what I have currently : http://pastebin.com/507295 |
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| 21:41.34 | jair_11 | ansong, should I remove it and install the new one with the procedure you gave me |
| 21:41.51 | DJ-Marcuzz | i need an backport then? |
| 21:41.51 | jair_11 | ansong, I will need to install the fakeroot or it is installed already in debian. |
| 21:42.29 | azeem | jair_11: apt-get install fakeroot, and you will see |
| 21:42.37 | azeem | if you are talking about the fakeroot package, that is |
| 21:42.56 | ansong | jair_11, i would test your new jre before removing your old one. and check the symlinks for your plugins to make sure they are pointing to the new one. yeah fakeroot should already be installed, otherwise apt-get it |
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| 21:43.30 | jair_11 | ansong, ohh ok so then I will not remove it the old one I mean |
| 21:43.49 | ansong | jair_11, you installed it manually right? |
| 21:44.15 | ansong | oh god, 5kB/s |
| 21:44.34 | jair_11 | ansong, yes |
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| 21:44.59 | KerPlunk | DJ-Marcuzz: it doesn't matter what you choose xfree86 or xorg...xfce doesn't have composite support or anything like that... xfce will be the same in either one. |
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| 21:45.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | yeah but xorg is newer, can i install xorg? btw, im now installing the 2.4smp kernel (but whats wrong with the 2.6?) |
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| 21:46.24 | smiler1987 | hi hope somone can help i have installed debian on my compaq pasario 1200 and when i try and exec startkde i get the message unable to open display and then cannot connect to x serve |
| 21:46.25 | kondi | can somebody give me the (mirror)respository(source.list) for mplayer, i m try to install mplayer (Apt-get install mplayer)it doesn t work |
| 21:46.50 | ansong | jair_11, it probably won't get in your way. it's much better installing with java-package though. it's already in my path, etc |
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| 21:47.29 | drizzd | kondi: deb ftp://ftp.nerim.net/debian-marillat/ sid main |
| 21:47.38 | jair_11 | ansong, so i should uninstall the package I have then and do it the way you did it |
| 21:47.40 | jair_11 | :) |
| 21:47.42 | jair_11 | right |
| 21:47.43 | DJ-Marcuzz | KerPlunk? |
| 21:47.55 | kondi | when i try apt-cache search mplayer I cant find player can somebody give me the respository for mplayer |
| 21:48.18 | Kvant | !tell kondi about marillat |
| 21:48.22 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: I thought this was going to be a server? Do you plan to use X extensively? |
| 21:48.26 | kondi | then I try it drizzd |
| 21:48.27 | ansong | DJ-Marcuzz, if you want xorg, be prepared to wait a long time for it from backports. xfree from a debian repository will do you just as well |
| 21:48.33 | smiler1987 | is there a way to re config the display |
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| 21:49.15 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, ill use the x not much only for 4 programs, i run vnc to check on them |
| 21:49.19 | ansong | azeem, you'll need some xserver installed to be able to have vnc desktops and stuff |
| 21:49.37 | azeem | ansong: sure, but xfree86 should do |
| 21:49.44 | azeem | no? |
| 21:49.53 | ansong | azeem, yeah. that's what i'm sticking with |
| 21:49.54 | azeem | no need to needlessly install xorg backports on stable for that, I'd say |
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| 21:50.28 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, when i want xfce to run on sarge what packets will i need? |
| 21:50.37 | wwallace | hello to all |
| 21:50.51 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: xfce4 |
| 21:51.15 | DJ-Marcuzz | yes, but xfree and stuff? |
| 21:51.28 | ansong | DJ-Marcuzz, if you don't have it, it'll get it for you. |
| 21:51.37 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok |
| 21:51.49 | DJ-Marcuzz | and whats the BIG difference betwean 2.4 and 2.6? |
| 21:51.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | kernel? |
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| 21:52.08 | jair_11 | ansong, so i will do it the way you exactly did it |
| 21:54.20 | ansong | *cough* stability *cough* |
| 21:54.20 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: between the 2.4 and 2.6 kernels? |
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| 21:54.21 | DJ-Marcuzz | yeas |
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| 21:54.22 | DaDave | hi all |
| 21:54.23 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: they are quite different, 2.6 is about two years older in development right now |
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| 21:54.24 | DJ-Marcuzz | well do all the servers run 2.4? |
| 21:54.24 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: but if 2.4 works, no big need to change, especially not for a server |
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| 21:54.25 | DaDave | How can i force Apache to exectue a cgi script with root rights (aka setuid)? |
| 21:54.27 | multi_io | when I click the link on this page: http://www.physik.tu-berlin.de/~klischat/firefox1.5bug/test.html , a line break is inserted into it. I use Firefox 1.5 on Linux. It does not happen in FF 1.0.7/Debian, FF1.5/Windows or FF1.5/Solaris. Can anyone reproduce or not reproduce the problem? |
| 21:54.29 | DJ-Marcuzz | becaus aint there programs that speccialy need 2.6? |
| 21:54.29 | drizzd | DaDave: chmod +s /path/to/executable |
| 21:54.33 | DaDave | drizzd: will this also work even when apache does not run under root? |
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| 21:54.50 | drizzd | DaDave: that's the point |
| 21:55.04 | DaDave | drizzd: so it will work? |
| 21:55.29 | kondi | its doesn t work = gzip: stdin: unexpected end of file |
| 21:55.29 | kondi | Err ftp://ftp.nerim.net breezy/universe P |
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| 21:56.33 | DaDave | drizzd: ? |
| 21:56.53 | drizzd | it should |
| 21:56.59 | DaDave | drizzd: okay. |
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| 21:57.19 | drizzd | DaDave: of course, the file has to be owned by root |
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| 21:57.27 | DaDave | drizzd: yeah. |
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| 21:57.49 | smiler1987 | can anyone help i am getting unable to open display how do i re configur this. thanks |
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| 21:58.06 | DJ-Marcuzz | hey 2.6 looks to be quicker :| in some stats |
| 21:58.44 | ansong | DJ-Marcuzz, typically servers value stability over speed |
| 21:58.47 | swatikiss | i am having trouble ripping with grip... it says that my encoder executible is invalid.. though i have the encoders installed |
| 21:58.54 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok :P |
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| 21:59.52 | smiler1987 | how to reconfiguar the display driver for kde? |
| 21:59.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok, now one last thing, when i have to transplant my raid drives into another maschine, how can i get them to work over there without any lose of data? |
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| 22:00.14 | chealer | smiler1987: do you mean the X Window System driver? |
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| 22:00.52 | smiler1987 | chealer: i am trying to run kde i have just installed it |
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| 22:01.12 | smiler1987 | using the exec startkde |
| 22:01.12 | chealer | smiler1987: and what's keeping you from doing so? |
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| 22:01.50 | smiler1987 | chealer: when i execute it it comes up with unablw to open display |
| 22:02.24 | chealer | smiler1987: is X working? |
| 22:02.25 | jair_11 | ansong, it ends? |
| 22:02.39 | jair_11 | ansong, did you try to open the application to see if works ??? |
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| 22:03.08 | smiler1987 | chealer: then says "kpersonalizer: cannot connect to X server" |
| 22:04.42 | smiler1987 | chealer: no startx seams to nto work |
| 22:05.00 | chealer | smiler1987: did you check X's logs? |
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| 22:05.23 | DJ-Marcuzz | startxfce4 wo't do: line 34: exec: xinit: not found |
| 22:05.35 | smiler1987 | chealer: what can i use to read them? |
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| 22:05.55 | chealer | smiler1987: any pager such as less. |
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| 22:06.08 | estevao | hi all... |
| 22:06.11 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: are you sure you installed xfce4? |
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| 22:06.19 | estevao | how can I change the language of my debian sarge? |
| 22:06.22 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: also, did you install x-window-system? |
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| 22:06.33 | estevao | change to portuguese |
| 22:06.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | i didn't install x-window-system |
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| 22:07.02 | DJ-Marcuzz | i just did apt-get ninstall xfce4 |
| 22:07.12 | jeanseb | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:07.17 | estevao | someone knows? |
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| 22:07.21 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: you need it if you want X |
| 22:07.37 | azeem | estevao: it depends on how you use your system? |
| 22:07.42 | azeem | estevao: do you use KDE or GNOME? |
| 22:07.43 | DJ-Marcuzz | ok |
| 22:07.57 | chealer | jeanseb: are you using stable? |
| 22:08.07 | estevao | azeem, yep gnome |
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| 22:08.28 | chealer | jeanseb: hum, please don't ask on two channels at the same time |
| 22:09.02 | jeanseb | <chealer> nobdoy is active on #debian-kde |
| 22:09.05 | smiler1987 | chealer: is there a simple way to re run the install of kde? |
| 22:09.17 | freeone3000 | dpkg-reconfigure kde ? |
| 22:09.17 | azeem | estevao: you can choose your language at the gdm screen I think |
| 22:10.04 | estevao | azeem, I want to change the language in all the system... |
| 22:10.13 | chealer | jeanseb: I doubt that, as I'm on #debian-kde myself |
| 22:10.23 | pipeline | estevao: You need to dpkg-reconfigure your locales packages to set the default system locale. |
| 22:10.25 | estevao | not just in the xorg |
| 22:10.34 | chealer | smiler1987: I don't see how that would help you. check X's logs |
| 22:10.41 | estevao | pipeline |
| 22:10.49 | estevao | hm... ill try that... |
| 22:10.50 | azeem | estevao: I think you can put LANG=foo into /etc/environment |
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| 22:10.58 | smiler1987 | chealer: i can't seam to navigate to them! |
| 22:11.06 | estevao | azeem, yep.. |
| 22:11.16 | chealer | smiler1987: why? |
| 22:11.19 | estevao | now I remember :) |
| 22:11.19 | jeanseb | cheater: I know you are on this channel. However, nobody is helping, not event talking about anything |
| 22:11.38 | pipeline | estevao: Yeah, just run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and it'll let you choose the system-wide default locale. |
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| 22:12.05 | chealer | jeanseb: start by telling which release you use there. #debian-kde is not crowded by |
| 22:12.08 | smiler1987 | chealer: proabably cos im not smart enough |
| 22:12.09 | chealer | > 700 people |
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| 22:12.32 | jeanseb | cheater: I am using debian 3.1 |
| 22:12.43 | chealer | smiler1987: I don't think that could explain. just $ pager /var/log/Xlogfile |
| 22:12.50 | CaT[tm] | hey. what would be the recommended util for creating and maintaining your own deb repository? (not a mirror of another repo but I wish to make my own with my own packages) |
| 22:12.56 | chealer | jeanseb: tell that to #debian-kde please |
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| 22:13.20 | jair_11 | ansong, everything is ok? |
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| 22:14.28 | Bucciarati | sorry being ot but it's urgent: does sf.net work for you? |
| 22:14.32 | Bucciarati | the website i mean |
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| 22:15.33 | KerPlunk | Bucciarati: who cares...the mirrors sites for sf.net work. |
| 22:15.57 | KerPlunk | CaT[tm]: Why? |
| 22:16.04 | smiler1987 | chealer: it just seams like there is alot missing |
| 22:16.13 | smiler1987 | as if the install hasnt worked properly |
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| 22:16.35 | Bucciarati | KerPlunk: it's a sensitive issue about the website and shell server.. don't care about the mirrors |
| 22:16.36 | smiler1987 | chealer: is there anything that i can tell u to help? |
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| 22:17.03 | cheloo | i just install gtk2-engines-highcontrast and its not listed in gtk theme switch |
| 22:17.08 | cheloo | any ideea ? |
| 22:17.09 | CaT[tm] | kerplunk: because I'll be rolling quite a few debs of my own and I wish to have a central repository of them so that when it comes time to update, I can just do the update/upgrade thing with apt. |
| 22:17.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | azeem, why do i get an terrublly old xfce4 look when i install on sarge, on testing it looks so more modert, nice pflashing plash screen, nice long and a bit curved panel, and this is like old style :S |
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| 22:17.30 | bleaked | what's the easiest way to simply output installed packages? |
| 22:17.33 | chealer | smiler1987: if you can't figure out what's wrong by looking at X's logs, paste the log somewhere and someone may look at it for you |
| 22:17.50 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: because Sarge got released some time ago, and will not get updated for newer packages |
| 22:17.55 | chealer | smiler1987: a lot of what missing BTW? |
| 22:18.04 | cheloo | bleaked install KPagage |
| 22:18.20 | cheloo | bleaked sorry KPackage |
| 22:18.40 | DJ-Marcuzz | thats a shame becaus this looks crap :P |
| 22:19.03 | chealer | cheloo: that wouldn't help him |
| 22:19.05 | DJ-Marcuzz | does sarge ever gets an update? |
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| 22:19.27 | chealer | bleaked: try $ dpkg --get-selections |
| 22:19.33 | cheloo | chealer why not ? you simply get listed all installed packages and also all available packages |
| 22:19.41 | smiler1987 | chealer: thanks for your help |
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| 22:20.22 | dj-death | Hi all |
| 22:20.31 | DJ-Marcuzz | and the font of the file browser is just UHGE! |
| 22:20.42 | chealer | cheloo: when he says output he means something he can copy and paste, something on the console. anyway, kpackage is pretty much the worst APT frontend in Debian (perhaps excluding gnome-apt_ |
| 22:20.44 | chealer | ) |
| 22:20.57 | dj-death | anyone knows how to convert /etc/raidtab into /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 22:21.09 | cheloo | chealer ahh i see |
| 22:21.12 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: sarge is only updated for security issues and totally broken packages, not for cosmetic fixes |
| 22:21.16 | kondi | here is one respository for mplayer = deb http://ftp.inf.tu-dresden.de/os/linux/dists/ubuntu/ breezy main restricted |
| 22:21.16 | kondi | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:21.30 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: if you rather want a desktop than a server, I suggest you take a look at testing |
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| 22:22.19 | DJ-Marcuzz | hehe, no i need an server, but i need the x for some progs, but its just..... or ill do with it ;) |
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| 22:22.56 | azeem | DJ-Marcuzz: then maybe try another window-manager, if you cannot deal with how XFCE looks |
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| 22:23.42 | DaDave | Does anyone know a good and easy to maintain email server which supports POP3/SMTP and IMAP in one suite? |
| 22:23.43 | worthy | hello |
| 22:23.54 | worthy | sorry for the red, hold on i'll change it |
| 22:24.08 | worthy | im using kopete for the first time. hold on i'll change my font color |
| 22:24.31 | DJ-Marcuzz | azeem ill have to deal with it ;) |
| 22:25.14 | n0ideaatall | do you guys know how disble the output of what I type in a bash script |
| 22:25.16 | n0ideaatall | ? |
| 22:25.24 | DaDave | Any suggestions for a good email server? |
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| 22:25.36 | DJ-Marcuzz | but can i use the contrib packages with sarge? (need the tightvnc java package |
| 22:25.50 | n0ideaatall | like the thing they use to hide what one type when being prompt for a passwd? |
| 22:25.56 | loopdee | wierd, everytime i remove exim4 it wants to remove my mysql-server too |
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| 22:26.12 | Zugschlus | loopdee: mysql-server probably depends on mail-transport-agent |
| 22:26.40 | Gnea | DaDave: are you looking for one daemon that does everything? |
| 22:26.51 | DaDave | Gnea: yeah. |
| 22:26.57 | DaDave | Gnea: that would be the best. |
| 22:26.57 | Gnea | DaDave: does not exist. |
| 22:26.58 | reind | When I run apt-get update I get the following error, this happens with all the repos i've set in sources.list. Any idea what's wrong? There are no public key available for the following key IDs:..." |
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| 22:27.14 | DaDave | Gnea: so what would you recommend instead? |
| 22:27.25 | Gnea | DaDave: what do you want to do? |
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| 22:27.44 | DevilChaos | hello folks |
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| 22:28.04 | DaDave | Gnea: i need a SMTP/POP3/IMAP server with the abillity to have virtual domains and best would be to have a nice web-frontend to administrate... |
| 22:28.10 | chealer | dpkg: sudoku is a simple logical game. In Etch, try ksudoku (KDE) or gnome-sudoku, or ask me about gnudoku |
| 22:28.10 | dpkg | chealer: okay |
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| 22:28.28 | worthy | testing |
| 22:28.35 | DevilChaos | sound not working on my laptop its sis chipset any hints on what i need? |
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| 22:28.55 | worthy | color test |
| 22:29.30 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: which sis chipset? |
| 22:29.47 | Gnea | DaDave: i would say stay away from qmail+vpopmail - horde seems to work great with exim4+dovecot+sa-exim+spamassassin+clamav - YMMV |
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| 22:30.11 | DevilChaos | not entirly sure hold on got it written down |
| 22:30.44 | DaDave | Gnea: qmail+vpopmail can be quite hard. we do have this solution right now. it works good but it's not so easy to maintain... |
| 22:30.51 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: lspci -n | grep 0401 |
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| 22:31.14 | Gnea | !qmail |
| 22:31.15 | dpkg | hmm... qmail is a non-free (it's illegal to distribute modified binaries) MTA by djb, or http://www.qmail.org/, or for good getting-started docs see LWQ: http://www.lifewithqmail.org/lwq.html, or an MTA that insists on having 3.4 million configuration files spread throughout the filesystem. for reasons why you shouldn't use qmail, see http://lists.debian.org/debian-isp/2004/02/msg00179.html or http://www-dt.e-technik.uni-dortmund.de/~ma/qmail-bugs.html |
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| 22:31.32 | Gnea | !exim4 |
| 22:31.33 | dpkg | i guess exim4 is an easy to configure and also powerfull MTA licensed under the GPL, a great sendmail replacement. apt-get able debs for woody are available at http://www.logic.univie.ac.at/~ametzler/debian/exim4manpages/, or set to have ident checking on by default, which will slow down connect times drastically. See /etc/exim4/conf.d/main/02_exim4-config_options for the fix |
| 22:31.49 | jhaig | When logged in as root (yes, I know I shouldn't) I can plug in a usb drive and it comes up on the (Gnome) desktop. When logged in as a user, howerver, it doesn't work. I guess this is a permissions problem, but I don't know where to look to find what permissions are set incorrectly. Can anyone help? If it is important, passwords (except for root) are on an NIS server. |
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| 22:32.01 | tlivingston | is it fairly simple running Sarge to automount a USB key? |
| 22:32.55 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: got an id No for pci |
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| 22:33.07 | jhaig | I'm guessing I either need to put users in a certain group or set some permissions on some particular files. |
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| 22:34.24 | loopdee | hal or plugdev or something? |
| 22:34.27 | jhaig | loopdee: Was that to me? I think hal is being used. |
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| 22:34.58 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: 630 chipset i think |
| 22:35.00 | DaDave | Gnea. so i will need to maintain at lest two services? |
| 22:35.00 | loopdee | yea, maybe plugdev... i had that problem a while ago |
| 22:35.02 | pipeline | damnit |
| 22:35.07 | pipeline | I was going to answer his question |
| 22:35.09 | pipeline | and he just leaves |
| 22:35.10 | pipeline | bastards |
| 22:35.11 | pipeline | no patience |
| 22:35.22 | SerajewelKS | !tell pipeline about enter |
| 22:35.23 | jhaig | pipeline: You can answer mine - I'm still here! ;-) |
| 22:35.25 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: that's not a sound card |
| 22:35.27 | chealer | !comfort pipeline |
| 22:35.27 | dpkg | There, there, pipeline. It's OK. I'm here for you. |
| 22:35.30 | DevilChaos | lol |
| 22:35.35 | DevilChaos | ok |
| 22:35.41 | DevilChaos | em |
| 22:35.45 | DevilChaos | ? |
| 22:35.47 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: try this command: lspci -n | grep 0401 |
| 22:35.54 | Gnea | DaDave: there's more than 2, it's not like you need a degree to do it |
| 22:36.06 | swatikiss | im trying to rip a cd with grip but it complains that the encoder executabile is invalid... i have the correct values in the config but it still complains... what can i do? |
| 22:36.22 | KerPlunk | !tell swatikiss about repeat |
| 22:36.26 | pipeline | swatikiss: I would be inclined to believe what it says. |
| 22:36.28 | Gnea | swatikiss: what encoder? |
| 22:36.40 | DaDave | Gnea: yeah. but i have limited time and i will need to write a config frontend for it so the lesser number of services i have to maintatin the better it is... |
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| 22:37.10 | swatikiss | Gnea, i am trying to use lame |
| 22:37.13 | DaDave | Gnea: btw: what do you think about curier as email server? |
| 22:37.18 | kspath | DaDave: great, better get started now. |
| 22:37.20 | swatikiss | Gnea, i have lame set up on my laptop |
| 22:37.34 | DevilChaos | got 0000:00:01.4 0401: 1039:7018 (rev 01) |
| 22:37.51 | Gnea | DaDave: you're just going to have to bite the bullet and just install them and learn how to set them up - basically, just do it. do it on a non-production system first, it's much easier that way |
| 22:37.56 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: that IS a sound card |
| 22:37.57 | swatikiss | !tell kerplunk --- that was like 15-30 minutes ago.. chill out |
| 22:38.07 | DevilChaos | aH! |
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| 22:38.10 | worthy | (D) |
| 22:38.11 | DevilChaos | :) |
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| 22:39.14 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: you need the i810_audio (OSS) or snd-intel8x0 (ALSA) module for that |
| 22:39.31 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: no, sorry |
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| 22:39.37 | Gnea | FFS |
| 22:39.54 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: the trident / snd-trident driver |
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| 22:40.02 | fusionfox | how do i change the apt sources FILE people cant anyone take 3 secs and answer me! |
| 22:40.20 | Gnea | !tell fusionfox about ask |
| 22:41.05 | KerPlunk | !tell fusionfox about sources.list |
| 22:41.09 | dabaR | ask is... |
| 22:41.12 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: which kernel version do you have? |
| 22:41.20 | Gnea | !tell dabaR about ask |
| 22:41.25 | DevilChaos | 2.6.8 |
| 22:41.30 | DevilChaos | i386 |
| 22:41.31 | dabaR | Gnea: I know what it is, just fooling around. |
| 22:41.39 | Gnea | dabaR: ah ok |
| 22:41.50 | dvm1981 | Where we can find all the 'tell' commands ? |
| 22:41.59 | Gnea | nowhere. |
| 22:42.13 | dvm1981 | The '!tell' |
| 22:42.17 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: the try "modprobe snd-trident" and "modprobe snd-pcm-oss" |
| 22:42.23 | Gnea | dvm1981: nowhere. |
| 22:42.34 | DevilChaos | k |
| 22:42.46 | dabaR | haha. |
| 22:42.49 | dabaR | !factoids |
| 22:42.49 | dpkg | Give me more! Bigmouth hungry! |
| 22:43.10 | kspath | Everyone ready for May 14-22 in Oaxtepec, Mexico. Master your Spanish and English ASAP |
| 22:43.11 | dvm1981 | Gnea: So we must know all the commands ? I find it verry usefull and easy to suggest someone |
| 22:43.22 | dabaR | dvm1981: "/msg dpkg something" "/msg dpkg something else" and so on till you use up all possible combinations in the universe |
| 22:43.25 | Gnea | uhm |
| 22:43.29 | Gnea | kspath: what for? |
| 22:43.34 | DevilChaos | yup yup that done it ty :) |
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| 22:43.43 | DevilChaos | snd-trident |
| 22:43.58 | kspath | Gnea: Debian DevConf? |
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| 22:44.08 | l3m | is there a way i can find out the exact model of the harddisk i have in my computer without opening it? |
| 22:44.09 | Gnea | dvm1981: that sort of thing leads to abuse. |
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| 22:44.23 | dvm1981 | dabaR: I try it now, i not really understand |
| 22:44.24 | zulu | heeelpp :) I did not know what happened but I lost my root passwd!! I can't remember having it changed.. hope I have not been breaked..how do I recover my root? |
| 22:44.36 | zulu | because single user root ask me for root!! |
| 22:44.38 | dabaR | dvm1981: you would basically hang out here, and learn about the useful ones for you to help someone. |
| 22:44.39 | zulu | how should I do? |
| 22:44.52 | Gnea | zulu: reboot |
| 22:45.02 | zulu | Gnea? |
| 22:45.12 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: good. which notebook is it? |
| 22:45.16 | Gnea | zulu: who's system is it? |
| 22:45.21 | dabaR | zulu: restarting into recover mode asks your for a password? |
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| 22:45.22 | zulu | mine! |
| 22:45.28 | zulu | I have a double boot linux and windows! |
| 22:45.30 | Gnea | zulu: with grub? |
| 22:45.33 | zulu | yes |
| 22:45.34 | dvm1981 | dabaR: OK so you are loosing people... |
| 22:45.43 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: i also have this card (SiS 7018) in my notebook |
| 22:45.43 | tiCo89 | hmmm, how can i upload everything (including the orig.tar.gz) with dupload? |
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| 22:45.49 | dabaR | dvm1981: losing is spelled with one "o" |
| 22:45.50 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: advent 5480 |
| 22:45.53 | zulu | so? |
| 22:45.58 | Gnea | zulu: just append init=/bin/sh to your kernel line and boot that, mount / into rw mode and reset it |
| 22:46.10 | Gnea | then reboot |
| 22:46.11 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: few years old |
| 22:46.20 | zulu | ok Gnea will try that!! |
| 22:46.26 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: mine is a jvc mp-xp 7210 |
| 22:46.27 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: spreyed it cammo |
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| 22:46.32 | zulu | init=/bin/sh make my kernel launch a shell? |
| 22:46.40 | zulu | before getty? |
| 22:46.42 | Gnea | try it |
| 22:46.46 | Gnea | and see what happens |
| 22:46.54 | swatikiss | what is the best way to share my printer on my desktop computer over my lan with linux? |
| 22:47.00 | zulu | ok |
| 22:47.02 | zulu | be back |
| 22:47.12 | DevilChaos | POVaddct: do you use encryption? |
| 22:47.14 | dabaR | swatikiss: is desktop a new OS? |
| 22:47.21 | Gnea | swatikiss: samba |
| 22:47.22 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: for what? |
| 22:47.28 | Gnea | swatikiss: and cups |
| 22:47.31 | DevilChaos | email whatever? |
| 22:47.34 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: email? filesystems? |
| 22:47.46 | DevilChaos | any |
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| 22:47.48 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: i use gpg for encrypting email |
| 22:47.49 | swatikiss | Gnea, k, thanks.. ill do that - can you recommend a good howto / resource? |
| 22:47.53 | DevilChaos | ah |
| 22:47.57 | Gnea | !googleit |
| 22:47.57 | dpkg | googleit is, like, #debian is not your search engine. |
| 22:47.59 | DevilChaos | seahorse? |
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| 22:48.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | Server-FS1:/HW-Arrays/Data-Array.1/Storage# netcat -l -p 7000 | tar -v -x |
| 22:48.13 | DJ-Marcuzz | Can't grab 0.0.0.0:7000 with bind |
| 22:48.19 | DJ-Marcuzz | what am i doing wrong? |
| 22:48.22 | POVaddct | DevilChaos: mutt+gpg |
| 22:48.27 | ne0futur | if I control+alt+ + |
| 22:48.33 | ne0futur | and then run mplayer |
| 22:48.38 | shadowarts | i removed apache for apache2 but now im moving back and i dont seem to have an /etc/init.d/apache script anymore, where can i get a copy of it? |
| 22:48.40 | ne0futur | my X server always crash |
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| 22:48.49 | ne0futur | never happened on rh/mdk |
| 22:48.52 | DJ-Marcuzz | i wanna lett the send pc pack it into tar, send it to the server and the server sgould unpack the tar |
| 22:49.21 | ne0futur | not crash when running mplayer but later like when I resize another window |
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| 22:50.16 | ne0futur | ( /etc/debian_version 3.1 ) |
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| 22:50.31 | Justin | DJ-Marcuzz: something already running on port 7000? |
| 22:51.38 | DJ-Marcuzz | nope :| |
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| 22:51.55 | DevilChaos | ok i have dsa at 1024 and ELG -E at 3968 which is better the higher one know it kind of silly question but? |
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| 22:52.21 | thecoolestcow | anyone have any opinions about Captive, the NTFS filesystem |
| 22:52.22 | DevilChaos | id av thought dsa |
| 22:52.32 | jhaig | I seem to remember that to add a user to a group you need to give a full list of all existing groups for that user (eg, "usermod -ggroup1,group2,group3 user" to just add group3). Is there a trick to avoid this? |
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| 22:52.40 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: DO NOT USE. |
| 22:52.49 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: Captive is 1. very slow 2. very old 3. unmaintained |
| 22:52.52 | thecoolestcow | pipeline: oh its that bad? |
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| 22:52.54 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: getting it to work is no fun at all. |
| 22:52.55 | jhaig | (other than editing the /etc/group file by hand) |
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| 22:53.14 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: The best way to get read/write access to your NTFS partitions is to run windows inside an emulator, then share them over the network. |
| 22:53.24 | jair_11 | ansong, did you finished downloading the packages from backports.org? |
| 22:53.25 | DevilChaos | pipline: hey job done on laptop talking with now |
| 22:53.27 | zulu | hey... I rebooted my linux kernel using grub init=/bin/sh but when the shell is spawned when I try to change my forgotted root passwd it tell passwd command tell token lock |
| 22:53.31 | zulu | what does this mean? |
| 22:53.37 | pipeline | DevilChaos: ? |
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| 22:53.52 | pipeline | zulu: what? |
| 22:53.52 | DevilChaos | you were helping me yesterday no? |
| 22:53.58 | DJ-Marcuzz | got it |
| 22:53.59 | pipeline | DevilChaos: I don't know. |
| 22:54.24 | zulu | why can't I change my root passwd? |
| 22:54.28 | kspath | there will still be an obvious option to pick text based installation when GTK interface installer is standard? |
| 22:54.39 | Gnea | zulu: like i said, you have to mount / in rw mode |
| 22:54.44 | zulu | it was |
| 22:54.46 | thecoolestcow | pipeline: like, a vmware type thing? |
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| 22:54.48 | DevilChaos | ty guys later :) |
| 22:54.52 | Gnea | obviously it wasn't |
| 22:54.59 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: vmware is probably your best option, yes. |
| 22:55.00 | zulu | when I typed mount without option I saw / /dev/sda2 (rw) |
| 22:55.02 | zulu | ... |
| 22:55.09 | Gnea | and you believed cached data? |
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| 22:55.17 | thecoolestcow | pipeline: ah. but you need a lot of system resources for that, no? |
| 22:55.17 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: If you only need read access, the linux NTFS support is just fine for that. |
| 22:55.18 | zulu | cached data? |
| 22:55.23 | zulu | what do you mean? |
| 22:55.28 | Gnea | mount reads from /etc/mtab |
| 22:55.34 | Gnea | that was from your last boot |
| 22:55.37 | thecoolestcow | pipeline: yeah that's what i use now. oh well, it's fine. |
| 22:55.37 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: No, not really. VMware won't use more RAM than the guest system is actually using. |
| 22:55.43 | zulu | ohh ok Gnea |
| 22:55.47 | zulu | so I will be back.. |
| 22:55.50 | zulu | :) :) |
| 22:55.54 | Gnea | look in /etc/init.d/ |
| 22:55.58 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: That is to say, if you allocate 256M to the guest system, but it only uses 100m of that, vmware won't consume the whole 256M. |
| 22:56.00 | zulu | for? |
| 22:56.08 | Gnea | there is a command there that says how to remount the root partition |
| 22:56.22 | thecoolestcow | pipeline: oh cool. thanks |
| 22:56.24 | zulu | ok |
| 22:56.27 | pipeline | thecoolestcow: Well, if you give VMware direct access to your hard drive, you can share the NTFS partitions over the virtual network. As long as both the host and guest OS do not access the same partition, you'll be fine. |
| 22:56.29 | zulu | nothing else? |
| 22:56.30 | brosiozzz | vlc is broken on debian unstable ???? |
| 22:56.43 | pipeline | brosiozzz: Not as far as I can tell. |
| 22:56.45 | Gnea | brosiozzz: it is ?!?! |
| 22:57.06 | brosiozzz | vlc: Depends: dbus-1 (>= 0.23.4) but it is not installable |
| 22:57.07 | brosiozzz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:57.27 | Gnea | works fine here |
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| 22:57.49 | brosiozzz | i've install this deb unstable today :\ |
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| 22:59.49 | Gnea | brosiozzz: so why can't you install dbus-1 or libhal0? |
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| 23:00.43 | chugga | whats a new VNC client to use. small and fast is my watch |
| 23:00.58 | jair_11 | guys I think that backports.org is down?? |
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| 23:01.13 | jair_11 | I accessed finally |
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| 23:01.23 | brosiozzz | Gnea: libhal0 is unavviable exist only libhal1 !!! |
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| 23:01.39 | pipeline | brosiozzz: *shrug* |
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| 23:01.47 | pipeline | brosiozzz: Looks like you need to update your package database. |
| 23:01.52 | Gnea | brosiozzz: funny, i see both |
| 23:01.57 | brosiozzz | what means ? |
| 23:01.59 | Gnea | brosiozzz: did you apt-get update? |
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| 23:02.06 | brosiozzz | of course |
| 23:02.15 | brosiozzz | i think its better wait few days |
| 23:02.16 | brosiozzz | :D |
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| 23:02.28 | Gnea | your mirror must be out of sync |
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| 23:03.16 | cees | sorry for off topic someone help me with geometry of hard drive quantum 30Gb? |
| 23:03.42 | pipeline | cees: Don't worry about it. |
| 23:03.49 | pipeline | cees: Debian's installer will figure it out. |
| 23:04.13 | pipeline | cees: As long as your boot partition is near th ebeginning of the drive, it doesn't matter if your BIOS is clueless about the geometry. |
| 23:04.34 | worthy | color test |
| 23:04.41 | brosiozzz | i've add ftp.at.debian.org |
| 23:04.50 | worthy | is this white or black to you guys? |
| 23:05.01 | azeem | worthy: please |
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| 23:05.21 | worthy | im trying to set up the color of this kopet im trying out |
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| 23:05.34 | worthy | i don't know what color text you guys see from me |
| 23:05.42 | Gnea | worthy: it's not going to change what we see on our end, only yours. |
| 23:05.45 | zulu42 | hey Gnea I changed ok my root |
| 23:05.47 | zulu42 | thx!! |
| 23:05.53 | Gnea | cool |
| 23:05.55 | worthy | tell me what you see Gnea? |
| 23:05.55 | Gnea | :) |
| 23:06.03 | zulu42 | but now I'm a bit paranoid!! I don't know how this happened... |
| 23:06.05 | azeem | worthy: you look like any other person |
| 23:06.07 | Gnea | worthy: if it was colored, you'd know it. |
| 23:06.14 | worthy | ok |
| 23:06.14 | DJ-Marcuzz | THX FOR ALL THE HELP GYS! |
| 23:06.15 | zulu42 | well check my /var/log/auth.log! |
| 23:06.47 | DJ-Marcuzz | im off to bed, the pc is copy'ng and you have made me an verry happy boy :D |
| 23:06.57 | vin` | worthy: in what color do you want to be seen? we'll try and imagine. |
| 23:06.57 | chugga | vnc client for debian? |
| 23:07.06 | worthy | white |
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| 23:07.24 | Gnea | !vnc |
| 23:07.24 | dpkg | [vnc] Virtual Network Computing (GUI remote-access), at http://www.realvnc.com, or http://www.tridiavnc.com, or ask me about x-not-vnc |
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| 23:07.37 | pipeline | chugga: tsclient |
| 23:07.43 | cheloo | need help with apt dependencies |
| 23:07.50 | Gnea | pipeline: no, that's windows terminal server |
| 23:07.53 | chugga | pipeline, ok |
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| 23:07.57 | cheloo | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 23:07.57 | cheloo | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:08.11 | cheloo | i run apt-get install postfix postfix-tls libsasl2 sasl2-bin libsasl2-modules ipopd-ssl uw-imapd-ssl |
| 23:08.13 | zulu42 | is there somewhere a file tellin when passwd change happened? |
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| 23:08.30 | cheloo | any ideea ? what should i do |
| 23:08.33 | Gnea | cheloo: choose postfix or postfix-tls, but not both |
| 23:09.00 | gloin | thanks spb |
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| 23:09.21 | pipeline | chugga: tsclient is pretty frontend to vnc viewer |
| 23:09.35 | pipeline | chugga: so you still need vnc's client installed, but it's a nice wizard instead of an ugly xlib thing :P |
| 23:09.49 | chugga | pipeline, thats gonna be a huge install .. lots of dependencies |
| 23:09.50 | chugga | bah1 |
| 23:09.55 | cheloo | Gnea aint true i can have them both installed |
| 23:10.08 | reind | When I run apt-get update I get the following error, this happens with all the repos i've set in sources.list. Any idea what's wrong? There are no public key available for the following key IDs:..." |
| 23:10.25 | azeem | reind: see /topic |
| 23:10.37 | [Elvis] | can anyone tell me if there's a tvprogram for debian which can autotune frequency's? |
| 23:10.40 | Gnea | cheloo: then why is there a conflict? |
| 23:10.50 | reind | thx azeem |
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| 23:11.06 | chugga | etch freaking sucks.. |
| 23:11.13 | chugga | im sick of packages not being available for it.. |
| 23:11.14 | Gnea | chugga: yes. |
| 23:11.19 | pipeline | chugga: vnc's client alone has hardly any dependencies, but pretty it is not. |
| 23:11.20 | Gnea | then don't use it |
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| 23:11.34 | chugga | Gnea, well i know that now, duh.. |
| 23:11.49 | cheloo | Gnea because i have deb http://www.backports.org/debian/ sarge-backports main enable in source.list |
| 23:11.51 | l3m | is there a way i can find out the exact model of the harddisk i have in my computer without opening it? |
| 23:11.52 | chugga | pipeline, the xtightvnc thing? i couldnt get it to work |
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| 23:12.11 | Gnea | that does it, i give up |
| 23:12.13 | pipeline | chugga: Yes, so bite the bullet and install tsclient. It's not my fault if you won't read the command line client's man page :| |
| 23:12.14 | chugga | l3m, look thru dmesg |
| 23:12.21 | Gnea | cheloo: sorry, you're on your own. |
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| 23:12.34 | Gnea | don't need this shit... |
| 23:12.35 | chugga | pipeline, whatever happened to default options........ |
| 23:12.46 | pipeline | chugga: You're an idiot. |
| 23:12.47 | cheloo | Gnea hell yeah problem solved :) |
| 23:12.55 | aimtrainer | hi! Would anyone know how to mute firefox? |
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| 23:13.11 | Gnea | cheloo: pardon? |
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| 23:13.16 | pipeline | aimtrainer: dpkg-reconfigure the package and tell it to use a sound wrapper for something that isn't installed. Alternatively, muck about in about:config |
| 23:14.22 | chugga | pipeline, are you talking about reading the manpage of xvncviewer? |
| 23:14.26 | pipeline | chugga: Yes. |
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| 23:14.50 | kspath | !moo |
| 23:14.50 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you are too; join us all! type apt-get moo. |
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| 23:15.16 | aimtrainer | pipeline root@1[aimtrainer]# dpkg-reconfigure firefox |
| 23:15.17 | aimtrainer | Please restart any running Firefoxes, or you will experience problems. |
| 23:15.21 | aimtrainer | I did so |
| 23:15.28 | aimtrainer | still tells me to |
| 23:15.35 | pipeline | aimtrainer: That was kind of a facetious answer :| |
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| 23:15.44 | gloin | so there's probably a faq somewhere, but I had two sarge boxes last night complain about logrotate errors |
| 23:15.47 | gloin | what's up? |
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| 23:16.01 | cheloo | Gnea fuck off |
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| 23:16.12 | gloin | cheloo: is gnea a spambot? |
| 23:16.27 | aimtrainer | oh pipeline ._. |
| 23:16.29 | aimtrainer | <-- nub |
| 23:16.39 | azeem | cheloo: please watch your language |
| 23:16.45 | gloin | anyhow |
| 23:16.54 | cheloo | Gnea sorry didnt mean it |
| 23:17.02 | cheloo | azeem sorry |
| 23:17.12 | azeem | what did you mean then? |
| 23:17.18 | edison | Help what is the best command line p2p for linux ? I use emule in windows and i want to use the same protocol with linux command line |
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| 23:17.45 | gloin | I got several errors from logrotate last night on both the sarge boxes I run, and they're the same error, even though the boxes are very different animals. If anyone knows or wants to know this error, ping me here and meet me in #flood and I'll paste it in there. |
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| 23:17.49 | gloin | \/join #flood |
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| 23:18.40 | rue_mohr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:18.41 | rue_mohr | help |
| 23:19.07 | pipeline | aimtrainer: I mean, it should work, but that is NOT the best way to do it :P |
| 23:19.30 | pipeline | edison: amuled is a daemon that will connect to the edonkey network and run in the background. I think you may still need a web browser or GUI client to start new downloads or what-have-you, though. |
| 23:19.49 | pipeline | rue_mohr: |
| 23:19.54 | rue_mohr | yes? |
| 23:19.59 | pipeline | gloin: use a web pastebin |
| 23:20.04 | gloin | pipeline: good idea |
| 23:20.13 | pipeline | gloin: e.g. pastebin.ca |
| 23:20.22 | pipeline | rue_mohr: sorry, mis-type |
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| 23:20.25 | gloin | way ahead of you =] |
| 23:20.30 | rue_mohr | :( |
| 23:20.38 | rue_mohr | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.46 | rue_mohr | is pppd for debian compiled with mschap? |
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| 23:21.05 | gloin | http://pastebin.com/507410 <-- error message I got from cron today |
| 23:21.13 | gloin | from two sarge boxes (both x86) |
| 23:21.14 | LinuxNIT | how do i manually make a service start on boot in debian? |
| 23:21.19 | streuner | rue_mohr: get sources and check out debian/rules for yourself? |
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| 23:21.52 | rue_mohr | its amazing how many people have enountered this problem, nobody posts the answer |
| 23:21.52 | streuner | LinuxNIT: /msg dpkg rc.local |
| 23:22.06 | LinuxNIT | k thanks |
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| 23:22.30 | iluvatar` | hi guys |
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| 23:24.10 | rue_mohr | streuner so everyone should have to compile everything theirself? its a common problem, the odds are someone here knows the answer |
| 23:24.22 | buu | Anyone got an idea what would cause "ata7 is slow to respond, please be patient" "ata7 has failed to respond" |
| 23:24.37 | rue_mohr | especially is there was a oddity as large as it not being put inteh precompiled package |
| 23:25.01 | streuner | rue_mohr: nobody said this |
| 23:25.09 | iluvatar` | I have some problems with the x fonts. I want to use artwiz's fonts on fluxbox and I have installed the deb package. From xfontsel to xfd, the fonts are displayed. But when I search to load fluxbox theme with artwiz font enable, the fonts aren't load. What's the problem ? |
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| 23:25.12 | rue_mohr | streuner you implied it |
| 23:25.38 | streuner | rue_mohr: but on the other hand its prolly easy to compile it in case in wouldn't be in debian |
| 23:25.47 | streuner | no |
| 23:26.45 | edison | Help what is the best gnu command line p2p for linux ? |
| 23:27.19 | DaDave | cu all |
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| 23:27.55 | dabaR | edison: there is gift, and mutella that I know of. |
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| 23:28.27 | redguy | edison: and hydranode, www.hydranode.com |
| 23:28.30 | Osiqes | Hi |
| 23:28.45 | Osiqes | somebody know Why I have problems with dpgk and iso-codes ? |
| 23:28.56 | Osiqes | this is the error : files list file for package iso-codes is missing final line |
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| 23:29.01 | gloin | =[ |
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| 23:29.24 | streuner | Osiqes: /msg dpkg paster |
| 23:29.40 | streuner | and show us what you got |
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| 23:30.11 | jair_11 | ansong, I got it my good friend it works nicely |
| 23:30.33 | jair_11 | ansong, and I higly recommends you another mirror like the one from austria very good |
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| 23:31.54 | Osiqes | ok one moment |
| 23:31.58 | Osiqes | thanks streuner |
| 23:32.06 | buu | Gah, it used to work. |
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| 23:33.48 | raden | If i have all linux computers on a network is there something i can use besides samba for file and print sharing ? |
| 23:34.42 | ernst_ | raden: printers can be shared using lpd.... |
| 23:34.55 | ernst_ | raden: NFS is also a possibility... |
| 23:35.00 | raden | NFS ? |
| 23:35.13 | ernst_ | raden: Network File System... |
| 23:35.14 | raden | all i need todo is like map a drive for everyone in the company to share info on |
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| 23:35.30 | Osiqes | http://channels.debian.net/paste/1571 |
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| 23:35.31 | raden | and have printers accessable to everyone |
| 23:35.33 | Osiqes | this is my error |
| 23:35.44 | swatikiss | i managed to get grip to "rip" my cds but the files are blank... what might be going on ? |
| 23:35.47 | ernst_ | raden: for printing lpd or cups will word fine... |
| 23:35.56 | ernst_ | raden: word=work.... |
| 23:36.02 | raden | ernst, tried to get cups running but still playing with that |
| 23:36.20 | ernst_ | raden: k, nfs might be a solution for file sharing... |
| 23:36.34 | raden | kewl kewl |
| 23:36.42 | raden | i mean is samba something thats secure enough to run ? |
| 23:36.53 | Gnea | it is if you set it up right |
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| 23:37.16 | ernst_ | raden: samba is pretty secure if you configure it right... |
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| 23:37.54 | ernst_ | raden: also disable lanman pw's.... |
| 23:38.05 | raden | im waiting for 2 books on samba to come |
| 23:38.23 | raden | i found the offical samba 3 howto art amazon for .52 $ used and another samba book for $4 :) |
| 23:38.24 | Gnea | samba's easy, just install it and configure/test |
| 23:38.29 | raden | saved 80 on 2 books |
| 23:38.40 | raden | Gnea working on it ;) |
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| 23:38.53 | Gnea | raden: swat is your friend :) |
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| 23:39.06 | raden | how do i run swat ? |
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| 23:39.11 | Gnea | !swat |
| 23:39.11 | gloin | so nobody's seen this thing with their sarge boxes all saying the same error with logrotate all on the same night? |
| 23:39.11 | dpkg | from memory, swat is Special Weapons And Tactics or A Web based administrative tool for SAMBA or what dbn.net needs; right upside the head with a clue-by-four. a device for killing flies with, or apt-get install swat, enable it in /etc/inetd.conf if necessary, '/etc/init.d/inetd reload', then point your web browser to http://localhost:901/ |
| 23:39.42 | Gnea | don't have a sarge box right now |
| 23:39.45 | Osiqes | streuner |
| 23:40.36 | gloin | it's weird... so I'm thinking it must be something date-related since the boxes I have are all very much in different realms (and cities) - one of them was setup by someone other than me even |
| 23:40.54 | gloin | and yet they all said the same thing last night |
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| 23:41.15 | kspath | they said moo? |
| 23:41.20 | jair_11 | ansong, so after I install this package I will not be able to run apt-get dist-upgrade right? |
| 23:41.34 | jair_11 | ansong, it is working already pretty good so far |
| 23:41.57 | streuner | Osiqes: what version of debian are you running? |
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| 23:42.04 | jair_11 | ansong, but I am concern about it when the OO 2.0 become available for the 3.1 sarge? |
| 23:42.08 | gloin | kspath: they said "go here: http://pastebin.com/507410 " |
| 23:42.32 | kspath | gloin: they can see the future? |
| 23:42.37 | gloin | heh |
| 23:42.56 | raden | gnea thanks |
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| 23:43.00 | kspath | gloin: they can see the future recursively? |
| 23:43.10 | gloin | kspath: sure |
| 23:43.16 | gloin | you asked if they said moo |
| 23:43.20 | Osiqes | sarge |
| 23:43.23 | Osiqes | base install |
| 23:43.23 | gloin | I wasn't there to hear it |
| 23:43.43 | gloin | but they told me that in email messages |
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| 23:44.22 | shadowarts | how do i get my /etc/init.d/apache back? |
| 23:44.26 | shadowarts | its gone |
| 23:44.30 | shadowarts | apache server is installed |
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| 23:44.42 | shadowarts | apt-get --reinstall install apache didnt help |
| 23:44.55 | streuner | Osiqes: What does 'dpkg -l libc6 | tail -1 && apt-cache policy libc6 | grep 500' say? |
| 23:45.04 | keyhack | Is there a way to go from testing to unstable? |
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| 23:45.19 | streuner | keyhack: /msg dpkg sid faq |
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| 23:45.39 | gloin | reduce noise |
| 23:45.42 | kspath | gloin: I normally have my own log rotation script(s) |
| 23:45.44 | Supaplex | shadowarts: changes to init.d scripts are considered configuration. backup your configs to a safe place, purge the package, and then reinstall. |
| 23:45.45 | Osiqes | ii libc6 2.3.2.ds1-22 GNU .......... |
| 23:45.52 | Osiqes | 500 ftp:// ..... |
| 23:45.57 | streuner | we need the whole output |
| 23:46.14 | Supaplex | !paste |
| 23:46.14 | kspath | gloin: that is not a bad idea I get kind of sick of the various audio/video questions |
| 23:46.14 | dpkg | Do not paste into the channel. Use #flood or visit http://channels.debian.net/paste/ or try "/msg paster help". |
| 23:46.32 | Osiqes | this is the output |
| 23:46.43 | Supaplex | Osiqes: see what dpkg said? |
| 23:46.45 | shadowarts | Supaplex: ok |
| 23:46.45 | Osiqes | only GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone |
| 23:46.48 | Osiqes | yes |
| 23:46.50 | Osiqes | this |
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| 23:47.55 | Osiqes | Supaplex |
| 23:48.01 | Osiqes | yes but I can't paste |
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| 23:48.22 | Osiqes | this is the complete error |
| 23:49.13 | kspath | gloin: only issue I can see with such a channel is how many people will be asking for assistance in doing their jobs when they should already know the stuffs and asking about how to config apache and postfix and qmail and various |
| 23:49.24 | streuner | Osiques: check out BTS (/msg dpkg bts) |
| 23:49.27 | gloin | heh |
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| 23:49.43 | gloin | kspath: my experience with #debian is that people have never been afraid to RTFM someone |
| 23:49.50 | gloin | and frequently do |
| 23:49.51 | streuner | Osiques: your sources.list is fucked up |
| 23:50.04 | Osiqes | ok |
| 23:50.07 | Osiqes | remove it ? |
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| 23:50.09 | streuner | Osiques: you want install gzip out of etch or sid and have sarge libc6 installed... |
| 23:50.19 | Supaplex | !apt-setup |
| 23:50.20 | dpkg | it has been said that apt-setup is a means of adding deb/deb-src lines to your /etc/apt/sources.list so that you can install packages from the internet. To install from a cd-rom ask me about 'apt-cdrom'. |
| 23:50.31 | Jazbo | Hey folks. So I installed Sarge which installed kpackage but I want Synaptic package manager. I did "apt-get install synaptic" and it seemed to work but when I run "synaptic" I get "(synaptic:1750): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:". Any ideas? |
| 23:50.35 | gloin | !ubuntu |
| 23:50.35 | dpkg | i heard ubuntu is not Debian. See http://www.ubuntulinux.org. IRC channel is #ubuntu (not here!) http://interviews.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=144934&cid=12136879 Ask me about <Based on Debian>, or Even Mark Shuttleworth says this is not Debian. |
| 23:50.41 | kspath | gloin: I do not know. I have not used the stock logrotate with debian enough to answer you but are you sure something odd wasnt happening with some kind of updates? |
| 23:50.43 | eleftherios | there is some sort of system administration application that lets you automate tasks and it even has its own scripting language, can anyone recall the name please? (it escapes me...) |
| 23:50.54 | chealer_ | Jazbo: are you trying to start it in a root shell? |
| 23:50.57 | gloin | kspath: I tried update/upgrade, and they worked fine |
| 23:51.06 | Gnea | Jazbo: synaptic is to be run in X |
| 23:51.07 | Jazbo | chealer_: yes |
| 23:51.09 | gloin | my testing box said "hello, gpg key!" but I took care of that |
| 23:51.15 | kspath | gloin: you do not have them set up in cronjobs do you? |
| 23:51.20 | chealer_ | Jazbo: $ kdesu synaptic |
| 23:51.23 | Jazbo | Gnea: I'm running kde |
| 23:51.37 | Gnea | Jazbo: what chealer_ said |
| 23:51.45 | gloin | kspath: yes |
| 23:51.54 | gloin | I do have them setup in crons |
| 23:52.09 | kspath | gloin: umm if your system was updating when logrotate was running? |
| 23:52.17 | gloin | hmm |
| 23:52.24 | Supaplex | gloin: I have too many logfiles on just one server to do that. they grow to fast heh |
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| 23:52.33 | gloin | kspath: interesting. I'll check logs. |
| 23:52.36 | kspath | gloin: you can easily script a mass update only issue is if routing is funky from your location |
| 23:52.39 | Osiqes | streuner |
| 23:52.42 | Osiqes | I remove it and |
| 23:52.45 | Osiqes | apt-setup |
| 23:52.50 | Osiqes | but the same error when is finish |
| 23:53.03 | streuner | Osiqes: sure |
| 23:53.15 | kspath | gloin: mass update via scripts allows for a single report of all machines updated and progress/status |
| 23:53.19 | streuner | Osiqes: the deb is still in cache, so it uses the deb there.... |
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| 23:53.49 | kspath | gloin: what if something were to funk all your machines automajikally? |
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| 23:53.59 | Jazbo | Gnea and chealer_: that worked. Tnx |
| 23:54.04 | DaDave | i have a problem with my X-Windows: When i switch from x to console i get very weird screens (nothing usefull) and i only get a usefull screen back when i switch back to the x-server. What can i do? |
| 23:54.21 | streuner | Osiqes: debian system use always the latest deb avaiable, and the wrong deb is in cache (still) |
| 23:54.23 | kspath | gloin: best to update 1 or 2 local machines by hand then if all looks good run mass update and record results with time/date stamps |
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| 23:54.49 | streuner | Osiqes: get rid of it |
| 23:54.57 | kspath | gloin: but I am just an out of work sysadmin with no clue so what do I know |
| 23:55.22 | gloin | heh |
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| 23:56.30 | Tortel | Is there a package to trace IPs? |
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| 23:56.43 | streuner | traceroute? |
| 23:56.43 | gloin | wasn't an update |
| 23:56.48 | yel | hello everyone |
| 23:56.53 | Supaplex | Tortel: depends on the context |
| 23:56.57 | gloin | olleh ley |
| 23:56.58 | kspath | gloin: I am confused now as well. I thought you answered that you did apt-get update and upgrade via cron jobs |
| 23:57.03 | gloin | no |
| 23:57.20 | gloin | kspath: I thought you were asking about logrotate. Yes, that is cronned. Not updates. |
| 23:57.31 | yel | i'am having a problem with mysql which is not starting anymore after a system update using aptitude |
| 23:57.45 | Supaplex | kspath: he said quite the oppsite. update a few by hand, and if all goes well, then conitinue |
| 23:58.02 | vilemaxim | yel, any error messages in the logs? |
| 23:58.07 | pshaggy | I'm trying to use lvm on a new hd but I keep getting "no program 'lvm' found for your current version of LVM". I have already ran an "apt-get install lvm2". Is there something pretty simple I'm overlooking here? Why can' I use lvm/pvcreate/etc ? |
| 23:58.18 | yel | vilemaxim, ill past them online |
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| 23:58.31 | dj-death | hi all |
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| 23:58.59 | kspath | Tortel: did you want to define "trace IPs" did you mean traceroute or something else? |
| 23:59.04 | dj-death | Does someone know why my old raid5 config does not work anymore with mdadm ? |
| 23:59.12 | dj-death | I used raidtools2 |
| 23:59.18 | yel | vilemaxim, here is the logs : http://pastebin.com/507448 |
| 23:59.23 | vilemaxim | yel, k |
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| 23:59.50 | Osiqes | 0streuner |
| 23:59.56 | Osiqes | I delete de all packages in archivies |
